IRC log for #asterisk on 20090524

00:04.49drmessanoI guess its time to try IMAP again
00:05.20nsgndrmessano: what happened last time you tried it? i enjoy imap
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00:05.57nsgnthough the experience entirely depends upon your setup. mainly if you're doing it on your own server (good) or google's (bad!)
00:06.08drmessanoI used an old version of IMAP and I had 40 extensions across 5 states ringing everytime I would reload
00:06.21nsgnwow
00:06.42drmessanoGood times
00:06.45nsgnso where does IMAP come into a phone system? i figured you were just making an off topic email conversation
00:07.19drmessanoNo, I have used IMAP for years.. Im talking about IMAP storage of emails
00:07.22drmessanoerrr
00:07.24drmessanovmails
00:07.28nsgnooh, ok
00:07.45nsgnwhat is the advantage of such a system? what is your current system?
00:08.31drmessanoAdvantage is unified messaging.. Store the voicemail in the users inbox and they can listen to it right from there, and when they delete it, the MWI goes out on the phone
00:08.42drmessanoOr they can do it all from the phone, and it purges from the inbox
00:09.02drmessanoForwarding vmails with SMTP is nice, but then you have two copies of every voiceamil
00:09.08drmessanoOne on the PBX, one in your inbox
00:09.40jayteeI just get one in Exchange UM but then I don't get MWI :-(
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00:11.54drmessanoI like the Exchange UM thing to a point
00:12.16drmessanoJust not 100% happy with Ex2007
00:12.29jayteenot having MWI kind of sucks
00:12.42BrianYnsgn, please, can you help ?
00:12.54drmessanoVery much like Ex2000 fixed so much that 5.5 was lacking, and was really nice, it still was buggy and more a beta for Ex2003
00:12.59jayteebut I'd hate to have to duplicate the setup of mailboxes on each system and keep them synchronized.
00:13.16nsgndrmessano: i see. sounds good
00:13.29drmessanoEx2007 is nice, fixes a lot of complaints from 2003.. but I think its still a beta for Ex2010
00:13.29nsgnyeah, exchange is an awesome product but certainly not for many situations
00:13.30jayteeor pay money for some stupid ass middleware product like MWI2007
00:13.47nsgnBrianY: did you tell us what your problem was..?
00:14.33nsgnactually, i'll let others deal with it. i've been doing this for entirely too long
00:14.37drmessano2007 has a lot of new features that M$ will tell you on its blogs theyve already made 100x better in 2010..   Like they implemented them in 2007, got it out there, realized a lot of it sucked, so retooled
00:14.42drmessanoThey did that with 2000
00:14.49nsgnso i'm out. going to make myself take a break. we'll see how long i last
00:14.54nsgnttyl. thanks to all who helped
00:15.05BrianYnsgn, yes.I tried version 1.4.22 , of asterisk.In full log of asterisk i saw active call line > Channel SIP/w1-08200e18 was answered.Now i installed 1.6.0.3-rc1, but in this version i can't see anywhere the line containing "call/channel ..was answered". What i do wrong?Maybe i didn`t enabled something on /etc/asterisk/logger.conf ?
00:15.07drmessanoLater, phone snob
00:15.19drmessano1.6.0.3 is OLD
00:15.19nsgn;) lates
00:15.21rjune_[TK]D-Fender, I was curious what the syntax was to label a single port on the digium card
00:15.29drmessanoAt least get on newer code
00:15.36rjune_it'll be ZAP/G1<something>
00:15.43BrianYI got it, its old, but it's not normal to WORK ?
00:16.17drmessanoOh, now youre gonna get testy..
00:16.35drmessanoWell, god bless you
00:17.08BrianYGod, i just asked.Why people is so irascible when others request a bit help ?
00:17.33jo3sm1thIts been 2 years since I used asterisk I cant remmeber how to set up Xlite with my teliax account can anyone show me just basically how to set CID/outbound calling
00:18.57drmessanoBrianY: if youre gonna yell and ignore that youre using something that may be old and buggy, YOU may actually be the problem, not everyone else
00:19.12drmessanoI hope you make peace with yourself
00:26.30BrianYAll i can say is, i still hope my little child will became a man, not an idiot
00:26.35BrianYthanks for your support
00:29.14drmessanoI will pray for you, and him too
00:29.48rob0Always pray for people who annoy you. They hate that!
00:30.16drmessanoI only pray for the passive agressive
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00:35.31DarthPointerI've got a quick question about the force loading of the wct4xxp and the wctdm24xxp modules in a specific order
00:35.57DarthPointerthe problem I'm having is that they will occasionally load in a different order; so the channels get numbered differently
00:36.09DarthPointeris the best way to handle this to use modprobe.d?
00:36.35jayteeI believe there is a switch on the card itself that you can set
00:37.15DarthPointerI've got two cards; one a 4 port pri / t1 the other a 24 port analog
00:37.38DarthPointerhence the two modules :)
00:37.52jayteewhich also means you have the manuals for those cards or have downloaded the PDF version from Digium's site?
00:38.27DarthPointerof course; I was just polling for a little best practices, rather than rtfm
00:40.58jayteewell, not sure about the 24 port analog board but I'm pretty certain the 4 port PRI card has a little rotary switch on it to set the card number.
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01:09.31matt_keysI just got a SPA-941 phone. I've managed to get it to register but when I make a call I get the following in syslog/debug "### flags = 24" and a fast busy signal
01:11.08matt_keysany ideas wtf that means?
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01:17.36s14ckhi everybody
01:18.03s14ckhow can I spy one call in progress?
01:21.28DarthPointers14ck- spy at what level?  network like intercept G711 packets and reconstruct to a call?  Try vomit: http://vomit.xtdnet.nl/
01:24.28DarthPointeryou need to record the packets first; you can use ethereal / wireshark
01:26.23DarthPointerjaytee, u still around?
01:27.40DarthPointerfwiw, I think I solved the load order problem on the system by adding the file Digium to /etc/modprobe.d/ with: "install wctdm24xxp /sbin/modprobe wct4xxp; sbin/modprobe --ignore-install wctdm24xxp"
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01:39.38marvhmm, is there no analog to importvar? i.e. set a variable on some other channel from the dialplan or agi? kind of sucks to have to open a manager connection for that
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02:11.35VaGoNeTaShello everybody
02:15.51VaGoNeTaSDarthPointer ?
02:16.41VaGoNeTaSthere is somebody alive, i have an issue
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02:32.56trentcreekjust ask
02:33.32trentcreekVaGoNeTaS: just ask
02:36.52matt_keysI just got a SPA-941 phone. I've managed to get it to register but when I make a call I get the following in syslog/debug "### flags = 24" and a fast busy signal
02:36.54matt_keysany ideas wtf that means?
02:37.34matt_keysit doesn't matter what i dial
02:41.57[TK]D-Fenders14ck: "core show applications like spy"
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02:42.22[TK]D-Fendermatt_keys: Enable SIP DEBUG and actually look at the call
02:42.28ki4lzkhello all
02:44.32ki4lzki am trying to get my inbound sip trunk to work but i only get a busy signal.  my firewall is currently off, and it is registering with the did providers server
02:48.00[TK]D-Fenderki4lzk: Same goes for you
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02:51.14VaGoNeTaStrentcreek
02:51.21VaGoNeTaSmy issue is:
02:51.44VaGoNeTaSi have an asterisk configured into a private lan with the ip address 192.168.1.27, and we have 6 SIP phones connected to it
02:51.47VaGoNeTaSand working properly
02:52.16trentcreekyou better stick with [TK]D-Fender as he is hte resident expert though a bit cantankerous at times
02:52.23VaGoNeTaSand we also have an WI FI Linksys router, with the ip address 192.168.100.1 address and the dhcp is working over 192.168.100.xx range
02:52.57VaGoNeTaSwhen the laptop users gets connected to that wi fi connection, they can use the softphones and they are able to call and listen, but nobody can listen them
02:53.28VaGoNeTaSi've just enabled the nat into the sip.conf file, so they can login to the * server
02:53.36VaGoNeTaSbut they cant listen
02:53.43ki4lzkhttp://www.pastebin.ca/1432590
02:53.47VaGoNeTaSany suggestions?
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02:54.53trentcreekVaGoNeTaS: line 43 tells me a lot
02:54.59[TK]D-FenderVaGoNeTaS: Why is your WiFi running on a separate subnet?
02:56.18VaGoNeTaSi've tried to change it to 1.xx
02:56.25VaGoNeTaSbut it doesnt allow me to do it
02:56.29[TK]D-Fenderki4lzk: for your inbound peer entry try "insecure=port,invite"
02:57.02VaGoNeTaSits a linksys without atenna
02:57.30VaGoNeTaStrentcreek i didnt pb
02:57.31trentcreekI would try to connect all those goodies to the same subnet...double NATing means double trouble
02:57.35[TK]D-FenderVaGoNeTaS: Disable DHCP on the linksys and plug your local lan onto a LAN switched port, not WAN
02:57.41trentcreekVaGoNeTaS: oh..sorry
02:57.56VaGoNeTaSwe have
02:57.59[TK]D-FenderVaGoNeTaS: And as trentcreek warned you you are asking for trouble
02:58.07trentcreekki4lzk: look at line 43.....check your passwords..
02:58.21VaGoNeTaS[TK]D-Fender i didnt pb anything
02:58.35VaGoNeTaSit wasnt me, it was ki4lzk
02:58.37[TK]D-FenderVaGoNeTaS: I didn't ask you to, and no need for your description
02:58.55[TK]D-FenderVaGoNeTaS: Your network layout invites trouble and I suggest fixing THAT
02:59.09VaGoNeTaSyup, i'm gonna reset the wi fi router then
02:59.11[TK]D-FenderVaGoNeTaS: This can resolve your isse
02:59.14VaGoNeTaSand set it up again
02:59.25VaGoNeTaSbut, if i dont do that, there is any fix ?
02:59.29VaGoNeTaSlike an vpn or some=?
02:59.48[TK]D-FenderVaGoNeTaS: ask AFTER when you really need it
03:00.11[TK]D-FenderVaGoNeTaS: option #2 is to set it to ROUTE, not NAT
03:01.20VaGoNeTaSgimme an example of that route
03:01.59trentcreekVaGoNeTaS: There is no example..it's a setup in the web interface
03:02.11VaGoNeTaStrentcreek im talking about the ROUTE
03:02.16trentcreekso am I
03:02.18DarthPointeron your wireless, what firmware are you using?  dd-wrt?
03:02.32VaGoNeTaSi dont know, im not in the office right now
03:02.38ki4lzkhttp://www.pastebin.ca/1432593
03:02.47ki4lzkit didn't help it any
03:03.05VaGoNeTaS[TK]D-Fender , related to my other issue , i've just fixed it
03:03.06DarthPointerif you are, you can change your wireless to a bridged connection under wireless--> basic settings --> "network Configuration": select Bridged
03:03.21DarthPointerthat will put the LAN ports and the wireless on one Collision domain
03:03.38VaGoNeTaSi've added the line alaw=1-124 to the system.conf file
03:03.49VaGoNeTaSthat's it
03:03.53[TK]D-Fenderki4lzk: pastebin your SIP config masking only passwords
03:03.55VaGoNeTaSmy problem was solved
03:07.27ki4lzkhttp://www.pastebin.ca/1432597
03:09.31[TK]D-Fenderki4lzk: the call got matched against [out] , not [in]
03:10.00ki4lzkok
03:10.31[TK]D-Fenderki4lzk: Not put it in the right entry.  And your ITSP entries should be "nat=no"
03:11.02ki4lzkfor both?
03:14.01trentcreekki4lzk: "nat=no" for ALL VOIP providers
03:14.29drmessanoThats not necessary
03:14.57matt_keys[TK]D-Fender : I'm getting an OPTIONS and OK messages, but that's all. it doesn't look like the call ever gets made on the asterisk console
03:15.19matt_keysbut the phone is registered...
03:15.43[TK]D-Fendermatt_keys: the PHONE?!
03:15.48matt_keysi can't get the damn thing to upgrade firmware though, it keeps telling me no response
03:15.59[TK]D-Fenderah
03:16.20[TK]D-Fendermatt_keys: well if the call isn't arriving to * then you've configeured it wrong
03:16.46ki4lzkhow do i make the call rouye correctly?
03:16.59matt_keysdefault settings, just set the proxy, username/pass and it registered
03:17.20matt_keysi've factory reset this thing probably 4 times now
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03:17.29trentcreekmatt_keys: have you tried dialing the echo test?
03:17.29[TK]D-Fenderdrmessano: Generally it is actually... tells * to ignore the RTP server it specifies as wel which in the case of ITSP can't be differnt if they use 1 server for signalling, and another for media
03:17.42[TK]D-Fendertrentcreek: No call arrives at * at all
03:17.55matt_keystrentcreek nope not yet good idea though
03:18.15trentcreekyes, but I though he wrote when he dials...only busy signal
03:18.31[TK]D-Fendertrentcreek: ON the phone, not back from *
03:18.44trentcreekoh..ok
03:19.02drmessano[TK]D-Fender: never had a problem with it.. Asterisk never seems to have a problem determining what is and what isn't NAT if set up correctly.. and if I was going to force the issue, I would use nat=never..
03:19.45[TK]D-Fenderdrmessano: True you might never be impacted by it, but its pretty much a 100% safe and recommendable practice
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03:20.10matt_keysyeah thats true, if * isn't doing anything when i call i don't guess the echo would work
03:20.27matt_keysso probably something with the nat
03:20.37matt_keysor the phone
03:21.01[TK]D-Fendermatt_keys: So your * is behind NAT?
03:21.11trentcreekki4lzk: your provider does not have any examples for setup?
03:21.29matt_keysphone is, * on line one is not behind nat, * on line 2 is
03:21.30ki4lzki set it up using their examples
03:21.41trentcreekIf it a reall good you, you only need COPY/PASTE
03:21.48[TK]D-Fendermatt_keys: 2 x *?
03:22.03matt_keystwo different * boxes yes
03:22.17[TK]D-Fendermatt_keys: Where does this other box come into play here?
03:22.40[TK]D-Fendermatt_keys: first we were just dealing with 1 phone trying to talk to *.  Where does this other server come in?
03:22.59matt_keysit's on line two like i said... neither one are getting there though
03:23.30[TK]D-Fendermatt_keys: Line 2 of your PHONE?
03:23.37[TK]D-Fendermatt_keys: Don't throw vague terms around like that
03:23.40trentcreekki4lzk: you may want to paste your sanitized settings
03:25.32matt_keysthe phone has two lines configured for user 201 and 0154. 0154 is a DID off of a PRI, which gets broke out from an AudioCodes box behind a NAT to an * box. 201 is an extension I set up on an * box that has a static public IP.
03:26.04matt_keys'nuff said?
03:26.57matt_keysmy phone is behind a NAT here at home
03:27.24[TK]D-Fendermatt_keys: Clearer... the other line isn't so relevent, but * simply isn't getting packets...
03:27.33matt_keysright
03:27.49[TK]D-Fendermatt_keys: So its either the phone, or networking equipment on one side or the other
03:28.06ki4lzktrentcreek: this is the link for their settings http://www.pastebin.ca/1432597
03:28.35matt_keysi've got 5060-5063 tcp/udp forwarded to the phone, and 16384-16482 udp forwarded to the phone
03:28.42matt_keyshere at home
03:28.58trentcreekmatt_keys: maybe it is time for a softphone so you can actually see what is happening live on your computer.
03:29.01[TK]D-Fendermatt_keys: Remote phones should not need forwarding
03:29.04trentcreekmaybe x-lite
03:29.26matt_keysjust trying anything to make it work
03:29.33matt_keysi figure it's a nat prob somewheres
03:29.54trentcreekwith the softphone..you can usually turn on a debug , or log feature to see what it  is doing
03:30.14matt_keysi'll fire up ekiga then
03:30.43[TK]D-Fendermatt_keys: For all we know the ISP its behind is screwing with SIP behind your back
03:32.45matt_keysi seen the register on asterisk using softphone
03:33.12trentcreekki4lzk: line 23..erase it, or set it to NO
03:33.16matt_keysand it dials
03:33.47matt_keysdials with the one behind nat too
03:34.03ki4lzkok
03:34.22matt_keysshitty phone
03:34.43trentcreekki4lzk: line 41...same thing
03:36.01ki4lzkok, and this is the lines from there example config or from my sip.conf?
03:36.30trentcreekki4lzk: you set it up---you dont know?
03:36.53ki4lzki'm just making sure i am on track with you
03:38.17jayteehttp://www.eatmedaily.com/2009/05/towards-a-grand-unification-of-cutlery/
03:41.06trentcreekki4lzk: reload and try it
03:41.20ki4lzki am
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03:42.29[TK]D-Fendermatt_keys: Softphone is on the same subet as the SPA?
03:43.35[TK]D-Fenderjaytee: splayd doesn'r look sharp enough :)
03:44.06matt_keysyeah and same switch
03:44.12matt_keysthis desktop in fact :)
03:44.30jaytee[TK]D-Fender, and spife looks totally impractical for any purpose involving dining
03:45.05matt_keysi plug my laptop into it with a crossover, set it to the same subnet and try to update the flash and it still tells me no response
03:45.22matt_keysthe allow flash upgrade thing is checked yes
03:45.31matt_keysfirewall is off on the laptop
03:45.32trentcreekki4lzk: Last Line:  srvlookup=no
03:45.40[TK]D-Fenderjaytee: frankly you are probably pinning your target with something in the "fork" sphere so combining knife & fork is kinda redundant
03:45.42trentcreekki4lzk: you have that in wrong place
03:45.50ki4lzkyeah i just realized that
03:46.01[TK]D-Fenderki4lzk: And REGISTER has to come after EVERYTHIGN else under [general]
03:46.09matt_keysbut i can ping the phone
03:46.23[TK]D-Fendermatt_keys: SPA's are generally very good with being behind NAT
03:46.46matt_keyshave you ever encountered one that did this?
03:47.21ki4lzktrentcreek: i also didn't have the correct username in my register string
03:47.44trentcreekki4lzk: yeah that would help
03:47.59drmessanowhy would you set srvlookup=no?
03:48.10[TK]D-Fendermatt_keys: You mean NOTHING?  No... they've all worked
03:48.42[TK]D-Fenderki4lzk: your register has no impact on the processing of the inbound call
03:48.43matt_keyswell it registers and responds to pings so it's not a brick, and the web interface works on it
03:49.17[TK]D-Fenderjaytee: Oh, and a NEW surprise this week at martial arts...
03:49.27ki4lzkok it actually connects now before it goes to the busy signal.  going to restart the server
03:49.28jayteeheh?
03:49.51matt_keysI get a dial tone and all the lights are green
03:50.12[TK]D-Fenderjaytee: in the last 2 months I did 5&4 on the same day, did 3 about 2 weeks ago and completed it across 2 classes and was never actually told that I passed.  Its all feels so much like a foregone conclusion :)
03:50.15trentcreekAsterisk does not support DNS SERVER lookups for inbound calls.
03:50.44drmessanouh what?
03:50.57[TK]D-Fenderjaytee: New development is that my Sensei told me my test for 2nd Kyu is supposed to be TOMORROW... he did this of course only on THURSDAY when I had booked up the day :)
03:51.23jaytee[TK]D-Fender, so you're not ready?
03:51.36trentcreekAsterisk does not support DNS SERVER lookups for inbound calls. So if have a SIP number bound to the  SIP Trunk add it to the sip_general_custom.conf file as well
03:51.36[TK]D-Fenderjaytee: Thats besides the point :)
03:52.03[TK]D-Fenderjaytee: Compounded by the fact I never got papers for the CONTENT of my LAST test let alone this NEXT one and I like KNOWING what I'm being tested on :)
03:52.07matt_keys<PROTECTED>
03:52.07matt_keys<PROTECTED>
03:52.25[TK]D-Fendermatt_keys: About f-ing time :)
03:52.34matt_keyslike i said, it registers
03:52.40drmessano4.1.8? wow
03:52.41[TK]D-Fendermatt_keys: Ok, so it reg's... wait... it always did that, didn't it?
03:52.55jayteeperhaps the next test is all about how you respond and react to the unexpected :-)
03:53.08[TK]D-Fendermatt_keys: I still think you have a proxy setup issue in the phone and did something screwy....
03:53.16[TK]D-Fenderjaytee: DUCK!!!!!!!!
03:53.19[TK]D-Fender*whack*
03:53.37drmessanofactory reset FTW
03:53.49matt_keysdrmessano already did that
03:53.57matt_keyslike 5 f'n times..
03:53.59[TK]D-Fenderjaytee: I've always realized just how much I put into what I do as compared to just about everybody else.
03:54.15[TK]D-Fendermatt_keys: Let one of use look at it perhaps
03:54.24matt_keyssure
03:54.40matt_keysi'm factory resetting it htough
03:54.47matt_keysyou can play with it then
03:54.51drmessanoI would suggest doing a reset and updating the firmware before going further
03:55.03drmessano4.1.8 is teh old
03:55.04jayteehehehe, my mom sent me a birthday card and on the front a porcupine, a chicken and a giraffe are riding in a car, the porcupine is driving. They are quickly approacing a bridge overpass and the porcupine and the chicken yell, "Duck!!!" and the giraffe is looking up at the sky saying, "Where?"
03:55.08matt_keysdrmessano i've been trying but it keeps saying "No repsonse"
03:55.15matt_keysthat f'n utility sucks balls
03:55.26drmessanoI've never had a problem with it
03:55.49matt_keysi wish it would tell me why there's no response or some sorta verbose output
03:55.51ki4lzkwhere should srvlookup be?
03:55.55ki4lzkin the general?
03:56.11drmessanoWhy are you setting it to NO?
03:57.48drmessanosrvlookup=no was recommended for 1.2 as it broke some things, but you need srvlookup nowadays..  Well, you dont NEED it, but providers are using SRV records more and more
03:59.21matt_keyshttp://mattkeys.blogsite.org
03:59.25matt_keysthat should point to the phone
04:00.14ki4lzkdrmessano according to the to the providers site they recommend setting it
04:00.31[TK]D-Fendermatt_keys: You flushed and didn't reconfig the lines?
04:00.33drmessanoWho is the provider?
04:00.46matt_keyswoudln't want to give out the info for that
04:01.04[TK]D-Fendermatt_keys: set temp PW's and point to a safe context
04:01.23matt_keysdo you have one to test with?
04:01.27[TK]D-Fendermatt_keys: FFS we're trying to help... don't handicap the process any further
04:01.46matt_keysjust a sec
04:01.53ki4lzkvoipvoip
04:02.31drmessanoki4lzk: your provider is clueless.. or they think a 1.2 era config recommendation is good forever
04:02.40drmessanoWhich I guess is the same
04:03.04ki4lzkso try it without it?
04:05.50matt_keysok look now, i've got extension 666 registered
04:09.08matt_keys[TK]D-Fender : I created two, i can either register the other or give you the credentials to put in your phone
04:09.35matt_keysor can call the softphone
04:09.40matt_keysi'll do that first..
04:13.30matt_keyssoftphone won't let me register the second line
04:13.46matt_keysbut i can the first one
04:16.28[TK]D-Fendermatt_keys: try with "make call without reg=yes"
04:16.42carrarmatt_keys, you should put the current firmware on that wide open to the internet linksys 941 of yours
04:16.49carrarheh
04:16.54carrarponders
04:17.00[TK]D-Fendermatt_keys: then tell * that the phone is not behind NAT and enable the keep-alives on the phone itself
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04:24.19matt_keyscarrar keep up man, i've been talking about that for hours
04:24.24matt_keysit won't take a firmware upgrade
04:25.22drmessanomatt_keys: You want to know why?
04:25.30matt_keysi'd love to know
04:25.58carrarperhaps you are just doing it wrong
04:26.13carrarI  could upgrade it from here
04:26.28drmessanoGoogle a bit and you'll find you can't just jump from 4.1.8 to 5.1.7
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04:26.53drmessanoYou need to upgrade to something like 5.0.1 .. or some firmware revision I cant remember
04:27.15matt_keysgimme a sec..
04:28.23[TK]D-Fenderdrmessano: OMG, SPA's firmware is  like a gateway drup... next thing you know you'll replace all your gear with Linksys, and then find yourself hooked on Cisco and unable to escape!  JUST SAY NO!
04:28.28[TK]D-FenderDRUG*
04:28.36drmessanoLOL
04:29.10drmessanoFor the life of me I cant remember which version it was.. I thought I had saved it
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04:36.12drmessanomatt_keys
04:36.15drmessanohttp://firmware.linksys-cisco.cz/SPA941/?C=M;O=D
04:36.35carrarhaha
04:36.35drmessanoGrab the 4.1.15, see if you can update
04:36.38carrar<PROTECTED>
04:38.34drmessanoHang on
04:38.44drmessanohttp://www.vcommassist.com/vendor/linksys/firmware/spa941-4.1.15.zip
04:38.47drmessanoThere you go
04:40.36carrarI don't ever recall having upgrade issues with 94x
04:40.54drmessanoI did.. with very old firmware
04:41.02carrarI know with cisco's you have too
04:47.31carraroldest source I have is spa941-04-01-12-a.bin
04:47.37carrarwas ginna downgrade and try it
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05:00.13carrarwon't let downgrade to 4.1.9
05:00.14carrarheh
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05:06.22drmessanoI think somewhere in there, something changed
05:06.51drmessanoI was thinking I had to hit an early 5.x first, but very well could have been a later 4.x
05:08.23carrarbe nice if could bring the 941 config to the same level as the 942
05:08.34drmessanoYes
05:08.40drmessanoI would love that
05:08.58carrar6-1-3a is actually usable
05:09.46coppicelinksys's firmware update policy is total chaos
05:09.58carrarAs is there directory
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05:12.11coppicedunno about the phones, but the spa2102 and spa3102 are a mess. they behave quite differently, although they are built on the same platform. fixes have been arbitrarily applied to each, without being carried over to the other
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05:12.44coppiceand they still ship with 2 year old firmware, possibly indicating the faith linksys have in newer versions
05:13.00carrarThats Sipura's for ua
05:13.03carrarya
05:14.48drmessanoI dont think its a matter of faith
05:15.46drmessanoI really think they pick some firmware revision that doesnt kill a baby seal, and just make that whats ships
05:15.57drmessanoand never really update
05:15.58[TK]D-Fender"If it ain't broke(n badly enough) don't fix it"
05:16.14rob0Did you hear the one about the baby seal who walked into a club?
05:16.41[TK]D-Fenderrevokes rob0's comedic license
05:16.46drmessanolol
05:17.04drmessanoJust like the SPA-941s shipping with firmware licensed for 2 lines
05:17.30drmessanoSurely they would want them to come out of the box with 4 lines.. since they're now sold that way
05:17.32coppicerob0: did you hear about the guy who walked into a bar? someone called an ambulance. it was an iron bar
05:17.33drmessanoBut noooo
05:18.02coppicei thought they charged extra for the firmware update
05:18.12drmessanoHavent in some time
05:18.41drmessanoNot sure what the milestone release was, but all recent firmware has enabled 4 lines without the license
05:21.54drmessanoEarly 2007
05:22.17drmessanoSorry, mid 2007
05:22.57drmessanoFound a forum post from Nov 2007 where someone found the upgrade was free now with latest firmware.. someone else noted they had upgraded a few months back
05:24.48tzafrir_laptopBTW: Rony Ron is also the name of an aledged murderer in a high-profile murder case in Israel
05:26.32rob0They don't have baby seals in Israel, do they?
05:28.24coppicethey probably have some navy seals
05:29.47rob0hmm, that sounds plausible
05:39.31sfireI need help.. I installed asterisk now tonight.. I can log in via the console.. I cannot get in at all via the web interface.. it won't accept my username and password
05:39.31sfireI have googled the question.. (all different ways) how do I get access to the website??
05:40.12rob0... web interface ... ?
05:40.23sfireyea.. asterisknow install
05:40.48sfireI banged my head on the monitor for 3 hours trying to fix it.. looked like a fool :(
05:41.02sfirewhat am I missing?
05:41.14drmessanoAsteriskNOW requires entering password on the keyboard, not the monitor
05:41.21drmessanoSo yes, you look like a fool
05:41.32sfireI did enter it on the keyboard
05:41.49sfiretried the setup password.. tried the "secret password" listed in the configuration files
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05:42.09sfireusername 'admin' 'root' I tried it all :(
05:42.58sfireI have used it in the past and the website worked easily
05:43.08sfire(previous installation with an older version)
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06:19.05sfirenevermind all ... I just got it   admin/admin
06:19.25sfireI think I might have to volunteer for the documentation project :(
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12:38.43matt_keysif anybody was curious as to what fixed the firmware update problem on teh SPA-941, it was Windows Vista causing the prob. Once I moved to an XP machine and tried it took the 5.1.8 upgrade first time
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15:44.49mkillebrewhow can I view SIP invites? I'm trying to see if voicepulse sends ANIs when call blocked numbers call my toll free
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15:53.53[TK]D-Fendermkillebrew: "sip set debug on"
16:08.25mkillebrewhm, I'm seeing nothing
16:20.26[TK]D-Fendermkillebrew: then either you're not getting ANY traffic or you haven't enabled it.  Didi it say its enabled?
16:34.44mkillebrewno I mean, I'm seeing no ANI or CPN when I call block and call my 800
16:35.23mkillebrewjust tcpdump'd udp 5060 as well in case asterisk wasn't catching all the fields
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16:49.29[TK]D-Fendermkillebrew: No, its a raw test dump...
16:49.32[TK]D-Fendertext*
16:49.41[TK]D-Fendermkillebrew: You don't see it then they didn't send it
17:01.07mkillebrewI thought they were required to send ANI with toll-free numbers
17:02.08[TK]D-Fendermkillebrew: Maybe from their telco to your ITSP, not sure about your ITSP to you though
17:02.31mkillebrewah
17:02.37mkillebrewyea that makes sense.
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17:02.58thomasrrhello
17:03.16mkillebrewohai thar
17:03.32thomasrri am having trouble with my asterisk installation in combination with voipbuster
17:04.27thomasrrthe problem is that i dont get incoming calls
17:06.45mchoumost likely that's your firewall
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17:11.16thomasrrhello
17:11.19thomasrrback
17:11.26thomasrryes, but i am having some odd issues
17:11.33thomasrrfor example when i call a full number it doesn't work
17:11.59thomasrrbut when i call to an extension and then say like _600X => { Dial(SIP/voipbuster/1234567890); };
17:12.03thomasrrit works
17:12.08thomasrrbut not when i call to the same number directly
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17:16.26apocnHello all, I've configured asterisk behind an ADSL Router (with 2 agents and 1 queue). The caller can hear the agent, but the agent cant hear the caller, then the connection falls after 15 seconds. I have setup nat=yes, but its not working :'(, any hints?
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17:16.45apocnI also set rtp from 50000 through 51000 and I configured the NAPT on the router, etc.
17:17.29thomasrrsometimes you need to disable some feature on the router
17:17.33thomasrrto improve support for SIP
17:17.37thomasrrsometimes they are mangling with packets
17:17.46thomasrrbut i am also having issues :>
17:17.53apocn:\
17:18.04thomasrrcant get voipbuster voip-in number to work :(
17:20.10thomasrrback to recovering the ip of my siemens sip phone :)
17:20.22[TK]D-Fenderapocn: Takes a hell of a lot more settings than just that...
17:20.25[TK]D-Fender~sipnat
17:20.26infobot[~sipnat] Quick guide on configuring * + SIP behind NAT : http://www.aocomputing.net/?p=3 , otherwise check the WIKI at http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+SIP+NAT+solutions
17:20.31[TK]D-Fenderapocn: ^^^^ read the guide
17:20.44apocnthanks [TK]D-Fender
17:21.13thomasrrdamn Siemens S450IP :)
17:21.21[TK]D-Fender[13:12]<thomasrr>but not when i call to the same number directly <- pardon?
17:21.44thomasrri found the issue :)
17:21.49thomasrr{$EXTEN} ;)
17:21.51thomasrr${EXTEN}
17:22.03thomasrrnow only the incoming calls
17:24.47thomasrr[TK]D-Fender: do you know if you need to do something special for the trunk sip config?
17:25.07[TK]D-Fenderthomasrr: That is a uselessly vague question you know....
17:25.08thomasrri can receive calls like extension@myip from outside
17:25.21thomasrrto get voipbuster voip-in to work i mean
17:25.41[TK]D-Fenderthomasrr: Set up a peer for them like they probably even give you a sample for
17:27.21apocn[TK]D-Fender: In the document you sent me, the #5 is my scenario (Asterisk as a SIP server behind nat, clients on the inside connecting to Asterisk). And the solution #5 Works - no NAT in between
17:29.35thomasrr[TK]D-Fender: i havent found any info about it for asterisk :/
17:29.41thomasrri got the calling out going for voipbuster
17:29.49thomasrrbut do i need to connect a second time for the incoming calls?
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17:31.08[TK]D-Fenderthomasrr: http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=voipbuster+asterisk+howto&btnG=Google+Search&meta=&aq=f&oq=
17:31.13[TK]D-Fenderthomasrr: JFGI
17:31.56[TK]D-Fenderthomasrr: In fact the peer you set up for your outbound might very well work for incoming calls.  So far I don't see you showing us SIP debug for when a call DOES arrive at your box...
17:33.27thomasrryes, right. let me check the debug line again :)
17:36.37thomasrr[TK]D-Fender: what was the line again for sip debug?
17:37.30[TK]D-Fenderthomasrr: "sip set debug on"
17:38.37thomasrrthanks let me call again
17:42.16thomasrrhmm
17:43.31apocn[TK]D-Fender: ahhhh! the problem was in my SBC
17:43.51thomasrrmaybe the issue is with the trunk type
17:43.53thomasrrwhich is now peer
17:43.57thomasrrmight need to be friend
17:44.00apocnnow that I made a dump, I saw the problem. That usually happens when there are 2 laidies waiting for you to go to the beach...
17:44.36apocn:]
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17:51.48[TK]D-Fenderthomasrr: No the problem is your not showing anything :)
17:51.56[TK]D-FenderthamAnd I'm out of time to help right now...
17:51.58[TK]D-FenderBBIAB
17:54.04thomasrroki
17:54.15thomasrrkeep getting all kind of stuff passing by
17:55.08thomasrrhmm
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17:58.22hardwiredoes a boogie
17:58.36hardwire[TK]D-Fender: you are relieved of duty for the rest of the day.. go have fun in the sun.
17:58.44hardwireI'LL HANDLE THE CHANNEL FOR A WHILE
17:58.47hardwirewoooohoooo
17:59.07hardwirewheres the steering wheel?
18:02.44tzafrir_laptopeyes the lifeboat
18:04.02jayteegrabs a lifejacket
18:04.17thomasrrhmm
18:04.19thomasrri am getting this now:
18:04.20thomasrr[May 16 15:41:01] NOTICE[3681]: chan_sip.c:18160 handle_request_invite: Call from 'voipbusterusername' to extension 's' rejected because extension not found.
18:04.23thomasrrScheduling destruction of SIP dialog 'dc90461cdd40452ab7895edfeafb1ca2' in 6400 ms (Method: INVITE)
18:04.27thomasrrasterisk*CLI>
18:04.38thomasrris s some mandatory extension?
18:05.35jayteethomasrr, http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+standard+extensions
18:06.57thomasrrso i need to make that extension in my context?
18:07.44thomasrruh, i think i mean an extension voipbusterusername
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18:09.10rob0Forget the steering wheel. Where's the accellerator?
18:09.20rob0Let's see what this baby can do!!
18:09.33thomasrroh wait i dont have a context for my voipbuster trunk specified
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18:13.51drmessanoAnyone know how to jump to a line number while in nano?
18:14.01thomasrrexit
18:16.08drmessanoAh got it
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18:18.00thomasrrtime to experiment with the s-extension
18:21.02jayteeremember, when experimenting, to always wear your safety glasses
18:24.01tzafrir_laptopdrmessano, <NUM>G, isn't it?
18:24.09tzafrir_laptop:-)
18:24.26drmessanoCtrl-Shift-_ or ESC-G
18:24.40thomasrri keep getting pokeanswer notices
18:24.41drmessanoAs I just found a few mins ago
18:24.52thomasrrchan_sip.c:9923 sip_reg_timeout for example
18:28.21MaliutaLapanyone know why, when * received a correct incoming CID, doing a DIAL() to a dahdi channel results in "Didn't finish Caller-ID spill.  Cancelling."?
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18:42.10beniwtvhi all... In most call centers in my country, if you are on hold in a queue, just before the agent picks up you hear ringing tones. So, while the next available agent is located, you hear music. When he is located, you hear rings until he picks up. Any way to replicate this with asterisk queues?
18:42.47hardwireyou can use a 'transfer on pickup' macro
18:42.48thomasrrwhat does regex in sip.conf exactly do for users?
18:43.21thomasrrhttp://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+sip+regexten
18:43.23thomasrris a bit empty :+
18:43.55beniwtvhardwire: but transfer to what? to an extension that DIAL's SIP/<agent>?
18:44.48hardwirethat rings first.. waits.. then dials him again in a different way.
18:45.09beniwtvI see...
18:45.10beniwtvthanks
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18:45.16hardwirebeniwtv: here's a hint tho
18:45.17hardwiredamnit
18:45.22hardwireI was GOOONNNAA say..
18:45.34hardwirethat the ring you hear is probably because the agent is in an immediate pickup scenario
18:45.58hardwireand that he needs to press a key to answer anyways.  So when he becomes available you hear a ring and he has to hit his "don't fire me" button.
18:47.45thomasrrhmm password of gigaset S450IP :o
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19:01.10thomasrrcool it all works now
19:01.15thomasrrbut i am getting all kind of timeouts
19:01.17thomasrris that normal?
19:01.41thomasrrfor example: [May 16 16:37:27] NOTICE[3667]: chan_sip.c:9923 sip_reg_timeout:    -- Registration for 'XXXX@sip.voipbuster.com' timed out, trying again (Attempt #2) > doing dnsmgr_lookup for 'sip.voipbuster.com'
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19:41.43x1nuxhi
19:41.59x1nuxi need help about asterisk
19:43.25mmlj4x1nux: not unless you ask helpful questions
19:43.38x1nuxI want to know how to authenticate with the function Autenticate in a mysql database
19:43.40x1nux?
19:44.04mmlj4have you looked at the various pages on the wiki?
19:44.09mmlj4~wiki
19:44.43x1nuxI have inside my mSQL 2 tables
19:44.50x1nuxnames, pins
19:44.56mmlj4ok, let me ask differently
19:44.57x1nuxpins = numeric
19:45.38mmlj4have you looked up "authenticate" and "database" on http://www.voip-info.org ?
19:45.45mmlj4also, you might need AGI
19:46.00x1nuxyes
19:46.06x1nuxbut i don't know
19:46.25x1nuxhow this work !
19:49.06mmlj4can you explain in english what you are trying to do?
19:49.36x1nuxok
19:50.55x1nuxI make a call, then prints a welcome message, then asks for a PIN number, the PIN is in the BD.
19:51.14mmlj4in mysql, you mean?
19:51.19x1nuxyeap
19:51.44x1nuxexten => 100,3,Authenticate(/etc/asterisk/pwd)  => is OK!
19:51.51x1nuxbut with Mysql ?
19:52.27mmlj4one way you can make this work is to use AGI, which can fetch the password from the DB
19:52.41x1nuxok
19:52.48x1nuxi have the script en AGI ...
19:52.50x1nuxso
19:52.55mmlj4I am doing the same thing, actually
19:53.17x1nuxok
19:53.20x1nuxi wait
19:53.21mmlj4I am using perl, but you can use any programming language you wish
19:53.30x1nuxphp or perl
19:53.33x1nuxno problem
19:53.35mmlj4either
19:54.07x1nuxiegther
19:54.57mmlj4I will not write the script for you, but here is what you need to do:
19:55.43x1nuxhey i have the script
19:56.11x1nuxbut don'w know, how put the line in the extension.conf  ..
19:56.11mmlj4pass caller ID to the script, which then retrieves the password, then pass the PIN back to the script, which you then use in the autheniticate command
19:57.08x1nuxso
19:57.39x1nuxexten => 100,3,AGI(script.agi) ?
19:57.40mmlj4er, let me fix that
19:57.48mmlj4pass caller ID to the script, which then retrieves the password, then pass the PIN back to the DIALPLAN, which you then use in the autheniticate command
19:58.07mmlj4yes
19:58.10mmlj4like that
19:58.15x1nuxok
19:58.17x1nuxumm
19:58.36x1nuxhow fix the callerid in the script, is my problem ...
19:58.37x1nux:s
19:59.36mmlj4yes, it's a problem
20:00.06x1nuxso the line in the extension.conf is: exten => 100,3,AGI(script.agi) ?
20:00.08x1nuxor
20:00.39x1nuxexten => 100,3,Authenticate(script.agi) ?
20:00.48mmlj4read the AGI chapter in the book, and look at the PHP AGI page on the wiki
20:01.06mmlj4no, not that way, that won't work
20:01.59x1nuxok
20:02.29thomasrri am keeping all kinds of crazie notices
20:02.39thomasrrlike:chan_sip.c:20761 sip_poke_noanswer: Peer 'kantoor2' is now UNREACHABLE!  Last qualify: 18
20:02.42thomasrrand
20:03.01thomasrrchan_sip.c:9923 sip_reg_timeout:    -- Registration for 'XXX@sip.voipbuster.com' timed out, trying again (Attempt #2) > doing dnsmgr_lookup for 'sip.voipbuster.com'
20:03.06thomasrrhow can i solve these issues?
20:03.20thomasrrbecause when it's not registered i can't make outgoing calls
20:03.27thomasrrthen i hear like bliep bliep bliep
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20:21.20GremlinHi, I'm trying to save money on a 20 seat ATA.
20:21.59drmessano~save money
20:22.00infobotACTION runs into a burning building and saves money from certain death. Is that enough?
20:22.02drmessano~savemoney
20:22.03infobot<Gremlin> It's okay, but I was hoping to save some money with a soldering iron and a bunch of sound cards.
20:22.18GremlinI come on, that was like two months ago.
20:22.52drmessanoor last week
20:23.27GremlinActually, I found out that idea would work if I soldered wires to each phone's mic and speaker and then to the sound cards, bypassing the DTMF stuff (no dial tone).
20:23.35thomasrranyone?
20:24.42GremlinI've actually abandoned all soldering ideas.
20:25.12drmessanoActually, we told you why your idea wouldnt work.. but I guess you remember it differently
20:25.55GremlinI remember perfectly... RJ11 phone lines are fundamentally different.
20:26.24MaliutaLapyou were going to power these things how?
20:26.28GremlinThe voltage is totally different, the phone pulls more current, et cetera.
20:26.48MaliutaLapfor a start
20:28.34GremlinBasically, the only way my idea would have worked would be hooking the speaker in the phone to the audio line out on the sound card and the putting a compatible microphone in the receiver (and hooking it to the line in on the sound card). At that point, it wouldn't be feasible.
20:28.44GremlinSo while my idea would work, it wouldn't actually save any money.
20:30.08drmessanoHow would the extensions ring and go on/off hook?
20:30.10MaliutaLapwe really should give infobot a "urmom" feature
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20:30.56GremlinSimple $1.00 head phones with a mic are the proper solution (tied to a soft SIP phone). I just need to figure out how to run 30 soft phones on one computer (which is easy).
20:30.57thomasrrhow can i solve timeout issues?
20:31.18thomasrrGremlin: you can use Telephone.app :+
20:31.22thomasrrand then 30 accounts
20:31.31MaliutaLapthomasrr: wait?
20:31.43MaliutaLapthomasrr: that solves most timeout issues ;)
20:31.48GremlinSimple: use a CLI Linux soft phone app.
20:31.55GremlinWith many consoles
20:32.14MaliutaLaphands Gremlin a fork()
20:32.34GremlinTo pick up a line, do Alt-F6 or whatever key combo to get to the console with the CLI softphone app running in the shell.
20:32.41thomasrrMaliutaLap: yes, indeed but when its not connected you can't call :)
20:33.12GremlinIt could support many phones simultaneously with one computer as long as the keyboard is centrally located.
20:33.26MaliutaLapthomasrr: the problem is network related
20:33.29drmessanoSo all 20 agents need to be near the button?
20:33.47drmessanoWhat if two calls come in at once?
20:33.54MaliutaLapthomasrr: you're seeing a timeout because you can't reach the host within the TTL of the packets
20:34.10thomasrrMaliutaLap: ooh
20:34.11MaliutaLapthomasrr: so get a better net connection for your SIP stuff :)
20:34.22Gremlindrmessano: That problem is solved, too. A PS/2 keyboard PCB with wired soldered to the contacts going to switched to activate the key combinations.
20:34.28MaliutaLapthomasrr: are you QoSing this link?
20:34.37thomasrrMaliutaLap: probalby not
20:34.57Gremlinthomasrr: Don't do VOIP on Dial-Up unless you're trying to save money.
20:35.09thomasrri am having cable and ADSL :P
20:35.14MaliutaLapthomasrr: because that might make a difference, give the SIP/RTP packets a higher priority and guaranteed bandwidth
20:35.17thomasrrgetting fibre
20:35.41thomasrrhttp://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Draytek,+SIP,+and+QoS :)
20:35.49MaliutaLapthomasrr: QoS is still a sane thing with any connection not dedicated to SIP/RTP traffic
20:36.09thomasrroh it will be dedicated later when i am getting fibre
20:36.23thomasrrADSL will then be backupline + SIP
20:36.32thomasrronly those slackers at the fibre isp...
20:36.40MaliutaLapthomasrr: there are other ways ... terminate your dsl/cable into an openbsd box it's QoS is good
20:36.57Gremlinthomasrr: Will this be for a business?
20:37.21MaliutaLapurges the .au NBN forward ... I need fibre to this place
20:38.42GremlinSewer systems would be great for broadband.
20:39.26MaliutaLapIP over TURD
20:40.09MaliutaLaprecommends IETF establish the new protocol
20:40.25thomasrrdifficult stuff
20:40.47thomasrrGremlin: yes, my business :P
20:40.48MaliutaLapthomasrr: you mean constipated?
20:41.17thomasrrhehe
20:44.18MaliutaLaphas a suggestion for dealing with Gremlin/MadMoney -> http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1410
20:44.20thomasrri will dig up the manual of the draytek
20:45.03MadMoneyHi, I'm Jim Cramer. Today, I'm going to tell you how to save money on capital gains taxes by buying high dividend yield stocks that are converting market capitalization into dividend payouts.
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20:48.55thomasrrMadMoney:
20:49.05thomasrrenough money here ;)
20:49.35thomasrrproblem is that it's invested in stuff :)
20:50.27thomasrreven clients would pay :P
20:50.43thomasrrnow they all pay after 100 days :( :(
20:50.54MadMoneyYou aren't trying to start a VoIP company off of ADSL are you?
20:51.10thomasrrno :)
20:51.17thomasrrjust want to get rid of this siemens pbx :P
20:52.49killfillhi. im having problems with analog TDM410P with fxo modules. When the person calling form PSTN hangs up, asterisk takes too long to know that. Do you guys recomend me something to read about it? any tips welcome
20:53.51MadMoneyfxo meaning Foreign Exchange Organization
20:55.06MaliutaLapthomasrr: ewww, I hate those things ... we looked at a way of doing that at one place I was at, was going to cost us a fortune to either do ISDN trunking to * or to put in a SIP card
20:55.07MadMoneyHow long does it take?
20:55.38MaliutaLapkillfill: do you have your zone settings correct?
20:55.38thomasrrMadMoney: it's a BizIP thing
20:55.45thomasrrwe got some fucked in the ass hard by Siemens
20:56.04MaliutaLapthomasrr: is there any other way to get it from them?
20:56.06thomasrrphones of 250-300$USD per piece :+
20:56.07MadMoneySO many interpretations
20:56.17killfillMaliutaLap, yup, defaultzone and loadzone in zaptel.conf are just fine.
20:56.41thomasrrMadMoney: you can use the resellers but if the phones ain't SIP compatibile
20:56.47killfilli guess that values, what they do is tell asterisk to ge tthe info from indications.cnf right?
20:56.49thomasrrand the PBX sucks balls so that it hangs everyday...
20:56.54MaliutaLapkillfill: and you have the signalling right?
20:57.02thomasrrnever again Siemens :P
20:57.26killfillMaliutaLap: got them with fxoks
20:57.30MaliutaLapthomasrr: the only siemens kit I like is the medical imaging stuff I get thrown into all the time
20:58.06MaliutaLapthomasrr: and I've even thrown up on that :)
20:58.16thomasrrlol
20:58.24thomasrrits nice
20:58.33thomasrrbut it's weekend no medical stuff now :)
20:58.47MaliutaLapkillfill: sounds odd. there are other ways that you could be detecting a remote PSTN hangup
20:58.47killfillMaliutaLap: i mean with fxsks, sorry...
20:58.55thomasrrtomorrow it's time again to play with stem cells again :>
20:59.11killfillMaliutaLap: other ways?
20:59.13MaliutaLapkillfill: not knowing where you are makes it a little difficult
20:59.21thomasrrcutting mice tomorrow :+
20:59.38MaliutaLapkillfill: the hangup could be a voltage change on the line, or other signalling
20:59.45killfillwhere am i?.. well im in Chile, sudamerica. [cl] exists in indications.conf
20:59.49MaliutaLapkillfill: it varies from country to country
21:00.15killfillyup, i know...
21:01.47killfilland more so, there seem to be difference between telcos in here.. :S
21:02.15thomasrrh:)
21:02.21thomasrrlovely
21:02.37thomasrr17 minutes to burn a DVD :(
21:03.52MaliutaLapkillfill: have you tried using a different signalling method? ls or gs?
21:04.30killfillMaliutaLap: not really. i have read ks is better in all cases than the others?
21:05.00thomasrrMaliutaLap: maybe the timeouts are also caused by my vmware machine
21:08.03MaliutaLapthomasrr: generally you're seeing an actual packet/session timeout
21:11.38MaliutaLapkillfill: I'm just digging for some info I know I've read
21:19.05thomasrr:)
21:20.46thomasrrbye
21:20.50thomasrrthanks all
21:20.55thomasrri will experiment with QoS tomorrow
21:21.18thomasrrmight will call the manufacturer of the router/modem thingy
21:28.37TheKmartTrollThe easiest way to fix problems with the connection is to threaten to cancel your service.
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21:37.28MaliutaLapkillfill: all the stuff I remember and am reading says it's in the zone info and/or the signal type
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22:13.56killfillhm...
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22:35.32MaliutaLapanyone from .au know about making a direct connection to an iinet SIP account?
22:40.44killfillMaliutaLap, ive try with loop start and the problem persist. :S, could not make ztcfg pass with ground start
22:43.01killfillasterisk detects the pstn pary haged up after like 2.5 rings.. :S
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22:53.26doolittleworkhi there anyone home?
22:54.39doolittleworkvoip is cahnging the world and then u get customers that is stuck in the past, does anyone know how one sets asterisk to dump cdr records to a com port?
22:55.13doolittleworki have a customer that wants his call reports in his old management system?
22:55.31killfillwhen asterisk (or zaptel) thinks the line is still ringing (and making the SIP phones ring), and its not, then i can hear that linea is not busy, and has the typical dial tone.
22:55.51killfillso io guess busydetect is not the option im looking for.. :P
22:56.13killfillis there something similar that could help asterisk better detect when a caller has already hanged up?
22:56.42doolittleworkchannel status
22:57.15killfillchannel status?
22:57.45killfilldoolittlework: that do you mean
22:58.17doolittleworkcheck if "chanIsAvailable"
22:59.27killfillhm..
22:59.33doolittleworkkillfill: check this out http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+variable+DIALSTATUS
22:59.46doolittleworkwhat do yo want to do killfill?
23:00.20doolittleworkare u using zap or sip?
23:00.34killfillhm..
23:00.40killfillzap.
23:01.13killfillwhen someone calls from pstn, and i dont answear any sip phone. Asterisk takes like 3 rings to detect that the caller has hangup.
23:01.46killfilland it happends bad thing when i get a new call within thouse 3 rings. (like callerId problem)
23:01.54doolittleworkno way of getting around that, belive me i tried
23:02.18killfillI know one of thouse linksys SPA works quite fine
23:02.31doolittleworku using diguim?
23:02.41killfillyup
23:02.51killfilli tries with a sangoma and clone too..
23:02.54killfilltried
23:03.25doolittleworkyip nalog sucks, get a bri and your problem will go away
23:03.31doolittleworkanalog
23:03.53killfillyeah i know.. i got analog or pri here. i really need analog.. :S
23:04.18doolittleworkto ry and speed it up you can disable cli, and put immediate=yes
23:04.30doolittleworktry
23:04.39killfilldisable cli?
23:04.45doolittleworkcallerid
23:05.27killfillAh, but i guess that will help on make it faster to ring. I dont really have problems with initial ringing (maybe its loosing 1 ring)
23:05.38killfillbut 1 is ok.
23:06.02killfillhalf really..
23:06.13doolittlework<PROTECTED>
23:06.38killfillnothing special, im putting the calls throught a queue
23:07.35doolittleworkbusydetect=? in zapata.conf?
23:08.14killfillhttp://www.pastebin.ca/1433375
23:08.23doolittleworkare u from US?
23:08.27killfillnope
23:08.32killfillcl..
23:08.33killfill:)
23:09.05doolittleworkuse pastebin.com for some reason i can't viewc.ca
23:10.00killfillhttp://pastebin.com/m6bf5d5bf
23:10.44killfillhanguponpolarityswitch=yes is getting ignored tho. i think asterisk 1.4.4 does not understand that.
23:10.55doolittleworkansweronpolarityswitch=yes  what does this do never seen it before
23:10.56killfill(next week ill upgrade)
23:11.05killfillits ignored.. :)
23:11.11killfillreaded it somewhere
23:11.41doolittleworkwhere is cl
23:12.16killfillChile, Sudamerica
23:12.26doolittleworki see
23:13.25doolittleworkimmediate is more for outgoing calls, so it's not going to help your incoming calls
23:15.33doolittleworki know i had this problem before and gave up in the long run, bri or pri, best bet. There is a anlog gateway that i had that worked like a charm, i think it way megatech
23:15.43doolittleworkno sry multitech
23:16.23killfillyeah, actually i loose the faith, time ago too. But i really need it now. ill keep searching :)
23:16.44doolittleworkgood luck
23:17.14killfillthanks.. :P
23:17.59doolittleworkyou are not using cellrouters on these channels?
23:18.49killfillnope, plain line
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23:20.52doolittleworkgood some cellrouter voltage drops on disconnects is so poor that it takes the card forever to realise that the chANNEL HAS BEEN DROPED
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23:23.20killfillwhat is zap show cadences for?..
23:23.38MikhailGorbachevIs Asterisk the most efficient way to go from SIP trunk to FXO lines?
23:24.06MikhailGorbachevMaybe I mean FXS
23:24.07killfilldoes it have something to do with indications.conf?..
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23:28.08doolittleworkindication is more tone related, ring tone, here in RSA its linke rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrring rrrrrrrrrrrrring, whereas in US its ring ring
23:28.40doolittleworkwaht do u mean MikhailGorbachev?
23:29.30killfillAh, nothing to do with detection of events on a line.
23:30.23doolittleworki dont think so , might be wrong
23:32.54doolittleworkyou might be onto something killfill
23:33.05doolittleworkcheck http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+config+indications.conf
23:34.45Maximohi my people, can you give me the instruc for setting up asterisk using Ubuntu?
23:34.56Maximoa desktop
23:35.57doolittleworkMaximo https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AsteriskOnUbuntu
23:36.11Maximodoolittlework: thanks alot
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23:46.05killfillwoot
23:46.11killfill[May 24 19:45:14] NOTICE[2710]: indications.c:505 ast_unregister_indication_country: Removed default indication country 'cl'
23:46.13doolittleworksounds good
23:46.21killfillhm... unregister?..

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