| 00:00.10 | click | Name/username Host Dyn Nat ACL Port Status |
| 00:00.11 | click | 0 sip peers [Monitored: 0 online, 0 offline Unmonitored: 0 online, 0 offline] |
| 00:01.29 | ectospasm | you may need to adjust asterisk.conf appropriately for GUI use. I dunno, I've never installed them as separate packages. |
| 00:01.31 | ectospasm | Gotta go. |
| 00:03.15 | click | well, as far as i understood it, users.conf should be loaded by default, and end in the 'default' group |
| 00:03.36 | click | i'll snoop around a bit more - i'm most probably missing something simply :) |
| 00:03.38 | click | *simple |
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| 00:38.33 | jaytee | oh, fer fucks sake, farkus. just log off already |
| 00:40.31 | drmessano | ~kick farkus |
| 00:40.32 | infobot | ACTION kicks farkus |
| 00:40.36 | drmessano | ~ban farkus |
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| 00:50.41 | Qwell | you know you guys could have just said my name :p |
| 00:51.55 | jaytee | ah, hell, you've got plenty to keep you busy. didn't want to pester ya. besides, it was actually kind of amusing and lame at the same time watching his connection bounce. |
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| 00:52.03 | elitecoder | What variable holds the number currently being dialed? |
| 00:52.17 | jaytee | ${EXTEN} |
| 00:52.21 | elitecoder | I'm using a call file t.. ok |
| 00:52.23 | elitecoder | thaaaanks |
| 00:52.37 | jaytee | I think there's a book out there about Asterisk that mentions it :-) |
| 00:53.03 | elitecoder | yeah i'l read a few and see if it comes up |
| 00:53.04 | elitecoder | LOL |
| 00:55.25 | click | hohum. |
| 00:55.34 | click | ok, this makes my head spin :P |
| 00:57.34 | click | how does the webgui handle/create extensions? created 6001 as an extension/user, and it stuffs that into users.conf - for some reason asterix doesn't read it, nor do i get the extension to work... :P |
| 00:58.13 | click | works if i stuff the same thing into sip.conf and extensions.conf - it just doesn't use users.conf for anything it seems :P |
| 00:59.23 | KyleK | its possible that webgui doesn't match the version of asterisk you're running |
| 01:00.02 | click | hm, might be - running svn of asterisk-gui, and 1.6.1.0 of asterisk |
| 01:00.35 | click | still doesn't explain how users.conf comes into play, shouldn't it do that automagically? |
| 01:01.52 | KyleK | dunno |
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| 01:17.06 | hohum | click: ? |
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| 01:18.55 | click | oh, haha - didn't see that someone had that nick :) my apologies |
| 01:19.12 | click | it was "hohum" as in thinking :) |
| 01:20.48 | hohum | ;) |
| 01:21.24 | elitecoder | Hey guys, is there a way to get the number being dialed in the 'failed' extension? {EXTEN} == failed, in there. |
| 01:22.56 | jaytee | are you trying to set the value of "failed" to whatever is in ${EXTEN} ? |
| 01:23.15 | elitecoder | Nah, I'm trying to pass the number being dialed to an AGI script |
| 01:23.25 | elitecoder | so it can update something in a database, based on the phone number dialed |
| 01:25.07 | jaytee | well, does your AGI script support arguments? you can pass arguements to an AGI script using the AGI() command in the dialplan. |
| 01:25.20 | elitecoder | Yeah... |
| 01:25.28 | elitecoder | I can PASS variables fine |
| 01:25.32 | elitecoder | but first I need to know what the variable is |
| 01:25.38 | elitecoder | I tried EXTEN and that's not the right one :) |
| 01:25.45 | jaytee | it's not EXTEN |
| 01:26.42 | jaytee | it's ${EXTEN} and if you want to pass something try setting another variable to whatever the current value of ${EXTEN} is with the Set() app. like Set(somedamnVAR=${EXTEN} |
| 01:26.50 | jaytee | oops, forgot the closing ) |
| 01:27.08 | elitecoder | exten => failed, n, AGI(/var/www/autodialer/log_failure.php, ${EXTEN}, ${REASON}) |
| 01:27.57 | elitecoder | exten wont be what was dialed, I'm doing this with call files and it goes to [autodialer] s, 1 |
| 01:28.33 | jaytee | yeah, sorry but I haven't worked much with call files and AGI scripts, especially ones written in PHP. |
| 01:28.43 | elitecoder | lang doesn't matter |
| 01:28.56 | elitecoder | thx for trying... hmm |
| 01:29.02 | jaytee | it does to me! I'm having enough trouble with perl and I'm already suicidal |
| 01:30.14 | elitecoder | haha |
| 01:30.21 | elitecoder | yeah not fun if you don't already know the language |
| 01:30.26 | elitecoder | plus learning asterisk is a bit of a bitch at first |
| 01:30.38 | elitecoder | the style of programming is sooooo different |
| 01:30.39 | jaytee | that's where the book comes in handy |
| 01:35.20 | mmlj4 | if you know PHO, then use PHP |
| 01:35.37 | mmlj4 | no way I'd struggle with a language I didn't know |
| 01:35.46 | mmlj4 | PHP works, there's a page for that on the wiki |
| 01:35.50 | mmlj4 | and it's in the book |
| 01:36.20 | elitecoder | hmm damn channgel gives me OutgoingSpoolFailed |
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| 01:37.37 | elitecoder | ok the wiki explains how to do what i need |
| 01:37.44 | elitecoder | I have to pass the number in the call file in a variable |
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| 01:44.46 | b14ck | writing code in any language to make use of asterisk is easy |
| 01:44.59 | b14ck | you are basically just printing to the command line |
| 01:45.13 | b14ck | AGI scripts do that :) |
| 01:46.07 | elitecoder | yeah |
| 01:46.13 | elitecoder | but I'm avoiding that crap |
| 01:46.22 | b14ck | what are you doing exactly? |
| 01:47.57 | elitecoder | Makin an autodialer |
| 01:48.06 | elitecoder | php throws a bunch of .call files into the outgoing folder |
| 01:48.14 | b14ck | cool |
| 01:48.20 | elitecoder | if the call fails it goes to the failed extn buttttt i need the $ |
| 01:48.29 | elitecoder | I found info on it in the wiki |
| 01:48.30 | b14ck | what do you mean? |
| 01:48.43 | elitecoder | you'll have to be more specific im tired |
| 01:48.47 | elitecoder | and my eyes bug me cause of the fan |
| 01:48.48 | b14ck | The easiest way to direct it to an extension is to use the Context: filed in the call file |
| 01:48.55 | b14ck | *field |
| 01:49.07 | elitecoder | I use it |
| 01:49.15 | elitecoder | not sure what you're getting at buddyboo |
| 01:49.33 | b14ck | I'm not sure either, I thought you were having a problem with the code or something. |
| 01:49.55 | elitecoder | nuh uh |
| 01:50.01 | elitecoder | that was osmoene else |
| 01:50.13 | b14ck | ok |
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| 02:04.40 | elitecoder | eh what's the right way to do this? exten => s, 1, Verbose(1|Dialing ${PassedNumber}) |
| 02:04.54 | elitecoder | I'm trying to get it to print the passed number |
| 02:05.00 | elitecoder | and th eline... doesn't appear to be printed |
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| 02:36.30 | KyleK | elitecoder: PassedNumber? |
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| 03:37.00 | heison | hello.... |
| 03:37.13 | heison | have anyone heard of Vercom? |
| 03:46.36 | [TK]D-Fender | elitecoder: First you should be using "," as a separator, no "|", next you need to be at verbos 1 or higher to see that |
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| 04:00.59 | dshap | hey would anyone be willing to help me figure out why my outgoing calls aren't working anymore? they were working and then i tried to add a new SIP trunk to my sip.conf file and then neither of my 2 trunks worked. at this point i'm just trying to get my original one to work again. sip.conf is at http://pastebin.com/d37a2d04d and SIP DEBUG of the call attempt is at http://pastebin.com/d208c5a59 |
| 04:01.41 | dshap | i'm successfully registering with the SIP provider |
| 04:02.13 | dshap | im pretty sure my IP did change but i changed sip.conf externip to reflect that |
| 04:03.50 | dshap | and incoming calls work fine |
| 04:06.34 | drmessano | Where is extensions.conf? |
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| 04:08.14 | dshap | sorry i forgot to mention, i'm using a very simple call file that just uses Playback() with one of the stock audio files |
| 04:08.21 | dshap | not using any extensions |
| 04:08.58 | dshap | here's the call file: http://pastebin.com/d78263674 |
| 04:09.27 | dshap | this was working no prob until i decided to fuck with sip.conf to try to add another provider |
| 04:09.36 | dshap | i have no idea what changed |
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| 04:14.21 | dshap | god this is so frustrating |
| 04:17.13 | elitecoder | KyleK: It's a variable I set from a call file. I have it all worked out now. |
| 04:17.21 | dshap | is this a problem on my provider's end? |
| 04:27.12 | dshap | drmessano: any ideas? |
| 04:30.20 | KyleK | check the non voipms section for "voipms"? |
| 04:34.49 | dshap | that's my entire sip.conf |
| 04:34.54 | dshap | i took the non-voipms section out |
| 04:34.59 | dshap | dunno why it stopped working |
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| 04:59.30 | rue_grrr | asdf |
| 05:02.11 | elitecoder | In asterisk 1.4, how does one go about getting AMD installed? |
| 05:02.22 | elitecoder | have to do this? |
| 05:02.23 | elitecoder | Install and load app_amd.c via '/usr/src/asterisk/contrib/scripts/astxs -install -autoload app_amd.c |
| 05:03.02 | elitecoder | hmm i don't appear to have astxs |
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| 05:09.18 | elitecoder | hmm nevermind. apparently it's already setup for mine |
| 05:09.20 | elitecoder | in ubuntu |
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| 05:12.27 | joelsolanki | Hi friends |
| 05:12.59 | joelsolanki | can anyone recommend the solutions for doing fax when asterisk is in between. i want to use T38. |
| 05:13.33 | joelsolanki | i tried pass thru using asterisk 1.4 but didnt work |
| 05:13.42 | joelsolanki | so wanted to test some working deployement |
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| 05:43.24 | rue_more | asterisk isn't picking up on the call features I programmed at work, *0 is supposed to wink the dahdi channel |
| 05:43.35 | rue_more | ideas on switches I might have missed? |
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| 06:33.43 | sprite-- | What's the minimum digits for a phone number including country code? 10? |
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| 07:13.31 | Qwell | sprite--: minimum? 2? |
| 07:13.57 | Qwell | it's not that easy |
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| 07:24.44 | XiXaQ | is it possible to setup a reliable push-to-talk feature for Nokia phones using Asterisk yet? I've been searching for this on Google, but all results seem quite old. |
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| 07:39.11 | sprite-- | Qwell: I mean for regular numbers, not special ones.... |
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| 07:43.21 | the_5th_wheel | Hi. I have a Zplex channel bank connected to a digium t1 card. I have made a crossover cable, but as soon as I conect it, I get HDLC aborts for africa. Can anyone help me troubleshoot this? |
| 07:44.01 | the_5th_wheel | I have tried this with two seperate channelbanks, with no avail |
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| 08:36.19 | brunner | what's the most common ISDN switch type in the US? |
| 08:36.53 | brunner | 4ess? 5ess? dms100? ni? |
| 08:36.59 | brunner | I somehow doubt it's dms100 |
| 08:40.55 | SwK | brunner, roll the dice on the carrier you are using... but ni is getting more and more common with ni2 right behind due to the added features |
| 08:41.41 | brunner | hmm |
| 08:41.42 | tzafrir_laptop | downloads.asterisk.org down ? |
| 08:41.52 | brunner | any given switch can only support one "switch type", right? |
| 08:42.18 | brunner | I mean, it's not possible that a telephone switch would support 5ess *and* ni, right? |
| 08:43.45 | SwK | well that all depends on what switch the end office is using and what software load they have on it but PRIs are software running on top of a T1 or E! |
| 08:43.53 | SwK | s/E!/E1/ |
| 08:44.31 | SwK | but its not uncommon to see them support 2 or 3 protocols |
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| 08:46.08 | brunner | cool |
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| 08:51.31 | tzafrir_laptop | downloads.asterisk.org seems to be back on-line |
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| 09:00.31 | brunner | SwK: if I'm concerned about receiving the ANI as well as the CID, are all of the ISDN protocols equally suited to passing that data? |
| 09:04.20 | SwK | nope |
| 09:04.41 | SwK | when you say CID are you refering to the number or the name? |
| 09:04.47 | brunner | number |
| 09:04.55 | SwK | then any of them should work |
| 09:05.04 | brunner | okay |
| 09:05.20 | SwK | if you want name for instance you would want NI2 over NI |
| 09:06.10 | SwK | but then again it really depends on what ${crappy_clec} or ${crappy_rboc} whats to give you |
| 09:07.35 | brunner | got it |
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| 11:59.43 | the_5th_wheel | Hi. I have a Zplex channel bank connected to a digium t1 card. I have made a crossover cable, but as soon as I conect it, I get HDLC aborts for africa. Can anyone help me troubleshoot this? |
| 11:59.48 | the_5th_wheel | I have tried this with two seperate channelbanks, with no avail |
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| 12:39.36 | timeshell | Happy |
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| 13:27.54 | sHoZaIb | hello there .. can any 1 help me out with this .... http://pastebin.com/d80c3af8 |
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| 13:49.15 | Kevin` | how can I get asterisk to report the number of voicemails to an sip based phone? |
| 13:52.38 | [TK]D-Fender | Kevin`: normal VMI does this already |
| 13:55.55 | Kevin` | well that helped for google at least, apparently need mailbox= in sip config |
| 13:56.14 | [TK]D-Fender | Kevin`: Indeed you do so * knows what box to monitor |
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| 14:45.30 | leifmadsen | ummmm..... cap |
| 14:45.32 | leifmadsen | .crap. |
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| 14:50.55 | jaytee | whoa! what'd I miss? |
| 14:51.41 | jaytee | .crap is awesome! I used to code in .net but since I switched to .crap coding has never been easier! |
| 14:56.28 | [TK]D-Fender | WHO LET THE DOGS OUT?! |
| 14:56.59 | jaytee | haha |
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| 15:42.01 | xphree | anyone here has experience with a2billing? i'm having a problem.. when a sip client hang up the call the system doesnt charge, but when the other side hang up the call the system charges the rate.. anyone has any idea about this problem? |
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| 16:44.48 | martyn-dev | Hellooo asterisk users :) |
| 16:45.49 | martyn-dev | do you know something about ast_carefulwrite: write() returned error: Broken pipe ERROR in Agi execution on Asterisk 1.4.24 ? |
| 16:45.50 | martyn-dev | :D |
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| 17:06.57 | leifmadsen | if I have something like this: NoOp($[$[1] & $[1]]) should that not return 1? |
| 17:07.06 | ctooley | I can't get cdr's out of Asterisk from calls that are started via Manager Originate |
| 17:07.29 | leifmadsen | hmmmm and it does |
| 17:07.41 | Qwell | leifmadsen: break it down - does $[1 & 1] return 1? |
| 17:07.42 | leifmadsen | I must have a typo in this line somewhere.... |
| 17:07.56 | Qwell | or that :D |
| 17:08.01 | leifmadsen | Qwell: yes it does -- the line is more complicated than the example I showed, but both independently show '1' |
| 17:08.27 | leifmadsen | exten => check_status,n,NoOp($[$["${Q_LOGGED_IN}" = "" | "${Q_LOGGED_IN}" = "0"] & $["${Q_EXTEN}" = "all]]) |
| 17:08.49 | leifmadsen | returns 0, even though if I break out the two inside ones separately, they return 1 each |
| 17:09.15 | Qwell | "all] ? |
| 17:09.40 | leifmadsen | yep, I just saw that too |
| 17:09.45 | leifmadsen | thanks |
| 17:09.56 | leifmadsen | I just removed the outer braces to see which one was wrong |
| 17:10.02 | leifmadsen | that should fix it |
| 17:10.04 | leifmadsen | stupid typos |
| 17:11.38 | leifmadsen | I think: ${FIELDQTY(myVar,^)} should still return 1 even if it doesn't find 2 fields (i.e. foo^var) and as long as myVar isn't NULL |
| 17:11.49 | leifmadsen | not 0 |
| 17:11.52 | leifmadsen | because there is a field |
| 17:11.53 | leifmadsen | just not 2 |
| 17:12.07 | leifmadsen | I think I'll file a bug |
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| 17:15.26 | Corydon76-dig | leifmadsen: it should already do that. What version are you using? |
| 17:15.37 | leifmadsen | 1.6.2 branch |
| 17:15.58 | leifmadsen | it seems to return 0 |
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| 17:17.18 | Corydon76-dig | It should only return 0 if the value of the string is blank |
| 17:17.41 | miller7 | is there a specific channel for bristuff and junghanns cards? |
| 17:18.35 | leifmadsen | Set("SIP/00085D182ACF-017cf7a0", "Q_AVAIL=7000") in new stack |
| 17:18.36 | leifmadsen | 3. Set(NUMBER_OF_QUEUES=${FIELDQTY(${Q_AVAIL},^)}) [pbx_config] |
| 17:18.56 | leifmadsen | Set("SIP/00085D182ACF-017cf7a0", "NUMBER_OF_QUEUES=0") |
| 17:21.08 | leifmadsen | Corydon76-dig: let me do some more digging to make sure I'm not using it wrong |
| 17:21.16 | miller7 | I have asterisk 1.4 compiled with quadbri support (bristuff). "dahdi show status" shows "quadBRI PCI ISDN Card 1 Span 1 [TE] (ca OK". I call my box and demo extensions.conf does not fire up. Should it answer and at least show the call coming in at CLI interface? |
| 17:21.55 | Corydon76-dig | leifmadsen: on trunk, it returns 1. |
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| 17:23.22 | leifmadsen | Corydon76-dig: with this? |
| 17:23.23 | leifmadsen | exten => 9999,1,Set(Q_AVAIL=7000^70001) |
| 17:23.24 | leifmadsen | exten => 9999,n,Set(NUMBER_OF_QUEUES=${FIELDQTY(${Q_AVAIL},^)}) |
| 17:24.14 | leifmadsen | oh I think I see what's wrong |
| 17:24.22 | Corydon76-dig | Yep! |
| 17:24.30 | leifmadsen | found it |
| 17:24.33 | leifmadsen | bad documentation |
| 17:24.52 | Corydon76-dig | ${7000} is blank, so fieldqty is 0 |
| 17:24.56 | leifmadsen | [Description] |
| 17:24.56 | leifmadsen | Example: ${FIELDQTY(ex-amp-le,-)} returns 3 |
| 17:25.07 | leifmadsen | ex-amp-le would have to be the variable name |
| 17:25.12 | Corydon76-dig | right |
| 17:25.14 | leifmadsen | ${ex-amp-le} |
| 17:25.16 | leifmadsen | BAD example |
| 17:25.29 | Corydon76-dig | Where's that documentation? |
| 17:25.36 | leifmadsen | core show function FIELDQTY |
| 17:26.02 | Corydon76-dig | shoots whoever made that up |
| 17:26.06 | leifmadsen | ya |
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| 17:27.21 | hardwire | stretches. |
| 17:27.38 | hardwire | digium people.. talking.. there must be a conference somewhere. |
| 17:27.45 | leifmadsen | nah |
| 17:27.55 | leifmadsen | just sunday afternoon and no one has anything better to do :) |
| 17:28.01 | leifmadsen | I'm working on dialplan stuff |
| 17:28.01 | hardwire | I do. |
| 17:28.05 | hardwire | unfortunately |
| 17:28.10 | leifmadsen | I'm going golfing in a bit |
| 17:28.14 | hardwire | I'm working on a 4 way failover cluster. |
| 17:28.16 | leifmadsen | and gonna go open a corona now |
| 17:28.17 | hardwire | sigh. |
| 17:28.22 | leifmadsen | hardwire: good times... |
| 17:28.25 | hardwire | sorta. |
| 17:28.32 | leifmadsen | I'm working on a hot-desking dialplan for a call centre |
| 17:28.34 | hardwire | I've resolved to having one machine be the "proxy" |
| 17:28.45 | hardwire | leifmadsen: is that a Digium TM solution? |
| 17:29.08 | hardwire | has a few call cent'er' friends. |
| 17:29.28 | hardwire | I'm recording all their calls at this point.. but will be doing more later. |
| 17:30.26 | hardwire | my method of using /usr/bin/buffer to rate limit transcoding speed and speexenc seems to be working pretty well. |
| 17:30.39 | leifmadsen | hardwire: do you have permissions so that certain calls are not recorded? |
| 17:30.52 | hardwire | I can handle around 46 calls at a time at a 0.9ish cpu load. |
| 17:30.56 | leifmadsen | or is it just all calls? |
| 17:31.10 | hardwire | leifmadsen: depends on the desk.. they have a physical switch. |
| 17:31.15 | leifmadsen | I see |
| 17:31.21 | hardwire | recorded campaigns go through my hardware. |
| 17:31.42 | hardwire | makes it simple for now. only around 50 seats in the call center. |
| 17:32.01 | leifmadsen | because there is a thing where in the dialplan, you can't control when to start/stop recordings on attended transfers, so if you're recording on one side, and don't want the other side recorded, you can't really control that with SIP atxfers |
| 17:32.10 | leifmadsen | just be aware -- I got burned by that a bit |
| 17:32.18 | hardwire | ah |
| 17:32.27 | hardwire | I *am* developing a system called callistopbx. |
| 17:32.31 | hardwire | and i had thought about that a bit. |
| 17:32.48 | hardwire | since I always have some sort of manager interface running and doing things, it could be said that I could turn off recording based on events. |
| 17:32.51 | leifmadsen | since when they do the atxfer, there is no association in the dialplan with the other call |
| 17:32.57 | hardwire | good idea. |
| 17:33.00 | leifmadsen | yes, that'd be what you'd have to do |
| 17:33.08 | leifmadsen | some sort of state machine |
| 17:33.20 | hardwire | leifmadsen: or you can just throw away audio too. |
| 17:33.22 | Corydon76-dig | leifmadsen: russell committed that documentation change |
| 17:33.23 | hardwire | post-process |
| 17:33.29 | leifmadsen | Corydon76-dig: when? |
| 17:33.41 | Corydon76-dig | 6 months ago |
| 17:33.47 | hardwire | hehe |
| 17:33.52 | Corydon76-dig | appdocsxml branch |
| 17:33.53 | leifmadsen | hardwire: the problem we had was that we needed all the audio up to the point of the transfers |
| 17:34.07 | leifmadsen | hardwire: so we couldn't just throw it away at the end |
| 17:34.11 | hardwire | it's hard to do that to the frame.. but to the second might be easy. |
| 17:34.25 | leifmadsen | Corydon76-dig: and that branch isn't merged yet? |
| 17:34.37 | hardwire | leifmadsen: ah.. I would have just used an audio manipulation tool like sox. |
| 17:34.38 | leifmadsen | I'm running 1.6.2 as of yesterday |
| 17:35.12 | leifmadsen | hardwire: ya... I'm sure it could be done, but this project was going on for over a year, and the contract wasn't well defined, so there is scope creep all over the place |
| 17:35.27 | leifmadsen | (I didn't make the initial contract, I was just told to build it :)) |
| 17:35.27 | hardwire | feature creep is a pain |
| 17:35.30 | leifmadsen | oh ya |
| 17:35.32 | hardwire | but it appends well to resumes. |
| 17:35.40 | leifmadsen | heh |
| 17:35.43 | hardwire | you can throw "dynamic responsibilities" in |
| 17:35.46 | leifmadsen | I don't have a resume other than my linked in profile |
| 17:36.12 | drmessano | leifmadsen: I jumped through hoops getting IMAP 2007e installed on a test box.. same issue with all phones (even those without VM boxes) getting bombed with MWI on reload |
| 17:36.16 | drmessano | So still digging.. |
| 17:36.20 | hardwire | so.. I have 4 machines with asterisk running on them.. they are running an openvz kernel and have asterirk running in containers as well |
| 17:36.35 | hardwire | and I'm attempting to make the hosts asterisk proxy in and transcode on behalf of the container instances. |
| 17:36.41 | hardwire | so this should be interesting |
| 17:37.06 | leifmadsen | quite :) |
| 17:37.12 | hardwire | I assume that if I only allow ulaw between the host asterisk and the openvz instance of asterisk and make sure some Dial flag is present.. that it will just work |
| 17:37.12 | leifmadsen | you should come to astricon and we should play around with it |
| 17:37.23 | leifmadsen | hardwire: I love when stuff "just works" |
| 17:37.30 | hardwire | I doubt it will |
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| 17:37.42 | leifmadsen | drmessano: coolio, keep at it -- I haven't had a chance to go back to IMAP testing recently |
| 17:37.59 | hardwire | leifmadsen: I went last year.. planning on going again if I still have a job that pays for it. |
| 17:38.00 | leifmadsen | drmessano: I'm holding off until the developer who does the IMAP stuff is available again |
| 17:38.09 | leifmadsen | hardwire: what is your real name? did we meet? |
| 17:38.10 | Corydon76-dig | leifmadsen: and looking back at the commits, eliel committed it, crediting snuffy for the patch |
| 17:38.24 | leifmadsen | Corydon76-dig: hmmmm.... wonder why it's not in the 1.6.2 branch then |
| 17:38.27 | hardwire | leifmadsen: Shane Spencer.. I farted around a bit in the code zone. |
| 17:38.44 | leifmadsen | hardwire: hmmmm.... I can't put a name to the face (and I don't recognize the name :)) |
| 17:38.46 | hardwire | We met but you were a busy boy.. no time to chat. |
| 17:38.52 | Corydon76-dig | leifmadsen: the broken documentation IS in 1.6.2 |
| 17:39.08 | hardwire | http://profile.ak.facebook.com/v228/1813/119/n1013627307_8987.jpg |
| 17:39.09 | hardwire | hehe |
| 17:39.14 | leifmadsen | hardwire: that sucks.... hopefully this year I can still go, and when I go, it won't be so busy for me |
| 17:39.18 | drmessano | leifmadsen: Documenting it all.. and taking pics of my hair before/after being pulled out.. Hoping I can just diff it back in later |
| 17:39.20 | leifmadsen | I'd love to actually do some real work |
| 17:39.33 | hardwire | you *were*! |
| 17:39.46 | leifmadsen | heh... I meant not helping run a conference :) |
| 17:40.07 | hardwire | yeh.. this time I'd like some entertainment of some kind.. like fire jugglers. |
| 17:40.32 | hardwire | and we should just park a red bull van outside the hotel. |
| 17:40.34 | drmessano | !!!! |
| 17:41.52 | leifmadsen | hardwire: greens+ extra energy is actually much more effective I find |
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| 17:41.54 | drmessano | I was thinking about having a convention around the Augusta, GA area.. just need to find out how to keep everyone from bringing their CB radios and weapons |
| 17:42.10 | leifmadsen | drmessano: what would you try to stop that? |
| 17:42.11 | drmessano | Telephony != CB Radio |
| 17:42.12 | hardwire | meh.. coffee works well for me as well. |
| 17:42.14 | leifmadsen | why* |
| 17:42.28 | drmessano | leifmadsen: Easy.. "No sisters allowed" |
| 17:42.37 | hardwire | *sigh* |
| 17:42.52 | drmessano | oh heh |
| 17:42.56 | leifmadsen | hardwire: ya... I've started to try and be a bit healthier lately, trying to cut out all the junk (other than alcohol). Alcohol is next on the list though. |
| 17:43.17 | leifmadsen | and it won't be cut out... just limited :) |
| 17:43.21 | leifmadsen | is currently enjoying his corona though |
| 17:43.22 | drmessano | Seems everyone "convention" around here involving electronics somehow turns into CB Radios and guns too |
| 17:43.30 | drmessano | to everyone* |
| 17:43.38 | hardwire | leifmadsen: don't bother.. you end up replacing alchohol with sushi and really expensive french steaks. |
| 17:44.04 | hardwire | drmessano: trade shows != conventions |
| 17:44.17 | drmessano | hardwire: Its all the same in Augusta |
| 17:44.24 | hardwire | drmessano: but I agree.. even gun shows up here in Alaska are a bit over the top |
| 17:44.34 | hardwire | I've been to a few.. I forgot you can buy swords at gun shows. |
| 17:44.41 | drmessano | lol |
| 17:44.54 | hardwire | But they sold all sorts of crap |
| 17:45.04 | hardwire | lul.. there was an "arts and crafts" show in Wasilla. |
| 17:45.10 | hardwire | I went.. looked like fun |
| 17:45.25 | drmessano | Whether its a trade show or a convention, it WILL be held at the civic center, it will involve CB'ers, and someone will be selling beanie babies |
| 17:45.28 | hardwire | arts and crafts where in one area of the convention center.. and mixed arts crafts and guns in another. |
| 17:45.32 | leifmadsen | hardwire: haha, I already eat that stuff :) |
| 17:45.46 | hardwire | where/were |
| 17:45.57 | drmessano | Now, a Beanie Baby VoIP phone.. that could be cool |
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| 17:46.23 | hardwire | drmessano: a plush DECT handset would be pimp |
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| 17:46.41 | leifmadsen | awesome, I almost have this dialplan done |
| 17:46.52 | leifmadsen | and I think it is general enough that I'm going to ask the client if I can use it for documentation |
| 17:47.05 | hardwire | I think my biggest issue with having one external IP for a bunch of asterisk clusters is where sip registrations go |
| 17:47.12 | drmessano | hardwire: I am picturing a dog laying on its back, with the keypad on its belly that you "rub" when you dial, and a bone handset that fits in its mouth, with the tongue being the hookswitch |
| 17:47.20 | drmessano | patents that idea |
| 17:47.21 | hardwire | and for that, I think I need to have my public IP (I have many, but I want to use less) be some SER deriv. |
| 17:47.37 | leifmadsen | hardwire: ya... distribution_module |
| 17:47.43 | hardwire | ala openser? |
| 17:47.48 | leifmadsen | yep |
| 17:47.50 | hardwire | I haaven't hopped on the SER bus yet. |
| 17:47.54 | leifmadsen | me either |
| 17:48.00 | leifmadsen | we built a system that used that though |
| 17:48.04 | hardwire | I'm still confused on which to use |
| 17:48.05 | leifmadsen | but I didn't build the SER part of it |
| 17:48.10 | hardwire | the kamino or whatever or openser.. |
| 17:48.11 | leifmadsen | ya, I have zero idea |
| 17:48.11 | hardwire | ugh |
| 17:48.19 | leifmadsen | fork of a fork I think :) |
| 17:48.32 | hardwire | which one has the most support.. and it seems that ser has the least. |
| 17:48.34 | leifmadsen | SER forked to OpenSER forked to Kamino (I think?) |
| 17:48.51 | hardwire | openser/opensips has the most. and kamino is party party fun time whee! look at us. |
| 17:48.59 | leifmadsen | hahaha |
| 17:49.04 | drmessano | Can SER or any of its forks be used without a SQL db? |
| 17:49.14 | hardwire | drmessano: bdb |
| 17:49.16 | hardwire | si |
| 17:49.23 | drmessano | Cool |
| 17:49.23 | tfrew | sqlite3 |
| 17:49.44 | hardwire | I thought you could run w/o it all the way.. it seems pretty simple when you just want to route calls. |
| 17:50.03 | hardwire | I love debian - and I'm digging the pkg-voip tree. |
| 17:50.25 | hardwire | I used sbuild to compile opensips, and made some packages available |
| 17:50.38 | hardwire | http://pool.libertytele.com/pkg-voip/ |
| 17:50.42 | hardwire | for lenny i386/amd64 |
| 17:50.54 | hardwire | asterisk 1.6.1 and dahdi are in there too |
| 17:51.28 | hardwire | dangit.. I do NOT want to learn SER today. |
| 17:52.32 | hardwire | if anybody wants anything compiled from pkg-voip for amd64.. just let me know |
| 17:53.04 | hardwire | tzafrir pointed out a pool for 32 bit builds a while ago.. I forgot where it was. |
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| 17:53.40 | leifmadsen | hardwire: ya, I've been using Ubuntu desktop on my MacBook Pro the last week, and really enjoying it |
| 17:53.50 | Corydon76-dig | leifmadsen: Update 1.6.2 branch |
| 17:53.52 | leifmadsen | (and this comes from someone who absolutely despised any sort of debian distribution) |
| 17:54.51 | hardwire | leifmadsen: you were obviously tortured, mind wiped, and then brought back up as a redhat user in some sort of remote convent. |
| 17:55.17 | hardwire | kamailio |
| 17:55.18 | hardwire | sigh. |
| 17:56.38 | leifmadsen | hardwire: exactly :) |
| 17:56.42 | leifmadsen | centos <3 |
| 17:57.15 | leifmadsen | Corydon76-dig: doing so now |
| 17:57.51 | leifmadsen | Corydon76-dig: and that doesn't have to be fixed for 1.4, 1.6.0, or 1.6.1 ? |
| 17:59.18 | hardwire | ok well.. distribution ala SER may do the trick.. I'll just need to share the sip registration contexts between the load balanced hosts via "magic". |
| 17:59.23 | hardwire | or dundi.. one or the other. |
| 17:59.45 | miller7 | how can I turn echo cancel off? I get tons of warnings that I don't know how to disable. I use v1.4 and chan_dandi.conf has echocancel=no -> chan_dahdi.c:1886 dahdi_disable_ec: Unable to disable echo cancellation on channel 1: Invalid argument |
| 17:59.55 | miller7 | can someone help? |
| 18:00.06 | hardwire | or simply make a brute force macro to try to send a call out through all registration servers one after the other. |
| 18:00.07 | Corydon76-dig | leifmadsen: The example didn't exist prior to xml documentation |
| 18:01.03 | Corydon76-dig | leifmadsen: only with the advent of XML did somebody (improperly) encode an example |
| 18:04.15 | tzafrir_laptop | hardwire, http://updates.xorcom.com/pkg-voip/ |
| 18:04.38 | tzafrir_laptop | miller7, what echo canceller do you have there? |
| 18:04.47 | tzafrir_laptop | what version of dahdi? |
| 18:04.57 | miller7 | tzafrir_laptop: how do I check it? |
| 18:05.20 | tzafrir_laptop | built it yourself? from a package? |
| 18:05.25 | miller7 | from bristuff |
| 18:05.31 | miller7 | automated install |
| 18:05.38 | miller7 | it's asterisk 1.4 |
| 18:05.39 | hardwire | tzafrir_laptop: oh.. repo-amd64 |
| 18:05.42 | hardwire | I totally missed that |
| 18:05.47 | miller7 | Asterisk 1.4.24.1-BRIstuffed-0.4.0-RC3e |
| 18:06.21 | hardwire | hugs tzafrir_laptop |
| 18:06.57 | miller7 | chan_dahdi.conf is the successor of zapata.conf? |
| 18:07.06 | miller7 | or both should coexist? |
| 18:07.08 | tzafrir_laptop | miller7, yes |
| 18:07.15 | tzafrir_laptop | the successor |
| 18:07.49 | miller7 | ic |
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| 18:08.18 | tzafrir_laptop | maybe you use dahdi and simply didn't set the echocancel line for the channel? |
| 18:08.55 | hardwire | tzafrir_laptop: I fell off the internet wagon a while ago.. did you get all your perl dependency fixups taken care of on the few packages that were being a pain? |
| 18:09.43 | hardwire | my life exploded with busybusy work about the same time we talked about it. |
| 18:09.55 | miller7 | tzafrir_laptop: I set that line to off. But even when I remove all lines from dahdi, and use zapata.conf this warning still shows |
| 18:10.18 | miller7 | I tried to set dahdi.conf file but I couldn't make it work (yet) |
| 18:10.19 | tzafrir_laptop | hardwire, hmm... I didn't have time to pursue that |
| 18:10.44 | hardwire | me neither. |
| 18:11.08 | tzafrir_laptop | miller7, dahdi.conf? /etc/dahdi/system.conf or /etc/asterisk/chan_dahdi.conf ? |
| 18:11.11 | hardwire | I don't know any perlistas that work on deb packages either. |
| 18:11.27 | miller7 | chan_dahdi.conf |
| 18:11.59 | miller7 | I don't have /etc/dahdi dir structure |
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| 18:14.41 | tzafrir_laptop | hardwire, http://www.mail-archive.com/asterisk-perl@lists.gnuinter.net/msg00318.html :-) |
| 18:15.10 | tzafrir_laptop | I'm busy beating up Asterisk::config at the moment |
| 18:15.32 | tzafrir_laptop | http://git.tzafrir.org.il/?p=asterisk-config.git;a=summary |
| 18:15.59 | tzafrir_laptop | miller7, do you have dahdi or zaptel? |
| 18:16.16 | tzafrir_laptop | ls -d /proc/dahdi /proc/zaptel |
| 18:16.34 | miller7 | ls: cannot access /proc/dahdi: No such file or directory |
| 18:16.42 | miller7 | -> proc/zaptel |
| 18:17.05 | miller7 | so I guess I need to disable dahdi altogether? |
| 18:17.44 | hardwire | tzafrir_laptop: those are suggested packages? |
| 18:18.23 | tzafrir_laptop | miller7, with that version, chan_dahdi can be used with either dahdi or zaptel (set at configure time) |
| 18:19.28 | tzafrir_laptop | libasterisk-perl is in Debian |
| 18:19.36 | tzafrir_laptop | The rest are in CPAN |
| 18:20.51 | hardwire | I had no idea |
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| 18:21.01 | hardwire | ahha.. libasterisk-agi-perl |
| 18:21.02 | hardwire | gotcha |
| 18:21.13 | hardwire | I'm a pythonist. |
| 18:21.18 | hardwire | I love me the snake. |
| 18:21.33 | miller7 | tzafrir_laptop: I guess I will try to modify the line in the source file and recompile. Thanks a lot |
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| 18:35.01 | hardwire | and postgres cluster masters in the house? |
| 18:35.10 | hardwire | I just need to set up hot standby masters |
| 18:35.28 | hardwire | I have a shared fs... |
| 18:35.37 | hardwire | should probably just use mysql-ndb |
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| 18:55.20 | miller7 | can sms work with v1.4? Anyone tried? |
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| 18:59.32 | hardwire | sms always seems like more trouble than it's worth ... esp if you're in the US |
| 19:00.58 | miller7 | ic |
| 19:01.09 | hardwire | what kind of data are you wanting to deal with? |
| 19:01.23 | hardwire | there are a lot of programs designed to deal with SMS through web gateways instead of PSTN |
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| 19:03.26 | miller7 | I just want to activate my landline SMS service, sending 1 SMS using my SMS centre |
| 19:08.53 | hardwire | canadia? |
| 19:09.00 | hardwire | europa? |
| 19:10.05 | b14ck | you should look for a email->sms gateway |
| 19:10.19 | miller7 | europa |
| 19:12.36 | hardwire | miller7: I canna hep ya. |
| 19:12.39 | hardwire | heh |
| 19:14.52 | tzafrir_laptop | "centre" implies europe. |
| 19:14.58 | miller7 | well, for the time being I'm simply trying to use smsq and see how I can make it work (?). This is the intended way, right? |
| 19:15.57 | tzafrir_laptop | landline app_sms works somewhat in 1.4, but has been improved in 1.6.0 . I think the 1.4 version is worth a shot, though |
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| 19:16.56 | hardwire | tzafrir_laptop: alas.. leif used centre earlier. |
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| 21:03.54 | DarthPointer | I've got a Dedicated Long Distance T1 and am having a little trouble getting my zaptel.conf and zapata.conf |
| 21:04.24 | DarthPointer | I know that the the T1 is set for b8zs/esf; but am not sure how to bring up all 24 channels |
| 21:05.13 | DarthPointer | I also have a couple of PRI's and they are up correctly using a Digium T4XXP |
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| 21:18.45 | dshap | [TK]D-Fender: are you here? |
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| 21:27.31 | [TK]D-Fender | Should have waited :) |
| 21:28.01 | jaytee | you just would have stalled longer :-) |
| 21:28.09 | Qwell | ^^ |
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| 21:28.53 | paulius | Has anyone successfully setup a SPA-3102 without an echo in here? What website/tutorial have you used for all the telephony settings to eliminate the echo? |
| 21:31.28 | KyleK | that reminds me i need to raise the gain on this one |
| 21:32.09 | paulius | ... |
| 21:32.15 | paulius | I wish my problem was as simple as that. |
| 21:32.56 | KyleK | wheres the echo come in to play? I've been using my SPA3102's as mainly FXS |
| 21:33.08 | jaytee | paulius, echo on the PSTN (FXO) line or on the Phone1 (FXS) line? |
| 21:33.20 | paulius | jaytee: On the PSTN |
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| 21:33.34 | paulius | If I call from a SIP phone to a normal phone, the quality is great and no echo. |
| 21:33.34 | KyleK | I haven't had echo for FXS -> les.net or FXS -> FXO or FXS -> asterisk -> FXO |
| 21:34.05 | paulius | I meant, to a normal phone connected to my 3102 |
| 21:34.07 | jaytee | have you tried "playing" with the settings for echo cancellation on the tab for the PSTN line in the web interface? |
| 21:34.07 | jgoo | hej people - wtf is up with SIP - I have two main providers I am using - one doesn't pass me the hangup (I get a 603 instead) and the other gives me random hangups about every 2 minutes... Seriously, what is the difficulty here? |
| 21:34.16 | paulius | jaytee: Yeah, tons. |
| 21:34.38 | jgoo | Also, what is the problem and story behind call pickup? why have so many versions of asterisk got broken implementations? |
| 21:35.00 | paulius | jaytee: In fact, I came in here and complained about it and people told me that the spa-3102 is amazing and that I'm configuring it wrong. |
| 21:35.02 | jaytee | paulius, have you tried reducing the gain a little? |
| 21:35.12 | paulius | jaytee: The gain on what. |
| 21:35.22 | paulius | In the pstn tab? |
| 21:35.23 | KyleK | the Line 1 |
| 21:35.26 | KyleK | err nm |
| 21:35.33 | paulius | But line 1 doesn't matter, does it |
| 21:35.33 | jaytee | the gain on the PSTN (FXO) port |
| 21:35.37 | paulius | Right. |
| 21:35.54 | paulius | "SPA To PSTN Gain:" that stuff? |
| 21:36.12 | jaytee | yeah, "that stuff" |
| 21:36.23 | paulius | that one is at -1 |
| 21:36.31 | paulius | and the pstn to spa is at 1 |
| 21:36.41 | paulius | And before it was at like 14 and 1, as per a tutorial. |
| 21:36.48 | KyleK | odd theres no gain setting on Line 1? |
| 21:36.59 | paulius | yeah there is, it's in the regional tab. |
| 21:37.11 | paulius | But I'm now testing with a real SIP phone to isolate the issue. |
| 21:37.23 | DarthPointer | On a standard LD T1 (not a PRI) what type of channel should be specified in /etc/zaptel.conf |
| 21:37.25 | paulius | So that I'm only playing with the pstn settings rather than having to deal with the local line 1 settings too. |
| 21:37.32 | KyleK | makes sense |
| 21:37.38 | paulius | Yeah but ot |
| 21:37.46 | paulius | *it's driving people in my household nuts. |
| 21:37.56 | KyleK | -3 input -3 output on mine, no wonder my dad said its quiet |
| 21:38.10 | jaytee | don't know what to tell ya then. I have about 8 SPA2102's and 6 SPA-8000's and I've never had anyone complain about echo on them. Only have 1 SPA3102 and I don't use the PSTN port on it at the moment. |
| 21:38.47 | paulius | jaytee: Well exactly. The fxs works perfectly, but the pstn is the issue. |
| 21:39.10 | paulius | I'm at a point that I would be ready to pay someone to get this configured right, |
| 21:39.16 | paulius | I just don't know what to do. |
| 21:39.33 | KyleK | hey if i have a phone that sucks too much power for transmitting, would I be able to put a booster between an FXS ata and the phone? |
| 21:39.41 | KyleK | paulius: did you try 0/0? |
| 21:40.09 | paulius | KyleK: Trying right now. |
| 21:40.23 | paulius | yeah |
| 21:40.24 | paulius | tons of echo |
| 21:40.30 | paulius | I hear myself clear as day. |
| 21:40.39 | jaytee | paulius, yeah, what KyleK said. Try setting everything flat and start incrementing or decrementing from there to see if the echo improves or gets worse. |
| 21:41.03 | KyleK | paulius: like you hear yourself speaking live or with a delay? |
| 21:41.26 | paulius | KyleK: Well obviously a slight delay, otherwise I wouldn't define it as an echo. |
| 21:41.36 | paulius | Probably half a second or less of delay. |
| 21:42.30 | KyleK | just checking :) I used a payphone recently without the live echo effect it was weird |
| 21:42.51 | paulius | yeah my SIP phone doesn't have any live echo thing either. |
| 21:42.58 | paulius | Not sure if all SIP phones do that. |
| 21:43.08 | paulius | I always thought that the echo is somewhat of a feature inserted by the phone itself. |
| 21:43.18 | paulius | Now I'm understanding that it's just a byproduct of crappy telco wiring. |
| 21:43.54 | jaytee | echo is mostly experienced on analog telephone lines that are improperly balanced, not on the phone itself. |
| 21:44.34 | paulius | jaytee: But in my case, the spa3102 is right near the demark. |
| 21:44.46 | paulius | In fact I've rewired it today just to make sure my wiring is not the problem. |
| 21:45.09 | paulius | And I'm also kinda confused that the telco's wiring is bad. They recently replaced tons of the telephone wiring in my neighborhood. |
| 21:45.21 | paulius | Hey guys, to be honest, the gain barely does any difference. |
| 21:45.28 | paulius | I just tried 100/0 and 0/100 as the gain. |
| 21:45.37 | jaytee | and if you plug a butt set or analog phone into the line bypassing the SPA3102 do you still get echo? |
| 21:49.29 | paulius | jaytee: I get the normal phone echo thing that we're all used to. |
| 21:49.43 | paulius | well not really echo, there's no delay. |
| 21:50.52 | KyleK | we need a term for that |
| 21:51.00 | KyleK | feedback? |
| 21:51.17 | KyleK | local echo? |
| 21:52.11 | paulius | It's like monitoring yourself if you're doing voice-overs or radio |
| 21:52.42 | paulius | KyleK: So you're using a 3102 for fxs and fxo? |
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| 21:53.03 | wackypl | hi all |
| 21:53.13 | KyleK | yea |
| 21:53.14 | drmessano | Its called talkback |
| 21:53.19 | paulius | KyleK: Getting no echo? |
| 21:53.22 | KyleK | dont talkback! ;) |
| 21:53.32 | paulius | drmessano: Would you have any advice to offer? |
| 21:53.48 | drmessano | or "sidetone" |
| 21:54.41 | KyleK | paulius: I've only had small amounts of echo from calling my sister, annoyingly there appears to be a difference in settings from when you buy the thing vs after doing the ****,,,,RESET#,,,,,1 thing |
| 21:55.06 | paulius | KyleK: Well I meant in general. I get echo when calling anyone. |
| 21:55.14 | wackypl | I'm looking for a modul CLICK2DIAL for asterisk. CLICK2DIAL. |
| 21:55.15 | wackypl | Does anyone else have such a module can |
| 21:55.18 | wackypl | ? |
| 21:55.21 | KyleK | oh no, its been good to me |
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| 21:55.27 | paulius | KyleK: Would you mind screenshotting your settings (that is, the important parts like the gains and stuff) |
| 21:55.59 | drmessano | paulius: My setup is factory reset, the few settings I showed you, and then the gain and impedence settings |
| 21:56.16 | paulius | drmessano: From the voxzilla forums? |
| 21:56.29 | drmessano | No, from my wiki page |
| 21:56.41 | KyleK | bugger i thought i had screenshots |
| 21:56.44 | DarthPointer | wackypl PBX in a Flash has a module that supports click to dial called AstriDex |
| 21:56.46 | drmessano | The one I use to set up all the SPA-3102's I have put in service |
| 21:56.46 | paulius | drmessano: The polish one? |
| 21:56.57 | drmessano | I give up |
| 21:56.59 | paulius | The Polish wiki? |
| 21:57.05 | drmessano | No |
| 21:57.07 | paulius | http://www.voipedia.pl/index.php/SPA_3102_i_echo |
| 21:57.07 | KyleK | paulius: im not at home right now so screenshotting it is a pain |
| 21:57.19 | paulius | drmessano: Would you please mind linking then. |
| 21:57.24 | KyleK | drmessano.wikia.com? ;) |
| 21:58.04 | drmessano | http://wiki.2l2o.com/index.php/SPA-3102 |
| 21:58.09 | wackypl | DarthPointer: thank you |
| 21:58.22 | paulius | drmessano: That's the first time I've seen this link |
| 21:58.26 | drmessano | Liar |
| 21:58.32 | drmessano | I have given it to you twice |
| 21:58.51 | drmessano | Thats MY GUIDE and I know 100% I linked you to it |
| 21:58.57 | drmessano | Told you to follow it PRECISELY |
| 21:59.02 | KyleK | you didn't link me to it :( |
| 21:59.42 | jaytee | yeah, he linked it to you the other night. I was in here |
| 22:01.00 | paulius | Alright well I'll follow that one now. |
| 22:01.20 | drmessano | bangs head on desk |
| 22:01.30 | paulius | I'm sorry dude, I don't have that one bookmarked. |
| 22:01.39 | paulius | I thought I had bookmarked everything that mentionned the spa-3102 |
| 22:01.50 | paulius | I even have a spa-3102 fetish site in my bookmarks! |
| 22:02.33 | drmessano | It probably got lost in the 4 or 5 "SPA-3102 sucks" rants |
| 22:02.40 | jaytee | if drmessano can't make a Linksys ATA work right, then it's frikken broken trash. |
| 22:03.06 | paulius | lol |
| 22:03.29 | paulius | drmessano: Well I've promised not to bash it more until I've had sufficient time to play with it. |
| 22:04.04 | drmessano | heh |
| 22:04.44 | drmessano | Oh, another awesome Goodwill find |
| 22:05.01 | drmessano | Found some shit Motorola wireless 4 port router for $4 |
| 22:05.08 | drmessano | Turns out I can load DD-WRT on it |
| 22:05.17 | paulius | nice. |
| 22:05.24 | wackypl | DarthPointer: where is it CLICK2CALL module in Flash-PBX. What is module name? |
| 22:05.38 | paulius | Okay well I've tried rigging my 3102 with the settings from the wiki and the echo is worse. |
| 22:05.42 | paulius | But I'm gonna try the factory reset route. |
| 22:05.51 | drmessano | Those are a starting point |
| 22:06.00 | drmessano | Gain/impedence |
| 22:06.16 | paulius | So which value should I play with first? |
| 22:06.29 | drmessano | I would go with impedence |
| 22:06.39 | paulius | And what am I looking for? Less echo? |
| 22:06.46 | drmessano | yeah |
| 22:06.48 | DarthPointer | wackypl: http://bestof.nerdvittles.com/applications/asteridex/ |
| 22:06.59 | paulius | And all of the values are potential candidates? |
| 22:07.05 | DarthPointer | YMMV; I've never followed that faq; but it does support click-to-dial |
| 22:07.16 | wackypl | DarthPointer: thx |
| 22:07.36 | KyleK | whats click to dial? you fill out a form and an agent calls you? |
| 22:07.38 | drmessano | paulius: Some are going to better matches for other countries, but potentially anything in the area of 600ohms could work if the line is fucked |
| 22:08.04 | paulius | drmessano: I'm in Canada so something tells me that it would be 600, but as always, I've had lots of echo with that one. |
| 22:09.51 | drmessano | http://affordablephones.net/phoneline.htm |
| 22:10.15 | carrar | WHAT |
| 22:10.22 | carrar | 600 HOMES |
| 22:10.40 | carrar | Asterisk can support that |
| 22:10.53 | carrar | HELLZAYEAH |
| 22:12.59 | carrar | 600 ohms, 48 volts, you got yourself 3.84 Watts!!! |
| 22:13.26 | drmessano | -3.84 watts |
| 22:13.44 | carrar | heh |
| 22:13.56 | drmessano | You forgot to carry the negative |
| 22:13.58 | paulius | drmessano: So just go and test the impedence values one by one? |
| 22:14.06 | carrar | I'm a positive person |
| 22:14.08 | drmessano | paulius: yep |
| 22:14.10 | carrar | I don't deal in negatives |
| 22:14.24 | carrar | Not about keepin it REAL |
| 22:14.37 | jaytee | hehe |
| 22:14.43 | drmessano | paulius: There is no "right answer".. you need to match the box to the line.. period |
| 22:15.10 | KyleK | huh |
| 22:15.16 | paulius | drmessano: And when it is matched, what am I gonna notice? |
| 22:15.19 | carrar | well first |
| 22:15.23 | carrar | you need to ask yourself |
| 22:15.24 | paulius | Just a bit less echo or should it be almost gone or something? |
| 22:15.26 | carrar | do you have a soldering gun |
| 22:15.27 | KyleK | it must come defaulted to a setting for the telco being 1.01 miles away |
| 22:15.51 | carrar | You can fix echo |
| 22:16.48 | carrar | 1.01 miles away? |
| 22:16.58 | carrar | and the speed if electricy is what? |
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| 22:17.56 | paulius | carrar: No, but hopefully I can get it echo-free like the people who say that they've had zero issues with their spa-3102 |
| 22:18.02 | paulius | I doubt I have a worse line than drmessano |
| 22:18.39 | paulius | And there was this other guy saying that he used the spa-3102 with no issues on terrible lines. |
| 22:20.27 | carrar | That question you should be asking yourself is |
| 22:20.33 | carrar | is for that 1.01 miles |
| 22:20.46 | paulius | What? |
| 22:20.53 | carrar | if you had dominos lined up that distance, how long would it take for them to fall over and reach the end |
| 22:22.06 | paulius | no idea |
| 22:22.28 | DarthPointer | anyone had any trouble getting zttool to display LIVE data on PRI / T1s? |
| 22:26.33 | KyleK | carrar: well hes having a problem and im not, im saying maybe its due to distance as the default ohms setting has to be something |
| 22:27.09 | carrar | paulius, are you using a Digium FXS/FXO Card? |
| 22:28.04 | paulius | no |
| 22:28.07 | paulius | SPA-3102 |
| 22:29.07 | carrar | How many google links related to Asterisk and crappy sippura have you found? |
| 22:29.29 | paulius | tons but drmessano and others say that it's me that is bad, and not the sipura. |
| 22:30.06 | carrar | thats very well possible |
| 22:30.19 | carrar | Analog is the SUCK |
| 22:30.32 | phix | wow |
| 22:32.11 | paulius | I'm almost at the end of the impedence list. |
| 22:32.15 | paulius | It's been worse and worser. |
| 22:33.05 | carrar | paulius, did you do any sort of factory reset 1st? |
| 22:33.18 | carrar | maybe ensure you are running cirrent firmware |
| 22:33.21 | paulius | A number of times, but not before starting tese tests. |
| 22:33.24 | paulius | Yeah I've updated it. |
| 22:33.43 | carrar | maybe downgrade just to rule current bugs out? |
| 22:34.10 | paulius | But I had this echo with old firmware too |
| 22:34.13 | smps | paulius, whats your gain ? |
| 22:34.23 | paulius | 5 and 5 |
| 22:34.26 | paulius | per drmessano's wiki |
| 22:34.31 | carrar | what about 0 |
| 22:34.42 | carrar | 0 & 0 |
| 22:34.46 | smps | paulius, what about 0 or - values ? |
| 22:34.52 | paulius | no noticeable difference |
| 22:35.02 | smps | paulius, with negative too ? |
| 22:35.05 | paulius | I mean, I've played a lot with the gains and can't say that they change much. |
| 22:35.10 | paulius | Which one should be negative. |
| 22:35.21 | paulius | So that's the problem... How does one troubleshoot this. |
| 22:35.23 | smps | paulius, both |
| 22:35.24 | carrar | What else is plugged into the same analog phone wires besides the SPA? |
| 22:35.36 | carrar | home phones? |
| 22:35.36 | paulius | carrar: DSL modem. |
| 22:35.43 | carrar | pull it |
| 22:35.45 | paulius | And the SPA is plugged in with the adsl filter thingy. |
| 22:35.48 | carrar | remove everything |
| 22:35.50 | paulius | It'll pull my interwebs. |
| 22:35.56 | paulius | And there's nothing else connected to it. |
| 22:35.59 | carrar | don't need interweb for testing |
| 22:36.04 | paulius | yeah, but for tlaking with you. |
| 22:36.11 | carrar | we're worthless |
| 22:36.13 | paulius | rofl |
| 22:36.23 | carrar | rule out anything on your line |
| 22:36.40 | paulius | Hmm |
| 22:36.48 | paulius | okay. |
| 22:36.58 | carrar | perhaps it's the FBI monitorning your line |
| 22:37.02 | paulius | funny |
| 22:37.15 | paulius | I don't think the FBI does those things in Canada. |
| 22:37.32 | carrar | just under a different name |
| 22:38.12 | carrar | being in Canada could be the issue :) |
| 22:38.14 | jaytee | they just call it something different but it's all just branches of the same organization that report to thier Illuminati masters |
| 22:38.39 | paulius | hmm. |
| 22:38.59 | paulius | So I doubt that Cisco ADSL WIC is so shitty that it introduces echo. |
| 22:39.10 | paulius | But if it were the case, I guess I'd need a POTS splitter. |
| 22:39.31 | carrar | I use tones of cisco ADSL wics |
| 22:39.32 | carrar | tons |
| 22:39.37 | carrar | MLPPP MASTAH |
| 22:39.40 | paulius | and? |
| 22:39.49 | carrar | never tried with a CRAPURA |
| 22:39.50 | paulius | You think it is the issue for my echo? |
| 22:40.09 | carrar | doubt it |
| 22:40.21 | carrar | rule stuff out |
| 22:40.23 | paulius | Hmm. |
| 22:40.28 | carrar | could be a Asteirsk config ssue |
| 22:40.30 | paulius | I'm thinking maybe the filter. |
| 22:40.38 | paulius | carrar: But my other SIP trunks work fine. |
| 22:40.53 | carrar | What sip trunks |
| 22:40.54 | paulius | And I've already deleted this local trunk and tried a bunch of different settings. |
| 22:40.56 | carrar | I don't see any |
| 22:41.05 | paulius | To vo-ip providers. |
| 22:41.13 | paulius | Got one to tollfreesomething and to voip.ms |
| 22:41.18 | paulius | And they have no echo. |
| 22:41.19 | carrar | you have more then 1 SPA? |
| 22:41.24 | paulius | No. |
| 22:41.40 | carrar | SIP is not analog |
| 22:41.45 | paulius | no it's not. |
| 22:41.56 | paulius | But you said Asterisk config. |
| 22:42.00 | carrar | yes I did |
| 22:42.03 | paulius | I'm just saying that I'm using this Asterisk for other stuff. |
| 22:42.06 | paulius | And it works fine. |
| 22:42.29 | carrar | have many analog devices you have plugged into it? |
| 22:42.33 | carrar | that are working great? |
| 22:42.38 | paulius | no, only the WIC. |
| 22:42.53 | paulius | I'm also using the FXS port on the SPA. |
| 22:43.05 | paulius | And that works well without echo if I call to it from a SIP phone. |
| 22:43.12 | carrar | You have any other analog ATA's you can try? |
| 22:43.16 | paulius | no |
| 22:43.47 | carrar | Lets see your configs |
| 22:43.58 | paulius | for what exactly. |
| 22:44.02 | paulius | The ATA trunk? |
| 22:44.04 | carrar | for the Asterisk side of the ATA |
| 22:45.08 | carrar | keep in mind to tossed out anything to do with Sipara years afo |
| 22:45.34 | paulius | http://pastebin.ca/1442873 |
| 22:45.35 | paulius | This? |
| 22:46.15 | carrar | yeah thats nothing special |
| 22:46.45 | paulius | right |
| 22:47.00 | carrar | Is this for a biz? |
| 22:47.07 | paulius | home. |
| 22:47.23 | paulius | Believe me, I'd go with something from Cisco if this were for a biz |
| 22:47.43 | carrar | I wouldn't |
| 22:47.47 | carrar | and I love Cisco |
| 22:47.53 | paulius | I just couldn't justify spending about a grand on an ATA thing (roughly how much it would cost for the Cisco voice VMs) |
| 22:48.12 | carrar | http://cgi.ebay.com/Audiocodes-MP-104B-FXO-AC-SIP_W0QQitemZ170338361256QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item27a8f51fa8&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A2077|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A0|293%3A1|294%3A50 |
| 22:48.18 | carrar | get that |
| 22:48.29 | paulius | I already wasted $80 on the spa-3102 |
| 22:48.39 | carrar | not my fault :) |
| 22:48.55 | paulius | people in this channel swear by it |
| 22:48.57 | carrar | never by anything again that starts with SPA |
| 22:49.39 | carrar | actually the SPA-942 work ok, feel like crap |
| 22:49.43 | carrar | but they work |
| 22:50.26 | carrar | I use digium boards and ADIC's for anything analog |
| 22:50.34 | carrar | and AudioCodes |
| 22:51.29 | carrar | sorry ADIT |
| 22:52.46 | KyleK | carrar: whats on that ebay item? 1 lan port and 4 fxo ports? |
| 22:52.56 | carrar | yeah |
| 22:53.04 | carrar | their small series are nice |
| 22:53.10 | carrar | 4, 8 & 16 FXO or FXO ports |
| 22:53.17 | carrar | they have one that is 2 FXO 2 FSX |
| 22:53.28 | carrar | err |
| 22:53.31 | carrar | 4, 8 & 16 FXO or FXS ports |
| 22:53.55 | carrar | sync all 4 as 1 registrataion or |
| 22:53.56 | carrar | 4 |
| 22:54.08 | carrar | pretty rich features set |
| 22:55.55 | carrar | I did interoperability testing for the MP-114 for our company |
| 23:04.14 | carrar | hrmm |
| 23:04.33 | carrar | falling domino averages between 80-140 cm/s |
| 23:04.40 | paulius | lol |
| 23:04.54 | carrar | there is a lot of data about that on the internet |
| 23:05.02 | carrar | oddly enough |
| 23:05.33 | carrar | .2 (domino spacing) distance is about 100 cm/s |
| 23:05.53 | carrar | Where as 1 domnio space distance is about 80 cm/s speed |
| 23:06.13 | KyleK | I'd be surprised if there wasn't domino speed data on the internet |
| 23:06.20 | carrar | heh |
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| 23:06.31 | carrar | I'm pretty sure I need to verify this data |
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| 23:21.20 | jblack | I can remember how things were before there was an internet to get an answer to every question out there, silly or not... but I can't imagine ever living that way again. |
| 23:21.41 | carrar | Pirates of Pugest Sound PPS |
| 23:21.45 | carrar | that was the before the internet |
| 23:21.51 | carrar | Now on 300 baud! |
| 23:22.26 | jblack | googles for hummingbird humps per second |
| 23:22.42 | carrar | please, we need stats |
| 23:22.47 | carrar | not guesses |
| 23:23.11 | carrar | at least 14 univerisies have stats on that |
| 23:23.17 | carrar | phear my spelling |
| 23:23.54 | carrar | jblack |
| 23:26.16 | jblack | can't be much. Apparently, the actual act lasts for about 4 seconds. |
| 23:26.39 | carrar | yeah but having to deal with air cant be easy |
| 23:26.44 | carrar | wind |
| 23:26.49 | jblack | They land for the act. |
| 23:26.53 | carrar | oh |
| 23:26.58 | carrar | heh |
| 23:27.02 | jblack | The court in air, perch for mounting.. all 4 secs of it. |
| 23:27.09 | carrar | Are you in Reston? |
| 23:27.20 | carrar | I've seen them flair their feathers |
| 23:27.23 | jblack | Virginia? |
| 23:27.27 | carrar | read nad all colors |
| 23:27.31 | carrar | yeah VA |
| 23:28.03 | carrar | granma use to do the humming bird feeder thing |
| 23:28.25 | jblack | No. I'm in northeastern PA, though I grew up not too far from Reston |
| 23:29.07 | carrar | What kind of magic are you doing with asterisk? |
| 23:29.19 | jblack | Oh gross. Hummingbirds don't mate midair, but... great gray garden slugs do. |
| 23:30.31 | jblack | I don't do really special stuff at home, though I've done some neat stuff for clients. |
| 23:31.11 | carrar | like? |
| 23:31.21 | carrar | clients are demanding |
| 23:31.24 | carrar | damn them!! |
| 23:31.28 | jblack | I'm thinking about making a project to lock/unlock my door via the phone, except i don't have a cell phone, making it pointless. |
| 23:31.43 | carrar | make it web via wifi |
| 23:31.52 | carrar | via ssl |
| 23:32.10 | carrar | get the wifi ipod thing |
| 23:32.14 | jblack | usually custom hotdesking stuff, with data analysis. |
| 23:32.24 | carrar | nice |
| 23:32.31 | carrar | what db do you use> |
| 23:32.37 | jblack | asterisk. |
| 23:32.50 | carrar | database |
| 23:32.52 | carrar | og |
| 23:32.56 | jblack | postgresql. |
| 23:32.57 | carrar | you use the asterisk db |
| 23:32.59 | carrar | yes |
| 23:33.04 | carrar | ok |
| 23:33.10 | carrar | 8.4 is almost out!!! |
| 23:33.35 | carrar | I'm a postgres advicator |
| 23:33.38 | carrar | :) |
| 23:33.56 | jblack | I'll typically perform the agi logic with perl, the frontend with php, and when I can come up with a suitable excuse, which isn't often, I'll sneak some C++ in. |
| 23:34.11 | carrar | nice |
| 23:34.26 | carrar | I haven't seen too much C or C++ in * |
| 23:34.36 | carrar | should post that shit |
| 23:34.52 | carrar | share the goodness!!! |
| 23:35.04 | jblack | heh |
| 23:35.29 | carrar | most all my crap is perl/AGI/postgres |
| 23:35.44 | carrar | works well |
| 23:36.36 | carrar | you on 1.4 |
| 23:36.40 | carrar | or 1.6 |
| 23:38.16 | jblack | You ask a lot of questions. 1.4, since that's where distros are still at. |
| 23:38.34 | carrar | should I can it? |
| 23:38.37 | carrar | sorry |
| 23:38.42 | carrar | I'm random |
| 23:39.02 | jblack | Nah. But why don't you ask drmessano why he's gay. |
| 23:39.03 | carrar | I have a newboarn sleeping on my chest while a type |
| 23:39.12 | carrar | so I have time :) |
| 23:39.23 | carrar | not like I can go anywhere |
| 23:39.24 | carrar | heh |
| 23:39.26 | carrar | :( |
| 23:39.28 | jblack | Well, I'm going to be killing zombies presently. |
| 23:40.00 | carrar | drmessano like other are full of sarcasim |
| 23:40.07 | carrar | it's expected here |
| 23:40.17 | carrar | I got the same shit |
| 23:40.24 | jblack | and bile, and anger. He didn't listen to Yoda either. |
| 23:40.40 | jblack | get me in the right mood, and I'll bite ya too. :) |
| 23:40.46 | carrar | yeah |
| 23:40.50 | carrar | it's all good |
| 23:41.06 | jblack | have headphones? Do some youtube. |
| 23:41.13 | carrar | oh hyyeah |
| 23:41.17 | carrar | requirement! |
| 23:41.20 | carrar | heh |
| 23:41.42 | jblack | failing that, catch up on the news and figure out how you're going to feed you kid in 18 months, when milk costs $14 a gallon. |
| 23:41.42 | carrar | space oddesy is only fun soo long |
| 23:41.45 | carrar | heh |
| 23:42.00 | carrar | no milk xost |
| 23:42.01 | carrar | cost |
| 23:42.12 | jblack | fine. Look up 'snowball' and 'another one bites the dust' |
| 23:42.16 | carrar | wife is breast feeding |
| 23:42.17 | jblack | you'll love it. seriously. |
| 23:42.22 | carrar | (is that allowed here) |
| 23:42.25 | carrar | hehe |
| 23:42.29 | carrar | ahahah |
| 23:43.05 | carrar | I've been reading SQL commads every night as bedtime stores |
| 23:43.20 | carrar | it works! |
| 23:44.46 | carrar | tonights bed time topics, JOINING accountcodes with incoming calls so that you can bill on them, Agelevel 2 monts |
| 23:45.09 | carrar | months |
| 23:45.45 | carrar | I'm guessing she is going to fall sleep before I finish |
| 23:47.32 | carrar | thinking I should mix in some Low frequency RF theory |
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| 23:50.30 | fskie | Hello guys, i've not really kept up to date with SIP hardphone technology what would be the most opensource friendly product on the market at the moment? |
| 23:50.50 | carrar | Asterisk |
| 23:51.33 | jblack | polycom, I suppose |
| 23:51.36 | carrar | have you tried soft phones? |
| 23:51.38 | carrar | yeah |
| 23:51.43 | carrar | Polycom is the best |
| 23:51.49 | carrar | for physical phones |
| 23:52.14 | fskie | is it Polycom opensource? |
| 23:52.26 | carrar | no |
| 23:52.33 | carrar | why does it need to be? |
| 23:52.38 | jblack | I don't know what "open source" means for hardware |
| 23:52.39 | carrar | it's a phone |
| 23:52.51 | carrar | their config is "open" |
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| 23:52.58 | fskie | it keeping a common them :) |
| 23:53.33 | carrar | go polycom |
| 23:53.39 | carrar | configs are OPEN |
| 23:53.49 | carrar | you will be very happy |
| 23:53.50 | fskie | jblack: the source code can be read and altered |
| 23:53.54 | jblack | there is firmware, which probably is proprietary. |
| 23:54.06 | jblack | but my microwave has firmware too. I don't care about that |
| 23:54.34 | fskie | just trying to vote with my money |
| 23:54.45 | carrar | Microwaves are soo hackable |
| 23:55.07 | carrar | polycom is the best |
| 23:55.13 | carrar | hands down |
| 23:55.19 | carrar | best configs |
| 23:55.22 | fskie | anyway thank you guys, if this channel doesn't know nobody does |
| 23:55.27 | carrar | best functionality |
| 23:55.52 | carrar | obama uses polycom at home |
| 23:56.10 | carrar | thast classified, as there are no photos of that |
| 23:56.31 | fskie | ok i'm sold |
| 23:58.18 | carrar | yeah you will be very happen with polycom quality |
| 23:58.25 | carrar | happy |
| 23:58.55 | fskie | thanks carrar i'm going to have a look at their web page |
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