IRC log for #asterisk on 20100907

`00:01.22`	`*** join/#asterisk chilicuil (~chilicuil@unaffiliated/chilicuil)`
`00:07.09`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Slingky: "noload => app_voicemail_odbc.so"`
`00:07.13`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Slingky: "noload => app_voicemail_imap.so"`
`00:24.33`	`*** join/#asterisk M0rg0th (~myself@bl8-79-218.dsl.telepac.pt)`
`00:24.58`	`M0rg0th`	`anyone ever used a winbond ISDN card with asterisk? driver is w6692pci`
`00:26.19`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`m0Some people have`
`00:26.25`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`M0rg0th: Some people have`
`00:26.41`	`M0rg0th`	`with sucess?`
`00:27.01`	`M0rg0th`	`I can't make dahdi recognizeit`
`00:27.26`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`M0rg0th: Could be that DAHDI doesn't support it at all. mISDN does however`
`00:27.58`	`M0rg0th`	`so I need to use asterisk 1.4?`
`00:28.15`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`M0rg0th: I never said that`
`00:28.51`	`M0rg0th`	`I tried misdn-inti scan and it cames back empty`
`00:29.06`	`M0rg0th`	`misdn-init`
`00:30.50`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`M0rg0th: http://www.google.ca/#hl=en&source=hp&q=winbond+ISDN+asterisk&aq=f&aqi=g10&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&fp=1f5a6734ff76adb4`
`00:30.59`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`M0rg0th: Lots of references. Go read for a bit`
`00:31.22`	`puzzled`	`M0rg0th: in my experience the only reliable BRI support is with an Eicon Diva Server card and chan_capi`
`00:33.17`	`M0rg0th`	`well, I was trying to use this one because I have one, but if I have to I'll buy a new one`
`00:33.48`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`M0rg0th: You should go look for a bit now, Others have used winbond cards with mISDn successfully.`
`00:36.35`	`M0rg0th`	`I have been reading for awhile`
`00:37.13`	`M0rg0th`	`and I have also tryed several **trix distros`
`00:37.41`	`M0rg0th`	`but none seems to recognize and use the card`
`00:38.35`	`M0rg0th`	`in trixbox I had best results when I did modprobe w9962pc, it created /dev/isdn but then nothing`
`00:39.15`	`M0rg0th`	`elastix doesn't load the module, maybe it's not compiled?`
`00:40.59`	`*** join/#asterisk florz (nobody@2001:1a50:503c::1)`
`00:43.24`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`M0rg0th: Can't say. None of those distros are supported here`
`00:43.52`	`M0rg0th`	`ok, I have a small advance`
`00:44.38`	`M0rg0th`	`it shows /sbin/modprobe mISDN_dsp debug=0x0 options=0 poll=128 dtmfthreshold=100`
`00:45.13`	`M0rg0th`	`how can I tell in asterisk if the card is being recognized?`
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`00:50.50`	`M0rg0th`	`misdn-init scan keeps coming back empty...`
`00:59.11`	`*** join/#asterisk coppice (~chatzilla@m121-202-1-6.smartone-vodafone.com)`
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`01:42.58`	`darkdrgn2k`	`hi all, is there a free software to measure jitter/latency of an asterisk server`
`01:48.56`	`*** join/#asterisk mode14 (~mode14@209.189.234.189)`
`01:49.23`	`mode14`	`anyone here know of anyone doing phone based ads... to monitize a phone application ?`
`01:50.34`	`hmmhesays`	`that would be cool`
`01:50.38`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`mode14: "phone based ads" as in?`
`01:51.41`	`mode14`	`as in, i have an app, calcaller.com ... i'd like to offer it free and play an ad at the beginning of the call`
`01:52.49`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`mode14: What "call"?`
`01:53.12`	`mode14`	`my app calls people before their outlook/google calendar appointments`
`01:53.15`	`mode14`	`to remind them ...`
`01:53.24`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`mode14: ok, starting to make more sense`
`01:53.45`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`mode14: So YOU have an app.. how does it place the actual call?`
`01:54.24`	`mode14`	`i'm using tropo.com actually`
`01:54.51`	`darkdrgn2k`	`soo any one.. jitter monitoring on asterisk?`
`01:56.28`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`mode14: Ok, We're losing coherence again. you aren't painting a COMPLETE picture.`
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`01:56.58`	`*** part/#asterisk passthru (~ramon@201009212146.user.veloxzone.com.br)`
`01:57.23`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`He did indeed ... passthru`
`01:57.44`	`mode14`	`TK .. let me explain`
`01:58.07`	`mode14`	`my app calls your phone to remind you of google/outlook calendar appointments`
`01:58.12`	`mode14`	`so you don't forget them ...`
`01:58.23`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:58.40`	`mode14`	`instead of charging people for the service, i was wondering if there is a solution out there to place an ad at the beginning of the call ...`
`01:58.51`	`mode14`	`i place the call using tropo.com's outbound call api`
`01:59.11`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`mode14: Ok, this sounds it has nothing to do with ASTERISK so far`
`01:59.30`	`mode14`	`ok u got me. i just thought the asterisk channel may know of such a thing ...`
`01:59.43`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`mode14: You aren't clearn about what you are ASKING FOR`
`02:00.01`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`mode14: Are you asking if someone made a CALLOUT REMINDER SYSTEM, then yes, tons of people have.`
`02:00.08`	`mode14`	`no`
`02:00.18`	`mode14`	`asking about call based ad providers ...`
`02:00.26`	`mode14`	`like google ad sense for voice phone calls`
`02:01.07`	`bougyman`	`hate the idea`
`02:01.25`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`mode14: these could only be "recordings". Also there is no way to track WHICH service caused the referral. Sounds like a broken idea so far..`
`02:02.32`	`bougyman`	`there are a ton of ways to do it, i just don't want to see it done.`
`02:02.33`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`mode14: Lets say you have 20 people doing reminder services and each share the same series of ads. How do you pay them since you can't tell which one got the person to call? With web links you get the REFERRAL. Not over the phone you don't however. there is no proof of anything`
`02:03.09`	`bougyman`	`you could with zrtp`
`02:03.20`	`mode14`	`my app accesses the ad via a url`
`02:03.47`	`mode14`	`play(http://adservice.com/MY_TOKEN_ID_1234324ABC/?outboundnumber=2135551234`
`02:03.55`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`mode14: GETTING the ad is easy. knowing who to pay off is another.`
`02:03.57`	`mode14`	`returns a wav or mp3`
`02:04.12`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Normally you get paid for CLICK-throughs`
`02:04.14`	`mode14`	`via the get request my token id = my account ...`
`02:04.18`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`(on web ads).`
`02:04.23`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Not just for displaying them`
`02:04.38`	`mode14`	`yes`
`02:04.39`	`mode14`	`obviously`
`02:04.40`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`The point is generating traffic`
`02:04.44`	`mode14`	`no way to click on a phone ad ...`
`02:04.48`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`mode14: and THAT is what you can't track`
`02:04.50`	`mode14`	`for instance, moviefone has ads ..`
`02:05.06`	`mode14`	`no way to know if i goto the movie`
`02:05.11`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`there is no 'referral" when you PHONE someone because of an audio ad on a call you received`
`02:05.17`	`mode14`	`but they know it was played ..`
`02:05.27`	`mode14`	`yes`
`02:05.29`	`mode14`	`i hear u`
`02:05.31`	`bougyman`	`being listened to becomes the metric there.`
`02:05.36`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`mode14: And even if I DO go to the movie... how do they know is was because YOU played the ad?`
`02:05.48`	`mode14`	`because`
`02:05.51`	`mode14`	`they read my brain`
`02:05.52`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`mode14: maybe it was somebody ELSE's service that played it to me.`
`02:05.55`	`mode14`	`at the ticket booth`
`02:06.02`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`mode14: All they would get is STATIC :p`
`02:06.03`	`mode14`	`analyze my thoughts`
`02:06.05`	`mode14`	`etc`
`02:06.27`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`mode14: Your business model is regrattably broken.`
`02:06.46`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`mode14: A new and nifty way to annoy people that isn't truly supportable`
`02:07.10`	`mode14`	`hrmm`
`02:07.18`	`mode14`	`ok ic`
`02:07.57`	`mode14`	`http://apptera.com/`
`02:09.52`	`*** join/#asterisk M0rg0th (~myself@bl8-36-29.dsl.telepac.pt)`
`02:10.36`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`mode14: regardless of how you want to control the business flow to cause a payout, this isn't anything just about anyone else would want to do. Its an all new way to annoy people. Couldn't you just start a telemarketing business like everyone else?`
`02:11.21`	`mode14`	`wow`
`02:11.25`	`mode14`	`man u are bitter`
`02:11.36`	`mode14`	`obviously u completely miss the concept`
`02:11.38`	`mode14`	`laterz`
`02:11.41`	`*** part/#asterisk mode14 (~mode14@209.189.234.189)`
`02:11.43`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`mode14: Who wants to be bombarded with ads?`
`02:12.05`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`modeWhy do you think we have pop-up blockers? And about telemarketers, why do you have "do not call" lists?`
`02:12.32`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Miss the concept? No, I GET it. The world hates being annoyed by advertising.`
`02:13.02`	`darkdrgn2k`	`[TK]D-Fender: and yeh googles model rakes in billions.... go figure`
`02:13.28`	`darkdrgn2k`	`[TK]D-Fender: but they know how to slip it in when your not looking :-P`
`02:14.02`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`darkIndeed... and sitting back for 30 ACTIVE seconds of my life (maybe MORE... think of the fuckers who'll do this)?`
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`02:14.25`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`darkdrgn2k: you can spell that out as a capital "FUCK OFF"`
`02:15.00`	`darkdrgn2k`	`[TK]D-Fender: LOL yeh well to be fair i loved teh beer line they had a few years ago where the guy talked for like 15 seconds then you can make a long distance call... that was kinda cool`
`02:15.49`	`darkdrgn2k`	`[TK]D-Fender: but that was years ago... now i think your right.. id be p-oed`
`02:16.00`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`darkYeah, well when I get <.01$ / min calls anyway.... I seriously don't give a shit :)`
`02:16.17`	`darkdrgn2k`	`[TK]D-Fender: i agrea:)`
`02:16.21`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`That is... if it actually cost me ANYTHING.`
`02:16.34`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Which for the past 5 years it hasn't`
`02:17.01`	`darkdrgn2k`	`[TK]D-Fender: LOL mind i ask how you get it free :-P`
`02:17.08`	`*** join/#asterisk riddlebox (~james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com)`
`02:17.59`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`darkdrgn2k: No.`
`02:18.13`	`darkdrgn2k`	`[TK]D-Fender: ok then... how do you get free calls :-P`
`02:18.47`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`darkdrgn2k: I never said anything about telling you :p`
`02:18.59`	`darkdrgn2k`	`[TK]D-Fender: i know.. but you never said you wouldnt either...`
`02:19.19`	`darkdrgn2k`	`[TK]D-Fender: only way to find out is to ask :-P`
`02:19.29`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`darkdrgn2k: And that hope is one more thing I get to take away from you ;)`
`02:19.43`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`goes to steal some more candy from babies`
`02:19.46`	`darkdrgn2k`	`[TK]D-Fender: LMAO yeh i can be annoying a...`
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`02:41.29`	`*** join/#asterisk [gnubie] (~gnubie]@203.126.172.94)`
`02:41.35`	`[gnubie]`	`waves`
`02:42.01`	`[gnubie]`	`wonders if there's already a support on video conferencing in asterisk..`
`02:45.30`	`sawgood`	`With the sip.conf file, what are the differences between the use of registar= and/or auth=`
`02:45.59`	`sawgood`	`I see registar= is used in the [general] section and auth= has its own section called [authentication]`
`02:49.29`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`[gnubie]: Calls yes. Conferencing no.`
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`02:52.32`	`[gnubie]`	`[TK]D-Fender: thanks. just to confirm because we may need a video conferencing system here. then, polycom may be the way to go`
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`02:53.28`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`[gnubie]: Depends on your definition.`
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`02:54.26`	`[gnubie]`	`[TK]D-Fender: we just need to see each other remotely during the meetings`
`02:55.12`	`bfurst`	`Hello all, having an ongoing problem in which my asterisk box (1.6.2 from ubuntu repository) is allowing outbound calls fine but caller can not hear the recipient on inbound calls. I had this working on an older version, then when my server crashed, waited a while then installed the newest version and changed a few deprecated commands and I'm running into this problem. If I put in my incoming sip account info into x-lite it all works`
`02:55.45`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`[gnubie]: It is a question of QUANTITY`
`02:56.23`	`[gnubie]`	`[TK]D-Fender: for now, 3 different remote locations as i can think of`
`02:56.35`	`bfurst`	`Inbound is google-voice>gizmo5 account currently.`
`02:56.42`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`bfurst: usual problm is people not configuring their server properly to work from behind NAT`
`02:57.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`bfurst: Verify that you have followed the guide`
`02:57.05`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`~sipnat`
`02:57.05`	`infobot`	`sipnat is, like, Quick guide on configuring Asterisk + SIP behind NAT : http://www.aocomputing.net/?p=3 , otherwise check the WIKI at http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+SIP+NAT+solutions`
`02:57.32`	`bfurst`	`[TK]D-Fender] I've tried a few different NAT settings as I suspected that being a problem, but I'll definatey check out this guide. Thanks!`
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`03:04.21`	`bfurst`	`[[TK]D-Fender] Yeah, I've done everything in the first link and had seen the second before; I've tried using the externip=flag, currently using a stun server (stunaddr=stun01.sipphone.com:3478), and in the first link it lists that canreinvite=no which I had in my old server but seems to have been changed to directmedia=no in the new version. Also, I have global nat=yes set, nat=no set in my local device sip registration (my PAP device`
`03:05.06`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`bfurst: pastebin your sip.conf masking only passwords`
`03:05.31`	`bfurst`	`K, one moment please.`
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`03:15.53`	`bfurst`	`Sorry, using a combination of my old conf file and the ubuntu sample config and had to clear out most of the comments to make it smaller. Here goes:`
`03:15.57`	`bfurst`	`[general]`
`03:15.57`	`bfurst`	`context=default`
`03:15.57`	`bfurst`	`allowoverlap=no`
`03:15.57`	`bfurst`	`udpbindaddr=0.0.0.0`
`03:15.57`	`bfurst`	`tcpenable=no`
`03:16.02`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`PASTEBIN`
`03:16.06`	`bfurst`	`Well, that didn't work.`
`03:16.12`	`bfurst`	`Hold on, new to this irssi.`
`03:16.39`	`bfurst`	`Ok, gotchya.`
`03:17.47`	`bfurst`	`Neat, I've never seen that site before. Here's the link:`
`03:17.49`	`bfurst`	`http://pastebin.com/JmzCXfZB`
`03:19.20`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`bfurst: Ok, your problem is that everything AFTER you Register line gets IGNORED`
`03:19.23`	`bfurst`	`I've gone through several different variations on that config, previously I'd been trying to get it sorted working with some people on a different forum. I've tried a variety of different things, most I can't think of at the moment.`
`03:19.28`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`bfurst: Move those other lines above it`
`03:19.45`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`bfurst: REGISTER "ends" [general]`
`03:20.02`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`bfurst: Move that one line, and it will probably work`
`03:22.46`	`bfurst`	`[TK]D-Fender I moved the register => line to just above 45 so it's now the last thing in general. Did asterisk -r and then reload but still have the same issue. Did I miss a step?`
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`03:23.42`	`boodu`	`hello`
`03:23.55`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`bfurst: Also forget stun and put a real IP/hos (externhost). next what have you forwarded to your server precisely?`
`03:24.15`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`bfurst: And verify that the internal IP it refers to is still accurate`
`03:24.21`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`bfurst: and check your local firewall`
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`03:28.45`	`bfurst`	`[TK]D-Fender: Commented out the stun server setting and externrefresh, currently have a DMZ set to point to my asterisk server. I have a linksys 2 line PAP device connected on the network and no firewall running on my server.`
`03:29.17`	`bfurst`	`Still is doing the same thing.`
`03:30.12`	`bfurst`	`If it helps at all, here's my current incoming call layout: Google Voice->Gizmo 5->~My DD-WRT router~->asterisk server->PAP->standard analog phone.`
`03:31.05`	`bfurst`	`Now if I have it set up like this: Google Voice-Gizmo 5->~My DD-WRT router~->X-Lite softphone for Windows, incoming call works just fine, both parties can hear each other fine.`
`03:31.47`	`bfurst`	`And If I do Google Voice->Gizmo 5->~My DD-WRT router~->asterisk server->X-Lite softphone for Windows, it breaks again. Can hear caller's voice but caller can't hear mine.`
`03:32.13`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`bfurst: make sure your provider entire;s are nat=no <-`
`03:32.18`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`entries`
`03:33.47`	`bfurst`	`[TK]D-Fender: Sorry, do you mean the Gizmo 5 account and rapidvox contexts should be nat=no, or just the 45 and 46 (PAP device and X-lite respectively)?`
`03:35.38`	`darkdrgn2k`	`hey any one know of a us proxy i could use :-P`
`03:38.18`	`boodu`	`I use asterisk 1.6.2.10, do you know if there are NVfax files for this version ? If no, can i use instead for fax detection ?`
`03:38.39`	`boodu`	`what can i use ...`
`03:39.36`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`bfurst: gizmo, etc`
`03:40.42`	`bfurst`	`[TK]D-Fender I went ahead and changed all contexts to use nat=no and that didn't fix it. Switched nat= flags back to the way they were and updated the pastebin entry so you can see what everything is curently set at.`
`03:40.57`	`bfurst`	`http://pastebin.com/JmzCXfZB`
`03:44.01`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`[proxy01.sipphone.com] <- should be NAT=NO`
`03:44.09`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`[rapidvox] <- ditto`
`03:44.56`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`bfurst: Also I'm not sure on the newer parm (directmedia). I've heard mention, but perhaps you could use try addinging the canreinvite=no under [general] at least.`
`03:45.24`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`bfurst: Then upon failure, enable SIP DEBUG and pastbin a failed call`
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`03:55.50`	`BeeBuu`	`hi,all`
`03:56.39`	`TUplink`	`i recently setup a trixbox ... i have got SIP working for peers but i cant get one IAX client to connect or put anything in the asterisk CLI at that any ideas?`
`03:56.57`	`BeeBuu`	`is there a way make asterisk say the agent's number before he/she answer a call of the queue?`
`03:57.29`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`TUplink: Last half of that made no sense`
`03:57.52`	`TUplink`	`lol`
`03:58.13`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`BeeBuu: there is AgentMacro in queues.conf, or vai whatever you use to dial them`
`03:58.16`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`via*`
`03:58.28`	`bfurst`	`[TK]D-Fender: Added canreinvite=no directly under directmedia=no, pasted SIP log of failed call to http://pastebin.com/JDB2BqCf using sip.conf at http://pastebin.com/V7GMhNLL`
`03:58.32`	`TUplink`	`Zoiper and otherclients wont connect IAX2... wont even put anything in asterisk -vvvgrc`
`03:59.06`	`BeeBuu`	`[TK]D-Fender: AgentMacro?`
`03:59.59`	`TUplink`	`almost like the port isnt there for the client to connect to... but how can i test is a UDP port is open?`
`04:01.14`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`TUplink: Send a packet to it. check your firewalls. check is chan_iax2.so is even loaded.`
`04:01.21`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`beego read the sample configs`
`04:01.27`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`BeeBuu: go read the sample configs`
`04:01.34`	`bfurst`	`TUPlink - Stupid question, but for your IAX clients, did you make sure to put them into IAX.conf instead of SIP.conf? Use netstat -an to check if ports are open.`
`04:01.45`	`BeeBuu`	`[TK]D-Fender: this? http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+config+queues.conf`
`04:01.49`	`TUplink`	`lol using freepbx`
`04:01.58`	`TUplink`	`IAX2 extension`
`04:02.03`	`bfurst`	`Ah, ok, sorry. Missed that part.`
`04:02.45`	`TUplink`	`netstat -an \| grep 4569`
`04:02.45`	`TUplink`	`udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:4569 0.0.0.0:*`
`04:02.57`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`TUplink: and you should have IAX2 debug enabled`
`04:03.17`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`TUplink: And run TCPDUMP as well to verify that the packets are reaching you`
`04:03.32`	`TUplink`	`hum......`
`04:03.40`	`TUplink`	`how do i enable debug?`
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`04:03.55`	`TUplink`	`i got it`
`04:04.03`	`TUplink`	`IAX2 set debug on`
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`04:04.36`	`grendal_prime`	`sooooo im looking at several diff sip servers...i have had no luck with yate, or freeswitch just cant seem to get them working. Is this any easyer?`
`04:04.55`	`TUplink`	`lol i have no idea what this means.....`
`04:05.06`	`TUplink`	`got some stuff with debug`
`04:05.13`	`TUplink`	`the client is hitting the server`
`04:05.48`	`bfurst`	`Paste the output of the debug to pastebin.com and drop link back here.`
`04:06.01`	`TUplink`	`http://pastebin.com/AU0WPsVj`
`04:06.07`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`grendal_prime: Probably. But it depends what you mean by "sip server"`
`04:06.16`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`grendal_prime: that is a dangerously vagure term`
`04:06.22`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`vague*`
`04:06.45`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`TUplink: Ok, that is a registration... not a call`
`04:07.01`	`grendal_prime`	`ok how about if i explain what i need to do...and you tell me if its complicated with asterisk?`
`04:07.16`	`TUplink`	`lol....`
`04:07.21`	`TUplink`	`go figure....`
`04:07.26`	`TUplink`	`cant register`
`04:07.51`	`TUplink`	`iax2 show peers shows 2101 (Unspecified) (D) 255.255.255.255 0 UNKNOWN`
`04:08.46`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`I'm not seeing any TX`
`04:08.56`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`you'd better not be isolating by IP`
`04:09.10`	`grendal_prime`	`i have a cell phone that gets great 3g service. everywhere but at my house. I do however have comcast cable ....at my house. I also have several (3 or so) cell phones that have wireless capability that my company emps use to im each other..and i started thinking...hey...why dont i set up a sip server gateway so they can all call each other and also make oubbound calls through my home server?`
`04:10.19`	`TUplink`	`all of the extension configs are default`
`04:10.25`	`TUplink`	`allow/deny are 0.0.0.0/0.0.0.0`
`04:10.53`	`grendal_prime`	`basically these people are in wifi range all the time.. so it seems silly to have cell phone service for each of them when ...well my cable connection is 3 megs up and 12 down.`
`04:11.40`	`bfurst`	`[TK]D-Fender Sorry, I know you're really busy-did you get a chance to look at my sip debug log?`
`04:12.39`	`grendal_prime`	`i have a virtual enviroment o build these in. should i just build an ubuntu box and install asterisk from the repos? or should i use the asterisk now iso?`
`04:15.19`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`bfurst: http://pastebin.com/V7GMhNLL <-- this is current?`
`04:15.42`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`[23:58]<bfurst>[TK]D-Fender: Added canreinvite=no directly under directmedia=no, pasted SIP log of failed call to http://pastebin.com/JDB2BqCf using sip.conf at http://pastebin.com/V7GMhNLL`
`04:16.13`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`bfurst: If so then WTF is that REGISTER doing breaking up [general] like I told you to change from the very start?`
`04:20.18`	`bfurst`	`Woops, sorry, that was not the most recent one. I had all my pastebin windows up, then went to update one so the authusername and username under the gizmo 5 context matched the SIP long. This is the most current: http://pastebin.com/Ys6Xcmci`
`04:21.54`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`bfurst: [proxy01.sipphone.com] <- still says NAT=YES.`
`04:21.55`	`bfurst`	`Actually, that last one should also have canreinvite=no under directmedia=no. I've been just chaning the pastebin instead of repasting the sip.conf and modifying the personal info out.`
`04:22.09`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`bfurst: Go fix this all up`
`04:22.20`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`bfurst: you are running this in circles`
`04:22.25`	`bfurst`	`Right, I changed it to nat=no for both proxy01.sipphone.com and the rapidvox but it still didn't work, so I changed it back.`
`04:24.02`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`bfurst: I'm failing to see consistency and am having trouble trusting what you're showing me. I have to second-guess everything now.`
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`04:27.37`	`TUplink`	`[TK]D-Fender: you have anymore ideas for me? its not the client i have tryed 3 difrent ones from 2 difrent boxes`
`04:28.00`	`TUplink`	`placing IAX2 calls works like over enum`
`04:28.48`	`TUplink`	`should i see a failed login attempt on the CLI if the secret is wrong?`
`04:28.55`	`bfurst`	`K, I'm posting my sip.conf as is, right now: http://pastebin.com/7s8tjH9m`
`04:29.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`TUplink: You haven't shown anything useful`
`04:29.34`	`TUplink`	`i dont know what i need to show??`
`04:29.38`	`TUplink`	`im lost`
`04:30.02`	`TUplink`	`the last time i setup an asterisk box i HACKED it all up and didnt use freepbx like 4 years ago`
`04:30.04`	`TUplink`	`lol`
`04:30.13`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`bfurst: http://pastebin.com/7s8tjH9m <--- &^@$. [proxy01.sipphone.com] is NAT=YES again`
`04:30.29`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`[rapidvox] AS WELL!`
`04:30.34`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`************************NO********************`
`04:31.18`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`reaches for his recently rusty-nail upgraded ClueBat (tm)`
`04:32.09`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`bfurst: context=default <-- next you should never EVER have a context named [default]. This is a security risk in and of itself`
`04:32.28`	`TUplink`	`do i have to setup a TRUNK maybe for the IAX clients?`
`04:32.34`	`TUplink`	`or just the EXTENSION`
`04:32.41`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`bfurst: Your [general] points there as well.. Un-authed calls will have access to it. HORIBLE`
`04:33.04`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`TUplink: just Extension`
`04:33.32`	`TUplink`	`see why dosnt it JUST work lol`
`04:33.51`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`bfurst: [general] should point to a dead-end... or a context with only the most minimal of things you'd want any randome hacker to potentially dial`
`04:34.08`	`TUplink`	`im about to pull my hair out`
`04:34.29`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`TUplink: I do not see your firewall dumps. Or your enabling IAX2 DEBUG. Or the complete call attempt. Or TCPdump running in parallel.`
`04:34.40`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`TUplink: Or ... ANYTHING for that matter.`
`04:34.51`	`TUplink`	`LOL`
`04:34.56`	`bfurst`	`Yes, I'm just telling you how it is right now, this very second. When you told me to set it to no, I changed it to no. Then I said that didn't fix it so I was chaning it back to yes. You never said anything after that until I was explaining my configs much later, so I left it as yes. As is my understanding, since my server is being NATed it should be yes. I thought we were changing it to no just to see if it works. If it definately sh`
`04:35.17`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`bfurst: I said put it as no, and you keep changing it back...`
`04:35.28`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`they should ALWAYS be no. The guide told you as much.`
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`04:35.45`	`TUplink`	`1st firewall dumps isnt the pastbin enough to show that the port is passing to asterisk cant compleat a call because it dosnt register and and the IAXdebug was what i put on pastebin`
`04:36.02`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`TUplink: I never see RESPONSES in there`
`04:36.20`	`TUplink`	`like server to client?`
`04:36.56`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`TUplink: http://pastebin.com/AU0WPsVj <-- these are ONLY RX's. NO TX's we don't see what is SENT`
`04:37.45`	`TUplink`	`so how do i get what is sent?`
`04:38.02`	`TUplink`	`or is asterisk just not sending it`
`04:38.09`	`TUplink`	`bump it... i give up`
`04:38.38`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`TUplink: You don't seem to be getting the idea...`
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`04:40.23`	`bfurst`	`[TK]D-Fender: You told me to change it to nat=no, I did, told you it didn't work and immediately changed it back to nat=yes. Every one of my configs after that reflected this change. You only told me once after that to change it back to nat=no and then said I needed to repaste my configs, so before changing anything I just repasted my config. And per that guide, unless I'm completely misreading it-it says it should be nat=yes since I'`
`04:42.24`	`TUplink`	`no i dont`
`04:42.41`	`TUplink`	`i dont understand UDP..... i dont know how to sets somthing you cant see`
`04:43.07`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`While it is behind NAT, this other server will âtake care of its own businessâ as far as dealing with NAT is concerned so to us it might just as well be public. <-`
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`04:43.23`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`bfurst: Providers do their own shit right. You HAVE to trust the IP's THEY give you`
`04:43.56`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`bfurst: So the answer is NO. Unequivocallly NO.`
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`04:49.29`	`bfurst`	`K, now I understand. Under the general context, should nat=yes then since according to that guide it says to put it there if I'm behind a nat? My current config said no.`
`04:50.55`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`bfurst: [general] = yes, [providers] = NO, [aphonethatisremoteandbehindnat] =YES, [aphoneonthesamelan] = NO`
`04:51.25`	`boodu`	`ciao`
`04:52.57`	`bfurst`	`Makes sense. I made those changes-http://pastebin.com/mkkXH0VE Still running into same problem-getting audio from caller, but caller can't hear me. What would you recommend I check next?`
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`04:56.45`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`bfurst: pastebin a failed call with SIP debug enabled. the entire call.`
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`05:00.39`	`bfurst`	`Here's the one I had done earlier: http://pastebin.com/JDB2BqCf I did sip set debug on, made the call, said a few things into cell phone, spoke into the landline, verified I couldn't hear audio on the cell phone, hung up, then did sip set debug off. Do I need to let debug sit a while longer after I hang up?`
`05:02.19`	`bfurst`	`Of course, that was with nat=yes. I'll do another one.`
`05:02.27`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`bfurst: I do not want na earlier one.`
`05:02.34`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`bfurst: this is with bad configs.`
`05:02.44`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`bfurst: I am not in the business of time travel...`
`05:03.39`	`bfurst`	`Yeah, I already said I'd do another one??`
`05:04.41`	`bfurst`	`I just wanted to make sure it wasn't a problem with my capture method so I didn't make the same mistake again...`
`05:04.41`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`bfurst: Do another. Also what is your local phone on the OTHER side of this call?`
`05:04.55`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`[45] <------`
`05:08.20`	`bfurst`	`45 is a Linksys PAP2T. Connected to it is an analog telephone. Here's the sip debug log: http://pastebin.com/73jzkKss`
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`05:09.56`	`TedNJ40`	`Guys: I have a big problem. My Trixbox box is not responding correctly when I ping it by its name. If I ping it from any windows machine it resolves its name to (hostname.domain) and replies with my ISP IP Address instead of my Box's IP Address. If I ping it by its IP Address then it replies normally from that IP Address. Does anyone have an idea as of where I screwed up?`
`05:10.57`	`carrar`	`DNS`
`05:12.29`	`TedNJ40`	`I have installed DNS (Bind8) in my Fedora Box and I am using it for internal resolution only.`
`05:12.53`	`carrar`	`Then make sure to use that IP of your DNS server as the nameserver for all your machines on your LAN`
`05:13.20`	`carrar`	`and make sure you've added it correctly to the forward zone file`
`05:13.48`	`TedNJ40`	`From my Windows machine, it resolves the hostname of the fedora box correctly but it resolves the trixbox box with the ip that my ISP assigns me.`
`05:13.53`	`TedNJ40`	`Thanks, checking now.`
`05:13.58`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`bfurst: Ok, this is looking normal. Go make an exten to Answer, Record() a file, and then Playback() that file. Test this from your phone, then make your inbound call go there as well`
`05:14.28`	`carrar`	`Whats the FQHN for your host in question?`
`05:14.33`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`bfurst: QC both independent of each other. And be warned, DD-WRT is a known NAT offender. It may be responsivle. I hope you have another router to test with.`
`05:14.35`	`carrar`	`FQDN`
`05:15.30`	`bfurst`	`[TK]D-Fender: Unfortunately I don't. :( I'd be willing to reflash it though, do you know if tomato is any better in this regard?`
`05:16.44`	`TedNJ40`	`Carrar: I call it mutants.com`
`05:16.45`	`carrar`	`TedNJ40, you should be running 9.7.1-P2 FYI`
`05:16.48`	`TedNJ40`	`It's something I made up.`
`05:17.04`	`carrar`	`so you have a entry for your host.mutants.com in mutants.com?`
`05:17.13`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`bfurst: Unsure.`
`05:17.28`	`TedNJ40`	`No.`
`05:17.29`	`carrar`	`and does it resolve on your dns server?`
`05:17.36`	`TedNJ40`	`I don't.`
`05:17.37`	`carrar`	`well then you need to setup DNS correctly`
`05:17.52`	`TedNJ40`	`Carrar: I followed a guide to create an internal DNS only.`
`05:18.30`	`carrar`	`might join #bind`
`05:18.36`	`TedNJ40`	`All I created was an ACL, view called internal and a zone called mutants.com`
`05:18.44`	`TedNJ40`	`I thought that's all I needed.`
`05:18.46`	`TedNJ40`	`I am new at this.`
`05:18.58`	`TedNJ40`	`I am between new and borderline dummy.`
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`05:19.47`	`carrar`	`Why are you using views?`
`05:19.59`	`TedNJ40`	`That's what the instructions told me to do.`
`05:20.05`	`carrar`	`Is this a outside reachable DNS server?`
`05:20.12`	`TedNJ40`	`Wait, I have just tried to ping anyting.mutants.com and it replied with my ISP IP.`
`05:20.17`	`TedNJ40`	`Including carrar.mutants.com`
`05:20.20`	`TedNJ40`	`This is weard.`
`05:20.29`	`carrar`	`because you probably are using a wildcard in your zone file`
`05:20.29`	`TedNJ40`	`It shouldn't be an outside reachable dns server.`
`05:20.30`	`TedNJ40`	`*weird`
`05:21.28`	`carrar`	`Just put your server in your hosts file and forget DNS`
`05:21.34`	`carrar`	`unless you want to go learn DNS`
`05:21.42`	`TedNJ40`	`Ok.`
`05:22.18`	`bfurst`	`[TK]D-Fender: I'll try setting the Answer/Record() plans up but I don't know the exact syntax to use so I'll probably just head to bed to night and research/test it tomorrow. I did however do a wireshark capture and use the telephony feature to playback the audio and the streams I was getting from the server had audio both ways. That makes it look like the DD-WRT is the problem, but I wonder why everything worked on the old version of`
`05:23.06`	`bfurst`	`[TK]D-Fender: I'll also lookup tomato compatibility, that may be what I need to do. Thanks for all your help!`
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`05:26.51`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`is off`
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`07:02.21`	`Dovid`	`hi. anyone here using voip monitor ?`
`07:03.31`	`Dovid`	`(voipmonitor.org)`
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`07:10.53`	`v1s`	`I have 2 different ipkall numbers. do I need to have a different context for each one in my sip.conf or do I just need 1 and it will handle both? thanks`
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`07:19.26`	`Alton35`	`vls: One context will handle both.`
`07:19.32`	`Alton35`	`v1s`
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`07:20.28`	`v1s`	`the context is for incoming calls? and the register statement is for outgoing calls? is that correct?`
`07:21.01`	`v1s`	`or does the conext serv for both incoming and outgoing`
`07:21.18`	`Alton35`	`contexts are for incoming really,`
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`07:21.46`	`Alton35`	`registering works in both directions if I'm not mistaken,`
`07:22.13`	`Alton35`	`the problem is that the other end my work differently, if you register then that may authenticate you for both directions on their end, never mind what happens on your end.`
`07:22.37`	`Alton35`	`I have seen a lot of goofy behaviour, sometimes type=peer works, sometimes type=friend, sheesh`
`07:23.08`	`v1s`	`yes I notice that also ;)`
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`08:30.15`	`jojo^`	`Would it be possible for asterisk to a SIP call with "m=audio 17702 RTP/AVP 125 101. a=rtpmap:125 G.nX64/8000."`
`08:30.21`	`jojo^`	`and record the audio+video?`
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`08:51.53`	`ectospasm`	`jojo^: I had a customer ask the same question... I don't think there's a way to record video with Asterisk, but I may be wrong. I'm trying to get an answer by tommorrow, otherwise it will be next week before I have one.`
`08:58.47`	`dandre`	`hello,`
`08:59.08`	`dandre`	`I have in my modules.conf autoload set to yes`
`08:59.28`	`dandre`	`I also have noload => somemodule.so`
`09:00.16`	`dandre`	`when I do in CLI interface module show, after a restart, somemodule is still there.`
`09:00.25`	`dandre`	`Where is my mistake?`
`09:02.01`	`ectospasm`	`dandre: does another, automatically loaded module depend on somemodule.so? What is the actual module you're trying not to load?`
`09:03.51`	`dandre`	`I don't see anything inthe log showing that there is some dependency error.`
`09:03.52`	`dandre`	`for example the modules: app_alarmreceiver.so, app_directory.so, app_festival.so, ...`
`09:04.47`	`kaldemar`	`dandre: based on two lines in your modules.conf, no one can tell you what the mistake is.`
`09:05.11`	`dandre`	`ok I'll pastebin`
`09:06.44`	`dandre`	`here is my modules.conf: http://pastebin.fr/8994`
`09:08.44`	`kaldemar`	`you have a strange [global] in the file.`
`09:10.55`	`kaldemar`	`are all noloads not working or just some?`
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`09:14.45`	`TobSnyder`	`test`
`09:16.03`	`dandre`	`oups ! shame on me , I have just relized that the file I was working on wasn't the file used by asterisk. Sorry for ythe inconvenience`
`09:17.56`	`ectospasm`	`dandre: hey, it happens!`
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`10:09.47`	`[Jasper]`	`hej guys`
`10:10.00`	`[Jasper]`	`I'm trying to get voicemail up and running...the boxes work`
`10:10.04`	`[Jasper]`	`but when i redirect a sip call`
`10:10.06`	`[Jasper]`	`I get the following:`
`10:10.18`	`[Jasper]`	`Failed to write frame == MixMonitor close filestream`
`10:10.24`	`[Jasper]`	`and no actual voicemail is recorded`
`10:11.08`	`Tim_Toady`	`check paths and permissions`
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`10:14.38`	`[Jasper]`	`Tim_Toady hmm`
`10:14.43`	`[Jasper]`	`could this be a permission problem?`
`10:14.46`	`[Jasper]`	`to where it writes too?`
`10:15.01`	`Tim_Toady`	`yes`
`10:15.11`	`[Jasper]`	`hmm`
`10:15.15`	`[Jasper]`	`under what user does asterisk run?`
`10:15.20`	`[Jasper]`	`it's own?`
`10:15.21`	`[Jasper]`	`or?`
`10:15.36`	`[Jasper]`	`../var/spool/asterisk is root owned`
`10:15.46`	`[Jasper]`	`with drwxr-xr-x 9 root root 4096 2009-02-11 15:15 asterisk`
`10:16.16`	`Tim_Toady`	`and asterisk is ran by user root or asterisk?`
`10:16.28`	`Tim_Toady`	`check it with ps`
`10:16.32`	`[Jasper]`	`when I run ps aux \| grep asterisk it reports /usr/sbin running as root`
`10:16.39`	`[Jasper]`	`./usr/sbin/asterisk I mean`
`10:16.58`	`[Jasper]`	`could it be that I redirect wrongly to the mailbox?`
`10:17.38`	`[Jasper]`	`exten => s,6,Voicemail( jasper ,s)`
`10:17.40`	`[Jasper]`	`is that correct?`
`10:24.26`	`[Jasper]`	`Tim_Toady ?`
`10:25.36`	`Tim_Toady`	`hard to tell without knowing ur configuartion, pastebin ur voicemail.conf`
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`10:37.15`	`[Jasper]`	`ok Tim_Toady`
`10:38.18`	`[Jasper]`	`Tim_Toady : http://pastebin.com/imXrELi7`
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`11:01.46`	`[Jasper]`	`Tim_Toady ?`
`11:01.48`	`[Jasper]`	`are you still tehre?`
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`11:54.16`	`hyriand`	`Hi! I'm looking for some assistance on how to debug a problem we've been having with asterisk. We're using a Dell 2900 server with a sangoma a104 card and a digium tc400b transcoder card (quite possibly unrelated to the problem) with asterisk 1.4.24 and the problem we're experiencing is that the AMI sometimes stops sending out events. It does seem to process commands though. When I re-connect using asterisk -r, it may or may not work..`
`11:54.48`	`russellb`	`you should try upgrading to the latest version of Asterisk. 1.4.24 is quite old.`
`11:55.41`	`russellb`	`Speicifically, there have been 847 fixes in Asterisk 1.4 since that version.`
`11:57.16`	`hyriand`	`haha, yeah.. I know.. problem is that we've been having different problems with newer versions so we used a version that works reasonably okay with the gear we supplied to our other customers`
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`11:58.09`	`russellb`	`as you wish. I can only help if you're up to date. good luck.`
`11:59.12`	`drmessano`	`hyriand: and here you are having a problem with 1.4.24.. how is that one better?`
`12:00.07`	`drmessano`	`hyriand: What if the specific issue you are having is resolved in a newer release?`
`12:00.07`	`hyriand`	`drmessano: 1.4.24 works fine most of the time, the latest version at the time we installed it didn't`
`12:01.23`	`drmessano`	`hyriand: Ok, but you're now asking us to troubleshoot an old release, where your problem very well could be a bug that's been resolved. So how do you expect to resolve it in that case?`
`12:01.34`	`hyriand`	`I'm not asking you to troubleshoot anything`
`12:01.53`	`drmessano`	`[07:54] <hyriand> Hi! I'm looking for some assistance on how to debug a problem we've been having with asterisk. <--- ?????`
`12:02.28`	`hyriand`	`just looking for some pointers on where to start debugging this problem`
`12:02.32`	`hyriand`	`debug it myself`
`12:02.40`	`russellb`	`drmessano: too much coffee?`
`12:02.44`	`drmessano`	`Start off by upgrading to lastest release`
`12:02.54`	`drmessano`	`latest`
`12:02.55`	`hyriand`	`I'll try to convince my boss`
`12:03.06`	`hyriand`	`(I hate bosses)`
`12:03.23`	`hyriand`	`thanks for your time anyway!`
`12:03.50`	`drmessano`	`russellb: Nah, just stressing the importance of not asking for help troubleshooting an issue on a release where the issue may indeed be a bug that was resolved over a year ago`
`12:05.22`	`hyriand`	`that was going to be my next question actually, what would be a good way to search the bug database in this case.. but no worries, I'll try to convince my boss`
`12:05.51`	`russellb`	`using google foo with "site:issues.asterisk.org"`
`12:06.08`	`russellb`	`however, your bug sounds like a deadlock`
`12:06.28`	`russellb`	`and the symptoms of a deadlock can be very odd - just because you notice it because of manager events doesn't mean it's a bug in the manager code`
`12:06.31`	`russellb`	`it could be anywhere, really`
`12:06.52`	`hyriand`	`yeah, I figured as much`
`12:07.05`	`russellb`	`if you're a C programmer, it may be possible to debug and fix using the tools we have buillt in to debug such things`
`12:07.12`	`russellb`	`otherwise you're better off with the upgrade path`
`12:07.25`	`hyriand`	`yeah, I'm pretty familliar with C`
`12:07.26`	`russellb`	`if you have trouble with the latest, come back (or come to #asterisk-bugs)`
`12:08.00`	`russellb`	`hyriand: ok, well for deadlocks we build with the DEBUG_THREADS option on. "core show locks" will give you a list of threads and which locks they hold (or are blocking waiting to acquire)`
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`12:10.47`	`drmessano`	`http://downloads.asterisk.org/pub/telephony/asterisk/old-releases/asterisk-1.4.25-summary.html <-- I like to start with the release summary for the next release, especially when we are talking about something really ugly... Usually there is that "Ah HA" moment`
`12:11.05`	`hyriand`	`russellb: ok, I'll start by rebuilding this version using DEBUG_THREADS while I convince someone to let me upgrade.`
`12:11.12`	`russellb`	`alrighty.`
`12:11.36`	`oryxtec`	`guy if we are behind firewall then we must enable these ports for asterisk .. UDP 5060 and RTP 10,000 to 20,000`
`12:11.39`	`drmessano`	`#14705: [patch] Deadlock when manipulating module_list over AMI and CLI <-- that's one of the fixes in 1.4.25.. not sure if it relates completely.`
`12:11.39`	`oryxtec`	`is that correct`
`12:11.40`	`oryxtec`	`?`
`12:11.40`	`hyriand`	`drmessano: yeah, I've done that all the way up to the current version (even later major versions)`
`12:11.43`	`oryxtec`	`?`
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`12:12.34`	`hyriand`	`drmessano: from what I remember, it wasn't related, but I'll have a look at that issue again. thanks!`
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`12:15.27`	`telnettech`	`russellb: what is the lastest "stable" version of asterisk. I know I dont want the 1.8 yet.....i am looking to upgrade to 1.6 though`
`12:15.46`	`drmessano`	`--> /topic`
`12:15.50`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`<PROTECTED>`
`12:16.06`	`russellb`	`latest 1.4.X or 1.6.2.X are what is currently supported`
`12:16.09`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`high-5's drmessano`
`12:16.14`	`drmessano`	`lol`
`12:16.31`	`drmessano`	`1.6.2.x is a pretty solid branch`
`12:17.00`	`drmessano`	`If I didn't want to play with 1.8 here soon, I could stick with 1.6.2.x with no complaints`
`12:17.23`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`'s recently rusty-nail upgraded ClueBat was made from a 1.6.2 branch...`
`12:17.53`	`telnettech`	`ok thanks....will download and start the testing process.......`
`12:18.13`	`drmessano`	`1.4 always felt like there was a lot of duct tape involved`
`12:18.28`	`russellb`	`harsh`
`12:18.38`	`hyriand`	`what's wrong with that? duct tape holds the entire universe together, doesn't it? ;)`
`12:18.39`	`russellb`	`but honesty is appreciated`
`12:18.44`	`drmessano`	`No, didn't mean it like that`
`12:20.33`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`russellb: 1.8 becomes LTS, no? At what point should he be able to forget 1.4?`
`12:20.45`	`russellb`	`[TK]D-Fender: yes, 1.8 will be LTS (similar to 1.4)`
`12:20.56`	`russellb`	`the current published date for 1.4 security only mode is January 2011.`
`12:21.04`	`russellb`	`However, I think we'll probably push that out a few more months.`
`12:21.16`	`drmessano`	`I just know 1.4 got off on a bad foot and took quite some time to stabilize... 1.6.0.x was stable out the door, with the exception of the newly added SIP TCP stuff, which was worked out eventually`
`12:21.35`	`russellb`	`we're trying to make 1.8.0 solid ...`
`12:21.47`	`russellb`	`lots of testing, including new automated test infrastructure`
`12:21.52`	`drmessano`	`I've never felt uneasy about any of the 1.6.x branches.. and I expect the same from 1.8`
`12:22.14`	`russellb`	`hope so :-)`
`12:22.30`	`russellb`	`or it's my ass, heh`
`12:22.48`	`drmessano`	`lol`
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`12:27.47`	`Dovid`	`hi. i am trying to do system("/etc/script.php ${CHANNEL}") I get back Unable to execute /etc/script.php. the file is currently set to 777 so anyone should be able to run it. what else would make issues and let me run a script ?`
`12:28.00`	`drmessano`	`Asterisk has become pretty damn stable over time and as long as issues with new features are triaged and resolved quickly, that perception won't change. You really don't see a lot of "OMG, the core is horribly broken" sort of regression anymore`
`12:29.13`	`Dovid`	`figured it out. I had extra quotes`
`12:29.58`	`drmessano`	`Unlike some of those dicey 1.4 "teen" releases...`
`12:30.32`	`kaldemar`	`russellb: btw, what kind of testing do you automate, if i may ask?`
`12:30.33`	`drmessano`	`I could probably get one of my cats to bury those in the litterbox`
`12:31.46`	`kaldemar`	`russellb: mostly unit and integration testing or do you have a system that even makes calls over channels and analyses voice throughput?`
`12:31.52`	`russellb`	`kaldemar: lots of stuff, different scenarios including parking, transfers, all of the AGI commands, SIP calls, IAX2 calls, ...`
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`12:32.11`	`russellb`	`we have 2 automated test suites: a unit test suite (built in to the code), and an external test suite that performs funcitonal tests`
`12:32.19`	`russellb`	`it makes calls and verifies that the right things happen`
`12:32.49`	`drmessano`	`Who does it call?`
`12:33.05`	`coppice`	`ghostbusters`
`12:33.09`	`russellb`	`itself usually :-)`
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`12:35.58`	`russellb`	`http://bamboo.asterisk.org/build/viewBuildResultsSuccessfulTests.action?buildNumber=190&buildKey=AST-18&pageSize=115`
`12:36.11`	`russellb`	`bamboo is pretty pissed off right now. something broke last week, heh.`
`12:36.29`	`drmessano`	`I was looking at it a few mins ago`
`12:36.31`	`kaldemar`	`russellb: right things as in opening channels and correct signaling? or does it analyse some voice samples?`
`12:36.32`	`russellb`	`we've got some cleanup to do this week (of course, that's exactly why we do this, so we find out now instead of users after release)`
`12:36.53`	`russellb`	`kaldemar: it does talk detection to make sure an audio path is setup.`
`12:37.06`	`drmessano`	`Red Bamboo = Angry Panda`
`12:37.10`	`russellb`	`kaldemar: we're also working on some automated load testing setups that do voice quality analysis and such, but not quite ready yet`
`12:37.23`	`russellb`	`drmessano: very`
`12:38.40`	`kaldemar`	`russellb: a framework with easy voice quality analysis would be awesome.`
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`12:38.54`	`russellb`	`yep, working on it :-)`
`12:38.56`	`kaldemar`	`russellb: interesting to know anyway, thanks.`
`12:39.01`	`russellb`	`sure, no problem`
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`12:39.45`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`drmessano: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ghgg_fukbvU <-- they now have advanced fighting techniques. Beware the angry panda!`
`12:41.24`	`drmessano`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aF3ICW3bhtk <-- more impressive`
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`12:43.15`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`drmessano: He held the blade! Clearly a hoax!`
`12:43.57`	`drmessano`	`Yeah. If it were IRL, he would have Obi-Wan'ed himself`
`12:45.54`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`"Strike me down and..." mmmmmm BURGERS.....`
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`12:49.29`	`puzzled`	`hi`
`13:04.50`	`TobSnyder`	`anybody know how to set Progress Indicator (Calling equipment is non-ISDN. (3)) on outgoing calls?`
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`13:11.25`	`TobSnyder`	`http://forums.digium.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=3847`
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`13:12.00`	`pabelanger`	`TobSnyder: Progress()?`
`13:12.54`	`TobSnyder`	`no thats not what I am searching for, I guess`
`13:14.16`	`TobSnyder`	`5 < Progress Indicator (len= 4) [ Ext: 1 Â Coding: CCITT (ITU) standard (0) Â 0: 0 Â Location: User (0) 5 < Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Ext: 1 Â Progress Description: Calling equipment is non-ISDN. (3) ]`
`13:14.25`	`TobSnyder`	`this is what I want to "imitate"`
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`13:50.31`	`Yudaisrael1984`	`hi`
`13:51.52`	`Yudaisrael1984`	`quick question when a user is listeinig to the voicemail using comedian mail the voicemail system is reading him the wrong time. i check on the msg0001.txt in the voicemail box and there it has the correct time`
`13:52.15`	`Yudaisrael1984`	`why is this happening (btw in linux when i write date it shows the correct time)`
`13:52.39`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Yudaisrael1984: Check the tz in yor voicemail configs`
`13:53.24`	`Yudaisrael1984`	`so i looked there and there is nothing written there in regards to the time zone`
`13:54.08`	`Yudaisrael1984`	`so shouldnt it be using the system time?`
`13:54.31`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Yudaisrael1984: No. VM users can be situated in different zones`
`13:54.51`	`Yudaisrael1984`	`thanks i will then write in the correct values thanks`
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`14:02.00`	`Katty`	`good morning pretties!`
`14:02.12`	`hrhrhr`	`g'day sport`
`14:02.31`	`Katty`	`what's the good word`
`14:03.36`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Katty: Haven't you heard?`
`14:04.12`	`Katty`	`[TK]D-Fender: it has groove?`
`14:04.23`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Katty: THE BIRD BIRD BIRD, THE BIRD IS THE WORD! I SAID THE BIRD BIRD BIRD, THE BIRD IS THE WORD! I SAID THE BIRD BIRD BIRD, THE BIRD IS THE WORD! I SAID THE BIRD BIRD BIRD, THE BIRD IS THE WORD! I SAID THE BIRD BIRD BIRD, THE BIRD IS THE WORD! I SAID THE BIRD BIRD BIRD, THE BIRD IS THE WORD! I SAID THE BIRD BIRD BIRD, THE BIRD IS THE WORD! I SAID THE BIRD BIRD BIRD, THE BIRD IS THE WORD!`
`14:05.15`	`Katty`	`infobot: bird`
`14:05.15`	`infobot`	`it has been said that bird is the word.`
`14:05.25`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`SEE?!?!`
`14:05.28`	`Katty`	`mhmm`
`14:05.32`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`:p`
`14:06.10`	`Yudaisrael1984`	`[Tk]D-Fender thanks i put in the values and it worked but heres another question why would a system stall after typing in reload on the cli??`
`14:06.38`	`Yudaisrael1984`	`so far every time i do a full reload (CLI COMMAND reload) my entire system stalls`
`14:07.13`	`Katty`	`what's the song with 'it has groove it has meaning'`
`14:07.54`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Yudaisrael1984: Unrelated and unqualified. Yuo'ev told us nothing about your setup. "Hi, my car doesn't work, WHY!?!?!"`
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`14:08.25`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Katty: Frankie Valli's "Grease"`
`14:09.26`	`Yudaisrael1984`	`ok so Asterisk 1.4.18.1 on centos 5.1`
`14:10.22`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Yudaisrael1984: Almost 20 releases behind on a dead branch? No thanks.`
`14:11.11`	`Yudaisrael1984`	`meaning that because its that old u dont want to even try to figure it out`
`14:11.13`	`Yudaisrael1984`	`got it`
`14:11.37`	`Katty`	`grooves`
`14:11.38`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Yudaisrael1984: You describe the sort of bugs that get found and fixed...`
`14:11.59`	`Yudaisrael1984`	`got it`
`14:12.02`	`Yudaisrael1984`	`thank u`
`14:12.06`	`Yudaisrael1984`	`have a good day`
`14:12.40`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Yudaisrael1984: Your's is 2 years old`
`14:14.08`	`Katty`	`i need a new song.`
`14:14.22`	`Katty`	`suggestions?`
`14:15.54`	`beek`	`Katty: I want a new drug?`
`14:15.56`	`beek`	`;)`
`14:17.48`	`Katty`	`goodness. what decade was this in`
`14:17.55`	`drmessano`	`He who upgrades last, reads slowest`
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`14:20.15`	`beek`	`Katty: 80s. Huey Lewis and the News`
`14:20.26`	`tzanger`	`that's the power of love!`
`14:20.37`	`tzanger`	`dammit now I have to go watch the back to the future trilogy`
`14:21.13`	`beek`	`Is that bad?`
`14:21.19`	`tzanger`	`Id on't have it with me`
`14:21.44`	`beek`	`That's bad.`
`14:22.12`	`drmessano`	`I am fresh out of Flux Capacitors`
`14:22.17`	`Katty`	`hugs beek`
`14:22.40`	`beek`	`hugs Katty`
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`14:25.38`	`tzanger`	`I had the control arms on the driver side replaced on my car. the thing feels like I'm travelling through time now when I hit a tight curve at high speed :-)`
`14:26.11`	`Katty`	`zooomzoooom`
`14:26.16`	`Katty`	`i approve of zoomzoom.`
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`14:27.46`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`[10:20]<tzanger>that's the power of love! <- on my perform list...`
`14:27.52`	`tzanger`	`the car's not a .. nissan? are those the zoomzoom cars?`
`14:27.55`	`tzanger`	`but it sure does zoomzoom`
`14:27.59`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Mazda <-`
`14:28.02`	`ManxPower`	`I just want to advise everyone to NEVER EVER EVER buy a NextTone switch.`
`14:28.19`	`tzanger`	`[TK]D-Fender: close. :-) I drive a vw`
`14:28.46`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Katty: Don't Dream It's Over - Crowded House`
`14:28.50`	`ManxPower`	`Their latest product is the Windows Vista / Windows ME of SBCs`
`14:28.55`	`Katty`	`tzanger: corvette= zooomzzoom`
`14:28.58`	`Katty`	`tzanger: also transam`
`14:29.14`	`tzanger`	`transam? eek`
`14:29.23`	`Katty`	`trans am = <3`
`14:29.26`	`tzanger`	`although I do think that the new chargers are hot`
`14:29.34`	`Katty`	`yes they're pretty.`
`14:29.42`	`Katty`	`not sure i'd drive one tho, not curvacious enough`
`14:29.42`	`tzanger`	`I don't know if they drive well (never been in one) but they sure look great`
`14:29.58`	`tzanger`	`my women need to be curvaceous, not my cars. :-P`
`14:29.58`	`Katty`	`those new eclipses are pretty`
`14:30.04`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`KITT <-------`
`14:30.11`	`Katty`	`[TK]D-Fender: i also approve of this song`
`14:30.16`	`ManxPower`	`I'll stick to my 1990 Ford Ranger, thankyouverymuch`
`14:30.24`	`Katty`	`what is a ford ranger`
`14:30.33`	`Katty`	`is that a truck?`
`14:30.40`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Katty: I'll be giving it a firt-run acoustic tonight...`
`14:30.43`	`Chainsaw`	`KITT was a 1983 Pontiac Firebird wasn't it?`
`14:30.43`	`ManxPower`	`Katty, light pickup truck, good gas mileage`
`14:30.44`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`first*`
`14:30.49`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ChaTrans-Am`
`14:31.12`	`tzanger`	`I've got a '99 passat, it goes like a bat outta hell, everything in it is stock except for my own ignition control module submodule (I blew a channel and I'll be damned if I'm gonna pay $300 for four stinking mosfets)`
`14:31.25`	`Naikrovek`	`i have a ford ranger and i hate it. it does get good mileage though`
`14:31.33`	`ManxPower`	`Naikrovek, why do you hate it?`
`14:31.39`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Chainsaw: Same basic profile, but the Trans-Am had the bigger motor, the bulge air-flo vent on the hood, and a few other things`
`14:31.45`	`Naikrovek`	`well i hate my particular one, not rangers in general`
`14:31.49`	`Chainsaw`	`[TK]D-Fender: nod`
`14:31.50`	`ManxPower`	`Ah.`
`14:31.52`	`Naikrovek`	`and i hate mine because it's a piece of S`
`14:31.53`	`tzanger`	`so I have a single mosfet on a heatsink tie-wrapped to a few hoses nearby and a couple wires to make the connections where needed. I want to build my own ICM and actually measure/montiro the spark current`
`14:32.13`	`tzanger`	`how goes, ManxPower? looooooong time no talk`
`14:32.26`	`Katty`	`ManxPower: ahh i see.`
`14:32.31`	`Chainsaw`	`Hi Katty :)`
`14:32.33`	`ManxPower`	`hey tzanger!`
`14:32.34`	`Katty`	`ManxPower: trucks are occasionally useful...for furniture`
`14:32.40`	`Katty`	`hugs on Chainsaw`
`14:32.42`	`Katty`	`Chainsaw: how're you dear?`
`14:32.58`	`Chainsaw`	`Katty: hug I'm good. Patton firmware upgrades went okay for a change :)\`
`14:33.04`	`Chainsaw`	`:) even.`
`14:33.06`	`Katty`	`Chainsaw: horay! :>`
`14:33.16`	`ManxPower`	`Katty, I used it for moving lumber, but keep it because 1) can't afford something else and 2) gets better gas mileage than most cars`
`14:33.23`	`tzanger`	`I'd like a truck, but I'm a farmboy at heart`
`14:33.35`	`Katty`	`ManxPower: nothing wrong with that`
`14:33.41`	`tzanger`	`I'd like a 350+cc enduro or dual-purpose too though`
`14:33.53`	`tzanger`	`ManxPower: really? what kind of mileage are you getting?`
`14:34.23`	`Katty`	`i should learn more about cars.`
`14:34.34`	`Katty`	`something more than just changing the oil`
`14:34.40`	`tzanger`	`I don't know too much but I am itching to start tinkering`
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`14:34.47`	`ManxPower`	`tzanger, not sure right now. Was getting something like 180 miles on a 1/4 tank of gas.`
`14:34.52`	`Katty`	`hi p3nguin <3`
`14:35.09`	`ManxPower`	`Don't know what it is currently since I got a new motor, but it is not much less.`
`14:35.15`	`tzanger`	`nods`
`14:35.16`	`p3nguin`	`hello`
`14:35.40`	`tzanger`	`I blew my motor 3 years ago (broke the timing belt, I never had a car that a) had a timing belt (instead of a chain) and b) had an interference engine`
`14:35.43`	`Katty`	`what useful things should i look into learning? it'd probably be good to know how to put a spare on. and check the air pressure in the tires`
`14:35.44`	`tzanger`	`that was a costly lesson`
`14:36.09`	`Katty`	`:<`
`14:36.10`	`ManxPower`	`tzafrir, my engine had just a little over 300,000 miles on it when it finally blew up.`
`14:36.18`	`Katty`	`i also killed my first car, due to not knowing about changing the oil`
`14:36.20`	`tzanger`	`but man the rebuilt engine is awesome, and I think they actually got the turbo working too`
`14:36.56`	`tzanger`	`ManxPower: nice... I blew the timing belt at 210000km (not bad for the original timing belt, heh, they're a recommended replace at 60kkm)`
`14:36.58`	`ManxPower`	`tzanger, The old engine will be rebuilt at some point so I have a spare.`
`14:37.26`	`tzanger`	`I just changed the original fuel filter too.. the mechanic said he'd never seen such nasty crap coming out of a fuel fitler before`
`14:37.43`	`tzanger`	`and last year I changed the plugs, they were still the original (1999) bosch ones`
`14:37.55`	`tzanger`	`I put iridium ones in, but I think I am going to put the original ones back in, it ran better with them`
`14:38.23`	`ManxPower`	`tzanger, iridium sparkplugs? Don't they only work when you have a clear view of the sky? 8-)`
`14:38.41`	`tzanger`	`Katty: yeah basic maintenance... air pressure, change oil/air filter, check fluid levels and be able to identify when they look off`
`14:38.44`	`tzanger`	`ManxPower: hahaha`
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`14:43.10`	`Katty`	`tzanger: i will have to find someone to show me`
`14:43.15`	`hrhrhr`	`iridiums worked marginally better for me i'd say`
`14:43.27`	`Katty`	`tzanger: which is a bit of a problem because my girls know about as much about cars as i do`
`14:43.35`	`hrhrhr`	`decat and new plugs got me +20bhpz`
`14:45.46`	`hmmhesays`	`Katty`
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`14:46.39`	`Katty`	`matttttt.`
`14:47.19`	`hmmhesays`	`Whats shakin?`
`14:47.35`	`Katty`	`not a whole lot. come show me how to change a tire.`
`14:47.54`	`hmmhesays`	`do you have your service manual or not?`
`14:48.15`	`hmmhesays`	`that'll show you exactly where the jack points are`
`14:48.37`	`Katty`	`yeah but the service manual won't snuggle with me once the tire is changed.`
`14:48.44`	`hmmhesays`	`awwwww`
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`14:49.39`	`jayrod422`	`if i have two asterisk servers is there a way i can combine meetme rooms?`
`14:50.32`	`hmmhesays`	`originate a call between each server?`
`14:50.54`	`WIMPy`	`jayrod422: Just dial one from the other, but beware that joining conferences can give extra echo.`
`14:51.03`	`jayrod422`	`pretty much has two conferences (one on each server) and i want to combine them`
`14:51.11`	`jayrod422`	`how bad`
`14:51.56`	`WIMPy`	`Depends of the former situation, but it will make things worse.`
`14:52.34`	`tzanger`	`hrhrhr: I heard all kinds of good things about iridum plugs so I figured I'd give them a shot. Honestly though the 10 year old quad-ground platinum bosch plugs that were in there showed no real wear and the car ran great on them. I have also read that the 1.8T really seems to love them, so I may go back`
`14:53.06`	`tzanger`	`Katty: isn't there a meetup group or something similar in your area? I know that various auto shops in my neck of hte woods offer basic maintenance training days that are free and open to the public`
`14:54.11`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`[10:50]<WIMPy>jayrod422: Just dial one from the other, but beware that joining conferences can give extra echo. <- makes no sense. EC is at the edge. 2 internal meetme's don't count`
`14:54.27`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`jayrod422: You're FINE`
`14:54.48`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`jaySo Originate a call between them like they said`
`14:54.54`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`jayrod422: ^`
`14:55.34`	`Katty`	`tzanger: that's a good idea.`
`14:56.43`	`hmmhesays`	`otherwise it is pretty straightforward`
`14:56.45`	`tzanger`	`one word of advice on tire pressure -- buy your own air pressure gauge... never trust the one on the compressor. they're designed to be industrial strength and vandal-resistant, not accurate. :-)`
`14:56.48`	`hmmhesays`	`probably find a youtube video on it`
`14:58.35`	`WIMPy`	`[TK]D-Fender: What's "internal" about "two servers"?`
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`14:59.09`	`Katty`	`tzanger: is that something i can pick up at Target?`
`14:59.16`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`WIMPy: VoIP doesn't Echo so unless he's going to pump it out over analog the point is moot`
`14:59.24`	`tzanger`	`Katty: yep, or sears, or pep boys, or whatever the auto shop in your area is`
`14:59.32`	`Katty`	`tzanger: mkay`
`14:59.38`	`Katty`	`tzanger: how many pounds of pressure should a tire have?`
`14:59.46`	`hmmhesays`	`which includes speaker phones`
`14:59.52`	`tzanger`	`depends ont he vehicle and time of year and your kind of driving`
`15:00.13`	`WIMPy`	`Echo usually happens because the delay gets too long for the echo cancellers. So every bit of delay adds to the chances of massive echo.`
`15:00.14`	`Katty`	`elaborate.`
`15:00.22`	`tzanger`	`my car I put 34-36psi in year round, but I'm in Canada, not Arizona`
`15:00.38`	`Katty`	`colder it is, more pressure rquired?`
`15:00.39`	`tzanger`	`the tires usually have it written on the sidewalls what they are designed for`
`15:00.45`	`hmmhesays`	`Katty, it should be whatever your manufacturer recommends for that vehicle which should be printed on the sticker on the inside of your door`
`15:00.46`	`Katty`	`ah okay`
`15:01.00`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`WIMPy: Still not goin to happen :)`
`15:01.15`	`hmmhesays`	`36psi here you'll end up blowing a side wall out`
`15:01.31`	`tzanger`	`Katty: no, but I generally deflate slightly (couple psi) in really really hot climates because if you're driving hundreds of miles the friction and heat will get you what you want`
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`15:01.35`	`hmmhesays`	`that also seems awfully high for winter driving`
`15:01.40`	`tzanger`	`hmmhesays: where's here?`
`15:01.54`	`hmmhesays`	`tzanger, what the heck man your logic is completely backward...`
`15:02.13`	`Katty`	`how often do you check tire pressure?`
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`15:02.32`	`tzanger`	`Katty: your supposed to do it weekly... I do it maybe once every few months or before a long trip`
`15:02.33`	`hmmhesays`	`you want more of the surface of the tire to contact the road in winter conditions and less in hot conditions`
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`15:03.23`	`tzanger`	`hmmhesays: yes, but there's also a performance/mileage tradeoff... honestly I inflate them to the same pressure in my area (ontario, canada) year-round`
`15:03.43`	`hmmhesays`	`36psi is way to high for an average consumer grade tire`
`15:04.16`	`hmmhesays`	`unless you're running low profile 18-20 performance tires`
`15:04.42`	`tzanger`	`nah, regular old tires. maybe I've been leading a charmed life`
`15:04.51`	`tzanger`	`I'll go check the sidewalls at lunch, I'm pretty sure they say 34`
`15:05.39`	`Katty`	`hi leifmadsen`
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`15:05.52`	`hmmhesays`	`tzanger, the print on the side of the tire is the Maximum recommended pressure, the average pressure recommended by the manufacturer of the vehicle is on the maintenance sticker`
`15:06.13`	`leifmadsen`	`Katty: ohai!`
`15:06.15`	`leifmadsen`	`tzanger: hi!`
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`15:06.27`	`Katty`	`hugs leifmadsen`
`15:06.48`	`leifmadsen`	`ACK hugs Katty`
`15:06.52`	`ManxPower`	`Does anyone have any real world examples of what would cause Asterisk to return a SIP 503 or 603 response?`
`15:08.07`	`tzanger`	`hey leifmadsen how's the new digs?`
`15:08.30`	`leifmadsen`	`tzanger: great! we just had our 2 week inspection and nothing too major going on -- getting our slate sealed today`
`15:08.49`	`tzanger`	`does anyone here know of OEM hw echo can ICs? I'm looking for only 2 channels (yes, this client's an idiot)`
`15:09.02`	`leifmadsen`	`tzanger: appliances came on Saturday, so that was nice :)`
`15:09.07`	`ManxPower`	`wonders if leifmadsen has realized that "marry" means "throw out all his stuff when you move in together"`
`15:09.20`	`leifmadsen`	`ManxPower: I just left all my stuff in my condo downtown`
`15:09.41`	`ManxPower`	`leifmadsen, I'm still sorry for your loss.`
`15:09.51`	`leifmadsen`	`heh`
`15:09.55`	`leifmadsen`	`ya, but now I have all new stuff`
`15:10.07`	`leifmadsen`	`you'd not feel very sorry for me if you saw my dining room table I bought`
`15:10.17`	`leifmadsen`	`everyone seems to comment on it`
`15:11.41`	`Katty`	`well i'm happy for leif`
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`15:11.50`	`Katty`	`hugs on leifmadsen`
`15:11.51`	`leifmadsen`	`I'm happy for that guy too :)`
`15:11.55`	`leifmadsen`	`he's alllllllright`
`15:11.58`	`tzanger`	`heh`
`15:12.00`	`Katty`	`mhmm`
`15:12.08`	`Katty`	`and he deserves to be happy!`
`15:12.08`	`leifmadsen`	`tzanger: I owe you a beer`
`15:12.18`	`tzanger`	`you do?`
`15:12.26`	`tzanger`	`er yes, I mean yeah I remember that!`
`15:12.27`	`leifmadsen`	`tzanger: yes, but you have to come hang out to get it`
`15:14.26`	`Belgarath`	`not going to happen :P`
`15:14.56`	`Katty`	`you totally owe me a soda, too.`
`15:15.30`	`Belgarath`	`and me a keg of vodka`
`15:16.16`	`Katty`	`Belgarath: you would die.`
`15:16.29`	`path`	`what can mean a yellowish led on a TE140P ?`
`15:16.39`	`path`	`theres an E1 plugged in`
`15:16.39`	`Belgarath`	`Well some people are better suited for drinking than others`
`15:16.53`	`Katty`	`Belgarath: you cannot down a keg of vodka.`
`15:17.03`	`Katty`	`Belgarath: unless you are cleaning with it, in which case feel free to clean my house for me`
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`15:20.20`	`evangelion`	`hello`
`15:20.32`	`evangelion`	`does anyone know how to disable SRV lookups on asterisk?`
`15:21.00`	`evangelion`	`we see many of these messages`
`15:21.01`	`evangelion`	`17:13:56.051088 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 64, id 49009, offset 0, flags [DF], proto UDP (17), length 73) 212.183.160.14.58872 > 80.76.80.2.53: 64808+ SRV? _h323ls._udp.83.137`
`15:21.15`	`Belgarath`	`Katty: that depnds how big the keg is`
`15:21.37`	`Belgarath`	`but usually it is something below 20l`
`15:21.41`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`evangelion: srvlookup=no`
`15:22.07`	`evangelion`	`[TK]D-Fender: in h323.conf?`
`15:22.53`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`evangelion: Go try`
`15:23.06`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`evangelion: And this is clearly a channel driver parameter`
`15:23.31`	`evangelion`	`[TK]D-Fender: i know! is it out of topic?`
`15:26.09`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`evangelion: No, you jsut asked a config question...`
`15:26.41`	`evangelion`	`OK, thank you`
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`15:27.34`	`daemon`	`hey all what codec should I be using if I have an upload of 765kbps (90KBps) I may have up to 3 outbound calls`
`15:27.37`	`daemon`	`likely not many more though`
`15:27.43`	`hrhrhr`	`evangelion: as an aside, what software outputs the above message?`
`15:27.56`	`hrhrhr`	`g711a`
`15:28.04`	`daemon`	`thank you hrhrhr`
`15:28.05`	`evangelion`	`hrhrhr: tcpdump`
`15:28.06`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`daemon: Whatever you want`
`15:28.10`	`hrhrhr`	`k`
`15:28.15`	`daemon`	`[TK]D-Fender, ?`
`15:28.26`	`daemon`	`[TK]D-Fender, sorry I wanted to know which would work without breaking apart :P`
`15:28.32`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`daemon: Not sure what isn't clear about that. bandwidth isn't an issue`
`15:28.38`	`daemon`	`oh ok`
`15:29.06`	`daemon`	`thank you :)`
`15:30.19`	`evangelion`	`thank you`
`15:30.20`	`evangelion`	`bye`
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`15:39.01`	`Katty`	`hmmhesays: the lil sticker on my car door says 30psi, and something about adding 4psi when tires are hot.`
`15:41.24`	`Kobaz`	`rubber expands with heat`
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`15:43.23`	`Katty`	`oh ah.`
`15:43.24`	`p3nguin`	`I hate how low my sticker suggests to inflate my tires. I think it wants 26 on the front and 27 on the rear.`
`15:43.27`	`Qwell`	`Kobaz: it's the air itself that gets compressed/expanded`
`15:43.52`	`p3nguin`	`Any the max pressure on my tires is 44.`
`15:43.54`	`hrhrhr`	`you let air out normally when it's hot? around a track/hard driving anywya`
`15:44.25`	`Naikrovek`	`fill with nitrogen gas to stop the expansion and contraction of the air in your tires`
`15:44.31`	`p3nguin`	`You're not supposed to reduce the pressure when it's hot.`
`15:45.08`	`Qwell`	`I wonder if you could fill your tires with helium...`
`15:45.17`	`Qwell`	`well, I mean, obviously you could, but what would happen?`
`15:45.41`	`p3nguin`	`Didn't the Mythbusters try that?`
`15:45.45`	`Qwell`	`did they?`
`15:45.50`	`p3nguin`	`I think they did.`
`15:46.07`	`p3nguin`	`It could have been a dream of mine.`
`15:46.49`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`I've seen all of them up until the last month and so far no, they haven't to my awareness`
`15:47.26`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`I can imagine it being perhaps measurable, but certainly not significant`
`15:48.57`	`Katty`	`is there supposed to be a psi suggestion on the tire too?`
`15:49.04`	`Katty`	`like printed /on/ the tire, somewhere`
`15:49.24`	`p3nguin`	`They did put helium in a football.`
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`15:50.12`	`p3nguin`	`katty: Tires will have a maximum inflation printed on them.`
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`15:50.29`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`[11:49]<p3nguin>They did put helium in a football. <- THAT I could believe might be "significant`
`15:50.41`	`Qwell`	`[TK]D-Fender: negatively`
`15:50.49`	`xoveruk`	`I would really appreciate if someone could guide me through troubleshooting an AIX trunk that is not working`
`15:51.12`	`Qwell`	`[TK]D-Fender: in order to get the same pressure, you'd have to add more, meaning it would be heavier`
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`15:51.57`	`p3nguin`	`But helium is lighter than air... there are a lot of factors involved.`
`15:53.08`	`p3nguin`	`katty: If your tires are "load rated" tires, they will have a couple different pressures listed for varying load amounts.`
`15:53.40`	`Katty`	`p3nguin: i'll go have a look and see if i can find it printed on the tire somewhere.`
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`15:55.13`	`xoveruk`	`can anyone advise how i can check if a trunk is connecting?`
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`15:56.00`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`p3nguin: "A regulation NFL football will fly farther when filled with helium as opposed to compressed air at regulation pressure (13 psi). busted Under the same amount of impulse force under the same atmospheric conditions, balls filled with helium showed no significant difference from balls filled with compressed air. It was also shown that, under the same impulse, both types of balls...`
`15:56.02`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`...had the same initial velocity; since the helium-filled balls have less mass than the air-filled ones, the helium-filled balls have less inertia in flight: in fact, they may perform worse than air-filled balls over larger distances.`
`15:56.18`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xoveruk: Define "connecting"`
`15:56.41`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`p3nguin: Lighter, but acts counter-intuitive to`
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`15:57.18`	`xoveruk`	`[TK]D-Fender if the trunk is established?`
`15:57.35`	`p3nguin`	`katty: http://www.aa1car.com/library/tire_info.gif`
`15:57.41`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xoveruk: There is no such thing as "established". VoIP is not a "connection"`
`15:58.07`	`xoveruk`	`I cannot make outbound calls.`
`15:58.22`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xoveruk: You can see if that accepted a REGISTRATION from you (if you do so), and you can look at CALL ATTEMPTS. but there is no permanent "connection"`
`15:58.33`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xoveruk: Then perhaps you should look at the OUTBOUND CALL`
`15:59.00`	`xoveruk`	`how do I do this?`
`15:59.26`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xoveruk: "help sip" <- go enaqble SIP DEBUG. and PASETBIN is your friend.`
`15:59.28`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`~pb`
`15:59.28`	`infobot`	`[~pb] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you should paste anything over 3 lines so you don't flood the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://bin.cakephp.org/ , http://asterisk.pastey.net/ , or install pastebinit with yum or aptitude.`
`15:59.30`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`^^^^`
`15:59.37`	`p3nguin`	`katty: http://www.fleet-central.com/resources/WT2007_07_34_1.jpg`
`16:02.37`	`xoveruk`	`I have an iax2 unreachable status next to the trunk that i want to use.`
`16:03.03`	`xoveruk`	`I do not know what the output of these commands means as i cannot find documentation on them, just how to execute them.`
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`16:07.36`	`xoveruk`	`[TK]D-Fender where do i see these REGISTRATION events`
`16:08.12`	`ManxPower`	`Does anyone have any real world examples of what would cause Asterisk to return a SIP 503 or 603 response?`
`16:08.49`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xoveruk: pastebin your configs masking ONLY passwords as well as "iax2 show peers"`
`16:09.23`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ManxPower: If you accept a call but don't Answer() it and your other dialplan just ends without and dial attempt, etc, you'll get a 603`
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`16:13.33`	`xoveruk`	`[TK]D-Fender when i issue iax2 show peers it display the port numberand next to some of the prots (T) what does that stand for?`
`16:14.00`	`fullstop`	`Hi! Is there anywhere to look for definitions / examples of trunkgroups, spanmaps and channels? chan_dahdi.conf is rather confusing to me, and I'd like to understand what I am doing. In the end, I would like to have both a TE122 and TDM410P configured.`
`16:14.20`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xoveruk: PASTEBIN <------------`
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`16:16.53`	`xoveruk`	`[TK]D-Fender http://pastebin.com/jaRi4TCn`
`16:17.42`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xoveruk: I don't see legit IP's in there, I don't see the configs I asked for and you haven't clarified which entry I should be looking at`
`16:19.56`	`hrhrhr`	`xoveruk: where are those trunks going? the latency is huge. pipe being raped?`
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`16:21.57`	`xoveruk`	`hrhrhr it is bad at times`
`16:22.01`	`p3nguin`	`xoveruk: The (T) means you have trunk enabled for that peer.`
`16:22.02`	`xoveruk`	`is there a limit?`
`16:22.10`	`hrhrhr`	`i dunno`
`16:22.12`	`ManxPower`	`Thanks, TK.`
`16:22.15`	`p3nguin`	`trunk=yes`
`16:22.17`	`hrhrhr`	`but it is prolly the reason they are unreachable`
`16:22.28`	`ManxPower`	`Does anyone know of a way to make Asterisk delay a few ms before sending the ack?`
`16:22.35`	`xoveruk`	`does it require ICMP enabled on the firewall?`
`16:22.55`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ManxPower: the ACK to what?`
`16:23.02`	`hrhrhr`	`it requires qualify=yes in your config for each peer`
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`16:23.08`	`hrhrhr`	`if some are working, i doubt it's a firewalling issue`
`16:23.13`	`ManxPower`	`[TK]D-Fender, the reinvite`
`16:23.22`	`hrhrhr`	`i think it sends tcp/udp echo requests anyway`
`16:23.25`	`hrhrhr`	`could be wrong tho`
`16:23.29`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ManxPower: Oh... vi chan_sip.so`
`16:23.51`	`ManxPower`	`[TK]D-Fender, I'll answer my boss with "no" then.`
`16:25.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ManxPower: Correct answer :0`
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`16:26.19`	`xoveruk`	`hrhrhr one of the trunks that shows a reponse time doesnt repond to ICMP echo request, so I assume this is not relevant`
`16:26.52`	`xoveruk`	`I can see the call made in real time but it errors with engaged tone.`
`16:27.18`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`[12:17]<[TK]D-Fender>xoveruk: I don't see legit IP's in there, I don't see the configs I asked for and you haven't clarified which entry I should be looking at <--------`
`16:27.57`	`xoveruk`	`SN02 trunk`
`16:29.53`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xoveruk: Provide the rest please.`
`16:30.23`	`xoveruk`	`http://pastebin.com/Uv417TL9`
`16:31.27`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xoveruk: MASK ONLY PASSWORDS. Try again <_`
`16:33.01`	`xoveruk`	`why do you need the IPs?`
`16:33.13`	`p3nguin`	`Why doesn't he need them?`
`16:33.22`	`xoveruk`	`Why does he need them?`
`16:34.10`	`ManxPower`	`$100 BOUNTY FOR: we need a patch to Asterisk 1.4.20 to add some kind of delay between when Asterisk ACKs a 200 OK and sends the reinvite for reinvite=yes`
`16:34.14`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`bECAUSE i CAN'T TRUST WHAT IS real IN THERE`
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`16:35.15`	`xoveruk`	`how many ms is this?`
`16:35.16`	`xoveruk`	`timelimit=21600000`
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`16:35.25`	`xoveruk`	`the IPs match`
`16:35.36`	`xoveruk`	`This was working yesterday`
`16:35.58`	`Qwell`	`21600000ms is 21600000ms`
`16:36.08`	`Qwell`	`Your question fails to parse...`
`16:36.46`	`xoveruk`	`after the number was dialed i received that message`
`16:36.48`	`xoveruk`	`timelimit=21600000`
`16:36.48`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`[12:35]<xoveruk>This was working yesterday <- doesn't do a thing to help you`
`16:36.50`	`xoveruk`	`what does that mean?`
`16:36.55`	`hmmhesays`	`Katty sounds about right`
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`16:42.16`	`xoveruk`	`what does Rx-Frame Retry mean on the CLI?`
`16:42.41`	`xoveruk`	`that the frame was dropped due to congestion?`
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`16:48.37`	`xoveruk`	`what would cause the trunk to show as UNREACHABLE?`
`16:48.51`	`p3nguin`	`Being unreachable, obviously.`
`16:49.12`	`p3nguin`	`Actual latency is far higher than the qualify time.`
`16:50.51`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Clearly doesn't really want this solved yet...`
`16:51.14`	`p3nguin`	`I knew that when he argued about the IP addresses.`
`16:51.36`	`p3nguin`	`Like you're going to hax0r his IPz and steal all his VoIPz.`
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`16:52.59`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`I have unlimited free calls and couldn't give a rats ass about anyone else connectivity. But if people want to play all paranoid with fractions of usable info then I'm not going to waste my time.`
`16:56.49`	`drmessano`	`Maybe he's worried you'll hack him and fix his box. Right now he's got 3 days into this tough problem and his boss is buying every minute of it`
`16:57.07`	`p3nguin`	`jajajaja`
`16:58.49`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`drmessano: I WANT MY WEEKEND BACK!@`
`16:59.32`	`Kobaz`	`were you laboring on labor day`
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`17:00.46`	`drmessano`	`"IF I FIX THIS I MAY HAVE TO WORK ON AN OUTLOOK PROBLEM. PLS STALL SOME MORE"`
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`17:01.09`	`ChannelZ`	`Attention: Call files in the future are nifty.`
`17:01.09`	`drmessano`	`"I MAY ALSO LEVEL UP IN FRONTIERVILLE"`
`17:01.17`	`ChannelZ`	`That is all.`
`17:01.37`	`drmessano`	`Call files in the past are shifty`
`17:02.02`	`ChannelZ`	`This hold music, however, is not.`
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`17:02.31`	`drmessano`	`I enjoy the sounds of Bollywood for my MoH at home`
`17:06.32`	`Katty`	`omnomnom chicken salad`
`17:06.46`	`tzanger`	`I'm gonna have me a jimmy john's sub I think`
`17:06.49`	`tzanger`	`ultimate porker`
`17:07.01`	`Katty`	`i've been debating trying that place`
`17:07.08`	`tzanger`	`I have only ever had one sub`
`17:07.12`	`tzanger`	`#17 the ultimate porker`
`17:07.17`	`tzanger`	`but it's good and I'm sticking to it`
`17:07.20`	`Katty`	`i presume it has meat.`
`17:07.20`	`tzanger`	`their cookies are good too`
`17:07.31`	`tzanger`	`Katty: yes, specifically piggy meat`
`17:07.32`	`Katty`	`is it shredded pork?`
`17:07.36`	`tzanger`	`no`
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`17:07.46`	`Katty`	`tenderloin?`
`17:07.46`	`tzanger`	`it's applewood smoked bacon and ham slices`
`17:07.53`	`Katty`	`oooh`
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`17:07.59`	`tzanger`	`it's delish`
`17:08.03`	`Katty`	`i like ham.`
`17:08.04`	`Katty`	`sometimes.`
`17:08.12`	`Katty`	`in small ammounts.`
`17:08.17`	`tzanger`	`I always go to the dog park and watch the dogs play while I eat and listen to the sports gossip`
`17:08.24`	`tzanger`	`I never understand any of it because I'm not a sports person`
`17:08.33`	`tzanger`	`but I find the debates and the passion with wish the people speak about it interesting`
`17:08.33`	`Katty`	`that's okay. you can pretend.`
`17:08.54`	`tzanger`	`or I end up listening to WDET (NPR) which I also find pretty damned interesting most of the time`
`17:08.57`	`Katty`	`some people do seem rather into it, tho i don't really understand why or how.`
`17:09.14`	`tzanger`	`I lvoe watchign my boy play hockey, but I can't stand watching NHL on tv`
`17:09.25`	`tzanger`	`although with good seats at the arena it's not bad, but by good seats I mean press box`
`17:09.25`	`Katty`	`well that's because it's your son.`
`17:09.43`	`tzanger`	`no, I don't know that it is... I have a theory on why I dislike professional sports in general`
`17:09.44`	`fauxalliance`	`s/good/distant`
`17:09.45`	`fullstop`	`I was unaware that Jimmy John's was in Canada.`
`17:09.56`	`tzanger`	`fullstop: it's not, I'm on contract in michigan for the next year or so`
`17:10.01`	`fullstop`	`ahh`
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`17:10.21`	`Katty`	`tzanger: oh?`
`17:10.26`	`fullstop`	`I can't stand watching most sports on TV... but I do enjoy watching american football..`
`17:10.41`	`tzanger`	`Katty: when I pay top dollar for an nhl game, I expect stellar performance. what you end up with is mediocre performance and a lot of bullshit posturing. the fact that they stop games for tv commercials kills me`
`17:11.31`	`Katty`	`tzanger: ah :<`
`17:11.39`	`fullstop`	`tzanger: Hopefully not near Detroit. ;-)`
`17:12.00`	`Katty`	`i have a small appreciation for football, but i think that's only because i was in halftime a lot`
`17:12.11`	`fullstop`	`marching unit, eh?`
`17:12.18`	`Katty`	`band, yeah`
`17:12.35`	`Katty`	`did flag core one year. it was boring`
`17:13.08`	`tzanger`	`Katty: but when I watch kids play, I'm expecting to have fun and once in a while you see a really good play and it is just like the cherry on top of an enjoyable day`
`17:13.22`	`fullstop`	`I went to high school with Luke Ravenstahl. He played the drums in the marching unit, and somehow ended up as the mayor of Pittsburgh.`
`17:13.23`	`tzanger`	`wheras pro sports you have a certain expectation of stellar performance and you're oftentimes disappointed`
`17:13.34`	`russellb`	`Katty: marching band <3`
`17:13.44`	`tzanger`	`fullstop: I'm in Plymouth`
`17:13.54`	`russellb`	`did drumline back in the day`
`17:14.04`	`Katty`	`tzanger: ahhh, yes. i can understand that.`
`17:14.17`	`Katty`	`tzanger: it's also fun seeing kids having fun`
`17:14.30`	`tzanger`	`Katty: that and pro games are so goddamned expensive too it helps to "justify" the expectation`
`17:14.51`	`fullstop`	`Hockey equipment for children is quite expensive as well.`
`17:14.55`	`Katty`	`russellb: drumline++`
`17:14.55`	`tzanger`	`fullstop: yes.`
`17:15.19`	`Katty`	`russellb: i would have totally considering dating you in college.`
`17:15.24`	`fullstop`	`My kids are only 6 and 2, so it's not an issue yet. I don't see them wanting to play hockey, though.`
`17:15.41`	`Katty`	`smart + drumline = win`
`17:15.47`	`russellb`	`Katty: haha, i'm flattered.`
`17:15.55`	`tzanger`	`fullstop: 15, 11, 10, 6 and 18mos for me. the 10yo is playing hockey, and I bet the 18mo will too`
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`17:16.13`	`Katty`	`russellb: <3`
`17:16.16`	`russellb`	`<3`
`17:16.25`	`Katty`	`anyone seen google's logo today?`
`17:16.29`	`fullstop`	`tzanger: that's a lot of kids. :)`
`17:16.39`	`russellb`	`Katty: holy crap`
`17:16.41`	`russellb`	`that's crazy`
`17:16.51`	`Katty`	`yes, but what's it for`
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`17:19.26`	`sarg`	`trying to find out why asterisk stuck in ast_waitfor_nandfds for some calls? any ideas?`
`17:20.05`	`drmessano`	`Google's birthday`
`17:20.12`	`p3nguin`	`Again?`
`17:20.18`	`russellb`	`sarg: that is normal, it's not stuck`
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`17:20.42`	`russellb`	`that is the sleep state, while it waits for something to happen (audio to arrive and be processed, for example)`
`17:21.01`	`sarg`	`russelb, it should catch 200 OK from other side`
`17:21.19`	`drmessano`	`Again? Yeah, every year`
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`17:23.41`	`p3nguin`	`I thought they had a birthday logo a while back (this year), which included a birthday cake. Perhaps it was for someone else.`
`17:29.15`	`*** topic/#asterisk by russellb -> Asterisk: The Open Source PBX and Telephony Platform (asterisk.org) -=- Asterisk 1.8.0-beta4 (2010/08/24), 1.6.2.11 (2010/08/10), 1.4.35 (2010/08/10), *-Addons 1.6.2.1, 1.4.11 (2010/04/15), dahdi-linux 2.3.1 (2010/05/25), dahdi-tools 2.3.0 (2010/04/13), libpri 1.4.11.3 (2010/06/29) -=- Related channels: #asterisknow,#switchvox,#freepbx,#asterisk-dev,#asterisk-bugs,#astricon`
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`17:44.40`	`kalimc`	`Are the T1/E1 cables just standard Cat5 Ethernet cables? Can I put a load balancer in front of a digium card?`
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`17:46.13`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`kalYou can plug whatever you want in front as long as the signalling matches`
`17:46.19`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`kalimc: ^`
`17:46.31`	`kalimc`	`ah ok, thanks`
`17:46.41`	`Katty`	`hmmhesays: http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs31/f/2008/235/e/4/more21_by_vankuilenburg.jpg`
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`17:49.17`	`hmmhesays`	`Katty, that is pretty sweet`
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`17:50.39`	`wcselby`	`o/`
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`18:08.29`	`fullstop`	`Do sip trunks require a dedicated timing source like IAX2 trunks?`
`18:08.29`	`Katty`	`hey wcselby`
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`18:09.09`	`fullstop`	`I'm looking at setting up a small phone system, which runs on an embedded platform.. where it will be difficult to obtain a dedicated timing source.`
`18:10.09`	`fullstop`	`Now, I am somewhat new to *, so maybe I am doing something wrong... but I would like the phones hooked up to the embedded platform to be able to call each other, but I wish for them to connect to a remote system to make outbound calls.`
`18:11.22`	`p3nguin`	`That's what Asterisk does.`
`18:11.26`	`fullstop`	`I have IAX2 set up between the two, so that I can call users on the central host.. but I can't seem to make it accept calls to generic "_91800NXXXXXX" types.`
`18:11.34`	`fullstop`	`p3nguin: hey, I'm in the right place. ;-)`
`18:11.48`	`fullstop`	`I'm sure I am doing something stupid, but I'd like to know how stupid I am being.`
`18:11.59`	`p3nguin`	`Do you have a dialplan for 91800 numbers?`
`18:12.30`	`fullstop`	`I set up a context, [from-trusted-remote], and included the trunkld context from the samples.`
`18:12.44`	`p3nguin`	`Also, the whole 9 on the front of numbers is pretty silly. Consider revising that.`
`18:13.27`	`fullstop`	`p3nguin: that will be gone, but until I move the T1 circuit, I am interfacing with an analog card to an existing system.`
`18:13.58`	`p3nguin`	`Let's start with a single phone. You created a peer entry for it... what context did you set in that peer entry?`
`18:14.03`	`fullstop`	`wow, let me check something.. if I did what I think I did, I should be ashamed. I will inform you of my ineptitude shortly.`
`18:16.35`	`fullstop`	`p3nguin: okay, I am inept. :-D`
`18:16.54`	`fullstop`	`p3nguin: it is working now. I doubled up a digit in the dial plan.`
`18:17.17`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`fullstop: No. YOu saw your own error and understand it, AND owned up to it. That qualifies as a "silly OOPS"`
`18:18.59`	`fullstop`	`:-D`
`18:19.54`	`Katty`	`omg.`
`18:19.56`	`Katty`	`google logo.`
`18:19.58`	`Katty`	`shake the browser`
`18:20.03`	`Katty`	`SHAKE EEET`
`18:20.19`	`Katty`	`win.`
`18:20.58`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Katty: huh?`
`18:21.38`	`p3nguin`	`grabbed the monitor off the desk and shook it vigorously...`
`18:21.42`	`p3nguin`	`Nothing.`
`18:22.57`	`Katty`	`[TK]D-Fender: pull up google.com in your browser, and drag the browser around`
`18:24.04`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Katty: Thought thats what you meant and when I tried... nothing`
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`18:24.41`	`sol`	`hi everyone`
`18:24.46`	`sol`	`I just noticed Yealink phones "call home"`
`18:24.49`	`sol`	`via UDP port 123`
`18:24.55`	`sol`	`to places in China`
`18:25.02`	`sol`	`thought I'd let everyone know...`
`18:25.02`	`Katty`	`well hello there.`
`18:25.05`	`Katty`	`i'm doing fine, thanks for asking`
`18:25.06`	`Katty`	`how are you`
`18:25.16`	`sol`	`awesome, thanks, potential bot!`
`18:25.18`	`odenkos_ntbk`	`sol: I'm using them, lol`
`18:25.37`	`Katty`	`you're a bot.`
`18:25.45`	`sol`	`odenkos_ntbk; I haven't poked at the traffic, you might wanna firewall off outgoing port 123`
`18:25.59`	`sol`	`I'm not sure why these phones would need to do this`
`18:26.21`	`odenkos_ntbk`	`sol: info about users is always useful`
`18:27.00`	`sol`	`odenkos_ntbk; of course it is. credit card #s are too.`
`18:27.41`	`Naikrovek`	`[TK]D-Fender: try it in chrome`
`18:27.47`	`sol`	`they don't ask to do it`
`18:27.49`	`sol`	`nor mention that they do`
`18:28.00`	`sol`	`poking through the extended configs to see if theres anything`
`18:28.46`	`odenkos_ntbk`	`sol: let me know if you find smthng`
`18:28.48`	`sol`	`yea I don't see anything about "Send information to manufacturer in China" anywhere`
`18:30.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`sol: And what NTP server are they pointed to?`
`18:31.33`	`sol`	`shit 123 is ntp?`
`18:31.43`	`sol`	`that'll do it...`
`18:31.45`	`sol`	`sorry :)`
`18:32.15`	`sol`	`I should've checked /etc/services first hehe`
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`18:35.07`	`p3nguin`	`Changing the NTP address to something not in China fixes that, right?`
`18:35.12`	`sol`	`p3nguin; should.`
`18:35.13`	`chuckf`	`it can still be a problem if the ntp is pointed outside your network`
`18:35.30`	`sol`	`I do have a default NTP server inside the net`
`18:35.40`	`sol`	`it shouldn't be going out, but it's my fault for assuming it was a call home`
`18:35.41`	`p3nguin`	`Lots of people use external NTP peers.`
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`18:36.42`	`chuckf`	`yeah, but if your phone is pointed to an unknown ntp server, they may be tracking where their phones are being used`
`18:36.57`	`chuckf`	`thus letting them know where a potential phone system is`
`18:37.42`	`sol`	`seems safe enough`
`18:37.49`	`sol`	`they're using cn.pool.ntp.org`
`18:37.58`	`sol`	`so just any random chinese NTP server`
`18:38.52`	`chuckf`	`that's not as bad, but I would still configure phones to an internal ntp`
`18:39.14`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`[14:31]<sol>shit 123 is ntp? <- chump :p`
`18:39.17`	`p3nguin`	`If it were a very specific server address, I would start putting that address on every system I encountered so they would think their phones are in places where they aren't.`
`18:39.54`	`sol`	`[TK]D-Fender; lol. I double checked when you asked :)`
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`18:40.40`	`sol`	`p3nguin; they'd probably fly a jet over and bomb me thinking I've copied their firmware to make my own SIP Phone company`
`18:41.51`	`TobSnyder`	`does anybody know how to set progress indicator in isnd setup message`
`18:46.26`	`sol`	`Katty; you could have been a bot`
`18:48.48`	`sol`	`the odds of you being a friendly female IRC user were 1/61766`
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`18:57.31`	`Katty`	`sol: orly.`
`18:57.33`	`Katty`	`infobot: Katty`
`18:57.34`	`infobot`	`well, katty is the only girl in the channel, so be nice to her`
`18:57.40`	`Kobaz`	`haha`
`18:57.54`	`Katty`	`how bout them odds!`
`18:59.34`	`Katty`	`also, i checked my tires and it says max psi 25`
`18:59.39`	`Katty`	`but the car sticker says 30`
`19:01.39`	`p3nguin`	`The tires say 25 psi max? That's not very common.`
`19:01.48`	`p3nguin`	`Most say 35 or 44.`
`19:02.00`	`p3nguin`	`Common passenger car tires, that is.`
`19:04.09`	`fullstop`	`Mine are 32 psi max`
`19:04.23`	`fullstop`	`sorry.. 32 psi is what they want, you can go higher.. but I wouldn't do it.`
`19:05.56`	`Katty`	`idk...my car is tiny`
`19:06.01`	`Katty`	`does that have something to do with it perhaps`
`19:06.13`	`p3nguin`	`What kind of car is it?`
`19:06.24`	`Katty`	`pontiac sunfire`
`19:06.50`	`p3nguin`	`It should have pretty standard 14" tires on it, with probably 35 psi max ratings.`
`19:06.57`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Katty: Far from "tiny"`
`19:07.15`	`p3nguin`	`Even the 12" tires on a Metro have at least 44 psi max rating.`
`19:07.22`	`Kobaz`	`14" is pretty small`
`19:07.39`	`p3nguin`	`standard on passenger cars.`
`19:13.13`	`tzanger`	`25?! wow`
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`19:14.32`	`Katty`	`i wonder why mine are so low then`
`19:15.11`	`Kobaz`	`cheap crappy tires?`
`19:15.16`	`sol`	`Katty; yes, definitely. I'm not a gambling man, but %0.0016 seemed like a safe bet.`
`19:15.24`	`sol`	`er, to bet against.`
`19:15.26`	`sol`	`I guess that's why I'm not a gambling man`
`19:15.33`	`Katty`	`Kobaz: not that i'm aware of.`
`19:16.00`	`Katty`	`but mayhaps i should have someone look at my tires`
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`19:18.09`	`sol`	`Katty; go with the tires psi`
`19:18.13`	`sol`	`it'll never be wrong`
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`19:18.35`	`mducharme-laptop`	`afternoon`
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`19:19.04`	`mducharme-laptop`	`I'm trying to use penalties in a queue`
`19:19.07`	`mducharme-laptop`	`but it doesn't seem to work`
`19:20.05`	`mducharme-laptop`	`for phones that are penalty 0 it rings them just fine`
`19:20.14`	`mducharme-laptop`	`anything with penalty 1 rings for a split second and then stops`
`19:20.28`	`b0ot`	`how do you register non number users?`
`19:20.59`	`mducharme-laptop`	`anybody have any suggestions?`
`19:21.41`	`sol`	`Katty; sidewall flex isn't really that important, it's just that your tire tread should be ideally flat to the ground`
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`19:22.23`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`b0ot: Don't name them numbers`
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`19:22.46`	`b0ot`	`in the sip.conf`
`19:23.02`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`b0ot: [whateveryouwanthere]`
`19:23.24`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`b0ot: [tom] , [dick], [harry]`
`19:23.36`	`b0ot`	`[TK]D-Fender, would it be`
`19:26.32`	`TobSnyder`	`[Sep 7 21:26:08] NOTICE[23900]: chan_iax2.c:6486 update_registry: Restricting registration for peer '940' to 60 seconds (requested 300)`
`19:26.33`	`TobSnyder`	`2`
`19:32.30`	`Kobaz`	`damn`
`19:32.37`	`Kobaz`	`pgadmin just took out my computer`
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`19:43.12`	`kalimc`	`is there any how-to's on installing the dahdi_dummy driver?`
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`19:45.44`	`p3nguin`	`Install dahdi and the dummy will be included.`
`19:47.19`	`kalimc`	`ok great`
`19:47.21`	`kalimc`	`ty`
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`19:49.03`	`b0ot`	`[TK]D-Fender, so if the name was something like sip:fooname@10.1.1.1`
`19:49.09`	`b0ot`	`what would i put in the []`
`19:49.32`	`citywok`	`[fooname]`
`19:49.32`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`fooname`
`19:50.20`	`carrar`	`foobar!`
`19:52.27`	`Naikrovek`	`foobert`
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`19:52.33`	`Kobaz`	`dogbert`
`19:52.39`	`Naikrovek`	`ratbar`
`19:52.56`	`p3nguin`	`foghorn`
`19:57.16`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`leghorn`
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`20:07.00`	`b0ot`	`[TK]D-Fender, what does status unreachable mean`
`20:07.11`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`b0ot: Means it can't be reached.`
`20:07.19`	`b0ot`	`i mean i get the imediate definition`
`20:07.22`	`b0ot`	`but why might that be`
`20:07.23`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Doctor, doctor, it hurts when I raise my arm like this!`
`20:07.29`	`citywok`	`b/c you did something wrong`
`20:07.34`	`b0ot`	`I am able to call out on it`
`20:07.39`	`b0ot`	`but not call the device`
`20:07.47`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`b0ot: perhaps it never REGISTERED`
`20:07.57`	`citywok`	`it could call out if you have guest access enabled, so that could mean nohting at all`
`20:07.59`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`b0ot: Or it did and failed a QUALIFY.`
`20:08.17`	`b0ot`	`sip show registry says 0 sip registrations`
`20:08.23`	`p3nguin`	`The phone can call out even if guest access is disabled.`
`20:08.24`	`b0ot`	`but my phones show that they are registered on them`
`20:08.28`	`citywok`	`no shit b/c it says unreachable`
`20:08.48`	`p3nguin`	`Guest access is for unauthenticated calls. The phone could very easily send authentication when it is making the call.`
`20:08.50`	`b0ot`	`citywok, i have 2 phones that say status OK`
`20:08.59`	`citywok`	`when you make a call do show channels and see what it thinks the peer is`
`20:10.37`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`[16:08]<b0ot>sip show registry says 0 sip registrations <- this is ASTERISK registering OUT, not your PHONES registering IN`
`20:11.33`	`b0ot`	`[TK]D-Fender, ahh thanks`
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`20:20.12`	`Katty`	`peeks in`
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`20:22.05`	`cityLights`	`hi all`
`20:22.17`	`cityLights`	`can I ask about asterisk manager interface here?`
`20:22.34`	`citywok`	`don't ask if you can ask, just ask`
`20:23.01`	`cityLights`	`good, right channel`
`20:23.20`	`cityLights`	`to use playDTMF I need to know the Channel`
`20:24.05`	`cityLights`	`I originate a call , so I know the extension in that channel, but I miss the serial here:`
`20:24.20`	`cityLights`	`SIP/100-xxxxx`
`20:24.52`	`citywok`	`why can't use use playdtmf in the dialplan?`
`20:25.03`	`cityLights`	`how to get that xxxxx when I already know the extesioin`
`20:25.04`	`cityLights`	`?`
`20:25.06`	`citywok`	`pass the DTMF to be passed with your originate command in a variable`
`20:25.16`	`citywok`	`and handle all of that from your dialplan`
`20:25.36`	`cityLights`	`can I pass dtmf when originating a call?`
`20:25.40`	`citywok`	`also, when you originate a call it will tell you what the channel was that got originated, type it in to the console by hand and look at what it spits back at you if you'd rather do it this way`
`20:25.50`	`cityLights`	`even then I will need to send the password later`
`20:26.01`	`citywok`	`no, but you can pass a variable with the DTMF digits when originating the call, and then use dialplan to play the DTMF for you`
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`20:26.21`	`citywok`	`less risk of missing something that way`
`20:26.54`	`cityLights`	`citywok: can you please show me such an example of sending dtmf as variables?`
`20:27.17`	`citywok`	`in the originate command you can do Variable: DTMFTOPASS=71049,OTHERDTMFTOPASS=2490`
`20:27.41`	`citywok`	`look up the help for the originate ocmmand and it will give you the exact syntax in the event what i typed isn't 100% correct`
`20:27.49`	`cityLights`	`thanks`
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`20:29.31`	`bklang`	`Can anyone tell me the minimum Linux kernel version for Dahdi? Will recent versions of Dahdi run on a 2.4-series kernel?`
`20:30.05`	`Tim_Toady`	`dahdi requires 2.6`
`20:30.33`	`bklang`	`Thanks`
`20:33.44`	`citrus2`	`does anyone have any experiance using ss7 over an t1/isdn line?`
`20:38.25`	`Katty`	`starving.`
`20:38.33`	`carrar`	`m/f00d`
`20:38.43`	`Katty`	`carrar: mmmmcrackers.`
`20:38.55`	`carrar`	`I had a meat sandwich`
`20:39.15`	`carrar`	`sliced ham, turkey and chicken`
`20:39.49`	`Katty`	`that doesn't sound very good.`
`20:39.50`	`carrar`	`and then made venti espresso latte with hazzlenut`
`20:39.54`	`carrar`	`ICED!`
`20:39.59`	`carrar`	`Oh it was good`
`20:40.00`	`Katty`	`now that sounds good.`
`20:40.10`	`carrar`	`It had spinach on it too`
`20:40.22`	`Katty`	`wouldn't you rather have a yummy bean and cheese burrito?`
`20:40.25`	`carrar`	`mayo, dijian mustard (sp)`
`20:40.35`	`Katty`	`dijon`
`20:40.36`	`carrar`	`and some horserash stuff`
`20:40.43`	`carrar`	`Wife eats Nato`
`20:40.43`	`Katty`	`horseradish`
`20:40.48`	`carrar`	`and it comes with this spicy stuff`
`20:40.52`	`carrar`	`I put that on too`
`20:40.58`	`Katty`	`never heard of it.`
`20:41.04`	`carrar`	`nato?`
`20:41.09`	`carrar`	`stay far clear of nato :)`
`20:41.12`	`Katty`	`k`
`20:41.16`	`Katty`	`what's nato?`
`20:41.24`	`carrar`	`rotting soy beans`
`20:41.28`	`Katty`	`eww.`
`20:41.40`	`carrar`	`stinks like the worst smelling feet`
`20:41.52`	`carrar`	`and it's all very sticky beans`
`20:42.04`	`carrar`	`horrid smell`
`20:42.13`	`carrar`	`tast ok`
`20:42.14`	`carrar`	`but`
`20:42.15`	`carrar`	`why`
`20:42.19`	`Katty`	`refried beans are win.`
`20:42.29`	`carrar`	`yeah totally different`
`20:42.45`	`carrar`	`It's a crazy Japanese thing`
`20:42.51`	`Katty`	`ohah`
`20:42.52`	`Katty`	`i see.`
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`20:47.26`	`Katty`	`carrar: take these crackers away from me`
`20:47.29`	`Katty`	`carrar: and hide them`
`20:48.46`	`carrar`	`smash them`
`20:48.58`	`carrar`	`then THROW them up in the AIR`
`20:49.19`	`carrar`	`let them be free`
`20:49.52`	`carrar`	`flying crackers all the way`
`20:49.56`	`carrar`	`across the sky`
`20:50.14`	`Katty`	`i hid them from myself.`
`20:50.24`	`carrar`	`heh`
`20:50.46`	`carrar`	`What kind of crackers?`
`20:50.49`	`carrar`	`PICS!!!`
`20:51.28`	`Katty`	`ritz.`
`20:51.44`	`tzanger`	`I have a craving for triscut`
`20:51.46`	`carrar`	`ah yes, those are a problematic cracker`
`20:51.52`	`Katty`	`tzanger: those are also lovely.`
`20:51.56`	`Katty`	`but let's not talk about crackers.`
`20:52.04`	`tzanger`	`what shall we discuss?`
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`20:52.43`	`Katty`	`your mom.`
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`20:53.32`	`schmidts`	`hello all`
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`20:54.50`	`Diffen2`	`Evning. In Asterisk 1.6 is it possible to see extension status even if a call is redirected to a cellphone using cfa or followme?`
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`20:56.11`	`WIMPy`	`Diffen2: Need more information.`
`20:56.23`	`tzanger`	`my mom?`
`20:56.27`	`tzanger`	`sure what would you like to know`
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`20:57.58`	`Knightfal`	`Does anyone know why MOH would sound choppy but if we play the same file with Playback() it sounds fine. The calls are coming in TDM then as a sip trunk over an MPLS circuit. Another note the in conversation audio is fine as well.`
`20:57.59`	`Diffen2`	`wimpy well if i call your extension and you are call forward always to you cellphone. will you extension be set to busy when we are talking or will it be set as not busy as it is in 1.4.`
`20:58.35`	`WIMPy`	`It it IS not busy.`
`20:58.45`	`Diffen2`	`wimpy ok too bad`
`20:58.52`	`WIMPy`	`And it's usually called CFU(nconditional).`
`20:59.23`	`WIMPy`	`But depending on your setup you might be able to see when the forwarded call ends.`
`21:00.30`	`Diffen2`	`Ok since there are a number of applications that can show extension status it would be nice to see if a user are on the phone`
`21:00.42`	`Diffen2`	`even if it has been forwarded.`
`21:01.01`	`WIMPy`	`It's no longer that extension then.`
`21:01.07`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`??`
`21:02.12`	`Diffen2`	`true wimpy but the call are directed from that extension and it would be lovely if for example an operator would be able to see that`
`21:08.20`	`WIMPy`	`Depending on the te technology used, you should in most cases be able to track the calls via AMI.`
`21:08.25`	`WIMPy`	`-te`
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`21:10.20`	`Diffen2`	`Wimpy ok so its doable, i just have to find an application that can handle that. I have tried iSymphony and it doesnt show that information.`
`21:10.23`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`or mod your dialpan to check a few extra vars`
`21:11.41`	`Diffen2`	`tkD-fender hmm how do you mean?`
`21:13.20`	`pabelanger`	`Does multicast RTP exist in 1.6.2?`
`21:13.53`	`pabelanger`	`specifically app_rtppage`
`21:16.36`	`leifmadsen`	`pabelanger: uhh... I think it does...`
`21:17.59`	`leifmadsen`	`pabelanger: checking though'`
`21:18.27`	`pabelanger`	`leifmadsen: Ya, I don't believe so.... 1.8`
`21:18.33`	`pabelanger`	`http://svnview.digium.com/svn/asterisk?revision=203227&view=revision`
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`21:18.44`	`leifmadsen`	`pabelanger: yep`
`21:18.50`	`leifmadsen`	`pabelanger: didn't make 1.6.2 I guess`
`21:19.24`	`pabelanger`	`yar`
`21:19.55`	`leifmadsen`	`I am hungry`
`21:31.00`	`Katty`	`hi leif`
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`21:38.08`	`Katty`	`HI LEIF`
`21:39.19`	`Katty`	`Naikrovek: so i solved half the problem with the inability to do pushups`
`21:39.48`	`Katty`	`Naikrovek: the triceps are coming along just fine, but the pectorial muscles apparently are too weak to do much`
`21:40.39`	`beardy`	`I'm sure we're now many wondering how?`
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`21:41.55`	`Katty`	`hi bmoraca`
`21:42.54`	`bmoraca_work`	`hi`
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`21:43.27`	`rman`	`hi everyone, just quick question: is there any book/howto/manual about version 1.6 (not 1.4) ?`
`21:45.04`	`Katty`	`hmm`
`21:45.07`	`Katty`	`infobot: thebook?`
`21:45.07`	`infobot`	`thebook is probably Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf --- HTML at http://astbook.asteriskdocs.org`
`21:45.17`	`Katty`	`rman: not sure of the version on the pdf, go have a look see tho`
`21:45.22`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`rman: "howto" is hardly different`
`21:45.36`	`Katty`	`Naikrovek: know of anything basic to help build up those pectorial muscles?`
`21:45.38`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`rman: And there are other books (non free) that have a lot more 1.6 speciric bits`
`21:45.41`	`Katty`	`[TK]D-Fender: or you.`
`21:45.47`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Katty: pushups`
`21:45.52`	`Katty`	`sighs`
`21:46.04`	`rman`	`i can't find any, all sems to be 1.4 related`
`21:46.05`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Katty: no equipment needed.`
`21:46.06`	`Katty`	`[TK]D-Fender: pre-pushup`
`21:46.14`	`Katty`	`[TK]D-Fender: i can only do like...3 regular, and 7 girly`
`21:46.28`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Katty: then you need to do more. and often`
`21:46.47`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Katty: At the peak in my martial arts class we hit over 300 in 1.5 hour class`
`21:46.56`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Katty: and that was MIXED with our training`
`21:47.05`	`Katty`	`[TK]D-Fender: that's nice, but you're also a male.`
`21:47.25`	`Katty`	`[TK]D-Fender: but i suppose i could do girly pushups every day`
`21:47.32`	`plundra`	`Pretty sure 300 pushups at once isn't something ALL males do... :-P`
`21:47.40`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Katty: Yes, but understand that it was murderous, and got a w2orkout every time...`
`21:47.51`	`Katty`	`plundra: all males that want to, for the most part, can`
`21:47.57`	`Katty`	`plundra: just takes awhile`
`21:47.59`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Katty: just work at them. REALLY work. There isn't a short-cut`
`21:48.23`	`Katty`	`[TK]D-Fender: no i fully expect to be jello when done`
`21:48.25`	`Katty`	`[TK]D-Fender: and shaking`
`21:48.38`	`Katty`	`[TK]D-Fender: but it's frustrating that i can't even hit 15`
`21:48.41`	`Qwell`	`jello is a bad thing to be after working out`
`21:48.46`	`Qwell`	`is jello`
`21:48.53`	`Katty`	`Qwell: omnomnom`
`21:49.43`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Katty: feel free to consdier your room for improvement. Let that be your exercise and your metric.`
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`21:56.49`	`citywok`	`With * email option turned on and save emails turned off, i'm assuming if for some reason the email doesn't get delivered you'r just toast?`
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`22:20.41`	`sol`	`if girls do too many pushups`
`22:20.44`	`sol`	`their breasts turn into pex.`
`22:21.06`	`sol`	`also, pecs sometimes.`
`22:23.05`	`sol`	`those kinds of women are equally intimidating to men`
`22:23.08`	`sol`	`also, equally attractive.`
`22:23.17`	`sol`	`(as other men)`
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`22:41.33`	`dshap`	`I have an Asterisk box that's connected to the internet and is registered to a SIP trunking provider for making calls to the PSTN. Does anyone have any idea how I might be able to submit "GSM Requests" through Asterisk? If you have a mobile phone on the GSM network, you can dial special codes which get submitted somewhere and then some information comes back. Is there any way to submit these requests without the mobile phone itself?`
`22:44.31`	`Qwell`	`requests such as?`
`22:48.53`	`Kobaz`	`booty calls perhaps`
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`22:49.12`	`Qwell`	`parses and reparses the question`
`22:49.33`	`Qwell`	`Kobaz: I can't disprove your theory.`
`22:50.06`	`Kobaz`	`hah`
`22:50.53`	`Kobaz`	`dshap: any further details on these "gsm requests?`
`22:50.56`	`p3nguin`	`Alright, qwell, the game used to be fun when you did it to the first 100 people... now stop pretending like you don't know what GSM requests are and tell the guy how to submit them.`
`22:51.27`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dshap: How do you make "GSM requests" from a regular analog phone?`
`22:51.30`	`beardy`	`They are requests such as account balance, if on pre-paid card, for instance.`
`22:51.41`	`Qwell`	`beardy: So, your providers account webpage?`
`22:51.56`	`Qwell`	`(I was fishing)`
`22:52.22`	`dshap`	`Kobaz: hm not really. basically i'm trying to build this phone-powered service and it requires that i have the voicemail backdoor number of the user. instead of asking a relatively non-tech-savvy user to dial the code on their phone and retrieve the number, i'd like to send the request on their behalf (using the caller ID field) and get the number for them`
`22:52.41`	`dshap`	`[TK]D-Fender: don't know of a way - i just know how to do it from a GSM mobile phone`
`22:52.48`	`Qwell`	`dshap: No, there's no way for you to do that.`
`22:52.59`	`dshap`	`Qwell: darn`
`22:53.11`	`Qwell`	`dshap: Look at how google voice does it. They just say "Dial this. Done."`
`22:53.31`	`Qwell`	`(though, I think their instructions actually change their voicemail, which is probably not what you want.)`
`22:53.48`	`beardy`	`There's always a way. But it'd be very phone model specific.`
`22:53.59`	`dshap`	`Qwell: I'm trying to figure out how GotVoice (www.gotvoice.com) is able to pull of their "Silent Delivery" service (http://www.gotvoice.com/silent_delivery.php)`
`22:54.21`	`Qwell`	`Easy.`
`22:54.23`	`dshap`	`they used to have a demo up there (not anymore), you could put in a phone number for any mobile carrier and they'd be able to deliver a voicemail to your voice mailbox without calling your phone`
`22:54.43`	`dshap`	`and i'm pretty sure they weren't making 2 simultaneous calls (like SlyDial presumably does)`
`22:54.46`	`Qwell`	`they take advantage of a flaw in many providers voicemail systems (which, mind you, isn't legal), and dial them with their own number.`
`22:55.05`	`dshap`	`wait, what? what's not legal`
`22:55.15`	`Qwell`	`Making a call with a number you do not own.`
`22:55.22`	`Qwell`	`rephrase:`
`22:55.24`	`dshap`	`caller ID spoofing`
`22:55.27`	`Qwell`	`yes/`
`22:55.38`	`dshap`	`what is the flaw in the voicemail system?`
`22:55.56`	`dshap`	`i'm intrigued`
`22:56.03`	`Qwell`	`that it thinks if it receives a call from a subscribers phone number as the callerid, that it's the caller calling from his phone.`
`22:56.06`	`p3nguin`	`Spoofing's legality is open to interpretation.`
`22:56.09`	`Qwell`	`dshap: got a cellphone handy?`
`22:56.14`	`Kobaz`	`hehe`
`22:56.18`	`Qwell`	`call your phone, from your phone.`
`22:56.36`	`Kobaz`	`if you have voicemail security turned off... you will immediatly enter your voicemail`
`22:56.41`	`Qwell`	`quite`
`22:56.56`	`Qwell`	`though looking at this, it may not actually use that method`
`22:57.09`	`p3nguin`	`The newest act says that you cannot spoof with the intent to commit fraud by providing a number which is not yours for the purpose of withholding your real identity.`
`22:57.22`	`Qwell`	`maybe though. more likely, it probably has a list of numbers for common providers`
`22:57.24`	`dshap`	`Qwell: just called my own phone and got a voicemail IVR, didn't hear an option to deliver a voicemail`
`22:57.37`	`Qwell`	`dshap: there is one if you don't log in`
`22:57.40`	`Qwell`	`usually O.o`
`22:57.54`	`beardy`	`In the US, for some provider.`
`22:57.55`	`dshap`	`i didn't log in`
`22:58.05`	`dshap`	`although i didn't need to be logged in`
`22:58.23`	`dshap`	`it said press 1 to listen to messages, press X to...other options`
`22:58.23`	`p3nguin`	`If you have rights to a number, I don't see a problem with using it as caller ID on another phone, e.g., my cell phone number as CID on my home phone system.`
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`22:58.33`	`Qwell`	`p3nguin: no, that's perfectly fine`
`22:58.57`	`Qwell`	`dshap: Then your voicemail is insecure. :)`
`22:59.01`	`Qwell`	`Set a password. Now.`
`22:59.08`	`p3nguin`	`But using kobaz's number on my phone system to call qwell because I don't want qwell to know I am calling... that's illegal.`
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`22:59.17`	`dshap`	`Qwell: wait, so you think that if i had a voicemail password enabled, GotVoice wouldn't be able to silent-deliver me messages?`
`22:59.25`	`Qwell`	`no, it still would`
`22:59.28`	`dshap`	`how`
`22:59.40`	`Qwell`	`just would :p`
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`23:00.05`	`dshap`	`i'm lost here...i thought you suggested that GotVoice is calling my own number, FROM my own number, and is then somehow able to deliver a voicemail in my voice mailbox without calling my phone`
`23:00.23`	`dshap`	`but i'm still stumped on how they'd be able to do that :(`
`23:00.31`	`Qwell`	`yes, if it's using that method, it should still be able to :p`
`23:00.48`	`schmidts`	`in austria this wouldnt be illegal if you own the other number and gave your ok to this`
`23:00.57`	`schmidts`	`atleast with a pstn number not a mobil one ;)`
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`23:01.23`	`dshap`	`Qwell: you're saying you think there's some option in the menu (that you can access WITHOUT a password, all the time), to deliver a voicemail message?`
`23:01.38`	`Qwell`	`on t-mobile, yes.`
`23:01.57`	`p3nguin`	`If I want to leave voicemail for someone silently, I usually call my own voicemail and wait on it to say "if you've entered the wrong mailbox number, re-enter the mailbox number now," then put in the actual one I wanted to call.`
`23:02.05`	`Qwell`	`exactly.`
`23:02.24`	`dshap`	`that only works if the person you're trying to leave a voicemail for has their voice mailbox on your regional voicemail system`
`23:02.30`	`dshap`	`there are hundreds of systems for each carrier`
`23:02.52`	`dshap`	`wait a minute i just got an idea !`
`23:03.14`	`dshap`	`maybe if GotVoice calls my number (from my number), they redirected to the voicemail system`
`23:03.26`	`dshap`	`they can somehow detect (with the headers?) where they're redirected to`
`23:03.30`	`dshap`	`and that's the backdoor number they call`
`23:03.33`	`dshap`	`(from a different number)`
`23:03.37`	`Qwell`	`nah`
`23:03.40`	`dshap`	`which lets them deliver messages?`
`23:03.44`	`dshap`	`wait no`
`23:03.45`	`dshap`	`=\`
`23:03.57`	`schmidts`	`iam not sure about t-mobile how the made it in usa but AFAIK you could also dial a 22 between the prefix and the number to directly enter the voicemail`
`23:04.21`	`dshap`	`schmidts: in the US?`
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`23:04.57`	`schmidts`	`as i said iam not sure ;)`
`23:05.44`	`dshap`	`Qwell: if you can help me out here i'd be forever grateful. i've been trying to figure this out forever`
`23:05.50`	`schmidts`	`in austria t-mobile just has the prefix 0676 followed by a 7 digit number and if you dial 067622xxxxxxx you will get directly to the voicemail of this number, but only to leave a message not the option menu`
`23:06.10`	`dshap`	`Qwell: GotVoice definitely was able to silently deliver voicemails to people on verizon, at&t, sprint, and t-mobile (i tested all of them). i've got to figure out how they're doing it`
`23:06.31`	`dshap`	`schmidts: if there was an equivalent in the US, i'd be set, but i don't think there is :(`
`23:07.02`	`schmidts`	`does t-mobile have a country wide prefix or not?`
`23:08.21`	`dshap`	`schmidts: i dont know`
`23:08.31`	`dshap`	`haven't been able to find anything on google that suggests they do`
`23:10.13`	`schmidts`	`in germany 13 is the code to get directly to the mailbox but i didnt find it for us`
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`23:14.29`	`dshap`	`Qwell: don't think they're doing the call-your-own-number trick :( it doesnt always work`
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`23:56.41`	`rift0r`	`Can someone help me out, I have 1.4.x installed on a debian box and whenever I try to dial out via my sip trunk it tries to go out via a zap trunk which I dont have`
`23:57.00`	`rift0r`	`internal calls work fine, and I have no zap trunk defined in sip.conf or extensions.conf`
`23:57.36`	`rift0r`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:57.42`	`rift0r`	`that's the error I get`
`23:58.05`	`rift0r`	`and when it dials out it tries to go to "Zap/g2/+number"`

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