IRC log for #asterisk on 20110214

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10:01.35*** topic/#asterisk is Asterisk: The Open Source PBX and Telephony Platform (asterisk.org) -=- Asterisk 1.8.2.3 (2010/01/26), 1.6.2.16.1 (2010/01/18), 1.4.39.1 (2010/01/18), *-Addons 1.6.2.3, 1.4.13 (2010/01/14), dahdi-linux 2.4.0 (2010/09/01), dahdi-tools 2.4.0 (2010/09/01), libpri 1.4.11.5 (2010/11/22) -=- Visit the new official Asterisk wiki: wiki.asterisk.org -=- http://xkcd.com/806/
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10:18.52Vecschmidts : The other day you sent me a diff that you said I could create a patch from to resolve bug id 18647 (chanspy causing channel hangup). The diff was of pbx.c, is that the only file that requres patching ?
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11:09.44DelphiWorldhello guys
11:09.53DelphiWorldanyone used cisco as5300 with asterisk?
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11:26.41schmidtsvec as far as i remember yes
11:33.22oblomWhen asterisk sends invite to local user for call that arrives from outside (sip) he always rewrites From so it appears like it from local domain ?
11:35.08kaldemaroblom: not quite. it sends a new invite with the internal address though.
11:36.15oblomit's what i meant :)  Is it possible to do something so original address will preserved in new invite or it will break something ?
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12:01.18Vecschmidts : when I try to compile the patched version I get undefined reference to `ast_channel_clear_softhangup'
12:01.40VecWhat kind of stability could I expect from Asterisk 1.4 SVN ?
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14:47.36Amnesiais there any good step by step guide or w/e for asterisks configuration?
14:47.54AmnesiaI'm editing extensions.conf atm but it still kinda looks like gibberish
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14:56.18oblomAmnesia: http://astbook.asteriskdocs.org/en/2nd_Edition/asterisk-book-html/asterisk-book.html#asterisk-CHP-5-SECT-1
14:56.47Amnesiaoblom: thx $$
14:56.59cd101hello all. I am new to Asterisk. I am looking for clarification. Do I need to rebuild asterisk to get support for new codecs/formats? I am looking to integrate a new codec into 1.4->current
14:58.26Faustovhah
14:58.31FaustovI didn't know there's a second edition
14:58.51WIMPyOr a third?
14:58.53Faustovoblom: any idea if it was recently released?
14:59.22WIMPyhttp://ofps.oreilly.com/titles/9780596517342/
14:59.24oblomno clue
15:02.28pabelangercd101: which codecs/formats?
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15:04.59cd101It uses a custom format
15:07.04pabelangercd101: You should look at https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Media+Architecture+Proposal
15:07.10cd101it is definitly not listed in format.h, which is why I was asking. It appears that I would have to rebuild a custom Asterisk with support for a newly defined format.
15:07.18cd101thank you. Looking..
15:08.28pabelangercd101: dvossel is in the middle of the rewrite.  He is also adding new codecs now (SILK, more wideband support, etc)
15:10.30WIMPyIs there BTW any info on the progress on that?
15:12.13WIMPyOr on the target? Will it be complete for 1.8.4?
15:12.28pabelangerWIMPy: dvossel has been giving updates on the weekly asterisk developers conference
15:12.32pabelangerno, 1.10
15:12.37WIMPyOr do we get some intermediate state(s)?
15:13.58WIMPyjust noticed that the old stuff doesn't work any more, but the new features as per the web page don't either.
15:14.10schmidtswimpy dvossel is know working on the fixtheworld phase 2 and AFAIK there are 3 phases but i think they will only come for 1.10 not for 1.8
15:14.27malcolmdcorrect, only for 1.10
15:15.24kaiiis there any active effort to support RTAudio in asterisk?
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15:16.39malcolmdkaii: no, digium is making no efforts to license rtaudio from microsoft.  we haven't been aware of any substantial market interest in such a thing that would encourage us to pursue that avenue.  it's not an open codec, so...
15:17.00kaiiok, thx for the clear answer.
15:18.02malcolmdnp.  if people start beating down our doors for it and it looks like we can recoup our engineering and legal expenses, it's something we'd consider.
15:18.58malcolmdwhat's your interest?  just that it's used by lync / ocs?  is there a technical advantage to it over other codecs?
15:19.02kaiiwas just wondering if there would be any chance to integrate asterisk with OCS natively without needing a media gateway, now that asterisk supports TCP and MTLS..
15:19.11malcolmdah
15:19.14kaiis/media gateway/"mediation server"/
15:20.44WIMPyBTW: Does anyone know the current legal status of the GSM HR and EFR CODECS? I've seen that they are supported by OpenBSC.
15:22.09malcolmdwikipedia indicates that EFR is covered by patented ACELP technology and licensed by VoiceAge
15:22.56WIMPyI read that, but I couldn't find any info on the age of that patent.
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15:24.38pabelangerGood ole microsoft and proprietary software
15:25.05malcolmdfor 1.10, we've got a complete set of slinear modes now, and the first two codecs to take advantage will be speex32kHz and silk - available at 8, 12, 16, and 24kHz
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15:26.55wonderworldis there a more simple voicemail app for asterisk? basicly i'd just need listen to messages, jump to next/prev and delete. Everything without long anouncements.
15:27.47pabelangerwonderworld: app_minivm
15:27.58wonderworldthanks, i'll have a look
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15:37.45Amnesiahm, how can I change my voicemail lang to nl instead of the default english voicemail?
15:37.55Amnesiaalready placed the folder to /var/lib/asterisk/sounds/
15:38.32WIMPyIt uses the language of the channel, as does everything else.
15:38.47Amnesiahm, and how can I change it?
15:38.55Amnesiathe channel language:)
15:39.54WIMPyEither in the channel/peer config or in the dialplan.
15:40.11WIMPyCHANNEL(language)
15:40.40Amnesiasorry I'm still kinda new with asterisk
15:40.47Amnesiabut in which configfile
15:41.10Amnesiaand I guess it'll also not understand: "CHANNEL(nl)" on one single linge
15:41.13Amnesialine*
15:41.15WIMPyYou didn't say how you ae calling, so I can't be more specific.
15:41.29Amnesiathrough a sip phone
15:41.37WIMPyNo, Set(CHANNEL(language)=nl)
15:41.44WIMPyThen you can change it in sip.conf.
15:42.27Amnesiaat the top of http://pastie.org/1562959 ?
15:42.55wdoekes2Amnesia: in the extensions.conf
15:42.57Amnesiais that correct?
15:43.00Amnesiaah
15:43.10wdoekes2before the VoiceMail()
15:43.37Amnesiathere is not VoiceMail() in my extenstions.conf^^
15:43.37WIMPyin sip.conf it's just language=nl.
15:43.56WIMPyVoiceMailMain(...
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15:44.21Amnesiawoot it's working
15:44.56Amnesiathx:D
15:45.05Amnesialanguage=nl apparantly already worked:p
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16:26.42Amnesiahm, how can I change the default dahdi context?
16:27.07Amnesia/etc/asterisk/chan_dahdi.conf -> context=foobar?
16:27.10russellbchange the "context" option in /etc/asterisk/chan_dahdi.conf
16:27.12russellbyes.
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16:27.29jm|laptophello :)
16:27.49Amnesiarussellb: already did that
16:27.56Amnesiait still states default
16:28.08russellbmake sure you put it _before_ the channel => line(s)
16:28.43Amnesiak sec:)
16:28.45Faustovhah, I struggled with that on the days
16:29.02russellbchan_dahdi.conf is weird
16:29.06jm|laptopI'm using cdr_mysql and I'm trying to work out what to enter in the config file so that enum translated numbers are recorded
16:29.15jm|laptopis there an alias I should use?
16:29.50Amnesia^
16:30.10jm|laptoplastdata is showing me the translated SIP/IAX address,  dst is showing ~ sw-150-sip
16:30.37Amnesiawhen I enter : "context=outgoing" at the top of /etc/asterisk/chan_dahdi.conf there arent any channels at all:/
16:30.55Amnesia(outgoing does exist in my extensions.conf)
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16:34.13Amnesiagoddamnit
16:35.08Amnesianow I've typed "context=outgoing" underneath [channels] it's set to default again:S
16:36.30AmnesiaFaustov: how'd you fix it?
16:43.22Faustovffs, don't ask questions then disappear ;)
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16:43.55leifmadsenindeed
16:47.00jayteepatience is a virtue....yet there are so few virtuous people left.
16:48.07tzafrirFaustov, he forgot he asked them
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16:59.25bmoraca_workhow is Asterisk's MGCP support?  is it decent?
17:01.58Qwellbmoraca_work: not really
17:02.15bmoraca_workhrm
17:03.23bmoraca_workmatch_auth_username doesn't work for peers anymore, so i'm looking for a better way to get my Adtran TA900 FXS ports to work with Asterisk
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17:18.46Kobazbmoraca_work: what i do is have to block the adtran ip on all my local sip users, and allow it on the fxs users... and i match on the station number defined in the adtran
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17:19.31Kobazotherwise if i get a callerid from the adtran like say 5000, which also matches a sip user 5000, asterisk matches the wrong user and the call is rejected... so i have to deny the adtran ip all over the place
17:19.40Kobazi wish they supported a from_user type thing
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17:31.18bmoraca_workKobaz: the problem is that i've got multiple FXS ports on my Adtrans.  so, the first one to register is the only one that ends up being usable...the rest of them come back with a username mismatch
17:31.29Kobazlet me see what i do
17:32.09bmoraca_workin a 1.6.2.0, match_auth_username took care of it without issue
17:32.23bmoraca_workon 1.6.2.10 and 1.6.2.16.1, match_auth_username doesn't seem to do anything
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17:32.57bmoraca_workproblem is that 1.6.2.0 has bugs in t.38 passthru, so I can't use it anymore
17:33.12Kobazoooh
17:33.18Kobazyou kno
17:33.27Kobazi never set up an adtran fxs with asterisk
17:33.33Kobazit just comes in on the t1 and goes straight to the fxs
17:33.36Kobazthey are fax machines
17:33.44bmoraca_workahh
17:33.55jkroonbmoraca_work, are those issues resolved in 1.6.2.16 already or not?
17:34.31bmoraca_workjkroon: match_auth_username doesn't work worth shit in 1.6.2.16.1.  the t.38 bugs I was seeing have not appeared in 1.6.2.10 or 1.6.2.16.1
17:34.47brainiacdoes anyone know why a call would have terrible audio quality problems when you barge in on it via a graphic manager?
17:35.04jkroonbmoraca_work, match_auth_username ?
17:35.17jkroongood to know t.38 is supposed to work finally in asterisk.
17:35.46bmoraca_workit's supposed to tell Asterisk to match a peer based on the username provided in the proxy-authentication or the digest authentication, rather than use From: header or IP address
17:36.06Kobazbrainiac: that makes no sense.. the tool you use to send commands is going to have nothing to do with how asterisk handles the call
17:37.27brainiacregardless of the tool, a call, when barged in on sounds VERY distorted.
17:37.39Kobazhow are you doing a barge
17:38.06bmoraca_worksounds like it could be a timing issue
17:38.29brainiacKobaz: using a tool called iview
17:38.38Kobazthat doesn't tell me anything
17:38.43Kobazwhat command is it sending to the manager
17:39.17brainiacthat's what I'm in the process of finding out
17:39.58Kobaztcpdump -i <interface> port 5038 -s0 -A
17:41.10brainiacthank you. brb
17:42.20bmoraca_workiview creates a meetme room and transfers all channels into that meetme room
17:43.33jkroonolder versions of meetme had to have a dahdi timing source.
17:43.38brainiacthere's noone in the office where the phone system is located, so I'll try again later
17:45.00brainiacjkroon: I should be able to fix that
17:46.03Kobazrun dahdi_test
17:47.41Kattymmmsammich
17:51.56jkroonbrainiac, do you know if the ChanSpy() application has the same problem?
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17:53.56brainiacI don't know, how can I test that?
17:54.12Kobazdahdi_test
17:54.33Kobazchanspy doesn't use dahdi so it would be fine, but run the timing test
17:54.52Kobazcrpapy audio in meetme is a dahdi problem more likly than not
17:56.12brainiacok
18:08.47jkroonbrainiac, set up an extension to go into ChanSpy(SIP/foo) where foo is the channel name of some sip channel, eg ChanSpy(SIP/100,ds) will spy on a SIP channel starting with 100.
18:09.23jkroonKobaz, never versions of asterisk uses timerfd right?
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18:25.52leifmadsenjkroon: newer versions *can* use timerfd
18:26.18leifmadsen(they can also use res_timing_dahdi, res_timing_pthread, and res_timing_timerfd)
18:26.26leifmadsenI still prefer res_timing_dahdi though
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18:38.10jkroonleifmadsen, any particular reason why?
18:41.55brainiacjkroon: ChanSpy() is the app that is having the prob I mentioned
18:42.10Kobazleifmadsen: why is dahdi a better option?
18:42.42russellbover timerfd?
18:43.14russellbres_timing_pthread is just inefficient and eats CPU
18:43.19russellbdahdi and timerfd both seem to work fine
18:43.39russellbtimerfd is nice in that it doesn't require you to install something extra (DAHDI) if you didn't need it otherwise
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18:44.00Kobazyeah
18:44.15Kobazi was thinking timerfd is probably the best bet if you dont have dahdi hardware
18:44.23russellbyup
18:44.43drmessano-ltShame that CentOS 5's kernel is too old
18:45.00russellbyou have the power to update it
18:45.06drmessano-ltOf course
18:45.31russellbbut it does take effort
18:45.35drmessano-ltBut then you void the GPL warranty and the RPM ninjas come get you
18:45.35russellband that's no fun
18:46.43drmessano-ltOk no, but it's not like they have some extended repo with a newer kernel, so for most it would become another administrative burden
18:47.09drmessano-ltBut after 6.x gets out there, it will be nice to just use timerfd
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18:51.28drmessano-ltIs the 1.8 branch known to currently be broken in SVN?
18:52.18drmessano-ltI updated last week and had to roll back like 2 weeks to get a working build.  Updated last night and the same.
18:53.18russellbbroken in what way?
18:54.42drmessano-ltIt compiles, can register devices to it.. but no calls complete.  I havent dug more into it because I rolled back to working revisions and rebuilt both times
18:54.50drmessano-ltSIP <> SIP
18:57.50carrarWho uses SIP anyways!!
18:58.21WIMPyEveryone how can;t afford something decent.
18:59.52tzafrirdrmessano, a RHEL5-compatible with a newer kernel: http://www.oracle.com/us/technologies/linux/index.html
19:00.37drmessano-ltooooh
19:00.53tzafrirBut then again, this is Oracle
19:01.16carrarUNBREAKABLE!!
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19:01.33tzafrir(because it's already broken)
19:01.38drmessano-ltlol
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19:29.00BesticlesQuestion.  I'm writing a ChanSpy piece, plugged in AMI support to detect who chanspy is spying on.  I wanted to use that AMI to PlayDTMF to control chanspy within my app.  PlayDTMF gets queued successfully, and you can hear it on the chanspy.  But it doesn't do what it's suppose to do (Move to the next agent).  Any suggestions?
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19:30.12teloniuszI'm trying to dialout with an analog card, but I get: [Feb 14 20:28:54] WARNING[2560]: app_dial.c:1547 dial_exec_full: Unable to create channel of type 'DAHDI' (cause 0 - Unknown)
19:30.21teloniuszhow to debug this more closely?
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19:31.45WIMPyBesticles: You can't use playdtmp as a remote control fro dialplan applications.
19:32.23WIMPyteloniusz: Looks like you don't have chan_dahdi loaded. Possibly because it's not configured properly.
19:33.42WIMPyBesticles: How are you playing dtmf at all, while you're in chanspy?
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19:35.08BesticlesWIMPy: I was using the PlayDTMF in Manager Interface.
19:35.23BesticlesIt definitely plays it, just doesnt remote control it.
19:35.47WIMPySure. It plays it to the user, not the other way round.
19:35.52BesticlesI figured I was doing something wrong since the AMI event traffic supports me being able to detect exactly who we are spying on.
19:35.53teloniuszWIMPy: I'd like it to be so simple, but 'dahdi show channels' tells me that there are 16 channels, all "In Service"
19:36.05BesticlesSo, I need to use the API for the actual soft phone to get this done.
19:36.08BesticlesGotchya, thanks.
19:37.21WIMPyteloniusz: Ok, so did you specify a valid channel or group then?
19:38.17drudge`any sip resellers to recomend? currently using dash carrier services
19:42.10teloniuszWIMPy: how do I check that? There's a single phone line connected to first socket of my card
19:42.30teloniuszbut waaait, maybe I should have used a splitter...
19:42.42WIMPyWhat does your Dial look like?
19:46.42teloniuszWIMPy: ok, disregard this; I'm just quite stupid
19:47.18teloniuszI've connected RJ-11 2-wire plug to RJ-45 8-wire socket
19:47.39teloniusznow it works :>
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19:53.15dacm_workHI guys.
19:54.26dacm_workOften it seems that when I receive a call, they do not hear me immediately and are normally the first to say `Hello?'. Is this likely a firewall issue? (i.e. They must speak first before the connection is made.)
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19:54.51dacm_workI'm running asterisk behind a NAT, but the required ports _should_ be forwarded.
19:55.03dacm_workTrying to track down the problem.
19:55.36dacm_workI also can't divert incoming calls back outside to the PTSN.
19:55.55dacm_workOr rather, I get no audio when doing so.
19:56.19dacm_workAny hints / pointers would be hugely appreciated.
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19:59.46provoloneI want to repeatedly call this person who owes me money from multiple numbers until he answers or gets a new phone number. If possible I would like to dial my cell and be connected in the even that he answers. I dont want to use large packages that need lots of config, but just a simple script. Is AGI the simplest solution to my problem? Should I investigate a simpler package than asterisk ?
20:01.52provolone'in the event'
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20:07.57Kobazprovolone: make sure you don't violate the fair debt collection practices act
20:08.47Kobazprovolone: get a good lawyer
20:08.50provoloneno kneecapping ?
20:11.31Qwell...
20:14.36_Corey_lol
20:15.09pabelanger~sipnat
20:15.09infobot[~sipnat] Quick guide on configuring Asterisk + SIP behind NAT: http://www.aocomputing.net/?p=3 otherwise check the WIKI at http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+SIP+NAT+solutions .  Typically, you MUST configure these settings with appropriate values in the [general] section of sip.conf: nat, canreinvite, externhost or externip, and localnet.
20:15.16pabelangerdacm_work: ^^
20:15.53KobazThe FDCPA is a strict liability law, which means that a consumer need not prove actual damages in order to claim statutory damages of up to $1,000 plus reasonable attorney fees if a debt collector is proven to have violated the FDCPA.[25
20:16.17dacm_workpabelanger: But does it sound like a NAT issue?
20:16.52voxterAnyone know how asterisk 1.4.x decides matching order on incoming call peers that may have the same host= specified?
20:17.07pabelangerdacm_work: Yes, review your settings.
20:17.23pabelangerCould also just be delay between the PSTN network and your ITSP
20:19.35_Corey_anyone played around with the CONNECTEDLINE function?  I'm trying to figure out if it's possible to update the info on a ringing extension or if it needs to be answered.
20:20.25_Corey_works pretty well otherwise
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20:33.58dacm_workpabelanger: Ok thanks.
20:34.11raden_work<PROTECTED>
20:34.23raden_workthat keeps coming up like every 60 seconds
20:35.27raden_workhow often does it need to do a freaking lookup ?
20:35.40raden_workdriving me nuts
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20:55.51pabelangerraden_work: Then change the setting
20:56.02raden_workwhat setting is it ?
20:56.44pabelangerraden_work: dnsmgr.conf
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20:58.23raden_worksee if that works
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21:04.46WindBackHi, In which way can I launch an script each time I start asterisk and when I restart it from CLI> doing core restart now
21:04.48WindBack?
21:09.53jkroondoes anybody know whether grandstream also has a nice scheme to allocate mac blocks to phone models like snom does?  Eg http://wiki.snom.com/Settings/mac
21:10.02jkroonif so - any ideas where I can obtain it from?
21:10.24Qwell"grandstream" and "nice" don't often go in the same sentence
21:10.53jkroonQwell, hehe, no, i guess not, but the question stands.
21:11.21_Corey_It helps to speak Chinese
21:11.48jkroonthat would be for the horde of huawei phones branded under various names like ip touch etc ...
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21:15.26_Sam--im the sole grandstream dissenter.....but ive had nothing but fine service from many old Grandstream GXP2000s here at my place.
21:18.12jkroongot one myself, and a bunch of gxp2020 and 285s and the majority of them work reasonably well, nothing compared to SNOM or Polycom but alas, dirt cheap in comparison and therefor preferred by the majority of my clients :(
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21:19.36Kobazi tried out the grandstream "enterprise" fxo gateways, since they are like half the price of anything else
21:19.40Kobazboy do they suck hard
21:19.43b0otIs asterisk the only pbx that can do sip registerations without a password?
21:19.48b0otas opposed to something like cme?
21:19.52jkroonKobaz, i won't touch one of those again either.
21:20.06Kobazcan't complete calls 50% of the time
21:20.20Kobazother than that they work fine
21:20.28jkroonif it even picks up the fact that it's ringing or doesn't echo the living crap out of you.
21:20.47Kobazand tech support takes a month to respond
21:21.04Kobazi just heard back on friday finally after a month of silence on my issue... "sorry our ticket system accidentally closed your ticket"
21:21.05jkroonTo GS's defence they did take some effort to fix it for my case after kicking up quite a stink with my supplier.
21:21.16Kobazlike hell it did... status showed "open" the whole time
21:21.52jkroonoh well, any other ideas on obtaining the model of a detected phone on the network short of telnetting into it?
21:21.54Nuggettelnet is eeeeeeevil!
21:22.28jkroonNugget, if it's the only way I'll get the model (compared to having to ask the user) I'll do it.  Will probably use nc rather though.
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21:27.10jkroonsleep 0.1 | telnet 192.168.47.55 2>/dev/null | sed -nre 's/^Grandstream ([^ ]+) .*/\1/p'
21:27.25jkroonvery unclean but it seems to work against at least GXP2000, GXP285 and BT200
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21:29.13_Corey_jkroon: You could figure out the manufacturer based on the MAC probably
21:29.26_Corey_jkroon: Wouldn't help with models though
21:30.24jkroon_Corey_, yea, grandstream has the 3-octet prefix 000b82, and SNOM 000413, for SNOM I can then subclass based on the rest of the MAC, but GS doesn't seem to follow any standard.
21:31.06jkroonThose are primarily the two I'm concerned with at the moment, but will probably want to try and add linksys, siemens and cisco later on.
21:31.20drmessano-ltGS uses what MACs they get from the recycled Barbie and 3COM NIC's they build their phones out of..
21:31.38provolonethese configs are so much fun
21:31.47drmessano-ltDont be surprised to find the door handle from an old Datsun on a Grandstream phone
21:32.17jkroondrmessano-lt, so what phones do you use/prefer?
21:32.47drmessano-ltWell, since Cisco killed off the nice Linksys phones I liked, though they weren't perfect, I prefer Polycom
21:33.23jkroondrmessano-lt, ok, polycom are really cool but I have exactly zero clients willing to fork out for those.
21:33.36drmessano-lt$100 for a phone is too much?
21:33.39QwellThey aren't willing to pay $100?
21:33.56jkroonwhich polycom phone comes with that price tag?
21:34.06_Corey_They still have those linksys phones... they're just rebranded cisco now
21:34.11drmessano-ltIP331 for one..
21:34.14jkroonI sit at the southern most tip of Africa ...
21:34.17_Corey_Still have SPA model numbers
21:34.23Qwelljkroon: 320s are like $80
21:34.25drmessano-lt_Corey_, they are not the same under the hood anymore
21:34.44jkroonQwell, not quite over here.
21:34.47drmessano-lt_Corey_, I deployed a few.. they're horribly buggy
21:34.50_Corey_drmessano-lt: The provisioning template is almost identical
21:34.56jkroonthe 320s are more like $120 USD doing a direct translation.
21:35.05_Corey_I'm not a fan but we had to work with some recently and didn't have many problems
21:35.56jkrooncompared to GS which is around $90 doing a direct conversion.
21:36.04drmessano-ltBut GS is cheap crap
21:36.21drmessano-ltI can get a GS here in the US for $70.. but why
21:36.37jkroonnot argueing.  but unfortunately people here think with their wallets not their brains.
21:37.05QwellSo then show them why they'd be throwing money away by using GS.
21:37.06jkroona crap product at $80 compared to a good product at $90 will innevitably sell in MUCH greater volumes.
21:37.29jkroonQwell, do tell ?
21:37.43QwellHow much are you spending, in your time, on just this one issue?
21:38.27jkroononly been looking at it for about an hour or two now, and i only need to solve it once.
21:38.39QwellNow multiply that by 78,000, for the other issues you'll see.
21:38.47jkroon:)
21:38.52raden_worki added another g729 codec file how do i get it to reload
21:39.10drmessano-ltjkroon, that's an argument that holds little water with me.  Everyone wants the best value for their money, which begins with "I want whatever is cheapest"... that goes for any product.. But there is reason they sell not only the $250 crap 32-inch TV, but the higher quality 32-inch TV for $300.
21:39.10jkroonasterisk -rx "core restart ???" (probably now)
21:40.16jkroondrmessano-lt, because those who care about a 32" TV is the guy that is going to use it.  a typical managerial type gives not a crap.
21:40.33jkroon_typical_ - at least from my experience.
21:40.40jkroonnot all.
21:41.05jkroonfortunately.
21:41.12drmessano-ltWell, what are they going to use with these phones, since a PBX is probably more than they need anyone, and should be using POTS phones?
21:41.18drmessano-ltanyway*
21:41.46drmessano-ltCouldnt they just get by with some $20 multiline POTS phones?
21:43.12jkroonthey often do.
21:43.34jkroonor rent an analog pabx that basically does incoming+outgoing calls.
21:44.00jkroonnothing interesting.
21:46.39jkroonanyway.  SNOM are at least starting to take over slowly but surely at most of my clients.
21:47.13jkroonit takes a few dead phones before they "get it", or "muffled" sound, or some other similar crap.  even though you warn them beforehand.
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21:50.07dacm_workpabelanger: I've made those changes to sip.conf, but it still doesn't seem to work. Is there any way to debug?
21:55.04jkroonok well guys, thanks for the GS bashing session, i'm off to bed.
21:55.22batfastadHi everyone. I've been looking for some info on e164.arpa and enum. I'm in the UK and the registry of 4.4.e164.arpa has been delegated to Nominet, the body that operate the .uk domain registry. They list only 2 registrars of uk enum domains, and one of those isn't currently processing applications in the UK zone
21:57.04WindBackexit
21:58.14batfastadBut I've found e164.org and that seems like a great idea... what's the status of that? Do most Voip providers list their ranges on it? Guess I should list our numbers as the more on there the better.
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22:02.40drmessano-ltI was setup on e164.org but I think something is broken on their end
22:03.06drmessano-ltI couldnt add any new numbers.. the test calls didnt come in and the page to schedule them in broken as well
22:03.28drmessano-ltFeels a little abandoned
22:03.38WIMPyWorked for me, but noone used it so far.
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22:07.52batfastadYeah. There was a link for a forum on there and thought I'd look to see how many posts etc were on there but the forum's down. Shame as it's a great idea.
22:10.37batfastadNot surprised e164.arpa's not taking off though as it's not in the telcos interests
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22:13.56drmessano-ltWIMPy, have you tried to add a number lately?
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22:21.10WIMPyI'd have to donate to do so.
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22:33.37nsgnso i'm getting bruteforced hard core..what's the preferred way to protect a system that must be open to the net on 5060?
22:34.01nsgnour strong passwords are keeping them out, but the number of open channels as they attempt to register is really bogging my bandwidth
22:34.06adeeliptables
22:34.35nsgnis there a way to configure this where after x number of failed sip registrations you get on the blacklist?
22:34.51nsgnbecause our equipment will never fail this test and i'd love for it to be pretty quick to ban
22:34.58leifmadsenbatfastad: see what I'm about to link you for more information about e164.*
22:35.00leifmadsen~newbook
22:35.00infobotHelp review the 3rd edition of the Asterisk book published by O'Reilly at http://ofps.oreilly.com/titles/9780596517342/  Released under a Creative Commons license: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/us/
22:35.26chazzamnsgn: look into fail2ban
22:35.31WIMPynsgn: Listen on AMI and set iptables.
22:35.47russellbthe security chapter in that book covers how to set up fail2ban
22:36.17nsgnok
22:36.18nsgnthx
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22:37.23MemXCan someone point me in the right direction for the most 'correct' way to re-compile DAHDI to include OSLEC on AsteriskNOW 1.71 ?
22:38.31dacm_workHmm, is there any reason why a softphone running on my * box would not be able to send out audio. (Calls connect ok.)
22:38.50dacm_workIs it the same issue as a NAT?
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22:53.38WIMPyHmm. No mention of RTP attacks in the security chapter.
22:55.49russellbthere are a lot of things we couldn't cover.  The realm of what you could potentially cover is so massive ....
22:56.12russellbwe felt the SIP security (scanning for accounts and brute forcing passwords) were the most prevalent issues being faced
22:56.32russellbit's certainly not intended to cover all things VoIP security
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22:57.37WIMPyBut RTP attacks seem to be a good way to make some cash with you 0900 number from standard Asterisk installations.
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22:59.01stephenwI've got a very simple asterisk configuration.
22:59.10stephenwI'm trying to get a conference bridge working, using ConfBridge
22:59.35stephenwI've got everything apparently working (I can call into the bridge, the logs show attempts to play on-enter sounds)
22:59.42stephenwBut asterisk isn't sending out any RTP.
22:59.58stephenwI've verified with tcpdump that it is receiving RTP from the UA
23:00.04stephenwBut it isn't sending out any RTP packets.
23:00.09stephenwAny ideas what could cause this?
23:00.39toresbestephenw: enable RTP debug on the console?
23:00.55toresbestephenw: rtp set debug on
23:01.06stephenwYep, did that.
23:01.19stephenwTonnes of: Got  RTP packet from    64.247.129.37:49860 (type 18, seq 023260, ts 3076334795, len 000020)
23:01.28stephenwNo indication of sending RTP packets.
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23:13.10stephenwAny ideas?
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23:14.36z4nD4Rhi some tutorial how to implement zrtp on asterisk?
23:15.10russellbzRTP is not supported by Asterisk.
23:17.01quintanaz4nD4R, http://zfoneproject.com/docs/asterisk/man/html/u_guide.html
23:17.02z4nD4Rrussellb: http://www.zfoneproject.com/prod_asterisk.html ?
23:17.35z4nD4Rquintana: this look better, not? http://www.zfoneproject.com/prod_asterisk.html
23:18.05russellbnot officially supported
23:18.47quintanaand the patch is for asterisk 1.4
23:18.49pabelangerteehee; 1-888-DIGIUM1
23:19.15z4nD4Rquintana: does not work with 1.8?
23:20.13Kobazthe girl on the main page is pretty hot
23:20.14quintanano i don't think but maybe you can send an email to the author ?
23:20.46z4nD4Rquintana: u right i try it
23:26.56z4nD4Ri find... that zrtp work not so gut like srtp.. is this true?
23:28.09stephenwI've got a very simple asterisk configuration.
23:28.14stephenwI'm trying to get a conference bridge working, using ConfBridge
23:28.19stephenwBut asterisk isn't sending out any RTP.
23:28.25stephenwI've verified with tcpdump that it is receiving RTP from the UA
23:28.34stephenwBut it isn't sending out any RTP packets.
23:28.37stephenwTonnes of: Got  RTP packet from    64.247.129.37:49860 (type 18, seq 023260, ts 3076334795, len 000020)
23:28.43stephenwSee that plenty of times with rtp debug on
23:28.47stephenwbut never any outgoing
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23:50.48stephenwI've got a very simple asterisk configuration.
23:50.50stephenwI'm trying to get a conference bridge working, using ConfBridge
23:50.51stephenwBut asterisk isn't sending out any RTP.
23:50.53stephenwI've verified with tcpdump that it is receiving RTP from the UA
23:50.54stephenwBut it isn't sending out any RTP packets.
23:50.57stephenwTonnes of: Got  RTP packet from    64.247.129.37:49860 (type 18, seq 023260, ts 3076334795, len 000020)
23:51.00stephenwSee that plenty of times with rtp debug on
23:51.03stephenwbut never any outgoing
23:51.08stephenwany ideas?

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