IRC log for #asterisk on 20100310

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00:29.01timeshellyes
00:29.08timeshell1 channel per call.
00:34.38Kattyhi
00:37.12leifmadsenspenguin[work]: actually, 1 channel carries one part of a call. 1 call is typically made up of 2 channels
00:37.25leifmadsenA ---------call -------------> B
00:37.44leifmadsenA ---- chan1 ---> Asterisk --- chan2 -----> B
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00:42.11zikitiGood night
00:42.44leifmadsengood eve
00:42.57zikitiI have been tasked with analyzing Asterisk CDRs form the mysql database
00:43.09leifmadsenbacks away slowly, turns, and sprints away
00:43.30zikitiOne issue I have is identifying a specific call that would have gone to a calling group
00:43.30Kattygives leifmadsen a lift out of town
00:43.38zikiti:)
00:43.50zikitithere seems to be no way to  identify a specif call
00:44.03Kattyi was thinking about seeing alice in wonderland
00:44.07leifmadsenzikiti: that may be entirely true -- CDRs are really only useful in the most basic of cases
00:44.09Kattyor perhaps crazy heart
00:44.16zikitiUnderstood
00:44.22zikitiBut that's all I have to wrk with
00:44.33zikitiThey want to use it to see how the customer service reps are doing
00:44.41zikitiThey seem to be not answering the calls
00:44.42leifmadsenzikiti: that's why CEL was created (currently in trunk, available in 1.8 once available sometime around Q3 or Q4 of this year?)
00:44.58zikitiCEL?
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00:45.25leifmadsenzikiti: I'd suggest looking at some of the existing CDR analyzing programs, perhaps like queue metrics
00:45.27leifmadsen~cel
00:45.28infobot[cel] Channel Event Logging
00:45.34leifmadsenoh that's useful...
00:45.38spenguin[work]leifmadsen: the skype module supports 1 channel per licence - that would mean I need to have two licences for incomming and outgoing?
00:45.38zikitiok
00:45.43spenguin[work]or Im just confused
00:45.46leifmadsenspenguin[work]: yes
00:45.52leifmadsen1 channel per license
00:45.56spenguin[work]hrm
00:46.00leifmadsenincoming == 1 channel
00:46.02leifmadsenoutgoing == 1 channel
00:46.05leifmadsen1 + 1 = 2 :)
00:46.11zikitileifmadsen: Is it open source? and are there other open source aps you know of?
00:46.23zikitiI'm interested in how they query the DB
00:46.31leifmadsenzikiti: CDRs are a black art, so you're not going to find anything worth beans that doesn't cost at least something
00:46.37zikitihmmm
00:46.39zikitiok
00:46.43Kattywell.
00:46.44leifmadsenunless you develop it yourself
00:46.47spenguin[work]leifmadsen: that is, if I need to have simultaneously an incomming and outgoing call to be possible?
00:46.47Kattynot that it will be much help.
00:46.55Kattybut asterisk-stat does offer /some/ very basic querying
00:46.56zikitiWell essentially that's what I'm doing
00:46.56Kattyit's php.
00:47.01Kattyinfobot: asterisk-stat?
00:47.05leifmadsenzikiti: at which point, you need to create a few scenarios, look at what the CDRs are doing, then program your stats around that
00:47.11leifmadsen~asterisk-stat
00:47.14leifmadsennot sure if that works...
00:47.27Kattyinfobot: asterisk-stat is http://areski.net/areski/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=22&Itemid=54
00:47.28infobotKatty: okay
00:47.30leifmadsenya that one might work
00:47.31leifmadsenhttp://www.areski.net/areski/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=22&Itemid=54
00:47.32leifmadsenhaha
00:47.34leifmadsenyay google
00:47.38leifmadsen~google
00:47.39infobotgoogle is probably http://lmgtfy.com/?q=google
00:47.39zikiti:)
00:47.40zikitithanks
00:47.42KattyI"M TOO QUICK FOR OLD MAN
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00:47.47Kattyalso, i cant' type
00:47.48leifmadsenKatty: that's what she said
00:47.53leifmadsenliterally
00:47.54spenguin[work]hhaha
00:47.55Katty*hee*
00:48.02zikitiSaw this one earlier
00:48.10Kattyi have a ferret staring at me
00:48.12leifmadsenheads off to poor a bath
00:48.14zikitiIt's queries are BURIED in cryptic code
00:48.21leifmadsenKatty: it wants to bite you, much like my fiancee
00:48.29leifmadsens/poor/pour/
00:48.31spenguin[work]Katty: feed it something
00:48.32Kattydon't be redonkulus
00:48.35Kattymy ferrets don't bite
00:48.37zikitiWas trying to piece together the queries but... I gave up
00:48.50zikitiferrets? Biting
00:48.52zikiti?
00:48.52leifmadsenzikiti: yep, you're probably better off just building them yourself at that point
00:49.01zikiti:)
00:49.03zikitiOk
00:49.15zikitiThanks guys
00:49.20zikitiAnd gals
00:50.21leifmadsenzikiti: I ended up just having to program my own functions in func_odbc to write stuff to the database when things happened
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00:50.36zikitiI get you
00:50.37leifmadsenzikiti: then creating my own views to abstract the information out of the DB for me for billing purposes
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00:50.55trentcreekdrmessano: what was the  URL to reset the ATAs on a server via http?
00:50.57leifmadsenso I wrote my own queries, then used those to write to the database. It was pretty straight forward.
00:51.11leifmadsenzikiti: I generally avoid the CDRs where at all possible
00:51.18zikitiI have no choice
00:51.25leifmadsenthat is unfortunate
00:51.28zikitiHave to look at historical data
00:51.33leifmadsengotcha
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00:52.09leifmadsenwell, I'd suggest you simplify the scenario a bit by abstracting how the agents COULD handle calls, then reproducing the scenarios on a test machine, and see what your CDRs look like so you can understand what your data is telling you
00:52.26zikitiok
00:52.30leifmadsenotherwise you'll just end up with something that resembles spaghetti
00:53.09spenguin[work]leifmadsen: Id should just need 1 skype channel if Im am calling/recieving 1 call to/from skype at any given momment?
00:53.30spenguin[work]its a bit confusing :s
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00:55.31leifmadsenspenguin[work]: not really. You can either accept an incoming call (1 channel) or you can place an outgoing call (1 channel).  To accept a call then forward it out to another Skype location would require 2 channels.
00:55.51spenguin[work]ok I get it
00:55.53leifmadsenof course!
00:56.08spenguin[work]:>
00:56.17leifmadsenif you are placing a call FROM a Skype location (phone) to another Skype end point (another phone) you need TWO channels
00:56.40leifmadsenSkype --->  Asterisk ---> Skype       That scenario requires 2 channels
00:57.01leifmadsenSkype (jimmy) ----> Asterisk ----> Skype (jackie)
00:57.11spenguin[work]leifmadsen: ok but I wouldnt need asterisk for that ..
00:57.17carrarwhat about Skype --->  Asterisk ---> Skype ---> Skype --->  Asterisk ---> Skype ---> Skype --->  Asterisk ---> Skype
00:57.47leifmadsencarrar: 2 licenses per asterisk server in that chain
00:57.51carrarheh
00:57.54leifmadsen:D
00:58.05leifmadsenor 6 licenses if on the same server
00:58.09leifmadsenspenguin[work]: right
00:58.26carrara forever looping echo
00:58.30leifmadsenspenguin[work]: unless of course you had an IVR you wanted to use before the call got to your other client
00:58.36leifmadsenok, I'm out!
00:58.41spenguin[work]heh
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01:10.38drmessanoWhat if the call is half duplex?
01:11.00drmessanoCan I get away with 4 calls on 2 licenses using proper slotting techniques?
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01:13.09drmessanoWhat if I use spread spectrum audio and drop every 10th 100hz of audibility staggered across 10 calls?  I hardly think the call quality would suffer much, thought the crosstalk is gonna be a bitch
01:15.07drmessanoNevermind the DSP overhead to process every 10th slice from 100hz to 13,000hz
01:17.12drmessano130 emulated 100hz filters x 10 calls is going to require a little more than my PII 500mhz, I think
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01:43.33trentcreekI just entered "core show codecs" and  g729 shows up. Are they now including it without having to pay?
01:44.07ChannelZthat doesn't mean you have all those codecs
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01:44.18ChannelZit's just showing you the ID's of them all..
01:44.21trentcreekThen what does?
01:44.28ChannelZSee where it says "It does not indicate anything about your configuration."
01:45.36trentcreekyes, but is does not indicate they are installed or not config/install !=
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01:48.24KingDavidNYCHello everybody!!
01:49.05ChannelZif you have g729 installed you will have some 'g729' commands and a 'g729 show licenses'
01:50.32ChannelZ'core show translations' can also give you a little bit of a clue as to what is available
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01:50.52ChannelZany codecs you don't have, you will have -'s all the way across the row
01:51.08carrarWHAT
01:51.12trentcreekChannelZ: thanks
01:51.13carrarI demand free g729!!
01:52.00trentcreekcarrar: there is free g729
01:52.06ChannelZno there isn't
01:52.08carrarI know
01:52.13ChannelZthere's an illegally free one.
01:52.17carrarbut there are free movies and music too
01:52.17KingDavidNYCchannelZ: yes there is
01:52.22carrardoesn't mean it's right
01:52.39KingDavidNYCChannelZ: it is not illegal
01:52.44carrarA theif will be a theif
01:52.48ChannelZrolls his eyes - here we go
01:53.35hardwirewot?
01:53.56coppicecarrar: movies aren't free. Avatar, for example, costs 3 hours of your life you can never get back
01:53.59trentcreekFREE g729!   http://www.readytechnology.co.uk/open/ipp-codecs-g729-g723.1/
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01:54.10carrarhaha coppice, I don't plan on seeing it :)
01:54.13ChannelZDid the g729 patent expire?
01:54.20carrarI have my 3 hours
01:54.25trentcreeknope
01:54.34hardwireplease note that use of those binaries will result in poor sexual performance.
01:54.37trentcreekYou can't patent it in the EU
01:54.49ChannelZDoes the website you posted say "for every time we see someone download this, we will pay royalities to the patent holder on your behalf"?
01:54.54coppicetrentcreek: wrong
01:56.21trentcreekcoppice: okay..VERY HARD
01:56.57coppicethere are about 15 patents related to G.729, and I don't know of one that isn't valid in the EU
01:57.39carrarthe server is on the moon, it's ok if you download it from the moon
01:58.02coppicenah, the US staked claim to the moon in 1969
01:58.18ChannelZ"Do you have a flag?"
01:58.29Nuggetheh
01:58.31carrartrentcreek
01:58.34carrarYou arein the US
01:58.35coppicethey do. I saw them plant it
01:58.44carraryou need to follow US Law
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01:59.06trentcreeknot if server is not
01:59.15carrarYou think so
01:59.30carrarDid you read that on their web site? :)
01:59.34NuggetI wouldn't want to be on that side of the lawsuit.
01:59.43ChannelZIf you can afford the Internet access to be here, you can afford the 8 fucking dollars to buy a g729 license if you actually need it.
02:00.12trentcreekActually I can't. I don't pay for any internet access
02:00.35ChannelZWhich is worth it for the time you will save in not having to download some jacked up stolen codec code and compile it into your Asterisk
02:00.46TJNIIPhrase of the day: "Extruded cookie log"
02:00.56ChannelZhmmm
02:01.03ChannelZI just made one of those half an hour ago
02:01.22ChannelZ(Subway for lunch and all..)
02:01.45TJNIIGroan...
02:01.57ChannelZ:)
02:02.33ChannelZNew euphamism. "BTB, I gotta go extrude a cookie log.."
02:04.14AkiraaIs there windows software that can interface with digium/sangoma cards which can turn an existing PC into a voip gateway?
02:04.47Akiraato be used by a remote asterisk instance, for example
02:06.49carrarWhats windows?
02:06.59ChannelZThose things birds fly into.
02:07.02carrarYou X Window?
02:07.06carraryou mean X window?
02:07.14carraroh
02:07.15carraryeah
02:07.18carrarGLASS Windows
02:07.23coppicecarrar: windows are a source of pane
02:07.26hardwiremoon server?
02:07.30AkiraaI was thinking of using a remote low-power yate or 3cx instance running on an existing pc
02:07.31hardwirewhere do I sign up?
02:08.27carrarAs long as the server is not the US, RULES do not apply and you can do anything you want :)
02:08.28coppiceAkiraa: yate and freeswitch both run on windows, but with those you probably don't need * at all
02:08.36carrarheh
02:08.37spenguin[work]hey anyone know about the skype module
02:08.40spenguin[work]for asterisk
02:09.00spenguin[work]since Leif isnt around
02:09.27trentcreekMicrosoft Response Point
02:09.29Akiraacoppice: just as a gateway for a few trunk lines
02:13.10ChannelZI have one channel of it
02:15.21ChannelZWow, Skype posted the code for SILK
02:18.11spenguin[work]ChannelZ: do I need multiple licenses for inbound skype calls
02:18.23spenguin[work]say I do inbound as skype -> asterisk -> sip
02:20.10ChannelZfor multiple calls yes
02:20.27ChannelZ1 channel is 1 call, either in or out
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02:55.21KingDavidNYCAnyone here knows how to capture a dtmf in the middle of a conversation?
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04:02.52manxpower~answers
04:02.52infobotmethinks answers is Asterisk Book: http://astbook.asteriskdocs.org & SIP w/ NAT: http://www.aocomputing.net/?p=3 & Wiki:  http://www.voip-info.org & docs: /path/to/src/asterisk/doc & 1.4 .vs. 1.6.0 .vs. 1.6.1: : /path/to/src/asterisk/UPGRADE*.txt
04:04.39KingDavidNYCanybody knows how to capture a dtmf in the middle of a conversation?
04:24.29Kobazfeatures.conf
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06:18.20gnufanhi all.. getting the following in /var/log/asterisk.. is this brute force attack?
06:18.21gnufanWARNING[1206] chan_sip.c: Maximum retries exceeded on transmission 238599168882@25.102.114.119 for seqno 2 (Critical Response)
06:20.03gnufanAlso...
06:20.04gnufanMaximum retries exceeded on transmission 856858975040@192.168.3.111 for seqno 2 (Critical Response)
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07:23.49xNinjahello...i am seeking a solution for my work building around 50 users or more
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07:26.04xNinjaif we only need the users to have their calls to offices forwarded to their cell phones and to have sip feature to make their calls freely around the country using their office number
07:26.10xNinjawhich is the best solution for this?
07:27.21xNinjai got a quotation from a big company to use avaya hardware and it costs around 100,000 which i think is very high price!
07:29.45kaldemaran asterisk box won't even cost you a tenth of that.
07:30.13xNinjayeah but i have some questions if you or someone else may answer ?
07:31.01kaldemargo ahead and ask.
07:31.14xNinjawe have a normal phone system in the building with extensions
07:33.05xNinjasome offices has direct lines which u can call them directly from outside and some no which mean u have to call the main number and put the extension to their office
07:35.09xNinjaso what solution and what hardware we need to have these features atleast: calls to offices will be forwarded to cell phone after ex:5 rings and the users can use SIP option to use their office lines to make calls
07:35.19xNinjamay you help me with this ?
07:37.28xNinjamy specialist in IT so i hope you tellme how things will work and which products i need to go and read about them
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07:40.56xNinjasorry
07:41.31xNinjaso what you think ?
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07:42.27kaldemarthere's many ways to do things, you can get telephony hardware to connect PSTN or use an ITSP. those things are possible and somewhat easy to implement.
07:42.35kaldemarthis is a good read on asterisk:
07:42.38kaldemar~book
07:42.39infobot[~book] Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF at http://www.asteriskdocs.org --- HTML at http://astbook.asteriskdocs.org or see ~buybook
07:46.01xNinjafirst of all i will need an asterisk server...what about a phone hardware do we need other phones than the ones we use ?
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07:48.36ChannelZdepends on your hardware and the phones you use
07:48.38kaldemardepends on what you use now.
07:49.41xNinjamay you tellme what i have to check to know what exactly we need for that ?
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07:52.51kaldemarthe technology the phones use. are they regular POTS phones? if VoIP, what protocol do they use?
07:53.51tzafrirjust installed Debian on a used G3 iMac. bogomips: 49
07:54.26tzafrir(I wanted to have a big endian test system)
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07:54.59kaldemarget 50 more of those and you'll have a usable cluster, maybe. :)
08:06.46xNinjathanks kaldemar  i can say its not voip
08:06.51xNinjapots i guess
08:07.40xNinjaunless if there is other than pots and voip
08:08.04xNinjai want to ask the guys in the phone department to take more info
08:08.40xNinjais that all i have to ask pots or voip or other ?   is there something else which will be useful ?
08:10.29kaldemarthere are digital proprietory protocols common in PBX's that asterisk won't do.
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08:16.55xNinjaso i will need a converter for that right ? may you point what i may need for our setup ?
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08:19.34ChannelZWhat country are you in?
08:19.40xNinjakuwait
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08:19.53xNinjathe wired to wired phones are free
08:20.00xNinjaalso wired to cell are free for both
08:21.14xNinjafor sure cell to cell or to wired are not free
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08:23.54Polysicshello
08:24.10Polysicscalls still have no audio, and we are on two different networks today
08:24.28Polysicsboth normal home ADSLs, which mean no fancy firewalls
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08:56.18Polysicsi am having repeated DNS failuers when registering to our VoIP provider, yet the server does resolve the host
08:56.43Polysicssip debug shows 3 registers, followed by no answers
08:58.37tzafrirhere are also the translation speeds there. I'm done with it: http://pastebin.ca/1831476
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09:25.26icekhi
09:26.26iceksomeone can help me ?
09:26.46ChannelZI don't have any spare change.
09:27.09kaldemar~ask
09:27.09infobotQuestions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic.  Don't ask if you can ask a question first.  Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them.  Better questions more frequently yield better answers.  We are all here voluntarily or against our will.
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09:29.46Polysicshello
09:29.58Polysicsfirewall woes aside, is it a bad idea to run Asterisk on a VPS?
09:30.04Polysicsespecially if it is inside a firewall?
09:30.27ChannelZPossibly maybe
09:30.59ChannelZIt probably has a lot to do with how you sort out the networking on the virtual machine
09:31.11Polysicsi would say the problem lies in being on a firewalled machine
09:31.20Polysicsthe VPS should not be aproblem if properly done
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09:31.33ChannelZOf course
09:31.39icekI`m install asterisk using this FAQ : http://www.pcgmarket.com/wiki/index.php/Asterisk#Configurating_database, and allis fine, i create some mysql user in sip-buddies and when i log to asterisk using X-lite, console say : http://pastebin.com/HDEq0u8i
09:33.05PolysicsChannelZ, can firewall woes on the server cause two SIP clients to be able to call each other but not hear audio?
09:33.26Polysicsat least i know what to blame
09:33.59ChannelZPolysics: Definately
09:34.33Polysicsi'd swear but i am trying to remain calm
09:34.34ChannelZThe firewall could be blocking the RTP ports, and/or the devices themselves might be giving out phony IP addresses in such a way that they aren't talking to each other
09:35.11Polysicsthe devices can connect to another properly configured * and talk, so i would say the clients are 90% not a problem
09:35.23Polysicssince the SIP accounts have exactly the same options
09:35.36Polysicsas in "i copied the sip.conf block over"
09:36.07ChannelZThat could be bad depending on what options are in it, but ok
09:36.22ChannelZWithout knowing your network topology I can't venture any more specific guesses
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09:50.29icekI`m install asterisk using this FAQ : http://www.pcgmarket.com/wiki/index.php/Asterisk#Configurating_database, and allis fine, i create some mysql user in sip-buddies and when i log to asterisk using X-lite, console say : http://pastebin.com/HDEq0u8i
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09:53.11bidossessihi all
09:57.05kaldemaricek: looks like you don't have res_config_mysql from asterisk-addons installed or loaded. what does "module load res_config_mysql.so" in asterisk console say?
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10:03.01icekmodule load res_config_mysql.so
10:03.01icekUnable to load module res_config_mysql.so
10:03.01icekCommand 'module load res_config_mysql.so' failed.
10:03.01icek[Mar 10 10:59:39] WARNING[12344]: loader.c:386 load_dynamic_module: Error loading module 'res_config_mysql.so': /usr/lib/asterisk/modules/res_config_mysql.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
10:03.05icek[Mar 10 10:59:39] WARNING[12344]: loader.c:781 load_resource: Module 'res_config_mysql.so' could not be loaded.
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10:10.16icekkaldemar: hmm
10:16.53kaldemaryou don't have it installed. go to asterisk-addons dir and do a "make menuselect". under ressource modules, if you see XXX next to res_config_mysql, you don't have its dependencies met. if [ ], check it and re-run make and make install.
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10:17.52kaldemarin case of XXX, check that you have a libmysqlclient-dev installed and re-run ./configure and check make menuselect again.
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10:23.06icekkaldemar: http://pastebin.com/U6JJAMQA i have, check make menuselect -> Resource Modules -> [*] res_config_mysql
10:24.42kaldemarhave you run make and make install?
10:24.58icekyes now i run
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10:28.03iceki copy res_config_mysql.so to /usr/lib/asterisk/modules
10:28.28icekand :
10:28.28icekmodule load res_config_mysql.so
10:28.28icekUnable to load module res_config_mysql.so
10:28.28icekCommand 'module load res_config_mysql.so' failed.
10:28.29icek[Mar 10 11:25:12] WARNING[17492]: loader.c:771 load_resource: Module 'res_config_mysql.so' already exists.
10:30.12icekhttp://pastebin.com/PYeK5aGG
10:30.15iceknow i have this
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10:30.49hyphenexis there any way to find out why my asterisk install is eating up 100% CPU?
10:32.17Chainsawhyphenex: Do you have the core set to verbose 10 & debug 10 please?
10:32.36Chainsawhyphenex: If so, log into the asterisk console and it should admit why.
10:33.07icekkaldemar: thx now its working
10:34.24hyphenexChainsaw: how do I do that? (I'm kind of new)
10:34.38Chainsawhyphenex: asterisk -r
10:34.41Chainsawhyphenex: core set verbose 10
10:34.44Chainsawhyphenex: core set debug 10
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10:58.14bidossessihi all. i'm having a dahdi call-out issue that resembles https://issues.asterisk.org/view.php?id=15429, except that in my case an incoming call doesn't reset the hook status. running asterisk 1.6.0.25, dahdi-linux 2.2.0.2 on Centos5. how could i troubleshoot that?
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11:27.41hyphenexChainsaw: if you're still around, it's still eating 100% cpu on idle
11:28.16Chainsawhyphenex: Unless you look at verbose output and try to infer more from it, or share it with me on pastebin.ca there is nothing I can do.
11:28.42hyphenexChainsaw: but there is none :(
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11:28.54hyphenexgateway*CLI> core set verbose 10
11:28.55hyphenexVerbosity was 4 and is now 10
11:28.55hyphenexgateway*CLI> core set debug 10
11:28.55hyphenexCore debug was 0 and is now 10
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11:31.42carltonbhi all. i am looking into building a voip server/gateway which can offer tdm, c7 signalling and a billing module. What  is the best direction to go in??
11:42.43tzafrirhyphenex, in top, press 'H' (shift h) to get separate information for each thread
11:43.01tzafrirthis will get you the specific thread that uses the CPU
11:43.12tzafrir(wait for a cycle or two to get accurate data)
11:43.21tzafrirnow strace it to see what it does
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11:54.26hyphenexstrace it?
11:55.08hyphenextzafrir: sorry, I'm still lost
12:06.38bidossessihi all. i'm having a dahdi call-out issue that resembles https://issues.asterisk.org/view.php?id=15429, except that in my case an incoming call doesn't reset the hook status. running asterisk 1.6.0.25, dahdi-linux 2.2.0.2 on Centos5. how could i troubleshoot that?
12:06.40tzafrirstrace -p PID
12:06.45tzafrirhyphenex, ==^
12:07.39hyphenexohh cool.  Thanks :), i'll give it a go
12:08.37tzafrirbidossessi, technically issue 15429 is a duplicate of https://issues.asterisk.org/view.php?id=14577 .
12:08.45bidossessii'm hoping it's fixed in dahdi 2.2.1-1.
12:08.54tzafrirhowever, if an incoming call does not reset it, it's probably a different matter
12:09.07tzafrirbidossessi, what device do you use?
12:10.09bidossessitzafrir, digium TDM410 with 2 FXO modules
12:12.14adncthe sqlite cdr database which asterisk can handle, is this sqlite or sqlite3?
12:12.23hyphenextzafrir: I get tons of this:
12:12.24hyphenexoctl(0, SNDCTL_TMR_TIMEBASE or TCGETS, 0xbfffc308) = -1 ENOTTY (Inappropriate ioctl for device)
12:12.24hyphenexwrite(1, "\0"..., 1)                    = 1
12:12.24hyphenexwrite(1, "*CLI> "..., 6)                = 6
12:13.12tzafrirhyphenex, somebody tries to write to the console, but the console is /dev/null ?
12:13.42tzafrirhow was the main asterisk process run? What's its full command-line?
12:14.12hyphenextzafrir: I don't know.. in the /etc/init.d
12:14.35tzafrirps auxww | grep asterisk
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12:19.15hyphenexroot     23501 98.8  4.1  54576 21236 ?        Rl   22:35  43:34 /usr/sbin/asterisk -c
12:19.16hyphenexroot     23672  0.0  0.1   3116   712 pts/0    S+   23:19   0:00 grep asterisk
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12:20.59tzafrirhyphenex, from what terminal was it run?
12:21.16tzafrirDoes this terminal exist?
12:21.39tzafrirls -l /proc/23501/fd/1
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12:22.28hyphenextzafrir: lrwx------ 1 root root 64 2010-03-10 23:23 /proc/23501/fd/1 -> /dev/null
12:23.02tzafrirhyphenex, so basically you should avoid using 'asterisk -c' if you don't run asterisk in a terminal
12:23.20tzafrirEven though this is a bug that this causes 100% CPU
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12:52.27mallchinhi guys, is there any way to enable outbound calls when doing a graceful stop?
12:52.44mallchinbut reject new inbound calls
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12:53.12mallchinalternatively, a method to reject inbound calls with busy, I guess this is what graceful does?
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13:03.06bidossessionly one buggy ISP for this whole country. no wonder...
13:03.30bidossessitzafrir, i don't know if you remember my intervention earlier
13:04.45tzafrirbidossessi, you simply can't call out?
13:05.01bidossessiyes
13:06.14bidossessiyou were asking what device i use: TDM 410P
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13:08.38hipitihopnods to the residents
13:09.34hipitihopany recommendations for a reliable softphone app for the iphone
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13:15.16ariel_Morning
13:15.21fish-bulbhipitihop: I've used fring before. It seems pretty stable, but not the greatest softphone ever
13:16.33hipitihopfish-bulb, thanks, I guess it would need to always be running for it to be registered with asterisk
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13:17.13DaBigMachi all
13:17.38DaBigMacim wondering if someone can help with a problem Im having with asterisk
13:18.15hipitihopDaBigMac, hi.. you're btter off to just ask and if someone knows they will respond. Pretty standard irc
13:18.42DaBigMacI have Debian Linus (Lenny), built Asterisk 1.6, dahdi, and have a std fxo single port in it
13:18.43tzafririnfobot, tell DaBigMac about ask
13:18.58DaBigMacI built asterisk gui
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13:19.50DaBigMacso far so good, dahdi could see the card, gui was working fine. I started using the gui and made some changes to the hardware section applied them then rebooted
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13:20.13DaBigMacnow the server wont boot up past populating /var
13:20.25DaBigMacwhat files does the hardware section of the gui touch?
13:22.07elred_well if it's "hardware section" it's probably one of zapata.conf/dahdi.conf
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13:22.29elred_or others file dealing with your card
13:22.44elred_seek info on voip-info.org, it's of some help
13:22.44DaBigMaci noticed it touching modprobe.conf
13:23.06elred_then it probably just don't even load the right drivers for your card
13:23.17elred_making asterisk hang
13:23.18DaBigMacwhere does the gui backup the files befor touching them?
13:23.33elred_did you look at log file ? Or tried to increase verbosity ?
13:23.45elred_I have no idee, sorry. Never used a gui
13:24.09DaBigMacits locking the machine up early in the boot cycle
13:24.19elred_hmmm
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13:24.32Terminus-hello. question, how can i find out whether asterisk was built with imap support or not?
13:24.35elred_if the *system* is blocking it's not asterisk related problem
13:24.41_gmhi
13:25.02DaBigMacagreed but it only started after using hardware change in the gui'
13:25.08_gmi am running asterisk (with realtime mysql) and getting following error when calling another box
13:25.29elred_Terminus-, "strings $(which asterisk) | grep -i imap" ? ;)
13:25.35_gm<PROTECTED>
13:25.37elred_Terminus-, or ldd even
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13:26.03ManxPower-work_gm, What is the actual Dial line that shows up on the console?
13:26.12Terminus-elred_: oooh... never though of that. thought there was a more official way. =D
13:26.36ManxPower-workTerminus-, there is no official way, since you should know if you built Asterisk with IMAP support or not.
13:26.40_gmExecuting [s@CONFERENCE:6] Dial("SIP/3218435112-00001ab5", "SIP/cyrenity@77.66.16.36") in new stack
13:27.18kaldemarDaBigMac: what gui?
13:27.19Terminus-ManxPower-work: since i didn't build it, i wouldn't know. then again, maybe you'd know if the version in the yum repo has imap support?
13:27.25_gm77.66.16.36 is a peer defined in sip.conf with qualify=yes but it's always showing UNREACHABLE
13:27.42ManxPower-work_gm, You really should not dial by IP address.  I suspect your SIP device 77.66.16.36 is not available.
13:27.53elred_yup
13:27.57ManxPower-work_gm, NO NOT define peers in sip.conf by IP or hostname.
13:28.23ManxPower-work_gm, do you have NAT or firewall involved.
13:28.35ManxPower-workTerminus-, Packages are not supported here.
13:28.39_gmit's i ran sipp on same machine and it was able to connect the other box which is UNREACHABLE for for asterisk
13:28.51ManxPower-work_gm, answer the question
13:29.10_gmno firewall or nat
13:29.26_gmManxPower-work: it was working since months
13:29.31Terminus-ManxPower-work: ok. i thought since the repo i'm using is asterisk.org, it would be a valid question.
13:29.38ManxPower-work_gm, Ah, I can't help you since everything is working.
13:29.40_gmwe migrated our database and after restarting asterisk it stopped working
13:29.50ManxPower-workTerminus-, I'm sure it's a valid question for the packager.
13:30.14Terminus-ManxPower-work: ok.
13:30.27ManxPower-workThis is not Official Digium Support.  If you want to contact them, then contact Digium.  I bet Digium doesn't support those packages wither.
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13:30.45steak__hello
13:31.04_gmother than this single peer i m able to connect with every peer defined in sip.conf
13:31.24steak__is anybody here having some experience with the Snom M3 DECT/SIP phones
13:31.26steak__?
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13:32.29BCS-SatoriDoes asterisk support "sip/simple" hints?
13:33.11ManxPower-workBCS-Satori, I don't think so.  I believe Asterisk's hint model is SIP SUBSCRIBE/NOTIFY, rather than SIP SIMPLE (since SIMPLE is a text messaging thingy)
13:34.18fish-bulbhipitihop: yeah, I'm sure there are apps you can use on a jailbroken iPhone that can be backgrounded, but not on legitimate firmware
13:34.26[TK]D-FenderBCS-Satori: No
13:34.54BCS-SatoriManxPower-work & [TK]D-Fender: Thanks
13:35.22[TK]D-Fender_gm: Start by not naming the peer an IP
13:35.35Terminus-ManxPower-work: i wouldn't expect this channel to be digium support, but since it's the channel mentioned on asterisk.org, i can ask here.
13:35.47[TK]D-Fender_gm: then show us its entry, and your attempt with SIP DEBUG enabeld.
13:35.53_gm[TK]D-Fender: okay
13:35.57ManxPower-work[TK]D-Fender, I already told him that.  "It was working before 'we upgraded the database'" whatever the hell that means.
13:36.11[TK]D-FenderManxPower-work: that would be "nothing"
13:36.16ManxPower-work~packages
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13:36.58hipitihopfish-bulb, hmm ok, currently that's out of the question .. my gf is resisting getting jailbroken .. I need a seemless setup where if her iphone is at home and on the home net, it is just another peer
13:37.02LemensTSAnyone know of a sip provider that i can do fax over that i can enter into an ATA?
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13:38.50icekhi, im setup asterisk + mysql and only have in extensions.conf, exten => _X.,1,Dial(DAHDI/g0/${EXTEN})
13:39.16iceki can call, but i have this : http://pastebin.com/SLVYVC5c
13:39.55icekin chan_dahdi.conf is set up, pridialplan=dynamic
13:40.07ManxPower-workicek, Why do you have dynamic?
13:40.17AkiraaaHas anyone used the Linksys SPA400? According to the seller spec, it only works with the SPA9000 hardware pbx and not a general purpose sip ippbx (like asterisk)
13:40.26ManxPower-workicek, What is the ACTUAL dial line as show in the console that causes that message?
13:40.34[TK]D-Fenderickmund: use "unknown"
13:41.03[TK]D-FenderAkiraaa: it doesn, but its got limitations like not being able to target individual lines, etc
13:41.15[TK]D-FenderAkiraaa: Wouldn't advise...
13:42.24Akiraaa[TK]D-Fender: is there a 4FXO standalone device you would recommend?
13:42.24icekManxPower-work so i change to unknown
13:42.24icekand this same
13:42.24ManxPower-workicek, answer my question
13:42.37[TK]D-FenderAkiraaa: Mediatrix & Audiocode each have many
13:42.42ManxPower-workremember you should stop and start Asterisk when making PRI changes.
13:42.57ManxPower-work<ManxPower-work> icek, What is the ACTUAL dial line as show in the console that causes that message?
13:44.37ManxPower-workicek, DO NOT MSG ME.
13:44.54icekthis is outline
13:45.09ManxPower-workI do not understand.  What is an "outline"
13:45.28ManxPower-workI simply asked you to paste that one Dial line in the CLI.
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13:45.55ManxPower-workI think I know what the problem is but your lack of providing the information is limiting what I can do.
13:46.54icekManxPower-work: how to i can check this Dial line ? command ?
13:47.33ManxPower-workicek, connect to the exstiting Asterisk process using "asterisk -rvvv"  Make a call.  copy the line on the screen that says "Dial" and paste just that one line to the channel.
13:47.53ManxPower-workicek, you should read the Asterisk book.  You are asking basic questions everyone should now before coming here.
13:47.54ManxPower-work~book
13:47.55infobot[~book] Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF at http://www.asteriskdocs.org --- HTML at http://astbook.asteriskdocs.org or see ~buybook
13:48.00hipitihopWhat is the correct way to setup a divert  ... i.e. if I know I will be out of the house and I want calls diverted to my mobile
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13:48.28ManxPower-workhipitihop, That depends on the switch.  Chances are Asterisk does not support Divert with your switch.
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13:48.53hipitihopManxPower-work, pure voip here
13:49.00ManxPower-workDivert is a BRI term, I doubt I'd be much help diagnosing BRI problems.
13:49.21ManxPower-workhipitihop, what SPECIFICALY do you want to do?
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13:50.29icekManxPower-work: http://pastebin.com/gPCZR92G
13:50.44[TK]D-Fenderhipitihop: its your dialplan, do whatever you want
13:51.15ManxPower-workicek, I cannot help you further.
13:52.14icekManxPower-work: ok, ;/
13:52.36hipitihopManxPower-work, [TK]D-Fender  ... I would like to be able to simply divert allincoming calls to my mobile... so I guess my incomming dialplan just uses Dial(SIP/040xxxx@voipprovider)
13:53.03[TK]D-Fenderhipitihop: You "guess"?  This is your dialplan...
13:53.05ManxPower-workhipitihop, correct.  Stop using the term "divert"  You are not "diverting" you are dialing just like dialing any other destination
13:53.43[TK]D-FenderManxPower-work: Right... maybe he should have said "route" instead :)
13:53.53hipitihop[TK]D-Fender, yes yes, my dialplan :-)
13:53.56ManxPower-work[TK]D-Fender, "dial" would also be good term.
13:54.11[TK]D-FenderManxPower-work: </sarcasm>
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13:54.31[TK]D-FenderManxPower-work: c'mon... I didn't jsut telegraph that one, that was snail-mail
13:54.35icekManxPower-work: http://pastebin.com/7bGk8r3b look only this, pls
13:54.46hipitihopManxPower-work, ok, sorry in this country mobile providers talk about diverts e.g. when mobile not available, divert to another number
13:55.19ManxPower-workicek, now you are providing the information I asked for.  I may be able to help you again.  Pastebin your /etc/asterisk/chan_dahdi.conf
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13:55.59[TK]D-Fenderhipitihop: well you're talking about *.  * calls whatever you tell it to call.  There is no "divert" concept, because there is no framework for changing where a call goes consistently
13:56.13ManxPower-workhipitihop, they are using "divert" (which I think is called 2BCT), instead of "forward"
13:56.14icekManxPower-work: http://pastebin.com/By0RhZ2B
13:57.13hipitihopManxPower & [TK]D-Fender ok, thanks for the clarifications and your patience with my imprecise terminology, I will get better, promise :-)
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13:58.03[TK]D-Fendericek: pastebin you DAHDI configs
13:58.14ManxPower-workicek, Try this one: http://pastebin.com/p6ybBLiu
13:58.25ManxPower-workremember to STOP asterisk then start asterisk after updating the file.
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13:58.36icekok i try
13:59.11hipitihopI thought asmuch just doing Dial but wondered if there was an alternative ... so using the Dial approach, how will that incoming call look like to the provider ? as answered ? or only if the Dial is actualy completed by me answering on my mobile ?
13:59.26bidossessihi all. i'm having a dahdi call-out issue that resembles https://issues.asterisk.org/view.php?id=15429, except that in my case an incoming call doesn't reset the hook status. running asterisk 1.6.0.25, dahdi-linux 2.2.0.2 on Centos5. how could i troubleshoot that?
13:59.38bidossessiusing a TDM410P
14:00.21ManxPower-workhipitihop, if you don't answer the call and don't run any applications that answer the call, then the call should not be answered
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14:01.36ManxPower-workHappy Alexander Graham Bell Day!
14:01.45[TK]D-Fenderhipitihop: Incoming call look like to the provider?  They called YOU.  Whats for them to "look at"?
14:01.55icekManxPower-work: this same problem, http://pastebin.com/XGHExgTC
14:02.07ManxPower-workicek, what is the output of "core show uptime"
14:02.11[TK]D-Fendericek: pastebin you DAHDI configs
14:02.27icekcore show uptime
14:02.27icekSystem uptime: 1 minute, 1 second
14:02.27icekLast reload: 1 minute, 1 second
14:02.57icek[TK]D-Fender: http://pastebin.com/p6ybBLiu
14:03.03ManxPower-workicek, I have no more ideas.  If you are telling the truth, then I have no more ideas.
14:03.11hipitihopManxPower-work, hmm, makes sense, no different to me dialing my local ATA, if it does not answer, the incoming call is never completed.
14:03.54[TK]D-Fendericek: prilocaldialplan=unknown
14:04.01[TK]D-Fendericek: add this below the other one
14:04.30hipitihopManxPower-work, so is it posisble to setup a dialplan in such a way that I can enable and disable such a dial without changing the extensions.conf each time ?
14:04.44ManxPower-workhipitihop, yes.
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14:05.15[TK]D-Fenderhipitihop: Yes, make an exten that will toggle a consistent value like an AstDB entry.  Check for that entry in your inbound extens.
14:05.34[TK]D-Fenderhipitihop: "core show application gotoif" , "core show function DB"
14:06.05icek[TK]D-Fender: this same
14:06.16icekManxPower-work: thx for help
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14:06.22tzafrirbidossessi, what exact error message do you get when you try to dial out?
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14:06.53bidossessitzafrir, Everyone is busy/congested at this time (1:0/0/1)
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14:07.18neurosysany polycom gurus in the house? :P
14:07.32ManxPower-workneurosys, I'm sure there are.
14:07.50[TK]D-Fender~8ball any polycom gurus in the house?
14:07.51infobotAbsolutely.
14:08.00neurosysheh
14:08.00[TK]D-Fenderinfobot: has SPOKEN
14:08.16neurosysTK, I didnt see you on the userlist ;)
14:08.35hipitihop[TK]D-Fender, sounds a little advanced but I guess in the deep end I go .. will tackle with fresh brain tomorrow...
14:08.55icek[TK]D-Fender: any ideas ?
14:09.15neurosys[TK]D-Fender:  I have a dozen 501's that try to dial out at DT after the 1st 3 digits. I checked the digitmapping, I cant see any issues. Can i msg you the digitmap and tell me if im missing something?
14:09.31icekManxPower-work: i can calling, but always see 3 warning ;/
14:09.32[TK]D-Fendericek: idea = show me you updated configs... don't just say "didn't work"
14:09.32ManxPower-workneurosys, post your digitmap to the channel, it's only one line,.
14:09.36neurosysk
14:09.42neurosys[2-9]11|0T|011xxx.T|[0-1][2-9]xxxxxxxxx|[2-9]xxxxxxxxx|[2-9]xxxT|[1-8]xx
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14:09.57hipitihop[TK]D-Fender, .. is there any danger since in this proposed setup asterisk will relay (sorry if wrong term) the call to my mobile, that if the mobile drops out, the inbound call stays connected, clocking up call charges ?
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14:10.11ManxPower-workneurosys, which first three digits?
14:10.19plundraCan I "kick out" a logged in manager?
14:10.26plundra(To make it reconnect)
14:10.47icek[TK]D-Fender: http://pastebin.com/xb2FKJek
14:10.48[TK]D-Fenderhipitihop: If the mobil drops, wht wouldn't the call to it drop?
14:10.54neurosysWell.. if i try to dial from DT 305-324-8811, It pushs the 305 instantly and gives me an error (since there are no 3 digit exts aside from the 1xx)
14:11.20tzafrirbidossessi, 0 busy, 0 congested, 1 not available
14:11.41ManxPower-workneurosys, since you are not using "9" or similar for outside line and since you are not requiring a 1 for outside calls, you will have to deal with timeouts.
14:11.56tzafrirnext thing I would try is to add some debug messages in the function available() in channels/chan_dahdi.c
14:12.01[TK]D-Fendericek: Ok, no idea...
14:12.12hipitihop[TK]D-Fender, in theory yes, in which case * will see it as that phone hanging up and it should hangup too .. I probably need a Hangup() after the Dial()
14:12.28[TK]D-Fenderhipitihop: that would be a good idea....
14:12.49neurosysmanxpower: Ok, what if i simple change the [1-8]xx to 1xx. then any 10 digit not starting with 1 should pass correctly?
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14:12.56hipitihop[TK]D-Fender, I simply wondered if there were other special precautions one should take in the diaplan for such situations.
14:12.59tzafrirbidossessi, if that function returns 0, the channel is not available. It has various possible places where it can return that value. I wonder which of them applies
14:13.16ManxPower-workneurosys, I would use 1 to dial outside.  What ranges are your extensions.
14:13.21tzafrirbidossessi, another sanity check:  dahdi show channel NN
14:13.34tzafrirdo you have '0' in InAlarm: ?
14:13.39[TK]D-Fenderhipitihop: if the call actually drops, you don't need "hangup"
14:13.43neurosysManxPower-work:  100 thru 110
14:13.48[TK]D-Fenderhipitihop: thats more for if it doesn't answer
14:13.52ManxPower-workneurosys, well that was pretty stupid.
14:14.25neurosysManxPower-work:  lol I came into the situation with the handsets already programmed to 3 digit exten
14:14.37ManxPower-workneurosys, sucks to be them.
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14:15.15neurosysManxPower-work:  so taking out the [1-8] range and making it 1 only wont work?
14:15.45ManxPower-worktry this: [2-9]xx[2-9]xxxxxx|011xxx.T|1xx|911
14:15.54bidossessitzafrir, http://pastebin.com/er7ZC6f6
14:16.05hipitihopManxPower-work, [TK]D-Fender once again, thanks for letting me pick your brains
14:16.08ManxPower-workthen dial all outside calls as area code + phone number.  add the 1 if needed by your carrier in your dialplan
14:16.20bidossessitzafrir, inAlarm: 0
14:16.28tzafrirbidossessi, InAlarm: 0 , so not that problem
14:16.30hipitihopgnite all
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14:16.58neurosysManxPower-work:  ok thanks! I dont need the range and X for 10-digit?
14:16.58ManxPower-workhipitihop, you'll need 911T at the end instead because you still have overlapping dial patterns
14:17.12ManxPower-workneurosys, huh?
14:17.26neurosysManxPower-work:  [2-9]xxxxxxxxx?
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14:17.40ManxPower-workneurosys, that's a crappy pattern for USA PSTN calls.
14:17.47ManxPower-workwhich is why I replaced it
14:18.37ManxPower-work<PROTECTED>
14:18.46neurosysManxPower-work:  Ahhhh!
14:19.01neurosysManxPower-work:  Gotcha. I didnt notice the missing |
14:19.25ManxPower-workneurosys, some day you'll not notice something that causes a major security issue.
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14:19.55neurosysManxPower-work:  I'm quite sure I will. Watch out for nuclear missles ;)
14:20.15ManxPower-workneurosys, not at all, just watch for $10,000 phone bills.
14:20.37neurosysManxPower-work:  Would you like the IP? :)
14:20.59ManxPower-workneurosys, do you have allowguest=no in sip.conf?
14:21.13mallchinhi guys, is there any way to enable outbound calls when doing a graceful stop?
14:21.39[TK]D-Fendermallchin: "stop when convenient" <-
14:21.39ManxPower-workmallchin, Only if you code it in the dialplan.
14:21.59neurosysManxPower-work:  Of course. I dont allow rouge sip connections
14:22.12mallchin[TK]D-Fender: thanks, I notice this can take many hours until server stops, I'll look into it
14:22.32ManxPower-workmallchin, what you want to do is a complex set of dialplan programming.
14:23.04mallchinManxPower-work: to reject incoming calls? I tried PRI code 44 but it returns busy to the caller
14:23.30ManxPower-workmallchin, what is wrong with that? and why did you pick 44?
14:23.32neurosysManxPower-work:  PS: Thanks for your help
14:23.39neurosys:)
14:23.50mallchinManxPower-work: 44 seemed the best option, another developer chose it
14:24.16ManxPower-workwhat do you WANT to happen when you reject the call because of a pending restart?
14:24.36mallchinManxPower-work: I have 5 circuits as part of a supergroup, rather than returning busy I'd like the calls to flow to another circuit in the supergroup, which they don't if it returns busy
14:24.52ManxPower-workmallchin, 44 is not "BUSY"
14:24.57mallchinManxPower-work: have it route to another circuit
14:25.16mallchinManxPower-work: what is 44?
14:25.27mallchin(I know this is a RTFM question)
14:25.42ManxPower-workmallchin, Requested Circuit/Channel not Available.
14:26.02ManxPower-workmallchin, does calls roll over now when one of your PRIs are busy?
14:26.44mallchinManxPower-work: we've never reached capacity so don't get busy, but they do round robin between all circuits
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14:26.54mallchinManxPower-work: should a circuit go down, calls do not route to it
14:27.26mallchinManxPower-work: I'ld like to mimick this behaviour for new incoming calls on a graceful restart
14:28.15ManxPower-workmallchin, you can't do that unless your telco is set up to redirect calls to your other PRIs
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14:28.44Polysicshello
14:28.49rikstaHi guys, using asterisk 1.6.1 I have been happily using Set(CDR(mydbfield)=myvalue) for a long time. I just create a varchar field in the cdr table in mysql. I have replicated this for the latest 1.6.2.5 and the value is not set... I cannot find anywhere in the documentation which states that this syntax has change. Has it?
14:29.16Polysicsthis is tricky: i have clients calling each other, but when one rejects a call, it gets reported as busy which is imho incorrect
14:29.19ManxPower-workmallchin, you could try Hangup(3), but what your carrier does for each code is up to the carrier.
14:29.33mallchinManxPower-work: the telco is setup to do so, at least they should be
14:29.36Polysicsi am using plain Dial extensions with no Answer before or Hangup after
14:29.40ManxPower-workPolysics, most phones send back busy
14:30.05PolysicsManxPower-work, so there is no way to have something else sent?
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14:30.32mallchinokay thanks for the help guys, I'll do some more research
14:30.37mallchin:)
14:30.55ManxPower-workriksta, all significant changes beween major Asterisk versions (and upgrading 1.6.1 ro 1.6.2 is a major revision change) should be documented in UPGRADE*.txt
14:31.06ManxPower-workmallchin, you can send back any code you want.
14:31.41[TK]D-FenderPolysics: `thats up to the phone
14:31.47ManxPower-workPolysics, I guess you could replace your phone with some other phone.  But the PHONE is sending back the busy, not ASTERISK.
14:32.01Polysicsok, understood
14:32.02Polysicsthanks
14:32.15mallchinManxPower-work: it's possible sending the correct code will do the trick, but as you note, it depends how the telco handles the code, and we use several telcos
14:32.24ManxPower-workPolysics, we usually disable phone based call forward, DND, and directories and use server based ones.
14:32.27Polysicsi noticed that when i had extensions Answer before Dial, this did not happen
14:32.47mallchinManxPower-work: I'll have to confirm the configuration there end, and what code to send them to have them re-direct the call to another circuit
14:32.50ManxPower-workPolysics, what does happen then?
14:33.01PolysicsManxPower-work, i have no choice of client as we are using Zoiper Web in a browser based thing
14:33.04mallchin*their
14:33.15Polysicsthe call gets properly rejected, at least as far as the events I see
14:33.20Polysicsnot reported as busy
14:33.31ManxPower-workPolysics, that is not a helpful answer.
14:33.52ManxPower-workA helpful answer would be something like DIALSTATUS is ?? or HANGUPCAUSE is ?? or sip debug shows SIP response ??
14:34.00Polysicsit was also horribily phrased :-)
14:34.16rikstaManxPower-work, yeah I cannot see anything relevant in there and want to know if anyone is using Set(CDR.... with a custom field in 1.6.2 before i filed a bug
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14:35.10PolysicsManxPower-work, this will make me look bad, but is there any way to debug a Sip call, having a single call logged somewhere?
14:35.19Polysicsor do i have to wade through SIP output every time?
14:35.24ManxPower-workno, but you can "sip debug peer XXXX"
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14:37.10Skeeter-ariel_, with you spectralink, if your customer walk a long way into the boat or buidling and he switchs AP, you lost the signal, is there anyway to bypass that?
14:38.20ariel_Skeeter-: we use there SVP servers and we have all the AP's configured with the same SSID, we do not have any drops going from ap to ap
14:39.04ariel_In fact they never know when they move from ap to ap.
14:39.17Skeeter-my AP got the same SSID and encryption, im not sure what the SVP is gonna change
14:39.21Polysicsok, from what I am seeing, nothing is wrong with asterisk
14:40.01Polysicsif i use Answer before Dial, it... answers before dialing, thus not sending a "connection is up" signal at the proper time, ie. when the other person picks up the phone
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14:40.12ariel_Skeeter-: in our case the SVP is the one that keeps the call route so if one ap drops it QoS seamlessly moves to the next available AP
14:40.18Polysicsso call rejection works properly as the call is not rejected, but hung up
14:40.41Polysicsi would say the proper behaviour is without Answer, ie. if a call is rejected, it is rejected and that's all
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14:41.11Polysicsis Hangup after Dial needed/recommended?
14:41.57ariel_if a call is rejected there has to be something in the dial plan to account for it.
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14:44.00Polysicsariel_, so Hangup does that?
14:44.18ariel_what is your next priority in the dial plan?
14:44.37Skeeter-ariel_, so the svp has nothing to do with disconnecting, must be my AP that are not set propely? i talk over with the guy that installed them and he told me that it was normal to lose a ping while switching APs
14:44.44ariel_you can send it ot vm, hangup, dial another extension what ever you want it to do
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14:46.00ariel_Skeeter-: phones are not pinging, there only sending rtp over the net in this case they just switch. No drop nothing they can or should hear.
14:46.31ariel_svp in our setup gives them a 2nd IP that is used for the rtp
14:47.00Skeeter-ariel_, then switching APs must not be why the phones disconnect, it happens about 1-2 times a day
14:47.14ariel_diconnect from ?
14:47.39Skeeter-thats ironic
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14:49.08ariel_argh network just took a dump at work.
14:49.26Skeeter-ariel_, they are in the middle of a call and then the call ends on both END and the spectralink states Press End.
14:50.44ariel_my suggestion is call Polycom support.  Only time that happens is if our users go into the freezer or area that there is not coverage
14:51.02ariel_not/no
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14:51.42ariel_Skeeter-: what ap's are you using?
14:52.04Skeeter-wrt54gl with ddwrt
14:53.55ariel_do they support WMM
14:54.14Skeeter-ariel_, sure, the phones would even boot/connect
14:54.23ariel_no not same
14:54.49ariel_WMM is based on 802.11e Enhanced Distributed Coordination Access (EDCA). Wi-Fi networks that implement WMM optimize the allocation of shared network resources among competing applications by prioritizing media access depending on the traffic type. This approach brings flexibility in networks that have concurrent applications with different latency and bandwidth requirements.
14:55.26ariel_http://www.polycom.com/global/documents/support/setup_maintenance/products/voice/Best_Practices_Guide_to_Deploying_SpectraLink_8020_8030_Wireless_Telephones.pdf
14:55.45Skeeter-ariel_, ddwrt offers it but the router cant hardwarly do it?
14:56.03ariel_then you need the SVP
14:57.13ariel_the SVP Server is responsible for providing packet prioritization and timed release for specific time slot deliveries to all wireless phones.
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14:59.30Skeeter-ariel_, wow, have you ever check the code of those SVP server?
14:59.43ariel_yes there based on Linux
14:59.55ariel_I have one here in my lab
15:00.00Skeeter-ariel_, and it is pretty basic
15:00.04ariel_and almost every ship has at least 2 of them
15:00.15ariel_yes actually they are very basic
15:00.28Skeeter-ariel_, and expensive
15:00.36ariel_but there great and auto failover works
15:00.42ariel_yes expensive
15:01.01Skeeter-I worked with it abit, and i foudn no use, but it sounds like it provides a bit of stability
15:01.22ariel_But when you need your phones to stay up and it's used in a commercial use it's well worth the cost
15:01.54ariel_But WMM if done correctly does the same thing
15:02.00Skeeter-ariel_, i called Speactlink support, they told me over and over to get a SVP Server, i got one, then they told me, check your settings and bla bla bla, they dont have a technical support team, u get always the sales team
15:02.12Skeeter-ariel_, ok
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15:02.18ariel_We have tested Cisco 1200 with there updated firmware and they also work very well
15:02.48Skeeter-ariel_, how much are these?
15:02.55Skeeter-ariel_, and what do they require
15:03.45ariel_Skeeter-: well since we deploy 80 to 100 phone a month, we are able to get directly to there Speralink support team.
15:04.08ariel_but I have no idea how much they are
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15:04.17Skeeter-ok
15:04.20ariel_I have not priced anything in over 2 years
15:04.40Skeeter-ariel_, u just play with the stuff they give u
15:07.51Skeeter-ariel_, thanks for the tips BTW
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15:13.59Skeeter-ariel_, do you only polycoms wiresless phone or u use sth else?
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15:16.56ariel_we only use the Polycom
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15:17.31ariel_We tested last year with the Cisco's but there not rugged enough for there cost
15:18.18coppiceI think the cisco handsets could be used as hammers. they have the weight
15:18.34JhirleyPOLLing question, Trixbox or AsteriskNow ?
15:21.41zambai want to transport audio at a high quality over the internet with low latency.. which solution/protocol should i look into for this?
15:22.09zambai'm thinking some voip or rtp based stuff?
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15:22.40zambai've been using icecast for streaming, but that introduces latency
15:24.42AkiraaIs anyone making VoIP devices with open source or otherwise programmable firmware?
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15:34.27ariel_Jhirley: I will never ever, no matter what use TrixBox.  So my vote would be for AsteriskNow
15:34.59fish-bulbAkiraa: I think Snom's firmware is opensource
15:35.11Jhirleyariel_  why do you feel so strongly about that ?  never, ever (even).
15:35.25Akiraawhat's the difference between Trixbox and AsteriskNow
15:35.40ariel_It is no longer a real Open Source product
15:35.45Akiraaas I understood, Trixbox used to be called AsteriskNow, until Digium asked them not to
15:35.51ariel_there support is really bad
15:35.53fish-bulbAkiraa: AsteriskNOW has a lot less crap in it
15:36.10ariel_no trixbox came from Asterisk in a Box
15:36.38ariel_But a commercial company took them over
15:36.50Akiraaor Asterisk@home
15:36.56ariel_that's it
15:36.58[TK]D-FenderAkiraa: No, Trixbox used to be called Asterisk@Home
15:37.01fish-bulbAkiraa: not quite, Trixbox used to be Asterisk@Home
15:37.03JhirleyAsterisk@home I think.
15:37.56ariel_AsteriskNOW uses a normal setup of Freepbx, trixbox uses one that is very customized
15:37.58[TK]D-Fender[10:35]<Akiraa>what's the difference between Trixbox and AsteriskNow <_Trixbox uses forked versions of the components, includes a shit--ton of other crap and does evil stuff like phoning home...
15:38.30Akiraaok, I thought it was merely asterisk with freepbx strapped onto it (and some extra modules)
15:38.46Akiraausing it now for testing, btw
15:39.02ariel_it's limited in it's basic setup Trixbox CE
15:39.23ariel_But over all I still stay as far away from it as I can.
15:39.26fish-bulbAkiraa: that is exactly what they want you to believe, but they really mean a ton of extra modules that are not necessary
15:40.31[TK]D-FenderAkiraa: For testing of what?
15:40.35Jhirleywho is "they" ?
15:40.48Akiraa[TK]D-Fender: for a 20 terminal system
15:40.57Akiraaand 4 final FXO lines
15:41.06Akiraacurrently at 10 terminals and 2 FXO
15:41.53[TK]D-FenderAkiraa: What contitutes "testing"?
15:42.27Akiraausing in an office environment, with a fallback to standard telephony in case things go awry
15:42.39[TK]D-FenderAkiraa: that isn't "tesing", that's "using"
15:42.50[TK]D-FenderAkiraa: you are in production <-
15:42.52Akiraaa temporary setup, though
15:43.13Skeeter-[TK]D-Fender, do you have any scholarship or cerfitication, no offense but u always seems to use the perfect words and the best questions
15:43.31[TK]D-FenderSkeeter-: Common sense is very rare.  I have that.
15:43.59Skeeter-[TK]D-Fender, You would make a good Jedi i guess... uhh
15:44.13[TK]D-FenderSkeeter-: This is not the channel you are loking for...
15:44.17[TK]D-Fenderwaves his hand
15:44.35Skeeter-hahaha
15:44.55Jhirleyuhm, play nice you all .  in my bestest ingles
15:46.23ariel_argh, I hate it when people feel that just adding things to a dhcp3.conf and not putting comments as to what they added and checking on what it does.
15:49.18manxpower[TK]D-Fender: How many years have you been involved in working with Asterisk?
15:49.54Nuggetariel_: we've started tracking /etc and /usr/local/etc in git on production machines for that reason.
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15:50.02Nuggetit's a great solution
15:50.47ariel_yes I just looked at the history file and found the person, now to kill him, many times over.... just for fun
15:50.49jameswfhai ho
15:51.12Nuggetyou want to borrow my LART?
15:51.18ariel_lol
15:51.32ariel_I am going to use a spoon due to it will hurt more
15:51.40NuggetI just got it back from the shop, it's all balanced and hydroclaved.
15:51.58jameswfremembers an episode of OZ involving a spoon
15:52.15manxpowerariel_: a simple informative message to everyone in the company explaining the cause of the network problems might go a long way.  Let the user's peers beat them senseless.
15:53.13ariel_that would be a normal response but this is on a ship and they should not have done anything on it or even tried to help them.
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15:53.46manxpower[TK]D-Fender: one of my new polycom idle messages: "When taking a report from a customer don't run in circles, don't scream and shout! Write it down, just like in school! Write it down so you don't look like a fool!"
15:53.47ariel_goes and changes all passwd's and user access
15:54.46jameswfremember kids your not that smare hire a consultant and go back to coloring elephants purple and watching VinDiesel movies
15:54.46mechbangirchi can someone tell me which response is responsible for billing OR is it rtp stream which is used for billing?
15:54.57jameswfs/smare/smart/
15:55.54tzafrirNugget, I guess etckeeper is for you
15:56.08mechbangirci meant SIP response
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15:56.29Nuggetspiffy, thanks, I'll take a look
15:56.42manxpowermechbangirc: none of that has anything to do with billing.  You should bill based on your CDRs
15:57.42[TK]D-Fendermanxpower: about 6
15:58.20mechbangircmanxpower: i have contract with someone and have problems of FAS it is actually the other party billing i am concerned about
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15:59.18mechbangircmanxpower: my carrier is providing fake FAS i am trying to implement some technique in asterisk to tackle this issue
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16:02.11mechbangircso i need to know how the other party knows that callee has picked up the phone on my side?
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16:14.37manxpowermechbangirc: You can't fake Facilities Associated Signaling.
16:15.08manxpowermechbangirc: look at SIP debug to see what is sent when call is answered.
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16:15.41mechbangircmanxpower: i want to avoid fake False Answer Supervision. it is my carrier who is doing it
16:16.17manxpowermechbangirc: you will fail.
16:16.36mechbangircmanxpower: 200 OK is sent but I read somewhere that it is actually rtp stream which is used for billing. i am confused
16:16.37manxpowermechbangirc: they are not faking the answer supervision.  They are ACTUALLY answering the call.
16:16.58manxpowermechbangirc: RTP is audio, you don't "use it for billing"
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16:17.20mechbangircmanxpower: yes they answer it as soon i make it even before trying to connect it to callee
16:17.42coppicewhy do people love cooking up new acronyms like FAS which conflict with perfectly well established acronyms like FAS?
16:17.42manxpowermechbangirc: you will fail at what you are trying to do.  Either change carriers or convince your existing carrier to STOP DEFRAUDING you by answering all calls.
16:18.41manxpowercoppice: I think because * users don't know much about TCA (Telecom Common Acronyms) or FDA or RCTP
16:18.51manxpowercomes up with a few more random acronyms
16:19.11coppiceyou mean a FMRA
16:19.21JhirleyThose aren't really telcom, try fxo or 1fb or even centrex
16:19.30mechbangircmanxpower: i almost implemented it. i wait the incoming leg of call and originate a new call to the callee i then waitforsilence and waitfornoise combinations. later when it is assured that the callee picked up i bridge two legs
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16:19.59manxpowermechbangirc: I wish you the BEST of luck.
16:20.13ariel_I like bets, PETA = People Eating Tasty Animals....;-)
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16:20.49Jhirleythey guy from the price is right just gave them a few million dollars.
16:20.58leifmadsenBob Barker
16:20.59mechbangircmanxpower: thanks
16:21.00manxpowermechbangirc: your carrier is siill defrauding you.
16:21.13coppiceFalse Acronym Substitution
16:21.26mechbangircmanxpower: i dont care i have some bulk package from them it does not cost me extra
16:21.37manxpowermechbangirc: then why do you care?
16:21.51manxpowerYour carrier's answer will cause you all sorts of issues.
16:22.18mechbangircmanxposwer: it is the other party with whom i have voip contract i need to send them right signalling for their billing otherwise contract will be blocked
16:23.56mechbangirci dont care about my carrier and they dont care about themselves
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16:46.46HavokmonI'd like to provide a button on a web page that will allow the user to connect to a predefined conference number on * - without the user needing a login.  Does anyone know if that's possible?  Are there 'registration-less' clients?
16:46.47Kobaz~daylightsavings
16:46.52Kobazmm
16:46.56Kobazwhen does it start this year
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16:48.55Kobazlooks like the 14th
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16:49.13[TK]D-FenderHavokmon: Who said you need to register?
16:49.22bochis it possible to send DTMF during a bridged call ?
16:49.28nightrid3rlast saturday of march
16:49.47dddhhm
16:49.51dddhmorning
16:50.15[TK]D-Fenderboch: yes
16:50.40freezeyhow can i check to see if meetme is an installed application with my asterisk install?
16:50.55[TK]D-Fenderfreezey: "CORE SHOW APPLIACTION MEETME"
16:51.01[TK]D-Fender-typos & caps
16:51.32freezeyok sweet
16:51.33freezeyits there
16:51.35freezeyjust not working lol
16:51.38boch[TK]D-Fender, i know D option to Dial() is useful, with it will send DTMF just after bridge, i need to wait a few seconds
16:52.02[TK]D-Fenderboch: boch then add some delay
16:52.30boch[TK]D-Fender, how is the question
16:52.42[TK]D-Fenderboch: D()wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww1234567890)
16:53.07freezey[TK]D-Fender: so this is what i have so far. http://pastebin.ca/1832083 and it errors out with http://pastebin.ca/1832084
16:53.13boch[TK]D-Fender, what is the delay for a w ? a second ?
16:53.14sbrathIs it possible to create a Hint that will respond as ONHOLD when a specificed Queue has callers waiting?
16:54.03[TK]D-Fenderfreezey: that dialplan has jack shit to do with the CLI output
16:54.15freezeyyeah realized that
16:54.18[TK]D-Fenderfreezey: any more apples & oranges to share & compare?
16:54.23freezeymeh nope
16:54.24freezeylol
16:54.34freezeythats just what happens when i dial the conf number
16:54.59[TK]D-Fendersbrath: yes.  make a custom hint and a monitoring app to toggle it as their status changes
16:55.09[TK]D-Fenderfreezey: you have a dialplan problem
16:55.36freezeyk
16:55.57freezeyanyway possible to point in a direction where i could possibly try and figure this out?
16:56.34freezeylike i see the setup where it calls that office-iguanas in my extensions.conf
16:59.25manxpowerboch: are you using an analog fxo port?
17:00.03bochmanxpower, depends, could be fxo as a sip or iax peer
17:00.13[TK]D-Fenderfreezey: you don't seem to have a clue what your own dialplan is doing and put an extension where it needs to be...
17:00.19[TK]D-Fenderfreezey: want a direction?...
17:00.22[TK]D-Fender~book
17:00.23infobot[~book] Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF at http://www.asteriskdocs.org --- HTML at http://astbook.asteriskdocs.org or see ~buybook
17:00.24[TK]D-Fender^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
17:00.29[TK]D-Fenderfreezey: Head that way
17:00.56freezeyyeah figured that much
17:00.58freezeythanks
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17:03.03sbrath[TK]D-Fender: monitoring App, is that something outside asterisk?
17:03.20[TK]D-Fendersbrath: yes
17:04.09sbrathany sugestions on one to look at? VracBazar came up as a option,
17:04.16[TK]D-Fendersbrath: Get coding <-
17:04.52sbrathSo basicly a endless loop perl script checking the AMI for queue members and toggle the lights...
17:06.34manxpowerboch: analog fxo acts differently from SIP and IAX when it comes to considering the called answered.
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17:08.42Polysicshello
17:08.47Polysicsok, one last thing before i call it a day
17:08.59Polysicsright now i can call a SIP user even if he is already in a call
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17:09.29Polysicsis it possibile to have someone calling a user that is already talking to be put on hold somehow
17:09.45Polysicswith a message saying "you are waiting to be connected"?
17:10.20Polysicswhich probably has a better name
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17:14.07leifmadsenPolysics: sounds like a queue :)
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17:14.34Polysicsleifmadsen, would that mean i need a queue with one agent for each SIP account?
17:14.50Polysicsi do have queus up in the DB, so it would not be that bad
17:17.06Polysicsat worst, i need a SIP account to ring busy if it is already on a call
17:17.12Polysicsis that what call-limit is for?
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17:26.48Polysicsis a queue the only way to do that?
17:27.04[TK]D-FenderPolysics: Or you could try.... DIALPLAN
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17:27.31GeminizerHello all.  Is there a way to get "Elapsed Time" of a channel using AMI ?
17:27.48Polysics[TK]D-Fender, i don't get waht you mean - obviously stuff is done using dialplans :-)
17:27.50[TK]D-FenderGeminizer: Yes
17:28.14[TK]D-FenderPolysics: Check phone. If buy = wait.  Play message.  Try again.
17:28.27Geminizer[TK]D-Fender:  is "Elapsed Time" considered to be a variable?
17:28.27Polysicswould that require AEL?
17:28.50[TK]D-FenderPolysics: Of course not
17:29.11[TK]D-FenderGeminizer: Go lok at the list of available vars
17:29.18[TK]D-FenderGeminizer: but that's not how I'd check
17:29.25Polysicsi am missing the "check phone" part
17:29.40[TK]D-FenderPolysics: "core show application chanisavail" <-
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17:37.47Polysics[TK]D-Fender, the wiki says ChanIsAvail is not supposed to be used to detect if a line is in use or not
17:38.27QwellThe wiki is wrong.
17:38.44PolysicsQwell, i am happier that way :-)
17:38.47QwellThat's kinda the entire point of ChanIsAvail
17:38.59[TK]D-FenderQwell: Notice : Incoming non-personal attack with course language.
17:39.08[TK]D-FenderPolysics: FUCK THE FUCKING WIKI
17:39.11[TK]D-Fender:D
17:39.15[TK]D-Fenderexhales
17:39.25Polysicscan i come out from under my desk now?
17:39.31[TK]D-FenderPolysics: GO BACK!!!!!!
17:39.42[TK]D-Fender</bark>
17:39.48Polysicsit puts the lotion on its skin or it gets the hose again?
17:40.17Polysicsok, so ChanIsAvail it is
17:41.35roecan someone clarify for me how a T-1 that has been split to do half phones (12 channels) and half data looks at layer 1?  Is it two hand-offs or is some kind of IVAD router needed?
17:42.29Polysicsthre is DEVICE_STATE too
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17:43.23Polysicsat this point i should take a look at AEL, i suppose
17:43.33Polysicswould probably make syntax easier
17:43.45Polysicstoo bad Adhearsion does not work with 1.6...
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17:45.46[TK]D-FenderPolysics: total waste
17:45.59[TK]D-FenderPolysics: this less than half a dozen lines of dialplan.
17:46.36Polysicsdoes AEL add overhead?
17:47.00[TK]D-FenderPolysics: Yes.  AEL does nothing you can't do yourself in extensions.conf directly, and even les
17:47.37Polysicsi guess the step after extensions.conf would be AGI then
17:47.50Polysicsnot wanting to look at it right now, just wondering
17:48.45carrarHELLO and Happy morning to everyone :)
17:50.48codefreeze-lapPolysics: well, yes and no, AEL inserts some comments for debug; a very small amt of overhead. Otherwise, it's about as tight as hand-written dialplans.
17:51.34Polysicsi think i will stay with dialplans until i need AGI
17:51.44Polysicsi was liking Adhearsion a lot, really
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17:56.52Polysicsand am still missing for a simple system to interact with aMi based on events, which Adhearsion was providing
17:59.35bmoraca_workroe: at layer 1, it's four wires.
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18:00.34[TK]D-Fenderroe: the same as one that isn't split :)
18:00.40[TK]D-Fenderbmoraca_work: Sometimes :)
18:00.49roebmoraca_work, and the T-! card in the asterisk box just sees the 12 channels instead of 24?
18:01.14[TK]D-Fenderroe: No... there is no "see.  You need to configure it to match or "bad things" happen
18:01.25bmoraca_workroe: the T1 card in asterisk uses whatever channels you tell it to
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18:02.01bmoraca_workroe: a T1 that is configured like this will have a MUX on either end.  a T1 is simply 24 channels that you can do whatever you want with them.  are you trying to get Asterisk to see both parts of the T1?
18:02.23Geminizeris it possible to access CDR variables using AMI?
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18:05.22seanbrightyes.  use GetVar
18:07.09CobrazHello!
18:07.33CobrazI am tring to setup an SIP server with Asterisk, i keep getting this error: "...Not a local domain"
18:07.44seanbrightno you don't
18:09.07CobrazHow do i fix this problem? I am using Bria in my office now, and it keeps telling me that the service is unavailable. Can't register...
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18:10.48SomethingISODDHello everyone does anyone know of any Java SIP or IAX phone that will work on a WIFI TV Mobile phone.
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18:14.40roebmoraca_work, no, we are adding a T-1 for 12 lines and the T-1 provider offered to bond the other half of that T-1 to our existing data T-1.  The details of how that actually works eludes me a bit
18:14.50roe(practically, not theoretically)
18:15.50CobrazGetting error when trying to register SIP client with Asterisk.. (Error msg: ".... Not a local domain").. Can you help? :-)
18:16.02bmoraca_workroe: they'll put a MUX on your side that will split the single T1 in from the provider into two 12 channel T1s, one for your PBX and one that will be part of an MLPPP group with your other data T1.  if they're not providing the DSU for your existing data T1, you'll need to upgrade your router to take advantage of it
18:16.32bmoraca_work(probably)
18:16.37roeI believe they are providing the DSU
18:16.53bmoraca_workthen they'll need to upgrade it themselves, which usually isn't an issue
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18:17.08bmoraca_worki've never done MLPPP with varying speed T1s...could be interesting
18:17.14[TK]D-Fenderbmoraca_work: Or you can jsut let your T1 card do it in *
18:17.33bmoraca_work[TK]D-Fender: good luck bonding that with an existing data T1
18:17.48[TK]D-Fenderbmoraca_work: that is much rarer.
18:18.10[TK]D-Fenderbmoraca_work: I've seen that with IP-PRI's, but not anything CBR
18:18.40bmoraca_workroe: "integrated T1s", as these used to be known, are usually implemented where the voice is done over SIP to the provider now.
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18:19.57roewe are reluctant to SIP to the outside world as we don't trust their SLA and QoS
18:20.35CobrazPlease help? I'm googling my ass of here :P Could be nice with a chat about it ^^,
18:20.51bmoraca_workroe: the difference between these types of services and an ITSP is that these types of services are entirely ON-NET
18:21.11roe!ON-NET
18:21.23roeisn't there a bot in here?
18:21.36bmoraca_workroe: so, you're not relying on anyone else's network.  therefore, you have end-to-end QoS and it is possible for the telco to offer and enforce an SLA
18:21.56bmoraca_workroe: basically, your voice traffic, even though it is SIP, never actually leaves the telco's network via IP
18:22.42roeso if I were confident in their abilities to manage our data T-1 line with a high availability and high QoS I should trust my SIP traffic to them as well?
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18:24.58cweagansanybody in here have experience with the Cisco 7940 phones? I cannot get my handsets to register with Asterisk....looking at the sip debug messages right now (they're pasted at http://pastebin.com/Lwakk56F)
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18:25.30bakermdDoes this look invalid to anyone?  Getting an error... exten => 30,n,Set(savestatus=${CURL(http://callblast.stryden.net/listener.php?function=save&call_id=${callblastid}&response=${RESPONSE})})
18:25.58[TK]D-Fendercweagans: nowhere in there do we see a register attempt
18:26.18cweagans[TK]D-Fender: heh, whoops. I'll go track that one down real quick
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18:26.27cweagansI thought I grabbed it.. =/
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18:28.21afo0lhi, i setup an ISDN bound asterisk server, using a hfc card and zaphfc, now asterisk creates the channels etc, but dialing out is impossible
18:28.36afo0lUnable to create channel of type 'DAHDI' (cause 0 - Unknown)
18:28.52afo0li tried finding some info on the web, but documentation is rare
18:29.10afo0lwhat is a good way to check if the isdn card itself works?
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18:31.49CobrazDoes anyone know of a nice guide how to setup SIP accounts in Asterisk? Since noone can help me :P
18:31.59tzafrirafo0l, what version of asterisk?
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18:32.48afo0l1.6.2
18:32.52afo0lubuntu
18:33.17LemensTSanyone know of a sip provider that i can put on an ata to do faxing?
18:33.21tzafrirroe, you meant:  ~ON-NET . But the bot does not know this either
18:33.38roetzafrir, thanks
18:34.12tzafrirafo0l, do incoming calls work?
18:34.20afo0li'm just trying that
18:36.31cweagans[TK]D-Fender: http://pastebin.com/R4abfREt   <--registration is at the top. It looks like the phone tries to register, and asterisk tries to respond with a 200, but for some reason, that device is unreachable?
18:37.59[TK]D-Fendercweagans: looks fine.  Cisco isn't answering the OPTIONS packetsm so turn off qualify <-
18:38.10[TK]D-Fendercweagans: * OK's the register
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18:38.26cweagans[TK]D-Fender: turn off qualify in sip.conf?
18:38.36[TK]D-Fendercweagans: yes
18:38.43cweagansokay, I'll try that
18:39.32afo0ltzafrir: no, incoming calls dont work either, and won't show up in the log
18:39.49afo0lso it must be about the config of the isdn card itself ?
18:39.58tzafrirafo0l, what's the output of:  lsdahdi
18:40.44afo0lit lists 3 spans, stating each spans channels are (In use)
18:40.53afo0l2 isdn cards, one dummy
18:41.34afo0lshould i query you the whole output?
18:41.40afo0lthanks for helping me out
18:42.03tzafrir~pb
18:42.03infobot[~pb] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org ,  http://bin.cakephp.org/ , or apt-get install pastebinit
18:42.46afo0lhttp://pastebin.org/108778
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18:44.50cweagans[TK]D-Fender: hmm. the phones are registering now (I had to set qualify=no and nat=no), but I'm still not able to call to/from the phones, or out through my VoIP provider. Watching the sip debug messages go by, I see a lot of Restransmitting messages. A set of them about every 10 seconds (they look very similar to the ones in my first paste)
18:45.12[TK]D-Fendercweagans: Know what I see?
18:45.33magicblaze007voicepulse just increased my dues from $11 a month to $14 a month...have others also seen dues increases in recent times?  (sip/pbx service)
18:45.34cweagans[TK]D-Fender: hard to say. enlighten me?
18:45.35cweagans:)
18:45.44[TK]D-Fendercweagans: NOTHING
18:46.00cweagansROFLMAO
18:47.00tzafrirafo0l, what's the output of 'dahdi show channels' in the command line of asterisk? (rasterisk)
18:47.37cweagansokay. there's a lot of messages that fly by when I do 'sip set debug ip 192.168.0.5'. I'm not really sure what to paste...what would be of use? I'm pretty sure these phones are trying to kill me :)
18:47.56afo0lhttp://pastebin.com/jphEfmvF
18:47.57afo0lthis
18:47.59magicblaze007ITEM/ACCOUNT/REGULATORYCOMPLIANCEFEE: at $2.95 / which voip provider is recommended here? I need 4 incoming lines and i am willing to pay for outgoing calls...
18:48.21afo0lomg
18:48.41afo0li think i may have messed up the contexts
18:49.24cweagansmagicblaze007: not sure what you're asking, but speakeasy has been pretty good to me :) $35/trunk/month, so you'd be looking at $140/month, unlimited calling.
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18:50.17magicblaze007cweagans: I pay $11 for a phone number + 4 parallel incoming lines. They just increased it to $14. I am looking for something cheaper than that, if not, i'll pay $14 :) $140 sounds excessive to me for now.
18:50.40GeminizerDo you you know when you run 'core show channel [CHAN]' you get a whole dump of info?  How can I use AMI to get values under the "-- General --" section ?
18:51.00cweagansmagicblaze007: oh wow, who's that through?
18:52.00Geminizerin other words, is there another way to get those values (without running 'core show channel')?
18:52.13magicblaze007cweagans: voicepulse.com
18:52.49magicblaze007cweagans: if you sign up for them, please let me give you a referral. that way they give me $5 credit.
18:53.10cweagansokay. send me whatever info I need to do that. my nick @gmail.com
18:53.20cweagansI may or may not do that in the near-ish future :)
18:53.42magicblaze007i understand, its a big pain to change providers :)
18:54.00afo0ltzafrir: http://pastebin.com/jphEfmvF
18:54.45tzafrirafo0l, do those contexts really exists? from-pstn and fr-pstn?
18:54.50tzafrir(in the dialplan)
18:54.55magicblaze007cweagans: am sending you a referral.
18:55.17magicblaze007its $15 for me if you sign up, 1st month is free :)
18:55.48afo0ltzafrir: fr-pstn does exist, the other doesnt, but channels 4 and 5 arent in use
18:55.54afo0ldoes that matter?
18:56.44tzafrirafo0l, if you want incoming calls: yes
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18:57.05afo0lboth have to exist even it only one is used?
18:57.09afo0lok i'll fix it up then
18:57.15tzafrirhmm... sorry, I didn't read the last line. it doesn't matter
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18:57.54afo0ldo you know of any linux tool i could use to test the isdn card itself?
18:58.19afo0land is it normal that if i plug the "landline" into the NT set card i get a kernel panic?
18:58.26Kobazno
18:58.37Kobazcontact tech support for your card manufacturer
18:59.00tzafrirafo0l, in the CLI, run: core set verbose 3
18:59.14tzafrirthen try an incoming call and show the trace of it
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19:08.02timholumhello I am wondering if there is any way for asterisk to detect studer dial tone on an incoming line?
19:09.34afo0ltzafrir: nothing at all, no log entry and no ringtone
19:10.10tzafrirafo0l, pri set debug 1 span 2
19:11.07afo0lspan for "fr-pstn" is 1
19:11.21afo0lah
19:11.31afo0li set debugging there as well
19:11.49afo0lits "Sending set Asynchronous Balanced Mode Extended"
19:13.29afo0lperpetually
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19:21.38afo0ltzafrir: i got 2 identical cards in there, one NT one TE, if i plug the cable in the wrong one i instantly get a kernel panic
19:21.47afo0land i'm not 100% sure which is wich
19:21.57afo0lmight be i need to go back to start
19:22.04afo0land try a different driver
19:22.07afo0lor kerneö
19:26.43Polysicsare tehre that many AGI and AMi differences between a.4 and 1.6?
19:26.57Polysicsnot in the number of commands, more fundamental ones
19:27.06Polysicsso far i have noticed . intead of |
19:27.13Polysics*,
19:28.26timholumDoes asterisk have any modules or addon's that can detect stutter dial tone?
19:28.33timholumI have looked an I cant find any
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19:37.38manxpowertimholum: no.  It's not the function of a PBX
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19:38.17manxpowerPolysics: you mean other than the ones listed in the UPGRADE*.txt files included in the Asterisk tarball?
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19:38.56manxpower| .vs. , is not an AMI or AGI think.  It's an ASTERISK thing.  Go re-read those UPGRADE*.txt files.
19:39.14spenguin[work]heh w00t https://developer.skype.com/silk
19:39.41timholummanxpower, thanks for the info
19:40.46Polysicsmanxpower, is that the reason why most of the third party stuff for 1.4 simply states "this doesn't work with 1.6, period"?
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19:49.07Vrtigo1How can I set asterisk to answer a DID and initiate a monitoring session and not hang up until the calling party hangs up?
19:52.02manxpowerVrtigo1: Depends on what you mean by "monitor".
19:52.20Vrtigo1The command "monitor"
19:52.20manxpowerIn Asterisk app_monitor records calls.
19:53.25manxpowerVrtigo1: Answer the DID, run monitor.
19:53.32manxpowerNo real way to prevent the caller from hanging up.
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19:53.45Vrtigo1Yes, thanks.  That works beautifully for all of about 1 second, then asterisk hangs up.
19:54.01manxpowerVrtigo1: then you are doing something wrong
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19:54.40Vrtigo1Any insight as to what that might be?  Kind of hard to go wrong with answer, then monitor...\
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19:54.52manxpowerVrtigo1: pastebin the cli output
19:54.53manxpower~pb
19:54.54infobot[~pb] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org ,  http://bin.cakephp.org/ , or apt-get install pastebinit
19:54.56Vrtigo1k
19:56.09Vrtigo1http://pastebin.ca/1832359
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19:56.39manxpowerExecuting [3868680470@inbound:3] Set("SIP/vitel-inbound-00000154", "CALLFILENAME=20100310-145829-inbound-to-868680470-from-"LDIES PROF GLF" <3862744925>") in new stack
19:56.47manxpowerThat does not look much like a valid filename to me.
19:56.57Vrtigo1It works fine in other contexts.
19:58.11manxpowerso, if you touch CALLFILENAME=20100310-145829-inbound-to-868680470-from-"LDIES PROF GLF" <3862744925>  I strongly doubt if it will work
20:01.14manxpowerthe extra quotes, the <  > shell redirection, your filename is a mess.
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20:03.48leifmadsenhuzzah!
20:05.28manxpowerleifmadsen: you joined the Marines?
20:05.32leifmadsennever
20:05.48Vrtigo1manxpower: changed the filename, same result http://pastebin.ca/1832369
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20:07.44Vrtigo1basically, i need some way to tell asterisk not to hang up when it runs out of things to do
20:08.17Vrtigo1if i turn autofallthrough off, are there any negative implications other than needing to make sure i clean up after calls properly?
20:10.26[TK]D-FenderVrtigo1: what is * supposed to do at that point?
20:10.51[TK]D-FenderVrtigo1: When you run out of things to do why the hell would you just sit around forever?
20:11.17Vrtigo1[TK]D-Fender: continue recording the call
20:11.26Vrtigo1perhaps I should clarify what I am trying to do...
20:11.33[TK]D-FenderVrtigo1: What call?  Who's talking there?
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20:12.08[TK]D-FenderVrtigo1: So far there is jsut the inbound call sitting round not being prompted for anything.
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20:12.33[TK]D-FenderVrtigo1: You may as well use Record() at that point.
20:12.48Vrtigo1I want to be able to conference in a DID that goes to my * server when I want to record a call.  For example, i'm in my car and I want to make a call that I want to have recorded, i dial my * DID, then conference in the 2nd party, and I want * to record the conversation.
20:13.50Vrtigo1Essentially, I just want * to answer the call, then record the conversation until the call is disconnected.
20:13.55manxpowerVrtigo1: double check your format of the monitor command for your version of Asterisk?
20:14.18manxpower"core show application monitor"  I hope you didn't use voip-info.org for find out the valid options for Monitor
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20:14.47Vrtigo1manxpower: is there a version specific command reference available?  I did use voip-info.org.
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20:14.52manxpowerVrtigo1: then stiop using the wrong application
20:15.05[TK]D-FenderVrtigo1: then use Record() <
20:15.09manxpowerVrtigo1: YES!  IN THE CLI "core show application X" where X is the application
20:15.34manxpowerVrtigo1: that is your ONLY source of official docs for the specific version of Asterisk you are using.
20:16.26Vrtigo1manxpower: ok, thanks.  according to those docs, monitor should do exactly what I want.
20:16.53Vrtigo1"The channel's input and output voice packets are logged to files until the channel hangs up"
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20:17.35[TK]D-FenderVrtigo1: there is no outbound <-  Just use Record
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20:18.52Vrtigo1[TK]D-Fender: right, i don't care if there's no outbound because everything i want recorded is inbound.  I'm looking at the record docs and it says that the recording will be cancelled in the event the channel hangs up, which is exactly what I want to avoid.
20:19.15Vrtigo1[TK]D-Fender: also with Monitor, I can tell it to record only inbound
20:20.27[TK]D-Fender...
20:20.33[TK]D-FenderVrtigo1: there IS ONLY INBOUND
20:20.44[TK]D-FenderVrtigo1: You call INTO IT.  There is no 3rd party!
20:21.12Vrtigo1[TK]D-Fender: I see what you're saying, but doesn't outbound refer to the connection between * and the caller?
20:21.27leifmadsen[TK]D-Fender: chill
20:21.38[TK]D-FenderVrtigo1: And DUH... if you hang up it'd BETTER stop recording or you'll be recording non-stop 24/7 with nothing on the other end.  Wnat to see your HD free space disappear for no good reason?  There's a start
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20:22.20[TK]D-FenderVrtigo1: You only use Monitor when you're about to do something like a Dial following it.
20:22.44[TK]D-FenderVrtigo1: or a MeetMe, etc... but that one has its own options to isolate the entire conference
20:23.03[TK]D-FenderVrtigo1: But it is not at all appropriate to use it for a 3-way merged-in call
20:23.13Vrtigo1[TK]D-Fender: ok
20:23.48[TK]D-FenderVrtigo1: Your 3-way only has audio coming from the device that called in.  The local channel that you merge in isn't contributing audio.
20:24.50Vrtigo1[TK]D-Fender: i'm a bit confused, i thought the "local channel that I merge in" and the "device that called in" were the same.
20:25.15Vrtigo1[TK]D-Fender: or are you referring to the monitor command as a channel that i'm merging with the inbound call?
20:26.09[TK]D-FenderVrtigo1: Your phone is the device.  it was already on a call.  That's parties A & B.  A then calls in to that exten and it needs to record A & B.  Not itself <--- A passes on B's audio in the call to that exten.
20:26.51leifmadsenVrtigo1: When you place a call with A (to B) and the A channel triggers the Monitor(), the Monitor()'ing (recording) is going to follow the channel that was created by phone A
20:26.53[TK]D-FenderVrtigo1: so audio from both is all "inbound" to that exten you 3-way.
20:27.14leifmadsenVrtigo1: whatever Phone A hears, is what the recording is going to contain
20:27.51Vrtigo1leifmadsen: whatever Phone A hears, plus any audio coming from Phone A, I assume?
20:27.57leifmadsenof course
20:28.21leifmadsenwhatever the original channel that Phone A created which launched the Monitor() application
20:28.30leifmadsenif that channel goes away, then the recording stops
20:28.32[TK]D-FenderStill don't use monitor, because that call has nothing to do sitting around empty...
20:28.33Vrtigo1leifmadsen: right, i get that.  so it seems to me that I should be able to Monitor() that and just tell monitor to only record the inbound
20:28.58Vrtigo1[TK]D-Fender: yes, i think that's the root issue i'm running into, the timeout being hit
20:29.03leifmadsenVrtigo1: in that case, you'd only hear what Phone A said
20:29.06[TK]D-FenderVrtigo1: Monitor = both directions.  but the way you call that exten, * isn't playing any audio.  There is nothing to record.
20:29.24[TK]D-FenderVrtigo1:vrtSo just use Record()
20:29.37leifmadsen[TK]D-Fender: huh? even I have no idea what you're saying
20:29.56leifmadsen[TK]D-Fender: he wants to conference in someone into a conversation, but he only wants to record the audio from one direction (is my understanding)
20:30.12[TK]D-Fenderleifmadsen: he's using a 3-way call to bring the recording exten into the mix.  Not used as a precusor to a Dial <-
20:30.26Vrtigo1leifmadsen: i think i've got everyone sufficiently confused.
20:30.33leifmadsenVrtigo1: fuck ya :)
20:30.39Vrtigo1leifmadsen: :P
20:30.40SomethingISODDHello everyone does anyone know of any Java SIP or IAX phone that will work on a WIFI TV Mobile phone.
20:30.43leifmadsenplus I was working on something and only caught the last half of it
20:30.54leifmadsenSomethingISODD: nope
20:31.17leifmadsenVrtigo1: I'd start again
20:31.23Vrtigo1leifmadsen: here's the high level...i want to be able to initiate a call from my cell to *, then conference another party in on the existing call from my cell
20:31.36SomethingISODDok ty leifmadsen
20:31.54Vrtigo1leifmadsen: so, a 3-way call with my cell talking to *, and another party
20:31.58leifmadsenVrtigo1: ok, then I'd use a feature code to do that (features.conf) -- DTMF based
20:32.14bmoraca_workis anyone here familiar with reselling AT&T copper or know of any CLECs that will do that on a wholesale basis?
20:32.26[TK]D-FenderVrtigo1: So far your description fails to include 3 people <-
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20:32.52Vrtigo1[TK]D-Fender: i never said anything about 3 people, i said a 3-way call with * being one of the dialed parties
20:32.53[TK]D-FenderVrtigo1: Try again.  Where does the first call originate from?  Where does the 2nd call come from?
20:32.56leifmadsenVrtigo1: assuming the first leg of the call was a direct call to your cell phone -- then that is not possible
20:33.08leifmadsenVrtigo1: oh I think I get it
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20:33.33Vrtigo1leifmadsen: the root objective is to be able to record a conversation between myself and one other party
20:33.40leifmadsenVrtigo1: Mom calls your cell. You then call your Asterisk box to record the call. You then hit "conference" on your cell.
20:33.43[TK]D-Fenderleifmadsen: Vrtigo1 So you want the call to look like its coming from your cell (because it is), and bring in just for recording, right?
20:33.52[TK]D-FenderVrtigo1: ^
20:33.55leifmadsenVrtigo1: then yes, just call Asterisk which answers with Record()
20:34.01Vrtigo1leifmadsen: exactly, although i would probably call * first, and call the second party after
20:34.08leifmadsenVrtigo1: ya, order doesn't matter
20:34.13[TK]D-FenderVrtigo1: Which leaves us precisely where I told you before.  RECORD(), not MONITOR()
20:34.21leifmadsenVrtigo1: just call Asterisk, have it do a Record(), then conference in your other party
20:34.34leifmadsenVrtigo1: you will end up recording both people in the call -- there is no way around that
20:35.03[TK]D-FenderVrtigo1: No way around... because its your CELL that passes both audio as its own
20:35.11Vrtigo1leifmadsen: thanks, the only other question I have is how can I make * finish recording when I hang up, the docs say it will cancel the recording when that happens
20:35.41[TK]D-FenderVrtigo1: It won't "canel" anything.  It will simple end recording.
20:35.46leifmadsenVrtigo1: option 'k'
20:35.50[TK]D-FenderVrtigo1: Did you think you'd lose it somehow?
20:35.52leifmadsen[TK]D-Fender: not true
20:36.00[TK]D-Fenderleifmadsen: Oh?
20:36.03Vrtigo1[TK]D-Fender: "If the user hangs up during a recording, all data will be lost and the application will terminate."
20:36.04leifmadsenoptions:      k: Keep recording if channel hangs up.
20:36.21leifmadsenVrtigo1: option 'k' (may not be available on 1.4... not sure when that was added?)
20:36.24Vrtigo1leifmadsen: perfect, that's exactly what I needed, just didnt read down far enough
20:36.29leifmadsenVrtigo1: :)
20:36.33leifmadsenVrtigo1: hope that helped
20:36.44leifmadsen[TK]D-Fender: see how much more efficient that was?
20:36.48Vrtigo1leifmadsen: yep, i think i should have everything i need thank you both
20:36.56[TK]D-Fenderleifmadsen: Who is there to record if they hang up?
20:37.03[TK]D-Fenderleifmadsen: that makes no sense whatsoever
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20:37.18[TK]D-Fenderleifmadsen: Record indefinately and chew up HD?
20:37.21leifmadsen[TK]D-Fender: Who is there to record if they hang up?  I don't understand your question
20:37.23Vrtigo1[TK]D-Fender: there's no one there to hang up, but it gives me the opportunity to do something with the recording after they hang up
20:37.24leifmadsen[TK]D-Fender: NO!
20:37.37Vrtigo1[TK]D-Fender: err, to record i mean
20:37.40leifmadsen[TK]D-Fender: if you hang up, by default the Record() application throws away the recording
20:38.02Vrtigo1leifmadsen: so then i'd just stop the recording upon hangup correct?
20:38.05leifmadsen[TK]D-Fender: unless you end it with a DTMF to signal you're done, or use the 'k' option, which ends the recording, and keeps it
20:38.12[TK]D-Fenderleifmadsen: I think I see the linguistic snafu <-
20:38.15leifmadsenVrtigo1: when you hangup, the recording will stop
20:38.36[TK]D-Fenderleifmadsen: Keep the file recorded to that poitn, not "keep it alive and recording indefinately" :)
20:38.41leifmadsen[TK]D-Fender: I don't see how you could... this is very clear to me:  "If the user hangs up during
20:38.41leifmadsena recording, all data will be lost and the application will terminate.
20:38.41leifmadsen"
20:39.02leifmadsen"Keep *the* recording..." might be better
20:39.06leifmadsenin fact I'll fix it now
20:39.21leifmadsenit's not "Keep recording indefinitely"
20:39.27[TK]D-FenderVrtigo1: I believe I agree with leifmadsen  that "k" is what you'll want.
20:39.28leifmadsenbecause that would make no sense
20:39.43Vrtigo1leifmadsen: i had the same thought - i thought that's what it meant as well, and that i would have to initiate some process to stop the recording upon hangup
20:39.55leifmadsenVrtigo1: heh no, I guess I never read it like that :)
20:39.59[TK]D-Fenderleifmadsen: Ok, we're all good with this... it had 2 distinct and entirely valid interpretations.... I of course chose the WRONG one ;)
20:40.00leifmadsenI will update the documentation
20:41.02[TK]D-Fenderleifmadsen: Thanks...
20:41.27[TK]D-FenderVrtigo1: Ok, so crisis aborted. Record() w/ "k"
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20:45.28jshriverGreetings everyone
20:45.51jshriverwhen editing the extension.conf  is there an extern command to dial if the previous dial attempt failed?
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20:46.10jshriverBasically doing this now:
20:46.13jshriverexten => 0,1,Playback(transfer,skip)            ; "Please hold while..."
20:46.13jshriverexten => 0,2,Dial(SIP/300&SIP/301&SIP/312,15,rt)
20:46.13jshriverexten => 0,n,Voicemail(u300)            ; Voicemail (unavailable)
20:46.35jshriverBut want to add another Dial() after the 2nd line so if noone at those 3 extensions pick up, it'll try dialing another set of extensions
20:46.52leifmadsen[TK]D-Fender, Vrtigo1: of course this is only a problem on 1.6.2 and trunk -- no idea why the information is different
20:47.18Vrtigo1leifmadsen: i'm running 1.6, figures
20:47.19leifmadsen[TK]D-Fender, Vrtigo1: in 1.6.0, and 1.6.1, it says, "Keep recorded file upon hangup"
20:47.29[TK]D-Fenderleifmadsen: I won't ask.. you're working on fixing it.  I don't care about problems you're already taking care of :)
20:47.31leifmadsenVrtigo1: 1.6 doesn't mean anything, as there is no such thing as 1.6
20:47.34Vrtigo1leifmadsen: 1.6.2.2 specifically
20:47.42leifmadsenVrtigo1: 1.6.2 != 1.6
20:47.45jshriveralso what is the 3rd field in extern mean?
20:47.59leifmadsen1.6.0, 1.6.1, and 1.6.2 are all separate branches much like 1.2 and 1.4 are separate
20:48.05leifmadsen~asterisk-versioning
20:48.06[TK]D-Fenderjshriver: huh?
20:48.15leifmadsen~asteriskversioning
20:48.16infobotasteriskversioning is, like, http://www.asterisk.org/asterisk-versions
20:48.20Vrtigo1leifmadsen: i didn't realize that
20:48.26leifmadsenVrtigo1: please read the above
20:48.35jshriverin the extensions.conf files what is the 2nd field mean ?  extern => 0,X,Dial()  what does X mean?
20:48.52Vrtigo1jshriver: the priority
20:49.02leifmadsenjshriver: http://astbook.asteriskdocs.org
20:49.07leifmadsenjshriver: see chapter 5
20:49.10jshriverok
20:49.35jshriverif you have multiple extern => dial() entries will it try dialing if noone answers the previous dial() attempt? or do I have to add something else
20:49.55leifmadsenjshriver: it will continue one if there is a busy, or timeout happens
20:49.58leifmadsens/one/on/
20:50.17leifmadsenjshriver: again, answers obtained via documentation, that's why it's there :)
20:50.24jshriverok
20:50.43jshriversorry I really loath having to take care of this system not my field was dumped on me a year ago, so learning just enough to get it working
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20:50.52jshriverer keep it working lol
20:50.56jshriverthanks for the book will help
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21:38.46redaxhi.
21:40.28redaxI have an extension where a gate opener operates, I have to call the extension, and enter a PIN code like: Dial(SIP/900,,D(ww1234))
21:41.04redaxI'd like to make the same application, just without picking up the caller.
21:41.45redaxhow one could call an extension and play some DTMF without accepting the incoming call?
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21:46.36nightrid3rhow is the gateopener going to read the dtmf whitout accepting the call?
21:53.37[TK]D-Fenderredax: Use M() and don't accept the call
21:58.24Kobazi need a nap
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22:07.08hackeronI'm trying to configure a polycom 501 phone with asterisk and I'm getting: "WARNING[2243]: chan_sip.c:12673 check_auth: username mismatch, have <reception1>, digest has <###4######" -- what does that mean?
22:08.19hackeronwhere in the polycom configuration do I change this "digest"?
22:09.29Kobazyour sip username on your polycom is set wrong, very weong
22:09.52hackeronit's set to reception1
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22:10.02Kobazthe digest is in the sip packet it's getting for registration/calling
22:10.04hackeronwell, I don't have username, I hace auth user id and address
22:10.08Kobazhackeron: apparently not
22:10.50hackeronKobaz: when I open the configuration it says Address: reception1 - Auth User ID: reception1 - what should I change?
22:11.02Kobazyou're using the web interface?
22:11.15Kobazthat doesn't look like a valid address
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22:11.44hackeronKobaz: yeah, the web interface
22:11.57Kobazyou should provision using ftp. it's much easier
22:13.27hackeronKobaz: it's set up to get the bootrom and app using http and my config file is empty - let me try putting the auth user id in the config file
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22:14.19Kobazreg.1.displayName reg.1.auth.userId reg.1.auth.password reg.1.server.1.address reg.1.server.1.port
22:14.23Kobazyou'll need hose
22:14.24Kobazthose
22:16.02hackeronKobaz: so I just put that 1 line in my empty file?
22:16.37hackeronKobaz: oh wait, so each on separate line, like say reg.1.displayName Reception\n etc?
22:16.44Jhirleywhat do folks in irc land recomend for telecom billing management ?
22:17.40hackeronKobaz: would you mind pastebinning a simple sample config or do you have a link that shows the syntax and config options?
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22:22.20adncmy system-time is ok, but still the value of strftime  gives wrong time back. for example this variable holds a time that differs by two hours CALLFILENAME=${STRFTIME(${EPOCH},GMT+1,%d%m%Y-%H%M)}.${CALLERID(num)}.${MACRO_EXTEN}
22:22.35adncalthough my system time is gmt+1
22:22.42adncwhat could be wrong?
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22:24.12LemensTSI can call my cell phone from sip phone and see cid, but i can call an att landline and it says unknown. Any thoughts on that?
22:25.03LemensTSI mean just the number, not passing the actual caller name
22:26.15Kobazhackeron: http://pastebin.ca/1832610
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22:27.01KobazLemensTS: your land line provider is not pulling name from the callerid dip service it's using
22:27.53hackeronKobaz: thanks!
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22:28.54Kobazmake sure you adjust linekeys and etc for your specific phone
22:29.09bjhaidi am trying to reload the diaplan after editing my extensions.conf file, but the diaplan reload command does not work
22:29.27Kobaz~details
22:29.28infobotIf you want help on a topic, you HAVE to say more than "it doesn't work, help!" or else you'll get no help whatsoever.  Give as many details as you can or else no one can give any suggestions.
22:30.31hackeronhmm, when I try to dial out, I see: "[Mar 10 22:30:07] WARNING[3681]: app_dial.c:1745 dial_exec_full: Unable to create channel of type 'DAHDI' (cause 0 - Unknown)"
22:30.47Kobazhackeron: your dahdi config is broken. or your line is down
22:31.08hackeronKobaz: this is my dahdi show status and channels: http://pastie.org/864091
22:31.38hackeronand dahdi_cfg -vvv looks fine
22:32.29Kobazls -al /dev/dahdi
22:32.38Kobazas it readable by asterisk?
22:33.11hackeronKobaz: seems to be: http://pastie.org/864096
22:34.23Kobazpaste the rest of your configs too
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22:35.08hackeronKobaz: http://pastie.org/864101
22:35.25doneirdoes anyone have a link to a decent .ael vim syntax file, the one on voip-info.org is a bit under developed
22:36.48doneirhttp://vim.sourceforge.net/scripts/script.php?script_id=1900 seems to be the best bet
22:37.47Kobaztoo bad it's not a sangoma card, you could have also gotten voltage levels to see if the card is working/connected right
22:39.07Deeewaynedoes anyone know of an AudioCodes vendor that doesn't suck when it comes to support ?
22:39.40Kobazi've been getting my stuff from e4
22:39.42hackeronKobaz: hmm, well, if I do dahdi_monitor I can see every ring when I dial the number
22:40.40hackeronKobaz: but the call is not being picked up by asterisk, I just see CID errors and I get that "unknown error" when I dial out -- any ideas at all what I could try?
22:40.52Kobazoh right you were here the other day too
22:40.57Kobazdid you talk to digium support?
22:41.14Kobazconfigs look fine, dahdi output looks fine... check your syslog/dmesg for errors
22:41.28hackeronKobaz: no, had to disconnect asterisk and plug in a normal phone temporarily
22:41.39hackeronKobaz: just plugged the lines back in as it's out of hours now :)
22:42.06Kobazi've never worked with uk stuff... it looks like a card/driver issue
22:42.21Kobazbut in the us... all that would work
22:42.28hackeronKobaz: ok, I'll give them a ring now (if they're still open)
22:42.39[TK]D-Fenderhackeron: Where do we see the failed call?
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22:43.01[TK]D-Fenderhackeron: You seem to be showing us everything but the dead body.
22:43.08Kobazyeah... one more bit
22:43.09Deeewayne[TK]D-Fender, its right there ---> .
22:43.12Kobazhackeron: what are you dialing
22:43.15[TK]D-Fenderhackeron: Don't ask for an autopsy until you do
22:45.13wpbrownI have a general question:  Have you guys ever had a issue with Asterisk/Sangoma PRI card where cell phones can't dial extentions very well?  The IVR says "Invalid number"  If so where should I begin looking to tweak this issue?
22:45.34Kobazwpbrown: asterisknow? freepbx?
22:45.56wpbrownAsterisk Open Source package..
22:46.06Kobazso what's this ivr you speak of
22:46.07wpbrownNever installed from the 123 cd's before.
22:46.36Kobazwpbrown: did you download the build the asterisk source from the website?  is that what you're saying?
22:46.40drmessano[TK]D-Fender: Except if the box bursts into flames.  Then we can assume it's an OD, skip the autopsy and go straight to the condemnation.
22:46.42wpbrownCorrect.
22:46.58Kobazokay so... you'll need to give more details
22:47.00wpbrownThis version has been in service since July.
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22:47.39wpbrownSay for instance if you were to call my office.. from a cell you would dial a ext 6016 for instance.. asterisk will tell you that you dialed a invalid ext
22:47.49Kobazdtmf reading issues
22:47.50[TK]D-Fenderwpbrown: How about actually providing version #['s of things?
22:48.03wpbrownsure one second .. let me log into the box
22:48.17hackeronKobaz: anything I dial shows that error instantly
22:48.29hackeron[TK]D-Fender: in asterisk -Rvd
22:48.29Kobazbut what specifically are you dialing
22:48.38hackeron[TK]D-Fender: dead body?
22:48.41Kobazif you are dialing DAHDI/foobar, it's obviously not going to work
22:48.54Kobazyou can x out the phone number, but show the first part
22:49.03hackeronKobaz: dialing DAHDI/131
22:49.06Deeewaynehackeron, if you pastebin something there is a chance a couple people might actually look at what is happening
22:49.18[TK]D-Fenderhackeron: You seem to have some comprehension issues here....
22:49.23Kobazhackeron: your dial string is wrong... you need to specify a group
22:49.30hackeron<PROTECTED>
22:49.31[TK]D-Fenderhackeron: SHOW US THE ENTIRE DAMN CALL
22:49.33hackeron<PROTECTED>
22:49.36hackeron[Mar 10 22:49:10] WARNING[3700]: app_dial.c:1745 dial_exec_full: Unable to create channel of type 'DAHDI' (cause 0 - Unknown)
22:49.40Kobazokay that's better
22:49.41Deeewayneeep
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22:49.57bjhaidI am a newbie having problem reloading the diaplan after editing the extensions.conf file, diaplan reload command does not work
22:50.23hackeron[TK]D-Fender: heh, sorry, I did earlier - forgot not everyone seen it :)
22:50.39manxpowerWhoo!  Digium just sent me an e-mail thanking me for registering my product!  Since I've not registered a Digium product in at least 4 years.......
22:50.51Deeewaynemanxpower, congratulations
22:50.53Deeewayne:-)
22:51.04drmessanoIts never too late to say "Thank you"
22:51.07Kobazhackeron: and you've tried other channels... and you've confirmed you have dialtone on all channels?
22:51.08manxpowerI hope their other departments move faster than product registration
22:51.16[TK]D-Fenderhackeron: "do it again, and include "core show channels concise" and "dahdi show channel 2" just prior
22:51.59[TK]D-Fenderbjhaid: who is the owner of the file currently?
22:52.29Kobazbjhaid: like i said before... you'll have to provide more details... a console output paste would be a good starter
22:52.31hackeronKobaz: a normal phone has dialtone and I tried 2 channels (there are only 2 lines)
22:52.32bjhaidi have the roots right, its in etc/asterisk folder
22:53.14hackeron[TK]D-Fender: http://pastie.org/864127
22:53.30wpbrown[TK]D-Fender, Kobaz  Asterisk 1.6.0.9
22:53.44bjhaidkobaz: my problem is that my modem does not have drivers for linux so i cannot paste console output
22:54.25adncmy system-time is ok, but still the value of strftime  gives wrong time back. for example this variable holds a time that differs by two hours CALLFILENAME=${STRFTIME(${EPOCH},GMT+1,%d%m%Y-%H%M)}.${CALLERID(num)}.${MACRO_EXTEN}
22:54.43adncwhat could be wrong=
22:55.25[TK]D-Fenderbjhaid: MODEM?  huh?
22:55.50[TK]D-Fenderbjhaid: And what rights on on the other files?  Who is * running as?
22:56.07[TK]D-Fenderadnc: You aren't showing enough
22:56.18adnc[TK]D-Fender, what else could i show?
22:56.40[TK]D-Fenderadnc: That isn't a complete valid syntax.  There is no app.. no exten.  we do not see the complete attempt to see what DID match, etc
22:56.51adnci see
22:57.07manxpoweradnc: you don't know what's important for [TK]D-Fender to see.
22:57.08hackeron[TK]D-Fender: any ideas?
22:57.18manxpowerso pastebin everything
22:57.22bjhaidFender: asterisk is running as root
22:57.22[TK]D-Fenderadnc: Don't show me a catalog picture of your car and then ask what's wrong with the one you actually own.
22:57.30adnchehe
22:57.31[TK]D-Fenderhackeron: Not sure...
22:57.35KavanSanyone use voicepulse and have occasional DTMF issues?
22:57.43Kobazhackeron: how's digium tech support coming along?
22:57.57hackeronKobaz: called them, they said to register the card
22:58.08Kobazdid you register it?
22:58.09hackeronKobaz: just about to take apart the PBX to get the serial number
22:58.13Kobazah
22:58.26Kobazthat's why i like dealing with sangoma
22:58.28adnc[TK]D-Fender, http://pastebin.com/0VD1EvJX
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22:58.40adnchere i use this variable
22:58.58manxpowershouldn't the serial number be on the paperwork that came with the card?
22:59.03[TK]D-Fenderhackeron: Signalling Type: FXS Kewlstart <--- is this legit where you are?
22:59.25Kobazhackeron: the other day he told me he's got another box with the same settings hooked up to the same telco
22:59.30hackeron[TK]D-Fender: I tried loopstart too and the card won't let me set groundstart
22:59.37[TK]D-Fenderadnc: Where is the complete failed call?  Where are the extens that CALL that macro?
22:59.39hackeronKobaz: yeah, but a few miles away
22:59.53[TK]D-FenderhackAnd difference on loopstart?
23:00.02[TK]D-Fenderhackeron: Any difference on loopstart?
23:00.07hackeron[TK]D-Fender: nope, same
23:00.21[TK]D-Fenderhackeron: I don't see a reason off-hand yet
23:01.06adnc[TK]D-Fender, the exten that calls the macro is there. i'll copy the output from the cli when a call gets in
23:01.20hackeron[TK]D-Fender: any ideas what else I can do to diagnose? -- the lines seem to be OK, a normal cheap analog phone works and I see the rings when I do dahdi_monitor on the line and dial the number
23:01.47[TK]D-Fenderhackeron: REALLY not sure why this isn't working.  go get Digium support in on this...
23:02.05hackeron[TK]D-Fender: ok, just got the serial number, going to file a support ticket, thanks
23:02.05Kobazhackeron: seems like a card/driver issue
23:02.39hackeronKobaz: the official driver didn't work at all, I had to compile from svn trunk not to get kernel oops errors - so yeah maybe
23:02.48[TK]D-FenderKobaz: chan_dahdi is looking fine... the channel dumps OK.  AFAIK * won't wait on dialtone, and this is dumb analog.
23:02.53Kobazi should have asked this forever ago... what kernel version?
23:02.59adncdoes someone know where STRFTIME() gets his values from? from the operating systems environment?
23:03.20manxpoweradnc: what specific values?
23:03.24[TK]D-Fenderadnc: You GIVE it the values.
23:03.44hackeronKobaz: 2.6.31-19-server
23:03.46Kobazhackeron: uname -a
23:03.49[TK]D-Fenderadnc: Go look in the nearest mirror
23:03.50Kobazhackeron: bad
23:03.55Kobazhackeron: too new
23:03.58hackeronKobaz: lol, what?
23:04.13adnc[TK]D-Fender, whats wrong?
23:04.14Kobazdahdi has issues > 2.6.30
23:04.21hackeronKobaz: even svn trunk?
23:04.30Kobazi wouldn't trust svn trunk for production
23:04.58Kobazget the latest 2.6.27 kernel and rebuild dahdi
23:05.16hackeronKobaz: don't think that's available anymore for my distribution (ubuntu server)
23:05.20KobazThe latest stable 2.6.27 version of the Linux kernel is:      2.6.27.45
23:05.37manxpowerHe has a kernel from the future!
23:05.47Kobazwell no... heh
23:05.51KobazThe latest stable 2.6.31 version of the Linux kernel is:      2.6.31.12
23:05.53adnc[TK]D-Fender, what are you talking about looking into a mirror?
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23:06.11Kobazcontinues to finger kernel.org
23:06.23[TK]D-Fenderadnc: YOU pass it the value.  It doesn't get it from "just anywhere" it was a PARAMETER.
23:06.43adnc[TK]D-Fender, yes right, the ${EPOCH} is it, but where does this value come from
23:06.47manxpower[TK]D-Fender: I think it defaults to ${EPOCH} as the time.
23:07.00[TK]D-Fendermanxpower: No... he passed it.
23:07.01manxpoweradnc: epoch comes from the system.
23:07.05adnci see, i should have asked more precize
23:07.05[TK]D-Fender^^
23:07.19Corydon76-digEPOCH comes from all around you.
23:07.29Kobazhaha
23:07.34manxpowerEPOCH has no tomezones.
23:07.39Corydon76-digYou cannot see it, taste it, or smell it, but EPOCH is there all the same
23:07.50manxpowerlike god!
23:07.50Kobazi can see epoch
23:08.01Kobaz1268262478
23:08.01manxpowerwait, sorry.  EPOCH exists.
23:08.30Corydon76-digKobaz: you only see a representation of a snapshot of EPOCH
23:08.50Corydon76-digAs soon as you store EPOCH, it is no longer the EPOCH
23:08.58QwellHow long did EPOCH last?
23:09.00Kobazheh
23:09.05QwellWas it a full second?  A millisecond?
23:09.25Corydon76-digQwell: that depends on whether you're using 1.4 or 1.6
23:09.30Qwellheh
23:09.34manxpowerQwell: 57 years, by mt rough off the top of my head calculations
23:10.00Kobazi think we have 27 years left
23:10.01Corydon76-digmanxpower: 68 years, if you only count the positive part
23:10.12Kobazit's signed right?
23:10.22Corydon76-digYes
23:10.27Kobazsilly coders
23:10.41manxpowerI was using jan 1 1970 thru 2037, which is the date I vaguely recall it blowing up
23:10.53Corydon76-dig2038
23:11.04Kobazcould have doubled the span using unsigned
23:11.19Corydon76-digKobaz: then you couldn't have represented 1969
23:11.22hackeronso wait, dahdi doesn't work on linux 2.6.31?
23:11.26Kobaz"they'll come up with a fix by then"
23:11.31Kobazhmm
23:11.34Kobaztrue
23:11.51Corydon76-digand with 30 year mortgages... that was important
23:11.55Kobazhehe
23:12.30Corydon76-dig(Note that banks had to solve this problem 2 years ago, for the same reason)
23:12.42Kobazmake time_t bigger?
23:13.39Kobazalthough that would completely break anything that blindly uses int's instead of time_t
23:13.59Kobazwe need a time64_t
23:14.12Corydon76-digNo, we don't.  time_t is fine
23:15.04Corydon76-digRemember that int also grows on 64-bit platforms
23:15.29Kobazbut what if you're not on a 64bit platform
23:15.45Corydon76-digThen you shouldn't be managing mortgages
23:15.49Kobazheh
23:16.02QwellCorydon76-dig: Banks won't be using 64-bit systems for another 20 years or so.
23:16.06Qwellat least
23:16.18Kobazwhat if it's running on an 8 bit machine with 4 bit registers written by a 2 bit programmer
23:16.29Corydon76-digQwell: UltraSPARC is already 64-bit
23:16.32drmessanoI cant wait for banks to upgrade to 32 bit
23:16.45[TK]D-FenderKobaz: for a company that can't stand 1 bit of competition...
23:16.52Kobazhehe
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23:18.25Kobazthe problem with switching to a 64bit time, is in the year 584942415385 they'll run into this same problem all over again
23:18.28Kobazand have to move to 128bit
23:20.15leifmadsenlol
23:20.27drmessanoIf you don't take the Y5B problem into account
23:20.40Nuggetlol
23:20.58drmessanoThe sun has enough energy to only last another 5 billion years.  We'll be toast by then.... cold toast.
23:21.20drmessanoNobody likes cold toast.
23:21.27Kobaznope
23:22.02leifmadsenI do!
23:22.09drmessanoCanuck
23:22.09leifmadsenit put it on top of my cold pizza
23:22.09Corydon76-digIf I'm still around when that problem occurs, you're more than welcome to call me up to fix it
23:22.19leifmadsenCorydon76-dig: I'll hold you to that
23:22.36drmessanoCorydon76-dig: I'll submit a bug report a week prior
23:22.45leifmadsenok, reboot time because my alt+tab combo seems to have stopped working.... *groan*
23:23.00drmessanoHe should have restarted the alttab daemon
23:23.01drmessanoDuh
23:23.17drmessanoLinux: There's a daemon for that
23:23.45QwellI'd like to know what console-polkit-daemon is, and why it likes taking 100% CPU
23:23.50Kobazhaha
23:23.52Kobazjust kill it
23:23.55QwellI do
23:24.03Qwelland you know what happens?
23:24.04drmessanocron job
23:24.05QwellNOTHING
23:24.09Kobazit's some sort of auditing tool
23:24.15Corydon76-digQwell: it plays polka music?
23:24.17Kobazyou dont need it
23:24.27Kobazi always have to kill/disable mine
23:24.30Kobazi just delete the binary
23:24.33drmessanokill -somereallybadswitch ?
23:24.34DeeewayneCorydon76-dig, polkit music
23:24.46Kobazit spawns, and all it does is suck up 100% cpu and half a gig of memory
23:24.46QwellKobaz: heh, good plan
23:24.50Qwellyep
23:24.58KobazQwell: i have yet to find the startup rc script where it's spawned
23:25.01Qwellthere's another one that acts stupid sometimes too..
23:25.03drmessanopolkit music to the console.. Shit, someone will want to use that with originate in Asterisk, trust me
23:25.04Qwellsome gnome thing
23:25.22Qwellsomething to do with auth
23:25.55Corydon76-digQwell: A gnome buttplug?  http://www.exotic-erotics.com/store/images/products/gnome-new.jpg  semi-SFW
23:26.13Deeewaynelol
23:26.19Qwellpolkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1
23:26.42drmessanoSafe for Liberal workplaces or barely existent govt jobs?
23:26.57drmessanoOh nice
23:27.08drmessanoOne gnome you don't want to lose
23:27.14Corydon76-digdrmessano: it's not explicitly NSFW, except when you consider what it's for
23:27.37Deeewaynehe looks happy
23:27.44KobazCorydon76-dig: that's a nice gnome
23:27.54QwellKobaz: man polkitd
23:28.06drmessanoCorydon76-dig: Sorta like the ink blot test "Pervert?  You're the one showing me all this porn!!"
23:28.22KobazNo manual entry for polkitd
23:28.34Kobaz# man female
23:28.35KobazNo manual entry for female
23:28.43Qwellpolkitd provides the org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1 D-Bus service on the system message bus.  Users or administrators should never need to start this daemon as it will be automatically started by dbus-daemon(1) whenever an application calls into the service.
23:29.21drmessanoI'd file that as an Asterisk bug, just sayin
23:31.25Kattyhi
23:31.48drmessano"My system regularly hangs with 100% CPU usage.  I am also using Asterisk.  I have attached a copy of my sip.conf"
23:32.07Kobazhaha
23:32.14Kattyfunny.
23:32.34jayteehehe
23:32.38Kattyoh
23:32.40Kattyhi there mister tee
23:32.58Kattyany news? (=
23:33.28manxpowerfunny, but Asterisk recently had a 100% CPU usage issue
23:35.06drmessano1.6 will/would get DoS'ed by a slightly older version of Flash Operator Panel
23:35.26drmessanoThat was a cute one
23:36.30drmessanoI think that's the only 100% CPU issue I have ever had with Asterisk, and it wasn't really an Asterisk issue
23:37.02Kobazi've had several 100% cpu issues with asterisk in 1.4
23:37.39drmessanowill now replace his opinion on 1.4 with "1.6.x releases are nice"
23:37.49drmessano1.6.x releases are nice
23:37.55Kattycan't  say  i've ever had one
23:38.28Kobaz1.6 has been pretty good
23:38.36Kobaza few regression here and there, but my testing picks them up
23:38.46drmessano1.6.x has been light years better than 1.4
23:39.01Kobazat least it finds the regressions i check for
23:40.49hlueseaHii
23:41.01Kattyasl
23:41.08drmessanoHAHAH
23:41.47hluesea:D
23:42.00drmessanom/f?
23:42.02hlueseam
23:42.08hluesea24 m
23:42.09hluesea:P
23:42.17manxpowerKatty: Older than you, as often as possible, cyberspace
23:42.17drmessano*click*
23:42.25hlueseait is very nice irc is the old irc simple :)
23:42.55jayteeolder than dirt, Clinton was President, in exile in Indiana
23:43.08Katty:<
23:43.11Kobazthat's not old
23:43.12Kattyi still love you.
23:43.15Kattyhugs jaytee
23:43.18jayteeaww thanks
23:43.22jayteehugs Katty
23:43.36Kobazanyone remember regan?
23:43.37manxpowerjaytee: must be married, eh?
23:43.46jayteenope
23:43.51Kobazme neither
23:43.57drmessanoMiddle Paleolithic, Yes, Waiting to acquire signal
23:44.39drmessanoReagan or Regan?
23:44.41Kattywell i need to go run soon. before it startsg etting dark out
23:44.47jayteeI remember Regan, Donald Regan? he was Sec of Treasury under REAGAN
23:44.55drmessanoIndeed
23:44.57Kobazheh
23:45.14Kattycheerio (=
23:45.20drmessanotrix
23:46.09[TK]D-FenderKatty: No... clearly Froot Loops
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