| 00:00.11 | glaz | conathan: I did assume les.net was using sip, am I right ? |
| 00:00.36 | Dovid | u dont want to use default if u have outgoing in it as well ;) |
| 00:01.05 | conathan | yep |
| 00:01.07 | glaz | you never want to have incoming and outgoing in the same context! |
| 00:01.36 | conathan | *nods*, but was trying to simplify the config file when I was trying to make it work. [temporary hack] |
| 00:01.54 | glaz | sure |
| 00:02.03 | conathan | sip.conf: http://rafb.net/p/NKznIO80.html |
| 00:02.05 | glaz | we all do unsafe tests :) |
| 00:02.21 | conathan | hmm, forgot secret's on phones. |
| 00:03.05 | glaz | context=lesnet_peer , its not default |
| 00:03.20 | conathan | oh, another hack :) |
| 00:03.36 | conathan | let me fix this up & retest then repaste |
| 00:03.51 | glaz | no need to restart |
| 00:03.57 | glaz | juste sip reload and dialplan reload |
| 00:04.00 | glaz | just* |
| 00:04.14 | conathan | I mean, before I finish posting (I haven't posted extensions yet) |
| 00:04.45 | glaz | ok |
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| 00:05.31 | conathan | well, I got it working :) |
| 00:06.04 | conathan | forgot about that 2nd context, although it did not seem to be going that route before [I did take off default lesnet extension off the register since I've tested that though] |
| 00:06.09 | conathan | thanks |
| 00:06.41 | conathan | now, to see if I can free up enough space on my drive for wpa_supplicant. need 100kb |
| 00:06.57 | glaz | ;) |
| 00:08.20 | conathan | hey, when you have a 4MB drive, it's tough |
| 00:08.56 | glaz | what! |
| 00:09.03 | glaz | oh, running asterisk on WRT ? |
| 00:09.26 | conathan | yep :) 16MB ram, 4MB harddrive. I do miss MOH though... and callerid... |
| 00:09.36 | glaz | heh |
| 00:09.41 | conathan | ran it for a year on a x86 before that |
| 00:10.05 | glaz | yeah, I have CentOS running on a AMD 2600+ that was laying around |
| 00:11.14 | conathan | been wondering what kind of router would have more horsepower for it, perhaps USB ports that could be used for MOH and a few extra hz, but Asus's WL500G is my best bet so far |
| 00:11.39 | glaz | oh, cause you dont have any timing source? |
| 00:12.21 | glaz | anyway, I gotta go! |
| 00:12.24 | glaz | later. |
| 00:12.25 | conathan | well, I dont have a crystal clear conversation, (probably my fault w/ cofniguration) |
| 00:12.38 | conathan | or QOS, who know's |
| 00:12.53 | conathan | but I did want something witha bit more power/storage space :) |
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| 00:23.02 | TrentCreek | conathan: 4MB hard driver? Wow..it must beone of those old giant IBM MFM drives that weigh about 20 pounds |
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| 04:03.16 | [T]ank | getting a codec error... I know I am doing something dumb that is causing it, but I am tired and not finding it... here are the details: http://pastebin.com/d4217d5d |
| 04:03.19 | VoipForces | Hi guys. Anyone has ever written a random ringgroup code? No not a queue. I can not use a queue even with static agents for this. I need a ringgroup but that will ring extensions in a random fashion |
| 04:05.09 | [T]ank | for what reason do you not want to use a queue? |
| 04:06.31 | VoipForces | I'm having a problem. This is a dialer application through SIP trunks (dialing over 300 channels at a time). When using a queue the agents get 70% dead-air transfers. |
| 04:06.56 | VoipForces | Using direct dial to the extensions, all calls are ok. |
| 04:07.14 | VoipForces | I am not sure why yet and do not have time to find a root cause right now. |
| 04:07.22 | [T]ank | lol... been there. |
| 04:07.37 | VoipForces | Thus have to go with a big ringgroup (50 extensions) |
| 04:07.40 | [T]ank | dont know any other way to randomize it without writing an application to use via the asterisk manger |
| 04:07.42 | [T]ank | manager |
| 04:07.53 | VoipForces | But a hunt ringgroup is unfair to the last agents in the group. |
| 04:08.28 | [T]ank | quiet tonight. |
| 04:08.37 | VoipForces | I do have a code to randomize calls on small ringgroups using the RANDOM application, but managment (add/delete extension) is a pain. |
| 04:08.57 | [TK]D-Fender | [T]ank: Dec 20 20:53:11] WARNING[9120]: channel.c:2779 set_format: Unable to find a codec translation path from g723 to ulaw |
| 04:09.16 | [TK]D-Fender | [T]ank: You are allowing everythihg, they pick G.723, you agree and get screwed |
| 04:09.30 | [TK]D-Fender | [T]ank: pick your codec yourself |
| 04:09.34 | VoipForces | [T]ank: so you have experienced this same problem before? |
| 04:10.59 | [TK]D-Fender | VoipForces: "core show function RAND" |
| 04:11.03 | [T]ank | no... but I have done some applications before, and know that you could do it that way. Use a database to randomize, and go from there to the asterisk manager |
| 04:11.25 | [TK]D-Fender | [T]ank: I see no need for manager |
| 04:13.20 | VoipForces | TK: I know that is what I used fr a small ringgroup (4-5) that "almost" never changes. In this case the avalable extensions changes multiple times during the day (kinda dynamic agents) |
| 04:14.03 | [TK]D-Fender | VoipForces: Random is random. Quantity is irrelevent |
| 04:15.10 | VoipForces | TK: It's not the quantity, it's the manageability. I can't ask the customer to play in the dialplan everytimg an agent goes on break or when he adds agents to the poll. |
| 04:16.01 | VoipForces | Just wanted to know if anyone had already done something similar. I guess not so I'll start coding from scratch. |
| 04:16.13 | [TK]D-Fender | VoipForces: Who said thaqt would be an issue? |
| 04:16.24 | [TK]D-Fender | VoipForces: AFAICT you are inventing problems |
| 04:16.39 | VoipForces | A dynamic ringgroup with random ring startegy, not that is a good name for it. |
| 04:16.54 | VoipForces | TK: Not sure what you mean. |
| 04:17.39 | [TK]D-Fender | VoipForces: Pick your people and dial. Whats the issue? |
| 04:19.31 | VoipForces | TK: ??? This is an automated outboung dialer engine. It makes calls and when peoples press on a perticular key they get transfered to an agent. |
| 04:19.54 | eppigy | hello |
| 04:19.57 | eppigy | i am dave |
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| 04:27.38 | [T]ank | [TK]D-Fender: Yeah, Ive never done anything like what he is looking for. That was the only other thing I could think of that would do it. |
| 04:28.55 | [T]ank | thanks on the codec deal... i had it specified, just spelled wrong I think... so i changed it to all to make sure that I was not doing something wrong... thats what got me screwed up. |
| 04:28.56 | [T]ank | thanks . |
| 04:28.58 | [T]ank | good night all |
| 04:29.16 | VoipForces | Good night [T]ank, thanks |
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| 04:36.34 | VoipForces | TK: RAND seems to ack wird... |
| 04:36.50 | VoipForces | Set(MYRAND=${RAND(1,4)} |
| 04:37.11 | VoipForces | And this is what I get: |
| 04:37.13 | VoipForces | Set("SIP/1000-b76150b0", "MYRAND=1722193527") in new stack |
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| 04:39.13 | VoipForces | russellb: Do you know of any issue with the RAND function under 1.4.22 ? |
| 04:41.02 | russellb | nope. |
| 04:41.12 | russellb | let me check the code |
| 04:41.24 | [TK]D-Fender | VoipForces: Dump your dialplan and CLI |
| 04:42.20 | russellb | code looks fine, not sure how that could happen |
| 04:42.24 | seanbright | use a pipe, not a comma |
| 04:42.33 | russellb | both should work |
| 04:42.42 | seanbright | pipes are cooler |
| 04:42.43 | russellb | pipes and commas that is |
| 04:43.13 | russellb | you can turn on debug logging to the console in logger.conf and you should see a message telling you what it thinks it got as arguments |
| 04:43.21 | russellb | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:43.21 | russellb | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:43.55 | VoipForces | http://pastebin.com/m485842a |
| 04:44.28 | russellb | ah, dialplan error |
| 04:44.33 | russellb | you're missing a trailing ')' on that line |
| 04:45.34 | VoipForces | Shit... sorry |
| 04:45.38 | russellb | np |
| 04:45.55 | [TK]D-Fender | russellb: I was hoping that was a paste error earlier.. |
| 04:45.57 | russellb | it's a pain to read all the ({({({({ in dialplans sometime |
| 04:45.58 | russellb | heh |
| 04:46.37 | [TK]D-Fender | russellb: esp. when there is only 3 to worry about here ;) |
| 04:46.46 | russellb | ok, well, it's getting late? |
| 04:46.57 | russellb | I'm trying to cut some slack :) |
| 04:47.02 | VoipForces | Yup. I'm near Montreal, so it is late here |
| 04:47.33 | [TK]D-Fender | VoipForces: Va-t'ens mon ostie :p |
| 04:47.59 | VoipForces | TK: Ben oui... |
| 04:48.09 | VoipForces | TK: En fait sur la rive-sud |
| 04:48.25 | [TK]D-Fender | VoipForces: L'Ile de L'ouest ici |
| 04:49.04 | VoipForces | TK: Cool. Russell mube be wondering what we are saying now LOL |
| 04:49.54 | russellb | i could go translate it if I cared enough, heh |
| 04:50.43 | jaytee | something like, "I'm not really french but I do have a small penis"? |
| 04:50.50 | russellb | jaytee: lol |
| 04:50.53 | eppigy | nice |
| 04:51.08 | jaytee | more like naughty than nice |
| 04:51.23 | jaytee | so the jolly fat man won't be bringing me anything this year |
| 04:51.40 | eppigy | thats why you have to treat yourself year round |
| 04:51.44 | VoipForces | russellb: while you are here. Do you see any reason why calls originated via call files and dropped into a context that does an AMD then go to a queue would end up as dead-air to the agents that pickup the calls ? We are seeing 70% of the calls like that |
| 04:51.47 | russellb | sends jaytee some coffee beans that have passed through the intestines of a cat |
| 04:51.51 | eppigy | for naughty people every day is christmas |
| 04:52.07 | jaytee | russellb, Noooooooo! no Kopi Luwak for this guy!!!! |
| 04:52.12 | VoipForces | russellb: While if we ring extensions directly most all calls are ok. |
| 04:52.13 | russellb | VoipForces: um, no :) |
| 04:53.22 | VoipForces | russellb: Ok, I'll try to document it a bit better and open a bug with it. Right now I just need to get those guys to a production stage so I'm writing a random strategy ring group LOL |
| 04:54.00 | russellb | Just install res_monkeys, that will keep them confused for a while |
| 04:54.09 | russellb | (a module that randomly plays monkey sounds into active calls) |
| 04:54.12 | jaytee | and it's actually a civet not a cat that Kopi Luwak comes from, the Asian Palm Civet |
| 04:54.12 | [TK]D-Fender | russellb: I'm sure his wheel will be MUCH rounder ;) |
| 04:54.46 | russellb | jaytee: ah, I was just going off our previous conversation. I don't actually know what I'm talking about :) |
| 04:55.17 | jaytee | I've got no problem spending 24 bucks a pound on Jamaican Blue Mountain green beans but I draw the line at anything that comes out the ass of a rodent. |
| 04:55.44 | russellb | I totally understand where you're coming from, ha |
| 04:55.48 | jaytee | it's actually closer to a fox than a cat, they just look like cats |
| 04:56.33 | jaytee | I'm so jonesing for some Kona bean from Moki Farms. they have such small crops though so next harvest I'm buying in bulk. |
| 04:56.50 | VoipForces | russellb: Any chance of having the next Astricon in Montreal ? Just asking ;-) |
| 04:57.01 | russellb | VoipForces: I have absolutely no control over that ... |
| 04:57.29 | russellb | Digium Marketing department runs it .. |
| 04:57.40 | VoipForces | russellb: I know. Was not able to convince my boss to attend this year unfortunatly. |
| 04:57.51 | russellb | Next year, then! |
| 04:58.07 | VoipForces | russellb: Is the location chosen? |
| 04:58.13 | russellb | not that I have heard |
| 04:58.24 | russellb | in the US somewhere, I'm sure .. |
| 04:58.53 | VoipForces | russellb: Too bad... Canada is not part of the US... yet ... ;-) |
| 04:58.53 | jaytee | Indianapolis has lots of space for conventions and reasonable rates for hotel space! |
| 04:59.34 | russellb | I just hope it's somewhere I haven't been (and is worth seeing) |
| 04:59.41 | jaytee | I might even be able to wangle a group discount on admission to the zoo |
| 05:00.06 | eppigy | someplace with a good coain- I mean yes reasonable hotel rates |
| 05:00.14 | VoipForces | I liked the location of the 2007. Now that was remote. |
| 05:00.33 | russellb | heh, it was not intentional |
| 05:00.45 | russellb | it was supposed to be where we had it in 2008, but the hotel didn't get finished in time |
| 05:01.06 | russellb | but I had a lot of fun with a golf card for the week, heh |
| 05:01.15 | VoipForces | Had a blast at a local bar. Hitched a ring in the back of a pickup truck to come back to the hotel LOL |
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| 05:03.22 | jaytee | where was 2007? |
| 05:03.46 | coppice | it was everywhere 2 years ago |
| 05:04.02 | VoipForces | jaytee: In the desert, a bit far from Phoenix, AZ |
| 05:04.19 | jaytee | wasn't 2008 in Phoenix also? |
| 05:04.43 | VoipForces | jaytee: Yup, but different location |
| 05:05.01 | coppice | the desert far from phoenix is a beautiful place |
| 05:05.21 | VoipForces | ok, got the basic code working for special ring group, so I'll go sleep now. |
| 05:05.22 | jaytee | I'd love to work for a company that would send me to Astricon but then first I'd have to get my C skills back up to speed. Get out some rust remover. |
| 05:05.52 | jaytee | be nice to have it in Copenhagen before they close all the "coffee" bars down ;-) |
| 05:06.29 | VoipForces | jaytee: why are they closing cars in Copenhagen? |
| 05:06.48 | VoipForces | jaytee: I was there a while back and had a blast. |
| 05:07.14 | jaytee | the coffee houses, some of them, not cars. as far as I know cars in Copenhagen are still permitted :-) |
| 05:08.12 | VoipForces | Strange. Ok, got to sleep now. bye all |
| 05:08.29 | jaytee | it'll backfire on them. it would be like outlawing scuba diving in Belize or gambling in Vegas |
| 05:09.05 | jaytee | I felt like punishing myself earlier tonight so I bought the O'Reilly Perl Cookbook |
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| 05:10.17 | timeshell | Any word on the digium skype channel release date yet? |
| 05:10.44 | orkid | anyone use voip-proxy.com? |
| 05:11.11 | timeshell | Does anyone use chanskype on a 64bit asterisk? |
| 05:11.32 | russellb | digium's skype channel is in beta right now, no official release date |
| 05:11.43 | timeshell | I' |
| 05:11.57 | timeshell | I'm rebuilding my system tomorrow and I'd prefer to rebuild with 64 bit. |
| 05:12.10 | timeshell | However, I don't know if chanskype will work under 64bit |
| 05:12.40 | russellb | the new one? |
| 05:12.59 | timeshell | The new one what? |
| 05:15.00 | [TK]D-Fender | ok, I'm fried. later all |
| 05:36.39 | jaytee | it's vewy, vewy qwiet in heah |
| 05:45.28 | eppigy | yes |
| 05:45.42 | russellb | was coding, sorry |
| 05:45.45 | russellb | jbot: make some noise |
| 05:45.46 | jbot | make: *** No rule to make target `some noise'. Stop. |
| 05:46.00 | russellb | jbot: make love |
| 05:46.01 | jbot | make: *** No rule to make target `love'. Stop. |
| 05:46.10 | eppigy | lol |
| 05:46.16 | eppigy | jbot: make clean |
| 05:46.16 | jbot | make: *** No rule to make target `clean'. Stop. |
| 05:46.20 | russellb | jbot: make |
| 05:46.33 | russellb | ~roulette |
| 05:46.34 | jbot | ACTION watches russellb pull the trigger: Click! |
| 05:47.15 | eppigy | nice |
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| 05:48.00 | jaytee | hehee |
| 05:48.16 | eppigy | ~roulette |
| 05:48.17 | jbot | ACTION watches eppigy pull the trigger: Click! |
| 05:48.21 | eppigy | YES |
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| 06:14.51 | Qwell | :( |
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| 06:45.22 | joat | yang, you awake? |
| 06:49.55 | eppigy | ~roulette |
| 06:49.55 | jbot | ACTION watches eppigy pull the trigger: Click! |
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| 07:15.22 | styelz | ~roulette |
| 07:15.23 | jbot | ACTION watches styelz pull the trigger: Click! |
| 07:15.28 | styelz | gah |
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| 08:17.41 | salmonix | Hi there, I would like to know if Asterisk is the software for my problem. The task is described here: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-719288.html Thanx in advance. |
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| 08:21.49 | salmonix | . |
| 08:22.31 | salmonix | Eeer.. if I was answered, pls., repeat, for I had a short network breakdown. |
| 08:31.12 | ScribbleJ | I can't answer for your hardware, but as far as what you want to do, ASterisk is a great way to do it. |
| 08:32.29 | salmonix | Thanx, ScribbleJ, I keep on reading then. |
| 08:33.13 | ScribbleJ | Is there a reason no one has implemented a ast_speech_engine that connects to a sphinx backend instead of Lumenvox? |
| 08:33.29 | ScribbleJ | I mean, I'm setting out to write one, and I wonder if it's something that's been attempted and declared folly for some reason. |
| 08:33.38 | ScribbleJ | It seems like an obvious thing to do. |
| 08:34.21 | ScribbleJ | I suppose that's an asterisk-dev question. |
| 08:46.08 | SwK | asterisk is probably the wrong thing for him to use for that |
| 08:46.20 | SwK | you need something that does VAD and then only records then |
| 08:46.33 | SwK | else you'll have huge files with nothing in them |
| 08:47.13 | SwK | speaking from experience of working in the Air Traffic Control arena where we recorded everything to tapes w/ no VAD... miles of tapes with no shit on it |
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| 09:41.21 | freddyk | good morning |
| 09:41.48 | Talkradio | good morning |
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| 10:22.58 | salmonix | SwK: Regarding VAD able software could You recommend sg.? The case seems to be simple for me - the talkies to be recorded either have no traffic, or talk. The telephone line to record are the same. I think background noise has little role. |
| 10:30.13 | SwK | not sure what to tell you since you are looking for a volunteer brigade... not use commerically available stuff... drop me an email to krice@suspicious.org and I'll drop an email to one of my friends that is on a volunteer fire brigade to see what they use |
| 10:31.32 | salmonix | SwK: Thanx, its on the way. |
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| 10:55.32 | harm_kabisa | hi all, can i configure asterisk to ask our clients for a pincode, before they can continue in a specific menu? |
| 11:00.15 | tzafrir_laptop | harm_kabisa, DISA or build your own with READ |
| 11:00.39 | harm_kabisa | tzafrir_laptop: any docs on this subject? |
| 11:00.48 | tzafrir_laptop | core show application DISA |
| 11:00.52 | tzafrir_laptop | core show application Read |
| 11:01.03 | tzafrir_laptop | ~docs |
| 11:01.04 | jbot | extra, extra, read all about it, docs is for basic documentation of Asterisk ask see http://voip-info.org/ (~voip-info) and TheBook (~book) |
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| 11:13.46 | Dovid | Is there any way to have mixmonitor to record in wav49 as opposed to "regular wave" ? |
| 11:15.57 | tzafrir_laptop | Dovid, use file type .WAV ? |
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| 11:31.42 | gambler1 | codefreeze-lap: ping |
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| 12:03.47 | Dovid | tzafrrir: I was using wav |
| 12:03.49 | Dovid | .wav |
| 12:08.29 | tzafrir_laptop | WAV is for wav49 |
| 12:09.00 | Dovid | thanks |
| 12:12.39 | Dovid | tzafrir: Do you know the GUI ? |
| 12:12.46 | Dovid | *Asterisk GUi |
| 12:16.47 | Dovid | I am using the asterisk gui and I created a Queue. I try to log in and it asks for a password. Where is that set in the gui ? I do not see a place to put in a password for a user to log in to a queue |
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| 12:41.36 | Dovid[Laptop] | is there any way for me to set that an h extension should be called on ever hangup with out putting it in every context ? |
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| 13:10.08 | SparFux | Dovid: I don't think so. |
| 13:10.26 | SparFux | All in all extenstions.conf is quite complex and uncomfortable. So... this is one aspect of it! |
| 13:12.32 | Dovid[Laptop] | SparFlux: Is there a way to add an agent to a queue through the asteriskdb ? |
| 13:13.05 | Dovid[Laptop] | i am using the GUI and when trying to log in to the queue it asks for a password which is not set any where. i am thinking of manually inserting it |
| 13:13.36 | SparFux | I don't know anything about asteriskdb. |
| 13:19.55 | gambler1 | Dovid[Laptop]: you can add any key/value pair in * db, but in order to be useful you need somehow to read the db. This is normally done in extensions.conf, I am not * expert so I dont know is there any way to access db from some other * "part" |
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| 13:22.11 | Dovid[Laptop] | gambler1: my issue is that I can not log in to a queue and I want to 'fool' asterisk |
| 13:22.47 | Dovid[Laptop] | i added it to the asteriskdb but did not seem to help |
| 13:25.42 | gambler1 | Dovid[Laptop]: hmmm I think there is asterisk-gui support channel. However, what did you put in * db? username/passowd? |
| 13:27.08 | Dovid[Laptop] | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:27.14 | Dovid[Laptop] | asterisk-gui seems to be dead npw |
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| 13:52.05 | tzafrir_laptop | Dovid[Laptop], asterisk-gui has been quite active in the recent weeks |
| 13:52.27 | tzafrir_laptop | Though maybe not so much on Sundays |
| 13:53.29 | Dovid[Laptop] | tzafrir_latop: Have you seen my issue ? |
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| 14:02.03 | tzafrir_laptop | Dovid[Laptop], I guess that you should reduce this to an Asterisk configuration question and ask it here... |
| 14:02.24 | tzafrir_laptop | and hold on line for an answer... |
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| 14:06.00 | Dovid[Laptop] | where are agnet username and passwords stored ? |
| 14:06.32 | Dovid[Laptop] | agents.conf ? |
| 14:13.15 | PanGoat | Dovid[Laptop]: yep, look at the very bottom of the file for examples |
| 14:13.18 | PanGoat | ; agent => agentid,agentpassword,name |
| 14:13.25 | PanGoat | ; agent => agentid,agentpassword,name |
| 14:13.30 | PanGoat | oops |
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| 14:15.24 | tzafrir_laptop | Dovid[Laptop], hmm.... agent.conf? users.conf? (knowing the asterisk-gui, just about anything can be in users.conf) |
| 14:16.28 | Dovid[Laptop] | tzafrir_latop: I have been through users.conf. its not there. seems to be in queues.conf but there is no place where a password is set |
| 14:16.55 | johnakabean | Hey room. Anyone alive? I need help transferring calls on the trunks. I don't want asterisk to do the hosting of the transfer; my providers allow transferring using their systems and I wish to do this. The problem is, I need it to transfer on the specified channel. |
| 14:17.11 | johnakabean | what's up dovid? |
| 14:19.44 | johnakabean | If you're looking for passwords for your extensions: Sip_additional.conf If you're looking for the passwords for the mysql database: amportal.conf |
| 14:19.50 | johnakabean | what are you looking for? |
| 14:20.01 | PanGoat | Dovid[Laptop]: again, agents are defined in agents.conf. If you look at the very bottom of the file, there are examples of defing agents. |
| 14:20.04 | Dovid[Laptop] | johnakabean: Not using amp ;) |
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| 14:20.23 | Dovid[Laptop] | PanGoat: Using asteirsk GUI (2.0). |
| 14:20.28 | PanGoat | ahhhhh |
| 14:20.29 | Dovid[Laptop] | cant seem to figure out how to get a user logged in |
| 14:20.30 | PanGoat | k |
| 14:20.43 | Dovid[Laptop] | i actually added users to agents.conf and that didnt help |
| 14:21.08 | PanGoat | ? shouldn't they be in sync? |
| 14:21.09 | PanGoat | weird |
| 14:22.36 | Dovid[Laptop] | ok. seems to be something to do with the asterisk gui |
| 14:22.54 | Dovid[Laptop] | for instance my extensions here are set up from 1XX-2XX |
| 14:23.08 | Dovid[Laptop] | in agents.conf if I put in agent => 100,100,Test |
| 14:23.15 | Dovid[Laptop] | it wont let me log in as 100 and pass 100 |
| 14:23.41 | Dovid[Laptop] | if I put in say agent => 600,600,Test |
| 14:23.46 | Dovid[Laptop] | then i can log in as 600/600 |
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| 15:38.29 | timeshell | Has anyone successfully used chanskype on a 64bit asterisk? |
| 15:49.14 | riddlebox | timeshell, you have to pay for it? |
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| 15:54.53 | eppigy | hello |
| 15:54.55 | eppigy | i am dave |
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| 16:03.49 | Bananaskin | recalls a line from 2001 A Space Odyssey - I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that. |
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| 16:04.54 | eppigy | i get that all the time |
| 16:05.12 | eppigy | "Consequences David." |
| 16:08.51 | drmessano | I honestly think you ought to sit down calmly, take a stress pill, and think things over. |
| 16:08.57 | Bananaskin | lol |
| 16:09.10 | Bananaskin | who's been visitng IMDB film quotes :) |
| 16:10.15 | drmessano | I memorized the whole movie |
| 16:10.18 | drmessano | :/ |
| 16:10.55 | drmessano | A lot of people think I am weird when I say this, but I think 2001 is one of the best horror movies of all time |
| 16:10.55 | Bananaskin | Dave, although you took thorough precautions in the pod against my hearing you, I could see your lips move, clearly there was a codec mismatch |
| 16:11.06 | drmessano | Watch it with the lights off.. |
| 16:11.11 | drmessano | Surround sound |
| 16:11.22 | drmessano | Kubrick was an absolute genius |
| 16:11.28 | eppigy | There is an idea of a Patrick Bateman |
| 16:11.39 | eppigy | some kind of abstraction |
| 16:11.47 | eppigy | but there is no reaql me |
| 16:11.54 | Bananaskin | wasn't it Arthur C Clarke who wrote it ? |
| 16:11.58 | eppigy | only an entity |
| 16:12.02 | eppigy | something illusory |
| 16:12.07 | drmessano | Hearing the ambient sound, then the silence, as they flip back and forth between the ship and the outside |
| 16:12.09 | drmessano | Yes |
| 16:12.27 | drmessano | Clarke wrote it.. Kubrick made the film |
| 16:12.49 | eppigy | Kubrick synthesized the mescaline |
| 16:13.04 | drmessano | Kubrick is one of the few who could actually take a book and make an equally artful film out of it |
| 16:13.10 | drmessano | Rather than some crap adaptation |
| 16:13.24 | Bananaskin | interesting fact, the Clarke Belt is named after him |
| 16:13.35 | drmessano | Hence the reason 2010 was so ho-hum |
| 16:14.21 | drmessano | I heard somewhere there is a script in the works for 2069 |
| 16:14.27 | drmessano | I sure hope not |
| 16:14.44 | drmessano | Hollywood can't make that movie without it turning into a Tom Cruise gay lovefest |
| 16:15.01 | eppigy | lol |
| 16:15.13 | eppigy | They will cast Christian Bale |
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| 16:16.38 | drmessano | Naw.. They need someone to follow in the footsteps of Roy Scheider |
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| 16:32.14 | Nugget | heh, listening to a commercial on television in the other room and it's allison's voice doing the narration |
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| 16:39.51 | yang | joat: Around ? |
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| 16:42.40 | Dovid[Laptop] | we are akk proud of "our" allison |
| 16:48.52 | tzafrir_laptop | can asterisk authenticate to pgsql (for cdr) using ident (passwordless) authentication? |
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| 17:17.54 | joat | yang? |
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| 18:10.10 | a1fa | wow I am confused with teliax's call log |
| 18:10.48 | a1fa | their call log differs from my asterisk call log |
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| 18:12.11 | a1fa | ah figures |
| 18:12.19 | a1fa | its not logging calls any more |
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| 18:13.11 | a1fa | how can i enable call loging into that .csv? |
| 18:14.15 | a1fa | cdr.conf looks configured |
| 18:18.30 | gambler1 | a1fa: cdr.conf is configured for csv logging and your Master.csv is empty? |
| 18:19.51 | a1fa | Master.csv has not been updated since August 2008 |
| 18:20.23 | a1fa | i still have 11 GB |
| 18:20.26 | a1fa | of free space |
| 18:20.53 | gambler1 | a1fa: do you have any other registered cdr backend? |
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| 18:22.53 | a1fa | no |
| 18:23.12 | a1fa | cdr_manager is set to no |
| 18:23.39 | a1fa | is it supposed to be set to no |
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| 18:25.05 | gambler1 | a1fa: do you have anything in * messages log, when you restart it? |
| 18:26.01 | a1fa | one sec |
| 18:26.05 | a1fa | there is bunch of crap |
| 18:26.35 | a1fa | hehe |
| 18:26.47 | a1fa | i got bunch of people trying to bruteforce my extensions |
| 18:26.47 | a1fa | :P |
| 18:26.49 | a1fa | silly them |
| 18:26.56 | a1fa | the joke is on them |
| 18:27.55 | Nugget | there needs to be a telephony equivalent of goatse.cx |
| 18:28.03 | a1fa | i am seriously thinking of changing my sip port |
| 18:28.07 | Nugget | I suppose you could put rickroll music on all the invalid extensions |
| 18:28.47 | a1fa | nothing regarding CDR |
| 18:28.55 | a1fa | mostly .ael files |
| 18:29.21 | a1fa | i dont use those files |
| 18:29.35 | a1fa | can you cat cdr_manager.conf |
| 18:29.37 | a1fa | and tell me if |
| 18:29.40 | a1fa | enabled = no |
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| 18:30.46 | gambler1 | I do not have cdr_manager.conf (therefore is disabled) |
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| 18:31.39 | gambler1 | take a look at permissions on Master.csv and dirs (do you run asterisk as root or some other user?) |
| 18:32.48 | a1fa | root i guess |
| 18:32.50 | a1fa | thats not good |
| 18:33.00 | ManxPower | No not guess. Know. |
| 18:33.29 | a1fa | i know, its running under root |
| 18:33.32 | a1fa | i dont like that |
| 18:33.50 | ManxPower | a1fa: get it working the way you want, then deal with the userid issues |
| 18:35.20 | gambler1 | it's quite strange that you have problems with logging to csv, are you using * or some * distro na piaf or trixbox? |
| 18:36.01 | a1fa | straight * built from source |
| 18:36.12 | a1fa | Asterisk 1.4.22 |
| 18:37.03 | ManxPower | What specific issue are you having with logging? |
| 18:37.22 | a1fa | its not loggint into Master.cs |
| 18:37.22 | a1fa | its not loggint into Master.csv |
| 18:38.18 | ManxPower | pastebin.ca your /etc/asterisk/logging.conf |
| 18:38.36 | a1fa | logger.conf? |
| 18:38.56 | ManxPower | I'd have to look, but anything that sounds like a logging conf file in /etc/asterisk |
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| 18:39.29 | gambler1 | logger.conf is supposed to deal with * messages not with cdr's |
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| 18:39.46 | a1fa | cdr.conf is the cdr logfile |
| 18:39.51 | gambler1 | yes |
| 18:40.34 | a1fa | gambler1 |
| 18:40.39 | a1fa | it should be stock |
| 18:40.48 | gambler1 | please post cdr.conf using pastebin |
| 18:41.02 | a1fa | posting |
| 18:41.48 | a1fa | pastebin is slow |
| 18:41.51 | a1fa | http://pastebin.ca/1290921 |
| 18:43.00 | ManxPower | I don't even usually have a .conf file for CDR, and Asterisk logs just fine without it, but my customers don't use 1.4, so maybe things have changed since 1.2 |
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| 18:48.41 | gambler1 | your cdr.conf looks ok, can you execute "module show like cdr_csv.so" at * cli ? |
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| 18:51.49 | gambler1 | a1fa: sorry, I run out of my time, have to pickup wife and kid.. |
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| 19:00.05 | jaytee | hi Strom_C |
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| 19:01.44 | SparFux | Hi! |
| 19:02.32 | eppigy | hi SparFux |
| 19:02.43 | SparFux | Hey, eppigy, everything ok? |
| 19:02.48 | eppigy | eveyrthing is great |
| 19:03.04 | jaytee | it's 10F here |
| 19:03.22 | eppigy | oh nice |
| 19:03.27 | eppigy | I am in atlanta |
| 19:03.36 | eppigy | and it is a little chilly |
| 19:03.37 | SparFux | Ah, I see. |
| 19:03.47 | eppigy | we had a heat wave last weak |
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| 19:04.03 | SparFux | My holiday is over. I cannot say I have achieved much. At least I have decided on which telephones to buy and I got them. |
| 19:04.17 | eppigy | nice |
| 19:04.20 | eppigy | what did you get? |
| 19:04.33 | SparFux | For the last 4 weeks here in germany we had cold and wet weather. |
| 19:04.46 | SparFux | The T-com Sinus 700i. It's an ISDN phone. |
| 19:05.15 | SparFux | I was not able to find wireless internet phones, so I bought these ones. |
| 19:05.32 | jaytee | ISDN? instead of SIP? |
| 19:05.48 | SparFux | Yes. |
| 19:06.08 | jaytee | you're going to use those with Asterisk? |
| 19:06.14 | SparFux | Yes, I will. |
| 19:06.22 | jaytee | wow, sounds expensive |
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| 19:06.37 | SparFux | Are there wirelss internet phones? |
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| 19:07.22 | joat | you mean wireless sip phones? yes |
| 19:08.18 | SparFux | Oh my god! |
| 19:08.21 | SparFux | Yes, I see it now! |
| 19:08.23 | SparFux | dammit. |
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| 19:12.19 | edibrac | from a 2005 mailinglist post, one guy claims "anything other than an IDE Drive you cannot use DMA and the Digium cards rely heavily on DMA" -- is this true? |
| 19:12.40 | edibrac | my understanding is that with SATA, this DMA isn't something you need to worry about |
| 19:13.14 | edibrac | and i'm guessing if there were a serious widespread SATA drive to Digium card problem, it would be well documented and google'able. |
| 19:13.35 | edibrac | so maybe in 2005 it was true, but now it's not. Does that sound irght? |
| 19:15.22 | jaytee | edibrac, probably not true as I've used TDM04B cards and TE212P cards with SAS drives and with SATA with no problems. |
| 19:16.35 | jaytee | problems come in when the bus speed is slow and the drive subsystem generates too many interrupts during disk access for reads and writes which affects timing on the cards IF it causes interrupt latency. |
| 19:16.52 | SparFux | ok, what do you think of this phone: http://cgi.ebay.de/Telefon-TOPCOM-Butler-4012-Skype-MSN-Net2Phone-VoIP_W0QQitemZ250344582971QQcategoryZ108269QQcmdZViewItem |
| 19:17.46 | jaytee | I think that phone is obviously for Germans and since I can't read german I have no opinion on the matter :-) |
| 19:18.31 | x86 | since it has Skype, MSN, and Net2Phone in the URL, I would certainly say it sucks |
| 19:18.39 | x86 | as it's likely a USB phone |
| 19:18.41 | x86 | == lame |
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| 19:21.18 | jaytee | SparFux, wouldn't you need a dedicated ISDN channel off your Asterisk server or some ISDN media gateway device for each phone? that sounds very expensive and not an ideal solution. |
| 19:21.43 | SparFux | Yes, you are right. There are actually really cheap voip telephones. |
| 19:21.54 | feeds | x86: http://www.byte-berlin.eu/ebay/images/butler4012.jpg I think it is an USB phone ;) |
| 19:22.00 | mchou | I'm having a hard time figuring out how to do blind transfers betw. 2 sip phones w/asterisk |
| 19:22.28 | jaytee | mchou, what kind of phones? |
| 19:22.30 | mchou | dont you just hit the # key and the exten to transfer to? |
| 19:22.41 | mchou | jaytee: pap2 |
| 19:23.03 | x86 | mchou: first you say "sip phones" and then you say "pap2" |
| 19:23.31 | mchou | x86: umm, pap2 is a sip phone |
| 19:23.38 | x86 | pap2 != SIP phone |
| 19:23.44 | x86 | pap2 == ATA |
| 19:23.47 | mchou | x86: lol |
| 19:23.53 | SparFux | And I don't understand why the butler 4012 is only 15 euro while the Audioline, »EURO 300S« is 35 euro! |
| 19:23.55 | mchou | x86: yeah, whatever |
| 19:24.03 | x86 | mchou: well it's totally different |
| 19:24.19 | jaytee | mchou, you could use the # for transfer from asterisk but you'd have to make sure that the # is in your PAP2 dialplan configuration in order to pass it to Asterisk. PAP2 may have another method of initiating a blind transfer but I've never used one, just the SPA-2102 so I imagine it might be in their manual somewhere. |
| 19:24.26 | x86 | mchou: a real sip phone (hardphone) usually has a blind transfer soft key |
| 19:24.26 | mchou | x86: you want to argue semantics go elsewhere |
| 19:24.52 | x86 | mchou: ok, so you dont want help... cool by me |
| 19:25.19 | jaytee | my Polycoms have a softkey for transfer that then lets you choose blind or attended and a softkey for conference. love em! |
| 19:25.27 | mchou | x86: your seamntic parsing by definition is not "help" |
| 19:25.53 | x86 | mchou: they are completely different! |
| 19:26.01 | edibrac | for my cisco 7940 you do a *70 , i think |
| 19:26.01 | jaytee | mchou, chill dude, there are lots of decaffienated brands that are just as tasty as the real thing. |
| 19:26.02 | joat | in any case... |
| 19:26.06 | mchou | x86: yeah, keep going on about that |
| 19:26.08 | x86 | mchou: methods used by a real sip phone and an ATA differ entirely! |
| 19:26.15 | edibrac | but i guess you can program a button to do the *70 |
| 19:26.24 | SparFux | Guys, what is a wireless sip phone you would recommend? |
| 19:26.33 | x86 | SparFux: Polycom KIRK |
| 19:26.56 | edibrac | iPhone! |
| 19:27.03 | joat | SparFux: actually most of them suck... |
| 19:27.04 | SparFux | Ok, doesn't seem to be available. |
| 19:27.11 | SparFux | joat: what sucks about them? |
| 19:27.13 | x86 | joat: polycom KIRK rocks |
| 19:27.21 | x86 | SparFux: stay away from 802.11 phones |
| 19:27.29 | x86 | SparFux: the KIRK stuff is all DECT |
| 19:27.33 | joat | x86: true, but you usually get what you pay for |
| 19:27.40 | x86 | SparFux: http://www.polycom.com/usa/en/products/voice/wireless_solutions/dect_communications/index.html |
| 19:28.29 | joat | most of the cheaper models are tolerant of less-than-perfect wireless connections |
| 19:28.39 | joat | s/are/aren't/ |
| 19:29.07 | x86 | joat: 802.11 phones suck in general, period |
| 19:29.13 | SparFux | and the connection will fail? that's bad. |
| 19:29.16 | x86 | joat: dect is the way to go |
| 19:29.16 | jaytee | at close to 300 bucks for a KIRK 5020 I'd rather go with a PAP2 or SPA-2102 and a standard DECT cordless off of it. |
| 19:29.26 | joat | not fail, just introduces errors |
| 19:29.39 | joat | cordless is probably better than wireless |
| 19:29.58 | joat | x86: i agree |
| 19:30.18 | joat | went the wireless route at one time... ended up giving them away |
| 19:30.50 | joat | then lost my ATA in a lightning strike |
| 19:31.44 | jaytee | I'd like to have both the time and equipment to test a wifi phone with 802.11n but then I have too many other things to do at them moment |
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| 19:31.57 | x86 | jaytee: regular cordless phone can't get your email, do IM, support presence, have an XML browser (very useful for corporate directories, etc), and other things that the KIRK phones do |
| 19:32.35 | jaytee | x86, true but there are always tradeoffs if you want portability |
| 19:32.45 | joat | or $$ |
| 19:32.48 | jaytee | or you end up having to pay a premium price |
| 19:32.52 | jaytee | exactly! :-) |
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| 19:33.01 | mchou | $99 at walmart |
| 19:33.04 | mchou | :) |
| 19:33.22 | mchou | not a premium price at all for an iPhone :) |
| 19:33.31 | joat | then there's the SAF |
| 19:33.38 | jaytee | because if I tried to sell the 300 dollar solution to my boss I'd get the evangelical christian version of "WTF?" |
| 19:34.19 | x86 | 5020's run ~$199 |
| 19:35.32 | x86 | a decent DECT phone and an ATA would be close to that, minus all the extra features |
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| 19:36.06 | x86 | also standard DECT phones don't support repeaters |
| 19:36.28 | GIRGI1 | hi all,Is there a way to prevent users with extensions to not register on asterisk? |
| 19:36.30 | x86 | KIRK stuff supports repeaters so you can light up your whole campus and do seamless roaming |
| 19:37.13 | x86 | with a regular DECT phone, you go out of range of the single base station and you're screwed |
| 19:37.42 | jaytee | yeah, if you've got the money for it. I'm looking at the pricing from Google search and it's listing the KIRK server 3000 at 6 grand and the the Server 500 at 600 bucks. |
| 19:38.46 | jaytee | technically it would be an ideal solution for our environment at work. Our zookeepers could be anywhere in their biome and have the phone clipped to their belt. |
| 19:39.13 | jaytee | but the price is a killer |
| 19:39.16 | mchou | lol |
| 19:39.32 | SparFux | Does anybody know the TOPCOM Butler 4012 Skype/MSN/Net2Phone VoIP ? |
| 19:39.36 | mchou | and not get mauled by a tiger when the ringer goes off? |
| 19:39.46 | mchou | jaytee: ^^^ |
| 19:39.56 | mchou | jaytee: :) |
| 19:40.19 | _ShrikE | for long range cordless, endenius rules. |
| 19:40.27 | _ShrikE | err engenius |
| 19:40.42 | jaytee | mchou, our keepers are always separated from our Amur tigers by large metal caging. They're never within touching distance unless the tigers are very young cubs and the mother is sequestered or the adult is under sedation. |
| 19:41.32 | joat | in researching the KIRK phones, it looks like DECT is used (proprietary repeaters?) |
| 19:41.47 | joat | http://www.dectweb.com/Products/dect_repeaters.htm |
| 19:42.08 | jaytee | mchou, they're adults now but these were our last two cubs when they were little: http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f273/Jaytee0518/CilaandKisa.jpg |
| 19:42.28 | mchou | jaytee: lol. your zoo dont have tigers that leap out of their confined enviroments like those at the San francisco zoo? :) |
| 19:43.05 | jaytee | mchou, nope, our tiger biome is large but has a metal steel cable net over the entire top of the enclosure. |
| 19:43.52 | jaytee | all of our large cat biomes are constructed in the same manner. |
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| 19:48.54 | fun330 | hey does anyone have a dlink or netgear poe switch that will power polycom 301's? |
| 19:50.54 | jaytee | I don't. I've only got one Polycom that is using PoE. I used a Linksys PoE adapter. I know Cisco gear won't work with the Polycom phones because Cisco shit is not standard. Not sure about Dlink or Netgear |
| 19:51.14 | beek | Afternoon jaytee |
| 19:52.21 | mchou | hah, figured out how to d bling transfer on pap2 |
| 19:52.24 | jaytee | afternoon beek |
| 19:52.34 | jaytee | mchou, how? |
| 19:52.38 | fun330 | the netgear and dlink are standard and they work with my gransdtream and linksys phones |
| 19:52.41 | mchou | dont even have to enter any secret codes |
| 19:53.01 | jaytee | fun330, then I'd think the Polycom would work too |
| 19:53.08 | mchou | jaytee: "flash" would do it |
| 19:53.30 | fun330 | when i plug in the polycoms the power light on the poe cable for the polycom does not light up |
| 19:53.40 | jaytee | so you just hit the flash button on a phone if it's got it or hit the switchhook real fast? |
| 19:53.42 | fun330 | and they don't boot |
| 19:53.46 | fun330 | i don't get it |
| 19:54.12 | mchou | jaytee: call 1 in progress....hit flash, dial other exten... hang up on call 1....call continues on other exten |
| 19:54.24 | edibrac | on this test box i have, when I do zap show channels, it doesn't exist as a command. Do i have to explicitly add chan_zap.so in modules.conf? |
| 19:54.32 | jaytee | mchou, good to know for future reference, thanks. |
| 19:54.51 | SparFux | Ok, do we have a WIRELESS DECT phone for voip with network connector? |
| 19:55.02 | beek | edibrac: Are you running DAHDI or Zaptel? |
| 19:55.16 | edibrac | zaptel |
| 19:55.35 | beek | If chan_zip isn't loaded they you'll definitely be missing the command. |
| 19:55.54 | beek | Or, if it didn't load because you have no channels defined (or a misconfiguration) you'll get the same problem. |
| 19:56.02 | edibrac | actually i don't see it on the system at all - all id id for zaptel was a make/make install |
| 19:56.14 | edibrac | i have a correct zapata.conf from a working setup |
| 19:57.04 | jaytee | edibrac, what distro? CentOS? Debian? |
| 19:57.04 | edibrac | rPath |
| 19:57.04 | jaytee | ugh |
| 19:57.08 | edibrac | :) |
| 19:57.16 | fun330 | is there a polycom channel? |
| 19:57.19 | jaytee | not sure how to start the zaptel service on that |
| 19:57.31 | beek | I'm not even sure WTF it is. |
| 19:57.39 | jaytee | with CentOS you'd do a chkconfig zaptel on and then service zaptel start |
| 19:57.40 | edibrac | it's a redhat derivative |
| 19:58.03 | beek | What jaytee said should work with it then. |
| 19:58.08 | edibrac | yeah i can restart zaptel, and it detects my card (ztcfg and zttool say so too) |
| 19:58.17 | edibrac | maybe I didn't build zaptel correctly by source |
| 19:58.50 | jaytee | rPath is a redhat derivative? that's one apple that feel way far from the tree then. It uses the Conary package manager instead of Yum |
| 19:59.16 | edibrac | ok wrong wording - but the file struture is similar |
| 19:59.26 | mchou | fun330: you might want to find out exactly which PoE spec polycom 301 supports |
| 19:59.30 | jaytee | edibrac, do an lsmod | grep zaptel |
| 19:59.30 | outtolunc | rpath is(at least was) conary |
| 19:59.46 | outtolunc | oops, should have read up |
| 19:59.53 | mchou | fun330: it might be pre-standard |
| 20:00.06 | edibrac | jaytee: yeah, zaptel is loaded |
| 20:00.12 | edibrac | from lsmod |
| 20:00.24 | edibrac | zaptel 189992 60 xpp,wcusb,wctdm,wcfxo,wctdm24xxp,wcte11xp,wct1xxp,wcte12xp,wct4xxp,tor2 |
| 20:00.26 | jaytee | edibrac, did you compile asterisk before or after zaptel? |
| 20:00.35 | edibrac | afterwards |
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| 20:01.19 | jaytee | go back into the asterisk source directory and run make menuselect and look under the channel options to make sure chan_zap is selected. |
| 20:01.45 | edibrac | ah.. i been skipping the menuselect. |
| 20:02.01 | jaytee | edibrac, shame on you!!! bad boy! no dessert! |
| 20:02.07 | edibrac | i bet that's it. |
| 20:03.08 | jaytee | edibrac, I'm not certain but I believe that 1.4.22 (the latest 1.4 version) defaults to DAHDI instead of zaptel and you have to select zaptel in menuselect. I could be wrong though. been a few weeks since I last did it. |
| 20:03.25 | edibrac | yeah you're right - i don't see chan_zap there |
| 20:03.37 | edibrac | ahhh dammit i been banging my head on this for a few days |
| 20:04.01 | edibrac | my previous test box didn't force you to dahdi. I should just start using it |
| 20:04.25 | mchou | anyone ever use pingtel xpressa phone? |
| 20:05.00 | a1fa | hm |
| 20:05.04 | jaytee | dahdi isn't all that hard. most of the configuration is the same. /etc/zaptel.conf is replaced with /etc/dahdi/system.conf and /etc/asterisk/zapata.conf is replaced with /etc/asterisk/chan_dahdi.conf |
| 20:05.15 | jaytee | the tools have been renamed too |
| 20:05.26 | jaytee | dahdi_cfg instead of ztcfg, etc. |
| 20:06.01 | beek | If you're going to build from source you may as well go ahead and migrate to dahdi since you'll hvae no choice once you go to 1.6 |
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| 20:07.40 | a1fa | Where can I buy cheap voice prompts? |
| 20:08.00 | a1fa | since cheap is a relative term, i am thinking no more than $2/word |
| 20:09.07 | beek | alf: why not have Allison do them for you? You can check that out at Digium's site. |
| 20:09.26 | beek | alfa: ^^^^^ |
| 20:10.24 | a1fa | :P |
| 20:10.32 | a1fa | how much does Allison charge? |
| 20:11.03 | beek | alfa: $12 for 1 to 15 words. |
| 20:11.17 | beek | $24 for 16-30 words, etc |
| 20:11.25 | ScribbleJ | Really, that's cheap. |
| 20:11.36 | a1fa | wow |
| 20:11.37 | ScribbleJ | Well |
| 20:11.38 | a1fa | that is cheap |
| 20:11.39 | ScribbleJ | Realtively. |
| 20:12.04 | ScribbleJ | It makes the reading of the "Louie Louie" lyrics a huge waste o f money though. |
| 20:12.04 | ScribbleJ | Heh |
| 20:12.43 | mchou | a1fa: what kind of prompts are you looking for? |
| 20:12.55 | edibrac | i wonder if she makes enough money to do it full time |
| 20:13.18 | jaytee | probably |
| 20:13.18 | a1fa | just a small banner |
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| 20:13.24 | a1fa | for the company |
| 20:13.25 | mchou | a1fa: cause there are some really GOOD TTS stuff now |
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| 20:13.33 | a1fa | mchou: where? |
| 20:13.37 | edibrac | I mean I know she is the Micheal Jordan of phone voices |
| 20:14.02 | mchou | a1fa: gimme a sec, need to find link |
| 20:14.31 | a1fa | cookl |
| 20:16.35 | mchou | a1fa: try this one out in your web browser: http://www.neospeech.com/ |
| 20:16.49 | mchou | a1fa: try "Kate" |
| 20:16.59 | mchou | a1fa: really sexy :) |
| 20:17.55 | mchou | use audacity and you're done :) |
| 20:18.02 | a1fa | let me try |
| 20:18.28 | a1fa | thats good |
| 20:18.36 | mchou | lol |
| 20:18.38 | a1fa | still kind of robotic |
| 20:18.50 | a1fa | but light year away from stephen hawking tts |
| 20:18.58 | mchou | yeah |
| 20:19.48 | a1fa | what do you use audicity for? |
| 20:20.00 | ScribbleJ | Hey... I'm just about to start writing code to integrate Sphinx2 to the Asterisk "Generic Speech API" ... I asked last night while no one was around, but is this a bad or worthless idea? |
| 20:20.06 | mchou | audacity to make it even less robotic |
| 20:20.29 | mchou | a1fa: splicing, mostly |
| 20:20.59 | mchou | a1fa: envelope shaping |
| 20:21.02 | a1fa | aha |
| 20:21.20 | a1fa | heh they add a little advertisement to their output |
| 20:21.49 | mchou | the ad might be "real speech" and not tts |
| 20:22.07 | mchou | kind of cheating |
| 20:23.00 | a1fa | yeah |
| 20:23.12 | a1fa | i need to cut the add out |
| 20:23.14 | jaytee | ScribbleJ, what is Sphinx2? |
| 20:23.49 | mchou | a1fa: that why you use audacity :) |
| 20:23.54 | ScribbleJ | jaytee - CMU's open source speech recognizing software... it's very decent if you configure it properly, and it's Free and Open, unlike LUmenvox. |
| 20:24.05 | ScribbleJ | Not that I'm knocking Lumenvox, we use it at my business and it's killer. |
| 20:24.15 | mchou | ScribbleJ: lol, dont even bring that up |
| 20:24.16 | jaytee | ScribbleJ, ah ok, I'm using Lumenvox too |
| 20:24.32 | ScribbleJ | I've got it working via AGI and it works quite well. |
| 20:24.34 | ScribbleJ | But |
| 20:24.48 | mchou | ScribbleJ: CMU is retarted by comparison |
| 20:24.55 | mchou | retarded* |
| 20:24.58 | jaytee | I finished creating an IVR with Lumenvox that is english only and then my boss changed the requirements again and I've got to recode to add spanish support. |
| 20:25.06 | ScribbleJ | I discovered the "GEneric Speech API" that LUmenvox (presumably) uses, and thought that it would be swell if Sphinx could plug int he same way. |
| 20:26.01 | ScribbleJ | mchou, I will not argue that they do not bear direct compairson, however I will argue that Sphinx works very well for a home system and can be experimented with without even a $50 investment. Plus you can tweak and tune it all yourself, if you are so inclined. I would - and do- use Lumenvox at work, but at home this seems like a nice thing. |
| 20:26.52 | mchou | I wouldnt touch any of that stuff. totally unacceptable |
| 20:27.00 | mchou | ScribbleJ: ^^^ |
| 20:27.20 | a1fa | mchou: how do you download that .asf from the site? |
| 20:27.22 | ScribbleJ | I think it all depends on your purpose. Again, I absolutely wouldn't put it into work at my business. |
| 20:27.37 | mchou | a1fa: mplayer dumpstream |
| 20:27.45 | a1fa | ;) |
| 20:27.48 | a1fa | hahah |
| 20:27.50 | a1fa | good thinking |
| 20:27.51 | a1fa | :P |
| 20:28.03 | ScribbleJ | But I also am absolutely unwilling to shell out even the low price of $50 that LumenVox charges given their limitations attached to that $50 license, when my goal /here/ is to have something I can experiment freely with. |
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| 20:29.23 | ScribbleJ | Last night I took the last 15,000 things I said on IRC and dumped them into Sphnx2, as a single grammar, and tried to get it to just follow anything I might say, randomly. |
| 20:29.34 | mchou | ScribbleJ: you ever try to implement "Dr.'s office appointment reminder" application with TTS? |
| 20:29.52 | ScribbleJ | Haha, no, sounds somewhat painful. |
| 20:30.09 | mchou | ScribbleJ: not painful at all |
| 20:30.11 | jaytee | ScribbleJ, I found the 50 bucks to be the best 50 bucks I've ever invested in software. Even though they claim they don't support it they gave me more than an hour of free support, did follow ups and were always willing to answer questions. |
| 20:30.43 | ScribbleJ | Anyhow, what I was getting at though, is even though the test with 15,000 sentences and a dictionary of 50,000 words went HORRIBLY, it was comical, the differnce between what I said and what it picked up, it was an experiemnt I couldnt' even /attempt/ at home with a $50 Lumenvox license. |
| 20:31.36 | jaytee | I'd like to use Cepstral with my IVR for the spanish language options using DTMF only and text to speech prompts but unfortunately Cepstral doesn't support spanish at the moment. |
| 20:32.07 | ScribbleJ | Jaytee, that's awesome to hear. We have some company building us an asterisk IVR for my business and we bought a ton of lumenvox liceneses for it, but I haven't had any interaction with that project yet. |
| 20:32.17 | ScribbleJ | In fact I /just/ started playng with Asterisk on Thursday. |
| 20:32.41 | ScribbleJ | To have it up and doing so much is awesome, Asterisk has really been the most fun toy I'm likely to get this Christmas season. |
| 20:33.25 | ScribbleJ | See, stuff like Spanish - I bet /no one/ has a Spanish model for SPhinx. |
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| 20:34.47 | jaytee | I kinda have a love/hate thing going with Asterisk. If I wasn't making 49K a year doing all this crap for an idiot boss with unreasonable timelines and constant schedule changes, underfunding necessary components etc, I'd probably feel better about it all but most of the time I end up wishing I'd never heard of Asterisk or VOIP in general. |
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| 20:36.01 | mchou | jaytee: 50K? You're underpaid |
| 20:36.03 | a1fa | hey mchou: what format do i need to dump it into? |
| 20:36.09 | mchou | a1fa: lol |
| 20:36.15 | jaytee | mchou, ah, yeah! |
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| 20:36.31 | a1fa | i think my codec is ulaw |
| 20:36.38 | mchou | a1fa: then ulaw |
| 20:36.56 | a1fa | can mplayer dump it into ulaw or lame? |
| 20:36.56 | iomari | anybody out there using asterisk with openfire? |
| 20:37.01 | mchou | a1fa: why you asking me all this anyways? |
| 20:37.19 | a1fa | i guess you got the experience dumping this crap |
| 20:37.19 | a1fa | :P |
| 20:37.28 | mchou | a1fa: no |
| 20:37.58 | joat | iomari: i was |
| 20:38.16 | joat | not in production environment though |
| 20:38.17 | mchou | a1fa: I just save you beaucoup $$$ |
| 20:38.29 | joat | was just messing with it |
| 20:38.35 | iomari | joat: Can u briefly explain the relationship? |
| 20:38.50 | joat | with asterisk, it mostly provides "presence" |
| 20:39.04 | joat | it'll push "on the phone" to your IM client |
| 20:39.23 | iomari | joat: ? |
| 20:39.24 | joat | i didn't play with it much, other than tat |
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| 20:39.58 | iomari | joat: Is it something that is necessary or just a gimmik? |
| 20:40.10 | CrashHD | anyone ever run asterisk from an nfs share? |
| 20:40.15 | joat | openfire has the ability to aggregate IM interfaces (something like kopete?), along with being able to tell when you're on the phone |
| 20:40.32 | iomari | joat: I c. |
| 20:40.35 | joat | iomari, it's mostly a gimmick unless you need to know when someone is on the phone |
| 20:40.48 | joat | has an irc interface also |
| 20:41.26 | joat | seem to remember something about a directory also |
| 20:41.28 | iomari | joat: I'm about to deply a large organization using penfire for chat and also aterisk for pabx so I was wondering how they intergrate. |
| 20:41.56 | iomari | or rahter if thery should intergrate. |
| 20:42.03 | mchou | lol |
| 20:42.06 | joat | it's okay... it's nice in that you can keep the IM stuff in-house |
| 20:42.36 | joat | give 'em spark and tell 'em to stay off of msn/aol |
| 20:42.42 | mchou | you gonna use a phone for im? what's the input device, the number pad? |
| 20:42.51 | mchou | lol |
| 20:42.52 | iomari | joat: I was looking at sparkweb. |
| 20:42.55 | joat | nah, it's a desktop client |
| 20:43.01 | joat | or that... |
| 20:43.04 | joat | a web client |
| 20:43.04 | mchou | that's "integration" |
| 20:43.17 | iomari | but sparkweb is giving me a little stress. |
| 20:43.27 | joat | yeah, it's an odd duck |
| 20:43.38 | iomari | trying to keep everything browser based. |
| 20:44.15 | iomari | which cards are good for asterisk that handle many ports. |
| 20:48.41 | ScribbleJ | Sorry, got called away, and jaytee, it does sound like you'r eunderpaid. |
| 20:52.22 | jaytee | ScribbleJ, yep and with the present state of the economy searching for a new job at my age is a bit dangerous |
| 20:54.42 | ScribbleJ | YEah, I dunno your age, but I'd be a little worried to ask for a raise or look fora new job right now. |
| 20:55.06 | ScribbleJ | That said, it really doesn't hurt to just sed out some resumes and see wha thappens. You sound like er not happy with your job, price notwithstanding. |
| 20:55.31 | ScribbleJ | PArdon my typos. |
| 20:57.44 | jaytee | ScribbleJ, yeah, not a good time to ask for more money. I don't hate the work itself, I find it enjoyable and challenging, what pisses me off is I have to make sure i get everything in writing or my boss will turn around six months later and try to change scheduling or requirements and then say I never said "X or Y" and I have to dig up an old email to shove in his face. We go round and round like this all the time. |
| 20:59.40 | ScribbleJ | I went through a /lot/ of jobs 'till I found one I was really happy at. They're a lot like girlfriends, you never really knwo what you're going to get 'till you're in, and by that point getting back out is awkward. |
| 20:59.54 | ScribbleJ | Hrm. Yes, I am a master of the analogy. |
| 21:00.42 | jaytee | ScribbleJ, yeah most companies want to know everything there is to know about you, including background checks etc. but it's hard to find out enough truthful information about them when you're interviewing. |
| 21:02.08 | ScribbleJ | Boy, that's no joke. I was employee #4 at my last company, had a nice fat stock option brewing... but turns out the CEO was very careful to fire anyone before the options came due, and at one point he simply closed the company and reincorporated in Nevada where shenanigans are easier I guess... |
| 21:02.20 | ScribbleJ | Anyhow, I got burned a lot of others did too, and it sucks. |
| 21:03.29 | jaytee | I got burned back in 2000 when I took a job like that with a dot com startup. It wasn't sleaze on the part of management, just poor planning and over optimistic attitudes that got them into red ink. |
| 21:04.49 | ScribbleJ | Well, at least they weren't assholes like this crowd. I'm still getting my revenge, though, I got an in at a well funded startup competing in the same field, then I built a new competing product for them from scratch and am working to make the old guys totally obsolete and then some. |
| 21:05.03 | ScribbleJ | I guess revenge does make work fun... |
| 21:05.06 | ScribbleJ | Heh |
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| 21:07.34 | ScribbleJ | Anyhow - I guess my point was supposed to be, yeah, it might be a bad time to look, but it doesn't cost anything to just send out some resumes and see if anyone bites, at least you're employed int he meantime. |
| 21:07.40 | ScribbleJ | Who knows what might happen. |
| 21:08.28 | ScribbleJ | Having a boss that supports you and runs interference for you is great, rather than one that sees you as the opposition. |
| 21:10.06 | ScribbleJ | Gotta run, bbl |
| 21:16.10 | axisys | what is an inexpensive card for home desktop? i use vonage |
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| 21:17.00 | axisys | my goal is to able to call my mom overseas using asterisk protocol IAX, so I will eventually buy a second card |
| 21:17.37 | axisys | i am running ubuntu server on ibm netvista p4 2.6ghz 512mb |
| 21:22.13 | edibrac | what should i troubleshoot, where should i look now? here's my situation: cat /proc/dahdi/1 shows my channels; zttool detects the card; dahdi_cfg was run; dahdi_genconf was run; and in asterisk CLI "dahdi show channels" shows no chanenls |
| 21:23.27 | edibrac | wait i see i don't have a /etc/asterisk/chan_dahdi.conf |
| 21:26.22 | SparFux | Anybody get iaxcomm working? |
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| 21:44.36 | edibrac | what does group=0,11 mean in dadhi-channels? then at the end I see group=63 |
| 21:44.36 | fun330 | how can i config 2 network cards in centos with a gui,i trried system-config-network but it only has 1 network card in there |
| 21:45.14 | [TK]D-Fender | edibrac: Means you should ahve a clue about why challes are grouped as they are... |
| 21:45.25 | [TK]D-Fender | edibrac: What do YOU think they're doing being grouped like that? |
| 21:45.41 | [TK]D-Fender | edibrac: and what does "at the end" tell us? Currently, nothing |
| 21:46.04 | [TK]D-Fender | fun330: /join #centos |
| 21:46.18 | fun330 | yeah they are now help |
| 21:46.33 | fun330 | they are *no* help |
| 21:47.11 | jaytee | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:48.00 | CrashHD | fun330: if the gui doesn't pick up your network card I doubt the module is loaded or working properly |
| 21:48.17 | edibrac | [TK]D-Fender: well, here's my dahdi-channels.conf http://pastebin.com/m704d8e3 does that look right? |
| 21:48.21 | fun330 | okay thanks i guess i just try droping another nic in there |
| 21:48.24 | CrashHD | ps....linux + gui = crap |
| 21:48.59 | edibrac | it's on my test box - i'm testing out dahdi instead of zaptel. I must be misconfiguring it since I can't list out channels ("dahdi show channels" |
| 21:49.08 | [TK]D-Fender | edibrac: group = 63 is ignored. it occurs AFTER your channel declaration line |
| 21:49.25 | [TK]D-Fender | edibrac: As for the FIRST one... I don't know... do those numbers look meaningful to YOU? |
| 21:49.40 | jaytee | they don't look right to me, but then what do I know |
| 21:49.41 | edibrac | well it's from dahdi_genconf so I'm not sure what it's doing |
| 21:50.17 | edibrac | group is... the group of channels no? I'm not sure exactly where to read up on this |
| 21:50.40 | CrashHD | edibrac: google? |
| 21:50.41 | [TK]D-Fender | edibrac: and I can tell you that it doesn't make sense for all of your channels eto belong to t2 groups. |
| 21:50.48 | jaytee | lotta info in the chan_dahdi.conf.sample |
| 21:51.00 | [TK]D-Fender | edibrac: its for pooling your channels when you dial OUT |
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| 21:52.59 | robba | Hey guys |
| 21:53.20 | robba | does anyone know about asterisk addons 1.6.0.1 |
| 21:53.22 | jaytee | I think you also need to put your channel => 1-23 last after the context = and not before it and changing group=0,11 to group=1 |
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| 21:54.05 | *** mode/#asterisk [+o russellb] by ChanServ |
| 21:54.05 | jaytee | personally I prefer vi to dahdi_genconf |
| 21:54.17 | eppigy | oh snap |
| 21:54.17 | jaytee | or even nano for that matter |
| 21:54.24 | [TK]D-Fender | jayGenconf is for schmucks who don't know what they have :) |
| 21:54.48 | [TK]D-Fender | snaps/me grabs his katana and charges eppigy |
| 21:54.51 | edibrac | looks like group 63 is the default from daudi_genconf |
| 21:54.54 | jaytee | we didn't even use dahdi_genconf in class. jared had us use either nano or vi |
| 21:55.01 | SparFux | My iaxcomm does not work at all. It says WatchDogProc: killing hung audio thread! |
| 21:55.06 | [TK]D-Fender | edibrac: Nevewr use that tool again |
| 21:55.25 | [TK]D-Fender | edibrac: and go think for yourself how you want your channels grouped. this is a DIALPLAN consideration. |
| 21:55.28 | edibrac | yeah i guess i should look at is as something to just generate boilerplate stuff, and then do the rest by hand |
| 21:56.05 | jaytee | and that's jared smith, one of the authors of the Asterisk book and a Digium instructor, not to be confused with Jared the Subway guy. |
| 21:56.43 | edibrac | dude, i totally appreciate the help.. and i'm not asking for you to think for me. |
| 21:57.28 | [TK]D-Fender | edibrac: Dial(DAHDI/g11/1234567890) <- Picks the first free channel is group 11 to dial out of |
| 21:57.52 | [TK]D-Fender | edibrac: Suppose you have 12 analog channels and you want to reserve 4 for company A, 4 for B, 4 for C |
| 21:58.17 | [TK]D-Fender | edibrac: You would set each quad of channels to a different group so not to impose on another divisions lines |
| 21:58.22 | eppigy | and youn give company a half of copmpany b's channels |
| 21:58.32 | eppigy | how many channels does company b have? |
| 21:58.51 | jaytee | duh, 4x3=12 |
| 21:58.59 | jaytee | read what he typed, dude |
| 21:59.12 | eppigy | I am mimicking |
| 21:59.18 | eppigy | an SAT question |
| 21:59.22 | eppigy | you son of a bitch |
| 21:59.48 | jaytee | a and b are in a boat, a is me and b is eppigy. eppigy drowns. why? because he was mimicking! |
| 21:59.49 | eppigy | if companie a's channels departed at 35 miles per hour due east... |
| 21:59.55 | [TK]D-Fender | eppigy: OMG... you know his mom?!?! |
| 22:00.04 | eppigy | in the biblical sense |
| 22:00.21 | [TK]D-Fender | eppigy: Oh... so she wishes a plague of lucusts upon you as well? |
| 22:00.31 | eppigy | indeed |
| 22:00.32 | [TK]D-Fender | locusts* |
| 22:00.36 | eppigy | i am dealing with the boils now |
| 22:00.54 | [TK]D-Fender | eppigy: Please ooze in the corner |
| 22:01.49 | jaytee | my mom is 90 years old and a wonderful woman. so much so that I take serious offense at anyone who would cast aspersions on her. Widowed at the age of 44 she worked full time and often a second part time job to raise myself and my two sisters. She sacrifice more than Jesus Fucking Christ ever did so fuck off!!!!!!!!!! |
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| 22:02.13 | eppigy | lol |
| 22:02.17 | eppigy | nice copypasta |
| 22:02.40 | eppigy | i like the use of proper name capitalization the whole way through |
| 22:02.57 | eppigy | Jesus "Fucking" Christ |
| 22:03.40 | *** part/#asterisk axisys (n=axisys@ip68-98-177-71.dc.dc.cox.net) |
| 22:04.51 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: Um... not to take anything awa from here, but Jesus only lived until 33 and literally sacrificed his life :) |
| 22:04.59 | [TK]D-Fender | dang typos.... |
| 22:05.26 | [TK]D-Fender | corrects... in a biblical way |
| 22:05.53 | jaytee | yeah, and hung on a cross for a few day as compared to working his butt off for sleaze bag lawyers for most of her life like my mom did. big deal |
| 22:06.21 | PanGoat | so, how about that asterisk!? lovely software. |
| 22:06.25 | jaytee | I don't care. I'm going to hell anyways because I had shrimp cocktail the other night |
| 22:06.52 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: In addition to the stabbings, spittings, lashings, starvation, etc.... |
| 22:07.12 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: Thats interesting... were they demonic shrimp? |
| 22:07.19 | eppigy | well i mean claiming to be the son of god has to come with some price |
| 22:07.37 | eppigy | jaytee is jewish |
| 22:07.42 | eppigy | shellfish are forbidden |
| 22:07.57 | eppigy | and he will surely burn for it |
| 22:08.00 | PanGoat | Leviticus FTW |
| 22:08.05 | jaytee | yeah, alright so he was a truly stand up guy and I shouldn't have lashed out like that. I apologize. just leave my mom out of it from now on when you all decide to get snarky. I don't insult your parents |
| 22:08.12 | eppigy | actually jews do not believe in hell |
| 22:08.20 | eppigy | and rightfully so |
| 22:08.33 | eppigy | it is not mentioned in the original hebrew bible |
| 22:08.40 | eppigy | nor is the devil |
| 22:08.45 | jaytee | but it says right in Leviticus that eating any kind of crustacean or shellfish is an abomination. |
| 22:09.03 | eppigy | surely |
| 22:09.19 | eppigy | if you have ever seen what comes out of your ass and mouth |
| 22:09.21 | jaytee | and it's ok to sell your daughter into slavery if she offends you as long as you get a good price for her |
| 22:09.25 | eppigy | when you eat bad shelf fish |
| 22:09.26 | edibrac | if in my extensions.conf i see: Dial(Zap/g2/${EXTEN:1}) -- then my group number in /etc/dahdi/dahdi-channels.conf group should be 2? |
| 22:09.29 | eppigy | it is an abominatiokin |
| 22:09.33 | eppigy | abomination |
| 22:09.41 | jaytee | edibrac, yeah |
| 22:09.43 | [TK]D-Fender | eppigy: I never knew... |
| 22:09.58 | eppigy | it is true |
| 22:10.08 | eppigy | the words mistranslated as hell |
| 22:10.14 | eppigy | in the king james version |
| 22:10.14 | [TK]D-Fender | edibrac: Actually if you only have 1 group (like most people do), then it'd make sense to number it "1" |
| 22:10.19 | eppigy | are sheol |
| 22:10.24 | edibrac | it's just that i see a lot of docs that gloss over dahdi_cfg - so I just assume I don't have to deal with it manually |
| 22:10.40 | [TK]D-Fender | eppigy: the Old Testament portion of the King James you mean? |
| 22:10.42 | eppigy | which means the graver |
| 22:10.54 | eppigy | all of it |
| 22:10.54 | jaytee | evangelical christians always use Leviticus as justification to persecute gays with their bigotry but you never see them picketing outside a Red Lobster. Buncha hypocrites. |
| 22:10.59 | eppigy | *grave |
| 22:11.01 | edibrac | anyway, thanks. I'm not here to merely make it work... i have to understand this :) |
| 22:11.04 | PanGoat | jaytee: :) |
| 22:11.07 | eppigy | and the other one is hannah something |
| 22:11.13 | eppigy | which was a big trash dump |
| 22:11.18 | eppigy | that was always burning |
| 22:11.39 | eppigy | which is where the passage "The place where the flame is never quenched, and the worm never dies." |
| 22:11.42 | [TK]D-Fender | edibrac: then again, the King James version is a foundation doc for ANGLICAN CHURCH..... which also made room for all sorts of other "acomodations" |
| 22:11.44 | eppigy | comes from |
| 22:11.52 | eppigy | yes |
| 22:12.12 | [TK]D-Fender | edibrac: I loath self-serving branches... |
| 22:12.18 | eppigy | and the devil came from a mistranlated verse in isiah |
| 22:12.26 | eppigy | isiah |
| 22:12.31 | eppigy | w/e |
| 22:12.42 | eppigy | Oh Lucifer how far thou art fallen |
| 22:12.43 | [TK]D-Fender | edibrac: I loved that Digg article this week about "No more talk about gay marriage until they execute an adulter" |
| 22:12.48 | eppigy | thou widst did weaken nations |
| 22:12.58 | eppigy | they are actually refering to the sun king |
| 22:13.06 | eppigy | a recently fallen babylonian king |
| 22:13.11 | eppigy | which persecuted christians |
| 22:13.30 | eppigy | lucifer literaly mean morning star |
| 22:13.35 | SparFux | Ican't connect to my asterisk with Ekiga. :-( |
| 22:13.44 | eppigy | [TK]D-Fender: lol |
| 22:13.48 | eppigy | that is hilarious |
| 22:13.59 | eppigy | yes lets pick and choose what commandments |
| 22:14.02 | SparFux | It says registration fails. No debug output :-( |
| 22:14.03 | eppigy | we enforce |
| 22:14.28 | [TK]D-Fender | eppigy: Exactly the kinds of assholes I like to see taken down several pegs... |
| 22:14.53 | [TK]D-Fender | SparFux: enable SIP DEBUG at * CLI |
| 22:15.01 | [TK]D-Fender | SparFux: or you WON'T see anything of value |
| 22:15.02 | jaytee | edibrac, here's a sample chan_dahdi.conf file setup for 1 fxo port, 1 fxs port and a single span T1. If I wanted to dial 867-5309 to call Jenny I'd use Dial(DAHDI/g3/8675309) |
| 22:15.07 | jaytee | http://pastebin.ca/1291038 |
| 22:15.10 | SparFux | Fender: I did. |
| 22:15.23 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender, that was an excellent article in Digg :-) |
| 22:15.38 | SparFux | Gives only messages like Scheduling destruction of SIP dialog '33acc361744c91535f8cbb6a309ad64f@192.168.118.8' in 32000 ms (Method: REGISTER) |
| 22:15.41 | [TK]D-Fender | SparFux: If you see nothing thn its a firewall / routing issue |
| 22:16.02 | SparFux | Fender: it's the same computer and there is no firewall blocking at all. :-( |
| 22:16.13 | [TK]D-Fender | jayFor a good time call! |
| 22:16.22 | [TK]D-Fender | SparFux: then you have not enabled SIP DEBUG |
| 22:16.29 | SparFux | And why doesn't iaxcomm work? |
| 22:16.33 | eppigy | HOLLA BACK YOUNGIN |
| 22:16.51 | SparFux | Fender: I did sip set debug |
| 22:16.57 | [TK]D-Fender | SparFux: It works. YOUR setup doesn't An until you start pastebinning a hell of a lot of stuff we're not going to be able to help you |
| 22:17.19 | [TK]D-Fender | SparFux: If * is getting the packets, then no it is not enabled if that is all you have to show |
| 22:17.40 | SparFux | hm... |
| 22:17.48 | SparFux | you mean the iaxcomm works? |
| 22:18.03 | [TK]D-Fender | SparFux: Yes, I'm sure their app works just fine |
| 22:18.32 | SparFux | Well, all I get is IAXCLIENT: failed to start camera, will keep trying WatchDogProc: cannot set watch dog priority! WatchDogProc: killing hung audio thread! |
| 22:19.15 | [TK]D-Fender | SparFux: Please stop looking at your client and look at * SIP DEBUG |
| 22:19.28 | edibrac | i remember reading about a setting with DAHDI where you don't have to update your extensions.conf if you have references to Zap in it ... anyone know about this? |
| 22:19.33 | [TK]D-Fender | SparFux: Actually in this case... looks more like IAx |
| 22:20.01 | SparFux | Will I have to use a different port than 5060 for the sip client? |
| 22:20.13 | [TK]D-Fender | edibrac: There is a compatibility mode flag somewhere IIRC... not sure where, or how long it will be available |
| 22:20.31 | [TK]D-Fender | SparFux: Clearly and specify that in the peer entry |
| 22:20.50 | [TK]D-Fender | SparFux: Things you should know if you're crazy enough to run a lient on your server like that |
| 22:21.38 | SparFux | hm... :-) |
| 22:22.14 | SparFux | Duh! |
| 22:22.23 | SparFux | Ok, same port won't work of course. |
| 22:22.35 | SparFux | It is not the port it will connect to, but the port for the outbound connection. |
| 22:22.57 | [TK]D-Fender | SparFux: One app or the other will freak out taht it can't bind to the port/ |
| 22:23.07 | [TK]D-Fender | SparFux: And if its * then chan_sip will fail as a whole |
| 22:23.15 | [TK]D-Fender | SparFux: And from there you're FUBAR'd |
| 22:23.43 | SparFux | So I will have to use 5060 for asterisk sip and 5061 for the sip client. |
| 22:23.55 | beek | Good evening all |
| 22:24.00 | jaytee | edibrac, if you want to continue using zap channel names add dahdichanname = no in your asterisk.conf file |
| 22:24.54 | jaytee | but you'd be wise to not use that method unless you have a "dialplan from hell" that would take years to rewrite |
| 22:25.02 | jaytee | evening beek |
| 22:25.16 | edibrac | should the context in chan_dahdi.conf be the same as in dahdi-channels.conf? I just have a PRI coming in, all channels for the same company. |
| 22:25.25 | beek | evening jaytee |
| 22:26.06 | jaytee | edibrac, I don't have a dahdi-channels.conf on my system so I'm not sure what your talking about. |
| 22:27.14 | [TK]D-Fender | edibrac: Nor do I |
| 22:27.50 | jaytee | the context in chan_dahdi.conf should match the context in extensions.conf where incoming calls are handled |
| 22:28.01 | [TK]D-Fender | yup |
| 22:28.37 | jaytee | and for outbound calls for you want to make sure you use a lower case g to start at the highest channel number as your telco almost invariably will send incoming calls starting at the lowest channel number. |
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| 22:30.32 | jaytee | edibrac, sorry I had that backwards, use a capital G to start from the highest channel number. |
| 22:31.45 | edibrac | is that something you do by convention or because something breaks if you don't? |
| 22:31.51 | jaytee | I hate having CRS (can't remember shit) but I guess it's better than NNSTBW |
| 22:32.04 | edibrac | won't asterisk just go to the next open channel? |
| 22:32.23 | CrashHD | yes it will |
| 22:32.48 | CrashHD | if it's a pri then your ok |
| 22:32.49 | jaytee | yes, but you want to allocate outbound channels from the opposite direction that your telco is sending calls in |
| 22:32.56 | CrashHD | a t1 I would worry about collisions |
| 22:33.06 | jaytee | PRIs will skip over busy channels and collisions are very rare |
| 22:33.29 | CrashHD | rare as in non-existent by design |
| 22:33.38 | CrashHD | but t1's don't have any digital signalling |
| 22:33.48 | jaytee | I've never experienced glare on a PRI |
| 22:34.01 | CrashHD | it's just not possible on a pri |
| 22:34.06 | jaytee | but I can't say for certain it never happens, I'm not a T1 engineer |
| 22:34.35 | jaytee | analog is a whole nuther story |
| 22:34.46 | CrashHD | yes exactly |
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| 22:39.38 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: Glare happens on PRI as well |
| 22:39.50 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: So this is an important matter as well |
| 22:39.56 | CrashHD | tk explain? |
| 22:40.29 | CrashHD | with digital signalling it should be entirely eliminated |
| 22:40.34 | [TK]D-Fender | crash I've seen numerous people come in here with channel contention issue on PRI for this sort of thing. It is always best to go decending |
| 22:40.47 | CrashHD | very interesting |
| 22:41.20 | [TK]D-Fender | CrashHD: And we're supposed to be a paperless society now. Meanwhile we are building printers that can clear-cut entire forests at an ever increaasing page-rate.... |
| 22:41.21 | CrashHD | does dahdi still support signalling channel offload? |
| 22:41.42 | CrashHD | that's a fair point |
| 22:42.26 | jaytee | I love clear cutting forests, nothing prettier than denuded hills and I love pissing off the druids :-) |
| 22:43.06 | CrashHD | lol |
| 22:43.13 | CrashHD | and I never claimed to be paperless |
| 22:43.16 | CrashHD | I like my files just fine |
| 22:44.26 | CrashHD | tk I still stand by my statement with regard to PRI's |
| 22:44.37 | [TK]D-Fender | I like my FILE > PRINT just fine too ;) |
| 22:45.39 | CrashHD | I would assume though if the signalling was handled by software rather than hardware the additional delay could cause glare type behavior |
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| 22:55.46 | jaytee | damn, it's only 3F outside |
| 22:56.00 | eppigy | it got cold here quick |
| 22:56.07 | eppigy | this morning it was like 68 |
| 22:56.13 | eppigy | now its freakin cold |
| 22:56.25 | jaytee | I had to open my sliding glass door to the balcony to vent my coffee roaster and the apartment cooled down really quick |
| 22:56.43 | eppigy | lol |
| 22:56.48 | eppigy | coffee roaster |
| 22:56.55 | eppigy | you like coffee even more than me |
| 22:57.15 | [TK]D-Fender | and we've got 20cm of snow hitting today |
| 22:57.16 | jaytee | I like coffee almost better than sex |
| 22:57.24 | jaytee | I stress the almost |
| 22:57.28 | [TK]D-Fender | buried in white shit... just in time for Christmas |
| 22:57.29 | eppigy | yes |
| 22:57.38 | eppigy | i like to snort cocaine |
| 22:57.44 | eppigy | befo9re and after sex |
| 22:57.47 | beek | jaytee: I'm intrigued by the coffee roaster. We (the IT gang) at the office use freshly-roasted beans and grind them ourselves each morning. We use a french press for brewing. |
| 22:57.50 | eppigy | and i stress before and after |
| 22:57.55 | jaytee | my buddy lives in central New Hampshire and was without power for 5 days |
| 22:57.56 | beek | It sounds as though you've taken this to the next level. |
| 22:58.16 | eppigy | i love my frensh press |
| 22:58.25 | jaytee | beek, french press is usually the best way to get the full flavor as long as the grind is coarse enough |
| 22:58.59 | beek | We grind it as coarsely as our grinder allows. You roast your own? Hmmm.... perhaps the next thing to try. |
| 22:59.05 | jaytee | I have a Cuisinart grinder and the top barrel has a click/stop rotator for the grind level. I can set it to very fine increments. |
| 22:59.20 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: http://images.google.ca/images?gbv=2&hl=en&q=montreal+1998+ice+storm&btnG=Search+Images |
| 22:59.24 | beek | Ours is a Kitchenaide grinder. |
| 22:59.36 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: a month & a half of chaos |
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| 22:59.45 | jaytee | everything from a fine powder for expresso to a "Holy shit! that's just bean chunks!" |
| 23:00.24 | beek | [TK]D-Fender: I work for a power company. We DO NOT like to see pornographic pictures such as you just posted. |
| 23:00.28 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender, I remember that storm. I was living in Southern Oregon at the time but my old stompin grounds in New Hampshire were paralyzed for weeks. |
| 23:00.31 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: I was dragging a generator on a sled around to the back of my company gettin all our telecom equipement up and running so we could ship under the worst of conditions... Coleman lanterns & the works... |
| 23:01.13 | [TK]D-Fender | beek: that towe is looking kind of limp and ineffective isn't it? ;) |
| 23:01.21 | eppigy | i was in florida livin it up |
| 23:01.49 | jaytee | ok, not to get back on the topic of religion but.... God may well be our "loving father" but Mother Nature is a homicidal bitch, no doubt about it. |
| 23:01.51 | beek | [TK]D-Fender: It sure is. That's the kind of things to give a person nightmares. Particulary transmission line towers. |
| 23:02.17 | [TK]D-Fender | beek: this provice was dum enought to keep so much overland... |
| 23:02.20 | [TK]D-Fender | dumb* |
| 23:02.34 | jaytee | it's not the voltage...it's the amps! :-) |
| 23:03.04 | beek | Our last big storm here was 1992. We had people out of power for three days before everything was restored. |
| 23:03.31 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee : with no voltage, amps isn't as threateneing ;) |
| 23:03.44 | [TK]D-Fender | jayBut together they're AWESOME :D |
| 23:04.09 | jaytee | I came home to New England on leave from playing war games at Ft Drum in upstate New York only to get stuck in my hometown for over a week during the February 78 blizzard that crippled New England. |
| 23:04.29 | eppigy | i was born in 82 |
| 23:04.35 | eppigy | i feel really young |
| 23:04.39 | eppigy | all of a sudden |
| 23:04.39 | beek | We has some idiots steal copper out of one of our substations. They cut the grounds on three of our voltage regulators. They were fine until they removed the last one, at which point there was such an arc that the cement that was holding up the devices was melted. |
| 23:05.16 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender, back in the 'Nam days you could take a 2 wire field telephone with the hand crank for ringing voltage and drop over a 10Kohm resistor and shock the shit out of a VC for days to get him to talk. Now they just use waterboarding. Not as much fun :-) |
| 23:06.29 | eppigy | interesting |
| 23:07.15 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender, do you ever do any perl scripting? |
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| 23:07.50 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: Nope |
| 23:08.08 | [TK]D-Fender | jayBut I'm sure that would be an entirely effective technique as well :) |
| 23:08.17 | jaytee | was just curious |
| 23:08.18 | eppigy | that is the most effective torture |
| 23:09.37 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender, other than Asterisk dialplan coding what else do you program in? |
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| 23:12.12 | [TK]D-Fender | jayBASIC, Pascal, PHP, a little JCL, and probably alittle something or other else. |
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| 23:16.23 | jaytee | wow, PHP without perl? seems like most of what I've seen out there the two are like usually together like "peas and carrots" and "Forrest and Jenny" |
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| 23:18.58 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: PHP was easier to learn as I learned it for web use with the lowest level guides possible. More like learning from a syntax book and tiny samples really. |
| 23:19.16 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: I SHOULD learn Perl & Bash |
| 23:19.25 | [TK]D-Fender | jayI'd be a MUCH better admin |
| 23:19.29 | drmessano | 3904i3fn0493rj09j23jdimfim; <-- valid perl |
| 23:19.49 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: as it is I'm a 2-bit hack who somehow succeeds in spite of himself |
| 23:20.09 | Dovid[Laptop] | TK: You learn what you need to know as you go along ? |
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| 23:20.27 | [TK]D-Fender | Dovid[Laptop]: Yup |
| 23:20.56 | jaytee | I couldn't live without bash and using SED in a bash script for generating polycom config files from templates has saved me tons of time in provisioning although I could probably do a better job designing a web gui "configurator" to write out the XML.....if I knew XML. : D |
| 23:20.59 | [TK]D-Fender | Dovid[Laptop]: I learn all sort of * stuff when people ask "how do I...?" and I JFGI and figure it out in about 2 minutes flat and say ... JFGI!!!! |
| 23:21.01 | Dovid[Laptop] | Same here. just not doing to well on the asterisk side ;) With php I tend to a "hack job" to get it working. I should just take a course in it |
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| 23:21.47 | wwalker | anyone got good experience with headsets for polycom 550s? Bluetooth headset (or other good wireless solution) would be best. |
| 23:21.52 | edibrac | you can learn PHP yourself as with anything |
| 23:22.27 | Dovid[Laptop] | wwalker: Plantronics makes a good one for polycom. it is bluetooth based |
| 23:22.36 | Dovid[Laptop] | when u pick up it lifts the reciever |
| 23:22.38 | edibrac | er then again classes are good if you get the opportunity to bounce questions off someone more experienced |
| 23:22.42 | jaytee | I usually end up learning everything myself from guides, how-tos and online tutorials as both my work and myself are too damn cheap to spend money on classes where the instructors are usually clueless anyways. |
| 23:22.58 | wwalker | edibrac: but you don't learn software architecture or design or maintainability on your own except over extremely long time periods (and certainly not from most of the example PHP code on the net....) |
| 23:23.15 | Dovid[Laptop] | jaytee: The issue I have with learning on the go is u pick up what u see and not everything |
| 23:23.31 | Dovid[Laptop] | like I once did 10 lines when all I needed was a 3 line loop |
| 23:23.36 | jaytee | Dovid[Laptop], that's the downside |
| 23:23.38 | edibrac | wwalker: i can't say by experience, but maybe there are open source projects out there you can look over |
| 23:24.03 | edibrac | and then sort of look over that while you compare with whatever software architecture textbook you have |
| 23:24.09 | Dovid[Laptop] | jaytee: In my spare time (If I ever get any) i find vids on line |
| 23:24.12 | Dovid[Laptop] | its how i did linux |
| 23:24.48 | jaytee | while I'd dismiss many Microsoft Press books, for architectural considerations I'd recommend Code Complete. |
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| 23:27.06 | wwalker | edibrac: there is some good and even Excellent code out there in PHP but most of the exapmles and code that people will build off of teaches horrible habits and is usually horribly unsecure (not due to PHP, but due to self-taught PHP programmers with no other software dev experience) |
| 23:27.58 | jaytee | then use the Microsoft approach, buy more RAM and get a better firewall :-) |
| 23:28.21 | wwalker | jaytee: I would find a language to program in where the community is friendly and more experienced and willing to peer review your code for you. I've found the #ruby-lang community meets those criteria, but others do too I'm sure. |
| 23:28.43 | Dovid[Laptop] | wwalker: What is exactly ruby ? |
| 23:29.08 | Dovid[Laptop] | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:29.19 | jaytee | wwalker, my main interest in learning perl is that it ties in with both web CGI stuff and as a system level scripting language that has more power than basic bash scripting. |
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| 23:30.20 | wwalker | Dovid[Laptop]: Ruby is a very clean OO language that is strongly typed, dynamically typed, and terse and powerful like perl and python, but much cleaner and better OOP (IMO). I programmed perl for 14 years, and after 1 (18 hour) day of using Ruby switched languages. |
| 23:31.04 | Dovid[Laptop] | damn |
| 23:31.09 | Dovid[Laptop] | another one to look in to |
| 23:31.37 | edibrac | for PHP i used to read the forum at sitepoint about "correct" code design/architecture and OOP stuff. But I never got into it because it seemed like too much to consider |
| 23:32.09 | jaytee | yeah, exactly. I just spent 50 bucks on O'Reilly's Perl Cookbook and now he tells me Ruby is better. Ah, crap! I'm gonna go look for a job working the drive through at Mickey D's and screw all this crap. :-) |
| 23:32.52 | [TK]D-Fender | [18:22]<Dovid[Laptop]>when u pick up it lifts the reciever <- headset lifter are GARBAGE |
| 23:33.07 | [TK]D-Fender | Dovid[Laptop]: Ben there done that. |
| 23:33.28 | wwalker | jaytee: for system scripting perl is a winner (ruby comes in a close second, very close). For dead simple web apps, perl is probably the way to go (HTML::Template or Template-Toolkit and CGI::Application), for any complex web dev, I'd definitely say RubyOnRails with Django (Python) a close second. |
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| 23:33.44 | wwalker | Dovid[Laptop]: thx for the info on headsets. |
| 23:33.53 | jaytee | well that's a relief |
| 23:34.17 | [TK]D-Fender | wwalker: Avoid lifters with extreme prejudice |
| 23:34.27 | jaytee | yeah, the cradle lifters suck ass |
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| 23:34.46 | wwalker | You can't go wrong with perl if you shut your ears when people talk about perl 6. Other tools are better, but perl 5 still rocks |
| 23:35.27 | jaytee | here we go again! this fakhir guy either has the worlds worst internet connection, the worlds worst IRC chat client or he's got major OCD. |
| 23:36.01 | wwalker | [TK]D-Fender: is lifters a web framework? it matches too many other things to find it via google |
| 23:36.20 | [TK]D-Fender | wwalker: HEADSET <- |
| 23:36.21 | Dovid[Laptop] | TK: just used one. didn't use many. I defer to your opinion |
| 23:36.41 | fakhir | hehe sorry |
| 23:37.23 | Epicanis | Would it be impolite to suddenly pop up with a stupid question about AGI (namely, whether "SAY NUMBER" can handle signed decimal numbers like "-110.3" okay)? |
| 23:37.30 | [TK]D-Fender | Dovid[Laptop]: I'd used Plantronic lifers with Polycoms. The PC handset does not balance well because of the rounded underside of the handset and is awkewark. Had to strap it onto the damn think or it'd fall off. Plus you can't transfer,etc... |
| 23:37.39 | wwalker | [TK]D-Fender: doh. Thank you. |
| 23:37.53 | [TK]D-Fender | Dovid[Laptop]: no CID... you're crippled, and dependindat on a ANDIO ring to do anything. |
| 23:37.59 | wwalker | Epicanis: this is #hardwaree-and-dynamic-languages try over on #asterisk |
| 23:38.10 | [TK]D-Fender | Epicanis: No, not a bad question at all... |
| 23:38.20 | Epicanis | Oops, case sensitivity - sorry. DIdn't realize they were separate channels. |
| 23:38.26 | [TK]D-Fender | Epicanis: I stronglys suspect it does work as you would expect |
| 23:38.34 | wwalker | lol |
| 23:39.01 | Dovid[Laptop] | TK: I remember we had such a problem. forgot what we used to fix it. |
| 23:39.03 | [TK]D-Fender | Epicanis: You know this IS about 10 seconds to test... go for it and you tell us |
| 23:39.07 | Dovid[Laptop] | i personally didnt use it. was a client. |
| 23:39.11 | [TK]D-Fender | Dovid[Laptop]: DUCT TAPE :p |
| 23:39.23 | Dovid[Laptop] | haha |
| 23:39.55 | [TK]D-Fender | Dovid[Laptop]: I then learned to use a short screw into the unterside of the hook-bar to directly depress the hook-switch and leave the handset off entirely. |
| 23:40.09 | [TK]D-Fender | Dovid[Laptop]: But seriously... this whole ides is CRACP |
| 23:40.14 | [TK]D-Fender | CRAP* |
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| 23:40.46 | wwalker | [TK]D-Fender: so what do you recoomend for wireless headsets and desk phones? |
| 23:40.51 | Dovid[Laptop] | I get the idea ;) |
| 23:41.05 | wwalker | I'm kinda partial to the polycom 550 but could still be convinced differently. |
| 23:41.18 | Dovid[Laptop] | wwalker: For mobile maybe get a soft client on a pp device with bluetooth |
| 23:41.31 | Epicanis | feels stupid... "Thanks. I just remembered I have to go pick up a left-handed screwdriver and some muffler bearings, though." |
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| 23:42.12 | [TK]D-Fender | wwalker: SIP-DECT setup w/ BT |
| 23:44.07 | [TK]D-Fender | wwalker: IP550 directly supports BT doesn't it? |
| 23:44.12 | jaytee | heheehe, left handed screwdriver and muffler bearings....rofl |
| 23:47.19 | wwalker | my RX-7 isn't fast enough. should I add a BIG whale tail, blue lights and muffler bearings? |
| 23:47.56 | Dovid[Laptop] | I am off to bed |
| 23:47.57 | jaytee | oooh, wankel rotary engines rock |
| 23:47.59 | [TK]D-Fender | wwalker: No, you need to upgrade to the trapezoidal engine.... |
| 23:47.59 | Dovid[Laptop] | night Y'all |
| 23:48.11 | Dovid[Laptop] | TK: Enjoy the snow. |
| 23:48.21 | jaytee | night Dovid[Laptop] |
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| 23:49.01 | wwalker | actually I can just unbolt the engine and ad 2 more chambers in the middle :-) |
| 23:50.06 | wwalker | [TK]D-Fender: I'm not finding bt support in the 550 |
| 23:50.57 | [TK]D-Fender | wwalker: I'm not certain it has it... I know it supportes the Jabra BT "lifet" protocol (close enough), but thats a big added cost |
| 23:51.10 | [TK]D-Fender | "lifter"* |
| 23:51.18 | [TK]D-Fender | wwalker: Fo non-mechanical signalling. |
| 23:51.31 | wwalker | interesting |
| 23:51.53 | [TK]D-Fender | wwalker: But I still recommend the other route |
| 23:52.22 | wwalker | I'll have the client clarify whether or not the headset needs to handle the phone and whether or nto a BT to a soft phone would work. |
| 23:52.23 | jaytee | 550 doesn't support BT directly. it just has the standard headset jack |
| 23:53.10 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: I suspected that... |
| 23:53.21 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: Beena while since I read up on the newer models. |
| 23:53.34 | jaytee | 650 has the USB port for "future applications" but it doesn't specify BT |
| 23:53.37 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: Several things I need to brush up on to stay current |
| 23:54.13 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender, I don't see why you can't stay current. It's not like you have too much to do :-) .....ducks and runs |
| 23:54.24 | *** join/#asterisk LeddyHM (i=leddy@da-club.with.my.beerandcondoms.com) |
| 23:54.45 | jaytee | if I was a betting man I'd bet you could use a BT usb dongle with the 650 |
| 23:55.14 | jaytee | I should give this guy that was in my class and works for Polycom a call, he'd know if anyone would |
| 23:55.30 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: Lest see... a 60+ hour work week, which is going to be shit tomorrow because my fuck-off logistics guy can't floor-plan a move his way out of a paper bag.... |
| 23:55.44 | eppigy | oh boy |
| 23:55.57 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: Makes me want to implement all of that training of mine... |
| 23:56.31 | eppigy | implement final solution |
| 23:57.42 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: 3 VIP's won't have computers or phones tomorrow because this idiot has him movers drop furniture right up into the power & network jacks and piled up boxes so much I swaer our admin assistant is going to cry for being crammed in a corner again by him |
| 23:57.43 | [TK]D-Fender | eppigy: whats what I'm trained for. |
| 23:57.43 | [TK]D-Fender | eppigy: Mr. Pointy is hungry... it hasn't tasted blood in a few months now... |
| 23:57.46 | eppigy | KILL EVERYTHING |
| 23:57.53 | [TK]D-Fender | LET GOD SORT 'EM OUT |
| 23:58.03 | eppigy | if that's how you get down |
| 23:58.42 | [TK]D-Fender | eppigy: No... but this is a G-rated channel ;) |
| 23:58.50 | eppigy | 8[] |
| 23:58.56 | [TK]D-Fender | eppigy: Actually... more like R for swearing :) |
| 23:59.06 | eppigy | MOLEST THEIR CORPSES |
| 23:59.17 | [TK]D-Fender | eppigy: Either way, a significant % of the alphabet away |
| 23:59.36 | [TK]D-Fender | eppigy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w056fHqGh0Y |
