IRC log for #asterisk on 20100215

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00:10.19TJNIISo are you using just Asterisk, or FreePBX?
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00:12.09stallioneFreePBX
00:13.13TJNII#freepbx <---
00:14.19stallionenoob here.... Actually I am running both.. are they mutually exclusive? (was using the front end of freepbx to manage Asterisk)
00:14.35stallioneor at least that's what I thought was happening
00:14.46TJNIIThe problem is that freebpx takes asterisk and then adds thousands of lines of config.
00:15.09TJNIIWe don't know or want to know what those configs do, and the problem is almost always in the,
00:15.14TJNIIs/the,/them
00:16.04stallioneI see.. Thanks. will jump over to their channel.
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02:07.51Kattyoh dear lord.
02:07.53Kattysprawls
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02:15.16jayteewhat's the matter, Katty?
02:15.27Kattysooooo full.
02:15.36Kattyit's hard to breathe i'm so stuffed
02:17.11Kattywhen's your dr appt jaytee?
02:17.38jayteefriday afternoon
02:17.54Kattynods
02:18.06jayteefewer dizzy spells today
02:18.12Kattythat's good :>
02:18.27Kattyyou gettin any snow out your way from this snow storm?
02:18.45jayteenot yet, we're suppossed to get a little tomorrow
02:19.07Kattynods
02:19.14Kattyst. louis is gettin snowed on again
02:19.32Kattyso p3nguin's probably gonna get some soon
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02:21.45QbYif I have srvlookup enabled for a peer, and the provider makes a change, why isn't Asterisk looking requerying ?
02:21.50Kattyhi there.
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02:25.04Kattyhot dog. battery powered heated socks.
02:26.19chilicuilhi, I've tried to setup a simple installation using sip channels, right now I can make calls in the Lan and outside to pnst numbers but if they tried to call me (only psnt numbers) the phone always sounds busy, I've enter to the asterisk console with the -rvvvvvvvvvvv parameter, but I see nothing in the logs, where should I look?
02:28.35TJNIIchilicuil: Do you see anything at the console when a call comes in?
02:29.03chilicuilno, nothing at all, TJNll
02:29.36TJNIIDoes "sip show peers" show you being registered to your ITSP?
02:29.56TJNIIActually, I believe "sip show registry" is a better command.
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02:31.49chilicuilI think so, http://chilicuil.pastebin.com/d3beee1e0 , TJNII
02:33.12TJNIIThen I would turn on sip debug (sip set debug) and see what * says when a call comes in.
02:34.18TJNIIYou have 8 accounts with ii2next.com.mx?
02:34.31chilicuilyep, TJNII
02:35.04TJNIIOkay.  Just checking.
02:36.00Kattyhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pjlrrMvdtw <- ahhh, society needs more of this in mainstream
02:43.02chilicuilTJNII, I think I get it, http://chilicuil.pastebin.com/m60e0bab8 , mi IP is not sip:s@192.168.1.72 but it's s@10.9.8.13, is that a problem from my ITSP or it's in my config?, coz I've looked in etc (find . -type f| xargs grep "192.168.1.72") and I get nothing
02:44.01TJNII~sipnat
02:44.02infobot[~sipnat] Quick guide on configuring * + SIP behind NAT : http://www.aocomputing.net/?p=3 , otherwise check the WIKI at http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+SIP+NAT+solutions
02:44.42TJNIIwanders off to get groceries
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02:45.09chilicuilthx a lot TJNII, have a nice day : )
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03:02.51kerxHi, anyone know a way to setup a Test call in *?
03:03.31kerxI need to echo back basically, so I can ensure the microphone is working
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03:09.50p3nguinkatty: We got hit pretty good over the past few hours.  I think it may have stopped by now, though.
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03:12.00p3nguinMy mistake, it's still going.
03:12.40Kattynot sure if its still snowing or not
03:13.00KattyNWS says 1-2 inches possible.
03:13.22p3nguinWe probably have 2 inches already.
03:13.33Kattyzip?
03:14.06p3nguin62864
03:14.25Katty2-4 inches possible
03:14.37Katty50% chance of snow tomorrow
03:18.53ManxPower-workWe are under a winter storm warning
03:19.24Kattyyour area supposed to get much?
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03:42.36phixhey
03:42.39phixI am having some issues
03:43.10krefikwith snow?
03:43.47phixWhen ringing a phone connected to zap (tdm400p card) it picks up, makes a noise sometimes, an echo or nothing, then drops out / disconnects
03:43.50Kattysnow is one very serious issue.
03:44.02phixand sometimes it works :/
03:44.06phixhow can I debug this?
03:44.22Kattythrow snow at it.
03:44.29phixheh
03:44.40phixbut seriousoly :)
03:45.09phixwhat other information you require to help with me this?
03:45.12krefikKatty: don't tell, first store closer than 2km is opened in 1h15m and I got only one last cigarette.. and snow is everywhere.. and it's still snowing..
03:45.27phixkrefik: it is 88F here
03:45.59krefikphix: I sincerely hate you
03:46.07jayteesame here
03:46.09phix90F even, although I always refer to it as 32C :)
03:46.32phixkrefik: I might go to the beach later me thinks
03:46.36Kattykrefik: that's a good thing. smoking is very bad for your health.
03:46.44Kattykrefik: you should get ecigarettes.
03:47.00phixyou should all help me with my asterisk issue instead :P
03:47.03Kattykrefik: water vapor + liquid nicotine + flavoring = years on your life.
03:47.06phixyou know, keeping within topic and all :)
03:47.13Kattyphix: we are all volunteers here.
03:47.20Kattyphix: no one is paid to sit here and fix everyone's problems.
03:47.21phixKatty: yeah, I know )
03:47.24Kattyphix: so patience is key.
03:47.33krefikphix: I got -12C...
03:47.42phixKatty: ok, well let me know when you are over talking about the weather :)
03:47.54phixand timezones and such
03:47.59Kattywell i will be done talking about the weather in 30 minutes when i go to bed.
03:48.05phix:(
03:48.13Kattybut i am only one person
03:48.19phixDamn you northen hemispheres!
03:48.20Kattyand there are 211 others.
03:48.42phixhemispherers even
03:49.27phixok, so any way, anyone wantto give me a hand?
03:49.39phix[TK]D-Fender: you alive?
03:50.29krefikKatty: I don't like ecigarettes, they're sorta... soulless
03:51.49Kattykrefik: i think you could learn to live with them (=
03:51.59Kattykrefik: and maybe even enjoy some of the crazy flavors
03:52.02phixok so I can create from the ZAP channel but cannot receive them
03:52.09Kattykrefik: especially if it meant less tar covering your lungs
03:52.19phixwould this be a driver issue? configuration issue?
03:52.41phixa bug in asterisk?
03:52.56phixA bug in zaptel?
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03:53.06phixA bug in Debian Lenny package?
03:53.19krefikKatty: only when someone find way to use ecigarette bowels to roll a joint ;-)
03:53.22mike3i'm having some issues. I just installed asterisknow and configured an extension with a mailbox. However, when i try to login into my mailbox it says it doesn't exist
03:53.38mike3well it says password incorrect every time i try
04:09.13Kattymmm, mozzarella wedge.
04:09.16Kattyomnomnomnomnoms
04:10.26mike3i keep getting this error "app-dialvm: BAD mailbox"
04:10.30mike3can somebody please help
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04:12.34krefikpierogies ;>
04:13.30krefiknomnomnom
04:13.37krefikmike3: got no idea :/
04:13.44mike3:s
04:13.47krefikphix: got no idea :/
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04:15.42krefikI got 5 different linux distros with asterisk in virtualbox envs and to the moment managed neither of them to work as i expect them to
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04:19.27Kattywhat are Pierogies?
04:19.49Kattylooks like an empanada
04:20.09Kattyahhh, stuffed dumpling
04:20.29phixok I jsut did some tests, it seems that if I only have one phone connected to ZAP channel it works fine, when I plug my house phones up to it (4 in total) the channel picks up straight away, then disconnects a sec later
04:20.30Kattyempanadas are stuffed little packets
04:20.32Kattywhich are baked
04:21.02phixI have tried unplugging 1 phone at a time to isolate if it is a phone hand set causing the issue, that didnt work
04:21.07Kattyi guess every culuture has their little snack sized stuffed something or other
04:21.14phixnow going to try and disconnect all phones and she if it picks up still or not
04:21.25phixis there a phone limit for a tdm400p?
04:23.34krefikKatty: this time my pierogies aren't stuffed with nothing, they're made of cottage cheese, egg and flour, cooked in water, served with butter and sugar
04:23.40phixok, the channel still picks up :/  I did have to replace my last TDM due to a lightning storm :/  could it be possible that phone lines in the house are fucking something up?
04:23.51krefikthis kind is called 'lazy pierogies'
04:24.03mike3this is driving me crazy. why the hell doesn' my mailbox work. I can login to it from freepbx but when i try with my phone it doesn't work.
04:24.52phixwhat voltage lvls am I suppose to find over a ZAP channel?
04:25.20florzhow many meters is a byte wide?
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05:05.03mike3are there any free sip accounts or a community of free sip network?
05:05.37p3nguinThat depends on what you mean by "sip accounts."
05:06.35mike3how do you mean?
05:07.36ChannelZHow do _you_ mean?
05:07.55ChannelZYou want a free phone number, or just to accept SIP calls?
05:08.16mike3both i guess. I don't know
05:08.20p3nguinIf you want a free phone number (a DID), then you can get one from IPcomms.net.
05:08.38p3nguinor from IPkall.com.
05:08.39p3nguinor from sipgate.com.
05:08.47ChannelZWhat is it you're actually trying to accomplish
05:09.09mike3just a place where I can play around with asterisk with other users. testing purposes etc
05:12.05ChannelZGet your friends to install a softphone
05:12.18mike3what is free world dialup?
05:12.24drmessanoNot free
05:13.47drmessanowow, I didnt know they abandoned the domain name
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05:21.41Nuggetheh, wow
05:22.04mike3p3nguin, any for canada?
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05:28.26drmessanoThey used the "Free World Dialup" name from the start.. Im shocked they didnt find something to rebrand it with..
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05:29.02drmessanoI remember using FWD dialup internet.. for about a week
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05:33.57Nugget"Mr. Pulver is a globally renowned thought leader."
05:33.59Nuggetuh huh
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05:36.05alexsea7I get this warning and asterisk hangs, WARNING[15964] dsp.c: Can only calculate silence on signed-linear frames :(
05:36.16alexsea7can anyone help please
05:51.44jblackFWD: born an abortion
05:52.43ChannelZalexsea7: what codec is being used?
05:56.53mazpeis it me... or ar cisco 79XX more user friendly than the polycom?
05:57.18p3nguinNo idea, since I've never used a Polycom.
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05:59.41alexsea7this warning is for PRI connection
06:04.19alexsea7<PROTECTED>
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06:05.36ChannelZThat usually just means someone hung up.  Or the connection terminated unexpectedly
06:06.30ChannelZmoreso the latter than the former, since if someone hangs up the connection generally gets torn down properly.
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06:10.13alexsea7but I got this error for some AGI syntax error
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06:16.07ChannelZWell we can't read minds
06:17.08ChannelZIf it was AGI then it sounds like something is wrong with your script and you're not communicating both ways.  Or your script terminated unexpectedly
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06:42.11jblackYeah, that makes sense. script crashes, the socket dies, data gets tossed, eventually leading to passing no data to dsp.
06:42.44jblacka misordered teardown of sorts.
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06:52.34alexsea7thanks ChannelZ  & jblack, fixing AGI and hoping dsp issue is fixed eventually
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06:52.53jblackalexsea7: If the agi is fixed, the dsp thing probably won't ever show again.
06:54.24alexsea7jblack: do you this because of this AGI and dsp issues asterisk crashes?
06:55.30jblackIt's possible, but not highly likely.
06:56.37jblackIt reads to me like "Your big huge bug in your agi script  is triggering a small bug in a codepath that's not often traveled because people normally just fix the agi script" sorta thing
06:57.15jblackThough, that said,  a broken agi shouldn't take down asterisk, even if it's broken.
06:58.14alexsea7yes that is what I thought...but I had a asterisk crash couple of times when the call traffic was around 50 to 60 channels
06:58.31alexsea7all channels execute AGI while enter and leave
06:59.53jblackFix everything as best as you can, and see what's still breaking.
07:00.17jblackI know, that's rather obvious advice, but it's kinda where you're at at this point.
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07:03.55alexsea7yes thanks jblack
07:04.18jblackyou don't owe me thanks. I didn't give you anything useful
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08:47.13plundraShouldn't "queue reload members" (or all) update each members penalty? (I have updated the static members in queues.conf)
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09:59.57cjkhi, can meetme do video conferences?
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10:49.49jaybinkshey, anyone here who can help me quickly with a cisco sip gateway config ??
10:49.52jaybinksand a few questions
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10:59.36lftsyHello everybody, I'm trying to see if it is possible to enumerate Numbers from voicemail announce by groups like saying (012) (345) (67) (89) on Asterisk 1.6.2... Have you got any clue of how to do it? I'm playing with file say.conf without sucess
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11:01.21guyvdb_When I get an incoming call from a telco (analog) line via a TDM800 FXO, and the caller hangs up prior to someone answering (via a SIP phone), Asterisk is not detecting the hangup and the SIP phone continues to ring. Where should I be looking to find the problem?
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11:12.26spenguin[work]guyvdb_: if this helps
11:12.28spenguin[work]http://kb.digium.com/entry/30/
11:13.43spenguin[work]http://www.asteriskguru.com/tutorials/resolving_hangup_detection_problems_fxo_tdm_voicemail.html
11:16.03guyvdb_spenguin[work] thx
11:22.16spenguin[work]np
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11:28.13AkiraaSangoma cards, are they reliable in your experience?
11:29.05coppiceAkiraa: compared to what?
11:30.04Akiraacoppice: compared to standalone devices like the SPA400 (4FXO) or other Digium clone cards
11:31.07coppicemost of the linksys ATA type products aren't very reliable, so beating those is easy. the sangoma cards are generally more reliable than the digium ones.
11:31.38Akiraacoppice: What about digium and clone cards?
11:33.02Akiraalike http://www.novavox.co.uk/products/analogue-cards/a400p.html or http://voiptel-pro.com/pci/ax-400p.html
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12:05.52AtLeThi
12:06.02AtLeTI ned some help with DAHDI and BLF
12:06.31AtLeTI added to extensions.conf exten => 799,hint,DAHDI/4-1
12:06.40AtLeTbut it doesn't work the right way
12:06.55AtLeTis there anything else to change or add?
12:07.00AtLeTfor SIP it's working fine
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12:14.23kjsDebian or Ubuntu for asterisk? I have been out of the loop for a while, is it still best policy to download latest asterisk and install from source?
12:33.58spenguin[work]kjs: anything light
12:34.04spenguin[work]without much overhead
12:34.09spenguin[work]less apps etc
12:35.07spenguin[work]AtLeT: does dahdi mean free calls?
12:35.28spenguin[work]just asking - I read quite a bit still not clear about the whole idea
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12:42.17mnick86If I call my analog phone, the phone is not physically ringing, but If I go off hook the call gets established. Any ideas ?
12:45.10spenguin[work]up the volume? :p
12:46.07mnick86:) unfortunately not
12:47.45spenguin[work]do you have the molex power connector hooked to the FXO card?
12:48.05mnick86Yes
12:48.27mnick86I get between 40 and 50 Volts
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13:01.03AtLeTspenguin[work]: no, dahdi not means free calls :)
13:01.31Naikrovekit can
13:01.44Naikrovekif you DAHDi peer with people you call a lot
13:01.54Naikrovekbut it won't make your entire lot of phone calls free
13:03.04Naikrovekor even if you just make regular trunks to people or businesses, you can call them free
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13:06.00AtLeTNaikrovek: yes, that's true
13:07.02AtLeTbut I'm using to connect to analog line
13:07.21AtLeTand I need to se, when the line is free and when ocupated
13:07.23AtLeTor busy
13:07.40spenguin[work]Naikrovek: what if someone with skype connectivity adds dahdi
13:08.30spenguin[work]would we be able to call skype users through them
13:08.42Naikrovekthe only thing DAHDi gives you is call routing lookup.  You call 321-321-3213; DAHDi asks your peers if they own this number.  If they do, it routes the call to them directly, without going through the telco.
13:08.51c0rnoTagood day, All
13:09.01kaldemarNaikrovek: you're mixing DAHDI and DUNDi
13:09.02Naikrovekif none of your peers own that number, it sends the call out through the telco
13:09.06spenguin[work]woa
13:09.08spenguin[work]its MY BAD
13:09.14spenguin[work]I meant DUNDi
13:09.19Naikrovekas did i
13:09.54Naikrovekso s/DAHDi/DUNDi/
13:10.22Naikrovekwhy couldn't they name one DAHDI and the other WILBUR
13:10.26spenguin[work]Naikrovek: so itll not initiate calls over someone elses pstn
13:10.39spenguin[work]heh
13:10.51Naikrovekspenguin[work]: you can't use DUNDi to route calls to the PSTN through someone else unless that someone else allows you to do that
13:10.57kaldemarand sending calls to the telco is up to the dialplan. DUNDi only locates dial strings in an IP network, when a number lookup is done.
13:11.02spenguin[work]ok
13:11.33Naikrovekthank you kaldemar, for the correction
13:11.43Naikrovekthey should pick dissimilar names
13:11.49NaikrovekDAHDI DUNDi
13:11.54Naikrovekus newbs get it mixed up
13:12.15spenguin[work]Naikrovek: if someone is hooked over DUNDi and is sharing thier VoIP DID number, Id be able to call through it?
13:12.40Naikrovekspenguin[work]: if it's set up that way, i guess.  it's ALL possible, really
13:13.00spenguin[work]so basically it threatens the PSTN network :p
13:13.08spenguin[work]although its small as of now
13:13.09Naikrovekso far you haven't mentioned a requirement that I've seen that even requires DUNDi - regular trunking does all you're mentioning
13:13.49Naikrovekspenguin[work]: not really.  only when every single phone in the world is connected to other phones via regular SIP/IAX trunking, and DAHDi is used on all those trunks will the PSTN be threatened
13:13.54Naikrovekthey're threatened by email far more
13:13.56spenguin[work]yeah
13:14.23spenguin[work]sounds like an interesting revolution though :p
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13:16.51kaldemarDUNDi has it's uses, it can be used to advertise (wrong word really since the protocol is reactive) PSTN gateways in a network and load balance for example.
13:18.01spenguin[work]yeah which is interesting ..something like mesh networks with olsr or BATMAN in a wifi setup
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13:21.38NaikrovekI need to play with it more
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13:21.59NaikrovekI have two offices and I want people to be able to bring their extension with them when they move between offices.
13:22.13kaldemarspenguin[work]: yep. and the protocol has different mappings that can be used to do lookups for different kinds of numbers.
13:22.20Naikrovekbut the other office is in India, so asterisk Realtime probably isn't the best solution.
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13:23.30kaldemarNaikrovek: regexten and DUNDi would be simple to use, but nearly overkill if you only have two offices. simple dialplan logic would be sufficient.
13:23.48TommyBottenIs it possible to add multiple hosts for a single instance in sip.conf ?
13:24.27Naikrovekkaldemar: well normally I route all calls to certain extensions (_4XX) to the other server, and all calls except _4XX from their server to mine
13:24.51Naikrovekbut we have people over here from there often enough that I want them to be able to bring their extension with them, and I don't want to have to fiddle with it manually
13:25.29NaikrovekI just provision the phone to be their extension and reboot it.  I want the system to know that they're here now and not route the call to India
13:26.03Naikrovekand i'm not using a system where I can do whatever i want with the dial plan
13:26.14Naikrovekso i'll have to figure it out with dundi probably
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13:28.14heholHi all! I'm trying to get T.38 passthroughto work on Asterisk 1.6.2.2. Unfortunately, Asterisk is mixing up the UDPTL port numbers in the re-INVITEs. I wonder whether it's a bug or a configuration mistake. Is anyone successfully using T.38 passthrough with 1.6.2?
13:28.46jmcdowellFrom what I have read, it "just works".
13:28.59jmcdowellThat is a path that I will be going down soon as well.
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13:30.27heholjmcdowell, I read that, too. But it seems as if Asterisk allocates a UDPTL port as if the T.38 connection is to be terminated inside Asterisk. Maybe "just works" refers to the T.38 termination, not passthrough ...
13:30.46jkroonasterisk is also messing up on early media at the moment (suspected), necissitating a full restart on some of my servers from time to time (most severe case is once a day at least)
13:30.55jkroonleaves some rtp ports open.
13:30.58Naikrovekew
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13:48.46CpuID2hey guys... anyone here work for any US based telcos? or largeish US based VoIP providers? just wanted to talk to someone re wholesale buy rates for decentish quantities of USA domestic traffic
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13:53.56reptileshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ol9RoAK2y2Y
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14:10.23spenguin[work]Naikrovek: Im from India :)
14:10.51plundraPenalties not being updated on a "queue reload all", any ideas?
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14:32.05Naikrovekreloading a queue just rereads the queue config I think.  i don't think it's meant to reset things.  I could be wrong.  I probably am wrong.  Why did I type this?
14:33.54plundraNaikrovek: You can reload memebers, i.e. adding (and I assume removing), but it doesn't seem to update changed penalties.
14:34.34Naikrovekplundra: the regular experts in here will be happy to help when they show up, I'm sure.
14:34.45[TK]D-Fenderplundra: Your members are all static?
14:35.14plundra[TK]D-Fender: Right now yes, only static.
14:35.52plundraI'm in the progress of making some agent-logic and eventually a webinterface for people to add them self to whatever queue they'd like.
14:36.12plundraIt's not really a big thing, but I assumed it would work. So I might be doing something wrong :)
14:37.45plundraTesting again ( I did this last time on saturday), on my test queue, it actually does update everything as it should...
14:39.48plundraquietly retreats
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14:40.50Chevellehi people
14:41.16Naikrovekhi
14:41.25Naikrovekmy brother had a 1967 yellow you
14:44.39rue_househaha
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14:47.56plundraOh! I wasn't crazy, it actually doesn't change the priority for me now. I've done a reload all and most of them are still on 15, should be 1.
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14:49.50Keeper82Hi, is it possible to send sms to mobile phone using asterisk?
14:50.26ManxPower-workKeeper82: Only in Europe.
14:50.35Keeper82ok, I'm in europe :D
14:51.04ManxPower-workKeeper82: then read "core show application sms" and read the sms.txt file included with the Asterisk source.
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14:52.43Keeper82I'm trying it but I don't understand why it's not working
14:53.03Keeper82* keeps telling me app_sms.c:1696 sms_process: No data, hanging up
14:53.08ManxPower-workKeeper82: which SMSC are you calling?
14:53.16Keeper824211
14:53.26ManxPower-workwhen you call it from your landline what happens?
14:53.37Keeper82I hear a beep and then nothing
14:53.55ManxPower-workKeeper82: Are you using SIP or Zap/DAHDI
14:54.02Keeper82DAHDI
14:56.20Keeper82last friday i had problems sending faxes but I found why: * only accepts 1bit tiff :P
14:59.46coppicethis is normal for FAX
15:00.01Keeper82i didn't know before :P
15:00.22Naikrovekthe whole fax technology is so outdated it isn't even funny
15:00.27coppicesome machines accept colour FAX, but its rarely used
15:00.36Naikrovekhowcome we cant muster up a better technology that people will actually adopt
15:00.57ManxPower-workNaikrovek: because the new technologies are harder to use than the old technologies.
15:01.05coppicewell, I guess when someone succeeds in selling an effective alternative it will go away :-)
15:01.07rue_housecause someone made _1_ chip that is a 'fax machine on a chip' and everyones using it
15:01.34Naikrovekwell i'd think that more people would have email.  and that someone could duct tape a scanner to an email client
15:01.39coppiceactually there are no FAX machines on a chip
15:01.59ManxPower-workNaikrovek: people have.  Users still send faxes because fax via e-mail is harder to use.
15:02.04rue_houseI suspect there is close
15:02.19rue_housethere are hidef tv's on a chip
15:02.33ManxPower-workThey must have very small screens.
15:02.40rue_housethere are channelbanks on a chip
15:02.46rue_housenot how it works
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15:03.03NaikrovekManxPower-work: i envision a device that looks almost exactly like a fax machine, integrated printer and scanner, except when you enter a fax number, you enter an email address.
15:03.06rue_housethe chip does EVERYTHING, you just plug in the parts (aka screen and video connector)
15:03.11coppicevery manufacturer has their own implementation of FAX, with their own quirks. You can almost fingerprint the maker from the transactionas
15:03.35ManxPower-workNaikrovek: Such a device would have a keyboard, of course
15:04.04NaikrovekManxPower-work: yes, but it would be an appliance and you'd walk over to it, and it wouldn't be any harder to use
15:04.14coppiceNaikrovek: such machines exist, but they don't get much traction in the market
15:04.27Naikrovekokay so we need to find out why
15:04.35Naikrovekand rid ourselves of this terrible fax technology
15:04.53rue_housekeep in mind alot of people stick seomething in the fax machine right after printing it
15:05.00ManxPower-workheck many modern fax machines have fax to e-mail features.  People still use them as glorified scanners and send the "e-mails" to themselves
15:05.24rue_housethe shredder suffers the same thing, "print to shredder" would be a popular option if it existed
15:05.25coppicethe thing is, its not so terrible. its cheap and simple. its pretty reliable.
15:05.43ManxPower-workcoppice: but it's not new so it must be bad!
15:05.54Naikroveki suspect a lot of this has to do with legal requirements.  fax machines are mentioned specifically in many regulations i bet
15:06.06rue_houseyes I have to teach the ladies at the office how to use the multifunction to scan without emailing themselfs
15:06.50ChainsawMaking it easy is what matters. Scan-1-Green is what e-mails instead of faxes in our office. A lot of people use it.
15:07.05ManxPower-workrue_house: How often do you have to teach them.  In my experience, it's about once a weel.
15:07.12ManxPower-workand week too.
15:07.15rue_housenods
15:07.24spenguin[work]hey rue_house !
15:07.33rue_houseI also have to work on handling more than one call at a time on the polycom phones
15:07.46Naikrovekrue_house: they kinda do this by themselves
15:08.09rue_houseand I caught them holding by putting the handset against their leg
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15:08.18Naikrovekoh hah
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15:08.31Naikrovekpolycom has a really decent quick reference card on how to use their phones
15:08.43rue_housewhere!
15:08.50Naikrovekrue_house: what model phone you got
15:08.54rue_house601
15:08.55[TK]D-Fenderrue_house: www.polycom.com
15:09.01ManxPower-workNaikrovek: you seem to have much more confidence in users than reality would reflecty.
15:09.03rue_houseoh is it in the manual
15:09.09plundraWoa
15:09.12rue_houseI remember printing part of that off for them
15:09.13[TK]D-Fenderrue_house: the USER Guide, not the ADMIN guide
15:09.21plundra200% cpu on asterisk :-) And pretty non-responsive...
15:09.27rue_housek, I'll take another look
15:09.32NaikrovekManxPower-work: well i haven't been asked how to transfer since i sent them out
15:09.38ManxPower-workUsers are dumber than rocks.  They don't want to learn anything more than a rock and they forget things faster than a rock.
15:09.38plundra666M virtual memory at the moment too, how symbolic.
15:10.17Naikrovekrue_house: http://www.polycom.com/global/documents/support/user/products/voice/soundpoint_ip601_quick_user_guide.pdf
15:10.26rue_housethey compalin that after hanging up, they cant get the transfered call back
15:10.27ManxPower-workEventually most admins seem to realize this and realize that all the cool stuff they do for users will never be used.
15:10.39[TK]D-Fender[10:10]<rue_house>they compalin that after hanging up, they cant get the transfered call back <- DUH :p
15:10.39NaikrovekManxPower-work: yes :(
15:10.47Naikrovek[TK]D-Fender: that's what i said
15:11.02rue_housethey dont check if anyone is there before they hang up a transfer
15:11.15spenguin[work]heh
15:11.25ManxPower-work"allow transfer on preceeding" or whatever the option is called.
15:11.26rue_houseI was thinking of making it refuse to transfer calls that weren't picked up on the other end first
15:11.42Naikroveksometimes you WANT to transfer to voicemail though
15:11.48rue_housewe dont ahve voicemail
15:11.52Naikrovek??
15:11.57rue_housesmalllll office
15:11.58[TK]D-Fenderrue_house: I'll bet these people often clean loaded guns as well.... maybe if you're lucky one will "Darwin" themselves
15:12.00ManxPower-workthat just automatically converts the attended transfer to a blind transfer if the other end doesn't pick up before the user completes the transfer
15:13.11rue_housethey are almost `put the call on hold and shout to the person that there is a call for them on that line`
15:13.20plundraIs there a way to test your configs (queues.conf in this case) first, without reloading/restarting and then see? Kind of like "aelparse".
15:13.22rue_houseI worked that out tho
15:13.29Naikrovekrue_house: you can do parking maybe
15:13.46plundraBecause now I managed to get it stuck on 200%, so I killed it, and the queues.conf was broken or something, because app_queue wasn't loaded at all when I started it again.
15:13.57Naikrovekrue_house: transfer to extension, * gives you a number, you yell to dave: "yo, pick up a call on [number asterisk gave me]!"
15:14.18rue_houseyea I thought call parking woul confuse them
15:14.23plundraThere was no indication from queue reload that it could load/parse it. (Even with verbosity and debug pretty high)
15:14.38Naikrovekrue_house: i thought so, but people figured it out quickly
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15:17.07rue_houseI suspect if the parking spot was the same as the line number they might work it out
15:17.21rue_househmm
15:17.35rue_housebeen a tossup now we have 2 lines the same number, havn't pooled them yet
15:18.25Naikroveki find that if you raise your expectations, people will rise to meet them, provided you don't make them feel stupid
15:18.48rue_house:)
15:18.50ManxPower-workNaikrovek: I used to think that.  Then I gained experience.
15:18.51Naikrovekand don't make too big of a jump in expectations
15:18.52rue_houseoff to work!
15:19.02NaikrovekManxPower-work: if you do it right, it'll work
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15:20.40ManxPower-workWe can't even get users to note the time and number when they have a disconnected call.
15:21.02ManxPower-workSo I did what I frequently do, remove users from the equation.
15:21.05Naikrovekyeah i can see that being difficult
15:21.14ManxPower-workThe PBX never forgets to note down the time and number of the call.
15:21.23Naikrovek"go away or i'll replace you with small shell script"
15:21.32ManxPower-workNaikrovek: An AGI, but yes.
15:21.43Naikroveki was quoting a T-shirt i owned once
15:21.53Naikrovekrue_house: did you see that quick reference card?
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15:33.56kjsguys im having a problem when configuring voicemail
15:33.58kjshttp://fpaste.org/qQS9/
15:34.28kjsmy voicemail.conf looks like this: 100 => 1337101,100,keith@blah.com
15:35.26[TK]D-Fenderkjs: better have MORE than that.  Pastebin the whole thing.
15:35.28[TK]D-Fender~pb
15:35.29infobot[~pb] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org ,  http://bin.cakephp.org/ , or apt-get install pastebinit
15:35.48kjs[TK]D-Fender: of voicemail.conf?
15:35.55[TK]D-Fenderkjs: Yes
15:36.15kjsthats all i have in there ATM, as I am just trying to get vm working before i configure it futher.
15:36.30kjsah i need [default]
15:36.44voipmonkis in [default] ?
15:37.10kjsdoh
15:37.14kjsthat was the problem!
15:37.24kjsthanks anyway guys :)
15:38.06voipmonkkjs :) no matter how weird the question - if it relates to asterisk just ask :)
15:40.34kjsmight be a few more, im moving the office from some lame hosted pbx thing, to an asterisk server.
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15:50.12ManxPower-workkjs: then it's not a valid voicemail.conf
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15:56.35kjshttp://pastebin.com/d54fdb8c6
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15:56.50kjsfails creating a meeting room with meetme
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15:59.32Kattyhi
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16:00.59kjshi Katty
16:01.31kjsanyone know this one? autoload=yes in modules.conf so you would think it would load meetme.so if it required it?
16:02.14[TK]D-Fenderkjs: Try loading the module manually and see what happens
16:02.40Kattyhttp://lh3.ggpht.com/_hVOW2U7K4-M/SVSYCVMNoDI/AAAAAAAAwPQ/flNj_Sj1pCA/s640/8675b2d3850c.jpg
16:02.48ManxPower-workhas a psychic vision about a missing DAHDI.
16:03.27voipmonkbastard installation
16:03.27Katty^- i hope their pantry is full.
16:03.59NaikrovekKatty: no kidding
16:04.12Naikroveki can't believe the roof has withstood that amount of snow.  usually 6ft and collapse
16:05.08Kattyhttp://lh6.ggpht.com/_hVOW2U7K4-M/S3kOyTzT0RI/AAAAAAABP4U/GRVgAGdYTyE/s640/e546wy45et45rewt54re.jpg
16:05.55Naikroveki saw that fairly frequently when i lived in alaska
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16:06.37Kattynice.
16:10.42spenguin[work]hey Katty !
16:10.55Kattyhowdy.
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16:11.49Kattyjblack made an interesting comment on my FB page last night.
16:12.06Kattyi had posted the comment that Riddick ate well last night, cause he got leftover prime rib from our dinner
16:12.32Kattyhis comment was that "that's better than many humans these days"
16:13.00Kattynow that i think about it, probably a lot of the pets in developed countries DO live better than some people do
16:13.16Naikrovekthat's true of any food at all, because some people starve
16:13.24Kattywell not just food...
16:13.29Kattyconstant clean water supply
16:13.37Kattymost of them have a roof over their head
16:13.41Kattynot to mention a cushy bed.
16:13.52Kattyand medical care
16:14.57Kattywe spend tons of money on our pets.
16:16.14Kattyand especially the smaller dogs... clothing, jewelery...
16:16.20Kattygrooming.
16:16.23Kattynail trimming
16:16.31Kattyjust tons and tons of /stuff/
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16:17.17Kattypound per pound, most dog food is more expensive than rice
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16:18.02Kattyand most dog food, has meat in it....if not meat being the primary ingredient on the ingredient list
16:18.34Kattyhow many people don't even get that?
16:19.22kjs[TK]D-Fender: http://pastebin.com/d27994653 looks like it's not there! is it something I should of built at install time?
16:19.31spenguin[work]Katty: hrm, well theres not really much you can do about it
16:19.38spenguin[work]other than donate etc
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16:20.00Kattyspenguin[work]: i just never thought about it before.
16:20.00[TK]D-Fenderkjs: Did you install DAHDI first before compiling *?
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16:20.27Kattyspenguin[work]: i bet i spend at least $100 per month on Riddick
16:20.39spenguin[work]Katty: its pretty apparent here when you see both sides
16:20.47spenguin[work]where I live i.e
16:20.59yangI am wondering about the waiting line feature (How is it called), where the PBX says, "hold on, second in line", "hold on, third in line" ?
16:21.10jayteequeues?
16:21.10Kattyspenguin[work]: how much do you think your Average family could live on, per month over there?
16:21.25kjs[TK]D-Fender: uhm no?
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16:21.39rubberneckWhen someone connects to the asterisk console "Remote UNIX connection" is displayed. I want to stop this. I looked in asterisk.c and found this "if (!ast_opt_hide_connect)" , it seems that there is a way to set a variable to hide it. anyone know how to do this?
16:21.45[TK]D-Fenderkjs: Uhm FAIL
16:21.50[TK]D-Fenderkjs: Its REQUIRED
16:21.54ManxPower-workI wonder if putting the star of david on my door will keep the catholics from leaving flyers.
16:21.58spenguin[work]Katty: depends on number of people
16:22.06spenguin[work]but cost of living isnt really high
16:22.09jayteeManxPower-work, try a pentagram instead :-)
16:22.11[TK]D-Fenderkjs: Menuselect will tell you this
16:22.16spenguin[work]its the overall standard which is low
16:22.20jayteethat'll work for Catholics and Jehovah's Witnesses
16:22.23ManxPower-workjaytee: I'm tempted, but I do live in the deep south.
16:22.39spenguin[work]and the quality in everything you purchase and the livestyle
16:22.39Kattyspenguin[work]: what's the average family size there?
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16:22.48spenguin[work]Katty: 4?
16:22.52spenguin[work]depends on the state
16:22.57yangManxPower-work: maybe they will try to enlighten you with the new religion
16:23.00Kattyspenguin[work]: okay so let's assume you have a family of 4
16:23.00[TK]D-FenderManxPower-work: No, TAKE the flyers, and draw a chalk outline on your doorstep and litter them about, along with the pentagram :p
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16:23.11Kattyspenguin[work]: they will need a place to live, and food to eat.
16:23.18Hereticlo all
16:23.21Kattyspenguin[work]: how much do you think that costs a month?
16:23.25kjs[TK]D-Fender: I can install it now?
16:23.28spenguin[work]yep, well if they dont care they live on streets
16:23.32spenguin[work]they are allowed to
16:23.35ManxPower-work[TK]D-Fender: I want to scare off the freaks, not the neighbors
16:23.48Kattyspenguin[work]: see that's unheard of here.
16:23.55jayteechalk outline, lol
16:23.58spenguin[work]food is cheap
16:24.06spenguin[work]but low on quality
16:24.09Kattyspenguin[work]: so you think a family of 4 could survive on 100 a month?
16:24.14spenguin[work]nah
16:24.23Kattyspenguin[work]: how about a single person?
16:24.34yangManxPower-work: it's never too late to be rescued by the Jehovas, they come to my door for the last 15 years, but I am a hard case for them
16:24.36spenguin[work]$100  ?
16:24.41Kattyspenguin[work]: 100 US
16:24.41spenguin[work]that would be a lot here
16:24.44kjs[TK]D-Fender: I am not running any zaptel hw though, only sip / iax trunks.
16:24.48spenguin[work]100x48
16:24.57[TK]D-Fenderkjs: That doesn't change the answer.
16:24.58spenguin[work]= Rs
16:24.59Kattywhat type of currency do you use?
16:25.04spenguin[work]Ruppees
16:25.16spenguin[work]48 is the conversion rate
16:25.17ManxPower-workindian?
16:25.25spenguin[work]yes sir
16:25.36Katty46.3
16:25.39kjs[TK]D-Fender: how do I run menuselect ?
16:25.46jayteewhat's that in drachmas?
16:25.49ManxPower-workkjs: If you want meetme, you will run Zaptel/DAHDI, even if you don't have a telco card.
16:25.55[TK]D-Fenderkjs: Same way you did when you first installed *
16:25.57ManxPower-workkjs: make menuconfig
16:26.11Kattyspenguin[work]: so i spend 4630 Rs on my dog per MONTH
16:26.30Kattyspenguin[work]: actually i spend 4630 Ps on my dog just this past weekend cause he had an ear infection
16:26.31spenguin[work]Katty: a lot of families can live off that here
16:26.33rubberneckWell if anyone was interested I just changed the verbosity from 4 to 5 and recompiled. this gets rid of it, and it is still visible with a 'core set verbose 5'
16:26.37ManxPower-workI spend like $10/month on my cat
16:26.43spenguin[work]s/can//
16:27.00spenguin[work]heh, nice
16:27.00Kattyspenguin[work]: so how many Rs do you figure it takes a family of 4 to live for a month?
16:27.26spenguin[work]depends on a lot - if you think its just food they need then they can survive
16:27.33spenguin[work]and do survive
16:27.41ManxPower-worksurvival is not living
16:27.47Kattyyeah you got a point there. my idea of Living and their idea of Living is probably a lot different
16:28.14spenguin[work]ManxPower-work: well Im not sure how they manage, but I do know they do
16:28.36Kattyi don't think i could live for any less than 2000 US (92600 Rs) per month
16:28.40ManxPower-workspenguin[work]: it helps when prices are much lower.
16:28.56spenguin[work]ManxPower-work: yes, and reduces the standard of living
16:29.09ManxPower-workI spend something like $100/month just on tobacco, but when cigarettes are $5/pack of 20......
16:29.11spenguin[work]Katty: hrm, just you?
16:29.11kjs[TK]D-Fender: I dont see any option for meetme in the menu ?
16:29.18Kattyspenguin[work]: just me.
16:29.21Kattyspenguin[work]: and my dog.
16:29.27ManxPower-workkjs: Applications
16:29.28[TK]D-Fenderkjs: Is that a QUESTION?
16:29.28spenguin[work]thats a lot here
16:29.32Kattyspenguin[work]: yeah i imagine so
16:29.51Kattyspenguin[work]: but like manx said, stuff is a lot more expensive here.
16:29.57spenguin[work]but what Ive been talking about is the section between the middle and lower class
16:30.09Kattyspenguin[work]: i would consider myself middle class.
16:30.20Kattyspenguin[work]: maybe even the slightly lower end of the middle class
16:30.23spenguin[work]well yeah clothes are cheap and so is food
16:30.40spenguin[work]Katty: well thats heaps better than here
16:30.45Kattynods
16:31.05Kattyprobably the cheapest 'new' clothing you can find is 10 US for pants and 5 US for shirts
16:31.30Katty463 Rs and 231.5 Rs
16:31.33Kobazunless there is a sale
16:31.39Kattyor you go to Goodwill
16:31.43spenguin[work]you can get pretty good clothes at that rate here
16:31.45kjs[TK]D-Fender: I can see it is in Applications, however it states "Depends on dahdi" how do I install that? Will it compile dahdi
16:31.48Kobazi picked up plain shirts of various colors from old navy for $2.50 each
16:31.49kjs?
16:31.59KattyKobaz: that's very good
16:32.03Kobazyeap
16:32.09Kattyspenguin[work]: your 'average' clothing here is much more expensive
16:32.11ManxPower-workkjs: MeetMe is in the Applications section of make menuconfig.
16:32.17spenguin[work]you get Tshirts at like Rs60 even
16:32.24spenguin[work]if you can bargain
16:32.24Kattyspenguin[work]: the 'average' pair of pants i buy are about 30 US each, and the shirt about 15-20 US each
16:32.34spenguin[work]and most Indians bargain a lot
16:32.35[TK]D-Fenderkjs: I think you missed the big print.  It is a completely separate packed downlaodable from asterisk.org just like the rest.  It also has its own install intructions included.
16:32.36Kattyspenguin[work]: average shoes are about 30 US
16:32.38kjsManxPower-work: yes it's selected, however it's failing to load.
16:32.44Kattyspenguin[work]: ahh yes, no bargaining here.
16:32.54spenguin[work]well not in a proper shop
16:32.56kjsoh, I see.
16:33.00Kattyspenguin[work]: that's all we have here ;)
16:33.05Kattyspenguin[work]: oh well, we do have Yard Sales
16:33.10spenguin[work]but we have tons of roadside stalls and a markets
16:33.11kjs[TK]D-Fender: i'd better go and install it then...
16:33.17coppicethings ain't so cheap in india these days
16:33.19Kattyspenguin[work]: usually in teh summer only. people trying to get rid of stuff they have which they don't want anymore.
16:33.21[TK]D-Fenderkjs: That might be helpful :)
16:33.22KobazKatty: wow i've never paid that much for regular pants
16:33.32KattyKobaz: girls pants are more expensive
16:33.35KobazKatty: yeah i know
16:33.38KattyKobaz: girls everything are more expensive
16:33.56KattyKobaz: and i dont' shop at Walmart
16:33.58Kobazi've paid 100 bucks for pants, but they are north face waterproof/windproof
16:34.09Kattythe most i've ever paid for a pair of pants was 300
16:34.15Kobazi use em for skiing and snowshoeing
16:34.22KobazKatty: bibs?
16:34.30ManxPower-workThe only way I'd spend $100 on a pair of pants is if they were made of hemp
16:34.31Kattybibs? ^_-
16:34.43Kobazi dunno, the only pants that expensive i can imagine would be bibs
16:34.48Kattynever heard of them
16:34.58spenguin[work]women have tiny clothes that cost a lot
16:34.59Kobazlike mountaineering pants
16:35.07E-bolalol
16:35.09Kattyoh, no.
16:35.13Kattythese were Blue Jeans
16:35.14E-bola$100 for a couple of pants is nothing...
16:35.16Kobazhttp://www.mountaingear.com/pages/product/product.asp/imanf/ARCTERYX/idesc/Alpha+LT+1/2+Bib+-+Men's+Long+Length/Store/MG/item/215481/N/0
16:35.22Kobaz300 dollar blue jeans wtf
16:35.35Kattyyeah i know.
16:35.37Kattybut i was a teenager
16:35.39spenguin[work]clothes in asia is cheap
16:35.46Kobaz^-- bibs
16:35.55Kattyand i thought i had to have those designer jeans i found :P
16:36.09coppiceI don't find clothes in asia very cheap
16:36.19KattyKobaz: link don't work :<
16:36.26KattyKobaz: link me the photo
16:36.48spenguin[work]coppice: you need to know where to buy from ;)
16:36.50Kobazweird
16:36.51jayteeI worked with a guy who paid over 500 bucks for a pair of leather pants. I couldn't decide which was weirder, wearing leather pants for paying over 500 bucks for them
16:36.52Kattyoh here we go. they look like... overalls
16:36.58Kobazhttp://www.mountaingear.com/item_images/mnfct2//common/arcteryx/l_215481_s06_blk.jpg
16:37.01ManxPower-workSince we are on non-asterisk stuff anyway.  I have a video card where one of the connectors looks, at first glance, like an S-video out.  It's even labeled "TV OUT", but the connector is NOT S-video.  Does anyone have any ideas?
16:37.03jaytees/for/or
16:37.17Kobazsale price: $449
16:37.18KattyKobaz: you know i have a friend in colorado
16:37.18beekMorning gang...
16:37.24KattyKobaz: he skis a lot...
16:37.25ManxPower-workjaytee: MMM.....leather.....
16:37.29jayteemorning beek
16:37.33spenguin[work]ManxPower-work: any pics?
16:37.34beekHi jaytee
16:37.38KattyKobaz: he's never even heard of the brand THe North Face
16:37.40spenguin[work]or what model
16:37.41Kobazheh
16:37.49KattyKobaz: and TNF is based out of colorado
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16:37.50Kobazmost of my outerwear is north face
16:37.59ManxPower-workspenguin[work]: of leather pants or of the video card
16:37.59jayteeManxPower-work, you're shameless!!! I knew there was something other than your * knowledge I liked about you :-)
16:38.02KattyKobaz: which makes me think TNF is crap :P
16:38.04Kobazbut i got the stuff before they became urban trendy
16:38.12Kattyahh
16:38.23Kobaznorth face makes good stuff
16:38.28Kattywell idk, i don't usually shop there
16:38.34Kattyi go to Aero and American Eagle mostly
16:38.35spenguin[work]ManxPower-work: heh, well the video card
16:38.50KobazKatty: heh... i don't 'shop'... i get my stuff online
16:39.02KattyKobaz: i live to shop ;)
16:39.15p3nguinWhat about South Butt?  Why do you discriminate against them?
16:39.16spenguin[work]well you guys get good stuff on ebay - cheap
16:39.22E-bolaManxPower-work: composite maybe?
16:39.25spenguin[work]the ebay here sucks
16:39.29Kobazp3nguin: you know they are getting sued too... heh
16:39.34E-bolaManxPower-work: There are lots of older weirder analog tv output ports
16:39.46Kattyp3nguin: we were just talking about how much we spend on our pets per month
16:40.06Kattyp3nguin: and how many people that could actually support in India
16:40.07Kobazi have a north face tent too
16:40.09Kobazit's really awesome
16:40.18Kobazgot it for free though
16:40.28p3nguinkobaz: I know there is litigation of sorts, but I don't know if there really is going to be any judgment.
16:40.36Kobazp3nguin: i would hope not
16:41.02Kobazbusily builds 1.6.2.2
16:41.10ManxPower-workI might be able to find a pic and/or a model number
16:41.30Kattyp3nguin: your family have any pets?
16:43.57p3nguinkatty: I have one dog, but he lives with my grandmother because we can't have pets here.
16:44.04Kattynods
16:44.24p3nguinShe lives like 1/2 mile away, so it's okay.
16:44.53Kattyhow much do you figure is spent on her per month?
16:45.00Kattyfood, vet bills, toys, etc
16:46.19yang~book
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16:46.29p3nguinWell, he only has to go to the vet if he's sick and he eats about a one bag of food per month... so like $10, maybe.
16:46.57p3nguinOh, I'm forgetting to factor in the cost of his heartgard and advantix.
16:47.38p3nguinmaybe $25 per month.
16:47.45Kattynods
16:47.53p3nguinDogs are cheap.
16:47.53Kattyriddick is on sentinal.
16:47.59Kattyhe goes through 50lbs of food every 2 weeks
16:48.09Kattythe sentinal is about 15 a month, the dog food is about 50 a month
16:48.28Kattyguess it depends on the size of the dog too ;)
16:48.36Kattyi get his nails trimmed once a month, so that's another 10
16:48.40Kattyplus toys.
16:48.41p3nguinMy dog is 50-55 pounds.
16:48.58carrarpuppy pedicure
16:49.02KattyI actually got riddick weighed on saturday while he was at the vet for his ear infection, 95.4lbs
16:49.25p3nguinI used to cut his nails, but I haven't for a long time.  He's probably unhappy with me over it.
16:49.26Kattycarrar: yeah no doubt, but i gotta get it done cause he's got some HUGE nails.
16:49.55Kattycarrar: and i don't want the wooden floors, or myself, all carved up
16:50.24carrarheh
16:50.29Kattyhe goes through a bag of dog biscuits a month
16:50.36Kattythat's like...meh, 7 bucks or somethin
16:50.40Corydon76-digDo they make downers for dogs?  I really need some for my chihuahua
16:50.49KattyCorydon76-dig: yeah, it's called going for a run
16:51.01Corydon76-digKatty: that doesn't work
16:51.08KattyCorydon76-dig: then you didn't run enough :P
16:51.28Corydon76-digKatty: I didn't run at all.  I let her do laps around the bedroom
16:52.13beekCorydon76-dig: If you have to bend over to pet it, it's not a dog.  It's a cat wannabee.
16:52.23Corydon76-digI would let her do laps around the living room, but Johnny considers it an attack
16:52.39Corydon76-digbeek: No, cats are much more calm
16:52.46Corydon76-digbeek: as are my bunnies
16:52.53beekCorydon76-dig: You keep them indoors?
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16:52.56Kattyduring the summer, me and riddick go for about 45minutes every other day
16:53.04beek(the bunnies, not the cats)
16:53.12Corydon76-digbeek: Yes
16:53.13Kattyhe immediately passes out for about 2 hours afterwards
16:53.20KattyZZzzZZzzzzzz
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16:53.28p3nguinhttp://imagebin.org/84909  http://imagebin.org/84910
16:53.34Corydon76-digJohnny, in particular, has the run of the house, and he's often found dozing under my bed
16:53.36beekI have a friend who had litterbox trained rabbits.  Very cool pets.
16:54.00Corydon76-digbeek: Johnny is also bigger than a domestic housecat
16:54.38beekCorydon76-dig: Are the rabbits litter trained as well?
16:54.48Corydon76-digYes
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16:55.04beekCorydon76-dig: That's so cool.
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16:55.36Kattynever wanted a pet rabbit...
16:56.07Kattyfor the longest time, when i moved out of my mom's house years ago, i thought i wanted a cat.
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16:56.24Kattybut i actually enjoy the dog a lot more than any cat i've ever had.
16:56.38p3nguinI think he was upset over the picture taking here: http://imagebin.org/84911
16:57.21Kattyinteresting facial expression
16:57.47p3nguinHe had been destroying that stuffed monkey.
16:58.01Kattynods
16:58.11Kattyriddick also likes ripping the stuffing out of ...stuff
16:58.32Kattyi get him lots of stuffed toys from yard sales and goodwill
16:58.53p3nguinResale shops or The Dollar Tree are good places to get cheap stuffed animals for tearing apart.
16:58.58Kattynods
16:59.22Kattyhmm. it looks like it's about lunch time :>
17:00.38Kattydid you know the oz per oz, the banana is higher in calories than the potato?
17:00.53p3nguinHere's another "I'm tearing this monkey to crap" expression: http://imagebin.org/84912
17:01.12Katty:>>>
17:01.14kjs[TK]D-Fender: Will i need to recompile * after installing dahdi ?
17:01.15Kattythat one is cute.
17:01.23Kattyokay, off to lunch i go. laters
17:02.07[TK]D-Fenderkjs: Yes
17:05.00kjs[TK]D-Fender: roger
17:07.25kjsoh ffs, it's over wrote my config files
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17:08.20kjsah it's ok, sip.conf.old (thank god).
17:08.49ManxPower-workkjs: only "make samples" should overwrite the config files.
17:10.27kjsokay, after all that it's still failing on MeetMe
17:11.23Kattymmm.
17:11.28Kattyomnomnomnoms lunch
17:13.34ManxPower-workThis is just WRONG.  Huntsville, AL is warmer than NYC,NY
17:13.44ManxPower-work*sigh*  Maybe I need more caffiene.
17:14.01ManxPower-workThis is just WRONG.  NYC, NY is warmber than Huntsville, AL.
17:14.22kjshttp://pastebin.com/d38fb05b5
17:14.39Kattymaybe you need vitamin d instead
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17:15.41ManxPower-workkjs: did you enable it in menuconfig?
17:15.54ManxPower-workThis stuff just doesn't happen.
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17:16.16kjsManxPower-work: it has three XXX like that in make menuconfig
17:16.26ManxPower-workkjs: You understand that MeetMe will NOT build if Zaptel/DAHDI is not found, right?
17:16.31kjsif i select it it states "requires DAHDI
17:16.38ManxPower-workkjs: rerun configure and check it again.
17:16.49kjsk
17:18.01kjsManxPower-work: hot
17:18.06kjsthat did it...
17:18.22kjsthanks guys
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17:25.00kjsI dunno whats going on here, asterisk cant find any extensions, all the configs are in place...
17:25.23p3nguinShow some evidence of what's happening.
17:25.59kjs[Feb 15 17:25:48] NOTICE[1842]: chan_sip.c:20039 handle_request_invite: Call from '100' to extension '100' rejected because extension not found.
17:26.48Kattydid you swap around the sample files with the old ones
17:27.01kjsyeah
17:27.23Kattyare your phones registered to the server
17:27.39kjsim just going to reboot
17:27.42kjsand re reg them
17:27.43p3nguinThat shouldn't matter, because it says the EXTENSION is not found.
17:28.15p3nguinIf the extension is not found, that means the context where the call is does not have the extension.
17:28.23ManxPower-workkjs: you are going to make the channel tutor you in every aspect of Asterisk, aren't you?
17:28.28ManxPower-work~answers
17:28.28infobotsomebody said answers was Asterisk Book: http://astbook.asteriskdocs.org & SIP w/ NAT: http://www.aocomputing.net/?p=3 & Wiki:  http://www.voip-info.org & docs: /path/to/src/asterisk/doc & 1.4 .vs. 1.6.0 .vs. 1.6.1: : /path/to/src/asterisk/UPGRADE*.txt
17:28.34ManxPower-workkjs: read the Asterisk book.
17:28.49jdoeanyone know why the "mute the followme message" patch didn't make it into 1.6.2?
17:28.52p3nguinA sip debug will show what context chan_sip is looking for the extension in.
17:28.55kjsI have the book.
17:29.05jdoethe one that optionally blocks "please wait while we try to locate..." etc?
17:29.15Kattyjdoe: just to irriate you
17:29.30Kattyjdoe: did it work?
17:29.38ManxPower-workjdoe: copy silence/1.gsm to to the filename of that audio message.
17:30.20jdoeManxPower-work: could do that I guess, the patch seems cleaner though.
17:30.21kjsI have followed it to thie point, however it does not have any mention of the zaptel drivers needing to be built of meetme to work, now after building the dahdi and recompiling * and copying back over my conf files. It has failed.
17:30.36jdoeI have some silly hack so that it plays a ringtone while it tries to find me.
17:30.49jdoepeople were (shudder) getting "confused" by MoH
17:30.57jdoeneeds smarter friends/associates.
17:31.10Kattycan't fix stupid.
17:31.13Kattysorry )=
17:31.15jdoeindeed.
17:31.29jdoeKatty: the only reason I ask was because it was supposedly in trunk :P
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17:32.06p3nguinkjs: "sip set debug" before making the call.
17:32.11Kattyif everyone drank a redbull and vodka in the morning, we wouldn't have this problem ;)
17:33.00p3nguinkjs: There will be one line that says "Looking for ..." where asterisk is looking for the extension in a given context.  What context does it say it is looking for 100 in?
17:33.29kjsvoip01*CLI> sip set debug
17:33.30kjsNo such command 'sip set debug' (type 'core show help sip set debug' for other possible commands)
17:33.39kjsI get this everytime I type anything on the cli
17:34.07kjsok bas example, i just needed to put "on" on the end.
17:34.32kjsp3nguin: Looking for 100 in phones (domain 10.0.1.15)
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17:35.19Kattykjs: where do you keep phones?
17:35.24kjs# is comment in these files?
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17:35.41p3nguinkjs: Now run "dialplan show 100@phones"
17:35.50kjsI keep them in internal but i hvae
17:35.51kjs[phones]
17:35.51kjsinclude => internal
17:36.00p3nguinkjs: no, a semicolon is a comment mark.
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17:36.38steve745can someone help i'm using * 1.6.0.10 all my incomming calls are being disconnected at 45 seconds. I have tried sending incomming calls to ring grop and to ext directly, using a trixbox FE
17:37.03Kattyinfobot: trixbox
17:37.04infobotit has been said that trixbox is a full linux distro that includes FreePBX and other 3rd party add-ons. It is all this extra stuff which makes trixbox VERY difficult to support, and is not supported in #asterisk. Try asking in #trixbox or on their forums & wiki at http://www.trixbox.org/.  We do not recommend using it.
17:37.19steve745ok thx
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17:37.45p3nguinkjs: Does 100@phones show up when you run that command?
17:38.03[TK]D-Fenderkjs: Clearly it's not finding a match......and you aren't showing us anything to believe it should do otherwise
17:38.25kjsThere is no existence of 'phones' context
17:38.27kjsCommand 'dialplan show 100@phones' failed.
17:38.38p3nguinThere's your problem.
17:38.41kjsja
17:38.50p3nguinGo fix extensions.conf.
17:39.41p3nguinIt should have said something like "Included context 'internal'" and then listed exten 100 out of internal.
17:40.09spenguin[work]im out, home run
17:40.14Kattybye
17:40.19spenguin[work]:>
17:40.39p3nguinkjs: Make sure you are either reloading the dialplan with "dialplan reload" or restarting asterisk (which is not necessary since you can just run dialplan reload).
17:41.54kjsI am just typing reload at the cli
17:42.13kjsI dont understand why this config has suddenly broke though.
17:42.14Kattyi would get out of that habit if i were you
17:42.16p3nguindialplan reload would be more appropriate.
17:42.42ManxPower-workkjs: you realize that the sample config files are NOT designed to be a working system, right?
17:42.46[TK]D-Fenderkjs: You still haven't shown us anything.
17:43.00kjsill pastebin my ext.conf
17:43.13p3nguinGood idea!
17:43.59bmoraca_workgod, Telepacific is a terrible freaking company to deal with
17:44.02Kattyi can haz nap now pls?
17:45.14Naikrovekon my authority, you can nap
17:45.23Naikrovekif your boss yells, tell him naikrovek said it was okay
17:45.41kjsit's only really basic, and now, er broken, following instructions from the * book (blue cover oreily one) http://pastebin.com/d6fee9d51
17:45.50Kattylol. knowing my boss, he'd probably turn the lights off for me
17:46.07Naikroveki would
17:46.07Kattyand turn my ringtone up real loud ;)
17:46.16Naikrovekif you need a nap, you need a nap.  just don't make a habit of it
17:46.28Kattypeople nap here all the time
17:46.39Kattya brief nap is much more responsible than going home for the entire afternoon
17:46.45Naikrovekyes
17:47.12p3nguinkjs: Try "dialplan show 100@internal" and see what it shows.
17:47.30p3nguin#
17:47.31p3nguinexten => 100,n,(busy),VoiceMail(100@default,b)
17:47.36kjsThere is no existence of 'internal' context
17:47.37kjsCommand 'dialplan show 100@internal' failed.
17:47.38p3nguinerror
17:47.38[TK]D-Fenderkjs: include => internal <-- well [internal] only has 500 in it
17:47.46p3nguinIt has more than that in it.
17:47.56kjsand the 2 ext's
17:48.01kjs100 and 101
17:48.03[TK]D-Fenderkjs: [incoming_calls] <- THIS has other stuff you're probably thinking of
17:48.26[TK]D-FenderHrm... misread a comment
17:48.26p3nguinIt has 1, 42, 100, 101, 500, 7000.
17:48.38Naikroveklotto numbers
17:48.45Katty[TK]D-Fender: how dare you misread something
17:48.49Katty[TK]D-Fender: that is unacceptabuhls.
17:48.52p3nguinkjs: At any rate, you have an error in syntax in "exten => 100,n,(busy),VoiceMail(100@default,b)"
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17:49.11[TK]D-Fenderkjs: pastebin "dialplan show"
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17:51.00kjs[TK]D-Fender: http://pastebin.com/d244a7284
17:51.55[TK]D-Fenderkjs: Clearly your extensions.conf is not even being touched.  Is this renamed ".old" like you mentioned about earlier?
17:52.01[TK]D-Fenderkjs: Who si the oWNER of the file?
17:52.24[TK]D-Fenderkjs: Is the filename spelled properly?
17:53.37kjsoh ffs, I missed the S off the end, it's called extension.conf, we will never mention this Fail again?
17:54.03Chainsawkjs: What happens in the #asterisk, stays in the #asterisk.
17:54.19Naikrovekespecially chainsaw massacres
17:55.21Kattyso ryan told me there was a big accident in front of our house last thursday
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17:55.36Naikrovekdid the cam's catch it
17:55.45Kattythat's what i'm checking
17:55.56Kattyapparently it was a mustang and a minivan
17:56.03benngardhmmm "ast_tcptls_client_start: Unable to connect SIP socket" got a fealing that something is broken in trunk :(
17:57.13Kattyhttp://www.ustream.tv/recorded/4639158 <- you can help me check Naikrovek
17:57.25kjsok back to where I was 2 hours ago, phones are working, MeetMe is still a fail.
17:58.56p3nguinkjs: What's the ERROR this time?
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17:59.10kjshttp://pastebin.com/d708a7ca6
17:59.16kjsand no the module is not in the dir.
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17:59.42kjsill double check make menuconfig, but im sure it's ticked.
17:59.52p3nguinGo back and rebuild the module.
17:59.52[TK]D-Fenderkjs: module load app_meetme.so
18:00.02[TK]D-Fenderkjs: You seem to have a problem with FILENAMES
18:00.12p3nguinoh, hah!
18:00.21[TK]D-Fenderkjs: app_meetme.so <- Learn. How. To. SPELL.
18:00.30carrarKatty, who's truck is that?
18:00.38p3nguinwhose
18:00.42Kattycarrar: that's ryan's truck
18:00.45carrarnice
18:00.50kjshttp://pastebin.com/d6391ff18
18:01.08carrarNeed some real 4X4 tires on it
18:01.21[TK]D-Fenderkjs: Trash your modules folder.  Recompile and install * again
18:01.22Kattycarrar: he doesn't off-road with his truck
18:01.33kjs[TK]D-Fender: roger
18:01.40[TK]D-FenderKatty: He's to young to be a yuppie
18:02.08carrartoo much spam on your web cam
18:02.26Kattycarrar: can't help it.
18:02.43Kattycarrar: ustream.tv doesn't have a Paid Account option that i can find
18:02.54Katty5 minutes in, looks like i just left for work. should be about 7:45 or so
18:03.03Kattywhich means in another 45 minutes the accident should happen
18:03.25carrarAccident?
18:03.46Kattyryan told me last thursday there was a wreck in front of our house, about 8:30AM
18:03.54Kattyso i am reviewing crittercam recordings to see if i can find it
18:04.03Kattycarrar: http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/4639158
18:04.15carrarYou could have a key piece of evidence!
18:04.20Kattyyep
18:04.21Kattyi might
18:04.59Katty41 minutes in...still nothing
18:05.15carrarmaybe it was all lies to cover up something!!
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18:05.43QwellDetective Katty?!
18:06.04carrarPerhaps it's a critter merder cover up story
18:06.11KattyQwell: :P
18:06.15KattyQwell: more like curious
18:06.21carrarwaits forp3nguin
18:06.25carrarhaha
18:06.48Kattymy luck is a big squirrel tail will be right in the way of the whole thing
18:07.19carrarwoah
18:07.37carrarWho was that
18:07.40carrarwith the garbage?
18:07.52carrarcould be dead bodies in that bag
18:08.22p3nguinkatty: The recording with the time of 8:40 is actually 7:40?
18:08.35Kattyohoh
18:08.36Kattyminivan
18:08.42Kattyhmm
18:08.44Kattyno wreck tho
18:08.52Kattyp3nguin: yeah
18:09.03Kattytrash pickup shows up at 1:40 IN
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18:10.23p3nguinkatty: Look at 13:26
18:11.18Kattyk
18:11.20Kattygoes back
18:11.31carrarWhen do the naked people start frolicing in the yard?
18:11.37Katty^_-
18:11.53Kattywaits for it
18:11.57p3nguinkatty: At about 13 minutes, the guy gets into the van up on the hill.
18:12.04Kattyoh crap
18:12.05Kattylol
18:12.08Kattydang, there it is
18:12.32Kattymade a left and wasn't even watchin
18:12.58Kattyand he...drives off?
18:13.06Kattyaren't you supposed to exchange insurance..call the cops...somethin
18:13.11Kattyoooh
18:13.11p3nguinHe didn't bother making a full stop at the intersection.
18:13.17Kattythey pulled off to the side of the roadd
18:13.18Kattyhmmm
18:13.23KattyOTHER CAMERA
18:13.42Kattyp3nguin: there is no stop sign
18:13.48Kattyp3nguin: the mini van has a yield sign tho
18:13.55carrarAll Isee is a truck
18:14.05Kattycarrar: 13:26
18:14.14[TK]D-Fenderp3nguin: can you link it more directly?
18:14.29Kattylooks like i didn't have the bird bath camera recording that day. bummer.
18:16.02p3nguin[tk]d-fender: I'm not sure what you mean.
18:16.14[TK]D-Fenderkjs: p3nguin nvm, now it let me seek...
18:16.40jayteesquirrels are getting boring. we need badgers and marmots
18:17.05Kattyjaytee: but there was just a wreck!
18:17.08Kattyjaytee: on crittercam!
18:17.12Kattyjaytee: that's not boring
18:17.36jayteedang! I missed it
18:17.47Kattyhttp://www.ustream.tv/recorded/4639158 <- jaytee 13:26 into the video
18:18.27carrarand you leave the truck parked on teh street!
18:18.31carrarheh
18:18.41carrarjust waiting to be hit
18:19.05carrarwaoh they are throwing punches
18:19.10carrarit's a fight!!
18:19.20Kattyno they're not
18:19.24Kattythey pulled off the road
18:19.25carrarthey should
18:19.25p3nguinI think the actual contact was at 13:24, just to be precise.
18:19.49kjshttp://pastebin.com/m2836344f
18:19.55kjsyay new errors :)
18:20.12Kattyi wonder what else has happened on crittercam for the last few months which i just never noticed
18:20.24[TK]D-Fenderkjs: Did you initialize DAHDI BEFORE starting *?
18:20.26jayteeKatty, do you get kickbacks from Castrol for the advertisements?
18:20.40kjs[TK]D-Fender: negative
18:20.59kjsI think i need a new * book this is out of date
18:21.17Naikrovek~thebook
18:21.18infobotextra, extra, read all about it, thebook is Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf --- HTML at http://astbook.asteriskdocs.org
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18:21.21Naikrovekkjs: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
18:21.22QwellKatty: if that was a hit and run, you should probably contact the local PD..  I'm sure they'd be extremely interested in that video
18:21.35carrarcall the FBI
18:21.37carrarNFL
18:21.46carrarNBA
18:21.46p3nguinkjs: Make sure you load the dahdi_dummy kernel module.
18:21.55p3nguinqwell: It wasn't hit and run.
18:21.55kjshow do I init dahdi
18:22.16p3nguinkjs: "modprobe dahdi_dummy"
18:22.26p3nguinkjs: system console, not asterisk console
18:22.49p3nguinkatty: Is that a 4-way or just a T intersection?
18:22.50kjslol this is the book I have a hard copy of.
18:23.07kjsp3nguin: ja im just a asterisk noob not a unix one :)
18:23.18Kattyp3nguin: it's a T
18:23.25Kattyp3nguin: if you were to go straight, you'd be in my driveway
18:23.43KattyQwell: no, they pulled off to the side of the road
18:23.59Naikrovekkjs: it's the most recent asterisk book.  the PDF is 2nd edition, you have 2nd?  3rd edition is being written afaik
18:24.01Kattyjaytee: ustream.tv doesn't have a paid account option :<
18:24.05p3nguinThey stopped to talk about it before going off camera, though.
18:24.05kjsWahoo, "you are currently the only person in this confrence"
18:24.13bmoraca_workwow...dude driving the van's a moron
18:24.25Kattyyep, he didn't check for traffic, just pulled out
18:24.42Katty12:54 is when he goes out to his van
18:24.55Kattypulls out at 13:11
18:24.59bmoraca_workdidn't look like there was any damage, though.  there wasn't even any red on the van
18:25.06Kattyhis shadow doesn't even stop
18:25.06p3nguinkatty: Do you know the person, or was he likely just a service person working up there?
18:25.15Kattyi don't know
18:25.19Kattyhmm
18:25.21Kattyone way to find out
18:25.29Kattylet's check another morning and see if the van is parked there (=
18:25.38p3nguinCheck other videos for his ...
18:25.41p3nguinright
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18:26.21Kattyyep
18:26.24Kattysame van is there on 1/31
18:27.29Kattyi don't know him tho
18:27.33benngardbefore i post to https://issues.asterisk.org/, can some1 give me a hand to make sure i havnt fucked up things?
18:27.42Kattybenngard: hey now.
18:27.53Kattybenngard: let's use snickerdoodles, or razzleberries.
18:28.38benngardgives Katty a big swedish hug!
18:28.44Katty(=
18:30.12benngardif u add tcpenable=yes and transport=tcp,udp in sip.conf together with qualify=yes u get tons of ast_tcptls_client_start: Unable to connect SIP socket to" when u restart *
18:30.51benngardbut if u change to transport=udp everything is fine
18:31.39heholbenngard: is this Asterisk 1.6.2?
18:31.49benngardnop trunk
18:32.14benngardbut i guess it is the same in 1.6.2, did try to follow the code
18:32.31[TK]D-Fenderbenngard: Use a full * release version
18:33.11benngardi would if the ooh323 channel was working in the full * release version
18:34.43benngardand if CONNECTEDLINE had been in 1.6.2, people in sweden are so used with that behavior of a phone
18:34.44heholDo you have tlsenable=yes set?
18:35.07benngardno, just tcpenable
18:35.28benngardi was actaully thinking about tlsenable
18:35.47heholThen it's a bug for sure. The TLS code should not be called if the feature is disabled.
18:36.41heholI tried qualify=yes the other day with a TCP peer and ran into the same problems. Haven't had the time to report a bug, though.
18:37.09heholAsterisk will also try to load the X.509 certificate even with tlsenable=no, which is another bug ...
18:37.41benngardi didnt set tlsenable=no but i thought it was default
18:37.59Kattyhmm.
18:38.02Kattyi have a sudden craving
18:38.06KattyDR PEPPER
18:38.10filetcp and tls both use the same common code, one is just wrapped in ssl stuff
18:38.16Kattyoh look, it's file
18:38.26Kattycome out from under his rock, i see
18:38.27fileKatty: where? O.O
18:38.32Kattyhugs file
18:38.41filetickles Katty
18:38.42benngardhehol: i will have some time tomorrow morning, will file a bug report then
18:39.35benngardi do know exactly how to reproduce it so it will be a walk in the park to submit it
18:40.13Kattyinteresting. oz per oz, dr pepper has about the same calorie content as onion
18:40.13Kattyonion is 11 calories per oz, dr pepper 12.5
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18:40.14fileKatty: I have peach juice.
18:40.14funtoo_nbuhow do you run console with timestamps?
18:40.16Kattyfile: that stuff's about....160 cal/c?
18:40.24Katty140?
18:40.37funtoo_nbu-T my bad
18:40.49fileKatty: real peach juice? no idea.
18:40.56Kattychecks
18:42.04funtoo_nbuugh this aint showing timestamps
18:42.12funtoo_nbuhow can i get timestamps on console when a phone rings etc
18:42.27Kattyfile: about 160 a cup
18:43.06Kattyfile: if you juiced the peach yourself
18:43.20Kattyfile: if it's a commercial product, which has added sugar to it...then obviously more
18:43.20fileKatty: awfully personal thing to say
18:43.38kjsI found an error with the book.
18:44.17kjsNot a biggie, it might of already been fixed, anyone know the author, iirc he used to hang around in here?
18:44.31Kattyfile: hrmm. the daily plate suggests 110 a cup
18:45.22Kattyfile: 13.75 an oz
18:45.36Kattyfile: oranges are 13 cals an oz. (=
18:46.09bmoraca_workKatty: pear cider = yum
18:46.25Kattypear cider is dreamy
18:46.51fileoffers Katty a clementine
18:47.32Kattybmoraca_work: http://42ndrecipestreet.blogspot.com/2009/11/steves-apple-pie-liquor.html <- replace apple with pear.
18:47.45p3nguinkatty: What model of camera is that?
18:48.05Kattydunno.
18:48.07Kattysteve took the picture
18:48.26p3nguinkatty: Err, no... the camera which captured the collision.
18:48.36KattyOH
18:48.45Kattythat is a logitech pro quickcam 9000
18:48.58Kattyset at 640x480 resolution, 10fps, 300Kbps upload speed
18:49.32Kattyp3nguin: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104074
18:50.02Kattyp3nguin: the camera is capable of full HD quality, but my upload speed can't handle piping out that resolution
18:50.11Kattyp3nguin: especially when i have two cameras broadcasting
18:50.32bmoraca_workKatty: lol @ "Pour in everclear. Stir. Get the diabetus."
18:50.36Kattyp3nguin: the two broadcasting workstations reboot themselves just before we get home at 5:15
18:50.43p3nguinkatty: Hmm, $64 on ebay.  Did you also get a camera that costs around $125?
18:51.15p3nguinkatty: What's the purpose of the reboots?
18:51.22Kattyno, the other broadcasting camera is a logitech c600
18:51.26Kattywhich is about 80 on newegg
18:51.47Kattythe reboot closes the two running applications, adobe's flash media encoder and firefox
18:52.04Kattywhich effectly clears all traffic
18:52.33Kattywhen they come back up, firefox and the flash media encoder are in the Startup folder, so they relaunch
18:52.52Kattyin the morning, i vnc into the two boxes and start the broadcast again
18:53.23Kattywhen both cameras are broadcasting, it hogs around 600kbps or so, and since our wireless is built into the router, it really bogs the router down too
18:53.42Kattyit's easier to just have the two windows boxes reboot themselves.
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18:54.15Kattyhi mister monk
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19:12.24jpcansaanyone have a script to check that asterisk is running, so that i can run it at cron?
19:12.43Qwelljpcansa: look at the safe_asterisk script
19:13.06muiroIs there any way to mute/deafen a SIP/IAX peer from either CLI or AMI?
19:13.08jpcansaok cool
19:14.01Corydon76-digWell, you can deafen them by redirecting the channel to a playback of an airhorn
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19:14.46kjsRight i have most things working, now I just need to create a call queue
19:14.55muiroby "deafen" I obviously don't mean physically, I mean make it so that they receive no audio
19:15.01kjsany advice?
19:15.28muiroif I re-direct them to a channel playing MOH or something, won't that run the hangup extension for the context they were already in?
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19:20.57[TK]D-Fenderkjs: "queues.conf.sample" + "core show application queue" <- VERY FINE MANUALS
19:21.39[TK]D-Fendermuiro: peer is a device.  You want all calls from/to them to be changed?
19:24.38muiro[TK]D-Fender: this in an attempt to add some functionality to our conferences. We want to be able to, basically, mute all audio to/from a conference member, then bring them back in on command.
19:25.19muiro[TK]D-Fender: basically, I want to mute all audio to/from a device
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19:26.06LemensTSive been trying to do attended transfer for a week...can someone take a look at this? http://pastebin.ca/1797520
19:26.48[TK]D-Fendermuiro: Not a device... a CALL
19:27.57[TK]D-FenderLemensTS: What phone are you using?
19:29.32[TK]D-Fendermuiro: IIRC there is an AMI command that lets you execute a command against an active channel.  This is normally used for things like "Playback" or announcements or whatever.  In this case I'd try calling func_volume
19:29.41LemensTSTKD-Fender: 1234 is iSip client on Iphone. 222222222 is PAP2 ata, the other is Xlite Eyebeam
19:30.08[TK]D-FenderLemensTS: Might also help to see your features.conf
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19:36.13LemensTSTKD: http://pastebin.ca/1797533
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19:47.04[TK]D-FenderLemensTS: A calls B.  B Answers.  A enters *2 and is prompted to transfer.  A dials and the call progresses to C.  C answers.  All parties dumped instantly?
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20:00.53chilicuilHi, I've changed the LAN sub range from 192.168.1.0 to 10.9.8.0 and asterisk stopped taking the incoming calls, I've already changed the -localnet- parameter in the sip.conf file but I can see (sip show channel _channel) asterisk keeps using the last ip (192.168.1.72), I've already rebooted and checked the port forwarding is working, any suggestion?
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20:04.21[TK]D-Fender~sipnat
20:04.22infobot[~sipnat] Quick guide on configuring * + SIP behind NAT : http://www.aocomputing.net/?p=3 , otherwise check the WIKI at http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+SIP+NAT+solutions
20:04.23[TK]D-Fender^^^^^^^
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20:23.00gandhijeehey, anyone know that anaconda name for asterisk?
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20:26.34funtoo_nbu[Feb 15 07:20:37] ERROR[25119] chan_sip.c: Serious Network Trouble; __sip_xmit returns error for pkt data
20:26.56funtoo_nbuanyone know what this is?
20:27.51muiro[TK]D-Fender: any idea where I can find that AMI command to run a command against an active channel?
20:28.46[TK]D-Fendermuiro: in the BOOK.. or perhaps one of the docs that came with *
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20:39.57muiro[TK]D-Fender: The only thing I can find in the documentation and the book is the AMI command SetVar. Can I use that to say, set VOLUME(rx) to 0?
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20:40.20muiro[TK]D-Fender: that command gives me the option of the channel on which to set it. That probably won't work, I'm thinking.
20:40.33[TK]D-Fendermuiro: No.  there is a comamnd to execute an APPLICATION against a channel.
20:40.54muiro[TK]D-Fender: must not be documented. Let me dig into the manager code
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20:56.41staffmemberAnyone know anything about cisco extensions .tlv? tftp server tells me my 7975g is looking for a file that ends in .tlv,
20:56.49staffmembercant find nothing on google other than bogus tftp stuff?
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20:57.20muiro[TK]D-Fender: looks like manager.c does not contain any such manager action
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21:05.26Kattyweeeeeeeeeeeeeee
21:05.28[TK]D-Fendermuiro: Indeed what I thought might exist does not seem to.  So no way to stop them from hering stuff.
21:05.31[TK]D-Fender~whee
21:05.32infobot[~whee] Weeeeeeeee! http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/weeee
21:06.09muiro[TK]D-Fender: that's depressing. I'll find a way to make it work.
21:07.48muiro[TK]D-Fender: any way to run an application on a channel from the CLI?
21:10.34[TK]D-Fendermuiro: that's the sort of thing I was looking for.. if there is you could call that via AMI, etc
21:11.14muiro[TK]D-Fender: I'm going to try SetVar. I know a variable and a function are not the same thing, but this isn't a production system so I'm not going to hurt anyone
21:12.43jaytee"Put the variable down and step away from the keyboard with your hands raised!!!"
21:13.17muiro[TK]D-Fender: my next idea is to boot the user from the conference with MeetMeAdmin, then have them loop in the dialplan until maybe a database record is set to "rejoin" or something.
21:13.58[TK]D-Fendermuiro: tht is something you can do without too much trouble
21:14.47muiro[TK]D-Fender: yeah, I'm already using mysql for a really customized CDR. I can easily put another field on there, set it when kicking, then set it back when I want them to rejoin
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21:17.46muiro[TK]D-Fender: the reason I can't just transfer/redirect the call is because I have some of my CDR functionality built in to the h extension in context the party joins the conference in. If I take that functionality and put it into the 'command module' that I built to bridge into the conference instead, then I could transfer them too. Either way would work.
21:18.41muiro[TK]D-Fender: I might just change where teh CDR stuff gets updated. That sounds like a cleaner solution than a loop with DB lookups.
21:20.13muiro[TK]D-Fender: anyway, thanks for the assistance, as always
21:20.41smooth_penguindo I need to pay for skype support within asterisk?
21:20.51[TK]D-Fendermuiro: Are you working on a complete conferencing platform with this?
21:21.04[TK]D-Fendersmooth_penguin: Yes
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21:22.11muiro[TK]D-Fender: Yeah. Basically a way to extend functionality available to conference users, mostly using dialplan. Our original intention was to avoid using the AMI, but because of certain other considerations we've found we absolutely need to use AMI, so the whole project might go away
21:22.57muiro[TK]D-Fender: and mostly it's to allow a conference user to dial someone into the conference, and to enable sound playback into the conference.
21:24.54muiro[TK]D-Fender: those and a couple of other features are done. The mute/deafen thing is basically the last part
21:25.20[TK]D-Fendermuiro: built in functionality doesn't see to let you do this stuff dynamically... go read  func_volume's code and see if you can't quickly hack it into a "mod target channel" instead
21:26.04muiro[TK]D-Fender: the thought had crossed my mind.
21:26.28muiro[TK]D-Fender: I'm a c developer but I have yet to really dive into asterisk's code.
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21:31.13[TK]D-Fendercheckout time, BBIAb
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21:54.11rubberneckwhen i do a dialplan show <tab> I have a bunch of contexts that show as "ael-*" where are these coming from?
21:55.15ManxPower-workrubberneck: They must be coming from your AEL stuff.
21:56.07ManxPower-workAre you sure you're not doing something silly like trying to run a system with the sample config files?
21:56.14carrarhaha
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21:56.23carrarThats silly
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22:02.16Kattyeyes the clock
22:02.33Kattyi do believe it might be time to head home
22:02.42Kattyso i will catch you all on de flip side
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22:06.18staffmemberAnyone know anything about cisco extensions .tlv? tftp server tells me my 7975g is looking for a file that ends in .tlv,
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22:09.28rubberneckManxPower-work: Where are those files at? I dont see them included in extensions.conf
22:09.58niekvlesserthello all, do you know a way to integrate some tool in a linux proxy (squid) so that all phone numbers become click to dial?
22:10.13rizwankIs there a 'right' way to get Asterisk 1.6.2.2 into an AsteriskNow box - are there compatible RPMs out there?
22:11.21bmoraca_workrizwank: i suspect compiling from source will get you there
22:11.40rizwankit will, but since one of the luxuries of Asterisknow is a simple yum update ...
22:12.18bmoraca_workrizwank: if the maintainers of that repository have not yet updated their packages to the new version, then that "luxury" gets you nowhere
22:13.23rubberneckWhat are these .ael files? extensions.ael?
22:13.27rizwank, well distributing the build across ten servers isn't something I'm looking forward to doing. But yeah, I could build from source. Thanks.
22:13.32bmoraca_workrubberneck: yes.
22:14.34bmoraca_workrizwank: what do you want me to do?  build you an RPM for it?  you could also do that yourself.  then again, you might find someone who has already done that in the correct IRC room:  #asterisknow .  So don't get snippy with me because you haven't found someone else to do your work for you yet
22:14.46rubberneckbmoraca_work: i have never noticed that file, why is there an extensions.ael? I have always used extensions.conf
22:15.19bmoraca_workrubberneck: AEL is just a different way of building extensions and contexts.  You can use either or both, if you'd like.  if you don't need AEL, just delete the file
22:16.00bmoraca_work(or empty it)
22:16.44ManxPower-workrubberneck: that files has been around since Asterisk 1.2
22:17.50ManxPower-workI'm surprised the Asterisk book doesn't talk about AEL.
22:17.52rubberneckAlright, I just never noticed it. Not sure why i need 2 extensions files, especially when I can include any file or directory I want from within extensions.conf.
22:18.05rizwankbmoraca - Sorry, I was being snippy because I'm used to 'built it from source' being the default answer, even when there are packages available. I assumed you were doing that. As far as getting 1.6.2 on, you're right, that's the way to do if digium hasn't decided to support it yet.
22:18.07bmoraca_worki wonder if Asterisk will ever support TCL or VoiceXML...  that could be neat, and would be a big selling point to replacing other PBXes
22:19.06ManxPower-workrizwank: other channels may have other answers than "Build it from source."  Maybe the #AsteriskNOW channel since, unlike the people on this channel, they might actually use AsteriskNOW.
22:19.31ManxPower-workbmoraca_work: Digium partnered with a VoiceXML company.  You can get it for Asterisk
22:20.04bmoraca_workthe last time i used asterisknow, the interface was so clunky and aweful that it was way easier to maintain everything myself anyway
22:20.14rizwankManx - I'm asking there now. Thanks. Do you (and bmoraca) build from source and manually maintain on CentOS boxen?
22:20.17bmoraca_workManxPower-work: really?  that's neat.
22:20.35ManxPower-workrizwank: virtually everyone except those that rely on GUIS install from source.
22:20.36rizwankMostly is for ease of OS setup rather than anything else. installing across a few VMs.
22:20.49bmoraca_workrizwank: i work under the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" mentality.  unless there is a VERY compelling reason to upgrade, I generally don't.
22:21.03ManxPower-workOnce I'm happy with a build, I'll turn it into a custom RPM for deployment
22:21.38ManxPower-workrizwank: When you use AsteriskNOW you give up most everything that makes Asterisk great.
22:21.49rizwankI'm editing via CLI.
22:21.52bmoraca_work^^ there's also that option.  and if i were more dilligent, i probably would set up my own internal repo for asterisk packages
22:23.07ManxPower-workrizwank: You mean you are editing the GUI generated config files by hand.  That is even more of a hassle.
22:23.18rizwankHmm.
22:23.35rizwankintersting.
22:23.42rizwankDo you use CentOS as a host?
22:23.51bmoraca_worki use centos, yes
22:24.00ManxPower-workAnyway, by asking AsteriskNOW questions here, you've already shown us all we need to know.
22:24.11rizwankthat it's poorly supported?
22:24.12rizwankaye.
22:24.32ManxPower-worknope.  That you ask in the wrong places.
22:24.47ManxPower-workpoorly supported?  You mean not supported at all here.
22:24.53bmoraca_workrizwank: there's a general misunderstanding that GUIs make things easier.  they generally don't.  there are certain aspects of them that CAN make life easier, but for the most part, they just make it more confusing and more difficult to troubleshoot
22:24.55ManxPower-work~asterisknow
22:24.56infobotmethinks asterisknow is based on Asterisk, but is difficult to support in #asterisk for a number of reasons.  Please seek support in #asterisknow instead.
22:25.15rizwank*chuckle*. Most of the AsteriskNow help I've gotten is in this channel. In fact, I was referred to it in this channel.
22:25.41carrarblastphemer
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22:26.43rizwankI'm not saying it was *good advice* =)
22:26.52bmoraca_workif you already know a fair amount about asterisk and don't mind wading through several megabytes of code to figure things out and tweak things, freepbx can be fairly useful.  if you don't know much about asterisk, you'll tear your hair out by the time you've finished basic installation and you can't dial out your "sip trunk"
22:26.59ManxPower-worknaw, like yelling fire during a department store sale to clear the place out do you can get the item you want -- they care little about the problems they cause.
22:29.01ManxPower-workDo you also ask PHP questions in a Perl channel?  They syntax is so similar and everything.  Do you ask Mac questions on a Windows channel?  They are both graphical, run on the same intel hardware -- they are practically clones.
22:31.14rizwankManxPower-work - the question could easily be answered by pointing me to a 1.6.2 Asterisk RPM repo - in fact, that's what I expected to happen. I mentioned it was for Now to narrow down the parameter, but 1.6.2 rpms would be fine too. That's an #Asterisk question, isn't it?
22:32.10[TK]D-Fenderrizwank: *Now has a repo.  Go cruise it.  That's the closest thing to "official" that we've got, and that's not actually hosted off off asterisk.org technically.
22:32.42krefikis that true that every time someone uses asterix gui god kills a kitten?
22:32.48ManxPower-workIt's not like you should expect a stock Asterisk to work with AsteriskNOW anyway.
22:32.57bmoraca_workkrefik: god kills 5 kittens
22:33.24ManxPower-workkrefik: not at all.  But when they use an asterisk gui they do.
22:34.37krefikso what to use to kill more kittens? asterisk-gui? freepbx? ;>
22:34.40rizwankOkay, how about another question? I've got an incoming call to the server, and going to an AGI Script. Other tests of this script looks right - but in this case, ASterisk sends a SIGHUP almost immediately. Then the call retries instantly and opens an new channel. The log is spammed with "Using SIP RTP CoS mark 5" messages.
22:35.07rizwankthe only issues I can find that seem to correlate are from two years ago, and the associated bugs were fixed in 1.6.0.
22:35.28bmoraca_workkrefik: asterisk-gui kills more kittens than freepbx because it uses users.conf...and that's the ultimate sin
22:36.11ManxPower-workIs this a FastAGI script or a regular AGI script?
22:36.44krefikbmoraca_work: fcuk, can't get it working :/ so when I'm using only vim to configure asterisk I got to kill kittens by hand?
22:37.29rizwankIn fact, aside from AGI, even if I put a background in, I get this
22:37.29rizwank<PROTECTED>
22:39.12[TK]D-Fenderrizwank: meaningless
22:39.18ManxPower-workThat means virtually nothing
22:39.31rizwankyeah. Well, it happens instanlty after a background play.
22:39.58[TK]D-Fenderrizwank: And do we see your dialplan and call CLI output?  Nope....
22:40.36ManxPower-workrizwank: yeah.  Well, it doesn't mean "error" or "problem"
22:41.11ManxPower-work[TK]D-Fender: maybe because the CLI output will likely be a jumble of overly complex dialplan spagetti code because of the GUI?
22:41.47rizwankit's three lines.
22:42.01ManxPower-workrizwank: then my all means, put it in pastebin.ca
22:43.14Dibrihow do I see the"dahdi" command in the cli of asterisk/?
22:43.39ManxPower-workDibri: Does "help" list it as a command?
22:45.41rizwankManx - http://pastebin.ca/1797734
22:46.05rizwankAn indication of what debugs to turn on to suss out why the call might be terminating would be helpful. sip debug wasn't showing anything helpful
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22:46.43ManxPower-workDoes it play the sound file to the caller?
22:46.47rizwanknegative.
22:47.07rizwankbut that same line in a different ext works fine, so the file exists.
22:47.10ManxPower-workTry playing one of the STOCK sound files.
22:48.50ManxPower-workDo you understand that Background will hangup the channel as soon as it is done playing, right?
22:49.32rizwanksame problem.
22:49.38rizwankYes.
22:49.51rizwankIt was simply a debug step that I knew worked to remove the AGI out of the debugging equation.
22:49.55ManxPower-workwhat is your verbosity set to
22:50.17rizwankat least 22 ;p
22:50.18ManxPower-workBut I do not see an AGI anywhere in that CLI output.
22:50.33rizwankbecause i short circuited it
22:50.37rizwankand placed something simpler before it.
22:50.42ManxPower-workSo why are we talking about it?
22:50.48rizwankbecause the background isn't playing
22:50.52rizwankthe call terminates the second it starts.
22:51.00rizwankeven though the background has a non zero length
22:51.06ManxPower-workAnd that has nothing whatsoever to do with an AGI, right?
22:51.13rizwankyes.
22:51.24ManxPower-workThen lets stop talking about the AGI.
22:51.31rizwank(Correct. The first question noted that Asterisk was sending a sighup.)
22:51.33rizwankOkay.
22:51.40ManxPower-workset debug on and try it again.
22:52.00rizwankset debug on comes back with an error on the CLI.
22:52.03niekvlessertjay, got chan_misdn working finally
22:52.03niekvlessertmISDN (svn co http://svn.digium.com/svn/thirdparty/mISDNuser/upstream/1.1.9/ en svn co http://svn.digium.com/svn/thirdparty/mISDN/trunk/)
22:52.12niekvlessertthose are the ones you want...
22:52.13ManxPower-workrizwank: "help debug"
22:52.24rizwankNo such command 'debug'.
22:52.35ManxPower-worktry "help"
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22:52.55rizwankworks. decently long list.
22:53.15ManxPower-worknow figure out how to set debug
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22:55.07Dibrisorry
22:55.10rizwankI did core set debug 50. Is that what you wanted?
22:55.10Dibriinet went down
22:55.13rizwankResults are here : http://pastebin.ca/1797742
22:55.22Dibriso doesanyne know how to get dahdi to appear in my CLI?
22:55.46rizwankSetting SIP_ALREADYGONE on dialog call-F133BB59-B5FC-2C10-0605-12E745@210.80.137.18-2
22:56.25ManxPower-workrizwank: set canreinvite=no and directrtp=no in sip.conf
22:56.36ManxPower-workthen "sip reload"
22:58.02ManxPower-workDibri: Does "help" show a dahdi command?
22:58.09DibriManxPower-work: nope
22:58.18rizwanknegative. http://pastebin.ca/1797746
22:58.21ManxPower-workDibri: did you install dahdi?
22:58.33DibriManxPower-work: rpm -qa seems to think I did
22:58.42DibriManxPower-work: dahdi_test seems to work fine too
22:59.20Dibrishow modules like dahdi also shows 5 modules of dahdi
22:59.32Dibri'show modules like dahdi'
23:00.02ManxPower-workDibri: rpm --we-don-support-rpms-here
23:00.16DibriManxPower-work: does it matter? dahdi is installed
23:00.18trelane--unless-you-pay-the-RPM-tax
23:00.24ManxPower-workDibri: what does "module load chan_dahdi.so" do?
23:00.43ManxPower-worktrelane: --then-you-go-somewhere-else
23:00.56krefikuhm. question. where to start when learning basics of asterisk.configuration? I know voip-info.org, but maybe anyone know some jumpstart tutorial for using asterisk as sip gateway for few phones?
23:01.08ManxPower-workrizwank: try "service iptables stop" in a shell and try it again
23:01.20ManxPower-work~answers
23:01.20infobotanswers is probably Asterisk Book: http://astbook.asteriskdocs.org & SIP w/ NAT: http://www.aocomputing.net/?p=3 & Wiki:  http://www.voip-info.org & docs: /path/to/src/asterisk/doc & 1.4 .vs. 1.6.0 .vs. 1.6.1: : /path/to/src/asterisk/UPGRADE*.txt
23:01.25rizwankip tables isn't up.
23:01.33ManxPower-workkrefik: Asterisk is not something you learn on a day.
23:01.48ManxPower-workrizwank: then there is no harm in issuing the command.
23:01.54rizwankI did. it's already stopped.
23:02.19Dibrioddly enough it says unable to load(although it shows in the "show"
23:02.20ManxPower-workThen the only thing left to do is do a sip debug and hope someone like [TK]D-Fender has the time to help you.
23:02.42ManxPower-workDibri: EXACTLY what did it print?
23:02.44krefikManxPower-work: maybe in three? ;-)
23:02.50rizwankI'll diff this and a working call server and see what I can find. Thanks.
23:02.54DibriManxPower-work: hold on
23:02.54ManxPower-workkrefik: maybe in three months
23:03.21[TK]D-Fender~jerjerguide
23:03.22infobot[~jerjerguide ] Jeremy McNamara's quick sample guide to setting up * :  http://www.jeremy-mcnamara.com/2007/02/26/how-to-configure-asterisk-your-first-installation/
23:03.22krefikManxPower-work: three months to setup phone gateway?
23:03.28[TK]D-Fenderkrefik: ^^^
23:03.37[TK]D-Fenderkrefik: for "inspiration".
23:03.44ManxPower-workkrefik: maybe three weeks before you have a reasonably stable production system
23:04.10[TK]D-Fenderkrefik: Could be a few odd days...
23:04.17[TK]D-Fenderkrefik: before you get the hang of it..
23:04.20ManxPower-workkrefik: Asterisk is not a PBX and it is not a phone gateway.  Asterisk is a toolkit that lets you build a PBX.
23:04.31[TK]D-FenderOr a jukebox
23:04.34DibriManxPower-work: http://pastie.textmate.org/private/tzstu6wwidevwrptyyhyg
23:04.37[TK]D-FenderOr a coffee-machine timer.
23:05.11krefikI'll probably hire someone to deploy production system, I just have to get some understanding of asterisk to get some other software to work
23:05.50[TK]D-Fenderkrefik: Start with the BOOK, and look at that guide I linked you
23:05.51DibriManxPower-work: does it make any sense?
23:06.09ManxPower-workDibri: Try "module unload chan_dahdi.so" then "module load chan_dahdi.so"
23:06.10krefik[TK]D-Fender: I'm reading that guide now
23:06.23ManxPower-workDibri: what version of Asterisk?
23:06.48DibriManxPower-work: http://pastie.textmate.org/private/uvnrwwvnzog0wk1bgzosg
23:06.53LemensTS<[TK]D-Fender> LemensTS: A calls B.  B Answers.  A enters *2 and is prompted to transfer.  A dials and the call progresses to C.  C answers.  All parties dumped instantly?  <----- The same thing happened. MOH started for phone B, phone A and C are connected. Phone A hangsup, and that hangs up Phone B and C also.
23:07.18DibriManxPower-work: Asterisk 1.6.0.21,
23:07.34ManxPower-workDibri: you'll have to contact the person that built the package.
23:07.48krefik[TK]D-Fender: I started reading The Book, but I want just set up some testing system to try how some other bit of software works with asterisk
23:07.56DibriManxPower-work: why's that?
23:08.16krefik[TK]D-Fender: and 49 config files just after installation is plain scary ;/
23:08.38Kobazkrefik: you don't need to use all of them
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23:08.42ManxPower-workDibri: because unless you compile from source, we don't know what you are using.  You should not be getting the messages you are getting.
23:08.45Kattyi can't feel my legs
23:08.59DibriManxPower-work: what messages *should* I be getting?
23:09.08KobazKatty: maybe move your hands closer to them
23:09.28ManxPower-workDibri: you should not be getting a message saying "unable to load" and then set messages indicating it loaded all the configuration files.
23:09.33KattyKobaz: i was outside with the pup
23:09.44Kobazit's not that bad outside
23:09.47KattyKobaz: feeling is starting to come back to them tho
23:09.51Kobazonly a little bit of snow
23:09.55Kattychecks temp here
23:10.04DibriManxPower-work: it did not indicated it loaded the, just that it parsed em if that makes any difference
23:10.11krefikKobaz: yup, but they keep scaring me :/
23:10.15Katty19F
23:10.25KattyKobaz: i was stupid and wore my dress pants.
23:10.33KattyKobaz: instead of changing into something more appropriate
23:10.41ReemoHey guys, got two questions: 1st: Is prosody known not to be working with res_jabber? And another (probably often heard) question: i'm using asterisk as an addition to my isdn system. How can i tell Asterisk to ring my SIP phones, but nevertheless wait at least N seconds until voicemail starts?
23:10.59Kobazheh
23:11.16Kattyomg i can feel my cheeks
23:11.17KattyYES
23:11.18Reemocause i think if my sip phones are busy it automatically jumps to voicemail (basic Dial with 30seconds as parameter)
23:11.38KobazReemo: Wait() is useful
23:11.46KobazReemo: paste your dialplan
23:11.50Reemomom
23:12.00*** part/#asterisk ManxPower-work (~EWieling@216.186.151.147)
23:12.11Kobazno i'm not your mom... go pastebin your dialplan
23:12.26Reemo;P
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23:12.55Kattyoh hey, reddit has their own redditroulette now
23:12.59Reemohttp://pastebin.com/m44699981
23:13.08ReemoThis is the excerpt.
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23:13.09Kattysweeeeeeeeeeeeet, where is my webcam
23:13.42ReemoDials my SIP Phones, waits for 30 seconds then jumps to the testing part with hello world (want to replace it with voicemail later)
23:14.05Reemobut if my sip phones are busy (or even not logged on), it automatically jumps to the hello world part
23:14.09Kobazdon't put spaces in your arguments
23:14.21KobazDial(SIP/N95&SIP/WorkStation,30)
23:14.27ReemoOo
23:14.54Kobazit's not a style thing... spaces actually get sent as spaces
23:15.03Kobazand tend to not get what you want
23:15.10Reemoand it will wait 30 seconds no matter if the sip phones are busy or not?
23:15.27Kobazif the phone is busy, the Dial() will immediatly fail, and continue on in the dialplan
23:15.48Reemocan i tell Dial() to not do this?
23:15.53Kobazif you want to do a busy-wait, if the phone is busy, before going to voicemail... then you need to check DIALSTATUS
23:15.56Kobaznope
23:16.10Kobazif DIALSTATUS == BUSY, then you Wait(30)
23:16.44Kobazlook at GotoIf()
23:17.14Kobazyou'll need something like GotoIf($[${DIALSTATUS}=BUSY]...etc)
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23:21.58[TK]D-Fender[18:15]<Reemo>can i tell Dial() to not do this? <- also dial something that WILL ring for the full duration
23:22.29Reemo[TK]D-Fender, is there something like a null extension for this? Or can i create one
23:22.45Kobazyou can create one
23:22.53KobazBut using what i just wrote, will be much easier
23:22.54[TK]D-FenderReemo: Yes... go read up on *'s CHANNEL TYPES.
23:23.17Kobazyou could dial a local channel which does a wait()
23:23.37Kobazbut if you ask me, that's kinda silly for what it seems like you want to do
23:23.46[TK]D-FenderKobaz: A caller will get DEAD AIR during your wait.  And your's assumes the call is instantly rejected
23:24.01Kobaz[TK]D-Fender: true... you would have to add a Ringing()
23:25.25KobazSet(starttime) Ringing() Dial() Set(endtime) Wait(30-(endtime-starttime))
23:26.10KobazSet(starttime) Ringing() Dial() Set(endtime) if busy { Wait(30-(endtime-starttime)) }
23:26.13Kobazthere
23:26.49ReemoD-Fenders is easier, isn't it?
23:27.32Kobazi like doing everything in-line if possible, and avoiding local channels... makes things easier to debug
23:28.03Kobazyou could do dial(sip/foo&sip/bar&local/30@dowait)
23:28.40Kobazand then dowait.  exten _X.  => Wait(${EXTEN})
23:29.03Kobazwhich ever you prefer
23:29.47Kobazbut local channels are pretty cool
23:30.31ReemoThat one is nifty
23:30.46ReemoThanks you two ;)
23:31.02Kobazwelcome
23:31.24Kattymmm dinner in 10min
23:31.48Kobazfor me?
23:32.34[TK]D-FenderKobaz: If you stop screwing up you don't need to debug :)
23:33.04Kobazheh
23:33.05[TK]D-FenderKobaz: And your way also causes a break in ringing, and actually answers the call disrupting call progress.
23:33.38Kobazwhy would it break ringing
23:33.49[TK]D-FenderKobaz: ring cycle de-sync
23:33.52Kobazit should only break ringing if something picks up from the dial()
23:34.11[TK]D-FenderKobaz: And a possible varience depending if they are getting a telco ring prior.  Minor tone difference, etc
23:34.25KattyKobaz: you can have some...i made plenty
23:34.36Kattybrb, oven
23:34.40Kobazi made vodka ala penne the other day
23:34.44Kobazit was quite tasty
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23:35.13cracoucas83Hi everybody
23:35.31cracoucas83I need to retrieve the dialed number inside a set operation
23:35.39cracoucas83with asterisk extensions.conf
23:36.08cracoucas83I already have the caller id num with ${CALLERID(num)}
23:36.25[TK]D-Fendercracoucas83: ${CALLERID(dnid)}
23:36.56cracoucas83I am trying
23:37.53Kobazi love how fast hp servers reboot
23:38.01cracoucas83no it does not work
23:38.10Kobazwe used to use dell, up until recently... takes forever to get to grub
23:38.10[TK]D-Fendercracoucas83: ${CALLERID(dnis)}
23:38.35cracoucas83d-fender it does not get the dialed number
23:38.42Kobazand we got the hp server in two days... as opposed to ordering a dell server january 5th, and getting it.... never
23:38.44[TK]D-Fendercracoucas83: Neither?
23:38.45cracoucas83ok trying dnis
23:39.33cracoucas83no it doesn t work
23:40.33[TK]D-Fendercracoucas83: Show us
23:40.35[TK]D-Fender~pb
23:40.35infobot[~pb] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org ,  http://bin.cakephp.org/ , or apt-get install pastebinit
23:40.37[TK]D-Fender^^^^^^^^^^^^^
23:41.06cracoucas83exten => s,1,Set( 7777777=${CALLERID(dnis)}+${CALLERID(num)})
23:42.24[TK]D-Fendercracoucas83: That doesn't show me anything useful
23:42.45[TK]D-Fendercracoucas83: You just showed me your attempt to set a variable with an illegal name
23:42.58cracoucas83with asterisk-java I get the caller num
23:43.03cracoucas83but not the dialed num
23:43.08[TK]D-Fendercracoucas83: And what is that "+" doing in there?
23:43.09cracoucas83I do not care about the variable
23:43.18cracoucas83just a separator
23:43.22[TK]D-Fendercracoucas83: Show me something REAL
23:44.01cracoucas83what do you mean ?
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23:47.39[TK]D-Fender'craYou showed me one completely broken dialplan line.  Show me REAL working code with real CLI output
23:48.30cracoucas83I know there is an asterisk variable
23:48.36cracoucas83but I can not remeber the name
23:48.40cracoucas83maybe EXTEN
23:48.45cracoucas83it use to work
23:48.49cracoucas83but I lost the code
23:50.28[TK]D-Fendercracoucas83: EXTEN hods it as long as you're in the initial pattern that matched the call.
23:50.44ReemoAhh guys, one last question just came into my mind: Can i tell * to save all voicemail in a specific directory (maybe according to a pattern) ?
23:50.44[TK]D-Fendercracoucas83: But you can't even show us what you're doing let alone what you had.
23:51.02cracoucas83I do not care about the call
23:51.03[TK]D-FenderReemo: asterisk.conf <-
23:51.15[TK]D-Fendercracoucas83: call = evidence = proof if it works or not
23:51.16cracoucas83I only care about the java retrieving the code line
23:51.29[TK]D-Fendercracoucas83: What makes you think I trust your Java either?
23:51.31cracoucas83to know what caller id call what number
23:51.42cracoucas83I have 30 numbers registered in sip.conf
23:51.49cracoucas83I need to know what number is called
23:52.00[TK]D-Fendercracoucas83: "numbers" don't register
23:52.10[TK]D-Fendercracoucas83: Please show us an actual call to try to fix
23:52.32cracoucas83${CALLERID(num)} works
23:52.39cracoucas83I need the other good variable
23:52.44[TK]D-Fendercracoucas83: Stop wasting time....
23:52.47cracoucas83the dialed extensions
23:53.07[TK]D-Fendercracoucas83: Show me that the 2 things I gave you don't work.
23:53.49cracoucas83it gives empty return with my java retrieving
23:53.58Reemo[TK]D-Fender, which directory is it then?
23:54.18[TK]D-Fendercracoucas83: I still don't see anything...
23:54.32[TK]D-FenderReemo: under the spool dir
23:54.44cracoucas83I just need you to find me the good variable to get the dialed extension
23:54.58[TK]D-Fendercracoucas83: You aren't going to get anywhere continuing like this
23:55.11Reemoahhh bingo ^^
23:56.10cracoucas83I just found the solution
23:56.12cracoucas83!!!!!!
23:56.47cracoucas83SIP_HEADER(TO) .......... D-FENDER you think you are good but you can not understand people... so you are not smart at all !!!!!!!
23:57.04[TK]D-Fendercracoucas83: I am not smart? You just sat here and whined and showed nothing
23:57.25cracoucas83you are unable to help me with a simple question
23:57.25[TK]D-Fendercracoucas83: And mouth off after you quietly find the answer after wasting our time?
23:57.54cracoucas83show some humility
23:58.52[TK]D-Fendercracoucas83: I have.  Youseem ready to judge my ability to understand people and that I am "not smart at all" and insult the people who do sit around here helping people all day.
23:59.01[TK]D-Fendercracoucas83: that's biting the hand that feeds.
23:59.27cracoucas83ok ok sorry
23:59.30[TK]D-Fendercracoucas83: You also didn't ever say that your call was coming in via SIP.
23:59.49[TK]D-Fendercracoucas83: Were we supposed to guess that?  Do didn't even provide any useful details to help you with.
23:59.53cracoucas83asterisk = SIP for me

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