| 00:00.08 | x86 | two different random ways, but I can't remember the difference |
| 00:00.33 | x86 | r = one kind of random, R = another kind of random, g = sequentially ascending, and G = sequentially descending |
| 00:00.41 | x86 | iirc |
| 00:03.01 | jaytee | not as I understand it. Round robin means goes round and round and round. It should go through the loop until a channel becomes available or your dial timeout is exceeded. |
| 00:04.35 | sakajawebe | yeah, the r and R stand for round robin, not random |
| 00:04.40 | x86 | ah ok |
| 00:04.47 | x86 | never used them honestly |
| 00:04.50 | x86 | only use g and G |
| 00:04.56 | jaytee | they open ugly doors |
| 00:05.01 | x86 | oh? |
| 00:05.05 | phix | x86: basically the behavour I would like is "I have a SIP phone with 4 line lights, when someone makes a call a light marks the line in use, putting the call on hold allows other phones to pick up the line" |
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| 00:05.52 | x86 | phix: that's shared line appearance |
| 00:06.01 | x86 | SLA |
| 00:06.16 | phix | ok |
| 00:06.21 | sakajawebe | I believe the 'putting the call on hold allows other phones to pick up the line' is handled by Call Parking |
| 00:06.29 | phix | x86: is it recommended I use that for simplicity? |
| 00:07.14 | phix | x86: basically the users don't like new things that require remembering numbers to forward on calls and such |
| 00:07.27 | boolean12 | I setup something identical to what you are wanting at my office. |
| 00:07.28 | x86 | sakajawebe: but on an old key system, that trunk line will light up, allowing other phones to pick up that line |
| 00:07.37 | jaytee | if you don't have a timeout in the Dial statement and you have 4 zap channels in 1 zap group, you Dial(Zap/r1/8675309) and you have 4 long winded people all using all 4 channels so all channels in the group are busy. It won't fallthrough with channel unavailable, it'll keep looping till someone hangs up a busy channel. |
| 00:07.38 | x86 | sakajawebe: i think he wants SLA on a parking lot |
| 00:07.47 | boolean12 | We had a bizfon680, I completely emulated that. |
| 00:07.56 | x86 | jaytee: oh |
| 00:08.26 | phix | boolean12: nice, what phones did you use? |
| 00:08.36 | boolean12 | Unfortunately, I used grandstream GXP2010's. |
| 00:08.37 | jaytee | but if you put a ringing timeout in the dial statement once that was exceeded the call would failover to the next priority in the context. |
| 00:08.57 | boolean12 | The Bigest piles of shit ever, but .. they were the only phones with enough line appearances to accomplish the task. |
| 00:09.27 | phix | SLA, parking lot, call queue with voice mesage option :) |
| 00:09.44 | boolean12 | Pretty much. |
| 00:09.47 | phix | isn't grandstream the root of all evil? even more so than Microsoft? |
| 00:09.51 | boolean12 | Yes. |
| 00:09.57 | phix | pwned |
| 00:10.03 | boolean12 | They try to have all the features imaginable but at a cost. |
| 00:10.29 | boolean12 | Unstability, poor feature implementation, in general cheap components. |
| 00:10.37 | boolean12 | The GXP2000's had a 30% failure rate. |
| 00:13.06 | tvirus | Do I need to do any special configuration to the echo cancellation module on the TDM4xxP card? I have an FXO and when I call to that line, all numbers I press in the IVR are ignored and it times out. |
| 00:15.49 | jaytee | My boss wanted to buy cheap and bought 6 Grandstream phones to start with for testing and for 2 people to use for real. The GXP-2000's were a pain in the ass. Jitter and problems with handling MOH no matter what codec. turned out to be that even if you set silence suppression=off it would indicate that but never actually shut it off. Once I upgraded the bootrom and sip software that corrected the problem but they still perform like crap compared |
| 00:15.49 | jaytee | to a Polycom. |
| 00:16.16 | boolean12 | The "consumer" line of phones, like the BT-101 are good.. cheap phones. |
| 00:16.31 | boolean12 | They were aware the GXP-2000 was an abortion. |
| 00:16.38 | boolean12 | I've had intimate contact with people about this. |
| 00:16.57 | boolean12 | The GXP-2010 is an ok phone if you can iron out it's kinks. |
| 00:17.02 | sakajawebe | tvirus: have you tried disabling the module and seeing if you still have problems with IVRs? |
| 00:17.07 | boolean12 | Plus it's the only phone with 18 SLA appearances for under $200 |
| 00:17.10 | jaytee | intimate contact? you mean you actually slept with their engineers? All of them? |
| 00:17.20 | boolean12 | No no, Jesus :-p |
| 00:17.32 | boolean12 | I mean I've been on a 1 on 1 basis with several of them. |
| 00:17.47 | boolean12 | I was helping them release a patch for the 2010. |
| 00:18.29 | boolean12 | Anyone know why my dial maco lets audio though? |
| 00:18.33 | boolean12 | I can't figure it out. |
| 00:21.25 | Qwell | bt-101? good? |
| 00:21.32 | boolean12 | It's decient. |
| 00:21.43 | boolean12 | I haven't had any real call problems |
| 00:21.44 | Qwell | the My First IP Phone line of Barbietones are terrible |
| 00:21.58 | boolean12 | HAHA |
| 00:22.05 | boolean12 | Seriously, I haven't had a problem. |
| 00:22.23 | jaytee | lets audio though? huh? |
| 00:22.26 | tvirus | I set echocancellation to no and it still doesn't work. It works fine when I call to my SIP trunk. |
| 00:22.33 | boolean12 | Yeah. |
| 00:22.36 | boolean12 | Bleeds through |
| 00:22.42 | boolean12 | If I scream I can hear myself. |
| 00:22.51 | boolean12 | If I make enough noise, It acts like it's bridged. |
| 00:22.54 | Qwell | You're using grandstreams |
| 00:22.59 | boolean12 | I'm using cisco right now. |
| 00:23.10 | boolean12 | I'm at home. |
| 00:23.12 | boolean12 | :-P |
| 00:23.30 | boolean12 | It doesn't make sense though. |
| 00:23.49 | boolean12 | If I'm perfectly quiet during the first couple of seconds of audio playback on the callee side, it's fine after that. |
| 00:24.00 | boolean12 | The moh for the caller is fine, everything is normal |
| 00:24.12 | sakajawebe | tvirus: you should try adding the option vpmsupport=0 to the wctdm24xxp module to disable the hardware echo canceller |
| 00:24.23 | sakajawebe | not simply turning off echocancel |
| 00:24.39 | boolean12 | But if I make loud noise on either side consistantly, it bleeds through then eventually.. I can't hear the moh or the audio on the macro side.. Even after I go quiet again. |
| 00:25.00 | sakajawebe | one way to do this is to add 'options wctdm24xxp vpmsupport=0' to the '/etc/modprobe.conf' if you have it |
| 00:25.03 | boolean12 | I've upgraded to svn, I've downgraded. |
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| 00:25.12 | sofh69 | hi all |
| 00:25.21 | boolean12 | I'm even using stock configs with my peers added to sip.conf and my dialplan in extensions. |
| 00:25.30 | boolean12 | I just don't understand it. |
| 00:25.33 | sofh69 | i am trying to connect two boxes via iax2(trunk) |
| 00:25.44 | tvirus | sakajawebe: How do I do that? Do I need to recompile it? |
| 00:25.50 | boolean12 | I think Qwell hates me :D |
| 00:25.59 | sofh69 | but geting a strange error " from caller i-e IAx2 Sound stopped |
| 00:26.04 | sofh69 | and hence call is one way |
| 00:26.05 | boolean12 | I don't like grandstreams, but for a $40 dollar phone, they arn't bad. |
| 00:26.06 | sakajawebe | tvirus: one way to do this is to add 'options wctdm24xxp vpmsupport=0' to the '/etc/modprobe.conf' if you have it |
| 00:26.26 | boolean12 | I use a Sipura 3000 and a 7941 at home. |
| 00:26.38 | sofh69 | any idea :$ |
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| 00:27.07 | tvirus | I do not have that file. |
| 00:27.36 | sakajawebe | tvirus: do you know how to unload all the zaptel modules and stop zaptel? |
| 00:28.02 | sofh69 | anybody here working with iax2 trunking ? |
| 00:28.27 | tvirus | rmmod <module> ; service zaptel stop |
| 00:28.28 | tvirus | ? |
| 00:28.50 | tvirus | or modprobe -r |
| 00:29.27 | sakajawebe | tvirus: service zaptel stop is fine if you have it |
| 00:29.37 | tvirus | Ok, done. |
| 00:30.18 | sakajawebe | tvirus: run that, and then run 'modprobe wctdm24xxp vpmsupport=0' and add any other options you need. Wait, was asterisk running when you ran 'service zaptel stop'? If it was, you need to stop asterisk, and run it again before running the modprobe command |
| 00:30.59 | tvirus | I stopped * |
| 00:31.16 | sakajawebe | k, before stopping zaptel? |
| 00:31.22 | tvirus | Yes |
| 00:31.36 | sakajawebe | ok, then you can run that modprobe command, and then start asterisk back up |
| 00:31.39 | sakajawebe | err |
| 00:31.41 | sakajawebe | wait |
| 00:31.53 | sakajawebe | run 'ztcfg' before starting asterisk |
| 00:32.09 | tvirus | It ran when I restarted zaptel |
| 00:32.15 | tvirus | That worked. That fixed the issue. |
| 00:32.23 | tvirus | But now I have no hardware EC. |
| 00:32.38 | sakajawebe | err, alright, exactly, but you verified that the problem is caused by the EC corect? |
| 00:32.51 | sakajawebe | have you tried setting relax dtmf in zapata.conf? |
| 00:33.00 | tvirus | Yes, I can interact with the IVR |
| 00:33.03 | tvirus | Let me look |
| 00:34.24 | sakajawebe | another thing to try would be adding 'vpmdtmfsupport=0' or setting it to 1, and seeing which gives better performance |
| 00:34.42 | sakajawebe | so basically stop zaptel again, and change the previous parameter to that one, you don't want both |
| 00:35.09 | sakajawebe | depending on your version of zaptel, vpmdtmfsupport will either be disabled or enabled by default |
| 00:35.16 | sakajawebe | so try it both ways |
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| 00:36.19 | tvirus | I think the relaxdtfm worked. I did modprobe -r wctdm.... then stopped zaptel, then did modprobe wctdm.... and restarted zaptel and put relaxdtfm=yes and echocancel=yes in zapata.conf and it seems ok. |
| 00:36.44 | sakajawebe | K, excellent, well there you go then |
| 00:37.01 | tvirus | Thanks much, sweety. |
| 00:37.09 | tvirus | Is there a list of options that the module supports? |
| 00:37.22 | sakajawebe | you can try running 'modinfo wctdm24xxp' |
| 00:37.35 | sakajawebe | It won't tell you what the options are for each parameter though |
| 00:37.56 | tvirus | Ah, neat. Is there an option that does? Or is that unpossible. |
| 00:38.21 | sakajawebe | I don't know of anything that will provide that information without just looking through the source |
| 00:38.42 | tvirus | Good enough for me, at least I know what I can use. |
| 00:38.46 | tvirus | Thanks again. |
| 00:39.17 | sakajawebe | np |
| 00:42.53 | sakajawebe | Is there a way to do forgotten password stuff with the nickserv on this server? |
| 00:49.31 | dlewis | dont think so sakajawebe |
| 00:49.37 | dlewis | might have to speak to a staff from freenode |
| 00:49.41 | sakajawebe | hrhm, actually it hasn't been logged into since 2005, when I last used it |
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| 00:51.47 | dlewis | so, you should be good to have a staffer make it your nick. |
| 00:52.06 | dlewis | thats what I did |
| 00:52.12 | dlewis | hadn't been on here since like 2004 |
| 00:52.14 | sakajawebe | ah, k, thanks |
| 00:52.15 | dlewis | got my nick back |
| 00:53.41 | dlewis | np |
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| 01:03.02 | sakajawebe | zomeg its mog |
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| 01:16.05 | mog | morning chazz |
| 01:16.22 | chazz | morning? where are you? |
| 01:16.55 | Qwell | throws stuff at chazz |
| 01:17.16 | chazz | onoes! what did I do? |
| 01:17.27 | Qwell | dunno, you were there.. |
| 01:17.35 | Qwell | had to throw it at somebody, you understand |
| 01:17.37 | chazz | ah, happens often enough I suppose |
| 01:23.26 | RB2 | Has anyone implemented SipTheeSkype before? |
| 01:23.56 | Qwell | RB2: no, all skype solutions that exist publicly today are junk |
| 01:24.16 | boolean12 | Have you played with ChanSkype? |
| 01:24.31 | Qwell | does it exist today? |
| 01:25.09 | RB2 | At least SipTheeSkype is actively maintained... latest update was on the 14th |
| 01:25.11 | jaytee | I haven't played much with Skype myself but then I haven't played with Fisher-Price stuff either lately. |
| 01:25.25 | boolean12 | http://www.chanskype.com/ |
| 01:25.30 | Qwell | boolean12: it's junk |
| 01:26.01 | dlewis | any Digium events coming east? |
| 01:26.08 | dlewis | seems like all events are west-coast based |
| 01:26.24 | Qwell | dlewis: you mean something like astricon? |
| 01:26.29 | jaytee | last time I looked Arizona didn't have any coastal property. |
| 01:26.38 | RB2 | The idea of being able to receive calls peaked my interest, I could care less about outbound. |
| 01:26.39 | dlewis | Qwell: yes |
| 01:27.03 | Qwell | dlewis: not really, nothing like that |
| 01:27.14 | dlewis | ok |
| 01:27.21 | dlewis | east coast gets no love I guess |
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| 01:29.07 | RB2 | never does... |
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| 01:30.02 | chazz | theres a voip seminar in florida in october.. |
| 01:30.34 | chazz | that seems to be about it |
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| 01:56.57 | frogonwheels | I've made a macro that defines a menu using background() to prompt for the choices.. and it seems that the macros 'context' is the calling context.. |
| 01:57.00 | frogonwheels | which is fine, but. |
| 01:57.34 | frogonwheels | .. so I've added the macro context to the background() param - |
| 01:58.20 | frogonwheels | however it appears it is still possible to press numbers outside the 'background' call, which get searched in the context that called the macro |
| 01:58.48 | frogonwheels | .. I have some saydigits, wait, sayunixtime calls - but only one background call. |
| 01:59.21 | frogonwheels | anybody got ideas? |
| 02:00.00 | frogonwheels | do I need to set a varible with the macro to force it to be the default context? Or do I need to put the menu choices outside of the macro in a normal context? |
| 02:06.54 | phix | caffienee! |
| 02:07.29 | boolean12 | Mm Hmm. |
| 02:07.47 | Flapp | sleep! |
| 02:11.18 | [TK]D-Fender | frogonwheels: That is how macro's work. They are functionally merged with the calling context. Next is HIGHLY unrecommended to attempt to make an IVR out of a macro. Don't. |
| 02:14.01 | frogonwheels | [TK]D-Fender: ok.. so setting the parameters into variables and then using Goto() is better? |
| 02:14.58 | frogonwheels | or having the parametised macro goto a standard context with the ivr? either/or? |
| 02:14.58 | RB2 | evening [TK]D-Fender |
| 02:15.53 | [TK]D-Fender | frogonwheels: that is a vague statement I won't wualify without seeing what it is you're trying to do. |
| 02:16.14 | frogonwheels | sure..um. |
| 02:16.30 | [TK]D-Fender | frogonwheels: Why would a macro jump out to some other context? this is considered "spaghetti code" in programming. |
| 02:17.35 | RB2 | I got all of my outbound routing with contexts all straightened out, so I have multiple extensions on each phone representing different lines that are aliased to the device's main extension number. It actually worked pretty well, easier than I though. :D |
| 02:17.39 | frogonwheels | [TK]D-Fender: Yeah sure, but I'm still trying to work out my limitations. |
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| 02:18.01 | RB2 | s/though/thought |
| 02:18.05 | [TK]D-Fender | frogonwheels: Sounds like you are jumping around blindly swatting at the moment. |
| 02:18.20 | frogonwheels | [TK]D-Fender: a bit. starting to get more focused though. |
| 02:18.27 | [TK]D-Fender | frogonwheels: You need to look at your approach not jsut the syntax for a single line. |
| 02:19.04 | [TK]D-Fender | frogonwheels: You can execute a right turn in your car perfectly and still get killed for choosing to do so into an oncoming lane. |
| 02:19.18 | RB2 | :-O |
| 02:19.22 | RB2 | That was quite the analogy |
| 02:19.29 | frogonwheels | [TK]D-Fender: yeah sure - I'm not a noob programmer. just new to asterisk. |
| 02:19.50 | [TK]D-Fender | RB2: I'm chock full of them. Plenty to go around. |
| 02:20.54 | frogonwheels | I have an IVR that grabs last 'n' calls from astdb. the key is parameterised so that I can have 2 /more queus without rewriting. |
| 02:21.22 | frogonwheels | ah. how about having a context that calls the macro? would that be better? |
| 02:21.56 | jameswf-home | ~newb |
| 02:21.57 | jbot | extra, extra, read all about it, newb is Don't bother telling us you're a "newb", "n00b", or "nub". We can tell. |
| 02:22.10 | frogonwheels | thanks jameswf-home. |
| 02:23.59 | [TK]D-Fender | frogonwheels: show us the code. I don't like running on vague descriptions and things I have to guess at. |
| 02:24.10 | frogonwheels | sure. coming up. |
| 02:26.35 | frogonwheels | http://pastebin.com/d2a246ac |
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| 02:33.00 | [TK]D-Fender | frogonwheels: Do not do IVR's in macro's. Use Read instead. |
| 02:34.32 | [TK]D-Fender | frogonwheels: youa re also mixing syntax where sometimes you are using () with your app calls, and other times not. It is advised to always use () |
| 02:35.03 | frogonwheels | [TK]D-Fender: oh yeah, there are a few left over from the original code. prefer the look of () |
| 02:35.08 | [TK]D-Fender | frogonwheels: exten => s,n,goto,s|saymenu <- the "s" is redundant as you're jumping within an extension. You need only specify the priority (in this case a label) |
| 02:35.25 | Kumbang | canv |
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| 02:37.04 | frogonwheels | thanks [TK]D-Fender |
| 02:38.53 | jameswf-home | hah |
| 02:42.50 | jameswf-home | wants to figure out how o link the wii to asterisk |
| 02:43.04 | jaytee | oh, god! we've created a monster! |
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| 02:43.28 | jaytee | first the LHC and now this |
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| 02:54.13 | boolean12 | I still love the wrt54g-asterisk setup. |
| 02:54.15 | boolean12 | It kills me. |
| 02:54.33 | boolean12 | Then he mounted it to a roomba create and made a ivr to control the roomba. |
| 02:54.59 | jaytee | who did? |
| 02:55.07 | boolean12 | hang on, I'll grab the page |
| 02:55.26 | boolean12 | http://www.disruptivetelephony.com/2007/04/asterisk_runnin.html |
| 02:58.23 | jaytee | wow, talk about an obsessive hobby |
| 03:00.56 | boolean12 | Heh ^^ |
| 03:04.38 | jaytee | Roomba's don't impress me much. Something with voice recognition that I could yell, "Hey, get me another beer!" and the physical mobility and dexterity to do just that would be impressive. |
| 03:05.11 | heedly | jaytee: get a wife |
| 03:05.17 | heedly | voip won't solve that problem... |
| 03:05.34 | drmessano^ | Wifes are slower than roombas |
| 03:05.39 | jaytee | i think that's probably why most men get wives, that and sex. |
| 03:06.40 | drmessano^ | A roomba will gladly vacuum around you endlessly, completing it's task with diligence. A wife will complain the while time and yell over the noise. |
| 03:06.47 | drmessano^ | Roomba 1 - Wife 0 |
| 03:07.13 | jaytee | although cooking is no longer a highly sought skill as it used to be |
| 03:07.16 | heedly | lol, if you say so. |
| 03:07.19 | drmessano^ | A Roomba doesn't put out.. Neither does a wife. |
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| 03:07.25 | drmessano^ | TIE |
| 03:07.27 | heedly | we now how drmessano^ gets his pleasure... |
| 03:07.37 | heedly | "come here you little roomba" |
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| 03:46.13 | implicit | how do you do show translation in 1.6? |
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| 03:52.51 | jameswf-home | core show... |
| 03:53.26 | implicit | what module needs to be loaded |
| 03:53.41 | implicit | in order to do 'core show translation' |
| 04:02.52 | drmessano | Hmm |
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| 04:04.02 | jameswf-home | indeed |
| 04:09.29 | implicit | exactly :) |
| 04:09.58 | jblack | profound. |
| 04:10.57 | implicit | ;););) |
| 04:13.04 | Nugget | http://xkcd.com/479/ <-- ring ring ring ring bananaphone! |
| 04:20.18 | jameswf-home | my ringtone and MOH http://www.leekspin.com/ |
| 04:20.52 | jblack | Would someone mind unbanning jeev? He promised to behave. |
| 04:22.17 | jameswf-home | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:22.23 | jameswf-home | eh ohwell |
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| 04:27.26 | jblack | ohhhh. the stock market might get ugly tomorrow. |
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| 04:41.42 | drmessano | He was banned? |
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| 04:42.22 | drmessano | wow |
| 04:46.07 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: It's becoming a daily event apparently |
| 04:46.21 | mchou | what did jeev do? |
| 04:47.56 | drmessano | From what I scrolled back to, didn't look like much |
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| 04:57.00 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: Aside from pestering the ops, he's pushed things too far in some partisan way I can't recall and when he was let back in on one time I recall he didn't wait long before pushing his luck rather hard |
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| 05:01.29 | jameswf-home | sad http://pbxinaflash.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2192 |
| 05:02.42 | drmessano | sad? |
| 05:03.51 | jameswf-home | drmessano: you should offer facilities... say hay its a drive but beggers cant be choosers |
| 05:04.05 | jameswf-home | :) |
| 05:04.43 | drmessano | lol |
| 05:05.21 | jameswf-home | I should do meetings at my house.... once a month annoy the crap out of my wife |
| 05:12.24 | implicit | anyone here preencoded g722 at 16khz? |
| 05:12.40 | implicit | trying to figure out how to do it but asterisk 'file convert' doesn't handle the 16khz wav files right it seems |
| 05:13.12 | implicit | i am downsampling wav's from 44100 to 16khz before doing file convert from wav to g722 but it sounds twice as deep/slow |
| 05:13.18 | implicit | after its in g722 format |
| 05:17.57 | [TK]D-Fender | ok, checkout time here. Later all |
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| 06:17.03 | miloux | . |
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| 06:20.11 | DigitalIrony | I have a question |
| 06:21.04 | DigitalIrony | what is the deal with the Extension preferences on the options page on the BE gui....i mean why in the world do you have to set the default extensions ranges.... |
| 06:22.57 | mosty | what is BE? |
| 06:23.04 | mosty | business edition? |
| 06:23.05 | DigitalIrony | Business Edition |
| 06:23.07 | DigitalIrony | yah |
| 06:24.59 | drmessano | For Dundi? |
| 06:25.21 | DigitalIrony | no |
| 06:26.01 | drmessano | You just said you didn't know, how can you say "no"? |
| 06:26.25 | drmessano | Well, implied |
| 06:26.37 | DigitalIrony | I was talking to a customer right. Well he was trying to setup a ring group and noticed that it kept saying that the extension was out of range. So on the options page he tries to set the range to the same range he is using |
| 06:26.54 | DigitalIrony | but it won't let him because that is something elses range |
| 06:27.33 | DigitalIrony | And to bring it up more....His users extensions actually don't have to match the range...but everything else does it would appear |
| 06:28.25 | drmessano | I'd check with Digium support on that one |
| 06:28.32 | DigitalIrony | lol |
| 06:28.36 | DigitalIrony | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:29.11 | DigitalIrony | I am digium support |
| 06:29.33 | DigitalIrony | and I have no clue why that is there...Its the new C 2 version |
| 06:29.43 | DigitalIrony | I haven't had any problems with it in past versions |
| 06:30.48 | drmessano | Do you want their 800 nuber? |
| 06:30.51 | drmessano | Number* |
| 06:31.28 | DigitalIrony | I would just be calling myself.... |
| 06:31.45 | drmessano | wonders if it's even worth it anymore |
| 06:31.50 | DigitalIrony | don't worry about it you answered my question already..... |
| 06:32.17 | DigitalIrony | All I wanted to know was if anyone else has had problems with it, |
| 06:32.26 | DigitalIrony | and if anyone knew a fix. I guess not |
| 06:32.49 | drmessano | Instead you just made your employer look bad :) |
| 06:32.55 | DigitalIrony | not really |
| 06:32.59 | DigitalIrony | everyone has bugs |
| 06:33.10 | drmessano | Wasn't talking about the bug |
| 06:33.27 | DigitalIrony | You mean the fact that a customer just discovered a bug? |
| 06:33.35 | drmessano | Wow, you're dense |
| 06:34.15 | DigitalIrony | Ohh you must mean because I just asked in IRC if anyone else has experienced this problem? |
| 06:34.23 | drmessano | Something about a Digium support tech coming to the Digium supported IRC channel looking for help with a problem comes to mind :) |
| 06:34.41 | DigitalIrony | I am a support rep. not a developer |
| 06:35.24 | drmessano | heh.. why does that matter? |
| 06:35.59 | DigitalIrony | Well, because It is my job to report bugs to the developer to fix..... |
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| 06:37.16 | drmessano | Yeah.. makes me feel good about calling for ABE support and having the tech run to IRC.. lol |
| 06:37.20 | DigitalIrony | Not to fix the bugs...and its hard to determine if it was a bug on the one system...or if anyone else is having the problem |
| 06:37.46 | DigitalIrony | I suppose...but since you know so much you probably won't have to call us huh? |
| 06:38.10 | drmessano | I find it fascinating that you can't appreciate how this looks :) |
| 06:39.23 | DigitalIrony | I guess so? It IS an open source project you know....Do you think we just learn stuff from out of no where in our own heads with out asking questions or testing things? |
| 06:39.39 | DigitalIrony | anyway I am not going to argue with you anymore it doesn't matter |
| 06:40.26 | DigitalIrony | what really matters though is that it should look better to our company that we actually go out of the way to find answers and don't just sorry we don't know. |
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| 06:48.43 | fiddur | Hi. We have several sip register on two differens servers. What does it mean that I for one of the servers constantly see (in CLI/message-log) "-- ast_get_srv: SRV lookup for '_sip._UDP.ipkund2.rixtelecom.se' mapped to host ipkund2.rixtelecom.se, port 5060" (and not for the other at all, that we have more register-lines on...)? |
| 06:51.05 | fiddur | (using 1.6.0-rc6) |
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| 07:02.13 | tzafrir_laptop | fiddur, you know what SRV is? |
| 07:02.16 | tzafrir_laptop | ~srv |
| 07:02.16 | jbot | hmm... srv is Stevie Ray Vaughn. He was a darn fine blues guitarist. |
| 07:02.51 | fiddur | lol |
| 07:02.55 | TrentCreek | srv ..Service realase |
| 07:03.04 | tzafrir_laptop | ~wiki SRV |
| 07:05.49 | fiddur | tzafrir_laptop: Yes... but I don't see what differeres between ipkund2.rixtelecom.se and the other host we use (cx-cust-shg02.rixtelecom.se), that would make one give lots of these messages and the other none.... On dig I can only see simple ip-number-matches... |
| 07:06.33 | tzafrir_laptop | jbot, no, SRV is "Service Record". e.g. _sip._UDP.example.com => 5060, pbx1.example.com . See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SRV_record |
| 07:06.34 | jbot | okay, tzafrir_laptop |
| 07:08.38 | tzafrir_laptop | fiddur, what about "cx-cust-shg02.rixtelecom.se" ? |
| 07:08.58 | tzafrir_laptop | You want to disable SRV lookup? |
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| 07:10.17 | fiddur | tzafrir_laptop: I don't get any ast_get_srv_messages about that address.. Right now I'm mostly curious as to why I get these messages about one host and not the other. ...it's probably not the source of any problem, but when something's not working, everything is worth understanding! |
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| 07:10.54 | tzafrir_laptop | Does that address have an SRV record? |
| 07:11.17 | tzafrir_laptop | If it doesn't, the SRV lookup fails, and a standard CNAME/A lookup is done |
| 07:13.21 | fiddur | tzafrir_laptop: I can't see an srv on any of them.. I find no difference between the host names but I get the ast_get_srv-messages, one for each registry-line, about once a minute for ipkund2.... |
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| 07:25.41 | MacWinner | i have an IAX peer that shows up OK when I run iax2 show peer |
| 07:25.46 | MacWinner | however, it doesn't show up when i run iax2 show registry |
| 07:26.04 | MacWinner | how do you get something into the registry? what's the purpose? |
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| 07:45.45 | fiddur | MacWinner: I'm not sure about iax, but for sip, sip registry are the lines you register at the remote host to recieve calls from. |
| 07:46.48 | jblack | that's nod bad. A little closer would be to say that it tells the other server where your server can be found. |
| 07:47.20 | jblack | and yeah, you can have them for both sip and iax. |
| 07:47.44 | jblack | :s/nod/not |
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| 07:48.52 | basty | Hi |
| 07:49.31 | basty | is it possible to force a "h-extension" by doing a blind transfer? |
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| 07:57.44 | jblack | Icecream tastes good. |
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| 07:59.21 | TrentCreek | the sun is shinning |
| 08:00.01 | jblack | I suppose it should be, somewhere. |
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| 08:06.22 | TrentCreek | nope...it burned out |
| 08:13.05 | jblack | damn LHC |
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| 08:13.56 | QuirkyCarla | o. |
| 08:14.18 | Anon65 | I guess the ops here haven't read the Freenode guideline about how channel temperature is raised by people keeping +o on |
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| 08:14.20 | QuirkyCarla | i sort of stumbled into here. |
| 08:15.05 | QuirkyCarla | I guess not. |
| 08:15.57 | Anon65 | Does a channel that hardly has anyone talking really need 9 people waiting to ban someone? |
| 08:16.52 | TrentCreek | yes |
| 08:17.03 | TrentCreek | you can get kicked 9 times |
| 08:17.15 | merlinn | like a cat |
| 08:17.45 | QuirkyCarla | o |
| 08:18.03 | tzafrir_laptop | Not all of them are here all of the time. |
| 08:18.14 | implicit | status symbol ;) |
| 08:18.19 | merlinn | does it really matter? |
| 08:18.21 | tzafrir_laptop | I suspect some of them are only here 20 hours a day |
| 08:18.32 | tzafrir_laptop | (now, due to astricon) |
| 08:18.36 | Anon65 | It matters enough for Freenode to put out written guidelines about just that. |
| 08:18.43 | Anon65 | I guess it matters to Freenode. |
| 08:18.46 | merlinn | yeah but freenode is largely run by dicks |
| 08:18.55 | merlinn | so I wouldn't worry. |
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| 08:20.14 | Anon65 | Are the people here to out of control that people need to be opped all the time? |
| 08:20.41 | merlinn | dude - is your life so dull that you actually care about this? |
| 08:20.51 | Anon65 | Maybe. |
| 08:20.58 | merlinn | who cares? it's a channel for asking questions about a piece of software |
| 08:21.06 | tzafrir_laptop | Anon65, no. But there are no real issues of temperatures. |
| 08:21.16 | Anon65 | Then why are people opped all the time? |
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| 08:21.36 | merlinn | in the grand scheme of the universe this channel is roughly as important as sections A-F of the encyclopedia britannica in some local library in the middle of nowhere |
| 08:21.39 | tzafrir_laptop | So you'll know who to ask help from :-) |
| 08:21.42 | Anon65 | You'd think in a channel with no problems they wouldn't need a team of "special ops". |
| 08:22.01 | tzafrir_laptop | Anon65, this is not a good time to say that |
| 08:22.18 | Anon65 | Merlinn: At one point people fed their kids with paychecks garnered from generation of those very volumes. |
| 08:22.25 | henk | Anon65: i see one guy raising the temperature atm... |
| 08:22.32 | boolean12 | heh |
| 08:22.41 | tzafrir_laptop | If you actually want most of them to listen to you, wait some 5 hours or so for them to be awake |
| 08:22.56 | merlinn | I suggest you get a life too |
| 08:22.57 | tzafrir_laptop | Better so: not on a weekend |
| 08:23.06 | merlinn | just relax |
| 08:23.07 | merlinn | nobody cares |
| 08:23.14 | merlinn | you're getting worked up about nothing |
| 08:23.23 | Anon65 | I'm just working on my typing. |
| 08:23.27 | Anon65 | I have to type something. |
| 08:23.30 | merlinn | I suggest mavis beacon |
| 08:23.44 | Anon65 | She's cooking my grits right now as we speak, weird. |
| 08:23.45 | boolean12 | http://play.typeracer.com/ |
| 08:24.05 | merlinn | the very fact that you eat grits speaks volumes |
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| 08:25.36 | Anon65 | That I eat healthy food? |
| 08:25.46 | boolean12 | What the hell are grits? |
| 08:25.50 | Anon65 | Google. |
| 08:25.50 | TrentCreek | Eat My Grits! |
| 08:25.52 | Anon65 | Wikipedia. |
| 08:26.00 | TrentCreek | the center of corn |
| 08:26.00 | QuirkyCarla | Nice, Anon65. I'm eating spam and reeses right now. |
| 08:26.10 | boolean12 | Are easy for me to read, but I thought you wanted to type? |
| 08:26.32 | Anon65 | I wanted to type the names of those sources. |
| 08:26.54 | Anon65 | Someone has already answered your question. |
| 08:27.13 | Anon65 | Are the peanut butter cups inside the spam loaf? |
| 08:28.58 | tzafrir_laptop | QuirkyCarla, stop spamming this channel and try to stay on topic, please |
| 08:29.15 | tzafrir_laptop | Anon65, likewise |
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| 08:29.47 | Anon65 | Well your topic right now is what QuirkyCarla is talking about, is this channel for discussion of the activities of QuirkyCarla? |
| 08:30.01 | Anon65 | Can I talk about non-QuirkyCarla related topics? |
| 08:30.14 | Zipper_32 | Is it possible to have a MOH stream playing so that when users are placed on hold, they don't start the MOH soundfile from the beginning every time, but rather, they hear it from where it is currently playing? |
| 08:30.14 | merlinn | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:30.24 | Anon65 | If you're talking about QuirkyCarla then what are we supposed to be talking about? |
| 08:30.38 | boolean12 | Are you using the Asterisk default moh files? |
| 08:30.44 | QuirkyCarla | How is that not on topic? |
| 08:30.50 | Zipper_32 | Yes I am boolean12, |
| 08:31.00 | Anon65 | QuirkyCarla: * |
| 08:31.01 | Zipper_32 | And format_mp3 |
| 08:31.14 | tzafrir_laptop | Zipper_32, this is what happens when you have an external moh stream |
| 08:31.39 | tzafrir_laptop | If you use "files", it will start from the beginning |
| 08:31.43 | QuirkyCarla | Anon65 said someone was making him grits, and I mentioned that I was eating spam and reese's. |
| 08:32.04 | tzafrir_laptop | (and if you use "files", it is really, really pointless to use mp3-s) |
| 08:32.05 | Anon65 | Grits are on topic and spam isn't. |
| 08:32.39 | Anon65 | Several people engaged me in talk about grits and interjected their opinions, so I think grits are on topic. |
| 08:33.10 | Anon65 | Spam is probably off topic because it's a compressed, amalgamated faux meat. |
| 08:33.18 | tzafrir_laptop | points Anon65 to the near by source of sense of humour |
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| 08:34.07 | Anon65 | Matsk: * |
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| 08:35.14 | QuirkyCarla | Why discriminate against what I eat? |
| 08:35.18 | QuirkyCarla | Reeses are good. |
| 08:35.21 | QuirkyCarla | Spam is good. |
| 08:35.45 | QuirkyCarla | The next thing they're going to tell me is they don't like green eggs and ham. |
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| 08:35.51 | tzafrir_laptop | QuirkyCarla, You eat SPAM, not spam |
| 08:35.59 | tzafrir_laptop | quits this topic |
| 08:36.08 | Anon65 | Heh, you went off topic dude. |
| 08:36.21 | Anon65 | Now I'm going to shower you wish asterisks. |
| 08:36.23 | Anon65 | ******* |
| 08:36.51 | QuirkyCarla | all capitals=shouting |
| 08:36.59 | QuirkyCarla | which raises the channel temperature. |
| 08:37.03 | Anon65 | He's shouting. |
| 08:37.08 | Anon65 | And going off topic. |
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| 08:37.23 | QuirkyCarla | Yeah. |
| 08:37.25 | Anon65 | Quirky: I think he's trying to drive us out of the channel. |
| 08:37.26 | QuirkyCarla | I know. |
| 08:38.57 | Anon65 | The people here are repressed and are secretly desiring to go off topic but are afraid due to the excessive op presence and high channel temperature. |
| 08:39.25 | tzafrir_laptop | reminds Anon65 that this channel is logged |
| 08:39.56 | Anon65 | Remind me, when was I first told? |
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| 08:40.10 | Anon65 | I thought Freenode frowned upon logging channels without telling people first... |
| 08:40.25 | Anon65 | Is Asterisk an open source platform even? |
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| 08:41.28 | Anon65 | If this channel is logged it should be said so in the topic. |
| 08:41.36 | Anon65 | I would imagine? |
| 08:41.54 | QuirkyCarla | nods. |
| 08:42.15 | Anon65 | One day while logging in I received a message from freenode pertaining to channel logging. |
| 08:43.05 | Anon65 | Heh, I get the message everyday actually. |
| 08:43.07 | Anon65 | "- and users of the channel are all made aware (if you are |
| 08:43.07 | Anon65 | - publically logging your channel, you may wish to keep a |
| 08:43.07 | Anon65 | - notice in topic and perhaps as a on-join message). |
| 08:43.28 | Anon65 | I suggest that you may with to keep a notice of the logging in the topic. |
| 08:43.33 | Anon65 | +s |
| 08:43.42 | Anon65 | And perhaps an on-join message also. |
| 08:44.00 | Anon65 | If freenode tells you everytime you login maybe they are trying to tell you something :) |
| 08:45.15 | Anon65 | Tzafrir: You should get that info to the right people here. |
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| 08:45.59 | casix | hello |
| 08:46.03 | Anon65 | Hey buddy. |
| 08:46.58 | casix | I have a debug message but I don't know how to make because it doesn't apear any more. The message is this: chan_zap.c: Write returned -1 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on channel 65. Any idea? |
| 08:47.43 | Anon65 | QuirkyCarla: Do you know about that debug message? |
| 08:49.05 | QuirkyCarla | Anon65: No, but I thought you would. It's channel 65. |
| 08:49.44 | tzafrir_laptop | jbot, tell Anon65 about logs |
| 08:49.53 | Anon65 | QuirkyCarla: You would think of all people, I would know about channel 65, but I do not. |
| 08:49.57 | tzafrir_laptop | ~log |
| 08:49.58 | jbot | it has been said that log is as piece of wood, or a record, or the opposite of exponentiation |
| 08:50.09 | Anon65 | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:50.31 | Anon65 | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:50.39 | tzafrir_laptop | casix, is that a PRI channel? |
| 08:50.50 | QuirkyCarla | jbot: What do people mean when they say they're going to "drop a log"? |
| 08:50.52 | casix | yes |
| 08:50.53 | casix | it is |
| 08:50.55 | Anon65 | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:51.27 | henk | Anon65: why not just query the channel owner? |
| 08:51.58 | tzafrir_laptop | casix, maybe this appeared when the span was in alarm? |
| 08:52.01 | Anon65 | Henk: Tzafrir keeps telling me about how the channel is logged, so he's the one I am reminding of the freenode notice. |
| 08:52.36 | Anon65 | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:52.55 | Anon65 | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:53.06 | tzafrir_laptop | Anon65, that channel is also logged on my home directory whenever I'm connected |
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| 08:54.33 | Anon65 | Tza: You should only be logging if the channel owner has requested this, and in that case it should be reflected in the topic, or perhaps in an on-join message |
| 08:55.11 | Anon65 | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:55.38 | casix | tzafrir_laptop: not it is without alarms. I have some B-channel 0/19 successfully restarted on span errors too but not so often. |
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| 09:02.15 | QuirkyCarla | I'd like to know about Asterick too. |
| 09:06.26 | Zipper_32 | tzafrir_laptop: Regarding your earlier comment about the continuous MOH playback, is mode=mp3 supposed to solve my problem, or should I try something like mpg123? |
| 09:07.01 | tzafrir_laptop | yes. But you can also use any other program that streams raw PCM. |
| 09:07.23 | tzafrir_laptop | e.g. sox, or the minimal streamplayer in the utils directory |
| 09:08.05 | tzafrir_laptop | jbot, tell QuirkyCarla about wikis |
| 09:08.30 | tzafrir_laptop | jbot, tell QuirkyCarla about docs |
| 09:09.03 | QuirkyCarla | thank you, tzafrir_laptop |
| 09:09.18 | tzafrir_laptop | jbot, thanks |
| 09:09.18 | jbot | no worries, tzafrir_laptop |
| 09:09.41 | casix | tzafrir_laptop: how can I debug this messages? it is a phisical problem of hardware? is a drivers problem? it is a syncronization problem? |
| 09:09.52 | casix | do you have any ideas? |
| 09:10.03 | Zipper_32 | Thank you tzafrir_laptop. |
| 09:10.56 | tzafrir_laptop | casix, Write returned -1 (Resource temporarily unavailable) |
| 09:13.11 | tzafrir_laptop | That error code (EAGAIN , I believe) means there is currently nothing in the channel. Thus it means that the zaptel channel is not working as usual |
| 09:13.30 | tzafrir_laptop | Not sure what else I can make out of it |
| 09:15.32 | casix | ok |
| 09:15.34 | casix | thx :) |
| 09:16.02 | casix | i'll search for a solution somewhere :) |
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| 10:17.46 | hi365 | what do i have to do to get asterisk to reread manager.cong? |
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| 10:18.29 | hi365 | ah 'reload manager' |
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| 10:31.44 | Devyll | .. hello guys. I need to connect from a ATM atenna of Vodafone to my server with asterisk installed. What kind of cable do I need and what interface do I need to install in the server ? (I have to carry E1 from the antenna to the asterisk server "which simulates a pbx") . The specs from vodafone say that we have to use: "the standard connectivity rules". |
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| 10:45.56 | tzafrir_laptop | hi365, on which version of asterisk? |
| 10:46.05 | hi365 | 1.4 |
| 10:46.39 | tzafrir_laptop | the users list is not cached |
| 10:46.46 | tzafrir_laptop | re-searched on every login |
| 10:47.01 | hi365 | so no need? |
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| 10:58.24 | loompek | [Sep 22 11:56:57] WARNING[31886]: translate.c:175 framein: no samples for alawtolin |
| 10:58.25 | loompek | hmm |
| 10:58.27 | loompek | any ideas? |
| 11:00.02 | loompek | i've got the .alaw file |
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| 11:06.39 | tzafrir_laptop | misleading warning . The problem for the shortage of frames is probably a step before that |
| 11:08.24 | loompek | hmm |
| 11:09.41 | loompek | [Sep 22 12:07:31] WARNING[32350]: translate.c:175 framein: no samples for alawtolin |
| 11:09.41 | loompek | -- Started music on hold, class 'test', on SIP/5-08228a18 |
| 11:13.08 | loompek | even though i can't see the rtp on the trace |
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| 11:17.03 | loompek | any ideas? |
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| 12:05.26 | barakuda | hi all |
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| 12:15.05 | tzafrir_laptop | all greats barakuda |
| 12:15.22 | barakuda | =) |
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| 12:15.56 | barakuda | is memory leaks normal for latest asterisk of 1.4 branch ? |
| 12:17.41 | tzafrir_laptop | no |
| 12:17.51 | tzafrir_laptop | memory leaks from where? |
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| 12:19.57 | barakuda | since last 3 days proccess asterisk ate from 2 to 60 percents of system memory by top |
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| 12:23.15 | servettas | hi guys |
| 12:23.57 | servettas | how can i set spa400 with port by port for outbound ? |
| 12:24.27 | [TK]D-Fender | servettas: Basically you can't. You don't get port-level control with it. |
| 12:25.15 | servettas | i can get all call but i want use 4 trunk for ports. can i do ? |
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| 12:27.50 | [TK]D-Fender | servettas: You cannot use the ports independently. |
| 12:28.51 | servettas | [TK]D-Fender, http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Linksys-Cisco+SPA400 may you look ? |
| 12:30.40 | [TK]D-Fender | servettas: * Is it possible to group lines for the purposes of outbound calling, as opposed to using all 4? == Actually groupng lines, or select distinctive line for outbound call is impossible. |
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| 12:31.00 | [TK]D-Fender | servettas: Doesn't get much clearer than that |
| 12:31.20 | [TK]D-Fender | servettas: You can NOT pick a specific individual line to use. |
| 12:32.15 | [TK]D-Fender | servettas: the SPA-400 is not a really good choice for Asterisk |
| 12:33.10 | servettas | [TK]D-Fender, i have two gsm operator and i want use with outbound route may be 901, 902 ect. can i do with spa400 ? |
| 12:33.47 | [TK]D-Fender | servettas: I've answered this 3 times. I am done repeating myself. |
| 12:33.53 | servettas | thanks |
| 12:33.57 | servettas | now ok all |
| 12:34.03 | servettas | thanks for help |
| 12:34.50 | servettas | what can i use for fxo line ? |
| 12:35.44 | [TK]D-Fender | servettas: Digium/Sangoma cards, AudioCodes/Mediatrix/Patton Gateways. |
| 12:35.55 | servettas | thanks |
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| 12:56.12 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender, I'm preparing to do an upgrade for my IP 330's from SIP 2.1.2 to SIP 2.2.0. The tarball contains extra sip.ld files with prefixes like 2345-12200-001.sip.ld but I can't find any details on them in the readme or the release notes. Should I just include them anyways? |
| 12:56.51 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: Read your SIP application docs. They had a composite sip.ld, and broken up versions for those going more light-weight |
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| 12:57.06 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: sip.ld is hug by comparison as its for all models |
| 12:57.55 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender, ok so that's covered in the SIP Admin Guide? or do you mean a different doc? |
| 12:58.43 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: Last I checked. There are 4 primary docs : SIP/BR release notes, SIP/BR admin guides, and then model-based user guides |
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| 13:02.37 | write_erase | Hi ... when I try to hold a call, mp3 starts to play and stops a couple of seconds after, then silence. Any idea how to solve that ? (Running Asterisk 1.4 from debian Lenny) . Thx |
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| 13:10.29 | x86 | write_erase: one way to solve it is use an external mp3 player like mpg123 or mpg321 |
| 13:10.51 | x86 | write_erase: another way to solve it is converting the mp3 files to 8000Hz mono wav's |
| 13:11.31 | MindTheGap | hello all, asterisk 1.6.0 rc6 using ldap realtime peers, hints will only work for static peers. I have rtcachefriends=on, call-limit=100, limitonpeers=yes and subscribecontext="the context hints show up in the dialplan" in sip.conf [general] section, but I only get presence information on static peers. realtime peers will show "idle" even when in use. |
| 13:12.25 | write_erase | x86, same problem when I use custom type + mpg123 (either from debian packages, or hand compiled) |
| 13:12.59 | x86 | write_erase: then convert to wav with sox |
| 13:14.13 | x86 | MindTheGap: not sure about LDAP at all, but I've always had similar issues with realtime peers in a MySQL database |
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| 13:15.10 | km- | is there a way to make zttool display E1 instead of T1? |
| 13:15.14 | km- | its only showing me 24 channels. |
| 13:15.19 | write_erase | x86, you mean convert to real .wav files, or to .wav streams ? |
| 13:15.21 | tzafrir_laptop | So you have a T1 |
| 13:15.29 | tzafrir_laptop | km-, what device is it? |
| 13:15.38 | km- | I have the span set as ami,cas |
| 13:15.40 | km- | te405p |
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| 13:15.55 | km- | cas,ami rather. |
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| 13:16.01 | km- | span=1,0,0,cas,ami |
| 13:16.19 | tzafrir_laptop | I'm not sure if it has jumpers for that. But it has a load-time option "t1e1override" |
| 13:16.27 | km- | is there some other magic asides from that to make the span go E1, like perhaps a module option? |
| 13:16.30 | km- | ah. |
| 13:17.45 | km- | hmm |
| 13:17.56 | tzafrir_laptop | km-, to get all options of a module: modinfo module_name |
| 13:18.00 | km- | when I set t1e1override=0xFF my ztcfg now fails on zt_spanconfig with invalid argument |
| 13:18.15 | tzafrir_laptop | Sure. You need to adjust your config |
| 13:18.22 | tzafrir_laptop | notes zapconf |
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| 13:18.50 | tzafrir_laptop | Do you need it for CAS? |
| 13:19.26 | km- | huh. |
| 13:19.29 | km- | how it do that. |
| 13:19.31 | km- | nifty. |
| 13:19.34 | Katty | morning |
| 13:19.35 | km- | I think I need cas, yeah. |
| 13:19.53 | km- | I think for the purposes of this test ccs might work but to be complete with the environment it should be cas. |
| 13:20.01 | x86 | E1 can use AMI coding? |
| 13:20.08 | km- | that's what zaptel.conf said. |
| 13:20.19 | x86 | I thought they used CRB4 or something like that |
| 13:20.27 | km- | hdb4 |
| 13:20.31 | x86 | yeah |
| 13:20.35 | km- | err hdb3 I think it is |
| 13:21.45 | x86 | yeah something like that |
| 13:22.58 | tzafrir_laptop | notes zapconf |
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| 13:23.05 | km- | yep |
| 13:23.10 | km- | that command did the magic |
| 13:23.12 | km- | thanks tzafrir! |
| 13:23.28 | km- | as always your wealth of knowledge takes me across the finish line! |
| 13:26.48 | JT | high density bi-polar 3 |
| 13:26.54 | JT | often with crc4 |
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| 13:27.18 | JT | so many guesses that were off... |
| 13:29.40 | coppice | anyone who uses E1 for ISDN without CRC4 needs spanking |
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| 13:31.44 | Siya | re |
| 13:32.09 | Siya | just to provide some feedback about my issues with UK sipgate |
| 13:32.44 | Siya | I've ripped all NAT config off my * server and added realm sipgate.co.uk to users.conf (no flames please) |
| 13:32.50 | Siya | and now it all works perfect |
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| 13:33.14 | Siya | also helps to add your own number (not full enum) to extensions.conf |
| 13:33.51 | Siya | well done to my Cisco 877 for doing statefull nat (including what cisco calls piggyback nat) |
| 13:33.54 | Siya | :) |
| 13:34.01 | tzafrir_laptop | coppice, I heard some do, where the infrastructure is bad and they expect errors |
| 13:34.29 | Siya | coppice: NL has a lot of PRI without CRC4 |
| 13:34.47 | Siya | though not sure if that's what you'd call E1 |
| 13:34.59 | coppice | this has nothing whatsoever to do with errors. A PRI without CRC4 is broken. various countries do it, and it gives problems |
| 13:35.55 | ZefK | Hi. I have a Xorcom Astribank with 4 BRI ports. The ports work normal in TE mode but in NT mode I receve "Channel 0/1, span 4 got hangup, cause 18". Also if I connect one NT port of the unit with one TE port of the same unit the status leds blinks twice, that mean only Layer 1 is active. If I connect one port Of the unit in TE mode with the local carrier the port blink once, that mean Layer 2 is active and everything works. Is anyone that can help me ? |
| 13:36.10 | Siya | coppice: ic |
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| 13:36.47 | tzafrir_laptop | ZefK, if it blinks (in whatever way) layer 1 is active |
| 13:37.15 | coppice | CRC4 is not an error check mechanism, as CRCs usually are. its to defeat a pattern sensitivity problem with E1s. T1s use CRC6 with ISDN for similar reasons |
| 13:37.24 | tzafrir_laptop | A steady (single) blink means that there's some traffic in the D channel, which normally means that layer 2 is up |
| 13:37.26 | ZefK | tzafrir_laptop, ok ... but I need to use one port in NT mode. |
| 13:38.01 | tzafrir_laptop | Is asterisk running? If it is not running, nothing will pull traffic and you won't have layer 2 |
| 13:38.14 | ZefK | tzafrir_laptop, can you take look here please ... http://pastebin.com/m73b72dcf |
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| 13:38.54 | Siya | coppice: ahh yes, most PRI's I saw in NL were straight PRI interfaces (ISDN30) and not E1 |
| 13:39.17 | coppice | Those are E1s |
| 13:39.19 | JT | pri is just a layer over E1 |
| 13:40.14 | timholum | hello i am wondering if any one in hear uses aastra phones, I am tossing up weather to get the aastra 51i or the linksys spa-921 any opinions which is better |
| 13:40.28 | x86 | timholum: Polycom |
| 13:41.10 | tzafrir_laptop | ZefK, could you please try the same after 'pri intense debug span 4' ? |
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| 13:41.28 | ZefK | tzafrir_laptop, ok .. w8 thanks |
| 13:41.33 | tzafrir_laptop | please wait some 10 seconds before dialing, so we could see any RRs and such |
| 13:42.18 | timholum | ok, any modle number in paticular? i am looking in the $75 range |
| 13:43.24 | tzafrir_laptop | coppice, what do you mean by "defeat a pattern sensitivity problem"? make sure you have a semi-rando data occasionally? |
| 13:43.35 | tzafrir_laptop | Where does it matter? |
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| 13:44.29 | coppice | if you share an ISDN E1 lackign CRC4 you can be evil and make it loose sync for everyone else very easily :-) |
| 13:44.36 | ZefK | tzafrir_laptop, http://pastebin.com/d25309ea5 |
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| 13:46.29 | tzafrir_laptop | ZefK, try: watch -n1 -d cat /proc/xpp/XBUS-00/XPD-03/summary |
| 13:46.45 | tzafrir_laptop | hmmm... sorry , won't help here |
| 13:47.04 | tzafrir_laptop | ZefK, cat /proc/xpp/XBUS-00/XPD-03/bri_info |
| 13:47.10 | tzafrir_laptop | what do you see there? |
| 13:49.05 | ZefK | tzafrir_laptop, http://pastebin.com/d51e7846a |
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| 13:51.15 | tzafrir_laptop | layer 1 is up, but nothing gets sent in the D channel. hmmm... |
| 13:51.52 | tzafrir_laptop | what version of the drivers? modinfo zaptel | grep ^version |
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| 13:52.54 | ZefK | tzafrir_laptop, version: 1.4.9.2-Xorcom-trunk-r5566; srcversion: A4CE7978797E22E1E9F21BA |
| 13:53.39 | ZefK | tzafrir_laptop, I have installed everything starting from the xorcom site |
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| 14:00.20 | ZefK | tzafrir_laptop, I have tested with debian and centos; with 2 different units => the result is the same |
| 14:01.58 | boolean12 | Does 1.6 have async rtp packets? |
| 14:02.02 | lmadsen | morning all |
| 14:02.06 | boolean12 | morning. |
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| 14:04.52 | teknoprep | hi all |
| 14:05.12 | teknoprep | anyone know of a Softpohone either IAX2 or SIP that works on windows mobile smartphones ? |
| 14:05.24 | teknoprep | i know wm6 comes with one but most providers take it out of there roms |
| 14:05.27 | lmadsen | teknoprep: I think X-lite used to offer something like that... |
| 14:05.38 | lmadsen | and maybe zoiper does... ? |
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| 14:06.10 | teknoprep | ok |
| 14:06.45 | mav3rick | sjphone does (Windows CE) |
| 14:06.57 | teknoprep | win CE is Older than dirt |
| 14:07.17 | mav3rick | they have a .cab for pocket pc 2003 |
| 14:07.46 | teknoprep | yes and it doesn;t work for wm5 |
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| 14:07.48 | teknoprep | or wm6 |
| 14:08.45 | mav3rick | okay sorry :) |
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| 14:14.34 | dlewis | what's new David? |
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| 14:15.42 | kotique | hey |
| 14:15.48 | kotique | -- Got SIP response 423 "Interval too brief" back from 200.184.177.186 |
| 14:15.54 | kotique | how do I set expiry time per peer ? |
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| 14:20.37 | kotique | how do I set expiry time per peer ? |
| 14:23.26 | [TK]D-Fender | kotique: You don't Its global |
| 14:23.47 | kotique | hey, I wan't change it just to accomodate 1 peer |
| 14:23.50 | kotique | broken peer ;) |
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| 14:24.39 | [TK]D-Fender | kotique: Ok, feel free to build another server to act as an intermediary then :) |
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| 14:26.33 | shag- | quick question - i seem to have some jitter issues when leaving messages on my local Asterisk server. i do not have issues when calling internal phones or external calls. this s eems only to happen when recording voicemail. any ideas where i should check? |
| 14:26.38 | shag- | running 1.4.21 |
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| 14:35.47 | ipstatic | Anyone ever have a Digium TE122 PRI card freak out a machine if the PRI had errors on it? |
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| 14:38.15 | casix | hello |
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| 14:39.04 | casix | when I load the zaptel modules the files that are in of /dev/zap/ are owned by asterisk. How can I make it to be owned from root???? |
| 14:40.47 | [TK]D-Fender | casix: chown |
| 14:41.26 | casix | [TK]D-Fender: yes, but I want it forever, even after a restart... |
| 14:41.34 | shag- | quick question - i seem to have some jitter issues when leaving messages on my local Asterisk server. i do not have issues when calling internal phones or external calls. this s eems only to happen when recording voicemail. any ideas where i should check? |
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| 14:43.41 | [TK]D-Fender | casix: Go look at your zaptel init scripts then |
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| 14:48.13 | ManxPower | ~ManxPower |
| 14:48.14 | jbot | extra, extra, read all about it, manxpower is NOT an employee of Digium. He is looking for a training/teaching job in networking and/or Asterisk. Currently doing Asterisk and WAN consulting. Contact: eric@fnords.org |
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| 14:54.27 | tzafrir_laptop | casix, those files are generated by udev . tell udev to make them owned by asterisk |
| 14:54.38 | tzafrir_laptop | See the current sample udev file |
| 14:55.38 | tzafrir_laptop | grep zap /etc/udev/rules/*.rules |
| 14:56.01 | tzafrir_laptop | grep zap /etc/udev/rules/*.rules | grep asterisk |
| 14:56.29 | MindTheGap | hello all, asterisk 1.6.0 rc6 using ldap realtime peers, hints will only work for static peers. I have rtcachefriends=on, call-limit=100, limitonpeers=yes and subscribecontext="the context hints show up in the dialplan" in sip.conf [general] section, but I only get presence information on static peers. realtime peers will show "idle" even when in use. |
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| 15:08.03 | casix | tzafrir_laptop: ok, I'll try to tell it to udev :) |
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| 15:09.33 | ManxPower | I suspect subscribecontext only works in the peer/friend sections |
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| 15:15.06 | _trine | on my voip box ,,, has anyone any idea why on my system which appears to be working fine in all other contexts I can't seem to be able to connect to one particular number? |
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| 15:15.46 | _trine | which is a pots line |
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| 15:16.32 | jplank | anyone having issues with sourceforge? |
| 15:16.41 | Qwell | jplank: all the time |
| 15:17.13 | jplank | errrr I needed to download something, damn free projects |
| 15:17.21 | Qwell | sf != free |
| 15:17.23 | jplank | ::shakes fist:: |
| 15:17.30 | Qwell | sf sold out :p |
| 15:17.34 | Qwell | maybe |
| 15:17.42 | jameswf-home | I think SF has gotten pretty big and with some projects hosting ISO's on their mirrors well..... |
| 15:17.51 | jplank | the projects hosted on it are usually free |
| 15:18.01 | Qwell | I just don't like the site itself anymore |
| 15:18.03 | Qwell | silly ostg |
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| 15:18.14 | tzafrir_laptop | The codebase of SF isn't |
| 15:18.23 | Qwell | tzafrir_laptop: really? that's kinda funny |
| 15:18.27 | tzafrir_laptop | Although GForge is based on the original code base |
| 15:18.28 | jameswf-home | free as in beer not freedom |
| 15:18.37 | coppice | SF is a pain |
| 15:18.39 | Qwell | /. still is, right? |
| 15:18.45 | Qwell | slashcode* |
| 15:19.12 | jameswf-home | I am open source.... but you cant see the code till im dead :) |
| 15:19.16 | tzafrir_laptop | coppice, actually, it has imroved. e.g. the major pain of "no direct download links" is mostly gone |
| 15:19.45 | shag- | quick question - i seem to have some jitter issues when leaving messages on my local Asterisk server. i do not have issues when calling internal phones or external calls. this s eems only to happen when recording voicemail. any ideas where i should check? |
| 15:19.46 | coppice | SF is a good way to distribute releases, as they have lots of bandwidth and mirrors. it sucks for development work, though |
| 15:20.05 | jameswf-home | the need for redirect links to track downloads shows lack of knowledge |
| 15:20.11 | Qwell | I disagree with some of the "investments" they've made.. |
| 15:21.01 | Qwell | take a look at some of the companies where Larry Augustin is on the board |
| 15:21.08 | coppice | oh, don't sell them short...... or the SEC will be after you :-) |
| 15:21.10 | Qwell | I'll give you one guess |
| 15:21.13 | jameswf-home | I dont know why but that reminds me i need to open my home firewall to by blackberry |
| 15:21.32 | tzafrir_laptop | SF's svn setup is quite nice: you can do any read-only operation . And only write operations require authentication |
| 15:21.33 | jameswf-home | *my |
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| 15:21.55 | jameswf-home | well you can use google code it is like the new old SF |
| 15:22.01 | coppice | I haven't used SVN on SF, but their CVS was terrible |
| 15:22.08 | Qwell | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Augustin |
| 15:22.26 | Qwell | "He currently serves on the board of several companies, including Fonality, the Free Standards Group, JBoss, Linux International, MedSphere, the OSDL, Pentaho, SugarCRM, Hyperic, Compiere, Zend Technologies and Appcelerator." |
| 15:22.28 | tzafrir_laptop | they (SF) also improved their wiki and clarified their site |
| 15:23.03 | coppice | their mailing lists used to be a disaster, but that improved a lot |
| 15:23.20 | tzafrir_laptop | CVS is bad if the server is not local :-) |
| 15:23.22 | jameswf-home | I love tb forums, a real user writes: Where can I find the file sip.conf and extensions.conf |
| 15:23.45 | coppice | I hate SVN more than I hate CVS :-) |
| 15:24.00 | tzafrir_laptop | prefers git over both |
| 15:24.19 | jameswf-home | coppice: you use git |
| 15:24.26 | jameswf-home | oh wow im slow |
| 15:24.31 | coppice | SVN is wacky. why take something so bad as a reference model for a whole new project? :-\ |
| 15:25.00 | jameswf-home | version control is over rated |
| 15:25.02 | heedly | thinking of new things is hard. |
| 15:25.08 | heedly | jameswf-home is over rated |
| 15:25.14 | jameswf-home | true |
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| 15:25.53 | jameswf-home | but my ARM is about to reset so i wont be over rated long |
| 15:26.01 | coppice | heedly: was that intended to be justification for following the worst existing model? |
| 15:26.48 | tzafrir_laptop | coppice, It took CVS as a reference model, which means you can easily switch without too many unnecessarily-new concepts |
| 15:26.56 | jameswf-home | we do our version control in MS Word :) |
| 15:27.13 | coppice | yeah, but you gain almost nothing from the change |
| 15:27.46 | tzafrir_laptop | sure you do. atomit commits, real support for moving files |
| 15:27.59 | heedly | coppice: I suppose so. |
| 15:28.13 | heedly | you state opinions, I state facts. |
| 15:28.36 | coppice | minor things. it does nothing to help with the real time consuming issues |
| 15:28.54 | jameswf-home | who wants to hear a true story i just made up |
| 15:29.06 | tzafrir_laptop | losing all the history of a file on move was a really misfeature of CVS et al. |
| 15:29.10 | loompek | [Sep 22 16:28:06] WARNING[9497]: translate.c:175 framein: no samples for alawtolin |
| 15:29.10 | loompek | -- Started music on hold, class 'default', on SIP/5060-081f80d0 |
| 15:29.11 | loompek | argh |
| 15:29.15 | loompek | still the same problem :( |
| 15:29.34 | loompek | ringback doesn't work :S |
| 15:29.35 | tzafrir_laptop | (or requiring the admin to manually move the file) |
| 15:30.11 | coppice | oh, yeah. SVN definitely cleans up some of the pain with a setup like sf |
| 15:31.12 | tzafrir_laptop | still, since I started to use git, there are a number of things I sorely miss in SVN, beyond the fact that it is not distriibuted |
| 15:31.47 | coppice | imagine if they'd put all that effort into one of the next generation control tools that were already going when SVN started :-) |
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| 15:32.03 | tzafrir_laptop | one bit of interface sugar is that git commands that emit more that a screenful of output, send it through PAGER |
| 15:33.12 | coppice | git is the new kid on the block, and arguably the best thought through. it builds on a lot of stuff going back a few years though. certainly to beyond the start of SVN |
| 15:35.24 | tzafrir_laptop | git and mercuruial were generated at about the same time. |
| 15:36.01 | tzafrir_laptop | bzr is likewise not of the first generation of distributed version control systems |
| 15:36.09 | coppice | mercurial is older, because linus said he looked at that and considered joining in. several things are a lot older than mercurial, though |
| 15:36.21 | tzafrir_laptop | (arch/tla/baz , darcs, and such) |
| 15:36.31 | tzafrir_laptop | older, but not much older |
| 15:36.51 | coppice | some of these things go back ages, and lacked the resources to push them forward |
| 15:37.21 | tzafrir_laptop | darcs is, I believe, the only one of the "older" ones that is still actually used. |
| 15:37.34 | tzafrir_laptop | and it has gone through a major revision (2.0) |
| 15:37.59 | tzafrir_laptop | but still has major performance issues and is rarely used |
| 15:38.41 | coppice | a come across famous projects using it from time to time. I think Nokia heavily use darcs |
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| 15:40.24 | tzafrir_laptop | Debian is dominated by SVN and Git |
| 15:40.29 | tzafrir_laptop | http://people.debian.org/~rfrancoise/vcs-stats-080624.png |
