IRC log for #asterisk on 20120127

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00:58.58alexocHello! Anybody already use asterisk in vmware, with about 500 simultaneous calls?
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01:00.52leifmadsenalexoc: 500 simultaneous calls for a single machine is quite a bit already
01:04.48alexocHow many simultaneous calls are supported in an asterisk in vmware (Assuming a hardware xeon quadcore 2.4GHz, 16GB Mem and SAS hard drives)? There are many success stories asterisk virtualized?
01:09.28leifmadsenalexoc: well that's a bit of a loaded question due to what asterisk is doing. Is there transcoding? Is there call recording? What is the disk i/o? etc....
01:10.36leifmadsenalexoc: the only way to really know is it actually test it and see if you can really push that many calls through in your scenario with automated scripts and such (SIPp is a good tool for that kind of thing)
01:12.28alexocleifmadsen: SIPp thanks a lot, I will test and report the results for you! :)
01:12.37leifmadsenalexoc: ok thanks :)
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01:31.08leifmadsenQwell: ping?
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01:54.35FiReSTaRThey guys where can i specify for a user not to auth by extension number, but by a unique username?
01:55.35leifmadsenFiReSTaRT: please elaborate
01:57.12FiReSTaRTputs on a shameful face.. i'm trying to create extensions in freepbx (yeah yeah i know...) and i can't seem to figure out how to forbid auth by extension # as that's a security vulnerability
01:58.00FiReSTaRTso i wanna try to create extensions where you can only auth by a username such as gigasethome, unclealex, motherinlaw etc etc etc
01:59.17FiReSTaRTis considering completely doing away with that web-based crap and doing the administration the tried tested and true way - by editing config files :P
02:09.26leifmadsenFiReSTaRT: sorry, might have to try #freepbx, I don't know how to do things with that GUI system, just asterisk config files
02:09.39FiReSTaRTleifmadsen: that's what i'm looking for
02:09.47FiReSTaRTi gave up on trying to set it up in the gui
02:09.56FiReSTaRTso i wanna set one up by editing the config files instead
02:12.00leifmadsenFiReSTaRT: well the way authentication is done for non-ip matching is via type=user
02:12.05leifmadsenin sip.conf
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02:14.30FiReSTaRTleifmadsen: thanks.. i see it.. even dug up some docs on it.. time to do a bit of reading :)
02:14.39leifmadsen~book
02:14.39infobotAsterisk: The Definitive Guide, 3rd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51734-3) available at http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596517342 - Asterisk: The Definitive Guide is released under a Creative Commons License (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/us/) and is available for reading online at http://www.asteriskdocs.org/ or see ~buybook
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02:19.54FiReSTaRTleifmadsen: read through it a while back but a lot of it wasn't current when i tried to get a box up and running so i gave up after a while
02:20.14leifmadsenFiReSTaRT: ya I updated asteriskdocs.org fairly recently to match the new book
02:20.21leifmadsenit was 1.4 based before that
02:21.03leifmadsenaha
02:23.58FiReSTaRTeven though that's not the ideal solution, i'm willing to hack it just to move on.. still it would be nice if i could figure it out from the web interface.. not for my sake, but if i deploy it in a setting staffed by non-technical people where i just occasionally ssh in to run updates, i'd like for them to still be able to create extensions that won't be easily hackable
02:25.48leifmadsenFiReSTaRT: well once you figure it out on the vanilla install, then you might know better what you're looking for and can determine if freepbx can actaully generate it how you need
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02:29.17FiReSTaRTleifmadsen: good point.. i might just do it from scratch.. haven't even touched the sip stuff other than to quickly play with it.. so far i've mostly been doing some security tweaks like disabling root ssh, altF9, set alwaysauthreject=yes, etc etc etc
02:29.40FiReSTaRTbasically wanted to get the security down pat before playing with the fun stuff
02:29.52FiReSTaRTand pretty much all of that was through the cli anyway lol
02:30.03leifmadsenFiReSTaRT: take your existing sip.conf per freepbx and load it into your vanilla, and then tweak from there
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04:05.13FiReSTaRTleifmadsen: they don't seem to offer that feature.. now i'm considering whether alwaysauthreject=yes (with strong passwds) is enough of a protection or to just forget about it and work with vanilla as you suggested
04:06.08FiReSTaRTand btw i just realized who you were.. thought your nick sounded familiar from another channel here lol
04:37.36FiReSTaRTin any case all the help is much appreciated
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04:57.42alucardx-mattHi everyone
04:58.58alucardx-mattI have a question that I cannot find a good answer to
04:59.55alucardx-mattIs it okay to ask it here?
05:00.09[TK]D-FenderDepends what it is you are intending to ask, so just ask it
05:02.26alucardx-mattI need to replace an old voiceworks voicemail system that is hooked up to a comdial dxp. I need to know what signals the asterisk box needs to recognize on an FXO port to answer calls that are transferred to it
05:02.45alucardx-mattI need to make sure I can work this before I order a telephony card
05:05.01alucardx-mattand, if I sound ignorant I don't mean to and do apologize
05:11.38[TK]D-Fenderalucardx-matt: Where are you located?  And clarify "transferred to it".  And FXO typically "just rings"  Are you referring to some unual circuit or state?
05:14.29alucardx-mattwhere am I located? like country or what?
05:14.54[TK]D-Fenderyes
05:15.06alucardx-mattunited states
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05:15.32alucardx-mattso the comdial is currently interfacing to the voiceworks using a dxist board
05:15.48alucardx-mattthe dxist is analog, I know that much
05:16.24alucardx-mattso calls get transferred to one of the four voicemail extensions programmed into the comdial system.
05:17.24alucardx-mattthe voiceworks is picking up the call on one of those lines, but how does it know to pick up the line? what signals the call? I connected an analog phone to it an could hear voice both ways but the phone never rang
05:17.50[TK]D-FenderSo you're looking to use * as a Vm system for another PBX that has signalling to take calls in and also bounce them out freeing up the channel?
05:20.04alucardx-mattyes, I am looking to use * as a VM system on a comdial DXP PBX. I don't know the terminology well enough to say it would free up the channel, but it would allow outside callers to leave voicemail messages on *
05:20.14alucardx-mattI hope I'm explaining what I'm trying to do well enough
05:21.40[TK]D-Fenderalucardx-matt: Well the call coming in is probably just your typical dumb analog FXO which means it'd ring like normal and some interface would ahve to answer it.
05:21.58[TK]D-FenderNow what kind of hardware you pick is up to you as long as itll cooperate with *
05:22.30alucardx-mattyou mean as far as the telephony card?
05:23.13[TK]D-Fenderyes
05:23.39[TK]D-FenderCould be a card.  Could be soe other sort of gatway device, etc
05:23.48alucardx-mattdo you think there will be a problem with the telephony card interfacing to the ports on the DXIST voice card in the PBX?
05:24.15alucardx-mattI mean, what signal comes through there that will tell the FXO port that a call is coming in?
05:24.25alucardx-mattthat's the part I don't fully understand and want to be clear about
05:25.23[TK]D-FenderI think you'd better find out just what that card of theirs does.
05:25.43[TK]D-FenderPlug a boring phone into it.  Does it ring like noral?
05:25.45[TK]D-Fendernoral*
05:25.56[TK]D-FenderCan you just pick up?  Does it work?
05:26.08[TK]D-FenderGo figure all this out before juping to any other conclusion
05:26.11alucardx-mattno, it doesn't ring. But, if you pick it up when a call comes through that port you get voice communication
05:26.26alucardx-mattI'm not sure how to figure this out
05:26.48[TK]D-FenderSo that eans it does some other electrical signalling to indicate the call.  this is in "good luck" territory.
05:26.56[TK]D-FenderTime for some serious reading...
05:27.08alucardx-mattwhat should I read?
05:27.27[TK]D-FenderInformation on that card and it's signalling...
05:27.51alucardx-mattyeah
05:27.57alucardx-mattI was afraid you'd say that
05:28.13alucardx-mattI'm having one hell of a time finding good material that is clear and concise about how this card functions
05:28.18[TK]D-Fenderalucardx-matt: How big is this PBX of yours?
05:28.18alucardx-mattit's old and proprietary
05:28.31alucardx-mattjust under 30 lines
05:28.36[TK]D-Fender30 analog?
05:28.37alucardx-mattand it will be replaced, just not yet
05:28.51alucardx-mattI think it's a proprietary signaling to each terminal
05:29.20[TK]D-FenderHow many phones?  What kind of wiring?  Single pair digital set?  4 pair RJ45?  What kind of lines?  How many sets?
05:29.21alucardx-mattonly the four vm ports are straight analog and the others, well they go to comdial impact phones
05:30.15alucardx-mattsingle pair and I"m not sure if it's digital or not
05:30.30alucardx-mattI'd say about 27 lines and they are mostly going through cat 5
05:30.57alucardx-mattmy building to building wiring is sketchy at best which puts about 7 phones in a bad situation for digital
05:31.19[TK]D-FenderLittle confused about "27 lines".  Can you clarify Lines as TELCO line (and what signalling), and how any PHONE and what the wiring is like...
05:31.28alucardx-mattoh, sorry
05:31.34[TK]D-Fendermany*
05:32.14alucardx-mattI have six analog lines from the telco, they go into the PBX. I have about 27 phones from the PBX and I have four lines directly to the current (and dying) voicemail system
05:33.15[TK]D-FenderOk, 27 phones effectively have CAT5 from your telco room to the station?
05:34.40alucardx-mattyes
05:34.47alucardx-mattwell, about 21 of those phones do
05:34.57alucardx-mattthe others are in another building with wiring challenges
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05:37.28alucardx-mattmy ultimate plan is to overhaul the whole system with * but for now I just need functioning voicemail
05:37.50[TK]D-Fenderalucardx-matt: Ok, well you have a proble and an opportunity.  Proble is yuo have an issue for a V you have to replace, but any oney spent on that approach is wasted keeping that old crap alive and might not be reusable.  Also I expect it won't work as well as their intended solutions.
05:38.03dijibhows everybody doing?
05:38.21[TK]D-Fenderalucardx-matt: However your setup is far from "large" and you seemed to have it on the block to be replaced.  This is a good reason not to fuck around with it
05:38.42[TK]D-Fenderalucardx-matt: These aren't the nicest ters, but certainly motivated ones
05:38.54[TK]D-Fenderterms*
05:39.28dijibif you have a server asterisk is an easy build
05:39.35dijibi could have mine running in 45min.
05:39.50dijibalucard * all night long.
05:40.06alucardx-mattI agree
05:40.49alucardx-mattwell, I may have to accelerate plan for replacing the whole PBX system with * if I want to have VM then I guess
05:41.09dijibr asterisk is an easy build
05:41.15dijibhow many users?
05:41.30alucardx-mattabout 21 within reach of cat5, that's the easy part
05:41.31[TK]D-Fenderalucardx-matt: You wanted to anyway... now you have a need for spending, better not to waste it on a dead-end patch
05:41.36dijibdo you have an ip system currently?
05:41.43alucardx-mattno
05:41.50dijibah i see
05:42.00dijibusers?
05:42.06dijibextensions? devices? #?
05:43.21alucardx-mattabout 27 users, give er take. I have the bulk of them within reach of cat5 to the com closet. The others are in another building across some nasty copper
05:43.45dijibconduit? overhead?
05:43.46[TK]D-Fenderalucardx-matt: Where you have cat 5 forcast this : $80/phone, $350 phone switch, $800 tops worth of PSTN line interface card
05:44.15dijibyou will need an intermediary qos/bitshaping going on. be warned
05:44.18alucardx-mattconduit. One end is accessible the other is buried in a wall
05:44.31dijibhow many meters feet?
05:44.40alucardx-mattI was thinking of seperating this from my current data network
05:44.51dijibsure.
05:45.01alucardx-mattit's a short distance (directly) but when I test the copper it reports 624 feet
05:45.23alucardx-mattand getting an ethernet link is almost impossible
05:45.34alucardx-mattI have one device that will link up on the far end, an old 3com switch
05:45.58dijibwireless hop. n? a?
05:46.09WIMPylong reach ethernet or just sdsl.
05:46.28alucardx-mattI will be going wireless
05:46.49alucardx-matteasiest solution  I think and I have experience (extensive, including tower) setting up wireless
05:46.50dijibyou better test the spectrums before investing
05:46.53WIMPyUsually not a good idea for realtime applications.
05:47.01dijibok then
05:48.00alucardx-mattand...being point to point, probably on 5.7Ghz in wyoming (sparsely populated) it should be good
05:48.05alucardx-mattI'll test though
05:48.15dijibgotcha
05:48.44dijibwhere you buiding * on an appliance, 1u? VM?
05:48.59alucardx-mattlu?
05:49.04dijib1u
05:49.05dijib2u
05:49.05dijib3u
05:49.06dijib4u
05:49.16alucardx-mattoh, that was a 1
05:49.20dijibthe chassis size and mounting standards
05:49.29dijibcurrent server?
05:49.32dijibor extra box?
05:49.35alucardx-mattI was leaning toward a rackmount with proper power supply and everything
05:49.52dijibbatteries.
05:50.02alucardx-mattmaybe an extra box. I have a 64-bit amd box lying around but there would be no redundancy there
05:50.03[TK]D-Fenderalucardx-matt: My watch could just about handle your PBX needs.... and it's ANALOG.
05:50.14alucardx-mattlol
05:50.27dijibyou but for the time being if you wanted to get something up you could put one together pretty quick
05:50.48dijibwhats the bandwidth needed for 27 concurrent calls. or how do you guys do that math #asterisk?
05:50.49alucardx-mattyeah, that is true and then my costs would be phones and upgrading infrastructure in to the other building
05:51.12dijibwhats your  budget?
05:51.22alucardx-mattI would probably have no more than 10 concurrent calls, and that's really going to be a rare high
05:51.35[TK]D-Fenderdijib: I'd lke to know where you campe up with "27" in the first place
05:51.40dijibso like 200kb up and down?
05:52.00dijibi thought someone said it previously no?
05:52.03alucardx-mattyeah
05:52.09[TK]D-FenderNo.
05:52.09dijibef iirc memes also
05:52.12alucardx-mattI said 27 but I meant phones, total
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05:52.37dijibok 27 extensions. what is cool with * is wireless extensions.
05:52.43[TK]D-FenderAnd those phones are local to the building and at worst a few across some better than boring wifi bridge.
05:52.43dijibi like that ability
05:52.46[TK]D-FenderNOT an issue
05:53.01dijibwell you could always buy a set of ATA's
05:53.07dijibif you want to keep budget low
05:53.08[TK]D-FenderAnd that majority of WifI phones are junk
05:53.11[TK]D-FenderAnd pricey
05:53.29dijibwait you running digium cards?
05:53.35[TK]D-Fenderalucardx-matt: Careful, he's about to start selling fridges to eskimos....
05:53.37dijiban ipod is a wireless voip client to me
05:53.40dijibgood enough
05:54.00dijibsnakeoils actually, are you interested
05:54.13alucardx-mattlol
05:54.38[TK]D-Fenderdijib: Ok, you've done it.... you have just gone full-retard.  BACK TO YOUR CORNER! :)
05:54.51dijibdude *=/VideoConferencing, my brain.
05:55.09dijibwhy is this [TK]D-Fender i havent been here in a while
05:55.43dijibso k lets see some schematics, bring up a whiteboard.
05:55.47dijibwhat devices where?
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05:56.02alucardx-mattwell, I will be going asterisk pbx that's no question
05:56.21dijibwhat the budget?
05:56.24dijibs
05:56.46alucardx-mattwell, that's not specific. I'm simply working to beat a quote by a company selling proprietary solutions
05:56.56alucardx-mattI think the low quote was $14,000
05:57.46dijibhttp://www.digium.com/en/products/analog/24-port/
05:57.53dijibfor legacy conversion
05:58.05dijibhttp://www.digium.com/en/products/digital/quad-span/
05:58.22dijibfor up to date tech, am i right?
05:58.43alucardx-mattbut I don't know if the phones, which are comdial impacts can communicate
05:58.50WIMPyWhat makes you think he's got standard phones now?
05:58.57[TK]D-Fenderalucardx-matt: Call up your local telco's See how much they can offer you a PRI for (either full 23 or partial to the nuber of channels you find cost effective and sufficint to your needs)
05:59.19alucardx-mattPRI?
05:59.27WIMPyAnd what makes you think you need a quad PRI for 10 calls?
05:59.48dijibfuture growth
05:59.57WIMPyErr, no. It was 6 lines, wasn;t it?
05:59.59[TK]D-Fenderalucardx-matt: From there you'll have an anssfer for what kind of link to plan for.  Then confirm your wiring.  That will help pin down where you can directly place SIP phones as-is.  Then consider in-line phones whre you have PC's but no suitable phone system dedicated jacks
06:00.32alucardx-mattso here was my plan, tell me what you think (the long term plan that is)
06:00.36[TK]D-FenderWIMPy: see "full-retard" :)
06:00.44WIMPyyes
06:01.04WIMPyWell for the rest of the world that would be a quad BRI card.
06:01.05[TK]D-FenderMORE FRIDGES!!!
06:01.08alucardx-mattI was going to put a patch panel in the comm closet, I have 66 blocks now. I am going to wire up all 4 pair on each CAT5 to the patch panel
06:01.09[TK]D-FenderMORE COWBELL!
06:01.10alucardx-mattfrom there...
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06:01.36alucardx-mattI was going to connect a switch with POE capabilities so I can just plug in some SIP phones for each extension
06:01.47alucardx-mattthis is for the easy rooms with good wiring
06:02.21alucardx-mattin the other building I was going to go with just a regular switch and power each phone at each location
06:02.23[TK]D-Fenderalucardx-matt: that is the ideal.  Polycom IP 321 is the best quality entry-level phone @ 80$~ each where you have a dedicated jack to a phone.
06:02.39[TK]D-Fenderalucardx-matt: Ok, You seem to have a grasp on this then.
06:02.40alucardx-mattI'll write that down
06:02.44dijibyeah but thats a cost there, the phones.
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06:02.51dijibwhy not slowely transition?
06:02.58[TK]D-FenderJust take the VM as a serious motivating push to brace management for your assessment.
06:03.43[TK]D-Fenderdijib: because he isn't just transitioning "just because"  there is a failure he has to deal with
06:03.58alucardx-mattright
06:04.03alucardx-mattthe VM component failed
06:04.07[TK]D-Fenderdijib: And that helps validate going further
06:04.25dijibwhat flying spegetti noodle cut all the lines? the infrastructure is still intact
06:04.35dijibthe hardware phones have already been purchased
06:04.45alucardx-mattwell, they haven't
06:04.55[TK]D-FenderWhich was on the table for a little later.  Better to move it up now and not wait for the next piece of legacy gear to break and be discovered as painful or impossible to replace
06:04.56alucardx-mattour hardware phones are old comdial impact
06:05.17alucardx-mattwell, I was thinking of doing the major overhaul this summer, but hoping for voicemail now
06:05.22dijibphone lines last a while
06:05.31alucardx-mattI just need to make this wretched comdial talk to an FXO
06:05.59[TK]D-Fenderalucardx-matt: Yeah, most proprietary system have odd signalling that standard commodity gear just won't do.  This is how they own you in the end.
06:06.20dijibi would test that before defeat
06:06.24[TK]D-Fenderalucardx-matt: it''s not "just" FXO".  it's FXO + "just enough *special* to wreck your day"
06:06.31alucardx-mattyeah
06:06.45alucardx-mattin the manual for this gear it says these are industry standard telephone ports
06:06.54alucardx-mattI don't know if that's a stretch or not
06:07.08[TK]D-Fenderthe port yes... the "special sauce" however is something else
06:07.12dijibits a comdial system?
06:07.21WIMPyJust sike sip. That's also not just sip but sip plus various extensions to give you some headaches.
06:07.26WIMPySome things never change.
06:07.27[TK]D-FenderMaybe it's wink-start or similar
06:07.48[TK]D-FenderYou could experiment a bit but you risk buying euipment that will sit in a bin when you finally upgrade.
06:08.34alucardx-mattwell, for just $600 to get the telephony card, and I may well use it in another location later, but if it won't work now then I won't buy it
06:08.41alucardx-mattI don't like the comdial special sauce
06:08.42dijibit is rj11
06:08.43alucardx-mattdamn them
06:09.07alucardx-mattlet me send you this pdf about the comdial and see what you think
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06:10.24dijibhere you go mr president, http://www.adamtelco.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/g/x/gxv3175.jpg
06:11.52alucardx-mattis it offering you a download?
06:13.46alucardx-mattnow, the promising thing about the ports on this comdial is that I plugged in a plain analog phone and could hear voice over it
06:14.00alucardx-mattit wouldn't ring though which is why I question this whole vm thing
06:14.28dijibhave you tried sending dtfm through it? dialing out?
06:14.45dijibring is a little concerning
06:14.46alucardx-mattno go
06:14.50dijibno go
06:14.52dijibuh oh
06:15.12dijibim smelling a proprietary rat
06:15.16dijibdirty rat
06:15.29dijibwhat you guys saying? [TK]D-Fender WIMPy
06:15.41WIMPyWhat else?
06:16.20alucardx-matthere's a quote from the comdial manual:
06:16.36alucardx-matt"You can choose the DTMF digits that the DXP Plus sends to a voice mail system. A voice mail
06:16.36alucardx-mattsystem uses these DTMF digits to determine system and station status so that it can properly process a call."
06:17.07WIMPyDoesn't sound too bad.
06:17.25dijibDXP Plus is the phone?
06:17.27alucardx-mattdo you think the original installer of this dirty system might now how this was configured and be able to help out? Further, can * be flexible with it?
06:17.32alucardx-mattDXP
06:17.37[TK]D-Fenderalucardx-matt: Almost sounds like it's expecing an "always conencted" state where DTMF signals "on" and "off"
06:17.53dijibno i doubt that fully, im sure its on default settings
06:18.13alucardx-mattso can * be flexible here do you think?
06:18.18WIMPyOr it expects an FXS?
06:18.26alucardx-mattthat crossed my mind
06:18.36alucardx-mattwould a handset work to the port for voice though?
06:18.53WIMPyYes, but only for voice.
06:19.03WIMPyNo dialling or ringing.
06:19.13alucardx-mattwell it's not getting dialing or ringing
06:19.20alucardx-mattso you think it expects fxs?
06:19.39WIMPyBut if you connect a phone to your VM thing, dialling may cause something to happen.
06:20.03alucardx-mattI can try that
06:21.17alucardx-mattso in theory I should be able to dial connected to the VM box if it is fxs?
06:21.42WIMPyYes.
06:22.03WIMPyBut you don't know what to dial, so it's a bit hit or miss.
06:22.24WIMPyYou could try to listen in while the two are connected and talking to each other.
06:22.37[TK]D-Fenderalucardx-matt: Mine was a guess... there may be more, and this is a tricky thing....
06:22.55alucardx-mattyou're telling me
06:23.09alucardx-mattI very much dislike proprietary things
06:23.32WIMPyWho doesn't?
06:23.45[TK]D-FenderThe souls of the bought :)
06:23.51WIMPyAlthoug I have to admit that they can do a very good job sometimes.
06:24.11alucardx-mattyeah, but it means little when it's controlled by someone else
06:25.53alucardx-mattwell, I'll give it my best shot. If I can't get it to work I'll have to accelerate plans for overhauling the whole system
06:28.04alucardx-matthow much can * log about incoming DTMF once I have this system plugged in?
06:28.14alucardx-mattwould I then be able to see what asterisk needs to respond to?
06:28.19alucardx-mattthen write my dialplan from that?
06:30.33[TK]D-Fenderalucardx-matt: Go read up on that cicuit spec.  I'm not sure if * has a way to keep it always up & listening
06:32.28alucardx-mattfinding good docs, that's the hard part
06:32.40alucardx-mattI've been doing nothing but trying to find good docs on that circuit
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06:34.38alucardx-mattlisten though, I really appreciate all of your help
06:35.29alucardx-mattI think I'll come back to this channel again sometime
06:35.58WIMPyYou can quit any time you like, but you can never leave.
06:36.14alucardx-mattnice
06:36.21alucardx-mattwait a minute though
06:36.42alucardx-mattso let me learn a bit about you guys. what are your professional backgrounds?
06:37.12WIMPyNerd
06:37.25alucardx-mattI am too!
06:37.26alucardx-mattlol
06:38.18WIMPyjust took the wrong way somewhere.
06:39.13alucardx-mattdo you work with phone systems professionally or something else?
06:39.24WIMPySometimes.
06:40.47alucardx-mattwell, I'm just a nerd too
06:41.02alucardx-mattmost recently into phone systems but I've had many other little projects as well
06:41.20alucardx-mattfinished a samba server not too long ago for work
06:41.23alucardx-mattthat was fun
06:41.45WIMPyAsterisk will take over your whole life.
06:42.12alucardx-mattwell, I find it to be really bad ass
06:42.25WIMPyIn all possible ways.
06:43.09alucardx-mattI'm a big fan of free software too
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06:46.08alucardx-mattwell guys, I think I'm going to go. Thanks again for all of your help and input
06:47.11[TK]D-Fendercheckout time, later all
06:47.48alucardx-mattlater
06:47.52alucardx-mattoh, he left
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07:06.12jmwpcI was hoping someone could help me with an X100p FXO card... I suspect an interrupt issue. I have changed pci slots, it's on its own IRQ, i have set smp_affinity so it is on a different  cpu core than the drive controllers, and tried changing LATENCY_TIMER. http://pastebin.com/Tjm4BtC7 --- I can't make or receive calls.
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07:17.45IsUpis that possible to use different external IP per peer?
07:18.38kaldemarIsUp: no
07:18.40IsUpa provider gaves us a fiberoptic link to their end. they assigned a public IP for us. its called "vpn voip" i think.
07:19.26kaldemarIsUp: external IP as in the setting when you are behind NAT. it is a general setting.
07:19.47IsUpkaldemar: yes i already have an external IP setting. but it dnesnt match on the provider
07:20.00IsUpkaldemar: because they want their IP in SIP packets
07:20.17IsUpkaldemar: so i cant change my external ip for them. i am connected to other providers/peers
07:21.36kaldemarthen you need to avoid setting the external ip in calls that go through a VPN to them. try to add the addrss space in a localnet option.
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09:29.42nunneIm getting : "__sip_xmit: sip_xmit of 0x1fb5be0 (len 835) to 192.168.100.254:5060 returned -1: Operation not permitted" when dialing a group on my embedded asterisk 1.4
09:30.15nunnethe group has 9 members. and it seems i get this error on 4-5 of the members. and this in return makes it impossible for them to answer
09:31.38nunnedoes anyone know what this means?? 9 members shouldnt be alot.. and the only think i can think of that is ALOT of the subscriptions (19 phones subscribing to each each of these members).. Could there be something there? and is it possible from the dialplan to disable notifyringing etc??
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09:32.56FlashDeluxehi! i got a question, whats the best way to reroute my outgoing callers over sipgate if all lines are busy?
09:35.45nunneFlashDeluxe: Using ${DIALSTATUS}
09:36.00nunneif it's busy just jump to another label and dial sipgate from there
09:36.27FlashDeluxenunne: ahh ok thank you :)
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10:10.16mechbangircI lost link of a free web service. You feed it email, ip address and time duration of test (from hours to weeks) and it would at the end of test send you detailed report. Any idea?
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10:18.18kaldemarmechbangirc: by all means, do tell what it tests.
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10:19.02mechbangirckaldemar: connection health for voip
10:19.35mechbangircI used it 2 years ago, now I have no idea where to find it
10:20.04mechbangircit would give detail reports with graphs, nice presentation
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11:06.41eduzimrsHi, anyone knows this issue when I perform an "Inconditional transfer" on xlite? "Span 1: Channel 0/2 got hangup request, cause 127" the call hangs up
11:14.09kaldemareduzimrs: that's not an issue by itself, only a hangup request with cause 127 which is an indication of end of an interworking call.
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11:35.05eduzimrskaldemar: ok but why its hanging up my call? I need call forwarding by the clientes like to an cel phone for example.
11:36.55eduzimrskaldemar: weird cause, when I set up to this number for example (08006340014) it works fine, but when its to a phone number it hangs up the call
11:37.11eduzimrs*cel phone
11:37.55kaldemareduzimrs: hanging up what call? you're not giving much of a description of the issue.
11:38.00eduzimrskaldemar: something about the number of digits dialed ?
11:38.30eduzimrsill show u
11:41.58eduzimrskaldemar: http://pastebin.com/b5KnWKU0
11:42.25eduzimrskaldemar: take a look at line 7
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11:43.45eduzimrsapp_dial.c: Not accepting call completion offers from call-forward recipient Local/88292571@internacional-1b5d;1
11:43.56kaldemarand? still not seeing an issue.
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11:44.19eduzimrskaldemar: im still learning about
11:44.50eduzimrskaldemar: I don't know whats that mean
11:47.09eduzimrskaldemar: something about call transfer in dahdi channel
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11:48.28kaldemareduzimrs: that has nothing to do with any DAHDI channel. it's just a notice about call control tracking and completely normal.
11:49.32eduzimrskaldemar: ok, but did u understando that the call does not work? saw the logs?
11:49.55eduzimrskaldemar: in the end of log the call hangs up
11:50.24eduzimrskaldemar: it works to other numbers
11:50.43eduzimrskaldemar: but to cell phones number doesnt
11:51.06kaldemarthere are no issues in what you showed me. and nothing that would even match your original description.
11:53.06eduzimrskaldemar: if u see the log you`ll realize that there is no Ring statement
11:53.31eduzimrskaldemar: there is just the dial
11:53.50eduzimrs"-- Local/88292571@internacional-1b5d;1 is making progress passing it to SIP/411-0000000b"
11:54.18eduzimrsand does not ring, It hangs up the call after a few seconds
11:56.48nunneis the number in the correct syntax?
11:57.13nunnehow does the dialplan for internacional look
11:57.22eduzimrssure its always worked before
11:58.04eduzimrssame => n,Dial(${TRUNKGVT}/${EXTEN},60,TwW)
11:58.13eduzimrsthat's the dial
11:58.20kaldemareduzimrs: enable sip debug for a call and you'll see what there is. those verbose prints are not the whole truth, not even close.
11:59.03eduzimrsok
11:59.05nunneand 88292571 is a valid number? you dont need to add 0, 00XX before it?
11:59.15kaldemarthen you might also enable debug for your DAHDI side of the call to see what actually happens, and pastebin a WHOLE call.
11:59.57eduzimrsnunne: no, its a valid exten
12:00.01eduzimrskaldemar ok
12:09.24eduzimrskaldemar: http://pastebin.com/ihpMsVcm
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12:24.09kaldemareduzimrs: and what is the issue? who calls who and who gets hung up?
12:25.10kaldemar411 calls 485 who has forwarded calls out of your box and 411 gets a hangup?
12:26.36kaldemarnext time paste what you see in CLI. easier to read without all the extra stamps.
12:29.20kaldemarall i see is an incoming DISCONNECT with cause 16 which is normal clearing.
12:30.15eduzimrs411 calls 484 who forward to dahdi/88292571
12:30.23eduzimrs485*
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12:34.15LantiziaAnyone with experience of getting a patton smartnode to send calls to an asterisk system as a peer that's already registered?  (asterisk keeps sending back Unauthorized for some reason)
12:34.42kaldemareduzimrs: and whatever is behind the DAHDI and that number just hangs up. there's nothing you can do about it if the number is correct.
12:35.37kaldemarLantizia: it's supposed to send unauthorized when authentication is required. does the smartnode not answer that with a new invite with credentials?
12:36.41Lantiziakaldemar, well it's really odd... if I tell the patton to use the username in the from field the call passes to asterisk dial plan - but i don't want that i want the patton to send whatever callerid it wants
12:38.05Lantiziakaldemar, so in short yeah I think it's authing - so i'm not sure why asterisk is saying unauthorised
12:39.06kaldemarthen it matches something you don't expect it to or nothing at all. a call attempt with verbosity and sip debug will tell.
12:39.22Lantiziakaldemar, does this help?  http://pastie.org/3262938
12:39.38Lantiziathat's all I get when I make an outbound call _to_ asterisk _from_ the patton
12:39.54Lantiziathe patton has registered with asterisk as a peer perfectly OK and can receive calls normally
12:41.12Lantiziakaldemar, from that log it's obvious that asterisk _knows_ it's come from Grenke (the peer name in sip.conf) but still disallows it... but if the from: field is Grenke@192.168.121.2 (that ip is the patton) instead of callerid@192.168.121.2 it passes through
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12:46.58nonlinearlyHi
12:47.49nonlinearlywe have an alcatel pbx with 300 lines to pstn and we want to get rid of it
12:48.01nonlinearlyso we want to move to Voip
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12:48.16nonlinearlybut I have a question
12:48.56nonlinearlyMicrosoft Lync Server and asterisk has the same target group
12:49.13nonlinearlyMicrosoft Lync Server and asterisk have the same target group
12:49.17nonlinearly?
12:50.20kaldemarLantizia: a previous registration from a device has nothing to do with authentication of actual calls. they are two separate things.
12:51.19kaldemarLantizia: after that 401, the smartnode is supposed to send another invite that has a WWW-Authenticate-header with credentials. that's how authentication works.
12:52.11Lantiziakaldemar, hmm ok so it is just a question of finding that setting in the patton - somewhere
12:52.19kaldemarnonlinearly: not knowing what "target group" means, i'll just say that lync and asterisk are not comparable.
12:52.40nonlinearlymarket maybe?
12:53.24nonlinearlydoes it make any sense the comparison between Lync Server 2010 and Asterisk?
12:53.31kaldemarLantizia: yes. or if you have a closed environment, you can always turn authentication off on the asterisk side with insecure=invite. but it's definitely better if you get the smartnode to authenticate properly. i used one many years ago and don't remember having trouble with it when configured.
12:54.01kaldemarnonlinearly: as much as any other comparison. that depends on your needs.
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12:55.31nonlinearlyI mean that if someone search for Voip solution can the Lync Server 2010 be such a solution?
12:56.33nonlinearlyAs the asterisk is?
12:57.33kaldemar"voip solution" is quite ambiguous. list your requirements for a system and you'll have easier time comparing solutions.
12:58.34nonlinearlySo the Lync Server 2010 maybe is an alternative to Asterisk...
13:01.45nonlinearlyAre Lync Server 2010 and Asterisk combeting products?
13:02.04kaldemarthey are very different.
13:02.39kaldemarlync is more like a service, asterisk is a telephony toolkit that can be used to build solutions.
13:05.14nonlinearlyOk thanks Kaldemar... So can not someone choose the one or the other...
13:05.59nonlinearlylike windows or linux...
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13:16.47nonlinearlythis question (Lync Server 2010 VS Asterisk) has a sense for us because we will change our CRM (Siebel) to Microsoft Dynamics CRM that we know there are smoothly colaboration
13:17.27nonlinearlywith Lync
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14:59.18techgood mornign/afternoon all..
14:59.44techi am trying to implment  asterisk (freepbx install) to avaya r5.1
15:00.02techi am able to establish a chanenel over my signaling group but i am unable to make a call in either direction.
15:00.45techon the avaya side I am getting 1191 Network Failure
15:00.50techwhen trying to call
15:00.54kaldemar~freepbx
15:00.54infobot[~freepbx] FreePBX is unable to be supported here. It is made up of complex dialplans and scripts which can't be easily supported by people who aren't deeply involved. Try joining #freepbx and asking there
15:00.59techoh thnx
15:01.01techand very sorry
15:01.31kaldemarit's ok. that's common.
15:01.45[TK]D-FenderAnd that isn't an * error and this isn't #avaya.
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15:02.18[TK]D-FenderSo lets leave "FreePBX" out of this for a while.  It's ace-able on so many other terms already :)
15:02.57wheeler_32Any other users in here from SAT4240?
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15:46.32TimeRideruh oh
15:46.57CurdieMorning all. I have a newbie problem, but I've read everything and I cannot solve it on my own. I've created a call file http://pastebin.com/GNvvmrey which I copy to /var/spool/asterisk/outgoing to play a system recording on a schedule. It's worked for months, but now it's calling and not playing anything. I don't think I've changed anything that should effect it. I don't know what to do, or
15:46.57Curdieeven what to check.
15:47.16CurdieThe extension works if I call it manually
15:47.42[TK]D-FenderCurdie, first you never "copy" a call-file in, you need to MOVE it from within the same filesystem
15:48.34CurdieOk, thanks. I'll do it that way and see if it helps.
15:48.37[TK]D-FenderCurdie, On the 2 sides of "next", you need to be looking at * CLI to see what it is actually doing when you do do this, and next you should asing in #freepbx as that's what the context would generally indicate you're using.
15:49.33CurdieMm. I am looking at the CLI and had some questions, but I'll take them over to #freepbx. Thanks!
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16:01.36wheeler_32Kind of new at this but how do I check the configuration of or status of a hardware card?
16:02.27WIMPyWhat card?
16:02.40wheeler_32Digium TDM411B.
16:04.01WIMPydahdi_hardware was tehe a dahdi_status or somethign, or cat /proc/dahdi/*
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16:18.53KattyNugget: and telnet.
16:18.54Nuggettelnet is eeeeeeevil!
16:19.03KattyNugget: we should be able to telnet into cars
16:19.34WIMPyLike in to Airplanes?
16:21.04Nuggetheh
16:21.09Nuggethuggles katty
16:21.34[TK]D-FenderKatty, http://www.snopes.com/humor/jokes/autos.asp
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16:35.59anonymouz666Katty: I am able to see how my car is working through my computer :-)
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16:40.01Kattyhugs Nugget
16:40.09Kattyanonymouz666: :<
16:40.11Kattyerr
16:40.13Kattyanonymouz666: :>
16:45.05jsarrelI need some help or guidance debugging a PRI.  In a nutshell, incoming works fine, outgoing is the problem.
16:45.15jsarrelpb of the pri debug http://pastebin.com/3MjCJzFC
16:46.05jsarrelWhen you try to make a call, it hangs up immediately.  It has worked flawlessly for several years now and all of sudden this happens with no changes made to the system.
16:46.33WIMPyDid you pay the bill?
16:46.34jsarrelWindstream is telling us that no dtmf is being sent once the line picks up.
16:46.44jsarrelhaha...i'm sure they have
16:46.57WIMPyWhat would DTMF do on a PRI?
16:47.19jsarrelOk, maybe not DTMF, but they arent getting the number to be dialed.
16:47.52WIMPyyes, that's what your debug says as well.
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16:47.57WIMPycalled number ''
16:50.09jsarrelhmm, I'm working on cleaning up the full log a little bit, but I do indeed see that * is getting the number
16:50.18jsarrelso i guess it's getting lost between the two
16:50.46WIMPyIt's not sending any. As if you Dial(dahdi/g1/)
16:51.33jsarrel[Jan 27 11:07:58] VERBOSE[16760] logger.c:     -- Called G0/wXXXXXXXXXX
16:51.43jsarrelreplace the x's with my cell number
16:51.49WIMPyw?
16:51.59WIMPyWhat does that do there?
16:52.04[TK]D-Fender<PROTECTED>
16:52.04[TK]D-Fenderq931.c:3134 q931_setup: call 32855 on channel 6 enters state 1 (Call Initiated)
16:52.13[TK]D-Fenderjsarrel, Called number = BLANK
16:53.02WIMPyBut still interesting that the call gets disconnected. I'd expect you'd hear a dialtone.
16:53.35jsarrelaccording to windstream, that is why they are disconnecting is because it's blank
16:53.35WIMPyAnyway. Get rid of that w.
16:53.57WIMPyThat's no reason.
16:54.00[TK]D-Fenderw is an ANALOG delay
16:54.01jsarrelk
16:54.13WIMPyBut it's a reason for not reaching anyone.
16:54.22[TK]D-FenderThat is a reason.  Just not one valid for anything other than DAHDI analog channels
16:54.47jsarrelFull log, tried to clean out other calls  http://pastebin.com/J2b037ps
16:55.45WIMPysmells some freepbx
16:55.49jsarrellol, maybe
16:56.00[TK]D-Fenderjsarrel,  -- Executing [s@macro-dialout-trunk:19] Dial("SIP/sip.vowdata.com-08d4ea50", "ZAP/G0/w8647063524|300|wW")
16:56.11WIMPyThe go to #freepbx and ask there how to get rid of that w.
16:56.11[TK]D-Fenderjsarrel, Still a "w" in front
16:56.24jsarrelthat was from earlier
16:56.34[TK]D-Fenderjsarrel, that is from the PB you just gave us
16:56.37WIMPyIt's nonsense.
16:56.57[TK]D-FenderStop showing us the past.  This isn't the Time Travel Network.
16:57.10[TK]D-FenderThat show is on at 11.
16:57.14jsarrelNo settings have changed between now and then.
16:57.22[TK]D-FenderEvery eleven.  Ever.  They're that good...
16:57.31[TK]D-Fenderjsarrel, Show us a real call now.
16:57.35WIMPyisn't so sure about the time travel. I often feel like that here.
16:57.57[TK]D-FenderWIMPy, Regrettably 1s/s here....
16:58.40WIMPyI've often got this "retro" feeling here.
16:59.11jsarrel"w" seemed to do it.  Now I know why you guys get paid the big bucks ;)
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16:59.40jsarrelI don't understand why it seemed to break it after it has been working for so long.
16:59.45WIMPyAnd where did that come from?
16:59.56[TK]D-FenderAnalog <-
17:00.02jsarrelMost likely been there from the start.
17:00.04[TK]D-Fenderthat's a 500ms pause before dialing
17:00.14[TK]D-Fender"been there from the start' really doesn't say anything
17:01.10jsarrelIn other words, it was there last week and worked fine up until now.
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17:01.35WIMPyUntil upgrading something?
17:02.07jsarrelNope, we haven't heard from them in a long time.  If it isn't broke, I don't fix it.
17:02.32jsarrelMaybe a setting or something changed on the other end?  Timeout for waiting for digits perhaps?
17:02.38jsarrelOther end being Windstream
17:02.40WIMPyis pretty sure it didn't change by itself.
17:03.23WIMPyYou didn't send any digits, so there is nothing they could use.
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17:05.51Psych0Hey guys, is there any way to implement allow deny rules for SIP connections like in apache?
17:06.17jsarrelWelp, now I know to be on the look for the w on non analog.  THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE HELP!!!!
17:06.23WIMPyPsych0: Have you ever taken a look at the config file?
17:07.03Psych0:facepalm: Actually, I didn't think to look thorugh it and look at the comments
17:07.11WIMPyjsarrel: I'd call it a bug that it's even possible.
17:07.20Psych0sheepishly goes to the SSH terminal
17:08.09Kattyaww
17:08.15Kattyhugs Psych0
17:08.18KattyPsych0: there there, it's ok.
17:08.25KattyPsych0: they are often brash here at times, don't take it personally
17:09.01Psych0No, I actually feel dumb for not thinking of that first
17:10.09carrarBRASS MONKEYS
17:10.23carrarIt's Funky Funky
17:11.07Psych0OK, confession time.... I'm running a Trixbox..... could someone give me a pointer as to the config file (or menu item) at which I need to be looking?
17:11.18carrar#trixbox
17:11.58Psych0Nobody answers there.
17:12.26Psych0Hence, I choose the wrong channel and straighten my shoulders for whatever beating is administered
17:12.26xaviawhen you edit the sip phone.. there is a field there for it.
17:12.48xaviatrixbox just uses freepbx
17:13.09WIMPyBeating? Ok.
17:13.13WIMPy~trixbox
17:13.13infobotTrixbox is unable to be supported here.  It is a closed-source distribtuion of Asterisk and FreePBX containing proprietary code that its users do not have access to, making it difficult to support.  Try joining #trixbox and asking your questions there.
17:13.14navaismoPsych0: Permit/Deny fields
17:13.17[TK]D-FenderNo, trixbox uses an outdated version of FreePBX they've FORKED from the main
17:13.18WIMPy~freepbx
17:13.18infobot[~freepbx] FreePBX is unable to be supported here. It is made up of complex dialplans and scripts which can't be easily supported by people who aren't deeply involved. Try joining #freepbx and asking there
17:13.37xavia[TK]D-Fender, thats great. don't care.
17:14.05Psych0WIMPy: I was being metaphorical. You guys have been most helpful in the past
17:14.58Psych0And the explaination as to why is helpful now
17:15.26[TK]D-Fenderxavia, Correct... the people in #freepbx won't care... it isn't their problem either...
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17:15.49xaviaand I am trying to help him myself in this channel where he asked the question
17:15.51xaviaso if you don't want to help him? don't answer?
17:16.42navaismocover eyes
17:16.47[TK]D-Fenderxavia, and I was correcting a singular piece of misinformation given here.  Who said I was talking to him?
17:17.03MiccDoes anyone have experience with yealink t28 remote provisioning and sip notify? My phones seem to only check for the config when I hit auto provision, reboot and sending sip notify don't make it check even though it is set to check on reboot.
17:17.10[TK]D-FenderWhat's all this talk about narcissism ... and what does it have to do with ME?
17:17.13[TK]D-Fender:)
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17:18.16xaviathey ship an outdated version of freepbx.. but I have updated through the web interface freepbx from inside trixbox.. so it's hardly a fork.. just a skinned version of the normal freepbx.
17:18.40p3nguinWe don't support Trixbox nor FreePBX here.
17:19.23Qwellxavia: The skinning requires source changes.  If it's still skinned, it's not FreePBX.
17:19.31[TK]D-Fenderxavia, xaviaNo, it is a fork, long documented over the years as Fonality didn't like the FreePBX's development pace.
17:19.32Psych0TBH, I didn't know if it was something that could be done at the text config (base asterisk) level
17:19.33xaviaok ok fine I will stop
17:19.47QwellPS, we don't support FreePBX here anyways, so your point is completely moot.
17:19.49Psych0Sorry for the aggravation.
17:20.06[TK]D-FenderPsych0, I still wasn't talking about you :)
17:20.37p3nguinpsych0: If you control the system using the GUI, the GUI controls Asterisk's config files.
17:20.41[TK]D-FenderPsych0, but do look if they offer "permit/deny" in your extnsion config.  You have have to enable some sort of "advanced settings" option for it to be listed if it is even offered
17:20.46navaismoPsych0: look for fields like permit deny in the extension or sip settings if you have it
17:20.56[TK]D-Fendermay have*
17:21.33Psych0Thx guys. also [TK]D-Fender, I take very little personally.
17:21.43Psych0Except my own ineptitude.
17:21.47Psych0:-D
17:22.38[TK]D-FenderPsych0, So if you wanted to restrict the who server (not just per extension), then that is IPTABLES job, not even *'s (and your GUI by proxy
17:22.51[TK]D-Fenderwhole*
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17:23.33Psych0Gotcha.... BTH, I was hoping to throw that info into SIPDefault and let it ride per extension
17:24.34p3nguinHow can I stop the jabber messages "Got presence packet from PEOPLE I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF, someone not in our roster!!!!"?  It is periodically flooding the console and I want to make it so I do not receive those packets.
17:25.19[TK]D-FenderPsych0, last I checked permit/deny were peer-only options, not usable in [general]
17:25.31jsarrelPsych0: have you looked at fail2ban to ban brute force attempts?
17:25.55Psych0I'm not seeing permit/deny or advanced options anywhere in the new extension screen.... looks like it's time to dig into IP tables rules
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17:26.30[TK]D-FenderPsych0, Psych0They may be there but hidden.  There is an "advanced features" flag in the admin for FreePBX.  See if their's has it
17:26.42Psych0jsarrel: No, I'm about as green as they come. I got SSH and httpd access under control and thought I had it "good enough"
17:26.50xaviaPsych0, they won't show up until after you added the extension
17:27.50Psych0OH!, I thought it was avaiable at th "add extension" screen
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17:28.25[TK]D-FenderPsych0, No, look at one you have already
17:29.49Psych0I see it now.
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17:30.20[TK]D-FenderPsych0, Not sure if the GUI permits you multiple entires though....
17:30.51Psych0That's fine, all the peers are at one IP
17:31.04Psych0Thank you so much guys
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17:32.19Psych0So just to confirm deny: 0.0.0.0/0.0.0.0 Allow: myip/mynetmask will deny everything besides that one IP from connecting to that extension, yeah?
17:33.06[TK]D-FenderPsych0, Of if you're protecting LAN phone then you'er set
17:33.09[TK]D-FenderOh*
17:33.23[TK]D-Fendertyping is becoming all too sloppy... TGIF
17:34.00Psych0Alright. Well, the company owns 4 IPs, the Trixbox is one one and the LAN where the phones reside is on another, but same concept
17:34.16Psych0It's amazing the IMPORTANT boxes we overlook
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18:26.57blizzowI have a couple of users who have been complaining about call quality.  I think I figured it out that when the microphone hears a fair bit of noise (ambient, the agent interrupts, or they blow into the microphone...) the distant side cuts out for a second.  I was looking around in my softphone for a full duplex setting and don't see one.  Is there a server side setting I can fiddle with to make sure conversations are full duplex?
18:27.22blizzowThe headsets they're using are GN2000 usb headsets and do full duplex just fine.
18:27.45WIMPyIt can only be the phones.
18:28.15WIMPyBut quite possibly the ones at the other end.
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18:34.13blizzowWIMPy: It happens for just about any phone number I call.
18:34.19blizzow:(
18:34.29blizzowSo I can't say it's at the distant end.
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18:38.25autofsckkhello, can somebody recommend me a VoIP provider for a call center? looking for good prices and good service too
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18:49.16hudonyhi there.  Having problem getting "block caller id per-call" working using asterisk and spa504G phones.  Anyone willing to help me a bit?
18:50.12[TK]D-Fenderhudony, Show us the problem and we might be able to show you a solution.
18:51.54hudonyWell.. When I dial *67, I can hear something special as I am offered a second dialtone.  I can then dial the number but my caller id isn't blocked.  In fact, the *67 isn't grabbed by  my dialplan even with *67. as an extension.  It seems like the phone is interpreting it
18:52.05hudonyI found information about this on the net
18:52.24hudonySo I disabled the appropriate functionnality on the phone
18:52.26hudonybut still the same thing
18:52.33hudonyWhat could help you?
18:52.47leifmadsenhudony: sounds like the phone itself is doing something with the *67
18:52.52hudonyyes
18:53.02[TK]D-FenderIt was.
18:53.03leifmadsenso it's not being passed to asterisk, and nothing that the phone is doing is causing somethign idffernet on the asterisk box
18:53.09[TK]D-FenderAnd not necessarily anything * cares about.
18:53.24leifmadseneven if asterisk isn't given callerid information, that doesn't mean your dialplan isn't setting it
18:53.45[TK]D-FenderOr that it is even happening in dialplan...
18:53.55[TK]D-FenderOr tell us what's in your peer...
18:54.34hudonyhold on
18:56.16hudonyThis is teh appropriate section of my dialplan : http://pastebin.com/64qmyAfy
18:56.27hudonyI will also show you the phone config
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18:58.00hudonyThis is what I have changed about the caller id settings: http://pastebin.com/cQfyAZZn
18:58.27hudonyActually, I didn't change the phone dialplan.  I just posted it so you can see it
18:58.43hudonyI have remove *67 from the config and put CID blocking service to no
18:58.50[TK]D-Fenderhudony, show us the call.
18:59.00hudonyok
19:02.06eduzimrsedar
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19:05.29hudonywell
19:05.50hudonyDunno what I have changed but now, when I dial *67, I get beep beep beep etc
19:05.59hudonyI am not receiving the second dialtone anymore
19:06.35hudonynothing is being displayed on the console though
19:06.51hudonyverbose is set to 100
19:07.05hudonyIt's like the phone won't allow me do dial it since I removed it from the configuration
19:07.53[TK]D-Fenderhudony, Verbose != sip debug
19:08.10[TK]D-Fenderhudony, and * has no match for *67 anyway
19:10.01hudonyWhat about the extension I created?  Shouldn't it match ?
19:10.10[TK]D-Fenderhudony, Nope
19:10.14hudonyoh
19:11.05hudonyCan you explain me why?  I am with the manual and the dot is supposed to match one or more character
19:12.37[TK]D-Fender*67 + one or more characters = how many total?
19:13.37hudony...
19:13.42hudonyyou are right
19:13.45hudony:S
19:14.59hudonyok
19:15.12hudonyWhen removing the dot, * now interpret the *67 :D
19:15.26[TK]D-Fenderhudony, This is a good learning experience for you.  Seeing how tiny little snafus can catch you.  Trust as little as possible and start with the most immediately suspect pieces.
19:16.24hudonyYa... I have talked a couple of time to you and often, I'm having problem cause of false assumption
19:16.39hudonyI guess I want to go a bit too fast
19:16.41hudony:S
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19:18.27SarcastEvening!
19:18.30[TK]D-Fenderhudony, Think about the scope of the problem you're working on.  * isn't processing what you dial.  First prove * is even getting a call in the first place "SIP debug".  If not, then the device isn't doing what you expect.  Fix that.  If the call is arriving and looks like the number you suspect, SIP DEBUG will show what peer it patched.  Was it right?  Ok, if so, is the call accepted?
19:18.57Sarcastyou guys mind if I join the channel and dump a question on your doorstep right away?
19:19.26[TK]D-Fenderhudony, It will say looking for [number] in [context].  Go prove you have the proper context named and pin down the precise exetns you feel should match it.  break every little part of any pattern match apart a few times over.
19:20.16p3nguin~ask
19:20.16infobotQuestions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic.  Don't ask if you can ask a question first.  Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them.  Better questions more frequently yield better answers.  We are all here voluntarily or against our will.
19:20.27Sarcastah fine
19:20.34[TK]D-Fenderhudony, Even that fails?  Did you make changes you forgot to reload for?  Ok, you checked the reload, still no go?  use * CLI to dump the dialplan.  Don't see your context & exten in there?  Do I even trust that the right config file was there and readable?
19:20.42Sarcastnormally you get blasted to crap if you ditch questions and leave hehe
19:21.04SarcastSituation: I've set up an Asterisk server a while ago on a Linux Debian machine. Works fine.
19:21.16Sarcastnow trying to get the webgui going so I can manage it more easily
19:21.16[TK]D-Fenderhudony, in a hurry to create from scratch did you get the permissions wrong?  Are you in the right folder at all?  Didi you somehow misspell the config file name (happens a LOT)
19:21.29Sarcastgui works, can login, can add users and the gui adds the stuff to the users.conf file
19:21.34Sarcastexcept the sip.conf doesn't get touched
19:21.44[TK]D-Fenderhudony, This is a "debugging thought process"
19:21.46p3nguinThere's no GUI in Asterisk.
19:21.52SarcastAsterisk webgui
19:21.53hudonyYa thank your for all these toughts
19:21.55Sarcastah
19:21.59Sarcastwrong channel probably
19:22.06p3nguinSo it seems.
19:22.09Sarcastsigh
19:22.11Sarcastthanks :)
19:22.17hudonyI'll try harder being more systematic from now on
19:22.22[TK]D-FenderSarcast, AsteriskGUI doust touch sip.conf AFAIK.  Everything is users.conf
19:22.31p3nguin#asterisk-gui or #freepbx perhaps?
19:22.40SarcastTK yea, that's what I figured out eventually too
19:22.50Sarcastbut asterisk only picks up the users in the sip.conf file
19:23.02Sarcastor seems to
19:23.35[TK]D-FenderSarcast, make sure your PBX is loading all the right modules....
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19:23.53[TK]D-FenderSarcast, and that the config files are properly named and the permissions correct
19:24.28Sarcastwell I haven't changed any of the config files, just the default make install stuff
19:24.52[TK]D-FenderSarcast, I would recommend really looking and proving that.
19:24.54Sarcastpermission could be it, but everything seems to work if I set things up manually and reload asterisk itself
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19:25.15[TK]D-Fender"I haven't changed anything" doesn't mean you might not be mistaken or that something may have changed behind your back.
19:25.19SarcastI did a chown asterisk.asterisk -R yesterday on the etc/asterisk folder and the /var/lib/asterisk
19:25.34Sarcastbefore that it didnt' work, after that, it didn't either
19:25.38[TK]D-FenderAnd if the GUI changes the permissions by modding it you could be DOA
19:25.40Sarcastbut made it more secure I guess :)
19:25.53Sarcasthm
19:25.55Sarcastgood point
19:26.47Sarcaston second thought, I dont think it's a permission problem
19:26.52Sarcastusers.conf gets updated just fine
19:27.05Sarcastjust not sip.conf, permissions/ownership is the same on files
19:27.08[TK]D-FenderSarcast, Start showing us stuff.. pastebin is your friend...
19:27.11[TK]D-Fender~pb
19:27.11infobot[~pb] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you should paste anything over 3 lines so you don't flood the channel. Here are links to a few: http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.us , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://bin.cakephp.org/ , http://asterisk.pastey.net/ ; or install pastebinit with yum or aptitude.
19:31.41Sarcasthm, asterisk shows the users.conf file when I throw a 'config list' command at it
19:31.46Sarcastseems it loads it just fine
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19:48.22Sarcasthm, when I ditch the info from users.conf in the sip.conf, everything works dandy
19:48.54Sarcastso why isn't asterisk reading the users.conf, even though the 'config list' command shows it is loading it :?
19:49.39Sarcast-rw-r--r-- 1 asterisk asterisk 715 Jan 27 20:37 users.conf
19:49.39Sarcast-rw-r--r-- 1 asterisk asterisk 65K Jan 27 20:47 sip.conf
19:49.53Sarcastpermissions are same, and it reads the sip.conf just fine when I manually set things up
19:50.07QwellWhat makes you think it isn't reading it?
19:51.04Sarcastmy phone can't connect if the user informatie is just in the users.conf
19:51.18QwellSo what makes you think the information in users.conf is correct?
19:51.26Sarcastwhen I copy the data from users.conf over to sip.conf and reload asterisk, user connects just fine and everything works
19:51.34Sarcast*phone
19:51.56Sarcastlitterally copy/paste the content from users.conf to sip.conf
19:52.08Qwellso then it isn't correct in users.conf
19:52.43QwellDid you set hassip=yes?
19:52.56Qwell(hint, you didn't)
19:53.14Sarcastlol
19:53.26Sarcastwell asterisk gui didn't then
19:53.37QwellBecause you didn't tell it to.
19:53.38Sarcastim just a noob user wanting to easily config the thing ;)
19:53.46SarcastI'll check it out, thanks for the heads up :)
19:57.30leifmadsenQwell: figured out my build issue with CentOS -- had to tell it a KSRC value of /usr/src/kernels, not /lib/modules/<somethingorother>
19:57.42Qwellweird
19:57.46leifmadsennot sure how you build CentOS stuff, because I've never seen kernel-devel installed there
19:57.53leifmadsenalways in /usr/src/kernels for me
19:58.01Qwellit's all magic!
19:58.11QwellDid you have kernel-devel?
19:58.19QwellThat should create the build/ link
19:58.27WIMPyThere should be a link from /lib/modules/version
19:58.36Qwellerr, is it version or build?
19:58.38QwellYou might be right.
19:59.18WIMPy/lib/modules/version/build to be exact
19:59.32Qwelloh, version isn't literal.  right.
19:59.32leifmadsenQwell: ya kernel-devel installed, no build/ link that I saw
19:59.53leifmadsendidn't see anything in modules that I remember, but it was getting late last night
20:00.05leifmadsenI hacked up the spec file to handle the KSRC value
20:00.22leifmadsenafter that everything went to happy
20:00.53QwellSo what is the source/ symlink there pointing to?  Or does that not exist?
20:01.03leifmadsenthere is no symlink
20:01.10Qwellhuh
20:01.14Qwellthose actually are owned by kernel
20:01.22leifmadsenjust exists in /usr/src/kernel/`uname -a`-target_arch
20:01.22QwellYour distro done broked it.
20:01.23leifmadsenKSRC=%{_usrsrc}/kernels/%{kversion}${kvariant:+-$kvariant}-%{_target_cpu}
20:01.34leifmadsenQwell: it's a flat centos install, so it does whatever it does
20:03.07Qwellrpm -qf /lib/modules/2.6.18-*/build
20:03.07Qwellkernel-2.6.18-274.3.1.el5
20:03.07Qwellkernel-2.6.18-274.7.1.el5
20:03.10Qwellshrugs
20:03.12leifmadsenQwell: strange how on centos6 itls all in the right spots
20:03.32leifmadsennot sure if installing in a chroot has anything to do with it, but it's just a 'yum install kernel-devel' that is running
20:03.37leifmadsenso that rpm would handle all that
20:04.05QwellDo you get anything weird from rpm -V kernel-`uname -r` ?
20:04.42leifmadsennot sure, I'd have to rebuild again and leave the chroot environment intact to find out what it does
20:05.04leifmadsenit gets created and destroyed each time I build unless I say not to
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20:23.20p3nguinHow can I stop the jabber messages "Got presence packet from PEOPLE I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF, someone not in our roster!!!!"?  It is periodically flooding the console and I want to make it so I do not receive those packets.
20:26.01Sarcastdisable the jabber module :?
20:26.12leifmadsenremove that notice line from the code?
20:27.36p3nguinRemoving the notice does not eliminate the packet.  I want a FIX, not a workaround for the message.
20:29.23Sarcast..well technically you asked how to stop the message ;)
20:29.48leifmadsenp3nguin: block that user on the jabber side, you're getting a presence packet from the jabber server
20:29.51leifmadsenit's not an asterisk thing
20:30.06p3nguinI think I just solved it.
20:30.11leifmadsenasterisk just handling it and telling you about it
20:30.11ChannelZJabber spam
20:30.24p3nguinI logged in to gtalk with pidgin and removed those spammers/users from my list.
20:30.54p3nguinI hope that takes care of it permanently.
20:31.51p3nguin<query xmlns='jabber:iq:roster'>
20:31.51p3nguin<item jid='cheerdayana2@aol.com' subscription='remove'/>
20:31.53p3nguin</query>
20:32.29p3nguinWhere do they all come from, G+?
20:33.48Sarcastmost IM programs have a block on unkown contact or unsollicitated messages
20:33.54Sarcastprobably same thing
20:34.13p3nguinThe problem is that I do not use any IM programs.
20:34.39Sarcastyou just mentioned gtalk and pidgin
20:34.49Kattyhello. i am not dave.
20:34.54p3nguinAsterisk uses jabber/gtalk for the Google Voice stuff, but these turds somehow weaseled only my roster.
20:35.06p3nguins/only/onto/
20:35.52p3nguinBecause they weaseled onto my roster, asterisk complains about the presense packets of these users that I DO NOT KNOW.
20:36.37p3nguinThey are not my "friends."  I do not know them and I do not want to see notices from asterisk regarding them.
20:37.41p3nguinSince asterisk does not have any type of interface to control such things, I decided to see what pidgin would show me.  It showed those turds on my list... so I removed them.
20:38.18Sarcastit's spam...
20:38.20Sarcastwhat can you do
20:38.22p3nguinNo shit.
20:38.28Sarcastyou can't cure spam
20:38.34Sarcastyou can block it or drop the message
20:38.46p3nguinApparently I just did by using the remove command.
20:39.06ChannelZYou might benefit from autoprune
20:39.13p3nguinI had it set to yes.
20:39.16p3nguinDidn't help.
20:39.24p3nguinI changed it back to no, now.
20:39.36leifmadsenautoregister=yes                        ;;Auto register users from buddy list.
20:39.38ChannelZthen not sure how those people got onto your list in the first place
20:39.43leifmadsenmay or may not help
20:39.47ChannelZif you're saying you didn't add them
20:40.12p3nguinWhat's the default for autoregister?  I have it commented out.
20:40.44p3nguinI don't want to be subscribed to spammers and I don't want spammers subscribed to me if I have a choice...
20:41.06p3nguinI've kind of assumed that autoregister would actually agree to subscribe them.
20:41.26ChannelZno idea.  I've never seen this problem
20:41.52p3nguinIt seems pretty popular, but no one has ever expressed a real solution.
20:42.00ChannelZDo you have a separate account for your Asterisk or is it a personal google account you use for everything else?
20:42.26p3nguinI use my personal google account for asterisk/gtalk because it is tied to my gvoice number.
20:44.01p3nguinWhile trying to find answers to the problem, I found a plethora of people experiencing a similar problem where this happens to them in their gmail chat.  I never use my gmail chat, but all those spammers' names were on that list as well.
20:45.32p3nguinMy daughter's gvoice is registered with asteirsk, too, and when I do jabber show buddies, I see spammers on her account too... but I never get the presence packet notices on those (it was always the ones from my list, and it just started a few days ago).
20:46.07p3nguinShe also does not use her gmail chat.
20:46.19p3nguinnor any gtalk IM.
20:46.31p3nguinWe just use gmail and asterisk/gtalk.
20:48.13leifmadsenp3nguin: there is likely a way to make it so it's not as easy for people to get on your list, but from the google settings side
20:48.38p3nguinI made a change to the chat settings in gmail, hoping that stops it from happening again.
20:49.09p3nguinSomething about not auto-adding people.  It seemed relevant.
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20:56.25SarcastI think I found it..
20:56.47SarcastAsterisk GUI only adds users to the file, the first time you update the config after a restart
20:56.55Sarcastthe 2nd update doesn't get pushed for some reason
20:57.06p3nguin*shrug*  No clue.
20:57.26Sarcastmaybe I should just ditch the whole thing and start from scratch -.-
20:57.28p3nguin~users.conf
20:57.29infobot[~users.conf] users.conf is a flaming pile of sh1t that takes the fine control of several perfectly usable asterisk config files and reduces them to the lowest common denominator and makes your system behave like a "toaster grade" PBX system.
20:57.36Sarcastinteresting learning way though
20:57.47Sarcastlol
20:57.48p3nguinLearning a GUI, you mean.
20:58.08Sarcastno, the GUI is just a way of easily adding people to the server when Im at work
20:58.13p3nguinI'd rather learn how to use Asterisk.
20:58.19Sarcastand dont want to get shell access to my server and dig my way through config files
20:58.30Sarcastfyi, asterisk works fine on my end
20:58.43Sarcastusing my cellphone to call people via wifi, works all dandy
20:58.53Sarcastjust screwing with the GUI atm, which doesn't seem to work :P
20:59.07p3nguinWhich sip phone do you use on your mobile?
20:59.20[TK]D-FenderSarcast, GUI needs a certain amount of basic configuration to be in place to operate as intended.
20:59.24Sarcast3cxphone on iphone
20:59.28p3nguinI like iSip a lot.
20:59.30Sarcastnot a clue what's on my htc p3600
20:59.39Sarcastand couldn't find a free one for my blackberry
20:59.49Sarcastopen for BB suggestions btw
20:59.51[TK]D-FenderSarcast, Also it is virtual unmaintained and you can double the population of their support channel just by entering...
21:00.02Sarcastlol
21:00.47p3nguinThis one time, at band camp, I tried to use the Asterisk GUI just to see how it worked...
21:00.52p3nguinIt didn't.
21:01.07p3nguinAll kinds of problems.
21:01.18p3nguinI gave up, since config files are actually much easier to deal with.
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21:19.40krotoshi all :)
21:21.41krotosi'm reparing an old asterisk box, that use this old ISDN controller: Cologne Chip Designs GmbH ISDN network Controller [HFC-4S] (rev 01)
21:21.48krotoscan i use dadhi with this card?
21:22.56WIMPyGenerelly, yes.
21:23.23WIMPyIf you need NT mode, you may need a patch, depending on the exact type of card.
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21:27.14krotosWIMPy: thankyou for reply, i use this card in TE mode , so i hope is "ready to run
21:27.57WIMPyThat will work, yes.
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22:38.23Kobazwhat's it mean when you have a triangle with an ! inside it, on a polycom line (showing on the display)
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22:49.33p3nguinI think it means DANGER!!!
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23:03.08Sarcasthum
23:03.16SarcastDANGER DANGER Will Robinson!
23:03.19Sarcast*runs*
23:03.32Sarcastwell ditched the GUI, set up stuff manually, working fine
23:03.54Sarcastnow trying to strangle my firewall to get iptables to nat the stuff from outside to inside.. or reverse
23:05.01p3nguinAre you talking about two different systems?
23:05.10p3nguinone firewall, one with asterisk?
23:05.21[TK]D-FenderSounds more like he wants his server to be a router as well
23:06.00ChannelZthat's easy
23:06.11p3nguinI'm trying to determine if that's really the case or not.
23:06.32p3nguinIf there is already a gateway, there probably isn't any need to make the asterisk system a router, too.
23:06.36Sarcastone firewall, one asterisk
23:06.43Sarcastinternal lan works like a charm
23:06.52Sarcastoutside, phone rings, connection made..  ..no audio
23:06.58p3nguinNAT is pretty easy to configure in iptables.
23:07.06Sarcastusually yea..
23:07.22Sarcastnot entirely sure if my cellphone provider allowes voip traffice
23:08.13p3nguinSounds like two completely different things to me.
23:08.24ChannelZbacks away slowly
23:08.57Sarcastdrops an oil tanker on ChannelZ
23:08.59Sarcastwins!
23:09.35Sarcastp3nguin trouble always comes two's
23:09.51Sarcasttwos
23:09.56Sarcastor threes
23:10.19p3nguinMaybe, but what does your cell provider have to do with voip?
23:10.51Sarcastthem blocking voip traffic?
23:11.57p3nguinIt's really hard for me to not repeat the question to try to get a more sensible answer.
23:12.41Sarcastslapping is allowed I guess
23:12.52Sarcastlong work day, not enough food, not enough coffee
23:13.07*** topic/#asterisk by mjordan -> Asterisk: The Open Source PBX and Telephony Platform (asterisk.org) -=- Asterisk 10.1.0 (2012/01/27), 1.8.9.0 (2012/01/27), dahdi-linux 2.5.0.2 (2011/10/21), dahdi-tools 2.5.0.2 (2011/10/21), libpri 1.4.12 (2011/07/06) -=- Visit the official Asterisk wiki: wiki.asterisk.org
23:13.23Sarcastghe
23:13.45Sarcastvisits the official Asterisk wiki
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23:50.43patrickodwhen using asterisk realtime configuration is it possible to still use templates?

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