IRC log for #asterisk on 20110526

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00:53.34jaybinks_can someone give me a test call, to check my new pbx ... sip:asterisk-test@sip.itslenny.com:5060
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01:00.14WiretapWorkjaybinks_, you'll need to provide an ISN or ENUM if you want most people here to bother :P
01:03.48jaybinks_oh... how would you suggest I do that ?
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01:25.53WiretapWorkjaybinks_, with the power of google?
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02:04.49ShariffHi there
02:06.10ShariffMy adsl modem is handling my home telephony. I would like to use asterisk for this, but the phones have a rj11 connection, and thus are connected to the modem. can I configure asterisk to handle those phones, even though I do not have the phones directly connected to the asterisk box?
02:07.32WIMPyAsk your provider for your account details.
02:07.44WIMPyBut most won't tell you.
02:07.48bdfosterShariff, are you using AT&T?
02:08.12bdfosterthere are other ways of doing this as well, one of which is using an ATA and dropping service with your current provider
02:08.15WIMPyMaybe you can find some instruction with aunt google on how to extract them from the device.
02:08.28ShariffWIMPy: Actually I have my account details for my internet provider (also acts as a telephone service provider)
02:08.38Shariffbdfoster: Negative, I use a dutch isp
02:08.51WIMPyThe SIP accounts, not your PPP acount.
02:09.04bdfosteryea, as long as it's sip
02:09.14ShariffWIMPy: Aye, I have my sip account details
02:09.16WIMPyMost probably.
02:09.22bdfosterok, grab a few ata's
02:09.42WIMPyOk, great. Then remove them from the IAD and put them in to sip.conf.
02:09.45bdfosterthat'll take care of your house phones (you can use just one as well, but all are on the same extension
02:09.46Shariffbdfoster: doesn't my current adsl modem act as one? (fritz box 7340)
02:09.58bdfosteryou'll probably not be able to use it
02:10.18WIMPyAh, a FB, they are easy to manage.
02:10.22bdfosterplus ata's are so cheap you might as well grab a grandstream HT286 or SPA3102
02:10.32WIMPyWell. Compared to if you don;t have access, that is.
02:11.08WIMPyNot that I'm a fan of AVM, but the FB might be the better choice.
02:11.25Shariffbdfoster: most likely I will not be able to manage my home phones using asterisk while the phones are connected to the fritzbox?
02:11.43bdfostercorrect but I'm not familiar enough with fritzbox
02:11.55bdfosterusually it's not accessible
02:12.06ShariffWIMPy: Could you point me to some resources, how to go about this? I'm extremely new ;)
02:12.11WIMPyI don't see why that shouldn't work.
02:12.14bdfostereasy solution: buy a $30 HT286
02:12.28Shariffbdfoster: checking into that now
02:12.54bdfosterI use them, I have subscribers of mine who use them, and I don't get complaints
02:12.56WIMPyThe only cahallange I see is the usual NAT stuuf and not letting the FB interfere with Asterisks external communication.
02:13.28Shariffnods
02:13.42WIMPyShariff: As I already wrote: You remove your providers SIP accounts from the FB and set them up in Asterisk instead.
02:13.59ShariffIsn't it also a bit silly.. the modem gets the calls (is capable of handling them) forwards them to asterisk, who in turn connects to the internet using the same modem?
02:14.08WIMPyYou might have to use a non-standard port, I'm not sure on that,
02:14.39WIMPyThen you can set up local Accounts in Asterisk to connect the FB to.
02:14.48ShariffWIMPy: That would get the SIP working on the asterisk box... but what about phone control? they are physically connected to the FB, or am I misunderstanding you?
02:15.08WIMPyBut you could also do ith the other way raund, and let th FB stay at the front and connect Asterisk via SIP to the FB.
02:15.53ShariffWIMPy: With that, the best way to go is probably to physically connect the phones to the asterisk box right?
02:16.13WIMPyWhat kind of phones?
02:16.29ShariffThe ones now connected to the FB (home analog phones)
02:16.44WIMPyIf you have hardware to do so, yes.
02:16.49Shariffnods
02:16.58bdfoster(which is expensive)
02:17.33bdfosterand the reason why you use ATA's
02:17.35ShariffIf I do want to go down that road.. hooking up the phones to the asterisk box.. what would be the best pci card to do that? just for home use that is.. I've seen a LONG list of pci adapters.. so it's a kinda tree/forest thing?
02:17.54ShariffAhh.. ata's solve the need for a pci-adapter, in simple usages?
02:18.00bdfosteryes
02:18.07bdfosteryou dont want a pci card
02:18.17bdfosteryou want an ATA
02:18.18WIMPyYour FB is (amongs others) an ATA.
02:18.29bdfostercorrect ^^ what he said
02:19.29Shariffis processing info :)
02:20.32bdfosterATA = analog telephone adapter
02:20.36bdfosterfwiw
02:20.36ShariffDo you know of any resources that might explain my case: managing my home analog phones trhough an ata ?
02:20.51bdfosteryou need to be more specific
02:21.01WIMPyI'm sure the voip related forums are full of that.
02:21.05ShariffSorry, I'm trying to be.. this is just very new to me )
02:21.23WIMPyBut I'm not so sure about the quality of the information found there.
02:21.38ShariffBasically, how I would need to set up asterisk in order to use the phones connected to an ata, and not to the asterisk box itself
02:21.50bdfosterare you talking about configuring the ATA to use asterisk?
02:22.16bdfosterShariff, you're confusing yourself as well as all of us
02:22.33ShariffI'm really sorry, I'm not trying to confuse you :)
02:22.52bdfosterit's alright, just trying to translate
02:22.56Shariff:D
02:23.27ShariffI'm picturing the following setup: asterisk box <-> FritzBox Modem <-> home analog phone
02:23.28WIMPyYou just divert the connection from the FB to your provider through Asterisk.
02:23.48ShariffI am looking for a resource describing that situation, to configure asterisk to use the home analog phone
02:24.02bdfosterok the ATA is just going to be on your local network
02:24.09Shariffnods
02:24.31ShariffAhhh and not connected to the internet (directly)?
02:24.39bdfosterso configuring the ATA to connect to * is about as trivial as connecting a softphone to *
02:24.42bdfostercorrect
02:24.50WIMPySo instead of provider-FB-phone you go provider-Asterisk-FB-phone.
02:25.05bdfoster^^what he said
02:25.33ShariffIt's dawning :D
02:25.45ShariffThanks a lot for the help!
02:25.55bdfosterthere are some settings you will have to look up depending on the model you choose and that has to do with impedence and a few other settings since you are not in the USA
02:26.04bdfostermost are set up for NA settings
02:26.24ShariffNA?
02:26.27bdfosteralso depends on the phones you use, you may not even have to do that
02:26.31bdfosterNA = north america
02:26.37ShariffAhh ok
02:26.49WIMPyhuh? He won't be changing anything at that end.
02:26.57bdfosteryea I just realized that lol
02:27.08ShariffSo I can disregard that? :D
02:27.22bdfosterdisregard the impedence and other settings
02:27.38Shariffok then :)
02:27.43bdfosterthat's if you are going to connect your analog land line to asterisk
02:27.50bdfosterbut you dont have one so no need
02:28.09bdfosterIve got a 3102 that I use for that, has both FXS and FXO
02:28.24bdfosterand the handytone but yea
02:28.45Shariffbdfoster: Nice.. I believe my FB also has FXS and FXO ports.. 2 FXS I think..
02:29.03bdfosterprolly only 2 FXS
02:29.09bdfosterline one, line two
02:29.13Shariffyes!
02:29.18ShariffYou know your stuff :D
02:29.29bdfosterI try lol
02:29.42WIMPyUsually 1 FXO and 2 (or seldom 3) FXS plus 1 or 2 S0.
02:29.59bdfosterwith ATA's on an ADSL modem?
02:29.59Shariffnods
02:30.06bdfosterthat's new
02:30.07bdfoster...
02:30.13WIMPyOnly the very latest models come without line interfaces.
02:30.14ShariffWhat's s0?
02:30.28WIMPyISDN BRI
02:30.33ShariffAhh duh
02:30.42bdfosterI'm in USA though, wacky europeans lol
02:31.01Sharifflol
02:31.27bdfosterive got an AT&T VDSL modem/router/ATA here
02:31.27ShariffThanks a lot for the help and patience.. sorry for the confusion :D
02:31.28WIMPyJa, we already found out the hard way that we actually didn't want to go where you want to go :-)
02:31.36bdfosterhehe
02:31.49bdfosteryea well I can understand I used to live in Italy
02:32.12ShariffWIMPy: translating: you learned the hard way not to go where I am trying to go?
02:32.28WIMPyNo, where you are.
02:32.34ShariffAhh
02:32.48bdfosterI'm so confused
02:32.49ShariffOh dear lord.. I just noticed the time.. no wonder my brain works at half speed
02:32.57Shariffit's 4.30 am
02:33.01WIMPy:-)
02:33.21ShariffThanks and sleep well (when you get there) :D
02:33.31bdfosterShariff, anyway, hope everything works out. come back when you get somewhere
02:33.42ShariffI will thanks!
02:33.45Shariffbye bye
02:33.48bdfostercya
02:34.09WIMPyLucky guy for having his account details.
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02:35.00bdfosteryea, I can't get anything from AT&T, so I have to use the 3102
02:35.03bdfosterwhich sucks big time
02:35.22bdfosterI'm gonna drop them as soon as I get the number ported
02:35.28WIMPySame problem here. And it sucks big time.
02:35.56bdfosterfunny thing is I have 9 trunks
02:36.36bdfosterbut that damn landline is a) easy to remember and b) has been my phone number for too long to let it just go
02:42.26WIMPyI guess I should get a real land line again.
02:43.35WIMPyBut that won't mix very well with my internet needs, tariff wise. :-(
02:44.53bdfosteronly reason why I would need a landline anymore is a backup
02:45.19bdfostereven then, ill probably end up using GSM before I get another landline
02:45.23WIMPyI'd like something that just works.
02:53.22bdfosterI like problems, they keep me in business ;-)
02:59.32ChannelZplease swipe your credit card at the door
03:01.47ketashmm
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03:03.37ketasare they switching off analog lines there too?
03:04.19WIMPyguesses that happens everywhere.
03:04.54ketasvoip over adsl2+ here
03:05.16WIMPySame here.
03:05.28WIMPyBut the cheapest possible IAD, off course.
03:05.55WIMPyIt's not even up to what's in the contract :-(
03:06.06ketaswell not exactly _here_ since i haven't asked for it
03:06.11ketasshould maybe
03:06.35bdfosteru can get a real analog line here still
03:06.37ketasmore asterisk hacking :P
03:06.44bdfostermost do
03:07.31WIMPyOnly from the ex monopolist here.
03:08.21WIMPyI think none of the others have ever done analog.
03:08.53ketashere my isp provides iptv, i guess that all who want anything changed are switched to voip
03:09.45WIMPyThat's again something I should have, but don't get.
03:09.52WIMPyBut then, I'm not really interested.
03:10.19bdfosteryea iptv here
03:10.38bdfosterbetter than dish...
03:10.45ketaslike when you have phone and get iptv+phone, your phone will be voip
03:10.54bdfostersame here
03:10.57WIMPyInterestinly enough iptv is only available where real phone lines were available.
03:11.19bdfosterreal lines still availabe here
03:11.25ketasthis is private house so only copper lines
03:11.39ketasno overhead fiber planned in next years
03:11.49ketasoverhead fiber is pita anyway
03:11.50WIMPyFrom the carrier I'm with, they have never been available im my area.
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03:14.41ketasnot really going to switch places because here it's only 16/1 and there, where people are packed tightly together it will be 100/20
03:15.19WIMPyI'm just 50m away from VDSL.
03:15.36WIMPyThe other end of the yard can get it.
03:16.02ketashah!
03:16.09WIMPyBut I'm not wired up to the same MDF, which is 750m away, but another one in the opposite direction which is 1200m away. Suxx.
03:16.27ketasworkaround?
03:16.29ketas:p
03:16.55WIMPyJa, I thought about putting a wire across the yard.
03:17.43ketasno vdsl here yet
03:18.07ketasi should be 500m away
03:18.34ketasnot sure about length of wires
03:39.16SithReeI'm exploring the possibility of using asterisk for a small 5 user office, with I think 1 analog line, possibly 2
03:40.03SithReewhat hardware would I need to build a pbx/vm machine?
03:41.35bdfosterif they are really stuck on using analog lines, it will cost them
03:41.58bdfosterto me, it's not worth the cost, imho
03:42.36pigpenA small pc with an audiocodes MP-112 fxo/fxs sip box
03:42.47bdfosterew
03:42.49pigpenuse a polycom phone of your choice
03:43.06bdfosterfrom what I heard quality sucks on those
03:43.15bdfosterI would only use digium or sangoma cards
03:43.26pigpencool.
03:43.46pigpenI have and I am running many digium cards.  FXO/FXS and many PRI cards.
03:43.48ketasonly analog?
03:43.55ketasno voip there?
03:44.05pigpenI have also deployed about 50 audiocodes....and have another 300 or so to go.
03:44.10pigpenquality is fine.
03:44.13pigpenno problems.
03:44.17ChannelZain't the MP-112 FXS?
03:44.32pigpenI think it is a dual...or maybe I am thinking of the MP114
03:44.56ChannelZhmm interesting
03:44.57pigpenI just deployed one...I'll look at the invoice.
03:45.00ChannelZmaybe it is dual
03:45.45bdfosteranyway, yea need ability to accept 2 FXO, then ip phones of your choice
03:45.59pigpensorry:  AudioCodes - MediaPack 114 - 2FXS, 2FXO (MP114/2S/2O/SIP)
03:46.06SithReeI need to check w/ the ISP about VoIP, so for now, just analog
03:46.26pigpenthe only problem I have with audiocodes is disconnection.
03:46.30bdfosterSithRee, it would save you a bit if you can get away with voip
03:46.47bdfosterreliability goes down unless there's a backup
03:46.48pigpenit happens in certain areas.
03:47.03pigpenI am fighting three right now in San Antonio
03:47.28pigpensomething about the switches in SA that disconnect doesn't detect the call drop.
03:47.32bdfosteryea I just can't do landlines anymore
03:47.41bdfosterI dont recommend them to my clients
03:47.51bdfosterand yes, I know that makes me sound like an idiot
03:47.53bdfosterlol
03:48.01pigpenbdfoster, I am all for PRI's....  :-)
03:48.25bdfosteryea I dont deal with anything needing something like that lol
03:48.36bdfosteranyone**
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03:49.03pigpenbut hopefully my latest purchase will help me figure out what dam ATT is doing.... Fluke TS52 Pro
03:49.17bdfosterohh nice
03:49.27pigpenyeah, for $315 it better be.
03:49.29joshaidanpigpen: something not detecting the voltage drop?
03:49.48pigpenyeah.  Audiocodes MP114 4 port FXO.
03:50.04pigpenI figure if I can figure one out, I can fix the other two locations.
03:50.11ketaspigpen: i thought you meant 1000V insulation tester at first...
03:50.19ketassurely that too can help att
03:50.22ketas:P
03:50.27joshaidanhmm...
03:50.37pigpenI was balancing a multimeter, holding the leads, a cell phone and watching the voltage and I saw the drop.
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03:50.45pigpenbut it only dropped to about 1.2V
03:50.53joshaidanI seem to recall having a similar issue years ago with an audiocode where we'd get VM messages with dialtones on them
03:50.55pigpenI was thinking I would see 0V
03:51.03pigpenjoshaidan, right.
03:51.19joshaidanI'll see if my brain remembers what I did to fix it
03:51.23bdfosterjoshaidan, I get that on my spa3102
03:51.41bdfosteruser error maybe, or damn ATT ata sucks
03:51.55pigpenI have tried polarity reversal ( I know now it is not doing this), current disconnect, you name it, nothing works by itself or in combo.
03:52.23joshaidanCan you adjust the length of time of the voltage drop?
03:52.43pigpenI setup an absolute time out just in case, and it takes care of 99% of the issues, just long vm's.
03:52.51pigpenjoshaidan, I didn't see any...
03:53.02pigpendevice is rebooing.
03:53.07pigpens/rebooing/rebooting
03:53.52joshaidanI remember once we delivered some POTS lines to a customer's PBX using an Adtran TA90x. Their PBX wouldn't drop the call because we weren't sending the disconnect (voltage drop).
03:54.28WIMPyAnalog is evil!
03:54.29pigpenyeah, in call is like 48v, then it drops.
03:54.34pigpenWIMPy, yes, it is.
03:54.42joshaidanThat took a long time to resolve because I thought it was a setting on the adtran when it turned out to be an MGCP field wasn't being sent to signal the disconnect.
03:54.55ketasanalog lines are just too crappy to debug
03:55.23bdfosterwhich is why bdfoster likes voip lol
03:55.32bdfosterone reason anyway
03:55.47WiretapWorkdebugging analogue lines requires a good ear
03:55.53ketas:P
03:55.56pigpenI think that testing analog lines takes knowledge of the local telco, the right test equipment (I hope), and the equipment conf'd correctly....in therory.
03:55.57joshaidanOur problem is that we think too much in terms of protocols rather than electricity and physics :)
03:56.01bdfosterdebugging voip requires good eyes
03:56.25WiretapWorkI have been tshooting analogue lines a lot longer than I have voip :P
03:56.29ketasvoip is pretty high layer too
03:56.41bdfosterand I'm still young
03:56.53bdfosterso, no, don't really deal much with analog
03:57.00pigpenhmm..I see "Reorder Tone Duration"  in seconds, set to 255
03:57.24joshaidanI don't think that would be the voltage drop setting you're looking for
03:57.36pigpenyeah, I think that is for overseas.
03:58.02pigpenI wonder if "Answer Supervision" has anything to do with "Disconnect Supervision".....bad translation?
03:58.03joshaidanI think that signals the "your call failed now hangup the stupid phone" sound you here
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03:58.13joshaidanDisconnect supervision may be it
03:58.59pigpenoddly enough, anything with "Disconnect and Answer Supervision" is under "Sip Advanced Parameters"
04:00.23pigpenyeah, nothing about disconnect time.
04:00.46ketasadsl link to moon
04:02.52pigpen<PROTECTED>
04:04.00ketasnah, quote from fbsd ipfw manpage
04:04.05ketassomehow came up
04:08.14pigpenCurrentDisconnectDuration
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04:12.07pigpenbut, found this in an old post, cannot find it in the newer firmware
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06:25.35wdoekes2good morning
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06:56.26dinesh___hi all, it seems that my mobile provider is blocking data from my mobile -> asterisk if I do a Dial() forwared prior to Answer() the call
06:56.51dinesh___i tried with mobile provider and the exact same extension actually worked
06:57.07dinesh___I read that Dial() would automatically answer the channel
06:57.35dinesh___but i would actually like to try a kind of "background Dial()", that would not send anything to the caller
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06:58.08kaldemardinesh___: you read wrong. Dial does not answer.
06:58.54dinesh___well it's on http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+cmd+Dial
06:59.07dinesh___"The originating channel that triggered this Dial command is then Answered, if necessary, and the two channels are connected together ("bridged") allowing a conversation to take place between them. "
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06:59.51dinesh___i'll try to find the authoritative doc
07:00.31dinesh___https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Application_Dial
07:00.32kaldemardinesh___: the previous sentence is relevant.
07:00.56dinesh___"As soon as one of the requested channels answers, the originating channel will be answered, if it has not already been answered."
07:01.02kaldemar"The first channel that answers "wins", and all the other outgoing channels are hung up." <---
07:01.24dinesh___yep, but in my case i'm only calling a single channel
07:01.40dinesh___no parallel ring
07:01.55kaldemarwhen the destination channel answers, the caller is noticed and the channels are bridged.
07:02.24kaldemarif the destination channel does not answer, the calling channel does not get an answer indication.
07:04.13dinesh___yep right, but actually my problem is that with Swisscom (mobile -> asterisk does not let any audio go through), this bridge is only one-way, wheras with Orange it works in both ways
07:04.54kaldemaris early media what you're trying to achieve?
07:05.40kaldemarearly media as in the caller gets audio from asterisk before the call is answered?
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07:09.48dinesh___well what i am actually trying to achieve is a simple call redirection
07:10.45dinesh___I call number A (which is my local SIP landline number), which then in turn calls number B through a cheap SIP provider
07:11.16kaldemarand the issue is?
07:11.59dinesh___the issue is that, with one mobile provider it works perfectly fine, but with another one, I can only hear what B says, but B can't hear me
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07:12.42kaldemaruse directmedia=no for the peers in sip.conf.
07:17.22Russdirectmedia is teh awesome!
07:17.27Russoh, wait
07:17.32RussI'm thinking of earlymedia
07:21.14sxpertthat's because of stupid NATs all over
07:21.42sxpertalso, directmedia=yes tends to make police listen-in systems less efficient ^^
07:24.59kaldemarsends sxpert some foil
07:25.23cneb3000good morning sunshine
07:25.44Russthats why I use IAX2, that way the police aren't put through any undue stress or trouble and can have time to make a donut run
07:25.59Russpolice who have time to make donut runs are in better moods
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08:12.59dinesh___thanks kaldemar, directmedia=no fixed the issue
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08:14.11Polysicshello
08:14.32irrootTLS + SRTP is also police friendly ;)
08:14.43PolysicsSIP call goes up, asterisk says packet2packet bridging up, no other warnings, but no audio on both sides
08:14.49Polysicswhat could i start looking at?
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08:15.34cneb3000Polysics: What did each side negotiate their codecs as?
08:15.53Polysicscneb3000, that's the information i wanted to look for - where is it, please?
08:16.02Polysicssip debug? asterisk is 1.6.2
08:16.25cneb3000personally i'd run a wireshark trace. but i think sip debug might contain it.
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08:17.02cneb3000benefit of a wireshark trace is it will capture the RTP stream (the audio bit) so you can play it back if there is any
08:17.03kaldemarmatter of preference, sip debug will show the SIP headers and SDP too.
08:17.12Polysicsi do not have access to the side that has problems (100 km away) - will try with sip debug
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08:17.48Polysicsi never got how/if it is possible to get the debug for a single call separately
08:18.21kaldemarPolysics: enable debug by ip or by peer
08:18.45kaldemarPolysics: write sip set debug and hit tab, you'll get the options
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08:22.23dinesh___when can I expect to see the dialplan function ACG() (http://www.asterisk.org/docs/asterisk/trunk/functions/agc) available in AsteriskNOW ?
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08:32.19kaldemardinesh___: when asterisknow has asterisk 1.6.1 or newer. don't know what 1.6.X branch it has at the moment, but i'd be suprised if it was not 1.6.2.
08:33.14kaldemardinesh___: also assuming that asterisknow istallation has func_speex.so which provides AGC.
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08:40.26Polysicsif two clients can't agree on any codec, does the call still get bridged?
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08:40.40Polysicsi got 15k lines of sip debug to sift through :-D
08:41.22cneb3000it does still bridge, but just no media
08:42.22WIMPySo what gets bridged then, if it's not media?
08:51.12cneb3000the two streams of media :)
08:51.20cneb3000so.. lets say one side wants g729 the other g711
08:51.27cneb3000eventually they wont agree - but they just send it anyway
08:51.31cneb3000they just wont hear each other
08:53.49irrootloving this "micro" machines small atom box with asterisk
08:56.52Polysicsso that is probably the problem i have here
08:57.00Polysicsok, i sent the sip debug to the experts
08:57.03Polysicsi will read it later too
08:57.13Polysicsbut i still do not know what i am looing for :-D
08:59.01cneb3000honestly... Wireshark is the only way
08:59.02cneb3000http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9398
08:59.03cneb3000;)
08:59.39cneb3000although, i'm sure a lot of people will favour the text based logging of SIP in asterisk, you can make it visual in wireshark. just makes it quicker me thinks,.
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09:15.26nicola_pavhello. i have a lots of those messages: Unknown RTP codec 126 received from '0.0.0.0
09:15.34nicola_pavhow do i stop them please?
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09:16.12cneb3000nicola_pav: which version of Asterisk are you running?
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09:16.23nicola_pavcneb3000: 1.4
09:17.25cneb3000to anyone smarter than me... wasn't that a bug in 1.4
09:17.26cneb3000^^^
09:17.55cneb3000"recieving unkown RTP Codec from unkown soures'
09:21.09nicola_pavcneb3000: so its a bug?
09:21.24cneb3000nicola_pav: Maybe.. see --> http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-bugs/2010-August/085286.html
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09:24.38nicola_pavcneb3000: ok, thanks a lot
09:25.11cneb3000nicola_pav: No problem! try upgrading asterisk to a newer build of 1.4 (1.4.11.5?) and see if it helps
09:25.47cneb3000sorry that was dumb - 1.4.41*
09:25.55cneb3000face palm
09:26.23nicola_pavi will try and see how it goes
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09:26.38schmidtshello
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09:29.53cneb3000howdy schmidts
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09:56.51CareBear\hi all! is there some nice way to add extremely simple messaging into asterisk?
09:56.53CareBear\over SIP
09:56.57CareBear\I am thinking
09:57.32CareBear\or, well, to begin with I just want to parse out a particular header from a server that my asterisk registers with
09:57.48CareBear\passing that on will be a later issue
09:59.26kaldemarasterisk doesn't support SIP messaging outside a call yet.
10:01.31CareBear\okey
10:01.41CareBear\first step - grabbing the special header?
10:03.00kaldemarmodify chan_sip.c if you're talking about a registration dialog :P
10:03.23kaldemaror set up a proxy in between.
10:03.32CareBear\yes it might be that it only comes back on REGISTER replies
10:03.35CareBear\hm proxy
10:03.37CareBear\like what?
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10:06.51kaldemarlike kamailio or opensips
10:07.02CareBear\I talked to kamailio at LinuxTag
10:07.07CareBear\well, people from :)
10:07.18CareBear\it seems like not the right thing
10:07.23CareBear\how thin is opensips?
10:08.13kaldemaropensips is another fork of openser, like kamailio.
10:08.21kaldemartake a peek at this: http://images.tmcnet.com/expo/astricon/presentations/thurs/Thursday_CiraB_S3.pdf
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10:09.27CareBear\.pdf sounds like not so thin :)
10:09.44CareBear\I was rather thinking 250 lines of C code
10:09.45CareBear\;)
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10:14.02cneb3000CareBear: Why are you worried about it being thing? OpenSIPS is pretty capable !
10:16.08cneb3000thing..? thin* :)
10:16.30CareBear\I don't want another service
10:16.39CareBear\I just want to tap this one header
10:19.46kaldemarwhat do you want to do with the information in the header?
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10:23.27cneb3000requested a fax for asterisk license twice now and it's not been emailed through >_<
10:23.38kaldemarreading a header would be quite a small change to handle_response_register in chan_sip.c
10:36.16CareBear\kaldemar : sounds perfect.
10:36.54CareBear\is there also already some common outlet for $stuff that I could use?
10:37.20CareBear\and which is a bit configurable so that I can get this particular $stuff into a particular $outlet?
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10:59.19cneb3000Is fax a big deal is the USA? Do businesses actually use it much?
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11:08.13Chainsawcneb3000: Finance departments like faxes, yes.
11:08.38Chainsawcneb3000: Because you automatically have an indisputable written record that your message was printed on the other end.
11:08.57Chainsawcneb3000: It's as good as a registered letter, and you can call in an expert witness from say... Canon, to authenticate the TX report.
11:09.41cneb3000I see!
11:09.45cneb3000Thanks
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11:11.25Chainsawcneb3000: Also, pardon me for being blunt, accountants hate change. So your best bet is to get T38 passthrough working so that the existing fax machine coexists with VoIP, rather then implementing it as an e-mail gateway.
11:12.50cneb3000that was the plan!
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11:13.44CareBear\In Germany you must send fax to register a domain name under .de.
11:14.15irrootcneb3000 you welcome to try the T.38 gateway im working on
11:14.31cneb3000if you want me to give it a 'test run' im more than happy?
11:16.21irrootsvn co http://svn.digium.com/svn/asterisk/team/irroot/t38gateway-1.8
11:16.35cneb3000I'm on 1.8.4, thats fine right?
11:16.53irroot1.8.4 has some bugs in it still
11:17.30irroot1.8.5-rc1 will have the fixes
11:19.18irrootthe issues #19251 and  #19521 are required
11:19.48irrootthe issues #19251 and  #19215 are required
11:19.53irroottypo sorry
11:20.21devyllhello guys. suddently randome ongoing colls are interrupted due to strange errors (notice: pri got event: HDLC Bad FCS; and Warning: Yellow alarm on channel 1); extensive logs at http://asterisk.pastebin.ca/2069378; does anybody have any ideeas ?
11:20.36cneb3000irroot: I'll have a play and let you know how I get on. Thanks.
11:21.04irrootlook at t38modem / gnugk to work with ooh323
11:21.21irroothave hylafax working fine with it
11:21.37irrootalso linksys 2102 T.38
11:22.04irrootno other devices tested by me but should work if compat with chan_sip
11:23.16cneb3000i'll try tommorow buddy and let you know :)
11:23.27irrootthx its queued for 1.10
11:24.02irrootmnicholson is helping test it think we very close
11:24.31irrootill maintain the 1.8 branch once its released in 1.10 as i have customers using it
11:24.51cneb3000anything I can do to help :)
11:26.49irrootits most appreciated
11:27.04devyllso.. any ideeas ?
11:27.29devyllI mean... any known issues ? if not I will stop bugging ...
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11:28.16devyllit is strange that no modifications were made anywhere in the configuration of the server or the configration of asterisk/dahdi .. and suddenlty it started behaving like i described above :(
11:28.17cneb3000devyll: When you say 'interupted'.. do you mean terminated?
11:28.33jkroonis there someone from digium that can check up for me on why an order is being held up?
11:28.56devyllcneb3000 yes. sorry. the call is terminated
11:29.13cneb3000jkroon: I just had to wait a couple of hours for a free fax for asterisk code to come through.. if it's something like that maybe there's a delay?
11:29.25cneb3000jkroon: I was told customer services open in about 1 - 2 hours though.
11:29.39jkroon*sigh*
11:32.26cneb3000devyll: google says a 'yellow alarm' is what is generated when the side you're talking to looses 'loss of signal'?
11:33.29devyllcneb3000, and can that be related to the notice above the Yellow Alarm ? the one with GDLC Bad FCS ?
11:33.49devyllbecause, I can't know if it's the ethernet board, the cable, the E1 provider, ..
11:34.08irrootdevyll when i see that type of error 99% chance its telco
11:34.11jkrooncneb3000, yellow => we receive signal from remote end but they're not responding to our local sync requests.
11:34.25devyllgreat
11:34.28devyllI'll give them a call
11:34.42cneb3000jkroon: thanks :)
11:34.43irrootdevyll restart the NT the box that the E1 is connected too
11:34.52jkroondevyll, ??? could that affect BRI too?
11:35.09irrootand make sure you discon the battery backup pack
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11:47.45irrootcustomer logs a ticket wants to know what "std deviation" is [on the ACD reports we gen from queue_log ... cruel bugger i am sent him the wikipedia link
11:49.08cneb3000lazy!
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11:51.06leifmadsenirroot: that was probably the right move
11:52.04ectospasmone, two or three sigma?
11:52.17ectospasmI failed statistics the first two times around
11:52.40irrootsimple rule if you do not understand the report its not for you
11:53.25irrootectospasm besides we all know smoking is the leading cause of stats !!!
11:53.44ectospasmI thought it was drunk driving
11:54.01ectospasm...maybe drunken smoking?
11:54.15irrootnow that we need to study :P
11:54.32irrootget a UN pannel together and spend some $$$$
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11:58.12coppicestandard deviation is probably a statistic you'd derive in phone sex call centre
11:59.43irrootcoppice lol they a medical aid / insurance call centre
12:00.00irrootso yeah bout the same someone getting screwed :P
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12:03.45cneb3000http://xkcd.com/903/
12:03.45cneb3000<--- how relevant!
12:04.04tuxx-hehe :-)
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12:18.35QuantumSchemaAha!! I wonder if this would work....
12:18.51QuantumSchemaThe whole queue thing with not dialing an agent that is on a call....
12:19.08QuantumSchemaHow would the queue react if I set the agent's number to DND?
12:26.08fish-bulbQuantumSchema: should be the same way as if they were on a call
12:26.23fish-bulbI forget the message, but it's something like Busy Here
12:26.54QuantumSchemaNice! I think I'm gonna give it a go.
12:27.30QuantumSchemaI just wish there was a command like "QUEUESTATUS(agent,status)" similiar to "DEVSTATE()".
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12:32.17fish-bulbQuantumSchema: what are you needing it for?
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12:35.01QuantumSchemaI've got Asterisk queues with external agents that dial in to login/out & pause/unpause. The queue knows that when an agent is called from a queue call to set it's queue state to "In Use". If the agent calls out side or recieves a non queue call, the agent's queue state stays "Available". I'm trying to manipulate that part.
12:35.44QuantumSchemaAll calls from external agents are still routed through Asterisk so it's fully aware of the calls so that's where I'm trying to get the dialplan to manipulate the queue status for the agent.
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12:42.22fish-bulbI don't know of a way offhand to set the queue status non-queue calls, but could you add another step in the dialplan that set the device state?
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12:49.58irrootwhat to do with a customer who looses his RSA cert's password ....
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13:00.33russellbirroot: charge a fee?
13:01.13irrootshould charge a stupid tax :)
13:02.16irrootrussellb good to see you think SVN needs a kick
13:02.23russellbk
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13:05.38russellbirroot: stop breaking it
13:05.40russellb:-p
13:05.59irrootO:-)
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13:09.47imox1234Sending fake auth rejection for device""""""  whats that for an error?
13:10.24russellbasterisk got a request that it didn't match to any entry in sip.conf
13:10.33l2trace99man I just joined an my problems are fixed this group is awesome
13:10.36russellbit pretented it found one and requested authentication anyway
13:10.42imox1234russellb: hmm ok thanks
13:10.46russellbthat way it prevents someone from scanning for valid accounts
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13:12.43irrootimox1234 russellb  a good thing to do is have a iptables "tarpit" ratelimit sip packets from a ip
13:13.14imox1234irroot: ??
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13:14.01irrootuse RATELIM to help protect from a brute force attack
13:14.48irroot/etc/rc.d/rc.firewall:/sbin/iptables -A TARPIT -j RETURN -m state --state ESTABLISHED -m limit --limit 2/s --limit-burst 5
13:14.49irroot/etc/rc.d/rc.firewall:/sbin/iptables -A TARPIT -j RETURN -m state --state NEW -m limit --limit 2/s --limit-burst 5
13:14.49irroot/etc/rc.d/rc.firewall:/sbin/iptables -A TARPIT -j LOG -m recent --rcheck --seconds 30 --hitcount 20 --name RATELIM -m limit --limit 6/minute --limit-burst 1 --log-prefix "RATELIM " --log-level debug
13:14.49irroot/etc/rc.d/rc.firewall:/sbin/iptables -A TARPIT -j DENY -m recent --name RATELIM --update --seconds 30 --hitcount 20
13:14.49irroot/etc/rc.d/rc.firewall:/sbin/iptables -A TARPIT -j RETURN -m recent --name RATELIM --set
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13:47.49m4xxto prevent bruteforce on my system i use syslog then pipe the syslog to a perl script checking for failed registration strings, store the ip after that ip has x failed attempts in a period of y it firewalls them. can anyone see a reason not to do it this way?
13:48.18BMJAsterisk Developer Call starting in 10 minutes.  Bridge is open.  Info here:  https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Asterisk+Developer+Conference+Call
13:48.54errrm4xx: there is an app that does that.. I hope you didnt rewrite psad or fail2ban or one of the other solutions did you..
13:49.23m4xxno i addopted my old sshd/mail/ftp script
13:49.31m4xxwhich does the same thing
13:50.00m4xxand i thought fail2ban worked on a cron
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13:55.53cneb3000Can I join that call just to hear what goes on? or is it strictly Dev only?
13:56.15cneb3000or would that be considered a pain in the back side
13:56.56irrootcneb3000 its all porn shhh dont tell em i let the secret out
13:57.26BMJcneb3000: come join us. the more the merrier.
13:57.42m4xxapparently i wrote my script befor fail2ban existed ;D
13:57.49cneb3000cool, thanks guys. and if there's no explicit material I'll be very upset
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14:11.35justdaveI'm on 1.8.4.1...  for purposes of this problem I have three servers, A, B, and C.  Call originates on A, and is destined for C, but has to go through B to reach C.
14:12.25justdaveactually, not even getting that far...
14:12.45justdavethe call is made from a phone connected to A, routes to B over SIP
14:13.01justdaveand dies there, because it tries to use the phone's username instead of server A's username when connecting to B
14:13.17justdaveeven though there's a username= entry in the sip.conf entry for B in A's config
14:13.40justdaveso it gets an auth reject because the phone's username doesn't exist on B
14:14.28cneb3000justdave: what does it say under the 'type=' for each of the references in server B and As sip.conf files?
14:14.40justdavefriend
14:14.49Chainsawleifmadsen: Is 1.8.4.1 out?
14:14.59leifmadsenyes
14:15.04leifmadsenas posted at asterisk.org
14:15.30Chainsawleifmadsen: Cool, could you update the topic please?
14:15.35Chainsaw(That's really the only thing I look at)
14:16.10*** topic/#asterisk by leifmadsen -> Asterisk: The Open Source PBX and Telephony Platform (asterisk.org) -=- Asterisk 1.8.4.1 (2011/05/24), 1.6.2.18 (2011/04/26), 1.4.41 (2011/04/26), *-Addons 1.6.2.3, 1.4.13 (2010/01/14), dahdi-linux 2.4.1.2 (2011/04/11), dahdi-tools 2.4.1 (2011/03/03), libpri 1.4.11.5 (2010/11/22) -=- Visit the new official Asterisk wiki: wiki.asterisk.org -=- http://xkcd.com/806/
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14:16.45leifmadsendownloads page updated too
14:17.09justdave<PROTECTED>
14:17.10justdave[May 26 07:15:49] WARNING[23221]: chan_sip.c:13674 check_auth: username mismatch, have <237>, digest has <paris_sip>
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14:17.49leifmadsenjustdave: sounds like you have a configuration issue -- you probably need to look at 'fromuser'
14:18.56justdaveleifmadsen: yup, that fixed it, thanks.
14:19.01leifmadsennp
14:19.13justdaveI knew there had to be something like that missing. :)
14:19.31leifmadsen:)
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14:36.25DynamicfailWhy isn't 1.8 in the ubuntu repos?
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14:41.20neurosysUgh I hate customers.
14:42.27neurosysTook a guy off a hosted and onto SIP *, Cisco 79**, He says Call waiting used to work on 1 line without using the second line, alowing him to use 4 lines total. Now it doenst do that. I have CW set in the cisco.. but it always rolls over. Anyone know anything about this?
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14:44.44m_tadeuhi...what things can influence in the sound quality of a call? (well at least the most common)
14:45.53m_tadeuI'm only using SIP
14:46.18m_tadeuand from one day to another, the sound quality got sluggish
14:46.21jacc0codec conversion
14:46.48jacc0qos
14:46.51jacc0reinvite
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14:48.27jacc0speaker and mic volume
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14:48.31Bart-hi guys
14:48.41jacc0hi bart
14:48.46m_tadeuhi
14:49.27Bart-i have a queue problem
14:49.34Bart-i get always [May 26 16:48:49] WARNING[5440]: app_queue.c:4176 queue_exec: Unable to join queue 'q-1'
14:49.37Bart-any idears?
14:49.41Bart-i reload the module already
14:49.42leifmadsenBart-: not enough info
14:49.45Bart-ok
14:49.53Bart-the thing is i have a hotline
14:50.01leifmadsencould be anything really... invalid queue, joinempty=no and the queue is empty....
14:50.07leifmadsenthrows out random ideas
14:51.16jayteepicks up the random ideas that Leif threw away and claims them as his own
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14:51.36jaytee"I invented the Internet!!!"
14:51.54leifmadsenjaytee: that's impossible! I invented the internet!
14:52.36cneb3000you're both wrong. the internet has always been here.
14:52.57cneb3000>_>
14:53.02m_tadeujacc0: thanx...I'm checking those things
14:53.49Bart-ok sorry
14:54.00m_tadeubecause I invented it like......forever :)
14:54.13jayteeOn a related note, I've found that "An Inconvenient Truth" by Al Gore is a much cheaper cure for insomnia than Ambien or Lunestra and much, much cheaper with fewer side effects (mild nausea at the sound of Al's voice has been reported in < 20% of cases)
14:55.45jacc0Yeah!! it has been laying around on a dvd here on my desk for years
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14:56.15cneb3000Al Gore sent me on a road of paranoia ¬_¬
14:56.30cneb3000to paranoia*
14:57.23leifmadsenhttp://www.lyrics007.com/Harvey%20Danger%20Lyrics/Paranoia%20Lyrics.html
14:58.36anonymouz666if we are using real time sip peers
14:58.48anonymouz666without rtcachefriends=yes there's no way to know the SIP device state
14:58.51anonymouz666is that correct?
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15:00.37anonymouz666and if I have both servers 1 and 2, the queue is on 1 server, and the member is registered on 2 server with rtcachefriends=yes I will create a problem if the member on server 1 is SIP/
15:02.13leifmadsenanonymouz666: right because the device has to be in memory in order to track the device state
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15:02.27leifmadsenanonymouz666: you need distributed device state if the peers are remote
15:02.36leifmadseneither use openAIS or the XMPP method (in 1.8)
15:02.56leifmadsene.g. peers are on one asterisk box, but the queue resides on a separate asterisk box
15:03.49anonymouz666yeah but Queue() will have to call Local/ members not SIP/. Because SIP/ will search in memory of the queue separate box.
15:04.10anonymouz666and If I use Local/ will lost pause states etc.
15:05.17leifmadsenanonymouz666: that's not a problem either, because you just tell the Local channel to use the state of the SIP device associated with the Local channel
15:06.41anonymouz666I don't know if I understand
15:07.06leifmadsenlike in queues.conf sample:     ;member => Local/1000@default,0,John Smith,SIP/1000
15:07.43m_tadeuif I could restrict the coded choice to only one coded, which should I choose?
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15:08.45anonymouz666ahhh understand it !
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15:12.50leifmadsenm_tadeu: codec you mean?
15:13.06leifmadsenm_tadeu: that depends on your bandwidth requirements and such, but I'm a fan of G.711u
15:14.15m_tadeuleifmadsen: *coded in deed :) well I have a limitation of 3 codecs[gsm/ulaw/alaw]
15:14.33leifmadsenI like ulaw if your network will allow it
15:14.37leifmadsenI don't like the sound of gsm
15:15.06Chainsawleifmadsen: Particularly with hold music.
15:15.11leifmadsenamen
15:15.23Chainsawleifmadsen: Vio*white noise*lin.
15:15.25leifmadsenI mean, I use G722 quite a bit, but not everything supports it yet
15:15.46m_tadeuChainsaw: hehe nice description
15:16.01leifmadsenI've actually had customers complain about the use of g722 in their network because calls "sound weird"
15:16.09leifmadsenI respond with, "that's because it sounds better...."
15:16.18leifmadsenpeople are funny
15:16.24m_tadeu:)
15:16.30Chainsawleifmadsen: Well, there is a failure mode with G722 where you get the wrong sample rate.
15:16.39Chainsawleifmadsen: Which does sound very robotic and artificial.
15:16.41leifmadsenI expected the reaction to be, "omg! this new phone system sounds amazing!"
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15:16.48leifmadsenChainsaw: oh that's not the problem at all though :)
15:16.53leifmadsenthey don't like how "clear" it sounds
15:17.00Chainsawleifmadsen: Oh, right.
15:17.15leifmadsenit was my *facepalm* moment
15:17.17Chainsawleifmadsen: I can't seem to find a proper way to enable it here, for handset-to-handset calls.
15:17.22coppiceleifmadsen: there are genuine negative issues with G.722. the background comes over much better, which sometimes conveys embarrassing things
15:17.47leifmadsencoppice: true enough, but in this situation it's all open cubicals
15:17.53leifmadsenthat was already a bit of an issue
15:18.15leifmadsenit was just an odd reaction I didn't expect ;)
15:19.02m_tadeuwhat are your thoughts about alaw?
15:19.11coppicemany people will insist that G.711 is as hi-fi as you can get, and that its not compressed
15:20.54anonymouz666m_tadeu: alaw/ulaw is nice to use over LAN
15:20.59anonymouz666that's my opinion
15:22.10coppiceits 2011. over a LAN you should be looking at something better than G.711
15:22.26anonymouz666speex then
15:23.53anonymouz666coppice: I should be looking something that the clients supports hehe
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15:25.04coppicethen look at clients which support G.722. there are plenty of them now
15:25.39anonymouz666why I should look for a codec that there are genuine negatives issues ?
15:25.41anonymouz666:P
15:26.16coppicebecause the genuine positive issues are much stronger
15:26.51anonymouz666good answer
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15:27.12m_tadeuso right now I'm getting a bit noisy sound using ulaw on moh...it's the only call running on the system
15:28.09claydAny recomendations (or pointer to good information) on what phones work best with an Asterisk system?
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15:37.29MrNemuswould anyone know why sip channels would stay open ?
15:38.19ChainsawMrNemus: It can happen for PUBLISH dialogs in 1.8
15:38.33ChainsawMrNemus: Does it show as "Rx: PUBLISH" in sip show channels?
15:40.28MrNemushttp://pastebin.com/T1YLiJ5Q
15:40.32MrNemusthis is what I see
15:44.01QuantumSchemaHay all! Is != valid in an ExecIf for Not Equal To?
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15:44.53leifmadsenQuantumSchema: yes
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15:48.08m_tadeuI'd like an advice on how to setup an mp3 for moh...which application should I use and how?
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15:49.16leifmadsenm_tadeu: why not just convert the MP3 to something native asterisk can play?
15:49.24leifmadsenit's just silly to play actual mp3s
15:50.21m_tadeuand probably the origin of my noise :)
15:50.37coppicesome people think all sound needs to be in MP3
15:51.07leifmadsenspeaks in mp3
15:51.16_Corey_I've had to go back to MP3 at a couple customers who've complained about hearing the "same five seconds" of a song everytime they go on hold...  ;)
15:51.32coppicewhite man speaks with forked codec
15:52.36coppice_Corey_: its OK to put the whole of Wagner's ring on there in 16 bit linear
15:53.05jayteeeven if they only get to hear the first five seconds
15:53.30MrNemusso does anyone know why the sip channels would stay open ? the carrier says they are sending the rtp hang up request it only happens when the person on the other end hangs up
15:53.34jayteepersonally I prefer March of the Valkeries
15:53.34coppicebut they won't hear the fat lady sing
15:54.02_Corey_at least with MP3, they had some chance of hearing the fat lady sing :)
15:57.01coppiceI prefer the Kinks "Tired of Waiting"
15:57.10m_tadeuwell...does it really need to be mp3, so the clients don't get only the beginning of the music?
15:57.55fish-bulbah, the Kinks. I could stand any queue if they were the on hold music
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15:58.16_Corey_when playing in 'files' mode, it does a new thread per MOH session if I'm not mistaken... hence always starting at the beginning of a song
16:00.34m_tadeuis there a work around that?
16:01.20_Corey_it's more of a preference than a problem, I'd say
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16:20.44florzBart-: are there any agenty in the queue?
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16:38.40d_preston215How would I go about sending IP phones through a VPN?
16:40.01jpsharpbuild the VPN, route appropriately, just as you would regular nonvoip traffic.
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16:48.14diatonicCan anyone comment on how service is from VoicePulse? The seem to be the only provider that has DIDs in a particular rate center I need. Struck out with Vitelity & Flowroute.
16:51.45KavanSdiatonic, I use it, it's quite reliable
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16:52.06KavanSno real complaints with them - other than their international dial out policy, you need to provide them with the exact countries you intend to dial if you plan on using them for overseas dialing
16:52.27KavanSso if you do any "real" outbound overseas dialing, I'd use someone different for that aspect of your operations ;)
16:53.06QuantumSchemaIs there any response I can provide or action I can take in a dialplan that would not ring an agent but not be listed as "RINGNOANSWER"?
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16:53.55diatonicKavanS, thanks
16:54.27KavanSoverall quite reliable, have had very little downtime if any
16:54.36KavanSour guys monitor it with nagios and I've heard no complaints
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17:42.11jpsharpSIP + Nat = bad things.  SIP + NAT + NAT = seriously broken things.
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17:43.44Freeaqingmejpsharp: you're missing a step
17:43.52FreeaqingmeNAT = horror
17:44.27jpsharpThere is that.
17:46.27saisomahey guys, question regarding a PRI and ss7.  i am having issues calling AT&T toll free numbers.
17:46.46saisomaAT&T says that I need to "open the voice path early" and they are sending me ss7 messages to do that
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17:47.55saisomamy chan_dahdi.conf has nothing about ss7 in it.  i did install it, but do i need configuration for it?
17:47.55saisomahttp://pastebin.com/KS7Lf49N
17:50.34MrNemuswould anyone know why sip channels are not closing ? or a setting I could set to close inactive channels
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17:51.50jpsharpsaisoma: According to your config, you're not using SS7, just plain ISDN.
17:52.23JonathanRoseis assaulted by a thousand heavily escaped SIP messages
17:53.09saisomajpsharp: that's what i thought.  what info do i need from my provider to configure ss7?  i assume ss7type, maybe pointcode (do i make one up?), adjpointcode, defaultdpc?
17:53.32saisomajpsharp: thanks for answering too btw.  ss7 is totally new to me
17:54.10WIMPySS7 and "national" are rather different things. You need to agree with your telco which one you use.
17:54.59saisomaWIMPy: *nod*  is it possible that using national instead of ss7 could cause other issues, such as local echo (extraordinarily loud sidetone)?
17:55.27WIMPyIt will cause other issues, like nothing working at all.
17:55.36jpsharpYeah, it shouldn't even sync up.
17:57.30jpsharpand 'voice path early' sometimes means "inband call progress".  You can try turning that stuff on in the dahdi config.
17:57.34saisomaWIMPy: that's what is strange, since we work no problem except for calling AT&T toll free numbers.  the tech said they see ss7 messages going to us.  that's why i was confused.  i'll be contacting them for additional info, thanks guys.  as always, everyone here gets me info that i pull teeth trying to get elsewhere
17:57.48saisomajpsharp: ohhh . rgr.  will find that setting, thanks
17:58.41WIMPyYes, you might want to experiment with early medai settings.
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17:59.05WIMPyBut that might require experimenting with software versions.
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18:03.57sunfoneDoes anyone have any troubles with Dahdi channels (on RBS T1) getting stuck in "ringing" state?
18:04.12maxagazhey, there's something I don't understand about E1 line
18:04.29maxagazE1 is an ethernet cable ?
18:04.48sunfoneE1 is a TDM circuit (non US/Japan) with 30 channels I believe
18:05.26sunfoneHandoff is an RJ45, though, so it *looks* like an ethernet cable :)
18:05.48maxagazsunfone, ok but, when I plug it on my server, it can be plugged to an ethernet card or has to be plugged on a special PBX card ?
18:05.58sunfonePBX card
18:05.58maxagazlike PCI-E card
18:06.15sunfoneMany folks make them - Digium of course, Sangoma, Rhino, etc
18:06.52sunfoneI use Sangoma A10Xd
18:08.25jpsharpPlugging an E1 RJ45 into an ethernet card will possibly let the magic smoke out of the Ethernet card.
18:09.32irrootjpsharp but not too impressive  :)
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18:29.08WIMPyWouldn't the other way be more likely?
18:29.48axillai have a question, i'm having an issue with inbound calls coming in as an unknown peer
18:29.52axillaasterisk 1.6
18:30.07axillaonly way i can get inbound calls to come in is by turning on anonymous inbound calls allowed
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18:30.35mducharme-workafternoon
18:31.27mducharme-workwe want to connect our alarm system into an FXS port on our asterisk server to go through our PRI instead of paying for the monthly fee for an analog line for the alarm system - is that advisable?
18:31.32WIMPyevening
18:31.51irrootgood night
18:32.15WIMPymducharme-work: You might want to ask your insurance company about that.
18:32.17mducharme-workwe have the appropriate ports and they are all configured.. we do faxing over voice over ip right now with no problems so I assume a dial up modem should work
18:32.49sunfonemducharme-work: its not always a modem - sometimes DTMF driven
18:32.49mducharme-workour alarm system fails over to a cellular connection if the dial up isn't working
18:32.58axillaReceived incoming SIP connection from unknown peer to xxxxxxxxxxxxx
18:33.17mducharme-workso it's not as big of a risk as if it didn't have that fail over option
18:33.29WIMPymducharme-work: Then I guess you might go ahead.
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19:59.28sezuanIs it possible to define a template from which a sipeer/sipuser entry in ldap gets his defaults?
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20:43.35USCooler25I am looking for some help with my asterisk server.  Am I in the right place?
20:43.52WIMPy~ask
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20:45.35USCooler25Sorry, I have a server that periodically goes unresponsive to our phones and t1 line.  The server appears to be running, I can connect to it and run commands on the CLI, but it will not do anything.  It doesn't appear to be running any out of controll processes, and the only way to get it working again is to reboot the computer.  Restarting asterisk doesn't seem to work.  I have Elastix 2.0.3
20:46.28WIMPyWhat kind of phones?
20:46.44USCooler25Is there anything I can look for in the logs to trace what is happening.  I have traced back several minutes before the event happens, but I can not see anything out the ordinary.
20:47.15USCooler25polycom
20:47.23USCooler25som 550s, and some 301s
20:47.30USCooler25*some
20:48.15USCooler25it is like the server is offline, but I can ping it, connect to it over ssh.
20:48.24WIMPyIf you get issues both with T1 and SIP at the same time and restarting Asterisk won't resolve the issue, there must be something really strange going on.
20:48.41WIMPyOr do you have the T1 on a SIP gateway?
20:48.51USCooler25sometimes it will go days with no problems, then some days I have to reboot it a few times
20:49.07USCooler25No, the T1 is using a digium card to the phone provider
20:51.23WIMPyEven if you have issues with the card at a lower level, I can't imagine how that could prevent SIP phones from working after a restart of Asterisk.
20:53.06USCooler25It seems to me like the system is not responding to any requests, like it is overloaded or something, but everything I look at says the system is pretty much idle when it is happening.
20:53.49USCooler25It doesn't drop calls that are in progress, it just won't let any new calls initiate.
20:54.45WIMPyOk, so what exactely happens, when you try to place a call? Both from the T1 and from the SIP phones.
20:55.43WIMPyDoes the system have a high load? That can happen, even when it's idle.
20:56.18USCooler25Sorry about the akf
20:56.22USCooler25*afk
20:56.47USCooler25When a call is placed from the phone, it just sits there and does nothing.
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20:57.48USCooler25From the outside I am not sure exactly what happens.
20:58.09USCooler25I will have to try to call in when it happens the next time.
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21:02.36kaldemarUSCooler25: what is the asterisk version that you're using?
21:02.50USCooler25Just a sec
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21:03.13USCooler251.6.2.13
21:08.32kaldemarthere have been bugs that made asterisk not close UDP sockets. that might stop SIP from working.
21:08.47kaldemarhttps://issues.asterisk.org/view.php?id=17255
21:09.42kaldemarsomeone found that in 1.6.2.16.1, it only happens when SIP session timers are in use.
21:10.14WIMPyBut that situation would be cleared by a restart.
21:11.15wdoekes2USCooler25: next time, get a backtrace from the running asterisk (if you don't have core show locks): gdb -p `pidof asterisk` -ex 'thread apply all bt full' -ex detach -ex quit > output.txt
21:11.27USCooler25could paging to several extensions cause over use of the ports?
21:11.36wdoekes2if you cannot restart asterisk, you're probably looking at some deadlock
21:11.50wdoekes2'core show locks' is useful too, but you need to have that compiled in
21:12.26wdoekes2mm.. the udp leaks never caused it to not restart, afaik
21:14.45WIMPyUSCooler25: Does it run again after you restart it?
21:15.42USCooler25after i reboot, yes
21:15.49wdoekes2and does killing asterrisk with -KILL work?
21:16.04USCooler25i didn't try that, i tried amportal stop and start
21:16.16WIMPyAnd what happens if you just restart Asterisk?
21:16.37USCooler25i only tried it once, and it didn't change anything.
21:16.38WIMPyHmm, whatever that might do.
21:17.11wdoekes2USCooler25: if it works again after a -KILL, the card is not to blame, if it doesn't the card probably is
21:17.28WIMPyNext time try 'core restart now' in the *CLI or if that won't do, kill it.
21:17.30USCooler25the t1 card?
21:17.34wdoekes2restarting a computer should alsmost never be necessary
21:18.01USCooler25i'll try that
21:18.17USCooler25but I would still like to figure out what is causing the instability
21:18.28ChannelZglobal warming
21:18.32USCooler25lol
21:18.48wdoekes2get the gdb output when it hangs
21:18.49ChannelZIt causes everything!
21:18.52USCooler25global warming is a myth
21:19.13WIMPyYou could check for leaked sockets with netstat.
21:19.15Freeaqingmeyup
21:19.23FreeaqingmeI think central heating has been proven way better
21:27.25USCooler25Thank you for your help guys.  Hopefully I can get closer to finding the problem.
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