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| 00:41.25 | knarfly | how can I add a 1 to #{EXTEN} |
| 00:42.08 | knarfly | how can I add a 1 to ${EXTEN} so that 2123432233 equals 12123432233 |
| 00:43.39 | pabelanger | 1${EXTEN} |
| 00:43.56 | knarfly | that ez huh? |
| 00:44.30 | pabelanger | ~book |
| 00:44.31 | infobot | [~book] Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF at http://www.asteriskdocs.org --- HTML at http://astbook.asteriskdocs.org or see ~buybook |
| 00:44.41 | pabelanger | knarfly: ^^^ |
| 00:45.02 | knarfly | got a copy of it open now |
| 00:48.21 | knarfly | OK is there a method to dial the right most 10 characters in EXTEN...what I want is to add a "1" to each number dialed but then only dial 10 digits. This way if the user forgets to put the "1" in, the number will get dialed correctly |
| 00:49.03 | knarfly | excuse me 11 digits |
| 00:49.26 | p3nguin | How about create two extens like a normal person. |
| 00:50.11 | knarfly | well I'm not a normal person...and my VOIP provider wants a "1" on any number it gets |
| 00:50.21 | p3nguin | _NXXNXXXXXX,1,Dial(SIP/peer/1${EXTEN}) |
| 00:50.27 | p3nguin | _1NXXNXXXXXX,1,Dial(SIP/peer/${EXTEN}) |
| 00:50.32 | p3nguin | problem solved. |
| 00:51.02 | knarfly | I see said the blind man! |
| 00:51.35 | p3nguin | no 1, add it; with one, dial as-is |
| 00:51.46 | p3nguin | err, with 1, rather. |
| 00:52.04 | knarfly | I invented the number 1 |
| 00:55.37 | p3nguin | Also, create an exten for local numbers (in your area code)... |
| 00:55.53 | p3nguin | _NXXXXXX,1,Dial(SIP/peer/1212${EXTEN}) |
| 00:56.06 | sawgood | Hi: is there a way to transfer a call straight to voicemail without ringin the phone? |
| 00:56.13 | p3nguin | yes |
| 00:56.48 | p3nguin | On my system, it requires a blind transfer to 9XXX, where XXX is the person's normal extension number. |
| 00:57.03 | p3nguin | Yours will probably be different, since I didn't write your dialplan. |
| 00:57.25 | sawgood | I think I can do that in my dialplan ... |
| 00:57.26 | sawgood | thanks! |
| 00:57.54 | sawgood | Also, do you know if SwitchVOX in general has a GUI based front end (for example with SMB 4.5 version) |
| 00:58.30 | p3nguin | something like: exten => _9XXX,1,VoiceMail(${EXTEN:1}@default,u) |
| 00:58.48 | sawgood | very nice! |
| 00:59.16 | sawgood | its coming together in my mind ... slowly, and I really appreicate your tips and help |
| 00:59.18 | p3nguin | This assumes that your normal extension number is the same as your mailbox number. |
| 01:00.05 | p3nguin | I do it that way for convenience. I would hate to have to remember a completely different number for a person's voicemail than his/her phone. |
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| 01:06.12 | knarfly | p3nguin: u da man...works like a champ...now it's alot more idiot-proof |
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| 01:24.07 | ChannelZ | The PAP2T is basically 2 FXS right? |
| 01:26.10 | Dandan | yez sir |
| 01:26.24 | Dandan | 2x sip to 2x fxs |
| 01:29.14 | knarfly | hope so I got one on the way ans it should be here on Tuesday |
| 01:30.04 | knarfly | going to hook up my cordless phones to it and let my wife call her sisters in Rio until she pukes |
| 01:30.43 | Dandan | lol |
| 01:31.39 | Dandan | I got two-line panasonic and one goes to vonage, the second to asterisk, hooked up to voipdiscount |
| 01:31.49 | knarfly | at only $ 0.013 per minute she can talk till she drops |
| 01:31.54 | Dandan | which lets my WIFE :> call her parents in Europe as much as she wants :> |
| 01:32.10 | Dandan | Line 1 - Vonage, Line 2 - asterisk |
| 01:32.15 | p3nguin | I still never got that PAP2T to register. No one seemed to know what was wrong. http://pastebin.com/bbUXtpea |
| 01:32.26 | Dandan | + I hooked it up with ipkall and free asterisk fax module :) |
| 01:32.54 | knarfly | yes. I got burned in the beginning, my wife doesn't speak English that well and got confused...called her sisters on my PSTN line and ran up $1200 bill in no time... |
| 01:32.58 | Dandan | which does fax auto recognition :> |
| 01:33.12 | Dandan | p3nguin: it is very simple to get it to register |
| 01:33.22 | Dandan | i use even srv records for my domain |
| 01:33.22 | p3nguin | shakes his head |
| 01:33.49 | Dandan | nods - he ended up with $900 cell phone bill once :-/ |
| 01:34.12 | p3nguin | $1200 phone bill!?!? Good grief! |
| 01:34.32 | Dandan | p3nguin: what is not working with the config? |
| 01:34.41 | knarfly | says my wife and I keep fighting about sex and money... I'm telling you she charges me too much ! |
| 01:34.57 | Dandan | refuses to comment :-D |
| 01:35.31 | p3nguin | Have a look at the debug. The device wants to register, but, for some reason, can't/won't/doesn't. The error message on the device says that it cannot connect to the login server. |
| 01:35.46 | Dandan | show me some error msg |
| 01:35.58 | Dandan | I can show you config screen shots |
| 01:36.02 | p3nguin | http://pastebin.com/bbUXtpea <-- sip debug |
| 01:36.18 | Dandan | can you register to the same extension with a softphone? |
| 01:36.26 | p3nguin | Extensions can't register. |
| 01:36.32 | Dandan | blah |
| 01:36.44 | p3nguin | BLAH! |
| 01:36.44 | Dandan | you know what I mean |
| 01:36.45 | Dandan | :P |
| 01:37.52 | p3nguin | It's certainly a problem with the device. The guy was trying to connect direct to VoIP.ms and it was telling him that it can't connect to login server. I set up a peer on my box and had him switch the proxy address over. Same results. |
| 01:38.13 | p3nguin | Well, either the device or the router between the device and the rest of the world. |
| 01:38.19 | Dandan | try upgrading the FW |
| 01:38.25 | p3nguin | He's going to do that tomorrow. |
| 01:38.36 | Dandan | it takes 2 minutes |
| 01:38.39 | Dandan | you can do it yourself |
| 01:38.42 | p3nguin | It's at version 3.1.15(LS) right now. |
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| 01:39.10 | Dandan | lemmie see |
| 01:39.16 | Dandan | Firmware Version: 3.1.23(LS) |
| 01:39.21 | p3nguin | I'll have to get him to try a soft phone from that same LAN, too. |
| 01:39.34 | Dandan | ah, right right |
| 01:40.57 | p3nguin | I'd be surprised if my peer definition was at fault. http://pastebin.com/8Bbdq1CS |
| 01:42.39 | p3nguin | After he did a factory reset on the device, it no longer had a dial tone, so testing was put on hold until tomorrow when he can upgrade it. |
| 01:43.29 | Dandan | p3nguin: http://pastebin.com/aDmFEEgf |
| 01:43.32 | Dandan | mine is below |
| 01:45.20 | p3nguin | I tried using type=friend along with setting a username, but that didn't help anything. The debug looked the same. |
| 01:45.56 | Dandan | then I can only show you sshots of the config |
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| 06:17.14 | rsp2k | Iḿ trying to read a string of 15-25 dtmf digits. asterisk seems to choke ok get data. I eventually reads all the digits, but it takes longer than expected to process all the digits at once. if I only send it 4 digits it returns very quicky. |
| 06:18.50 | ChannelZ | examples |
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| 07:31.36 | owh | This might sound absurd, but bear with me. LAN with an existing CCME installation, still under contract for another 2 years. Unhappy with support, too expensive to break contract. Need to implement IVR, quote includes stupid hardware costs for CISCO IVR card(s) and software. Can I configure an Asterisk box to sit on the LAN and pretend to be a CISCO phone and implement an IVR using that? |
| 07:33.33 | ChannelZ | speaking their protocol? |
| 07:33.44 | owh | Yup |
| 07:33.53 | owh | No changes to the CCME. |
| 07:35.04 | owh | So, it means configuring Asterisk as an "sccp phone". |
| 07:42.45 | owh | I've contemplated ripping out the CCME, but that means that we'd be paying for an unused service and likely there are penalty clauses for dropping below a certain call volume. |
| 07:45.51 | owh | Is what I'm asking understandable? And then the next question is, possible? |
| 07:46.14 | ChannelZ | yes and I have no idea |
| 07:46.48 | ChannelZ | there are a couple of skinny drivers for asterisk that at least from what I've observed from other people here either work good or very poorly. |
| 07:47.04 | ChannelZ | Is Cisco using SCCP vanilla or is it some bastardized version of their own? |
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| 07:52.18 | owh | Starting at the end, dunno. I suspect it's what ever comes out of the box, since the provider is not that smart. The only asterisk sccp stuff I've seen allows asterisk to talk to cisco hardware phones using sccp. I don't know enough about the protocol to know if there is a difference between the "source" and the "target", but common sense tells me that it's likely that you cannot exchange the two :| I also just stumbled on a soft pho |
| 07:57.25 | owh | http://asterisk.inmte.com/viewtopic.php?t=18313 |
| 07:57.29 | owh | :( |
| 08:00.06 | ChannelZ | bummer |
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| 08:01.36 | owh | nods |
| 08:02.15 | owh | In 2004 someone said it would be pretty simple to use sccp_chan as a reference to create a client - perhaps it wasn't quite that simple :) |
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| 09:42.06 | k-man | i'm having difficulting registering with my voip provider |
| 09:42.22 | k-man | it keeps timing out |
| 09:43.36 | k-man | [Jun 5 19:35:11] NOTICE[6682]: chan_sip.c:11500 sip_reg_timeout: -- Registration for '0xxxxxx@sip01.mynetfone.com.au@sip01.mynetfone.com.au' timed out, trying again (Attempt #1) |
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| 09:43.48 | k-man | any ideas how to resolve why its timing out? |
| 09:44.01 | mianos | lemme check mine |
| 09:44.12 | mianos | may be mynetphone |
| 09:44.52 | Gido-E | k-man what is the problem? |
| 09:45.03 | mianos | sip01.mynetfone.com.au:5060 N 0XXXX 105 Registered Sat, 05 Jun 2010 19:42:23 |
| 09:45.08 | mianos | they seem to be up |
| 09:46.07 | k-man | i can ping the host from my asterisk box no problem |
| 09:46.27 | k-man | mianos: you using mynetfone? |
| 09:46.27 | mianos | port 5060 open? |
| 09:46.32 | mianos | k-man yes |
| 09:46.44 | mianos | asterisk 1.2 and now moved to 1.6 |
| 09:47.11 | k-man | should i be able to telnet to port 5060 on sip01.my... |
| 09:47.11 | Nugget | telnet is eeeeeeevil! |
| 09:47.21 | k-man | ? |
| 09:47.26 | k-man | or is it upd? |
| 09:47.27 | mianos | k-man, it's UDP |
| 09:47.35 | k-man | how to test if the port is open then? |
| 09:47.41 | mianos | tried tcpdump? |
| 09:47.46 | k-man | no |
| 09:48.25 | k-man | yes, i wonder if the port is the problem?.... installing tcpdump right now |
| 09:48.47 | k-man | mianos: i don't suppose you could show me a sanitized version of your sip.conf? |
| 09:49.35 | k-man | how do i use tcpdump to check port 5060? |
| 09:49.42 | mianos | tcpdump -v -i ppp0 "port 5060" |
| 09:50.53 | Gido-E | wireshark is a better tool... |
| 09:51.40 | k-man | ok, well tcpdump is dumping stuff.... no idea how to tell what it means really |
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| 09:52.42 | mianos | make sure there are replies |
| 09:53.53 | k-man | mianos: ah... no replies that i could see |
| 09:54.22 | mianos | so maybe the fw is blocking the traffic |
| 09:54.31 | k-man | ill check that |
| 09:54.32 | k-man | thanks |
| 09:55.02 | mianos | .. REGISTER sip:sip01.mynetfone.com.au SIP/2.0 |
| 09:55.44 | mianos | SIP/2.0 200 OK |
| 09:56.33 | k-man | mianos: what is that? |
| 09:56.39 | mianos | the reply |
| 09:56.45 | mianos | from tcpdump |
| 09:56.49 | k-man | oh, no replies coming in for me |
| 09:57.01 | k-man | just trying to work out how to check the openwrt firewall |
| 09:57.23 | k-man | do i need to set up a port forward for port 5060 |
| 09:57.24 | k-man | ? |
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| 10:01.21 | k-man | do i need to have port 5060 forwarded from the firewall to my asterisk server? |
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| 10:56.06 | mianos | yes |
| 10:56.20 | mianos | you need to forward them with a MASQ rule |
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| 11:33.39 | joobie | guys asterisk is sending a SIP OPTIONS method to one of my peers every X seconds |
| 11:33.56 | joobie | how can i configure this so that it uses specific information in the "FROM" headers, etc? |
| 11:42.40 | joobie | Guys i have quality=yes specified for a specific peer.. Every 60 seconds it sends a SIP OPTIONS to the peer ( http://pastebin.com/JNg9SwHj ) .. How can i configure the headers in there? I want to change it where it says from, etc |
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| 12:11.56 | rare1980_ | hi all. i ve a question... how can i check from asterisk cli that on which codec sip phone is registerd? |
| 12:40.27 | joobie | fark' |
| 12:40.33 | joobie | im fuken ripper |
| 12:40.36 | joobie | -r+D |
| 12:40.38 | k-man | i'm having this problem getting asterisk to register, it keeps timing out, i suspect somewhere along the way the reply to the register is not getting back to my asterisk box. fwiw, it has worked for months and recently stoped working |
| 12:40.48 | joobie | ripped |
| 12:41.00 | joobie | k-man, |
| 12:41.03 | joobie | sounds like u are fuked bro |
| 12:41.10 | joobie | u tried sip debug? |
| 12:41.20 | joobie | good start man |
| 12:41.49 | joobie | that "it's worked for months" bs i hear all the time man.. not so much with voip, but with noob tards that i support |
| 12:41.59 | k-man | joobie: yes, afaict the register commomand is sent but it never gets a reply so it times out |
| 12:42.03 | joobie | they think saying that offsets the problme to my end\ |
| 12:42.10 | k-man | no |
| 12:42.17 | joobie | bro im ripped |
| 12:42.25 | k-man | joobie: good for you |
| 12:42.26 | joobie | so scuse the french |
| 12:42.44 | joobie | passes the bong |
| 12:42.47 | joobie | so k-man |
| 12:42.50 | joobie | u do sip debug |
| 12:42.57 | joobie | and u see the register go out |
| 12:43.02 | joobie | but nothing coming back? |
| 12:43.32 | k-man | i think so |
| 12:43.46 | joobie | can u know so? |
| 12:43.56 | k-man | well, i do see the register from asterisk, but i don't see anything coming back |
| 12:44.16 | k-man | tcpdump confirms that too |
| 12:44.19 | joobie | oh |
| 12:44.25 | joobie | try |
| 12:44.31 | joobie | sip set debug peer <peer> |
| 12:44.44 | joobie | then you can know so, that no respnse is coming back from ur register |
| 12:45.05 | k-man | what's the <peer> bit? the hostname of my vsp? |
| 12:45.12 | joobie | ur peer name |
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| 12:45.22 | joobie | in sip.conf |
| 12:45.26 | joobie | [penis] |
| 12:45.30 | joobie | the bit in the [] |
| 12:45.31 | k-man | oh, ok |
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| 12:47.08 | joobie | u should see ur register |
| 12:47.10 | joobie | and a response |
| 12:47.19 | k-man | i don't see any responses |
| 12:47.21 | joobie | wats the response |
| 12:47.26 | joobie | paste wat u see |
| 12:47.31 | k-man | ok hang on |
| 12:47.40 | joobie | cos man the register should be handeles |
| 12:47.42 | joobie | handled |
| 12:47.48 | joobie | i mean i fu can connect to the sip server |
| 12:47.59 | joobie | u will get ur sync sync ack n all that jazz back |
| 12:48.03 | joobie | before the register |
| 12:48.10 | joobie | so ur getting traffic flow if ur sending the register |
| 12:48.17 | joobie | and then the register should get some jazz back |
| 12:48.25 | joobie | given it'sa sip server |
| 12:48.30 | joobie | and u are talken to it |
| 12:48.58 | joobie | duno of a server that just drops ur register request.. with no handled response unless ur shit is fuked up |
| 12:49.35 | k-man | just about to pastebin it one sec |
| 12:49.40 | joobie | sweet |
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| 12:49.54 | joobie | im gona grab more shiz |
| 12:50.00 | joobie | should be ok to help |
| 12:50.11 | joobie | brb |
| 12:50.26 | k-man | http://perl.nopaste.dk/p2081 |
| 12:52.10 | joobie | bro |
| 12:52.14 | joobie | ur from au? |
| 12:52.16 | joobie | me too :P |
| 12:52.18 | k-man | yeah |
| 12:52.20 | k-man | me too! |
| 12:53.17 | joobie | where u from |
| 12:53.30 | joobie | i just noticed the .au in your pastebin |
| 12:55.32 | k-man | sydney, you? |
| 12:55.35 | joobie | melb |
| 12:55.43 | joobie | sydney sucks bro |
| 12:55.46 | k-man | ah right, i love melb |
| 12:55.51 | joobie | all poofs up there |
| 12:55.51 | k-man | no, sydney is cool to |
| 12:55.52 | k-man | o |
| 12:55.53 | joobie | like up tight n shit |
| 12:56.00 | k-man | hehe |
| 12:56.09 | joobie | they aint frendly man |
| 12:56.14 | joobie | i was walkin on the warf |
| 12:56.16 | houms | Anyone using siptapi or anything similar for click2dial func. |
| 12:56.18 | joobie | near that v-max cinema |
| 12:56.35 | joobie | and peeps just had this unfreidnly look about em |
| 12:56.51 | joobie | anyway k-man |
| 12:57.01 | joobie | can you pastebin a tcpdump |
| 12:57.10 | joobie | of what happens during that regisrter |
| 12:57.21 | joobie | cos what it looks like is that your end is sending register's to the other end |
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| 12:57.26 | joobie | and the other end aint responding |
| 12:57.45 | joobie | my be like a routing issue or sumthen.. are u seeing shit in tcpdump from their end to u? |
| 12:57.58 | k-man | joobie: i'm glad you agree with that bit because that was my diagnosis too |
| 12:58.07 | k-man | hang on |
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| 12:58.39 | joobie | man keep in mind |
| 12:58.41 | joobie | im ripped\ |
| 12:58.48 | joobie | but it should be ok still |
| 12:59.20 | joobie | watching this vin deseil movie on tele |
| 12:59.24 | joobie | it's so much crap |
| 12:59.29 | k-man | do you think tcpdump -v 'port 5060' is good enough? |
| 12:59.49 | joobie | yer |
| 12:59.50 | k-man | or might that filter out something important |
| 12:59.53 | joobie | or sumtehn like |
| 12:59.53 | k-man | ok |
| 12:59.55 | k-man | hang on |
| 13:00.16 | joobie | tcpdump -i <int> -nnnn host 125.213.160.81 |
| 13:01.30 | k-man | what is <int>? |
| 13:01.37 | joobie | ur interface |
| 13:01.39 | joobie | like eth0 |
| 13:01.47 | k-man | and what is the host? |
| 13:01.50 | k-man | ok |
| 13:01.54 | joobie | that's where ur connecting |
| 13:01.58 | joobie | according to that tcpdump |
| 13:02.01 | joobie | i mean the asterisk dip |
| 13:02.02 | k-man | ok |
| 13:02.02 | joobie | up |
| 13:02.03 | joobie | dump |
| 13:02.04 | joobie | even |
| 13:02.05 | joobie | fuk |
| 13:02.07 | joobie | cant fuken type |
| 13:02.27 | joobie | man i bought a dining table on ebay |
| 13:02.33 | joobie | and the guys are in sydney |
| 13:02.37 | joobie | notting hill i thinik? |
| 13:02.44 | k-man | all outbound, no inbound |
| 13:02.47 | joobie | they wana charge fuken 180$ to deliver it to melb |
| 13:02.51 | joobie | expensive |
| 13:03.05 | k-man | notting hill? there is no notting hill in sydney that i know of... that's in london |
| 13:03.11 | joobie | eh |
| 13:03.12 | joobie | sec |
| 13:03.38 | k-man | do you need the paste of the tcpdump? or take my word for it, its all outbound? |
| 13:04.06 | joobie | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:04.06 | joobie | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:04.10 | joobie | neutral bay |
| 13:04.31 | k-man | oh, neutral bay |
| 13:04.32 | k-man | hehe |
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| 13:04.37 | joobie | i was a bit off |
| 13:04.40 | joobie | with notting hill |
| 13:04.42 | joobie | knew it started with n |
| 13:04.44 | k-man | yeah, that is in sydney |
| 13:04.51 | joobie | is it dodgy |
| 13:04.55 | houms | Siptapi or anything similar?anyone? |
| 13:04.56 | joobie | or safe to buy online |
| 13:05.07 | k-man | houms: not me, sorry |
| 13:05.13 | joobie | k-man, if ur seeing one way traffic man |
| 13:05.17 | joobie | it sounds lik ethe other end is fuked |
| 13:05.21 | joobie | i just remembered sip is udp |
| 13:05.24 | joobie | so sessionless |
| 13:05.25 | k-man | joobie: can be safe, can be dodgy, depends |
| 13:05.39 | k-man | joobie: correct, no sessions |
| 13:05.40 | joobie | so it may send the entire register without wanting a response prior to sending |
| 13:05.41 | joobie | yer |
| 13:05.44 | joobie | i was thinken tcp |
| 13:05.45 | joobie | trippen |
| 13:05.49 | joobie | so man |
| 13:05.56 | joobie | is it mynetfone |
| 13:05.57 | joobie | ur with |
| 13:05.57 | joobie | ? |
| 13:06.12 | k-man | yeah |
| 13:06.20 | joobie | sounds like they are wankers |
| 13:06.24 | k-man | yeah |
| 13:06.25 | joobie | is this for ur business |
| 13:06.27 | joobie | in sydney |
| 13:06.30 | joobie | or residential |
| 13:06.32 | k-man | no, home |
| 13:06.42 | joobie | ahh |
| 13:06.50 | k-man | why do you ask? |
| 13:06.50 | joobie | cos was gona try get u on my shizz if u are business |
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| 13:07.09 | k-man | on your shizz? |
| 13:07.19 | k-man | you run a vsp? |
| 13:07.40 | joobie | yer |
| 13:07.45 | joobie | but i tap into others |
| 13:07.49 | joobie | so kinda likea proxy / resller |
| 13:07.55 | k-man | oh i see |
| 13:08.10 | joobie | but we are unique |
| 13:08.17 | joobie | a few of us smoke weed |
| 13:08.21 | joobie | which makes the call quality better |
| 13:08.24 | joobie | more relaxed |
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| 13:08.49 | k-man | joobie: nice |
| 13:09.39 | k-man | ok, i have an idea, if i try and connect to a different vsp, i can determine if it's my end or my vps's end |
| 13:09.50 | joobie | bro |
| 13:09.58 | joobie | u kno where u specify |
| 13:10.05 | joobie | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:10.10 | joobie | or sip01.mynetfone.com.au |
| 13:10.16 | k-man | yes |
| 13:10.17 | joobie | change it to sip10.mynetfone.com.au |
| 13:10.19 | joobie | or |
| 13:10.25 | joobie | 125.213.160.82 |
| 13:10.37 | k-man | ok, is that a different server i guess |
| 13:10.43 | joobie | i duno bro |
| 13:10.45 | joobie | different ip |
| 13:10.45 | k-man | is that in the "register" line? |
| 13:10.50 | joobie | hopefully it's a functional server |
| 13:10.58 | joobie | yer\ |
| 13:11.01 | joobie | and in ur peer |
| 13:11.07 | k-man | ok, stand by |
| 13:11.12 | joobie | i duno bro i dont use those bus |
| 13:11.13 | joobie | bums |
| 13:11.16 | joobie | but if it works it wokrs |
| 13:11.20 | joobie | like worth a shot.. |
| 13:11.27 | joobie | and ur routing is ok yer? |
| 13:11.34 | joobie | it aint ur end that cant route to them properly ya? |
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| 13:14.17 | k-man | holy shit, i think that's it joobie |
| 13:14.38 | k-man | yeah, registered |
| 13:14.49 | k-man | ffs mystupidnetfone was broken |
| 13:14.57 | joobie | sweet |
| 13:15.05 | joobie | bums man |
| 13:15.13 | joobie | they must be a sydney isp |
| 13:15.22 | joobie | if it was melbourne based that shit wouldnt happen ;P |
| 13:15.43 | k-man | yeah, that must be it |
| 13:16.24 | k-man | well, i think that solved it joobie |
| 13:16.42 | joobie | cool man |
| 13:16.42 | k-man | all that fiddling around with my stupid config file, and the firewall for nothing |
| 13:17.01 | joobie | it coulda been ur firewall tho |
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| 13:17.04 | joobie | like stopping routing |
| 13:17.09 | joobie | but all good |
| 13:17.15 | joobie | they are wanks man |
| 13:17.23 | joobie | i dnsed 'sip01, 02,03,04' |
| 13:17.24 | joobie | right up to 10 |
| 13:17.29 | joobie | and they were all the same ip |
| 13:17.40 | joobie | wat a gay setup |
| 13:17.54 | k-man | hehe |
| 13:18.00 | k-man | yeah, stupid |
| 13:18.08 | k-man | thanks for your amazing brainwave |
| 13:18.20 | joobie | no worries man |
| 13:18.23 | joobie | so why are u with em tho |
| 13:18.25 | joobie | are they cheap? |
| 13:19.18 | k-man | yeah, they have a very good deal called the "whirlpool saver" $5/year for did, and no monthly rental, and pretty low call costs too |
| 13:19.37 | joobie | https://www.mynetfone.com.au/Residential/Home-Phone/Plans |
| 13:19.40 | joobie | cant see it there |
| 13:19.41 | joobie | ? |
| 13:19.42 | k-man | and they have been very reliable for me for a number of years, this is really the first problem i have had with them |
| 13:19.47 | k-man | hang on |
| 13:20.08 | k-man | you need the secret url https://www.mynetfone.com.au/whirlpool |
| 13:20.33 | k-man | it's an offer they only publicise to whirlpool forum readers |
| 13:20.59 | k-man | https://www.mynetfone.com.au/whirlpool/VoIP/Plans/WhirlpoolSaver-Plan |
| 13:22.26 | joobie | all ur a whirlpooler |
| 13:22.37 | joobie | i used to work with a guy who was one of the moderators for that site |
| 13:23.14 | k-man | cool |
| 13:23.20 | joobie | yer |
| 13:23.23 | joobie | tis not a bad site |
| 13:23.28 | joobie | man that plan |
| 13:23.34 | k-man | did you see the second url? thats the plan i'm on, i think its a pretty good deal no? |
| 13:23.42 | joobie | i guess $5 a year aint bad |
| 13:23.46 | joobie | if u dont make many calls |
| 13:23.53 | joobie | but there are some providers that are free |
| 13:23.55 | k-man | well for home we dont |
| 13:23.57 | joobie | like iinet |
| 13:24.02 | joobie | free local / national |
| 13:24.08 | joobie | just gotat go on their naked dsl plans |
| 13:24.20 | joobie | like ho wmuch do u pay for internet |
| 13:24.31 | k-man | yeah, whirlpool was free for did too but they said too many people just got dids and never used them so they started charging just $5 which i think is pretty fair |
| 13:24.53 | k-man | yeah, i'm with internode but their nodephone plan is a rip off |
| 13:25.53 | k-man | so i use mynetfone for voip |
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| 13:26.26 | k-man | at work, i use pennytel as they have per second billing for local calls, which for my work is better as our calls only average 2.5 minutes long |
| 13:27.09 | joobie | ahh |
| 13:27.18 | joobie | i use iinet @ home |
| 13:27.20 | joobie | free local national |
| 13:27.24 | joobie | and their dsl plans aint bad |
| 13:27.31 | joobie | i dont have a "bob" tho |
| 13:27.38 | joobie | u guys get that ad in sydney her? |
| 13:27.43 | joobie | -her +yer? |
| 13:28.05 | k-man | i have mythtv so i don't see adds |
| 13:28.12 | joobie | ahh |
| 13:28.16 | joobie | i tried myth man |
| 13:28.20 | joobie | i got a macmini and shit setup |
| 13:28.33 | joobie | but i got jibbed |
| 13:28.34 | k-man | yeah? a friend does myth on the macmini |
| 13:28.43 | joobie | my tv is shit |
| 13:28.47 | joobie | i got a 720p |
| 13:29.01 | joobie | if i use the dvi to hdmi convertor, i cant hear audio on the tv |
| 13:29.17 | k-man | oh that's crapola |
| 13:29.25 | joobie | the hdmi input wants audio on that hdmi channel only.. and the macmini doesnt have hdmi out |
| 13:29.26 | joobie | yer |
| 13:29.38 | joobie | if i had a seperate audio system it wouldnt amtter but fuk that |
| 13:29.40 | joobie | too expensive |
| 13:29.40 | k-man | oh that sucks |
| 13:29.56 | k-man | well, i'm still stuck with CRT telly |
| 13:30.01 | joobie | there's some nice features in myth tho |
| 13:30.05 | joobie | CRT? fuk |
| 13:30.14 | joobie | lcd/plazma is cheap these days man |
| 13:30.18 | k-man | brb |
| 13:30.18 | joobie | go to ALD?I |
| 13:30.19 | joobie | :P |
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| 13:33.23 | k-man | you got yours from aldi? |
| 13:33.29 | joobie | naa |
| 13:33.39 | k-man | i was offered a hitachi flat screen today for only $900 or so |
| 13:33.41 | joobie | i paid like 2500$ for mine |
| 13:33.42 | joobie | years ago |
| 13:33.47 | k-man | turned it down, don';t have enough cash right now |
| 13:33.47 | joobie | but aldi have cheap ones now |
| 13:33.52 | joobie | bound to be better than crt |
| 13:34.06 | joobie | i reacon u could score one for 500% |
| 13:34.13 | joobie | like a 42-48" |
| 13:34.29 | k-man | yeah |
| 13:35.58 | joobie | u fuked with the scrollign text |
| 13:35.58 | k-man | you should see the doco out there on connecting asterisk to mynetfone, its shocking |
| 13:35.59 | joobie | on myth |
| 13:36.06 | joobie | hehe |
| 13:36.07 | joobie | yer |
| 13:36.09 | joobie | i just downloaded i |
| 13:36.10 | joobie | t |
| 13:36.13 | k-man | what do you mean? |
| 13:36.15 | joobie | to see if they have anothe other servers |
| 13:36.19 | joobie | it's shit |
| 13:36.24 | k-man | oh your a good mand joobie |
| 13:36.32 | joobie | eheh |
| 13:37.39 | k-man | so whats the url of your business? it sounds interesting |
| 13:37.50 | k-man | are you making a living from voip? |
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| 13:39.00 | joobie | naa |
| 13:39.03 | joobie | i do it support |
| 13:39.07 | joobie | and consulting |
| 13:39.10 | joobie | voip is like s ide thing |
| 13:39.17 | joobie | we try to get our clients on |
| 13:39.22 | joobie | we dont have a page dedicated to voip |
| 13:39.22 | k-man | oh i see |
| 13:39.39 | joobie | Pm'ed u our homepage |
| 13:39.43 | joobie | but that's for the support / consulting |
| 13:41.56 | k-man | i use, for myself, the crm114 discriminator anti spam tools |
| 13:42.00 | k-man | ever tried that? |
| 13:43.45 | k-man | http://crm114.sourceforge.net/ |
| 13:45.07 | joobie | naa |
| 13:45.09 | joobie | never heard of it |
| 13:45.15 | joobie | work aite? |
| 13:45.25 | k-man | check it out, yeah, i think so |
| 13:45.36 | k-man | its bloody tricky to set up, but once its set up its good |
| 13:46.08 | k-man | interestingly, a friend used to use it, then he switched to google, and he says he gets quite a bit more spam now |
| 13:46.13 | k-man | and also more false positibes |
| 13:46.23 | joobie | is it just custom regex's tho? |
| 13:46.26 | k-man | i get maybe 1 false positive every 6 months |
| 13:46.27 | joobie | like u put ur own regex's in ? |
| 13:46.30 | joobie | nice |
| 13:46.35 | k-man | no, its a learning thing |
| 13:46.42 | k-man | bayes filters or similar |
| 13:47.04 | k-man | you train it when it makes a mistake |
| 13:47.35 | joobie | ahh |
| 13:47.49 | joobie | so how does it differ from spam assassin? |
| 13:47.54 | joobie | that has the bayes filter too |
| 13:48.38 | k-man | to be honest i'm not sure, but i think its the way the filter is implemented |
| 13:49.10 | k-man | its not just bayes, there are other similar techniques it uses that work better than bayes |
| 13:49.31 | joobie | ahh |
| 13:49.41 | joobie | thanks ma |
| 13:49.42 | joobie | n |
| 13:49.44 | joobie | ill bookmark it |
| 13:49.48 | joobie | we use spam assassin |
| 13:49.50 | joobie | and some custom rules |
| 13:49.59 | joobie | but we extended it to do more |
| 13:50.07 | joobie | like daily u can get asummary email of ur "questionable spam" |
| 13:50.08 | k-man | cool |
| 13:50.17 | joobie | few features lik ethat |
| 13:50.24 | k-man | i use sa for my staff at work |
| 13:50.33 | joobie | ahh |
| 13:50.49 | joobie | how do u manage false positives? |
| 13:51.12 | k-man | fals positives for my staff? |
| 13:51.21 | k-man | with SA? or crm114? |
| 13:51.29 | joobie | yer |
| 13:51.30 | joobie | both |
| 13:51.36 | joobie | like say u caputure a legit email |
| 13:51.38 | joobie | how do u handle that |
| 13:52.18 | k-man | well, with SA i don't filter the emails, just tag them as spam |
| 13:52.36 | k-man | the staff just delete stuff marked as spam or filter it into their own folders |
| 13:53.16 | k-man | with crm114 it happens so rarely i never check for it, i usually find out months later when im searching for something or someone says "why didn't you reply to this email" |
| 13:53.24 | k-man | at which point i find it and train it as ham |
| 13:54.04 | k-man | anyway, nice chatting to you and thanks heaps for your help in solving that problem with asterisk |
| 13:54.08 | k-man | i have to sleep now |
| 13:54.27 | k-man | night |
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| 14:01.25 | joobie | cool man |
| 14:01.32 | joobie | no worries, take it easy |
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| 14:19.14 | domi | i am looking for a video-phone app for windows. any tipps? ekiga seems to not support video on windows |
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| 14:23.44 | Baylink-workSat | Which Windows? |
| 14:26.26 | domi | Baylink-workSat: winxp |
| 14:26.52 | Baylink-workSat | Would netMeeting serve? I gather it will run on XP, if you copy it there |
| 14:27.16 | domi | should be sip, not h323 |
| 14:27.20 | Baylink-workSat | Ah |
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| 14:27.47 | Baylink-workSat | ISTR newer versions of Zoiper might do video, but we don't use it, so I wasn't paying much attention. |
| 14:28.04 | domi | hmm... can the asterisk convert/transcode between sip and h232? |
| 14:29.21 | Baylink-workSat | The video? |
| 14:29.34 | Baylink-workSat | or control plane? |
| 14:30.58 | domi | the video |
| 14:31.23 | domi | i have a sip-wlan-handset with video and want to call a softphone on a windows-pc |
| 14:31.38 | Baylink-workSat | You have a sip-wlan-handset?? :-) |
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| 14:31.53 | Baylink-workSat | (excuse me: "with video") |
| 14:31.59 | domi | yes ;) |
| 14:32.05 | Baylink-workSat | Model #?? :-) |
| 14:32.06 | domi | Phillips VP5500 |
| 14:32.25 | domi | works fine with my asterisk |
| 14:32.42 | Baylink-workSat | Cute |
| 14:32.44 | Baylink-workSat | Price? |
| 14:33.31 | domi | got it for 30 eur on marketplaats.nl |
| 14:33.50 | domi | pollin.de sold them for 10 eur or so |
| 14:33.53 | Baylink-workSat | Really??? |
| 14:33.59 | Baylink-workSat | Not, like, 300? |
| 14:34.15 | domi | per default the device is bundled to a non-existing provider |
| 14:34.22 | Baylink-workSat | Ah |
| 14:34.23 | domi | but its easy to hack |
| 14:34.36 | Baylink-workSat | Pointer? |
| 14:34.46 | Baylink-workSat | And do any of those sources have english pages? :-) |
| 14:35.04 | Baylink-workSat | In any event, to try to solve your problem, rather than mine... |
| 14:35.06 | domi | only a german site: http://www.mikrocontroller.net/articles/PHILIPS_VP5500_VoIP_Telefon |
| 14:35.41 | Baylink-workSat | My best friend speaks some German. And there's always google. I meant "do any of the sellers have english pages?" |
| 14:36.31 | domi | hm dunno, i think there won't be any official source yet |
| 14:36.38 | domi | just ebay or other marketing platforms |
| 14:36.46 | Baylink-workSat | I'll look around. Thanks |
| 14:36.48 | domi | like marketplaats.nl |
| 14:37.03 | domi | but dutch is evil ;) |
| 14:37.20 | Baylink-workSat | And in any event: you're not worried about SIP and H.323; each device will speak it's protocol to Asterisk, and it will either know how to deal or not. |
| 14:37.38 | Baylink-workSat | You're worried about whether * can transcode *the video codecs* the devices use |
| 14:38.06 | Baylink-workSat | I don't recall what H.323 usually has associated with it; these days I think it's H.264 |
| 14:38.13 | Baylink-workSat | On the SIP side, it's a tossup. |
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| 14:56.08 | domi | yeah, linphone (on windows) and the vp5500 will establish an videocall |
| 14:56.31 | domi | but only if i dial the vp5500 directly via ip, not over the asterisk |
| 14:56.48 | Baylink-workSat | Aha. |
| 14:57.42 | Baylink-workSat | That suggests that one end's negotiating to match the other because it *has* to on the direct call, but it's not being forced not to on the * mediated call. Recommend wiresharking the connection, and putting a deny in SIP conf for the thing you need to block. |
| 14:57.43 | Dandan | why when I dial out via adit channel bank I get no ringing tone, although the remote party rings? (asterisk, adit 600, new install)? |
| 14:57.47 | Baylink-workSat | domi |
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| 14:58.16 | Dandan | and when call connects there is no audio going any direction... |
| 14:58.39 | Dandan | I have a feeling there is a problem with ls/gs/ks? |
| 14:58.45 | Dandan | but I can't pinpoint |
| 14:58.54 | coppice | I guess the VP5500 might have been a bigger success if they'd ever bother to really market it |
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| 14:59.39 | Baylink-workSat | Maybe |
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| 15:05.51 | coppice | philips has a rather sad history with wireless phones of all types |
| 15:08.44 | domi | coppice: AFAIK it has only been sold through KPN.nl |
| 15:09.11 | coppice | domi: is it still available? its quite old |
| 15:10.40 | domi | no it isn't |
| 15:10.52 | domi | but its a nice handset with video |
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| 15:11.21 | domi | i got mine from marketplaats.nl and has to hack it to work with other providers than KPN |
| 15:13.33 | kmdm | Hi all - having problems with a TDM400P (FXO module) constantly showing "RED" in lsdahdi and "InAlarm: 1" when doing "*CLI> dahdi show channel 1" -- anyone any ideas? (I'm in the UK on BT) |
| 15:14.34 | Baylink-workSat | kmdm: I assume it's plugged into a span, and the smartjack/DSU doesn't show red? |
| 15:16.13 | kmdm | Baylink-workSat: yep - it's plugged into span 1 (with the green light lit), and this is 1.6.2 / 2.2.0.2 |
| 15:16.45 | Baylink-workSat | Try a different cable? You're sure your set to B8ZS/ESF, or whatever's standard there? Did this ever work? |
| 15:17.16 | kmdm | heh, it used to work with zaptel in my last property... which isn't too helpful, I know ;) |
| 15:17.21 | domi | omfg... videosupport=yes did it ;) |
| 15:17.37 | kmdm | Tried two different cables to plug it into the phone line now |
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| 15:17.47 | jaytee | FXO doesn't use B8ZS/ESF |
| 15:17.47 | Baylink-workSat | So it's never worked on the span it's physically plugged into now. |
| 15:18.02 | jaytee | FXO is analog |
| 15:18.02 | kmdm | Baylink-workSat: one other thing of note is if I run dahdi_monitor while making an incoming call, the RX volume moves |
| 15:18.04 | Baylink-workSat | Oh |
| 15:18.13 | Baylink-workSat | Sorry; missed the card type; that's analog? |
| 15:18.18 | kmdm | yep |
| 15:18.26 | Baylink-workSat | Then I'm completely out of my depth, non-US |
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| 16:03.44 | tzafrir_laptop | We knew Asterisk configs are strucctured. But here's a proof: |
| 16:03.47 | tzafrir_laptop | http://www.freeiris.org/astconfquerylanguage |
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| 16:19.23 | Kyosh | tzafrir: proof of what? |
| 16:20.26 | Baylink-workSat | Proof that Asterisk's config files are *sufficiently* structured to make it possible to put a SQL-looking library API atop them, I would guess, |
| 16:20.45 | Baylink-workSat | Wonder if any of the PBX projects are using that. |
| 16:20.51 | Baylink-workSat | Cause I would. |
| 16:21.16 | Baylink-workSat | Aw, crap. I may have to write a PBX now. |
| 16:21.20 | Kyosh | well its not a sql-looking library |
| 16:21.27 | Kyosh | it IS sql |
| 16:21.55 | Baylink-workSat | I'm sure it deviates from ANSI SQL *somewhere*... :-) |
| 16:22.22 | Kyosh | of course |
| 16:22.29 | Kyosh | much like microsoft's WMI does |
| 16:22.33 | Baylink-workSat | It is cool, though. |
| 16:23.35 | Kyosh | its just using a SQL engine and rather than specifying tables, its specifying files |
| 16:23.52 | Kyosh | very nice |
| 16:23.53 | Baylink-workSat | Yeah. |
| 16:24.20 | Kyosh | wish we could use that in a cmdline type option to get running info from ast |
| 16:24.28 | Baylink-workSat | Cause my hobby horse is SVNish control of the *PBX config*, which even FPBX3 apparently isn't going to do, and that sort of thing makes implementing it easier. |
| 16:24.31 | Kyosh | and make changes too |
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| 16:25.06 | Kyosh | svnish contorl of pbx config? |
| 16:25.12 | Baylink-workSat | Probably wouldn't be hard to extend that to being able to pull things out the AMI. |
| 16:25.13 | Baylink-workSat | Yes. |
| 16:25.26 | Baylink-workSat | "User bill added 25 extensions on 2-Jun-10" |
| 16:25.45 | Baylink-workSat | "User rob changed extension 2345's CNID to 123-345-4567 on 1-Jun-10" |
| 16:25.50 | Baylink-workSat | ANd a comment |
| 16:26.00 | Baylink-workSat | Bulk and comments are the 2 things I don't have |
| 16:26.01 | Baylink-workSat | ANd want |
| 16:26.42 | Kyosh | hmm |
| 16:26.53 | Kyosh | maintain total track n change |
| 16:27.00 | Kyosh | nice |
| 16:27.10 | Kyosh | finger pointing capabilities :-p |
| 16:27.16 | Baylink-workSat | Yup. |
| 16:27.19 | Kyosh | love it |
| 16:27.32 | Baylink-workSat | Critical when you have more than one maintainer. Very handy even with only one. |
| 16:27.47 | Kyosh | what interface? console or fpbx? |
| 16:27.51 | Baylink-workSat | FPBX 3 *could* do this, but the dev I talked to didn't sound like he cared. |
| 16:27.53 | Baylink-workSat | FPBX. |
| 16:28.05 | Baylink-workSat | You could in fact script things at that point, as well; always good. |
| 16:28.16 | Baylink-workSat | I want it all, and I want it now. |
| 16:28.18 | Kyosh | id sadly say that you'd have to take fpbx and shred it to make one of your own |
| 16:29.13 | Baylink-workSat | Exactly. Shame. Haven't got the time, or, honestly, motivation. Not a coder; I'm a designer/analyst; a lonely thing to be in FOSS. |
| 16:29.27 | Kyosh | i hear that |
| 16:29.27 | Baylink-workSat | Bad for FOSS, too; programmers who are *really good* analysts are very few and far between. |
| 16:29.41 | Baylink-workSat | Lots of great designers who can't code much. |
| 16:29.42 | Kyosh | sadly im not a php person |
| 16:30.27 | Kyosh | would love to be but with work and family, no time |
| 16:30.31 | Baylink-workSat | Yeah |
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| 16:57.51 | jblack | A good programmer is also a good analyst and designer. |
| 16:59.44 | p3nguin | I may be anal, but I'm no programmer. |
| 17:01.13 | Kyosh | would brag about being anal :-p |
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| 17:13.15 | Baylink-afk | jblack: In my experience, that's not necessarily true. |
| 17:13.47 | Baylink-afk | There are *lots* of excellent coders out there, who can turn a proper formal module spec into tight integratable code... but couldn't do the top level design to save their lives. |
| 17:14.10 | Baylink-afk | Analysis/design is an almost entirely separate skill, tickling different neurons. |
| 17:14.26 | Baylink-afk | Among other things: analysts have to be able to be nice to users. ;-) |
| 17:15.36 | p3nguin | baylink-worksat: I really wish you would learn how to not do that. |
| 17:15.48 | p3nguin | You were kicked out of here yesterday for it. |
| 17:16.10 | russellb | heh, what, the nick changes |
| 17:16.12 | russellb | ? |
| 17:16.13 | p3nguin | yes |
| 17:16.36 | p3nguin | http://sackheads.org/~bnaylor/spew/away_msgs.html |
| 17:16.39 | p3nguin | Read that or something. |
| 17:16.57 | Baylink-workSat | Excuse me? |
| 17:17.06 | p3nguin | No one really cares if you're away from keyboard or if you're at work on a Saturday. |
| 17:17.14 | Baylink-workSat | *You* don't really care. |
| 17:17.54 | Baylink-workSat | Be ye not overly annoying *nor too easily annoyed*. |
| 17:19.00 | p3nguin | You were kicked for it before, so obviously someone else cares, too. |
| 17:19.49 | Baylink-workSat | That's the beauty of IRC: your client knows how not to show those messages to you. If they were as useless as that childishly written page implies, the protocol wouldn't carry them, and servers would drop them. If you don't like them, *instruct your client to stop showing them to you*. And grow up. |
| 17:20.51 | Baylink-workSat | "No one on IRC has any misunderstandings about the nature of the medium. It's all about idle chatter." That's almost entirely incorrect, at least in the channels I hang out on, but in fact it makes the argument being made here *less* palatable. Not more. |
| 17:21.56 | Baylink-workSat | "you were kicked for it before so obviously someone else" is a self-important, overly-anal git. There. FTFY. |
| 17:25.32 | domi | *giggle* i tried almost every codec-variation, 2-way video through the asterisk will not work between linphone and the vp5500 |
| 17:25.42 | Kyosh | bay: you've been on IRC a long time a gather, right? |
| 17:25.47 | domi | only the vp5500 sends its video to linphone |
| 17:26.00 | domi | if i call directly over ip, everything works fine |
| 17:26.39 | Baylink-workSat | domi: you wireshark that yet, to see what payload protocol it's actually negotiating on the direct connection? |
| 17:26.53 | p3nguin | kyosh: Not long enough, or he wouldn't have such poor netiquette. |
| 17:27.01 | Baylink-workSat | Kyosh; IRC, Usenet, Fidonet, yada yada, back to 83 |
| 17:27.26 | Kyosh | p3nguin, back in the day, it was proper netiquette to actually use AFK and crap |
| 17:27.34 | Baylink-workSat | p3nguin: Yesterday's launch was, admittedly, a special case. |
| 17:27.35 | Kyosh | although i always hated it |
| 17:27.45 | domi | Baylink-workSat: no, will do it later. i guess the problem ist the h263-implementation... h263, h263p, h263-1998, ... |
| 17:27.48 | Baylink-workSat | But that document is *entirely* too anal for the real world. |
| 17:28.00 | Baylink-workSat | Yeah, there's a metric shitload of them, aren't there? |
| 17:28.03 | Kyosh | buy baylink should know that such AFK's and crap are not considered good netiquette in some places anymore. |
| 17:28.30 | Kyosh | like i never appreciated the LOL crap which still exists |
| 17:29.12 | p3nguin | You don't like that people use the acronyms or that they are expressing emotion? |
| 17:29.16 | Baylink-workSat | Everyone has different tastes. I quote again the Fidonet motto: Be ye not overly annoying, nor too easily annoyed. It's that latter half that way too many people have trouble with these days. |
| 17:30.54 | Kyosh | fido is not the internet, nor is it freenode or to be accurate, it's not this channel. |
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| 17:32.03 | Baylink-workSat | Oh, is this now the "we're arrogant gits cause we know so much; if you don't like it, fuck off; we don't have to act like humans" channel? |
| 17:32.22 | Baylink-workSat | Cause that's what the attitude and presentation I'm getting come down to, guys. |
| 17:33.06 | domi | hmm... useless nickchanges are not welcome on the most chans i know |
| 17:33.21 | Baylink-workSat | "Useless" is certainly begging the question there, yes. |
| 17:33.21 | p3nguin | You've suggested to not be so easily annoyed, but we're suggesting that you don't be so damned annoying. |
| 17:33.54 | Baylink-workSat | Ok. Bye. |
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| 17:34.01 | domi | use /away if your are away, fine clients will show it (like xchat). |
| 17:34.06 | domi | eh? |
| 17:34.53 | p3nguin | Sometimes people act more like children than their actual ages. |
| 17:35.06 | p3nguin | I think that was his way of saying he's taking his ball and going home. |
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| 18:04.49 | FinboySlick | I'm curious of the proper way to relay the 'voicemail waiting' signal. I have an iax account on server1 with corresponding mailbox, server2 connects to that iax account and relays any calls to one of its sip clients (a hard phone). I want server2 to tell the hardphone when my iax account on server1 has voicemail waiting (make the voicemail light blink on the hardphone). |
| 18:05.29 | FinboySlick | Quick workaround would be to just let the voicemail bit happen on server2, obviously. |
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| 18:27.25 | SpaceBass | hey folks |
| 18:27.57 | SpaceBass | I think I'm going to replace my PBX In a flash setup today... b/t asterisknow and switchvox, anyone have a preference? |
| 18:29.06 | Dandan | with asterisk |
| 18:29.09 | Dandan | wrong channel to ask |
| 18:29.20 | Dandan | ^^ topic |
| 18:29.25 | [TK]D-Fender | SpaceBass: Have you tried both? |
| 18:29.25 | Dandan | !topic |
| 18:30.05 | SpaceBass | I see the topic, thanks Dandan - thought folks in this group might have some insight across both platforms |
| 18:30.17 | [TK]D-Fender | SpaceBass: Have you tried both?<------- |
| 18:30.17 | SpaceBass | [TK]D-Fender, not yet |
| 18:30.31 | [TK]D-Fender | SpaceBass: Then get off your ass and see which is right for YOU <- |
| 18:30.55 | SpaceBass | [TK]D-Fender, frankly I'm just trying to get up and running, don't have the time to try 5 different ones...just looking for a discussion about pros and cons...no big deal |
| 18:30.56 | SpaceBass | thanks |
| 18:31.32 | [TK]D-Fender | SpaceBass: How can't we state pro's & cons when you don't have a stated direction and list of needs? |
| 18:32.01 | Dandan | that's why I recommended asterisk |
| 18:32.03 | [TK]D-Fender | SpaceBass: A screwdriver might not be a hammer, but maybe its enough to just flatten down the nail edge |
| 18:32.09 | Dandan | plain vanilla |
| 18:32.29 | [TK]D-Fender | Dandan: Once you go Rocky Road... you never go back |
| 18:32.34 | SpaceBass | fair question - home user, 8 IP phones, 4 sip/IAX trunks, usually no more than 2 concurrent calls... |
| 18:32.45 | [TK]D-Fender | SpaceBass: thats a volume, not an implementation |
| 18:32.46 | Dandan | [TK]D-Fender: that's the beauty! :-D |
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| 18:33.12 | [TK]D-Fender | SpaceBass: 500 phones? Who cares? What kind of PROCESSING is it going to do for you |
| 18:33.27 | [TK]D-Fender | SpaceBass: You seem to have troubel grasping thats what GUI's configure for you |
| 18:34.18 | SpaceBass | you seem to have trouble being a decent human... look man, I'm sorry if my coming here and asking a question has perturbed you, you do not need to answer...unless of course you get your rocks off being an ass online. |
| 18:34.40 | Dandan | GUI? Isn't that spelled gooey? :> Does asterisk have a gooey? :> |
| 18:34.57 | [TK]D-Fender | SpaceBass: You aren't telling us what you want the system to capable of providing you |
| 18:35.14 | [TK]D-Fender | SpaceBass: What you listed , every platform offers. but implies nothing about the processing |
| 18:35.21 | Dandan | SpaceBass: try for yourself, seriously |
| 18:35.25 | Dandan | quit bothering us |
| 18:35.28 | [TK]D-Fender | SpaceBass: You can have as moany phones, trunks, etc on ANY * based system |
| 18:36.06 | [TK]D-Fender | SpaceBass: Some GUI's SUCK at queue management? What are your reporting nedds? How do calls have to be processed? Do you expect to be able to bolt on custom code? |
| 18:36.23 | [TK]D-Fender | SpaceBass: having special needs and not adressing them with get you fucked when you pick the wrong platform |
| 18:36.37 | [TK]D-Fender | SpaceBass: So if I care about giving you a QUALITY answer... sue me. |
| 18:36.48 | Dandan | may I? :> |
| 18:36.59 | SpaceBass | Im not new to asterisk at all, been running it for 3 years... over the last 2 its basically just run without much intervention, although with some issues that frankly I haven't had time to sort out. I'm going to dedicate some time tomorrow, wipe clean, rebuild ... just looking for a suggestion on a platform |
| 18:37.19 | SpaceBass | so when you ask about processing - I'm not exactly sure what you mean |
| 18:37.32 | Dandan | ubuntu 10.04 LTS + asterisk, works like a charm, there, your suggestion |
| 18:37.33 | SpaceBass | its a 2.0ghz celeron, 2gb ram |
| 18:37.34 | [TK]D-Fender | SpaceBass: Again, you aren't telling us what its expected to do for you. Otherwise the answer becomes "whatever you want" |
| 18:37.43 | [TK]D-Fender | SpaceBass: Again, your sever hardware is not a factor |
| 18:38.00 | [TK]D-Fender | SpaceBass: Nor is the # of phone. Or trunks. These have no impact on your choice |
| 18:38.16 | SpaceBass | right, but user experience does have an impact |
| 18:38.31 | [TK]D-Fender | SpaceBass: Not when we can't tell how you're going to drive the car once you get it. |
| 18:38.33 | SpaceBass | nevermind... I'll sort it it out, thanks |
| 18:38.51 | [TK]D-Fender | SpaceBass: You could be asking for a Toyota Echo, and you might actually need a PICKUP TRUNK. |
| 18:38.55 | [TK]D-Fender | TRUCK |
| 18:39.06 | [TK]D-Fender | SpaceBass: what PROCESSING is your system expected to do for your calls? |
| 18:39.07 | Dandan | :> too much asterisk :D |
| 18:39.50 | SpaceBass | home setup ... not sure what else to say... I know every platform on the harware I have is going to be capable of more than I need...I'm not worried about number of calls, phonnes... I know they are all capable... just trying to get a sense of which people like more |
| 18:39.54 | [TK]D-Fender | SpaceBass: Your phone count mees nothing. Switchvox is CLOSED so don't expect expansion. With that screw you over? |
| 18:40.14 | SpaceBass | so to your analogy, a prius or a tundra will both get from A to B ... which is more fun to drive? |
| 18:40.41 | SpaceBass | [TK]D-Fender, ok, thats great input ... switchbox being closed |
| 18:40.43 | [TK]D-Fender | SpaceBass: What part of "the details about what kind of functionality the PBX offers you can complete fuck you up the ass if you don't ensure that it addresses them?" don't you understand? |
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| 18:41.25 | SpaceBass | you're a people person arn't you? |
| 18:41.27 | SpaceBass | i can tell |
| 18:41.58 | [TK]D-Fender | SpaceBass: "I need to transport stuff" doesn't mean you need a pickup truck. "Stuff" could be anything. If their idea of "stuff" is their university books, then the answer is "no". |
| 18:42.09 | Dandan | (you'd be done dling both .iso's right about now) |
| 18:43.03 | SpaceBass | yep...and will be out side drinking a beer while they finish |
| 18:43.06 | SpaceBass | have a great weekend guys |
| 18:43.07 | [TK]D-Fender | SpaceBass: And you are asking for advice without giving us a need to fill then how can we answer? Every GUI lets you configure phones. Hardly a key difference. Every GUI lets you add ITSP's, etc. So this isn't enough |
| 18:43.17 | Dandan | cu SpaceBass :) |
| 18:43.25 | Dandan | stop by if you have any sepcific qs |
| 18:43.26 | Dandan | :) |
| 18:44.58 | [TK]D-Fender | SpaceBass: Don't ask which is preferable without saying what you intend to do with it. All the things you mentioned at just the oods & ends... has nothing to do with the actions they will take. |
| 18:46.04 | [TK]D-Fender | "Hi I have phones.... I need a highly integrated Call center solution with call recording, a management screen where CSR's can join in on another CSR's call forcibly and integrates with our CRM" |
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| 18:46.14 | [TK]D-Fender | Guess ho many sultions drop off the map? |
| 18:46.19 | [TK]D-Fender | solutions* |
| 18:46.28 | [TK]D-Fender | dang... typing going down the tubes.... |
| 18:46.37 | Dandan | lol :) |
| 18:47.04 | [TK]D-Fender | Dandan: Oh since you're here... what's better... apples or oranges? |
| 18:48.03 | Dandan | "you did not tell us what you are planning on doing with them" therefore I can't answer, sometimes you need a car to move stuff around... oops :> |
| 18:48.33 | Dandan | sometimes it is apples, sometimes oranges :P |
| 18:49.02 | [TK]D-Fender | Dandan: Good luck moving your yacht around with that Echo however ;) |
| 18:49.13 | [TK]D-Fender | Dandan: You said oranges? |
| 18:49.36 | Dandan | well, I prefer just going down to a nearby store and picking up a tree... or two :D |
| 18:49.39 | [TK]D-Fender | Dandan: I tried that and it didn't keep the doctor away!!! Now I've got cancer and its all your fault! |
| 18:49.41 | Dandan | then I can decide for myself! |
| 18:49.46 | Dandan | and so should you!!! |
| 18:50.13 | Dandan | besides there are other channels (namely #apples, #oranges) that might have an answer on pros and cons on both apples and oranges! |
| 18:50.33 | Dandan | [TK]D-Fender: if you are still unhappy, SUE ME!!! |
| 18:50.46 | [TK]D-Fender | Dandan: Those people are all biased! |
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| 18:51.20 | Dandan | [TK]D-Fender: aren't we all? |
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| 18:52.08 | [TK]D-Fender | Dandan: The #orange people told me they liked oranges better. But I didn't need an orange! They didn't even ask if that's what I needed! And this statement doesn't bear ANY 100% parallel to SpaceBass at ALL! |
| 18:52.42 | Dandan | rotfl! |
| 18:56.43 | [TK]D-Fender | s/orange/FreePBX/ |
| 18:56.56 | [TK]D-Fender | Dandan: Oh wait... it DOES :p |
| 18:57.15 | [TK]D-Fender | damn... didn't ignore spaces for full effect! |
| 19:01.13 | Trixboxer | Hi, Im trying to register a BroadVoice trunk but its not getting registered |
| 19:01.18 | Trixboxer | http://pastebin.com/U3JTq1jU |
| 19:01.37 | Trixboxer | I see only REGISTER message sent in debug mode |
| 19:02.16 | Trixboxer | The broadvoice ip resolves correctly and I can ping it from my server |
| 19:02.46 | [TK]D-Fender | Trixboxer: Retransmitting #6 (NAT) to 147.135.32.221:5060: <- THEY are not behind NAT. Fix this |
| 19:03.23 | [TK]D-Fender | Trixboxer: and packets aren't making it back. Can be a forwaring/firewall issue as well.. wrong, IP, who knows. Too much is masked and your environment insufficiently described |
| 19:06.42 | Trixboxer | Sorry about that, The server is having a public IP but the phones are on private lan |
| 19:06.47 | Trixboxer | so I set nat=yes |
| 19:07.01 | Trixboxer | I'll remove that and will give a try |
| 19:09.29 | [TK]D-Fender | Trixboxer: your provider is not behind NAT. |
| 19:10.03 | p3nguin | PAP2T in a remote network won't successfully register. http://pastebin.com/bbUXtpea |
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| 19:13.15 | Trixboxer | I have removed the nat=yes from sip_nat.conf and did a amportal restart |
| 19:13.21 | Trixboxer | still same signal |
| 19:13.36 | ChannelZ | p3nguin: Looks like it's not even trying to auth with the digest info * sends |
| 19:14.46 | p3nguin | The guy was trying to register direct to VoIP.ms, but it was failing. I had him switch it over here so I could at least see debug info. Could it be a firmware problem? |
| 19:16.46 | ChannelZ | Could be |
| 19:16.50 | p3nguin | Once he's back online, I'll ask him to use a softphone to attempt to eliminate his router as the problem. |
| 19:17.42 | [TK]D-Fender | Trixboxer: Contact: <sip:1001@myip> <- either your IP is wrong or you have a networking issue |
| 19:18.14 | Trixboxer | myip=server ip (public ip) |
| 19:18.45 | p3nguin | If you weren't hiding pertinent information, he wouldn't have to guess as much. |
| 19:19.06 | Trixboxer | Im confused cause it was ok previously and suddenly no reply from broadvoice IP |
| 19:23.34 | Trixboxer | [TK]D-Fender, If you need any more information I'll give you that |
| 19:25.16 | [TK]D-Fender | Trixboxer: confirm your IP, then check every router & firewall |
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| 19:26.28 | Trixboxer | May be the DC guys have done some firewall changes.. thanks |
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| 19:41.26 | Trixboxer | [TK]D-Fender, even I try to register the trunk on other country server its showing the same result.. only one way talk. |
| 19:41.33 | Trixboxer | I'll paste the trunk config |
| 19:43.29 | Trixboxer | http://pastebin.com/RpGc09eN |
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| 19:52.13 | domi | has anyone an example mobile.conf? |
| 19:53.52 | domi | ahh... got one |
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| 20:45.38 | dinesh___ | hi all, could someone tell me what an SIP User-Agent and SIP GRUU are (in short, just what they are used for) ? |
| 20:46.22 | dinesh___ | from what I read, it seems that an SIP URI represents a user, a user-agent would be a device and a GRUU the combination of the SIP URI + the User-Agent, to identify a device belonging to a user |
| 20:59.46 | Trixboxer | User-Agent is the software / firmware which you use to talk with the SIP server |
| 21:00.40 | Trixboxer | SIP URI is the Unique identifier for the peer like a email box |
| 21:03.56 | p3nguin | more like an email address. |
| 21:06.49 | bluOxigen | hello p3nguin, |
| 21:07.00 | p3nguin | hmm... |
| 21:07.04 | p3nguin | hi. |
| 21:07.12 | bluOxigen | p3nguin, no nick change today |
| 21:07.18 | bluOxigen | lol |
| 21:07.28 | bluOxigen | i really liked that |
| 21:07.38 | p3nguin | Oh, I guess you missed the fun earlier. |
| 21:08.11 | bluOxigen | did i, really ? |
| 21:13.04 | ChanZPickingHisN | oh, darn. |
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| 21:49.30 | *** topic/#asterisk is Asterisk: The Open Source PBX and Telephony Platform (asterisk.org) -=- Asterisk 1.6.2.8 (2010/06/01), 1.6.0.28, 1.6.1.20 (2010/05/20), 1.4.32 (2010/06/01), *-Addons 1.6.2.1, 1.6.1.3, 1.6.0.5, 1.4.11 (2010/04/15), dahdi-linux 2.3.0 + dahdi-tools 2.3.0 (2010/04/13), libpri 1.4.11.1 (2010/06/02) -=- Related channels: #asterisknow,#switchvox,#freepbx,#asterisk-dev,#asterisk-bugs |
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| 22:40.48 | kmdm | Hi - for a standard UK BT line... looking at the pin assignments for the TDM400P ( 3 = Tip, 4 = Ring), can someone tell me which pins they need to be connected to on a BT socket? (e.g. 3 = A, 4 = B ?) |
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