00:01.54 | [TK]D-Fender | MatBoy: sure |
00:02.08 | [TK]D-Fender | ftp3: doable |
00:04.12 | MatBoy | [TK]D-Fender: ok, I already thought so, but I never did it that way :) |
00:05.06 | MatBoy | [TK]D-Fender: my idea was to let asterisk pick 2 numbers and put them to the pbx over that isdn card |
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00:05.11 | [TK]D-Fender | MatBoy: * can each as TE or NT |
00:05.33 | MatBoy | [TK]D-Fender: NT in my way |
00:06.26 | [TK]D-Fender | MatBoy: Don't forget that * sits in between, and does not pass things off. So you can call in on one, and have it briidge out the other (Dial), or you can have * initiate contact to a channel. |
00:07.47 | MatBoy | [TK]D-Fender: yep :) I have added this channel to my new irssi server again :) |
00:07.49 | MatBoy | thanks |
00:08.10 | MatBoy | [TK]D-Fender: I still need to get familair with that * that everyone types :D |
00:08.49 | TrentCreek | As opposed to the other ones? |
00:09.25 | MatBoy | TrentCreek: no, I think I do something wrong when I see them :) |
00:09.35 | ftp3 | d-fender: yeah, there are a few companies that sell the service.. i just wanted to see if there was an open source or easy to implement solution |
00:09.35 | MatBoy | just a wrong feeling :) |
00:10.00 | [TK]D-Fender | ftp3: You misunderstand. This is not very difficult to DO with Asterisk |
00:11.03 | ftp3 | d-fender: i see.. what language would this be in? php? |
00:13.55 | [TK]D-Fender | ftp3: Whatever you feel like |
00:15.20 | [TK]D-Fender | ftp3: Your script will determine who and when to call, and trigger * to do the callout. This would be via either a "call file" or an "AMI Originate". Go look them up on the WIKI |
00:15.23 | [TK]D-Fender | ~wikis |
00:15.23 | jbot | [~wikis] VoIP Wiki covering Asterisk, FreeSWITCH, TrixBox, SER, OpenSER, sipX, CallWeaver, and YATE. http://www.voip-info.org (c) Arte Marketing Inc / CommPartners |
00:17.32 | zilasb | something is still wrong here: $DUNDTECH=$AGI->get_variable('DUNDTECH', 'DUNDiLookup(933331|priv)'); |
00:17.58 | zilasb | my result is 0 |
00:18.47 | zilasb | while from cli 'dundi lookup 933331@priv' returns full value |
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00:30.13 | GwaiLo | Hi all, if I have Executing [s@incoming:1] Answer("Zap/4-1", "") in new stack for incoming calls (it's through the normal phone network). What's the easiest way to dial out through that PSTN line? I just want to do a basic Dial command... but I can't seem to get it actually connecting to the telephone network properly |
00:30.19 | GwaiLo | do I have to create an exten => line to where I want to dial or can I just give it arbitrary numbers to dial just for testing? |
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00:32.44 | NovceGuru | Hello, I have a polycom 650, and was wondering the "term" used to describe the ability to show other extensions (other presence enabled phones) status on the 6 lines on the left of the phone's screen |
00:34.48 | [hC] | BLF |
00:35.13 | [hC] | you need to turn on 'hints' for the extensions you want to monitor in your dial plan, like |
00:35.20 | [hC] | exten => 102,hint,SIP/102 |
00:35.45 | [hC] | then in your polycom config you need to turn on 'presence' which should be in your sip.cfg, change it to '1' from '0' |
00:36.03 | NovceGuru | wouldn't on be 1? |
00:36.11 | [hC] | pardon me |
00:36.13 | [hC] | from 0 to 1 |
00:36.14 | [hC] | :) |
00:36.30 | [hC] | then add a contact on your phone, and turn on buddy watch for that contact |
00:36.39 | [hC] | and their status will show up |
00:36.53 | NovceGuru | not in the buddy list but on the side where the "lines" are? |
00:37.16 | [hC] | well if all your lines are already assigned (the first 6 on the phone itself), when you add a contact it will automatically start on the side car |
00:37.39 | kippi | hey |
00:37.45 | kippi | is there away to see where my configuration is failing and stoping opernser from loading? |
00:37.57 | [hC] | theres lots of info for this on voip-info.org |
00:38.03 | [hC] | search for polycom blf |
00:38.05 | NovceGuru | [hC]: thanks :D |
00:38.07 | [hC] | but thats the jist |
00:38.33 | NovceGuru | cool, always nice to get the correct term |
00:38.51 | NovceGuru | on a side note, i've been trying many of the "canned" distros of asterisk, I can't find one that doesn't suck |
00:39.08 | [hC] | depends what you're after |
00:39.21 | NovceGuru | sipx looked cool but the fact you can't use a standard ITSP with it kinda stopped me there |
00:39.30 | [hC] | if you're looking for a gui, freepbx or asterisk gui are both decent |
00:39.32 | NovceGuru | (I know it isn't * based) |
00:39.38 | [hC] | freepbx has more support and features imho |
00:39.47 | [hC] | pbx in a flash is okay, or trixbox |
00:40.03 | NovceGuru | yeah I was just playing with elastix which uses freebpx, but I don't see a place to set the BLF |
00:40.04 | [hC] | i would probably use pbx in a flash since trixbox has done some nasty stuff lately |
00:40.13 | [hC] | its in there |
00:40.18 | [hC] | im not sure where |
00:40.25 | NovceGuru | I may just have to play more |
00:40.45 | NovceGuru | I like the web gui (from a customers point of view) since it allows them to set basic stuff |
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00:41.09 | NovceGuru | Elastix seems to have an.....ok end point config utility |
00:41.32 | NovceGuru | although my first line on my 650 has some screwy pixelation with the config it generated |
00:43.42 | NovceGuru | in the end I seem to always come back to the cli |
00:51.53 | j0 | an ok endpoint utility? can i easily move it to trixbox? lol. i'm having a pain with theres |
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01:15.19 | NovceGuru | j0: not sure how easy that would be. |
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01:22.09 | monstertruck | [netman] |
01:22.25 | ManxPower | ~trixbox |
01:22.25 | jbot | [~trixbox] trixbox is a full linux distro that includes FreePBX and other 3rd party add-ons. It is all this extra stuff which makes trixbox VERY difficult to support, and is not supported in #asterisk. Try asking in #trixbox or on their forums & wiki at http://www.trixbox.org |
01:22.25 | ManxPower | ~freepbx |
01:22.26 | jbot | [~freepbx] FreePBX is unable to be supported here. It is made up of complex dialplans and scripts which can't be easily supported by people who aren't deeply involved. Try joining #freepbx and asking there |
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01:25.51 | zilasb | what's wrong here, why result is 0? $foo=$AGI->get_variable("foo",'Set(foo=${DUNDILOOKUP(933331|priv)})'); |
01:28.24 | Juggie | well where do i start. |
01:28.37 | Juggie | #1, get_variable accepts one variable not 2. |
01:28.57 | Juggie | #2, get variable does not run set commands or any other command as a second paremeter |
01:29.06 | obnauticus | When did the FCC say all analog cell networks (i.e. W-CDMA/CDMA/TDMA) need to switch to GSM? |
01:29.45 | Juggie | #3, you are approaching it entirely the wrong way anyway $foo=AGI->get_variable("DUNDILOOKUP(93331|priv)"); |
01:30.25 | Juggie | er, $AGI |
01:30.41 | Juggie | obnauticus, they have not that i am aware, furthermore W-CDMA/CDMA/TDMA is not analog |
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01:31.13 | Juggie | AMPS on 800mhz is the USA/Canada analog network |
01:31.35 | rhombus | How do I adjust the default ring volume in the Polycom 501? I'm trying to do it with voice.gain.rx.analog.ringer but so far it does not seem to be having any effect |
01:32.53 | [netman] | hi monstertruck |
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01:33.35 | zilasb | Juggie: is that right?: $foo=$AGI->get_variable("DUNDILOOKUP(93331|priv)"); $AGI -> exec_dial($foo); |
01:33.50 | zilasb | for some reason does not work... |
01:36.26 | obnauticus | Juggie, sorry my bad. Do you know if Verizon is switching to GSM soon, I know Sprint is. |
01:36.44 | NovceGuru | sprint is moving to wimax |
01:37.30 | obnauticus | wimax is not a cell network. |
01:37.46 | obnauticus | wimax is a replacment for EVDO |
01:38.20 | Juggie | obnauticus, no i do not know. |
01:38.29 | Juggie | sprint is definitally working on wimax. |
01:38.41 | obnauticus | ya I know that. |
01:38.54 | Juggie | the reason carriers even CARE about gsm |
01:38.59 | obnauticus | I really wonder what a perfect cell structure would look like. |
01:39.05 | Juggie | is because they loose A) good phones B) roaming fees |
01:39.20 | Juggie | so sprint/verizon get absolutely no roaming fees from international travelers |
01:39.28 | Juggie | and its a huge market |
01:39.53 | Juggie | its not that gsm is better then cdma or vise versa |
01:40.04 | Juggie | its that gsm is the market winner, like blu ray over hddvd |
01:40.12 | Juggie | and its time for cdma to gracefully bow out |
01:40.26 | obnauticus | ya, this makes sense. |
01:40.37 | Juggie | telus in canada is considering moving to gsm |
01:40.49 | Juggie | they even sell a phone which is cdma/gsm |
01:41.01 | Juggie | so you can travel with it, and you can get a telus gsm card for roaming. |
01:41.08 | Juggie | er, gsm sim |
01:41.37 | Juggie | rogers makes a ton of cash because everyone who comes to canada from anywhere besides the us |
01:41.40 | Juggie | roams on rogers |
01:41.42 | obnauticus | i wonder if one could launch a GSM basestation as a satellite in space |
01:41.47 | obnauticus | with high bandwidth wireless links |
01:41.51 | Juggie | no |
01:41.52 | obnauticus | k |
01:41.58 | obnauticus | ionosphere? |
01:42.04 | Juggie | they are the only gsm network in canada |
01:42.10 | Juggie | since they bought fido |
01:43.00 | Juggie | but they are ahead of the game since they were the only company with the foresight to abondon the existing infrastructure and rebuild from scratch |
01:43.07 | Juggie | rogers used to be a AMPS/TDMA provider |
01:43.23 | obnauticus | heh, do you by any chance know much about the blackberry/ |
01:43.26 | Juggie | that network is entirely gone. |
01:43.32 | Juggie | no, i know nil about blackberry |
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01:43.41 | obnauticus | errrr |
01:43.52 | obnauticus | i can't find anyone who knows technical stuff about this thing |
01:43.52 | obnauticus | lol |
01:43.59 | Juggie | howardforums.com |
01:44.07 | obnauticus | oh ya, forgot about them. |
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01:44.52 | zilasb | is there any different approach from php agi to do a lookup on dundi and make a dial to that location cause $foo=$AGI->get_variable("DUNDILOOKUP(93331|priv)"); $AGI -> exec_dial($foo); does not work.... |
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01:50.08 | zilasb | AGI Rx << GET VARIABLE DUNDILOOKUP(93331|priv) |
01:50.08 | zilasb | AGI Tx >> 200 result=1 () |
01:50.48 | zilasb | <PROTECTED> |
01:50.48 | zilasb | dundi lookup 933331@priv |
01:50.48 | zilasb | <PROTECTED> |
01:56.49 | zilasb | sorry wrong paste |
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02:34.52 | TrentCreek | croc dundi |
02:35.05 | TrentCreek | "That's not a knife" |
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02:53.28 | IOU | Hi everyone, How would I make Asterisk pick up the incoming external call, and put the call on hold while ringing the destination ? |
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02:58.03 | tristanbob | what is the most common way to block 1-900 calls? |
02:59.08 | Qwell | don't add dialplan for it |
02:59.27 | Qwell | (or fire the offending users) |
03:01.25 | jaytee | or route the call to a recording that says, "Shame on you, you naughty naughty boy! You've been reported to the HR Department!" |
03:02.58 | coppice | sounds like one of those stupid Virgin mobile ads |
03:04.13 | TJNII | I think a recording noting that $10/min will be deducted from their next paycheck with a minimum $50 charge would be better. |
03:10.43 | jblack | I don't think wages can be docked any more. :( |
03:11.28 | WilliamK | depends on the company and the state/country you're in |
03:11.47 | WilliamK | some companies here will still do it, although some specific ones I've worked with won't |
03:11.57 | WilliamK | they however will send you a bill in the mail |
03:13.14 | TJNII | Well, it's not docking. You're offering them a chargable service. (phone service) that they can choose to use or not use. Since you pay them, rather than send them pay and a bill, you simply subtract the amount they owe you from the amount you owe them. Bury a clause in the employee handbook stating that and I would think you would be good. (Though IANAL) |
03:14.32 | WilliamK | another easier way is redirecting the call to a switchboard operator |
03:14.50 | TJNII | That's not as much fun. |
03:15.01 | WilliamK | depends on the call |
03:15.05 | TJNII | "What's this $150 deduction from my paycheck!" |
03:15.08 | WilliamK | office gossip gets around fast |
03:15.09 | WilliamK | =P |
03:15.14 | TJNII | "900 calls didn't you read the handbook?" |
03:15.18 | TJNII | "uhhhh.....: |
03:15.37 | TJNII | Billing will set the gossip tree in motion, too. |
03:15.51 | TJNII | "Johnson was docked $300 for 900 calls last pay period!" |
03:15.54 | jblack | speaking of calls.... |
03:16.12 | jblack | A company I'm contracted to records every agent call. |
03:16.34 | jblack | The agents know, but man, some of the stuff they talk to their girlfriends about... |
03:16.40 | WilliamK | they record some of ours too depending on where you're at in the company |
03:16.52 | TJNII | Hah! |
03:17.22 | jblack | I feel dirty sometimes. I don't know whether to be shocked or jealous. |
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03:18.17 | jblack | feels dead certain that some day he'll have to fill a subpeonea in a paternity suit |
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03:20.12 | jblack | Or false imprisonment. It's sometimes up in the air like that. |
03:20.35 | TJNII | Some staff into S&M, then? |
03:21.02 | jblack | yeah |
03:22.00 | jaytee | one of our VP's at my previous company was involved with a dominatrix and they used to exchange some very salacious emails. Idiots thought no one was monitoring. |
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03:22.45 | coppice | I used to work in a place where someone ran up a staggering bill for calls to Indonesia. It turned out there was only one person in the company from Indonesia. The investigation didn't take too long. Who needs to record calls in a world full of people like that? :-) |
03:23.08 | jblack | well, these days, I make sure to put on headphones before I quality check calls. I work from home, and I'd hate to get into a conversation about that stuff with my 14 year old girl. |
03:23.53 | jblack | A female proctologist is embarassing. Having a birds-n-bees about BDSM? I can live without that. |
03:24.39 | coppice | A male bird, and a female bird, who spank each other very much,.... |
03:25.00 | jblack | I wish it was spanking! |
03:26.00 | coppice | Ah, so I found your particular fetish in just one attempt. ;-) |
03:26.34 | WilliamK | 1st thing they tell you were hired at the company I'm at is emails are supeonable and don't send ANYTHING personal through it... every email is archived |
03:26.40 | jblack | heh |
03:27.09 | jblack | yeah. If it's not written down, if it's not said on 'tape', it didn't happen. |
03:27.26 | doolph | anyone have installed Asterisk with those Alix motherboards? |
03:27.59 | WilliamK | personally I don't do things I'd regret at the office... if it's borderline ethics then I let a mgr do it and make the final call |
03:28.03 | WilliamK | that's what they get paid for |
03:29.42 | TJNII | Really? At my job they get paid to drink coffee and create asinine policies to make my job harder. |
03:29.54 | TJNII | But I work for local gvt, so I guess that is to be expected. |
03:30.00 | WilliamK | well they do that too |
03:30.02 | coppice | I always do things I regret in the office - i just hate working for a living |
03:30.06 | jaytee | is that what managers get paid for? I thought it was for intimidating 5 workers to do the work of 12 while spending the rest of their time in meetings thinking up stupid ideas. |
03:30.09 | WilliamK | works on a gvt acct |
03:30.38 | WilliamK | mine typically skips meetings with no purpose |
03:30.47 | TJNII | Well, I work for the transit company so I am lucky in that regard. No matter how you cut it you need one person per bus. No less. |
03:31.02 | WilliamK | and not sending posting the meeting presentations won't get his attendance even if you are from an HR dept |
03:31.34 | WilliamK | I'm looking at changing industries, but we'll see |
03:31.36 | jblack | TNJII: Sure, and that _one_ person can also become responsible for washing the bus, filling the tires, doing oil changes.... |
03:32.03 | TJNII | Thay haven't done that yet, thank goodness. |
03:32.19 | jblack | and before long, at the rate oil is going, instead of driving a bus, you'll be giving piggyback rides. |
03:32.39 | TJNII | There has been talk of Rickshaws. |
03:32.54 | coppice | soon they'll have them paying for their own replacement buses |
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03:33.00 | WilliamK | I like at least the general direction coca-cola has been moving... least some of their trucks are hybrids now |
03:33.34 | coppice | part truck, part "company car perk"? |
03:33.42 | jblack | I hear we'll be "out" of precious metals in the next ten years. |
03:34.03 | WilliamK | huh? these are delivery trucks - half semi basically |
03:34.03 | jblack | I don't think I could live without a computer. |
03:34.07 | coppice | I'm already very low on precious metals |
03:34.30 | jblack | coppice: Aye. I don't even have metal hangers any more. just those crappy plastic ones. |
03:34.54 | WilliamK | I don't mind the plastic ones honestly |
03:35.01 | WilliamK | only broken 2 in 5 yrs |
03:35.02 | TJNII | There has been talk of hybrid busses, byt they don't fin in most bus barns |
03:35.14 | jblack | TJNII: fit? |
03:35.19 | TJNII | because they move the HVAC system to the roof to make room for the hybrid system |
03:35.26 | TJNII | s/fin/fit/ |
03:35.42 | WilliamK | some of the buses here are LNG/CNG |
03:35.57 | coppice | a lot of buses have been a form of hybrid for years, storing recovered braking energy in compressed air tanks |
03:36.03 | WilliamK | most are low-sulfer diesel though |
03:36.21 | jblack | hmmm. |
03:36.25 | TJNII | coppice: I've heard of that but never seen it |
03:36.35 | TJNII | Ours have retarders, but they don't store energy |
03:36.47 | jblack | TJNII: WHen they talked of rickshaws, were they talking about just hiring teams of illegal immigrants and harnessing them up to pull buses? |
03:37.05 | TJNII | jblack: Possibly |
03:37.18 | TJNII | I wasn't privy to that meeting |
03:37.25 | TJNII | Upper and middle mgmt only |
03:37.37 | jblack | I was trying to be cute, but I can imagine it all too easily. |
03:37.51 | jblack | "We won't deport you if you pull a bus 3 days a week" |
03:37.57 | TJNII | Only 3? |
03:38.01 | TJNII | They make me work 6 |
03:38.08 | TJNII | At only 30 hours per weel |
03:38.16 | TJNII | s/weel/week |
03:38.21 | jblack | You don't actually pay them, you see.. just promise to not deport them. Let them work elsewhere for actual money |
03:38.24 | WilliamK | just enough to say you're not full time |
03:38.32 | TJNII | jblack: I see. Sneaky |
03:38.49 | jblack | yeah. I should be a manager |
03:38.54 | WilliamK | 30hrs/week normally doesn't qualify someone for full benefits |
03:39.35 | TJNII | WilliamK: No. To get health care I work what's called an "Open Work Description" shift. That's where I fill in for people on vaction and as such they change my schedule every week. |
03:39.57 | jblack | I'm getting evil enough, that last week I suggested to a client, 'ya know, the system knows better than you who is a slacker, if you like, I can tell them they're fired over the phone and send an email to HR" |
03:40.54 | coppice | TJNII: I think most Volvo bus chassis do that braking energy storage thing |
03:41.18 | jblack | maybe I'm just biased by that guy that 'taught' me that not all rings go on fingers.... |
03:41.35 | TJNII | coppice: We run Orions (Chryslers) and a handfull of Gilligs. No Volvos. |
03:41.57 | WilliamK | TJNIT, oh that bites.... |
03:42.16 | coppice | do volvo even sell buses in the US? |
03:42.33 | WilliamK | course I can't type either |
03:42.37 | TJNII | I don't know. The semm Semi tractors |
03:42.44 | TJNII | s/semm/sell/ |
03:42.47 | coppice | if they do, they might be quite different from the european ones I'm used to |
03:42.49 | TJNII | I can't type tonight. |
03:45.03 | TJNII | WilliamK: Yes. Yes it does. 6 hour lunch breaks suck. |
03:45.16 | TJNII | Especially when the shift on either side is <=3 hrs |
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03:52.21 | Juggie | TJNII, its illegal to give you (at least in canada) less then 3hrs |
03:52.33 | Juggie | you can work less then 3, but you must be paid for 3. |
03:53.42 | TJNII | Not here |
03:53.45 | TJNII | Go USA! |
03:54.14 | TJNII | I've had to come in for 1.7hour shufts, and IIRC I didn't get 3 hours of pay |
03:57.23 | xnixan | every thing in configuring and making zaptel but when trying to do a "make install" i am always having this error |
03:57.26 | xnixan | make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernels/2.6.25.9-76.fc9.i686' |
03:57.26 | xnixan | scripts/Makefile.build:41: /kernel/Makefile: No such file or directory |
03:57.27 | xnixan | make[3]: *** No rule to make target `/kernel/Makefile'. Stop. |
03:57.27 | xnixan | make[2]: *** [_module_/kernel] Error 2 |
03:57.27 | xnixan | make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernels/2.6.25.9-76.fc9.i686' |
03:57.28 | xnixan | make[1]: *** [modules] Error 2 |
03:57.31 | xnixan | make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/iunixan/asterisk-1.4/zaptel-1.4.10' |
03:57.33 | xnixan | make: *** [all] Error 2 |
03:58.32 | xnixan | any ideas? |
03:59.07 | TJNII | What distro |
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04:00.47 | xnixan | TJNII, fedora 9 |
04:01.17 | Juggie | yum install kernel-devel |
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04:10.01 | xnixan | Juggie, it is already installed |
04:16.43 | Qwell | xnixan: install the latest version of zaptel |
04:17.51 | xnixan | Qwell, i had take it backward to the sixth version and every time with same or another error |
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04:19.29 | xnixan | Qwell, is that file is already exist, and the error says it does not! |
04:20.02 | TrentCreek | use the force |
04:20.15 | xnixan | TrentCreek, how? |
04:20.38 | TrentCreek | only a master can show you the way |
04:21.01 | xnixan | TrentCreek, have a nice day :) |
04:25.02 | IOU | How do i have all incoming calls put on hold until someone answers ? |
04:25.48 | jblack | IOU: With queues. |
04:26.12 | IOU | okaayy... |
04:26.19 | IOU | looks like i shall have to do some reading |
04:26.34 | jblack | You can start on page 421 of the book. |
04:26.59 | IOU | and this book i slocated |
04:27.03 | IOU | where ? |
04:27.05 | jblack | ~book |
04:27.05 | jbot | Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com, or see ~buybook |
04:28.37 | IOU | okay thnx, no doubt i'll stuff it up lol |
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05:30.04 | pcrack | hi i have error when i use xlite or zoiper heres the error code call failed: 499 Not acceptable here |
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05:30.25 | pcrack | i googled it and it showed that it is a codec problem |
05:31.09 | pcrack | but i have no control of the asterisk, im just connecting to the provider.. |
05:31.19 | pcrack | any advice... |
05:31.57 | jblack | It's probably authentication. |
05:32.25 | pcrack | but i can authenticate to the sip account they gave me |
05:32.47 | pcrack | only when i call gave me that error.. |
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06:48.22 | x86 | talk bitches |
06:51.45 | TrentCreek | ~kick x86 |
06:51.46 | jbot | ACTION kicks x86 |
06:58.22 | x86 | pfft |
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08:27.09 | frasraz | lo |
08:27.39 | frasraz | anybody here |
08:28.00 | frasraz | i am a asterisk noob |
08:28.23 | frasraz | i set up and asterisk box and i am trying simple dialplan |
08:28.57 | frasraz | it answers the call and then play back the hello-world.gsm sound file |
08:29.39 | frasraz | however the sound is very low and the quality is poor, how do i fix this |
08:29.42 | frasraz | ? |
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08:41.15 | implicit | frasraz: gsm format is lossy |
08:41.23 | implicit | so the audio quality is not great |
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08:41.46 | implicit | try an 8khz mono wav |
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08:42.13 | implicit | and make sure quality problems are not because of any other hardware or carrier issues |
08:45.44 | TrentCreek | can you be a little more implicit? |
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08:53.12 | implicit | TrentCreek: ? |
08:53.33 | implicit | can you be a little more nice? |
08:54.02 | TrentCreek | ;-( |
08:54.06 | TrentCreek | ;-) |
08:54.06 | implicit | ;) |
08:54.14 | implicit | lol |
08:54.42 | implicit | how old are you trentcreek |
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09:35.22 | tompaw | Hello. |
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09:48.16 | TrentCreek | 12 |
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09:57.28 | ice_croft | hi |
09:58.03 | ice_croft | how can i put a "pause" dt to the pstn ? |
09:58.27 | ice_croft | earlier it was atdp 5,442332 |
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09:58.40 | ice_croft | how can i do it usin Dial()? |
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09:59.14 | cjk | hi, which IRQ value is correct. the one from lspci -v or the one from lspci -vb ? |
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10:30.47 | ice_croft | ~book |
10:30.48 | jbot | Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com, or see ~buybook |
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10:33.26 | eXistenZ | ;/ |
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11:19.17 | StooJ | Hello all. Could Asterisk be used as an intercom on a network with no internet connectivity? |
11:20.35 | CVirus | What do you guys recommend ... asterisk GUI or asteriskNow ? |
11:20.48 | tompaw | StooJ, sure. |
11:20.56 | CVirus | or are they the same thing ? |
11:21.09 | tompaw | CVirus, I personally chosen asteriskNow, and as of now I'm not yet disappointed. |
11:21.13 | StooJ | tompaw - awesome! Thanks |
11:21.17 | CVirus | tompaw: cool |
11:21.31 | tompaw | CVirus, *Now contains the whole OS prepared to run *, including * GUI. |
11:21.52 | CVirus | now I get it |
11:21.54 | CVirus | thanks alot |
11:21.57 | tompaw | np |
11:22.06 | CVirus | What is the distro based on ? |
11:22.25 | tompaw | don't remember ;) |
11:22.29 | CVirus | let me find the answer on their website .. thanks again :-) |
11:22.35 | tompaw | but I tried building asterisk-addons there from the sources |
11:22.48 | tompaw | and there was no problems, everything required sits in the OS already. |
11:23.19 | CVirus | cool |
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11:47.03 | DarKnesS_WolF | CVirus: idiot :P |
11:47.18 | DarKnesS_WolF | CVirus: asterisknow is a full distro. asteriskgui is just a gui. |
11:48.06 | CVirus | DarKnesS_WolF: shut up |
11:49.37 | tzafrir_laptop | CVirus, it is based on rPath |
11:49.57 | CVirus | I see |
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12:08.26 | StooJ | Harsh words, DarKnesS_WolF |
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12:22.42 | Kobaz | gooey |
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12:34.50 | DarKnesS_WolF | CVirus: u still an idiot :P |
12:35.05 | DarKnesS_WolF | StooJ: ;-) |
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13:18.55 | kippi | hey |
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13:41.46 | MatBoy | hi guys |
13:41.54 | phpboy | hi |
13:42.04 | MatBoy | it is possible to route a sip account to an isdn card ? |
13:42.20 | MatBoy | I mean, I have an ISDn pbx connected to my asterisk server |
13:42.40 | MatBoy | the asterisk box has a national sip account and I use the isdn pbx internally |
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13:48.41 | tzafrir_laptop | MatBoy, sure. This is what the dialplan is for |
13:49.28 | MatBoy | troubled: ok, just a crosscable between the bri card and the isdn pbx and make a dailplan ? |
13:49.32 | MatBoy | oops |
13:49.40 | troubled | :) |
13:49.54 | MatBoy | sorry :) |
13:49.57 | tzafrir_laptop | by "dialplan" I mean extensions.conf and such |
13:50.00 | troubled | MatBoy: np |
13:50.08 | tzafrir_laptop | not "pridialplan" and such in zapata.conf |
13:51.14 | MatBoy | ok |
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13:59.55 | jks | anyone else using the kirk/polycom 300 with asterisk yet? |
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14:28.13 | pif | hi, I just upgraded to debian's 1.4.20 and now zaptel support seems broken, any obvious fix? |
14:28.50 | jaytee | recompile zaptel |
14:30.52 | pif | hmmm |
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14:31.55 | jaytee | or if you're saying you installed * 1.4.20 from debian repositories then use apt-get to install the newer zaptel package as well |
14:32.22 | pif | i did a dist-upgrade |
14:32.40 | Qwell | So you did far more than upgrate to 1.4.20 |
14:32.54 | Qwell | upgrade* |
14:33.23 | pif | yes but reverting to 1.4.19 packages fixes the problem, |
14:33.30 | pif | "asterisk.c:2960 main: Asterisk has detected a problem with your Zaptel configuration and will shutdown for your protection." |
14:34.07 | pif | no further clue in the logs or in debian's BTS |
14:36.07 | pif | I just have simple HFC card with the vzaphfc driver |
14:36.54 | RoyK | "Asterisk has detected more internal bugs and will shutdown for your annoyance..." |
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14:42.55 | tzafrir_laptop | pif, what version? |
14:43.35 | tzafrir_laptop | that error means that you don't have a functioning zaptel timing source |
14:43.49 | tzafrir_laptop | And therefore asterisk will not use zaptel timing |
14:43.56 | pif | oh |
14:44.10 | pif | version of what part? |
14:44.23 | Qwell | It's likely that the dist-upgrade included a kernel as well. I think the suggestion of recompiling zaptel wa a good one |
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14:44.31 | tzafrir_laptop | what version of Debian is it? |
14:44.40 | pif | unstable |
14:44.55 | tzafrir_laptop | what is the output of: zttest -c 1 |
14:44.55 | jaytee | wow! I made a good suggestion? woohoo! I'm feeling less like a noob every day. |
14:45.02 | pif | simply downgrading asterisk and asterisk-config fixes it |
14:45.17 | Qwell | pif: does it fix it, or just remove the error? |
14:45.30 | tzafrir_laptop | also: what is the output of: cat /sys/module/zaptel/version |
14:45.34 | pif | Opened pseudo zap interface, measuring accuracy... |
14:45.34 | pif | 99.998535% |
14:45.34 | pif | --- Results after 1 passes --- |
14:45.34 | pif | Best: 99.999 -- Worst: 99.999 -- Average: 99.998535, Difference: 99.998534 |
14:45.48 | tzafrir_laptop | so you do have a working zaptel timing source |
14:45.49 | pif | 1.4.11 |
14:46.00 | Qwell | hmm |
14:46.06 | tzafrir_laptop | next: ls -l /dev/zap/ctl |
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14:46.23 | pif | crw-rw---- 1 root dialout 196, 0 2008-07-06 16:08 /dev/zap/ctl |
14:46.30 | tzafrir_laptop | groups asterisk |
14:46.55 | pif | that's the change? |
14:47.15 | pif | but asterisk is member of dialout |
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14:47.55 | tzafrir_laptop | what is the version of the package asterisk? |
14:48.14 | tzafrir_laptop | dpkg -l asterisk |
14:48.20 | pif | I just reverted to 1:1.4.19.1~dfsg-1 |
14:48.46 | tzafrir_laptop | any chance that package was built with an older zaptel? |
14:49.05 | tzafrir_laptop | no, this would not be a problem |
14:49.47 | tzafrir_laptop | What errors do you see in /var/log/asterisk/messages ? |
14:49.48 | pif | my kernel and zapte-modules are freshly compiled with make-kpkg |
14:49.59 | doolph | there's anyway to install asterisk without have root access? |
14:50.21 | tzafrir_laptop | doolph, sure. --prefix=$HOME ? |
14:50.26 | pif | you mean errors with version 1.4.20 ? |
14:50.48 | pif | just this one: [Jul 6 16:32:37] ERROR[4704] asterisk.c: Asterisk has detected a problem with your Zaptel configuration and will shutdown for your protection. |
14:50.49 | doolph | really? |
14:51.09 | tzafrir_laptop | doolph, also, dummy "install" for testing: http://bugs.digium.com/11680 |
14:51.29 | tzafrir_laptop | pif, what do you see before that? |
14:52.40 | doolph | ummm |
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14:53.02 | pif | nothing else, asterisk shuts down immediately before doing any other init |
14:53.33 | tzafrir_laptop | oh, I realised the bug |
14:53.40 | tzafrir_laptop | you don't have a card, right? |
14:53.43 | eric2 | Anyone have experience with the Rhino T1 cards? or should I stick to Sangoma? |
14:53.50 | tzafrir_laptop | touch /etc/zaptel.conf |
14:53.58 | tzafrir_laptop | and for now: modprobe ztdummy |
14:54.03 | tzafrir_laptop | and load asterisk |
14:54.08 | tzafrir_laptop | (I hope) |
14:54.51 | pif | no, I have a "03:01.0 Network controller: Cologne Chip Designs GmbH ISDN network controller [HFC-PCI] (rev 02)" |
14:55.00 | doolph | there's any tutorial to install asterisk on a non-root account? |
14:55.12 | jaytee | eric, stick with Sangoma or better yet go with Digium, even Rhino tech support has problems fixing problems with their own hardware. |
14:55.16 | pif | removing modules and modprob'ing them does nothing |
14:55.32 | MatBoy | does someone recommend a good webgui for asterisk ? |
14:55.49 | jaytee | MatBoy, yeah, nano or vim |
14:56.12 | doolph | lol |
14:56.26 | MatBoy | jaytee: hehe, yes I use that too :P |
14:56.30 | pif | does vim have a http server? |
14:56.43 | jaytee | pif, nope, I was joking! |
14:56.44 | MatBoy | pif: don't think so |
14:56.45 | Qwell | no, but emacs probably does |
14:56.56 | pif | <aol> |
14:57.34 | eric2 | ok, tx jaytee |
14:57.40 | MatBoy | I need to forward a sip account to an ISDN PRI card, that's why and I don't see any howto's or good docs about that |
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15:01.02 | jaytee | MatBoy, if you've configured your PRI card to use Zaptel and assigned it a group number just use the Dial application to route calls to the Zap channel or group for the PRI in the context where the calls from the sip account enter your dialplan. |
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15:01.33 | MatBoy | jaytee: bri in my case, I have some pri ones, but this is internally :) |
15:02.48 | jaytee | MatBoy, bri or pri, it shouldn't matter if it's setup to use zaptel |
15:03.01 | MatBoy | jaytee: ok :) |
15:03.24 | MatBoy | I stil have to use my 4x PRI cards once |
15:07.03 | MatBoy | btw, if someone ever used destar, is it known that the config file is rewritten to .orig every time ? |
15:17.24 | tzafrir_laptop | pif, I packaged both FreePBX and asterisk-gui . They are available in the repository at 'deb http://updates.xorcom.com/rapid etch main' |
15:17.35 | tzafrir_laptop | I suspect it will work for other ditst as well |
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15:17.57 | tzafrir_laptop | But they have not yet been uploaded to Debian for various reasons |
15:18.05 | MatBoy | tzafrir_laptop: ubuntu will work |
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15:19.30 | pif | tzafrir_laptop: I use neither packages |
15:21.42 | jaytee | tzafrir_laptop, do you know of any CentOS 5 rpms for FreePBX and asterisk-gui? |
15:24.04 | tzafrir_laptop | jaytee, there seem to be vaious packages in e.g. elastix and trixbox |
15:24.23 | tzafrir_laptop | freepbx is tricky to properly package |
15:24.32 | Qwell | tzafrir_laptop: howso? |
15:25.00 | tzafrir_laptop | asterisk-gui? not aware at the moment |
15:25.12 | tzafrir_laptop | but this one is rather easy to package |
15:25.36 | Qwell | we package it for ABE. Wasn't too difficult to do |
15:25.52 | Qwell | (asterisk-gui, that is) |
15:26.03 | tzafrir_laptop | Qwell, I was referring to freepbx. It has various components that step over each other |
15:26.09 | Qwell | ahh, silly |
15:26.19 | tzafrir_laptop | And various places that decide to change permissions |
15:28.28 | jaytee | I'm currently using just Asterisk 1.4 but eventually I will want to provide a GUI for setting up extensions and possibly for producing CDR reports but I don't need anything more than that. |
15:31.37 | jaytee | but because I've setup * to handle calls outbound to our telco over 1 PRI and to 4 digit extensions on a Nortel Opt11c on another PRI I've had to use some tricky dialplan coding that FreePBX would hose in a heartbeat. |
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15:36.07 | ThOr101 | I've installed & run asterisk before, but I'm still a noob. Last time I d/l & compiled. Now I see packages for Fedora 9. I downloaded the zaptel packages but "modprobe wctdm" doesn't seem to work. Is it true the zaptel rpms don't actually contain the kernel modules? |
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15:42.42 | MatBoy | I have msidn-init installed and started, but I still get: For some reason, I could not grab scan.html, is the misdn-init tool installed? |
15:42.56 | MatBoy | *misdn-init |
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15:44.15 | MatBoy | ok, I might need a reboot |
15:44.15 | MatBoy | brb |
15:45.02 | TedNJ38 | I am having some serious problems with Trixbox. I would like to start playing with a more stable distro of Asterisk. Any suggestions? |
15:45.34 | pif | whispers *debian* |
15:46.04 | TedNJ38 | Is there a package easy to use to implement asterisk in Debian? |
15:46.30 | pif | of course |
15:46.48 | TedNJ38 | What is the name of it? |
15:46.59 | pif | take a wild guess |
15:48.29 | TedNJ38 | I don't know. |
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15:50.52 | TommyBJ | it is called asterisk ... naturally |
15:51.10 | pif | no shit? |
15:51.36 | TommyBJ | quite shit |
15:52.48 | pif | Tommy gets a BJ |
15:55.37 | TedNJ38 | Is it better than Trixbox? |
15:55.42 | TedNJ38 | Does it have a friendly web interface? |
15:55.57 | ThOr101 | Will it clean my kitchen drains? |
15:56.16 | jaytee | it'll leave your dishes spotless |
15:56.41 | [netman] | u cannot compare a back-end to a front-end |
15:57.41 | ThOr101 | Can anyone confirm either 1) This is true 2) I'm blind. The RPMs for zaptel on Fedora 9 don't actually contain the kernel modules / drivers. |
15:58.23 | Qwell | ThOr101: they do, you just have to figure out the name of the modules package |
15:58.33 | Qwell | hint: yum search |
15:58.50 | ThOr101 | Should I be looking for wctdm for my TDM card? |
15:58.57 | Qwell | yum search zaptel |
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15:59.46 | ThOr101 | Qwell : Yeah, I did that. But wctdm.so doesn't show up anywhere in any of those files zaptel-1.4.9 (as well as devel, lib & utils) |
16:01.13 | ThOr101 | wctdm.mod actually |
16:01.58 | ThOr101 | I have the old directories around from my old installation, so I can see what files are supposed to be there. They don't appear in the available RPMs. I'm fine downloading and installing, but I just thought it wierd to have zaptel rpm's without kernel modules. |
16:04.21 | tzafrir_laptop | ThOr101, wctdm.ko is you're talking about Linux |
16:05.03 | ThOr101 | Ah, yes. I see that in the old asterisk installation. |
16:05.25 | ThOr101 | but nowhere in the current directories with the rpm's. (Thanks for the redirect) |
16:05.25 | tzafrir_laptop | wonders if ThOr101 comes from a BSD background |
16:05.45 | ThOr101 | I've tried BSD twice, and I wasn't very good at it ;-) |
16:05.56 | tzafrir_laptop | The zaptel rpm package of Fedora contains only userspace and not the kernel, IIRC |
16:06.14 | ThOr101 | Ahh excellent. Then I'll go d/l & compile |
16:06.17 | ThOr101 | That seems weird! |
16:06.40 | ThOr101 | Oh, do I need to download dahdi or something, or are we still good with zaptel? |
16:06.42 | tzafrir_laptop | Some other zaptel rpm packages have a separate package (kernel-version-dependent) for the actual modules |
16:07.06 | tzafrir_laptop | dahdi has not yet been released. For now you should thus use zaptel |
16:07.22 | ThOr101 | Thank you VERY much for this info. |
16:08.05 | tzafrir_laptop | Is there a documented way to use zaptel with the Fedora packages? |
16:08.20 | ThOr101 | Are you asking me? |
16:08.43 | ThOr101 | I haven't found anything. |
16:08.54 | ThOr101 | I'm mostly relying on what I did when I was doing this all from source. |
16:09.16 | ThOr101 | I'm not a complicated setup, just an IVR on a distinctive ring line. |
16:11.01 | TedNJ38 | What version of Debian do I have to have if I want to install Asterisk? |
16:12.23 | hardwire | blah |
16:12.36 | mwalling | TedNJ38: a version named after a toy story character |
16:12.49 | Qwell | mwalling: sid? |
16:12.54 | pif | TedNJ38: 'testing' works |
16:12.59 | mwalling | ok, except for sid |
16:13.02 | mwalling | he breaks toys |
16:13.06 | Qwell | :p |
16:13.12 | mwalling | (or just install slackware) |
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16:15.14 | cjk | hi, which IRQ value is correct. the one from lspci -v or the one from lspci -vb ? |
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16:17.07 | hardwire | mwalling: they sorta all are. |
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16:17.24 | mwalling | hardwire: .... that was the point |
16:17.32 | hardwire | so yer just being silly |
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16:49.15 | MatBoy | someone any idea how to solve |
16:49.18 | MatBoy | For some reason, I could not grab scan.html, is the misdn-init tool installed? |
16:49.31 | MatBoy | on ubuntu when the tool itself, misdn-init works ? |
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19:15.56 | monstertruck | quick question guys, I cant find a reason for this anywhere in the iax2 draft |
19:16.10 | monstertruck | I get this HANGUP from * |
19:16.23 | monstertruck | Tx-Frame Retry[000] -- OSeqno: 003 ISeqno: 002 Type: IAX Subclass: HANGUP |
19:16.23 | monstertruck | <PROTECTED> |
19:16.23 | monstertruck | <PROTECTED> |
19:16.33 | monstertruck | and send this ACK |
19:16.43 | monstertruck | Rx-Frame Retry[ No] -- OSeqno: 002 ISeqno: 003 Type: IAX Subclass: ACK |
19:16.43 | monstertruck | <PROTECTED> |
19:16.51 | monstertruck | as far as I can tell, my ack is well formed |
19:17.07 | monstertruck | why does * feel the need to retransmit the HANGUP two more times? |
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19:18.17 | macw | hi |
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19:42.04 | dlynes | monstertruck: are you using libiax2, or your own iax2 library, or is this something between two asterisk boxes? |
19:43.11 | monstertruck | dlynes, my own library |
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19:53.07 | linagee | is there a way to not pay the phone company a single cent every month and still live a happy and healthy life? |
19:53.51 | TJNII | Yes. |
19:54.09 | linagee | TJNII: how?? |
19:54.31 | linagee | TJNII: i find myself still paying them indirectly in some way. :( |
19:54.44 | outtolunc | shoot someone and walk into the local pd with gun in hand.. from then on out 'others' will have to pay, as prisons only use 'collect calling' |
19:54.48 | TJNII | You have to change your priorities so that you don't want their services. |
19:54.49 | linagee | TJNII: whether it's having to own a cellphone or paying even a single cent a month in landline or voip services |
19:55.08 | outtolunc | shakes his head |
19:55.12 | linagee | TJNII: i'm saying if i went 100% voip, could i still communicate with the world in every way i need to? |
19:55.34 | TJNII | You asked if it is doable, not if it is feasable for you. ;) |
19:55.43 | ManxPower | linagee: Well, at least if your ITSP, ISP, and all ISPs between you and the provider is working. |
19:55.48 | linagee | TJNII: if i cancelled everything and just had a skype account and wrote in applications: "call my skype name, this is 2008 for godsakes" |
19:56.01 | linagee | ManxPower: and minus an ITSP too |
19:56.10 | j0 | what password are polycom phones set to by default for the fpt. login PlcmSplp, password? |
19:56.16 | linagee | ManxPower: i'm saying is there some way i can just cut that all out of my monthly budget |
19:56.32 | ManxPower | j0: password defaults to be the same as the login |
19:56.33 | linagee | ManxPower: (and the last part of my question, "and still lead a healthy happy life") |
19:56.45 | monstertruck | you still need internet, which will probably come from your telephone company anyways... |
19:56.59 | ManxPower | linagee: I guess that depends on how important phone service is to you. |
19:57.10 | linagee | monstertruck: internet will always be a requirement for me. but i continue to find cheaper and cheaper providers for that |
19:57.33 | ManxPower | For me, if I don't have phone service, I cannot work. |
19:57.34 | linagee | ManxPower: not very. i'd like to screw ma bell in the greatest possible way. i don't want to pay any "phone tax" at all |
19:57.39 | j0 | ManxPower: thanks :) |
19:57.52 | linagee | ManxPower: does my fire department have a "click for incidents"? hrm... now that would be one to worry about. lol |
19:58.11 | ManxPower | I would never bother to call someone using Skype. |
19:58.16 | linagee | ManxPower: or voip |
19:58.22 | ManxPower | If they don't have a PSTN number, I'm not interested in calling them. |
19:58.24 | linagee | ManxPower: skype is just easier to call for instance, my parents |
19:58.49 | outtolunc | your share quota has not been met this month, we are sorry we cannot connect you to emergency services at this time |
19:58.50 | linagee | ManxPower: when will a sip address be acceptable on any application? hah. :( |
19:59.02 | linagee | outtolunc: darn! lol |
19:59.11 | ManxPower | linagee: never I hope |
19:59.23 | linagee | ManxPower: cell phones only seem to be increasing in price |
19:59.35 | ManxPower | and? |
19:59.37 | linagee | of course because they have to keep up with the economy / inflation / etc. |
19:59.41 | ManxPower | So is bread, milk, and gas |
19:59.57 | linagee | ManxPower: these can be grown if you choose. cell phones cannot. :) |
20:00.10 | ManxPower | Sometimes you must do business with the Devil, phone service is just one of those things. |
20:00.18 | linagee | ManxPower: or like, "just email me" |
20:00.25 | ManxPower | much like TV and internet service. |
20:00.28 | linagee | ManxPower: TV?? |
20:00.33 | linagee | ManxPower: i don't pay for TV anymore |
20:00.35 | linagee | or ever |
20:00.47 | linagee | ManxPower: networks provide the content on their own websites. why pay anybody? |
20:00.50 | linagee | et |
20:00.52 | linagee | etc |
20:00.54 | linagee | fox.com |
20:00.54 | ManxPower | linagee: then you don't have that service, but if you did pay for TV, you would not have much choice. |
20:01.35 | ManxPower | linagee: *nod* I can't undertand why someone would want to watch a show in good quality on their television when they can watch it in a highly compressed crappy quality on their PC? |
20:01.50 | linagee | ManxPower: phones just suck when you think about it though. you're paying so much money for so little bandwidth |
20:01.57 | ManxPower | This is the internet people, you must lower your expectations! |
20:02.01 | linagee | it's almost as bad as text messages |
20:02.37 | linagee | ManxPower: the PC version is actually of higher quality |
20:02.52 | linagee | ManxPower: i don't have an HD tv but fox.com delivers the video in HD quality |
20:02.52 | ManxPower | linagee: I'm a special case, I have bandwidth caps |
20:03.26 | ManxPower | *shrug* If I want to watch a show, I turn on my TV and press the TiVo button on my remote control. |
20:03.45 | ManxPower | doesn't get much simpler than that. |
20:04.09 | linagee | ManxPower: how do you select content that's not "prescribed" for you by the networks though? |
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20:04.39 | ManxPower | linagee: I watch one of the non-networks, like CurrentTV, LinkTV, etc. |
20:04.44 | linagee | i love tivo. but it does seem like a band aid |
20:05.21 | outtolunc | dual tuner tivo is da shit <G> |
20:05.27 | ManxPower | linagee: your argument is mostly emotional. i.e. I have the phone company, I hate the TV empires |
20:05.41 | outtolunc | (especially with multiple boxes) |
20:05.46 | ManxPower | outtolunc: I have a DirecTivo, which is dual tuner and yes it rocks |
20:05.51 | outtolunc | me too |
20:06.01 | outtolunc | (i was being 'general') |
20:06.02 | linagee | ManxPower: it's not hate. purely economics on the part of my budget |
20:06.04 | ManxPower | hacked to allow the networking and bigger HD |
20:06.15 | linagee | ManxPower: if i say i cannot afford a cellphone, could i still live day to day? :-/ |
20:06.42 | linagee | if i'm not available, i'm not available... |
20:06.56 | ManxPower | linagee: many people live without any form of phone service. Heck, one of my friends, Hippie Richard has lived in a tent for the past 10 years. |
20:07.01 | outtolunc | manx, you see they are now allowing you to 'set what to record' online |
20:07.07 | linagee | hippie richard. lol |
20:07.44 | ManxPower | outtolunc: DirectV? Does it require a software upgrade? (My DirecTivo never connects to the internet or phone) |
20:07.59 | outtolunc | not from what they mentioned in the advert |
20:07.59 | ManxPower | linagee: he really is a hippie |
20:08.05 | linagee | ManxPower: i believe it |
20:08.16 | outtolunc | just login to your account (from wherever) and set/unset recordings |
20:08.29 | ManxPower | outtolunc: into my DirecTV account? |
20:08.39 | outtolunc | yep |
20:09.02 | outtolunc | haven't done it myself yet |
20:09.11 | linagee | ManxPower: seriously though. if companies are saying "screw snail mail, we're just going to be sending you the bill online. less clutter on your side anyway." shouldn't emergency services (police/fire/etc) also be available online? |
20:09.33 | ManxPower | outtolunc: I don't see it on my account |
20:09.47 | linagee | ManxPower: i guess the stumbling block there would be getting highly available internet to every home. (that won't be screwed up by power outages/etc.) |
20:09.49 | outtolunc | i'm checking also.. after i update all this crap |
20:10.41 | ManxPower | outtolunc: I may have found it, under DirecTV on Demand |
20:11.25 | ManxPower | outtolunc: looks like it will work. I'll have to try it. |
20:13.10 | outtolunc | kewl |
20:13.31 | outtolunc | also check out 'dvr scheduler mobile beta' |
20:13.53 | ManxPower | my cell phone doesn't work with "mobile" anything. 8-) |
20:14.10 | outtolunc | i'm sure you can mod something asterisk in it's place |
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20:16.22 | dlynes | monstertruck: I think a better channel to ask that problem would be in #asterisk-dev, then...that's where the developers hang out....end-users generally don't know a lot about code |
20:16.37 | outtolunc | ummm tv listings also lets you select 'record to receiver' |
20:17.51 | outtolunc | and lets you select which receiver to record it too <G> |
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20:38.02 | monstertruck | dlynes, thanks |
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21:40.07 | Scrye | Hello, as of asterisk 1.6, my DISA is not working anymore. the DISA module loads, authenticates, and selects the proper context |
21:40.10 | Scrye | but i dont get any dialtone |
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21:51.02 | tompaw | what is the easiest way to generate CDRs on asterisk? |
21:52.29 | RypPn | make calls? |
21:52.53 | tompaw | right ;) |
21:52.59 | tompaw | are those generated by default? |
21:53.21 | Scrye | <PROTECTED> |
21:53.26 | Scrye | the cdr files are usually in there |
21:53.36 | tompaw | love it! I love this software! |
22:01.58 | blinky42 | hello - anyone know of off-the-shelf router/gateways that are avilable in the US that will work as a proxy for SIP so I can send out some polycom phones to remote workers with minimal install problems on their end? |
22:02.16 | blinky42 | i know i can set up alinux box to do that, but i don't want to walk them through that kind of hassle. |
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22:04.53 | zeeqy | hi...need some help with conference calls...anyone? |
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22:21.06 | wonderworld | is there a way to broadcast video to multiple clients with asterisk? |
22:22.48 | TrentCreek | meetme |
22:24.21 | TrentCreek | meetme2 |
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22:26.02 | MatBoy | mhh I don't get it, that install script for HFC cards is not updated to 1.4.21 :S |
22:26.23 | MatBoy | so I can only chose 1.4.17 which is downloaded and patched on a 1.4.21 install |
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22:26.36 | TrentCreek | http://www.google.com/search?num=20&hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=JSx&q=asterisk+video+conferencing&btnG=Search |
22:28.04 | TrentCreek | wow...funny what a little ol google can do |
22:28.05 | TrentCreek | Videoswitching in MeetMe |
22:28.05 | TrentCreek | by Lorenzo Miniero on Tuesday 19 of June, 2007 [09:01:10] |
22:28.05 | TrentCreek | Hi all, |
22:28.05 | TrentCreek | you can get information upon videomixing functionality in MeetMe on this post I wrote on the Asterisk-video mailing list: |
22:28.06 | TrentCreek | http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-video/2007-June/000735.html |
22:28.08 | TrentCreek | It's mostly related to an open source conferencing framework we're developing on the basis of MeetMe (http://confiance.sf.net) but it allows videomixing for normal MeetMe conferences as well. |
22:34.47 | jaytee | so you can use X-Lite and have videoconferencing with video windows for each participant? cool! |
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22:44.26 | TrentCreek | groovy |
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23:01.40 | hsv-al | . |
23:02.04 | Strom_C | do I fucking look like SMTP to you? |
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23:03.44 | zeeqy | hi all...looking for VoIP codec monitoring software to monitor the bandwidth during the active calls...plz help |
23:04.01 | Strom_C | why not just a regular old traffic analysis toolkit |
23:04.32 | zeeqy | Strom_C:...plz give me a link...thanks |
23:04.53 | Strom_C | zeeqy: there are plenty of them out there |
23:05.11 | Strom_C | what exactly are you trying to determine? |
23:05.54 | zeeqy | Ok, I want to be able to see how much bandwidth an active call is consuming...thats all... |
23:06.03 | Strom_C | what codec, and what protocol? |
23:06.21 | zeeqy | I can see in asterisk...that what codec has been used during the call by "sip show channels" |
23:06.46 | Strom_C | what codec are you using? |
23:06.55 | Strom_C | and which protocol? (I'm assuming SIP) |
23:07.05 | zeeqy | I m using "g729,ilbc,g723,speex" |
23:07.21 | zeeqy | SIP yes.... |
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23:08.05 | Strom_C | ok, which codec is your call ACTUALLY using? |
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23:08.44 | Strom_C | (boy, I really love having to extract information instead of just having people tell it to me on the first try) |
23:08.50 | Xamusk | can asterisk be used as an ATA, using a modem? |
23:08.52 | zeeqy | g729 most of the time... |
23:08.59 | Strom_C | Xamusk: no |
23:09.12 | eXistenZ | What processor would be enough for 1 fxo 4 fxs? |
23:09.17 | eXistenZ | home use |
23:09.21 | Xamusk | too bad :( that would be a nice feature |
23:09.36 | Strom_C | zeeqy: G.729a (8kbps payload) over SIP (16kbps overhead) = 24kbps per call |
23:09.49 | Strom_C | Xamusk: you can use an FXO/FXS card |
23:10.09 | Strom_C | eXistenZ: anything that's been made within the last five years should be more than adequate |
23:10.29 | Xamusk | Strom_C, I guess it's just cheaper to buy an ATA. it would also save energy |
23:10.30 | eXistenZ | Strom_C, p3? |
23:11.00 | Strom_C | eXistenZ: my first asterisk box was a 933MHz PIII with 128MB of RAM |
23:11.17 | Strom_C | and if that worked in 2004, it'll probably work now |
23:11.24 | eXistenZ | I wonder whether there are some small computers |
23:11.25 | zeeqy | Strom_C: i have different phone supporting different codecs so the usage is kinda mix...I just want to plan my local area network to accomodate for such traffic...if there is any software where i can see real-time codec consumption on calls |
23:11.33 | eXistenZ | Strom_C, with like small cases |
23:11.50 | Strom_C | zeeqy: fuck real-time data collection, just do the math ahead of time and it'll be quicker |
23:12.05 | zeeqy | lol....lol |
23:12.20 | Strom_C | eXistenZ: I'm sure there are. I'm not a computer catalog, so I would assume you'd be better off looking in one than asking me |
23:12.44 | zeeqy | thanks Storm...that was a short n sweet answer...i must say...lol |
23:13.11 | Strom_C | who is Storm? |
23:13.22 | zeeqy | Strom...sorry |
23:13.46 | Strom_C | zeeqy: figure 16kbps overhead, plus the various codec payload sizes |
23:13.56 | Strom_C | zeeqy: is this over your WAN connection? |
23:14.28 | Xamusk | an FXO/FXS card is 6.5x more expensive than an ATA |
23:15.15 | zeeqy | Strom_C...this is on my LAN and WAN both...I have a few mobile phones connected to Asterisk with extensions...thats why its a bit important to monitor codecs and then able to implement suitable codecs |
23:15.40 | Strom_C | Xamusk: so just buy an ATA and be done with it |
23:15.55 | Xamusk | Strom_C, I guess |
23:16.04 | Strom_C | zeeqy: use G.711 on your LAN and have Asterisk transcode to something lower-bandwidth for calls that go over the WAN |
23:16.16 | _ShrikE | zeeqy: If you are running windows wineyeq is not bad. http://www.touchstone-inc.com/analysis.html |
23:16.18 | Strom_C | just pick one codec so you make your calculations easier |
23:17.44 | zeeqy | this is exactly what i m doing now...was asked to make a list with report to complete my test in the vasity...thanks..I guess the name u gave me brought some monitoring tools...was just wondering which one can show me codec bandwidth utilization...thanks once again |
23:17.58 | Strom_C | zeeqy: listen to me |
23:18.05 | Strom_C | YOU DON'T NEED TO DO REAL-TIME REPORTING |
23:18.07 | zeeqy | sure...Strom |
23:18.18 | Strom_C | sit down and calculate the bandwidth |
23:19.23 | Strom_C | hell, you don't even need to do that |
23:19.49 | zeeqy | its a test...the teacher wants us to use certain tools to be able to monitor traffic...though I did some packet capturing for him but no good...i dont know what exactly does he have in mind by using tools for real time monitoring....!!! |
23:19.50 | Strom_C | just use a slightly generous estimate of 32kbps per call |
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23:20.13 | Strom_C | oh, you're doing this for a class, not for an actual real-world install |
23:21.03 | zeeqy | Strom_c: yes for a class...otherwise as u said..to hell with real time..do the meth...I 100% agree |
23:21.25 | Strom_C | hey now, I never told you to do meth |
23:21.45 | zeeqy | i mean calculation...quite simple... |
23:21.58 | Strom_C | MATH |
23:21.59 | Strom_C | not METH |
23:22.03 | Strom_C | please read carefully |
23:22.03 | Strom_C | thanks |
23:22.09 | zeeqy | lol |
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23:22.48 | zeeqy | so..Strom my question still stands...is there anything like that or m i just chasing the wind? |
23:23.23 | ManxPower | zeeqy: what specifically are you looking for? |
23:23.24 | zeeqy | sorry for my typing mistakes...i hate laptop keybord...lol |
23:23.33 | Strom_C | like I said, there are DOZENS of tools out there |
23:23.37 | Strom_C | www.google.com |
23:24.08 | zeeqy | ManxPower: I just want to monitor codec real-time bandwidth consumption during the call on asterisk box |
23:24.23 | ManxPower | zeeqy: there is nothing on this channel that will help you with that. |
23:24.41 | ManxPower | Mainly because you already KNOW how much bandwidth will be used. |
23:24.50 | zeeqy | any suggestion? Manx??? |
23:24.55 | ManxPower | ~bandwidth |
23:24.56 | jbot | i heard bandwidth is This is a measure, in some amount of bits per second, of theamount of data that can be sent over a particular cable, interface, orbus. |
23:25.23 | ManxPower | zeeqy: the exact same suggestion as Strom_C. Calculate it. |
23:26.06 | ManxPower | You know how much bandwidth your codec uses, you know how much overhead there is, you add the two togather and you get the per call bandwidth usage. This is not rocket science or even 11th grade math. |
23:26.47 | zeeqy | ManxPower:..i do have that...and I have the whole table with me..I know tht calculation in my head....but its for my class...the teacher wants us to do something with this tool...he must have something in mind...i have no clue...but thanks anyway |
23:26.54 | De_Mon | its a word problem! |
23:27.10 | ManxPower | zeeqy: then stop wasting your time here and go find one. Nobody here will be able to help you. |
23:27.49 | Strom_C | ManxPower: come on, don't you know it's so much easier to wring your hands and ask endless questions on IRC than it is to type "traffic analysis tool" into google? |
23:27.55 | zeeqy | thanks...on my way...lol...have wonderful time guys...I thought somebody might used something similar |
23:33.23 | eXistenZ | Strom_C, what kind of nice ideas can you do with asterisk? :] |
23:34.34 | MatBoy | is misdn show stacks |
23:34.39 | MatBoy | not supported anymore ? |
23:36.00 | Strom_C | eXistenZ: that question makes little sense |
23:36.05 | Strom_C | you can't "do" ideas |
23:36.08 | eXistenZ | quite so |
23:36.18 | eXistenZ | erm, apply |
23:37.57 | Strom_C | eXistenZ: don't go chasing frivolous ideas; find actual problems you need to solve and then solve them |
23:38.15 | eXistenZ | Strom_C, I had some problem, namely blocking anonymous calls, and solved it |
23:38.22 | eXistenZ | Strom_C, that's why I installed asterisk |
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