IRC log for #asterisk on 20081220

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00:02.08luke-jrAny way to disable native bridging on Zap?
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00:04.52KOCATEPEhi all
00:05.21KOCATEPEis from Turkey , m 40
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00:09.30C4coloQwell: I can't even get the "free" phone for less that $150 now
00:09.42C4cologotta wait 18 more months or something
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00:13.08KOCATEPEback again
00:13.12KOCATEPEconnection problem
00:13.23justdaveis there a way in Meetme for an admin to mute a user and allow that user to still unmute themselves?
00:13.42justdaveif you use the normal meetme admin commands to mute a person, only the admin can unmute them, they can't unmute themselves
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00:17.39jayyersjus installed asteriskNow 1.5 and was wanting some help setting up my sip trunk with nexvortex can anyone point me in the right direction?
00:17.44KOCATEPEi m using debian php5 combination
00:18.29edibracare there any known problems with linux software raid? AFAIK what I read on the mailinglist are old postings ...that with current hardware, the fears over  software raid in general are more about perception than reality
00:18.33KOCATEPEis there any php admin panel for settings
00:19.04beek<PROTECTED>
00:19.44edibracyeah what I mean is linux software raid with asterisk
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00:20.06drmessano^How would Asterisk know it's on a RAID?
00:20.09edibraclinux software raid itself is fine as fa rask I know
00:20.26drmessano^How would it behave differently or have problems?
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00:20.38drmessano^O.o
00:20.55C4colothroughput
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00:20.58edibracI'm just going off past mailing list entries where people seem to point the finger at RAID
00:21.00MiccI need to find local termination in seattle asap. Anyone know of anyone that has local termination in seattle area?
00:21.22C4coloif you are trying to utilize software raid on a system with less than 1ghz processor then you probably shouldn't be running an application as needy as asterisk
00:21.36C4colohowever, on modern hardware software raid is negligable
00:22.00C4colomake sure you are running it on a descent hard drive controller
00:22.28C4colomake sure you get at least 50MB/s on the drives before implementing software raid
00:23.03C4coloand, if you have a good harddrive controler you should see that go up to 75-100MB/s after raid has been implemented
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00:23.26C4coloman hdparam
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00:23.50C4colothere are lots of tests there to verify the configuration of your hard drives
00:24.02huisnahdrmessano^, you around?
00:24.14drmessano^yeah
00:24.38C4coloMicc: vitelity.net should have DIDs there
00:25.10jayyersjus installed asterisk 1.5 and was wanting some help setting up my sip trunk with nexvortex can anyone point me in the right direction?
00:25.16jayyers<PROTECTED>
00:25.22C4colowhat is asterisk 1.5?
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00:25.54[TK]D-FenderC4colo: Comes bundled with res_fluxcapacitor.so
00:25.55jayyers*asteriskNow 1.5b
00:26.49C4coloah that one
00:26.52jayyersi was using switchvox and with no problems getting everything working but wanted to switch to a more customizable system (asteriskNow 1.5b)  but am having trouble can anyone help?
00:26.57C4coloI've never touched asterisknow
00:27.23edibracI'm getting dropped calls and HDLC abort errors, so that's why I'm looking into lower level,. physical or kernel layer stuff that might cause it. No asterisk doesn't  "Know" it's no raid, but it makes sense to question it when I'm troubleshooting
00:27.25[TK]D-Fenderhas... and felt... dirty afterwards
00:27.51jayyersi used it cause it was easy to get asterisk installed and the gui all at once without having to mess with compiling/dependancy issues
00:28.30C4colothere are those of us that depend on the compilation/dependancies for our livelyhood
00:28.46C4coloand those GUIs are messing it up for us
00:29.14C4coloif this stuff becomes easy enough for anyone to set up then where are we?
00:29.39C4coloactually, setting it up shouldn't be too hard
00:29.39jayyersC4colo: lol, well if you want i can stick a distro of your choise in the computer and install it and enable ssh and give u the credentials and let you take the rest but i doubt u want to do that lol
00:30.13yardBwhen i sip provider give 3 trucks [name-trunk1] [name-trunk2] [name-trunk3] ..what is the significance .. how is applied .. i am only accustum to a single trunk
00:30.17C4colois this the asterisknow with freepbx or the asterisk gui?
00:30.35jayyersfreepbx
00:30.35C4coloyardB: do you have three DIDs with them?
00:31.17C4colojayyers: did your provider give you a freepbx example?
00:31.21yardByes
00:31.21C4coloor an asterisk example?
00:31.27C4colotry using the freepbx example
00:31.37yardBC$ yes
00:31.41jayyersthey gave me an asterisk example
00:32.10C4coloI have set up freepbx trunks before but the guys in #freepbx would probably be more help
00:32.22MiccC4colo, I already have vitelity and DID's there. I need someone to provide local unimited pri dial out to that area.
00:32.34jayyershttps://www.nexvortex.com/tempdocs/Setup%20Guide%20Asterisk.pdf
00:32.35yardBC4colo: yes, i am setting up the config
00:32.37MiccI suppose I'll have to get my own PRI there.
00:32.37C4coloah, you need local termination
00:33.01C4colobandwidth.com I think does PRIs in many major cities
00:33.13C4coloalso look at the Public Utilities Commission for the area
00:33.20C4colothey should have a list of LECs and CLECS for the area
00:33.32C4colocall them all up
00:33.43jayyersi tried to put all info as specified by the doc into the gui but i dont realy know what goes into the peer part and what goes into the User/context part of the freepbx gui, i tried the best i could but it doesnt register the trunk
00:33.51C4colobandwidth.com might even be able to provide you with a SIP trunk for local termination
00:33.53edibrachave you guys seen a particular card cause dropped calls, yet after swapping it with another one of the same model, it's fine?
00:34.11C4coloedibrac: what manufacturer?
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00:34.19edibracC4colo: Digium TE121
00:34.30edibracPCI-E card
00:34.32C4coloyea, probably hardware issue, is it under warranty?
00:34.44yardBC4: do i need DID if i only want them to terminate my calls?
00:35.09edibracC4colo: well I ordered a 2nd one, in hopes it is that particular card .. I'm going to try it out tonight to see how it oges
00:35.11C4coloyardB, they probably have outbound only, I'm not sure of their offerings
00:35.41C4colooh, you haven't tested the new card yet?
00:36.10C4coloit is possible that it is hardware, but it is more likely the configuration, unfortunatly I'm not too good with PRIs at this point
00:36.11edibracC4colo: the odd part is that I've had the same dropped calls and HDLC errors on a known working asterisk server
00:36.43yardBC$ you are in great mand ;)
00:36.50yardBdemand
00:36.51edibracC4colo: the confusing part is that the PRI monitoring unit our telco droped off, says it's our box that is having problems.
00:37.13C4colodoes this "pri monitoring unit" have the name Adtran on it?
00:37.53beekedibrac: Good luck with that.   It took me over three weeks to get the telco to admit that they were having problems.
00:38.10edibracC4colo: it is Westell-specific .. so actually "pri monitoring unit" is a term I made up. They say it "monitors the NIU", a westtell.
00:38.17beekedibrac: I'm assuming that what they gave you was a CSU
00:38.42C4colomonitors the NIU?
00:38.48C4colowhat kind of crap is that?
00:38.58beekC4colo: I'd say NI
00:39.07edibracwell it sits between the NIU and CPE ..then logs problems to determine which side is broken
00:39.21C4colothe NIU should have internal monitoring, called RED/BLUE/YELLOW alarm, and some LEDs on it
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00:39.43C4colointeresting
00:39.49C4coloand what has this monitoring unit said?
00:39.56C4colothat the call is being dropped by your pbx?
00:40.20edibracC4colo: the logs correspond to our HDLC asterisk log errors
00:40.52edibracwhich correspond to dropped calls ..but we have had dropped calls when there isn't a HDLC log entry.
00:41.02edibracand all that is intermittent
00:41.25C4colook, it is possible they are not providing you with an actual PRI
00:41.34C4colothe device that "monitors the NIU" could be an IAD
00:41.56C4colousing the bandwidth of the T1 for SIP termination and generates a PRI signalled line locally
00:42.42C4colowe had a similar problem with an ADTRAN IAD (since that's actually how we provide PRIs on our network) ... we fixed it by changing the SIP server address to it's actual IP address instead of the FQDN of the server
00:42.58edibracif what you say is true, could it be that some/most calls work most of the time?  Our situation is that -- that dropped calls happen with no pattern.
00:43.05C4coloit was a DNS lookup timeout, the call would take too long to set up so it would drop
00:43.17C4colothat's why it took us so long to figure it out
00:43.39C4colowhen the DNS server was overloaded and took more than so many milliseconds to respond, and when the DNS cache had expired, it would drop the call
00:43.46C4colobut those two things only lined up every once in a while
00:44.10C4coloso it would be fine for hours then it would drop a call, then it would take another hour or two and drop two at the same time
00:44.22edibracwell I have my asterisk configs to match up with the signalling of a PRI -- if they weren't providing a PRI, nothing would work, right? Or..are you saying there's a way they can "simulate" a PRI?
00:45.11C4colothe way we do it is that we send an IP T1 to the customer premise and then use an Adtran IAD to generate a PRI locally
00:45.38C4colothen the IAD connects back to our network via a SIP trunk
00:46.05C4colothat allows us to bond two or three T1s and they get the full bandwidth minus whatever phone calls are going on
00:46.18C4coloor we can set up a partial PRI and give them the rest of the bandwidth
00:46.28C4colothis may not be the issue on your particular setup
00:46.56C4colowhile most companies are going this route for PRIs because it is cheaper, the company you are using may still be providing true PRI signalled lines
00:46.58edibracin your setup, would I setup my box the same way as if it were a PRI?
00:47.05C4coloyea
00:47.08C4coloit's a real PRI
00:47.19C4colojust that it's 3 feet long instead of thousands of feet long
00:47.47C4coloand it's using TCP/IP for the backhaul to the LEC
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00:48.06C4coloinstead of channelized ISDN
00:49.02edibracif I'm setting up a asterisk box on that setup, should I have to know how the PRI gets to me? Those details should be "encapsulated" right?
00:49.44edibracor i guess your describing it to point out how different it is from other setups
00:50.10grandpapadotedibrac: I missed the first part of what you said, can you restate your question regarding PRIs?
00:50.29C4coloit shouldn't matter to your configuration 'how' the PRI gets to you
00:51.00C4colobut, if it is a locally generated PRI by an IAD, then the configuration of that IAD could be causing the problem
00:51.20C4coloI'm just saying that we had that issue with some Adtran IADs on our network, sounds close enough to suggest it as a possibility
00:51.48C4colohas the "monitoring" box been there the entire time? or did they add it when you were having dropped calls?
00:52.13edibracgrandpapadot: our telco (XO) dropped off something that monitors problems between their NIU and the CPE (our asterisk box). The errors correspond to our asterisk HDLC abort errors in the asterisk logs. The HDLC errors match up to dropped calls on our side. The weird thing, is that we had a known working asterisk box do the same thing, connected to the same PRI.
00:52.40edibracC4colo: they added it afterwards when we requested it
00:52.53C4coloah, then that is not an IAD
00:52.58grandpapadotPCI bug in the mobo?
00:53.33edibraci read a post in the mailing list that it could be the card ..or mobo. Just sounds like a hardware thing.
00:53.43grandpapadotWhat board are you terminating the PRI with in your box?
00:53.43edibracI just don't understand why it would do it for both boxes.
00:53.52edibracperhaps there are 2 problems.
00:53.55C4colo"The weird thing, is that we had a known working asterisk box do the same thing, connected to the same PRI."
00:54.00grandpapadotAre they both the same BIOS revision?
00:54.02C4coloso you have tested another pbx?
00:54.07C4coloand it acts the same way on this line
00:54.15C4colowhile the "good" pbx doesn't have that problem on other PRI lines?L
00:54.27grandpapadotWhat card are you using to terminate the PRIs?
00:54.55edibracthe old one is TE110 new one is TE121
00:55.10edibracDigium
00:55.35edibracBIOS.. i haven't check. They are both supermicro boxes
00:55.35JThave you checked zttest?
00:55.37grandpapadotOk, well if everything else is the same, it's obviously the card since they are different.
00:55.49edibracyeah zttest is cool.
00:55.58JTwhat results does it give?
00:56.00grandpapadotCheck to see if the BIOS versions are the same, sometimes vendors fix PCI timing bugs with BIOS updates.
00:56.20grandpapadotWhich card is problematic, the 110 or 121?
00:56.51edibracone thing - i was reading about PCI latency. And on the current broken one TE121, only the video card has a higher priority.
00:57.04JTedibrac: what zttest results do you get?
00:57.06edibracbut i figure that shouldn't matter - it's just asterisk installed.
00:57.13grandpapadotIs your 121 by change sharing an IRQ?
00:57.24JTdigium cards are extremely finicky
00:57.39grandpapadots/change/chance
00:57.40JTpri bitslips are a common problem
00:57.46grandpapadotJT: Agreed.
00:58.21edibracJT - IOW it's entirely reasonable that if I get antoher TE121 that may fix the issue?
00:58.26JTno
00:58.33edibraci checked IRQs they look good
00:58.41JTthey all have the same issues, they don't like some motherboards, etc
00:58.44grandpapadotHave you tried another slot?
00:58.52JTedibrac: third time, what zttest results do you get?
00:59.20edibracJT: yeah sorry - it looks good  99.998734%
00:59.36edibracer: --- Results after 104 passes ---
00:59.36edibracBest: 100.000 -- Worst: 99.991 -- Average: 99.998434, Difference: 99.998434
00:59.47JTedibrac: do you have zttest running during any of the times you've had a problem occur?
01:00.07JTsometimes zttest results will only go intermittently bad
01:00.13JTgenerally corresponding with a bitslip
01:00.16edibracthat would be nice, but I have no idea when it happens. I guess I could leave zttest running all the time --- that shouldn't hurt anything right?
01:00.39JTshould be alright, hard to gather useful stats from zttest when it runs for ages though
01:00.55edibracI take it you recommend Sangoma?
01:01.19JTeither that or a pri to sip gateway, eliminates a whole raft of possible headaches
01:03.32edibraci went down the "is this an IRQ miss problem" route but that doens't seem to be the case
01:04.08edibraci definately can't "force" the HDLC error to happen myself
01:06.29edibrachow relevant is this 2005 posting about how this guy dealt with his HDLC problems: http://www.mail-archive.com/asterisk-users@lists.digium.com/msg119398.html
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01:08.56JTedibrac: btw, did you try changing pci slots? sometimes that solves the issue
01:09.45edibraconly one PCI-E slot :(
01:09.58edibracor maybe there's an adapter thing?
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01:11.50jetsya and also make sure nothing else is sharing the irq with the card.
01:12.09jetsoh nevermind
01:12.15jetsi didn't see your note above about an irq miss problem.
01:12.17jets;)
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01:23.01JoshuaP0xhow do I verify that /usr/src/ contains a symbolic link named linux-2.4 pointing to your kernel source?
01:23.18JoshuaP0xhow do I verify that /usr/src/ contains a symbolic link named linux-2.4 pointing to my kernel source?
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01:30.31edibracwhat's the most "generic" hardware/distro setup for asterisk? something like CentOS, latest asterisk/dahdi/libpri by source and .. a popular digium or Sangoma card?
01:30.38edibracand a dell box?
01:31.14drumkillasounds about right
01:31.17drumkillaexcept for the Sangoma part
01:31.18drumkilla:-p
01:32.18[TK]D-Fenderdrumkilla: You're right...the Digium card would be ...."generic".
01:32.31[TK]D-Fenderedibrac: So.... you wan't an awesome system.....right? ;)
01:32.36drumkillaharsh
01:32.49[TK]D-Fenderdrumkilla: You said it ;)
01:32.55[TK]D-Fender(j/k overll)
01:33.00[TK]D-Fenderoverall*
01:33.00JoshuaP0xhow do I verify that /usr/src/ contains a symbolic link named linux-2.4 pointing to my kernel source?
01:33.04drumkillaI was taking generic to mean most common, most likely to work properly, etc.  :-p
01:33.16drumkillalinux-2.4?
01:33.21JoshuaP0xyes
01:33.25drumkilladahdi doesn't even support linux 2.4 ..
01:33.27JoshuaP0xI don't know what that means
01:33.30drumkillaoic.
01:33.32[TK]D-Fenderuses the dictionary when implementing words and deploying sentences.
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01:33.40JoshuaP0xthe book says to do that
01:33.48drumkilladisables the pedantic flag on [TK]D-Fender
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01:34.34[TK]D-FenderERROR: "pedantic=no" is no longer supported in this version, and good riddence!
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01:34.59[TK]D-Fenderdrumkilla: So like.. y0 'sup homie? ;)
01:35.20drumkillaholla back, yo
01:35.21[TK]D-Fenderdrumkilla: Sportin' the streen-nick an all...
01:35.26[TK]D-Fenderstreet*
01:35.57[TK]D-Fenderis STILL moving his company's offices around... right through midnight
01:37.07normsteeldoes raid really effect asterisks stability?
01:37.20normsteel..raid1
01:38.06drumkillaif disk I/O locks out interrupts for a long time, and you're using TDM hardware, then yes
01:39.10hardwireyou guys eve seen a cat5e patch panel that has centronics connectors and a big bundled tie cable going to another similar patch?
01:39.13hardwireI'd.. love.. that
01:39.29mmatticeyeah
01:39.40hardwireyou know who makes it?
01:39.53mmatticeyou should be able to get it at any major telco supply
01:40.03hardwireis it cat5e rated?
01:40.20mmatticepossibly
01:40.25hardwireI've only seen 8 way versions that don't really say cat5 anything on them
01:40.37mmatticewhy 5e?
01:41.09hardwiredunno.. will any ol twisted pair work?
01:41.24hardwireI don't want to use a funny awg and crappy connectors that don't pass muster
01:41.30mmatticefor what?  phones?
01:42.01hardwiregigabit network
01:42.21mmatticeI wouldn't suggest doing that.
01:42.42hardwireif I can't find the product, I won't be able to anyways :)
01:43.17edibrac.
01:43.30edibracnormsteel: you suck
01:52.24hardwireI guess they took it outside.
01:52.57hardwirehttp://www.siemon.com/apps/Utilities/showImageDisplay.asp?showImage=/share/products05/mp_hd5-quick-patch-panel_big.jpg
01:53.18hardwirethat's cute
01:53.54JoshuaP0xwhat does the make command do?
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02:07.01eppigyhello
02:07.09eppigyi am dave
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02:08.03justdavewonders if that's a bot that just does that at random
02:08.46eppigynegative
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02:36.06[TK]D-Fenderjustdave: It's just signaling the shift in persona... it is kinda crowded up there after all ;)
02:38.45eppigy[TK]D-Fender: hello i am trying to use chan_celliax to contact puerto rico
02:38.51eppigyand seem to be getting an error
02:38.54eppigycan you help me
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03:01.56davidR2008hey all
03:02.14davidR2008any festival experts?
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03:05.02TrentCreeksure..i love festivals
03:05.49eppigyi see what you did there
03:06.34davidR2008well I do too, but I doubt you'll love my festival ;-)
03:08.05eppigydavidR2008: I am dave as well
03:15.24davidR2008I followed method one here: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+Festival+installation and it's not working. I'm on CentOS 5.1 / Asterisk 1.4.20
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03:16.35davidR2008I was hoping to talk it through with someone more knowledgeable then me on this
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03:17.49phixhey
03:18.18phixNo matter what number I dial on my Nokia E65, it always rings s on my asterisl dial plan
03:18.22phixany one had this issue?
03:18.45[TK]D-Fenderphix: Show us the SIP debug of the call
03:25.59ScribbleJWhoot, AGI rocks.  I guess this probably exists a million times over but I just put together an AGI script to reject an incoming call, then automatically place a call to that same incoming number, if it meets a list of approved #s.
03:26.09ScribbleJAsterisk is so fun.
03:28.49[TK]D-FenderScribbleJ: Depending on how much logic is required to make that decision it could all be done in dialplan...
03:29.08ScribbleJReally?  I am new to this, but I couldn't fgure out how to get a dialplan to hang up on someone, basically, then call them back.
03:29.16ScribbleJI thought the dialplan terminated with the call.
03:31.28ScribbleJI did it by writing an AGI that takes the caller ID, tells asterisk to hangup, spawns another process and returns, the other process then writes a .call file with the appropriate details and moves it into the /spool/outbound dir to generate the call.
03:31.34ScribbleJWorks like a charm.
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03:33.38[TK]D-FenderScribbleJ: use System() to call the script that will issue the call-file with the # as a parameter.  In your call-file, the channel it uses will be a Local channel whose dialplan will start with a Wiat().  Your script will almost immediately return.  You then simply hangup.
03:34.30[TK]D-FenderScribbleJ: this is the "execution part".  The lookup part depends on the level of complexity you require.  *'s DB capabilities could possible handle this all direct, or AstDB for local minimal stuff
03:34.39ScribbleJYeah.
03:34.52[TK]D-FenderScribbleJ: If nothing else, this is food for thought for you for future tasks
03:35.55ScribbleJThat all makes sense to me except the 'local channel' part, I guess that means instead of having the .call file place the outbound call directly, I have it call 'asterisk' and go into a dialplan that wait()s then makes the call out... I see, yeah.
03:35.57ScribbleJClever.
03:36.17ScribbleJWell as my goal was to learn to use AGI I guess I did all right anyhow.
03:36.17ScribbleJHeh
03:36.25[TK]D-Fender<- smarter than the average bear
03:36.48ScribbleJThat also solves anohter problem I was having -
03:37.00ScribbleJCouldn't figure out how to specify ultiple providers to try in the .call file
03:37.10ScribbleJEasy neough to do in a dialplan though.
03:37.18[TK]D-FenderScribbleJ: You... Local channels make so many other problems disappear
03:37.22[TK]D-Fenderyup*
03:37.42[TK]D-FenderScribbleJ: jsut remember to be VERY careful about when channels get "answered"
03:37.59ScribbleJThat makes perfect sense, I will have to learn how to set up local channels.
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03:38.57ScribbleJOh? I'm still a bit fuzzy on the proper use of Answer() and Hangup().  In fact I didn't want to Answer() the incoming call at all, just let it ring once then reject it, but that I could not figure out how to do.
03:39.34ScribbleJIf I hangup() without having Answer()d my one provider goes nuts trying to retry me and fills all my channels, the other drops them to it's vm system.
03:39.44ScribbleJNeither of which is what I'd hoped to get.
03:46.39[TK]D-FenderScribbleJ: Play around a bit, I'm sure you'd jsut about on top of it.
03:47.27ScribbleJOh, I am.  Playing with Asterisk has been awesome fun these last two days.  I plan to screw around with it most of the weekend.
03:47.48ScribbleJThis is probably inadviable overall, but right now I plan to write some AGI to process a credit card payment over the phone.
03:48.10ScribbleJJust for playing around... I'm sure I'll look into the details and learn my VoiP protocols are totally insecure and unsuitable.
03:49.46[TK]D-FenderScribbleJ: AGI pays off if you have a variety of little things that are a PITA for * to do in dialplan as well.  It jsut a question of evaluating a specific case.
03:49.53phix[TK]D-Fender: ok I will pastebin it for you mate
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03:50.47ScribbleJYeah, I can see getting all the required data in a dialplan, but -
03:51.28ScribbleJOh, I see, I could accumulate the data in a dialplan and then uses System() to make a call out to process... eh, maybe, exposing the cc num on the command line like that sounds like a bad idea.
03:52.22ScribbleJEh, there's so many ways to do everything, I guess 'learning asterisk' is mostly the process of learning the good ways and the bad ways.
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04:06.14dacshowdy
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04:10.16[TK]D-Fenderdoody
04:13.58phix:D
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04:24.35dacs~book
04:24.36jbot[book] probably Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF at http://www.asteriskdocs.org --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com or see ~buybook
04:25.14phix[TK]D-Fender: Dec 20 15:24:53 WARNING[4324]: chan_sip.c:1229 retrans_pkt: Maximum retries exceeded on transmission A613Z5Y0oIc-OM4mjBjQhwdRZwYIcr for seqno 1437 (Critical Response)
04:26.16[TK]D-Fenderphix: Its been over 1/2 hour since you said you were gtting me that pastebin, and ANOTHER 1/2 prior is when I asked you for it in the first place...
04:26.24[TK]D-Fenderphix: and you paste one useless line?
04:26.34[TK]D-Fenderphix: that doesn't tell anything
04:26.42[TK]D-Fenderphix: Try again...
04:27.05phixhaha yeah I was busy TK :)
04:27.07phixI will try again
04:27.19phixshould I check the number before I try again?
04:27.32phixset debug 5?
04:27.35phixthat dgood enough?
04:30.15[TK]D-Fenderphix: SIP DEBUG.  you know.. what I asked for over an hour ago...
04:31.38eppigybusiness as usual
04:32.13theharhides
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04:37.10phix[TK]D-Fender: hmmm, I think I will debug this later, I am over it :) thanx any way for being there :P
04:39.05dacsanyone here using Linksys PAP2
04:39.29dacsi just picked one from walmart for $2
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04:39.39dacsbrand new in the box
04:40.13dacsi don't know if it was mislabeled or what
04:40.34thehardacs i use them but not usING
04:40.56dacs?
04:41.07theharwe use them for 2 line residential iads
04:42.01dacsdo i have to hack it or is it open... i mean is it lock to a specific provider
04:43.22theharuhm we use the pap2t
04:44.26dacsmine is just PAP2
04:44.54[TK]D-Fenderdacs: Did the box mention a provider?
04:45.12[TK]D-Fenderdacs: Walmart generally never carries stuff like this that isn't locked to some company or another
04:45.38dacs[TK]D-Fender: i can't remember i throw the box
04:45.50[TK]D-FenderSMRT
04:45.55dacs:)
04:46.04[TK]D-Fenderdacs: plug it in and try to admin it.
04:46.24[TK]D-Fenderdacs: then if that fails wireshark whatever it treis to do and see where it's phoning home to
04:48.16drmessano^Nice
04:48.29drmessano^Now you have no clue what version it is to even unlock it
04:48.33drmessano^SMRT
04:50.36dacsi just throw the box this morning in the dumpster ... let me go try my luck
04:50.56dacsi will go dig it out
04:51.05dacsi just hope they didn't take it
04:51.07dacs:(
04:51.15[TK]D-FenderDumpster diving : The bottome of the hacking food-chain
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04:51.39dacs:)
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04:59.44dacs[TK]D-Fender: i got it...hahaha my neighbor was laughing his ass off...  i said you wouldn't understand
05:00.09drmessano^SO what color is the top of the box?
05:00.14drmessano^Orange or Grey?
05:00.28eppigyand what coplor was it before you put it in the dumpster
05:00.36[TK]D-Fender:p
05:00.41dacsits Vonage
05:00.43dacs:(
05:00.47drmessano^SO what color is the top of the box?
05:00.48drmessano^Orange or Grey?
05:00.59drmessano^They're all Vonage if you got a PAP2 from wal-mart
05:01.00dacsoh wait whats that bad smell
05:01.01[TK]D-Fenderdacs: Good... they are better documented as far as unlocking goes
05:01.02dacslol
05:01.07drmessano^Orange or Grey?
05:01.13dacsits orange
05:01.22drmessano^Ok, its a V1 then
05:01.33drmessano^Easy to unlock
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05:02.59dacsdrmessano^: am ready to read
05:03.08drmessano^So go do it
05:04.23dacsyou have a document
05:04.30thehargoogle
05:05.01drmessano^Theres a whole internet out there
05:05.26drmessano^I have several, Google has dozens
05:19.55[TK]D-Fenderok, heading home.  Back tomorrow some time...
05:20.00theharbyeeee
05:20.22theharchatzilla? wow
05:20.28thehari didn't know people actually used that.
05:20.30theharirssi ftw
05:23.49dacsi keep getting bad password
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05:25.18drmessano^Of course you do
05:25.20drmessano^Its locked
05:25.22drmessano^dug
05:25.24drmessano^duh
05:25.25drmessano^too
05:25.29thehardrink up drmessano^
05:25.30thehardrink up
05:26.23drmessano^I don't drink
05:27.29coppiceyou must get damned thirsty
05:27.43theharPARCHED
05:27.54drmessanopoints to the IV fluid bag
05:28.32drmessanoAfter I got over 700lbs, I stopped being able to open my jaw to drink
05:28.40drmessano:(
05:29.10theharbig big bendy perm-straw
05:29.23drmessanoCan't open my mouth
05:29.28drmessanoWanna fight about it?
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05:29.31theharrefrains
05:30.21dacsdrmessano: can you help me unlock my PAP2
05:30.32coppiceI think anyone claiming to be 700lb on IRC is probably a hot young woman in real life
05:30.43theharor hot young man
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05:31.45drmessanodacs: There's DOZENS of guides online
05:31.46coppicewhatever lights your candle :-)
05:32.18theharwould you light my candle?
05:32.28coppicedrmessano: and they all agree with one another?
05:32.58drmessanocoppice: Pretty much the same method.. and only one method
05:33.49drmessanohttp://www.unlockmypap2.com/
05:33.54drmessanoZ O M GOOGLE
05:33.57thehargasp
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05:38.29coppicea somewhat narrowly focussed site. I wonder if they registered anything like sodvonage.com?
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05:46.15echinosI see sample configs etc. with leading underscores in front of extensions like so:exten => _1NXXNXXXXXX
05:46.21echinoswhat's the underscore for?
05:47.13theharpattern matching
05:47.51echinosah, yes
05:48.06echinosthx
05:48.16theharasterisk oreilly book. reads it
05:48.21echinosit's the "this is a pattern match extension" token
05:48.44echinoshads to buys it firsts
05:48.53theharpdf free online
05:49.00jasonprgot a link?
05:49.01echinoswha!?
05:49.10theharsec
05:49.12echinoslink or it's not true ;)
05:49.21theharSECOND
05:49.22jasonprlol
05:49.25echinosKIDDING!
05:49.46theharoreilly charges but it's everywhere.. let me link
05:50.01echinosI'd give you kudos if there was a bot to keep track of it
05:50.02thehari think leif has it on his domains
05:50.26theharjbot
05:50.26jasonpr2nd edition?
05:50.32theharjbot speak!
05:50.33jbotARFFFFFFFFFFFF
05:50.39theharjbot pdf me
05:50.45echinosthehar++
05:50.57echinosjbot karma?
05:50.58jbotit has been said that karma is $1 has power karma
05:51.13echinosjbot thehar karma?
05:51.22thehar[5~ree downloadable PDF at  http://www.asteriskdocs.org --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com or see ~buybook
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05:51.51DMMattHi
05:52.05echinosyou da man
05:52.26echinostyvm
05:52.50jasonprbought book..... I keep hitting <Ctrl-F> nothing happens
05:52.51thehar:)
05:52.59thehari have book in pdf and hard copy
05:53.06thehari like highlighters and stickie tabs
05:53.19DMMattWhen I get incoming calls, the caller ID is always "New User"... Have I mis configured something?
05:53.26theharperhaps
05:53.29jasonprhas anyone done a fax server in linux....
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05:53.41theharyes. hylafax
05:54.00jasonprdon't you have to have zap channels for that to work?
05:54.15jasonprhardlines n-such?
05:54.33theharprobably. but i have many pri
05:54.36theharor.
05:54.46theharairquote hardlines
05:55.24coppicejasonpr: what kind of server are you looking for, if you don't want hard lines?
05:55.47jasonprI was hoping I could get something running on t38....
05:56.00jasonprI really have no clue how t38 works.
05:56.27coppicecallweaver, asterisk 1.6, or hylafax + t38modem are options for that
05:57.03jasonprasterisk 1.6 + fax == smoke flames and plenty of crashes
05:57.08jasonpratleast for me
05:57.22jasonprevery time I call sendFax
05:57.26jasonprit kills asterisk
05:58.24jasonprHonestly I'd really rather pay a decent rate to use an XML webservice
05:58.37jasonprbut the only decent service out here is like $0.20/page
05:59.08jasonprasterfax is kind of a mess to get setup
05:59.50jasonprI'll have to hylafax a shot
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06:04.10coppiceif asterisk 1.6 + fax == smoke flames you probably have multiple copies of spandsp installed. asterisk built with one, and the runtime is trying to use the other
06:11.31jasonprya know I think that's probably it.... thanks coppice
06:20.12d-techanyone recommend a economical dual fxs with failover and iax support?
06:21.56orkideffin betamax up to their scamming ways again, some of the calls that were marked FREE suddenly changed to FUP and got charged. wtf
06:22.18phixI keep pressing <CRTL+ALT+WORK> button sequence but it isn't working yet :)
06:22.43orkidi dont have a work button
06:22.46orkid:)
06:22.51d-techyou forgot the SHIFT key!
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06:24.51phixd-tech: ah! thanx, that was the problem :)
06:24.55phixit is working now :P
06:25.05echinosOk, so I have my * box announcing the caller ID before it answers the phone, but can I make the caller hear ringing while the System function is running?
06:25.22phixyes
06:25.28phixthere is an option to do it
06:25.32echinosRight now they hear 5 or 6 seconds of silence, then they hear the Playback message
06:25.33phixI don't know what it is though
06:25.41echinosk
06:25.48echinosI'll go spelunking
06:28.20echinosso maybe use the ringing() cmd first.... lesee what I get with that
06:30.02echinoswell, it's _better_, but I only hear one ring, and then I hear more silence... It at least provides feedback that something is happening
06:34.40phpboyLOL :(
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06:46.37phixI has scotch + sushi
06:46.41phixfor the win
06:49.04phpboyI'm reading up on the benefits of drinking green tea
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06:57.34drmessanoI just got details banged out for a power efficient PBX
06:58.34coppicewatt?
06:59.28drmessanoCalls come in and the unused modem on a workstation sees the line ring... sends a Wake-On-Lan to the PBX, turning it on.. If the line is still ringing in 2 or 3 minutes, asterisk takes the call, passes it thru.   When the call ends, a cron job, which is running every 30 seconds, checked for active calls using AMI and if none, shuts the PBX back down.
06:59.32drmessanoIts brilliant
07:00.42drmessanoI'm hoping to chop that 2 or 3 minutes down to a minute and a half, which will greatly reduce dropped calls.. but that's for later down the line
07:01.58phpboyhmmmm, it seems asterisk stops transmitting voice all of a sudden from SIP to PTSN
07:02.11phpboybut only from the SIP side, can anybody think of what that could be?
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07:03.28phixphpboy: nice, I can tell you the benefits of drinking scotch :)
07:04.40phpboyphix :D
07:04.50phpboyI need to figure out why SIP stops transmitting voice
07:05.09phpboythe fucked up part of it is, I can here the voices from both sides of the recording
07:05.11phixit is probably firewall / NAT related
07:05.17phpboyLAN
07:05.28phixoh
07:05.37phpboyWhat are the odds of it being my PRI cable?
07:05.42phpboyperhaps electric interference?
07:06.11phixmaybe
07:06.24phpboywhat are the odds though, vs it being asterisk?
07:07.01phixpossible
07:07.10phixare you testing it with softphones?
07:07.15phixor hardware phones?
07:07.18phpboynope, snom 300's
07:07.24phix<3
07:07.27phixhow much are those?
07:07.32phixare they worther buying?
07:07.37phpboydefinitely
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07:07.47phpboya touch expensive, well at least in my country
07:07.54phpboybut worth every cent
07:08.37phpboyI lie
07:08.45phpboyit's actually the PTSN to SIP that's the problem
07:08.47phixwhere are you from?
07:09.06phpboyI can here the person from the PSTN side speaking but the person on the SIP phone can't hear him/her
07:09.25phpboySouth Africa
07:09.29drmessanoNAT
07:10.26phixah
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07:10.35phixsounds NAT related
07:10.48phixphpboy: what model do you recomend?
07:11.40phpboydrmessano, phix: Can't be NAT, I don't use nat
07:11.42phpboyit's a LAN
07:11.43phpboy:(
07:11.58phpboyperhaps network related?
07:12.02phpboyit's a HUGE network
07:12.10phpboysome 300 handsets/computers connected
07:12.24phpboyphix: for hard phone?
07:14.02coppiceif you call 300 handsets a HUGE network, what adjective do you use for China Mobile's 450M handsets on a network?
07:14.27phpboycoppice: In South Africa
07:14.30phpboythis is huge
07:14.31phpboy:(
07:14.38phpboyok, I'll rephrase
07:14.44phpboyit's a big network?
07:14.46phpboy:P
07:14.59phpboyanyhoo, do you guys think it may be network related?
07:16.38phixphpboy: yes
07:16.40phixsnom
07:16.57phpboyphix: for a desk phone, definitely the Snom 300
07:17.04phpboyGrandstream is the DEVIL
07:17.17phixI cant find it on ebay :(
07:17.18phpboyphix: How can I confirm that it's a network problem though?
07:17.36phpboyI'm guessing you're from the state?
07:17.39phpboy*states
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07:22.26phixphpboy: wrong guess :) I am closer than you think
07:22.42phixin the southern hemisphere
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07:25.19phpboyZimbabwe?
07:25.23phpboy:P
07:25.39phpboyah
07:25.40phpboy.au
07:25.42phpboynice
07:25.42phix:P
07:25.44phixyup
07:26.00phpboyanyhoo, is there any way I can prove my SIP issues are network related?
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07:26.20phixhmmmmm
07:26.39phpboyalso considering this is a layer 1 network
07:26.43phpboynothing advanced :(
07:26.47phpboywhich I know is a problem
07:27.09phixwtf, 300 nodes on a layer 1 network? as in just hubs? no switches?
07:27.10phpboyconsidering it's sizer
07:27.17phpboyswitches
07:27.22phpboybut on layer1 level
07:27.37phixthe physical layer
07:27.37phix?
07:27.42phpboyit would be 600+ nodes
07:27.46phpboyyeah
07:27.49uyhfdhi
07:27.50phixhmmm, switched network == data link
07:27.57uyhfdto all
07:28.13phpboyLayer 1 switch, i.e. NOTHING special
07:28.20phpboywe're moving to layer 3 switches
07:28.23phpboybut not yet :/
07:28.48phpboyphix: you think this would be a problem?
07:28.58phixLayer 1 isn;t a switch, it is a hub :)
07:29.09phpboythen what is a basic switch?
07:29.20phpboyconsidering layer 2 is managed?
07:29.59phixno
07:30.05phixa basic switch is layer 2
07:30.10phixa basic hub is layer 1
07:30.12phpboyhmmmm
07:30.20phixlayer 2 doesn't mean it is managed
07:30.38phpboyhmmm
07:30.55phpboyThen why does cisco for instance call the 2924XL switch Layer 2?
07:31.00phpboyand it happens to be manager
07:31.01phpboymanaged
07:31.07drmessanoO.o
07:31.11phixyou can get a managed hub, managed means you have more control over the workings of the hub / switch, you can set different thingies on each port, do other snazzy things too
07:31.39phpboyok, let's take a step back
07:31.45phixhehe
07:31.51phpboyI'm not too worried about switch terminology now
07:32.03phpboyI need to figure out what's up with this system
07:32.14phpboyso you think it's safe to bet it's network related?
07:33.09phixlol
07:33.20phpboy:(
07:33.29phpboyphix, speak to me
07:33.30phpboy:/
07:33.31phixI DONT KNOW! :) do some tests
07:33.37phixinstall wireshark
07:33.43phpboyhmmm
07:33.48phixsee if there are any known network issues
07:33.58phixthen try and connect to certain ports that SIP uses
07:34.40phixyay! MacGyver made a new friend!
07:35.14drmessanoSounds like a Layer 8 problem to me
07:35.36phpboydrmessano: Elaborate please?
07:36.27drmessanophpboy: How old are you?
07:37.13phpboydrmessano: Does it matter?
07:37.39drmessanoNevermind then
07:38.02phpboyDid I just cut my nose to spite my face?
07:39.39phpboydrmessano: I'm 23
07:39.51phpboydrmessano: Now, do you care to elaborate, please
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07:43.14orkiddont mind him
07:46.24drmessanoTroll
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07:56.30phpboydrmessano: Let's just assume because I'm South African, I'm not well educated and you being the giving person you are, you'll help me see the proverbial light?
07:57.04phpboydrmessano: I would really appreciate it if you could help me here, please.
08:02.09drmessanoI can't testify to how well educated you are, but certainly you show no lacking of it based on your use of proper punctuation and a better-than-5th-grade-vocabulary.
08:02.31drmessanoDoes your asterisk box have multiple NICs?
08:04.14phpboyIt does, 1 NIC for LAN and the other for a direct SIP connection to another network (this is hooked up directly to the router connected to the external network)
08:04.38drmessanoSounds like you're having problems with reinvites
08:04.55drmessanoI would suggest setting up wireshark and watching whats going on
08:05.21phpboyWhat would this entail?
08:05.44drmessanoSetting up wireshark and then doing some watching of what is going on
08:05.46phpboyok, I'm guessing I'd have to put wireshark on the asterisk server?
08:05.51drmessanoNO!
08:06.02drmessanoGoogle is your friend
08:06.03phpboyI've never used wireshark before :(
08:06.07drmessanoSet up wireshark
08:06.10drmessanoGo read
08:06.16phpboyI've already installed it on my local pc, playing around with it.
08:06.30phpboydrmessano: Anything else I may want to have a look at?
08:07.07phpboyor at least bear in mind?
08:07.15drmessanoYou can check the asterisk log for errors
08:08.03phpboyI've been looking through /var/log/asterisk/debug, nothing looks strange in there
08:11.29phpboy[Dec 20 10:09:21] WARNING[31532] ast_expr2.fl: If you have questions, please refer to doc/channelvariables.txt in the asterisk source. <--- that doesn't help too much
08:11.41phpboywhere would I look for that in the configs?
08:16.32phpboywoops, I'm being stupid
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08:19.24phpboy:( reloaded asterisk and not getting anymore typos, but still getting errors in /var/log/asterisk/messages :/
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08:31.04flaccidexcuse me if i sound like a n00b, but is asterisk all sweet on freebsd atm?
08:39.32SparFuxWhy noob? It's a valid question.
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08:48.12PanGoatflaccid: I can't answer with any authority, but did succesfully install and currently run it on several Mac OS X boxes FWIW.
08:49.03PanGoatthe only hitch I ran into was that you have to use the ztdummy driver (if you don't have hardware) and want to do conferencing.
08:49.37PanGoatthere are instructions for compiling, and I think even a FreeBSD binary
08:53.22Subdolusi have "Set(TIMEOUT(absolute)=2400)" in my context, how can i execute another command only when it times out and hungs up?
08:53.35SubdolusI tried ,t,Command(here) but it didnt go to that
08:58.44flaccidthanks PanGoat
08:59.00flaccidi shall install the freebsd port and go from there. what is fwiw?
08:59.56PanGoatFor What Its Worth
09:01.06flaccidah cheers
09:01.11PanGoatmeaning "just a casual piece of information that you can take at your leisure". I'm just as much a asterisk noob most likely.
09:02.16flaccidi aint used it yet. can i just have a working modem in my computer and use that for hooking up pstn service to the pbx/asterisk ?
09:05.30SwKflaccid, no
09:06.00phpboyflaccid: depends on what you wanna do with it
09:06.06phpboybasic SIP, works just fine
09:06.12flaccidok. how can i achieve this? i just want a pbx for home
09:06.13SwKyou need a very specific modem with a very specific chip that was discontinued a while back for hooking you your phoneline...
09:06.25SwKyou can get sip service from a variety of places onthe cheap tho
09:06.31flaccidoh. i have about 30 modems in a box but
09:06.32phpboyflaccid: start by installing the asterisk port and asterisk-addons port
09:06.47flaccidthanks phpboy and SwK
09:17.13TrentCreeksure
09:22.29Subdolusguys, how do i put the equivelent of "g" in Dial, in my call file?
09:22.56Subdolusso when a call that i made with the call file will continueto go on after it is hungup
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09:49.50amaacheHi
09:50.48amaachePlz have u a good support sites for my univ telecom study :-)
09:55.12amaachePlz have u a good support for asterisk & co sites for my univ telecom study :-)
09:56.57stintel~book
09:56.58jboti heard book is probably Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF at http://www.asteriskdocs.org --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com or see ~buybook
09:57.32tzafrir_laptopamaache, have you tried some basic research?
09:58.14tzafrir_laptope.g. feed the query "asterisk support" to your favorite search engine?
09:59.00tzafrir_laptopyahoo gives some relevant results there
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10:37.47dsp2877hello all
10:41.56dsp2877anyone here have much experience with chan_alsa?
11:04.30TrentCreeknever heard of it
11:05.23dsp2877lol ok
11:05.39dsp2877its the sound/console driver for asterisk
11:07.25TrentCreektry again in a about 3-4 hours when more people are on
11:07.32dsp2877okay
11:07.46TrentCreekmost people on here are in the US
11:07.55dsp2877ic
11:08.02dsp2877ok got that
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12:20.40amaacheHi all; do you know any support site of asterisk or trixbox? :-)
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12:25.08onatshi, is there a gui based config tool for asterisk?
12:25.33onatswhich version should i use btw? I only have a single fxo card at home, and i want to be able to use it as a small pbx?
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12:43.30TrentCreekonats: FreePBX
12:44.10onatsok thanks
12:44.12yang~asterisk-gui
12:44.13jbot[~asterisk-gui] The Asterisk-GUI is an open source project lead by Digium. It's client-driven, and its only dependency is Asterisk itself. Check out the new version from svn here: $ svn co http://svn.digium.com/svn/asterisk-gui/branches/2.0 asterisk-gui-2.0.  For support go to  #asterisk-gui
12:45.10joatany opinions on the LInksys SPA3102?  (i.e., is it worth the $30 a friend is asking?)
12:45.11onatsyang, thanks!
12:45.33joaterr.. s/LInksys/Linksys
12:45.42joatcan't type!
12:46.09yangjoat: You can get SIPURA's on EBAY for less than 10 usd
12:46.27TrentCreeki would be careful of Linksys stuff..those are usually locked
12:46.33joatthis has one FXS and one FXO
12:46.38joatsupposedly open
12:46.52joathe got it from voipsupply
12:47.03TrentCreekokay..then prob good
12:47.09yangjoat: 30 USD is the usual price for it in the stores
12:47.52joatfor the one with one FXS and one FXO?  they go for around $70
12:48.19TrentCreekI got a Linksys PAP2T with 2 lines, and you can have it use different providers for eahc line..only $50 a year ago from voipsupply
12:48.56TrentCreekit's based on Sipura..been happy with it
12:49.33joatliked my PAP2, lost it in a lightning strike...
12:49.59yangI saw one like that yesterday from the company trust - brand new for 20 usd
12:50.15yangI ll get it next time
12:50.41TrentCreekohh.....nice price..i am looking to get more of them
12:52.25yangWhat i was curious about, if its possible to make the really old analog phones, which didn't have a tone dial to plug them to asterisk
12:52.33TrentCreekdarn..it's in Europe..by the time I pay shipping..loss on converting to Euro, etc..It would be the same price as here
12:53.28TrentCreekyang: you dont plug them into Asterisk..you plug them into a A/D converter
12:53.59yangyes, i mean over that
12:54.19yangprobably i would need an FXO/FXS card
12:54.45yangbut you know those phones had a 3-pin plug
12:54.52TrentCreekyeah.not sure you can plug a rotary into a VOIP device
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12:55.13TrentCreekbut why even do that when Tone ones can be had for $5?
12:55.28yangSimply out of curiosity
12:56.13yangIf you do the calculation a sipura is more expenssive than the low-end VOIP phones (ebay)
12:56.51TrentCreekdepends on what you define less expensive.
12:57.03TrentCreekYou get what you pay for
12:57.54TrentCreekI had a cheap DLink..nothing but trouble. I think it is in some landfill right now
12:58.35TrentCreekso now I am up to a larger cost because of junk..so much for "more" expensive
13:02.37yangI agree with you, low-cost phones make you more troubles when speaking through them
13:02.49yangbad sound quality
13:06.33TrentCreekyes, I have been very happy with the sound quality. Just like a land line
13:06.45yangso which one do you use now?
13:08.34yangI have been using Grandstream fro the last year (trouble), and latelly I have been trying out Snoms
13:12.53SwKhint: just buy a polycom or a snome or a cisco hard phone ... its worth the extra money
13:13.11SwKs/snome/snom/
13:16.51yangSwK: About Cisco's are the Asterisk (SIP) capable ?
13:17.53joatsome are, some aren't (need to read the specs)
13:19.11yanglinksys are among the top phones I read
13:19.12SwKyang, if you get they have SIP images available... like joat said... depends on the phone...
13:19.21SwKSPA phones are crap imho
13:19.40yangSwK: have you tried linksys?
13:19.49SwKbeen doing this for over 5 years ;)
13:20.02yangSwK: so, snoms are better in your opinion?
13:20.28SwKI rank them as follows Polycom, Snom, Cisco, and then down hill from there
13:20.41yangSnoms are also like the dual price of linksys
13:20.43SwK(some people will debate that top 3 ordering, but they are the best)
13:20.53yangok
13:20.59yangWhat about AAstra ?
13:21.04SwKi loath them
13:21.16yangloath ?
13:21.21SwKhate
13:21.23yangok
13:21.39SwKloathing ;) good english word for you... look it up heh
13:22.37SwKbut AAstras work ok on a LAN dont try using them if NAT seperates them (unless the finally fixed that issue in the past 5 or 6 months)
13:23.39SwKthey are ok quality... thing is I prefer to use something like Snom or Polycom as your configs are all the same for them basically and they offer a variety of phones from the 100 usd mark and up (and if you look just a little but you can find them cheaper then that
13:24.14yanghehe, I was also curious on testing out this (for video) http://www.provu.co.uk/ipvideo_bvp8882.html
13:24.35SwKthat might be interesting
13:24.42yangI can get it for 15 EUR
13:24.54TrentCreekyang: I use Linksys PAP2T
13:25.07SwKcant remember the website but I just found some korean sip video phones I think the us distributor is going to send me for testing
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13:25.16SwKPAP2Ts are the best ATAs
13:25.20joatlooks weird... usb for wifi dongle?
13:25.31TrentCreekSwK: Seems most of the discussion on here is about problems with Polycoms
13:25.31yangSwK: however i am afraid of the low audio quality
13:25.38SwKyou cant go wrong with a sipura or linksys ATA for an analog phone
13:26.31SwKTrentCreek, every phone has problems... they are software driven... I've been using polycoms w/ asterisk for over 5 years and where i've had the occation software issues, once you have them setup and working they just work
13:26.45yangthe good quality video phones still range around 300 EUR +
13:26.47SwKsame thing can be said of snom and cisco
13:26.54TrentCreekgroovy
13:27.21SwKyeah thats any good quality video phone... thats why I wanna see what these korean things are like... they look pretty nice, but the proof is actually laying hands on one
13:27.46SwKTrentCreek, the problem with alotta this stuff is people have to fix whats not broken if you know what I mean
13:27.58yangSwK: you should write some reviews, if you tested so many phones :)
13:28.15SwKyou have a nice stable system, and some new bell or whistle comes out and they go screwing with things and then all of a sudden problems all over the place
13:28.18joatyang: the provu comes with PTZ as an option?  even weirder
13:28.31SwKyang, i'm not writer heh
13:28.33yangjoat: I don't know what PTZ is
13:28.43SwKpan tilt zoom
13:28.44joatpan tilt zoom
13:28.49joatcamera control
13:29.06SwKpan == left right, tilt = up down and well you know what zoom lenses are
13:29.07yangI tried video with the Ekiga soft-client so far so good
13:29.17SwKI use eyebeam on my mac all the time
13:29.27SwKthat works with a number of video soft and hardphones
13:29.35joattried ekiga to grandstream 2000 video...
13:29.41SwKPolycom makes a super nice video conf phone
13:29.42joatthe grandstream worked nicely
13:29.51joatekiga ate up a lot of processing power
13:29.53yangjoat: you mean GXV-3000 ?
13:29.59joatah... yeah
13:30.17joathad it on loan from work
13:30.28yangjoat: I hate GS, This week 3 firmware upgrades went corrupt
13:30.31SwKhahaha
13:30.40TrentCreekSwK: yeah I knwo what you mean
13:30.56joatyikes
13:30.58SwKI have a handytone286 or whatever its called..
13:31.14yangI think there is no way to restore the firmware back, only factory reset
13:31.17SwKthis thing feels like it was made in china for the toy markets of walmart
13:31.29yangSwK: yep
13:31.34joatcan't bitch about the one bt200 on my desk (it was free)
13:31.41SwKheh
13:31.55SwKi have a polycom 550 on my desk here at home and its a super nice phone
13:32.04yangjoat: I would assume that BT-series are much better than the GXP-series
13:32.13SwKhahaha
13:32.17SwKthe bt series are crap
13:32.17joatheh
13:32.25joatlow end
13:32.28SwKsuper low end
13:32.36joatit's actually my alarm clock
13:32.40SwKlike so low end walmart would say thats too low end for us
13:32.43yangI purchased a BT-100 , will see how it works
13:33.14joatallison reads the weather forecast every morning
13:33.24joatthat's about all the use it sees
13:33.29SwKhttp://cgi.ebay.com/Polycom-Soundpoint-IP-550-Phone-Four-Lines-SIP-VoIP_W0QQitemZ290283276422QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCOMP_Telecom_IP_Telephony?hash=item290283276422&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1234|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A50
13:33.36SwKsee thats apretty good price on that
13:33.38yangthere is no market for voip phones in my country, only imports mailorders
13:33.50SwKyang, what country is that?
13:34.31yangSwK: uh, weird design :)
13:34.37yangSlovenia
13:36.14yangHeh, I was impressed by the SNOM 820 it has some sort of a magnet in the headset (no hook)
13:38.00yangjoat: I was just thinking about the weather forecast station, which would give me the information about local weather, over SIP ... they usually do that on commercial numbers here
13:38.28joatyang: that provu really has a lot of odd options...  looks like what'd you'd get if you tossed an x-10 camera, a grandsteam, and a video sender into a blender
13:38.47joatyang, i scrape the noaa feed for the local airport
13:39.07joatit's a horrible kluge but it works
13:39.41yangjoat: could you do a sip trunk for a test ?
13:39.42joats/grandsteam/grandstream/
13:41.35SwKI dont thing they have NOAA feed for Slovenia tho heh
13:41.54tootah the snom 820 is good? ain't heard a review yet - cool
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13:45.23yangtoot: I haven't done much testing on it yet
13:45.41yangtoot: but I like it's design
13:46.12yangtoot: However its a phone, that only a few could afford buying in my country
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13:46.40tootyeah - while i love snoms most of our clients are loving grandstream ata's atm :)
13:46.56yangtoot: Well my boss is all HOT on Grandstreams
13:47.09error404notfoundI get "[Dec 20 18:44:25] NOTICE[35543] chan_sip.c: Registration from '"User1" <sip:user1@192.168.20.41>' failed for '192.168.20.204' - Wrong password" what could be reason? password is correct, I have checked
13:47.12joatnoaa didn't have it but weather underground did
13:47.23joatcan scrape that
13:47.52joatthere appears to be an rss feed also (not sure how often that's updated though)
13:47.56gambler1yang: since your country is close to mine, can you tell me the price for snom 820 (if you know)
13:48.14yanggambler1: Around 400-450 I think
13:49.04gambler1yang: tnx, it's less expensive then I thought
13:49.25yanggambler1: you can have 12 extensions on it
13:49.37yangI doubt that you will need those
13:49.53tootalthough i am biased i loved the openvpn support in the snoms
13:50.20gambler1yang: well, I need one phone for testing, I have now 4 SPA942 on my desk..
13:50.36yangtoot: Its also a phone that has the OCS (M$) support
13:52.33tootthat would be bad for me business :)
13:52.35error404notfoundanyone?
13:53.09yangerror404notfound: maybe your password is in the wrong field, check also in your sip.conf if the passwords match
13:53.25error404notfoundyang: it does...
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13:53.36[TK]D-Fendererror404notfound: It isn't lying so whatever you this is right is either wrong, or not actually in effect
13:54.16dacsMorning all
13:55.14dacsgot 2 hrs to read and implement stuff before kido wakes up!
13:56.13error404notfoundpassword is correct :(
13:58.12yangerror404notfound: then its in the wrong field of your phone GUI
14:05.21error404notfoundI am checking using the snom's web ui...
14:05.26error404notfoundso there is no way..
14:06.26error404notfoundeven installed the unhide-passwords extension for firefox and re-re-verified
14:06.37gambler1I just take a look at user manual for one sip provider, and it seems that they recommend to reregister every 180 sec? Is there any recommended value for reregistration? For now, I only have seen a default of 3600 sec
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14:07.45[TK]D-Fendererror404notfound: You aren't showing us anything useful to help you with.
14:08.26error404notfound[TK]D-Fender: what can I show you? I told you the log message
14:08.33[TK]D-Fendergambler1: Normally shouldn't matter.  High frequency re-reg is for those with connection / NAT issues, etc
14:08.50[TK]D-Fendereoorboth sets fo configs, SIP debug of the failed attempts
14:09.05[TK]D-Fendererror404notfound: Both sets of configs, SIP debug of the failed attempts
14:09.22error404notfoundSIP debug?
14:09.51error404notfoundcan asterisk work with empty password?
14:09.55[TK]D-Fendererror404notfound: yes, that magical thing at CLI that sho0ws you the whole SIP packet as is sent & received @ *
14:10.02gambler1[TK]D-Fender: tnx
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14:10.18[TK]D-Fendererror404notfound: The rest of the world is able to configure their phones just fine.
14:14.33error404notfoundI totally changed my sip and extension conf file, reassign some extensions, changed passwords, do I need some extra step to make those conf active except restarting asterisks?
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14:17.44[TK]D-Fendererror404notfound: You don't need to completely restart * for SIP changes to take effect
14:18.08[TK]D-Fendererror404notfound: for whatever "reassign some extensions" means
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14:43.56fun330i want to set up a voip proxy for billing purposes would asterisk be the best way or should i think about freeswitch?
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14:58.27dacsguy anyone with much luck unlocking linksys PAP2 firm 3.1.9(LSc)
14:58.58dacsit keep asking for admin password when i try to tftp upgrade
15:03.38dacsanyone?
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15:16.56[TK]D-Fenderdacs: unlock PAP2 3.1.9
15:17.00[TK]D-Fenderdacs: JFGI
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16:09.51drmessanodacs: You're doing it wrong
16:10.07drmessanoI've unlocked dozens of 3.1.9 boxes
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16:10.26ice_crofthi guys
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16:11.44ice_croftFender, im gettin this on remote IAX2 peer while callin to it: http://pastebin.ca/1290212
16:11.55ice_crofthelp plz. context is correct
16:12.53ice_croftTK]D-Fender> peers and regs r correct too
16:13.51ice_croftTK]D-Fender> but the call cant make it even to it's dialplan context
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16:19.33ice_croftoh nevermind
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16:19.54ice_crofti found that iax2 peer context is always "default". damn
16:27.33eppigyhello
16:27.35eppigyi am dave
16:29.11ice_croftRejected connect attempt from xx.xx.xx.xx, requested/capability 0x4/0xe004 incompatible with our capability 0xe703.
16:29.19ice_croftwhat does it mean?
16:29.23ice_croftim stuck (
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16:47.43fiXXXerMetHi everyone.  After updating my centos box (yum update), asterisk is no longer working.  Trying to do a test with ekiga softphone, I can register my extension.  But when I try to place a call to another extension, I am getting   "Call from '5107' to extension '5001' rejected because extension not found."
16:49.06TrentCreekice_croft: seems like in compatable codec
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16:50.58fiXXXerMetIncomming calls (from the outside) seem to work
16:51.06fiXXXerMetBut outgoing does not
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16:53.13fiXXXerMetAny other information needed to help me figure this out?
16:56.02DovidfiXXXerMet: it is something in your dial plan that changed. Do you have trixbox or freepbx ?
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16:58.08fiXXXerMetDovid: Yes, trixbox (that was updated as well)
16:58.27Dovidthen you need to as in #trixbox
16:58.47fiXXXerMetThat place is useless :(
17:00.14jayteeit may be useless but it's the preferred support channel for useless derivatives of Asterisk
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17:13.33drmessano^Ouch
17:13.39drmessano^Yum update on a trixbox
17:13.44drmessano^Good luck with that
17:14.20drmessano^Thats the easiest way to absolutely bomb your box out
17:14.21jayteelinux+asterisk+updates=high probability of breakage
17:15.10jayteetrixbox+updates=guaranteed breakage
17:15.16eppigyhi probability of recompile
17:15.19eppigyYA FEEL ME
17:17.05drmessano^or complete reinstall
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17:20.11Daejeodoes any have an experience of using a  bluetooth device(cellphone) as FXO or FXS channel?
17:21.24Daejeocan any recommend a bluetooth adapter for using with asterisk ?
17:21.47gambler1hmmm I have updated centos and * many times and still have no luck of breakage :)
17:22.54jayteegambler1, when you updated centos were there kernel updates? did you have to do a recompile? because most of us do when there's a kernel update or major dependency updates.
17:23.34jayteebut once you update and recompile * is usually good to go because updates won't break your dialplan in asterisk like they seem to all too often in trixbox
17:25.07gambler1jaytee: hmmmmm no, I have updated linux boxes with and without kernel updates and still have no problems with * (1.4 and 1.6)
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17:25.38jayteegambler1, using zaptel or dahdi?
17:25.59gambler1jaytee: but, it does not mean that there will be no problems in the future or that I was lucky enough...
17:26.15gambler1jaytee: no.. neither of them
17:26.29drmessano^The issue with trixbox is not the CentOS updates
17:27.02jayteethere ya go. if  you run a hybrid pbx that uses PRI or analog as well as SIP or uses ztdummy or dahdi_dummy for timing for MeetMe then a kernel update will break it.
17:27.06drmessano^Its the updates pulled from the Fonality repos, like new Asterisk RPMs that are missing config files, overwrite config files, etc
17:27.12drmessano^Nothing to do with the OS itself
17:27.23jayteedrmessano^, no, it's the crap from Trixbox that overwrites it's own configs
17:27.58esaymI have a question with priority jumping.  I have this setup: http://pastebin.com/m4700452b  I am using lookupblacklist to block calls.  If a number is in the database, lookupblacklist will jump to prio 102.  But also if the line is busy, doesn't voicemail jump to prio 102?  How do I change that so they don't conflict?
17:28.02jayteebecause it's too stupid to go, "oh! a preexisting install! I should backup the config and then restore it when I'm done updating"
17:28.03uyhfdkjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj
17:28.19jayteenkkkkjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj
17:28.27drmessano^Thats what I said
17:28.34eppigythats what she said
17:28.42jayteedrmessano^, yes, that's what you said
17:28.54jayteeand I was agreeing with you
17:28.59gambler1esaym: use gotoif instead
17:29.44drmessanoI was confused by the "no" bit.. I was expecting a counter of what I said from there on.  Interesting tactic.. I will have to remember that..
17:30.28drmessanoKinda like when you get into a fight with someone.. what is the first thing you should do?
17:30.30jayteedrmessano, sorry my english not so good! :-)
17:30.34drmessanoPunch yourself in the face..
17:30.49gambler1:))))
17:30.55drmessanoBecause then the dude is thinking "Shit, if hes gonna do that to himself, WTF is he gonna do to me???"
17:30.55esaymgambler1: hmm never heard of that, ty, I will look into it
17:31.41drmessanoSlamming your face on a nearby object would have the same effect
17:31.46jayteeesaym, might want to look at using gotoif and labeled priorities to get away from priority jumping. IIRC it's getting "phased out" of asterisk.
17:32.18drmessano"CRAZY?? CRAZY??  NOBODY HERE IS CRAZY, FRED FLINTSTONE BARNEY RUBBLE BOWOOOOBAH"
17:32.44gambler1esaym: take a look at http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf
17:33.33jayteewow! there's a book on Asterisk????? who knew!!!!
17:33.46jaytee~book
17:33.47jbotfrom memory, book is probably Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF at http://www.asteriskdocs.org --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com or see ~buybook
17:34.29drmessanoIm gonna get my name legally changed to Z4QQQ Batman Symbol
17:34.38jayteelol
17:34.42Dovidhaha
17:34.44gambler1jaytee: ok, ok... I am the newcomer here...
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17:35.17Z4QQQ_Batman_SymHmmm
17:35.18jayteeI got a Merry Yule "Cthulu" card today from a friend. "Have a Merry Yule or Cthulu will eat you!"
17:35.31jayteealmost as good as a FSM card :-)
17:38.07jayteelooks like we'll need to post a RFC for a new Extended ASCII set that includes the Batman symbol. Or at least a new font like Wingdings but better
17:38.41eppigytrue
17:38.57drmessanoWell, I think its damn stupid that the batman symbol can't be used in an Asterisk dialplan
17:40.11drmessanoI should write a patch giving Batman() the same function as Hangup()
17:40.35ScribbleJOh boy.
17:41.32drmessanoAnswer, do stuff, do stuff, do stuff, BATMAN
17:42.17jayteeLOL
17:43.02x86exten => s,1,Answer() exten => s,2,??? exten => s,3,Profit()
17:43.18drmessanoFTW
17:43.25drmessanoNow that, is win
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17:43.31x86yay :)
17:43.38x86took me long enough to get a win :P
17:44.02x86err, where's my karma increment? hehe
17:44.25drmessanoYou just moved from -75 to -73
17:44.27drmessanoSo YAY
17:44.59drmessanoIt could be worse
17:45.01jayteewait! you forgot the really important one! exten => s,1,Answer(), exten => s,2,DoSomethingCool(), exten => s,3,DoubleBill(), exten => s,4,Batman()
17:45.24drmessano[TK]D-Fender's karma is so low, I have to wrap his in an electric blanket to keep it from freezing
17:45.25jaytee~karma jaytee
17:45.25jbotjaytee has neutral karma
17:45.45drmessano~karma drmessano
17:45.45jbotdrmessano has karma of 1
17:45.51jayteewhat? after all the time I've spent in here giving out bad advice I'm still neutral?
17:45.55drmessanoHow the hell did that happen?
17:46.20interfaithquesthello telco joe , can an ATA device transfer a call via asterisk ? using features.conf
17:46.21x86~karma x86
17:46.21jbotx86 has karma of -2
17:46.22jaytee~karma [TK]D-Fender
17:46.22jbot[tk]d-fender has karma of 10
17:46.28x86jbot--
17:46.29drmessanoEither you suck and lost 1 from the default of 1, or someone screwed up and gave me 1
17:46.57drmessano~karma gambler1
17:46.57jbotgambler1 has neutral karma
17:46.59jayteeno more botsnacks for jbot from this guy
17:47.02drmessanoHA
17:47.06drmessanoDefault is neutral
17:47.10drmessanoSomeone GAVE me a 1
17:47.19drmessanoWhat sort of dumba...
17:47.40jayteeI don't even know how to "give" karma
17:47.51drmessano~addkarma jaytee
17:47.57drmessano~givekarma jaytee
17:48.03drmessano~karma +1 jaytee
17:48.03jbot+1 jaytee has neutral karma
17:48.07drmessanoLOL
17:48.13drmessano~karma jaytee +1
17:48.13jbotjaytee +1 has neutral karma
17:48.21drmessano~karma drmessano3000
17:48.21jbotdrmessano3000 has neutral karma
17:48.36jayteemaybe only ops can give karma
17:48.51jaytee~karma
17:48.51jbotjaytee has neutral karma
17:49.06jayteejbot karma
17:49.06jbotjaytee has neutral karma
17:49.10jayteejeez
17:49.23jaytee~help karma
17:49.33d00gstergents how do I fix asterisk time?
17:49.59jayteejbot> Karma is a community rating system.  Use "X++" to increase the karma, or "X--" to decrease it.  Ask for ratings using "karma for X?"
17:49.59jbotis a community rating system.  use "x++" to increase the karma, or "x--" to decrease it.  ask for ratings using "karma for x?" has neutral karma
17:50.19jaytee~karma drmessano X++
17:50.19jbotdrmessano x++ has neutral karma
17:50.25eppigylol
17:50.58jaytee~karma drmessano++
17:50.58jbotdrmessano++ has neutral karma
17:51.03jayteewtf
17:51.11russellbjbot: jaytee++
17:51.13gambler1so... if veryone is in the mood can I ask one question, that I can'f find a good answer?
17:51.25drmessano~x++ jaytee
17:51.28russellbjbot: karma for jaytee ?
17:51.28jbotfor jaytee ? has neutral karma
17:51.32russellbjbot: karma for jaytee
17:51.32jbotfor jaytee has neutral karma
17:51.32jaytee~karma jaytee
17:51.32jbotjaytee has karma of 1
17:51.36russellbthere.
17:51.37gambler1not veryone but everyone
17:51.49jayteeah, I see now
17:51.51eppigygambler1: out with it bro
17:51.51drmessano~x++ jaytee
17:51.54jayteethanks russellb
17:51.57russellbnp
17:52.01drmessano~karma jaytee
17:52.01jbotjaytee has karma of 1
17:52.18jayteejbot: drmessano++
17:52.21russellb~karma russellb
17:52.21jbotrussellb has neutral karma
17:52.26russellb~karma drumkilla
17:52.26jbotdrumkilla has karma of 8
17:52.29russellbooh
17:52.41gambler1How the hell I can get a list of active (registered users) when I use dynamic realtime?
17:52.43jayteethey should be the same
17:53.17russellbgambler1: query your database i guess
17:53.46jayteerussell should have a karma of at least 50 since he actually creates new apps and functions and fixes broken ones.
17:53.58gambler1russellb: I know you are a great dev but that not possible if the user does not say bye... :(
17:54.31russellbwhat do you mean by "say bye" ?
17:54.31gambler1and using sip timers does not update the db as I was expected...
17:54.44russellbyou were asking about registration status, right?
17:54.58jayteebbiab, gotta run an errand
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17:55.15gambler1say.. I have ext 100 and register on my * box, then my adsl connection goes down.. how * knows that I am not online anymore?
17:55.33russellbyour registration will time out
17:55.42eppigyin 3600 seconds it will
17:55.56gambler1yes... but thats not online users page anymore...
17:56.11eppigylower re-register time
17:56.26eppigyto a margin of error you are comfortable with
17:57.29gambler1thats the option but I was expecting sip timers would do that, because I can't afford to call XXXX clients to change the sip settings...
18:00.49gambler1eh, sorry if I am hmmmm a "worst kind of user"... still tnx for your time :)
18:01.44russellbisn't there an option in sip.conf to force a minimum registration time?
18:02.08eppigygambler1: select * from agent_table where fullcontact = 'NULL'
18:02.48gambler1russellb: not that I am awareoff, but since you say it must be there.. thank you.
18:03.05russellbwell, i may be crazy, i can't remember everything that's there ...
18:03.12russellbbut it sounds familiar
18:03.16russellbi may be thinking of something else
18:03.24gambler1eppigy: yes, thats the query we are using
18:03.24eppigyheard it in a dream
18:03.40eppigywell whats the deal dog
18:03.46eppigymaybe i am not understanding you
18:03.51gambler1:)))))) I will take a look
18:03.55eppigyYEAH SON
18:04.54gambler1eppigy: maybe, but still if the minimum registration time exist in sip.conf and is used to force clients to reregister then... there is np at all :)
18:05.06eppigyawesome
18:05.35russellbmaxexpiry=3600                 ; Maximum allowed time of incoming registrations
18:05.35russellb<PROTECTED>
18:05.49eppigymaxexpirey=3600
18:05.49eppigydefaultexpirey=3600
18:05.53eppigyyou bastard
18:05.58russellbi found it first, i win :-p
18:06.25eppigy8[]
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18:06.36russellbi hate this client, ugh
18:07.46eppigywhat are you using?
18:07.58d00gstergents how do I fix asterisk time?
18:07.59gambler1russellb: I was just looking at that at the same time :D ok, since you are the winner, all the money goes to your bank account :)
18:08.09russellbyay
18:08.21russellbd00gster: asterisk doesn't have time, it uses the system time.
18:08.23eppigyd00gster: ntpd
18:08.26eppigyBOOYA
18:08.34d00gstermy system time is correct
18:08.45d00gsterI'll check again
18:08.49russellbthen your time zone configuration is probably wrong
18:08.56gambler1d00gster: problem with time in cdr ?
18:09.03d00gstervoicemail
18:09.14russellbsee timezone configuraiton in voicemail.conf
18:09.52drmessanoHappyClownPBX doesn't use timezones.. it's all based on Phangal Coordinated Time
18:10.09eppigyit just got real
18:10.24drmessanoSpeaking of which, it's almost 15Z65.. I have like 25F before I need to go to the store
18:10.53drmessanoO.o
18:11.01eppigyapproximately 14kg away?
18:11.11drmessanoAsterisk handles PCT just fine, btw
18:11.31drmessano~HappyClownPBX
18:11.31jbot[HappyClownPBX] is currently in closed beta, approaching 12GB in size, uses Asterisk for it's core, it pwns, is also now compatible with the Diahatsumashiniriki Keyotason 200LP-A11 SIP phone
18:12.14d00gsterrussellb, can you give me an example of how voicemail.conf sets time?
18:12.38russellbd00gster: did you look at the sample config?
18:13.29russellbI'm not here to hand hold :)
18:13.32eppigy; tz=central            ; Timezone from zonemessages above.  Irrelevant if envelope=no.
18:13.33d00gsterfound one online. unfortunately I started off with freepbx so it's not standard
18:14.19russellbyou can check the book, or check configs/voicemail.conf.sample in the asterisk source tree.
18:15.26gambler1after first question, I feel a little (more than little) stupid, so anyone can help me for one more bug in * I guess?
18:16.02eppigybe careful calling it a bug
18:16.12eppigyrussellb will come to where you sleep
18:16.36gambler1with the gun? :)))
18:16.37russellbthere are no bugs in asterisk.
18:16.48russellbshuts down apache on bugs.digium.com
18:17.26gambler1hehehehe to late... codefreeze yesterday told me to check a newer version of * :))))
18:18.18codefreeze-lapgambler1: find anything interesting?
18:18.38gambler1never the less (i still do not know exact meaning of this sentence, as you might note that I am not native english speaker)
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18:19.14gambler1codefreeze-lap: nope, but I did found that it happens only when the call is unanswered
18:19.39drmessanoNo bugs, just undocumented features
18:19.53gambler1codefreeze-lap: I tried and 1.6.0.3-rc1
18:19.54codefreeze-lapgambler1: now that is interesting.. I've been playing with disposition problems
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18:20.17Daejeodoes any have an experience of using a  bluetooth device(cellphone) as FXO or FXS channel?
18:20.26codefreeze-lapgambler1: just for fun, did you try 1.6.1 from svn?
18:20.36Daejeocan any recommend a bluetooth adapter for using with asterisk ?
18:21.04drmessanoDaejeo: The $5 ones work
18:21.20drmessanoEDR's
18:21.28drmessanoWell, sort of
18:21.37drmessanoSeems Bluetooth isn't working here right now
18:21.42gambler1codefreeze-lap: no, I didnt try 1.6.1, I will take that tonight on one of test servers
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18:22.33Daejeodrmessano: any brand name?
18:22.43drmessanoNo, no brand name
18:22.49drmessanoGoogle for EDR Bluetooth
18:23.06drmessanoYou can get them on ebay
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18:25.53codefreeze-lapgambler1: I have 7 bugs assigned to me with "answered" in the summary... some have patches attached, ready for testing; you might look thru the list and see if any of my patches might help/solve the problem.
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18:30.21gambler1codefreeze-lap: I will take a look now, tnx for your support. I will let you know (if you want) if any of those solved the problem
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18:38.59gambler1codefreeze-lap: assigned to? I cant find you on the list? Doing something wrong?
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18:43.06codefreeze-lapgambler1: I'm murf on the bug tracker; sorry...
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19:32.59XnOSXhello friends
19:33.09XnOSXi have a problem with my asterisk
19:33.19XnOSXi have a asterisk with 2 pri lines
19:33.31XnOSXbut i have these ports down
19:33.47XnOSXcentral*CLI> zap show status  Description                              Alarms     IRQ        bpviol     CRC4       T2XXP (PCI) Card 0 Span 1                RED        0          0          0          T2XXP (PCI) Card 0 Span 2                RED        0          0          0
19:34.24DovidXnOSX: Check ur configs and that the cables r in the correctly
19:34.46XnOSXi was check these and all its ok
19:35.11XnOSXthe config is the conf that i always use in this server
19:35.12Dovidwut do u get for zttool ?
19:35.20Dovidthen call ur telco company
19:35.44Dovidit happend all of a sudden ?
19:35.45XnOSXDovid: my Telco Telefon is BT
19:36.07Dovidso ask them what they see
19:36.10XnOSXin the zttool have alarm in RED
19:36.36Dovidred alarm is either config or bad cable or it isnt plugged in
19:37.18XnOSXDovid can i up or reset the spans?
19:37.25XnOSXtake a look
19:37.26XnOSXcentral*CLI> pri show spans PRI span 1/0: Provisioned, In Alarm, Down, Active PRI span 2/0: Provisioned, In Alarm, Down, Active
19:38.15XnOSXwhen i make pri show spans asterisk say Provisioned, In Alarm, Down, Active
19:38.42XnOSXits posible that the BT primary are down connect?
19:39.22Dovidit can be. u need to ask them
19:39.29XnOSXsorry my abglis is not so good
19:39.41XnOSXummm ok
19:40.12XnOSXDovid: know you something for make test to a pri card or ports?
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19:43.27XnOSXDovid: if i have other PRI line from other telco company can i change the PRI cable in the card and restart zaptel and asterisk and this would take positive effect isnt it?
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19:59.41BezNalogovHello people. Can somebody tell me if there is a solution to implement a fax2mail application on asterisk 1.4.22? I found many examples on internet, but none of them seems to work. Is this goal possible with asterfax or is that only for mail2fax?
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20:05.33XnOSXi have a question: how i can to know if the digium pri card its OK?
20:07.45DovidXnOSX: create a loop back
20:08.47DovidXnOSX: http://kb.digium.com/?View=entry&EntryID=95
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20:50.09d00gsterwhat's the most stable version of *
20:51.10Dovid1.6.X
20:52.23jezierhi.. I have problem with chan_mobile + samsung sgh-x820.... incoming calls works... but not outgoing...
20:52.56jezierit looks like my phone doesn't understand ATD... but hangup AT+CHUP works...
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21:49.18gambler1codefreeze-lap: sorry for the wrong info about the cdr. It happens to all calls not only unanswered. I overlooked master.csv :(
21:49.35root52Hey everybody. Anyone have any priceing or suggestions for wholesale SIP termination?
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22:00.24jeffhrm. when using callfiles, i will get:
22:00.25jeffAuto fallthrough, channel 'OutgoingSpoolFailed' status is 'UNKNOWN'
22:00.25jeff[Dec 20 16:58:26] NOTICE[8421]: pbx_spool.c:355 attempt_thread: Call failed to go through, reason (3) Remote end Ringing
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22:00.37jeffhow can i log that reason?
22:00.52jeffit shows up on the console, but only after the failed extension fires off.
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23:57.03conathanGreetings.  I am having some problems configuring asterisk 1.4.21 to receive incoming calls from les.net
23:57.21conathan<PROTECTED>
23:57.42glazconathan: in sip.conf , which context did you put your incoming calls?
23:57.42conathanexten => s,            1,DIAL(SIP/conathan&SIP/PAP2_1_L1,45,r)
23:57.46conathandefault
23:57.57glazyou shouldnt use default for incoming calls
23:58.01conathanalso tried incoming back when I was trying to make it more complicated
23:58.44glazpaste your extensions.conf and sip.conf to rafb.net/paste
23:58.51glazhide the username and passwords if any
23:59.15conathanok, one min

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