IRC log for #asterisk on 20100111

00:00.03hhkahyayes, installed and configured step by step in the inst. but it is not working
00:00.10darkdrgn2khhkahya: freepbx?
00:00.16hhkahyaprobably centos problem (or apache )
00:00.18ManxPower-workhhkahya: Then you should ask on the #AsteriskNow or AsteriskGUI
00:00.19equijadai have the same problem with extension 8 but 8 it is not in my extensison
00:00.26hhkahyadarkdrgn2k : asterisk 1.6
00:00.34[TK]D-Fender[18:57]<hhkahya>i have been created and included it to sip.conf sip forwarding settings to
00:00.40[TK]D-Fenderhhkahya: there is no such thing as forwarding
00:00.46ManxPower-workBecause you'll never understand what we are saying and what we tell you won't apply to a GUI configuration
00:01.00equijadahttp://pastebin.com/m71417bf6
00:01.04equijadathis is my error
00:01.07[TK]D-Fenderhhkahya: sip.conf points to a dialplan conectext.  Go look where your CALL is looking for that match and SHOW US your dilaplan and the SIP DEBUG of your failed call
00:01.09[TK]D-Fender~pb
00:01.09infobot[~pb] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org ,  http://bin.cakephp.org/ , or apt-get install pastebinit
00:01.11[TK]D-Fender^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
00:01.52equijadaUnknown extension '8' in context 'from-ptsn' requested
00:02.06equijadabut i dont have any 8 in my extension
00:02.07[TK]D-Fenderequijada: Trying to dial from a Zaptel FXS channel?
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00:02.41equijada[TK]D-Fender:No I have a T1 channel and I calling to this
00:03.02[TK]D-Fenderequijada: What is it conencted to?
00:03.14[TK]D-Fenderequijada: What kind of T1 signalling?
00:03.23equijadaAMI
00:03.27equijadasuperframe
00:03.38equijadai show the zaptel too
00:03.50equijadain this file
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00:04.19equijadajust i want is receive a call for this trunk and say a file
00:04.24[TK]D-Fenderequijada: what DEVICE is * conencted to for this?
00:04.36equijadaopenvox d110p
00:04.56[TK]D-Fenderequijada: THE OTHER SIDE DAMMIT
00:06.04equijada[TK]D-Fender: telco t1
00:06.10equijadai mean
00:06.40[TK]D-Fenderequijada: Looks like thy may be trying to send you a DID via FSK
00:06.54[TK]D-Fenderequijada: Do you have DID's starting with 8?
00:06.58equijadanop
00:07.08equijadawell, the pilot number
00:07.13equijadabegins with 8
00:07.28equijadathe main number is 809....
00:08.23[TK]D-Fenderequijada: Then Go make an IVR to read in the full number.  exten => _X.,NoOp(Telco is sending "${EXTEN}")
00:08.29[TK]D-Fenderequijada: Then Go make an IVR to read in the full number.  exten => _X.,1,NoOp(Telco is sending "${EXTEN}")
00:08.32[TK]D-Fender(forgot prio
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00:09.34equijadai dont uunderstand   :(
00:11.28hhkahyamy main set-ups http://pastebin.com/m63890fa8
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00:16.25[TK]D-Fenderequijada: I just gave you an exten to add to your inbound context so it doesn't crap out on the fact you're GETTING a number and can't see what it is in full
00:16.49[TK]D-Fenderhhkahya: host=212.24.146.39&212.24.146.38&82.113.42.140<- can't have multiple hosts
00:17.02[TK]D-Fenderhhkahya: And that pastebin doesn't show me a FAILURE
00:17.16[TK]D-Fender[18:56]<hhkahya>i have take a like this error [Jan 11 01:56:09] NOTICE[31986]: chan_sip.c:18002 handle_request_invite: Call from ” to extension '226254282' rejected because extension not found.
00:17.28[TK]D-Fenderhhkahya: I fail to see an EXTENSION to match that number
00:18.28[TK]D-Fenderhhkahya: You have 1 exten in the context we only HOPE that your call is even LOOKING AT.  It is "s".  "s" is not a magic catch-all, and your call is failing because you don't have an exten that can match that number it is showing you
00:18.59dlynes[TK]D-Fender, testy testy...
00:19.01dlynesblinks.
00:19.25hhkahyai see, thanks, i am trying on it :)
00:20.37hhkahya<[TK]D-Fender> how can i enter the multiple hosts ?
00:20.50[TK]D-Fender[19:16]<[TK]D-Fender>hhkahya: host=212.24.146.39&212.24.146.38&82.113.42.140<- can't have multiple hosts
00:21.01[TK]D-Fenderhhkahya: What part of NOT POSSIBLE are you not understanding?
00:22.00hhkahyai understand but should i enter different parts for that ips ? how can reach these hosts ?
00:23.36[TK]D-Fenderhhkahya: You cannot have multiple specific hosts to CONTACT.  It is not possible.  NOT FUCKING POSSILBE.  Am I clear now?
00:23.57[TK]D-Fenderhhkahya: There is no "how" in doing this with *.
00:24.25hhkahyathanks
00:28.47equijada[TK]D-Fender
00:28.49equijada:
00:28.56equijadaI get this
00:28.58equijadaExecuting [8092385690@from-ptsn:1] NoOp("Zap/1-1", ""8092385690"") in new stack
00:29.23equijadabut that is the number that i call
00:29.48[TK]D-Fenderequijada: Good.  Then make an exten to MATCH it.
00:30.22equijadabut the idea of "s" it is not that
00:30.23equijada?
00:30.57equijadamy extension just have 3 lines
00:31.21voipmonkgrins
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00:31.42[TK]D-Fenderequijada: Another person who fails to READ
00:31.54[TK]D-Fender[19:18]<[TK]D-Fender>hhkahya: You have 1 exten in the context we only HOPE that your call is even LOOKING AT. It is "s". "s" is not a magic catch-all, and your call is failing because you don't have an exten that can match that number it is showing you
00:32.14[TK]D-Fenderequijada: Because of the nature of your T1, there IS a DID dialed.  Therefor * HAS a number to look for and the call does NOT go to "s"
00:33.04equijadaexten => s,1,Answer()
00:33.04equijadaexten => s,2,Playback(vm-Work)
00:33.04equijadaexten => s,3,Hangup()
00:33.43equijadaso we need to create an extension with this number
00:34.06voipmonkyes
00:34.08voipmonkyou do equijada
00:34.23voipmonkpoints to [TK]D-Fenders post
00:34.32equijadaok
00:34.37voipmonkgets one of those big game fingers and points
00:34.41equijadalet 's do it so
00:34.59voipmonkno lets, just do it
00:35.08voipmonkthen retest
00:35.08voipmonkgood luck
00:35.09voipmonk:)
00:35.14p3nguinlike Nike
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00:35.54equijadaso replace s by the number?
00:36.17p3nguinyes
00:42.40equijadaYeah!! Works!!
00:42.56equijadaThks!! 2 day without sleep for this
00:43.09equijadathks [TK]D-Fender!!!!
00:44.21equijadabut I wanna know why? I have relaized anothers instalations and I never get this
00:44.39[TK]D-Fenderequijada: This telco passes the number.  End of story
00:45.44equijada[TK]D-Fender: so this number is the main number for my T1
00:46.28equijadatelco can I send another number for another channel
00:47.31[TK]D-Fenderequijada: Looks lik
00:48.14equijadathks!!
01:00.10rossandThis is odd: twinkle (on Linux) works out/in with SIP. Same account with my snom phone can call out but gets an error for incoming calls. Here's a partial quote: "Received response: "Forbidden" from ... is circuit-busy" Any suggestions?
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01:02.06rossandIn the messages log, I see this: Forbidden - maybe wrong password on authentication for NOTIFY
01:02.41[TK]D-Fenderrossand: Notify != call.  And your partial info isn't useful.
01:02.50[TK]D-Fenderrossand: Go look at your configs and complete call debug
01:03.58rossand[TK]D-Fender: That's what brought me here. That is all the information. unfortunately.
01:04.21[TK]D-Fenderrossand: then go get more.
01:05.16correticohello eveboyd
01:05.29correticosorry people
01:05.54correticoI need some help with my fresh asterisk installation
01:06.36correticoI'm new with asterisk and I want to use my asterisk with a Cisco 7960 SIP Phone
01:06.45correticoAny suggest for that??
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01:07.51[TK]D-Fendercorretico: Go configure it
01:08.17corretico<[TK]D-Fender>sure... but I dont know how I can start on it
01:08.19correticojejeje
01:08.38correticosorry for my english
01:09.08[TK]D-Fendercorretico: Go read the WIKI.  Plenty of guides there.
01:09.10[TK]D-Fender~wikis
01:09.10infobot[~wikis] VoIP Wiki covering Asterisk, FreeSWITCH, TrixBox, SER, OpenSER, sipX, CallWeaver, and YATE.  http://www.voip-info.org (c) Arte Marketing Inc / CommPartners
01:12.18rossand[TK]D-Fender: Thanks anyhow - only 2 lines of output in the log & high verbose is all I've got. Since twinkle works for in/out, and snom out but not in, it gives me a thread to pull on and try experimenting to figure it out.
01:12.49[TK]D-Fenderrossand: Logs are worthless.  Go pay attention to * CLI & SIP DEBUG
01:13.09rossand[TK]D-Fender: Cool, thank you. That's helpful.
01:14.39rossand[TK]D-Fender: sip debug is the output from running asterisk with -v's or core set verbose #, correct?
01:15.05[TK]D-Fenderrossand: No, sip debug is entirely different and has to be requested at CLI
01:15.10[TK]D-Fenderrossand: "help sip"
01:15.33rossandI see it... sip set debug. Thanks again.
01:29.22VxJasonxVAnyone have any documentation on res_phoneprov? Google is turning up mostly checkin pages, mailing lists, ml resyndicates... etc.
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01:31.24carrarcorretico, also skim through the "Book"
01:31.28carrar~book
01:31.29infobot[~book] Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF at http://www.asteriskdocs.org --- HTML at http://astbook.asteriskdocs.org or see ~buybook
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02:03.37[TK]D-FenderVxJasonxV: Poorly documented, and probably only marginally useful.  Go configure them yourself
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02:34.32plut0having nat issues with SIP, i setup stun, can make calls but theres no voice
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02:43.45VxJasonxV[TK]D-Fender, good answer :P
02:44.47VxJasonxVhmm. a call exiting "non-zero" is bad, isn't it?
02:45.00VxJasonxVIs there something I'm supposed to do after issuing a Hangup() in the dialplan?
02:45.11ChannelZhave a cookie
02:45.37VxJasonxVperhaps not "bad", but, wouldn't I rather calls exit zero?
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02:48.04[TK]D-FenderVxJasonxV: No
02:48.16VxJasonxVoh. well then
02:48.23ChannelZIt usually just means someone hung up
02:49.10VxJasonxVI got 30 SIP calls from some stranger, and when I looked back at their IP, it's a spammer.
02:49.15VxJasonxVSIP spam? seriously?
02:49.29ChannelZmade ya look!
02:49.48ChannelZthey'll do anything
02:49.54VxJasonxVindeed
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02:52.39hlueseathanks
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08:53.53devmodnight
08:54.21devmodanyone knows how can I record video prompts? or convert .avi to .h263/4 ?
08:56.37tzafrirdevmod, ffmpeg ?
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08:58.47devmodi thought there were some weird headers at the beginning of the files?
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10:12.17casixhello
10:13.50casixI'm using the G option to play a dynamic playback to the called. After the playback I would like to bridge the channel but I don't know how to do it. Any ideas? thx
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10:28.10shamelessn00bhi guys
10:29.50shamelessn00bI need to do a simple modification in the mp3 applicationof asterisk 1.6.2.0
10:30.32shamelessn00bwhenever user presses a key whilst an mp3 is being played instead of jumping on the next line in the dialplan I want the user to land on a specific portion of the dialplan
10:30.40shamelessn00blike its done in the meetme application
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10:34.45tzafrirshamelessn00b, why not do it in the dialplan?
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10:35.19shamelessn00btzafrir I cant get the dtmf user pressed when it exits the mp3 application
10:35.36shamelessn00bit just gets the user into the next line in the dialplan
10:36.05tzafrirshamelessn00b, Background(some-sound)
10:36.30shamelessn00bim playing an mp3 stream
10:36.36tzafrirWaitForDigit() ; or whatever it is called
10:36.59shamelessn00bthe application flw is something like this
10:37.05shamelessn00buser is listening to an mp3 stream
10:37.14tzafrirshamelessn00b, so what you need is an option to play it in the background
10:37.22shamelessn00band he can press a defined digit say *
10:37.29shamelessn00bwhenever the user presses *
10:37.33shamelessn00bthe stream playback stops
10:37.55shamelessn00band the song in the mp3 stream is set as the user ring back tone
10:38.29shamelessn00band the next line in dialplan takes the user back to a set of menu choiuces
10:39.14AkiraaAnyone field tested Skype and Skype Out?
10:39.36shamelessn00bI was doing it in the meetme app (using musiconhold with custom option) but was having issues with it
10:40.06shamelessn00bwhenever the user pressed a key and got out of the meetme app the stream playback stopped for all the users
10:40.28shamelessn00bthe meetme app somehow terminated the process that was running the stream
10:44.36shamelessn00btzafrir: the background solution would have worked but I am playing a live radio stream
10:44.41shamelessn00bfrom icecast server
10:58.23shamelessn00btzafrir: any ideas??
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11:13.16GNU\colossushi folks
11:14.29GNU\colossuswe're having rather wird problems with our asterisk server here. seemingly at random, we cannot hear the remote user (rx breaks), but they an hear us just fine (tx works) - any idea what could be the cause of this?
11:15.31UQlevGNU\colossus: is your * behind firewall?
11:15.39AkiraaGNU\colossus: NAT issues most likely
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11:16.08GNU\colossusUQlev: what's my *? Akiraa: we're behind NAT, but our asterisk box is connected to an external VOIP provider
11:16.46GNU\colossusAkiraa: please note that this happens in the midst of calls.
11:17.08UQlevGNU\colossus: does your asterisk (*) server have public IP or nutted private IP?
11:17.59GNU\colossusUQlev: ah, nifty shorthand there. yes, we're behind NAT. but connected to an external voip provider.
11:18.22Akiraasome ISPs can fuck with traffic intentionally, but that's hard to pinpoint
11:18.46ManxPower-workIt means nothing that you are "connected to an external provider"
11:18.48AkiraaGNU\colossus: are you using SIP or IAX2?
11:19.20casixI'm using the G option to play a dynamic playback to the called. After the playback I would like to bridge the channel but I don't know how to do it. Any ideas? thx
11:20.02GNU\colossusAkiraa: our ISP is also our VOIP provider, and they insist it's a problem at our endpoint. Akiraa: please pardon my stupidity, but how can I quickly check that?
11:20.18AkiraaGNU\colossus: if SIP, then the VoIP provider may need to be aware you are behind NAT (some serverside adjustments may be needed)
11:20.28UQlevGNU\colossus: all VoIP servises are very sensitive to quality of NAT-router. The best solution is to run your asterisk on a host with direct public interface
11:20.37ManxPower-work~answers
11:20.38infobotwell, answers is Asterisk Book: http://astbook.asteriskdocs.org & SIP w/ NAT: http://www.aocomputing.net/?p=3 & Wiki:  http://www.voip-info.org & docs: /path/to/src/asterisk/doc & 1.4 .vs. 1.6.0 .vs. 1.6.1: : /path/to/src/asterisk/UPGRADE*.txt
11:20.48ManxPower-workThere's how to set up Asterisk when it is behind NAT.
11:23.15UQlevGNU\colossus: at the beginning I had weird problem when after 2-3 days after router restart my asterisk got missing packets, and then I had to restart router. Later I have got rid of router and no problems arose within a year or so
11:24.48ManxPower-workcasix: Your question requires too much effort to parse.
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11:27.44GNU\colossusafter fiddling with the * console, I think we're using iax2
11:28.14ManxPower-workGNU\colossus: You THINK?  We can't help you if you don't know your own system.
11:28.26casixManxPower-work: with option G in the dial the called channel is redirected to x priority and the caller to the x+1 priority. There I playback some messages and after that I would like to bridge the calls like a normal dial. Is that possible?
11:28.33shamelessn00bI want to modify the mp3player application a bit
11:28.39ManxPower-workcasix: that should happen automatically
11:28.44FaustovGNU\colossus: hi :>
11:28.51GNU\colossusFaustov: hi there :D
11:29.25shamelessn00bwhenever the user presses a key, instead of simply exiting the application and jumping on to the next line in the dialplan, I want the user to go to a specific portion in the dialplan depending on which key is pressed
11:29.56GNU\colossusManxPower-work: I'm terribly sorry, but I'm not our on-site * "expert". still, I've been told to tap into the community to look for suggestions on what could be wrong with our setup.
11:30.28ManxPower-workGNU\colossus: Unfortunately there is not much we can do without knowing anything.
11:31.43GNU\colossus`iax2 show registry` shows a host from the IP-range of our ISP we're supposedly connected to. so I guess we're using AXP2 as protocol. there are no listed SIP subscriptions on the server in question.
11:32.43ManxPower-workGNU\colossus: So nothing is shown in "sip show subscriptions"?   How about "sip show registry" or "sip show peers".
11:33.23ManxPower-workGNU\colossus: Are you using a GUI version of Asterisk?
11:33.25GNU\colossusManxPower-work: nothing either.
11:33.28GNU\colossusManxPower-work: CLI only
11:33.52casixManxPower-work: I have this dialplan, but after that the call is hangup: http://pastebin.org/74222  I'm using asterisk 1.4.26.2
11:34.04casixit is not bridged
11:34.20ManxPower-workcasix: that is not a dialplan.  dialplan extensions start with priority 1
11:35.03ManxPower-workGNU\colossus: pastebin the out out if "iax2 show registry" and "iax2 show peers"
11:35.04casixyes yes ok I've cutted it a little, I have more things before this part
11:35.06ManxPower-work~pb
11:35.07infobot[~pb] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org ,  http://bin.cakephp.org/ , or apt-get install pastebinit
11:37.27GNU\colossusManxPower-work: http://pasted.at/6760770f4a.html
11:38.37ManxPower-workGNU\colossus: What, exactly, is this server used for?  You said you have no sip peers and you have only one iax2 connection.  Are all your phones Zap or DAHDI??
11:40.06casixManxPower-work: yes yes ok I've cutted it a little, I have more things before this part, get some variables from mysql...
11:41.25ManxPower-workcasix: show the CLI output of a failed call.  NO CUTTING!
11:42.07GNU\colossusManxPower-work: it's a virtual machine running ubuntu 8.04 LTS on a rather potent host running Linux-KVM. the only services it's running are openssh and asterisk. by phones, do you mean the physical/software IP phones our marketing dep. uses to actually make calls?
11:42.51ManxPower-workGNU\colossus: I'm sorry, I cannot help you futher.
11:42.58ManxPower-workfurther
11:43.09GNU\colossusthanks for your time, anyway :)
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11:47.57_cgcmorning everyone
11:48.16casixManxPower-work: here is: http://pastebin.org/74228
11:50.17_cgcdoes anyone know why when making calls over a sip trunk the sound does not work 1 way?
11:50.30_cgchttp://pastebin.ca/1746758 <---- a copy of the call with sip debug
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11:52.38AkiraaIs there any instance where ISDN/DSL/ADSL would be useful if you're not a POTS phone company with existing infrastructure?
11:52.55shamelessn00bManxPower-work:
11:53.00shamelessn00bcan has halp?
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11:54.22tzafrirwhat can?
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11:56.12ManxPower-worktzafrir: he wants to modify app_mp3playback or whatever the app is.
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12:02.40ManxPower-workcasix: looks like G wants G(context^exten^pri) and you are only doing G(pri)
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12:05.49casixManxPower-work: ok, I try it now, but the playbacks are doned ok, the problem is that after that the 2 legs are hangup, not bridged
12:06.17casixManxPower-work: it don't work either
12:06.56casixs/either/nor/
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12:09.08CRCinAU_Anyone know anything about T38 and asterisk?
12:11.11ManxPower-workcasix: I have no more suggestions
12:11.34casixok, thank you, i will keep searching
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12:17.23shamelessn00bhow can I get a dtmf using asterisk low level functions
12:17.46shamelessn00bfrom a data frame
12:18.20shamelessn00bast_frame f;
12:18.25shamelessn00bI have this variable
12:18.53tzafrirshamelessn00b, generally it is in dsp.c
12:18.58shamelessn00b<PROTECTED>
12:19.08shamelessn00bif (f->frametype == AST_FRAME_DTMF)
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12:19.17shamelessn00bthis says that if the frame contains a DTMF
12:19.22tzafrirAlso: what do you need to do in case of a digit?
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12:19.29CRCinAU_hmmm - it seems nobody knows squatt about T38 and asterisk :p
12:19.33tzafrire.g.: can you use feature codes instead?
12:19.35CRCinAU_even google knows squatt.
12:19.40shamelessn00bI'll just save it as an environment variable
12:19.42tzafrir(features.conf)
12:19.47shamelessn00band access it in my dialplan
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12:20.05shamelessn00bthe application is going to exit as the dtmf is recieved
12:21.00shamelessn00bany idea?
12:21.24shamelessn00bhow do I access the actual data in the frame
12:21.36shamelessn00bnot just tell what type of data the frame contains
12:22.31shamelessn00bhttp://docs.freeswitch.org/structast__frame.html#428eb62de8abc2cb3612ea5dfa96a3d6
12:23.08ManxPower-workCRCinAU_: T-38 implimentations are buggy, instable, and have major interop issues.  You are correct, most people don't think it is worth the major amounts of work to make it work.
12:23.22ManxPower-workshamelessn00b: try #asterisk-dev
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12:24.33Caplainexten => _10|X.,1,Macro(dialprovider)
12:24.36Caplainis that correct?
12:24.47Caplainthe extension part at least
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12:24.56shamelessn00bok thanks ManxPower-work
12:24.56ManxPower-workCaplain: no.
12:25.45Caplainwhat would be correct to match something like 10*266300 and have it cut off 10?
12:26.22ManxPower-workexten => _10*XXXXXX,1,Something(${EXTEN:2})
12:26.58ManxPower-workCaplain: extension patterns are NOT regex's
12:27.14Caplaingood, regex hates me
12:28.06CaplainExecuting [s@macro-dialsipbroker:2] Dial("Local/10*266300@default-0c25,2", "SIP/sipbroker-out/10*266300") in new stack
12:28.14Caplainyeah its still passing the 10 to it
12:28.27ManxPower-workCaplain: then you are doing it wrong
12:28.35Caplainobviously
12:28.41Caplainwhich is why i came here
12:28.44ManxPower-workmaybe if you pasted the ACTUAL line?
12:28.56ManxPower-work~pb
12:28.57infobot[~pb] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org ,  http://bin.cakephp.org/ , or apt-get install pastebinit
12:30.30Caplainhttp://pastebin.com/m3ee3192
12:31.04Caplainzpaste never allows long enough postage :(
12:31.09Caplainerr dpaste
12:31.29casixCaplain: line 33 you need a 2 not a 0
12:31.30ManxPower-workWhat the hell is this: exten => _10*X.,1,Macro(dialsipbroker,${EXTEN:0}) ; SIP-Code dialing
12:31.52ManxPower-work${EXTEN:0} != ${EXTEN:2} !!!!
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12:32.35CaplainManxPower-work, oh? well its copy pasted and i havent dealt with this stuff in years
12:33.02ManxPower-workCaplain: Maybe so but I GAVE you the correct EXTEN
12:33.14ManxPower-work(7:26:21 AM) ManxPower-work: exten => _10*XXXXXX,1,Something(${EXTEN:2})
12:33.14Caplainyes, thanks
12:33.27ManxPower-workgo fix it.
12:33.52Caplainworks!!!! :)
12:33.56Caplainthanks :-D
12:34.10ManxPower-workCaplain: Don't worry, you'll have plenty of other problems.
12:34.33Caplainactually no, the rest is copying and pasting what i just did over and over
12:34.58ManxPower-workno, since you don't even know what the :number after a variable you're going to have many other issues
12:36.21CaplainManxPower-work, i didn't know that elecromagnetism was radio waves a few months ago and now i have a homebrew 5 mile wifi antenna
12:36.23Caplainso yeah :/
12:36.26Caplaini learn fast
12:37.38ManxPower-workCaplain: I wish you the BEST of luck.
12:37.53Caplain:-D thanks
12:37.55Caplainill need it
12:38.18CRCinAU_ManxPower-work: Digium have created a commercial fax thing for asterisk
12:38.28CRCinAU_so it's obviously something someone wants....
12:38.36CRCinAU_but there's shit all in the way of docs :(
12:38.49ManxPower-workCRCinAU_: What makes you think they created it for T.38?
12:39.01ManxPower-workvirtually all faxing in the world is NOT T.38
12:39.37CRCinAU_http://www.digium.com/en/products/software/faxforasterisk.php <<-- this.
12:40.24ManxPower-workCRCinAU_: then go contact them for support.
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12:41.00Morlacguys
12:41.04Morlacneed help
12:41.13ManxPower-work~ask
12:41.14infobotQuestions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic.  Don't ask if you can ask a question first.  Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them.  Better questions more frequently yield better answers.  We are all here voluntarily or against our will.
12:41.34MorlacI need to convince someone that the NEC univerge is no good...am trying to convince him of switchvox
12:41.47MorlacI have no knowledge about the univerge
12:41.51ManxPower-workMorlac: Maybe you could ask on a Switchvox channel?
12:42.08Morlacthat would do... #switchvox?
12:42.18ManxPower-workMorlac: no idea.  Nobody here uses it.
12:42.45MorlacI see, ok, ill look around
12:43.51Morlacthansk
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13:16.24devmodanyone knows how can I record video prompts? or convert .avi to .h263/4 to be played on asterisk ?
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13:20.24SolmyrBhaalHey All
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13:20.54SolmyrBhaalI am trying to get into developing in Asterisk for an embedded platform.  We have downloaded Astfin which works great however - for ever change I want to make to the Asterisk Source code we need to rebuild Linux and then copy the uImage on the board - this also doesn't allow us to debug the board.
13:21.23SolmyrBhaalWe have plug-ins for the board (it is BlackFin 537) linked to Eclipse that we can build C and C++ projects to the board.  Is there an easy way to link Asterisk to Eclispe so I can build and make any changes needed to the source?  Or any other program that you can easily debug and make changes to asterisk (other than using test editior and the make files included?)
13:21.49ManxPower-workSolmyrBhaal: Try asking on #asterisk-dev
13:22.04SolmyrBhaalKK thanks,
13:22.08guyvdb_Hi, I have a dial plan that has the following:    exten => _XXXXXXXXXX,1,Dial(DAHDI/g1/${EXTEN})    now I want to add the ability to Dial(DAHDI/g2/${EXTEN}) if the dahdi g1 goup is congested. How would I go about that?
13:22.08SolmyrBhaalwill give it a try...
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13:22.47guyvdb_would it be priority 101?
13:23.00ManxPower-workguyvdb_: see macro-stdexten in the extensions.conf.sample.  Basically check the value of DIALSTATUS after the first Dial to determine if the 2nd Dial is needed.
13:23.19ManxPower-workguyvdb_: any docs that mention n+101 are many years out of date.
13:24.08[TK]D-Fenderguyvdb_: Just dial them back to back
13:24.43[TK]D-Fenderguyvdb_: Or if the dial line would look identical except for the group, jsut make a 2nd group
13:24.44guyvdb_thx
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13:25.15[TK]D-Fenderguyvdb_: I suggest the lastter
13:25.19[TK]D-Fenderlatter*
13:25.21[TK]D-Fendergah...
13:25.24guyvdb_I have 2 groups already.... but I want to dial in g1 first and only if congested do i want to dial in g2
13:25.33voipmonklaster gives u the same idea
13:25.35voipmonk:)
13:25.42voipmonkchuckles
13:26.04voipmonkhides before getting kicked in the head :_
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13:26.45voipmonku could use dialstatus or just make dialing out g2 the next priority :)
13:27.07ManxPower-workguyvdb_: you have your answer
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13:27.26voipmonkbut... you would need to know what dialstatus is and priorities which means you would need to .... oh my god... READ!!!
13:27.40voipmonkim so sorry
13:29.01guyvdb_ManxPower-work found the example... thx
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13:31.12jkroonok guys, how do i go about trouble-shooting call cuttoffs?
13:31.18jkroonon asterisk 1.6.1.12 now
13:31.35jkroonthis didn't happen with 1.6.1.6, however, we need other fixes since then.
13:32.03ManxPower-workjkroon: make sure you have the latest DAHDI
13:32.07_cgcwould anyone know why one side of a phone call over a sip trunk would not work, you can hear the person talking from one side but not from the other, I have forwarded all relevant ports 5060, 10000-20000
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13:32.19jkroonit's SIP channels cutting off, but I'll do the dahdi upgrade thing anyway.
13:32.24ManxPower-work_cgc: incorrect localnet or externip=
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13:32.33jkroonSIP <-> SIP.
13:32.43ManxPower-workjkroon: Next time give more details so people are not forced to assume.
13:32.47_cgcManxPower-work: nah that is correct
13:33.07jkroonManxPower-work, thanks :).  i'm not even sure what's all relavent in this case.
13:33.09_cgcManxPower-work: http://pastebin.ca/1746758  <------ call with sip debug logs
13:33.10ManxPower-work_cgc: then the other other thing could be the far end NAT'd phone.  Make sure the PHONE has no NAT stuff enabled.
13:33.31jkrooni actually think it's something to do with app_queue ... only client we have this problem, also the only client where app_queue is in use.
13:33.52jkroonbut now they said the same applies on outbound calls, which does not go via app_queue.
13:34.26ManxPower-work_cgc: good thing you spend the time removing all the important information from that pastebin
13:34.48_cgcManxPower-work: lol, made that mistake before :/
13:35.24_cgcits easy with vim and %s/
13:35.48ManxPower-work_cgc: Do you have canreinvite=no in sip.conf?
13:36.06ManxPower-workjkroon: I wish you the BEST of luck.
13:36.18_cgcManxPower-work: yes
13:36.39jkroonthanks ManxPower-work - any ideas where i can start looking perhaps?
13:37.10ManxPower-workjkroon: no idea where you would learn what is important to mention and what is not important
13:38.59jkroonin this case I really don't know what's important and what not, what I know is that the call comes in from a CISCO PRI->SIP GW, goes into app_queue, gets picked up by a SIP/ member, and gets cut off 30 seconds later.
13:40.00ManxPower-workset canreinvite=no in sip.conf
13:40.20ManxPower-workjkroon: every statement you make includes some ciritical piece of info you left out.
13:40.49jkroonwould be useful for me for future if you can point out for me what you consider critical then I can focus around that.
13:40.54_cgcManxPower-work: canreinvite=no is already set in sip.conf
13:41.29jkrooni've also got canreinvite=no in my sip.conf - I do this by default for other reasons (more accurate CDRs and recording purposes)
13:43.55NET||abuseI swear, arrg, i can't get the demo-congrats to not be the result when you call our phone number?  have a sip trunk from our voip provider, we get a local phone number to our area, so the asterisk box picks up incoming calls, problem is i can't get incoming calls to ring our ringgroup?  i just made a "main" ring group and stuck the 3 extensions for our softphones in.  incoming call rule pattern _X.  to our call group,, apply,, nothing happening.
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13:44.03NET||abusei just get "congratulations on installing.... blah blah"
13:44.24ManxPower-workNET||abuse: Don't forget to remind everyone you are using AsteriskNOW
13:44.45ManxPower-workAnd the fact you are too stubborn to ask on the correct channel.
13:45.37NET||abuseI always ask on the correct channel, no-one ever responds.
13:45.57ManxPower-workNET||abuse: Maybe you should rethink using a product that is not supported.
13:46.02ManxPower-workAsking here does no good either.
13:46.07[TK]D-FenderNET||abuse: that doesn't become our problem here...
13:46.10NET||abuseManxPower-work, fair nuff :(
13:46.19NET||abuseI'm chancing my arm and I know it :)
13:46.35NET||abusejust hard when i seem to be getting no-where for days on end.
13:46.35[TK]D-Fenderjkroon: Where is the complete call with SIP debug enabled for us to look at?
13:46.37ManxPower-work[TK]D-Fender: I guess it's too much to hope that NET||abuse gets banned?
13:46.40NET||abusea bit frustrating :P
13:46.54voipmonkback again , NET||abuse
13:46.59voipmonk?
13:47.04NET||abusevoipmonk, yeh, just nothing wants to work for me
13:47.14jkroon[TK]D-Fender, trying to get one but I'm not even seeing any indication in asterisk CLI that calls are being dropped.
13:47.17voipmonkwell thats sort of not how it works anyway :)
13:47.22NET||abusei can't get phone calls out, i can get the ring group working, the only thing that works is calls between extensions.
13:47.54ManxPower-workSo you come here and waste our time?
13:48.06NET||abusejust hitting a wall ever time i go at it. and it's frustrating me :(
13:48.13NET||abuseManxPower-work, it's your choice to respond or not.
13:48.20ManxPower-workNET||abuse: How, exactly, is that our problem?
13:48.30[TK]D-FenderNET||abuse: sonds like your install is fine and you simply ahve no clue on USING FreePBX... go take it up in there then
13:48.32[TK]D-Fender~freepbx
13:48.33infobot[~freepbx] FreePBX is unable to be supported here. It is made up of complex dialplans and scripts which can't be easily supported by people who aren't deeply involved. Try joining #freepbx and asking there, or fpbx
13:48.48ManxPower-work[TK]D-Fender: he's been told many, many times.  He refuses to accept it.
13:49.07voipmonkwell thats a start - there are these things online.... they're called "tutorials", holy cow man if you saw one, I think you would just die... its like reading a book... but not... it has pictures... and oh my buddha...   if you saw the ones with motion picture... on youboob.. I know you wouldnt be able to handle it :)
13:49.22[TK]D-FenderManxPower-work: Last referral was to #asterisknow . THAT is of no use.  #freepbx actually has people who help
13:49.35ManxPower-work[TK]D-Fender: AsteriskNOW uses FreePBX?
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13:50.03[TK]D-FenderManxPower-work: ..... what rock have you been under?  Did it hurt when it landed? :p
13:50.12ManxPower-workI thought it used whatever Digium GUI was.  Maybe I was thinking of AsteriskGUI
13:50.15[TK]D-FenderManxPower-work: I've even told you directly myself long ago
13:50.32ManxPower-work~asterisknow
13:50.33infobotrumour has it, asterisknow is based on Asterisk, but is difficult to support in #asterisk for a number of reasons.  Please seek support in #asterisknow instead.
13:50.43ManxPower-workmaybe someone should update that channel name?
13:50.59[TK]D-FenderManxPower-work: Whats wrong with the channel name?
13:51.14ManxPower-work[TK]D-Fender: you just said he should be asking on #FreePBX.
13:51.45[TK]D-FenderManxPower-work: He isn't having a DISTRO PROBLEM, he's having a "OMG I'm incompetant with the GUI it comes BUNDLED with" problem
13:52.14ManxPower-work[TK]D-Fender: His problem is he's an idiot.
13:52.15[TK]D-FenderManxPower-work: So let the GUI people help him
13:52.26ManxPower-work[TK]D-Fender: Been trying.  He refuses to leave.
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13:55.23NET||abuseManxPower-work, Well apologies for my previous actions, I will cease asking asterisk-gui stuff in here.
13:55.46[TK]D-FenderNET||abuse: It isn't Asterisk GUI stuff.  Its ***FREEPBX*** stuff
13:56.02[TK]D-FenderNET||abuse: So go to #freepbx , not #asteriskgui or #asterisknow
13:56.04gr0mitNET||abuse, you are much better off using raw asterisk
13:59.49_cgcManxPower-work: no idea's then? or do you need more info?
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14:00.34jkroondoes anybody know what codec 126 is about?  seems x-lite sends it for MOH or something?
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14:04.22ManxPower-workjkroon: "core show codecs"
14:04.52ManxPower-work_cgc: ask [TK]D-Fender
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14:05.45jkroonManxPower-work, that's weird.  it's basically all the codecs that x-lite support, but I only receive it when a call goes on hold.
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14:06.43jkrooncould this be the result of a call cut?  utils.c:1126 ast_carefulwrite: write() returned error: Broken pipe
14:06.57jkroonand if this is the case, can I guess (wager) network error?
14:07.11tzafrirjkroon, 126 = 127 - 1 = 2 + 4 +8 + 16 + 32 + 64
14:07.36_cgc[TK]D-Fender: When I call out over a sip trunk, 1 side of the call has no sound, http://pastebin.ca/1746758 <--- call with sip debug on
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14:08.05ManxPower-workjkroon: no, that shows what codecs ASTERISK supports
14:08.17_cgc[TK]D-Fender: any idea's?
14:08.20Kobazaaaaxxeterisk
14:08.21jkrooni know, but i'm trying to locate the warning I receive.
14:09.09voipmonklove noisy feedback
14:09.22jkroonrtp.c:1796 ast_rtp_read: Unknown RTP codec 126 received from '192.9.200.179'.
14:09.29voipmonkand a bunch of nat retries
14:09.29_cgc[TK]D-Fender: If its me calling out over the trunk, I cannot hear them, but they can hear me fine
14:09.33jkroonthinks he should go find a good SIP guide and learn the protocol.
14:09.48voipmonkcall goes out
14:10.17_cgcvoipmonk: are you talking to me?
14:10.19voipmonkthen someone dialed 6101 which doesnt exist as an extension
14:10.43[TK]D-Fender_cgc: Retransmitting #6 (no NAT) to 217.14.132.183:5060: <- clearly not good.  Next you are masking IP's, and I am not seeing your CONFIGS.
14:11.04[TK]D-Fenderjkroon: https://issues.asterisk.org/view.php?id=15157
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14:12.27stmaherHi guys..
14:12.31Kobazhi
14:12.44Kobazthank you, come again
14:12.55stmaherCould someone please point me to an example code of a menu where if the call loops through it twice it autodisconnects the call
14:13.07stmaherits to stop calls taking up lines
14:14.24jkroon[TK]D-Fender, thanks.  that clears things up.  Especially the whole NAT keep-alive thing and it makes sense.
14:14.29Kobazin extensions.conf or in ael
14:14.38stmaherextensions.conf
14:14.41Kobazaw
14:14.42jkroonit shouldn't (cannot, I think) cause what I'm seeing in terms of the call cut-offs.
14:15.18[TK]D-Fenderstmaher: Set a counter to 0 at the start of your menu.  On t/i, increment the counter and then check if its too big.  If not jump up and repeat the menu
14:15.32ManxPower-work[TK]D-Fender: Today is Mondat^noob
14:15.38ManxPower-workand Monday^noob
14:15.47Kobazheh
14:15.55stmaher[TK]D-Fender thanks.. looking for some syntax for example
14:16.14[TK]D-Fenderstmaher: core show application gotoif
14:16.20[TK]D-Fenderstmaher: core show application set
14:16.27stmaherthanks
14:16.34Kobaz1,set(attempts=2)   n,gotoif($[${attempts} <= 0],done)   n,Set(attempts=$[$attempts - 1])    n,dosomething   done,hangup()
14:16.37[TK]D-Fenderstmaher: And go read the CHANNELVARIABLES doc
14:16.38Kobazsomething like that
14:16.50Kobazexcept the gotoif syntax might be wrong
14:17.00Kobazi haven't done raw extensions.conf in a while
14:17.25stmaherThank you all
14:19.01Kobazin ael, it's much more straightforward
14:19.05Kobazattempts=2; while (${attempts} > 0) { attempts = ${attempts} - 1; dostuff; }  hangup();
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14:19.40[TK]D-FenderKobaz: virtually the same
14:20.17stmaherael does look very c(ish)
14:20.24_cgc[TK]D-Fender: http://pastebin.ca/1746904 <--- some of my sip.conf and extensions.conf, and I am only masking my IP, username, password and mobile number as I am not posting them on the internet
14:20.28stmahermight take that approach when we upgrade :-)
14:20.28stmaherthanks
14:20.36[TK]D-Fenderstmaher: Wouldn't advise
14:20.45stmaherwhys that?
14:21.16Kobaz[TK]D-Fender: virtually, but much easier to maintain, no line numbers
14:21.33Kobazstmaher: tk fender is against the march of progress :P
14:21.49stmaherLOL
14:21.53stmaherI dont want to start a channel war..
14:22.01stmaherbut it does look handy
14:22.12Kobazstmaher: ael used to have all kinds of translation problems, so, previously it was pretty much an experimental extension
14:22.15stmaherit took me a while to get used to the dialplan of extensions.conf
14:22.18[TK]D-FenderKobaz: AEL isn't progress.  Its a trek SIDEWAYS which can only lead to more problems and limitations
14:22.42Kobazme personally... i haven't run into any translation bugs in like, more than a year
14:22.45_cgc[TK]D-Fender: all the macro trunkdial does is play a sound and dial the arg1
14:22.52ManxPower-workAEL is a poor way to learn Asterisk.
14:22.54Kobazand i've been able to do anything that i have wanted to do in ael without problem
14:22.55[TK]D-Fender_cgc: What do you have forwarded to *?
14:23.09KobazManxPower-work: i think it greatly speeds up learning
14:23.30ManxPower-workKobaz: I disagree.  There is so little docs and examples of AEL it makes it hard for noobs.
14:23.32KobazManxPower-work: my coworker picked up dialplan coding in a day with ael... he was like wtf? when i showed him extensions.conf
14:23.35ManxPower-workI love AEL, BTW.
14:23.37drmessanoSo does users.conf :/
14:23.58jkroonhmm, this is messed up.  these messages (which I previously thought was funny):  format_wav.c: Unable to set write file size co-incide EXACTLY with the end-time of the cut call.
14:24.10KobazManxPower-work: there's examples for all the major constructs of ael/ael2 on the voip wiki
14:24.16ManxPower-workThe other issue is that if you don't understand extensions.conf you won't understand WHY some times are the way they are in AEL.
14:24.24[TK]D-Fender[09:23]<Kobaz>ManxPower-work: i think it greatly speeds up learning <- considering iffy docs, and a marginal user base.... I tend to differ
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14:25.04Kobazextensions.conf == BASIC... which, I don't know about you, but people moved away from BASIC style programming a long time ago (except for legacy apps)
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14:25.33_cgc[TK]D-Fender: i'm dialing out from * over the sip trunk to a sip provider
14:25.43Kobazstructured programming has been around for ever, which is why I think ael speeds up learning, because it's generally the same as all other modern languages in principal
14:26.01ManxPower-workKobaz: you are learning AEL, not Asterisk.
14:26.03[TK]D-FenderKobaz: And AEL is a BASIC COMPILER.  Congratulations on being more limited to something you haven't bothered learning yet.. and hope you don't run into problems
14:26.09drmessanoThere's like 5 people using AEL.. 2 of them are here, the other 3 are trying to figure out how to make that thing happen again that happened when they dropped those two big rocks together that they were carrying
14:26.36stmaherIm sorry i brought this up :-)
14:26.46KobazManxPower-work: i've never run into problems where something worked the way it shouldn't have because it was in ael, or because asterisk translated it wrong
14:26.56KobazManxPower-work: not saying that someone wouldn't, but from my experience it hasn't happened
14:27.10ManxPower-workKobaz: testvar=*;
14:27.22Kobazuse Set() instead
14:27.38Kobazyou should only use a=b for straight numeric assignments
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14:27.51ManxPower-workKobaz: Of course, but if you don't understand how extensions.conf works you would not understand why you would need Set
14:27.59Kobaztrue
14:28.07jkroonhmm yes, the cut offs seems to co-incide with those unable to set write file size messages.
14:28.33ManxPower-workYou also need to understand extensions.conf in order to debug your AEL script, since the AEL script is translated INTO extensions.conf format at load time.
14:29.05Kobaznot necessarily, it's pretty easy to throw in noop's and see where code is, without needing line number mental mapping
14:29.25Kobazokay, i agree it's useful to also know extensions.conf
14:29.31Kobazi never said it wasn't
14:29.32ManxPower-workPersonally, I use AEL for virtually everything I write.  I love AEL.  I am not under the wishful thinking cloud thinking it's easier for n00bs.
14:29.39Kobazheh
14:29.41Kobazk
14:30.07Kobazanyways, i prefer AGI anyway :)
14:30.27drmessanoThat's redundant and now you're just trying to be elitist
14:30.39Kobazredundant?
14:30.49ManxPower-workI usually use a mix of extensions.conf, extensions.ael and AGIs.
14:30.50drmessanoanyways, I prefer AGI anyway
14:31.07Kobazoh
14:31.08Kobazmy phrase
14:31.13Kobazi thought the context was redundant
14:31.32drmessanoMaybe you should try english before AEL.. Just sayin
14:31.35Kobazheh
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14:31.42jkrooni wonder ... btw, if anybody asks, CONNTRACK_SIP in the kernel is broken.
14:32.00drmessanoCONNTRACK_SIP is tthe wrong way to go
14:32.42voipmonkoh wow
14:33.20voipmonki must have been under a rock - there is a such thing?
14:33.21[TK]D-Fenderjkroon: Would you like a new shovel?  Something wider perhaps?
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14:34.10jkroon[TK]D-Fender, actually yes :)  but no, the CONNTRACK issue is something else I picked up whilst trying to troble-shoot something else, just noticed it's active on this box.
14:34.19drmessanoI actually avoid AEL and extensions.conf altogether.. I have some AGIs that run in .NET and I basically run Asterisk from a Vista box via Gig-E crossover like a brick on the gas pedal and rope on the steering wheel
14:34.22jkroonwondering whether it might be what's causing my issue now.
14:34.58Kobazwow
14:34.58Kobazaughh
14:35.01Kobazthis is really bad
14:35.20drmessanoThis works rather well except needing to take down the system every 30 days for Windows updates
14:35.45Kobazi had asterisk running on a box with a t1.  it would accept the call, and play tracks... everything looks perfect on the console and logs... yet no audio was passing through
14:35.52Kobazi restarted asterisk and now it works fine
14:36.01drmessanoKobaz: Sounds like an AEL problem
14:36.04Kobazhaha
14:36.24Kobaz<PROTECTED>
14:36.24Kobaz<PROTECTED>
14:36.28Kobazthis is agi
14:36.41Kobazno audio whatsoever when it was playing that
14:37.14Kobazno idea... i can't even debug it since there's no other information
14:37.27drmessanoMaybe you need to upgrade your PPPROSS stack
14:38.13Kobazthe what what?
14:38.17drmessanoPHP, Python, Perl, Ruby Or Some Shit <-- The complete "How to make life complicated as hell" suite
14:38.41drmessanoThats the answer to anything..
14:39.01[TK]D-FenderKobaz: Nothing to debug there
14:39.04drmessano"This site is running like crap, wonder what it is written in..."
14:39.07Kobaz[TK]D-Fender: i know
14:39.14drmessano"PPPROSS"
14:39.23drmessano"Ah.."
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14:40.52_cgc[TK]D-Fender: if it helps, when i phone over the trunk, I cannot even hear the phone ring
14:41.06Kobaz_cgc: huh?
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14:41.33jkroonok, issue is unrelated, the warning comes due to update_header() in format_wav.c, not causing it.
14:41.55ManxPower-workBack in MY day we leaned Asterisk for several months before having the hubris to try installing it on a production system.  Too bad the young whippersnappers today don't do that.
14:42.09[TK]D-Fender_cgc: Could be they don't send progress, and I don't see an answer to my previous question.
14:42.13KobazManxPower-work: well that's always a good idea
14:42.29|Rain|anyone have any debugging tips for asterisk 1.4.x spewing 'channel.c: Exceptionally long voice queue length queuing to IAX2/<blah>' for pretty much all active IAX2 calls?
14:42.31KobazManxPower-work: really it takes about a year or more to really get into asterisk
14:42.50Kobaz|Rain|: deadlocks would cause that
14:43.03Kobazi'm sure there's other possible causes too
14:43.06_cgc[TK]D-Fender: what to you mean forwarded to *?, I'm dial out
14:43.28|Rain|I suspect it's a deadlock, but it's difficult to reproduce and hard to debug a live system
14:44.07Kobaz|Rain|: welcome to the club
14:44.11|Rain|I have segfaults relating to frame corruption that I've been trying to debug, too :/
14:44.28|Rain|getting close to downgrading
14:44.34Kobazwhat version?
14:44.35ManxPower-work|Rain|: make sure you are running the latest 1.4.x
14:44.45|Rain|I'm using 1.4.28
14:44.53KobazManxPower-work: that's not always the best idea
14:44.54ManxPower-work|Rain|: is that the latest?
14:45.14drmessanoAvoiding 1.4 is a good idea :P
14:45.15|Rain|it is
14:45.15ManxPower-workKobaz: I agree with regards to 1.6.1/1.6.2 and maybe even 1.6.0, but not 1.4
14:45.33KobazManxPower-work: i've had to downgrade numerous times in the 1.4 tree because stuff just kept crashing
14:45.37Kobazin 1.6 too
14:45.37|Rain|drmessano: yeah, I have a non-production box testing 1.6.2.0
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14:46.25ManxPower-workKobaz: That's just typical Asterisk releases.
14:46.26jtexter3Is it possible to whisper using app_meetme or app_confbridge?
14:46.50ManxPower-workjtexter3: does "core show application meetme" or "core show application confbridge" tell you that you can?
14:47.06ManxPower-workis app_confbridge new to 1.6.x?
14:47.10Kobazyes
14:47.41Kobazit uses native bridging instead of dahdi/zapotel
14:47.56ManxPower-workBut what does it use for audio mixing?
14:48.03Kobazthat i don't know
14:48.16drmessanoManxPower-work: It handles that
14:48.21drmessanothat was the idea
14:49.15ManxPower-workdrmessano: I asked because app_meetme does not use Zaptel/DAHDI to bridge the channels.
14:49.25ManxPower-workIt uses it for audio mixing at least.
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14:49.34drmessanoCorrect
14:49.37drmessanoThats all it uses it for
14:49.47drmessanoapp_confbridge is all your call logic and your mixing
14:49.52ManxPower-workSo I was trying to get Kobaz to actually make a statement that is true.
14:50.11drmessanoheh
14:50.21Kobaz?
14:50.35ManxPower-work(9:47:41 AM) Kobaz: it uses native bridging instead of dahdi/zapotel  <--- WRONG WRONG WRONG
14:51.07Kobazoh, well... that's what i remembered reading
14:51.25Kobazof all the things i've lost
14:51.27drmessanoI never seen that stated
14:51.30Kobazi miss my mind the most
14:51.59Kobazdrmessano: no, i remembered wrong
14:52.00drmessanoKobaz: Yes, and we can't debug because you're using AEL
14:52.08drmessanoKobaz: +1
14:52.16Kobazagi
14:52.34drmessanoPPPROSS, whatever
14:52.52Kobazwhat are you trying to debug?
14:52.59drmessanoYour statement
14:53.04Kobazwhich one
14:53.15drmessanoYou've forgotten already?
14:53.25Kobazmy t1 problem?
14:53.26drmessanoThe one where you said you like eating bananas naked in the park
14:53.35drmessanoYou dont remember that?
14:53.38Kobazheh
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14:55.06jo8330Morning all.  I have a 1-800 number setup but I'm finding that Asterisk does not get caller ID information.  Is that usual that telco doesn't forward caller ID information for calls received through a 1-800 number?
14:55.12jo8330just wondering what other people's experiences have been
14:55.13drmessanoSo who is gonna write the voicemail notification extension for google chrome?
14:55.23Kobazjo8330: depends... ask your provider
14:57.02[TK]D-Fenderjo8330: Where do we see that they're not delivering CID?  Where are you even telling us what your calls are being deliverd OVER?
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14:59.14jo8330bell T1 PRI
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15:00.50[TK]D-Fenderjo8330: and where is the call to debug?
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15:09.35_cgc[TK]D-Fender: http://pastebin.ca/1746968 <--- more debug info, hope this helps a bit more
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15:12.42jo8330[TK]D-Fender: i don't see much to debug, telco doesn't give me callerid digits. i'll have to wait to hear back
15:12.47_cgcwould line 448 be my problem saying 'Our prefcodec: 0x0 (nothing)'?
15:13.14[TK]D-Fenderjo8330: Where do I see you enabling any debug?  Or showing me any of a call at all?
15:13.42jo8330ok ill show you, but i can tell there's nothing useful.
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15:14.21_cgcjo8330: if your asking for their help shouldn't you be letting them decide whats useful?
15:14.37[TK]D-Fenderjo8330: And you HAVE to be able to get CID on an 800#.  You're PAYING for the call, they can't be masking it.
15:14.49jo8330no i was just asking what people's experience has been.
15:15.29[TK]D-Fenderjo8330: My experience has been that people come in here not knowing what they are doing and having preconceived ideas that there isn't more that can be seem all the while not showing us whats actually happening.
15:15.48[TK]D-Fenderjo8330: So go show me a call with complete debug
15:15.53jo8330http://pastebin.ca/1746979
15:17.07[TK]D-Fenderjo8330: that is nothing... where the hell is the PRI DEBUG?
15:17.26[TK]D-Fenderjo8330: And you're masking #'s, and I don't see your dialplan or configs.
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15:17.53jo8330ok gimme a min
15:22.13voipmonkline 11 looks good
15:22.26voipmonkline 31 is what you're talking about, yes?
15:24.13Kobazack
15:24.19Kobazsangoma's website is deaded
15:24.38jo8330http://pastebin.ca/1746979
15:24.57jo8330dialplan is simple, just AGI call to a python script that plays a welcome audio file
15:25.30[TK]D-Fenderjo8330: Where is the NEW pastebin?
15:25.46jo8330that's it, i replaced the old one
15:25.57[TK]D-Fenderjo8330: NO
15:26.02[TK]D-Fenderjo8330: it gets a new #
15:26.08coppiceKobaz: quick. start some rumours, and profit from their stock price
15:26.13[TK]D-Fenderfacepalms
15:26.46Kobazcoppice: heh
15:26.55Kobazis sangoma public?
15:26.55jo8330lol. ok http://pastebin.ca/1747005
15:27.20Kobazit seems so
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15:27.42Kobazhttp://www.google.com/finance?q=CVE%3ASTC
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15:29.11Skeeter-anyone got some good doc. for mysql along with asterisk??
15:29.16[TK]D-Fenderjo8330: is this a call where you dialed the 800# yourself?
15:29.28[TK]D-FenderSkeeter-: in the tarball
15:29.32[TK]D-FenderSkeeter-: and the BOOK
15:29.33jo8330yes
15:29.34[TK]D-Fender~book
15:29.35infobot[~book] Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF at http://www.asteriskdocs.org --- HTML at http://astbook.asteriskdocs.org or see ~buybook
15:29.47Skeeter-thanks
15:30.12jo8330[TK]D-Fender: it's a seperate phone, not a line on that T1.  If I make the same call to the equivalent number, then I get CID info as expected
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15:30.58[TK]D-Fenderjo8330: Is your 800# initially landing at your telco, or via 3rd party?
15:31.05jo8330telco
15:31.18[TK]D-Fenderjo8330: PB your configs
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15:34.06jo8330ok, it's pretty much defaults other than the T1 config lines. sec
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15:35.51[TK]D-Fenderjo8330: Less talk, more show...
15:36.54bpgoldsb`asterisk -rvv` fails with 'Unable to connect to remote asterisk (does /var/run/asterisk/asterisk.ctl exist?)'.  It does exist, and the asterisk user can read/write to it.  Any ideas why it won't connect?
15:37.04jo8330lol
15:37.15jo8330i'd hug you if i could, you're funny.
15:37.17jo8330http://pastebin.ca/1747017
15:37.43jo8330everything else is default OOB asterisk 1.6.2.0
15:37.45Kobazbpgoldsb: ps ax | grep asterisk  (is asterisk running?
15:37.46jo8330digium TE122
15:38.24beekThis is lovely... one way audio on a PRI connection.
15:38.28bpgoldsbKobaz: Yep  I'm in the process of checking out the arguements the Debian init script is passing to make sure that isn't the issue
15:38.46beektelco <-PRI-> Asterisk <-PRI-> Iwatsu Legacy system.
15:38.50Kobazbpgoldsb: is it running?.. paste ps output
15:39.10bpgoldsbKobaz: root     28483  0.0  0.1   6616  1872 ?        D    19:59   0:00 /usr/sbin/asterisk -f -F -g -vvv -p -U asterisk -vvvg -c
15:39.21Kobazokay so it's running as user asterisk
15:39.30Kobazls -al  /var/run/asterisk/asterisk.ctl
15:39.34beekor telco <-PRI-> Asterisk <-PRI-> telco <-> Answering service.  They hear us, we don't hear them.
15:39.42bpgoldsbKobaz: srwxr-xr-x 1 asterisk asterisk 0 2010-01-11 10:36 /var/run/asterisk/asterisk.ctl
15:39.54Kobazokay, and what user are you running asterisk -rx as?
15:39.59bpgoldsbroot.
15:40.06Kobazinteresting
15:40.10bpgoldsbI agree :)
15:41.16Kobazwhy are you using -f and -F
15:41.27Kobazthey are opposites of each other
15:42.41bpgoldsbI actually turned that off, I was wondering the same thing
15:43.09bpgoldsbBut oddly enough, after turning that off, Asterisk failed to launch from safe_asterisk
15:43.23bpgoldsbI'll muck around some more on my own for now.  It's probably something on my end.
15:43.24somansoman
15:44.09Kobazbpgoldsb: oh, and don't use -p either.. it's a recepie for problems
15:44.57Kobazbpgoldsb: safe_asterisk needs no-forking... since it runs it as a foreground process and will restart it if it dies
15:45.16Kobazbpgoldsb: so use either -f or -F, but not both... safe_asterisk is gonna need -f
15:45.20bpgoldsbKobaz: I was suspicious of them.  I'm using the debian default arguements.  Whereas, in the past, I've always built from source and used the Digium defaults
15:45.34Kobazyeah, i always build from source
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15:47.55Kobazbpgoldsb: -p has a tendency to make asterisk suck up 100% cpu randomly
15:48.15bpgoldsbSo where does safe_asterisk build it's list of arguements from?
15:48.23[TK]D-Fenderjo8330: Ok, I'd try setting "immediate=no" explicitly, and "callerid=asreceived" (though the latter should be implicit), and definitely call up Bell on this
15:48.28Kobazprobably /etc/init.d/asterisk
15:49.12tzafrirKobaz, also depending on your kernel
15:49.21tzafrirIIRC it's mostly safe as of 2.6.25
15:49.49tzafriryou'd have to try there very hard to get your system hang
15:50.38Kobaztzafrir: it's killed me in >= 2.6.27
15:51.22Kobazi asked around in -dev, and the concensus was  "don't use it"
15:52.39kannanhello, in cases on "got SIP response 400 Bad request", is it invariable the asterisk server config at fault?
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15:55.21[TK]D-Fenderkannan: No.  Perhaps you should SHOW US the complete communication.
15:55.27bpgoldsbHmm, well with that fixed, now I have to figure out why Asterisk can't find all it's XML doc info
15:55.47p3nguin"its"
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15:55.53jo8330[TK]D-Fender: thanks. Appreciate your investigation. i'll try that out and see what happens, but indeed I'll definitely call Bell
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15:57.52p3nguinWhy do people have such a hard time with possessive pronouns?  They aren't new; they were taught in school.
15:58.18bpgoldsbp3nguin: I failed English.  It's why I went to my safety-subject of Engineering.
15:58.44p3nguininteresting concept
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15:59.29fenrus_it's not that easy if you dont speak english every day :)
15:59.31bpgoldsbI have a feeling Asterisk developers were in a similiar situation with error messages like: 'xmldoc.c: Counldn't find function CHANNEL in XML documentat'
15:59.55p3nguinThose are just horrible typos.
15:59.58shamelessn00bhurr
16:00.13shamelessn00bfinally managed to modify the applicaion mp3player
16:00.26p3nguinI'm sure the person didn't really think the word was "Counldn't"
16:00.39shamelessn00bnow whenever the user presses a key instead of simply exiting and moving to the next line in dialplan
16:00.47shamelessn00bit jumps to the specified context
16:01.02p3nguinThat didn't happen before?
16:01.10shamelessn00bno
16:01.21shamelessn00bI added a few lines of code in the .c file
16:01.24voipmonkshamelessn00b!
16:01.33shamelessn00bhey voipmonk sup
16:01.37somanHi, I am using the asterisk 1.6 with TE121 card installed... I am getting the error  WARNING[15106]: chan_dahdi.c:11826 pri_dchannel: PRI Error on span 0: We think we're the CPE, but they think they're the CPE too.   what could be the problem
16:01.59[TK]D-Fendersoman: Both ends are trying to act like CPE.  So STOP :p
16:02.00voipmonkthe sky the ceilin' how ya feelin'?
16:02.06coppicesoman: how much clearer so you want it stated?
16:02.08shamelessn00bboth ends of the PRI are configured as master
16:02.26shamelessn00bboth ends are providing the clock
16:02.49coppicethat has nothing to do with who provides the clock
16:02.53voipmonkthere can be only one master... the one with the clock
16:03.00voipmonk-l
16:03.13soman<[TK]D-Fender>: how to do that
16:03.15voipmonkthats not always true
16:03.24voipmonkjust cuz u have a big clock doesnt mean anything
16:04.00shamelessn00bvoipmonk I modified the source of the application mp3player ^^
16:04.09voipmonki noticed...
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16:04.38shamelessn00band only cuz I was having issues with the same old problem
16:04.46shamelessn00bmusiconhold and meetme
16:05.01shamelessn00bthe streams kept on stopping at randiom
16:06.23[TK]D-Fendersoman: vi chan_dahdi.conf
16:07.04soman<[TK]D-Fender>: yes, signalling is set to pri_cpe
16:07.34shamelessn00banyone used sox to downsample 44 k wav files to 8 k mp3
16:08.05[TK]D-Fendersoman: And what are you connecting it to?
16:08.16Naikrovek8k mp3?  no why would you do that
16:08.24[TK]D-Fendershamelessn00b: WTF are you transcoding TO MP3 for?
16:08.39_cgcshamelessn00b: isn't it illegal to use mp3 without buying a license?
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16:08.49soman<[TK]D-Fender>: to a PRI cable
16:08.50shamelessn00bsongs
16:09.01shamelessn00b[TK]D-Fender: songs
16:09.08[TK]D-Fendershamelessn00b: Thats the interpretation of the sound.  I'm asking about the FORMAT
16:09.19Naikrovekshamelessn00b: encode them to 8k wav.  mp3 sounds like ass at that sample rate
16:09.19ManxPower-workshamelessn00b: transcode them to .wav
16:09.58voipmonkNaikrovek: why do I think about Area51 when I see your name
16:10.04voipmonkor Aliens
16:10.07Naikrovekor .ogg if you're hell bent on using some compressed audio.  i recommend .wav though
16:10.08shamelessn00bactually I have to stream them and cant find a streamer for wav files
16:10.36Naikrovekvoipmonk: got me.  if you figure it out, let me know.  i'm dying to fell cool(er)
16:10.37ManxPower-workshamelessn00b: then don't stream them in Asterisk
16:10.49shamelessn00bthey sound pretty decent actually
16:10.58shamelessn00beven better than wav
16:10.58voipmonkalienware?
16:11.11Naikrovekmpg123 can stream them and convert them to proper format and samplerate at the same tiem
16:11.16ManxPower-workshamelessn00b: asterisk will just transcode the audio anyway
16:11.19shamelessn00bI calculated the MOS values
16:11.23bmoracashamelessn00b, that comment right there shows that you don't know much about voice codecs
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16:11.49Naikrovek"even better than wav" haha
16:12.01Naikrovekbmoraca: yes, that speaks volumes
16:12.02shamelessn00b:P
16:12.19coppicecalculating MOS values sounds very marketing dept :-)
16:12.21Naikrovekshamelessn00b: wav is uncompressed, unmolested audio.  raw audio
16:13.02Naikrovekyou can change the sample rate, and sample size in a wav file, and lose data, but it's still uncompressed
16:13.04bmoracaNaikrovek, not quite unmolested...PCM isn't exact if you sample it at 8000hz using 8 bits, as telephones do
16:13.12shamelessn00bNaikrovek: but how do I stream uncompressed 44k 16 bit wav files, any idea?
16:13.40shamelessn00bwhen I already know all that bandwidth is going to be wasted anyways
16:13.52bmoracashamelessn00b, how are you trying to stream them?  there are a hundred ways...windows media services is one example
16:14.07shamelessn00bwhy should I stream in 44k
16:14.17shamelessn00bwhen its already going to get downsampled at 8k
16:14.22[TK]D-Fendershamelessn00b: Where are they being streamed from?
16:14.35shamelessn00bfrom a streaming server
16:14.39shamelessn00bIm using icecast
16:14.42drmessanolol
16:14.52bmoracashamelessn00b, why are you asking this in an asterisk channel?
16:14.53[TK]D-Fendershamelessn00b: WHERE THE FUCKING HELL IS IT RELATIVE TO YOUR DAMN SERVER?
16:14.57bmoracacheck #icecast
16:15.05shamelessn00bwhat
16:15.16shamelessn00bIm not asking how to fkin stream audio into asterisk
16:15.26[TK]D-Fendersense more people with serious comprehension issues.
16:15.26shamelessn00bI've already done that part
16:15.44drmessanoOh god... now we're compressing in icecast, and transcoding from the icecast stream to Asterisk
16:15.59shamelessn00bfacepalms
16:16.04[TK]D-Fenderdrmessano: Don't forget the extra #2 coffee filter...
16:16.20shamelessn00bI'm using sox to downsample and convert wav into mp3
16:16.23shamelessn00bthen streaming
16:16.29drmessanoWHY NOT JUST STREAM THE SOUND OF A FRIDGE CYCLING ON AND OFF????  Erm, sorry
16:16.30shamelessn00band asterisk is playing the stream as is
16:16.46drmessanoAsterisk isnt playing it "as-is"
16:16.58shamelessn00bmpg123 spits the stream on stdout
16:16.59theharrussellb: i have had to block your travel updates on friendface.. they piss me off. lol *jealous*
16:17.09shamelessn00bof that channel
16:17.16drmessanoi dont know of ANY phone that supports MP3
16:17.27shamelessn00bas raw
16:17.34drmessanoSo therefore, you're transcoding
16:17.39bmoracashamelessn00b, http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=sox convert 44khz to 8khz first link
16:18.08drmessanoWAV ---> MP3 ---> Phone's native format
16:18.27drmessanoI guess "codec" would be more appropriate
16:18.47russellbthehar: you blocked me?  :'-(
16:19.02theharrussellb: no no.. i blocked that app you use for your travels on my newsfeed
16:19.05coppicedrmessano: or dec, since your signal only goes one way
16:19.16thehari could never block teh russellb
16:19.17theharwoof
16:19.19drmessanoTrue
16:19.41russellbthehar: <3 ... tripit is pretty nice for organizing travel plans, though.
16:19.57theharrussellb: hehe yes yes however it reminds me of where i'm not going
16:20.20drmessanoWhy not get a nice ESATA drive, load that bad boy up with all your Miley Cyrus tunes, hook it up to the PBX, and let it roll
16:21.01[TK]D-Fenderdrmessano: Royalties ;)
16:21.14[TK]D-Fenderlitigates
16:21.34coppiceESATA sounds perfect for Miley Cyrus. So easy to unplug and dispose of
16:21.41drmessano[TK]D-Fender: Unless that Icecast server is on Sealand, he's got that problem either way
16:22.58[TK]D-Fenderdrmessano: So far he never said WHAT music he was streaming.  AFAIK, Miley Cryrus hasn't released anything into the PD yet.... so he could be off the hook for other mystery stuff
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16:23.34coppicepeople should be hung for playing Miley Cyrus, even after copyright has expired
16:24.02drmessano[TK]D-Fender: For the sake of argument, I will assume he's got an icecast box loaded up with royalty free tunes he jams to.
16:24.11drmessanoROLLS EYES SO FAR BACK INTO HEAD BRAIN HURTS
16:24.12drmessanoErm, sorry
16:24.55drmessanogoes off to smoke some banana peels
16:25.04casixis possible to monitor a parked call? or monitor the call after someone get this call out of parking?
16:26.02p3nguinshamelessn00b: If you're wanting to use it for MoH, I use "mpg123 -q -b 128 --preload 32 -r 8000 -f 2048 -m -s $streamurl" and it works perfectly.
16:26.34[TK]D-Fendercasix: Sure... call Monitor before picking up the call.
16:32.25_cgcmsg voipmonk have you heard of the sound for 1 side of a outbound sip call not working before?
16:33.31p3nguinhmm
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16:37.07shamelessn00bp3nguin: no I've had enough of MoH
16:37.09shamelessn00blol
16:37.22shamelessn00bMoH + MeetMe = epic fail
16:37.28p3nguinWhat other reason would a person stream mp3s onto Asterisk?
16:37.54murraytmis there a catch to getting custom date formats to work with say.conf mode=new ?  SayUnixTime(,CST,ABd 'digits/at' IMp) doesn't play anything at all if mode=new but works as expected if mode=old.
16:37.58shamelessn00bcuz apparently wav doesnt sound as good as mp3s do on cell phones
16:38.07shamelessn00bfor some odd reason that I fail to understand
16:38.32p3nguinWhat is the usage of putting the music onto a cell phone?
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16:38.44shamelessn00bIm playing the same songs using the playback app in wav format in a seperate context
16:38.47casix[TK]D-Fender: when I try it the monitor stops just after picking up the call. This is a piece of the code: http://pastebin.com/m282cf556
16:39.01shamelessn00bp3nguin: it makes $$$
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16:39.37p3nguinI still don't get it.  You just have a music extension?  People call your number and listen to music?  That's all?
16:39.39shamelessn00bdunno, we have many users dialing into our boxes that wanna call and listen to music on cell phones
16:39.41shamelessn00blol
16:40.04p3nguinOn a cell phone, nevertheless.
16:40.04shamelessn00bthey can get lyrics
16:40.09[TK]D-Fendercasix: Then dial a non-rebridging local channel to do the pickup then.
16:40.24shamelessn00bor set the songs as thier ringtones or ringbacktones
16:40.26shamelessn00betc etc
16:40.41shamelessn00bthen we are offering song dedications
16:40.44shamelessn00band kareoke
16:40.49shamelessn00bstuff like that
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16:44.30casix[TK]D-Fender: ok, i'll try. Do you know how to play a dynamic announcement to the called before bridge the call? I'm try to do it with the G option of dial and then play the announcement and join the calls parking one and getting it from the other. Any best solution? oh and monitor the final conversation
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16:45.33[TK]D-Fendercasix: Go try stuff and show us a failure
16:46.55casix[TK]D-Fender: ok thx :)
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17:18.15Geminizerhello... can a T1 support 50 concurrent calls ?
17:18.23[TK]D-FenderGeminizer: No
17:18.25Naikrovekvoice t1: no
17:18.42Naikrovekdata t1: yes, if G729 and an IAX2 trunk is used
17:18.44[TK]D-FenderGeminizer: Non-data, that is
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17:19.00Geminizerwhat is the upper bound for T1, and what would need to be in place for supporting 50 calls?
17:19.14Naikrovekyou can get like 48 G729 calls over a SIP "trunk"
17:19.14[TK]D-FenderGeminizer: Perhaps you should mention what you putting OVER it.
17:19.47[TK]D-Fender1544/33
17:20.09[TK]D-FenderAssuming best case scenario... which never happens
17:20.10Naikroveki thought 32
17:20.51Naikrovekdata T1 + G729 + IAX2 trunk = (about) 140 simultaneous calls
17:21.03Naikrovekunfortunately IAX2 trunks to providers aren't common
17:21.10Geminizerok... so even if a SIP trunk is being used, no change in carrier alone can increase the capacity?
17:21.25Naikrovekyou're limited to the amount of data a T1 can carry
17:21.36[TK]D-FenderNaikrovek: Int heory... have you seen IAX2 trunking survivability stats? ;)
17:21.47Naikrovek[TK]D-Fender: haven't
17:22.10[TK]D-FenderNaikrovek: the Titanic had a high passenger capacity too ;)
17:22.31GeminizerSo, for ulaw and a SIP trunk, what would be a "comfortable" capacity?
17:22.40Naikrovek17 calls
17:22.52coppice[TK]D-Fender: icebergs pass well above the fibres
17:23.04Geminizerwow... ok, thanks
17:23.57Naikroveka T1 is not a lot of data
17:24.59[TK]D-FenderAs compared to other mediums
17:25.04Naikrovekcorrect
17:25.10Naikrovekwish i could get some other mediums in here
17:25.21Naikrovekin my place of employment, i mean
17:25.43Naikrovekgoing to have to get something else, and leave phone on the T1
17:25.58Naikrovekstupid provider has apparently not billed us for that T1 for 18 months, i'm told
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17:32.38Naikrovekso rather than upgrade that connection i wanna get another and put everythign but the phone on it
17:33.51p3nguinWhere did that 33 (or 32) value come from to calculate the number of calls?  I mean, what does that value represent?
17:36.24[TK]D-Fenderp3nguin: Number of simultaneous calls.  What have you missed?
17:36.36p3nguinUh, no.
17:37.03p3nguinIf 1544/33 = number of simul.calls, then 33 does not equal the number of simul. calls.
17:37.16sbrathIs the only way to get SRTP in Asterisk to use the SVN asterisk-srtp trunk ?
17:37.26p3nguinSo what does the 33 value represent?
17:37.59_cgc[TK]D-Fender: i fixed my problem with the audio not working 1 way, it was that the audio was coming from a different IP address and was being blocked coming in on ports 10000-20000 :)
17:38.19[TK]D-Fender_cgc: SMRT
17:38.28_cgcthanks for your help :)
17:38.36[TK]D-Fenderp3nguin: kbps/call... seriously...
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17:41.53p3nguinIf the required bandwidth of a G.729 call is 31.2 Kbps, how did you arrive at 33?  Is this some arbitrary number that includes overhead or what?  You're not being complete, and you're acting like I'm supposed to be psychic and know what you mean.
17:43.27[TK]D-Fenderp3nguin: I rounded up a tad
17:43.47p3nguinFor the purpose of overhead, or just for the heck of it?
17:45.04p3nguinHow do we factor in SIP/RTP and/or IAX2 (with and without trunking) when trying to calculate the number of simultaneous calls?
17:45.20p3nguinMaybe someone made a chart.
17:46.12Tim_Toadythere are some charts, astricon 2009 "IAX to carrirers" presentation
17:46.19p3nguinUnless the bandwidth chart I use is all-inclusive... which I don't think it is.
17:46.22Tim_Toadycomparing sip and iax peers
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17:48.28raden_workthere any disadvantage to the unlocked PAP2T's  ?
17:48.33*** join/#asterisk Katty (n=User@adsl-70-253-169-127.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net)
17:48.57Tim_Toadyapart from being free to use it?
17:49.29Kattyhi.
17:49.33Kattymy asterisk does not work /at all/
17:49.33[TK]D-Fenderraden_work: if they were previously unlocked they might try to contact the provisioner again and relock
17:49.34Kattyhow to fix pls.
17:49.51[TK]D-FenderKatty: rm -r....awww fukkit
17:49.54raden_work[TK]D-Fender, thank
17:49.56raden_workyou
17:50.04Kattyrm -r /
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17:50.36Geminizernah... rm -rf /
17:50.53coppice[TK]D-Fender: I guess the locking scheme is the only bit they ever bothered to properly debug
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17:52.04Kattyhow to use rm????'
17:52.09Kattyi do not know linux
17:52.32Zhad[TK]D-Fender: IIRC, you can fix it so that it doesn't.
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17:52.50Kattyhi tony
17:52.58ZhadThere is a Yahoo Groups group with lots of info about it.
17:53.20Zhadtook his PAP2s out of service a long time ago. and they were never locked in the first place.
17:54.04carrarY*A*W*N
17:55.44Naikrovekofftopic: anyone have a canon imagerunner 210
17:56.05Kattyi don't
17:56.05p3nguinI have a canon, but it doesn't deal with images.  :)
17:56.15Naikrovekmine doesn't either - it's a photocopier
17:56.19Naikrovekwell
17:56.27Naikrovekmaybe that's the image in the "imagerunner" moniker
17:56.36Kattyi am familier with copiers
17:56.43Kattyi'm actually certified on 1 kyocera model
17:56.47Kattybut not canons.
17:56.48Naikrovekneat
17:56.51raden_work[TK]D-Fender, if you were running a ITP what would you use for POTS Adapaters ?
17:57.19[TK]D-FenderKatty: Using Kyrocera photocopiers certainly qualifies you as "certifiable" :p
17:57.22Naikroveki have an imagerunner and it's only got 67k page count, and it's giving me an error
17:57.53Naikrovekon phone with service folks
17:58.09Katty[TK]D-Fender: why don't you say something nice to me.
17:58.15Katty[TK]D-Fender: like, Katty you're such a lovely person!
17:58.20Katty[TK]D-Fender: or Katty! let's hug!
17:58.27ZenBSDiKatty, you a girl?
17:58.42raden_workZenBSDi, something like that
17:58.42Kattyno i'm a 50 year old male in a basement.
17:58.54p3nguinHEY!
17:58.59ZenBSDiprobably a gurl :p cross dressers :p
17:59.11Kattyhmm.
17:59.17Kattyi did wear one of ryan's hoodies once
17:59.27Kattyit's warm ^_^
17:59.41Kattyhi p3nguin
17:59.48p3nguinhello, katty
18:00.07Kattydo you have sunny skies up north?
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18:00.17p3nguinyeah
18:00.27p3nguinUp to 30 degrees, already.
18:00.28Katty:>>>
18:00.38Katty31F here, 22 with windchill
18:00.44Kattypressure is falling tho :< never a good sign.
18:01.17p3nguinI don't know if we'll keep the sun long enough to melt the snow, but it has been shining when the clouds aren't in the way.
18:01.45nnyso someone asked me if I could write a dialplan that could allow "seamless" transfers from desk phone to cell phone. Not looking for answers so much as opinions on if it can be done or not. By seamless I mean "press *X, cell phone rings, caller still attached to deskphone" press something else on cell or desk and call is now on cell
18:02.11nnyi know features.conf would allow me to inject the *x part
18:02.16p3nguinOf course it is possible.
18:02.35nnywell then I shall start trying to craft it
18:02.41Kattyit's your diaplan. you can do whatever you like.
18:02.50nnysweet! rick rolls for everyone!
18:02.52Kattyyou can feed the cats if you want.
18:03.16nnyheh I joke that it can make toast with a proper X11 or serial port setup
18:03.41Chesther"Press 1 for toast.  Press 2 for a bagel with cream cheese."
18:03.42nnyx10*
18:03.42ZenBSDimy $agi = new Asterisk::AGI; $Katty = $agi->get_data("is_it_a_boy_or_a_gurl",10000,1); return $Katty;
18:03.53Kattyyou can make toast
18:03.58Kattywhy not just run the eject command
18:04.05Kattyand rig something up to the cdrom drive gears
18:04.11nnyhehe
18:04.24nnyi read a story about a pc that did that in a server room somewhere
18:04.44nnyhttp://thedailywtf.com/Articles/ITAPPMONROBOT.aspx
18:04.44KattyZenBSDi: why does it matter?
18:05.12KattyZenBSDi: are you gender biased?
18:05.17ZenBSDiif($server =~ /PROBLEMS/) { die "$server has issues\n"; }
18:05.17KattyZenBSDi: ARE YOU SEXIST
18:05.27ZenBSDiO.o
18:05.32p3nguinHe wants to cyber you... maybe?
18:05.45nnyi put on my lineman's set and hat
18:05.52ZenBSDimy $wood = "needs pleasing"; bless($wood);
18:06.02hardwirenny: the one with two beer holders and giant crazy straws?
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18:06.10KattyZenBSDi: that is highly inappropriate.
18:06.11bpgoldsbHmm, was there a change between 1.6.1 and 1.6.2 that de-randomized SIP channel names?
18:06.27ZenBSDiSorry, I've been coding perl + asterisk::agi all weekend :p
18:06.31hardwirebpgoldsb: those are hashes, I thought
18:06.40hardwirein all versions
18:07.04p3nguin${UNIQUEID} is no longer unique?
18:07.04nnyhardwire: oh god no, beer can holders are so inappropriate
18:07.07bpgoldsbWell, my 1.6.2 install ation has SIP/116-0000000(1-5)
18:07.14nnyhardwire: this one has enough room for two handles of jack
18:07.18ZenBSDiI luv t3h * w /usr/bin/perl
18:07.34bpgoldsbOn the first few calls I made, they were sequential.  Hash, I'd expect to be non-sequential
18:08.03hardwirebpgoldsb: yeh.. I thought the hash of the index number + the SIP name = the channel name
18:08.19ZenBSDibpgoldsb, I've noticed that a few times too.. depending on how far apart the calls are the hash could be or won't be that sequential
18:08.36hardwireI haven't noticed that btw.. I am using 1.6.2 and getting hashes
18:08.57ZenBSDiI'm still on 1.4 :p
18:09.00bpgoldsbPerhaps my terms are messed up.  SIP/112-00000000... 00000000 is the channel or the index #?
18:09.16bpgoldsbI'm still on 1.2.2x :)
18:09.19ZenBSDiI need to setup 1.6 and start doing some kewl perls for 1.6 and ramps its up with memcached
18:09.22bpgoldsbThus why I'm deploying 1.6.2
18:09.46hardwirebpgoldsb: SIP/112-ABCDEFG would be the channel reference that is unique enough to query.
18:09.51Kobazin 1.6.x the channel suffix was changed to be incremental instead of randomly generated
18:10.01hardwireat least unique in the midst of all other calls at that time
18:10.12Kobazyeah, channel names can get reused
18:10.30Kobazit'll take a while to get a reused channel name with the new method though
18:10.36hardwireKobaz: I haven't noticed sequential names..  I'm using 1.6.2
18:10.37hardwireweird
18:10.52Kobazhardwire: oh hmm, it does that on mine
18:10.59Kobazwith sip anyway... iax is still random
18:11.09hardwireKobaz: weird indeed.. maybe you guys are missing the crypto modules :)
18:12.00Kobazanswered SIP/3030-000001e6
18:12.03Kobazanswered SIP/3007-000001e7
18:12.27hardwireyou have a lot of calls going
18:12.42Kobazit's always incrementing by one
18:13.08Kobaznot really a lot of calls
18:13.12Kobazone call an hour?
18:13.14Kobazit's a small office
18:13.16Kattythey're all from me
18:13.26hardwireerr.
18:13.27Kobazyeah, i know how much you love me :)
18:13.44hardwireSIP/ancwas-b5501f98 SIP/ancwas-086d42f0
18:13.44Kattyyep.
18:13.49hardwire1.6.2
18:13.55Kobazthis is on 1.6.0.20
18:14.28hardwire1.6.2.0~rc2-0.7616
18:14.29hardwireheh
18:14.53Kobazrc2
18:14.53Kobazheh
18:15.00Kobazi had a lot of problems wiht rc2
18:15.04Kobazodbc kept crashing
18:16.13Kobazall i want for christmas is a sta-ble asterisk... a sta-ble asterisk
18:16.20Kobazdo de do de do
18:16.24fenrus_:)
18:16.31hardwire1.2 is pretty stable
18:16.35Kobazyeah
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18:16.44Kobazthe problem is, i need quite a number of the features in 1.6
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18:16.48hardwireit lacks a fancy
18:17.07Kobazit sucks that 1.6.0 is going to be eol in a few months
18:17.08hardwireah.. my other machines are 1.6.2.0-0.7901
18:17.10Kattyit lacks fancy?
18:17.14Kattyput some racing stripes ont he side.
18:17.23hardwireKatty: get real, it's software.
18:17.27hardwireyou can't paint on a software
18:17.36hardwireis all about limits today
18:17.36Kobazthere needs to be a long-standing maintenance branch that's rock super damn solid
18:17.48ManxPower-workApparently you don't know Katty very well.
18:17.51hardwireKobaz: that would mean you'd pay for it.
18:18.07Kobazprobably
18:18.16fenrus_i'd paint my asterisk box if it made it rock solid.
18:18.27Kattygets real
18:18.34Kobazsome of the stuff in 1.6.2 is really awesome too
18:18.35hardwireKatty: nono.. don't get real
18:18.35KattyI R REAL KATTY NOW
18:18.43Kobazlike the dialplan Originiate(), and the mwi control
18:18.51carrarFor realz?
18:19.02Kobazfor mad reels yo
18:19.03hardwireKobaz: I'm a dahdi lover.
18:19.04hardwiresigh
18:19.32Kobazthey should have picked a better name for dahdi
18:19.32Kobazheh
18:19.56ChestherKobaz: 1.8 will be the next long-term-solid release.
18:19.59Kattyfor realzzzzzzz yo
18:20.04KobazChesther: heh
18:20.27Kobaz.0 is hardly ever all that great
18:20.38ChestherTrue.
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18:20.44[TK]D-Fenderfenrus_: Fill it with paint and it will be solid
18:20.45Katty.0 is a great number.
18:20.49Katty.0 spinach in dinner.
18:21.20ChestherThey talked about this at Astricon.  After getting some, um, spirited feedback on the numbering scheme for 1.6.x, they changed it again.
18:21.25[TK]D-Fender[13:19]<hardwire>Kobaz: I'm a dahdi lover. <- that's odd... someone once called me a mother-f.... something or other...
18:21.37hardwirea mahtheri fucker.
18:21.38hardwireerr..
18:21.40ChestherThere will be "standard" releases and "long term support releases".  The standard ones will live for a year or two.
18:21.40hardwireI said it.. sorry
18:21.48ChestherThe LTS ones, more like 4-5 years.
18:21.50hardwirebans self from channel for the day
18:21.51Kattyapplauds [TK]D-Fender
18:21.56KobazChesther: hmm, where's that written up?
18:22.12fenrus_http://www.asterisk.org/asterisk-versions
18:22.20leifmadsenKobaz: http://blogs.asterisk.org
18:22.32Kobazooooh
18:22.43leifmadsenyes, we do document this stuff :)
18:22.49Kobazwell
18:22.50Kobazyeah i know
18:22.56Kobazbut i saw the release chart a few weeks ago
18:22.59Kobazand it didn't look like that
18:23.10Kobazwell, i saw a different one
18:23.14leifmadsenit's gone through some revisions as people have provided feedback (yes we listen to feedback!)
18:23.31Kobazyeah
18:23.34Kobazyay
18:23.38Kattyp3nguin: ohohoh
18:23.40leifmadsen~asteriskversioning
18:23.41infobothmm... asteriskversioning is Information about the new Asterisk versioning method with the 1.6.x series is available here:  http://www.asterisk.org/node/48602
18:23.42Kattyp3nguin: ohooh, it's 33F now :>
18:23.58leifmadseninfobot: no, asteriskversioning is http://www.asterisk.org/asterisk-versions
18:23.58infobotokay, leifmadsen
18:24.06leifmadsen~asterisk-versions
18:24.15leifmadseninfobot: asterisk-versions is http://www.asterisk.org/asterisk-versions
18:24.16infobotokay, leifmadsen
18:25.15leifmadseninfobot asterisk-1.6-versioning is http://blogs.asterisk.org/2009/06/24/about-the-new-asterisk-versioning-method/
18:25.16infobotokay, leifmadsen
18:25.27Kobazi like the new versioning
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18:25.31Kobazthat's quite good
18:26.02leifmadsenwe just give timeframes now
18:26.19leifmadsenwe tried something, didn't work as expected, changed it to work better
18:26.28Kobazwell, the last time i looked at that chart, it didn't have standard/lts
18:26.38Kattypuppy is napping on the couch so cutely :>
18:26.40Kattytakes photo
18:26.52fenrus_giev picture!
18:27.05Kobazhttp://www.uniquedaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/fendsoff-bullying-birds.jpg
18:27.23hardwiredamnit.
18:27.26hardwireone more blog to read
18:27.30hardwirepunches leifmadsen
18:27.36hardwiresends leifmadsen a bill
18:27.44leifmadsenwatches hardwire break his hand on steel
18:27.49hardwireorly?
18:27.55leifmadseno'reilly.
18:28.02hardwireya'reilly?
18:28.13leifmadseno'rally
18:28.24hardwirewalks off after being outwitted.
18:28.29hardwirewalks it oooooffff..
18:28.30hardwirewalks it oooooffff..
18:28.55hardwireis doing evil dahdi things today.
18:29.01Kobazkicks firefox
18:29.03Kobazstop being slow
18:29.11hardwireerr.. evil DUNDi things today
18:29.11hardwiredangit.
18:29.28nnyif adblock for chrome wasn't causing me issues I'd say use that ha
18:29.43Kattyhttp://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs131.snc3/17877_645591008657_37617946_36451246_3072433_n.jpg <- 90lbs in a ball.
18:30.48Kobazi need to hurry up and port my new features to trunk so they make it into 1.8
18:31.21nnycan't you set a feature with DYNAMIC_FEATURES=buttscratcher via globals?
18:31.41Kattywhy don't you try it and find out
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18:32.28nnyKatty: working on it, my business partner had DYNAMIC_FEATURES=> in the dialplan for something he was testing and wasn't sure if the => was a typo
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18:32.35cuscohello!
18:32.40Kattyhai cusco
18:32.57cuscowe just got a new pri service...
18:33.05cuscoi just set up a test box
18:33.14cuscospan 1 is active
18:33.23Kattyhow about them cookies.
18:33.29cuscobats ate them
18:33.36Katty:<
18:33.49KattyDARN YOU BATMAN
18:34.07cuscobatmans is history, we got the "Edward" from twilight
18:34.14cuscoanyways
18:34.23Kattymister sparkles.
18:34.31cuscoyes thats the one
18:34.42cuscois reading trough the forth - breaking dawn
18:34.44Kattywhy does mister sparkles like high school girls?
18:35.00cuscohe can't read her mind, thats why :p
18:35.03Kattydoes mister sparkles have an investment portfiolio?
18:35.12jo8330[TK]D-Fender: Telco fixed CID on 800 numbers, now it works perfectly
18:35.42cuscoshould do! after 800 years living trough ordinary society, I bet he knows how to get round
18:35.57cuscoanyway... DDI is 210066500
18:36.05cuscowhen I call that number asterisk says:
18:36.14[TK]D-FenderjoVery rare kind of issue... they should knwo better... but this is Bell Quebec we're talking about...
18:36.18cusco-- Extension '6500' in context 'incoming-pri' from '210332300' does not exist.  Rejecting call on channel 0/1, span 1
18:36.29cuscowhats with the extension 6500 ?
18:36.37Kattywhy doesn't mister sparkles wear a matte finish foundation?
18:36.41[TK]D-Fendercusco: because your telco is only sneding 4 digits as the DID
18:36.49cuscoah!
18:36.50[TK]D-Fendercusco: Go tell them to send 10
18:37.04cuscoI see....
18:37.40p3nguinIs that normal for a telco to only send 4?
18:37.54cusconot with our other telco
18:37.57carrarif you tell them too
18:38.17p3nguinI would expect by default, you'd get 10 or 11 digits.
18:38.47nnydamn
18:38.47carrar11 digits?
18:38.58[TK]D-Fender10
18:39.08leifmadsenI have seen many telcos only send the last 4 digits
18:39.08p3nguin1 plus the 10-digit number
18:39.10jo8330[TK]D-Fender: hehe. yeah it's not the first issue for this T1.  hopefully it's the last.  thanks again for your help earlier.
18:39.14carrarPlease send me 25 digits every time!!!
18:39.16Kattywe get sent 7 digits.
18:39.18Kattyit's irritating
18:39.28leifmadsenI've worked with 2-3 customers whose telcos only send 4 digits
18:39.31leifmadsen(on a T1)
18:39.34leifmadsen(PRI)
18:39.47Kattywhat happens when your area code/dids overlap? :<
18:39.51jo8330i like all my digitz
18:39.52KattyI KNOW WHAT HAPPENS
18:39.52nnyhmm
18:39.53leifmadsenthey don't :)
18:39.53KattyDOOM HAPPENS
18:39.59leifmadsen(not in that area anyways)
18:40.08nnyany way to see what a command from applicationmap is doing if it's failing?
18:40.08carrarUse the BFG9000
18:40.11KattyDOOM ON YOU
18:40.12KattyDOOM ON YOU
18:40.25Kattywhat is that from?
18:40.31carrarDOOM
18:40.53Kattyice age?
18:41.08Naikrovekfuturama.  Bender: we're all doomed!  DOOOOOO [commercial break] OOOOMED
18:41.11nnyi tried a simple cellswitch => *9,callee,Transfer,SIP/SOMENUMBER and it just dies, no console output
18:41.35Kattyyeah it was the scene from the melons
18:41.36Kattyand the birds
18:41.37nnyer crao
18:41.39nnycrap*
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18:41.42nnyi know why it dies
18:41.49nnybut still wondering why the console says nada
18:41.53Katty"So you got three melons?" "if you weren't smart enough to plan ahead, then doom on you! doom on you! doom on you!"
18:42.24Kattymine? :>
18:42.26Kattymine!
18:42.30p3nguinnny: Did you try basic DTMF transfers and skip the feature code?
18:42.35Kattymine! mine! mine! mine! mine! mine! mine!
18:42.52nnyp3nguin: hmm no will try that first
18:43.13Kattyinfobot: mine?
18:43.14infobot[mine] ircII
18:43.22Katty:<
18:43.24Kattybummer.
18:43.27p3nguinYou might have to tweak the dialplan to allow dialing outbound from your current context.
18:43.52nnyp3nguin: that seems to be the case
18:45.23bochdoes asterisk rotate its own logs ?
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18:46.48Kattywell it wouldn't want the fire to go out.
18:48.18bochim having this notice once per minute: Rotated Logs Per SIGXFSZ (Exceeded file size limit) file sizes are 40byte
18:48.43carrar40byte log files are huge!! :)
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18:49.15p3nguinMaybe logrotate is having a bad hair day.
18:49.18carrarfix your log rotate script
18:49.25nnyp3nguin: hmm got it to barf out an error, but now nothing again heh
18:49.42nnyp3nguin: declined, call miserably fails. heh
18:49.46bochasterisk is rotating the logs, it is getting the SIGXFSZ signal, but how can i know the sender of this signal
18:50.26p3nguin/etc/logrotate.d/asterisk causes mine to rotate, so I dunno.
18:50.32Kattymarians.
18:51.23leifmadsenAsterisk 1.4.29-rc1, 1.6.0.21-rc1, 1.6.1.13-rc1, and 1.6.2.1-rc1 are now available for testing!  More information can be found in the release announcement:  http://www.asterisk.org/node/49884
18:51.35KattyTHE MARSIES ARE COMING!! PUT ON YOUR FOIL HATS
18:51.44ChannelZmake sure the limits in your /etc/asterisk/logger.conf aren't crazy
18:52.06Kobazcaaaaraaaazzzy
18:52.09Kattyaww why can't it be the marsies sending the signal? )=
18:52.11ChannelZheh
18:52.40Kattythat'd be so much more fun.
18:52.47Kattyalways ruining my fun.
18:52.48Kattysulks.
18:55.24mbthv9467hello all. Anyone ever run into multiple CLI 'originate' commands running synchronously?
18:55.35ManxPower-workboch: chances are you ran out of inodes for that directory.  Make sure you don't have a bazillion log files in that directory
18:56.27bochManxPower-work, i deleted the directory and created again, and once again started roting after few seconds, i checked the process limits and file size is unlimited
18:57.42leifmadsenOK... I think I'm officially nearly sick
18:57.54Katty:<
18:58.00Kattyi'm sick too. stayed home today.
18:58.05Kattyapplies blanket to leifmadsen
18:59.48leifmadsenI stayed home too
18:59.51leifmadsen(I work from home)
19:00.09leifmadsenjust took a big dose of Cold-FX and now having a glass of OJ to see if I can combat this sickness
19:00.30Kattywhat's in Cold-FX(tm)
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19:02.48nnyso my idea is getting closer, but followme isn't quite qhat I need. anyone have a brief suggestion on how to transfer a call to another phone, yet still keep the caller on the phone while the second phone is being dialed?
19:03.58Kattyi don't get the question
19:03.59leifmadsenKatty: 300mg of CVT-E002, a proprietary ChemBioPrint (CBP) product containing great than 80% poly-furanosyl-pyranosyl-saccharides extracted from Paneax quinqufolius (North American ginseng, root)
19:04.09Kattythe caller is going to stay on the channel until one of them hangs up
19:04.23Kattyleifmadsen: so it's ginseng?
19:04.27nnyKatty: ok say I am have a call to my deskphone, and I want to move it to my cell. However I don't want the caller to hear the ringing or the transfer process
19:04.31leifmadsenKatty: or some extract from it... I guess
19:04.47Kattynny: what about music
19:04.50nnyKatty: so essentially if I hit *something, it dials my cellphone and waits for the pickup before moving the call
19:04.54leifmadsennny: sounds like an Originate() and Bridge()
19:04.56carrarleifmadsen, juice carrots, apples and catalope
19:05.07nnyleifmadsen: shall research
19:05.08leifmadsencarrar: I don't have a juicer
19:05.14carrar(don't mix catalop in that juic emix) :)
19:05.20carrarGET ONE!!
19:05.20Kattycatalope?!
19:05.24carrarThats why you're sick
19:05.37carrarJust catalope juiced by it's self is awesome
19:05.39Kattyhe's sick cause someone breathed on him!
19:05.47leifmadsenI'm sick because I had a party on Saturday and likely someone else was sick -- I haven't been sick in several years
19:05.47Kattycatalope?!
19:05.50carrarwith skin
19:06.06carrarit's like a thick shake full of vitamins
19:06.08nnyleifmadsen: looks like it's time I learn to use the AGI heh
19:06.14Kattyyou mean cantaloupe? :P
19:06.28carrarsure :)
19:06.59carrarhttp://www.salmonellablog.com/12_cantaloupe.jpg
19:07.06carrarpop that whole slice in there
19:07.08nnyleifmadsen: unless there is a way to use Originate from the dialplan
19:07.09carrarmmmmm
19:07.14carrarand supah healthy
19:07.30leifmadsennny: there is -- use Originate() (available in 1.6.2.0 and later)
19:07.53carrarYou'll have titanium resistance to sickness! :)
19:08.01nnyleifmadsen: still on 1.4, mainly due to some needs to rewrite macros into gotos, hmm i'll have to consider both options
19:08.15nnyleifmadsen: slack i know
19:08.19leifmadsennny: Macro() still exists in 1.6.2.0
19:08.27leifmadsenI have absolutely not idea why people think it isn't
19:08.33leifmadsens/not/no
19:08.47leifmadsenit's not recommended, but it still exists
19:09.13nnyleifmadsen: gotcha, dunno figured it was more principle of using it than.. yeah. Anything I should be weary of before compiling 1.6 over 1.4?
19:10.07leifmadsennny: never do that?
19:10.15leifmadsennny: test servers are a must
19:10.25nnyleifmadsen: yeah this is kind of a test server :D
19:10.36leifmadsenI would never recommend someone just upgrading a production server
19:10.41carrarIt's Asterisk!! Pop that new release right into production! :)
19:10.43nnyleifmadsen: yeah no i hear you
19:10.54leifmadsennny: then go nuts :)
19:10.57KattyIt's Asterisk!!! wrap it another layer of foil and ROLL IT DOWN A HILL!
19:11.29leifmadsenIt's Log! It's Log! It's better than bad... it's good!
19:11.44carrarPlease send PICS of Asterisk wrapped in foil
19:12.20ManxPower-worknny: UPGRADE*.txt
19:12.24ManxPower-work8-)
19:12.27nnyManxPower-work: ty
19:12.47ManxPower-worknny: (In theory) it contains all major changes
19:13.19Kattycarrar: http://www.owensworld.com/funnyimages/files/foil_big.jpg
19:13.32carrarhahah
19:15.04carrarThink of how much less lighting you would need
19:15.33nnycarrar: http://i.imgur.com/bmbhhl.jpg
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19:17.23rocksfrowhow would i go about sending a specific inbound phone number from a block directly to a specifc extension
19:17.45rocksfrowi currently have two trunks, one with 14 channels (everything but fax), and one with 1 channel (fax)
19:17.45ManxPower-workexten => 2125551212,1,Goto(context,extension,priority)
19:17.57ManxPower-workNow go read the Asterisk book.
19:17.58ManxPower-work~book
19:17.59infobot[~book] Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF at http://www.asteriskdocs.org --- HTML at http://astbook.asteriskdocs.org or see ~buybook
19:18.03nny~movie
19:18.04infobotfrom memory, movie is http://www.wakeworld.com/VideoGuide/getvideo.asp?ProductID=100128
19:18.08nnyhahaha
19:18.20nnywow was being a smart ass
19:18.21nny:\
19:18.25rocksfrowlol
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19:25.28nnyscore! segfault :D
19:25.51chuckfhttp://i.imgur.com/bmbhhl.jpg
19:26.17nnychuckf: you like my 13337 gimp skillz?
19:26.27chuckfthey are lovely
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19:30.40Katty:< the ups guy scared away all the critters :<<<
19:30.54Kattyi will sue him for DISTURBING THE PEACE
19:30.55nnysegfault due to stupidity, someone needs to file a bug report on that
19:31.10Kattysue it
19:31.12KattySUE SEGFAULT
19:31.34nny[bug: 420247 - User must compile addons when upgrading, L2read]
19:32.29titterAnyone know if app_rxfax works successfully with 1.6.x and DAHDI?
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19:36.00nnyso far so good with 1.6, been meaning to test the various apps (openfire, fop) with 1.6 anyways
19:38.00titterDo I need to compile agx-ast-addons still? I saw there is a DAHDI dir in the svn now
19:38.14jameswfso whats the latest koolaid...
19:38.37ManxPower-worktitter: 1.6 comes with a fax app
19:41.10mbthv9467blah
19:42.09titterDoes it support DAHDI?
19:42.52rocksfrowwhy would the DID be coming through blank?
19:43.05rocksfrowEntering from-zaptel with DID == "
19:43.28ManxPower-workrocksfrow: because you are using FreePBX, not Asterisk.
19:43.40ManxPower-workTry asking on the ~freepbx
19:43.44rocksfrow...
19:43.46rocksfrownot asterisk?
19:43.50ManxPower-work~freepbx
19:43.51infobot[~freepbx] FreePBX is unable to be supported here. It is made up of complex dialplans and scripts which can't be easily supported by people who aren't deeply involved. Try joining #freepbx and asking there, or fpbx
19:43.53rocksfrowfreepbx is the frontend FOR asterisk, no?
19:43.59Kobazno
19:44.05Kobazit's *a* front end
19:44.13rocksfrowwell, sorry *a*
19:44.19rocksfrowhe said you're using freepbx, not asterisk
19:44.22rocksfrowthat's not the case?
19:44.25rocksfrowi'm using both, yes?
19:44.35rocksfrowno problem, will go to #freepbx just want to be sure i'm not confused here.
19:44.42rocksfrowbut i am indeed using asterisk, lol.
19:44.45Kobazfreepbx is a wrapper around a bunch of asterisk stuff
19:44.52ManxPower-workrocksfrow: Technically you are using an Asterisk that was "reprogrammed" via config files for FreePBX
19:45.14Kobazit has a whole bunch of custom dialplan that makes supporting people who say they use asterisk, very difficult for us
19:45.16rocksfrowManxPower-work, so the asteriskNOW distro, isn't asterisk?
19:45.19ManxPower-workSo pretty much nothing we tell you to solve your problem and most any config file and setting we might tell you will be WRONG for your setup.
19:45.21Kobazsince hardly anyone uses freepbx here
19:45.32rocksfrowah, okay.
19:45.33rocksfrowthx.
19:46.09Kobazthere's a whole bunch of frontends for asterisk, freepbx is one of them
19:46.17Kobazpersonally i recommend just going with straight asterisk
19:46.38rocksfrowwith no front end/
19:46.45Kobaznope
19:47.10Kobazfrontends are only good for doing what the frontend is programmed to allow you to do
19:47.12rocksfrowhow do you expect anybody who isn't a pbx expert to manage it?
19:47.13titterno need for a front end, the conf files are pretty simple once you gain understanding of them ... plus you have more control.
19:47.54Kobazrocksfrow: you don't have to be a pbx expert, or an asterisk expert, you just need to know what you need to build what you want
19:48.21titterManxPower-work: do you know if it supports DAHDI now?
19:48.25Kobazer. know what you need to know...
19:52.14Kobazrocksfrow: if all you want to do is set up a half dozen phones, with some voicemail and outside/inside dialing, then by all means use a frontend
19:52.46Kobazrocksfrow: if you want to build custom apps or add functionality other than that, you'll need to get to asterisk itself
19:53.41rocksfrowkobaz: im very interested in what you're saying because i do plan on implementing custom code to incorporate our internal database within the customer service system
19:53.50rocksfrowbut, i cans till dot hat with a freepbx system, no?
19:53.56Kobazyou can
19:53.58rocksfrowhaving freepbx, doesn't stop me from doing separate coding?
19:54.01rocksfrowright..
19:54.12[TK]D-Fenderrocksfrow: Good luck with that...  LOTS of work, and you'll not only have to learn *, but also FreePBX.
19:54.13Kobazyou'll need to learn freepbx's ways of doing things, in order to maintain use of the frontend
19:54.20Kobazexactly
19:54.20rocksfrow#freepbx is not very busy :-/
19:54.58rocksfrowSet("Zap/11-1", "DID=s") in new stack
19:55.09rocksfrowi just don't understand what is and why setting the DID to s
19:55.10rocksfrowlol
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19:55.15Kobaz~book
19:55.16infobot[~book] Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF at http://www.asteriskdocs.org --- HTML at http://astbook.asteriskdocs.org or see ~buybook
19:55.18[TK]D-Fenderrocksfrow: And you've continuously failed to specify what its coming IN on.
19:55.20rocksfrow:-p
19:55.21rocksfrowyes book..
19:55.38KobazZap is a tdm/analog subsystem
19:55.39rocksfrowit's coming IN on a zaptel trunk
19:55.47[TK]D-Fenderrocksfrow: .what KIND?
19:55.55Kobazs is the 'default' extension, in asterisk
19:56.08[TK]D-Fendernot quite
19:56.15rocksfrowdefault extension?
19:56.20Kobazwell, not default, but
19:56.21rocksfrowi'm calling from an outside number
19:56.22[TK]D-Fenderrocksfrow: No.  Now answer the questio
19:56.24[TK]D-Fendern
19:56.30nnyleifmadsen: trying out Originate now, is there any examples of how to use it with Bridge for a call transfer like I mentioned?
19:56.34rocksfrowi would expect DID to be set to the dialed #
19:56.34Kobazwhich is why i quoted it
19:56.40Kobazrocksfrow: depends on the setup
19:56.49Kobazrocksfrow: and, we don't know your set, and we're not familiar with freepbx
19:56.53rocksfrow[TK]D-Fender, i'm trying...it's a t1
19:56.59[TK]D-Fenderrocksfrow: What signalling...
19:57.20leifmadsennny: likely not -- this is an edge case feature request that you'll have to be clever in solving
19:57.28rocksfrowman i need to call back the phone company, i just called them trying to get information about the connection
19:57.36Kobaznny: you can use Bridge()
19:57.38rocksfrowand all he would say is its a voip..and he said its a t1 but with more lines?
19:57.46[TK]D-Fenderrocksfrow: You've already configured your system for it and you don;'t even know what you have?
19:57.52rocksfrowhe wouldnt give me any technical details, obviously he didnt know anymore than i do :-p
19:57.52Kobazhehe
19:58.05[TK]D-Fenderrocksfrow: Do you randomly fill up rental cars with deisel and hope they all work too?
19:58.07Kobazrocksfrow: i think you need to hire some support
19:58.11rocksfrow[TK]D-Fender, this system was set up by a previous employee.
19:58.19[TK]D-FenderMY FAVOURITE STORY
19:58.19rocksfrow[TK]D-Fender, are you serious? lol
19:58.22Kobaz~book
19:58.23infobot[~book] Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF at http://www.asteriskdocs.org --- HTML at http://astbook.asteriskdocs.org or see ~buybook
19:58.29Kobazit's *free*
19:58.34Kobazgo read it, and then come back :)
19:58.34rocksfrowdude, i ordered the book man
19:58.42[TK]D-Fenderrocksfrow: don't ask for help when you don't even know what you're fixing <-
19:58.51rocksfrow....
19:58.51nnyleifmadsen: hear ya, in a nut shell would it be Originate - and use the viariable " ${ORIGINATE_STATUS}" to perform either a Bridge() or do nothing?
19:59.03Kobazrocksfrow: get the pdf online, while you wait for your hard copy to arrive in the mail
19:59.07Kobazrocksfrow: it will answer a lot of questions
19:59.27[TK]D-Fenderrocksfrow: [14:58]<rocksfrow>dude, i ordered the book man
19:59.30rocksfrow[TK]D-Fender, the system is currently working
19:59.32Kobaznny: no, you'll need to Originate you call to the Bridge() application
19:59.36leifmadsennny: you'll have to play around -- it may not even end up being those applications, but that's what I would have started with in my initial thinking -- I've never implemented that, and don't have time to lab anything up right now
19:59.39[TK]D-Fenderrocksfrow: http://www.angelfire.com/crazy2/hear_sheepdog/
19:59.46nnyKobaz: gotcha
19:59.51rocksfrowi'm just tyring to add a STATIC route to an extension for a specific number in the block of numbers allocated
19:59.55[TK]D-Fenderrocksfrow: pastebin your zapata.conf and EVERYTHING it links to
20:00.02Kobaznny: at least, i think that's what you want to to... but you didn't really explain the situation
20:00.23nnyKobaz: bascially I am looking to transfer a call, but wait until the other line picks up
20:00.25Kobazrocksfrow: do you want freepbx help or asterisk help
20:00.36Kobazrocksfrow: because 'static route' isnt not an asterisk term
20:00.47Kobazrocksfrow: we can help you with asterisk... but you gotta pick your fancy
20:00.51rocksfrowneither is a freepbx term (??), i'm just saying
20:00.52Kobazit's one or the other
20:00.55Kobazk
20:00.57rocksfrowit's a static route, thats english language, lol.
20:00.58rocksfrowno terms.
20:01.13titterhes waiting to route a call based on the incoming did I assume
20:01.18titterwants*
20:01.26rocksfrowyes quite common i would assume
20:01.30rocksfrowi have 14 numbers you know
20:01.31Kobazwhich is pretty easy
20:01.36titterIn * it's easy
20:01.36rocksfrowxx10 - xx24
20:01.37Kobazbut you need to give more details
20:01.38[TK]D-Fenderrocksfrow: "static route" is a networking term.  Go plug your T1 into your DSL modems RJ-45 and it'll get "static"
20:01.46rocksfrowi want xx20 to go to extension 5000, and bypass the IVR
20:01.55rocksfrow[TK]D-Fender, lol, smartass.
20:01.57Kobazheh
20:01.59[TK]D-Fenderrocksfrow: And I'm still waiting for my pastebin...
20:02.01[TK]D-Fender~pb
20:02.02infobot[~pb] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org ,  http://bin.cakephp.org/ , or apt-get install pastebinit
20:02.03[TK]D-Fender^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
20:02.04Kobazdetails!
20:02.08Kobazhe wants his details
20:02.10ManxPower-workrocksfrow: then use exten => _XX20,1,Goto(context,5000,1)
20:02.15Kobazfender needs his fix
20:02.16[TK]D-FenderManxPower-work: LOL
20:02.37ManxPower-work[TK]D-Fender: he's asking on #Asterisk, I will provide Asterisk answers.
20:02.40rocksfrowManxPower-work, i figured out how to add the actual rule, but when watching debug during the call, the did is getting set to 's', not xxxx
20:02.49Kobazpaaassstteeeeee
20:02.51ManxPower-workrocksfrow: that's FreePBX doing that, not Asterisk
20:02.52rocksfrowyes asterisk answers are fine
20:02.56rocksfrowworking on it working on it
20:02.57[TK]D-Fenderrocksfrow: And you're still not providing the information requested
20:03.06rocksfrowManxPower-work, asterisk -r
20:03.11rocksfrowis where i see it
20:03.16rocksfrow[TK]D-Fender, working on it`
20:03.19rocksfrowdoing it now!
20:03.20ManxPower-workrocksfrow: correct.  FreePBX wrote that config file.
20:03.31ManxPower-workrocksfrow: Did you ever use Windows 95 or Windows 98?
20:03.38rocksfrowunfortunately
20:03.42[TK]D-Fenderrocksfrow: then stop talking until you've got it
20:03.54[TK]D-Fenderrocksfrow: CONCENTRATE
20:03.59Kobazuse the force
20:03.59ManxPower-workrocksfrow: so everything you know about DOS should apply to Windows98, right?  It runs on top of DOS (..er..Asterisk) afterall
20:04.13rocksfrowManxPower-work, you makek no sense what so ever.
20:04.21Kobazi think he makes sense
20:04.25ManxPower-workrocksfrow: You'll understand soon enough.
20:04.27rocksfrowi understand the concept of a front end and back end
20:04.30titterManxPower-work: the fax app in 1.6 supports dahdi now? just wondering before I test this
20:04.30Kobazhe's comparing freepbx to asterisk, like dos to windows
20:04.31rocksfrowdamnit let me paste
20:04.39Kobazwindows 3.1 is a gui for dos
20:04.58rocksfrowi meant the all-around point
20:04.59rocksfrownvm.
20:05.01rocksfrowgeesh
20:05.02Kobazheh
20:05.06ManxPower-worktitter: your question makes NO sense.  fax isn't going to work over SIP.  What else would it be running on other than DAHDI/Zaptel?
20:05.41KobazManxPower-work: i've never worked with fax really, but i've sent a fax over vonage... isn't that sip?
20:06.16titterManxPower-work: it does make sense considering there are people running 1.4 with dahdi which wasn't supported with agx-ast-addons in 1.4
20:06.34Kobazgoes back to breaking stuff
20:06.54titterhttp://sourceforge.net/projects/agx-ast-addons/
20:07.12rocksfrow[TK]D-Fender, http://pastebin.com/m74e8482
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20:07.52Kobazwatches [TK]D-Fender's eyes go wild from the details
20:07.53titterI am going to order a PRI, and setup a dedicated fax to e-mail server ... before I sign this PRI contract, and setup tons of 8xx numbers, want to make sure this works ... so I am going to test it on my PRI now with a free DID and I will let you know. I just didn't have 1.6 server in front of me.
20:07.57nnyKobaz: you mind if I pb you my logic for Originate once I think I figured it out?
20:08.04Kobaznny: sure
20:08.07[TK]D-Fenderrocksfrow: signalling=fxs_ks <- doesn't support DID's
20:08.11nnyKobaz: thanks
20:08.13[TK]D-Fenderrocksfrow: signalling=fxs_ks <-- should be NO
20:08.27rocksfrowshould be NO?
20:08.33[TK]D-Fenderrocksfrow: Guess you should stop using CAS signalling on digital links
20:08.38Kobazheh
20:08.39rocksfrowthanks for the help man, really.
20:08.48[TK]D-Fenderrocksfrow: immediate=yes                     ; alt = no
20:09.03[TK]D-Fenderrocksfrow: ^^ NO
20:09.11Kobazrocksfrow: he knows his stuff... just be patient
20:09.15[TK]D-Fenderrocksfrow: Fix this last one, restart *, retest
20:09.24rocksfrowso ony the immediate?
20:09.25rocksfrowupdate yes to no?
20:09.28Kobazyes
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20:09.29rocksfrowwhat did you saya boutt he first?
20:09.31Kobazgo go go
20:09.34rocksfrowdon't touch fxs_ks?
20:09.36[TK]D-Fenderrocksfrow: What card do you have?
20:09.46ManxPower-workTalk slow, he's a GUI user.
20:09.50Kobazhahah
20:09.53rocksfrowlol
20:09.57[TK]D-Fenderrocksfrow: fxs signalling does not typically support transmitting a DID
20:10.00rocksfrowManxPower-work, i'm a gui user with shit i dont know about, sure.
20:10.11Kobazdahdi_hardware
20:10.16rocksfrowinteresting..
20:10.22[TK]D-FenderManxPower-work: Lets jsut stop at "non-telco informed" shall we...
20:10.35rocksfrowi'll take that, sure. lol
20:10.37ManxPower-workrocksfrow: just remember virtually none of the asterisk documentation will apply to your setup.
20:10.37Kobazrocksfrow: you really want PRI
20:10.41[TK]D-Fenderrocksfrow: what card?
20:10.48Kobazrocksfrow: type dahdi_hardware
20:11.05rocksfrownatta
20:11.10Kobazwhat?
20:11.10[TK]D-Fender; changed to kewl start from loop start, since Cavtel wasn't providing disconnect supervision <-- sure as shit looks lok dumb analog commentary to me
20:11.19[TK]D-Fenderrocksfrow: what card?
20:11.33rocksfrow[TK]D-Fender, trying to find out now..
20:11.39Kobazrocksfrow: quit out of the asterisk shell, and type
20:11.39Kobazoh
20:11.41Kobazit's zaptel
20:11.49[TK]D-Fender"this PCB is best viewed with... YOUR EYES"
20:12.06Kobazis it zaptel_hardware for zap drivers?
20:12.10Kobazi forget, it's beena  while
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20:12.48Kobaznope, zaptel doesn't have that
20:12.56Kobaztype lspci, and look for your telephony card
20:13.29tzafrirKobaz, actually latest versions of zaptel have it. But even with 1.4.12.1 it may still be unreliable
20:13.38rocksfrowyay
20:13.39rocksfrow02:01.0 Communication controller: Digium, Inc. Wildcard TE205P (rev 02)
20:13.41Kobazgood
20:13.57rocksfrow[TK]D-Fender, <rocksfrow> 02:01.0 Communication controller: Digium, Inc. Wildcard TE205P (rev 02)
20:14.06[TK]D-Fenderrocksfrow: Ask your telco to cut you over to PRI signalling
20:14.13Kobazso, you are using analog signalling on a digital link
20:14.23[TK]D-FenderKobaz: Channel banks do taht, and CAS
20:14.35[TK]D-FenderKobaz: Stupid normally
20:14.42Kobazyeah, but it'll be nicer for him to use pri, i agree
20:14.48rocksfrowthe guy from telco told me i had a digital link
20:14.52Kobazyou do
20:14.53Kobazit's t1
20:15.29rocksfrowwhat sort of changes would be required after switching to pri signalling?
20:15.31Kobazrocksfrow: and, before you go and break everything
20:15.37[TK]D-Fenderrocksfrow: Yippy-kai-yay.  No ask about having them switch the signalling to PRI
20:15.46[TK]D-Fendernow*
20:16.07Kobazrocksfrow: install asterisk on a new box, and experiement with that, so you still have a working phone system while you play
20:16.08rocksfrowi'm wondering why we're not already
20:16.12rocksfroware there any drawbacks?
20:16.21rocksfrowkobaz: totally the plan
20:16.33[TK]D-Fenderrocksfrow: Yes, you'd have missed out on all of this fun we've had because of it
20:16.38rocksfrowKobaz, fortunately, the current system is not _that_ important
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20:16.45Kobazthat's good
20:16.50[TK]D-Fenderrocksfrow: why not?
20:16.58rocksfrowbut we are going to be setting up a customer service system, so thats why i'm trying to get involved with this.
20:17.07Kobazrocksfrow: no, no drawbacks, pri is generally what people use these days for t1 phone service
20:17.14drmessano[TK]D-Fender: They're a tech startup.. they may not need it in a week
20:17.20rocksfrow[TK]D-Fender, I meant as far as needing 100% uptime. its currently only internal office phones..
20:17.33[TK]D-FenderWaiter: CHECK PLEASE!
20:17.37Kobazhehe
20:17.40rocksfrowbut i must say
20:17.43drmessanolol
20:17.47rocksfrowasterisk has ran for 2 yrs
20:17.51rocksfrowwithout me touching it basically
20:17.54Kobazyeap
20:17.56Kobazthat's what it should do
20:17.57rocksfrowsince the last guy left
20:17.57rocksfrowlol
20:18.09rocksfrowdrmessano: what?
20:18.11rocksfrowa tech startup?
20:18.11Kobazunless you have one of those new fangled crashy versions
20:18.21Kobazbut yeah, asterisk should be able to run unattended
20:18.46rocksfrowdrmessano: much more than  tech startup- sir.
20:18.52rocksfrowvery judgemental, damn..lol
20:18.57Kobazrocksfrow: go peruse the online asterisk book pdf
20:18.59drmessanosocksfrown: It was a JOKE
20:19.05nnylol
20:19.05Kobazrocksfrow: it really will answer a lot of questions
20:19.32rocksfrowKobaz, yes will do.
20:19.38rocksfrowthx guys for your help
20:19.43Kobazthank you, come again
20:20.09rocksfrowKobaz, so switching to pri doesnt require a huge amount of reconfiguration?
20:20.21Kobazrocksfrow: one line, in the config file you just pasted
20:20.25Kobazno, not a whole lot
20:20.27rocksfrowyou think i should get a completely separate, second t1 for the new setup?
20:20.52drmessanoI would also get a copy of "IRC for Dummies", "The Notebook", and "The National Geographic Field Guide to North American Squirrel Nuts" if you plan to come back
20:20.56Kobazrocksfrow: if your phone system is is unimportant enough where it can be down for a week or two, while you putz with it
20:21.16Kobazthen you dont need another t1
20:21.48rocksfrowdrmessano, cute
20:21.50Kobazotherwise, get yourself one of these: http://www.vconsole.com/client/
20:22.10jayteeand "The National Geographic Field Guide to North American Squirrel Nuts"  PMSL
20:22.21Kobazer, one of these: http://www.vconsole.com/2-Port-T1/E1/PRI-%2B-4-Port-FXS-PSTN-Simulator-p-26.html
20:22.49rocksfrowoh sweet
20:23.06rocksfrowone last q
20:23.13Kobazif you plan on doing lots of asterisk, for clients
20:23.17Kobazdefinitly get one of those
20:24.02drmessanoDoes someone make an Asterisk technician simulator.. That would be far more useful
20:24.11jaytee:-)
20:25.26rocksfrowyeah that would be sweet too
20:32.53nnyKobaz: hmm heh. am I on the right path? http://pastebin.com/mefa1678
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20:33.46Kobazwell
20:33.51Kobazfirst you should explain what you're trying to do
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20:34.12Kobazbut, that looks like it'll do what i think you want to do
20:34.23Kobazbut we need to make sure what i think you need, and what you actually need... match up
20:34.38Kobazyou're missing some arguments
20:35.15nnyKobaz: for the test I am just testing a transfer to the number 8432980648 (I am calling another number and hitting the macro via *9 from features.conf)
20:35.32drmessanoBut what if he thinks that you think that he thinks what you're thinking is not really what he thinks you think he is thinking?
20:37.18Kobazif you think that's thinking, you better think again
20:37.26nnyi think
20:37.58Kobazer
20:38.02nnyKobaz: yeah I need to define the channel
20:38.11nnyKobaz: that's probably going to be a variable
20:38.13Kobazyou want to transfer an existing call to somewhere else?
20:38.18nnywell kind of
20:38.27nnywithout the caller hearing the xfer
20:38.27Kobazby hitting a * code while the call is in progress?
20:38.34nnyyes
20:38.39Kobazokay so
20:38.47Kobazyou should have said that the last time i asked you to explain what you're doing
20:38.50nnybut want to connect the transfered number first
20:38.51Kobazwhat you pasted won't work
20:38.51nnyheh sorry
20:38.57Kobazoh
20:38.59Kobazokay
20:39.02Kobazthat might work then
20:39.19Kobazso you have callers, A and B, and outside destination C
20:39.26nnycorrect
20:39.28Kobazyou want to call C, and then link it to B
20:39.33nnyyes
20:39.36Kobazand A will hang up
20:39.39nnyyes
20:39.49Kobazokay, the originate to bridge will work then
20:40.14nnyhmm
20:40.25nnyfeatures.conf asks which side of the channel to originate the command
20:40.27Kobazyou need to pass bridge, the channel that you want to hijack
20:40.32nnyyeah
20:41.01Kobazthe side config in features.conf, is which side will this command run on
20:41.02nny${CHANNEL} ?
20:41.06Kobazcaller, and callee
20:41.26nnyyeah but if I wanted the ability to do both depending on if the person dialed out or was dialed to it may prove tricky no?
20:41.31Kobazin your case, it might not matter which side runs it, since originate doesn't pass any audio to the executor
20:41.35nnyahh ok
20:41.59Kobazwhat you need to be able to control, is who has access to it
20:42.07Kobazand that's with DYNAMIC_FEATURES
20:42.18nnyyeah I have that set in my logic for the test
20:42.28Kobazokay so... what's your current issue
20:43.14nnyjust trying to figure out the proper way to pass the channel variable to bridge, so that it always affetcs "B"'s channel
20:43.25Kobazah yes
20:43.34Kobazso it will matter which side it runs on
20:43.37nnyyeah
20:43.41Kobazdoes A always call B
20:43.51nnyfor the test yes, in theory for everyday use no
20:43.53Kobazie... is it always an outgoing call... or always an incomming call
20:44.03Kobazthat gets pretty tricky
20:44.06nnyyeah heh
20:44.31Kobazso, in your dialplan
20:44.41Kobazyou'll need to enable a different feature, depending on the direction
20:44.49Kobazyou'll need one *9 code, for caller, and one *9 code for callee
20:44.56nnyahhh
20:45.01nnyok
20:45.05Kobazand in dialplan, you need to figure out which one to enable, depending on the direction of the call
20:45.12nnyso I can use *9 for both, and just Set the one I need for the direction
20:45.15nnynice
20:45.21Kobazyes you can, but you need to give them different names
20:45.33nnyi <3 asterisk heh
20:45.34Kobazso call i, callee_starnine and caller_starnine
20:45.35Kobazor whatever
20:45.37nnyok working on it now
20:45.42Kobazhah yeah, asterisk is pretty damn flexible
20:46.29Kobazsooo
20:46.43Kobazif i remember right, you can't pass variables from features.conf
20:46.52Kobazso you'll need a GoSub
20:47.02nnyusing a macro atm for the command
20:47.09nnybut that's improper afaik
20:47.31nnydialout_cellswitch => *9,callee,Macro,cellswitch
20:47.38Kobazcallee_starnine => *9,callee,GoSub,foo,s,1(*9)
20:47.43Kobazmacro works too
20:47.48Kobazgosub is the new method
20:47.49nnywell
20:47.52nnyI should not use macros
20:47.55nnyso I will dot hat
20:47.57nnydo that*
20:48.02nnyneed to retrain brain very soon
20:48.14Kobazso now... it will run on the callee's channel
20:48.35Kobazso, in that dialplan sub.. ${CHANNEL} will be the callee's channel, which you can pass to Bridge
20:48.47Kobazwell, which you can pass to originate, which will then pass to bridge
20:49.59Kobazyou can do all kinds of funky stuff with asterisk, you just need to kind of put the various pieces together
20:50.08nnyyeah
20:52.19Kobazpost orfice time
20:52.23Kobazgood luck
20:52.27nnythanks
20:54.31nnywell it works except for one small part, the Originate seems to mute the channels while it is happening, is this something that can be worked around?
20:55.52nnyhttp://pastebin.com/m752ca7b is results right now
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21:02.59nnyI assume Originate isn't "muting" channels so much as taking over the channel long enought to perform the operation, so this may not work either for what I am trying to do. any imput appreciated
21:04.27voipmonkits a girl
21:04.42nny?
21:04.50nnymore voipmonks?
21:05.15voipmonk:)
21:05.32voipmonkshopping for 4d imaging places
21:05.43voipmonkgot the sonogram pics and movie
21:05.49nnynice gratz!
21:06.00voipmonk=)
21:06.55nnyis trying to figure out if Originate is supposed to supress the channel as it works
21:07.07voipmonksupress?
21:07.12voipmonkits in use
21:07.14nnyhttp://pastebin.com/m752ca7b
21:07.18nnydoing:
21:07.33nnyexten => s,n,Originate(SIP/8432980648@vitel-outbound,app,Bridge,${CHANNEL})
21:07.45nnygoal: seamless transfer to a cell phone
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21:09.24nnywas trying to do it in such a way that it didn't bridge the two channels until the 3rd was answered, but once I iniate it the first two channels can't communicate
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21:11.58Rawplayerhello, i'm looking for someone with experiance from the SIA protocol
21:13.03ChannelZI like Sia but not as a protocol
21:13.17fenrus_sia ice-cream? :)
21:13.33ChannelZSia the singer
21:14.02Rawplayerhaters :<
21:14.12Rawplayerit's for alarm signalling
21:14.16Rawplayerburglar alarms
21:14.30ChannelZClearly you are lost
21:14.32[TK]D-FenderChannelZ: http://www.bandweblogs.com/sia.jpg
21:14.46Rawplayerlost?
21:14.48Rawplayerfrom?
21:14.48ChannelZTK: That's the one
21:14.54nnytoo bad she's into other girls
21:14.59ChannelZyeah
21:15.01[TK]D-FenderChannelZ: Ex had that album
21:15.10Rawplayerlol
21:15.21ChannelZLost as in alarms != asterisk
21:15.36p3nguin[tk]d-fender: I read that as your ex had that problem.
21:15.44[TK]D-Fender[16:14]<nny>too bad she's into other girls <- only too bad if its exclusive ;)
21:15.59nny[TK]D-Fender: http://www.volenet.cz/files/lesbians.jpg
21:15.59[TK]D-Fenderp3nguin: lysdexics of the world untie!
21:16.08p3nguinexactly
21:16.34ChannelZnny: haha nice
21:16.42nny:D
21:19.05nnyso anyone familiar with Originate, Is there a way to keep the channels open while it attempts the call?? Sorry to be redundant, can't find any other info, the googles, they do nothing
21:19.29[TK]D-Fendernny: HUH?
21:19.38[TK]D-Fendernny: keep WHAT channels "open"?
21:20.34nny[TK]D-Fender: sorry recap: Trying to have A call B and transfer to C, but not until C answers. Using "s,n,Originate(SIP/8432980648@vitel-outbound,app,Bridge,${CHANNEL})" results are http://pastebin.com/m752ca7b
21:20.51nny[TK]D-Fender: the issue is when I perform that, A and B can no longer talk while C is dialed
21:21.15nnyreading book over to find anymore info about originate and how it works
21:21.49[TK]D-Fendernny: Try doing a System + call file to test
21:22.26rocksfrowanybody have any links to some recommended hardware for asterisk servers? ..or any personal advice?
21:22.33rocksfrowi'm shopping for two servers, one to be used as a backup
21:22.48nny[TK]D-Fender: you mean just test with an arbitrary shell command instead of Bridge?
21:22.55rocksfrowits only for an system with ~40 phones
21:23.05[TK]D-Fendernny: Correct
21:23.10nny[TK]D-Fender: k
21:23.23[TK]D-Fenderrocksfrow: For your needs any P4 should do
21:23.35|Rain|I really hope 1.6.2 is less deadlock-prone than 1.4
21:24.15rocksfrow[TK]D-Fender, what about RAM?
21:25.03[TK]D-Fenderrocksfrow: 256 minimum, 1G recommended
21:25.29rocksfrow[TK]D-Fender, any tips concerning redundancy?
21:26.39[TK]D-Fenderrocksfrow: Buy another box.  Sync often
21:26.40drmessanoDont buy a backup.. buy 1 good server..
21:26.58rocksfrowdrmessano, that's what i'm debating..
21:27.07drmessanoMirrored drives, redundant power, 4 hour gold support, etc
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21:27.20drmessanoNothing fancy..
21:27.22rocksfrowdrmessano, right.
21:28.04rocksfrowwhen you guys are doing setups, do you mostly always have the voip servers on-site, or do you ever go datacentre route?
21:28.33[TK]D-Fenderrocksfrow: on-site if you know what's good for you
21:28.54rocksfrowcool cool
21:29.15[TK]D-Fendercheckout time, later all
21:29.39rocksfrowlater, thanks again tk
21:29.46drmessanoI still havent worked out the mentality of "My former PBX was a black meaningless box shoved in the janitors closet, but this asterisk box needs its own rack, in a datacenter, with $1500 a month worth of redundant connectivity
21:30.03rocksfrowdrmessano, care for an explanation?
21:30.26rocksfrowit's quite simple, and relatively common situation.
21:30.46rocksfrowsince the companies birth, they've been outsourcing all customer service / fullfillment.
21:30.55drmessanoPeople tend to way overbuy for Asterisk
21:31.08drmessanoor they go cheap as shit
21:31.18rocksfrowover the past 5 years the companys revenue has really grown for us to need customer service in house
21:31.20drmessano$10000 box or a $300 box..
21:31.28rocksfrowheh
21:31.36drmessanoIm serious
21:31.37rocksfrowwe've been running our current system on an old dell desktop
21:31.45nnyugh
21:31.50rocksfrowlol
21:32.10rocksfrowdrmessano, i'm thinking just a nice beefy desktop server, in the relay rack i already have
21:32.17nnyok so trying what D-fender suggested about using System in stead of bridge with Originate and the two channels sitll lose connectivity
21:32.54rocksfrowdrmessano, do you recommend any specific hardware?
21:33.18nnyer rather, the two channels can't communicate while originate is qualifying the number. is this "as designed" or is there a way to get run Originate in the background??
21:33.25drmessanoYou need at minimum a server class box.. tower form factor is fine.. Mirrored drives, redundant power, and a way to hang it on the wall without violating the warranty
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21:35.02rocksfrowthx
21:36.43nnyKobaz: if you pop back in nd feel like helping more lemme know.
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21:41.06Kobaznny: originate will end once the first party answers
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21:41.31Kobaznny: you'll need to first send the call to a local channel, which then answer()'s, and then dials the outside number
21:42.29Kobazand that will free up the flow to allow audio to pass while the other side is ringing
21:42.45nnyKobaz: interesting, any advice on how to do that?
21:43.08nny"send the call" you mean the originate call?
21:43.27Kobazyeah
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21:44.00nnyso I want Originate to run against a local channel, and when it answers bridge to the $CHANNEL (Callee or Caller)
21:44.08Kobazexten => s,n,Dial(Local/8432980648@outbound...
21:44.34Kobazand then context outbound { _X! => { Answer(); Dial(SIP/foo...
21:44.45nnyKobaz: so Originate isn't needed here?
21:44.49Kobazer
21:44.51Kobazi mean
21:45.06Kobazwait, i'm all backwards
21:45.11nnyhehe np
21:45.12nnyso am I
21:45.15Kobazhe
21:45.16Kobazheh
21:45.44Kobazexten => s,n,Originate(Local/number@outbound,app,Bridge,...
21:45.52Kobazand then
21:45.57Kobaz<PROTECTED>
21:46.16Kobazso once it answers, Originate is no longer in the foreground, and audio will continue
21:46.40bpgoldsbIs it possible to wildcard Sip hints? i.e. if I want 'hint(SIP/200) 200 => Dial(SIP/200);', but for extensions 201-250 also
21:47.50nnyKobaz: something linke http://pastebin.com/m4234a1cd ?
21:48.12nnyer
21:48.13nnylol
21:48.14nnywow
21:48.20nnyfail at the second part hold on
21:48.42nnyhahha wow that's not even close, sorry more coffee here
21:48.47Kobazheh
21:48.52Kobazyou need dial(${EXTEN}
21:49.20Kobazsip/${EXTEN}
21:49.35titterstupid question ... if I run make menuselect, and add an addon, will I lose my conf files (already backed them up) but is there a better way
21:49.53seanbrightyour conf files in /etc/asterisk?  no
21:50.14nnyhttp://pastebin.com/m693c79c1 ?
21:51.00titterim lazy lol
21:51.11Kobaznny: that looks better
21:51.16nnygah
21:51.17nnys,1,
21:51.18nnyheheh
21:51.23nnybrewing now!
21:51.33nnyer s//1
21:51.38nnynot X!,s
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21:51.45Kobazoh yeah
21:51.48Kobazsee, that's why ael is nice
21:51.55Kobazdon't need to screw with line numbers
21:52.00nnyhave to add that to my list of things I need to learn
21:52.19Kobazhttp://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+AEL2
21:52.23[TK]D-Fendernny: So totally DON'T :P
21:52.44Kobazhah
21:52.51Kobaz:)
21:52.57[TK]D-Fendernny: Kobaz just wants not to feel alone ;)
21:53.04nnyheh
21:53.16seanbrighthe's not alone
21:53.26Kobazwhew
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21:53.41nnyKobaz: callee heard ring, and nothing between transfer, couldn't continue conversation during process
21:53.57nnyhttp://pastebin.com/m687c4357
21:53.58Kobazdid the answer() kick in
21:54.08nnyit appears so
21:54.12Kobazhmm
21:54.47nny[TK]D-Fender: the System with Originate also took over the channel while it qualified the call
21:55.27Kobazoriginate should release the line back to bridging once the first party answers
21:55.33Kobazyou can try this real quick
21:55.35nnyoh it does
21:55.39Kobazoh okay
21:55.53Kobazso what's the issue then
21:55.55nnybut during it disconnects to the two calls
21:56.11Kobazwhile originate is running, no audio will pass
21:56.17nnycrap hehe
21:56.20Kobazbut
21:56.32Kobazyou can speed it up a little bit
21:56.35Kobaztry this real quick
21:57.10nnyso the Local thing isn't needed, i'll revert back to V1 with just the macro
21:57.12Kobazexten => s,n,TrySystem(asterisk -rx "originate Local/8432980648@celloutbound application Bridge ${CHANNEL}")
21:57.26Kobazif the pre-answer with local doesn't help, that should
21:57.30Kobazthat will completely background it
21:57.32nnywill try
21:57.38Kobazwont wait for an answer
21:57.45nnyahh well
21:57.47nnynm
21:57.48Kobazit would be nice if the Originate() had a nowait
21:58.07nnytrying to get it so the party being bridged isn't aware of the process
21:58.38nnyso they would hear the ring.. all of this is pretty much the same as a follow me or tranfser right now
21:58.51Kobazwhat is the party hearing
21:59.11Kobazyou want it to immediatly start ringing?
21:59.15Kobazor just like, poof, the call is hijacked
21:59.25nnywith the Local/ they hear ringing for a sec, with Just Originate it's silence while it originates
21:59.28nnywell
21:59.41nnythe idea is A and B aren't d/c'd until C answers
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21:59.48Kobazyeap
22:00.05nnyso they would continue talking, and when C answers, B would talk immediately to C, no ring or silence
22:00.11nnyhowever not sure if that's possible
22:00.25Kobazokay so
22:00.33Kobazto get rid of the ring
22:00.43nnywell even with the ring they can't hear A right?
22:00.49nnyer without*
22:01.15Kobazif you use a musicless musiconhold context, and set Dial to use moh
22:01.19Kobazactually, but. that makes no sense
22:01.27nnyexten => s,n,Originate(SIP/8432980648@vitel-oubound,app,Bridge,${CHANNEL})
22:01.31nny^^ plays no ring
22:01.36nnybut also silences A and B
22:01.38Kobazthe originate is backgrounded, either party shouldn't hear ringing at all
22:02.02Kobazdid you try out the asterisk -rx
22:02.03nnyso while Asterisk is originating the SIP/8432980648@vitel-oubound A and B lose audio
22:02.08Kobazcorrect
22:02.10nnycan try that now sb
22:02.16Kobazokay, so you didn't try that
22:02.20Kobazthat should fix all your trouble
22:02.44Kobazthe problem is, any dialplan application running, during audio bridgeing, will stop bridging until it's done
22:03.01Kobazand annoyingly, Originate() doesn't end until it gets an answer
22:03.14nnyok will test give me a sec
22:03.16nnythanks for the help btw
22:03.19Kobaznp
22:03.22Kobazyou owe me big
22:03.28Kobaz:P
22:05.02nnyhehe if this works i'll buy ya dinner
22:05.53Kobazmmm, food
22:06.30Kobazthere will still be a blip in the audio, while that command is running
22:06.46Kobazif it's too long for you, there are other ways, but you'll need to write some more code
22:07.15nnyhmm didn't work
22:07.24AkiraaHas anyone worked with Skype and asterisk, or built VoIP networks with Skype terminations?
22:07.32nnyone sec pb output
22:07.34Kobazwhat didn't work
22:07.38Kobazyou broke it
22:07.41nnySystemTry
22:07.42nnyhehehe
22:07.45Kobazthat's unpossible
22:07.48KobazTrySystem
22:07.52nnyer yeah that
22:08.08nnyhttp://pastebin.com/m26e1e126
22:09.06Kobazwell you don't need the local channel anymore
22:09.09AkiraaIt may be cheap-ish to divert some outside calls through a Skype line in some scenarios
22:09.10Kobazsince you're backgrounding it
22:09.11nnyok ok
22:09.46Kobazoh
22:09.48Kobazumm
22:09.52Kobazwhy are you running hangup
22:10.01nnythat was after the Originate
22:10.05Kobazexten => s,n,Hangup()  <--- axe that out
22:10.07nnyotherwise it just starts over
22:10.09Kobazthat will hang up the call
22:10.11nnyand loops
22:10.25nnyk
22:10.47Kobazif it's set up right, it will only run once per feature code recieved
22:14.15nnyhmm
22:14.17nnydoesn't call the originate number with that methos
22:14.18nnymethod
22:14.20nnypb one sec
22:14.45nnyhttp://pastebin.com/m7ce5cd5b
22:15.06nnyi hit *9, it shows the command, but the existing call stays connected and the originate number doesn't ring
22:15.37Kobazthe asterisk -rx isn't running
22:15.52nnyyeah odd it shows the UNI connection
22:15.54nnyUNIX*
22:16.03nnycapital O?
22:16.12Kobazdoesn't matter
22:16.17nnyhmm
22:16.22Kobazwhat asterisk version
22:16.26nny1.6.2
22:16.40Kobazk, so you're not running trunk or something silly like that
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22:16.43nnynah
22:16.48Kobazokay so
22:16.49Kobazmake your call
22:16.55Kobazand for sanity
22:16.56nnytry that from console
22:16.57nny?
22:17.05Kobazdo the originate commandline instead of *9
22:17.19nnyk
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22:18.14nnyNo such command 'originate SIP/8432980648@vitel-outbound application Bridge '
22:18.36nnyhave to preface it with something?
22:18.38Kobazoooooh
22:18.42Kobazyes
22:18.48Kobaz1.6.2 the prefix for originate is core
22:18.52nnyahh yeah
22:19.00Kobazi knew it was something stupid
22:19.01nnylearning that as I try to type things :D
22:19.25Kobazall else fails, break things into small pieces
22:20.28nnyhmm not core either
22:20.33titterive broken more mx518 mice than I can remember
22:20.46titterlogitech sends free replacements
22:20.55nnyhey that's what I have
22:21.01Kobazfor the 1.6.2 rc's it was core originate, i think
22:21.02nnythe top buttons are starting to suck
22:21.05Kobazi haven't played much with 1.6.2
22:21.06titterya
22:21.10nnyKobaz: yeah let me look one sec
22:21.12Kobazmaybe it's channel originate
22:21.14tittercall logitech and tell them mouse1 is broken
22:21.29nnytitter: will do thanks!
22:21.38nnyKobaz: that's it
22:21.38tittersay you have tried it on a few systems, and their latest drivers to get around their scripts of questions
22:21.53titterthey will send a new one, and not have you send back the old one .. just read them the serial on the bottom
22:22.24nnyKobaz: nice
22:22.43nnyKobaz: think it works, let me test with business partner cell phone once he gets off of 1800HOTGOATS
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22:23.00nnycould hear audio while it called my cell
22:23.24Kobazi like goats
22:23.46nnyso TrySystem doesn't connect the two until the command succeeds?
22:23.52nnynot sure what the fix was, but highly intrigued
22:23.54Kobazwell
22:24.10KobazTrySystem is... run something in a shell
22:24.13Kobazvia system()
22:24.21Kobazasterisk -rx, just runs console commands
22:24.23nnyyeah except it has $SYSTEMSTATUS right?
22:24.43nnyer nm
22:24.45nnyso does System
22:25.02nnynot sure why doing that way would keep audio open
22:25.06Kobazwell
22:25.08Kobazit's much faster
22:25.13Kobazand it doesn't wait for anything
22:25.26Kobazwell, it's faster because it doesn't wait for anything
22:25.33KobazOriginate() waits for an answer()
22:25.36nnyif I tried the same command in dialplan, the whole time the call was being dialed the audio was muted
22:25.45Kobazfrom the commandline, originate does not wait
22:25.48Kobazand will return immediatly
22:25.49nnyahhh
22:26.10Kobazso your *9 finishes, very quickly
22:26.16Kobazand originate is now fully in the background
22:26.19nnyso Originate still qualifies the call, but doesn't wait in regards to holding the two channels
22:26.41Kobaznot sure what you mean by qualifies the call, but it does all the usual stuff you would do if you were making a call any other way
22:26.42nnyso i can add some error trapping and variables, but just run the command from System
22:26.57nnyer qualify as in wait for the call to answer before Bridge
22:26.59Kobazyou will not get any status from the asterisk -rx command
22:27.09nnythat should be ok
22:27.14Kobazthat's originate's standard behavior
22:27.28Kobazit will wait for A to pick up, which is the parameter on the left
22:27.38Kobazonce A picks up, it will run B... which is... the right parameter
22:27.42nnyif the call fails for some reason, (other than answer) will the call just carry on as normal between A and B?
22:27.48Kobazcorrect
22:28.05Kobazoriginate will time out, and go byebye
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22:28.17nnythe whole idea was to emulate this request (c/p from g voice)
22:28.18nnyTo switch phones in the middle of an incoming call, just press * while you're talking, and your other phones will ring. Then, for example, you can pick up the call from your mobile phone (if you're about to head out), or from your desk. There are no passcodes or PINs to enter and, best of all, your caller won't even hear the switch.
22:28.35nnyi will have to post this on voip-info somehow, sure other people will want to use it
22:28.53Kobazgood luck getting something onto voip-info
22:29.08nnyhehe why? have some stuff from other issues/ info
22:29.20Kobazthere's so little maintenance
22:29.28nnyahh yeah I agree
22:29.28Kobazmost stuff is really really old, noone updates anything
22:29.38nnyi'll find a way to share it
22:29.41nnycookbook thing maybe
22:29.44Kobazforge.asterisk.org
22:29.48nnypm me your email btw
22:30.10nnyi need to go caulculate four cheeseburgers from the wnedy's 99c menu :D
22:30.16Kobazheh
22:30.17Kobazsounds good
22:30.31nnyyou use pp?
22:30.36Kobazi do
22:30.38nnyk
22:30.48Kobazpaypal is really annoying these days though
22:30.57Kobazthey take a chunk out of user to user transactions now
22:30.58nnyyeah I agree, any alternatives?
22:31.05Kobazpen and paper?
22:31.11nnyheh yeah
22:31.27nnysent
22:31.34Kobazi sent myself money from my business account to my personal
22:31.37Kobazand they took like 5%
22:31.39Kobazi'm like wtf
22:31.41nnyugh lol
22:31.53nnymiddle man tax, always sucks
22:32.02Kobazyeap
22:32.44Kobazoo, i'm rich
22:32.49nnyhehe
22:33.10nnywait till PP takes their cut, it'll be 3 cheeseburgers
22:33.15Kobazyeah
22:33.16Kobazprobably
22:34.04nnylast Q would this work in 1.4?
22:34.14nnyi was told originate only works as a command in 1.6.2
22:34.14Kobazit should, since it's just -rx
22:34.20Kobazneed to just use regular originatre
22:34.27nnygotcha
22:34.30nnywill test
22:35.13Kobaztake out channel originate, and just do originate
22:35.19Kobazspeaking of paypal
22:35.22Kobazpokes vally
22:35.33Kobazheh
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22:35.52Kobazi don't do it for the money, but... he did say he was gonna give me something
22:36.10Kobazbut thanks... i wasn't expecting that
22:37.08nnyanytime, always glad to
22:37.12nnythanks for the help!
22:39.40Kobaznp
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22:49.40nnyhmm wonder which variable would be caller extension number, CHANNEL is callee
22:49.49nnyi'll noop some, i can find it
22:51.02nnylol callerid(num) should do it
22:51.16nnybefore I mangle it to be the box's number, anyways
22:53.41nnythat worked
22:53.46nny<3 asterisk
22:55.16nnyhmm can I pass a user defined variable to TrySystem?
22:57.51Kobazyeah you're already passing ${CHANNEL}
22:58.26nnyhmm odd
22:58.59nnyi'll have to pb it
23:00.19nnyhttp://pastebin.com/m3a6f53f9
23:00.32nnyit changes my user variable, and the SystemTry ignores it all togther
23:01.46nnythe general goal was to change which number is dialed based on the calling phone, (i have cell phone numbers defined as CELLEXT at the top_
23:05.00nny-- Executing [s@macro-cellswitch:1] NoOp("SIP/vitel-outbound-0000003e", "") in new stack is confusing, since I never set $CELL as $CHANNEL or $CALLERID(num) after the initial set. So does the variable match whatever Set tells it to regardless of context, and change it when the CID changes? I'll have to look up Set
23:05.24nnyand also figure out a way to pass the number as a variable to SystemTry
23:05.27nnyer trySystem
23:06.15nnyNote that Set() changes behaviour in Asterisk 1.6 which can be controlled via asterisk.conf: 
23:07.11dzupam confuse here, this is the very first time working in asterisk, i need to rent a voip provider cheap and unlimited calling to usa/canada, can some one recommend me one?
23:07.24dzupi need 10 channels
23:07.32nnydzup: all the ones I use have per minute
23:07.52dzupnny: you find one cheap?
23:07.53AkiraaIs VoIP traffic liable to be "shaped" (read: intentionally fucked) by ISPs?
23:08.08nnydzup: .012 outbound
23:08.29leifmadsenAkiraa: not on any ISP I'd use -- I don't even have a home phone line anymore, just cell and VoIP for business
23:08.38dzupnny: that works, you have a URI handly?
23:08.44leifmadsenPer minute is usually a better deal
23:09.02nnyhttp://vitelity.com/ or http://www.flowroute.com/
23:09.03leifmadsenI've had good luck with bandwidth.com in the US, or Unlimitel.ca in Canada
23:09.13nnyleifmadsen: i'll have to check bandwidth
23:09.51nnythey have a flat rate per line, that's interesting
23:09.55leifmadseni have a call centre in Florida that does 50 channels with bandwidth.com and I haven't had any issues with them for over a year
23:10.05nnythey have a PRI rate?
23:10.21leifmadseni.e. I'm the consultant and I just manage the system and haven't been called by the company running the call centre :)
23:10.24nnyer rather, something comparable*
23:10.31nnythat's always good
23:10.38nnyi'll have to ping them tomorrow for more info
23:10.52nnyalways hard to show savings when it's per minute vs per line
23:11.57nnyso should System be able to use variables defined by Set?
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23:12.04dzupleifmadsen nny  thanks am checking :)
23:12.05nnyor only asterisk variables
23:12.23dzupthose work with my asterisk i suppoust?
23:12.32nnydzup: yeah they should
23:12.42nnydzup: bandwidth lists digium and I use vitelity daily
23:12.49nnyflowroute was a suggestion from a cliejt
23:12.51nnyclient*
23:13.30dzupnny: what plan you choose from doanload.com for those 50 lines?, am planning to have 16 channels dho
23:13.53nnyyou mean bandwidth.com ?
23:14.31Kobaznyy mm
23:15.00Kobaz${CELL${CELL}}
23:15.03Kobazwhat's that for?
23:15.13nnyit should = CELL190
23:15.19nnyi can use less confusing variables
23:15.20Kobazah
23:15.25nnyCELL190=8432980648
23:15.30Kobazyeah but
23:15.44nnybut it looks like SET is matching CIDnum as it changes
23:16.27Kobazthink about what that's gonna evaluate to
23:16.37Kobazthe inner is evaluated first
23:16.43Kobazso you'll have ${CELLCELL190}
23:16.49nnyer
23:16.52Kobazwhich will be nothing
23:16.58Kobazsince that's not a variable you're previously set
23:17.06nnyer
23:17.11nnylet me clean it up one sec
23:17.14nnyi was being hasty
23:17.16ManxPower-workI recently used ${${variable}}
23:17.17Kobazquit breaking stuff
23:17.29Kobazi had it all nice for you
23:17.32Kobaz:)
23:17.32nnyhehe
23:17.59nnywell $CELL is Set("SIP/190-0000003d", "CELL=190") in new stack
23:18.09KobazManxPower-work: yeah i've done that to fake arrays in astdb
23:18.17nnyso wouldn't it be $CELL{190}
23:18.24nnyor rather .. eh nm
23:18.29nnylet me simplify it hahaha
23:18.51Kobazokay well
23:18.53Kobazyou figure it out
23:18.57Kobazi'll go back to breaking my own stuff
23:20.27nnylol working on it
23:20.34nnygah
23:20.51nnyhttp://pastebin.com/m22106983
23:21.07nny<PROTECTED>
23:21.12nnynotice the NoOp before
23:21.34nnyit's changing $CELL to SIP/vitel-outbound-00000004
23:21.45ManxPower-workKobaz: I use ${VARIABLE[${SUBSCRIPT}]} for arrays
23:22.11KobazManxPower-work: but what about storing an array in astdb
23:22.27nnyand then the TrySystem "should" try (based on that NoOp) SIP/vitel-outbound-00000004@vitel-outbound, which is still wrong, but it's not even doing that
23:22.33ManxPower-workKobaz: that's what sqlite is for. 8-)
23:22.50Kobazare you reading it wrong
23:22.53KobazSet("SIP/190-0000003d",...
23:23.05nny?
23:23.06Kobazthe output ... the first item is the channel it's acting on
23:23.16Kobazwhy would CELL be the channel
23:23.28nnyit shouldnt be
23:23.38nnyi am setting CELL in the earlier context
23:23.43nny<PROTECTED>
23:23.50Kobazlooks good
23:24.00nnybut when I NoOp it in the macro it's NoOp("SIP/vitel-outbound-00000004", "") in new stack
23:24.08nnyand when I call it from the command it's empty
23:24.24nnyI could just hard code the number, but it would only work for one extension
23:24.40Kattyhi
23:25.35nnyI R confused
23:26.09Kattyi stay confused.
23:26.11nnyhehehe
23:26.18nnymaybe I need to set GLOBAL
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23:28.18Kattyi got new products while i was out :>
23:28.49nnyhahaha
23:28.52nnyok sorry Kobaz
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23:29.19nnythe NoOp SIP/vitel-outbound-00000004 was me reading output wrong
23:29.28nnyGLOBAL was missing, hence the variable was empty
23:29.36nnyshoots self with clue shotgun
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23:30.50Kobazheh
23:31.07dgilmorehas anyone seen issues with iax and nat?   i cant connect to any of my providers.  i happen to have access to one of my providers * boxes.  and its seeing my gateways ip not mine
23:31.21Kobaziax plays pretty nice with nat
23:31.56dgilmorei just changed my router out and it stopped working
23:32.05titterwhat did you change it to?
23:32.06Brady1408I have a werid bug I can't seem to google an answer too. the asterisk box says that all of my sound files that I'm trying to use do not exist in any format.  they all exist in /var/lib/asterisk/sounds and I've checked the permissions on that folder and it all looks good
23:32.08dgilmorewhen i ssh to the * box its using the correct ip
23:32.26nnyKobaz: now to get pyscho, I won't bug ye any further, but gonna attempt to allow the reverse to happen after :D
23:32.26dgilmoretitter: i moved from openwrt to a regular linux box
23:32.37nnyKobaz: I should have enough info to do that
23:32.40nnyand thanks again
23:33.00Kobazk
23:33.01Kobaznp
23:33.20nnythanks for the forge link, I'll attempt to share it there after
23:33.30nnythis is a feature in Mitel systems
23:33.37nnythat requires an extra linux server lol
23:33.38Kobazyrah
23:33.39Kobazyeah
23:34.25Kobazi've done a lot of "take this old pbx, and make asterisk replace it"
23:34.49Kobazreplaced a siemens system recently
23:35.11nnyyeah me too
23:35.14nnythe hardest is key systems
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23:35.26nnyI won't do SLA
23:35.30*** join/#asterisk CRCinAU_ (n=CRCinAU@irc.crc.id.au)
23:35.31nnyjust a kludge
23:35.40CRCinAU_man I wish someout would remove the ban on my nick :|
23:35.57CRCinAU_and with that, under asterisk 1.6.2.x, do you need app_fax for T.38 passthru?
23:37.17Kobazprobably
23:37.39nnyhmm
23:38.12CRCinAU_I can't find it documented anywhere :(
23:38.24CRCinAU_I can see app_fax is required for sending or receiving... but nothing about passthru
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23:39.46nnycan I redefine a global variable in a context, but not as a exten => ?
23:40.07nnyer rather, set it locally for that context
23:45.06[TK]D-Fendernny: No such thing as contextual scope
23:45.35nny[TK]D-Fender: thanks I see that, for some dial outs I changes the CID, but usually have the user in their own context for it
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23:46.13CRCinAU_I managed to find this: From version 1.4, Asterisk supports T.38 negotiation for SIP users, and the related passthrough of UDPTL T.38 data. This allows many T.38 nodes to communicate through an Asterisk box.
23:46.30CRCinAU_however 1) it doesn't mention 1.6.x - nor do I see anything about it's requirements ;(
23:46.53p3nguin"its"
23:46.56CRCinAU_and 2) no mention of config stuff required (if any) to enable t38 passthru
23:47.03CRCinAU_that too.
23:47.23CRCinAU_I also managed to find: Asterisk 1.6 support G.711 and T.38 FAX origination and termination.
23:47.34CRCinAU_but again, nothing about passthru :(
23:58.32nnyi am just a butterball of questions... I have a Cisco 504g that seems to mis handle sidetone, wondering if it's defective or a feature... my spa962 doesn't seem to have the issue.. if anyone is using them and has similar experience lemme know
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23:59.44nnywondering if the tech enabled echo cancel on the handset

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