IRC log for #asterisk on 20091207

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19:30.51*** topic/#asterisk is Asterisk: The Open Source PBX and Telephony Platform (asterisk.org) -=- Asterisk 1.6.1.11 (2009/11/30), 1.6.0.19 (2009/11/30), 1.4.27.1 (2009/11/30), *-Addons 1.6.1.2 (2009/12/02), 1.6.0.4 (2009/12/02), 1.4.10 (2009/12/02), dahdi-linux 2.2.0.2 (2009/07/23), dahdi-tools 2.2.0 (2009/06/24), Libpri 1.4.10.1 (2009/07/02) -=- Related channels: #asterisknow #switchvox #asterisk-bugs
19:32.43[TK]D-FenderTimRiker: ... "infobot" :)
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19:34.53TimRiker~uptime
19:35.36TimRikerwhen did the bot leave? it should have reconnected, but obviously didn't
19:35.40TimRiker~1+1
19:35.41infobotfrom memory, 1+1 is 3 for large values of 1
19:38.20QwellTimRiker: exactly 24 hours ago
19:38.26Qwell+/- 10 minutes
19:39.03TimRikerhmm. dsl line did a reset then. checking logs...
19:40.11haryvwh ttg
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19:41.45[TK]D-FenderTimRiker: <3
19:42.39TimRikerwell, sorry for the outage. no entry in the log, and the bot _thought_ he was here. :) bugs
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19:42.58[TK]D-FenderTimRiker: "Features" ;)
19:43.01TimRiker~botsnack
19:43.01infobotthanks, TimRiker
19:43.10TimRiker:)
19:43.18errris requirecalltoken=no something I could add to a global iax file so that all iax extensions would use that?
19:43.37[TK]D-Fender~areyouadog ?
19:43.38infobotBark! Bark!
19:43.41[TK]D-Fender~botsnack
19:43.41infobot:), [TK]D-Fender
19:43.46[TK]D-Fenderinfobot: Good boy!
19:43.46infobot[TK]D-Fender: :)
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19:49.59kevmHow can I open a bug that was closed?
19:50.08kevmhttps://issues.asterisk.org/view.php?id=13005#bugnotes
19:50.31jaytee~botsnack
19:50.31infobotjaytee: aw, gee
19:50.38russellbkevm: hop in #asterisk-bugs
19:51.23jayteegonna have a fat infobot pretty soon :-)
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19:52.10ManxPower-workCartmanBot?
19:52.35beekGood afternoon everyone.
19:53.48TimRiker[TK]D-Fender, thx for the email. :)
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19:54.40[TK]D-FenderTimRiker: thx for the ultra-speedy response :)
19:54.50TimRiker:)
19:55.17nitrus^anyone have a tip for diagnosing failed incoming calls?  by box keeps sending back a 403
19:55.39TimRikeranyone here working on android on a phone? ie: an android port etc?
19:55.46bcrispim playing around with AMI .. able to authenticate and request info i.e. queue status, which works but am getting a lot of extra info about other things that i'm not interested in. What can i do?
19:55.55TimRikermeaning asterisk actually running on the phone
19:56.44nitrus^i get to the point where it says "no ... found in SIP users list" found peer
19:57.05TimRikerah well. better head into the office. :)
19:57.24bcrisprunning asterisk on an android phone - hmm why
19:57.55[TK]D-Fenderbcrisp: intelligent filtering, alternative routing, single-handset, multiple tech, etc
19:58.09[TK]D-Fenderbcrisp: On-handset recording, TONS of reasons
19:58.18bcrispcool, just curious
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19:58.38[TK]D-Fenderbcrisp: They had it running on OpenMoko once upon a time.
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19:58.51bcrispgoogles OpenMoko
19:59.22elliot98gives a high long alien wave to the fellow asterisk members
19:59.27[TK]D-Fenderbcrisp: Defunct <-
19:59.49elliot98what kind of applications are out there for testing the quality of a voip line
20:00.01bcrispah
20:00.04ManxPower-workelliot98: the RTP related channel variables
20:00.18elliot98there is a remote customer who's having quality issues
20:00.23ManxPower-workWe,, QOS ones at least.
20:00.49elliot98RTP channel variables..?
20:01.22ManxPower-workelliot98: have you looked in /path/to/asterisk/doc ?
20:01.46ManxPower-work'cause that's where the official documentation lives.
20:02.59elliot98I studied RTP before, but to track quality, I would need to basically track the rate of packets, packet loss, etc.
20:03.18elliot98I am trying to find RTP QOS variables
20:03.35bcrispOk, im going to refine my question. If i open an AMI session with *, how do i filter out manager events so that i only receive responses to actions that i submit?
20:03.53Kobazbcrisp: there really isn't any filtering except on a very broad level
20:04.02bcrispok, so i just look for certain patterns to ignore?
20:04.11bcrispor turn off manager events?
20:04.33Kobazbcrisp: if you turn off all manager events, then you won't get any information about new channels created as a result of your command (and etc)
20:04.44Kobazbcrisp: you'll get the response to your command, but nothing else... you wont be able to track anything
20:04.46bcrispgot it
20:05.10Kobazwhich is one of the fundemental problems with ami events
20:05.10bcrispmy goal is to use AMI to gather information about users and queues, present it visually, and be able to monitor calls
20:05.32Kobazyou can get around it by setting channel variables and using action ids
20:05.43Kobazbut it's still a nightmare to track everything correctly
20:06.01bcrispok so if i submit action IDs that can be unique to each request right? (echoed in the response?)
20:06.09elliot98is there any way to lessen the verbosity when starting the asterisk?
20:06.13Kobazif you have a very very specific setup, and use userevents as much as possible, it will ease the pain
20:06.25elliot98if it's up to verbosity 30, how do I get it back to 3?
20:06.31Kobazcore set verbosity 3
20:06.38elliot98thanks!
20:06.46Kobazbcrisp: yeah it will get echoed in the response
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20:06.53Kobazbcrisp: ...most of the time
20:06.56bcrispKobaz well that should really help
20:07.06Kobazbcrisp: there are some commands that dont support actionids
20:07.13bcrispdoes the action Id have to be numeric?
20:07.16Kobazi forget which ones... we had to fix the source for those
20:07.16QwellKobaz: If you're aware of any place where it isn't in the response, it's likely a bug
20:07.21Kobaznope, it can be anything
20:07.23Qwellso, please report those...
20:07.26bcrispwonderful
20:07.27KobazQwell: k
20:08.29Kobazbcrisp: well. it can be almost anything... don't use /r or /n in your action ids
20:08.50Qwell/r and /n are fine
20:08.54Qwell\r and \n are not..
20:09.03Kobazer
20:09.05Kobazyeah
20:10.11bcrispi was thinking of a unique identifier or something
20:10.27bcrispbut im not seeing actionid in the response for queues ..
20:11.52bcrispill keep diggin
20:12.37DrVinceWhoa... it's hard to get used to the delay
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20:13.41DrVinceI'm not too sure about GSM
20:16.31cuscohi...
20:17.02cuscoin a ael, can I define: if ("bla" != "ble") ?
20:17.11cusco(the not equal, is it like that?)
20:17.25cuscoor would it be !==
20:17.29Kobaz!=
20:17.33cuscook thanks
20:17.34Kobaz!== is a phpism
20:17.42cuscocool
20:17.58Kobaz!== in php means (really, I mean it, is it not equal)
20:18.17cuscook
20:18.28bcrispi ran an ami manager session and am seeing a bunch of VarSet events but thats it.. are there other events i should be seeing in order to keep track of callers / queues?
20:18.52Kobazversus != in php... which means... do some magic conversions of types, and the strings might actually be equal, but return otherwise
20:18.55Kobazwhich is damned retarted
20:19.21bcrispdoes !== mean not equal to type and value?
20:19.26Kobazbcrisp: make sure you have the apropriate permissions in manager.conf
20:19.34Kobazbcrisp: yeah
20:20.02bcrispheading to manager.conf, thanks
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20:20.34Kobazread=system,call,log,verbose,agent,user,config,command,dtmf,reporting,cdr,dialplan,originate
20:20.37Kobazwrite=system,call,log,verbose,agent,user,config,command,dtmf,reporting,cdr,dialplan,originate
20:20.40Kobazthat's all of em, i think
20:21.12bcrispi have read = system,call,log,verbose,agent,user,config,dtmf,reporting,cdr,dialplan
20:21.26bcrispwrite = system,call,agent,user,config,command,reporting,originate
20:21.39chocozI'm trying to register one asterisk server to a second one through SIP. Is this the proper syntax in sip.conf: [general]
20:21.41chocozregister => user@192.168.1.102
20:21.57Kobazuser:secret@host
20:22.09Kobazunless there is no secret
20:22.21chocozok
20:23.03chocozseems the problem is then with the 2nd box. it says it's unable to bind to ip
20:23.13Kobazthat would be a problem
20:23.34bcrispKobaz, in the manager.conf comments it says cdr => output of cdr_manager if loaded - is this loaded by default?
20:24.01Kobazbcrisp: any available module you have is loaded if autoload is yes, in asterisk.conf
20:24.14Kobazexcept modules with a noload defined
20:25.24bcrispah gotcha.. saw that it was enabled = no in cdr_manager.conf
20:25.28bcrispwe'll give it a shot now thanks
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20:25.52DrVinceStupid banks that put me on hold.  Dont' they know that I'm paying for this!?!
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20:27.18trogsDrVince: so, find an 800 number that goes to them, and call em from your cellphone :)
20:27.58p3nguinCall them collect.
20:28.18krondorlStill uses up your airtime..
20:28.24bcrispcool, ive got cdr events
20:28.30p3nguinCall them collect from your landline phone.
20:28.48bcrisprofl
20:29.04bcrispdo you guys also right "you're welcome" in the memo field of checks that you write?
20:29.14p3nguinno
20:29.19DrVinceWhat's a landline phone?
20:29.25[TK]D-Fenderbcrisp: No I always put "For services rendered" :p
20:29.28bcrispwhat's a check?
20:29.38ManxPower-workDrVince: Its like a cell phone but reliable and not cordless.
20:30.08DrVinceOh, I think I seen one of those once at my grandma's
20:30.14krondorlI would hazard the reliable part.. but it is better..  LOL
20:30.21bcrispi have a rotary
20:30.43bcrispwatched the history of phones on hist channel - pretty interesting
20:30.46DrVinceDoes rotary uses GSM or ulaw?
20:31.00bcrispself destructs
20:31.26DrVince:-)
20:32.24DrVinceBut really, I'm going cold turkey, I don't have a landline phone, nor a cell.  No fallback.
20:32.56bcrispto receive userevents do i need to make hasmanager=yes in users.conf?
20:33.32bcrispDrVince, in the event of an emergency you could bang really loud on a phone pole with a baseball bat
20:34.44p3nguinautomon is set to *1, and I'm dialing (SIP/number@provider,,W), so shouldn't I be able to activate recording by dialing *1 after the call is connected?
20:35.38ManxPower-workp3nguin: don't you need to set a channel variable before the Dial?
20:35.42chocozgah, so I'm seeing box1's registration requests coming in over wireshark, but box2 isn't responding.
20:36.36PetarisHello all
20:36.46p3nguinmanxpower-work: I don't think so, but perhaps you know something about this and you can clue me in.  After all, it's not working out for me as it is right now.
20:37.44PetarisI have been looking for recomended specs for an AsteriskNow install but I can't find them on the Asterisk website.  Is there a recomended specs list?  And if so where might I find it?
20:38.07QwellPetaris: anything made in the last 5 years should be fine
20:38.08[TK]D-FenderPetaris: There isn't.  Int's CentOS + *.
20:38.28[TK]D-FenderPetaris: And ti depends what you want to do on it
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20:41.49ManxPower-work"Note that the DYNAMIC_FEATURES channel variable must be set to use the features defined here.  The value of DYNAMIC_FEATURES should be the names of the features to allow the channel to use separated by '#'. "
20:41.57ManxPower-workp3nguin: I don't know if that applies to you or not.
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20:44.39[TK]D-Fender*b00m*
20:44.54PetarisQwell: Ok, Thanks
20:45.02Petaris[TK]D-Fender: Ok, thanks.  I just wanted to put it on a VMware ESXi box to play with it.
20:45.02ManxPower-workp3nguin: I assume you saw that when you read features.conf.sample
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20:46.38p3nguinmanxpower-work: Are you by chance referring to the DYNAMIC_FEATURES variable?
20:47.02ManxPower-workOf course.
20:48.04p3nguinI thought I had automon working with the w dial command when someone called me before, and I have never explicitly set that variable.  I'm going to check to see if that does anything, though.
20:48.35ManxPower-workp3nguin: automon might be a "special case" like transfers are.  i.e. they work without the variable being set.
20:48.55makafrehi guys, anybody experienced the "Call rejected, CallToken Support required" and was able to resolve it while using realtime?
20:49.09p3nguinmanxpower-work: That's my belief, but since it isn't working for me now, I have to at least test it to see if there is a change.
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20:52.02DocAwesomemakafre: https://issues.asterisk.org/view.php?id=16159
20:52.29DocAwesomemakafre: what version are you using?
20:53.40makafre@DocAmesone: I am on 1.4.26.1 and trying to go to 1.4.26.2, but I can't because of this.
20:54.24DocAwesomemakafre: any chance you can test 1.4.27.1? If you still have it, please post a note on that issue link I gave you so I can confirm it is an issue
20:55.05makafre@DocAwesome: Sure, will do. Thanks
20:55.08DocAwesomenp
20:56.27makafre@DocAwesome: Is there a field I can add in iax_buddies for this?
20:56.34DocAwesomeeh?
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20:56.55makafre@DocAwesome: yes, like calltokenoptional
20:57.02DocAwesomeI don't understand your question
20:57.26DocAwesomeI presume you mean your table in the database is called iax_buddies?
20:57.33makafreyes :- )
20:57.54DocAwesomeI have no idea about adding the column name in realtime -- you might want to look at the code to see if there is any realtime support for calltokenoptional at all
20:58.01DocAwesomeor just add the column name and try it
20:58.03makafreok, sure
20:58.32makafreI am trying to find a way to make this setting global so I dont have to bother with it, anywhere
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21:05.44bcrispdo i need dahdi to use MeetMe in * 1.6?
21:06.03[TK]D-Fenderbcrisp: Yes
21:07.16bcrispdang
21:09.02Kattyshivers
21:09.09dlynesmakafre: fwiw, I solved that issue (although probably not the correct way), by putting in 'requirecalltoken=no' for each iax2 peer
21:09.20dlynesmakafre: on the server side, that is
21:09.26bcrispcouldn't get dahdi installed due to a kernel issue
21:09.36makafredlynes: nice, thanks for the hint
21:09.41dlynesbcrisp: yeah...still required
21:09.43bcrispbut i really want to play with dynamic meetings
21:09.45ManxPower-workbcrisp: you need DAHDI for Meetme in 1.6
21:10.02dlynesManxPower-work: that's changing for 1.8 though, right?
21:10.09bcrispwhen i attempted to install dahdi it said that the kernel version on the OS was newer than what it required
21:10.23dlynesbcrisp: how is that a show stopper?
21:10.24ManxPower-workdlynes: No idea, I don't work for Digum and am not a developer.
21:10.30dlynesManxPower-work: ah
21:10.31bcrispdlynes - im a total linux newb :/
21:10.35eppigyholds Katty close
21:10.50bcrispdlynes - figuring out how to delete multiple lines in vi was almost a showstopper :)
21:11.17dlynesbcrisp: Can you pastebin the last twenty lines or so of your build run (including the errors or warnings you're getting?)
21:11.29[TK]D-Fenderbcrisp: Don't need to use vi, and what kernel issues, and what distro?
21:11.39bcrispcentos 5
21:11.45bcrisp5.2
21:11.46DocAwesomebcrisp: http://blogs.asterisk.org/2009/11/10/asterisk-project-update-astricon-2009/  <-- read that for info about not needing DAHDI + dahdi_dummy in future versions
21:11.52[TK]D-Fenderbcrisp: No reason for kernel issues there..
21:12.11[TK]D-Fenderbcrisp: Next time show us your problems instead of jsut trying to describe them and maybe they'll get fixed
21:12.21bcrispsorry
21:12.22bcrispwill do
21:13.30ManxPower-workbcrisp: Centos 5.  "yum update"  and reboot if you want.  make sure your kernel, kernel-headers, and kernel-devel packages all match your running kernel.
21:14.03bcrispok, is it ok for me to yum install dahdi-linux ?
21:14.23[TK]D-Fenderbcrisp: Depends if that will match your * version or not
21:14.35[TK]D-Fenderbcrisp: We don't generally advocate packes here
21:14.36ManxPower-workbcrisp: I've never heard of anyone that had a great experience installing asterisk etc from a package
21:14.40[TK]D-Fenderpackages*
21:14.48bcrispthis specific issue was that it was asking for kernel 2.2.18 and i am running 2.2.26
21:14.58[TK]D-Fenderbcrisp: ... COUGH
21:15.10[TK]D-Fenderbcrisp: 2.2 kernel on CentOS 5.2... PARDON?!
21:15.28Kobazbcrisp: old hardware?
21:15.32p3nguinI haven't used a 2.2 kernel in almost 9 years.
21:15.35bcrispno..
21:15.38[TK]D-FenderKobaz: Old?  PREHISTORIC
21:15.41Kobazhaha
21:15.45bcrisp5.2.26 maybe?
21:15.50[TK]D-Fender.......
21:15.52Kobazno.. kernel 1.0 is prehistoric
21:15.54p3nguin2.6.26, maybe
21:15.58[TK]D-Fenderreaches for his ClueBat (tm)
21:16.05bcrispyikes
21:16.06Kobaz2.2 is medeival times
21:16.09ManxPower-workbcrisp: "uname -a"
21:16.16p3nguinuname -r
21:16.30Kobaz-a
21:16.42ManxPower-workeither one will work
21:16.51Kobazkernel 1.2.13 was one of the best early kernels
21:17.05Kobazminus the LD_PRELOAD exploit
21:17.25bcrisp2.6.27
21:17.33p3nguinI used 2.2.19 for a long time.  I hated to upgrade to 2.4.
21:17.35ManxPower-workbcrisp: if you are a linux noob then do the "yum update" and reboot
21:18.37bcrisphides in the corner
21:18.56Kobazthrows a linux unleashed book at bcrisp
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21:25.16bcrisphere's the error output of the make: http://pastebin.ca/1706059
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21:26.52[TK]D-Fenderbcrisp: Now go install all the of the dependencies for it
21:28.00bcrisp[TD]D-Fender: the firmware src?
21:28.22[TK]D-Fenderbcrisp: No, ....
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21:28.33bcrispyou do not have "the sources"
21:28.42[TK]D-Fenderbcrisp: Go look up "centos 5" on the WIKI which will list the packages you should have
21:28.44[TK]D-Fender~wikis
21:28.45infobot[~wikis] VoIP Wiki covering Asterisk, FreeSWITCH, TrixBox, SER, OpenSER, sipX, CallWeaver, and YATE.  http://www.voip-info.org (c) Arte Marketing Inc / CommPartners
21:28.54bcrispok thanks
21:29.22[TK]D-Fendercheckout time, BBIAb
21:33.56bcrispok this is what im getting: http://pastebin.ca/1706072
21:34.10dlynesSo dahdi is no longer required as a timing source for iax2 trunking or for meetme?
21:34.50dlynesbcrisp: that's not an #asterisk issue...that's a #centos issue
21:35.08bcrispdoes it mean i need to downgrade the kernel?
21:35.24dlynesbcrisp: ask about getting that issue solved on the #centos channel...they'll probably be able to tell you what's wrong
21:35.30bcrispok thanks
21:35.43dlynesbcrisp: if i was a betting man though, i'd say you're trying to install something that's not the same as what's installed, and that's why it's complaining
21:36.13dlynesbcrisp: or rather it seems you're trying to install an older kernel
21:36.56bcrispi gathered the package from digium for dahdi .. but when i try to install it I get that error
21:36.58dlynesbcrisp: you might need to tell centos that yes, you really are that crazy, before it'll let you do something that is potentially stupid
21:37.10bcrisphehe
21:37.24dlynesbcrisp: but i don't know about centos one way or the other
21:37.37dlynesbcrisp: is this actually centos, or is it some other distro based on centos?
21:37.39bcrispwell it sounds like the package references an older version of the kernel and centos says wtf?
21:37.55bcrispas far as i know its real centos
21:37.56dlynesbcrisp: and is the package you're trying to install for the same distro?
21:38.00ManxPower-workbcrisp: ask on #centos!
21:38.05bcrispok
21:38.07dlynesbcrisp: or is it for some other distro based on centos?
21:38.33dlynesbcrisp: it looks like you've got something from some other distro conflicting with it
21:38.37bcrispheading to centos
21:39.00voipmonkcompile from source
21:39.06voipmonkdont be lazy
21:39.11dlynesbcrisp: you might also be able to try #rhel, too
21:39.43dlynesvoipmonk: yes, but then he doesn't get to play rpm dependency hell
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21:40.03bcrispthanks dlyne
21:41.41voipmonklooks like he's doing that now
21:42.40bcrispuh oh .. i think its not standard centos
21:42.47dlynesthere ya go
21:42.59dlynesso my hunch was right :0
21:43.01bcrispbut i didnt get that answer, i got "if its not centos why are you here" typical
21:43.32dlynesbcrisp: so what are you running, then?
21:43.48bcrispfk if i know, it said centos 5
21:43.49dlynesbcrisp: elastix?  trixbox?  pbx in a flash?
21:43.58bcrisp(this is through 1and1.com - dedicated server, linux root server)
21:44.08dlynesoh
21:44.10dlynesthat's not centos
21:44.15dlynesthat's centos fubar
21:44.26dlynessome bastardized plesk bullshit
21:44.44dlynesright?
21:44.54dlynesdo a netstat -anp | grep 8443
21:45.02dlynesYou'll probably see it's running plesk
21:45.17dlynesit's got a whole shitload of bastardized packages
21:45.29bcrisp:(
21:45.31bcrispOperating system CentOS 5
21:45.32dlynesAs soon as you do any kind of yum update, you completely screw everything up
21:45.48dlynesIt's not meant to use yum
21:45.57bcrispwell its yum repos weren't set right
21:45.59dlynesIt's definitely centos 5.2/5.4
21:46.02bcrispi changed that and got it working
21:46.09dlynesIt's just ....
21:46.14dlynes.... broken
21:46.27bcrispeverything else appears to work
21:46.30dlynesassuming it's a plesk system
21:46.45dlyneseverything'll all be in weird locations
21:46.54bcrispim just having a hard time getting the dahdi thing installed
21:46.55dlynesweirder than normal centos, even
21:47.52dlynesbcrisp: you have something listening on port 8443, right?
21:49.36bcrispsorry phone brb
21:53.10bcrispyep tcp listening
21:54.55dlynesbcrisp: yeah...so it's definitely a plesk box
21:55.10dlynesbcrisp: you want to talk to server247@1and1.com, then
21:55.23dlynesbcrisp: and those idiots don't know squat, so you'll be running around in circles
21:55.38dlynesbcrisp: you might be better off to ask on forums.parallels.com or whatever it is
21:55.57dlynesbcrisp: parallels.com has a free web-based forum to ask questions on
21:56.06dlynesbcrisp: i.e. plesk support issues
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21:56.54dlynesbcrisp: it's called Parallels Plesk Panel for Linux/Unix
21:57.43dlynesif you can't figure it out on your own, and the forum doesn't help, i'd say you're probably screwed
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22:00.21bcrispya they were kinda jerks when i talked to them
22:00.27bcrisp(i already called on this very matter)
22:00.55bcrispthey said that i could replace the kernel but im not sure how to do that remotely heh
22:02.52dlynesbcrisp: yeah...that's just it...I'm a little reluctant to replace a kernel on a machine i have no physical access to
22:02.53bcrispdlynes: would you suggest that i re-image the server - there was an option for minimal (non-plesk)
22:03.07dlynesbcrisp: might be an idea
22:03.21dlynesbcrisp: then if you screw up, you can reimage it again
22:03.22trogsif you aren't using the plesk control panel, probably best to go without it
22:03.22bcrispim just wondering if ill have the exact issue
22:03.26trogsit really messes with the whole machine
22:03.32trogsties in to all the services etc
22:03.35dlynesbcrisp: see?  trogs has the same opinion i do
22:03.45trogsi used to support it when i worked at rackspace :)
22:03.50trogsit's a real pig
22:03.53dlynesi absolutely hate it, but have to deal with it, because we host a number of domains
22:04.06bcrispi mean, is it usual for a package to require a prior kernel version?
22:04.08dlynesfor several clients
22:04.17dlynesbcrisp: which package?
22:04.28bcrispdahdi-linux
22:04.33dlynesbcrisp: *slap*
22:04.45dlynesbcrisp: any time you need kernel modules
22:04.52dlynesbcrisp: compile them from scratch
22:05.04dlynesbcrisp: don't piss around with trying to install binary kernel modules if you don't have to
22:05.06bcrispsorry.. am using yum
22:05.22dlynesbcrisp: pretend yum doesn't exist...install a compiler, a linker and a make tool
22:05.23bcrispi have the src
22:05.31dlynesand then build from source
22:05.43bcrispcan i primate msg u? i think these guys are annoyed with me
22:05.48dlynesinstalling binary kernel modules is always asking for trouble, even if you don't have plesk to contend with
22:06.00dlynesbcrisp: 1 and 1?
22:06.03dlyneshahaha
22:06.05dlynesi hate those guys
22:06.20dlynesbunch of idiots that don't know anything about their own product, working from a call center in india
22:06.24bcrispwe've used them in the past but it was ok
22:06.42dlynesthere's a reason why their servers are so cheap
22:06.53bcrispno i meant the guys in here are annoyed with me :/
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22:07.10dlynesbcrisp: just install the kernel modules from source
22:07.15dlynesbcrisp: forget the binaries
22:07.33dlynesbcrisp: make sure you have your kernel headers installed
22:07.52bcrispmy knowledge of building is limited to make and make install lol
22:08.13bcrispi have books on the way
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22:09.18dlynesbcrisp: ./configure && make menuconfig && make && make install && make samples && make config
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22:09.30dlynesbcrisp: from the dahdi driver source
22:09.33bcrispya ive used ./configure
22:09.40bcrispk let me dive in there
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22:10.10dlyneson that note, i've got dialplan code to write...ttfn
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22:21.53jblackThere's someone here that likes d&d.. I don't remember who though
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22:26.47nitrus^whjat would cause sip registration to take about 30seconds to a minute?
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22:31.48bcrispim still lost
22:34.19chocozIn a B2BUA scenario, do both boxes need to register with each other?
22:34.26danj1980Hi all. Does anyone have experience with Linksys SPA921?
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22:34.37danj1980Specifically, call parking
22:36.28[TK]D-Fenderchocoz: * is ONLY a B2BUA, and registration is only to inform the other side where to send calls to.  If addresses are already known then registration isn't required
22:36.39[TK]D-Fenderdanj1980: What about it?
22:37.21[TK]D-Fenderswats jblack with his ClueBat (tm) for 3D20 + 5 MILLION DAMAGE!!!
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22:38.44jblack[TK]D-Fender: pardon
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22:39.24[TK]D-Fenderjblack: Make your Saving Roll knave!
22:39.40jblackI can't. I lost my dice.
22:40.01[TK]D-Fenderjblack: Just like your luck.. NO DICE!
22:40.23jblacksorry. I'm tired. And grumpy.
22:41.39frogonwheelsjblack: tip, [TK]D-Fender is very helpful if you ask the right questions... or actually ask a question :)
22:42.04jblackfrogonwheels: Oh, is that so?
22:42.40jblack[TK]D-Fender: How much wood would a wood chuck chuck, if a wood chuck could chuck wood?
22:42.47frogonwheelslol
22:43.45danj1980Regarding the SPA921, the manual mentions that there should be a softkey labelled "Park" when you are in a call however, nothing comes up. It also mentions a menu option that says "Call Park Status" but its missing. Has anyone had experience of this?
22:44.25[TK]D-Fenderjblack: I guess a woodchuch would chuck as much wood as a woodchuck would if a woodchuck could chuck wood.
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22:45.16jblackWow. Thank you for the very helpful, pertinant answer, [TK]D-Fender! You seem to really know your shit!
22:45.39jblackOh, he quit. :P
22:45.55[TK]D-Fenderjblack: Thanks isn't even for my benifit.  SHEESH
22:46.24jblackEHUH
22:46.48jblackError 418: Clue not found.
22:47.01jblackwhatchatalkin'boutwillis?
22:50.24jblacknotes the power of different strokes has in silencing the channel
22:52.01Deeewaynethrows Mr. Drummond at file
22:52.02[TK]D-Fender.... midge pr0n....
22:52.07[TK]D-Fender+t
22:53.56dlynesbcrisp: congratulations
22:54.28danj1980Does anyone else have an SPA921?
22:55.11dlynesdanj1980: lots of weird people do
22:55.12bcrispdlynes: im on the phone with 1and1 trying to get updated kernel headers ...
22:55.26dlynesbcrisp: what for?
22:55.35bcrispdlynes i dont know lol
22:56.01danj1980dlynes: Wow, didnt realise you were a jerk!
22:56.16dlynesbcrisp: yum install kernel-headers
22:56.23dlynesdanj1980: ?
22:57.28bcrispi did that
22:57.31bcrispsays already installed
22:57.49bcrispthe kernel headers show a dif version than the kernel
22:57.51bcrispis that normal
22:58.22[TK]D-Fenderbcrisp: Did you reboot after all your updeates?
22:59.17bcrispthere were no updates
22:59.22bcrispnothing to do
22:59.37bcrisplet me pastebin what i have q with
22:59.59bcrispthe folks at 1and1 said "we installed from a script.. even if the name looks different, its actual centos"
23:01.05bcrisphttp://pastebin.ca/1706170
23:02.24bcrispthats what was yum installed
23:04.00bcrispjust not sure i have what i need to build dahdi
23:04.50dlynesbcrisp: what are these 'rootserver' packages?
23:05.01bcrispthats what they call their scripted name
23:05.07bcrispfor official centos
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23:05.21dlynesbcrisp: how do you get a list of all modules installed that match 'kernel'?
23:05.29dlyneserm kernel* I mean?
23:05.43dlynesI'll compare it with what i've got at our 1 and 1 server
23:05.58bcrispi did yum list installed
23:06.04bcrispand copied all the kernel ones
23:06.16bcrispis that enough?
23:07.08bcrispappreciate your help dlynes
23:07.47[TK]D-FenderOff for a bit
23:07.49[TK]D-FenderBBL
23:07.56p3nguinI can't believe this has taken this many DAYS to do a 10 minute job.
23:09.46dlynesbcrisp: why do you have the 'devel' packages installed?
23:09.46jblackgrins
23:11.30bcrispdlynes i dont know
23:11.44bcrispsome setup guide in la la land mentioned doing it i think
23:11.55dlynesbcrisp: you don't need the source code; only the headers
23:12.05bcrispjust .h c files right?
23:12.18dlynesbcrisp: just the .h files and your dahdi source
23:12.18bcrispignore my last statement
23:12.29bcrispok, do my headers look old?
23:12.45bcrispi assumed they would match the kernel version
23:14.05bcrispif i still worked at my last job id score you some Suns tickets
23:14.17dlyneswhatever suns are
23:14.32bcrispwhere u at?
23:14.56bcrispah canada
23:15.00dlynesyeah
23:15.08bcrispphoenix suns basketball
23:15.11dlynesoh
23:15.15dlynesnowhere near me
23:15.33bcrispi havent been to canada in a long time
23:15.44dlynesanyways...as I said before, plesk is fubar
23:15.56dlynesyou've got an option to reimage to a non-plesk image
23:15.58bcrispya, at the time i had no idea really
23:16.00dlynesjump at it
23:16.23bcrispi dont know if i can do that right now.. they expect me to demo what ive done tomorrow
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23:16.28dlynesthe only thing I can think of holding you back is if you've got too much time invested into what's already installed on this system
23:16.33bcrispwhich is everything except for MeetMe
23:16.35doughi ho!
23:16.59bcrispwe may get a 2nd server that ill do a vanilla install on
23:17.01bcrispno plesk etc
23:17.11dlynesbcrisp: is asterisk the only going onto this box?
23:17.16bcrispyes
23:17.18dlyness/only/only thing/
23:17.27bcrispyes only asterisk
23:17.30dlynesbcrisp: so just reimage w/o plesk
23:17.38bcrispthats what i will do
23:17.50dlynesbcrisp: save yourself some hair, aggravation, and any future children
23:17.59bcrispbut i gotta demo this stuff tomorrow and am not confident enough to do the reimage today
23:18.16dlynesit's not working for you the way it is, right?
23:18.25dlyneshow long do you estimate it'll take w/o the reimage?
23:18.27bcrispeverything except the MeetMe
23:18.38dlynesare you running 1.6.1?
23:18.42bcrispyes
23:18.48dlynesand it's still not working?
23:18.56bcrispi cant install dahdi
23:18.58dougany clues on how i can get my thingy to just play the latest vm left?
23:18.59bcrispthat is whats holding me back
23:19.03dlyneswhy do you need dahdi?
23:19.07bcrispto do meetme
23:19.17dlynes1.6.1 is supposed to have the timing independent of dahdi now
23:19.18dougi can manually change a line like this: exten => s,n(vmplay),Playback(/ifs/doug/asterisk/voicemail/default/100/INBOX/msg0212)
23:19.33bcrispwhen i do make menuselect for asterisk
23:19.36dougi'd rather have it do something like Playback(`ls -lt .../100/INBOX | head -1`)
23:19.41bcrispits greyed out as an option (meetme)
23:19.44dlynesoh
23:20.01bcrispAwesomeDoc said i needed dahdi
23:20.01dougeither play latest by date or by sorted (-rn) filename
23:20.18bcrispdahdi is compiling with headers that dont match the kernel i think
23:20.27bcrispso the trick is getting the kernel header
23:20.55bcrisp1and1 said i can extract the header from the kernel
23:20.56dougthe docs on backticks didn't illuminate me...
23:21.19dougbreakout*CLI> show function backticks
23:21.20dougNo function by that name registered.
23:21.23Kattyhi
23:21.26dougsucks
23:21.34Kattydinner is done
23:21.38bcrispdlynes: does what i said make sense?
23:21.39Kattyi made chili and spaghetti both
23:22.01doughm, guess i gotta compile it in
23:22.47Kattyjblack: i presume you eat your chili with no beans, right?
23:24.25dougwhat's this "shell" function??
23:24.33dougasterisk isn't telling me i've got that either...
23:24.50dlynesbcrisp: yeah
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23:25.10jblackKatty: I haven't had chilli in about... forever.
23:25.19Kattyhmm.
23:25.21Kattyis tomato high in carbs?
23:25.34jblackIn and of itself, it's pretty good.
23:25.37doughuh, actually, system() might do the trick
23:25.41jblackSugar tends to show up around it, though
23:25.44wpichlerhi all - i currently working on getting ss7 by the use of chan_dahdi working.... without luck. Anyone here who is familar with that ?
23:25.53dlynesbcrisp: the problem is your headers and your source don't match the binary kernel version I don't think
23:25.54Kattyjblack: you can make chili using fresh tomatoes
23:26.01bcrispdlynes ya
23:26.09dlynesbcrisp: and so you have a broken install
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23:26.15dlynesbcrisp: reimage!
23:26.21dlynesbcrisp: w/o plesk!
23:26.24Kattyjblack: skip the beans, and use turkey or beef or bison
23:26.31bcrispis that really going to make a difference?
23:26.34Kattyjblack: how's onion on the carby front?
23:26.34jblackKatty: I'll keep that in mind.
23:26.44jblackonion? No idea. Probably very low.
23:26.45Kattygets a recipe
23:26.51dlynesbcrisp: it should make a huge difference, because then you're not using plesk's broken rpms
23:27.04Kattyhttp://42ndrecipestreet.blogspot.com/2009/07/dads-chili.html
23:27.06bcrispdude said if i have the kernel i can extract the header
23:27.12bcrispcan i not do that?
23:27.24jblackI haven't looked at chilli like things very closely as I don't care for chilli. That's why I havent' had it in years. ;)
23:27.26dlynesbcrisp: they've updated the packages for the binary kernel, but never bothered to update the header and source packages
23:27.28dlynesbcrisp: it depends
23:27.29Kattyjblack: that's my dad's recipe, obviously. you can omit the tomato sauce if it has sugar by 2 cups of fresh tomatos diced very thin....
23:27.33Kattyoh
23:27.36Kattyjblack: okay then
23:27.38dlynesbcrisp: actually no
23:27.59dlynesbcrisp: what you can do is extract the make config for the kernel (if it got compiled into the kernel)
23:28.13dlynesbcrisp: ftp.kernel.org will allow you to grab the source
23:28.21jblackI'm also not a cook.
23:28.36dlynesbcrisp: and then you can copy out the headers from there into wherever plesk has them on your drive
23:28.40dougkick ass
23:28.46dougexten => s,n(vmplay),System(ln -s `ls -t /ifs/doug/asterisk/voicemail/default/100/INBOX/*.gsm | head -1` /tmp/lastmsg.gsm)
23:28.49dougexten => s,n,Playback(/tmp/lastmsg)
23:28.49dougproblem sovled!
23:28.51dougthanks guys!
23:28.57jblackI can fry something up in a pan, chop up a veggie, but anything more complicated, and I lose interest.
23:29.04bcrispdlynes: doing that as we speak..
23:29.06jblacksmacks doug
23:29.21dougdid i do that wrong?
23:29.26jblackLook what you just wrote. "/tmp/lastsg"
23:29.26Kattyjblack: the chili recipe is very easy...cook beef, drain, dump remaining contents in pan. heat through
23:29.37jblackDo you not see about 5 security problems with that?
23:30.05dougnot sure about 5...
23:30.14dougdunno that any of that could be forced to interpret
23:30.22dlynesdoug: 'Please enter your credit card number at the beep.  *beep*!!!!'
23:30.22dougmight keep me from hearing the message i intended
23:30.36bcrispdlynes: im seeing a list of versions, but dont see anything by distro
23:30.39jblackOhhh, make that 6.
23:31.03dougsure, i think that risk is somewhat mitigated by this being only for my own personal consumption
23:31.11dlynesjblack: just thought i'd add an asterisk-specific security issue :)
23:31.24jblackdlynes: Kudos.
23:31.29dougif i cared to, i'd put it somewhere other than /tmp
23:31.40dlynesbcrisp: it's source code
23:31.47dlynesbcrisp: source code has nothing to do with distros
23:31.51jblackdoug, you should always care.
23:31.59bcrispsorry
23:32.13dougsure, care is always good.
23:32.15bcrispi thought the kernel source code was different depending on distro
23:32.17jblackYou _never_ put a predictably named _anything_ in a place writable by world.
23:32.22dlynesbcrisp: you want the 2.6.27
23:32.30dlynesbcrisp: maybe 2.6.27.34 (if it exists)
23:32.33bcrispi downloaded 2.6.27.34 like it shows
23:32.42dougit's the "writable by world" part that's not necessarily the case
23:32.44bcrispmoving it over to the linux machine now
23:32.50dlynesbcrisp: ok
23:32.59dougdrwx------  7 root  wheel  1024 Dec  7 18:32 /tmp
23:33.10dougmy high-security /tmp, dont ya know
23:33.40jblackYou're a twit. If I had the power, I would remove your ability to breed.
23:33.54bcrispdlynes: its the same with x86 or x64 right?
23:34.01bcrispas far as headers?
23:34.04dlynesbcrisp: no
23:34.13bcrispdlynes: ok ill look for x64
23:34.18dlynesbcrisp: the x64 and x86 headers are both in the same tarball
23:34.26bcrispoh ok
23:34.28bcrispcool
23:35.11jblackI think I need some squirrels.
23:35.16bcrispwhere should i stick this badboy?
23:35.45dlynesbcrisp: figure it out
23:35.54p3nguinbcrisp: There's no such thing as "x64."  Perhaps you are talking about x86_64.
23:35.58jblackKatty: Your audio is on, just so you know.
23:36.01bcrispya p3nguin
23:36.03dougone problem with the way i'm using system() is that i'm not checking for return codes.  it could easily fail in a few different ways.
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23:36.20dlynesbcrisp: but i'll give you some ideas....  the main linux directory for headers is /usr/include/linux
23:36.22p3nguinbcrisp: That's a 64-bit extension of the x84 architecture.
23:36.36dlynesbcrisp: however, you may have some symbolic links in there...so don't do a mass copy
23:37.03p3nguinerr, x86 arch.
23:37.10dlynesand x84 is an extension of the x86 architecture...but only on p3nguin's machine
23:37.14p3nguintoo many numbers
23:37.24bcrispcool
23:37.27p3nguinIt's not an extension, it's a typo.
23:37.38dlynesp3nguin: i can't be facetious? ;)
23:38.21p3nguinI don't type well, so I often mess up things like that.
23:38.24bcrispok /usr/include/linux does contain a kernel.h
23:39.06dlynesbcrisp: it should contain more than one file
23:39.07Kattyjblack: huh?
23:39.10bcrispya it does
23:39.32jblackKatty: I heard you coughing about 5 minutes ago.
23:39.42Kattyjblack: my broadcast isn't on
23:39.51Kattyoh that was earlier today
23:39.57jblackhttp://www.ustream.tv/channel/squirrel-critter-cam ?
23:40.11jblackOh, that's not live.
23:40.18jblackfeels robbed
23:40.36bcrispdlynes: do u know which file(s) i can move over there .. the tarball is kinda large
23:41.54bcrispits ok ill just let it finish
23:42.57jblackOhh. I know. There's all these wildlife cams, zoo cams, people cams, etc... Way too much competition.
23:43.06dlynesbcrisp: Just use some common sense
23:43.13jblackMaybe what's needed is a mealworm cam. :)
23:43.17dlynesbcrisp: I've never done it before on a plesk install, so I wouldn't know
23:43.19bcrispthomas paine style?
23:43.37dlynesbcrisp: I've only ever done it on Slackware and Debian
23:43.43bcrispk
23:43.56dlynesbcrisp: i only use plesk for hosting
23:44.25dlynesbcrisp: for voip, I use a combination of centos (w/o plesk), debian etch/lenny, and slackware
23:44.26bcrispdlynes: ya, at first the linux machine was just going to be for playing.. i installed the image w/plesk
23:44.29p3nguinWhy not just ignore plesk?  Just because it's present doesn't mean you have to use it.
23:44.35bcrispbut its totally useless for this * stuff
23:44.53dlynesp3nguin: yeah, but it contorts all the paths, and has its  own way of dealing with things, ...
23:45.20dlynesp3nguin: basically it becomes no longer a vanilla centos install
23:45.50bcrispif i can get these headers in place and dahdi installed im gonna be one happy camper
23:46.21ecraneAm I blind, or is there no way to specify your ENUM server for use with the dialplan ENUM functions?
23:46.23bcrispthen i can spend the next week reading linux books and perl books
23:47.00p3nguinThis is too painful for me to continue reading.
23:47.10Kattyjblack: i've set all the videos to private pending audio removal
23:47.37bcrispsorry p3nguin
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23:47.59Kattyjblack: thank you for telling me
23:51.28jblackMy pleasure. Glad I could help
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