| 00:00.17 | coppice | Danskmand: no. that's just an excuse the US uses for everything |
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| 00:00.49 | rasterix | "While ISDN was widely deployed by the telephone companies, may consider the standard to have been a flop, as it genereally failed to live up to its promises. The high costs of implementation, recurring charges and loack of coperation among the major industry players contributed to an environment that caused more problems than it solved." |
| 00:01.00 | coppice | the copper planning limit for BRI is usually the same as for analogue pairs |
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| 00:01.22 | coppice | rasterix: that much is true |
| 00:01.48 | Danskmand | coppice: Well, but pots is allready there.... |
| 00:02.21 | rasterix | i think "the high cost of implementation" is probably key |
| 00:02.25 | rasterix | to its doom |
| 00:02.51 | coppice | Danskmand: BRI reuses the same pairs used for POTS |
| 00:02.55 | Danskmand | Like in Germany, here in the old west-germany, we still use copper.....But in the former east-Germany, they had to replace everything anyway - so there they all have fiber.... |
| 00:03.15 | ManxPower | Danskmand: the telco hands you a fiber for your phone to plug into? |
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| 00:03.46 | rasterix | why would the telecom companies continue to invest in a technology they know will die (eventually) |
| 00:04.01 | coppice | all technologies will die |
| 00:04.04 | Danskmand | Nono....They are using fiber for the main wiring, and copper for "the last mile" .... |
| 00:04.06 | ManxPower | From a customer perspective it does not usually matter how the telco transports your service, as long as you get an analog or T-1/E-1 or whatever presented to the customer. |
| 00:04.18 | rasterix | yes but bri has already written out its will |
| 00:04.33 | ManxPower | rasterix: *nod* Being replaced with analog. |
| 00:04.47 | ManxPower | I mean, what else would replace BRI for voice? |
| 00:05.10 | coppice | if a small business in many european countries starts up today, they will install BRI |
| 00:05.19 | Danskmand | Well, here in Germany they talk about only -one- line into your house.... |
| 00:05.41 | Danskmand | Phone, Internet, radio and TV from one line... |
| 00:05.50 | ManxPower | Danskmand: why do you care? |
| 00:06.10 | ManxPower | I don't really CARE how phone, internet, radio, and TV get to me. As long as they get to me. |
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| 00:06.24 | rasterix | manxpower: well since in the UK British Telecom are actively pushing to get all home customers with ADSL onto VOIP... im guessing VOIP will replace BRI for voice |
| 00:06.58 | coppice | Danskmand: any, the bottom line for your problem..... there is no robust BRI solution available for linux today. although a lot of people are crying out for it, nobody has really done anything serious about a solutionn |
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| 00:07.46 | Danskmand | Coppice: Do you have any idea why noone is working on this ? |
| 00:07.59 | rasterix | im just basing my view on that of the largest telecoms company in the uk... and if they want it to happen it probably will |
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| 00:08.10 | [TK]D-Fender | coppice: Sounds uncharacteristic. BRI is digital so you'd think that it'd be a more predictable environment, and that so much Linux dev takes place in EU as well... |
| 00:08.28 | rasterix | manxpower: but ill be sure to let them know you think they are wrong |
| 00:08.40 | ManxPower | Even DIGIUM uses mISDN for their BRI card. |
| 00:08.47 | coppice | rasterix: these things are not technological. they are commercial, and the right commercial trick varies with the market. the trick in the US is "fibre to the home" so they can rip out the existing copper and close down all comptition. Maybe in the UK it is to play games with DSL right now |
| 00:09.14 | drmessano | Telco would rather give you a 2 channel PRI than a BRI |
| 00:09.21 | coppice | I think Digium is trying to get bristuff like code into libpri, because mISDN is a disaster |
| 00:09.32 | ManxPower | coppice: from what little I've read it seems like BT is trying to push out the competition -- much like the USA carriers are doing. |
| 00:09.51 | Danskmand | rasterix: Here in Germany it doesnt pay off for me to use VOIP...the main company gives me a flatrate for using voice all around Germany AND 2 countrys (Yes, also Hawaii) for a fixed flatrate...For ISDN, not VOIP..... |
| 00:09.53 | rasterix | their VOIP sucks |
| 00:10.04 | rasterix | it is SIP based |
| 00:10.19 | jaytee | wonders if he should be nervous about Digium putting bristuff code into libpri. |
| 00:10.21 | ManxPower | Danskmand: how popular is BRI for voice in Germany? |
| 00:10.21 | Danskmand | 2 countrys = 25 countrys... |
| 00:10.38 | ManxPower | jaytee: naw, the lawyers will fight it out ahead of time. |
| 00:10.47 | drmessano | Isn't most ISP VoIP SIP based? |
| 00:10.59 | jaytee | whew! |
| 00:11.03 | rasterix | but you have to "hack" it to connect to one of their voip phones from another SIP phone |
| 00:11.16 | ManxPower | drmessano: they are talking about carriers, not ISPs. Carriers like AT&T, BellSouth, BT, |
| 00:11.18 | Danskmand | Manx: Oh, its all over....ppl with POTS are paying more than ppl with BRI... |
| 00:11.42 | ManxPower | Danskmand: so not a total failure in Germany at least. |
| 00:12.04 | Danskmand | Not at all... |
| 00:12.16 | ManxPower | Nor in the Netherlands, from what I saw when I was there. |
| 00:12.19 | rasterix | your SIP address is alkdfkladfkalflk@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx |
| 00:12.32 | rasterix | where xxx... is a dynamic IP |
| 00:12.45 | jaytee | anyone here have Comcast and use some other ITSP? I've been wondering if ComCraptastic would play games with any voip traffic over their network that isn't their voip traffic. |
| 00:12.45 | Danskmand | That is why I am wondering why noone is making "something" for Faxes... |
| 00:13.04 | drmessano | jaytee: No they dont |
| 00:13.35 | ManxPower | I highly doubt a cable company's phone service has to fight for bandwidth with the user's internet service. |
| 00:14.14 | CrazyTux[m] | when calling sip show channels, how is it possible for it to fluctuate from 86, 0, 84, 0, 83, 0 <- with consequtive, calls to "sip show channels" |
| 00:14.22 | jaytee | I have one of my older P4 boxes running * on CentOS and while I have an FXO port I'd really love to cancel my AT&T landline. I use it for maybe 3 calls a year and all I get for incoming calls are telemarketers and the like. |
| 00:14.36 | rasterix | manxpower: but surely bandwidth isnt the reason they would play games with VOIP traffic |
| 00:14.42 | murdock_ut | jaytee: I don't think they do, but what is weird is that I had Vonage for a few years with out many problems, but I switched over to Vitelity and I seem to have more problems. I don't know if something as changed with Comcast, or Vitelity is not as reliable. |
| 00:15.10 | drmessano | ManxPower: Comcast provisions voice customers with an extra 25% - 50% overhead on limits to account for VoIP, and yes, you can bog the connection down to where the quality suffers |
| 00:15.17 | rasterix | that said i bet BT give priority to their voice traffic |
| 00:15.55 | drmessano | But I think they prioritize voice traffic period |
| 00:16.10 | ManxPower | drmessano: Interesting. In Cox New Orleans, as I understand it, they have dedicated bandwidth on their network for their voice stuff (I doubt their voice even uses IP) |
| 00:16.14 | coppice | Danskmand: if you are using anything other than BRI there are robust solutions for high volume FAX. what is lacking is a BRI interface that works. |
| 00:16.17 | rasterix | its kind of depressing how you think a monopoly like BT will be brought down by VOIP but in the end it turns out that always win |
| 00:16.33 | drmessano | You can make it suffer, but a call on THEIR service and a call I made over SIP saw both suffer when I pounded the bandwidth |
| 00:16.45 | rasterix | everyone will end up using BT voip services |
| 00:16.52 | ManxPower | You CAN send voice over a network without it having to be IP. 8-| |
| 00:16.57 | rasterix | and be limited to calling other BT VOIP phones |
| 00:17.04 | [TK]D-Fender | VoFR :) |
| 00:17.04 | murdock_ut | Anyone else here using Vitelity? |
| 00:17.13 | drmessano | VoIPX |
| 00:17.26 | drmessano | VoNetBeui |
| 00:17.33 | Danskmand | coppice: Do you think about faxing over the internet ? |
| 00:17.46 | drmessano | VoVines |
| 00:17.59 | coppice | rasterix: VoIP is a purely commercial thing. it is not technological at all. technically it is insane - a hugely complex bunch of kit struggling to get anywhere near the voice quality of a 100 year old system. VoIP wins only because it bypasses tollgates |
| 00:18.29 | Danskmand | coppice: RIGHT ! |
| 00:18.35 | drmessano | I think it's time we bust open IPX and fire up some Open Novell VoIP |
| 00:18.44 | drmessano | VoIPX will rule |
| 00:18.56 | rasterix | coppice: i think thats shortsighted... there will come a time when bandwidth is no issue |
| 00:19.12 | coppice | Danskmand: faxing over the internet is a disaster if you use normal audio signals. If you use T.38 is it better. T.37 is the sane approach - encapsulation of FAXes in e-mails |
| 00:19.41 | coppice | rasterix: bandwidth is not an issue right now, for many people. jitter, latency, and other crap won't go away, though |
| 00:20.05 | drmessano | Voice protocols were not meant to carry data.. period |
| 00:20.26 | [TK]D-Fender | Voice IS dat |
| 00:20.29 | [TK]D-Fender | data* |
| 00:20.33 | rasterix | coppice: just like bandwidth there will come a time when latency is not an issue |
| 00:20.54 | coppice | IP people like to look down on ATM, but its a sane system. Audio goes first. Video next. Bulk data fills in the remaining spaces. Everything is rigidly prioritised. |
| 00:20.55 | drmessano | So data is voice? |
| 00:21.13 | drmessano | and protocols optimized for voice are good for data? |
| 00:21.18 | coppice | rasterix: that's a belief in pixy dust rather than engineering |
| 00:22.11 | rasterix | coppice: thats ridiculous... it wasnt that long ago we were lucky to get 8kbps |
| 00:22.17 | coppice | unless you have a commercially realistic way to prioritise the backbone latency and jitter will never go away |
| 00:22.18 | Danskmand | coppice: When you said "If you are using anything other than BRI there are robust solutions for high volume FAX." - which solutions were you thinking of then ? |
| 00:22.38 | coppice | spandsp, or spandsp + iaxmodem + hylafax+ |
| 00:23.52 | coppice | rasterix: the ridiculous thing is a vague assumption that as more bandwidth is installed there will be nothing to fill it up and restore the current status quo |
| 00:24.08 | drmessano | If you build it, they will use it |
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| 00:24.15 | rasterix | coppice: call back in 5 years so i can laugh at you :) |
| 00:24.31 | drmessano | Thinking you can build more than people will use is incredibly shortsighted |
| 00:25.05 | rasterix | thinking that a voip channel out of each house will become an insignificant factor isnt shortsighted |
| 00:25.19 | coppice | rasterix: so you buy into the current messed up state of 3G, and believe nobody has any use for new bandwidth? |
| 00:25.44 | drmessano | <rasterix> thinking that a voip channel out of each house will become an insignificant factor isnt shortsighted <--- What???? |
| 00:26.02 | rasterix | wont* |
| 00:26.05 | rasterix | :) |
| 00:26.05 | coppice | rasterix: the channel out of your house is irrelevant. its what happens when it hits the backbone that matters. your local link can be fully prioritised |
| 00:26.30 | Danskmand | Ok - I need to hit the pillows for now :-) - Thanks a lot for your wise words :-) - Talk to you later ! |
| 00:26.41 | rasterix | tbh and i dont mean to be patronising... but your naievity is boring me... im gonna go get a drink |
| 00:26.54 | drmessano | lol |
| 00:27.07 | drmessano | Did he just say what I... no.. |
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| 00:28.31 | coppice | I think he need engineering and history classes |
| 00:28.43 | drmessano | I dunno about history |
| 00:28.47 | drmessano | But engineering, yes |
| 00:29.06 | nr4q | caffinates |
| 00:29.30 | coppice | history: I've used 110bps up to 40G, and I ain't ever had enough bandwidth :-) |
| 00:29.31 | rasterix | i think you need history classes... engineers telling people what cant be done because they are so absorbed by their own bit of knowledge... "cant see the wood for the trees" springs to mind |
| 00:29.47 | drmessano | forest |
| 00:29.49 | drmessano | not wood |
| 00:30.08 | rasterix | w/e |
| 00:30.18 | nr4q | ...wood for the trees... I'm going to use that |
| 00:30.26 | rasterix | lol |
| 00:30.33 | drmessano | That's the dumbest thing I have heard on IRC in hours |
| 00:30.39 | coppice | I knew it. He does believe in pixy dust |
| 00:30.41 | rasterix | we should bring back tomorrows world |
| 00:30.43 | jaytee | and several decades from now when there are no trees the expression will have evolved to "can't see the forest for the domains" |
| 00:30.47 | rasterix | you guys can go on it |
| 00:31.00 | rasterix | and everyone can laugh at you in 10 years time |
| 00:31.01 | nr4q | speaking of trees i have a link for everyone |
| 00:31.36 | nr4q | tree relates: http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1829759 |
| 00:32.08 | Danskmand | ...Or was it "cant see my woody for trees" ;-) |
| 00:32.21 | nr4q | gross |
| 00:32.33 | jaytee | <nr4q> tree relates: http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1829759 <------ almost 2 weeks old |
| 00:32.48 | drmessano | rasterix, you strike me as one of those people that wrote the "Life in the year 1990" sorta books 50 years ago when they thought everyone would be riding around on nuclear powered skateboards and shit |
| 00:32.57 | nr4q | jaytee: talking about trees made me think of it. so that's already been around this #? |
| 00:33.02 | drmessano | I think those people still live at home with "mom" |
| 00:33.04 | x86 | I've got a Cisco 2611XM router with 12.4 advanced ip IOS on it, is it possible to get some SIP phones to register against it, and pass calls to my asterisk system over a T1/PRI interface? |
| 00:33.23 | jaytee | yeah been around in here already |
| 00:33.48 | nr4q | goes back to caffinating |
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| 00:34.19 | rasterix | oh your pathetic... in real english the phrase is "cant see the wood for the trees" |
| 00:34.48 | rasterix | earliest recording of this phrase was in 1546 by John Heywoods |
| 00:34.56 | rasterix | so s*** |
| 00:35.00 | drmessano | you're |
| 00:35.05 | drmessano | Not your |
| 00:35.10 | drmessano | you're or "you are" |
| 00:35.23 | drmessano | Seems you're the one with english problems |
| 00:35.28 | rasterix | how many times do you want to be wrong in one night drmessano |
| 00:35.37 | rasterix | your last bit of sarcasme showed ignorance |
| 00:35.37 | nr4q | your so pathetic its a shame |
| 00:35.41 | rasterix | please keep going |
| 00:35.43 | heedly | hehe |
| 00:35.48 | rasterix | sarcasm* |
| 00:35.59 | drmessano | sarcasme too |
| 00:36.02 | drmessano | Good stuff |
| 00:36.06 | jaytee | "Welcome to Remedial English/WWF KnockDown 101, let's open our books to page 3 and please hit the person to your right with a folding chair" |
| 00:36.09 | rasterix | already corrected |
| 00:36.14 | rasterix | too slow |
| 00:36.32 | nr4q | and.....begin |
| 00:37.06 | drmessano | I don't know what's funnier.. how ignorant you are, or how much your ignorance comes out when you're telling me how ignorant I am. |
| 00:37.16 | drmessano | Hmm... Has to be option 2 |
| 00:37.39 | drmessano | "your retarded" come to mind? |
| 00:37.51 | rasterix | so please... "cant see the wood for the trees" < your opening gambit... forest... you were totally wrong |
| 00:38.01 | drmessano | forest is indeed correct |
| 00:38.10 | rasterix | go google it moron |
| 00:38.15 | drmessano | Perhaps you need to re-snopes that one |
| 00:38.18 | rasterix | thats www.google.com |
| 00:38.24 | rasterix | just trying to help |
| 00:38.28 | nr4q | everything on google is correct |
| 00:38.44 | drmessano | nr4q: So is wikipedia |
| 00:38.58 | rasterix | lol you just cant admit you were wrong can you |
| 00:39.00 | nr4q | touche |
| 00:40.10 | plik | Results 1 - 10 of about 28,600 for "can't see the wood for the trees" vs Results 1 - 10 of about 143,000 for "can't see the forest for the trees" |
| 00:40.18 | drmessano | rasterix: I was just thinking the same |
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| 00:41.21 | nr4q | you know the reason both of you are wrong is my fault. it's something I did |
| 00:41.32 | jaytee | I'd say forest is the clear winner over wood......at least for Google |
| 00:41.46 | drmessano | plik: Showing a 6 to 1 win for forest is meaningless.. wait, no |
| 00:41.53 | rasterix | because their are more american references perhaps |
| 00:42.04 | rasterix | and american's are always right... *snigger* |
| 00:42.11 | drmessano | Oh, you're british |
| 00:42.17 | rasterix | thats right |
| 00:42.22 | rasterix | and its our language |
| 00:42.23 | drmessano | I knew there was something... |
| 00:42.28 | drmessano | Couldn't place it |
| 00:42.32 | rasterix | and its wood not forest |
| 00:42.37 | nr4q | hahahahah |
| 00:42.38 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: "wood" wins. Just enter "sex" and see how many hits you get ;) |
| 00:42.44 | jaytee | haha |
| 00:42.49 | [TK]D-Fender | <- winnar |
| 00:42.52 | nr4q | rasterix: it's is a contraction of it and is. its shows possession |
| 00:43.31 | nr4q | drinks more coffee |
| 00:43.32 | jaytee | I was just ruminating over why there are no righttenants in the RAF. They have lefttenants. Kinda one-sided. |
| 00:44.00 | drmessano | Here I thought that rasterix was an ignorant, self-absorbed, arrogant, pretentious little prick.. But now that I know he's british. |
| 00:44.21 | rasterix | drmessano for that kind of abuse your dumb ass should be banned |
| 00:44.41 | rasterix | you truly are pathetic your actually getting stressed |
| 00:44.44 | rasterix | thats hillarious |
| 00:44.46 | jaytee | Lost re-runs running on Sci-Fi. Never caught the first season so I thought I'd check it out. mmmmph, a polar bear on a tropical island? what crap! |
| 00:44.54 | nr4q | slow jerks |
| 00:44.54 | drmessano | You're the one getting emo and googling |
| 00:45.09 | rasterix | [01:44] <drmessano> Here I thought that rasterix was an ignorant,self-absorbed, arrogant, pretentious little prick.. But now that I know he's british. |
| 00:45.15 | drmessano | I think you're perfectly laughable |
| 00:45.28 | nr4q | jaytee: speaking of tropical islands and crap, i just watched tropic thunder last night.... |
| 00:45.29 | rasterix | < asks the question to the mods is that acceptable in here? |
| 00:45.35 | drmessano | lol |
| 00:45.51 | drmessano | I am the one getting stressed? lol |
| 00:45.53 | jaytee | you two better settle down or I'm going to have to send you both to the Principal's office!!! |
| 00:45.57 | rasterix | lol |
| 00:46.27 | drmessano | <rasterix> MODS, OPS, HAX!!! BAN!! ZOMG!!! I R BABY!!! CRUMPETS!! |
| 00:46.30 | drmessano | Indeed |
| 00:47.16 | rasterix | [01:44] <drmessano> Here I thought that rasterix was an ignorant,self-absorbed, arrogant, pretentious little prick.. But now that I know he's british. |
| 00:47.29 | drmessano | Stressed? |
| 00:47.37 | rasterix | nope |
| 00:47.39 | rasterix | :) |
| 00:47.47 | [TK]D-Fender | rasterix: drmessano is just a flame-baiting troll. He's just like Eminem, he'll go away when you ignore him. |
| 00:47.51 | drmessano | You keep pasting like you're completely upset... |
| 00:48.00 | drmessano | ha |
| 00:48.10 | rasterix | oh im not upset |
| 00:48.11 | [TK]D-Fender | rasterix: And you never EVER over-react yourself... |
| 00:48.15 | rasterix | but ill keep pasting it |
| 00:48.22 | rasterix | from time to time |
| 00:48.26 | drmessano | Please do |
| 00:48.33 | [TK]D-Fender | "You haven't seen me really upset" - A truely pretentious prick. |
| 00:48.35 | jaytee | Bush administration wants to ban gambling in Second Life. I am so proud of the way they keep focused on serious issues coming up to an election. |
| 00:48.35 | rasterix | because it shows just how small you really are |
| 00:49.10 | drmessano | You're adorable, rasterix |
| 00:50.45 | drmessano | and [TK]D-Fender: You may want to google something about people in glass houses |
| 00:51.06 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: www.ecomodder.com - they've got plenty :) |
| 00:51.39 | [TK]D-Fender | tosses a few more rocks. |
| 00:51.49 | jaytee | to quote Rodney King, "Can't we all just get along?" BIFF!! BAM!!!! POW!!!! owwww! stop!!! owwwww!!!! |
| 00:52.19 | [TK]D-Fender | Jerry! Jerry! Jerry! Jerry! Jerry! |
| 00:52.44 | jaytee | lol |
| 00:53.25 | jaytee | hums.......When the moon is in the Seventh House |
| 00:53.26 | jaytee | And Jupiter aligns with Mars |
| 00:53.26 | jaytee | Then peace will guide the planets |
| 00:53.26 | jaytee | And love will steer the stars |
| 00:53.26 | jaytee | This is the dawning of the Age of Aquarius |
| 00:53.27 | jaytee | Age of Aquarius |
| 00:53.28 | jaytee | Aquarius! Aquarius! |
| 00:53.40 | drmessano | Z0MG |
| 00:53.52 | drmessano | gets angry and flips out |
| 00:53.54 | drmessano | ~pb |
| 00:53.55 | jbot | [~pb] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste |
| 00:54.00 | jaytee | hahaha |
| 00:54.00 | drmessano | ^^^^ ZOOOOOOOMMMGGG |
| 00:54.38 | drmessano | slurs at the mouth and screams "PRASTEBIN, HAX!! HAX!!! |
| 00:55.03 | drmessano | I need to go watch that "you stole my cloudsong" again |
| 00:55.25 | jaytee | Benny Lava FTW! |
| 00:56.11 | drmessano | This is hilarious. |
| 00:56.15 | CrazyTux[m] | [TK]D-Fender, quick question, for the guru. |
| 00:56.37 | CrazyTux[m] | [TK]D-Fender, how can 'sip show channels', fluctuate like: 80, 0, 90, 0 |
| 00:56.48 | CrazyTux[m] | [TK]D-Fender, from consecutive calls. |
| 00:57.06 | CrazyTux[m] | [TK]D-Fender, I'm calling sip show channels, in microseconds though however... |
| 00:57.17 | CrazyTux[m] | [TK]D-Fender, perhaps * can not keep up with it? |
| 00:57.55 | jaytee | cool! the Tennessee River is full of caffiene, anti-biotics, anti-depressants and cholesterol lowering drugs. |
| 00:58.37 | jaytee | I could save a ton on prescription meds if I moved near there. |
| 00:59.45 | drmessano | Just think of all the wild, crazy, disease-free, happy, healthy little bluegrass girls you could chase around |
| 00:59.49 | drmessano | I'm so leaving |
| 01:00.04 | [TK]D-Fender | CrazyTux[m]: thats just a SIP response rate varying by network parameters as well as the responsivenes o fhte nedpoint. It isn't a raw ping, but a SIP response to "Options". Polycom for instance prioritizes them really low and the rates are not what you might expect |
| 01:00.25 | jaytee | hey, fourteen bucks a month for simvastatin adds up over time. |
| 01:00.33 | CrazyTux[m] | [TK]D-Fender, this is all local to local |
| 01:01.06 | [TK]D-Fender | CrazyTux[m]: Again, compare a Polycom to another phone and you can see some big differences. Just ignore it |
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| 01:01.30 | CrazyTux[m] | [TK]D-Fender, well, not really dealing with real phones, this is all outbound calls |
| 01:06.11 | [TK]D-Fender | CrazyTux[m]: what part of "100 factors" is not sinking in? Stop worying about 10 friggen ms. |
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| 01:07.01 | CrazyTux[m] | [TK]D-Fender, I think we're on a different page |
| 01:07.25 | CrazyTux[m] | [TK]D-Fender, I'm talking about Asterisk Manager, and sending the command 'sip show channels', and parsing out the "Active Channels" |
| 01:08.06 | CrazyTux[m] | [TK]D-Fender, not really latency between, a connection, but rather information being sent back that is incorrect |
| 01:09.08 | CrazyTux[m] | Active Channels: 74, 0, 80, 0, 80, 0, 80, 0, 90, 0 over the course of microseconds |
| 01:09.28 | CrazyTux[m] | [TK]D-Fender, so it seems as if, perhaps the script is running to fast for asterisk to keep up with? |
| 01:10.53 | [TK]D-Fender | CrazyTux[m]: What "script" and you should normally not be staring at "sip show channels" vs "core show channels |
| 01:11.25 | CrazyTux[m] | [TK]D-Fender, a home brewed script, that I need to know the count of channels, very very very quickly and accurately |
| 01:14.59 | jblack | Then you don't want a script. |
| 01:15.08 | jblack | You want something that listens to the ami and keeps count. |
| 01:15.26 | jeev | rock lobster |
| 01:15.33 | CrazyTux[m] | jblack, any more info on that |
| 01:15.56 | jblack | The ami? Yeah. It's in the book, and google rarely disapoints. |
| 01:16.24 | CrazyTux[m] | jblack, I am listening to asterisk manager |
| 01:16.28 | CrazyTux[m] | jblack, if thats what you mean |
| 01:16.45 | CrazyTux[m] | jblack, http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+manager+API |
| 01:16.48 | CrazyTux[m] | right? |
| 01:16.52 | jblack | THen you're already doing the most accurate thing possible. |
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| 01:21.33 | teknoprep | has anyone else here run ESXi on a hardware assisted virtualization CPU. like an AMD-V... and then run an asterisk guest OS |
| 01:21.49 | teknoprep | i found that omfg.. it runs great |
| 01:21.58 | teknoprep | no transcoding or timing issues |
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| 01:30.43 | drmessano | I tried to run ESXi on an underpowered box |
| 01:30.46 | drmessano | It laughed at me |
| 01:31.17 | drmessano | It said "You want me to run on this? HA.. I can EMULATE one of those." |
| 01:35.51 | teknoprep | lol |
| 01:36.27 | teknoprep | i have 2x quad quad-core amd opterons with 32GB of ram... running on an HP AIO1200 x2 |
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| 01:36.38 | teknoprep | the HP AIO1200 x2 are the SAN Storage |
| 01:37.11 | teknoprep | that runs the entire network and it barely touches the surface at work |
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| 01:48.13 | synchris | teknoprep, sounds good |
| 01:54.52 | teknoprep | synchris, yeah i really like it |
| 01:56.17 | synchris | gosch u can stress out this machine ...and u will see nothing |
| 01:56.25 | synchris | no load... |
| 01:56.27 | synchris | :S |
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| 01:56.48 | synchris | except if u are running some discrete calculations |
| 01:56.48 | synchris | ;p |
| 01:59.31 | teknoprep | ? |
| 01:59.55 | synchris | we dont speak for a supercomputer |
| 01:59.55 | synchris | ;p |
| 02:00.06 | synchris | but 8 cores with 32gb memory |
| 02:00.10 | synchris | it;s not a joke |
| 02:00.11 | synchris | ;p |
| 02:00.13 | teknoprep | 16 cores |
| 02:00.22 | teknoprep | quad quad core opterons |
| 02:00.28 | synchris | :S |
| 02:00.30 | synchris | :S |
| 02:00.33 | teknoprep | yeah |
| 02:00.34 | teknoprep | lol |
| 02:00.46 | synchris | hey hey |
| 02:00.49 | teknoprep | too bad i can only add 4 CPU's per Guest OS |
| 02:01.25 | teknoprep | each VMware ESXi host runs 8 gigabit ethernet connections |
| 02:01.40 | synchris | aargh |
| 02:01.41 | teknoprep | 4 for SAN and 4 for TRUNK ports to VLAN capable switches |
| 02:02.01 | synchris | i feel the heart attack coming |
| 02:02.03 | teknoprep | 4gbit for VMotion is nice |
| 02:02.03 | synchris | :P |
| 02:02.19 | jaytee | WOW!!! I bet you could even run Windows Calculator on one of those! |
| 02:02.25 | teknoprep | lol |
| 02:02.29 | synchris | sure |
| 02:02.32 | synchris | ;p |
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| 02:12.58 | Digitalirony | Got an error |
| 02:13.01 | Digitalirony | WARNING[23007]: chan_zap.c:1059 zt_digit_begin: Couldn't |
| 02:13.01 | Digitalirony | dial digit 1 |
| 02:13.59 | Digitalirony | This is happening when a digit is dialed on an IVR over an E1 |
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| 02:17.41 | drmessano | I just paid $5 a gallon for gas |
| 02:17.46 | drmessano | I feel so... worldly |
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| 02:18.54 | drmessano | 32GB of ram.. ha |
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| 02:19.22 | drmessano | I run 640GB here.. which Bill Gates told me should be enough for anyone |
| 02:19.43 | drmessano | Of course, he meant that in the context of running Vista comfortably |
| 02:22.45 | mchou | drmessano: where the hell is this where you paid over $5/gal for gas?? |
| 02:23.20 | mchou | drmessano: I didnt think Ike screwed that much with the price at the pump yet |
| 02:23.51 | [TK]D-Fender | Once again, US production vs consumption = no excuse |
| 02:24.33 | drmessano | All over the area it's $5 here |
| 02:24.34 | drmessano | In GA |
| 02:24.44 | drmessano | Supposed to be higher tomorrow |
| 02:24.50 | mchou | wow. That's incredible |
| 02:24.58 | drmessano | I barely found someone that had gas |
| 02:25.07 | mchou | IKE already affected price at the pump |
| 02:25.07 | drmessano | About 20% of the stations here have it |
| 02:25.19 | drmessano | Gas has been over $4 since Friday dude |
| 02:25.33 | mchou | $4 is "normal" :) |
| 02:25.37 | mchou | $5 is not |
| 02:25.47 | LoRez | it's $3.59 here. |
| 02:25.52 | drmessano | $3.39 was normal |
| 02:26.20 | mchou | drmessano: we're speaking relativistically, of course |
| 02:26.25 | drmessano | it went up .70 in one day, then flipped around on sat-sun between $4 and $4.50 |
| 02:26.36 | drmessano | Now it's $5 IF you can find it |
| 02:26.46 | mchou | drmessano: me thinks there's price gouging in GA |
| 02:26.55 | drmessano | All over the southeast |
| 02:27.00 | mchou | or some manipulation |
| 02:27.14 | drmessano | It's isn't gouging if they don't have gas |
| 02:27.26 | drmessano | Supply and demand |
| 02:27.32 | drmessano | Most stations are out of it |
| 02:30.18 | [hC] | so my chanspy recordings come out in .raw format, can i change that? |
| 02:30.50 | mchou | I feel sorry for ppl in TX. There was a run on power generators. Now they dont have gas |
| 02:30.59 | stencil | I think getting the oil men out of the white house might help lower gas prices! |
| 02:31.06 | mchou | still no power |
| 02:31.11 | [hC] | ah rgghh, its hard coded |
| 02:31.16 | mchou | stencil: dont be delusional man |
| 02:31.32 | jaytee | pissing into the wind would be just as effective |
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| 02:32.25 | mchou | stencil: I have no love for current residents of WH but even a change in admin isnt going to change oil prices that much |
| 02:32.37 | stencil | government regulation |
| 02:32.45 | jeev | only if the wind was blowing mccain's direction |
| 02:32.51 | mchou | lol |
| 02:33.13 | mchou | jeev: maybe he'd remember how many houses he owns then :) |
| 02:33.21 | stencil | lol |
| 02:33.22 | jeev | lol |
| 02:33.29 | jeev | maybe he'd taste what ever other american is tasting. |
| 02:33.43 | mchou | pissy beer? |
| 02:33.52 | jeev | a horrible life and economy |
| 02:34.12 | mchou | jeev: you missed my innuendo man :) |
| 02:34.24 | jeev | sure did |
| 02:34.26 | jeev | i tried to nap |
| 02:34.28 | jeev | failed. |
| 02:34.28 | jaytee | sounds like one of those "kill the rich! eat their children!" radicals |
| 02:34.49 | mchou | jeev: you know mccain's wife is a beer heiress, right? |
| 02:35.00 | jblack | rich children make for great veal. |
| 02:35.14 | jeev | oh, no wonder |
| 02:35.18 | jeev | hahh jblack |
| 02:35.21 | jeev | all you think about is food |
| 02:35.31 | jeev | mchou, no wonder he's worth 100 mil |
| 02:35.38 | jaytee | which beer company? is it Miller? cuz their MGD tastes like piss to me. |
| 02:35.49 | jeev | i dont drink but apparently my friends laugh at domestic beer. |
| 02:35.50 | jblack | Don't worry... That's all a lot of people will be thinking about in 6 months |
| 02:35.55 | mchou | man, you guys need to be INFORMED |
| 02:35.59 | jeev | lol jblack |
| 02:36.23 | mchou | how can you not know McCain's wife is a beer heiress?? |
| 02:36.24 | jeev | mchou, maybe if you typed faster than 3 words a minute, we'd learn |
| 02:36.28 | mchou | lol |
| 02:36.30 | jeev | why do i care |
| 02:36.41 | jeev | i'd 3way mccain's wife if jaytee joined me. |
| 02:36.41 | jblack | seriously. I'm expecting unemployment to be no less than 15 percent before 2012 |
| 02:36.50 | jeev | jblack, if either win ? |
| 02:37.09 | jeev | if either win, the economy is going to the shitter |
| 02:37.11 | jblack | Either one. Even if RP2008!! won. |
| 02:37.14 | jeev | obama will just try to keep it up harder |
| 02:37.38 | jblack | This a train wreck. Nobody can stop it |
| 02:37.50 | jeev | but.. but... |
| 02:37.54 | jeev | mccain says everything is ok! |
| 02:38.05 | jblack | but nothing. You'll have your misery, and you'll enjoy it. |
| 02:38.18 | jeev | but i think i wouldn't mind fucking palin |
| 02:38.25 | jeev | mcbush/stalin 2008! |
| 02:38.28 | drmessano | I hate to send like an American blowhard jerkwad, but you know, all I want to do is be free to drive my Humvee to the supermarket, load up some plastic bags full of stryofoam cups, plastic forks, knives, spoons, paper plates, prepackaged deli meat in little plastic boxes, loaves of wonderful fatty white bread, and a few 6-packs of coca-cola and have a nice day enjoying nature with my family. |
| 02:38.32 | drmessano | Is that soo much to ask? |
| 02:38.50 | jaytee | hahahaaa |
| 02:39.00 | M-I-A | lmfao |
| 02:39.17 | jblack | heh. I'm not sure if you guys really undersatnd _just_ how bad things are. |
| 02:39.26 | jblack | We're not talking just housing. |
| 02:39.45 | UnixDawg | does the asterisk http server support fcgi ? |
| 02:39.54 | jblack | If you can watch this, and not piss your pants, I'll give you a dollar. http://www.chrismartenson.com/crashcourse |
| 02:40.02 | jaytee | jblack, some of us do but we'd rather be in a state of ignorant bliss like the majority of stupid americans that voted Bush in twice. |
| 02:40.09 | drmessano | Ok, so those little plastic rings on the 6-packs choke dolphins. Tell those stupid sea turds to STOP eating PLASTIC. |
| 02:40.32 | jaytee | the same ones that thought tax cuts without spending cuts was a fiscally sound idea |
| 02:41.55 | drmessano | Oh |
| 02:42.03 | drmessano | and the best part of my gas trip |
| 02:42.20 | jblack | the colon? |
| 02:42.50 | jeev | as bill maher said |
| 02:43.15 | jeev | republicans know very well that they're playing a game, they know simply american's are stupid and they believe whatever the republicans say but everything is false. |
| 02:43.40 | drmessano | I get to the service station I finally settled on, mainly due to it's abundant lighting (so at least I can see who my attacker is), and this guy drives up in a 12mpg ford truck... Tells me he's going to convert his vehicle to KEROSENE "like they do over in the UK" so he can stop paying for gas |
| 02:43.40 | jblack | name a politician that doesn't. |
| 02:43.47 | drmessano | I hope he likes setting himself on fire |
| 02:43.47 | mchou | it's even more false if repeated often enough |
| 02:43.50 | drmessano | Dumbass rednecks |
| 02:43.57 | jeev | but the republicans are killing it already with their bullshit |
| 02:44.34 | drmessano | I'm gonna convert my VW bus to nuclear so I never have to use my headlights ever again. |
| 02:44.59 | mchou | kerosene. that's rich |
| 02:45.03 | drmessano | Yes |
| 02:45.10 | drmessano | He said there's kits for it online |
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| 02:45.15 | mchou | haha |
| 02:45.17 | drmessano | There's a LOT of things on the internet |
| 02:45.18 | mchou | pls stop |
| 02:45.21 | drmessano | A LOT |
| 02:45.24 | jeev | ? |
| 02:45.29 | jblack | Zombie movies are great when one watches them through the metaphor of "Poor people are zombies" |
| 02:46.15 | jblack | I think that's how republicans see the poor. i.e. those that make less than 40K a year. |
| 02:46.27 | jeev | the election is useless anyway |
| 02:46.46 | jeev | the sheep never get to pick their herder. |
| 02:46.48 | [TK]D-Fender | jblack: You mean those earning less that 5 MILLION don't you? |
| 02:46.56 | [TK]D-Fender | jblack: Like McSame said ;) |
| 02:46.56 | jaytee | I'm looking for the guy who converts his F-350 to burn coal |
| 02:46.58 | teknoprep | jblack you mean those that make less than 100k a year |
| 02:47.21 | teknoprep | i am going to make 80k this year... and i do not benefit from republican's |
| 02:47.22 | jblack | Median income is 42K a year, which is the middle class. |
| 02:47.31 | jblack | You qualify as rich. |
| 02:47.31 | mchou | I dont know anyone that makes $40K/yr. |
| 02:47.45 | mchou | Tha's less than minimum wage |
| 02:47.51 | teknoprep | lol |
| 02:47.51 | mchou | that's* |
| 02:47.56 | jeev | no it's not |
| 02:47.59 | teknoprep | minimum wage is like 7.50 per hour |
| 02:48.03 | jblack | You make much more than is necessary to sustain basic requirements. If you're not rich, then it's because you're too stupid to save. |
| 02:48.05 | teknoprep | and its like 12-13k per year |
| 02:48.09 | teknoprep | or somethin stupidly low |
| 02:48.16 | mchou | teknoprep: no, it depends on the state you're in |
| 02:48.27 | teknoprep | jblack, i save alot |
| 02:48.33 | mchou | or even county, for that matter |
| 02:48.49 | teknoprep | jblack, i might spend 45k per year to live the way i do |
| 02:49.33 | jblack | So, you live rich, rather than save to become rich. Your choice. <shrug> |
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| 02:49.36 | drmessano | You spend 45k to make 80k? |
| 02:49.46 | drmessano | So you make 35k |
| 02:49.50 | teknoprep | no |
| 02:49.57 | teknoprep | i spend 45k per year on bills |
| 02:49.59 | jeev | jaytee spends 45k a year on rollerblade repairs |
| 02:50.00 | teknoprep | like my house |
| 02:50.01 | teknoprep | car |
| 02:50.06 | teknoprep | living expenses |
| 02:50.18 | drmessano | I spent 10k last year on Yo-Yo's |
| 02:50.20 | teknoprep | just buying stuff |
| 02:50.22 | drmessano | I am a FANATIC |
| 02:50.23 | jaytee | I spend maybe 100 bucks on new bearings and wheels a year |
| 02:50.31 | jeev | lolol |
| 02:50.39 | jeev | how much you spend on the short shorts |
| 02:50.49 | jblack | I make $36k a year from disability, and I manage to say $6k of that a year. |
| 02:50.53 | drmessano | I have this effing Yo-Yo that will cut your balls off |
| 02:50.54 | teknoprep | i wear the short shorts when i hit the ghey bar |
| 02:50.55 | jblack | save, that is. |
| 02:50.56 | teknoprep | you know |
| 02:51.02 | teknoprep | the little boys love it |
| 02:51.06 | jaytee | which is better than spending 2500 bucks on an annual fee for a credit card so I can look "cool" and "impress the women" |
| 02:51.12 | drmessano | ROFL |
| 02:51.14 | jeev | lol |
| 02:51.18 | jeev | i dont want to impress women |
| 02:51.22 | jeev | i got the most beautiful girl |
| 02:51.22 | km2 | my polycom phones are "taking" their default digit maps, e.g. if i dial '209' it won't dial until i press Send, even though the default digit map should handle this (i see it in the .cfg files). anyone know where to begin troubleshooting this? |
| 02:51.26 | teknoprep | i want to impress little boys |
| 02:51.31 | teknoprep | like 10y/olds |
| 02:51.34 | jeev | lol |
| 02:51.37 | teknoprep | lol |
| 02:51.38 | drmessano | whips out his PetSmart Black Card |
| 02:51.41 | jeev | km2, have you tried changing your digit maps? |
| 02:52.40 | teknoprep | km2, make sure the phones are pulling the config from the server if you are using tftp or ftp.. if not try reseting the phone's flash |
| 02:52.49 | km2 | jeev, yeah, but the behavior doesn't change :( i'm probably missing something simple |
| 02:53.02 | jblack | You're probably not reloading the * config |
| 02:53.10 | km2 | teknoprep, thanks, didn't think about flash reset |
| 02:53.12 | jblack | Pardon, resetting the phones. |
| 02:53.13 | jeev | connect to the phone with firefox and check it there |
| 02:53.28 | teknoprep | jblack, that has nothing to do with * config |
| 02:53.46 | km2 | what do you mean by *? |
| 02:53.54 | km2 | oh |
| 02:53.55 | km2 | duh |
| 02:53.58 | teknoprep | lol |
| 02:53.59 | km2 | sorry, haven't been around in a while |
| 02:54.10 | jaytee | and check the timeouts that are set for any of the sections that have T in them. I've yet to come up with a perfect digitmap where I don't need timeouts to keep one part from stepping on the another part. |
| 02:54.12 | jblack | teknoprep: In case you missed it, just after that, I said "Pardon, resetting the phones" |
| 02:54.13 | teknoprep | * is the artist formerly known as asterisk |
| 02:54.38 | teknoprep | do i get quote of the day ? |
| 02:54.38 | drmessano | I probably qualify for a BP Amoco Black Card... if not for my outrageous fuel spending, but to signify that I too suffer like death at the pump |
| 02:54.45 | km2 | fortunately my * box is so stable i don't have to think about it for months at a time (and in this case i'm here about polycom) |
| 02:55.05 | teknoprep | * is stable ? |
| 02:55.15 | jblack | drmessano: A tank of gas lasts me 6 weeks. :P |
| 02:55.28 | km2 | at least in my office |
| 02:55.41 | jaytee | is it just me or has anyone noticed a trend where someone brags about how stable their * box is and then they're back 2 days later with some serious problem where it keeps crashing? |
| 02:55.44 | teknoprep | lol i have a hybrid and i use up my gas in a week |
| 02:55.57 | teknoprep | * is stable ? |
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| 02:56.10 | drmessano | You sound like my wife. She gets gas once every 4 to 5 weeks.. The ONE DAY she chooses to run out happened to be this morning and she just about lost her ass trying to find a station that had gas this morning |
| 02:56.18 | drmessano | Shes lucky she didnt run out completely |
| 02:56.31 | jblack | You're in florida? |
| 02:56.34 | drmessano | Ga |
| 02:56.41 | jblack | Gas problems up there too? |
| 02:56.59 | drmessano | $5 a gallon, 1 in 5 stations actually having gas.. yeah |
| 02:57.08 | teknoprep | wtf |
| 02:57.11 | teknoprep | are you serious ? |
| 02:57.20 | teknoprep | we have plenty of gas in PA |
| 02:57.21 | drmessano | For the 8th time, yes |
| 02:57.27 | jblack | Hmmm. Well, it's been july since I last filled the tank. A quick trip to turkey hill won't hurt me. |
| 02:57.36 | jaytee | I have a 12 year old Subaru Legacy that's beat to shit and smells like a homeless shelter but it gets really good gas mileage. The last standard shift front wheel drive model Subaru made |
| 02:57.38 | drmessano | I just got 5 gallons of gas for $25.01 (my hand slipped) |
| 02:57.49 | teknoprep | hey jaytee where you from ? |
| 02:57.50 | jblack | I knew south florida was running out. I didn't realize the problem was working it's way north. |
| 02:57.54 | Nasra | hi guys wanna hear your opinion about 'magicjack.... |
| 02:57.55 | teknoprep | turkey hill is a PA thing |
| 02:58.06 | drmessano | I heard FL was $6 a gallon |
| 02:58.11 | drmessano | Well, 2 days ago |
| 02:58.14 | jaytee | I'm from Mass originally. I'm exiled to Indiana at the moment |
| 02:58.15 | drmessano | Probably $7.50 now |
| 02:58.21 | teknoprep | jaytee, lol |
| 02:58.24 | jblack | When I get back, I'll tell you how much it here up in northeast pa. |
| 02:58.37 | teknoprep | lol thats becuase Republican's hate FL |
| 02:58.39 | jblack | not that it'll do you any good. |
| 02:58.41 | teknoprep | so they jack the price up there |
| 02:58.45 | mchou | Nasra: yes pls! |
| 02:58.58 | teknoprep | Republican's know they will losse FL this year |
| 02:59.08 | mchou | Nasra: tell us all about MJ |
| 02:59.10 | drmessano | The internet shows there's supposedly stations with gas under $4 here.. I drove past a few of them earlier and that's just effing BS lol |
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| 02:59.20 | jblack | gasbuddy? |
| 02:59.45 | Nasra | mchou tell me pls! |
| 02:59.46 | drmessano | Georgiagasprices.com, some affliate deal |
| 02:59.50 | x86 | $3.99 here |
| 02:59.53 | jblack | whoah. wtf. gas is over $4/gal in detroit? |
| 03:00.02 | teknoprep | lol |
| 03:00.06 | teknoprep | no one drives in detroit |
| 03:00.13 | x86 | midwest got major flooding, gas went crazy high |
| 03:00.17 | teknoprep | doesn't matter what they charge |
| 03:00.17 | jblack | $3.60 here in wilkes-barre. |
| 03:00.27 | drmessano | I'll tell you how inaccurate that site is.. hang on |
| 03:00.29 | teknoprep | wilkes-barre where ? |
| 03:00.54 | teknoprep | PA ? |
| 03:00.57 | Nasra | mchou just bought one for the sake of it.... |
| 03:01.03 | jblack | Why? want to leave a lit bag of shit on my porch? |
| 03:01.03 | mchou | Nasra: why you asking me? I dont have MJ |
| 03:01.13 | teknoprep | jblack, lol |
| 03:01.19 | teknoprep | jblack, i am from Reading, PA |
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| 03:01.26 | drmessano | HA, bingo.. They're showing 3 stations in Grovetown, GA with $4.49 gas prices.. It was $5.50 on Saturday there |
| 03:01.26 | teknoprep | well thatss where i live now |
| 03:01.28 | jaytee | there are gas stations that have gas for only 2.30 cents a gallon but they're behind chain link barbed wire fences at the refineries and only plant workers and executives from the gas companies, GM execs and high ranking public officials can buy the gas there. It's a dirty little secret, just like the Roswell UFO at Area 51. |
| 03:01.34 | jblack | mrdigital! |
| 03:01.55 | jameswf-home | callcentric doesnt allow cid spoofing... sucks |
| 03:02.36 | teknoprep | get voicepulse for changing your CID |
| 03:02.37 | teknoprep | they don't care |
| 03:02.39 | teknoprep | and its cheap |
| 03:02.46 | jaytee | I drove through Reading, PA once. One of the most boring places I've ever been. Everyone was just sitting on their porch with a book open. |
| 03:02.51 | jblack | Oh, cool. $3.50 in naticoke. I wonder if $.10 is worth a 15 minute drive |
| 03:03.20 | jaytee | naticoke? or nanticoke? |
| 03:03.24 | jblack | jaytee: Teliax, Callwithus, voipstream diamondcard all allow setting CID. Either voipstream or diamondcard only allow CID(num) |
| 03:03.26 | drmessano | Someone told me that the oil companies are so crooked, they would grind up little children to make gasoline if they thought it would lower production costs and increase profits. Sounds to me like someone has a plan to lower gas prices, I am all ears. |
| 03:03.33 | jblack | jaytee: nanticoke. |
| 03:04.11 | jblack | drmessano: And solve overpopulation. Sweet! |
| 03:04.14 | jameswf-home | i hear grinding up small children does lower cost |
| 03:04.17 | jblack | I never realized they cared so much about the earth. |
| 03:04.19 | jaytee | jblack, thanks for the CID info. If I ever decide to use an ITSP I'll remember that. |
| 03:05.28 | drmessano | I tried to find the kerosene conversion kits, mchou |
| 03:05.33 | drmessano | Sadly, no luck |
| 03:05.44 | drmessano | :( <-- SAD FACE |
| 03:05.54 | jblack | Can't go solar? |
| 03:06.04 | mchou | drmessano: the redneck doesn't know kerosene is used by avaiation :) |
| 03:06.11 | drmessano | maybe he was thinking about converting kerosene to beer, in which case, he needs to drink up |
| 03:06.59 | drmessano | I'm assuming he got mixed up with propane |
| 03:07.03 | drmessano | I can only hope |
| 03:07.11 | jblack | oh cool. djia futures are down 144 |
| 03:07.12 | mchou | LNG :) |
| 03:07.16 | stencil | vanilla extract, might make good fuel |
| 03:07.24 | jameswf-home | I run my car on hairspray |
| 03:07.36 | drmessano | God the smell of rotting flesh will never get out of his seats after the first time he fires up his converted automobile |
| 03:07.46 | jblack | another day like today, and that might put people into a real pant-crapping-selloff panic. |
| 03:08.44 | jameswf-home | fortunately the asterisk market benefits from all hell reaking loose.... people get cheap and look for ways to cut the cost of key syste,s |
| 03:09.01 | jblack | bah. People care about food more than they do DSL and computers. |
| 03:09.04 | drmessano | I had to drive 15 miles to get gas, some of it was backtracking to hit a few major intersections, but I'd say for most of that trip I found not one station with gas |
| 03:09.16 | jblack | I dont' know what's happening elsewhere, but they're double electricity rates out here. |
| 03:09.28 | mchou | drmessano: east coast looks fucked |
| 03:09.35 | drmessano | I found one with $5 gas, drove a few miles and there were 4 more together at $5 a pop |
| 03:09.45 | mchou | http://www.theoildrum.com/files/united_states_pipelines_map.jpg |
| 03:09.46 | drmessano | I finally just picked one |
| 03:09.47 | jblack | drmessano: You gonna go to walmart and buy 5x5Gal tanks and load up on what's left now? |
| 03:09.52 | jameswf-home | well wedont sell to people we sell to companies who must make money to provide such things.... outside of this room most folks dont run a pbx at home |
| 03:10.08 | mchou | that's a map of major oil pipelines in US |
| 03:10.20 | jblack | companies rarely expand if they can't get loans. If they can't expand, they don't need a phone system. |
| 03:10.26 | jameswf-home | gas here 3.28 |
| 03:10.26 | jblack | And all that circle of life crap. |
| 03:10.44 | mchou | you guys on east coast are SCREWED |
| 03:10.51 | teknoprep | lol |
| 03:10.54 | drmessano | Yep |
| 03:10.55 | teknoprep | i am not skrwed |
| 03:11.04 | teknoprep | i get almost 60miles to the gallon |
| 03:11.09 | teknoprep | toyota prius |
| 03:11.15 | jameswf-home | i get 21 MPG |
| 03:11.22 | jblack | Your mouth gets almost double the mileage. |
| 03:11.26 | mchou | teknoprep: that's nothing. http://www.aptera.com |
| 03:11.55 | mchou | 30 gals to go across all of US |
| 03:12.00 | jameswf-home | I was thinking about getting an F250 only loose a few MPG |
| 03:12.08 | jblack | seriously? |
| 03:12.10 | mchou | teknoprep: beat that, mofo! |
| 03:12.20 | teknoprep | how much is it ? |
| 03:12.32 | drmessano | HA |
| 03:12.34 | jblack | There's a new hummer here that they've been trying to sell for 4 years. I bet they'd sell it for 20k. |
| 03:12.39 | mchou | $27-$30K, depending on which one |
| 03:12.46 | teknoprep | i am buying it |
| 03:12.49 | drmessano | You guys suck.. My humvee gets 30 gallons to the mile. |
| 03:12.53 | teknoprep | the 2nd i can get my hands on it |
| 03:12.53 | jameswf-home | f250 has alot more room then the sports car and gas only goes up 10% |
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| 03:13.17 | jaytee | it might be more fuel efficient to get an F-250 monster truck because then you wouldn't have to stop in traffic, you could just drive over it. it's all the stop and go that wastes fuel. |
| 03:13.27 | jameswf-home | I cut my commute 25% by moving it would all work out |
| 03:13.48 | jblack | checks to see how the big three did today |
| 03:14.35 | jeev | why do i sometimes sweat profusely after i drink water in the heat |
| 03:14.38 | jblack | ouch. F only went down about 3.5%, but GM shaved 12%, down to 11.44 |
| 03:15.00 | jameswf-home | you missed 1 |
| 03:15.07 | jblack | That would be a good deal if they weren't gonna go bankrupt. |
| 03:15.23 | jblack | I'll look it up. |
| 03:15.34 | jameswf-home | ~stock AMC |
| 03:15.47 | jameswf-home | wa worth a shot |
| 03:16.48 | jblack | amc is american mortgage acceptance. I can't find Chrysler's ticker |
| 03:16.53 | mchou | forget American car companies. They now want a bailout from US govt to build fuel efficient cars |
| 03:17.04 | mchou | fuck them |
| 03:17.15 | mchou | and their SUV loving ways |
| 03:17.30 | jblack | Toyota down 4.4%, honda down 3%. etc etc |
| 03:17.58 | jblack | You can buy a share of lehman for a quarter, and walk away with change. |
| 03:18.09 | jameswf-home | Chrystler is not a public company go figure |
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| 03:19.15 | jblack | AIG from 12 bucks down to 4.76. Nice. |
| 03:20.59 | jameswf-home | McDonalds is down .34% |
| 03:21.16 | jblack | It's funny... Merrill lynch, who "died" today, survived the great depression. |
| 03:23.34 | jblack | Holy wow. AIG is trying to borrow $70 billion? |
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| 03:24.58 | jaytee | 70 billion? wow, we are so totally fucked without a prayer |
| 03:25.14 | [TK]D-Fender | I hear Prozac ended the Gread Depression..... |
| 03:25.17 | [TK]D-Fender | Great* |
| 03:25.39 | jaytee | I be my next 403K quarterly statement from Fidelity will be just chock full of good news |
| 03:25.45 | jaytee | bet |
| 03:26.03 | Nasra | hey guys alot of opportunies to make money for long run... |
| 03:27.32 | jaytee | Nasra, you're in Canada right? |
| 03:27.57 | Nasra | yes...but I watch market closely as well... |
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| 03:28.29 | jblack | The TED is already high. with AIG gone, TED will go higher still, since they'll drag others down due to CDOs. |
| 03:28.43 | x86 | ugh, Asterisk can't properly detect when an inbound POTS line has hung up |
| 03:28.48 | jeev | i'm so pissed at the market |
| 03:28.49 | StephenF | what does it mean if my zttest results are similar to -200.032623 |
| 03:28.52 | x86 | takes forever to hang up the channel |
| 03:28.56 | jameswf-home | Playbiy is down 1.27% whats wrong with the world |
| 03:29.01 | jeev | i'm gonna build my credit a lot more, personal credit, business.. then take all the $ and file |
| 03:29.01 | jeev | hahah |
| 03:29.14 | jeev | let the government bail the banks out |
| 03:29.15 | x86 | telco doesn't know what "disconnect supervision" is, so they can't enable it for me :( |
| 03:29.32 | jblack | jeev: Heh. You're not gonna get a loan, even with good credit, these days. |
| 03:29.41 | StephenF | I'm getting choppy audio on Playback() and Background() but MOH is fine... Thought timing might be the problem, and when running zttest i get values like -200.032623... Whats that about? |
| 03:29.42 | jeev | jblack, i have 200k in just lines. |
| 03:29.49 | jeev | i have a lot more in cc's... |
| 03:29.55 | jameswf-home | Screw AID bail out porn |
| 03:30.00 | jameswf-home | *AIG |
| 03:30.00 | jeev | point being, now that i'm using it and i dont care for the interest, i'll show that during the tough times, i was doing well |
| 03:30.09 | jblack | established ones, sure. But pull on them very hard, and they'll get closed off, and good luck getting a new one. |
| 03:30.11 | jeev | i'll build it a lot more... i'll eventually have at least 600k in lines.. |
| 03:30.22 | jeev | eh, i dunno |
| 03:30.28 | jeev | i dont think they'd close it with the money in my pocket right now |
| 03:31.16 | jblack | Oh yeah. I forgot about wamu. Wasn't someone going to buy them? |
| 03:31.31 | x86 | I bank with wamu |
| 03:31.38 | x86 | should I find a new bank? |
| 03:31.44 | jeev | wamu declined my loc because my mailing address was different from business address. ha ha haha |
| 03:31.47 | x86 | and if so, what other online banks are there? |
| 03:31.49 | jblack | You should have a second backup bank with 1 month of money. |
| 03:31.50 | jeev | the banker was dying of laughter |
| 03:31.56 | jameswf-home | x86: are your deposits over 10,000 |
| 03:32.07 | x86 | jameswf-home: nope |
| 03:32.26 | jameswf-home | bank closures only really matter to folks <10,000 |
| 03:32.32 | jameswf-home | *> |
| 03:32.37 | x86 | ah ok |
| 03:32.55 | jameswf-home | fdic limit everyone else is insured |
| 03:33.39 | jblack | The FDIC is still settling quick, but their funds are down to 50 billion as of late august. |
| 03:33.39 | jblack | Their charter allows them to delay, or refuse to pay, if their fund runs low, or out. |
| 03:33.58 | jameswf-home | Buy gold and put it under your matress |
| 03:34.12 | jameswf-home | send me your address |
| 03:34.16 | jeev | buy uranium and plutonium and put it under your bed, it's worth a lot more! |
| 03:34.16 | jameswf-home | :) |
| 03:34.18 | x86 | yeah the economy is going to go belly-up |
| 03:34.21 | jeev | well, put it under jaytee's bed! |
| 03:34.21 | x86 | I can see it happening |
| 03:34.29 | x86 | shit's really just begun, I think |
| 03:34.40 | x86 | the greater depression is amoung us |
| 03:34.41 | jblack | Yeah, and we've got at least two more years of this. |
| 03:34.42 | jameswf-home | mommy why is the strange man glowing |
| 03:34.55 | jeev | it could be cause he's a rollerblader! |
| 03:35.18 | jblack | back in march of 05, I was conservative when I said that the dow would hit 8k |
| 03:35.20 | jaytee | the administration and the Fed have been trying to stop the hemorrhaging till at least after the election. |
| 03:35.25 | drmessano | I wanted a plutonium yo-yo for christmas |
| 03:35.50 | jblack | Yeah. They were trying to push this stuff back, and failed, which is deeply troubling. |
| 03:35.51 | drmessano | My wife said "I just got used to your nuts glowing.. lets go slow" |
| 03:36.00 | jeev | back when everyone was believing the oil prices and saying the mid east is profitting big time |
| 03:36.04 | jeev | i was saying it's pure speculation |
| 03:36.06 | jeev | nobody would believe me |
| 03:36.11 | x86 | jaytee: they setup a trainwreck for oboma so they could say "look what this democrat did!" |
| 03:36.18 | jameswf-home | so if it fails with obama do we get to blame him? |
| 03:36.28 | jeev | you can't blame obama for shit if he wins |
| 03:36.35 | jeev | even if the deficit doubles |
| 03:36.37 | jblack | Don't worry. Those rates will return around 2012, 2014, or so. |
| 03:36.46 | x86 | jeev: funny thing is that 80-85% of the oil in the US comes from _CANADA_ |
| 03:36.49 | jblack | closer to 2014, actually. |
| 03:36.56 | jameswf-home | is running in 2016 |
| 03:36.57 | jaytee | sure you can, if you're republican and you know that at least 70% of Americans are stupid enough to believe it. |
| 03:36.57 | jeev | x86, american's are douchewads |
| 03:37.02 | jeev | can't run cause he wasn't born here |
| 03:37.16 | jblack | as tk says, RP08!!! |
| 03:37.27 | drmessano | 85% of our old comes from canada? |
| 03:37.28 | jameswf-home | ~ronpaul |
| 03:37.37 | jameswf-home | damn |
| 03:37.38 | jblack | wtf rly? |
| 03:37.41 | jameswf-home | ~obama |
| 03:37.42 | jbot | obama is probably http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5oBe401zE4 |
| 03:37.42 | drmessano | was confused by the pipelines pointing south |
| 03:37.56 | jaytee | I'm still voting the Shatner/Hasselhoff ticket |
| 03:38.09 | jeev | lol |
| 03:38.11 | jblack | I'm voting for Jon Stewart. |
| 03:38.15 | drmessano | Starsky/Hutch FTw |
| 03:38.24 | jeev | i'm voting bin laden, he'd at least win the war for us |
| 03:38.31 | jblack | He, at least, could keep us entertained through armageddon. |
| 03:39.01 | jblack | Jon Stewart doesn't have one of those flappy heads, does he? |
| 03:39.20 | jameswf-home | looks like SNL has a lock if mccain wins |
| 03:39.34 | drmessano | I would LOVE to see John McCain run for president.. god that guy is a fumbling old senile screwb... oh, shit. |
| 03:39.47 | jblack | You saw the Palin/Clinton skit? |
| 03:40.08 | drmessano | No, heard that Tina Fey ROCKED as Palin |
| 03:40.10 | x86 | http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/company_level_imports/current/import.html |
| 03:40.22 | x86 | top exporter of oil to the US: Canada |
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| 03:40.27 | jblack | speaking of mccain/palin... why aren't the republicans thinking "Oh shit. The guy is gonna die, and she's gonna be in charge" |
| 03:40.47 | jblack | Do the republicans want dumbasses in office? |
| 03:41.11 | jaytee | because they'll just appoint Cheney back in as VP and things will be right back to "normal" |
| 03:41.12 | jeev | jblack... |
| 03:41.14 | drmessano | 80 to 85%? |
| 03:41.18 | drmessano | Can you read a chart? |
| 03:41.19 | jeev | what are you trying to say? they've had dumb asses for that long |
| 03:41.36 | jaytee | "pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!! he has nothing to do with the all powerful Oz!!" |
| 03:41.37 | x86 | drmessano: read the Total Imports of Petroleum |
| 03:41.38 | jameswf-home | i cnt wait till obama drops biden and his campaign goes down the crapper |
| 03:41.45 | jeev | wtf |
| 03:41.47 | jeev | what's that mean |
| 03:41.51 | jblack | Quayle, Bush junior, Palin, McCain... morongs, each one of 'em. |
| 03:42.09 | drmessano | And? |
| 03:42.12 | [TK]D-Fender | jblack>speaking of mccain/palin... why aren't the republicans thinking "Oh shit. The guy is gonna die, and she's gonna be in charge" <- thats why there have been no serious attempts on Bush's life |
| 03:42.28 | [TK]D-Fender | DARTH CHENEY |
| 03:42.43 | jblack | That may be. He's more evil than the pope. |
| 03:43.00 | jameswf-home | I say drill the hell out of Alaska and give it back to russia after it is tapped |
| 03:43.09 | x86 | http://www.rense.com/general37/petrol.htm |
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| 03:43.20 | drmessano | If Saudia Arabia and Venezuela are around 3,000m and Canada is 2,400, how is Canada 80%? |
| 03:43.30 | drmessano | err -m |
| 03:43.34 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender, the reason there have been no serious attempts on Bush's life is that assassins never target assholes in office. Only leaders that actually want to make people's lives better. |
| 03:43.39 | drmessano | These are BAD fractions |
| 03:43.40 | jblack | He did new math in school. |
| 03:43.56 | drmessano | Must have |
| 03:44.32 | Nasra | if Obama looses it ....I am dumping my PBX... |
| 03:44.54 | drmessano | Now I want to vote for McCain |
| 03:45.03 | jeev | if obama loses, i'm starting a resistance.. |
| 03:45.08 | jeev | biggest movement ever |
| 03:45.29 | jblack | You just made the list. |
| 03:45.50 | x86 | http://www.financialsense.com/editorials/casey/2008/0710.html |
| 03:45.57 | drmessano | If Obama loses it, i'm not worried about having to make good on a pledge to give up somehting.. they'll do it for me |
| 03:46.04 | drmessano | x86: Still not 80% |
| 03:46.05 | x86 | drmessano: I read that somewhere but it looks around 25% |
| 03:46.19 | Nasra | I can't wait to see the world when Obama wins...lol....this gonna be interesting oh my god... |
| 03:46.24 | x86 | http://www.financialsense.com/editorials/casey/2008/images/0710_clip_image005.png |
| 03:46.36 | jblack | x86: I know we get a lot of natural gas from canada. perhaps you meant that. |
| 03:46.37 | drmessano | Now that you found a pie chart to help? |
| 03:46.42 | jameswf-home | Canada = 21% |
| 03:46.48 | jaytee | mmmmm, pie |
| 03:46.55 | x86 | jameswf-home: 25% |
| 03:47.03 | x86 | look at graph |
| 03:47.13 | drmessano | Did you know Uganda is the leading importer of SIP based telephony from the US? |
| 03:47.15 | jameswf-home | I put it all in a spread sheet |
| 03:47.24 | jameswf-home | SA 13% |
| 03:47.29 | drmessano | jameswf-home: What took you so long? lol |
| 03:47.36 | drmessano | I was gonna do that.. |
| 03:47.47 | jaytee | there is an upside to a bad economy! better stuff and better deals at yard sales, discounted cover charges at strip clubs. |
| 03:47.49 | jblack | didnt' iraq used to be about 10% ? |
| 03:47.52 | drmessano | But yeah, 21% sounds more reasonable than 800585% |
| 03:48.00 | jeev | i'd failed in life, miserably. i should've been able to take advantage of half the country. (the dumb ass republicant's) |
| 03:48.08 | [TK]D-Fender | Did you know that 43.7% of all statistics are made up on the spot? |
| 03:48.18 | jeev | jaytee, strip clubs have discounts? |
| 03:48.20 | jeev | how about lap dances |
| 03:48.29 | jeev | i haven't been to one in over a year, i hate that shit, they're devious li;ttle whores |
| 03:48.32 | drmessano | jblack: yes, we get less oil from Iraq now than we did before the war |
| 03:48.33 | jblack | [TK]D-Fender: Only the 42% that aren't right. |
| 03:48.48 | jaytee | I really pissed off a stripper during a lap dance when I started yawning. |
| 03:48.52 | jblack | Go gwb, go. |
| 03:48.53 | jeev | lol |
| 03:49.06 | jeev | once a stripp said it's 10 bux for 2 days |
| 03:49.08 | jeev | dances |
| 03:49.17 | jeev | i fuckin got 6 dances |
| 03:49.19 | jeev | it was 120 bux |
| 03:49.21 | jeev | stupid bitch lied to me |
| 03:49.27 | jblack | jaytee: Go watch "Zombie Strippers". That'll perk you up |
| 03:49.39 | jaytee | "Brainnnnzzzzz" |
| 03:50.23 | drmessano | The last time I went to a strip club, I got kicked out for trying to bounce a quarter off a strippers ass, after someone bragged "She's hot, I bet you could bounce a quarter off that ass". I can see how that not breaking open the roll first was my downfall here. |
| 03:51.03 | x86 | lol |
| 03:51.03 | jblack | In thailand, the strippes shoot quarters out of their... well... be creative. |
| 03:51.17 | jblack | it's actually true. I saw it. |
| 03:51.17 | jeev | lol |
| 03:51.21 | jaytee | or bring $2 bills, at first they think it's a twenty but even when they find out it's not they don't get upset because "he's different than the other guys" |
| 03:51.23 | jeev | do they have cocks ? |
| 03:51.33 | drmessano | jaytee: LOL!!!! |
| 03:51.34 | jblack | some of them, yeah. |
| 03:51.37 | jeev | lol |
| 03:51.43 | jeev | nasty shit |
| 03:51.46 | drmessano | That's so awesome |
| 03:52.07 | jblack | that was back in the 90s, though. |
| 03:52.10 | jaytee | in Thailand you can watch a woman smoke a cigarette for 5 bucks and she ain't using her mouth. |
| 03:52.10 | Nasra | do you know I sell bikinies to nice ladies? they undress right in front of me....(damn love my job)..... |
| 03:52.11 | jblack | early 90s, at that. |
| 03:52.13 | jameswf-home | wtf is that awesome |
| 03:52.20 | jeev | nasra, pictures of it isnt true |
| 03:52.25 | jeev | or it isn't true |
| 03:52.51 | drmessano | jeev: Hang on, WITH or WITHOUT his "Bikini Club International Black Card"? |
| 03:52.51 | jaytee | you know if you find one that can blow smoke rings you've found a winner and should take her back to the hotel for the night. |
| 03:52.53 | jeev | nasra, in the fat women section ? |
| 03:52.58 | jeev | lol |
| 03:53.07 | jblack | A good sex show in Thailand used to render men into deeply fearful beings. |
| 03:53.16 | jblack | jaytee: Some of them could. |
| 03:53.22 | *** part/#asterisk Obix (n=ben@216.166.138.25) |
| 03:53.39 | jaytee | jblack, I know! :-) |
| 03:54.34 | jblack | marty shoes.. why does that sound familiar? did they make hushpuppies? |
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| 03:55.06 | jaytee | most people in here are probably too young to remember Chesty Morgan. She was a burlesque girl who had such huge ta-ta's she had two midgets wearing fez's carrying each one when she came on stage. |
| 03:55.26 | StephenF | Any ideas why zttest results would be -200%? |
| 03:55.39 | jblack | -200 ? Seriously? |
| 03:56.01 | jblack | You've been letting republicans budget your timing, haven't you |
| 03:56.07 | StephenF | yes, Playback and Background are both choppy. But MOH is fine, so researching that lead me timing. |
| 03:56.14 | jeev | lol |
| 03:56.22 | StephenF | I ran zttest and I get best 0 worst -200.034 |
| 03:56.30 | drmessano | jaytee: We had a stripper here called "The Boiler Maker", she used to have a midget slide her giant boil out on stage behind her.. It was kinda gross... but then again... |
| 03:56.44 | jblack | vomits |
| 03:57.05 | jaytee | http://www.laughingninja.com/pictures/old-school-wireless-notebook hahahaha |
| 03:57.23 | drmessano | ROFL |
| 03:57.55 | jeev | hahahah |
| 03:58.33 | jblack | The FED fed another 70 bill into the banking system. |
| 03:58.51 | jblack | Wasn't AIG asking for 70 bill? |
| 03:59.36 | Nasra | more bad news to come within next few days..... |
| 03:59.41 | jaytee | time for bed. nite everyone |
| 03:59.51 | jblack | Nope. 75. |
| 03:59.54 | drmessano | Night |
| 04:00.03 | Nasra | jaytee take it easy...good nite ! |
| 04:00.08 | drmessano | What bad news, Nasra? |
| 04:00.21 | jblack | FED told them to screw off, so they're asking goldman sachs and jpmorgan, who I thought had problems of their own. |
| 04:00.25 | Nasra | about banks.. |
| 04:02.48 | jefftucson | My system uptime suddenly says 6213 weeks, 6 days, 5 hours, 49 minutes...I just rebooted this server 2 days ago..? |
| 04:03.04 | jefftucson | What that about? |
| 04:03.17 | jblack | StephenF: jefftucson found your missing timing. |
| 04:03.37 | StephenF | nice :) |
| 04:05.01 | jeev | lol |
| 04:05.04 | jeev | ntpdate time.nist.gov |
| 04:05.47 | jblack | superfriends is on boomerang. |
| 04:06.14 | jblack | Superman, Batman&Robin, Green Latern, Wonder Woman, Hawkman... :) |
| 04:07.18 | CrazyTux[m] | jblack, Wolverine, Gambit |
| 04:07.23 | CrazyTux[m] | xmen dun dun dun |
| 04:07.23 | jblack | "Xantoff is trillions of light years from earth! We'll have to leave immediately!" |
| 04:10.22 | jeev | lol |
| 04:10.25 | drmessano | My system uptime suddenly says 6213 weeks, 6 days, 5 hours, 49 minutes <-- He's gotta be running Netware |
| 04:11.30 | jblack | Hmmmm. |
| 04:11.44 | jblack | So, NIST is gonna help with the economy by fast forwarding through the bad parts? |
| 04:12.41 | jeev | chicken ass |
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| 04:13.50 | jeev | ROCK LOBSTER |
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| 06:24.52 | skyNomad | Can anyone tell me how to work out the duration of a call made by the Dial() command? |
| 06:30.47 | nix8n82 | skyNomad: what do you mean? did you check the cdr? |
| 06:31.34 | skyNomad | nix8n82: I am writing an AGI script, and I need to retrieve the call length of a call placed by the Dial() command. |
| 06:32.10 | skyNomad | nix8n82: I could look in the cdr database, but I was hoping for a native way of retrieving the data from within Asterisk. |
| 06:32.44 | nix8n82 | are you using the dial command within the agi script? |
| 06:33.36 | skyNomad | yes |
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| 06:37.02 | nix8n82 | something I should try to look into as well..just guessing is I would timestap a variable right before the dial command..catch the sigHUP and timestand a second variable and subtract the two |
| 06:37.50 | nix8n82 | even then I don 't know how accurate it would be but I think it would be at least to the second |
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| 06:39.41 | nix8n82 | no get the variable dialstatus and then time stamp |
| 06:39.58 | nix8n82 | or do both |
| 06:42.38 | skyNomad | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:43.25 | skyNomad | Does anyone know if Asterisk stores the duration of the dial command in a variable somewhere which is then used for insertion into the cdr database? |
| 06:50.02 | nix8n82 | google asterisk variables and look at the wiki |
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| 07:17.34 | edgimar | When trying to call an unavailable user, I get the message on the console "leave_voicemail: No entry in voicemail config file for '2000'", although I do have an entry in voicemail.conf -- any ideas? |
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| 07:27.40 | nix8n82 | did you reload asterisk? |
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| 07:57.23 | dr_gogeta86 | hi to all |
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| 08:26.53 | dominic1 | anybody out there? |
| 08:30.13 | Rico29 | iep |
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| 08:50.18 | dominic1 | do you know if it's possble to read out the 302 Moved Temporarily from the phones? something like a read sipheader function.... |
| 08:51.37 | mosty | dominic1, what are you trying to do? |
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| 08:54.54 | Cy | Hi, I've modified via asterisk-gui the a-law override and Opermode parameters... now when I try to leave it as it was by default (unchecked) it just doesn't save.... do you know where I can manually revert this changes? |
| 08:55.48 | dominic1 | I want to read if a phone sends me a 302 and then change then read the role of the user associated to the phone etc.... |
| 08:56.12 | dominic1 | my dialplan on a normal call differs from the dialplan on a forward... |
| 08:56.31 | mosty | dominic1, i'm not quite sure what you mean- can you rephrase that? |
| 08:57.09 | mosty | cy: we don't really deal with asterisk-gui in here, try #asterisk-gui |
| 08:57.31 | Cy | Thanks, but do you know where is that file within the /etc/asterisk dirs? |
| 08:58.10 | mosty | opermode is a zaptel module setting, the location of which will vary from one dist to another |
| 08:59.49 | Cy | Thanks mosty |
| 09:00.09 | dominic1 | Okay, if I get a sip header 302 Moved to DESTINATION. I want to read out my database which forwards are allowed for this user. The only thing I need is to read out the sip header sent by the phone |
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| 09:02.24 | viraptor | can I somehow completely disable checking inaudio dtmf? I want to get rfc2833 and ignore everything else (globally or for an extension - it doesn't matter) |
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| 09:07.36 | dominic1 | damned my client closed.... |
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| 09:09.41 | mosty | dominic1, in asterisk 1.4 and above, i believe that there is a channel variable you can set to specify a context that redirected calls should start in |
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| 09:10.38 | dominic1 | oh, thank you, I will have a look on that... |
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| 09:12.43 | mosty | dominic1, i believe it's FORWARD_CONTEXT |
| 09:12.43 | tzafrir_laptop | Cy, opermode for what exactly? |
| 09:13.00 | Cy | I was just playing... so I messed it |
| 09:13.07 | tzafrir_laptop | I don't think the asterisk gui writes to /etc/modprobe |
| 09:13.16 | Cy | It did tzafrir_laptop |
| 09:13.22 | tzafrir_laptop | huh? |
| 09:13.25 | Cy | I checked /etc/modprobe.conf |
| 09:13.27 | Cy | and it did |
| 09:13.29 | Cy | belive me |
| 09:13.41 | tzafrir_laptop | good thing I don't run asterisk as root |
| 09:14.22 | tzafrir_laptop | not in the version I have |
| 09:14.42 | tzafrir_laptop | (branch 2.0, fairly recent svn) |
| 09:15.08 | dominic1 | Set(FORWARD_CONTEXT=TEEEST) |
| 09:15.08 | dominic1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:16.03 | tzafrir_laptop | wonders just how simple it is to instruct the asterisk gui to run rm -rf / |
| 09:19.29 | yang | tzafrir_laptop: that would be a bad option |
| 09:19.59 | yang | evil code :) |
| 09:27.26 | tzafrir_laptop | Running Asteirsk as root is evil |
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| 09:28.57 | dominic1 | Any idea why my asterisk irgnores Set(FORWARD_CONTEXT=TEST) ? |
| 09:40.10 | mosty | dominic1, you might need to Set(__FORWARD_CONTEXT=TEST) |
| 09:44.22 | dominic1 | I will try it... |
| 09:44.50 | Cy | Ookay I've changed the user that runs asterisk, cause I didn't like very much the writing modprobe.conf thing |
| 09:45.19 | dominic1 | the inherited variable worked as you told me. Thank you very much! |
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| 09:49.31 | mchou | asterisk writes to /etc/modprobe.conf?? lol. That's be crazy |
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| 09:52.38 | dominic1 | Okay, next problem, any idea, how I can read out the DIALEDTIME? From the prevoius destination. If somebody called destination1 and destination1 forwards after 10 seconds, I want that the forward to destination2 gets canceled after 30 seconds of the complete call, so destination2 hast to ring 20 seconds. If destination1 rings 15 seconds destination2 should ring 15 seconds... and then get dropped to the reception... |
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| 10:33.12 | mav3rick | hello |
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| 10:45.56 | dramman | I've just installed asterisk onto a mythbuntu box, but when I run "sudo asterisk -vv" I get "res_musiconhold.so => (Musico On Hold Resource) \n Segmentation fault" |
| 10:48.20 | mchou | dramman: I work on myth and that's clearly a mythbuntu packaging issue |
| 10:48.41 | mchou | dont be asking for help with that stuff here |
| 10:49.16 | mchou | try #mythbuntu |
| 10:57.42 | tzafrir_laptop | dramman, look at /var/log/messages |
| 10:58.04 | tzafrir_laptop | sorry: /var/log/asterisk/messages |
| 10:59.31 | tzafrir_laptop | and anyway, mythbuntu do not package their own Asterisk |
| 10:59.35 | tzafrir_laptop | Ubuntu do |
| 11:00.08 | mchou | so? It's clearly distro related |
| 11:00.33 | mchou | it's hardly even asterisk or myth related |
| 11:00.45 | tzafrir_laptop | huh? |
| 11:01.34 | mchou | tzafrir_laptop: the analogy is going to #linus asking about a redhat issue |
| 11:01.41 | mchou | linux* |
| 11:05.03 | tzafrir_laptop | mchou, anything is dirsto-related |
| 11:05.27 | tzafrir_laptop | If you hope everyone installs Asterisk from source, you're shooting yourself in the foot |
| 11:05.59 | tzafrir_laptop | As #apache if they support Apache not installed from source. or #perl, or #python |
| 11:06.37 | mchou | I didn't say install from source. |
| 11:06.42 | dramman | I've compiled from the latest 1.6.0-rc6 sources |
| 11:06.48 | mchou | lol |
| 11:06.53 | mchou | there you go :) |
| 11:07.37 | mchou | tzafrir_laptop: it's either distro related or self inflicted :) |
| 11:07.48 | dramman | I don't actually have any zaptel hardware, and haven't touched any config files... |
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| 11:08.27 | dramman | I was hoping to get asterisk-gui up and running, but it's not responding on port 8088 |
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| 11:09.05 | mchou | sigh. |
| 11:09.36 | tzafrir_laptop | dramman, how did you install the asterisk-gui? |
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| 11:10.02 | dramman | 2.0 sources |
| 11:11.39 | tzafrir_laptop | this basically is a problem with either res_musiconhold.so or the module loaded right after it |
| 11:12.43 | tzafrir_laptop | So one way to go would be explicitly disabling modules (unload => module_name.so) in /etc/asterisk/modules.conf |
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| 11:15.40 | mav3rick | Hi guys. I'm running Asterisk 1.4.21.2 (default compilation options) which handles 5000 calls per day. I have a BIG memory leak : 500mb per day. The dialplan uses a lot of Gosub, return, and Meetme (with ztdummy). I've been having this issue since Asterisk 1.4.7. Any idea ? |
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| 11:16.27 | tzafrir_laptop | mav3rick, can you rebuild asterisk with memory allocations debugging? |
| 11:16.40 | mav3rick | Not all my "Gosub" have the corresponding "Return" (sometimes I just Hangup), can it come from there? |
| 11:17.12 | tzafrir_laptop | how much memory do you have? How long is asterisk running? |
| 11:17.12 | mav3rick | tzafrir_laptop: sure, MALLOC_DEBUG flag ? |
| 11:17.19 | tzafrir_laptop | yes |
| 11:18.11 | mav3rick | tzafrir_laptop: I have 3Gb of RAM (it's a DELL server running Debian etchnhaf 2.6.24). Asterisk is loosing memory from the startup and it gets worse as long as it's running. |
| 11:18.16 | dramman | okay, /etc/asterisk/manager.conf sets "port=5038", and |
| 11:18.32 | mchou | mav3rick: you run an itsp? |
| 11:18.35 | dramman | "/var/log/asterisk/messages" shows that 5038 is already in use |
| 11:18.53 | mav3rick | I don't know what an itsp is, so I suppose not. |
| 11:19.04 | mav3rick | I only have SIP channels using ulaw codec. |
| 11:19.07 | mchou | ~itsp |
| 11:19.07 | jbot | [~itsp] An ITSP is an Internet telephony Service Provider or "VoIP Telephone company". The allow you to either PLACE calls to the PSTN (called Termination), RECEIVE calls from the PSTN (called Origination), or both. Some offer fixed rates, others $/min. Enter ~itsplist-us (USA) or ~itsplist-ca (Canada) for a listing of popular ITSPs |
| 11:19.08 | tzafrir_laptop | dramman, this means asterisk is already running |
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| 11:19.26 | mav3rick | Nice feature :) |
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| 11:19.28 | tzafrir_laptop | dramman, this probably happened just after you change the varrundir |
| 11:19.56 | mav3rick | Well, I am the ITSP as I have another box for E1-to-SIP (running ASterisk perfectly without the leaking issue) |
| 11:20.14 | tzafrir_laptop | or for whatever reason once instance of asterisk failed to write to the varrun dir and annonce itself |
| 11:21.04 | tzafrir_laptop | dramman, 'ps aux | grep asterisk' # kill them all and start from scratch |
| 11:21.13 | mchou | haha |
| 11:21.22 | mchou | what is this? Windoze? |
| 11:21.33 | mchou | pkill |
| 11:22.07 | mav3rick | tzafrir_laptop: I've recompiled Asterisk with MALLOC_DEBUG. what's the next step ? |
| 11:22.20 | mav3rick | (neved used that flag before) |
| 11:22.44 | tzafrir_laptop | start running |
| 11:22.56 | tzafrir_laptop | now you can get a much more detailed report |
| 11:23.29 | tzafrir_laptop | on allocations: how much exatly was allocated (from each module, from each source line) |
| 11:23.30 | mav3rick | okay I see (/var/log/asterisk/mmlog) |
| 11:23.38 | tzafrir_laptop | record this periodically |
| 11:24.39 | mav3rick | mchou: what was your point with the itsp ? |
| 11:24.58 | mav3rick | tzafrir_laptop: thanks. I'll come back with results :) |
| 11:25.05 | mchou | mav3rick: no point. just wonder what your job was :) |
| 11:25.17 | mchou | wondering* |
| 11:25.48 | mav3rick | haha ok :) |
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| 11:38.56 | skyNomad | Where can I find a list of Error and Warning codes with their descriptions? |
| 11:38.59 | Andre101 | hey people.. Anyone know how I match a string of characters on a dialplan.. not numbers |
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| 11:40.47 | tompaw | hello |
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| 11:41.36 | tompaw | I was trying to strip the 2-digit prefix from the dialed number and I used the following trunk definition in users.conf: |
| 11:41.41 | tompaw | http://pastebin.com/m281e5ecc |
| 11:42.05 | tompaw | yet still, sip debug shows that the full number is being used - what might be wrong? |
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| 11:43.50 | mchou | skyNomad: if all else fails use the source |
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| 11:45.26 | ufoonline | Hello |
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| 11:51.07 | tzafrir_laptop | turns out dramman had the oh-so-typical problem of installation from source: |
| 11:51.22 | tzafrir_laptop | a left-over module from an older version |
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| 11:51.52 | tzafrir_laptop | this does not happen when you install from packages |
| 11:53.14 | ufoonline | Someone use the hud with asterisk? |
| 11:58.29 | tompaw | problem solved - second question: |
| 11:59.09 | tompaw | if asterisk is registered on a sip server as a client, with login and password, I can then make outgoing calls using that trunk and it works perfectly. |
| 11:59.40 | tompaw | but if somebody calls my asterisk's phone number on that server - is there a way to direct that call to appropriate extension on my asterisk? |
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| 12:07.01 | skyNomad | Is there a simple way of seeing if a user is still on connected on the call? In other words, the caller has not hung up yet? |
| 12:07.50 | tompaw | sip show channels? |
| 12:08.17 | mav3rick | or core show channels |
| 12:08.42 | skyNomad | I have tried to test the response code from Playback(blank_file), but it always seems to return result=0 for some reason. |
| 12:09.11 | skyNomad | I don't really want to use the show channels method, because I need an easy way of accessing the data programmatically. |
| 12:09.27 | skyNomad | I probably could do it using the 'show channels', but I'm looking for a simpler way of doing it. |
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| 12:22.06 | kovger | hi! anybody here experienced with sms sending? im using a beronet card with mobil sims. i can receive sms but cant send. here is the asterisk output: http://pastebin.ca/1204229 (9888000 is the smsc of my provider and sorry, english is not my native) |
| 12:22.52 | mav3rick | skyNomad: you want to know if the user is still connected... in the dialplan ? |
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| 12:23.09 | sehh | hey people |
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| 12:24.26 | Great_Anta_Baka | how do i set the caller id on my inbound sip trunk to be whatever the provider sets it to be? |
| 12:25.13 | Strom_C | that should just happen automatically |
| 12:25.15 | [TK]D-Fender | Great_Anta_Baka: it already is. |
| 12:28.33 | Great_Anta_Baka | mmm |
| 12:28.50 | Great_Anta_Baka | guess that means as usual i did something wrong |
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| 12:29.16 | ufoonline | someone use hud there?:x |
| 12:31.36 | heedly | is that the IRC thing? |
| 12:31.43 | heedly | I hear it's bad. |
| 12:32.32 | sehh | q: how can i debug DTMF tone detection? i've got an asterisk server and it some times detects DTMF without a problem (when i'm calling from a mobile phone) but it doesn't detect DTMF when calling from a landline or other asterisk server. Is there a debug command that can help me? |
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| 12:33.30 | lmadsen | sehh: in logger.conf enable 'dtmf' on the console |
| 12:33.46 | sehh | Great_Anta_Baka, in my experiece, some trunks modify the inbound caller id, for example they remove 00 digits from the start of the caller id. |
| 12:33.51 | [TK]D-Fender | sehh: Are all of these calls coming in on the same peer? |
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| 12:34.03 | sehh | lmadsen, nice, thank you! |
| 12:34.20 | Great_Anta_Baka | the thing is my callerid in the cdr records is set as "New User" |
| 12:34.22 | sehh | [TK]D-Fender, yes they are (ISDN lines) |
| 12:34.29 | lmadsen | sehh: the other way is to use wireshark to capture the rtp stream (for rfc2833, inband) and the sip signalling (info) |
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| 12:34.55 | [TK]D-Fender | lmadsen: He just said its ISDN... |
| 12:35.00 | sehh | lmadsen, understood, i'll try the "dtmf" in the logger and see how that goes |
| 12:35.06 | lmadsen | [TK]D-Fender: I was already typing that before he said that |
| 12:35.17 | Great_Anta_Baka | i did a more * |grep "New User" and that translates to a setting in users.conf where it says fullname = New User |
| 12:35.31 | [TK]D-Fender | lmaAnother likely excuse!!! muahaha *cough* |
| 12:35.34 | Great_Anta_Baka | how can that be my callerid o_0 |
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| 12:35.47 | [TK]D-Fender | *ouch* |
| 12:35.49 | lmadsen | indeed |
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| 12:36.18 | [TK]D-Fender | lmadsen: Gee and that was blatant mild humour. Who pissed in your Corn Flakes today? |
| 12:36.29 | lmadsen | [TK]D-Fender: pretty sure it was you |
| 12:37.12 | Great_Anta_Baka | lol |
| 12:37.23 | [TK]D-Fender | lmadsen: Wow, any tiny little thing regardless of clear intent. Nice to know where I stand. |
| 12:37.49 | lmadsen | [TK]D-Fender: have a sense of humour... I'm not as pissy as you might think. Do I need to prefix everything with a smiley? :) |
| 12:38.11 | lmadsen | taps [TK]D-Fender on the head and sends him along with his pink elephant |
| 12:40.11 | Great_Anta_Baka | hahaha |
| 12:42.41 | [TK]D-Fender | Great_Anta_Baka: I might just as soon kick you in "jest revenge" but that might be taken as a "terrorist power grab". OH NOES! |
| 12:42.51 | sehh | what do you think of Grandstream phones? are they considered good enough for production environments (quality wise as well as functionality)? |
| 12:42.58 | [TK]D-Fender | ~gs |
| 12:42.59 | jbot | GrandSuck phones & gateways are cheap junk which should be avoided with extreme prejudice. |
| 12:43.06 | [TK]D-Fender | ~grandstream |
| 12:43.07 | jbot | methinks grandstream is the Yugo of VoIP hardware. Run. Run away now. |
| 12:43.07 | Great_Anta_Baka | mmm my cdr records say anonymous for callerid :( |
| 12:43.14 | Great_Anta_Baka | hahhaa |
| 12:43.29 | sehh | hehe :) |
| 12:43.31 | [TK]D-Fender | Great_Anta_Baka: then that's what they are sending. * doesn't invent that name itself |
| 12:43.32 | Great_Anta_Baka | i use polycoms sehh |
| 12:43.47 | Great_Anta_Baka | indeed thats what i was thinking |
| 12:43.59 | sehh | i've been considering taking a close look at the polycoms |
| 12:44.06 | Great_Anta_Baka | these quintims are quite confusing |
| 12:44.14 | Great_Anta_Baka | quitum* |
| 12:44.25 | sehh | i think most VoIP phones are too expensive at the moment, hopefuly they'll go down in the future |
| 12:44.38 | Great_Anta_Baka | not any time soon |
| 12:44.44 | Great_Anta_Baka | but the cheap ones are really crap |
| 12:44.46 | sehh | hmm thats bad news |
| 12:44.56 | Great_Anta_Baka | i would stay away from those in production environments |
| 12:45.14 | Great_Anta_Baka | ~atcomm |
| 12:45.17 | Great_Anta_Baka | ~atcom |
| 12:45.18 | dramman | I've had to do |
| 12:45.20 | Great_Anta_Baka | meh |
| 12:45.36 | [TK]D-Fender | Atcom is just about as bad as GS |
| 12:45.38 | sehh | well i've got a few Grandstream GXP 1200 phones for testing at the office and they work ok so far, haven't had problems. But they do feel... cheap (cheap plastic, cheap buttons, etc) |
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| 12:46.07 | [TK]D-Fender | sehh: There's a reason their first line were mocked as "BarbieTones" |
| 12:46.21 | Great_Anta_Baka | polycoms are awesome man.. and the sound quality is probably the best you gonna get |
| 12:46.25 | sehh | really?? ahahahaha |
| 12:46.52 | sehh | Great_Anta_Baka, but too expensive... when people hear the cost they stay away from VoIP... |
| 12:47.03 | yang | sehh: you are the only one with GS without errors... |
| 12:47.19 | sehh | yang really? thats interesting... |
| 12:47.21 | [TK]D-Fender | sehh: Linksys is runner up in a close tie with Aastra |
| 12:47.31 | dramman | "noload => res_{agi,ael_share,phoneprov,speech,smdi,monitor,indications}.so" in modules.conf and now "sudo /etc/init.d/asterisk debug" throws a segmentation fault after printing "NOTICE[7852]: loader.c:869 load_modules: 189 modules will be loaded |
| 12:47.34 | [TK]D-Fender | sehh: Either would be an acceptable choice. |
| 12:47.41 | sehh | [TK]D-Fender, ah |
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| 12:48.09 | [TK]D-Fender | dramman: Hopefully your use of a "set" in there was a sample because it sure isn't legal as-written |
| 12:48.24 | yang | What about Snoms ? They claim to be good too |
| 12:48.33 | Great_Anta_Baka | sehh you speaking to the wrong people.. i live in south africa.. and that means massive markup in terms of voice products |
| 12:48.39 | dramman | yeah - that's just to keep it short in IRC |
| 12:48.40 | yang | We definitelly need to replace the Grandsteam |
| 12:48.40 | Great_Anta_Baka | pricing wise |
| 12:48.53 | sehh | Great_Anta_Baka, hmm indeed... |
| 12:49.23 | sehh | yang: i don't have a problem with the GS phones and i even run a beta firmware on them for testing |
| 12:49.51 | yang | sehh: for how long have you been using them, since which firmware? |
| 12:49.56 | Great_Anta_Baka | ah i always wished testing == production... alas users can do funny things |
| 12:49.59 | [TK]D-Fender | yang: Snom pulls in behind Linksys & Aastra. Too flakey & expensive. |
| 12:50.09 | yang | [TK]D-Fender: ok good to know |
| 12:50.36 | sehh | yang: for about a year now, at first we used 1.1.6.16 but now we use BETA 1.1.6.27 |
| 12:50.44 | yang | [TK]D-Fender: linksys/cisco there are from the same brand, how good are Cisco phones acting with asterisk ? |
| 12:50.58 | [TK]D-Fender | yang: Snom has a long history of shoddy firmware and its hard to find a market where there isn't a better alternative at a given price-point |
| 12:51.03 | sehh | yang: maybe a bit less than a year, i could be wrong |
| 12:51.04 | Great_Anta_Baka | i'd give it an oscar |
| 12:51.28 | [TK]D-Fender | yang: Cisco's SIP sucks <- Their phones were made for CCM. Everything else is "gravy" to them |
| 12:51.36 | yang | sehh: I used 1.5. versions and previous and there were constant problems, the phones still drop calls and freeze at random point |
| 12:51.54 | [TK]D-Fender | yang: And Linksys' phones are more like a Cisco view of a Sipura phone. |
| 12:52.15 | yang | sehh: you see that they applied over 100 bugfixed since 1.1.5 firmware at voip-info.org |
| 12:52.39 | sehh | yang, you mean 1.1.5.xx firmware? i've never used such old ones, the phones came brand new with 1.1.6.xx firmware to us |
| 12:52.47 | mchou | I dunno. I think linksys PAP2 is a great value :) |
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| 12:53.00 | JT | a pap2 isn't a phoen |
| 12:53.01 | JT | phone |
| 12:53.12 | [TK]D-Fender | mchou: I agree |
| 12:53.17 | mchou | JT: that's a minor point :) |
| 12:53.17 | sehh | yang, i guess thats why we aren't having problems |
| 12:53.18 | yang | sehh: the 10 EURO cheap phones we have are much more stable than the GS ones |
| 12:54.01 | yang | sehh: but yeah 1.1.6 is like the best firmware so far, still not perfect... |
| 12:54.15 | mchou | yang: what 10 euro phones? |
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| 12:54.29 | sehh | yang: now that i think about it, we did discover a bug: when the phones are set to produce DTMF in RFC2833 and INFO, they generate double digits, we reported the problem to their support team and they said it will be fixed in the next firmware |
| 12:54.29 | yang | mchou: G 300 from globaliptel |
| 12:55.17 | yang | sehh: I am looking forward for that, they issue a new firmware once every 6 months |
| 12:55.35 | dramman | Why does the web site advertise 1.4.22-rc5 and 1.6.0-rc6 simultaneously? |
| 12:55.44 | yang | [TK]D-Fender: any special model of linksys that you fancy? |
| 12:55.54 | mchou | panasonic has a voip phone. I wonder if that's any good |
| 12:56.19 | [TK]D-Fender | yang: they highest cost-effective model. 941 or higher strongly preferred |
| 12:56.36 | [TK]D-Fender | mchou: Uniden has a few, and they suck. HARD |
| 12:56.56 | mchou | [TK]D-Fender: yeah, i know about unidens |
| 12:57.36 | [TK]D-Fender | mchou: and I know the Strata phones are "VoIP", but do they have an more "open" ones running SIP? |
| 12:57.48 | mchou | too bad panasonic voip phone seems to be locked to a provider |
| 12:58.06 | [TK]D-Fender | Or was that Toshiba? I mix up those big-boys sometimes.. |
| 12:58.15 | mchou | [TK]D-Fender: not as far as I know |
| 12:58.40 | [TK]D-Fender | mchou: Either way, we've got 2-3 decent front-row choices so I'm not complaining. |
| 12:58.48 | mchou | yeah |
| 12:58.56 | [TK]D-Fender | Which reminds me I do have 2 Polycom IP 320's to set up here for the first time |
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| 13:07.42 | dandre | hello, |
| 13:07.46 | gego | tzafrir_laptop: Now I know why I didn't see response from AstManProxy: |
| 13:08.00 | gego | tzafrir_laptop: Impatience was the reason. Thanks for your patience |
| 13:08.27 | dandre | is there someone who knows the inner of activa tapi driver? |
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| 13:10.32 | gego | tzafrir_laptop: I sent - and instantly tried to recv. - obviously not a good idea ... |
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| 13:15.11 | UnixDawg | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:15.36 | stencil | good morning UnixDawg |
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| 13:16.25 | UnixDawg | just a thought here but I think that the sounds should be pulled out of asterissk menuselect. this way users can choose thier own sounds by downloading the sounds they want int he language they want |
| 13:16.30 | UnixDawg | morning |
| 13:17.33 | stencil | IRC is the coolest example of collective problem solving |
| 13:17.34 | [TK]D-Fender | UnixDawg: They can still do that, and IIRC * comes with GSM and WGET's the rest. |
| 13:18.01 | UnixDawg | yes but really the sounds hould not be in the core pkg |
| 13:18.29 | UnixDawg | sounds sould be thier own pkg |
| 13:18.37 | [TK]D-Fender | UnixDawg: that is somewhat debatable in the spirit of providing a "complete" usable base package |
| 13:18.47 | mav3rick | should I select the "DONTOPTIMIZE" flag with the "MALLOC_DEBUG" one ? |
| 13:18.51 | [TK]D-Fender | UnixDawg: They are all available separate already of course |
| 13:18.58 | mav3rick | (in order to debug memory leak in Asterisk) |
| 13:19.06 | UnixDawg | ok here is why |
| 13:19.39 | UnixDawg | alot of users building asterisk dot know to run menu select and end up with the us-ca-en prompts and dont want them |
| 13:20.17 | UnixDawg | the thought is this moving the asterisk sounds to thier own pkg like zaptel and libpri and asterisk-addons |
| 13:20.24 | [TK]D-Fender | UnixDawg: Souns more like the problem is people not suing MenuSelect whic, being a curses-based thing, is nto Raw-Cat Science. |
| 13:20.39 | [TK]D-Fender | UnixDawg: Some might call their need "following the instructions" |
| 13:21.06 | [TK]D-Fender | UnixDawg: And again, the sounds are all available as separate packages |
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| 13:21.27 | [TK]D-Fender | UnixDawg: Per language & codec. The fact menuSelect lets you pick them so easy is a blessing |
| 13:22.20 | UnixDawg | but it makes it harder to keep it in the bsd ports tree |
| 13:22.32 | UnixDawg | thast one of the isses |
| 13:22.57 | [TK]D-Fender | UnixDawg: Ok, still not a real problem :) |
| 13:23.05 | UnixDawg | and I dont lik having it force us-en sounds down a users throat |
| 13:23.31 | UnixDawg | I will break menu select and then make ports for the diff sounds |
| 13:23.34 | [TK]D-Fender | UnixDawg: and its not "force". You can choose them as you install and you by no means forced to install US-EN |
| 13:23.54 | UnixDawg | break as in patch to turn off sound files |
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| 13:24.32 | jaytee | sometimes it's better if some things aren't so user friendly. It weeds out the types like "I gots me a new box n I put linux on 'er. Now I's a systum ad-minister! How cum I cain't show what files r in this heah folder? I type dir and I get unrecognized command?" |
| 13:25.22 | [TK]D-Fender | When we're talking about a user who can't uncheck a box in a config options screen a monkey could use, they get little mercy from me. |
| 13:25.50 | jaytee | and that's the way it should be.....no mercy, no retreat and no surrender1 |
| 13:25.58 | jaytee | -1 +! |
| 13:26.18 | [TK]D-Fender | Remember the Alamo!!!!!!!! |
| 13:26.29 | jaytee | "Um, where's the basement?" |
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| 13:34.24 | badcfe | how do i take a pause in the audio in the dialplan |
| 13:34.39 | badcfe | like Playback(/dev/null) but just for a few secs |
| 13:34.44 | [TK]D-Fender | badcfe: What audio? |
| 13:34.53 | badcfe | /dev/random |
| 13:35.01 | [TK]D-Fender | badcfe: there is a "silence" filder under sounds... |
| 13:35.03 | badcfe | [TK]D-Fender: silence |
| 13:35.23 | [TK]D-Fender | badcfe: Thats not "pausing" audio, thats playing silence. |
| 13:35.48 | badcfe | [TK]D-Fender: thanks. yes thats what i want. just wandered if theres a less cpu-wasting way of doin it |
| 13:36.16 | [TK]D-Fender | badcfe: You could just "Wait(5)" you know... |
| 13:36.37 | [TK]D-Fender | thats even better if you don't need to actually force sound & an answer |
| 13:36.50 | badcfe | [TK]D-Fender: a Wait is nice yeah |
| 13:38.59 | yang | I wonder about the Dialplan which would allow me to dial to an extension and get a further option for dialing out a number (forwarding service) |
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| 13:40.18 | [TK]D-Fender | yang: Any IVR, Read, etc |
| 13:40.25 | [TK]D-Fender | yang: DISA |
| 13:40.39 | yang | DISA thats it |
| 13:40.40 | [TK]D-Fender | yang: Only about a dozen ways to get input from a user you know... |
| 13:40.45 | [TK]D-Fender | yang: tis all the same. |
| 13:43.03 | jaytee | DISA, if not implemented correctly could create serious headaches of the type: "Hey! How come we're getting billed 70,000 dollars for long distance calls to Ecuador?" |
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| 13:44.11 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: Any method could do that. No need to pour the rap on DISA alone :) |
| 13:44.47 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender, true enough but just saying it's one of those methods. |
| 13:45.02 | dandre | I am trying to trac the state of a call established with originate manager command but I don't understand the manager events. Is there some docs on this? |
| 13:45.46 | jaytee | dandre, try the wiki at voip-info.org there's some stuff there and also in the docs folder for * |
| 13:45.53 | jaytee | and the book covers it a bit too |
| 13:47.40 | dandre | the problem is that I have 4 uniqueID and I don't see how to connect then together |
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| 13:49.23 | [TK]D-Fender | dandre: Then you should probably set a traceable VALUE in the channels you originate |
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| 13:50.11 | dandre | Interesting but I don't know how to do it |
| 13:50.27 | [TK]D-Fender | dandre: How about setting a CHANNEL VARIABLE.... |
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| 13:51.42 | dandre | I know how to put a channel ariable in the originate command but it doesn't seem to appear in events related to it |
| 13:51.58 | [TK]D-Fender | dandre: Sure it does. |
| 13:52.15 | [TK]D-Fender | dandre: You just need to actually look for the variable. |
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| 13:55.07 | dandre | In the event packets? |
| 13:55.16 | dandre | I don't see |
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| 13:58.29 | dandre | I send this to the manager:http://pastebin.com/d7d413377 |
| 13:58.30 | [TK]D-Fender | dandre: Go seriously look for some means via AMI to look at a channel's variables. This is not that hard. |
| 13:59.31 | dandre | but in the events I don't get originating |
| 13:59.35 | dandre | ok |
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| 14:02.39 | kotique | hey gais. I need to setup custom voice prompts for voicemail. |
| 14:02.57 | kotique | that is, need a custom unavail & busy messages only for 2 users |
| 14:02.58 | mav3rick | tzafrir_laptop: I rebuilt Asterisk with memory allocation debugging, but I only have "(numbers) - new session" in /var/log/asterisk/mmlog |
| 14:03.05 | mav3rick | even after hundred calls |
| 14:03.34 | mav3rick | did I miss something ? |
| 14:03.58 | dandre | you mean I must issue a getvar command for each event I receive? |
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| 14:05.18 | [TK]D-Fender | dandre: What kind of tracking are you looking to do? |
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| 14:05.48 | [TK]D-Fender | kotique: then have those 2 users record them in VoiceMailMain. |
| 14:06.13 | kotique | [TK]D-Fender, ok, but where are they placed ? I already have a WAV file ready.. |
| 14:06.31 | [TK]D-Fender | kotique: in the base folder of their VM box |
| 14:06.45 | dandre | I want to know the state of both call legs in an originate (ringing, offhook, onhook, busy...) |
| 14:06.53 | [TK]D-Fender | kotique: go look and see what * creates and just replace them if you have already made them outside of * |
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| 14:07.55 | kotique | okay, thanks |
| 14:07.59 | [TK]D-Fender | dandre: here's another approach : Have your dialplan send out a custom AMI message at the start to map the uniqueID to that var |
| 14:09.21 | dandre | ok I didn't though about that |
| 14:10.16 | [TK]D-Fender | dandre: and you're a coder? there are a tone of easily conceivable ways to do this. It frightens me to think that you can't come up with this. |
| 14:11.12 | dandre | I didn't know about th possibility to sned custom manager events to the manager |
| 14:11.21 | [TK]D-Fender | dandre: Channel-dump>map, dialplan generated event>map, etc... |
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| 14:11.42 | [TK]D-Fender | dandre: Guess you never read the list of dialplan applications |
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| 14:15.58 | mav3rick | Hello again guys. I'm running Asterisk 1.4.21.2 (default compilation options) which handles 5000 calls per day. I have a BIG memory leak : 500mb per day. The dialplan uses a lot of Gosub, return, and Meetme (with ztdummy). I've been having this issue since Asterisk 1.4.7. Any idea ? I tried MALLOC_DEBUG but I have only one line in mmlog even after hundred calls. |
| 14:16.08 | badcfe | [TK]D-Fender: that list has become huge. wow. |
| 14:16.24 | [TK]D-Fender | badcfe: Not overnight. |
| 14:16.59 | badcfe | [TK]D-Fender: heh. no -- i confess to not having dumped that whole list for a while |
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| 14:18.02 | dandre | I am readin thelist of dialplan applications but don't find what you've said [TK]D-Fender |
| 14:18.05 | [TK]D-Fender | badcfe: It only really changes between major versions 1.0 / 1.2 / 1.4. Version 1.6.X.Y will have more incremental changes each "X" at a much higher frequency |
| 14:19.03 | [TK]D-Fender | dandre: Keep looking, I'm already staring at its instructions. |
| 14:19.14 | [TK]D-Fender | dandre: Scarier still is that I've never even USED IT |
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| 14:22.42 | iratik | voip phone recommendations anyone? considering getting a budgetone ... but weary of cheapness |
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| 14:22.55 | dandre | I don't find: |
| 14:22.56 | [TK]D-Fender | iratik: You've heard this answer a million times already |
| 14:22.56 | dandre | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+-+documentation+of+application+commands#Alphabeticallist |
| 14:23.09 | [TK]D-Fender | dandre: "core show applications" <- |
| 14:23.31 | [TK]D-Fender | WIKI's can be OLD and OUT-DATED. |
| 14:23.43 | [TK]D-Fender | dandre: You aren't really trying here... |
| 14:24.51 | jaytee | iratik, if Grandstream made water-wings for children instead of voip phones, the water-wings would be made of solid lead. |
| 14:25.09 | iratik | jaytee: What do you recommend? |
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| 14:25.29 | jaytee | Polycom ---- accept no substitutes. |
| 14:26.54 | gr0mit | iratik, Ploycom and Snom seem to be the ones to look for |
| 14:27.00 | gr0mit | prefers snoms. |
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| 14:27.08 | iratik | snom is a little cheaper |
| 14:27.12 | gr0mit | never used a polycom though |
| 14:27.15 | [TK]D-Fender | iratik: Hardly |
| 14:27.24 | [TK]D-Fender | iratik: www.telephonydepot.com |
| 14:27.45 | dramman | What format is expected for outbound CID? |
| 14:27.55 | jaytee | I can get Polycom 330's for 112 bucks through CDW, cheaper if I buy in bulk. |
| 14:28.20 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: I just got my last 2 x 320's @$83 |
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| 14:28.41 | [TK]D-Fender | Snom = nearly pointless in North America |
| 14:29.25 | jaytee | and compared to a digital phone for a Nortel Meridian like a Nortel 3904 that I would pay $400+ through my VAR I can get a Polycom 650 for 30% less. |
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| 14:30.10 | iratik | yeah... Fender's telephony depot link has polycoms for 83 too |
| 14:30.23 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender, that's about what CDW would charge but the 320's are PoE only so we opted for the 330's to have flexibility. |
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| 14:30.56 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: No, they're not... |
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| 14:31.22 | jaytee | no? Oh, wait it's the lan port that's missing. That's it! |
| 14:31.58 | jaytee | I keep getting that confused with some other phone that was cheaper but only had PoE. Yeah, we chose the 330's for the lan port feature. |
| 14:32.17 | jaytee | gets more coffee to clear the cobwebs. |
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| 14:33.20 | dandre | I haven't found in core show applications |
| 14:34.16 | [TK]D-Fender | dandre: Read each and every one carefully. |
| 14:34.29 | dandre | done |
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| 14:35.05 | [TK]D-Fender | dandre: look again. And again. If you're able to miss this after 3-4 passes then you might want to consider an alternative career.... |
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| 14:35.23 | dandre | the only thing I have seen dumpchan |
| 14:35.26 | mav3rick | [TK]D-Fender, do you have an idea on my memory issue? |
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| 14:35.50 | [TK]D-Fender | dandre: 1 clue, its alphabetically AFTER that command. |
| 14:35.56 | iratik | 320s aren't PoE only! |
| 14:36.06 | iratik | the AC adapters are just sold seperately |
| 14:36.19 | [TK]D-Fender | iratik: Thanks, I've already stated that, and jaytee acknolwedged it. |
| 14:36.44 | iratik | k... sorry.. i was just worried about that and had just looked into that |
| 14:36.45 | jaytee | iratik, yeah sorry. it's the LAN port for a computer that's missing. I didn't have enough coffee this morning. |
| 14:37.06 | iratik | why would you need that lan port for the computer?... so you don't have to run two cables? |
| 14:37.18 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: Actually its the "PC" port its missing. |
| 14:37.42 | [TK]D-Fender | iratik: passthrough is good where you don't have the infrastructure. |
| 14:37.44 | jaytee | iratik, yes but if you have the option of two cables you're better off running a 320 and keeping VOIP on it's own network |
| 14:38.08 | [TK]D-Fender | iratik: Then again I advocate buying IP 320's and INVESTING in infrastructure. Lets you leave your data LAN gigabit, etc... |
| 14:38.20 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: As I've just stated. |
| 14:38.36 | iratik | hmm... two separate networks? |
| 14:38.38 | [TK]D-Fender | mav3rick: A question perhaps better made in #asterisk-dev |
| 14:38.40 | iratik | i need a voip networking class bad |
| 14:38.42 | [TK]D-Fender | iratik: yes |
| 14:39.01 | [TK]D-Fender | iratik: Not even a "VoIP" intensive thought. |
| 14:39.13 | jaytee | oh, fine! I'm just gonna shut up and drink my coffee instead of inadvertently repeating what you say :-) |
| 14:39.17 | iratik | my asterisk server is on a dedicated T1 ... the softphones point to that asterisk server... so they are on a separate connection than the rest of the internet access |
| 14:39.46 | UnixDawg | ls |
| 14:39.50 | UnixDawg | lol |
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| 14:41.05 | mav3rick | okay, thanks [TK]D-Fender |
| 14:42.08 | gcbirzan | Hm. Can I detect busy tones on my FXO card with the zapata driver? The config file says it's only for FXS... And, well, I can't detect when the other side hangs up so I keep getting a busy signal for ages... |
| 14:42.15 | jaytee | I think today is one of those mornings I should have opted for the coffee with a double-shot of expresso. |
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| 14:46.04 | Canacourse | using * a few years now but new to zaptel. Trying to setup FXS card (X110P) card can be seen by * but no dialtone on handsets. Any ideas? |
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| 14:50.30 | badcfe | hmmm macros are aparently excepted from the rule that a channel keeps the dialplan as it was when that channel was created. |
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| 14:50.49 | badcfe | new versions of a macro will be active for existing channels |
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| 14:51.23 | [TK]D-Fender | Canacourse: X100P is not an FXS card and you don't plug PHONES into it |
| 14:51.41 | ManxPower | ~fxofxs |
| 14:51.41 | jbot | rumour has it, fxofxs is An FXO port (red Digium module) expects to receive dialtone and receive ring voltage. You can connect it to a PSTN line from the telco. An FXS port (green Digium module) expects to provide dialtone and provide ring voltage. You can connect a phone or a fax to it. |
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| 14:53.21 | l2trace99 | I don't listen to rumours , they can be very hurtful |
| 14:53.36 | Canacourse | This card is a clone. I have clear inscructions that it is a FXS card. also to doumentaiton that came with the card "signalling=fxs_ks" |
| 14:53.58 | Canacourse | it has 2 ports phone & line |
| 14:54.12 | ManxPower | Canacourse:Um, FXO ports use FXS signalling and FXS ports use FXO signalling (don't blame us, this is a telecom thing) |
| 14:54.31 | ManxPower | Canacourse: then you must contact the company that makes the card for support, as it is a card we've never seen before. |
| 14:54.58 | [TK]D-Fender | Canacourse: then your clear instructions are clearly wrong. |
| 14:55.13 | hi365 | can you set a variable using system()? |
| 14:55.19 | ManxPower | gads, it looks like a monday around here. |
| 14:55.20 | [TK]D-Fender | Canacourse: and fxs_ks is the signalling used for an FXO channel |
| 14:55.26 | [TK]D-Fender | hi365: You don't |
| 14:55.42 | ManxPower | hi365: yes, but the variable goes away when the script exits |
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| 14:56.53 | Canacourse | "Communication controller: Tiger Jet Network Inc. Tiger3XX Modem/ISDN interface" |
| 14:57.12 | ManxPower | Canacourse: you are saying nothing to indicate this is an FXS card. |
| 14:57.41 | ManxPower | all the other X100P clones we've seen have the two ports HARDWIRED togather, sort of like a built in phone splitter. |
| 14:57.59 | [TK]D-Fender | Canacourse: Perhaps when you referred to getting a MODULE for a TDM400P card. |
| 14:58.30 | Canacourse | bummer. Looks like I have the wrong card.. |
| 14:59.09 | [TK]D-Fender | Canacourse: if it has 1-2 jacks on the back its an X100P class card and not an FXS card. |
| 14:59.34 | Canacourse | I was really looking for a siple way to use an analog fax machine with asterisk |
| 14:59.37 | [TK]D-Fender | Canacourse: If its a 4 port modular card then its a TDM400P class card and can have FXO MODULES added to it |
| 14:59.49 | [TK]D-Fender | Canacourse: Buy a compatible interface then. |
| 14:59.55 | Nugget | http://macnugget.org/stuff/asterisk-irc.txt gets longer every month. :) |
| 14:59.57 | ManxPower | Canacourse: you and 10,000 other Asterisk users. If it was easy everyone would be doing it. |
| 15:00.23 | Canacourse | fair enought. thanks for saying me some time. |
| 15:01.02 | tzafrir_laptop | Canacourse, try: zaptel_hardware (if you have fairly recent zaptel) |
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| 15:02.32 | Canacourse | "pci:0000:00:09.0 wcfxo+ e159:0001 Wildcard X101P clone |
| 15:02.58 | [TK]D-Fender | Canacourse: Yup, dead-end |
| 15:04.29 | Canacourse | them FXS cards aint cheap. |
| 15:05.38 | [TK]D-Fender | Canacourse: You are advised to keep your fax machine as far away from * as possible |
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| 15:07.39 | Canacourse | i was gradually coming to that conclusion. I was never sure how successful it was going to be anyway. the lure of what i thought was a cheap fxs card on ebay started me on this road. |
| 15:08.44 | ManxPower | Telecom is expensive. |
| 15:08.45 | [TK]D-Fender | Canacourse: Keep paving Dante, you're almost there... |
| 15:10.11 | yang | [TK]D-Fender: what seems to be the problem here - http://pastebin.ca/1204376 |
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| 15:10.53 | yang | [TK]D-Fender: If i want pin i should place the number instead of "no-password" ? |
| 15:11.14 | [TK]D-Fender | yang: I would think the "big print" error message would give it away : [Sep 16 17:08:24] WARNING[8035]: pbx.c:1832 pbx_extension_helper: No application 'DigitTimeout' for extension (buster, 59209583, 2) |
| 15:11.44 | yang | [TK]D-Fender: yes, it requires additional plugin then? |
| 15:12.15 | [TK]D-Fender | yang: No, it requires you to stop calling dialplan applications that DON'T EXIST so that your extension can continue to execute |
| 15:12.33 | [TK]D-Fender | "plug in"... where do people come upwith this stuff? |
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| 15:14.12 | yang | [TK]D-Fender: i took it as example from the voip site |
| 15:14.26 | yang | when removing second and third line it works |
| 15:14.51 | [TK]D-Fender | yang: And you should be able to tell if the code is valid or not. Especially after the CLI tells you in no uncertain terms that it isn't |
| 15:15.19 | ManxPower | [TK]D-Fender: I guess yang did not read upgrade.txt or upgrade-1.2.txt |
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| 15:15.47 | [TK]D-Fender | yang: You could use some serious sit-down time with that fabulous book that is so graciously provided to you free of charge... |
| 15:15.48 | ManxPower | yang: that wiki page references an asterisk version that is 4 years old. |
| 15:16.01 | [TK]D-Fender | ManxPower: Aren't we on 1.4 and about to reach 1.6? :) |
| 15:16.05 | ManxPower | which is why I recommend you read the docs in the asterisk doc director |
| 15:16.33 | BrianR___ | I'm using a bunch of Polycom IP301's and 601's with Asterisk. Anyone know why the phone might resend a REGISTER request using the same nonce, instead of the one in the 401 response? |
| 15:16.40 | ManxPower | [TK]D-Fender: upgrade.txt would reference 1.4 and upgrade-1.2.txt references stuff in 1.2 that is going away in 1.4 like the application DigitTimeout. |
| 15:16.47 | ManxPower | the poor sod didn't read the docs. |
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| 15:21.20 | [TK]D-Fender | ManxPower: Or wonder about things like "what is this sign that says 'Don't push this big red button' trying to tell me?" |
| 15:21.40 | _Roman | Does anyone know of anywhere I could download an asterisk queue log for testing purposes? |
| 15:22.18 | [TK]D-Fender | _Roman: Might be a sample ont he WIKI, or you could just make a few calls yourself. There is also a good doc explaining its contents in the DOC folder. |
| 15:23.21 | ctaloi | hey all, quick question - I have a customer who needs to use an account code with will be stored in either a DB or a flat file, and the dial sequence will be ACCOUNT-CODE+9+NPA-NXX-XXXX - what's the best way to incorporate that into the dial plan - just looking for the proper application to call and read from the file I beleive.. |
| 15:23.32 | _Roman | thanks, I am after a nice big queue log file (bigger than I would be able to generate). |
| 15:23.56 | yang | [TK]D-Fender: the syntaxes are complex to understand if you don't have any coding skills... |
| 15:24.48 | ctaloi | @Roman - How large of a file are you looking for? |
| 15:25.17 | [TK]D-Fender | yang: And you've been here using * for HOW long? And there is a free BOOK, and a WIKI, and tons of web sites with guides. |
| 15:25.35 | Rico29 | do you absolutely need a GSM gateway to send sms via the SMS function ? |
| 15:25.39 | Rico29 | or is there another way ? |
| 15:25.46 | [TK]D-Fender | ctaloi: "core show application read" <- maybe |
| 15:25.49 | Rico29 | ~sms |
| 15:25.50 | jbot | sms is, like, Stop Making Sense, the greatest concert film ever, starring Talking Heads and directed by Jonathan Demme. Send message to mobile phones via the internet for free. |
| 15:25.54 | ManxPower | Rico29: no, in fact sending SMS via app_SMS will NOT work with a gateway. |
| 15:26.02 | Rico29 | ok |
| 15:26.06 | _Roman | ctaloi: as big as is possible. It would be nice to get a month (or more) of heavy usage |
| 15:26.06 | Rico29 | so how does it works ? |
| 15:26.07 | ctaloi | [TK]D-Fender thx |
| 15:26.20 | ManxPower | Rico29: app_SMS calls your SMS Carrier center, sends a modem burst with the text and hangs up. app_SMS does not work with USA/Canada carriers. |
| 15:26.53 | Rico29 | is it hard to configure , |
| 15:26.54 | Rico29 | ? |
| 15:27.12 | ManxPower | configure what? You don't configure app_SMS. |
| 15:27.51 | Rico29 | so where do you tell your SMS Carrier center number ? |
| 15:27.57 | ManxPower | Rico29: have you even done a "core show application SMS" |
| 15:28.08 | ManxPower | Rico29: I guess you contact the carrier and ask for the number for the SMSC |
| 15:28.17 | ManxPower | Rico29: what country are you located in" |
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| 15:28.23 | Rico29 | yes |
| 15:28.32 | Rico29 | france ManxPower |
| 15:28.41 | agx | is there a bug that with nat=yes symmetric RTP is broken? |
| 15:28.53 | ManxPower | you would need to contact your carrier or look on the internet |
| 15:29.00 | Rico29 | ok |
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| 15:29.50 | Rico29 | thanks ManxPower |
| 15:29.56 | Rico29 | i'll try to make it working |
| 15:30.41 | CrazyTux[m] | Anone know if / where the 635 npa exists? |
| 15:31.01 | ManxPower | CrazyTux[m]: google is down this morning? |
| 15:31.18 | yang | [TK]D-Fender: it got renamed in the recent version to Set(TIMEOUT(digit) |
| 15:31.22 | CrazyTux[m] | ManxPower, not bringing any results. |
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| 15:32.57 | ManxPower | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NANP_area_codes |
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| 15:33.28 | CrazyTux[m] | ManxPower, how updated is this wiki |
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| 15:33.54 | [TK]D-Fender | yang: RECENT?This was **2005* |
| 15:34.56 | ManxPower | yang: pretty much everyone here except you already know they removed DigitTimeout |
| 15:35.05 | yang | damn what an old reference on voip-info |
| 15:35.33 | ManxPower | yang: most of use voip-info as a place of last resort because it is so outdated and inaccurate. |
| 15:36.02 | yang | but its the most comprehensive collection with dialplan examples |
| 15:36.07 | [TK]D-Fender | The wiki is the 3rd or 4th place you should look for information... |
| 15:36.24 | [TK]D-Fender | Fisrt are : * DOC folder, * CLI, the BOOK |
| 15:36.30 | ManxPower | yang: read the included Asterisk docs first. |
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| 15:37.28 | ManxPower | In you MUST use voip-info.org make sure to have the UPGRADE*.txt files handy to see what things have changed after the wiki page was updated. |
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| 15:38.20 | [TK]D-Fender | Then again the ability to read the big-print error messages is paramount. If you can't see whats right in front of you, why bother? |
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| 15:39.26 | yang | ok |
| 15:40.29 | ManxPower | [TK]D-Fender: Digium should put all their docs on a wiki. That way people with a fetish for wikis will find the info. |
| 15:41.09 | [TK]D-Fender | ManxPower: If we cared enough I supopse we should rebuild our own. |
| 15:41.45 | [TK]D-Fender | ManxPower: and a WIKI is a great tool. Then again the committee building that horse had better be up to the challenge |
| 15:41.48 | ManxPower | [TK]D-Fender: If people can't figure out to look in a directory called "doc" then they are far, far beyond any help I can give. |
| 15:41.57 | [TK]D-Fender | ManxPower: Oh that goes without saying |
| 15:42.40 | outtolunc | yeah i love how people never look in README files <G> |
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| 15:50.26 | agx | is there some parameters to avoid sending RTP when receiving a 183 progress message? |
| 15:50.28 | jaytee | Who needs the docs and the wiki? I just picked up a copy of "All I ever needed to know about Asterisk I learned by bugging the hell out of [TK]D-Fender and Manxpower on IRC" written by Jeev. |
| 15:51.13 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: Your forgot Qwell & russellb |
| 15:51.22 | Qwell | huh? |
| 15:51.29 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender, ooops. my bad |
| 15:51.37 | gcbirzan | qwell sucks. |
| 15:51.59 | jeev | lol jaytee |
| 15:52.00 | jeev | asshole |
| 15:52.12 | jeev | i haven't bothered qwell, he's just threatened to ban me a few times |
| 15:52.13 | jaytee | whoa! that's rude and totally incorrect. gcbirzan you need an attitude adjustment. |
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| 15:53.13 | jeev | and i'm gonna name my book, "who cares about docs, the story about #asterisk on freenode" by jeev |
| 15:53.29 | russellb | jeev messages me a lot, but it's rarely about asterisk, heh |
| 15:53.33 | russellb | :) |
| 15:53.36 | yang | jeev: haha ok |
| 15:54.00 | jeev | bah |
| 15:54.02 | jaytee | jeev, you should at least dedicate the book to ManxPower for helping you with the GRE tunnelling. |
| 15:54.11 | jeev | <russellb> so i was walking outside.... what were you doing? |
| 15:54.13 | jeev | i get shit like that! |
| 15:54.17 | jeev | lol |
| 15:54.22 | jeev | manxpower gets his own book |
| 15:54.39 | jeev | 'gre tunneling, when i didn't know about it, manxpower was there from #asterisk on freenode' part 2 |
| 15:55.08 | BrianR___ | After a 401, the phone is supposed to use the nonce is a 401 to generate a repeat registration request, right? |
| 15:55.13 | yang | jeev: lets get the hints written into "Asterisk for Dummies" and sell it for cheap :) |
| 15:55.19 | BrianR___ | err.. s/is a/in the/ |
| 15:55.20 | jeev | lol |
| 15:55.25 | jeev | chapter 1, nagging |
| 15:55.46 | jeev | so this is what i did dummies, take a slash, "/" and then add msg, then space, then russellb and then space, then your question |
| 15:55.51 | jeev | then press the return key. |
| 15:56.00 | jaytee | chapter 2, jitter has nothing to do with too much caffiene |
| 15:56.07 | jeev | if no reply is receiving via a red light up thingy, then bombard him. |
| 15:56.23 | jeev | chapter 3 |
| 15:56.32 | jeev | even rollerbladers know something about asterisk |
| 15:56.44 | jaytee | lol |
| 15:56.58 | yang | jeev: This would however be for the highly qualified dummies, you cannot put it alongside with Windows XP start up tricks :) |
| 15:57.37 | outtolunc | be easier to just build a STT/TTS interface, call it app_wiki <G> |
| 15:57.43 | agx | anyway, voip-info.org has some asterisk wikis, unluckly its overruned by commercial crap website selling phones |
| 15:58.05 | yang | agx: what is wrong, they need to make some extra profit, what is free today? |
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| 15:58.07 | jaytee | gotta grab some lunch. bbiab |
| 15:59.10 | jeev | lol |
| 15:59.20 | jeev | chapter 4, fender, the swing state |
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| 16:13.26 | [TK]D-Fender | You gotta jump, jive, and then you wail! |
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| 16:18.25 | rpm | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:21.38 | russellb | no |
| 16:21.51 | russellb | it's not possible |
| 16:23.35 | hi365 | wonders what the hardware difference really is |
| 16:25.10 | [TK]D-Fender | rpm: I've got this paperclip. If I add some duct tape, a piece of chewing gum, and a Swiss Army Knife.... can't I make a T1 frame analyser? |
| 16:25.35 | rpm | [tk]d-fender, you forgot the fine pixie dust. |
| 16:25.39 | ManxPower | for one thing if you plug a phone line into an FXS port, the first time the line rings you will blow your module. |
| 16:25.48 | coppice | FXO == isolated, can apply loop, can detect ring, may be able to detect reversal |
| 16:25.50 | coppice | FXS == non-isolated, can apply volts, can apply ring, may be able to reverse volts |
| 16:26.22 | [TK]D-Fender | coppice: Esp since ringing IS a polarity reversal ;) |
| 16:26.54 | coppice | no it isn't |
| 16:27.06 | [TK]D-Fender | coppice: AC on the line last I checked... |
| 16:27.15 | ManxPower | I thought ringing was "hey chip make the phone ring!" |
| 16:27.23 | rpm | [tk]d-fender, 90 volts on the line is ringing. |
| 16:27.43 | rpm | well. it peaks at 90.. |
| 16:28.10 | coppice | ringing is generally -48V DC + 90V RMS AC. with some ports the -48V can actually be reversed while the ring is on |
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| 16:31.44 | hi365 | yeh - i relize that there different. what im wondering is, how big of a deal would it be to but both functions on the same chip and control them via software? |
| 16:32.14 | coppice | hi365: such a thing exists, but its rare and expensive |
| 16:32.52 | hi365 | thats a good enough reason (although mass manufacturing them would probebly minimize that reason as well) |
| 16:33.21 | coppice | nope. its inherently a big piece of silicon to achieve the high voltage isolation |
| 16:33.35 | [TK]D-Fender | hi365: Sur, you could make a dual purpose module. Go right ahead. But that wasn't how this one was designed, so live with... |
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| 16:34.04 | coppice | I'm not sure such a thing has ever been offered as a merchant market chip, but custom ones exist |
| 16:34.04 | ManxPower | must. wait. for. ups. |
| 16:34.05 | hi365 | [TK]D-Fender: ive learned to live with you, so living with the module situation cant be to hard... |
| 16:34.09 | hi365 | :) |
| 16:34.18 | [TK]D-Fender | hi365: I can accept that :) |
| 16:34.39 | ManxPower | My first LCD monitor is "out for delivery" |
| 16:34.55 | hi365 | hu? do you live under a stone? |
| 16:34.59 | mort_gib | LCD monitor??? |
| 16:35.10 | hi365 | or is that a lcd 82" tv? |
| 16:35.43 | [TK]D-Fender | 82" TV? .... smalll |
| 16:36.12 | ManxPower | 21.6" LCD computer monitor |
| 16:36.12 | [TK]D-Fender | My * server has far bigger :) |
| 16:36.32 | coppice | sitting right in front of a 65" LCD being used as a monitor is pretty intimidating. makes your neck ache too |
| 16:36.50 | ManxPower | hi365: why would I spend 30% more for a new monitor when my existing display was just fine? |
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| 16:37.30 | [TK]D-Fender | coppice: I'm at about 7-8 feet from my 120" :D |
| 16:37.45 | hi365 | wher i live the price of a foot of real estate is far greater thatn the difference betewwn an lcd and thoes big old space wasters |
| 16:37.53 | coppice | a panel or a projector? |
| 16:38.02 | [TK]D-Fender | coppice: Projector |
| 16:38.25 | coppice | can't get close to those without making a shadow. |
| 16:38.34 | hi365 | hu, where still talking about displays, right? |
| 16:39.58 | ManxPower | hi365: where I live rent is $225/month |
| 16:40.15 | hi365 | for what? |
| 16:40.28 | Qwell | a tent? |
| 16:40.37 | ManxPower | hi365: Well, I have a 12x12 cabin connected to a 12x30 cabin |
| 16:40.57 | ManxPower | I own the building, lease the land. |
| 16:40.59 | [TK]D-Fender | coppice: I can barely stand in front of the couch (I'm 6'2") before casting a shadow, a minor crouch as I pass and no interruption for the persona next to me. |
| 16:41.34 | [TK]D-Fender | ManxPower: Wow, cheap... a lot of people would bend over backwards for a deal like that! |
| 16:41.39 | jaytee | ManxPower, are there bears? |
| 16:41.45 | [TK]D-Fender | is a bad BAD person.... |
| 16:41.52 | ManxPower | [TK]D-Fender: they are bending over forwards around these parts. 8-) |
| 16:42.08 | coppice | sitting 1/2 a metre from a 65" LCD working as a monitor was a strange experience. however, the room was full of 52" and 65" displays being used like that all day :-) |
| 16:42.11 | ManxPower | hey, you started it! |
| 16:45.41 | ManxPower | 21.6" was the biggest before the big price jumps that I could find. |
| 16:46.08 | coppice | 24" isn't much more than 21.6 these days |
| 16:46.33 | ManxPower | the shelf my CRT monitor is on has started to bow quite a bit. Rather than fixing the shelf, I did the right geek thing and replaced the monitor with a lighter one. |
| 16:46.50 | ManxPower | coppice: it was still higher than the price point I was willing to pay. |
| 16:47.00 | Qwell | ManxPower: the geek thing would have been hanging it upside down and flipping the output |
| 16:47.22 | coppice | the 24" I'm using now was about $300. How cheap do you want to be? |
| 16:47.34 | ManxPower | I think I paid $220 including shipping |
| 16:47.57 | coppice | well, I paid 0 shipping, so that helped :-) |
| 16:48.20 | coppice | why has shipping anything from the US gone up alarmingly in the last year? |
| 16:50.17 | xuser | gas? |
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| 16:50.49 | coppice | I can still send things from asia to europe at last years prices |
| 16:51.53 | ManxPower | I suspect it's because of the weak dollar |
| 16:52.15 | [TK]D-Fender | ManxPower: But the fundamentals of the economy are strong! |
| 16:52.25 | [TK]D-Fender | ManxPower: I heard it, it must be true! |
| 16:52.33 | coppice | unless you're a bank |
| 16:54.07 | coppice | I bet my friend's brother in law is sizing up a larger mercedes - he's a liquidator. he always gets to buy a new car with the deals are at their best :-) |
| 16:54.26 | ManxPower | [TK]D-Fender: sort of like the message on the mailing list recently claiming the poster "heard" that Asterisk could not handle any more than 100 calls. |
| 16:54.49 | [TK]D-Fender | coppice: Or middle class. Or male. Or female. |
| 16:54.51 | ManxPower | what the poster "heard" was that you should not put more than one quad card in a server. |
| 16:55.36 | [TK]D-Fender | wow AIG too now.. |
| 16:55.51 | coppice | basically, anything but super cash rich |
| 16:56.09 | [TK]D-Fender | coppice: Unless its in USD$ at which poitn... |
| 16:56.54 | coppice | USD$ is fine if the assets you want to buy for pennies are in the US. these down times are the main way the super rich get super richer |
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| 16:59.30 | nr4q | polycom phone+microbrowser+php = awesome |
| 17:01.00 | jjshoe | super richer? |
| 17:01.03 | jjshoe | lol |
| 17:01.15 | jameswf-home | Polycomm(or any phone really) + Microwave === awesome |
| 17:01.43 | [TK]D-Fender | nr4q: Congrats. used the Idle page yet? |
| 17:01.58 | nr4q | fender: yeah that's what i was really talking about |
| 17:02.08 | [TK]D-Fender | jameswf-home: Start with CD's they're cheap for the fun you'll have ;) |
| 17:02.47 | scooby2 | anyone know what this error means? Google'ing gets me many answers. Channel 0/1, span 2 got hangup request, cause 16 |
| 17:02.49 | jameswf-home | often gets his tech for free so a demo phone will set me back $0 the cost of the microwave on the otherhand... |
| 17:03.07 | jameswf-home | cause 16 Normal clear |
| 17:03.10 | scooby2 | just had it happen for every Channel that was active |
| 17:04.03 | scooby2 | 16 times in the same second |
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| 17:04.50 | jameswf-home | I would say your provider probably dropped |
| 17:04.59 | scooby2 | thats what I was thinking |
| 17:05.21 | jameswf-home | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+variable+hangupcause |
| 17:05.28 | scooby2 | thanks |
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| 17:15.34 | TheSov | does anyone know why i can recieve incoming calls, people hear me but i cannot hear them? |
| 17:18.08 | [TK]D-Fender | TheSov: Typically firewall/NAT issues |
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| 17:19.12 | TheSov | theirs no nat, it has a static external ip. i am not adept at firewalls how would i check it, its on an ubuntu server box |
| 17:19.49 | RoadKillDK | then it may be a routing problem (reinvite) |
| 17:20.08 | TheSov | i have reinvite=no right now |
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| 17:20.41 | TheSov | err canreinvite=no |
| 17:20.43 | RoadKillDK | mute !!! |
| 17:20.54 | TheSov | good idea to check that |
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| 17:21.36 | TheSov | nope not it |
| 17:21.52 | TheSov | perhaps the ubuntu firewall then |
| 17:22.01 | RoadKillDK | also try change codec (20/30ms) |
| 17:22.22 | RoadKillDK | asterisk g.711 only work with 20ms |
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| 17:22.57 | TheSov | i dont think i set that |
| 17:23.04 | StephenF | any ideas why i woul be getting choppy audio with playback and background but moh is fine? |
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| 17:23.30 | [TK]D-Fender | TheSov: Go look. |
| 17:23.52 | [TK]D-Fender | StephenF: How are calls? playback of what? |
| 17:24.19 | StephenF | Calls seem ok, playback of audio files |
| 17:24.19 | RoadKillDK | coppy audio in most chase because the file is not in ram, moh is used more and is therefor buffered by linux |
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| 17:24.38 | StephenF | Ahh so i could be a low RAM issue? |
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| 17:25.05 | [TK]D-Fender | StephenF: Which "audio files"? |
| 17:25.17 | RoadKillDK | or that the hdd is to bussy |
| 17:25.26 | StephenF | the ones that come with Asterisk, /var/lib/asterisk/sounds |
| 17:25.42 | [TK]D-Fender | StephenF: Typically caused by compiling * with GCC 4.2+ <- |
| 17:25.44 | TheSov | ok nvm that was a nat=yes problem when it should have been no |
| 17:26.00 | TheSov | got another ? im having issues dialing out |
| 17:26.03 | [TK]D-Fender | StephenF: it causes optimizastion errors that distort GSM transcoding |
| 17:26.07 | StephenF | [TK]D-Fender: yeah I think you told me that yesterday, I installed GCC 4.1 and recompiled asterisk but no change |
| 17:26.26 | [TK]D-Fender | StephenF: Perhaps you didn't do it correctly. |
| 17:26.33 | StephenF | its definetly possible |
| 17:26.52 | StephenF | I also thought it might be a timing issue, and I ran zttest and got -200% |
| 17:27.03 | StephenF | does that sound like a problem? |
| 17:27.11 | [TK]D-Fender | StephenF: EW, an't be good, but not normally into play for this |
| 17:27.19 | StephenF | ok |
| 17:28.06 | StephenF | Is there anyway to compile with GCC 4.2 to avoid the optimization? I thought I read somewhere you could do that. |
| 17:28.25 | StephenF | Im thinking I might run into issues with somethings compiled with 4.2 and others 4.1 |
| 17:28.32 | [TK]D-Fender | StephenF: Yesterday someone linked a patch for it. |
| 17:28.48 | StephenF | ahh, for GCC or Asterisk? |
| 17:28.53 | [TK]D-Fender | StephenF: * |
| 17:29.46 | StephenF | ok I'll look for that |
| 17:30.02 | StephenF | I'm going to try to remove everything and do a clean install |
| 17:30.45 | StephenF | [TK]D-Fender: was the patch submitted in mantis? I don't see anything for yesterday |
| 17:31.09 | [TK]D-Fender | StephenF: I didn't crack down and make a jbot infolet on it unfortunately... |
| 17:31.17 | StephenF | hehe |
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| 17:31.32 | [TK]D-Fender | StephenF: And I can't even recall who did it, thought its a person whose been here a long time I don't know that well... |
| 17:31.48 | [TK]D-Fender | is a little off on his game this week |
| 17:31.52 | Qwell | CC=gcc-4.2 ./configure |
| 17:31.53 | TheSov | is their a good place to post my sip and extentions.conf so maybe one of you could tell me why i cant dial out |
| 17:32.13 | Qwell | that should be all you need |
| 17:32.14 | StephenF | lol, the fact that you know a patch was submitted is good enough for me |
| 17:32.53 | StephenF | Qwell: that would just compile with 4.2, still having the optimization problems no? |
| 17:33.37 | [TK]D-Fender | TheSov: enable SIP debug and look at the conversation. |
| 17:33.43 | [TK]D-Fender | TheSov: PASTEBIN is your friend. |
| 17:33.45 | [TK]D-Fender | ~pb |
| 17:33.46 | jbot | [~pb] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste |
| 17:33.58 | [TK]D-Fender | StephenF: ShhhH! You'll ruin his cunning plan! |
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| 17:36.51 | StephenF | :) |
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| 17:42.48 | mintee | is there a way to do a followme without the announcments of the dialer etc? |
| 17:43.05 | mintee | without editing the actual followme app and recompile? |
| 17:44.11 | TheSov | http://pastebin.com/mc1c3e09 |
| 17:45.01 | TheSov | can anyone tell me why i cant dial out? |
| 17:46.31 | [TK]D-Fender | TheSov: and I told you to look at the CLI with SIP debug |
| 17:46.59 | TheSov | it just says no route to destination |
| 17:47.00 | [TK]D-Fender | TheSov: When your call doesn't care whats in your dialplan, then showing use your dialplan is useless. |
| 17:47.11 | StephenF | ahh found it: http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=11243 |
| 17:47.12 | [TK]D-Fender | TheSov: I'm sure it says a whole lot more than thtat |
| 17:47.50 | TheSov | unable to create channel of type 'SIP' (cause 3 - No route to destination) everyone is busy / congested at this time |
| 17:48.43 | TheSov | no such host zap/g2 on chan_sip.c |
| 17:48.47 | TheSov | thats it |
| 17:49.04 | [TK]D-Fender | ~gsmbug |
| 17:49.06 | jbot | [~gsmbug] there is a bug compiling Asterisk with GCC 4.2 where optimization errors cause GSM transcoding to distort heavily. Compile with GCC 4.1 or lower, or follow this patch : http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=11243 |
| 17:49.34 | [TK]D-Fender | TheSov: PASTEBIN the complete output of your failed call with SIP debug. |
| 17:49.48 | TheSov | how do i add sip debug? |
| 17:49.56 | [TK]D-Fender | TheSov: "sip debug" |
| 17:49.58 | mintee | sip debug |
| 17:50.07 | xuser | sip set debug :) |
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| 17:51.40 | TheSov | is their anything security wise i should remove from this? |
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| 17:52.36 | [TK]D-Fender | TheSov: Only passwords |
| 17:52.46 | [TK]D-Fender | TheSov: typically no, don't filer anything |
| 17:52.49 | cph_ | hi, i've a system that was previously working, but w've now |
| 17:53.17 | TheSov | http://pastebin.com/md188fdd here u go |
| 17:53.33 | TheSov | and, I just wanna go on record to say that i appreciate this very much |
| 17:54.00 | cph_ | hi, i've a system that was previously working, but we'e now moved offices and although we can receive calls, we cannot make them. I'm using trixbox and the zaptel drivers. anyone got any ideas of where I should start ? |
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| 17:54.28 | rwaite | waits for 1.4.22 |
| 17:54.38 | [TK]D-Fender | TheSov: Looks like you changed the value of a global variable and you didn't restart * |
| 17:54.54 | [TK]D-Fender | TheSov: -- Executing [17733201433@default:1] Dial("SIP/400-081d7380", "SIP/17733201433@Zap/g2|60|r") in new stack |
| 17:55.09 | [TK]D-Fender | TheSov: Betting TRUNK used to be "Zap/g2" |
| 17:55.12 | Blackvel | hi guys. anyone of you using snom370? is it possible to edit/set the last missed caller numbers manually by a sip message without actually dialing the snom phone |
| 17:55.12 | TheSov | hmm i dont have any zaptel stuff |
| 17:55.26 | TheSov | never, this is a new install |
| 17:55.57 | [TK]D-Fender | therestart * and retest |
| 17:56.09 | [TK]D-Fender | TheSov: that didn't come from nowhere. |
| 17:56.31 | Blackvel | looks like there is hot analyzing going on here :) |
| 17:56.58 | [TK]D-Fender | TheSov: exten => _1NXXNXXXXXX,1,Dial(SIP/${EXTEN}@${TRUNK},60,r) <- ${TRUNK} is clearly resolving as Zap/g2 |
| 17:57.19 | [TK]D-Fender | TheSov: So it must be from a value you changed for that global |
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| 17:57.30 | [TK]D-Fender | TheSov: restart * completely and retest |
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| 17:59.43 | TheSov | its still showing that zap thing |
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| 18:00.08 | TheSov | in sip.conf and extentions.conf their is no zap/g2 |
| 18:00.59 | [TK]D-Fender | TheSov: replace your use of that global variable and hard-code it. |
| 18:01.19 | [TK]D-Fender | TheSov: Its coming from somewhere, so just code it out |
| 18:01.31 | TheSov | ok will do |
| 18:01.34 | nny_2 | freaking a. Ok on hold with digium support. Have a client who is getting echo on their end only on some calls. Using hardware echo cancel on Digium T1 card. Is there ANY other place that it could coming from? |
| 18:01.39 | nny_2 | no headsets etc |
| 18:02.36 | rwaite | would it be a good idea to install asterisk into /usr/local? |
| 18:03.01 | [TK]D-Fender | rwaite: If you have a good reason to why not... |
| 18:03.11 | [TK]D-Fender | rwaite: tahts a very BSD way to go. |
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| 18:06.49 | rwaite | [TK]D-Fender: well, i'm testing a seperate machine for the move to lenny in a few months. trying to get the kinks worked out now. one of the things that always bugged me was no debian pkg for the latest ver. i suppose i could roll my own, but partitioning it off into /usr/local may be less hassle in the long run |
| 18:07.23 | jaytee | I wish Digium made something like this to go with their T1/E1 cards http://www.voicetronix.com/openpri.htm#accessories |
| 18:08.55 | [TK]D-Fender | rwaite: Or just do a basic normal isntall like the rest of us. |
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| 18:11.07 | rwaite | [TK]D-Fender: we, i was just asking |
| 18:11.22 | [TK]D-Fender | rwaite: And I'm just sayin' |
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| 18:14.41 | mintee | so, again, is there a way to call follow me without it prompting for the persons name, or should I just A.) edit the app_followme.c or B.) Write a macro? |
| 18:15.06 | TheSov | http://pastebin.com/d1fa09b16 new errors same result |
| 18:15.07 | [TK]D-Fender | mintee: Write your own. |
| 18:15.58 | mintee | i could easily cp app_followme.c app_followme_silent.c, but i'm not sure how to bind it to the rest of * |
| 18:16.27 | [TK]D-Fender | TheSov: if result = failure, then it comes is more flavours than Baskin & Robbins |
| 18:16.39 | TheSov | doh |
| 18:16.44 | jaytee | mintee, there are docs for that on asterisk.org I believe in the section for developers |
| 18:16.53 | [TK]D-Fender | TheSov: SIP/2.0 604 Does not exist anywhere <- I don't like your # |
| 18:17.04 | TheSov | but its a real # |
| 18:17.08 | TheSov | i dial it all the time |
| 18:17.11 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: lol. |
| 18:17.17 | mintee | thanks jaytee, i'll check it out |
| 18:17.19 | [TK]D-Fender | TheSov: maybe its the FORMAT |
| 18:17.26 | TheSov | ahh |
| 18:17.30 | [TK]D-Fender | themaybe they don't like you dialing a "1" in front |
| 18:17.42 | [TK]D-Fender | TheSov: Like so many providers... |
| 18:17.51 | TheSov | ok i can lose the 1 |
| 18:17.59 | TheSov | and try it |
| 18:18.07 | [TK]D-Fender | TheSov: You can certainly try and see. |
| 18:18.07 | TheSov | what other format changes should i try? |
| 18:18.13 | jaytee | mintee, nevermind, I thought you meant writing your own module based on followme.c not just mangling something. |
| 18:18.16 | [TK]D-Fender | TheSov: ! at a time |
| 18:18.18 | [TK]D-Fender | 1* |
| 18:18.30 | [TK]D-Fender | TheSov: Before you bury yourself in more problems |
| 18:18.53 | mintee | jaytee, i mean using followme.c, but just removing most of the promptage |
| 18:19.26 | [TK]D-Fender | What a complete waste of an app. Nothing you can't do in straight dialplan and at least that can be dynamic. |
| 18:19.46 | TheSov | ok it wasnt the #1 |
| 18:19.56 | TheSov | maybe codec? |
| 18:20.05 | jaytee | mintee, well like I said, there's some info on writing stuff for * in the dev section of Asterisk.org, not sure if it'll be much help and it'll probably be like pulling teeth and no one else will support it. |
| 18:20.15 | [TK]D-Fender | TheSov: No its clearly the # they don't like. Why don't you ask them? |
| 18:20.43 | TheSov | speakeasy does not support 3rd party hardware |
| 18:21.00 | TheSov | they will repeat that mantra and hang up the phone |
| 18:21.03 | mintee | jaytee, yeah, i think i might as well work on a dialplan... I have successfully edited the app_voicemail.c to my liking, but that's a global app, and this new version of followme would not be global |
| 18:21.05 | jameswf-home | I had to go have teeth pulled and they were well rooted the dentest broke a sweat I looked at him and said holy crap its like pulling teeth isn't it.... |
| 18:21.24 | mintee | lol jameswf-home |
| 18:21.51 | jaytee | mintee, better to stick to using what * has built in by coding it in the dialplan, reinventing the wheel just wastes time and effort. |
| 18:22.04 | jaytee | like [TK]D-Fender said |
| 18:22.05 | mintee | mhmm |
| 18:22.19 | mintee | i see some old dialplans like http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+tips+findme |
| 18:22.24 | [TK]D-Fender | TheSov: From: "Philly 1" <sip:400@10.1.9.9>;tag=28D5B99D-9F15E728 <-- maybe the also don't like you trying to tell them your CID is a 3-digit number |
| 18:22.36 | mintee | and honestly, i'm scared of alot of the older info on voip-info.org |
| 18:22.50 | [TK]D-Fender | mintee: The core stuff is the same. Use it. |
| 18:23.02 | mintee | [TK]D-Fender, word |
| 18:23.07 | jaytee | and there's not much you cannot do in the dialplan with the apps and functions already there except discipline my cats and I never had that as an expectation. |
| 18:23.12 | mintee | "Philly 1" Who else is in philly? |
| 18:23.38 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: app_blacklist, app_followme, and a few others = complete waste |
| 18:24.11 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender, fortunately I've never needed to use either of those. |
| 18:24.42 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: there's another 1 or 2 that should come to mind but don't currently, but there is plenty we could trim. |
| 18:25.06 | jameswf-home | You could put shock collars on your cats and have asterisk controll them |
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| 18:25.42 | jaytee | jameswf-home, damn! don't start giving me ideas. And they aren't my cats, I am their "staff". |
| 18:25.49 | jaytee | that's how it works with felines. |
| 18:27.17 | jameswf-home | my cat doesnt bother me as long as i leave the doggy door open and a full bowl of food |
| 18:27.38 | jameswf-home | she spends her time harassing the dogs |
| 18:28.24 | StephenF | [TK]D-Fender: can I apply that gcc related patch to the latest asterisk 1.4.21.2? The patch looks like it was made for 1.4.17 |
| 18:28.38 | [TK]D-Fender | StephenF: Dunno, go try. |
| 18:28.56 | jameswf-home | ~try |
| 18:28.57 | jbot | Try not. Do. Or do not. There is no try. |
| 18:28.57 | StephenF | can't find file to patch at input line 4 |
| 18:28.58 | StephenF | Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option? |
| 18:29.25 | jameswf-home | maybe you used the wrong strip option |
| 18:29.31 | StephenF | im running 'wget 'http://bugs.digium.com/file_download.php?file_id=17329&type=bug' -O - | patch -p0' inside my src directory |
| 18:29.41 | jameswf-home | try -p1 |
| 18:29.44 | StephenF | ok |
| 18:30.12 | StephenF | ahh that worked, so is that stripping the version number? |
| 18:30.41 | jameswf-home | no path |
| 18:30.55 | StephenF | ok, so it will match my path |
| 18:34.30 | [TK]D-Fender | jameswf-home: that bot-let = gold |
| 18:36.04 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender, my Polycoms are using bootrom 3.2.3 and SIP 2.1.2. I don't see any reason to update at this point because everything works fine but I'd like your expert opinion. |
| 18:36.53 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: Look at the changelogs through 3.1 and see if there is something you feel you really want to risk it for |
| 18:37.58 | lmadsen | jaytee: don't fix what ain't broke |
| 18:38.17 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: thats the less nice way of saying it ;) |
| 18:38.54 | mintee | ok, i'm totally embarassed... That was stupid easy |
| 18:39.34 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: Typically I do SIP upgrades, but as long as the BR is compatible thats the LAST thing I want to change. if you fudge the app you can reflash. If you mess up the BR you're toast |
| 18:39.40 | jeev | larry madsen |
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| 18:50.07 | TheSov | [TK]D-Fender: so from looking at my setup you can see nothing wrong with the way i dial? |
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| 18:50.24 | Specialist1 | hello folks ! |
| 18:50.45 | [TK]D-Fender | TheSov: look at the # you are claiming to be, and the # you are dialing. |
| 18:50.59 | TheSov | ok |
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| 18:51.28 | [TK]D-Fender | TheSov: then call your provider and get their opinion |
| 18:51.43 | [TK]D-Fender | TheSov: Feel free to compare your approach to any other documented * configs for them as well |
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| 18:55.13 | TheSov | my provider is an ass who's mantra is to continue to say that 3rd party devices are not supported |
| 18:55.18 | TheSov | so they will be no help |
| 18:55.23 | TheSov | but i will keep tryin |
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| 19:02.28 | StephenF | Damn, recompiling with that patch still did not fix the choppy audio |
| 19:03.23 | StephenF | ive only got 7652k free memory, maybe that is the problem |
| 19:04.51 | StephenF | i called 500 using the * sample files, the demo audio file is choppy but then it forwards me to digium call center?? |
| 19:05.05 | StephenF | that part is crystal clear |
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| 19:07.24 | rift0r | hi, suddenly since a reboot I am having audio delay issues with asterisjk |
| 19:07.26 | rift0r | asterisk |
| 19:07.33 | rift0r | i haven't had any firewall changes or kernel changes |
| 19:07.45 | rift0r | i can call someone from zoiper, and it takes sometimes 10 secs for them to hear me |
| 19:08.01 | rift0r | any ideas |
| 19:08.02 | rift0r | ? |
| 19:08.16 | rift0r | and it seems intermittent... sometimes it goes right thru, other times there is a delay |
| 19:08.58 | rift0r | I am connected to asterisk via IAX2 and zoiper, and my calls are going out via SIP to viatalk |
| 19:10.28 | mchou | 10 second delay? That's incredible |
| 19:10.34 | StephenF | [TK]D-Fender: that patch didnt seem to work... Any other ideas? |
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| 19:12.05 | [TK]D-Fender | StephenF: Back to better recompile attempts |
| 19:12.20 | StephenF | what do you mean? |
| 19:12.26 | [TK]D-Fender | StephenF: Or you can always trash your GSP sounds entirely and install other codecs only |
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| 19:12.42 | [TK]D-Fender | StephenF: You said that you weren't necessarily sure that you did it right... |
| 19:12.49 | StephenF | I just re-did it |
| 19:13.33 | StephenF | I tried removing the .gsm files and left only .ulaw and .alaw |
| 19:13.38 | StephenF | that had the same problem |
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| 19:19.14 | StephenF | Does that mean it might not be a problem with gsm optimization? |
| 19:23.42 | Blackvel | have a good evening |
| 19:23.59 | ManxPower | StephenF: you are not using a Linksys or SIPura device, are you? |
| 19:24.09 | StephenF | no, just x-lite right now |
| 19:24.57 | ManxPower | With softphones if you have a 10 second delay you should start looking at the audio drivers on the PC |
| 19:24.58 | [TK]D-Fender | StephenF: calls are fine, only prompts are bad? |
| 19:25.00 | StephenF | yes, once I get connected to Digium it sounds perfect |
| 19:25.07 | ManxPower | [TK]D-Fender: think he has a bad kernel HZ? |
| 19:25.32 | StephenF | BTW i dont know if it is related but running zttest gives me values like -200% |
| 19:25.38 | [TK]D-Fender | ManxPower: I'd like to think I'd ahve heard about the warnings he should ahve gotten were that the case |
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| 19:25.55 | fudpucker1 | hey all |
| 19:26.17 | fudpucker1 | quick question....is zaptel supposed to lock /dev/rtc. when i have zaptel running, i can't set the hwclock |
| 19:26.31 | ManxPower | [TK]D-Fender: I've never seen warnings with ztdummy + kernel Hz != 1000 |
| 19:26.43 | ManxPower | just audio not working for Playback/Background |
| 19:26.53 | StephenF | ManxPower: any way to test? |
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| 19:27.21 | sqweez | hi |
| 19:27.52 | sqweez | need help with hylafax + IAXModem |
| 19:28.13 | StephenF | Its not a delay, the sound is garbled. I can just barely undertand it, pieces are missing |
| 19:28.21 | ManxPower | StephenF: rmmod ztdummy if it starts working you know that is the problem |
| 19:28.23 | sqweez | can't receive any fax, Hylafax don't Answer |
| 19:29.01 | StephenF | ManxPower: holy crap it sounds perfect after rmmod ztdummy |
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| 19:29.07 | ManxPower | There you go. |
| 19:29.07 | StephenF | so what does that mean |
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| 19:29.13 | TheSov | is it possible to run a network sniffer on the hardware device from speakeasy and find out how it makes the phone calls? |
| 19:29.23 | ManxPower | You are welcome to send a donation to the ManxPower Beer Fund via Paypal to eric@fnords.org |
| 19:29.35 | TheSov | because it doesnt make sense that i can recieve calls but not make them |
| 19:29.48 | StephenF | hehe, but why is that happening and what are the effect of not running ztdummy? |
| 19:29.49 | ManxPower | StephenF: it means you should not run ztdummy unless you MUST have MeetMe or IAX2 trunking. |
| 19:29.51 | sqweez | simple question : iaxmoem is running in CLI (not daemon mode) when i start hylafax, should there any message in iaxmodem tty ? |
| 19:30.13 | StephenF | ManxPower: so I cant use a IAX provider? |
| 19:30.17 | ManxPower | if you MUST use MeetMe / IAX2 trunking, then you need to recompile your kernel with Kernel HZ set to 1000 |
| 19:30.27 | ManxPower | StephenF: you can use IAX2, just not IAX2 w/trunking support. |
| 19:30.37 | StephenF | hmm, weird I wonde why it wasnt already set too 1000 |
| 19:30.49 | StephenF | ohh just no trunking |
| 19:30.52 | ManxPower | StephenF: 1000 used to be the standard, then distros started screwing with it |
| 19:31.00 | StephenF | like ubuntu? |
| 19:31.26 | ManxPower | StephenF: I don't ever use ztdummy -- I just see report after report of audio problems being fixed by removing ztdummy |
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| 19:32.03 | StephenF | crazy, so without iax2 trunking does that mean I cant have multiple calls at once? I'm not sure what trunking means |
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| 19:32.31 | ManxPower | StephenF: IAX2 trunking is a way to save bandwidth when you have two or more calls between the same two hosts. |
| 19:32.53 | StephenF | ohh ok. So like two asterisk boxes talking |
| 19:33.08 | StephenF | yeah I wont need that, IM just using it at home right now |
| 19:33.10 | [TK]D-Fender | StephenF: No |
| 19:33.19 | ManxPower | no, like having two or more calls between the same two devices |
| 19:34.01 | StephenF | oh |
| 19:34.01 | StephenF | when would you do that? |
| 19:34.01 | [TK]D-Fender | StephenF: Trunking is when you have multiple calls between 2 peers sharing the same packet for voice saving the overhead |
| 19:34.01 | ManxPower | StephenF: if you had 2 or more calls going to the same box. That is why you would want it. To save bandwidth |
| 19:34.17 | ManxPower | If you use trunking with 1 call, it uses MORE bandwidth |
| 19:34.19 | soulfreshner | I've set up a very simple ivr context where when I press 1 it should play hello-world and if I press 2 it plays tt-weasels |
| 19:34.27 | soulfreshner | it works fine with the soft phne |
| 19:34.37 | StephenF | oh, so if I had one call to my asterix box on hold and then called the asterisk box again on another line? |
| 19:34.38 | soulfreshner | but not with my ip phone |
| 19:34.51 | ManxPower | StephenF: are you calling the asterisk box using IAX2? |
| 19:34.59 | ManxPower | soulfreshner: then you have a DTMF problem. |
| 19:35.02 | StephenF | no, sip softphone |
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| 19:35.16 | ManxPower | StephenF: what part of "this applies to IAX2" do you not understand? |
| 19:35.24 | StephenF | I understand that |
| 19:35.36 | StephenF | im just trying to understand what it means |
| 19:35.46 | StephenF | i already have figured it doesnt apply to me |
| 19:35.50 | ManxPower | Asterisk box <-> IAX2 <-> Asterisk box. <-- you can enable trunking in this setup if you want to save bandwidth |
| 19:36.11 | StephenF | right ok, thats what I said earlier: ohh ok. So like two asterisk boxes talking |
| 19:36.11 | fiddur | Hi. I'm setting up several lines from the same sip provider in asterisk 1.4. I first added them in users.conf with two templates, to get incoming calls in separate context based on dialled number. But I can't find any way to define in users.conf another extension for the incoming call, so all goes to 's' in that context. Then I tried adding them in sip.conf instead, using register statements for them, but then I don't see how to get them into separ |
| 19:36.12 | fiddur | ate contexts (less than adding that in the dialplan for those numbers)... I guess my question is, how would YOU (masters of the known universe?) do it - and is there a way to define extension in users.conf for a sip provider? |
| 19:36.29 | soulfreshner | ManxPower: how would I fix a dtmf problem? |
| 19:36.33 | ManxPower | Now the IDIOTS in the SIP world call ANY kind of connection a "trunk". It's not a trunk is any sense of the word. |
| 19:36.46 | StephenF | what about Asterisk Box <-> Provider |
| 19:36.51 | ManxPower | soulfreshner: you would set the DTMF mode on your phone and the dtmf mode for that sip.conf [section] to be the same. |
| 19:37.04 | [TK]D-Fender | StephenF: same thing |
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| 19:37.17 | StephenF | ok, so i could not use Iax2 trunking to my provider |
| 19:37.18 | ManxPower | StephenF: "provider" not valid. SIP provider? IAX2 provider? MGCP provider? SCCP provider? H323 provider? T-1 provider? |
| 19:37.29 | [TK]D-Fender | StephenF: IAX2 is a protocol. Any device that speaks it should be able to trunk multiple channels over it |
| 19:37.33 | StephenF | which means i would not be getting the bandwith savings |
| 19:37.45 | ManxPower | [TK]D-Fender: well, except for every non-Asterisk device. |
| 19:37.50 | StephenF | sorry Asterisk Box <-> IAX2 <-> Provider |
| 19:37.52 | soulfreshner | ManxPower: it should be fine as log as it's the same? no matter which protocol I choose? |
| 19:38.01 | [TK]D-Fender | ManxPower: No, they SHOULD support it as well. |
| 19:38.15 | [TK]D-Fender | ManxPower: I meant every word :) |
| 19:38.24 | ManxPower | StephenF: how often will you be having more than 1 call at the same time to the same provider? Also the provider would have to configure your IAX2 account for trunking. |
| 19:38.31 | [TK]D-Fender | The world is just a very disappointing place |
| 19:38.39 | StephenF | lol |
| 19:38.43 | ManxPower | [TK]D-Fender: The IAX2 does not support trunking, ATACOM IAX2 phone does not support trunking AFIK |
| 19:38.52 | ManxPower | .e.r.. |
| 19:38.55 | ManxPower | IAX2 == IAXy |
| 19:39.08 | [TK]D-Fender | ManxPower: doesn't != shouldn't |
| 19:39.10 | StephenF | ManxPower: I might have one call on hold while I place a second outgoing call |
| 19:39.29 | ManxPower | StephenF: that was not my question. My question was "How often" |
| 19:39.38 | StephenF | ManxPower: rarely |
| 19:39.40 | ManxPower | It does not really matter. You know what you need to know. |
| 19:39.51 | StephenF | OK one last question. |
| 19:39.58 | ManxPower | StephenF: I already told you using trunking with only 1 call uses more bandwidth than not using trunking at all |
| 19:40.16 | StephenF | is trunking REQUIRED for multiple calls to the same provider, or does it just save bandwith |
| 19:40.29 | StephenF | Right so using it would hurt me more than it would help |
| 19:40.56 | ManxPower | you do not need trunking to send more than one call. |
| 19:41.03 | ManxPower | only if you want to save some bandwidth |
| 19:41.09 | StephenF | Gotcha ;) |
| 19:41.30 | ManxPower | Now, both sides must be set the same. trunking or no trunking. Calls won't work if only one side is set. |
| 19:41.48 | StephenF | ahh, so I have to make sure my provider is not using truking on my connection |
| 19:42.04 | ManxPower | StephenF: they almost never do unless you ask for it. |
| 19:42.10 | StephenF | ok |
| 19:42.17 | ManxPower | I don't use IAX2 at all anymore. |
| 19:42.20 | ManxPower | SIP all the way |
| 19:42.22 | StephenF | really? |
| 19:42.41 | StephenF | It was my impression that IAX2 was the better way to go for home users. Less fuss at the NAT Router |
| 19:43.05 | ManxPower | StephenF: the people that are under that impression don't understand SIP, NAT or networking. |
| 19:43.16 | russellb | SIP is harder to use with NAT, period |
| 19:43.17 | StephenF | lol ok then |
| 19:43.21 | russellb | by design. |
| 19:43.30 | russellb | IAX2 works without effort in those situations |
| 19:43.32 | ManxPower | russellb: I stand by my statement. |
| 19:43.44 | russellb | IAX2 had some implementation issues in older versions of asterisk when used under higher loads |
| 19:43.47 | russellb | those have all been resolved |
| 19:43.53 | ManxPower | russellb: you still have to port forward if you want to get incoming calls from the internet to your asterisk box, regardless of protocol |
| 19:44.16 | StephenF | IAX2 is only one port, SIP is many is that the only difference as far as router config? |
| 19:44.53 | [TK]D-Fender | Yes, SIP is harder to use with NAT. No argument. However once you're done spending the 5 minutes to set it up properly you cease to care. |
| 19:46.01 | ManxPower | With IAX2 you port forward 4569 in your NAT router. With SIP you forward port 5060 and whatever ports you set in /etc/asterisk/rtp.conf. You add localnet= and externip= and canreinvite=no in sip.conf. Then you are done! |
| 19:46.16 | soulfreshner | my phone seems to work fine for dialing numbers, but the ivr doesn't register the keypresses |
| 19:46.30 | ManxPower | Yeah, SIP is just SO much harder to use with NAT. I can't imagine how anyone gets it working! |
| 19:46.32 | [TK]D-Fender | soulfreshner: Set your dtmfmode properly |
| 19:46.36 | soulfreshner | and I've tried all the available dtmf modes on my phone :( |
| 19:47.25 | ManxPower | It's so easy a caveman could do it! |
| 19:47.33 | soulfreshner | tried rfc2543, rfc3261 and info - both on my phone and in sip.conf |
| 19:47.45 | [TK]D-Fender | soulfreshner: what phone? |
| 19:47.54 | soulfreshner | atcom at530 |
| 19:47.54 | ManxPower | soulfreshner: rfc3261 is not a valid DTMF mode in Asterisk |
| 19:48.07 | [TK]D-Fender | soulfreshner: its probably so stupid as to use "inband" |
| 19:48.11 | StephenF | lol |
| 19:48.21 | [TK]D-Fender | ATCOM = garbage |
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| 19:48.30 | StephenF | ManxPower: So why do you prefer SIP over IAX2? |
| 19:48.49 | soulfreshner | inband? |
| 19:48.55 | ManxPower | If your phone supports SRV records you can even have the phone connect to the right IP (internal ip when on the internal LAN, external IP when not on the local LAN) |
| 19:49.10 | [TK]D-Fender | StephenF: By & large, only * cares about IAX2, IAX2 has been a known culprit for audio quality issues where switching to SIP with the same provider comes out fine, etc |
| 19:49.14 | ManxPower | StephenF: for the exact reason russelb said earlier. "(2:43:44 PM) russellb: IAX2 had some implementation issues in older versions of asterisk when used under higher loads" |
| 19:49.26 | ManxPower | we have no reason to switch back to iax2 at this point |
| 19:49.38 | StephenF | I gotcha |
| 19:49.53 | ManxPower | granted, we had dropped calls with only ONE iax2 call. |
| 19:49.59 | [TK]D-Fender | StephenF: SIP can easily be proxied, is interoperable with other hardware, and helps Asterisk fulfill the most important property a solution I implement should have. |
| 19:50.03 | ManxPower | But my experience with IAX2 seems to be uncommon |
| 19:50.31 | StephenF | interesting |
| 19:50.35 | soulfreshner | sorted - i was confusing dtmf mode and dtmf protocol - setting to sip_info worked |
| 19:50.47 | soulfreshner | thanks |
| 19:50.51 | ManxPower | soulfreshner: rfc2833 is preferred if it works for you. |
| 19:51.28 | ManxPower | if rfc 2833 does not work for you, just use whatever one does work for you. |
| 19:51.30 | soulfreshner | ManxPower: that seems to work too |
| 19:52.22 | soulfreshner | ManxPower: I'll use that then - only the default one (DTMF_RELAY) doesn't seem to work... for whatever reason |
| 19:52.38 | soulfreshner | strange it should be the default... |
| 19:53.12 | TheSov | i guess ill try again later |
| 19:53.16 | TheSov | later all |
| 19:53.43 | StephenF | Well thanks for all the help [TK]D-Fender and ManxPower, finally I can move forward with this beast |
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| 20:04.37 | lmadsen | ummm.... I can't load asterisk-addons modules when DONT_OPTIMIZE is enabled in the main asterisk source? |
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| 20:04.55 | samtc | hi |
| 20:05.01 | lmadsen | once I enable that flag in asterisk, and compile/install, then my asterisk-addons modules won't load because it says they haven't been built with the same compile time options |
| 20:05.40 | samtc | anyone known which audio format is used on a mitel system ? |
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| 20:15.13 | ManxPower | lmadsen: I think the same happens with DEBUG_THREADS. I think I saw a post about it on the mailinglist today, but that was before my coffee so I'm not sure. |
| 20:15.24 | lmadsen | oh fun |
| 20:15.25 | lmadsen | thx |
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| 20:18.40 | lmadsen | oh interesting... the install / compile order matters |
| 20:19.08 | lmadsen | rm -f /usr/lib/asterisk/modules/* ; cd /usr/src/asterisk ; make install ; cd ../asterisk-addons ; ./configure ; make install |
| 20:19.12 | lmadsen | that seems to work |
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| 20:25.54 | [TK]D-Fender | alrighty, check-out time... later all |
| 20:28.15 | jaytee | so you have to do make install on * before you do make install on the add-ons? |
| 20:30.25 | jaytee | that's the order I use from the how-to for installing * on centos anyways. |
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| 20:53.06 | Siya | re |
| 20:53.30 | Siya | Host 'X.X.X.X' does not implement 'NOTIFY' |
| 20:53.48 | Siya | Anyone with suggestions for an ITSP that sends that my way when registering? |
| 20:54.18 | Siya | And no I do not have a mailbox configured for the it (harhar) |
| 20:55.16 | ManxPower | Siya: is Host x.x.x.x your host or their hose |
| 20:55.27 | [TK]D-Fender | Yup.. he's hosed :) |
| 20:55.32 | Siya | ip address of my ITSP |
| 20:55.45 | Siya | hiya [TK]D-Fender |
| 20:55.59 | Siya | ManxPower: so remote side |
| 20:56.15 | ManxPower | you may have to put up with it mailbox= is the only things that sends notifies that I know of other than things like BLF |
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| 20:57.31 | Siya | hmmm |
| 20:58.06 | ManxPower | Siya: if it bothers you just edit the source code and comment out that printf |
| 20:58.17 | Siya | ManxPower: lol |
| 20:58.51 | Siya | well I'm troubleshooting why after a sip reload I can receive calls but then say 30 mins later I can't |
| 20:59.05 | Siya | * thinks the registration is fine |
| 20:59.10 | Siya | my ITSP doesn't |
| 20:59.18 | Siya | starts another debug |
| 20:59.25 | ManxPower | Siya: any nat involved? |
| 21:00.19 | Siya | Sadly yes |
| 21:00.35 | ManxPower | then you should set qualify=yes or better yet, qualify=10000 |
| 21:00.40 | Siya | my ISP will charge me 10 GBP per month! for a small IP range |
| 21:00.46 | ManxPower | that will cause enough traffic to keep most NAT translations open |
| 21:01.02 | Siya | my VPS host will charge me 1,- per year per address |
| 21:01.19 | Siya | I set qualify to 120, still no play |
| 21:01.20 | [TK]D-Fender | Here's an idea : Stop talk, start SHOWING <- |
| 21:01.36 | Siya | have been debugging my cisco router and nat states are fine |
| 21:01.55 | tvirus | In cdr.conf, I'm using mysql as my backend. I'm wondering where I can find what options I can set for logging in mysql, I can't seem to find a list of what's available. |
| 21:02.00 | ManxPower | Siya: Comcast requires a BUSINESS account ($100+/month) to do public IPs, BellSouth/ATT charges $14/month for their low end accounts for a static IP. |
| 21:02.21 | Siya | ManxPower: EEK, I must be spoilt |
| 21:04.46 | Siya | lol my * server announces to my ITSP what my internal VM number is and that no messages are waiting |
| 21:05.01 | Siya | is this due to peer=friend or the likes? |
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| 21:05.22 | [TK]D-Fender | Siya: No |
| 21:05.30 | [TK]D-Fender | Siya: PASTEBIN <--------- |
| 21:05.40 | Siya | ok ok |
| 21:05.42 | ManxPower | Siya: no, that is a mailbox= line. |
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| 21:05.49 | Siya | weird |
| 21:05.52 | Siya | anyway |
| 21:06.08 | Siya | file: pastebin |
| 21:07.30 | Siya | bugger, I'm using screen... |
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| 21:43.12 | BlargMaN00 | hello?? anyone alive in here?? |
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| 21:44.42 | fudpucker1 | i am having an issue with zaptel where it is grabbing a hold of /dev/rtc and not letting go of it unless i stop zaptel. i am unable to set the hardware clock when it is like this. anyone else have this issue? |
| 21:49.42 | Siya | changed nat to never and goes to watch some more telly |
| 21:50.01 | Siya | I recon it may be due to my clever dsl router and asterisk trying to do nat as well |
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| 21:54.28 | EI5GTB | evening guys |
| 21:54.37 | EI5GTB | got my sip over nat prob sorted today |
| 21:54.47 | EI5GTB | just fotterd for a while and suddenly i heard noise! |
| 21:55.21 | EI5GTB | iv noticed a problem tho, i can dial extensions and hear "Playback"s ok, but when i dial another softphne i get silence |
| 21:55.34 | EI5GTB | no audio seems to pas |
| 21:55.41 | EI5GTB | no errors appear on the cli |
| 21:55.55 | EI5GTB | im talking 2 phones on the internal network |
| 22:00.11 | EI5GTB | and when i put a call on hold the other party hears the music, but not my voice when i un hold them, and vice versa |
| 22:00.44 | lmadsen | EI5GTB: you have setup localnet= and externip= correctly in sip.conf? |
| 22:01.06 | EI5GTB | i have an externhost set |
| 22:01.12 | EI5GTB | no externip as im on a dynamic ip |
| 22:01.42 | lmadsen | you also need localnet= setup to tell asterisk what IP host range to *not* translate to the hostname |
| 22:02.24 | EI5GTB | yea, i have localnet=192.168.0.0/24 |
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| 22:05.09 | EI5GTB | its strange (to me) how it can hear sounds generated by asterisk, but not my client |
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| 22:06.08 | dmhardison | Is there a dial plan I can craft that would basically make the spa-1001/3000 autodial as someone punches in the buttons? |
| 22:11.06 | nr4q | heartburn is the worst |
| 22:11.23 | BlargMaN00 | Hello all.... I know this is an age old question, but has there been any progress with the ability for shared extensions?? (not SLA) |
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| 22:44.42 | rift0r | hi, suddenly since a reboot I am having audio delay issues with asterisjk |
| 22:44.49 | rift0r | i haven't had any firewall changes or kernel changes |
| 22:44.56 | rift0r | i can call someone from zoiper, and it takes sometimes 10 secs for them to hear me |
| 22:45.01 | rift0r | and it seems intermittent... sometimes it goes right thru, other times there is a delay |
| 22:45.07 | rift0r | I am connected to asterisk via IAX2 and zoiper, and my calls are going out via SIP to viatalk |
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| 22:45.22 | rift0r | anyone have any ideas off of the top of their head on what may be wrong? |
| 22:47.39 | rift0r | bueler??? |
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| 23:43.53 | x86 | i know it's possible to do this, but I forgot how to make one of the line buttons on my Polycom IP601 into a speed-dial (another local SIP exten)? |
| 23:44.24 | rift0r | Anyone here use viatalk? |
| 23:44.41 | rift0r | i am getting a nasty delay when i use them |
| 23:44.46 | rift0r | but callcentric I get no delay |
| 23:45.01 | rift0r | I haven't used callcentric that much so I am not sure how reliable they are, but viatalk sucks so far after a week |
| 23:45.16 | drmessano | Have you called their tech support? |
| 23:45.33 | rift0r | no, but i've been googling and apparently this is a common issue with viatalk |
| 23:45.37 | nix8n82 | I hate viatalk I think they suck as well |
| 23:46.03 | rift0r | nix8n82 who do you use? |
| 23:46.06 | mchou | looks like viatalk is being ripped a new one here :) |
| 23:46.07 | rift0r | anyone have any recs? |
| 23:46.14 | jjshoe | I use voicepulse and teliax without issue |
| 23:46.17 | rift0r | i thought it was my setup |
| 23:46.18 | nix8n82 | teliax at the moment |
| 23:46.23 | rift0r | tried callcentric and it works fine |
| 23:46.38 | rift0r | callcentric would be $26 for unlimited in/out for med |
| 23:46.39 | rift0r | me |
| 23:46.42 | rift0r | vt was $22.95 |
| 23:46.46 | drmessano | Nothing like the old "Did you call for support? No, google said they suck good enough for me" |
| 23:46.53 | rift0r | i did call support |
| 23:46.56 | rift0r | 14 people ahead of me |
| 23:46.56 | rift0r | :P |
| 23:46.59 | rift0r | didnt want to wait |
| 23:47.01 | rift0r | so i googled :) |
| 23:47.04 | nix8n82 | the extra 3.05 would be probably be worth it |
| 23:47.11 | rift0r | yeah that's what I am thinking nix8n82 |
| 23:47.20 | rift0r | luckily they have a 30 day money back guarantee |
| 23:47.27 | mchou | drmessano: you only get one change to make one impression in telecom biz |
| 23:47.31 | rift0r | so I can get that first month back since i've only been using for a weerk |
| 23:47.31 | rift0r | week |
| 23:47.44 | mchou | chance* |
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| 23:48.47 | mchou | rift0r: when you say delay is it in the signalling or voice? |
| 23:49.15 | rift0r | voice |
| 23:49.26 | rift0r | wts, teliax doesn't have rates to US? |
| 23:49.31 | rift0r | im looking at their site |
| 23:49.35 | drmessano | How do you know it's a delay? |
| 23:49.53 | rift0r | cause i call people and they don't hear me and I don't hear them for the first 5 secs |
| 23:49.55 | mchou | be interesting to do an echo test |
| 23:50.03 | rift0r | same when they call me |
| 23:50.09 | rift0r | they say hello 4 times before I hear them |
| 23:50.16 | mchou | that's bad |
| 23:50.26 | drmessano | Do you hear the 4 "hello"s? |
| 23:50.42 | mchou | rift0r: can you try an echo test? |
| 23:50.50 | rift0r | drfreeze no |
| 23:50.53 | rift0r | i don't hear anything |
| 23:50.57 | rift0r | till about the 5th hello |
| 23:50.58 | rift0r | same on their side |
| 23:51.03 | rift0r | they don't hear me till about the 5th hello |
| 23:51.06 | drmessano | So it's not a delay |
| 23:51.10 | rift0r | mchou haven'tr tried an echo test |
| 23:51.31 | rift0r | mchou i don't even want to bother, i switched to callcentric really quick and no issues |
| 23:51.40 | rift0r | too much hassle, if this works by just switching providers |
| 23:51.54 | mchou | rift0r: yeah |
| 23:51.58 | drmessano | Sounds to me like an issue with setting up the RTP streams |
| 23:52.01 | rift0r | well i guess it isn't a delay technically, it is no audio at all |
| 23:52.09 | rift0r | drmessano I have rtp open |
| 23:52.15 | rift0r | and specified for the ports i open |
| 23:52.16 | drmessano | duh |
| 23:52.23 | drmessano | I didnt say it wasnt |
| 23:52.34 | rift0r | well oh well, f*ck viatalk |
| 23:52.35 | rift0r | heh |
| 23:52.54 | rift0r | jjshoe you like voicepulse? |
| 23:52.59 | rift0r | they are $25 /mo i see |
| 23:53.12 | drmessano | You probably have canreinvite=no, or srvlookup disabled |
| 23:53.25 | drmessano | So the audio path isn't being set up, times out, fails over to default |
| 23:54.16 | rift0r | drmessano i don't have either listed for their trunk |
| 23:54.17 | jameswf-home | I feel obligated to share this : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-NOZU2iPA8 |
| 23:54.34 | rift0r | drmessano i used the recommended asterisk settings they provided |
| 23:55.14 | drmessano | Have you tried with an ATA or phone to see if there's the same problem? |
| 23:56.12 | jjshoe | rift0r yup. |
| 23:56.17 | jaytee | jameswf-home, you needn't feel obligated in the future |
| 23:56.39 | jameswf-home | heh |
| 23:56.43 | *** join/#asterisk coppice (n=chatzill@177.162.17.210.dyn.pacific.net.hk) |
| 23:57.33 | rift0r | wtf to sign up for voicepulse it makes me select an ATA |
| 23:57.36 | rift0r | and give a serial/mac |
| 23:57.39 | rift0r | for a byod |
| 23:57.52 | rift0r | geh |
| 23:57.55 | *** join/#asterisk ftp3 (n=none@pool-71-117-212-7.ptldor.fios.verizon.net) |
| 23:58.19 | mchou | lol |
| 23:58.23 | mchou | that's bad |
| 23:58.44 | rift0r | hey you teliax users, am I just blind or do they not support calls to the US? |
| 23:58.46 | rift0r | i don't see any rates |
| 23:59.24 | mchou | rift0r: I'm still trying to figure out why you like the high $$ prooviders :) |
| 23:59.34 | mchou | providers* |
| 23:59.40 | drmessano | I really hate windows users that pick up asterisk and can't leave the "plug and play, do it for me" attitude behind |
| 23:59.41 | drmessano | Oh well |
| 23:59.53 | *** join/#asterisk `paul (n=paul@125.252.70.126) |
| 23:59.55 | rift0r | mchou recommend someone that has unlim and is cheap and good |
