| 00:00.11 | johnakabean | how do you get the email message containing the voicemail to include the phone number? The vm_email.inc doesn't contain the specific variable for the phone number so I could add it. |
| 00:01.05 | johnakabean | ${VM_CALLERID} only shows the callerid name |
| 00:02.55 | ChannelZ | It will show both if there is a number |
| 00:03.08 | ChannelZ | it comes up like "Foo Manchu <3335551212>" |
| 00:04.09 | ChannelZ | but otherwise you can use VM_CIDNUM and VM_CIDNAME supposedly |
| 00:05.07 | johnakabean | uhmm it always only shows the name and I never have incoming calls without callerid based on the security I have at my termination providers. |
| 00:05.13 | johnakabean | I will try to VM_CIDNUM |
| 00:05.18 | johnakabean | the* |
| 00:06.54 | ChannelZ | well maybe it changed in versions but in 1.4 it will show both, I'm sitting here staring at several emails with it... |
| 00:07.07 | johnakabean | i'm using 1.4.62 |
| 00:07.25 | johnakabean | it did the same thing earlier, channelz, but now it doesn't |
| 00:07.49 | johnakabean | earlier I was using a distribution of freepbx, asterisk called pbx in a flash but now I installed freepbx and asterisk manually |
| 00:07.57 | johnakabean | compiled* |
| 00:08.35 | ChannelZ | huh I just noticed it puts X-headers in the email with them too |
| 00:08.47 | johnakabean | i read that |
| 00:09.12 | johnakabean | but its only putting the cidname; let me try now that i've reloaded with the vm_CIDNUM |
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| 00:10.42 | johnakabean | no luck |
| 00:11.26 | *** part/#asterisk mbrevda (n=mbrevda@unaffiliated/mbrevda) |
| 00:11.52 | ChannelZ | what kind of channel are the calls coming in on? Maybe there's a bug with it populating that information or something |
| 00:12.04 | johnakabean | SIP |
| 00:12.16 | johnakabean | the callerid name and number is working perfect in asterisk |
| 00:12.52 | johnakabean | i'm going to search through all .inc and .conf files for VM_ to make sure the values are set in asterisk |
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| 00:13.32 | *** mode/#asterisk [+o leifmadsen] by ChanServ |
| 00:13.45 | ChannelZ | hmm dunno what to say, I'm running 1.4.26.2 and just left myself a message and VM_CALLERID came up in the email as "My Name <##########>" |
| 00:15.00 | johnakabean | ${ORIG_VM_CIDNUM} |
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| 00:22.04 | linuxviewer | What is the command in asterisk cli to see version> |
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| 00:24.10 | ChannelZ | core show version |
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| 00:44.01 | Katty | eppigy: (= |
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| 00:45.51 | dlewis | has anyone gotten asterisk to work with a Cablevision Optimum Voice line? |
| 00:52.52 | drmessano | How exactly would it work? |
| 00:54.27 | riddlebox | well I got calls to go out of my iax trunk, but still nothing coming in ;( |
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| 00:55.39 | Zerocross | riddlebox : what's the problem ? |
| 00:55.54 | ChannelZ | maybe no one wants to call him? |
| 00:56.08 | riddlebox | Zerocross, I get a busy when I call the number |
| 00:56.16 | dlewis | drmessano: via a FXO card. |
| 00:56.23 | riddlebox | it doesnt seem like its hitting my asterisk server |
| 00:56.57 | drmessano | dlewis: Ok, so whats the issue.. I don't see how the provider has much to do with it if it's a simple FXO analog setup |
| 00:57.12 | Zerocross | ok know the problem, the problem is your incoming call route |
| 00:57.17 | drmessano | 100,000 foot questions are beyond meaningless |
| 00:58.08 | Zerocross | had the same problem with my voip provider , but solved the problem by editing the incoming call route |
| 00:58.11 | riddlebox | Zerocross, I have followed the teliax site for it, I have my context correct, and I am putting my number in to dial my extension but I still get a busy, I put NoOp in step 1, but nothing shows on cli |
| 00:58.37 | riddlebox | Zerocross, https://teliax.com/pages/asteriskconfig |
| 00:59.48 | dlewis | drmessano: sorry, was gathering my thoughts. |
| 00:59.59 | dlewis | drmessano: I was using an ht503 |
| 01:00.35 | dlewis | drmessano: I used these instructions: http://www.voipcoop.org/viewtopic.php?t=65&highlight=ht503 |
| 01:00.59 | dlewis | drmessano: however, I was told the I had to tweak the Caller ID TX Level (dB) for my provider |
| 01:02.16 | Zerocross | so what's the exact output of your debug on incoming calls ? |
| 01:03.29 | dlewis | I've "tweaked" as much as I can, without going insane with the settings. |
| 01:03.41 | riddlebox | Zerocross, thats the thing, I get nothing coming in |
| 01:03.49 | dlewis | was just wondering if anyone has tried. |
| 01:04.02 | riddlebox | Zerocross, I set iax2 set debug, and nothing seems to hit my machine |
| 01:04.04 | Zerocross | you should see anything !! |
| 01:04.08 | Katty | wibbles |
| 01:04.12 | Zerocross | try cord |
| 01:04.13 | dlewis | and succeeded... If not, I'll get my hands onto a more expensive FXO card, and see if it'll work. |
| 01:04.16 | Zerocross | $rtr |
| 01:04.32 | dlewis | but, it would be good to know if a lower level FXO card would be sufficient. |
| 01:04.33 | Zerocross | try core set debug channel ... |
| 01:05.19 | Zerocross | just a second |
| 01:06.00 | *** part/#asterisk el_critter (n=critter@190.78.48.45) |
| 01:06.00 | jaytee | weebles wobble but they don't fall down |
| 01:06.16 | Katty | trying to keep myself distracted. |
| 01:06.29 | jaytee | look! a squirrel! |
| 01:06.32 | riddlebox | do I just need to forward port 4569 for iax2? |
| 01:06.46 | ChannelZ | yes |
| 01:06.48 | Katty | lol (= |
| 01:07.43 | Zerocross | yes ... for iax you need just one port ... |
| 01:08.09 | riddlebox | hrmm it is forwarded |
| 01:10.15 | riddlebox | Zerocross, also my call records for teliax do not show the call coming in |
| 01:11.01 | ChannelZ | This sounds like a job for Teliax Tech Support |
| 01:11.39 | riddlebox | I have posted on their forum and nothing all day from them |
| 01:12.50 | Zerocross | outgoing works ? |
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| 01:14.30 | ChannelZ | If you're behind a firewall, perhaps they are not seeing your external IP? Do you register the IAX connection with them? |
| 01:14.38 | raden | Sandheaver: you around bro ? |
| 01:14.45 | raden | Katty: ???? |
| 01:14.56 | Zerocross | iax2 show peers |
| 01:15.01 | Katty | raden: ears are ringing. |
| 01:15.14 | raden | Katty: hows it going |
| 01:15.29 | Katty | bleh |
| 01:15.32 | Zerocross | what does it give |
| 01:15.33 | raden | me 2 |
| 01:17.09 | Zerocross | riddlebox ? |
| 01:17.54 | Nugget | apparently macros and odbcstorage voicemail in 1.6.1 is a recipe for core dumps. |
| 01:20.04 | ChannelZ | so is taco bell! |
| 01:20.51 | jaytee | lol |
| 01:24.30 | Zerocross | raddlebox : what does 'iax2 show peers' show ? |
| 01:25.02 | Zerocross | sorry, i mean riddlebox |
| 01:25.18 | Zerocross | :) |
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| 01:30.31 | retentiveboy | Anyone having issues with VoicePulse now? Can't register from here. |
| 01:31.00 | Zerocross | pirhanias 2 -> what did these little fishes do wrong ? :) |
| 01:45.55 | riddlebox | Zerocross, yeah |
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| 01:46.44 | riddlebox | Zerocross, teliax/riddlebo 63.211.239.14 (S) 255.255.255.255 4569 OK (52 ms) |
| 01:47.15 | Zerocross | hmm ... seems ok |
| 01:47.56 | riddlebox | yeah I can make calls out, but calls dont come in |
| 01:48.24 | Zerocross | do they only support iax ? |
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| 01:52.45 | riddlebox | Zerocross, nope sip and iax, I had sip but wanted to switch to iax |
| 01:53.16 | riddlebox | I will be testing some sip stuff for work, so I want to be able to forward the sip ports to that device and not mess with my incoming trunk to asterisk |
| 01:53.43 | Zerocross | yeah, o, that's all right ... shoukd work with iax to |
| 02:00.06 | Katty | ahhh |
| 02:00.09 | Katty | the boyfriend is theraputic. |
| 02:00.11 | Katty | and calming |
| 02:00.25 | Katty | i am a very lucky person (= |
| 02:01.27 | russellb | and then you get on #asterisk |
| 02:01.46 | Katty | russellb: i stay here. |
| 02:01.57 | Katty | russellb: he decided to watch some sort of football thing. |
| 02:03.08 | russellb | oic |
| 02:03.23 | dlewis | russellb: ready for astricon? |
| 02:03.25 | Zerocross | try core set debug channel on (if you have no channel) this will the debug on on new channels |
| 02:03.31 | Katty | i learned long ago to let a guy do what he wants to do |
| 02:03.34 | russellb | dlewis: depends on what you mean by ready. :-) |
| 02:03.35 | Katty | and i do what i want to do. |
| 02:03.44 | dlewis | russellb: true... |
| 02:03.49 | Katty | does not require constant attention. |
| 02:03.53 | russellb | excited about it, y es |
| 02:03.58 | russellb | presentation written? no. |
| 02:04.27 | dlewis | russellb: wish I could be there... Any chance for an east coast Astricon in the future? |
| 02:04.38 | russellb | redirects the question to marketing |
| 02:04.40 | russellb | no idea |
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| 02:05.27 | dlewis | ok |
| 02:05.39 | russellb | i would think it will be somewhere else ... |
| 02:07.11 | dlewis | could be somewhere else on the west coast. |
| 02:07.14 | dlewis | we'll see I guess |
| 02:13.03 | drmessano | Maybe we need a kickass conference in Atlanta |
| 02:13.09 | drmessano | or Charlotte |
| 02:13.33 | drmessano | Somewhere on the East Coast that's NOT New York.. |
| 02:13.39 | russellb | the first astricon, 2004, was atlanta |
| 02:14.22 | drmessano | In 2004, I still though an Asterisk was a button on my phone |
| 02:15.45 | dlewis | drmessano: why not NY? Too expensive? |
| 02:17.00 | drmessano | Too expensive, and for some reason, everyone wants to put major east coast events in NY and Boston |
| 02:17.42 | drmessano | If anyone has ever looked at a map. NYC is neither in the populatory or the geographatory center of the east coast |
| 02:18.08 | drmessano | Also, NYC sucks, NJ rules. |
| 02:18.46 | drmessano | Lets have Astricon at the Meadowlands! |
| 02:19.23 | dlewis | drmessano: the last statement on NY vs. NJ just invalidated your entire reason... |
| 02:19.24 | dlewis | lol |
| 02:19.45 | drmessano | Not really, no |
| 02:19.48 | dlewis | I don't hate on NJ |
| 02:19.55 | dlewis | but, better than NY |
| 02:19.57 | dlewis | come on |
| 02:19.58 | dlewis | lol |
| 02:20.36 | [TK]D-Fender | Fine, everybody to Stowe, VT next time! |
| 02:20.44 | [TK]D-Fender | spins up some Julie Andrews |
| 02:21.03 | drmessano | Lets have it in Delaware.. That's not douche |
| 02:21.16 | drmessano | or in Chevy Chase, Maryland |
| 02:21.35 | drmessano | WHEELING, WEST VIRGINIA.. THATS IT |
| 02:21.51 | drmessano | Astricon in a state where they barely have reliable power or running water |
| 02:22.19 | dlewis | lol |
| 02:22.23 | dlewis | that would be interesting |
| 02:22.58 | drmessano | Astricon 2011: Asterisk Telephony Convention, Gun Show, and German Shepherd Puppies |
| 02:23.06 | drmessano | Thats it! |
| 02:23.13 | [TK]D-Fender | yee-haw! |
| 02:23.13 | drmessano | West Virgina, here we come! |
| 02:24.03 | me|ong | anybody have any asterisk e-books? |
| 02:24.13 | drmessano | [TK]D-Fender: BYOP |
| 02:24.18 | drmessano | Bring Your Own Power |
| 02:24.49 | [TK]D-Fender | locks drmessano in his human-hamster wheel and cracks his whip! |
| 02:25.15 | drmessano | Half of the Asterisk Development team dies after being overcome by generator fumes at Asterisk 2011 |
| 02:25.16 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: MUSH you lazy bastard! I demand 3Kwh! |
| 02:25.48 | dlewis | russellb: are you in Hunstville? |
| 02:25.54 | drmessano | russellb: bring candles.. it may just save your life |
| 02:25.57 | dlewis | Huntsville aint all hustle and bustle either |
| 02:26.02 | dlewis | I lived there for 9 months |
| 02:26.03 | [TK]D-Fender | johnakabean ... will never be "root"-ed ;) |
| 02:26.07 | dlewis | hada client in guntersville |
| 02:26.14 | russellb | dlewis: yeah, that's where I live. |
| 02:26.45 | riddlebox | me|ong, just do a search for The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition |
| 02:26.57 | dlewis | had to fly into huntsville for 9 months straight |
| 02:27.01 | dlewis | every week |
| 02:27.18 | drmessano | dlewis: Maybe next time you visit they will have paved roads |
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| 02:27.38 | dlewis | drmessano: maybe |
| 02:28.06 | drmessano | Hmm.. good thing I don't have a Sidekick |
| 02:28.14 | drmessano | T-Mobile FTL |
| 02:28.34 | drmessano | How the hell does that even happen? |
| 02:28.52 | dlewis | drmessano: I honestly thought the same thing. |
| 02:28.56 | dlewis | who f'ed that up... |
| 02:29.08 | dlewis | from hairline to toe-nail... |
| 02:29.09 | drmessano | Apparently it was a botched SAN upgrade |
| 02:29.13 | dlewis | the guys that set it up |
| 02:29.17 | dlewis | to the guys who maintain it |
| 02:29.23 | dlewis | etc.. |
| 02:29.49 | drmessano | Rule #1 of multi disk arrays.. "If you move the disks, put them back the same way" |
| 02:31.17 | drmessano | "We were using a RAID3, and chuck dropped the parity drive when he tripped over my laptop.. Sorry" |
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| 02:34.03 | me|ong | lmfao |
| 02:34.11 | me|ong | so who was playing with netapp is my Q |
| 02:34.20 | me|ong | raid3.. *shivers* |
| 02:35.03 | drmessano | lol |
| 02:37.41 | drmessano | I think all too often we assume there's some large array of redundant shit running some of these companies |
| 02:38.12 | drmessano | But in reality, it's amazing how shitty their "cloud" is |
| 02:38.14 | me|ong | lawyers are the worste |
| 02:38.21 | me|ong | the absolutel worse |
| 02:38.27 | me|ong | wow i can't type. |
| 02:38.51 | me|ong | refuse to delete anything.. refuse to upgrade anything.. until that glorious day.. |
| 02:38.56 | me|ong | when all fucking hell breaks loose |
| 02:39.07 | drmessano | "We have it backed up on ZIP disks, right?" |
| 02:39.10 | me|ong | something fails.. |
| 02:39.12 | me|ong | LOL |
| 02:39.19 | me|ong | not even |
| 02:39.26 | me|ong | recently my company got brought in... |
| 02:39.37 | me|ong | oldschool novell netware |
| 02:39.43 | me|ong | massive drive failure... |
| 02:39.47 | me|ong | backups were shite |
| 02:39.58 | drmessano | Ok, hold it right there.. |
| 02:40.07 | me|ong | the people in charge of their IT stuff was dumbfounded by the fact it failed |
| 02:40.09 | drmessano | You didn't run volrepair enough times |
| 02:40.20 | me|ong | not even that... |
| 02:40.38 | me|ong | we had to put hardware in palce to try and duplicate the environment |
| 02:40.42 | me|ong | to upgrade everything |
| 02:40.44 | me|ong | to RECOVER |
| 02:40.56 | drmessano | Rule #1 of volrepair "Run volrepair (number of times it didn't work)+1 to recover data" |
| 02:41.02 | me|ong | lol |
| 02:41.03 | drmessano | nice |
| 02:41.20 | me|ong | they think the data is so secure and precious |
| 02:41.30 | me|ong | yet.. most times ai fart could blow it all over |
| 02:41.35 | me|ong | "but it works?!" |
| 02:41.47 | me|ong | "so does a mexican.. doesn't mean it's working properly" |
| 02:41.53 | drmessano | lol |
| 02:42.36 | drmessano | Whats better is "We considered your quote for a new server and decided maybe next year. This year we want 30 scanners and Adobe Acrobat so we can move from paper to PDF" |
| 02:42.42 | drmessano | "Wait, WTF?" |
| 02:42.57 | *** join/#asterisk me|ong (i=cast@99.246.137.153) |
| 02:43.06 | drmessano | [22:43] <drmessano> Whats better is "We considered your quote for a new server and decided maybe next year. This year we want 30 scanners and Adobe Acrobat so we can move from paper to PDF" |
| 02:43.06 | drmessano | [22:43] <drmessano> "Wait, WTF?" |
| 02:43.29 | me|ong | hahha |
| 02:43.31 | me|ong | oh man |
| 02:43.39 | drmessano | Yeah, your tires are low and bald, throw another fat chick on the hood |
| 02:43.40 | me|ong | if they are serious about that though... look into adobe livecycle |
| 02:43.46 | me|ong | ;) |
| 02:44.07 | me|ong | one of my clients is the leading developers for it.. basically a microsoft sharepoint.. but basic flash and adobe reader is all you need |
| 02:44.11 | me|ong | which is free :o |
| 02:44.47 | drmessano | As soon as Google Docs has their Scan to Google Docs app, the shit will turn on it's ear |
| 02:44.57 | me|ong | it's coming soon |
| 02:45.01 | drmessano | Google will save us all |
| 02:45.04 | me|ong | they're also partnered with google for that :P |
| 02:45.10 | me|ong | google + adobe |
| 02:45.31 | drmessano | Hopefully google didnt license the bloatware module |
| 02:45.49 | drmessano | Who the hell needs a 40MB download to look at a glorified image file? |
| 02:46.06 | drmessano | Foxit FTW |
| 02:46.08 | me|ong | it's the backend from what i've understood |
| 02:46.22 | me|ong | adobe reader will soon be able to edit and manipulate the files |
| 02:46.26 | me|ong | even even specific portions |
| 02:46.42 | me|ong | so like digital signatures etc... and forms. You'll be able to fill them out electrocnically |
| 02:46.47 | drmessano | Nice |
| 02:46.53 | me|ong | so shit like gov forms and unemployment shit can all be done faster |
| 02:46.59 | me|ong | you apply |
| 02:47.09 | me|ong | get a link with a "dead time" or limit for when you can apply |
| 02:47.24 | me|ong | fill out the specifics.. it takes in the changes and boom you're processed |
| 02:47.54 | drmessano | Googles last straw with me was when they deprecated the 5+6 engine in Acrobat 9.. Which removed the ability to edit forms made with Acrobat 6 |
| 02:47.57 | drmessano | Err |
| 02:47.59 | drmessano | Adobes* |
| 02:48.24 | me|ong | every copany has to get rid of old tech :S |
| 02:48.38 | drmessano | Acrobat 6? |
| 02:49.04 | me|ong | how is that? |
| 02:49.05 | me|ong | 2000? |
| 02:49.10 | drmessano | 2003 |
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| 02:49.14 | me|ong | :X |
| 02:49.21 | me|ong | going the way of the XP |
| 02:49.45 | drmessano | We're talking about documents |
| 02:50.01 | drmessano | Rendering documents unusable |
| 02:50.15 | me|ong | oh it's not backwards compatible at all? |
| 02:50.31 | me|ong | that.. can't be entirely true though... they'd have to have a conversion path no? |
| 02:50.48 | Katty | ponders snack. |
| 02:51.05 | me|ong | furr burger? |
| 02:51.05 | me|ong | :D |
| 02:51.23 | drmessano | A document made with Acrobat 6 that had fields you could fill in, then print, will not allow editing the fields in Acrobat 9 |
| 02:51.40 | me|ong | ohhh |
| 02:51.48 | me|ong | it simply embeds it as a pic.. not a document |
| 02:51.51 | drmessano | Thats reader 9.. if you have Acrobat Standard 9, you can open it, convert it, and keep using it |
| 02:51.53 | me|ong | correct? |
| 02:52.00 | me|ong | ah |
| 02:52.12 | me|ong | yeah live cycle.. you upload.. it converts and you can reedit now through reader |
| 02:52.16 | drmessano | It ignores the extra data that renders the form |
| 02:52.21 | me|ong | reader = simply interface now |
| 02:52.27 | me|ong | back end controls the docs |
| 02:52.48 | drmessano | Same document still works in Foxit |
| 02:52.59 | drmessano | Ended up moving that user back to Reader 8 for now |
| 02:53.28 | drmessano | Reader 9 also will not work with PCL printers |
| 02:54.08 | drmessano | Reader 9 and Flash 10, FTL Adobe |
| 02:54.22 | ZPertee | does anyone know if it is possible for asterisk to work with packetcable? |
| 02:54.24 | drmessano | Flash 10 runs 100% CPU on most windows boxes |
| 02:54.25 | me|ong | hmm |
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| 02:54.36 | drmessano | Pure shit |
| 02:54.42 | me|ong | didn't know |
| 02:54.47 | drmessano | Works fine on Karmic beta :) |
| 02:54.54 | me|ong | i've been having problems with a clients point of sales software |
| 02:55.01 | me|ong | they just kept saying "make it a PS printer" |
| 02:55.16 | drmessano | With Adobe? |
| 02:55.18 | me|ong | doesn't help when there's no fucking drivers for PS for the printer :S |
| 02:55.20 | me|ong | yeah |
| 02:55.24 | drmessano | Yep |
| 02:55.43 | drmessano | PCL drivers are complete fail with Acrobat 9.. found that out the hard way early on |
| 02:55.57 | me|ong | especially PCL6 |
| 02:56.04 | me|ong | i've started hating those fucking drivers.. |
| 02:56.10 | me|ong | it's like win ME |
| 02:56.13 | me|ong | bugs bugs bugs |
| 02:56.22 | drmessano | Hate the source.. |
| 02:56.29 | drmessano | Acrobat 8 was fine |
| 02:56.36 | me|ong | lol |
| 02:56.52 | drmessano | Apparently they needed to upgrade the Google Toolabr bundle |
| 02:57.12 | me|ong | fuck google toolbar |
| 02:57.15 | me|ong | fuck all toolbars |
| 02:57.18 | drmessano | 8 didn't have enough spyware and reporting data |
| 02:57.24 | drmessano | So adobe axed it |
| 02:57.57 | drmessano | I'm sick of having to break out my laptop to play FarmVille and Vampires on Facebook |
| 02:58.10 | me|ong | lol qtf |
| 02:58.19 | me|ong | queeer points :P |
| 02:58.27 | drmessano | I want a working Flash player in Windows, damnit |
| 02:58.53 | drmessano | Don't fuck with my Soybeans, bra |
| 02:59.09 | me|ong | riddlebox.. forgot to say thanks |
| 02:59.17 | me|ong | found it :) reading through it now |
| 02:59.51 | me|ong | hopefully i can get the dialplan shit down path so I can figure out how to integrate with my router :D |
| 03:00.16 | me|ong | got a cisco 2610 with an FXO and FXS cards |
| 03:02.29 | drmessano | Interesting |
| 03:02.29 | me|ong | need to figure out how to get the physical line to ring but also have a soft phone ring if i haveit on elsewhere |
| 03:02.29 | me|ong | if so... i got a slick battleplan for some clients :D |
| 03:04.07 | drmessano | How much are the FXO and FXS cards? |
| 03:05.10 | me|ong | not sure |
| 03:05.14 | me|ong | about 80$ on ebay i think |
| 03:05.17 | me|ong | 40-80 |
| 03:05.26 | drmessano | A SIP ATA with FXO and FXS is about that |
| 03:05.32 | me|ong | i think you need an NM-V1 or V2 though |
| 03:06.06 | me|ong | ahh.. but with a router... i have a few other options :P |
| 03:06.16 | drmessano | Such as? |
| 03:06.29 | me|ong | can slap in a T1 card or use the E/M cards i have to plug an old PBX into it also |
| 03:07.09 | me|ong | i see PCs as servers.. or in this case a call manager |
| 03:07.54 | me|ong | router is strictly made to change techs... a PC is made to run many things other than just changing technilogies signals |
| 03:09.18 | drmessano | Seems like it would be cheaper to put a T1 card in the Asterisk box than implement a 2610 and a T1 WIC |
| 03:09.30 | me|ong | i already have all the parts ;) |
| 03:09.36 | me|ong | cost me 200$ for 4 of them |
| 03:09.50 | me|ong | meaning 4 routers with the FXP/FXS cards |
| 03:09.56 | me|ong | T1.. less than 100$ |
| 03:09.57 | drmessano | There's a good reason for that |
| 03:10.10 | me|ong | yeah, it's a good lab :D |
| 03:10.29 | drmessano | I just gave away 2 2610s heh |
| 03:10.43 | drmessano | 2611s actually |
| 03:10.48 | me|ong | decent devices |
| 03:10.54 | me|ong | 2600's just don't fucking die lol |
| 03:10.57 | drmessano | 10 years ago |
| 03:11.25 | drmessano | I've lost FE ports on 2600's numerous times |
| 03:11.39 | me|ong | :X |
| 03:12.28 | drmessano | They don't handle near field lightning very well, at all |
| 03:12.50 | me|ong | lol |
| 03:12.53 | me|ong | coulda told you that |
| 03:13.09 | me|ong | i've seen a few 3560's PoE switches kill ports 'cause of that |
| 03:13.21 | me|ong | stupid mines/electricians not grounding like they should. |
| 03:13.39 | drmessano | It's more than that |
| 03:13.45 | me|ong | prob with those devices... when one port blows.. it's partner usually goes too :( |
| 03:14.04 | me|ong | took them losing a 3750 to smarten up |
| 03:14.34 | me|ong | sucker was a backbone for a smelter :X |
| 03:14.38 | drmessano | I had racks with 4 inch ground strap bonded with silver solder and tied to ground systems run 25ft into decent soil and still lost ports |
| 03:14.53 | me|ong | qtf |
| 03:14.55 | drmessano | They're just tempermental |
| 03:15.23 | drmessano | Never lost a T1 WIC though, so there was something about those FE ports on the 2600 series |
| 03:15.57 | me|ong | were they using shielded cable? |
| 03:16.04 | drmessano | 4 foot run to a switch and never lost the port on the switch the FE port was connected to.. |
| 03:16.22 | drmessano | Nope, no shielded cable |
| 03:16.32 | me|ong | yeah that's messed up |
| 03:17.15 | drmessano | Same thing with 3com NIC's.. I would lose 3com NICs on workstations constantly, at $90 a pop.. Threw in an ass of $25 Linksys NICs, never lost 1 |
| 03:17.30 | Jumpie | wow |
| 03:17.34 | me|ong | oh here's a nifty one |
| 03:17.34 | Jumpie | just tried absinthe for the first time |
| 03:17.39 | me|ong | you got any pix515e? |
| 03:17.39 | Jumpie | ..............ultra nasty |
| 03:17.45 | me|ong | jumpie |
| 03:17.46 | Jumpie | me|ong lol i just sold one |
| 03:17.47 | Jumpie | for $250 |
| 03:17.49 | drmessano | pix? *shudders* |
| 03:17.49 | me|ong | wormwood or dogwood? |
| 03:17.53 | Jumpie | wormwood |
| 03:17.55 | me|ong | fuck! |
| 03:17.56 | me|ong | DUDE |
| 03:17.57 | Jumpie | one grand measure |
| 03:18.00 | me|ong | you coulda sold for over 1k |
| 03:18.01 | Jumpie | lucid bnrand |
| 03:18.07 | Jumpie | yea i know |
| 03:18.09 | drmessano | I hate PIX boxes |
| 03:18.14 | Jumpie | but....its harder to move the older stuff |
| 03:18.18 | drmessano | I got 2 PIX 501's here |
| 03:18.20 | me|ong | just had to stick in one of the supported intel NICs |
| 03:18.30 | Jumpie | i had 2 2950g-48 i had a 3550, a pix 515e, and a 1841 |
| 03:18.31 | me|ong | then upgrade to ASDM 8.0.2 |
| 03:18.32 | me|ong | :D |
| 03:18.42 | me|ong | send me the 35505 |
| 03:18.47 | me|ong | 3550* |
| 03:19.33 | dlewis | is contemplating getting some cisco AP's |
| 03:19.37 | dlewis | and doing some wireless VOIP |
| 03:19.45 | me|ong | heh |
| 03:19.47 | me|ong | i got two :D |
| 03:19.49 | me|ong | 1232's |
| 03:20.07 | me|ong | that's my next plan if i can get this stuff working correctly |
| 03:20.12 | drmessano | has some WRT54Gs with DD-WRT.. they work just as well |
| 03:20.20 | me|ong | hell naw |
| 03:20.26 | me|ong | i've killed those on wifi |
| 03:20.29 | me|ong | they just can't handle it |
| 03:20.33 | Jumpie | dlewis let me know how that works out for ya :P |
| 03:20.40 | dlewis | drmessano: i've got a couple of wrt54gs as well |
| 03:20.40 | me|ong | nor can they do mmultiple IPSec to the same destination IP |
| 03:20.41 | dlewis | decent |
| 03:20.51 | drmessano | I've also had to replace slews of wireless NICs due to compatibility problems with Cisco APs |
| 03:20.54 | drmessano | Waste of time |
| 03:21.09 | me|ong | turn off aironet extensions? :P |
| 03:21.13 | drmessano | yes |
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| 03:21.44 | drmessano | Cisco just isn't cost effective |
| 03:21.58 | drmessano | It's hardware + constant labor |
| 03:22.28 | dlewis | drmessano: any suggestions on the best antennas? I've got a wrt54g v2 here with some open attenna ports |
| 03:22.30 | me|ong | check out aruba networks |
| 03:23.07 | drmessano | dlewis: Any 9db antenna pair will do.. Go cheap, it's all just plastic and copper anyway |
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| 03:23.50 | drmessano | Unless you know someone with a machine shop who can make a slot antenna |
| 03:23.58 | drmessano | Then umm.. We need to hang out more |
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| 03:24.18 | Jumpie | man i am fucked up |
| 03:24.25 | me|ong | lol |
| 03:24.51 | me|ong | Occasionally, you may also see the pipe character (|) being used as a |
| 03:24.51 | me|ong | separator between arguments, instead of a comma |
| 03:24.51 | me|ong | :D |
| 03:24.51 | me|ong | hearts his pipe |
| 03:24.54 | dlewis | drmessano: ok |
| 03:25.00 | me|ong | all started 'cause i didn't want to get logged in shitty scripts |
| 03:25.09 | me|ong | plus it fucked up shitty marc mirc scripts hehehe |
| 03:25.34 | dlewis | drmessano: I might know someone in DC |
| 03:27.47 | drmessano | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Slottedwaveguide.jpg |
| 03:27.51 | drmessano | Booyah |
| 03:28.28 | me|ong | lol |
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| 03:28.59 | dlewis | lol |
| 03:29.25 | me|ong | k here's a random Q... would it be possible to tether a cellphone to asterisk.. and use it's phone dialing to force calls through? |
| 03:29.25 | me|ong | :D |
| 03:34.50 | dlewis | me|ong: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+Connecting+to+the+Cellular+Network |
| 03:35.15 | dlewis | me|ong: closest |
| 03:35.26 | dlewis | night people |
| 03:35.31 | dlewis | hitting the sack |
| 03:35.36 | me|ong | peace |
| 03:42.53 | Katty | looks in |
| 03:43.28 | drmessano | chan_mobile works great |
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| 05:07.57 | WindBack | Hi, I have a problem with my spa932 |
| 05:08.23 | WindBack | i think the problem is in the * configuration |
| 05:08.46 | WindBack | i created a hint for every extension i want to monitor |
| 05:09.12 | WindBack | when i call some of those extensions, i see the Busy lamp in my spa932 blinking |
| 05:09.36 | WindBack | but when i hung up this extension the busy lamp keep blinkig |
| 05:10.51 | WindBack | if i do, core show hints or sip show subscriptions on my asterisk CLI, I continue seeing the state inUse&Ringing |
| 05:12.12 | WindBack | The problem is that the asterisk server is sending a message to the spa932 whe the extension monitored is ringing or dialing, but asterisk never sends a message to the spa932 when the extension finish the call |
| 05:12.16 | WindBack | any idea?? |
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| 05:21.47 | shido6 | hrmm |
| 05:22.19 | mitesh | how do i select the digium TDM models, i am getting confused someone please help me |
| 05:24.05 | shido6 | what are you looking to do , mitesh? |
| 05:29.49 | coppice | 4 ports and a starboard |
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| 06:40.53 | Katty | looks in |
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| 07:00.45 | radic | "good" morning |
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| 07:01.22 | radic | how can I figure out the preoblem why asterisk can't register my SIP-accounts? |
| 07:02.08 | ChannelZ | Well being as vague as possible won't help |
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| 07:02.44 | ChannelZ | Are you getting any clue on the console? |
| 07:02.44 | radic | ChannelZ: no |
| 07:03.52 | radic | no timeout, no notice caused by a wrong password, ... |
| 07:04.22 | ChannelZ | Are these 'SIP accounts' phones? |
| 07:04.39 | radic | no |
| 07:05.45 | ChannelZ | ...ok... |
| 07:07.33 | ChannelZ | right well I can't read minds so if that's all you've got to offer.. good luck with your problem |
| 07:07.52 | radic | I got the reason |
| 07:08.17 | radic | my box tells the SIP-server the internal LAN IP |
| 07:12.44 | ChannelZ | use externip or externhost in your sip.conf |
| 07:14.56 | radic | ChannelZ: in [gerneral]? |
| 07:16.15 | ChannelZ | if it applies to all of your SIP accounts underneath |
| 07:16.27 | ChannelZ | otherwise it can be specified individually as needed |
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| 07:23.48 | radic | argh |
| 07:24.38 | radic | now says the SIP-server that the password is wrong |
| 07:25.07 | ChannelZ | perhaps the password is wrong. |
| 07:26.04 | radic | It's confusing cause my FritzBox logs on succesfully withe the same login-data |
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| 07:40.48 | tzafrir_laptop | I saw a poster today encoureging me to call a certain service (medical insurance) |
| 07:41.25 | tzafrir_laptop | The poster shows a mother and a child talking through two cups and a string |
| 07:42.45 | tzafrir_laptop | The only problem was that the string was dandling on the ground. Which suggest they weren't really listening |
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| 07:46.50 | radic | ChannelZ: problem solved >> http://www.ip-phone-forum.de/showthread.php?t=105196 |
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| 07:50.17 | ChannelZ | I don't read german, but ok glad you figured it out |
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| 07:54.45 | radic | re |
| 07:54.47 | radic | ChannelZ: you don't read or you can't read? |
| 07:55.55 | WeazelON | Google Translate FTW ? |
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| 08:03.48 | radic | [Oct 11 10:02:04] WARNING[10480]: app_dial.c:1202 dial_exec_full: Unable to create channel of type 'SIP' (cause 3 - No route to destination) |
| 08:04.23 | radic | means that I should now work on the extensions.conf? |
| 08:06.06 | TJNII | Hint: No route to destination |
| 08:06.43 | TJNII | Also known as it can't communicate with whatever it it supposed to dial. |
| 08:14.22 | drmessano | Hmmm |
| 08:19.26 | tzafrir_laptop | radic, it is a generic message |
| 08:19.34 | tzafrir_laptop | what did you get just before it? |
| 08:20.06 | TJNII | puts $20 on Dial() |
| 08:20.22 | tzafrir_laptop | this is app_dial telling you: "I asked the handler of type 'SIP' to generate a call. It has failed" |
| 08:20.47 | tzafrir_laptop | A previous message from chan_sip.c should hopefully tell you why |
| 08:20.59 | tzafrir_laptop | If not: increase verbosity, debug, sip debu |
| 08:21.06 | tzafrir_laptop | (in this order...) |
| 08:23.59 | radic | tzafrir_laptop: I think the problem is that the FritzBox gets a 503 on registration |
| 08:45.54 | DigitalFlux | Any body faced this error message while trying to configure real time config for sip users before : |
| 08:45.58 | DigitalFlux | Realtime mapping for 'sippeers' found to engine 'mysql', but the engine is not available |
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| 08:55.09 | Wildy | hi |
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| 09:19.39 | Zerocross | hi ppl |
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| 09:42.29 | DigitalFlux | turns out i didn't install asterisk-addons and forgot to configure res_mysql.conf |
| 09:42.37 | DigitalFlux | Thanks Asterisk folks |
| 09:56.23 | Zerocross | hi ppl |
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| 10:10.21 | bitnbit | hi all! |
| 10:12.38 | bitnbit | when i execute the command asterisk -rx "core show channels", i see 142 active channels. I have 4 port digium E1 card. Then how come 142 active channels? |
| 10:14.51 | coppice | its an extra value offer, only from your friendly Digium dealer |
| 10:21.48 | tzafrir_laptop | bitnbit, a channel is one leg of a call. If you have a call between a local SIP phone and a remote caller through the E1 trunk, you'll get two channels from it |
| 10:22.51 | radic | how can I get the name auf the account woh's traying to dialout? |
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| 10:35.11 | tzafrir_laptop | dial out through? |
| 10:35.19 | tzafrir_laptop | radic, ==^ |
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| 10:35.42 | radic | I think I solved the problem... |
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| 10:58.12 | bonobo_slr | Hi, I have been asked to look into fax2email solutions and I am not sure if asterisk is capable of doing what we want to do |
| 10:59.05 | bonobo_slr | my details are a bit sketchy but is seems that we have PRIs but they are already terminated on the cisco devices |
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| 11:07.47 | bonobo_slr | ok - it looks like Hylafax is a good start |
| 11:12.41 | coppice | are you thinking out loud, or do you have a question? |
| 11:13.46 | bonobo_slr | i'm not sure. The problem I have is that I know nothing about this stuff. I see the problem being the PRIs are already terminated on the Cisco router |
| 11:14.01 | bonobo_slr | I don't know how to get it to the fax server |
| 11:14.42 | bonobo_slr | or whether I need a fax server... |
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| 11:19.32 | bonobo_slr | what is IAX? |
| 11:20.19 | bonobo_slr | or IAXmodem rather? |
| 11:21.33 | coppice | IAX is a VoIP protocol. IAXmodem is a FAX modem which talks IAX |
| 11:23.14 | bonobo_slr | ok thanks - I think this is the route i need to be looking in. |
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| 12:08.38 | zigond | Hi! Anybody know how to limit of simultaneous processing of .call files? |
| 12:11.00 | zigond | For ex.: therie is 10 .call files /var/spool/asterisk/outgoing/. But Asterisk must issue not more than 2 outgoing calls at any time. How to do this |
| 12:11.34 | zigond | ? |
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| 12:17.53 | webczat | Hey. |
| 12:18.01 | webczat | where can i find a meetme application? |
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| 12:20.06 | webczat | i mean in gentoo. |
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| 13:44.00 | wonderworld | zigond: move them into /outgoing in the right moment |
| 13:44.34 | dlewis | morning |
| 13:44.56 | raden | when i put product number in WS-C2950-24 i get nothing |
| 13:45.08 | raden | just blank white screen browser says done |
| 13:45.13 | raden | gah |
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| 14:00.26 | riddlebox | man teliax is starting to piss me off! |
| 14:01.15 | voipmonk | ruh roh |
| 14:01.18 | voipmonk | rut rey ro row? |
| 14:01.45 | voipmonk | change ur account from sip to iax yet? |
| 14:02.06 | riddlebox | I did, and was able to make calls out, but no calls came in |
| 14:02.18 | riddlebox | now I get a disconnected error |
| 14:03.00 | riddlebox | and I cant make calls |
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| 15:16.56 | radic | re |
| 15:16.59 | radic | [Oct 11 17:15:48] NOTICE[11027]: res_musiconhold.c:553 monmp3thread: Request to schedule in the past?!?! |
| 15:17.07 | radic | what did I wrong? |
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| 15:45.01 | el_critter | hi |
| 15:47.43 | shido6 | hello |
| 15:47.48 | thehar | dances |
| 15:47.52 | thehar | >.> |
| 15:47.54 | thehar | <.< |
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| 15:52.48 | DJCharlie | Morning all. Anyone awake? |
| 15:52.59 | shido6 | yep |
| 15:52.59 | shido6 | whats up? |
| 15:53.19 | thehar | Very awake. |
| 15:53.49 | DJCharlie | I'm having a bit of trouble getting remote SIP phones registered. |
| 15:54.16 | shido6 | ok |
| 15:54.26 | shido6 | whats the problem? |
| 15:54.35 | DJCharlie | The phone (X-Lite's softphone) says "408: Registration timeout" and the Asterisk box shows nothing. |
| 15:54.44 | thehar | natttttt |
| 15:55.17 | shido6 | ~sipnat |
| 15:55.18 | infobot | [~sipnat] Quick guide on configuring * + SIP behind NAT : http://www.aocomputing.net/?p=3 , otherwise check the WIKI at http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+SIP+NAT+solutions |
| 15:55.23 | DJCharlie | Here's a post with my config and arrangements: http://forums.digium.com/viewtopic.php?t=71845 |
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| 15:57.17 | thehar | s/nindaddr/bindaddr/ |
| 15:58.00 | DJCharlie | Ah, thank you thehar! |
| 15:58.34 | thehar | also sip debug will help you see lovely things |
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| 16:00.41 | radic | I have 3 accounts in my sip.conf where my phones connect to and the 3 from my SIP-provider |
| 16:00.43 | DJCharlie | So I see. I'm getting SIP/2.0 489 Bad event |
| 16:01.14 | radic | at the moment when I do a call from all phones the same number is used |
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| 16:02.40 | radic | ist ther anywhere an example how to set the needed extension that every phone use his own nuber? |
| 16:02.53 | radic | for autogoing calls |
| 16:03.37 | [TK]D-Fender | radic: make different contexts with the extens to dial out that provider and point each phone to their specific context |
| 16:04.10 | [TK]D-Fender | DJCharlie: in response to what? PASTEBIN the SIP debug for whats going on. |
| 16:04.12 | [TK]D-Fender | ~pb |
| 16:04.13 | infobot | [~pb] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://bin.cakephp.org/ , or apt-get install pastebinit |
| 16:04.15 | [TK]D-Fender | ^^^ |
| 16:07.23 | DJCharlie | shido has it, thanks! |
| 16:11.04 | [TK]D-Fender | DJCharlie: Would be wise to have more than 1 set of eyes looking at it in case 1 person misses what another wouldn't |
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| 16:14.58 | roe | Does anyone know of an end point manager for use with polycom phones (with a web gui)? |
| 16:15.21 | roe | basically a configuration editor/tftp server with some web controls. |
| 16:16.58 | thehar | nope.. make one |
| 16:16.58 | thehar | i did |
| 16:16.59 | thehar | =) |
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| 16:22.08 | radic | thx [TK]D-Fender |
| 16:22.24 | radic | include => foobar or include = foobar? |
| 16:22.31 | [TK]D-Fender | radic: eiter |
| 16:23.40 | radic | the includes dosn't work |
| 16:24.02 | [TK]D-Fender | radic: And you aren't showing me your configs, and you call attempts that show what is getting called |
| 16:24.15 | [TK]D-Fender | radic: PASTEBIN <- |
| 16:25.10 | radic | http://eris.zapto.org/extensions.conf |
| 16:27.09 | [TK]D-Fender | radic: And the rest? |
| 16:27.17 | radic | sip.conf? |
| 16:27.38 | [TK]D-Fender | radic: That says where peers hsould point to. And is said to show the CALL to prove what IS getting called |
| 16:27.52 | [TK]D-Fender | radic: Doesn't seem like you're really looking at your problem... |
| 16:30.22 | radic | http://eris.zapto.org/sip.conf |
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| 16:32.43 | me|ong | chmod 744! |
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| 16:34.57 | [TK]D-Fender | radic: and the REST? |
| 16:35.17 | [TK]D-Fender | radic: (me|also hinted your permissions issue) |
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| 16:39.29 | radic | [TK]D-Fender: wiche rest? |
| 16:39.46 | me|ong | i think he's DOA |
| 16:39.54 | me|ong | oh there he is! |
| 16:40.03 | dlewis | afternoon fellas |
| 16:40.04 | me|ong | you need to fix permissions to your file.. can't read |
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| 16:40.36 | me|ong | *tips his hat* |
| 16:40.36 | me|ong | afternoon |
| 16:40.43 | [TK]D-Fender | radic: http://eris.zapto.org/sip.conf <- FORBIDDEN |
| 16:40.45 | dlewis | what's new? |
| 16:40.49 | [TK]D-Fender | radedand you aren't showing the CALL |
| 16:40.49 | radic | sry |
| 16:41.03 | radic | now is changed the permissions |
| 16:41.07 | Gnutoo | hi, I've there is a strong echo with ulaw + sip&iax here(so the other end is causing the echo)...is there some cheap card that could cancel the echo in pci format...I've small needs(only echo cancelation for one channel at a time for now) cheap means less than 300$ |
| 16:42.07 | Gnutoo | the setup doesn't involve pstn |
| 16:42.39 | Gnutoo | only pure voip |
| 16:43.03 | [TK]D-Fender | radic: You aren't showing the CALL <--------------- |
| 16:43.26 | radic | ? |
| 16:43.33 | [TK]D-Fender | Gnutoo: There is no such thing as echo cancellation over VoIP |
| 16:43.52 | [TK]D-Fender | radic: Where is the CLI output showing what is getting executed? |
| 16:44.06 | Gnutoo | [TK]D-Fender, ok ouch...so sending something like a dtmf before the conversation and calculating the echo won't work...ouch |
| 16:44.23 | Gnutoo | thanks anyway |
| 16:44.26 | [TK]D-Fender | Gnutoo: No, if one end is screwed, too bad |
| 16:44.41 | me|ong | echo comes from the phone no? |
| 16:44.48 | Gnutoo | no from voip |
| 16:44.52 | Gnutoo | no phones involved |
| 16:44.53 | me|ong | lol |
| 16:44.54 | me|ong | dude |
| 16:44.55 | me|ong | k |
| 16:44.56 | Gnutoo | indeed |
| 16:44.59 | me|ong | then yeah it's your MIC |
| 16:45.03 | me|ong | buy a good one |
| 16:45.11 | me|ong | that will do noise cancellation |
| 16:45.14 | me|ong | and fyi |
| 16:45.18 | Gnutoo | no in the book it say that the far-end is causing the echo |
| 16:45.22 | Gnutoo | me|ong, ok thanks a lot |
| 16:45.25 | me|ong | voip = voice packets... not circuit switched |
| 16:45.28 | me|ong | it's the backend not the front |
| 16:45.29 | Gnutoo | indeed |
| 16:45.43 | Gnutoo | I ear the echo... |
| 16:45.50 | me|ong | i get terrible echo when i use my crappy webcam as a mic |
| 16:45.56 | Gnutoo | not the far-end so it's the far-end |
| 16:46.02 | me|ong | but if i use one of those gamer headsets or bluetooth ones.. nothign happens |
| 16:46.03 | Gnutoo | ok thanks a lot |
| 16:46.05 | me|ong | k |
| 16:46.11 | [TK]D-Fender | me|ong: you need AEC at your side |
| 16:46.11 | me|ong | so the far end is using a piece of crap mic |
| 16:46.18 | me|ong | AEC? |
| 16:46.34 | [TK]D-Fender | me|ong: Acoustic Echo Cancellation. Your soft-phone should be doing this |
| 16:46.52 | Gnutoo | mine is doing it |
| 16:46.56 | Gnutoo | but it's not sufficent |
| 16:47.03 | Gnutoo | but not the far-end's soft phone |
| 16:47.08 | me|ong | is it only to one person? |
| 16:47.10 | Gnutoo | it's kiax2 |
| 16:47.23 | Gnutoo | for now there aren't many people using my setup |
| 16:47.23 | [TK]D-Fender | Soft-phones suck.... using with open speakers is typically dumb |
| 16:47.39 | me|ong | what tk said |
| 16:47.41 | Gnutoo | ok I'll ask what the far-end's setup is |
| 16:47.41 | me|ong | <me|ong> but if i use one of those gamer headsets or bluetooth ones.. nothign happens |
| 16:47.42 | me|ong | :P |
| 16:47.57 | me|ong | anything that takes your sound from the mic helps immensly |
| 16:49.05 | Gnutoo | so it's definitely the mic? (could it be the sound card or something else) ? |
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| 16:50.34 | [TK]D-Fender | Gnutoo: Could be that too... or the app... and the speakers... |
| 16:50.34 | [TK]D-Fender | Gnutoo: If you're using destop speakers just shoot yourself now for doing something stupid :) |
| 16:50.39 | me|ong | lol |
| 16:50.46 | me|ong | surround sound ftl |
| 16:50.47 | Gnutoo | lol I'm not |
| 16:51.04 | me|ong | he's implying the other people are stupid |
| 16:52.06 | [TK]D-Fender | I never properly heard what is on either side |
| 16:52.29 | [TK]D-Fender | radic: Well? |
| 16:52.34 | me|ong | alkeida prisoners |
| 16:52.40 | radic | hmm |
| 16:52.57 | radic | the debug-output is useless |
| 16:54.06 | me|ong | to you |
| 16:54.09 | me|ong | he needs. |
| 16:54.11 | me|ong | ;) |
| 16:54.12 | [TK]D-Fender | radic: Why am I not seeing it? |
| 16:54.13 | dlewis | any of you guys try to set up asterisk with a faxu VOIP provider, like one of the cable company VOIP service? |
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| 16:54.22 | dlewis | faxu=faux |
| 16:54.34 | [TK]D-Fender | radic: If you knew what to look for you'd have solved your problem already. |
| 16:55.01 | [TK]D-Fender | radic: So why are you asking us and not showing? |
| 16:55.10 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: What makes that "faux voip"? |
| 16:55.34 | dlewis | [TK]D-Fender: it pops out of the cable modem a RJ-45 |
| 16:55.57 | dlewis | so, it's really VOC (VOIP over Cable) |
| 16:56.26 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: Who says what their backbone tech does? I've seen many run H.323 on them |
| 16:57.15 | dlewis | [TK]D-Fender: have you heard of anyone getting it working with asterisk? |
| 16:57.27 | dlewis | I tried with Optimum Voice and an HT503 and I couldn't get CID to work |
| 16:57.33 | dlewis | I had to twaek my DB RX levels |
| 16:57.43 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: "IT"? What model is "IT" specifically, and work HOW with *? |
| 16:57.49 | dlewis | but, there are hundreds of configurations there |
| 16:58.14 | dlewis | IT = one of the cable providers |
| 16:58.18 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: You mean you want to do D>A>D conversion? EW. Just ditch their service and go direct with someone |
| 16:59.03 | dlewis | [TK]D-Fender: exactly... I was wondering if someone was able to get it working |
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| 17:00.12 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: Sorry you aren't offering any usable detail |
| 17:00.41 | dlewis | [TK]D-Fender: I wish I could... I get no errors... CID just doesn't display |
| 17:01.11 | dlewis | I use these instructions: http://www.voipcoop.org/viewtopic.php?t=65&highlight=ht503 |
| 17:01.21 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: ..... |
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| 17:01.33 | dlewis | I've been told I needed to play with my "Caller ID Minimum RX Level (dB): -18" |
| 17:01.40 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: and... |
| 17:01.42 | [TK]D-Fender | ~gs |
| 17:01.43 | infobot | GrandSuck phones & gateways are cheap junk which should be avoided with extreme prejudice. |
| 17:01.45 | dlewis | [TK]D-Fender: when I try it again, I will show you my sipdebug output |
| 17:02.10 | dlewis | [TK]D-Fender: don't have access to my box right now. Was just wondering if anyone has tried before. |
| 17:02.11 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: What does SIP debug have to do with DB levels? |
| 17:02.36 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: And asking when you aren't in a position to do anything about it is a waste of everyone's time |
| 17:02.40 | dlewis | [TK]D-Fender: was going to show my output when the device connects, etc... I've been told I had to change the DB levels, but it might be another issue. |
| 17:02.57 | dlewis | [TK]D-Fender: a simple "I haven't tried" doesn't waste people's time |
| 17:03.05 | dlewis | i haven't dug any deeper than just asking if anyone has tried. |
| 17:03.07 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: Come back when you have something to actually show |
| 17:03.18 | dlewis | sure... lol |
| 17:03.27 | dlewis | I think I'll stay though, if you don't mind. |
| 17:03.29 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: "Hi has anyone been able to fix a car?" |
| 17:03.36 | dlewis | not the same... |
| 17:03.42 | [TK]D-Fender | Cause yeah... not like the details matter.... |
| 17:04.12 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: We've got no proof about what your problem is. |
| 17:04.18 | linuxviewer | D-Fender: I visit this channel often, and every single time, you are online being inconsiderate of others. |
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| 17:04.58 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: All you have is a symptom. Guessing the cause blindly is a waste |
| 17:04.58 | dlewis | [TK]D-Fender: as I've said, my problem doesn't matter as of now, since I don't have access to the box |
| 17:04.58 | dlewis | it was a query to see if anyone has gotten asterisk to work with a cable providers VOIP service. |
| 17:04.58 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: Oh I'm sure it amtters... jsut that you can't do much about it now. |
| 17:05.00 | dlewis | it's a pretty straight forward question. |
| 17:05.45 | ChannelZ | the answer is yes |
| 17:05.50 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: Well so far there are 3 pieces... Asterisk, your GrandSuck device, and a Cable modem that spits out POTS. The latter we didn't even get a model number for which I asked for twice. |
| 17:06.07 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: So there are 3 things to examine, not 2 |
| 17:06.30 | dlewis | [TK]D-Fender: as I've said, once I get access to it, I'll provide more details |
| 17:06.40 | dlewis | I'm not in front of the cable modem to provide the model of the cable modem |
| 17:06.58 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: Well add my "yes" to ChannelZ's |
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| 17:07.14 | dlewis | ok |
| 17:07.21 | dlewis | thanks :) |
| 17:07.28 | dlewis | I hope to obtain your help once I get more details. |
| 17:07.29 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: I know other people that can take the output of the cable ATA and find a way to let * use it. |
| 17:07.51 | dlewis | [TK]D-Fender: that's what I want to hear, that it's possible. I appreciate the info. |
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| 17:08.35 | dlewis | I haven't seen any documentation on getting Optimum Voice to work, nor has google been much help. |
| 17:08.51 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: Its POTS. Seriously do you think its really different than a boring telco line? What kind of magic do you think is going on, and why would you think its any different considering a cheap $10 phone from Walmart works on it? |
| 17:09.44 | dlewis | [TK]D-Fender: well, like I said earlier, I was able to get it to work. But, CID wasn't displaying... Again, once I try again, I will provide more details. |
| 17:10.20 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: If a $10 phone works, the #1 suspect is the GS |
| 17:10.27 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: Which again has nothing to do with * |
| 17:10.43 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: so "work with Asterisk" is a complete misnomer |
| 17:11.02 | dlewis | [TK]D-Fender: ok |
| 17:11.14 | dlewis | [TK]D-Fender: I've also purchased a sipura device and an x100p card. I haven't tried them yet. |
| 17:11.30 | [TK]D-Fender | radic: I asked for your call's CLI output half an hour ago. Where is it? |
| 17:12.44 | radic | there is noting in the help withe the meaning of "call output" |
| 17:12.56 | [TK]D-Fender | radic: huh? |
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| 17:15.37 | radic | hmm |
| 17:16.56 | radic | why is asterisk unable to include other context in an other? |
| 17:19.12 | ChannelZ | it is not unable to do that |
| 17:19.50 | [TK]D-Fender | radic: It si and you aren't showing us the call |
| 17:20.26 | radic | [TK]D-Fender: how should I show what asterisk do withe the calls? |
| 17:20.34 | [TK]D-Fender | radic: ........ |
| 17:20.45 | [TK]D-Fender | radic: Go to * CLI and copy paste the output of the call! |
| 17:20.52 | [TK]D-Fender | ~pb |
| 17:20.53 | infobot | [~pb] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://bin.cakephp.org/ , or apt-get install pastebinit |
| 17:20.53 | dlewis | radic: pastbin your CLI output |
| 17:20.54 | [TK]D-Fender | ^^^^^^^^ |
| 17:21.01 | radic | there is no autput |
| 17:21.04 | [TK]D-Fender | I've only been asking for over half an hour. |
| 17:21.09 | [TK]D-Fender | Good friggen greif |
| 17:21.10 | radic | output |
| 17:21.29 | [TK]D-Fender | radic: "asterisk -r" <---------- look at the damn call! |
| 17:21.39 | [TK]D-Fender | radic: watch dialplan execute |
| 17:21.51 | dlewis | radic: set verbose 10 |
| 17:24.23 | radic | nothing |
| 17:24.39 | dlewis | radic: watch the CLI as you make the call |
| 17:25.08 | [TK]D-Fender | radic: radic How can there be nothing? When you call, NOTHING happens at all? Asterisk ignores your call completely? |
| 17:25.09 | radic | ich kroieg zu viel... |
| 17:26.24 | radic | [TK]D-Fender: no, I got a message that the number issn't assignd from my sip-provider |
| 17:26.43 | [TK]D-Fender | radic: Then you aren't looking at * CLI at verbose 10 |
| 17:27.40 | radic | http://eris.zapto.org/Screenshot.png |
| 17:27.46 | radic | there is nothing! |
| 17:28.40 | ChannelZ | including the screenshot! |
| 17:28.40 | [TK]D-Fender | radic: PASTEBIN not screen shots, and your permissions are bad again |
| 17:28.42 | [TK]D-Fender | ~pb |
| 17:28.43 | infobot | [~pb] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://bin.cakephp.org/ , or apt-get install pastebinit |
| 17:28.45 | [TK]D-Fender | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ |
| 17:28.47 | [TK]D-Fender | PASTEBIN! |
| 17:29.09 | ChannelZ | asterisk -rvvvv |
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| 17:29.45 | dlewis | ChannelZ: which cable provider did you use to connect to asterisk? |
| 17:29.59 | ChannelZ | all of them |
| 17:30.17 | dlewis | including Optimum Voice? |
| 17:30.28 | dlewis | (all of them means all of them, but still) |
| 17:30.31 | ChannelZ | It's a phone line. if you're having problems your ATA is more important |
| 17:30.34 | radic | the screen-shot was in the wrong web-root |
| 17:30.35 | dlewis | there are 20+ cable providers |
| 17:30.40 | dlewis | ChannelZ: ok |
| 17:31.21 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: You are fishing hoping that the POTS their device magically spits out is really any different than anyone elses. This is a mistake |
| 17:31.46 | [TK]D-Fender | radic: VERBOSE 10, not DEGUB 10 |
| 17:32.04 | [TK]D-Fender | [13:21]<dlewis>radic: set verbose 10 |
| 17:32.13 | [TK]D-Fender | [13:26]<[TK]D-Fender>radic: Then you aren't looking at * CLI at verbose 10 |
| 17:32.16 | dlewis | [TK]D-Fender: not fishing, just wondering. I understand now that it must be my ATA |
| 17:32.48 | dlewis | so, I'll try the sipura and the x100p |
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| 17:33.57 | ChannelZ | that seems prudent |
| 17:33.59 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: Funny, I told you that 20 minutes ago |
| 17:34.43 | dlewis | [TK]D-Fender: hilarious. |
| 17:35.14 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: Yeah I'm laughing through the tears of having to repeat myself constantly today. |
| 17:36.20 | dlewis | [TK]D-Fender: right... My initial confusion was due to the fact that someone I know got the same ATA working with another cable provider. Therefore, I will take your guidance and say it's the ATA until I get back at trying it again. |
| 17:37.09 | ChannelZ | then perhaps the ATA is misconfigured, but either way we have no idea |
| 17:37.31 | dlewis | ChannelZ: agreed. Without details, you can't provide advice. |
| 17:38.03 | dlewis | ChannelZ: did you use a card (i.e. x100p) or another type of device? |
| 17:38.07 | ChannelZ | but the ATA has to get the callerID signals from the telco in order to pass that on to * so if that's not happening, it's likely not * |
| 17:38.52 | [TK]D-Fender | The ATA is talking SIP to *. * doesn't interpret CID from it. Its there, or it isn't |
| 17:39.01 | [TK]D-Fender | Eitehr way tis the ATA's fault |
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| 17:39.34 | [TK]D-Fender | radic: So where is the new call with VERBOSE 10, not DEBUG 10? |
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| 17:39.58 | ChannelZ | One thing that could be an issue is if your ATA goes into * and is answering the call immediately, it has not had time to actually read the CID. Put a delay in before the answer |
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| 17:40.24 | dlewis | ChannelZ: yup, tried that from what I remember. Put a long delay and a short one |
| 17:41.21 | [TK]D-Fender | [13:04]<linuxviewer>D-Fender: I visit this channel often, and every single time, you are online being inconsiderate of others. |
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| 17:41.47 | [TK]D-Fender | darn, he left and I missed it |
| 17:42.11 | [TK]D-Fender | Love it when people play "emotional police", make a bad call, and never actually help anyone. |
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| 17:43.48 | [TK]D-Fender | radic: So finally? this whole process should have taken 1 MINUTE, not 1 HOUR |
| 17:43.54 | doolittlework | hi all |
| 17:44.40 | radic | http://eris.zapto.org/cli.txt |
| 17:45.02 | doolittlework | i am logging the cli of * i only see files full full.1 full.2 full.3 full.4 full.5 does asterisk overwrite the files if say full.5 is full? |
| 17:45.15 | ChannelZ | so you answer a call and then hang up on it. Looks like it's working to me |
| 17:46.22 | ChannelZ | doolittlework: that's your logrotate probably doing that |
| 17:46.23 | [TK]D-Fender | radic: SIP/373 points to [daniel]. We see -- Executing [992@daniel:1] Answer("SIP/373-09467e90", "") in new stack |
| 17:46.38 | [TK]D-Fender | radic: then the wait & hangup |
| 17:47.16 | [TK]D-Fender | radic: And it is using the 993 in [start] just like the INCLUDE allows |
| 17:47.27 | [TK]D-Fender | radic: What do you think it SHOULD eb doing instead? |
| 17:47.30 | [TK]D-Fender | be* |
| 17:48.21 | ChannelZ | farting unicorn dust |
| 17:48.33 | radic | 992 should execute SayDigits() |
| 17:48.51 | radic | look at the expansions.conf |
| 17:49.00 | [TK]D-Fender | radic: exten => _XXX,n,Hangup <--------- THIS is your problem |
| 17:49.11 | [TK]D-Fender | radic: You left extens with bad pattens in the BASE contexts |
| 17:49.40 | [TK]D-Fender | radic: It is executing the FIRST 2 priorities under [start] and then the THIRD is calling from the MAIN context [daniel] |
| 17:49.53 | [TK]D-Fender | radic: You have made a very undfortunate PATTERN mistake |
| 17:50.03 | [TK]D-Fender | radic: and the "include" works fine |
| 17:50.59 | [TK]D-Fender | radic: the 5th line under [daniel] , and you repeated this mistake in the other contexts as well |
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| 17:52.39 | radic | I commented it but the same problem |
| 17:53.07 | [TK]D-Fender | radic: radic I don't see your new configs or your new call attempt |
| 17:53.33 | radic | 993 works |
| 17:53.53 | radic | the mistake must bee at the 992 exten |
| 17:54.02 | [TK]D-Fender | radic: I don't see your new configs or your new call attempt <--------------- |
| 17:55.03 | [TK]D-Fender | [haupt] exten => _XXX,n,Hangup <---- fix this |
| 17:55.21 | [TK]D-Fender | [daniel] exten => _XXX,n,Hangup <- and this |
| 17:55.47 | [TK]D-Fender | [manfred] exten => _XXX,n,Hangup <- ditto |
| 17:56.02 | [TK]D-Fender | [jemand] exten => _XXX,n,Hangup <- MORE |
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| 17:58.49 | radic | and the hangup at the 992 too |
| 17:59.27 | [TK]D-Fender | radic: Ok, you seem to not understand the need to show your changes and your new call attempts |
| 17:59.43 | [TK]D-Fender | radic: And have wasted well over an hour on this. I am out of time |
| 17:59.56 | radic | now it works |
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| 18:00.08 | [TK]D-Fender | radic: WAKE UP and show what you're doing or you're going to waste days on not jsut your time, but ours as well |
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| 18:00.16 | radic | i wastet 1,5 days at the PBX |
| 18:00.18 | [TK]D-Fender | heads out |
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| 18:03.14 | radic | [TK]D-Fender: I hungup on numbers with 3 digits |
| 18:03.23 | radic | _XXX. will fix it |
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| 18:05.54 | hudony | Hi there |
| 18:07.22 | *** join/#asterisk carrar (i=tim@osburn.com) |
| 18:08.34 | hudony | I need help with queue |
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| 18:11.02 | carrar | moo |
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| 18:15.21 | tzafrir_laptop | hudony, we're busy with previous cases. Please hold |
| 18:15.43 | hudony | ok |
| 18:16.08 | tzafrir_laptop | hint: asking a question might advance you a bit in the queue :-) |
| 18:16.57 | tzafrir_laptop | infobot, tell hudony about ask |
| 18:17.53 | hudony | going... :) |
| 18:19.45 | hudony | I'm trying, using call files, to parse a csv file in order to make successive calls. I'm doing that for a small compagnie so the number of phone number to dial will be around 15 (they are their own customers). This part is done. Quit easy. Now, each time the person called answer the call, one of the "agent" has to be notifiy with a "beep" that an automated call has been answerd and... |
| 18:19.47 | hudony | ...then, the call is automatically bridged |
| 18:19.58 | hudony | I have been trying to figure out how to achieve this but I'm not sure |
| 18:20.04 | hudony | Is it with a queue? |
| 18:21.28 | hudony | I need the big picture of how to achieve that |
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| 18:29.06 | Jumpie | anybody have any good sources of some sinatra 'on hold' music clips? |
| 18:29.07 | Jumpie | :D |
| 18:33.06 | hardwire | archive.net |
| 18:33.30 | hardwire | err.. archive.com |
| 18:33.32 | hardwire | err |
| 18:33.32 | hardwire | wait |
| 18:33.41 | hardwire | archive.org :) |
| 18:34.10 | drmessano | Sinatra? |
| 18:34.32 | hardwire | http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=sinatra%20AND%20mediatype%3Aaudio |
| 18:34.37 | hardwire | drmessano: Frank |
| 18:34.51 | drmessano | I know who the fuck he is |
| 18:35.00 | hardwire | Really? |
| 18:35.03 | hardwire | pokes drmessano |
| 18:35.19 | drmessano | Good luck getting custom prompts |
| 18:35.25 | drmessano | Unless you have a shovel |
| 18:35.34 | hardwire | hold music clips |
| 18:36.07 | drmessano | So just illegal hold music, not a voice package? I see |
| 18:36.15 | hardwire | :P |
| 18:36.31 | riddlebox | p2p |
| 18:37.14 | hardwire | playa 2 playa. |
| 18:37.39 | hardwire | reports Jumpie to the authorities. |
| 18:39.36 | drmessano | This is #asterisk, not #warezfto |
| 18:39.39 | drmessano | This is #asterisk, not #warezftp EITHER |
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| 18:40.51 | drmessano | Thinly veiled attempts to locate copyrighted works will not be tolerated |
| 18:41.20 | drmessano | "Can someone help me find a copy of Windows 7 so I can SSH into my PBX.. It's an emergency" <-- FAIL |
| 18:42.20 | riddlebox | but but......... |
| 18:42.58 | hardwire | you're a bad influence. |
| 18:44.02 | riddlebox | I am the bad influence? |
| 18:46.32 | ChannelZ | I am under the influence |
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| 18:53.23 | WindBack | Is there any known issue in asterisk 1.6.0.x related to hints |
| 18:53.25 | WindBack | ? |
| 18:53.44 | WindBack | I'm having a lots a problems using an spa932 |
| 18:54.34 | WindBack | If i do core show hints, I see all the time the channels monitored in status ringing/inUse |
| 18:54.37 | WindBack | any idea? |
| 18:54.57 | WindBack | I tryied it on 1.6.1.x and everything work fine |
| 19:00.47 | ChannelZ | search through the Changelog |
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| 19:03.50 | Zerocross | hi ppl |
| 19:04.17 | ChannelZ | hallo |
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| 19:08.08 | mchou | Is there a softphone (for windows) that works without registration to a SIP server? |
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| 19:09.27 | mchou | I'm helping a friend out with an operational sanity check w/o having him spend $ on HW yet |
| 19:09.57 | WindBack | Hi, I have a problem with my spa932 |
| 19:09.57 | WindBack | <WindBack> i think the problem is in the * configuration |
| 19:09.57 | WindBack | <WindBack> i created a hint for every extension i want to monitor |
| 19:09.58 | WindBack | <WindBack> when i call some of those extensions, i see the Busy lamp in my spa932 blinking |
| 19:09.58 | WindBack | <WindBack> but when i hung up this extension the busy lamp keep blinkig |
| 19:09.59 | WindBack | <WindBack> if i do, core show hints or sip show subscriptions on my asterisk CLI, I continue seeing the state inUse&Ringing |
| 19:10.02 | WindBack | <WindBack> The problem is that the asterisk server is sending a message to the spa932 whe the extension monitored is ringing or dialing, but asterisk never sends a message to the spa932 when the extension finish the call |
| 19:10.05 | WindBack | <WindBack> any idea?? |
| 19:11.05 | ChannelZ | mchou: Zoiper can make 'wild calls' with the sip:someone@somewhere syntax though you might have to configure a SIP account, even if it's not registered, just to make the program wake up. |
| 19:12.20 | mchou | ChannelZ: I just need the softphone to receive calls (i.e. get "dialed" by IP) |
| 19:13.12 | mchou | ChannelZ: making wild calls (w/o registration) is not yet a requirement :) |
| 19:14.00 | mchou | ChannelZ: yoo think Zoiper is capable of recieving calls w/o registration? |
| 19:14.01 | ChannelZ | hmm I don't think so |
| 19:14.54 | mchou | bah, that's too bad if that's indeed the case |
| 19:16.57 | ChannelZ | hmm.. well maybe it can, I just tried making a call from my * box and it's ringing |
| 19:17.30 | shido6 | receiving calls without registration |
| 19:17.31 | shido6 | ? |
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| 19:17.34 | ChannelZ | yeah |
| 19:17.52 | shido6 | Y? |
| 19:17.52 | mchou | ChannelZ: so that instance of Zoiper is not registered with any SIP server including *? |
| 19:17.52 | shido6 | Y do u want to do this? |
| 19:18.20 | mchou | shido6: sanity check w/o investing in HW or deploying * (yet) |
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| 19:18.44 | ChannelZ | mchou: yes, I do have accounts setup but none of them are connected.. made an extension on my * box to dial SIP/192.168.1.5/333 (the IP of my Windoze box and a bogus 333 extension) and dialed it from the console |
| 19:18.47 | shido6 | "sanity check" ? |
| 19:18.48 | mchou | shido6: helping a friend who is technically challenged |
| 19:19.12 | iarp | lol |
| 19:19.24 | *** part/#asterisk Zerocross (n=AS@d5152C011.static.telenet.be) |
| 19:19.43 | mchou | shido6: friend wants to see if voip will work for him (for real) |
| 19:20.13 | shido6 | I dont understand... reg it to a box |
| 19:20.21 | ChannelZ | now whether you could dial softphone-to-softphone like this I dunno (and I'm too lazy to go fire up another computer to try) but now I don't see why not |
| 19:20.21 | shido6 | reg it to my box |
| 19:20.23 | shido6 | :) |
| 19:20.23 | mchou | shido6: so need to take baby steps first b4 investing $/big chunk of time |
| 19:20.39 | shido6 | reg it to my box |
| 19:20.41 | ChannelZ | mchou: What is this really a test of? Bandwidth? |
| 19:20.50 | mchou | ChannelZ: hey, thx for checking out Zoiper |
| 19:21.21 | mchou | ChannelZ: proof of concept (for my friend) that Voip is "worthy" |
| 19:21.46 | mchou | I've been trying to go all out voip for business |
| 19:22.03 | drmessano | VoIP isn't worthy.. No way |
| 19:22.07 | mchou | he's been complaining about AT&T rates :) |
| 19:22.08 | drmessano | COPPER 4EVA |
| 19:22.20 | hudony | I'm trying, using call files, to parse a csv file in order to make successive calls. I'm doing that for a small compagnie so the number of phone number to dial will be around 15 (they are their own customers). This part is done. Quit easy. Now, each time the person called answer the call, one of the "agent" has to be notifiy with a "beep" that an automated call has been answerd and... |
| 19:22.21 | hudony | ...then, the call is automatically bridged |
| 19:22.27 | hudony | I have been trying to figure out how to achieve this but I'm not sure |
| 19:22.56 | ChannelZ | robodialers DIE DIE DIE |
| 19:22.57 | mchou | I've been trying to get HIM to go all out voip for business |
| 19:23.18 | drmessano | smells spam |
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| 19:26.20 | lesouvage | If I make a outbound call using a phone with extension 503 shouldn't that be the contact in the contact field of sip packages. something like 503@<my asterisk box> instead of <realm>@<my asterisk box>? |
| 19:26.36 | mchou | drmessano: well, he still has ato pay the AT&T toll for fax |
| 19:28.18 | ChannelZ | lesouvage: well the 'extension' is really a construct of the dialplan, it really has no meaning - what does your sip.conf look like for the phone making teh call? |
| 19:28.30 | drmessano | So does X-Lite on Linux still suck? |
| 19:28.47 | ChannelZ | I think X-Lite on anything sucks but to be fair I haven't tried it in awhile |
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| 19:29.16 | drmessano | X-lite runs very well on Windows |
| 19:29.24 | drmessano | Has since I can remember |
| 19:29.37 | ChannelZ | I couldn't get it to work, you'd click a digit and it would dial it like 5 seconds later |
| 19:29.58 | drmessano | Dunno, never had a problem with it |
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| 19:31.53 | drmessano | Guess I will install Ekiga |
| 19:32.00 | mchou | nah |
| 19:32.05 | mchou | twinkle is better |
| 19:32.23 | mchou | egika is missing stuff like conference or whatever |
| 19:32.56 | mchou | twinkle UI looks horrid but it actually works way better than ekiga |
| 19:33.25 | drmessano | Does it do video? |
| 19:33.39 | mchou | plus twinkle has better logging for debugging purposes |
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| 19:34.01 | mchou | drmessano: not sure, never tried |
| 19:34.44 | drmessano | Ubuntu switched to Empathy for Karmic, so far it's crashed 4 times on 2 machines |
| 19:34.50 | drmessano | Guess maybe Pidgin wasn't so bad |
| 19:35.09 | mchou | drmessano: hmm, just checked, dont think twinkle supports video |
| 19:35.13 | drmessano | ok |
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| 19:36.55 | drmessano | I thinkI realized something as profound about Linux as Asterisk |
| 19:37.44 | drmessano | As much as Asterisk is "poorly documented", Linux is worse.. So much old documentation on how to accomplish tasks that are now as simple as checkboxes on the right distro |
| 19:39.18 | mchou | drmessano: you mean just like voip-info.org? |
| 19:40.28 | drmessano | ~boschlawnmowers |
| 19:40.37 | infobot | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Bosch+lawnmowers .. "Same to you, buddy!" |
| 19:40.37 | drmessano | Hmm |
| 19:40.37 | drmessano | ~bosch |
| 19:41.37 | drmessano | That never gets old |
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| 19:42.09 | russellb | oic |
| 19:42.48 | drmessano | russellb: Thats sorta like the french revolution sentence on Wikipedia |
| 19:42.58 | drmessano | My testament to how edited the wiki really is |
| 19:43.53 | russellb | Hmm, I haven't done any wikipedia vandalism in a while |
| 19:43.55 | WindBack | what is more stable: 1.6.1.x or 1.6.0.x ?? |
| 19:46.05 | drmessano | "It's a little known fact that the french actually lost the french revolution" <-- my fav wikipedia vandalism |
| 19:48.41 | russellb | WindBack: 1.6.1 is newer and has more features. However, it will also be supported longer. |
| 19:48.50 | russellb | for a new install, i would choose 1.6.1 over 1.6.0. |
| 19:49.21 | drmessano | 1.6.1 resolved a few issues for me as well |
| 19:49.30 | jaytee | 1.6.17-rc2 works fine for me with DAHDI and T1 cards plus using SIP/TCP |
| 19:49.44 | jaytee | ooops. meant 1.6.1.7-rc2 |
| 19:49.55 | drmessano | One was a mystery problem with voicemail notifications |
| 19:50.20 | drmessano | So yeah, I like 1.6.1 |
| 19:50.33 | russellb | yay |
| 19:50.40 | russellb | 1.6.2 is very near. |
| 19:50.58 | WindBack | russellb: I hava a problem in 1.6.0.x related to hints and a linksys spa932. I try 1.6.1.x and every thing work fine. But it strange, because in 1.4 this feature works fine |
| 19:51.00 | russellb | like, we could probably do it from astricon if we felt like it |
| 19:51.12 | russellb | that is certainly odd. |
| 19:51.23 | russellb | i guess 1.6.1 is your answer :-) |
| 19:51.53 | shido6 | mumbles... "cooomoncompactflashcooomoncompactflashdontfailmenow cooomoncompactflashcooomoncompactflashdontfailmenow trixboxonepiagodshearme" |
| 19:51.59 | WindBack | russellb: :) |
| 19:52.05 | drmessano | WindBack: My problem was Linksys devices |
| 19:52.26 | WindBack | russellb: what is the correct way to update asterisk from the source? |
| 19:52.40 | WindBack | drmessano: what is your problem |
| 19:52.41 | WindBack | ? |
| 19:52.50 | drmessano | Where do you want me to start? |
| 19:52.56 | mchou | lol |
| 19:53.30 | drmessano | I'm tired, irritable, underpaid, my lungs hurt, my ass is too big, I have a headache, my socks are untied, im hungry.. umm |
| 19:53.39 | drmessano | Oh, you meant with the phones |
| 19:54.08 | shido6 | socks are untied |
| 19:54.10 | ChannelZ | How do you tie your socks? |
| 19:54.11 | shido6 | man |
| 19:54.17 | mchou | lol |
| 19:54.20 | shido6 | definitely a problem |
| 19:54.33 | mchou | no, untied socks==good |
| 19:54.39 | drmessano | Voicemail notifications were a one off deal.. I would get an indication only on reload or restart, it would go out after 20 mins, and never again until reload/restart |
| 19:54.48 | mchou | ie, not a problem :) |
| 19:54.58 | WindBack | drmessano: in my case the problem is in asterisk. Because a see the hint changing the sate to ringing/Inuse when the phone is in use and the asterisk send the notify to the extesnison which monitors, buy then, when the call finish asterisk never send the notfiy to the extensions which monitors the channel |
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| 19:55.37 | drmessano | I think notify is BAHORRIDLY broken in 1.6.0.x |
| 19:55.53 | mchou | this sucks |
| 19:56.00 | WindBack | drmessano: BAHORRIDLY??? |
| 19:56.05 | drmessano | Have someone else complaining of weird issues with SPA-942s doing one thing and SPA-962s doing another, where they both worked on 1.4 |
| 19:56.36 | mchou | I just found out my system sucks around 85-9W of power |
| 19:56.53 | WindBack | drmessano: what is BAHORRIDLY?? |
| 19:56.55 | drmessano | 85-9W, what fuckin unit of measure is that? |
| 19:57.05 | mchou | umm, 90* |
| 19:57.06 | drmessano | WindBack: Horridly, but worse |
| 19:57.24 | drmessano | Like, BAFUNNY = More than funny |
| 19:57.41 | WindBack | drmessano: so you say that 1.6.0.x have problems regarding NOTIFY messages? |
| 19:58.17 | drmessano | WindBack: It would seem like that is exactly what I am saying |
| 19:58.34 | drmessano | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=BAFUNNY <-- My only contribution to UD that made it |
| 19:59.11 | shido6 | how accurate is http://mundy.org/whereub/ ? |
| 20:00.12 | jaytee | works for me |
| 20:01.00 | mchou | damn, that's spot on for me |
| 20:01.05 | mchou | that's scary |
| 20:01.13 | shido6 | excellent |
| 20:01.16 | shido6 | cackles |
| 20:01.20 | mchou | looks for black helicopters |
| 20:01.42 | shido6 | they arent black anymore |
| 20:02.05 | mchou | what colors are they now? |
| 20:02.15 | ChannelZ | green |
| 20:02.20 | shido6 | almost translucent |
| 20:02.25 | mchou | jolly green giant? |
| 20:03.43 | ChannelZ | green like they run on green energy and hope and change and fairy dust |
| 20:03.58 | mchou | dude, I'm not joking...that's totally spot on for me |
| 20:04.15 | mchou | like I zoom in and see my House! |
| 20:04.40 | mchou | no joke |
| 20:04.52 | ChannelZ | that site thinks I'm in Cortez CO. I am not, |
| 20:05.11 | mchou | ChannelZ: heh, you're safe then :) |
| 20:05.49 | ChannelZ | Sweet. Let the bombing commence! |
| 20:06.07 | mchou | I aint worried about bombs |
| 20:06.09 | p3nguin | It's close for me, but not precise. 'Bout 25 miles away. |
| 20:06.13 | mchou | gitmo! |
| 20:06.39 | drmessano | 15 miles from me |
| 20:07.07 | p3nguin | It thinks I'm in the city where the fiber terminates. |
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| 20:08.04 | drmessano | Mine is not even close |
| 20:08.06 | mbrevda | anyone familiar with the audiocodes mp-114? |
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| 20:09.31 | radic | if I let asterisk say the time it mean's it's 20:08 |
| 20:09.34 | mchou | so is the windows asterisk verions usable? |
| 20:09.46 | mchou | version* |
| 20:09.56 | radic | I'm in GMT+2 |
| 20:09.57 | ChannelZ | ugh, why even try? |
| 20:10.09 | mchou | ChannelZ: cause of said friend |
| 20:10.31 | mchou | ChannelZ: I dont want to support him on linux |
| 20:10.34 | mchou | :) |
| 20:11.02 | mchou | ChannelZ: I'd not get any sleep |
| 20:11.17 | ChannelZ | I'm not sure you want to support him on windows either |
| 20:11.26 | ChannelZ | give him Skype and go to bed |
| 20:11.28 | mchou | ChannelZ: true dat |
| 20:11.36 | mchou | screw skype |
| 20:11.51 | mchou | ChannelZ: have you tried skype? |
| 20:11.53 | drmessano | AsteriskWin32 is a joke |
| 20:11.56 | ChannelZ | yes |
| 20:12.02 | mchou | it sucks rocks in so many ways |
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| 20:12.11 | drmessano | Skype does the job its intended to do |
| 20:12.19 | ChannelZ | the UI is not my favorite but it works |
| 20:12.39 | mchou | dude, I aint even taling about that part |
| 20:12.44 | mchou | talking* |
| 20:12.52 | drmessano | NO, HE AINT |
| 20:12.55 | drmessano | NUH UH |
| 20:13.09 | ChannelZ | cranks his neck back and forth |
| 20:13.19 | drmessano | snaps in a Z |
| 20:13.22 | mchou | i tried to pay them with credit card and they wouldnt even take my money |
| 20:13.48 | drmessano | hmmm |
| 20:13.51 | mchou | this was back in the days wher you get unlimited calling in NA for $15/yr |
| 20:13.57 | mchou | where* |
| 20:14.07 | mchou | maybe 3-4 yrs ago |
| 20:14.57 | mchou | and then there were the incessant disconnects during mid conversation |
| 20:15.07 | drmessano | Are you one of those weird bitter fuckers that goes to walmart and has a bad experience with a greeter, so hasnt gone back in 5 years, no plans to go back ever, even for an emergency roll of toilet paper? |
| 20:15.50 | mchou | drmessano: dude, I havent even warmed up yet |
| 20:16.06 | drmessano | mchou: My multiple personalities want to gang up on you |
| 20:16.11 | ChannelZ | Here's all I can say; it sounds like you're trying to get someone to embrace VoIP who is predisposed to hate it and doesn't know what he's doing. So Asterisk, on any platform, is probably not a smart choice, if this person is going to be the one running it |
| 20:16.51 | mchou | ChannelZ: the friend isnt stupid |
| 20:17.08 | ChannelZ | It's like the people who come in here saying "help me fix my system", but aren't in front of the computer, don't know what devices they have, and won't tell you anything about how it's configured |
| 20:17.36 | mchou | ChannelZ: umm, what gave you that impression? |
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| 20:17.47 | WindBack | where i can read the correct way to update asterisk from the source?? |
| 20:18.00 | ChannelZ | ./configure ; make ; make install |
| 20:18.00 | drmessano | WindBack: Uninstall and reinstall |
| 20:18.13 | drmessano | WindBack: Remove ALL modules compiled from 1.6.0.x |
| 20:18.17 | mchou | ChannelZ: just got to lead the guy to water is all |
| 20:18.24 | WindBack | drmessano: make uninstall and then make install |
| 20:18.28 | WindBack | ? |
| 20:18.40 | shido6 | you deploy the version in question on your dev server leaving production alone. |
| 20:18.48 | drmessano | make uninstall, REMOVE THE MODULES, and REINSTALL |
| 20:19.00 | drmessano | 1.6.0 to 1.6.1.x went fine |
| 20:19.01 | p3nguin | Ordinarily, you should be using a package which makes upgrading so much easier. |
| 20:19.02 | mchou | ChannelZ: I dont hold anything against my friend just because he's never seen a linux system up close and personal |
| 20:19.20 | WindBack | drmessano: what do you mean by REMOVE THE MODULES? |
| 20:19.30 | mchou | ChannelZ: it doesnt imply he's incompetent |
| 20:20.03 | drmessano | WindBack: Deleted all the modules from the modules directory |
| 20:20.39 | drmessano | WindBack: Asterisk will not remove modules it didnt install itself |
| 20:20.44 | *** part/#asterisk lunaphyte_ (n=lunaphyt@unaffiliated/lunaphyte) |
| 20:20.53 | drmessano | WindBack: Those will eff you like a bad night in jail |
| 20:21.56 | WindBack | drmessano: If asterisk didnt install those modules, who did it? |
| 20:22.08 | drmessano | YOU would have |
| 20:22.21 | drmessano | or asterisk-addons |
| 20:22.53 | hardwire | WindBack: the computer did it behind your back. |
| 20:23.00 | ChannelZ | or fairys |
| 20:23.14 | WindBack | drmessano: I just installed libpri, dahdi and dahdi tools and nothing else? |
| 20:23.15 | hardwire | AI will destroy us all. |
| 20:23.42 | mchou | ChannelZ: but if you know of a good Skype ATA I'm sure my friend wouldn't be adverse to the concept |
| 20:23.46 | drmessano | WindBack: This is way too much dialog for such a simple fuckin task.. remove asterisk, clear the modules directory, reinstall |
| 20:24.03 | drmessano | We dont need two hours of chatter for modules.. jsut make sure its empty |
| 20:24.18 | drmessano | Christ, lets pick through tmp and figure out who put all that shit there |
| 20:24.30 | hardwire | WindBack: check out checkinstall |
| 20:24.38 | WindBack | drmessano: ok, ok, just let me know in what directory is those modules? |
| 20:24.47 | hardwire | it will show you what install/autoconf based software will install |
| 20:24.58 | hardwire | therefore letting you know whats going on when an install happens. |
| 20:25.00 | hudony | I'm trying, using call files, to parse a csv file in order to make successive calls. I'm doing that for a small compagnie so the number of phone number to dial will be around 15 (they are their own customers). This part is done. Quit easy. Now, each time the person called answer the call, one of the "agent" has to be notifiy with a "beep" that an automated call has been answerd and... |
| 20:25.01 | hardwire | if you doubt us. |
| 20:25.02 | hudony | ...then, the call is automatically bridged |
| 20:25.05 | hudony | I have been trying to figure out how to achieve this but I'm not sure |
| 20:25.24 | ChannelZ | mchou: I'm officially staying out of your problem because I clearly don't understand the end goals. First it was 'can softphones call each other without a server to register to so I can help someone' |
| 20:25.26 | hudony | Anyone can help me? |
| 20:25.54 | ChannelZ | mchou: Now it's 'Does Asterisk for Windows work' and hooking shit up to actual phones. |
| 20:26.11 | hardwire | hudony: what do you have so far? |
| 20:26.28 | mchou | ChannelZ: what's wrong with that progression? |
| 20:26.57 | mchou | ChannelZ: the dude wants to try out voip without HW first |
| 20:27.21 | mchou | ChannelZ: he only has experience with windows |
| 20:27.26 | ChannelZ | there's nothing wrong with it. Have fyn |
| 20:27.29 | ChannelZ | fun even |
| 20:28.27 | mchou | ChannelZ: right. that's why I don't understand why you think the dude is incompetent |
| 20:28.40 | drmessano | WindBack: cat /etc/asterisk/asterisk.conf | grep -e astmoddir |
| 20:29.38 | p3nguin | grep -e astmoddir /etc/asterisk/asterisk.conf |
| 20:29.44 | mchou | ChannelZ: the guy is probably 3x smarter than you are (and no, that's not an insult to you, it's just an indicator of how smart this guy is) |
| 20:29.47 | hardwire | hudony: normally you want to restrict the amount of calls based on agent availability.. otherwise |
| 20:29.48 | WindBack | drmessano: ok, perfect |
| 20:29.54 | hardwire | hudony: you the agentlogin function |
| 20:29.59 | WindBack | drmessano: /usr/lib/asterisk/modules |
| 20:30.02 | p3nguin | No need for cat if you're just grepping. |
| 20:30.23 | hardwire | it will constantly keep them on the line.. enable ackcall for them using agents.conf or the channel variable |
| 20:30.40 | drmessano | WindBack: Ok, there you go |
| 20:31.16 | ChannelZ | mchou: Then he can probably figure this stuff out by himself |
| 20:31.18 | hudony | hardwire: Ok, so I need to configure a queue |
| 20:31.28 | hudony | hardwire: in queues.conf |
| 20:31.40 | hardwire | hudony: yeh.. and add agents to it statically. |
| 20:31.46 | hardwire | then create agents in agents.conf reflecting that |
| 20:31.51 | ChannelZ | mchou: I did, and I'm 3x more stupid apparently |
| 20:32.11 | hardwire | and give those endpoints a dialplan context where they can log in and have their phone off hook the entire time they are logged in. |
| 20:32.12 | hudony | ok, thanks, I'll go read about that. Thx again for your help |
| 20:32.33 | drmessano | grep /etc/asterisk/asterisk.conf -e astmoddir <-- happy now? |
| 20:32.45 | hardwire | hudony: word. |
| 20:33.31 | hardwire | ChannelZ: I would have said "3x stupider".. I'm glad you didn't :) |
| 20:33.35 | p3nguin | drmessano: No, because options go before the file name. |
| 20:33.42 | mchou | ChannelZ: you know that old joke whether Bill Gates would spend the time to bend down to pick up $100 bill on the street? |
| 20:33.47 | p3nguin | grep -e PATTERN filename |
| 20:34.06 | drmessano | p3nguin: Same difference |
| 20:34.11 | p3nguin | not really |
| 20:34.12 | drmessano | p3nguin: Same output |
| 20:34.16 | p3nguin | perhaps |
| 20:34.17 | drmessano | Actually, yes |
| 20:34.34 | p3nguin | No, actually it's not the same, regardless if the output is the same. |
| 20:34.37 | mchou | ChannelZ: smarts and time to figure out asterisk are independent |
| 20:34.51 | drmessano | Same output = the same |
| 20:34.59 | p3nguin | false |
| 20:35.05 | mchou | regardless how smart someone is, time would still be required |
| 20:35.13 | mchou | ChannelZ: ^^^ |
| 20:35.41 | drmessano | p3nguin: Good luck with that one.. |
| 20:35.52 | mchou | ChannelZ: the problem is the guy doesnt have that much time |
| 20:36.18 | ChannelZ | Then maybe you should be charging him for yours |
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| 20:37.30 | mchou | ChannelZ: we've been buddies since middle school..... |
| 20:37.40 | p3nguin | drmessano: Good luck with POSIX saying you're wrong? What kind of response is that? |
| 20:38.08 | mchou | ChannelZ: I dont charge the guy for something that would take me 10 minutes tops :) |
| 20:38.33 | drmessano | p3nguin: You're the only one arguing with the output here |
| 20:38.36 | mchou | ChannelZ: that'd be in the "noise" |
| 20:42.45 | radic | has someone a idea how I get the correct time with sayunixtime()? |
| 20:43.30 | p3nguin | SayUnixTime(||ABdY \'digits/at\' IMp) |
| 20:43.34 | p3nguin | time and date |
| 20:43.45 | ChannelZ | tell it the right timezone |
| 20:44.16 | radic | ChannelZ: SayUnixTime(,CEST)? |
| 20:44.22 | radic | Sun Oct 11 22:46:52 CEST 2009 |
| 20:44.35 | p3nguin | Is that the right time? |
| 20:44.42 | radic | yes |
| 20:44.51 | p3nguin | Seems off a couple minutes. |
| 20:45.09 | radic | and asterix is 2 houers after |
| 20:45.13 | p3nguin | (not that a couple minutes would make * say the wrong hour) |
| 20:45.24 | ChannelZ | what is CEST? Central? |
| 20:45.54 | radic | Central European S??? Time |
| 20:46.01 | hardwire | tandard |
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| 20:47.05 | p3nguin | I think it's Summer, actually. |
| 20:47.12 | ChannelZ | I see CET as a valid timezone but not CEST |
| 20:47.23 | p3nguin | CEST is European. |
| 20:47.44 | ChannelZ | yeah still |
| 20:47.49 | p3nguin | CEST - Central European Summer Time |
| 20:47.58 | hardwire | I think everybody should take a break for the day.. and go play with google. |
| 20:47.59 | ChannelZ | I don't see CEST in zoneinfo so I'm not sure if * would understand that either |
| 20:48.09 | p3nguin | http://www.timeanddate.com/library/abbreviations/timezones/eu/cest.html |
| 20:48.27 | radic | thx |
| 20:48.30 | radic | CET works |
| 20:49.00 | p3nguin | ANd will be an hour off. |
| 20:49.14 | ChannelZ | the clock on the computer probably isn't right either |
| 20:49.35 | p3nguin | It's right. |
| 20:49.48 | p3nguin | CEST is GMT+2. |
| 20:50.07 | hardwire | Cest \Cest\ (s[e^]st), n. [L. cestus: cf. OF. ceste.]: A woman's girdle; a cestus. [R.] --Collins. [1913 Webster] -gcide |
| 20:50.40 | ChannelZ | but has a daylight savings component |
| 20:50.50 | p3nguin | If CEST isn't working, try CEDT. They are the same time. |
| 20:51.35 | p3nguin | CET is the non-daylight-savings time, and CEST is the daylight-savings time. GMT+1 and GMT+2, respectively. |
| 20:53.01 | *** part/#asterisk StevenR (n=foo@wan1.sghs.org.uk) |
| 20:54.31 | ChannelZ | yah but at least in my distro CEDT and CEST aren't timezones |
| 20:54.52 | p3nguin | Maybe Europe/Paris is required instead? |
| 20:54.58 | ChannelZ | you could probably just use 'Europe/Paris' |
| 20:55.02 | ChannelZ | jinx |
| 20:55.41 | p3nguin | I never know whether to use CST6CDT or America/Chicago for my own tz. |
| 20:56.04 | p3nguin | I usually end up with the latter. |
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| 21:05.22 | Nugget | While we're being pedantic, CEST is UTC+2, not GMT+2 :) |
| 21:06.07 | p3nguin | And what, exactly, do you think the difference is between UTC and GMT? |
| 21:06.12 | Nugget | leap seconds |
| 21:06.44 | p3nguin | I'll have to look into this assertion. Perhaps you are correct. |
| 21:06.48 | Nugget | I am. |
| 21:07.05 | Nugget | Unless your an astronomer the difference is probably uninteresting, but it exists |
| 21:07.10 | Nugget | er, "you're" |
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| 21:07.57 | Nugget | I just wanted to jump onto the pedant bandwagon with both feet |
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| 21:08.42 | p3nguin | You're always welcome up here. I prefer to know when I'm mistaken. |
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| 22:04.16 | aurax | I'm having a weird problem with dahdi, it keeps panic my pbx kernel. i'm using 2.1.0.4 |
| 22:06.40 | riddlebox | still cannot get receive calls from teliax, iax or sip :( |
| 22:07.17 | riddlebox | aurax, did you update the kernel lately? |
| 22:20.56 | ChannelZ | riddlebox: firewall? |
| 22:21.50 | riddlebox | ChannelZ, it worked up until I switched to iax, then nothing, so I went back to my sip settings and the same thing, I get an error saying my number was disconnected |
| 22:22.02 | riddlebox | ChannelZ, but I am registered and can make calls |
| 22:23.12 | riddlebox | you know what just for the heck of it I will reboot the router and see if that fixes it |
| 22:23.49 | ChannelZ | so does that mean yes you are behind a firewall? |
| 22:25.19 | riddlebox | ChannelZ, I have a router with dd-wrt on it and my port 4569 is forwarded to my asterisk box |
| 22:25.34 | riddlebox | the asterisk box does not have a firewall on it |
| 22:26.32 | ChannelZ | so if the connection is registered and you are able to make outgoing calls, then this seems like a Teliax problem which I think was the same verdict from last week |
| 22:26.55 | ChannelZ | unless you are receving incoming connections and getting some other error preventing the call from completing |
| 22:27.23 | riddlebox | well I just did nmap of my IP and it does show 4569 state closed, so I will reboot and see if dd-wrt will open the port |
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| 22:30.04 | ChannelZ | so you said you can make calls, but can you actually hear the other end? |
| 22:30.14 | riddlebox | that would have been a clue except it was for tcp not udp |
| 22:30.31 | riddlebox | ChannelZ, I can make a call and talk to the person on the other end with no problems |
| 22:30.50 | ChannelZ | ok so it's not a port block |
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| 22:31.25 | ChannelZ | so what happens when someone calls you? They get ringing, nothing... |
| 22:31.29 | riddlebox | it just makes me mad, I have no response from them all weekend, how can a phone company not have anyone working on the weekends |
| 22:32.01 | riddlebox | ChannelZ, they get an error message, "I'm sorry that number is disconnected" |
| 22:32.40 | shido6 | u can always port your number away to a company that is open on sundau |
| 22:32.44 | riddlebox | I can give you the number and you can call it if you want, in my experience when you hear an error message, that means its not the pbx, but I am not sure |
| 22:33.21 | ChannelZ | well they are not a phone company and apparently have no SLA or way to contact them |
| 22:34.00 | riddlebox | yeah kinda scary, I like their concept of you have an account and you just charge that account when you use your minutes up |
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| 22:35.52 | ChannelZ | they didn't respond all last week either? Hasn't this been the same issue for awhile? |
| 22:35.54 | p3nguin | I was communicating with them via email for a few times, then one time he said he would let me know about something... I waited a month and never heard back. I emailed again, got to reply. Again, still no reply. I've waited several months for an answer. |
| 22:36.26 | p3nguin | got no reply, I meant |
| 22:36.57 | mchou | p3nguin: which provider is this? |
| 22:38.06 | p3nguin | Uhm, which one were we talking about? |
| 22:38.18 | ChannelZ | teliax |
| 22:38.30 | p3nguin | I think I just lied to you all. This happened to me with Vitelity. Sorry. |
| 22:38.48 | mchou | lol |
| 22:39.18 | ChannelZ | so they're all bollocks then |
| 22:39.19 | p3nguin | *shrug* |
| 22:39.24 | p3nguin | I guess so. |
| 22:39.30 | ChannelZ | :) |
| 22:40.33 | riddlebox | yeah we dont use the phone that much we spent $10 for 3 months of phone service |
| 22:40.48 | p3nguin | On the other hand, I called them (Vitelity) up about an issue and the guy said he would have to find out and call me back. He actually called me back within minutes. |
| 22:42.28 | mchou | I'm actually suprised these ITSPs offer support at all |
| 22:42.54 | mchou | they spend more than 3 minutes on your call there goes their profit margin :) |
| 22:43.00 | p3nguin | haha |
| 22:43.19 | mchou | no, im bein serious |
| 22:43.25 | mchou | being* |
| 22:43.30 | p3nguin | I know. that's the sad part. |
| 22:45.55 | ChannelZ | riddlebox: what country are you in |
| 22:47.01 | riddlebox | ChannelZ, USA |
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| 22:50.43 | ChannelZ | hmm.. so they seriously have no trouble ticket system? My friend is apparently using them for his business |
| 22:51.00 | ChannelZ | but maybe their 'residential' service is non-existent |
| 22:51.04 | mchou | ChannelZ: who you referring to? |
| 22:51.19 | ChannelZ | riddlebox/Teliax |
| 22:53.31 | p3nguin | I was going to use Teliax, then decided VoIP.ms was actually better suited to my needs. |
| 22:53.48 | Kobaz | what's interesting, is voip.ms is a vitelity reseller |
| 22:54.02 | p3nguin | I have an IAX2 trunk, but did use SIP. No problems with them. |
| 22:54.18 | dlewis | magic jack needs to come out with a linux driver or someone needs to figure out how to get MJ working again... |
| 22:54.58 | Kobaz | voip.ms marks up their minutes by about 1/4 cent |
| 22:55.14 | p3nguin | I pay less to voip.ms than I would to vitelity. |
| 22:55.50 | Kobaz | if you get the vitelity bulk pricing you get 0.80 cents a minute incoming |
| 22:55.56 | mchou | dlewis: hmm? |
| 22:55.57 | Kobaz | haven't used them for outgoing yet |
| 22:56.01 | riddlebox | ChannelZ, yeah Teliax |
| 22:56.11 | dlewis | mchou: magic jack... |
| 22:56.20 | Kobaz | p3nguin: you pay less than .8 cents? |
| 22:56.21 | mchou | dlewis: I thought magic jack worked on linux |
| 22:56.41 | riddlebox | ChannelZ, they have a ticket system you email them and they work on it monday-friday |
| 22:56.52 | dlewis | mchou: from what I've heard and from what I've seen via posts, it isn't anymore. |
| 22:56.59 | riddlebox | mchou, I am testing magic jack right now, I use a fxo port with it |
| 22:57.26 | mchou | I've wondered about voice quality with MJ |
| 22:57.32 | Kobaz | riddlebox: the delay is pretty noticeable, when going from an ata, back to an fxo |
| 22:57.51 | riddlebox | mchou, yeah I am testing it out |
| 22:58.00 | p3nguin | kobaz: I don't resell, so I pay the regular rate of 1.05 cents/minute for termination, and 2.9 cents/minute on my toll-free DID. |
| 22:58.00 | mchou | I've never used MJ but checking out some fora there are complaints about quality |
| 22:58.20 | riddlebox | Kobaz, I dont have a delay, but I have some stuttering, I think it is because I have 1mb internet thoguh |
| 22:58.38 | riddlebox | I have read they will have linux drivers some day |
| 22:58.39 | Kobaz | riddlebox: of course you have a delay, any extra hop you go through it's going to add delay |
| 22:59.04 | dlewis | riddlebox: you're using it for just one phone, right? |
| 22:59.07 | Kobaz | going from a->b->c can't possibly be any less delay than going from a->c directly |
| 22:59.28 | riddlebox | dlewis, I have a few phones on the system |
| 22:59.43 | Kobaz | but my point was... heh... when i tried an fxo with a vonage ata, the delay was noticable... but if you don't have a bad delay.. that's good |
| 23:00.11 | dlewis | riddlebox: what's your topology? |
| 23:00.19 | riddlebox | Kobaz, the only delay I have is dialing seems to take a little longer |
| 23:00.49 | dlewis | riddlebox: and is it working right now? I've heard it isn't working. |
| 23:00.57 | riddlebox | dlewis, asterisk box with tdm card(1fxo 2fxs) and 6 sip phones |
| 23:01.23 | dlewis | and you have the MJ as a trunk? |
| 23:01.25 | riddlebox | I have a trunk through teliax, and the magic jack |
| 23:01.34 | mchou | hehe |
| 23:01.35 | dlewis | riddlebox: MJ is a trunk? |
| 23:01.40 | riddlebox | yes |
| 23:01.44 | mchou | there you go! |
| 23:01.52 | wonderworld | is there some polished party-line software available for use with asterisk? |
| 23:01.59 | dlewis | hmm |
| 23:02.05 | dlewis | I've heard it didn't work |
| 23:02.16 | dlewis | I guess maybe I should try it again |
| 23:02.16 | riddlebox | dlewis, what do you mean? |
| 23:03.08 | dlewis | I've heard the credentials change now... |
| 23:03.08 | dlewis | meaning you'd have to update your MJ credentials in the truck often. |
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| 23:03.12 | mchou | truck?? |
| 23:03.15 | riddlebox | ohh I dont know I have read that too, I have the magic jack on a xp machine and run the line out to my asterisk box to the fxo port |
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| 23:03.51 | mchou | wonders what riddlebox's electricity bill looks like |
| 23:03.55 | Kobaz | hah |
| 23:03.58 | Kobaz | sounds like an annoying setup |
| 23:04.06 | riddlebox | last month $179 |
| 23:04.14 | dlewis | truck = trunk |
| 23:04.19 | mchou | ouch |
| 23:04.41 | riddlebox | thats electric and gas together, that is cheap |
| 23:04.43 | Kobaz | mine's like 20 bucks |
| 23:04.44 | mchou | riddlebox: you'd bet better off going AT&T :) |
| 23:04.54 | mchou | be* |
| 23:05.13 | dlewis | riddlebox: that's a weird way of doing it |
| 23:05.21 | riddlebox | I figured I have a month to try out the magic jack and see how it was, I still have like 3 weeks |
| 23:05.43 | riddlebox | dlewis, why is that a weird way? |
| 23:05.43 | Kobaz | might as well run the windows asterisk, and save a boc |
| 23:05.44 | mchou | riddlebox: what?? Who gives you the money back? |
| 23:05.53 | riddlebox | mchou, radio shack |
| 23:06.08 | mchou | riddlebox: I head those MJ shysters just "disappear" |
| 23:06.22 | mchou | heard* |
| 23:06.28 | Kobaz | client of mine got a magicjack and had all kinds of problems and dumped it |
| 23:06.29 | riddlebox | the radio shack guy said I could bring it back if I didnt like it, in a month |
| 23:06.32 | dlewis | riddlebox: connecting MJ from one computer to another computer? |
| 23:06.53 | dlewis | riddlebox: very weird way of doing it. The original way was to sniff the MJ traffic to get your l/p, then entering that into the trunk information. |
| 23:06.57 | riddlebox | dlewis, how else will you do it, it goes against the TOA to do it the other way |
| 23:07.14 | dlewis | riddlebox: going against TOA is a seperate convo |
| 23:07.18 | dlewis | ;) |
| 23:07.26 | p3nguin | hehe |
| 23:07.36 | Kobaz | if the credentials are using md5 auth, how would sniffing help |
| 23:07.44 | mchou | dlewis: so what makes you think MJ is coming to linux? |
| 23:07.45 | riddlebox | dlewis, plus I have read it doesnt work anymore |
| 23:07.47 | jaytee | Radio Shack used use the slogan "You have questions? We've got answers!" back when they could maintain a staff of knowledgeable salespeople. Since the late 90's they had to change the slogan to "Yeah, we got stuff" |
| 23:07.58 | Kobaz | haha |
| 23:08.19 | dlewis | mchou: the owner said so, in an interview a few months ago |
| 23:08.35 | p3nguin | I worked at Radio Shack in the '90s and I remember changing TO that slogan. |
| 23:08.53 | mchou | "We got Stuff?" |
| 23:08.58 | p3nguin | no |
| 23:09.04 | dlewis | mchou: I assume they're figuring out a way to prevent systems like asterisk to use it for multiple phones/enterprise usage |
| 23:09.07 | mchou | I wasn't even aware that's RS slogan now |
| 23:09.34 | dlewis | Kobaz: from what I remember, it wasn't md5 |
| 23:09.38 | Kobaz | enterprise... magicjack... haha |
| 23:09.42 | mchou | lol |
| 23:09.47 | mchou | indeed |
| 23:10.06 | dlewis | Kobaz: you'd be surprised |
| 23:10.10 | Kobaz | i know |
| 23:10.10 | dlewis | what people will do |
| 23:10.11 | mchou | dlewis: I'd be supprised even if ONE channel worked well on MJ |
| 23:10.30 | dlewis | and enterprise is defined by the reader |
| 23:10.34 | dlewis | enterprise can be SMB |
| 23:10.41 | dlewis | mchou: it does |
| 23:10.43 | riddlebox | dlewis, we have a customer how uses MJ at every pc for their long distance, they have a cordless phone at every pc, then a pbx from us.. lol |
| 23:10.46 | dlewis | I had it for 3 months |
| 23:10.47 | dlewis | no issues |
| 23:10.50 | mchou | dlewis: considering the number of complaints I've read re MJ |
| 23:10.52 | Kobaz | like, getting an order for a t1 based pbx, and having the customer's IT Care company tell you the T1 signalling and everything.... and showing up and finding analog lines |
| 23:10.55 | Kobaz | that's surprising |
| 23:11.09 | dlewis | mchou: for the price, it's great |
| 23:11.27 | mchou | dlewis: dude, MJ looks like a Ponzi scheme |
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| 23:11.41 | riddlebox | mchou, thats why I decided to try it out for a month and see |
| 23:11.43 | dlewis | mchou: lol... possible |
| 23:11.44 | mchou | dlewis: rinda like Madoff |
| 23:11.53 | mchou | kinda* |
| 23:11.53 | dlewis | mchou: doubt it |
| 23:11.57 | dlewis | but you never know |
| 23:12.04 | mchou | doubt it??? |
| 23:12.07 | dlewis | as long as I didn't get charged over $20 a year, I was fine |
| 23:12.09 | Kobaz | they probably cut people off who use more than a hundred minutes a month |
| 23:12.22 | mchou | how the hell do you explain their business model? |
| 23:12.36 | dlewis | Kobaz: I've heard stories of people using asterisk getting there service cut |
| 23:12.45 | Kobaz | even at half a cent a minute... that's 4000 minutes a year |
| 23:12.56 | Kobaz | 333 minutes a month... and that's with no profit |
| 23:13.40 | riddlebox | I do like how cheap broadvoice is now, 15 bucks a month, but they have that setup fee for like 60 bucks |
| 23:13.50 | Kobaz | either somehow they found out how to pay .00001 cents a minute for their trunking... or someone is losing money somewhere bigtime |
| 23:14.03 | mchou | Kobaz: exactly |
| 23:14.23 | riddlebox | Kobaz, I think they are a big cullo |
| 23:14.28 | mchou | Kobaz: and there's no free lunch rule still applies even in bailouts :) |
| 23:14.50 | dlewis | riddlebox: $15 for unlimited? |
| 23:15.07 | dlewis | one I fix this CID issue with my cable provider, I'll be fine |
| 23:15.09 | riddlebox | dlewis, I think so |
| 23:15.13 | dlewis | $99 for phone/internet/cable |
| 23:15.22 | dlewis | riddlebox: I've only seen $17.99 |
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| 23:15.39 | riddlebox | dlewis, I tried that but they dont provide polarity switching when someone hangs up |
| 23:15.52 | Orbixx | Does anybody know of a program that can play back alaw files? |
| 23:15.52 | riddlebox | http://gigaom.com/2007/03/20/the-magic-behind-magicjack/ |
| 23:16.02 | Orbixx | (apart from Asterisk) |
| 23:16.04 | riddlebox | sox? |
| 23:16.27 | jaytee | Audacity |
| 23:16.55 | mchou | riddlebox: that's a crock of bull |
| 23:17.16 | mchou | riddlebox: that's no different than IPKall (or sipgate) |
| 23:18.31 | riddlebox | dont shoot the messenger ;) |
| 23:18.31 | mchou | riddlebox: settlement fees aint a perpetual motion machine |
| 23:18.31 | dlewis | riddlebox: don't see the $15 broadvoice |
| 23:18.31 | riddlebox | I just did a google search |
| 23:18.39 | p3nguin | dlewis: Do you remember back when MagicJack first came out? They advertised it as $30 for LIFE. |
| 23:18.46 | riddlebox | dlewis, sorry it is 17 |
| 23:18.53 | Kobaz | hehe |
| 23:18.55 | dlewis | p3nguin: yea... |
| 23:19.01 | dlewis | I was skeptical |
| 23:19.02 | mchou | p3nguin: yeah, PONZI scheme |
| 23:19.23 | mchou | p3nguin: I wonder what's ooma's business model too |
| 23:19.37 | dlewis | riddlebox: after charges $23.42... Plus add the $11.50 for BYOD and the initial charges ($100+) |
| 23:19.40 | dlewis | not worth it |
| 23:19.48 | riddlebox | dlewis, I know it sucks |
| 23:20.38 | mchou | ooma advertizes $200 (iirc) for life |
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| 23:21.19 | mchou | the question is WHO's life..... |
| 23:21.26 | mchou | ooma or yours :) |
| 23:22.07 | mchou | or maybe that's like Tivo's "lifetime subscription" |
| 23:22.21 | dlewis | can't use asterisk with ooma though |
| 23:22.27 | mchou | lifetime as defined by the life cycle of the HW |
| 23:23.10 | mchou | dlewis: I'm just saying....which business model you think holds water? |
| 23:23.18 | dlewis | ok |
| 23:23.27 | Kobaz | mchou: i like my buisness model i came up with when i graduated high school |
| 23:23.43 | mchou | Kobaz: do tell |
| 23:23.44 | Kobaz | there's just one part to it... |
| 23:23.56 | Kobaz | The model is... you get rich people... to give you their money |
| 23:24.06 | mchou | I'm rich, biatch! |
| 23:24.26 | Kobaz | and then the second part |
| 23:24.31 | Kobaz | but then the third part is profit |
| 23:24.46 | mchou | lol |
| 23:24.56 | Kobaz | i modified the plan, after seeing the successful model of the underpants gnomes |
| 23:25.31 | Kobaz | that second part is key |
| 23:25.41 | Kobaz | so actually there's three parts... there used to be just one |
| 23:25.59 | mchou | Kobaz: which part are you on now? |
| 23:26.07 | Kobaz | the first one :( |
| 23:26.29 | mchou | I rest my case :) |
| 23:27.39 | Kobaz | actually we're doing okay... during college i ran a gameserver hosting business for a little bit... and then after college i got a 'regular coding job' which was nice paying but boring... and then got involved with an asterisk startup... which blew up... and then now i have my own business with my brother... doing more asterisk and general coding and stuff |
| 23:28.03 | riddlebox | dlewis, I guess you could sign up for the BYOD for the first month then it would be 41.37, then after a month you could bump up to the 17.95 plan |
| 23:28.05 | dlewis | Kobaz: whereabouts? |
| 23:28.09 | Kobaz | dlewis: central pa |
| 23:28.17 | dlewis | ah, ok |
| 23:28.23 | Kobaz | was near albany ny |
| 23:28.43 | mchou | Kobaz: I didnt know Amish used asterisk :) |
| 23:28.49 | Kobaz | haha |
| 23:29.06 | Kobaz | there's actually some large hospital groups where doing some custom programming for |
| 23:29.33 | Kobaz | ut's a great market since you don't have the huge consulting firms like in nyc... and people just don't have a big supply of technology |
| 23:29.48 | Kobaz | we're |
| 23:29.52 | Kobaz | i should put my glasses back on |
| 23:30.35 | drmessano | Kobaz, I spoke to your brother and he told me the two of you run a fruit stand |
| 23:30.38 | drmessano | YOU LIE! |
| 23:30.46 | mchou | hehe |
| 23:30.48 | Kobaz | heh |
| 23:30.51 | dlewis | lol |
| 23:31.16 | Kobaz | those amish fruit stands pull in a few hundred bucks a day |
| 23:31.52 | drmessano | I was racking in that much when I could still swing my pimp cane |
| 23:32.17 | dlewis | and now drmessano is getting pimped |
| 23:32.24 | Kobaz | yeap |
| 23:32.48 | drmessano | Then one of them ho's stabbed me with a rusty screwdriver, and I collect a check from the govament |
| 23:33.02 | drmessano | sorry, 'govamet' |
| 23:33.24 | drmessano | So I went from pounding to asterisking |
| 23:33.29 | drmessano | Life is life |
| 23:33.32 | mchou | drmessano: were you the protagonist in "Hustle and Flow?" |
| 23:34.06 | drmessano | I should have sued that whole damn company.. they got it all wrong.. made up their own story |
| 23:34.11 | drmessano | I am far more hardcore |
| 23:34.45 | drmessano | They call it an "adaptation".. that was the nickname of my pimp cane |
| 23:34.58 | Kobaz | isn't the proper phase 'the guvbuhment' |
| 23:35.45 | drmessano | Shoot man, as long as I get my check, i'll call them "rhonda" if they want me to. |
| 23:36.00 | mchou | so here's the really sad part....I got a Kill-A-Watt power meter this week |
| 23:36.45 | mchou | I found out I was spending more on my electricity than I was saving not using AT&T :) |
| 23:36.50 | drmessano | Was your analog clamp-on ammeter busted? |
| 23:37.01 | mchou | running asterisk* |
| 23:37.20 | drmessano | What? |
| 23:37.34 | mchou | drmessano: dont have a n ammeter |
| 23:37.34 | drmessano | How much is that machine costing you? |
| 23:37.42 | drmessano | I have several |
| 23:38.36 | mchou | 90W, 24x7, at $0.14/KWH |
| 23:39.12 | mchou | granted I'm powering 3 phone lines with that |
| 23:39.37 | mchou | so it's not exactly an apples comparison with AT&T |
| 23:39.47 | drmessano | $3 a day? |
| 23:39.59 | drmessano | How much is your power bill? |
| 23:40.43 | mchou | around $200/mo, iirc |
| 23:40.50 | Kobaz | heh |
| 23:40.56 | drmessano | How many PCs do you have? |
| 23:41.03 | mchou | that includes gas though |
| 23:41.19 | mchou | only one that's on grid |
| 23:41.39 | drmessano | $90 a month of your power bill was that one PC? |
| 23:41.45 | drmessano | Check your meter |
| 23:42.15 | p3nguin | My power bill is barely more than that for everything I have. |
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| 23:43.10 | drmessano | I had 9 PC's working 24/7 here, at around $.07 and I know my power bill wasnt $270+ |
| 23:43.28 | file | yeah... that's a bit nuts |
| 23:43.41 | file | almonds even! |
| 23:43.53 | mchou | drmessano: umm, $90?? how you get that? |
| 23:43.53 | riddlebox | drmessano, I have usually 4-8 running and my electric bill only gets real high when its really hot out or really cold out |
| 23:43.54 | drmessano | Thats yogurt covered macadamia .. nuts |
| 23:43.59 | mchou | I think you misplaced your decimal point :) |
| 23:44.14 | drmessano | 14 cents per hour, x 24 is??? |
| 23:44.21 | drmessano | Oh |
| 23:44.27 | drmessano | Hmm.. I left off a () |
| 23:45.13 | drmessano | Rate is .14 per KWH and you're using 90W.. |
| 23:45.17 | drmessano | ok |
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| 23:46.23 | mchou | that's slightly more than $9/mo on electricity alone |
| 23:46.37 | drmessano | $9 a month, ok |
| 23:47.27 | drmessano | How much are you billing with your ITSP? We're still WAY off AT&T here |
| 23:47.49 | drmessano | Closer to that $90 mark :) |
| 23:48.13 | mchou | drmessano: one phone line with AT&T is ~$30 |
| 23:48.16 | file | drmessano: I present chocolate covered almonds myself. |
| 23:48.30 | file | present? prefer |
| 23:48.31 | drmessano | $30 a month?? |
| 23:48.46 | Kobaz | so what are you guys up to |
| 23:48.55 | drmessano | How the hell do you arrange that? |
| 23:49.01 | dlewis | mchou: for there POTS or "VOIP"? |
| 23:49.03 | Kobaz | comparing electric and running costs of the magicjack pc to getting a line from att? |
| 23:49.18 | mchou | Kobaz: lol |
| 23:49.32 | drmessano | Kobaz: Power bill for Asterisk + ITSP vs ATT |
| 23:49.37 | Kobaz | $90 a month to run a $15 a year phone line |
| 23:49.53 | drmessano | Last time I looked at ATT, it was $28 for a line |
| 23:49.56 | mchou | drmessano: what do you mean? I thought ATT local is $30 (or saw comcast) |
| 23:49.58 | drmessano | Plus fees, etc |
| 23:50.02 | mchou | say* |
| 23:50.21 | drmessano | ATT basic bill is well over $40 a month, if not more |
| 23:50.33 | p3nguin | not here. |
| 23:50.45 | drmessano | I know it was $90 for ATT + DSL, and the DSL was about $45 |
| 23:50.48 | Kobaz | here's how it goes... the 'line' is like 10 bucks... but then you get the local dialing package which is another 10 bucks... and then tack on 10 bucks in regulatory fees. and then another 5 bucks for three way calling and callerid, and then add tax.. and you're up to like $40 bucks |
| 23:50.59 | p3nguin | Last one I just paid was $32 and some change just for local phone service. |
| 23:51.16 | mchou | OK, forget ATT |
| 23:51.21 | mchou | say comcast phone |
| 23:51.34 | mchou | makes life simpler |
| 23:51.35 | p3nguin | I just set up my neighbor with AT&T local/l.d. + DSL for only $60.00/mo. |
| 23:51.39 | drmessano | Comcast is $39 a month for unlimited |
| 23:52.05 | drmessano | Thats LD and all |
| 23:52.12 | dlewis | Optimum Voice is $99 for cable/internet/phone for a year... It's just tough to get asterisk working with the OV line. |
| 23:52.12 | mchou | right |
| 23:52.14 | p3nguin | Yep. Unlimited ld. |
| 23:52.36 | p3nguin | and 1mbit DSL. |
| 23:53.39 | drmessano | 1mbit DSL is like $24, so value added that still puts the phone at $40 |
| 23:54.15 | hardwire | heh |
| 23:54.18 | drmessano | So running Asterisk you have $31 to play with after the power costs |
| 23:55.15 | mchou | yeah, so say you subscribe to callcentric |
| 23:55.20 | drmessano | Worst case, $24 unlimited from say Bandwidth.com.. |
| 23:55.38 | drmessano | Forget Callcentric, they're way overpriced |
| 23:55.40 | mchou | $19/mo + $9/DID |
| 23:55.55 | Kobaz | makes some dinner |
| 23:56.06 | drmessano | Thats not a realistic comparison,unless you want me to throw something douche in here like Vonage |
| 23:56.18 | Kobaz | let me know when you calculate the optimal cost/benefit of asterisk versus att |
| 23:56.26 | mchou | callcentric is vontage pricing |
| 23:56.48 | mchou | vontage is $25/mo, iirc |
| 23:56.51 | drmessano | Flowroute is $7 a month for unlimited inbound + DID, and 1 cent per minute out |
| 23:56.53 | Kobaz | and make sure you plot the costs over a 5 year rate of return and tco, versus inflation and market prices |
| 23:57.13 | drmessano | Kobaz: Are you done? |
| 23:57.16 | Kobaz | :P |
| 23:57.22 | Kobaz | goes to eat |
| 23:58.25 | drmessano | So $24 gives me 2400 mins I can play with termination-wise |
| 23:59.05 | drmessano | If I want to spend all $31 |
| 23:59.06 | mchou | drmessano: so you use flowroute? |
