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00:42.17techok so i brought up a brand new spaknin frepbx + asterisk box.
00:42.25techi am getting 408 registration timeouts when trying to register.
00:42.37techtriple checked settigns and they are all right/
00:42.42techinstalling wireshark now...
00:44.04techwhile that is installing - any ideas?
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01:02.36techhrm no i got now peer.
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01:26.43gentoo_fun2hey guys, quick question. I used deny=0.0.0.0/0.0.0.0 and permit=192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0 in my sip.conf for asterisk
01:27.08gentoo_fun2but I am still getting script kiddies from the outside trying to register
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01:27.34gentoo_fun2any idea whats next?
01:27.58WIMPyYes: Having fun with RTP.
01:28.41WIMPyDo you have deny/permit on all peers?
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01:30.09gentoo_fun2nope
01:30.23gentoo_fun2the peer stuff is provisioned
01:30.42gentoo_fun2id like not to touch that stuff
01:31.13gentoo_fun2theres no root location to put this that superceedes?
01:31.33WIMPyI don;t think so.
01:31.38gentoo_fun2like I cannot put the deny/permit b4 the #include for all the peers?
01:31.54gentoo_fun2bleh
01:32.17WIMPyYou can use a template.
01:34.35gentoo_fun2template for?
01:35.07WIMPyyour peers
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01:45.10gentoo_fun2ehh idk, I cant fuck with it too much, its a live system
01:45.18gentoo_fun2been using iptables to block the shit for now
01:45.27gentoo_fun2i gota go on site to relearn how all the provisioning stuff works
01:45.51WIMPyIf you can use iptables, that probably the better idea, anyway.
01:45.57gentoo_fun2looks simple enough, but the conf files that the peers/phones use are generated
01:46.07gentoo_fun2yea but obv i cant block the entire internets :)
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03:19.56radenanyone figure out the asterisk 1.8 no music on hold with aastra phones issue ?
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03:30.27jplankdoes anyone else have access to a VVX1500?
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07:00.59recluzehi. I'm trying to insert a hook in the same place where the CDR is written. I basically want to generate a web call (using AGI) at this point with all the info sent to CDR... any hints for that?
07:02.34Juggietrap it in the hangup portion of your dialplan
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07:03.10recluzeoops... window got closed... did I miss a message?
07:03.24Juggieyes, trap it in the hangup portion of your dialplan
07:03.58Juggiehowever you need to make sure your dialplan allows both calls hungup by the callee and the caller to get trapped
07:04.01Juggieso be sure to test.
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07:04.31recluzethe issue is that there are many places for the hangup
07:04.42recluzeI want to record ring groups, extensions, ivrs. ... everything
07:04.55recluzeso, I was wondering if there is one place where all the CDRs are written
07:05.05recluzeotherwise, I will have to insert the hooks in all the places, right?
07:05.18Juggieright.
07:05.26Juggiecheck what cdr drivers exist.
07:05.28recluzeoh
07:05.40recluzecurrently only file CDRs are used
07:05.40Juggievague memory tells me there might be a cdr curl?
07:05.47Juggiei've been away from * for a while.
07:05.47recluze(no mysql etc)
07:05.52recluze:O CDRU curl?
07:06.35recluzeCDR*
07:06.47kaldemarrecluze: depending on your dialplan structure, a single hangup extension may suffice.
07:07.19Juggierecluze, perhaps the better question to ask is what is your goal specifically
07:07.38kaldemarif you want to do it from dialplan.
07:08.49Juggiesee q.
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10:49.02EmleyMoorI am having trouble getting caller ID from my BT line into asterisk. There is reportedly a patch out there for chan_dahdi.c to fix this, but all links to it give a 404. Any ideasL
10:49.07EmleyMoor?
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10:53.07EmleyMoor(It worked in 1.2 and needed a patch in 1.4 - now on 1.6.2.9 which still reportedly needs a patch)
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12:28.21as001Hi, can I use channel bank with Asterisk to combine 4 analog telephone lines  ? I want to archive when 2 calls come at analog line 1 at same time call 2 goes to line 2 (to avoid busy signal for caller 2). Is this possible ?
12:30.42WIMPyAsk your Telco how to set up CFB.
12:32.12as001CFB ?
12:32.44as001can you tell me what is CFB ?
12:33.47WIMPyCall Forward when Busy
12:35.29as001ok thanks
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13:22.22benngardi am a little bit lazy, can some1 tell me what i should type  after mailcmd= when i change from exim to postfix
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14:03.09MrTelephoneIs there a code update for comparing digest with endpoints that share the same source ip:port?
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14:07.19recluzehi. Is there an asterisk command that will allow me to register with an ITSP... I know it can be done using register strings but I need to do it manually
14:09.26MrTelephoneI wouldn't say there is
14:10.25recluzeI see an 'sip unregister' command ... so there should be an equiv. register one :(
14:11.55MrTelephonejust add it to sip.conf and hit rleoad
14:12.02MrTelephonetype reload
14:13.25kaldemarsip reload will only reload sip instead of all modules.
14:17.51MrTelephoneI don't even see an unregister command in my console
14:17.55MrTelephonejust sip show registry
14:17.56zkn"sip unregister <peer>" will unregister the peer from your system, I don't think you can force your system to register with your ITSP any other way than adding the register line to sip.conf (if the ITSP requires you to register) and running command "sip reload" in CLI
14:19.12MrTelephone"We need the users to use the same authentication user name until we support proper authentication by digest auth name" I found this in chan_sip.c. Is there any headway on this project?
14:20.19recluzemy problem is that if I sip reload or reload any other way, my ITSP thinks I'm spamming them
14:20.24recluzesince i have many trunks with them
14:20.32recluzeso, I need to register one trunk at a time ...
14:20.53recluzeso, any alternative strategy would be appreciated as sip reload doesn't work (it re-registers everything)
14:21.22MrTelephonethey shouldn't be blocking legitimate clients
14:22.32MrTelephoneI would deal with the ITSP instead of banging your head against the desk on this one.
14:25.01MrTelephoneEven worse case scenerio you reload 200 times in 5 minutes I can't see it increasing a PIII 900mhz load by 1%.
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14:26.42MrTelephoneAt least your reloads are legitimate. I'll tell you what is irritating is those idiots using brute force attacks trying to figure out sip accounts.
14:28.41zkn<MrTelephone: got to agree there
14:29.58MrTelephoneI'm not understanding the logic there because they are not even remotely close to guessing the usernames.
14:30.11recluze:)
14:30.22MrTelephoneIt's just a waste of bandwidth
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14:32.20recluzethat's actually pretty good advice. I'm going to talk to the ITSP people to get my IP un-banned
14:32.27MrTelephoneimagine if that is how magic jack works? a bunch of guys hacking sip accounts and charging 17 bucks a year to use them
14:33.48zkni have been using iptables to drop all attempts to connect to TCP and UDP port 5060 by counting connection attempts but somehow the bots still managed to scan the system :/
14:33.55MrTelephonerecluze, I think they are just being a little too strict on the banning policies.
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14:35.08MrTelephoneIt's too hard to block everything. It's normal to get port scanned. When I changed my ssh ports to something other than 22 noone has even tried to brute force at all.
14:35.46MrTelephoneSome guy had a shell script made up already that scanned the asterisk log files for failed auth attempts and banned the ip in iptables
14:36.32zknfail2ban works the same way, although it doesn't work to well for me with Asterisk
14:36.37MrTelephoneI downloaded a subnet list of all known .ru addresses and banned the entire country once for a laugh
14:36.54zknssh brute forces are blocked well with fail2ban
14:36.54MrTelephonewasn't fail2ban written for asterisk?
14:37.20MrTelephoneare you getting massive port connection attacks? I haven't noticed anything like that yet
14:38.56zkni guess my server's hostname is too obvious and attracts scanners or smth, i see attempts at least 2-3 times a week, some times even per night
14:39.41MrTelephoneare you too big to change your default port?
14:40.09zkni could try that..
14:40.56MrTelephoneIt's a big job
14:41.14MrTelephoneReconfigure every client :(
14:41.41MrTelephoneI just remember getting nailed on port 22 all the time and changed it and people don't even know it's ssh
14:41.43zknit's a shame when they scan during an active call, then you can hear the call breaking up
14:42.04MrTelephonethat would piss me off
14:42.09zknoh yeah
14:42.45MrTelephoneis your machine on a cable/dsl type connection then?
14:45.07zknseveral machines in various countries
14:45.15MrTelephoneI have a very overpowered xeon machine with asterisk on it servince maybe 100 people. I haven't experiences any jitter due to port scans or antyhing
14:45.26MrTelephoneyou sound massive
14:46.32MrTelephonezkn, magic jack?
14:46.58zknwell, it might be some config issue,too, i cannot say I'm an expert in Asterisk and know how to fine tune the system to get everything out of it, so when the bots start scaning then the effect is audible during calls for sure
14:47.48zknwhat's magic jack?
14:48.06zknnot been using it...
14:48.17MrTelephoneit's some phone company in north america that offers phone for 17 dollars a year. They give you some USB stick to plug in your computer
14:49.35MrTelephonezkn, do you run 'top' or something when you get scanned?
14:49.42zknhtop
14:50.33MrTelephonefor 17 dollars a year this guy must have asterisk in his basement with a bunch of X100 cards hooked to analog phone lines to his neighbors house so he doesn't get a bill
14:50.34MrTelephonelol
14:50.43zknusually it happes so fast than when I hear complaints about "call quality" and get to the CLI then everything is back to normal again, but /var/log/asterisk/messages reveals the truth
14:51.53MrTelephoneI have a problem building served by a cable modem and they get blanks downstream which is very strange. I should check the logs as well. Are they experiencing stuttering or long blank periods?
14:52.55MrTelephoneIf you know for sure that its port scans try and switch your default ports and it might help quite a bit.
14:52.57zknstuttering
14:53.26zknjust like packets are dropping or smth
14:53.27MrTelephoneif you goto #romania you might even be able to talk to the people that are scanning you
14:53.28MrTelephonelol
14:53.37zknlol
14:53.48MrTelephoneThe romanians got me bad a couple years ago
14:54.02MrTelephonefuckin kids get paid to goto school so they have too much time on their hands
14:54.13MrTelephonein north america if we arn't on welfare we are too busy to hack
14:54.30MrTelephonetoo busy working to pay for our computers to get reformatted at the shop
14:55.25MrTelephoneso what kind of solution do you have for testing to see if the packets are dropping or just showing up late/out of order?
14:56.42zknright now I have no real solution yet, i have been experimenting with IPtables and fail2ban but I think I need to read up on the security topic a bit to get an idea what else to try besides changing the ports
14:57.37tzangerhahaha
14:58.11MrTelephoneIf your on dsl or cable it might not be able to handle the sudden inrush of traffic? if that is the case there won't me much you can do?
14:59.08MrTelephoneI'm starting a business going around spanking all the kids that are port flodding our production servers.
14:59.23MrTelephones/flodding/flooding/
15:00.19MrTelephoneFirst thing I guess is to call their parents
15:00.54MrTelephone"while you were playing world of warcraft your kids hacked 3 banks"
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15:18.18benngardlittle off-topic but i think and some know the anser, i am looking for an english word, when a trasfer a call to b and b dont answer, a is "getting the call back", in sweden we say a got a "transfer retur", whats the english word(s) for that?
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15:32.33Aut0Exechi guys... I have a beginners question for you... is only 1 fxs tied to 1 sip configuration?  for example... if i'm using a basic ATA and I use a phone splitter on the analog phone side to connect 2 analog phones.  will both of them pick up the same sip configs?
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15:34.31kaldemarAut0Exec: yes
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15:36.30Aut0Execoh i see... so to add more physical phones... I would have get a better ATA like a card?
15:36.51Aut0Execbut even the cards that I see only allow 2 fxo and 2 fxs ports?
15:37.03Aut0Execso still a maximum of 2 physical phones on thoese cards right?
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15:38.26Aut0ExecI guess what would make it much easier in a basic office setup is to use ip phones going into a switch panel.. with 1 ATA connected from a fxo yes?
15:38.38wdoekes2zkn: I've experienced audio stuttering when the romanians are doing brute force register attempts
15:39.02wdoekes2my solution, iptables --hashlimit
15:39.09zknwhat's with the romanians? :)
15:39.13wdoekes2s/--/-m /
15:39.40LemensTSGood Morning/Evening/Night all, I have 2 pots lines going into a Digium card, and I can't get rid of echo. I was thinking about getting an ATA with FXO ports and converting them to SIP outside of asterisk, then bringing them into asterisk as SIP. Do those ATA's do pretty good job as ridding echo?
15:40.02zknwdoekes2: will look into --hashlimit
15:41.49riponhi everybody
15:42.54MrTelephonebenngard, forward no answer
15:43.51MrTelephonezkn, most of the attacking hosts are .ro
15:44.20riponany plain asterisk users who for a bit paypal magic , can offer an hrs or so tuition on asterisk monday or tuesday ?
15:45.01riponpreferbly in early eveing time-  (uk) ?
15:45.28MrTelephonejust ask quesitons here it is free?
15:45.33zknMrTelephone: haven't noticed that yet, never really bothered investigating the IP addresses
15:45.49KingDavidNYC<PROTECTED>
15:45.52zknbut good to know
15:46.09MrTelephonehow many packets are you actually getting?? how many/sec
15:46.34wdoekes2KingDavidNYC: not any different from any other outgoing call
15:47.59MrTelephoneKingDavidNYC, that is too vague of a description for people to help you.
15:48.16riponcan not receive incoming calls from did or make calls- local extension to extension,,, have contexts set up right ,, but suspect that when doing a "reload"  the extensions.conf file isnt saving with newest dialplan
15:48.40ripondialplan reload / reload dialplan
15:48.41LemensTSWhat happened to TKD_Fender?
15:48.47ripondoesnt work
15:48.57benngardMrTelephone: thx
15:49.18MrTelephoneripon, no errors in the output?
15:49.46MrTelephonedouble check you didn't mispell extensions.conf when you saved. I did that before and took me 35 minutes to figure it out
15:50.05riponoh you mean like errors at line 100, or whatever ? no...
15:50.24MrTelephoneI had trouble with musiconhold last week not loading the new settings so I actually had to unload the module and reload.
15:50.35riponreally?
15:50.39MrTelephoneripon, someones it will say extension already exists and it skips it
15:50.46riponhow do you unload a module and relaod ???
15:51.14wdoekes2hm? dialplan reload has never failed me
15:51.20MrTelephoneme neither
15:51.34riponive googled dialplan reload ,,, quite a fewpeople it fails
15:51.41wdoekes2ripon: dialplan show to see which one you got
15:51.42MrTelephonewhat version?
15:52.09KingDavidNYCwdoekes2: what about incoming calls? how does opensips knows how to foward the call to the asterisk server?  I see an example in config.cfg that uses ASTERISK_IP, what is that, a variable? should I replace with the real IP or is there a table where I define this constant?
15:52.28Aut0Execwould a good basic office setup be 1 ATA going into a swith with IP phones?
15:52.44wdoekes2KingDavidNYC: still too vague. I can guess where you're heading, but it's not immediately obvious
15:53.16MrTelephoneaut0exec. what is the ata for?
15:54.11riponAsterisk PBX 1.6.2.5-0ubuntu1.3 ,,, is the version and machine im running on
15:54.19Aut0Execata is to get my existing analog phone integrated
15:54.21KingDavidNYCwdoekes2: I just dont understand how the concept of forwardign from opensips to asterisk works... I am supposing asterisk works as a sip client
15:54.45MrTelephoneauto0exec, how do you get your calls out? you have a voip provider?
15:55.09wdoekes2if (method == "INVITE") { rewritehost("my.asterisk.server.com"); t_relay(); }
15:55.29ripondone dialplan show- its not in therer
15:55.32wdoekes2you're not asking the right questions
15:55.45MrTelephonekingdavidnyc, you setup a peer in sip.conf with the ip address of your sip router. Asterisk does act like a client.
15:55.47ripononly the usual sample configurations.. not my custom one
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15:55.55Aut0ExecMrTelephone, first off.. i havent done anything yet... i'm about to.  and second.. I would like to use both my local line and a voip provider to make outgoing calls.. perhaps overseas calls going out using a dial code first.. like dial 8, then the number..
15:56.38riponis it something to do with writeprotect etc? - and thats why latest dialplans are not being saved?
15:56.58Aut0ExecMrTelephone, my question was only how a basic office would be setup (hardware wise).. if just 1 ATA would be sufficient going into a switch with ip phones?
15:57.04MrTelephoneSo you need a linux machine with asterisk and some kind of single port FXO card for the telco? I would say thats a good office setup compared to using some proprietary nortel/avaya system. If you have the time to set it up.
15:57.22Aut0Execok
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15:57.37Aut0Execkewl
15:57.42MrTelephoneautoexec. you just need a server and some kind of digium hardware to bring in your telephone line
15:57.53KingDavidNYCMrTelephone: anywhere I can see a sample of this in sip.conf?
15:57.56MrTelephonethe ata and sip phones all use the same switch and register with your asterisk server.
15:58.23Aut0ExecMrTelephone, sounds good... when u say digium hardware.. u are refering to an ATA with fxo right?
15:58.31kaldemarno telephony hardware is needed on the asterisk box. an ATA with an FXO port will do.
16:00.04MrTelephonewhere do you get an ata with an fxo port?
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16:00.10MrTelephoneautoexec, yeah
16:00.25Aut0Execi was thinking just a sipura 3000 or the likes
16:00.33Aut0Execor linksys ATA
16:00.36Aut0Execetc etc
16:00.58KingDavidNYCwdoeks2: thank you, that is the direction
16:02.16MrTelephonenice, i didn't even know they made fxo atas. That is all you need then
16:02.23Aut0Execk
16:03.06MrTelephoneI have a supirua 8 port fxs I don't need anymore. I wonder if it has any value left.
16:03.29MrTelephoneKingDavidNYC. When I was playing around I just read some of the asterisk+openser wiki's
16:04.06Aut0Execlast nub question.... where is the softbutton configs for phones stored?  like example... I have a nice cisco ip phone and I want to map  the buttons.. where do I configure that?
16:04.28KingDavidNYCMrTelephone: Man, the truth has to be said, documentation and wiki on anything SER is AWFUL
16:04.57MrTelephoneKing. Put something liek this in sip.conf
16:05.04MrTelephone[openser]
16:05.04MrTelephonecontext=from-openser
16:05.04MrTelephonetype=peer
16:05.05MrTelephonehost=IP
16:05.05MrTelephonedtmf=rfc2833
16:05.05MrTelephonecanreinvite=no
16:05.12MrTelephoneI'm going to get in trouble for that one
16:05.17Aut0Execlol
16:05.26KingDavidNYCMrTelephone: thanks a lot
16:05.45MrTelephoneextensions.conf you put    [from-openser] then put your dialplan underneath
16:06.09KingDavidNYCMrTelefone: host=IP, which Ip, SIP-SERver-IP??
16:06.42MrTelephoneyour sip server ip. there is no authentication so your allowing invites only from that IP
16:07.07KingDavidNYCMrTelephone: great
16:07.11Aut0ExecMrTelephone, where do i map my buttons for my ip phones?
16:08.16MrTelephonenot sure, are you sure you can? You might only be able to use them for speed dial for people in your contact list.
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16:09.54KingDavidNYCMrTelephone and wdoekes2: Thank you guys
16:10.03MrTelephonekingdavidnyc, the sip server forwards what you dial to asterisk. If you dialed 500 then you put exten => 500,1,Dial(SIP/asdkajdda)
16:10.31MrTelephoneKingDavid, good luck with that. It's fun and frustrating at the same time trying to figure this stuff out
16:11.14KingDavidNYCMrTelephone: Thanks
16:11.20Aut0Execthanks guys
16:11.25MrTelephoneYou might have to start using sip debug ip <sipserver> on asterisk to actually watch the messages. It teaches you a lot
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16:11.37MrTelephoneaut0exec. what did you want the buttons to do?
16:11.52MrTelephoneDo you have one of those nice touch screen phones?
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16:13.42MrTelephoneThe guy who made asterisk should be proud of himself. This software is amazing
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16:26.28LemensTSWhat do you recommend for ATA with 2 FXO ports
16:27.42iprouteth0i have a linksys I like alot
16:27.52LemensTSWhat model
16:28.10iprouteth0PAP2
16:28.27LemensTSThats 2 FXS ports
16:28.37iprouteth0oh FXO
16:28.40iprouteth0missed that
16:28.49iprouteth0good question
16:29.03iprouteth0have you looked at the digium cards?
16:29.31LemensTSYea, was wanting to try an ATA. Ive used ZOOM ata with FXO ports before.
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16:32.59iprouteth0not sure I've seen any with 2 FXO
16:33.04iprouteth0maybe cisco vg200
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16:50.03LemensTStry now
16:50.09LemensTSwrong window...
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19:12.58jayteeanyone have recommendations for a softphone for Android phones?
19:16.19carrarIs there a Bria client for Android?
19:16.55carrarlooks like there is
19:17.07carrarhttp://www.counterpath.com/bria-android-edition.html
19:18.47benngardhttp://www.acrobits.cz/27/acrobits-mobile-voip-solutions <- i am using it on an iPhone, works fine, nut eating battery like a camel in the desrt :(
19:19.10carrarcamel's are battery hungrey
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19:27.44SunTsucarrar: I use http://sipdroid.org/, which can even handle two sip accounts
19:28.01carrarbria can handle lots of accounts
19:28.23carrarleast the version I have on my iPhone
19:28.29carrarworks very nice
19:29.17SunTsucarrar: looks nice, yes
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19:35.05jayteejust tried the 3CX free softphone. seems to work pretty good.
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19:37.00ShadowHntri had trouble with everything but Blink
19:37.06ShadowHntrwhen i was testing
19:37.08carrarhaha
19:37.43Aut0Exechi guys I need some advice on a product... is the grandsteam ht503 good for an ATA?  its only 40 bucks on amazon and i'm thinking of buying it now... I want to use it as an fxo and fxs to get my existing local line integraged into asterisk
19:37.58carrarewe
19:38.02Aut0Exec:(
19:38.04ShadowHntrget a digium card
19:38.07ShadowHntrlike a tdm400p
19:38.11Aut0Execexpensive man
19:38.16Aut0Exec:|
19:38.18Aut0Execi'm a nub
19:38.20Aut0Execjust starting out
19:38.23Aut0Execjust messing around
19:38.32carrarwaste more time with crappy hardware
19:38.37carrartime == $
19:38.40Aut0Execlol
19:39.02Aut0Execi'm just learning now dude... when I get some real skills then I will get the good hardware
19:39.09carrarYou will be glade you purchase the right hardware
19:39.12Aut0Execright nowi'm just running debian/asterisk
19:39.12carrarpurchsaed
19:39.16Aut0Execvirtualized in virtualbox
19:39.26Aut0Exechow much is the card?
19:39.35carraryou need ebaylessions?
19:39.39Aut0Execlol
19:39.41Aut0Execlulz
19:39.46ShadowHntr85 dollars on ebay
19:39.56Aut0Execk
19:40.23Aut0Exec2 fxo, 2 fxs right?
19:40.29ShadowHntrcustomizable
19:40.32carrarwhatever you need
19:40.44ShadowHntri have one with one fxo and three fxs'es
19:40.53Aut0Execok nice
19:41.05Aut0Execu have it as a home/office setup?
19:41.17ShadowHntrsetting it up for a hobbyist space
19:41.23Aut0Execoh ok
19:41.36Aut0Execusing all analog phones?
19:41.53ShadowHntrgoing to offer the functionality of analog phones if people bring them :)
19:42.06Aut0Execwhat u need the 3 fxs ports for?
19:42.13ShadowHntranalog phones on the internal side
19:42.43Aut0Execyeah well I was thinking to get that grandsteam... and plug that into my switch and then get like 2 or 3 ip phones..
19:42.57Aut0Exec1 fxs, and 2 or 3 ip phones
19:43.02Aut0Execlike 4 phones all together
19:43.16Aut0Exec1 analog of course
19:43.17carrarall good till you said grandstream
19:43.21Aut0Exechahaha
19:43.28carrar~grandstream
19:43.29infobot[grandstream] the Yugo of VoIP hardware.  Run...  Run away now.  Though, therealcircut says that they're not that bad.
19:43.41ShadowHntr~polycom
19:43.41infobot[polycom] The Polycom Song by dialing sip:polycom@leifmadsen.com or ISN 7659*460. Polycom phone are devices that are favoured by much of the community and range in price from under $100 and upwards.
19:43.44Aut0Execlol
19:43.49Aut0Execok how bout that linksys ATA?
19:43.53ShadowHntr~linksys
19:43.53infobotmethinks linksys is a tool of satan
19:43.53Aut0Execbetter?
19:43.59carrarlinksys works
19:44.02Aut0Execlol
19:44.14ShadowHntr~sipura
19:44.14infobotSipura has been aquired by cisco, see ~cisco and ~linksys .
19:44.26carrarAudioCodes are nice
19:44.29Aut0Execyeah linksys ATA replaces sipura dude
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19:45.03carraror get yourself a T1 card and connect it to a ADIT600
19:45.50Aut0Execman to be honest... I dont want to mess with cards right now... i'm just getting my feet wet
19:46.01Aut0Execif the ATA box is gonna work then why not
19:46.03carrarthen don't bother with analog
19:47.43Aut0Execman u guys are high tech.. i'm coming off of watching http://asterisk.org/videos... and they recommend to start with that for beginners
19:47.54carrarhaha
19:47.57Aut0Exec:(
19:48.07Aut0Execcome on dude.. dont laugh at me
19:48.10Aut0Execi'm new to this
19:48.21carrarthen just start with 2 sip phones
19:48.30Aut0Execthats what i'm using now
19:48.31carraror 2 free soft phones
19:48.43Aut0Execbut I want my analog phone integrated
19:48.48Aut0Execlocal phone
19:49.13carrarGo buy a linksys ATA then
19:49.23Aut0Execkk
19:49.28Aut0Execbetter than the grandstream right?
19:49.33Aut0Exec:|
19:49.39carraryes
19:49.43Aut0Execlol k
19:50.32carrarhttp://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps10027/index.html
19:51.00Aut0Execyeah thats the one
19:51.04Aut0Exec:)
19:52.28Aut0Execcarrar,  you integrated your local line?
19:52.44carrarI don't have any local lines
19:52.50Aut0Execohh
19:52.51Aut0Execok
19:52.53Aut0Execgatcha
19:53.00carrarAnalog sucks
19:53.04Aut0Execlol
19:53.10carrarseriously
19:53.20Aut0Execwell I live in the bahamas... we dont have digital carriers here
19:53.23Aut0Execnot yet at least
19:53.30Aut0Execwell not for mainstream use
19:53.55Aut0Execso it will have to suffice
19:54.10Aut0Execmy goal is to integrate a voip solution with my local carrier.
19:54.32carrarthen you want the Digium card
19:54.37carrarfor best performance
19:54.41ShadowHntrwell keep us appraised on your progress, it's cool to hear people in the community working out :)
19:55.16Aut0Execok
19:57.23zknjaytee, get your Android phone up to day running Ginerbread - it has sip stack built in, no need to install separate 3rd party application
19:57.30zknday=date
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20:19.58philfineHello everyone, have upgrade debian to squeeze and now kernel (2.6.32) does not come with dahdi module ? Can anyone guide me on getting dahdi back to work ?
20:21.23SiNGLerdid you install dahdi from source?
20:21.29WIMPyThe same way your did it the last time.
20:22.43philfineNop
20:23.09philfineWell, in last time there was lenny and it came with a module for the card
20:23.28philfineNow with 2.4.32 there is no such module compiled at least
20:23.44philfineModule was wctdm
20:24.35philfineSo card doesn't even appear on lspci
20:27.08philfineWill reboot to older kernel to see if it comes back
20:28.42philfineOn booting I have Module dahdi not found, missing /dev/dahdi
20:30.53WIMPyLinux has never had dahdi included. You need to install it yourself.
20:35.44carrarJust click on START
20:41.30philfineWIMPy: Your right, I have installed dahdi from source myself, but the kernel was there from the start I guess :S
20:41.34philfineMaybe not :S
20:42.59SiNGLerdahdi installation installs modules for kernel, so if kernel changed - modules needs to be recompiled
20:43.39SiNGLerstrangest thing is that lspci does not show a card - it should show, because it does not depend on dahdi kernel module
20:44.04SiNGLermaybe you are missing some firmware for your pci controller?
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20:44.23carrarJust start over with a clean install
20:45.45philfineThe card manual claims Iwould need wctdm
20:45.58philfineDoes it comes with dahdi ?
20:46.03carraryes
20:46.19carrarwget http://downloads.asterisk.org/pub/telephony/dahdi-linux-complete/releases/dahdi-linux-complete-2.4.1+2.4.1.tar.gz
20:46.52philfineOk
20:46.52philfineMaybe I should update dahdi too ?
20:46.52philfineI have 2.4.0
20:47.32carrarI don't know what you are even trying to do
20:47.39carrarbut soundsl ike you have a mess
20:48.08carrarYou start changing your kenel you better very well know what you are doing and what will be effected
20:48.41philfineI didn't change kernel
20:48.56philfineAnd if I did I can assure you I would now pretty much what to do :D
20:49.02philfineknow
20:49.09carrarI would install a latest reelease of linux fresh them
20:49.17carrarand not use a 2.4 kernel
20:49.21philfineAnyway, I have just upgraded debian
20:49.33philfineDidn't remembered that I had installed dahdi from source
20:49.39philfineThought it was part of the kernel
20:49.55carrarif you don't remember then you probably use packages/rpm's
20:50.14philfineSorry
20:50.23philfine2.4.32 I meanth 2.6.32
20:50.34carrarso you DID upgrade the kernel
20:50.53philfineI do not use 2.4 for more then 5 years or more :D
20:51.30carrarWell if I were you, I would install everything from source and compile
20:51.42philfinecarrar: but your saying debian already comes with a package with dahdi modules
20:51.57carrarI don't use debian
20:52.00carrarso I do not know
20:52.05carrarbut I highly doubt it
20:52.35carrarBut if you installed asterisk from a package manager it probably automatically installed dahdi
20:52.43carrarsince it's needed
20:53.08WIMPyWAS needed
20:54.36carrarconfernce timing comes from dahdi I believe
20:54.49carrarmeetme
20:55.14philfineIt has a package dadhi-linux but doesn't seem to appear in modules list
20:55.28WIMPyYes, but if you don't need MeetMe, you don't need dahdi any more.
20:55.32carrarhaha
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21:25.50CRCinAU_yawns
21:25.53CRCinAU_morning all
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21:28.11CRCinAU_p3nguin: fyi: "Conferencing was tested and working with Cisco 7940/60, 7941/61, 7970/71, 7965 etc. and working fine. I am not sure if the WLAN phones work yet."
21:28.19CRCinAU_regarding chan-sccp-b trunk :)
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21:38.36p3nguincrcinau_: But it only works in Asterisk 1.6.something branch, because they don't currently support 1.8 branch and 1.4 branch does not have ConfBridge.  Does that sound about right?
21:40.39CRCinAU_I believe so
21:40.45CRCinAU_however I still haven't got it working ;)
21:40.54CRCinAU_i'm checking out the trunk svn again to do more playing though.
21:43.45p3nguinI will never use 1.6.anything.
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21:45.16p3nguinThe closest you will get me to it is that I might consider testing chan_sccp-b features on 1.6.2 branch in a test environment, but I will never put it on any of my production environments.
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21:45.27CRCinAU_oh?
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21:50.00riddleboxhello, what are people going to do with gizmo shutting down? Is there a service that is similar, that I can forward my google voice calls to, so that I get free incoming calls?
21:50.52p3nguinYou can forward your Google Voice number to any phone number you want.  I recommend forwarding it to a phone number you actually own/have control of.
21:51.18WIMPyYou can have numbers, you don't own?
21:52.37p3nguinWell, I don't own any phone numbers.  I have control of several, and I have several that I was granted use of.
21:52.54p3nguinAnd there's no comma in, "You can have numbers you don't own?"
21:54.18WIMPyHere, you own your numbers.
21:54.46p3nguinCan you explain how that works?
21:55.09p3nguinIs there a title of ownership or something?
21:55.13WIMPyWhat do you want to know?
21:55.36p3nguinI'm just curious how it works.
21:55.50riponhi all - does anyone use siptosis??
21:56.39riddleboxp3nguin, do you think google will eventually become a sip provider?
21:56.52riponeverytime i try to pass a call from asterisk to siptosis- this is what i get " SIP/siptosis-00000011 is circuit-busy"
21:57.12WIMPyThe only point where it's of any importance if you want your number ported to another carrier.
21:57.13p3nguinriddlebox: I don't quite understand the term "sip provider."  It really doesn't make sense to me.
21:57.52p3nguinriddlebox: In addition to what I told you seven minutes ago, you can also use Asterisk 1.8.3 and configure it to interconnect with Google Voice and Google Chat directly.
21:58.24p3nguinriddlebox: I've done it that way for a client and it seems to work quite well so far.
21:59.44riddleboxp3nguin,  yes I understand that, and I am doing it as well, but right now calls go out of google voice, and show my google voice number, if someone calls it back, it is forwarded to gizmo which gives me a free DID for incoming, so then calls are totally free inbound and outbound
21:59.47p3nguinriddlebox: You configure chan_gtalk and res_jabber to work directly with Google and skip forwarding numbers completely.
22:00.37p3nguinriddlebox: If you would configure chan_gtalk and res_jabber properly, there will be no forwarding to anything.
22:01.01riddleboxp3nguin, ahh so you can setup the chat part to do it, I will look into that
22:01.19riddleboxdidnt catch that
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22:01.37p3nguinriddlebox: Instead of forwarding the number to another number or gizmo, you uncheck any forwarding numbers, then check mark the one that says gtalk or google chat (I can't remember how it is labeled.
22:01.54p3nguin)
22:02.07riddleboxp3nguin, yeah after you said it I logged in and saw that, now I have more to read about ;)
22:02.12carrarSIP provider is anyone who can provide you access to the PSTN via RFC 3261
22:02.17volga629which video codec is preferable use on asterisk ?
22:02.26p3nguincarrar: That would be an ITSP.
22:02.38carrarcall it what you will
22:02.42carrarSIP
22:02.48carrarvs MGCP
22:02.51carraror h.232
22:02.54p3nguinI mean, you don't go around saying "http provider."
22:02.59carrarI do!
22:03.07carrarI need a new http provider
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22:03.31p3nguinI need to call my http provider and see if they will give me higher speeds.
22:03.53riddleboxohh that reminds me mine said they raised our speeds to 8mb
22:03.58p3nguinMy IRC and FTP provider sent me a new modem recently.
22:04.07p3nguinriddlebox: Which one?
22:04.13riddleboxcharter
22:04.46carrarwell you don't pay for http/irc/ftp
22:04.47riddleboxI think they lied, I just hit 5mb
22:04.49carrarbut if you did
22:04.50p3nguinriddlebox: Charter upgraded the 5 Mbit service to 8 Mbit service MONTHS AGO.
22:04.54carraryou could call them a provider
22:05.00kaldemarripon: that line alone is not very informative. enable sip debug to see what is going on when you make a call.
22:05.06p3nguinriddlebox: Now they have increased the 8 Mbit service to 12 Mbit service.  For free.
22:05.22riddleboxp3nguin, I see the billboards in st louis all the time, but everytime I check it I get 5mb
22:05.47p3nguinriddlebox: So now the lowest speed is still the 1 Mbit service, and the second level is 12 Mbit service.  There is nothing in between.
22:06.00riddleboxwow did the rates go up too?
22:06.10p3nguinriddlebox: Nope.  It was another free speed increase.
22:06.12riddleboxI cant remember what I pay a month
22:06.18carrartoo much!
22:06.19p3nguin$45
22:06.24p3nguinfor inet
22:06.28carrarouch
22:06.40riddleboxplus like $10 for taxes too lol
22:06.45p3nguin12 Mbit for $45 is a bit high, but there's not much other choice.
22:06.56carrar660 a year you could spend on something else!
22:06.58riddleboxI have always had good luck with their service
22:07.25riddleboxin 5 years we have only had 1 outage
22:07.47p3nguinYou can get it for $29.99/mo. for 12 months when you bundle it.
22:08.12p3nguinThe new speed is 12 down, 1 up.
22:08.17carrarMake your work pay for your internet!
22:08.41riddleboxwe have dish network for tv service multi room dvr's are the way to go
22:09.41riddleboxplus I was tired of buying hardware for mythtv -- had 4 tuner cards and in one evening I lost my power supply on the pc and it fried all of the cards, $600 worth of cards
22:09.50p3nguinThe current services are:  1 down, 128 k up.  12 down, 1 up.  18 down, 2 up.  25 down, 3 up.  60 down, 5 up.
22:10.36p3nguinI get 60 down, but I get more like 6-7 up.
22:11.23riddleboxwow thats nuts
22:12.05p3nguinSomething like five years ago I talked with Charter Business about what speed of service I could get.  The guy said the only thing he could give me was 5 down and 1 up.
22:12.37p3nguinI had to explain to him that he must not understand how services work, that I really would be much more satisfied with 1 down and 5 up.
22:13.34riddleboxyeah
22:14.01p3nguinHe wasn't able to grasp how upload/download works, that when someone would download FROM me, it uses their 5 Mbit downstream, but it would be using my 1 Mbit upstream.
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22:14.49riddleboxthose guys dont know how it all works, they just know how to hook it up
22:15.09p3nguinThey don't even really know how to hook up stuff.
22:15.45p3nguinI'm not sure if he ever caught on or not, but I eventually told him that $250/mo. for 1 Mbit upstream and one static IP address was effing ridiculous, and I would not be accepting his offer.
22:15.55riddleboxlook at their phone techs, they did a service cut for one of our customers, from AT&T, the guy installed their modem, then ran a feeder cable to the AT&T demarc, and wrapped his pairs directly to AT&T which then fed to us
22:16.36riddleboxnotice I said wrapped, he didnt even use a punchdown
22:16.44p3nguinriddlebox: Are you saying he did it correctly or incorrectly?
22:16.51riddleboxincorrectly
22:17.05p3nguinOh, there's no punch block in the outside demarc, is there?  I've never seen one.
22:17.31p3nguinI always run into the screws, which each has half a dozen washers on it.
22:17.32riddleboxhe was actually feeding dialtone back onto AT&T
22:17.50p3nguinI thought that's what you were saying, but I wasn't quite sure if I understood you right or not.
22:17.55riddleboxp3nguin, this was a business not a home, it is a 66 block inside
22:18.23p3nguinOh, inside.  Punch blocks inside are common, and I would have expected him to be able to use it properly.
22:18.44riddleboxI would expect him to if he is doing service cuts!
22:19.11p3nguinI told you they don't really know how to hook up stuff.
22:19.41riddleboxhe didnt even understand what he did wrong, I told the customer and they called him back, I showed him, and told him that someone could be tapping into their lines, and he said ohh well they have unlimited calling
22:19.43p3nguinThey honestly don't know anything.  I fix more stuff than they do.
22:20.00p3nguinhahaha
22:20.22p3nguinThat's a nice response.
22:20.58riddleboxman I was pissed, I told the guy how can you do this work if you dont understand wiring
22:21.14p3nguinNo one that works for them understands anything.
22:22.21riddleboxyeah we actually get hired to work on their office pbx systems lol
22:26.01p3nguinThey always want to run an eQA any time I call them to tell them something is wrong.  If they run the eQA and it shows the numbers are fine, they think nothing can be wrong.
22:26.20p3nguinIf the numbers are within the correct range, it's find and nothing else can possibly be wrong.
22:26.30p3nguins/find/fine/
22:26.30CRCinAU_p3nguin: conferencing works :D
22:26.49p3nguincrcinau_: What version of Asterisk do you use?
22:26.56CRCinAU_1.6.2.17
22:27.00CRCinAU_with trunk
22:27.03p3nguincrcinau_: You have a 'conf' soft key?
22:27.07CRCinAU_err with trunk for chan-sccp-b
22:27.11p3nguincrcinau_: not confrn
22:27.11CRCinAU_confrn
22:27.15p3nguincrcinau_: oh
22:27.24p3nguincrcinau_: I thought they changed it to conf only.
22:27.44CRCinAU_but now doing: sccp restart SEPblah causes asterisk to crash ;)
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22:27.59p3nguincrcinau_: So how did you get 'confrn' to finally show up on the phone soft key?  It was showing ??? on the key.
22:28.06CRCinAU_usign trunk.
22:28.13CRCinAU_then compile with --enable-conference
22:28.25CRCinAU_the usual make; make install
22:28.45CRCinAU_then change the softkeymap a little to replace meetme with confrn
22:28.51p3nguinOkay, so the --enable-conference was the key to success on the button.
22:28.56CRCinAU_seems to be
22:29.14p3nguinI can't compile it with --enable-conference because my Asterisk does not support it.
22:29.23CRCinAU_upgrade ;)
22:29.24CRCinAU_lol
22:29.37p3nguinI'm using the CURRENT version.  There is nothing to upgrade.
22:29.59p3nguinChanging to a different branch that I have no desire to use would not be an upgrade.
22:30.03CRCinAU_yeah, it is kinda annoying that there is 1.4.x, 1.6.x, and 1.8.x
22:30.04CRCinAU_but meh
22:30.20p3nguinThere's 1.4, 1.6.x, and 1.8.
22:32.02p3nguinI recently tried 1.8.2.4 for testing purposes, since I eventually want to change to the 1.8 branch, but it ended in failure.
22:32.46CRCinAU_:|
22:32.47p3nguinI admit that I didn't spend a lot of time on it to see why it ended in failure.  Maybe soon I can find out what's wrong and get it going.
22:32.58CRCinAU_does chan-sccp-b support 1.8 yet?
22:33.08CRCinAU_I don't recall seeing anything about it
22:33.10p3nguinNot that I can tell.
22:33.29p3nguinI tried compiling it against my installed 1.8.2.4, and it didn't work out.
22:33.51p3nguinIt isn't listed as a supported version, but I tried anyway just to make sure.
22:33.57CRCinAU_nods
22:34.19CRCinAU_I think thats what makes it hard having 3 branches :\
22:34.36CRCinAU_eveything gets fragmented
22:37.03p3nguinI use 1.4 for anything of my own that is in production.
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