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| 00:12.08 | bmoraca_work | if one wanted to implement a BLF with Asterisk, what would be the best phones to use? I need status on 6 peers |
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| 00:15.13 | [TK]D-Fender | bmoraca_work: Aastra 57i or Polycom IP 650 w/ attendent |
| 00:15.33 | bmoraca_work | that's what i figured |
| 00:15.55 | bmoraca_work | polycom w/ attendant is going to be out of the price-range, i'm sure |
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| 00:26.28 | kimo_sabe | I've got a question on patlooptest if anybody has had any luck with it |
| 00:27.36 | kimo_sabe | I have a Digium dual T1 card, one port going to a TWTC PRI and the other to a channel bank, but the analog lines on the channel bank were getting some nasty static and occationally the PRI would lose sync and reset |
| 00:30.10 | kimo_sabe | I've tried looping up the ports with dahdi_tool, a loop back plug, and now cross-connecting the two ports but I can't get patlooptest/patgen/pattest to keep from complaining for more and a few seconds at a run |
| 00:30.37 | kimo_sabe | is this card hosed or is there soemthing that might need tweaked/kicekd with the server? |
| 00:31.55 | kimo_sabe | ...or am I doing something wrong? |
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| 00:35.21 | mykhyggz | I'm reading a bit on AGI where there's a suggestion to not use blocking apps. But my thing is fastagi, uses a preforking server, right? So, does it really matter if each process opens a child, say, compared to just running a script? |
| 00:36.29 | mykhyggz | I'm trying to decide if it's a viable approach if it needs to "scale". |
| 00:43.16 | voipmonk | is the cabling clean, kimo_sabe ? |
| 00:43.20 | voipmonk | clean cables? |
| 00:43.26 | voipmonk | clean connections |
| 00:43.33 | voipmonk | clean power? |
| 00:44.15 | kimo_sabe | voipmonk: newly made cables. Nothing else seems to mind the power, but I'm not sure how perfect it is |
| 00:46.35 | kimo_sabe | voipmonk: and I wouldn't think cabling could effect the dahdi internal loopback |
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| 00:54.39 | bmoraca_work | what might be causing a polycom phone not to include the value specified in reg.1.auth.userId in sip registration digests? |
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| 01:11.10 | irieKen | Hmm, where'd voipmonk go? |
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| 01:13.11 | voipmonk | im here |
| 01:13.15 | voipmonk | sort of |
| 01:15.25 | irieKen | :) |
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| 01:28.42 | b14ck | sup everyone |
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| 02:58.53 | Katty | hi |
| 02:59.42 | jaytee | hi |
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| 03:01.38 | Trionnis | perhaps I'm missing something obvious, but would anyone know why when using skype for asterisk, I wouldn't get a hangup when the calling party disconnects before the call is answered by the sip device behind the * server? |
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| 03:02.34 | Trionnis | call path is: caller -> PSTN -> SkypeIn -> SFA -> * -> SIP device |
| 03:04.06 | Trionnis | I also seem to have the same issue when calling Skype -> SFA -> * -> SIP device |
| 03:04.20 | Trionnis | it's as if SFA is not getting a hangup properly |
| 03:04.28 | Trionnis | during ringback, that is |
| 03:18.18 | Katty | waits for the snow |
| 03:23.21 | Katty | radar says it's supposed to be snowing :< |
| 03:23.24 | Katty | but no snow. |
| 03:23.38 | file | has someone stolen it? |
| 03:24.02 | Katty | yes, perhaps. |
| 03:24.19 | Katty | or perhaps the house is so hot, it's radiating and evaporating said snow flurries. |
| 03:24.20 | p3nguin | I got hit with a few flakes just a minute ago. |
| 03:24.28 | p3nguin | It's been snowing in STL all day. |
| 03:24.30 | Katty | st. louis has a few inches already |
| 03:24.37 | Katty | ste. gen has a light dusting |
| 03:24.40 | p3nguin | presackly |
| 03:25.06 | Katty | i can has snow too? |
| 03:25.13 | ChannelZ | Al Gore is a moron... Climate change -- yeah it's called the seasons |
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| 03:25.44 | p3nguin | I hadn't seen a single flake all day until just a few minutes ago. |
| 03:25.54 | Katty | no snow on crittercam :< |
| 03:29.52 | Katty | rings mother nature. |
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| 03:37.01 | securevoip | Trionnis: I believe this is a Skype bug. We have reproduced in our lab with Skype-to-Skype calls... |
| 03:38.34 | b14ck | fuck |
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| 03:50.29 | TJNII | Katty: It's snowing here, you can have it. |
| 03:50.37 | TJNII | I hate shoveling the sidewalk. |
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| 04:20.02 | securevoip | How can I get rid of this? [Jan 6 23:15:50] WARNING[20050]: chan_dahdi.c:1774 dahdi_enable_ec: Unable to enable echo cancellation on channel 4 (No such device) |
| 04:20.31 | voipmonk | do you have echo can turned on in your dahdi configs? |
| 04:22.46 | securevoip | doesn't look like it: http://pastebin.com/m5de51cc3 |
| 04:22.57 | securevoip | happens on analog at home and PRI at work... |
| 04:23.16 | voipmonk | what about the other dahdi config |
| 04:23.30 | voipmonk | where you setup the line build out and framing |
| 04:30.02 | voipmonk | hrmm |
| 04:30.06 | voipmonk | ok well im going to bed... |
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| 05:05.37 | capn_crunch | good morning. Does anyone have any recommendations for an outdoor-grade VoIP video intercom that has been tested with asterisk? |
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| 07:32.18 | bidossessi | hi all |
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| 07:45.12 | x25s | hi |
| 07:46.14 | ChannelZ | oh hai |
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| 07:46.29 | bidossessi | i'm able to make calls from sip to pstn through dahdi, but i can't seem to receive calls from dahdi. nothing gets registered in CLI at verbose 10 |
| 07:49.32 | x25s | i have a 3.3v pci card TE412P. That HP or Dell server recomend for about 200 people ?. Thanks |
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| 07:50.28 | ChannelZ | bidossessi: what hardware? |
| 07:50.42 | ChannelZ | Didn't you have the TDM400 with 2 X cards? |
| 07:50.47 | bidossessi | tdm 410p |
| 07:52.07 | bidossessi | here's the output for dahdi show channel 1 http://pastebin.com/d3bf43957 |
| 07:53.10 | bidossessi | that's on idle |
| 07:53.13 | ChannelZ | what country are you in? |
| 07:53.20 | bidossessi | i'm in algeria |
| 07:53.34 | ChannelZ | is Kewlstart appropriate there? (I have no idea) |
| 07:54.09 | bidossessi | nor do i. algeria is not in zonedata.c |
| 07:54.37 | bidossessi | but since i can make outgoing calls from sip to pstn, i assume some part of it legit |
| 07:56.26 | ChannelZ | you should probably call your telephone company. My only guess is the signalling is goofy and as such your card is not 'seeing' the ring properly for how it is configured |
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| 07:59.32 | bidossessi | ChannelZ, is the ring an audio level detection ? |
| 08:03.50 | ChannelZ | no there are different signalling methods, changes in voltage.. |
| 08:04.30 | ChannelZ | you should probably just try loop start, see if it works, then ground start, see if that works.. |
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| 08:05.52 | bidossessi | there must be an artifact on my line hen. i tried plugging a phone on that line but calling it didn't give me a ring either. |
| 08:06.05 | bidossessi | maybe that's what's wrong |
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| 08:06.53 | ChannelZ | well there's that too |
| 08:07.01 | ChannelZ | maybe you have the wrong number |
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| 08:08.55 | bidossessi | ChannelZ, loool. |
| 08:09.30 | bidossessi | actually the display on the phone goes dim when it's supposed to ring; the voltage issue might be o target |
| 08:09.41 | ChannelZ | or the phone company assigned you the wrong one. I don't know how badly the telcos in algeria suck compared to the US but they more often than not screw things up |
| 08:10.02 | ChannelZ | oh |
| 08:10.10 | ChannelZ | Is this a new line install? |
| 08:10.23 | bidossessi | calling my cellphone from sip gives me the right number, and i simply call that number back. |
| 08:10.45 | bidossessi | ChannelZ, yes it is. we just moved to a new building, and i guess the telco guys kind of messed up |
| 08:11.02 | bidossessi | i'll be calling them today so they can come check it out |
| 08:11.43 | bidossessi | got some work to do right now. user calling for spreadsheet help.brb |
| 08:11.43 | ChannelZ | probably miswired the patch panel |
| 08:11.50 | bidossessi | yeah probably |
| 08:12.42 | bidossessi | they installed a pbx in here. i'm about to put them out of business, so they might not be very happy about that. :p |
| 08:12.45 | bidossessi | brb |
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| 08:18.58 | EmleyMoor | Is there a guide to using pbxes.org as an intermediary between a mobile SIP client and Asterisk? Are there any pros or cons I should be aware of? |
| 08:19.16 | EmleyMoor | pbxes.com even |
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| 08:23.23 | EmleyMoor | might well sign up for a free account and give it a try, when his new phone arrives |
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| 09:16.14 | x25s | what server can i use for TE412P, this server work about 200 persons... |
| 09:17.25 | ChannelZ | A nice quad core would probably be more than enough depending on what you're doing |
| 09:17.40 | x25s | yes |
| 09:17.57 | x25s | with one processor or two? |
| 09:18.31 | x25s | only one work fine, really ? |
| 09:18.54 | ChannelZ | 1's probably enough unless all 200 people are going to be on at once all in MeetMe's or something |
| 09:19.57 | x25s | ok, thanks |
| 09:20.30 | x25s | I have thought of a HP ProLiant DL380 |
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| 09:20.39 | x25s | or Proliant DL360 |
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| 09:26.39 | NET||abuse | hey folks, just wanted to ask in here, i have a nice little low power box unused in our server rack in the office, I wanted to setup a voip system on it, it's seemingly an intel 64 bit machine from maybe 4 years ago. i was going to stick 64bit ubuntu karmic on it, and load asterisk. there's no phone ports on the box i was just going to get everyone to use asterisk client software, and our voice service is from a sip provider already, so i shoul donly nee |
| 09:26.39 | NET||abuse | d the one nic to run the whole system yes? |
| 09:26.46 | NET||abuse | wow, sorry for the long question. |
| 09:28.12 | NET||abuse | the question is, is that box ok hardware wise, 4 yearold 2.6Ghz Pentium 64bit , 1GB ram, 100Mb nic, maybe 250GB hdd, stick karmic 64bit on it, is karmic good for running asterisk ? or should i go 32 bit? |
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| 09:44.36 | miloux | Anyone that can give pointers in how to measure quality of SIP calls? Tools and such |
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| 10:48.55 | NET||abuse | ok, so setting up asterisk on a new server for the first time. |
| 10:49.12 | NET||abuse | ubuntu karmic server 64bit, is the packaged asterisk ok to use? |
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| 10:50.38 | NET||abuse | i have no hardware requirements, we're doing everything with ip, no handsets, just want to use desktop gui's for users, so the server just has one nic plugged in. |
| 10:50.42 | EmleyMoor | NET||abuse: Don't know what comes with ubuntu - I use one from Debian, but slightly patched |
| 10:50.54 | EmleyMoor | Try the package - it can do no harm |
| 10:50.59 | NET||abuse | guess so :) |
| 10:51.09 | NET||abuse | any hint on a good gui for linux and windows? |
| 10:51.27 | EmleyMoor | I don't use one |
| 10:51.31 | NET||abuse | looking to be able to pass calls across from one client to another |
| 10:51.57 | NET||abuse | ITU-T is our international code yeh? |
| 10:52.03 | NET||abuse | just no + or 00 infront of it? |
| 10:52.21 | EmleyMoor | Sorry? Context needed |
| 10:52.56 | NET||abuse | yeh, sorry, just the asterisk installer, first thing the package did while installing was ask what is your ITU-T (eg France 33...) and some other example. |
| 10:53.10 | EmleyMoor | Ah, yes - would be, then |
| 10:53.11 | NET||abuse | i think it was australia 66 or something. |
| 10:53.17 | NET||abuse | so ireland would be 353 |
| 10:53.17 | EmleyMoor | Australia 61 |
| 10:53.24 | EmleyMoor | Ireland is indeed 353 |
| 10:53.42 | NET||abuse | australia 61 yeh, seems i hit enter on the terminal by mistake, will have to switch that over after install. |
| 10:53.55 | NET||abuse | i think it thinks we're in france now. |
| 10:55.01 | NET||abuse | arrgg,, package errors,,,, http://dpaste.com/hold/142009/ |
| 10:55.15 | NET||abuse | down at the end. |
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| 11:01.25 | danj1980 | Hello |
| 11:01.38 | tzafrir | NET||abuse, I have no idea who maintains the dahdi DKMS module |
| 11:01.57 | danj1980 | Can anyone shed some light on this error in my logs:- Didn't get a frame from channel |
| 11:02.14 | danj1980 | It happens even when a call is terminated normally using SIP BYE |
| 11:02.29 | tzafrir | but the "fail" line is: kernel source for this kernel does not seem to be installed. |
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| 11:04.02 | NET||abuse | tzafrir, yeh, my fault, i think i installed ubuntu, did updates, forgot to reboot and tried to install asterisk. |
| 11:04.10 | tzafrir | prefers modass that actually works |
| 11:04.31 | tzafrir | NET||abuse, no, just: aptitude install linux-headers-`uname -r` |
| 11:04.44 | tzafrir | No need for any reboot |
| 11:05.26 | NET||abuse | just rebooted and ran sudo aptitude install asterisk again, seemed to go without a hitch configuring dahdi and asterisk just very quickly then. |
| 11:06.41 | NET||abuse | right installed asterisk,,,, now what, i've no clue what i'm donig :) |
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| 11:09.26 | EmleyMoor | NET||abuse: Tried reading the book? |
| 11:09.51 | NET||abuse | EmleyMoor, nope, |
| 11:09.52 | NET||abuse | :) |
| 11:10.33 | EmleyMoor | Well worth a read - I played with examples in there until I was happy, then did a better install for live use |
| 11:11.14 | NET||abuse | EmleyMoor, ok,,, url? |
| 11:11.22 | EmleyMoor | ~book |
| 11:11.22 | infobot | [~book] Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF at http://www.asteriskdocs.org --- HTML at http://astbook.asteriskdocs.org or see ~buybook |
| 11:11.48 | NET||abuse | http://www.the-asterisk-book.com that it? |
| 11:15.07 | EmleyMoor | Pass on that one - infobot's details are definitely right though |
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| 11:16.13 | NET||abuse | hmm, they're talking about the ztdummy timing device, do i need it? |
| 11:16.31 | NET||abuse | how do i tell if i need ztdummy? |
| 11:16.51 | EmleyMoor | You may - if you intend to do conferencing, for example |
| 11:17.04 | EmleyMoor | Should be easy to set up, if not already done for you |
| 11:17.21 | NET||abuse | EmleyMoor, yeh, was wondering how i could tell did the ubuntu package do it for me? |
| 11:17.40 | NET||abuse | aptitude search zt doesn't show up anything related. |
| 11:18.03 | EmleyMoor | As root: cd / ; find . -name *dummy* -print |
| 11:18.33 | EmleyMoor | Anything zt or dahdi-related matching means that at least the module is available |
| 11:19.24 | NET||abuse | ye, loads of dahdi stuff comes up there. |
| 11:19.53 | EmleyMoor | Loads? With dummy in the name? |
| 11:20.05 | NET||abuse | yup.. i'll dpaste, one sec |
| 11:20.46 | NET||abuse | http://dpaste.com/142016/ |
| 11:21.22 | EmleyMoor | Ah - it's now called dahdi_dummy |
| 11:21.27 | NET||abuse | so it's there :) |
| 11:21.29 | EmleyMoor | modprobe that if you need to |
| 11:21.54 | NET||abuse | modprobe -l | grep dahdi shows it already there. |
| 11:22.03 | EmleyMoor | QED |
| 11:27.06 | tzafrir | NET||abuse, FWIW, a -generic kernel would probably be better for you for Asterisk than a -server one |
| 11:27.12 | tzafrir | it's more "interactive" |
| 11:27.33 | NET||abuse | hmm, easy enough to switch over i guess yeh? |
| 11:28.23 | EmleyMoor | is waiting for his new phone |
| 11:28.26 | NET||abuse | hmm, what i need now is a good softphone for use with asterisk |
| 11:28.37 | EmleyMoor | NET||abuse: For what OS? |
| 11:30.28 | EmleyMoor | (ekiga is good, and runs on most) |
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| 11:32.01 | EmleyMoor | It's a shame the display on my N95 is now in six partially-functional pieces |
| 11:32.29 | EmleyMoor | Still, I think an HTC Magic is a bit more ethical |
| 11:34.36 | tzafrir | NET||abuse, on linux? ekiga? twinkle? |
| 11:37.30 | NET||abuse | ok, tha'ts good i suppose. |
| 11:37.34 | NET||abuse | empathy either |
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| 11:38.14 | tzafrir | empathy works for you as a soft-phone? |
| 11:38.42 | tzafrir | (empathy works for you as a IM client?) |
| 11:39.46 | NET||abuse | tzafrir, hehe, well, i've sucessfully seen incoming calls on our voip service,, as for picking them up, making outgiong calls,, none of that feature bloat functionality yet. |
| 11:40.24 | NET||abuse | Right, our box is up.. need to connect the sip service to it. |
| 11:40.31 | NET||abuse | or connect it to our sip provider. |
| 11:40.42 | NET||abuse | and connect a client to it.. |
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| 11:51.32 | danj1980 | Can anyone shed some light on this error in my logs?:- Didn't get a frame from channel |
| 11:51.44 | danj1980 | It happens even when a call is terminated normally using SIP BYE |
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| 12:27.55 | stix | Hi guys. I have this line: exten => s,n,Set(LOOPCOUNT=0) and get this error: WARNING[12971] ast_expr2.fl: ast_yyerror(): syntax error: syntax error, unexpected '=', expecting $end; Input:= "1" |
| 12:28.01 | stix | what is wrong? |
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| 13:07.29 | Katty | it's a bit snowwy out |
| 13:07.35 | Katty | infobot: crittercam |
| 13:07.36 | infobot | crittercam is probably Katty's broadcast of The Nut House @ http://ustre.am/8H5d |
| 13:18.36 | Katty | first squirrel of the morning (= |
| 13:19.10 | anonymouz666 | Katty: what is snow? :) |
| 13:20.25 | eppigy | Katty: it is supposed to snow here today :> |
| 13:21.30 | ManxPower-work | stix: Is that an ACTUAL paste of the line? |
| 13:21.41 | ManxPower-work | (of the exten line, not of the error message) |
| 13:22.35 | stix | it is a paste of both |
| 13:23.32 | ManxPower-work | stix: Delete the line and recreate it. There must be a hidden character in that line like an extra space (extra spaces=evil) or non-printable character. |
| 13:25.34 | stix | hmm okay, I will check that |
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| 13:27.46 | ariel_ | Morning all |
| 13:27.56 | voipmonk | mornin' |
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| 13:38.06 | TommyBotten | How does one alter the transmission speed and/or t.30 ECM with asterisks RecieveFax? |
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| 13:40.14 | guax | hello, i have asterisk 1.4.26 and when im running a DeadAGI i try to do a Hangup in the call wait 10 seconds and then perform another action, the hangup altough is not completed until the script ends and the channel goes to h exten. so the call gets stuck even after a hangup. is that the corret behavior? |
| 13:41.27 | ManxPower-work | DeadAGI should be run on a channel that is hung up already. It should not be run on a channel that is not hungup. |
| 13:42.30 | guax | my intention was to interact with asterisk in the whole live cycle of the call, before and after hangup, in a single application, but thats aparently not possible |
| 13:42.44 | ManxPower-work | guax: That is correct. |
| 13:43.06 | ManxPower-work | You should be able to do it using the AMI (Asterisk Manager Interface), but that is outside of the dialplan |
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| 13:46.40 | guax | callbacks are made with callfiles, correct? |
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| 13:48.22 | ManxPower-work | guax: That is the most common way, yes. |
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| 13:57.48 | guax | ManxPower-work: now i realize that what i was trying to do was completely conceptual wrong (the end app) but i still think that the hangup should be imediate |
| 13:58.33 | guax | and that i need some english classes as well. but whatever. going lunch now, thanks for your help |
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| 14:05.01 | Katty | brr |
| 14:05.21 | Katty | so i am apparently only 1 of 3 people who decided to show up at work today. |
| 14:05.22 | ManxPower-work | guax: Does your agi setup a hangup callback? |
| 14:06.08 | TommyBotten | Katty: What's the occation? |
| 14:06.22 | ManxPower-work | It's already snowing here. |
| 14:06.31 | Katty | TommyBotten: 1.5 inches of fluffy white snow. |
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| 14:08.01 | Katty | TommyBotten: http://ustre.am/8H5d |
| 14:08.17 | ManxPower-work | Whoo! Whoo! It's supposed to actually get above freezing on Monday! (Huntsville, AL is not supposed to have 10 days of sub-freezing temps) |
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| 14:11.20 | Katty | the squirrels are at it! |
| 14:11.32 | Katty | glad i got more food for them (= |
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| 14:12.46 | TommyBotten | Katty: An that makes people not show up for work? ... ?? |
| 14:13.17 | Katty | well a combination of that and every school in ours and the surrounding 3 counties called off school (= |
| 14:13.22 | Katty | so a lot of people are at home with the kids. |
| 14:13.29 | TommyBotten | Ah.. ok |
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| 14:14.45 | Naikrovek | the snow is a bit of an inconvenience, emergency babysitter or whatever, but seriously. omg. look at all the snow. this is genuinely awesome |
| 14:14.57 | Katty | i almost didn't go to work today. but my car does not handle snow well and it scares the crap out of me |
| 14:15.10 | Naikrovek | i did reverse donuts in the van when i got into the parking lot and had loads of fun doing them |
| 14:15.40 | TommyBotten | Katty: I take it that you live in an area not very used to snow? |
| 14:16.35 | Katty | TommyBotten: well i wouldn't say that. quite a bit of snow gets dumped on us every year. |
| 14:16.40 | Katty | TommyBotten: but i have an itty bitty two door coupe. |
| 14:17.09 | Katty | TommyBotten: it's so light it just goes /everywhere/. luckily i picked up 50lbs of corn and 50lbs of sunflower seeds for the squirrels yesterday and still had it in my trunk. |
| 14:17.10 | TommyBotten | Katty: Hope summertime makes up for it then :) |
| 14:17.20 | Katty | TommyBotten: most definately. missouri is gorgeous. |
| 14:17.41 | TommyBotten | Katty: Sand bags (is that the correct English term?) is very good for that |
| 14:17.59 | Katty | sandbags = weight |
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| 14:18.06 | Katty | hi mister madsen. |
| 14:18.18 | Katty | you guys get your powdery white finish last night? |
| 14:22.22 | creativx | cocaine |
| 14:22.59 | Katty | i hear cocaine is pretty good |
| 14:23.06 | Katty | caffeinex100 |
| 14:23.13 | ManxPower-work | It doesn't usually fall from the sky, however. |
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| 14:24.21 | creativx | true |
| 14:24.34 | creativx | if it did it wouldnt be as popular |
| 14:24.41 | creativx | since the supply would be infinite |
| 14:26.55 | Katty | front yard is so pretty :> |
| 14:28.24 | Katty | cardinals everywhere int he snow :> |
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| 14:32.19 | Katty | they are just chowin down too |
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| 14:33.42 | guax | ManxPower-work: nope, actualy i was hanging up before process some data and saw that the hangup made no effect (even showing declined on softphone) |
| 14:33.58 | guax | then i put the sleep to se if it was true, and it is |
| 14:34.58 | ManxPower-work | guax: you need to handle the signal or you'll have zombie AGIs. See the sample AGI code in Asterisk's source tree |
| 14:36.55 | guax | i saw the zombies, but i dont care mutch about then, when the dial ends the script is back and do the normal clearing after do his job |
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| 14:44.54 | TommyBotten | Hwo do I set the speed for app_fax? |
| 14:47.08 | leifmadsen | TommyBotten: I think that is negotiated automatically by the end points |
| 14:47.56 | TommyBotten | leifmadsen: It seems so... but I would like to force it to a lower speed. Is that possible? |
| 14:48.08 | leifmadsen | possibly |
| 14:48.13 | leifmadsen | I don't know how though |
| 14:48.24 | Katty | hugs on leifmadsen |
| 14:48.25 | TommyBotten | Ok |
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| 14:48.32 | voipmonk | set the speed on the fax machine |
| 14:48.32 | TommyBotten | still thanks, though |
| 14:49.06 | Katty | SQUIRREL |
| 14:49.11 | voipmonk | lol |
| 14:49.17 | TommyBotten | voipmonk: Well, I don't have control of all the fax machines :p |
| 14:49.18 | voipmonk | is reminded of "Up" |
| 14:49.31 | voipmonk | then meditate my son... fohhhhcuhhhhhhsssss |
| 14:49.32 | Katty | lol |
| 14:49.38 | Katty | voipmonk: exactly. |
| 14:49.42 | Katty | voipmonk: i'm glad you caught my reference. |
| 14:49.51 | leifmadsen | re-hugs on Katty |
| 14:49.57 | leifmadsen | SQUIRREL! |
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| 14:52.58 | Katty | stuffing his little face :> |
| 14:53.08 | Katty | omnomnomnomnomsunflowerseedomnomnomnomnompeanut |
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| 14:55.08 | leifmadsen | nom nom nom is so 2009 |
| 14:55.26 | Heretic | lolcat is so 2009 |
| 14:55.33 | Heretic | now it's time for techno chicken |
| 14:55.44 | Katty | berrrkrberrrkberrkrkkrrrrrr |
| 14:55.53 | Katty | infobot: techno chicken |
| 14:56.11 | steve745 | anyone know what i have to do to fix mysql after updateing to Asterisk (Ver. 1.4.21.2) i can't login at all |
| 14:56.23 | Katty | infobot: techno chicken is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_2_EJogf2A |
| 14:56.24 | infobot | okay, Katty |
| 14:56.43 | beek | morning Katty |
| 14:56.44 | steve745 | i also did yum update if that helps but seems like it may have hurt me |
| 14:56.52 | Katty | hi beek |
| 14:57.48 | leifmadsen | steve745: what did you update from? you shouldn't have to do anything |
| 14:58.05 | leifmadsen | without logging information or debugging, there isn't much we can do |
| 14:58.08 | dmast | g'morning all |
| 14:58.23 | leifmadsen | morn |
| 14:59.26 | steve745 | well then i guess i will have to restore my last image because i need to access the cdr records |
| 14:59.38 | steve745 | thank god for backups |
| 14:59.39 | TommyBotten | Wow ... techno chicken really is 2010! |
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| 15:01.56 | Katty | hi tony |
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| 15:05.29 | steve745 | is there anyway that when i originate from *api and it dials an extension to not make the 1st called party hear the ring to the agents ext |
| 15:08.02 | [TK]D-Fender | steve745: Why would they hear ringing? Originate bridges on ANSWER/ |
| 15:09.00 | steve745 | when it happens there is like a half a ring , the agents are on auto answer |
| 15:09.13 | steve745 | is there maybe a tewak on xlite to respond faster |
| 15:09.22 | steve745 | err tweak |
| 15:09.24 | [TK]D-Fender | steve745: What "agents"? |
| 15:09.55 | steve745 | let me copy pastebin my originate command |
| 15:10.18 | [TK]D-Fender | steve745: And sorry, the 1st person gets called... then it dumps them towards #2. Perhaps you could provide a Cconcrete example |
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| 15:12.31 | steve745 | http://pastebin.org/72076 |
| 15:12.48 | FlaPer87 | hey guys, how can I start a conference during a call? is it possible? |
| 15:12.50 | steve745 | plz disreguard my custom internal var |
| 15:13.54 | TommyBotten | leifmadsen: If you're interested; res_fax.conf contains a set of variables that may also be set in the dialplan. All documented in digiums "fax_for_asterisk_admin_manual" |
| 15:14.16 | steve745 | brb gotta get coffee |
| 15:15.54 | telnettech | steve745: can you manually log into your MySQL from your asterisk server using the same credentials that you have setup for Asterisk to use? |
| 15:16.31 | telnettech | seve745: it maybe a network issue and not an asterisk issue. |
| 15:17.18 | steve745 | i can't acess mysql at all and either can my asterisk since i updated now i need to roll back my build |
| 15:18.47 | telnettech | if you cant access your MySQL manually from the Linux command line, then you have an issue with your connection. It wouldnt require you to roll back |
| 15:19.29 | telnettech | you should troubleshoot the connection issue |
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| 15:20.35 | steve745 | i can't connect from the tty as root asteriskuser notta |
| 15:22.12 | [TK]D-Fender | steAnd why not? |
| 15:22.21 | steve745 | i was on the mysql site last night i should just troubleshoot it but its holding me up from finishing my api, rollback would take 20-30 minutes |
| 15:23.05 | steve745 | i'm far from nix god so things are a bit harder for me |
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| 15:23.20 | [TK]D-Fender | steve745: Since when is it hard to log in via SSH? |
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| 15:23.41 | steve745 | it not' |
| 15:23.49 | [TK]D-Fender | steve745: And this isn't "nix god" material |
| 15:24.00 | steve745 | can i just rebuild mysql |
| 15:24.27 | [TK]D-Fender | steve745: My car is out of gas... guess I should just buy a new car..... |
| 15:24.28 | steve745 | i'm sure its because things have changed |
| 15:24.42 | steve745 | ok ok iget the point |
| 15:25.42 | steve745 | i'm just inpatient and wanna finish my api that needs the sql link |
| 15:27.41 | ManxPower-work | steve745: then you might want to fix your OPERATING SYSTEM PROBLEM before trying anything else. |
| 15:27.47 | p3nguin | as root asteriskuser notta <-- WTF is a root asterisk user notta? |
| 15:28.09 | ManxPower-work | odd. I'd think that would be "notty" not "notta" |
| 15:28.34 | ManxPower-work | But without context, the question is useless. |
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| 15:29.32 | rjek | Hi. Does anybody have any experience in using Cisco 79xx series IP phones running the SIP firmware with Asterisk? Specifically, getting feature codes to work. It appears our handsets either simple do not send anything (or the right thing) when keys like * and # are pressed mid-call. |
| 15:29.42 | steve745 | root or asteriskuser |
| 15:29.59 | p3nguin | rjek: What feature code? |
| 15:30.13 | rjek | p3nguin: Pretty much any of them. I'm using AsteriskNOW, incidentally. |
| 15:30.25 | rjek | I'm specifically interested in getting the attended call transfer one working. |
| 15:30.34 | p3nguin | Give me two examples of "feature codes." |
| 15:30.39 | ManxPower-work | rjek: go ask on the AsteriskNOW channel |
| 15:31.04 | voipmonk | rjek - the "feature codes" must be available in the context you're allowing the device to use ( check sip.conf ) |
| 15:31.10 | p3nguin | rjek: To transfer calls, press the xfre button on the phone, dial the number, wait on someone to answer, let him know you have a transfer, then hit xfer again. |
| 15:31.36 | rjek | p3nguin: Attented call transfer, remote call pickup. |
| 15:31.44 | rjek | voipmonk: I'll try that. |
| 15:31.47 | p3nguin | See above. |
| 15:31.53 | rjek | p3nguin: There is no tranfer button on the phone. |
| 15:32.02 | p3nguin | Then your phone is busted. |
| 15:32.07 | steve745 | lol |
| 15:32.07 | rjek | ManxPower-work: I thought I'd ask here first in case it was a general known issue, the asterisknow channel will be my next stop. |
| 15:32.10 | Chainsaw | rjek: There is, but it's under More. |
| 15:32.36 | p3nguin | Yep. Press More, it says "Trnsfer" |
| 15:32.47 | rjek | But that's not the only one. |
| 15:32.54 | p3nguin | on 7940/7960, anyway. |
| 15:33.25 | rjek | Other codes that are exposed, like "start call recording", etc, do not work mid-call, and Wireshark suggests the phone is sending nothing when non-numeric keys are pressed mid-call. |
| 15:33.43 | p3nguin | And it's the same on a 7912, too. |
| 15:33.46 | Katty | AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH |
| 15:34.04 | Katty | k, i feel better. |
| 15:35.05 | [TK]D-Fender | rjek: Sounds like you don't have the right DTMF mode enabled, or you aren't dialing the codes fast enough |
| 15:35.25 | p3nguin | I would say the correct Dial() options might not be used, too. |
| 15:35.50 | p3nguin | But without seeing config files, it's all just a guess. |
| 15:36.24 | rjek | [TK]D-Fender: That's what I'm thinking, but I have no idea how to configure that. :) |
| 15:36.34 | [TK]D-Fender | ~wikis |
| 15:36.35 | infobot | [~wikis] VoIP Wiki covering Asterisk, FreeSWITCH, TrixBox, SER, OpenSER, sipX, CallWeaver, and YATE. http://www.voip-info.org (c) Arte Marketing Inc / CommPartners |
| 15:36.50 | [TK]D-Fender | rjek: ^^^^^ and go try the various modes until you get it right |
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| 15:38.37 | rjek | ta |
| 15:38.50 | ManxPower-work | rjek: We don't know how to configure that in AsteriskNOW either. If you were not using AsteriskNOW you would just edit your sip.conf and put in dtmfmode=rfc2833 for the problem peer. You'll, of course, want to make sure the PHONE is configured for rfc2833 as well |
| 15:39.35 | rjek | There's a field in the web GUI for that, I'll make sure. |
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| 15:42.33 | rjek | Thank you for your input and guidance, gentlement. |
| 15:42.34 | rjek | -t |
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| 15:43.07 | Katty | hugs Deeewayne |
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| 15:43.36 | Deeewayne | offers Katty Apple and Cinnamon oatmeal |
| 15:44.15 | Skeeter- | If i get an inbound call from my land line the voicemail is in english. But if the calls come everywhere else, its in french |
| 15:44.18 | Katty | :> |
| 15:45.38 | Skeeter- | i edited: chan_dahdi.conf, sip.conf, iax.conf and /var/www/html/recordings/includes/lang.php |
| 15:45.44 | Skeeter- | what am i missing |
| 15:46.01 | Katty | http://i.imgur.com/r9aER.jpg <- good use for snow. |
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| 15:47.30 | ManxPower-work | The only good use for snow is to keep your beer cold. |
| 15:48.24 | Skeeter- | ManxPower-work, there is a lot other use ;) |
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| 15:48.43 | ManxPower-work | It's good for causing depression, I guess. |
| 15:49.15 | Skeeter- | ManxPower-work, where do u live...?? |
| 15:49.22 | ManxPower-work | Skeeter-: Huntsville, AL |
| 15:49.35 | ManxPower-work | I grew up in Michigan -- thats where I learned snow is evil. |
| 15:49.49 | Skeeter- | how much months of snow u had in michigan |
| 15:49.56 | ManxPower-work | I think the reason northerners don't think snow is evil is from the brain frostbite they get from living where it's cold enough for polarbears |
| 15:50.29 | Skeeter- | im 1 hour from the maine border and snow aint evil |
| 15:50.39 | ManxPower-work | Skeeter-: See: brain frostbite. |
| 15:51.01 | Skeeter- | ManxPower-work, i saw that one coming |
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| 15:54.42 | ruben23 | hi guys |
| 15:55.00 | p3nguin | Hmm, I just went through Huntsville the other day. |
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| 16:01.43 | SkramX | can I block an IP from registering a sip.conf item |
| 16:01.43 | SkramX | ? |
| 16:02.20 | ManxPower-work | SkramX: see allow=/deny= in sip.conf.sample |
| 16:02.33 | ManxPower-work | sorry, permit/deny |
| 16:02.37 | ManxPower-work | NOT allow |
| 16:02.50 | SkramX | right, allow is for codecs, isn't it? |
| 16:02.55 | ManxPower-work | correct |
| 16:02.58 | SkramX | thanks |
| 16:03.20 | ManxPower-work | SkramX: host= is for OUTGOING calls from Asterisk, BTW |
| 16:03.24 | Skeeter- | i cant believe no one is using asterisk voicemail under another language then english |
| 16:03.48 | p3nguin | You could also use iptables to filter the offending IP address. |
| 16:04.32 | leifmadsen | TommyBotten: ah coolio -- glad documentation exists! (I don't do fax, which is why I hadn't read that) |
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| 16:08.28 | squeeb | Hiya :) .. |
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| 16:08.49 | squeeb | Does anyone know how I can stop MixMonitor() from prefixing my calls with "asterisk-${UNIQUEID}" |
| 16:08.59 | squeeb | I thought it was in cdr.conf |
| 16:09.07 | Katty | it's your dialplan. name it whatever you want. |
| 16:09.24 | squeeb | but I can't find *why* it's putting asterisk- infront of my ${UNIQUEID} |
| 16:09.26 | p3nguin | That's what I was going to say. |
| 16:09.35 | squeeb | it's not in the dialplan |
| 16:09.36 | ManxPower-work | squeeb: Are you using a GUI? |
| 16:09.39 | squeeb | no |
| 16:10.00 | p3nguin | Are you using the MixMonitor in a queue? |
| 16:10.13 | squeeb | yea |
| 16:10.27 | ManxPower-work | squeeb: did you do a "core show application mixmonitor"? |
| 16:10.31 | ManxPower-work | notice the documentation |
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| 16:10.56 | squeeb | reading now |
| 16:11.04 | krang | Hey all, I'm looking to send and receive SMS messages to/from a piece of software, on a large scale (e.g. a cellphone connected to a PC won't cut it). I need a local number, and need to track the sender's phone number on the server. I realise this is OT, but I'm not sure where else to ask. Any help is appreciated! |
| 16:11.20 | blackxored | hello, I forgot my admin pwd for my asterisk admin interface lol of me, I have root access, how can I change that, I don't find any htpasswd file, and don't want to tweak the db without being sure |
| 16:11.21 | p3nguin | ; You can specify the monitor filename with by calling Set(MONITOR_FILENAME=foo) |
| 16:11.25 | p3nguin | ; Otherwise it will use MONITOR_FILENAME=${UNIQUEID} |
| 16:11.39 | ManxPower-work | krang: Are you in the USA or Canada? |
| 16:11.41 | squeeb | hmm, which is strange seeing how I haven't set MONITOR_FILENAME |
| 16:12.01 | p3nguin | That's why it uses the unique id. |
| 16:12.12 | squeeb | yea but the unique id is prefixing the word 'asterisk-' to it |
| 16:12.15 | ManxPower-work | blackxored: Asterisk does not have an ADMIN INTERFACE. Perhaps you should try asking on a channel dedicated to the GUI you are using? |
| 16:12.33 | ManxPower-work | did you miss the mention of asterisk.conf ? |
| 16:12.33 | blackxored | ManxPower-work, sorry I misspelled I'm using AsteriskNOW appliance |
| 16:12.38 | squeeb | ManxPower-work: checked |
| 16:12.39 | ManxPower-work | ~asterisknow |
| 16:12.40 | infobot | [asterisknow] based on Asterisk, but is difficult to support in #asterisk for a number of reasons. Please seek support in #asterisknow instead. |
| 16:12.49 | squeeb | systemname = ''; prefix uniqueid with a system name for global uniqueness issues |
| 16:12.53 | squeeb | ^ |
| 16:12.55 | blackxored | I see thanks |
| 16:12.58 | squeeb | '' != asterisk |
| 16:12.58 | squeeb | :} |
| 16:13.08 | krang | ManxPower-work: Canada, but I'd like something that works anywhere in N.A. if possible |
| 16:13.27 | blackxored | anyways thanks |
| 16:13.27 | ManxPower-work | krang: don't expect to use Asterisk for SMS in North America |
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| 16:13.46 | blackxored | the manager interface's pwd is the one at /etc/asterisk/manager.conf[:secret] right ? |
| 16:13.51 | ManxPower-work | Asterisk's SMS support is specific to the PSTN/FSK SMS used for Landline SMS in much of the world. |
| 16:14.14 | ManxPower-work | But not Cellular/Mobile SMS |
| 16:14.33 | krang | ManxPower-work: Well, that's good to know. Any hints on a next step? I really just need an external service provider who will provide me with phone numbers in North America and present a sent/receive interface to me for recurring fee, and am a bit lost for ideas. |
| 16:14.56 | krang | ManxPower-work: Yeah, I'd like a fully transparent 'SMS anywhere' service. |
| 16:15.12 | ManxPower-work | krang: sign up for a web based SMS service |
| 16:17.19 | Naikrovek | omfg 2245 people in #sparkfun |
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| 16:19.18 | bmoraca_work | they're giving away a lot of crap from what i hear |
| 16:21.34 | jaytee | I keep getting this warning since I uploaded a new musiconhold mp3 file on the 2nd of January. Music on hold seems to work ok but reloading the file and restarting has not fixed the issue. i suspect the original file is corrupt. previous mp3 files did not produce this error. |
| 16:21.39 | jaytee | WARNING[5123] interface.c: Junk at the beginning of frame 49443303 |
| 16:23.09 | Katty | too much JUNK in the TRUNK |
| 16:23.14 | jaytee | lol |
| 16:23.21 | Nivex | *rimshot* |
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| 16:24.17 | jaytee | this is a custom moh file produced for us by an outside company. I've already checked to ensure there are no ID3v1 or ID3v2 tags in it |
| 16:24.41 | jaytee | it's always reporting the same frame number in the warning. |
| 16:24.45 | p3nguin | Does it play normally using mplayer and/or mpg123? |
| 16:24.51 | Katty | what happens if you sox it |
| 16:25.04 | squeeb | I've had to convert some mp3 to alaw before to get it to work |
| 16:25.07 | squeeb | using sox |
| 16:25.15 | jaytee | p3nguin and Katty, haven't tried either |
| 16:25.17 | jaytee | I'll do that |
| 16:25.19 | Katty | H |
| 16:25.21 | Katty | ah |
| 16:25.25 | Katty | well lemme know how that works out |
| 16:25.44 | jaytee | the file works and plays, it just gives me that warning message on the console and in my logs |
| 16:25.52 | Katty | nods |
| 16:25.55 | Katty | irritating. |
| 16:25.59 | jaytee | yeah |
| 16:26.51 | squeeb | urrrrrrrgh, anyone know why 'asterisk-' is being preprended to my ${UNIQUEID} even when "systemname = '' " |
| 16:26.54 | squeeb | ? |
| 16:27.10 | Skeeter- | complete french asterisk = impossible |
| 16:27.22 | squeeb | eh? |
| 16:27.33 | Katty | i'm guessing he doesn't speak french. |
| 16:28.07 | squeeb | why would I speak french? |
| 16:28.42 | Skeeter- | only 1 failure tho |
| 16:28.52 | Skeeter- | then it would be perfect |
| 16:28.56 | squeeb | I'm confused. |
| 16:29.37 | Katty | you probably stay confused. |
| 16:29.38 | Skeeter- | if u get on someone voicemail from the land line the voicemail is in english |
| 16:29.38 | bmoraca_work | squeeb, might be the default if nothing is specified. why's it matter? |
| 16:29.39 | Katty | i know i do! |
| 16:30.01 | Katty | works on the grocery list. |
| 16:30.03 | Skeeter- | from anywhere else, it is in fnrehc |
| 16:30.05 | Katty | suggestions anyone? |
| 16:30.22 | Skeeter- | Cloudy with chances of meatballs |
| 16:30.29 | Katty | haven't seen it yet |
| 16:30.31 | squeeb | bmoraca_work: hmm, well I figured part of it out, I forgot to uncomment "[options]" in my asterisk.conf, now I have that uncommenteded and systemname set to '', it still adds a "-" before the ${UNIQUEID} |
| 16:30.50 | squeeb | IE: -1262881758.0" |
| 16:30.51 | ChannelZ | Katty: Pick up some global warming |
| 16:30.54 | Skeeter- | Katty, that was my suggestion |
| 16:31.02 | squeeb | Dunno where this "-" is coming from |
| 16:31.11 | bmoraca_work | squeeb, so set it to something that makes sense to you and deal with it. once again, i ask, why does it matter? if you know the unique ID, you can just add the prepended stuff to it |
| 16:31.34 | p3nguin | I'm sure it expects you to have a systemname that isn't a null value, so the - will probably remain. |
| 16:31.39 | squeeb | Because the database doesn't accept none-integers as the unique ID |
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| 16:32.17 | bmoraca_work | squeeb, the database doesn't need to have non-integers in the unique id. the prepended letters are added programatically. |
| 16:32.28 | ManxPower-work | That sounds like a design problem. |
| 16:32.48 | squeeb | I'm talking an external database. And yes, it probably is a design problem but as we didn't write the software for the external database we can't change it :P |
| 16:32.50 | ManxPower-work | If your database can't accept non-number data in a field that's supposed to hold a filename..... |
| 16:33.12 | ManxPower-work | squeeb: so postprocess the files. This should not be rocket science. |
| 16:33.15 | p3nguin | SOmeone goofed. |
| 16:33.43 | ManxPower-work | I can't imagine ever using the default MixMonitor/Monitor filenames. |
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| 16:35.37 | bmoraca_work | squeeb, yeah, sounds like you need to just rename the filename. simple system command should cut the mustard |
| 16:35.45 | squeeb | yea, working on that now |
| 16:36.00 | squeeb | just to strip it of it's systemname and - using sed |
| 16:36.38 | p3nguin | sigh |
| 16:36.51 | bmoraca_work | squeeb, why bother? just use "mv asterisk-${UNIQUEID} ${UNIQUEID}" |
| 16:37.06 | squeeb | .. oh yea |
| 16:37.06 | squeeb | :P |
| 16:37.41 | bmoraca_work | core show application system :P |
| 16:37.41 | Katty | touches up nail polish |
| 16:37.59 | [TK]D-Fender | [11:29]<Skeeter->if u get on someone voicemail from the land line the voicemail is in english <- YOUR fault |
| 16:38.19 | [TK]D-Fender | Skeeter-: * is completely capable of being multilingual |
| 16:38.24 | Katty | something tells me he doesn't care who's fault it is, he just wants it fixed. |
| 16:38.47 | Skeeter- | [TK]D-Fender, im 200% sure about that, but there is a missing settings that i dont know about |
| 16:38.49 | [TK]D-Fender | Something tells me he's..... WHINING IN THE WRONG CHANNEL |
| 16:39.08 | [TK]D-Fender | Skeeter-: Go back to HappyGUILand (tm) .... |
| 16:39.14 | Skeeter- | i edit sip.conf, iax.conf, chan_dahdi.conf |
| 16:39.14 | [TK]D-Fender | Skeeter-: This isn't an * problem. |
| 16:39.24 | Katty | would it make you feel better if i whined? |
| 16:39.28 | Katty | i am very good at it |
| 16:39.54 | Skeeter- | I never said that it is a problem, i want to know wat files need to be edited for the land line, i thogh it was chan_dahdi.conf |
| 16:40.19 | [TK]D-Fender | Skeeter-: Stop calling it a LAND LINE. Doesn't imply the interface it comes in on. |
| 16:40.42 | ariel_ | tzafrir: are you around for a question about xorcom astribank ? |
| 16:40.44 | Skeeter- | how do u want to call it |
| 16:40.55 | [TK]D-Fender | Skeeter-: What f-ing HARDWARE? |
| 16:40.59 | Katty | myyyy land line brings all the boys to the yard |
| 16:41.02 | Skeeter- | Sangoma of course |
| 16:41.05 | tzafrir | ariel_, yes |
| 16:41.12 | Katty | and they're like, it's better than yours |
| 16:41.17 | ariel_ | is it ok to pm you? |
| 16:41.19 | [TK]D-Fender | Skeeter-: that is a BRAND |
| 16:41.35 | ManxPower-work | Skeeter-: can you be more vague please. There are only like 50 Sangoma products. |
| 16:41.37 | Skeeter- | A200, thats the model |
| 16:41.49 | ManxPower-work | Skeeter- geta a gold star! |
| 16:41.55 | [TK]D-Fender | goes back to squeezing blood from stones... it's easier |
| 16:42.17 | Skeeter- | damn, he was the only with the answer again |
| 16:42.29 | [TK]D-Fender | Skeeter-: chan_dahdi.conf is the place to set the language from calls coming in from it then |
| 16:42.50 | ManxPower-work | [TK]D-Fender: I suspect he is setting the language after he specifies the channel |
| 16:43.03 | [TK]D-Fender | ManxPower-work: Don't cheat due process |
| 16:43.04 | Skeeter- | /etc/asterisk/chan_dahdi.conf, thats what i edited |
| 16:43.17 | [TK]D-Fender | Skeeter-: and that proves what to me? |
| 16:43.21 | ManxPower-work | Skeeter-: upload that file to pastebin.ca |
| 16:43.25 | Skeeter- | omw |
| 16:43.40 | ManxPower-work | [TK]D-Fender: screw due process. If he's guilty he's guilty. |
| 16:43.47 | ManxPower-work | Sorry, I was feeling very American for a moment. |
| 16:43.55 | Skeeter- | http://pastebin.com/m7748b4f7 |
| 16:44.00 | Katty | i can feel the hate |
| 16:44.05 | Katty | THE DARK SIDE OF THE FORCE |
| 16:44.08 | Katty | IS POWERFUL IN THIS PLACE |
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| 16:44.36 | ManxPower-work | Skeeter-: we don't support GUIs for Asterisk here. |
| 16:45.01 | ghenry | Hi, in 1.4 how can you send back Busy Here 486? |
| 16:45.08 | ghenry | For use in AGi |
| 16:45.20 | Katty | hi. |
| 16:45.22 | Katty | how are you |
| 16:45.54 | ghenry | good thanks |
| 16:45.59 | Katty | excellent |
| 16:46.32 | ManxPower-work | ghenry: I doubt you can, but if you can you would use Hangup(XX) where XX is the Q.931 cause code. You'll have to experiment to see which one sends back a 486. Or you can just execute Busy() |
| 16:46.56 | ghenry | OK, thanks |
| 16:47.21 | Katty | so, i was thinking lunch. |
| 16:47.33 | Katty | and the thought sounded pretty good. |
| 16:48.18 | Katty | tata (= |
| 16:48.20 | Katty | leafs. |
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| 16:52.16 | squeeb | urgh, any idea on setting the umask for asterisk ? |
| 16:52.48 | squeeb | nvm |
| 16:52.55 | squeeb | asctlpermissions :} |
| 16:54.09 | Skeeter- | if you guys dont use any gui or watever, thats mean that you have like thousands of scripts to make all dialplans??? |
| 16:54.24 | p3nguin | just vim |
| 16:54.27 | squeeb | no, we just edit extensions.conf or extensions.ael |
| 16:54.55 | danj1980 | Skeeter-: we write our dialplans manually. |
| 16:55.18 | Skeeter- | danj1980, that must take hours |
| 16:55.38 | squeeb | not really |
| 16:55.50 | bmoraca_work | Skeeter-, i wrote a dialplan that supports huntgroups and an infinite number of peers/trunks to other PBXes that's only 122 lines long including comments...took about 2 hours total |
| 16:55.56 | squeeb | takes a few hours to get everything working, but once the infrastructure is in place, it's relativly easy to add/modify bits |
| 16:56.19 | Skeeter- | ok i see |
| 16:56.38 | Skeeter- | but once u get a base/sample, dont u just copy it over |
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| 16:57.39 | *** join/#asterisk donnib (n=donnib@0x555281d0.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 16:57.43 | donnib | hi |
| 16:58.17 | donnib | if i am in a call with somebody can i divert the call to a conference room ? i mean are there some tricks for doing that ? |
| 16:58.47 | Naikrovek | transfer it to the conference room, then join the conference room yourself |
| 16:58.53 | Naikrovek | i think that works... |
| 16:58.56 | ManxPower-work | donnib: press the TRANSFER button on your phone, dial the conference room extension, press TRANSFER again. (this is valid for Polycom phones, I don't know about others) |
| 16:59.16 | donnib | i am on a cell phone so there is no TRANSFER button |
| 16:59.19 | donnib | other options ? |
| 16:59.20 | Naikrovek | oh |
| 16:59.58 | bmoraca_work | enable dtmf transfers in your features.conf |
| 17:00.03 | bmoraca_work | *2 is default |
| 17:00.06 | donnib | but then again i guess it does not make any sense when i think more about it |
| 17:00.27 | Naikrovek | it's okay, donnib. most ideas die that way. |
| 17:00.27 | donnib | ok let me try *2 |
| 17:00.40 | ManxPower-work | donnib: the more specific your question the better your answers. |
| 17:00.46 | ManxPower-work | You just discovered this for yourself. |
| 17:00.53 | donnib | Naikrovek: yeah i guess so, i soon as u try to explain the idea u realize that it might not make sense :) |
| 17:01.16 | bmoraca_work | donnib, when the call is transfered out to your cellphone, you'll need to include the appropriate Dial() option to allow the called party to initiate a DTMF transfer, though. I believe it's T, though it might be t |
| 17:04.46 | donnib | ok let me explain now. I call from my cell to a asterisk DID calls go thru and somebody picks up and they start to talk, suddenly the guy receiving the call realizes that somebody needs to join in and discuss an issue so he wants to transfer the guy on the phone (cell) to the conference X and then join self as well or at least call in afterwards, in this way others can join the call |
| 17:05.50 | donnib | i tried the TRANSFER button but that puts the cell user on hold while the asterisk user is joining the conference, i need the cell user to join the conference |
| 17:06.08 | *** join/#asterisk aidinb (n=Aidin@24-182-32-138.static.lnbh.ca.charter.com) |
| 17:06.42 | bmoraca_work | donnib, this can be accomplished mostly transparently via AMI...you could use a custom feature code which calls an external script |
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| 17:09.56 | donnib | so there is no easy way to do this |
| 17:15.10 | bmoraca_work | what you're asking is pretty complex |
| 17:15.38 | squeeb | is there any way to make asterisk write it's MixMonitor files with permissions of 775 |
| 17:15.46 | squeeb | it seems to do 640 |
| 17:15.59 | Naikrovek | 775? |
| 17:16.03 | squeeb | or 750 |
| 17:16.04 | Naikrovek | why do you want them to be executable |
| 17:16.09 | bmoraca_work | you don't need to execute them. |
| 17:16.17 | squeeb | 644 then |
| 17:16.19 | bmoraca_work | and, as always, you can chmod them after they're written |
| 17:16.52 | Naikrovek | what do you want to do - you want someone other than the asterisk user to be able to read the files, yes? |
| 17:17.05 | Naikrovek | he left? |
| 17:17.15 | Naikrovek | .. okay. |
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| 17:19.27 | telnettech | donnib: isnt there a conference button on the phone that you answered the call with? |
| 17:19.36 | donnib | yes |
| 17:19.48 | Naikrovek | there ya go - use the cell phone to do the 3-way |
| 17:20.06 | donnib | as i read around there should be an option blind transfer which i have to use ## but that does not work |
| 17:20.17 | Naikrovek | not on a cell phone |
| 17:20.39 | donnib | yeah but the cell phone pays two line when in exchange if i transfer the call to the conf from the asterisk then he only pays one |
| 17:21.02 | telnettech | donnib: if you push that conference button 1st, it will put the person on hold and give you dial tone......you would then call the person that you need to bring onto the call |
| 17:21.32 | telnettech | donnib: once that person answers you should be able to push the conference button again and bring all parties onto the same line |
| 17:21.56 | telnettech | what model of phone are you using for the DID number? |
| 17:22.11 | donnib | telnettech: well yeah but that doesn't work. i want to do the transfer stuff from the phone that's on the asterisk. |
| 17:22.32 | donnib | it's a DECT phone which is connected with an adaptor to asterisk |
| 17:22.46 | telnettech | there is no need to transfer the call........you should get the conference button working |
| 17:23.16 | donnib | what conf button ? |
| 17:23.34 | ManxPower-work | donnib: on analog adapers most features are handled by the analog adapter, not Asterisk. |
| 17:23.35 | telnettech | donnib: then you will need to setup a feature code for conferencing in your feature.conf |
| 17:23.43 | ManxPower-work | you should read the documentation for your ATA |
| 17:24.22 | donnib | ManxPower-work: thx, ill look into the ATA |
| 17:24.58 | ManxPower-work | In the future please tell us the hardware you are using at the start of your question, not half way troubleshooting |
| 17:25.10 | donnib | ManxPower-work: sorry about that |
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| 17:31.32 | ManxPower-work | ~ask |
| 17:31.33 | infobot | Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will. |
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| 17:34.43 | bmoraca | damn computer |
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| 17:40.05 | Katty | hi |
| 17:40.08 | Katty | i has chocolate. |
| 17:40.18 | Katty | oh hey. trash pickup is at the house. |
| 17:40.40 | Katty | bye bye trash pickup people |
| 17:42.02 | guax | can has cheezburger? |
| 17:43.38 | Katty | sure! |
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| 17:44.51 | bmoraca_work | i swear to god, if hyperterminal crashes my computer again, i'm going to throw it out a window |
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| 17:45.12 | Katty | sells tickets to up coming event. |
| 17:45.31 | ManxPower-work | hands bmoraca a copy of PuTTY |
| 17:45.41 | bmoraca_work | putty doesn't do telnet |
| 17:45.45 | ManxPower-work | (yes, it supports serial connections and telnet) |
| 17:46.23 | bmoraca_work | shhh, i never look below the "host" field |
| 17:46.27 | bmoraca_work | stupid radio buttons |
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| 17:48.47 | Katty | ugah |
| 17:48.48 | Katty | tooo sweet |
| 17:48.51 | Katty | ill. |
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| 18:04.59 | Katty | http://gizmodo.com/5442217/the-laptop-to-end-all-laptops <- friggin awesome. |
| 18:07.13 | Katty | so, i think when a cop pulls you over |
| 18:07.19 | Katty | you should be rewarded for all the good things you're doing |
| 18:07.27 | Katty | and that you should be pulled over randomly, not just Bad Drivers |
| 18:08.06 | Katty | if you were driving the speed limit, you should get a free soda! |
| 18:08.22 | Katty | if your tags aren't expired, you should get a cookie! |
| 18:08.43 | Katty | if you're wearing your seat belt, you should get a chick-fil-a coupon! |
| 18:08.50 | Katty | OH WAIT, south carolina is DOING THAT! |
| 18:08.56 | Katty | http://consumerist.com/2010/01/south-carolina-cops-rewarding-seatbelted-drivers-with-chick-fil-a-coupons.html |
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| 18:12.18 | dmast | moves to SC |
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| 18:28.15 | vosque | on 1.6.2.0 outbound SIP calls being dropped after 30 seconds is usually a sign of NAT issues between the phone and the asterisk server, yes? I have read that 30 seconds is a magic number or sorts. |
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| 18:33.01 | ManxPower-work | ROFL! One of our sales reps reported a problem. When he dialed a number off a cold call list it rings twice then gives a dialtone. Apparently someone didn't secure their DISA since I was able to dial my cell phone from that random PBX's dialtone. |
| 18:33.16 | ManxPower-work | No, I'm not giving out the number. 8-| |
| 18:33.17 | p3nguin | lol |
| 18:33.25 | Qwell | *facepalm* |
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| 18:35.14 | drumkilla | try calling some 900 numbers through it |
| 18:35.15 | ruben23 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:35.59 | malcolmd | hmm...what do we have here? http://downloads.digium.com/pub/telephony/codec_siren7 and http://downloads.digium.com/pub/telephony/codec_siren14 ... |
| 18:36.59 | Qwell | malcolmd: The cats are now running around destroying furniture! |
| 18:37.07 | Qwell | good job letting them out of the bag, sir. :D |
| 18:37.09 | malcolmd | oh noes! |
| 18:37.58 | mr_ian | siren14 = g.722.1 annex C ? |
| 18:37.59 | malcolmd | note to all: yes, we're aware of a bug in transcoding siren7 to siren14, we're working on it; otherwise, have fun. :D |
| 18:38.13 | malcolmd | mr_ian: yes, siren14 is G.722.1C |
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| 18:38.35 | Qwell | malcolmd: You forgot to mention the best part about the modules |
| 18:38.43 | Qwell | the 4 letter F word |
| 18:38.47 | malcolmd | funn? |
| 18:38.51 | malcolmd | ffun? |
| 18:39.04 | Qwell | free (as in beer)! |
| 18:39.04 | mr_ian | I've been digging through everything trying to figure out if, or how, to make wideband work |
| 18:39.04 | malcolmd | better, they're free |
| 18:39.08 | mr_ian | and here you are! |
| 18:39.14 | malcolmd | blog post will be forthcoming |
| 18:39.17 | mr_ian | :) cool |
| 18:39.20 | Qwell | mr_ian: well, G.722 has been supported for a while |
| 18:39.30 | ManxPower-work | mr_ian: use 1.6 it has support for wideband |
| 18:41.14 | ManxPower-work | What are the advantages of Siren7 and 14 .vs. standard G722? |
| 18:42.03 | mr_ian | I believe I am on 1.6... ;) it'd the where, and the how... and the "which", so digging into codecs... obviously g722 is the one i'm looking for. |
| 18:42.11 | mr_ian | siren7 is better compressed |
| 18:42.22 | mr_ian | siren14 is "super-wideband" |
| 18:42.42 | mr_ian | 14 kHz, instead of 7kHz |
| 18:42.57 | mr_ian | ;) standard g722 is also 7kHz |
| 18:44.49 | p3nguin | ruben23: What's on the to-do list for today? |
| 18:46.07 | Naikrovek | oh hells yes re: siren7 & 14 |
| 18:46.15 | ManxPower-work | It's still snowing here in Huntsville, AL |
| 18:46.33 | Katty | well keep it over there |
| 18:46.33 | Katty | cause i don't want anymore |
| 18:47.00 | p3nguin | We got less than three inches, here. |
| 18:47.02 | Katty | the squirrels are not pleased with wet paws. |
| 18:47.15 | ManxPower-work | We normally get like 2" of snow in an entire year |
| 18:47.27 | ManxPower-work | normally LESS than 2" per year |
| 18:47.44 | Katty | squirrel and cardinal are sharing the tray this afternoon. |
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| 18:49.23 | ruben23 | p3nguin: just saying hi..:) |
| 18:50.11 | mr_ian | it's still NOT snowing here :) |
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| 18:50.32 | mr_ian | waves hello from Canada |
| 18:50.33 | Naikrovek | mr_ian: 14kHz in terms of frequency response? |
| 18:50.50 | Naikrovek | not sample rate? |
| 18:50.56 | mr_ian | Naikrovek: must be, i believe they all sample at 16 |
| 18:51.00 | Naikrovek | k |
| 18:51.01 | Naikrovek | yeah |
| 18:51.17 | Naikrovek | that is some pretty damned wide-band audio there for a phone |
| 18:51.29 | mr_ian | going from a 7000Hz band, to 14000Hz band |
| 18:51.45 | mr_ian | yeah, this is actually pretty awesome |
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| 18:51.55 | Naikrovek | i gotta start buying IP335's now |
| 18:52.14 | Naikrovek | got a box of 321's I still need to use. be a while before I can get a 335 |
| 18:52.49 | mr_ian | i'm way more interested in attaching music-quality sound channels, than cell-phone-quality... |
| 18:52.51 | malcolmd | siren7 samples at 16kHz and has a range of 7kHz; siren14 samples at 32kHz and has a range of 14kHz |
| 18:52.59 | Naikrovek | mr_ian: yes, same |
| 18:53.11 | Katty | hi malcolmd |
| 18:53.12 | Naikrovek | but to be fair g711 is better than cell phone |
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| 18:53.25 | ManxPower-work | MONO music channels you meanl |
| 18:53.25 | malcolmd | mr_ian: try my g.719 pass-through patch on the issue tracker |
| 18:53.38 | mr_ian | i'm thinking g729 isn't much better |
| 18:53.57 | Naikrovek | g729 isn't much better than cell phones, no. the more i use g729 the more i want g711 |
| 18:54.00 | mr_ian | ManxPower-work: yeah, well |
| 18:54.12 | mr_ian | what i *want* and what I get... |
| 18:54.52 | ManxPower-work | bah, just use to phones, each phone playing one channel of the stereo music |
| 18:54.58 | mr_ian | everyone is pushing the limits of this technology on one edge or the other |
| 18:55.17 | ManxPower-work | s/to/two/ |
| 18:55.28 | mr_ian | my needs aren't everyones... |
| 18:56.02 | Katty | i have different needs. |
| 18:56.06 | Katty | much, much different needs. |
| 18:56.10 | Naikrovek | one size fits none |
| 18:56.17 | Katty | for example, i need lip balm more than i need g729 codecs. |
| 18:56.35 | mr_ian | i appreciate the need for g729, but i don't expect it to do anything exciting for me ;) |
| 18:56.36 | Naikrovek | what happened to the lips of people who existed before lip balm |
| 18:56.44 | Katty | olive oil |
| 18:56.55 | Naikrovek | what about in places where olive oil wasn't available |
| 18:56.55 | ManxPower-work | animal fat |
| 18:57.00 | p3nguin | buffalo dung |
| 18:57.03 | jaytee | when all is said and done, more will be said than done |
| 18:57.16 | ManxPower-work | rum some of that bison grease on the lips |
| 18:57.26 | Katty | olive oil actually works very nicely. |
| 18:57.35 | Katty | unfortunately, olive oil takes OFF makeup |
| 18:57.39 | Katty | so yeah. |
| 18:57.52 | Katty | if you ever need to clean cosmetic (makeup) brushes, use olive oil! |
| 18:58.55 | Katty | do not use mineral oil. ever. |
| 18:59.06 | Katty | bad juju. |
| 19:00.06 | Naikrovek | you can't say that people always had a solution for their lips |
| 19:00.20 | Naikrovek | i'd be willing to bet that people didn't even have chapped lips until someone sold them a cure for it |
| 19:00.28 | p3nguin | haha |
| 19:00.39 | Katty | probably |
| 19:00.46 | Katty | but why would i just let myself suffer? |
| 19:01.12 | Katty | especially when i have... |
| 19:01.13 | Katty | counts |
| 19:01.49 | Katty | 10 lip products in my bag. |
| 19:01.56 | ManxPower-work | <droll tone> Katty, I've been searching for years for an easy way to get off my makeup</droll tone> |
| 19:02.24 | Naikrovek | one gets chapped lips when they lick their lips and do it too infrequently. don't do it: fine. do it enough and your lips remain moist in any weather |
| 19:02.28 | ManxPower-work | Your lips must be pretty busy to need all those products. |
| 19:02.36 | carrar | heh |
| 19:02.40 | Katty | *hee* |
| 19:03.14 | Naikrovek | i don't think i've ever worn chap-stik or anything like that and i've worked in some pretty barren dry places |
| 19:03.21 | Katty | actually they're not bad at all, i just seem to have a weird obsession with trying every lip product i find. |
| 19:03.40 | Naikrovek | you love your lips and want them to be full and attractive probably |
| 19:03.49 | Naikrovek | not like dried up and aged lookin |
| 19:03.54 | Naikrovek | reasonable, i'd say |
| 19:04.15 | Katty | i dunno, but if there's a new thing by the checkout lanes, or in the cosmetic department, i have to try it |
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| 19:04.46 | Corydon76-dig | Katty: PT Barnum loves you |
| 19:05.02 | Katty | the best, even after probably 100 different products, is blistek's Lip Medex |
| 19:05.29 | Corydon76-dig | slaps a $1000 price tag on a turd and dangles it in front of Katty |
| 19:05.40 | Naikrovek | haha |
| 19:05.45 | Katty | no it has to be in a pretty package |
| 19:05.47 | Naikrovek | does it have glitter on it? |
| 19:05.49 | Naikrovek | :D |
| 19:05.50 | Katty | like Dior's Lip addict Glow |
| 19:05.53 | p3nguin | Put it in the checkout lanes and someone will certainly buy it. |
| 19:06.07 | Katty | i want to try it, but i can't seem to stomach the price tag. |
| 19:06.35 | Katty | supposedly it's 'heat activated' and turns various shades of pink |
| 19:06.42 | p3nguin | Did you ever try that lip explosion stuff? |
| 19:06.53 | Corydon76-dig | Katty: I guarantee that if you try this product, you'll never lick your lips twice |
| 19:06.55 | Naikrovek | sounds traumatic |
| 19:07.21 | Katty | p3nguin: no |
| 19:07.33 | Katty | p3nguin: i look for balms, not color or plumping |
| 19:08.26 | Corydon76-dig | actually has a pretty good supply of rabbit poop |
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| 19:09.13 | Katty | http://www.overstockdrugstore.com/product_images/b/041388000091.jpg <- still the best. |
| 19:09.14 | Katty | and it's like, 2 bucks. |
| 19:09.19 | jaytee | wonders why anyone would want to save rabbit poop |
| 19:09.37 | Naikrovek | fertilizer? |
| 19:09.39 | Corydon76-dig | jaytee: good fertilizer |
| 19:09.57 | Katty | do you garden in the spring? |
| 19:10.16 | Corydon76-dig | I have a pile outside, mixed with urine-soaked pine sawdust |
| 19:10.16 | jaytee | ah, yes. I think I recall one of my hippie friends mentioning it was good for certain "types" of plants |
| 19:10.19 | Naikrovek | there's this whole circle of life thing that people don't understand. animals eat food that grows out of the ground, they poop, feeding the plants next year, which feeds more animals, etc. |
| 19:10.29 | carrar | do you garden by the pale moonlight? |
| 19:10.34 | jaytee | people around here are always begging me for elephant poop |
| 19:10.42 | Katty | ^_- |
| 19:10.44 | Katty | seriously? |
| 19:10.49 | Katty | whatever for? |
| 19:10.56 | carrar | killer shit |
| 19:10.58 | Naikrovek | fer throwin |
| 19:11.10 | Corydon76-dig | No, that's monkey poop |
| 19:11.12 | beek | hops back onto the IRC channel, thinking he was getting into the Asterisk channel. |
| 19:11.36 | Katty | beek: we don't talk about asterisk here. that'd be before, donchaknow |
| 19:11.42 | carrar | jaytee, is that the result of eating elephant ears? |
| 19:11.59 | Katty | carrar: that's the result of him feeding the elephants little debbie cakes. |
| 19:12.05 | carrar | heh |
| 19:12.11 | Katty | true story! |
| 19:12.40 | Corydon76-dig | btw, the giant rabbit puts out poops the size of marbles |
| 19:12.45 | beek | Katty: It certainly couldn't get any further off topic than poop. |
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| 19:15.06 | Corydon76-dig | from lip product to poop |
| 19:15.30 | Naikrovek | covered the entire digestive system in like 3 mintues |
| 19:15.42 | carrar | they share some ingredients don't they? |
| 19:16.00 | Naikrovek | Katty: you seen this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev-opyE2AeU&feature=player_embedded |
| 19:16.26 | beek | Corydon76-dig: It just doesn't get any better. |
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| 19:18.00 | carrar | http://bestinbeauty.com/top-10-strangest-ingredients.aspx |
| 19:18.17 | carrar | Bird Poop, sorry my bad |
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| 19:21.34 | Brady1408 | Hey guys I'm thinking about running AsteriskNow but I can't seem to find a minimum hardware compatibility list anyone have a suggestion? it's a VM so mostly I want to keep the HD as small as possible |
| 19:21.46 | blebleble | is there a command or way to create a feature code to take a line out of 'in use'? |
| 19:22.52 | ManxPower-work | Brady1408: I suggest you ask on the #asteriskNOW channel as virtually nobody on this channel uses it. |
| 19:23.14 | ManxPower-work | ~guis |
| 19:23.15 | infobot | guis is, like, "FreePBX/Trixbox is to Asterisk as Windows 95 is to DOS" |
| 19:23.20 | Brady1408 | MauxPower-work thank you I didn't realize there was one I will move there |
| 19:24.03 | jaytee | sorry, had to step away for a moment |
| 19:24.18 | jaytee | people ask me for elephant shit for their gardens |
| 19:24.35 | jaytee | but we can't give it away due to legal issues |
| 19:25.00 | p3nguin | You're a zookeeper? |
| 19:25.09 | jaytee | no, but I work at a zoo |
| 19:25.13 | p3nguin | oh |
| 19:25.40 | p3nguin | What do you guys do with the elephant poop? |
| 19:26.20 | jaytee | we ship it offsite. if we had the space to compost it for a year we could sell it in our White River Gardens gift shop but we don't have the space. |
| 19:26.51 | jaytee | several zoos sell it as fertilizer, I think the Seattle Zoo calls theirs ZooDoo. |
| 19:27.31 | jaytee | one of our elephant keepers actually "sculpts" with it and makes stuff, sterilizes and then seals it. |
| 19:31.01 | leifmadsen | jaytee: what are the legal issues? |
| 19:31.16 | leifmadsen | like disease control etc.. ? |
| 19:32.17 | beek | leifmadsen: It's not that. It's only the politicians in Washington who are allowed to produce and sell shit. |
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| 19:32.26 | leifmadsen | :) |
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| 19:34.56 | ariel_ | leifmadsen: I agree |
| 19:35.16 | ariel_ | and how there dishing out the shit this year. |
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| 19:36.46 | sbrath | Has anyone seen/experience with SIP phones with built in VPN ? |
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| 19:46.11 | seanjohn | what is the correct way to use Callerid(ani)? Set(callerid(ani)=<5555551212>) Set(callerid(ani)=5555551212) Set(callerid(ani)="someone"<5555551212>) |
| 19:46.41 | leifmadsen | seanjohn: uppercase |
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| 19:46.51 | leifmadsen | Set(CALLERID(ani)=4165551212) |
| 19:47.17 | leifmadsen | seanjohn: all dialplan functions must be in uppercase |
| 19:48.27 | ManxPower-work | seanjohn: Callerid never has non-numbers like " or < or - or . in them |
| 19:49.42 | seanjohn | i was being lazy, madsen; my code is perfect |
| 19:49.50 | seanjohn | thanks |
| 19:51.01 | Brady1408 | I know the is objective but in general what is the most commone OS or OSs that you guys run Asterisk on? |
| 19:51.17 | carrar | AtariOS |
| 19:51.25 | [TK]D-Fender | Brady1408: Linux |
| 19:51.38 | Brady1408 | lol thanks [TK]D-Fender |
| 19:51.58 | carrar | Oh asterisk, not Asteroids |
| 19:52.15 | [TK]D-Fender | Brady1408: Was made for Linux, can run on others |
| 19:52.15 | seanjohn | brady, most people use Centos |
| 19:52.29 | seanjohn | Centos is a distro of linux |
| 19:52.32 | Brady1408 | is was more the flavor of linux I was curious about |
| 19:52.50 | ManxPower-work | I just got a hangupcause 21 on a call. Never seen THAT one before. |
| 19:52.53 | Naikrovek | Brady1408: usually centos it seems, but i like debian and ubuntu |
| 19:52.54 | jaytee | kind of a mocha pecan flavor |
| 19:53.06 | seanjohn | Brady1408: System Uptime: 1 year, 3 days, 21 hours, 4 minutes |
| 19:53.10 | carrar | Hazzlenut |
| 19:53.16 | jaytee | 21? me neither |
| 19:53.34 | jaytee | I'd have to go to my qsig docs and look it up |
| 19:53.41 | seanjohn | try that with windows and see what problems you run into |
| 19:53.43 | Brady1408 | nice Thanks honestly those would have been my first two choices |
| 19:54.09 | seanjohn | brady, if you want to go with debian or ubuntu, I would choose debian; its more asterisk friendly |
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| 19:54.31 | Brady1408 | thank you seanjohn I was leaning towards ubuntu so that helps a lot |
| 19:55.03 | Skeeter- | I would like to know what tools to use so the receptionists can monitor asterisk?? |
| 19:55.03 | jaytee | I could have over a year's uptime easy if I didn't deliberately take the server down after updating software or major config changes to make an new Acronis image for rapid restore. |
| 19:55.56 | seanjohn | jaytee, the only time you need to restart is to make a kernel upgrade in effect |
| 19:56.05 | seanjohn | or, of course, hardware |
| 19:56.23 | jaytee | seanjohn, you didn't understand my statement |
| 19:57.02 | seanjohn | you didn't get my point; I was versing windows uptimes |
| 19:57.17 | seanjohn | :) |
| 19:57.25 | jaytee | seanjohn, ah ok in that case I heartily agree |
| 19:57.45 | seanjohn | you install something USB in windows, you still have to restart sometimes |
| 19:58.02 | seanjohn | what a retarded OS |
| 19:58.17 | jaytee | you're preaching to the choir |
| 19:58.32 | carrar | RE TODD DID |
| 19:58.34 | carrar | err |
| 19:58.36 | carrar | WE TODD DID |
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| 19:58.48 | seanjohn | you can't live without windows for everything though; this terminal I'm on is windows which I use to control the LInux machines |
| 19:59.23 | leifmadsen | seanjohn: I should have been too lazy to bother answering |
| 19:59.27 | jaytee | I'm running Ubuntu Hardy as my desktop but I have a 2 port KVM and I also run Win7 for testing |
| 20:00.07 | seanjohn | I dont' think linux will do Eyefinity |
| 20:00.12 | seanjohn | yet |
| 20:00.24 | leifmadsen | I prefer Ubuntu server and CentOS over any other distro |
| 20:00.29 | leifmadsen | debian is too out of date |
| 20:00.41 | leifmadsen | I'd never use their packages either (personally) |
| 20:00.48 | Naikrovek | out of date with security fixes = stable |
| 20:00.51 | seanjohn | i compile everything |
| 20:01.05 | jaytee | packages, shmackages......pfffffft. ....... real men compile |
| 20:01.08 | seanjohn | I was wrong about the eyefinity |
| 20:01.11 | leifmadsen | I haven't had kernel panic or system issue for years |
| 20:01.15 | tzafrir | leifmadsen, Debian is newer than Centos |
| 20:01.16 | seanjohn | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NzUyNQ |
| 20:01.26 | Naikrovek | not saying ubuntu isn't stable, i use ubuntu server as well |
| 20:01.33 | Naikrovek | and it is superior to debian imho |
| 20:01.56 | tzafrir | (latest stable releases) |
| 20:02.16 | sbrath | Ubuntu is usually the first to patch an issue, and debian pulls it back to them. |
| 20:02.54 | seanjohn | I think my email and dns are the most secure |
| 20:03.26 | seanjohn | ssh gives 3 attempts and bans for a year |
| 20:03.33 | Naikrovek | a year |
| 20:03.34 | Naikrovek | ? |
| 20:03.41 | Naikrovek | that's a bit paranoid |
| 20:03.41 | seanjohn | local network exempt of course |
| 20:03.45 | sbrath | Centos/Redhat always seemed to me to hack standard packages in a way I didn't like ... |
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| 20:04.00 | Naikrovek | redhat and centos are overrated i think |
| 20:04.01 | seanjohn | no naik, the other users know to call in if they get banned |
| 20:04.10 | Naikrovek | seanjohn: ah |
| 20:04.17 | seanjohn | if they have a habit, I add their subnet to exempt |
| 20:04.27 | ManxPower-work | I like CentOS for server, Fedora for workstation. |
| 20:05.19 | sbrath | redhat always favored pulling patches from a 2.x branch of some program ( say SSH ) back to the 1.x branch, in an effort to keep them stable... But confuse the hell out of people who look at some wierd Redhat only version number like 1.965 which was a Redhat patched 1.9 with 2.x stuff pulled back on it.... |
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| 20:05.54 | seanjohn | I use eyefinity for programming on several displays; its different than just have multiple displays. I can span a shell window I need to be big across two or more 20 inch stacked widescreens |
| 20:06.30 | seanjohn | i have 4, 2 stacked |
| 20:07.07 | sbrath | so while we're comparing distros, can I again poll about phones... Any pros/cons for Aastr 480i (discontinued) or 9480i, vs GrandStream 2020 vs Cisco 7960 et al... I'd like G722 audio, and some sort of encryption would be nice. |
| 20:07.20 | ManxPower-work | ~phones |
| 20:07.21 | infobot | While personal preference will dictate which phone works best for you, general consensus on a rough order of quality and suggestibility is as follows: Polycom (any), Aastra 480i, Aastra 5i Series, Linksys SPA-9XX, Snom, everything else, and finally Grandstream phones. Do not consider Cisco phones. Ever. |
| 20:07.29 | leifmadsen | sbrath: most of those phones are going to be very out of date for G722 and encryption |
| 20:07.50 | Naikrovek | sbrath: polycom ip 335 has g722 but don't know about encryption |
| 20:08.02 | leifmadsen | asterisk has to support encryption first |
| 20:08.09 | leifmadsen | (if you're using it with asterisk) |
| 20:08.15 | ManxPower-work | I'm not aware of any SIP Phones that do VPN. |
| 20:08.42 | jozza | hi all, what kind of machine would be suitable for about 1500 sip extensions? |
| 20:09.05 | leifmadsen | jozza: question not defined well enough -- registrations only -- nearly anything built in the last 1-2 years |
| 20:09.14 | leifmadsen | handling calls is a totally different issue |
| 20:09.34 | sbrath | ManxPower-work: The Zycoo ZP502 does have a VPN in it, but it seems to be a new/un-tested/cheap platform. |
| 20:09.49 | jozza | if all call were bridged and probable max load would be 100 calls |
| 20:10.39 | sbrath | The grandstream 2020 has G722, Aastra dosen't have G722... |
| 20:10.54 | [TK]D-Fender | jozza: Any relatively modern PC could do |
| 20:11.15 | jozza | like 1 processor intel core 2 duo? |
| 20:11.29 | Naikrovek | easily handle 100 calls |
| 20:11.35 | Naikrovek | there's a voip-info.org page on this |
| 20:12.13 | [TK]D-Fender | jozza: easily |
| 20:12.14 | Naikrovek | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+dimensioning |
| 20:12.22 | jozza | thx |
| 20:12.48 | jozza | what can i do if a server fails, not to criple the network? |
| 20:13.19 | Skeeter- | on asterisk 1.6.2, to stop asterisk the cmd is stop now?? |
| 20:13.29 | Naikrovek | things get much more complex if you want to do failover or load balancing |
| 20:13.42 | jozza | at least i bet |
| 20:13.48 | jozza | i mean i bet |
| 20:14.08 | jozza | any pages on that? |
| 20:14.10 | Naikrovek | the only problems you're likely to have will be hardware related |
| 20:14.16 | Naikrovek | once it's set up anyway |
| 20:14.16 | jozza | yes |
| 20:14.43 | Naikrovek | personally, i would virtualize that server if i were you, but not everyone would recommend that |
| 20:15.08 | Naikrovek | in my testing virtualizing on a modern platform causes no issues for asterisk |
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| 20:15.31 | jozza | what do you mean by virtualizing? |
| 20:15.48 | voipmonk | openvz, vserver, |
| 20:15.57 | voipmonk | para virtualization |
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| 20:16.07 | jozza | like vmware? |
| 20:16.09 | Naikrovek | that's too big a topic to describe in here. google vmware, hyper-v, xen, |
| 20:16.10 | Naikrovek | yes |
| 20:16.18 | voipmonk | vmware is hypervisor |
| 20:17.05 | sbrath | or Sun VirtualBox |
| 20:17.13 | jozza | dont follow you there |
| 20:17.31 | Naikrovek | worry not about terminology. google will fill you in there. |
| 20:17.42 | Naikrovek | virtualization is a way to divorce the operating system from the hardware it runs on |
| 20:18.00 | voipmonk | ooh "divorce" thats a great word |
| 20:18.00 | Naikrovek | you can move a virtual machine around from one physical machine to another, incase the hardware of one server fails |
| 20:18.10 | voipmonk | i like your definition, can I quote you Naikrovek |
| 20:18.15 | Naikrovek | of course |
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| 20:18.57 | jozza | aha, so to have another ready machine in the storage room in case one fails |
| 20:19.01 | ManxPower-work | And like all divorces there are issues to consider. |
| 20:19.03 | Naikrovek | yes |
| 20:19.17 | Naikrovek | and you wouldn't have to reinstall the system or set anythign up, you just load the virtual disk on the machine and start it |
| 20:19.23 | Naikrovek | i'm generalizing but that's abou tit |
| 20:19.25 | Naikrovek | about it |
| 20:19.43 | jozza | load it how? |
| 20:19.58 | Naikrovek | a virtual machine exists as a few files and a virtual disk (also a file) |
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| 20:20.25 | Naikrovek | you can move those files around to different physical machines (or store it on a SAN/NAS) and boot the virtual machine on any available hardware |
| 20:21.17 | jozza | thast sounds reasonable |
| 20:21.21 | Naikrovek | there is a small "OS" you put on the physical hardware that knows how to launch the virtual machine(s) |
| 20:21.24 | jozza | i have to read more a bout it though |
| 20:21.32 | Naikrovek | it gives them everything they need to think they're running on real hardware |
| 20:21.54 | Naikrovek | so, the operating system boots up and runs normally, not knowing you just took it off old hardware and put it on new |
| 20:22.04 | jozza | what os would that be? |
| 20:22.06 | Naikrovek | if you have the space, this also makes backups and restores easy |
| 20:22.07 | Naikrovek | any |
| 20:22.12 | Naikrovek | any OS can be virtualized |
| 20:22.13 | sbrath | jozza: For a simple way to see it's power, you can download Sun's VirtualBox and you can mount a CD on a windows box, and build a linux box inside the "Box". |
| 20:23.12 | jozza | i mean the host os |
| 20:23.31 | Naikrovek | host os ... can be windows, linux, or nothing (in the case of vmware) |
| 20:24.32 | Naikrovek | vmware runs its own tiny OS as a hypervisor (hypervisor is the small layer that provides the virtualized -- not emulated -- devices to the virtual machines |
| 20:24.42 | voipmonk | great for staging, development, and moving your changes to production |
| 20:25.14 | Naikrovek | windows has hyper-v which is a hypervisor, linux has xen which is a hypervisor and kvm which is paravirtualization i think |
| 20:25.30 | Naikrovek | maybe that's the other way around |
| 20:25.48 | tzafrir | Naikrovek, you forgot lguest |
| 20:25.58 | jozza | so the regular procedure would be? |
| 20:26.09 | Naikrovek | dunno lguest |
| 20:26.37 | Naikrovek | what i do, is i have windows server datacenter running on a bladecenter blade (though hardware is irrelevant in this example) |
| 20:26.55 | Naikrovek | windows runs hyper-v, and i have about 15 virtual machines configured on it |
| 20:27.12 | Naikrovek | so, that one server runs 16 different operating systems, and they all reboot independently of each other |
| 20:27.17 | Naikrovek | they're totally independent |
| 20:27.27 | Naikrovek | some are windows, some are linux, some are freebsd, one is solaris |
| 20:27.31 | jozza | i understand that |
| 20:27.34 | Naikrovek | okay |
| 20:27.47 | jozza | but if the machine was to fail |
| 20:27.50 | Naikrovek | so if i get a new blade, i can move some or all of those to the new blade |
| 20:28.06 | Naikrovek | and it can be set up so that if a blade fails, another can automatically bring the virtual machines back up |
| 20:28.13 | Naikrovek | all without human intervention |
| 20:28.47 | Naikrovek | the files of the virtual machines themselves live on a NAS which is mounted via iSCSI |
| 20:29.00 | Naikrovek | like a hard drive cable over the network |
| 20:29.31 | Naikrovek | since i don't rely on any hardware in the server itself, i can use any server to run the virtual machiens |
| 20:29.40 | Naikrovek | and the disk array the VMs are stored on is raid 10 |
| 20:29.47 | Naikrovek | so i'm disk fault tolerant as well |
| 20:29.49 | Katty | http://www.boston.com/business/ticker/New%20Picture%20%2847%29.jpg <- awesome business slogan, bottom right of photo. |
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| 20:30.03 | Naikrovek | katty:heh |
| 20:30.44 | Katty | well i thought it was cute. |
| 20:31.08 | Naikrovek | i used to go to lush all the time when i lived in australia |
| 20:31.13 | Chainsaw | Katty: It totally is :) |
| 20:31.23 | Katty | Naikrovek: it's a nice place, but i still prefer philosophy |
| 20:31.47 | Katty | Naikrovek: lush carries all these crazy scents. |
| 20:31.53 | Naikrovek | heh |
| 20:31.56 | Naikrovek | i miss lemongrass soap |
| 20:32.01 | Naikrovek | i really liked that for some weird reason |
| 20:32.03 | Katty | order some (= |
| 20:32.10 | jozza | i'll have to get some facts straight before i can think on |
| 20:32.35 | coppice | I thin lemongrass beef tastes better |
| 20:32.35 | jozza | gonna googgle around on this ... |
| 20:32.39 | Naikrovek | research virtualization over the weekend and monday you'll feel like you stepped into a new world of IT |
| 20:32.48 | Naikrovek | oh this is thursday |
| 20:33.00 | Naikrovek | virtualization solves a LOT of problems |
| 20:33.05 | Katty | it also causes some. |
| 20:33.15 | Naikrovek | that is inadmissable hearsay |
| 20:33.17 | Naikrovek | ! |
| 20:33.20 | jozza | i'm well familiar with vmware, but this other type of virtualization i dont know about |
| 20:33.40 | Naikrovek | well vmware workstation or player and hyper-v or vmware esxi are all the same thing really |
| 20:33.45 | Nivex | it is not a panacea. as with all things you give a little to take a little |
| 20:34.01 | Katty | ^- agree. |
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| 20:34.38 | Naikrovek | you lose a very very small amount of performance in virtualization |
| 20:34.43 | Naikrovek | very very very small amount |
| 20:34.56 | Nivex | it used to be a not so small amount, but it's gotten better |
| 20:35.19 | Naikrovek | with cpu virtualization extensions the penalty is virtually non-existant |
| 20:35.22 | Nivex | be mindful of the resources you are sharing (network, I/O) |
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| 20:36.12 | thepopolinux | Hello all! |
| 20:36.57 | Naikrovek | also be mindful of the resource you are wasting when you don't virtualize. how many servers sit with $400 cpus in them, idle 99.9% of the time |
| 20:37.20 | jozza | true |
| 20:37.55 | thepopolinux | I try to recieve fax with asterisk installed on debian lenny, but I've error : Error transmitting fax. result=49: The call dropped prematurely. / transmit: Transmission error |
| 20:38.14 | Naikrovek | we are not fax gurus unfortunately |
| 20:38.16 | chuckf | be mindful also that if you plan a failover setup that each server in the cluster needs to be using less than 45% resources on their own box |
| 20:38.31 | tzafrir | thepopolinux, with what "fax" exactly? |
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| 20:39.31 | thepopolinux | tzafrir: with rxfax(/var/spool/asterisk/fax/test.tiff) |
| 20:39.58 | Naikrovek | jozza: server virtualizations don't work like vmware workstation. they start up automatically after the host starts up. they appear as regular machines over the network, and have all their own IPs and everything |
| 20:40.00 | tzafrir | thepopolinux, what version of spandsp? |
| 20:40.37 | jozza | so does vmware |
| 20:40.44 | Naikrovek | vmware what |
| 20:40.53 | Naikrovek | oh the IP thing |
| 20:40.54 | Naikrovek | yes |
| 20:40.58 | jozza | has all of these properties |
| 20:41.09 | thepopolinux | tzafrir: 0.0.5~pre4 |
| 20:41.12 | Naikrovek | no i mean vmware workstation, vmware player, vmware esxi? |
| 20:41.18 | Naikrovek | which vmware product you talking about |
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| 20:41.40 | jozza | but it is possible to make the vmware workstation start programatically, right? |
| 20:41.48 | Naikrovek | don't know |
| 20:41.53 | Naikrovek | never tried it |
| 20:41.55 | tzafrir | jozza, but why? |
| 20:42.00 | Naikrovek | yeah it's not meant for htat |
| 20:42.04 | Naikrovek | esxi is free |
| 20:42.06 | Naikrovek | as is hyper-v |
| 20:42.11 | Naikrovek | as is xen |
| 20:42.14 | tzafrir | Xen is also free |
| 20:42.20 | tzafrir | Likewise is KVM |
| 20:42.23 | voipmonk | openvz, is free |
| 20:42.24 | Naikrovek | yes |
| 20:42.25 | Naikrovek | yes |
| 20:42.26 | voipmonk | vserver is free, too |
| 20:42.31 | Naikrovek | lots of solutions |
| 20:42.38 | Naikrovek | you don't need to hack around with vmware workstation |
| 20:42.44 | jozza | so anyway. |
| 20:43.09 | bmoraca | all VMWare implementations allow you to bridge your physical network to the virtual machines |
| 20:43.10 | jozza | i would have o have 2 machines with same virtual machine image to make this work |
| 20:43.12 | thepopolinux | tzafrir: spandsp was install from debian lenny deposit / version 0.0.5~pre4 |
| 20:43.18 | jozza | or a nas |
| 20:43.26 | bmoraca | jozza, what are you trying to make work? |
| 20:43.38 | Naikrovek | bmoraca: he wants an asterisk system that is fault tolerant |
| 20:43.46 | Naikrovek | in case of hardware failure |
| 20:44.00 | tzafrir | two servers |
| 20:44.02 | bmoraca | jozza, vSphere. done. |
| 20:44.05 | tzafrir | way simpler |
| 20:44.14 | Naikrovek | yup vsphere (vmware) is gold |
| 20:44.17 | bmoraca | jozza, or you can combine SER with asterisk and dundi |
| 20:44.20 | Naikrovek | by gold i mean awesome |
| 20:45.00 | bmoraca | jozza, the other option is asterisk realtime on two boxes using the same realtime database and a hardware loadbalancer |
| 20:45.05 | tzafrir | I thought you meant "so heavy, no way it floats" |
| 20:45.43 | jozza | you can do that? |
| 20:45.54 | bmoraca | if you set it up right, yes |
| 20:46.27 | thepopolinux | tzafrir: no idea please? |
| 20:46.31 | jozza | what would i need to achieve that? |
| 20:46.37 | tzafrir | jozza, you can also do that quite easily simply with two instances of whatever |
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| 20:47.23 | tzafrir | thepopolinux, "error transmitting fax"? |
| 20:47.34 | tzafrir | you only used rxfax? |
| 20:47.52 | jozza | i know that |
| 20:48.00 | tzafrir | jozza, how many instances do you actually need to run? |
| 20:48.05 | jozza | one |
| 20:48.09 | thepopolinux | tzafrir: yes, do you want a pastbin ? |
| 20:48.11 | jozza | but have failover system |
| 20:48.23 | tzafrir | so just take two servers |
| 20:48.32 | bmoraca | jozza, vmotion might be your best bet...it allows you to run VMs that reside on multiple physical servers, so a single server failure does not bring down the whole cluster |
| 20:48.49 | tzafrir | next: what do you mean by "failover"? if a server dies, do you expect calls not to break? |
| 20:49.01 | Naikrovek | vmotion can keep them going |
| 20:49.05 | bmoraca | or if you don't require automatic stateful failover, you can just have two servers with the same configuration |
| 20:49.15 | Naikrovek | rsync |
| 20:49.18 | voipmonk | drbd |
| 20:49.21 | jozza | if i wanted this to work automatically, it would probably be easy to have sip phones capable to register to a secondary server |
| 20:49.32 | tzafrir | rsync can not sync the state of the UDP packets |
| 20:49.40 | voipmonk | automatically - hehe - then u have a lot of coding and testing to do |
| 20:49.45 | voipmonk | nothing is automatic byd efault |
| 20:49.50 | tzafrir | drbd keeps the disk in sync |
| 20:49.53 | Naikrovek | for only 100 calls, i think the best way would be two hyper-v servers, set to smoothly fail over to each other |
| 20:50.06 | coppice | voipmonk: my last car was |
| 20:50.19 | voipmonk | shoots the drummer |
| 20:50.26 | jozza | how would they do that smothly? |
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| 20:50.35 | tzafrir | And anyway, any "fault tolerance" you add, adds several places your system can fail spertacularily |
| 20:50.36 | voipmonk | gives coppice the evil eye - which turns out more goof then evil |
| 20:50.41 | jozza | do they have a system to informa the othe that one has failed? |
| 20:50.45 | blebleble | is there a command or way to create a feature code to take a line out of 'in use'? |
| 20:50.50 | Naikrovek | jozza: yes |
| 20:50.57 | Naikrovek | jozza: the failover is fully automated |
| 20:50.57 | thepopolinux | tzafrir: http://pastebin.com/d7fa66237 |
| 20:51.05 | tzafrir | So you should try making things as simple as possible |
| 20:51.10 | Naikrovek | ^^^^^ |
| 20:51.14 | tzafrir | eyse coppice as well |
| 20:51.32 | bmoraca | tzafrir, that's why i expect that vsphere is probably the best current solution to high availability |
| 20:51.44 | jozza | yea? |
| 20:51.49 | Naikrovek | vsphere or hyper-v for shizzle |
| 20:52.01 | tzafrir | Naikrovek, fully automated only makes it more complicated to recover from human errors |
| 20:52.12 | Naikrovek | vsphere is more widely used, but costs money. hyper-v is new but is free |
| 20:52.13 | tzafrir | and more fun to watch |
| 20:52.18 | bmoraca | i've never seen hyper-v used in a cluster... |
| 20:52.26 | Naikrovek | i have |
| 20:52.29 | Naikrovek | works great |
| 20:52.32 | _cgc | jozza: can't you use heartbeat for automated failover? |
| 20:52.38 | Naikrovek | my brother in law uses it across 14 blades |
| 20:52.48 | bmoraca | Naikrovek, so you can unplug one of the clustered servers and none of the VMs react? |
| 20:52.52 | jozza | dont know what that is |
| 20:53.03 | blebleble | _cgc: yes |
| 20:53.14 | Naikrovek | bmoraca: the vms that were on that server close but are immediately booted on other servers. maybe 1 minute down. |
| 20:53.24 | p3nguin | katty: Do you happen to have a homemade split-top bread recipe? I mostly just need the instructions for when/how to split the top. |
| 20:53.28 | Naikrovek | if he knows he's going to take a server out he moves them live ahead of time |
| 20:53.28 | bmoraca | Naikrovek, with vsphere, they stay up |
| 20:53.36 | tzafrir | 1 minute is a lot of down time |
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| 20:53.38 | Naikrovek | bmoraca: not on a power failure they don't |
| 20:53.53 | tzafrir | a while ago you promised me calls wouldn't break |
| 20:54.10 | Naikrovek | bmoraca: if you pull the plug on a server running vsphere the vms on that server stop, and get started on other nodes in the cluster |
| 20:54.23 | Katty | p3nguin: no, i don't....don't usually make bread... |
| 20:54.23 | _cgc | blebleble: would it be difficult to setup for asterisk though? |
| 20:55.40 | Corydon76-dig | p3nguin: sharp knife, just before you pop the loaf into the oven |
| 20:55.52 | Katty | oh |
| 20:55.55 | Katty | you mean decoration? |
| 20:56.00 | p3nguin | http://www.cooks.com/rec/doc/0,164,147190-242194,00.html seems to think so, too. |
| 20:56.14 | Katty | i have a youtube video on that sec |
| 20:57.17 | Katty | p3nguin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZdgN_7N7wQ <- two parts. |
| 20:58.57 | bmoraca | Naikrovek, that's not entirely true with the latest version. there is a method of vSphere HA that runs multiple copies of the VM on each host server synced together. |
| 20:59.07 | Naikrovek | ah |
| 20:59.11 | bmoraca | that's 0 downtime in the event one of them fails |
| 20:59.12 | Naikrovek | well hyper-v doesn't do that |
| 20:59.17 | bmoraca | and WAY cool, imo :P |
| 20:59.21 | Naikrovek | no kidding |
| 20:59.25 | Naikrovek | that's awesome |
| 20:59.50 | bmoraca | yes, it doubles the machine time required to run the app...but if downtime costs money, it's worth it |
| 21:00.55 | Naikrovek | yeah |
| 21:01.11 | Naikrovek | i won't be paying for that option anytime soon but i can see where it would be valuable |
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| 21:01.27 | bmoraca | actually, vSphere is relatively inexpensive |
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| 21:01.38 | Naikrovek | one of my former employers could really use an asterisk system, wonder if they'll ever deploy one |
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| 21:01.51 | Naikrovek | bmoraca: it's not as bad as it once was, the prices |
| 21:02.01 | Naikrovek | anyone here work for next wave logistics |
| 21:03.13 | bmoraca | Naikrovek, vSphere Essentials Plus (with the HA option) starts at $3600 for 3 host computers |
| 21:03.40 | Naikrovek | that's not so bad |
| 21:04.04 | bmoraca | that's not bad at all if it guarantees you nearly 100% uptime. |
| 21:05.01 | Naikrovek | if you desperately need 100% uptime, sure. my web server was down the other day for a couple of hours before anyone noticed. one of my foreign coworkers thought he'd tinker with the firewall. |
| 21:05.15 | bmoraca | lol |
| 21:05.33 | Naikrovek | yeah |
| 21:05.46 | bmoraca | well, of course, it doesn't protect you when the idiots at your colo blow up a UPS, either...and then let air into the fuel line of the diesel backup generator |
| 21:05.55 | Naikrovek | ack |
| 21:06.12 | bmoraca | yeah...that was a fun couple days |
| 21:06.17 | Naikrovek | how would they get air into the fuel line |
| 21:06.22 | Naikrovek | sharpnel from ups? |
| 21:06.43 | bmoraca | they let it get too low before they refueled it and while they were refueling it, air got into the line and it shut off |
| 21:06.50 | Naikrovek | oh geez |
| 21:07.00 | Naikrovek | i'm going to get a natural gas generator i think |
| 21:07.04 | bmoraca | since the UPS was down, all of my servers took a little nap |
| 21:07.06 | Naikrovek | no refuelling necessary |
| 21:07.09 | Naikrovek | yeah |
| 21:07.12 | ManxPower-work | I always thought propane is best |
| 21:08.02 | Naikrovek | the generator i ahve in mind can be configured for propane or natural gas, either configuration can run either, but they run better when they're optimized for the proper fuel type |
| 21:08.24 | ecrane | worked at a company where we paid an electrician company somewhere around ~1 mill per year in various maintenance contracts, new installs, etc. They were screwing around in one of our colos and managed to kill power to all equipment, bypassing the power company/generator/ups feeds. If you really want 100% uptime yeah.. try multiple locations... |
| 21:09.23 | bmoraca | yeah, then you get to have problems in TWO places! |
| 21:09.40 | ecrane | heh |
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| 21:20.16 | Katty | there is a new bird in the yard. |
| 21:20.33 | Katty | to the best of my ability through google, it is a black throated blue warbler. |
| 21:20.42 | thepopolinux | tzafrir: you don't have idea for me please? I'm very embarased by this problem |
| 21:21.07 | ChannelZ | Katty: So it sounds like Jimmy Stewart? |
| 21:21.58 | tzafrir | thepopolinux, I would personally use newer version of spandsp, |
| 21:22.19 | tzafrir | e.g. a trivial backport from Squeeze |
| 21:22.48 | thepopolinux | tzafrir: squeeze have a different version ? |
| 21:23.04 | blebleble | is there a command or way to take a channel/extension out of an 'in use' state? |
| 21:23.21 | tzafrir | and replace rxfax with the one from https://agx-ast-addons.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/agx-ast-addons/trunk/app-spandsp/ |
| 21:23.36 | Katty | ChannelZ: i think that went over my head. |
| 21:24.20 | tzafrir | thepopolinux, hmm... not yet: http://packages.debian.org/libspandsp-dev |
| 21:24.30 | tzafrir | not sure what's blocking it |
| 21:24.55 | tzafrir | anyway, http://updates.xorcom.com/pkg-voip/ |
| 21:25.19 | ChannelZ | I think he sounds warbly |
| 21:25.50 | thepopolinux | ok, app-spandsp is an alternative of rxfax? |
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| 21:28.32 | thepopolinux | tzafrir |
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| 21:28.49 | tzafrir | thepopolinux, yes. A wrapper around rxfax |
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| 21:29.19 | diegoviola | hi |
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| 21:29.38 | [TK]D-Fender | checkout time, later all |
| 21:29.44 | thepopolinux | tzafrir: ok, super. You use asterisk to recieve fax? I think is very instable and no usable in prod, isn't it? |
| 21:30.17 | tzafrir | Others do find it stable and usable |
| 21:31.28 | thepopolinux | tzafrir: I hope ;) If we purpose services for our clients, I hope it work... comportement is very strange between versions... |
| 21:31.38 | adomah | Does anyone have a link on how to program a Mitel MXE 3300 to route to an Asterisk box via PRI (the second PRI port on the switch)? |
| 21:36.06 | Katty | WARNING: lighthouse feeder reaching critically low levels. |
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| 22:50.51 | cuco | tzafrir: ping |
| 22:51.02 | tzafrir | cuco, pong |
| 22:52.12 | gavimobile | has anyone heard of the software for window ivm? and how can you compare it to asterisks. what can't this program do that asterisk cannot do. were talking on basic functions here... transfering calls, voice mail, mailboxesetc. |
| 22:52.26 | gavimobile | the manufacture of the software is nch |
| 22:55.00 | gavimobile | http://www.nch.com.au/ivm/ |
| 22:55.16 | [TK]D-Fender | gavimobile: Go read the feature lists yourself |
| 22:55.33 | delrocas | What defenses are there against Denial Of Service attacks on the PSTN side of an asterisk machine? Like jamming the incoming landlines using a bunch of dialers. If the question is OT, where should I ask? |
| 22:56.46 | [TK]D-Fender | delrocas: What do YOU think? |
| 22:57.48 | delrocas | I'm a newbie. The thought just popped into my mind. |
| 22:57.59 | [TK]D-Fender | delrocas: Call comes in... is * psychic? |
| 22:58.52 | [TK]D-Fender | delrocas: Otherwise it knows what it knows about any other call... |
| 23:00.52 | gavimobile | [TK]D-Fender: im looking at it, but my knowledge of asterisk is low. I am at deciding weather I should invest in a software like this to make life easier, or to study asterisk and building an asterisk server on my own. but that leaves me with another question, this software works with a voice modem as well. can asterisk do something like this with out buying fancy hardwarre? |
| 23:01.28 | gavimobile | I have a spare pc and a voice modem |
| 23:01.41 | gavimobile | and 1 pots |
| 23:01.49 | [TK]D-Fender | gavimobile: maybe you should read their feature list for yourself and see what hardware is really supported by it and in what capacity |
| 23:02.16 | [TK]D-Fender | gavimobile: Typical voice modems can't be used in full duplex as a 2-way calling medium |
| 23:02.39 | [TK]D-Fender | gavimobile: And noone here would have any reason to know or use that software. |
| 23:03.12 | thepopolinux | tzafrir: I will test this. thanks for all ! |
| 23:03.50 | gavimobile | [TK]D-Fender: Call transfer (subject to your phone company or PBX features) ?? |
| 23:04.39 | gavimobile | I think call transfers are the most important thing.. but on 1 line even if its to an extension |
| 23:05.01 | [TK]D-Fender | gavimobile: That statement is vague and worthless |
| 23:05.32 | gavimobile | most important for my situation |
| 23:05.47 | gavimobile | maybe you are not understanding my question |
| 23:05.55 | manxpower | ~ask |
| 23:05.56 | infobot | Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will. |
| 23:06.16 | [TK]D-Fender | [18:03]<gavimobile>[TK]D-Fender: Call transfer (subject to your phone company or PBX features) ?? <- this isn't a question. Learn how to communicate |
| 23:07.13 | [TK]D-Fender | gavimobile: You seem to have some sort of question about this STATEMENT that they made on their site, but you didn't not actually ASK a specific question about it |
| 23:07.28 | [TK]D-Fender | gavimobile: And noone here should have any reason to look at their solution. |
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| 23:13.21 | gavimobile | question 1. can asterisk transfer phone calls using 1 line with pots? |
| 23:14.17 | [TK]D-Fender | gavimobile: depends on the device you're using as an interface, and your telco even offering the service |
| 23:15.07 | gavimobile | [TK]D-Fender: would you have any idea if this is a common service offered by phone companies?my phone company doesn't give many options |
| 23:15.31 | [TK]D-Fender | gavimobile: Not very common. Go call them |
| 23:15.59 | gavimobile | [TK]D-Fender: what do you mean by the interface in which I will use? |
| 23:16.17 | jblack | grins |
| 23:16.32 | [TK]D-Fender | gavimobile: What do you think "interface" means? |
| 23:16.38 | gavimobile | software? |
| 23:16.43 | [TK]D-Fender | HARDWARE |
| 23:16.52 | gavimobile | I hoped you wouldn't say that |
| 23:16.54 | ManxPower-work | gavimobile: The feature is called "Conference, Drop, and Transfer". In some areas the service is only available on business lines. You would have to do some dialplan and features.conf hackery, but that's do-able. |
| 23:17.01 | [TK]D-Fender | gavimobile: Plesae find a clue.. they're in a bin to the left of the door |
| 23:17.08 | ManxPower-work | Yes, it is available on analog lines. |
| 23:17.18 | [TK]D-Fender | "depending" |
| 23:17.45 | TheDavidFactor-H | ~clue |
| 23:17.46 | infobot | methinks clue is a very useful thing indeed. |
| 23:19.09 | gavimobile | when you say that's do-able do you mean that its possible but probably not very convient? I spoke with my phone company and the only service they offer is that I can press # and some number and the call will be forwarded to me. this isn't very helpful.. |
| 23:19.51 | [TK]D-Fender | gavimobile: Go verify what that service is |
| 23:20.19 | [TK]D-Fender | gavimobile: If its an undonditional forward then that clearly isn't it |
| 23:21.08 | gavimobile | [TK]D-Fender: its called follow me! if I want my office calls to come in on my cell phone, I press # and like 72 and then the number I want it forwarded to. than if I press something like #73 or something than it goes back to stop transfers |
| 23:21.15 | ManxPower-work | gavimobile: What phone company? |
| 23:21.18 | gavimobile | no I don't think this is of what you are speaking about |
| 23:21.27 | gavimobile | ManxPower its called HOT. its in israel |
| 23:21.34 | gavimobile | plaestine |
| 23:21.37 | gavimobile | whatever you want to call it |
| 23:21.48 | ManxPower-work | I only know what USA phone companies call the feature. |
| 23:22.00 | gavimobile | bullsh*t |
| 23:22.02 | gavimobile | hahaha |
| 23:22.16 | ManxPower-work | If you want to use one line then you WILL have to have a phone company feature that does that. |
| 23:22.20 | [TK]D-Fender | gavimobile: That is correct. We call that feature "bullshit" |
| 23:22.27 | ManxPower-work | If you can use more than one line then everything becomes simple. |
| 23:22.43 | [TK]D-Fender | gavimobile: So far that is not what you seem to be looking for. |
| 23:23.19 | gavimobile | [TK]D-Fender: so without looking at this website I sent you, would you say that this program most probably can handle what I want it to handle, but it won't work unless my phone provider offeres me these fancy services which are definetly not available. |
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| 23:24.35 | [TK]D-Fender | gavimobile: No magic software is going to give your phoneline an ability it does not possess |
| 23:24.40 | ManxPower-work | gavimobile: Website doesn't matter. The issue is a simple one. If you want advanced features using only one line, then you must have those fancy features provided by your phone company. |
| 23:24.56 | ManxPower-work | If you want to use more than 1 line then that statement does not apply. |
| 23:26.08 | gavimobile | ManxPower-work: or fancy hardware? |
| 23:26.27 | ManxPower-work | there is no hardware that will let you transfer calls using one 1 line. |
| 23:26.49 | ManxPower-work | You can keep asking questions. The answer will not change. |
| 23:26.54 | gavimobile | got you |
| 23:27.49 | gavimobile | but if I use 2 lines its pointless, because one line will basicly be the menu and it will just be transfering it all the time... can extensions be used using only 1 line |
| 23:27.53 | ManxPower-work | What you should do is reconsider your requirements. |
| 23:27.58 | gavimobile | with or without fancy hardware |
| 23:28.31 | ManxPower-work | Maybe you can have the call come in on the PSTN line and go out via a SIP ITSP. That would tie up your single line for the duration of the call. No call waiting won't work. |
| 23:28.41 | gavimobile | I know my requrements but I want suggestions to find the most cost friendly solution |
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| 23:29.21 | ManxPower-work | You could get an ISDN BRI service which is almost always available with conference, drop, transfer, but you might have to have business rather than residential service. |
| 23:29.36 | [TK]D-Fender | gavimobile: Your telco doesn't offer that service. Get something else. The End |
| 23:30.09 | gavimobile | a different telephone service? |
| 23:30.18 | [TK]D-Fender | gavimobile: DUH |
| 23:30.35 | ManxPower-work | I simply use SIP for everything at home. I don't have to have 100% reliability. My internet service is reliable enough to have reasonably reliable SIP service. |
| 23:31.04 | gavimobile | ManxPower-work: that's what im worried about... sip is voip basicly right |
| 23:31.07 | ManxPower-work | For a long time I had a single POTS line and everything else was SIP. |
| 23:31.11 | gavimobile | or calls over the itnernet |
| 23:32.04 | gavimobile | my phone company uses coaxil or fiberoptic, it's the same plug as the tv with the pin in it |
| 23:32.41 | ManxPower-work | That sounds like an E-1 |
| 23:32.41 | gavimobile | the modem has an ethernet port which is never in use, but quality is as if im using pots |
| 23:33.07 | gavimobile | does e-1 have flexability |
| 23:33.07 | ManxPower-work | ah, sounds like a CATV ATA. |
| 23:33.15 | tzafrir | itnernet is internet with out-of-order packets |
| 23:33.26 | gavimobile | I think im gona have to call my provider again... maybe I spoke with an iddiot there |
| 23:33.29 | ManxPower-work | gavimobile: E-1 is multiple hundreds of dollars / euros / whatever per month, |
| 23:33.46 | [TK]D-Fender | gavimobile: Soul-mates, clearly :) |
| 23:33.50 | gavimobile | so I guess the catv-ata |
| 23:33.56 | ManxPower-work | gavimobile: You need to go read up on this stuff. |
| 23:34.19 | gavimobile | there website isn't in english :-( |
| 23:34.34 | ManxPower-work | gavimobile: no, read up on the technology |
| 23:34.35 | tzafrir | gavimobile, how many concurrent calls do you need? |
| 23:34.51 | gavimobile | tzafrir just 1 extra |
| 23:35.05 | tzafrir | what do you mean by "extra"? |
| 23:35.11 | gavimobile | if user doest want to leave a message that the phone will allow me to answer |
| 23:35.44 | gavimobile | I would prefer clients leavnig a msg.. if they don't want to than transfer me the call without calling myself |
| 23:35.47 | tzafrir | BRI isn't too expensive. |
| 23:35.50 | gavimobile | cause that sounds silly |
| 23:36.19 | gavimobile | is that voip/ |
| 23:36.21 | gavimobile | ? |
| 23:36.24 | [TK]D-Fender | NO |
| 23:36.27 | [TK]D-Fender | ~101 |
| 23:36.28 | infobot | rumour has it, 101 is Telephony 101, which is a good read if you're unfamiliar with traditional TDM telephony. You can download it at http://www.stromcarlson.com/docs/basics/NTtelephony101.pdf |
| 23:36.35 | tzafrir | And naturally you can always use a voip service |
| 23:36.52 | tzafrir | BRI is "ISDN" |
| 23:36.58 | tzafrir | ~wiki BRI |
| 23:37.02 | gavimobile | [TK]D-Fender: good post im gona check that out now.. |
| 23:37.05 | [TK]D-Fender | Hrm |
| 23:37.10 | gavimobile | tzafrir: ok ill read that 2 |
| 23:37.11 | gavimobile | brb |
| 23:37.19 | jblack | gavimobile: Let's make life simpler for you. |
| 23:37.24 | gavimobile | in google im not sure what im looking for |
| 23:37.34 | [TK]D-Fender | gavimobile: Go read... THE BOOK.... |
| 23:37.37 | [TK]D-Fender | ~book |
| 23:37.38 | infobot | [~book] Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF at http://www.asteriskdocs.org --- HTML at http://astbook.asteriskdocs.org or see ~buybook |
| 23:37.43 | jblack | go get a dsl line that you can dedicate for phone, and get a voip provider. |
| 23:37.55 | [TK]D-Fender | gavimobile: It explains many basic telephony standards |
| 23:38.15 | gavimobile | is this the tfot? |
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| 23:41.55 | [TK]D-Fender | gavimobile: You'd think its hidden... in the big print |
| 23:43.17 | gavimobile | I started reading the tfot, but I stoped along the way :-( |
| 23:51.17 | Tech_Travis | Is there a way to restrict which users can access ChanSpy; such as only managers can listen in on employees but prevent employees from listening in on managers? |
| 23:53.29 | jaytee | Tech_Travis, yeah but you need to understand contexts in your dialplan |
| 23:55.04 | Tech_Travis | jaytee So I'd need to use contexts to group which users could access that extension or feature, depending on how I setup ChanSpy? |
| 23:56.07 | ChannelZ | I'd say it depends on how restrictive you want to be (or how 'secure' really).. |
| 23:56.37 | jaytee | Tech_Travis, yeah, setup the ChanSpy "extension" in it's own context, create another context that has includes for that context and any other contexts that person needs and make that the context for that user's account in sip.conf |
| 23:56.38 | ChannelZ | It can be as easy as doing "444/123" in your dialplan for ChanSpy so that only extension 123 could dial the spy extension |
| 23:57.32 | ChannelZ | If you want a 'password' you can write a little extra fun in the dialplan to request that first before allowing the spy |
| 23:58.04 | Tech_Travis | ChannelZ OOH, the password would be perfect. |
| 23:58.46 | outtolunc | hmm you might think authenticate would be useful <G> |
| 23:59.01 | ChannelZ | indeed |
| 23:59.26 | outtolunc | i only priv'd that to him like 5 minutes ago |
