| 00:02.27 | C4colo | what would cause hints not to work for outbound calls? |
| 00:03.08 | C4colo | no notification is sent for the outbound calling user, and core show hints shows the extension as "idle" when it is indeed inuse |
| 00:10.13 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: pastebin is your friend |
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| 00:38.02 | C4colo | it was a problem with limitonpeers=yes |
| 00:39.38 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Let me guess... left it as "friend" didn't you? |
| 00:45.33 | sosoriri | [TK]D-Fender: i see http://www.wookieboo.halokwadrat.pl/lang-en/component/content/article/17-ss7boxsmg/29-ss7-smg-performance yesterday. i will try it. thank u yesterday. |
| 00:47.16 | [TK]D-Fender | sosoriri: you still miss the point. Every friggen time. |
| 00:48.03 | [TK]D-Fender | sosoriri: It isn't just getting the channels to *. The RECORDING load will &^%$ING MURDER THE SERVER |
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| 00:48.37 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: Comedy gold in progress.... |
| 00:49.02 | sosoriri | [TK]D-Fender: it will process simultanous 70 calls? |
| 00:49.32 | [TK]D-Fender | sosoriri: How do you go from **16 E1** down to 70 calls? |
| 00:50.10 | C4colo | it was defined on each sip user, not globally, I had to move it globally and it started working |
| 00:50.15 | sosoriri | now our 4 servers process max 70 calls. |
| 00:50.22 | C4colo | trying to help someone work out a few bugs on their system |
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| 00:51.15 | [TK]D-Fender | sosoriri: A single SUN x2100, 3GHz Dual Core is ideal for up to 16E1 with centralized setup when performing trivial tasks like IVRs with low call setup ratio and no transcoding nor SIP termination as there will not be enough CPU (<40%) left for sending the full traffic out of Asterisk. |
| 00:51.24 | [TK]D-Fender | sosoriri: What you want is not trivial. |
| 00:53.31 | sosoriri | [TK]D-Fender: yes, i need only recording. no IVRs, no SIP/IAX terminals. |
| 00:53.44 | [TK]D-Fender | sosoriri: And that will kill your server |
| 00:53.48 | sosoriri | i will think about it. |
| 00:54.10 | [TK]D-Fender | sosoriri: Think? Pardon? You don't seem to be doing a very good job of it. You should outsource. |
| 00:55.44 | Corydon76-dig | ouch |
| 00:56.08 | [TK]D-Fender | Corydon76-dig: Sorry, you have no idea the mess this was yesterday with everyone trying to get the point across |
| 00:56.40 | [TK]D-Fender | Corydon76-dig: And I am more than a little edgy today and this is 24 hours later and the same ole BS |
| 00:57.11 | [TK]D-Fender | Corydon76-dig: As Jon Stewart would say "It was a Cluster%$#@" |
| 00:57.30 | Corydon76-dig | Yeah, but it's not in your data center... ;-) |
| 00:58.09 | [TK]D-Fender | Corydon76-dig: Yeah, thats the curse of caring enough to try to warn people they are trying really hard to get F-ed in the ass... |
| 00:58.43 | Corydon76-dig | My boyfriend was trying really hard this morning, and he succeeded... ;-) |
| 00:58.52 | [TK]D-Fender | Corydon76-dig: And even if it were... it wouldn't impact me.... he wants services delivered, he'd get them (attempting to), and if it fails... he still gets billed |
| 00:59.07 | Qwell | you...totally went there |
| 00:59.24 | [TK]D-Fender | wonders how long the memories will last |
| 00:59.26 | [TK]D-Fender | cries |
| 00:59.31 | Corydon76-dig | Qwell: he's got a purty mouth |
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| 01:00.34 | Corydon76-dig | Whatch'all doin' for New Year's Eve? |
| 01:00.34 | [TK]D-Fender | Corydon76-dig: Just a status update, you are a relatively independant contributor who is occasionally contracted by Digium, correct |
| 01:00.44 | [TK]D-Fender | ? |
| 01:00.55 | Corydon76-dig | [TK]D-Fender: I'm a Digium employee |
| 01:01.00 | [TK]D-Fender | Corydon76-dig: Full-time? |
| 01:01.14 | Corydon76-dig | Yep |
| 01:01.31 | [TK]D-Fender | Corydon76-dig: What are your primary roles? |
| 01:01.54 | Corydon76-dig | In the bedroom, I'm a top |
| 01:02.00 | Corydon76-dig | In the kitchen, I'm a chef. |
| 01:02.22 | Corydon76-dig | At Digium, I'm one of the Senior Software Developers |
| 01:02.43 | [TK]D-Fender | Corydon76-dig: Power top, or swith? ;) |
| 01:02.46 | [TK]D-Fender | switch* |
| 01:02.49 | Corydon76-dig | Power top |
| 01:02.55 | [TK]D-Fender | Corydon76-dig: What specific aspects of * dev? |
| 01:03.28 | Corydon76-dig | Anything that needs to be done and for which nobody else feels like tackling |
| 01:03.43 | [TK]D-Fender | Corydon76-dig: Ahh... "leftovers"... cook strikes again! |
| 01:04.09 | Corydon76-dig | although I tend to specialize in database access, dialplan unity, and various other dialplan applications |
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| 01:05.20 | Corydon76-dig | Hence, the never ending compendium of ODBC-related modules |
| 01:06.32 | Corydon76-dig | i.e. func_odbc, cdr_adaptive_odbc, adaptive realtime, and odbc_tx_support |
| 01:07.14 | Corydon76-dig | Oh, and realtime failover |
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| 01:16.23 | sosoriri | Corydon76-dig: how do u think about what happend if 16E1(4 cards) installs on one box? |
| 01:17.36 | jaytee | anyone know of a motherboard manufacturer that makes motherboards that have 8 PCI slots? I need to setup an Asterisk server with 8 TE407P cards and record all the calls for up to 700 concurrent calls. |
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| 01:21.32 | DrkShadow | hey, sip isn't loading (doesn't show when I type "help"), and when I do "module load chan_sip" I get the error: "reload_config: Unable to load config sip.conf" ... anyone know what's up? sip.conf is at /etc/asterisk/sip.conf and is world-readable. I don't know where else it would look for it. |
| 01:23.00 | jaytee | DrkShadow, perhaps the file has become corrupted. Do you have a backup of it? have you edited it recently? |
| 01:23.31 | DrkShadow | haven't edited it, but I tried to upgrade Asterisk from .18 to .22. i'm guessing something was messed up in that, so recompiling from scratch.. |
| 01:23.52 | jaytee | what distro? |
| 01:23.56 | DrkShadow | centos |
| 01:24.06 | jaytee | are you using the guide from the wiki? |
| 01:24.14 | DrkShadow | I'm using the README file. |
| 01:24.31 | DrkShadow | it's nothing abnormal for me -- I've done it plenty of times in the past, including upgrades.. |
| 01:25.56 | jaytee | I was editing my extensions.conf file earlier and went to do a dialplan reload which failed because I'd accidentally hit the / key when the cursor was to the left of [general] and didn't notice it when I saved. |
| 01:26.49 | DrkShadow | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:27.20 | jaytee | running as root? |
| 01:27.23 | DrkShadow | yep. |
| 01:27.46 | jaytee | and you can open the file in an editor and everything looks ok? |
| 01:28.05 | DrkShadow | yep. |
| 01:28.17 | jaytee | did you do a make clean before you recompiled? |
| 01:28.23 | DrkShadow | yep. |
| 01:28.42 | DrkShadow | wtf... |
| 01:29.08 | jaytee | wtf? |
| 01:30.11 | DrkShadow | ... wtf... |
| 01:30.29 | DrkShadow | it's not overwriting files.. |
| 01:30.30 | jaytee | and the tension and mystery just keeps increasing |
| 01:31.38 | DrkShadow | but it did when I manually deleted everything related. |
| 01:32.57 | DrkShadow | and it's all up. |
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| 01:36.13 | sosoriri | [TK]D-Fender: thank u anyway. |
| 01:39.19 | [TK]D-Fender | sosoriri: Don't worry I expect to see you back here in 24hr and starting up this whole mess AGAIN. |
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| 01:39.37 | *** mode/#asterisk [+o russellb] by ChanServ |
| 01:39.51 | jaytee | hi russellb |
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| 01:41.40 | Corydon76-dig | [TK]D-Fender: any other questions? |
| 01:42.20 | [TK]D-Fender | Corydon76-dig: Nope, just seeing hows in the fold and in what capacity... more questions will come as I find some cracks you might consider filling (no, not THAT kind!) |
| 01:42.50 | [TK]D-Fender | gets a fanny-pack hanging sign reading "Exit Only" |
| 01:43.03 | dlewis | [TK]D-Fender: what's your opinion on using the MJ with asterisk? |
| 01:43.13 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: Huh? |
| 01:43.19 | sosoriri | Corydon76-dig: don't press him, he is a good man |
| 01:43.20 | Corydon76-dig | [TK]D-Fender: Don't knock it till you've tried it |
| 01:43.37 | dlewis | MJ = magic jack |
| 01:43.57 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: Yes, be like every other cheapskate loser out there trying to ripoff crap services... |
| 01:43.59 | Corydon76-dig | dlewis: I wasn't aware that was possible |
| 01:44.00 | dlewis | Corydon76-dig: you using it? |
| 01:44.31 | dlewis | [TK]D-Fender: lol... you're a funny guy... most of us are doing it because it's cool to and not because we're cheap |
| 01:44.42 | dlewis | just like most people that try to use things beyond there purpose |
| 01:44.48 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: Thing is, it isn't "cool". |
| 01:44.55 | dlewis | remember? that's how most modern technologies were created. |
| 01:45.01 | Corydon76-dig | Odd, I used the cheap DECT phone because it was cheap |
| 01:45.14 | dlewis | [TK]D-Fender: actually, to use something beyond what it's purpose is, to me at least, is interesting and fun |
| 01:45.22 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: There is a difference between "beyond their purpose" and "Violations of DMCA / terms of use" |
| 01:45.55 | dlewis | [TK]D-Fender: of course there is... most of the time when people use things beyound their purpose it violates ToS... |
| 01:46.06 | dlewis | so, to make a statement like that is retarded... |
| 01:46.10 | Corydon76-dig | dlewis: You must be a student |
| 01:46.19 | dlewis | Corydon76-dig: how so...? |
| 01:46.30 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: No, because there is a difference between a LOOPHOLE and an INFRACTION. |
| 01:46.37 | jaytee | just because Cap'n Crunch figured out how to get free phone service didn't make it legal |
| 01:46.47 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: And semantics can come back to bite you in the ass. |
| 01:46.47 | dlewis | lol |
| 01:46.51 | dlewis | jaytee: of course... |
| 01:46.59 | Corydon76-dig | dlewis: because you're trying to do something because it's perceived to be cool, and you aren't tracking the time it takes for you to accomplish the hack |
| 01:47.50 | Corydon76-dig | Therefore, it's likely your time isn't better spent making salary; therefore, you're probably a student |
| 01:48.17 | jaytee | and whenever I see that MagicJack commercial I hear the voice of my very wise old teacher of economics saying, "If someone offers you a deal that sounds too good to be true, it's probably a scam" |
| 01:48.18 | dlewis | Corydon76-dig: actually, I'm not doing it because it's "perceived" to be cool... It's interesting to do it... and the correlation to your statement and being a student, isn't much of a correlation at all... |
| 01:48.48 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: But he'll scam them first! That'll show them! |
| 01:49.06 | Corydon76-dig | dlewis: http://asterisk.drunkcoder.com/hacks/ats-config/ |
| 01:49.47 | Corydon76-dig | dlewis: I'm speaking from having accomplished the same thing in the past, so please understand, I'm not deriding the effort |
| 01:50.23 | Corydon76-dig | I'm just suggesting that you're doing it for non-commercial purposes |
| 01:50.25 | dlewis | Corydon76-dig: i'm not saying you are... I was just pointing out that people do these things regardless if they're a student or not... |
| 01:50.29 | dlewis | it's called a hobby. |
| 01:50.34 | dlewis | ? |
| 01:50.36 | dlewis | ok... |
| 01:51.01 | dlewis | most hobby's aren't for commercial purposes, but I guess I understand where you're coming from... |
| 01:51.03 | dlewis | (sort of) |
| 01:51.27 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: So if I commit a crime because its my "hobby", thats ok, right? |
| 01:51.38 | Corydon76-dig | [TK]D-Fender: It's technically not a crime |
| 01:51.45 | [TK]D-Fender | goes to sharpen Mr. Pointy. |
| 01:51.47 | dlewis | [TK]D-Fender: i never said that... |
| 01:51.50 | dlewis | lol... |
| 01:51.55 | [TK]D-Fender | Corydon76-dig: Contract violation. |
| 01:52.09 | Corydon76-dig | [TK]D-Fender: there's no contract |
| 01:52.11 | dlewis | [TK]D-Fender: I haven't read the complete TOS, but I haven't read explicitly where it states that doing this would be a contract violation. |
| 01:52.26 | dlewis | [TK]D-Fender: if you can point me to the language, then I'll agree. |
| 01:52.37 | [TK]D-Fender | kind of thing that leads to lawsuits, and in cases, incarceration. Just want to be absolutely clear on this. |
| 01:52.41 | jaytee | most people never read the Windows EULA |
| 01:52.42 | Corydon76-dig | If all he does is to buy the device in question, there is no contract, express or implied |
| 01:52.52 | dlewis | jaytee: completely different... |
| 01:53.11 | dlewis | you're talking about a completely different issue |
| 01:53.14 | dlewis | ... |
| 01:53.18 | Corydon76-dig | [TK]D-Fender: nobody is incarcerated anymore for civil litigation |
| 01:53.41 | eppigy | hello |
| 01:53.41 | [TK]D-Fender | Corydon76-dig: well hefty fine it is... |
| 01:53.43 | eppigy | i am dave |
| 01:53.46 | dlewis | Corydon76-dig: having been a law student, you're correct. |
| 01:54.04 | Corydon76-dig | [TK]D-Fender: it's technically not a fine, either |
| 01:54.48 | dlewis | in this case, it would lead to service termination (and not a fine)... that's if we can find the explicit (unambiguous) language in the ToS... |
| 01:54.51 | dlewis | and trust me |
| 01:55.06 | dlewis | it might or might not |
| 01:55.13 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: WOW |
| 01:55.14 | dlewis | like I said, I haven't explicitly read it... |
| 01:55.29 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: flying blind chap... |
| 01:55.59 | dlewis | [TK]D-Fender: i haven't disagreed or agreed as to whether it's illegal to it... |
| 01:56.24 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: Think you're the first in here on this rip? |
| 01:56.36 | dlewis | [TK]D-Fender: of course not... |
| 01:56.38 | [TK]D-Fender | dlewis: been quite a few |
| 01:56.47 | dlewis | [TK]D-Fender: of course... |
| 01:57.06 | dlewis | my initial question was getting ones opinion on it |
| 01:57.40 | dlewis | and the response was assuming people were being "cheapskate losers" because they were doing it |
| 01:57.47 | dlewis | and I was merely "arguing" otherwise... |
| 01:57.54 | dlewis | (which I'm sure I'm not the first to do so) |
| 01:58.29 | dlewis | most of the people I know that have done it still use other VOIP providers (paying) and also have POTS... |
| 01:58.58 | dlewis | (including myself) |
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| 02:07.15 | MrTelephone | anyone ever get a pci fatal error on sangoma a102d cards? |
| 02:14.33 | jaytee | nope, but I've gotten one on with TDM04B card on a Dell 2650 before. |
| 02:15.16 | sosoriri | [TK]D-Fender: if i try it, which kinds of server can u recommend? |
| 02:16.41 | [TK]D-Fender | sosoriri: Big, and MANY, and an AudioCodes Mediant 2000 |
| 02:16.51 | jaytee | and a Gibson! |
| 02:17.03 | [TK]D-Fender | sosoriri: And SER in front to load balance the distribution. |
| 02:17.15 | sosoriri | other servers will route calls. |
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| 02:19.30 | sosoriri | then, i think it doesn't need codec conversion. |
| 02:19.46 | [TK]D-Fender | sosoriri: who said anything about codec conversion? |
| 02:20.13 | sosoriri | AudioCodes Mediant 2000?? |
| 02:20.34 | [TK]D-Fender | sosoriri: I linked you to it YESTERDAY. Please lose the blank stares and JFGI |
| 02:21.16 | C4colo | I've been searching for a while now and I can't really find the best way to handle a Page() extension that has multiple users in it to not call itself, for example Page(SIP/123&SIP/234&SIP/456) called by 123 will ring 123, auto-answer, and everyone just hears MoH |
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| 02:21.50 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: ... |
| 02:21.50 | sosoriri | i see, AudioCodes Mediant 2000 has other meaning. |
| 02:21.52 | C4colo | ChanIsAvail() just returns one channel from a list, it doesn't clean up anything |
| 02:22.12 | C4colo | ${AVAILCHAN} returns the first channel that is available from a list of channels |
| 02:22.48 | C4colo | [TK]D-Fender: where do I put the elpisis in the dialplan? |
| 02:23.16 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: ... English please... preferrably in complete qualified question form. |
| 02:23.32 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: C4colo You already know what you should be doing... |
| 02:24.00 | C4colo | ok, I have an extension 73, it calls the Page() application with multiple extensions |
| 02:24.11 | *** part/#asterisk russellb (n=russell@asterisk/digium-open-source-team-lead/russellb) |
| 02:24.12 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: That isn't it... |
| 02:24.38 | C4colo | if an extension in the list calls 73 it rings that extension, auto-answers, and puts L1 on hold, picks up L2 which was created by the Page() application, causing everyone, including the calling party to hear MoH |
| 02:24.52 | C4colo | I need to not call the extension that called 73 |
| 02:25.18 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: WAH WAH WAH WAAAAAAAAA </lucy's_teacher> |
| 02:25.34 | C4colo | do you speak another language natively TK? |
| 02:26.09 | C4colo | or are you just in a bad mood |
| 02:26.14 | C4colo | I'd rather you just ignore me than berate me |
| 02:26.16 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: I was raiised learning english, and of course being where I am you invariabley become rather adept at french... |
| 02:26.36 | C4colo | I really don't understand what you are getting at |
| 02:26.44 | C4colo | it seems you are saying I'm not speaking english |
| 02:26.53 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: You are presenting scatter-brained little bits and I don't have any faith things process as you think they do. Where's the F-ing PASTEBIN? :p |
| 02:26.54 | C4colo | but when I reiterate more clearly you insult me |
| 02:27.22 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Your litle tidbits don't describe anything of value that one could use to hand you an answer so SHOW ME THE MONEY |
| 02:27.49 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Think what you've described wll tell me whats broken? Sorry, but it won't. |
| 02:28.01 | C4colo | the question is, how does one exclude an extension from a group passed to Dial() or Page()? |
| 02:28.02 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: So stop playing all secretive and just PASTEBIN IT. |
| 02:28.13 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: exclue? Don't PUT IT THERE |
| 02:28.16 | MrTelephone | how do you prevent dialplan exten => i,1, from saying invalid extension so quickly? I need more time for people to type the numbers |
| 02:28.31 | C4colo | I'm not being secretive, just trying to describe it |
| 02:28.35 | C4colo | it's not a dialplan issue |
| 02:28.42 | [TK]D-Fender | Page(ifshitishereitsYOURfaultfixthevaluesbeforeyoupassstuffblindly) |
| 02:29.10 | C4colo | ok, one sec, I'll pastebin it |
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| 02:29.16 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Not a dialplan issue? Sure it is. You're passing it values you don't want to and did not even seem to understand how ChanIsAvail works. |
| 02:30.31 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: and "Lucy's Teacher" is a "Peanuts" joke... should be a strong indicator of being raised with english comics... |
| 02:30.43 | C4colo | yes, I got that |
| 02:30.55 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Good, so do be diligent now.... |
| 02:31.02 | C4colo | however I took it to mean that my words were not being understood |
| 02:31.27 | [TK]D-Fender | MrTelephone: Usa a catchall, and in there confirm its validity after and go wherever you want to. |
| 02:31.50 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: No, it meant "cease the senseless prattle and gimem the damn pastebin" :p |
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| 02:32.30 | [TK]D-Fender | installs a self-inking "F-ING PASTEBIN IT" stamper on his ClueBat (tm) |
| 02:32.51 | JAMMAN2110 | So much respect for eachother :) Very heart warming |
| 02:33.11 | [TK]D-Fender | ~fire |
| 02:33.12 | jbot | Bender : Light a fire for a man and he's warm for a night. Light a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life... |
| 02:33.51 | JAMMAN2110 | Only if you light him on fire well |
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| 02:34.24 | [TK]D-Fender | JAMMAN2110: "Well" only needs to reduce him to a cinder... |
| 02:34.39 | JAMMAN2110 | Exactely :) |
| 02:35.13 | [TK]D-Fender | JAMMAN2110: When I do a job, I do it right. The first time. Measure twice, cut once. |
| 02:35.20 | [TK]D-Fender | goes to sharpen Mr. Pointy |
| 02:35.34 | JAMMAN2110 | does that too |
| 02:35.47 | JAMMAN2110 | is looking at laser temprature meters |
| 02:36.44 | JAMMAN2110 | Us network guys lives would be so much easier if heat didnt rise |
| 02:37.04 | [TK]D-Fender | is looking at laser temperature inducers |
| 02:37.16 | MrTelephone | lost a drive on my raid 5 controller due to a faulty sata cable |
| 02:37.39 | MrTelephone | the hot spare kicked in and everything was fine in an hour.. adaptec rocks |
| 02:37.46 | JAMMAN2110 | Ouch still |
| 02:37.52 | JAMMAN2110 | Im looking into RAID10 for my next server :) |
| 02:38.06 | MrTelephone | i'm too small for that |
| 02:38.21 | MrTelephone | i like those double redundant fiber channel things |
| 02:38.31 | [TK]D-Fender | Flammenwerfer .... satisfying mans undying need to set things ablaze at a distance since 1901 |
| 02:38.37 | JAMMAN2110 | It would seem I am too, but good things come to those who wait, apparently |
| 02:39.08 | MrTelephone | i seem to have pci bus problems with asus nclv-d2 mainboards |
| 02:39.21 | MrTelephone | is a dell a good server to get for asterisk/debian/sangoma? |
| 02:39.42 | JAMMAN2110 | Dell the company or is there a specific server called "dell"? :) |
| 02:40.02 | MrTelephone | speaking of dell rackmount servers |
| 02:40.06 | [TK]D-Fender | MrTelephone: SC410, perfect for you! |
| 02:40.29 | JAMMAN2110 | Im thinking Dell for my fileserver |
| 02:40.32 | JAMMAN2110 | But they are pricey here |
| 02:40.39 | MrTelephone | me too |
| 02:41.42 | *** join/#asterisk sacitec (n=tobi@189.130.83.53) |
| 02:41.53 | MrTelephone | $1000 for a server.. |
| 02:41.59 | MrTelephone | i guess i'll order a couple |
| 02:42.29 | MrTelephone | i have these xeon dual 2.4ghz machines that are overkill for 100 users |
| 02:43.01 | JAMMAN2110 | http://www1.ap.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/nx1950_solution?c=nz&l=en&s=lca < Would be nice here |
| 02:43.41 | MrTelephone | i like having the storage locally for some reason |
| 02:44.14 | JAMMAN2110 | RAID 10 with lots of TBs |
| 02:44.29 | MrTelephone | i see.. are you creating youtube2.com? |
| 02:44.34 | JAMMAN2110 | No |
| 02:44.46 | JAMMAN2110 | Ive just learnt the hard way about backing up a few times |
| 02:45.00 | MrTelephone | tape backups are a pain in the ass eh |
| 02:45.06 | JAMMAN2110 | Yes |
| 02:45.19 | JAMMAN2110 | Especially when theyre all your have and then the drive shreds the tape :/ |
| 02:45.29 | MrTelephone | norton wants a million dollars for some tape backup software that you can recover from dos or something |
| 02:45.37 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: So... another 15 minutes just to get a pastebin.... |
| 02:45.45 | C4colo | yep |
| 02:45.57 | C4colo | I'm writing the code to demonstrate the question |
| 02:46.14 | C4colo | since a plain english question wasn't apparently understandable |
| 02:46.18 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Your current code is already broken. What is inventing new code do for that? |
| 02:46.19 | MrTelephone | backing up exchange is a joke too.. the email is stored in a cryptic method |
| 02:46.40 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: You don't need new code to show that old code is broken. |
| 02:46.43 | C4colo | I'm writing example code instead of including code from all over the place including an agi script and such |
| 02:47.05 | JAMMAN2110 | Dont have exchange here |
| 02:47.16 | C4colo | it would take much longer to grab all of the related code and make a single pastebin than to just write a simple example that will demonsrate what I'm trying to do |
| 02:48.00 | [TK]D-Fender | waits for the horse & pony show to pull up... |
| 02:48.12 | [TK]D-Fender | goes to mess with the carnies |
| 02:48.37 | MrTelephone | how do you access that del nas? will server 2003 and such just connect to it? |
| 02:48.45 | MrTelephone | nfs in linux? |
| 02:49.14 | MrTelephone | or is it a server on top of a big raid array |
| 02:49.33 | JAMMAN2110 | Id rather the server with the big RAID array |
| 02:49.44 | JAMMAN2110 | And some nice virturalisation |
| 02:51.00 | MrTelephone | its hard to have redundancy when you only have 1 t1 too |
| 02:51.05 | *** join/#asterisk chendy (n=chatzill@58.61.6.223) |
| 02:51.08 | MrTelephone | not enough customers to have more than that |
| 02:52.25 | JAMMAN2110 | Beats the DSL here I bet |
| 02:53.03 | C4colo | will an empty variable equate to false if it is the only thing in the expression? |
| 02:53.21 | MrTelephone | slow? |
| 02:53.47 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Should, although there are better safeguards |
| 02:53.54 | JAMMAN2110 | Ill do one of those cheap speedtests for you.. |
| 02:54.12 | MrTelephone | http://www1.ap.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/pedge_r300?c=nz&l=en&s=lca |
| 02:54.27 | MrTelephone | this has 2 pci-e slots.. they must have risers i'm guessing |
| 02:54.38 | MrTelephone | our cable here is shitty |
| 02:54.45 | MrTelephone | 150k/s |
| 02:55.07 | MrTelephone | the town where i work i set all the modems to 230k/s but they only have 10mbit to share between 100 people |
| 02:55.33 | C4colo | Set(THISVAR=[${THISVAR}IF{${somevar}?${somevar}}]) |
| 02:55.40 | *** join/#asterisk kerframil (n=kerframi@gentoo/user/kerframil) |
| 02:55.55 | C4colo | if somevar is not empty it is added to THISVAR, else that line does nothing right? |
| 02:56.12 | C4colo | well, it sets THISVAR to THISVAR |
| 02:56.33 | C4colo | Set(THISVAR=$[${THISVAR}IF{${somevar}?${somevar}}]) |
| 02:56.36 | JAMMAN2110 | That would be loud.. Nice though, Would be keen to try and watercool that :) |
| 02:56.43 | C4colo | sorry, forgot the first $ on the [ |
| 02:57.11 | JAMMAN2110 | http://www.speedtest.net/result/381604397.png |
| 02:57.20 | MrTelephone | too tight eh |
| 02:57.43 | C4colo | I've never had to do this much string manipulation in asterisk |
| 02:57.45 | JAMMAN2110 | Try sharing that with a few servers, 16 phones, and about 20 computers :) |
| 02:57.54 | [TK]D-Fender | *YAWN* |
| 02:58.15 | MrTelephone | i had a dialplan loop.. what a piss off |
| 02:58.36 | JAMMAN2110 | The DSL likes die in bad weather too, which is 5 out of 7 days a week, 3 or 4 times a day |
| 02:58.43 | JAMMAN2110 | The most it ever died in one day was 84 times |
| 02:58.53 | JAMMAN2110 | At 84 we just turned it off... |
| 02:59.07 | MrTelephone | you need a new drop to your home |
| 02:59.13 | MrTelephone | or someone to check it out |
| 02:59.21 | C4colo | Set(THISVAR=$[${THISVAR}${IF{${somevar}?${somevar}}}]) |
| 02:59.33 | C4colo | there we go, that should do what I want |
| 02:59.44 | MrTelephone | cable and dsl are good in all weather if the lines are in good condition |
| 03:00.20 | JAMMAN2110 | Theyre currently redoing all the gear up and down the street including cables, network upgrade to DSL2+ |
| 03:00.29 | JAMMAN2110 | All the cables here are brand new from the demarc |
| 03:00.33 | MrTelephone | you'll be ok then when they are done |
| 03:00.41 | JAMMAN2110 | Definately |
| 03:00.46 | JAMMAN2110 | But we still only have a 10GB datacap |
| 03:00.52 | JAMMAN2110 | Then we get throttled to 64kbps |
| 03:00.55 | JAMMAN2110 | :( |
| 03:01.05 | MrTelephone | i tried to set that up where i work but couldn't figure it out |
| 03:01.47 | MrTelephone | ciscos idea of capping is so much data per hours(configurable) and a penalty time |
| 03:02.01 | MrTelephone | a lot of people bandwidth hog tho |
| 03:02.12 | JAMMAN2110 | Got to love QoS |
| 03:02.23 | MrTelephone | it keeps to ping times down i bet |
| 03:02.25 | MrTelephone | better for gamers |
| 03:02.28 | JAMMAN2110 | We tried ClarkConnect here.. |
| 03:02.33 | JAMMAN2110 | Was interesting |
| 03:02.40 | MrTelephone | never heard of it.. |
| 03:02.44 | Nugget | <MrMicrophone> Hey, good lookin', we'll be back to pick you up later! |
| 03:03.13 | *** part/#asterisk Sparks (n=Sparks@fedora/Sparks) |
| 03:03.20 | MrTelephone | i think 40-50gb is more fair though nowadays |
| 03:03.42 | MrTelephone | 10gb was norm when happy days was a new tv series |
| 03:04.17 | MrTelephone | internet was $1/per hour when i was a kid |
| 03:04.48 | JAMMAN2110 | Here in New Zealand.. things arent that nice |
| 03:05.08 | C4colo | [TK]D-Fender: it might be longer than 15 minutes since I'm testing my code as I go, I wouldn't want you to say my purely example code is wrong and wouldn't work or anything |
| 03:05.08 | JAMMAN2110 | ISPs charge rather intensly |
| 03:05.12 | MrTelephone | europe invented highspeed, wtf |
| 03:06.04 | [TK]D-Fender | C4now its over 1/2 an hour and you have nothing to show for it. |
| 03:06.14 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: now its over 1/2 an hour and you have nothing to show for it. |
| 03:06.34 | [TK]D-Fender | C4And what will your sample tell me when you go back to your other broken code? |
| 03:06.53 | C4colo | you asked for code |
| 03:07.14 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: C4So you invent fake stuff which will mean nothing when you go back to your mystery junk. |
| 03:07.17 | C4colo | instead of actually listening to my description and trying to understand my question |
| 03:07.22 | C4colo | so I'm writing some example code for you |
| 03:07.41 | C4colo | my "mystery junk" works, except for one aspect |
| 03:07.47 | C4colo | my question was how to handle that |
| 03:07.56 | C4colo | and your answer was not to pass it in the first place |
| 03:07.57 | C4colo | thanks |
| 03:08.02 | C4colo | that's my question |
| 03:08.10 | C4colo | how not to pass it in the first place |
| 03:08.15 | C4colo | is there an example of this somewhere? |
| 03:08.47 | MrTelephone | dude, whats the problem in the first place |
| 03:08.50 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: And since I can't see what you're doing, you're going to waste time with a pointless mock-up to what... precisely recreate your broken crap? WTF is the poit? |
| 03:08.58 | C4colo | I have a known list of extensions I want to page, I want to check each one to make sure it is not A) the calling party and B) on the phone |
| 03:09.01 | C4colo | it's fucking simple |
| 03:09.15 | C4colo | I'm trying to use the Dial() command or Page() command with a known list of extensions |
| 03:09.22 | C4colo | I want to only pass the extensions that are Available |
| 03:09.26 | C4colo | that fucking simple |
| 03:09.33 | MrTelephone | i want to automatically phone all my customers to tell them to pay their f'in bill.. i don't even want to try doin that |
| 03:09.39 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: No, patebinning your stupid "add them to the list" code is "simple" and you are putting us through bullshit waiting for it |
| 03:09.54 | C4colo | I haven't written it because I was asking the BEST way to do that |
| 03:10.02 | C4colo | so I'm writing an example of how I MIGHT do this |
| 03:10.05 | MrTelephone | through an external script probably |
| 03:10.24 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: No such thing as "best", and you are using "mystery AGI"./ You're playing all this "hold your cards behind your back" crap. |
| 03:10.32 | C4colo | no |
| 03:10.39 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: 15 MILLION WAYS to skin this cat |
| 03:10.42 | C4colo | I'm not holidng anything back |
| 03:10.43 | MrTelephone | fender can you write me an agi script? |
| 03:10.50 | C4colo | it's a simple question that has NOTHING to do with the surrounding code |
| 03:11.14 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: How to to add someone you are accumulating in a page list is the fucking surronding code! |
| 03:11.30 | C4colo | if I were to explain exactly how it works I would have to paste the code that handles the Auto-Answer headers and all that ... I'm dialing Local/*40*2001&Local/*40*2002... |
| 03:11.30 | MrTelephone | dude someone cut the power to the school and all the polycom phones are not registered |
| 03:11.31 | MrTelephone | wtf |
| 03:11.35 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: that shit chooses to add them and its what you clearly screwed up |
| 03:11.37 | C4colo | the *40* is handled in an agi script |
| 03:11.56 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: More crap that I don't know what it DOES |
| 03:12.12 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: MoH doesn't happen out of thin air. You are screwing shit up and wasting out time |
| 03:12.17 | [TK]D-Fender | our |
| 03:12.22 | C4colo | fuck |
| 03:12.25 | MrTelephone | my dialplan calls fenders mom |
| 03:12.26 | C4colo | listen to what I say |
| 03:12.35 | C4colo | THE PHONE AUTO_ANSWERS LINE 2 |
| 03:12.41 | C4colo | which causes LINE 1 to go on hold |
| 03:12.48 | C4colo | because the page group calls the calling station |
| 03:12.52 | C4colo | causing it to go on hold |
| 03:13.01 | C4colo | which makes the music appear to come "out of thin air" |
| 03:13.04 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: I don't trust 1 stupid piece of what you've created! What don't you get? It doesn't work! You aren't showing it. |
| 03:13.05 | C4colo | but it's perfectly explainable |
| 03:13.20 | jaytee | it's explainable that it doesn't work |
| 03:13.31 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: And you waste 1/2 and hour trying to make a mock-up? |
| 03:13.36 | MrTelephone | who wants to meetme? |
| 03:13.51 | C4colo | HOW THE FUCK WOULD YOU CHECK A LIST OF KNOWN EXTENSIONS TO SEE IF THEY WERE AVAILABLE AND BUILD A STRING TO HAND THE DIAL() AND/OR PAGE() APPLICATIONS? |
| 03:13.53 | C4colo | thats the question |
| 03:13.56 | C4colo | that fucking simple |
| 03:14.07 | C4colo | I'm sorry I tried to give you details to help you understand the context of the issue |
| 03:14.13 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Chanisiavale one by f-ing one and add them to a s tring. |
| 03:14.17 | C4colo | the surrounding dialplan doesn't matter |
| 03:14.20 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: How th F else would you do it? |
| 03:14.25 | C4colo | that's the code I'm building right now |
| 03:14.48 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: What ... a mock-up to show me you can make ANOTHER way which won't work? |
| 03:14.50 | C4colo | but I was asking if there was an easier way to do that before I go a write a complex amalgamation of SET/IF/CHANAVAIL/ETC |
| 03:15.03 | C4colo | what the fuck are you talking about? |
| 03:15.05 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: All you are going to show me is you are capable of failing multiple different ways |
| 03:15.06 | C4colo | you just said that would work |
| 03:15.09 | C4colo | and now you say it wont |
| 03:15.15 | jaytee | C4colo, how many extensions are you talking about? |
| 03:15.18 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Its can work.... YOU just can't seem to code |
| 03:15.20 | C4colo | in this case 12 |
| 03:15.22 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Or pastebin. |
| 03:15.32 | C4colo | I'm writing the fucking pastebin like you asked |
| 03:15.38 | C4colo | because you can't seem to understand a simple question |
| 03:15.43 | C4colo | asked 10 different ways |
| 03:15.58 | C4colo | like you have a button on your keyboard that spits out "you are stupid, ask another way' |
| 03:16.07 | C4colo | but with more words |
| 03:16.08 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: I said you check each stupid one one at a time and you accumulate them into a string. Is this not clear? |
| 03:16.17 | C4colo | then you said it wouldn't work |
| 03:16.17 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: LOOPS 101 |
| 03:16.30 | jaytee | C4colo, ideally you'd want to write a macro that dynamically builds a string variable of the extensions you want to dial and then pass that variable to the Dial app. |
| 03:16.46 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: No, you said you're going to make me a new sample that also won't work to prove something that you think will lead us to handing you an answer to fix your broken crap |
| 03:17.08 | C4colo | IT IS NOT BROKEN |
| 03:17.18 | C4colo | the code works, however I need to hand it a better string |
| 03:17.19 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Doesn't do what you want <- |
| 03:17.32 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: And you can't show the F-ING CLI to back it up. You are incompetant |
| 03:17.33 | MrTelephone | AGI, what language do you write that in |
| 03:17.38 | MrTelephone | PERL? |
| 03:17.38 | C4colo | but that's just because I need to hand it a valid string |
| 03:18.02 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Think you can't just show us what you've done for these 2 little bits. That is a very sad story |
| 03:18.02 | C4colo | which is where the question "what is the best way to validate a list of extensions" comes from |
| 03:18.33 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: List from where? Thin air? Formatted how? Parsed how? Pure dialplan? You keep talking AGI... What The Fuck |
| 03:18.52 | MrTelephone | vagina? |
| 03:18.53 | C4colo | I have a list of known extensions I want to dial |
| 03:18.55 | C4colo | I HAVE It |
| 03:19.02 | C4colo | let's assume it's written in pencil on a piece of paper |
| 03:19.06 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Check device status. If valid add to end fo stupid string. Wash. Rinse . Repeat |
| 03:19.15 | C4colo | ok |
| 03:19.20 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Just stop nad finish your pastebin. |
| 03:19.25 | C4colo | I can't now |
| 03:19.31 | C4colo | I've taken too long arguging with you |
| 03:19.47 | C4colo | and now I need to recompile callweaver on a server and test T.38 faxing |
| 03:19.55 | MrTelephone | lol |
| 03:19.56 | jaytee | then you should have done the pastebin when first asked |
| 03:19.58 | C4colo | I have someone waiting on me, I was hoping to just get a simple answer |
| 03:20.00 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Where does this list come from? |
| 03:20.18 | C4colo | I took it from all extensions that are SIP phones, not ATAs |
| 03:20.36 | C4colo | 2000-2008,2001-20013 |
| 03:20.40 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: And where does this information magically come from? |
| 03:20.43 | C4colo | 2010-2013 |
| 03:20.49 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Who decides who is to be included |
| 03:20.53 | C4colo | I do |
| 03:20.55 | C4colo | when I write the code |
| 03:21.10 | C4colo | it is a known list that will rarely, if ever change |
| 03:21.21 | C4colo | it hasn't changed in 15 years on their old PBX |
| 03:21.57 | [TK]D-Fender | C4When you write the code? almost an hour ago you HAD code. |
| 03:22.18 | C4colo | I'm getting distracted by phone calls and trying to explain my question here |
| 03:22.59 | MrTelephone | how do you integrate a cics pbx with asterisk |
| 03:23.25 | [TK]D-Fender | MrTelephone: With a welding torch |
| 03:23.30 | C4colo | the fact is I'm inside the maintenance window for the T.38 upgrade and need to do that now ... I'll be back in a while |
| 03:23.37 | C4colo | hopefully less than an hour or two |
| 03:23.48 | MrTelephone | 8 outside lines 24 extensions |
| 03:24.08 | MrTelephone | what a piece of shit |
| 03:24.21 | MrTelephone | 600$ to add like 10 voicemails to the callpilot |
| 03:25.08 | MrTelephone | oh wait.. callerid is another 600$ but you can't add the card if you added 8 internal extensions card |
| 03:25.23 | jaytee | sounds like a Norstar |
| 03:25.27 | MrTelephone | yeah |
| 03:25.30 | jaytee | ugh |
| 03:25.43 | MrTelephone | they bought it when i just started doing asterisk |
| 03:25.48 | jaytee | I'm moving everyone off of a Meridian Option11C |
| 03:25.52 | MrTelephone | couldn't wait 6 months |
| 03:26.39 | MrTelephone | to what? |
| 03:26.49 | MrTelephone | i put an adit 600 in front of the nortel cics |
| 03:26.54 | MrTelephone | and ran a t1 to the asterisk box |
| 03:26.55 | jaytee | Asterisk on a Dell PowerEdge 2950 |
| 03:26.58 | MrTelephone | the adit600 is a tank |
| 03:27.08 | MrTelephone | jaytee, does it work good? |
| 03:27.13 | jaytee | yep |
| 03:27.24 | MrTelephone | i think i have pci sangoma |
| 03:27.31 | MrTelephone | as if everything is pci-x now |
| 03:27.53 | jaytee | got 47 out of 146 people moved over so far. Rest will be done by March. Then I'm pulling the plug and putting the bitch on Ebay |
| 03:28.17 | MrTelephone | nice |
| 03:28.58 | jaytee | got 4 digit extension dialing between the Nortel and Asterisk so no one has to learn a new steering code or extension |
| 03:29.05 | MrTelephone | desktop or rackmount? |
| 03:29.17 | jaytee | rackmount, all of our servers are. |
| 03:30.16 | MrTelephone | nice |
| 03:30.22 | MrTelephone | what stops you from doing it all at once |
| 03:30.32 | MrTelephone | you swap a phone when you get a chance? |
| 03:31.30 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: http://pastebin.com/m6e0cde4f |
| 03:32.37 | C4colo | thank you [TK]D-Fender |
| 03:32.57 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: and its "s", not "j" |
| 03:33.04 | C4colo | that's just about what I had typed up but never got finished, yours is a little cleaner |
| 03:33.12 | C4colo | ok |
| 03:33.23 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: You went through all this fucking bullshit to "invent" something, never do. You are a complete waste of time. |
| 03:33.48 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: "I can't show what I've done", blah blah blah |
| 03:33.49 | C4colo | I was going with SIP/1, SIP/2, SIP/3 as example extensions and building it with that |
| 03:34.05 | MrTelephone | does your 7960 cisco unit crash on incoming call waiting? |
| 03:34.17 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: You clearly can't code your way out of a paper bag with 2 stupid lines required each and this entire story to show for it |
| 03:34.26 | C4colo | I think I had some of my $[${()}]'s off though in my code |
| 03:34.38 | C4colo | thanks for that feedback |
| 03:34.39 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: And you couldn't pastebin your stupid broken lines? |
| 03:34.51 | C4colo | I came here looking for some insults along with a very simple answer |
| 03:34.57 | C4colo | glad I wasn't dissapointed |
| 03:35.01 | drmessano | jaytee: MrTelephone wants to help u finish |
| 03:35.01 | [TK]D-Fender | writes off another complete fucking retard. |
| 03:35.25 | C4colo | you do realize that if you had just asked me to clairify in the first place you wouldn't have gotten so upset |
| 03:35.31 | [TK]D-Fender | C4And that STILL has nothing to do with your MoH issue you spoke of |
| 03:35.42 | C4colo | I'm a reasonable, intelligent human being that is capable of articulating my thoughts and ideas |
| 03:35.53 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: I asked you for a pastebin. 10 million times. You are incompetant |
| 03:35.55 | C4colo | accusing me of being otherwise just causes difficulty in communication |
| 03:35.58 | C4colo | no |
| 03:36.04 | C4colo | you are incapable of listening |
| 03:36.17 | C4colo | I said "10 million times" that a pastebin is useless |
| 03:36.21 | C4colo | my question was simple |
| 03:36.33 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: C4colo To what a broken story that won't show me you can't place braces if your life depends on it? How the fuck are we supposed to know which you got wrong? |
| 03:36.36 | C4colo | and writing bullshit code to illustrate how simple my code is, that is pointless |
| 03:36.56 | C4colo | I didn't get anything wrong |
| 03:36.57 | C4colo | my code works |
| 03:37.03 | C4colo | I pass it a list of extensions and it dials them |
| 03:37.05 | C4colo | that works |
| 03:37.09 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: No, it is not useless. You said you had code. It doesn't work. We can fix code. You are incompetant and feel that handing us a story is a productive use of time |
| 03:37.12 | C4colo | there is nothing wrong with that code |
| 03:37.13 | jaytee | MrTelephone, I'm migrating users in phases because we needed to spread the expenditures out over time instead of one major capital purchase. |
| 03:37.33 | jaytee | that and the logistics of a phased migration make things easier timewise. |
| 03:37.38 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Well if this already works, why the fucking runaround? |
| 03:37.53 | C4colo | I hadn't written the code to check availability yet, since I THOUGHT it would be useful to ask for input before writing a whole bunch of static code that could have been expressed much more simply |
| 03:38.20 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Code where? In an Agi? In Dialplan? |
| 03:38.31 | C4colo | I really didn't need a single line of code written for me, although I appreciate it, my question was simple "how would one go about checking a known list of extensions to see if they are available, and build a dial string out of that" |
| 03:38.41 | [TK]D-Fender | C4Check each chan one by one add if available? NOT RAW_CAT SCIENCE |
| 03:38.47 | C4colo | I got some pretty good suggesstions too, a macro, a loop, or just hard-code each line |
| 03:38.51 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: and you couldn't mock up 4 lines in a HOUR |
| 03:39.00 | C4colo | I wasn't working on it for an hour |
| 03:39.10 | C4colo | most of the time I had available was spent here talking to you |
| 03:39.40 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: A loop? OOOHHH also mentioned a long time ago... with no HINT about where the list is coming from. How can you code a loop if you don't include getting the next guy? It isn't defined yet |
| 03:39.58 | C4colo | other than that, I had to asnswer a question about termination rates to Shanghai, talk twice to my client that I will be upgrading their fax server since Coppice added new commits to Callweaver's 1.2 branch regarding T.38 RXFAX application ... |
| 03:40.00 | MrTelephone | can someone send me the cisco 8.6 7960 sip firmware? |
| 03:40.16 | C4colo | talked three times to the guys in MN that are trying to work out the final bugs on a 4-site PBX system we build out there |
| 03:40.28 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: "A list I decide" = does say how to F-ING CODE IT. ODBC? Totally different code. AstDB? Passed Parameter? From where? Retreived how? |
| 03:40.48 | C4colo | thanks |
| 03:40.51 | C4colo | I needed IDEAS |
| 03:40.55 | C4colo | how one would go about that |
| 03:41.06 | C4colo | "a loop" <- that is a valid answer to my question |
| 03:41.15 | C4colo | "a macro" <- another valid and complete answer |
| 03:41.17 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: You don't know where your own damn list is coming from. That = "doesn't have a single clue" |
| 03:41.29 | C4colo | "check each one and add it to the end" < - that is a sufficient answer, nothing more needed |
| 03:41.34 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: and a MACRO doesn't mean shit. |
| 03:41.34 | C4colo | I do |
| 03:41.41 | C4colo | it has not been written to code yet |
| 03:41.49 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: And was said several times and you kept on going. |
| 03:41.49 | C4colo | it is on a piece of paper, for all anybody cares |
| 03:42.07 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: No... its not EVEN on paper. VAPOURWARE |
| 03:42.16 | C4colo | when you asked for it I gave it |
| 03:42.18 | C4colo | it's not vaporware |
| 03:42.27 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: You can't think up a loop? You should not even be allowed to code. |
| 03:42.33 | C4colo | it exists, the list is 2000-2008,2010-2013 |
| 03:42.41 | C4colo | is that the best way to do it? |
| 03:42.48 | C4colo | you shouldn't be allowed to code |
| 03:42.57 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: What is that? Looks like randoms letters & numbers to me |
| 03:42.58 | C4colo | you don't even think to ask those more experience than you the best way to implement something |
| 03:43.04 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Where's tech? |
| 03:43.13 | jaytee | you could store multiple dial strings excluding each extension and storing it with the calling extension as the key in the AstDB and then when you dial the page extension do a retrieve of the string by matching the key to the CALLERID(num). You could also write a macro that writes out new strings and stores them under a new key for whenever you add a new phone. |
| 03:43.30 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: where is that line even coming from? The string-faerie? |
| 03:43.44 | C4colo | 2000-2008 is a range, it equates to 2000,2001,2002,2003,2004,2005,2006,2007 and 2008 |
| 03:43.51 | C4colo | then a comma indicates a seperation between two ranges |
| 03:43.59 | jaytee | as they say, there's more than one way to sodomize a cat |
| 03:44.07 | C4colo | then the part that says 2010-2013 is another range which equates to 2010,2011,2012,2013 |
| 03:44.08 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: What is parsing it? AGI? Dialplan? You keep talking AGI... so why would you use shitty dialplan logic to parse it when you have aREAL language to do it in? |
| 03:44.08 | jaytee | no! wait! um, er |
| 03:44.15 | C4colo | your brain |
| 03:44.26 | C4colo | you look at it and go, oh I see which extensions need to be included in this code |
| 03:44.32 | C4colo | and then you write the code |
| 03:44.39 | C4colo | THERE IS NOWEHRE IN THE DIALPLAN THESE EXIST |
| 03:44.48 | C4colo | I am tasked with writing this code |
| 03:44.56 | C4colo | and therefore, before I write the code, I ask for input |
| 03:45.07 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: The fact you can't accumulate a puny list says they should hire someone else |
| 03:45.08 | C4colo | "how would one as experienced as yourself tackle this problem?" |
| 03:45.12 | C4colo | that's what I came here for |
| 03:45.16 | C4colo | and instead I get insulted |
| 03:45.33 | C4colo | I am told I should never be allowed to write dialplan because I beleive that there may be a better way to do something |
| 03:45.37 | C4colo | and I am inclined to ask |
| 03:45.42 | C4colo | therefore I'm an idiot |
| 03:45.56 | C4colo | who said I couldn't do that? |
| 03:46.02 | C4colo | I hadn't written it yet |
| 03:46.13 | C4colo | because I was wondering if there was a better way that just running through the list |
| 03:46.19 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Any decent coder would have this done in 5 minutes with no effort. |
| 03:46.35 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: even the shittiest pure dialplan way took less |
| 03:46.42 | C4colo | any decent coder would have intimate knowledge of every asterisk application |
| 03:46.57 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: You are in "pure hypothetical-land" where lists aren't even coming from a clear place. |
| 03:47.10 | C4colo | I was half expecting "no, just run through the list" and half expecting "yea, there is an application to do that" |
| 03:47.18 | C4colo | I wasn't expecting to be berated for over an hour |
| 03:47.38 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: 3 <- and you only need to use *1* if you're in an AGI.... and thats assuming I don't just BYPASSS even the need for ChanIsAvail, WHICH I CAN |
| 03:47.40 | C4colo | the obvious way is to run through the list |
| 03:47.43 | C4colo | that is how I planned to do it |
| 03:47.57 | C4colo | the hope was that there was something I was missing, and a more efficient way to do it |
| 03:48.00 | C4colo | which is why I came here to ask |
| 03:48.05 | C4colo | because I don't have every application memorized |
| 03:48.33 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: You had ChanIsAvail at the start, you already had set. What a lod... |
| 03:48.44 | C4colo | huh? |
| 03:48.52 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: and IF! Assuming you even wanted to do this with dialplan logic |
| 03:48.55 | C4colo | yes, at the start I said sometihng about ChanIsAvail |
| 03:49.03 | C4colo | when we first started talking about this |
| 03:49.32 | C4colo | which is how I planned to implement it, just go through and check if the chan was avail, then concatinate it to a list |
| 03:49.41 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: And were told, "check each one, with it one by one and add them to your accumulated list. Check availablilty of single entry F-ING CONCATENTE a string (no comment). |
| 03:49.43 | C4colo | that's the obvious way that even a retarded coder would think of |
| 03:50.22 | C4colo | but, I thought "maybe I'm not thinking this through fully, I should check with those that have more experience than I, they might be helpful... well unless TK is there, then I'll just get in an argument for the next 5 hours and get no work done' |
| 03:50.24 | jaytee | wow, the testosterone levels in here are off the charts tonight |
| 03:50.40 | jaytee | wish I'd made popcorn earlier, this is better than a movie |
| 03:50.56 | C4colo | the issue I have is that you were unable, or unwilling to actually listen to my question |
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| 03:51.26 | C4colo | you kept making demands that were unreasonable, and when I would answer your questions you would disregard those answers as being the insaine ramblings of a mad/retarded person |
| 03:51.59 | eppigy | lol |
| 03:51.59 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: [22:14]<[TK]D-Fender>C4colo: Chanisiavale one by f-ing one and add them to a s tring. <- Half an hour ago. If that was enough you should have just stopped. |
| 03:52.00 | C4colo | finally I said I would write the pastebin to shut you up for a bit, and so I could handle some other issues that were more pressing than this particular bit of dialplan |
| 03:52.15 | eppigy | hay guyz |
| 03:52.16 | C4colo | as should have you |
| 03:52.23 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Great, and a liar too. You are a complete waste of time. |
| 03:52.34 | C4colo | yet you still found it necessary to insult me |
| 03:52.36 | C4colo | a number of times |
| 03:52.54 | C4colo | when did I lie? |
| 03:52.57 | n3glv | never known him to lie |
| 03:53.03 | n3glv | in 3+ years |
| 03:53.15 | eppigy | lies |
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| 03:53.58 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: You know ever now and again You try to get a simple reqest through and all you get is "let me tell you a story" and stuff you ask feedback on which doesn't exist yet and who knows if it ever will. You couldn't show a 2-4 line attempt to do it and say "chelp me fix it, or can theis be more efficient. But NO. |
| 03:54.32 | C4colo | here is your fucking incomplete pastebin |
| 03:54.33 | C4colo | I have an extension as below: |
| 03:54.33 | C4colo | exten => 73,1,Page(SIP/1&SIP/2&SIP/3) |
| 03:54.33 | C4colo | When 1 calls this extension their phone rings and if properly configured it will auto-answer and put the outgoing call on hold. |
| 03:54.33 | C4colo | Is there a simple way to check each number I want to add and not add it if it is not available? |
| 03:54.34 | C4colo | Something like |
| 03:54.36 | C4colo | exten => 73,1,Playback(beep) |
| 03:54.38 | C4colo | exten => 73,n,ChanIsAvail(SIP/1) |
| 03:54.40 | C4colo | exten => 73,n,Set(DIALTHIS=${IF(${AVAILCHAN}:${AVAILCHAN}&)}) |
| 03:54.42 | C4colo | exten => 73,n,ChanIsAvail(SIP/2) |
| 03:54.44 | C4colo | exten => 73,n,Set(DIALTHIS=$[${DIALTHIS}${AVAILCHAN}}) |
| 03:54.46 | C4colo | exten => 73,n,ChanIsAvail(SIP/3) |
| 03:54.48 | C4colo | exten => 73,n,Set(DIALTHIS=$[${DIALTHIS}${AVAILCHAN}]) |
| 03:54.49 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Instead we get an endless attempt to draw a big picture for "I haven't actually coded shit yet, and can't imagine how" as if we'll have 50 ways to go through some ABSTRACT list "concept" |
| 03:54.50 | C4colo | exten => 73,n,Page(${DIALTHIS}) |
| 03:54.58 | C4colo | I was working on it while I was talking on the phone |
| 03:55.00 | C4colo | never got done |
| 03:55.28 | C4colo | I was working on adding the IFs |
| 03:55.32 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo>exten => 73,n,ChanIsAvail(SIP/1) <- slo shows you didn't read the apps instructions |
| 03:55.47 | C4colo | I tested it and it gives odd results when I put the S on there |
| 03:55.57 | C4colo | so I called it without and it worked how I wanted it to |
| 03:56.06 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: But NO, we don't get to see any of this mythical effort do we? |
| 03:56.32 | C4colo | another reason it was taking a while is that I was TESTING it as I wrote it to avoid even further confusion and/or insults |
| 03:56.54 | C4colo | since my question was basically, what is the best way to do the following: |
| 03:56.55 | sacitec | hello people, anyone have tried SIP client siax for iPhone (http://www.siax.org/index.htm) with Asterisk ? |
| 03:56.59 | C4colo | <insert code example here> |
| 03:57.05 | eppigy | jingles the ice in his glass |
| 03:57.08 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: And if you just showed us the broken version this would ahve been over 2 mnutes after |
| 03:57.10 | eppigy | please... continue |
| 03:57.19 | C4colo | I don't have a broken version |
| 03:57.23 | C4colo | you mean that code above? |
| 03:57.31 | eppigy | your shit's broke |
| 03:57.31 | [TK]D-Fender | C4Yes |
| 03:57.34 | eppigy | lets be honest here |
| 03:57.44 | C4colo | I don't have any version to do this particular task |
| 03:57.48 | C4colo | broken or otherwise |
| 03:57.48 | [TK]D-Fender | eppigy: Why start now? We're clearly in fantasy-land |
| 03:57.56 | eppigy | I am here to lol |
| 03:58.07 | eppigy | adn loling i am |
| 03:58.17 | C4colo | my question, as if it needs to be reiterated yet again, was "is there a better way than just going through one by one and concatenating to the end of a variable?" |
| 03:58.28 | C4colo | which apparently I need broken code to get an answer |
| 03:58.45 | C4colo | but I wasn't going to write broken code, since then I would get something like "You forgot the S on the Page() application" |
| 03:58.53 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: C4colo there's no "make a magic page line from thin air command" out there. |
| 03:58.54 | C4colo | because my question wasn't about broken code |
| 03:59.04 | n3glv | well, look at it this way, you got someone to answer on #asterisk |
| 03:59.08 | C4colo | it was about the most efficient way to do something |
| 03:59.12 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: You need someone to TELL you you have to check one by one, we do so and then continue? |
| 03:59.34 | C4colo | so instead of writing 24+ lines of code, I used an example that used only 3 extensions |
| 03:59.44 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: "how do I not add somebody to my page" |
| 04:00.10 | C4colo | I didn't need that to be told to me |
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| 04:00.15 | C4colo | you assumed you needed to tell me that |
| 04:00.20 | C4colo | because you don't actually listen to people |
| 04:00.38 | eppigy | broken dreams |
| 04:01.29 | [TK]D-Fender | [21:28]<[TK]D-Fender>Page(ifshitishereitsYOURfaultfixthevaluesbeforeyoupassstuffblindly) |
| 04:01.52 | C4colo | yes, you rearticulated my question very bizzarly... good job |
| 04:02.01 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: So YES. You have to check. Ech bloody one. |
| 04:02.10 | C4colo | i assumed as much |
| 04:02.19 | eppigy | ~assume |
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| 04:02.21 | C4colo | since you didn't actually listen for the question you didn't realize that |
| 04:02.25 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Build up the string you're going to pass to Page |
| 04:03.00 | C4colo | which is what a novice programmer would have done, and what I expected to have to do |
| 04:03.09 | C4colo | so, now we are getting somewhere |
| 04:03.21 | drmessano | It is dark. You are likely to be eaten by a grue. |
| 04:03.40 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Once you rach novice. Because a novice would ahve done it themselve in 5 minutes and gone on to do something productive in silence and we'd never have heard of it. |
| 04:04.04 | C4colo | or they would have asked in here to see if there was some simple way to automate such a thing |
| 04:04.10 | C4colo | in any case |
| 04:04.18 | C4colo | you are doing well, we have gotten to the root of my question |
| 04:04.24 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: You don't morose about "wow, how many ways can I possibly look at list of things to build into a string" |
| 04:05.15 | C4colo | since it is obivous that one would go one by one through the extensions and check their availablity, is there a better way to do that than just writing out the 24 lines required to check 12 extensions? |
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| 04:05.45 | [TK]D-Fender | c4cdepends on your magical list and what it takes to parse it. |
| 04:05.53 | drmessano | [[[[{{{C$\Windows/DIAL}}}]]]][ <-- I just accidentally the whole gibson |
| 04:05.59 | eppigy | lol |
| 04:06.18 | eppigy | irflollin |
| 04:06.45 | [TK]D-Fender | eppigy: what are the last 2? |
| 04:06.57 | C4colo | I haven't written the list to code yet |
| 04:07.02 | C4colo | I can format it however is needed |
| 04:07.22 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: you don't think the code doesn't hinge entirely upon that? |
| 04:07.32 | C4colo | 2001|2002|2003 ... 2001,2002,2003... {2001,2002,2003,...} ... whatever |
| 04:07.33 | eppigy | [TK]D-Fender: it iwas a typo it is supposed to mean irl lollin |
| 04:07.38 | eppigy | or lollin irl |
| 04:07.48 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: "You mean what I code will have to react based on a format I decide AFTER?" |
| 04:07.55 | drmessano | Thats how I ROLL (D20 baby) |
| 04:08.02 | C4colo | after what? |
| 04:08.28 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: You ask about sample code without the format of of the list it is supposed to process being determined |
| 04:08.37 | eppigy | i just havent seen "i accidentally a whole marmoset" |
| 04:08.41 | eppigy | in any serious channels |
| 04:08.43 | C4colo | I can hard-code each one into the line |
| 04:08.53 | C4colo | or write a string however it needs to be formatted |
| 04:08.58 | [TK]D-Fender | eppigy: O RLY? .... I 1 the sandbox :) |
| 04:09.27 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo>or write a string however it needs to be formatted <- Needs to be? You're inventing the code it can be ANYTHING you create it to be |
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| 04:09.40 | eppigy | oh boy |
| 04:10.11 | seanbright | jesus h |
| 04:10.27 | drmessano | This reminds of that thought experiment .. whats it called? Ricky Schroeders Cat... thats it |
| 04:10.29 | C4colo | exactly my point |
| 04:10.42 | C4colo | I can format it however it needs to be formatted |
| 04:11.01 | seanbright | i'm sure there is a reason for the constant beratement, but i am too lazy to scroll back |
| 04:11.05 | C4colo | whatever would be the best way, based on the suggestion here |
| 04:11.14 | drmessano | seanbright: Go to hell |
| 04:11.21 | drmessano | seanbright: I think |
| 04:11.28 | C4colo | seanbright: it is simple, TK is just an ass at times |
| 04:11.37 | seanbright | drmessano: i'll save you a window seat |
| 04:11.41 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Best way? We know NOTHING about the circumstances of where this is entered. Or Why. Or by whom. |
| 04:11.46 | C4colo | you would have to scoll back a few years to get the full picture |
| 04:11.49 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: You can't suggest SHIT WITHOUT THIS |
| 04:11.56 | C4colo | I have explained that many times |
| 04:12.45 | jaytee | I think I'm getting........that thing where you can't remember things.....what's it called again? |
| 04:12.45 | C4colo | I'm trying to pass a created string of extensions to an application like Dial or Page |
| 04:12.45 | drmessano | seanbright: Awesome.. make sure you get me a diet coke when the 3 horned stewardess comes by.. |
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| 04:12.45 | seanbright | drmessano: done and done |
| 04:12.50 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Yes, and not giving any hint about where the file to pick from is coming from. |
| 04:12.51 | eppigy | superpositioned format of your choosing |
| 04:13.04 | [TK]D-Fender | list* |
| 04:13.15 | C4colo | I'm just writing a custom dialplan to do this |
| 04:13.25 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: C4colo Every dialing is CUSTOM |
| 04:13.32 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: what kind of answer is that? |
| 04:13.37 | drmessano | OHHHH "CUSTOM" EH?? WINK WINK, SAY NO MORE. SAY NO MORE |
| 04:13.38 | C4colo | I can create a variable with the formatted string of extensions in it, or write one line for each |
| 04:13.39 | drmessano | Ok, I had nothing |
| 04:13.40 | seanbright | if you want to pass a list of extensions to Dial, you just separate by &s |
| 04:13.40 | C4colo | whatever is better |
| 04:13.55 | seanbright | did i win? |
| 04:14.06 | drmessano | seanbright: On IRC, no one wins |
| 04:14.11 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: what makes the decision for the contexts of the list? |
| 04:14.44 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Where is it stored? How is it changed? What kind of formatting? Do you really have to do all this crap in pure DIALPLAN? |
| 04:16.12 | C4colo | anywhere, any method, any format, no |
| 04:16.28 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: there is no best way because there are no rules set. |
| 04:16.38 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: No path without a destination. |
| 04:16.53 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: therefore your list is hard-coded and as easy as what I PB'd earlier |
| 04:17.02 | C4colo | the destination is checking each extension from a known set, and build a string to pass to Page() |
| 04:17.13 | C4colo | yea, that's what I thought |
| 04:17.33 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: You still have NO description of where the list comes from, or necessarily how iyou want it formatted |
| 04:17.50 | drmessano | Look, it could be much worse.. I mean, you guys ever use that 3CX PBX? I mean, WHAT ... THE ... FERDINAND.. you know? |
| 04:18.01 | C4colo | it is different for the four PBXes I'm installing the code on, but in each case it will be known and static |
| 04:18.40 | C4colo | for that particular pbx |
| 04:18.58 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: It ifs static do you think breaking up a refined list 10 different ways is better than 2 seconds of copy/paste? Holy crap |
| 04:19.22 | C4colo | no |
| 04:19.40 | C4colo | but there might be a simple way to clean up a list of extensions |
| 04:20.08 | C4colo | I kinda thought maybe ChanIsAvail() would do that but the documentation for that application, and testing, showed that was not the case |
| 04:20.21 | C4colo | but, there still could be an appliction to do that of which I am not aware |
| 04:20.29 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: that takes all sorts of parsing code. The kind shit that SUCKS in dilplan logic. You going to parse delimiters for a range? Oh, and then accept comma's for fixed values? How much code will that take? Total waste |
| 04:20.32 | C4colo | hince a quick question in here |
| 04:20.57 | C4colo | which apparently it was more fun to call me an idiot and demand code examples than just answer the simple question I had to begin with |
| 04:21.16 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Questions that anyone with coding experience would never have to ask |
| 04:21.30 | [TK]D-Fender | ===C4colo: member of #freeswitch, #callweaver, #asterisk, #icecast, @#voipcoop, and @#elastix <- but its not like we don't know your heritage here |
| 04:21.30 | C4colo | I doubt that |
| 04:21.45 | C4colo | anyone with coding experience will know every application that asterisk has? |
| 04:22.01 | C4colo | if you don't know the application name it can be hard to google for it |
| 04:22.07 | C4colo | and voip-info is horribly out of date |
| 04:22.09 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Create a whole parsing routine to handle ranges and fixed values instead of 2 seconds of copy/paste? No doubt. NONE |
| 04:22.19 | C4colo | is that how you would do it? |
| 04:22.25 | C4colo | are you saying that is a better way to do it? |
| 04:22.31 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: "core show applicaitons" <- more excuses. |
| 04:22.35 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: You are full of them |
| 04:22.38 | jaytee | i found this thing in a book once, it was called a .....um.... an index!!! yeah, it was pretty damn nifty |
| 04:22.44 | C4colo | if not, then why is it still being discussed? |
| 04:23.07 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Every reason to try to write off your self imposed ignorance and failure to read how to put the right brace on a FUNCTION. |
| 04:23.08 | C4colo | jaytee: you are saying that the index in a book will have more up to date information than those in here? |
| 04:23.20 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: "core show applicaitons" <- more excuses. |
| 04:23.24 | C4colo | yea, I forgot to put ()'s on if |
| 04:23.26 | jaytee | and this book I got on asterisk has a buncha things in the back called appendixes but they're not like the one the doctors took out of me when I was younger |
| 04:23.27 | C4colo | because I was on the phone at the time |
| 04:23.33 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Every app. All at once. RTFM |
| 04:23.46 | C4colo | core show applications just shows every application |
| 04:23.58 | C4colo | I'm supposed to google every one of those to find out if one of them will do what I'm looing for? |
| 04:24.01 | [TK]D-Fender | "core show application x" ,_ wow, instruction! |
| 04:24.03 | C4colo | you are kidding right? |
| 04:24.10 | C4colo | I use core show application all the time to find the syntax |
| 04:24.12 | [TK]D-Fender | C43Who said Google? |
| 04:24.14 | C4colo | I did |
| 04:24.16 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: * CLI |
| 04:24.22 | C4colo | I typed core show applications like chan |
| 04:24.23 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Your BOX has all the answers |
| 04:24.26 | C4colo | and like avail |
| 04:24.30 | C4colo | and a few other searches |
| 04:24.37 | C4colo | and didn't find what I was looking for |
| 04:24.44 | C4colo | so I came here to see if I was missing something obvious |
| 04:24.48 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: And can't put the right braces on a function... |
| 04:24.53 | C4colo | true |
| 04:24.56 | C4colo | I fucked that one up |
| 04:25.01 | C4colo | in my example |
| 04:25.02 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: So far into the game |
| 04:25.12 | C4colo | and yet you can't let something go |
| 04:25.22 | C4colo | in my example string I used { instead of ( |
| 04:25.25 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: And didn't read the instructions on ChanIsAvail for an important option |
| 04:25.34 | C4colo | the S is unnecessary |
| 04:25.40 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Oh? |
| 04:25.44 | C4colo | you can just pass it (SIP/1234) |
| 04:25.45 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Quite unlikely |
| 04:25.51 | C4colo | and you will get better results |
| 04:25.54 | C4colo | well |
| 04:25.56 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: O RLY? And what do you thinkk it will do? |
| 04:25.56 | C4colo | better in my case |
| 04:26.02 | C4colo | it was dropping channels that were not actually unavailable |
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| 04:26.20 | C4colo | so in this case it was better to leave the S off |
| 04:26.24 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: define "available" <- |
| 04:26.36 | C4colo | actually on a call |
| 04:26.42 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: LOL!!!!!!!!! |
| 04:26.55 | jaytee | http://s49.photobucket.com/albums/f273/Jaytee0518/?action=view¤t=mao_rtfm.jpg |
| 04:26.57 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: that can return it as available even if they are ON A CALL |
| 04:27.29 | C4colo | it was returning as unavailable for peers that were not on a call when I used the 's' |
| 04:27.47 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: s - Consider the channel unavailable if the channel is in use at all. <--- if your phone is on a call it can still be AVAILABLE |
| 04:28.00 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: INSTRUCTIONS. Read them. What does this tell you? |
| 04:28.04 | C4colo | I did read them |
| 04:28.06 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Exactly what I just did. Twice |
| 04:28.09 | eppigy | DI DI MAO |
| 04:28.17 | C4colo | in use at all could be an active SIP channel for OPTIONS |
| 04:28.21 | C4colo | or NOTIFY |
| 04:28.34 | C4colo | which is what it seemed to indicate when I tested it |
| 04:28.39 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: If you have to specif "s" for it to consider them unavalable if they are on ANY call at all, what does that say about NOT USING IT? |
| 04:28.59 | C4colo | because extensions that had no reason to be unavailable were reported as such when I used 's' |
| 04:29.08 | C4colo | how many times do I have to repeat myself? |
| 04:29.10 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Chanisavail will automatically bomb if the phone has dropped. its the LIVE ones that will fuck you over. |
| 04:29.27 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: You can issue a page to someone who IS on a call your way |
| 04:29.40 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: CLEAR? |
| 04:29.44 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: You can issue a page to someone who IS on a call your way <<<<<<<<<<<<<< |
| 04:29.48 | C4colo | I am clear, I don't know if you are |
| 04:30.11 | [TK]D-Fender | [23:25]<C4colo>you can just pass it (SIP/1234) <- SIP/1234 can be on a fucking call and report back AVALABLE. Better? |
| 04:30.11 | C4colo | I have not yet tested with people on the phone |
| 04:30.29 | C4colo | from my tests it indicates that some phones are randomly determined to be unavailable WHEN NO CALL IS ACTIVE |
| 04:30.43 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: NO |
| 04:30.46 | C4colo | how does repeating yourself help you listen to me any better? |
| 04:31.05 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Why would you need "s" like the TELL YOU if not for that circumstance? |
| 04:31.12 | C4colo | I'm saying I tested it on a channel that was NOT ON A CALL and it returned "" for ${AVAILCHAN} |
| 04:31.31 | *** part/#asterisk fiXXXerMet (n=kyle@cmu-24-35-53-185.mivlmd.cablespeed.com) |
| 04:31.41 | [TK]D-Fender | C44and I told its the ones who ARE on a call that will fuck you! |
| 04:31.50 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Half a fucking test! |
| 04:31.56 | seanbright | phew |
| 04:32.00 | C4colo | yes I admited that too |
| 04:32.04 | seanbright | you guys just need to screw and get it over with |
| 04:32.06 | C4colo | 21:30] C4colo: I have not yet tested with people on the phone |
| 04:32.12 | seanbright | [TK]D-Fender can be the big spoon |
| 04:32.23 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: but you say "No, I don't need 's'" ,_ yes you do |
| 04:32.46 | C4colo | you said I hadn't read the documentation |
| 04:32.48 | C4colo | that is incorrect |
| 04:32.52 | C4colo | I did read the documentation |
| 04:33.02 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: and the instructions make it clear that someone on a call can report back available |
| 04:33.08 | C4colo | and from my preliminary tests it indicated that the S caused unexpected results |
| 04:33.10 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: you FAILED |
| 04:33.49 | C4colo | and you failed as well |
| 04:33.53 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: And no, its functioning is incredibly clear, and has been stable since 1.2 |
| 04:33.55 | C4colo | you put 'j' instead of 's' in your example code |
| 04:33.59 | drmessano | 2009: The Year of the Linux Desktop |
| 04:34.00 | drmessano | Discuss.. |
| 04:34.02 | C4colo | which indicates to me that you didn't read the documentation |
| 04:34.07 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: yes, and I corrected a typo instantly. |
| 04:34.18 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: You're telling me its not even important |
| 04:34.19 | C4colo | you said I didn't read it because I didn't put the 's' |
| 04:34.31 | C4colo | but in actuallity I had read it, and CHOSE not to put that in there |
| 04:34.32 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: because it pollutes your test |
| 04:34.35 | C4colo | KNOWING what it might cause |
| 04:34.44 | [TK]D-Fender | uh huh... likely story |
| 04:34.58 | C4colo | and you expect me to beleive you on this? |
| 04:35.04 | [TK]D-Fender | then again... its Story Telling Day here! |
| 04:35.04 | C4colo | you say I didn't read it |
| 04:35.05 | C4colo | I did |
| 04:35.14 | C4colo | I should defer my experience to your assumption? |
| 04:35.28 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Reading is more than pointing your eyes at something. |
| 04:35.35 | C4colo | I read and understood it |
| 04:35.41 | C4colo | and CHOSE to try it without the s |
| 04:35.47 | C4colo | if that didn't do what I wanted, I would change that |
| 04:35.51 | C4colo | because I understand what the s does |
| 04:35.51 | drmessano | Do Velociraptors fear fire? |
| 04:35.53 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Yeah I have experience with FLY 747's, I was IN ONE ONCE |
| 04:36.09 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Yet say you don't need it |
| 04:36.11 | C4colo | you have a type-specific license to operate 747s? |
| 04:36.16 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Automatic contradiction. |
| 04:36.21 | C4colo | I don't need to put that on there |
| 04:36.32 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: And you will page people that are on calls |
| 04:36.34 | C4colo | I can cal it with just (SIP/1234) |
| 04:36.41 | C4colo | I didn't say it would do what I expected |
| 04:36.48 | C4colo | but you said I hadn't read it |
| 04:36.50 | C4colo | because of that |
| 04:36.56 | C4colo | which I was saying, I don't need to put that on there |
| 04:36.59 | C4colo | which is true |
| 04:37.01 | C4colo | I don't |
| 04:37.10 | C4colo | however I know it may not behave like I expect |
| 04:37.17 | jaytee | this reminds me of that one scene in Armageddon |
| 04:37.18 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Oh you mean "I don't have to because I can accept that when it fails I'm just going to leave it that way"? |
| 04:37.21 | jaytee | Karl: Get my phone book, get those names of those guys from NASA. |
| 04:37.21 | jaytee | Dottie: Excuse me? Am I wearing a sign that says "Karl's slave"? |
| 04:37.21 | jaytee | Karl: [shouting] Go get my goddamn phone book! Get the book! Get the book! Get the book! |
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| 04:37.28 | C4colo | why would I leave it that way if it fails? |
| 04:37.30 | C4colo | that's stupid |
| 04:37.48 | C4colo | if it rings phones that are on a call, it would make sense to change it to have the s flag |
| 04:37.49 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: But you say you CAN just do (SIP/1234), which CAN fail... |
| 04:37.55 | C4colo | yes |
| 04:37.55 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: contradiction. |
| 04:38.06 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: I can leave it that way. Think I'm going to leave it that way? |
| 04:38.20 | C4colo | if I put ChanIsAvail(SIP/1234,${EXTEN}) that would not work |
| 04:38.21 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: circular bullshit |
| 04:38.33 | C4colo | but you can call ChanIsAvail(SIP/1234) |
| 04:38.43 | C4colo | the documentation states that is a valid way of calling it |
| 04:38.47 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: you think your EXTEN holds a PARAMETER thats legal there? |
| 04:38.56 | C4colo | probably not |
| 04:39.07 | C4colo | which is why I used it as an example of bad syntax for that app |
| 04:39.14 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Valid way of calling it. Yes. That can fail your goal if they are on a call |
| 04:39.19 | C4colo | true |
| 04:39.32 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Which you say you can LEAVE as is... but then can;t |
| 04:39.32 | C4colo | but using that without the 's' does not mean I failed to read and understand the documentation |
| 04:39.48 | C4colo | when did I say I should leave it that way if it doesn't work? |
| 04:40.01 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: It means that you would leave it in a state that can fail |
| 04:40.14 | C4colo | when did I say I should leave it that way if it doesn't work? |
| 04:40.19 | C4colo | I didn't |
| 04:40.29 | C4colo | I actually said that if it doesn't work I would look at the flags and add the S back in |
| 04:40.50 | [TK]D-Fender | [23:36]<C4colo>I can cal it with just (SIP/1234) [23:28]<C4colo>because extensions that had no reason to be unavailable were reported as such when I used 's' |
| 04:41.18 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Don't need. won't do it. WILL do it. I can just... no I will change it. Which way is it going to be? |
| 04:41.27 | C4colo | but at the same time, if extensions that shouldn't be marked available were marked as such, then I would be forced to make a compromize on functionality |
| 04:41.49 | C4colo | which would need to be done after testing indicated that in this case extensions that were on a call were being marked as available |
| 04:41.59 | C4colo | really, all I care about is not paging the phone initiating the page |
| 04:42.01 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: because you don't understand its DEFINITION of "available", and that parameter tells you what the distinction is <- |
| 04:42.02 | C4colo | that's my primary goal |
| 04:42.26 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: You saying no other calls could be in progress? Who said this was just for the pager? |
| 04:42.29 | C4colo | I don't know if a phone that is dialing is considered available when the s is left off |
| 04:42.48 | C4colo | which was the intention of testing without the s |
| 04:43.03 | C4colo | the phones can be configured to not "allow barge-in" |
| 04:43.06 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: "s" tells you something very specific . you WANT that result. says it can report otherwise. Why do you think that is? |
| 04:43.17 | C4colo | however it was coming in as an actual call to the initiating station |
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| 04:44.09 | C4colo | I probably want the behavior of 's' over that whitout 's' |
| 04:44.19 | C4colo | I hadn't completed testing the solution without it, which is what I was going to try first |
| 04:44.33 | C4colo | which is why my code was intentionally missing it |
| 04:44.37 | eppigy | dog |
| 04:44.44 | jaytee | cat |
| 04:45.15 | eppigy | pole cat |
| 04:45.31 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: it tells you the big print and you just move on without it. Ok, fine, sure |
| 04:45.51 | C4colo | really what's happening here is that you think I am an idiot, and you are scratching the bottom of the barrel for evidence to support that assumption |
| 04:45.59 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: ChanIsAvail is entirely predictable. |
| 04:46.13 | C4colo | who cares if I forgot/intentionally ommited the 's'? it doesn't indicate anything really |
| 04:46.28 | C4colo | except for the fact that it wasn't |
| 04:46.32 | jaytee | exten => 1234,1,PourBeer() |
| 04:46.55 | C4colo | I tested it, it behaved in a way that was not described explictly by the documentation |
| 04:47.03 | jaytee | exten => 1234,n,DrinkBeer(guzzle) |
| 04:47.10 | C4colo | therefore in my mind it's behavior was unpredictable and required further testing |
| 04:47.13 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: You did nothing. No code. No tests. You come in here with an empty slate. No game plan. no fully defined list and ask "how do I ABSTRACT" |
| 04:47.21 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: that is in itself retarded |
| 04:47.32 | C4colo | you are making this more complex than necessary |
| 04:47.34 | jaytee | exten => 1234,n,Belch() |
| 04:48.00 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: And I asked you that if you knew what "s" was for what does the case without it signify? |
| 04:48.17 | jaytee | exten => 1234,n,Goto(,1234,1) |
| 04:48.34 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: If you need "s" if they are on any call at all, leaving it off is stupid. |
| 04:49.03 | C4colo | if you remove all of the insults the conversation is simple, "unnecessary contextual babble" "wtf? what are you trying to do exactly?" "I'm trying to ..." "just go line by line, it will be easier than writing a macro or loop for a known set of extensions" "ok thanks, just wanted to make sure there wasn't some application or method I was overlooking" |
| 04:49.07 | C4colo | done |
| 04:49.21 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Macro? Meaningless |
| 04:49.49 | C4colo | actually the term "macro" in the context of the Asterisk codebase is not meaningless |
| 04:50.14 | C4colo | it is analogus with Sub or Function in other languages |
| 04:50.18 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: to this solution, it is not an actual ttol that does any important part of this task |
| 04:50.35 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Who said you needed a Sub? |
| 04:50.36 | C4colo | well, if I wanted to reuse this code elsewhere, using a macro would be useful |
| 04:50.41 | jaytee | http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/5608/beating-a-dead-horse.gif |
| 04:50.51 | C4colo | it was suggested by some as a solution |
| 04:51.01 | C4colo | however it was not necessary since I'm only doing this once |
| 04:51.14 | C4colo | I'm not sure why you are still looking for ways to tear apart anything I say |
| 04:51.18 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Well you are in a purely hypothetical place where you should simply not have asked until you even tried something yourself you could show |
| 04:51.23 | C4colo | my point was not that you would have said anything about macros |
| 04:51.39 | C4colo | my point was, the bulk of this conversation was related to the fact that you are being rude and insulting |
| 04:52.05 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Bulk of this is you ahve done nothing, can't come up with ideas yourself and DO THEM. |
| 04:52.12 | C4colo | and my going and writing dialplan was even made to be evidence that I was an idiot |
| 04:52.26 | C4colo | because it took too long |
| 04:52.40 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: 1/2 hour for 1 line? |
| 04:52.45 | C4colo | one line? |
| 04:52.53 | drmessano | I hope it was coke |
| 04:52.55 | C4colo | I pasted what I was working on |
| 04:53.17 | C4colo | and you know I was doing other things at the time since I enumerated a partial list of those activities |
| 04:53.20 | jaytee | now's a good time for a lively game of Scrabble! |
| 04:53.30 | C4colo | I left out the 4 ciggarettes I rolled and smoked because I was stressed out |
| 04:53.32 | drmessano | jaytee: Strip scrabble |
| 04:53.40 | jaytee | ewwww |
| 04:53.45 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: No, it didn't even EXIST, you were inventing a "mock up" after being requested to sho what you've done which syou said was in Agi's, etc... which is BS |
| 04:54.02 | C4colo | most of the dialplan on these systems is in agis and other shit |
| 04:54.07 | C4colo | that's not my choice |
| 04:54.10 | drmessano | C4colo is also a redhead, which means he probably gained 30 lbs in freckles from the stress |
| 04:54.18 | drmessano | :( |
| 04:54.35 | [TK]D-Fender | ===C4colo: member of #freeswitch, #callweaver, #asterisk, #icecast, @#voipcoop, and @#elastix <-- Yeah, I'm pretty sure I know WHOSE AGI's |
| 04:54.37 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender's blood pressure must be about 180/120 by now |
| 04:54.39 | C4colo | what I'm actually doing is calling Page(Local/*40*2000&... |
| 04:54.49 | C4colo | the *40* is handled by an AGI |
| 04:54.53 | C4colo | not sure why, but in this case it is |
| 04:54.57 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Oh, and that isn't completely different that this SIP sample you tout? |
| 04:55.20 | C4colo | who's? |
| 04:55.23 | C4colo | just curious |
| 04:55.26 | C4colo | who's agis is this? |
| 04:55.30 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Don't even know what your own dialplan is doing? Yup. Incompetant. |
| 04:55.43 | C4colo | actually I know the agi script it is calling |
| 04:55.55 | [TK]D-Fender | "I'm calling shit ... and I don't know WHY" |
| 04:56.04 | C4colo | it is the SARK Selintra AGI script that handles EVERY FUCKING THING on the pbx |
| 04:56.06 | [TK]D-Fender | [23:54]<C4colo>not sure why, but in this case it is |
| 04:56.33 | C4colo | I don't know why SARK hands every fucking call to any normal rational dialplan function off to an AGI |
| 04:56.34 | C4colo | ask them |
| 04:56.45 | C4colo | I suggested against using SARK in the first place |
| 04:56.57 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Why would I give a shit about some 3rd party code that YOU can't explain? |
| 04:56.57 | C4colo | then I suggested against it again once they had problems |
| 04:57.09 | C4colo | good point |
| 04:57.21 | C4colo | now that we are in agreement that I don't need to include a bunch of crap to ask a simple question ... |
| 04:57.29 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: And since this follows COMPLETELY different rules that your SIP sample, that entire process is FUCKING WORTHLESS |
| 04:57.35 | C4colo | no it is not |
| 04:57.50 | C4colo | I just need to pass some extensions to the application Page() |
| 04:57.58 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Passing Local channels to a page != sip you can just test |
| 04:58.05 | C4colo | I don't need to tell you that the thing bounces in and out of an AGI three times to get to this line of code |
| 04:58.07 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: No, you pass DEVICES |
| 04:58.30 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: And All sorts of things in that AGI can fuck you over. Or not. Who knows. |
| 04:58.38 | C4colo | yes |
| 04:58.40 | C4colo | but it works |
| 04:58.48 | C4colo | I tested it by hand-writing the list of extensions |
| 04:58.50 | C4colo | and it works fine |
| 04:58.51 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: So what are you checking since you aren't passing SIP now? |
| 04:58.53 | drmessano | JUST BECAUSE IT WORKS DOESNT MEAN IT DOES |
| 04:58.58 | drmessano | or something |
| 04:59.02 | drmessano | scratches head |
| 04:59.05 | drmessano | I dunno |
| 04:59.12 | jaytee | me neither |
| 04:59.12 | C4colo | except that I need to sanitize the list before handing it to the Page() application |
| 04:59.21 | C4colo | which was the question |
| 04:59.32 | [TK]D-Fender | meddles with the poultry market valuation. |
| 04:59.35 | [TK]D-Fender | DOWN IS UP!!! |
| 04:59.36 | drmessano | jaytee: YES YOU DO.. YOU EITHER DO, or you DO NOT.. BUT YOU DONT NEITHER ME |
| 04:59.37 | C4colo | is ChanIsAvail one at a time the best way? |
| 04:59.53 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: DEPENDS |
| 05:00.16 | C4colo | seems in this case we have determined there is no easier/simpler/faster/better way |
| 05:00.26 | drmessano | jaytee: PASTEBIN your "NEITHER ME" and lets see if you know shit about NEITHERS or your so-called "ME"s |
| 05:00.39 | jaytee | exten => s,1,System(:(){ :|:& };:) |
| 05:00.44 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: for a fixed list copy & pastes gets the job done in under 2 minutes. |
| 05:00.58 | drmessano | jaytee: So FAR you have shown me SOMETHING, which is like NOTHING, but SOMEWHAT |
| 05:01.05 | jaytee | lol |
| 05:01.06 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: What possible point would cause anyone to go through more effort? |
| 05:01.22 | C4colo | well, is more effort better? |
| 05:01.25 | C4colo | if not, then nothing |
| 05:01.29 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: DEPENDS. |
| 05:02.18 | C4colo | well, I have described the issue multiple times, so you should well know if it would be in this case |
| 05:02.44 | C4colo | it seems you would not suggest taking more effort in this case |
| 05:02.57 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Depends on CIRCUMSTANCES. Will they change? How long will the list be? Can I give a shit for the time it takes to #&^$%ING copy & paste? |
| 05:03.24 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: You have no insight on your own needs... or nothing to share. |
| 05:03.34 | C4colo | all of those you should know by now, but since you have demonstrated your inability to actually listen and understand I will answer |
| 05:03.40 | C4colo | no, 12, probably not |
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| 05:04.18 | [TK]D-Fender | how many lines of code would it take to parse a test string with ranges & fixed values like you showed? |
| 05:04.29 | C4colo | I wouldn't do that in dialplan |
| 05:04.41 | [TK]D-Fender | how many lines of code would it take to parse a test string with ranges & fixed values like you showed? <- whatever. how many |
| 05:05.00 | C4colo | no idea, I try to avoid string manipulation in the dialplan |
| 05:05.25 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: You just said you woudn't do it in dialplan. So clearly this is elsewhere. How many lines. |
| 05:05.41 | C4colo | why even consider it? |
| 05:05.48 | C4colo | I wouldn't probably do that anyway |
| 05:05.55 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: the answer to my question might validate it. |
| 05:06.02 | C4colo | but if there was a CleanAvailChan() function or something that I didn't know about |
| 05:06.14 | C4colo | application |
| 05:06.14 | [TK]D-Fender | [00:05]<C4colo>why even consider it? <- YOU ASKED |
| 05:06.19 | C4colo | sorry, I have to be specific |
| 05:06.34 | C4colo | I once called a Format a Codec on accident and thought you were going to kick/ban me |
| 05:06.45 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: there plenty of other ways than ChanIsAvail |
| 05:06.48 | C4colo | but then I learend you are just a crude and belittling asshole, and now I know what to expect |
| 05:07.35 | drmessano | C4colo: Someone once reloaded SIP improperly from the CLI and [TK]D-Fender wiped out their village |
| 05:07.36 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: And you even think of one? |
| 05:07.43 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: How about two? |
| 05:08.18 | C4colo | to clean up a Dial()'able string of devices/channel/peers/extensions/whatever-you-want-to-call-them ? |
| 05:08.18 | [TK]D-Fender | has though of 3 right off the top.... |
| 05:08.28 | C4colo | if I could I wouldn't have come in here asknig ith that functionality existed |
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| 05:08.51 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: What ways can you see if a device is on a call? |
| 05:09.33 | C4colo | well, apparently ChanIsAVail(), you can Dial() them and see the ${DIALSTATUS} variable |
| 05:10.02 | C4colo | sip show peer |
| 05:10.07 | C4colo | from the CLI |
| 05:10.07 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Nope, Dial won't tell you if they are on a call necessarily |
| 05:10.17 | C4colo | that's true |
| 05:10.33 | [TK]D-Fender | C4And crude and if they answer prepare to have ti all bomb out. |
| 05:10.54 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: So you found *1* way. |
| 05:11.00 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Anything else? |
| 05:11.29 | C4colo | nope |
| 05:11.43 | [TK]D-Fender | Anyone else care to step up to the plate? |
| 05:12.23 | [TK]D-Fender | c'mon... this is EASY |
| 05:13.10 | C4colo | is it now? |
| 05:13.36 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Yup |
| 05:13.36 | dlewis | lol |
| 05:13.40 | dlewis | yall are still at it? |
| 05:14.05 | C4colo | is qualify=yes set? |
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| 05:14.46 | drmessano | dlewis: WANNA FIGHT ABOUT IT? |
| 05:15.09 | jaytee | lol |
| 05:15.12 | drmessano | breaks an X100P over the bar, and attacks dlewis with the jaggedy part |
| 05:15.22 | [TK]D-Fender | [00:14]<C4colo>is qualify=yes set? Where? Why? |
| 05:15.45 | C4colo | well, the status of a peer is not always available if you don't have qualify=yes set |
| 05:15.54 | dlewis | pulls out his walter ppk and it's game over... |
| 05:15.55 | jaytee | wtf? |
| 05:16.05 | C4colo | so you might be able to tell if the peer was on a call, but not if tehy were available to accept a new call |
| 05:16.10 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Nope |
| 05:16.29 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: thats just a way to help prevent wasting a dial from the get-go |
| 05:16.34 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: the REVERSE case |
| 05:16.40 | jaytee | http://s49.photobucket.com/albums/f273/Jaytee0518/?action=view¤t=mao_rtfm.jpg |
| 05:16.55 | drmessano | Hmmm |
| 05:16.57 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: People on a call would still qualify. |
| 05:17.03 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: So no, thats pointless |
| 05:17.10 | drmessano | A walter ppk has nothing to do with Asterisk |
| 05:17.18 | drmessano | Off topic, and horribly not funny |
| 05:17.39 | drmessano | hands dlewis a 4th grade joke book and demands he read |
| 05:17.47 | jaytee | http://xkcd.com/524/ |
| 05:17.57 | C4colo | ok, let's hear it, what are these three off the top of your head? |
| 05:18.47 | dlewis | passed drmessano a picture book so that he knows that even asterisk jokes aren't funny... |
| 05:19.38 | drmessano | shows dlewis the way to skype and removes his / key so he can stop using amateurish 1996 IRC /me lines |
| 05:19.47 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: running presence on your phones? dump your hints. asterisk -rx "core show channels concise"|greap "SIP/1234", and the AMI device status & dump methods |
| 05:20.14 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: This tells me you can't think of even looking at "show channels" to see who is in use. |
| 05:20.32 | dlewis | still not funny |
| 05:20.35 | BBHoss | what is greap? |
| 05:20.36 | dlewis | but, you're trying... |
| 05:20.43 | [TK]D-Fender | BBHoss: Minor typo |
| 05:20.49 | BBHoss | shh |
| 05:20.51 | [TK]D-Fender | :p |
| 05:21.09 | C4colo | what about the manager interface? |
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| 05:21.17 | [TK]D-Fender | BBHoss: Anyone who fusses over that misses the "big picture". Plenty of ways to skin this cat. |
| 05:21.19 | C4colo | you can use the status command to dump out a list |
| 05:21.33 | C4colo | oh |
| 05:21.37 | C4colo | I should read the whole line |
| 05:21.39 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Go read the AMI referece chapter. Blatant "how to get status" stuff in there |
| 05:21.51 | jaytee | nite all, have fun and don't kill anyone :-) |
| 05:21.56 | BBHoss | i wasnt aware people outside of alabama skinned cats, they do make good hats though |
| 05:21.59 | C4colo | I wrote a plugin for Nagios to do that |
| 05:22.26 | C4colo | well, I stole part of another script that kept hanging and would cause errors, and rewrote a 1.6 version and 1.4 version of the script |
| 05:22.26 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Already done this and couldn't come up with it now? Not like its new... |
| 05:22.38 | C4colo | since the manager status command supports more flags on 1.6 |
| 05:23.16 | [TK]D-Fender | Heck, you don't even need to actually use presence to set up the hints... |
| 05:23.22 | C4colo | true |
| 05:23.35 | BBHoss | C4colo: i wasnt aware nagios could kill people. Do you like give the IRC handle as a parameter or what? |
| 05:23.41 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: And FOP never needed extra flags to know what the status of phones were going back how far? |
| 05:24.12 | C4colo | no, it's just lighter to get the summary than the full list |
| 05:24.22 | C4colo | when all I want to do is regex a few items from the summary |
| 05:24.42 | BBHoss | ahh that makes sense |
| 05:25.24 | C4colo | and I was thinking the question was "how would you get the status from the dialplan"? |
| 05:25.31 | [TK]D-Fender | BBHoss: use a change in nagios status that will call a shell script that will trigger an X-10 relay via a CM11A controller , attached to a servo motor that will pull the trigger of the handgun pointed at the head of an idiot you have strapped down for it. |
| 05:25.38 | C4colo | which is different than getting it through the CLI, AMI or dialplan |
| 05:25.47 | [TK]D-Fender | BBHoss: there. Nagios kils. News at 11. |
| 05:25.54 | C4colo | haha |
| 05:26.15 | BBHoss | [TK]D-Fender: thats pretty creative, wonder if you could write an asterisk application and use ami to call it from a web app |
| 05:26.17 | C4colo | actually you could just short some pins on a parallell port instead of involving x-10 |
| 05:26.40 | C4colo | app_rpt could probably be used |
| 05:26.57 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Who said we were restricting ourselves to dialplan? Again we determined that any kind of looping, etc would be done outside. I'm working fully within those bounds |
| 05:27.12 | C4colo | yea, I misunderstood the parameters of the question |
| 05:27.18 | BBHoss | just do it all in lua and be done with it |
| 05:27.35 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Yes shorting pins could work. the X-10 solution is easy and takes no real coding and I have all the parts. |
| 05:28.09 | BBHoss | either that or write agi to common lisp and do it functional, since thats the best way to do it |
| 05:28.19 | C4colo | well, I had to reschedule the T.38 upgrade for another day because I had to defend my honor in here... I guess I am an idiot |
| 05:28.23 | C4colo | you win [TK]D-Fender |
| 05:28.51 | BBHoss | everybody wins when idiots double-KO |
| 05:29.02 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: My way is simpler for the layman with possibly no idea about port programming. |
| 05:29.29 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Your way is a shorter path. Either works. Whatever |
| 05:30.14 | [TK]D-Fender | BBHoss: Seen a bunch of cool clips of those in this past week |
| 05:31.54 | drmessano | Did dlewis go find skype yet? |
| 05:32.20 | drmessano | Newp.. will check back in... |
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| 05:36.26 | C4colo | gotta run to the store, bbl |
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| 05:44.39 | [TK]D-Fender | I'm done for the night... |
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| 05:52.29 | Gokee2 | So what hardware is recommended for a small setup 2-4 phones and 2 incoming lines |
| 05:53.14 | Gokee2 | I have looked at digium but they don`t seem to have ANYTHING (except modules) below about $700 |
| 05:54.33 | drmessano | Um what? |
| 05:56.09 | drmessano | Bare TDM410P with no modules is $175 on a HIGH SIDE |
| 05:57.20 | drmessano | $265 for a TDM410P with 2 FXO modules from Telephony Depot |
| 05:57.27 | drmessano | $700? |
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| 06:03.51 | Jabess | what is much better... pri or T1 ? |
| 06:05.02 | drmessano | ISDN is better |
| 06:06.56 | Defraz | What is the cli command for killing a sip channel |
| 06:07.13 | Defraz | I do a show channels and I see my echo test still running. |
| 06:07.26 | Defraz | weird |
| 06:07.41 | Defraz | SIP/9001-b7c8b408 |
| 06:07.48 | echinos | does digium still have that starter kit available? |
| 06:09.30 | drmessano | which? |
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| 06:11.22 | echinos | I haven't heard about it in a while, they used to have a tdm card with a module or two for a deal |
| 06:11.32 | echinos | I forget what they called it |
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| 06:15.53 | drmessano | TDM11B is pretty cheap |
| 06:16.08 | Gokee2 | drmessano, Where are those? I can`t seem to find them on the site |
| 06:17.11 | drmessano | You cant find a TDM410P? |
| 06:19.53 | Gokee2 | drmessano, There is a TDM410 don`t see a TDM410P ( I am looking at http://store.digium.com/products.php?category_id=45) |
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| 06:22.05 | drmessano | http://www.telephonydepot.com |
| 06:23.20 | Gokee2 | Hmm |
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| 06:39.03 | Gokee2 | So if you add extra modules to the TDM410P do the ports go on a expansion card? The 4 ports seem to fill up the card |
| 06:40.27 | drmessano | Yeah, it does |
| 06:40.32 | drmessano | 4 ports = done |
| 06:40.38 | drmessano | Thats why its a 4 port card |
| 06:41.01 | Gokee2 | That looks like a nice card :) |
| 06:44.25 | Gokee2 | So with that I can plug any old phone into the FXS port? |
| 06:45.07 | drmessano | You CAN, but FXS is a waste |
| 06:45.17 | drmessano | Either use IP phones, or get some ATAs |
| 06:46.11 | Gokee2 | Hmm, why do IP phones need a special card? They can`t just connect to the network? |
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| 06:49.36 | implicit | is there any way to not save voicemails and only email them? |
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| 06:58.50 | drmessano | Gokee2: IP phones DO connect to the network |
| 06:58.53 | drmessano | Where do you see otherwise? |
| 06:59.21 | Gokee2 | drmessano, Why do you need a special "FXS" port for them then? |
| 06:59.37 | drmessano | You need an FXS port for POTS phones |
| 06:59.42 | drmessano | Not IP phones |
| 06:59.49 | drmessano | ~book |
| 06:59.50 | jbot | hmm... book is probably Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF at http://www.asteriskdocs.org --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com or see ~buybook |
| 06:59.57 | drmessano | Do some reading |
| 07:00.07 | Gokee2 | Hmmm |
| 07:00.12 | Gokee2 | I got to page 6 |
| 07:00.49 | Gokee2 | Hmm I did not see the html version though I could go look at that |
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| 07:46.50 | yang | I am trying to format GotoIfTime - http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+cmd+GotoIfTime | exten => _5863160,n,GotoIfTime(*|"sat"-"sun"|"mon"|"thu"-"fri"|*|*?frontdesk,closed,1) |
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| 07:55.11 | Hanif08 | does asterisk know how to translate a digit? |
| 07:55.33 | Hanif08 | for instance if i dial 89, it will translated to 19001 |
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| 07:55.57 | Hanif08 | in cisco we called translation-rule |
| 07:56.47 | C4colo | after all that TK's code doesn't work anyway |
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| 08:08.52 | drmessano | C4colo: YOU SUCK ZOMG LOSER READ ^^^^ARROWS^^^^^ |
| 08:11.15 | C4colo | Hanif08: maybe |
| 08:11.20 | C4colo | depends on where you want to use it |
| 08:11.45 | C4colo | exten => 89,1,Goto(19001,1) |
| 08:12.27 | C4colo | or exten => _89XXXXXXXXXX,1,Goto(${EXTEN:2}) |
| 08:13.08 | C4colo | or exten => _89.,1,Goto(19001${EXTEN:2}) |
| 08:16.37 | xnixan | hi, when i try to issue command like "zap show channels" in asterisks CLI it appears not available, however my x101p clone is configured correctly and running very well under trixbox 2.6, any ideas? |
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| 08:29.00 | yang | xnixan: do you have the module zaptel loaded? |
| 08:30.27 | xnixan | yang, yup, and tested with zttool |
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| 08:38.48 | tzafrir_laptop | xnixan, what is the output of: cat /proc/zaptel/* |
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| 08:46.26 | xnixan | tzafrir_laptop, cat /proc/zaptel/1 => |
| 08:46.26 | xnixan | Span 1: WCFXO/0 "Generic Clone Board 1" (MASTER) |
| 08:46.26 | xnixan | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:00.23 | Karlitoo | good morning |
| 09:00.34 | Karlitoo | all |
| 09:05.18 | Hanif08 | thanks C4colo |
| 09:05.36 | C4colo | was that what you were asking? |
| 09:06.21 | Hanif08 | i'll try it 1st... and see if it work or not |
| 09:06.50 | Hanif08 | appreciate ur view and ideas |
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| 09:08.28 | tzafrir_laptop | xnixan, sorry for the delay . It seems you have a proper zaptel.conf and ran ztcfg, but aparantly you didn't configure the channel in /etc/asterisk/zapata.conf |
| 09:08.36 | tzafrir_laptop | What version of asterisk do you use? |
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| 09:57.02 | KOCATEPE | hi all |
| 09:57.25 | KOCATEPE | version 1.4.18.1 |
| 09:58.05 | KOCATEPE | made modification in dsp.c for progress detect |
| 09:58.45 | KOCATEPE | prog_mode_cr |
| 09:59.00 | KOCATEPE | gsamp_size_uk |
| 09:59.05 | KOCATEPE | and 500 Hz |
| 09:59.08 | KOCATEPE | now |
| 09:59.19 | KOCATEPE | -- Zap/4-1 is ringing |
| 09:59.37 | KOCATEPE | but even the line is busy |
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| 09:59.45 | KOCATEPE | i gety this message |
| 10:00.14 | casix | hello |
| 10:00.20 | KOCATEPE | how can i detect busy |
| 10:01.02 | KOCATEPE | tried those modifications http://www.asteriskguru.com/archives/svn-commits-qwell-trunk-r98998-in-trunk-buildtool-vt118134.html |
| 10:01.07 | KOCATEPE | but doesnt work |
| 10:03.22 | KOCATEPE | anyone faced with that problem before ??? |
| 10:06.58 | KOCATEPE | i need ur kind attention pls |
| 10:12.28 | yang | KOCATEPE: any chance that you could upgrade asterisk ? |
| 10:12.52 | yang | KOCATEPE: maybe its fixed in newer release |
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| 10:13.33 | KOCATEPE | let me download 1.6 |
| 10:13.38 | KOCATEPE | and examine dsp.c |
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| 10:50.08 | Rzm98 | Hi |
| 10:50.35 | Rzm98 | I'm trying to receive faxes with asterisk, it works fine when using a standard resolution fax as a sender |
| 10:50.49 | Rzm98 | but it fails if I use high resolution (so called photo mode) on my fax machine. |
| 10:50.58 | Rzm98 | [Dec 31 11:36:17] WARNING[29787]: app_fax.c:173 phase_e_handler: Error transmitting fax. result=49: The call dropped prematurely. |
| 10:50.58 | Rzm98 | [Dec 31 11:36:17] WARNING[29787]: app_fax.c:618 transmit: Transmission error |
| 10:51.36 | Rzm98 | I'm using asterisk 1.6.0.3-rc1 with spandsp 0.0.5 |
| 10:51.44 | Rzm98 | and ReceiveFax application |
| 10:52.11 | Rzm98 | are resolution higher than standard res not supported or is something amiss with my config ? |
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| 11:52.34 | slight | can anyone point me toward info on managing echo in a setup where i don't control the POTS to voip gateway? (asterisk<--iax2-->voiptalk<-->pots) |
| 11:53.27 | slight | specifically coping with softphones with no echo cancellation (for PDAs) |
| 11:54.21 | slight | if it's possible at all of course |
| 11:59.21 | buzukelis | how to set up additinal fealds in the mysql cdr table, like we can do that in the ../custom_cdr/Master.csv? |
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| 12:32.01 | buzukelis | hapy nju jer ol !!! :) |
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| 12:38.04 | carranca | hi, im installing asterisk from source in an ubuntu server 8.10, is there a way to get the init scripts? |
| 12:38.44 | casix | yes it is in the source code |
| 12:38.48 | casix | in contrib/init |
| 12:38.49 | casix | maybe? |
| 12:39.28 | carranca | rc.debian.asterisk :)? |
| 12:39.41 | casix | yes |
| 12:39.49 | casix | I think it must work in ubuntu |
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| 12:45.57 | carranca | mhmhm, i dont see the same for dahdi :S |
| 12:48.42 | carranca | lol, dunno how but was already in /etc/init.d :P |
| 12:54.06 | ccesario | somebody have any idea about this ? http://pastebin.com/m2dbd27c2 |
| 12:58.32 | feeds | ccesario: The log looks clear ... you asking about why stopping moh? |
| 12:59.15 | ccesario | feeds, no no when I start type digits the transfer end :/ |
| 12:59.36 | feeds | transfer? |
| 13:00.37 | ccesario | yes ...atxfer |
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| 13:09.55 | tzafrir_laptop | carranca, use the init.d from the package |
| 13:11.00 | tzafrir_laptop | http://svn.debian.org/viewsvn/*checkout*/pkg-voip/asterisk/trunk/debian/asterisk.init |
| 13:11.39 | tzafrir_laptop | As for dahdi: let me know if the one included in the source tarball doesn't work |
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| 13:23.31 | WilliamK | hey tzafrir - did you get a new laptop yet? |
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| 13:25.30 | tzafrir_laptop | WilliamK, not really. I've had this one for over a year, I think... |
| 13:26.34 | WilliamK | I was just thinking about you wearing out all the letters on the keys from coding |
| 13:26.47 | WilliamK | not that you need letters.. |
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| 13:27.12 | dacs | howdy |
| 13:28.21 | dacs | what replaced FWD? |
| 13:28.49 | dacs | or i should ask what shall i use in replacement of FWD |
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| 13:34.53 | TrentCreek | dacs: FWD went to a pay service |
| 13:35.06 | TrentCreek | it's very cheap |
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| 13:35.10 | dacs | yeah |
| 13:35.36 | dacs | i know i am going to end up buying but for testing what shall i use |
| 13:35.58 | TrentCreek | you can use any typeof VOIP device you want |
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| 13:39.31 | [TK]D-Fender | FWD is a waste, better off with Ekiga.net now |
| 13:40.39 | [TK]D-Fender | All they were was a peering service and they haven't added any value for the fact they're charging, so Ekiga it is. That is if you even care about using a locator service like that |
| 13:51.39 | dacs | locator service? |
| 13:52.53 | dacs | sip:xxx@ekiga.net ...if i want someone want to call me form a regular phone and they don't know about voip i need to give them a number |
| 13:52.59 | dacs | how can i tie that to a number |
| 13:55.20 | [TK]D-Fender | dacs: You showed a URI. You can't diaal that from a normal phone, you'd need an ITSP |
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| 14:05.30 | Rzm98 | does anybody knows what that debug message means : |
| 14:05.32 | Rzm98 | channel.c:2787 ast_internal_timing_enabled: Internal timing is disabled (option_internal_timing=0 chan->timingfd=57) |
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| 14:13.58 | Katty | i dreamt i quit my job last night. |
| 14:14.06 | Zhadnost | sounds like heaven |
| 14:14.26 | Zhadnost | is having an odd problem migrating to dahdi. |
| 14:14.52 | Zhadnost | found that he needed to change to a newer kernel, blah blah blah. |
| 14:15.08 | [TK]D-Fender | Zhadnost: Shouldn't have to. |
| 14:15.12 | Zhadnost | every looks like it should be good, lsmod shows that dahdi and wctdm are running. |
| 14:15.13 | TrentCreek | Who's your daddy? |
| 14:15.38 | Zhadnost | [TK]> I thought that, got lots of unrecognised symbols. |
| 14:15.58 | eppigy | hello |
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| 14:16.05 | [TK]D-Fender | Zhadnost: What versions of * & DAHDI? |
| 14:16.07 | Zhadnost | now whenever I try to query it (from dadhdi-tools or from the asterisk console) I get Unable to open /dev/dahdi/ctl |
| 14:16.14 | [TK]D-Fender | Zhadnost: And what previous kernel? |
| 14:16.35 | Zhadnost | was using kernel 2.6.17.1 |
| 14:16.53 | Zhadnost | dahdi-tools-2.1.0.2 |
| 14:16.59 | Katty | i also dreamt of other NSFW topics; |
| 14:17.01 | Zhadnost | dahdi-linux-2.1.0.3 |
| 14:17.07 | Zhadnost | asterisk-1.6.0.3-rc1 |
| 14:17.12 | Katty | a birthday present |
| 14:17.22 | Zhadnost | weirder still is that there is still a /dev/zap/* folder. |
| 14:17.41 | [TK]D-Fender | Zhadnost: Perhaps you should go hunt down all of the zaptel remains and trash them. |
| 14:17.44 | Zhadnost | Am now using Linux version 2.6.28 |
| 14:17.51 | [TK]D-Fender | Zhadnost: and manually remove that folder, etc |
| 14:18.04 | [TK]D-Fender | Zhadnost: I use 2.6.18 just fine |
| 14:18.08 | Zhadnost | there can't be much left, zaptel was never compiled for that kernel. |
| 14:18.26 | Zhadnost | for the new kernel (sorry). |
| 14:18.49 | [TK]D-Fender | Zhadnost: do try to scrub your system clean of the other stuff though and don't forget that you'll have to recompile * from scratch as well |
| 14:18.58 | Zhadnost | there are no modules, all that's left is redundant settings in /etc/modprobe.d |
| 14:19.08 | Zhadnost | I did |
| 14:19.13 | [TK]D-Fender | Zhadnost: I always trash the forder and untar again] |
| 14:19.17 | [TK]D-Fender | folder |
| 14:19.32 | Zhadnost | at the same time I'm trying to migrade from * 1.4.21.1 |
| 14:19.54 | [TK]D-Fender | Zhadnost: What does dahdi_cfg -vvvv give you? |
| 14:20.12 | Zhadnost | DAHDI Tools Version - 2.1.0.2 |
| 14:20.12 | Zhadnost | Notice: Configuration file is /etc/dahdi/system.conf |
| 14:20.12 | Zhadnost | line 0: Unable to open master device '/dev/dahdi/ctl' |
| 14:20.12 | Zhadnost | 1 error(s) detected |
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| 14:20.41 | [TK]D-Fender | Zhadnost: "cat /proc/interrupts" |
| 14:20.59 | Zhadnost | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:21.22 | [TK]D-Fender | Zhadnost: Not good that they're sharing, but ti should still do something... look in dmesg, but don't spam it. |
| 14:21.24 | Zhadnost | the last bit of the dahdi-linux install saw the card too. |
| 14:21.56 | Zhadnost | The card is mostly being used for a timing source, but that is a good point (I didn't mean to include usb support for this kernel). |
| 14:22.09 | [TK]D-Fender | Zhadnost: I would definitely roll back to the last full release, and not an RC |
| 14:22.10 | yang | Bloody Grandstream ATA cannot upgrade it |
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| 14:22.20 | Zhadnost | Module 0: Installed -- AUTO FXS/DPO |
| 14:22.20 | Zhadnost | Module 1: Installed -- AUTO FXS/DPO |
| 14:22.20 | Zhadnost | Module 2: Installed -- AUTO FXO (FCC mode) |
| 14:22.20 | Zhadnost | Module 3: Installed -- AUTO FXO (FCC mode) |
| 14:22.20 | Zhadnost | Found a Wildcard TDM: Wildcard TDM400P REV I (4 modules) |
| 14:22.41 | Zhadnost | those dahdi versions are full relases though. |
| 14:22.43 | [TK]D-Fender | ~gs |
| 14:22.44 | jbot | GrandSuck phones & gateways are cheap junk which should be avoided with extreme prejudice. |
| 14:22.46 | [TK]D-Fender | ~grandstream |
| 14:22.47 | jbot | i heard grandstream is the Yugo of VoIP hardware. Run. Run away now. |
| 14:23.26 | Zhadnost | finds them very fully featured but with poor sound quality. (though later models are very stable). |
| 14:23.33 | [TK]D-Fender | Zhadnost: I'm not a kernel / dahdi expert unfortunately and am just about out of ideaas for you. |
| 14:23.42 | [TK]D-Fender | tzafrir_laptop: Anything to chime in on this? |
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| 14:25.37 | tzafrir_laptop | Zhadnost, what do you see in /proc/dahdi/* #? |
| 14:26.00 | Zhadnost | a file called 1 |
| 14:26.05 | Zhadnost | Span 1: WCTDM/4 "Wildcard TDM400P REV I Board 5" (MASTER) |
| 14:26.05 | Zhadnost | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:26.06 | Zhadnost | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:26.06 | Zhadnost | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:26.06 | Zhadnost | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:27.04 | tzafrir_laptop | ok. You have the modules loaded but either you don't have a proper /etc/dahdi/system.conf or you didn't run dahdi_cfg yet |
| 14:27.26 | Zhadnost | I ran dahdi_cfg |
| 14:27.31 | [TK]D-Fender | tzafrir_laptop: He has tried the latter as oou can see above |
| 14:27.46 | tzafrir_laptop | one possible way to generate a system.conf file is to run dahdi_genconf |
| 14:27.58 | Zhadnost | though system.cfg isn't right |
| 14:28.01 | Zhadnost | well spotted. |
| 14:28.48 | [TK]D-Fender | Something I should have looked for... God I'm just wiped today... |
| 14:29.26 | Zhadnost | that only added loadzone = us, defaultzone=us |
| 14:29.44 | Zhadnost | is system.conf the same format as zaptel.conf ? |
| 14:31.14 | Zhadnost | oh and the comments at the top state that I don't have any modules. |
| 14:32.14 | Rzm98 | Anybody comfortable with app_fax and spandsp ? T30 is giving me headaches (working at standard fax resolution but not at higher res) |
| 14:32.16 | Zhadnost | rebooting the machine atm. |
| 14:33.11 | tzafrir_laptop | Zhadnost, basically the same format . Note though that you should expplicitly state the echo canceller for each channel |
| 14:33.35 | tzafrir_laptop | Zhadnost, why reboot? |
| 14:33.56 | tzafrir_laptop | Zhadnost, generally for a simple analog setup dahdi_genconf will create a sane configuration |
| 14:34.14 | Zhadnost | dahdi_genconfig did as stated above |
| 14:36.52 | Zhadnost | rebooted because he doesn't like unloading modules. |
| 14:38.36 | eppigy | dog |
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| 14:39.28 | eppigy | x86: girl i liek your architecture |
| 14:39.38 | Zhadnost | oh, and kernel doesn't have unload support |
| 14:40.33 | Zhadnost | is the /dev/dahdi folder virtual or is if made by dahdi_linux ? |
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| 14:40.51 | Zhadnost | meant to put the word installer in there. |
| 14:41.02 | jjshoe | it's not like /proc if that's what your asking |
| 14:41.30 | Corydon76-dig | In Linux 2.6, all of /dev is virtual |
| 14:43.28 | Zhadnost | what should /dev/dahdi look like? |
| 14:46.12 | Zhadnost | I think I've found which bit didn't run (and probably why). |
| 14:47.38 | tzafrir_laptop | It's not really virtual. Those are real files. But they sit on a ramdisk. And hence any manual modification of yours will be wiped on shutdown |
| 14:48.06 | Zhadnost | but strangely mkdir /dev/dahdi didn't disappear on shutdown |
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| 14:48.59 | Zhadnost | apt-get install udev followed by make install-devices seems to have done some good |
| 14:48.59 | Corydon76-dig | tzafrir_laptop: and may be wiped out if udev feels like it |
| 14:49.31 | Zhadnost | infact even asterisk can see it now |
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| 14:49.41 | tzafrir_laptop | Zhadnost, if your version of udev is not really ancient, then the device files should be created with correct names even without udev rules |
| 14:50.47 | Zhadnost | I got to there from looking at dahdi's makefile where they were set up |
| 14:50.48 | tzafrir_laptop | Zhadnost, also: to unload the dahdi modules, use: /etc/init.d/dahdi stop |
| 14:51.04 | Zhadnost | which I can't do (don't have unload support in kernel). |
| 14:52.49 | Zhadnost | should read a bit more |
| 14:53.05 | Zhadnost | ie. I don't even know if zapata.conf needs replacing/changing. |
| 14:53.22 | [TK]D-Fender | Zhadnost: chan_dahdi.conf replaces it |
| 14:53.36 | [TK]D-Fender | Zhadnost: As you're on * 1.6 Zaptel doesn't really exist anymore |
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| 14:53.56 | Zhadnost | dahdi-channels.conf ? |
| 14:54.37 | Zhadnost | (file that dahdi_genconf created) |
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| 14:54.56 | Zhadnost | which strangely calls itself chan_dahdi.conf in the comment at the top. |
| 14:56.00 | Zhadnost | supposes he needs to s/ZAP/DAHDI/g his extensions.conf too. |
| 14:56.50 | [TK]D-Fender | Zhadnost: I think you'll be just fine in very short order... |
| 14:57.24 | tzafrir_laptop | dahdi-channels.conf is a snippet of chan_dahdi.conf |
| 14:58.08 | Zhadnost | ah, I don't have a chan_dahdi.conf |
| 14:58.14 | Zhadnost | hunts for one |
| 14:59.46 | Zhadnost | has the sample, should I put an include /etc/asterisk/dahdi-channels.conf in it? |
| 15:00.16 | Zhadnost | It looks like zapata.conf with a few extra notes at the end. |
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| 15:01.44 | piper69 | finally home sweet home |
| 15:02.08 | piper69 | [TK]D-Fender: may i suggest something... |
| 15:02.48 | Zhadnost | wonders why it autoconfiged the FXS ports to use loopstart. |
| 15:02.50 | [TK]D-Fender | piper69: Suggestions are free, answers are $4.95/min ;) |
| 15:03.10 | piper69 | [TK]D-Fender: can you add a "Happy New Year 2009 to all 8 users in the topic" |
| 15:03.15 | [TK]D-Fender | Zhadnost: Thats normal |
| 15:03.16 | x86 | [TK]D-Fender: hehe |
| 15:03.36 | piper69 | [TK]D-Fender: and why the .95 cent lol |
| 15:03.49 | [TK]D-Fender | piper69: Marketing |
| 15:04.02 | piper69 | omg |
| 15:04.06 | piper69 | :) |
| 15:04.12 | [TK]D-Fender | piper69: All 8 users? |
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| 15:04.50 | Zhadnost | what about putting 2 context lines in each channel configuration? |
| 15:04.55 | C4colo | thanks for the example code [TK]D-Fender ... I had to move some stuff around a bit to get it to work though |
| 15:04.57 | C4colo | http://pastebin.com/m525578e9 |
| 15:05.29 | piper69 | [TK]D-Fender: if you really charge $4.95 /answer would would drive a BMW just by answering my questions |
| 15:05.30 | C4colo | your code would clear the previous value of 'thevar' each time a device was unavailable |
| 15:05.57 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: exten => 73,1,ChanIsAvail(Local/*40*2000@internal,s) <- this should not work at all given the nature of Local channels |
| 15:06.15 | C4colo | well, it does, beautifully |
| 15:06.26 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: pastebin it in action.... |
| 15:06.37 | C4colo | the calling party and any inuse extensions are excluded from the string |
| 15:06.43 | feeds | hi all | I have a little question about contexts and extens: http://asterisk.pastebin.com/f4ba52146 |
| 15:07.00 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: because a Local channel with chanisavail only verifies its existance |
| 15:07.11 | C4colo | odd |
| 15:07.15 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Thats why you would check the associated device |
| 15:07.18 | C4colo | if that is the case it shouldn't work |
| 15:07.24 | C4colo | I wonder why it does |
| 15:07.47 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Show me |
| 15:07.52 | C4colo | working on it |
| 15:08.14 | piper69 | feeds: the only one here know about it is [TK]D-Fender and he charge $6.99 / answer and you will have to go thru me to get his answer |
| 15:08.19 | piper69 | lol |
| 15:08.21 | C4colo | I'll use an originate command to bridge two extensions, either that or I need to call and see if someone is there to make a test call |
| 15:09.08 | feeds | piper69: ... I've got time :D |
| 15:09.30 | [TK]D-Fender | feeds: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+config+extensions.conf+sorting |
| 15:09.43 | feeds | [TK]D-Fender: thnx |
| 15:11.01 | C4colo | notice line 15~ http://pastebin.com/m52f02fc3 |
| 15:11.09 | feeds | [TK]D-Fender: so those in the current context have a bigger priority if I get it? |
| 15:11.12 | C4colo | 2013 was involved in the call, so it is unavailable |
| 15:11.21 | C4colo | it was not added to the end of the string by the Set command |
| 15:11.27 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: exten => 73,n,ChanIsAvail(console/dsp,s) <- and you really don't need to bother checking for this |
| 15:11.29 | C4colo | the set just set 'thevar'='thevar' |
| 15:11.40 | C4colo | well, if it is in use at the time ... |
| 15:11.59 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: if its in use Page will simply ignore it |
| 15:12.03 | C4colo | it would just fail, but I was thinking of adding a double beep or something to let the user know it didn't go out to the overhead paging |
| 15:12.38 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: sure, why not... |
| 15:12.40 | C4colo | and |
| 15:12.42 | C4colo | actually |
| 15:12.49 | C4colo | yes it is needed to remove the & from the end |
| 15:12.55 | C4colo | well |
| 15:13.04 | C4colo | actually no, if I always put the console/dsp on there it isn't |
| 15:13.11 | C4colo | anyway, I thought both ways and decided to add it |
| 15:14.26 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Now it looks like its adding every device there. |
| 15:14.53 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Where do we see the list of channels in use where it opts out of actually selecting someone? |
| 15:16.39 | Zhadnost | takes it include context|8:00-17:00|mon-fri|*|* is now include context,8:00-17:00,mon-fri,*,* ? |
| 15:17.21 | [TK]D-Fender | Zhadnost: Many changes in 1.6 included "|" no longer being a parameter separater |
| 15:17.40 | [TK]D-Fender | Zhadnost: you would do well to read all the docs in your tarball |
| 15:17.44 | Zhadnost | I noticed that at home |
| 15:18.04 | Zhadnost | I just hadn't done it here yet (and didn't have timed includes). |
| 15:18.19 | Zhadnost | dahdi now working again now :-) |
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| 15:18.59 | C4colo | right now there are no calls, so 2013 is the only one that is ignored |
| 15:20.37 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: yes but your test is from an Originate. Now try it from an actual device |
| 15:21.31 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: -- Executing [73@default:21] ChanIsAvail("Local/*40*2013@internal-b525,1", "Local/*40*2012@internal|s") in new stack <-- see your testing method is calling a local channel which will not be the same as when a SIP channel calls it |
| 15:21.52 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Also... you have no calls in progress so you can't see if your chanisavails are actually doing anything |
| 15:22.02 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: This is not a good test |
| 15:23.10 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: -- Executing [73@default:23] ChanIsAvail("Local/*40*2013@internal-b525,1", "Local/*40*2013@internal|s") in new stack <- this works because you Originated a local channel taht is a 100% match and is in progress. Not really meaningful though |
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| 15:32.17 | rwaite | for iax is caller id specified on my itsp's end? |
| 15:34.19 | [TK]D-Fender | rwaite: can you try rephrasing that... |
| 15:35.04 | rwaite | when i'm making an outgoing call through my iax provider, do i set the caller id for that outgoing call (what the callee will see) locally or do they do it on their end (my svc provider) |
| 15:35.57 | Zhadnost | both |
| 15:36.20 | Zhadnost | it depends on your ITSP. |
| 15:36.23 | C4colo | I'll have to call and see if I can get someone to make a test call, on phone right now will try in a few |
| 15:36.33 | rwaite | hmm. i'll call them. |
| 15:36.39 | [TK]D-Fender | rwaite: Depends on your provider as to if you are permitted to set it |
| 15:36.41 | Zhadnost | usually you have a range of numbers you are allowed to identify as. |
| 15:37.06 | rwaite | i'm more interested in the text that is displayed |
| 15:38.23 | jaytee | oh, just kill me now! |
| 15:38.31 | feeds | jaytee: ok |
| 15:38.41 | jaytee | feeds, thank you :-) |
| 15:38.50 | eppigy | KILL EVERYTHING |
| 15:38.57 | jaytee | chill dave! |
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| 15:39.13 | feeds | takes a kitchen knife and comes up to jaytee silently from behind |
| 15:39.39 | rwaite | thats why i love CoD WaW, knifing people is awesome |
| 15:39.54 | x86 | wtf CoD WaW? |
| 15:40.11 | x86 | games are stupid and are a complete waste of time |
| 15:41.13 | rwaite | whoa dude. pharma out of prozac this week? |
| 15:41.13 | eppigy | ur face is |
| 15:42.03 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: This should not work at all under any sane scenario |
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| 15:47.59 | rwaite | and you know what is a complete waste of time? the x86 architecture. what a steaming pile that is. |
| 15:48.22 | [TK]D-Fender | rwaite: What are you using now? |
| 15:48.29 | rwaite | x86 |
| 15:48.46 | rwaite | and don't get me started on x86-64 |
| 15:48.58 | [TK]D-Fender | rwaite: Apparently its enough to waste your time on.... |
| 15:49.03 | Zhadnost | what's wrong with x86-64 ? |
| 15:49.14 | [TK]D-Fender | Zhadnost: No!!! Don't get him started! |
| 15:49.22 | Zhadnost | oops |
| 15:49.33 | eppigy | POOR PACKAGE SUPPORT BY UBUNTU |
| 15:49.57 | Zhadnost | ah, my x86-64 machine is using debian. |
| 15:50.16 | rwaite | lol [TK]D-Fender |
| 15:50.38 | rwaite | the whole mess is just so impure. granted, it works. but so does windows. |
| 15:51.10 | rwaite | if only i were god, i could come down to earth and set forth some computing commandments |
| 15:51.36 | thedonvaughn | x86-64 works great here... all though I don't mess with ubuntu. |
| 15:51.37 | Zhadnost | so linux is fine on x86, ARM and MIPS but not x86-64? |
| 15:51.38 | thedonvaughn | shrugs |
| 15:51.44 | thedonvaughn | Zhadnost: no it's fine on x86-64 |
| 15:51.55 | Zhadnost | It's fine on my x86-64 box too. |
| 15:52.08 | eppigy | ARCH IS THE ONLY WAY |
| 15:52.23 | [TK]D-Fender | Except for all the others.... |
| 15:52.26 | eppigy | CAST OFF YOUR 16 BASE NUMBER SYSTEMS |
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| 15:54.02 | *** topic/#asterisk is Asterisk: The Open Source PBX and Telephony Platform (asterisk.org) -=- Asterisk 1.6.0.2 (2008/12/02), 1.4.22 (2008/10/02), *-Addons 1.6.0.1 (2008/12/02), 1.4.7 (2008/06/04), dahdi-linux 2.1.0, dahdi-tools 2.1.0 (2008/12/09), Libpri 1.4.7 (2008/08/05) -=- Related channels: #asterisknow #asterisk-gui #switchvox #freepbx #asterisk-commits #asterisk-bugs #asterisk-dev |
| 15:54.09 | rwaite | evil god believers and their ignorance. days have 4 corners! |
| 15:54.57 | eppigy | EARTH HAS 4 CORNER |
| 15:55.02 | eppigy | SIMULTANEOUS 4-DAY |
| 15:55.12 | thedonvaughn | dude, enough with the caps |
| 15:55.17 | eppigy | You would be wiser if unschooled then be taught ONEness stupidity to worship Evil of ONEism |
| 15:55.33 | rwaite | thedonvaughn: are you a god believer? |
| 15:55.42 | eppigy | thedonvaughn: oh god i am sorry am i hurting your ears? |
| 15:55.50 | C4colo | you are right [TK]D-Fender, not sure why an originate command works properly but a sip call doesn't, fixing it now that I did a test |
| 15:56.06 | thedonvaughn | a) uhm no, don't believe in talking snakes or a god b) off-topic and stop trolling |
| 15:56.10 | thedonvaughn | ignores |
| 15:56.33 | eppigy | thank god |
| 15:56.35 | rwaite | whoa. please stop discriminating based on beliefs |
| 15:56.54 | eppigy | thedonvaughn clearly supports ethnic cleansing |
| 15:57.48 | eppigy | not that i wouldnt eat babies had they been seasoned correctly |
| 15:58.03 | Zhadnost | checks the channel name |
| 15:58.18 | Zhadnost | Yup thought so, this is #talk-bollocks |
| 15:58.27 | rwaite | hah |
| 15:59.44 | eppigy | true |
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| 16:03.09 | Zhadnost | coo dahdi nearly working, cdr_pgsql not. |
| 16:08.05 | rwaite | <3 cdr_pgsql |
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| 16:21.49 | Zhadnost | cdr_pgsql appears to need a table=cdr line in it now |
| 16:21.53 | Zhadnost | thassall |
| 16:24.38 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Its not working because when your SIP device places a call its a SIP channel. You are attempting to test local channels. This is quite wrong |
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| 16:25.06 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Just about the only reason to test a local channel is as validation before a blind Goto or some such... |
| 16:26.31 | Zhadnost | coo AGI doesn't mind using | to separate options still. |
| 16:26.36 | Zhadnost | that should save some time. |
| 16:26.50 | rwaite | i thought | was the "right" way to do it? |
| 16:27.06 | [TK]D-Fender | rwaite: No, it was always the "other way" and is no more in 1.6 |
| 16:27.24 | C4colo | that doesn't explain why 'originate SIP/2003 extension 73@internal' seems to work 100% to my expectations |
| 16:27.25 | rwaite | good cuz i never used |, always , |
| 16:27.31 | C4colo | while calling from sip doesn't |
| 16:27.38 | [TK]D-Fender | rwaite: just line using () for apps or not. I'm still wating for them for force consistency |
| 16:27.40 | C4colo | how would those be different? I'm dialing a sip trunk |
| 16:27.41 | Zhadnost | what's the betting that in 1.8 extensions.conf will be renamed to dialplan.conf ? |
| 16:27.53 | C4colo | anyway, doesn't matter, I'll fix it without your beratement just fine |
| 16:28.15 | rwaite | lol |
| 16:28.16 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: You aren't paying attention to the channels in question. |
| 16:28.19 | Zhadnost | AGI(aginame) rather than AGI,aginame now too. |
| 16:28.43 | rwaite | is 1.6 pretty stable? |
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| 16:29.09 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: And there has been no beratement here for this |
| 16:29.16 | Zhadnost | I'm using an old 1.6 beta at home, that's been solid as a rock (don't use many of the features though). |
| 16:29.22 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: I simply stated that you won't get the right results with it |
| 16:29.59 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: And that using Originate for your test generates a local channel and then bridges them. But when a SIP device goes and jsut makes a call there is no local channel involved |
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| 16:31.14 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Originate starts 2 channels. a SIP device placing a call is 1 channel. That is why |
| 16:31.18 | C4colo | that makes sense |
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| 16:32.04 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: And by doing it from a straight SIP device you'll then see that the attempt to ChanIsAvail all of those local channels is a dead-end as well. |
| 16:32.26 | C4colo | yep, they were all "available" |
| 16:32.40 | C4colo | I rewrote it using sip and SipAddHeader to add the auto-answer header |
| 16:32.42 | C4colo | it's working |
| 16:33.01 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: And I have explained jsut about the only value to had in doing something like you were doing, and it does not include your goal. |
| 16:33.34 | C4colo | not sure I understand exactly what you are saying there |
| 16:34.22 | [TK]D-Fender | [11:25]<[TK]D-Fender>C4colo: Just about the only reason to test a local channel is as validation before a blind Goto or some such... |
| 16:35.02 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: All it does is see if an extension has a match in the dialplan or happens to have a channel directly started against it. |
| 16:35.26 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Which isn't the case with just about any normal call from something like a SIP device |
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| 16:41.42 | C4colo | I see |
| 16:41.49 | C4colo | I didn't know that's what you were referring to |
| 16:41.58 | C4colo | unlike you, I actually got that the first time you said it |
| 16:42.22 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: No, I got it the first time I said it :) |
| 16:42.24 | C4colo | especially when what you said was shown to be true by my tests |
| 16:42.28 | C4colo | heh |
| 16:42.37 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: And your test was poor as I told you |
| 16:42.44 | C4colo | how was my test poor? |
| 16:42.52 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Polluted tests give polluted results |
| 16:44.08 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: You originated a local channel and gave yourself a false impression because the only channel in progress WAS one of the targets. |
| 16:44.18 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: And had nothing else to compare |
| 16:45.18 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: So from your POV it would be "See, look it skipped itself, it must work", but when you tried in the real world would do nothing at all. |
| 16:47.26 | C4colo | nobody was on site |
| 16:47.30 | C4colo | I had no other way to test |
| 16:47.35 | C4colo | I prefer "real-world" tests |
| 16:47.41 | C4colo | but in this case I had no other option |
| 16:48.06 | C4colo | in any case, you were right |
| 16:48.10 | C4colo | I have work to do |
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| 17:03.52 | drmessano | Journalists piss me off |
| 17:04.16 | drmessano | The algorithm used by DECT is hardwired into devices and not publicly disclosed. However, the boffins found that DECT-based communications between a transmitting station and the hand-held device often featured no form of encryption or authentication. And even when cryptographic defences are put into play they might be defeated by diverting data to an Asterix (Linux-based software PBX), where crypto isn't supported so that conversations |
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| 17:11.28 | Corydon76-dig | They could also divert it to the public PSTN, where encryption isn't supported, either |
| 17:12.16 | tzafrir_laptop | drmessano, did you read their presentation PDF? interesting |
| 17:14.34 | tzafrir_laptop | their == od dedected.org , not of El Rag, of course |
| 17:17.50 | drmessano | Corydon76-dig: I have a nice comment I am carving out to post |
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| 17:22.07 | carrar | http://i43.tinypic.com/27xezpi.jpg |
| 17:22.09 | carrar | haha |
| 17:22.36 | carrar | Illinois Furniture Store |
| 17:25.18 | coppice | DECT is a 20 year old design, intended to replace analogue cordless phones which had zero security. it wasn't designed to be great. it was designed to be cheap with 20 year old parts. defeating it now is no great achevement |
| 17:26.08 | jjshoe | carrar I enjoyed that soooo much |
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| 17:31.24 | BBHoss | drmessano: where is that quoted from? |
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| 17:41.04 | feeds | How do I check if I have ztdummy installed? |
| 17:41.30 | Zhadnost | lsmod |
| 17:41.42 | Zhadnost | lsmod | grep ztdummy |
| 17:42.02 | feeds | lsmod: command not found.. |
| 17:42.21 | Zhadnost | which distrib. are you using? |
| 17:42.35 | feeds | fedora |
| 17:42.38 | feeds | 9 |
| 17:42.48 | Zhadnost | you need a package called modutils (iirc). |
| 17:43.05 | feeds | thnx |
| 17:44.04 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: On that same front on a review of the new SPA-525G... |
| 17:44.07 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: "First off, the SPA-525G supports both SIP and Cisco’s proprietary SPCP protocol, used in the popular UC500. The phone makes use of CDP (Cisco Discovery Protocol) to determine if it is on a UC500 network or a SIP network. We have had an SPA525G in our lab for a few days, and have done some testing on the Linksys SPA9000, Trixbox and Digium’s Switchvox, all SIP based IP PBXs." |
| 17:44.37 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: Both are F-ing Asterisk and try to sell the idea of as being "different" |
| 17:44.52 | xnixan | hi, i have x101p clone installed and giving me pretty good out put from all zt*, however the "zap show ..." is not available vi asterisk CLI, even when i try to tap "zap" out it is not available, any idea, what the problem may be? |
| 17:46.08 | [TK]D-Fender | xnixan: what does "try to tap "zap" out it is not available" mean? |
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| 17:46.46 | BBHoss | xnixan: sounds like zap support isnt compiled into your asterisk |
| 17:47.07 | BBHoss | i'll let [TK]D-Fender bash you about the x101 card :} |
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| 17:47.16 | [TK]D-Fender | xninIndeed if you installed Zaptel after * you need to completely rebuild * |
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| 17:47.36 | [TK]D-Fender | BBHoss: No, I'll let him bash himself if it turns sour :) |
| 17:47.51 | BBHoss | oh so thats how you roll now |
| 17:48.03 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: Or the 4th brilliant comment : http://blog.voipsupply.com/new-products/first-look-cisco-spa-525g-desktop-ip-phone-with-wifi-bluetooth-and-more |
| 17:48.19 | [TK]D-Fender | BBHoss: Its already too late... |
| 17:48.52 | BBHoss | oh and in case anyone was wondering, the aastra mbu-400 dect solution is the same hardware and software as the snom m3 |
| 17:49.27 | _ShrikE | that is disapointing |
| 17:49.48 | drmessano | HAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAH |
| 17:49.51 | drmessano | What a rip off for $400, when I can just go for a grandstream GXP 1200 for $74. Now you know where Cisco’s gross margins come from… |
| 17:49.56 | BBHoss | yeah i was hoping for a new product, as the polycom is the same thing too |
| 17:50.24 | BBHoss | now their more expensive dect solution is good, but the m3+clones suck IMO |
| 17:50.28 | BBHoss | at least the software does |
| 17:51.03 | drmessano | I DONT get the whole DECT IP phone deal |
| 17:51.28 | drmessano | ATA + POTS DECT is very little difference, except the $200 I save |
| 17:51.41 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: Yeah, a rip-off... Ferrari's suck, I can just get a Lada... |
| 17:52.04 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: The guy's a twit who thinks the products were built for the same needs |
| 17:53.07 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: What kind of person would buy that phone if not for those exact features? |
| 17:54.09 | drmessano | [TK]D-Fender: Same bullshit. "GOD THAT BULLDOZER IS SO EXPENSIVE AND IT WOULD TAKE AN HOUR FOR ME TO GET TO WORK AT ITS TOP SPEED OF 4km/h. DO NOT BUY" |
| 17:54.21 | drmessano | In a fucking construction forum |
| 17:54.27 | drmessano | People are STUPID |
| 17:54.42 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: SIP+DECT direct does cut back on latency and allows digital signalling for PBX functionality, but is by no means necessary. However There are many SIP+DECT solutions that act like AP's so you create large roaming support areas which is a big advantage for many |
| 17:55.04 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: Yes... yes they arer |
| 17:55.18 | dlewis | I wonder what cisco will bring out at CES... |
| 17:55.26 | drmessano | But really |
| 17:55.44 | drmessano | Who the fuck trolls a product with features they dont need by bitching about the features |
| 17:55.46 | coppice | dlewis: overpriced stuff |
| 17:56.22 | dlewis | coppice: i don't doubt it... |
| 17:56.33 | dlewis | coppice: how goes it in HK? |
| 17:56.37 | drmessano | "Why does the Polycom BluePhone IP-599 even have Bluetooth? Who the hell uses Bluetooth? $350? WTF?" |
| 17:56.48 | drmessano | When its MADE for Bluetooth and a specific niche |
| 17:57.02 | jjshoe | "Recording automatically stopped after a silence of 10 seconds" Is there a way to dig into this audio loss further? In this case for example, it gets cut off, they press to re-record it, and have no issues the second time around. |
| 17:57.08 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: "I don't need any of that, its a rip-off!" Yup... and you can see who it is he praises. |
| 17:57.31 | coppice | dlewis: fine |
| 17:57.42 | [TK]D-Fender | jjshoe: "it"? Could you please tell us what it is you are "recording" exactly... |
| 17:57.43 | dlewis | coppice: lived out there for work last year... |
| 17:57.59 | [TK]D-Fender | jjshoe: And taht doesn't seem to be a "loss", it decided to stop. |
| 17:58.03 | jjshoe | [TK]D-Fender that's an error from the voicemail system. |
| 17:58.04 | drmessano | [TK]D-Fender: I got one for ya |
| 17:58.21 | [TK]D-Fender | jjshoe: Unless there is a loss that caused that message |
| 17:58.22 | dlewis | coppice: I lived in the Conrad. |
| 17:59.13 | drmessano | "Hello, I started using the HTTPd in Asterix for my website. It is slow, doesn't support ASP, PHP, or even SECURITY FEATURES IMPLEMENTED 10 YEARS AGO. Who the hell would host their website on this crap? It's slow, and do I even need all the telephony bloat crap?" |
| 17:59.33 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: Comedy Gold :) |
| 17:59.57 | stintel | rofl |
| 18:00.35 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: IMO Digium should have jsut set up enough simple stuff and left it to Apache |
| 18:00.44 | drmessano | "Why do I even need a Nortel PBX? I have Vonage at home and its MUCH CHEAPER" |
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| 18:01.13 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: Cool, now comparing a product to a service :) |
| 18:02.15 | drmessano | Ah yeah.. that sounds too much like "Asterisk sucks, Skype works just fine for me..." |
| 18:03.28 | dlewis | lol |
| 18:04.39 | drmessano | I would love to see a cheap Bluetooth adapter with a 4P4C plug on the end |
| 18:04.51 | drmessano | _cheap_ |
| 18:05.02 | drmessano | Power is still an issue too |
| 18:05.31 | drmessano | Even a 2.5mm cheapie would be nice too |
| 18:06.12 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: To turn a regular phone into a BT phone? |
| 18:06.35 | drmessano | Well, I take that back |
| 18:06.37 | drmessano | http://www.amazon.com/Jabra-A210-Bluetooth-Adapter-Universal/dp/B0006HES2I |
| 18:06.42 | drmessano | I didnt know Jabra had this |
| 18:08.02 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: the 3 pin one allows you to answer off the headset, doesn't it? |
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| 18:13.34 | drmessano | I dont know what is needed to support it. I have an earbud with a 3 pin on it that doesnt answer my SPA941, but does answer a cordless |
| 18:13.55 | drmessano | I would imagine theres a tip/ring or tip/sleeve short involved |
| 18:14.01 | drmessano | and the phone supporting it |
| 18:14.02 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: I'd say thats a lock of unctionality of the phone... |
| 18:14.09 | [TK]D-Fender | lack |
| 18:14.11 | [TK]D-Fender | asjdhasjldg |
| 18:14.14 | drmessano | yeah |
| 18:14.23 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: drmessano So close to perfect |
| 18:14.41 | [TK]D-Fender | gah.... I'm fraying again... |
| 18:15.24 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: because if you can't answer the phone via the BT its hardly worth it |
| 18:15.51 | drmessano | Indeed |
| 18:16.24 | drmessano | Well.. |
| 18:16.26 | drmessano | For $30 |
| 18:16.33 | drmessano | Thats less than a wired headset |
| 18:16.40 | drmessano | of higher quality |
| 18:16.45 | drmessano | Which most often do not have buttons |
| 18:16.52 | drmessano | So I guess it depends on need |
| 18:17.13 | drmessano | Having the bluetooth answer would be a bonus, but I dont think a dealbreaker |
| 18:17.20 | drmessano | Lack of wire makes up for some of it |
| 18:17.54 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: Could very well be |
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| 18:18.56 | drmessano | Oh good god |
| 18:19.04 | drmessano | Update: June 25th, 2005: By the way, I lost one A210 and recently purchased one more. I tried one more test on it recently. I got a adapter from radio shack (Part # 274-397) which accepts 3/32" submini stereo plug ( as is the plug of the A210) and fits a 1/8" mini stereo jack (as is the plug for all standard head phone jacks). Thus I connected the A210 to the adapter and connected to my new Creative MuVo MP3 player. Then put on my BT250 |
| 18:19.04 | drmessano | BUT the music quality was poor... this blue tooth unit probably has enough sampling rate for speech, it is not able to handle the sudden and faster changes in amplitude, phase and frequency of a music signal. |
| 18:19.17 | drmessano | ITS MADE FOR A PHONE |
| 18:19.21 | drmessano | FAIL |
| 18:20.29 | drmessano | "This ADT alarm system was fine until someone fired a shoulder launched missile at my house. The smoke alarm never went off due to the panel being destroyed by the explosion, and we nearly didnt get out of the house alive. Would not buy from ADT again!" |
| 18:20.49 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: "I tried my Fisher Price karaoke mic at the recording studio and it sounded like shit, WHY?!?! HAELP PLAESE!!!!!!!!! :$" |
| 18:22.02 | drmessano | "HOT COFFEE. DO NOT SPILL IN LAP WHILE DRIVING A FORD SUV" |
| 18:22.25 | xnixan | [TK]D-Fender, BBHoss thanks! :) |
| 18:26.50 | [TK]D-Fender | xnixan: You're welcome |
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| 18:35.39 | stencil | Hello guys, sorry for the silly question...does anyone here use pjsua SIP software phone? Have you figured out how to make an audible ringing sound to inform of incoming VOIP call? |
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| 18:46.22 | NovceGuru | drmessano: Help can you me asterix in pm? Trixbox wont allow access to webui so program I can asterix |
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| 18:47.34 | mmlj4 | dwha? |
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| 19:29.26 | jjshoe | when someone is leaving a voicemail, they get off, and I get "Recording automatically stopped after a silence of 10 seconds" Is there a way to dig into this audio loss further? In this case for example, it gets cut off, they press to re-record it, and have no issues the second time around. I'm not sure if there is a way to narrow down like for example, the level of audio it's detecting at that time? |
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| 19:35.33 | [TK]D-Fender | jjshoe: Show us the call |
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| 19:41.16 | jjshoe | http://pastebin.com/m538ee239 |
| 19:42.47 | [TK]D-Fender | jjshoe: Please show again from the very beginning of the call |
| 19:42.49 | unpaidbill | t38 seems a lot more reliable in 1.6.1 beta4 |
| 19:43.10 | unpaidbill | before i had a lot of issues with t38 invites being ignored, as well as reinvites being ignored... now it seems that it negotiates it properly every time |
| 19:43.18 | unpaidbill | fantastic. |
| 19:48.15 | jjshoe | [TK]D-Fender perhaps you can tell me what you're looking for specifically so I can learn? |
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| 19:48.35 | [TK]D-Fender | jjshoe: I want to see any irregularities at the start |
| 19:49.24 | jjshoe | [TK]D-Fender that call takes the same exact call flow as other calls that can leave voicemail without issue, in fact, that call flow shows the same person re-recording a message without issue. |
| 19:49.55 | jjshoe | which brings me back to the origional question, is it possible to print out more useful information, such as the silence detection counter, etc. |
| 19:50.15 | [TK]D-Fender | jjshoe: This description does not contribute anything new to our debuggin of your problem... |
| 19:50.34 | jjshoe | I'm not asking you to debug my problem. |
| 19:50.35 | [TK]D-Fender | jjshoe: So please provide what I have requested. |
| 19:50.41 | ricko73 | [TK]D-Fender: I'm partially convinced that you're sadistic |
| 19:50.51 | [TK]D-Fender | ricko73: I must be... |
| 19:50.54 | jjshoe | [TK]D-Fender you should just add an ignore rule for me :) |
| 19:51.44 | [TK]D-Fender | jjshoe: and that isn't a call flow... in fact I don't even see a dialplan app called while the channel is still live. |
| 19:52.00 | [TK]D-Fender | jjshoe: So I guess you're really not looking for answers. Best of luck to you |
| 19:52.12 | jjshoe | [TK]D-Fender you should just add an ignore rule for me :) |
| 19:52.13 | [TK]D-Fender | moves on to more productive things |
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| 19:53.08 | jjshoe | Qwell ping |
| 19:53.22 | Qwell | jjshoe: ? |
| 19:53.26 | jjshoe | Qwell can you force specific apps to print out more debugging information? |
| 19:53.46 | jjshoe | Qwell for example, I want to monitor the silence detection timer for app_voicemail, am I stuck re-compiling app_voicemail and putting in my own debugging? |
| 19:54.09 | Qwell | if it doesn't already print it, yeah |
| 19:54.26 | jjshoe | Qwell cool, thanks. |
| 19:55.09 | jjshoe | I need to build a version that lists out the counter and the sound levels it's currently detecting |
| 19:55.33 | [TK]D-Fender | jjshoe: I more that strongly suspect the level is "0" |
| 19:56.05 | [TK]D-Fender | jjshoe: And I'm also sure Voicemail is not your problem. |
| 19:56.13 | jjshoe | there might be a way to get that now, I just need to look at the source |
| 19:56.19 | [TK]D-Fender | jjshoe: But feel free to tear it arapt |
| 19:56.27 | jjshoe | either way, both chunks of info would be extremely helpful when tinkering with voicemail settings |
| 19:56.52 | [TK]D-Fender | apart* |
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| 20:05.58 | Linuturk | I've got an asterisk server that isn't allowing any calls outbound. this was working before. Nothing has changed on this server for months, including the dial plan |
| 20:06.03 | Linuturk | suggestions? |
| 20:06.58 | ricko73 | sip provider problem? |
| 20:07.13 | Linuturk | no, runs on 3 pots |
| 20:07.15 | jjshoe | Qwell yeah nothing there for printing out debug info |
| 20:09.48 | [TK]D-Fender | Linuturk: I suggest you show us your call attempt with all relevant debug in a pastebin |
| 20:09.50 | [TK]D-Fender | ~pb |
| 20:09.51 | jbot | [~pb] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste, or , http://bin.cakephp.org/ |
| 20:10.50 | Linuturk | [TK]D-Fender: not sure how to get a hold of the debug info |
| 20:11.01 | [TK]D-Fender | Linuturk: * CLI <- |
| 20:11.13 | [TK]D-Fender | Linuturk: Show us the call attempt |
| 20:11.37 | Linuturk | http://pastebin.ca/1297295 |
| 20:11.39 | corr | happy new year everyone |
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| 20:13.21 | [TK]D-Fender | Linuturk: -- Hungup 'Zap/2-1' <- rather strange to see 2 of these so close together. set your verbose 10 |
| 20:13.32 | [TK]D-Fender | Linuturk: And what card is that? |
| 20:14.23 | [TK]D-Fender | Linuturk: I would also take an analog phone and manually test that line. |
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| 20:32.32 | Linuturk | [TK]D-Fender: WCTDM/0 "Wildcard TDM400P REV H Board 1 |
| 20:32.49 | Linuturk | I'm waiting for an outgoing call attempt |
| 20:32.59 | [TK]D-Fender | Linuturk: Ok, wahts the result with higher verbose? And the physical line test? |
| 20:33.07 | [TK]D-Fender | Linuturk: You can't place a call yourself? |
| 20:33.37 | [TK]D-Fender | Linuturk: Also waht ver of * & Zaptel/Dahdi? |
| 20:35.13 | Linuturk | http://pastebin.ca/1297307 << verbose 10 |
| 20:35.27 | Linuturk | Asterisk 1.0.9 |
| 20:35.47 | Linuturk | how do I pull the zaptel version info? |
| 20:36.12 | Linuturk | the office is an hour drive away, so I've not been able to get there to test yet |
| 20:36.26 | Linuturk | I put a call into the ISP to get a tech out there to test the lines |
| 20:36.34 | [TK]D-Fender | Linuturk: And you you can SSh to it yet can't connect a softphone? |
| 20:36.59 | Linuturk | ummm, I don't know how to connect a softphone :( |
| 20:37.09 | [TK]D-Fender | Linuturk: Pick another channel specifically rather than just the group. |
| 20:37.13 | [TK]D-Fender | ....... |
| 20:37.29 | [TK]D-Fender | Linuturk: And what are you doing on use an ancient version? |
| 20:38.46 | Linuturk | this box was inherited when I started this job. obviously, the previous admin never saw fit to update this Asterisk@home box. I'm new to asterisk, so I'm a bit list |
| 20:38.49 | Linuturk | lost* |
| 20:39.08 | Linuturk | will Ekiga work? |
| 20:42.16 | Katty | dumdedum |
| 20:42.38 | [TK]D-Fender | Linuturk: can you have someone place a call for you? |
| 20:42.49 | Linuturk | yeah, I can |
| 20:43.15 | [TK]D-Fender | Linuturk: then change it so it dial another zap channel specifically instead of the group and see if its jsut the line. |
| 20:43.18 | [TK]D-Fender | Katty: Mew. |
| 20:43.29 | [TK]D-Fender | Katty: Happy Pending New Year |
| 20:43.40 | eppigy | hello |
| 20:44.18 | [TK]D-Fender | You are dave |
| 20:44.23 | eppigy | it is true |
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| 21:00.50 | tzafrir_laptop | Linuturk, with a recent enough kernel: cat /sys/module/zaptel/version |
| 21:01.09 | tzafrir_laptop | hmm.... but I think that zaptel 1.0.x did not set a version field |
| 21:01.20 | [TK]D-Fender | tzafrir_laptop: i'M SURE ITS A MATCHING ONE FOR THE PERIOD.... AT WAS 1.0.7.1 iirc |
| 21:01.51 | [TK]D-Fender | tzafrir_laptop: But I doubt that matters. Hopefully he'll get back with the results of the targeted channel test |
| 21:02.30 | Linuturk | no such luck on the zaptel version tzafrir_laptop |
| 21:02.39 | Linuturk | and, I can't figure out how to do the targed channel test |
| 21:02.46 | [TK]D-Fender | Linuturk: And on the targeted test I suggested you do? |
| 21:03.03 | [TK]D-Fender | Linuturk: Change from using a group to using a specific channel. |
| 21:03.26 | tzafrir_laptop | what happens when you try to call out? |
| 21:03.38 | Linuturk | the call immediately drops tzafrir_laptop |
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| 21:03.49 | [TK]D-Fender | [15:35]<Linuturk>http://pastebin.ca/1297307 << verbose 10 |
| 21:05.01 | tzafrir_laptop | Linuturk, do you have a log with full debug information as well? (e.g. "full") |
| 21:05.46 | Linuturk | tzafrir_laptop: yeah, I've got a log called full |
| 21:06.16 | Linuturk | [TK]D-Fender: so, I need to make a change in extensions.conf, right? |
| 21:06.47 | [TK]D-Fender | Linuturk: No, You are using AMP.... an ANCIENT version of it and it owns you |
| 21:07.01 | [TK]D-Fender | Linuturk: You configure this through its GUI |
| 21:07.02 | Linuturk | shoot, I don't have the password to the Asterisk management portal |
| 21:07.13 | Linuturk | is there a way to reset it? |
| 21:07.13 | [TK]D-Fender | Linuturk: How long have you had this position? |
| 21:07.32 | Linuturk | since sept |
| 21:07.51 | Linuturk | I'm trying to get into digium for training, but they don't have any bloody classes |
| 21:08.09 | [TK]D-Fender | Linuturk: You can say a prayer and ask in #freepbx and maybe someone there knows where to go |
| 21:08.42 | jjshoe | Linuturk what are you trying to get? |
| 21:09.08 | [TK]D-Fender | jjshoe: Wants to reset his AMP admin pass |
| 21:09.42 | Linuturk | [TK]D-Fender: the previous admin left on bad terms and fsck'd all the documentation he had made |
| 21:10.15 | jjshoe | Linuturk what are you trying to get? |
| 21:10.36 | Linuturk | reset the admin password for asterisk@home's gui |
| 21:10.51 | jjshoe | Linuturk mysql -u root -p |
| 21:10.51 | [TK]D-Fender | Well I guess *I'm* on /ignore... |
| 21:10.55 | jjshoe | try passw0rd for your password |
| 21:10.57 | tzafrir_laptop | Linuturk, for the password, start with /etc/amportal.conf |
| 21:11.01 | jjshoe | let me know if you get that far |
| 21:11.15 | [TK]D-Fender | \o/ |
| 21:11.19 | tzafrir_laptop | guess that the default is still used |
| 21:12.17 | jjshoe | if you do you need to type use asterisk followed up with select * from ampusers where username = 'admin'; |
| 21:12.28 | jjshoe | but probably easier to start with where tzafrir_laptop said |
| 21:13.00 | Linuturk | AMPMGRUSER & AMPMGRPASS ? |
| 21:13.10 | Linuturk | cause, those values aren't working |
| 21:14.07 | Linuturk | AMPWEBADDRESS= is set though |
| 21:14.11 | Linuturk | that's probably screwing it up |
| 21:14.39 | [TK]D-Fender | ok, closing up shop, back later... |
| 21:15.10 | Linuturk | tzafrir_laptop: can I set AMPWEBADDRESS to * to allow access from anywhere? |
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| 21:15.35 | tzafrir_laptop | Linuturk, I guess you just use the value set there |
| 21:16.11 | tzafrir_laptop | Linuturk, but then again, I think TK's offer to ask in #freepbx would be better |
| 21:16.30 | tzafrir_laptop | Probably more people there who remember how to operate AMP |
| 21:16.42 | jjshoe | or you know, follow my directions. |
| 21:17.11 | Linuturk | jjshoe: the auth type is set to none, which the comments say it uses the values above |
| 21:17.31 | jjshoe | Linuturk ah |
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| 21:23.10 | exothermc | I can't get the dahdi_dummy module loaded. I get this error: FATAL: Error inserting dahdi_dummy (/lib/modules/2.6.18-92.1.13.el5.028stab059.3PAE/dahdi/dahdi_dummy.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter |
| 21:24.04 | exothermc | is there any reason that 1.4.22 won't recognize ztdummy as the same thing and use it? |
| 21:35.25 | jaytee | with 1.4.22 you either pick dahdi (which it defaults to) or zaptel (which you have to choose when you run make menuselect. Of course either dahdi or zaptel have to be compiled first before you compile asterisk. |
| 21:35.44 | exothermc | how do I pick zaptel? |
| 21:36.00 | jaytee | ^^^^ make menuselect |
| 21:36.26 | exothermc | ya I'm in there |
| 21:36.59 | jaytee | channel drivers |
| 21:37.13 | exothermc | I don't see anything about zaptel in there. |
| 21:37.27 | jaytee | did you compile and install zaptel? |
| 21:37.33 | exothermc | yup |
| 21:37.51 | exothermc | /dev/zap/psedu is there. |
| 21:38.44 | exothermc | I see XXX 3. chan_dahdi |
| 21:38.49 | exothermc | but nothing about zaptel |
| 21:38.59 | exothermc | which leads me to think that something is missing somewhere else. |
| 21:40.45 | jaytee | what distro? |
| 21:41.11 | exothermc | centos 5 |
| 21:41.22 | exothermc | but inside a openvz ve |
| 21:41.40 | jaytee | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/CentOS+5+and+Asterisk+1.4.x+installation <<<< use this as a guide, I've used it for several installs and never had a problem. |
| 21:41.58 | exothermc | and you use zaptel? |
| 21:42.00 | jaytee | ah, openvz. hmmm, think your screwed probably. |
| 21:42.28 | jaytee | yeah, but I never run asterisk in a virtual machine, I always run asterisk native |
| 21:42.47 | exothermc | Well we've done it many times before. |
| 21:42.56 | exothermc | this is the first compile that is giving us this problem. |
| 21:43.43 | jaytee | I've seen people saying that they have gotten it to work with zaptel before in Xen or some other VM but I've never tried myself. |
| 21:44.37 | exothermc | yup 1.4.18 works like a charm |
| 21:44.45 | jaytee | If I was running pure SIP only I'd consider running it in a VM but with either and FXO card or a T1 card I always stick with native. |
| 21:45.06 | jaytee | no errors when you compiled zaptel? |
| 21:45.31 | exothermc | why compile zaptel when it is compiled loaded and working on 15 other environments. |
| 21:45.40 | exothermc | on the same host |
| 21:46.16 | jaytee | it's running on 15 other VM's on the same machine? |
| 21:46.33 | exothermc | yup |
| 21:46.41 | jaytee | ~wglwat |
| 21:46.42 | jbot | i heard wglwat is well, good luck with all that |
| 21:46.45 | exothermc | only difference is a different version of asterisk |
| 21:47.05 | exothermc | All I'm trying to do is compile a new version and bork |
| 21:47.25 | jaytee | are the other VM's running the latest version of zaptel? or an older version? |
| 21:48.00 | exothermc | VMs don't run a version of zaptel they load it from the host system which is probably not even close to latest. |
| 21:48.22 | jaytee | could be the source of the problem |
| 21:48.32 | exothermc | can I pull a version using modprobe? |
| 21:48.49 | jaytee | wish I could be more help but I don't have any experience using it in a VM. |
| 21:49.10 | jaytee | you can remove the driver by typing rmmod "drivername" |
| 21:49.20 | exothermc | ya that much I know |
| 21:49.54 | jaytee | oh, you mean find what version is currently running? don't think it gives you that. |
| 21:50.00 | exothermc | let me try to compile on the host and see if there is any difference |
| 21:51.03 | exothermc | hmm damn it works |
| 21:51.07 | exothermc | this is odd |
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| 21:59.14 | exothermc | I'm pretty damn sure the fundamental thing here is that it is defaulting to dahdi and I can't get it switched to zaptel. |
| 21:59.40 | exothermc | 1.4.21 will load up the meetme app just fine. |
| 21:59.43 | exothermc | for compile |
| 21:59.51 | exothermc | but 1.4.22 says it needs dahdi |
| 22:11.36 | exothermc | so I guess we're going we're just going to roll with 1.4.21 |
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| 22:12.32 | Dovid | is there any way of rasing the volume of a sip calls ? |
| 22:12.35 | Dovid | call* |
| 22:12.38 | Dovid | in asterisk ? |
| 22:12.55 | jjshoe | a sip call doesn't have volume |
| 22:13.02 | jjshoe | it's digital |
| 22:13.04 | exothermc | I don't know that asterisk allows you to manipulate the rtp |
| 22:13.13 | exothermc | jjshoe: that isn't correct. |
| 22:14.05 | exothermc | Dovid: You shouldn't need to do that, and if you did it would be expensive. |
| 22:14.09 | justdave_ | you can change the gain on it as long as it's an analog connection |
| 22:14.20 | justdave_ | it's controled in the dahdi config |
| 22:14.24 | justdave_ | if it's sip, it doesn't do that |
| 22:14.26 | Dovid | so i thought |
| 22:14.36 | justdave_ | the source would have to change it on their end where they're recording it |
| 22:14.38 | jjshoe | exothermc you can convert it to analog and change the volume, but while digitail in sip form there is no volume to adjust. |
| 22:14.59 | justdave | if you're in a meetme conference you can adjust the volume of each user |
| 22:15.13 | exothermc | jjshoe: You can't manipulate the volume of an rtp stream? |
| 22:15.15 | justdave | but that's a meetme specific thing, not the channels in general |
| 22:15.41 | exothermc | justdave: Yes you are talking about asterisk limitations not sip/rtp limitations. |
| 22:16.34 | justdave | there's no technical reason you couldn't alter the volume in transit... it'd be equivalent to transcoding |
| 22:17.05 | exothermc | exactly it isn't that it can't be done it is just that asterisk doesn't do it. |
| 22:17.23 | exothermc | you don't need to do something as convoluted as convert it to analog and back. |
| 22:17.26 | file | there is a dialplan function, VOLUME(), added in 1.6.0 that allows it to be done on any channel |
| 22:17.46 | exothermc | file: ahh there we go. |
| 22:18.08 | exothermc | Dovid: So the answer is yet you can with the right media processing. |
| 22:18.24 | exothermc | Dovid: but it will still be expensive. |
| 22:18.48 | [TK]D-Fender | volume isn't the problem... |
| 22:19.29 | exothermc | [TK]D-Fender: Hmm you'll need to talk with Dovid about that. Seems that he thinks it is. |
| 22:20.04 | [TK]D-Fender | exothermc: Dovid has an issue with it, or is this about jjshoe's previous problem with voicemail? |
| 22:20.41 | exothermc | [TK]D-Fender: Dovid was just asking about adjusting the gain of an rtp channel |
| 22:21.02 | [TK]D-Fender | exothermc: Ok, just for his own info, yeah this was added in 1.6 |
| 22:21.14 | [TK]D-Fender | exothermc: though you should never have to. |
| 22:21.25 | exothermc | [TK]D-Fender: agreed. |
| 22:21.38 | file | masking the underlying issue comes to mind |
| 22:21.58 | exothermc | [TK]D-Fender: Now my question. Where do you tell asterisk 1.4.22 to use zaptel instead of dahdi? |
| 22:22.37 | [TK]D-Fender | exothermc: recompile * after completely stripping zaptel and installing and preparing DAHDI |
| 22:22.51 | [TK]D-Fender | exothermc: from absolute scratch. |
| 22:22.57 | exothermc | [TK]D-Fender: So ya just ignore the question cool. |
| 22:23.10 | jjshoe | exothermc he's good at it |
| 22:23.13 | jaytee | I thought 1.4.22 would do either zaptel or dahdi |
| 22:23.47 | [TK]D-Fender | exothermc: that sounds like a perfectly productive solution to the DAHDI issue unless there is another question I missed... |
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| 22:24.28 | exothermc | [TK]D-Fender: long story short is that I can't install dahdi at this time and zaptel is happily working. |
| 22:25.09 | jaytee | on 15 other virtual machines on the same host |
| 22:25.16 | [TK]D-Fender | exothermc: Ah so you don't LIKE the solution. Well, sorry, that isn't my problem, just don't say I didn't offer you one. |
| 22:26.01 | exothermc | [TK]D-Fender: No my question was how to tell asterisk 1.4.22 to use zaptel **instead** of dahdi. Not how to get it to use dahdi. |
| 22:26.04 | file | the configure script should see you have zaptel and not dahdi, if so it will switch things into behaving as expected |
| 22:26.43 | mercutioviz | I think there was a difference between LIKING the solution and BEING ABLE to use it... right exothermc? |
| 22:26.48 | [TK]D-Fender | exothermc: But Zaptel is happily running now... except * doesn't even touch it? |
| 22:27.30 | exothermc | mercutioviz: Ya I'll even pretend to like the solution but does get me any closer to something that works. |
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| 22:27.40 | mercutioviz | :D |
| 22:27.46 | jjshoe | exothermc nor is it even remotely close to what you asked about |
| 22:28.02 | jjshoe | exothermc I would look into what file said, maybe look at the configure script to see what it looks for for zaptel? |
| 22:28.07 | [TK]D-Fender | mercutioviz: or notliking being unable to use it :) |
| 22:28.15 | mercutioviz | hehe |
| 22:28.24 | exothermc | ok here we go: "Since Digium is retiring Zaptel with the use of Dahdi, the header you will use to build meetme module to work with Dahdi is called user.h. Just copy this file to /usr/include/dahdi/user.h in CT then build your Asterisk , you should get the MeetMe working." |
| 22:28.29 | exothermc | Now that is the solution. |
| 22:28.43 | file | where is that from? |
| 22:29.05 | *** join/#asterisk UQlev (n=kvirc@91.184.220.73) |
| 22:29.21 | file | and that makes no sense |
| 22:29.42 | exothermc | file: http://wiki.openvz.org/Asterisk_from_source |
| 22:29.43 | file | unless I misread what you said |
| 22:30.43 | file | exothermc: you are using zaptel, but app_meetme is not building? |
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| 22:31.04 | exothermc | file: well it isn't an option to build in 1.4.22 but it is in 1.4.21 |
| 22:31.59 | file | exothermc: make menuselect has it marked out because of an unmet dependency? |
| 22:45.58 | exothermc | file: Yes exactly since 1.4.22 it wants to use dahdi for meetme, and you have to trick it back into zaptel. |
| 22:48.44 | file | if no dahdi is present on the system and only zaptel, you shouldn't have to |
| 22:48.46 | file | that would be a bug |
| 22:50.39 | file | runs off |
| 22:50.49 | exothermc | well 1.4.21 works fine, and 1.4.22 will only work if you take the user.h and stick it in /usr/include/dahdi/user.h |
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| 22:53.18 | watchy | anyone got the newest firmware for polycoms? |
| 22:54.39 | exothermc | wacky_: I do somewhere. |
| 22:54.46 | exothermc | wacky_: Just grab it off their site. |
| 22:56.52 | exothermc | Anyone have any idea what this means: checking for snmp_register_callback in -lnetsnmp... no |
| 22:57.16 | exothermc | more specifically how I can get snmp ready to roll with asterisk. |
| 22:57.39 | LeddyHM | every once in a while my polycom makes a ring type sound. I think it has to do with registering to our * box. Is this the case? Can there be something done to disable the noise? |
| 22:57.48 | jjshoe | LeddyHM do you have voicemail? |
| 22:58.06 | jjshoe | LeddyHM it's a message waiting tone usually |
| 22:58.06 | exothermc | Just in case anyone was thinking it **[TK]D-Fender ** disabling snmp from asterisk isn't exactly what I'm looking for. |
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| 22:58.13 | *** mode/#asterisk [+o twisted] by ChanServ |
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| 22:58.17 | LeddyHM | on one line yes |
| 22:58.18 | jjshoe | exothermc lol |
| 22:58.21 | Jabess | am here! |
| 22:58.27 | LeddyHM | can that be disabled? |
| 22:58.30 | jjshoe | LeddyHM disable the message waiting tone in the phone config |
| 22:58.38 | seanbright | exothermc: install snmp-devel? |
| 22:58.39 | LeddyHM | let me lookie |
| 22:58.42 | Jabess | some body use Asterisk on FreebsD? |
| 22:58.49 | exothermc | seanbright: ya did that. |
| 22:58.49 | jjshoe | LeddyHM mwi i think |
| 22:58.52 | twisted | I have used asterisk on Darwin... close enough |
| 22:58.53 | seanbright | exothermc: distro? |
| 22:58.54 | [TK]D-Fender | exothermc: feeling proactively agressive for my single misdirect suggestion much? |
| 22:59.00 | exothermc | seanbright: centos5 |
| 22:59.11 | seanbright | exothermc: you need lmsensors-devel too |
| 22:59.16 | seanbright | or something along those lines |
| 22:59.18 | exothermc | seanbright: ok thanks |
| 22:59.23 | seanbright | lm_sensors-devel |
| 22:59.54 | Jabess | exactly i need in Freebsd... is to see if on freebsd compile very well |
| 22:59.56 | *** topic/#asterisk by twisted -> Asterisk: The Open Source PBX and Telephony Platform (asterisk.org) -=- Asterisk 1.6.0.2 |
| 22:59.56 | twisted | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:59.56 | twisted | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:59.58 | twisted | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:59.59 | LeddyHM | yeah I see the mwi stuff |
| 23:00.00 | twisted | errrr |
| 23:00.09 | exothermc | [TK]D-Fender: Nope just wanted to head that route off early on :D |
| 23:00.12 | LeddyHM | I wonder if I modify that it will no longer show voicemail at all |
| 23:00.18 | LeddyHM | I was just hoping to remove the tone |
| 23:00.29 | *** join/#asterisk obnauticus (n=lol@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) |
| 23:00.32 | [TK]D-Fender | LeddyHM: You can. Consider it done |
| 23:00.48 | *** topic/#asterisk by twisted -> Asterisk: The Open Source PBX and Telephony Platform (asterisk.org) -=- Asterisk 1.6.0.2 (2008/12/02), 1.4.22 (2008/10/02), *-Addons 1.6.0.1 (2008/12/02), 1.4.7 (2008/06/04), dahdi-linux 2.1.0, dahdi-tools 2.1.0 (2008/12/09), Libpri 1.4.7 (2008/08/05) -=- Related channels: #asterisknow #asterisk-gui #switchvox #freepbx #asterisk-commits #asterisk-bugs #asterisk-dev -=- Happy New Year! |
| 23:00.53 | twisted | there we go |
| 23:01.07 | LeddyHM | tk: this is just a one off change |
| 23:01.13 | LeddyHM | not for everyone |
| 23:01.19 | [TK]D-Fender | LeddyHM: no worries |
| 23:01.20 | LeddyHM | care to share the magic code? |
| 23:01.48 | [TK]D-Fender | LeddyHM: there is a sound from sip.cfg you can override in your phone specific to silent |
| 23:01.55 | jjshoe | LeddyHM set the mwi to 0 |
| 23:02.21 | LeddyHM | tk: we only want to change 1 registration |
| 23:02.28 | LeddyHM | the phone has a dual registration |
| 23:02.36 | LeddyHM | mwi seems like the way to go |
| 23:03.01 | [TK]D-Fender | LeddyHM: So 1 to warble, one not? |
| 23:03.09 | LeddyHM | yes |
| 23:03.18 | LeddyHM | warble, cute term |
| 23:03.32 | [TK]D-Fender | LeddyHM: ok, not sure if you can keep MIW and sectively disable the warble. Lemme look. |
| 23:03.42 | jjshoe | LeddyHM you can also delete the references to the chord it's playing |
| 23:04.07 | [TK]D-Fender | exothermc: jjshoe is 0 for 2, feel free to bit his head off now ;) |
| 23:04.11 | [TK]D-Fender | bite* |
| 23:04.33 | LeddyHM | This is what I have: msg.mwi.2.subscribe="" msg.mwi.2.callBackMode="contact" msg.mwi.2.callBack="Voicemail" |
| 23:04.41 | jjshoe | LeddyHM there's tons of references on google: http://www.mail-archive.com/asterisk-users@lists.digium.com/msg121364.html |
| 23:04.52 | twisted | ooooh a polycom question |
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| 23:05.54 | [TK]D-Fender | exothermc: 0 for 3, no comment? |
| 23:06.01 | exothermc | lol |
| 23:06.22 | exothermc | he isn't spinning me for a loop :D |
| 23:06.28 | [TK]D-Fender | waits on double-digits.... |
| 23:06.53 | [TK]D-Fender | exothermc: Hey, I got 1 point wrong and stopped... sure ain't "spinning", so don't give me that :p |
| 23:07.15 | twisted | hey LeddyHM, in the newer configs, there's an option for up.mwiVisible="" |
| 23:07.23 | [TK]D-Fender | has burned out on burning out... |
| 23:07.27 | LeddyHM | to make sure I understand the response they only changed line 1 to silence and left line2/3 high and dry? |
| 23:07.46 | [TK]D-Fender | LeddyHM: that link isn't per reg... it is an all or nothing. |
| 23:07.54 | LeddyHM | doh |
| 23:08.02 | [TK]D-Fender | LeddyHM: so it isn't what you're hoping for... |
| 23:08.04 | twisted | actually |
| 23:08.18 | twisted | that's for enabling per-line vmwi |
| 23:08.30 | jjshoe | LeddyHM change them all to silence |
| 23:08.38 | exothermc | [TK]D-Fender: You are actually really helpful when the question is good, and you know the answer. If you don't know the answer though you just try to talk people out of doing what they are wanting to do. Which with most people that come here I can't say I blame you :P |
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| 23:08.53 | mercutioviz | hehe |
| 23:08.59 | twisted | LeddyHM: there's also this: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Polycom+SoundPoint+IP+MWI+audio |
| 23:10.06 | [TK]D-Fender | exothermc: No I did get the direction backwards by accident. "Oops". And no I don't just try to talk people out of things. I try to offer people solutions that should work. |
| 23:10.13 | *** join/#asterisk CpuID (i=okqiidoo@gentoo/contributor/cpuid) |
| 23:10.40 | LeddyHM | in that previous post it looks as though I leave the line intact and change 1.inst.2.type="silence" |
| 23:10.46 | exothermc | [TK]D-Fender: Oh mybad I thought you were just trying to tell me to do exactly what I was trying not to do. |
| 23:11.00 | LeddyHM | let me read this new link |
| 23:11.05 | twisted | LeddyHM: hmm... possibly, but check this one out also: |
| 23:11.09 | twisted | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Polycom+Phones#SettingAustralianCallProgressTones |
| 23:11.24 | twisted | even though its for AU, you can edit the STUTTER_LONG tone |
| 23:11.28 | exothermc | [TK]D-Fender: purposefully that is. |
| 23:11.34 | [TK]D-Fender | exothermc: Hell no. |
| 23:11.55 | [TK]D-Fender | exothermc: Giving purposefully wrong info? NEVER. |
| 23:12.03 | exothermc | lol |
| 23:12.15 | CpuID | hey ppls, anyone here use SER with *? just interested in some feedback on how well things work :) |
| 23:12.36 | exothermc | CpuID: Ya don't use SER, use openser or better yet opensips |
| 23:12.44 | CpuID | oh yep |
| 23:12.52 | exothermc | CpuID: great way to scale what you have and load balance as well. |
| 23:12.53 | CpuID | im more trying to just verify the benefit of using a sip proxy really |
| 23:13.04 | exothermc | CpuID: Depends on your needs. |
| 23:13.07 | CpuID | i gather its due to asterisk's chan_sip not coping with large quantities of traffic? |
| 23:13.08 | [TK]D-Fender | LeddyHM: I've just been through the 3.1.X admin guide and they show nothing that can do this selectively |
| 23:13.09 | LeddyHM | is there also a setting for the light indicator as well? |
| 23:13.30 | exothermc | CpuID: Ok ya you can offload a huge chunk of that with opensips |
| 23:13.36 | LeddyHM | the second param maybe? |
| 23:13.40 | exothermc | CpuID: or look at freeswitch |
| 23:13.53 | exothermc | but still use opensips if you have a good volume. |
| 23:14.12 | CpuID | in the hundreds of channels... would you consider that volume? |
| 23:14.13 | CpuID | :) |
| 23:14.32 | CpuID | btw, what really happens with asterisk once it starts getting soem load? does it just keel over? start chewing heapsa cpu? |
| 23:14.37 | exothermc | CpuID: We define volume starting at >1000 channels |
| 23:14.45 | CpuID | oh yep |
| 23:14.47 | LeddyHM | tk: I wonder what the difference between 1.inst.1.type and 1.inst.2.type is then |
| 23:14.58 | LeddyHM | seems like registration 1 and 2 |
| 23:15.00 | CpuID | so you would feel comfortable with 1k channels on a single asterisk install...? |
| 23:15.05 | exothermc | CpuID: Oh that is the fun part you never really know what you'll get. |
| 23:15.10 | CpuID | hehe :P |
| 23:15.41 | [TK]D-Fender | LeddyHM: No, otherwise it wouldn't be limited to 2. This is alert stages so you can stagger more annoying sounds :) |
| 23:16.10 | exothermc | CpuID: No we don't run anything over 100 chans on a single asterisk install. Not saying it can't handle more, but if you are running over 1000 channels on asterisk you are either just amazingly briliant or you haven't valued your time very much. |
| 23:16.23 | CpuID | lol yea fair call |
| 23:16.48 | LeddyHM | ahh |
| 23:16.59 | CpuID | mmm opensips looks kinda cool, continuation of openser i see |
| 23:17.01 | LeddyHM | that would make sense... gentle to maddening notifications |
| 23:17.10 | [TK]D-Fender | LeddyHM: So maybe you can live with just getting rid of the warble alltogether.... |
| 23:17.31 | [TK]D-Fender | LeddyHM: stuff to consider... |
| 23:17.38 | [TK]D-Fender | LeddyHM: there are other options.... |
| 23:17.38 | exothermc | I have seen and I have sunk way to many hours into trying to make it scale and stable for that load. I could be dumber than the average bear though. |
| 23:17.50 | CpuID | lol :P |
| 23:17.59 | CpuID | exothermc, main benefits of considering freeswitch over asterisk...? |
| 23:18.03 | [TK]D-Fender | LeddyHM: You can use the MB to visually alert that there is VM for the other reg and leave your primary MWI 100% intact. |
| 23:18.12 | exothermc | CpuID: less features more load. |
| 23:18.22 | [TK]D-Fender | LeddyHM: Not exactly "uniform", but as close a fake-out as I can come up with at the moment |
| 23:18.26 | CpuID | haha, which direction there? :) |
| 23:18.31 | CpuID | as in asterisk has less features with more load? |
| 23:18.57 | exothermc | CpuID: opposite. Freeswitch won't turn every screw you may have, but will handle more load. |
| 23:18.57 | [TK]D-Fender | LeddyHM: I do this for my call-center |
| 23:19.04 | CpuID | ah... :) |
| 23:19.44 | LeddyHM | I think in this case... removing it is better |
| 23:19.45 | LeddyHM | driving the wife mad |
| 23:19.45 | CpuID | and whats your opinions of clustering type setups with either of */freeswitch? |
| 23:19.45 | exothermc | CpuID: Plus the project is young, a for instance is that you are suggested to run off of trunk right now. |
| 23:20.04 | CpuID | hehe :P |
| 23:20.05 | LeddyHM | so I'm just going to remove the mwi for the work line |
| 23:20.17 | exothermc | CpuID: with good design they work right. We even put expensive commercial machine in behind opensips as a kind of sbc |
| 23:20.40 | exothermc | CpuID: I say kinda because a true sbc would do topology hiding which opensips doesn't do. |
| 23:20.59 | CpuID | yea for this particular project due to the quantity of channels i was intending to put an audiocodes box in as an E1 to SIP gateway |
| 23:21.10 | CpuID | then handle everything else over SIP over local ethernet |
| 23:21.11 | exothermc | CpuID: but if you are going to hit * or fs then it doesn't matter anyway. |
| 23:21.39 | watchy | exo: can you get the newest polycom sip from their site? |
| 23:21.41 | exothermc | CpuID: If you are only doing an E1 then anything will really work fine. |
| 23:21.49 | CpuID | exothermc, or 16... :) |
| 23:22.03 | CpuID | and possibly 2 of those audiocodes 16 span units... :) |
| 23:22.05 | exothermc | wacky_: yes but you should get your own support channel. |
| 23:22.13 | exothermc | wacky_: I mean login. |
| 23:22.14 | watchy | yea i should probably |
| 23:22.26 | watchy | since i doing more and more voip systems |
| 23:22.33 | exothermc | CpuID: are you going to do high cps? like voiceblasting? |
| 23:22.48 | CpuID | haha voiceblasting? you mean autodialling? :P nah |
| 23:23.15 | exothermc | CpuID: ok cause we haven't seen many tdm gateways stand up to those loads even on low channel usage. |
| 23:23.15 | CpuID | probably talking 10~ new calls per second max |
| 23:23.17 | watchy | wow when did poly start letting everyone download their newest firmware? |
| 23:24.20 | exothermc | CpuID: Can I ask why you are doing your own tdm to IP conversion? |
| 23:24.20 | CpuID | hehe :) |
| 23:24.45 | CpuID | exothermc, mainly to avoid dealing with random PCI cards etc, and because were buying voice services off carriers |
| 23:24.49 | [TK]D-Fender | watchy: SIP 3.1.1 is easily accesable right on their site... |
| 23:24.49 | CpuID | rather than using internet grade voip :) |
| 23:25.15 | *** part/#asterisk sekil (n=Ognjen@80.93.247.26) |
| 23:25.23 | [TK]D-Fender | watchy: And it does not yet appear they off the latest... |
| 23:25.27 | [TK]D-Fender | offer* |
| 23:25.30 | CpuID | some of the traffic will get turned into native SIP one day in the future, on private ethernet links to the carriers providing it, but most for now is over E1 |
| 23:25.32 | exothermc | CpuID: lol it may surprise what happens to that traffic after it gets handed off at the tandum. |
| 23:25.51 | CpuID | tandum? |
| 23:26.29 | exothermc | CpuID: People mistakenly think if they hand the traffic off to an ILEC or even CLEC that the traffic will stay on dedicated circuits until it is terminated. but that is very far from the truth. |
| 23:26.46 | CpuID | haha... yea i gather :) |
| 23:27.04 | CpuID | but at least if their providing the service as a carrier grade service, then if the service goes clunky its their problem not ours :) |
| 23:27.14 | CpuID | whereas over the net it becomes a "thats the internet" response |
| 23:27.37 | exothermc | well if all you have is crappy net then I can see your point, but don't kid yourself it is always your problem. |
| 23:27.52 | CpuID | on that note, net is FAR more expensive here than the US :) |
| 23:28.01 | CpuID | so buying over E1's is actually not a bad option for viability :) |
| 23:28.15 | CpuID | since we pay in the hundreds of dollars/mbit... :) |
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| 23:28.57 | exothermc | ya that makes sense. |
| 23:29.11 | CpuID | not to mention you have the issue of some random carrier/isp in the middle over the internet playing with your voip qos just to be anti competitive or something stupid, not that it happens often but theres so many more out-of-our-reach factors over the net :) |
| 23:29.23 | CpuID | at least with a carrier service, if its in their network its their problem, we say fix it |
| 23:29.38 | exothermc | CpuID: In my opinion just stick openser in front of whatever you setup, but don't try to get to fancy with it or you will burn a bunch of time. |
| 23:29.47 | CpuID | fair call |
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| 23:32.24 | watchy | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:33.08 | exothermc | wacky_: that question almost makes sense. I'll let you try again. |
| 23:33.15 | LeddyHM | that would be counterproductive |
| 23:33.32 | watchy | hmm a polycom browser mini site |
| 23:33.33 | LeddyHM | the microbrowser is very limited, might as well write a full fledged web app |
| 23:33.50 | watchy | well you couldnt make one that would view a small xml site that says extension etc |
| 23:34.03 | watchy | and put it in the microbrowser and it would use serverside sql to set it up? |
| 23:34.44 | LeddyHM | again, counterproductive |
| 23:34.59 | watchy | why |
| 23:35.22 | watchy | if you could boot a phone and enter its extension in the microbrowser and reboot it again and it would be setup i think it would be quick and easy |
| 23:35.23 | LeddyHM | try typing Samantha Scapadopolous on your phone |
| 23:35.35 | LeddyHM | and then on your keyboard |
| 23:35.54 | exothermc | wacky_: or you could just have it boot and grab it's config at boot time. |
| 23:36.16 | watchy | but then youd have to edit shit on the server |
| 23:36.37 | watchy | yea i see your point leddy |
| 23:36.37 | LeddyHM | a web app edits "shit on the server" too |
| 23:36.44 | watchy | true |
| 23:36.54 | watchy | i'm having to write a gui for a client |
| 23:37.18 | watchy | is the microbrowser useable for anything? |
| 23:37.19 | [TK]D-Fender | watchy: MB is a GUI too, just a shit one :) |
| 23:37.28 | [TK]D-Fender | watchy: All sorts of stuff. |
| 23:37.36 | watchy | like what tk? |
| 23:37.53 | watchy | gimme something neat to show clients |
| 23:37.53 | [TK]D-Fender | watchy: I monitor my call center, use it for corporate directories, speed-dials, etc. |
| 23:37.55 | LeddyHM | MB is useful for a lot of non useful stuff |
| 23:38.13 | LeddyHM | I use MB to browse our sharepoint contact directory |
| 23:38.15 | [TK]D-Fender | watchy: Showing company logo's, etc |
| 23:38.21 | LeddyHM | and current/future weather conditions |
| 23:38.32 | watchy | ah |
| 23:38.45 | watchy | the contact directory is a good idea |
| 23:38.57 | exothermc | MB |
| 23:38.58 | exothermc | ? |
| 23:39.00 | LeddyHM | href="tel://NUMBER" |
| 23:39.09 | LeddyHM | MB = Micro Browser |
| 23:39.10 | [TK]D-Fender | watchy: visually changing server settings like "night mode", etc. |
| 23:39.11 | Jabess | is too bad this [Dec 31 18:16:47] WARNING[54751]: chan_oss.c:493 setformat: Unable to re-open DSP device /dev/dsp: No such file or directory |
| 23:39.13 | Jabess | ? |
| 23:39.13 | watchy | this school district i'm doing a install wants 12 670s |
| 23:39.46 | [TK]D-Fender | watchy: 670's? lol... WHY... |
| 23:39.55 | LeddyHM | bud dry! |
| 23:40.01 | watchy | cause they have a major budget |
| 23:40.02 | [TK]D-Fender | unload chan_overkill.so |
| 23:40.04 | exothermc | wacky_: I can't say I have seen a good use for a 670, but there could be one. |
| 23:40.04 | watchy | and want to waste it tk? |
| 23:40.15 | watchy | its .gov |
| 23:40.17 | [TK]D-Fender | watchy: That is an accurate outcome |
| 23:40.21 | watchy | why do u think they want it |
| 23:40.33 | watchy | they wanted 12 670s and 18 color sidecars |
| 23:40.34 | watchy | heh |
| 23:40.37 | [TK]D-Fender | watchy: I try not to think like crazy people :) |
| 23:40.45 | exothermc | wacky_: have them put that money into your consulting fee instead of phone they won't really use. If you are smart. |
| 23:40.57 | watchy | wont happen, my boss set this deal up |
| 23:41.02 | watchy | its a chick he used to bone |
| 23:41.08 | exothermc | lol |
| 23:41.21 | watchy | were ordering 3 mediatrix 24port things to |
| 23:41.32 | watchy | its gonna be a decent sized install |
| 23:41.42 | exothermc | throws hands up and walks away. |
| 23:41.43 | LeddyHM | for 12 phones? |
| 23:41.49 | watchy | they want more then 12 phones |
| 23:41.57 | watchy | like 60 or so analogs |
| 23:42.10 | watchy | i think they are doing like 120 330s |
| 23:42.19 | watchy | and this is just the highschool |
| 23:42.20 | JonOnt | Having a wierd problem, incoming calls are taking up to a minute before they ring into the system, phones ring once every thirty seconds or so, any one have any idea whats going on? |
| 23:42.50 | watchy | you dont like mediatrix exothermc? |
| 23:43.09 | watchy | tk recommended them a few months ago |
| 23:43.21 | LeddyHM | we have 501's and like them |
| 23:43.42 | watchy | i have a install with about 60 501s and 3 601s |
| 23:43.53 | watchy | a install wit 4 330s and 2 650s |
| 23:44.14 | watchy | i do like the backlit of the 650s by far |
| 23:44.37 | [TK]D-Fender | 450 is backlit |
| 23:44.45 | watchy | yea i should start selling though |
| 23:44.46 | [TK]D-Fender | as is the 550/560 |
| 23:44.59 | watchy | i got some 330s for $75 each brand new with power brick though |
| 23:45.03 | watchy | so i bought 30 of them |
| 23:45.13 | [TK]D-Fender | watchy: awesome deal |
| 23:45.32 | watchy | my homie in phoenix bought 30 for a client of his, his client went outta business |
| 23:45.38 | watchy | so the client needed to get rid of them |
| 23:45.56 | exothermc | watchy: I don't have any experience with mediatrix other than their 2 port ata is sitting in the lab for me to play with, but I haven't yet. |
| 23:46.22 | watchy | we put in some mediatrix at a nursing home to replace some Rhino t1 channel banks |
| 23:46.33 | watchy | it made a world of difference, rhino equipment sucks |
| 23:46.50 | exothermc | we just use audiocodes for those type of things. |
| 23:46.55 | [TK]D-Fender | watchy: x86 swears by them (and occasionally AT them :)) |
| 23:47.21 | [TK]D-Fender | exothermc: AudioCodes is fairly solid, but a much steeper configuring learning job |
| 23:47.43 | [TK]D-Fender | exothermc: I trialed an 1124 & an MP-124 |
| 23:47.56 | watchy | i'm pretty happy with the ones we used, someone had some 1124s on ebay for $400 each |
| 23:48.04 | watchy | we bought abunch for the nursing home project |
| 23:48.14 | [TK]D-Fender | watchy: Wow, you are just swimming in the deals, aren't you? |
| 23:48.23 | exothermc | [TK]D-Fender: Ya they seem to be like cisco, you can never remember how to configure them because you never screw with them once they are running. |
| 23:48.30 | watchy | man i'm the king of deals |
| 23:48.42 | watchy | i keep my ebay watch list full |
| 23:49.01 | LeddyHM | ebay is dangerous |
| 23:49.04 | watchy | i got a sweet 8 port avocent 1031 ip kvm for $150 barely used |
| 23:49.09 | watchy | it retails for like $2500 |
| 23:49.34 | LeddyHM | they can tell you anything |
| 23:49.43 | LeddyHM | do you relaly have proof? |
| 23:49.47 | LeddyHM | really |
| 23:49.53 | exothermc | watchy: Grab me some licensed sonus gear for under $10k :D |
| 23:50.00 | watchy | whats a sonus? |
| 23:50.06 | Jabess | what is the best quality for a latency of 2000ms? |
| 23:50.09 | LeddyHM | oh wow |
| 23:50.12 | LeddyHM | google it |
| 23:50.17 | LeddyHM | sonus > * |
| 23:50.29 | watchy | i have never been ripped off on ebay |
| 23:50.30 | exothermc | LeddyHM: Come on that isn't a fair comparison. |
| 23:50.44 | watchy | and my feedback is like 700 %100 |
| 23:50.54 | LeddyHM | sure it is |
| 23:50.59 | exothermc | That is like comparing a tire to a ferrari |
| 23:51.04 | watchy | haha |
| 23:51.05 | LeddyHM | ask me about something else that's cool and it's > * |
| 23:51.12 | watchy | sex? |
| 23:51.27 | LeddyHM | the only bad sex is abstinance |
| 23:51.39 | LeddyHM | whether by choice or god |
| 23:51.52 | watchy | well rape is sex and being a guy i don't wanna be raped |
| 23:52.05 | LeddyHM | however I just bought a new firewall for the house on ebay that has been treating me well |
| 23:52.26 | LeddyHM | watchy: it was good for 1 party ;) |
| 23:52.37 | watchy | yea i agree thats true |
| 23:53.00 | watchy | man a local time server makes these polys bootup 5minutes faster |
| 23:53.02 | watchy | insane |
| 23:53.32 | [TK]D-Fender | watchy: Mine boot < 2 minutes without a local one. |
| 23:53.35 | LeddyHM | mine too |
| 23:53.38 | LeddyHM | pool.ntp.org |
| 23:53.47 | watchy | hm, wierd sometimes mine take forever to boot |
| 23:53.50 | watchy | what usually causes that? |
| 23:53.55 | [TK]D-Fender | watchy: So you're saying they'll boot 3 minutes before I remember they need to be? ;) |
| 23:54.29 | watchy | i think you need a hug |
| 23:54.55 | watchy | i was a big fan of pool.ntp.org till i put these phones at this school on a different VLAN and had no internet |
| 23:55.11 | watchy | they were all crying my phones time wont stop blinking |
| 23:55.13 | [TK]D-Fender | hands watchy a copy of IDC's "Temporal Mechanics & Relativity For Dummies" |
| 23:55.34 | watchy | i will fly to canada and beat u up |
| 23:55.55 | watchy | whats up with all the new .jpgs in the polycom firmware? |
| 23:56.11 | LeddyHM | are they good? |
| 23:56.27 | watchy | they are gay, i'm wondering what they are for |
| 23:56.30 | watchy | i guess 670s |
| 23:57.07 | watchy | if so i'll make a .jpg of the schools logo and have it on the background of every phone |
| 23:57.13 | LeddyHM | we ended up putting our logo on the screen |
| 23:57.20 | watchy | what model of phone? |
| 23:57.23 | LeddyHM | came out pretty good |
| 23:57.36 | LeddyHM | the 501 I mentioned 7 minutes ago :) |
| 23:57.38 | watchy | i've only done it on a old cisco 7960g |
| 23:57.45 | watchy | oh hell i didnt knowe you could do it on a 501 |
| 23:58.15 | watchy | what format does it have to be in? |
| 23:58.27 | LeddyHM | picky |
| 23:58.34 | LeddyHM | it's on a website let me find it |
| 23:59.12 | watchy | hey tk: do you edit sip.cfg or make your own cfg with all the clients settings? |
