| 00:00.22 | beek | [TK]D-Fender: "boot to the head?" |
| 00:00.46 | [TK]D-Fender | beek: Thai Kwon Leap indeed |
| 00:00.55 | [TK]D-Fender | THUMP |
| 00:02.15 | beek | The big thrill today was installing a PAP2T at one of our radio tower sites for use as a phone patch. Damned telco is charging us $65/mo for the line and long distance and I have a perfectly good 18Mbps downlink over RF to my office, so... |
| 00:02.43 | beek | Another site has two lines so another PAP2T to go up there next week. |
| 00:02.59 | [TK]D-Fender | beek: Overkill much? |
| 00:03.20 | beek | Which part? |
| 00:03.43 | [TK]D-Fender | beek: All that comm gear for 2 stupid ATAs :p |
| 00:04.19 | beek | It's used for other things -- like our RF WAN tying together substations over eight counties. |
| 00:04.26 | beek | The phone patches are used by our linemen. |
| 00:04.39 | *** part/#asterisk stencil (n=stencil@unaffiliated/stencil) |
| 00:04.55 | beek | I figured the infrastructure is there and I have that nice, shiny, new * box here so... |
| 00:05.41 | *** join/#asterisk swiftkick (n=Miranda@173.110.182.199) |
| 00:05.50 | beek | [TK]D-Fender: but you know what -- given the grief that the telco has given me over the last few weeks I'd be tempted to install an RF WAN just to spite them! |
| 00:05.53 | [TK]D-Fender | \o/ fondue fuel lasted EXACTLY till the end of the pot! |
| 00:06.56 | beek | That's planning... |
| 00:07.07 | beek | (you enlisted your logistics manager, didn't you?) |
| 00:07.23 | [TK]D-Fender | beek: Nope, pure luck... |
| 00:07.37 | [TK]D-Fender | Jeff's nuts roasting on an open fire! |
| 00:07.45 | [TK]D-Fender | carols |
| 00:08.01 | [TK]D-Fender | (name changed to protect the identity of the GUILTY) |
| 00:09.42 | *** join/#asterisk codefreeze-lap (n=murf@72.21.67.40) |
| 00:11.43 | terr_ | [TK]D-Fender: I presume asterisk will tell the script what phone number the fax came in on? (I'm being pedantic) |
| 00:11.44 | terr_ | [TK]D-Fender: what of access from the public dial networks? |
| 00:11.44 | [TK]D-Fender | terr_: You are. Yes, the callerid is known. |
| 00:11.44 | [TK]D-Fender | terr_: Whatever access you set up. |
| 00:11.46 | terr_ | [TK]D-Fender: perfect... that was the tid bit I was looking for |
| 00:12.12 | terr_ | [TK]D-Fender: how do I set up access? partial T1? orr is this already typically set up? |
| 00:13.13 | [TK]D-Fender | terr_: Whatever access you set up. <- |
| 00:13.47 | [TK]D-Fender | terr_: Already set up? You mean is someone running a datacenter with a preconfigured server ready to hand to you? |
| 00:14.14 | [TK]D-Fender | calls up the Telco Faerie.... |
| 00:14.22 | [TK]D-Fender | DAMMIT, busy again! |
| 00:17.23 | unpaidbill | if you get through tell them to fix t38 |
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| 00:41.06 | cvnet | i changed the port to 1000, and configured the firewall, but no matter what I do I can not register the softphone, no attempts shows on CLI |
| 00:41.30 | *** join/#asterisk Defraz (n=T0tal@gump.fuzecore.com) |
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| 00:44.01 | terr_ | [TK]D-Fender: I have different purposes - one will be to accept faxes from difference centers at least around North America so yes I'm wondering if data centers are set up already |
| 00:45.20 | eppigy | man |
| 00:45.35 | [TK]D-Fender | terr_: No, datacenters do not exist. |
| 00:45.45 | [TK]D-Fender | terr_: You cannot possible rent rack space. |
| 00:45.50 | terr_ | [TK]D-Fender: I know they exist for skype |
| 00:46.04 | [TK]D-Fender | terr_: Or gain whatever telcom connectivity you feel like paying for |
| 00:46.19 | [TK]D-Fender | Skype. |
| 00:46.22 | [TK]D-Fender | Skype............... |
| 00:46.26 | [TK]D-Fender | Skype................................. |
| 00:46.34 | terr_ | [TK]D-Fender: they also exist for jajah |
| 00:46.40 | eppigy | Mythbusters: COLOCATION FACILITIES |
| 00:46.46 | *** join/#asterisk asteriskmonkey (n=philip@69.77.169.14) |
| 00:47.01 | [TK]D-Fender | dumbass factor has just multipled THOUSANDFOLD. |
| 00:47.12 | [TK]D-Fender | terr_: Go hire a consultant. |
| 00:47.15 | [TK]D-Fender | terr_: Now. |
| 00:47.16 | terr_ | hmm - maybe I can do this through ISP's |
| 00:47.17 | asteriskmonkey | lol |
| 00:47.25 | [TK]D-Fender | terr_: You clearly have no clue about tech whatsoever. |
| 00:47.27 | terr_ | [TK]D-Fender: actually I'll do that. |
| 00:47.38 | eppigy | you dont even know what DNIS is |
| 00:47.43 | eppigy | seek professional help |
| 00:47.46 | asteriskmonkey | anyone done scaling tests with asterisk 1.6 yet? |
| 00:47.56 | eppigy | shell out those dollarz |
| 00:48.01 | *** join/#asterisk Sargun (n=Sargun@2001:5a8:4:2cb0:213:2ff:fe28:a16a) |
| 00:48.03 | Sargun | Hey. |
| 00:48.08 | [TK]D-Fender | asteriskmonkey: Yes.... it cooks much better with the skin on and with a little butter :p |
| 00:48.09 | terr_ | [TK]D-Fender: just because I have not used asterisk does not mean I don't know network programming. :-) |
| 00:48.29 | asteriskmonkey | i though networks where designed not programmed |
| 00:48.32 | asteriskmonkey | :p |
| 00:48.36 | eppigy | terr_: but you are not familiar with basic concepts such as dnis |
| 00:48.41 | [TK]D-Fender | terr_: You don't even understand the concept that yes you can rent a friggen server and get T1's or WHATEVER TH #$^% YOU WANT connected to it. |
| 00:48.45 | terr_ | asteriskmonkey: they are both... |
| 00:48.46 | eppigy | i mean you need to knmow these things |
| 00:48.49 | Sargun | Anyone know how to get SS7 access for the poor man? I'm mostly curious about some stuff, and I've heard some SIP (or VoIP) providers allow certain SS7 access. |
| 00:48.54 | Sargun | Deos anone know about this? |
| 00:49.14 | [TK]D-Fender | Sargun: chan_ss7 is more solid in 1.6 go read up |
| 00:49.17 | asteriskmonkey | anyone test 1.6 with 400+ users yet? |
| 00:49.26 | terr_ | why would I want to use particial T1? that is typically $40 per month per DS0 |
| 00:49.31 | eppigy | terr_: you should know what a damn leasedline is then |
| 00:49.36 | Sargun | [TK]D-Fender, I know about utilizing SS7, just getting an SS7 link is the hard part... |
| 00:49.49 | eppigy | well use whatever the hell you want |
| 00:49.51 | [TK]D-Fender | terr_Who said anything about a partial T1? |
| 00:49.56 | eppigy | 4rl |
| 00:50.05 | asteriskmonkey | Sargun ss7 support has been built into dahdi, you just need the support libraries |
| 00:50.23 | terr_ | eppigy: I've been running servers since 1998.. I know what leased lines are. What I don't know is what infrastructure might already be set up with asterisk and the reason is because I haven't needed to know this |
| 00:50.39 | cvnet | if u use different port for sip than 5060 do you have to change anything in any other file but sip.conf ? |
| 00:50.51 | Sargun | I don't believe you understood my question, I was rather wondering on how to get an SS7 link, or does anyone know of any VoIP providers who give an SS7 over SIP "proxy" |
| 00:50.58 | [TK]D-Fender | cvnet: Gee, I don't know... maybe ROUTING? |
| 00:51.21 | [TK]D-Fender | Sargun: * does not support SS7 over anything but DAHDI channels |
| 00:51.31 | cvnet | what you mean routing? i turned the firewall off and still no good |
| 00:51.41 | eppigy | terr_: what infrastructure? |
| 00:51.47 | [TK]D-Fender | cvnet: And what does that useless description tell us? |
| 00:52.10 | cvnet | let me do some readin |
| 00:52.14 | [TK]D-Fender | terr_: You keep talking like there is a server out there with your name magically on it allready bloody well connected/ |
| 00:52.31 | terr_ | eppigy: like an ISP who has POTs phone numbers which can be rented. |
| 00:52.44 | eppigy | well that is not asterisk infrastructure |
| 00:52.58 | [TK]D-Fender | terr_: Your ISP doesn't have to have the numbers. |
| 00:53.05 | terr_ | eppigy: nope - but it might be something that we can piggy back asterisk onto |
| 00:53.09 | [TK]D-Fender | terr_: they just have to arrive at your server |
| 00:53.19 | terr_ | [TK]D-Fender: I'll phone them tomorrow actually |
| 00:53.23 | eppigy | yes |
| 00:53.31 | eppigy | speek to a sales representative |
| 00:53.50 | eppigy | BEEN RUNNIN SERVERS SINCE 98 |
| 00:53.51 | [TK]D-Fender | "Hi, I'm Dave, and I'll be your Time/Life operator...." |
| 00:53.59 | terr_ | [TK]D-Fender: for part of what I'm looking for I only need one number... |
| 00:53.59 | eppigy | YES |
| 00:54.11 | terr_ | I can start there... the remote will be easy to handle |
| 00:54.13 | eppigy | i see form your questionaire you have been running servers since 98 |
| 00:54.16 | eppigy | from |
| 00:54.30 | [TK]D-Fender | terr_: And what difference is there between 1 and a hundred? (other than 99 + possibly some cost) |
| 00:54.34 | eppigy | terr_: just get a bri |
| 00:54.36 | eppigy | then |
| 00:54.49 | terr_ | eppigy: a bri is costly. |
| 00:55.00 | eppigy | well how many consecutive calls |
| 00:55.01 | Sargun | [TK]D-Fender, I can't afford to get an SS7 feed from my telco (AT&T) or verisign, I was wondering if you know any SIP providers who do SS7 proxies, or any other ways to get SS7 access? |
| 00:55.03 | [TK]D-Fender | eppigy: Poor suggestion |
| 00:55.06 | eppigy | do you nee dot be able to make |
| 00:55.20 | eppigy | [TK]D-Fender: hey ive been runnin servers since 98 |
| 00:55.22 | eppigy | dont hate |
| 00:55.26 | [TK]D-Fender | eppigy: You are mixing DID's with a specific MEDIA. SILLY MISTAKE |
| 00:55.29 | asteriskmonkey | why the f*** do people want ss7 links, seriously unless you pushing 1000's of channels stick in pri land :P |
| 00:55.38 | eppigy | listen |
| 00:55.43 | eppigy | he is talking about phone numbers |
| 00:55.45 | Sargun | asteriskmonkey, Learning mostly. |
| 00:55.49 | Kobaz | [Dec 29 19:52:20] NOTICE[7633]: res_odbc.c:727 load_module: res_odbc loaded. |
| 00:55.50 | Kobaz | ....Segmentation fault |
| 00:55.51 | Kobaz | ack |
| 00:55.52 | asteriskmonkey | ah well in that case |
| 00:55.55 | eppigy | i assumed he has no idea what hes talkin about |
| 00:56.05 | [TK]D-Fender | eppigy: Yes, and phone numbers can be delivered 15 million ways and your first suggestion is **BRI** |
| 00:56.09 | eppigy | yes |
| 00:56.14 | Sargun | Kobaz, ACK! Well, don't load res_odbc? |
| 00:56.19 | eppigy | well what the hell does he want |
| 00:56.21 | [TK]D-Fender | eppigy: CRAPTASTIC. |
| 00:56.23 | asteriskmonkey | use the Sa**** < name that can not be named in digium channles, driver set, its free and has ss7 routing stuff |
| 00:56.28 | eppigy | 8[] |
| 00:56.36 | [TK]D-Fender | eppigy: You don't know? What kind of guidance are you giving them? :p |
| 00:56.38 | seanbright | Sangoma |
| 00:56.41 | [TK]D-Fender | then* |
| 00:56.45 | eppigy | none |
| 00:56.49 | eppigy | I am here to lol |
| 00:56.51 | Kobaz | Sargun: i need odbc, heh |
| 00:57.00 | Kobaz | Sargun: i think it's dieing from the result of a query |
| 00:57.10 | Sargun | Kobaz, strace is your friend. |
| 00:57.11 | eppigy | no but seriously i asked him how many consecutive calls he wnted to make |
| 00:57.12 | Kobaz | yeah |
| 00:57.16 | seanbright | strace won't help |
| 00:57.19 | eppigy | i am trying to get answers here |
| 00:57.20 | seanbright | run it under gdb |
| 00:57.26 | eppigy | i am digging for a deeper truth |
| 00:57.29 | Kobaz | seanbright: strace is sometimes quite useful |
| 00:57.30 | Kobaz | hehe |
| 00:57.31 | [TK]D-Fender | eppigy: Doesn't matter since he has no clue about anything else so why get specific now? |
| 00:57.35 | Sargun | asteriskmonkey, So, setting up my own private SS7 network is the best choice in your opinion? |
| 00:57.42 | eppigy | well i am trying to guide him |
| 00:57.46 | seanbright | Kobaz: for small, non-threaded apps, yes. |
| 00:57.52 | seanbright | Kobaz: compile with DONT_OPTIMIZE |
| 00:57.53 | eppigy | and lol at his ridiculous answers |
| 00:57.54 | *** join/#asterisk WilliamK (n=noc@static-71-170-144-28.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) |
| 00:58.00 | eppigy | simultaneously |
| 00:58.00 | seanbright | Kobaz: run under gdb |
| 00:58.02 | [TK]D-Fender | eppigy: The blind leading the blank..... cliff this way ----> |
| 00:58.05 | seanbright | get a backtrace |
| 00:58.07 | Kobaz | seanbright: you can strace threaded apps |
| 00:58.10 | Kobaz | yeah |
| 00:58.11 | eppigy | dang bro |
| 00:58.12 | Kobaz | working on it |
| 00:58.29 | Kobaz | hmm |
| 00:58.32 | asteriskmonkey | sargun : no, there are better choices for private networks than ss7, ss7 if you have shitloads of channels and need to connect right into that big cloud and do dirty call stealing, hair pin in transit routing etc... |
| 00:58.35 | Kobaz | it's not dumping core |
| 00:58.52 | seanbright | problem solve |
| 00:58.55 | seanbright | solved |
| 00:58.57 | Sargun | Kobaz, ulimit -c unlimited? |
| 00:59.00 | seanbright | just run under gdb in production |
| 00:59.02 | seanbright | heh |
| 00:59.04 | Kobaz | Sargun: yeap |
| 00:59.11 | Kobaz | no more |
| 00:59.12 | Kobaz | no core |
| 00:59.21 | seanbright | no lore |
| 00:59.59 | Kobaz | no fore |
| 01:00.44 | Sargun | asteriskmonkey, Again, I want to learn SS7.... I "learned BGP" by initially setting up a private BGP network, and then got a BGP feed for a few hundred dollars a month |
| 01:01.11 | Sargun | What's the alternative for telephone systems? |
| 01:01.28 | terr_ | Sargun: how many phone numbers on that? (I have not actually done any research in even what the term means) |
| 01:01.40 | Sargun | phone numbers on what? |
| 01:01.42 | [TK]D-Fender | Sargun: Well chan_sip does not support SS7. Feel free to go code it |
| 01:01.48 | asteriskmonkey | you dont get BGP feeds damn it, you have swiped ip blocks and bgp routable neibours/peers |
| 01:01.51 | Kobaz | Sargun: the internet? |
| 01:01.56 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: Where are you? |
| 01:02.05 | Sargun | Kobaz, Who knows? |
| 01:02.09 | [TK]D-Fender | pings teh intarwebs |
| 01:02.16 | Kobaz | i think the interwebs is a good alternatice of phone systems |
| 01:02.20 | terr_ | Sargun: BGP |
| 01:02.32 | Kobaz | alternative |
| 01:02.35 | eppigy | lol |
| 01:02.36 | Sargun | terr_, BGP has absolutely nothing to do with Phone systems.... |
| 01:02.42 | Sargun | Well, not nothing, but little. |
| 01:03.01 | terr_ | Sargun: oh... here we have DSL, cable and partical T1 and above that we are in fiber |
| 01:03.07 | eppigy | terr_: you need to up your network knowledge |
| 01:03.16 | eppigy | terr_: BGP is a routing protocol |
| 01:03.17 | asteriskmonkey | BGP is a free routing protocal, you need your own ips or a swiped block and an as number (which i think is like 100$ a year now) |
| 01:03.18 | Sargun | [TK]D-Fender, I know, but I was dealing with SIP providers, who "proxied" SS7 requests, They would marshal them, and send them over the wire... but they seem to have gone out of business. |
| 01:03.19 | Kobaz | [TK]D-Fender: i compiled with no optimize and still no core |
| 01:03.31 | cvnet | when you register your softphone (sip) do you use stun or sip to register to server? |
| 01:03.43 | [TK]D-Fender | Sargun: THEY may do it, but any special signally will not be handled by chan_sip. |
| 01:03.45 | Sargun | asteriskmonkey, You don't need a swiped block. You can do it with just an ASN... |
| 01:03.52 | Sargun | [TK]D-Fender, True. |
| 01:03.55 | terr_ | Sargun: this is for data connections... our phone runs analogue into DS0 which is mutilplexed typically and eventually runs ATM between the switches |
| 01:04.07 | [TK]D-Fender | cvnet: stun has nothing to do with registration |
| 01:04.23 | Kobaz | seanbright: i'm tracking down the problem |
| 01:04.26 | terr_ | asteriskmonkey: Ah... I just run static IP |
| 01:04.27 | terr_ | 's |
| 01:04.32 | terr_ | does what I need. |
| 01:04.51 | cvnet | on server i set up the port o 5060 and on my softphone i have sip set to port 1000, and i still can register, however when i changed the servers Port I can not register |
| 01:04.53 | Kobaz | seanbright: i'm using odbc extconfig for extensions.conf realtime static... i'm getting nulls in the query to return the extensions conf |
| 01:05.03 | Kobaz | seanbright: and it's crashing the module |
| 01:05.13 | Kobaz | i need to fix my query |
| 01:05.20 | Sargun | [TK]D-Fender, So ya think my only choice is getting an SS7 feed from a large company who charges me in the area of thousands of dollars a month? |
| 01:05.46 | [TK]D-Fender | Sargun: No I think you have all sorts of choices and you are tragically myopic :) |
| 01:05.46 | Kobaz | 1.4.22 |
| 01:05.47 | Sargun | SS7 Feed = SS7 Link. |
| 01:06.12 | coppice | an SS7 feed will teach you almost nothing |
| 01:06.14 | asteriskmonkey | just get a couple sangoma ds3 cards and setup a few a links for testing at home |
| 01:06.18 | terr_ | Sargun: I can't help you - but I would like to know what problem you are trying to solve... |
| 01:06.30 | Sargun | terr_, I don't have a problem, at least not yet. |
| 01:06.38 | asteriskmonkey | tdmoe for the win |
| 01:06.40 | Sargun | asteriskmonkey, That doesn't sound too bad. |
| 01:06.43 | [TK]D-Fender | cvnet: "change the port... tells us little and no, I don't trust your configs or your firewall, you're not showing any debug. |
| 01:06.44 | terr_ | Sargun: what are you trying to investigate then? |
| 01:06.50 | [TK]D-Fender | cvnet: looad chan_clue.so |
| 01:07.15 | Sargun | terr_, Mostly just "how SS7 works" |
| 01:07.21 | [TK]D-Fender | asteriskmonkey: You should have seen the tard coming in wasting time on that crap about a month ago... |
| 01:07.23 | Sargun | terr_, What can I do with it? Etc.. |
| 01:07.37 | terr_ | Sargun: what is it suppose to do for us? |
| 01:07.48 | asteriskmonkey | [TK]D-Fender: lol ive not seen people been ripped up in here in ages :) |
| 01:07.50 | Sargun | terr_, for you guys? Nothing really... |
| 01:08.08 | [TK]D-Fender | asteriskmonkey: Get some scroll-back, the last 2 hours have been EPIC |
| 01:08.24 | coppice | Sargun: SS7 is a big pile of specs, and any one installation only ever uses a small part of that pile. therefore any one installation teaches you nothing more than the basics |
| 01:08.44 | asteriskmonkey | i only came in at 7.46pm (-5gmt) :( |
| 01:09.01 | *** join/#asterisk mercutioviz (n=chatzill@freeswitch/developer/msc) |
| 01:09.13 | asteriskmonkey | if your looking for a good way to handle failover its called a dialplan :) |
| 01:09.20 | Sargun | coppice, Ah great, so my only way to learn is read, and cross my fingers that I actually understand what the hell it's talking about. |
| 01:09.33 | Sargun | asteriskmonkey, My current SIP provider does failover. :-) |
| 01:10.08 | coppice | Sargun: there are people who run courses, where you can get to play with a variety of test setups |
| 01:10.12 | terr_ | Sargun: looks like if you have SS7 and a proper pipe you can be a telephone company |
| 01:10.38 | Sargun | terr_, To get a "proper" SS7 connection, it's fairly pricey. |
| 01:10.41 | asteriskmonkey | i like building asterisk head ends out of solid state systems :) i find they last forever |
| 01:11.01 | Sargun | asteriskmonkey, nearly forever... |
| 01:11.02 | asteriskmonkey | solid state= no fans, no spinning hard drives, no moving parts |
| 01:11.14 | terr_ | Sargun: I expect it would be... and the pipe will cost too... |
| 01:11.18 | [TK]D-Fender | asteriskmonkey: http://pastebin.com/m553c2913 |
| 01:11.25 | [TK]D-Fender | asteriskmonkey: Just start at the all-caps :) |
| 01:11.44 | Sargun | The best way would be to get it from verisign I think |
| 01:12.02 | Qwell | verisign? |
| 01:12.19 | terr_ | asteriskmonkey: can you recomend a manufacturer? |
| 01:12.23 | asteriskmonkey | [TK]D-Fender : thanks |
| 01:12.25 | [TK]D-Fender | Sargun: What's to learn when so little is used? Just like every schmuck who "learns" zaptel by buying a crappy X100P and configures 8 lines in Zaptel. Whoopdeefriggendoo. |
| 01:12.53 | Sargun | Qwell, Verisign sells SS7 connectivity. |
| 01:13.10 | [TK]D-Fender | Sargun: What do you think you're going to LEARN? Like PRI... 1 span line! YAY! LIke that matters... doesn't teach you anything more than 5 parms maye in zapata(etc). |
| 01:13.12 | asteriskmonkey | terr_: to be a greedy bastard i build them, but if you have the knowledge....there are many good embedded platform choices out there, you need to know intamitly though what you need to do :) |
| 01:13.14 | Sargun | Qwell, They seem to control a little bit of everything: DNS, the phone system, etc.. |
| 01:14.08 | asteriskmonkey | pcengines makes a decent board for embedded work, stay away from linux+asterisk though, bsd+asterisk tends to shovel a ton more calls and i can squeeze the os+asterisk down into a 12meg footprint |
| 01:14.08 | terr_ | asteriskmonkey: I've been looking into these solutions... can we go private? |
| 01:14.26 | Sargun | [TK]D-Fender, So, what do most carriers do now for failover, and other interesting things like that? |
| 01:14.32 | [TK]D-Fender | asteriskmonkey: ITS A TRAP!!!!! </akbar> |
| 01:14.39 | terr_ | asteriskmonkey: /join #asteriskmonkey |
| 01:14.46 | asteriskmonkey | gah |
| 01:14.49 | [TK]D-Fender | Sargun: What do carriers have to do with *? |
| 01:14.53 | Sargun | asteriskmonkey, have you tried any SSDs? |
| 01:14.59 | asteriskmonkey | youll have to learn irc first lol |
| 01:15.00 | asteriskmonkey | yes |
| 01:15.08 | asteriskmonkey | Im using the Partiot ssd in my laptop |
| 01:15.18 | asteriskmonkey | for my embedded systems though there all CF SSD based |
| 01:15.40 | *** part/#asterisk davidc (n=david@netman1.us.sargasso.net) |
| 01:15.56 | asteriskmonkey | dont buy the new sandisk mark IV cfs there garbage and only have 12month warranty |
| 01:16.16 | Sargun | asteriskmonkey, We use Soekrises at work for VPN endpoints |
| 01:16.42 | Sargun | They run OSPF, OpenVPN (with Geode acceleration), and a netflow logger |
| 01:17.01 | asteriskmonkey | yes youll kick yoursell in the nuts when i tell you the pcengines is cheaper and has a aes accelerator on it :) |
| 01:17.18 | asteriskmonkey | ah yes |
| 01:17.28 | asteriskmonkey | the geode, LX series aswell then for the sokries |
| 01:17.48 | asteriskmonkey | that means it has that accelarator in it, Freebsd finally came out with the code in 7.x to make it work :P |
| 01:17.59 | Sargun | asteriskmonkey, The Geode has an accelerator on it too. |
| 01:18.12 | Sargun | asteriskmonkey, We tried PC Engines, and just weren't successful with them. |
| 01:18.14 | asteriskmonkey | its the same chip sargun im refereing too |
| 01:18.24 | terr_ | Sargun: I've looked at Soekris... not bad.. will do what I want for the f/w (I run openbsd adn they are set up for this)... as for the web servers using something like a thecus N2100 looks ok... |
| 01:18.26 | asteriskmonkey | what you running |
| 01:18.54 | asteriskmonkey | i used the pcengines 2d3's with FreeBSD they are bad ass |
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| 01:19.12 | terr_ | asteriskmonkey: are you US? What price can you supply them at? |
| 01:19.20 | asteriskmonkey | im in canada |
| 01:19.33 | asteriskmonkey | i sell my firewalls and asterisk boxes for 499$ cad :) |
| 01:19.48 | terr_ | asteriskmonkey: I'm in calgary - you? |
| 01:19.55 | asteriskmonkey | ontario |
| 01:19.57 | asteriskmonkey | toronto |
| 01:20.11 | terr_ | asteriskmonkey: hmm - I can get a thecus for less. |
| 01:20.14 | Sargun | asteriskmonkey, Ah... Also, the Soekris would give us some ability to expand. They have GPIOs we can put out to an LCD display. |
| 01:20.54 | terr_ | asteriskmonkey: you might have a lot more h/w in your system of course. |
| 01:21.02 | asteriskmonkey | i opted out for that, i went for small low power and straight to function only. |
| 01:21.22 | asteriskmonkey | terr_? what are you smoking |
| 01:21.42 | asteriskmonkey | here let me demonstrate why people should use embedded vs a pc |
| 01:21.48 | [TK]D-Fender | asteriskmonkey: Read the PB for a clue ;) |
| 01:22.43 | terr_ | asteriskmonkey: what kind of quantities can you supply and what price points can you meet for quantity? |
| 01:23.08 | asteriskmonkey | in canada a kw of electricy where i am costs 79cents a kw/hr the average peice of crap pc server can run you 2k a year in power costs vs an embedded system running you 8$ |
| 01:23.40 | asteriskmonkey | i dont do quantity its 499 if you buy 1, its 499 if you buy 100, it your a twit its 1999.99 |
| 01:23.42 | terr_ | asteriskmonkey: here in calgary its just under 10 cents per kWh |
| 01:24.10 | asteriskmonkey | thats so not fair, darn oil dollars |
| 01:24.24 | terr_ | asteriskmonkey: have you looked at the price recently? |
| 01:24.38 | terr_ | its the darm nukes you guys have which we don't have |
| 01:24.54 | asteriskmonkey | so why is your juice cheaper/ |
| 01:25.06 | Sargun | asteriskmonkey, Not only that, idiot end users are less likely to touch things that are tiny, and don't look like a normal PC. |
| 01:25.08 | terr_ | asteriskmonkey: taxes? |
| 01:25.39 | terr_ | asteriskmonkey: at 79c / kWh my power bill would be about $1500 per month. |
| 01:26.14 | terr_ | Sargun: you got that right. |
| 01:27.56 | Sargun | our Asterisk boxes are all PCs... We tried to run them on these small boxes, they crapped out at less than 10 calls (We do do media manipulation on these) |
| 01:28.22 | Sargun | Our over-the-internet codec = GSM, and our over-the-lan codec = ULAW. |
| 01:28.52 | asteriskmonkey | 722 ftw |
| 01:29.33 | Sargun | asteriskmonkey, What phone(s) do you use? |
| 01:30.25 | asteriskmonkey | polycom and aastra, i wont touch anything else |
| 01:30.33 | asteriskmonkey | unless of course its given to me for free |
| 01:30.58 | [TK]D-Fender | Aastra "means well"..... |
| 01:31.21 | Sargun | I haven't touched Aastra. |
| 01:31.23 | Sargun | yet. |
| 01:31.28 | Sargun | No real reason to. |
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| 01:32.13 | Sargun | I like polycom, but we have to deal with soft phones too. I hate soft phones. |
| 01:32.14 | mercutioviz | Hands off my Aastra |
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| 01:34.03 | terr_ | Sargun: by a soft phone do you mean a mike and ear jacks connected via a sound card on the desktop? |
| 01:34.43 | Sargun | terr_, yes. |
| 01:34.57 | Sargun | terr_, Ghetto, I know. |
| 01:35.27 | Sargun | terr_, We haven't found any decent ones, especially ones that do IAX, do you know of any? |
| 01:35.38 | [TK]D-Fender | Sargun: Does not exist |
| 01:35.49 | Sargun | haha. |
| 01:35.51 | terr_ | Sargun: thanks... thought so... I would think they might be ok for some applications... Some should be available with a decent headset... |
| 01:36.01 | Sargun | DNE. Makes me think of calculus again. |
| 01:36.19 | Sargun | [TK]D-Fender, What about decent soft phone? |
| 01:36.38 | [TK]D-Fender | Sargun: A contradiction in terms, but eyeBeam is as close as you get |
| 01:36.42 | asteriskmonkey | SOFT PHONES SUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK |
| 01:36.48 | terr_ | Sargun: only ones that looked even remotely decent were some that IBM was pushing with Voice Type Dictation... and I did buy the kit and lent it to a friend and never saw iu again. They lost it. |
| 01:36.48 | Sargun | Whoa. |
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| 01:38.25 | terr_ | Sargun: what voltages do real phones run at? Can the be interfaced to a sound card? |
| 01:39.26 | terr_ | A friend of mine is an electronics engineer - he's built cards for me before.. and probably would be able to handle it. |
| 01:40.02 | [TK]D-Fender | terr_>Sargun: what voltages do real phones run at? Can the be interfaced to a sound card? <--- Oh. My Fucking Gog |
| 01:40.06 | [TK]D-Fender | God even |
| 01:40.52 | terr_ | Sargun: a good quality headset might do the trick... it provides analogue both ways to the phone it plugs in to. |
| 01:41.09 | [TK]D-Fender | terr_: Like Mitnik, you should not be allowed within 10' of any telecom gear.... for THEIR PROTECTION |
| 01:41.11 | Sargun | the headsets we have are nice (in the $100+ range) |
| 01:41.50 | [TK]D-Fender | .... |
| 01:41.58 | swiftkick | LOL @ mitnik reference |
| 01:42.01 | [TK]D-Fender | $100 headsets to use a SOFT-PHONE! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 01:42.03 | Sargun | http://www.digium.com/en/products/analog/ |
| 01:42.11 | terr_ | [TK]D-Fender: LOL>.. funny. As I recall Mitnik knew a few things Sun didn't know... and one is how to walk tghrough their systems! |
| 01:42.12 | [TK]D-Fender | schmuck++ |
| 01:42.32 | swiftkick | the closest I came to meeting Kevin Mitnick would be... meeting Sarlo. |
| 01:42.32 | terr_ | [TK]D-Fender: it would cost more to interface them too. |
| 01:42.43 | terr_ | not cheap |
| 01:43.01 | [TK]D-Fender | terr_: what would cost what? |
| 01:43.13 | [TK]D-Fender | terr_: NOUNS dammit, we call them NOUNS. |
| 01:43.27 | terr_ | [TK]D-Fender: the design work for the cards I had built wwere well into the $1000's |
| 01:43.30 | Sargun | [TK]D-Fender, What's your job? |
| 01:43.57 | [TK]D-Fender | terr_: Cards? I'm sorry, could you be a little more generic please? I have an impression of a PCB... |
| 01:44.11 | [TK]D-Fender | Sargun: I am the hear of IT for my company and an * consultant |
| 01:44.20 | [TK]D-Fender | head* |
| 01:44.23 | terr_ | [TK]D-Fender: was just a PCB. But he has done PCI bus as well |
| 01:44.33 | Sargun | [TK]D-Fender, I assume you've heard how business people cry when they get a little bit of noise on their headset? |
| 01:44.40 | [TK]D-Fender | terr_: Do you realize that you are not one ounce clearer? |
| 01:44.47 | Sargun | [TK]D-Fender, because their Laptop's audio system is complete crap. |
| 01:45.10 | [TK]D-Fender | Sargun: No, I buy QUALITY products and don't deal with bullshit. Do it right the FIRST TIME |
| 01:45.30 | Sargun | [TK]D-Fender, I like money, I deal with bullshit... |
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| 01:45.45 | terr_ | [TK]D-Fender: it was a stand alone PCB - had a micro processor and a led and AD and that was about it. |
| 01:45.49 | [TK]D-Fender | Sargun: You spend it coddling to stupid infrastruction decisions. |
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| 01:46.09 | [TK]D-Fender | Sargun: Choose soft-phones and spend forever trying to patch the holes you are making. |
| 01:46.11 | Sargun | [TK]D-Fender, How would you do "Secure calling" |
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| 01:46.19 | [TK]D-Fender | Sargun: Welcome to Joe's House Of Cards |
| 01:46.24 | Sargun | [TK]D-Fender, from the field? |
| 01:46.37 | asteriskmonkey | sting and tin cups for the win |
| 01:46.41 | jaytee | so how many milliCochrans output do I need on these dilithium flux coils to generate a warp field again? |
| 01:46.42 | asteriskmonkey | string |
| 01:46.46 | asteriskmonkey | its hardcore secure |
| 01:47.43 | asteriskmonkey | you can even build your own fxs bank, out of string |
| 01:47.45 | Sargun | asteriskmonkey, man, that's untappable. |
| 01:47.52 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: About 1500, but you need at least 3 levels of EPS relay-redundancy and a BIG plasma injector |
| 01:48.27 | jaytee | the 3M brand Triple-DES encrypted twine is much better, more secure but slightly pricier. |
| 01:48.31 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: I'm givin'er all I gots cap'n, and a whee bit moooooooooooore" |
| 01:48.41 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender, lol |
| 01:48.54 | drmessano | hmmm |
| 01:49.13 | jaytee | things that make ya go hmmmm |
| 01:49.30 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: .... |
| 01:49.36 | [TK]D-Fender | ~iwmwb |
| 01:49.37 | jbot | I WANT MY WEEKEND BACK! |
| 01:50.01 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: http://pastebin.com/m553c2913 <- fun starts @ 73 |
| 01:50.07 | drmessano | asteriskmonkey: You amuse me. I may kill you last |
| 01:50.27 | Sargun | [TK]D-Fender, anyways, the rest of my job is fairly enjoyable... |
| 01:54.30 | drmessano | lol |
| 01:54.41 | drmessano | <eppigy> i see form your questionaire you have been running servers since 98 <---- nice |
| 01:55.12 | drmessano | Tell me what infrastructure exists for an asterisk please!!! |
| 01:55.39 | drmessano | "Well, we've got them on every telephone now.. look in the bottom left corner" |
| 01:56.00 | drmessano | "Wow, I should be able to write code based on that. Thanks!" |
| 01:56.55 | Sargun | drmessano, huh? |
| 01:57.11 | Sargun | that was the weirdest splurge of somewhat organized words I've heard. |
| 01:57.14 | drmessano | Sargun: Move alone please |
| 01:57.17 | drmessano | Sargun: Move along please |
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| 02:01.42 | drmessano | [TK]D-Fender: I am a developer looking to create a multi-skype, msn, asterisk, MySpace, Facebook, and Twitter Fax Server cloud. If you can tell me what already exists, I can make the code for the rest... |
| 02:01.46 | drmessano | [TK]D-Fender: Go |
| 02:02.08 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: Link the sign!!! |
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| 02:02.38 | drmessano | Thats jaytee's job |
| 02:02.44 | drmessano | jaytee: Where the hell are you? |
| 02:02.47 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: Serv'em! |
| 02:02.48 | drmessano | LINK THE SIGN |
| 02:02.52 | jaytee | just a sec |
| 02:03.21 | jaytee | http://www.osburn.com/asterisk-sign.png |
| 02:03.55 | drmessano | YES YES!! |
| 02:04.13 | NovceGuru | Herro |
| 02:04.22 | drmessano | WHERE DOES SKYPE STORE MY FAXES IN AKERISK |
| 02:04.23 | drmessano | ? |
| 02:04.34 | ricko73 | /dev/null |
| 02:04.35 | jaytee | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:04.38 | jaytee | lol |
| 02:04.39 | drmessano | ---> C:\Fax |
| 02:04.44 | NovceGuru | sill question, what do you guys think of mounting a polycom conference phone on the ceiling? |
| 02:04.47 | NovceGuru | s/sill/silly |
| 02:04.59 | drmessano | NovceGuru: Depends on who is mounting it |
| 02:05.02 | jaytee | the bats will love you for it |
| 02:05.06 | ricko73 | NovceGuru: it's recommended, especially if you know Spider Pig |
| 02:05.07 | drmessano | NovceGuru: Union worker? |
| 02:05.23 | NovceGuru | I need to fall and have an accident installing it, to collect |
| 02:05.27 | jaytee | I once installed a T1 channel bank and router in a bathroom |
| 02:05.42 | joat | what was the router for? |
| 02:05.44 | NovceGuru | haha |
| 02:05.48 | drmessano | Asterisk pig, asterisk pig, mounts a polycom on the ceil-ing... Does he swing from a web, or does he use a poly-com, look out, here comes Asterisk pig... |
| 02:06.14 | ricko73 | and by your router, you meant web cam? |
| 02:06.20 | joat | heh |
| 02:06.27 | jaytee | it was fractional T1 with an add/drop mux, split out some channels for data and some for voice |
| 02:06.31 | NovceGuru | It's actually for a conference room, table in the middle....polished concrete floor...no conduit |
| 02:06.53 | asteriskmonkey | how you plan on dialing it if its on the ceiling? |
| 02:07.16 | jaytee | hire a former NBA player to hang around until needed |
| 02:07.17 | NovceGuru | switchvox software :\ |
| 02:07.19 | drmessano | jaytee is confused. He used to a plumber until he had a bad accident with a dremel and a gravity toilet. |
| 02:07.35 | drmessano | Dont touch the metal plate in his head, it makes him angrish |
| 02:07.41 | Sargun | NovceGuru, that is a silly question. |
| 02:07.49 | joat | yeah, and i used to be a diesel fitter at the garmet factory... |
| 02:08.01 | NovceGuru | Sargun: how come? Seems valid with what I have to work with |
| 02:08.07 | joat | stood at the end of the line and said "yeah, diesel fitter" |
| 02:08.23 | jaytee | I'm serious, it was in a retail store in Farmington, Maine. The demarc was in a "closet" that was 6" deep and nothing would fit so I mounted a shelf on the other side of the closet wall which just happened to be a bathroom. |
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| 02:08.37 | Sargun | NovceGuru, why not put it on the table, and string a wire from the ceiling |
| 02:08.46 | drmessano | LOL |
| 02:08.49 | drmessano | Thats not tacky |
| 02:08.58 | NovceGuru | aesthetics |
| 02:09.06 | NovceGuru | why not run the wire across the room then? |
| 02:09.14 | NovceGuru | asteriskmonkey: probably an ip7000 |
| 02:09.19 | jaytee | In one retail store in Vermont, Nynex actually installed the demarc for a T1 in the laundromat next door. Took 2 months to get them to move it into the retail location. |
| 02:09.20 | drmessano | Nice wire coming out of a random ceiling tile down to the conference room table |
| 02:09.22 | ricko73 | hang a log chain from the ceiling and weave the cat 5 cable through the holes |
| 02:09.30 | Sargun | NovceGuru, make a nifty conduit from the ceiling, cover it in swirled glass, call it modern art. |
| 02:09.45 | ricko73 | make it look like the table is supported by the chain |
| 02:10.04 | NovceGuru | should probably put 4 chains, one at each corner |
| 02:10.18 | drmessano | Hang a piece of white plumbing PVC from the ceiling taped to the cat5 with "DO NOT LOOK" scrawled on it in red crayon |
| 02:10.20 | NovceGuru | the one in the middle |
| 02:10.22 | drmessano | That should blend in |
| 02:10.42 | NovceGuru | I did actually have a suggestion to put in a huge floor to ceiling fishtank |
| 02:10.45 | jaytee | Panduit makes nice vinyl ceiling to floor or ceiling to counter conduits, you can cut them to custom lengths and they make mounting bases with popout slots for the cables. |
| 02:10.46 | NovceGuru | and SOMEHOW conceal the wires in it |
| 02:11.11 | drmessano | Mount the polycom on the wall and run a mic cord up the wall into the ceiling.. run it across to a tile above the table and mount the mic there on the ceiling |
| 02:11.45 | NovceGuru | drmessano: I did think about doing that, I wonder if the external mics work as well as the polycom ZOMG HD VOICE(R)(TM) hardware |
| 02:12.45 | drmessano | Get a POLYCOM MIC |
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| 02:13.21 | drmessano | "Do they.." <--- YESH |
| 02:13.33 | drmessano | I win |
| 02:13.38 | NovceGuru | unless I'm going to do 4 mics, I assume splurging on the ip7000 would be a waste |
| 02:13.55 | ricko73 | sounds like duct tape already |
| 02:14.03 | drmessano | We're past that |
| 02:14.12 | drmessano | The fucking thing needs to be on the table |
| 02:14.15 | ricko73 | Red-Green would come up with an answer |
| 02:14.18 | drmessano | Anything else is a hack |
| 02:14.35 | drmessano | Drill the concrete and stop acting like a woman |
| 02:14.40 | drmessano | We'll wait.. |
| 02:14.47 | asteriskmonkey | contractors :) |
| 02:16.11 | NovceGuru | yeah, it needs to be on the table |
| 02:16.16 | drmessano | Pretty marble/concrete/wood/polystyrene floors, old fancy woodword, etc are beautiful, but untouched in a space posing as a modern office, these things are less than useless |
| 02:16.22 | drmessano | woodwork* |
| 02:16.39 | drmessano | If you are going to use these spaces, there are expectations that go with them |
| 02:16.51 | NovceGuru | maybe I'll just "store" it on the wall then when they want to use it move it with a nice cable strewn across the floor/table |
| 02:17.03 | NovceGuru | drmessano: well, if conduit would have been ran to the center of the ()$*)#$ room |
| 02:17.06 | drmessano | Drilling a 200 yr old floor may seem like peeing on the constitution, but the space is useless otherwise |
| 02:17.22 | drmessano | Same goes for something "nice" |
| 02:17.35 | jaytee | ok, here goes! http://tinyurl.com/775uuh |
| 02:17.37 | ricko73 | NovceGuru: having the phone on a side table, then moving it when needed could work, but may result in the phone being damaged |
| 02:17.45 | asteriskmonkey | is there a sub floor? usually stuff that old has 4ft subfloors |
| 02:18.40 | NovceGuru | 24" think polished concrete slab :\ |
| 02:18.44 | NovceGuru | ...thick |
| 02:18.55 | drmessano | I dont care how old/nice something is.. One day about 100 years, someone drilled it for power when Edison made that lighty thing that everyone was raving about.. Network is no different. If your boss gives you shit about it, tell him "Go fuck yourself, you bent over for Edison" |
| 02:18.57 | asteriskmonkey | jaytee: thats priceless :) |
| 02:19.00 | drmessano | You go girl |
| 02:19.31 | NovceGuru | jaytee: 120vac...duh |
| 02:19.53 | NovceGuru | mine run 3phase ac |
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| 02:20.20 | drmessano | Delta or Wye? |
| 02:20.21 | jaytee | NovceGuru, well! aren't you special! betcha get all the hot girls. |
| 02:20.37 | NovceGuru | drmessano: yeah I'll figure something about :) |
| 02:21.01 | NovceGuru | bitches be callin me all the time, wanting to come use my 3phase phone |
| 02:21.07 | drmessano | All my phones ryn 3-phase 240vac in a Wye config |
| 02:21.12 | drmessano | run* |
| 02:21.19 | jaytee | "Go fuck yourself, you bent over for Edison" AAAAHHHHAAAAAHAAAAAHAAAA |
| 02:21.23 | drmessano | That way I can tap 208 for my MWI |
| 02:21.29 | jaytee | lol |
| 02:21.39 | jaytee | I got a voicemail and I was blind for 3 days |
| 02:21.42 | drmessano | MY MWI RUNS ON 208, BITCHES |
| 02:21.55 | NovceGuru | sheeeeit |
| 02:21.57 | jaytee | stutter dialtone made my dog deaf!!! |
| 02:22.11 | drmessano | Poor 208.. Its the bastard in every service panel |
| 02:22.24 | drmessano | "Lets see... 120.... 120..... 120... OH FUCK WHO R U?" |
| 02:23.00 | drmessano | "IM 120.. See.. I R COPPER" |
| 02:23.05 | joat | 208 for MWI? my gawd! how many lumens is that? can you look directly at it? |
| 02:23.13 | drmessano | "UH NO.. U R BIGGER AND TAPED DIFFERENT?" |
| 02:23.28 | drmessano | "Nawp.. Plug me in.. we're cool" |
| 02:23.29 | NovceGuru | its 12360 jiggalumens |
| 02:23.36 | jaytee | I can haz lotsa amps? |
| 02:23.48 | drmessano | My hoes hussle me for my 208 |
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| 02:25.12 | asteriskmonkey | i used to dream of using 208, im stuck using 600 :( tri-phase for all my ups's |
| 02:26.07 | drmessano | 600v 3-phase? |
| 02:26.13 | asteriskmonkey | yes |
| 02:26.33 | asteriskmonkey | got some big galaxy ups's have about 900 sqft of batterys |
| 02:26.56 | joat | for an asterisk box? |
| 02:27.03 | joat | wow |
| 02:27.04 | asteriskmonkey | yes my asterisk cluster |
| 02:27.09 | drmessano | You know they make these things called Generators now |
| 02:27.16 | asteriskmonkey | 168k later on a ups and im good for a few years without power |
| 02:27.36 | asteriskmonkey | yes with the rising price of fuel i thought a bigger ups would be cheaper lol |
| 02:27.37 | denon | for 5 years, until the batteries are shot, anyway |
| 02:27.44 | denon | rising cost of fuel? |
| 02:27.48 | denon | on what planet? |
| 02:28.07 | drmessano | UPS = Needs to be good enough to wait for the Generator to start... all 8 seconds |
| 02:28.45 | NovceGuru | drmessano: except in my setup, where they cheaped out and use a portable generator |
| 02:28.56 | drmessano | Yeah, that sounds like ass |
| 02:29.13 | joat | uh, wut? a portable generator to charge 900 sq ft of batteries? |
| 02:29.19 | asteriskmonkey | no not i |
| 02:29.27 | drmessano | With broadcast transmitters, we had no choice.. Generators for the win |
| 02:29.29 | asteriskmonkey | no generators at this facility |
| 02:29.48 | NovceGuru | I'm running 2 RS 1500VA APCs at 15% load |
| 02:29.57 | asteriskmonkey | got generators at the core site with 50,000 gallons of deisel and liquid cooling from a lake |
| 02:29.59 | drmessano | 1500VA? |
| 02:30.04 | NovceGuru | hopefully enough time to get their slow asses to get the generator going |
| 02:30.06 | drmessano | I have two of those at my house |
| 02:30.08 | NovceGuru | drmessano: small office |
| 02:30.20 | NovceGuru | 1 file server, 1 asterisk box |
| 02:30.35 | drmessano | I have like 4 times that at home |
| 02:30.44 | asteriskmonkey | you can always just use a 600va ups and hook up a car battery it works well :) |
| 02:30.49 | drmessano | and a huge.... box of cable |
| 02:31.05 | NovceGuru | asteriskmonkey: yeah, at home thats what I do :) |
| 02:31.16 | drmessano | asteriskmonkey: Sealed Lead Acid.. Car battery is not made for deep discharge |
| 02:31.24 | drmessano | Marine battery works 10x better |
| 02:31.32 | NovceGuru | deep cycle |
| 02:31.39 | asteriskmonkey | i use the spiral cell lead acid much better |
| 02:32.05 | eppigy | i have a 5000va to power my home theater systems allowing me to blear kanye west |
| 02:32.06 | jaytee | guy up in New England ran his house using an inverter and his Prius with 5 gallons of gas for 3 days. |
| 02:32.10 | asteriskmonkey | yes but 600va circuits are tits for charge time it will take 2 weeks to charge a marine battery on that |
| 02:32.42 | drmessano | Well a "Car Battery" generally refers to a traditional car battery which is not made to be discharged in deep cycles..they are designed for short burts of high discharge with charging in between |
| 02:32.42 | asteriskmonkey | prius has like 20k in batteries lol |
| 02:33.09 | asteriskmonkey | temperature also can effect batteries greatly |
| 02:33.31 | NovceGuru | which brings me to another snafu in this setup |
| 02:33.38 | NovceGuru | have to have portable air conditioner in the server room :\ |
| 02:34.04 | drmessano | Portable AC, portable generator.. |
| 02:34.08 | drmessano | Thats not too bad |
| 02:34.10 | denon | vent em outside at least |
| 02:34.18 | eppigy | just have dry ice delivered every tursday |
| 02:34.28 | denon | hah |
| 02:34.28 | denon | nice |
| 02:34.39 | eppigy | be careful staying inside |
| 02:34.40 | drmessano | Sounds like the entire business is portable too.. like, when it fails due to the half ass setup, it will be easy to liquidate for the bankruptcy sale |
| 02:34.41 | NovceGuru | denon: haha I have got them to run me a vent to the outside, instead of in the attic |
| 02:34.42 | *** join/#asterisk freakazoid0223 (n=mattc@68.162.68.37) |
| 02:34.44 | eppigy | with no ventilation though |
| 02:34.54 | drmessano | SO go portable! |
| 02:35.00 | ManxPower | Many marine batteries support deep cycle |
| 02:35.08 | eppigy | avoid the irs and law enforcement |
| 02:35.14 | drmessano | Marine batteries generally _ARE_ deep cycle |
| 02:35.15 | ricko73 | all they need is some fertilizer and the whole place would go boom |
| 02:35.29 | eppigy | hello my data center is currently in a single engine plane |
| 02:35.29 | jaytee | I love that scam video where they guy tries to convince people to go out and buy one of those large dry cell batteries for $7 and cut it open and shows how the battery "holds" 20 AA batteries. :-) |
| 02:35.39 | eppigy | tech support will have to call you back |
| 02:35.42 | asteriskmonkey | has any one gone into a hardware store and asked for a shallow cylce battery lol |
| 02:35.44 | *** part/#asterisk Decepticon (n=Deceptic@ks361773.kimsufi.com) |
| 02:36.03 | jaytee | or a left-handed screwdriver? |
| 02:36.31 | drmessano | I had a marine battery wired to the power supply on my ham radio setup for years |
| 02:36.38 | ManxPower | My father once convinced my uncle to go to the hardware store to buy a High Speed Rope for his lawm mower. |
| 02:36.53 | jaytee | haha |
| 02:37.39 | NovceGuru | eppigy: haha |
| 02:37.56 | NovceGuru | atleast i'm getting some fiber with an sla to deal with :\ |
| 02:37.57 | drmessano | I also keep a hell kit with a Skype phone and a Vista CD in case the Asterisk Cloud goes down |
| 02:38.04 | drmessano | Because then its ON |
| 02:38.37 | NovceGuru | drmessano: psh just fire up 3cx on that vista box and REPLACE your asterisk cloud |
| 02:39.01 | *** join/#asterisk mchou (n=mchou@unaffiliated/mchou) |
| 02:39.19 | eppigy | like charles bronson |
| 02:39.23 | drmessano | I can see it now |
| 02:39.31 | drmessano | Guy breaks into a house |
| 02:39.36 | drmessano | Homeowner wakes up |
| 02:39.38 | ricko73 | ManxPower: we had a relative convinced that her muffler bearings were shot and the blinker fluid was low |
| 02:39.41 | drmessano | Confronts him in the den |
| 02:39.46 | drmessano | Hits the power button on his PC |
| 02:39.54 | drmessano | "AS SOON AS MY PC BOOTS, I AM CALLING 911, ASSHOLE" |
| 02:39.59 | ricko73 | also that she should go to the hardware store to buy a "metric" crescent wrench |
| 02:40.02 | drmessano | Effin Skype |
| 02:40.16 | NovceGuru | drmessano: whats that usb thinger thats been all over the news/tv |
| 02:40.17 | ricko73 | funny part was the first hardware store guy said "well, we had them last week" |
| 02:40.24 | NovceGuru | $9.95/YEAR |
| 02:40.26 | drmessano | MagicJerk |
| 02:40.28 | ricko73 | not sure where they went now |
| 02:40.28 | drmessano | $19.95 |
| 02:40.30 | NovceGuru | ya! |
| 02:40.37 | NovceGuru | imagine how long that company will last |
| 02:40.44 | drmessano | ORDER NOW AND WE'LL THROW IN A SHAMWOW |
| 02:41.00 | ricko73 | just wait til Billy Mays starts pitching for them |
| 02:41.02 | NovceGuru | and a snuggie! |
| 02:41.08 | ricko73 | then they know they've hit the big time |
| 02:41.10 | drmessano | Billy Mays is my damn hero |
| 02:41.15 | thehar | http://bacolicio.us/http://www.asterisk.org << gimme that bacon |
| 02:41.19 | drmessano | Did you see the mini burger maker thing? |
| 02:41.31 | drmessano | Where you can make a "Billy Burger" |
| 02:41.34 | NovceGuru | hahaha YES |
| 02:41.38 | drmessano | That thing OWNS |
| 02:41.41 | NovceGuru | you get a recipe book with his favorites! |
| 02:41.47 | NovceGuru | THE KIDS WILL LOVE EM' |
| 02:41.53 | *** join/#asterisk Hyphenex (n=scott@60-241-147-211.tpgi.com.au) |
| 02:41.54 | drmessano | I saw that on TV last night and yelled to the wife "ORDER THAT FOR ME, NOW" |
| 02:42.07 | Hyphenex | is there a way to trigger the MWI from the console? |
| 02:42.43 | ManxPower | Hyphenex: I believe there are some external mwi options in voicemail.conf |
| 02:42.56 | ManxPower | check /path/to/src/asterisk/doc |
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| 02:43.08 | Hyphenex | ManxPower: thanks |
| 02:43.12 | NovceGuru | drmessano: the shamwow commercial on their website, he demonstrates on a BLACK table |
| 02:43.56 | drmessano | lol |
| 02:44.20 | drmessano | ORDER NOW AND WE'LL DOUBLE YOUR ORDER.. AND SINCE WE'RE ALREADY DOUBLING IT, THATS A DOUBLE DOUBLE |
| 02:44.24 | NovceGuru | wtf and their stupid flash player wont let me replay!??!! |
| 02:44.24 | sosoriri | can i install 4 E1 cards(4 port) to one server? |
| 02:44.26 | drmessano | I had to sit down |
| 02:44.30 | drmessano | I was too overwhelmed |
| 02:44.44 | NovceGuru | tim horntons double double |
| 02:44.49 | drmessano | A double double.. I need a donut |
| 02:45.12 | NovceGuru | I love vince from shamwows 1990s headset |
| 02:45.24 | drmessano | I'm over 650lbs... thats too much exercise for me |
| 02:45.29 | drmessano | Oh yeah |
| 02:45.38 | drmessano | The "I am so important" headset |
| 02:45.54 | jaytee | Don Lapre can make you money!!! |
| 02:46.00 | Kobaz | sosoriri: 4 single span cards, or one quad span? although either would work fine assuming you have the expansion slots for it |
| 02:46.26 | NovceGuru | I think I have a shamwow in the trunk of my car |
| 02:46.42 | drmessano | NovceGuru: Next to the dead hooker? |
| 02:46.58 | NovceGuru | well, behind her |
| 02:47.06 | NovceGuru | next to the car cleaning stuff |
| 02:47.07 | jaytee | just make sure after installing the 4 quad E1 cards that you also load Gnome with Compiz enabled. A RAID 5 array would be a nice addition too! :-) |
| 02:47.30 | drmessano | I want one of those Digium OC30 cards |
| 02:47.40 | jaytee | rofl |
| 02:47.57 | drmessano | Plugged into a PCI slot in a PIII 700 |
| 02:48.06 | drmessano | Running 1.6.0beta3 |
| 02:48.19 | sosoriri | Kobaz: i going to install 4 E1 cards(4 * 4 ports) to one server now. i have to select available mainboard for my server. is it possible? |
| 02:48.36 | Kobaz | sosoriri: i wouldn't see why not |
| 02:48.41 | drmessano | jaytee: AKA a "Crawll Center" |
| 02:48.41 | jaytee | Warning!!!: Meltdown in progress. Please evacuate the facility immediately! |
| 02:48.48 | NovceGuru | I can't remember the name of the thing, but it's a cheaper/better alternative to a leather chamois |
| 02:48.55 | Kobaz | sosoriri: why not get two 2, 8 span t1/e1 cards from sangoma? |
| 02:49.14 | drmessano | Wow thats 16 E1s in ONE box |
| 02:49.21 | drmessano | Can you say "SINGLE POINT OF FAILURE" |
| 02:49.23 | drmessano | Seriously |
| 02:49.26 | sosoriri | drmessano: yes |
| 02:49.38 | jaytee | can you say interrupt latency? sure you can! |
| 02:49.44 | drmessano | Thats not cheap.. thats irresponsible |
| 02:49.45 | sosoriri | i think it maybe has something problem.. |
| 02:49.47 | NovceGuru | interrupt storm on port * |
| 02:50.00 | drmessano | Almost criminal |
| 02:50.12 | NovceGuru | hey, speaking of which, I couldn't believe * 1.6 cleanly compiled without any hacking on FreeBSD 7xc |
| 02:50.15 | NovceGuru | -c |
| 02:50.25 | Kobaz | sosoriri: what about some external gateways? |
| 02:50.28 | sosoriri | drmessano: thank you. how can i prove it? |
| 02:50.29 | jaytee | yeah, almost. Now if you did all that and loaded Trixbox it would be criminal |
| 02:50.56 | NovceGuru | then run it over a cable/dsl connection |
| 02:51.04 | NovceGuru | you know, for the 400 sip trunks coming into it |
| 02:51.19 | jaytee | blows coffee out his nose laughing |
| 02:51.36 | NovceGuru | all behind a linksys wrt54g (yes running stock linksys firmware) |
| 02:51.40 | sosoriri | Kobaz: directly from PSTN, no gateway. |
| 02:52.29 | drmessano | WRT54GS <--- Speed Booooost |
| 02:53.02 | drmessano | SpeedBoost = 54Mbps sometimes, 104Mbps with frequent dropouts |
| 02:53.05 | drmessano | YAY SPEEDBOOST |
| 02:53.19 | Kobaz | sosoriri: yeah, umm... what is this box going to be for? |
| 02:54.00 | drmessano | Home use |
| 02:54.10 | *** join/#asterisk fakhir_ (n=fakhir@unaffiliated/fakhir) |
| 02:54.12 | drmessano | He has lots of friends |
| 02:54.16 | Kobaz | haha |
| 02:54.26 | drmessano | They hate busy signals |
| 02:54.33 | drmessano | WHAT CAN YA DO? |
| 02:54.43 | [TK]D-Fender | buys AT&T |
| 02:54.53 | [TK]D-Fender | :D |
| 02:54.56 | [TK]D-Fender | pwned |
| 02:54.57 | NovceGuru | drmessano: I need it for all my Linksys EIP300s |
| 02:54.58 | NovceGuru | linksys reccomends I stay with the same brand of hardware |
| 02:55.17 | jaytee | "Yay! I ported * to my 8 system PII 350mhz Parallel Knoppix cluster with the 24 X100P cards. Time to start my own phone company!" |
| 02:55.20 | drmessano | I have so many friends that I got rid of all my numbers |
| 02:55.27 | [TK]D-Fender | ~nowwhat |
| 02:55.28 | jbot | So you just installed Asterisk now what? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULgwbvj768E |
| 02:55.46 | drmessano | jaytee: Be careful, some asshole will PM you wanting to know how you did it |
| 02:55.53 | jaytee | hehehee |
| 02:55.57 | drmessano | Im serious |
| 02:56.03 | [TK]D-Fender | Oh shit, somebody FUBAR'd the vid! |
| 02:56.11 | drmessano | Everytime I made an X100P joke, like 30 seconds later.. I get a message |
| 02:56.16 | eppigy | i have so many numbers i just got rid of all my friends |
| 02:56.17 | drmessano | "Hi" |
| 02:56.38 | drmessano | I have logs of random posts |
| 02:56.57 | drmessano | and then the subsequent message from "telefono216" |
| 02:57.09 | drmessano | "Hi, u use Dagium XP100?" |
| 02:57.14 | jaytee | telefono216, lol |
| 02:57.20 | drmessano | "How you connect with Bungee cord?" |
| 02:57.25 | drmessano | "It was a joke" |
| 02:57.37 | drmessano | "Ok, but youc an connec them together and make 4 ports?" |
| 02:57.42 | drmessano | "No, go away" |
| 02:57.47 | drmessano | "Why you not help me?" |
| 02:57.51 | drmessano | and on... |
| 02:58.12 | sosoriri | Kobaz: i will ust it for my company. i want that all voice pass through one box. |
| 02:58.36 | jaytee | "I am on Brazil, man at phone company say I need ground start, how do I start the ground?" |
| 02:58.38 | NovceGuru | so you can record it? |
| 02:58.38 | drmessano | World: I taped 24 X100Ps together and made a channel bank. GIVE IT TO ME, GIRL |
| 03:00.26 | sosoriri | Kobaz: my boss said me we can install 4 E1 cards on one box. but i must prove it and select proper mainboard. |
| 03:00.39 | *** part/#asterisk Hyphenex (n=scott@60-241-147-211.tpgi.com.au) |
| 03:00.49 | drmessano | Youre gonna overload that box |
| 03:00.54 | drmessano | and create a single point of failure |
| 03:01.24 | drmessano | 400+ channels on one box |
| 03:01.33 | drmessano | If AT&T was alive today, it would slap you |
| 03:01.52 | eppigy | or buy you out |
| 03:01.56 | asteriskmonkey | just use a redbridge then tdmoe' it to multibox |
| 03:01.58 | eppigy | and take 3 years to integrate you |
| 03:02.09 | drmessano | TDMoE is teh awesum |
| 03:02.24 | drmessano | I use TDMoE to test how to make T1 |
| 03:02.57 | jaytee | redbridge? you mean Redfone? |
| 03:03.03 | asteriskmonkey | yes |
| 03:03.08 | jaytee | piece of crap |
| 03:03.57 | drmessano | I just robbed a channel bank |
| 03:03.57 | jaytee | stick a real Digium or Sangoma card in the server or buy a REAL media gateway like Audiocodes |
| 03:05.03 | eppigy | that is kind of anticlimatic |
| 03:05.23 | eppigy | given the general project goals |
| 03:05.27 | eppigy | i se ein here |
| 03:05.43 | sosoriri | i want to catch all voices and record them in 32*16 channels. no need other features. |
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| 03:06.01 | sosoriri | is it impossible on one box? |
| 03:06.09 | drmessano | Record voices? |
| 03:06.10 | eppigy | that is more like it |
| 03:06.25 | ricko73 | sosoriri: you might look at one of these: http://www.redeaglecreations.us/images/DecalDreamCatcher.jpg |
| 03:06.33 | drmessano | There was a guy on Pinwheel, on Nickelodeon when I was a kid, and he captured sounds in boxes |
| 03:06.43 | drmessano | Later they found out it was little kids too |
| 03:06.44 | drmessano | But |
| 03:06.49 | drmessano | The sounds thing was cool |
| 03:07.03 | eppigy | i have that same situation with a 15 year old girl in my basement |
| 03:07.07 | eppigy | locked in a cage |
| 03:07.54 | jaytee | ok, here's the joke. A dual port Redfone costs about 1,600 bucks with HWEC but it only has a 30 day warranty. Digium's dual E1/T1 cards (and probably Sangoma's too) have a 5 year warranty and you don't get "stuck" at 1.4.x waiting for Redfone to get DAHDI compliant. |
| 03:08.37 | NovceGuru | ew and they have a flash website |
| 03:11.17 | sosoriri | don't worry about it. |
| 03:11.29 | jaytee | actually, according to telephonydepot Sangoma's cards have a "lifetime" warranty, whatever that means. Still a few hundred cheaper per dual port card for either brand over Redfone's crap. |
| 03:12.33 | sosoriri | jaytee: thank u |
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| 03:15.37 | Kobaz | sosoriri: http://www.audiocodes.com/products/mediant-1000 you should get some of those, and an asterisk box to go with each |
| 03:17.33 | sosoriri | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:17.59 | sosoriri | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:18.26 | [TK]D-Fender | Kobaz: He asked for 16 E1, that doesn't scale |
| 03:19.16 | [TK]D-Fender | sosoriri: THIS is more like what you're looking for : http://www.audiocodes.com/products/mediant-2000 |
| 03:20.18 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender, that one has swappable modules in case one goes bad, right? |
| 03:20.22 | [TK]D-Fender | sosoriri: and a load-balancer so you don't get killed by the recording load |
| 03:20.26 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: Yup |
| 03:20.44 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: 4x front-facing IIRC |
| 03:20.52 | jaytee | pricey, but if I was setting up a large call center I'd like one or two of those |
| 03:21.08 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: Pricey yes... but with this kind of scale you don't fuck around |
| 03:21.19 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: This will handle redundency, power issues, etc |
| 03:21.49 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: And being straight SIP at G.711 it will be no more load to * than the disk factor |
| 03:21.51 | jaytee | several asterisk boxes on the back end with DUNDI would work nicely |
| 03:22.06 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: At which point I'd recommend a fiber SAN or similar :) |
| 03:22.17 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: DUNDi? screw that! |
| 03:22.21 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: STANDARDS baby! |
| 03:22.23 | drmessano | Screw SAN or Fibre |
| 03:22.32 | drmessano | Western Digital MyBook World Edition |
| 03:22.39 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: Good option for heavy duty disk backend |
| 03:22.40 | jaytee | rofl |
| 03:23.20 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: You know... I got this USB stick laying around, and a couple of tin cans... I CAN BE THE NEXT VONAGE!!!!!!! |
| 03:24.00 | drmessano | You left out the T |
| 03:24.02 | drmessano | VONTAGE |
| 03:25.09 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender, so if you had to setup a call center where you'd have somewhere in the ballpark of 600-700 concurrent calls how would you distribute the load with queuing? One * box would cave under that load. |
| 03:25.36 | sosoriri | 4 digium cards, |
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| 03:26.04 | jaytee | wtf? jbot just had a seizure! |
| 03:26.20 | JayWest | Greetings folks. Might a new asterisk user get a nudge in the right direction on a problem here? |
| 03:26.22 | jaytee | jbot valium |
| 03:26.22 | jbot | ACTION hands jaytee some narcos. |
| 03:26.23 | ManxPower | jaytee: I think it's actually Bird Flu |
| 03:26.40 | sosoriri | i think it has many interrupts. |
| 03:26.46 | sosoriri | but i can't prove it. |
| 03:27.03 | Kobaz | sosoriri: are you still trying to use pci cards? |
| 03:27.18 | jaytee | sosoriri, cat /proc/interrupts ain't doing it for you? |
| 03:27.44 | sosoriri | yes. |
| 03:27.45 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: SER in front of multiple servers |
| 03:28.20 | sosoriri | i gonna buy mainboard to install them on. |
| 03:28.31 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender, that's kinda where I was going, with OpenSER or whatever. |
| 03:28.42 | Kobaz | sosoriri: what sort of company is this for? |
| 03:28.43 | sosoriri | but i am afraid of their interrupts and others. |
| 03:28.47 | [TK]D-Fender | sosoriri: just FYI It has been documented for at least the last 5 years that you should NOT put more than 2 cards into a single server |
| 03:29.08 | Kobaz | sosoriri: lets say that your server is down, how many people are going to be pissedd off that 300+ channels are inaccessable |
| 03:30.29 | jaytee | if you live on an island, two two-lane bridges to the mainland are better than 1 4-lane bridge. Especially during hurricane season. |
| 03:31.00 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: Everything depends on what interconnect is required between channels on multiple servers, if its moot, then * can be nearly brain-dead |
| 03:31.10 | drmessano | I made that comment like 4 hours ago |
| 03:31.16 | drmessano | Something about single point of failure |
| 03:31.19 | drmessano | But hes ignored it |
| 03:31.25 | Kobaz | hehe |
| 03:31.26 | jaytee | yep, SPOF |
| 03:31.59 | sosoriri | [TK]D-Fender: what's mean FYI. |
| 03:32.09 | [TK]D-Fender | ~fyi |
| 03:32.09 | jbot | i heard fyi is For Your Information |
| 03:32.13 | Kobaz | sosoriri: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_point_of_failure |
| 03:33.34 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender, true, as long as the phones can do reinvites then the load on the * box would be minimal. With SER or OpenSER(Kamailio or whatever) acting as the mediation server everything would be smooth and could scale even higher. |
| 03:34.28 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: Everything depends on what you want to use * for exactly. |
| 03:34.42 | Kobaz | speaking of reinvites |
| 03:35.00 | Kobaz | how would you handle call recording in * if the call was reinvited and now it's end to end |
| 03:35.02 | sosoriri | i am running with one server by one E1 card(4 ports). |
| 03:35.17 | [TK]D-Fender | Kobaz: You seemed not to have read the big print... |
| 03:35.27 | sosoriri | now my boss wants to fix it to one box. |
| 03:35.28 | Kobaz | sosoriri: good, get 3 other servers for the 3 other cards |
| 03:35.29 | [TK]D-Fender | Kobaz: Recording PREVENTS re-invites <--- |
| 03:35.38 | sosoriri | yes. |
| 03:35.38 | Kobaz | yeah |
| 03:35.47 | Kobaz | but |
| 03:35.49 | sosoriri | 4 cards and 4 servers |
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| 03:36.15 | jaytee | for me, one box with a second as a passive failover (rsynched dialplan and eth0 down) and a T1 failover box is all I really need for a highly reliable system but I'm not handling huge concurrent call volumes. I was just curious about it and figured I'd pick your brain. |
| 03:36.31 | Kobaz | [TK]D-Fender: yeah but, if you did not do recording in the first place, was my question |
| 03:36.44 | [TK]D-Fender | sosoriri: A real issue is how you will load-balance those servers.... |
| 03:36.47 | Kobaz | [TK]D-Fender: an agent wanted to hit *1 and start recording |
| 03:36.52 | Kobaz | etc |
| 03:37.00 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender, but I've heard SER and OpenSER are a bitch to configure. |
| 03:37.05 | [TK]D-Fender | Kobaz: the mere fact you use Ww", etc DISABLES reinvites |
| 03:37.11 | sosoriri | [TK]D-Fender: is it possible? |
| 03:37.11 | Kobaz | okay, i see |
| 03:37.32 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: Bitch, in-laws, stinky pets, etc... whole family reunion |
| 03:37.39 | jaytee | lol |
| 03:37.50 | [TK]D-Fender | sosoriri: How are YOU controlling what calls your servers receieve? |
| 03:38.06 | [TK]D-Fender | jayActually... I'm sure its not really that bac |
| 03:38.08 | [TK]D-Fender | bad* |
| 03:38.27 | [TK]D-Fender | &^*#$%# Everybody should have a 3-char 100% accurate autocomplete hit! |
| 03:39.17 | [TK]D-Fender | thinks about writing a "best effort" autocomplete script that will average between "last spoken to" , "last spoken to by" , and "last spoken" |
| 03:39.29 | Kobaz | yes that would be cool |
| 03:39.48 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender, well maybe not but certainly more complicated than doing an Asterisk configuration and dialplan. |
| 03:40.17 | jaytee | but that's just based on what I've read and from others that have used SER or OpenSER |
| 03:41.25 | jaytee | One of these days I'm going to put on one of my Hawaiian shirts and install Kamailio on a test box just to see what it's like :-) |
| 03:41.49 | jaytee | maybe a little Don Ho music in the background while I work |
| 03:42.22 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: Jimmy Buffet |
| 03:42.42 | jaytee | hmmmm, yeah Buffet would work |
| 03:43.13 | jaytee | and a pitcher of margaritas for when things get dicey and frustrating |
| 03:45.16 | sosoriri | [TK]D-Fender: here |
| 03:45.35 | sosoriri | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:45.37 | sosoriri | (Analog)| | | |...| | | |
| 03:45.38 | sosoriri | | | | |...| | |(16* E1 channels) |
| 03:45.40 | sosoriri | | | | |...| | | |
| 03:45.42 | sosoriri | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:45.43 | sosoriri | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:45.45 | sosoriri | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:45.46 | Kobaz | uhh |
| 03:45.46 | sosoriri | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:45.47 | Kobaz | stop |
| 03:45.48 | sosoriri | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:45.52 | sosoriri | sorry. |
| 03:45.55 | Kobaz | pastebin.ca |
| 03:46.03 | sosoriri | [TK]D-Fender.. |
| 03:46.09 | sosoriri | can u see it? |
| 03:46.13 | Kobaz | pastebin.ca |
| 03:46.17 | Kobaz | ^ |
| 03:46.19 | [TK]D-Fender | and beyond span, that isn't F-ING LEGIBLE |
| 03:46.26 | [TK]D-Fender | SPAM* |
| 03:46.39 | *** part/#asterisk JayWest (n=fozzie@24-207-135-83.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) |
| 03:46.39 | sosoriri | sorry *F-ING LEGIBLE*?? |
| 03:46.42 | [TK]D-Fender | sosoriri: Get a drawing program and imagebin it |
| 03:46.43 | *** join/#asterisk JonOnt (n=nonya@72.34.90.74) |
| 03:46.46 | Kobaz | sosoriri: http://www.pastebin.ca |
| 03:46.50 | [TK]D-Fender | sosoriri: "Can't read your crap" |
| 03:47.35 | *** join/#asterisk DrAk0 (n=luisjose@nelug/coreteam/luisjose) |
| 03:50.26 | sosoriri | i don't want to give me other helps. i want to tell me if i install 4*4 E1cards(4 channels) on one box, is it possible? |
| 03:50.49 | sosoriri | if it's possible, how can i configure my box,,,? |
| 03:50.56 | sosoriri | help me. |
| 03:51.29 | [TK]D-Fender | sosoriri: What part of HIGHLY NOT RECOMMENEDED do you not understand? |
| 03:52.03 | [TK]D-Fender | sosoriri: The load you are placing on 1 box is STUPID. If you want help I'll put your name up on the Elective Lobotomy List |
| 03:52.38 | ricko73 | what was that line that Forrest, Forrest Gump had? |
| 03:53.10 | sosoriri | [TK]D-Fender.. okay.. |
| 03:53.18 | sosoriri | sorry. |
| 03:53.38 | sosoriri | buy the way, if it's impossible, can u tell me why? |
| 03:54.05 | sosoriri | i make my boss to understand it... |
| 03:54.10 | sosoriri | u have any idea? |
| 03:54.12 | ricko73 | Ok, take a bag that's capable of holding 10lbs |
| 03:54.17 | ricko73 | try shoving 20 lbs into it |
| 03:54.22 | ricko73 | won't work |
| 03:55.05 | ricko73 | well it may work for a little while, but when the bag tears, you'll have shit all over |
| 03:55.08 | ricko73 | same concept |
| 03:56.48 | [TK]D-Fender | sosoriri: Digium themselves tell you not to put more than 2 cards in 1 box. You are trying to put DOUBLE. FULLY LOADED. And expected to RECORD everything. |
| 03:57.23 | [TK]D-Fender | sosoriri: There are only so many ways to say "cataclysmically stupid" |
| 03:57.27 | sosoriri | [TK]D-Fender: you have any document about it? |
| 03:57.41 | [TK]D-Fender | sosoriri: 183 to be precise, but I'll settle for that one |
| 03:57.47 | [TK]D-Fender | sosoriri: www.digium.com |
| 03:59.22 | Sargun | [TK]D-Fender, haha, I enjoy your sense of reaming the noobs. |
| 03:59.51 | jaytee | it's usually much better than whatever's on cable |
| 04:00.08 | [TK]D-Fender | Sargun: I've spare you your own volley for earlier, but we won't get into that... |
| 04:04.27 | sosoriri | is it not server and E1 card problem. is it about zaptel and libpri? |
| 04:04.38 | asteriskmonkey | yes |
| 04:04.54 | asteriskmonkey | libpri was never orginally ment to handle more than 2 pris |
| 04:05.24 | asteriskmonkey | the disk access though needs to do 400 simulatnous call records would be nasty |
| 04:05.34 | [TK]D-Fender | sosoriri: Too. Much &^#ing Load. |
| 04:05.41 | asteriskmonkey | ramsans though would have no issue handling that |
| 04:06.07 | asteriskmonkey | asterisk 1.6 would have to be used :P |
| 04:06.11 | asteriskmonkey | or YATE |
| 04:06.19 | Sargun | 400 calls? |
| 04:06.44 | asteriskmonkey | oh sorry though you where going to load 4 quad pri cards in a box |
| 04:06.53 | JAMMAN2110 | Id like to see them try that, and what happens shortly after :) |
| 04:06.53 | asteriskmonkey | is not 400 but pretty closse |
| 04:11.10 | sosoriri | concurrent 70 calls. |
| 04:11.44 | ManxPower | I would go with two 4-port cards per server. |
| 04:13.37 | asteriskmonkey | you could use a small class 5 switch like a metaswitch and use it to feed a bunch of boxes and handle failover |
| 04:16.12 | Kobaz | forever i've been thinking about monkeying exim to only run spamassassin for incomming emails |
| 04:16.15 | Kobaz | er |
| 04:16.16 | Kobaz | wrong chan |
| 04:24.12 | *** join/#asterisk Sargun (n=Sargun@2001:5a8:4:2cb0:213:2ff:fe28:a16a) |
| 04:30.45 | drmessano | Try 4chan |
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| 04:32.16 | sosoriri | then, how about libss7? |
| 04:32.20 | drmessano | My math may be off here, but the original math was 4xE1 cards X 4 card |
| 04:32.43 | drmessano | Which is 16xE1 |
| 04:32.47 | [TK]D-Fender | sosoriri: For what? |
| 04:33.02 | drmessano | [TK]D-Fender: Makin convo? |
| 04:33.09 | sosoriri | i think libss7 instead of libpri. |
| 04:33.10 | drmessano | [TK]D-Fender: How about that H323, eh? |
| 04:33.15 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: this just keeps getting better... |
| 04:33.20 | drmessano | Ah |
| 04:33.27 | [TK]D-Fender | sosoriri: what part of FUCKED are you not getting? |
| 04:33.29 | NovceGuru | Kobaz: mxlogic is the lazyadmins friend :P |
| 04:33.54 | drmessano | What about SpanDSP instead of Libpri? |
| 04:34.01 | NovceGuru | drmessano: I heard 7chan has better support in 1.6 |
| 04:34.04 | drmessano | throwing random shit out there too |
| 04:34.04 | [TK]D-Fender | sosoriri: Your continued desperate attempts to get a "yes it'll work" have ceased being entertaining. |
| 04:34.23 | sosoriri | hehe. |
| 04:34.25 | drmessano | Can I use Oslec instead of Libpri? |
| 04:34.25 | [TK]D-Fender | sosoriri: 1 server was not made to handle all of that. |
| 04:34.30 | ManxPower | [TK]D-Fender: But if I wish hard enough it must come true! |
| 04:34.59 | drmessano | What about if I use Libpri and buy some extra G729 licenses? |
| 04:35.05 | [TK]D-Fender | ManxPower: Or someone will beat him senseless if only to dim the level of stupidity in this room! |
| 04:35.17 | sosoriri | i know it's very difficult, or maybe impossible. |
| 04:35.27 | ManxPower | not me! if I want to beat someone senseless I'm trying to remeber to leave first |
| 04:35.31 | sosoriri | but i think you have any idea. |
| 04:35.51 | drmessano | Ok ok.. I will trade you G729 and Oslec for the LibSS7, the H323, and the extra power supply for the Klystron!! Deal? |
| 04:35.54 | [TK]D-Fender | sosoriri: No, you DON'T KNOW. We can keep telling you but frankly I wonder if anything sinks into that head of yours |
| 04:36.10 | drmessano | Asteriskmon: Gotta get em all! |
| 04:36.29 | *** part/#asterisk lmadsen (n=Leif@asterisk/documenteur-extraordinaire/blitzrage) |
| 04:37.04 | drmessano | [TK]D-Fender: Monkeys generally dont check the color of their poo before slinging it at the wall. |
| 04:37.53 | jaytee | I step away for a few then come back and it's the same shit :-) |
| 04:38.00 | drmessano | grabs a handful of TDMoE and slings it at the wall |
| 04:38.06 | drmessano | Ook OOOK |
| 04:38.33 | jaytee | at least it's not bonobo spooge |
| 04:38.33 | drmessano | Wait, I can set up a couple thousand channels with TDMoE |
| 04:38.47 | drmessano | 40xE1 |
| 04:38.48 | drmessano | YES |
| 04:39.20 | drmessano | Does anyone have a WANPIPE stretcher? |
| 04:39.39 | drmessano | I'm just sayin' |
| 04:39.43 | asteriskmonkey | you need to be in ds3 land |
| 04:39.45 | jaytee | hmmm, 4 10Gigabit NICS, "lemme do the math here, nuthin into nuthin, carry the nuthin...." |
| 04:39.48 | *** join/#asterisk pfn (n=pfnguyen@hanhuy.com) |
| 04:39.51 | asteriskmonkey | and digium no makey the ds3 card yet |
| 04:40.02 | pfn | oh yeah, I noticed that the uscis.gov uses asterisk |
| 04:40.04 | pfn | heh |
| 04:40.10 | pfn | and their dialplan is fucked up |
| 04:40.20 | ricko73 | pfn: they use chan_spy |
| 04:40.26 | pfn | if you hit # you get the transfer prompt |
| 04:40.54 | ricko73 | pfn: that's a known bug that should be fixed in 1.4.23 if that ever goes final |
| 04:41.07 | drmessano | They probably hired someone who speaks English as their 4th language to set it up.. Ironic? Maybe |
| 04:43.02 | Sargun | ricko73, haha |
| 04:43.17 | *** join/#asterisk DrAk0 (n=luisjose@nelug/coreteam/luisjose) |
| 04:43.27 | Sargun | jaytee, most people using 4x10 have no clue what they're doing |
| 04:43.54 | ricko73 | drmessano: here's your sign http://www.casadice.com/signs/pages/outside_sign110.htm |
| 04:43.57 | drmessano | Most people using 4x4's have no idea what they are doing |
| 04:44.03 | jaytee | lol |
| 04:44.18 | drmessano | HAHHAHAH |
| 04:44.29 | jaytee | did I just get a serious response from a totally facetious posting? |
| 04:44.45 | drmessano | THIS IS AMERICA. IF YOU CANT SPEAK THE LANGUAGE, GET A JOB AT A CALL CENTER |
| 04:44.49 | ManxPower | I almost had a finger removed by a 4x6, ya gotta respect your luber! |
| 04:44.59 | Sargun | o.O |
| 04:45.05 | thehar | oh ManxPower |
| 04:45.06 | thehar | hahahaha |
| 04:45.09 | drmessano | lol |
| 04:45.11 | ManxPower | and lumMber too! |
| 04:45.24 | thehar | lies |
| 04:45.37 | drmessano | This sounds sexual.. |
| 04:46.10 | drmessano | I'm just sayin' |
| 04:46.12 | jaytee | next time you call a support number and get Haji or Raj on the phone just go "Do you hear ticking? BOOOM!!!!" and hangup. |
| 04:46.20 | drmessano | No |
| 04:46.22 | drmessano | "Pete" |
| 04:46.31 | jaytee | "Joe" |
| 04:46.37 | *** join/#asterisk akant2 (n=chatzill@ip68-13-85-68.om.om.cox.net) |
| 04:46.42 | drmessano | Call Vonage to get an adapter swapped out |
| 04:46.48 | drmessano | "Hello, my name is Pete" |
| 04:46.57 | drmessano | "Do I hear drums and gunfire?" |
| 04:47.04 | drmessano | "No sir, what is your account number" |
| 04:47.08 | sosoriri | hey, if i can make E1 16 channel as one card, how about it? |
| 04:47.08 | akant2 | I am alittle late on the last conversation above on ITSPs and PRIs |
| 04:47.15 | akant2 | Do most ITSP uses SIP trunking on the backend for call delivery through other providers? |
| 04:47.35 | drmessano | ROFL |
| 04:47.40 | drmessano | Like 16 E1s? |
| 04:47.50 | sosoriri | yes |
| 04:48.03 | drmessano | so so sorri, that is not a good idea |
| 04:48.14 | drmessano | Err tab fail |
| 04:48.18 | drmessano | sosoriri, I mean |
| 04:49.11 | drmessano | 16 E1s is a massive number of channels for one little box |
| 04:49.41 | drmessano | Its also incredibly stupid to load that density on a box due to the potential for losing YOUR WHOLE ASS if it goes down |
| 04:49.45 | asteriskmonkey | you need to upgrade to oc3 at that point or oc-12 with a mothermuxer |
| 04:50.09 | drmessano | I dont think you get the whole "THATS A LOT OF CHANNELS TO HAVE GO DOWN WITH ONE LITTLE REBOOT" |
| 04:50.20 | drmessano | Nevermind the density |
| 04:50.32 | drmessano | err load |
| 04:50.34 | thehar | reboots the gibson |
| 04:50.46 | drmessano | snowcrashes |
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| 04:51.14 | drmessano | Sorry, thought it was cultural reference night |
| 04:51.42 | asteriskmonkey | my iphone has more power than the gibson |
| 04:52.10 | drmessano | jaytee has a gibson like mainframe at home that he's decorated in steampunk style |
| 04:52.49 | jaytee | :-) |
| 04:52.56 | thehar | haha |
| 04:52.57 | drmessano | Jaytees laptop: http://www.streettech.com/storypics/steampunkLaptop2.jpg |
| 04:53.10 | jaytee | The windup key always cracks people up |
| 04:54.05 | jaytee | I've seen that one. Datamancer's steampunk. His page goes through all the fabrication steps. Lotta work to makes something look like a butt ugly Macbook IMHO |
| 04:54.25 | drmessano | lol |
| 04:54.59 | asteriskmonkey | anyone seen those one-laptop-per-child laptops |
| 04:55.04 | drmessano | Yeah |
| 04:55.15 | drmessano | OLPC or MyFirstSony, WTF |
| 04:55.18 | asteriskmonkey | i think they actually have a functional wind up laptop |
| 04:55.19 | asteriskmonkey | lol |
| 04:55.25 | drmessano | Yeah |
| 04:55.31 | drmessano | Runs linux, has wifi, etc |
| 04:55.54 | drmessano | IMMA HAKIN THE GRIBSON DADDY, KEEP CRANKIN |
| 04:55.55 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: Best part.... he wants to RECORD everything |
| 04:56.10 | drmessano | [TK]D-Fender: Where did you find him.. he's adorable |
| 04:56.21 | sosoriri | no wifi |
| 04:56.44 | sosoriri | no sip, iax trunking. |
| 04:56.48 | drmessano | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OLPC_XO-1 |
| 04:56.50 | sosoriri | no support IP phone. |
| 04:56.58 | sosoriri | only support E1 card. |
| 04:57.29 | jaytee | sosoriri, ride the short bus much? |
| 04:57.33 | drmessano | [TK]D-Fender: When you told him it would take a lot of CPU power, did he offer to spec out a DUAL CORE instead of the SINGLE CORE he planned originally? |
| 04:57.59 | asteriskmonkey | lol |
| 04:58.03 | asteriskmonkey | dammit |
| 04:58.12 | sosoriri | if i can do it for 4 El cards, i can purcharse anything. |
| 04:58.12 | asteriskmonkey | asterisk is voice processing is 8bit |
| 04:58.13 | drmessano | May wanna splurge and upgrade those Celerons to Xeons.. |
| 04:58.30 | drmessano | Quad Core Celeron is not WIN |
| 04:58.34 | asteriskmonkey | 8bit meaning 4000mhz 286 will be just as fast as a 4000mhz quad core |
| 04:59.35 | Sargun | asteriskmonkey, I have an XO-1 |
| 04:59.47 | drmessano | I almost bought a couple |
| 04:59.51 | sosoriri | then it's not server problem. |
| 05:00.10 | Sargun | 4 Ghz 286? |
| 05:00.12 | drmessano | sosoriri: We've told you what the problems are |
| 05:00.19 | drmessano | sosoriri: You REFUSE to listen |
| 05:00.20 | sosoriri | i asked u it's possible with chanzap, libss7 |
| 05:00.23 | Sargun | drmessano, we? |
| 05:00.36 | Sargun | we're a collective intelligence now |
| 05:00.41 | sosoriri | no, i listen to it. |
| 05:00.58 | asteriskmonkey | love them geode based units, sucks next to no power |
| 05:01.02 | drmessano | Sargun: We as in, a few of us that are talking. English not your first? |
| 05:01.02 | jaytee | here's an interesting bundle!! http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3720338&Sku=MBM-G31-E2200 |
| 05:01.41 | drmessano | sosoriri: DO what you want... you have it in your head what you plan to use and how you plan to implement. No one here seems to agree with you. |
| 05:01.46 | asteriskmonkey | yes wait a few weeks the i7's will start dragging all cpu prices down |
| 05:02.04 | drmessano | sosoriri: I can that a "pattern". |
| 05:02.11 | jaytee | only problem with that bundle is the mobo comes with BIOS rev 32 and you need BIOS rev 47 to boot that particular CPU. Try getting an RMA from TigerDirect for something they pawn off on you. :-) NewEgg FTW!!!! |
| 05:02.20 | *** join/#asterisk Jabess (n=ircap@c-75-74-115-209.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 05:02.21 | Sargun | drmessano, I was attempting to be somewhat sarcastic. |
| 05:02.28 | Sargun | asteriskmonkey, except the fact the're kind of slow. |
| 05:02.41 | Sargun | drmessano, I wonder when we'll see Core i7 in a laptop. |
| 05:03.23 | Jabess | [Sargun] why you want Core i7? Is much better than Extreme? |
| 05:03.26 | asteriskmonkey | for asterisk appliactions yes, but it will drive down the other better cpu choices :) |
| 05:03.55 | sosoriri | can anybody tell me clearly why it's possible with asterisk, chanzap, libss7. |
| 05:04.13 | Jabess | what is possible of what? |
| 05:04.18 | asteriskmonkey | because someone spent time programming it :P |
| 05:04.21 | asteriskmonkey | like chan_skype |
| 05:04.23 | drmessano | sosoriri: You are just grabbing terms out of thin air |
| 05:04.25 | asteriskmonkey | its lame but there |
| 05:04.54 | asteriskmonkey | i think hes grasping at the fact ss7 is available in dahdi if you compile in the ss7 libs |
| 05:05.13 | drmessano | sosoriri: You are not going to be able to spec a machine that will handle that many channels + Recording for under say a couple hundred thousand million francs |
| 05:05.30 | asteriskmonkey | which again for most people is something they should stay away from unless they are planning on doing 1000's of channels, which you shouldnt be dong anyway on a single asterisk box |
| 05:06.13 | drmessano | asteriskmonkey: Why build two boxes and have some safety? Better to watch your business fail quicker |
| 05:06.28 | asteriskmonkey | true |
| 05:06.35 | drmessano | asteriskmonkey: 1000 channels per box is reasonably... reasonable, yes no yes? |
| 05:06.48 | asteriskmonkey | depends on application/system |
| 05:06.52 | drmessano | I can haz? |
| 05:07.23 | sosoriri | drmessano: i heard here it's impossible from chanzap, libpri. it's not problem about machine spec. |
| 05:07.23 | asteriskmonkey | g729 no, a ulaw only routing whore sure 1000 calls easy on a modern system with minimul tweaks |
| 05:07.43 | eric2 | I have a sangoma T1 card on my box and the callerID name is always prefixed with a '1'.... where do I even start to get rid of that extra character in front of the name? |
| 05:07.44 | sosoriri | if it's possible with them, i will select spec with u. |
| 05:07.45 | asteriskmonkey | but thats sip |
| 05:07.46 | drmessano | sosoriri: There are MANY reasons this WONT WORK |
| 05:08.01 | eric2 | when I print out the clid with noop, its shows correctly |
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| 05:08.23 | drmessano | sosoriri: I wont even go near the legal liability of setting up that density for your application |
| 05:08.25 | sosoriri | drmessano: can u tell me the reason clearly? |
| 05:08.25 | drmessano | Its a bad idea |
| 05:08.30 | asteriskmonkey | throw zap out the window, you have zap in a box youll have issues pushing more than 280 concurrent calls, and thats if you can get past the call tear down /setup issues |
| 05:08.40 | *** join/#asterisk DrAk0 (n=luisjose@nelug/coreteam/luisjose) |
| 05:08.50 | drmessano | sosoriri: No, but you may scroll up and read the words of myself and others who have reiterated for hours why this wont work |
| 05:08.53 | drmessano | I will wait |
| 05:09.42 | sosoriri | okay |
| 05:11.08 | buzukelis | can i use (*)symbol in dialplan extensions paterns ? |
| 05:11.28 | *** join/#asterisk L|NUX (n=linux@unaffiliated/lnux/x-10290) |
| 05:12.17 | [TK]D-Fender | buzukelis: Yes |
| 05:14.33 | jaytee | I've heard the expression "beating a dead horse" but until tonight I'd never actually seen it demonstrated in a chatroom |
| 05:15.33 | asteriskmonkey | i think this opens up a new saying, beating then defiling the dead horse |
| 05:16.05 | [TK]D-Fender | sosoriri: http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/5608/beating-a-dead-horse.gif |
| 05:16.22 | sosoriri | okay. if i can have another box (16 E1 channels(4 cards)) for routing calls |
| 05:16.25 | sosoriri | it's not asterisk. |
| 05:16.26 | jaytee | hahahahaaa |
| 05:16.48 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender, did you just google that? |
| 05:16.56 | sosoriri | and i have other box (16 E1 channels) for only recording? |
| 05:17.11 | sosoriri | is it possible. |
| 05:17.12 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: I have a a local copy for a long time now, but yes, did just google it up specifically |
| 05:17.17 | drmessano | How is it not asterisk? |
| 05:17.23 | sosoriri | sorry, me is very poor english. |
| 05:17.25 | drmessano | What are you gonna use, linux? |
| 05:17.25 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender, ^5! |
| 05:17.53 | sosoriri | yes, linux. |
| 05:18.00 | drmessano | jesus christ |
| 05:18.15 | [TK]D-Fender | http://www.bjacked.net/LuvToHunt/forums/phpBB2/modules/gallery/albums/album01/Beat_Dead_Horse.jpg |
| 05:18.25 | drmessano | deskfaces |
| 05:18.33 | drmessano | sosoriri: That doesnt even make SENSE |
| 05:18.43 | sosoriri | oh.. |
| 05:18.59 | drmessano | sosoriri: Youre not gonna use asterisk, just "linux".. that's not even... |
| 05:19.00 | sosoriri | one box (not asterisk) is working good. |
| 05:19.04 | drmessano | Christ |
| 05:19.11 | drmessano | How so? |
| 05:19.31 | drmessano | How are you using these cards on this non-asterisk box? |
| 05:19.32 | sosoriri | then, i gonna make other box for only recording. |
| 05:19.50 | sosoriri | it's not digium cards. |
| 05:19.51 | drmessano | What are they interfacing to? |
| 05:20.14 | sosoriri | it's topic for us. |
| 05:20.19 | sosoriri | i don't know. |
| 05:20.21 | jaytee | sosoriri, this is what you really need if you're going to have 16 E1's in a box! http://www.asteriskwin32.com/ |
| 05:20.28 | sosoriri | it's business box. |
| 05:21.05 | sosoriri | i have question about other box, |
| 05:21.19 | sosoriri | it's for only recording have 4 E1 (digium) cards |
| 05:21.25 | jaytee | the one with the Rice Krispies or the Corn Chex? |
| 05:21.29 | sosoriri | it will run on asterisk. |
| 05:21.29 | jaytee | which box? |
| 05:22.47 | sosoriri | then, maybe i don't use asterisk. |
| 05:23.09 | [TK]D-Fender | sosoriri: Then you're in the wrong channel. Move along. |
| 05:23.17 | jaytee | this isn't even a case of "the lights are on but nobody's home", it's a case of "what is the name of the element that is denser than neutronium?" answer: sosoriri |
| 05:23.21 | drmessano | You have to have an application to use with the cards |
| 05:23.30 | drmessano | You dont just fucking throw cards in there and wish |
| 05:23.34 | sosoriri | only libss7, chanzap for E1 cards |
| 05:23.40 | [TK]D-Fender | goes to find sosoriri's marbles.... then puts them in a sock and beats him sensless with them |
| 05:23.41 | drmessano | wtf |
| 05:23.56 | sosoriri | uhhh.. |
| 05:23.59 | sosoriri | okay. |
| 05:24.29 | sosoriri | i give up it. |
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| 05:24.36 | drmessano | sosoririL You are GUESSING |
| 05:24.41 | drmessano | Youre not even making sense |
| 05:24.42 | jaytee | beats him senseless? isn't that kind of like trying to empty and already empty can? |
| 05:24.58 | drmessano | Youre saying you want to put these cards in a box with just linux |
| 05:24.59 | drmessano | or |
| 05:24.59 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: So I'm lazy... sue me! |
| 05:25.02 | drmessano | with asterisk |
| 05:25.08 | drmessano | but we say "IT WONT WORK" |
| 05:25.14 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender, no way dude! Lawyers cost money! |
| 05:25.18 | drmessano | and you say "Well, just for recording" |
| 05:25.23 | drmessano | Which we said WONT WORK |
| 05:25.33 | drmessano | then you say youre going to take asterisk off it |
| 05:25.35 | drmessano | THEN WHAT? |
| 05:25.36 | sosoriri | oh.. |
| 05:25.50 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender, gotta admit, it's been an entertaining evening if nothing else! :-) |
| 05:25.53 | sosoriri | drmessano: thank u. |
| 05:25.55 | drmessano | You gonna access the cards with VIM and TYPE THE CALLS? |
| 05:26.01 | jaytee | hahaahahaa |
| 05:26.25 | sosoriri | i gonna access the cards throug chanzap, libss7 |
| 05:26.27 | drmessano | Shit, if you want it really fast |
| 05:26.32 | drmessano | and I mean REALLY FAST |
| 05:26.40 | drmessano | Get rid of the linux and use the BIOS |
| 05:26.45 | drmessano | No OS overhead |
| 05:26.45 | sosoriri | no routing. |
| 05:26.52 | sosoriri | really? |
| 05:27.06 | drmessano | No, not really.. not at all |
| 05:27.26 | drmessano | kisses sosoriri |
| 05:27.29 | drmessano | Man you are adorable |
| 05:27.31 | sosoriri | then, i think i can catch the voices |
| 05:27.38 | drmessano | Yes, catch them |
| 05:27.52 | sosoriri | and other pbx(not asterisk) can routing the calls. |
| 05:27.52 | jaytee | with nets! |
| 05:28.11 | drmessano | sosoriri: The recording is the most intensive thing you are gonna do |
| 05:28.18 | sosoriri | yes. |
| 05:28.20 | drmessano | and with that call volume it will crash and burn |
| 05:28.22 | [TK]D-Fender | sosoriri: You "think"? Why start now.. you're on a roll... |
| 05:28.29 | drmessano | The recording IS THE PROBLEM |
| 05:28.31 | jaytee | heheehee |
| 05:28.37 | drmessano | As is the VOLUME |
| 05:28.45 | sosoriri | yes. |
| 05:28.45 | drmessano | As is pretty much every part of your plan |
| 05:28.49 | jaytee | ROFLPIMP |
| 05:29.10 | drmessano | Youre putting 10000kg's on the back of a bicycle and asking "Why it slow?" |
| 05:29.16 | drmessano | Because Darwin said so. |
| 05:29.38 | sosoriri | oh |
| 05:29.39 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: Actually that would be "Why is flat like pancake, and whats that smell?" |
| 05:29.41 | drmessano | Im not sure how this can be explained any better |
| 05:29.46 | drmessano | LOL |
| 05:29.52 | jaytee | "you too fat!!! you go home now!!! all you can eat not mean fo'evah!!" |
| 05:30.21 | sosoriri | than, my question is chanzap, libs7 is possible for 4 El cards. |
| 05:30.24 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: heard John Pinette's comedy sketch on buffets? |
| 05:30.37 | jaytee | that's what it's from |
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| 05:30.55 | jaytee | "You know, Italy is only a 45 minute drive from here." |
| 05:31.17 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender, he's from my old stomping grounds back in Beantown. |
| 05:31.28 | [TK]D-Fender | sosoriri: last time : TOO MUCH MOTHERFUCKING LOAD FOR 1 SERVER YOU IDIOT. No there is no dodging this bullet, so PLEASE head your head properly centered for the shot. |
| 05:31.39 | [TK]D-Fender | </vent> |
| 05:32.01 | [TK]D-Fender | get* |
| 05:32.05 | sosoriri | [TK]D-Fender>okay, i rememter it. |
| 05:32.22 | [TK]D-Fender | sosoriri: it will CRUSH IT. |
| 05:32.45 | [TK]D-Fender | sosoriri: Dead halt. Nasty screetching sound... oh.. and then NO CALLS will get processed. |
| 05:33.14 | [TK]D-Fender | sosoriri: You should not have any role in dealing with this kind of project. You are a danger to it and any business dependant on it. |
| 05:33.39 | sosoriri | no.. |
| 05:33.44 | [TK]D-Fender | sosoriri: You make go find a spike and impale yourself upon is as a warning to others now. |
| 05:33.58 | [TK]D-Fender | may* |
| 05:35.01 | drmessano | sosoriri: Are you in middle management? |
| 05:35.36 | sosoriri | no. |
| 05:35.46 | drmessano | Upper management? |
| 05:35.49 | drmessano | Sales? |
| 05:35.58 | sosoriri | sales |
| 05:36.02 | drmessano | AHHHHHH |
| 05:36.08 | drmessano | SAY NO MORE |
| 05:36.36 | drmessano | I have got a GREAT idea |
| 05:36.46 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: So did Vlad... |
| 05:36.51 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: See above |
| 05:37.08 | drmessano | sosoriri: Give the folks at Fonality a call: http://www.fonality.com/ |
| 05:37.18 | drmessano | They can help you get this all going |
| 05:37.54 | drmessano | "No knowledge of asterisk required" is their motto |
| 05:38.28 | sosoriri | no. |
| 05:38.34 | drmessano | They mean it too |
| 05:38.40 | sosoriri | i use 4 asterisk servers now. |
| 05:38.48 | sosoriri | it's not possible. |
| 05:39.01 | sosoriri | i try to use these 4 cards. |
| 05:39.21 | sosoriri | thanku especially [TK]D-Fender, drmessano |
| 05:39.34 | ricko73 | [TK]D-Fender: this shit is still going on? |
| 05:39.35 | drmessano | Oh, you are SO very welcome, my good man |
| 05:39.39 | drmessano | Come again, anytime |
| 05:39.58 | jaytee | "Would you like fries with that?" |
| 05:39.59 | drmessano | You sir, are why we are here to help |
| 05:40.09 | jaytee | heheehee |
| 05:41.08 | [TK]D-Fender | is getting really sick of these visits to Retard Land |
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| 05:42.04 | drmessano | So let me get this right |
| 05:42.14 | drmessano | (4) 4-port E1 cards wont work |
| 05:42.25 | drmessano | But I can use (1) 16-port? |
| 05:42.28 | drmessano | Awesome |
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| 05:47.31 | jaytee | time for bed, nite all |
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| 06:08.20 | [TK]D-Fender | oK, I've definitely passed my idiot quota for 2009 early.... I'm off |
| 06:08.22 | [TK]D-Fender | later all |
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| 06:33.06 | drmessano | The first rule of Asterisk Club is |
| 06:33.15 | drmessano | ALL CIRCUITS ARE BUSY NOW |
| 06:34.20 | asteriskmonkey | second rule of cisco club is not knowing which country youll end up in when dialing support |
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| 06:48.11 | drmessano | LOL |
| 06:48.28 | drmessano | Cisco.. "We dont make the things you use. We just make them harder" |
| 06:48.55 | drmessano | Rest of the world ---> reboot |
| 06:50.34 | drmessano | Cisco --> en, set int boot yes, set int re yes, down int re, down int boot |
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| 08:33.21 | sosoriri | anybody can tell me Q931 to SS7 signaling convert source or program? |
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| 09:12.59 | hi365 | anyone good with a2billing? |
| 09:25.13 | Karlitoo-aw | good morning all |
| 09:26.12 | Karlitoo | another day another 5 instrallations of avaya g450 media gateway to go |
| 09:26.17 | Karlitoo | wait make that 6 |
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| 09:58.08 | hi365 | what is the dahdi version of genzaptelconf ? |
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| 10:23.23 | JonOnt | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:25.31 | Jas_Williams | JonOnt: How about exten _XXXX,1,Dial(Channel/18005551212ww${EXTEN}) |
| 10:25.44 | Jas_Williams | JonOnt: How about exten => _XXXX,1,Dial(Channel/18005551212ww${EXTEN}) |
| 10:25.47 | Jas_Williams | even |
| 10:26.18 | phpboy | When using hint, do I have to specify ever extension I'd like a notify on or is there a way to make it dynamic? |
| 10:28.39 | hi365 | phpboy: I belive you do (but you can try and runn the calls thru a macro to save you a winsy bit of effort) |
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| 10:29.57 | phpboy | hi365: I have some 90 channels or so that I'd like hint on... so you can imagine it's a bit of effort? |
| 10:30.10 | phpboy | or pehaps it'll make sense to simply put them into my dialplan? |
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| 10:31.58 | Jas_Williams | hi365: look at this page http://svn.digium.com/view/dahdi/tools/tags/2.0.0-rc2/UPGRADE.txt?view=co |
| 10:32.15 | Jas_Williams | looks like dahdi_genconf is what you need |
| 10:33.05 | hi365 | didnt work for me - didnt generate the files :( |
| 10:34.44 | hi365 | phpboy: its work indeed. thats why i use freepbx |
| 10:35.09 | phpboy | FreePBX is too heavy for my setup :( |
| 10:35.41 | phpboy | would've been nice to be able to do exten => _3XXX,hint,SIP/${EXTEN} |
| 10:35.41 | phpboy | :( |
| 10:35.51 | JonOnt | Jas_Williams: that could work, i know its not supported in here, but im using freepbx, this should go under [from-internal-custom] in extentions_custon.conf? |
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| 10:37.32 | Jas_Williams | JonOnt: under free pbx I would do it differently |
| 10:37.48 | Jas_Williams | hi365: http://docs.tzafrir.org.il/dahdi-tools/man/dahdi_genconf.8.html |
| 10:38.15 | hi365 | tried that as well |
| 10:38.35 | hi365 | dahdi_genconf chan_dahdi modules dahdi chan_dahdi_full |
| 10:38.44 | Jas_Williams | JonOnt: create an Outbound Route |
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| 10:40.42 | Jas_Williams | Dial Pattern XXXX|18005551212ww. |
| 10:42.46 | JonOnt | Jas_Williams: will that match 2222? |
| 10:43.02 | Jas_Williams | That will mach all 4 digits |
| 10:43.46 | Jas_Williams | if you only want 2222 then Dial Pattern shold be 2222|18005551212ww. |
| 10:44.34 | Jas_Williams | or 2222|18005551212ww2222 would also work |
| 10:45.44 | JonOnt | Jas_Williams: ohh, the . on the end is what fixes it |
| 10:46.09 | JonOnt | Jas_Williams; will i need another rule to let this true my trunk? |
| 10:46.37 | Jas_Williams | I dont think so try it and see |
| 10:47.31 | JonOnt | Jas_Williams: damn, wont let me put the ww in the Route |
| 10:49.24 | Jas_Williams | JonOnt: ah not sure how you get arround that one |
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| 10:54.57 | JonOnt | Jas_Williams: is this possible.. 18885551212.|18885551212ww. in my trunk and then have 18885551212+XXXX in my route? |
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| 10:57.25 | Jas_Williams | JonOnt: anything is possible :) can you have w in the route ? |
| 10:57.35 | Jas_Williams | sorry trunk |
| 10:57.47 | JonOnt | i can have the w in the trunk, but the setup above is not right |
| 10:57.58 | Jas_Williams | getting a bit confusing now |
| 11:01.15 | JonOnt | Jas_Williams: almost got it, i bet you can help, i put XXXX in my route, and now I need a dialplan string for my trunk that will add 18885551212ww+XXXX |
| 11:01.25 | JonOnt | ohh, that might be the string |
| 11:02.53 | JonOnt | dang, im getting an all circuts are busy msg |
| 11:03.31 | JonOnt | Maybe this wont work over sip |
| 11:03.45 | JonOnt | I bet it would work on POTS |
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| 11:04.03 | Jas_Williams | ww is only valid over pots |
| 11:04.12 | JonOnt | that explains it |
| 11:04.18 | Jas_Williams | you cannot put a wait on sip |
| 11:04.23 | JonOnt | so, no way to do this then |
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| 11:07.07 | hi365 | well, you might be able to send more digits down the channel a bit after you send the first part... maybe with the D option of dial? |
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| 11:08.21 | JonOnt | damn park button isnt working |
| 11:10.20 | hi365 | then get some of this: http://tinyurl.com/7uc5xa |
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| 11:52.32 | JonOnt | any one know what I need to set my park key in general settings to make it work? (aastra phone) |
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| 12:53.23 | SparFux | On the asterisk console I have problems with the alsa driver. I use hw:1,0 as input device and hw:0,0 as output and I can send audio, but I only receive strange noise. |
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| 12:56.00 | SparFux | Sound works though. I can use ecasound -i:rec.wav -o:alsahw,0,0 OR ecasound -i:alsahw,1,0 -o:alsahw,0,0 OR ecasound -i:alsahw,0,0 -o:alsahw,0,0 to the the desired results. |
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| 13:05.19 | Vyrus001 | anybody ever mess with the RAND or random asterisk function? for some reason im getting a "Function Random not registered" no matter how i call it? |
| 13:11.07 | RypPn | module show like rand |
| 13:11.29 | RypPn | I see app_random.so and func_rand.so |
| 13:12.00 | Vyrus001 | i just show the app |
| 13:12.04 | RypPn | I suspect you want the 2nd one :) |
| 13:12.27 | Vyrus001 | ic so im missing the func |
| 13:12.39 | Vyrus001 | <= asterisk N00b how would i go about installing the missing func? |
| 13:12.54 | RypPn | you'll need to recompile asterisk to select it |
| 13:13.10 | Vyrus001 | ouch, so much for distro binary's ;) |
| 13:13.35 | RypPn | hmm, not sure in that respect, I've always compiled it |
| 13:14.54 | Vyrus001 | hm |
| 13:19.03 | Vyrus001 | ahh ok |
| 13:19.10 | Vyrus001 | my asterisk is too old |
| 13:19.14 | Vyrus001 | need 1.4 or higher |
| 13:19.19 | Vyrus001 | im running 1.2 |
| 13:28.18 | schangmi | Hi |
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| 13:29.10 | schangmi | Is there a way of making Asterisk set up a dial up connection through a SIP channel ? |
| 13:29.28 | schangmi | I have come accross app_pppd but that one seems to work for ISDN only |
| 13:29.57 | schangmi | or is there any soft I could use to set up such a dial up connection |
| 13:31.05 | schangmi | assuming that I am in a configuration where therte is not POTS line, only got access to SIP channels through asterisk and I need to set up a dial up connection |
| 13:35.38 | lmadsen | I don't think thats really gonna work... |
| 13:35.57 | lmadsen | modem over a packet interface (IP) isn't really compatible |
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| 13:48.44 | SparFux | With chan_oss I get noisy channels, too. This time it is the outgoing channel, which is filled with scratchy noise. |
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| 13:58.56 | schangmi | lmadsen well it could work if I had that configuration <pc>-<modem><ATA><sip>....... |
| 13:59.21 | schangmi | lmadsen because then the the ATA would do the translation POTS to VOIP |
| 13:59.58 | schangmi | and if SIP/RTP is using G711 to carry the media then it should be OK (at least that's what I've read) |
| 14:00.28 | lmadsen | schangmi: ok, that could work... |
| 14:00.40 | schangmi | lmadsen now I want to remove the modem+ATA |
| 14:00.43 | lmadsen | but really... it'd just be another call through asterisk... |
| 14:00.47 | lmadsen | oh |
| 14:01.02 | schangmi | lmadsen well, it seems (after reading on the net) that if should work in theory |
| 14:01.05 | lmadsen | I don't think that application exists |
| 14:01.19 | schangmi | right, and that is why I was asking :) |
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| 14:02.31 | schangmi | the reason why I am asking that is that we have a client that has a "very secure" network and is afraid of introducing softphones into its LAN PCs as he is scared this may be used as a way to get access to the outside world (and back from outside to his LAN) through a ppp connection |
| 14:03.15 | schangmi | in theory, that shall work in most cases (i.e, as long as there is not a codec on its ways that compresses the media so much that nothing will remain left for data connection) |
| 14:03.42 | schangmi | but in most cases it seems that G711 is being used to make sure FAX keeps working too |
| 14:04.05 | schangmi | so, well, no one ever heard of piece of software that could do the job ? |
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| 14:10.15 | Katty | it's another wonderful day in hell. |
| 14:10.27 | Katty | no caffeine, no breakfast, no heat. |
| 14:10.51 | _ShrikE | give katty coffee, a donut, and a hug |
| 14:10.58 | Katty | there are friends tho. |
| 14:11.04 | Katty | so it is tolerable. |
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| 14:11.09 | Katty | hugs _ShrikE and jaytee |
| 14:11.33 | jaytee | hugs Katty |
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| 14:11.45 | Katty | hugs [intra]lanman |
| 14:12.11 | [intra]lanman | hugs Katty too |
| 14:12.17 | Katty | been stuck in a rut lately )= |
| 14:12.23 | [intra]lanman | hi Katty... how are ya? |
| 14:12.29 | [intra]lanman | oic |
| 14:12.39 | Katty | i think blergh covers it nicely. |
| 14:13.11 | [intra]lanman | i know that feeling |
| 14:13.18 | jaytee | hands Katty a cup of Costa Rica Finca Guadalupe roasted 18 hours ago and brewed less than 30 minutes ago |
| 14:13.46 | Katty | sounds yummy. |
| 14:14.06 | [intra]lanman | i want some |
| 14:14.24 | jaytee | "Life's to friggin short to drink bad coffee!" - jaytee |
| 14:14.33 | jaytee | t/to/too |
| 14:14.43 | jaytee | damn I can't type today |
| 14:14.48 | [intra]lanman | heheh |
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| 14:17.21 | Katty | hugs russellb |
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| 14:17.54 | eppigy | hello |
| 14:17.55 | eppigy | i am dave |
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| 14:18.36 | Katty | hi dave. |
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| 14:18.58 | eppigy | hi |
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| 14:19.18 | Dovid | Mantis is down ? |
| 14:19.58 | Katty | well hello to you too |
| 14:21.00 | eppigy | i get down |
| 14:21.08 | Dovid | ;) |
| 14:21.10 | Katty | i am down. |
| 14:21.13 | Dovid | wut went wrong |
| 14:21.13 | eppigy | true |
| 14:21.23 | Katty | my job went wrong |
| 14:21.27 | eppigy | o |
| 14:21.31 | eppigy | i meant like |
| 14:21.39 | eppigy | im down to ride till the sun burns out |
| 14:21.59 | eppigy | but I am sorry to hear about job troubles |
| 14:22.16 | eppigy | i have found that choking the life out of someone |
| 14:22.25 | eppigy | makes the outlook of any situation |
| 14:22.29 | eppigy | so much better |
| 14:22.49 | Dovid | when did mantis go down ? |
| 14:23.00 | jaytee | some of you missed a fun time last nite with [TK]D-Fender and drmessano spending at least a couple hours trying to explain to a complete idiot why putting 4 quad E1 cards in one Asterisk server and trying to record every call was a bad idea. |
| 14:23.37 | Katty | omg |
| 14:23.39 | Katty | EVERY call?! |
| 14:24.12 | Katty | was there some logical purpose behind that insanity? |
| 14:24.33 | eppigy | is there ever? |
| 14:24.48 | Katty | sometimes. |
| 14:25.08 | eppigy | this place attracts some people with strange goals |
| 14:25.22 | eppigy | HELLO I HAVE MY OWN NON PROFIT CONSULTING FIRM |
| 14:25.24 | Katty | my goal is to not shoot anyone. |
| 14:25.25 | eppigy | I AM ON SITE |
| 14:25.29 | eppigy | AT MY FIRST CLIENT |
| 14:25.35 | coppice | some finance people have a real need to record every call, and a lot of telephone betting people do too |
| 14:25.35 | eppigy | WHAT IS A T1 |
| 14:25.40 | Katty | hehehehe |
| 14:26.03 | eppigy | coppice: i record every call |
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| 14:26.13 | Katty | i only record calls from fender. |
| 14:26.17 | eppigy | i think they meant all ports simultanesouly |
| 14:26.24 | eppigy | or some crazy shit |
| 14:26.36 | eppigy | plus 4 cards |
| 14:26.42 | eppigy | is of course not a good idea |
| 14:26.47 | Katty | i'd like to see the hard drive capacity of that box. |
| 14:26.54 | schangmi | . |
| 14:27.02 | eppigy | I have 2 4 port pri cards |
| 14:27.08 | eppigy | my HD capacity is 1TB |
| 14:27.11 | eppigy | per pbx |
| 14:27.19 | Katty | we have a single pri here |
| 14:27.27 | Katty | and i think it's just an 80gb hard drive |
| 14:27.44 | Katty | but we don't do any crazy stuff |
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| 14:27.55 | lmadsen | attack hugs Katty |
| 14:27.57 | Katty | unless you couldn't my dail plan |
| 14:28.02 | Katty | my dial plan is crazy |
| 14:28.05 | Katty | hugs lmadsen |
| 14:28.09 | eppigy | we have to record every call |
| 14:28.13 | eppigy | for lawlsuits etc |
| 14:28.35 | Katty | sounds repulsive |
| 14:28.57 | eppigy | :D |
| 14:29.03 | echinos | how long do you need to keep the recordings for? |
| 14:29.08 | eppigy | backing them up is not fun |
| 14:29.14 | eppigy | indefinetly |
| 14:29.14 | echinos | i can imagine |
| 14:29.23 | Katty | what do you put them on |
| 14:29.25 | echinos | wha!? |
| 14:29.27 | echinos | dang/ |
| 14:29.27 | Katty | the archives |
| 14:29.38 | eppigy | 200gb tapes |
| 14:29.44 | eppigy | fuck |
| 14:29.49 | eppigy | what si the name of that shit |
| 14:29.51 | eppigy | HP |
| 14:29.54 | eppigy | ummm |
| 14:29.59 | echinos | LTO? |
| 14:30.15 | [TK]D-Fender | Yes |
| 14:30.16 | Katty | tapes?! )= |
| 14:30.17 | eppigy | yes |
| 14:30.18 | Katty | are you mad!? |
| 14:30.36 | echinos | Well, DVD would have been a wrong answer |
| 14:30.54 | echinos | tapes is arguably the best medium to use |
| 14:30.55 | [TK]D-Fender | eppigy: LTO = 100/200G, LTO2=200/400, LTO3=400/800 |
| 14:30.59 | Katty | are they like real tapes |
| 14:31.00 | eppigy | I only have to archive them every 4 months or so |
| 14:31.03 | Katty | or mass storage things |
| 14:31.09 | eppigy | [TK]D-Fender: LTO2=200/400 |
| 14:31.15 | [TK]D-Fender | Katty: TAPES Katty ... deal with it :p |
| 14:31.15 | eppigy | thank you for your pedantic input |
| 14:31.20 | Katty | AHHHHH |
| 14:31.20 | eppigy | you rat bastard |
| 14:31.24 | Katty | asplodees. |
| 14:31.35 | Katty | would not be able to sleep at night |
| 14:31.42 | eppigy | every four months |
| 14:31.46 | eppigy | I just set a job |
| 14:31.50 | stevetotaro | epiigy=alex |
| 14:31.51 | eppigy | and switch out two tapes |
| 14:31.54 | [TK]D-Fender | Katty: And what do YOU use for mass off-site storage & archiving? |
| 14:31.56 | eppigy | i mean |
| 14:31.57 | Katty | do your restores work okay? )= |
| 14:32.00 | eppigy | that is not bad people |
| 14:32.02 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: REV |
| 14:32.03 | eppigy | yesh |
| 14:32.12 | eppigy | I only have to restroe a few recordings |
| 14:32.17 | eppigy | if something goes down |
| 14:32.34 | Katty | amazing. i never have luck with restore jobs off tapes |
| 14:32.38 | [TK]D-Fender | Katty: http://store.iomega.com/section?secid=39499 |
| 14:32.42 | eppigy | well I mean |
| 14:32.47 | eppigy | if you have them catalogued |
| 14:32.49 | [TK]D-Fender | katkattThat junk? |
| 14:32.51 | eppigy | there should be no problem |
| 14:32.56 | stevetotaro | eppigy, i just picked up a very nice Russian AK-47 |
| 14:33.00 | [TK]D-Fender | dang... I'm skipping today |
| 14:33.03 | eppigy | very nice |
| 14:33.09 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: are you having tab completing problems? |
| 14:33.14 | eppigy | I need to get a new medium range weapon |
| 14:33.27 | Katty | a glock. |
| 14:33.33 | eppigy | that is short range |
| 14:33.33 | Katty | pink glock. |
| 14:33.38 | stevetotaro | no, an AK |
| 14:33.41 | eppigy | I mean like an ar-15 |
| 14:33.45 | [TK]D-Fender | Katty: that and a nasty stutter. Think I've been hit with food poisoning 2 nights back to back and I feel like I've been hit by a truck |
| 14:33.46 | stevetotaro | http://www.arsenalinc.com/news.htm#090820081 |
| 14:33.46 | mmlj4 | I have funs, me and my guns |
| 14:33.51 | stevetotaro | no a real AK |
| 14:33.55 | eppigy | yes |
| 14:33.55 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: :< |
| 14:34.03 | eppigy | that is a good buy |
| 14:34.08 | eppigy | the closest thing I have ever had |
| 14:34.16 | eppigy | to an AK is an SLR-95 MB |
| 14:34.20 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: did your family try to poison you over christmas? |
| 14:34.21 | eppigy | bulgarian clone |
| 14:34.29 | stevetotaro | great buy, prices keep skyrocketing too, because of Obama |
| 14:34.35 | eppigy | srsly |
| 14:34.40 | eppigy | I need to buy mine soon |
| 14:34.53 | SparFux | Anybody using chan_alsa instead of chan_oss? Incoming sound seems to be broken. |
| 14:35.01 | eppigy | if they put a high capacity ban on the table |
| 14:35.06 | eppigy | I am buying one that second |
| 14:35.08 | stevetotaro | I have a 380 with conceal permit, a mossberg 590 all tactical and the AK |
| 14:35.15 | eppigy | nice |
| 14:35.36 | stevetotaro | thing is, if it goes on the table, you wont be able to fiind one |
| 14:35.41 | eppigy | I have a concealed permit, kimber 1911, walther p99, springfield M1A, and mossberg persuader |
| 14:35.46 | mmlj4 | alls I got is a .22 bolt action and a ruger single six |
| 14:35.49 | eppigy | stevetotaro: probably right |
| 14:35.49 | stevetotaro | and if you do, it will be at scalper prices |
| 14:35.56 | Katty | what do you plan on doing with all those guns? |
| 14:36.01 | eppigy | yeah I guess I should be proactive about it |
| 14:36.08 | stevetotaro | ready for the revolution |
| 14:36.10 | eppigy | Katty: when the apocalypse comes |
| 14:36.17 | eppigy | i will be ready |
| 14:36.24 | Katty | are you also stock piling water? |
| 14:36.27 | Katty | and canned food |
| 14:36.27 | eppigy | ^___________^ |
| 14:36.28 | Katty | and ammo |
| 14:36.29 | mmlj4 | pea shooters won't work against tanks, sorry |
| 14:36.43 | stevetotaro | <-- well water, high water table |
| 14:36.57 | Katty | better be careful |
| 14:37.00 | eppigy | mmlj4: well i guess i'll have to stock up on javelins then |
| 14:37.01 | eppigy | jesus |
| 14:37.03 | Katty | people will kill over fresh water (= |
| 14:37.04 | stevetotaro | but yes, i have MREs and gallons oand gallons of water |
| 14:37.31 | stevetotaro | who said anything about tanks |
| 14:37.43 | mmlj4 | so... are you guys expecting Zero to send tanks? |
| 14:37.56 | stevetotaro | i am talking about the martin luther king riots times 1000 |
| 14:38.14 | stevetotaro | sorry, king jr |
| 14:38.22 | eppigy | i just holla all day |
| 14:38.26 | eppigy | the basic idea here |
| 14:38.33 | eppigy | is it is better to have an not need them |
| 14:38.35 | mmlj4 | why would king roit? his boy is in the white^formerly white house |
| 14:38.36 | eppigy | than to need them |
| 14:38.39 | eppigy | and not have them |
| 14:38.44 | eppigy | lets be honest with ourselves |
| 14:38.55 | Katty | is honest with herself |
| 14:38.55 | eppigy | and they dont cost as much as a porsche |
| 14:39.00 | stevetotaro | no, if and when someone caps Obama |
| 14:39.00 | mmlj4 | stirs |
| 14:39.11 | stevetotaro | this nation will go into civial war |
| 14:39.20 | Katty | i don't think it will be civil this time. |
| 14:39.23 | eppigy | stevetotaro: how did you know i was in to guns? |
| 14:39.30 | Katty | i think all sorts of things will be dragged into it |
| 14:39.31 | eppigy | what other channel do I know you from? |
| 14:39.44 | stevetotaro | i didn't eppigy |
| 14:39.48 | eppigy | o |
| 14:39.49 | Katty | ponders |
| 14:39.57 | Katty | why would work take off thursday, new years, but not friday? |
| 14:39.58 | stevetotaro | just assumed you could appreciate a real AK |
| 14:40.05 | Katty | do they seriously expect us to work after being drunk all night? |
| 14:40.05 | mmlj4 | well, that's a scenario... but I want to go on record, Mr. secret service agent, I have no interest in capping anyone |
| 14:40.06 | eppigy | well I do |
| 14:40.10 | eppigy | that is very perceptive |
| 14:40.15 | stix_ | great with a civil war when all you gun-maniacs have arsenals of weapons |
| 14:40.23 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender, good morning! hey, I wanted to ask your advice! Do you think it would be ok to put 4 quad E1 cards in my Asterisk box and record all the calls? :-) |
| 14:40.32 | Katty | it's one thing to stockpile weapons for a war |
| 14:40.45 | Katty | quite another when you stockpile it for your family's defense, should your neighbors feel like rioting |
| 14:40.45 | eppigy | jaytee: you forgot to tell him you are running a xeon p3 |
| 14:40.45 | stix_ | you would be better off if it was illegal to own guns |
| 14:40.49 | [TK]D-Fender | kicks jaytee in the nads |
| 14:40.52 | stevetotaro | i wish Obama well but about 60 miles from DC is the headquarters of the KKK |
| 14:40.55 | jaytee | owee!!!! |
| 14:40.56 | Katty | i don't |
| 14:41.00 | mmlj4 | you guys must've got the KGB memo from last week, with all this civil war talk |
| 14:41.04 | stix_ | the rest of the world thinks that americans are crazy |
| 14:41.05 | Katty | we should be able to own guns |
| 14:41.13 | Katty | if nothing more than the over throw the government if they get out of hand |
| 14:41.16 | Katty | without that--we'd be SOL |
| 14:41.23 | stevetotaro | all these knuckle heads have to do not use the phone or internet |
| 14:41.28 | Katty | they already took away the state milita |
| 14:41.42 | Katty | well its just not controlled by the state |
| 14:42.08 | stevetotaro | you also have the faction that is very un-happy with the government, and in my opinion, rightfully so |
| 14:42.30 | eppigy | everyone is lulled in to a state of sleepy consumerism |
| 14:42.40 | stevetotaro | over throw the government is a far cry from civial or should I say racial war |
| 14:42.45 | eppigy | and they react to fear |
| 14:42.59 | Katty | everyone reacts to fear |
| 14:43.12 | eppigy | ok maybe I worded that wrong |
| 14:43.21 | stevetotaro | chuck norris doesn't react to fear |
| 14:43.25 | eppigy | true |
| 14:43.32 | stevetotaro | ~chucknorris |
| 14:43.33 | jbot | Chuck Norris moves at two speeds: Walk and kill. |
| 14:43.46 | mmlj4 | Biden did say that in 6 months (he said 2 months ago) that there would be an attack against the US |
| 14:44.06 | mmlj4 | if you want conspiracy, look there... sounds to me like they have a plan |
| 14:44.11 | stevetotaro | look at the middle east |
| 14:44.18 | stevetotaro | pakiistan vs india |
| 14:44.29 | stevetotaro | pulling all calll center operations |
| 14:44.34 | stevetotaro | and outsourcing |
| 14:44.51 | stevetotaro | couldn't they just be happy to have a middlle class boom |
| 14:45.10 | stevetotaro | instead of a bomb boom |
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| 14:45.29 | eppigy | they are constnantly claiming there is going to be an attack on US soil |
| 14:45.38 | stevetotaro | easy enough |
| 14:45.44 | stevetotaro | the ports are sadly lacking |
| 14:46.01 | eppigy | there have been like no unsophisticated attacks by foreign terrorists to my knowledge |
| 14:46.04 | eppigy | on US soil |
| 14:46.08 | eppigy | and then one day out of the blue |
| 14:46.13 | eppigy | a higly sohpisticated |
| 14:46.18 | eppigy | well planned attack occurs |
| 14:46.22 | eppigy | doubtful |
| 14:46.23 | [TK]D-Fender | eppigy: So far there has been 1 substantial hit in 2001.... infinitely more people die to smoking than terrorism in North America and the gov't wants you to cower. Fuck'em. |
| 14:46.23 | stevetotaro | best thing they could have done is leave a good size c4 chuck in a trash can during Christmas rush |
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| 14:46.42 | eppigy | [TK]D-Fender: thatys what im sayin |
| 14:46.54 | eppigy | but no |
| 14:47.08 | eppigy | "pPLEASE TAKE SOME OF MY CIVILI RIGHTS" |
| 14:47.09 | mmlj4 | seriously, I'm against this kind of talk, I want it known |
| 14:47.13 | mmlj4 | later |
| 14:47.15 | *** part/#asterisk mmlj4 (n=jkelly@ip70-171-94-246.no.no.cox.net) |
| 14:47.16 | eppigy | SO THIS NEVER HAPPEBNS AGAIN |
| 14:47.17 | [TK]D-Fender | eppigy: And thats if you don't believe that it was a CIA job, etc |
| 14:47.27 | eppigy | yeah dude |
| 14:47.34 | eppigy | some backwoods farmers |
| 14:47.36 | stevetotaro | (9:47:09 AM) mmlj4: seriously, I'm against this kind of talk, I want it known |
| 14:47.43 | eppigy | dont learn how to fly commercial airliners |
| 14:47.50 | stevetotaro | censorship? |
| 14:47.50 | eppigy | at a little flight school |
| 14:47.54 | eppigy | with cesna |
| 14:47.56 | eppigy | s |
| 14:48.01 | eppigy | single engine plains |
| 14:48.11 | stevetotaro | just watch out for thermite, that is all i am saying |
| 14:48.21 | Katty | let's not talk about this. |
| 14:48.25 | Katty | it's depressing. |
| 14:48.30 | Katty | let's talk about geeky stuff. |
| 14:48.34 | eppigy | mmlj4 was in favor of both patriot acts |
| 14:48.37 | stevetotaro | reality can be depressing, yes |
| 14:48.39 | eppigy | apparently |
| 14:48.55 | eppigy | well that is the problem |
| 14:48.59 | eppigy | americans are like |
| 14:49.04 | eppigy | dont tell me whats wrong |
| 14:49.09 | eppigy | tell me about old navy fleece |
| 14:49.28 | eppigy | ok |
| 14:49.39 | eppigy | so i got a wii for christmas |
| 14:49.42 | eppigy | ^______________^ |
| 14:50.13 | stevetotaro | i got some 30 round mags for the AK and 1,250 rounds FMJ |
| 14:50.21 | eppigy | lol |
| 14:50.31 | eppigy | true |
| 14:51.10 | stevetotaro | there was a coupon in the box for 50% off, email akstalker.yahoo.com |
| 14:51.16 | stintel | Katty: good idea :] |
| 14:51.24 | stintel | eppigy: can you run * on it ? |
| 14:51.26 | stintel | :] |
| 14:51.36 | stevetotaro | i emailed hiim and he first said he could modify and refinish it |
| 14:51.57 | eppigy | stintel: no i do that on my PS3 |
| 14:52.04 | stintel | eppigy: oh hehe ツ |
| 14:52.07 | eppigy | no |
| 14:52.10 | stevetotaro | i never replied, then he sent another email inferring he could makke if full auto |
| 14:52.10 | eppigy | that is too geeky |
| 14:52.13 | eppigy | lets be real here |
| 14:52.15 | eppigy | but you can |
| 14:52.28 | stintel | geeky is fine ;) |
| 14:52.39 | eppigy | stevetotaro: lol |
| 14:52.41 | eppigy | full auto |
| 14:52.55 | eppigy | full auto AK is like a rabid dog |
| 14:53.23 | stevetotaro | i wish i could set it for three or five round bursts |
| 14:53.24 | eppigy | stintel: have you seen the ps3 clusters? |
| 14:53.32 | stintel | eppigy: nope |
| 14:53.35 | eppigy | that is pretty wild |
| 14:53.42 | eppigy | they install sundog linux on them |
| 14:53.44 | eppigy | whoops |
| 14:53.46 | eppigy | yellowdog |
| 14:55.50 | stintel | yellowdog |
| 14:55.50 | stintel | hmmm |
| 14:55.57 | stintel | those wankers who created yum |
| 14:56.05 | stintel | yum is teh suck |
| 14:56.10 | stintel | yum install apt :] |
| 14:56.15 | stevetotaro | yum works well |
| 14:56.23 | stintel | yum is braindead |
| 14:56.31 | stintel | and slower than emerge on gentoo :P |
| 14:56.32 | stevetotaro | yum install apt-get |
| 14:56.37 | stintel | 30|15:56:10 < stintel> yum install apt :] |
| 14:56.38 | stintel | ツ |
| 14:57.11 | eppigy | i like yum |
| 14:57.24 | stevetotaro | yes, yum works well for me as well |
| 14:57.24 | eppigy | but that is because i use redhat/centos |
| 14:57.31 | keith4 | nobody likes yum |
| 14:57.36 | keith4 | don't be ridiculous |
| 14:57.38 | stintel | I like jam :P |
| 14:57.39 | eppigy | keith4: nobody likes you |
| 14:57.43 | keith4 | awww |
| 14:57.46 | eppigy | BOOYA |
| 14:57.50 | stevetotaro | only issues i hate are installing VLC and other things not in the official repos |
| 14:57.55 | stevetotaro | it breaks stuff |
| 14:57.55 | stintel | but really, yum is incredibly slow compared to apt |
| 14:58.07 | keith4 | you could never "like" yum, after using apt |
| 14:58.16 | eppigy | I only use it to install basic stuff |
| 14:58.19 | stintel | it's really very frustrating if you get from apt to yum ツ |
| 14:58.22 | eppigy | everything I compile |
| 14:58.33 | eppigy | or get a precompiled binary such as mysql |
| 14:58.36 | stevetotaro | yum works fine |
| 14:58.58 | stevetotaro | yum -y update |
| 14:59.10 | stintel | and yum-fastestmirror was a nice addon |
| 14:59.22 | stevetotaro | or yum -y update --exclude=kernel* |
| 14:59.30 | eppigy | BOOYA |
| 14:59.41 | stintel | but I prefer to use just one mirror that is geographically pretty right next to me ツ |
| 15:00.21 | stevetotaro | as long as it is fast and the MD5 matches, i download from france |
| 15:00.34 | stevetotaro | might as well eat their bandwidth |
| 15:00.38 | stintel | hehe |
| 15:00.55 | stintel | downloading from ftp.nl.debian.org mostly ツ |
| 15:01.59 | stintel | belgian mirror sucks donkeyballs |
| 15:03.01 | keith4 | i use debian.lcs.mit.edu |
| 15:03.24 | keith4 | since it's accessible via I2, and can give me > 10MB/s |
| 15:03.26 | stintel | lol |
| 15:03.28 | stintel | 11 sl-crs2-spr-0-1-0-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.21.13) -0.037 ms -233.803 ms -0.035 ms |
| 15:03.39 | stintel | nice response times for transatlantic traffic :P |
| 15:04.01 | stintel | mumbles sumthing about Xen and domU clock issues |
| 15:04.42 | Karlitoo | well after a few hours another 3 avaya g450 media gateways packed with modules, installed, licenced and ready to go, and another 8 packed to get installed and licenced |
| 15:04.49 | Karlitoo | man that takes hours |
| 15:06.24 | Karlitoo | in all that time I coulda had 20 asterisk servers up and running |
| 15:06.38 | Karlitoo | (even on a same machine if it needed doen) |
| 15:06.39 | Karlitoo | lol |
| 15:08.25 | *** join/#asterisk drfreeze (n=Jim@207.191.114.82) |
| 15:08.36 | drfreeze | Hello |
| 15:09.27 | drfreeze | Is there a way to kill a 'stuck' call. I have a phone that still thinks it is in voicemail. I have rebooted the phone, but no change to the call status still. |
| 15:09.31 | drfreeze | SIP/508-b7600468 599@sipinternal:4 Up VoiceMailMain() |
| 15:09.55 | stevetotaro | softhangup might work |
| 15:10.05 | *** part/#asterisk Ericounet (n=Ericoune@ACaen-151-1-79-207.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 15:10.10 | stevetotaro | but on reboot, i would expect that to kill the channel |
| 15:10.43 | [TK]D-Fender | drfreeze: "soft hangup SIP/508-b7600468" |
| 15:11.04 | drfreeze | tried the soft hangup - call is still there |
| 15:11.29 | drfreeze | SIP/508-b7600468 599@sipinternal:4 Up VoiceMailMain() |
| 15:11.47 | stevetotaro | noload voicemail in modules.conf and restart |
| 15:12.05 | stevetotaro | have you gone to exten 599 to see what's up? |
| 15:12.24 | drfreeze | stevetotaro: 599 is just a voicemail extension |
| 15:12.30 | drfreeze | no actual phone |
| 15:12.37 | stevetotaro | oh 508 then |
| 15:12.45 | stevetotaro | maybe the VM button is stuck |
| 15:12.52 | drfreeze | 508 is working fine. Even just rebooted it |
| 15:12.58 | [TK]D-Fender | drfreeze: Issue an AMI redirect then and toss it into a Hangup |
| 15:14.08 | stevetotaro | what version of asterisk, what kind of phone?? |
| 15:15.03 | [TK]D-Fender | Phone doesn't matter, the channel is jut hung |
| 15:15.16 | [TK]D-Fender | So just drop it off a cliff |
| 15:15.58 | stevetotaro | since when to channels remain after a reboot |
| 15:16.04 | drfreeze | [TK]D-Fender: sorry, don't know how to do AMI stuff easily. Can I do that from the console? |
| 15:16.17 | madsara | Hmmm... I'm on a local LAN using a softphone to connect to a new asterisk install... dialing 500 for the demo claims to |
| 15:16.18 | [TK]D-Fender | drfreeze: Telnet |
| 15:16.18 | Nugget | telnet is eeeeeeevil! |
| 15:16.23 | drfreeze | stevetotaro: can't reboot just now. Too many calls |
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| 15:16.41 | drfreeze | [TK]D-Fender: let me just whip that out.... |
| 15:16.52 | stevetotaro | gotcha, but you said already rebooted, was it just the phone or the * box |
| 15:17.01 | madsara | play the audio, but I've got nothing. There is no soundcard in the ast box, but that shouldn't matter. |
| 15:17.24 | stevetotaro | reload sip |
| 15:17.30 | [TK]D-Fender | madsara: then prove your PC with the softphone's audio is fully functional. |
| 15:17.30 | drfreeze | stevetotaro: the phone. Have a 'restart when convenient' in place, but that may not go off until 6pm |
| 15:17.34 | stevetotaro | nah, that won't work |
| 15:17.49 | madsara | Yeah. |
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| 15:17.54 | madsara | I'll do that. |
| 15:18.04 | Karlitoo | madsara check using 1 by 1 audio codec and check debugs to see if the call is going trough |
| 15:18.19 | madsara | I'm actually listening to teh RTP stream that was sent off the ast box now, see what was sent that way. |
| 15:19.57 | stevetotaro | if it is not interfering with anything, let it go |
| 15:20.06 | stevetotaro | before you bring down a live system |
| 15:20.21 | eppigy | TRABAJO |
| 15:20.27 | drfreeze | :( talky*CLI> module unload app_voicemail.so |
| 15:20.27 | drfreeze | Unable to unload resource app_voicemail.so |
| 15:20.49 | stevetotaro | dude, just leave it |
| 15:21.08 | madsara | Yeah, actually restarting the softphone worked [TK]D-Fender - thanks. |
| 15:21.23 | stevetotaro | i have these things are nothing new, don't break the system to fix a stuck channel |
| 15:21.33 | [TK]D-Fender | drfreeze: Use AMI to redirect to a hangup and be done with it |
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| 15:27.49 | Breal | Are telephone numbers transmitted in MGCP RTP packets? |
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| 15:43.06 | drfreeze | [TK]D-Fender: no luck. Call is still stuck |
| 15:43.18 | drfreeze | looks like I'm going to have to restart asterisk |
| 15:45.16 | eppigy | kill -9 |
| 15:45.19 | eppigy | LETS DO THIS |
| 15:46.06 | drfreeze | :) |
| 15:46.37 | Dovid | pinging tzafrir |
| 15:47.03 | Breal | Are telephone numbers transmitted in MGCP RTP packets? |
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| 15:50.27 | Katty | :< |
| 15:51.54 | drfreeze | Hey, any reason why vm would hangup after entering the password? |
| 15:52.06 | drfreeze | This just started doing this yesterday at noon |
| 15:52.12 | seanbright | drfreeze: yes |
| 15:52.17 | seanbright | drfreeze: you're missing a sound file |
| 15:52.29 | seanbright | vm-temp-intro or something like that |
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| 15:55.12 | seanbright | vm-tmpexists (i think) |
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| 16:02.38 | drfreeze | seanbright: so that file probably got deleted somehow? |
| 16:02.45 | seanbright | drfreeze: or never got installed |
| 16:02.56 | drfreeze | seanbright: it's worked for 3 years |
| 16:03.15 | Corydon76-dig | It's possible nobody used that feature until now |
| 16:04.14 | drfreeze | -rw-rw-r-- 1 1000 1000 89002 Feb 20 2007 /var/lib/asterisk/sounds/vm-intro.wav |
| 16:04.26 | drfreeze | Corydon76-dig: used what feature? |
| 16:10.20 | drfreeze | found the problem |
| 16:10.30 | drfreeze | there were two .lock files hanging around after the restart |
| 16:10.39 | drfreeze | thanks all. :) |
| 16:10.46 | drfreeze | Happy Holidays! |
| 16:11.50 | Katty | hugs drfreeze |
| 16:11.53 | Katty | merry christmas!!!! |
| 16:13.07 | stintel | a bit late, no ? |
| 16:13.16 | stintel | or early :P |
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| 16:20.37 | Dovid | sorry for asking here but the gui channel is dead. the gui does not see my dahdi harware but asterisk its self does. what files can i edit to "fool the gui " so it will see it ? |
| 16:21.19 | seanbright | Dovid: have you asked in #asterisk-gui? |
| 16:21.21 | seanbright | teehee |
| 16:21.33 | Dovid | yes |
| 16:21.56 | Dovid | no one is talking there. gona ask there again |
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| 16:40.06 | path_ | what would you recommend for GUI interface ? |
| 16:40.44 | path_ | I'm using digium asterisk gui |
| 16:41.34 | ManxPower | We are not 2nd tier support for Asterisk-GUI. |
| 16:42.06 | mort_gib | path_: bash |
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| 16:45.30 | Maliuta_CA | path_: vim |
| 16:46.12 | mort_gib | Maliuta_CA: vim? Tell me more :-) |
| 16:46.27 | Maliuta_CA | or you can just modify the behaviour of butterflies so the chaos effect can have the earths magnetic sphere do all your changes for you |
| 16:46.55 | Maliuta_CA | mort_gib: :w! :o |
| 16:47.29 | mort_gib | :-) |
| 16:47.52 | mort_gib | Been doing Ipsec VPn on openBSD all day! |
| 16:48.10 | mort_gib | Ready for beer! |
| 16:48.21 | Maliuta_CA | mort_gib: I would be after that too |
| 16:48.52 | mort_gib | Yeah, it's okay though, but i had to do several links while lusers are out of the office.... |
| 16:49.28 | Maliuta_CA | I'm screwing with someones network right now |
| 16:49.44 | Maliuta_CA | it's a mine site, I shouldn't be able to get the access I'm getting |
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| 16:50.08 | mort_gib | Screwing is a very precise term, not much traffic has bee flowing today :-) -Lot's of unhappy MS AD servers |
| 16:50.23 | Maliuta_CA | keeps his mouth shut 'lest they offer him a job |
| 16:50.47 | Maliuta_CA | don't want to work in the middle of buggery, and I don't think they'd be willing to pay me enough |
| 16:51.03 | mort_gib | I run my own outfit |
| 16:51.36 | mort_gib | So I pass on the aggro to my clients as invoices... |
| 16:51.37 | Maliuta_CA | mort_gib: I'm visiting my parents in the north of Alberta, Canada ... dad works on the mine here |
| 16:51.59 | *** part/#asterisk dazwin (n=warnerd@rrcs-24-43-84-107.west.biz.rr.com) |
| 16:52.10 | mort_gib | So, you are reworking their network?? |
| 16:52.25 | Katty | hmm. what do i want for lunch today |
| 16:52.27 | mort_gib | Well at least the mine is not in Russia.... |
| 16:52.29 | thehar | food |
| 16:52.31 | thehar | you want food |
| 16:52.34 | Maliuta_CA | "passively probing" |
| 16:52.36 | Katty | what sort of foods |
| 16:52.44 | thehar | is it cold today? |
| 16:52.50 | Katty | a bit |
| 16:52.52 | Maliuta_CA | thehar: -30 outside |
| 16:53.03 | thehar | well it's cold here.. but perhaps not all of you are _here_ |
| 16:53.07 | Maliuta_CA | Katty! |
| 16:53.31 | thehar | Katty should get soup and sammich. |
| 16:53.32 | Maliuta_CA | thehar: no, you're not _here_ |
| 16:53.44 | Katty | that does sound good |
| 16:53.52 | Katty | maybe i'll run to panera's for lunch |
| 16:53.57 | Maliuta_CA | Katty: get the apple and rhubarb stuffed quail :) |
| 16:54.21 | stevetotaro | ewwww |
| 16:54.28 | Maliuta_CA | yummm |
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| 16:54.48 | Maliuta_CA | it was apple and something stuffed |
| 16:54.49 | Katty | hmm. broccoli cheddar soup |
| 16:54.52 | stevetotaro | forget the rhubarb |
| 16:54.54 | thehar | mmmm |
| 16:55.04 | thehar | and a ham n cheese grilled panini |
| 16:56.21 | Maliuta_CA | my head just popped |
| 16:56.47 | Maliuta_CA | I read a topic on the linuxdvb mailing list and thought someone was talking about one of my systems |
| 16:57.12 | Katty | heh. |
| 16:57.17 | Katty | you're reading linux forums |
| 16:57.22 | Katty | i'm reading world of warcraft forums |
| 16:57.33 | Katty | i think i'm in the wrong channel ;) |
| 16:57.42 | Maliuta_CA | I name all my machines after cities in the ukraine, and the network is called ukraine ... I read "dvb-t config for Ukraine_Kiev (ua)" |
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| 16:57.57 | Maliuta_CA | Katty: not forums, mailing lists |
| 16:58.25 | Maliuta_CA | fora are for shit for brains |
| 16:58.34 | Maliuta_CA | :) |
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| 17:02.57 | L|NUX | Hello Every one |
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| 17:03.40 | Maliuta_CA | suspects the desktop in .au is having mega issues |
| 17:04.22 | Maliuta_CA | went offline after I'd been gone a week, only came backup after blackouts (power to the house cycled) and now a bunch of stuff is in 'D' states |
| 17:05.10 | L|NUX | can some one help me with http://rafb.net/p/cFF8XV90.html |
| 17:06.15 | L|NUX | any one ? |
| 17:06.15 | L|NUX | :$ |
| 17:06.31 | [TK]D-Fender | L|NUX: OPTIONS sip:8801730112059@203.188.250.202:8891 SIP/2.0 <-- these are QUALIFY packets, not CALLS |
| 17:06.37 | [TK]D-Fender | \l\Dialplan means nothing. |
| 17:06.45 | lmadsen | [TK]D-Fender: what's a qualify? |
| 17:06.45 | Katty | mmkay then |
| 17:06.50 | lmadsen | ducks |
| 17:06.50 | Katty | guess i'll go get some lunch |
| 17:06.52 | Katty | afks |
| 17:07.04 | lmadsen | is looking for a razor scooter |
| 17:07.42 | L|NUX | [TK]D-Fender: but when i call from other sip services it hit server and dial number |
| 17:09.14 | L|NUX | any idea ? |
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| 17:10.30 | L|NUX | [TK]D-Fender: come on give me guidence :) |
| 17:10.36 | [TK]D-Fender | L|NUX: That statement made no sense and you aren't showing a call attempt and I don't trust that little dialplan fragment anyways. There's an idea... |
| 17:11.19 | L|NUX | see i can paste my sip.conf, extensions.conf, zapata.conf and zaptel.conf |
| 17:11.25 | L|NUX | hold for sec |
| 17:11.35 | [TK]D-Fender | L|NUX: NO |
| 17:11.40 | L|NUX | then |
| 17:11.43 | [TK]D-Fender | l\you are not showing a CALL |
| 17:11.52 | L|NUX | its not coming |
| 17:11.55 | L|NUX | this is the issue :( |
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| 17:12.07 | L|NUX | but i can call from other services like gtalk2voip |
| 17:12.11 | L|NUX | and other sip |
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| 17:12.21 | [TK]D-Fender | L|NUX: * can only reject calls. If * isn't getting a call then go fix the OTHER SIDE |
| 17:12.24 | L|NUX | can some one try to dial sip:8801730112059@203.188.250.202:8891 |
| 17:13.32 | L|NUX | [TK]D-Fender: you know they do not give root access to VM |
| 17:14.04 | [TK]D-Fender | L|NUX: You talk like I should already know everything about your setup |
| 17:14.13 | L|NUX | ahhh |
| 17:14.48 | L|NUX | [TK]D-Fender: sorry, i have mentioned that we are trying to send calls from VoiceMaster and CPM gateway but its not coming to * |
| 17:14.52 | [TK]D-Fender | L|NUX: And I do not care what they do and do not let you do. If you can't control your own setup enough to do a controlled test then noone can help you |
| 17:15.15 | [TK]D-Fender | L|NUX: fix the sender |
| 17:15.21 | [TK]D-Fender | L|NUX: Check your firewalls |
| 17:16.30 | L|NUX | [TK]D-Fender: ok sir :) |
| 17:16.42 | L|NUX | [TK]D-Fender: thank you for help and happy holidays :) |
| 17:18.46 | NovceGuru | hai I need asterisk server for 500 softphone users setup today how install do I asterisk |
| 17:19.00 | L|NUX | yes |
| 17:19.05 | L|NUX | use realtime :) |
| 17:19.27 | feeds | NovceGuru: woah |
| 17:20.08 | feeds | I'm stuck with asterisk 2-3 months and today, I finally installed all the parts I wanted ;) |
| 17:26.30 | Maliuta_CA | NovceGuru: you pay me mucho denero and I do it for you ... I'm on holidays though, so it's the major "fuck off" rates :) |
| 17:26.59 | L|NUX | Maliuta_CA: lol |
| 17:28.24 | Maliuta_CA | L|NUX: as a consultant you learn to charge different ppl different rates and different rates for different jobs ... everybody has a "fuck off" rate |
| 17:29.02 | Qwell | Maliuta_CA: and when you get that rate... happy holidays indeed :D |
| 17:29.13 | Maliuta_CA | L|NUX: it's what you charge that you don't expect people to be willing to pay ... sometimes it's not high enough though and you end up doing the job at quadruple rates or something |
| 17:29.39 | L|NUX | Maliuta_CA: i hope i will become consultant as i do have 10 years working experience not in the field of telecommunication however i know how to make things work and i never forget people who helped me out to reach this place :) |
| 17:29.43 | Maliuta_CA | Qwell: the point is it should be high enough that they don't take it |
| 17:30.01 | Qwell | like I said |
| 17:30.05 | Qwell | but when they do...hooray |
| 17:30.09 | L|NUX | Maliuta_CA: i agree with you :) |
| 17:30.22 | L|NUX | Qwell: do you have some commission :P |
| 17:30.31 | L|NUX | Qwell: just joking :) |
| 17:32.10 | Maliuta_CA | L|NUX: I'm a *nix sysadmin, I do all sorts of stuff. No windows anymore though |
| 17:32.25 | L|NUX | Maliuta_CA: same here :) |
| 17:32.48 | L|NUX | Maliuta_CA: but i reside in PK and make low income :) |
| 17:33.11 | Maliuta_CA | L|NUX: I have been underpaid most of my career |
| 17:33.26 | L|NUX | Maliuta_CA: and now a days there is global economic crisis |
| 17:33.37 | L|NUX | so companies are down sizing :) |
| 17:33.50 | Maliuta_CA | L|NUX: it was only a couple of years back I figured what I'm actually worth and what my work is like in comparison to most other people in the field |
| 17:33.50 | L|NUX | Maliuta_CA: :) |
| 17:34.10 | L|NUX | Maliuta_CA: how you realized that ? |
| 17:34.23 | L|NUX | can we do talk in pm ? |
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| 18:02.09 | path_ | is there a manual way to register a trunk? |
| 18:02.13 | path_ | through CLI? |
| 18:02.41 | path_ | when I log into my asterisk gui there are some unregistered trunks |
| 18:03.09 | *** join/#asterisk fakhir (n=fakhir@unaffiliated/fakhir) |
| 18:04.17 | path_ | in what file I add trunks ? |
| 18:06.53 | path_ | sip.conf? |
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| 18:11.06 | ziro_axis | hello all |
| 18:14.09 | ziro_axis | i want to ask about the Hardware compatibility with astrisk now |
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| 18:14.29 | ziro_axis | i have DELL power edge 2000 |
| 18:14.42 | Qwell | ziro_axis: should work fine |
| 18:15.06 | ziro_axis | any one have experiance with *now installed on this machine |
| 18:15.16 | Katty | sighs |
| 18:15.22 | eppigy | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:15.22 | Katty | someone hire me. |
| 18:15.29 | eppigy | i will hire you |
| 18:15.35 | eppigy | i dont think you will like the work though |
| 18:15.36 | Katty | working in hell is not condusive to my health and general well being |
| 18:15.47 | Katty | that's okay. |
| 18:15.54 | Katty | i have faith jaytee will get me a job at the zoo. |
| 18:15.59 | eppigy | true |
| 18:16.03 | eppigy | then you can see aminals |
| 18:16.17 | Katty | i think i'd be happier at a zoo |
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| 18:19.23 | Katty | my company sent someone to my HOME last wednesday to look for me because i didn't answer my phone while i was in the shower. |
| 18:19.30 | Katty | apparently there was an Urgent Problem |
| 18:19.36 | Katty | that needed my IMMEDIATE attention. |
| 18:19.40 | eppigy | wow |
| 18:19.44 | eppigy | that is really scary |
| 18:19.45 | Katty | despite the fact everyone knew i was going to a family gathering |
| 18:19.48 | path_ | and thanks for the attencion btw |
| 18:19.49 | path_ | :D |
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| 18:20.07 | eppigy | path_: dog what si your definition of a trunk |
| 18:20.07 | Katty | sighs |
| 18:20.12 | eppigy | also: |
| 18:20.13 | seanbright | i'm just thinking about Katty in the shower |
| 18:20.15 | Katty | eppigy: what i make is even scarier. |
| 18:20.16 | eppigy | ~book |
| 18:20.17 | jbot | it has been said that book is probably Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF at http://www.asteriskdocs.org --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com or see ~buybook |
| 18:20.23 | Katty | seanbright: don't do that. |
| 18:20.26 | seanbright | heh |
| 18:20.32 | seanbright | too late |
| 18:20.33 | seanbright | brb |
| 18:20.34 | eppigy | is Katty a hot little freak? |
| 18:20.46 | eppigy | is that what is transpiring here? |
| 18:21.06 | Katty | scowls |
| 18:21.27 | Katty | no, i'm a 45 year old male with no life. |
| 18:21.29 | Katty | now can i rant? |
| 18:21.40 | mountainm2k | hahahah |
| 18:21.42 | eppigy | proceed |
| 18:21.44 | Katty | kthx |
| 18:21.47 | seanbright | that's what i was thinking about in the shower obviously |
| 18:21.53 | eppigy | 4rl |
| 18:21.56 | Katty | oh stuff it sean |
| 18:22.08 | eppigy | BOOYA |
| 18:22.14 | path_ | outbound lines used to allow the system to make calls to the real world eppigy |
| 18:22.15 | Katty | aren't there some other girls you can think about right now? |
| 18:22.18 | seanbright | that's it, you're off my twitter |
| 18:22.23 | seanbright | i hope you're happy |
| 18:22.24 | Katty | i'm trying to bitch right now! |
| 18:22.33 | seanbright | oh |
| 18:22.38 | seanbright | it must be a day ending with y |
| 18:22.42 | seanbright | proceed |
| 18:22.44 | Katty | ty |
| 18:22.49 | Katty | ;P |
| 18:22.55 | Katty | (you totally made me giggle) |
| 18:22.59 | eppigy | path_: please read the book |
| 18:23.04 | drfreeze | Hi |
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| 18:23.32 | Katty | dangit, now i don't even feel like ranting |
| 18:23.34 | seanbright | there are too many doctors in here |
| 18:23.37 | drfreeze | Anyone know if there is a way to disable a polycom phone |
| 18:23.42 | Katty | drfreeze: yes |
| 18:23.43 | koss | my FSX ports stopped working (all i get is noise). how do i fix this without rebooting? |
| 18:23.44 | Katty | drfreeze: unplug it |
| 18:23.48 | drfreeze | :) |
| 18:23.51 | Qwell | drfreeze: Do you have a 4 story window nearby? |
| 18:23.55 | drfreeze | Rather not do that. |
| 18:23.59 | Katty | i like Qwell's idea better. |
| 18:24.02 | Katty | volunteers for job |
| 18:24.18 | seanbright | drfreeze: you can just comment out the registration and sip reload |
| 18:24.21 | seanbright | ? |
| 18:24.30 | drfreeze | We have a strange situtation - the cleaning service (I guess) is either dusting or wiping down the phones in the evening |
| 18:24.50 | drfreeze | On one phone they pressed the redial button and it got stuck |
| 18:25.18 | drfreeze | Called someone about 30 times over 3 days |
| 18:25.42 | seanbright | not a very affective redial |
| 18:25.48 | seanbright | effective |
| 18:25.49 | seanbright | one of those |
| 18:26.00 | eppigy | that is intense |
| 18:26.09 | eppigy | i hope youre not regulated by fdcpa or some shit |
| 18:26.11 | drfreeze | Very mad patient |
| 18:26.14 | eppigy | oh |
| 18:26.19 | drfreeze | It started calling Dec 26 at 5:56. :) |
| 18:26.25 | eppigy | well they will not live long enough to complain |
| 18:26.31 | drfreeze | Just what you want to deal with the day after Chrismtas |
| 18:26.38 | drfreeze | *Christmas |
| 18:27.22 | drfreeze | I can either stop outgoing calls in the evening or try to do a soft lock on the keys on the polycom |
| 18:27.22 | seanbright | drfreeze: well, the real problem to address: the cleaning staff should not 'clean' the phones |
| 18:27.25 | path_ | eppigy, that's what says the gui about trunks ;) |
| 18:27.39 | drfreeze | seanbright: speak spanish? :) |
| 18:27.41 | Katty | send themt o my house |
| 18:27.46 | Katty | i'll give them somethin to clean |
| 18:28.00 | seanbright | drfreeze: yes. 'no telephono. gracias.' |
| 18:28.01 | Katty | but yeah, i'd just comment out the sip.conf registration |
| 18:28.08 | drfreeze | Something seems to happen every year when I take a vacation. :/ |
| 18:28.18 | Katty | drfreeze: you're lucky |
| 18:28.22 | Katty | drfreeze: i've not had a vacation inforever |
| 18:28.36 | Katty | apparently i can't even take a shower without my company sending someone to my house. |
| 18:28.36 | drfreeze | Katty: I get one a yeear |
| 18:28.39 | Katty | seanbright: shuush. |
| 18:28.39 | seanbright | Katty: bad stuff happens when you shower |
| 18:28.44 | Katty | flasnflasdf |
| 18:28.49 | Katty | seanbright: GET OUT |
| 18:28.49 | seanbright | heh |
| 18:28.51 | Katty | <3 |
| 18:28.57 | seanbright | this is my channel |
| 18:29.00 | Katty | k |
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| 18:29.08 | Katty | drfreeze: i can't afford a vacation :< |
| 18:29.12 | seanbright | ChanServ: op me or something |
| 18:29.23 | Katty | <ChanServ> No OP For you! |
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| 18:30.03 | drfreeze | Katty: get a better paying job. :) |
| 18:30.10 | Katty | that'd be nice. |
| 18:30.22 | Katty | too bad this city only has 30k people, half of which are university peoples. |
| 18:30.37 | Katty | yeah i know, move. |
| 18:30.39 | drfreeze | Katty: temporarily moving the sip.conf would prevent the calls, but not the sticky recall button |
| 18:30.42 | drfreeze | this is just crazy |
| 18:30.51 | Katty | hmm |
| 18:30.55 | Katty | change the sip.conf password |
| 18:30.58 | drfreeze | I'm gonna sell that phone |
| 18:31.02 | Katty | or |
| 18:31.06 | Katty | do you know the IP of that phone? |
| 18:31.09 | Katty | change the server ip |
| 18:31.12 | drfreeze | Anyone interested in a Polycom 501 phone? |
| 18:31.14 | drfreeze | ;) |
| 18:31.16 | seanbright | or better yet |
| 18:31.19 | seanbright | iptables |
| 18:31.21 | seanbright | block the phone |
| 18:31.21 | Katty | throw it out a window? |
| 18:31.28 | seanbright | bam |
| 18:31.34 | Katty | bammer. |
| 18:31.45 | Katty | Qwell: we cleared naxx btw. |
| 18:31.56 | Katty | Qwell: i now have over 2k SP and 28% crit. |
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| 18:32.43 | seanbright | WoW? |
| 18:33.14 | seanbright | yes... yes it is |
| 18:33.16 | seanbright | lame. |
| 18:33.20 | Katty | nods. |
| 18:34.11 | Dovid | Qwell: is there any way of setting "a extension" or an include that will work in every context without having an include ? |
| 18:34.17 | seanbright | oh look at me, i'm ozzy osbourne and i play wow... blah blah blah |
| 18:34.44 | seanbright | Dovid: i feel that this exactly question was addressed somewhere recently |
| 18:34.56 | seanbright | either here, in -dev, or on one of the mailing lists |
| 18:35.04 | Katty | Dovid: what on earth? |
| 18:35.09 | Katty | Dovid: are you trying to do ... |
| 18:35.16 | Dovid | seanbright: I asked bere b4. some one responded there was a away. but never explained how |
| 18:35.20 | Dovid | it was one of the dev's |
| 18:35.46 | Qwell | seanbright: shouldn't clean the phones? |
| 18:35.51 | Qwell | Have you never read HHGttG? |
| 18:35.54 | Qwell | You sir are insane. |
| 18:36.11 | seanbright | Dovid: it was Corydon76-dig |
| 18:36.15 | Dovid | Katty: I have a client that is using asterisk-gui. each time he adds something i dont want him to have to add include =>... also when if I add stuff manually to extensions.conf when i hit apply now from the gui it gets removed |
| 18:36.40 | Dovid | Corydon76-dig: Ping |
| 18:36.47 | Corydon76-dig | pong |
| 18:37.14 | Dovid | Corydon76-dig: any way to do what I asked above ? |
| 18:37.31 | Dovid | i dont remember but i was told that I spoke to u about it last |
| 18:37.35 | Corydon76-dig | with a template |
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| 18:37.49 | Dovid | what is a template |
| 18:38.06 | seanbright | 09:10 <@Corydon76-dig> [global] exten => h,1,... [every](global) ... [other](global) ... [context](global) ... |
| 18:38.09 | seanbright | 09:11 <@Corydon76-dig> That syntax works in every Asterisk config file, with the possible exception of asterisk.conf. |
| 18:38.10 | Dovid | it rings a bell now from last time but i was not able to find any info n it |
| 18:38.18 | seanbright | there |
| 18:38.20 | seanbright | told you |
| 18:38.22 | seanbright | heh |
| 18:38.33 | Dovid | dont remember getting a response. and that is for extensions.conf correct ? |
| 18:38.37 | Corydon76-dig | Create your context whereever you like, then in each place that you want it, add [context1](template-name-here) |
| 18:38.39 | ScribbleJ | The free axterisk book calls that a 'macro' I think? Look in there for it, and learn. |
| 18:38.48 | seanbright | ScribbleJ: no, different things |
| 18:38.54 | ScribbleJ | Oh, sorry, looked similar. |
| 18:39.02 | Corydon76-dig | Templates work in EVERY config file |
| 18:39.10 | Dovid | let me test. |
| 18:39.16 | Qwell | not voicemail.conf :D |
| 18:39.33 | Corydon76-dig | Qwell: yes, even there |
| 18:39.43 | Qwell | surely saving won't work though |
| 18:39.53 | Corydon76-dig | Well, okay |
| 18:40.03 | seanbright | i thought codefreeze-lap fixed that |
| 18:40.34 | Corydon76-dig | codefreeze fixed that with includes, not with templates, I don't think |
| 18:40.38 | seanbright | ah |
| 18:40.46 | seanbright | well he needs to get on that :P |
| 18:40.55 | codefreeze-lap | adds it to the list |
| 18:41.02 | Dovid | Corydon76-dig: Under globals I have exten => h,1,Noop(Fooooooo) whichd does not work |
| 18:41.12 | Corydon76-dig | seanbright: you come up with that strategy, and I'll implement it |
| 18:41.13 | Dovid | didn't understand what you meant by: [context1](template-name-here) |
| 18:41.25 | seanbright | oh my... |
| 18:41.34 | Dovid | yes sean I can be dumb at times.... |
| 18:41.37 | Corydon76-dig | Dovid: add that to every context where you want it inherited |
| 18:41.52 | Dovid | isnt that sort of the same as an include ? |
| 18:41.59 | Corydon76-dig | [default](globals) [internal](globals) |
| 18:42.15 | Corydon76-dig | Nope, includes have different priority |
| 18:43.01 | Corydon76-dig | templates provide access as if the extensions were DIRECTLY in the context, which means they override patterns |
| 18:43.11 | codefreeze-lap | Has anybody actually *tried* saving something with templates? |
| 18:43.20 | Dovid | ok so in globals I put Exten => h,1,Noop(fooo) then in for say context [dialout] i change that to [dialout](globals) ? |
| 18:43.30 | Corydon76-dig | Dovid: Correct |
| 18:43.53 | Dovid | yay ;) |
| 18:44.21 | seanbright | codefreeze-lap: not me |
| 18:44.34 | seanbright | codefreeze-lap: and i was completely joking about you needing to get on that :) |
| 18:44.49 | Dovid | damn |
| 18:45.08 | codefreeze-lap | I was just wondering how big a mess got saved... |
| 18:45.12 | Dovid | even though i put it in the asterisk-gui seems to remvoe it so i am starting all over again |
| 18:45.24 | seanbright | the gui will always overwrite it |
| 18:45.49 | Corydon76-dig | The GUI doesn't handle templates, sorry |
| 18:45.56 | codefreeze-lap | ... but on the other hand, it may just work, as all it might have to do is remember the guy/s in the ()'s and reprint it. |
| 18:46.10 | Dovid | seanbright: this is why i aked for that feature. |
| 18:46.30 | codefreeze-lap | aching for it, are ye? |
| 18:46.39 | Corydon76-dig | Dovid: it's an order of magnitude more difficult |
| 18:46.42 | Dovid | Corydon76-dig: If I manually put in include => some-context the gui remove's that too |
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| 18:46.58 | Corydon76-dig | Dovid: then don't use the GUI |
| 18:47.01 | seanbright | ding ding ding |
| 18:47.46 | Dovid | Corydon76-dig: I wish I didn't have to... I hate GUI's. goto work with what the %$^%$&%$#%# client wants |
| 18:47.57 | Corydon76-dig | GUIs are designed to be a simplistic interface, taking a lot of the complexity out. You're asking us to put complexity back in |
| 18:48.18 | Dovid | Corydon76-dig: That is correct. Time to put out a bounty for what I need..... |
| 18:49.20 | seanbright | well that's interesting |
| 18:49.35 | seanbright | because that uses the UpdateConfig AMI mojo |
| 18:49.37 | Dovid | i know its a strange request but its frustrating the hell out of me. |
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| 18:49.51 | seanbright | which may not even support templates |
| 18:50.16 | Corydon76-dig | I'd be surprised if the GUI even supported multi-line comments |
| 18:56.11 | Dovid | brb |
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| 18:56.40 | pfn | ricko73, how's that a known bug? that's because of the t option in the dialplan, no? |
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| 19:10.29 | ricko73 | pfn: if you're using the "park" feature, the parked call could initiate a transfer |
| 19:10.41 | gambler1 | codefreeze-lap: ping |
| 19:10.58 | codefreeze-lap | gambler1: pong |
| 19:11.44 | gambler1 | codefreeze-lap: I just wanted to let you know (if you remember) that problem with cdr has been solved in 1.6.1 trunk I downloaded couple days ago |
| 19:12.00 | codefreeze-lap | gambler1: did you file a bug? |
| 19:13.13 | gambler1 | codefreeze-lap: nope, as I tried 1.6.1 trunk as you suggested ( I didnt understood that I should fle a bug anyway) |
| 19:14.07 | codefreeze-lap | gambler1: good. just checking. Good. means something got fixed... thanks for letting me know. |
| 19:16.30 | gambler1 | codefreeze-lap: thank you for fixing the bug :) |
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| 19:19.12 | voxter | dont suppose any of you guys deploy voip inside a wisp network you have control over? |
| 19:21.45 | koss | my FSX ports stopped working (all i get is noise). how do i fix this without rebooting?? |
| 19:23.04 | voxter | koss: ive fixed stuff like that by stopping asterisk, unloading the tdm card driver, reloading it, and restarting asterisk |
| 19:23.04 | voxter | it usually happens after a power surge comes into the lines. |
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| 19:30.13 | pfn | ricko73, I don't think that's the case in the uscis example I mentioned |
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| 19:41.46 | Jembanin | heya - got a question, see if anyone might know what the problem could be |
| 19:42.50 | Jembanin | new install done today, but for some reason the phones seem to drop off. asterisk doesn't seem to pick up on it |
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| 19:43.32 | Jembanin | they work fine when connected straight to the sipgate trunk, but when going via asterisk thats when it seems to happen |
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| 19:47.10 | koss | voxter: stopping asterisk is same as rebooting to me..can't do it durring "production" hours |
| 19:47.28 | voxter | koss: not sure i can help you then. |
| 19:47.38 | koss | ok no problem ill just reboot at midnight lol |
| 19:47.44 | koss | thanks tho |
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| 19:48.44 | shazaum | there is some bug in sip in realtime? |
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| 19:51.55 | smultron | i'm looking into a hosted asterisk server/service. is there anything i should be aware of? anything significantly different than running an in-house server? |
| 19:53.55 | Talkradio | just be aware it's going SUCK lol |
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| 19:57.49 | smultron | Talkradio: why's that? i'm curious about which is the better option (in-house vs hosted) |
| 19:58.48 | feeds | smultron: I think the main issue is lag and echo ;) |
| 19:59.05 | feeds | and secondly, I doubt you'll have full control over config files... |
| 19:59.57 | smultron | oh, i didn't know lag/echo would be an issue. even if both the server and office have T1 or better? |
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| 20:01.07 | `Sean | Okay, who here has a Cisco 7970G?? |
| 20:03.24 | feeds | smultron: No idea, never tried other than self-hosted asterisk ;) |
| 20:04.39 | smultron | i've never tried any asterisk yet. so i'm open to suggestions. |
| 20:06.11 | Jembanin | Suppose it would depend on how good your connection is, to the hosted asterisk server |
| 20:06.12 | feeds | my * server runs without echo through my local net, and I don't bother trying more ;) |
| 20:07.08 | *** part/#asterisk koss (i=koss@adsl-75-33-82-170.dsl.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net) |
| 20:13.16 | UQlev | Jembanin: I tied to install 2 asterisk in USA and in Cyprus and connected 2 clients to each of it. Quality of communication is not worse than for LAN on 1 server |
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| 20:14.15 | *** join/#asterisk [TK]D-Fender (n=chatzill@64.235.218.194) |
| 20:15.09 | eppigy | hello [TK]D-Fender |
| 20:15.21 | eppigy | it is good to see you again |
| 20:15.22 | [TK]D-Fender | hello |
| 20:15.27 | [TK]D-Fender | You are Dave |
| 20:15.31 | eppigy | yes |
| 20:15.35 | eppigy | that is factual |
| 20:15.43 | justdave | He is Dave |
| 20:16.38 | [TK]D-Fender | "these are the Dave's I know, Iknow, these are teh Dave's I know...." |
| 20:19.15 | [TK]D-Fender | eppigy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmQRmHgExV0 |
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| 20:23.12 | jjshoe | don't shoot me here, but can you do joins in the asterisk db? :P |
| 20:23.21 | seanbright | jjshoe: no |
| 20:23.26 | jjshoe | darn |
| 20:23.31 | seanbright | jjshoe: isn't not an RDBMS |
| 20:23.51 | jjshoe | seanbright yeah I know, I just wasn't sure if someone implemented it for s and giggles |
| 20:24.13 | seanbright | s/isn't/its/ |
| 20:24.20 | seanbright | gotcha |
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| 20:29.34 | [TK]D-Fender | It'd be cool is someone were to invent a motorcycle with 4 wheels, a trunk, and that could seat, I dunno, maybe 5 passengers.... |
| 20:29.58 | [TK]D-Fender | Whats this crazy-talk about cars I'm hearing? |
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| 20:32.53 | feeds | [TK]D-Fender: Boah, I'd buy one of those ! |
| 20:32.54 | feeds | xD |
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| 21:05.42 | DaveCanoe | Is there a way to get the source IP of a SIP conversation into a variable (I need to make dialplan decisions based on source IP and I want to avoid jails). |
| 21:12.22 | _ShrikE | DaveCanoe: the SIPCHANINFO function may do what you are looking for. |
| 21:14.02 | DaveCanoe | hrm... that might do it... thanks. |
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| 21:27.20 | thesandbender | Is anyone available to answer a few questions about setting up asterisk with POTS lines coming in and feeding POTS phones? |
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| 21:28.18 | [TK]D-Fender | thesandbender: How many of each? |
| 21:28.44 | thesandbender | It would be 6-8 lines coming in feeding 8+ phones on the inside. |
| 21:29.05 | madsara | Hey, do I actually need a soundcard for festival, or can I just generate the audio to a file? |
| 21:29.12 | thesandbender | I'm helping my brother setup a new office... eventually the inside will be VoIP but he wants to use existing equipment right now. |
| 21:29.13 | [TK]D-Fender | theAre you looking at using analog phones because of preexisting wiring restrictions ? |
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| 21:29.24 | thesandbender | cost restrictions. |
| 21:29.42 | thesandbender | I told him he should eventually move to VoIP and he agreed but there are a lot of startup costs right now. |
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| 21:30.46 | thesandbender | I was looking at getting rocketport multi-port modems to handle inside and outside right now. I believe that will work with asterisk but wanted to confirm with someone with more experience. |
| 21:31.03 | [TK]D-Fender | thesandbender: http://www.voipsupply.com/linksys-spa8000-g1 |
| 21:31.27 | [TK]D-Fender | thesandbender: Are you expecting to expand on those lines? |
| 21:32.01 | thesandbender | Yes... eventually moving to a T1. |
| 21:32.22 | thesandbender | I know the T1 <--> VoIP side of things... just haven't messed with POTS in a long time. |
| 21:32.26 | jjshoe | heh 8 analog lines are generally more expensive then a pri in any populated area |
| 21:32.29 | thesandbender | (fractional T1) |
| 21:32.36 | thesandbender | That's what I told him. |
| 21:32.55 | jjshoe | and you can get good voip phones for sub $100 a handset these days |
| 21:33.04 | jjshoe | but if he wants his buisness to sound cheap... ;) |
| 21:33.33 | thesandbender | actually, I think he wants it to sound solvent with no debt. |
| 21:33.51 | thesandbender | At least at this point. |
| 21:35.01 | [TK]D-Fender | thesandbender: http://www.telephonydepot.com/Catalog/Sangoma-B600/B600D-Analog-Voice-Card <- x2 |
| 21:36.11 | thesandbender | Thanks fender |
| 21:41.27 | [TK]D-Fender | thesandbender: Well sounding solvent and buying a less functional solution are 2 very different things. Have you investigated PRI(and partil) pricing VS analog lines? |
| 21:41.42 | thesandbender | That's on the list of things to do tomorrow. |
| 21:42.04 | thesandbender | I'm trying to make sure I present him with viable options. |
| 21:42.44 | thesandbender | Unfortunately he's been told by several people that VoIP sucks so he's very reluctant to move to it. |
| 21:43.03 | [TK]D-Fender | thesandbender: who said anything about **VOIP**? |
| 21:43.15 | [TK]D-Fender | thesandbender: I'm talking PRI <---- |
| 21:44.32 | [TK]D-Fender | ~pri |
| 21:44.32 | jbot | rumour has it, pri is [~pri] Primary Rate Interface, often called T1 or E1 (European Standard). E1 offers 30 ISDN B-Channels a 64kBit/s + 1 D-Channel with 64kBit/s. The T1 has 23 B-Channels + 1 D-Channel. Cards to use with *: T100P, E100P, TE410P, R1T1,R2T1,R4T1, etc. |
| 21:44.48 | thesandbender | [15:32] thesandbender: Yes... eventually moving to a T1. |
| 21:45.22 | [TK]D-Fender | thesandbender: Yes, but you just meanted "not VoIP" and your use of "eventually moving to T1" is quite ambiguous |
| 21:45.29 | [TK]D-Fender | meantioned* |
| 21:45.35 | [TK]D-Fender | aklshdkjashdkljfsd |
| 21:46.02 | thesandbender | several different trains of thoughts and coversations going on right now. Sorry. |
| 21:46.20 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender, workin late? |
| 21:46.28 | thesandbender | Right now he's set on POTS <-> POTS b/c he's been told that PRI/T1 is more expensive and VoIP sucks. |
| 21:46.43 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: I left work at 1pm for a haircut actually and went right home.... |
| 21:46.49 | thesandbender | I need to dispell both misconceptions. |
| 21:46.58 | jaytee | lucky you |
| 21:47.11 | [TK]D-Fender | thesandbender: verify the former, and forget the latter |
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| 21:47.31 | [TK]D-Fender | thesandbender: because an equivalent PRI card would cost less than his analog equipment needs |
| 21:48.55 | thesandbender | nods. |
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| 21:54.32 | thesandbender | I appreciate the help and the links. |
| 21:57.49 | jaytee | quittin time, bbiab |
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| 22:01.32 | TrentCreek | hey.... |
| 22:01.40 | TrentCreek | I tried this script out: http://www.voipuser.org/forum_topic_9971.html |
| 22:02.24 | TrentCreek | [error] server reached MaxClients setting, consider raising the MaxClients setting |
| 22:02.25 | TrentCreek | |
| 22:03.30 | [TK]D-Fender | TrentCreek: Go ask in #apache , this isn't it |
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| 22:03.56 | TrentCreek | well it is a script for * :-D |
| 22:04.26 | [TK]D-Fender | TrentCreek: And? Does Harmon Kardon have to fix your transmission just because they supplied your car stereo? |
| 22:04.42 | TrentCreek | they should |
| 22:04.53 | [TK]D-Fender | TrentCreek: unload chan_shcmuck.so |
| 22:05.20 | TrentCreek | hey! It works now! |
| 22:05.26 | TrentCreek | ;-) |
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| 23:02.16 | angryuser | Good day |
| 23:04.59 | eppigy | hello |
| 23:05.02 | eppigy | i am dave |
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| 23:34.34 | Jabess | I have compiled my asterisk, but looks like have compile with LDAP support, but I don't want with LDAP.. how can i remove this feature |
| 23:34.35 | Jabess | ? |
| 23:34.50 | Madkiss | try ./configure --help and watch out for ldap. |
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| 23:35.55 | Jabess | hmmm... I need recompile again? |
| 23:37.51 | fiXXXerMet | We are having an intermittent audio problem. When making outbound calls, we can not hear any audio. Any common things I might have missed / should check? |
| 23:42.26 | Qwell | fiXXXerMet: nat/firewall |
| 23:42.39 | Jabess | [fiXXXerMet] check if you are behind a NAT, yo should configure it.. |
| 23:44.06 | [TK]D-Fender | Jabess: whats the problem with having LDAP support? |
| 23:44.32 | Jabess | [[TK]D-Fender] I don't want that support. |
| 23:44.40 | Jabess | sorry, that feature. |
| 23:44.59 | Jabess | ./configure --help | grep ldap |
| 23:44.59 | Jabess | --with-ldap=PATH use OpenLDAP files in PATH |
| 23:45.05 | [TK]D-Fender | Jabess: again, what is the problem with having it? |
| 23:45.13 | fiXXXerMet | We are behind a NAT, using SIP. I have ports UDP 5060 10000:20000 and 2727 forwarded. Any others that I am missing? |
| 23:45.17 | fiXXXerMet | rules from http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk+firewall+rules |
| 23:45.33 | [TK]D-Fender | fiXXXerMet: lots of sip.conf seting, go read : |
| 23:45.37 | [TK]D-Fender | ~sipnat |
| 23:45.38 | jbot | [~sipnat] Quick guide on configuring * + SIP behind NAT : http://www.aocomputing.net/?p=3 , otherwise check the WIKI at http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+SIP+NAT+solutions |
| 23:45.58 | fiXXXerMet | [TK]D-Fender: WIll read, thanks |
| 23:46.31 | Jabess | well, when I reload everything the Asterisk console said: *CLI> reload |
| 23:46.33 | Jabess | [Dec 30 18:46:10] WARNING[75018]: res_config_ldap.c:1401 parse_config: No directory user found, anonymous binding as default. |
| 23:46.58 | Jabess | I don't that warning in my logs ever time that I reload it. |
| 23:47.11 | [TK]D-Fender | Jabess: useless warning. you can always just disable that module fron loading |
| 23:47.32 | [TK]D-Fender | Jabess: hardly reason to recompile |
| 23:47.43 | Jabess | uff.. great. |
| 23:47.51 | Jabess | I can't believe.. |
| 23:48.11 | [TK]D-Fender | its not butter |
| 23:48.30 | [TK]D-Fender | Jabess: "noload => res_config_ldap.so <- in modules.conf |
| 23:48.40 | [TK]D-Fender | Jabess: Ain't Raw-Cat Science |
| 23:48.47 | Jabess | ohh, rigth right.. |
| 23:49.12 | [TK]D-Fender | Jabess: Any other neurosis' we can help you with while you're here? :p |
| 23:50.01 | Jabess | hehehe |
