| 00:00.15 | LeddyHM | it was on voip-info |
| 00:00.22 | LeddyHM | I can't seem to find it atm |
| 00:00.45 | watchy | oh well i'll look for it eventually |
| 00:01.34 | watchy | is 1.6 stable? |
| 00:03.26 | [TK]D-Fender | watchy: Is any version really? |
| 00:03.43 | [TK]D-Fender | watchy: "relatively" seems to be the case so far. |
| 00:03.46 | watchy | heh |
| 00:03.58 | watchy | i shouldnt use it in production though right? |
| 00:04.08 | LeddyHM | http://trixbox.org/forums/vendor-moderated-forums/polycom/customize-trixbox-logo-polycoms |
| 00:04.09 | [TK]D-Fender | watchy: "pretty good for being so new to release" |
| 00:04.14 | LeddyHM | there's one with enought info |
| 00:04.29 | LeddyHM | I thought I saw somewhere it changed in 3+ though |
| 00:04.35 | LeddyHM | so ymmv |
| 00:05.24 | [TK]D-Fender | watchy: Does 1.6 offer you something you particularly need or desire |
| 00:05.25 | watchy | thanks |
| 00:05.27 | watchy | nope |
| 00:05.59 | [TK]D-Fender | watchy: Then I wouldn't both just yet. The dev cycle has also changed and I'm not sure 1.6.1 is due |
| 00:06.16 | [TK]D-Fender | (roughtly) |
| 00:06.19 | watchy | heres a dumb question, why the change from zaptel to dahdi |
| 00:07.35 | denon | http://blogs.digium.com/2008/05/19/zaptel-project-being-renamed-to-dahdi/ |
| 00:07.45 | watchy | i love you |
| 00:08.38 | denon | watchy: for future reference: http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=Zaptel+renamed+to+Dahdi |
| 00:08.42 | drmessano | Because the name Zaptel means "Son of a motherless goat" in the language of a people we just conquered |
| 00:10.01 | watchy | denon: very helpful link that explained it greatly |
| 00:10.10 | watchy | my lazyness appreciates it |
| 00:11.10 | denon | next time it'll cost you |
| 00:11.25 | LeddyHM | yeah |
| 00:11.31 | LeddyHM | I'll be sending you a bill |
| 00:11.54 | LeddyHM | for the bits of traffic my provider charged me to display your text on my screen wastefully |
| 00:11.58 | watchy | u take wow gold? |
| 00:13.00 | [TK]D-Fender | watchy: And for why they picked "DAHDI", its because Digium can't let Fonality get all the gayest names possible :p |
| 00:13.10 | watchy | haha |
| 00:13.42 | watchy | i wonder how well these sip paging/intercom systems work |
| 00:14.05 | drmessano | They're like a series of tubes |
| 00:14.07 | [TK]D-Fender | watchy: As well as you can expect a speakerphone to. |
| 00:14.20 | [TK]D-Fender | watchy: Its just a phone with no interface |
| 00:14.23 | watchy | they make a thing for legacy speakers |
| 00:14.32 | [TK]D-Fender | watchy: Same deal really.. |
| 00:14.44 | watchy | the school has a intercom system currently and we wanna replace the amp with a sip amp |
| 00:14.53 | drmessano | Ok |
| 00:15.12 | watchy | i forgot who made the equipment but it looks fun |
| 00:15.19 | [TK]D-Fender | watchy: No reason to replace the amp so much as the audio feed unit. |
| 00:15.30 | [TK]D-Fender | watchy: agnostic is a good thing... |
| 00:15.47 | watchy | you partying tonight tk? |
| 00:16.12 | [TK]D-Fender | watchy: Not so much, I'm at the tail end of a nasty bug that left me in convulsions for 2 days |
| 00:16.29 | watchy | wow, well enough alcohol should kill it |
| 00:16.38 | [TK]D-Fender | watchy: I'm pretty sure I'll go out, but the energy level is low |
| 00:16.57 | watchy | i'm sure enough redbull and pcp can accomidate you |
| 00:17.09 | [TK]D-Fender | watchy: Yes, replacing your blood with alcohol WILL kill AIDS even. Unfortunately it'll also kill YOU :p |
| 00:18.27 | [TK]D-Fender | SHIT, the only drug I DO take clashes with alcohol |
| 00:18.40 | watchy | r u depressed? |
| 00:19.01 | LeddyHM | he's on irc 24/7 |
| 00:19.06 | LeddyHM | if he wasn't he is now |
| 00:19.10 | [TK]D-Fender | LeddyHM: No, it only looks that way |
| 00:19.12 | watchy | haha |
| 00:19.26 | watchy | i started on irc when i was 13 |
| 00:19.28 | watchy | i'm 29 now |
| 00:19.35 | drmessano | O.o |
| 00:19.38 | watchy | i met my g/f of 8 years on irc |
| 00:19.47 | LeddyHM | I started before there was an efnet |
| 00:19.48 | watchy | of course we broke up like 7 years ago now |
| 00:19.57 | LeddyHM | we used "icb" back in the day |
| 00:20.02 | watchy | i started on dalnet, aka pedonet |
| 00:20.19 | watchy | got my whole isp perm banned from dalnet, so i went to undernet |
| 00:20.29 | drmessano | 13? |
| 00:20.32 | drmessano | 29? |
| 00:20.35 | drmessano | Your math is off |
| 00:20.39 | watchy | it couda been 15 |
| 00:21.02 | watchy | it was right before i graduated at 16 |
| 00:21.11 | LeddyHM | 13 != 16 |
| 00:21.14 | drmessano | 17 next? |
| 00:21.17 | drmessano | We gonna keep adding one |
| 00:21.23 | watchy | when was dalnet founded |
| 00:21.32 | drmessano | Thats too easy |
| 00:21.45 | drmessano | You gonna go back to the year and subtract one? |
| 00:21.51 | watchy | nah |
| 00:21.55 | watchy | i'm just curious if i'm off |
| 00:22.14 | drmessano | smells bovine feces |
| 00:22.15 | watchy | does it even exist anymore? |
| 00:22.26 | LeddyHM | july 94 |
| 00:22.30 | watchy | DALnet was founded in July 1994 by members of the EFnet #startrek channel. This new network was known as "dal's net", after the nickname |
| 00:22.40 | LeddyHM | right after slackware started |
| 00:22.42 | watchy | hmm i wonder how old i was in july of 94 |
| 00:23.01 | watchy | i was 14 in 94 |
| 00:23.01 | drmessano | So you were there from the beginning huh? |
| 00:23.05 | watchy | nope i wasnt |
| 00:23.19 | watchy | i wasnt around for efnet/undernet founding or dalnet |
| 00:23.36 | drmessano | Undernet started in 96 |
| 00:23.41 | watchy | i was a admin on dalnet and undernet though |
| 00:23.55 | watchy | i ran princeton.nj.us.undernet.org a few years ag |
| 00:23.56 | watchy | o |
| 00:24.20 | watchy | adn i opered and help admin defiant.co.uk.dal.net or whatever it was |
| 00:24.28 | watchy | maybe it was just defiant.uk.dal.net |
| 00:24.50 | LeddyHM | dang efnet started in 90 |
| 00:24.50 | [TK]D-Fender | New on Digg : "Barbie Doll Turns 50". %0? WTF! No way is she 50... |
| 00:24.56 | [TK]D-Fender | suspects plastic surgery |
| 00:25.14 | drmessano | LeddyHM: 90? Ok, then thats when *I* started on IRC |
| 00:25.23 | LeddyHM | me too |
| 00:25.26 | drmessano | Yeah, thats it |
| 00:25.30 | watchy | i know i've been online before 97 |
| 00:25.32 | LeddyHM | go netcom |
| 00:25.44 | watchy | i imagine i started in 96 |
| 00:25.56 | LeddyHM | I miss my netcom slip dialin connection |
| 00:25.57 | watchy | i bought my first domain in 97 though |
| 00:25.58 | drmessano | When you were 17? |
| 00:26.13 | drmessano | 13, 15, 16, 17.. |
| 00:26.16 | watchy | i was probably 16 |
| 00:26.19 | watchy | i was born in 79 |
| 00:26.21 | watchy | dec 5th |
| 00:26.21 | drmessano | Throw a dart |
| 00:26.29 | drmessano | Pick one |
| 00:26.32 | drmessano | Big dart |
| 00:26.34 | watchy | ok i'm really 9 |
| 00:26.34 | drmessano | LAWN dart |
| 00:27.02 | watchy | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:27.09 | watchy | thats when my first domain i ever bought was |
| 00:27.18 | LeddyHM | oct 14th 96 was my domain |
| 00:27.27 | watchy | i bought iniquity.net |
| 00:27.36 | watchy | and the creators of iniquity bbs wanted to sue me for it |
| 00:27.46 | LeddyHM | I created it so I could hodt my own mail server via that slip/ppp connection |
| 00:27.58 | LeddyHM | s/hodt/host |
| 00:28.04 | LeddyHM | otherwise I would have never got it |
| 00:28.07 | watchy | man i wish i could find out when i got my first dialup acct |
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| 00:28.17 | drmessano | Probably 1966 |
| 00:28.33 | watchy | well i do remember having access to the internet before it was "the internet" |
| 00:28.35 | watchy | back in the 40s |
| 00:28.38 | LeddyHM | we had a lot of local bbs's that I dialed into |
| 00:28.45 | LeddyHM | prior to the big boom |
| 00:28.52 | drmessano | I have been running Unix since August of 67 |
| 00:29.07 | watchy | i had to dial Long distance |
| 00:29.15 | LeddyHM | trying to remember that old "browser" that was the precursor to web surfing |
| 00:29.29 | drmessano | Gopher |
| 00:29.35 | LeddyHM | yeah |
| 00:29.37 | LeddyHM | that sucked |
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| 00:29.58 | LeddyHM | lynx was a godsend |
| 00:30.14 | LeddyHM | then slip/ppp dialups with your crappy browser |
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| 00:30.30 | watchy | i never had internet till we had a pop in my town |
| 00:30.31 | LeddyHM | man I'm to old |
| 00:30.40 | watchy | i live in a very small arkansas town so none of the bbs's had inet |
| 00:30.51 | watchy | i ran one of the local bbs's but we only had 3 |
| 00:30.55 | drmessano | I remember Netscape 3 and Real Player 2.0 |
| 00:31.04 | watchy | i remember trumpet winsock |
| 00:31.07 | watchy | what a piece of shit |
| 00:31.13 | LeddyHM | yeah that's what I used |
| 00:31.16 | [TK]D-Fender | Nutscrape... |
| 00:31.19 | [TK]D-Fender | shudders |
| 00:31.22 | LeddyHM | on win 3.1 |
| 00:31.25 | watchy | yea |
| 00:31.29 | drmessano | Trumpet was great |
| 00:31.40 | watchy | dude i had to of had internet before 96 |
| 00:31.45 | watchy | cause win95 wasnt even out |
| 00:31.57 | watchy | i might not of been on irc but i was online |
| 00:32.13 | watchy | i remember the first thing i did the first time i got online |
| 00:32.20 | LeddyHM | porn? |
| 00:32.21 | watchy | i yahoo searched acid ansi art |
| 00:32.22 | [TK]D-Fender | ASL? |
| 00:32.27 | drmessano | Ok |
| 00:32.31 | drmessano | Bullshit |
| 00:32.36 | watchy | whats bs |
| 00:32.40 | LeddyHM | there was no yahoo |
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| 00:32.44 | [TK]D-Fender | watchy: ACiD? Classic... but thats a BBS thing... |
| 00:32.51 | watchy | yea but i liked bbses still |
| 00:33.09 | watchy | yahoo was founded in 94 |
| 00:33.33 | watchy | so it was between 95 and 96 i first got online |
| 00:33.52 | LeddyHM | youngin |
| 00:33.55 | watchy | cause yahoo search existed when i first got online |
| 00:34.17 | drmessano | Yahoo didnt have search til later |
| 00:34.19 | watchy | i remember having to rename mirc.exe to another exe |
| 00:34.36 | watchy | because you couldnt run 2 irc networks with 1 |
| 00:34.43 | watchy | and it wouldnt run twice under the same exe |
| 00:35.27 | watchy | anyone remember freeagent? |
| 00:35.27 | [TK]D-Fender | I started with Altavista which was the shiznit back then.... |
| 00:35.38 | watchy | i used altavista but i didnt like it much |
| 00:36.24 | watchy | i used to get warez using freeagent back in the day |
| 00:37.18 | drmessano | I used Google back when it was called Lycos |
| 00:37.59 | watchy | i remember that search engine. |
| 00:38.05 | watchy | did they go bankrupt? |
| 00:38.14 | Dovid | there was a whole documentry on the internet. had in it about the search engines |
| 00:38.17 | Dovid | learnt a lot from t |
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| 00:38.23 | Dovid | it* |
| 00:38.27 | drmessano | Lycos is still around |
| 00:39.06 | watchy | i wonder how lycos is still around with so many startups that are actually useful failing |
| 00:39.48 | [TK]D-Fender | watchy: Because they have an established name |
| 00:39.55 | drmessano | Because a lot of startups suck |
| 00:40.35 | drmessano | www.nextdaytampons.com <--- Who needs tampons delivered tomorrow for a 30% markup? |
| 00:40.39 | watchy | haha |
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| 00:41.40 | watchy | i'm heading home, its time to get drunk and beat my wife |
| 00:42.11 | drmessano | Lemme guess, your wife is Morgan Fairchild? |
| 00:42.21 | watchy | actually i don't have a wife |
| 00:42.24 | watchy | just a cat |
| 00:43.16 | watchy | but i have been dating Scarlett Johanason |
| 00:43.25 | CpuID | lol |
| 00:44.06 | watchy | i need a sip client for an iphone |
| 00:44.25 | Dovid | watchy: Elance.com |
| 00:44.28 | watchy | ok i gotta go home before its to late to get drunk and harras chicks on myspace |
| 00:44.33 | Dovid | find some one that requested it and team up with them |
| 00:44.56 | [TK]D-Fender | watchy: Who are you kidding.... never too late for that! |
| 00:45.11 | Dovid | haha |
| 00:45.21 | watchy | tk: i agree but i like harrasing them when they might reply |
| 00:45.34 | watchy | i mean it sucks if i'm trying to bother them and its 2am and they arent online |
| 00:45.39 | watchy | i get no replys :( |
| 00:47.18 | drmessano | I've been on myspace since the late 80s |
| 00:47.42 | watchy | dude i founded myspace |
| 00:47.44 | watchy | i'm tom |
| 00:48.07 | drmessano | So that explains the douchebaggedness |
| 00:48.13 | [TK]D-Fender | watchy: Yeah... you just forgot to mention your first name.... Peeping ;) |
| 00:48.15 | drmessano | I apologize then |
| 00:48.30 | Dovid | TK: Is on the ball tonight |
| 00:48.55 | watchy | haha, i'm going home i'll miss you guys untill the new year is here |
| 00:49.04 | [TK]D-Fender | I am feeling a good bit better than the last 2-3 days... |
| 00:49.05 | watchy | have a good hold=iday dfolks |
| 00:49.29 | [TK]D-Fender | watchy: yuo=i t-oo |
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| 02:17.36 | steerpike | hi, what's a cheap residential voip provider? |
| 02:29.57 | steerpike | nevermind, i fixed my magicjack :) |
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| 02:30.01 | steerpike | happy new year |
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| 02:46.33 | _ShrikE | GO LSU! |
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| 03:10.58 | Dovid | Pinging TK |
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| 03:26.13 | jaytee | one of my friends was denied entry into Canada today attempting to visit friends for New Years Eve celebration. They found notes for his favorite role playing game and thought "it might be notes of a plot" God, both Canada and the US have become Facist police states run by the completely retarded |
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| 04:30.26 | mchou | hey anyone here have a motorola (vonage) vt-2442 ATA? How fully featured is it compared to PAP2? |
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| 05:24.11 | drmessano | HAPPY GNU YEAR! |
| 05:24.47 | stencil | happy new year, drmessano |
| 05:27.26 | carrar | HFNY |
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| 05:29.52 | orkid | happy new year est |
| 05:31.02 | drmessano | HAPPY WHATEVER-YOU-CELEBRATE-IN-CANADA orkid! |
| 05:31.24 | drmessano | HAPPY GUY LAFLEUR DAY! |
| 05:33.07 | carrar | that would be: Le Jour de l'An |
| 05:33.23 | coppice | the year of the LAN? :-\ |
| 05:33.31 | carrar | hahah |
| 05:33.35 | carrar | YES |
| 05:33.38 | coppice | the day of the LAN :-\ |
| 05:33.54 | jaytee | The Year of the Linux Desktop? |
| 05:33.58 | coppice | sounds like some sci-fi computers take over the world thing |
| 05:34.02 | jaytee | The Year of the Zune!!!! |
| 05:34.16 | coppice | the year the zunes died |
| 05:34.36 | coppice | although that apparently happened a little early |
| 05:35.05 | jaytee | everyone should send Microsoft an email saying, "There appears to be a bug in the spell checker for Microsoft Word. How do you spell EMBARRASSED?" |
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| 05:38.33 | jaytee | my favorite computer takes over the world thing was Colossus: The Forbin Project. The idea of a supercomputer first being programmed by punch cards and then becoming self aware and taking over the world was so humorous. |
| 05:39.35 | drmessano | If it could make punch cards, and program itself, then correct its own mistakes.. hmmm |
| 05:39.43 | drmessano | It would be almost like a woman |
| 05:40.02 | coppice | the day the earth stood still is funnier - the idea of Keanu Reaves as a highly evolved being is truly wacky |
| 05:40.14 | drmessano | "Whoa" |
| 05:53.12 | kerx | happy new years everyone, wish y'all a happy and successful 2009 |
| 05:55.36 | JAMMAN2110 | Ive finished my phone controlling the wall mounted display thing :) |
| 05:58.53 | jaytee | "Phone controlling the wall mounted display thing"? is it a Model 20 or the Model 25? |
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| 06:40.49 | [TK]D-Fender | Happy New Year all... signing off for the night |
| 06:43.26 | Nugget | 19 days, 10 hours, 16 minutes, and 34 seconds to go. |
| 07:03.24 | SkramX | anyone have support contact information for asterlink? such as... how do I recover my password? |
| 07:03.27 | C4thY | it must be a sad life to sit around and prove people are wrong on irc |
| 07:03.39 | C4thY | or two do their math for them |
| 07:03.42 | C4thY | to |
| 07:04.16 | C4thY | not even prove people wrong actually, just call them out when they are probably telling the truth just adding flavor to stories |
| 07:04.49 | JAMMAN2110 | C4thY - Agreed |
| 07:05.23 | C4thY | i just scrolled up |
| 07:05.40 | JAMMAN2110 | Eh |
| 07:05.41 | C4thY | and whats funny is ive known watchy on irc for 10 years and he did run undernet and efnet links |
| 07:05.42 | JAMMAN2110 | It happens a lot |
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| 07:06.18 | C4thY | im really a guy but i use a female nick so i dont have to get involved in the my epenis is bigger than your epenis contests |
| 07:06.35 | C4thY | anyway happy new year jamman |
| 07:08.00 | coppice | that just means *everyone's* penis is at least as big as yours |
| 07:08.25 | C4thY | i dont get it |
| 07:08.39 | JAMMAN2110 | You too C4thY |
| 07:10.54 | C4thY | i dont know about *everyone's* but ill bet money my eclitoris is bigger than your epenis |
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| 07:27.04 | drmessano | OMG A FEMALE NICKNAME |
| 07:28.56 | C4thY | here we go |
| 07:29.55 | C4thY | hurry up and vent your anger for whatever happened to you in the past |
| 07:30.09 | drmessano | What? |
| 07:30.11 | C4thY | unlike some people im not on irc 24/7 and if you expect me to read it it needs to be in the next 10-15 minutes |
| 07:30.28 | drmessano | Oh, you're one of "those" |
| 07:30.40 | C4thY | i just see you always trying to prove yourself and what not |
| 07:30.45 | C4thY | i figured you were going to do the same to me |
| 07:31.04 | drmessano | "I'm here on IRC, but I am too cool for IRC, so liek, whateva" |
| 07:31.06 | C4thY | sorta like a troll without the humor |
| 07:31.16 | drmessano | Hmmm |
| 07:31.36 | C4thY | dont get me wrong im all about slamming folks |
| 07:31.42 | C4thY | but again im not on irc 24/7 like you |
| 07:31.49 | C4thY | so its gotta be done in the next 10 minutes or so |
| 07:31.49 | drmessano | I am? |
| 07:31.56 | C4thY | well you were talking all day |
| 07:32.03 | drmessano | LOL |
| 07:32.03 | C4thY | i say something about it |
| 07:32.09 | C4thY | and you respond in 12 minutes or less |
| 07:32.16 | drmessano | Not sure how that's possible.. I was gone for most of it |
| 07:32.18 | C4thY | so either you were delivering a pizza or something |
| 07:32.19 | drmessano | But you're dead on |
| 07:32.21 | C4thY | sure |
| 07:32.44 | C4thY | so are you a real dr or do you just play one on irc? |
| 07:33.22 | drmessano | Well, I got off work at Burger King at 10AM and had to be at work at McDonalds at 2PM, so I had maybe 3 hours on IRC today |
| 07:33.37 | drmessano | But hey, "all day" is like being on IRC for 27 years, eh? |
| 07:33.46 | C4thY | i guess |
| 07:34.25 | C4thY | your keystroke to humor ratio on the fake workday line was very low |
| 07:34.27 | C4thY | try harder |
| 07:35.03 | C4thY | okay |
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| 07:35.05 | C4thY | 10 minutes is up |
| 07:35.09 | drmessano | Anyway.. Go back to your non-IRC life. You can try me, but you'll lose. I don't have time to destroy your belief system or make you suicidal right now, I am playing World Of Warcraft. |
| 07:35.10 | C4thY | err i mean "27 years" is up |
| 07:35.11 | drmessano | So, chow |
| 07:35.15 | C4thY | try you? |
| 07:35.23 | LancerNZ | SPACE INVADERS!!! î® î® î® î® î® î® ä·½ä· ä·½ä·!!! (lolz) ï |
| 07:35.24 | C4thY | its ciao you dumbass |
| 07:35.47 | drmessano | I before E, except after C |
| 07:35.54 | drmessano | Duh |
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| 07:35.58 | C4thY | theres no e in there |
| 07:36.08 | dandate | omg thank you i have arrived and there are live nerds here that i need to pay homage too |
| 07:36.10 | C4thY | so you do just play a dr on irc right? |
| 07:36.19 | drmessano | Are you trying to be witty? |
| 07:36.32 | dandate | no i am in desperate need of your wisdom |
| 07:36.32 | C4thY | im trying to ask you a question you dont seem to answer |
| 07:36.56 | drmessano | Sorry, like I said, World of Warcraft goin' on here. Got a big clan. |
| 07:36.59 | C4thY | no one likes ass kissers |
| 07:38.33 | C4thY | im not quite sure how this irc thing works since ive only been on here 27 years |
| 07:38.34 | dandate | hey guys, i need to set up a dedicated pbx system to run my inbound call center for www.newlineequity.com , i need to have up to 5 sales reps on and the caller should listen to a recording, then press 1 to go to an operator, can anyone tell me if the asteriskNOW package can handle this for me or do I have to go with business? |
| 07:38.41 | C4thY | but i think he joined the channel after you said something about world of warcraft |
| 07:39.15 | C4thY | what is asteriskNOW? |
| 07:39.36 | dandate | you know the open source pbx and telephony platform |
| 07:39.41 | C4thY | yes |
| 07:39.51 | dandate | i'm a noob lemme see if 'm being dumb |
| 07:39.52 | C4thY | you mean asterisk |
| 07:40.38 | C4thY | is asteriskNOW some sort of appliance distro? |
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| 07:40.59 | dandate | yes asteriskNOW is like easy install for tarded noobs like me |
| 07:41.11 | dandate | i'm just afraid it won't have the call center capabilities i need for my business |
| 07:41.12 | C4thY | i dont know if it supports an ivr or not |
| 07:41.18 | C4thY | but thats what youw ant to know |
| 07:41.27 | C4thY | does it support an IVR |
| 07:41.40 | C4thY | interactive voice response |
| 07:41.55 | C4thY | that sounds like a presales question for whomever distributes that software |
| 07:41.58 | dandate | imma look into that now i didn't know what that term meant yet |
| 07:42.09 | dandate | actually asteriskNOW is free open source |
| 07:42.24 | dandate | so i dno if i'd get much pre-sales help ya know |
| 07:42.29 | C4thY | ya |
| 07:45.45 | C4thY | dandate |
| 07:46.06 | C4thY | i see on the screenshots a voicemenu |
| 07:46.12 | C4thY | i wonder if thats an ivr |
| 07:47.02 | C4thY | oh it says offer usability feedback to this channel |
| 07:47.43 | dandate | i saw that the asteriskNOW contains IVR so thats good |
| 07:47.51 | dandate | would it beable to forward calls to my work from home employees? |
| 07:47.51 | C4thY | ya thats what you want |
| 07:48.10 | C4thY | you mean if they arent in the office? |
| 07:48.23 | dandate | well its my home office, all of my sales reps take calls from their own homes |
| 07:48.33 | C4thY | yes |
| 07:48.48 | C4thY | you setup a sip extension and then they would login to that box depending on their endpoint device |
| 07:48.55 | dandate | ok now the big question, att told me voip was not available in my area of san francisco, does this mean i can't run my own server? |
| 07:49.03 | C4thY | mileage will vary depending on port forwarding with your router etc |
| 07:49.15 | C4thY | probably means they dont offer voip as one of their services |
| 07:49.22 | dandate | ok thats what i thought |
| 07:49.35 | C4thY | you can run your own server but i think you should take care to do it right |
| 07:49.42 | C4thY | like traffic shaping |
| 07:49.45 | C4thY | do you do much file transfers |
| 07:49.47 | C4thY | p2p etc |
| 07:49.58 | dandate | so my reps used end point devices ranging from cell phones to landlines to skype phones, would all of these be compatable? |
| 07:50.03 | dandate | no file transfers |
| 07:50.15 | C4thY | then depending on your bandwidth you shouldnt have any difficulties |
| 07:50.19 | dandate | i actually have 2 internet connections here, a DSL and a cable modem, i was going to dedicate the cable to just run the phone lines |
| 07:50.23 | C4thY | i use qos or quality of service at my house |
| 07:50.39 | dandate | and the DSL to spam!! |
| 07:50.39 | C4thY | you can forward an extension to a cell phone |
| 07:50.41 | dandate | bwahahah |
| 07:50.50 | dandate | i'm kidding... |
| 07:50.52 | C4thY | so if someone presses 2 for tom |
| 07:50.57 | C4thY | it will ring his cell phone |
| 07:51.07 | C4thY | same with a land line with a real number |
| 07:51.21 | dandate | i see |
| 07:51.34 | C4thY | that should be fairly easy to setup i saw follow mes in the screenshots |
| 07:51.36 | dandate | now this has automatic call distribution so people can sit on hold for 10 minutes and get juiced up for the close right? |
| 07:51.40 | C4thY | ill have to download the appliance and look at it |
| 07:52.00 | C4thY | ya provided theres no call dropping going on |
| 07:52.17 | dandate | meaning user hangs up or internet problems? |
| 07:52.25 | C4thY | we run a type of smoke and mirrors operation like youre talking about where everyone works out of their house |
| 07:52.41 | C4thY | or the cell phone call drops |
| 07:52.46 | C4thY | i dont get hang ups |
| 07:52.51 | C4thY | ill get jitter sometimes |
| 07:53.13 | C4thY | but with people on cell phones its sorta hard for me to distinguish at the time if its a cell phone reception issue or the phone system |
| 07:53.38 | dandate | do you get much issues from the phone system? |
| 07:53.49 | C4thY | nope |
| 07:53.55 | C4thY | but |
| 07:54.12 | C4thY | i dial out on a pri with 8 phone lines |
| 07:54.22 | C4thY | how are you going to dial out? |
| 07:54.28 | dandate | i got into this because my reps were pressuring me to get a virtual pbx but all these places had "as seen on tv" on them so i knew they were scams. i had to figure out how to do this myself |
| 07:54.48 | dandate | we don't dial out its all inbound |
| 07:54.51 | dandate | but if we were to dial out would that be an issue? |
| 07:54.55 | C4thY | well |
| 07:54.59 | C4thY | how are people going to be dialing in? |
| 07:55.26 | dandate | they dial a phone line that we advertise which would forward to my dedicated server which would then route to my reps |
| 07:55.43 | C4thY | so att will have hte number and be forwarding it to you or what? |
| 07:55.55 | dandate | right i have comcast digital voice |
| 07:56.03 | C4thY | so its just 1 phone line? |
| 07:56.07 | dandate | 2 phone lines |
| 07:56.13 | C4thY | soc heck this |
| 07:56.21 | C4thY | if someone calls the pbx and it rings a rep on their cell |
| 07:56.27 | C4thY | its goign to tie up that line |
| 07:56.40 | C4thY | but |
| 07:56.45 | C4thY | if its digital voice |
| 07:56.53 | C4thY | you just plug in analog phones though? |
| 07:57.02 | dandate | yes i'm using analog |
| 07:57.04 | C4thY | or do you have to use a digital phone? |
| 07:57.17 | dandate | n oits using standard phone connecitons |
| 07:57.34 | dandate | but i can log into comcast.net and have my phone lines forward to whatever for free unlimmited all time |
| 07:57.47 | C4thY | you could just get some ata card or devices |
| 07:57.57 | C4thY | let me show you |
| 07:58.08 | dandate | you mean an ata linksys to rout my analog to the computer? |
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| 08:16.54 | Jabess | Happy New Year!! |
| 08:17.29 | jql | yes, happy new year from GMT-8! |
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| 08:19.12 | Jabess | every body is sleeping |
| 08:19.13 | Jabess | jeje |
| 08:19.38 | Nasra | happy new year...but no yet have my system in place just reading that this year..will have my system up and running just doing lots of reading |
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| 08:21.59 | Jabess | hehehe |
| 08:23.51 | x86 | happy new year |
| 08:25.30 | Ericounet | Bonne Année :) |
| 08:26.37 | jql | feliz ano nuevo and whatnot |
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| 09:08.50 | DelphiWorld | hi asterisk users |
| 09:08.57 | DelphiWorld | how are you and the asterisk project ? |
| 09:09.38 | DelphiWorld | any asterisk Developers conference to joint ? |
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| 09:21.01 | tzafrir_laptop | DelphiWorld, we're fine, thank you |
| 09:21.30 | tzafrir_laptop | DelphiWorld, what sort of developers conference? what are you interested in developing? |
| 09:23.59 | DelphiWorld | yes, sur |
| 09:25.17 | DelphiWorld | tzafrir: i'm sur that i'm your friend in ICQ! |
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| 09:28.33 | DelphiWorld | any voice conference ? |
| 09:31.44 | DelphiWorld | any one here have a ready to use asterisk based PBX ? |
| 09:31.50 | DelphiWorld | i want to try the IAX Protocol |
| 09:32.40 | tzafrir_laptop | DelphiWorld, there are a number of those |
| 09:33.18 | DelphiWorld | tzafrir_laptop: please tel me |
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| 09:34.21 | tzafrir_laptop | There are a number of freepbx-based distributions. Though I think that FreePBX is a bit overly-complicated, |
| 09:34.41 | tzafrir_laptop | and would get in your way if you want to understand how to operate Asterisk |
| 09:35.03 | DelphiWorld | tzafrir i'm sur that you forgot me |
| 09:35.18 | DelphiWorld | i'm the blind user that asked about LINUX accessibility |
| 09:36.44 | tzafrir_laptop | How have you managed eventually? |
| 09:37.28 | DelphiWorld | no realy accessible |
| 09:37.38 | DelphiWorld | no all PBX Distribution have GNOME installed |
| 09:37.53 | DelphiWorld | and no all GNOME based distribution accept the orca screen reader |
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| 09:42.04 | rethus | how can i run a agi command on cmd (CLI)? |
| 09:42.06 | DelphiWorld | otherwise, any asterisk for windows ? |
| 09:42.15 | UQlev | DelphiWorld: do you want to try iax-client or asterisk to peer? |
| 09:42.28 | DelphiWorld | both! |
| 09:42.36 | DelphiWorld | realy i want to try asterisk IAX Protocol |
| 09:43.01 | UQlev | DelphiWorld: for Windows you may try yate |
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| 09:43.13 | UQlev | it also supports iax2 |
| 09:45.38 | DelphiWorld | i have yate now! |
| 09:45.41 | DelphiWorld | i setup it now |
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| 09:52.09 | rethus | how can i set a agi command to cli (cmd) |
| 09:54.51 | hi365 | rethus: what are you trying to do? |
| 09:55.53 | rethus | i have a php-programm and want to start monitoring with phpagi-asmanager.php ... for checking command i want to try it in asterisk-cli |
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| 10:05.00 | hi365 | rethus: while you can send cli command from the manage, I dont think you can send manager command from the cli |
| 10:05.10 | hi365 | but you can do it quite simple from telnet |
| 10:05.10 | Nugget | telnet is eeeeeeevil! |
| 10:05.48 | rethus | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:06.22 | hi365 | anyone know of any way to check from the dialplan if the zap/dahdi channel is a pri or not? |
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| 11:19.33 | Dovid | morning ev1 |
| 11:19.38 | Dovid | anyone here from germany / |
| 11:19.45 | Dovid | ?* |
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| 11:48.26 | DelphiWorld | please any one here have a IAX URI to call ? |
| 11:48.37 | DelphiWorld | i want to try out the IAX Protocol |
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| 12:09.31 | rethus | where can i change my agi-passwort? |
| 12:09.43 | rethus | i had cahnge it befor... but i dont remember |
| 12:11.34 | rethus | i have found it... /etc/asterisk/manager.conf |
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| 12:51.04 | zeeesh | how can i check which zaptel version is running? |
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| 13:16.49 | tzafrir_laptop | zeeesh, cat /sys/module/zaptel/version |
| 13:17.49 | tzafrir_laptop | err.... /me wonders why nobody answered DelphiWorld's question above ("RTFM 'demo' in sample config") |
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| 13:38.49 | [gnubie] | i wonder if snom's sip client embedded on their hardphones is open source? |
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| 13:58.02 | kerx | anyone have experience with astmanproxy ? |
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| 14:30.49 | rethus | if i call into asterisk, the channel named like this.... SIP/anlage-12345 |
| 14:31.02 | rethus | where can i set the name of a channel |
| 14:35.04 | [TK]D-Fender | rethus: the channel name is formatted by the tech & peer that it matched plus a randomseries of chars at the end. |
| 14:35.15 | [TK]D-Fender | reYou do not set it, it just gets set |
| 14:35.28 | [TK]D-Fender | rethus: What are you trying to accomplish? |
| 14:37.41 | rethus | [TK]D-Fender: i wan't to use agi (Monitor and stopMonitor |
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| 14:38.13 | [TK]D-Fender | rethus: Ok, I don't see where the channel name has any impact on this... |
| 14:39.53 | rethus | on phpagi-asmanager.php this is needed |
| 14:39.58 | rethus | have a look here: |
| 14:40.30 | rethus | http://rethus.pastebin.com/d1135fb59 |
| 14:41.15 | [TK]D-Fender | rethus: Ok, which channel do you want to record? |
| 14:41.44 | rethus | following situation: |
| 14:42.31 | rethus | i have a sip-client (twinkle) on my pc ... this connection (named: anlage) i want to record |
| 14:43.22 | [TK]D-Fender | rethus: Why can't you use Monitor in the dialplan like normal? |
| 14:43.55 | kerx | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eC14GonZnU |
| 14:44.04 | kerx | wups, sorry wrong chan |
| 14:44.08 | rethus | cause its an live-Conference... Anybody can call in to listen... |
| 14:45.11 | [TK]D-Fender | rethus: rethus Monitor is for recording calls to a file, not "listening in" |
| 14:45.20 | rethus | normaly i want to record all in conf-rom 1 |
| 14:45.42 | rethus | so if the speaker starts, sip-client (anlage) is connecting... |
| 14:45.52 | rethus | all people can call into conference 1 to listen... |
| 14:45.59 | rethus | sometimes a caller can anser... |
| 14:46.07 | rethus | i mean answer |
| 14:46.22 | rethus | and all what happend in conference 1 schoul be recorded |
| 14:46.37 | rethus | hope u understand what i mean |
| 14:47.22 | [TK]D-Fender | You want to record a Meetme? |
| 14:50.06 | rethus | i don't now... i want to record all what spoken in a conference-room |
| 14:50.56 | [TK]D-Fender | What "conference room"? |
| 14:51.43 | rethus | no. 1 |
| 14:52.13 | jasonwoot | rethus: monitoring meetme channels has never worked right for me... it spools correctly but when the call ends, it's deleted from the spool folder and not written to the monitor folder |
| 14:52.15 | [TK]D-Fender | rethus: What is this "confrence room" and where does it come from? Pastebin a sample because you are extremely unclear |
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| 14:52.47 | jasonwoot | rethus: my only work around for this is to dial into the conf call from a trunk using an extension that is set to monitor, which creates another monitor file |
| 14:54.38 | rethus | u can show all clients in a conference-room if u type meetme list 1 (all clients in Room 1) |
| 14:55.57 | rethus | jasonwoot: jeah. monitor delete all files if user hang up.. so u have to use MixMonitor |
| 14:57.07 | [TK]D-Fender | rethus: Show me the call you want monitored |
| 14:57.27 | rethus | i don't understand what u mean |
| 14:57.58 | [TK]D-Fender | rethus: when your Twinkle soft-phone places a particular call you said you want it recorded. Show me the call. |
| 14:59.10 | rethus | this comes up on callin into asterisk with twinkle |
| 14:59.10 | rethus | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:59.10 | rethus | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:01.04 | [TK]D-Fender | rethus : Use Monitor Option "r" 'r' -- Record conference (records as ${MEETME_RECORDINGFILE} using format ${MEETME_RECORDINGFORMAT}). Default filename is meetme-conf-rec-${CONFNO}-${UNIQUEID} and the default format is wav. |
| 15:01.31 | rethus | this is no option... i need to handle the recording via php-gui |
| 15:01.47 | [TK]D-Fender | rethus: You don't even have to set anything if you can live with the default naming |
| 15:01.54 | rethus | i have this befor... its not usable for my needs |
| 15:02.06 | [TK]D-Fender | rethus: rethus Why does it have to be via AMI? |
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| 15:02.16 | rethus | i use a php-gui |
| 15:02.23 | [TK]D-Fender | rethus: Doesn't matter |
| 15:02.31 | rethus | and i have to handle this over php-gui |
| 15:02.39 | [TK]D-Fender | rethus: Why doesn't just using the "r" option work? |
| 15:03.35 | rethus | r option start if connecting... but i have to make some breaks (means new files) in one connection |
| 15:03.58 | rethus | first 30 minutes speaker 1... second 30 minutes speaker 2 |
| 15:04.03 | [TK]D-Fender | rethus: what does "breaks in one connection" mean? I don't see what you're getting at |
| 15:04.06 | rethus | bat all without disconnect twinkle |
| 15:05.05 | [TK]D-Fender | rethus: What will trigger this AMI call? |
| 15:05.07 | rethus | i have a phone session of 1 hour |
| 15:05.07 | rethus | speaker 1 (file 1) |
| 15:05.07 | rethus | speaker2 (file2) |
| 15:05.07 | rethus | after 1 hour d(disconnect twinkle) |
| 15:05.28 | [TK]D-Fender | rethus: I think I understand your goal now, now we need to see where this takes place. |
| 15:06.16 | rethus | it's a little bit hard to tell what i mean :-) |
| 15:06.28 | [TK]D-Fender | rethus: No, I understand this now. |
| 15:06.36 | rethus | ok |
| 15:06.45 | [TK]D-Fender | rethus: What will trigger the start & stop of the recording? |
| 15:07.20 | rethus | i have a gui... there is a record-button that calls monitor () |
| 15:10.04 | [TK]D-Fender | rethus: Ok, then you can do something like System(echo ${CHANNEL} > /etc/asterisk/channeltorecord) and then your PHP script can just read that in to know the last channel name is. |
| 15:10.24 | [TK]D-Fender | rethus: And you can then pass it to monitor |
| 15:11.00 | rethus | ok, ill try it |
| 15:13.40 | rethus | but how do i get my channelname first time? |
| 15:15.10 | [TK]D-Fender | rethus: ${CHANNEL} IS your channel's name |
| 15:16.49 | [TK]D-Fender | rethus: Your Trinkle call should call that System() command right before entereing the MeetMe |
| 15:17.24 | rethus | ahh u mean system() insert into extensions.conf? |
| 15:18.58 | [TK]D-Fender | rethus: Yes |
| 15:20.06 | rethus | not working |
| 15:20.14 | [TK]D-Fender | rethus: Show me |
| 15:20.38 | rethus | ohh... one moment... i have the wonk caller... i have [incomming] |
| 15:22.46 | rethus | in my sip.conf i have context=phone |
| 15:23.23 | rethus | in my extensions.conf i have: |
| 15:23.23 | rethus | exten => 100,1,Answer() |
| 15:23.23 | rethus | exten => callin,n,System(echo ${CHANNEL} > /etc/asterisk/channeltorecord); |
| 15:23.23 | rethus | exten => 100,n,MeetMe(1,1AMwq) |
| 15:23.23 | rethus | exten => 100,n,Hangup() |
| 15:23.35 | rethus | ups callin |
| 15:23.41 | [TK]D-Fender | rethus: Make sure the only your Twinkle will call that exten |
| 15:24.03 | [TK]D-Fender | rethus>exten => callin,n,System(echo ${CHANNEL} > /etc/asterisk/channeltorecord); <- what the hell is callin? |
| 15:24.23 | rethus | now it works :-) |
| 15:24.39 | rethus | my channel is in channeltorecord (y) |
| 15:24.47 | [TK]D-Fender | rethus: many a SPEACIAL exten that your Twinkle will call that will do that system call and then enter the conference |
| 15:25.13 | [TK]D-Fender | rethus: Thimake* |
| 15:25.15 | [TK]D-Fender | make* |
| 15:26.06 | rethus | isn't it right..like above... system() bevore meetme() ?! Or what u mean with SPECIAL exten? |
| 15:26.19 | rethus | i have change callin with 100 and it works |
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| 15:27.07 | [TK]D-Fender | rethus: Ok, but that exten should only be called by your Twinkle soft-phone, not by anything else |
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| 15:28.03 | Mahmoud | best sip soft phone on windows? |
| 15:28.12 | Mahmoud | that YOU like |
| 15:28.12 | [TK]D-Fender | maheyeBeam |
| 15:28.21 | rethus | yes, phones are only for my twinkle at this time... all other comes over [incomming] |
| 15:28.40 | Mahmoud | [TK]D-Fender, yeah, it's great, but not free. and lite version annoys me by limited functions |
| 15:28.41 | [TK]D-Fender | rethus: Ok, then if only twinkle calls this code you should be fine |
| 15:28.55 | [TK]D-Fender | Mahmoud: You should have specified then |
| 15:29.27 | rethus | thx a lot. |
| 15:29.28 | [TK]D-Fender | Mahmoud: Zoiper isn't too bad, and there is Ekiga as well |
| 15:29.42 | Mahmoud | [TK]D-Fender, currently downloading ekiga :) |
| 15:29.58 | Mahmoud | zoiper sucks, it's slow and limited too |
| 15:30.14 | rethus | jasonwoot say someting abot removing recorded file if user hangup... is this in my case also? |
| 15:30.47 | rethus | or does the record stay as long as twinkle is online? |
| 15:30.59 | [TK]D-Fender | rethus: Should |
| 15:31.18 | [TK]D-Fender | rethus: There is no reason to erase on hangup. Thats crazy |
| 15:32.22 | rethus | [TK]D-Fender: but happends nevertheless?? or u mean the files doesn't be erase? |
| 15:32.49 | [TK]D-Fender | rethus: Just stop. Now. Go try this for a while and let us know. |
| 15:33.18 | rethus | ok, i have a try |
| 15:49.11 | eppigy | hello |
| 15:49.14 | eppigy | i am dave |
| 15:52.00 | rethus | hello i'm sam |
| 15:52.01 | rethus | :-D |
| 15:52.38 | eppigy | :D |
| 15:53.17 | zeeesh | is there any pastebin .. i want to show my some error ? |
| 15:53.56 | stencil | ~pb |
| 15:53.57 | jbot | [~pb] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste, or , http://bin.cakephp.org/ |
| 15:55.58 | rethus | [TK]D-Fender: so it works now... but how can i erase the file "channelofrecord" by hangup? |
| 15:56.14 | rethus | can i put a statement after [phone].... hangup()? |
| 15:56.52 | [TK]D-Fender | rethus: you could use the "h" exten in the same context and do a system call.... |
| 15:58.38 | zeeesh | while compling asterisk-1.4.22 on centos 5.2 getting this error at http://paste.lisp.org/display/72900. |
| 15:59.31 | rethus | [TK]D-Fender: i don't understand... do you have an example |
| 15:59.50 | [TK]D-Fender | rethus: Go read the list of "Asterisk Standard Extensions" |
| 16:01.31 | rethus | where can i find it? |
| 16:02.36 | dlewis | [TK]D-Fender: any idea why I get this error: http://www.mibbit.com/pb/epM5Ry |
| 16:02.58 | [TK]D-Fender | rethus: Wiki, the Book... |
| 16:03.35 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: And this is...? |
| 16:03.49 | dlewis | i'm trying to connect to a VOIP provider and it's not connecting... |
| 16:03.58 | dlewis | works well on my test PBX, but not on my other one. |
| 16:04.14 | dlewis | here is the traffice from my "working" pbx: http://www.mibbit.com/pb/yfq5N1 |
| 16:05.05 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: Please show * SIP debug... |
| 16:07.40 | dlewis | http://www.mibbit.com/pb/08HUU6 |
| 16:07.49 | dlewis | [TK]D-Fender: that's the sip debug |
| 16:08.41 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: Contact: <sip:8457840250@127.0.0.1> <- talk to yourself much? |
| 16:09.07 | dlewis | hmm |
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| 16:09.55 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: 'cause they sure can't answer back |
| 16:11.49 | dlewis | http://www.mibbit.com/pb/nmrMZi |
| 16:11.56 | dlewis | that's the SIP debug from the working machine |
| 16:12.43 | dlewis | looks similiar |
| 16:12.56 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: Contact: <sip:8457840250@192.168.80.249> <- and here you're telling them just a PRIVATE IP? Go read : |
| 16:12.58 | [TK]D-Fender | ~sipnat |
| 16:12.58 | jbot | [~sipnat] Quick guide on configuring * + SIP behind NAT : http://www.aocomputing.net/?p=3 , otherwise check the WIKI at http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+SIP+NAT+solutions |
| 16:13.19 | dlewis | hmm |
| 16:13.30 | dlewis | so, you're saying that the <sip:8457840250@192.168.80.249> is wrong? |
| 16:13.39 | dlewis | it registers correctly |
| 16:13.50 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: How ton earth is someone on the internet supposed to contact that IP? |
| 16:14.09 | dlewis | it registers. |
| 16:14.16 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: I also don't trust your routing, firewalls etc at this point |
| 16:16.26 | WilliamK | dlewis, just because it registers doesn't make it correct |
| 16:17.02 | [TK]D-Fender | Reliably Transmitting (NAT) to 67.106.133.198:5060: <- Not working |
| 16:17.14 | [TK]D-Fender | Reliably Transmitting (no NAT) to 67.106.133.198:5070: <- working |
| 16:17.23 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: Not the same PORT. |
| 16:17.30 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: And different NAT claims |
| 16:18.03 | [TK]D-Fender | Which could be legit, but why start trusting stuff now.... |
| 16:18.32 | dlewis | ok |
| 16:26.21 | rethus | one question to MixMonitor() |
| 16:26.37 | rethus | how can i tell mixmonitor... which channel to record? |
| 16:26.54 | rethus | by monitor, there is a channel-param... why don't by mixmonitor |
| 16:27.09 | [TK]D-Fender | rethus: MixMonitor records your next DIAL |
| 16:27.30 | [TK]D-Fender | rethus: You are being VERY vague between DIALPLAN APPS and AMI COMMANDS. |
| 16:27.45 | [TK]D-Fender | rethus: rethus do no mix these up |
| 16:29.26 | rethus | but monitor() -function description says: use mixmonitor for combinated recording (would be the better way) |
| 16:29.59 | rethus | http://www.das-asterisk-buch.de/1.0/applikationen-monitor.html (german language) |
| 16:30.33 | [TK]D-Fender | rethus: that is talking about the Monitor DIAPLAN APP, not the Monitor AMI COMMAND |
| 16:31.41 | rethus | but its the same command... ony different way to use it... isn't it? |
| 16:32.04 | file | the end result is the same, Monitor is started on a channel |
| 16:33.03 | [TK]D-Fender | rethus: No, it is not the same. AMI targets a channel that is already in progress. the dialplan app is used in your DIALPLAN before you do a DIAL |
| 16:33.13 | [TK]D-Fender | retuTotally different rules. |
| 16:33.32 | rethus | ok. |
| 16:33.33 | rethus | on normal monito() the record is gentle... on mixmonitor is a parm to set the value up... not so on monitor !? |
| 16:33.34 | [TK]D-Fender | rethus: they just share a similar name which means nothing |
| 16:34.16 | [TK]D-Fender | rethus: ... huh?! |
| 16:34.44 | file | [TK]D-Fender: technically both Monitor and MixMonitor have no concept of what is happening to the channel, they just hook themselves into sending/receiving of the audio frames and write them out |
| 16:35.13 | file | oh, misread |
| 16:35.18 | file | I should have slept in. |
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| 16:35.36 | [TK]D-Fender | file: Well it doesn't start monitoring until its bridged to something else, so you can't normally just monitor a caller go through an IVR and listen to him swearing... |
| 16:35.45 | file | [TK]D-Fender: you can. |
| 16:36.13 | [TK]D-Fender | file: Yes, there are ways to fake this... but that takes other trickery |
| 16:36.15 | dlewis | [TK]D-Fender: NAT seems to be set up correctly. |
| 16:36.25 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: Well the port is clearly different |
| 16:36.29 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: Go fix it it |
| 16:36.45 | file | [TK]D-Fender: I know for sure that if you call MixMonitor it will start recording from that point, it doesn't care if you are bridged or not... you can do a Playback right after and it will record both sides |
| 16:36.49 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: Just like when you phone people, get the number right <- |
| 16:37.02 | [TK]D-Fender | file: Really? interesting |
| 16:37.15 | [TK]D-Fender | file: That is definitely news to me... |
| 16:38.09 | rethus | [TK]D-Fender: now in understand... agi ist simlar with manager - commands in asterisk CLI |
| 16:38.40 | [TK]D-Fender | file: Neither mention anything about being linked to Dial, but you can always see it getting triggered in there.... Something is wrong here... |
| 16:38.59 | file | [TK]D-Fender: what do you mean triggered? |
| 16:39.06 | [TK]D-Fender | rethus: Correct. AGI is for using an external script to process a call. |
| 16:39.58 | rethus | jes, but its a direct access to CLI "Manager" |
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| 16:40.04 | dlewis | [TK]D-Fender: meaning? |
| 16:40.20 | rethus | all "manager"-Commands are usable by agi |
| 16:40.35 | [TK]D-Fender | file: http://pastebin.com/m11701621 <- why do we see it start recording only after the dial? |
| 16:40.37 | file | [TK]D-Fender: there is an option to make it only happen when bridged to another channel for MixMonitor though, I forgot about that |
| 16:40.55 | file | oh |
| 16:41.03 | file | because it creates another thread to do the recording |
| 16:41.10 | file | and it takes a bit of time for that to happen |
| 16:41.32 | [TK]D-Fender | file: So if I were to do other stuff it would indeed really be recording it? |
| 16:41.37 | file | yes |
| 16:41.39 | file | give it a go |
| 16:42.07 | [TK]D-Fender | file: I will definitely have to try that some time... the results have always looked like it was not the case :) |
| 16:42.33 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: Fix the damn port, they can't hear you on 5060! |
| 16:42.47 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: What part of this was not painfully clear? |
| 16:43.19 | jaytee | calm thyself, grasshopper! deep slow breaths.....Ommmmmmmm, ommmmmmm |
| 16:43.23 | dlewis | [TK]D-Fender: I've changed the port to 5070 in the trunk (via 'port=5070') |
| 16:43.56 | drmessano | oh man |
| 16:43.57 | [TK]D-Fender | [11:17]<[TK]D-Fender>Reliably Transmitting (NAT) to 67.106.133.198:5060: <- Not working |
| 16:43.59 | [TK]D-Fender | [11:17]<[TK]D-Fender>Reliably Transmitting (no NAT) to 67.106.133.198:5070: <- working |
| 16:44.01 | [TK]D-Fender | [11:17]<[TK]D-Fender>dlewis: Not the same PORT. |
| 16:44.09 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: Feel free to show me a new matching set |
| 16:44.20 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: No worries yet. |
| 16:44.39 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender, Happy New Year! |
| 16:44.41 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: Bug has taken a new turn and I have 0 apetite |
| 16:45.09 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: I'm becoming somewhat drained |
| 16:45.44 | drmessano | HAPPY GNU YEAR |
| 16:45.47 | jaytee | try and get something into you. chicken broth or something. and ginger ale is good for an upset stomach when you've got the flu |
| 16:45.52 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: the night before last I was starting the burn phase which yuo think would increase my need to eat |
| 16:46.20 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: Not an upset stomach... I have NO apetite. made a bowl of soup and I simply can't eat |
| 16:48.00 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender, so eat anyways. Your mind can override your body if you want it to |
| 16:50.19 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: I suspect my body might take violent offense at that however ;) |
| 16:50.22 | drmessano | Override your inner dialplan |
| 16:50.26 | drmessano | OMMMMMMMMMMMMMM |
| 16:50.29 | drmessano | OMMMMMMMMMMMMMM |
| 16:51.05 | jaytee | well, at least drink lots of fluids, non-alcohol based fluids. water works best |
| 16:51.17 | drmessano | OMMM MANYY NEWBIEEE HUMMMMM |
| 16:51.43 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: I'm on tea right now.... |
| 16:52.08 | jaytee | tea is good |
| 16:52.22 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: their bull is hard to swallow ;) |
| 16:53.24 | dlewis | [TK]D-Fender: i must be completely confused then... |
| 16:53.45 | dlewis | the bind port for asterisk (via sip.conf) is 5060 |
| 16:54.13 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: this isn't hte BIND PORT, its the port you are contacting at your OTHER END. This is your REGISTER statement |
| 16:54.40 | dlewis | ah, ok |
| 16:54.42 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: THEIR port, not YOUR port |
| 16:55.50 | dlewis | here it is: EXXXXX:XXXXX1@67.106.133.198:5070/8457840250 |
| 16:55.52 | zeeesh | while compling asterisk-1.4.22 on centos 5.2 getting this error at http://paste.lisp.org/display/72900. |
| 16:56.03 | dlewis | thats the register statement |
| 16:56.47 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: "sip show registry" |
| 16:59.08 | dlewis | http://www.mibbit.com/pb/wc6vcP |
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| 16:59.58 | [TK]D-Fender | dleswell at least now its trying on the proper port.... so now I don't trust your routing & firewalls, and as I pointed out your NAT settings were shot to hell as well |
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| 17:14.59 | jaytee | zeeesh, try installing libtermcap-devel, do a make clean, ./configure and then recompile |
| 17:15.18 | jaytee | zeeesh, and you might want to run yum -y update first |
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| 17:31.24 | drmessano | I wonder if I can get a Radio Shark working for MOH |
| 17:31.38 | jaytee | Radio Shark? |
| 17:31.59 | drmessano | http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/radioshark |
| 17:32.21 | drmessano | I have several of them |
| 17:33.00 | jasonwoot | do you think there are legal issues involved with streaming my XMradio to MOH? |
| 17:33.16 | drmessano | Not if you pay for XM for "Broadcast use" |
| 17:33.16 | jaytee | "Due to the decline in retail sales people knowledgeable in electronics, Tandy Corporation is changing it's Radio Shack slogan from "You've got questions, we've got answers!" to "Yeah, we got stuff!" |
| 17:33.48 | drmessano | XM offers service for background music, MOH, but its a different rate code |
| 17:33.59 | drmessano | Otherwise, yes, its not legal |
| 17:34.39 | jaytee | so wouldn't using a Radio Shark require a broadcast use license for MOH? |
| 17:35.01 | jasonwoot | is MOH legally any different than music in the lobby? |
| 17:35.09 | drmessano | I didnt say I was gonna use it for production use.. heh.. I just want to know if I can code it and Wiki it |
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| 17:35.28 | jaytee | ah |
| 17:35.32 | drmessano | jasonwoot: No, same licensing required.. Thats "Background music" |
| 17:36.02 | [TK]D-Fender | jasonwoot>is MOH legally any different than music in the lobby? <- W.T.F |
| 17:36.16 | [TK]D-Fender | jasonwoot: er.. |
| 17:36.19 | [TK]D-Fender | nvm |
| 17:36.30 | [TK]D-Fender | that is debateable... |
| 17:36.33 | drmessano | jaytee: I may be able to get away with NPR, however |
| 17:36.46 | drmessano | [TK]D-Fender: Not really.. Same licensing |
| 17:36.52 | jasonwoot | hmmmm, listen to NPR, or shoot myself in the penis.... tough choice |
| 17:37.00 | jaytee | lol |
| 17:37.08 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: funny though. Receptionist in lobby has a radio on her deks. is that "broadcast" just because someone walks in? |
| 17:37.13 | jasonwoot | but hey, its Thursday, and on Thursday, what do we do? |
| 17:37.23 | jasonwoot | we read from your letters |
| 17:38.13 | drmessano | [TK]D-Fender: It would be argued and has been argued as such, even within the doors of stations I worked for. |
| 17:38.38 | tzafrir_laptop | anybody actually uses dahdi/zaptel with static device files? |
| 17:38.42 | drmessano | [TK]D-Fender: Receptionists radio was loud enough for others to hear, therefore is legally broadcasting background music to visitors |
| 17:39.08 | dlewis | [TK]D-Fender: trying to figure out where the issue lies... |
| 17:39.12 | dlewis | http://www.mibbit.com/pb/WXic6F |
| 17:39.15 | dlewis | that's my sip.conf |
| 17:39.19 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: I might argue a tiny bit different if some extra special amps, etc were involved, but its fades towards which when its a boring clock-radio |
| 17:39.21 | dlewis | I turned off the firewall |
| 17:39.24 | dlewis | still get the same issue |
| 17:39.31 | [TK]D-Fender | s/which/white/ |
| 17:39.59 | dlewis | sip_nat.conf: http://www.mibbit.com/pb/soH06P |
| 17:40.20 | joat | drmessano: actually the visitors were thieves, there to stealing music by eavesdropping on the receptionist or any other audio source available (why else visit a radio station?) |
| 17:40.27 | drmessano | [TK]D-Fender: Well, this was actually brought before legal counsel. If someone else can hear it, and it's a designated area for work or for visitors, its "broadcasting".. |
| 17:40.35 | joat | s/stealing/steal/ |
| 17:40.58 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: Do I see SIP debug in there? do I see firewall dumps? do I trust your router setup? |
| 17:41.02 | drmessano | lol |
| 17:41.18 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: I know I don't see your NAT setup in there... |
| 17:41.42 | drmessano | Technically the loud ass radio strapped to the peg board at your mechanics place is broadcasting background music illegally if it can be heard across the entire business |
| 17:41.53 | joat | anyone who comes through the front door of the radio station should be arrested, no questions asked |
| 17:42.01 | dlewis | [TK]D-Fender: yea, the sip.conf references sip_nat.conf, which has the NAT setup |
| 17:42.07 | joat | even artists (we all know the music doesn't belong to _them_) |
| 17:42.11 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: trust = 0 |
| 17:42.17 | dlewis | [TK]D-Fender: ok |
| 17:42.21 | dlewis | [TK]D-Fender: firewall is turned off |
| 17:42.29 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: DITTO |
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| 17:47.33 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: Go get debug, go show your router configs, go show your linux firewall dump |
| 17:48.34 | dlewis | ok |
| 17:49.51 | dlewis | http://www.mibbit.com/pb/AWSgt2 |
| 17:49.53 | dlewis | firewall |
| 17:50.13 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: OMG |
| 17:50.28 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: Where are these 2 servers? |
| 17:50.49 | dlewis | the server i'm trying to reach is somewhere in newark... |
| 17:50.55 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: no, YOUR 2 |
| 17:50.56 | dlewis | my server is in New York State |
| 17:51.05 | dlewis | oh, my two servers are in NYS |
| 17:51.10 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: Where is the working one, and where is the NON working one? |
| 17:51.19 | dlewis | both on the same subnet |
| 17:51.25 | dlewis | behind the same firewall/router |
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| 17:51.42 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: You can't have * behind the same subnet work from behind NAT! |
| 17:51.50 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: The other damn box is getting the ANSWERS! |
| 17:52.00 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: Stupid port forwarding |
| 17:52.31 | jaytee | this might be an interesting question for some. On my Nortel Option11C I have a universal trunk card with several ports configured as RAN routes and a MOH route. The MOH source is a digital tape device from Interalia. Is it possible to configure an FXO port to act as a route to play MOH from the device? |
| 17:52.53 | dlewis | [TK]D-Fender: it might be an issue with the actual asterisk install on the box that doesn't work. |
| 17:53.03 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: And why it isn't working |
| 17:53.05 | dlewis | because the box that does is on the same subnet... |
| 17:53.18 | dlewis | i'm trying to figure it out |
| 17:53.33 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: You are not listening.... only 1 box behind that NAT is going to get the INCOMING packets |
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| 17:55.00 | dlewis | right |
| 17:55.11 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: FUBAR'd |
| 17:55.20 | dlewis | so, to fix this, I shut off one box and then use the other.. |
| 17:55.26 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: What you want will not work like that |
| 17:55.37 | dlewis | ok |
| 17:56.18 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: Next time describe the entire setup so it doesn't become a collosal waste of time |
| 17:58.37 | drmessano | <joat> anyone who comes through the front door of the radio station should be arrested, no questions asked <-- and shot |
| 17:59.36 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: http://tinyurl.com/42vfps |
| 17:59.48 | drmessano | LOL yep |
| 17:59.59 | jaytee | hehehe |
| 18:00.15 | drmessano | Working in Radio is like a hobby gone wrong |
| 18:00.29 | drmessano | No doubt about it |
| 18:03.04 | drmessano | Did I die? |
| 18:03.27 | jaytee | I'd really love to reuse this Interalia device with Asterisk. it has an 8ohm/1watt output and a 600ohm "nominal" output. currently the 8ohm output connects to my Nortel system. the music output has a sampling rate of 8khz 4bits/sample. |
| 18:03.56 | drmessano | FXO with an isolation transformer |
| 18:04.04 | drmessano | Actually |
| 18:04.06 | drmessano | Two things |
| 18:04.26 | drmessano | You need an isolation transformer and some way to make it go offhook |
| 18:04.29 | jaytee | 600 to 600 iso xformer |
| 18:04.33 | drmessano | Yeah |
| 18:04.47 | drmessano | Actually an FXS would be somewhat better |
| 18:04.47 | madsara | Hey, can someone point me to an example config allowing outbound calls to be dumped into a MeetMe conference? |
| 18:05.27 | drmessano | Easy autoanswer circuit |
| 18:05.34 | [TK]D-Fender | mdasDescribe the process in full |
| 18:05.50 | drmessano | 600 ohm <> 600ohm isolation Xformer, and a 70v DIAC |
| 18:05.51 | [TK]D-Fender | madsara: Describe the process in full |
| 18:05.59 | drmessano | Which are about 2 bucks or so |
| 18:06.24 | drmessano | DIAC basically closed a circuit when the specified voltage is reached |
| 18:06.52 | drmessano | So the 90V ringing voltage across the DIAC closes the circuit, answers the FXS port, passes audio |
| 18:06.58 | madsara | [TK]D-Fender: K, something like this: An extension is dialed via cronjob at 12:00, which calls person A and person B, when each person answers they're automatically dumped into a Meetme conference. |
| 18:07.48 | madsara | Should be fairly basick |
| 18:07.48 | [TK]D-Fender | madsara: Try again, and get specific, starting with what this 12:00 dial is coming from |
| 18:08.29 | jaytee | that gets the audio to the port but then I've got to have Asterisk use it as a MOH source. I know how to setup different file sources and I've played with streaming audio but to use an FXS port as a MOH source within the dialplan has me stumped at the moment. |
| 18:09.44 | madsara | I can handle the 12:00 dial via a bash script that integrates w/ the asterisk console.... I just need an example dialplan that will allow 1 extension to be dialed, which thus places an outbound SIP call to a number, which when answered sends that caller into a meetme conference. |
| 18:10.07 | [TK]D-Fender | madsara: I'm seeing 2 people talking in this picture... why MEETME? |
| 18:10.32 | [TK]D-Fender | madsara: You're reinventing the wheel.. CLI / AMI Originate or Call-files <- |
| 18:10.49 | madsara | Yeah, I looked at call files... I'll look some more. |
| 18:11.12 | madsara | I assume you mean the callfiles example stuff included. |
| 18:11.52 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: reduce to line-level and take it in your sound card and set up a stream server and have * use that stream with any of the apps that can connect to it |
| 18:13.02 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender, wouldn't I just be able to use the 600ohm output into the line-in for that? |
| 18:13.20 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: Don't ask me about the electrical part of that :) |
| 18:13.30 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: drmessano I'm sure would know the proper rates, etc |
| 18:13.50 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: Or probably where to look... |
| 18:14.15 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: this would let you use it across multiple servers even |
| 18:14.46 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender, which would be awesome and I'd like to avoid using an FXS or FXO for this. |
| 18:16.06 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: yup. For the FXO I suppose you could use a local soft-phone that is bridged with it then pipe the audio out into the line-in and do the same... but FUGLY |
| 18:16.23 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: And requires you to keep those channels alive. |
| 18:17.19 | jaytee | yeah, and I'd rather just setup a source in musiconhold.conf instead of having some fugly channel source I have to keep open. |
| 18:18.10 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: Think about server restarts, etc |
| 18:18.14 | [TK]D-Fender | *shudder* |
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| 19:36.34 | ZenBSDi | Anyone know how I can force a disconnect after 5 minutes with a dialplan? |
| 19:39.13 | jaytee | ZenBSDi, exten="xxxx",1,Set(TIMEOUT(absolute)=3000) |
| 19:39.23 | ZenBSDi | thanks! |
| 19:39.45 | jaytee | yw |
| 19:40.16 | jaytee | ZenBSDi, the "xxxx" is where your extension number or pattern match should go |
| 19:41.05 | ZenBSDi | exten => s,1,Set(TIMEOUT(absolute)=3000) |
| 19:41.07 | ZenBSDi | got it |
| 19:41.45 | ZenBSDi | it's not in seconds huh :p |
| 19:41.51 | ZenBSDi | gonna test it.. brb |
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| 19:47.34 | jaytee | ZenBSDi, you should probably add exten => T,1,Hangup() and make the first priority an Answer() with the Set(TIMEOUT(absolute)=3000) the very next priority for the called extension. |
| 19:47.51 | jaytee | bbiab |
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| 19:56.27 | ZenBSDi | Jaytee, I'm setting up a party line .. haha |
| 19:57.00 | ZenBSDi | got 2000 minutes incoming for free.. I just setup some way to watch that and shut off once it reaches that 1999th minute |
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| 20:14.08 | drmessano | A party line with 2000 minutes? |
| 20:17.30 | jaytee | drmessano, would I be able to take the 600ohm output from my Interalia and use it on a line-in jack? I'd probably need something to do impedance matching between the two? |
| 20:20.26 | drmessano | Line-In is going to be high impedence |
| 20:20.29 | drmessano | So yes |
| 20:20.53 | drmessano | You will be matching anywhere from 15k-50k ohms depending on sound card |
| 20:25.47 | mchou | drmessano: have you ever used the motorola router/ATA (VT-2442)? |
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| 20:26.36 | drmessano | I heard they were a waste of time |
| 20:27.10 | mchou | drmessano: ok, good enough for me. Someone offered me one for $15 |
| 20:27.46 | mchou | drmessano: dont want to spend too much time on it if it's not going to be useful |
| 20:28.20 | drmessano | Its not.. Its horribly difficult to configure |
| 20:28.30 | ZenBSDi | drmessano, I know.. 2000 minutes ain't alot |
| 20:28.35 | drmessano | Using spoofed XML files to configure even after unlocking |
| 20:29.02 | drmessano | ALA Feeding a cable modem a bogus TFTP config sort of "unreasonable" |
| 20:29.13 | mchou | drmessano: yeah. apparently no "phone config" page available either |
| 20:29.18 | drmessano | Correct |
| 20:31.45 | mchou | drmessano: are there any ATAs you'd recommend besides PAP2? |
| 20:33.12 | mchou | drmessano: I mean as far as ATAs go, is PAP2 the yardstick? |
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| 20:35.10 | drmessano | Im not aware of any ATAs that are considered better.. Linksys, Grandstream, Cisco are the obvious choices.. We can rule the last two out due to crap/cost. Beyond that you've got the Linksys PAP2T, the SPA-2102 and SPA-3102 in current production. The 2102/3102 are routers as well as being ATAs. The 2102 I believe is considered somewhat better as far as an ATA goes, but I think the difference |
| 20:35.18 | ZenBSDi | Anyone in the 954 area code wanna help me test this thing? |
| 20:35.28 | drmessano | is not enough to justify the extra router bits unless needed |
| 20:35.44 | mchou | drmessano: ok. thanks |
| 20:35.53 | drmessano | and the 3102, of course, is 1 FXS/ 1 FXO which makes it a loss if you need two FXSs |
| 20:36.09 | mchou | drmessano: yeah |
| 20:36.10 | drmessano | At the expense of gaining the FXO which is really the desired option on that model |
| 20:36.12 | drmessano | So yeah |
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| 20:37.10 | goatmilk | file: boo |
| 20:37.31 | hi365_m | is still trying to figure out how to prevent the body of the email from being sent as a fax when using faxmail (hylafax) |
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| 20:39.11 | Jabess | [ZenBSDi] you use freebsd? |
| 20:39.32 | ZenBSDi | I used to .. Now I'm a slack/ubuntu guy :p |
| 20:39.55 | ZenBSDi | I was a big user till all the delays in 5.0 killed my patience |
| 20:40.04 | Jabess | [ZenBSDi] but, you had installed asterisk on Freebsd system? |
| 20:40.20 | ZenBSDi | Nope.. only Linux. Soz |
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| 20:45.38 | ZenBSDi | Jabess, you having problems getting it to work on FreeBSD? |
| 20:45.47 | Jabess | yep |
| 20:47.21 | Jabess | when I install the asterisk on freebsd, have noise the audio |
| 20:50.27 | ZenBSDi | What are you using? softphone? which one? |
| 20:51.18 | Jabess | softphone |
| 20:51.29 | ZenBSDi | Are you using echo cancellation in the softphone? |
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| 20:51.53 | Jabess | I guest |
| 20:52.01 | Jabess | let me see |
| 20:52.01 | ZenBSDi | disable that |
| 20:54.49 | Jabess | I having problem now.. look log |
| 20:54.49 | Jabess | [Jan 1 16:56:47] WARNING[4917]: chan_oss.c:493 setformat: Unable to re-open DSP device /dev/dsp: No such file or directory |
| 20:56.18 | ZenBSDi | sounds like you have softphone/client issues not asterisk |
| 20:57.02 | ZenBSDi | I was testing zoiper against my ast box too and had sound problems.. disabled the echo cancellation in zoiper and it was fixed. |
| 20:57.28 | ZenBSDi | run zttest and see what it says for your accuracy |
| 20:57.39 | Jabess | let me see/ |
| 20:58.06 | Jabess | zttest in console of freebsd? |
| 20:58.10 | Jabess | or CLI? |
| 20:58.17 | ZenBSDi | yep.. cli of bsd |
| 20:58.40 | Jabess | not CLI of Asterisk right? |
| 20:58.49 | Jabess | say me, command not found in Freebsd |
| 20:59.07 | ZenBSDi | did you install libzaptel? |
| 20:59.22 | Jabess | nop |
| 20:59.43 | Jabess | Is mandatory? |
| 20:59.44 | ZenBSDi | well, it's not important unless you're running trunks anyway.. |
| 20:59.52 | Jabess | rigth |
| 21:00.04 | ZenBSDi | Are you using a SIP/IAX peer? |
| 21:00.09 | ZenBSDi | got a did yet? |
| 21:00.15 | Jabess | SIP |
| 21:00.39 | Jabess | I use X-phone |
| 21:01.16 | ZenBSDi | xfoneusa? |
| 21:01.56 | ZenBSDi | What are you using Asterisk for? whats your goal? |
| 21:02.33 | Jabess | my goal is for use with a DID --> Asterisk --> Gateway -- Line PSTN |
| 21:02.48 | Jabess | via SIP |
| 21:03.02 | Jabess | wich is more better to use? IAX or SIP? |
| 21:03.49 | ZenBSDi | neither is better.. they're both good. I just use IAX since I'm behind a nasty firewall and IAX is nat friendly. |
| 21:03.58 | ZenBSDi | ok. |
| 21:04.58 | Jabess | about NAT/Firewall is much better IAX? |
| 21:05.20 | Jabess | well, I will use the gateway behind a NAT |
| 21:05.22 | [TK]D-Fender | Jabess: What do you use? |
| 21:05.58 | Jabess | Right now, with a SoftPhone, is directly to the Asterisk, without NAT |
| 21:06.00 | ZenBSDi | well, yer having problems with /dev/dsp which is the sound card. google for how to restart the sound service in freebsd and then try again |
| 21:06.21 | [TK]D-Fender | Jabess: Asterisk has a public IP? |
| 21:06.22 | ZenBSDi | TK .. Sup |
| 21:06.31 | Jabess | I have |
| 21:06.32 | [TK]D-Fender | ZenBSDi: Surviving.... kinda... ish |
| 21:06.55 | ZenBSDi | With all yer mad Ast skills? how come you aint a millionaire by now? |
| 21:07.18 | [TK]D-Fender | ZenBSDi: Heath <- |
| 21:07.20 | Jabess | [ZenBSDi] but, you think that the problem is with the fisic sound card? And that's why have noise? |
| 21:07.27 | [TK]D-Fender | Health |
| 21:09.07 | ZenBSDi | Jabess, Like I said earlier.. I had sound problems too. But it was the echo cancellation in Zoiper. turned it off and now I got great quality. I just need to stress test my party line and see how many people I can have with only 512k up .. heh |
| 21:10.46 | Jabess | well, no is problem with the echo cancellation/noise reduction, I already try that |
| 21:11.39 | ZenBSDi | TK, check out these accuracy numbers.. keep in mind.. this is a virtual machine with ztdummy for iax trunking. |
| 21:11.43 | ZenBSDi | --- Results after 10 passes --- |
| 21:11.43 | ZenBSDi | Best: 99.987793 -- Worst: 99.963379 -- Average: 99.982910 |
| 21:13.34 | [TK]D-Fender | ZenBSDi: awesome |
| 21:14.11 | ZenBSDi | yeah right.. everytime I read about ztdummy/iax trunk numbers it's more like 96/97 percent.. but I'm getting 99.9! |
| 21:14.26 | ZenBSDi | god bless AMD's opterons :D |
| 21:14.59 | ZenBSDi | 954 369 1390 - Broward county partyline! |
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| 21:18.44 | ZenBSDi | TK, you setup Vicidial yet? |
| 21:19.02 | [TK]D-Fender | ZenBSDi: Nope. Telemarketing = evil |
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| 21:19.14 | ZenBSDi | telemarketing = pay dude |
| 21:19.27 | piper69 | Happy new year to all |
| 21:19.34 | hi365_m | any way to tell from the dial plan of the dahdi channel is pots or a pri? |
| 21:19.36 | ZenBSDi | HNY piper69 |
| 21:20.23 | [TK]D-Fender | hi365Yes, set a bunch of global variable to what each is and GotoIf |
| 21:20.49 | hi365_m | i meant dynamicly... oh well |
| 21:21.52 | Jabess | If I have allowed 3 type of codecs, wich one of 3 codecs the asterisk will use? |
| 21:21.52 | hi365_m | totaly off topic, but im looking for a simle way to modify a mime email. anyone have any ideas? |
| 21:21.52 | [TK]D-Fender | hi365_m: grep, sed |
| 21:22.45 | hi365_m | is there no command line too that can spit it out ur way? (like -h for the headers -ha for headers and attachments) |
| 21:28.15 | eppigy | Jabess: it will use the first one you have enabled in the list that the client supports |
| 21:29.18 | Jabess | if the client have a list of 3 codec, the first codec will be selected? |
| 21:29.29 | eppigy | the firsty one in your list |
| 21:29.41 | eppigy | disalow all |
| 21:29.43 | eppigy | allow ilbc |
| 21:29.50 | eppigy | allow g729 |
| 21:29.55 | eppigy | ilbc will be used first |
| 21:30.01 | eppigy | it is very logical |
| 21:30.08 | eppigy | a simple test would show you the behavior |
| 21:30.34 | jaytee | well put, "dave" |
| 21:30.39 | eppigy | thank you |
| 21:32.06 | ZenBSDi | I'm using GSM :p |
| 21:32.12 | eppigy | you will die alone |
| 21:33.55 | Jabess | If i want to use /dev/pcm0 instead /dev/dsp ?? |
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| 21:34.03 | Jabess | I can configure it? |
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| 21:34.45 | ZenBSDi | I should try g729 huh |
| 21:35.27 | eppigy | you should do what makes you happy |
| 21:35.33 | eppigy | what is happeniness to you? |
| 21:35.39 | eppigy | *happiness |
| 21:36.00 | ZenBSDi | happiness to me is great voice quality with very little bandwidth used |
| 21:36.12 | ZenBSDi | so smaller packets = happiness ;p |
| 21:36.40 | eppigy | I see |
| 21:36.52 | eppigy | well supposedly iLBC degrades more gracefully |
| 21:36.54 | eppigy | with latency |
| 21:37.06 | eppigy | it is slightly more cpu intessive though |
| 21:37.12 | eppigy | allegedly |
| 21:37.23 | eppigy | plus g729 is not free |
| 21:37.57 | ZenBSDi | damn |
| 21:40.55 | ZenBSDi | I'll stick with GSM .. it's only eating 5 more kb :p |
| 21:41.41 | eppigy | you gotta do you dog |
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| 21:43.49 | drmessano | ilbc rox |
| 21:44.02 | ZenBSDi | yo dog, I heard you like to yo yo dog, so we put your dog in yo yo yo so you can yo yo yo dog. |
| 21:44.47 | eppigy | wow bro |
| 21:45.10 | eppigy | you have truly revealed yourself |
| 21:45.36 | drmessano | GSM is a horrid codec, IMO |
| 21:47.05 | eppigy | agreed |
| 21:47.11 | eppigy | i mean lets be honest here |
| 21:47.46 | drmessano | "I want to use the smallest packets possible" is the wrong way to go about this |
| 21:48.05 | drmessano | Use whats efficient, but lets not be stupid about packet sizes and compromises |
| 21:48.14 | eppigy | i want the sexiest packets |
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| 21:48.45 | Aces1up | anyone know where i can buy DId's for less that .50 cents? |
| 21:48.57 | drmessano | If switching from GSM to something "a little bigger" is going to break your bandwidth, you got problems |
| 21:52.34 | mchou | Aces1up: lol. If you find something like that let me know too |
| 21:52.48 | eppigy | ZenBSDi: where is your mockery now you smug bastard? |
| 21:53.20 | mchou | Aces1up: heck, if you find DID for less than $1.00/mo let me know :) |
| 21:54.00 | Aces1up | mchou they have a deal on DIDX |
| 21:54.02 | ZenBSDi | All my did's cost 3,4,5 dollars :p |
| 21:54.08 | Aces1up | but i'm not sure about didx |
| 21:54.16 | Aces1up | get 50 DID's for 25.00 |
| 21:54.26 | mchou | Aces1up: ok, in bulk |
| 21:54.41 | Aces1up | yeh, in bulk where is a good place to buy? |
| 21:54.49 | drmessano | So you found a deal somewhere |
| 21:54.51 | mchou | Aces1up: some of us are stuck with "retail" :( |
| 21:54.57 | drmessano | But youre being picky |
| 21:55.04 | drmessano | So now you expect someone else to have that deal |
| 21:55.10 | Aces1up | i guess.. |
| 21:55.15 | Aces1up | didn't know that was wholesale price.. |
| 21:55.19 | Aces1up | shrugs. |
| 21:55.22 | drmessano | People like you should be shot |
| 21:55.24 | drmessano | and hung |
| 21:55.28 | Aces1up | never priced em before. |
| 21:55.32 | drmessano | and then run over with a wheelbarrow |
| 21:55.58 | eppigy | hamas is legalizing crucifixion |
| 21:55.59 | drmessano | Full of overpriced sod |
| 21:56.11 | drmessano | and maybe some.. GARDENIAS |
| 21:56.19 | eppigy | lets not rule that out |
| 21:56.27 | drmessano | Indeed |
| 21:56.40 | drmessano | Maybe they can be bought in BULK |
| 21:57.27 | eppigy | where can i get tulip bulbs less than .50 cents? |
| 21:57.57 | mchou | eppigy: havent priced those things lately |
| 21:58.00 | drmessano | DIDX apparently |
| 21:58.08 | drmessano | But I dont trust DIDX |
| 21:58.14 | mchou | eppigy: what's the going market rate? |
| 21:58.15 | drmessano | Got some LIGHT bulbs last time |
| 21:58.40 | mchou | drmessano: I got 4 CFLs for $0.25 |
| 21:59.07 | mchou | drmessano: that was subsidized by the local utility though :) |
| 21:59.34 | mchou | I bought then by the case :) |
| 21:59.38 | mchou | them* |
| 22:00.01 | mchou | maybe I'll die of mercury poisoning |
| 22:00.25 | drmessano | I had something MUCH better planned for you |
| 22:00.40 | mchou | drmessano: what's that? |
| 22:00.41 | drmessano | But apparently it's illegal to import echidnas right now |
| 22:01.57 | drmessano | So youre safe |
| 22:02.13 | mchou | I dont get it |
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| 22:02.20 | mchou | they only eat ants |
| 22:03.17 | drmessano | <mchou> they only eat ants <-- only makes my plans much more devious |
| 22:09.49 | drmessano | mchou: http://www.phone2net.com/services/ <-- was this the cheesy green one you showed me? |
| 22:10.56 | drmessano | Nevermind |
| 22:10.57 | drmessano | It wasnt |
| 22:10.59 | drmessano | Too expensive |
| 22:11.35 | drmessano | I noticed flowroute finally got some east coast DIDs |
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| 22:28.35 | timholum | hello, my server recently crashed, when i reloaded it i installed asterisk on but my zaptel does not pick up or dial out any more? |
| 22:28.51 | timholum | any ideas? oh i am running ubuntu 8.10 |
| 22:33.38 | tzafrir_laptop | timholum, what do you see in: cat /proc/zaptel/* #? |
| 22:33.47 | tzafrir_laptop | also: what versions of asterisk and zaptel? |
| 22:33.48 | timholum | I had a backup of /etc/asterisk and /etc/zaptel.conf, and i installed the zaptel driver and asterisk on my system, and when i do a zap show status i get, Wildcard TDM400P REV I Board 1 UNCONFIGUR 0 0 0 |
| 22:33.53 | tzafrir_laptop | What device? |
| 22:33.54 | timholum | one sec |
| 22:35.06 | timholum | http://pastebin.com/m722494a4 |
| 22:35.17 | timholum | is /proc/zaptel/* |
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| 22:35.42 | timholum | and i have a tdm400 with one a red module in slot 4 |
| 22:37.22 | timholum | http://pastebin.com/m69bf2c97 is the output from cat /etc/zaptel.conf|grep -v ";" |
| 22:38.24 | timholum | one second I might have found my problem |
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| 22:42.40 | ZenBSDi | alright ya'll.. I've soaked up as much Asterisk knowledge as I can for the day. Got my predictive dialer working and got my party line going. Thanks again room. Peace |
| 22:43.55 | timholum | tzafrir_laptop: I figured it out, :) I copyed the /etc/asterisk and /etc/zaptel.conf over before i installed it and the installer overwrote my files :) |
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