IRC log for #asterisk on 20110831

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00:09.19p3nguinwimpy: Is there any real reason to have more than one group of channels?
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00:19.23WIMPyWhat do you mean?
00:20.13WIMPyOne type of group? One group per ....?
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00:38.32p3nguinI mean, like, if I have 100+ channels, is there any reason to have more than one group?  I could have group 0 consisting of all the available channels, couldn't I?
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01:05.18WIMPyYou probably would have more that one provider if you have 100+ channels, wouldn't you?
01:06.54WIMPyAnd even if you only have one, you might want to reserve some chnnels for some people/activities.
01:07.07p3nguinNo.  I was thinking in the case of that guy who was here recently with over 200 channels trying to make 200 concurrent calls.
01:08.28WIMPyGenerally no, but as he was too fast for his telco, interleaving the interfaces might make sense.
01:08.58p3nguinHe was only able to make one single call at a time with all those channels.
01:09.22p3nguinI don't know if he ever got that fixed or not.
01:09.30WIMPyNah, he made a lot more before.
01:10.12p3nguinWhen I asked him about making more than one call at a time from phones, he said only one at a time.
01:10.26WIMPyHe was so fast that he got RNR and even REJ frames.
01:10.49p3nguinWhat's the solution for that?  Add more time between Dial()s?
01:10.57WIMPyYes.
01:11.09p3nguinHow much delay is generally required?
01:11.26WIMPyOr my suggestion was not to use the channels sequentially, but interleave the interfaces.
01:11.35p3nguinHow is that done?
01:11.47WIMPyThat depends on the other end.
01:12.18WIMPyHe had one group per interface. So just using the groups sequentially whould have done that.
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01:29.11andygraybeali'd like to get a 66 block for the phone lines coming in.. phone lines coming in - one is our fax, one is our backup credit card (split into 3 for 3 different credit cards) one both our two different dsl lines.  i'd like to get a block with modular jacks on it-- what do you guys recommend?  maybe something entirely different?  should i go with 110
01:29.42andygraybealit's not big and i doubt we'd expand much
01:29.51p3nguinGood old digital subscriber line lines.
01:30.07andygraybealyes, dsl :)  why do you say it like that?
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01:30.30p3nguindsl lines == digital subscriber line lines
01:31.06andygraybealaah yes, i see
01:31.19andygraybealit's like so many other things i say :)
01:31.38p3nguinatm machines, pin numbers, pcb boards?
01:32.54p3nguinAt any rate, I don't see a problem with 66 for your circuits.
01:34.44andygraybealyea, i guess, i want those little modulear jacks on the sides of the 66 block, i got a plain 66 block.. and i'm wondering if i can add the modular things to it?  i'm new to this.
01:35.33p3nguinI've just mounted surface-mount modular jacks next to the block before.  I probably have a pic of one to illustrate.
01:35.50WIMPyA patch panel?
01:37.36andygraybealWIMPy,  yea, like turning it into a patch panel
01:37.49andygraybealp3nguin, i wonder what produc i should purchase
01:38.25andygraybeali've seen like the modular jacks to the side of the 66 block in some 'how to' video but i haven't found any online yet.
01:38.26sunfoneKeep the 66 block and get some surface mount RJ14 jacks
01:38.40sunfonepunch down the RJ14 jacks to your block
01:38.43sunfonevery cheap, very reliable
01:39.08sunfone(since you only have four or five)
01:39.12p3nguinhttp://imagebin.org/170344
01:39.30sunfoneexactly
01:39.47andygraybealaaaah.. badness!!
01:39.54andygraybealawesome.
01:40.21p3nguinIn this image I had to do a hot-cut from an old DSL circuit to a new one, so I simply added a new jack and switched the plug to the other jack when they said "Go!"
01:40.21sunfoneWhats the funky RJ45 yellowness penguin?
01:40.54sunfonehomemade patch panel? :)
01:40.56p3nguinI didn't put in the yellow cable.  My cable was white.
01:41.05WIMPyWhy not just use a patch panel? Isn't that what they're there for?
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01:41.28p3nguinI'm not familiar with patch panels with RJ-12s on them.
01:42.00p3nguinThey probably do exist, though.
01:42.15sunfoneI think any RJ45 patch panel would work for that
01:42.32p3nguinIt would, if you don't mind mixing your connectors like that.
01:42.38sunfonesure
01:42.45WIMPyWhat's wrong with "RJ45"? The other end would be that anyway.
01:43.08p3nguinPeople don't plug 8P8C plugs into phones.
01:43.09sunfoneNot to put down your homemade patch panel... its cute :)
01:43.45WIMPyNo, but into patch panel that terminate the outlets around the house.
01:44.11p3nguinI don't get it.
01:44.12WIMPyAnd if your phone has snother plud, you use a special cable there.
01:44.38sunfoneI just left a site where the "IT Guy" made splitters to run two ethernet links through a single CAT5E run - they were pulled apart and finger twisted together, then wrapped in shrink wrap tubing on both sides.
01:45.05sunfoneI should have taken a picture
01:45.41p3nguinWhen you arrive at a site where someone else did things their own way, you sometimes have to get creative on how to do your job.
01:45.53sunfoneindeed
01:46.08sunfoneI treat these occasions as an opportunity... to rip it all out and start over
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01:47.36p3nguinThat's bizarre that anyone would do that to Cat 5 cable.
01:47.40andygraybeali just want the next guy not to hate me.. that is all.
01:48.18sunfoneandygraybeal: if you do it the way p3nguin suggested, you will be doing it the "standard" way and no one could blame you :)
01:48.38andygraybealawesome, thank uou for the help.
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01:50.20andygraybeali'm excited now.
01:50.40andygraybealthis has been bothering me and i have not known how to approach anyone
01:51.09p3nguinI guess if you wanted to use a regular Ethernet patch panel, you could.  It seems like a waste to me, though.
01:51.37andygraybeali got like 5 24 port patch panels.... i think i'[m only using 3
01:51.38p3nguinModular jacks are only $5 each.
01:51.41andygraybealif that
01:51.55andygraybealbougt'em on ebay for cheap
01:52.11andygraybealcat5e.. no back brace.. which i didn't realize.. but oh well.
01:52.31andygraybealwell i mean, i knew they were cat5e... i didn't realize they didn't come with a back brace.
01:52.53andygraybealbut, where i got the phones, there's very little room
01:53.55andygraybealit's between two air exchangers... it's totally lame, but it's the only out of the way place in the area that has space; the spot where this stuff used to live leaks badly in the winter time with water
01:54.13andygraybealthey've replace our phone system before because it's shorted out
01:54.31andygraybealand.. this is before i got there
01:54.51andygraybealit's gotta get moved somewhere else for sure; there's plastic covering it for now
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01:59.22maxagazhi
01:59.41maxagazwhat is the difference between BID and DID lines ?
02:01.45p3nguin~bid
02:01.47p3nguin~did
02:01.47infobotdid is probably Direct Inward Dialing, or just a phone number
02:03.26maxagazis it specific to my provider ?
02:05.55p3nguinIf BID isn't known by infobot and BID isn't in this telecom dictionary, you'll have to tell me what it is.
02:08.17p3nguinBID - A SID allocated for accounting purposes. BID's are allocated by Cibernet
02:08.25p3nguinIs that what you're talking about?
02:10.43dymmornings.
02:10.50maxagazp3nguin, someone from china telecom came and told me I had the choice between DID and BID, then nothing was clear, at the beginning, BID was for 30 lines with one number for all, and DID 30 and as many numbers as needed, but now it seems DID is actually 100 lines
02:11.15andygraybealp3nguin, that back mount for the 66 block on the plywood; i don't  know if mine has that ability, i know i don't have the backmount, and i imainged the 66block would be flush against the plywood; can you explain to me if this is an okay thing to do?  or should i find out how to use the backmount like you have?
02:11.24WIMPyLines or numbers?
02:15.21p3nguinandygraybeal: Take a look at your 66 block.  How's the back look?  Any reason it wouldn't be safe to flush mount it instead of having it raised?
02:15.55andygraybealnot at all; it's straight plastic, and on the top left, and bottom right there are holes in the chasis to screw through
02:16.19andygraybealto attach
02:16.37p3nguinSounds like it is meant to be mounted flush against a wall to me.
02:17.05andygraybealokay cool that's what i imagined. thank you for explaining.
02:17.17andygraybealit's heavy for what it is :)
02:17.24andygraybeali was surprised, happily
02:18.41p3nguinhttp://imagebin.org/170350
02:19.05p3nguinTake a look at these.  You can see how there is a "bracket" and a punch block on top.
02:19.20p3nguinBut you can also see that the blocks have their own tabs for screws.
02:20.51andygraybealp3nguin, okay thank you, looking
02:21.26p3nguinThe block actually snaps onto the brackets, which leaves space behind it to run the wires neatly.
02:22.09andygraybealintense, i see it's a method for organization.
02:22.27andygraybealokay, thank you for helping me understand.
02:22.37andygraybealvery intense.
02:23.18andygraybeali hope that shiaz is labeleled... omg.
02:23.27p3nguinWith all the blue and white pairs on the outside, it doesn't really show how wiring goes under it.  Let me grab another image.
02:24.02p3nguinhttp://imagebin.org/170351
02:24.05andygraybealye, more picks the better; i wonder where i can find that same mount, beacuse that looks exaclty like the block i have
02:24.17p3nguinThis one shows how the wires go under the blocks, behind the brackets.
02:25.05andygraybealhow long does imaginebin hold the data?  can i reference it in an email showing my workmates?
02:25.26andygraybealmeb, i should save it to our box
02:26.02p3nguintwo weeks
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02:27.24andygraybealk cool, i'll save right now "66block images" folder :)
02:28.13andygraybealthank hyou
02:29.15p3nguinI hope you don't have to deal with that many wires.
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02:32.24andygraybealhahaa, yea, that is a full time job; we got maybe what.. 6 lines... total :)
02:38.07andygraybealokay, please don't make fun of me... but our two phone lines (4 wires each) from outside, are run on an outside rated cat5 cable;  is this okay?
02:38.16andygraybealor should i have done something different?
02:38.41andygraybeali mean, run from outside, to the inside ... which will go to the 66 block
02:42.29p3nguinI run phone wires over the pairs in Cat 5... just look at that first image where I have two modular jacks.,
02:42.57andygraybealthanks p3n
02:44.08p3nguinJust use blue and blue/white for the first pair, and orange and orange/white for the second pair.
02:45.08p3nguinThat equates to your red green pair, and to the yellow black pair.
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02:48.24andygraybealawesom,e thank you.
02:48.33p3nguinYou can wire two 6p2c onto those pairs in your Cat 5 if you want two separate plugs, or you can wire both pairs into one 6p4c if you want two lines on one phone cord.
02:49.09p3nguinOr wire them into a modular jack or two.
02:49.20p3nguinIt's all up to you, really.
02:49.39andygraybealyea, okay... i'm still digesting your sentance.
02:49.49p3nguinoh
02:50.16p3nguinI don't have any images of two plugs on a Cat 5 for phone wiring.
02:50.35andygraybealthat's okay, i wondered a little, but i understand.
02:51.08p3nguinYou know what the 6p2c or 6p4c plugs are, right?  ... the plugs that go into your RJ11 and RJ14 jacks.
02:51.18andygraybeali hate to sound this dense and apologetic
02:51.49andygraybealokay, i know what rj11 is, atleast i think. i', not sure what rj14.. lemem wikipedia
02:51.49p3nguinDon't worry about it.  Just ask.
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02:52.28p3nguinThe RJ11 is the 2-wire jack, and the RJ14 is the four-wire jack.
02:52.47andygraybealwell, then this time i've been calling rj14, rj11.
02:53.09andygraybeal*all this time
02:53.30p3nguinMany people use the terms synonymously, when they are really different things.
02:54.25p3nguinIf you grab a phone and look in the jack, it probably only has two conductors in it.  That's an RJ11 and the correct plug for it is the 6P2C.
02:55.32p3nguinOr, to be more technical, the RJ11 is on the wall side, and the jack in the phone has another name.
02:56.35andygraybealaah okay
02:57.20p3nguinOh, cool... the wikipedia page for modular connectors has a chart/diagram that shows about using Cat 5 pairs for phones.
02:57.28p3nguinabout half way down the page.
02:57.36andygraybealloks
02:58.15p3nguinCompare "twisted pair colors" to "old colors."
02:58.55p3nguinThat chart's a good reference.
03:00.12p3nguinI should print that on an index card and throw it in my bag.
03:04.02_Shadowfax_anybody here have dahdi-linux working with RHEL 6.1? i can complie it but not load the module.
03:05.06_Shadowfax_insmod: error inserting '/lib/modules/2.6.32-131.6.1.el6.x86_64/dahdi/dahdi.ko': -1 Unknown symbol in module
03:09.49p3nguinandygraybeal: While all this wiring may be off the topic of Asterisk, it's something I enjoy doing and don't mind talking about it if it's not causing problems for others... so feel free to stop in if you have more questions when you start getting into the wiring.
03:10.30andygraybealcool, thanks.  i figiure this is the only place to chat about it online.
03:10.40andygraybealthere is no #telephony :)  i tried first.
03:11.27andygraybeali'm wstill reading 'registerest jacks' in wikipedia
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03:13.51p3nguinHardly anyone sticks to the standards of registered jacks when talking about the stuff.
03:14.17p3nguinJust look at our computers... we call them RJ45 when we use them for Ethernet between a computer and a switch.
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03:33.20andygraybealp3nguin,  :)
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03:36.39p3nguinJust sayin'.
03:39.55p3nguinNow if I could just find someone that knows how to sync the time on an iPod touch with a connected computer, I could call it a day.
03:42.44andygraybealp3nguin,  :)
03:42.52andygraybealntpclient on ipod sucks?
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03:43.10p3nguinThere apparently is a huge lack of ntp clients on all Apple products.
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03:43.51andygraybeallike... them hippies... at apple to do that :)
03:43.56andygraybealeff the time !
03:47.08p3nguinI see an app that is supposed to do it.
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03:57.20p3nguinEven installing an app that uses an internet time service, it still won't change the time on the device.  How annoying.
04:01.14tekzillai want to intercept calls (who i calling which extension or user) programatically, what would be the best way
04:01.22tekzilla*who is
04:03.11p3nguinDo you want to listen, record, or take the call yourself?
04:04.56tekzillai dont want to interfere with the call, i just want to know when its taking place
04:05.29p3nguinWould printing the call information on the asterisk cli be enough?  You can do it with Verbose() if so.
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04:06.33tekzillaok so i should just parse cli output
04:06.59p3nguinIf you want to read it with an app, there's always the CDR.
04:08.12tekzillaright
04:09.18tekzillaas i want to act pretty much immediately i guess i'll have to continuously parse the CLI output
04:11.07tekzillathere wouldnt be any kind of api for plugins/modules ?
04:14.07kaldemartekzilla: add a line to your dialplan that notifies you somehow. you can run a dialplan application or a system command with app System or func SHELL.
04:15.04kaldemarone choice is to listen to events from the manager interface.
04:16.15kaldemardefine how you want the information and you'll get better answers.
04:16.21tekzillakaldemar: that sounds like a very good solution
04:16.50tekzillathe info i need is: which extension is being called by whom
04:17.17tekzillait would indeed be great if i could pass that info to some shell command
04:18.49kaldemarSystem(/path/to/command ${EXTEN} ${CALLERID(all)})
04:19.23tekzillathank you very much!
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04:54.52tekzillakaldemar: is this a proper catchall extension ? "exten => _X.,1,cmd"
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04:55.36p3nguinThat will match any one digit followed by one or more digits or characters.
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04:56.09tekzillaok
04:56.34p3nguinSo *67 would not match it, but 2014991234 would.
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04:57.06tekzillayes thanks, then it should work for me
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05:30.42rue_mohrcan anyone confirm I'm right that if a nortel MICS is powered down for a week you have to pay ~$400 to buy a few PRI enabler keycode?!
05:31.14rue_mohrcause if so, I think I'm into some firmware hacking
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05:40.42p3nguinhmm
05:41.36tekzillaerr that was unintentional
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05:44.22p3nguinWorse things have happened.
05:46.36tekzilla:)
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07:23.41irroot~freepbx
07:23.42infobot[~freepbx] FreePBX is unable to be supported here. It is made up of complex dialplans and scripts which can't be easily supported by people who aren't deeply involved. Try joining #freepbx and asking there, or fpbx
07:23.54irroot~trixbox
07:23.54infobotmethinks trixbox is SH1TB0X. Basically a CRAPPY, closed-source distro. STAY AWAY!
07:24.20irrootusing the bot to show collegues the comparision
07:24.25irroot~beee
07:24.27irroot~beer
07:24.27infobotACTION has disconnected (Read error: 99 (Connection reset by beer))
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07:39.40singlerirroot: playing around with bot? :)
07:39.50irrootindeed
07:39.56irrootfondleing his ass
07:40.24irrootwas showing our customer manager the diff between fleapbx and [one]trixbox
07:42.52singler:)
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08:49.45Polysicshello
08:50.13Polysicscaller calls, i start MoH then Originate calls to other people they have to press 1 to accept
08:50.18Polysicsif they do, they get bridged
08:50.45Polysicseverything works well until the CALLER hangs up BEFORE speaking with anyone
08:50.57Polysicsi would obviously like to terminate everything
08:51.20Polysicsand i would just Hangup using AMI, but apparently the hanging up does not generate ANY event
08:51.26Polysicsis that just possible?
08:53.22Polysicsi do see the MoH stopped message in the console
08:53.27Polysicsbut no events
09:01.00Polysicsplease?
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09:05.04merlin8282HELO
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09:06.27irrootcoppice morning sir ... may i pick your brain on the DSP stuff CED/V.21 detection the V21 implementation you have commented on as been flawed that asside will running CED+V.21 detect be better than current ?
09:06.30merlin8282What is nowadays the best way to receive (and optionally send) faxes through the internet with asterisk ?
09:06.55irrootmerlin8282 T.38 is the best option for internet faxing
09:07.41merlin8282irroot: ok, and does it work when I send a fax with our analog fax to the asterisk (which then would do T.38) ?
09:08.15irrootmerlin8282 asterisk 10 has T.30/T.38 gateway now still in beta
09:08.50irrootuse of a fax adapter with T38 can also be used
09:08.58merlin8282irroot: and I suppose that our SIP provider has to be able to do T.38 also ?
09:08.59olliigrandstream supports t38
09:09.01coppiceirroot: you just can't rely on hearing 2100Hz. if you don't look for FAX preamble you will have very quirky results. we did before we started looking for preamble :-)
09:09.06olliior hylafax with t38modem
09:09.13Polysicsbasically, why am i getting no event on hangup?
09:09.51irrootcoppice yeah and not to mention the quirky bits im getting ATM with V21 only
09:10.12coppiceirroot: and when looking for 2100Hz, you need to make sure your detector can deal with all the modulated variants reliably
09:10.24merlin8282mmm, that would mean that every one who wants to send us a fax would have to send it in T.38 ?
09:10.29irrootand asterisk does not do this currently
09:11.01coppiceirroot: what are you using to detect the V.21? you really have to look for FAX preamble, rather than any old V.21
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09:11.46coppiceirroot: I don't know how well Asterisk detects 2100Hz these days, but its track record shouldn't make you very hopeful :-)
09:11.51irrootmerlin8282 no they will send via most often POTS the sip provider will gateway to T.38 over net and then you need to gateway back to a faxmachine ... using fax to mail is ok for T.38 supported on asterisk
09:12.11merlin8282ok. Yes the idea is to do fax2mail
09:12.19irrootcoppice yeah indeed lol the V.21 as it stands is looking for 1850
09:13.02irrootmerlin8282 use res_fax/res_fax_spandsp modules for fax to mail
09:13.08coppicethat's entirely useless. there is no way to get a simple tone detector to do the job
09:13.20olliimerlin8282: or use hylafax with iax/t38modem
09:14.20merlin8282mmm, I just see that our sip provider does not support T.38 :/
09:14.21irrootcoppice it does sortof sometimes maybe most the time work but i am using 2100+1850 to initiate T.38 handshake
09:14.56coppicea simple 1850 detector will hit on voice far too often
09:15.06irrootmerlin8282 change providers there is little no hope you will have of getting it working see coppice page regarding this
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09:15.57Polysicshow is it possible that hanging up results in NOTHING?
09:16.20coppiceirroot: since you are already using spandsp, why not use the robust detector it contains?
09:16.33irrootcoppice yeah granted with proper dialplan and detecting 1100 and only waiting for 1850 after this is less prone to false start
09:16.52irrootcoppice im planing to use it and put it in res_fax_spandsp
09:17.04irrootjust not had the time yet its on the todo list
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09:28.10ixyd_iam using queuelog in my dialplan while queue_log is pointing to an odbc connection (in extconfig.conf), if the odbc is not availiable the queue_log application is heavily blocking the execution of the dialplan :( i already tried to set writetimeout and net_retry_count in odbc.ini but it seems that asterisk doest care about this ;) do you have any ideas how to get rid of this dialplan locking?
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09:40.01ixyd_i tried setting connect_timeout in res_odbc.conf too, but it seems as none of the timeout parameters is behaving as one would expect it?! even with connect_timeout=>1 (res_odbc.conf) and writetimeout=1 (odbc.ini) and net_retry_count=1 (odbc.ini) it takes about 9 seconds for the queue_log appplication to fail :(
09:41.28irrootixyd_ you logged a bug ??
09:41.55ixyd_not until now...i want to make sure the bug is not my head/configs before ;)
09:42.32irrootif it is we will make fun of you and tell all our friends :P
09:43.04irrootmost of us are busy at work and the like so if you log a bug it will get seen too
09:43.21irrootsomeone may check it out but im bit busy at the moment
09:45.41ixyd_well i will try a bit more and wait if someone else maybe does have an idea....then i will open a bug :)
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10:10.57catphishdoes the realtime mysql config support hints from the extensions table?
10:14.33ixyd_i dont think so
10:17.45Polysicshow can i terminate an originate that was started from the current call?
10:18.16Polysicsie. caller comes in, i use originate to dial destination because of intermediate steps, caller hangs up BEFORE someone anwers
10:20.41Polysicscan i do ANYTHING about that?
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11:36.50_naomia channel variable with two underscores is not being inherited, do you know why that might be?
11:37.59leifmadsenmore information needed
11:38.11leifmadsenit most certainly works, it just sounds like you might be expecting something else
11:38.32wdoekes2(a) you're reading it with ${__var} instead of ${var} ?
11:38.41leifmadsenwdoekes2: great point
11:39.10wdoekes2(b) it's a special variable (name) ?
11:40.19wdoekes2(c) there is no regular inner/local dialing going on ?
11:40.42_naomii'm using ${var}
11:40.47_naomiits not a special name
11:41.12kaldemar_naomi: show a CLI output with the set and the noop or verbose
11:41.18_naomiwdoekes2, what do you mean by (c)? there is some complex dialling
11:41.22leifmadsenand the dialplan you're using
11:43.40irrootleifmadsen up at it early hey ... ps R1400 is a go
11:44.06leifmadsenirroot: awesome! I think that is assigned to rmudgett to take through to resolution. I'm usually up about 7am or so most days
11:44.51irrootyeah im sure he will commit it have a good day
11:45.17_naomiheres the cli. its pretty complex sorry. variable is Q_ROW_ID
11:45.19_naomihttp://pastebin.com/CMV0zbmp
11:46.12irrootwith r1400 commited i have no outstanding 1.8 issues and have not seen deadlocks in ages if you have not moved to 1.8 1.8.7 will be a winner
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11:47.48_naomidialplan is enormous should i send what i consider relevant bits?
11:48.34irrootNoOp("SIP/200-00000087", "Q_ROW_ID: ")  ?? could it be ${....} cant see other response
11:49.23_naomidialplan line there is exten => s,n,NoOp(Q_ROW_ID: ${Q_ROW_ID})
11:50.29_naomivars set in macro-agent-do-queue persist but this one is set in macro-do-queue and does not
11:50.39_naomimaybe nested macros issue?
11:52.24kaldemarNoOp("SIP/100-00000086", "__Q_ROW_ID=158")
11:53.21kaldemari don't see a Set, only a NoOp.
11:53.47_naomioh god sorry mate
11:54.22_naomithanks
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12:35.31lowtekHey guys, anyone running Asterisk 1.8 on 64-bit ubuntu server?  Any issues?  Should I stick with old reliable 32-bits?
12:36.02lowtek~64-bit
12:39.58VoipForceslowtek: I'm running 1.6 64bits on CentOS no problem.
12:40.03atheosO
12:40.04atheos,
12:40.09atheosI'm running 1.8 on Debian 64
12:40.29lowtekThanks guys, what types of volume are you pushing?
12:40.56VoipForceslowtek: Got one server with 5x PRI/DAL
12:41.03atheosnot too much here, maybe 300-400 calls a day, 50 extensions.
12:41.30atheosmy high volume asterisk phones are still running  1.2/1.4
12:41.42atheosphones/phone systems
12:41.51lowtekYea, that's where we are now, 1.4 ... 96 servers worth
12:42.17lowtek16, not 96 ...
12:42.20lowtektype-o
12:42.37lowtekThinking about finally coming up to 1.8
12:42.45atheosI'm rewriting one dial plan at a time to get everything up to 1.8
12:42.47lowtekWe're running Debian 5
12:43.04lowtek32-bit
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12:44.38singlerI would advise to wait for 1.8.7 for upgrade, it seems that it will be very good release :) (1.8.5 is having some issues)
12:45.40leifmadsenactually I find 1.8.5 pretty stable in a few of my lower usage situations -- nothing before that I could get to stay up when using transfers
12:47.43mtltemplarHey all. Back now for the day. Morning.
12:48.13mtltemplarSo I am still having the issue with SIP calls I make dropping after 5 minutes if I mute my phone. If I don't mute it, it will last 'forever'
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12:48.31mtltemplarThe SIP debug is http://pastebin.com/GurNSzkr
12:48.40leifmadsenmtltemplar: sounds like asterisk is dropping the call because it isn't getting any audio from the device
12:49.24mtltemplarRight, so I set my rtptimeout and rtpholdtimeout both to 0 and it still happens
12:49.43leifmadsendo you have session-timers enabled?
12:49.47atheosmtltemplar - sounds suspiciously similar to an issue I'm having.  put callers on hold, and then loosing audio when returning to the call
12:50.11leifmadsenlosing*
12:50.26atheoscorrect, losing
12:50.37atheosI'm a looser when it comes to spelling
12:50.45lowtek@leifmadsen which version are you recommending for stable+high volume deployments?
12:50.55atheosloser even
12:51.29lowtekThanks, singler!
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12:56.03leifmadsenlowtek: whatever works in your testing is what i recommend :)  I use 1.8.5.0 right now
12:57.21lowtekCool, tnx :)
12:59.07irroot1.8.6 is to be born in next few days i suspect
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13:00.51awk1.8.6 is buggy
13:01.09awkiax doesn't work properly, meetme doesn't work properly...
13:01.37awkill rather wait for 1.8.42 before i even consider using it... right now i've nearlly lost a few big clients because it is soooo unstable
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13:05.26leifmadsenI'm not a fan of blanket statements
13:05.29olliiwe only use 1.8.5 to support single,cheap hfc chips ... ;)
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13:14.10anonymouz666singler: that's exactly what I planned to do, wait for 1.8.7.
13:16.17anonymouz666sipstorecause, important pickups fixes, queue deadlock fix and other few things.
13:17.25anonymouz666awk: you are lucky, if you can wait. there are things that we can't wait so long. everyone that works with big callcenters know that distributed device state IS needed
13:17.38mtltemplarsession-timers?
13:18.42awkanonymouz666: ye and the system DND isn't working properly either.. using it for ring back..
13:18.55awkgetting slin to native alaw issues on a sip channel?
13:19.30anonymouz666what is system DND?
13:19.48awkfeature code for DND
13:21.19Kattyzgggnnnn
13:21.22Kattyennffff
13:21.26Kattyurbbzzz
13:21.36Kattyzombies in
13:21.56lowteklol, awk, what version do you run in production?
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13:30.13mtltemplari just set session-timers=originate and it still dropped at precisely 5 minutes of being muted
13:30.22mtltemplardo you think my VOIP provider is somehow overriding my settings?
13:30.54mtltemplarif you look at the sip debug trace, it almost seems that the VOIP provider is the one initiating the BYE
13:31.54kaldemarmtltemplar: do you have RTP timers set?
13:32.52kaldemarmtltemplar: sounds like a 300 second rtpholdtimeout.
13:32.58treborsux<PROTECTED>
13:32.58treborsux<treborsux> like set default volume for loudest
13:33.10KattyATTENTION LOVABUHLS
13:33.13Kattyit is hug time.
13:33.17Kattydo you know where your hugs are?
13:33.20awklowtek: production 1.4.42.-3
13:33.24Kattyhugs leifmadsen
13:33.27Kattyhugs Qwell
13:33.48irrootkatty hey i want too zombie hugs :P
13:33.54Kattyzomb-hugs irroot
13:34.08Kattynow they are slight-caffeinated-but-still-mostly-zomb-hugs
13:34.27irrootcaffeine for the win
13:34.55Kattycaffeine for my face
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13:36.03anonymouz666irroot: did your fix to queue deadlock works fine for the reporter?
13:36.46Kattywhere are my hugs?! )=
13:36.48Katty)= )= )=
13:37.19irrootanonymouz666 i hope for feedback i have seen this lock so infrequently myself i had some time and took the excelent debug and put a proposal in id like someone to look at the logic of it perhaps
13:37.25mtltemplaryes, i have rtptimeout and rtpholdtimeout at 0
13:37.30irroot{{{{katty}}}}}
13:37.59fenrusoh haithere Katty
13:39.06mtltemplarboth globally and at the peer level
13:39.55Kattyyay
13:39.57Kattyhugs fenrus
13:40.31fenrushugs Katty
13:42.07anonymouz666irroot: if i read correctly it happens two times/day for the reporter, so if he applied the fix will see the result soon
13:43.04chuckfhugs Katty
13:43.17Kattyhugs on chuckf
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13:44.25m_tadeuhi...is it possible to trigger an event from an agi to receive in ami?
13:44.47m_tadeua custom event, I mean
13:45.57irrootanonymouz666 not as easy as that the initial report was re pickup that was already in the branch the queue problem was a double log on ticket got leifmadsen to modify jira to reflect this when i had a proposal for fix
13:47.16leifmadsenm_tadeu: you mean have your AGI attach to AMI? Sure
13:48.20m_tadeuleifmadsen: I'm not sure what you mean by that....what  I need is to send a custom event from an agi script and receive it in my manager app
13:54.24leifmadsenm_tadeu: then I don't understand your question
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13:58.18atheosm_tadeu, are you wanting to execute an event without it being associated to a call? am I reading your question right?
13:59.05m_tadeuleifmadsen,atheos: I need to send some specific notifications from my agi script during the call sequence....and my manager app should get those notifications in order to do some stuff
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14:00.01kaldemarm_tadeu: core show application UserEvent
14:00.12atheosasterisk to ago to manager? sure, you can do that.
14:00.19atheosago/agi
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14:01.59irrootputnopvut greets there
14:02.08McBoingBoWe have some users outside the city that use our VPN and X-Lite/Bria as a VOIP client, they complain the sound gets very choppy at times, and I was wondering what solution do you guys use when this happens?
14:02.08putnopvuthi
14:02.40irrootputnopvut dude i know its been a while but surely the queues container should not be locked while calling ring_one ??
14:02.42m_tadeuthanx guys...I was looking in agi documentation and forgot about the core apps
14:02.46irrootin app_queue
14:03.12atheosm_tadeu - the perl Asterisk::AGI stuff makes it easy
14:03.38putnopvutirroot: um, I have no idea man. That sounds wrong, but I seem to recall that if weights are involved then the container would be locked for some reason. I'm not 100% sure though.
14:04.29irrootok thats wehre it was its involved in a dead lock ill look into it more thx millions
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14:12.45jayson_ri am trying to use asterisk for voicemail for my avaya s8730 using analog lines
14:13.04jayson_rwhen asterisk sees the call, it sees he original caller id rather than the called extention
14:13.08jayson_rhas anyone ever seen this?
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14:14.29malcolmdasterisk doesn't see called extension if the call's coming in from an FXO interface....if Asterisk is the FXS side of the equation, and the avaya's the FXO), then asterisk will know what extension was dialed.
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14:17.08pabelangerm_tadeu: Or if you are using Python try StarPy
14:17.17McBoingBowhat can I do to eliminate echo, it seems no matter what I do, the other end of my conversation can always hear some echo
14:17.39pabelangerMcBoingBo: find the source of it?
14:17.45pabelangerwhat channel tech are you using?
14:17.58McBoingBohow do I find the source of it?
14:18.11McBoingBoI thought it was always the device
14:18.22pabelangerwhat type of channel, SIP, DAHDI, etc
14:18.28McBoingBoSIP
14:19.11pabelangerthen try to figure out which leg of the echo it happens on
14:19.39McBoingBothats why I am here, I have no idea
14:20.34pabelangerwell, we need more information about your setup.  EG: PhoneA calls PhoneB, there is echo.  If PhoneA calls PhoneC, is there echo?  If PhoneB calls PhoneC is there echo?  Process of elimination
14:20.51McBoingBothere is always echo on the other end
14:21.01McBoingBovolume will control the magnitude
14:21.02pabelangerwell, what is the other end?
14:21.21McBoingBowhomeever/whatever you call
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14:21.26Polysicshello
14:21.37Polysicsi will try asking again :-D
14:21.39sruffellMcBoingBo: You could try setting up a softphone and use that and see if the other end has echo..if so…you know it's your phone.
14:21.43McBoingBoit could be a cell phone, another VOIP phone in the office, anything
14:21.47sruffellI mean if not.
14:22.06pabelangerMcBoingBo: If you change phones, do you get echo still?
14:22.13McBoingBoyes
14:22.16Polysicscaller calls in, moh starts, i originate calls to receivers, when they pick up they are told who is calling and press 1 to accept, if they press 1 they get bridged
14:22.23Polysicseverything is working
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14:22.47PolysicsBUT when the caller hangs up while one of the receivers is ringing, the receiver still rings
14:23.02Polysicshow can i make that ringing stop?
14:23.03pabelangerMcBoingBo: if you can from phoneA to PhoneB on the same LAN, is there echo?
14:23.29McBoingBowe mostly have Polycom 300/400's which would always have echo, and the new 450's the same
14:23.43McBoingBopabelanger: yes, echo
14:24.22pabelangerIs RTP going through Asterisk? or are you re-inviting media?
14:25.00pabelangeralso, check your phone configuration settings for some sort of echo cancelling ability
14:25.38McBoingBonot sure about RTP pabelanger
14:26.36pabelangerMcBoingBo: Start there.  If RTP is passing thru asterisk then change it so it does not, retest to see if there is echo.  If the answer is yes, then the issue is not with Asterisk but your phones
14:27.20pabelangerIf echo goes away, then you have an issue with Asterisk and RTP.  Either CPU is to high or something else
14:28.54McBoingBok thanks
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14:39.21irrootecho is almost always a hard issue physical problem almost always on the hybrid
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14:42.40Polysicsno ideas about my problem, please?
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14:58.47ThomasFrielinghi all! is there a way to add entries to astDB on asterisk startup?
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14:58.52ThomasFrielinglike a bootstrap?
14:58.55treborsux[2-9]11T|0T|011xxx.T|[0-1][2-9]xxxxxxxxxT|[2-9]xxxxxxxxxT|[2-9]xxxxxxT|[*]xxxT|[#]xxxT|[2-9]xxxT|[2-9]xxT
14:58.55treborsux<treborsux> 3|3|3|4|3|3|3|3|3|3
14:58.55treborsux<treborsux> that is how it is set
14:58.55treborsux<treborsux> but when i pick up the phone and start dialing it hits send by itself in the middle of dialing why????
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14:59.09navaismomorning!
14:59.50GuggeThomasFrieling: not really, but they stay on reboots
15:01.01ThomasFrielingGugge:  i see
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15:01.23p3nguinYou could always screw up the init script to do it.
15:01.25ThomasFrielingthe "astdb" in sip.conf is deprecated and wont be fixed, right?
15:01.40voipguynumber1purpledragon
15:04.04p3nguinWhat do you mean astdb in sip.conf?
15:04.14p3nguinThat must be something from before my time.
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15:12.22Guggehttp://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+config+sip.conf <- astdb is there ... but i never used it :)
15:13.14voipguynumber1voip-info.org is so outdated. is there any up2date resource for asterisk?
15:13.23p3nguinI'm looking at my most recent sample file, and it isn't in there.
15:13.44Guggei dont know if it ever worked either, it just see it there :)
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15:16.52p3nguinI'm kind of wishing it would have been more popular when I started using my astdb for stuff.  That seems useful.
15:17.05McBoingBopabelanger: well the Polycomm 450 has an echo cancellation feature, but it only works well if the headset is plugged into the phone, and not the amp system for the headset.
15:17.32p3nguinWithin the past couple years is when I related all my devices to extensions in the db.  It would have been perfect for that.
15:17.54McBoingBoI have had a hard time finding just a headset with rj9 connector
15:18.25p3nguinIt seems like my headset for my Cisco phone might have that connector.
15:18.30p3nguinLet me check.
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15:19.04McBoingBoIt seems almost impossble to get a headset and not a whole system....gah
15:20.50p3nguinYep, my phone/headset use the 4P4C.
15:22.11McBoingBop3nguin: 4P4C, is that some kind of connection converter?
15:22.32irrootyeah spring day tommorow
15:22.32p3nguinIt's the plug on the end of handset and headset cords.
15:23.25McBoingBooh, lol, so what headset do you use? And does anyone know of a good place I can pickup just a rj11 headset?
15:23.49p3nguinYou mean 6P6C, probably.
15:24.00McBoingBoerr sorry yeah I mean rj9
15:24.08p3nguinThat's a 4P4C.
15:24.16McBoingBono, RJ11 is 4P4C
15:24.27p3nguinnegative
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15:24.37p3nguinRJ11 uses 6P2C.
15:24.46McBoingBothen this site is wrong lol http://www.trianglecables.com/telplugenrj4.html
15:24.50p3nguinI have a plantronics headset, which does not directly have the plug on the cord.
15:25.03McBoingBosorry I go by connector type not the ends
15:25.21p3nguinYes, that site is wrong.
15:25.37p3nguinI'm talking about the connector, as well.
15:25.53p3nguinIt's not an RJ unless it provides telephone service to a phone.  The handset connectors do not.
15:26.00McBoingBoyes indeed, I speak male you speak female ;)
15:26.11stack_Good morning… I just converted from a 1.2 system to a 1.8 system.  I'm using Ubuntu Hardy and the Asterisk packages from asterisk.  I'm getting the following errors: http://pastebin.com/z1PBzmuc  Calls ring busy when this pop up.  It seems to be intermittent.  Any ideas?
15:26.21p3nguinI'm speaking hermaphrodite.
15:26.39p3nguinYou're speaking registered sex offender.
15:27.29p3nguinAt any rate, my headset cord and phone use a 4P4C (or RJ9 to those who don't know any better).
15:27.38McBoingBopfft :P
15:27.52p3nguinI have a plantronics headset, which does not directly have the plug on the cord.  I could probably find the cord part number if you need it.
15:28.32McBoingBop3nguin: I bought several S12 systems from Plantreonics and they echo a lot, echo goes away when I bypass the amp system, so I want to get just headsets
15:28.44p3nguinThe headset has some special fancy plantronics connector, so you have to have the right cord for your phone.
15:29.07McBoingBoyeah the "easy disconnect" connectoers
15:30.15p3nguinWith my cable going to my phone, I can plug in any of those easy disconnect headsets into my cable.
15:30.42McBoingBop3nguin: so you only have a headset not a fancy amp system that comes with?
15:31.00p3nguincorrect.  headset, cable, phone.
15:31.35McBoingBop3nguin: know the model?
15:31.44p3nguinI'm trying to find a number for you.
15:32.05McBoingBop3nguin: thanks!
15:32.17p3nguinI remember when I was shopping for the cable, I found a few part numbers that were the exact same cable.  Maybe the lengths were different or something.
15:38.00p3nguinIt looks like it may be the Plantronics 26716-01 quick disconnect Cisco cable.  I'd say it won't work on Polycom, though.
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15:40.24p3nguinHowever, it looks like the 27190-01 is for Polycom.
15:40.52McBoingBohehe thanks p3nguin
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15:42.02p3nguinIt seems to be for H and P series headsets.  I don't know if that means it works on your other model headset or not.
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15:44.08p3nguinI also do not know if the Polycom phones have a built-in headset amplifier.
15:44.59McBoingBop3nguin: what cisco phone do you have?
15:45.05p3nguin7960G
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15:51.45gnudayHi I'm looking for a site with some examples for py-asterisk. Any suggestions? Thanks
15:56.31McBoingBojesus, $200 for a RJ9 headset, is this the norm?
15:56.46p3nguinWhat model?
15:57.00McBoingBohttp://www.1800headsets.ca/headset/sennheiser-c510-headset-cstd01-cord/
15:57.19Qwellyou expect a sennheiser to be cheap? O.o
15:57.23McBoingBoit seems the headsets WITH amp systems are cheaper than just the RJ9 headsets themselves
15:57.40p3nguinThat's probably a good price for that headset.
15:58.02jayteesennheiser is like the Lamborghini of headsets
15:58.06McBoingBohehehe
15:58.09stack_Good morning… I just converted from a 1.2 system to a 1.8 system.  I'm using Ubuntu Hardy and the Asterisk packages from asterisk.  I'm getting the following errors: http://pastebin.com/z1PBzmuc  Calls ring busy when this pop up.  It seems to be intermittent.  Any ideas?
15:58.17McBoingBoyeah I knew it was higher end, but that much? ok
15:58.48p3nguinIt's about $100 for the Plantronics headsets I use.
15:59.20McBoingBop3nguin: which model? you gave me the quick disconnect PN
15:59.28jayteethat's because the speakers are made with samarium cobalt magnetic cores and the diaphragms are made from gold impregnated unobtanium :-)
15:59.43McBoingBowoooh deep
16:01.20p3nguinI thought that's what you wanted.  I like the HW251 for single ear and HW261 for dual ear.  Append an 'N' for noise canceling models.
16:02.22p3nguinhttp://www.voiplink.com/Plantronics_HW261N_Dual_Ear_Noise_Canceling_Headse_p/plantronics-hw261n-cs.htm
16:04.47p3nguinIf you don't want/need a wideband model, drop the W from the part number.
16:05.06p3nguinThey should be about the same price, though.
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16:07.11p3nguinCheap!  http://ogden-ut.geebo.com/merchandise/view/id/569278-plantronics_h261n_supraplus_office/
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17:10.02killownDo anyone know a soft sip thats support g729a codec ?
17:10.57leifmadsenkillown: likely only commercial soft phones as g729 requires a license
17:11.12leifmadsenkillown: the phone by EyeBeam would be an example (EyeBeam)
17:11.23leifmadsens/by EyeBeam/by Counterpath/
17:11.24killownleifmadsen, For linux?
17:11.33leifmadsenI don't think they make a Linux one anymore
17:12.01leifmadsenI'm not sure how access to the g729 codec would exist for softphones in linux
17:12.48killown:(
17:13.39p3nguinWhy do you have to use g729?
17:14.15killownp3nguin, Because my sip provider does use this codec
17:14.24p3nguinYou aren't using Asterisk?
17:15.11killownp3nguin, I am using...
17:15.30p3nguinUsing... what?
17:15.32killownp3nguin, What is the best codec?
17:15.42p3nguinThere is no "best" codec.
17:15.50p3nguinAre you using Asterisk?
17:15.57killownYES
17:16.19p3nguinIf you are using Asterisk to communicate with your provider, you don't need g729 on your phones.
17:17.36p3nguinIf the only reason you wanted g729 for your phone was because your provider uses g729, then you don't need g729 on your phones.  Use a different codec on your phones that does not require a license.
17:18.21killownp3nguin, G722?
17:18.42p3nguinDoes your phone support it?  Does your asterisk support it?
17:19.21p3nguinI probably would have picked ulaw, but if you support g722, you could use it.
17:19.53killownp3nguin, The qutecom soft phone supports it
17:20.16killownp3nguin, I am looking for a codec that gives the best quality voice
17:20.39p3nguinIf your provider is using g729, I'd use ulaw on the phones.
17:21.05p3nguinYou won't be able to use the full potential of g722 with the other leg of every call using a lesser codec.
17:22.10killownp3nguin, Ok, I just need some codec that gives a good quality voice, do you recommend a codec?
17:22.20p3nguin(1220.38) <p3nguin> If your provider is using g729, I'd use ulaw on the phones.
17:23.14killownOps sorry
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17:23.50p3nguinYou won't get any better quality on a call than the lowest codec being used between the two end points.
17:24.53p3nguinSo if you used g722 between your phone and asterisk, and g729 between asterisk and your ITSP, you'll just be using more bandwidth between your phone and asterisk and not getting any better quality than the g729 leg.
17:26.01jayteegood point
17:26.10killownp3nguin, Do you know a linux softphone that supports ulaw?
17:26.21p3nguinall of them
17:26.39p3nguinI like twinkle, but it requires qt3 (which many people do not have).
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17:27.29killownp3nguin, What about this http://icanblink.com/blink-qt-beta.phtml ?
17:28.09p3nguinIt supports ulaw/alaw.
17:28.17killownok
17:28.45p3nguinAlthough the people who wrote the web site aren't very smart.  "MacOSX"
17:29.15p3nguinOr maybe their space bars got broken mid-page, then began working again later.
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17:29.30killownThe soft sip too... I get a lot errors until bring it to work...
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17:47.24zambai need a decent sip client for linux
17:47.32zambaand please don't say ekiga, because that sucks
17:47.52p3nguinI like twinkle, but it requires qt3 (which many people do not have).
17:48.11zambatwinkle i've tried and that sucked a bit as well :p
17:48.24p3nguinSounds like you're doing it wrong.
17:48.26zambahehe
17:48.28irrootzamba blink is working for me
17:48.41irrootzamba you could use asterisk ....
17:48.50zambahehe
17:48.55p3nguinAsterisk has a soft phone?
17:49.04irrootasterisk "cli dial"
17:49.13irrootor write a AMI script
17:49.14p3nguinAnd then use a mic and speakers?
17:49.20zambairroot: that's for mac os.. i need something for linux
17:49.23irrootyip chan_console
17:49.32p3nguinBlink works on Linux.
17:49.33navaismoZoiper
17:49.39navaismo<PROTECTED>
17:49.52irrootnot bria blink you fool who cares about iFad
17:50.49irrootekiga uses opal
17:51.08zambahttp://icanblink.com/
17:51.10zambanot this?
17:51.24p3nguinhttp://icanblink.com/blink-qt-beta.phtml
17:51.26irrootzamba yip
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18:07.55HiveHey guys, I've got a problem going on with using GoToIf (newb question i know)  Here's a pastebin explaining the problem. http://pastebin.com/1UdRAp2d  Any insight is greatly appreciated!
18:08.24HiveBasically it's not jumping to the right spot!
18:08.58p3nguinIf your group count is greater than 1, it will go to the next line in dial plan.  If it is not greater than one, it will go to the busy label.
18:09.04p3nguinWhat did you want it to do?
18:09.36Hiveit it's > 1 then go to (busy)
18:09.37kaldemarHive: you should have ?:busy
18:09.39p3nguinexcept you have a syntactical error
18:09.39Hiveahhh
18:09.40Hivedamn it
18:09.49Hivesorry for bringing this to the table -_-
18:09.49p3nguinNo ? even.
18:09.57Hivethanks guys haha
18:10.34p3nguinBut if it is greating than one, it will go to the next line.  ?:busy says if it is NOT greater than 1, jump to busy label.
18:10.59p3nguinSo you probably want ?busy instead.
18:11.01McBoingBop3nguin: We are located in Ottawa here, we have several sales type folks out in Toronto that complain about choppy phone calls through xlite&bria, is ther something I can do about that? I want to blame ISP's at this point but apparently Skype calls are flawless
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18:18.25*** topic/#asterisk by leifmadsen -> Asterisk: The Open Source PBX and Telephony Platform (asterisk.org) -=- Asterisk 10.0.0-beta1 (2011/07/22), 1.8.6.0 (2011/08/31), dahdi-linux 2.5.0 (2011/08/08), dahdi-tools 2.5.0 (2011/08/08), libpri 1.4.12 (2011/07/06) -=- Visit the new official Asterisk wiki: wiki.asterisk.org -=- http://xkcd.com/806/
18:18.46leifmadsenAsterisk 1.8.6.0 is now available. More information about this release is available in the release announcement at http://www.asterisk.org/node/51672
18:19.35VoipForcesMcBoingBo: I have has very good sucess with Zoiper Biz
18:20.14VoipForcesMcBoingBo: I would try a hard phone see if you have choppy voice, if so then I would check network usage and then internet bandwidth.
18:20.35VoipForcesMcBoingBo: Latency also on your network and on the internet to your carrier.
18:24.19NaikrovekPolycom add support for the SIP REASON header yet?  anyone know?
18:36.31voipguynumber1purple dragon
18:36.50WIMPyNaikrovek: They don't?
18:37.02p3nguinvoipguynumber1: You said that before and I didn't understand it then, either.
18:37.30NaikrovekWIMPy: don't think so.
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18:38.20NaikrovekWIMPy: if you have a ring group with two phones in it, call the ring group, both phones ring.  One user picks up the phone, the other user will show a missed call.  REASON code would prevent that
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18:39.51NaikrovekAsterisk supports it, and would tell the phone that didn't answer that the call was answered by another phone, and then the phone would NOT display a missed call.
18:40.01voipguynumber1p3nguin: purple dragon
18:40.23p3nguinYes, that.
18:40.33p3nguinStill don't understand it.
18:40.46voipguynumber1p3nguin: one day you will...
18:41.12p3nguinI wouldn't know why it would know it one day.  It doesn't seem to have much relevance.
18:42.16jayteefor a minute I was thinkin Barney but that's a dinosaur.....not a dragon
18:42.22voipguynumber1ah but what is relevant these days
18:45.17jayteeI googled. I think he was referencing the slang term on urban dictionary.....not the gay travel guide company in Thailand
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18:45.49Qwelljayson_r: How can you be sure?
18:45.51jayteeor he possibly could have been referring to a hybrid strain of cannabis sativa
18:45.55voipguynumber1lol, that's not what i was referencing but that is hilarious
18:45.56Qwelland by that, I mean jaytee
18:46.13Qwellvoipguynumber1: Wanna see something else hilarious?
18:46.35WIMPyNaikrovek: I know it used to annoy me quite a lot before Asterisk supported it. Although there had been patched quite some time before.
18:46.51*** mode/#asterisk [+b *!*@*98.118.168.221] by Qwell
18:46.52*** kick/#asterisk [voipguynumber1!~north@pdpc/sponsor/digium/Qwell] by Qwell (I laughed. IRL. PS, still permanent.)
18:47.30WIMPyErr. "a patch available"
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18:49.15leifmadsenQwell: our favourite troll?
18:49.21trumeeis there any ATA which supports TLS/SRTP with asterisk?
18:49.50Qwellleifmadsen: always
18:49.56Naikrovekyeah who was that
18:50.34QwellI still haven't gotten a harassing message yet.  Maybe he's finally getting a clue.
18:53.40leifmadsenQwell: you're no naive
18:53.45leifmadsens/no/so/
18:53.48leifmadsen:)
18:54.03QwellI don't have to take that from you!
18:54.38QwellHe probably just hasn't realized he's gone yet.
18:54.46jayson_rQwell: how can i be sure of what?
18:55.01Qwelljayson_r: you can be sure of my tab completion failure rate
18:55.21jayson_rQwell: gotcha :-)
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18:56.30Qwellleifmadsen: I am calling it right now.
18:56.35QwellThat was our dear friend.
18:56.49leifmadsenthe dear leader?!
18:56.53QwellWE LOVE THE LEADER
18:57.02leifmadsen:)
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19:13.07pabelangerLeader, leader, leader, leader, leader, leader, leader, leader, BATMAN!
19:16.23jaytee<@Qwell> and by that, I mean jaytee    < huh?
19:16.51Qwellnothing
19:17.22jayteethought I'd unintentionally said something that was offensive
19:18.17jayteeok, now I think I get it. autocomplete
19:18.22jaytee:-)
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19:26.17[sr]howdy
19:29.13jayteewow, the feds want to stop the AT&T T-Mobile merger. reminds me of the early 80's
19:31.42_Corey_jaytee: Yeah, they filed suit to block and everything
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19:37.25hetiiHello :)
19:38.02navaismohi
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19:41.45hetiiI need to clear few things about SIP protocol, because i try to build own proxy server.
19:42.39hetiithe question is for what many kind of client sip software (softphones) have settings to define a sip proxy server ?
19:43.27p3nguinAT&T - T-Mobile?  What happened to Verizon - T-Mobile from a few years ago?
19:44.05hetiias i see based on "Twinkle" softphone sip message sending by it is equal independed if i set proxy settings or not
19:44.28hetiiso who and when use those information ?
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19:45.46p3nguinI think I'd rather use one of the existing SIP proxies rather than learn all that stuff that only needs to be learned to write a new SIP proxy.
19:47.25hetiithe point is that i really need build own one :) so will be nice if someone could provide me  a useful information
19:47.39Qwellwhy?
19:48.01p3nguinWouldn't it be a lot less trouble to hack an existing one?
19:48.04hetiiTo be able change some headers when it is required
19:48.06QwellIf you can't figure out how to find the information you'd need to write a SIP proxy - you cannot write a SIP proxy.
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19:49.23CaptWhowhat does it take to turn asterisk into a class 5 switch?
19:49.43CaptWhoit looks like it's capable...
19:50.09wdoekes2class 5 is what asterisk excels at
19:51.11wdoekes2http://xkcd.com/903/
19:51.26CaptWho<wdoekes2> have you worked with it in that capacity?
19:51.41p3nguinI don't remember wdoekes2 saying that.
19:52.02Qwellp3nguin: I do.  It was before your time.
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19:52.46p3nguinI've been here since captwho joined, and wdoekes2 only said two things, neither of which was the line captwho just quoted.
19:53.38jayteemy all time favorite xkcd comic: http://xkcd.com/418/
19:53.48CaptWhoi was addressing that question to wdoekes2
19:53.55pabelangerAsterisk PBX, not Asterisk Switch
19:54.13CaptWhojust wondering if he had first hand experience with it
19:55.23CaptWho...or does anyone have first-hand experience using asterisk as a class 5 switch?
19:55.47p3nguinWhen you wrap someone's nick in angled brackets, it appears if you are quoting that person.
19:56.09pabelanger~ask
19:56.09infobotQuestions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic.  Don't ask if you can ask a question first.  Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them.  Better questions more frequently yield better answers.  We are all here voluntarily or against our will.
19:56.12p3nguinIf you want to address someone, it is far easier to just type a couple letters of the person's nick and press the tab key to complete it.
19:56.24CaptWhosorry... using xchat and it just did that for me
19:56.30p3nguinNasty.
19:56.33[sr]jaytee: whats wrong with the AT&T?
19:56.47p3nguinAT&T wireless sucks.
19:57.31jaytee[sr], nothing in particular. just commenting on the feds trying to block their merger with T-Mobile
19:57.50[sr]hum
19:57.58jayteekind of like when the feds forced them to break up their "monopoly" back in the early 80's.
19:58.09[sr]its usual the ISP's to provide wireless access's in the US?
19:58.10p3nguinAnd in the '80s, too.
19:58.33p3nguinUgh.  People and their misplaced apostrophes.
19:58.33jayteenothing stimulates an economy like government intervention :-)
19:58.39CaptWhooh, that's cool, p3nguin.  never knew that before
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19:59.10wdoekes2CaptWho: I spoke too soon, see what pabelanger said, it's a pbx, not a switch. however, my wikipedia result for class 5 turned up that it was something that subscribers would connect to directly, which is something that asterisk does better than the other "classes" mentioned
19:59.14p3nguinHERE COMES AN S
19:59.27jayteeI apologize for my blatant misuse of the apostrophe
19:59.45jayteegoes off to find an online punctuation refresher course
19:59.56p3nguinDon't trust anything you find online.
20:00.13jayteeespecially in the personal ads
20:00.31p3nguinOnline, people think "it's" means it owns something.
20:01.24p3nguinAnd they try to sell 85-foot cars and stuff.  "Selling my 85' Fiero..."
20:01.31jayteelol
20:01.44jayteeextra long garage not included
20:02.09p3nguinWhen I was traveling last month, I saw a tractor/trailer that indicated the driver was from the graduating class of 68 feet.
20:02.18p3nguinClass of 68'
20:02.48p3nguinI just shook my head as I went around him.  I don't understand how people can be that dense.
20:02.48jayteesumma cum laude and sum cum quietly
20:04.40eduzimrsANyone here has some example with app AUTHENTICATE() ?
20:04.51p3nguinYep.  One moment.
20:04.56SyrexAsterisk 1.8 ready for serious production? Burnt myself moving to 1.6 too early... ;)
20:05.22jaytee< 2hrs = cold refreshing Three Floyds Pride and Joy Mild Ale
20:06.02navaismoSyrex if you read the changes yes.
20:06.33p3nguineduzimrs: http://pastebin.com/25nSuvxn
20:06.41eduzimrsp3nguin: tks
20:07.03p3nguinsyrex: That's why you should pay attention to branches that say LTS and those that do not.
20:07.32p3nguinDon't call me and enter extension 123; it isn't real.
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20:09.20pabelangerSylnai: personally, I never move anything into production without creating a test environment first
20:10.07jaytee~book
20:10.08infobotAsterisk: The Definitive Guide, 3rd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51734-3) available at http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596517342 - Asterisk: The Definitive Guide is released under a Creative Commons License (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/us/) and is available for reading online at http://ofps.oreilly.com/titles/9780596517342/ or ~buybook
20:12.56eduzimrsp3nguin: see if its possible what i wanna do. I want a authentication using a password associated to a name. ex: when callerid (BLAH) branch 123 make a call will need the password to jump to the next priority. I need the password associated to the Callerid or a file that contains the pass and name.
20:13.59p3nguinAuthenticate() should be able to do that.
20:14.34eduzimrsim having difficults trying to do that
20:14.40eduzimrsits not clear to me
20:16.04eduzimrsits important that ACCOUNTCODE be setted with the password value
20:16.15p3nguinYou can use Authenticate(/path/to/file)
20:16.57trumeeanybody knows what is the backend of sipgate.co.uk?
20:17.12DefrazI have a little php that uses the management api in asterisk, I hvae it connecting just fine but I can't figure out the command in asterisk to use to have it dial my phone at my desk SIP/1010 for example then dial the number I have have in my form for example.
20:17.27DefrazI am using the fop2 to do it now but I rather have my php script do because it does a customer lookup.
20:17.32Defrazfrom another db
20:17.41p3nguineduzimrs: You'll need to look at the m option, I think.
20:17.46eduzimrsp3nguin: exten => 411,1,Authenticate(/etc/asterisk/pass.txt,m)
20:18.40eduzimrsp3nguin: im trying the content of the file is like "bla:1111"
20:20.27Defrazis there a command you send to a sip device that tells it to call out?
20:20.35eduzimrsp3nguin: "bla" is just the name of the person who is going to use the password 1111
20:20.51Defrazonce the sip device is answered?
20:20.54_Corey_Defraz: manager show command Originate
20:21.09p3nguineduzimrs: So that's the valid account code?
20:21.12Defrazokay
20:21.14Defrazthanks for that
20:21.26_Corey_sure
20:21.42p3nguinoriginate doesn't actually make the phone dial out, but it does dial out and bridge the phone to the call.
20:22.10_Corey_Well, it should point him in the right direction...
20:22.15p3nguinyep
20:22.20eduzimrsp3nguin: hum, must i set it before authenticate() ?
20:22.26p3nguinI was only clarifying that it didn't make the phone make the call.
20:22.51p3nguineduzimrs: The account code is set inside Authenticate().  It goes in the file.
20:23.37eduzimrsp3nguin: sry but its hard to me understand account code.
20:23.56p3nguinaccountcode is used for accounting or CDR.
20:24.35p3nguinSo if your account code is bla, your password is 1111, I guess.
20:24.41eduzimrsyep, but for an example...how should be the file?
20:24.44p3nguinYour devices should be configured with accountcode.
20:25.10p3nguinWait, I'm mixing two things.
20:25.26p3nguinWhen you use password 1111, Authenticat() app sets the account code on the channel to bla.
20:27.13eduzimrsyeap but u konw how this file should looks like?
20:27.26p3nguinIn the file, I would use something like 762:105245, where my account code is set to 762 if the password I enter is 105245.
20:27.38p3nguinaccountcode:password
20:27.40p3nguinone per line.
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20:28.02eduzimrsthis, using the M option right?
20:28.17p3nguinno
20:28.21p3nguinm, not M
20:28.25eduzimrsyeap
20:28.30p3nguinIf M even exists, it probably does something else.
20:28.31eduzimrssry
20:30.53eduzimrsit says "Password Incorrect"
20:31.30eduzimrsp3nguin something is missing
20:32.13p3nguinI'll test it in a minute.
20:32.30eduzimrsok
20:33.31QwellI would imagine it's password:acctcode
20:33.44eduzimrshttp://pastebin.com/BgXtfknU
20:34.00p3nguinOh.  The help on the app led me to believe otherwise.
20:34.33p3nguin<PROTECTED>
20:34.34p3nguin<PROTECTED>
20:35.11Qwellalso it's a hash
20:35.30p3nguinNow that could be the problem he's facing.
20:35.42p3nguinHash the password before putting it into the file.
20:36.04p3nguin762:some-long-hash-for-the-password
20:36.11p3nguinwhere 762 is the account code that will be set.
20:36.34eduzimrsany idea to creat a hash? md5 ?
20:36.38Qwellmd5
20:36.39p3nguinI guess you can hash it with md5 or md5sum, depending on your OS.
20:37.02p3nguinecho -n 1111|md5sum
20:37.52eduzimrsyeap
20:37.54eduzimrsill try now
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20:42.16eduzimrsdoesnt work at all
20:42.19eduzimrsohh
20:42.46eduzimrsjust to let u know my * version is 1.4
20:42.55p3nguinI can't get it to set my account code, but it accepts my password based on the hash.
20:43.00eduzimrscould be a problem?
20:43.19eduzimrs:q
20:44.01navaismodo you use the 'a' option too?
20:44.08p3nguinI didn't.
20:44.32p3nguinI didn't want to set the account code to the password.  That seems silly.
20:45.09eduzimrsi didnt
20:46.30navaismohum, why dont use an agi to search in a DB the pass and set the name attached to that pin?
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20:48.31p3nguinIt makes more sense to use the app_authenticate if it will just work right.
20:50.16eduzimrsyeap
20:51.20eduzimrsthe "a" option is to set the ACCOUNTCODE var with the password value?
20:51.33p3nguinThat's what it indicated to me.
20:51.46p3nguinI'll try it with the m option and see if it behaves differently.
20:52.11eduzimrsok
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20:55.19p3nguinoptions am made it set correctly from the file.
20:55.38eduzimrshum could u show ?
20:55.48p3nguinShow what?
20:56.11eduzimrshow is you string
20:56.18p3nguinWhat string?
20:56.32navaismothats what i say you -- ja-- ignore me np ¬¬
20:56.38eduzimrslike "exten => 411,2,Authenticate(/etc/asterisk/pass.txt,a)"
20:56.46p3nguinexten => 300,n,Authenticate(/var/lib/asterisk/passwd,am);
20:57.13eduzimrsand you file like "blha:hash"
20:57.43p3nguin762:81dc9bdb52d04dc20036dbd8313ed055
20:57.57p3nguinaccount code 762, hash for passwd 1234
20:58.01eduzimrsright ill try
20:59.36p3nguinAfter my authenticate line, I used:  exten => 300,n,Verbose(ACCOUNTCODE is ${CDR(accountcode)});
20:59.51ChannelZDoes anyone else have problems with ChanSpy on DAHDI channels (in my case analog) and using * to switch channels?
21:00.04p3nguinSo when I test it, I call 300, enter ins password 1234, then it prints my account code on the cli.
21:00.23eduzimrshumm
21:00.24eduzimrsomg
21:00.29eduzimrsdoesnt work for me
21:00.40p3nguinI'd guess you didn't do it like I did.
21:01.11eduzimrsill post
21:01.58p3nguinIt took me two tests.  One with option m to see that it didn't work, and one to use options am that did work.
21:03.09eduzimrshttp://pastebin.com/hXEaSCNQ
21:03.13eduzimrsi did too
21:03.40p3nguinWhat do you have on priority 1?
21:03.51p3nguinJust Answer()?
21:03.53eduzimrsyes
21:04.26p3nguinCan asterisk read /etc/asterisk/pass?
21:04.27eduzimrsur generating 128 bit hash?
21:05.03p3nguinThat's what md5 is.
21:05.05eduzimrsroot root perm
21:05.13p3nguinBut can asterisk READ it?
21:05.37eduzimrswithout "am" option and plain text password it works
21:05.40eduzimrsyeap
21:05.48eduzimrsso it reads
21:06.13QwellWhat password are you using?  The md5 you've used doesn't match any known numeral.
21:06.21Qwellie; are you creating it properly?
21:06.36eduzimrsyeap: echo -n1 1234|md5sum
21:06.37p3nguinThe one I pasted above is passwd 1234.
21:06.42p3nguin-n1?
21:06.51Qwell...
21:06.59p3nguinI gave you the hash for 1234 above.
21:07.03p3nguinI also told you how to generate the hash.
21:07.10QwellYou realize that the output for `echo -n1 1234` is "-n1 1234" ?
21:07.23p3nguin(1537.01) <p3nguin> echo -n 1111|md5sum
21:07.43eduzimrsyeap
21:07.50eduzimrsi did =
21:07.59eduzimrssupress n1 so?
21:07.59p3nguinSo I used echo -n 1234|md5sum and created my passwd hash.
21:08.08Qwellwhere are you getting the 1 from?
21:08.20p3nguinpulled directly from his ass, I'd imagine.
21:08.48eduzimrsoh
21:09.00eduzimrssry about that
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21:09.38p3nguinIt's like speaking Braille to a deaf person.
21:10.19eduzimrsahaha
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21:11.07eduzimrsi agree it was awful
21:11.34eduzimrsbut in the end worked!
21:11.45eduzimrsand tks for helping
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21:12.24ejadoes an asterisk reload affect current calls?
21:13.56leifmadsenno
21:13.59p3nguinDon't run reload.  Reload what you need to reload.  dialplan reload, sip reload, moh reload, voicemail reload
21:14.06leifmadsen+1
21:14.45p3nguinIf you run dialplan reload during a call, any changes to the extension of the current calls will be affected as the call progresses in dialplan, though.  I think that's pretty cool.
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21:22.32Hivep3nguin, you dont like the general reload?
21:22.44p3nguinNo, and neither should you.
21:23.13HiveI wasn't even aware that there was anything other than the "reload" command :X
21:23.20p3nguin~book
21:23.20infobotAsterisk: The Definitive Guide, 3rd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51734-3) available at http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596517342 - Asterisk: The Definitive Guide is released under a Creative Commons License (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/us/) and is available for reading online at http://ofps.oreilly.com/titles/9780596517342/ or ~buybook
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21:25.42senatorhi all. if i drop two call files in the spool directory for the pbx_spool, and those files specify the same dahdi channel (but different phone numbers), asterisk tries to make two calls at the same time.  i would have expected (incorrectly?) that asterisk would try one call after the other. can someone confirm what's supposed to happen? i was fairly sure i'd seen the one-after-the-other behavior
21:25.48senatorin the past.
21:26.18senatorthis is with asterisk 1.8.5.0
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21:30.31_trinecan anyone enlighten me why I see this from Asterisk >> Function MASTER_CHANNEL not registered
21:31.51navaismosenator i guess if one failed and you set the retry it will retry with your parameters
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21:32.28wdoekes2_trine: because func_channel is not loaded? module show like channel
21:32.36d_preston215How does High-Availability/Clustering work in AsteriskNOW?
21:33.19_trinewdoekes2, it does it everytime I dial a number but it still works
21:34.42senatornavaismo: retry does work, yes, so the call that failed will still happen later.  still, if a lot of files are placed in the spool directory at once, i should think they would eventually run out of retry time before they could all finish.  is pbx_spool not meant to line up calls using the same channel one after the other?
21:35.02ejathere is no voicemail reload which is what i need reloaded.  unless it reads the voicemail.conf file everytime?
21:36.03p3nguinmodule reload app_voicemail.so
21:36.39ejathanks!
21:36.50p3nguinvoicemail reload does exist in 1.8 branch.
21:36.53p3nguinjust for info
21:38.09navaismosenator i dont know
21:39.49navaismoif you have your dahdi chans in a group you can use rX where X is the group number
21:41.28senatornavaismo: i can put them into groups. can you tell me what the r is about?
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21:44.12navaismois for rotate the channels
21:44.17navaismoin a group
21:44.33navaismothe first call use chan 1 the next chan 2 and so on
21:44.48talntidAnyone interested in making a custom dialplan for me? I'll pay fairly for it. Basically, I want a custom speed-dial system.... they press 1-whatever for custom speed dials, * to setup... setup allows them to change the # and speed dial of everything... without changing the dialplan...
21:45.13Qwelltalntid: honestly, sounds like just a few minutes with func_odbc
21:45.27talntidi figured it's probably pretty simple
21:45.41Qwellor even astdn
21:45.43Qwellastdb*
21:45.53talntidastdb would likely be pretty useful :)
21:45.59talntidthat's how I was thinking of doing it
21:46.00Qwellmuch less setup required
21:46.56senatornavaismo: ok thanks
21:47.24Qwell*.,1,Read(myspeeddial,someprompt) ; *,2,Set(DB(speeddial/${EXTEN:1})=${myspeeddial})
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21:48.17Qwell1.,1,Set(dialnum=${DB(speeddial/${EXTEN:1})} ; 1.,2,Dial(Local/${dialnum}@somecontext)
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22:53.15dijibwhat is the best fax solution for * including fax to email
22:53.25p3nguinOver IP?
22:53.29dijibyeh
22:53.44p3nguinI'm pretty satisfied with my method, which uses fax for asterisk.
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22:53.49dijibi want to recieve and have it email me, and i want a sendto email address to send
22:54.02dijibi like out of the box methodes myself
22:54.11dijibthats one thing i want to achieve
22:54.41p3nguinhttp://pastebin.com/6RQV9nEx
22:54.41dijibhow do i make a ringing sound durring a call to indicate the call is ringing somewhere?
22:54.51p3nguinRinging()
22:55.37dijibthats it? lol
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22:55.51p3nguinRinging() sends the ringing indication to the other side.
22:56.17dijibremember that press 1 for.... or anything else. thing. after the person presses 1 i want it to ring till voicemail picksup
22:56.30dijibsup
22:56.54dijibother side is the callee or caller?
22:57.11p3nguinalways the caller
22:57.23dijibi thought i tried that and it didnt work.
22:57.28dijiblet me try again
22:57.29p3nguinAre you wanting to call someone and then play a ringing sound to them?
22:57.40dijibyes.
22:58.00dijiblike after you press 1, it is dead air till either i pickup or voicemail does
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22:58.04dijibfor like 20sec
22:58.18p3nguinRinging() sends the ringing indication.  If you want to play ringing sound, you can either use Ringing() followed by Wait(x) where x is the amount of seconds to ring, you can use use PlayTones(ring).
22:58.44dijibplaytones ring i think might be what i need
22:59.07p3nguinI use Ringing() then Wait(20) to play 20 seconds worth of ringing sound.
22:59.22pabelangerIs this over SIP?
22:59.24dijibwhat happens if i pickup durring that 20sec?
22:59.27dijibyes
22:59.29carrardijib, dial can also force the ringing
22:59.41dijibmaybe im using goto....
22:59.42p3nguinI don't know what that means "pickup durring that 20sec."
22:59.49carrar<PROTECTED>
22:59.50carrar<PROTECTED>
22:59.58p3nguinYou typically do not call someone and then play ringing sounds to that person.
23:00.08dijiblol
23:00.16pabelangerHonestly, you should avoid using Ringing() for SIP, and figure out why your devices are not ringing
23:00.31p3nguinBoth of you didn't read what he said.
23:00.39p3nguinHe wants to call someone and then play ringing sounds to them.
23:00.52carrar<dijib> like after you press 1, it is dead air till either i pickup or voicemail does
23:00.52dijibits not the device the call is going to. its the person on the line that is waiting for the device to be answered
23:01.12carrarassuming you press 1 and it dials someone
23:01.18p3nguinYou don't need to play ringing sounds for that.
23:01.32carrarobviously
23:01.37dijibwell i do as there is nothing till i pickup
23:01.42dijibi want it to sound like ringing
23:01.51p3nguinYou can call one person, and then when you dial another phone, it'll ring.
23:02.44pabelangerWell, if he is dialling over SIP, the far end should indicate 180 RINGING rather then asterisk generating it
23:03.04p3nguinI'd rather not have you calling out to ask someone to press a button, though.  That really pisses off a lot of people.
23:03.39p3nguinThat, and so does, *ring* (I answer) "Please hold for an important message..."
23:03.43dijibok someone calls me from landline --> ITSP --> *, they are told to press 1, it then dials my devices (they ring) but the caller has no sound indicating the lines ringing or what its doing. until i pickup or voicemail does... make sense?
23:03.56p3nguinThat makes sense.
23:04.21p3nguinNow figure out why your devices aren't sending the ringing indicator, like pabelanger said.
23:04.51dijibwait the device sends the line the ring?
23:04.55dijibreally?
23:05.10p3nguinIf you call me, my phone is supposed to give you the ringing indicator.
23:05.38gogascathat looks like a progress indicator issue
23:06.08dijibso now im wondering if its * or pap2t
23:06.19gogascai think what happens is that call already in a connected state
23:06.32gogascaso "ringing" should be played from the source
23:06.37gogascasorry destination
23:06.40gogascaremote device
23:06.40dijibgogasca, i think your right
23:06.46p3nguinI think his left.
23:06.52gogascahaha
23:06.54dijiblol
23:07.10dijibok i think p3nguin is right in that left case
23:07.11p3nguinhis right, his left... it's nearly the same thing.
23:07.21pabelangerno, the actually ring tone is from your local phone.  The far end will send a RINGING event, which causes your local phone to generate the tone
23:07.31gogascanot really
23:07.32gogascain this case
23:07.37gogascaalreayd went to a connect state
23:07.47gogascawhen they instruct caller to press 1
23:07.55dijibyes its already c onnected inb4 the IVR saying press 1
23:08.12gogascaso keeps in connected state then asterisk should play back a ringing file
23:08.19p3nguinIf I call my main number and get a prompt, the line has already been answered.  If I then dial an extension which dials a phone, I get ringing sounds again.
23:08.39dijibok so playtones(ring) ? do i need a timeout? match voicemail timeout?
23:08.51pabelangerapp_disa
23:09.02dijibapp_disa is installed
23:09.14pabelangerwell, maybe not...
23:09.34p3nguinYou don't need disa for that.
23:09.47p3nguinYou don't need disa in a lot of cases where people insist on using disa.
23:10.30p3nguinFigure out if there's no 180 Ringing indicator when you hit 1 to dial the phone.
23:10.36p3nguinThere should be one.
23:10.37pabelangerya, ignore what I said about disa
23:10.44pabelangerneeds food
23:10.45gogascano pengu3in
23:10.47pabelanger&
23:10.50gogascarining was way before
23:10.57gogascacall is already connected state
23:11.03p3nguinIf you Dial() a phone, you'd better get a 180 Ringing from it.
23:11.06gogascathere is a rining from * to new extension
23:11.09p3nguinIf you don't, it's fucked up.
23:11.14gogascabut not from * to remote end
23:11.21gogascathe issue is form * to remote end
23:11.22p3nguinRinging is Ringing.
23:11.38p3nguinIt sounds the same in either case.
23:12.01dijibyou two are making me dizzy
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23:12.47gogascayeah i know what the issue, just not sure how to fix it
23:13.05gogascaits a common no rining when transfer
23:13.10gogascaringing
23:13.22p3nguinYou could use the r dial option like carrar mentioned to force a ringing sound, but most sensible people do not like that option.
23:13.24dijibshould i try playtones?
23:13.26p3nguinno
23:13.36p3nguinRinging() right before the Dial()
23:13.40p3nguinSee what happens.
23:13.47p3nguinThat'll send the 180.
23:14.05dijibim actually using that right now p3nguin and it doesnt do anything
23:14.27p3nguinDid you check for the 180 with and without it?
23:14.35dijibwhats a 180?
23:14.37dijib:/
23:14.41p3nguinRinging
23:15.42gogasca180 is the code for SIP for ringing
23:15.46gogascahey DJ
23:15.59gogascai have an ivr and works fine, let me see what im invoking
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23:16.06gogascawhen user hears rining
23:16.10gogascaafteri being transfer
23:16.14gogascait works fine 4 me
23:16.48p3nguinI just Dial() the phone requested.  I only sometimes don't get a ringing sound.
23:19.22gogascaDJ I connected to my IVR and then after 1 in asterisk logs I see this:
23:19.24gogasca<PROTECTED>
23:19.24gogasca<PROTECTED>
23:19.35gogascai use freepbx but concept is the same
23:20.03gogascaafter 1, the extension that i need to reack is 101
23:21.21p3nguinTypical for FreePBX to use the r option.
23:21.59p3nguinexten => 201,n,Dial(${DEVICE}/ringer=${ringer},30,w);
23:22.03p3nguinNotice there's no r.
23:25.05gogascaso DJ what are you using?
23:27.47gogascaher Mr DJ
23:28.34dijibim using CentOS6 *1.8x.x.xsomething
23:29.15dijiband the r option in dial doesnt work, the ringing() before dial doesnt work. and i put playtones after dial but that didnt work, but i think that was after.
23:29.30dijibafter where i needed it
23:31.02p3nguinNothing after the dial ever gets used unless you use the g option.
23:32.02dijibis that for goatsie?
23:32.08dijibor go to?
23:32.10ChannelZyes.  yes it is.
23:34.46dijibok another thing i was wondering is in MOH can you have mpg123 make a connection to a stream on demand instead of all the time.
23:34.56p3nguinyes
23:35.03dijibhmmm
23:35.16dijibhow would one do that?
23:35.26p3nguinwell, wait
23:35.43dijib(600)
23:35.55p3nguinSomeone was talking about this recently.
23:36.08p3nguinI think they ended up being able to do it.
23:36.11dijibi tried to a couple days back
23:36.41p3nguinI don't worry about it streaming all the time, so I never bothered to try it.
23:38.30dijibi just want to also keep the CPU load down on this p4 laptop im using as a server
23:39.34p3nguinIf one mpg123 stream is costing you much CPU, you've got bigger problems.
23:39.56dijibi dont, i just want to keep everything as minimal as i can
23:40.17dijibplus i want multiple available streams
23:40.56dijiband i have had instances where mpg123 crashes and if it was realtime execution of mpg123 it should always have the stream baring the internet is down
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23:46.11dijibwhats the site with the logs from this IRC channel>?
23:46.19dijibim going to try and find this p3nguin
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23:51.07dijibim thinking everyone went for dinner
23:53.28talntidnot me
23:53.31talntidsunflower seeds for me :P
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