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00:28.31 | p3nguin | Where is the md5sum or sha1sum for the AsteriskNOW ISO image? |
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00:53.54 | Katty | hi |
00:54.44 | jaskew | Hi |
00:55.17 | Katty | jaskew: how to fix pls??? |
00:56.17 | jaskew | Katty: recompile then press any key. |
00:56.26 | Katty | jaskew: what is recompile pls??? |
00:57.05 | Katty | p3nguin: what sort of calorically-dense dinner did you make? |
00:57.37 | jaskew | Katty: use "find" to locate all your recom, then put them in a pile |
00:57.57 | jaskew | then light them on fire |
00:57.58 | Katty | jaskew: you have insaned. |
00:58.25 | Katty | hunts for a rice pudding recipe |
00:58.32 | jaskew | I'd help, but I can only fix freePBX |
00:58.40 | Katty | eww. |
00:58.42 | Katty | get out. |
00:58.44 | Katty | ;P |
00:58.45 | p3nguin | katty: I just pulled a DiGiorno pizza off the Pizzaz. |
00:58.48 | jaskew | ha |
00:59.02 | Katty | p3nguin: oooh.. cheesy stuffed crust supreme? |
00:59.09 | Katty | p3nguin: I WILL BE RIGHT OVER |
00:59.29 | jaskew | Katty: are you the one w/ the critter cam, or is that someone else's |
00:59.34 | p3nguin | flat bread pepperoni and fire-roasted pepper |
00:59.39 | Katty | jaskew: Yes, that's me. |
00:59.46 | Katty | p3nguin: oh :< |
01:00.06 | jaskew | I love it - I want to replace my window w/a flat screen and put crittercam up |
01:00.09 | Katty | p3nguin: how is it? |
01:00.19 | Katty | jaskew: heh. |
01:00.21 | Katty | jaskew: well thanks. |
01:00.37 | p3nguin | katty: So far it's not really above average. |
01:00.42 | Katty | :< |
01:00.49 | Katty | p3nguin: bummer. |
01:01.00 | Katty | p3nguin: my dinner is not above average either. |
01:01.09 | Katty | p3nguin: i had a can of kidney beans, and some rice i wanted out of the pantry. |
01:01.21 | Katty | p3nguin: so i made a red beans and rice thing, minus the sausage. |
01:01.50 | Katty | i put tons of spices in it. including cayenne pepper |
01:01.53 | Katty | but it's so blahhh |
01:01.57 | jaskew | are you all on the east coast? Stuck inside from snow? |
01:02.09 | Katty | no, we're in missouri |
01:02.32 | jaskew | Ah. I'm in LosAngeles. Lots of rain today |
01:02.42 | Katty | crittercam isn't broadcasting right now, so if you're watching it's probably a Re-Run |
01:02.56 | jaskew | nah - I didn;t have it up |
01:03.10 | Katty | p3nguin: luckily, i have milk. so i'm going to make rice pudding with the rest of the leftover rice. |
01:04.11 | p3nguin | Supper AND dessert. It's almost like a universal food. |
01:04.30 | Katty | rice is amazing stuff. |
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01:06.12 | jaskew | Do you like Indian food? |
01:06.20 | Katty | some of it |
01:06.33 | Katty | i don't like most of the yogurt based dishes. |
01:06.40 | jaskew | A place out here had "Rice Kashmiri". It was awesome |
01:07.20 | Katty | looks like vegetable biryani from the google images |
01:07.26 | jaskew | It had white raisins, cashews and saffron. I've never been able to find it since |
01:07.47 | Katty | vegetable biryani has raisins |
01:07.59 | Katty | raisins, chashews, yams, potato chunks, peas, etc |
01:08.07 | jaskew | some does - maybe I haven;t looked hard enough ! |
01:08.15 | Katty | make it yourself |
01:08.19 | Katty | that way you can add whatever you want |
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01:08.27 | jaskew | however they prepared it, it was really good. |
01:08.37 | jaskew | heh - I'm a disaster in the kitchen |
01:08.47 | Katty | well ya ain't gonna learn any younger! |
01:09.08 | p3nguin | I could sure use some ice cold beer with my pizza. |
01:09.24 | Katty | there's some amberbock in my fridge |
01:09.25 | jaskew | I"ll put it this way - I tried worcestershire sauce in eggs. |
01:09.29 | Katty | and i think some heiniken leftover |
01:09.34 | p3nguin | too bitter |
01:09.55 | Katty | there's whiskey |
01:10.08 | jaskew | My wife ate some to be nice, but I haven't been invited to cook since. |
01:10.13 | p3nguin | too alcoholic |
01:10.33 | p3nguin | A simple MGD or Rolling Rock would suffice. |
01:10.39 | Katty | MGD? |
01:10.57 | p3nguin | Miller Genuine Draft |
01:11.25 | Katty | ahh |
01:11.32 | Katty | i don't think ryan drinks that stuff |
01:11.56 | p3nguin | Ordinary run-of-the-mill domestics usually are good enough for me. I don't like the bitter beers, though. |
01:12.03 | Katty | he mostly sticks with amberbock, heiniken, corono, dos equis... |
01:13.18 | Katty | hmm. rice pudding with chocolate chips |
01:13.30 | Katty | Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm |
01:16.56 | p3nguin | sigh, I could really use some beer. |
01:17.03 | Katty | go get some |
01:17.22 | p3nguin | That's where I have a problem. |
01:17.28 | Katty | why? |
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01:19.31 | p3nguin | The battery in my car is dead, the wife took the truck to some Beatles tribute concert, and I have a two-year-old, so I can't even walk to the liquor store in the below freezing temperatures. |
01:19.48 | Katty | ah |
01:19.56 | Katty | yes that presents a bit of a problem. |
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01:20.48 | p3nguin | I should learn to keep a 6-pack on hand. :/ |
01:22.03 | p3nguin | I'm wanting to try some of the new Samuel Adams Noble Pils. I hear it's really good, and I usually like Pilsners. |
01:22.25 | jaytee | does sound good. I really like their Hefewiezen |
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01:26.57 | Katty | http://www.recipezaar.com/Caramelized-Chicken-Wings-44888 |
01:28.41 | p3nguin | It looks kinda gross in the picture, but everything used to make it is stuff I like. |
01:29.25 | p3nguin | I think the soy sauce just gives it a bad appearance. |
01:29.58 | Katty | idk, looks pretty good to me |
01:30.05 | Katty | i might try it with some drumsticks. |
01:31.00 | p3nguin | Maybe I need to enlarge the picture; the small thumbnail just looks like a pile of yuck. |
01:31.23 | Katty | http://img.recipezaar.com/img/recipes/44/88/8//large/picDAauSI.jpg |
01:31.44 | p3nguin | Now THAT looks good. |
01:31.50 | Katty | mhmm |
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01:33.00 | p3nguin | You haven't made it before? |
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01:34.21 | DJAshnar | would this work for Asterisk? http://cgi.ebay.com/X100PSE-FXO-PCI-Digium-Asterisk-Trixbox-Elastix-FreePBX_W0QQitemZ130339643798QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item1e58d92196 |
01:35.34 | jaytee | work? probably. with high reliability? doubtful |
01:35.52 | jaytee | ~cheap |
01:35.53 | infobot | well, cheap is a bad idea. If you're setting up an Asterisk system, one of the wisest pieces of advice you can take is this: DON'T BE A CHEAPSKATE. |
01:35.57 | DJAshnar | what is the cheapest recommended that can handle two analog phone lines? |
01:36.13 | DJAshnar | I'm on a fixed income and trying to cut costs on the phone |
01:36.20 | DJAshnar | I have a spare P4 3.2 |
01:37.46 | jaytee | cheapest to handle 2 incoming analog lines? one of these with 2 FXO modules http://www.telephonydepot.com/Catalog/Digium-TDM410P/Digium-TDM410P-Blank-Board |
01:39.00 | jaytee | or 2 of these where each one would give you 1 FXO and 1 FXS (for an analog phone) http://www.telephonydepot.com/Catalog/Digium-TDM410P/Digium-TDM410P-Blank-Board |
01:39.44 | jaskew | Something to consider - do away w/ your analog lines and go to a SIP trunk. I did that in my office and am saving about $80/month. |
01:39.52 | jaytee | what you were looking at on ebay would probably work but my experience with them during my initial Asterisk testing was they had a tendency to lock up the server or drop lots of calls. when the server locked up it required a cold start. |
01:41.05 | DJAshnar | Well, I have a comcast cable phone line and a vonage line (my grandmothers)... so it is VOIP. I just want to go cheaper. Any ideas on how to do it? |
01:41.52 | p3nguin | Flowroute or VoIP.ms will both provide inexpensive and reliable VoIP services. |
01:42.40 | jaskew | You may be able to keep your number too - usually costs $20 to $25 one-time to port. |
01:44.18 | jaskew | Lots to consider tho - don't try to roll your own phone sys unless you a) live alone or b) really know what you are doing. |
01:44.52 | jaskew | If you have a teenage daughter, don;t do it in any case - unless you want to be killed in your sleep (advice from Ward Mundy) |
01:45.06 | p3nguin | Or b.1) can devote the time to learn so that you know what you are doing. |
01:46.13 | jaskew | I think that has to happen during a) |
01:46.36 | p3nguin | heh |
01:47.01 | Igramul | Hi, I see that DeadAGI is deprecated in Asterisk 1.6. What should I use instead? |
01:47.09 | jaskew | And do give at least passing thought to 911 |
01:47.45 | p3nguin | Both Flowroute and VoIP.ms provide 911 services if you want them. |
01:48.18 | DJAshnar | I live with my grandmother and son. I was hoping to go cheaper on the phone lines. I am about to just drop the comcast voip line and use my magicjack off the spare PC |
01:48.54 | p3nguin | How much calling do you do in a month (minutes of usage)? |
01:49.00 | p3nguin | outbound |
01:49.08 | DJAshnar | about 600-1000 |
01:49.17 | DJAshnar | between the two lines |
01:49.51 | p3nguin | So you're looking at $6-$10 per month on outbound minutes with a pay-per-minute service. |
01:50.14 | p3nguin | Flowroute's rate is $0.0098 per minute. |
01:50.45 | jaskew | An inbound ulimited DID is what, another $4.00 per month |
01:51.03 | p3nguin | $6.95 for up to 3000 minutes |
01:52.02 | p3nguin | You can also get pay-per-minute inbound and pay probably $1 per month for the phone number. |
01:52.33 | Katty | p3nguin: yeah i've made it once before |
01:52.39 | Katty | p3nguin: but i wasn't too fond of it |
01:52.43 | jaskew | And most (if not all) of the regulatory fees and other junk disappears. |
01:52.47 | Katty | p3nguin: probably because i don't care for wings...not enough meat |
01:53.41 | DJAshnar | ok... Any decent links on how to set up Asterisk, what hardware I would need, etc? |
01:54.11 | jaskew | How are you with Linux? |
01:54.58 | p3nguin | If you go VoIP only, you don't need any hardware to connect to a phone line... but you'll want either FXS ports to plug phones into (provided by a card or an ATA), or IP phones. |
01:55.45 | p3nguin | VoIP only is what Vonage does -- internet phone service only, no phone line. |
01:56.04 | p3nguin | Vonage also gives you an ATA, so you're familiar with that hardware already. |
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01:59.06 | p3nguin | If you know your way around the Linux command line, pick your favorite Linux distribution and install Asterisk on it. Otherwise, consider getting AsteriskNOW. |
02:00.58 | p3nguin | Speaking of AsteriskNOW, I still need to know where to find the md5sum or sha1sum for the ISO image. It doesn't seem to be stated on and of the pages where you can find AsteriskNOW. |
02:01.43 | jaskew | p3nguin: What SIP provder(s) would you recommend for a business for DID and outbound? I'd like one with telco-like reliability. |
02:03.09 | p3nguin | I don't really know which ones have good business rates. The cheap rates are normally for residential usage. |
02:04.16 | jaskew | I assume it would be pay per minute, not one of those "unlimited" lines. Not looking for cheap here. Just reasonable and reliable. |
02:06.06 | DJAshnar | hmmm.... for Flowroute, would http://www.voiplink.com/Linksys_PAP2_NA_p/linksys-pap2-na.htm work? |
02:06.37 | p3nguin | PAP2 will be fine, but you should consider the PAP2T. |
02:07.59 | p3nguin | You can get a PAP2T-NA for $35 on ebay with free shipping, last I checked. |
02:09.31 | p3nguin | To be honest, you don't even need Asterisk for your situation. |
02:09.45 | jaskew | DJAshnar - with that, you wouldn;t even need Asterisk - so long as you don;t need voicemail, call forward, etc, etc. |
02:09.54 | jaskew | ha - beat me to it! |
02:09.55 | p3nguin | The PAP2T will register directly to Flowroute with no troubles. |
02:10.05 | DJAshnar | Sweet. |
02:10.37 | p3nguin | But if you decide that you want to play around with a PBX, Asterisk is certainly the right price for a hobbyist. |
02:11.02 | DJAshnar | That means I can learn Asterisk at me leisure |
02:11.07 | jaskew | You could sign up for a Google Voice number and use that for voicemail. Last number I signed up for, I got an invite in a couple weeks. |
02:11.44 | p3nguin | or you can ask someone to invite you. |
02:12.19 | DJAshnar | I have a google voice number :) |
02:12.43 | jaskew | DJAshnar: I used PBXinaFlash myself. Real easy to install and get working. It has a few rough edges. I"m not sure how others here feel about it - I'd defer to them for a more authoritative recommendation |
02:13.31 | p3nguin | AsteriskNOW |
02:14.30 | jaskew | That uses the "official" asterisk GUI? |
02:14.39 | jaytee | it uses freepbx |
02:15.00 | jaytee | the official asterisk gui has been abandoned from what I understand |
02:15.02 | p3nguin | No, it uses FreePBX, but at least it can be supported by Asterisk people and Digium. |
02:15.16 | jaskew | Ah - OK. |
02:16.40 | jaskew | I'm getting static all the sudden on my internet radio. how the heck does that happen? |
02:19.06 | jaskew | last time I heard that, the radio had tubes in it. |
02:19.31 | DJAshnar | 6l6 power tubes, 12au7 inverter/gain, 2 12ax7a preamps |
02:19.35 | DJAshnar | *6L6 |
02:20.06 | DJAshnar | I'm a tube amp whore |
02:20.08 | jaskew | Ha - nice! |
02:20.33 | jaskew | Anyone remember the tube testers they used to have at the drugstores? |
02:21.14 | p3nguin | We had one when I worked at Radio Shack many years ago. |
02:22.53 | jaskew | Heh- that was back when retired engineers and other knowledgeable folks staffed the Radio Shacks. |
02:23.03 | jaskew | Good times, good times... |
02:23.30 | jaytee | good old Radio Shack. they used to have knowledgeable salespeople that could help you find what you needed and their slogan was "You have questions? We have answers." then they had to start hiring minimum wage people that didn't know electronics and they had to change the slogan to "Yeah, we got stuff!" |
02:24.14 | DJAshnar | I used to work at 1849... damn rat shack |
02:24.22 | DJAshnar | top in sales in the district, and got downsized |
02:24.26 | jaskew | I remember when one of the sales people soldered a part into a radio for a customer - they bought a replacement capacitor or something. |
02:25.06 | jaskew | COrporate probably forbids the employees from touching a soldering iron now. |
02:25.32 | DJAshnar | We had one guy sell 47 cell phones, with warranties, and all the accessories... except ONE with no warramty. The DM SCREAMED at him for it |
02:26.16 | DJAshnar | Anyone have a link to flowroute 3000 minute plan that was mentioned? |
02:26.38 | jaskew | times have changed. Used to be that most RS employees were HAM operators. |
02:27.06 | DJAshnar | We used to get drunk with our manager, after work. |
02:27.51 | p3nguin | We were franchise, so I got to solder all the time. |
02:28.21 | jaskew | Look at: http://www.flowroute.com/services/inbound/ under teh flat rate plan. I don;t see anything about 3000 min though. probably in the small print |
02:29.00 | p3nguin | http://www.flowroute.com/services/inbound/ |
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02:30.10 | jaskew | I worked at an independent electronics store for a while. The owners eventually got busted because they were building decoder boxes for ON TV. |
02:30.54 | jaskew | Actually I was building them, but nothing happened because I was 16. |
02:31.27 | jaskew | the owners got in a little trouble tho... |
02:32.03 | p3nguin | If you have under 463 minutes of inbound calls each month, you could consider the pay-per-minute inbound plan. |
02:33.14 | p3nguin | (463*0.012)+1.39 = 6.95 |
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02:39.47 | Gopher_77 | I'm having an issue loading chan_dahdi... it keeps giving me "Permission Denied" for /dev/dahdi/channel. Does anyone know how to solve this? |
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02:48.57 | gnufan | hey all.. anybody has experience w/ integrating Asterisk + SugarCRM using VoiceRD? |
02:49.56 | gnufan | anybody? |
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03:39.09 | gnufan | anybody has experience w/ integrating Asterisk + SugarCRM using VoiceRD? |
03:40.55 | dlynes_laptop | gnufan, only one module that i'm aware of for integrating asterisk with sugarcrm, and it doesn't do voicerd...mind you i've never of voicerd, either |
03:42.06 | gnufan | thanks |
03:43.32 | dlynes_laptop | gnufan, that one that i've run across i believe you can find by search sugarforge |
03:43.40 | dlynes_laptop | s/search/searching/ |
03:44.20 | gnufan | i already i've installed voicerd into sugarcrm |
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03:44.54 | gnufan | and setup all the config.. but can't make outbound calls through sugarcrm |
03:46.08 | gnufan | it's using a user from manager.conf |
03:46.34 | gnufan | all i see in asterisk console.. User 'username' logged in and logged out |
03:46.56 | gnufan | where is asterisk logs stored? |
03:47.09 | gnufan | /var/logs/asterisk? |
03:47.15 | jaytee | /var/log/asterisk |
03:47.22 | jaytee | messages and debug are in there |
03:47.53 | dlynes_laptop | gnufan, that's because sugarcrm module is using AMI (Asterisk Management Interface) |
03:48.28 | dlynes_laptop | gnufan, were you wanting to see what sugarcrm is actually doing in AMI? |
03:48.56 | gnufan | that would be nice |
03:49.13 | gnufan | is there a way monitor AMI processes? |
03:49.48 | gnufan | one of the config option it asks for is "internal context" |
03:50.14 | gnufan | is that the context in my extension.conf |
03:50.15 | gnufan | ? |
03:51.58 | gnufan | jaytee.. i'm running 1.6 |
03:52.10 | gnufan | i dont see debug under /var/log/asterisk |
03:54.59 | jaytee | it'll only show up there if you've got it set to in logger.conf |
03:55.08 | gnufan | thanks fellas.. time for more Googling.... |
04:01.38 | p3nguin | katty: The weather people say "Get ready for more snow!" |
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04:35.11 | jblack | yay. snow. how delightful. go snow. yay. yay. yay. |
04:35.15 | jblack | </bleh> |
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05:01.10 | Kobaz | mm |
05:01.14 | Kobaz | that was some good skiing |
05:01.26 | Kobaz | 2 feet of powder last night and this morning came down |
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05:45.59 | Raden | p3nguin, you any good with VNC server ? |
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06:11.42 | p3nguin | raden: Did you have an actual question abou VNC server? |
06:16.09 | datacompboy | Hi all! I have a micro problem with cdr. Mine dialplan is: http://pastebin.ca/1788775. The problem is all outgoing calls in cdr have short length, about 4-10-20 seconds. Seems CDR stops after connection established. What's wrong? |
06:16.11 | Raden | p3nguin, yeah trying to get one setu p |
06:16.30 | Raden | the question is I want it so VNC Services always available |
06:17.11 | Raden | is tight VNC even going to work for what i want todo ? |
06:17.41 | datacompboy | Raden: i think that not for asterisk channel :) write in pm actual question, I will answer you. |
06:19.50 | Raden | it returns error that it is not a runlevel service |
06:20.30 | AeroCloud | has anyone ever tried to run a Dial() Macro, that would go a Background and listen for DTMF input and actually work? (Sorry if this sounds confusing) |
06:22.25 | p3nguin | raden: Are you trying to create virtual desktops on a server for users to connect to... or are you trying to share your real desktop? |
06:22.49 | Raden | p3nguin, i need to be able to login to my desktop when im not at the office |
06:23.44 | p3nguin | raden: I recommend using x11vnc for this. Also use ssh to create a secure connection for your VNC session. The x11vnc will be ran each time you want to connect to it rather than all the time. |
06:26.32 | *** join/#asterisk rue_mohr (~rue@24.207.119.38) |
06:26.39 | rue_mohr | my asterisk machine just blew up |
06:26.53 | rue_mohr | the caps on the motherboard went |
06:26.54 | Raden | lmao |
06:27.00 | AeroCloud | Example: Dial(SIP/whatever,M(mymacro)) [macro-mymacro] s,1,Background(silence|macro-mymacro) 1,1,SayDigits(1) |
06:27.02 | Raden | how did that happen ? |
06:27.16 | AeroCloud | Pressing 1 does not work.. on a dialed Macro |
06:27.17 | rue_mohr | they completely failed JUST BEFORE the bearings went on the spindle of the hard drive |
06:27.26 | Raden | rue_mohr, switch to backup machine :) |
06:27.40 | rue_mohr | yea, my backup is a little thin |
06:27.45 | rue_mohr | anyhow |
06:27.48 | rue_mohr | clean slate |
06:28.10 | rue_mohr | so, what is the generally accpeted trouble free version of asterisk now? |
06:28.18 | rue_mohr | I have a plain jane T1 card |
06:28.47 | rue_mohr | T100P |
06:28.54 | rue_mohr | "dahdi" |
06:29.31 | rue_mohr | last time I tried to use .6 they hadn't quite switched over all the code and support was a nightmare, I had to run around finding undeleted dahdi and old asterisk mirrors |
06:29.53 | Raden | 1.6.0.22 |
06:30.14 | rue_mohr | I'll buy that |
06:30.17 | Raden | running 1.6.0.10 for over 185 days no issues |
06:30.25 | rue_mohr | sweet |
06:30.27 | Raden | 1.6.0.22 should be stable |
06:30.39 | Raden | we have pushed over 30,000 calls so should be ok |
06:30.44 | rue_mohr | lets see how much blood I need to sacrifice to get my T100P working with it |
06:30.55 | Raden | that should not be a issue |
06:31.20 | p3nguin | aerocloud: syntax error |
06:31.25 | rue_mohr | I like you use the word 'should' I beleive you more :) |
06:31.59 | AeroCloud | p3nguin: what do you mean? other than the |, I actually have comma for my version |
06:32.26 | Raden | how horrid are vnc graphics usually ? |
06:32.41 | AeroCloud | pretty ugly |
06:33.06 | p3nguin | aerocloud: Well, the | is probably the right character to use, but silence isn't likely to do anything since it is a directory, and call processing should exit as soon as it reaches that. |
06:33.09 | Raden | I cant make anything out :( |
06:33.30 | Raden | even over my gigabit network |
06:33.35 | AeroCloud | p3nguin: do you have an idea how to do this then? |
06:33.54 | rue_mohr | ok so what do I need to download for t100P drivers... |
06:34.04 | rue_mohr | iirc its called |
06:34.11 | rue_mohr | ____ |
06:34.31 | p3nguin | aerocloud: exten => s,1,Background(silence/10) exten => 1,1,SayDigits(1) |
06:34.34 | AeroCloud | I have a .call file calling 1 person whom picks up and it auto calls a 2nd person. Apon the connection of that call I need the original person to push a digit to do a script |
06:34.55 | [TK]D-Fender | AeroCloud: You don't have the right number opf parameters, you are using "| as a delimiter in 1.6 witch is not legal, and trying to make an IVR in a macro which is a ..... |
06:34.59 | [TK]D-Fender | ~soso |
06:35.00 | infobot | [~soso] Shoot-On-Sight Offense |
06:35.07 | rue_mohr | wait dahdi is the new name? |
06:35.13 | Raden | omfg VNC sucks |
06:35.28 | [TK]D-Fender | VNC = teh sh1zn1t y0 |
06:35.40 | rue_mohr | right it was called .....zaptel |
06:35.41 | p3nguin | In 1.4.29, BackGround() is still requiring the | character. |
06:35.45 | rue_mohr | its all comming back |
06:35.54 | [TK]D-Fender | p3nguin: nope. |
06:36.05 | p3nguin | Description] Background(filename1[&filename2...][|options[|langoverride][|context]]): |
06:36.14 | AeroCloud | [TK]D-Fender: I agree about that.. I'm trying to make the ability of a digit input apon the bridging of 2 calls |
06:36.15 | [TK]D-Fender | p3nguin: description not updated <- |
06:36.17 | Raden | [TK]D-Fender, my graphics are horrid and blocky and a mess on a gigabit connection :( |
06:36.19 | p3nguin | Asterisk 1.4.29 built by root @ asterisk.local.domain on a i686 running Linux on 2010-01-25 20:30:37 UTC |
06:36.28 | *** join/#asterisk _bradk (~brad@unaffiliated/-bradk/x-9249860) |
06:36.34 | p3nguin | Sounds like a bug, then. |
06:36.35 | AeroCloud | I'm actually using "," lets ignore the | thing.. was example, not real code |
06:36.35 | [TK]D-Fender | Raden: choose better settings |
06:36.58 | [TK]D-Fender | AeroCloud: Don't ask us what's wrong while showing us fabricated BS |
06:37.01 | p3nguin | aerocloud: Use what I typed, change the pipe to comma, and see what happens. |
06:37.05 | [TK]D-Fender | AeroCloud: Show us something real to debug |
06:37.37 | p3nguin | Wait, with what I typed there is no pipe nor comma... so nevermind that. |
06:37.44 | p3nguin | aerocloud: Use what I typed and see what happens. |
06:37.50 | AeroCloud | exten => s,4,Background(en/silence/10) exten => 2,1,Hangup |
06:37.53 | AeroCloud | thats my test |
06:38.12 | AeroCloud | with the 2,1 inside both the original context and the macro |
06:38.13 | p3nguin | So if you press 2 during the 10 second silence, it will hangup. |
06:38.13 | [TK]D-Fender | AeroCloud: that's 2 lines with no obvious relationship to each other |
06:38.35 | AeroCloud | p3nguin: correct, but it doesnt do anything |
06:38.35 | rue_mohr | Raden, what kernel version you using? |
06:38.44 | p3nguin | aerocloud: It doesn't hangup? |
06:38.45 | Raden | 2.6 something |
06:38.47 | AeroCloud | nope |
06:38.59 | AeroCloud | s,5 is a loop to s,4 |
06:39.07 | AeroCloud | playing same 10 second silence |
06:39.12 | AeroCloud | waiting for input |
06:39.18 | p3nguin | aerocloud: You'll have to provide some debug or verbose output as well as the dialplan. |
06:39.19 | Raden | omfg wtf is the vnc config file |
06:39.27 | Raden | nothing in /etc |
06:39.36 | fenrus | in your homedir ? |
06:39.47 | fenrus | the vnc server or the vnc client? |
06:40.08 | p3nguin | raden: Had you listened to what I said, you probably wouldn't be using a config file. |
06:40.30 | Raden | use x11vnc ? |
06:40.32 | p3nguin | Since you don't want to take my advice, I can only wish you good luck and be on my way. |
06:41.11 | Raden | p3nguin, what was that about ssh ????? |
06:41.20 | Raden | like connect via ssh first ? |
06:41.23 | Raden | im a lil confussed |
06:42.05 | AeroCloud | p3nguin: http://pastebin.ca/1788793 |
06:42.16 | AeroCloud | pretty simple.. |
06:42.48 | AeroCloud | the .call file calls SIP/internal with the extension of the number to dial |
06:42.50 | AeroCloud | thats it |
06:43.16 | p3nguin | raden: ssh -L5900:127.0.0.1:5900 user@yourdesktop |
06:43.43 | AeroCloud | http://pastebin.ca/1788794 |
06:43.45 | *** part/#asterisk datacompboy (~opera@l64-93-216.static.cn.ru) |
06:43.55 | p3nguin | raden: That creates a secure channel from your local computer to your remote computer (the desktop with X running on it). |
06:43.59 | AeroCloud | apologize for the mistype in there.. |
06:44.28 | Raden | p3nguin, then i just launch my vnc viewer ? |
06:45.36 | p3nguin | raden: Then you can run "x11vnc -display :0" in that ssh session (since you will be logged onto the desktop where X is). |
06:46.10 | p3nguin | raden: Now you have a secure channel for your vnc traffic... so connect you vncviewer to localhost:5900 |
06:46.30 | Raden | that sounds like alot todo everytime i need to connect |
06:46.55 | p3nguin | ssh -t -L 5900:localhost:5900 far-host 'x11vnc -localhost -display :0' |
06:47.11 | Raden | lol |
06:47.32 | p3nguin | one step to create the tunnel and run x11vnc. |
06:47.38 | Raden | nice :) |
06:47.40 | AeroCloud | p3nguin: doesnt that appear to be correct? or do you need to see my .call file too? that sends them to the [in-cs] |
06:47.53 | p3nguin | Then launch vncviewer on the local machine. |
06:48.54 | p3nguin | aerocloud: No idea, pastebin.ca will not load for me. Ever. |
06:49.02 | AeroCloud | pm ? |
06:49.50 | p3nguin | If you want me to be able to see the pastes, use a site that doesn't suck as much, like pastebin.com. |
06:50.55 | Raden | http://www.pastebin.ca/1788794 |
06:51.02 | Raden | p3nguin, try www |
06:51.25 | Raden | p3nguin, I have same issue |
06:54.36 | p3nguin | Unable to load page |
06:54.36 | p3nguin | Problem occurred while loading the URL http://www.pastebin.ca/1788794 |
06:54.38 | p3nguin | Cannot connect to destination |
06:55.00 | Raden | that is odd |
06:55.07 | p3nguin | I simply cannot view .ca at all, ever. |
06:55.31 | p3nguin | .com works well, though. |
06:55.51 | Raden | http://208.68.18.100/1788794 |
06:55.54 | Raden | ??? |
06:56.08 | p3nguin | heh works |
06:56.22 | Raden | thats a odd dns issue |
06:56.31 | p3nguin | Now I need to find out why DNS fails for pastebin.ca. |
06:56.39 | Raden | :D |
06:56.53 | Raden | isp blocking ? |
06:56.59 | AeroCloud | p3nguin: http://pastebin.com/d2188a40b |
06:57.39 | p3nguin | Oh, maybe this is an IPv6 problem. |
06:57.42 | Katty | :< |
06:57.44 | Raden | p3nguin, try 8.8.8.8 for dns server once |
06:57.47 | p3nguin | Feb 7 00:51:12 hyperion dnsmasq[5614]: reply virtual.pastebin.ca is 2610:1e8:2:20::e8b8:100 |
06:57.50 | Katty | i really hate not being able to sleep |
06:57.50 | Raden | morning Katty |
06:58.01 | Katty | hmm, i guess it is morning |
06:58.17 | Katty | morning |
06:58.26 | Raden | oddly enough only time i cant sleep is when i dont get caffeine :( |
06:58.35 | Raden | which is annoying cause caffeine raises my blood presure |
06:58.47 | Raden | p3nguin, you using ipv6 ? or strictly ipv4 ? |
06:58.47 | p3nguin | My IPv6 tunnel is up, though, so I don't think that should cause it to fail. |
06:58.48 | Katty | caffeine makes my ears ring |
06:58.55 | Katty | it didn't use to |
06:58.59 | p3nguin | IPv4 with a v6 tunnel |
06:59.06 | Katty | but ever since they tried to put me on that SSRI back in october... |
06:59.08 | Raden | p3nguin, i wonder if that the issues |
06:59.15 | Raden | did u try a different dns ? |
06:59.28 | Raden | Katty, UGH |
06:59.32 | Katty | weird eh? i wouldn't think that just a week of taking a drug would screw a person up 4 months later |
06:59.49 | Raden | Katty, effect can be permanent :( |
06:59.52 | Raden | or long term |
06:59.59 | Katty | well it's gotten a lot better. |
07:00.02 | Raden | SSRI inhibitors are very powerful :( |
07:00.06 | Katty | that they are |
07:00.16 | Katty | but i have to tell myself it hasn't done permanent damage |
07:00.23 | Katty | else i might panic |
07:00.34 | Raden | for every week you take a SSRI it can take 6 weeks to totally get outta your system ( results very by patient ) |
07:00.52 | Katty | yeah i noticed major improvements withint he first few weeks of stopping it |
07:01.01 | Katty | i can't hear it during the day anymore... |
07:01.08 | Katty | but being tired makes it louder, caffeine, and stress. |
07:01.09 | Raden | that is really good :) |
07:01.27 | Raden | take omega 3 pills |
07:01.43 | Raden | helps serotonin production itll lessen the effect and all natural :) |
07:01.52 | Raden | plus it good for imune and circulator system :) |
07:02.00 | Katty | isn't that what an SSRI does? |
07:02.04 | Katty | increases serotonin production |
07:02.11 | p3nguin | aerocloud: It looks like that should work fine. Did you get some verbose output? |
07:02.13 | Raden | SSRI's are blockers |
07:02.18 | Katty | hmm |
07:02.18 | AeroCloud | no verbose at all |
07:02.28 | Raden | the way they block is by numbing the nero receptors in the brain |
07:02.31 | p3nguin | core set verbose 100? |
07:02.45 | Raden | Omega 3 fish oils helps even everything out clinically proven |
07:02.48 | AeroCloud | other than dial/bridging answered |
07:02.50 | Katty | i'm sure you'll understand that i'm kinda scared to take anything else :/ |
07:02.53 | AeroCloud | there is nothing |
07:03.03 | AeroCloud | pressing digits does nothing |
07:03.26 | Raden | Katty, omega 3 is all natural fish oil been used for years and in 64% of people helps with many things same thing as eating a bunch of fish each day LOL :) |
07:03.28 | AeroCloud | tried with multiple phones, etc |
07:03.39 | Raden | Katty, just trying to help :) |
07:03.47 | Raden | do research u smart :) |
07:04.23 | AeroCloud | it only helps 64% of people you said |
07:04.28 | AeroCloud | what happens to the other 36% ? |
07:04.43 | Katty | i might try eating more fish |
07:04.56 | Raden | AeroCloud, 64% of people with dipression and anxiety |
07:05.11 | AeroCloud | :), just giving you a hard time |
07:05.11 | Raden | AeroCloud, over 100's of studies no adverse reaction |
07:05.14 | Katty | they put me on it to help with mood swings. |
07:05.27 | Katty | why they did that, i have no idea. |
07:05.34 | Katty | should have never listened to them |
07:05.48 | Raden | yea most docs are pill pushers |
07:06.09 | Katty | my sister has been on an SSRI before, with good results |
07:06.10 | Raden | there usually a safer more natural alternative |
07:06.13 | Katty | my mom was on one for years... |
07:06.15 | AeroCloud | I know running Macro() function instead of running the macro within a dial |
07:06.21 | Katty | she seemed to be okay too |
07:06.22 | AeroCloud | the background works perfectly |
07:06.23 | Raden | Katty, everyone has different results |
07:06.27 | Katty | why it affected me so horribly, i don't know |
07:06.28 | AeroCloud | but why not within a Dial() |
07:06.37 | AeroCloud | know of any work arounds ? |
07:06.45 | Katty | but within 3 days of being on Prozac, i just went off the deep end with that constant noise |
07:06.54 | Raden | Katty, different genetics / hormones / enviroment / diet /etc.... |
07:07.00 | Katty | they tried to tell me it would go away....tried to switch me to Celexa or somethin....but i just couldn't take it |
07:07.10 | Katty | Celexa was even worse |
07:07.14 | AeroCloud | depression medication sucks |
07:07.23 | Katty | i took celexa for about 3 days or so too |
07:07.36 | AeroCloud | gives you headaches and makes you feel blah |
07:07.37 | Raden | Katty, most things you experiance can be fixed by eating the rtight stuff at the same time everyday |
07:07.51 | Katty | Raden: well they never told me it had bad effects with caffeine |
07:08.00 | Katty | Raden: and at the time i drank a LOT of caffeine. 32oz minimum a day |
07:08.01 | Raden | im not talking about the meds |
07:08.04 | Katty | Raden: sometimes more... |
07:08.06 | AeroCloud | I took celexa for about a month.. felt worse on it than off |
07:08.06 | Raden | im talking mood swings and stuff |
07:08.17 | Katty | well my mood swings are normal |
07:08.19 | Raden | Katty, im a caffeine addict to :( |
07:08.22 | Katty | every female has mood swings... |
07:08.26 | Raden | exactly |
07:08.37 | Katty | i think i'll just stick with my mood swings for now on |
07:08.38 | Raden | as long as you dont burst out in rage its all good |
07:08.47 | Katty | no, quite the opposite |
07:08.54 | AeroCloud | I agree with Raden about food and nutrition |
07:08.56 | Katty | get really down for a few days |
07:09.13 | Katty | but i was drinknig a ton of caffeine while on the prozac |
07:09.16 | Katty | i got really really shakey |
07:09.21 | Raden | then you need more fatty oils and protein in your diet |
07:09.30 | Raden | serotonin is down need more production |
07:09.46 | Raden | prozac and caffeine = speed |
07:09.53 | AeroCloud | lol |
07:09.56 | Raden | no joke cant get much cloer |
07:10.02 | Raden | gives a person the jitters |
07:10.06 | Raden | makes you not sit still |
07:10.13 | Raden | the buzzing in the head |
07:10.19 | Raden | restlessness |
07:10.24 | Raden | sweaty palms |
07:10.33 | Raden | freaking nightmare for some people |
07:10.49 | Katty | yeah no doubt |
07:10.56 | Katty | but the celexa was /worse/ |
07:11.00 | Raden | take it u been there ? |
07:11.11 | Katty | at leas the prozac had me on a euphoric high |
07:11.12 | Raden | i believe that |
07:11.19 | Katty | the celexa... |
07:11.21 | Katty | i was a zombie |
07:11.22 | Raden | just stay away from effexor |
07:11.26 | Katty | exhausted...all day |
07:11.33 | Katty | couldn't sleep at night |
07:11.35 | Raden | ive seen that in many people :( |
07:11.38 | Katty | no emotions |
07:11.41 | Raden | yup |
07:11.46 | Raden | basically shuts a person off |
07:11.49 | Katty | yeah |
07:11.56 | Katty | plus that damn ringing |
07:12.01 | Katty | i was so mentally drained from it |
07:12.13 | Katty | if i had to live like that on a daily basis, i think i'd rather die |
07:12.55 | AeroCloud | anyone know if its possible to bridge 3 callers together with asterisk without meetme or confbridge.. |
07:12.55 | Katty | within a few weeks of being off Celexa i started returning to my normal self |
07:13.14 | Katty | AeroCloud: most phones support 3way calling |
07:13.19 | rue_mohr | is asterisk assisted by adjusting the kernel timer freq? |
07:13.29 | AeroCloud | Katty: not what I mean |
07:13.33 | Katty | k |
07:13.34 | Raden | AeroCloud, if your phone has the ability yes |
07:13.56 | Raden | AeroCloud, there is a way to 3 way through asterisk |
07:14.00 | AeroCloud | say.. you have extension 500, you want it to call 501 and 502 and get you all together |
07:14.04 | Raden | OMFG I HATE VNC |
07:14.10 | AeroCloud | without meetme and confbridge |
07:14.15 | p3nguin | What's wrong with vnc? |
07:14.20 | AeroCloud | I can do meetme and confbridge easily |
07:14.35 | AeroCloud | I'm trying to do something else |
07:14.47 | Raden | p3nguin, screen gets all broken |
07:15.03 | AeroCloud | so 500 call 501 and then both of those call 502 in essence |
07:15.09 | p3nguin | raden: Is the viewer's color depth set at a reasonable level? |
07:15.19 | Raden | 8 |
07:15.21 | Raden | 16 |
07:15.27 | Raden | tried both |
07:15.32 | Raden | messing with it some more |
07:15.47 | Raden | and i cant get it to go below 1600x1200 which is getting very annoying |
07:16.00 | p3nguin | I would probably use 64 or 256 colors. |
07:16.24 | AeroCloud | vnc defaults to screen resolution and the more people connected to it.. the worse the view |
07:17.04 | AeroCloud | guess I'm SOL with this function that they want me to build |
07:17.36 | Raden | p3nguin, im trying to connect from win 7 to linux :( |
07:18.14 | p3nguin | Which vnc viewer are you using? |
07:18.52 | Raden | TightVNC Viewer |
07:18.56 | p3nguin | Have you tried RealVNC or UltraVNC viewers? |
07:19.53 | AeroCloud | think I use Ultra |
07:19.57 | AeroCloud | much better than Tight |
07:19.59 | Raden | p3nguin, what u use ? |
07:20.23 | p3nguin | realvnc viewer on Linux |
07:21.31 | p3nguin | I use UltraVNC server when I want a VNC on Windows, though. |
07:22.31 | p3nguin | I would have to check my flash drive, but I think I use the UltraVNC client when on a Windows client, too. |
07:22.40 | p3nguin | So maybe Ultra is just better on Windows all the way around. |
07:23.37 | ChannelZ | I actually bought a license of RealVNC, it's pretty nice. |
07:23.48 | ChannelZ | It does screen scaling which I don't remember the others doing |
07:23.53 | p3nguin | Any better than the free versions? |
07:24.18 | ChannelZ | Of RealVNC yeah |
07:24.33 | p3nguin | I know I used RealVNC in that past, but always the free one. |
07:24.46 | Raden | downloadin |
07:24.49 | ChannelZ | The free one doesn't work as a service in Vista+ |
07:25.36 | AeroCloud | here is another question.. |
07:26.12 | ChannelZ | grr getting fucking sick of spam from russia |
07:26.14 | AeroCloud | can a dialplan do 2 dial() commands and keep them seperate or not auto bridge them |
07:27.01 | AeroCloud | normally a Dial() will auto bridge the caller with the dialed number.. I dont want it to bridge |
07:27.17 | Raden | OMFG |
07:27.20 | AeroCloud | I want to keep them seperate.. sending the dialed number to a new context |
07:27.23 | jql | what would you prefer it do? |
07:27.38 | AeroCloud | but the ability later to merge them |
07:28.49 | jql | you can use the M() flag or something to Dial() to delay the bridge |
07:29.01 | jql | I dunno if you can do it indefinitely, but it's likely |
07:29.03 | AeroCloud | yeah I tried that |
07:29.14 | jql | now, *multiple* Dial() commands would be another trick entirely |
07:29.18 | AeroCloud | M is ran once its bridged |
07:29.21 | Raden | wow ultra a a POS ON WIN 7 |
07:29.39 | jql | probably would need to use Dial(Local/exten&Local/exten) and some voodoo |
07:30.02 | AeroCloud | yeah, I tried calling in.. making it create a .call file |
07:30.14 | AeroCloud | the .call calls the 2nd person, which calls the 3rd person |
07:30.28 | AeroCloud | then I want to bridge the 1st and 3rd and hangup the 2nd |
07:30.46 | *** join/#asterisk alancio (~Alancio@p22223-ipngn501hodogaya.kanagawa.ocn.ne.jp) |
07:30.48 | AeroCloud | so the 2nd person is really just a mediator to make sure the call went through ok |
07:31.29 | AeroCloud | this is for customer service ^ |
07:31.52 | jql | if M() really happens after the bridge, then someone should fix the voip-info wiki, cause the call-screening macro is gonna have a BAD effect. :) |
07:32.24 | AeroCloud | it does.. M is ran once answered |
07:32.27 | Raden | wow the stupd program keeps opening by itself I cannot close and no uninstall option |
07:32.46 | jql | yes, once answered, but before the audio is bridged, I'm hoping |
07:32.53 | AeroCloud | ok thats possible |
07:33.13 | jql | so you could whip out a Transfer() or something if the situation called for it |
07:33.18 | jql | presumes |
07:33.23 | AeroCloud | jql: hmm |
07:33.36 | AeroCloud | doesnt the dialplan stop on a Dial() command |
07:33.49 | AeroCloud | and wait for the Dial() to finish before continueing |
07:33.51 | Raden | BRB need to reboot i fing hate windows |
07:33.56 | jql | yes, but that's only party A's dialplan |
07:34.04 | jql | the macro runs in party B's dialplan |
07:34.19 | p3nguin | unless you use a macro or 'g' option, that should be the end of the line. |
07:34.30 | *** join/#asterisk tzafrir_laptop (~tzafrir@local.xorcom.com) |
07:34.51 | AeroCloud | so if I specify g, I can continue the dialplan after a Dial() and possibly do another Dial() ? |
07:34.56 | p3nguin | yeah |
07:35.07 | AeroCloud | what would happen :) |
07:35.17 | p3nguin | next priority runs. |
07:35.38 | AeroCloud | nah, Dial(g) --> Dial(g) --> Dial(g) |
07:35.42 | p3nguin | core show application Dial |
07:35.44 | AeroCloud | would it throw some kinda error |
07:35.51 | AeroCloud | I know the g option |
07:36.01 | AeroCloud | I mean would asterisk dial a 2nd and 3rd time? |
07:36.04 | AeroCloud | how would it bridge |
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07:37.13 | AeroCloud | going to try it, and see what happens |
07:38.17 | AeroCloud | g is for the called party |
07:38.31 | AeroCloud | no option for the calling party |
07:44.10 | Raden | p3nguin, how do i run ssh -t -L 5900:localhost:5900 far-host 'x11vnc -localhost -display :0' |
07:44.10 | Raden | <PROTECTED> |
07:45.31 | p3nguin | The putty command will be different, since putty != ssh |
07:46.08 | p3nguin | I honestly don't feel like looking it up right now. You can do it from the GUI or the command prompt, though. |
07:46.15 | ChannelZ | You can setup the tunnel in the 'Tunnels' section but I don't think you can run a command |
07:46.31 | p3nguin | Just run the command after login. |
07:46.51 | p3nguin | the command being "x11vnc -localhost -display :0" |
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07:50.49 | p3nguin | You don't HAVE to use an ssh tunnel for your vnc session, but it will be encrypted if you do. |
07:51.13 | p3nguin | You don't have to use ssh to encrypt it; there are other softwares that can create secure channels. |
07:51.17 | Raden | i cant even seem to get a vnc server running right |
07:51.20 | ChannelZ | it makes it a lot easier than setting up static port forwarding |
07:51.34 | Raden | p3nguin, technically I will have a VPN to office from here soon |
07:52.16 | p3nguin | Once you login on the desktop system, you simply run the x11vnc command to start the vnc server. Use the options listed above if you want it to work the first time, though. |
07:53.21 | p3nguin | Optionally, you can use some other x11vnc options such as -shared to keep it from exiting when you disconnect the viewer. |
07:53.37 | p3nguin | Really, this isn't rocket surgery. |
07:53.41 | Raden | i know |
07:53.46 | Raden | just one of them things |
07:53.54 | Raden | never done it so it seems more complex |
07:54.04 | Raden | why is there not just a vnc service i could setup LO L |
07:54.13 | p3nguin | There is, but you don't NEED it. |
07:54.22 | p3nguin | and it would be silly to use it. |
07:55.31 | p3nguin | Think of connecting to the desktop and launching x11vnc as connecting to the VPN. It's the first step in a two- or three-step procedure. |
07:58.03 | Raden | i wish this was easier like windows terminal services |
07:58.13 | Raden | rdesktop so easy lol |
07:59.28 | fenrus | why would you want a graphical desktop remote anyway ? |
08:00.03 | p3nguin | He just wants to connect to his work desktop while he's away. That's a pretty common thing to do. |
08:00.56 | ManxPower-work | Heh! The little calendar app I'm working on just popped up to tell me that New Year's Day 2010 is an upcoming event. |
08:00.57 | Raden | fenrus, cause people at work mess with crap they shouldnt and i have 1 Machine at work i can connect to anywhere in all 3 offices all rdesktop logins have shortcuts everything accounting system windows only many reasons |
08:01.05 | alancio | its not rocket surgey, but bullet surgery :P |
08:01.11 | Raden | fenrus, so i need to have a GUI of that one machine |
08:01.18 | p3nguin | I think the putty command is something like putty.exe -L 5900:yourworkstationIPaddress:5900 -l username -p 22 yourworkpublicIPaddres |
08:01.29 | Raden | p3nguin, got it to work :) |
08:01.35 | alancio | I think putty has a GUI to create tunnels |
08:01.42 | alancio | a dialog of some sort |
08:01.51 | p3nguin | The GUI and the command line both provide the same options. |
08:01.58 | p3nguin | One you click, one you type. |
08:02.03 | Raden | p3nguin, created a tunnel in putty |
08:02.11 | p3nguin | GUI or command line? |
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08:02.25 | Raden | p3nguin, gui i prefer commmand line |
08:02.30 | alancio | in the GUI I guess you can save the settings to reuse them later |
08:02.31 | Raden | gah i prefer linux LOL |
08:02.50 | Raden | alancio, true but i can make a file to execute a command to :) |
08:03.18 | p3nguin | Try the command I gave if you want. The documentation gives all the options, but I don't feel like looking it up. |
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08:04.31 | p3nguin | At any rate, if you created the tunnel correctly, you can now run the x11vnc command on the desktop machine via ssh, and then connect your vnc viewer to localhost:5900. |
08:04.56 | p3nguin | When done, close the vnc viewer, close putty, and you're done. |
08:05.08 | alancio | p3nguin: he shold use vncviewer localhost:0, not :5900 |
08:05.22 | p3nguin | That's debatable. |
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08:06.06 | p3nguin | I use :5900 since the tunnel is listening on 5900 -- but vnc veiwer might translate :0 to the correct port number anyway. |
08:06.39 | alancio | if you want it to work, use vncviwer localhost:0, if you want to debate, use localhost:5900, and when it doesn't work, use localhost:0 |
08:06.41 | Raden | hmmm |
08:08.23 | Raden | p3nguin, yeah works :) |
08:08.47 | Raden | only annoying thing is im connection to a session i have running :( |
08:09.02 | Raden | which is not a huge deal but if someone was by my desk would be bad :( |
08:09.24 | p3nguin | Oh, you're using IM at work? |
08:09.31 | p3nguin | from home. |
08:09.37 | Raden | ? |
08:09.47 | Raden | connecting from home to work |
08:09.51 | Raden | or hotel to work |
08:10.12 | Raden | itd just be really bad to have my comptur unlocked and have any chance of someone besides me or the owner access |
08:10.31 | p3nguin | oh |
08:10.49 | Raden | i should have stated that earlier |
08:10.55 | p3nguin | What was the reason for needing to access the desktop in the first place? |
08:11.17 | Raden | p3nguin, there are probally 30 computers, phone system , security system etc.. etc.. etc.. |
08:11.30 | Raden | my computer at work is the only machine setup to connect to everyting |
08:11.31 | p3nguin | yeah... |
08:11.56 | p3nguin | What applications is on that computer that allows you to access those things? |
08:12.00 | Raden | i just want to get a connection to that soo i can work from home and not have to run in for stupid shit |
08:12.31 | p3nguin | Do you use a web browser to connect to things? |
08:12.44 | Raden | well Zoneminder for security cameras , use rdesktop to connect to windows machine , MPOS accounting, great plains accounting etc.. etcc... |
08:12.49 | Raden | p3nguin, nope :( |
08:13.26 | Raden | p3nguin, is it not possible to run x11vnc on a different display ? |
08:13.47 | Raden | or will it always show on the monitor ? |
08:14.04 | p3nguin | I don't know about the accounting apps, but zoneminder is done from a browser, so you don't need vnc for that... rdesktop, you might be able to proxy through ssh, so no vnc for that... |
08:14.23 | p3nguin | You can run vnc server without connecting to the running desktop display. |
08:14.41 | Raden | thats all i need todo : 0 |
08:14.44 | p3nguin | I just told you how to connect to the running desktop because that is what you told me you wanted. |
08:14.51 | Raden | sorry bro |
08:15.00 | Raden | im a lil tired and bla |
08:15.05 | p3nguin | If you said you didn't want that, you could have used vncserver instead of x11vnc. |
08:15.08 | alancio | Raden, you can also tunnel the connections directly to the servers you want to connect |
08:15.20 | alancio | and you could also use openvpn |
08:15.28 | Raden | vncserver ? |
08:15.47 | p3nguin | If you have ssh, most things will tunnel through it just fine. |
08:16.16 | p3nguin | vncserver (1) - start or stop a VNC server |
08:16.20 | p3nguin | yes, vncserver! |
08:17.25 | Raden | nice :) |
08:17.35 | p3nguin | I should test to see if rdesktop will proxy through ssh/putty. |
08:17.46 | p3nguin | Maybe tomorrow, if I remember. |
08:17.50 | Raden | lol |
08:18.04 | p3nguin | It's already past my bedtime. |
08:18.13 | p3nguin | 02:18 |
08:18.22 | Raden | talk tommorow thanks ;) |
08:19.39 | p3nguin | Just remember this: if you want to use a vnc, you have the option of connecting to a real X11 display (i.e. your desktop) using x11vnc... or you can create virtual desktops using vncserver. |
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08:37.08 | rue_mohr | Raden, so far it would have saved me about 3 hours? if you had been able to tell me what kernel version your using |
08:38.33 | Raden | 2.6 |
08:39.19 | rue_mohr | but not 2.6.19 |
08:39.21 | rue_mohr | but not 2.6.18 |
08:39.43 | rue_mohr | so now I'm gonna spend another hour configuring 2.6.30.10 |
08:42.30 | ChannelZ | eh? |
08:43.03 | rue_mohr | they have alot of **** turned on, it takes a LONG time to go turn it all off |
08:43.33 | smooth_penguin | heh good luck rue_mohr :> |
08:45.14 | Raden | rue_mohr, 2.6.18 i believe |
08:45.32 | rue_mohr | is thre somene about that version you can tell me now that will save me another 3 hours of configuring kernels? |
08:45.45 | rue_mohr | 2.6.28 is broken |
08:45.59 | ChannelZ | broken how |
08:46.07 | rue_mohr | http://www.google.ca/#hl=en&source=hp&q=%22suffix+or+operands+invalid+for+%60cmp%27%22&btnG=Google+Search&meta=&aq=f&oq=%22suffix+or+operands+invalid+for+%60cmp%27%22&fp=19c2af95e536a727 |
08:46.23 | smooth_penguin | Ive run 2.6.28 |
08:46.30 | smooth_penguin | although now am on 2.6.30 |
08:46.35 | ChannelZ | and you're building your own kernel in the first place why? |
08:46.48 | ChannelZ | runs 2.6.24 |
08:47.00 | ChannelZ | aptitude |
08:47.07 | ChannelZ | oops |
08:47.15 | smooth_penguin | well if you have a box running well, I guess it doesnt need much upgrading |
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09:15.56 | smooth_penguin | Do I need pri support within asterisk if Id be using the SPA3102 before the asterisk box? |
09:16.58 | ChannelZ | no |
09:17.05 | smooth_penguin | thanks! |
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09:38.47 | smooth_penguin | any gentoo based asterisk users here? |
09:40.09 | jmcdowell | I am a gentoo user, but do not have asterisk installed on it. |
09:40.25 | smooth_penguin | Im compiling asterisk and although I have specified -zaptel and -pri |
09:40.37 | smooth_penguin | it still seems to be trying to build the chan_zap |
09:40.38 | jmcdowell | I just use the base centos image, it's tempermental enough without throwing gentoos poor portage management these days. |
09:40.54 | smooth_penguin | module |
09:41.00 | jmcdowell | Hmmm. |
09:41.33 | tzafrir_laptop | wonders why the gentoo ebuild still uses chan_zap (as opposed to chan_dahdi) |
09:41.47 | smooth_penguin | net-misc/asterisk-1.2.37 |
09:42.10 | jmcdowell | So, I think that is normal, but can't say for sure. |
09:42.20 | tzafrir_laptop | yikes. 1.2 with its horrible build system? |
09:43.10 | tzafrir_laptop | (1.2 is complete chaos. 1.4 and on has some order in the chaos) |
09:43.17 | jmcdowell | I don't think you can completely remove it. But if you are building from source, why the OLD version of asterisk? |
09:44.22 | smooth_penguin | 1.2.32 1.2.35, those are the only unmasked ones |
09:44.35 | smooth_penguin | although |
09:44.37 | smooth_penguin | <blackace> smooth_penguin: I'd recommend skipping anything older than asterisk 1.6...now that it's in the tree, it tends to build/work way better than 1.2/1.4 |
09:44.38 | jmcdowell | I would be building from a tar ball then. |
09:44.48 | tzafrir_laptop | smooth_penguin, check channes/Makefile and try to figure out why it decided to build chan_zap |
09:44.55 | tzafrir_laptop | (this is 1.2) |
09:45.06 | smooth_penguin | I think ill get 1.6 |
09:46.12 | jmcdowell | looks like the build chains for asterisk are all over the map in gentoo as well. |
09:46.18 | jmcdowell | which is why i stopped using it. |
09:47.58 | jmcdowell | I am really starting to look for a faxing solution |
09:48.04 | jmcdowell | this is proving to be an interesting search |
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09:54.44 | smooth_penguin | jmcdowell, |
09:54.46 | smooth_penguin | if it helps |
09:54.50 | smooth_penguin | <blackace> yeah, it's just that span == spandsp == fax support isn't very intuitive, so I wanted to mention it in case smooth_penguin needed fax support ;) |
09:58.04 | tzafrir_laptop | btw: which version of spandsp? |
09:59.17 | coppice | the latest and greatest, of course |
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10:10.19 | tzafrir_laptop | coppice, well, almost: http://packages.gentoo.org/package/media-libs/spandsp |
10:11.20 | coppice | 0.0.6pre17 would be a lot better |
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11:32.23 | Igramul | Hi, I guess I might have found a defect in res_jabber.c. Should I directly contact the author or is there some kind of defect tracking, I should use? |
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11:36.26 | benngard | can u mix, so u can have sip-accounts im both sop.conf and ast_sip? |
11:36.32 | benngard | sip.conf* |
11:45.25 | fenrus | Igramul, if you can reproduce the problem you should bugreport it if it's not already been done |
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11:52.56 | Igramul | fenrus, Never mind, I just discovered, that this is already known as Issue 15229. |
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12:09.26 | benngard | can some1 tell me what i need to do to load sip users from table ast_sip which is in /var/lib/asterisk/sqlite.db, cant fiigure it out :( |
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12:46.10 | benngard | sip.conf => sqlite,/var/lib/asterisk/sqlite.db,ast_sip dont work any ideas plz |
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14:15.15 | matt_ | hello, i'm getting message saying that a client attemped to authenticate via RSA by the remote host dosn't support it |
14:15.22 | matt_ | how do i enable RSA authentication ? |
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14:27.19 | niekvlessert | hello! |
14:27.50 | niekvlessert | what do you ppl think is the main difference between asterisk 1.6.2 app_fax and the commercial res_fax stuff? |
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14:36.03 | Heretic | lo all |
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14:46.13 | benngard | opps, Segmentation fault :( |
14:48.15 | benngard | Feb 7 15:45:25 sip kernel: [3073758.928068] asterisk[10414]: segfault at 0 ip b7ed9e18 sp b6abb21c error 4 in libc-2.7.so[b7e64000+155000] <- fun to look for that, not :( |
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14:55.19 | proute | hello, I use asterisk 1.4.29 with B410P BRI card. So, I want to connect on my * via my bri. There is no Internet connection and I want to manage my * via bri and my windows computer with rnis modem. Is it possible? if yes, where can I find How to? I found nothing on google, misdn.org etc... |
14:55.24 | proute | thanks for your help |
15:00.05 | [TK]D-Fender | proute: * cannot pass on BRI data if that's what you're looking for. If you have a separate ISDN line for the other PC to use then that can work. |
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15:03.12 | proute | [TK]D-Fender: yes I ry to pas data on BRI. I try this how to present in the link http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk+cmd+PPPD but... :( |
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15:04.47 | [TK]D-Fender | proute: Pretty much NOBODY does this and therefor noone to help you with it |
15:06.01 | proute | ok, thanks for your help, I will try your solution with other isdn line |
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15:14.35 | cod3hax0r | hello everyone good day, is there anyway I can use the DISA pin as a part of a filename for my call recordings? |
15:16.49 | [TK]D-Fender | cod3hax0r: Is the pin coming from a flat-file? |
15:18.55 | benngard | config.c: Realtime mapping for 'sippeers' found to engine 'sqlite', but the engine is not available, cant figure out what i am doing wrong :( |
15:19.21 | [TK]D-Fender | benngard: where did you configure SQLite for it? |
15:19.45 | benngard | .//configure --with-sqlite or something like that |
15:20.19 | [TK]D-Fender | benngard: Yes, but where did you configure it? |
15:20.33 | benngard | [TK]D-Fender: sec |
15:20.43 | cod3hax0r | <[TK]D-Fender> cod3hax0r: Is the pin coming from a flat-file? --> yes |
15:21.03 | benngard | [TK]D-Fender: extconfig.conf |
15:21.16 | [TK]D-Fender | cod3hax0r: Then no. There is no returned value as to which was matched. Implement your own auth then call DISA with no-passward |
15:21.27 | [TK]D-Fender | benngard: Show us |
15:21.30 | benngard | [TK]D-Fender: sipusers => sqlite,general,ast_sip & sippeers => sqlite,general,ast_sip |
15:21.48 | benngard | but i am unsure how to write those lines |
15:22.02 | [TK]D-Fender | benngard: No, thats where you told it to use sqlite. but WHICH sqlite? what database is it expecting to find? File location? table? auth? |
15:22.05 | cod3hax0r | ok.. |
15:22.11 | cod3hax0r | how do i do that TK? |
15:22.26 | benngard | sip*CLI> sqlite show status |
15:22.27 | benngard | SQLite database path: /var/lib/asterisk/sqlite.db |
15:22.39 | [TK]D-Fender | cod3hax0r: prompt for a password. Look ity up yourself in whatever you use as a lit of PW's. Call disa NOT asking for a PW. |
15:22.49 | jmcdowell | does anyone know what "reg.1.thirdPartyName=""" does? I am having an issue where some of the phones will say for example "Game Room" 108 and others will say something like "Kitchen" Sip:108@serveraddress " |
15:23.03 | jmcdowell | I would really like to fix this, and reg.1.thirdPartyName="" looks promising.. |
15:23.06 | [TK]D-Fender | benngard: I'm not going to take som tiny little answer like that. Show full configs, and show that the DB is in good shape |
15:23.15 | cod3hax0r | <[TK]D-Fender> cod3hax0r: prompt for a password. Look ity up yourself in whatever you use as a lit of PW's. Call disa NOT asking for a PW. --> any sample or link? |
15:23.21 | benngard | sec, i will do a pastebin |
15:23.54 | [TK]D-Fender | jmcdowell: You see an IP address when * and the phone are on separate subnets and * reg's to a secondary IP that still maps to the same server bu the call originates from the other interface |
15:24.09 | [TK]D-Fender | cod3hax0r: .... "core show application read", etc |
15:24.27 | jmcdowell | Thank you! That makes sense and should be cleared up nowl |
15:25.00 | jmcdowell | Some of the phones were going out and back in, in other words they were using the external name instead of the internal. |
15:25.11 | jmcdowell | I just fixed the last one.. |
15:25.25 | [TK]D-Fender | jmcdowell: Should definitely be undone. This is a Polycom-specific quirk |
15:25.33 | jmcdowell | Is there a way to make the externals to do the same? |
15:25.43 | jmcdowell | I have one external that will always show up that way then. |
15:25.57 | [TK]D-Fender | jmcdowell: As long as the call comes in with the same IP it reg's to then it won't tack it onto the name. |
15:26.00 | jmcdowell | TK : Great spot on answer though. |
15:26.18 | jmcdowell | I suppose I could always tunnel it in.. |
15:26.24 | [TK]D-Fender | jmcdowell: Externals should see the WAN IP, and that is the IP that should be advertised to it so there shouldn't be a problem |
15:26.44 | jmcdowell | It does advertise the wan.. |
15:26.59 | [TK]D-Fender | jmcdowell: and that is the IP used to reg to it? |
15:27.04 | jmcdowell | I will have to check my sip configs to make sure they are setp correctly. |
15:27.13 | benngard | [TK]D-Fender: http://pastebin.com/d13ea68d6 |
15:27.17 | jmcdowell | They use the dynamic dns name |
15:27.25 | [TK]D-Fender | jmcdowell: Just saying that decreases my faith greatly |
15:27.36 | jmcdowell | Which I do not think the host name is set too.. |
15:27.42 | [TK]D-Fender | jmcdowell: You may simply have to live with it for that phone. |
15:27.56 | jmcdowell | TK : It's the best way I can come up with to keep track of their portal in. |
15:28.06 | benngard | guess i have missed some important stuff |
15:28.26 | jmcdowell | I have some ideas on getting around it, but living with it isn't a big deal either. |
15:29.55 | jmcdowell | I am now getting into the fax arena, which doesn't seem to have matured to fruition yet.. |
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16:00.06 | AeroCloud | Question: With the T option in dial, it uses the same BlindXfer keys when you do a warm transfer? If so, can I make it drop the caller and put the callee into Dialplan? |
16:01.24 | [TK]D-Fender | AeroCloud: No, when you transfer a call, you get dropped |
16:03.50 | AeroCloud | the caller gets dropped right? |
16:04.01 | [TK]D-Fender | AeroCloud: Correct |
16:04.17 | AeroCloud | ok.. but T is possible with warm transfer, correct? |
16:04.31 | [TK]D-Fender | AeroCloud: Taht term does not exist |
16:04.44 | [TK]D-Fender | AeroCloud: Blind/attended |
16:04.52 | AeroCloud | warm transfer = after call is answered |
16:04.55 | [TK]D-Fender | AeroCloud: And the keys are as defined in features.conf |
16:05.02 | AeroCloud | yeah I see the keys |
16:05.12 | AeroCloud | do I have to specify or will it default to # |
16:05.26 | [TK]D-Fender | AeroCloud: Go look at what IS there now. |
16:05.32 | AeroCloud | its commented out |
16:05.49 | AeroCloud | but commented is ;blindxfer => #1 |
16:06.05 | [TK]D-Fender | AeroCloud: then maybe you should enable it and set it to something. |
16:06.07 | AeroCloud | on another note.. |
16:06.14 | [TK]D-Fender | AeroCloud: What kind of phones are you using. |
16:06.16 | [TK]D-Fender | ? |
16:06.21 | AeroCloud | I have not even tried this yet.. thinking about theory |
16:06.36 | AeroCloud | no phones.. .call files to cell/landlines |
16:07.01 | [TK]D-Fender | AeroCloud: ...ok... |
16:07.17 | AeroCloud | is it possible to have 2 blind xfer options ? |
16:07.27 | [TK]D-Fender | AeroCloud: Why? |
16:07.33 | AeroCloud | so maybe #1 to send to sales, #2 to customer support |
16:07.51 | [TK]D-Fender | AeroCloud: that isn't a TARGET. Blind transfer is a feature... not the TARGET |
16:08.05 | [TK]D-Fender | AeroCloud: this is not a 1-step transfer |
16:08.24 | [TK]D-Fender | AeroCloud: Enter code. Get asked where to transfer. Enter textension to transfer to |
16:08.24 | AeroCloud | the feature I'm trying to build cant be done via ivr |
16:08.42 | [TK]D-Fender | AeroCloud: What "feature"? |
16:08.56 | [TK]D-Fender | AeroCloud: And where did the term "IVR" enter into the picture? |
16:09.06 | AeroCloud | it never did ^, I put it in there |
16:09.16 | [TK]D-Fender | AeroCloud: You are mixing terms and are liabel to screw yourself and everyone up in the process if you continue to do so |
16:09.30 | [TK]D-Fender | AeroCloud: Get linear.... |
16:09.37 | AeroCloud | k let me explain |
16:10.07 | AeroCloud | .call file calls CS rep, when CS rep answers, asterisk auto calls a customer |
16:10.21 | AeroCloud | this is based on a "Call me back" script |
16:10.49 | AeroCloud | I need the ability for the CS rep to be able to transfer the call to 1 of 2 places once they talk with the custoemr |
16:11.45 | AeroCloud | within asterisk, not on the phone.. cause the "2 places" numbers will always be different per call.. |
16:12.05 | AeroCloud | based on multiple companies etc.. and leaving the transfer up to CS Rep, ugggg |
16:12.48 | AeroCloud | do you have any ideas? |
16:13.56 | [TK]D-Fender | AeroCloud: there is a nifty variable which sets what CONTEXT is used when a DTMF transfer takes place. SET IT for that call <- |
16:14.18 | [TK]D-Fender | AeroCloud: There is a very useful doc for this in your tarball. |
16:15.15 | AeroCloud | I tried using BackGround() and waiting for 1 or 2.. but once a call is bridged |
16:15.21 | AeroCloud | it wont listen for the dtmf tones |
16:16.52 | [TK]D-Fender | AeroCloud: IVR's don't sit in the background listening during your calls. Don't know where you got that idea from.... |
16:17.02 | [TK]D-Fender | AeroCloud: You still use "T" like normal.... |
16:17.05 | AeroCloud | the dialplan is frozen until Dial() is done.. and using the M() wont allow the Background to work |
16:18.00 | AeroCloud | ok, I will read alot more.. just spent the last 12 hours trying to make this happen, its frustrating |
16:18.06 | AeroCloud | I dont come to this channel first |
16:18.19 | AeroCloud | ty for the info |
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16:28.19 | AeroCloud | ok so using the applicationmap |
16:28.35 | AeroCloud | I can assign like *8, *9 etc.. to do different things |
16:30.08 | [TK]D-Fender | AeroCloud: No need... |
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16:52.49 | Raden | anyone have a idea why i would have a blank screen when connecting to VNC server ? |
16:54.10 | Katty | morning |
16:54.42 | Raden | morning katty |
16:54.47 | Katty | hugs Raden |
16:54.52 | Raden | hugs katty |
16:54.52 | [TK]D-Fender | Katty: Mew. |
16:54.56 | Raden | hows it going ? |
16:54.59 | Katty | i finally got some rest and the ears have quietened themselves. |
16:55.02 | Katty | hugs [TK]D-Fender |
16:55.09 | [TK]D-Fender | Katty: Tinnitius? |
16:55.11 | Katty | quietened? |
16:55.14 | Katty | is that a word? ^_- |
16:55.16 | kfife | new word |
16:55.19 | kfife | as of today |
16:55.23 | Katty | i guess so |
16:55.29 | Katty | they have SHUUUUSHED |
16:55.29 | [TK]D-Fender | Katty: Gimme 2 mins @ urbandictionary.com ;) |
16:55.36 | Katty | k |
16:55.46 | Katty | you outta run Angela through ubrandictionary |
16:56.24 | Katty | i think someone i know put that in there |
16:57.06 | Katty | otherwise, how could it be so acurate? |
16:57.27 | Raden | any idea why id have a blank screen on VNC ? |
16:57.44 | Katty | cause somethin is snickerdoodled up |
16:57.52 | [TK]D-Fender | Raden: I don't think you're in Kansas anymore.... |
16:58.12 | AeroCloud | [TK]D-Fender: can dial plan access another channels variables easily? |
16:58.24 | Katty | i think variables are global |
16:58.38 | AeroCloud | there are channel variables and global variables |
16:58.45 | Katty | ahh |
16:59.09 | [TK]D-Fender | AeroCloud: Not directly. Though an external process that connects through AMI, yes |
16:59.30 | AeroCloud | ty |
16:59.50 | [TK]D-Fender | AeroCloud: I'm I'm sure you are barking up incrementally wrong-er trees |
16:59.55 | AeroCloud | I have half of this working, just gotta get variables through |
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17:00.30 | AeroCloud | hardcoded works great :) |
17:01.44 | Raden | this is annoying i have a screen with a X cursor thats it |
17:02.26 | Alystair | I have a general question regarding voip over 3G... since there have been a few new accouncements recently (regarding some networks anyway). Did they come up with some magical way VOIP suddenly works on the baseline 3G protocol or does it still need to live in the layer above it for IP and murder battery life on cellphones.. |
17:02.32 | p3nguin | raden: That's what vncserver will do until you start a window manager. |
17:03.38 | Alystair | or am I going about this totally wrong and can google for an answer regarding protocols |
17:03.38 | p3nguin | raden: It's not blank if X is actually running, so start a window manager and you'll have a "desktop." |
17:09.05 | Katty | Raden: i put omega 3 on my shopping list |
17:09.31 | Katty | Raden: and i should probably be eating more fish anyway for the high protein...so i put fish on there too |
17:09.32 | Raden | p3nguin, but a window manager was starting automatically before |
17:09.42 | Katty | anyone have any fabulious fish recipes? |
17:09.42 | Raden | Katty, good idea :D |
17:09.46 | Raden | glad to hear it |
17:09.58 | Katty | well if it increases seratonin lvls |
17:10.06 | Katty | that should basically just put me in a better mood |
17:10.11 | Raden | p3nguin, how do i get a window manager working ? |
17:10.15 | Katty | i don't think increasing seratonin lvls is dangerious |
17:10.31 | p3nguin | raden: When you start vncserver, are you using any options? |
17:10.32 | Katty | i've been taking super bcomplex, and vitamin D3 all winter and it's really been helping |
17:10.37 | Raden | Katty, exactly it increases them but more importantly it helps regulates them good for your cardiovascular system as well |
17:10.50 | Katty | course, i also have crittercam...but regardless the depression has been a lot less. |
17:11.05 | Katty | probably a little of both |
17:11.14 | Raden | p3nguin, using the one supplied with yast " remote administration" it was working great last night |
17:11.23 | Katty | Raden: any idea how long it will take to see some results from the omega 3? |
17:11.42 | Katty | someone here takes it, i think it was leifmadsen |
17:11.47 | [TK]D-Fender | Katty: Snickerdoodles |
17:11.56 | [TK]D-Fender | Katty: COMPLETELY |
17:12.01 | p3nguin | raden: I don't use [open]SUSE, so I'm not familiar with how YaST handles things. I pretty much use command line for EVERYTHING. |
17:12.07 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: buwha? |
17:12.53 | Raden | Katty, matters by individual it will be gradual over 2-6 weeks all matters on your system |
17:13.04 | Raden | p3nguin, lemee find the options |
17:13.10 | Katty | Raden: mmmk |
17:13.13 | [TK]D-Fender | Katty: Stop looking to medicate your way to mental well being. Grab an apple and go for a run. Head to the gym. "Christen" another piece of furniture with the SO. |
17:13.53 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: if eating more fish makes me feel better, then i'm going to do it (= |
17:14.06 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: and i do run in the spring/summer/fall, but not he winter |
17:14.14 | [TK]D-Fender | Katty: Yes... eating your way to happiness.... that'll work... |
17:14.15 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: and infact, i've already HAD an apple this mroning, thankyouverymuch |
17:14.23 | [TK]D-Fender | :| |
17:14.31 | Katty | pats [TK]D-Fender |
17:14.31 | p3nguin | raden: Normally, you edit your $HOME/. |
17:14.36 | p3nguin | dammit |
17:14.36 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: thank you for your concern tho |
17:14.39 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: it is very sweet. |
17:15.00 | p3nguin | raden: Normally, you edit your $HOME/.vnc/xstartup file to start you apps, including window manager. |
17:15.31 | Katty | Raden: http://www.muscle-health-fitness.com/foods-that-increase-serotonin.html |
17:16.55 | Raden | p3nguin, you get that cant get in channel without reg nick |
17:17.06 | p3nguin | ? |
17:17.26 | p3nguin | No clue what you're talking about. |
17:18.10 | Raden | -noreset -inetd -once -query localhost -geometry 1280x1024 -depth 8 |
17:18.27 | Raden | p3nguin, i sent you msg from my linux box |
17:18.31 | Raden | but there the options |
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17:19.13 | p3nguin | Does the -inetd option mean that you are running vncserver FROM inetd? |
17:19.33 | Raden | p3nguin, correct |
17:19.50 | Raden | p3nguin, this is opensuses default setup so dont scold me :P |
17:19.58 | Raden | Katty, excellent article |
17:20.45 | p3nguin | raden: Since you're starting vncserver through YaST, you should probably configure it through YaST as well. |
17:22.16 | p3nguin | raden: If you can't seem to find it, you could see if /etc/vnc/xstartup exists and edit it by hand if it's there. |
17:23.20 | Raden | I can configure it through yast |
17:23.38 | Raden | i just dont understand what happened i was getting a normal gui login before |
17:23.43 | Raden | now just the blank screen |
17:24.11 | Raden | /etc/xinit/vnc |
17:25.04 | niekvlessert | raden:h why don't you start a terminal in x and start the vnc daemon bij hand |
17:25.24 | niekvlessert | haven't read all, but that might be a good start |
17:25.49 | p3nguin | He's in an off-site location wanting to use a VNC on his desktop at work. |
17:25.55 | niekvlessert | ok |
17:26.02 | niekvlessert | does he have ssh access? |
17:26.09 | niekvlessert | he can start it from there |
17:26.09 | p3nguin | yep |
17:26.21 | niekvlessert | by locking on to the x.auth file |
17:26.37 | p3nguin | He originally told me he wanted to use his already running desktop session, so I helped him do that last night. |
17:27.24 | p3nguin | Then he said he would rather have a virtual desktop so he can leave his real desktop locked. Which I agree is a good idea in his situation (don't want people in the office watching his screen while he's using it remotely). |
17:28.25 | Raden | p3nguin, i learned alot if it makes u feel better :) |
17:28.56 | p3nguin | I would have used PuTTY from the Windows client to connect to the computer at work, and launched vncserver, then connected to it... but he is currently using YaST to provide vncserver through xinetd. |
17:28.58 | Raden | p3nguin, last night when i tried using vncserver though ssh got same issue no desktop |
17:29.30 | Raden | p3nguin, i can try it either way just enabled in yast last night and all worked now it dont |
17:29.32 | p3nguin | Any method should work, but the configuration via YaST is what I cannot help with. |
17:30.16 | p3nguin | Normally, the xstartup file is used by vncserver to run applications when vncserver starts the desktop session. |
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17:31.42 | Raden | p3nguin, http://pastebin.com/m2498851d |
17:32.21 | p3nguin | Yeah, that's the xinetd service file... |
17:34.29 | Raden | my confussion is how does it know what x desktop or whatever to start ? |
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17:35.55 | p3nguin | When you run the vncserver command, THAT command is a script that reads xstartup to start apps and to start Xvnc. If you don't run vncserver, I have no idea where it gets its info. |
17:36.14 | p3nguin | The vncserver wrapper script is actually quite informative to read. |
17:36.20 | niekvlessert | sry i'm back |
17:36.31 | niekvlessert | lots of asterisk talk i see! :) |
17:36.49 | Raden | p3nguin, its just using Xvnc |
17:36.54 | Raden | from what i can tell |
17:36.57 | p3nguin | I see that. |
17:37.11 | Raden | this is very odd |
17:37.20 | niekvlessert | p3nguin: i agree with your method |
17:37.23 | p3nguin | This further supports the fact that I wouldn't run vnc server from xinetd, and would run it as needed via "vncserver" command. |
17:37.26 | niekvlessert | why use yast for it... |
17:37.36 | Raden | p3nguin, ok im going your route one moment |
17:37.43 | niekvlessert | to make things more complicated.. |
17:37.53 | niekvlessert | you might run vnc all the time |
17:38.11 | niekvlessert | and have a iptables rule in your .bashrc to open up the port if you login with ssh |
17:38.12 | niekvlessert | ;) |
17:38.32 | p3nguin | That won't work. |
17:38.47 | niekvlessert | why won't it |
17:39.19 | niekvlessert | well you'd have to be root to run the iptables rule... true |
17:39.22 | p3nguin | I guess if you're setting up a VNC server (computer to serve a bunch of VNC desktops), using vnc from xinetd/inetd might be reasonable. But if you're setting up those services, you probably already know how to configure the system to do so. |
17:39.52 | niekvlessert | true |
17:40.03 | Raden | p3nguin, first time with vnc and your method seems the most secure and simplest and trouble free |
17:40.05 | p3nguin | So in this case, drop inetd and run vncserver as the user. |
17:40.37 | p3nguin | Configure your $HOME/.vnc/xstartup to run any apps, including the window manager. |
17:40.39 | Raden | yup :) |
17:41.07 | p3nguin | Use ssh to create the secure channel to view the vnc and skip any alterations of the firewall. |
17:41.42 | niekvlessert | agree... much beter |
17:41.55 | niekvlessert | ssh -L 10000:localhost:5900 root@server |
17:42.05 | p3nguin | (using putty) |
17:42.14 | niekvlessert | yeah |
17:42.16 | niekvlessert | p3nguin |
17:42.17 | p3nguin | and never ssh as root. |
17:42.22 | niekvlessert | you ever tried ssh -w? |
17:42.28 | [TK]D-Fender | Actually.. just tunnel X and forget VNC |
17:42.42 | niekvlessert | well if you have speed you can tunnel x |
17:42.42 | Raden | [TK]D-Fender, ? |
17:42.58 | p3nguin | niekvlessert: No, I don't use tun devices. |
17:42.59 | niekvlessert | or do we have compression nowadays? |
17:43.00 | [TK]D-Fender | SILLY PEOPLE |
17:43.02 | Raden | I have 768k bi-directional |
17:43.23 | niekvlessert | that won't be enough i guess |
17:43.24 | Raden | why am i forwarding 10,000 tp 5900 ? |
17:43.35 | p3nguin | Mabe that's what you wanted to do. |
17:43.41 | Raden | lol |
17:43.48 | niekvlessert | because it won't collide with the vnc running on ur own computer |
17:44.02 | p3nguin | You probably wanted to be sneaky and connect to port 10000 to reach your vnc server. |
17:44.12 | niekvlessert | fender, you think it's possible to tunnel x across slow links these days? |
17:44.23 | niekvlessert | maybe x.org has more options in that array |
17:44.26 | niekvlessert | area |
17:45.04 | p3nguin | I would just run a low-bit vnc session and forget it. He wants a full desktop, but doesn't want to share his real desktop running on that computer. |
17:45.32 | p3nguin | 64 colors, compressed... minimal bandwidth requirements. |
17:45.49 | Raden | xrdb $HOME/.Xresources |
17:45.50 | Raden | <PROTECTED> |
17:45.50 | Raden | <PROTECTED> |
17:45.50 | Raden | twm & |
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17:46.00 | niekvlessert | [TK]D - Fender: are you there? just in case something might be possible i didn't knew :) |
17:46.16 | p3nguin | Running it through the secure channel created by ssh will add a little overhead, but I think it's worth it to keep the vnc connection encrypted. |
17:46.17 | Raden | p3nguin, how do i get a login ? |
17:46.19 | niekvlessert | p3nguin: yeah, or freenx could also be easy on suse |
17:46.30 | niekvlessert | p3nguin: agree |
17:46.31 | Raden | p3guin i agree |
17:47.31 | p3nguin | raden: One more time: use the xstartup file located at $HOME/.vnc/xstartup to control what apps get started, including the window manager. |
17:47.39 | Raden | im doing ssh w/ tunnel w/ vncserver |
17:48.01 | Raden | p3nguin, thats the output of my xstartup how do i start kde ? |
17:48.20 | p3nguin | See the last line? twm & |
17:48.26 | Raden | yup |
17:48.31 | p3nguin | That is your window manager. |
17:48.37 | p3nguin | If you don't like twm, change it. |
17:48.44 | Raden | i want kde |
17:48.47 | p3nguin | and don't use something heavy like KDE. |
17:48.52 | Raden | omg :( |
17:49.00 | niekvlessert | you should use fluxbox :) |
17:49.03 | p3nguin | Use something sensible like fluxbox or openbox. |
17:49.33 | p3nguin | If you really WANT to use KDE, change twm to startkde |
17:49.43 | p3nguin | So that last line will be startkde & |
17:50.18 | p3nguin | Save, exit, kill any vncserver processes, run vncserver again. |
17:51.07 | Raden | ill look into others as well :) |
17:51.33 | p3nguin | I would use fluxbox and not give it a second thought. But I am also comfortable using fluxbox already. |
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17:53.39 | Raden | speed is very acceptable in 8 bit depth :) |
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17:58.04 | Raden | bows down to p3nguin working bueatiful bro :) |
17:59.13 | p3nguin | awesome |
17:59.43 | Raden | higher the resolution im presuming the more bandwith ? |
17:59.59 | p3nguin | yeah |
18:00.32 | p3nguin | The higher the resolution and the more colors you use, the slower the framerate will appear. |
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18:00.44 | p3nguin | You'll be able to see the refresh. :/ |
18:01.11 | Raden | at 1920x1080 24 bit i do :) |
18:01.13 | Raden | LOL |
18:01.24 | Raden | at 1280x720 8 is smooth as can be |
18:02.02 | Raden | ill have to route our backup 1mb / 1mb internet connection to my linux box at work that connection only used in fall over :) |
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18:03.01 | p3nguin | I would choose the smallest screen size that I can efficiently user, and then increase my color depth until the refresh is too slow, then back it off one setting. So if 256 colors starts messing up, I would back it off to 64 colors. |
18:03.24 | p3nguin | err, efficiently use |
18:03.48 | jo8330 | hi all. I'm having a strange issue.. for whatever reasons .wav files I record using MONITOR cannot be played back |
18:04.00 | jo8330 | with asterisk 1.6.2.0 |
18:04.11 | p3nguin | jo8330: What are you doing to attempt the playback? |
18:04.14 | Raden | p3nguin, we have apps that are impossbile to use under 1280x720 :( |
18:04.23 | jo8330 | p3nguin: sox, and audacity |
18:04.25 | jo8330 | can't read the files |
18:04.31 | p3nguin | raden: Then you know which size you'll have to use. |
18:04.46 | jo8330 | If I `file` it, linux says it's a "RIFF (little-endian) data, WAVE audio, Microsoft PCM, 16 bit, mono 8000 Hz" |
18:04.56 | p3nguin | jo8330: Check permissions, too. |
18:05.03 | niekvlessert | maybe: is it a WAV file or a wav file? |
18:05.22 | jo8330 | i see the file growing, and I am trying to open it after the fact |
18:05.27 | Raden | p3nguin, appreciate all your help and patience I understand the workings of vnc much better now |
18:05.56 | niekvlessert | it's important to watch out with capitcals |
18:06.01 | niekvlessert | capital |
18:06.07 | niekvlessert | characters in the extension |
18:06.18 | jo8330 | WAV vs wav ? |
18:06.21 | niekvlessert | ye |
18:06.29 | jo8330 | interesting. what is the difference? |
18:06.32 | p3nguin | He was able to `file' the filename, so I assume he knows the filename. |
18:06.41 | niekvlessert | that it will work work or won't |
18:06.48 | niekvlessert | at least in 1.4.26.2 :) |
18:06.57 | lindi- | asterisk is sensitive to file extensions? jikes |
18:07.09 | p3nguin | Of course it is. |
18:07.12 | niekvlessert | it seems that way in that area |
18:07.26 | lindi- | { "wav", "audio/x-wav" }, ? |
18:07.36 | p3nguin | Linux and the file system say case matters. |
18:08.00 | p3nguin | "play yourfile.WAV" If it can't play, something is screwed up. |
18:08.03 | lindi- | '"wav" => { name => "Uncompressed WAV",' |
18:08.07 | lindi- | '"WAV" => { name => "GSM Compressed WAV",' |
18:08.10 | lindi- | interesting |
18:08.29 | jo8330 | neat. anyway I just tried both and the same result. |
18:08.34 | jo8330 | i see the -in and -out files growing |
18:08.37 | jo8330 | i end the call, they stop |
18:08.41 | p3nguin | `play' should play both types, so just type the filename correctly and it should play. |
18:08.44 | jo8330 | but nobody seems to be able to read them properly. |
18:08.48 | jo8330 | eg. sox, nor audacity |
18:08.58 | p3nguin | Did you ever check the permissions like I asked? |
18:09.11 | jo8330 | yes perms are ok |
18:09.32 | p3nguin | `play' doesn't show any output describing what's wrong? |
18:11.03 | jo8330 | i can try play. sec |
18:11.58 | jo8330 | <DAHDI/1-1>AGI Rx << EXEC MONITOR "wav,/tmp/test" |
18:12.03 | jo8330 | that is the AGI command I am using. |
18:13.13 | niekvlessert | ?? |
18:13.21 | niekvlessert | even audacity can't read them? |
18:13.30 | jo8330 | yeah |
18:13.32 | niekvlessert | so your asterisk creates wav files which no program can read? |
18:13.37 | jo8330 | exactly. |
18:13.45 | p3nguin | bummer |
18:13.57 | niekvlessert | even asterisk itself can't read them |
18:14.05 | jo8330 | correct. |
18:14.09 | jo8330 | the files have content though |
18:14.14 | niekvlessert | well i have no idea :) |
18:14.41 | jo8330 | ill try gsm and see what happens. |
18:14.46 | niekvlessert | plz do |
18:17.35 | Raden | later all see yeah later p3nguin , Katty |
18:19.00 | jo8330 | doing gsm is producing 0 byte files.. lol |
18:19.03 | jmcdowell | anyone with faxing experience? |
18:19.36 | jo8330 | ok gsm works |
18:20.17 | jo8330 | after a while asterisk flushed data, and sox is able to understand it. |
18:20.17 | p3nguin | I know some things about faxing, but since you prefer to ignore me, you'll have to get someone else to hold your hand. |
18:20.38 | jo8330 | so yeah gsm works, wav doesn't... ! |
18:20.52 | jaytee | I remember those commercials from AT&T that used to say, "Someday you'll be able to fax from the beach!" and I'd think, "great! now these assholes are conspiring to ruin my vacation!" |
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18:21.40 | p3nguin | hehe |
18:22.14 | jo8330 | 'gsm' works, 'WAV' works, 'wav' doesn't. |
18:22.35 | jo8330 | i guess this is an asterisk 1.6.2 bug |
18:25.48 | jo8330 | is anyone running 1.6.2 able to confirm? |
18:32.09 | jo8330 | yup definitely an asterisk bug :( |
18:32.18 | jo8330 | i guess it's too soon to use 1.6.2 |
18:32.43 | Amorsen | Does ReceiveFax automatically turn off echo cancellation if running on a DAHDI channel? |
18:33.10 | rue_mohr | ok compile problems, with configure... |
18:33.31 | rue_mohr | configure: error: in `/root/files_loc/asterisk-1.6.0.22': configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check |
18:33.31 | [TK]D-Fender | joIs there a filed bug for this? |
18:33.40 | rue_mohr | there a common solution for this one? |
18:33.52 | Amorsen | rue_mohr: yum install gcc-c++ or the equivalent apt-get? |
18:33.58 | lindi- | rue_mohr: debian? |
18:34.01 | [TK]D-Fender | rue_mohr: You're missing some base pre-req's which haven't changed in years |
18:34.03 | rue_mohr | yup |
18:34.05 | rue_mohr | just working on that |
18:34.14 | lindi- | rue_mohr: "apt-get build-dep asterisk" should download all build dependencies |
18:35.25 | jo8330 | [TK]D-Fender: not that I can find. is the proper place to look issues.asterisk.org ? |
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18:35.56 | niekvlessert | lindi-: i didn't know that, how does that apt-get work? |
18:36.18 | [TK]D-Fender | jo8330: yes |
18:36.20 | jo8330 | perhaps this is related: https://issues.asterisk.org/view.php?id=16610 although I'm not using Solaris |
18:36.21 | p3nguin | That's a difficult question. |
18:36.33 | niekvlessert | is it something stored at debian? |
18:36.56 | p3nguin | There is a sources file which lists repositories. |
18:37.19 | rue_mohr | (g++ was the key package I'z missing :) |
18:37.27 | rue_mohr | thanks |
18:37.46 | lindi- | niekvlessert: it looks at the "asterisk" source package and it's Build-Depends field |
18:37.57 | p3nguin | its |
18:37.58 | lindi- | s/it's/its/ |
18:38.01 | p3nguin | haha |
18:38.07 | niekvlessert | very nice! useful sometimes |
18:38.14 | niekvlessert | should have known that ages ago.......... |
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18:38.59 | lindi- | niekvlessert: it takes a lot of work to keep these fields up to date but they are of great assistance. I really like that I can "fakeroot apt-get --build source <foo>" for any package I like and it is guaranteed to work |
18:39.25 | p3nguin | What if it doesn't work? |
18:39.32 | p3nguin | Do you get your money back? |
18:39.42 | Amorsen | If it breaks you get to keep both pieces |
18:39.50 | p3nguin | sweet! |
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18:41.41 | lindi- | p3nguin: then you file a bug and the package will get dropped out of the distro unless they can fix it :) |
18:44.19 | niekvlessert | ok i've logged this stuff... pretty cool |
18:47.09 | benngard | when u use sql for storing sip users instead of sip.conf, is it correct that the normal "sip show peers" dont show them? |
18:48.46 | p3nguin | I would expect they would still show, since they are still sip devices on the system. |
18:48.48 | niekvlessert | you mean u use asterisk realtime? |
18:48.59 | niekvlessert | we have experience with that... |
18:49.08 | benngard | for example sip show peer 0317998975 Peer 0317998975 not found. but sip show peer 0317998975 load works |
18:49.10 | niekvlessert | rtcachepeers=yes |
18:49.13 | niekvlessert | or something |
18:49.39 | benngard | lets try |
18:49.39 | niekvlessert | yeah, we haven't been able to solve that... so we stopped trying to store asterisk users in the db |
18:50.09 | niekvlessert | besides that what you're saying, it has other disadvantages |
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18:50.16 | benngard | damn i spent the whole sunday to get it to work :( |
18:50.25 | benngard | it is actaully working |
18:50.39 | niekvlessert | i know, but it'll bring you nothing |
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18:50.55 | niekvlessert | advantage: users are in db, much better 'cosmeticly'. |
18:51.14 | niekvlessert | disadvantage: no qualify times |
18:51.29 | niekvlessert | disadvantage: you can't reload, you lose your users |
18:51.47 | niekvlessert | they should come back, but that'll take >1 hour |
18:52.38 | niekvlessert | don't even think of putting queues in the db |
18:52.47 | niekvlessert | at least that's my idea... |
18:52.54 | niekvlessert | just use ad db to generate sip.conf |
18:53.02 | niekvlessert | or sip.inc |
18:53.07 | niekvlessert | and include it with sip.conf |
18:53.18 | niekvlessert | and queues.conf |
18:53.23 | niekvlessert | the same |
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19:08.47 | jeff_phillips | hi. |
19:09.21 | jeff_phillips | I got chan_mobile working (sort of) to use my cell phone as a trunk via bluetooth. However the sound quality is aweful, very choppy |
19:10.16 | jeff_phillips | any ideas what could cause this? it almost sounds like a timing issue or the packet size / frequency aren't framed correctly or something |
19:13.38 | p3nguin | katty: Lunch time! http://imagebin.org/83765 |
19:16.00 | Amorsen | Ah DAHDI turns off echo cancellation automatically when a fax tone is heard. Clever |
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19:20.30 | Amorsen | Perhaps a bit stealth to call it CED detected |
19:21.27 | rue_mohr | not to jinx it, but sofar this asterisk reinstall is going nicely |
19:21.51 | benngard | niekvlessert: rtcachefriends was the right word |
19:22.13 | benngard | 0317998975/0317998975 90.230.92.67 D 34996 Unmonitored Cached RT |
19:22.25 | niekvlessert | :) |
19:22.42 | niekvlessert | put qualify field in db also on yes |
19:22.50 | niekvlessert | but when you do a reload all peers are gone |
19:22.55 | niekvlessert | at least in asterisk 1.4.26.2 |
19:22.56 | niekvlessert | still |
19:23.32 | p3nguin | If you're using realtime, why would you reload? |
19:23.39 | rue_mohr | was there a startup script install provision with asterisk or am I still making that myself? |
19:23.47 | rue_mohr | (debian) |
19:24.07 | p3nguin | /etc/init.d/asterisk ? |
19:24.25 | rue_mohr | thats what I mean, do I hand roll my own? |
19:24.32 | rue_mohr | or is there one hidden in here |
19:24.50 | p3nguin | It doesn't exist after you did "apt-get install asterisk"? How strange. |
19:25.08 | rue_mohr | I compiled |
19:25.29 | rue_mohr | I'd feel lucky if debian gave me asterisk 1.0 |
19:25.30 | niekvlessert | because not all stuff is in realtime you need |
19:26.00 | niekvlessert | you still need to edit some files sometimes |
19:26.03 | niekvlessert | and then do a reload |
19:26.05 | rue_mohr | ah, hello, contrib/init.d |
19:26.32 | benngard | niekvlessert: i did a reload and i didnt shot myself in the foot |
19:26.41 | benngard | still registered |
19:27.09 | niekvlessert | interesting |
19:27.17 | niekvlessert | then maybe this behaviour is better in asterisk 1.6 |
19:27.32 | p3nguin | contrib/init.d/rc.debian.asterisk? |
19:27.37 | niekvlessert | because we have shot ourselves in the foot enough times to miss a few feet so to speak... |
19:27.38 | benngard | very, i am on todays * and i mean todays version :) |
19:28.43 | rue_mohr | ahhaha old backup, zaptel.conf :( |
19:28.47 | benngard | niekvlessert: i had to manually fix the ast_sip table, the example in trunk is missing some fields |
19:29.36 | niekvlessert | ok |
19:29.48 | benngard | for example lastms = 100 |
19:29.58 | niekvlessert | lastms? |
19:30.00 | niekvlessert | what is that |
19:30.08 | rue_mohr | has anyone made an online page for translating zaptel.conf to dahdi.conf, I cant remember what changed |
19:30.22 | benngard | dont know yet, but looks like the qulify time |
19:30.40 | benngard | do need to dig around more in the code |
19:31.21 | benngard | fro me it sounds like last milli seconds |
19:31.35 | benngard | and 100 ms is what my home sip phone normally has |
19:31.42 | benngard | for* |
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19:33.03 | rue_mohr | hmm I dont think anything changed in this one |
19:33.41 | benngard | niekvlessert: did a very small small test, did call a meetme root, and did a reload, np |
19:33.51 | benngard | room* |
19:33.58 | benngard | I NEED A NEW KEYBOARD! |
19:35.30 | [TK]D-Fender | rue_mohr: very little has changed and the docs should be in the tarball along with samples |
19:36.04 | rue_mohr | most of the stuff that I remember changing I dealt with on that last install |
19:36.15 | rue_mohr | like I thought the old name was dahdi :) |
19:36.24 | tzafrir_laptop | rue_mohr, just copy it over |
19:36.44 | tzafrir_laptop | (and add 'echocancel' lines for channels) |
19:36.45 | rue_mohr | the card is up, I feel past the worst of it, just need to recover extensions.conf and all the sound files |
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19:37.07 | rue_mohr | its a T! channelbank and it just does bridging, no echo problems |
19:37.42 | rue_mohr | hehe T! is general hazord... |
19:37.46 | rue_mohr | a |
19:38.14 | thehar | When using AddQueueMember() and adding an agent with a Local channel, it is showing "Invalid" in the queue. Yes chan_local, pbx_config, & pbx_ael are all preloaded. |
19:38.24 | niekvlessert | hmmm interesting |
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19:38.36 | niekvlessert | and benngard, why do you want realtime? |
19:38.46 | niekvlessert | besides that it's more beautiful |
19:39.12 | thehar | Anyone have a suggestion? |
19:40.47 | [TK]D-Fender | thehar: module reload app_queue.so |
19:41.25 | thehar | I did that and restarted asterisk with those modules preloaded. Joined the Local channel to the queue and still showing Invalid. |
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19:42.57 | benngard | niekvlessert: was just testing stuff |
19:43.14 | niekvlessert | ok |
19:43.42 | benngard | niekvlessert: think there is alot of new stuff in trunk: 0317998975/0317998975 90.230.92.67 D 34996 OK (70 ms) Cached RT :) |
19:44.12 | niekvlessert | can you change your qualify time? |
19:44.18 | niekvlessert | try typing 500 in the field plz :) |
19:44.51 | benngard | in qualify field? |
19:45.56 | niekvlessert | yeah |
19:46.02 | benngard | sec |
19:46.13 | niekvlessert | in sip.conf you can do qualify=500 or qualify=yes |
19:47.01 | [TK]D-Fender | thehar: Do precisely as I've suggested |
19:47.14 | benngard | niekvlessert: 0317998975 (Unspecified) D 0 UNREACHABLE Cached RT |
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19:47.35 | [TK]D-Fender | thehar: And also pastbin your dialplan and AQM attempt |
19:48.04 | niekvlessert | what's field type in database? |
19:48.56 | niekvlessert | but it seems it's still not working |
19:49.10 | niekvlessert | it's bad to qualify for example a 500 phones at the same time |
19:49.14 | rue_mohr | ok is /en/ automatically appended to the dirpath of sound files or can I put them back a dir |
19:49.27 | niekvlessert | which will happen when just yes is overthere |
19:49.39 | niekvlessert | better to add a random value |
19:50.29 | thehar | [TK]D-Fender: I did reload app_queue. I'm using the AEL from /doc/queues-with-callback-members.txt. |
19:52.14 | [TK]D-Fender | thehar: Don't care what doc you based your work off of... show me what YOU did. |
19:53.07 | mrprozac | sorry for barging in with this question. I have installed *now yesterday and am receiving calls from my incomming SIP provider (with local phonenumber). I was wondering if i could set up a different outbound route to use with another provider (which has lower costs than my incoming provider) |
19:53.34 | niekvlessert | sure |
19:53.36 | niekvlessert | dialplan |
19:53.48 | mrprozac | thank you, i will look into that :) |
19:54.14 | niekvlessert | exten => _.,Dial(SIP/ bla) |
19:54.23 | [TK]D-Fender | mrprozac: ..... #freepbx <------- |
19:54.25 | [TK]D-Fender | ~freepbx |
19:54.26 | infobot | [~freepbx] FreePBX is unable to be supported here. It is made up of complex dialplans and scripts which can't be easily supported by people who aren't deeply involved. Try joining #freepbx and asking there, or fpbx |
19:54.31 | [TK]D-Fender | mrprozac: You're in the wrong channel... |
19:54.33 | rue_mohr | [TK]D-Fender, how many problems people come in on, re audio quality, with sagnoma? |
19:54.44 | benngard | niekvlessert: qualify CHAR(3) |
19:54.49 | niekvlessert | or something don't do it a lot |
19:54.49 | mrprozac | sorry for the trouble |
19:54.56 | Amorsen | "Which best describes you:" |
19:54.59 | Amorsen | "I am a carrier" |
19:55.02 | [TK]D-Fender | rue_mohr: Maybe 1 or 2 ever that I can recall besides you.... |
19:55.11 | Amorsen | gets flashes from bad scifi movies |
19:55.16 | rue_mohr | but my problem was with a digium card |
19:55.19 | thehar | [TK]D-Fender: http://pastebin.ca/1789350 |
19:55.28 | [TK]D-Fender | rue_mohr: Oh... then 1 or 2 ever :) |
19:55.55 | rue_mohr | are you telling me nobody EVER has audio problems with digium cards? |
19:55.57 | niekvlessert | benngard: ok |
19:56.16 | niekvlessert | rue_mohr: do u have echo cancellation module? |
19:56.19 | [TK]D-Fender | thehar: Don't trust your AEL, show me the loaded dialplan |
19:56.24 | thehar | one sec |
19:56.37 | rue_mohr | niekvlessert, we did buy one yes, and it donsn't help much |
19:56.46 | [TK]D-Fender | rue_mohr: No, I'm telling you that virtually no-one has audio problems with SANGOMA cards. Pay attention :p |
19:56.47 | thehar | want all of the contexts it goes through, [TK]D-Fender ? |
19:56.48 | rue_mohr | this system I'm doing now if different |
19:56.56 | rue_mohr | [TK]D-Fender, ok |
19:57.22 | rue_mohr | its gonna eat at me forever wondering if I should have got a sagnoma card in the first place |
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19:57.49 | [TK]D-Fender | rue_mohr: If it makes you feel any worse I can nag you some more too... ;) |
19:58.01 | [TK]D-Fender | fetches some salt&pepper. |
19:58.08 | rue_mohr | haha |
19:58.14 | [TK]D-Fender | fetches some fava beans and a nice chianti |
19:59.02 | rue_mohr | we could have put out 5 asterisk systems to customers if that damned thing had worked right |
19:59.41 | Amorsen | rue_mohr: Digital or analog? |
19:59.46 | [TK]D-Fender | rue_mohr: That over-flogged equine of yours seems to have cost you far more than a year of greif now.... |
20:00.03 | rue_mohr | last week we were talking about line problems we have (general phone line organization) "this system can do menus? I didn't know that" guess he didn't understand when I said it could do 'anything' |
20:00.17 | rue_mohr | [TK]D-Fender, oh yea |
20:00.41 | rue_mohr | I'm reminded every time I have to get a panasonic TDA30 to do 'something simple' for a customer |
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20:01.20 | thehar | [TK]D-Fender: http://pastebin.ca/1789358 |
20:01.35 | paulc | LOL.. ah, Panasonic.. those systems used to be "interesting" sometimes. I still love mucking around with Norstars too.. |
20:02.07 | rue_mohr | Amorsen, its a long story, I went out on a limb and spent a lot of company money on a asterisk system for the place I work, the digium line cards suck (echo and audio level) and I had... havvvve ...challenges with the polycom phones |
20:02.22 | Amorsen | So analog |
20:02.35 | rue_mohr | the whole thing imploded on me and every week I get reminded about how the audio on the phone system sucks |
20:02.55 | jaytee | the words mucking and Norstars goes well together. it's very similar to cleaning out a horse stall or "mucking" as it's also called. |
20:03.04 | rue_mohr | tdm800P card with hardware echo can, 4x fxo 2x fxs |
20:03.29 | jo8330 | Is echo cancellation required for T1's ? |
20:03.32 | paulc | LOL @jaytee - we just got a BCM at work and despite being VoIP enabled and stuff, I'm surprised at how similar it is to Norstars for programming, line appearances, "trunks" etc.. |
20:03.34 | [TK]D-Fender | thehar: Why do I NOT see you showing me your [techagents] context in there? |
20:03.37 | jo8330 | I'm finding better results when setting echocancel=no |
20:03.42 | jo8330 | for double-speak recording. |
20:03.42 | paulc | rue_mohr: what kind of Polycom challenges? |
20:03.46 | thehar | my bad.. .sec.. |
20:04.09 | rue_mohr | dont know if anyone can confirm, but it SEEMS that the volume control on a polycom 601 controls the speaker AND the mic volume, which is hell on carefully adjusted echo can settings |
20:04.12 | thehar | http://pastebin.ca/1789363 |
20:04.20 | [TK]D-Fender | paulc: BCM was Nortel's retard attemp to Crazy-Glue VoIP onto the Norstar. |
20:04.22 | rue_mohr | polycom is not capable of answering me on that |
20:04.32 | gr0mit | rue_mohr, I gave up on analogue cards a long while ago |
20:04.38 | rue_mohr | nor can they answer what the max and min settings are for the gain adjustments |
20:04.39 | [TK]D-Fender | paulc: Its a flaming piece of shit that in the end is no better than the sum of its parts... and possibly worse |
20:04.48 | rue_mohr | we have no digital provider |
20:04.50 | jaytee | paulc, last I heard Nortel had switched their BCM line for VoIP to running a port of sipXecs. they even contributed code to the open-source repository. |
20:05.00 | gr0mit | can you not get any BRI ? |
20:05.04 | [TK]D-Fender | rue_mohr: Keeping in mind... your card is plagued by audio issues. |
20:05.08 | jaytee | before they went belly up and sold off their CPE business |
20:05.16 | Amorsen | rue_mohr: Don't try to echo cancel towards your phones, if they can't do it themselves then you're dead anyway |
20:05.21 | rue_mohr | the bos dosn't want to pay 80/mo for 1 line, he wont pay $1000/mo for 2 |
20:05.25 | Amorsen | SIP phones that is |
20:05.35 | rue_mohr | yea |
20:05.49 | rue_mohr | its an old wound, rather not pick at it now |
20:06.12 | gr0mit | $1000 for a BRI? |
20:06.18 | rue_mohr | right now I'm re-setting up the home system, the bearings went on the harddrive platter and the result wasn't pretty |
20:06.22 | rue_mohr | gr0mit, yep |
20:06.31 | gr0mit | which country are u in? |
20:06.34 | rue_mohr | canada |
20:06.46 | rue_mohr | actaully, iirc, its more like $1300 |
20:06.51 | *** join/#asterisk moldy (~rene@unaffiliated/moldy) |
20:06.52 | rue_mohr | per mo |
20:06.55 | moldy | hi |
20:06.57 | gr0mit | good grief!!! |
20:07.03 | gr0mit | a T! would be cheaper |
20:07.05 | *** part/#asterisk Alystair (~bob@CPE001d7315f431-CM00223a5f4fe5.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
20:07.06 | gr0mit | T1 |
20:07.09 | rue_mohr | and pri isn't avaiable |
20:07.12 | paulc | [TK]D-Fender: It's sad because we had a CIC system, analog phones via channel banks, call control on the PC. It had to go (licensing costs). I was like "4 or 5 grand for a server or two, T1 card or two, reuse the channel banks + phones, and let's get sexy!". The outgoing IT ops guy was pressed for time and went for a $24k second hand BCM with a ton of digital phones. BZZZT :-| |
20:07.35 | rue_mohr | er, anyhow |
20:07.44 | gr0mit | no T1 either - you are out of luck unless you port your numbers to a voip provider |
20:07.45 | paulc | rue_mohr Can you port your numbers to a SIP provider? |
20:07.58 | paulc | (and where doesn't have T1?) |
20:07.59 | rue_mohr | not the numbers we have |
20:08.12 | jo8330 | [TK]D-Fender: does it make sense to turn off echo cancellation for PRIs ? I find if I enable it I get a lot of cutting out in recordings. but if i set echocancel=no then recordings sound perfect, and incoming & outgoing audio are isolated |
20:08.16 | rue_mohr | sechelt bc canada |
20:08.29 | gr0mit | for $1000 per monht i would change your numbers! |
20:08.33 | rue_mohr | sorry I mixed up, bri isn't available and T1 is $1300/mo |
20:08.47 | gr0mit | and set up call divert to a SIP provider |
20:08.49 | rue_mohr | we use standard lines at $80/mo |
20:08.51 | Amorsen | How do I tell whether the hardware echo cancellation on my TE420B card is used? |
20:08.58 | rue_mohr | we dont have a sip provider here |
20:09.06 | rue_mohr | small town |
20:09.15 | gr0mit | rue_mohr, ok, so grab some SIP numbers and set diverts |
20:09.34 | [TK]D-Fender | joWhat card? |
20:09.41 | [TK]D-Fender | jo8330: and what EC? |
20:09.42 | paulc | gr0mit: I was just going to say that.. either that or a hardware FXO term box |
20:09.42 | jo8330 | digium TE122 |
20:09.54 | [TK]D-Fender | jo8330: Issues I don't hear about with Sangoma... |
20:10.11 | paulc | with forwarding though - are you limited to as many concurrent calls as physical trunks? (you're not in the UK, it's all billable so the telco loves it, but that's different here with unlimited local calling) |
20:10.49 | jo8330 | [TK]D-Fender: I hae the hardware module, so I didn't specify EC in /etc/dahdi |
20:11.08 | gr0mit | is in the UK but I think in .ca you can get a package which has unlimited local calls |
20:11.19 | jo8330 | in cahn_dahdi I put echocancel=1024, but when I do that, you can hear cutting out in the -in.wav when far end is speaking |
20:11.39 | paulc | is in .ca but from .uk :) |
20:11.42 | jo8330 | i guess having it set to echocancel=no i risk echo issues with POTS ? |
20:12.00 | Amorsen | That's an awful lot of taps |
20:12.15 | paulc | rue_mohr how much traffic do you take/make? toll free via SIP might be affordable if the traffic volumes are right |
20:12.17 | Amorsen | Do you have an extremely long wire? |
20:12.20 | jo8330 | Amorsen: me? |
20:12.26 | Amorsen | Yes |
20:12.37 | gr0mit | rue_mohr, i.e.call-divert to a 1800 number? |
20:12.41 | paulc | rue_mohr or maybe a hardware FXO box.. trying to think of the name I can't remember.. they specialise in gateway boxes |
20:12.47 | jo8330 | no. i assumed this was the correct setting given that the hardware module does 128ms = 1024 |
20:12.50 | [TK]D-Fender | thehar: I don't see a match for 1201 in [techagents]. The only thing you have is 6094 |
20:12.57 | gr0mit | a Sipura/linksys box, ugh |
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20:13.18 | jo8330 | if I turn it off, the recordings sound perfectly, uplink and downlink audio are seperated. but i wonder what the risk of doing that is... i guess it depends who's on the other end |
20:13.28 | moldy | hi. i'm new to asterisk and telephony stuff. can i use asterisk with a traditional (not ip) phone line? |
20:13.30 | gr0mit | just doesn't install asterisk boxes on any analogue trunks |
20:13.38 | jo8330 | moldy: yes |
20:13.51 | [TK]D-Fender | moldy: Yes. You will simply need a hardware interface to plug the line into. |
20:13.53 | thehar | ah hrm |
20:14.13 | paulc | gr0mit: wasn't thinking Sipura (although it works great for my hard wired door entry system, bringing the calls to my Polycom and/or cell) |
20:14.33 | gr0mit | there is a Sangoma USB analogue interface |
20:14.37 | moldy | [TK]D-Fender: i.e. (in my case), an ISDN interface card? |
20:14.41 | gr0mit | which I have not used |
20:14.49 | [TK]D-Fender | moldy: indeed |
20:14.50 | gr0mit | moldy, even better ;-) |
20:14.53 | paulc | USB makes me think Astribank too? not sure if they're any good, never used 'em |
20:14.53 | Amorsen | jo8330: I have no idea what the correct setting for hardware echo cancellation it... I'm trying to find out myself, since I just started using a card like that yesterday |
20:15.15 | Amorsen | And it looks like it's using software echo cancellation, possibly on top of the hardware one, which surely can't be good |
20:15.26 | jo8330 | Amorsen: from the TE122 user guide, it seems to suggest echocancel=1024 should be set. |
20:15.30 | gr0mit | moldy, i used a Colgone chipsed BRI card for several years |
20:15.33 | jo8330 | i don't have software EC configured in /etc/dahdi/system.conf |
20:15.37 | jo8330 | so it should use hardware. |
20:15.45 | jo8330 | but i get crappier results :( |
20:15.48 | gr0mit | cost me £15 and I had 3 of tehm in my server |
20:16.02 | jo8330 | so I think i'l ljust leave it disabled for now, and try to give Digium call tomorrow |
20:16.18 | moldy | ok, thanks. assuming i have a set of 7 ISDN phones: can i buy an 8-port isdn card, plug the phones into it, and use the 8th port for connection to the external phone line? |
20:16.26 | jo8330 | [TK]D-Fender: FYI, i upgraded from 1.6.2.0 to 1.6.2.2 and the .wav RECORD issue is fixed (although i saw no mention of that in teh changelog) |
20:16.30 | gr0mit | moldy, yes you can |
20:16.32 | jo8330 | so i won't open a bug report. |
20:16.46 | moldy | gr0mit: ah, great. thank you all for the information. |
20:16.52 | gr0mit | but an 8-port card will cost you more than 8 x new SIP phones |
20:17.01 | [TK]D-Fender | moldy: * isn't so great in dealing with IDSN phones, and getting a card(s) to do that would probably start looking messy and get expensive. |
20:17.22 | rue_mohr | gee whiz I have all these great parts I could put into this new asterisk machine that would gain me NOTHING! |
20:17.23 | moldy | ah, i see |
20:17.24 | [TK]D-Fender | moldy: It will likely be most cost effective/flexible/cleaner to simply replace themw ith IP Phones |
20:17.28 | Amorsen | jo8330: You only set echo cancellation in chan_dahdi.conf, but leave it out entirely from system.conf? |
20:17.31 | russellb | it should work with chan_misdn, and should work with chan_dahdi by 1.8 |
20:17.32 | Amorsen | Maybe I should try that |
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20:17.44 | gr0mit | nods at [TK]D-Fender |
20:17.47 | moldy | [TK]D-Fender: asterisk does the ip / isdn "translation" in that case? |
20:17.47 | Amorsen | Hey Olle |
20:18.03 | [TK]D-Fender | moldy: * translates each side to the other. |
20:18.03 | jo8330 | Amorsen: yes that's right. |
20:18.10 | gr0mit | moldy, exactly correct |
20:18.20 | [TK]D-Fender | moldy: You can use a ITSP with analog phones and BRI lines. |
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20:18.31 | jo8330 | Is anyone using the hardware EC module with a Digium T1 card? |
20:18.43 | [TK]D-Fender | moldy: * is just a toolkit that sits in the middle and processes calls between them |
20:19.27 | moldy | hm, ok. to connect the voip phones to asterisk, what kind of physical connection do i need? |
20:19.38 | gr0mit | ethernet, moldy |
20:20.02 | gr0mit | voip phones are IP so just connect you your LAN |
20:20.05 | moldy | that could end up being a problem :( |
20:20.13 | gr0mit | moldy, why? |
20:20.35 | moldy | gr0mit: the wiring here was done quite "unprofessionally" |
20:20.51 | moldy | gr0mit: in some rooms, i only have 2 wires of an 8-wire CAT cable |
20:20.53 | gr0mit | welcome to the world of telecoms! |
20:21.03 | moldy | for ethernet, i need at least 4, right? |
20:21.10 | paulc | slaps forehead - that's awful! |
20:21.12 | gr0mit | you need 2 pairs |
20:21.17 | moldy | yeah, ok |
20:21.36 | gr0mit | moldy, anyone would think BT had done it! |
20:21.59 | gr0mit | but isdn BRI also needs 2 pairs |
20:22.14 | gr0mit | so you are no worse off |
20:22.29 | Zhad | #when I'm watching my TV and the band comes on ......... |
20:22.45 | Amorsen | You can do HomePNA on 2 wires |
20:22.53 | moldy | the guys here basically used one 4-pair cat cable to connect 3 rooms: lead all 4 pairs to the first room, connect 1 pair there, lead the other pairs to the 2nd room, connect 1 pair there, lead the remaining pairs from there to the 3rd room |
20:23.02 | Amorsen | I'd recommend keeping all non-phones off the network then |
20:23.23 | gr0mit | moldy, oh dear |
20:23.27 | raden_work | [TK]D-Fender, running 2 asterisk servers on my phones one is set as primary and one as backup... is it possible to keep the voicemails and everything synced between the 2 servers |
20:24.05 | raden_work | company 1 might have server A as primary and server B as backup and company 2 might have Server B as primary and Server A as backup |
20:24.17 | raden_work | Trying to make sure if a server fails all keeps running |
20:24.22 | moldy | gr0mit: yeah, that was my reaction, too. the guy i talked to about this was speaking about a bus architecture... no idea, i'm not a phone guy :) |
20:25.22 | moldy | well, i do have a separate ethernet cable in each room, but to use them, i figure i would also need to buy a switch for every room... |
20:25.28 | thehar | [TK]D-Fender: ty sir |
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20:25.47 | Erestar | Can anyone suggest a good text2speech program for linux? |
20:26.08 | raden_work | festival ? |
20:26.09 | rue_mohr | ok now, which is the T1 and which is the network line |
20:26.16 | paulc | Eresar: cepstral? |
20:26.47 | [TK]D-Fender | thehar: You're welcome. |
20:27.16 | Erestar | I'm messing with festival now. Haven't heard of cepstral |
20:27.18 | Erestar | Thanks :0 |
20:27.19 | AeroCloud | [TK]D-Fender: On the T with dial.. is there a way to prevent from #11 or #11111 etc.. and only limit the first one.. since # is the transfer initiator |
20:27.51 | moldy | so, how much would a cheap voip phone cost? |
20:28.10 | raden_work | [TK]D-Fender, is what I want todo possible ? |
20:28.57 | Amorsen | raden_work: Voicemail is not too difficult, that's just an rsync or a shared file system |
20:29.15 | Amorsen | Asterisk database is a bit more difficult... |
20:29.54 | raden_work | hmmmm |
20:30.02 | raden_work | cant i run 2 databases ???? |
20:30.12 | Amorsen | However if you use two accounts on each phone, it could get a bit annoying to receive the voicemail message from both of them |
20:30.34 | raden_work | Amorsen, they would be registered to one server or the other |
20:30.48 | raden_work | primary server goes down there phone re registers to backup server |
20:30.55 | Amorsen | raden_work: Sure you can, it just means you can't really store anything useful in the Asterisk database |
20:31.10 | raden_work | there anyway to sync databases ? |
20:31.12 | Amorsen | raden_work: When the primary server comes back, how do you switch back? |
20:31.18 | raden_work | or make whatever happens to one happen to both ? |
20:31.31 | raden_work | Amorsen, thats a darn good question too :( |
20:31.34 | raden_work | this is a mess :( |
20:31.38 | Amorsen | Yes you can make up whichever sync system you prefer |
20:31.55 | p3nguin | moldy: Many phones have a switch built in. |
20:31.56 | Amorsen | Or ignore Asterisk database and use an external database |
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20:32.02 | raden_work | could have the servers reset everymorning at like 4 am |
20:32.06 | raden_work | or something weird |
20:32.17 | raden_work | i dont know if thats the best idea either though |
20:32.33 | Amorsen | raden_work: If phones get rebooted they'll switch to the primary server, and then they can't call the phones on the secondary server |
20:32.40 | moldy | p3nguin: hm, that's good. |
20:32.42 | p3nguin | moldy: So if you have phones with an extra switch port, you've just eliminated the need for a switch in each room. |
20:32.47 | Amorsen | Unless you use DUNDI |
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20:33.31 | raden_work | Amorsen, oh yeah i need to find a way to keep the servers linked to sooo we dont have to pay per min through network |
20:33.34 | raden_work | oh boy |
20:34.00 | Amorsen | raden_work: Yes, you need to keep track of which phone is at which server, and communicate it to the other one. DUNDI is the solution there. |
20:34.20 | Amorsen | Every problem can be solved, but the solution gets awfully complex |
20:34.41 | moldy | how would i connect wireless phones to an asterisk box? i just connect the phone's base station to the ip network? |
20:35.24 | Amorsen | moldy: You'd need a SIP base station... |
20:36.01 | raden_work | Amorsen, oh boy |
20:36.02 | Amorsen | Polycom (old Kirk) SIP DECT gateways are great |
20:36.15 | moldy | Amorsen: hmmm :) |
20:36.17 | raden_work | well as long as it is connected to one server or another we know the phone is connected |
20:36.37 | raden_work | the real trick is keeping the asterisk boxes connected |
20:36.43 | Amorsen | Siemens SIP DECT phone are cheap |
20:36.49 | raden_work | together in sync and able to communicate with one another |
20:36.52 | raden_work | getting a headache |
20:37.01 | p3nguin | moldy: You can use regular anolog cordless phones and ATAs or you can use SIP cordless phones. |
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20:38.04 | p3nguin | But if you're going to spend $35 on an ATA and $35 on a cordless phone, you might as well spend the $70 on a SIP cordless phone. |
20:38.40 | moldy | p3nguin: and a SIP cordless phone connects to asterisk via a "sip base station"? |
20:39.16 | Amorsen | moldy: A SIP cordless phone either comes with a "SIP base station" or it's a WiFi phone (don't go there!) |
20:39.21 | p3nguin | moldy: A SIP cordless phone is a basically a normal cordless phone with a SIP/Ethernet base. |
20:39.34 | moldy | ok. |
20:40.18 | shmaltz | helo everyone |
20:40.47 | moldy | so i could get 1 sip base station and 6 sip cordless phones and connect the base station to an asterisk box? |
20:40.51 | shmaltz | anyone here watched dear john? |
20:40.55 | Amorsen | ehlo schmaltz |
20:41.22 | shmaltz | moldy, just make sure that it wills support multiple channels, otherwise only one cordless phone will able able to work |
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20:41.37 | shmaltz | Amorsen, 250, Go ahead make my day punk |
20:41.41 | moldy | shmaltz: ok. thanks. |
20:41.53 | Amorsen | moldy: Cheap sip base stations can't handle 6 simultaneous calls, and possibly not even 6 connected phones |
20:42.24 | p3nguin | If you get cheap phones, get the entire thing rather than getting one base station and a bunch of handsets. |
20:43.16 | moldy | ok, so the alternative is to get 6 phones with 6 base stations (possibly with included switches) and put a base station into each room and connect it to the existing ethernet |
20:43.24 | p3nguin | I think my ATS can handle four handsets, but I probably would never use that mant on it. It's pretty cheap quality. |
20:43.33 | shmaltz | moldy, what exactly you trying to do? |
20:43.47 | p3nguin | Do you really need six cordless phones? |
20:44.00 | moldy | p3nguin: at least, it would be ideal |
20:44.06 | rue_mohr | and so begine the great debugging excersize |
20:44.35 | moldy | shmaltz: trying to get decent telephony infrastructure for my apartment-sharing community |
20:44.48 | shmaltz | moldy, where does cordless come in? |
20:45.27 | moldy | shmaltz: we walk around alot :) and, for example, i do not hear a phone in my room when i am in the kitchen or living room |
20:46.00 | moldy | i guess we could get buy with 6 stationary phones and just 1 or 2 cordless phones |
20:46.03 | moldy | get by |
20:46.25 | shmaltz | moldy, is this for management? or just one apartment? |
20:46.58 | moldy | shmaltz: sorry, what do you mean by "for management"? |
20:46.58 | shmaltz | moldy, how many apartments? or just management? |
20:47.11 | Amorsen | moldy: If you have relatively modern cell phones, you could try SIP clients on those. It will suck, but it's hard to beat free. |
20:47.14 | shmaltz | moldy, forget it, how many apartments? |
20:47.28 | moldy | shmaltz: our living situation is a bit unusual maybe :) |
20:47.40 | moldy | shmaltz: 6 rooms spread over 2 floors |
20:47.49 | shmaltz | moldy>shmaltz: trying to get decent telephony infrastructure for my apartment-sharing community |
20:48.05 | shmaltz | moldy, you looking for a cordless solution for many apartments? or just one apartment? |
20:48.12 | moldy | shmaltz: oh. maybe aparment-sharing community was the wrong term (i had to look it up) |
20:48.33 | moldy | screw those online dictionaries :p |
20:48.42 | shmaltz | moldy, then what are you trying to do? |
20:48.52 | moldy | shmaltz: think of a 6-person office :) |
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20:49.24 | shmaltz | moldy, so everyone just needs a cordless phone? |
20:49.36 | rue_mohr | ??? why do I have a red alarm on ONE end of the T1?!?! |
20:49.40 | shmaltz | moldy, why not an astra 480ict for each dek? |
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20:49.51 | shmaltz | rue_mohr, because it's having trouble |
20:49.58 | shmaltz | rue_mohr, is the T1 working? |
20:50.13 | rue_mohr | T100P <--> Channelbank |
20:50.18 | rue_mohr | channelbank is in red alarm |
20:50.21 | rue_mohr | !? |
20:50.32 | shmaltz | rue_mohr what type of channel bank? |
20:50.44 | shmaltz | rue_mohr, has it ever worked? |
20:50.47 | moldy | shmaltz: i guess something like that would be ideal. it looks expensive, though :) |
20:50.47 | rue_mohr | newbridge mainstreet 2634 |
20:51.02 | rue_mohr | its a software thing, it was working before the crash |
20:51.31 | shmaltz | rue_mohr, what version of asterisk you running? |
20:51.49 | p3nguin | moldy: Look for the Siemens Gigaset products. |
20:51.52 | rue_mohr | hold on, I'll work back, see what dahdi is doing |
20:53.02 | moldy | p3nguin: yeah. i guess i will just get 1 or 2 of those and start playing around :) |
20:53.31 | Amorsen | I still can't find a way to see whether Asterisk uses the hardware echo canceller |
20:53.36 | p3nguin | With the Gigasets, you can have one base station and several handsets with their own charging bases. |
20:53.39 | rue_mohr | Asterisk 1.6.0.22 fyi |
20:54.37 | moldy | p3nguin: oh, that would be great. |
20:55.04 | shmaltz | amorsen, what hardware echo can do you have? |
20:55.16 | shmaltz | rue_mohr, is it workignyet? |
20:55.22 | rue_mohr | no |
20:55.43 | rue_mohr | I cant remember if there shoudl be a red alarm till astersik starts |
20:55.52 | rue_mohr | I think its green without asterisk running |
20:55.54 | rue_mohr | ?? |
20:56.02 | shmaltz | rue_mohr, of course there should be red till it's starts |
20:56.09 | rue_mohr | oh |
20:56.16 | rue_mohr | k |
20:56.16 | shmaltz | since the uppler layer protocols don't load till asterisk loads |
20:56.16 | Amorsen | shmaltz: VPMOCT128 on TE420 |
20:56.25 | rue_mohr | in that case I think the problem just clicked :) |
20:56.35 | shmaltz | Amorsen, I believe that dmesg should tell you if it found it or not |
20:56.49 | rue_mohr | confgures the dahdi card in the asterisk side |
20:57.07 | Amorsen | shmaltz: It doesn't really indicate it either way |
20:57.12 | rue_mohr | where is it, I know its here somewhere |
20:57.14 | rue_mohr | cahnnels |
20:57.37 | shmaltz | Amorsen, can you please clear your dmesg unload dahdi drivers load them again, run dmesg and pb it? |
20:57.41 | rue_mohr | help jog my memory |
20:57.44 | p3nguin | moldy: http://gigaset.com/shc/0,1935,hq_en_0_160891_rArNrNrNrN,00.html |
20:57.48 | rue_mohr | chan_dahdi |
20:57.50 | rue_mohr | thankyou! |
20:58.11 | rue_mohr | which was called... |
20:58.11 | shmaltz | rue_mohr, /etc/asterisk/zaptel.conf or whatever it's called now |
20:58.17 | rue_mohr | hahaa |
20:58.21 | shmaltz | still uses asterisk 1.2 |
20:58.22 | rue_mohr | ;) |
20:58.40 | Amorsen | It says "Octasic optimized!". Is that a hint? |
20:59.18 | rue_mohr | now I dont know if zaptel.conf and chan_dahdi.conf are the same... |
20:59.31 | shmaltz | Amorsen, yep, you can confirm that by disableing hw echo can in the source, recomplie then load em again and see that it doesn't display it, or just remove the chip from the card and load it |
20:59.40 | Amorsen | http://pastebin.org/87718 |
20:59.42 | shmaltz | rue_mohr, you don't |
20:59.49 | moldy | p3nguin: yep, looks nice :) |
21:00.02 | p3nguin | moldy: It looks like the Gigaset A580 IP is about $70 for the base and one handset. I'm looking for extra handsets now. |
21:01.10 | rue_mohr | shmaltz, you shoudl put togethor a new machine to play with, before you have to |
21:01.11 | Amorsen | I think it should have reported a VPM450 though |
21:01.16 | p3nguin | moldy: Gigaset A58H handsets seem to be about $40 each. |
21:02.02 | moldy | p3nguin: yeah, that looks great |
21:02.13 | p3nguin | moldy: So you're looking about around $270 for a six handset configuration. |
21:02.32 | moldy | p3nguin: i'm thinking about maybe getting 2 base stations and 6 phones |
21:02.45 | p3nguin | What's the reason for that? |
21:03.18 | moldy | p3nguin: i might want more than 2 simultaneous voip calls |
21:03.22 | rue_mohr | yay! its all half assed working! |
21:03.25 | rue_mohr | (this is progress) |
21:03.32 | shmaltz | Amorsen, I'm not sure, you can always contact Digium or the list and I'm sure you'll get better help |
21:03.39 | p3nguin | moldy: You can't have 6 calls through a single base unit? |
21:03.52 | moldy | p3nguin: according to their website, 2 voip and 1 landline call |
21:03.54 | p3nguin | - Multiline for up to 6 handsets, 6 VoIP/SIP numbers (multi-provider capable), 3 calls simultaneously (2 VoIP and 1 fixed line) |
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21:04.06 | shmaltz | moldy, how big of an area has to be covered by this setup? |
21:04.24 | p3nguin | Okay, so add an additional $30 for a second base. |
21:04.58 | moldy | shmaltz: hmm, i'm bad at estimating areas. a medium-sized building. |
21:05.21 | rue_mohr | erm |
21:05.27 | rue_mohr | help em understand this error message |
21:05.53 | rue_mohr | No application 'Dial,DAHDI/7' for extension (house, 9, 1) <-- it cant find the dial app or its not a valid extension? |
21:06.00 | moldy | p3nguin, shmaltz: those gigasets look pretty interesting... i think that's the route i will take. thank you :) |
21:06.01 | rue_mohr | oh wait, did the format achnge? |
21:06.09 | rue_mohr | dial(dahdi/7) ? |
21:06.26 | shmaltz | moldy, the pantagon is by all means the a large building with about 6.5 million sqare feet, does 1 million square feet mean a midium sized building? |
21:06.32 | p3nguin | moldy: There are other models, too. |
21:06.55 | moldy | shmaltz: no, much smaller |
21:08.28 | shmaltz | moldy, how big of an area? |
21:08.52 | tzafrir_laptop | rue_mohr, asterisk 1.4? |
21:08.57 | rue_mohr | no 1.6 |
21:09.20 | rue_mohr | sweeet |
21:09.23 | rue_mohr | dial( |
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21:09.37 | tzafrir_laptop | For some reason, it considers ',DAHDI/7' at part of the name of the app |
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21:09.42 | tzafrir_laptop | Is this in your dialplan? |
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21:10.04 | moldy | shmaltz: maybe 600m²? whis is important? |
21:11.09 | p3nguin | moldy: A more expensive model (with other features) is the Gigaset C475 IP. |
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21:11.22 | moldy | p3nguin: yeah, i saw it on their website |
21:11.25 | jmcdowell | Hola all |
21:11.56 | shmaltz | moldy, that means that any cordless will have range, then just chose whatever |
21:12.03 | shmaltz | helo jmcdowell |
21:12.22 | jmcdowell | anyone have any suggestions on an asterisk solution that uses 1.6.2.2 or greater? |
21:12.40 | jmcdowell | I would like to have a web interface, but it's not needed. |
21:13.03 | jmcdowell | I am thinking about using ubuntu |
21:13.09 | shmaltz | jmcdowell, to do what? |
21:13.27 | jmcdowell | <PROTECTED> |
21:13.36 | jmcdowell | and learn a-lot more about asterisk as a whole while I do it. |
21:13.41 | shmaltz | jmcdowell, you mean PBX? |
21:13.47 | jmcdowell | correct |
21:14.06 | jmcdowell | I have gotten asterisk now to function with polycoms, I figure I am ready to move on to the next step. |
21:14.07 | shmaltz | jmcdowell, and you are looking for something out of the box? |
21:14.26 | shmaltz | jmcdowell, you don't want to compile and configure vanilla asterisk from source? |
21:14.28 | jmcdowell | Preferred, but again, no it doesn't have to be. |
21:14.50 | jmcdowell | I can if I need to, and if I do that, it will be ubuntu server or gentoo |
21:15.09 | jmcdowell | But that's why I am asking here |
21:15.18 | shmaltz | jmcdowell, thats a religious question |
21:15.20 | jmcdowell | is there a distro that gets into the nitty gritty with documentation? |
21:15.26 | jmcdowell | Yeah I have heard that before. |
21:15.29 | jmcdowell | About asterisk |
21:15.36 | shmaltz | no, it's about linux |
21:15.47 | shmaltz | what distro to use is a religious question |
21:15.52 | jmcdowell | So, ubuntu it is, because I can package it up when I am done for ease of use for others. |
21:15.55 | shmaltz | ~google what distro asterisk |
21:16.01 | jmcdowell | Yeah, I am across board on distros. |
21:16.16 | shmaltz | hey bot stopped googling? since when? |
21:16.21 | shmaltz | ~hey you there? |
21:16.22 | infobot | Of course I am! |
21:16.28 | shmaltz | ~google me something |
21:16.33 | Amorsen | Google is so last year |
21:16.41 | jmcdowell | Once you master or near master gentoo stage 1 everything becomes reletive. |
21:16.45 | shmaltz | wtf, what happned to the bot? |
21:16.52 | jmcdowell | ~ kill yourself |
21:16.53 | infobot | ACTION shoots a excited anti-neutron gun at yourself |
21:16.56 | p3nguin | infobot: hello |
21:16.57 | infobot | Howdy Bub |
21:17.05 | shmaltz | ~google |
21:17.06 | infobot | i guess google is http://lmgtfy.com/?q=google |
21:17.13 | shmaltz | ~google day |
21:17.24 | shmaltz | ~go to hell |
21:17.25 | infobot | it has been said that go to hell is a song |
21:17.31 | jmcdowell | ~google.com test |
21:17.33 | shmaltz | ~fuc* you |
21:17.45 | jmcdowell | ~kick me |
21:17.46 | infobot | ACTION kicks jmcdowell |
21:17.56 | shmaltz | ~wiki |
21:17.59 | jmcdowell | hostile lil thing |
21:18.11 | jmcdowell | what about callweaver ? |
21:18.15 | jmcdowell | That distro seems dead |
21:18.22 | jmcdowell | at a glace that is. |
21:18.26 | jmcdowell | glance |
21:18.32 | shmaltz | jmcdowell, callweaver is not a distro |
21:18.36 | shmaltz | gentoo is |
21:18.44 | jmcdowell | Right right |
21:18.56 | jmcdowell | package what ever, it still seems dead at a glace |
21:18.57 | shmaltz | ~you ok? |
21:18.59 | jmcdowell | glance |
21:20.11 | jmcdowell | ~reboot |
21:20.12 | infobot | Not on your life cowboy :(, or are you using Window$? |
21:20.13 | shmaltz | ~helo |
21:20.13 | infobot | hmm... helo is the first command issued during smtp |
21:20.16 | shmaltz | yes smtp |
21:20.18 | jmcdowell | lol |
21:20.19 | shmaltz | cool |
21:20.23 | shmaltz | ~smtp |
21:20.24 | infobot | methinks smtp is simple mail transport protocol. rfc2821 |
21:20.26 | shmaltz | ~time |
21:20.27 | infobot | rumour has it, time is 1 dimensional, or everlasting, an illusion, or 2010.02.07 21:20:27 GMT |
21:22.07 | jmcdowell | ~build asterisk |
21:22.25 | shmaltz | ~sleep |
21:22.26 | infobot | [sleep] overrated, and a poor substitute for caffeine. |
21:22.31 | jmcdowell | lol |
21:22.36 | jmcdowell | ~input |
21:22.37 | infobot | hmm... input is Anything entered into a computer or system. This includes keystrokes, mouse movement, and talking into a microphone. |
21:22.46 | jmcdowell | ~need input |
21:22.53 | p3nguin | Maybe you could do this in PM instead of here. |
21:23.01 | ChannelZ | Really? Are you going to sit here all day and ask every word you can think of? |
21:23.03 | shmaltz | ~tell jmcdowell to stop playing |
21:23.13 | jmcdowell | lol |
21:24.44 | jmcdowell | grumpy grumpy |
21:24.55 | jmcdowell | ~kill p3nguin |
21:24.56 | infobot | ACTION shoots a super-inverse anti-neutron gun at p3nguin |
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21:48.34 | raden_work | I love how easy asterisk is to install on suse |
21:48.42 | raden_work | dependencies this and dependencies that |
21:49.06 | raden_work | is there any way i could contribute to asterisk to make installs easier since i know every lil bug inside and out ? |
21:50.14 | ChannelZ | I haven't been following along too closely but it sounds more like your issues with building asterisk were _your_ issues |
21:51.10 | raden_work | ChannelZ, always this way on linux the whopping 7 times ive done it on different machines |
21:52.00 | ChannelZ | Well conversely I've built half a dozen different versions of asterisk dozens of times with no issue |
21:52.20 | raden_work | on opensuse ? |
21:52.22 | ChannelZ | Perhaps you could write a dependency guide, I'm not sure I've seen one |
21:52.32 | raden_work | that would be a good idea |
21:52.45 | ChannelZ | No I'm running Ubuntu but I don't see how it makes much difference |
21:52.54 | ChannelZ | If you're missing a compiler, you're missing a compiler... etc |
21:53.20 | niekniek | today i learned: |
21:53.27 | raden_work | yeah it just most newbs freak out i should make a idiots guide to asterisk install with pictures LOL |
21:53.34 | ChannelZ | 'make menuconfig' does show some dependency info but it's usually not very clear |
21:53.34 | niekniek | apt-get build-dep asterisk |
21:53.38 | raden_work | ChannelZ, ubuntu server very smooth install |
21:53.44 | raden_work | have it running in a VM :-) |
21:54.10 | raden_work | i SO need a quad core ;( |
21:54.32 | niekniek | it's download asterisk, untar + unzip, do the apt-get build-dep asterisk, make, make install |
21:54.37 | niekniek | works fine :) |
21:54.58 | ChannelZ | I think that is one thing that is lacking, is a clear setup guide. The asterisk book is OK but some things are outdated and it doesn't always explain why you're doing something. |
21:55.03 | niekniek | ofc you can do more stuff, but with prebuild packages u can't |
21:55.11 | niekniek | so it's a good compare :) |
21:55.53 | niekniek | I think a make simple-samples should be included |
21:55.59 | raden_work | ok i have ncurses installed 'libncurses5' providing 'ncurses' is already installed. |
21:56.00 | raden_work | Resolving package dependencies... |
21:56.08 | raden_work | configure: error: *** termcap support not found (on modern systems, this typically means the ncurses development package is missing) |
21:56.20 | niekniek | raden_work: apt-get build-dep asterisk |
21:56.22 | raden_work | I cannot figure out how i got around this before :( |
21:56.29 | raden_work | niekie, im on opensuse |
21:56.39 | raden_work | niekniek, im on opensuse |
21:57.02 | niekniek | my girlfriend can call me niekie, dunno about u. ;) |
21:57.09 | ChannelZ | Besides actually building * one document that should come with it is a "birds-eye view" of config and some FAQ stuff.. for instance I see right here multiple times a week people assuming a SIP device and an Extension are the same thing |
21:57.18 | niekniek | u need ncurses-dev probably |
21:57.24 | ChannelZ | Which * GUIs like freepbx are probably as much to blame for this |
21:57.24 | niekniek | if that's on opensuse |
21:58.10 | niekniek | yeah |
21:58.17 | niekniek | you know what i think is the problem |
21:58.26 | niekniek | all asterisk sites are not good |
21:58.35 | niekniek | maybe it'll become something in the coming years |
21:58.47 | niekniek | but until astricon 2009 they were not good |
21:59.12 | niekniek | it's crazy that voip-info.org for a lot of years contained better info then the asterisk site itself |
22:00.16 | niekniek | and voip-info.org is not like a book, it's like a huge amount of info... so that's no good either |
22:02.29 | raden_work | ChannelZ, Im going to work on a document 3-5 pages in PDF for asterisk install and simple setup with SIP device and explain things in elementary term the company is making me make a book on how to setup all this step by step anyway |
22:02.58 | niekniek | well sounds good, will it be on the internet? |
22:03.13 | raden_work | yeah |
22:03.20 | raden_work | on my site in a few weeks |
22:03.37 | raden_work | i need to register a domain again and put up all my howtos |
22:04.00 | niekniek | are there places for this stuff on the asterisk site? |
22:04.10 | raden_work | i dunno |
22:04.26 | raden_work | I think if we all worked together we could make a nice 5-10 page manual :) |
22:04.30 | raden_work | save people alot of time :) |
22:04.37 | raden_work | save alot of frusteration in the channel :) |
22:04.43 | raden_work | WOOHOOO |
22:04.52 | raden_work | finally a build |
22:05.50 | niekniek | sure |
22:06.03 | niekniek | if somebody could put up a wiki somewhere |
22:06.04 | raden_work | people get overwhelmed by big books |
22:06.24 | niekniek | guidelines: 2 phones calling eachother, max 5 pages |
22:06.30 | raden_work | I think a PDF to follow would be best just me thought |
22:06.30 | niekniek | like that? |
22:06.35 | raden_work | yeah :) |
22:06.45 | raden_work | and a link to your sip provider |
22:06.47 | raden_work | lol |
22:06.57 | niekniek | and a database backend ;) |
22:07.01 | raden_work | nothing to complicated the basics to get a person up and running |
22:07.13 | raden_work | and explain things |
22:07.18 | niekniek | yeah |
22:07.34 | niekniek | btw good guide on sip: http://www.sipdev.org/wiki/index.php/A_newcomer's_guide_to_SIP |
22:07.54 | niekniek | just when you think you start to dig sip you discover you don't |
22:08.01 | niekniek | so i'm reading this... |
22:08.30 | raden_work | TTSSUSA-1000:/home/tss/SOURCE/asterisk-1.6.0.22 # make menuselect |
22:08.30 | raden_work | make: Warning: File `Makefile' has modification time 3e+06 s in the future |
22:08.31 | raden_work | **** |
22:08.31 | raden_work | **** The configure script must be executed before running 'make'. |
22:08.31 | raden_work | **** Please run "./configure". |
22:08.31 | raden_work | **** |
22:08.37 | raden_work | make: *** [makeopts] Error 1 |
22:09.00 | raden_work | i reran ./configure 2x |
22:10.31 | niekniek | so the date on your pc is correct right? :) |
22:11.50 | raden_work | it fell back was just looking at that WTF bios battery probally dead |
22:12.04 | niekniek | lol :) |
22:12.32 | raden_work | how do i setup so reads nts from console ? |
22:12.35 | niekniek | or suse is weird stuff with the hardware clock |
22:12.40 | niekniek | ntp? |
22:12.43 | raden_work | that true |
22:12.50 | raden_work | yeah i want it to read ntp |
22:12.57 | niekniek | ntp doesn't work? |
22:12.58 | niekniek | ntpdate |
22:14.05 | raden_work | now it working |
22:15.49 | raden_work | ok ntp working but no time update |
22:17.11 | niekniek | lol |
22:17.22 | niekniek | what do u mean no time update/ |
22:17.32 | niekniek | it says it did it but it didn't? |
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22:27.30 | naif | hi all, how to create a cli matching with a regexp? now i have exten => _X.,n,While($[${CLI}='333123451']) but would like to match 333***** |
22:27.37 | naif | with a prefix based approach |
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22:31.19 | ChannelZ | core show function REGEX |
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22:41.37 | raden_work | ok how do i make it sooo my clock updates off ntp ? |
22:42.07 | Tamo | ntpdate us.pool.ntp.org |
22:42.21 | raden_work | ntpdate is correct |
22:42.23 | raden_work | date is wrong |
22:42.47 | raden_work | I got it ran through yast |
22:42.59 | raden_work | was set to read hardware clock only |
22:43.18 | niekvlessert | see hwclock stuff |
22:43.23 | niekvlessert | can be annoying :( |
22:43.39 | niekvlessert | go opensuse! ;) |
22:44.15 | raden_work | this is turned into the longest asterisk install ive ever done |
22:50.20 | raden_work | wow 9 dependencie issues so far |
22:50.25 | raden_work | i can run make now yeah ! |
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22:57.11 | raden_work | 1.5 GB of dual channel ram per asterisk server enough ram ??? on P4 2.8 w/ hyperthreading |
22:58.14 | ChannelZ | That's a completely arbitrary question |
22:58.27 | etfonhomey | How many concurrent calls? What type? What codec(s)? etc. |
22:58.30 | raden_work | umm how do i exit CLI ??? exit no work |
22:59.00 | raden_work | 100 concurrent calls in 50% g.711 50% g.729 and only trascode is voicemail |
22:59.03 | ChannelZ | quit |
22:59.11 | raden_work | that not work either |
22:59.19 | Erestar | Ctrl + C ? |
22:59.28 | ChannelZ | this is an asterisk console? |
22:59.47 | raden_work | *CLI> core show version |
22:59.48 | raden_work | Asterisk 1.6.0.22 built by root @ TTSSUSA-1000 on a i686 running Linux on 2010-02-07 22:45:40 UTC |
22:59.48 | raden_work | *CLI> |
22:59.52 | Erestar | Is there a way to change where asterisk looks for sound files? |
23:00.00 | raden_work | ChannelZ, i cant get out |
23:00.02 | ChannelZ | is it the root process or did you connect to a background process with asterisk -r ? |
23:00.06 | raden_work | 1.6.0.10 its exit |
23:00.19 | raden_work | oh shit |
23:01.00 | raden_work | wtf |
23:01.08 | raden_work | why is rc_asterisk not in services ? |
23:01.23 | raden_work | how do i start asterisk ? |
23:01.32 | ChannelZ | "asterisk" |
23:03.13 | ChannelZ | you might need/want to run 'make config' to install startup scripts |
23:03.14 | raden_work | what the best way to set it up so it starts everytime i boot |
23:04.06 | raden_work | bueatiful :) |
23:04.37 | moldy | raden_work: most distributions have /etc/rc.conf |
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23:04.57 | raden_work | moldy, well gotta love suse it has about 3 different ways todo things :( |
23:05.17 | moldy | raden_work: did you install asterisk "manually" or using the suse package manager? |
23:05.39 | raden_work | moldy, manually |
23:05.51 | raden_work | opensuse asterisk RPM = LMFAO |
23:05.54 | moldy | raden_work: /etc/rc.conf is probably the simplest way, then |
23:06.02 | raden_work | i have better things todo than argue with my system |
23:06.06 | raden_work | make config did it all :) |
23:06.08 | raden_work | all good : ) |
23:06.13 | moldy | raden_work: alternatively, you can write your own init script and put it in /etc/init.d |
23:06.25 | moldy | raden_work: i don't know suse, but i'm pretty confident this should work on suse |
23:07.38 | ManxPower-work | not menuconfig? |
23:07.55 | ManxPower-work | Oh, well I guess I need to scroll to the end of the scrollback butter. |
23:07.59 | ManxPower-work | and the buFFer too. |
23:08.02 | raden_work | lol |
23:08.40 | ChannelZ | I'd like some scrollback butter |
23:08.46 | ManxPower-work | It's a good idea to make config for both asterisk and zaptel/dahdi when you upgrade your versions. |
23:09.10 | *** part/#asterisk niekvlessert (~niek@5ED25657.cable.ziggo.nl) |
23:09.59 | ManxPower-work | there have been changes to those config files that caused problems if you used the old init scripts with the new software (I've personally experienced this with zaptel/dahdi init scripts. |
23:10.24 | raden_work | ok my usb stick not showing up in /proc/partitions any ideas ? |
23:10.29 | raden_work | the light flashing on the drive |
23:10.34 | raden_work | it just worked in the other server |
23:11.02 | Chainsaw | raden_work: Check dmesg for clues. |
23:12.00 | p3nguin | raden_work: If you don't have the init script, you can always copy it right out of the sources: cp $astsource/contrib/init.d/rc.suse.asterisk /etc/init.d/asterisk |
23:12.12 | raden_work | [10122.905266] usb 1-5: USB disconnect, address 4 |
23:12.32 | raden_work | p3nguin, thanks make config made it, so its all good : 0 |
23:12.59 | raden_work | wtf |
23:13.24 | raden_work | ok 2 identical machines 2 indentical os's and for some reason one cannot seem to pickup my usb stick |
23:14.12 | raden_work | [ 4281.244173] usb-storage: device found at 4 |
23:14.12 | raden_work | [ 4281.244178] usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning |
23:14.12 | raden_work | [ 4282.250431] usb-storage: device scan complete |
23:14.12 | raden_work | [10122.905266] usb 1-5: USB disconnect, address 4 |
23:14.14 | raden_work | any ideas ? |
23:15.04 | ChannelZ | Flakey port? |
23:15.15 | raden_work | tried 3 different ones |
23:15.20 | raden_work | light on the stick is coming on |
23:16.07 | [TK]D-Fender | raden_work: same key, 3 ports, 1 PC? |
23:16.41 | p3nguin | Plug it into the other computer again and make sure it still works there. |
23:16.43 | raden_work | [TK]D-Fender, correct, usb worked on other identical machine fine.... and im using a USB keyboard and mouse on machine it failig on |
23:16.48 | raden_work | p3nguin, ok |
23:17.23 | ChannelZ | Is it formatted as something crazy? |
23:17.45 | p3nguin | File system won't prevent the kernel from recognizing the device. |
23:18.06 | raden_work | ok wtf |
23:18.08 | ChannelZ | It looks like it is seeing it but turning around and disconnecting it. |
23:18.20 | Chainsaw | Sounds to me like you don't have USB mass storage support. |
23:18.21 | *** join/#asterisk florz (nobody@2001:1a50:503c::1) |
23:18.33 | Chainsaw | Don't overthink it. It has nothing to do with file systems or bad ports. It tells you when it cuts power to a bad port. |
23:18.56 | ChannelZ | Could it be squirrels? |
23:19.07 | ChannelZ | Squirrels ruin everything |
23:19.28 | raden_work | ok just popped it in my linux desktop here and it works fine |
23:19.45 | raden_work | not working on other 2 machines now for some odd reason format is ntfs |
23:20.10 | raden_work | usually i just check /proc/partitions and mount from there |
23:20.17 | raden_work | is there any other way todo it ? |
23:20.39 | Chainsaw | raden_work: zgrep CONFIG_USB_STORAGE /proc/config.gz | head -n1 |
23:20.48 | Chainsaw | raden_work: I expected that to return "not set" |
23:21.13 | p3nguin | should be 'm' |
23:21.45 | Chainsaw | It's 'y' here. |
23:22.25 | raden_work | TTSSUSA-1000:/ # zgrep CONFIG_USB_STORAGE /proc/config.gz | head -nl |
23:22.26 | raden_work | head: l: invalid number of lines |
23:22.36 | p3nguin | -n 1 |
23:22.40 | p3nguin | en one |
23:22.44 | raden_work | CONFIG_USB_STORAGE=m |
23:22.44 | raden_work | # CONFIG_USB_STORAGE_DEBUG is not set |
23:25.26 | raden_work | why does the device keep disconnecting ? |
23:26.09 | moldy | broken device? not enough power? |
23:26.33 | moldy | cheap usb hub? |
23:27.12 | raden_work | plugged right into mobo |
23:27.21 | raden_work | they keyboard and everything else is working |
23:27.39 | raden_work | device works fine on win 7 and opensuse box at my desk |
23:28.40 | raden_work | tried another stick same issue |
23:31.04 | moldy | usb-port broken? |
23:36.17 | raden_work | ok after like 3 min of sitting it just appeared in partitions ? |
23:36.27 | raden_work | <PROTECTED> |
23:36.27 | raden_work | <PROTECTED> |
23:38.17 | p3nguin | You're in luck, then. It isn't broken! |
23:38.41 | raden_work | why it take sooo long ? |
23:40.05 | ChannelZ | it was busy uploading everything to a pirate torrent site |
23:43.20 | p3nguin | hahaha |
23:48.24 | *** join/#asterisk ehsjoar (~ehsjoar@c-98-245-155-132.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
23:48.43 | raden_work | lmao |
23:48.56 | raden_work | 52 C acceptable for a P4 2.8 @ full load ? |
23:50.45 | p3nguin | What's that in F? |
23:51.09 | ChannelZ | hot |
23:51.17 | raden_work | 125 |
23:51.32 | p3nguin | That's not very hot at all, then. |
23:51.43 | moldy | 52°C is ok |
23:51.47 | p3nguin | I run my Core2 Quad far hotter than that. Like 80C. |
23:52.16 | raden_work | my quad runs at 38 C full load |
23:52.21 | raden_work | Q9650 |
23:52.26 | raden_work | 80 OMG |
23:53.03 | p3nguin | I have a Q9550 clocked at 3.40 GHz. |
23:53.58 | p3nguin | I admit that I need a better cooler for it. |
23:54.32 | p3nguin | The stock one can't handle when the sun is shining in plus I have a load. |
23:54.36 | raden_work | all that power for console ? |
23:54.46 | p3nguin | console what? |
23:54.51 | raden_work | you know what thermal spec on them are ??? |
23:55.00 | raden_work | p3nguin, i thought you werent a gui guy |
23:55.03 | p3nguin | I'm talking about my desktop computer. |
23:55.07 | raden_work | lol |
23:55.10 | raden_work | windows box ? |
23:55.16 | p3nguin | fuck no. |
23:55.19 | raden_work | lol |
23:55.21 | p3nguin | Arch64 |
23:55.59 | raden_work | 70 C max temp |
23:56.06 | raden_work | i cannot believe its stable at 80 |
23:56.17 | raden_work | and normally the CPU start stepping at them temps |
23:56.23 | p3nguin | The thermal alarm sounds at that temp. |
23:56.43 | raden_work | wow |
23:56.47 | raden_work | thats insane ! |
23:56.52 | p3nguin | I'm planning to move my computer away from the window pretty soon. |
23:57.06 | raden_work | id get a solid copper heatsink :) |
23:57.15 | raden_work | brought our server temp down 16 C |
23:57.26 | raden_work | I cant even hear it run now |
23:57.38 | raden_work | sooo quiete slow fan and big copper heat sink :) |
23:57.42 | p3nguin | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118051 |
23:57.57 | p3nguin | I'm going to put that on it. |
23:58.52 | p3nguin | I have at least one case fan that needs replaced, too. |
23:59.40 | raden_work | that should do the trick |
23:59.44 | raden_work | my issue is hard drive heat |
23:59.54 | raden_work | never putting 8 drives in mid tower in raid 10 again |