IRC log for #asterisk on 20081126

00:00.09jaytee<etfonhomey> jaytee, 1.39 cents / minute
00:01.05jayteeif you're talking .139 a minute then that's a whole different ball game and cost effective but you f'd up on the decimal point. Hope you don't work as an accountant :-)
00:02.35etfonhomeyjaytee, maybe I'm missing something here.  1.39 cents / minute = $0.0139 / minute right?
00:03.02etfonhomey$0.0139 * 10 (for a 10 minute call) = $0.139, right
00:03.19etfonhomey$0.139 is most certainly not 1/3rd of $44, right?
00:03.22jayteeetfonhomey, hey, you typed 1.39/minute to begin with. that's where all this confusion started.
00:03.43etfonhomeyActually, I typed 1.39 cents / minute
00:03.45seanbrightjbot, .0139 * 10
00:03.46jbot0.139
00:03.50seanbrightok, good.
00:03.53seanbrightmath checks out
00:04.32etfonhomeyHey, didn't know jbot was a calculator, too!
00:04.38seanbrighthe's versatile
00:04.46jayteeetfonhomey, well thanks I'll check out vitelity's website and see
00:05.16etfonhomeyjaytee, if I were to give you a "con" for Vitelity it's that if you need immediate response to a help ticket, they charge a fee.
00:05.18jayteejbot is smarter than most humans I've met
00:05.32Carlos_PHXAnd certainly more likeable.
00:06.15*** join/#asterisk Akiyuki (n=jimi@rrcs-70-63-90-226.midsouth.biz.rr.com)
00:06.44Carlos_PHXROFL, way to give a noob a complex.
00:06.55jayteewas that aimed at me? or the noob?
00:07.01etfonhomey[TK]D-Fender, welcome back, you missed a good one while you were gone.
00:08.15etfonhomeyjaytee, I'm talking about aep
00:09.41Akiyukihaha
00:09.59AkiyukiCarlos_PHX: Check your PM
00:10.05AkiyukiReady to set up an account, possibly
00:12.12etfonhomeyjaytee, I forgot to mention the 1.39 CENTS / minute was outbound calling rate.
00:13.03etfonhomeyjaytee, inbound is 1.1 CENTS / minute.
00:17.35etfonhomeyjaytee, Just looked at the advertised rates and they are a little higher.  Guess they raised them since I signed up.
00:18.39jayteeetfonhomey, just to get this straight. that's one dollar and thirty nine center PER MINUTE?
00:19.17etfonhomeyjaytee, no that would be 139 CENTS / minute  (see, no decimal point)
00:20.26etfonhomeyjaytee, from now on, I'll give it to you in dollars.  $0.0139 / minute outgoing and $0.011 / minute incoming   $1.49 / month / DID
00:21.47jayteeetfonhomey, I think I'll just read vitelity's page, thanks
00:22.18jayteebut I get it now
00:22.54jaytee1.39 CENTS
00:23.15seanbrightjbot, stab them
00:23.15jbotACTION runs at them with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut.
00:26.16etfonhomeyjaytee, I just tried some more math.  It looks like for $44 at Vitelity / month, you could get 1 DID and make 3,058 minutes of outgoing calls and I believe it's free long distance in the continental US.
00:26.20etfonhomeyDinner time.
00:27.20aepi cant get the sip client connect, it always says timeout ;/
00:27.40aepany idea how to test a udp connection?  telnet obviously doesnt work
00:28.08[netman]nc (netcat) -u
00:28.16etfonhomeytelnet = tcp
00:29.09aepetfonhomey: that was my point
00:29.13aep[netman]: oh cool thanks
00:29.33[netman]you are welcome
00:29.34*** part/#asterisk E-bola (i=psybnc@ip181.rev112.brygge.net)
00:29.35etfonhomeyaep, you know you tried it.  admit it.
00:30.33aepit does something
00:30.42aepanything i could type to expect a response?
00:31.54aeperm i have the bad feeling that this "black box" router from my ISP simply doesnt support udp
00:33.33seanbrightdoesn't support UDP?
00:33.57seanbrighti find that hard to believe
00:34.08aepend users dont need udp
00:34.17aepmodern routers even proxy your http and smtp
00:34.31aepbecouse end users love it...
00:34.35jqlhrm... a world without udp
00:34.44aepanyway i just transfered data via udp and netcat
00:34.48aepso that isnt the problem
00:34.48jqlno WoW... no traceroute
00:34.53jqlmy world would be bereft
00:35.13aepwow needs udp?  great
00:35.19aepthen they wont shut that down :D
00:35.35jaytee~itsplist-us
00:35.36jbot[~itsplist-us] Here are some popular ITSPs (USA) starting with the more respected ones : http://www.teliax.com , http://connect.voicepulse.com , http://www.nufone.net , http://www.broadvoice.com, http://www.jnctn.com , http://www.bandwidth.com , http://vitelity.net
00:36.15aepi can type whatever i want,  asterisk won't respond
00:36.21aeptryes from localhost
00:36.37aepnope
00:36.51aepnc -u  localhost 5060
00:36.56aepnothing i type does anything
00:37.05aep(yes i pressed enter...)
00:38.10aepudp        0      0 sophia:32824 sophia:sip ESTABLISHED
00:38.15aepso not a connection problem
00:38.35[netman]1) netman@apolo:~$ nc -l -u -p 1111
00:38.52[netman]2) netman@apolo:~$ nc -u localhost 1111
00:39.02[netman]3) hey
00:39.16[netman]and u should see "hey" on the window 1)
00:39.16aepthat prints hey for me on the other one
00:39.18aepyes
00:39.21aepi tryed that
00:39.25aepeverything fine with the connection
00:39.36aepworks the other way round as well
00:40.08aephowever doing the same on port 5060 where asterisk is, does nothing
00:40.15aepno log entry, nothing on the cli
00:40.26[netman]and sip debug?
00:41.04*** join/#asterisk loather-work (n=khudson@69.43.168.134)
00:41.20aepi'f  i'msending random crap into the port, asterisk cpu usage goes up
00:41.20[netman]maybe u should try something like traceroute o ngrep to find out what is wrong on 5060 port
00:41.35loather-workok, i'm out of channels on my PRI, but i also have a SIP provider. Is there an easy way to have asterisk try dialling on the PRI first, then dial via the sip provider when all the PRI channels are full?
00:41.53aep<--- SIP read from 127.0.0.1:32825 --->
00:41.53aepHI!
00:42.10*** join/#asterisk jer (n=jer@unaffiliated/jer)
00:42.28jayteeloather-work, yep, test for chanuavail when the Dial fails on the PRI and then redial out the SIP trunk
00:42.52aep[Nov 25 17:48:18] WARNING[16021]: chan_sip.c:6830 determine_firstline_parts: Bad request protocol SIP/2.0/UDP 192.168.3.250:5060; branch=1
00:43.03aepi guess i dont understand SIP :D
00:43.07aepgoing to try a real client
00:43.30jayteeaep, order a copy of SIP Demystified from Amazon
00:43.49seanbrightthat assumes he wants to understand SIP :)
00:43.51*** join/#asterisk ElCheapo (n=elcheapo@d137-186-181-17.abhsia.telus.net)
00:43.52loather-workjaytee: what woudl the config for that look like? http://pastebin.ca/1267111 is my dialout macro
00:45.33aepokay, i think that client is just crap
00:45.39seanbrightwhat client?
00:45.42aepxlite
00:45.46seanbrightit's not
00:45.57seanbrightwe use eyeBeam at work with asterisk and it works fine
00:45.57aepdebug sip clearly shows it is sending SIP/2.0 401 Unauthorized
00:46.03seanbrighteyeBeam is xlite but not free
00:46.10aephowever xlite sayd the connection timed out
00:46.19aepi just misstyped the password
00:46.21aepretarded...
00:46.28aepthanks
00:46.30seanbrightso it's working now?
00:46.31seanbrightgood.
00:46.36aepno
00:46.47aepbut...  i have a debug
00:46.50aepthats awesome
00:47.16seanbrighti'm confused.  but you don't seem to be asking for assistance so i will wander off.
00:48.25aepyeah well i need to check what i did wrong
00:48.33*** join/#asterisk ming_zym (n=ming_zym@nat/yahoo/x-498931fc3f8ac7fa)
00:48.44aepit says unauthorized, but aprantly i DIDNT type the password wrong
00:49.29seanbrightare you still using the sip.conf you pastebin'd?
00:49.50seanbrightbecause there was no secret (password) specified there
00:49.59aepyep
00:50.04aepi did remove that from the paste
00:50.07aepas well as the realm
00:50.11seanbrightgotcha
00:50.35aepthe client uses aep@servername.domain.tld
00:50.40*** join/#asterisk etfonhomey (n=chatzill@74-143-196-254.static.insightbb.com)
00:50.42aepit should use aep@doman.tld :(
00:51.53jayteeloather-work, try something like this in your dial macro between the first dial statement and the second. it needs a labeled priority to go to called unavail so you'd have to add the label to the priority of the Dial statement for your SIP trunk.
00:51.56jayteeexten => s,n,GotoIf($["${DIALSTATUS}" = "CHANUNAVAIL"]?UNAVAIL)
00:52.05aepnow it does, yey
00:52.18aepnow it's a SIP/2.0 401 Unauthorized
00:53.46*** join/#asterisk velts (n=velts@van-fw.blastradius.com)
00:54.18*** join/#asterisk ZaVoid (n=zavoid@nj-76-6-39-193.dhcp.embarqhsd.net)
00:54.24veltsif i have an asterisk server can i get rid of my landline?
00:54.31etfonhomeyaep, I've been away.  Where are you at in getting your * up now?
00:54.45etfonhomeyvelts, if you trust your Internet connection to always be on.
00:54.54aeptrying to dial into sip using xlite
00:54.56etfonhomeyvelts, and if you sign up with an ITSP
00:54.57veltshmm
00:55.02aepi get a 401 unauthorizes
00:55.10etfonhomeyaep, what's your sip.conf look like?
00:55.37veltsan ITSP like vonage?
00:55.56aephttp://rafb.net/p/ftv3yN48.html
00:56.06*** join/#asterisk CunningPike (n=arodgers@S010600095b33697f.vc.shawcable.net)
00:56.06etfonhomeyvelts, or Vitelity.  Ask jaytee about pricing!  Just kidding jaytee. :)
00:56.36veltsoh so even with asterisk i still need to pay for a land phone
00:56.43aepmaybe its a problem that the host isnt called domain.tld but host.domain.tld?
00:56.57loather-workjaytee: and then the second Dial() line becomes exten => s-UNAVAIL,3,Dial(...) right?
00:57.55etfonhomeyaep, under [aep], do "canreinvite=no"
00:58.33aepok
00:58.37etfonhomeyaep, also under [aep], remove the secret line.
00:59.23aepok
00:59.32aeptrying with no password then
00:59.43veltsetfonhomey, if you didnt want to recieve incoming calls, just make outgoing would you still need to register with an ITSP?
00:59.59aepasterisk says 200 OK  and xlite says  "connection timed out"
01:00.06etfonhomeyaep, Then, in xlite, in the SIP Properties, do this:   Display Name:   aep      User name:  aep   Auth. user name:  aep  Domain:  (your * server IP)
01:00.14aepyep did that
01:00.44aepthere is also:
01:00.45aepScheduling destruction of SIP dialog '616887F272DC1AF1B206BAE0D8C93253@asgaartech.com' in 32000 ms (Method: REGISTER)
01:00.50etfonhomeyaep, Check "register with domain and receive incoming calls"  then select "domain" under "send outbound via"
01:00.54aepright after it says 200 OK
01:01.28etfonhomeyaep, that's how my xlite is setup  currently and it works.  Once you have that, if it still doesn't work, let's do some work on your sip.conf
01:02.03aepi dont find the last options you names
01:03.20*** part/#asterisk UnixDawg (n=UnixDawg@cpe-98-28-149-231.cinci.res.rr.com)
01:03.34etfonhomeyaep, see the sub area of the SIP Properties box that says:  "Domain Proxy" ?
01:04.02aepthere is Domain/Realm  and SIP Proxy
01:04.47etfonhomeyaep, go to Help -> About in X-Lite and tell me your version and build #.
01:04.54etfonhomeyaep, yours may be newer than mine.
01:05.26aephelp redirects to a website
01:05.30aepbut its a fresh download
01:05.59etfonhomeyaep, are you on a linux box or Mac?
01:06.05aepanyway do you think those options have any effect?
01:06.06aeplinux
01:06.57*** join/#asterisk stencil_ (i=asr33@unaffiliated/stencil)
01:07.10etfonhomeyaep, ah, I have the Windows version.  Do you have the option to check "Register with domain" ?
01:07.30aepRegister:
01:07.48aepwhich i guess just means if it tryes registration at startup
01:07.57Akiyukiheh
01:08.08*** part/#asterisk stencil_ (i=asr33@unaffiliated/stencil)
01:08.12AkiyukiI just hooked NES nintendo up to my 50 inch tv and put on mario brothers
01:08.17Akiyukimy little boy is having a blast
01:09.12*** join/#asterisk TOrrIeri (n=torrieri@nelug/crew/torrieri)
01:09.31etfonhomeyaep, OK.  Is this a correct screenshot of what you're seeing?  http://linux.softpedia.com/progScreenshots/X-Lite-Screenshot-5595.html
01:10.17aepyeah
01:10.20*** join/#asterisk Schmee (n=zaphod@ppp100-124.static.internode.on.net)
01:10.46etfonhomeyaep, OK.  Here we go.  Enabled: Yes
01:11.15aepyeah did that
01:11.59etfonhomeyaep, Display Name:  aep   Username: aep  Authorization User: aep    Password: (blank)  Domain/Realm: (* IP address)
01:12.20etfonhomeyaep, SIP Proxy: (blank) Out Bound Proxy: (blank)
01:12.38aepok i can try ther ip adress
01:12.39etfonhomeyaep, what are you choices under the "Use Outbound Proxy"
01:13.08aepDefault Always Never
01:13.24*** join/#asterisk Stressor69 (n=joea@wsip-70-167-2-66.sd.sd.cox.net)
01:13.36etfonhomeysame options for "Register" ?
01:13.55*** join/#asterisk jeffspeff (i=Administ@c-98-240-113-191.hsd1.ky.comcast.net)
01:14.00aepyep
01:14.54etfonhomeyaep, Register: Always    Use Outbound Proxy: Never
01:15.12etfonhomeyaep Send Internal IP: Always
01:15.26etfonhomeyaep, that should do it.
01:16.02Stressor69anyone familiar w/ 7970 phones?
01:16.38aepok trying
01:16.50*** join/#asterisk Kumbang (n=unknown@125.163.83.153)
01:17.22etfonhomeyaep, any luck?
01:17.42aepthe client doesnt save the settings
01:17.51aepi'm trying manual hacking
01:18.37aepnow i'm having no debug output at all
01:19.00etfonhomeyaep, I don't have a linux box with X handy.  Got a windows box handy?
01:19.08aepyep
01:19.21aepshould i download the windows version?
01:19.28etfonhomeyaep, download X-Lite onto it and I'll be able to give you the exact settings that I know work.
01:19.36aepok going to
01:21.32etfonhomeyvelts, you still here?
01:23.34aepthe windows client says 408 request timed out
01:23.42aepcannot see debug output on the server
01:23.48aepit didnt try to connect
01:25.10etfonhomeyaep. gonna pastebin the settings you should have, given your sip.conf
01:25.54aepah now it tryed
01:26.04aep404 Unauthorized again
01:26.07aeperr 401
01:26.16aeppropably becouse the realm is wrong
01:26.25etfonhomeyaep, take the realm out of your sip.conf
01:26.31aepok
01:27.46Stressor69I have a quick question on my asterisk install regarding the "Dial" button on my 7970 phone. When I dial a number and press the "Dial" button it says "No active call to put on hold." If I press "New Call" to get a dial tone first there is no problems.
01:27.46etfonhomeyaep, http://www.pastebin.ca/1267133
01:28.31aepyes thats my setup
01:28.41etfonhomeyaep, OK.  Then the issue is with your * box.
01:28.58etfonhomeyaep, have you done a "sip reload" via the * CLI since we made changes to sip.conf ?
01:29.08aepyep
01:29.19aepbtw it says SIP/2.0 200 OK
01:29.19aep<PROTECTED>
01:29.26etfonhomeyaep, OK.  pastebin your current sip.conf
01:29.28aepbut the client wont connect anyway
01:29.45aepit drops the connection right away saying:
01:29.55aepScheduling destruction of SIP dialog 'M2E4NTI3ZjZkYTk3NjZkMzg0ZTJmYmUwNDkyOWNjNjY.' in 32000 ms (Method: REGISTER)
01:30.12etfonhomeyaep, pastebin your sip.conf
01:30.32aephttp://rafb.net/p/x8RM2m97.html
01:30.35etfonhomeyaep, do you have a firewall on your linux box?
01:30.40aepyes
01:30.44aepbut port 5060 is open
01:30.51aepand tested to work perfectly fine
01:31.32etfonhomeyaep, turn it off anyway.  Less variables to deal with.
01:31.39*** join/#asterisk ZaVoid (n=zavoid@nj-76-6-39-193.dhcp.embarqhsd.net)
01:31.40aepok
01:31.57aeperr wait. something is broken here
01:31.59aep--- Transmitting (no NAT) to 192.168.2.21:56160 --
01:32.11aepthats the local ip of my box
01:32.15aepi AM behind a nat
01:33.13aepso this answer will go straight to hell instead to my local box
01:33.44etfonhomeyaep, what's your network topology?
01:34.33aepusual home internet
01:34.39aepwindows box     192.168.2.21  ->  NAT  ->  internet
01:34.50etfonhomeyaep, I don't see * in that topology.
01:34.53aepthe machine running SIP has a public internet adress
01:35.47etfonhomeyaep, so 192.168.2.21 -> NAT -> Internet -> * Box  ???
01:36.20aepyeah
01:36.30etfonhomeyaep, or is it 192.168.2.21 -> NAT -> Internet -> NAT -> * Box ???
01:36.44aepno
01:37.04etfonhomeyaep, ok add nat=yes to your sip.conf under [aep]
01:37.23etfonhomeyaep and qualify=yes
01:37.24AkiyukiIs gtk+-2.0 mandatory for asterisk install from source?
01:37.35etfonhomeyIsn't that a graphics library?
01:37.50*** join/#asterisk zackz (n=zack@rrcs-24-123-106-250.central.biz.rr.com)
01:37.57AkiyukiYes, but the config is complaining it can't find it
01:37.58mostyyes it's a gui library, and no it's not mandatory
01:38.06aepetfonhomey: connected!!
01:38.19etfonhomeyNow, do you have audio?
01:38.21etfonhomey:)
01:38.45aepdunno if i press the green button it does a sound
01:38.51aepbut no clue what else to try
01:38.54zackzso...my 1.4.22 doesn't have chan_zap, why would this be?
01:39.10etfonhomeyzackz, dahdi only I think.
01:39.15etfonhomeyI might be wrong.
01:39.25zackzwell, it didnt even build the DAHDI module either
01:39.49Stressor69yes, dahdi
01:40.00etfonhomeyaep, now create a dialplan so you can call something that will  pay music back to you.
01:40.13mostyzackz, you need to build and install dahdi separately before building asterisk
01:40.19zackzfrom the doc: This version of Asterisk can be built using either Zaptel or DAHDI,
01:40.23Stressor69zackz: caught me off gaurd as well. setup is basically the same as zap
01:40.28zackzso, basically their documentation is inaccurate
01:40.46aepetfonhomey: yeah now i can go further in that book, awesome
01:40.50aepetfonhomey: thanks a lot!
01:41.00mostyzackz, zaptel or dahdi, either will do. the documentation is accurate
01:41.15zackzi built zaptel
01:41.17aepi get "the person you are calling is unavailable"
01:41.18aephehe
01:41.24zackzbut my asterisk does not even have a chan_zap module
01:41.28aep* has built in sounds for that, awesome
01:41.30etfonhomeyaep, that's from X-Lite.
01:41.31mostyzackz, is zaptel installed?
01:41.33zackzthere arent even any .h or .c files
01:41.34aepoh :(
01:41.36zackzyes i installed it first
01:41.43mostyzackz, modules loaded?
01:41.44zackzcards are detected fine
01:41.51zackzthere is no chan_zap module
01:41.52zackzat all
01:42.02mostyzackz, and did you select chan_zap / chan_dahdi in the asterisk config?
01:42.07zackzthere are no files on the system besides my old backups form 1.2
01:42.08etfonhomeyaep, pastebin your extensions.conf file and I'll tell you a number to dial in order to test your audio.
01:42.55zackzmosty: there is no option for chan_zap
01:43.03mostyzackz, it's called chan_dahdi in 1.4.22
01:43.27aepetfonhomey: http://rafb.net/p/pbEnG466.html
01:43.28zackzbut will it work with zaptel 1.4.12.1?
01:43.31aepits huge, i didnt modify it
01:44.40zackzi dont even see dahdi on the asterisk.org downloads page
01:44.58zackzoh i see on the sidebar
01:45.00zackznm
01:45.21Akiyukihmm
01:45.27Akiyukiwhat happened to "sip set debug" in 1.6?
01:45.31AkiyukiI have only used 1.4
01:46.11etfonhomeyaep, in sip.conf change the context for [aep] to "demo" and do a sip reload
01:47.25aepyup
01:47.59etfonhomeyaep, now dial 600 in X-Lite and hit Enter.
01:48.11*** join/#asterisk Spirits-Sight (n=christop@c-24-218-128-159.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
01:48.49aepSIP/2.0 407 Proxy Authentication Required
01:48.58aepoO
01:49.24AkiyukiUnable to connect to remote asterisk (does /var/run/asterisk/asterisk.ctl exist?)
01:49.47etfonhomeyAkiyuji, that means * is most likely NOT running.
01:49.54etfonhomeyAkiyuki*
01:50.37etfonhomeyaep, that shows up in the SIP debug on your * box?
01:50.59Akiyuki<PROTECTED>
01:51.00AkiyukiAsterisk died with code 1.
01:51.00Akiyukicat: /var/run/asterisk.pid: No such file or directory
01:51.00AkiyukiAutomatically restarting Asterisk.
01:51.21zackzdo asterisk -cvvvvvvvvvvv
01:52.15AkiyukiUnable to bind to 0                                                                             .0.0.0 port 4520: Address already in use
01:52.41etfonhomeyaep, hello?
01:52.52aepuh sorry.
01:52.56aepyes, it does
01:53.11etfonhomeyaep, in sip.conf, change type=peer
01:53.14aepand no connection
01:53.39aepok
01:53.41*** join/#asterisk [T]ank (n=ckwall@c-71-199-25-239.hsd1.ut.comcast.net)
01:54.10AkiyukiWhere is the 4520 coming from? its 5060 in sip.conf
01:54.12aeplots of output and
01:54.13aep[Nov 25 18:59:43] WARNING[17777]: chan_sip.c:1958 retrans_pkt: Maximum retries exceeded on transmission MDhlNTRjY2EyMTBlYWI3YzJjZGY2ZGE3MTJlZGU1ODE. for seqno 1 (Critical Response) -- See doc/sip-retransmit.txt.
01:54.17aepthis might be relevant
01:54.42aepit tryes to send a 200 OK
01:54.44[T]ankanyone here able to recommend a sip provider supporting t.38 here in the US? would prefer a pay as you go, but whatever I can find. was getting set up with one carrier that advertised that they supported it, they bailed out on me last minute and said they were no longer supporting in.
01:54.45[T]ankit
01:55.43*** join/#asterisk brut- (n=brut@h66-173-4-254.mntimn.dedicated.static.tds.net)
01:55.51Carlos_PHXipcomms.net
01:56.02etfonhomeyaep, still on the * CLI?  Pastebin the output of "sip show peers"
01:56.13Akiyukistupid asterisk
01:56.17Akiyukishoulda installed from rpm
01:56.21Carlos_PHXAsterisk sucks
01:56.33aepetfonhomey: it's just   "aep/aep                    84.56.121.XXX    D   N      48982    OK (42 ms)        "
01:56.41Carlos_PHXRPMs are for little girls and "men" who pee sitting down.
01:56.45iCEBrkrum yeah fax over voip aint happening
01:56.49AkiyukiYou must not be married :)
01:56.53Akiyukipees sitting down
01:57.01Carlos_PHXiCEBrkr: I'll tell my servers doing fax over VoIP to stop it then.
01:57.11iCEBrkruh huh.
01:57.21iCEBrkryou gotta have a gateway
01:57.32*** join/#asterisk brunner (i=4223ac7b@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f90edf7589f2f57d)
01:57.33Carlos_PHXrm -rf /   There, no move fax over VoIP.
01:57.49*** join/#asterisk egypcio (n=egypcio@unaffiliated/egypcio)
01:58.02Carlos_PHXiCEBrkr: Yes, you do.
01:58.11iCEBrkrhaha ok then
01:58.31brunnerO
01:58.32Carlos_PHXOtherwise what, you'd fax from nothing to nothing?
01:58.41iCEBrkrtheres no way that shit will work say oveer voicepulse or bandwidth, etc etc
01:59.04Carlos_PHXSure.  Right.  I'll turn it off then.
01:59.09Carlos_PHXSince it's not actually working.
01:59.16Carlos_PHXWould you like to try one of my T.38 numbers?
01:59.33iCEBrkrwhich probably termminate into some cisco device
01:59.40Carlos_PHXAsterisk on my side.
01:59.50Akiyukietfonhomey: Can you take a look at http://pastebin.ca/1267155
02:00.02Carlos_PHXDunno what the providers (Bandwidth, etc) use on their side.
02:00.12*** part/#asterisk zackz (n=zack@rrcs-24-123-106-250.central.biz.rr.com)
02:00.37etfonhomeyaep, do you still have the firewall on?
02:00.50etfonhomeyAkiyuki, where is this text from?
02:01.02Akiyukietfonhomey: Command line when using /etc/init.d/asterisk start
02:01.05aepetfonhomey: no
02:01.07pcraneanyone know anything about this:
02:01.07brunnerI'm looking to build a web interface using MySQL and PHP that allows my call screener to transfer people in a queue to a MeetMe room, and then allow my radio hosts to unmute people in the MeetMe room.  I see that I can use a couple different applications to have asterisk INSERT rows into my DB, when a call comes in, goes into the queue, gets transferred into the MeetMe room, but what's the best interface to use to allow
02:01.07pcraneUnable to request channel Local
02:01.32etfonhomeyAkiyuki, what if you just do "asterisk" from the command line?
02:01.35brunnerfor example, I could probably do it using the manager interface, but is that the preferred way?
02:01.47Akiyukietfonhomey: Unable to open pid file '/var/run/asterisk/asterisk.pid': No such file or directory
02:02.06*** join/#asterisk pyite (n=pyite@c-76-21-105-195.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
02:02.09iCEBrkrbrunner, good luck. thats quite a bit of work
02:02.25iCEBrkrmanaging the queus outside of the queue app is pita
02:02.54iCEBrkrim mobile on my g1...
02:03.00etfonhomeyaep, It looks like SIP is working, but RTP is having problems.
02:03.02iCEBrkratrsisk Icvvvvvv
02:03.12iCEBrkroop
02:03.23iCEBrkratrisk -cvvvvvv
02:03.33aepetfonhomey: is that a different port?
02:03.41[T]ankCarlos_PHX: do you use these guys?
02:03.50etfonhomeyaep, yes, why do you still have your firewall on?
02:04.09aepi dont,  but i would try ther port anyway
02:04.14aepmy isp blocks various ports
02:04.32Carlos_PHX[T]ank: You mean ipcomms?  Just a little, we looked at them for a wholesale subcarrier but they're a little small for us.
02:04.37Akiyukietfonhomey: Should i `touch` that file?
02:04.41Carlos_PHXI do have a test account and it does work fine.
02:04.57brunneriCEBrkr: couldn't I just have a PHP script use the Asterisk Manager API to redirect whatever user in the queue to an extension that puts them into the MeetMe room?
02:04.59etfonhomeyaep, /etc/asterisk/rtp.conf   the ports are rtpstart-rtpend
02:05.06Carlos_PHXOur production T.38 is with Vitelity, but they don't support that on the consumer level.
02:05.30iCEBrkrbrunner, whats the end goal?
02:05.47Carlos_PHXI was pleased with the support from ipcomms, and the prices are good for end-user accounts.
02:05.48etfonhomeyAkiyuki, * creates that file when it is running.
02:05.55iCEBrkrbrunner, reminder, im mobile on a tiny keyboard, responses will be abbvr.
02:06.40etfonhomeyAkiyuki, what user are you trying to run it as?  Sounds like a permissions issue.
02:06.44Akiyukiroot
02:06.52*** join/#asterisk subdolus (n=subdolus@subby.afraid.org)
02:07.18aep[Nov 25 19:13:00] WARNING[17777]: chan_sip.c:1980 retrans_pkt: Hanging up call YWViMGQzMzRhYTc1NmUwYzYzYzc4NmUwYWUxOTAxMTk. - no reply to our critical packet (see doc/sip-retransmit.txt).
02:07.23iCEBrkrakiyuki, add -cvvvvvv cmd line opts
02:07.27aepetfonhomey: the ports are fine however
02:07.50etfonhomeyAkiyuki, remove any trace of * from your system and start over from scratch.
02:07.54[TK]D-Fenderaep: Thats a firewall / routing / NAT error
02:08.04iCEBrkryo tk
02:08.06brunneriCEBrkr: that's fine.  This is what I want to do:  1) Incoming calls go into a queue 2) A call screener (an agent) screens each call, and then transfers the caller to an extension that puts them into a MeetMe room muted.  3) A web interface would show what calls are in the MeetMe room, and the web user clicks on someone to unmute them
02:08.13aep[TK]D-Fender: firewall is of
02:08.21aepwait, except on that faildows machine
02:08.52pcraneanyone know why I can't create a local channel?
02:08.53[T]ankCarlos_PHX: test account, meaning one of their free dids?
02:08.59[TK]D-Fenderaep: What networking sits between * and your client?
02:09.03iCEBrkrbrunner, as long as you use the built in queue and meet me.  you can use funcodbc to write things to the db
02:09.31brunneriCEBrkr: yes, but that's the best way for my PHP script to transfer callers from the queue to the MeetMe room?
02:09.39aep[TK]D-Fender: the client is behind a NAT. some sort of black box home router which btw has  Voip on its own.   then the server is a public machine in the internet
02:09.42iCEBrkrbrunner, i.m thinking there are ami cmds to mute/unmute
02:09.59[TK]D-Fenderaep: NAT requires several specific things configured to work :
02:10.01[TK]D-Fender~sipnat
02:10.02jbot[~sipnat] Quick guide on configuring * + SIP behind NAT : http://www.aocomputing.net/?p=3 , otherwise check the WIKI at http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+SIP+NAT+solutions
02:10.03[TK]D-Fender^^^^^^^^^^
02:10.27aepallright, thank you
02:10.50Akiyukii got it working
02:10.51Akiyukior atleast up
02:11.06aep[TK]D-Fender: did what is suggests,  etfonhomey already told me
02:11.13iCEBrkrbrunner, id just make socket connections to ami and issue the proper cmds
02:11.15Carlos_PHXbeats head on wall repeatedly. The danger of provisioning customer equipment at home is that you may accidentally provision your own gear instead, then wonder why it doesn't work.
02:11.17aep[TK]D-Fender: SIP apears to connect but voice isnt transported
02:11.26etfonhomeyaep, I'm confinced it's a firewall issue.
02:11.30brunnerDoes anyone know how to unmute callers in a MeetMe room using AMI or any other interface?
02:11.39[TK]D-Fenderaep: that is the problem.
02:11.45[TK]D-Fenderaep RTP is the hard part
02:11.51aepoh heh
02:11.52[TK]D-Fenderaep: Now go read the guide
02:12.02iCEBrkrbrunner, the commands are documented on voip-info
02:12.25brunneriCEBrkr: I'm there now, but I can't find a command that unmutes callers
02:12.27[TK]D-Fenderbrunner: "help meetme"
02:13.03aepok turned all firewals in the middle of
02:13.15aepand yes i added those two options to sip.conf
02:13.39[TK]D-Fenderaep: TWO?  more than that.. keep reading it till your eyes bleed
02:13.45Akiyukihuzzah
02:13.52brunner[TK]D-Fender: I have to do this through the Asterisk Manager API
02:13.53AkiyukiI installed and got asterisk started from source!
02:13.54iCEBrkrhaha
02:14.24iCEBrkrbrunner, look into 'command'
02:14.25[TK]D-Fenderbrunner: And my answer is EVERY bit as applicable to that.
02:14.29[TK]D-Fender^^^
02:14.33iCEBrkrthere might be a way from the cli
02:14.42[TK]D-FenderiCEBrkr: There is...
02:14.59aep[TK]D-Fender: maybe a misunderstanding, but i have #9 from that list
02:15.03iCEBrkri know theres a way hehe
02:15.09aepit mentiones  nat=yes and qualify=yes
02:15.09[TK]D-Fenderaep: FIRST link...
02:15.14brunner[TK]D-Fender: Oh, I see.  Thank you.
02:15.27aep[TK]D-Fender: that doesnt reflect my setup. but i'll read it anyway
02:15.30brunnerAre there any other interfaces that could be used for this kind of interaction?
02:15.39[TK]D-Fenderaep: Which is?
02:15.55aep[TK]D-Fender: i have only one nat.  that one has two
02:15.57iCEBrkrbrunner, such as?
02:15.58[TK]D-FenderbruCLI or AMI.  Thats it.
02:16.31brunneriCEBrkr: any other API's
02:16.39brunner[TK]D-Fender: okay, thanks!
02:16.58iCEBrkrbrunner, just socket_open()
02:17.07iCEBrkror whatever the php cmd is
02:17.14iCEBrkrattach to the ami port
02:17.19aep[TK]D-Fender: sorry, cant find something new there.  any hints for me?
02:17.21brunneriCEBrkr, [TK]D-Fender: thanks for the information.  Sorry for my ignorance.  I just started playing with asterisk for the first time yesterday.
02:17.22iCEBrkrloging, issue the cmds
02:17.43[TK]D-FenderbruNot bad, barely in and already up to your neck in it...
02:17.52iCEBrkrhaha
02:17.58[TK]D-Fenderbrunner: Keep treading, Noah!
02:18.00iCEBrkrtk, isnt that always the case??
02:18.15brunnerthis can't be that hard.
02:18.37[TK]D-Fenderbrunner: Heard the same thing in Sex Ed.
02:18.43iCEBrkrlol
02:19.53iCEBrkroh cool i found tab
02:20.06iCEBrkrso i can do nick coompletion
02:20.27Carlos_PHXYes, but have you found Jesus?
02:20.43iCEBrkr404
02:21.23brunnerIs there any reason I shouldn't use the MYSQL command instead of an external PHP script to keep track of calls as they come in?
02:21.47jayteeI found Jesus. He was hiding in Housewares in the WalMart in Brownsburg,IN. Looked like he hadn't slept in weeks.
02:21.58iCEBrkryou really wanna keep as much as possiible in the dial plan
02:22.15brunnerSo I suppose that's a no.
02:22.58[TK]D-FenderCarlos_PHX: Well, I've witnessed many things... but never Jehovah.
02:23.17iCEBrkrbrunner, dialplam is native processing, no shelling out and less cpu needed
02:23.21*** join/#asterisk Fairman (n=Fairman@c-76-105-10-247.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
02:24.02Fairmanhey everybody
02:25.02*** join/#asterisk riddlebox (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com)
02:25.23aepcould it be a problem that this dsl home router box does sip on its own?
02:25.42[TK]D-Fenderaep: yes
02:25.52aepawesome
02:25.58[TK]D-Fenderaep: THAT COULD BE A RATHER SERIOUS ISSUE
02:25.58aepany idea to fix that?
02:26.06[TK]D-Fenderaep: R&R <-
02:26.40aephm?
02:27.24Carlos_PHX~R&R
02:27.24jbotsomebody said 3r was Rotate and Resize (and Reflect) extensions for XFree86, that allow the xserver to inform the x-clients of desktop size (etc) changes, so they can update themselves. http://www.xfree86.org/~keithp/talks/randr/
02:27.28[TK]D-Fenderaep: Rip & Replace
02:27.48Carlos_PHXjbot was way off.
02:28.08aep[TK]D-Fender: there are no replacements.  the router boxes are vendor locked
02:28.19aepyou may not connect to the internet with ppp anymore
02:28.31[TK]D-Fenderaep: get a new vendor
02:28.33aepthey roll they propriatary stuff instead
02:28.35[TK]D-FenderNEXT!!@@@!@! (c) BKW
02:28.39iCEBrkrha
02:28.42aepfor that i'd need a new country first ;)
02:28.48aepbecouse there are only 3 there
02:28.54aepso anyway, problem not fixable?
02:29.09[TK]D-Fenderaep: See, who knew that * could so completely change your life!
02:29.17iCEBrkrhaha
02:29.18aepheh
02:29.28iCEBrkr[TK]D-Fender: yeah im bald now
02:29.36[TK]D-Fenderaep: But on that note, try to put their router behind one of your own
02:29.52aepyeah thats what i was thinking.  ie tunnel
02:30.16Fairman* may soon need a 12 step program... *A
02:30.20aepi need to tunnel from everywhere nowadays anyway
02:30.41aepbecouse ISPs  are so mart
02:30.43aep*smart
02:31.06iCEBrkri almost made the switch to freeswitch, but then all my callmanager dtuff would have to be rewritten
02:31.12Fairmanis probably not as funny as he thinks he is...
02:31.15aepanyone knows a cheap voip service? i hate wasting on of my server IPs for that all the time
02:32.26[TK]D-Fenderaep: That router might FUBAR everyhting jsut the same... but then again, please describe the networking between * and your client like I asked.
02:33.14*** join/#asterisk VoipForces (n=courchea@67.55.25.219)
02:33.18aep[client] ->  [some weird locked router that does voip on its own] ->  internet ->  asterisk
02:33.25VoipForcesHi all, anyone has a recommended version of spandsp to use with asterisk 1.4?
02:33.33aepone nat between me and the internez
02:34.06aepwas that a sufficant description?
02:34.14iCEBrkrspandex went out in the 90s
02:34.27[TK]D-Fenderaep: So * is on a public IP?
02:34.31aepit's  192.168.2.20 -> 192.168.2.1  ->   98.something  ->  76.something
02:34.36aep[TK]D-Fender: yes
02:34.37VoipForces:-P iCEBrkr
02:34.40iCEBrkrhehe
02:35.02iCEBrkrspandsp is for faxing? i forget
02:35.10[TK]D-Fenderaep: Ok, then pastebin your sip.conf masking only passwords and verify that your server's firewall is not in the way.
02:35.13[TK]D-Fender~pb
02:35.14jbot[~pb] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste, or , http://bin.cakephp.org/
02:35.16[TK]D-Fender^^^^^
02:35.22[TK]D-FenderiCEBrkr: yes
02:35.36iCEBrkri gave up on faxing
02:35.51aep[TK]D-Fender: http://rafb.net/p/paNej055.html
02:35.57aep[TK]D-Fender: all firewalls are of
02:36.01aepincluding the clients
02:36.24VoipForcesiCEBrkr: Yes. Works good. But right now it's my first real attemps ar outbound broadcasting of fax.
02:36.56VoipForcesI'm writing an outbound fax broadcaster. Right now it works sending faxes on 23 channels (PRI). But asterisk core dumps once in a while. I'm suspecting spandsp
02:37.03[TK]D-Fenderaep: So what happens so far?
02:37.28aep[TK]D-Fender: SIP connects fine , then in try to dial 600 and i get several retryes of sendin 200 OK
02:37.40aepthen the server decices to stop trying and drops the connection
02:37.48[TK]D-Fenderaep: ok, pastebin a call attempt with "sip set debug on" at CLI
02:37.49aepit claims the client never answered
02:37.53aepok
02:38.05[TK]D-Fenderaep: And what client are you using?
02:38.08aepxlite
02:38.11iCEBrkrsure is spandsp?
02:38.20[TK]D-Fenderaep: Ok, You're doing pretty good so far....
02:38.29iCEBrkrasterisk wll expode on reloads under high traffic
02:38.46*** part/#asterisk [T]ank (n=ckwall@c-71-199-25-239.hsd1.ut.comcast.net)
02:39.35VoipForcesiCEBrkr: I have a voice broadcaster dialing on 200-250 sip channels no problem
02:39.50aep[TK]D-Fender: http://rafb.net/p/SqzuzZ84.html
02:39.59iCEBrkrVoipForces: you generating call files,
02:40.00iCEBrkr,
02:40.02iCEBrkr?
02:40.27VoipForcesYup
02:41.08iCEBrkri wonder about it grabbing the call files
02:41.52iCEBrkri wrote a system to dial and deliver surveys. i found it blowing up from time to time under the right conditions
02:42.34VoipForcesiCEBrkr: Did not have that problem till this fax thing.
02:42.39[TK]D-Fenderaep: Either your provider is screwing with the inbound SIP, or that router is.
02:42.45iCEBrkrinteresting
02:42.53VoipForcesRight now I'm trying the different version of spandsp
02:42.57aep[TK]D-Fender: uh, what does happen?
02:43.01iCEBrkri was using ast 1.2
02:43.02[TK]D-Fenderaep: You curiously seem to have done everything right the first time...
02:43.13iCEBrkrso i figured its just old
02:43.23VoipForcesHave someone dialing on 4 PRI with asterisk 1.2 and call files
02:43.36aepso its that router :(
02:43.40VoipForcesI tested it with up to 6 PRI
02:43.49aep[TK]D-Fender: could i try using different ports for rdp?
02:43.50VoipForcesWith the right hardware it works.
02:43.50iCEBrkrVoipForces: hrrm then maybe it is spandsp
02:44.08iCEBrkrits been over 4yrs since ive looked at spandsp
02:44.22[TK]D-Fenderaep: could always try... but thats client-side, and really isn't anything you should ever have to mess with....
02:44.51VoipForcesDoes 1.6 still require spandsp?
02:44.58Carlos_PHXWoohoo, got a fax over an ATA.  Yeah, I know, it should be easy, but first time trying.
02:45.00iCEBrkrim all about client apps now days
02:45.05Carlos_PHXVoipForces: Yes.
02:45.13Carlos_PHXVoipForces: You trying to do T.38?
02:45.29VoipForcesno straight faxing outbound via a PRI
02:45.36iCEBrkrCarlos_PHX: yeah he is, asterisk is seg faulting tho
02:45.49Carlos_PHXWhich version of SpanDSP?
02:46.02VoipForcesFax over a PRI or analog if T.30 is I'm not mistaking
02:46.13Carlos_PHXYes
02:46.17iCEBrkrok time to collect the bar tab and head home.. the shield is on
02:46.23VoipForcesCarlos: 0.0.4pre16
02:46.29Carlos_PHXYou still need SpanDSP.
02:46.39aepok i'll go sleep now
02:46.41Carlos_PHXHmm, with Asterisk 1.6 release version?
02:46.42aepthank [TK]D-Fender
02:46.45VoipForcesCarlos: Right now I'm under asterisk 1.4
02:46.51aepgoing to try a tunnel tomorow
02:46.53VoipForcesAbout to try 0.0.4pre18
02:47.00Carlos_PHXI might go lower.
02:47.09Carlos_PHXHold on, let me see what I have in our production 1.4 server.
02:47.29[TK]D-Fenderaep: What is your target audeince going to connect from?
02:47.43VoipForcesCarlos_PHX: Thanks.
02:48.00aep[TK]D-Fender: everone from some kind of home internet /DSL
02:48.06Carlos_PHXspandsp-0.0.5pre4.tgz
02:48.14aepso everyone behind a nat
02:48.15Carlos_PHXYes, it's old, but it is working.
02:48.22[TK]D-Fenderaep: So basically you're the only one a little screwed while testing?
02:48.23AkiyukiI need to install asterisk sounds now
02:48.27VoipForcesCarlos_PHX: Tried it and it bombed
02:48.40Carlos_PHXVoipForces: There's another potential issue...let me look at notes.
02:48.43aep[TK]D-Fender: no.  my setup is standard and enforced by our ISPs  in the entire country
02:48.52[TK]D-Fenderaep: and they aren't so like to be in your unfortunate situation?
02:48.54aepthey shutdown ppp
02:49.03VoipForcesCarlos_PHX: 0.0.6 series won't even compile app_txfax
02:49.08[TK]D-Fenderaep: ***OUCH***
02:49.09aep[TK]D-Fender: they're in the same situation, why?
02:49.16Carlos_PHXVoipForces: Is it possible to try out 1.6?  I have an install script that works, I've used it many times.
02:49.30Carlos_PHXThe fax in 1.6 is WAYYYY better
02:49.41[TK]D-Fenderaep: your clients shouldn't have to fight so hard.  Ok, here's plan B : they are going to connect via softphones, right?
02:49.48VoipForcesCarlos_PHX: Right now I'm keeping 1.6 as a last resort.
02:50.00Carlos_PHXIs there a concrete reason, or fear of the new?
02:50.18aep[TK]D-Fender: whatever they have   (its for internal co,munications only btw,not a service, so hacks are fine)
02:50.18Carlos_PHXBecause I've got 1.6RC6 in production, solid.  Didn't bother upgrading to release.
02:50.29aep[TK]D-Fender: i havea  nokia smartphone that does voip.  i'd like to use it
02:50.49[TK]D-Fenderaep: MORE than excellent.  Go download Zoiper, and use IAX2 instead of SIP for your protocol.
02:50.51[TK]D-Fender~zoiper
02:50.52jbot[~zoiper] Zoiper (Formerly known as Idefisk) is a free SIP and IAX soft-phone for Windows, MacOSX, and Linux that can be found at http://www.zoiper.com
02:50.54VoipForcesCarlos_PHX: I need something dead stable. Plus I only deploy released version.
02:50.55AkiyukiOk, I installed asterisk-sounds, but the demo files are missing. Is that in addons?
02:51.07VoipForcesCarlos_PHX: Plus I remember the first versions of 1.4.xx
02:51.18Carlos_PHXVoipForces: I think 1.6 is stable.  Yes, things have changed a lot since then.
02:51.21aepoh? going to do so right away
02:51.23Carlos_PHXHow Digium manages coding.
02:51.31[TK]D-Fenderaep: Odds are your provider is just ignorant enough of it not to get in IAX's way and its FAR friendler with NAT
02:51.39Carlos_PHXI can tell you that fax on 1.6 is 100 times improved over 1.4.
02:52.07Carlos_PHXIn the next couple weeks we will be moving all our fax servers to 1.6.
02:52.14[TK]D-Fenderaep: SIP+RTP takes more ports and is commonly filtered, etc.  IAX2 flies under most radars with 1 port needed and media and signalling on the same one
02:52.18Carlos_PHXOn top of that, we run them in VMware...
02:52.24[TK]D-Fenderaep: You're a prime candidate
02:52.25VoipForcesCarlos_PHX: Hmmm. ok, I'll try a few spandsp versions first than see about 1.6. Do you know if freePBX is 1.6 frendly?
02:52.48[TK]D-FenderVoipForces: 2.5 is
02:53.02VoipForcesCarlos_PHX: Production in VMWare??? That I would never do.
02:53.20VoipForces[TK]D-Fender: Thanks.
02:53.36aep[TK]D-Fender: sounds like what i need
02:53.37Carlos_PHXVoipForces: I know, VMware "can't" work, yet here we are.
02:53.57[TK]D-Fenderaep: give it a try.  client is free and setup is not harder than SIP
02:54.07VoipForcesCarlos_PHX: I use it for developement/test purpose, that's it.
02:54.32Carlos_PHXVoipForces: See my notes, particularly the configure line for spandsp here:  http://televolve.pastebin.com/m5e0874fd
02:54.43Carlos_PHXVMware runs most of our infrastructure, and we want to do more.
02:54.57Carlos_PHXVMware VI3 Enterprise of course, not the freebie.
02:55.13Carlos_PHXAsterisk does NOT scale at all on the freebie.
02:55.46Akiyuki[Nov 25 21:52:54] WARNING[21282]: file.c:891 ast_streamfile: Unable to open hawaii (format 0x4 (ulaw)): No such file or directory but hawaii.gsm exists in /var/lib/asterisk/sounds
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02:56.19aep[TK]D-Fender: hm my mobile doesnt support IAX aparantly.
02:56.37[TK]D-Fenderaep: that was pretty mush assured from the start..
02:56.41AkiyukiAh, that worked. I had to do the full path to it. Maybe need tochange a global var
02:56.55[TK]D-Fenderaep: IAx2 isn't exactly popular
02:57.00aepoh
02:57.20[TK]D-Fenderaep: 3rd option..... so... how's Skype work in your parts? :)
02:57.29aeppretty good.
02:57.41VoipForcesCarlos_PHX: LOL banged my head on that /usr also LOL
02:57.55aepskype is considered an end user application, so they dont break it
02:57.57[TK]D-Fenderaep: Ok, the only real options for connecting * to skype are per-channep, but for your needs would probably do OK.
02:58.18[TK]D-Fenderaep: Digium is preparing to relase an OFFICIAL channel driver (checp licensed per channel).
02:58.21Carlos_PHXVoipForces: That caused most of my problems.
02:58.24aepcool
02:58.27aepthanks so far.
02:58.35[TK]D-Fenderaep: not sure exactly how long that may take, but there are 3rd party options
02:58.40VoipForcesCarlos_PHX: Damed that fax dialer is working so well if not for those core dups.
02:58.41Carlos_PHXI don't know if anyone other than coppice could help further, but do consider trying 1.6.
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02:58.56aepi'll try to get some more information on that sip problem though and maybe sue my ISP. together with all the other broken parts.
02:59.10aepeven http is broken
02:59.33[TK]D-Fenderaep: I'm giving the extra bit because you're the most non-newb newb I've seen in here in ages and are being FUBAR'd by forces beyond "reasonable" control
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02:59.54aepheh thanks
03:00.08[TK]D-Fenderaep: Skype is a BASTARD protocol but if its what you need to make it work, then thats what we're about.
03:00.31aepnice to hear that * can connect to skype :)
03:00.35[TK]D-Fenderaep: Working first, working idealy second
03:00.44aephehe
03:01.07[TK]D-Fenderaep: Oh don't get me wrong... CURRENT Skype connectivity is quick hackish... but if its what it takes, so be it
03:01.20[TK]D-Fenderaep: Digium's official one will be clean I'm sure
03:01.32[TK]D-Fenderaep: Keep an eye out
03:01.34[TK]D-Fender~skype
03:01.35jbot[~skype] Skype is a free VoIP software and service using a closed client and propritary protocol. Only commercial channel drivers exist, with most solutions being complex, complicated, and hack-ish . Digium's SkypeForAsterisk (see ~SkypeForAsterisk) is a new solution that is a cleaner non-dependent option.
03:01.43[TK]D-Fender~skypeforasterisk
03:01.44jbot[~skypeforasterisk] is a Digium-made channel driver that allows Asterisk to connect to the Skype network using a Skype-supported connection method. Unlike all other solutions it does not require X11, kernel modules, or a Windows machine. See http://www.astricon.net/skype for beta details.
03:01.58aepwill do
03:02.03etfonhomeyaep, based on your config, your * box is correctly setup.
03:02.28etfonhomeyaep, I just connected to it via my xlite and dialed 600 successfully.
03:02.35[TK]D-Fenderetfonhomey: Nice to see you've caught up to 5 steps ago :)
03:02.44aepetfonhomey: to my box? cool
03:02.59etfonhomey[TK]D-Fender, ask aep how he got this far
03:03.10aeppoints at etfonhomey
03:03.13[TK]D-Fenderetfonhomey: Been hand-holding since I left?
03:03.20aepyup
03:03.36etfonhomey[TK]D-Fender, I've been there before.
03:03.38[TK]D-Fenderaep: I'm still convinced you're not a twit, don't ruin it!
03:03.50aepheh :)
03:04.05etfonhomeyaep, It's your home setup  that's jacked up.
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03:04.14aepyeah i guess.
03:04.15aepsad
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03:04.50etfonhomeyaep, now add the secret back into your sip.conf for [aep] so other people don't look at your sip debug output and connect to your box.
03:05.14aepi'll shut it down before i go.  no worries. but thanks for the hint
03:05.40etfonhomeyaep, what country are you in?
03:05.44aepgermany
03:06.16etfonhomeyaep, You get your home phone via SIP from your ISP and by their supplied router?
03:06.18[TK]D-Fenderaep: I'd be guessing not a major city region...
03:06.50aepetfonhomey: yes
03:06.56aep[TK]D-Fender: nope.
03:07.29aepwell yes, here's a university, but its not like anyone is allowed to connect to them
03:07.35etfonhomeyaep, They are probably filtering SIP not bound for there servers.  Probably via their QoS config.
03:07.45[TK]D-Fenderaep: My condolences for your challenging working environment. Do Give IAX2 a try for the PC clients that can support it, just know that you won't find so myc available for Cell clients, etc
03:07.46etfonhomeytheir*
03:08.18etfonhomeyaep, is your last hope
03:08.23etfonhomeyIAX2 that is.
03:08.38aep[TK]D-Fender: if that works i can get away with proxiing me out via another  * i guess ;)
03:09.04aepphone->SIP-> IAX2->router->servr
03:09.11aepsomething like that
03:09.24aepactually thats pretty cool.  asterisk is awesome
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03:10.19etfonhomey[TK]D-Fender, didn't FWD have an IAX enabled client?
03:10.46aepallright. bedtime.  thanks alot again for your support  [TK]D-Fender and etfonhomey .  i'll name you when i'm a famous rockstar.  hehe, oh well. have a good day
03:10.55riddleboxhrmm I have to check to see I think  I may have a fwd acccount
03:11.06[TK]D-Fenderetfonhomey: at one point they had a gateway... they were always more of a service than a client
03:11.08etfonhomeyaep, you're welcome.
03:11.15[TK]D-Fenderaep: yup
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03:12.02etfonhomey[TK]D-Fender, I thought they had the FWD Communicator client that would use IAX.  It was probably hard coded to only connect to their servers like an AIM or Yahoo! IM client.
03:12.48[TK]D-Fenderetfonhomey: protocols are protocols.. who cares about the client?
03:14.06etfonhomeyYou should see my AMI client, then...
03:14.22VoipForcesCarlos_PHX: How well dahdi and wanpipe behave together?
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03:15.03Carlos_PHXVoipForces: Don't know, never tried it.
03:15.18Carlos_PHXLast used Sangoma in Asterisk 0.9
03:15.43[TK]D-FenderCarlos_PHX: VoipForces Should be normal with latest releases
03:16.34VoipForcesThanks again TK
03:20.27VoipForcesis dahdi using the same zaptel.conf configuratio file and format?
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03:22.14jasonwootcan I setup linux as 'multihomed' on two NICs to the same network, or is that asking for trouble?
03:22.37[T]ankthis is slightly off topic, but does anyone know how to install xlite or something similar to that (in windows) to a usb thumb drive so that it is executable and all settings saved no matter what machine it plugs into?
03:22.52[T]anki can install and run it from there... but the settings look like they are stored on the local machine
03:22.57VoipForcesjasonwoot: yes, not problem at all
03:23.40VoipForces[T]ank: xlite saves it's setting in the registry
03:23.47VoipForces[T]ank: try zoiper
03:24.03jasonwootVoipForces: I wouldn't attempt it, but the scenario is: my ISP is offering SIP trunking, but only over an additional port on my fiber service
03:24.15[T]ankVoipForces: thats a new one... heading to google. does it work well?
03:24.22jasonwootmeaning I have to plug it into 2nd NIC, but its to the same ISP
03:24.32jasonwootthe setup is sorta baking my noodle
03:25.17etfonhomey[T]ank, there is a command-line swith for X-Lite that may do something.  -argfile=  is the switch.
03:25.19VoipForcesjasonwoot: well, you just have to do yor routing correctly
03:26.48VoipForces[T]ank: zoiper been around for a while. It's SIP and IAX, Linux, Windoze and Mac. Works like a charm.
03:27.33jasonwootVoipForces: I've added a static route with what I *think* is the correct syntax, but it's not pingable over that interface,
03:27.34jasonwootmust networking be restarted for it to route?
03:29.41VoipForcesshould not.
03:30.10VoipForcesjasonwoot: I recommend you go to a networking specific channel.
03:30.53UnixDawgok anyone here using the asterisk-now 1.5 beta
03:31.01UnixDawgand the reports are not working
03:31.08UnixDawgfor the cdrs?
03:32.30jasonwootVoipForces: know a good linux networking channel?
03:36.06VoipForcesjasonwoot: Your local LUG is probably the best source.
03:36.28VoipForcesjasonwoot: Your will not get a lot of attention here as it's mainly asterisk stuff
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03:42.34[TK]D-Fenderjasonwoot: Multi-homed has been lots of trouble for the few I've heard of who've tried it
03:43.14[TK]D-Fenderjasonwoot: On safer option is to run * on on IP, and SER on the other proxying the call
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03:49.12mostyi tried multi-homed asterisk, it simply doesn't work
03:49.58etfonhomey[TK]D-Fender, when is SER necessary?
03:51.44VoipForcesI get No such command 'dahdi show channels' any ideas?
03:52.05mostyis chan_dahdi.so loaded?
03:52.06[TK]D-Fenderetfonhomey: just a way to have each app bind to 1 port so * doesn't get F-d up over which IP to originate a response from,etc
03:54.03VoipForcesmosty: loking...
03:54.32VoipForcesmosty: chan_dahdi.so does not even show...
03:55.04[TK]D-FenderVoipForces: did you INSTALL it?
03:55.29[TK]D-FenderVoipForces: And did you recompile * after?
03:55.35VoipForcesYup it is installed.
03:55.44VoipForcesRecompiling * just to be sure.
03:56.34VoipForcesNow it compiles:
03:56.42VoipForces<PROTECTED>
03:56.43VoipForces<PROTECTED>
03:58.55VoipForcesNow that's better: wanpipe1 card 0                          OK      0      0      0      ESF B8ZS YEL      0 db (CSU)/0-133 feet (DSX-1)
04:00.20Carlos_PHXDamn, doing T.38 with an ATA was too easy.
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04:05.09VoipForcesCarlox_PHX: Just completed the install of 1.6, but it refuses to compile app_fax. Menuconfig says that I need spandsp, which I have (same version as you).
04:08.27VoipForcesCarlos_PHX: Just completed the install of 1.6, but it refuses to compile app_fax. Menuconfig says that I need spandsp, which I have (same version as you).
04:10.33[TK]D-FenderVoipForces: Trash your whole source folder and start again
04:11.50Carlos_PHXVoipForces: Did you do the configure line as I had noted?
04:14.48VoipForcesYup
04:15.10VoipForces[TK]D-Fender: you mean the * folder?
04:15.23VoipForceshmmm: checking for minimum version of SpanDSP... no
04:15.43[TK]D-FenderVoipForces: your source folder
04:16.44VoipForces[TK]D-Fender: Looks more like a minimu version thing. trying with latest spandsp
04:17.30Carlos_PHXDid you use the same version I did, or another?
04:19.21VoipForcesTried with the same spandsp version, but released 1.6.0.1 of asterisk
04:19.36VoipForceswith spandsp-0.0.6pre2 app_fax shows up in menuconfig
04:20.31Carlos_PHXWhich one didn't work?
04:21.08VoipForcesspandsp-0.0.5pre4 with asterisk 1.6.0.1
04:21.30VoipForcesGreat now app_fax does not compile
04:21.40VoipForcesbut I saw reference for that on google
04:22.13VoipForces0013688: [patch] Update app_fax to work with spandsp-0.0.6
04:23.42VoipForcesEven with that patch it does not compile...
04:25.50VoipForcesThis is also related: http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=13756
04:28.50VoipForcesOk, for those iterested, looks like that for asterisk 1.6.0.1, you need spandsp-0.0.6pre1 + the patch in bug 13688
04:29.07VoipForces+ if you want to to t.38 you need the patch in bug 13756
04:30.11VoipForcesAnd I need to familiarize with those new 1.6 commands...
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04:32.58VoipForcesWell, found a bug with 1.6 and freepbx 2.5.1.0
04:36.31VoipForcesOk, I'm brain dead. Good night everyone
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04:43.52mostyi have a problem with MixMonitor in asterisk 1.4 becoming out of sync, so i'm trialling Monitor as a replacement. the logs show the Monitor command, but i can't find the file that it creates. /var/spool/asterisk/monitor/ is empty (and writable), and it fails even when i put the full path in the Monitor call. what could be wrong?
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05:03.10mostyseems to be a bug with the 'b' option
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05:24.16phixhey
05:25.28jameswfho
05:26.24ricko73hip hop hip hop
05:26.52ricko73jameswf: you kickin it with Naughty by Nature?
05:27.27jameswfNWA -Networks with Admins...
05:28.59jameswfRap had 2pac, I am 2pair
05:29.39jameswfoh I should start a band called twisted pair
05:29.46styelziam LimeLight Cool J
05:30.02ricko73oh you're twisted alright...
05:30.19styelzhook me up some of that Captain Rock
05:30.26jameswfJ- Java
05:30.35ricko73cranking out new image files for AstLinux (0.6.2 will be uploaded before the weekend)
05:31.13jameswfricko73: you should use our beta drivers
05:31.28ricko73jameswf: perhaps in trunk
05:31.45ricko73we're using 2.2.6 currently
05:32.12jameswfbryce may have em built, we push em quite a bit just dont call em release..
05:32.56ricko73gotcha
05:33.26ricko73still need to get someone from you co on the voip-user-conference call
05:33.31ricko73your co
05:34.24jameswfI am always there just lurking :) we should have our BRI card within 90 or so maybe I can do an intro...
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05:38.27jameswfoff to bed
05:38.43ricko73yeah...heading there shortly
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06:27.19C4awayPlaytones only works on early media if audio has been played back previously on that channel?
06:27.42C4awayAsterisk 1.6.0.1
06:29.59C4awaytested on a sip phone registered to an asterisk server calling another asterisk server over a SIP trunk, and from the PSTN through an SS7 gateway to the asterisk server ... both ways the Playtones(!950/330,!1400/330,!1800/330,0) was silent the first time it played, then the "not in service" message plays and can be heard, then the second Playtones(!950/330,!1400/330,!1800/330,0) is heard on the channel
06:31.04C4awayI fixed it by playing silence/1 first then the playtones
06:31.15C4awayis this a known issue?
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06:45.03Paige_hi365, has anyone managed to get a cisco 7911 phone to work with asterisk?
06:46.35hi365Paige_: did I become the mod for cisco phone issues?
06:47.38Paige_hi365 sorry autocomplete fail
06:47.47hi365cool then
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06:52.25sinelawcan asterisk do failover for phone calls? (if a server goes down during a call, the call will be continued on another server)?
06:53.40afinkum yes
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07:09.10sinelawhow?
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08:07.08farahhi all
08:07.51farahanyone knows how to monitor the command "iax2 show netstats" using SNMP
08:08.34farahplz i need some help
08:38.16Paige_hi365, has anyone managed to get a cisco 7911 phone to work with asterisk?
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08:55.51aiksa[LV]Hi everyone
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08:56.32aiksa[LV]is there an option how to pass early audio from zaptel E1 channel to end device without Answer()ing the channel before?
08:57.38seldevhi everyone
08:57.56seldevi'm looking for help with a digium tdm410p with an fxs module
08:58.43seldevis someone arround who has experience with this type of card?
09:14.55tzafrir_laptop~ask
09:14.56jbotsomebody said ask was Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic.  Don't ask if you can ask a question first.  Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them.  Better questions more frequently yield better answers.  We are all here voluntarily or against our will.
09:15.03tzafrir_laptopseldev, ==^
09:17.14seldevok, I've got the mentioned card and working kernel modules but no dial tone at all
09:18.32seldevwhen starting zaptel i get this
09:18.32seldevLoading zaptel framework:                                  [  OK  ]
09:18.32seldevWaiting for zap to come online...OK
09:18.32seldevLoading zaptel hardware modules: wctdm24xxp.
09:18.32seldevRunning ztcfg:  ioctl(ZT_LOADZONE) failed: Invalid argument
09:18.33seldevNotice: Configuration file is /etc/zaptel.conf
09:18.35seldevline 268: Unable to register tone zone 'ch'
09:18.37seldev<PROTECTED>
09:18.57seldevzaptel version is 1.4.7.1
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09:21.54seldevmy /etc/zaptel.conf:
09:21.54seldevfxoks=1
09:21.54seldevloadzone=ch
09:21.54seldevdefaultzone=ch
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09:23.56seldevat which point i should have at least a dialtone when i pickup my phone? after loading kernel modules or after starting asterisk?
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09:49.31farahanyone knows how to monitor the command "iax2 show netstats" using SNMP
09:49.38farahplz i need some help
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09:50.51mort_gibfarah; TK had a point yesterday
09:51.10tzafrir_laptopseldev, you need a newer version of zaptel, IIRC
09:52.14tzafrir_laptophttp://docs.tzafrir.org.il/#_past_incompatibilities
09:53.09tzafrir_laptopAlternatively, build asterisk vs. 1.4.7.1's zaptel.h
09:53.19tzafrir_laptopor do you use asterisk 1.4.22 ?
09:53.58hi365is it posible to send the vm email to more than one address?
09:54.13tzafrir_laptoperr.. it's pure zaptel
09:54.45tzafrir_laptophi365, you can always use an alias in your mta configuration...
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09:55.23hi365tzafrir_laptop: without that?
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10:05.32djinhi
10:05.43suvirhi
10:05.57djinDoes anyone use SNOM (300) with Freeswitch?
10:06.04seldevtzafrir_laptop thanks. that resolved the error message on zaptel start but still no dialtone
10:06.38djincalling from SNOM to other SIP (soft-)phones works by default, but calling to SNOM fails.
10:06.44tzafrir_laptopdjin, ask on #freeswitch (if there is indeed such a channel) ?
10:06.50djinhaha
10:07.00djinsorry, wrong window :)
10:08.24tzafrir_laptopseldev, what version of asterisk do you have?
10:08.34tzafrir_laptopand what did you actually do?
10:08.42seldev1.4.21.2
10:08.46farahanyone knows how to monitor the command "iax2 show netstats" using SNMP plz?
10:13.01seldevI've got a TDM410 card with one FXS module on socket 1. On port 1 I have an analog phone. It's a modified Trixbox system.
10:13.43seldevmy zapata.conf looks like this
10:14.07seldevlanguage=de
10:14.07seldevsignalling=fxo_ks
10:14.07seldevcontext=Internal
10:14.07seldevchannel => 1
10:14.37seldevkernel modules zaptel and wctdm24xxp are loaded
10:15.27seldevin modprobe.conf I've got the "line install wctdm24xxp /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install wctdm24xxp opermode=SWITZERLAND fxshonormode=1 boostringer=1 fastringer=1 && /sbin/ztcfg" as this was mentioned in a forum
10:16.31seldevmodule loading is successfull, asterisk loads zapata.conf, but no dialtone when I pickup the phone nor ringing when calling the extension
10:17.16seldevdo you need anything else?
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10:20.35BrokenNozeHi all, has anyone ever had a problem with 1.4.2 and music on hold cutting in half way through a call?
10:22.10tzafrir_laptopseldev, do you see anterisk complaining about a failed TONEZONE ioctl in its logs?
10:23.40seldevno complaining
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10:26.46seldevtzafir_laptop should there be a channel entry on "zap show channels" ?
10:30.35seldevtzafrir_laptop there is a supply voltage on the line as I can hear dtmf tones when i press the phone keys
10:31.24tzafrir_laptopseldev, what's the output of 'zap show channels' ?
10:37.22seldevtzafrir_laptop it shows only the title row =>   Chan Extension  Context         Language   MOH Interpret
10:38.10tzafrir_laptopwhat is the output of:  cat /proc/zaptel/1
10:38.45seldevSpan 1: WCTDM/0 "Wildcard TDM410P Board 1" (MASTER)
10:38.45seldev<PROTECTED>
10:38.45seldev<PROTECTED>
10:38.46seldev<PROTECTED>
10:38.46seldev<PROTECTED>
10:38.46seldev<PROTECTED>
10:48.13tzafrir_laptopany chance you got the wrong channel?
10:48.36tzafrir_laptopwhat is the output of: genzaptelconf -l
10:49.53seldev### Span 1: WCTDM/0 "Wildcard TDM410P Board 1" (MASTER)
10:49.53seldev1 FXS
10:49.53seldev# channel 2, WCTDM, no module.
10:49.53seldev# channel 3, WCTDM, no module.
10:49.53seldev# channel 4, WCTDM, no module.
10:51.28seldevtzafrir_laptop where do you mean I could have gotten the wrong channel? zapata.conf?
10:52.14tzafrir_laptopno. it's correct
10:52.43tzafrir_laptopcan you try 'zap restart' in asterisk? If that doesn't help: restart asterisk
10:52.57seldev<PROTECTED>
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10:53.31seldevrestart when convenient
10:53.31seldevWaiting for inactivity to perform restart
10:53.31seldevselphone-01*CLI>
10:53.31seldevDisconnected from Asterisk server
10:53.33joelsolankijql: Hi
10:54.11joelsolanki[Nov 26 05:48:45] WARNING[24426]: chan_sip.c:3036 sip_call: No audio format found to offer
10:54.27seldevstill no channels tzafrir_laptop
10:54.32joelsolankithis seems to be codec problem. i am trying to transcode. let me present the scenario
10:54.51joelsolankiipphone --> asterisk1 --> asterisk2 --> asterisk3
10:55.05tzafrir_laptopseldev, look for errors in the asterisk logs
10:55.13tzafrir_laptoplook for chan_zap.c there
10:55.25joelsolankiipphone send ulaw and asterisk1 accepts ulaw and forwards to asterisk2 and asterisk must do transcoding and send the g729 call to asterisk3
10:55.39joelsolankibut i am getting error [Nov 26 05:48:45] WARNING[24426]: chan_sip.c:3036 sip_call: No audio format found to offer on asterisk2 box
10:55.52joelsolankilet me pastebin the configs
10:56.18angryuserjoelsolanki: are you able to transcode on asterisk2 g729 ? check locally
10:57.33joelsolankiangryuser: how do i check locally ?
10:57.54joelsolankiyes i think i can connect eyebeam to asterisk2 and see if it does transcoding
10:57.59angryuserjoelsolanki: setup a peer with ulaw&alaw and call a peer with g729 forced
10:58.12joelsolankilet me do that and also you the configs of all boxes
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10:58.24seldevtzafrir_laptop yes there's an error
10:58.25seldev[Nov 26 11:55:56] ERROR[24453] chan_zap.c: Unable to load config zapata.conf
10:58.43tzafrir_laptopand before that?
10:58.55tzafrir_laptopls -l /etc/asterisk/zapata.conf
10:59.04chris`_astAsterisk 1.4.2 and g729 codecs, are there none bugs with that or am I just doing it wrong :P
10:59.21chris`_astRegistered 2 channels but when ever I make a sip > sip or sip > zap call, it complains about being out ofl icences.
10:59.33chris`_astasterisk cli show g729 shows both licences thoguh
11:00.33seldev[Nov 26 11:58:31] WARNING[24468] config.c: parse error: No category context for line 1 of /etc/asterisk/zapata.conf
11:00.33seldev[Nov 26 11:58:31] ERROR[24468] chan_zap.c: Unable to load config zapata.conf
11:00.49seldevthat would be the language entry
11:01.41joelsolankiangryuser: http://www.pastebin.ca/1267513
11:01.55joelsolankithis is the current config. let me check the transcoding locally too
11:02.01joelsolankiplz take a look at config
11:02.22seldevi commented out the first line now is the error on line 2
11:04.08tzafrir_laptopseldev, I guess you're missing '[channels]' at the top of zapata.conf
11:05.10seldevcorrect. i don't have such a line... I took the example on voip-info.org..
11:05.33joelsolankiangryuser: you are right asterisk2 itself is not able to transcode
11:05.39seldevselphone-01*CLI> zap restart
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11:06.03seldevlooks much better tzafrir_laptop. thanks a lot so far.
11:06.22joelsolankiangryuser: you there ?
11:07.13angryuserjoelsolanki: yes sec
11:08.10joelsolankiok
11:08.27angryuserjoelsolanki: so check the licenses on asterisk2 box
11:09.33joelsolankihmm.
11:09.46joelsolankilet me checkout what happend. maybe something went during restore
11:12.31chris`_ast[Nov 26 11:13:43] WARNING[16232] codec_g729a.c: out of G.729 decoder licenses
11:12.31chris`_ast[Nov 26 11:13:43] WARNING[16232] translate.c: g729tolin did not update samples 0
11:12.35chris`_astTheres 2 licences :(
11:13.22seldevtzafrir_laptop i have a dialtone but when i can only dial 1 digit then it hangs up
11:13.34seldevcalling the extension works like a charm
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11:46.11itguruI'm trying to configure outbound calls on a UK ISDN30e setup. incoming and outgoing calls work fine for local numbers, 0800, and international calls do not - any tips?
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12:04.49xrmx__hi, anybody knows if thre's a way to trace call flow from asterisk cli?
12:05.42tzafrir_laptopwhat type of call?
12:05.48xrmx__incoming call
12:06.05tzafrir_laptopwhat channel? sip? iax? zap?
12:06.23tzafrir_laptopAnd what type of "flow"?
12:06.37xrmx__iax, i mean the call arrive but i hear a "Goodbye" prompt
12:06.49xrmx__and phones don't ring
12:06.58tzafrir_laptop(geenrally I believe that the answer is "yes" if I guess your meaning correctly)
12:07.34tzafrir_laptopgenerally with verbosity level 3 you also see dialplan flow
12:08.03tzafrir_laptopin logger.conf you should set the 'console' to show 'verbose' messages
12:08.12tzafrir_laptop(see 'logger show channels')
12:09.31xrmx__yeah, that's it , thanks :)
12:09.58xrmx__call are going to voicemail
12:10.05xrmx__s/call/calls
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12:35.34jyfletcherI have a sip client that works, but the Status line in "sip show peer xxxx" is always UNKNOWN.  I have set debug for the number and see the registration and it looks ok to me...
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12:39.44farahanyone knows how to monitor the command "iax2 show netstats" using SNMP plz
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12:46.49Meawhello, im testing out asterisk in a vps but i got some errors in compiling it , im following this link http://www.vsppanel.com/gettingstarted_installing.html
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12:51.01DavieyMeaw: what errors?
12:52.25Meawin the link they are compiling asterisk addons first, maybe i should compile asterisk first then asterisk addons?
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12:59.56AkiyukiIs there a way to set a asterisksoundsdir variable?
13:00.12AkiyukiSo I dont have to Playback(/var/lib/asterisk/sounds/foo) each time
13:00.57Meawah i compiled asterisk first and it works
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13:11.09Meawwhen i start asterisk : /usr/sbin/safe_asterisk
13:11.17Meawi got an error says /usr/sbin/safe_asterisk: line 130: /dev/tty9: Permission denied
13:11.38Meawany other way to start it?
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13:12.40AkiyukiTry /etc/init.d/asterisk start
13:13.20Meawstill getting permission denied /usr/sbin/safe_asterisk
13:13.43AkiyukiWhat user are you executing this ass?
13:14.01Meawroot
13:14.05Akiyukiouch
13:14.07AkiyukiI'm not sure then.
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13:17.41*** topic/#asterisk by [TK]D-Fender -> Asterisk: The Open Source PBX and Telephony Platform (asterisk.org) -=- Asterisk 1.6.0.1 (2008/10/09), 1.4.22 (2008/10/02), *-Addons 1.6.0 (2008/10/02), 1.4.7 (2008/06/04), dahdi-linux-complete 2.0.0+2.0.0 (2008/10/02), Libpri 1.4.7 (2008/08/05) -=- Related channels: #asterisknow #asterisk-gui #switchvox #freepbx #asterisk-commits #asterisk-bugs #asterisk-dev
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13:21.29feedshi, what does this mean: Unable to install capabilities. <-- It prints when I try to run asterisk as user asteriskserver, when he is in the group asterisk and he's owner of all the * files, except /etc/asterisk, which he can access and /usr/share/asterisk . Why is this happening?
13:21.52feedsand he's runuser in asterisk.conf ...
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13:26.28feedssomeone?
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13:27.54donnibhi all, i have a problem with a phone which when i call the other party picks up but the call fails. see http://pastebin.com/d4b7d45d4 around line 381 to 400.
13:29.19donnibhere is the settings for that particular extension. http://pastebin.com/d8966dc4
13:29.35donnibthe call i make is between two extensions
13:30.17donnibi can make calls fine between a hard phone and a xlite client but problems between hardware and a specific hardware client (Linksys SPA942)
13:30.47donnibanyone have an idea what is wrong ?
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13:38.39[TK]D-Fenderdonnib: Provide * CLI output with SIP debug, and show the config of BOTH sides.
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13:42.50rwaitegod i have a headache today
13:43.40donnib@[TK]D-Fender: here is the CLI output of a call i made now. i am calling from 100 to 110 http://pastebin.com/d2edf9266
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13:46.32[TK]D-Fenderdonnib: Where are these 2 phones located relative to *?
13:46.45donnib@[TK]D-Fender: the config on the asterisk side for 100 is http://pastebin.com/d8966dc4. the config for 110 is : http://i36.tinypic.com/210hz5c.jpg. the debug on 110 is : http://pastebin.com/d4b7d45d4
13:47.05donnibthey are in two different parts of the world. one in india and one in Denmark
13:48.14[TK]D-Fenderdonnib: Well they both seem to list a PRIVATE IP, so unless you're VPN'd then you did not configure them for NAT properly.
13:48.21donnibi know there is almost 400ms latency between these two extensions
13:48.30donnibthey are on a vpn
13:48.39donnibthey run on same network
13:48.48[TK]D-FenderRetransmitting #5 (no NAT) to 10.115.91.36:5060:
13:49.00donnibyes that is correct
13:49.02[TK]D-Fenderdonnib: then its another routing / firewall issue
13:49.16donnibbut why on that particular phone
13:49.34donnibas mentioned it works fine calling other clients which uses x-lite client
13:49.38[TK]D-Fenderdonnib: Go examine his environment closer.  test with a remote softphone
13:49.49[TK]D-Fenderdonnib: at that specific location?
13:51.35donnibwhat to you mean a specific location ? in the same offices i have many users using x-lite. they all work but this hardphone does not work. all users are same place physically
13:51.45donniband running on same connection
13:52.15[TK]D-Fenderdonnib: thst precise location.
13:52.22donnibi have run out of ideas
13:52.34donnibyou mean the plug on the wall ?
13:52.48[TK]D-Fenderdonnib: you have other users in that same office that work ok?
13:52.56donnibi can access the web server for the phone
13:53.02donnibYes but they all use x-lite
13:53.12donnibbesides this one i have problems with
13:53.34[TK]D-Fenderdonnib: Web doesn't prove that other things will works, but if you have X-Lite running on their network, then you should be OK.
13:53.44donnibthe phone rings. it's registered in asterisk but when they pick up then it doesn't work
13:54.04donnibyes x-lite works fine on that network.
13:54.31donniball users are set to not use NAT since we all are running on the same network
13:55.58donnibdoes the debug from the phone tell you anything ? i can see there are some Internal server error and some 487 errors
13:56.13[TK]D-Fenderdonnib: Ok, I'm not sure at this point... if its VPN'd and X-Lite works from that location, There must be something wrong with your config of that phone
13:56.18donnibdon't know if u get something from that
13:56.28[TK]D-Fenderdonnib: what the debug tells me is that packets go out, but never come back.
13:57.08coppicewhat do you think they are? boomerangs?
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13:58.28donnibi am looking into the manual for SPA-942 to see if i did something wrong
13:59.13[TK]D-Fendercoppice: g'day
13:59.38coppicei guess I fostered such a response
13:59.57[TK]D-Fendercoppice: Fosters.... Australian for beer!
14:00.55coppiceFosters - like making love in a punt
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14:01.40[TK]D-Fendercoppice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3RYHKWXIwI
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14:02.51DovidTK: Just noticed that you got mod status. Congrats
14:04.21coppice[TK]D-Fender: pointing to the "foreplay" commercial would have been a better response to my quip
14:04.21[TK]D-FenderDovid: Been about a year now.
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14:04.59[TK]D-Fendercoppice: Didn't want to waste too much time browsing, and its been 5 years since I've had standard television and seen those commercials
14:05.20coppiceDovid: he finally passed the Mr Grumpy test, and qualified
14:05.25Dovid;)
14:05.46[TK]D-Fendercoppice: Not entirely inaccurate ;)
14:09.47DovidWhen i script stuff I put in on top the date created and time for future refrence. here is the last one that I did: Created on 11-25-2008 @ 0939 By (a very tired and grumpy.....) Dovid
14:10.38coppiceone offs don't count. you need to establish a track record
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14:11.08hi365Dovid: hello
14:11.21Dovidhi hi
14:11.33hi365Dovid: do you work for Moshe M?
14:11.38Dovidhi365: hi
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14:12.11Doviddefine work ;)
14:12.24hi365oh, stop it!
14:13.21coppicework is what you're doing when you're not having fun
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14:14.14freezeyquestion.. i am about to try and load the RingList.xml file to my cisco 7940's this file only has 1 custom ringtone that i wanted to try.. is this going to overwrite all the current default ringers the phone came with?
14:16.47DovidTK: I no longer think for myself and actually *try* to follow manuals. installing Vicidialr and they have exten => _*NXXNXXXXXX*3429 trying to figure out if the * has any sagnifigance as far as asterisk is concerned or just the way they have it ? They also have exten => _**3429 which i do not see any X so why the leading _. any guess ? I want to write it **the correct way** but want to make sure they do not signify anything to Asterisk
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14:23.11[TK]D-FenderDovid: You're right..... you no longer think.
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14:23.33[TK]D-FenderDovid: Not too much further before bottom now!
14:23.45DovidTK: Thinking gets me in to too much trouble
14:24.10[TK]D-FenderDovid: Lets see how this "not thinking" thing pans out...
14:24.20Dovidso far real bad
14:25.04[TK]D-FenderDovid: Rock.  Hard place.  Hard place.  Rock.  Good, now we've passed the formailties and you can continue on to greater suffering
14:26.48donnibhmm....tried to look in the manual and everything is setup correct
14:27.19mikealeonetti[TK]D-Fender: what do you do for a living?
14:27.21donnibi even compared all the settings between the two phones. they are both Linksys and everyting is exactly the same
14:27.45[TK]D-Fendermikealeonetti: I am the IT dept for a non-tech company
14:28.17mikealeonetti[TK]D-Fender: anyone I know?
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14:29.09[TK]D-Fendermikealeonetti: Small place, very unlikely
14:29.17mikealeonetti[TK]D-Fender: why asterisk?
14:29.25[TK]D-Fendermikealeonetti: meaning?
14:30.10mikealeonetti[TK]D-Fender: why chose to become proficient in Asterisk, or act like it if you're not
14:30.25[TK]D-Fendermikealeonetti: Because I LIKE it maybe?
14:30.45[TK]D-Fendermikealeonetti: And enough to get my own company to switch to it when we moved, perhaps.
14:30.59[TK]D-Fendermikealeonetti: and the fact I am an * consultant on the side as well....
14:31.37mikealeonetti[TK]D-Fender: interesting
14:32.20mikealeonettiantikkkx
14:32.24mikealeonettierr
14:33.19jayteegood god! I could have written a Gui based IDE, compiler and library in the amount of time Visual Studio SP1 takes to install.
14:34.21telnettechjayte: is that the Visual dialplan?
14:36.19[TK]D-Fender... extrapolation FAIL
14:36.41jayteetelnettech, no the Visual Dialplan is something else.
14:36.54freezeyi am using the P0S3-08-2-00.sb2 is it possible to even force a ringtone onto the phones if this file is being used?
14:37.02feedswhat does the astdb file in the lib directory hold?
14:37.18jayteefeeds, whatever data you wish to put in it
14:37.25feedsand how?
14:37.31jaytee~book
14:37.31jbotwell, book is probably Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF at http://www.asteriskdocs.org --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com or see ~buybook
14:37.33jayteethat's how
14:37.58feeds... thanks ...
14:39.58jayteefeeds, pages 160-162 show you some examples of it's uses. it's more of a "flat" file database, not a true relational database but useful nonetheless.
14:41.37[TK]D-Fenderfeeds: "core show function DB"
14:41.48[TK]D-Fenderfeeds: CLI "help db"
14:42.28[TK]D-Fenderfeeds: and for the quickest start to what it holds "database show"
14:42.39[TK]D-Fenderfeeds: CLI "help database" <- correction
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15:04.01VoipForcesHi, anyone is awaya of a NVFaxDetect port for asterisk 1.6 ?
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15:07.36jcapeMy apologies if this is a FAQ: I'm trying to accept an inbound FAX on a PRI, and then forward it back out via an FXS card to a real fax machine, using Digium single-port T1 and 8-port AEX800 FXS. Are there any writeups on this, and/or what gotchas may exist?
15:07.50SuPrSluGcan you use asterisk to route traffic to another asterisk box? kind of like a proxy. need to decommission a box and need something in front * until the other is ready.
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15:09.09SuPrSluGit would do nothing other than pass request to pstn a lucent box
15:09.52[TK]D-FenderSuPrSluG: * is not a proxy
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15:10.37[TK]D-Fenderjcape: Any fax risks instability.  EC should disable itself on detection of the tones.
15:10.48VoipForcesSuPrSluG: Have done it with a Meridian system. Put the asterisk in front and tie the asterisk to the legacy PBX wia a T1.
15:10.54SuPrSluGopensips only way right. i thought that. the boss wants to decom and this didin't sound right
15:11.34jcape[TK]D-Fender: Well, right now our faxes are coming in over the PRI and getting redirected backout and over some inbound POTS lines (not my setup)
15:11.51SuPrSluGVoipForces:it would look like Lucent TNT -> asterisk -> asterisk1 and asterisk2
15:11.53jcapeI'd like to have it just run through Asterisk if possible
15:12.10[TK]D-Fenderjcape: it is, though tiny timing issues etc risk losing faxes.
15:12.14[TK]D-FenderpcYMMV
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15:12.43VoipForcesSuPrSluG: What is your current setup and what would you like to achieve?
15:12.53SuPrSluGyes
15:12.59jameswf[TK]D-Fender: you know the reliability of zaptel and tone detection
15:13.04SuPrSluGsorry
15:13.33SuPrSluGVoipForces:it would look like Lucent TNT -> asterisk1 and asterisk2 (current)
15:13.37jameswfoften the that detection only works on a fluke
15:13.49[TK]D-Fenderjcape: Make sure to disable EC for the TM ports you're going to sue and on bridge
15:14.08SuPrSluGVoipForces:it would look like Lucent TNT -> asterisk -> asterisk1 and asterisk2  ( needed until old boxes decommissioned)
15:14.10[TK]D-Fenderjameswf: Fluke makes great diagnostic tools :)
15:14.26jcape[TK]D-Fender:  TM ports?
15:14.33[TK]D-FenderTDM
15:14.35VoipForcesSuPrSluG: which is your old box?
15:14.42[TK]D-FenderYour analog ones with the fax machines on it
15:15.17jcapeSo disable EC on the analog ports *and* the PRI, or just the analog?
15:15.25jcapeIs there a writeup somewhere, or is that something I'm contributing later?
15:15.28SuPrSluGVoipForces: right now it goes from a lucent tnt to asterisk
15:16.36SuPrSluGthey want something in the middle until they decide to roll over to a new architecture
15:17.13[TK]D-Fenderjcape: There is no writeup.  This is 2 values in zapata.conf / chan_dahdi.conf
15:17.31[TK]D-Fenderjcape: It ain't Raw-Cat Science
15:17.47jcapeOK, voip-info suggests this is some dark art.
15:18.02jcapeAnd seeing as I'm going to be begging for money to do it, I want to know it works...
15:18.05jcapeThanks
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15:20.33[TK]D-Fenderjcape: Depends on the stability of your server, tmiing, * / zaptel versions, CPU load, BUS load, etc
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15:21.11VoipForcesSuPrSluG: Well, you can configure your asterisk server for forward all calls from one box to the other though an iax2 trunk.
15:22.01freezeyfor some reason when i create the RINGLIST.DAT the phone doesnt take it
15:22.51SuPrSluGVoipForces: seems kinda odd going sip->iax->sip
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15:23.33SuPrSluG[TK]D-Fender: is opensips the way to go for this/
15:24.17[TK]D-FenderSuPrSluG: Is all the auth setup on the dest *?
15:24.37SuPrSluGyes it
15:24.45SuPrSluGis in production
15:24.46[TK]D-FenderSuPrSluG: Is it local?
15:24.52SuPrSluGyes
15:24.56SuPrSluGin house
15:25.27[TK]D-FenderSuPrSluG: Considered just assigning it another IP interface on the LAN?
15:25.38[TK]D-FenderSuPhave it take over the old IP as well.
15:26.03VoipForcesSuPrSluG: I do it all the time. Here is a sample config: PRI <--> asterisk1 <--- IAX2 over internet ---> asterisk2 <--SIP phones-->
15:26.17VoipForcesSuPrSluG: SIP phones are also connected to the asterisk1
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15:26.47VoipForcesSuPrSluG: Plus on the asterisk2 I have an ATA on which a fax is connected and I can fax though asterisk2, asterisk1 via the PRI
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15:37.24freezeySince i already built the phones using the P0S3-08-2-00.loads for the sip do i have to reset the phones in order to push the ringtones? i couldnt imagine having to do that but does anybody have any ideas?
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15:40.31flohackHi! I'm trying to login a queue member at the touch of a button (no phone involved) using the Originate AMI action. I'm establishing a new channel from Local/dummy@dummy/n (which does an Answer()) to the extension the agent would call when logging in. Unforunately the call from Originate always terminates at the first GotoIf. Can someone please have a look at the debug log at http://pastebin.com/m61d0bd1b (debug log and the relevant dialplan
15:40.31flohacklogic).
15:46.58jameswfhttp://www.edgepbx.cn/shop/index.php?controller=review_info&review_id=18 <- $450 and you dont get a case
15:47.40flohackAny ideas concerning my Originate problem?
15:50.05farahanyone confortable with the command "exec" in the snmpd.conf?
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15:52.35[TK]D-Fenderflohack: Forget debug and somehow you felt you didn't have to show us this exten, or your Originate contents... Local/dummy@dummy
15:54.45flohack[TK]D-Fender: Sorry, give me a second please
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15:56.21SiberAIRanyone have a particular basis towards and SIP trunk/DID providers in the US?
16:00.45freezey[TK]D-Fender: you usually always have the answer to things... howcome when i reboot the phone its not picking up my RINGLIST.DAT... i checked the binary file of the .loads and i do see in there that it specifies ringtones.. i am just wondering why it wont grab
16:00.49jameswf~itsplist-us
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16:01.20tzafrir_laptoplikes the name chan_mob (from asterisk-users mailing list post)
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16:01.25SiberAIRthanks jbot
16:01.27flohackthe dummy context is simply:
16:01.27flohack[ Context 'dummy' created by 'pbx_config' ]
16:01.27flohack<PROTECTED>
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16:01.44flohackHere is the action:
16:01.46flohackaction: Originate
16:01.48flohackactionid: 4329094_49#
16:01.50flohackcallerid: "6001" <6001>
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16:01.52flohackasync: true
16:01.54flohackpriority: 1
16:01.56flohackcontext: agents
16:01.58flohackexten: 2001ag1
16:02.00chuckHow do I get that httpd enabled for configuring asterisk?
16:02.00flohackchannel: Local/dummy@dummy/n
16:02.01tzafrir_laptop~pb
16:02.02jbot[~pb] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste, or , http://bin.cakephp.org/
16:02.02flohacktimeout: 30
16:02.06flohack[TK]D-Fender: anything else I can provide? asterisk is v. 1.4.22 BTW.
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16:04.20farahanyone confortable with the command "exec" in the snmpd.conf?
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16:15.53flohack[TK]D-Fender: Is there a channel log? My connection (UMTS, AARRGGHHH) dropped
16:18.21flohack[TK]D-Fender: The last thing I saw was my message specifying the Originate action
16:18.35[TK]D-Fenderflohack: Please pastebin the bits I requested and be complete
16:20.55flohack[TK]D-Fender: Sure
16:21.58flohack[TK]D-Fender: Here is the second pastebin: http://pastebin.com/m449aa7da
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16:23.08[TK]D-Fenderflohack: That will start your originate and then HANGUP almost instantly on it
16:23.25[TK]D-Fenderflohack: because the channel you are calling ends immediately after the answer
16:24.07flohack[TK]D-Fender: Ok, what would I have to place in the dummy context to keep the channel up until the other end (the extension I'm calling) hangs up?
16:24.35[TK]D-Fenderflohack: Something that obviously keeps the local channel GOING.
16:24.47[TK]D-Fenderflohack: Think on this...
16:29.26flohack[TK]D-Fender: Sorry, but I'm stuck here. The only thing I could think of is a goto loop with a wait(xx) in between...
16:30.11[TK]D-Fenderflohack: And did you go and do that?
16:30.39flohack[TK]D-Fender: Not yet, I usually think and confirm before going aheas :-)
16:30.43flohackahead
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16:31.37[TK]D-Fenderflohack: Well that would keep that channel going, now wouldn't it?  Since you are triggering this externally, what you would seem to want is the effectively jsut run some dialplan apps and having a local channel on the other end from an Originate is the only real way to do it.
16:31.45[TK]D-Fenderflohack: This would be the way for this.
16:32.05flohack[TK]D-Fender: Ok, thanks a lot! I'll have a try!
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16:32.33[TK]D-Fenderflohack: SO, yes, just having the Local channel "wait" a bit is what you want, though I doubt you want or need it to stay up very long.  pick a certain limit to prevent something from hanging and you should be fine.
16:32.57flohack[TK]D-Fender: Alright, I'll keep that in mind
16:32.58[TK]D-Fenderflohack: If you're looking to use it for an auto logon/logonff, etc, then I'd say 10s ought to do it
16:33.29[TK]D-Fenderflothe context you're dumping them into for that exten will probably run its course far faster and end the call by itself
16:34.25flohack[TK]D-Fender: Thanks!
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16:35.46|Torg|can someone give me some help with a x100p fxo that is always offhook?
16:35.52flohack[TK]D-Fender: That did the trick!
16:36.15flohack[TK]D-Fender: I'll put it on http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+Manager+API+Action+Originate
16:36.42[TK]D-Fenderflohack: Sure, why not...
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16:49.35Kattydumb question
16:49.42Kattywhy are sip trunks cheaper than getting lines from AT&T?
16:51.28rwaitetrying to start an economics debate, are we?
16:52.00drmessanoKatty: copper
16:52.26Kattyi'm just curious.
16:52.31drmessanoActually
16:52.52drmessanoThink of it like Gas prices
16:52.56rwaiteKatty: probably to offset the cost of having physical "lines"
16:53.01drmessanoWe are used to gas costing X
16:53.19carrarthe equipment that runs a SIP trunk less expensive, but the service itself is cheaper and simpler to operate
16:53.32carrarfrom:
16:53.33carrarhttp://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=167567
16:53.39drmessanoSo if I came out with newgas tomorrow, and I could see it for $0.75 and it worked in the same cars
16:53.41carrargoogle is your friend!
16:53.46rwaiteit's all bush's fault, kerry would've lowered the prices!
16:53.47drmessanosell
16:54.10drmessanoAT&T would still be stuck with their legacy pricing structure
16:54.17rwaitethe price system is hard, let's go shopping
16:54.45drmessanoYou don't just wack off the 75% of overprice you have been adding for years and not collapse horribly
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16:55.35rwaiteyour spending will always expand to accommodate for your income, in other words
16:55.39drmessanoSo AT&T will keep the legacy customers, and as they start to migrate away at a faster rate, they will slash in response.. eventually their pricing will even out
16:56.08Kattythanks (=
16:56.40rwaitei have a question ... why is it still called at&t
16:56.54rwaitedo they still do telegraphs?
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16:57.35drmessanoBecause if you're gonna sell the same service you have been for the last 100 years at the same inflated price, keeping the same name helps with the price recognition
16:58.12rwaitewell, truly, prices are based upon what people are willing to pay
16:58.36rwaitetheir prices are no more inflated than my local milk company's, or wonder bread's
16:58.50drmessanoNot true
16:59.01[TK]D-Fenderrwaite: Wonderbread is greatly inflated.  "host" is the future!
16:59.10[TK]D-Fenderprays
16:59.19SiberAIRhrm
16:59.31SiberAIRanyone know where to get a grandsteam 286 ATA for less than voipsupply wants?
16:59.47rwaiteVery true. If you're in a room with 99 others, and I walk in with a card full of milk bottles, and ask for 10 dollars a piece, if in the end enough people pay that price to maximise my profits - the price has been set
17:00.02drmessanorolls eyes
17:00.23rwaiteIf not, it will go up, or down. Can't know until you do it.
17:00.55drmessanoI think Katty's questions was reference to what makes AT&T's pricing so much higher and not "Because"
17:01.02rwaiteI know :)
17:01.13rwaiteI agree with you, for the most part
17:01.32Kattygrins
17:01.33|Torg|AT&T or more exactly the Bells sell many lines at a profit and quite a few at a loss.  You actually PAY for that loss in the forms orf rual tax fees.  And it has EVERYTHING to do with copper, or more exactly what the proders refer to as the "last mile" problem
17:01.36Kattyis staying out of this debate.
17:01.44|Torg|the prices have more to do with the PUC then anything else
17:02.13rwaitelike I said, price is a complicated concept. and then you get into cost...
17:02.44drmessano"The Bells"?
17:02.47drmessanoYou mean both of them?
17:02.54|Torg|Bell south, pacbel, swbell, etc
17:03.14|Torg|they still operate as seperate companies, but realistcly yes I mean both of them
17:03.28jameswf~simon
17:03.29jbotThat was utterly and completely mind numbingly painful I would rather debug windows
17:03.29drmessanoNo, actually, they are all AT&T now
17:03.38drmessanoAT&T + Verizon
17:03.40rwaiteI wonder, if the Iraq war had never happened, how much of the country could have been connected by fiber with the money since spent
17:03.49rwaiteDo you think everywhere?
17:04.02rwaiteAnd I'm speaking of the US, of course
17:04.12drmessanoNo
17:04.33rwaiteA great deal?
17:04.53jameswfrwaite: ZERO due to the fact if the money wasn't invested in Iraq the government would invest it in $200,000 pencils. we do not have a good history of spending on communications infrastructure
17:05.04drmessanoThe lack of connectivity in the US has nothing to do with a War.. It has more to due with an economy that was ripe with inbalance due to the greed of corporations run amok due to the republican government we had in place
17:05.04rwaiteHeh heh.
17:05.28rwaiteOh yes, I'm being purely technical here. AS if God came down and said "DO THIS"
17:05.52jameswfI imagine the money would be spent on a 4 lain bridge to hawaii
17:05.56jameswf*lane
17:06.00rwaiteI guess a clearer question would be, "how much do you suppose it would cost to connect every home, business, or 'location' in the US by fiber"
17:06.02drmessanoMandated competition may be communistist, but I don't mind saluting Czar Obama with my FiOS
17:06.13drmessanocommunistic
17:06.33drmessanoThink about it this way
17:06.37angryuseranyone from voiceroute here ?
17:06.37|Torg|like drmessano said, it has to do with a PUIC who controlls (well they think they do) pricing and lies that is told to hem about connectivity.  Fiber Optic cables to only densly populated affluent areas is one example.  Removing tarrifs on ISDN in favor of DSL is anoher
17:06.43jameswfto much fiber causes constipation
17:07.49drmessanoAT&T is pushing speeds that are 1/2 to 1/4 what cable is pushing, and somehow, they are providing us a "service".  So after putting up with their shitty, noisy dialup lines for years, they gave us slow, shitty internet access over the same copper
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17:08.10jameswfthe senate and congress is controlled by people who have assistants to do that computer voodoo they just dont get it so the government will not advance technology
17:08.13drmessanoThats how AT&T rolls
17:08.36rwaiteOk. Well, what if my goal today was to gather up as much money as possible and lay fiber myself. How much money do I have to gather up? Enough to pay off municipalities, etc, too.
17:08.45drmessanoHeres one for ya.. rwaite.. Since you're into the purely economic part of it
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17:09.07rwaitethey see me rollin, providing inferior telcom services
17:09.17jameswfhaiter
17:10.05jameswfAT&T is the future.... AT&T Bringing communications to the 20th century
17:10.17drmessanoDSL capable of providing me with bandwidth to carry ONE VoIP call over a vonage ATA would run $24.95, closer to $35 in the end.
17:10.23angryuseri was banned from voiceroute forums 'druid' for no reason ;(
17:10.31drmessanoVonage would run $32 a month total
17:10.38angryuseri claim justice! :)
17:10.51SiberAIRanyone here using voicepulse?
17:11.17drmessanoFor $67 a month I can have an unlimited telephone line brought into my house, with an ass of features that Bell is still making you buy packages to accomplish
17:11.49angryuserdrmessano: analog line ?
17:11.51drmessanoMy parents had unlimited local, unlimited long distance on ONE phone line from Bell for $90 a month
17:11.53rwaitetrue. but why do people pay that?
17:11.54drmessanoNo
17:12.02drmessanoRead up
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17:12.31rwaitelooks at clock. time for lunch :D
17:12.36angryuserhere in france we have 1€ unlimited sip account, which is nice
17:12.39drmessanoSo thats $23 a month more for AT&T to charge me for what they would supply with an ATA to my door over DSL
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17:14.02drmessanohang on, heres one better
17:14.14drmessano<drmessano> DSL capable of providing me with bandwidth to carry ONE VoIP call over a vonage ATA would run $24.95, closer to $35 in the end.
17:14.20|Torg|peopel pay that for ease, its why they buy bundlesd service.  If it is seen as easier they do it, even it is more exansive.  Take a product, raise the price 50% and five then a 25% "discount" it will be seen as somehow beter
17:14.27drmessano$24.95 was ALSO the price of the former AT&T callvantage service
17:14.43drmessanoSo AT&T would charge me $32 a month from one department for DSL
17:14.50drmessano$24.95 from another for Callvantage
17:15.09drmessanoThen to get similar service on an analog line, $90 from another department
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17:15.47drmessano$35 and $32 with taxes.. so about that $67
17:16.02jameswfQwest is offering like 24M DSL but not to my house...
17:16.02drmessanoSo yeah.. I could underprice AT&T by going with... AT&T
17:16.15drmessanoHow assinine is that..
17:20.40angryuserthat's why i am happy to be my own provider of internet ;)
17:21.06drmessanoNobody is their own provider of internet
17:21.13drmessanoIt all comes from somewhere
17:21.25angryuseryes but the next hop is me
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17:22.36angryuserneed to go bye all
17:22.59Alan_HicksHowdy.  Do I really need to compile wanpipe in order to use a Sangoma analogue card? I was in here the other day and I could have sworn some one told me the drivers were included with zaptel.
17:24.43[TK]D-FenderAlan_Hicks: Yes you need Wanpipe
17:24.59[TK]D-FenderAlan_Hicks: And what else do your Rice Crispies say to you? :p
17:25.33Alan_HicksThanks.  I could have sworn it was actually you that told me otherwise, but I guess it could have been Snap, Crackle, or Pop. :^)
17:25.57Alan_Hicksstarts writing a SlackBuild script for wanpipe.
17:26.02SiberAIRhey [TK]D-Fender who do you use as a SIP trunk?
17:26.41[TK]D-FenderSiberAIR: I don't.  My clients use a mix of les.net , unlimitel.ca , etc
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17:31.20SiberAIRah canada
17:31.21SiberAIRhrm
17:31.26SiberAIRi looked up voicepulse prices
17:31.32SiberAIRnot bad but i think i can find better
17:32.34VoipForcesAnyone knows if there is supposed to be a change in the system command between 1.4 and 1.6?
17:32.51VoipForcesMy system calls were working in 1.4 and don't work in 1.6...
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17:38.10[TK]D-FenderVoipForces: changes.txt upgrade.txt "core show application system"
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17:48.41jameswfclassic: http://trixbox.org/forums/trixbox-forums/open-discussion/please-vote-make-trixbox-support-chat-room
17:49.26jameswfVoipForces: is probably one of those ( , to |) people
17:50.02jameswfdislexic
17:50.21[TK]D-Fenderjameswf: sucksess :p
17:51.03jameswfI am proud to announce I am in full remission and have best anorexia
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17:51.45jameswf*beat
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18:03.50KattyQwell: :>
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18:15.30Alan_HicksBoy I don't like compiling these sangoma drivers....
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18:16.18jameswfthen don't :)
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18:16.30Alan_Hickshehehe.  no choice in the matter.
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18:16.48Alan_HicksFor some reason ./Setup isn't honoring --builddir for /etc/wanpipe.
18:17.17jameswfif you weren;t using sangoma you wouldn;t have to worry about it :)
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18:26.58Alan_HicksWhat the hell?
18:27.06[TK]D-FenderAlan_Hicks: it prompts your during the process anyways...
18:28.28Alan_Hicks[TK]D-Fender: Yeah, but I'm using --silent in my build-script to create a Slackware package.
18:29.01Alan_HicksShould work fine as root, but I'm building as a mortal user right now to prevent borking my box.
18:29.01[TK]D-FenderAlan_Hicks: then be a good little masochist and stop whining :p
18:29.13Alan_Hicks[TK]D-Fender: hehehe
18:29.35Alan_HicksBasically, it does honor builddir for /etc/wanpipe... *if* it finds a currently existing /etc/wanpipe directory.
18:29.55Alan_HicksI think as root it will create this directory if it doesn't exist, but as a mortal user it couldn't.  Go figure.
18:30.22drmessanoAnyone here support 3COM NBX?
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18:39.48[TK]D-Fenderspays rwaite
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18:44.52donnibhey
18:45.13donnibanyone using a Linksys VoIP phone ? SPA-962 or SPA-942 ?
18:46.09scooby2941 and 942 here
18:46.51donnibdo you connect the ethernet cable to WAN ?
18:47.19donnib942 has both a PC and a WAN
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18:47.44StephenFWhen specifiying a new client * setup what kind of hardware do you guys recommend as far as servers go?
18:47.58StephenFany specific brands that work especially well with *?
18:47.58scooby2yes
18:48.08[TK]D-Fenderdonnib: Yes, you use the WAN
18:48.39scooby2most anything works
18:48.46donnib[TK]D-Fender: thx, trying to solve my problem from earlier
18:48.56donnib:(
18:49.00scooby2StephenF: we were using Dell but now use SuperMicro
18:49.10StephenFany specifc reason for the change?
18:49.38scooby2We could get two SuperMicros for the price of one Dell with 4 hour support
18:50.10StephenFhmm
18:50.21StephenFBeen happy with SuperMicro support?
18:50.36scooby2on site spare versus having to wait for Dell if something breaks
18:51.54scooby2there are many resellers out there. Most are very good support wise.
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18:54.57etfonhomeyscooby2, did you have any issues with the Dell's other than price?
18:55.03AkiyukiCarlos_PHX: You around?
18:55.17scooby2etfonhomey: not at all
18:56.00etfonhomeyscooby2, what model Dell were you using?  (or did you standardize on one?)
18:59.08scooby2PowerEdge 1850's we then bought two TE412p's (i think they are) and it caused the dells to crash. Tried them in a 1950 and they worked fine.
18:59.27AkiyukiPoweredge ftw
18:59.36sinelawhow can i do this? if a server goes down during a call, the call will be continued on another server
18:59.50Alan_Hicksjust builds his own servers and doesn't blame anyone else when they fail.
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19:00.28sinelawI mean, i want to have say two servers, with one handling the calls of the other if it fails
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19:00.46sinelawbtw, i don't really want, the client wants.
19:01.02scooby2yeah the TE412p. We have been moving to SuperMicro for all other servers so I showed the boss that one Dell w/ 24x7x365 4 hour support was almost exactly the same price as two supermicros. We lose money if our call center goes down.
19:01.42Alan_Hickssinelaw: I would think most of that could be accomplished using the linux-ha project, but I'm not sure on having the failover server seamlessly pick up calls in progress.
19:02.29Alan_HicksGetting it to take-over for all future calls should be a walk in the park though.
19:03.28scooby2switching the t1's is the problem I have found
19:04.06Alan_HicksI've only worked with analogue lines, so I can't help you there.
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19:05.47sinelawtheoretically there is no reason it shouldn't be possible to continue SIP calls
19:06.03sinelawbut theory and practice aren't really related
19:06.33scooby2in theory you should be able to keep recording calls after an atxfer
19:06.58lmadsenthere are open bugs about this very issue on the bug tracker
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19:07.20Alan_HicksLooks like a good place to start looking.
19:07.34lmadsenif you use Monitor() and start recording a call, then perform a SIP attended transfer, the recording continues, but my understanding is the reverse is true with MixMonitor()
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19:08.00KJ5TI am in the process of setting up special extensions so I can forward calls to my cellphone
19:08.32KJ5THowever, I can't figure out how to send caller ID information.  So that when a call is transferred it says something like "Asterisk"
19:08.46KJ5TSo I will actually answer if it is an important call and someone else transferred it to me.
19:09.10scooby2lmadsen: I know MixMonitor() does not work. I will have to try Monitor()
19:10.03lmadsenscooby2: I know Monitor() works (at least in my latest ABE release, although I'm pretty confident it'll be the exact same code in open source asterisk as well), and it doesn't stop recorded on a SIP attended transfer (even though I want it to in my scenario :))
19:13.06scooby2lmadsen: thanks
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19:16.26Katty[TK]D-Fender: great. next week we have a toshiba phone system meeting )=<
19:16.29VoipForcesFYI, the system command in 1.6 does not require escaping of comma and single quote like it used to be in 1.4
19:16.42Katty[TK]D-Fender: is this company TRYING to kill itself?! )=<
19:16.45[TK]D-FenderKatty: Dear God... you're working for WhoreCo
19:16.52Kattyyep
19:17.07Kattyi don't want to setup shitty toshiba systems
19:17.10Kattyor shitty samsung systems
19:17.15Kattywhy can't we just do asterisk?!
19:17.16[TK]D-FenderKatty: Why they'd practically bend over backwards for a customer!
19:17.22[TK]D-Fenderlooks around nervously
19:17.38Katty[TK]D-Fender: they'd sell a cheeseburger to the garden center next door if they could make a buck.
19:18.31DeeewayneO.O  I like cheeseburgers
19:19.15Kattycries over her fate.
19:19.25Kattythey're going to make me install analog systems
19:19.28Kattyi know it. i can feel it.
19:19.38DeeewayneKatty: you need a job in a zoo
19:19.39jayteemmmm, fried meat patty from hooved ungulate
19:19.47Kattymy spidersense is tingling )=
19:19.56Kattyjaytee: you hear that. i need a zoo job.
19:20.08KattyDeeewayne: but i already work with a bunch of monkies and asses.
19:20.25Deeewayne:-(
19:20.33jayteeKatty, we're a 5 person shop and I have to figure out how to get rid of our resident "village idiot" to make a vacancy first.
19:21.32Deeewaynelion's cage ?
19:21.58jayteebut as soon as there's an opening I'll give ya a shout out to get your resume in here.
19:22.36jayteeDeeewayne, I wouldn't foist bad meat like this guy on Mwangi or Shawmfa, they're nice lions. :-)
19:23.51Kattythanks jaytee, but i can't leave this area
19:23.56jayteeand Cila, Kisa and Roser, our Amur tigers are almost as picky eaters as my cats at home.
19:23.59Kattynot while my mom is suffering from Alzheimers.
19:24.13jayteeKatty, that's understandable
19:24.14Kattyi pray i'll be here another 40 years with her (=
19:24.17Alan_Hicksjaytee: Just go to his (her?) house and take the warning labels off everything.  Let evolution handle it for you.
19:24.34jayteeheheehee
19:25.41jayteeIt's very tough having a 40 something year old coworker with ADHD. And that's the Deluxe Version of ADHD.
19:27.10VoipForcesCarlos_PHX: currently faxing on 21 channels with asterisk 1.6
19:27.39jayteerecent studies of some of the cannabinoid family show that they slow the growth of tumors in the brain and the formation of the type of plaque on neurons that is thought to be the cause of Alzhiemer's.
19:28.04jayteeso maybe we shouldn't just "say no".
19:28.17jayteemaybe we should say, "Hell yeah!!!"
19:29.30Alan_HicksYou know, people that want to be able to legally use marijuana should just say "I want to be able to smoke marijuana in the privacy of my own home, just like I can drink a beer there."
19:29.30Alan_HicksThey would get a lot further than coming up with all these reasons other than getting high.
19:29.56jayteeAlan_Hicks, but that would mean we'd have to change to a form of government that fosters freedom and the right to pursue happiness.
19:30.22[TK]D-Fenderjaytee: Nah, that'd never work!
19:30.24Alan_Hicksjaytee: Don't worry.  The USA only has another 20 or 30 years before it collapses like a house of cards under the weight of its government.
19:30.29jayteeCapitalist oligarchies like this one are based on creating a climate of control, fear and depression in order to fuel consumer spending.
19:30.35Alan_HicksWhen that happens, vote for me. :^)
19:31.25jayteeI believe that America's only hope is in abandoning capitalism and democracy in favor of a benevolent dictatorship, with me as it's leader.
19:31.43Alan_HicksYeah, that'll never work.
19:31.53Alan_HicksI'd be a much better dictator. :^)
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19:33.50Carlos_PHXVoipForces: Cool!  Success!
19:34.02jayteefirst off, all telemarketers would be rounded up and sent to gulags, all liquor stores would be forced to remain open 24/7/365. McDonalds would be forced to offer the double quarter pound Big Mac and Taco Bell would be forced to bring back the Cheesy Gordita Crunch as a permanent menu choice.
19:34.39Alan_HicksSee, I told you I'd make a better dictator.
19:34.46VoipForcesso far it's steady. Had to struggle to get nvfacdetect to compile in 1.6 plus lost a good 2 hours because of the system escape change between 1.4 and 1.6
19:35.00jayteeand the SciFi channel would be forced to split into two channels..... Real SciFi and LameAssWrestling&GhostHuntingCrap
19:36.01Alan_HicksI'd write a new Constitution with term limits for Congressmen and Senators.  Senators would be appointed by the State legislatures. SCOTUS would have term limits too, and anyone found guilty of voting for a bill (even one that doesn't pass) that is found to be unconstitutional will be guilty of treason and hung from the neck until dead.
19:36.19Alan_HicksBut I fully support forcing the SciFi channel to split like that.  I'm behind you there 100%.
19:36.43jayteeoooooh, yeah. I'm starting to like the idea. Can I be one of your Capo De Tuti Capos?
19:36.52Alan_HicksYes.
19:37.03jayteeAll Hail Emperor Alan!!!!!
19:37.17Alan_HicksCongressmen get 4 two-year terms (don't have to be consequitive).
19:37.29Alan_HicksI'm flexible on having or not-having term limits for Senators.
19:37.54Alan_HicksI'd rather that Senators simply serve entirely at the will of the State legislatures and can be replaced for any reason or no reason at any time.
19:38.10jayteeterm limits and really cracking down on lobbyists would do a lot towards fixing this broken machine.
19:38.22Alan_HicksAlso, the dollar would be based entirely on the value of 1/100th of a troy ounce of gold.
19:38.55jayteeAlan, good idea. after all, most employees in America today are employees at will meaning their employer can can them for any reason whatsoever.
19:39.10Alan_HicksThe federal reserve could not print money it could not backup with gold, and the government would be banned from borrowing money except in time of war.  Also, the budget must be balanced or anyone holding an elected seat will never be elegible for re-election.
19:40.23Alan_HicksWanna build that bridge to no-where so you'll get re-elected by the people getting all that money?  Sure, as long as the budget is balanced that year. If it ain't, your pork-barrel spending just cost you your entire career.
19:40.56Alan_HicksOne of these days I'm gonna write that Constitution and put it up on the web somewhere.
19:41.21telnettechAlan: How many senators would you allow to serve? 1 per state? and if so, what if the senator voted for the balance budget? wouldnt you want to say that they are fiscally responsible and should be allowed to retrun?
19:41.37Alan_HicksAnd anyone accepting government aid would be ineligable to vote.
19:41.51jayteeI'm with you an all but the gold standard thing, while it sounds good to have money backed by something of real value instead of a "promise" or based on debt the idea of using gold is flawed. Russia could easily destabilize any other countries gold based economy by dumping vast reserves onto the global market.
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19:42.06Alan_Hickstelnettech: 2 per State.  I like having the Vice President cast the deciding vote if there's a tie.
19:42.06Nuggettelnet is eeeeeeevil!
19:42.54VoipForcesCarlos_PHX: 21 channels faxing and load average: 0.08, 0.10, 0.08
19:42.58Alan_Hicksjaytee: They could do the same thing by printing vast reserves of conterfeit US currency.
19:43.05telnettechnugget: how do you figure that telnet is evil
19:43.36jayteeNugget, telnet is a thing and therefore not evil in and of itself, it's only when wielded by someone unscrupulous and malicious that it becomes a "tool" of evil.
19:43.47NuggetI'm one of those openbsd, neckbeard "encrypt your swap" freaks.
19:43.53Alan_Hickstelnettech: As for returning, that depends.  If Senators are appointed by the States, they would be exempt from dismissal on the budget issue.  If they are elected, they're gone.  No questions asked.
19:43.58jayteeAlan_Hicks, Iran has already done that in the 90's
19:44.16Alan_HicksEven if they voted for a lower budget that would have been balanced, they should have fought harder for it. :^)
19:44.38jayteewhich is why our money has color in it, a small embedded strip in it, etc.
19:44.46Alan_Hicksjaytee: Right.  At least by using gold, you limit the amount of inflation that can occur, and who can do it to you.
19:45.02jayteePlatinum or germanium would be a better base
19:45.15Alan_HicksPlatinum I can go for.  No problem with that.
19:45.29telnettechetfon: you on here
19:45.31Alan_HicksAnd, oh yes... one other thing....
19:45.42drmessanogermanium?
19:45.46Alan_HicksThe US government may not give any money to the State government with strings attached.
19:46.08jayteedrmessano, never heard of it? rare earth element used in semiconductors
19:46.13Alan_HicksIn other words, no more green-mail that makes the States entirely reliant and subserviant on the federal government for cash.
19:46.20drmessanoLike 1N34A germanium signal diodes?  I have shitloads of them
19:46.23drmessanoAm I rich?
19:46.38drmessanoOMG, _ I AM_
19:46.43drmessanoYES.. RICH
19:46.51jayteedrmessano, rich? nope, but who knows what they'll be worth in 20 years
19:47.15jayteeI'd still hang on to your X-Men comics though.
19:47.38drmessanoI do have GI-JOE #1
19:48.50drmessanoI actually have like 2 boxes of comic books
19:48.54drmessanoHmmm
19:49.22jayteemy mom threw out all my comics and baseball cards I was 11 and we moved. They'd be worth a fortune today.
19:50.11hardwirebeats druid
19:50.14drmessanoI have all my baseball and hockey bards
19:50.16drmessanocards
19:50.17telnettechjaytee: so is the training helping you in your day to day operation of your * box
19:50.46jayteetelnettech, somewhat
19:51.38jayteeI've thought of a few improvements to my dialplan but alot of things I'd based on the book and the way I manage my contexts is almost exactly how Jared recommended doing in class.
19:52.24jayteeI'm focusing on doing more with database and making things dynamic and adding features based on that.
19:52.53jayteeas well as a Windows based remote management GUI.
19:53.00jameswfin my application list on my blackberry I have an application called "phone" I wonder what happens if i remove it
19:53.12jayteeBecause there is such a high demand for GUIs nowadays.
19:54.37telnettechjaytee: yeah i have been going back thru recent installs and changing things....I also have sent the development team a few ideas on how to make certain hospitality features work
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19:55.05jayteeI've been working on that white paper I promised Ron for integrating dialplans with Nortel Meridian Option 11c-81c switches with Asterisk.
19:55.30drmessanoAnyone here know if YATE or Freeswitch works with SIP TCP?
19:55.37drmessanoZOMG offtopic
19:55.48drmessanoI need it for integration
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19:57.54etfonhomeytelnettech, did you figure out the weird ringing thing from befoe?
19:58.03telnettechno i havent
20:00.08telnettechet: i havent tried the canreinvite=no option cause the customer is going into a busy holiday weekend and has forbidden us to make any changes until after
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20:01.31telnettechet: did you have any other suggestions?
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20:02.24etfonhomeytelnettech, No, just curious.
20:03.46RobHHrmm, someone asked me this and I am not sure of the answer.  When I call the Record() application, is there a way to tell it to record in more than one file format during its runtime?  For example, I want to record 'nightmenu' in .gsm, .wav and .au all at once?
20:05.24donnibwhat does line 0: Unable to open master device '/dev/zap/ctl' mean ? i try to run genzaptelconf
20:07.52jameswfdonnib: no zaptel loaded
20:08.08VoipForcesRObH: after the record spawn a or multiple System call to do the conversion
20:08.16donnibso how do i get it loaded ?
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20:08.30RobHVoipForces: use dialplan to make shell command line calls?
20:08.46VoipForcesRObH: Yup works just fine
20:08.49RobHwas hoping there was a way to do that within asterisk, but i guess i could do that to run sox and convert
20:08.57jameswfdonnib: do you have hardware?
20:09.01donnibnope
20:09.02VoipForcesRobH: asterisk -rx "show application system"
20:09.10RobHVoipForces: i didnt really think of that either, thanks =]
20:09.11jameswfthen dont worry about it
20:09.18donnibi need the conferencing
20:09.26donniband was told that i need the zaptle
20:09.33donnibzaptel*
20:09.38RobHdonnib: yea, you need the ztdummy timer running
20:09.41jameswfmodprobe zaptel; modprobe ztdummy
20:09.44VoipForcesdonnib: you need ztdummy for timing that's it
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20:10.06donnibso i need to run mobprobe zaptel ?
20:10.39jameswfdonnib: if you use the zaptel init scrit it will work it out for you
20:10.46jameswf*script
20:10.55MiccOk, so I figured out the problem I was having yesterday was that the aastra phones don't like to have anything in the callerid field.
20:11.03VoipForcesRobH: I use it intensivly to run mysql queries, beats the hell of writing agi to do simple table update/insert
20:11.04donnibso what do i need to run exactly ?
20:11.56Miccbut now I've got a problem where asterisk is getting into a bad state and when I show channels theres a ton of outoing lines and a bunch of people in queues.
20:12.37Miccand once I do a show queues it doesn't show me anything and then I can't give it any commands after that.
20:13.07MiccIf I get a message about avoiding initial deadlock, is that bad or is that a normal thing?
20:14.00lmadsenMicc: you can ignore it
20:14.08lmadsenthe deadlock was avoided
20:15.22Miccyes it was
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20:24.36MiccAny ideas why it would get stuck in the strange state?
20:25.50drmessanoMicc: I think that old ass version of Asterisk, pre-fixing a lot of deadlock issues, is going to keep giving you problems
20:26.22Micchmmm..
20:26.55Miccwell I guess its time to upgrade then.
20:27.06MiccWe're running asterisk 1.2 with some modifications.
20:27.20donnibif i have two subnets 10.116.x.x and 10.115.91.x is localnet=10.0.0.0/255.0.0.0 good enough ?
20:27.34jayteeyay, getting out of work early! be back later
20:27.40MiccI'm getting another virtual server to install asterisk on, I can make that one version 1.4 or 1.6
20:27.40Kattyjealous :<
20:28.35MiccDoes anyone know much about this bicom stuff thats advertised on voip-info.org?
20:28.45donnibanyone ?
20:28.48MiccThey look like they have some cool stuff but they don't give any prices.
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20:28.59Miccdonnib, yes you should be fine.
20:29.08donnibok thx
20:29.30Miccdonnib, you can turn on full logging and you'll see it doing the compares.
20:29.44donnibsip set debug ?
20:29.57Miccdonnib, no, edit logger or logging.conf I forget the name.
20:30.05Miccuncomment the full line.
20:30.17Miccthen tail -f /var/log/asterisk/full
20:30.26Miccand watch what it does.
20:31.06donnibat the moment i have this line in logger full => notice,warning,error,debug,verbose
20:31.15donnibit's not uncommented
20:31.32drmessano<Micc> We're running asterisk 1.2 with some modifications.  <-- and a very old 1.2 to boot
20:31.39drmessanoThats the problem
20:32.02Miccdrmessano, you have the same problems, huh?
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20:32.07drmessanoYou're expecting a lot of help debugging this thing, and you're using something ancient
20:32.20drmessanoNo, but things have improved over time
20:32.57drmessanoI probably did use that version, 2 years ago
20:33.03Miccdrmessano, I know, I just haven't taken the time the get all the modifications written down so we can upgrade and make the same mods.
20:33.24Miccoh, I see what your saying now.
20:33.57MiccI know its old, but you guys have been a big help still.
20:34.06StephenFDo you guys typically run RAID 5 on your * boxes? Or maybe just RAID 1?
20:34.50StephenFHow much do you price a normal Asterisk server at for about 25 users
20:34.57StephenFjust the server hardware I mean
20:35.14drmessanoheh.. trade secret.. Want a quote?
20:35.20StephenFlol
20:35.33StephenFNo im just looking for industry averages
20:35.39Miccdrmessano, Its been running fine without a hitch for the last 3 or 4 years. Its just recently we've taken on some external customers.
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20:36.02StephenFIm building a server for a client and want to make sure im in the ballpark here
20:36.22drmessano$500
20:36.39StephenFplus any interface cards they need right?
20:36.47drmessano...
20:37.07drmessanodude, price the hardware, price the labor and time, mark it up a bit.. thats how you price something out
20:37.18drmessanoIt isnt about "What do you guys do"
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20:38.07StephenFyup, just wanted to make sure my prices were sane
20:38.31drmessanoYour prices are your prices
20:38.37drmessanoThere is no comparison
20:38.46drmessanoIts based on what you decide needs to be the in the box
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20:43.12rwaitew00t, four day weekend
20:43.13rwaite!
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20:52.39AkiyukiAnyone know a company that makes phone cards?
20:53.36lmadsenI think digium does
20:54.34AkiyukiThat would be cool. Those kind that you scratch the little bar off ?
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20:54.40psykx-outand diginum are worth supporting IMHO beacause they are pro opensource
20:54.44lmadsenyou mean calling card?
20:54.54psykx-outlol
20:55.02AkiyukiI guess
20:55.16AkiyukiEnglish isn't my first langauge.
20:55.28AkiyukiBut yeah, you purchase the card at a store, then you scratch the back and dial the #
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20:58.18AkiyukiDoes digium make that product?
21:00.01QwellAkiyuki: No, Digium makes telephony interface hardware
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21:02.05meuserjOk.. I'm working to migrate my asterisk configuration from a server running 1.2.13 to a server running 1.4.21.2... it's not starting and exiting with exit status 1, and no matter how much I crank up the verbosity, I don't see anything indicating what is causing the fatal error... can someone educate me? http://pastebin.com/m129bd70c
21:03.00jameswfmeuserj: /var/log/asterisk
21:03.38edibraci'm getting one irqmiss when i do zttool -- and reading up on the irqmisses, one culprit is the dma settings for my hard drives.  my question is about hdparm output -- how do I know what the current udma it is using? http://pastebin.com/m74111706
21:03.58edibracit says the current one is indicated with a * but for my output it doens't say.
21:04.13tzafrir_laptopmeuserj, is it the latest Lenny package?
21:04.25meuserjtzafrir_laptop: yeah
21:05.43tzafrir_laptopgrep voicemail /etc/asterisk/modules.conf
21:06.20tzafrir_laptopI think you need to make voicemail_imap.so and voicemail_odbc.so noload =>
21:06.40AkiyukiQwell: Oh, I thought that is waht lmadsen was saying
21:06.45tzafrir_laptopI have no idea why I don't see the error
21:06.45tzafrir_laptopdid you miss pasting the last line?
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21:08.34meuserjtzafrir_laptop: no, the last line is the last line
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21:08.49ruben23hi to all
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21:09.10ruben23hi i have to refer something if what error log could this be...
21:09.33ruben23Nov  6 14:38:48 NOTICE[7376]: rtp.c:587 ast_rtp_read: Unknown RTP codec 90 received
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21:10.07tzafrir_laptopmeuserj, how do you run it?
21:10.11ruben23this si the output of my asterisk CLI.
21:10.19tzafrir_laptopcan you use strace to get more clues?
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21:10.52meuserjtzafrir_laptop: I'm running it with this command: /usr/sbin/asterisk -dfvvvv -p -U asterisk
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21:12.01tzafrir_laptopmeuserj, so next thing to do would be strace /usr/sbin/asterisk  -p -U asterisk
21:12.02ruben23hi anyone can help me with this..
21:12.06tzafrir_laptoperrr...
21:12.28tzafrir_laptopmeuserj, so next thing to do would be strace /usr/sbin/asterisk -dvvvv -p -U asterisk
21:12.42meuserjtzafrir_laptop: I tried to noload voicemail_imap and voicemail_odbc, and there is no change
21:14.07ruben23hi can anyone help me with this error log on asterisk CLI Nov  6 14:38:48 NOTICE[7376]: rtp.c:587 ast_rtp_read: Unknown RTP codec 90 received
21:15.16tzafrir_laptopAre RTP codecs numbers or bitmasks?
21:17.20ruben23actually i have no idea...
21:18.15ruben23you have idea with my error log on CLI.
21:18.33tzafrir_laptopmeuserj, so how about running that strace
21:18.35tzafrir_laptop?
21:18.40meuserjtzafrir_laptop: http://pastebin.com/m4130b4bb
21:18.52meuserjtzafrir_laptop: JUST pasted it
21:19.40VoipForcesAnyone has bright ideas to mix "publicity announcements" within music on hold without doing a copy/paste job over the actual moh files?
21:20.40C4awayis it a known issue that Playtones isn't audible during early media unless a Playback command has been issued previously?
21:21.36tzafrir_laptopmeuserj, grep app_voicemail /etc/asterisk/modules.conf
21:23.28meuserjtzafrir_laptop: no output
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21:23.44tzafrir_laptopSo you didn't add those two lines
21:25.09meuserjI added noload lines for voicemail_imap.so and voicemail_odbc.so.... didn't realize that I needed to prepend app_ to it
21:25.59jtoddvoipforces: I'm not certain it works out of the box, but I've heard of people use streaming audio as MOH sources, and then using common radio station automation tools for that purpose.
21:26.03meuserjwhen I prepend app_, it still exits with an error, but the output is new...
21:26.23meuserjI'll come back if I get stuck again.  Thanks.
21:26.38VoipForcesjtodd: in theory that would work, but it's a pain in the ass to setup.
21:27.23jtoddvoipforces: well, not too many ways to do sophisticated audio mixing without PITA.
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21:28.22jtoddvoipforces: easiest way is to just create messages as MOH files and stick them in the directory for random play.
21:28.48ruben23hi can you look into this its an output to my asterisk CLI Nov  6 14:38:48 NOTICE[7376]: rtp.c:587 ast_rtp_read: Unknown RTP codec 90 received
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21:31.09VoipForcesjtodd: proble with that is that you might get 2-3 ties back to back same message.
21:32.18jtoddVoipForces: no, not if you use the ordered method.  Just alphabetize your filenames, and put enough music/messgaes in the directory that it doesn't repeat within the typical span of listening.
21:32.46jtoddVoipForces: From musiconhold.conf:  ; This plays files directly from the specified directory, no external
21:32.46jtodd; processes are required. Files are played in normal sorting order
21:32.46jtodd; (same as a sorted directory listing)...
21:33.26jtoddThere is a "random" and a "sorted" method - use what makes sense.
21:35.25ruben23hi anyone here have ideas what would be the changes on my asterisk configuration when i do inbound calls currently im doing outbound...
21:35.50ruben23i have asterisk ver 1.4.22
21:36.39ruben23SIP + sofphones.
21:38.21VoipForcesBoss just had e put xmas moh... yuk
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21:38.59trogsheh, should play 5 seconds of xmas then switch to some metal.
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21:40.00mchounot a asteris problem per se, but who do people recommend for sending and receiving faxes over ip?
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21:42.42Qwellmchou: email.
21:44.23mchouQwell: not realistic in this case
21:44.45mchouQwell: business still has fax needs
21:44.57Qwellwhy over ip?
21:45.09Qwellget an analog line, and a fax machine...
21:45.42puppetmchou: fax over IP will never work 100%
21:45.51puppetnot safe enough for companies anyway
21:45.54mchouthis is a small business (2 people) trying to get rid of analog all toghether
21:46.00puppetsure for home use sure
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21:46.13puppetmchou: i wouldn't do it if you req. fax in the buisness
21:46.20puppetmchou: if it is something you use form time to time
21:46.23puppetmchou: then it is no problem
21:46.29C4awayt.38 works much better than ulaw passthrough
21:46.38C4awaybut finding a t.38 provider is the tough part
21:46.45mchouC4away: yup
21:47.02drmessanoIndeed
21:48.08ruben23hi anyone here have ideas what would be the changes on my asterisk configuration when i do inbound calls currently im doing outbound...
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21:51.09Akiyuki<PROTECTED>
21:51.09Akiyuki<PROTECTED>
21:51.19AkiyukiThis is the messages I see in my CLI, what could be causing this?
21:51.24drmessanohackers
21:51.54voxterSoo, I've got our main asterisk server sometimes going from 5-10% cpu all the way up to 80-90% and its not clearly evident what is causing it. Is there a way to use gdb or something to determine which component is causing the spike? I think it is related to exceeding a certain number of simultaneous calls, or transcoded calls, or something.. But I am having a hell of a time isolating it
21:52.00drmessano00405A1468c5 is the IP address of the gibson
21:52.17drmessanovoxter: FreePBX?
21:52.23drmessano1.6?
21:52.24voxterdrmessano: no freepbx there.
21:52.26drmessanook
21:52.27voxterdrmessano: 1.2
21:52.36drmessanoFOP?
21:52.45voxterdrmessano: no. its a switch for all intents and purposes.
21:52.49drmessanoOk
21:53.00drmessanoFlash operator panel as of late has been causing huge fits, just like that
21:53.01voxterdrmessano: its the asterisk process gobbling up the cpu.
21:53.13drmessanoI got that
21:53.23voxterdrmessano: no AMI users connected
21:53.27drmessanook
21:53.34AkiyukiIs there a way to see why this MGCP phone is resetting every few minutes?
21:53.51Akiyukis/minutes/seconds
21:54.07voxterdrmessano: im pretty sure it is related to call setup/transcoding, but its just not clearly evident, it can happen when im using 17 g729 licenses, but other times be at 5% cpu when im using 25.
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21:55.17voxterHm, maybe its coming from translating between IAX and SIP
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22:01.41AkiyukiWhat does MGCP Auditing endpoint d001@00405A1468C5 for hookstate
22:01.43Akiyukimean?
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22:15.26voxternote to self: dont attach strace to a busy asterisk. it freaks the hell out and crashes.
22:15.33voxter(asterisk 1.2 at least)
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22:18.27__Markus___help
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22:18.41__Markus___Hi
22:19.38__Markus___I have questions about asterisk, chan_capi and AsteriskGui
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22:25.16ruben23hi anyone familiar with DID in inbound calls
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22:39.45WHYSLooking for a version of * to run production in a University.  Am I limiting myself by installing *NOW over a CLI version?
22:40.53russellbMaybe.  It depends what you want to do
22:40.59russellband also, you don't _have_ to use the GUI with *NOW
22:41.31russellbif you're running in that big of an environment, it's likely that the GUIs are not going to suit your needs
22:41.50WHYSJust wondering if I would break teh GUI by changing things - ODBC, adhearsion, etc
22:43.24WHYS<PROTECTED>
22:43.56WHYSOK, two (clustering)
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23:09.00Akiyukiyeah, thats me
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23:12.55ElDiosguys a question which could start flames in here ...but anyway I really think is the most precious place to ask: what is the best *automagic* PBX software between Elastix, Trixbox e AsteriskNOW and why?
23:13.04ElDiosno flames and vegetables pls :)
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23:17.00thedonvaughnElDios: in short, there is no best.  whichever one fits your needs
23:17.58ElDiosthedonvaughn the need is simple.. have a working, fast and simple PBX with the least crap around the conf files as possible and a good user interface
23:19.06ElDiosthe problem is, which fits *best* this need... (taking out the *fast* require pure Asterisk from scratch will probably be the answer, I know... shame on me -_-' )
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23:30.59ElDiosthe fact that asterisknow is that sponsorized by Digium takes me off that product but infact from the forums notes *that* product is the one which keeps your conf file more clean and neat
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23:40.25mm2knethi there, anyone can help me with my asterisk installation? xD
23:40.41mm2knet. /config
23:43.23mm2kneti have connected an anologue an one isdn phone to a fritz!box and i want them to register to my asterisk 1.4. I can call the phones from a softphone (zoiper) and also can access the voicemailbox with it, but the phones theirself can't do any of that things -.-
23:48.37AssimilateHappy turkey day to all who practices the sacrifice of a turkey for consumption on the last thursday of the November month.
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23:52.34DrAk0a good softphone for mac?

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