| 00:00.55 | jblack | Awesome. Luisiana has is returning to exactly the same position it was in before Katrina. A Katrina storm will take it right back out. |
| 00:01.28 | [TK]D-Fender | "New Orleans is sinking and I don't wanna swim" |
| 00:02.19 | jblack | wonders how to profit from this |
| 00:03.48 | TJNII | thinks Cheney, Halliburton, and Iraq sets a good example of how to profit off a disaster. |
| 00:04.04 | ManxPower | New Orleans has been sinking for a hundred years. |
| 00:04.55 | ManxPower | <-- in New Orleans for the next week or so |
| 00:06.20 | jaytee | ManxPower, [TK]D-Fender, do you think I could handle the Asterisk Advanced class? |
| 00:06.30 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: No clue |
| 00:06.46 | ManxPower | jaytee: How long have you been using Asterisk? |
| 00:07.11 | jaytee | about 18 months |
| 00:07.18 | ManxPower | Since I don't know exactly what you are expected to know before taking the Asterisk Advanced Class..... |
| 00:07.48 | ManxPower | ~manxpower |
| 00:07.49 | jbot | extra, extra, read all about it, manxpower is NOT an employee of Digium. He is looking for a training/teaching job in networking and/or Asterisk. Currently doing Asterisk and WAN consulting. Contact: eric@fnords.org |
| 00:08.10 | jaytee | the description kind of matches where I feel I'm at in experience level |
| 00:08.27 | Qwell | jaytee: then go |
| 00:09.38 | jaytee | although I'm a little weak in stuff like Asterisk realtime and I've only messed with the Asterisk GUI in testing, I've already got Asterisk working with PRI to my telco and to a Nortel pbx with 4 digit dial between the 2 pbxs. |
| 00:10.23 | Qwell | I doubt an advanced Asterisk course is going to get into GUI stuff |
| 00:10.25 | jaytee | I've still got gaps to fill in before I sign up, like mastering using expressions and reviewing some of the basics. |
| 00:11.10 | jaytee | they talk about some things I've already got up and running as well as more advanced topics so I'm thinking I'd benefit more from it than the Bootcamp class. |
| 00:11.30 | jaytee | they must have just started offering it in the last six months or so. |
| 00:12.25 | jaytee | it'd get me out of town for a week on the company dime even if it's just to Huntsville |
| 00:12.53 | jaytee | not that Huntsville is bad but it ain't Vegas :-) |
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| 00:25.23 | robba | any mISDN gurus in here? |
| 00:31.46 | TJNII | debates buying hard drives...... |
| 00:32.01 | TJNII | For another $100 I can have 2.19Tb |
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| 00:37.43 | heedly | TJNII: where? |
| 00:40.13 | Prayer | " Got SIP response 482 "Loop Detected" back from " I am running 2 lines to FWD, calling on one and supposed to be ringing on the 2nd line. I have added many suggestions to [fwd4] & [fwd] in sip.conf. I'll put it up in pastebin |
| 00:40.44 | ManxPower | Prayer: both numbers terminate on the same box. Asterisk realizes the call should be local but is not. |
| 00:42.41 | TJNII | heedly: That number is what a raid 5 of the two drives I have and the two drives I want would be. |
| 00:42.46 | Prayer | How to make it work like it used to be able to call one line from the other without this looping error. |
| 00:42.57 | heedly | ic |
| 00:45.35 | Prayer | Here is the portion from sip.conf http://pastebin.com/m39ba7074 |
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| 00:52.55 | florz | Prayer: that's a bug in asterisk, there is a bunch of "fixes" in the bug tracker - that all don't really work (it's asterisk, after all), but at least may help with particular scenarios ... |
| 00:54.34 | Prayer | I USED to be able to call on one line to the other and it rang and I had two way conversations with myself. (I got bored in 3 seconds and always hung up) At least I knew sound quality, delay, etc. |
| 00:55.59 | florz | well, that totally may be - I'd assume that FWD has changed something |
| 00:56.17 | jblack | They changed the pricing for the least. |
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| 00:58.32 | hsv-al | Hello fellow internet addicts, are we all enjoying another long & glorious weekend of IRC+Internet Addiction(IIA). Enjoy it while you can, because when Monday arrives, its back to the mindless loop of stale/burnt coffee, email, staring at monitors, sitting at our desks, getting hunchbacks....drooling............Being plugged into the matrix. . . . MuST HaVe BRaiNS |
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| 00:59.41 | Qwell | newb |
| 00:59.46 | robba | lol |
| 00:59.59 | hsv-al | heh |
| 01:01.57 | hsv-al | my weekend is actually horrid, i rarely get sick |
| 01:02.09 | hsv-al | like two times a year, and im on some crazy high dose of amoxicylin, alergies/sinus bs |
| 01:02.37 | Prayer | If only I had an emplyer to pay me to do that, hsv-al. But first I need a tech job without 80 mile commute. |
| 01:02.56 | hsv-al | prayer, my job is sort of passive, my current one |
| 01:03.07 | hsv-al | i just wait for snmp traps, and the community strings on networking equipment, and syslogs |
| 01:03.13 | Prayer | But you still get to make $$. |
| 01:03.15 | hsv-al | to alert me, other then that......its facebook/youtube all day |
| 01:03.16 | hsv-al | heh |
| 01:04.25 | jblack | there's your mistake. |
| 01:04.31 | jblack | You should be studying something. |
| 01:05.29 | hsv-al | i know, ...... |
| 01:05.36 | hsv-al | i probably would have my ccie security by now |
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| 01:12.32 | jaytee | time well spent today means more chance for success and spending more time on a yacht later. |
| 01:13.02 | jaytee | close the browser and crack a book |
| 01:14.17 | Prayer | ManxPower, are you still around? Any clues as to how it used to work and now NOT.? |
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| 01:44.47 | CrashSys | If I use the dial command to dial a local@priority@context in a macro, does the ${ARGx} values pass inherited to the local channel? Or do I need to set new variables in the macro to inherit to the local channel? |
| 01:46.28 | mchou | ${ARGx} are channel variables :) |
| 01:46.54 | CrashSys | Yes, and i'd like those to pass to the local channel from a dial command issued in a macro |
| 01:46.58 | CrashSys | and they dont seem to be |
| 01:47.23 | mchou | and AFAIR channel variables have channel scope, if you will |
| 01:47.33 | mchou | AFAIK* |
| 01:48.30 | robba | Well i'm out of ideas |
| 01:48.42 | robba | rollin back to centos 4.4 |
| 01:48.56 | robba | hopefully mISDN works in that |
| 01:49.16 | mchou | this is really pissing me off |
| 01:49.47 | mchou | I cant figure out how to get past grandcentral's IVR programmatically |
| 01:49.50 | robba | pops in the CentOS Single Server CD |
| 01:50.24 | mchou | it's really chapping my hide |
| 01:50.36 | CrashSys | CentOS... there's yer problem... |
| 01:51.18 | robba | raises eye brow |
| 01:51.50 | robba | CrashSys: How So? |
| 01:52.40 | CrashSys | Just seems to be more "quirks" for lack of a better way to explain it... although, I have seen ZTDUMMY drop almost 1% in accuracy by just using Cent/Fedora/RedHat vs SuSE/Slack/Gentoo/Debian |
| 01:53.07 | CrashSys | zttest would return 99.8 on most of the systems, and the redhat family around be 99.1-ish |
| 01:53.32 | CrashSys | and that was after the kernel was recompiled with server preemption |
| 01:54.01 | robba | well i was using 5.2 and apparently mISDN only likes 2.6.15 kernels |
| 01:54.22 | robba | seein as im not a full linux buff i decided to do it the easy way |
| 01:55.03 | CrashSys | SuSE is another good choice for a fairly simplified Linux if you are interested in alternatives... |
| 01:55.11 | hsv-al | ok, this just woke me up |
| 01:55.15 | hsv-al | got this in an email, weird http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZVq2Gm_Zjk |
| 01:55.21 | hsv-al | deja vu |
| 01:55.48 | robba | Yeah i have seen SuSE but never used it |
| 01:56.08 | robba | but CentOS is all i have on hand |
| 01:56.23 | robba | so gotta try and make do |
| 01:56.41 | CrashSys | well for light load it shouldn't matter |
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| 01:57.45 | robba | 30 exts with 2 BRI (4 Channels) and one SIP, its not going to be strained |
| 01:58.22 | robba | i actually think the server maybe a little over kill |
| 01:59.18 | robba | but as i said gotta make do with what i have |
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| 02:23.21 | ChrisN | ~thebook |
| 02:23.22 | jbot | Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com |
| 02:27.56 | jblack | wonders when it became acceptable to ignore email |
| 02:29.43 | drmessano | 6 years ago |
| 02:29.44 | ManxPower | jblack: About 1998 |
| 02:29.50 | ManxPower | looks at dr |
| 02:30.08 | drmessano | 1998 for home users, 2002 for corporate |
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| 02:31.31 | knarfly | I have fedora 9 with asterisk 1.4,21.2 but the moh won't play |
| 02:32.29 | ManxPower | knarfly: what format are the files in? |
| 02:33.42 | knarfly | wav the generic fpm files that asterisk installed |
| 02:34.26 | ManxPower | odd |
| 02:34.32 | ManxPower | so it's just silent? |
| 02:35.21 | ManxPower | Personally I think silent MoH is an improvement, not a bug 8-) |
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| 02:35.29 | knarfly | 8-) |
| 02:35.53 | knarfly | do i need ztdummy to have moh |
| 02:36.06 | jaytee | yes |
| 02:36.43 | knarfly | I'm new to Linux...how do I check to see what kernel mods are loaded |
| 02:36.57 | ManxPower | lsmod |
| 02:36.58 | jaytee | lsmod |
| 02:37.04 | knarfly | FreeBSD uses kldstat |
| 02:37.16 | ManxPower | You do NOT need ANY kernel modules loaded for MoH in Asterisk. |
| 02:37.45 | ManxPower | In fact, if you have ztdummy loaded on a system that has a problem with ztdummy, it could cause audio issues, including silent MoH |
| 02:37.46 | jaytee | you don't need ztdummy? |
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| 02:37.59 | ManxPower | jaytee: no, you don't need ztdummy |
| 02:38.16 | ManxPower | You never have needed ztdummy for MoH |
| 02:38.31 | jaytee | ok |
| 02:38.56 | jaytee | what about MeetMe? if you don't have any other card for zaptel timing? |
| 02:38.56 | knarfly | the CLI shows that music on hold has started but the phone is silent |
| 02:39.15 | knarfly | yes ztdummy is needed for conference calls |
| 02:39.19 | ManxPower | knarfly: do you have ztdummy loaded? |
| 02:39.23 | jaytee | that's what I thought |
| 02:39.35 | defaultro | good evening folks. I would like to have my own simple voip so I can get rid of my existing comcast landline. What is the best route that I can do? Also if possible, I was hoping that I can follow a solution where I don't pay any monthly or maybe really cheap cost. Can anyone help me please? |
| 02:39.41 | ManxPower | jaytee: MeetMe requires zaptel for audio mixing and for timing. MoH does not require it. |
| 02:39.42 | knarfly | ManxPower: no there doesn't seem to be any zaptel stuff loaded |
| 02:39.58 | ManxPower | knarfly: OK. |
| 02:40.00 | jaytee | ManxPower, thanks |
| 02:40.09 | ManxPower | knarfly: does all other audio work? |
| 02:40.24 | defaultro | the one thing I found this afternoon is Siptura SPA3000, something like that |
| 02:40.24 | ManxPower | (not phone-to-phone, but things like IVR Playback on the Asterisk server? |
| 02:40.26 | knarfly | if you mean on the phone...yes |
| 02:40.38 | ManxPower | yes, when calling from the phone |
| 02:41.41 | knarfly | yes the sound is working on the phone just fine...i just checked comedian mail |
| 02:41.44 | defaultro | so where should I start? |
| 02:42.06 | knarfly | defaultro: do you have asterisk running yet |
| 02:42.29 | defaultro | no, I don't have asterisk and neither the card. I am still confuse of all the articles I have read |
| 02:42.46 | defaultro | some people say to not build a box and just buy an unlocked ATA |
| 02:42.50 | knarfly | do you have an IP phone or other VOIP device |
| 02:42.55 | defaultro | nop |
| 02:42.57 | drmessano | lol |
| 02:43.05 | defaultro | I want to use my existing analog phone |
| 02:43.12 | drmessano | An unlocked ATA isn't going to get you far without a PBX |
| 02:43.38 | defaultro | they say to buy ATA and register to like les.net |
| 02:43.38 | drmessano | Thats like saying "I want to set up a website.. Someone said to just get a browser" |
| 02:43.52 | knarfly | well you do need something and you can hookup to a VOIP provider or use and asterisk box it's your choice |
| 02:43.57 | defaultro | i remember, seeing gizmo on the forum too |
| 02:44.13 | defaultro | so if asterisk, that means, it's in my house |
| 02:44.17 | drmessano | Why dont you just download Skype and be done with it |
| 02:44.18 | defaultro | and I don't have to pay any correct? |
| 02:44.24 | ManxPower | Linksys/SIPura are some of the best price/performance devices out there for VoIP |
| 02:44.30 | defaultro | ok |
| 02:44.39 | defaultro | so I need Linksys/SIPura and asterisk |
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| 02:44.55 | defaultro | will that allow me to call a landline? |
| 02:44.56 | drmessano | ~book |
| 02:44.57 | jbot | Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com, or see ~buybook |
| 02:44.58 | ManxPower | defaultro: If you want to call regular telephones you will have to pay something to someone |
| 02:44.59 | knarfly | yes or you can host it and there is this new stuff called instances that Amazon sponsors...it's basically a hosted app |
| 02:45.18 | defaultro | ah, ManxPower |
| 02:45.24 | ManxPower | defaultro: no, you don't need Asterisk at all. |
| 02:45.40 | jblack | defaultro: Or get a client in which you do some work for them for cheap or free, and "tick" off of them. ;) |
| 02:45.44 | ManxPower | You would connect the ATA to your internet, configure it to route calls thru your service provider (ITSP). |
| 02:45.46 | knarfly | defaultro: yes, ehat ManxPower said...nothing is free if you want to teminate to PSTN lines which is probably what you want |
| 02:46.00 | ManxPower | You would only need Asterisk if you want to do cool stuff like IVRs, your own voicemail, multiple extensions, etc. |
| 02:46.14 | defaultro | so would that mean that if i start doing the asterisk route, we will have to pay a fee everytime my wife calls her friend even if it's just .4 miles? |
| 02:46.27 | knarfly | no |
| 02:46.32 | ManxPower | Just remember Asterisk is 100x more complicated than just an ATA with an ITSP |
| 02:46.36 | jblack | defaultro: You pay a fee now to your local phone ocmpany. |
| 02:46.45 | defaultro | yes, $45 something |
| 02:46.47 | defaultro | I hate it |
| 02:46.58 | defaultro | and I want to save |
| 02:47.01 | ManxPower | defaultro: that's about the going rate for unlimited calling. |
| 02:47.08 | defaultro | yep |
| 02:47.09 | jblack | defaultro: You can use that local phone company line by buying some new hardware. Or you can fire them entirely and go with voip, which should be much, much cheaper... |
| 02:47.10 | ManxPower | It all depends on how much calling you are doing. |
| 02:47.19 | jblack | unless your wife talks so much that you wish she was your ex-wife |
| 02:47.25 | defaultro | lol :D |
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| 02:47.29 | knarfly | if you want to use a VOIP provider to call your firends you will pay about $0.02 per minute |
| 02:47.38 | defaultro | ah |
| 02:47.43 | defaultro | let me calculate |
| 02:47.44 | defaultro | brb |
| 02:47.52 | ManxPower | My boyfriend has an ATA with Vitelity for service. Costs are $1.50/month for a phone number + 2/cents/min usage (incoming and outgoing). His total bill per month is less than $10 typically. |
| 02:48.04 | jblack | defaultro: However... If they have high end internet there, you can consider putting a tiny box there and then do intra-astrisk dialing, thus costing nothing over the cost of hardware. ;) |
| 02:48.12 | knarfly | but if you have a PSTN line you can use asterisk to call them and it's free...you will still be paying for your PSTN line...which all of us do sooner or later |
| 02:48.21 | jblack | looks at manxpower much more carefully |
| 02:48.54 | jblack | Either I want my daughter to be just like you (but with a better personality), or I want my daughter to be nothing like you at all |
| 02:49.15 | ManxPower | jblack: you want your daughter to be nothing like me at all. |
| 02:49.15 | prg3 | For an IVR, all I really need is an Answer, followed by a Background, and some extens in the same context? |
| 02:49.16 | defaultro | looks like .02 is good |
| 02:49.26 | defaultro | who should I sign up with? |
| 02:49.30 | knarfly | jblack: I find it rare that there are two parties who talk that much that actually both use asterisk unless it's a business setup. |
| 02:49.34 | ManxPower | ~itsp-usa |
| 02:49.40 | defaultro | so all I really need now is the sipura and a voip provider correct? |
| 02:49.41 | jblack | ~itsp-us |
| 02:50.05 | ManxPower | defaultro: I use Vitelity, they are not as reliable as the local phone company, but for a VoIP company they are more reliable than most. |
| 02:50.15 | knarfly | everytime I try to get my friends interested in it, they loose interest once they find out the gotta build a computer with something besides Vista on it. |
| 02:50.34 | jblack | knarfly: Teliax is .02/min, callwithus is .0125/min. Most other providers range in between that. |
| 02:50.39 | defaultro | ok |
| 02:50.50 | defaultro | they use SIP right? |
| 02:50.57 | jblack | Most support both sip and iax. |
| 02:51.14 | defaultro | ok |
| 02:51.15 | knarfly | defaultro: you either got to pay for service or DITY |
| 02:51.22 | jblack | Providers that I know work are callwithus.com, teliax.com, voipstreet.com, diamondcard.us. |
| 02:51.24 | defaultro | yep, I am aware of that now |
| 02:51.34 | defaultro | jblack, those are really good? |
| 02:51.39 | knarfly | try splitinfinity.com as well |
| 02:51.39 | ManxPower | defaultro: Asterisk is not a PBX. It is a toolkit that helps you build a PBX. Unless you want to become a PBX administrator avoid Asterisk for what you need. |
| 02:51.58 | defaultro | nope, I just want the simplest now, to save money |
| 02:52.02 | jblack | defaultro: They're like snowflakes. Each has their own odd little quirks. |
| 02:52.07 | defaultro | ok |
| 02:52.10 | jblack | Simplist way? Get them both skype. |
| 02:52.13 | defaultro | which do you recommend though? |
| 02:52.26 | jblack | What are your three highest considerations? |
| 02:52.35 | defaultro | if skype, my wife would have to stay in the computer |
| 02:52.36 | knarfly | defaultro: yes again ManxPower is right on...unless you want to hack at it, your better off sticking with a simple setup or stay with the PSTN |
| 02:52.38 | defaultro | she doesn't like that |
| 02:52.45 | ManxPower | defaultro: cheap, easy, reliable. Pick two. |
| 02:52.53 | defaultro | cheap, easy |
| 02:52.54 | jblack | defaultro: Nah, not true. For $200, you can get wireless skype handsets from best buy |
| 02:53.07 | defaultro | oh ok |
| 02:53.21 | jblack | but yeah. cheap, easy, reliable. Pick two. Right now. |
| 02:53.33 | defaultro | i chose cheap and easy |
| 02:53.38 | jblack | callwithus |
| 02:53.49 | defaultro | what if cheap and reliable |
| 02:53.59 | ManxPower | defaultro: I won't recommend a carrier because if that carrier sucks for you you would blame me. I can only tell you what *I* use. That is Vitelity. |
| 02:54.11 | jblack | voipstreet |
| 02:54.13 | defaultro | ok |
| 02:54.26 | defaultro | yep, they have their own pros and cons |
| 02:54.40 | defaultro | i had vonage 2 years ago and there were minor drop outs |
| 02:54.44 | jblack | Yeah. feel free to tell me later you're pissed for listening to me. |
| 02:54.50 | defaultro | :) |
| 02:55.07 | jblack | if you want cheap and reliable.. again... |
| 02:55.08 | defaultro | my other friend is telling me to just get magicjack but did some research, it was horrible |
| 02:55.21 | jblack | You could look at running your own * server, and putting a dedicated IP phone in your friend's house. |
| 02:55.24 | defaultro | yeah, if cheap and reliable, what would it be |
| 02:55.30 | jblack | Like a batphone. She picks it up, and it calls your wife |
| 02:55.30 | defaultro | k |
| 02:55.40 | defaultro | oh, like hotline |
| 02:55.51 | jblack | Yeah, sure. No DIDs at all |
| 02:55.57 | defaultro | yep |
| 02:56.01 | ManxPower | Heck, Vitelity will even send the right address to the 911 service center if you dial 911 (IF YOU SET IT UP) |
| 02:56.06 | defaultro | ah |
| 02:56.10 | defaultro | that's cool ManxPower |
| 02:56.18 | jblack | Yeah, that's something those providers I didn't mention. Most of them don't have e911 |
| 02:56.36 | defaultro | hopefully, my security system will work too |
| 02:56.38 | Prayer | Start with pay as you go and find out how many minutes you use. Vitality.com, callcentri.com, callwithus.com, voicestick.com all have pay as you go. Probably can have monthly less than $10 for any of them. |
| 02:56.41 | ManxPower | IIRC the can send your callerid name too. |
| 02:56.42 | jblack | I think teliax may offer e911 |
| 02:57.11 | ManxPower | jblack: Teliax has a new sign up system that's a bitch to use. If it was not for that I'd be using Teliax (because I used them in the past) |
| 02:57.12 | defaultro | i'm searching it now. is there any fix monthly on top of the per minute? |
| 02:57.31 | ManxPower | defaultro: any monthly rate would be very low |
| 02:57.35 | jblack | yeah. I got in a ... discussion with them about their new site. They locked me on the old one. |
| 02:57.57 | ManxPower | You should not pay more than $5/month for a phone number. IF you don't need a phone number there usually isn't a monthly fee. |
| 02:57.58 | defaultro | so now, what is the recommended ATA I should buy? Model please |
| 02:58.08 | defaultro | cool |
| 02:58.16 | ManxPower | defaultro: Linksys or SIPura. |
| 02:58.30 | defaultro | what about the model number? |
| 02:58.30 | jblack | lynksys seems to be the most common. I have a love/hate with my Linksys SPA8K ATA, and I'm working to replace it. |
| 02:58.40 | jblack | SPA8000 allows up to 8 phones. |
| 02:58.45 | defaultro | omg, that is cool |
| 02:58.47 | ManxPower | You people don't know how nice it is to have internet access that is unlimited and low latency. |
| 02:58.54 | ManxPower | I don't have that. *whine* |
| 02:58.58 | defaultro | :) |
| 02:59.07 | defaultro | so don;t get SPA3000? |
| 02:59.07 | jblack | I've spent lots of time in hotels. Trust me, I know. |
| 02:59.28 | jblack | An spa3k might be what you want. But experience has taught me that adding new lines is addictive. |
| 02:59.35 | defaultro | to summarize, I will buy a Sipura and sign up with Vitelity |
| 02:59.41 | ManxPower | jblack: My only internet service options are 1) Satellite, 2) dialup or 3) EVDO (cellular) |
| 02:59.51 | defaultro | and I should be good to go, correct? |
| 02:59.56 | jblack | It doesn't take too long after you run a line to your bedroom that you start considering running lines to your bathroom, basement and garage too... |
| 03:00.21 | ManxPower | defaultro: SPA-2001 or 1001 should be a good choice. And pay attention to the factoid jbot is going to spew in a moment |
| 03:00.22 | defaultro | and using this route, my friends who are in landlines will still be able to call us correct? |
| 03:00.25 | jblack | ManxPower: Ouch. No LOS to something that does have bandwidth? |
| 03:00.25 | ManxPower | ~fxofxs |
| 03:00.26 | jbot | fxofxs is probably An FXO port (red Digium module) expects to receive dialtone and receive ring voltage. You can connect it to a PSTN line from the telco. An FXS port (green Digium module) expects to provide dialtone and provide ring voltage. You can connect a phone or a fax to it. |
| 03:00.51 | defaultro | cool |
| 03:00.56 | ManxPower | jblack: I live ELEVEN MILES from the nearest CO |
| 03:01.09 | jblack | Could you see it from a 20' tower? |
| 03:01.10 | ManxPower | defaultro: you need fxs ports on your ATA, not FXO. |
| 03:01.23 | ManxPower | jblack: I have a 20' tower |
| 03:01.30 | defaultro | so ManxPower, if I want to be called, it's a different service from Vitelity, and cost is a bit higher, correct? |
| 03:01.33 | jblack | When on top of it, can you see the CO? |
| 03:01.39 | defaultro | ok ManxPower |
| 03:01.44 | ManxPower | jblack: no, you cannot. |
| 03:01.45 | jblack | Or any reasonable large building in town? |
| 03:02.30 | ManxPower | jblack: imagine standing in the middle of a flat roof. Now how high do you have to be to see a person standing near the base of the building. |
| 03:02.48 | knarfly | so can anyone maybe suggest what to look for if my moh is silent? |
| 03:02.51 | ManxPower | I'm the one on the top of the building (mountain) and the CO is the person near the foot of the mountain. |
| 03:02.53 | jblack | don't make me do trig at 11:00 pm. |
| 03:03.36 | ManxPower | Whoo! Whoo! Faye might test the new new orleans pumping system |
| 03:03.39 | defaultro | ah, if FXO, I would use this if I want to build Asterisk |
| 03:03.40 | jblack | I was just thinking. There are laser links you can buy for ~20k, the last time I looked. If you could get a tower down there, you could make youself a better link. |
| 03:03.58 | jblack | Fay went to new orleans? Great |
| 03:04.06 | ManxPower | jblack: I'm moving anyway. |
| 03:04.16 | ManxPower | Of course, it won't be in any better location |
| 03:04.40 | jblack | Ok. So.. You get this big weather balloon, and........... |
| 03:04.42 | defaultro | let say my existing phone line from AT&T or Comcast, gets connected to FXO, then asterisk will act as my PABX, then assign each room an extension number. Is that correct? |
| 03:05.07 | ManxPower | jblack: I would need to have a tower tall enough to see over the edge of the mountain. |
| 03:05.38 | jblack | I get it. the mountain has a belly bulge. |
| 03:05.47 | ManxPower | defaultro: In theory, but most of those non-bell telcos do not provide the electrical signal asterisk expects to get when the far end hangs up. |
| 03:05.55 | defaultro | ok |
| 03:06.09 | jblack | What are you doing for power in the new place? |
| 03:06.14 | ManxPower | jblack: more of a 1000 ft high plateau. |
| 03:06.37 | defaultro | ManxPower, what if I want a free call to my family in another country, what do I need to setup on their side? |
| 03:06.40 | ManxPower | 3 miles wide, 7 miles long. Mostly tomato farms (look up Chandler mountain tomatos) |
| 03:07.09 | ManxPower | jblack: Have it installed. I'm not moving any place that does not have power company grid power. |
| 03:07.20 | jblack | There you go, then! |
| 03:07.36 | jblack | You should be able to lease pole usage, probably for around $5/pole/year |
| 03:07.49 | knarfly | defaultro: you could have a simple IP phone on the other end that registers with your asterisk server |
| 03:08.10 | defaultro | oh, that;s cool |
| 03:08.11 | knarfly | or you could use something like FreeWorld Dialup |
| 03:08.16 | defaultro | ok |
| 03:08.17 | ManxPower | jblack: typical tower rental is $10/ft/month |
| 03:08.20 | jblack | FreeWorldDialup isn't. |
| 03:08.29 | knarfly | but I think even FWD is charging now |
| 03:08.34 | drmessano | FWD isn't free |
| 03:08.34 | ManxPower | Sorry, $1/ft/month |
| 03:08.36 | defaultro | knarfly, if I want to make an asterisk, all I need is an FXO card correcT? |
| 03:08.47 | drmessano | --->* |
| 03:08.50 | jblack | ManxPower: Are you serious. They're charging that much out there? |
| 03:08.52 | drmessano | I made an asterisk |
| 03:08.55 | kd8ikt | well you could do VoIP |
| 03:09.00 | knarfly | not unless you're goinf to use the PSTN as one of your trunks |
| 03:09.03 | kd8ikt | *only |
| 03:09.14 | ManxPower | jblack: those 100ft towers are not cheap to maintain. |
| 03:09.28 | ManxPower | We have two microwave relay stations on the platau |
| 03:09.31 | defaultro | oh, you are right. That means, I need to keep my comcast line which I don't want |
| 03:09.32 | jblack | Ohhh, Those puppies. |
| 03:09.53 | kd8ikt | yeah but you get paid mass money to lease out towe/antenna use |
| 03:09.58 | ManxPower | I drool every time I drive past them |
| 03:10.07 | knarfly | VOIP would work but you'd need your friends to setup someway to get to you as well and unless they are into hacking forget it...I tried to get my sister in Texas into this VOIp and I might as well have tried to split the atom... |
| 03:10.11 | ManxPower | All those feedhorns |
| 03:10.22 | kd8ikt | heh |
| 03:10.28 | defaultro | :) |
| 03:10.38 | kd8ikt | knarfly: thats when you send her a pc pre setup |
| 03:10.41 | jblack | There's gotta be something ya can do. Even if you just did 4-5 relay stations down the mountain. |
| 03:10.54 | ManxPower | jblack: I'm tempted to give up on living at an intentional community and just get an apartment in the city. |
| 03:11.03 | knarfly | defaultro: remember if you give up your land line then if the power goes out your don't have a phone |
| 03:11.11 | jblack | Don't. society is gonna collapse in another 15 years. |
| 03:11.13 | drmessano | I set my Wife up an ATA with 3 phones wired into the house wiring, set the same up for her mom, labeled everything with ext numbers, and still they use Cell phones |
| 03:11.15 | defaultro | so if my setup is just SPA2001 and Vitelity, there is no way that by just adding a device to my family's setup, I won't be able to make a free phone overseas call. Correct? |
| 03:11.25 | drmessano | FamilyVoIP and FriendVoIP sucks |
| 03:11.28 | knarfly | kd8ikt: no, she'd just use it as a planter for her flowers |
| 03:11.28 | kd8ikt | knarfly: and jblack thats why i have a ham radio |
| 03:11.33 | defaultro | knarfly, yep I am aware. I have a cellphone |
| 03:11.42 | ManxPower | defaultro: Ask the carrier if they charge for calls between customers. |
| 03:11.50 | defaultro | ah |
| 03:11.51 | jblack | kd8ikt: Last I heard, one is lucky to get 2400 baud out of ham. |
| 03:12.00 | jblack | or is it 9600.... |
| 03:12.01 | defaultro | you mean, my family will also sign up with Vitelity? |
| 03:12.12 | kd8ikt | 96 |
| 03:12.12 | defaultro | so both of use in Vitelity |
| 03:12.15 | ManxPower | I don't know about Vitelity, but Packet8 (not suitable to use with Asterisk) does not charge for calls between customers. |
| 03:12.17 | defaultro | both of us |
| 03:12.25 | drmessano | You can run 56k over radio |
| 03:12.27 | ManxPower | Or they did not charge, I've not looked at them in years |
| 03:12.34 | defaultro | so packet8 is another vendor then |
| 03:12.36 | jblack | sipphone has free intra-customer calling. |
| 03:12.43 | jblack | And I don't think they charge for that, either. |
| 03:12.50 | ManxPower | defaultro: Packet8 does not permit you to connect 3rd party equipment |
| 03:12.55 | defaultro | ah |
| 03:12.58 | kd8ikt | i wish iaxtel would fricken allow registration already |
| 03:12.59 | defaultro | vitelity does? |
| 03:13.09 | defaultro | how long have you been with vitelity? |
| 03:13.12 | drmessano | Theres a lot of hamsats using 336 |
| 03:13.14 | drmessano | Theres a lot of hamsats using 33.6 |
| 03:13.21 | ManxPower | defaultro: ASK THEM. Policies change, even if someone says they do, you don't know if that's changed or not. |
| 03:13.31 | defaultro | k |
| 03:13.49 | defaultro | i'm hoping that my ISP will not traffic shape this traffic |
| 03:13.59 | jblack | They get into a lot of trouble if they do. |
| 03:14.06 | defaultro | k |
| 03:14.22 | defaultro | I saw a new before that Comcast paid a huge amount for limitting the bandwith |
| 03:14.28 | defaultro | i forgot what traffic it was |
| 03:14.31 | jblack | ANd that was just bittorrent. |
| 03:15.09 | jblack | targetting voip would be a disaster for any provider that tries it. FCC has said as much. |
| 03:15.57 | ManxPower | Yay! It's official, weather people are saying Faye will not be impacting New Orleans. |
| 03:16.12 | drmessano | Is it recurving yet? |
| 03:16.16 | jblack | No. Just the rivers upstream of new orleans. |
| 03:17.23 | ManxPower | I have a mail server upgrade in Covington, LA (30 miles north of New Orleans) starting at 2am Mon morning. We were going to postpone if the weather was bad. |
| 03:17.44 | jblack | I wouldn't go down there monday. |
| 03:18.21 | ManxPower | jblack: I've been in New Orleans since Wed. |
| 03:18.22 | drmessano | Shitty, its gonna go all the way around us |
| 03:18.59 | jblack | Looks like you're having nice wetaher right now. |
| 03:19.15 | ManxPower | *nod* Dry and warm. |
| 03:19.35 | knarfly | My echo test just worked fine but my moh is still silent. tcpdump shows the packets are coming in but still no sound in the speaker of the phones ??? |
| 03:20.46 | ManxPower | knarfly: what version of Asterisk? |
| 03:20.57 | knarfly | 1.4.21.2 |
| 03:21.23 | knarfly | I'm in Miami...I invented TS Fay |
| 03:21.26 | ManxPower | what was the first version of Asterisk on this system? |
| 03:21.36 | knarfly | 1.4.21.2 |
| 03:21.47 | ManxPower | knarfly: Odd. |
| 03:21.52 | knarfly | no upgrade was done this is a brand new install |
| 03:21.59 | jblack | knarfly: All three times Fay passed through FL ? |
| 03:22.31 | knarfly | jblack: yes, Lake Okechobee needed the h20 |
| 03:23.06 | knarfly | maybe the city will let us start watering our lawns and washing our cars again |
| 03:23.35 | jblack | If you do that, old people will spill out of the ground like locusts. |
| 03:23.57 | ManxPower | Apparently the most intense rain from Faye is now over Birmingham AL (I live an hr NE of there) |
| 03:24.19 | knarfly | ManxPower: this is a GS GXP2000 with four lines...i connect only one line to this sever...the other three play moh from the FreeBSD Asterisk machine that's in my computer lab just fine |
| 03:25.42 | knarfly | I'd post something in the forum at asteriskpbx.org but the moderator is out to lunch and some spammer has filled the damn thing with Viagra ads |
| 03:26.21 | *** join/#asterisk orkid (n=orkid@unaffiliated/orkid) |
| 03:28.46 | knarfly | rolls one up and blazes into the night |
| 03:29.15 | *** part/#asterisk knarfly (n=vtserije@c-75-74-155-198.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 03:29.50 | *** join/#asterisk ManxPower (n=manxpowe@adsl-157-16-38.msy.bellsouth.net) |
| 03:31.44 | *** join/#asterisk Entr4nced_ (n=IMG001@cpe-76-190-138-70.neo.res.rr.com) |
| 03:35.35 | defaultro | ManxPower, what does this mean, Outbound Termination 1.44¢ per min |
| 03:35.47 | defaultro | that's from ManxPower |
| 03:35.50 | defaultro | oops |
| 03:35.55 | defaultro | that's from Vitelity |
| 03:36.48 | defaultro | so does that mean everytime I make a succesful connection and talk like for 10 mins, it would be 10mins x 1.44c? |
| 03:37.28 | kd8ikt | sounds about right |
| 03:37.30 | brodiem | yes |
| 03:38.31 | defaultro | k |
| 03:39.18 | defaultro | so if I want both unlimited inbound and outbound, I will have to pay the $1.44c/min plus the $7.95/month. Did I get it right? |
| 03:39.25 | *** join/#asterisk xr_twenty (n=mark@pool-96-233-119-54.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) |
| 03:39.41 | kd8ikt | that doesnt sound like unlimited to me |
| 03:39.45 | jblack | You're fussing over numbers that are small enough in which they stop having meaning. |
| 03:39.53 | kd8ikt | i think someone is pulling a fast one over you |
| 03:39.58 | defaultro | sorry, only unlimited inbound |
| 03:40.15 | defaultro | for outbound, it's still the $1.44c/min |
| 03:40.22 | kd8ikt | i hear teliax is awesome |
| 03:40.29 | jblack | At 2 cents a minute, if you spend an hour a day on the phone, you're looking at all of $36. |
| 03:40.50 | defaultro | $36 for a month? |
| 03:40.57 | jblack | And 1.44 works out to about $26 a month, and 1.25 works out to $22.50 |
| 03:41.03 | defaultro | wow |
| 03:41.19 | defaultro | and that is 24 hours per day :D |
| 03:41.22 | defaultro | that's a good deal |
| 03:41.26 | jblack | No, that is an hour a day. |
| 03:41.40 | jblack | .0125 * 60 * 30 |
| 03:41.40 | kd8ikt | https://www.teliax.com/plans/4 |
| 03:41.47 | defaultro | k |
| 03:41.51 | Prayer | My household uses 300-550 minutes in a month. |
| 03:42.09 | defaultro | k |
| 03:42.23 | jblack | an hour a day works out to 1800 minutes a month. |
| 03:42.30 | defaultro | am assuming that 30 is the days correct? |
| 03:42.44 | kd8ikt | would never pay 1.44 a min |
| 03:42.45 | jblack | yes |
| 03:42.47 | defaultro | k |
| 03:42.56 | kd8ikt | unless it was a dirty chatline |
| 03:43.00 | kd8ikt | heh |
| 03:43.00 | defaultro | oh, vitelity is high then |
| 03:43.15 | Prayer | 1.44 is low very low |
| 03:43.17 | defaultro | so kd8ikt, you're with teliax |
| 03:43.30 | kd8ikt | no i have no voip provider |
| 03:43.38 | kd8ikt | i need free shit |
| 03:43.40 | Prayer | I pay 2.5c / min but when I do no minutes I pay $0 |
| 03:43.47 | defaultro | k |
| 03:44.58 | kd8ikt | u mean 2$ and 50 cents or .025$ cause you guys fucking with decimal points is really fucxking with me |
| 03:45.10 | *** join/#asterisk jsolis (n=jimmy@200.106.98.181) |
| 03:49.31 | kd8ikt | and thats not cool |
| 03:49.54 | *** join/#asterisk xr_twenty (n=mark@pool-96-233-119-54.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) |
| 03:50.31 | *** part/#asterisk xr_twenty (n=mark@pool-96-233-119-54.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) |
| 03:55.09 | jblack | 15-20 a month is so little. You can spend more on a single pizza. |
| 03:55.34 | jblack | skip 1 pizza a month, and you've paid for your voip. |
| 03:56.20 | jblack | kd8ikt: When we say .02, or .0125, we're saying "2 cents a minute, 1.25 cents a minute" |
| 03:56.52 | kd8ikt | well it sucks put the decimal where it belongs |
| 03:57.19 | jblack | It is in the proper place if one is talking dollars. |
| 03:57.36 | baliktad | all the voip providers list rates in fractional dollars (.0125, etc.) so it sounds less |
| 03:57.45 | jblack | I don't know which country you're in, but a dollar is the base unit of currency in the USA. |
| 03:58.50 | jblack | anyways, if you don't like the info you get here, you're welcome to get info elsewhere. |
| 04:06.02 | *** join/#asterisk sah-work (n=Bawbatos@adsl-76-236-64-182.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 04:10.24 | *** join/#asterisk nn (n=nn@unaffiliated/nn) |
| 04:15.07 | mchou | wow |
| 04:15.11 | mchou | just wow |
| 04:16.11 | mchou | yo, defaultro! |
| 04:16.31 | mchou | mchou: fancy seeing you here |
| 04:18.18 | *** join/#asterisk slider750 (n=chatzill@ip68-96-75-158.oc.oc.cox.net) |
| 04:18.53 | *** join/#asterisk iotashan (n=shan@adsl-71-150-254-145.dsl.mdsnwi.sbcglobal.net) |
| 04:25.23 | drmessano | kd8ikt: You're a ham and can't do math? |
| 04:25.32 | drmessano | I'm almost embaressed |
| 04:25.59 | mchou | why would a ham need to do math? It's a dead pig |
| 04:26.25 | drmessano | Thats a joke, right? |
| 04:26.32 | mchou | lol |
| 04:26.32 | slider750 | amateur radio sure does come in handy when natural disaster strikes and the cell towers don't work. |
| 04:26.44 | slider750 | anybody remember packet radio? |
| 04:27.09 | drmessano | Amateur radio is more or less glorified CB now |
| 04:28.23 | slider750 | i haven't been on for years, sorry to hear that... every year or so I think about buying a radio unit again but then i just turn on my laptop |
| 04:28.38 | slider750 | half the people i used to talk to are probably dead lol |
| 04:28.45 | drmessano | Probably |
| 04:28.46 | drmessano | Well |
| 04:28.54 | drmessano | Heres the cliff notes |
| 04:29.09 | drmessano | 2-meters: Well, shoot doggone.. fine business.. |
| 04:29.12 | slider750 | please do share.. |
| 04:29.20 | mchou | lol, I still remember kevin smith character "insurance policy" from Live Free or Die Hard |
| 04:29.26 | slider750 | 440 still around? how about 6 meter? |
| 04:29.28 | drmessano | 80 meters: Go fuck yourself you rotten son of a bastard, you're a bad ha, |
| 04:29.30 | drmessano | 80 meters: Go fuck yourself you rotten son of a bastard, you're a bad ham |
| 04:29.41 | jblack | Is there more to ham radio than "Anyone there?" "Yeah." "I'm in X" "I'm in y". "Cool. bye" ? |
| 04:29.51 | drmessano | Yeah, there is actually |
| 04:29.58 | drmessano | Its just deteriorated a bit |
| 04:30.01 | mchou | jblack: same could be said of cell phone :) |
| 04:30.10 | jblack | I don't have one of those either. |
| 04:30.10 | drmessano | slider750: I have a 440 repeater up |
| 04:30.27 | slider750 | no kidding. |
| 04:30.41 | slider750 | dr: This is also my first chat on IRC since... the 90s |
| 04:30.57 | slider750 | wow... you have an auto patch on the 440? |
| 04:31.05 | slider750 | is your autopatch connected to asterisk lol |
| 04:31.30 | slider750 | never thought the day would come when someone would have a repeater connected to SIP |
| 04:31.33 | drmessano | Well, my autopatch has a PAP2 on it |
| 04:31.43 | jblack | Maybe I'd care more if I weren't in a valley. |
| 04:31.45 | drmessano | and I am going to be turning up internet there this week |
| 04:31.57 | drmessano | So yeah it will be asterisk connected |
| 04:32.04 | slider750 | wholly mother that is sweet |
| 04:32.10 | slider750 | you got a project page up or anything? |
| 04:32.26 | drmessano | Well, we are working on documenting monsterzilla |
| 04:32.42 | drmessano | Our repeater is a mix of parts from a motorola and a Tait |
| 04:32.46 | drmessano | It weights 450lbs |
| 04:32.52 | drmessano | It has 2 PA's in it |
| 04:32.53 | slider750 | huh.. send me a private (or whatever you call it on IRC) and I'll tune in if I'm in the area. |
| 04:33.01 | drmessano | Rated for continous duty at 100w lol |
| 04:33.04 | slider750 | or at least i'll call into the asterisk box and use my call sign |
| 04:33.24 | mchou | haha |
| 04:33.39 | drmessano | 443.800 in North Augusta, SC |
| 04:33.45 | slider750 | wow... i used to get sweet access to antenna sites in CA. they are prob. all security restricted now. |
| 04:34.01 | slider750 | oohh we might need a little more juice to reach it from So Cal. |
| 04:34.16 | drmessano | I am gonna offer reverse autopatch on there soon.. after we get the testing bit out of the way |
| 04:34.21 | slider750 | i'll bounce some stuff your way one of these days.... do they even do uplinks? |
| 04:34.31 | slider750 | ok i'll drop ya my e-mail |
| 04:35.10 | drmessano | I need to get a full asterisk box out there |
| 04:35.17 | drmessano | But its not climate controlled that well |
| 04:35.25 | drmessano | So I am working on a special project for that |
| 04:35.27 | slider750 | Anybody: I'm looking for some asterisk conference experts. I am interested in pushing 1,000 participants at a time... |
| 04:35.34 | jblack | How exactly does one go about getting equipment up on a mountain? |
| 04:35.41 | *** join/#asterisk sah-work (n=Bawbatos@adsl-76-236-64-182.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 04:35.41 | slider750 | i just got some USB fans today, they are sorta handy. |
| 04:35.47 | slider750 | motorcycle! |
| 04:35.47 | drmessano | jblack: Blowjobs and donuts help |
| 04:35.54 | slider750 | that too.. |
| 04:36.38 | drmessano | If you sweet talk someone at a Clear Channel station, they have a company policy of giving free tower rent to amateur radio |
| 04:36.49 | jblack | Oh, really? |
| 04:36.50 | slider750 | do explain a bit |
| 04:36.54 | drmessano | The space is another consideration altogether |
| 04:36.55 | mchou | slider750: 1k participants? what are you planning? Invading China? |
| 04:37.37 | jblack | Oh, you mean space for equipment not on the tower. |
| 04:37.39 | slider750 | mchou: Outbound VB, Press-1 to join conference... I do it every week. Using a free (crappy) service... Half Duplex, about 10 moderators full duplex... Invading china yes |
| 04:37.40 | drmessano | Clear Channel has a very active disaster response team.. and one of the philanthropic offshoots of that is free tower rent to hams |
| 04:37.45 | drmessano | Well |
| 04:38.05 | drmessano | They dont HAVE To give you space for 10 racks of ham shit |
| 04:38.14 | drmessano | They will give you what floor space they have |
| 04:38.16 | jblack | "I was told donuts and blowjobs would be me on your tower. Here's a dozen donuts" |
| 04:38.18 | drmessano | If they have any |
| 04:38.35 | jblack | s/might get/ |
| 04:38.36 | drmessano | Basicially it's free space within reason |
| 04:38.43 | jblack | Sure. Philantropy is philantropy |
| 04:38.57 | slider750 | huh.. what kind of repeater solutions are available for "i'm returning to hamism after xx years" |
| 04:39.15 | jblack | Are they willing to consider non-ham? Say a pair of LOS repeaters? |
| 04:39.29 | drmessano | jblack: Yeah, for $$$$ lol |
| 04:39.38 | jblack | For $, or $$$$ ? |
| 04:39.47 | drmessano | They are in the business of selling tower space |
| 04:39.55 | jblack | damn. so $$$$ |
| 04:40.13 | jblack | has _no_ idea how much tower space costs. |
| 04:40.45 | drmessano | slider750: The quality of second hand repeater gear is much higher than it was years ago due to rebanding |
| 04:40.45 | slider750 | cost over $1 million a month just to have a channel on DirecTV these days. |
| 04:41.15 | drmessano | slider750: You can get a nice 15 yr old Motorola repeater for $200 |
| 04:41.20 | slider750 | wow |
| 04:41.28 | slider750 | i'm shocked... |
| 04:41.49 | drmessano | I would SERIOUSLY |
| 04:41.51 | drmessano | SERIOUSLY |
| 04:42.01 | drmessano | advise getting the duplexers tuned by a pro.. |
| 04:42.41 | jblack | wonders if non-ham tower access is within the range of mere mortals |
| 04:42.41 | drmessano | Some asshole with a couple HT's doesn't cut it |
| 04:42.46 | slider750 | oh yea for sure..i remember those all being a *****. We were so excited to get that PL tone thing installed way back... and the auto patch was my favorite. I remember the first time I showed someone I could order pizza from a mobile device. |
| 04:43.09 | slider750 | jblack: why not just go legit and use ham? no one is going to tune in to make $$$ anyways |
| 04:43.14 | drmessano | jblack: I want to say that we had a Cell company giving us $5000 a month for a site we had |
| 04:43.30 | drmessano | slider750: I put PL on my repeater |
| 04:43.35 | slider750 | the contacts alone at Clear Channel have to be worth something |
| 04:43.40 | drmessano | slider750: LOT of local hams pissed about it |
| 04:43.42 | slider750 | dr: of course you did... |
| 04:43.53 | slider750 | really? that's not in anymore huh? |
| 04:44.00 | drmessano | slider750: I see them at hamfests, and they keep asking me to take it off |
| 04:44.10 | jblack | slider750: Hmmm? I'm not thinking of anything illegitimate. |
| 04:44.10 | drmessano | slider750: PL is a NECESSITY.. but old farts hate it |
| 04:44.23 | slider750 | jblack: a little music to my ears |
| 04:44.35 | slider750 | dr: yes it is. |
| 04:45.11 | jblack | Just poking at possible options if some day I move to a Nowhere, and the only thing I can see is a radio tower. |
| 04:45.28 | hsv-al | drmessano, what about the electron spinning on kshell #3,which causes a power leak, which in turn causes a .05 shielding loss, only when PCI slots have 3.5 volts of reverse polarized energy, causing a linux box on quad core xeon to overload? |
| 04:45.46 | mchou | haha |
| 04:45.55 | CrashSys | damn that was hott |
| 04:46.45 | slider750 | dr: brb i'll try to find a pic of our repeater |
| 04:50.08 | slider750 | dr: no go... i was almost positive someone would have them on-line. oh well... neighbors sure didn't like us with our telescoping tower... guy who owned the place purchased the house just for hill location.. one of the tallest places in LA area... |
| 04:50.35 | slider750 | dr: night time was crazy. |
| 04:50.40 | mchou | slider750: what? Mt. Wilson? |
| 04:50.40 | CrashSys | have your own personal pirate radio |
| 04:51.23 | drmessano | nice |
| 04:51.49 | drmessano | Friend of mine got a commerical repeater at his house for that reason.. hes on a hill |
| 04:51.50 | slider750 | mchou: Palos Verdes |
| 04:52.17 | slider750 | mchou: you going to help me take over china or what? |
| 04:52.20 | mchou | Palos Verdes is nothing compared to Mt. Wilson |
| 04:52.34 | drmessano | When I lived about 2 miles from him, I had 40 ft of radio shack mast at my house, and I used to let other hams use me to digipeat from COlumbia, SC to south GA and Atlanta on cool nights |
| 04:52.42 | mchou | slider750: I dont even know what you talking about :) |
| 04:53.29 | mchou | slider750: 1k simultaneous participants, what's that you need to conference in shareholders? :) |
| 04:53.34 | slider750 | mchou: we had a sister station there but for our area it was nice, especially when you go to the backside (catalina) and you still want to chat... or in the canyons... we could reach it from about anywhere. |
| 04:53.42 | slider750 | min 5w anyways |
| 04:54.32 | mchou | slider750: nice |
| 04:54.34 | drmessano | You can run a nice little part15 station lol |
| 04:54.57 | drmessano | 300mw, max 15 ft length cable+antenna |
| 04:55.07 | drmessano | Put it on AM |
| 04:55.24 | slider750 | you can do something similar on FM too right? |
| 04:55.30 | drmessano | FM too |
| 04:55.39 | drmessano | See, if I was going to do it |
| 04:55.40 | slider750 | yea i had a ramsey a while back |
| 04:55.46 | drmessano | I would run AM stereo |
| 04:55.52 | slider750 | used it for radio in my house instead of wiring up speakers |
| 04:56.01 | slider750 | dr: hacker! |
| 04:56.10 | drmessano | lol |
| 04:57.06 | drmessano | I worked in broadcast for 15 years |
| 04:57.26 | drmessano | off and on.. 12 full time |
| 04:58.05 | slider750 | clear channel thing sounds like a good idea i'm going to search for info |
| 04:58.22 | drmessano | Just need to contact the nearest group |
| 04:58.29 | drmessano | Ask for the chief engineer |
| 04:58.42 | drmessano | If he doesnt know the policy, ask him to ask his regional engineer |
| 04:59.12 | slider750 | ok sweet |
| 04:59.25 | drmessano | You're in SOCal? |
| 04:59.36 | jblack | http://www.artscipub.com/repeaters/local-repeaters.asp?state=Pennsylvania&city=Wilkes-Barre |
| 04:59.55 | jblack | That doesn't look good for me. |
| 05:00.01 | slider750 | dr: yea.. |
| 05:00.33 | slider750 | brb |
| 05:01.30 | drmessano | How far is scranton? |
| 05:02.08 | jblack | about 20 miles. |
| 05:02.49 | drmessano | try scranton |
| 05:03.58 | jblack | I can see mountains on both sides of the valley. |
| 05:04.08 | *** join/#asterisk slider750 (n=Slider@ip68-96-75-158.oc.oc.cox.net) |
| 05:04.16 | jblack | http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=41.3397,-75.704041&spn=0.436141,1.039581&t=p&z=10 |
| 05:06.10 | slider750 | looking for my repeater now on google maps |
| 05:06.17 | jblack | Nowhere, surrounded by nowhere. |
| 05:07.02 | drmessano | Repeaters arent strictly tied to a specific town/city |
| 05:07.28 | drmessano | So "Scranton" means close enough to scranton to not make more sense to be listed as another city/town |
| 05:07.46 | jblack | yeah, If I wanted to play this game, I could put a repeater on a hill in wilkes-barre, and reach repeaters in scranton. |
| 05:07.53 | drmessano | 20 miles isn't that far.. and a "Scranton" could be as close as 10 miles |
| 05:07.55 | jblack | And from there, actually get somewhere. |
| 05:08.12 | drmessano | You could probably hit them already |
| 05:08.44 | jblack | Here's me: http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=41.250484,-75.871882&spn=0.013648,0.032487&t=p&z=15 |
| 05:08.54 | jblack | Scranton is north-east, through all those hills |
| 05:11.57 | drmessano | http://www.qsl.net/wa3yxk/rptrs.html |
| 05:12.01 | jblack | There are a pair of towers on Mt. Lookout (1500'), which I can't see due to hills, and another pair of towers, about 1500' as well, due south. |
| 05:12.07 | drmessano | That may not be 100% accurate |
| 05:12.14 | drmessano | But ARTSCI isn't always correct |
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| 05:13.25 | jblack | luckily, I have a police scanner on my desk. |
| 05:13.48 | jblack | I suppose I should be listening on $Output for $Tone |
| 05:14.28 | slider750 | i need to get a good scanner |
| 05:14.37 | slider750 | what web site should i shop at? |
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| 05:16.15 | jblack | I don't hear anything on any of them. |
| 05:16.33 | drmessano | jblack: It's not going to be continous |
| 05:16.34 | jblack | Neither output, nor input. Maybe in the afternoon, when people are awake. |
| 05:16.38 | drmessano | Yeah |
| 05:16.46 | drmessano | Output is where you're listening |
| 05:19.33 | drmessano | See the favicon on that page? |
| 05:19.39 | drmessano | the qsl.net one |
| 05:20.07 | drmessano | I designed that about 10 years ago |
| 05:20.10 | drmessano | lol |
| 05:20.38 | drmessano | Back when IE5 came out. I told him he needed a favicon.. He told me to design one and he would upload it.. so I did. |
| 05:22.17 | *** join/#asterisk jcaceres (n=asd@200.106.16.114) |
| 05:24.51 | slider750 | qsl.net only scored 65/100 on my SEO analyzer... ;( |
| 05:25.42 | slider750 | check out the meta tags lol |
| 05:32.07 | hsv-al | heh, this is my new MOH |
| 05:32.08 | hsv-al | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQfVte5nfg0 |
| 05:32.22 | hsv-al | to old for anyone to remember |
| 05:32.26 | jblack | bets it's a rickroll |
| 05:33.11 | jblack | lol. wu-tang |
| 05:34.08 | drmessano | oh god |
| 05:34.11 | drmessano | wu-tang |
| 05:34.22 | drmessano | they we're even cool when they were supposed to be |
| 05:34.52 | drmessano | Al Waller hasn't done much with QSL.net in years |
| 05:34.52 | Maliuta | drmessano: I think you mean "weren't" |
| 05:34.58 | drmessano | yeah that too |
| 05:35.16 | drmessano | wu-tang were lame |
| 05:35.18 | drmessano | There |
| 05:35.20 | slider750 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIWb6He5Wyw |
| 05:35.32 | slider750 | just saw that on TV, totally useless but damn that is funny |
| 05:36.16 | drmessano | Hmm |
| 05:37.04 | hsv-al | this is probably more acceptable; ) |
| 05:37.07 | hsv-al | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lH-0s0pRleg |
| 05:37.35 | hsv-al | imagine watching that while on peyote |
| 05:39.17 | jblack | I learned something from watching ping pong in the olympics. |
| 05:39.29 | drmessano | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0kFgVUSj-E <--- better hold music |
| 05:40.55 | hsv-al | .... that sounds like something old boring farts in tennesse would listen to |
| 05:40.59 | hsv-al | while drinking moonshine |
| 05:41.17 | drmessano | That |
| 05:41.29 | drmessano | That is Bad Company.. WTF is wrong with you? |
| 05:41.44 | drmessano | Lemme think |
| 05:41.51 | drmessano | Paul Rodgers or Wu-Tang |
| 05:41.53 | drmessano | Hmmm |
| 05:42.32 | slider750 | hahah lol |
| 05:42.41 | hsv-al | Dr. Messano, remember when you let us all down, and you said you date woman |
| 05:42.49 | hsv-al | and you prefer 18-23 yr olds, because it makes you feel young again? |
| 05:42.54 | hsv-al | you really think they go for that old "stuff" :) |
| 05:43.00 | drmessano | I'm not "old" |
| 05:43.05 | slider750 | just how old is the good dr |
| 05:43.12 | hsv-al | 30-33 most likely :) |
| 05:43.13 | slider750 | c'mon your a ham |
| 05:43.22 | drmessano | I'm between 20 and 60, give or take 40 years |
| 05:43.31 | slider750 | anybody who knows **** about ham is older than the normal asterisk hack |
| 05:43.41 | slider750 | so pushing 3 digits then? |
| 05:43.57 | drmessano | lol |
| 05:44.02 | drmessano | I'm 31 |
| 05:44.14 | drmessano | and I hate younger women |
| 05:44.26 | hsv-al | http://cdn.stumble-upon.com/mediumpics/4121226.jpg |
| 05:44.27 | slider750 | private me your call sign we'll see about that... |
| 05:44.29 | slider750 | hahah |
| 05:44.29 | hsv-al | http://drmessano.stumbleupon.com/about/ |
| 05:44.31 | drmessano | Lets take the line "Lets do some anal" |
| 05:44.39 | Maliuta | drmessano: yeah my problems are 21 |
| 05:44.50 | hsv-al | oh give me a break drmessano |
| 05:44.52 | drmessano | Young Girls response "Liek ZOMG, no" |
| 05:45.00 | Maliuta | rofl |
| 05:45.00 | hsv-al | you know you stare at the tan southern preppy girls who shop at A&F in the mall, but realize |
| 05:45.05 | hsv-al | its not possible anymore |
| 05:45.10 | hsv-al | :) |
| 05:45.15 | slider750 | rofl |
| 05:45.22 | drmessano | Older Womans response "OMG, no one has touched me in years.. YES YES" |
| 05:45.31 | slider750 | time to move to Utah |
| 05:45.37 | drmessano | Get em 37 to 43 and you're all good |
| 05:46.02 | slider750 | always wanted to bone a 40 yr old |
| 05:46.02 | Maliuta | only if they're loaded |
| 05:46.06 | slider750 | that too |
| 05:46.12 | drmessano | The quiet neglected ones rock |
| 05:46.22 | drmessano | All that built up lack of attention |
| 05:46.30 | slider750 | <- searching youporn for dr |
| 05:46.34 | drmessano | lol |
| 05:46.36 | hsv-al | drmessano, you need to rethink priorities |
| 05:46.46 | hsv-al | and go for (===@ instead of _/\*/\_ |
| 05:47.08 | slider750 | ROFL |
| 05:47.18 | drmessano | I hope I am not misreading that |
| 05:47.27 | slider750 | oh i am |
| 05:47.32 | drmessano | Why do I want to stick my penis in their flower pot? |
| 05:47.37 | slider750 | that is some funny **** |
| 05:47.59 | slider750 | variety |
| 05:48.26 | hsv-al | wtf, the latest firmware update for iphone 3g |
| 05:48.32 | hsv-al | 2.0.2, now appends exif satelite data |
| 05:48.35 | drmessano | Dry humping is bad enough, but dry humping 10-10-10 soil with a boston fern in it is not cool |
| 05:48.35 | hsv-al | in the mime headers |
| 05:48.41 | hsv-al | like 200 characters into the files |
| 05:48.51 | hsv-al | automatically |
| 05:49.00 | slider750 | stop it |
| 05:49.18 | hsv-al | that has 2 potential reasons, why apple did this i bet |
| 05:49.20 | slider750 | irc is funny |
| 05:49.22 | hsv-al | 1) requset from military |
| 05:49.30 | hsv-al | or 2) fbi, to track pedos who snap kids of pics |
| 05:49.30 | drmessano | hsv-al: I'm sure you're not a virgin, but seriously, I think you're doing it wrong |
| 05:49.47 | hsv-al | pics of kids |
| 05:49.57 | slider750 | dr: that's a young mans game these days |
| 05:50.44 | slider750 | kids do everything but _/\*/\_ then afterwards they do _/\*/\_ when they are bored... horny bitches |
| 05:51.28 | drmessano | The trick to getting a reluctant woman to do anything you want is to ignore her just long enough |
| 05:51.37 | slider750 | damn that is the secret |
| 05:51.44 | hsv-al | http://men.style.com/fashion/collections/S2009MEN/runwayshows |
| 05:51.58 | slider750 | wtf? |
| 05:52.04 | hsv-al | who the hell pays $2,000 for those outfits |
| 05:52.05 | hsv-al | http://men.style.com/fashion/collections/S2009MEN/review/VERSACEMEN |
| 05:52.19 | drmessano | hsv-al: Just come out of the closet dude.. |
| 05:52.33 | slider750 | Dood, no M (===@ |
| 05:53.02 | drmessano | (===@ <--- That looks like jerking off on her DirecTV dish |
| 05:53.08 | drmessano | Not sure.. |
| 05:53.15 | hsv-al | drmessano, wear this to work |
| 05:53.16 | hsv-al | on monday |
| 05:53.16 | hsv-al | http://men.style.com/slideshows/mens/fashionshows/S2009MEN/VERSACEMEN/RUNWAY/00080m.jpg |
| 05:53.20 | slider750 | hmmm... no more playboy channel sorry |
| 05:54.08 | drmessano | hsv-al: That's all you dude |
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| 05:54.35 | slider750 | back on track: http://www.style.com/peopleparties/modelsearch/person190/slideshow?iphoto=22 |
| 05:55.21 | drmessano | http://bp0.blogger.com/_1Ssoxfl0MvQ/R6mO1QZMPjI/AAAAAAAADFo/TpXP_A1NiC0/s1600-h/Thirteen.jpg |
| 05:55.23 | drmessano | Better |
| 05:55.39 | hsv-al | she'd wear the pants in a relationship |
| 05:55.42 | hsv-al | be ready for her to wear suspenders |
| 05:56.22 | mchou | she's bi :) |
| 05:56.33 | mchou | at least on house |
| 05:56.45 | drmessano | No |
| 05:56.49 | drmessano | She's POSSIBLY |
| 05:57.00 | drmessano | That's part of the whole ambiguity thing |
| 05:57.06 | mchou | drmessano: you even watch the show? |
| 05:57.12 | drmessano | Yes |
| 05:57.17 | drmessano | Thats why I am telling you |
| 05:57.21 | hsv-al | drmessano, i doubt shed want to talk about coils that protect |
| 05:57.26 | hsv-al | power leakage, on cable lines |
| 05:57.27 | mchou | drmessano: there is no ambiguity |
| 05:57.30 | hsv-al | and energy bleed off |
| 05:57.37 | drmessano | mchou: yes there is |
| 05:57.57 | mchou | drmessano: then you've clearly missed a few episodes |
| 05:58.05 | hsv-al | btw, did jailbreak |
| 05:58.06 | hsv-al | get canceled |
| 05:58.10 | hsv-al | i havent watch that since season |
| 05:58.11 | hsv-al | 1 |
| 05:58.43 | slider750 | prison break? |
| 05:58.45 | drmessano | Thirteen's sexuality is also ambiguous; Foreman and House have suggested that she is bisexual, and Thirteen herself has made comments implying that she is bisexual, although she might have been joking. |
| 05:59.05 | jblack | 13 is bi. I dont doubt it. |
| 05:59.06 | slider750 | all women are IMHO |
| 05:59.07 | mchou | drmessano: dude, there is no joking |
| 05:59.14 | slider750 | well.. most women.. |
| 05:59.18 | slider750 | hot women |
| 05:59.25 | drmessano | mchou: I watch the show |
| 05:59.32 | mchou | drmessano: you dont fake a reactione (unless you are an actor :))) |
| 05:59.39 | slider750 | butch's are too pissed |
| 05:59.43 | drmessano | Dude, its a TV show |
| 05:59.57 | jblack | when does house come back? |
| 06:00.01 | mchou | drmessano: and that's what I'm talking about |
| 06:00.23 | hsv-al | drmessano |
| 06:00.25 | drmessano | mchou: Whatever you say |
| 06:00.25 | hsv-al | here, lets take a break |
| 06:00.29 | hsv-al | this is actually an intellectual video |
| 06:00.32 | hsv-al | view the whole thing |
| 06:00.33 | hsv-al | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJ8CUz4MZ1M |
| 06:00.35 | Maliuta | House pisses me off, they insist on showing copious amounts of BMA's and LP's ... I've had dozens of both and don't need to see either |
| 06:00.37 | mchou | drmessano: her "reaction" to Foreman was not "faked" |
| 06:01.05 | drmessano | mchou: It's a TV show.. her reaction is whatever the writers wanted it to be |
| 06:01.09 | drmessano | Do you get that? |
| 06:01.13 | drmessano | It's fake |
| 06:01.17 | mchou | drmessano: nor was her reaction to house when he said "You can do it both ways" |
| 06:01.33 | jameswf-home | hsv-al: this video is better http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ3oHpup-pk |
| 06:01.35 | drmessano | She's not written as being Bi.. it's been purposely ambigous as part of the whole mystery of her character |
| 06:02.04 | drmessano | Why am I watching a video of space? |
| 06:02.04 | mchou | drmessano: dude, like I said, you've missed a few episodes |
| 06:02.11 | drmessano | mchou: No, I havent |
| 06:02.18 | hsv-al | drmessano, you seem think |
| 06:02.20 | hsv-al | nothing confuses you |
| 06:02.22 | hsv-al | but this video will |
| 06:02.23 | hsv-al | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJ8CUz4MZ1M |
| 06:02.32 | jblack | The last one I saw was CTB being in the accident. |
| 06:02.35 | drmessano | mchou: If I said I didn't, how did I miss them? |
| 06:02.44 | jameswf-home | ~minimall |
| 06:02.54 | jameswf-home | argh |
| 06:03.00 | jblack | I have all of 'em here. I can check... |
| 06:03.27 | mchou | drmessano: cause you're insisting on "ambiguity" when there is none, at least where this is concerned |
| 06:03.28 | hsv-al | jblack, this should really make people think |
| 06:03.30 | hsv-al | about stuff in general |
| 06:03.30 | hsv-al | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJ8CUz4MZ1M |
| 06:03.38 | hsv-al | it put me in a mental block, heh |
| 06:03.42 | jblack | Dude. Stop whoing for youtube. |
| 06:03.47 | jblack | whoring, that is |
| 06:03.48 | drmessano | mchou: You're seriously way off |
| 06:04.03 | jameswf-home | hsv-al: your video sucks mine is better |
| 06:04.10 | hsv-al | view it all |
| 06:04.11 | hsv-al | 6min |
| 06:04.15 | hsv-al | it makes you think...... |
| 06:04.19 | hsv-al | were a f'ing dot in the universe |
| 06:04.23 | hsv-al | a microscopic dust |
| 06:04.25 | jameswf-home | about livingrooms |
| 06:04.36 | jameswf-home | bedrooms |
| 06:04.38 | jameswf-home | dinettes |
| 06:04.45 | drmessano | Montgomery |
| 06:04.47 | drmessano | Flea Market |
| 06:04.51 | drmessano | It's just like.. |
| 06:05.01 | drmessano | It's just like.. |
| 06:05.04 | drmessano | A Mini mall |
| 06:05.06 | jblack | A Mini-mall |
| 06:05.15 | jblack | my kid sings that all the time |
| 06:05.36 | hsv-al | jblack, we think we are smart..... |
| 06:05.42 | hsv-al | but humans are a pindot in the universe |
| 06:06.04 | mchou | drmessano: well, either you've missed some episoded or you have Asperger's |
| 06:06.23 | drmessano | mchou: I know what i've seen, and you're way off |
| 06:06.37 | jblack | You want to understand our place in the world, check this: http://www.micro.magnet.fsu.edu/primer/java/scienceopticsu/powersof10/ |
| 06:06.38 | mchou | drmessano: cause if you didn't miss any episodes you missued a few important social cues |
| 06:06.48 | mchou | missed* |
| 06:06.52 | drmessano | mchou: If you say so |
| 06:06.53 | jblack | It's better backwards. |
| 06:07.00 | slider750 | where the aliens at? |
| 06:07.04 | jameswf-home | ~troll |
| 06:07.05 | jbot | rumour has it, troll is a race on some muds; a guy under a bridge: an annoying robot; a port scanner, or somebody faking being clueless to be shown the One Linux Way so he can argue against it for his psychology thesis on linux advocates, or an employee of trolltech, or at http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2001/7/27/51233/2979 or http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/entry/troll.html |
| 06:07.54 | DarKnesS_WolF | lol |
| 06:08.07 | hsv-al | jblack |
| 06:08.19 | hsv-al | that video assumes we travel through universe at 186,000(?) miles/second |
| 06:08.23 | hsv-al | takes 8 years to get to the sun |
| 06:08.31 | jameswf-home | ping Qwell |
| 06:08.32 | hsv-al | 15+billion years to get to the "MBR |
| 06:08.38 | slider750 | so i click on the link and i get this gay multi color spinny beach ball what does that mean? |
| 06:08.43 | slider750 | j/k |
| 06:08.50 | slider750 | hahah |
| 06:09.04 | drmessano | http://house.wikia.com/wiki/Number_13 |
| 06:10.21 | slider750 | jblack: good pic... that's what that new accelerator is for right? |
| 06:10.22 | *** part/#asterisk Prayer (n=Administ@c-71-225-221-149.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 06:10.25 | drmessano | Any reference you find to her on the web neither confirms nor denies it.. Her character is not written as being Bi, and trust me, as fanboi-sm goes, if she was truly BI, without a doubt, and above the speculation and ambiguity they have made on the show, it would be "ZOMG SHE IS BI" all over the place |
| 06:10.41 | drmessano | So mchou, don't fucking tell me about missing shit, and not being observant, etc |
| 06:10.54 | jameswf-home | ping Qwell? |
| 06:10.57 | jameswf-home | whos bi |
| 06:11.00 | mchou | drmessano: you believe everything you read on a wiki??? |
| 06:11.07 | mchou | drmessano: lol |
| 06:11.11 | drmessano | NOT JUST THAT ONE LIKE YOU ASSHOLE |
| 06:11.14 | drmessano | God you are an idiot |
| 06:11.19 | drmessano | LINK* |
| 06:11.31 | mchou | drmessano: you've got low standards of proof |
| 06:11.33 | hsv-al | dcc's drmessano some ritalin |
| 06:11.37 | drmessano | Considering your high level of density in all things asterisk, I am wasting my time |
| 06:11.38 | hsv-al | dcc's drmessano zoloft |
| 06:11.42 | drmessano | You are a retard |
| 06:11.42 | hsv-al | dcc's drmessano paxil |
| 06:11.51 | jameswf-home | drmessano: whos bi? |
| 06:12.01 | mchou | jameswf-home: 13 on house |
| 06:12.08 | drmessano | Ask mchou, and have him help you with your dialplan while you're at it |
| 06:12.11 | drmessano | He's a genius |
| 06:12.15 | jameswf-home | arent all women secretly bi |
| 06:12.27 | slider750 | james: agreed |
| 06:12.38 | slider750 | especially with a little alcohol |
| 06:13.10 | mchou | drmessano: you even KNOW which episode I'm referring to when house says "you can do it both ways?" |
| 06:13.26 | drmessano | mchou: You seriously don't "Get it" if you think her being bisexual is so blatantly obvious.. you have no concept of how her character is written and seem to know absolutely nothing about how they are intentionally wrapping this veil of secrecy around her character |
| 06:13.30 | drmessano | mchou: ONE LINE? |
| 06:13.35 | slider750 | but for characters sake, i agree she is written to be,.... well... exactly what we are talking about... |
| 06:13.43 | drmessano | mchou: Seriously? THis is about ONE EPISODE and ONE LINE |
| 06:13.53 | drmessano | mchou: Do you even watch TV? |
| 06:14.07 | mchou | drmessano: dude, how about here reaction to foreman in the MRI room? |
| 06:14.08 | hsv-al | jameswf-home |
| 06:14.12 | hsv-al | im dissapointed in you |
| 06:14.16 | mchou | her* |
| 06:14.17 | hsv-al | you are idling in channels / ##politics |
| 06:14.23 | hsv-al | that is the most ridiculous channel on freenode |
| 06:14.34 | drmessano | mchou: Have you ever grasped concepts like the tension between male and female characters, the secrets that play out in later seasons, cliffhangers, etc? |
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| 06:14.53 | mchou | drmessano: I'm citing you episodes of the show instead of wikis. |
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| 06:14.59 | drmessano | DO they think they really bring someone in, make her intentionally mysterious, and then are all like "Oh, yeah, shes a dyke" |
| 06:15.14 | jameswf-home | i must be special if you ran a whois on me :)) |
| 06:15.17 | drmessano | mchou: I am not going do your searching for you.. I posted one link |
| 06:15.40 | mchou | drmessano: and you dont undersstand your links have ZERO weight |
| 06:15.42 | jameswf-home | Thirteen herself has made comments implying that she is bisexual, although she might have been joking. |
| 06:15.48 | jblack | I'm sure she's a dyke. I think that whenever the camera isn't on her, she munches carpet. |
| 06:16.06 | slider750 | and likes it |
| 06:16.25 | jeev | carpet munchers |
| 06:16.26 | drmessano | mchou: Again, I posted one link as an example.. you are sad if your argument against is going to be based on ONE link I posted.. |
| 06:16.32 | mchou | drmessano: you cite me a wiki link in support for your thesis. That's frigging brilliant |
| 06:16.39 | drmessano | mchou: As are you |
| 06:16.58 | mchou | when I cite you scenes from actual episodes |
| 06:17.01 | jblack | I miss lost and house. |
| 06:17.05 | drmessano | mchou: you have cited nothing other than conjecture.. much like your asterisk troubleshooting |
| 06:17.46 | mchou | considering I've only installed asterisk ~2 wks ago I'm doing well, thanks |
| 06:17.53 | slider750 | what's asterisk? |
| 06:18.38 | drmessano | mchou: If you say so |
| 06:18.43 | Maliuta | slider750: it's the character above the 8 on your keyboard |
| 06:19.02 | Maliuta | slider750: I believe you press the "shift" button to use it |
| 06:19.37 | slider750 | so i push shift-8 to make a phone call? |
| 06:19.43 | mchou | haha! |
| 06:19.48 | jameswf-home | asterisk = shift+8 |
| 06:19.49 | slider750 | * |
| 06:19.50 | slider750 | dammit |
| 06:19.53 | slider750 | this isn't working |
| 06:20.00 | mchou | lol |
| 06:20.04 | Maliuta | slider750: what does the asterisk have to do with phone calls? |
| 06:20.08 | jameswf-home | wow im slow |
| 06:20.12 | Maliuta | slider750: you're confusing me! :P |
| 06:20.19 | slider750 | lol |
| 06:20.40 | drmessano | * is above the 9 on my numeric keypad.. I guess I am using 1.6 |
| 06:20.45 | slider750 | don't drink and * |
| 06:20.53 | slider750 | or do |
| 06:21.29 | slider750 | <--- the newbie votes for a topic change |
| 06:21.44 | Maliuta | drmessano: you're blowing my mind! |
| 06:21.56 | drmessano | I wanted the topic changed to something about 1.6 RC1 being out |
| 06:22.05 | drmessano | But the coders have better ideas |
| 06:22.11 | Maliuta | slider750: no, the topic tells people to fuck off if they want support for other stuff |
| 06:22.16 | drmessano | Gonna leave us at a bisexual cliffhanger with beta9 |
| 06:22.20 | jameswf-home | tech pron |
| 06:22.21 | drmessano | Is it beta, is it RC? |
| 06:22.23 | drmessano | Who knows.. |
| 06:22.41 | drmessano | Beta9 is Betasexual |
| 06:23.54 | drmessano | I think I have a bad batter charger |
| 06:24.07 | drmessano | battery |
| 06:24.55 | slider750 | 该æ»的晚上好 |
| 06:25.14 | Maliuta | slaps slider750 |
| 06:25.17 | drmessano | or a bad cell |
| 06:25.19 | Maliuta | don't talk like that to me |
| 06:25.36 | slider750 | ouch... |
| 06:26.18 | slider750 | peace out |
| 06:28.52 | drmessano | Got almost full charge on the batteries |
| 06:28.57 | drmessano | Been charging for 8 hours |
| 06:35.48 | drmessano | Hmm |
| 06:36.00 | drmessano | Now for my sendtones project lol |
| 06:37.51 | hsv-al | winamp: http://192.87.65.61:8200 |
| 06:38.32 | drmessano | I can deal with trance |
| 06:38.38 | drmessano | Just not hip-hop |
| 06:38.59 | hsv-al | im burning that dvd |
| 06:39.12 | hsv-al | for my new car |
| 06:39.18 | hsv-al | well that stream |
| 06:39.32 | hsv-al | Audio makes a special headunit that can capture winamp streams and play in real time, and burn to dash mounted iphone 3G |
| 06:39.37 | hsv-al | s/audio/audi |
| 06:40.20 | hsv-al | http://www.zercustoms.com/news/Nothelle-Audi-TT.html |
| 06:40.29 | hsv-al | http://www.zercustoms.com/photos/Nothelle-Audi-TT/Nothelle-Audi-TT-7.jpg.html |
| 06:40.46 | hsv-al | cant get more metrosexual then that, while being muscular |
| 06:40.55 | drmessano | My porsche has that |
| 06:41.02 | hsv-al | http://img.worldcarfans.com/US/2007/11/2/9071102.004/9071102.004.1M.jpg |
| 06:41.29 | hsv-al | you'd never think a car looks good w/ white rims |
| 06:41.31 | hsv-al | but that car is slick |
| 06:42.25 | drmessano | I was going to get a 911s |
| 06:42.56 | drmessano | But I opted for two Boxters S's in different colors |
| 06:43.02 | drmessano | I didnt want to seem pretentious |
| 06:43.25 | hsv-al | look at the rims on this |
| 06:43.26 | hsv-al | http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-2007/2007-Nothelle-Audi-TT-Front-Section-1024x768.jpg |
| 06:43.45 | hsv-al | nothelle mod has like 580hp, does 0-60 in 3.18-3.20 |
| 06:43.50 | hsv-al | can beat a 911 Turbo, its a sleeper |
| 06:44.06 | drmessano | Speed doesn't concern me.. Looks do |
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| 06:44.49 | hsv-al | http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-2007/2007-Nothelle-Audi-TT-Front-Section-1024x768.jpg |
| 06:45.06 | drmessano | What good is getting a car that goes 0-60 in 3 seconds and maxes out at 150MPH when you're gonna do all your driving in a residential area |
| 06:45.32 | drmessano | Thats like buying a DL385 for a home PBX |
| 06:45.35 | hsv-al | it enables the 17-23 yr old flesh to be magnetized |
| 06:45.37 | hsv-al | nothingm ore nothing less |
| 06:45.47 | hsv-al | ;] |
| 06:46.37 | hsv-al | winamp stream updated, to better music |
| 06:46.42 | hsv-al | winamp: http://192.87.65.61:8200 |
| 06:46.46 | drmessano | Yeah.. That's the kind of pussy I want.. the kind that's magnetized to a car so easily.. and can be easily magnetized away for the same reasons |
| 06:46.51 | drmessano | Do you have a small penis? |
| 06:47.07 | drmessano | or some horrible gulf-war disfigurement? |
| 06:47.18 | drmessano | 1 ear? |
| 06:48.00 | hsv-al | be different in life |
| 06:48.03 | drmessano | Get chicks like everyone else does.. LIE TO THEM |
| 06:48.06 | hsv-al | dont conformto being what society says to do |
| 06:48.08 | hsv-al | have fun while your alive |
| 06:49.04 | drmessano | Getting a new high priced car is predictable |
| 06:49.19 | drmessano | Do something different.. tell a girl you have two weeks to live |
| 06:49.25 | drmessano | or that you're impotent |
| 06:49.34 | drmessano | and need her help to fix it |
| 06:49.38 | drmessano | Umm |
| 06:49.55 | drmessano | Tell her you have a rich uncle and need to make an heir before he dies |
| 06:50.23 | drmessano | Spend your time making up lies and not waxing/polishing |
| 06:50.44 | drmessano | Send a signal to the women of the world |
| 06:50.56 | drmessano | I WILL NOT HAVE YOU LIKE ME BECAUSE OF MY EXPENSIVE CAR |
| 06:51.04 | drmessano | I WILL HAVE YOU LIKE ME BECAUSE I MADE UP A BUNCH OF LIES |
| 06:51.12 | drmessano | *ME* not *THE CAR* |
| 06:51.46 | drmessano | hsv-al: I am gonna let you in on a secret |
| 06:51.49 | drmessano | One I dont share my many |
| 06:51.54 | drmessano | My mantra for life |
| 06:52.01 | drmessano | err with* |
| 06:52.14 | drmessano | The three words I use to guide my entire existance |
| 06:52.48 | drmessano | Every day I wake up and I say and think these three words |
| 06:52.51 | DarKnesS_WolF | mmm drmessano are u high ? |
| 06:52.56 | drmessano | Live Like Hasselhoff |
| 06:53.14 | drmessano | "Live Like Hasselhoff" |
| 06:53.33 | drmessano | WWTHD = What Would The Hoff Do? |
| 06:53.44 | drmessano | Will get you IN or OUT of any situation |
| 06:53.53 | drmessano | Think like the Hoff |
| 06:53.58 | drmessano | BE the Hoff |
| 06:55.05 | hsv-al | wtf? |
| 06:55.06 | hsv-al | http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/olympics/2008/08/23/taekwondo.ban.ap/index.html?cnn=yes |
| 06:55.17 | hsv-al | Cuban athlete banned for life after kicking taekwondo referee |
| 06:55.25 | hsv-al | video of it, lol |
| 06:55.26 | hsv-al | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCOUtrggxyM&feature=related |
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| 06:59.31 | drmessano | The Hoff wouldn't have taken that crap |
| 07:00.24 | drmessano | He would have walked off to the locker room, hooked up with some chick from Peru to make him feel better |
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| 07:08.53 | jblack | Kicking a ref doesn't seem like a bright idea to me. |
| 07:11.28 | drmessano | He's cuban, he's used to being embargo'ed |
| 07:16.39 | JT | if it was a contest of intelligence, the olympics would have chess competitions |
| 07:19.05 | Maliuta | chess is for whimps, real brains play Go |
| 07:19.09 | Maliuta | far more complex |
| 07:19.28 | Maliuta | and out of the reach of modern computational methods |
| 07:19.41 | drmessano | Go Fish? |
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| 07:22.04 | Maliuta | drmessano: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_(board_game) |
| 07:34.06 | drmessano | I was joking about the "Go Fish", but this looks fascinating.. |
| 07:34.12 | drmessano | Never played it before |
| 07:37.04 | Maliuta | gets used in cog-sci alot, because it's non-computable |
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| 07:52.42 | drmessano | wow |
| 07:52.56 | drmessano | AIM call out is .016 per minute US |
| 07:54.17 | Maliuta | drmessano: I can call the US for $0.08AU untimed |
| 07:55.56 | drmessano | um ok |
| 07:56.26 | Maliuta | so why would I bother with AIM? |
| 07:56.40 | drmessano | The number you gave me is higher |
| 07:57.13 | Maliuta | and not per minute |
| 07:57.51 | drmessano | So it costs you 8 cents period? |
| 07:57.55 | Maliuta | yup |
| 07:58.08 | Maliuta | 8 cents and I can talk as long as I like |
| 07:58.23 | Maliuta | US, UK, Canada .... it's a long list |
| 07:58.38 | drmessano | No monthly fee |
| 07:58.41 | drmessano | Just 8 cents per call? |
| 07:58.45 | Maliuta | regularly talk to the parents in Canadia for hours |
| 07:58.48 | Maliuta | nope |
| 07:58.51 | Maliuta | no monthly |
| 07:59.05 | drmessano | Who is the service? |
| 07:59.20 | Maliuta | don't know if they are still doing that plan, but I get to keep it and my DID I got for a $10 deposit |
| 07:59.28 | Maliuta | www,pennytel.com |
| 07:59.34 | Maliuta | s/,/./ |
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| 08:02.06 | drmessano | hmmm |
| 08:02.56 | Maliuta | drmessano: I think they changed the rules on DID's recently now they're $10/yr or something. They are still doing plans with no monthly's though |
| 08:03.38 | drmessano | $5 a month for the 8c |
| 08:03.58 | drmessano | Exchange is 2 to 1 USD? |
| 08:04.14 | drmessano | LOL |
| 08:04.16 | drmessano | Good god |
| 08:04.25 | drmessano | I guess I have been out of the loop for a few years |
| 08:04.32 | drmessano | Damn dollar is weaker than the AUD |
| 08:04.53 | drmessano | I wonder if they'll ship me a $16 SPA3102 |
| 08:05.11 | Maliuta | drfreeze: free access untimed |
| 08:05.38 | drmessano | http://www.pennytel.com/index.html?divID=untimed_1 |
| 08:05.45 | drmessano | Only AU$5.00 per month |
| 08:06.20 | Maliuta | http://www.pennytel.com/call_plans_compare.html |
| 08:06.40 | Maliuta | you'll see you can still get the $0.08AU calls with no monthly |
| 08:07.20 | Maliuta | and a DID for $5/yr |
| 08:07.46 | drmessano | ah |
| 08:07.59 | drmessano | So whats the catch? |
| 08:08.07 | Maliuta | there is none |
| 08:08.18 | Maliuta | not that I am aware of |
| 08:08.36 | Maliuta | been using them for 18months or so |
| 08:09.11 | Maliuta | moved from mynetfone because their idea of "untimed" was upto 2hrs, and the clause was buried |
| 08:09.18 | DarKnesS_WolF | Maliuta: where is a did for 5 usd a year ? |
| 08:09.20 | drmessano | Other than probably hitting a proxy in OZ, I don't see why I would have a problem with itr |
| 08:09.35 | drmessano | DarKnesS_WolF: No such thing |
| 08:09.43 | Maliuta | DarKnesS_WolF: not $5US $5AU |
| 08:09.50 | Maliuta | DarKnesS_WolF: and it's a .au DID |
| 08:10.10 | DarKnesS_WolF | Maliuta: ahh ic |
| 08:10.15 | Maliuta | drmessano: well I am in .au so no real problem |
| 08:10.37 | Maliuta | DarKnesS_WolF: but their calls are $0.08AU untimed to the US/Canadia/UK ..... |
| 08:12.55 | drmessano | Back 6 or 7 years ago I had some IRC friends in OZ |
| 08:13.01 | drmessano | I used to call now and then |
| 08:13.27 | Maliuta | yeah, not so much |
| 08:13.38 | drmessano | 1 hour was $10 after my father negotiated some plan with AT&T after I ran up a $350 call for 50 minutes one day |
| 08:14.00 | jblack | bleh. ubuntu is distributing * 1.4.10 with gutsy, but providing sources for 1.4.11 |
| 08:14.07 | Maliuta | the rates over landline are extortionate |
| 08:14.18 | drmessano | I paid damn $350 for ONE phone call |
| 08:14.23 | Maliuta | Helstra charge way too much |
| 08:15.09 | drmessano | I noticed that in OZ you have some services that are extremely progressively priced, others that are fucking nuts |
| 08:15.17 | drmessano | I remember 300MB per month DSL |
| 08:15.36 | drmessano | But worldwide free SMS on some phone carriers |
| 08:16.38 | Maliuta | Telstra do some thing that comes with a 200MB data thing, they got in shit because people not using the data were getting excess usage bills from things like ARP spam and network probes |
| 08:16.52 | Maliuta | depends on the provider |
| 08:17.02 | Maliuta | most try to anally rape you |
| 08:18.09 | drmessano | I made a trip down there years ago.. had PC parts shipped so I could build them a workstation on the cheap.. Even had a Router shipped because it was 1/5 the price.. got them set up on DSL.. and we worked out that with the bandwidth we had on IRC, we would be using 1/2 of their 150MB allotment lol |
| 08:18.26 | drmessano | Funny stugg |
| 08:18.29 | drmessano | stuff |
| 08:18.38 | Maliuta | import duty can be a bitch |
| 08:19.10 | Maliuta | I was considering buying a notebook in canada, getting it shipped to my parents and the on-shipped to me |
| 08:19.33 | Maliuta | was going to be cheaper coming in marked "gift", even with shipping charges |
| 08:20.02 | drmessano | I have a few CD's I want to get from there, but it's too damn expensive to get them from even Amazon due to import |
| 08:20.20 | Maliuta | what do you want? |
| 08:20.59 | drmessano | I think I am like 3 CD's behind on Powderfinger |
| 08:21.11 | Maliuta | they're a Brissy band |
| 08:21.25 | Maliuta | I can probably get them cheap |
| 08:22.17 | Maliuta | max would be like $30AU |
| 08:22.38 | drmessano | Internationalist is $42.99 USD from Amazon LOL |
| 08:22.50 | Maliuta | that's way old |
| 08:23.05 | drmessano | I know |
| 08:23.08 | drmessano | I have the 4 first |
| 08:23.17 | Maliuta | give me the names of the albums you want and I'll keep an eye out |
| 08:23.27 | Maliuta | JB often have them really cheap |
| 08:23.55 | drmessano | Greatest Hits or Best Of, whatever it is.. Vulture Street, and I think there's a live one which I don't know the name of |
| 08:24.17 | drmessano | Damn |
| 08:24.20 | Maliuta | Vulture Street is even older than Internationalist |
| 08:24.35 | drmessano | Naah.. it's the one past O#5 |
| 08:24.45 | Maliuta | they shot alot of clips around the vulture street area too |
| 08:25.15 | drmessano | Vulture Street, then the Best Of, then the Live one, and I see another one Dream Days at the Hotel Existence |
| 08:25.27 | drmessano | I am like half behind on their catalog lol |
| 08:26.08 | Maliuta | http://www.powderfinger.com/site.php#releases |
| 08:26.31 | Maliuta | I'll see whats around when I am out and about |
| 08:27.21 | drmessano | I saw them at their last show of the Fables of the Reconstruction tour in Nov 2001.. Awesome, Awesome live show |
| 08:27.41 | Maliuta | I got over them before they got big |
| 08:27.50 | Maliuta | I used to go to alot of gigs here |
| 08:27.55 | Maliuta | and they are a local band |
| 08:28.06 | Maliuta | kind of like the whole George experience |
| 08:28.43 | drmessano | I think they're billed as being a much better band than they really are.. but I like them either way.. |
| 08:29.04 | Maliuta | they're no KMFDM or VNV |
| 08:29.06 | Maliuta | :) |
| 08:29.09 | drmessano | heh |
| 08:29.51 | drmessano | They would easily get lost in a lot of american music |
| 08:30.13 | Maliuta | the live scene here in Brisbane is pretty good |
| 08:30.16 | drmessano | I can see why they never got big here.. didn't offer much kids weren't getting from 100 other bands |
| 08:30.22 | Maliuta | alot of deserving bands dont' make it |
| 08:30.59 | drmessano | If I could figure out how to fly there for less than $2000 again, I would love to go back lol |
| 08:31.41 | Maliuta | I'd like to go see my parents, but those flights are too expensive too |
| 08:34.15 | Maliuta | and then a Whitlams song comes on that reminds me why I like them so much |
| 08:38.01 | drmessano | Im trying to calculate a trip to AU |
| 08:38.30 | drmessano | wow |
| 08:38.34 | drmessano | $1100 isn't bad |
| 08:39.22 | drmessano | Thats flying from Augustas little podunk airport too |
| 08:39.30 | drmessano | I'll try Atlanta |
| 08:39.34 | Maliuta | where to in .au? |
| 08:39.46 | drmessano | Melbourne, since I was familiar with the rates |
| 08:39.56 | drmessano | When I flew it was $1800 |
| 08:40.11 | Maliuta | Melbourne is alright to visit, Sydney is hole. Brisbane and South east Queensland are the best places to go |
| 08:40.17 | drmessano | Only cost me an extra $80 to fly out of Augustas little airport |
| 08:40.49 | drmessano | Shaved $130 USD off by flying from Atlanta |
| 08:40.52 | drmessano | Oh hang on |
| 08:41.12 | drmessano | That was TWO adults |
| 08:41.17 | Maliuta | feck |
| 08:41.43 | Maliuta | I can't get those rates ... it's ~$1500AU/person to canadia |
| 08:42.58 | drmessano | Oh NM |
| 08:42.58 | drmessano | The chart was per person |
| 08:42.58 | drmessano | So $1100 USD |
| 08:42.58 | drmessano | I was gonna say |
| 08:43.57 | Maliuta | and that's to Hellbourne |
| 08:44.05 | Maliuta | is glad he got out of there |
| 08:44.07 | drmessano | lol |
| 08:44.14 | drmessano | I didnt think it was so bad |
| 08:44.27 | Maliuta | it's alright to visit, you don't want to live there |
| 08:44.40 | drmessano | What makes it suck? |
| 08:44.41 | Maliuta | compared to Brisbane the people are uptight wankers |
| 08:44.48 | Maliuta | the weather blows goats |
| 08:45.03 | drmessano | wow |
| 08:45.06 | Maliuta | it's a PITA to get around |
| 08:45.48 | drmessano | If Melbourne is uptight, I can imagine Brisbane.. I thought the people in Melbourne were 100x less uptight than people here lol |
| 08:45.54 | Maliuta | I have lived all over .au and Brisbane is the best place to live. Superior in terms of weather, lifestyle, people .... |
| 08:46.34 | Maliuta | Brisbane is a pretty laid back place, you can actually make friends by talking to someone at the bar or in a club |
| 08:46.40 | Maliuta | imagine that |
| 08:46.49 | drmessano | Without fighting them? |
| 08:47.25 | drmessano | or them kicking your ass because you talked to them in a bar, so you must be a poofta? |
| 08:47.45 | Maliuta | something like that |
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| 08:48.02 | drmessano | Thats pretty much what its like around here |
| 08:48.10 | Maliuta | in melb I stopped getting the tram into town when I went clubbing after I had a bad experience one night |
| 08:48.46 | Maliuta | because skinny guys in leather pants, big leather jackets and white face _must_ be gay. Not Goths at all |
| 08:48.55 | Maliuta | stupid fucking wankers |
| 08:49.42 | drmessano | Oh god |
| 08:49.50 | drmessano | You should live in the Southern US |
| 08:50.02 | drmessano | You wanna talk about intolerant |
| 08:50.04 | drmessano | No |
| 08:50.06 | Maliuta | at least there I could carry a gun |
| 08:50.08 | drmessano | Ignorant |
| 08:50.15 | Maliuta | then they become tollerant |
| 08:50.29 | drmessano | Around here, you rack a shotgun.. they rack back |
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| 09:03.07 | jblack | bitches and swears at ztdummy |
| 09:04.19 | Maliuta | jesus and ninjas man! |
| 09:05.16 | jblack | yeah. something like that |
| 09:06.14 | Maliuta | Where is that pizza ... it supposedly left the store ages ago |
| 09:06.38 | Maliuta | damn lying netordering thing |
| 09:07.16 | jblack | maybe the pizza dude stopped to smoke a joint. |
| 09:07.39 | drmessano | Maybe a Dingo ate him |
| 09:07.47 | drmessano | Dingo got me pizza-guy |
| 09:07.59 | Maliuta | more problems with the emu's 'round ere |
| 09:08.36 | Maliuta | damn things peck at you through the car windows |
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| 09:08.48 | Maliuta | and damn me if they can't run fast |
| 09:09.04 | schorpp | http://www.ip-phone-forum.de is down ??? |
| 09:09.13 | Maliuta | could be |
| 09:09.22 | schorpp | :'( |
| 09:09.43 | drmessano | oh god |
| 09:09.51 | schorpp | ^^ |
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| 09:55.09 | jblack | Getting ztdummy.ko is proving to be a serious pain in the rear. |
| 09:58.02 | jblack | I'm trying to do this on a linode box, which doesn't have PCI. Module-assistant insists upon unpacking the source package fresh each time it builds, so it keeps hitting drivers that are pci cards. |
| 10:02.53 | jblack | There's a thought. Let's just apt-get source zaptel, and run make menuconfig. =) |
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| 10:21.02 | tzafrir_laptop | jblack, you run it as root? |
| 10:22.08 | tzafrir_laptop | what happens if you unpack /usr/src/zaptel.tar.bz2 on your own? |
| 10:22.21 | tzafrir_laptop | What exactly are you trying to change? |
| 10:23.17 | tzafrir_laptop | jblack, also: what version of zaptel do you need? |
| 10:24.20 | jblack | Oh, I'm good to go. |
| 10:24.45 | jblack | I just did an apt-get source zaptel, and built that way. |
| 10:25.21 | jblack | But the problem I had was that m-h for zaptel-source builds all the modules. Some of the modules don't make sense for the kernel I'm using and bomb out, as there's no pci subsystem. |
| 10:41.08 | tzafrir_laptop | jblack, why do those modules load? |
| 10:41.27 | tzafrir_laptop | that is: why do you try to load them? |
| 10:41.48 | tzafrir_laptop | also, what do you mean by "bomb out"? any module panics in such a case? |
| 10:42.01 | tzafrir_laptop | grep MODULES /etc/default/zaptel |
| 10:42.37 | tzafrir_laptop | get MODULES set to either an "" or even "ztdummy" |
| 10:43.16 | jblack | why are those modules trying to build? because module_assistant was trying to build them. It's a distro thing. |
| 10:43.39 | jblack | module-assistant is a debian tool that builds modules for kernels independantly of the kernel. |
| 10:48.14 | jblack | In simpler terms, building ztdummy via debian's module-assistant on xen domU virtual machines is broken, so instead do an apt-get source zaptel, and use the zaptel menuconfig to do a local manual install |
| 10:48.48 | oilinki3 | senores. what does the 'hangup' do in the dialplans? I mean is that needed for simple configuration or just nice to have? |
| 10:49.02 | jblack | It's just nice to have. |
| 10:49.21 | oilinki3 | jblack: thanks. then I can leave it off |
| 10:49.36 | jblack | It can be necessary if you don't have automatic hangup turned on, but that's the default I think. |
| 10:51.01 | oilinki3 | dialplan just looks more clear without those lines |
| 11:11.39 | jblack | I almost have this meetme ready to use |
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| 11:17.02 | jblack | anyone have a sip client handy? |
| 11:17.24 | Raffles666 | for? |
| 11:17.40 | jblack | I'm working on setting up a conference for the channel |
| 11:18.19 | Raffles666 | u want me to install x-lite? |
| 11:18.24 | jblack | nah. |
| 11:18.36 | jblack | I'll do it later, when more people are on. |
| 11:18.56 | Raffles666 | k |
| 11:19.04 | Raffles666 | i could do yebeam as well if u want |
| 11:19.08 | Raffles666 | eyebeam |
| 11:19.26 | Raffles666 | and y not a IAX client? |
| 11:19.26 | jblack | If you like. sip://asterisk.linuxguru.net |
| 11:19.42 | jblack | iax2/asterisk.linuxguru.net should work as well |
| 11:20.39 | Raffles666 | i'm on my crappy xp box at the moment - i'll dig out my memory stick (all my asterisk sstuff is on it) and set some clients up fro you |
| 11:20.56 | jblack | That's too much effort. |
| 11:21.04 | Raffles666 | not for me |
| 11:21.13 | jblack | Ok, if you like |
| 11:21.23 | Raffles666 | is bored u c |
| 11:21.34 | jblack | why do you think I'm setting up a conference? I'm bored too. |
| 11:21.40 | Raffles666 | lol |
| 11:23.52 | jblack | mcd run. Be back in 15. |
| 11:24.02 | Raffles666 | k |
| 11:36.04 | jblack | back |
| 11:52.56 | hi365 | does asterisk 1.4 include any native fax detection apps, or is it nesesary to use something like nv_fax_detect? |
| 11:53.12 | jblack | still not native |
| 11:53.29 | hi365 | jblack: was that for me? |
| 11:53.36 | jblack | yup |
| 11:54.01 | hi365 | thanks. do you have any recomendations as to which app to use (for fax detection)? |
| 11:54.48 | jblack | asterisk-app-fax, I suppose. |
| 11:55.47 | hi365 | hmm, that seems to be a debian packacage. what asterisk app is in there? |
| 11:56.06 | jblack | mostly rxfax and txfax |
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| 11:56.58 | hi365 | arrg! i tried rx_fax at one point but it kept on crashing my server. hylafax seesm to be working smoothly - ide just rather use one did/extension and have voice and fax routed automaticaly |
| 11:57.19 | jblack | I was able to receive faxes with asterisk-app-fax, but it was kinda spotty. |
| 11:57.47 | hi365 | i dont need to recive faxes with it - just need to detect. i guess ill have to dig up nv_fax_detect |
| 11:58.37 | jblack | that's getting hard to find, I think |
| 11:59.03 | hi365 | wonders why asterisk doesnt support faxing nativly |
| 11:59.52 | jblack | someone wrote fax support. Digium refused to accept it unless the author would give a non-exclusive copyright assignment. |
| 12:00.04 | jblack | That caused the callweaver fork. |
| 12:00.22 | hi365 | so proper faxinf support in asterisk is DOA? |
| 12:00.36 | jblack | someone will do it eventually. |
| 12:00.51 | jblack | Most of the developers seem to think faxing is archaic, and pointless. |
| 12:01.14 | jblack | because everyone has computers, scanners and internet. :P |
| 12:02.03 | hi365 | what are the faxdetect setting for zapata.conf (If asterisk doesnt use them anyway...)? |
| 12:02.28 | jblack | zap might have fax detect. I don't know |
| 12:02.41 | jblack | sip and iax certainly don't. |
| 12:04.55 | hi365 | "... If your fax calls come in exclusively through PSTN lines, you do not need NVFax, just use Zaptel for fax detection..." |
| 12:04.59 | hi365 | is confused |
| 12:05.03 | hi365 | http://blogtech.oc9.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&catid=4:asterisk&id=77:20071121ast&Itemid=6 |
| 12:06.06 | jblack | I don't have zaptel here. I'm not a good one to ask. |
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| 13:51.02 | irieKEN | Does anyone know if there is a way to specify gain settings for zap channels in Asterisk GUI? Asterisk GUI keeps appending changes that I make to the zapata.conf file. |
| 13:52.16 | tzafrir_laptop | irieKEN, what version of the asterisk-gui? |
| 13:52.55 | tzafrir_laptop | jblack, still here? |
| 13:54.04 | tzafrir_laptop | jblack, BTW: 1.6.0 has app_fax |
| 13:54.19 | irieKEN | tzafrir_laptop: The second to most recent version that came with the AA50. |
| 13:55.39 | tzafrir_laptop | Does the system have a program called zapscan? ztscan? |
| 13:56.31 | irieKEN | tzafrir_laptop: yes, it does. |
| 13:56.42 | irieKEN | tzafrir_laptop: zapscan. |
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| 14:16.40 | tzafrir_laptop | irieKEN, if it is zapscan it's not that ancient |
| 14:17.27 | tzafrir_laptop | irieKEN, I figure it would be in users.conf instead of in zapata.conf |
| 14:17.35 | tzafrir_laptop | edit /etc/asteris/users.conf |
| 14:18.00 | tzafrir_laptop | The format there is nicer than zapata.conf: a specific section for each channel so you don't have to guess |
| 14:18.18 | tzafrir_laptop | what zap channels (and devices) do you have? |
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| 15:09.52 | Vinconzo | hi |
| 15:11.13 | Vinconzo | i've seen AsterFax, but is there any way i can connect a fax-machine to an Asterisk box to fax over the internet, using some kind of SIP protocol? |
| 15:14.51 | Vinconzo | the idea would probably be the exact opposite of Asterisk's normal pourpose, as this would mean connecting an analog fax to the internet, instead of connecting a computer to an analog network |
| 15:16.13 | Vinconzo | i'm asking this, becouse i have my telephone over a broadband connection, and i really do want a fax |
| 15:17.34 | brodiem | Vinconzo: Don't waste your time, you won't get reliable results.. fax should be kept analog |
| 15:17.48 | [TK]D-Fender | Vinconzo: You would need an ITSP that supports T.38, and to connect your fax to an ATA that also supports it, and pray that the protocols are compatible |
| 15:18.20 | [TK]D-Fender | Vinconzo: Then again.... you could just save lots of time & money and just get an analog line like everyone will advise |
| 15:18.50 | Vinconzo | yeah, but i live with my parents so i'll need to do with the digital line |
| 15:20.18 | defsdoor | scan and email - get with the century! |
| 15:20.30 | [TK]D-Fender | Vinconzo: Well you've heard plan "B". Follow it and pray. You're gonna need it |
| 15:20.39 | Vinconzo | ok |
| 15:21.58 | brodiem | I've once gotten reliable outgoing fax using RTP300 -> Callweaver -> Gafachi, but incoming faxes would cause CW to core dump, and the next release of CW afterwards shattered all of my outbound reliability again.. |
| 15:22.06 | brodiem | using T38 that is |
| 15:23.10 | Alton2 | bleepin' faxes, there is a long history of fax machine producers screwing with the standards to keep their "monopoly" on the "technology". |
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| 15:33.13 | Vinconzo | i just read some more about asterfax |
| 15:33.47 | Vinconzo | wouldn't it be possible to, instead of converting the fax to email, to convert email to fax? |
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| 15:34.47 | brodiem | Vinconzo: Yes, I did w/ iaxmodem+hylafax |
| 15:35.28 | Vinconzo | ok |
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| 15:37.13 | [TK]D-Fender | brodiem: other way around... |
| 15:37.19 | [TK]D-Fender | broHIM email out.... |
| 15:37.46 | brodiem | [TK]D-Fender: yeah, it was using hyla as the client end |
| 15:37.54 | brodiem | and some MIME tools to pull out the attachment from the e-mail |
| 15:38.33 | [TK]D-Fender | brodiem: Yes, I know how Hylafax & connectors can do it, its that he can't be doing the outbound conversion on HIS END |
| 15:39.45 | brodiem | is still stunned |
| 15:40.01 | brodiem | I'm going to make coffee |
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| 15:48.04 | jaytee | mmmm, coffee! yeah, I could use another cup |
| 15:51.06 | lesouvage | Isn't it time that the Asterisk community takes action to preserve the Asterisk forum. With hunderds of spam messages a day the forum will become useless in short time. |
| 15:51.34 | jeev | fender bender |
| 15:55.54 | lesouvage | Am I the only one who worries about what is happening with the Asterisk forum? |
| 15:56.34 | [TK]D-Fender | lesouvage: You and that other crazy guy, and the guy who is posting spam messages hoping to phish off of both of you ;) |
| 16:00.23 | lesouvage | [TK]D-Fender: who is the other crazy guy? What I know for sure is that it looks very bad if some one with a starting interest for Asterisk find the forum in the state it is now. And years of questions and answers are flushed to the drain this way. |
| 16:00.57 | [TK]D-Fender | lesouvage: Take it up with a moderator |
| 16:02.21 | file | stuff is being done to stop it... but it does take time |
| 16:03.39 | jeev | file, where is russellb |
| 16:03.48 | file | ...at home? |
| 16:04.07 | jeev | it's sunday! bastards |
| 16:04.11 | jeev | people should be on irc!! |
| 16:04.19 | file | it's that crazy having a life thing |
| 16:04.27 | jeev | ahh, yea.. we'll neverk now |
| 16:04.35 | lesouvage | There seem to be no moderator. I run the Dutch Asterisk forum and I know what spam is and can do for a forum. My suggestion is to moderate the membership. I only accept new members after they send me an sms with user name. |
| 16:04.45 | DarKnesS_WolF | i have a strange problem , sip phone behind nat works fine and so on asterisk on the public IP 1.2.x when i log into the voice mail i find that the dtmf is missed up our it got sent twice or it got lost a little bit |
| 16:04.49 | DarKnesS_WolF | any ideas? |
| 16:04.50 | DarKnesS_WolF | what might be ? |
| 16:04.53 | jeev | lesouvage, not everyone wants to share their #'s |
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| 16:05.47 | lesouvage | jeev: what do you mean with #'s |
| 16:05.52 | jeev | their phone numbers |
| 16:05.56 | jeev | some people dont want to share their phone numbers |
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| 16:07.23 | lesouvage | jeev: the whole idea is to have at least something that links the new member with something that can be checked if needed. |
| 16:08.08 | DarKnesS_WolF | the strange thing that i just connect to * using g729 and i feel i am eating alll the connection :-s |
| 16:09.34 | ManxPower | DarKnesS_WolF: That's a classic "inband DTMF with compressed codec" symptom |
| 16:11.15 | riddlebox | wow the forums are horrible with spam |
| 16:11.40 | DarKnesS_WolF | ManxPower: how to fix ? |
| 16:11.42 | riddlebox | i wonder if digium can make a new user verify with email |
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| 16:13.42 | DarKnesS_WolF | oh here comes russellb :) |
| 16:13.53 | DarKnesS_WolF | jeev: seems that life thing didn't work out :P |
| 16:16.02 | jeev | russellb. |
| 16:16.10 | russellb | hides |
| 16:16.15 | jeev | 5 minutes ago, file asid you had a life... then you shattered your life |
| 16:16.18 | jeev | and came on irc |
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| 16:17.58 | knarfly | I just built a Fedora 9 server with *-1.4.21.2. The echo test works fine but when I play the moh extension there is only silence. tcpdump show packets galore going to the phone but nothing comes out of the speaker |
| 16:18.04 | tzafrir_laptop | wonders if file has life |
| 16:18.45 | DarKnesS_WolF | tzafrir_laptop: no one does |
| 16:18.49 | russellb | file is an anagram of life, so that must count for something |
| 16:19.28 | tzafrir_laptop | So unlike most of us, he has a life. Slightly mixed up, though ;-) |
| 16:20.04 | DarKnesS_WolF | ah ic :D |
| 16:20.15 | DarKnesS_WolF | ManxPower: no i don't think it is DTMF issue |
| 16:20.51 | riddlebox | my god every time I go to the forums theres more spam, I wonder if someone will give me mods, so I can clean this up!! |
| 16:21.05 | jeev | i should get moderator |
| 16:21.09 | jeev | and force people to help me |
| 16:21.14 | knarfly | okay here's a good one...if you drop a piece of buttered toast it always lands buttered side down...if you drop a cat it always lands on it's feet...so what would happen if you tied a piece of buttered toast to a cat's back, butter side up and dropped it..... ? |
| 16:21.14 | DarKnesS_WolF | ok so i ping the astetrisk box it is like 87.0 ms i just start the call " G729 / GSM " and the ping becomes 3000 ms , some time 7000 ms |
| 16:21.24 | DarKnesS_WolF | russellb: any idea what might be the problem ? |
| 16:22.08 | knarfly | riddlebox: let's launch an attack to those *&$^% viagra sales people.... |
| 16:22.15 | jaytee | knarfly, ummmm way too much free time on your hands I think. |
| 16:22.20 | ManxPower | riddlebox: maybe you should consider the mailing lists instead of "forums" |
| 16:22.45 | riddlebox | knarfly, I dont know why they just keep posting over and over |
| 16:23.25 | knarfly | what's worse is the moderator is not around to clean up this mess...who's minding the store? |
| 16:23.28 | riddlebox | ManxPower, yeah I need to sign up for the mailing lists, but a lot of people go to the forums for help and i like reading everything |
| 16:23.32 | ManxPower | knarfly: try asking on the mailing lists. |
| 16:23.47 | ManxPower | riddlebox: the only people that use the forums are the ones that don't know anything. |
| 16:24.06 | knarfly | ManxPower: welll now I wouldn't say that? |
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| 16:24.14 | tzafrir_laptop | DarKnesS_WolF, for starters, have you verified you don't use inband DTMFs there? |
| 16:24.26 | ManxPower | At least with e-mail it can be automatically filtered for you. |
| 16:24.55 | ManxPower | tzafrir_laptop: "(11:20:14 AM) DarKnesS_WolF: ManxPower: no i don't think it is DTMF issue" With an attitude like that I decided to not help him. |
| 16:25.02 | riddlebox | ManxPower, hrmmm I know I dont know much, but I like to read the posts and answer once in a while |
| 16:25.12 | knarfly | yes but the forum has been a great source of solutions for me...it's just a shame right now that some spammer has targeted it and the moderator is off for the weekend |
| 16:25.26 | DarKnesS_WolF | tzafrir_laptop: will check |
| 16:25.33 | riddlebox | its been going on since fridday |
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| 16:26.02 | DarKnesS_WolF | ManxPower: no i appreciate ur help but what i mean is the call eating up allll the bandwidth which i don't think related to DTMF mode |
| 16:26.13 | ManxPower | riddlebox: yes, the mailing lists may be too technical for you. |
| 16:26.23 | riddlebox | ManxPower, ouch |
| 16:26.28 | knarfly | yes and I sent no less than 100 e-mail inquireies to those damn candanian quake doctors telling them to cease and desist? |
| 16:27.29 | ManxPower | DarKnesS_WolF: How much bandwidth do you have going between the SIP device and Asterisk |
| 16:27.45 | riddlebox | I didnt think I was that big of a moron |
| 16:28.14 | knarfly | in chat rooms everyone is a moron until proven a genius |
| 16:28.17 | ManxPower | riddlebox: You do not see the advantages of mailing lists over web forums. That qualifies you. 8-) |
| 16:28.20 | DarKnesS_WolF | ManxPower: mine will be 256K device have 512K all are 1/4 so pretty much should handel at least 1 G729 call |
| 16:28.41 | tzafrir_laptop | DarKnesS_WolF, if you don't use inband DTMF, the DTMFs are sent as some sort of "signalling" |
| 16:28.46 | ManxPower | DarKnesS_WolF: that sentence made no sense. |
| 16:28.57 | riddlebox | ManxPower, I do see the advantages, well maybe I will sign up for the bulk list and just read through it at night |
| 16:29.04 | tzafrir_laptop | No problem "detecting" them even if the quality of the audio is louzy |
| 16:29.10 | ManxPower | ~mailinglist |
| 16:29.11 | jbot | [~mailinglist] The Asterisk mailing lists can be found at http://lists.digium.com , http://www.asteriskguru.com/archives Search the archives by adding "site:lists.digium.com" to your Google search. |
| 16:29.29 | DarKnesS_WolF | ManxPower: look sorry for my english :-) ManxPower ok the connection between me and the box is 256K ADSL |
| 16:29.30 | knarfly | riddlebox: just wait...the moderator will fix it next week....duh! |
| 16:29.44 | riddlebox | lol |
| 16:29.47 | ManxPower | tzafrir_laptop: Maybe he has a PoS router that can't handle streams of many small packets? |
| 16:29.51 | DarKnesS_WolF | tzafrir_laptop: mmmmm |
| 16:30.07 | DarKnesS_WolF | ManxPower: i guess it is router issue also :( |
| 16:30.16 | ManxPower | DarKnesS_WolF: and you are using G729? What was the GSM you mentioned? |
| 16:30.24 | DarKnesS_WolF | ManxPower: i tested with both |
| 16:31.09 | ManxPower | a single GSM call should use around 32K |
| 16:31.20 | ManxPower | Should use LESS THAN 32k |
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| 16:31.32 | ManxPower | a G729 would be less than 25K |
| 16:31.44 | knarfly | later guys...I'm off to buy one of those 500GB HD's at tigerdirect for only $69 |
| 16:31.47 | ManxPower | You do not have a bandwidth issue, if what you said is correct. |
| 16:32.07 | knarfly | 8-) |
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| 16:32.13 | DarKnesS_WolF | ManxPower: i think it is router issue it is like i am dosing the machine |
| 16:32.21 | DarKnesS_WolF | ok wait i'll change the MTU and try |
| 16:32.44 | ManxPower | DarKnesS_WolF: why in the world would you think THAT would make any difference? |
| 16:33.21 | ManxPower | The MTU would only apply for packets larger than the MTU, with SIP you should never run into that. |
| 16:35.27 | ManxPower | DarKnesS_WolF: Ether work WITH or go try to fix the issue on your own. Do NOT do both at the same time. |
| 16:36.09 | ManxPower | The single thing that most tech support hate more than anything else is a user that is asking for help but keeps doing stuff you did not recomment. |
| 16:36.19 | ManxPower | recommend, too. |
| 16:36.48 | ManxPower | So best of luck with your problem and come back when you are ready to accept some help. |
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| 16:47.32 | DarKnesS_WolF | ManxPower: mmmmm ok i work with :) |
| 16:47.57 | DarKnesS_WolF | ManxPower: from where we should start? |
| 16:55.04 | DarKnesS_WolF | ManxPower: what do u think the problem is ? |
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| 17:04.58 | Vinconzo | hi |
| 17:12.40 | Vinconzo | can i connect an analogue phone to my computer using a modem, and use asterix to call over sip or something such sort? |
| 17:13.06 | [TK]D-Fender | Vinconzo: No |
| 17:13.23 | Vinconzo | ok |
| 17:13.37 | [TK]D-Fender | Vinconzo: You need a proper interface for that. Best options are Linksys ATA's |
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| 17:13.44 | Vinconzo | ok |
| 17:14.10 | defsdoor | what's the normal process to install the core and extra asterisk sounds ? |
| 17:14.34 | DarKnesS_WolF | defsdoor: after ./confugre use menu select and select whatever u wants |
| 17:16.32 | Vinconzo | [TK]D-Fender: i see |
| 17:17.22 | Vinconzo | [TK]D-Fender: i just looked at my usual computer-hardware store, but i can only find D-Link and Sitecom stuff |
| 17:17.42 | defsdoor | DarKnesS_WolF: thanks |
| 17:17.45 | Vinconzo | witch is sortof exepensive (past the 25 euro) |
| 17:17.59 | [TK]D-Fender | Vinconzo: You won't FIND this kind of stuff at your average computer store. VoIP is not a consumer-class product |
| 17:18.17 | Vinconzo | [TK]D-Fender: is there any diy type-of-thing? |
| 17:18.29 | [TK]D-Fender | Vinconzo: No/ |
| 17:18.36 | Vinconzo | [TK]D-Fender: where can i find it, then? |
| 17:18.41 | ManxPower | Vinconzo: Expect to spend money if you are going to get into VoIP. |
| 17:18.45 | [TK]D-Fender | Vinconzo: www.telephonydepot.com |
| 17:19.02 | [TK]D-Fender | Vinconzo: Usually online stores. this is a specialty market |
| 17:19.11 | Vinconzo | ah nice |
| 17:19.15 | Vinconzo | american |
| 17:19.26 | [TK]D-Fender | Vinconzo: Just a sample, I know you're in NL. |
| 17:19.34 | Vinconzo | i love dollars, they're half the price |
| 17:19.35 | [TK]D-Fender | Vinconzo: I know one or two in UK / DE |
| 17:19.48 | Vinconzo | ok |
| 17:20.03 | [TK]D-Fender | Vinconzo: Go look for these 2 models : SPA-2102 and PAP2T-NA |
| 17:20.24 | [TK]D-Fender | Vinconzo: And try to find a vendor that is acceptably close to you |
| 17:20.33 | Vinconzo | ok |
| 17:20.46 | DarKnesS_WolF | ManxPower: seems it is a phone configurations i used zoiper / xten and both worked fine with gsm |
| 17:21.16 | DarKnesS_WolF | and sip info as dtmf |
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| 17:21.50 | Vinconzo | but i remember my old (external) modem had two phoneline connections, one fore the phoneline, and one fore the phone, and a serial port for the pc |
| 17:22.17 | Vinconzo | wouldn't this do the same, or am i completely missing out the point of an ATA |
| 17:22.24 | [TK]D-Fender | Vinconzo: FORGET your old modem, it is USELESS with Asterisk. No there is no cheap-ass way of doing this. |
| 17:22.31 | Vinconzo | ok |
| 17:22.38 | Vinconzo | well nm then |
| 17:22.46 | Vinconzo | i dont have a lot of money |
| 17:22.59 | Vinconzo | i'm dutch, and therefore, i prefer freebees |
| 17:23.11 | Vinconzo | sorry to waste your time then |
| 17:23.12 | [TK]D-Fender | Vinconzo: And just because you don't have much money doesn't mean a car dealer is going to give you a Ferrari for 50$ |
| 17:23.37 | Vinconzo | ok |
| 17:23.40 | Vinconzo | anywho |
| 17:23.48 | Vinconzo | g'day m8 |
| 17:23.51 | [TK]D-Fender | Vinconzo>i'm dutch, and therefore, i prefer freebees <- so what you're trying to tell me is that the Dutch are just a bunch of free-loaders? |
| 17:24.05 | DarKnesS_WolF | lol |
| 17:24.09 | Vinconzo | we're known for liking free stuff |
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| 17:24.29 | [TK]D-Fender | Vinconzo: I like free stuff too. I just don't run away when the things I want cost money. |
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| 17:24.34 | Vinconzo | w8 |
| 17:24.59 | [TK]D-Fender | Vinconzo: I like free stuff too. I just don't run away when the things I want cost money. |
| 17:25.18 | Vinconzo | ya i know |
| 17:25.36 | Vinconzo | but there are probably cheaper ways, witch i'd like to try first |
| 17:26.09 | [TK]D-Fender | Vinconzo: And we're the ones with experience who beg to differ |
| 17:26.30 | [TK]D-Fender | Vinconzo: Cheap & desperate are not winning traits in this field |
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| 17:26.58 | ManxPower | Vinconzo: It used to cost US$4,000 for a card to connect to a phone line. Be happy with something that is less than $100 |
| 17:27.01 | [TK]D-Fender | Vinconzo: So yeah, you go on fighting trying to get incompatible junk to work. Good luck with all that. |
| 17:27.02 | Vinconzo | yes, but i really want to try VoIP stuff before i spend money on it, and find i didn't really like it as much as i thought |
| 17:27.34 | ManxPower | Vinconzo: you were not asking about VoIP. You were asking how to connect your computer to a phone line. |
| 17:27.43 | Vinconzo | yes |
| 17:27.59 | [TK]D-Fender | ManxPower: No, actually, he said "phone to computer |
| 17:28.01 | ManxPower | If you want to use ALL VoIP you will not have to purchase hardware. |
| 17:28.03 | [TK]D-Fender | ManxPower: not LINE |
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| 17:28.31 | ManxPower | Download a softphone, connect microphone and speakers, sign up for an ITSP. |
| 17:28.44 | Qwell | ManxPower: costs money |
| 17:29.03 | [TK]D-Fender | Qwell: FWD! |
| 17:29.06 | [TK]D-Fender | Qwell: No wait.... |
| 17:29.08 | [TK]D-Fender | :D |
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| 17:29.18 | Vinconzo | ManxPower: so i cannot connect my old analog telephone to my computer? |
| 17:29.18 | ManxPower | Shouldn't be be called NFWD now? |
| 17:29.36 | [TK]D-Fender | Vinconzo: Yes you can, with a PROPER piece of equipment. |
| 17:29.44 | Vinconzo | i see |
| 17:29.50 | ManxPower | Vinconzo: NO YOU CANNOT DO THAT WITHOUT PURCHASING TELECOM HARDWARE. Everyone here has told you that. At this point you are looking like an idiot because you keep asking that. |
| 17:30.17 | ManxPower | The answer isn't going to change. |
| 17:33.54 | DarKnesS_WolF | ManxPower: thx :-) some how u did help it was a DTMF issue i didn't notice that i am allowing SIP info i just disabled it and the DTMF did work also some how after like one min of the call the ADSL line " internet connection " disconnect not sure what is going on .. the phone is sending lots of packets , or the routered getting DoSed from the phone . also the sound qualty is perfect some how the ping time reacheds 9000 MS on a call with G729 t |
| 17:37.39 | hi365 | ${MONITOR_FILENAME} seems to only let me set the second half of the name...is that how its supposed to be? its not mentioned in channelvarsiables.txt :( |
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| 17:38.35 | [TK]D-Fender | hi365: SHOW US. |
| 17:38.57 | hi365 | [TK]D-Fender: what would you like to see? |
| 17:39.28 | [TK]D-Fender | hi365: pastebin the backup of your dialplan, its EXECUTION and folder dump |
| 17:39.46 | tzafrir_laptop | Vinconzo, you cannot connect a phone to a modem: |
| 17:39.49 | tzafrir_laptop | ~fxsfxo |
| 17:39.50 | jbot | [~fxsfxo] An FXO port expects to receive dialtone and receive ring voltage. You can connect it to a PSTN line from the telco. An FXS port expects to provide dialtone and provide ring voltage. You can connect a phone or a fax to it. |
| 17:41.03 | [TK]D-Fender | tzafrir_laptop: s'ok. He's heard it like 4 times already. If he hasn't gotten the picture then whats the point of 1 more? |
| 17:41.52 | ManxPower | [TK]D-Fender: I call them "arm flappers" as in patient goes to shrink and says "no matter how much a flap my arms I can't fly". |
| 17:42.15 | ManxPower | But the patient keeps trying no matter what anyone else tells him/her. |
| 17:42.38 | [TK]D-Fender | ManxPower: I call them "(expletive deleted) morons" |
| 17:45.05 | [TK]D-Fender | ok, off to enjoy the sunshine for a bit. Back before long... |
| 17:45.26 | DarKnesS_WolF | [TK]D-Fender: have a good one |
| 17:46.36 | DarKnesS_WolF | guys what kind of option in SIP /RTP might cuzing the phone to send i don't know lots of packets which cuzes the router to hang and disconnect ? from a xlite everything perfect from this IP not at all it need some teawkes |
| 17:48.46 | drmessano | DarKnesS_WolF: If something VoIP related is causing your router to hang, fix the router |
| 17:49.03 | DarKnesS_WolF | drmessano: xlite works fine |
| 17:49.15 | DarKnesS_WolF | it only matter of i don't know what in the phone needs to get disabled |
| 17:49.30 | DarKnesS_WolF | i find there is ToS on the phone not sure also what it is reading the help |
| 17:49.55 | drmessano | DarKnesS_WolF: Are you kidding me? |
| 17:49.56 | ManxPower | DarKnesS_WolF: we don't know what on the phone needs to be disabled either. |
| 17:50.11 | ManxPower | In fact, I doubt there is anything you can do on the phone to fix the issue. |
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| 17:50.42 | drmessano | If an OPTION on a PHONE is causing your router to lock up, which I doubt, your router is a POS |
| 17:50.52 | drmessano | Needs a firmware update or a trash can |
| 17:51.13 | ManxPower | drmessano: I'll bet the problem is not the router, but the DSL/Cable modem. |
| 17:51.15 | DarKnesS_WolF | ManxPower: yes i know u don't no body knows :) my question is there somehting like controling the RTP streaming ? |
| 17:51.28 | ManxPower | DarKnesS_WolF: no there is not. |
| 17:51.47 | DarKnesS_WolF | ManxPower: it is a boradband thing speedtouch / router + adsl modem |
| 17:51.53 | DarKnesS_WolF | ManxPower: mmm ok thx |
| 17:51.57 | drmessano | ManxPower: Dunno.. But DarKnesS_WolF is completely missing the point |
| 17:52.39 | ManxPower | drmessano: He just doesn't like the answer, that's all. |
| 17:52.50 | drmessano | ManxPower: Completely ignoring the fact that a phone is "causing" his router to lockup, which should be scaring the crap out of him about the router, not "OMG, need to get this phone fixed" |
| 17:52.51 | ManxPower | Another AF (arm flapper) |
| 17:52.53 | DarKnesS_WolF | drmessano: my laptop which running xlite is in the same network with the ip phone ,,, the ip phone kills the connections the xlite not. |
| 17:53.01 | DarKnesS_WolF | ManxPower: no it is not like that i just not understand |
| 17:53.12 | drmessano | DarKnesS_WolF: Thats shitty troubleshooting |
| 17:53.24 | drmessano | A router should NEVER lock up because of ANY computer or device |
| 17:53.25 | DarKnesS_WolF | drmessano: ok from where i should start? |
| 17:53.25 | drmessano | EVER |
| 17:53.31 | drmessano | FIX THE ROUTER |
| 17:53.37 | ManxPower | DarKnesS_WolF: I have never, in the 5.5 years of working with Asterisk and VoIP, heard of the problem you are having. |
| 17:53.45 | drmessano | __ROUTER__ |
| 17:54.00 | ManxPower | drmessano: He can't, it is provided by his ISP. |
| 17:54.10 | drmessano | Get them to upgrade it, replace it |
| 17:54.20 | ManxPower | drmessano: but that's too much work! |
| 17:54.22 | drmessano | or blame the phone and throw it away, cause yeah |
| 17:54.27 | DarKnesS_WolF | ManxPower: in egypt u hear alot of crazy thing thx to our ISP my phone was losing the registration after 10 secs. cuz they moved to pppoe after pppoa and they coudn't implement it right |
| 17:54.38 | ManxPower | drmessano: notice how he never mentioned what actual phone he has? |
| 17:54.39 | DarKnesS_WolF | drmessano: ManxPower by the way i upgraded / downgraded / changed the router firmware same shit |
| 17:54.50 | DarKnesS_WolF | ManxPower: snom 370 |
| 17:55.08 | ManxPower | DarKnesS_WolF: Thousands of people use that phone with Asterisk with no problems |
| 17:55.24 | drmessano | This is why not everyone should be doing networking |
| 17:55.25 | DarKnesS_WolF | yes i know |
| 17:55.49 | DarKnesS_WolF | drmessano: will change the router and see what will happen |
| 17:55.56 | drmessano | A router should not lock up because of something behind it |
| 17:55.57 | drmessano | EVER |
| 17:56.23 | ManxPower | drmessano: I'll bet they are retransmits with reinvites. |
| 17:56.51 | ManxPower | DarKnesS_WolF: try adding canreinvite=no to each of the the sip.conf entries. |
| 17:56.53 | ManxPower | then do a reload |
| 17:56.57 | DarKnesS_WolF | mmm ManxPower how can i check that ? |
| 17:57.02 | DarKnesS_WolF | ManxPower: it is already there |
| 17:57.02 | drmessano | It's probable that the router isn't handling the complexities of SIP/RTP well.. some don't |
| 17:57.05 | DarKnesS_WolF | and nat=yes |
| 17:57.15 | DarKnesS_WolF | ManxPower: and i am only calling the voicemailmain application |
| 17:57.25 | DarKnesS_WolF | look to the ping time before i start the call and after i start the call |
| 17:57.31 | DarKnesS_WolF | 85.4 |
| 17:57.37 | DarKnesS_WolF | 271 |
| 17:57.40 | ManxPower | DarKnesS_WolF: I guess now you must contact SNOM support. |
| 17:57.40 | DarKnesS_WolF | then jumps |
| 17:57.44 | DarKnesS_WolF | 9276 |
| 17:57.53 | drmessano | Yes |
| 17:57.56 | ManxPower | DarKnesS_WolF: ping times mean nothing to us. |
| 17:58.05 | DarKnesS_WolF | after 1 min the internet goes down. |
| 17:58.13 | drmessano | That would be the router going ZOMGWTF and buckling under the confusion of a protocol it can't handle well |
| 17:58.31 | drmessano | Much like a few routers I have dealt with that couldnt handle bittorrent |
| 17:59.28 | DarKnesS_WolF | mmmm |
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| 18:03.02 | hi365 | User hit '*1' to record call. filename: WAV|auto-1219600823-22020080824-210006-1219600806.708|m <---- what does the m option mean? |
| 18:03.34 | DarKnesS_WolF | hi365: |
| 18:03.43 | DarKnesS_WolF | core show application mixmonitor |
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| 18:32.03 | mltlnx | I have a strange problem that no one has been able to figure out: I have a channel bank connected to a Sangoma card. When I issue a wanrouter stop or wanrouter start every fxs on the channel bank rings. I have spoken with Sangoma and also the channel bank manufacturer and neither have heard of this. Anyone care to guess? |
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| 18:34.04 | aliver | is there a CLI way I can ask asterisk where it's going to look for files that I Playback() ? |
| 18:35.52 | mltlnx | Well wouldn't it be /var/lib/asterisk/sounds? unless it is specified by an absolute path in the dialplan? |
| 18:36.24 | Qwell | mltlnx: peculiar |
| 18:36.56 | Qwell | T1 channelbank? |
| 18:38.15 | mltlnx | yes it is an adit 600 (CAC) |
| 18:38.56 | Qwell | sounds like the T1 card is telling it to ring.. |
| 18:39.35 | mltlnx | Qwell: Is there anyway to debug this? |
| 18:39.38 | Qwell | get your vendor on the line, and have them tell you what it's sending |
| 18:39.42 | Qwell | (and why) |
| 18:40.49 | Qwell | channel banks don't just ring when they come up |
| 18:41.33 | mltlnx | For sure, we have another identical setup on the bench and we can not replicate it ourselves. Sangoma told us the same. |
| 18:41.55 | mltlnx | This happens when they come up or down. |
| 18:41.55 | Qwell | tell them to look at the trace and see what's going on |
| 18:42.19 | Qwell | T1 or PRI? |
| 18:42.26 | mltlnx | T1 |
| 18:42.26 | Qwell | (I can't imagine it would be PRI) |
| 18:42.41 | [TK]D-Fender | mltlnx: Got another card that doesn't do this laying around? |
| 18:42.57 | mltlnx | Could this be a weird combo of sangoma/zaptel. |
| 18:42.59 | Qwell | I'd say it's about 80% your card |
| 18:43.20 | mltlnx | We have a 4 port and a 2 port in that box and they both do it. |
| 18:43.25 | Qwell | wtf |
| 18:43.39 | Qwell | so there goes the 80% |
| 18:44.05 | Qwell | so all 6 ports do it with different channelbanks? |
| 18:44.11 | mltlnx | It has to be something with Sangoma/zaptel drivers. |
| 18:44.20 | Qwell | narrow it down a little.. |
| 18:45.07 | Qwell | how many ports does an adit 600 have? |
| 18:45.37 | Qwell | 48.. |
| 18:45.52 | Qwell | so this happens with 2 different cards and 3 different channel banks? |
| 18:46.06 | mltlnx | Well...We have two channel banks(each take 2 Ts). |
| 18:46.27 | Qwell | okay, so both of those have it happen, no matter the card/port? |
| 18:46.35 | mltlnx | Its 2 channel bank using 4 Ts across 2 different cards. |
| 18:46.43 | Qwell | funky |
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| 18:47.08 | mltlnx | Regardless of port and card....Strange indeed. |
| 18:47.10 | Qwell | I'd get sangoma back on the line and make them figure it out |
| 18:47.25 | mltlnx | For sure! |
| 18:47.55 | Qwell | adits are all auto-config, right? |
| 18:48.04 | Qwell | at least for the channel bank parts |
| 18:49.37 | mltlnx | also when did zapata.conf require hardhdlc= as opposed to dchan= ? |
| 18:49.45 | Qwell | that's for PRI |
| 18:50.08 | Qwell | and...I don't know. whenever sangoma changed their drivers to require it |
| 18:50.27 | mltlnx | yes i know. We have those as well. |
| 18:50.46 | Qwell | within the last release or two I think |
| 18:50.48 | jaytee | I think that first started popping up in here about a month ago |
| 18:50.57 | Qwell | their release, not zaptel/asterisk |
| 18:51.03 | jaytee | yes |
| 18:51.17 | aliver | what does the "?124:126" at the end of this line mean? "exten => _7XX,123,gotoif($[${LEN(${CALLERID(num)})} = 3]?124:126)" |
| 18:51.21 | mltlnx | This is a Sangoma requirement and not a zaptel issue? |
| 18:51.26 | Qwell | mltlnx: yes |
| 18:51.46 | mltlnx | goto 124 if the cid = 3 else goto 126 |
| 18:51.48 | Qwell | though they'll put the blame on us for adding support for hardhdlc :) |
| 18:52.01 | mltlnx | Qwell: Thanks! |
| 18:52.17 | Qwell | it's buried in their FAQ somewhere |
| 18:59.43 | mgroman | Hi |
| 19:00.25 | DarKnesS_WolF | damn tihs router |
| 19:00.26 | DarKnesS_WolF | no more work for me |
| 19:00.29 | DarKnesS_WolF | good night guys |
| 19:02.04 | mgroman | nite2u |
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| 19:05.38 | mgroman | For a very simple IVR, is this zaptel.conf correct for a TDM410 card with 2 fxo modules in ports 3 and 4? -> http://www.pastebin.ca/1183620 |
| 19:05.49 | drmessano | Anyone using Pennytel outside of AU? |
| 19:06.37 | jaytee | mgroman, looks alright |
| 19:06.51 | mgroman | jaytee thank you, wasnt sure if i needed to declare all signalling on one line |
| 19:07.15 | jaytee | you could do fxsks=3,4 |
| 19:07.48 | mgroman | jaytee: same for zapata.conf? (assuming both lines serve same purpose) |
| 19:09.04 | [TK]D-Fender | mgroman: Formatted properly yes you can declare multiple ports on the same line (assuming you want them to share the same characteristics |
| 19:09.06 | jaytee | for zapata conf just set context= whatever context your IVR is in. |
| 19:09.44 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: A classified ad I'm probably about to win out on : http://montreal.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sell-cameras-camcorders-Minolta-Maxxum-7000-Film-SLR-35mm-W0QQAdIdZ70127750 |
| 19:09.52 | mgroman | and ignore the channel directive? cool thanks |
| 19:11.15 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: I'll sell off the base, flashes, 50mm, and keep the rest. All but certainly make a profit on it in the process :) |
| 19:12.27 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: And from what I've been told in response from the guy that is the renowned Minolta "Beercan" F4 70-210. It's a great find if I get it. |
| 19:14.16 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender, so keep the 35-70, the 70-210 and the case? |
| 19:14.25 | jaytee | or just the two lenses |
| 19:15.53 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: 35-70, 70-210, 28mm prime (woohoo), and I'm not sure if the bag is included. |
| 19:16.19 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: 4 lenses in the bundle. I'd keep 2, sell 2 and the camera itself. |
| 19:17.30 | [TK]D-Fender | Sorry, keep 3, sell the 50mm, resel my 70-210 F4.5 I got last week and the 50mm IT came along with as well. |
| 19:18.06 | *** join/#asterisk CBlo (n=opera@brln-4db80cb3.pool.einsundeins.de) |
| 19:19.10 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: the 50mm's go for about $100 each. and I'm sure I can net 50$ for the camera itself & flashes, and at least $70 for the F4.5 |
| 19:19.25 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: This is becoming a PROFITABLE hobby :) |
| 19:19.39 | [TK]D-Fender | loves his Sony A200 |
| 19:21.01 | CBlo | Could anybody help me with a Callfile problem? |
| 19:21.27 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender's Used Cameras and Asterisk Consulting ****** Great prices on used photo equipment and great rates on VOIP consulting/integration http:www.tkfender.com |
| 19:22.14 | [TK]D-Fender | CBlo: With some real information perhaps... |
| 19:22.18 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: :D |
| 19:22.23 | jaytee | that and a good VOIP blog with ad revenue from Polycom and other VOIP vendors whose products you "endorse" |
| 19:22.39 | jaytee | little bit of work for some passive income |
| 19:22.41 | CBlo | I let create them in /var/tmp by the dialplan (extensions.conf). The last extension should move the callfile from /var/tmp to /var/spool/asterisk/outgoing/, but it doesn't. |
| 19:22.45 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: You know, I SHOULD ask for $$ from Polycom :) |
| 19:22.58 | CBlo | If I move the *.call-Files manually to spool/..., they work fine. |
| 19:23.04 | CBlo | Where should I search for the problem? |
| 19:23.11 | [TK]D-Fender | CBlo: PASTEBIN is your friend |
| 19:23.12 | [TK]D-Fender | ~pb |
| 19:23.13 | jbot | [~pb] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste |
| 19:23.15 | [TK]D-Fender | ^^^^^^^^^^ |
| 19:23.19 | jaytee | is it unethical for you to make money from ads on a blog site? I don't think so. |
| 19:23.34 | [TK]D-Fender | CBlo: Show us the code, its execution, the callfile itself, etc |
| 19:23.44 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: Hell no. |
| 19:25.32 | jaytee | if you're writing skills are even half as good as your tech savvy with all things * and VOIP you'd write a killer blog. specially if you had a section for a tip of the week, couple of good most useful howto's and especially a section where you can just rant on any topic. |
| 19:26.09 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: My blog tech tips DO fly around here on a nearly daily basis already :) |
| 19:26.17 | CBlo | There's no need anymore. While copying the code, I found the error: I misspelled the path and haven't seen it for two hours... ;-( |
| 19:26.34 | [TK]D-Fender | CBlo: Don't frown, you've found the answer, and fast. |
| 19:26.46 | *** part/#asterisk CBlo (n=opera@brln-4db80cb3.pool.einsundeins.de) |
| 19:27.44 | jaytee | your reputation from this channel would generate lots of hits and in turn google would generate a ton too. |
| 19:29.18 | mgroman | i mean yea, id probably check it at lunch |
| 19:30.12 | [TK]D-Fender | ~sipnat |
| 19:30.13 | jbot | [~sipnat] Quick guide on configuring * + SIP behind NAT : http://www.aocomputing.net/?p=3 , otherwise check the WIKI at http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+SIP+NAT+solutions |
| 19:30.25 | [TK]D-Fender | ^^^^ didn't come out of thin air you know :) |
| 19:30.26 | drmessano | I think www.assteriskhole.com is taken |
| 19:30.42 | jaytee | so aocomputing is your company website? |
| 19:31.18 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: Personal. My day-job only uses *. |
| 19:31.49 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: And is in a non-tech field |
| 19:32.33 | drmessano | He works for a place that makes penis pumps |
| 19:32.38 | mgroman | o noes |
| 19:32.41 | drmessano | So this is how he unwinds |
| 19:33.00 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: that is an insult.... the the highly technical nature of penis pumps! |
| 19:33.05 | jaytee | so you've already got a site, you just need to setup advertising revenue. Linksys, Polycom, whatever else that "doesn't suck!" |
| 19:33.06 | [TK]D-Fender | to* |
| 19:33.15 | mgroman | www.suckless.org? |
| 19:33.28 | drmessano | He's not getting a 10% kickback from Polycom? |
| 19:35.32 | jaytee | a buddy of mine's first IT engineering job involved developing a penis monitoring "appliance" and software to track nocturnal erections. |
| 19:35.45 | drmessano | ZOMG |
| 19:35.47 | drmessano | No WAY |
| 19:35.51 | drmessano | He wrote SemenSentry? |
| 19:35.59 | drmessano | HA.. I mean.. never heard of it |
| 19:36.10 | mgroman | haha |
| 19:37.28 | mgroman | when ztcfg -vvvvvv says "2 channels to configure", what the ? |
| 19:38.15 | jaytee | he then went to work for Jim Davis of the Garfield comic as IT Director. Paws Inc. worked with Industrial Light and Magic, DEC and MIT on one the first 64 bit Unix systems and the software for early CGI animation. |
| 19:38.44 | mgroman | jaytee: how exactly did that first job look on the ol resume? |
| 19:38.52 | jaytee | I never asked |
| 19:40.22 | jaytee | he probably generalized with "worked on development of medical monitoring peripheral equipment and interface software. |
| 19:47.52 | drmessano | Developed cutting edge endpoint monitoring technology for the medical field. |
| 19:47.58 | drmessano | heh.. endpoint |
| 19:49.37 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: You shouldn't sue the words "cutting edge" and "penis" in the same sentence like that... its threatening. |
| 19:49.43 | mgroman | May someone point me into the right direction as to why the * box wont pick up any calls ? http://www.pastebin.ca/1183658 |
| 19:50.42 | [TK]D-Fender | mgroman: what do you see at verbose 10 in CLI? |
| 19:51.27 | mgroman | [TK]D-Fender: nothing, the box is not picking up the calls |
| 19:52.08 | [TK]D-Fender | mgroman: "zap show channels" <- |
| 19:52.08 | mgroman | it is a good outlet, i was able to call my favorite pizzaria by plugging a phone into the wall outlet |
| 19:53.00 | mgroman | [TK]D-Fender: It says "No such command 'zap show'" --> asterisk v. 1.4.17 |
| 19:53.18 | mgroman | `lsmod | grep wct` returns the drivers |
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| 19:53.58 | [TK]D-Fender | mgroman: then you didn't compile * AFTER zaptel to gain zaptel support |
| 19:54.12 | mgroman | fck |
| 19:54.23 | [TK]D-Fender | mgroman: try "module load chan_zap.so" and try "zap show channels" again |
| 19:54.59 | mgroman | [TK]D-Fender: ah ok, i got permission denied, this is my first time trying to run * as non-root (using asterisk:asterisk) |
| 19:55.30 | [TK]D-Fender | ~asterisk-non-root |
| 19:55.30 | jbot | [~asterisk-non-root] Running * as non-root is covered in chapter 13 of Asterisk:The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (~book) and an article written by Leif Madsen at http://www.taug.ca/node/115 |
| 19:55.32 | mgroman | "unable to open /dev/zap/channel ... ", give asterisk:asterisk ownership of /dev/zap ftw? |
| 19:55.53 | mgroman | ah ok |
| 19:55.55 | mgroman | danke |
| 19:56.12 | TJNII | mgroman: Why not try as root to get it working and then deal with permission issues when you know everything else works? |
| 19:56.33 | TJNII | I find debugging easiest when you only have to deal with one variable at a time. |
| 19:57.03 | mgroman | TJNII: true |
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| 20:06.56 | aliver | I'm looking at an example from a book. Here it is: exten => _20[0-3],1,Macro(normal|SIP/${EXTEN}|${EXTEN}) |
| 20:07.02 | aliver | what are the pipes "|" for? |
| 20:07.13 | aliver | do those separate arguments or do a logical OR? |
| 20:07.24 | mgroman | aliver: args |
| 20:07.37 | aliver | So, in that case the macro takes three args, correct? |
| 20:07.37 | drmessano | Delivering water |
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| 20:08.07 | mgroman | aliver: yea |
| 20:08.29 | aliver | thanks |
| 20:10.45 | [TK]D-Fender | aliver: no, *2* args. |
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| 20:11.04 | [TK]D-Fender | aliver: And "|" is deprecated as a delimiter. Use "," instead |
| 20:11.47 | [TK]D-Fender | aliver: the Macro application is being given 3 args. The MACRO you are calling takes 2. |
| 20:38.46 | TJNII | coughs |
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| 20:54.55 | Anonissimus | I'll ask again: I'm looking for someone to design an asterisk system that calls numbers from a database in an automated way. |
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| 21:09.28 | emist | Anonissimus, you should ask in the asterisk-biz list |
| 21:09.41 | emist | or look at vicidial |
| 21:10.32 | TJNII | Or just read the book and do it yourself. |
| 21:10.37 | TJNII | Because it is easy. |
| 21:10.48 | emist | yeah, but hes looking for someone else to do it |
| 21:10.59 | TJNII | I know, hence the inherent snark. |
| 21:11.15 | emist | good luck |
| 21:12.31 | Anonissimus | emist: yeah but no companies in asterisk-biz in belgium |
| 21:12.56 | emist | Anonissimus, why does it have to be in blegium? |
| 21:14.09 | Anonissimus | easier to get a meeting? |
| 21:14.24 | Anonissimus | just wanted to point out I looked |
| 21:15.04 | emist | gotcha |
| 21:15.21 | emist | well, good luck with that, i'm out |
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| 22:02.37 | Johnakabean | hey room. I'm using latest asterisk and it started eating 100 percent of cpu after 4 days of uptime. It SEEMS to work normal but I have verified the usage using "ps -aux" command. |
| 22:06.33 | florz | what does top say? |
| 22:07.41 | Johnakabean | two asterisk processes, one is using 99 percent |
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| 22:10.33 | florz | two asterisk processes? maybe you should just kill them both and then start a single asterisk instance? |
| 22:11.06 | florz | this isn't possibly some really old version running on a really old kernel? |
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| 22:18.29 | pcrane | can anyone give me a hand with a race condition? |
| 22:18.44 | pcrane | I've got a whole pile of agents logged in to queues.. |
| 22:19.21 | pcrane | when I use RemoveQueueMemember and they receive a call at that point, they stay logged in and accept that call |
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| 22:22.27 | jblack | Johnakabean: Sounds to me like you tried to stop asterisk 4 days ago, but it was locked up (probably on a lock), and you ended up restarting it. |
| 22:22.30 | [TK]D-Fender | pcrane: And if you call it again seconds after teh call is accepted? |
| 22:22.34 | jblack | Kill -9 the one that's at 99% |
| 22:22.44 | pcrane | [TK]D-Fender: I believe so |
| 22:22.57 | jblack | Johnakabean: Is this a common thing for you, or is it the first time? |
| 22:23.04 | [TK]D-Fender | pcrane: what happens? |
| 22:23.27 | jblack | Johnakabean: Oh, btw, if you haven't killed the 99% one, you can strace it to see where it's looping. |
| 22:23.41 | pcrane | the agent hits the logout button, a split second later, they receive a call. |
| 22:23.45 | jblack | (becaue it's not stuck on a lock.. or at least it's a busylock) |
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| 22:24.20 | [TK]D-Fender | pcrane: No, you are not listening/ |
| 22:24.29 | pcrane | ? |
| 22:24.45 | [TK]D-Fender | pcrane: FINE. They get THAT call. While still ON IT, if you were to issue the SAME logout by ANY other means, are they removed? |
| 22:25.17 | pcrane | yes, they're removed from the queue |
| 22:26.46 | [TK]D-Fender | pcrane: Then when you call for your logout do a system call that will re-issue it on a delay. |
| 22:27.14 | pcrane | so, the idea being that the remove queue member is 'paused'? |
| 22:28.26 | [TK]D-Fender | pcrane: perhaps. I'm suggesting a way around it |
| 22:28.31 | pcrane | mmm |
| 22:32.09 | jeev | moving from an opteron 246 which is a single core 2ghz processor to an opteron 270 which is a dual core 2ghz should be sort of a big difference, right ? |
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| 22:35.16 | jblack | I set up a meetme conference for the channel. It can be reached at IAX2/asterisk.linuxguru.net and SIP/asterisk.linuxguru.net |
| 22:36.03 | drmessano | Lame |
| 22:36.07 | drmessano | No H323 support? |
| 22:36.19 | jblack | seriously? |
| 22:36.48 | drmessano | I had to say something |
| 22:36.57 | jblack | bah, you troll. |
| 22:37.15 | jblack | The machine is limited to 200 Gigabytes a month (that's what $20 buys these days), so I limited it to just gsm. |
| 22:37.24 | amessina | jblack, i came late. what is that meetme conf for? |
| 22:37.35 | jblack | Just for the channel to chat on. |
| 22:37.45 | amessina | ok. thanks. |
| 22:37.52 | jeev | jblack, where is the server ? |
| 22:38.22 | jblack | linode. |
| 22:38.41 | jeev | i made agreements to people to let me use 200gb for 75 bux/m for 1u space |
| 22:38.43 | jeev | you pay 20? lol |
| 22:38.50 | jeev | they wanted to give me 1mbit, i said i want 200gb |
| 22:38.59 | jeev | i'd rather count my transfer than constant traffic. |
| 22:39.18 | jblack | If they're allowing 1mbit a sec, that's pretty good. |
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| 22:39.41 | jeev | yea, pure level3 bandwidth but i'd rather have 200gigs. |
| 22:39.47 | jeev | that way i could spike and i do spike |
| 22:39.57 | Qwell | but they're probably measuring 95th percentile.. |
| 22:40.16 | jeev | with 1mbit, 95th.. so i said i want no 95th and 200gb transfer. |
| 22:40.36 | jblack | so plop down $20/mo for a linode. |
| 22:40.47 | jeev | no, that's VPS.. mine is my own box, colo |
| 22:40.52 | jeev | i could get cheaper but i trust mine more |
| 22:40.59 | jeev | it just makes me feel better knowing its MY server. |
| 22:41.05 | jblack | Ok. |
| 22:41.16 | jeev | i have 7 colo'd boxes now, everything else is customers and stuff in a cage..then a bunch of dedi's elsewhere |
| 22:41.23 | jeev | and i know that i get lazy with the dedi's and tend to ignore them |
| 22:41.39 | jblack | Where linode hits ya is cpu time, memory, and io bus. |
| 22:42.02 | jeev | yea |
| 22:42.09 | jeev | man people sell bandwidth cheap |
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| 22:42.25 | jeev | what are your links there? |
| 22:42.35 | jblack | my links? |
| 22:42.35 | jeev | ahh, the planet |
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| 22:43.20 | jeev | coughs |
| 22:43.31 | Robba | Does anyone know what would cause a BRI link to stop responding after 15 secs on a b410p card? |
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| 22:43.40 | *** part/#asterisk russellb (n=russellb@asterisk/developer-and-stable-maintainer/drumkilla) |
| 22:44.31 | jblack | bad russell |
| 22:44.51 | jblack | leaves the conf cause no one else is on |
| 22:44.56 | jeev | heh |
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| 22:45.08 | jeev | i've got a text from someone that i dont want to read. |
| 22:45.26 | jblack | #asterisk: "I love working on phone systems, but I hate actually talking to people" |
| 22:45.39 | jeev | i can't wait to test the back up system on the polycom, the secondary one |
| 22:45.53 | jeev | i set up asterisk on 4 servers on 4 different networks.. |
| 22:46.03 | jeev | so i could swap them around.. but i've yet to figure out how i prefer to do it |
| 22:46.09 | jeev | dns with 30second TTL? |
| 22:46.56 | pcrane | jblack: I 100% agree with that quote |
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| 22:52.21 | jblack | jeev: 1 did per each machine, and set the provider up with rollover for each did ? |
| 22:52.29 | jblack | Then, with dundi between the four servers, route the calls. |
| 22:53.00 | jblack | wonders if one can drbd a drbd, to make a 4 way filesystem |
| 22:53.53 | jeev | wow |
| 22:54.04 | jeev | i meant, lets say routing dies to 1, the phone has the ab ility to go to the second server.. |
| 22:54.18 | jblack | The phone? Polycoms can register and use two servers at least. |
| 22:54.21 | jeev | now i dunno what to do, primary server, should maybe be the main dns, then if anything happens, i change the ip |
| 22:54.22 | jeev | yea |
| 22:54.30 | jeev | hmm |
| 22:54.36 | jeev | i dont want to do anything like dundi |
| 22:54.36 | amessina | jblack, any special config needed to access your conference? ,Dial(IAX2/guest@asterisk.linuxguru.net,20) |
| 22:54.39 | jblack | Its from the provider where things get tricky, and I told you how to do it. :) |
| 22:54.40 | drmessano | You can use SRV records |
| 22:54.42 | drmessano | and weight them |
| 22:54.44 | jeev | i dont know much about them but i know that i dont want to split things up unless if i have to |
| 22:54.58 | jblack | amessina: That should do it, possibly without the guest@ |
| 22:55.10 | jeev | jblack, yea.. i know i'd have to do the routing thing |
| 22:55.13 | jeev | i've got to think about it |
| 22:55.32 | jeev | reg.1.server.1.address=primary server and then reg.1.server.2.address=secondary |
| 22:55.35 | jeev | i guess i wont bother with DNS |
| 22:55.38 | jeev | incase if it's a major failure |
| 22:55.42 | drmessano | amessina |
| 22:55.46 | jblack | Let me know if it can handle .3. and .4. |
| 22:55.52 | amessina | jblack: "no authority found" |
| 22:55.53 | jeev | it can't, not the 330. |
| 22:56.00 | jblack | Did you take out the guest@ ? |
| 22:56.07 | jeev | 4-40 in the config |
| 22:56.11 | jeev | i mean admin guide |
| 22:56.22 | amessina | drmessano, yes? |
| 22:57.07 | amessina | jblack, yes. i get the "i don't know how to authenticate" message |
| 22:57.49 | jblack | Ok, try guest now. |
| 22:58.18 | jblack | You just joined, no? |
| 22:58.20 | amessina | it works, but i have no mic. |
| 22:58.31 | jblack | ahh, ok. thanks for the test, then |
| 22:58.37 | amessina | i was just testing it. but now it works. |
| 22:58.37 | jblack | nobody is there but me. |
| 22:58.38 | Johnakabean | hey black thanks for your response earlier. it was actually asterisk leaving php open after it ran a script |
| 22:58.44 | amessina | will you be keeping this conference up. |
| 22:58.54 | amessina | ? |
| 22:59.00 | jblack | I don't have any plans on taking it down. |
| 22:59.26 | amessina | nice. i just didn't know if it was temporary. what will be the focus of this never ending conference? |
| 22:59.31 | russellb | vgdgbrtbrterthy |
| 22:59.34 | jblack | it's iax and sip, w/ gsm. With GSM, each caller is 8KB/sec |
| 22:59.35 | Johnakabean | that would be a nice idea to make a conference for this room |
| 22:59.37 | jblack | brb. emergency |
| 22:59.56 | Johnakabean | so everyone could use both texting and voice |
| 22:59.56 | russellb | glares at his cat |
| 23:00.27 | Johnakabean | irc goes voice chat?? :-) |
| 23:00.34 | Robba | lol |
| 23:01.47 | lesouvage | amessina: you can ask questions and there are some great guys that mostly answer them and help you very politely. Just an advice: prepare before asking and be specific. |
| 23:03.34 | lesouvage | Johnakabean: there actually is an asterisk phone conference once in a while that can be joined by everybody interested. |
| 23:03.42 | *** join/#asterisk DagMoller (n=aguirre@unaffiliated/dagmoller) |
| 23:04.04 | amessina | lesouvage: that's what i was thinking. i'm not sure how much jblack described before i joined the channel |
| 23:04.46 | *** join/#asterisk anthm (n=anthm@freeswitch/developer/anthm) |
| 23:05.11 | Johnakabean | les, i was talking about making a permanent public one in addition to that private one |
| 23:06.10 | lesouvage | If there is one group of people that should be able to set that up its the people in this channel. |
| 23:07.12 | *** join/#asterisk DagMoller (n=aguirre@unaffiliated/dagmoller) |
| 23:08.39 | jblack | back. One eyeball, freshly washed. |
| 23:10.14 | Robba | ok what did i miss? |
| 23:16.34 | TJNII | Nothing like the sounds of an empty conference.... |
| 23:16.41 | jblack | Aww. someone joined the conference and I wasn't there. |
| 23:16.48 | jblack | I'm there now. |
| 23:19.20 | jblack | woot. three people. |
| 23:38.24 | amessina | is away: Gone away for now. |
| 23:48.33 | *** join/#asterisk jeffspeff (i=jeff@c-98-240-113-135.hsd1.ky.comcast.net) |
| 23:51.25 | [intra]lanman | a public conference is a great idea.... freeswitch has had one up for a couple of years now and it's a great help for some |
| 23:53.14 | [intra]lanman | you could also interface the conference to the channel bot so that it makes announcements into the conf when people join/leave the channel, etc |
| 23:55.04 | [intra]lanman | just a couple of ideas.... not that i expect to see the asterisk guys copy all of the freeswitch ideas ;-) |
| 23:55.20 | drmessano | Naah, it's usually the other way around.. |
| 23:55.58 | [intra]lanman | haha, drmessano's a funny guy |
