| 00:00.12 | [TK]D-Fender | johnyjj2: You are. |
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| 00:00.29 | [TK]D-Fender | johnyjj2: AsteriskWin has its own CLI monitoring window. |
| 00:00.46 | [TK]D-Fender | johnyjj2: this has nothing to do with whatever GUI manager crap it also came bundled with |
| 00:01.48 | [TK]D-Fender | johnyjj2: and it still gets configured via flat files just the same |
| 00:02.16 | TSM | if you have to install it in windows, just put it in a VM with linux, saves you trouble |
| 00:02.43 | TSM | they will hateyou for asterisk in windows, you loose so much performance with cgwin |
| 00:03.17 | [TK]D-Fender | TSM: Not his server.... |
| 00:03.21 | johnyjj2 | I already noticed that in many cases CLIs are able to configure things in much better way than any GUIs. How to run this own CLI monitoring window of AsteriskWin? And yes I hate WIndows too. |
| 00:03.29 | [TK]D-Fender | wlcome to TFB Land |
| 00:03.45 | [TK]D-Fender | johnyjj2: I already answered this |
| 00:03.48 | TSM | TK: his balles on the line though |
| 00:03.58 | [TK]D-Fender | [18:58]<[TK]D-Fender>johnyjj2: Well this 3rd party tool seems to want to connect via AMI. Go set up your manager.conf |
| 00:04.06 | Joel | TSM, probably as much as they would hate you for the performance hit of it inside of a vm |
| 00:04.39 | [TK]D-Fender | Joel: Well there is the thought of "hate for not being on a supported platform" |
| 00:04.49 | TSM | Joel: this is true to, but it will save the the issues with him comming here saying that somthing does not work |
| 00:04.50 | [TK]D-Fender | Joel: Path of most resistance and all |
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| 00:05.45 | Joel | tsm it's easier to just ignore someone doing something wildly insane |
| 00:05.57 | TSM | Joel: last i tried asterisk via VMWare Workstation i got ticking in some calls, that was for testing though, not live |
| 00:06.28 | Joel | tsm did you load ztdummy? |
| 00:06.43 | Joel | you shouldn't have too many issues until the host starts grinding away at something |
| 00:06.47 | Joel | then it can get nasty in a hurry |
| 00:06.48 | TSM | johnyjj2: whats the budget on this? is it not cheeper/easier to just convince them to get another computer |
| 00:07.20 | TSM | joel: now you say that i did not specificly load ztdummy, does it not autoload if no card has been found by dahdi, i thought it did |
| 00:08.12 | Joel | tsm I don't honestly know what it's behavior should be, but I'm betting it wasn't loaded |
| 00:09.00 | TSM | could be, anyway that was some time back and guessed it was just because of VMware, i then moved testing onto seperate hardware |
| 00:09.13 | johnyjj2 | TSM: budget is low because it is minor project for the company, rather something like way of testing if i'm capable of doing any IT projects in the company :p, but personally i think the whole idea of the project is not so well |
| 00:09.45 | TSM | just get any spare computer in the office, its better than doing what you are trying |
| 00:09.54 | Joel | then explain to them why the project isn't such a good idea |
| 00:10.26 | TSM | what i somtimes do is get a desktop computer and tell them that at the end of our testing it then becomes a "new" computer for someone |
| 00:10.50 | TSM | then you have a proof of concept and convince them to do it properly |
| 00:11.06 | TSM | if they then say no, the computer becomes a proper desktop |
| 00:11.50 | TSM | our whole office runs off a HP dc7900sff and its not even taxed, i have several spares in our department though |
| 00:11.59 | TSM | its small and cheep and reliable |
| 00:15.27 | johnyjj2 | TSM: hm first thing i'm not member of the company, i just had intern (or how to call it, i'm not native in english sorry) in that company during vacation, then they asked me if i'd like to create little project for them, in fact my first IT project, i spent some time on it, the whole idea is bad but i didn't care because it was interesting, i explained the whole idea in those printscreens from the link which i gave at the beginning, partially to make |
| 00:16.24 | bcrisp | -- the End |
| 00:16.27 | TSM | i know your fustrations, i had the same thing about 8/9yrs ago in one company i was as |
| 00:17.26 | johnyjj2 | TSM: yeah the most irritating is that i spent so much time on convincing them to let me to configure lamp (linux apache mysql php) for their applications but after all i lost much time for stupid configurations on windows xp (not even windows server lol) |
| 00:18.03 | bcrisp | thats called being a cheapass |
| 00:18.07 | bcrisp | :) |
| 00:18.20 | bcrisp | or lazybutt? not sure |
| 00:18.24 | TSM | cheapass ... xp vs linux.... ummm ok |
| 00:18.24 | johnyjj2 | TSM: on the other hand admin wanted both IIS and other redundant application for the same tasks, crazy thing for me to have to web server applications on one system |
| 00:18.25 | TSM | :p |
| 00:18.44 | johnyjj2 | **two not to |
| 00:18.45 | bcrisp | well TSM, yes.. wording is tricky there |
| 00:19.54 | johnyjj2 | ok, nevermind, in general i've got sphinx4 for speech recognition and i wanted to create ivr with asterisk + cairo/zanzibar |
| 00:20.19 | TSM | johnyjj2: i had to have IIS and Apache at the same time on one machine, i found that at the time IIS did not work well and fast with PHP so IIS did all the ASP stuff and apache did the PHP stuff, annoying, i stopped using IIS several years back, does not exist in the company im at now, no windows servers |
| 00:20.49 | johnyjj2 | it was even something else than apache, i don't remember its name now |
| 00:21.05 | johnyjj2 | so first of all i need to have asterisk working properly, i want to check it with x-lite (or rather twinkle if i would use linux) |
| 00:21.21 | bcrisp | or whistlephoen if you use iphone |
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| 00:21.40 | johnyjj2 | when everything will be working, i will buy pstn number from sip provider, for testing it can be this twinkle for example |
| 00:23.18 | TSM | good luck |
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| 00:51.22 | bcrisp | grrRR |
| 00:52.50 | x86 | johnyjj2: you can get a free PSTN number from sipgate.com, ipkall.com, sipgate.co.uk, google.com/voice, and all kinds of other places |
| 00:52.59 | bcrisp | i want to set callerID on calls outbound from * |
| 00:53.05 | x86 | sipgate.com is pretty sweet so far |
| 00:53.10 | bcrisp | callcentric is a pain, any suggestions? |
| 00:53.21 | x86 | bcrisp: more details? |
| 00:53.23 | bcrisp | outbound sip provider |
| 00:53.30 | ChannelZ | teliax? |
| 00:53.36 | x86 | do they trust DNID? |
| 00:53.51 | x86 | do they do ANI pass-through? |
| 00:53.55 | bcrisp | im not sure... i was thinking maybe im doing something incorrect from within * |
| 00:54.00 | x86 | some providers don't support it (actually most) |
| 00:54.37 | bcrisp | for instance, incoming call to IVR menu, extension triggers outbound Dial through sip provider - using o flag to relay callerid info of the caller |
| 00:55.11 | x86 | if it's uber cheap pricing per minute, likely they don't support it... because circuit-switched circuits (PRI, for example) is generally much cheaper than dedicated circuits (CAS, for example) |
| 00:55.21 | x86 | you need circuit-switched for caller ID |
| 00:55.38 | x86 | bcrisp: ok.. simple DISA... |
| 00:55.50 | x86 | bcrisp: using the same provider for both inbound and outbound? |
| 00:55.57 | bcrisp | negative |
| 00:56.10 | x86 | not that it matters, just purely curious |
| 00:56.27 | x86 | are you receiving caller ID from your inbound provider? |
| 00:56.39 | bcrisp | ya |
| 00:57.34 | bcrisp | im pretty sure callcentric is requiring ownership proof for any # i want to show |
| 00:57.42 | x86 | likely |
| 00:57.52 | x86 | teliax is great, also try les.net |
| 00:58.03 | bcrisp | ya, teliax is on my list |
| 00:58.13 | ChannelZ | I'm chatting with a friend who uses Teliax |
| 00:58.20 | x86 | les.net is cheaper of the two |
| 00:58.29 | bcrisp | do they support what im trying to do? |
| 00:58.35 | bcrisp | kind of like call pass through |
| 00:58.51 | ChannelZ | I'm asking |
| 00:59.06 | x86 | DISA |
| 00:59.06 | x86 | sure |
| 00:59.13 | x86 | Direct Inward System Dial |
| 00:59.14 | ChannelZ | He does say yes you can control it but not sure if it's through the website or directly from * yes - and they do some sort of verification |
| 00:59.30 | x86 | Teliax doesn't verify |
| 00:59.35 | bcrisp | hrm |
| 00:59.35 | x86 | at least they didn't last I used them |
| 00:59.47 | x86 | of course, LES.net is much cheaper anyway |
| 01:00.02 | ChannelZ | Says he: "I config it as part of the SIP payload, but I suspect these days they may reject my outbound call initiation if I set it to something other than what they know me as. They cracked down on CID spoofing last year." |
| 01:00.24 | x86 | yeah, go with LES.net then |
| 01:00.30 | x86 | it's half the cost anyway |
| 01:00.31 | bcrisp | interesting |
| 01:00.41 | bcrisp | LES.net ok, im making a note |
| 01:00.44 | x86 | less even if you sign up as a VSP |
| 01:01.41 | bcrisp | thank you guys |
| 01:01.52 | bcrisp | i think its time for me to see avatar |
| 01:02.59 | ChannelZ | blue monkeys! |
| 01:03.13 | bcrisp | was it good? |
| 01:03.27 | bcrisp | im mixed about whether an all CGI movie can be good |
| 01:03.32 | ChannelZ | Yeah I enjoyed it |
| 01:03.47 | ChannelZ | It's not all CG and it's pretty well done regardless |
| 01:05.20 | bcrisp | ok its time to go see it then, 3D good or will it give me a headache? |
| 01:05.59 | ChannelZ | well if you're going to pay $10 you might as well pay $13 for 3D |
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| 01:06.29 | bcrisp | interesting, les.net has a 30 dollar fee for DID port ins and a 75 dollar fee for cancelling a port-in request |
| 01:06.30 | ChannelZ | I saw 3D but not IMAX. It's OK, but I'm not totally sold on 3D personaly. It's interesting but still kind of a gimmick |
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| 01:06.50 | file | bcrisp: tends to give me a headache |
| 01:07.01 | file | but I have yet to see Avatar in 3D, probably will on Thursday |
| 01:07.19 | bcrisp | i have to convince my wife that it is actually a love story... |
| 01:07.27 | bcrisp | otherwise she wont go |
| 01:07.33 | ChannelZ | I didn't have eye problems (except dry contacts) but the problem with it is that unless you are sitting up close and your field of vision is pretty well full, it actually makes the movie feel smaller |
| 01:07.33 | bcrisp | (she hates sci fi) |
| 01:07.40 | file | will she go if you get her drunk enough? o.o |
| 01:07.58 | Chainsaw | bcrisp: From a reliable source: "It's basically Dances with Wolves in space" |
| 01:08.03 | ChannelZ | because you're looking at 3D, but it's sort of contained in this box of the screen, and you see the frames of the glasses and feel like you're looking through a port hole |
| 01:08.05 | bcrisp | i think if i shower enough complements she will go |
| 01:08.19 | Chainsaw | bcrisp: So as long as you stay close to that, you should be alright. |
| 01:08.33 | bcrisp | can i go so far as to say Titanic in space? |
| 01:08.48 | file | Titanic in space... now that is a good idea |
| 01:08.51 | ChannelZ | I wouldn't even say 'in space' because you only see space for like 1 minute |
| 01:08.56 | Chainsaw | bcrisp: I haven't seen it myself yet, so I can't sign off on it. |
| 01:08.56 | ChannelZ | it's just another planet |
| 01:09.00 | Chainsaw | file: Doctor Who already did that. |
| 01:09.00 | bcrisp | Titanic in wonderland |
| 01:09.08 | Chainsaw | file: It had Kylie Minoque and everything. |
| 01:09.11 | file | Chainsaw: that wasn't a movie though |
| 01:09.18 | file | that was a special. |
| 01:09.30 | bcrisp | she wont watch sci movies ever since Event Horizon |
| 01:09.31 | file | speaking of which part 2 of The End of Time airs this week! |
| 01:09.31 | Chainsaw | file: Sure. But it's been done. |
| 01:09.43 | ChannelZ | thats cuz event horizon was stupid |
| 01:09.43 | [TK]D-Fender | [20:08]<Chainsaw>bcrisp: From a reliable source: "It's basically Dances with Wolves in space" <- no... actually its "Pocahontas In Space" |
| 01:09.55 | Nivex | Dancing with Smurfs! |
| 01:09.58 | bcrisp | lol |
| 01:10.13 | Nivex | *Dances |
| 01:10.24 | [TK]D-Fender | Its got Ripley & Aliens... what could go wrong? ;) |
| 01:10.26 | ChannelZ | except smurfs with thairoid problems because they're like 8 feet tall |
| 01:10.46 | Pan3D | O_o |
| 01:10.53 | bcrisp | ok im gonna give it a shot, have a good one guys |
| 01:10.57 | Chainsaw | [TK]D-Fender: I tried, she wouldn't choose between the two. But she did say "2/10 plot, 10/10 CG" |
| 01:11.00 | bcrisp | thanks for the suggestions |
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| 01:23.22 | ariel_ | anyone have any sample mac.cfg for the polycom IP331 phones. I am missing the extension label on my phones |
| 01:26.00 | [TK]D-Fender | ariel_: isn't in the mac config |
| 01:26.12 | [TK]D-Fender | ariel_: stock firmware phone1.cfg has it |
| 01:26.36 | ariel_ | yes but for some reason it's not displaying the extension on the screen |
| 01:28.08 | [TK]D-Fender | ariel_: then you're doing it wrong... |
| 01:29.04 | ariel_ | yes your right that is why I am looking for a sample.cfg so I can set it correctly |
| 01:29.25 | ariel_ | the one that assigns the extension numbers and display name |
| 01:32.49 | ariel_ | it's different then the one for the polycom ip501 that I have |
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| 01:39.12 | [TK]D-Fender | ariel_: nope, tags are all the same for this. |
| 01:41.25 | ariel_ | http://pastebin.ca/1731357 |
| 01:41.45 | ariel_ | that is the settings I have and there just the same as what I have for the IP501 |
| 01:42.09 | ariel_ | I am able to register get calls and make calls vm works just does not display the name |
| 01:42.16 | etfonhomey | ariel_, reg.1.label is what shows up on the phone isn't it? |
| 01:43.32 | ariel_ | I was under the impression it is |
| 01:43.48 | ariel_ | but that is not showing up or the little normal phone icon |
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| 02:12.45 | hardwire | how do I see iax2 trunk information in 1.6.2? |
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| 02:13.14 | Katty | hi |
| 02:20.53 | Katty | hi? |
| 02:21.18 | hardwire | yo |
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| 02:21.27 | Katty | :> |
| 02:21.30 | Katty | hi jaytee |
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| 02:24.18 | Katty | eppigy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tM0sTNtWDiI <- |
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| 02:29.11 | jaytee | hi Katty |
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| 02:31.12 | jaytee | Katty, have you checked out dirpy.com ? |
| 02:31.28 | Katty | to make mp3s out of youtube videos? |
| 02:31.33 | jaytee | yeah |
| 02:31.39 | Katty | yep |
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| 02:36.19 | x86 | can someone try sending a SIP call to x86@shellshark.net ? |
| 02:36.39 | x86 | will need SRV lookups enabled for it to work, want to test it |
| 02:39.14 | eppigy | Katty: lol |
| 02:39.17 | eppigy | :> |
| 02:41.15 | TJNII | bookmarks dirpy.com |
| 02:43.52 | x86 | nobody willing to give me a test call? |
| 02:45.11 | Katty | i'm at home. |
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| 02:46.01 | x86 | no sip client? |
| 02:46.05 | Katty | no |
| 02:46.11 | x86 | err... weak :) |
| 02:50.44 | snadge | that is pretty weak yeah |
| 02:51.21 | Katty | it's not weak. |
| 02:51.23 | Katty | i want it that way |
| 02:51.28 | Katty | work != home |
| 02:57.13 | ManxPower | I work from home. The 15ft commute every day is great. |
| 02:59.10 | TJNII | I miss working from home. Only having to buy gas every two months was great. |
| 03:01.27 | snadge | i have sip at home and at work.. im a sip fiend |
| 03:01.45 | snadge | i need a better client other than twinkle though.. its super gay |
| 03:10.36 | etfonhomey | Is GigE the only difference between the Polycom 550 and 560? |
| 03:11.49 | ManxPower | I'm getting " -- PROGRESS with cause code 31 received" instead of a hangup w/cause code. Does anyone have any ideas on how to make it not to the progress. This only happens with some telephone numbers. There is no answer of the far end. |
| 03:12.39 | ManxPower | (PRI obviously) |
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| 03:18.17 | beers218 | if i wanted to set up asterisk 1.6 to handle faxes coming in over DID's, do i have to have some sort of NVfaxdetect application installed? |
| 03:21.57 | mykhyggz | beers218: I think no. Look here: http://www.digium.com/en/products/software/faxforasterisk.php |
| 03:23.25 | beers218 | damn i was hoping there would be some sort of built in fax receiving script or something using spandsp |
| 03:24.01 | beers218 | i dont need fax signal recognition, i just want the destination of ext xxxx to pick up and start receiving the fax |
| 03:25.12 | jaytee | i just want my hair to grow back |
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| 03:25.34 | mykhyggz | beers218: Hmm. That should work. Why not try FFA? |
| 03:25.48 | beers218 | FFA? |
| 03:26.21 | mykhyggz | IIRC you just have a 'fax' -- "fax for asterisk" -- extension and it does fax stuff... |
| 03:27.12 | beers218 | thats what im trying to implement, but unfortunatly i havent had it work yet. i should note that i am also using freepbx to set up all my other stuff, only trying to limit what it does with fax |
| 03:27.21 | ManxPower | ~freepbx |
| 03:27.22 | infobot | [~freepbx] FreePBX is unable to be supported here. It is made up of complex dialplans and scripts which can't be easily supported by people who aren't deeply involved. Try joining #freepbx and asking there, or fpbx |
| 03:27.43 | ManxPower | beers218: 1.6 comes with a fax application |
| 03:27.53 | ManxPower | assuming you compile it with spandsp installed |
| 03:29.02 | beers218 | yes, show applications shows "receiveFAX" as a listed application. |
| 03:29.22 | beers218 | im going to have to dig into my dialplans to make it work methinks, since i am using freepbx |
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| 03:41.16 | rlinger | greeetings all |
| 03:42.07 | ChannelZ | WHAARRRF! |
| 03:42.19 | ChannelZ | A drive in my raid has croaked. |
| 03:42.44 | rlinger | i am having issues with inbound calls using SIPGATE.com Asterisk says "[Dec 29 21:28:33] NOTICE[187] chan_sip.c: Call from '3240489e1' to extension 's' rejected because extension not found. |
| 03:42.51 | rlinger | N E Ideas? :) |
| 03:43.09 | rlinger | sorry to hear that ChannelZ |
| 03:44.19 | TJNII | ChannelZ: Not raid 0, I hope? |
| 03:45.31 | ChannelZ | raid 5 luckily |
| 03:45.39 | ChannelZ | Yucka. This is an interesting noise. |
| 03:47.45 | rlinger | how do I know what "Contact Extension" to set for inbound SIP Trunks? |
| 03:48.00 | rlinger | All the docs I read say to use "s" for default, but that fails consistently :( |
| 03:48.40 | rlinger | http://www.sipgate.com/faq/article/394/How_do_I_configure_Asterisk |
| 03:48.51 | ChannelZ | it depends what the request comes in as |
| 03:49.13 | ChannelZ | most voip providers will dial an 'extension' that of your phone number |
| 03:49.45 | ChannelZ | but they tell you right there: |
| 03:49.47 | ChannelZ | exten => SIP-ID |
| 03:49.56 | ChannelZ | sounds like it's whatever your ID is |
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| 03:57.22 | ChannelZ | WhhhaaAAA? Seagate sent me a replacement drive that isn't SATA 2? |
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| 04:03.01 | epaphus | Hello, Iam running an asterisk box with some commercial interface that i dont know very well.. but it uses G729. How could i know via terminal if I could use any other codec? |
| 04:03.19 | epaphus | list the supported codecs in asterisk |
| 04:03.44 | rlinger | thank you ChannelZ, I tried my ID to no avail. I sent them an email. We will see I get a response in 48 hours :) |
| 04:04.26 | TJNII | rlinger: You mean in your register statement? |
| 04:04.28 | ChannelZ | epaphus: module show like codec |
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| 04:04.54 | ChannelZ | rlinger: your console should so the reqest being made, it should be pretty easy to figure out... |
| 04:05.26 | rlinger | what should I look for? |
| 04:05.33 | rlinger | I can share my messages |
| 04:05.48 | ChannelZ | rlinger: turn up the verbosity a little and call in.. note what is said |
| 04:06.21 | rlinger | brb |
| 04:06.39 | epaphus | ChannelZ, is that in the CLI? |
| 04:06.45 | ChannelZ | yes |
| 04:07.05 | ChannelZ | gsm, ulaw, alaw are all pretty much standard unless you specifically unloaded them |
| 04:07.10 | ChannelZ | as well as a few others |
| 04:07.14 | epaphus | iam a newbie, all i need is this info. how do i invoke the cli? |
| 04:07.37 | ChannelZ | asterisk -r |
| 04:07.40 | epaphus | thanks |
| 04:08.03 | epaphus | could anybody recommend me a good G729 alternative? |
| 04:10.14 | ChannelZ | gsm is ok for low bandwidth, no license needed |
| 04:10.42 | rlinger | I should just be looking in /var/asterisk/messages correct, after I turn up more logging? |
| 04:10.50 | ChannelZ | but your devices have to support it. You really need to start on that end and figure out which to use |
| 04:11.07 | ChannelZ | rlinger: or in the console since your logging might not be setup |
| 04:11.21 | rlinger | ahh |
| 04:11.23 | ChannelZ | just do 'asterisk -rvvv' and then watch |
| 04:11.53 | rlinger | Connected to Asterisk 1.4.21.2 currently running on IP0x (pid = 131) |
| 04:11.53 | rlinger | Verbosity was 0 and is now 3 |
| 04:11.53 | rlinger | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:12.10 | rlinger | since i am ssh'd onto the box |
| 04:12.16 | rlinger | do i need to redirect console somehow? |
| 04:12.17 | ChannelZ | now call in through your sipgate whatever |
| 04:12.23 | ChannelZ | but don't go pasting everything here |
| 04:12.29 | rlinger | lol |
| 04:12.37 | ChannelZ | ~pastebin |
| 04:12.38 | infobot | [~pastebin] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste |
| 04:13.54 | ChannelZ | actually I just scrolled back and you already sort of discovered the problem |
| 04:14.36 | ChannelZ | "Call from '3240489e1' to extension 's' rejected because extension not found." Chances are it's going to the wrong context, if you are saying you do have an 's' extension set to handle these calls |
| 04:14.57 | rlinger | i guess i am asking where do i look? |
| 04:15.13 | rlinger | the docs say to make an s on the inbound dialing plan if i read them right |
| 04:15.16 | ChannelZ | well the console should tell you where it's *trying* to go |
| 04:15.26 | ChannelZ | but what context that is depends on your sip.conf |
| 04:16.47 | rlinger | context=default |
| 04:16.52 | rlinger | in my sip.conf |
| 04:17.26 | ChannelZ | you should really pastebin your sip.conf (just XXX out the secret) and extensions.conf |
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| 04:21.06 | epaphus | ChannelZ, do you know why so many people prefer G729.. whats so special about it compared to gsm? |
| 04:21.19 | epaphus | or why would everybody not prefer a low bandwith codec like gsm'? |
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| 04:23.47 | rlinger | http://pastebin.com/d18270c8e for my 2 files, you may need users.conf as well |
| 04:24.02 | ChannelZ | I guess G729 sounds better for the bandwidth but I don't use it so I have no first hand experience there |
| 04:25.32 | rlinger | http://pastebin.com/d1d58b569 for my user.conf file |
| 04:25.45 | rlinger | i really appreciate your help ChannelZ! |
| 04:25.58 | Katty | yawns |
| 04:26.00 | rlinger | what kind of drive do you have going bad in your raid 5? SATA or SAS? |
| 04:26.30 | Katty | i do believe, it might could be, possibly time for a nap. |
| 04:26.37 | ChannelZ | SATA |
| 04:27.26 | ChannelZ | rlinger: see line 56 and 57 of your users.conf paste -- those calls are NOT going into the 'default' context |
| 04:28.10 | ChannelZ | they're going into "DID_3240489e0". Which there is some craziness happening there.. |
| 04:28.54 | ChannelZ | actually I don't see that context in your extensions, there's a similar one ending in e1 but similar is not good enough |
| 04:29.12 | ChannelZ | This is why I hate Asterisk GUIs, this is a crazy mess |
| 04:29.21 | coppice | epaphus: the biggest thing driving the use of G.729 is its the only low bandwidth codec pretty much every IP phone and ATA supports |
| 04:29.46 | rlinger | ahh, the one ending in 0 was the original trunkid assigned by SIPGate, but that went away when I deleted the "phone" on sipgate and re-added it as part of testing. |
| 04:30.06 | rlinger | let me see if i can manually clear that |
| 04:30.22 | rlinger | yeah, i think the gui has caused more trouble than saved me time... |
| 04:30.46 | ChannelZ | well, I'm not sure what you're intending to happen, but either way the context you're sending those calls to doesn't exist. Whether you're intending them to go to that e1 one (which looks like it just calls extension 6001 whatever that is) or for it to go into 'default', or none of the above, I'll leave that for you to decide |
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| 04:31.50 | epaphus | coppice, cool.... |
| 04:32.20 | ChannelZ | and actually as I keep looking at it, at first glance extension 6001 in the default context doesn't seem to go anywhere either |
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| 04:32.52 | epaphus | coppice, how much bandwith does g729 use in comparison to gsm? And why would anybody prefer a high bandwith consumption codec over a low one? |
| 04:33.36 | rlinger | thank you for the fix, i manually fixed the file and changed the 0 to a 1 and that works. |
| 04:33.50 | rlinger | now i have to go to the gui and see if was a bug, or if i need to change it somewhere. |
| 04:34.10 | rlinger | callerid is not coming in, but i will work on that after i find the context bug |
| 04:35.00 | coppice | epaphus: GSM is 13.2kbps. G.729 is 8kbps. That makes G.729 sound a lot lower, but when you add the massive overheads of RTP there isn't a huge difference. people generally prefer the sound quality of higher bit rate codecs |
| 04:35.47 | epaphus | in theory, GSM should be crystal clear.. right? |
| 04:35.52 | ChannelZ | wanders off to watch James May's Toy Stories while his drive rebuilds |
| 04:36.03 | rlinger | thanks again ChannelZ |
| 04:36.55 | coppice | ephasus: it depends. For a clear single voice G,729 will generally sound a little better than GSM. If there is background noise G.729 quality degrades rapidly. GSM less so. |
| 04:37.23 | epaphus | this is for a call center :D |
| 04:37.34 | epaphus | 15 streams |
| 04:37.39 | epaphus | same time |
| 04:37.40 | epaphus | :) |
| 04:38.26 | epaphus | but thanks. |
| 04:39.13 | epaphus | One more question.. in asterisk for it to be used with ekiga via the GSM... is it absolutely necessary to tell asterisk an ekiga client will be used..? or does it suffice for both asterisk and ekiga to be configured with GSM? |
| 04:39.55 | sbrath | I'm looking for a good VoIP phone for ~100$... what would people recomend... I want it to have the ability to have shared call aperancess too. |
| 04:40.09 | sbrath | And 3-6 SIP lines. |
| 04:40.20 | TJNII | You tell * what codecs it can use, and * and Ekiga decide on on that will work from the choices. |
| 04:40.48 | TJNII | If you don't allow any codecs Ekiga knows, an error occurs and the call fails. |
| 04:46.06 | epaphus | right, but my question is.. as far as asterisk goes.. i dont need to configure anything specific so that it accepts ekiga as client. |
| 04:46.07 | epaphus | right? |
| 04:46.49 | TJNII | Right |
| 04:47.23 | TJNII | You don't have to set anything specific to ekiga or anything that identifies the client as ekiga. |
| 04:47.45 | jblack | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:52.16 | rlinger | follow-up question. My Asterisk box is getting CallerID from SIP provider but not pushing it to my analog phone. Any ideas? |
| 04:54.54 | TJNII | It is really interesting to see the evolution of facebook based attacks as facebook has become so popular. |
| 04:55.08 | TJNII | rlinger: Check the ATA. |
| 04:55.37 | jblack | rlinger: either asterisk or the ata is eating it. |
| 04:56.01 | jblack | Asterisk will preserve the callerid as a call passes through.... unless you change it |
| 05:00.21 | rlinger | is there an ata file? |
| 05:00.44 | TJNII | No. Analog Telephone Adapter. Whatever box you have the phone plugged into. |
| 05:01.14 | TJNII | Or the Dahdi settings, if you went that route. |
| 05:01.38 | rlinger | the asterisk box i purchased has a 1 inch electronic board, called a FXS card |
| 05:01.52 | rlinger | it has 1 setting called kewl start? |
| 05:01.54 | TJNII | So Dahdi, then. |
| 05:01.58 | rlinger | ahh |
| 05:02.50 | rlinger | i found a dundi file but not a dahdi file |
| 05:02.52 | rlinger | hmm |
| 05:03.11 | TJNII | Can you describe "Asterisk Box" a little more verbosely? |
| 05:04.09 | rlinger | lol, http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/IP01 thank you! |
| 05:06.11 | rlinger | here is my files list http://pastebin.com/d718aadde |
| 05:06.16 | Nugget | "Could you describe the ruckus, sir?" |
| 05:06.42 | rlinger | what file should i look for to see if I can fix the callerid passing issue? |
| 05:08.07 | TJNII | Huh... If you bought a pre-made * box I would expect the settings to be correct... |
| 05:08.18 | TJNII | What version of * is on that thing? |
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| 05:13.26 | rlinger | Version Details: |
| 05:13.26 | rlinger | Asterisk/1.4.21.2 |
| 05:13.26 | rlinger | VoIPtel GUI version: 2.0.2-ce |
| 05:13.26 | rlinger | Firmware version: voiptel_ce_ip01-0.3.4 |
| 05:13.41 | rlinger | 1.4.21.2 is what I am reading |
| 05:15.12 | ChannelZ | its running zaptel, not dahdi |
| 05:16.31 | rlinger | possible fix - http://blackfin.uclinux.org/gf/project/asterisk/forum/?_forum_action=MessageReply&message_id=74662&action=ForumBrowse |
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| 05:45.23 | rlinger | im done for the night, thanks again all! |
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| 06:55.19 | benngard | nice, ooh323 supports overlapped dialing :) |
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| 07:18.37 | sun28 | moin |
| 07:23.01 | ChannelZ | farts |
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| 08:01.46 | ChannelZ | hmm |
| 08:01.49 | ChannelZ | scratches his head |
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| 08:09.46 | ChannelZ | can I/should I add a note to a 'closed' bug in the database? what happens? |
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| 08:11.38 | Tech_Travis | ChannelZ: I don't know what would happen but if you have relevant info about the bug, why not? |
| 08:19.33 | ChannelZ | well, I'm not sure what's relevant anymore :) |
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| 08:37.16 | ChannelZ | I'll sleep on it |
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| 09:02.23 | benngard | why in %&%/& cant our avaya send "AST_RTP_DTMF" with std value 101, ofc they will send it as 127 :( |
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| 09:03.39 | benngard | easy to fix 1 way in main/rtp_engine.c just to add [127] = {0, AST_RTP_DTMF}, but I dont have a clue how to fix it the other way :( |
| 09:04.22 | benngard | besides i think it is better to do it in the ooh323 driver, am i right? |
| 09:09.21 | vader-- | what temperature do you guys run your servers at? |
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| 09:12.50 | creativx | 24 |
| 09:12.52 | creativx | centigrade |
| 09:13.04 | benngard | 21 centigrade here |
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| 09:16.56 | rags | Hello, I am using a Dlink ATA to register with asterisk as a SIP peer. The problem is the SIP registration drops randomly and the phone refuses to register until I reboot the device |
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| 09:17.54 | rags | Sip debug shows, under normal conditions for a sip register, asterisk sends a 401 Unauthorised and then the sip phone sends the authentication and it gets registered. |
| 09:18.54 | rags | The phone is set to re-register after every 3 mintues and it works this way...but when the registration fails, I've notices after the 401 Unauthorised message the sip phone doesn't send the creds |
| 09:19.15 | rags | the server keeps on sending 401 Unauthorizd messages |
| 09:20.44 | rags | could it be a device problem? |
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| 09:29.04 | aiksa[LV] | vader--: temprature of what? CPU? external t? |
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| 10:13.13 | Akiraa | Are there such things as IP Phones that can share the internet connection of a computer without the need for a router or an extra PC NIC? |
| 10:13.56 | coppice | there are many IP phones with a small ethernet switch inside to do that |
| 10:14.37 | coppice | oh, maybe I didn't read your question properly |
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| 10:16.19 | coppice | There are plenty of ATAs which act as routers/NAT boxes/genuine IP sharers. There are plenty of phones which have a small ethernet switch inside, so you don't need extra ethernet ports. What you don't usually see is an IP phone that can act as a router and share an internet connection |
| 10:16.56 | guyvdb_ | Hi, I have had asterisk running for 15 days without a problem. 2 days ago it stopped answering incoming calls. I have 4 PSTN lines in a hunt group. It seems to answer one of them but not the other 3. Where do I start? |
| 10:30.03 | tzafrir_laptop | guyvdb_, what type of lines? analog? DAHDI? |
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| 10:32.44 | mbrevda | coppice: grandstreams can :) |
| 10:33.46 | guyvdb_ | tzafrir_laptop: it is a TDM800 card with DAHDI |
| 10:34.02 | Akiraa | mbrevda: all grandstream IP phones can act as mini-routers? |
| 10:34.21 | mbrevda | Akiraa: the ones that ive seen can |
| 10:34.46 | mbrevda | the second port can be either switched or routed |
| 10:34.48 | tzafrir_laptop | guyvdb_, start with 'dahdi show channels' |
| 10:34.55 | Akiraa | mbrevda: Budget tone? |
| 10:35.05 | mbrevda | thoes arent ip phones |
| 10:35.08 | tzafrir_laptop | any chance Asterisk did not hang up the lines? |
| 10:36.01 | mbrevda | Akiraa: I hope your not seriously concidering using grandstreams though |
| 10:36.19 | Akiraa | mbrevda: why not? |
| 10:36.31 | guyvdb_ | tzafrir_laptop /etc/init.d/dahdi status shows the channels ok . so does dahdi show channels. I have rebooted the server. Same issue. |
| 10:36.47 | Akiraa | looking at the cheapest possible IP terminals for distribuited offices |
| 10:37.42 | mbrevda | Akiraa: inexpencive and cheap are two different things. Which yould you like? |
| 10:37.48 | guyvdb_ | tzafrir_laptop I have checked the incoming PSTNs with an analog phone and they are ringing correctly |
| 10:39.41 | Akiraa | mbrevda: What are some typical issues with IP phones (quality-wise)? |
| 10:39.52 | mort_gib | Akiraa: Making a serious mistake |
| 10:39.57 | mort_gib | coppice: snom 370 |
| 10:40.35 | mort_gib | Akiraa: Unstable, lack of basic functions |
| 10:40.45 | mbrevda | Akiraa: there is no quality with gs. If you want it as your first test phone - maybe. I dont know anyone though that has then in a production environment and doesnt regret it |
| 10:40.52 | mort_gib | Looking for trouble look for cheap stuff |
| 10:41.12 | mbrevda | also, if you only need a switch and not a router, there are a lot of simmilarly prices alternatives |
| 10:41.24 | Akiraa | mbrevda, mort_gib: currently making tests with a few of these handsets: http://www.novavox.co.uk/products/telephones/ph802.html |
| 10:42.13 | Akiraa | first lesson learned: terse documentation and poor support |
| 10:42.20 | mort_gib | Yes, but you are some Eur 10-15 away from a Polycom 320 |
| 10:42.25 | mbrevda | never used them - but I wouldnt even want to try |
| 10:42.34 | mbrevda | exactly |
| 10:42.58 | mort_gib | Test them if you must, but DO also test the Polycoms |
| 10:43.17 | mbrevda | concider the polycom's the lexus/merc-benx/rols ryoce/hummer/maybach/whatever-your-into of ip phones |
| 10:43.58 | mort_gib | Even the Snoms are nice |
| 10:44.12 | mort_gib | Easy to get off the ground |
| 10:44.25 | mbrevda | as are aastra |
| 10:44.39 | mort_gib | mbrevda: You like the Aastras?? |
| 10:45.39 | mbrevda | mort_gib: depends |
| 10:46.08 | mbrevda | i like the polycom's buld and feel better - but you cant get more flexable and programable then aastra |
| 10:46.45 | mort_gib | Try the Snoms |
| 10:47.15 | mort_gib | I even configured a Snom 370 with openVPN for a sattelite office |
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| 10:49.26 | krion | hi |
| 10:49.45 | krion | i've an asterisk 1.2 running with g729 codec |
| 10:49.45 | _cgc | hi everyone |
| 10:50.00 | krion | i'd like to convert wav file to g729 file |
| 10:50.22 | _cgc | <ManxPower-work> are you there? |
| 10:50.25 | krion | since 1.2 doesn't seem to have "file convert" ability like 1.4 does, how can i convert wav to g729 ? |
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| 10:53.28 | _cgc | <krion> http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Convert+WAV+audio+files+for+use+in+Asterisk |
| 10:53.32 | _cgc | hope that helps |
| 10:53.49 | krion | i switch from all my sip phone from g711 to g729 and i loose all my vocal messages |
| 10:54.21 | krion | _cgc: yes :) i already read that webpage :) |
| 10:54.43 | krion | that's too bad i don't have a asterisk 1.4 with g729 codec running |
| 10:54.57 | Akiraaa | mbrevda, coppice: ooh, these things do have routers: http://www.novavox.co.uk/products/telephones/ph802.html -- just got them working in that mode |
| 10:55.00 | krion | asterisk 1.2 doesn't seem to have "file convert" |
| 10:55.23 | mbrevda | Akiraa: so? |
| 10:56.37 | coppice | once one of them gets a feature like that, many others will. most phone makers use the silicon vendor's reference code with little modification |
| 11:02.48 | benngard | i am looking for some 802.11 handsets, what do u recommend? |
| 11:04.00 | _cgc | krion: how about this tool? http://voiptoday.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=238:wav2g729-freeware-to-convert-between-wav-and-g729&catid=46:codec&Itemid=101 |
| 11:04.18 | coppice | bennard: I'd recomment using DECT ones instead |
| 11:04.40 | benngard | u do that? ok, i was afraid of that |
| 11:05.10 | benngard | i saw that snom had a nice base that u could attach 8 handset to, but just 3 concurrent call |
| 11:05.20 | coppice | _cgc: its a simple enough tool, if you ignore the patent issues :-) |
| 11:05.41 | _cgc | lol ok |
| 11:06.56 | benngard | i have some rfp32 (h323) but it doesnt seem possible to convert them to sip |
| 11:09.53 | _cgc | does anyone in here have any experience with liz and asterisk? |
| 11:10.55 | _cgc | liz is a plugin to sugarcrm with agi scripts for asterisk by the way :) |
| 11:12.21 | [TK]D-Fender | krion: http://www.digium.com/en/products/ivr/audio-converter.php |
| 11:13.21 | _cgc | [TK]D-Fender> we were talking yesterday about my problem with calling queues that used Local/ |
| 11:14.18 | _cgc | [TK]D-Fender> I changed it to /n on the end and this still did not fix it, all the queue members show up as 'Invalid' still, any idea's? |
| 11:15.30 | krion | [TK]D-Fender: thanks a lot |
| 11:20.11 | guyvdb_ | tzafrir_laptop: figured it out... sort of. The TDM800 has two quad FXO's on it. When I switched the incoming lines to the other set of FXO's it works. Can only thing the one Quad FXO's got damaged. |
| 11:25.00 | benngard | dtmfcodec=127 in ooh323.conf did solve my problem i had with dtmf, was not aware of that parameter :( |
| 11:30.45 | Akiraaa | Is anyone using, or tempted to use a windows-based PBX like this one: http://www.3cx.com/ ? |
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| 11:38.15 | creativx | Akiraa: does it work? |
| 11:38.36 | Akiraa | creativx: install failed :p so no |
| 11:39.08 | creativx | hehe |
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| 12:34.58 | _cgc | how whould everyone rate freepbx? |
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| 12:42.33 | tzafrir_laptop | _cgc, per hour? |
| 12:43.15 | _cgc | tzafrir_laptop: what do u mean? |
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| 12:46.30 | danj1980 | Hello. |
| 12:46.40 | _cgc | http://pastebin.ca/1731708 <--- the problem I'm having when an incoming call tries to dial a queue |
| 12:47.12 | _cgc | http://pastebin.ca/1731706 <--- some of my config |
| 12:47.42 | _cgc | any help please, i've tried everything I can think of |
| 12:48.19 | danj1980 | On polycom phones, is it possible to provide an internal dialtone, and an external dialtone when the user presses "9"? Currently, the dialtone stops when the user presses 9 |
| 12:52.00 | sun28 | get trouble w/ * and HuaweiX3000 |
| 12:52.20 | sun28 | silencesupress=yes don't work for me |
| 12:52.45 | sun28 | * v 1.6.0.9 && 1.4.24.1 |
| 12:52.51 | sun28 | ah |
| 12:53.01 | sun28 | * v 1.6.0.9/24 && 1.4.24.1/24 ^___^ |
| 12:55.17 | m0e | danj1980, I'm a noob here.. but I think what you are talking about is "ignorepat" |
| 13:01.09 | _cgc | no1 has any idea's? |
| 13:02.52 | m0e | _cgc, come backa bit later.. usually everyone in this chan is pretty much dead @ this hour |
| 13:03.14 | _cgc | ok, how much later? |
| 13:03.20 | m0e | *shrugs* |
| 13:03.30 | _cgc | lol ok |
| 13:03.36 | sun28 | *shrugs* |
| 13:03.37 | m0e | just idle in here, you will know when everyone is in :) |
| 13:03.49 | _cgc | ok cool, thanks |
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| 13:27.54 | danj1980 | m0e: ignorepat does not work for sip |
| 13:28.13 | danj1980 | but thanks. |
| 13:28.20 | m0e | oh your going through a sip trunk? |
| 13:30.07 | m0e | danj1980, I might be wrong.. but cant you make it, so that when a user dials 9, to Play() a tone and wait for the number to get dialed? |
| 13:30.47 | m0e | or rather.. use the Background() |
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| 13:35.04 | voipmonk | Good morning. |
| 13:35.07 | voipmonk | all |
| 13:35.31 | _cgc | good morning... in the afternoon for me :/ |
| 13:37.31 | sun28 | _cgc: http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 13:38.25 | _cgc | ok my bad |
| 13:40.32 | sun28 | *shrugs* |
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| 13:52.27 | danj1980 | m0e: not thought of that. i'll take a look. |
| 14:04.02 | SuPrSluG | danj1980: use a comma after the 9 in your phones dialplan |
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| 14:14.33 | Katty | morning |
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| 14:19.34 | beek | Hello Katty ! |
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| 14:20.55 | Polysics | hello |
| 14:21.03 | Polysics | are video calls in * feasible in 1.6.x? |
| 14:21.17 | Polysics | my boss just came up with the "need" to have video calls... |
| 14:22.15 | Katty | hugs beek |
| 14:22.52 | beek | Katty: Do you have any ferretcam recorded? |
| 14:23.01 | Katty | yes |
| 14:23.04 | beek | URL? |
| 14:23.08 | bkruse | Polysics: Skyp |
| 14:23.10 | bkruse | Skype :P |
| 14:23.40 | Polysics | bkruse, if i could use Skype i would |
| 14:23.59 | Polysics | they "need" (note the quotes) video calls inside a softphone |
| 14:24.03 | Katty | http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/3446408 |
| 14:24.19 | bkruse | inside a softphone? Why not use ekiga and just call phone2phone |
| 14:24.29 | beek | looks... |
| 14:25.14 | Polysics | let me explain: this app is a closed system, where people connect and call each other, and calls are paid per second |
| 14:25.21 | Polysics | we basically provide translation services |
| 14:25.40 | Polysics | so some users are "customers" and some other are "translators" |
| 14:25.55 | beek | Katty: they're cute. What is the white one's name? |
| 14:26.03 | jaytee | morning beek |
| 14:26.07 | jaytee | morning Katty |
| 14:26.16 | m0e | I thought this was available since 1.4? doing a video call through a sofphone? |
| 14:26.30 | m0e | *could be wrong* |
| 14:27.06 | benngard | X-lite? |
| 14:27.28 | Katty | beek: the white one is Merry |
| 14:27.41 | Katty | hugs jaytee g'morning |
| 14:27.42 | m0e | yeah.. I think i used that before when i was using asterisknow (so i was on 1.4) |
| 14:28.38 | benngard | x-lite and correct codec setting should do the trick, or am i wrong |
| 14:29.30 | beek | Morning jaytee |
| 14:30.17 | beek | Katty: It looks like they'd be fun to watch play. |
| 14:30.29 | Katty | more fun to play with (= |
| 14:31.06 | benngard | it could be fun (for a few seconds) to let my BIG cat into the same room ;) |
| 14:31.19 | Katty | benngard: heh |
| 14:31.27 | Katty | benngard: i have a 90lb german shepherd who play swith them. |
| 14:31.33 | Katty | benngard: that big enough for you? |
| 14:31.46 | benngard | thats big enough |
| 14:32.13 | Akiraa | Do you recommend using PC (PCI/PCIexpress) ATA gateways or standalone devices? max 5 PSTN ports |
| 14:34.50 | Katty | personally, i recommend breakfast. |
| 14:35.04 | ManxPower-work | aiksa[LV]: for connecting phones or for connecting phone lines? |
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| 14:35.25 | ManxPower-work | wrong nick |
| 14:35.35 | ManxPower-work | Akiraa: for connecting phones or for connecting phone lines? |
| 14:35.38 | Akiraa | ManxPower-work: just PSTN terminations |
| 14:36.00 | ManxPower-work | Akiraa: I recommend a Sangoma analog card for that. |
| 14:36.23 | Akiraa | ManxPower-work: thanks |
| 14:36.24 | Katty | i can attest to those. |
| 14:36.31 | Katty | they do work nicely, and help the echo issues. |
| 14:36.34 | ManxPower-work | Just remember "analog sucks" |
| 14:36.44 | Katty | also remember echo cancelation! |
| 14:36.50 | ManxPower-work | Yes. |
| 14:36.56 | aiksa[LV] | ManxPower-work: at your service :) |
| 14:37.12 | Akiraa | Can't you do echo cancelation and other DSP on the PBX end? |
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| 14:37.34 | ManxPower-work | Akiraa: Asterisk's software based EC only seems to work under optimum conditions. |
| 14:38.12 | ManxPower-work | Akiraa: Doing EC is computationally intensive so you want a hardware based EC if you can. Heck Digium doesn't even seem to sell cards without hardware EC anymore. |
| 14:38.27 | mort_gib | Akiraa: And even so it introduces a delay in receiving the call, ok not much, but.. |
| 14:39.30 | aiksa[LV] | ManxPower-work: although there had been times where i have had to put oslec on top of HW EC |
| 14:39.57 | ManxPower-work | aiksa[LV]: I bet you were using a Digium card. |
| 14:40.03 | aiksa[LV] | nope |
| 14:40.11 | ManxPower-work | No? Sangoma then? |
| 14:40.18 | aiksa[LV] | redfone unit |
| 14:40.55 | aiksa[LV] | the problem i suspect was less with the unit rather than PSTN service provider |
| 14:41.04 | ManxPower-work | I've never used their stuff. |
| 14:41.07 | coppice | All the cards using Octasic EC seem to have problems. OSLEC is often a cure, although its compute requirements drag a machine down for a lot of circuits |
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| 14:41.20 | Akiraa | Also, what's your configuration for receiving fax in an IP network? (if indeed it's worthwhile) |
| 14:41.32 | ManxPower-work | coppice: Any echo problem I had with a Digium card was solved by using Sangoma. |
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| 14:42.08 | ManxPower-work | Akiraa: I work for a CLEC/VoIP company. Faxes are always put on dedicated analog PSTN lines direct to the telco. |
| 14:42.11 | coppice | Sangoma has similar problems. you were lucky if they didn't bite you |
| 14:42.14 | aiksa[LV] | I dont know what they did to their infrustructure but I had a travel time of voice in one direction in that scenario > 500 ms. And |
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| 14:42.31 | aiksa[LV] | i suspect that their EC simply wasnt meant to handle that length of a tail |
| 14:42.39 | ManxPower-work | coppice: I suspect the differences are in the drivers rather than the hardware. |
| 14:43.19 | ManxPower-work | aiksa[LV]: you can't usually EC anything over about a 128ms tail, many only support a 32ms or 64ms tail. Remember EC is designed for PSTN latency which is always very low. |
| 14:43.27 | coppice | I've no idea if octasic has problems, or if everyone gets the implementation wrong |
| 14:43.57 | aiksa[LV] | ManxPower-work: I know that. |
| 14:44.01 | ManxPower-work | coppice: Digium Tech Support's solution to EC problems seems to be "upgrade to DAHDI". The problem is that always makes echo WORSE for us, not better. |
| 14:44.33 | aiksa[LV] | however my PSTN service provider has other opinon. They think that EC is something which magically happens on the side of the customer |
| 14:44.56 | Corydon76-dig | ec or echo? |
| 14:45.14 | ManxPower-work | aiksa[LV]: It is. Local PSTN doesn't have high enough latency for echo to be a problem so most carriers don't EC on those types of calls. |
| 14:45.16 | aiksa[LV] | which is magically done |
| 14:45.26 | coppice | the biggest problem with EC on Digium and Sangoma cards is many people find DTMF passing through is corrupted. Therefore things like IVR calls passing through the box fail |
| 14:45.56 | aiksa[LV] | ManxPower-work: they have E1 connection to us through at least 5 units of their TDM over IP HW |
| 14:46.08 | mort_gib | coppice: That's new to me, I use a lot of Sangoma cards and just about the ONLY issue I have never had is DFTM |
| 14:46.18 | mort_gib | DTMF that is! |
| 14:46.24 | aiksa[LV] | in order not to introduce too much of a packet flow in their network, they do some kind of buffering |
| 14:46.56 | aiksa[LV] | and with X devices in a row, the latency can grow to a nasty size |
| 14:47.08 | aiksa[LV] | thats my suspicion. |
| 14:47.14 | ManxPower-work | then your telco must do their own EC at the PSTN/VoIP conversion point |
| 14:47.19 | aiksa[LV] | have no method of proving that though |
| 14:47.30 | ManxPower-work | same thing applies to cellphone calls. |
| 14:47.33 | Corydon76-dig | coppice: while I understand how that theoretically could be a problem, I've never heard of such a situation |
| 14:47.40 | aiksa[LV] | ManxPower-work: they dont do PSTN/VoIP conversion |
| 14:47.55 | ManxPower-work | aiksa[LV]: If they are having 500ms latency then they must be. |
| 14:47.55 | coppice | Corydon76-dig: you need to get out more :-) |
| 14:48.12 | aiksa[LV] | ok. perhaps somewhere in their internbal network |
| 14:48.24 | aiksa[LV] | well beyond my reach of examination |
| 14:48.39 | mort_gib | aiksa[LV] Remember that a lot of telcos are using VOIP in some form |
| 14:48.43 | ManxPower-work | We do various kinds of handoff to customers (analog, PRI, etc), but most calls still go over our IP network. |
| 14:48.47 | aiksa[LV] | they have TDM over IP though going in multiple directions |
| 14:48.53 | benngard | i have noticed at our wan, as soon as any dsite get more than 200 ms they start to complain |
| 14:48.53 | Corydon76-dig | coppice: Maybe all things are backwards on the underside of the world. :-P |
| 14:49.23 | ManxPower-work | I thought HK was north of the equator. |
| 14:49.29 | coppice | Corydon76-dig: huh? :-\ |
| 14:50.21 | aiksa[LV] | ManxPower-work: starnge thing though - as long as i had my redfone placed at their premises and did my own TDMoE on a dedicated network connection between us. The tail was 2-3 times smaller and Redfones EC did a perfect job |
| 14:50.24 | Corydon76-dig | Or is that backside? |
| 14:50.38 | coppice | some heavy users of Digium cards tell me the only one where EC just works without hassle is the ISDN card, which uses a different EC design |
| 14:55.44 | danj1980 | Is there any way to change the call parking behavour, so that when the parking time has been reached, it goes back to a custom extension context? |
| 14:55.46 | aiksa[LV] | now they changed that layout, so that instead of me doing TDMoE over that network with redfone and ztdynamic, they have a bunch of their own TDMoIP devices |
| 14:56.34 | aiksa[LV] | and redfone is in a meter distance from the atcual asterisk box now. |
| 14:56.41 | ManxPower-work | danj1980: there was nothing in features.conf.sample that was obvious? |
| 14:57.12 | ManxPower-work | danj1980: and nothing obvious in "core show application park"? |
| 14:57.41 | danj1980 | ManxPower-work: Not that I can see. Someone on asterisk-users mailing list pasted something from extensions_custom, but I dont have that file in my samples directory. |
| 14:57.57 | aiksa[LV] | ManxPower-work: the problem is - I am not sure how convice them that is their network which is causing the latency. Loopback? |
| 14:58.00 | ManxPower-work | danj1980: that's because extensions_custom is not part of Asterisk |
| 14:58.13 | ManxPower-work | aiksa[LV]: I have no ideas on that issue |
| 14:58.35 | ManxPower-work | danj1980: what version of Asterisk |
| 14:58.59 | danj1980 | ManxPower-work: 1.4 |
| 14:59.28 | aiksa[LV] | ManxPower-work: I still hope - that worked before. You changed this and that. I changed nothing. So that must be your problem. |
| 15:00.01 | aiksa[LV] | naive hope, of this statement to have any effect, but still worth the effort |
| 15:00.32 | danj1980 | ManxPower-work: This is the verbose shown when I park a call. Parked SIP/IP-0000018d on 701@parkedcalls. Will timeout back to extension [incoming_calls] 01615551234, 3 in 600 seconds |
| 15:01.07 | danj1980 | ManxPower-work: I need to change the callback because at the moment, if a call isnt taken off park, the caller is going back to the start of the queue. |
| 15:02.39 | ManxPower-work | danj1980: you'll have to debug your dialplan and figure out why |
| 15:03.15 | SuPrSluG | _cgc: this is from the sample queues.conf and may pertain to your issue http://pastebin.com/m69cf712d |
| 15:03.43 | danj1980 | ManxPower-work: do I need to create my own call parking dialplan? at the moment, i just enable it in features.conf and then let asterisk deal with it. |
| 15:05.23 | ManxPower-work | danj1980: you may need to. The last time I dealt with parking issues was in 1.2. In 1.2 the parking app lies about where it will timeout to. |
| 15:05.27 | _cgc | SuPrSluG: no, because even if i reload app_queue.so they still show up as invalid |
| 15:06.08 | _cgc | I thought I had it working a minute ago, but false alarm, seems it sorf of worked for a minute :( |
| 15:06.14 | SuPrSluG | post your modules.conf it is the order in which they load that appears to be important |
| 15:06.39 | Katty | eppigy: I"M IN THE MOOD FOR LOVE |
| 15:06.44 | Katty | eppigy: SIMPLY BECAUSE YOU"RE NEAR ME |
| 15:06.47 | danj1980 | ManxPower-work: is looks like 1.4 lies too, because it didnt go to [incoming_calls] 01615551234, like that verbose said that I pasted earlier. |
| 15:07.09 | ManxPower-work | danj1980: did it go to [incoming_calls] exten => s,1, ? |
| 15:07.18 | _cgc | http://pastebin.ca/1731868 |
| 15:08.21 | _cgc | it looks to me as though they are all on auto which should be fine shouldn't it? |
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| 15:10.33 | SuPrSluG | yes. but with autoload it think it will load app_queue before chan_local or pbx_config. |
| 15:12.18 | danj1980 | ManxPower-work: No, "Returning to park-dial,SIP/kesher_201,1" |
| 15:12.31 | SuPrSluG | you may be able to unload app_queue and chan_local then try reloading them in the order suggested. Other than that, i'm stumped. |
| 15:12.43 | _cgc | i just figured something out, if i replace my queues.conf with the Local/ one, then just run 'reload app_queue.so' it sort of works.... well.. it rings 1 phone in the queue, but only 1 |
| 15:13.17 | SuPrSluG | do your memeber show as valid? |
| 15:13.25 | _cgc | but it doesn't say any of them are invalid anymore |
| 15:13.38 | SuPrSluG | that's a good thing |
| 15:13.42 | ManxPower-work | danj1980: create an exten => _SIP/.,1,Goto(contextyouwant,extenyouwant,priorityyouwant) on a context called [parked-calls] |
| 15:14.05 | ManxPower-work | drat, that won't work as / means "callerid match" |
| 15:14.58 | ManxPower-work | you could try an exten => _.,1,(contextyouwant,extenyouwant,priorityyouwant) in a context called [parked-calls] USUALLY _. is a very bad idea, but it may be what you need. |
| 15:16.16 | ManxPower-work | you could also try exten => _SIP.,1,Goto(.... |
| 15:16.36 | danj1980 | ManxPower-work: ok, i'll see what I can come up with using that. |
| 15:16.37 | danj1980 | thanks |
| 15:16.46 | SuPrSluG | _cgc: try using preload => for pbx_config and chan_local in modules.conf |
| 15:16.58 | danj1980 | Should I log a bug regarding the parking lying issue? |
| 15:17.29 | ManxPower-work | danj1980: file a bug about it lying |
| 15:18.06 | ManxPower-work | danj1980: But it's been doing that since like Asterisk verison 0.65 so don't expect it to be fixed. |
| 15:19.03 | aiksa[LV] | ManxPower-work: what an optimism :) |
| 15:19.39 | ManxPower-work | aiksa[LV]: after a bug existing for 8 years I lost all optimism about that bug |
| 15:20.05 | danj1980 | ManxPower-work: maybe its time for me to take a look at some source code. |
| 15:20.43 | ManxPower-work | danj1980: I can't be sure, but I think I once filed a report about it, and I think the issue was fixed in a later release, but if that is the case the bug is back. |
| 15:20.52 | Katty | anyone send voicemail notifications via sms to cingular carriers? |
| 15:21.09 | Katty | well email. |
| 15:21.14 | ManxPower-work | It would have been at least 5 years ago. |
| 15:21.17 | SuPrSluG | aren't they att now |
| 15:21.22 | ManxPower-work | e-mail != SMS! |
| 15:22.10 | Katty | SuPrSluG: i don't know. but...10digitphonenumber@cingular.com doesn't seem to work |
| 15:22.38 | ManxPower-work | Katty: Google will tell you the correct domain. Something like mycingular.com or something silly like that. |
| 15:22.51 | Katty | ManxPower-work: i was actually refering to a wikipedia page |
| 15:22.57 | Katty | ManxPower-work: which i got off google (= |
| 15:23.01 | Katty | ManxPower-work: but i will have another look. |
| 15:23.18 | ManxPower-work | Katty: I think it took me about an hour the last time I had to find the info. |
| 15:26.31 | Katty | ManxPower-work: i don't suppose you still have it somewhere in a voicemail.conf do you? (= |
| 15:27.30 | SuPrSluG | number@mycingular.textmsg.com |
| 15:27.53 | Katty | SuPrSluG: did you get that off google, or is that something you have working? |
| 15:28.00 | SuPrSluG | google |
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| 15:28.18 | SuPrSluG | http://edgedirector.com/htm/page.htm |
| 15:28.19 | Katty | google also shows mobile.mycingular.com, and cingularme.com |
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| 15:29.03 | sbrath | for the SMS question, check out www.gammu.org |
| 15:29.05 | SuPrSluG | list a few possibilities for cingualr |
| 15:29.33 | sbrath | If you have a compatible phone laying around, you can enslave it on your server and use it to send outbound sms messages nativly |
| 15:30.26 | Katty | sbrath: i'll just stick with the gateway, thanks. |
| 15:30.48 | Katty | SuPrSluG: i'll go through the variations, surely it's one of these |
| 15:31.20 | SuPrSluG | they certainly don't make easy |
| 15:32.14 | SuPrSluG | i'd use the time proven eeenie meeenie mynie moh methodology |
| 15:34.54 | sbrath | Katty: Just an FYI, I researched it because I wanted to use SMS for notifying me that the servers were down :) |
| 15:36.55 | benngard | has any1 tested the new nec ap300 dect base? |
| 15:37.48 | Katty | sbrath: that's nice. |
| 15:38.27 | Katty | SuPrSluG: i just tried all 12 of those variations (= |
| 15:38.36 | Katty | SuPrSluG: gotta wait for the guy to show up so i can figure out which one worked. |
| 15:38.44 | Katty | SuPrSluG: would you be interested in the results? |
| 15:38.46 | ManxPower-work | Katty: do you have a cingular phone? |
| 15:38.55 | Katty | ManxPower-work: no, i carry a sprint phone |
| 15:39.18 | ManxPower-work | Katty: tell someone with a Cingular phone to e-mail you from the phone. Then you'll have the From: address. |
| 15:39.34 | Katty | no one here has a cingular phone |
| 15:39.37 | Katty | we're a sprint dealer. |
| 15:39.40 | ManxPower-work | I bet it will be from some ATT address |
| 15:40.06 | Katty | i will figure it out ManxPower-work, it will just take some time. |
| 15:40.18 | Katty | and i am a very patient person (= |
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| 15:43.40 | _cgc | SuPrSluG: thanks for the help, it looks like I have it fixed finally :) |
| 15:44.17 | Katty | patch is tearing up the squirrel food this morning |
| 15:44.26 | SuPrSluG | great. was it the modules loading out of order? |
| 15:46.00 | Katty | infobot: crittercam |
| 15:46.01 | infobot | rumour has it, crittercam is Katty's broadcast of The Nut House @ http://ustre.am/8H5d |
| 15:46.04 | _cgc | yes, well.... that was why they were showing up as invalid, then i just had to change my extensions.conf around abit |
| 15:46.10 | Katty | ^- Patch. |
| 15:49.09 | sbrath | Anyone using Aastra 480i phones, I want to know if BLA works with Asterisk. |
| 15:49.46 | SuPrSluG | you should post your findings somewhere. someone will be very grateful |
| 15:50.37 | SuPrSluG | sbrath: not using them but i know it works |
| 15:51.20 | SuPrSluG | sbrath: You mean BLF right? |
| 15:51.55 | sbrath | Bridged Line Apearance or sometimes called Shared Call Apperance by Broadsoft. |
| 15:53.24 | eppigy | Katty: :D |
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| 15:53.52 | Katty | eppigy: guten morgan |
| 15:54.03 | eppigy | GUTEN KITTEN |
| 15:55.43 | SuPrSluG | sbrath: looks like 1.6 has SLA support |
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| 16:09.09 | ManxPower-work | Remember BLF works great in Asterisk, but SLA (shared line appearance) is complicated to setup and is not the same as BLF. |
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| 16:09.23 | Jeffy | Morning guys. |
| 16:09.28 | ManxPower-work | the doc/ directory of the Asterisk source should have info on SLA with Asterisk |
| 16:10.18 | Jeffy | I have a bug/featuer issue with AsteriskNow - Not sure if you guys manage it so i'll put it in both channels. The latest ASTERISK NOW! is missing the mpg123 package out of the install. Initally MOH wont upload. when i manually downloaded, configured, make and make installed the package the issue is now clearly resolved. |
| 16:10.27 | Jeffy | Not sure if you guys are aware of this. or where i should start a ticket/bug etc |
| 16:10.41 | ManxPower-work | Jeffy: Ask on the AsteriskNOW channel. This channel is for Asterisk |
| 16:10.43 | ManxPower-work | ~guis |
| 16:10.44 | infobot | guis is, like, "FreePBX/Trixbox is to Asterisk as Windows 95 is to DOS" |
| 16:10.50 | Jeffy | lol |
| 16:10.59 | Jeffy | i'll let em know then. |
| 16:11.00 | Jeffy | thanks guys |
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| 16:16.29 | Katty | firefox just crashed :< |
| 16:18.46 | Katty | patch is still on the feeder. |
| 16:19.05 | Kobaz | crashy crashy |
| 16:19.09 | Kobaz | just like asterisk :P |
| 16:20.04 | Katty | yeah yeah, what else is new? ;) |
| 16:20.20 | Kobaz | actually i'm doing some checks of customer boxes |
| 16:20.26 | Kobaz | i have a 1.6.0.10 that's been up for 5 weeks |
| 16:20.29 | Katty | how's that workin out for you |
| 16:21.17 | Kobaz | and a 1.6.0.13 that's been up for 6 weeks |
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| 16:22.02 | Kobaz | and a 1.4.21.2 that's been up for 33 weeks |
| 16:22.20 | bmoraca | i had a 1.4.24 that was up for 250 days...before the colo had a UPS explode...not cool |
| 16:22.49 | Kobaz | and a 1.6.0.19 that's been up one week, with one core file |
| 16:23.03 | Kobaz | that one usually crashes about once every week, or once every two weeks |
| 16:23.26 | Kobaz | doesn't matter the version either.. it was running 1.6.0.10 for a while, and kept crashing, so i upgraded, and no help |
| 16:24.02 | bmoraca | my favorite was my core router...had 3.75 years of uptime...once again, before the colo's UPS exploded |
| 16:24.07 | Kobaz | heh |
| 16:24.07 | Kobaz | aw |
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| 16:25.20 | Katty | eppigy: tummyache :< |
| 16:25.34 | Kobaz | mmm, need to write some more asterisk modules |
| 16:25.36 | jblack | bleh. My windows box trojan infection got really bad. |
| 16:25.54 | bmoraca | that was an expensive day...killed like two of our servers with the power spike. luckily it was the day after thanksgiving, so most of our customers were out of the office |
| 16:26.18 | Kobaz | jblack: so don't use trojans then |
| 16:26.45 | eppigy | rubs Katty's belly |
| 16:26.52 | eppigy | tummyaches are bad :< |
| 16:27.20 | Katty | painkillers are good! |
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| 16:27.42 | Kobaz | you guys familiar with GROUP()'s |
| 16:28.24 | Katty | i'm not |
| 16:28.35 | Kobaz | I |
| 16:28.43 | Katty | course i'm not a guy either. |
| 16:28.45 | Kobaz | i'm writing a new function to set variables on a group |
| 16:28.49 | Katty | so your question wasn't really directed towards me. |
| 16:28.51 | Kobaz | i'm wondering what to name it |
| 16:28.54 | Kobaz | hah, Katty :P |
| 16:29.11 | Kobaz | i was thinking of something like: |
| 16:29.11 | Katty | name it snickerdoodles. |
| 16:29.14 | Kobaz | Set(GROUP()=mygroup@mycategory); |
| 16:29.14 | Kobaz | Set(GROUP_VAR(=mygroup@mycategory,myvar)=myval); |
| 16:29.23 | Katty | that'd work |
| 16:29.50 | Katty | personally, i like snickerdoodles better tho |
| 16:29.57 | bmoraca | Kobaz, to what end? |
| 16:29.58 | Kobaz | and then, to get it: Set(something=${GROUP_VAR(mygroup@mycategory,myvar)}) |
| 16:30.20 | Kobaz | what ends what where who? |
| 16:30.46 | bmoraca | what's the purpose of said function? i can't really see much use for it |
| 16:30.49 | Kobaz | oh |
| 16:30.51 | Kobaz | group variables |
| 16:30.58 | Katty | porpoise. |
| 16:31.04 | Kobaz | along side of channel variables |
| 16:31.21 | Kobaz | lets say i have a group of channels involved in a call, and all the channels are related somehow |
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| 16:31.32 | Kobaz | and i want to set a variable that all the channels will use |
| 16:31.37 | Kobaz | and i only want to set it in one place |
| 16:31.56 | Kobaz | i could use SHARED(), but then i have to cycle through all the channels, and set a var on each one |
| 16:32.14 | Kobaz | and then, if a new channel joins the group |
| 16:32.19 | bmoraca | i understand the point...but i fail to see the purpose...i can't think of a reason to do that...maybe it's just me |
| 16:32.28 | Kobaz | it would need to look at one of the other channels already in the group, and get the current value |
| 16:32.49 | Kobaz | well, need a feature like that... i was just wanted some feedback on usage |
| 16:33.01 | Kobaz | er.. s/need/i need/ |
| 16:33.32 | Kobaz | dialplan is seriously lacking in a lot of data access functionality |
| 16:33.35 | Katty | eppigy: i can't decide on the booties. |
| 16:33.41 | Kobaz | i've been making a collection of new functions and applications |
| 16:33.48 | Kobaz | the boobies? |
| 16:34.18 | Katty | eppigy: http://tinyurl.com/ycf5dza or http://tinyurl.com/ybg3n5f |
| 16:34.57 | Katty | Kobaz: why would i buy those? |
| 16:35.12 | Kobaz | dunno |
| 16:35.35 | Kobaz | high keel winter boots |
| 16:35.37 | bmoraca | Kobaz, that's what i like about func_odbc |
| 16:35.39 | Kobaz | that doesn't sound comfortable |
| 16:35.46 | Katty | Kobaz: that's not a heal, that's a wedge. |
| 16:36.00 | Kobaz | well whatever it is |
| 16:36.00 | Kobaz | heh |
| 16:36.03 | Kobaz | raised-heel style |
| 16:36.28 | Kobaz | bmoraca: ah, you can store whatever you want in a database... but now your left with maintaining state in a database, which for me, is a design no-no |
| 16:36.29 | Katty | you can't trip on a wedge. |
| 16:36.47 | Katty | well i suppose you could. i have tripped going up stairs before :P |
| 16:37.18 | Katty | hmm. i think i like the brittney boot better. |
| 16:37.35 | Pan3D | Kobaz: whether you're storing as a variable in the environment, or in a database, you're still storing and maintaining it. |
| 16:37.37 | Katty | in brown/cream. |
| 16:38.05 | Pan3D | there's really little difference as long as all the channels can access it |
| 16:38.18 | Kobaz | Pan3D: there's a big difference |
| 16:38.33 | Kobaz | Pan3D: if you store data in the channel, it gets nicely cleaned up when the channel goes away |
| 16:38.34 | Katty | Pan3D: BIG DIFFERENCE, like the difference between heel and wedge! |
| 16:38.40 | Katty | Pan3D: i have no idea what i'm talking about. |
| 16:38.46 | Pan3D | Katty: I like those differences |
| 16:38.54 | Pan3D | Katty: pics of you in heels :) |
| 16:38.55 | Kobaz | Pan3D: store it in the database, and now you have to manage the cruft after the channels go away... *and* channel names can get reused |
| 16:39.13 | Katty | Pan3D: yeah that's not going to happen. |
| 16:39.24 | Pan3D | Kobaz: what because you have to clean a variable vs. just updating it in the db next time around? I don't see that as a relevant difference. |
| 16:39.46 | Pan3D | you don't have to manage anything if you're using the same key |
| 16:39.55 | Kobaz | and how do you index it |
| 16:40.05 | Pan3D | also, creating a cleanup handler into the db is trivial |
| 16:40.07 | Kobaz | by channel name |
| 16:40.09 | Pan3D | but whatever, you have your way |
| 16:40.17 | Kobaz | actually you could index by uniqueid, then you wont have name conflicts |
| 16:40.21 | Kobaz | but you still have to clean up |
| 16:40.25 | Pan3D | OH NO |
| 16:40.32 | Pan3D | WORK |
| 16:40.37 | Kobaz | the point is, data objects should be self-contained |
| 16:40.39 | Pan3D | anyway, good luck |
| 16:40.50 | Kobaz | this is why programs become bloated and unmaintainable |
| 16:41.01 | eppigy | Katty: my fav is the brittney |
| 16:41.11 | Pan3D | lol at whopping generalizations |
| 16:41.15 | Katty | eppigy: the black isn't so pretty |
| 16:41.20 | Katty | eppigy: but the brown/cream is |
| 16:41.28 | Kobaz | because of lack of functionality for self-containment... and so now... without that type of built-in support.. the app developer is left to code the same stuff |
| 16:41.47 | Pan3D | Kobaz: things become unmaintainable not because of containment (also, note that your idea of channel containment is an illusion) |
| 16:41.53 | Kobaz | nope |
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| 16:42.04 | eppigy | Katty: i think they are max_sexy |
| 16:42.09 | Pan3D | they become unmanageable because of bad, or lack of, coding |
| 16:42.09 | Kobaz | it's a perfect data-store since it's only there when the channel is there |
| 16:42.29 | Pan3D | the * environment can't be teh datastore for everything, hence the db |
| 16:42.37 | Kobaz | and if you need to store information about a channel... what better place to store it, than in the channel itself |
| 16:42.49 | timholum | Hello, I am having trouble getting sip for skype working on my asterisk box, I am wondering if anyone has any experiance with it |
| 16:42.56 | Kobaz | and now you're left with db maintenance |
| 16:42.59 | Pan3D | Kobaz: becuase there are lots of things people store that they DO want to be persistant. |
| 16:43.02 | Kobaz | which as trivial as it sounds.. is unneeded work |
| 16:43.09 | Kobaz | yes |
| 16:43.12 | Kobaz | persistance, use a db |
| 16:43.16 | Pan3D | Kobaz: yes, DB maintenance... which millions of applications do every day. |
| 16:43.21 | Kobaz | real-time data, store it in the real-time datastore |
| 16:43.24 | Pan3D | you say DB maintenance like it's a bad word |
| 16:43.29 | Kobaz | it's needless work |
| 16:43.34 | Pan3D | lol |
| 16:43.42 | Pan3D | we're on oppposite sides of this pond man |
| 16:43.46 | Kobaz | assuming you had the thing i'm in the process of writing |
| 16:43.54 | Pan3D | no, it's work required to design a good system |
| 16:44.13 | Kobaz | yes, and a good system can be designed by using good tools |
| 16:44.22 | Kobaz | and i'm adding one more tool to the toolbox |
| 16:44.22 | Corydon76-dig | Kobaz: I would strongly recommend that you complete your work before advertising it. Otherwise, it's just vaporware |
| 16:44.31 | Kobaz | use it, or don't use it |
| 16:44.31 | Pan3D | I'm amazed on a daily basis at how much the programmers of today want to cut out of design |
| 16:44.31 | Kobaz | Corydon76-dig: heh |
| 16:44.35 | Pan3D | it's mind boggling |
| 16:44.43 | Kobaz | Corydon76-dig: heh, i always finish what i talk about |
| 16:45.00 | Kobaz | Pan3D: that statement makes no sense |
| 16:45.35 | Pan3D | There is a lot of information that people store from channels post-call, so putting all one's eggs in the channel environment is a silly notion. |
| 16:45.37 | Corydon76-dig | Pan3D: you mean making the users of their utilities not have to plan anything? |
| 16:46.03 | Kobaz | Pan3D: it's one of those classical engineering situations in where you say "wow, this problem would be so easy to solve if I only had X" |
| 16:46.17 | Kobaz | Pan3D: again, it's context-dependent |
| 16:46.46 | Kobaz | Pan3D: i said before, if you need persistant data, you store it in a database, if you're storeing real-time data, store it where all the other real-time data lives |
| 16:47.04 | Pan3D | Corydon76-dig: I think lack of planning is not really viable if someone wants to use a tool geared for a phone system. |
| 16:47.23 | Pan3D | that *should* involve planning (having a DB setup, etc. if the case me be) |
| 16:47.31 | Pan3D | it's a phone system, not Legos. |
| 16:47.33 | Kobaz | Pan3D: do you disagree with the context-dependent usage? |
| 16:47.51 | Kobaz | Pan3D: i never argued against good design, you're just picking that out of the air |
| 16:48.52 | Pan3D | I think your complaint was whiney, that's what triggered my response. It came off as bad design because you couldn't store a global for a channels in the way you wanted. |
| 16:48.57 | Kobaz | Pan3D: if you don't think that you should use different storage mechanisims depending on what you need... then by all means, store your channel variables in a database instead of using the built-in channel variable store |
| 16:49.22 | Pan3D | but you're not asking to use it in the fashion in which it was designed (at least, to our understanding) |
| 16:49.38 | Kobaz | no, asterisk isn't currently designed the way i want to use it |
| 16:49.41 | Pan3D | and there is an option which makes sense in 98 percent of the cases |
| 16:49.53 | Kobaz | and because it's a lovely bit of open source, i'm adding the functionality i'm missing |
| 16:50.00 | Pan3D | go for it. |
| 16:50.04 | Kobaz | thanks |
| 16:50.05 | Kobaz | heh |
| 16:50.20 | Pan3D | I'll write a tool that clobbers your global channel variables and brings down the systme. |
| 16:50.21 | Kobaz | that's all i wanted to say... it wasn't supposed to be a big bruha |
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| 16:50.40 | Kobaz | Pan3D: sounds good to me... whatever floats your boat... it's your system :P |
| 16:51.07 | Pan3D | Yeah, I understand what you're saying, but I don't see it as rational. |
| 16:51.10 | Pan3D | anyway |
| 16:51.12 | Pan3D | good luck |
| 16:51.14 | Kobaz | heh |
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| 17:11.24 | bcrisp | avatar: boooo |
| 17:11.34 | bcrisp | walked out of the theater |
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| 17:12.19 | Joel | Kobaz, do you mean you're re-implementing _ ? |
| 17:13.24 | Joel | I know I'm jumping in the middle of a conversation, just curious is all. |
| 17:13.28 | Katty | hmm. |
| 17:13.36 | Katty | the beef tips with gravy for lunch was not so good. |
| 17:14.02 | Katty | in fact, i'm pretty sure this lipgloss tastes better than that did. |
| 17:14.15 | Pan3D | was there mashed potatoes involved? |
| 17:14.17 | Katty | no |
| 17:14.21 | Kobaz | Joel: is there already a function to do that? |
| 17:14.28 | Katty | it was one of those frozen prepared food items. |
| 17:14.32 | Pan3D | oh |
| 17:14.33 | Katty | in a baggie, which you steam. |
| 17:14.40 | Pan3D | cringes |
| 17:14.50 | Katty | i know, but i've been feeling so lazy |
| 17:14.54 | Joel | Kobaz, to access other channel variables? |
| 17:15.06 | Kobaz | Joel: to set variables associated to a group |
| 17:15.07 | Pan3D | takes Katty out to a real restuarant for beef tips, mashed potatoes and veggies. |
| 17:15.16 | Kobaz | Joel: yes i know about IMPORT() to get other channel variables |
| 17:15.21 | Katty | Pan3D: i usually cook. |
| 17:15.22 | Kobaz | but it doesn't function by group |
| 17:15.29 | Katty | Pan3D: in fact, i have an entire blog dedicated to my recipes. |
| 17:15.34 | Joel | Kobaz, "group" ? |
| 17:15.35 | Katty | Pan3D: last count was like 140 something i think |
| 17:15.45 | Kobaz | i actually wrote an EXPORT() function too, since SHARED() isn't good enough |
| 17:15.51 | Pan3D | Katty: I don't think I have the url, share? |
| 17:16.01 | Joel | Kobaz, so far you've done nothing but talk about a solution to a problem that you haven't explained. |
| 17:16.03 | Kobaz | Joel: yeah groups, ala the GROUP() series of functions |
| 17:16.11 | Katty | Pan3D: 42ndrecipestreet.blogspot.com |
| 17:16.16 | Kobaz | Joel: i already explained it, although maybe not in enough detail |
| 17:16.31 | Katty | Pan3D: correction, 138 recipes. |
| 17:16.41 | Pan3D | Katty: thanks. I will let you know when I try one and how it turns out. |
| 17:17.01 | Katty | Pan3D: i would love to make some recommendations, based on my favorite recipes. |
| 17:17.04 | Katty | Pan3D: if you'd like, of course. |
| 17:17.05 | Kobaz | you have a series of channels that are part of a group, and are all related... you want to set a variable on the group, that all channels of that group can read |
| 17:17.18 | Pan3D | Katty: sure, which do you suggest? |
| 17:17.27 | Katty | Pan3D: beef or chicken? |
| 17:17.37 | Katty | Pan3D: or beans. |
| 17:17.47 | Pan3D | hmmmm.... how about your top of each category |
| 17:17.50 | Katty | k |
| 17:18.26 | Kobaz | Joel: now... you can cycle through all the channels in the group, and set the channel variable individually, but then you're left with the task of when a new channel joins the group (or leaves the group) you need to set, or unset that variable |
| 17:18.32 | Katty | Pan3D: http://42ndrecipestreet.blogspot.com/2009/07/moms-spaghetti.html <- Beef |
| 17:19.10 | Joel | kobaz a group is nothing but a channel variable, you know that right? |
| 17:19.17 | Katty | Pan3D: http://42ndrecipestreet.blogspot.com/2009/07/creamy-basil-chicken-alfredo.html <- chicken. |
| 17:19.38 | Kobaz | Joel: yes i know how it works |
| 17:19.47 | Katty | Pan3D: beans is a hard call. |
| 17:19.52 | Pan3D | heh |
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| 17:19.57 | Pan3D | well, pick one of your favs |
| 17:20.09 | Katty | Pan3D: http://42ndrecipestreet.blogspot.com/2009/07/ryans-country-beans.html |
| 17:20.14 | Joel | Kobaz, so to implement what you want, you would indeed have to loop over all channels in a group, be it in asterisk dial plan, or in C, etc. |
| 17:20.25 | Kobaz | Joel: there is a a channel variable in addition to a groups linked list |
| 17:20.30 | Katty | Pan3D: the authentic refried bean recipe (made with corona) is damn good too |
| 17:20.50 | Katty | Pan3D: the recipe says michelob amber ultra, but don't use it |
| 17:20.54 | Katty | Pan3D: use corona |
| 17:21.02 | Kobaz | joel: the linked list keeps track of the groups in use, so it would be easy to just add a datastore to the linked list |
| 17:21.06 | Pan3D | Cool, I'm a corona fan. that works out perfectly. |
| 17:21.15 | Pan3D | I'll try these and let you know how it goes. |
| 17:21.18 | Pan3D | thank you |
| 17:21.32 | Katty | if i had to pick my favorite |
| 17:21.35 | Katty | off the ENTIRE website |
| 17:21.39 | Katty | it'd be this one: http://42ndrecipestreet.blogspot.com/2009/07/should-be-illegal-oven-bbq-ribs.html |
| 17:21.45 | Kobaz | Joel: no, you wouldn't need to cycle the channels. you would need to acces the group datastore only |
| 17:22.02 | Joel | Kobaz, you're still required to loop a structure. |
| 17:22.07 | Katty | Pan3D: you will never do ribs another way, ever again. |
| 17:22.08 | Joel | that's all I was saying |
| 17:22.10 | Katty | Pan3D: period. |
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| 17:22.18 | Pan3D | Katty: lol, awesome. I will try it. |
| 17:22.24 | Kobaz | well yeah, that's unavoidable unless you make a hashtable or something |
| 17:23.01 | Katty | i should make ribs this weekend. |
| 17:23.15 | Katty | and get ryan a case of heiniken |
| 17:23.32 | Kobaz | static AST_RWLIST_HEAD_STATIC(groups, ast_group_info); |
| 17:25.54 | timholum | I am having issues with my sip trunk, I am using skype for sip ( the skype beta ) and if I do sip show registry it shows up but if I do Dial( SIP/skypeusername/number it comes up with sip_xmit of ..... ( len 782 ) to 63.209.144.201:0 returned -1: Invalid argument, any Ideas as to what I am doing wrong? |
| 17:26.21 | Kobaz | have you tried dialing out to a non-skype peer |
| 17:27.25 | Kobaz | even if you have asterisk dialing itself... get that working first... and then try skype... an error like that... i think skype is sending back something asterisk doesn't like |
| 17:27.28 | Joel | Kobaz, why does a global variable not work for you? |
| 17:27.34 | timholum | I can dial my internal sip numbers, and I can dial out my regular phone line |
| 17:27.40 | Kobaz | Joel: because it's global... not global to the group |
| 17:27.46 | Joel | Kobaz, why does a global variable not work for you? |
| 17:27.47 | Kobaz | Joel: although you could prefix it with the group name |
| 17:27.51 | Katty | eppigy: dude. |
| 17:28.10 | Kobaz | but still.. then it's a dialplan global |
| 17:28.11 | Joel | as in, what's the technical reason, not the conceptual reason. |
| 17:28.19 | Kobaz | not stored in a channel, or group |
| 17:28.23 | Pan3D | lol |
| 17:28.23 | Kobaz | for self-contained cleanup |
| 17:28.26 | Katty | eppigy: http://tinyurl.com/yb5ydbw |
| 17:28.39 | Kobaz | the developer shouldn't have to worry about cleanup |
| 17:28.41 | Kobaz | that's the point |
| 17:28.43 | Pan3D | .... |
| 17:28.45 | Pan3D | what? |
| 17:28.47 | Katty | eppigy: tell me that isn't awesome! |
| 17:28.55 | sbrath | SuPrSluG: You mentioned that 1.6 has support for SLA, but does the 1.4 firmware of i480 aastra work with it? |
| 17:29.08 | Kobaz | when i write libraries, and systems... i write my system so that the developer using it, has as little work to do as possible to get what they need done |
| 17:29.09 | Pan3D | a developer shouldn't have to worry about cleanup in their code? ahahahahaha |
| 17:29.34 | Pan3D | man, I think PHP and Ruby have destroyed the minds of young coders everywhere. |
| 17:29.46 | Katty | developers are constantly cleaning things up |
| 17:29.49 | Katty | and making it better, and prettier |
| 17:29.49 | Kobaz | Pan3D: go back and write assembler them |
| 17:29.54 | Katty | and occasionally adding notes |
| 17:29.55 | Kobaz | s/them/then |
| 17:30.05 | timholum | Kobaz so I can Dial( SIP/200 ) and it dials my phone that is 200 |
| 17:30.06 | Kobaz | Pan3D: if you don't like things being done for you |
| 17:30.23 | Pan3D | Kobaz: dude, seriously, to say that a developer shouldn't be worried about cleanup in their code is slack. |
| 17:30.25 | Kobaz | timholum: you can paste the sip debug, and paste it here |
| 17:30.27 | Pan3D | total slack. |
| 17:30.34 | Kobaz | Pan3D: again, it's *context dependent* |
| 17:30.38 | timholum | yup one sec |
| 17:30.44 | Joel | Kobaz, I presume whomever was arguing with you before is because there is no technical advantage to what you're doing. |
| 17:30.47 | *** join/#asterisk Geminizer (n=whoami@cpe-76-180-27-4.buffalo.res.rr.com) |
| 17:30.52 | Kobaz | Pan3D: asterisk doesn't make you, as a dialplan developer, clean up your own channel variables when the channel hangs up |
| 17:30.57 | Joel | at least I see no added benefit. |
| 17:31.08 | Pan3D | Kobaz: CHANNEL VARIABLE |
| 17:31.09 | Kobaz | the channel hangs up, poof, there goes your variables |
| 17:31.12 | Kobaz | no work on the developer |
| 17:31.15 | Pan3D | single, not plural |
| 17:31.20 | *** join/#asterisk [TK]D-Fender (n=chatzill@64.235.218.194) |
| 17:31.28 | Kobaz | huh? |
| 17:31.29 | ManxPower-work | Well, except for your global variables, of course. |
| 17:31.36 | Pan3D | you run some risks with memory, etc. on other channels. You should definitely be thinking about cleanup. |
| 17:31.36 | ManxPower-work | they hang around forever. |
| 17:31.41 | Kobaz | yes, global variables don't get cleaned up, obviously |
| 17:31.43 | Kobaz | which is a problem |
| 17:31.46 | Pan3D | lol |
| 17:31.48 | Kobaz | in certain contexts |
| 17:31.49 | Pan3D | ahahahaha |
| 17:31.55 | Pan3D | I'm gonna die here |
| 17:31.59 | Pan3D | "Programming Lite" |
| 17:32.00 | Kobaz | Pan3D: wallow in your ignorance, thanks |
| 17:32.04 | Pan3D | lol |
| 17:32.05 | Geminizer | hello all. has anyone ever had the problem where WaitExten() reads in dialed numbers wrong? |
| 17:32.08 | timholum | Kobaz: http://pastebin.com/d31fecbc7 |
| 17:32.11 | Pan3D | no, experience. I teach coding man. |
| 17:32.12 | ManxPower-work | Also AstDB is persistent and is not automatically cleaned up. |
| 17:32.16 | Pan3D | and have been coding for 20 years. |
| 17:32.19 | Kobaz | Pan3D: then i would hate to have you as a teacher |
| 17:32.25 | Pan3D | yes, you would |
| 17:32.27 | Joel | ok kids |
| 17:32.29 | Pan3D | you've be expected to work |
| 17:32.30 | Pan3D | :) |
| 17:32.33 | Pan3D | you'd* |
| 17:32.47 | Kobaz | there is work, for the sake of work. yes, teach your kids to clean up after themselves |
| 17:33.02 | Kobaz | and then there is writing systems, and tools for those systems, that should behave nicely and clean up after themselves |
| 17:33.11 | Pan3D | look, basic coding practices dictate that you think about cleaning up what you've setup in code. |
| 17:33.24 | Kobaz | when you write a cgi script... you don't have to tell the web server... okay, i'm done, destroy all the resources you allocated for me |
| 17:33.29 | SuPrSluG | sbrath: generally the phones aren't the problem when doing SLA. FreeSWITCH and opensips/kamailio support out of the box. Haven't tried w/ * in a while though |
| 17:33.29 | Kobaz | the *system* does it for you |
| 17:33.35 | Pan3D | lol, cgi script |
| 17:33.46 | *** part/#asterisk batphone (n=will@rrcs-24-153-211-180.sw.biz.rr.com) |
| 17:33.53 | bcrisp | ? |
| 17:33.59 | Kobaz | asterisk dialplan is no different, it's scripting, with an interface to an engine (asterisk) |
| 17:34.14 | Pan3D | dude, it's a complex environment for telephony |
| 17:34.19 | Pan3D | it's not a webpage cgi script |
| 17:34.31 | ManxPower-work | Over and over again, I find that if I don't clean up after my script I have problems when that script is called a 2nd or 3rd, etc time on that same call. |
| 17:34.34 | Kobaz | no different than apache, which is a "complex system for web sites" |
| 17:35.04 | Pan3D | apache doesn't maintain state |
| 17:35.08 | Pan3D | (not directly) |
| 17:35.08 | bcrisp | are we talking about garbage collection? |
| 17:35.09 | Joel | Kobaz, I can give you many examples of cgi scripts which affect other scripts, and other child apache processes, so you might not want to try to use that as an example :) |
| 17:35.20 | Pan3D | bcrisp: partially |
| 17:35.20 | Kobaz | it does maintain a state for each connection, until the connection is ended |
| 17:35.26 | Pan3D | but more general |
| 17:35.27 | Kobaz | Joel: sure you can |
| 17:35.35 | Joel | cleaning up++; |
| 17:35.57 | Geminizer | also, regarding GLOBAL variables in dialplans... if two callers end up accessing the same dialplan context at the same time (on different channels), the global variables aren't shared between channels, correct? |
| 17:36.09 | timholum | Kobaz: any ideas? |
| 17:36.10 | Kobaz | global variables are global, period |
| 17:36.10 | ManxPower-work | Geminizer: why would you think that? |
| 17:36.17 | Pan3D | Kobaz: it maintains very minimial session state -- everthing else related to maintian variables is stored in teh session of the code environment (PHP, java, etc.) |
| 17:36.19 | Kobaz | any channel gets the same value |
| 17:36.39 | [TK]D-Fender | Geminizer: GLOBAL as in across ALL CALLS |
| 17:36.42 | ManxPower-work | Geminizer: same issue with global variables in programs |
| 17:36.50 | Kobaz | my point is... i'm not saying this should be java, where you just exit your function and magic happens here, and your memory is freed |
| 17:37.00 | bcrisp | global as in across threads? |
| 17:37.11 | Kobaz | it's a specific behavior for a specific function, for a specific usage |
| 17:37.14 | russellb | yes, across all threads |
| 17:37.17 | ManxPower-work | If you want exclusive access to a global variable in Asterisk then you want to use the locking features of the dialplan |
| 17:37.19 | Geminizer | ahh, ok... makes sense... so how would you allow a variable to be global across contexts, but localized to one channel |
| 17:37.27 | russellb | and if you're insane, later versions of Asterisk have locks in the dialplan to serialize access to shared resources |
| 17:37.31 | Kobaz | Geminizer: set a channel variable |
| 17:37.35 | Joel | Kobaz, I can give you many examples in java of memory leaks, where the garbage collector doesn't work, and you have to manually clean up, so again, not a good example :) |
| 17:37.37 | [TK]D-Fender | Geminizer: there is no such thing as varibale scope in contexts |
| 17:37.38 | Kobaz | Geminizer: but then it's not global |
| 17:37.43 | ManxPower-work | russellb: already does for some values of "lock" 8-) |
| 17:37.51 | [TK]D-Fender | Geminizer: * dialplan is not a structured programming language |
| 17:37.55 | Kobaz | Joel: you missed the point entirely |
| 17:38.03 | russellb | ManxPower-work: heh, perhaps |
| 17:38.13 | ManxPower-work | russellb: MacroLock, etc |
| 17:38.20 | russellb | nods |
| 17:38.22 | Kobaz | Joel: i'm not advocating magical cleanup for everything |
| 17:38.24 | ManxPower-work | TryLock as well I think. |
| 17:38.28 | Joel | Kobaz, no not at all, I'm just saying, what you envision isn't actually the case in languages that "auto" clean up. they all have situations and scenarios where it doesn't work. |
| 17:38.32 | Pan3D | Joel: exactly, same with Objective-C, etc. Clean is an important aspect of any coding. You can't expect it to always be done for you. |
| 17:39.16 | Joel | swt with java is a prime example of better fing make sure you clean up after yourself or you can run out of memory in a right hurry. |
| 17:39.17 | Geminizer | so can someone explain how I can have WaitExten() read in a caller's input in one context, then GoTo(...) another context and read back the number input from the previous context? |
| 17:39.23 | Qwell | even languages where you don't allocate memory (php) requires cleanup.. |
| 17:39.27 | Kobaz | timholum: i'm not super solid on sip messaging, but some guys here are |
| 17:39.36 | Qwell | create a file? you sure as hell better delete it if you don't need it anymore. |
| 17:39.44 | Kobaz | yeap, i agree |
| 17:39.51 | timholum | Ok, thanks |
| 17:40.14 | Joel | timholum, is that a paid license? does it come with any sort of support? |
| 17:40.33 | timholum | It is paid, I have no clue on the support |
| 17:41.05 | Kobaz | this conversation went way out of hand... heh... the only thing i was talking about... is it would be nice to have group channel variables, that got cleaned up for you |
| 17:41.20 | Joel | timholum, make a call again with sip debugging turned on? |
| 17:41.22 | timholum | I am almost positive the problem is on my end thought not skypes |
| 17:41.25 | Kobaz | not that every language needs cleanup, not that you never need to clean up, not that you shouldn't teach cleanup |
| 17:41.29 | timholum | one sec |
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| 17:41.50 | jblack | *@*@&%(. And &@&& and ##@*$ too. |
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| 17:42.27 | Joel | Kobaz, by all means, make the changes you need, just hope you can make a case to get it into trunk so you don't have to maintain your own branch of changes. |
| 17:42.29 | Kobaz | and my philosophy is that the system should do as much work as it can, when it can do it correctly |
| 17:42.42 | [TK]D-Fender | Geminizer: Wiatexten JUMPS to the exten that is matched as you dial. It is NOT read into a VARIABLE. |
| 17:42.54 | Kobaz | to reduce work on developers using the system |
| 17:43.02 | timholum | http://pastebin.com/d1e0651a4 |
| 17:43.03 | Pan3D | yeah, I disagree with that strongly. |
| 17:43.04 | [TK]D-Fender | Geminizer: If you wanted to read into a normal variable that YOU control you should have done a Read() |
| 17:43.36 | Katty | growls. |
| 17:43.40 | [TK]D-Fender | Geminizer: And if you did use WaitExten() then in the pattern that it matches YOU could copy ${EXTEN} to something else so that you can access that in the other context |
| 17:43.43 | Katty | work is pissing me off. Not Cool. |
| 17:43.58 | Kobaz | Pan3D: then do you also disagree with most modern programming and design of scripting languages? |
| 17:44.08 | Kobaz | which share that same philosophy |
| 17:44.16 | Joel | timholum, that's with sip debug? |
| 17:44.21 | ChannelZ | Qwell: You around? Quickie question |
| 17:44.40 | Joel | timholum, doesn't seem to look like it.. |
| 17:44.42 | timholum | I changed logger.conf to have debug |
| 17:44.47 | [TK]D-Fender | timholum: exten LIKE '\\_%' AND context = 'default' AND priority = '-1' ORDER BY exten <-- looks like an escaping failure |
| 17:44.56 | Joel | timholum, great, now do help sip debug |
| 17:45.12 | Pan3D | Kobaz: yes, many of them. I think the easier "do it for you languages" have created horrible programmers. |
| 17:45.24 | [TK]D-Fender | timholum: And that is NOT SIP DEBUG. That is merely an obnoxious level of core debug... |
| 17:45.28 | Kobaz | there will always be horrible programmers |
| 17:45.29 | Pan3D | but [TK]D-Fender is here and we should end this discussion |
| 17:45.32 | Pan3D | at least, I will |
| 17:45.36 | Pan3D | & |
| 17:45.39 | bcrisp | Pan3D - and which language is not a "do it for your" language? |
| 17:45.47 | [TK]D-Fender | exorcises Pan3D |
| 17:45.50 | Kobaz | c is a do-it-for-you language |
| 17:46.07 | bcrisp | do you write all your code in asm Pan? |
| 17:46.17 | [TK]D-Fender | I RELEASE THEE EVIL SPIRITS! THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS THEE! THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS THEE! |
| 17:46.22 | Pan3D | lol |
| 17:46.28 | Kobaz | pad3d: the compiler automatically sets up your data and code sections, manages allocations on the stack, handles function parameter passing |
| 17:46.39 | Pan3D | [TK]D-Fender: good to see you too |
| 17:46.53 | Kobaz | Pan3D: it's doing as much as it can do (within the design of the system), that it can do correctly |
| 17:47.57 | Kobaz | if you don't want your system to do anything for you, hell... write your instructions by hand, in binary |
| 17:48.27 | timholum | [TK]D-Fender and Joel : http://pastebin.com/d1670fbd5 |
| 17:48.42 | Kobaz | which, i used to do, when programming 8 bit microcontrollers, and lemme tell you, it's a royal pain |
| 17:48.54 | bcrisp | ok my head is starting to hurt |
| 17:49.30 | Kobaz | anyways, it's almost time for lunch |
| 17:49.34 | etfonhomey | [TK]D-Fendery, is GigE the only functional difference between the Polycom 550 and 560? |
| 17:49.54 | Joel | timholum, I think you've missed quite a bit... |
| 17:50.16 | *** join/#asterisk muiro (n=muiro@unaffiliated/muiro) |
| 17:50.17 | Joel | timholum, the second message is a bye, I think you missed a big part of the trace.. |
| 17:51.23 | Katty | eppigy: i found cuter booties. |
| 17:51.34 | Kobaz | Katty: i found some boots for you |
| 17:51.39 | Kobaz | Katty: http://www.vasque.com/vasque-shoe/7502-vasque/7502-vasque-mens-radiator-rio-red-gray |
| 17:51.45 | Kobaz | Katty: they are really warm |
| 17:51.51 | bcrisp | i want tacos |
| 17:51.57 | Katty | looks |
| 17:52.03 | Kobaz | Katty: they only make them in mens sizes, but you just gotta order smaller |
| 17:52.06 | Katty | bcrisp: tacos are pretty awesome. |
| 17:52.13 | *** join/#asterisk ariel_ (n=chatzill@63.214.236.169) |
| 17:52.17 | Katty | Kobaz: those DO look warm. |
| 17:52.28 | Kobaz | Katty: they msrp at like $450 |
| 17:52.29 | timholum | couleetechlink.com\test\debug.txt |
| 17:52.48 | timholum | http://www.couleetechlink.com\test\debug.txt so it shows up as a link |
| 17:53.16 | Katty | Kobaz: http://tinyurl.com/ybj6b8z |
| 17:53.34 | Qwell | timholum: No such domain |
| 17:53.55 | Kobaz | Katty: heh |
| 17:54.08 | Kobaz | Katty: those look... big |
| 17:54.28 | timholum | http://www.couleetechlink.com/test/debug.txt |
| 17:54.29 | Katty | Kobaz: they're cute! |
| 17:54.47 | [TK]D-Fender | tomhOK, phone hung up... whats the problem? |
| 17:54.57 | Kobaz | they look like your feet would be on fire within several seconds of putting them on |
| 17:55.06 | Katty | Kobaz: http://tinyurl.com/y9nq99t <- those are the others |
| 17:55.14 | timholum | althought I think I missed what was needed in there. :( is there any way to pipe the console to a txt file? |
| 17:55.27 | Katty | Kobaz: i think i like the eddie bauer better tho |
| 17:55.30 | timholum | my putty is only letting me copy 60 or so lines |
| 17:55.35 | [TK]D-Fender | timholum: thats why God invented SCROLL-BACK |
| 17:55.37 | bcrisp | thats a setting |
| 17:55.44 | [TK]D-Fender | timholum: Then CHANGE your Putty |
| 17:56.04 | Kobaz | or set up full logging in logger.conf |
| 17:56.10 | Kobaz | and copy from the log file |
| 17:56.24 | bcrisp | timholum, punish your putty |
| 17:56.32 | Kobaz | nutty putty |
| 17:57.02 | ariel_ | or you can tail the /var/log/asterisk/Master and see what's there |
| 17:57.40 | Katty | you know why some people are just naturally happier than others? |
| 17:57.41 | eppigy | Katty: I do like those :D |
| 17:57.43 | Kobaz | depending the log settings sip debug might not be logging there |
| 17:57.47 | Katty | their blood type is Be Positive. |
| 17:58.29 | Kobaz | heh |
| 17:58.52 | *** join/#asterisk KaneHau (n=KaneHau@133.40.166.155) |
| 17:58.55 | Katty | and you can guess what blood type the downers are. |
| 17:59.02 | KaneHau | Aloha nui loa |
| 17:59.09 | Katty | aloha! |
| 17:59.13 | Katty | hugs KaneHau |
| 17:59.33 | KaneHau | *oooffff* |
| 17:59.52 | Kobaz | katty: http://tinyurl.com/yaenx4m |
| 18:00.14 | KaneHau | day 2 of "Fun With Asterisk" |
| 18:00.36 | Corydon76-dig | What the heck? |
| 18:00.41 | Corydon76-dig | hugs KaneHau |
| 18:00.43 | Katty | Maita'i oe? |
| 18:00.58 | Katty | Ua ite oe i te parau marite? |
| 18:01.00 | KaneHau | too early for that katty |
| 18:01.05 | Katty | oh. |
| 18:01.09 | Katty | you speak english. jolly good. |
| 18:01.27 | Kobaz | Katty: http://tinyurl.com/yblkbll those are my winter boots |
| 18:01.29 | KaneHau | not many people speak hawaiian outside of hawaii |
| 18:01.32 | timholum | here we go http://www.couleetechlink.com/test/debug.txt |
| 18:01.34 | Katty | KaneHau: voipmonk can do extended translate if required. |
| 18:01.42 | voipmonk | uhhh |
| 18:01.45 | voipmonk | whats up? |
| 18:01.49 | Katty | nothing. |
| 18:02.09 | Katty | he speaks english |
| 18:02.09 | voipmonk | m'kay |
| 18:02.09 | KaneHau | good grief |
| 18:02.09 | jblack | is confused. |
| 18:02.11 | jblack | I thought voipmonk was human |
| 18:02.14 | Katty | jblack: he is. |
| 18:02.22 | Kobaz | haha |
| 18:02.32 | jblack | looks at voipmonk |
| 18:02.34 | Katty | Kobaz: 'snowkat II' |
| 18:02.39 | voipmonk | looks at jblack |
| 18:02.44 | Katty | jblack: his wife is polynesian. |
| 18:02.49 | jblack | voipmonk: What, so you translate things into other languages for katt.. |
| 18:02.56 | jblack | Oh, ah |
| 18:03.01 | voipmonk | sometimes, jblack - |
| 18:03.02 | KaneHau | katty: seeings as Hawai'i is the 50th state in the US... English is a required language :) (However, we are the only state that officially recognizes two state languages) |
| 18:03.14 | Kobaz | Katty: i have an older model, but it's waterproof and warm, a little too warm for the office |
| 18:03.16 | voipmonk | wife is Pacific Islander |
| 18:03.19 | voipmonk | :) |
| 18:03.25 | jblack | Kobaz: Your wife? |
| 18:03.27 | Kobaz | Katty: for winter hiking i have my mountaineering boots though |
| 18:03.34 | Kobaz | jblack: what? |
| 18:03.37 | Katty | KaneHau: i wouldn't say it's 'required' |
| 18:03.53 | KaneHau | as per the school system it is |
| 18:03.54 | jblack | cries in confusion |
| 18:03.57 | Katty | KaneHau: i bet there's a lotta folk over on the west coast who don't know much of it at all |
| 18:04.14 | Kobaz | me and katty are just looking at boots |
| 18:04.18 | Joel | timholum, what's with the trailing 0? |
| 18:04.22 | coppice | KaneHau: we all use a two state language these days. its all 1's and 0's |
| 18:04.24 | Katty | i do like me some boots. |
| 18:04.38 | Katty | what. |
| 18:04.40 | Katty | wait a minute |
| 18:04.42 | Joel | timholum, To: <sip:99051000001553@sip.skype.com:0> 63.209.144.201:0 |
| 18:04.43 | KaneHau | can't wait to go sailing |
| 18:04.45 | Katty | this is that north face place |
| 18:04.53 | Katty | i keep seeing people around here wearing The North Face coats |
| 18:04.55 | Katty | EVERYWHERE |
| 18:05.01 | Kobaz | haha |
| 18:05.10 | Katty | i asked my friend from colorado about it |
| 18:05.12 | ariel_ | is glad he does not need to buy or use any boots where he lives .... |
| 18:05.12 | Katty | he's never heard of it |
| 18:05.14 | KaneHau | I keep seeing people around here wearing.. uh... next to nothing at all |
| 18:05.26 | coppice | Katty: a triumph of marketing over value for money |
| 18:05.36 | Katty | coppice: probably. |
| 18:05.37 | ariel_ | KaneHau: same here |
| 18:05.53 | Katty | coppice: you can't go to a retail store and not see at least a couple people wearing it |
| 18:05.56 | Joel | KaneHau, same here |
| 18:06.05 | timholum | Joel, I have no clue, I dont have that in there anyware |
| 18:06.08 | Katty | coppice: the thing is, i can't even FIND this store anywhere around southern missouri |
| 18:06.16 | Joel | timholum, not in your configuration anywhere? |
| 18:06.25 | KaneHau | likes 'em near naked :) |
| 18:06.33 | *** join/#asterisk beers218 (i=45c6b055@gateway/web/freenode/x-izlcujauxwrfbkee) |
| 18:06.45 | Katty | coppice: which means they're driving at LEAST 120 miles to st. louis to get one of these coats. |
| 18:07.08 | Joel | timholum, you first see it in the very first invite, To: <sip:99051000001553@sip.skype.com:0> |
| 18:07.18 | timholum | no my register string is register => 99051000001553:PASSWORD@@sip.skype.com |
| 18:07.34 | coppice | Katty: so the coats are popular but shops selling the aren't? |
| 18:07.35 | timholum | only one @ sign though |
| 18:07.36 | timholum | :) |
| 18:07.45 | Joel | odd, maybe it's supposed to be theree... I'm not a sip expert by any means. |
| 18:07.54 | Katty | coppice: i just don't understand. |
| 18:08.02 | coppice | I'd have to detour all of 10m to get a north face jacket tomorrow |
| 18:08.05 | beers218 | in asterisk 1.6, would app_fax (receivefax) be able to answer a direct fax call to a DID or do i need something else to make it work? |
| 18:08.11 | *** join/#asterisk catojo (n=catojo@189.24.27.167) |
| 18:08.16 | Katty | coppice: well i guess i do. i /do/ drive 120 miles to get my bath/beauty products. |
| 18:08.35 | Katty | coppice: 120 miles is no detour. |
| 18:08.45 | [TK]D-Fender | beers218: app_faxgives you dialplan aps that YOU call whenever the hell YOU tell it to. |
| 18:09.01 | coppice | 10 metres isn't much off a straight path :-) |
| 18:09.02 | ariel_ | onlne shops, ups is everywhere |
| 18:09.20 | Katty | coppice: what, its' right next door? |
| 18:09.23 | *** join/#asterisk Dibbler (n=Dibbler@87-194-103-72.bethere.co.uk) |
| 18:09.45 | coppice | no, but I will talk past several shops selling them tomorrow |
| 18:10.05 | Katty | well it must be very popular for some reason. |
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| 18:12.51 | beers218 | haha ok, so if i wanted to set up a DID, i should be able to do something like this: exten => xxxxxxxxxx,1,rxfax(${FAXFILE}) after doing some variable setups and have it pick up the call and download the fax to the file? |
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| 18:13.45 | mbrevda | why not? |
| 18:14.00 | beers218 | ive tried this and it just basically ignores the rxfax command... seems like it goes right over it. |
| 18:14.53 | mbrevda | then your dialplan is setup wrong. replace rxfax with noop (just to prove to yourself that it has nothing to do with fax) - it will skipp the noop |
| 18:15.04 | beers218 | hmm ok |
| 18:16.02 | coppice | isn't it called ReceiveFAX, or something similar, in 1.6? |
| 18:16.18 | [TK]D-Fender | beers218: As written that isn't even a pattern match. |
| 18:16.28 | beers218 | yes i know |
| 18:16.31 | [TK]D-Fender | beers218: Second I'm prestty sure you should ANSWER the call first |
| 18:16.43 | beers218 | i do, just didnt paste that part of it. |
| 18:16.59 | [TK]D-Fender | beers218: Third... where the hell is that varible getting a VALUE from on a new incoming call? |
| 18:17.19 | [TK]D-Fender | beers218: Well you haven't shown us anything of value to help you with then, have you? |
| 18:17.47 | beers218 | i was looking for a general answer, one sec and ill get a pastebin |
| 18:17.59 | [TK]D-Fender | \o/ |
| 18:23.33 | sbrath | any downside to using a discontinued i480 aastra phone? |
| 18:24.38 | citywok | sbrath: i've got a couple, they work okay. |
| 18:24.44 | citywok | they're a little buggy and crash every now and then |
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| 18:24.58 | citywok | the 57i's are definitely nicer |
| 18:25.08 | sbrath | and about 200$ each |
| 18:25.09 | [TK]D-Fender | meh |
| 18:25.39 | [TK]D-Fender | My 57i CT made me wish for my bedside Polycom IP 301.... |
| 18:25.41 | citywok | the aastra CT series is nice too, but the handsets do get staticy every now and then like they are having trouble finding a good channel |
| 18:25.55 | [TK]D-Fender | sbrath: Shit price for an old model I wouldn't recommend |
| 18:26.03 | citywok | and the handset charger sucks, and the handsets crash every now and then when they run out of battery. and the battery life is subpar |
| 18:26.32 | sbrath | polycom's better? |
| 18:26.33 | citywok | [TK]D-Fender: what didn't you like about it? |
| 18:26.36 | [TK]D-Fender | citywok: Half of the batteries out there are subpar..... |
| 18:26.41 | [TK]D-Fender | sbrath: Hell year |
| 18:26.53 | citywok | the aastra speakerphone is like, epic though |
| 18:27.00 | [TK]D-Fender | lol |
| 18:27.11 | citywok | i played with a few of the cheaper polycoms and they suuucked on speakerphone |
| 18:27.14 | [TK]D-Fender | tinny & hollow |
| 18:27.18 | sbrath | I'm not looking for the wireless stuff, just a desk-set, with shared call aperance, and 6+ SIP channels. |
| 18:27.18 | citywok | but the aastra picks up my cat from 20' away |
| 18:27.43 | citywok | hmm, i've got 50 57's and havent had any complaints, it's crystal clear all around |
| 18:27.46 | [TK]D-Fender | sbrath: Break down your call needs in detail please. |
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| 18:28.26 | timholum | Getting further, I found out that I need to set the CALLERID(num) to my skype sip username |
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| 18:32.00 | Mango | I'm trying to troubleshoot a SIP trunk that doesn't work. When I place a call, the other side rings, but I cannot hear anything. (Not sure about the other side.) |
| 18:32.07 | sbrath | we have about 20 stations, need 6 people to be able to cover a few queues, and be able to make outbound calls that are CID stamped with the 800#, and also be able to make outbound calls with their extension number. Need to have ability to have their phone/ and a soft-phone have the same# Shared Call Apperance. Also need the screen on the phones to display the QueueName that a call is coming in on. |
| 18:32.22 | TJNII | ~sipnat |
| 18:32.23 | infobot | [~sipnat] Quick guide on configuring * + SIP behind NAT : http://www.aocomputing.net/?p=3 , otherwise check the WIKI at http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+SIP+NAT+solutions |
| 18:32.30 | Mango | I am looking at SIP Debug. It says "Peer audio RTP is at port [some random IP]:16558 |
| 18:32.32 | TJNII | Mango ^ |
| 18:33.48 | Mango | That IP address is not the IP as configured in sip.conf. |
| 18:33.48 | Mango | Is the trunk trying to reinvite my audio someplace else? |
| 18:33.54 | [TK]D-Fender | sbrath: that can all be done on a SINGLE call appearance with CID manipulation and simple dialplan |
| 18:34.09 | voipmonk | sbrath: thats pretty simple you'll need to learn how to string together callerid and the queuenames for a new callerid so get familiar with the "Set" Application. |
| 18:34.41 | beers218 | [TK]D-Fender: nevermind, got it working |
| 18:34.51 | voipmonk | Mango - your router or firewall is probably dropping the RTP audio because it doesnt have a rule for it to go through |
| 18:34.55 | [TK]D-Fender | sbrath: And forget the concept of "Shared Call Appearance". Not Happening |
| 18:35.10 | sbrath | Can they make an additional outbound call while they have one on hold then with a single line/ |
| 18:35.10 | [TK]D-Fender | beers218: Glad to hear you fixed it |
| 18:35.13 | voipmonk | takes his lightsaber and cuts the idea in half for sbrath |
| 18:35.36 | voipmonk | yes you can |
| 18:35.38 | ManxPower-work | sbrath: that is a question for your phone vendor |
| 18:36.09 | [TK]D-Fender | sbrath: You'd have to sbe a LOT more specific about your use of the term "single line" |
| 18:39.21 | KaneHau | I have the purple hardware echo cancellation board. In the DADHI configuraiton, what do I use for the echocanceller name? |
| 18:39.40 | beers218 | [TK]D-Fender: i got it to actually pick up and react to the fax, now i just have to make it receive it, getting errors in my asterisk log now about nothing being received or some BS |
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| 18:41.02 | [TK]D-Fender | beers218: logs = BLEH. Go pay attention to CLI. |
| 18:41.18 | beers218 | says even less in CLI |
| 18:41.33 | [TK]D-Fender | beers218: how much do *I* see of it right now? |
| 18:41.37 | beers218 | haha |
| 18:43.30 | beers218 | giev me a min |
| 18:44.09 | bcrisp | i love quiznos bbq sauce |
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| 18:47.19 | ChannelZ | toasty |
| 18:48.07 | bcrisp | ChannelZ, avatar was such a Dances with Wolves rip off |
| 18:48.28 | beers218 | also, for reference, what is the highest level of CLI verbosity i can set with "core set verbose atleast xxxx"? |
| 18:48.35 | ChannelZ | I don't think I ever saw dances with wolves |
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| 18:49.06 | bcrisp | cheesiest moment: "They're about to attack Home Tree" bla |
| 18:49.06 | ChannelZ | but it's certainly not a groundbreaking concept for a story but it was OK |
| 18:49.51 | ChannelZ | Yeah that actually threw me off a little, all of a sudden they started calling it Home Tree but didn't seem to me they'd made a big deal about it prior |
| 18:50.04 | Joel | earth quake :) |
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| 18:50.29 | [TK]D-Fender | bcrisp: ... Pocahontas ripoff <- |
| 18:50.35 | [TK]D-Fender | bcrisp: Aim a little to the left ;) |
| 18:50.46 | bcrisp | home tree.. i mean come on |
| 18:50.49 | [TK]D-Fender | beers218: 10 is healthy |
| 18:51.13 | bcrisp | their dialects even sound like native american |
| 18:51.28 | bcrisp | (im soo sure they would just make him one of the tribe like that) |
| 18:52.37 | bcrisp | we walked out after Ripley was presented naked on the healing tree or whatever |
| 18:52.46 | ChannelZ | but he was Touched by the light-up dandelions! |
| 18:52.53 | bcrisp | oh ya! |
| 18:53.38 | beers218 | http://pastebin.com/d4cd92f44 |
| 18:53.49 | ChannelZ | well it was an OK movie, from a technical point of view it was pretty impressive but I didn't go crazy gaga over it like most |
| 18:53.59 | beers218 | CLI says the same things |
| 18:54.04 | ManxPower-work | beers218: 9999999999 |
| 18:54.22 | Joel | isn't he the dude who did titanic? |
| 18:54.27 | Joel | that was my excuse to not go see it |
| 18:54.30 | Joel | over hyped trash |
| 18:54.31 | ManxPower-work | (or as manny 9's as you want, asterisk doesn't care) |
| 18:54.55 | jblack | wtf.. search at google for "I am extremely terrified of". |
| 18:54.58 | jblack | That just ain't right. |
| 18:55.13 | [TK]D-Fender | beers218: I don't see any confirmation that the call coming in was indeed a fax. You should also play a minimal sound file (silence/1) to set up the RTP path |
| 18:55.21 | timholum | hmm, I think I found my problem, looking at the sip debug I have Contact: <sip:99051000001553@192.168.1.51> instead of Contact: <sip:99051000001553@asterisk.software.couleetechlink.com> , Is there anyway to change that? |
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| 18:55.49 | [TK]D-Fender | WTF! Canadians are only #2!? |
| 18:56.16 | [TK]D-Fender | timholum: ... |
| 18:56.18 | [TK]D-Fender | ~sipnat |
| 18:56.19 | infobot | [~sipnat] Quick guide on configuring * + SIP behind NAT : http://www.aocomputing.net/?p=3 , otherwise check the WIKI at http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+SIP+NAT+solutions |
| 18:56.35 | [TK]D-Fender | timholum: Been linked a few dozen times now.... |
| 18:56.45 | ManxPower-work | What IS it with people not being able to correctly hangup the handset on Polycoms. |
| 18:56.51 | timholum | Sorry, |
| 18:57.24 | jblack | ManxPower-work: The cradle is mis-designed. |
| 18:57.37 | ManxPower-work | ~answers |
| 18:57.38 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, answers is Asterisk Book: http://astbook.asteriskdocs.org & SIP w/ NAT: http://www.aocomputing.net/?p=3 & Wiki: http://www.voip-info.org & docs: /path/to/src/asterisk/doc & 1.4 .vs. 1.6.0 .vs. 1.6.1: : /path/to/src/asterisk/UPGRADE*.txt |
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| 18:57.48 | jblack | I hadn't noticed that until you just mentioned it. |
| 18:57.51 | ManxPower-work | jblack: like most of us they overestimated the user |
| 18:58.09 | ManxPower-work | It would not be so bad if the phone played a Howler tone when left offhook. |
| 18:58.21 | InTheWings | How can I have a rule like cisco's ones "<0:0033>xxxxxxxxx" in asterisk ? 0|0033+. ? |
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| 18:58.50 | ManxPower-work | InTheWings: Rather than use dialplan stuff from a device most of us have never used, tells what you want to do. |
| 18:58.55 | jblack | Nah. There we good designs in the 50s - 90s, where if you get close, the handset either falls into place, or falls off. |
| 18:59.14 | Joel | I have a snom with no hook switch |
| 18:59.17 | Joel | it uses a magnet |
| 18:59.19 | beers218 | [TK]D-Fender: so what your suggesting i do is answer the call, play a silence sound, and then do the dialplan faxreceive app? |
| 18:59.20 | InTheWings | ManxPower-work: I want 0xxxxxxxx -> 0033xxxxxxxxx |
| 18:59.33 | [TK]D-Fender | beers218: At a minimum |
| 18:59.34 | jblack | The cornered edges allow the handsets to catch before they settle down in the proper on-hook position. |
| 18:59.36 | ManxPower-work | jblack: I'm going to recommend the place the phone on the wall so if they don't hangup the handset falls on the floor |
| 18:59.41 | beers218 | ok ill give that a shot. |
| 18:59.50 | ManxPower-work | InTheWings: 0033${EXTEN:1} |
| 18:59.51 | jblack | ManxPower-work: That's probably a good idea. |
| 19:00.14 | ManxPower-work | jblack: I've never been to the location so I don't know if that's workable or not. |
| 19:00.35 | ManxPower-work | InTheWings: now go read the Asterisk Book |
| 19:00.36 | ManxPower-work | ~answers |
| 19:00.37 | infobot | somebody said answers was Asterisk Book: http://astbook.asteriskdocs.org & SIP w/ NAT: http://www.aocomputing.net/?p=3 & Wiki: http://www.voip-info.org & docs: /path/to/src/asterisk/doc & 1.4 .vs. 1.6.0 .vs. 1.6.1: : /path/to/src/asterisk/UPGRADE*.txt |
| 19:00.54 | jblack | that lip needs a redesign. I didn't realize it was that bad. |
| 19:00.55 | InTheWings | ManxPower-work: but your rule matches all numbers :/ I want only 0prefixed ones |
| 19:01.04 | jblack | has a 330 sitting right here. |
| 19:01.16 | InTheWings | I'll have a look |
| 19:01.19 | jblack | InTheWings: Go. Read. The. Book. |
| 19:01.31 | ManxPower-work | InTheWings: exten => _0xxxxxxxx,1,Set(BOB=0033${EXTEN:1}) |
| 19:02.10 | ManxPower-work | jblack: they have the little thingy that sticks up for wall usage, try putting it in that config, rather then the flush config. |
| 19:04.44 | jblack | I don't have a problem, myself. |
| 19:04.58 | jblack | I'm experimenting for you, 'cause you mentioned it |
| 19:10.02 | Katty | scowls at things. |
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| 19:10.38 | Katty | shreds curtains |
| 19:11.12 | eppigy | :< |
| 19:11.28 | Katty | sulks. |
| 19:12.02 | Katty | i have to fight with my company every pay period to get my comissions i'm owed. |
| 19:12.10 | Katty | correction, i have to fight with the sales staff. |
| 19:12.29 | Katty | i do not have to fight with the owner. he always backs me up.... and when needed smacks the sales staff upside the head. |
| 19:12.33 | eppigy | makes Katty some Fancy Feast |
| 19:12.34 | Katty | which does make me happy :> |
| 19:12.53 | eppigy | well just look forward to that part |
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| 19:17.31 | Katty | yesh |
| 19:17.49 | Katty | you'd think the boss would get tired of dealing with their stupidity tho |
| 19:18.42 | eppigy | yeah dude |
| 19:18.45 | eppigy | I would be like |
| 19:18.54 | eppigy | man you dont want me to come down here again |
| 19:19.24 | eppigy | I will hire some unemployed people and feed them rockstars until they exceed your sales quota two fold |
| 19:19.55 | eppigy | DONT THINK FOR A SECOND I WONTR |
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| 19:22.14 | Katty | no, they're great sales reps |
| 19:22.17 | Katty | they just have a really crappy memory |
| 19:22.23 | Katty | and they don't want to do any more work than is required. |
| 19:22.38 | Katty | but i am good with numbers, and records, and i know how to use OUTLOOK TASKS |
| 19:22.41 | Katty | i do not miss a comission. |
| 19:22.57 | *** part/#asterisk muiro (n=muiro@unaffiliated/muiro) |
| 19:23.06 | Katty | the boss is probably all like, omg you're complaining to me again about missing another $400 comission |
| 19:23.19 | Katty | for like the 5th time this month |
| 19:23.53 | Katty | i agree it's not much, but hey, i don't care. |
| 19:23.59 | Katty | that's FREE BOOTS |
| 19:24.34 | eppigy | yeha dude |
| 19:24.37 | eppigy | $400 is $400 |
| 19:24.47 | eppigy | That is a nice electronic toy |
| 19:24.56 | Katty | or 5 VS bras. |
| 19:25.00 | eppigy | yes |
| 19:25.02 | eppigy | that too |
| 19:25.26 | *** part/#asterisk Joel (n=jjshoe@wsip-70-183-82-162.sd.sd.cox.net) |
| 19:25.32 | Katty | a netbook. |
| 19:25.46 | Katty | big ole lcd panel. |
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| 19:26.00 | Katty | YOU GET MY DRIFT. |
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| 19:26.20 | eppigy | yesh |
| 19:27.23 | Katty | eppigy: do you remember Max? |
| 19:27.30 | Katty | eppigy: played by uhh...jessica alba i think it was |
| 19:27.39 | eppigy | I do not think so |
| 19:27.49 | eppigy | despite probable hotness |
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| 19:28.28 | *** mode/#asterisk [+o malcolmd] by ChanServ |
| 19:28.43 | Katty | bummer :< |
| 19:28.46 | Katty | i just found her coat. |
| 19:28.53 | *** part/#asterisk ManxPower-work (n=EWieling@216.186.151.147) |
| 19:29.06 | Katty | i will get comparative photos. |
| 19:29.14 | eppigy | yes please |
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| 19:30.35 | Katty | http://images.starpulse.com/Photos/Previews/Dark-Angel-tv-09.jpg <- article number 1. |
| 19:31.09 | eppigy | oh dark angel |
| 19:31.13 | eppigy | never watched it |
| 19:31.16 | eppigy | but super hot |
| 19:31.57 | Katty | http://tinyurl.com/ybwzy47 <- article number 2. |
| 19:32.22 | eppigy | pretty darn close |
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| 19:32.47 | Katty | http://tinyurl.com/yaz8bbf <- this one looks cooler. |
| 19:33.17 | Katty | it has pocketses. |
| 19:33.20 | smooth_penguin | hey Katty, whats the critters link |
| 19:33.42 | Katty | infobot: crittercam |
| 19:33.42 | infobot | i heard crittercam is Katty's broadcast of The Nut House @ http://ustre.am/8H5d |
| 19:33.47 | Katty | smooth_penguin: ^- |
| 19:35.19 | bcrisp | infobot: bcrisp |
| 19:35.22 | bcrisp | grr |
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| 19:37.33 | Katty | there are tons of those micheal jackson jackets everywhere |
| 19:38.02 | ChannelZ | you too can dress like a pedo! |
| 19:38.34 | Katty | hehehe |
| 19:38.57 | Katty | i'll get a bomber jacket, one of those hats with the ear flaps, and some goggles just to make a statement |
| 19:39.06 | Katty | statement: current trends look RETARDED |
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| 19:40.15 | ChannelZ | for some reason I feel like there is a picture with a model in that get-up already out there somewhere... |
| 19:40.52 | Katty | yeah probably |
| 19:41.05 | Katty | and she's probably holding modern warfare 2 |
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| 19:43.20 | Katty | oh god. you're right. |
| 19:43.22 | Katty | http://www.millionlooks.com/outfits/hermes-autumn-winter-2009-2010/ |
| 19:44.01 | Katty | ^- ChannelZ |
| 19:44.28 | Kobaz | Katty: the models look so happy don't they |
| 19:44.54 | Katty | they have a very poor attitude. |
| 19:45.02 | Katty | they often knock other models down. |
| 19:45.09 | Katty | it's a bad profession to be in. |
| 19:45.26 | ChannelZ | and there you have it! |
| 19:45.35 | Katty | they're all snobs. |
| 19:45.39 | Kobaz | what's with this ww2 bomber pilot look |
| 19:45.39 | ChannelZ | Theyre all starving |
| 19:45.43 | Katty | that too |
| 19:45.49 | Katty | they can get fired if they gain too much weight |
| 19:45.52 | ChannelZ | that's why they're so grumpy |
| 19:46.12 | Katty | possibly part of it |
| 19:46.41 | Kobaz | do people actually buy this stuff |
| 19:46.58 | Katty | oh yes. |
| 19:47.05 | ChannelZ | only lady agaga |
| 19:47.08 | Katty | and they'll spend thousands and thousands of dollars to wear a certain brand. |
| 19:47.14 | Katty | it's truly crazy |
| 19:47.59 | Kobaz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDvVZ02m9gQ |
| 19:48.26 | KaneHau | confused... I am using AMI and the ORIGINATE action. I am trying to simply have my FXO card dial an external phone number. What should my "Channel:" command look like? |
| 19:48.28 | timholum | I have gotten further on getting my skype for sip trunk working. I now at least authenticate. I still have no clue what I am doing wrong thought, I have all my config's at http://asterisk.software.couleetechlink.com/phone could anyone take a look and see what I am doing wrong |
| 19:48.31 | KaneHau | FXO is on channel 1 |
| 19:48.35 | Katty | oh god. |
| 19:48.42 | Katty | that's hilarious |
| 19:48.58 | Katty | i wanna go mudhole water skiing |
| 19:53.48 | timholum | anyone have any clue's? |
| 19:54.14 | TJNII | COLNEL MUSTARD IN THE LIBRARY WITH THE CANDLESTICK! |
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| 19:54.28 | timholum | :) you got it |
| 19:54.33 | TJNII | Yay! |
| 19:55.48 | [TK]D-Fender | KaneHau: the same way it would for the 1st parm of Dial() |
| 19:56.33 | KaneHau | ok, I think I don't have dahdi setup properly... if I issue a "dahdi show channels" in *, all I see is the header, but no channels defined |
| 19:56.42 | KaneHau | however, dahdi show status shows me what looks like proper status |
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| 19:58.38 | Geminizer | hello all. In "exten => s,n, ...." what variable holds the value of s? I thought it was ${EXTEN}, but that just returns "s" |
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| 19:59.32 | Katty | Geminizer: s is just another extension. |
| 20:00.08 | Katty | Geminizer: what are you trying to accomplish? |
| 20:00.18 | [TK]D-Fender | Geminizer: Value of "s"? HUH? |
| 20:00.43 | Geminizer | I have an inbound route associated with 1-800-111-2222 (it points to context [text_dp]) |
| 20:00.44 | [TK]D-Fender | Geminizer: that is an EXTENSION. If you lookat ${EXTEN} in there it will say "s", because that is where you ARE |
| 20:01.01 | [TK]D-Fender | Geminizer: Inbound route? Pardon? |
| 20:01.21 | Katty | i have an inbound route. it points to my stomach. |
| 20:01.34 | Geminizer | so is there a variable which holds 18001112222 ? |
| 20:01.35 | bcrisp | Geminizer, are you working with a macro? |
| 20:01.38 | [TK]D-Fender | GET IN ME BELLY! |
| 20:01.42 | timholum | KaneHau: you have to "#include dahdi-channels.conf" in your chan_dahdi.conf |
| 20:01.48 | [TK]D-Fender | bcrisp: Do Not Feed... |
| 20:01.58 | [TK]D-Fender | bcrisp: I'm fishing... don't yank the line... |
| 20:02.01 | KaneHau | timholum: thank you, checking |
| 20:02.03 | bcrisp | lol |
| 20:02.06 | Geminizer | basically I want a way to determine which DID invoked that dialplan |
| 20:02.20 | [TK]D-Fender | Geminizer: Maybe you should look at the call as it comes in <- |
| 20:02.20 | Geminizer | as I have multiple dids entering that [text_dp] context |
| 20:02.23 | timholum | KaneHau: I had the same issue a week ago :) |
| 20:02.34 | bcrisp | callerid ? |
| 20:03.43 | Geminizer | if I have 1-305-222-6666 calling 1-800-111-222, the callerid just returns the 305 number... when what I really would like is the 800 number |
| 20:03.58 | Katty | Geminizer: set a variable |
| 20:03.59 | beers218 | anyone else use receiveFAX in their dialplan? im having some issues with it not starting a transmission |
| 20:04.04 | Katty | Geminizer: then reroute the call |
| 20:04.33 | Katty | beers218: i use recievefax. |
| 20:04.39 | beers218 | mkay |
| 20:05.05 | etfonhomey | I've installed asterisk on a 1U server with no sound card and 1 PCIe slot (which has a Sangoma card in it). What would I need a sound card for other than paging or CLI dialing? |
| 20:05.21 | beers218 | it interacts with the fax machine calling into the extension, and when i do a core show channel xxxx it only shows data being sent out of asterisk, not being received. and tricks or tips? |
| 20:05.44 | [TK]D-Fender | Geminizer: Go. Look. At. The. CALL. |
| 20:05.45 | Katty | etfonhomey: that's a good question. |
| 20:05.55 | Katty | etfonhomey: i can't really think of anything. |
| 20:06.03 | Katty | etfonhomey: maybe line in for exteral audio device? |
| 20:06.10 | etfonhomey | For MoH? |
| 20:06.16 | Katty | yeah |
| 20:06.20 | [TK]D-Fender | etfonhomey: Who said it was needed for paging? its an option like anything else |
| 20:06.29 | [TK]D-Fender | etfonhomey: And I have never seen a need for CLI dialing. |
| 20:06.47 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: he's not asking about a need for it |
| 20:06.55 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: he's asking about the uses of a sound card |
| 20:07.04 | etfonhomey | Just wanting to know what I lose with no sound card. |
| 20:07.09 | [TK]D-Fender | [15:05]<etfonhomey>I've installed asterisk on a 1U server with no sound card and 1 PCIe slot (which has a Sangoma card in it). What would I need a sound card for other than paging or CLI dialing? <-- Katty... O RLY? |
| 20:07.26 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: yes, rly. |
| 20:07.37 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: now stop being mister cranky pants. |
| 20:07.59 | [TK]D-Fender | [15:06]<Katty>[TK]D-Fender: he's not asking about a need for it <etfonhomey> What would I need a sound card for other than paging or CLI dialing? |
| 20:08.05 | [TK]D-Fender | Katty: Reading FAIL :p |
| 20:08.35 | [TK]D-Fender | Katty: "What would I need it for" vs "he's not asking about a need for it" |
| 20:08.36 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: i think you're having a interpretation error. |
| 20:08.44 | [TK]D-Fender | declares unilateral victory |
| 20:08.52 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: why are we still having this conversation? |
| 20:09.00 | [TK]D-Fender | Katty: Humour? |
| 20:09.06 | Katty | oh, right. carry on. |
| 20:09.12 | bcrisp | implodes |
| 20:09.16 | etfonhomey | All I want to know is what functionality do I lose by not having a sound card? |
| 20:09.17 | [TK]D-Fender | Katty: Clearly snickerdoodles.... |
| 20:09.38 | [TK]D-Fender | etfonhomey: Chan OSS, as an audio source to pipe for MoH, and... whatever |
| 20:09.45 | beers218 | Katty: how did you implement it? im having "channel troubles" according to the channel info |
| 20:09.51 | [TK]D-Fender | etfonhomey: its not a mixing source or whatever... |
| 20:09.59 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: yes, snickerdoodles indeed. |
| 20:10.20 | Katty | beers218: http://42ndgeekstreet.blogspot.com/2009/11/asterisk-faxing.html |
| 20:11.50 | beers218 | Katty: thats what i figured... i happen to be using an amd64 system :( |
| 20:12.14 | Katty | i am sorry to hear that. |
| 20:12.16 | etfonhomey | [TK]D-Fender, thanks. The servers have an internal USB type A port. Does CentOS 5.x support USB audio very well? I've never tried it. |
| 20:12.47 | beers218 | i will have to recompile, etc |
| 20:14.53 | KaneHau | timholum: thank you very much, I now have Channel 1 showing up properly |
| 20:15.22 | timholum | KaneHau: Your welcome |
| 20:15.33 | [TK]D-Fender | etfonhomey: What do you actually want to do? |
| 20:16.13 | jblack | I'm going to request my fbi file. =) |
| 20:16.24 | Katty | i already did. |
| 20:16.27 | Katty | it's on my desk. |
| 20:16.31 | Kobaz | anything good? |
| 20:16.36 | Katty | yes. |
| 20:16.54 | etfonhomey | [TK]D-Fender, I like using the CLI dial command for testing. Just thinking of ways to have it without having a USB device sticking out the back. |
| 20:16.54 | jblack | anything good that you're willing to share with us? |
| 20:17.08 | Katty | delivering a meal to the wrong house, (breaking and entering), then go back and re entering. |
| 20:17.30 | jblack | oh, you're picking on me. |
| 20:17.38 | Kobaz | hmm |
| 20:17.42 | Katty | and this comes as a shock, how? |
| 20:17.43 | jblack | I thought you meant you had requested your _own_ file. :P |
| 20:18.00 | Katty | i don't need to request my own file. |
| 20:18.16 | Katty | the less i know the better. |
| 20:18.36 | jblack | I'm pretty sure I have a file. |
| 20:18.59 | Katty | we all do |
| 20:19.24 | jblack | when I worked for ubuntu I traveled a lot. By the end of my employ there, I was "randomly selected" on every trip I made. |
| 20:19.36 | [TK]D-Fender | etfonhomey: Get a friggen softphone :p |
| 20:19.53 | [TK]D-Fender | etfonhomey: Console = ASS |
| 20:20.02 | Katty | jblack: randomly selected for...what? |
| 20:21.32 | jblack | pat downs, extra searches on my carry-ons, questioning. |
| 20:21.45 | Katty | ah. i see. |
| 20:21.58 | Katty | maybe you just look SUPICIOUSLY SMART |
| 20:22.08 | bcrisp | they hit me with the hand-held metal detector once |
| 20:22.22 | bcrisp | in the funny bone |
| 20:22.25 | jblack | hit you, or waved you? |
| 20:22.26 | jblack | oh, heh. |
| 20:22.41 | ariel_ | tsa in the use tend to pick out the people that don't look like they have done anything so they don't really have to work much...;-) |
| 20:22.52 | bcrisp | thats probably true... |
| 20:22.59 | Katty | they never stop me. |
| 20:23.12 | Katty | but i probably don't look smart, or plotty. |
| 20:23.19 | Kobaz | the stupid tsa, took a 90% empty tube of toothpaste |
| 20:23.26 | Chainsaw | I got the mystery S on my boarding pass once in the USA. |
| 20:23.28 | Kobaz | and they said, sorry, you can only bring 2ox of liquid |
| 20:23.37 | ariel_ | I get stopped allot, I am short, white, old with gray hair, |
| 20:23.38 | Katty | Kobaz: that's hilarious. |
| 20:23.40 | Chainsaw | But indeed, other then that I've never been stopped. |
| 20:23.41 | Kobaz | i'm like... that *is* less than 2oz of liquid, it's painfully obvious |
| 20:23.57 | Kobaz | and they said, no sorry, they go by what the label says |
| 20:23.57 | bcrisp | i get stopped every time |
| 20:24.03 | bcrisp | i was strip searched in thailand |
| 20:24.09 | Katty | ugah. |
| 20:24.11 | bcrisp | (at gunpoint) |
| 20:24.17 | Chainsaw | Well, once at Stansted. I had two laptops in my bag and forgot about it. So I only took one out onto the belt. |
| 20:24.19 | Kobaz | so i guess i can bring a 40oz bottle through security, as long as the label says 2oz |
| 20:24.20 | Chainsaw | And then they got confused. |
| 20:24.24 | Katty | i know that here you can request a female, if you're a female. |
| 20:24.27 | Katty | does that apply in thailand? |
| 20:24.35 | Chainsaw | Katty: It's mandatory actually. |
| 20:24.41 | bcrisp | you dont have rights there @ katty |
| 20:24.44 | Kobaz | i wonder if anyone could request a female |
| 20:24.46 | Chainsaw | Katty: You don't get to choose. |
| 20:24.50 | Kobaz | i'll take a female |
| 20:24.57 | Katty | Chainsaw: ok. that's good. but does that apply to thailand? |
| 20:25.00 | Chainsaw | Kobaz: Yeah, they're not having that. |
| 20:25.33 | Kobaz | two girls in front of me had yogurt that they just bought at the airport |
| 20:25.45 | Kobaz | and tsa was trying to throw them out since it's over the 2oz limit |
| 20:25.53 | Katty | Chainsaw: i know that in addition, if you're pulled over by a cop, a woman can request a female cop. |
| 20:25.53 | Kobaz | they begged and pleaded, and they let the girls through |
| 20:25.59 | ariel_ | they keep taking my needle nose pliers...argh |
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| 20:26.15 | ariel_ | which is a took kit for pc and says pc tool kit on it. |
| 20:26.22 | Chainsaw | ariel_: Yeah, can't have you deconstructing the plane along the way. |
| 20:26.23 | ariel_ | took/tool |
| 20:26.29 | Katty | ariel_: you might use the toolkit to take over the plane. |
| 20:26.34 | Chainsaw | ariel_: Just put it in the suitcase, not in the carry-on. |
| 20:26.45 | Chainsaw | Just like your knives, shotguns, rocket launchers, etc. |
| 20:26.54 | Kobaz | if you put stuff in a bag, and don't tell tsa about it, they won't bother you |
| 20:26.54 | Katty | don't forget pens. |
| 20:26.56 | beers218 | i hate when they take my rocket launchers :\ |
| 20:26.57 | ariel_ | yes but then I have to pay 20 for the bag |
| 20:27.10 | Katty | ariel_: that's cheaper than new pliers. |
| 20:27.15 | Kobaz | like, they harassed me about my toothpaste, but i had a 16oz bottle of water, and a 160z bottle of camera cleaner in my bag, that i forgot about |
| 20:27.20 | Kobaz | and noone bothered me |
| 20:27.22 | Chainsaw | Katty: I concur, unless they're bad pliers. |
| 20:27.33 | Katty | no one wants bad pliers. |
| 20:27.52 | jblack | what do people with contact lenses do? Don't they need to keep fluid with them? |
| 20:28.02 | Kobaz | contact lens fluid is allowed |
| 20:28.10 | Chainsaw | jblack: Yeah, you don't even have to drink it. |
| 20:28.11 | Katty | is liquid medication allowed? |
| 20:28.13 | ariel_ | well I have now an ebag, nice bag and there is a section by the pull out hand held that they never see. |
| 20:28.13 | Kobaz | yes |
| 20:28.19 | Katty | liquid insulin...etc |
| 20:28.23 | Chainsaw | jblack: Unlike say, baby milk. |
| 20:28.32 | jblack | insulin comes in tiny vials. I'm sure it's no problem |
| 20:28.33 | Katty | i would say they have to allow baby milk. |
| 20:28.41 | Chainsaw | Katty: They do, if you take a sip. |
| 20:28.41 | Kobaz | security theater, ladies and gentlemen |
| 20:28.42 | Katty | especially if it's a mother. |
| 20:28.47 | jblack | they have made mothers drink their own baby milk |
| 20:28.55 | Katty | that wouldn't bother me |
| 20:28.55 | Chainsaw | jblack: Yes they have. I saw it. |
| 20:28.56 | jblack | which makes me gag |
| 20:29.32 | Katty | i see nothing gag-worthy about it. |
| 20:29.44 | Katty | i'd never give a kid something i wouldn't eat. |
| 20:29.50 | Kobaz | heh |
| 20:30.15 | ariel_ | I see no issue with baby's milk, when we traveled with our child I had to drink it a few times.... due to they do not allow it, |
| 20:30.25 | jblack | You would drink your own breast milk? |
| 20:30.41 | Katty | if it was required to take my child's lunch on the plane, yes. |
| 20:30.54 | Kobaz | mmm lunch |
| 20:30.57 | ariel_ | not mine, my wifes, in any case not needed any more as she is now (child) 6 years old |
| 20:31.12 | jblack | what does it taste like? |
| 20:31.19 | ariel_ | milk |
| 20:31.23 | Katty | jblack: i don't have children. i don't know. |
| 20:31.41 | jblack | what kind of milk? Skim? 2%? |
| 20:31.47 | Kobaz | half and half |
| 20:31.55 | Katty | but i can tell you that if i'm afraid to eat something, i would never give it to a child. |
| 20:32.27 | jblack | Katty: uh huh. Sure. |
| 20:32.35 | ariel_ | well, with my child sometimes you had to show them that you would eat it before she would |
| 20:32.57 | jblack | So if you were diabetic, you would deny sugar to your child? If you were allergic to peanut butter, no pb&j for your child? |
| 20:33.15 | ariel_ | well yes |
| 20:33.49 | ariel_ | most kids eat what there parents eats... |
| 20:33.50 | jblack | "sorry kid. I'm diabetic, so you'll be spending your next 18 years on a low carb diet" |
| 20:34.10 | jblack | It's very difficult to keep diabetic children healtily fed. |
| 20:34.11 | ariel_ | so that would be bad due to ? |
| 20:34.33 | jblack | Nutritional defficiencies. |
| 20:34.50 | ariel_ | sugar is not good overall, just feed them natural food |
| 20:35.14 | jblack | You're talking about striking out grains, milks, fruit juices, about 2/3 of the fruit out there, sugar, pastas and breads. starchy veggies like corn and potatos. |
| 20:35.26 | jblack | That's a big punishment to a kid if they're not the ones that are sick. |
| 20:36.01 | ariel_ | no natural stuff is good |
| 20:36.14 | jblack | rephrase, please. |
| 20:36.19 | ariel_ | orange, milk, fruits etc. |
| 20:36.26 | jblack | Not to a diabetic, they're not. |
| 20:36.28 | ariel_ | products that add surgar are bad |
| 20:36.58 | jblack | apples are ok in small amounts and with close attention. oranges and grapes are not. |
| 20:37.03 | ariel_ | jblack: no added process sugar is bad, natural is fine believe me I deal with it for many years |
| 20:37.17 | jblack | I'm a type 2 diabetic on insulin. I know. |
| 20:38.20 | jblack | sugar is sugar is sugar, whether it's sucrose, fructose or lactose. |
| 20:38.26 | ariel_ | I am on the pill and I am able to eat oranges, fruits etc. Just need to overall monitor myself and do walking if it gets high. But nothing major |
| 20:39.05 | jblack | Then you have homework this weekend. Read up on glycemic loads. |
| 20:39.46 | jblack | This is not wacky stuff. This is well established stuff that your diabetic nurse should have spent hours talking to you about. |
| 20:40.06 | ariel_ | I guess yours is not in check. I have no issues. I have been a diabetic for over 12 years now. |
| 20:40.08 | jblack | as contrasted with nutritionists, which generally don't understand the glycemic issues with diabetes very well. |
| 20:40.23 | jblack | I'm severely diabetic. I was hospitalized for it this past summer. |
| 20:40.35 | jblack | Anyways, let's take this back to katty. |
| 20:40.36 | ariel_ | there are different levels |
| 20:40.40 | jblack | There are. |
| 20:41.01 | jblack | My point was that katty is not a mean enough person to deny things to a child only because she can't have it. |
| 20:41.55 | jblack | ambigious she. My point was that katty is not a mean enough person to deny things to a child only because katty can't have it. |
| 20:41.56 | ariel_ | Well in my case it's just easier to keep our overall home diet the same as it creates less of a problem. And it's mainly no added salt or sugar. |
| 20:42.13 | jblack | Yeah. You're very mild. |
| 20:42.48 | jblack | But seriously, you should be restricted on grains, starchy things like potatoes. Talk with your diabetic nurse about glycemic load, or get a book, or something. |
| 20:43.00 | ariel_ | If I do the south beach diet or atkins very low carbs I don't have to take the pill but it's hard keeping in low carbs |
| 20:44.05 | jblack | So you see my point, that what's healthy for you may not be healthy for your children (and vice versa) |
| 20:44.46 | ariel_ | yes but since she has been eating natrual like her parents she is fine. No issue. |
| 20:44.57 | jblack | You're not eating healthy for you, though. |
| 20:45.21 | jblack | which means you'll eventually end up on the shot, just like me. |
| 20:45.25 | jblack | Which is nice. I can use the company |
| 20:45.32 | ariel_ | OK if my diabetic is under control then why would you say that? |
| 20:46.14 | [TK]D-Fender | [15:43]<ariel_>If I do the south beach diet or atkins very low carbs I don't have to take the pill but it's hard keeping in low carbs <- 2 horrible diets that wreak havoc on your system |
| 20:46.26 | jblack | because I think you're eating stuff with incredibly high glycemic loads (like bread), which means you're still beating on your pancreas and liver. |
| 20:46.47 | [TK]D-Fender | subscribes to the "stop eating you fat bastard Diet" |
| 20:46.51 | [TK]D-Fender | GIGO |
| 20:46.55 | [TK]D-Fender | plain and simple. |
| 20:47.18 | [TK]D-Fender | Cut out the crap and the rest balances out |
| 20:47.26 | jblack | [TK]D-Fender: They're generally a problem for normal people, but when insulin resistance starts building up, cutting increasingly less simple carbs is a part of diabetes. |
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| 20:48.04 | [TK]D-Fender | jblack: Yes, well Atkins focuses too much on the fats that it wants to force your body to prefer. HORRIBLE |
| 20:48.26 | jblack | It's not as simple as that. |
| 20:48.27 | [TK]D-Fender | jblack: I'm all for carb reduction, starting with processed sugars, etc |
| 20:48.30 | ChannelZ | heh I just did a bunch of commercials for Atkins |
| 20:48.43 | [TK]D-Fender | jblack: I was on it breifly with my GF at the time. |
| 20:48.47 | [TK]D-Fender | jblack: Been there, done that. |
| 20:49.18 | mbrevda | wait, were discussing WHAT? |
| 20:49.19 | [TK]D-Fender | ok, GTG, BBIAB |
| 20:49.20 | jblack | You're in the right ballpark, but it's not just as simple as 'body to prefer fats' |
| 20:49.40 | ariel_ | goes back to eating his mango Yogurt |
| 20:49.41 | jblack | mbrevda: We started with TSA making women drink breast milk, which made me go "EWWWW" |
| 20:49.47 | [TK]D-Fender | jblack: I read a lot on it. |
| 20:49.55 | jblack | ariel_: You're supposedly diabetic, and you're eating yogurt? |
| 20:49.58 | jblack | lol |
| 20:50.03 | ariel_ | yes |
| 20:50.28 | mbrevda | jackal: would you rather the men do it? |
| 20:50.32 | bcrisp | if you're lactose intolerant and diabetic then i guess its ok |
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| 20:50.59 | ariel_ | I am not lactose intolerant |
| 20:51.04 | jblack | bcrisp: Interesting though. |
| 20:51.44 | jblack | where did people get the silly idea that natural things are healthy? |
| 20:51.53 | bcrisp | woodstock? |
| 20:52.02 | jblack | 40 years later? |
| 20:52.32 | mbrevda | jblack: would you rather the men do it? |
| 20:52.47 | Kobaz | heh |
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| 20:52.52 | jblack | mbrevda: Do what? drink breast milk? No. I think babies should drink breast milk. |
| 20:53.03 | jblack | It's MADE for them. That's why it exists. |
| 20:53.27 | mbrevda | jblack: comon - fresh naturaly milk - directly from the source! |
| 20:53.36 | mbrevda | goes to copuright the t-shirt |
| 20:53.40 | mbrevda | *copyright |
| 20:54.15 | jblack | I have a general, and probably natural, aversion to things that leave the human body |
| 20:54.41 | ChannelZ | milk milk lemonade, around the corner fudge is made! |
| 20:54.48 | ariel_ | nice |
| 20:54.53 | jblack | lol |
| 20:54.55 | mbrevda | lol |
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| 20:55.05 | Chainsaw | ChannelZ: Thanks a lot, now I have that "sweet lemonade" song stuck in my head again. |
| 20:55.40 | jblack | Here you go... you like natural things, ariel_? eat your own boogers. http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/135709/benefits_of_boogereating.html?cat=51 |
| 20:56.42 | Akiraa | http://voiptel-pro.com/iad-ata/ag-188n-1-port-voice-gateway.html -- crap or not? Anyone tried it? |
| 20:56.54 | Kobaz | probably |
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| 20:57.29 | ChannelZ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-fQ32qz4d0 |
| 20:57.31 | jblack | 50 bucks for a FXS & FXO? Yeah. That's probably crap |
| 20:57.50 | ariel_ | looks like a atcom unit, there ok I guess but, I have not used that one. |
| 20:57.53 | Akiraa | that's an interesting metric |
| 20:59.39 | jblack | Not really. |
| 21:00.08 | Chainsaw | ChannelZ: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meGz40QW7GQ |
| 21:00.31 | jblack | First off, people do things to make money (who's in business to spend?), so subtract out a profit. That equipment had to shipped around to a warehouse somewhere, waiting for you to buy it, so subtract money for storage and shipping. |
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| 21:01.16 | jblack | Then, bear in mind that they had to actually assemble the thing, which takes.. people and money. And it was assmbled from components that they had to buy, which costs money, including having the parts shipped so they could assemble them. |
| 21:01.39 | jblack | Add all that together, and $50 spreads thin. Somewhere, corners had to be cut |
| 21:01.45 | ariel_ | Nice just got fedex email that my 80 phones have been delivered for my setup on the ship for Monday.....San Diego here I come... |
| 21:02.16 | jblack | 80 phones... What are you working on, a cruiser? |
| 21:02.30 | Chainsaw | An outbound callcenter? |
| 21:02.33 | ariel_ | No a Cruise ship |
| 21:02.39 | bcrisp | a roaming call center? |
| 21:03.00 | ariel_ | no setting up 80 phones Polycom 8020 wireless for the crew. |
| 21:03.03 | jblack | did you convince them you'll have to test the phones during a live scenario? |
| 21:03.39 | ariel_ | no do this setup all the time, we have many ships with our phones and voiceXchange setup. |
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| 21:04.17 | jblack | no free boat ride, I guess |
| 21:04.34 | ChannelZ | not unless you're the barnacle |
| 21:04.54 | ariel_ | I have been on trips to Alaska, Vancover, Spain and many others... |
| 21:09.52 | Corydon76-dig | Okay, Johnny Cash |
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| 21:11.15 | blepsoaf | I know this is a broad question, but does it make sense to use dundi and opensips together in a cluster environment if opensips is the registraton server? trying to piece together a clustering solution and if it makes sense to use one or the other or both |
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| 21:13.39 | Akiraa | not a cruise ship, a space ship : |
| 21:13.41 | Akiraa | :p |
| 21:14.06 | Akiraa | may be problematic with the lightspeed lag :) |
| 21:17.10 | Katty | returns |
| 21:18.33 | Katty | hai :> |
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| 21:20.40 | jblack | hi |
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| 21:23.28 | Katty | i hope 2ft of snow drops here tomorrow |
| 21:24.17 | Kobaz | heh |
| 21:25.03 | jaytee | wishes that any snow he'd get would fall on Katty's area instead |
| 21:25.29 | jaytee | also wishes that any other snow heading for other areas falls on the island of Belize instead. |
| 21:25.50 | ariel_ | wow, I have not seen snow in years... |
| 21:26.08 | jaytee | SoCal? |
| 21:26.16 | ariel_ | no warmer |
| 21:26.25 | jaytee | mexico? |
| 21:26.36 | ariel_ | no in the US |
| 21:26.43 | jaytee | AZ |
| 21:27.04 | eppigy | I wish it would snow here |
| 21:27.05 | ariel_ | LOL, South Florida |
| 21:27.22 | eppigy | i used to live in tampa |
| 21:27.41 | ariel_ | Tampa is like a 5 hour drive |
| 21:27.51 | eppigy | ur face is |
| 21:27.57 | KaneHau | I'm further south than you and it's snowing here |
| 21:28.50 | ariel_ | There is nothing higher then 11 feet above sea level here, so don't think it will snow any time soon.... |
| 21:29.01 | KaneHau | I'm at sea level |
| 21:29.19 | KaneHau | no snow, but 45 minutes drive away is 13,500 ft, much snow |
| 21:29.25 | ariel_ | Well then your way south of the equator |
| 21:29.29 | KaneHau | we can snorkle in tropical water and then drive and snow board |
| 21:29.34 | KaneHau | no, north of the equater |
| 21:29.48 | eppigy | IT IS A MYSTERY |
| 21:29.54 | KaneHau | it's even a US state |
| 21:30.17 | ariel_ | He is in those Island in the Pacific, which have hills/mountains. |
| 21:30.19 | eppigy | PUERTO RICO? |
| 21:30.25 | ariel_ | they start with Ha... |
| 21:30.34 | KaneHau | ariel is getting the idea |
| 21:30.37 | KaneHau | aloha :) |
| 21:30.45 | KaneHau | puerto rico isn't a us state |
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| 21:31.09 | *** join/#asterisk vty (n=arlf@174.120.203.106) |
| 21:31.21 | vty | Anyone familiar with programming SPA 84x/94x? |
| 21:32.36 | vty | I added a second extension to a lot of phones, and ever since that, the transfer button no longer works |
| 21:32.48 | vty | Kind of confused on what happened, they were all reset to factory defaults before adding it |
| 21:33.15 | TSM | ahhh noooo, booohooo |
| 21:33.25 | TSM | did you change somthing |
| 21:33.40 | vty | ? |
| 21:33.45 | vty | I was pretty descriptive |
| 21:34.22 | vty | I'll go ahead and ignore you, you sound like a troll. |
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| 21:36.03 | bmoraca | wow, microsofts VLSC site is a steaming pile of crap. as poorly done as eOpen was, VLSC is way worse |
| 21:36.23 | ariel_ | vty those phones only have 2 lines, it uses the 2nd line to put the call on hold to do the transfer |
| 21:36.25 | KaneHau | who would have guessed |
| 21:36.28 | vty | Yeah, they recently changed the VLSC site. It was actually down for about a day |
| 21:36.50 | vty | ariel_, you're a genius. So I'll go through and run the new firmware update on the ones that I can to push 4 lines |
| 21:37.08 | vty | I hadn't even thought about that, I thought it was a button issue |
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| 21:40.12 | bpgoldsb | I'm compiling Asterisk from source. Is there a way to tell it not to build a module with ./configure ? |
| 21:40.26 | ariel_ | menuselect |
| 21:40.59 | bpgoldsb | I need to do it more automated. I'm packaging it as a .deb |
| 21:41.00 | KaneHau | learned the hard way that if you don't exit menuselect using 'x', it is all for naught |
| 21:41.03 | bmoraca | bpgoldsb, when you do your "make menuselect", you can select which modules to build or not build. ./configure tells "make menuselect" which modules you have prereqs for |
| 21:41.21 | bpgoldsb | Then where does menuselect output to? |
| 21:41.37 | bmoraca | bpgoldsb, it writes a file that "make" uses to determine what to build. you should be able to find it |
| 21:41.50 | bmoraca | or, you can simply create your own make file including only the files you want |
| 21:41.55 | bmoraca | "simply" |
| 21:41.56 | bmoraca | :P |
| 21:42.03 | bpgoldsb | Yes, 'simply' |
| 21:42.19 | bpgoldsb | The actual problem is chan_agent isn't compiling, but I also don't have the time to fix it atm |
| 21:42.35 | bmoraca | well, that's a different issue |
| 21:43.03 | bpgoldsb | It is, but I don't need it, so disabling it will be a sufficient means |
| 21:45.44 | Deeewayne | Katty, I'm enjoying your squirrels |
| 21:46.34 | Katty | they doing anything fun? |
| 21:47.09 | Deeewayne | one is sticking his nose into the nuts |
| 21:47.24 | Deeewayne | or corn ... whatever that is |
| 21:47.50 | Corydon76-dig | I have a dog that does that |
| 21:48.08 | Deeewayne | I knew that comment was a setup :-) |
| 21:49.05 | Corydon76-dig | The others might, too, but they aren't big enough. |
| 21:49.05 | Katty | corn, sunflower seeds, and nuts |
| 21:49.41 | Deeewayne | Corydon76-dig, it might be a little dangerous for the rabbit to do that |
| 21:52.08 | bpgoldsb | It appears, judging my a spam of 'undefined reference' when compiling chan_agent.o, it isn't loading it's headers properly |
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| 21:53.53 | Katty | Deeewayne: they rummage around in there digging out their favorite bits first. the corn is always the last to be eaten. |
| 21:55.18 | Deeewayne | Katty, diving off the lighthouse feeder looks fun |
| 21:56.46 | Katty | you know it's funny you say that |
| 21:56.47 | *** join/#asterisk ManxPower-work (n=EWieling@216.186.151.147) |
| 21:57.06 | Katty | a couple days ago the bbq grill (barely visible on the right side) was completely knocked off the porch |
| 21:57.06 | jblack | Yeha, how is that feeder stuff going |
| 21:57.28 | Katty | Deeewayne: i don't know how the entire bbq grill got knocked off the porch. |
| 21:57.33 | Katty | Deeewayne: it's /heavy/ |
| 21:57.45 | Katty | Deeewayne: and something tells me ryan didn't go topple it over in a fit of rage. |
| 21:57.47 | jblack | did you have heavy winds? |
| 21:57.53 | jblack | maybe it rolled? |
| 21:57.59 | Katty | that would be the most plausible explination. |
| 21:58.12 | Deeewayne | maybe giant squirrels! |
| 21:58.18 | Katty | i don't think a pack of squirrels decided to cart it off |
| 21:58.38 | Katty | they can't even get along nicely on the feeders, much less group together for a common cause of carting off a bbq grill. |
| 21:59.09 | ChannelZ | I dunno, I saw Over The Hedge and they were all pretty crafty.. |
| 21:59.59 | jblack | maybe you're infested with evolved squirrels |
| 22:00.51 | Katty | yeah, maybe they can figure out how to mow the lawn for me too this spring |
| 22:01.30 | jblack | nah. squirrels wouldn't like short lawns. They would be more likely to sabotage your mower |
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| 22:02.13 | Katty | for all i know, they're stashing walnuts in it |
| 22:02.41 | jblack | my bet is that your squirrels have developed a taste in roasted nuts |
| 22:02.57 | jblack | so they tried to steal the grill. But they couldn't, because it was too heavy. |
| 22:03.16 | Katty | well i wouldn't mind if they roasted them right on the porch |
| 22:03.21 | Katty | in fact, i'll bring out a few burgers while they're at it |
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| 22:03.29 | jblack | Did you explain that to them in a way they'd understand? |
| 22:03.52 | Katty | i suppose not. |
| 22:03.53 | timholum | Has anyone ever gotten skype for sip to work? I have been working on this for 6 hours today with no luck :( |
| 22:05.05 | Katty | yes probably. |
| 22:05.07 | timholum | I think I am having an issue with my config's but I can figure it out at all |
| 22:07.59 | bcrisp | im looking at teliax and it mentions a rate for "internal outbound minutes" what does that mean? |
| 22:09.00 | ChannelZ | timholum: I am running skype-for-asterisk |
| 22:09.27 | ChannelZ | timholum: what isn't working |
| 22:12.19 | bcrisp | ChannelZ, were you saying you've used LES.net as a sip provider? |
| 22:13.03 | jblack | shudders. |
| 22:13.09 | bcrisp | jblack? |
| 22:13.39 | jblack | Well, tk likes 'em, but I had to do a chargeback because they claimed they never got the money. |
| 22:13.54 | ChannelZ | bcrisp: not me |
| 22:13.59 | bcrisp | hm |
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| 22:15.15 | MikeJ | anyone around have a cisco/linksys 501 laying around that could provide assistance real quick |
| 22:15.36 | MikeJ | I don't have access to one currently and need some details of what they request when they try to provision |
| 22:19.19 | bcrisp | LES.net sales # goes to voicemail: FAIL |
| 22:19.48 | Katty | Deeewayne: awwww |
| 22:19.56 | Katty | Deeewayne: mister squirrely's in a good spot. |
| 22:20.15 | Katty | and now he's gone :< |
| 22:20.31 | Deeewayne | he's been very busy |
| 22:20.54 | Katty | i imagine so. the tray looks half empty. |
| 22:21.18 | Deeewayne | I was in NJ last week, watching some squirrels and thinking about the critter cam |
| 22:21.33 | Katty | (= |
| 22:21.59 | hardwire | hah |
| 22:23.19 | timholum | ChannelZ, It is not allowing me to dial out |
| 22:24.07 | timholum | ChannelZ: http://asterisk.software.couleetechlink.com/phone/ is my config's and some debuging stuff |
| 22:24.19 | ManxPower-work | Does anyone have had experience with setting up a Polycom phone to have a different dialtone AND a different dialtone after 9 is pressed. |
| 22:24.31 | Katty | i don't think that tray is ever unoccuppied. if the squirrels aren't up there, the birds are. |
| 22:24.47 | ManxPower-work | I'm working with the sip.cfg and not having much success. |
| 22:24.48 | Katty | tonight feels like theater night |
| 22:25.43 | bcrisp | dont see avatar |
| 22:26.03 | Katty | i've already seen avatar |
| 22:26.06 | Katty | and it was quite lovely. |
| 22:26.12 | bcrisp | i walked out |
| 22:26.14 | Katty | ryan agrees on movie night... Sherlock Holmes it is |
| 22:26.35 | Corydon76-dig | bcrisp: what was wrong with it? |
| 22:27.18 | bcrisp | ripoff of dances with wolves |
| 22:27.39 | Katty | heh |
| 22:27.40 | bcrisp | plus msc. cheeze |
| 22:27.41 | MikeJ | Sherlock Holmes was good |
| 22:27.41 | Katty | well i loved it. |
| 22:27.56 | timholum | I am pulling ChannelZ: any ideas? |
| 22:27.56 | Katty | MikeJ: well don't ruin it |
| 22:28.02 | Katty | MikeJ: :P |
| 22:28.07 | bcrisp | ya i want to see sherlock |
| 22:28.07 | MikeJ | no no.. just satying I enjoyed it |
| 22:28.13 | Katty | k |
| 22:32.36 | bcrisp | LES.net's payment setup is nuckn futs |
| 22:33.09 | Katty | hmm. i gotta figure something out for dinner |
| 22:33.11 | MikeJ | Katty: how bout I spoil it ofr you |
| 22:33.14 | MikeJ | in the end.. |
| 22:33.16 | jblack | katty: McDonald's. |
| 22:33.18 | Katty | detaches |
| 22:33.19 | ChannelZ | sorry talking sec |
| 22:33.21 | MikeJ | Sherlock figures it all out :D |
| 22:34.16 | Katty | jblack: why? do you want me to be sick? :< |
| 22:34.16 | Katty | jblack: i love you too :< |
| 22:34.16 | jblack | I like mcdonalds! |
| 22:34.17 | phix | Katty!!!!1111 |
| 22:34.17 | phix | Buddy |
| 22:34.17 | jblack | How about burger king? wendy's? taco bell (ok, this one has made me sick) |
| 22:34.17 | Katty | uhmmm, hi |
| 22:34.25 | *** join/#asterisk m0e (n=eX@196.205.120.69) |
| 22:34.29 | jblack | Oh, look, a long lost friend. |
| 22:34.36 | Katty | looks like it, anyway |
| 22:34.38 | phix | That is me |
| 22:34.39 | phix | :) |
| 22:34.39 | phix | haha |
| 22:34.46 | phix | hey jblack. I know you too |
| 22:34.47 | jblack | From australia |
| 22:34.57 | phix | whois never lies jblack :) |
| 22:35.00 | Katty | phix: you know me from australia?! |
| 22:35.21 | jblack | I'm more blunt. I don't remember you |
| 22:35.31 | phix | Katty: no, I am from Australia, I know you from #asterisk |
| 22:35.32 | bcrisp | cheesy gordita crunch |
| 22:35.33 | Katty | you don't remember a lot of things |
| 22:35.36 | MikeJ | whois sure can lie |
| 22:35.42 | jblack | That's a valid point |
| 22:35.44 | phix | MikeJ: :P |
| 22:35.46 | Katty | i probably remember even less. |
| 22:35.57 | Katty | so if phix says he knows me, he probably does. |
| 22:35.59 | m0e | quick question.. if i want to use authenticate with password=0000 and for it to jump to priority= n+100 if it fails.. is it authenticate(0000,j100) ? |
| 22:36.10 | jblack | but how much does anyone really know anyone else? |
| 22:36.13 | m0e | with a capital A that is |
| 22:36.14 | *** join/#asterisk nny (n=scott@64.203.239.83) |
| 22:36.17 | MikeJ | I assure you it does not tell you my real ip addy |
| 22:36.20 | Katty | m0e: i just use it as the next line |
| 22:36.20 | KaneHau | I am using AMI Action: Originate... and I am issuing a "Channel: DAHDI/g0/5551212" - and I see this on the CLI log "Unable to request channel DAHDI/g1/5551212" |
| 22:36.20 | KaneHau | any ideas? |
| 22:36.20 | KaneHau | er, the 'g1' is 'g0' in the message, sorry |
| 22:36.20 | KaneHau | cut and pasted the wrong line |
| 22:36.35 | jblack | MikeJ: And.. ? |
| 22:36.39 | nny | does queues.conf recognize & (i.e. call two channels at once) |
| 22:36.49 | MikeJ | jblack: it lies, just making my point :D |
| 22:36.53 | m0e | Thanks Katty, but I need this to jump :P |
| 22:36.58 | jblack | No. Tools don't lie. People lie. |
| 22:37.12 | MikeJ | in this case.. its the tool |
| 22:37.25 | Deeewayne | whois'es MikeJ |
| 22:37.33 | jblack | and with rare exception, only humans lie. |
| 22:37.38 | MikeJ | heya Deeewayne .. long time no see |
| 22:37.42 | Katty | my dog lies. |
| 22:37.44 | bcrisp | liar birds lies |
| 22:37.45 | Katty | he lies so much |
| 22:37.49 | Deeewayne | MikeJ, yeah.... very busy lately |
| 22:37.55 | MikeJ | in this case, humans told it too |
| 22:38.01 | Katty | i ask him if he has to go, and he gets all bouncy and excited |
| 22:38.09 | Katty | then he goes outside and visit the neighbor dogs. |
| 22:38.19 | Katty | from over the fence. |
| 22:38.28 | m0e | hmm.. not sure if my syntax for the "options" is correct |
| 22:38.53 | jblack | simple truth, though, if you're the sort that feels a nice to hide behind proxies for visiting irc, then you're probably not someone I care to know (and don't, since you self-admittedly hide your own identity) |
| 22:38.54 | Deeewayne | Katty, my dog gets bouncy when I say 'peeps and poops' |
| 22:39.02 | m0e | hrm.. i think i misread this.. |
| 22:39.12 | jblack | so that's two lies. First you hid your location, then you wrongly stated that I know you. |
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| 22:39.49 | nny | hmm my question may have been parsed poorly. I am setting up some queues here at the office, have member => SIP/EXT (x2) in my queues.conf. Say I wanted asterisk to call my cellphone & SIP/EXT at the same time... |
| 22:40.11 | nny | normally that would be SIP/EXT&CHAN/NUMBER |
| 22:40.15 | jblack | nny: normaly, outside of queues, you do a Dial(number1&number2) |
| 22:40.20 | nny | aye |
| 22:40.35 | ManxPower-work | nny: is the call to your cellphone going out on POTS? |
| 22:40.50 | nny | ManxPower-work: actually it's using SIP |
| 22:41.06 | bcrisp | call forking? |
| 22:41.18 | nny | so it would be SIP/EXT&SIP/NUMBER@SIPPEER |
| 22:41.22 | bcrisp | you can use FindMe |
| 22:41.26 | nny | hmm |
| 22:41.32 | nny | i should look into that |
| 22:41.38 | Katty | well i'm going to leave a little early. apparently there's been an accident blocking the main road on the way home, so now i have to drive through downtown >.< |
| 22:41.38 | nny | always kinda hacked in the duality thiing |
| 22:41.39 | bcrisp | i read a post about using findme to fork calls |
| 22:41.49 | Katty | and that is going to be an absolute MESS come 5 |
| 22:41.51 | Katty | bye! |
| 22:41.56 | bcrisp | careful |
| 22:41.58 | jblack | does walmart have reasonably priced blank dvds? |
| 22:42.04 | jblack | or for that matter, best buy? |
| 22:42.08 | bcrisp | ya |
| 22:42.11 | bcrisp | that stuff is cheap now |
| 22:42.19 | jblack | thanks |
| 22:42.20 | nny | i see that you can set macros to a member, wonder if I can craft a macro with the findme/insert method for calling both here, and then just call the macro from queues.conf |
| 22:42.47 | bcrisp | nny macros are depricated |
| 22:42.53 | nny | i currently just have this silly way of doing it, but would like to change it to support agents |
| 22:42.56 | nny | bcrisp: aye |
| 22:43.08 | nny | bcrisp: not sure if I could call a Goto from queues.conf though |
| 22:43.12 | bcrisp | what are you aiming to do? |
| 22:43.44 | bcrisp | use a ringall strategy maybe |
| 22:43.48 | bcrisp | or use local channel |
| 22:43.55 | nny | the other thing I noticed is that timeout says it's X amount of time till it jumps to n in the dialplan, there is also timeout=XXX in queues.conf, but this just jumps to the next member after? |
| 22:43.59 | bcrisp | i.e. member=>Local/Something |
| 22:44.01 | nny | well |
| 22:44.10 | nny | it'd have to be a combo setup heh |
| 22:44.25 | ChannelZ | timholum: sorry had to do an impromtu meeting |
| 22:44.48 | nny | basically call 2 "devices" (or rather a cell and the deskphone) and then go to a third number (google voice) for voicemail |
| 22:44.51 | ChannelZ | timholum: so it looks like you're using Skype for SIP, not Skype-for-Asterisk yes? |
| 22:45.00 | bcrisp | nny.. ringall strategy? |
| 22:45.02 | nny | bcrisp: this all works now, minus the agents.conf part |
| 22:45.23 | timholum | correct |
| 22:45.43 | nny | bcrisp: i would think so, except there are multiple members. My deskphone/cellphone voicemail, my business partner's etc etc |
| 22:45.55 | bcrisp | yeah.. ringall rings them all at the same time |
| 22:46.44 | ChannelZ | timholum: ahh well sorry then I can't help you with that one, no experience with that. I'm using the SFA channel driver |
| 22:46.50 | nny | bcrisp: http://pastebin.com/m7d375f60 is what I do now |
| 22:47.00 | nny | bcrisp: don't laugh, I need to update without the macros |
| 22:47.09 | ChannelZ | My guess is your dialstring is wrong based on what they want |
| 22:47.39 | jblack | wow. Russia tried to stop snow from hitting moscow |
| 22:47.46 | bcrisp | nny, i dont see a call to Queue() |
| 22:47.52 | nny | bcrisp: was gonna do it "right" with the tools asterisk has natively (queues.conf, etc) but i think |
| 22:48.01 | nny | bcrisp: no that's the old way |
| 22:48.09 | nny | bcrisp: i am looking into using queues instead |
| 22:48.12 | bcrisp | Queue() is the old way? |
| 22:48.31 | nny | ugh i suck at conveying info tonight, what I pastebin'd is the "old way" |
| 22:48.46 | nny | there is no real Queue way yet, not sure if I can duplicate it with Queue |
| 22:49.10 | bcrisp | uses queues.conf |
| 22:49.19 | nny | the voicemail part would be a non issue if tmobile didn't prevent certain accounts from forwarding to voicemail |
| 22:49.31 | nny | bcrisp: aye |
| 22:49.58 | bcrisp | nny: in queues.conf, instead of member=>SIP/user or something, if you have more complex logic use Local/something |
| 22:50.16 | nny | bcrisp: ahh |
| 22:50.19 | nny | bcrisp: roger |
| 22:50.25 | bcrisp | it'd be easier to discuss if you would say what exactly the behavior you're trying to achieve is |
| 22:51.01 | bcrisp | also a queue macro can be specified in queues.conf when connected with an agent |
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| 22:53.12 | bcrisp | i like your loadbalancing logic hehe |
| 22:53.17 | rbd_ | hey guys.... I have two asterisk 1.4.x boxes. normally, SIP calls from one will be transferred to the other at some point (via Dial() )....I'm trying to get things now so that I can combine these two boxes. Unfortunately, it appears that if I try to use Dial to the same IP, the box will run it on the Local channel, not on a loopback SIP channel...anyway to force SIP? (I use SIPHeaders in my macros and this is breaking) |
| 22:53.21 | rbd_ | see http://pastebin.com/d502d6441 |
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| 22:55.13 | vty | Can you set Sipura 841s to have 4 lines like the later SPA-941s? Or are they always stuck at 2 |
| 22:55.19 | nny | bcrisp: heh thanks. Yeah I am just smoothing out how it works and trying to make it less "hacky". The Local thing solved my question though, forgot all about how to call the psuedo local channel ha |
| 22:55.48 | nny | now to remove those macros and play with find me |
| 22:56.44 | bcrisp | not sure if you need it |
| 22:57.00 | bcrisp | unless each member has multiple #s which i think maybe is what you meant |
| 22:57.40 | bcrisp | or.. you could just set each one up as a separate member |
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| 23:04.30 | ChannelZ | bcrisp: hehe - blog post title: "After 12 years, James Cameron Brings Us Dances With Smurfs?" |
| 23:07.33 | bmoraca | rbd_, why do you need to dial yourself? why not dial the peer directly? |
| 23:08.42 | bcrisp | ChannelZ, lol |
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| 23:17.10 | rbd_ | bmoraca, this is a two part process....an incoming call router gets a call, then routes the call to a specific call handling box to handle it.... I am trying a setup where these two are on the same box, so essentially the box is routing the call to itself (this may seem unnecessary, but I want to keep the functionality as similar as possible to the two box method) |
| 23:17.37 | bmoraca | that is entirely unneccesary |
| 23:17.39 | rbd_ | it seems that asterisk will auto forward a dialed SIP call on the Local channel if the target is itself.... |
| 23:17.55 | bmoraca | as it should. local channels use less resources |
| 23:18.53 | rbd_ | well, is there any way to force it to not do this? |
| 23:19.06 | rbd_ | I'd like to keep it chan SIP all the way through |
| 23:20.51 | bmoraca | i still don't understand why you cannot simply dial the sip peer directly. |
| 23:21.41 | voipmonk | what? |
| 23:23.06 | rbd_ | bmoraca, because the exact sip peer is not known beforehand. the call will be taken in on the initial routing box and then forwared off a handling box that can handle it (enough resources, etc) .... we have a system implemented where we span meetme conferences across boxes, and so a specific conference (which is associated to a specific DID) could only be hosted on a certain one or two call handling servers, so it is all dynamic |
| 23:23.36 | rbd_ | this setup has opensips (openser) in it as well... I'm trying to keep it simplified down some, as openser is working properly here it appears |
| 23:24.30 | rbd_ | it looks like this functionality (transfer to local channels) is the fix to handle SIP spirals properly: https://issues.asterisk.org/view.php?id=13630 ??? |
| 23:25.40 | bmoraca | rbd_, it sounds like you've got some fairly serious design flaws, imo. i can't see any good reason to do what you're trying to do. |
| 23:26.33 | rbd_ | what would you do instead? |
| 23:27.16 | voipmonk | why is the peer unknowned ? |
| 23:27.21 | voipmonk | oh my god |
| 23:27.24 | voipmonk | why is the peer unknown |
| 23:27.27 | voipmonk | ? |
| 23:27.37 | bmoraca | route the call directly to whatever destination it needed. if it's to be dynamic, I'm assuming the database is shared and you can look up the peer location (dundi, perhaps?). |
| 23:28.21 | voipmonk | u can use dundi but its not necessary u can use mysql |
| 23:28.51 | bmoraca | it depends. dundi might be the appropriate way. or he can develop a custom method using mysql or even astdb |
| 23:29.00 | rbd_ | I'm just getting calls in via a SIP trunk..... a call comes in for 412 111-2222 for instance. the associated conference for that could be located on one of a number of backend asterisk servers |
| 23:30.02 | bmoraca | rbd_, that's fine. i understand what you're trying to do. just do a database lookup of where it needs to go, and if it needs to go local, send it local. it's just another if branch...func_odbc would be very useful in this |
| 23:31.27 | rbd_ | so is this what the originating peer would do? (what if this peer is just a dumb SIP trunk? wouldn't it have to hit an intermediate point to properly route the call?) |
| 23:31.56 | voipmonk | you can grab info from the sip header if necessary and do something based on the match in mysql |
| 23:32.22 | voipmonk | since you inferred u cant make a sip peer for the sip trunk coming in |
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| 23:34.23 | rbd_ | voipmonk: that's what I'm doing now (the initial sip proxy call server will check out the sip headers and from those route the call to an appropirate asterisk server) |
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| 23:52.50 | citywok | rbd_: how many conccurent calls are you handling? |
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| 23:55.19 | rbd_ | citywok, the system is still underdevelopment, but the goal is to be able to handle single conferences of over 1000+ ...right now we can loadbalance in that many people across multiple servers and it works fine (we bridge the conferences via a single SIP channel between the servers) |
| 23:56.03 | citywok | i'm assuming you mute 95% of the people in there |
| 23:56.11 | rbd_ | yup |
| 23:56.20 | citywok | so i'd assume there is a more efficient way of handling it via a stream |
| 23:56.34 | citywok | otherwise meetme is going to be trying to do echo cancellation like crazy |
| 23:57.07 | Micc__ | is there any way to add a hint that is a dynamic variable or something instead of a device? I want to use BLF to show status of options. |
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| 23:57.29 | rbd_ | citywok, does it even do that on muted participants? |
| 23:57.54 | citywok | one could only hope not |
| 23:58.00 | citywok | have you tested load w/ 1000 on a single box? |
| 23:58.08 | citywok | a decently sized box shold be able to do 1000 concurrent calls |
| 23:58.23 | citywok | especially if there is no transcoding going on |
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