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00:07.01 | Strom | wheeeeeeeeeeeeee |
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00:20.10 | [TK]D-Fender | ~whee |
00:20.10 | jbot | [~whee] Weeeeeeeee! http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/weeee |
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00:24.30 | trelane | is nufone having problems with inbound tf service? |
00:24.47 | trelane | I've been informed that I can't make international calls when I'm trying to hit my 800 number?!? |
00:26.27 | mosty | ask them? |
00:26.46 | trelane | yeah not much luck with that |
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00:50.27 | B1ST | hello guys, i bought a router today and configured it, my internetconnection works fine but when i'm plugin' an IP phone, my inetconnection went down, what can causes tje problem for that? |
00:51.21 | mosty | are you plugging in the sip phone correctly? |
00:51.58 | B1ST | i got a grandstream, so i plugged the 2 utp-cables directly in the router yeah |
00:52.08 | mosty | 2 cables? |
00:52.24 | mosty | that sounds wrong. check your installation manual |
00:52.31 | B1ST | hmmm |
00:55.26 | B1ST | that can be the problem yeah |
00:55.28 | B1ST | :) |
00:55.40 | B1ST | phone is up now, whit an ip |
00:56.48 | B1ST | lol, what a stupid fault :/ |
01:02.16 | Strom | next time, read the labels on the jacks before you blindly go plugging things in |
01:08.19 | B1ST | heh, yeah :/ |
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01:18.25 | drmessano | ZOMG |
01:18.34 | drmessano | ASTERISK 1.4.21 RELEASED |
01:18.38 | drmessano | TORRENT PLZ!!!! |
01:23.41 | jaytee | hehehe |
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01:25.13 | jaytee | I can hardly wait for Asterisk 1.6.0beta36 |
01:26.26 | Corydon76-dig | Hey, now... we're just trying to make sure it's stable before release |
01:26.38 | jaytee | just joking |
01:26.38 | drmessano | I hear beta 36.1 is gonna rock |
01:27.25 | drmessano | Of course, could be more like Justin Frankel with Reaper |
01:27.50 | drmessano | 2.1.1117 **Fixed typo in "the" on page 118 of user docs* |
01:28.23 | drmessano | 2.1.1118 **Rename guitar tab to Guitar* |
01:28.28 | jaytee | I'm still running 1.4.15 and it's behaving rock solid for me and I'm using it to do alot of bridging between channels on 2 PRI's as well as MeetMe and routing to Exchange UM for voicemail. |
01:29.18 | drmessano | 1.4.15 was decent.. Then there were the iffy releases of .16 .17 and .18 |
01:29.37 | drmessano | .19 and .20 so far have rocked.. and been better than the previous, by leaps and bounds |
01:29.39 | jaytee | only have 11 SIP clients at the moment though and one of them is a fax. |
01:29.49 | nick125 | reads the .21 changelog... |
01:30.11 | jaytee | so not much of a load for a Quad Core Xeon :-) |
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01:44.06 | tzanger | wow it's damn quiet in here |
01:44.19 | LiNeTuX|Home | and you just ruined it |
01:44.26 | tzanger | yeah, I'm good at that |
01:45.09 | LiNeTuX|Home | it was a mile a minute in here last night |
01:45.37 | tzanger | oh I know I've been hanging out in here for... probably 3 years now? |
01:45.42 | tzanger | more than that I bet |
01:45.50 | LiNeTuX|Home | feel any smarter? |
01:45.58 | seanbright | don't answer that |
01:46.01 | seanbright | it's a trap! |
01:46.01 | tzanger | haha |
01:46.03 | LiNeTuX|Home | heh |
01:46.27 | tzanger | --- Log opened Mon Dec 06 10:47:11 2004 |
01:46.45 | tzanger | that's the earliest time I logged in to this channel |
01:47.05 | LiNeTuX|Home | that's pretty crazy that you have that log so easily available to you |
01:47.23 | tzanger | $ wc -l \#asterisk.log |
01:47.24 | tzanger | 4377076 #asterisk.log |
01:47.36 | tzanger | only 4 million lines |
01:47.39 | tzanger | that's kind of depressing |
01:48.11 | LiNeTuX|Home | 4 million lines, 10,000 wroth anything and 3,999,990,000 of crap |
01:48.21 | LiNeTuX|Home | oh wait, that was too many ;) |
01:49.29 | LiNeTuX|Home | just found out tonight his provider gave him 90 DID's they didn't have rights to anymore |
01:49.46 | nick125 | *ouch* |
01:49.50 | tzanger | december 6 2004 was when I set up this xen instance I guess |
01:49.52 | LiNeTuX|Home | yeah |
01:50.08 | tzanger | yikes that isn't good |
01:50.15 | nick125 | LiNeTuX|Home: So you have to get new DIDs? |
01:50.38 | LiNeTuX|Home | nick125: yup. fortunately we hadn't published or given out any yet... still testing new PRI's |
01:50.55 | tzanger | $ du -hs irclogs/ |
01:50.56 | tzanger | 579M irclogs/ |
01:50.57 | tzanger | heh |
01:50.58 | LiNeTuX|Home | they worked great for testing, too... so long as you used them on their network, they routed perfectly |
01:51.20 | tzanger | all of the IRC logs over the last 4 years for every network, channel and privmsg I've ever been involved with fit on a single CD |
01:51.25 | nick125 | LiNeTuX|Home: Well, I guess it's best you found it now rather than later. |
01:51.52 | LiNeTuX|Home | knows better than to give things out before fully testing them :) |
01:55.18 | plik | all the incoming calls I've had since February fit on a single DVD :) |
01:56.31 | jaytee | everything I've ever learned would fit on a 360K 5 1/2" floppy disk |
01:56.47 | LiNeTuX|Home | needs a usb plug for his head |
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02:18.32 | mltlnx | Hello, How do I specify an order to the files played in MOH? |
02:20.43 | mltlnx | It always seems to play in a random order even though I do not have random => yes is musiconhold.conf? |
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02:26.26 | mosty | mltlnx, you could just use a single premixed file |
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02:27.47 | mltlnx | true....but then i would need to script this...Do you know of a command that can do this? |
02:28.32 | unpaidbill | hrm, i think i need to start using AstDB for my internal phone extensions, i have sip, skinny and zap phones and two gigantic cotexts .. one for pstn incoming calls and the other for internal calls between extensions... ugh |
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02:28.52 | unpaidbill | i guess that's the best way to do it? |
02:29.25 | mosty | mltlnx, sox can probably do it |
02:29.55 | mltlnx | thanks, I try that. |
02:29.56 | mosty | unpaidbill, perhaps you can describe the problem a bit more? |
02:30.26 | unpaidbill | there isnt really a problem, im just trying to clean up my phone extension contexts a bit |
02:31.00 | unpaidbill | trying to figure out the best, or most widely accepted, way of doing it |
02:31.24 | mosty | astdb is probably not what you want |
02:32.10 | unpaidbill | so just making contexts [external-extension-list] [internal-extension-list] with a bunch of entries in each (Because i have to specify zap/sccp/sip phone types) is the best way? or is there something i am missing |
02:34.14 | mosty | personally i would use an sql database (like postgresql) to store the info, and use a script to write out the non-generic parts of your dialplan |
02:34.43 | mosty | and your sip.conf / etc files |
02:37.19 | LiNeTuX|Home | you could use winfs to store everything in a cool database |
02:37.41 | [TK]D-Fender | unpaidbill: if all of your phones have the same rights and the extensions apply to each, then sure, it could be just 2 big contexts. |
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02:47.17 | dongs | how do i dial() 2 placs at once and ignore any possible failure from one of hte places? |
02:47.29 | dongs | sip/foo&iax/bar for example |
02:47.36 | dongs | either could be offline. |
02:48.24 | Strom | Dial() should ignore the failure |
02:49.55 | dongs | apparently it doesnt? |
02:50.22 | dongs | Jun 14 11:41:56 NOTICE[5034]: app_dial.c:1056 dial_exec_full: Unable to create channel of type 'SIP' (cause 3 - No route to destination) |
02:50.31 | dongs | and it drops the call. |
02:51.51 | [TK]D-Fender | pastebin the failed attempt at verbose 10 |
02:51.57 | [TK]D-Fender | ~pb |
02:51.57 | jbot | [~pb] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste |
02:51.59 | [TK]D-Fender | ^^^^^^^^^ |
02:52.21 | dongs | waht |
02:53.00 | [TK]D-Fender | dongs: Show us the complete CLI output of your failed call. |
02:53.02 | dongs | same shit. its not printing any more shit that it did at 3. |
02:53.34 | dongs | its calling a peer over iax on remote machine which is down |
02:53.46 | dongs | as wlel as dialing a local peer. |
02:54.55 | [TK]D-Fender | dongs please show us the call... |
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04:24.01 | jblack | I called someone 188 times last night. |
04:24.09 | jblack | in the space of 3 minutes. |
04:25.34 | _mm_ | woops |
04:25.51 | jblack | grins |
04:25.59 | raytruz` | Needless to say they are on your DNC now ? :-) |
04:26.07 | jblack | Nope. |
04:26.52 | jblack | A while back I setup a 511 extension for tech support for a call center. Calls that break badly are sent to 511. |
04:27.19 | jblack | well, his cell phone is in that mix. So, he got a call at 3am, answered it, got a call on call waiting, answered it. Hung up the phone, got two more. :) |
04:28.29 | jblack | The intent was to test the zttest the pri under load, but found out they're limiting to 10 concurrent calls without realizing it. |
04:39.35 | raytruz` | how come while i'm on a call, i cannot see any foreign address with netstat -anp |
04:40.59 | EnterUserName | hi if dtfmode is not set properly in asterisk woudl hat mess up outbound calls |
04:41.13 | EnterUserName | i used AUTO for inbound and it is working however outbound calls keep saying this account is not valid |
04:41.31 | jblack | EnterUserName: screwing with dtmfmode will only screw up button pushing. |
04:41.40 | EnterUserName | hmm. |
04:41.52 | EnterUserName | Ok. Well my register requires an authid and extension |
04:41.59 | EnterUserName | how can i set an extension for outbound is that needed? |
04:42.25 | jblack | You probably want to fix your sip or iax conf file instead, but.... |
04:42.38 | jblack | Dial(IAX/user:passs@server/Number) |
04:43.10 | jblack | Pardon, IAX2. |
04:43.17 | EnterUserName | hmm im using trixbox for configuration :S. mebbe i should read up on that |
04:43.30 | jblack | You're in the wrong channel. Please read the topic |
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04:43.38 | EnterUserName | thanx |
04:43.40 | EnterUserName | :) |
04:44.06 | jblack | I believe you are not supposed to edit your dialplan with trixbox. |
04:45.00 | EnterUserName | hmm. well there is a place to configure outbound calls which is what ive doen but it keeps spitting out my account is invalid |
04:45.04 | EnterUserName | however incoming works great L) |
04:45.28 | jblack | I don't know anything about trixbox, other than it started off just like asterisk, and has changed much since. |
04:45.55 | EnterUserName | i though tit uses asterisk as a backend |
04:46.06 | EnterUserName | im looking at voip.org for help pon configuring the sip.conf |
04:46.19 | jblack | It forked some time ago. |
04:46.29 | unpaidbill | fender/mosty i guess i'm not doing it in some crazy fashion then, maybe i'll store the information in sql and write a little php script to easily modify my extensions.conf/sip.conf/sccp.conf/zapata.conf ... thanks for the replies |
04:46.56 | jblack | Thats why this channel can't help; basic assumptions made by someone that knows asterisk can be completely flawed in trixbox. |
04:47.09 | EnterUserName | oh.. |
04:47.14 | EnterUserName | thanks for the explanation jblack |
04:47.18 | jblack | welcome |
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05:07.12 | drmessano | Asterisk CE uses Asterisk as it's backend |
05:07.17 | drmessano | Err |
05:07.37 | drmessano | Trixbox CE uses Asterisk as it's backend or core, or however you want to put it |
05:07.50 | drmessano | Trixbox Pro and PBXtra use some forked Asterisk |
05:08.23 | drmessano | Either way, CE uses FreePBX which writes it own config files from a SQL DB |
05:08.41 | drmessano | You can add onto the configs, somewhat.. but you can't edit what is written |
05:08.48 | drmessano | Either way, not supported here |
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05:10.53 | nomad_cz | Hi. Is it possible that two calls via h323 to the same number on asterisk will just kill each other ? They both hang up for some reason :/ |
05:11.22 | nomad_cz | One call a time works ok :/ |
05:14.13 | drmessano | HOLY MOLEY |
05:14.15 | drmessano | http://www.usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/3429.asp |
05:14.17 | drmessano | LOOK AT THAT |
05:14.50 | jblack | Yeah |
05:15.11 | drmessano | That... That is nuts |
05:20.12 | coppice | Stop complaining. That's a bargain compared to a US$2750 2m long mains cable that some people need for their listening pleasure |
05:20.35 | jblack | Is audiophile french for "moron" ? |
05:21.31 | nick125 | jblack: I believe so. |
05:22.11 | coppice | audio == sound |
05:22.13 | coppice | phile == to love |
05:22.15 | coppice | audiophile == to love the sounds of one's own voice, I guess |
05:25.53 | drmessano | No, you have it all wrong |
05:26.01 | drmessano | audio = automatic |
05:26.13 | drmessano | phile = hears things no one else hears |
05:26.24 | drmessano | audiophile = automatically hears things no one else hears |
05:26.31 | nick125 | Audiophile is the love of sound of money being withdrawn from your wallet. |
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05:26.51 | joobie | hey guys |
05:27.20 | joobie | is it possible to setp asterisk so that you can dial into the system remotely and press a number on your phone to then listen realtime to a particular extension? |
05:27.25 | drmessano | If you play a blank CD to an audiophile, he'll hear recording atifacts, digital distortion, and unneccessary pink noise |
05:27.38 | joobie | like asy i have extension 1,2,3,4,5 .. i dial into the system.. then i press the number 1 .. then i can hear the conversation happening on line 1 |
05:31.00 | coppice | the true audiophile can hear the sound of one hand clapping |
05:34.06 | nomad_cz | joobie: ExtenSpy() ? |
05:36.07 | joobie | nomad_cz, im new to asterisk.. need a bit of a hand to select hardware and put together this system |
05:36.20 | joobie | anyone in here knowledable in that area? |
05:37.50 | nomad_cz | joobie: Do not ask me ;) I am stuck myself ;) |
05:38.45 | joobie | eheh |
05:38.50 | joobie | what are you stuck on? |
05:39.53 | nomad_cz | joobie: Two calls at the same time to the same number on asterisk via h323 -> SIP kill each other :/ |
05:40.35 | nomad_cz | joobie: There is EndedByTransportFail error in log but can't make it out ;) |
05:40.57 | nomad_cz | joobie: one call a time works ok thought |
05:45.46 | joobie | ahh |
05:45.50 | joobie | way over my haed hey |
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05:48.48 | nomad_cz | joobie: No one answered yet so probably it is a difficult question ;) |
05:49.29 | joobie | heh |
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05:49.47 | joobie | nomad do you know a good resource to find hardware cards that are supported for asterisk? |
05:50.02 | joobie | i want to hook up 16 analogue telephones to asterisk.. where the asterisk hooks up to a sip provider via the itnernet |
05:50.05 | joobie | duno what hardware |
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05:56.33 | nomad_cz | joobie: Look at http://www.asterisk.org/. |
06:00.28 | joobie | anyone more specific?:P |
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06:01.09 | nomad_cz | joobie: Those are really general question and are described in official docs ;) |
06:01.28 | nomad_cz | joobie: I could copy and paste thought ;) |
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06:07.03 | nomad_cz | Anyone helpful ? ;) |
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06:35.48 | Damin | [Jun 14 02:32:17] NOTICE[6126]: channel.c:3035 ast_request: Zap interface translated to DAHDI. |
06:35.49 | Damin | [Jun 14 02:32:17] -- Requested transfer capability: 0x00 - SPEECH |
06:35.49 | Damin | [Jun 14 02:32:17] -- Called g4/2163620550 |
06:35.49 | Damin | [Jun 14 02:32:17] -- DAHDI/73-1 is proceeding passing it to IAX2/tdm-1-1486 |
06:35.49 | Damin | [Jun 14 02:32:17] -- DAHDI/73-1 answered IAX2/tdm-1-1486 |
06:35.50 | Damin | [Jun 14 02:32:36] -- Hungup 'DAHDI/73-1' |
06:35.53 | Damin | WEll.. |
06:35.55 | Damin | That's new. :) |
06:39.08 | drmessano | ha |
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06:47.35 | nomad_cz | Hi. Is it possible that two calls via h323 to the same number on asterisk will just kill each other ? They both hang up for some reason :/ |
06:47.46 | nomad_cz | One call a time works ok :/ |
06:48.35 | mosty | where is that number routed? |
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07:10.03 | nomad_cz | mosty: via h323 from avaya to one SIP number on asterisk |
07:10.33 | mosty | anything informative in the logs? |
07:10.39 | nomad_cz | mosty: There is EndedByTransportFail error in log but can't make it out |
07:10.50 | nomad_cz | mosty: https://web.farmak.cz/~michal/full.txt |
07:12.20 | nomad_cz | mosty: It seems to me as if those two separated calls were mixed together or something like that. Do not know. |
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07:14.50 | mosty | i have never used h323 before, i can't think of anything obvious for you to check |
07:16.23 | nomad_cz | mosty: neither can I |
07:16.46 | nomad_cz | mosty: It might be an avaya issue, hard to say |
07:24.47 | EnterUserName | i dont think they suport |
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07:38.22 | nomad_cz | EnterUserName: What do you mean ? |
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08:11.37 | jack_sparo | ~buybook |
08:11.38 | jbot | You can buy "Asterisk the Future of Telephony" at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ so go buy it SERIOUSLY |
08:16.24 | nomad_cz | jack_sparo: H323 is not covered :/ |
08:23.07 | mosty | would anyone like to try my patch to chan_iax2.c that adds an IAXCHANINFO function? |
08:28.53 | Strom | would anyone like to try a new kind of comedy that i've been developing on a variety of machines for almost ten seconds? |
08:30.45 | mosty | it works in my tests |
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09:29.18 | SparFux | I am using linux kernel 2.6.25 and have to since earlier versions before 2.6.24 have the vmslice security issue. Unfortunately mISDN other than recent git doesn't compile and the git version crashes whenever I load the capi module. I need capi though for some old windows softare I use with wine. Does anybody know how to actually use mISDN with kernel 2.6.24 or 2.6.25? |
09:34.59 | rootlogin | SparFux: i had the crashes with misdn also .. i downgraded to 2.6.23 that works .. i dont know any other solution |
09:36.07 | rootlogin | SparFux: though i have read that someone carved out the sysfs code from the misdn module to make it work .. but there was no patch available |
09:39.43 | SparFux | Yes, I have read that too. This would be a bad hack, but anyway. Sysfs is only for doing cat /sys/* and I don't think asterisk really needs it. |
09:39.58 | mvanbaak | but misdn does |
09:40.30 | SparFux | You should not let acces any untrustable user your machine. vmslice bug in kernel <= 2.6.24 give root access to any user with one page of screen of code. |
09:40.49 | SparFux | mvanbaak: ok, I don't really use misdn, just as a driver to use capi. |
09:41.45 | mvanbaak | SparFux: the vmsplice bug is fixed in a lot of distro kernels |
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09:42.08 | mvanbaak | for example, I'm running debian with 2.4.18 and they patched it with the fix put in 2.6.24 |
09:42.32 | SparFux | ah! |
09:43.51 | mvanbaak | I dont compile my own kernels anymore. I did so for years, but found it easier to just follow the distro kernel and install every security patch they release |
09:48.54 | mosty | 2.4.18 or 2.6.18 ? |
09:54.46 | mvanbaak | erm |
09:54.48 | mvanbaak | 2.6.18 |
09:54.58 | mvanbaak | Linux shellbox.vanbaak.info 2.6.18-6-xen-686 #1 SMP Sun Feb 10 22:43:13 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux |
09:56.15 | loompek | damnit! |
09:56.22 | loompek | i really hate my n95 |
09:56.35 | loompek | it just doesn't want to connect to the asterisk server |
09:56.49 | mvanbaak | loompek: give it to me ;) |
09:57.06 | mvanbaak | is there a sip client for blackberry ? |
09:57.09 | loompek | why do you need it.. like i said.. it doesn't work |
09:57.14 | loompek | :( |
09:57.24 | loompek | i had more luck with my old qtek 9090 with sjphone.. |
09:57.28 | loompek | and i hate sjphone also... |
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11:27.40 | oilinki | loompek: what's wrong with the n95 connection? |
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11:56.10 | SparFux | rootlogin: there simply is a variable SYSFS_SUPPORT which one would have to #undef |
11:56.54 | rootlogin | oh really ?? and that makes it work as well ??? |
11:59.32 | SparFux | I want to try. |
11:59.55 | SparFux | I am not sure how to do this, Makefile should include CFLAGS+= <#undef SYSFS> something. |
12:01.32 | SparFux | Perhaps there is no patch, because for experienced people it is dirt easy to remove sysfs. |
12:03.07 | rootlogin | hehe well .. i didnt think there was a switch .. and after a quick "grep" i thought on gentoo to remove sysfs-support might not be a good idea anyways |
12:03.23 | James|TCC | no spaces! |
12:03.32 | James|TCC | wrong chan lol |
12:03.38 | rootlogin | gg |
12:04.24 | SparFux | rootlogin: why that? |
12:04.36 | rootlogin | SparFux: if you can get rid of the kernel-panics by recompiling with that switch i would be interested to hear about it ;) |
12:05.03 | SparFux | Yes, I will try to find out how to undef in CFLAGS. |
12:06.16 | rootlogin | SparFux: if i remember right gentoo uses sysfs .. but on the other side i dont know if its needed for misdn |
12:06.35 | SparFux | I think not as long as I only use capi part of misdn. |
12:06.48 | SparFux | gcc has no such command line option. damn. |
12:10.59 | rootlogin | SparFux: why not simply undef it in a central header of the module |
12:11.11 | SparFux | What is a central header? |
12:11.14 | SparFux | I cannot find one. |
12:11.28 | rootlogin | quick n dirty .. hmm |
12:11.31 | SparFux | But I found -U option to gcc, so in Makefile: CFLAGS+=-U SYSFS_SUPPORT |
12:11.46 | SparFux | I have to check it actually is deactivated. |
12:12.48 | SparFux | can the preprocessor echo some output? |
12:13.25 | rootlogin | you can an #ifdef #endif |
12:13.44 | rootlogin | and in between a #error "it is still set !!" |
12:13.49 | rootlogin | for example |
12:14.20 | rootlogin | i will take a look at the sources also |
12:14.54 | rootlogin | takes a second .. have to start up the *-machine |
12:15.33 | SparFux | Well, in drivers/isdn/hardware/mISDN/sysfs.h perhaps |
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12:18.43 | SparFux | well, still set. |
12:20.31 | SparFux | that's crap. I undef and then do ifdef then error, but there is no error. weird. |
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12:23.26 | SparFux | Hm.. I am afraid this variable isn't set anyway. |
12:23.26 | rootlogin | SparFux: why weird ? if you undef .. then its not defined .. so ifdef passes the error |
12:23.39 | SparFux | yes, right. I was wron.g |
12:23.53 | rootlogin | the way it should be ... hehe oh not set anyway :) |
12:24.00 | SparFux | But ifdef -> error doesnt even give an error when I undef nohting, so I think it isn't defined at all. :-( |
12:25.33 | SparFux | This is really weird. It's not defined anyway. |
12:25.39 | rootlogin | oh no .. its supposed to be silent dont worry |
12:26.05 | SparFux | well, then I just define it. |
12:26.07 | rootlogin | if you dont undef and there still is no error well |
12:26.28 | rootlogin | yep or that way .. to check the ifdef |
12:26.35 | SparFux | yes, it is like this. I dont undef without any error. |
12:26.52 | SparFux | to check wether it crashes! |
12:27.01 | SparFux | perhaps WITH sysfs it doesnt crash. |
12:27.33 | rootlogin | hmm |
12:28.34 | SparFux | I might crash now. |
12:28.49 | rootlogin | hehe |
12:28.58 | rootlogin | go ahead :) |
12:30.26 | SparFux | hm... not crashed. |
12:30.35 | SparFux | but the module loading hangs. |
12:31.58 | SparFux | no, there has been a sysfs problem. I can see in the logs. I will have to reboot, my module kernel stuff hangs. :-\ |
12:32.22 | rootlogin | hmm here its undefined as well |
12:32.48 | SparFux | at least I can now remove the modules dir already, so that rebooting doesnt automatically crashes the system :-) |
12:33.06 | rootlogin | maybe some part of the code that should be covered by the switch is not covered correctly |
12:33.15 | rootlogin | hehe |
12:34.02 | SparFux | Yes, that might be. |
12:34.07 | rootlogin | cause if removing sysfs support totally VS compiling with undefined compiler switch means it works |
12:34.11 | SparFux | actually the debugging option is still not covered. |
12:34.13 | rootlogin | that makes me think |
12:34.31 | SparFux | I don't even find the article about the sysfs removement anymore. |
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12:35.24 | SparFux | OK, now I reboot. might take a long time here. |
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12:36.05 | rootlogin | hmm .. maybe tonight or tomorrow i get some motivation and carve out sysfs to give this a try .. |
12:36.36 | rootlogin | i would like to have a mISDN-patch for 2.6.24/25 |
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12:37.49 | rootlogin | oh goner |
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13:26.26 | errr | I am making a "click to call" thing for my web site. Is there a way using the AMI to Originate the call so that the person who clicks from the web site will hear a message like "we are connecting your call to blah blah blah ...."? |
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13:29.27 | mosty | yes, there is |
13:30.12 | tmjb | hello i trying to decide to use linksys SPA941 or cisco 7906g ? I am looking for the features like plastic quality and quality of speakers? |
13:30.41 | mosty | errr, but you're best off asking how to do that in a web channel, like #javascript if you're using javascript |
13:30.47 | errr | mosty: how? Do you do it in the context that you use to make the call, or is it something done from the manager |
13:31.09 | mosty | errr, do you want to play that through the browser, or through the SIP phone? |
13:31.57 | errr | sorry, when the person clicks to call from the web then I will first ring that person, then I want that message to play while its connecting the call to one of us on the inside |
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13:33.45 | mosty | then you'd do that in the dialplan, use the SayDigits command |
13:34.28 | errr | so then I need to make a context that is just for this web stuff so that it doesnt play these messages unless its a web click to call |
13:36.04 | errr | oh no I could set a variable with the ami so I know it came from the web and just add an if to my regular context |
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13:54.47 | rootlogin | tmjb: i bought a linksys SPA901 and i like the quality .. a bit on the heavy side but that makes it stable :) |
13:59.15 | [TK]D-Fender | rootlogin: 901? Is this for use in a lobby where you're afraid it'll get abused? |
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14:00.42 | rootlogin | hehe i dont know :) no display but thats ok for me .. so if i would come accross that usecase i might consider that phone :) |
14:01.33 | [TK]D-Fender | rootlogin: Screen & speakerphone would have been $10 more. 20$ would have gotten a 4-line phone with lit indicators, etc |
14:01.43 | [TK]D-Fender | rootlogin: Cheaping out for a 901 is just crazy |
14:01.53 | [TK]D-Fender | http://www.voipsupply.com/index.php?cPath=95_163 |
14:03.32 | rootlogin | well i simply needed a phone .. plain and simple .. what does the display show ? there is a message indicator on the 901 as well |
14:03.50 | rootlogin | though i didnt know that :D |
14:04.03 | [TK]D-Fender | rootlogin: CallerID, call status, soft-keys for call control. Dear God.... |
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14:05.51 | rootlogin | ah well the caller-ID that could be useful right |
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14:07.07 | rootlogin | but this way i have some reason to check out the * interaction with jabber |
14:07.18 | [TK]D-Fender | rootlogin: Only point for a 901 is in a lobby/entryway |
14:07.43 | rootlogin | or in my crowded room for wallmounting |
14:07.56 | rootlogin | no space on the desk :D |
14:08.13 | [TK]D-Fender | rootlogin: they all can wall-mount. |
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14:09.18 | rootlogin | i think so but its not nice cause theyre not flat .. hehe wtf if it would be my office i wouldnt have chosen this one .. sure |
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14:09.53 | rootlogin | its just for testing .. i needed a hardware SIP-endpoint |
14:10.39 | [TK]D-Fender | rootlogin: Still its a wasted investment. By cutting of the display you cut off a good portion of "testing" : making sure the call arrives looking like its supposed to. |
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14:12.51 | rootlogin | well thats a point |
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14:27.12 | Wiedi | has anyone tested chan_gtalk with ichat? i get "gtalk_alloc: no gtalk capable clients to talk to." |
14:28.38 | Wiedi | the asterisk jabber contact also doesn't show the "phone" icon so i could try to call it |
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14:36.41 | loompek | aparently.. my sip password can only be <17 bytes long... |
14:36.44 | loompek | on n95 |
14:36.48 | loompek | or so it seems |
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14:44.54 | XnOSX | i need help |
14:45.40 | XnOSX | in my Asterisk PBX the caller id for the person call for my pbx number cant show in the internal phones |
14:45.57 | MrNaz | ok |
14:46.00 | XnOSX | anybody have any idea |
14:46.12 | XnOSX | always show Unknown Caller |
14:46.28 | riddlebox | is there a way to force a moh waiting light off on a zap channel? |
14:46.30 | XnOSX | i need to show the number that is calling |
14:46.33 | jaytee | hahaha, this reminds me of the guy last nite who plugged in both "utp" cables from his Grandstream to his router and couldn't figure out how why his internet connection would drop. http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/generic/a651/?cpg=ab |
14:46.38 | riddlebox | not moh, sorry mwi |
14:46.39 | MrNaz | so i have a working asterisk now box, with a tdm 410 card with 4 fxo modules.... how can i start making calls? i've downloaded a softphone for my laptop to try and test it, but i'm still totally new to asterisk |
14:47.23 | [TK]D-Fender | riddlebox: Force it off? Wipe the messages fromt he VM box, or remove the box from the device |
14:47.47 | [TK]D-Fender | MrNaz: have you set up your zaptel.conf & zapata.conf? |
14:47.54 | XnOSX | MrNaz: you must make a configuration in youre .conf files asterisk and set the Dialplan |
14:48.04 | jaytee | ~book |
14:48.05 | jbot | Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com, or see ~buybook |
14:48.12 | [TK]D-Fender | XnOSX: What is your call coming in from? |
14:48.28 | riddlebox | [TK]D-Fender, I have erased all messages from the box, but the light still flashes on the cordless phone |
14:48.43 | MrNaz | [TK]D-Fender do i have to do that using cli or can it be done using the gui (given that i'm using asterisknow) ? |
14:48.46 | XnOSX | [TK]D-Fender: from my mobile phone |
14:49.07 | MrNaz | XnOSX please excuse the silly question, but what *is* a dialplan ? |
14:49.26 | jaytee | MrNaz, AsteriskNOW is not supported in this channel try #AsteriskNOW |
14:49.27 | [TK]D-Fender | XnOSX: No. a "mobile phone" doesn't let * receive a call. The callmay have been PLACED from your mobiile, but that is what lets * RECEIVE it. |
14:49.32 | jaytee | or #asterisk-gui |
14:49.55 | riddlebox | ~thebook |
14:49.56 | jbot | Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com |
14:50.14 | lmadsen | feel free to buy a copy :) |
14:50.26 | Corydon76-dig | MrNaz: a dialplan is that which drives the association between extension numbers and any action the PBX takes for you, including applications or connecting to another channel, inside or outside |
14:50.26 | lmadsen | (pun intended) |
14:50.27 | XnOSX | [TK]D-Fender: i have set usecallerid=yes and hidecallerid=no but still say Ucknow Caller |
14:50.54 | lmadsen | XnOSX: sendrpid=yes, trustrpid=yes in [general] may help |
14:50.57 | MrNaz | jaytee thats funny, i *was* using asterisk installed on a debian box, and switched to asterisknow at the recommendation of a digium employee doing customer support in this very channel |
14:51.22 | jaytee | really? that's odd |
14:51.33 | Corydon76-dig | MrNaz: with key systems, the dialplan tends to be hardcoded. With a PBX like Asterisk, the dialplan is default empty and you must program everything |
14:51.40 | MrNaz | Corydon76-dig i'm so new to asterisk that i dont even understand that.... i feel really dumb right now :( |
14:51.58 | Corydon76-dig | MrNaz: look at the sample extensions.conf |
14:52.01 | lmadsen | MrNaz: you still won't end up with much/any support for asteriskNow in this channel because few people in this channel use it -- they use asterisk from source mostly |
14:52.06 | [TK]D-Fender | XnOSX: and you still haven't answered my question. |
14:52.17 | [TK]D-Fender | XnOSX: where is the call coming in FROM <- |
14:52.17 | Corydon76-dig | MrNaz: you really should read the book |
14:52.21 | lmadsen | Corydon76-dig: morning! |
14:52.33 | Corydon76-dig | lmadsen: mr0nin |
14:52.40 | lmadsen | reading is knowledge, and knowledge is power! |
14:52.50 | MrNaz | Corydon76-dig i've actually read quite a bit from asterisk TFOT ... dialplans were mentioned extensively but i never saw them defined |
14:52.52 | [TK]D-Fender | And knowing is half the battle! |
14:53.07 | [TK]D-Fender | MrNaz: LOL!!! |
14:53.13 | [TK]D-Fender | MrNaz: How about CHAPTER 5 <- |
14:53.17 | Corydon76-dig | MrNaz: you did, but you did not make the association |
14:53.17 | lmadsen | and 6 :) |
14:53.19 | jaytee | MrNaz, even though the book is for the standard version of Asterisk it will still show you how to program your dialplan and that will help you some with AsteriskNOW but you'll still have to learn that version's method of setting up things in the GUI |
14:53.20 | riddlebox | [TK]D-Fender, do you ever use the asterisk-gui? |
14:53.24 | [TK]D-Fender | riddlebox: nope. |
14:53.34 | MrNaz | [TK]D-Fender i'll go read that chapter now |
14:53.39 | lmadsen | I've used it |
14:53.40 | lmadsen | I like it |
14:53.42 | Corydon76-dig | MrNaz: extensions.conf defines the dialplan |
14:53.47 | riddlebox | [TK]D-Fender, I have it installed and just use it once in a while to see whats going on, its great |
14:53.50 | lmadsen | some things I don't like, but overall, I like the way it works |
14:53.55 | [TK]D-Fender | MrNaz: Your dialplan is the single most important thing to master in *. |
14:53.58 | lmadsen | for a gui, it doesn't get in the way very much |
14:54.17 | XnOSX | [TK]D-Fender: i dont know what you mean? a context? |
14:54.22 | MrNaz | Corydon76-dig perhaps... i think i have a lot of conceptual holdovers from my use of old school type pabx systems which is messing with my attempt to learn this stuff |
14:54.26 | jaytee | lmadsen, the asterisk gui for asteriskNow? |
14:54.32 | Corydon76-dig | lmadsen: btw, did you catch UserFriendly the last half of this week? |
14:54.40 | [TK]D-Fender | XnOSX: No, what is making this call arrive at *? HOW does it come in? |
14:54.45 | XnOSX | [TK]D-Fender: the context for incoming calls is incoming |
14:54.52 | [TK]D-Fender | XnOSX: ARGH! |
14:54.57 | riddlebox | [TK]D-Fender, they are making some good progress with it, but I like editing files hehe |
14:54.57 | XnOSX | LOL |
14:54.58 | [TK]D-Fender | XnOSX: Dear God.. |
14:54.59 | lmadsen | jaytee: asteriskNow is a distribution built on rPath, which happens to use the asterisk-gui -- I've used the asterisk-gui for a customer on a CentOS 5 distro, running Asterisk 1.4 release |
14:55.04 | Corydon76-dig | MrNaz: what happens when you pick up a telephone and press 9? |
14:55.11 | lmadsen | Corydon76-dig: I don't read UserFriendly :) |
14:55.12 | jaytee | cuz it seems that the freePBX gui in trixbox wants to completely or almost completely control your dialplan. |
14:55.15 | XnOSX | sorry my english is not so good buddy |
14:55.22 | [TK]D-Fender | XnOSX: Do you have a Zaptel card? Is it from a VoIP proovider? Do you have a smoke-signal detector? |
14:55.35 | Corydon76-dig | lmadsen: http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20080612 |
14:55.36 | XnOSX | aaaa ok |
14:55.40 | lmadsen | jaytee: agreed -- the asterisk-gui is specifically designed to not step on your dialplan -- it does in SOME spots, but once you learn what those are, you can easily step around it |
14:55.41 | [TK]D-Fender | XnOSX: Some kind of TECHNOLOGY lets * know you HAVE a call. |
14:55.46 | jaytee | lmadsen, yeah I looked at it but I don't like rPath. I wanted to mess with the gui on CentOS instead. |
14:55.47 | lmadsen | and that's why I like it |
14:55.52 | lmadsen | jaytee: and you can |
14:55.55 | XnOSX | [TK]D-Fender: yes i have a TDM400 with 4 FXO ports |
14:56.00 | lmadsen | asterisk-gui != asteriskNow |
14:56.02 | MrNaz | Corydon76-dig i hear a 9 tone |
14:56.03 | jaytee | lmadsen, cool! |
14:56.11 | [TK]D-Fender | XnOSX: Gee, that was like wringing blood from a stone. |
14:56.12 | XnOSX | and the last version of asterisk, zaptel etc etc etc |
14:56.12 | Corydon76-dig | MrNaz: That's a key system. |
14:56.21 | lmadsen | Corydon76-dig: niiiiiice :) |
14:56.22 | MrNaz | Corydon76-dig or was that question rhetorical ? |
14:56.24 | [TK]D-Fender | XnOSX: "callerid=asreceived" |
14:56.34 | lmadsen | I wish people would stop thinking asterisk-gui == asteriskNOW |
14:56.37 | [TK]D-Fender | XnOSX: Thats what you need. |
14:56.40 | XnOSX | [TK]D-Fender: ok in the zaptel.conf? |
14:56.40 | Corydon76-dig | MrNaz: in many key systems, when you press 9, you hear a dialtone for an outside line. |
14:56.47 | [TK]D-Fender | XnOSX: zapata.conf |
14:56.49 | MrNaz | aah |
14:56.51 | jaytee | lmadsen, I'll try to spread the word :-) |
14:56.54 | Corydon76-dig | MrNaz: in Asterisk, what happens is completely up to you |
14:56.57 | riddlebox | lmadsen, I know what you mean |
14:57.00 | lmadsen | can't wait to update the documentation to make the perfectly clear |
14:57.03 | [TK]D-Fender | lmadsen: Guess I'm going to go play with *-gui myself shortly. |
14:57.14 | lmadsen | [TK]D-Fender: yep, you'll hate it I'm sure :) |
14:57.22 | MrNaz | Corydon76-dig so i can make it so pressing 9 causes my pc to show random files from ~/porn ??? |
14:57.24 | [TK]D-Fender | lmadsen: probably less than others. |
14:57.35 | XnOSX | [TK]D-Fender: i need that the calls near extranet show caller id in the GXP2000 terminals displays |
14:57.35 | lmadsen | MrNaz: technically, yes |
14:57.41 | Corydon76-dig | MrNaz: while that means that Asterisk is initially more difficult to get started, it is much more customizable |
14:57.41 | [TK]D-Fender | lmadsen: But what'd make it livable is if I could help in the design process :) |
14:58.02 | [TK]D-Fender | XnOSX: "calls near extranet"? You are being VERY unclear about everything. |
14:58.03 | riddlebox | lmadsen, i showed the new svn version to a friend who is the network admin for a local college (who is looking for a new system) and he was amazed at how easy it was to do stuff |
14:58.04 | MrNaz | lmadsen awesome! can i make it so pressing, say, 666 in a call with an annoying caller causes the call to be piped to /dev/null ? |
14:58.08 | jaytee | while not having a GUI makes it harder for some people, I prefer the total flexibilty of standard Asterisk. |
14:58.09 | lmadsen | [TK]D-Fender: for sure -- I plan on building a custom dialplan just for the GUI as a good example -- afaik, one does not exist right now |
14:58.29 | lmadsen | MrNaz: you can make asterisk do anything you want by expanding it through AGI()'s etc... |
14:58.34 | MrNaz | Corydon76-dig yeap i'm reading chap 5 now (ive downloaded the book) and between the first para i've read and what you've just told me, i'm starting to get it |
14:58.43 | lmadsen | asterisk is a toolkit that is infinitely expandable |
14:58.51 | jaytee | I'm tempted to rig up a SIP enabled coffee pot that calls me when the coffee's ready. |
14:59.11 | MrNaz | lmadsen cool |
14:59.13 | lmadsen | jaytee: you obviously don't maintain more than 20 systems |
14:59.43 | Corydon76-dig | MrNaz: A lot of people look upon Asterisk as a phone system. While it has the capability to do everything a phone system can do and more, it is a toolkit, not a telephone system. |
14:59.44 | lmadsen | people who don't use GUIs are suckers for being "administrators" |
14:59.58 | lmadsen | it's a toolkit with telephony cababilities :) |
15:00.32 | jaytee | lmadsen, true and I totally understand and agree with your point. I do want to add a gui going forward though so that an admin type person can be trained to add extensions easily but other than that I don't want anyone messing with the core dialplan logic because it's highly customized at the moment. |
15:01.00 | Corydon76-dig | You can make Asterisk do 100 different things... it's all in the way that you customize it. |
15:01.09 | XnOSX | [TK]D-Fender: i dont have the correctly words for express that i need |
15:01.20 | jaytee | remember I told you how I "kludged" it so that my Nortel Option 11C and my Asterisk box now work together as one PBX? |
15:01.22 | Corydon76-dig | I myself have written a hunter reporting system using Asterisk. |
15:01.24 | XnOSX | [TK]D-Fender: my english is not so good friend sorry |
15:01.30 | [TK]D-Fender | XnOSX: What is this "extranet call"? How does it arrive at *? |
15:01.36 | riddlebox | lmadsen, I have been wondering something can you have one asterisk server, which handles say all of your trunks like 4 pri's, then another server that handles all extensions, and another that handles all voicemail? |
15:01.39 | lmadsen | jaytee: I work with, and build systems for anywhere between 2-8 people a week -- if I had to maintain all of those systems, I'm be quickly inundated with nothing but 'maintenance' work, and would be a waste of my experience and skills. |
15:01.41 | Corydon76-dig | for people who are too technophobic to use the interweb |
15:01.48 | [TK]D-Fender | XnOSX: Your grammar is fine, its the DETAILS you aren't prooviding. |
15:01.49 | lmadsen | riddlebox: of course |
15:02.13 | jaytee | lmadsen, yeah and that makes sense. for me I just have the one system to maintain but even then I want a gui eventually. |
15:02.16 | lmadsen | Corydon76-dig: yep... but it won't do 101 things |
15:02.34 | riddlebox | lmadsen, ohh duh, you would kinda create your own sip server then, gee sometimes i think i have to ask questions then it pops in my head |
15:02.38 | Corydon76-dig | If you're a hunter in the state of Washington, and you use the telephone to report your kills to the state, you're using an Asterisk system. |
15:03.10 | riddlebox | Corydon76-dig, thats cool to know |
15:03.14 | lmadsen | I'm off to shower and head downtown to watch baseball and drink beer |
15:03.16 | lmadsen | buy! |
15:03.19 | jaytee | awesome! |
15:03.20 | lmadsen | errr... bye :) |
15:03.25 | lmadsen | has book on the brain :D |
15:03.26 | XnOSX | [TK]D-Fender: ok, well im try with callerid=asreceived hold on |
15:03.48 | Corydon76-dig | If you're a Medicare patient in the state of Maryland, and your provider calls up the automated line to check your eligiblity for benefits, he's using an Asterisk system. |
15:03.53 | jaytee | lmadsen, the 3rd edition or the cookbook? |
15:03.57 | MrNaz | Corydon76-dig i assume thats just an IVR hooked up to a database back end with events triggering appropriate scripts based upon user ivr input... right? |
15:04.06 | [TK]D-Fender | XnOSX: That will help with the call-id issue on your Zap channels. |
15:04.20 | Corydon76-dig | MrNaz: It's all dialplan, in both cases |
15:04.22 | MrNaz | Corydon76-dig please excuse my imploite use of the word "just", i did not mean to diminish the amount of work that must have gone into that heh |
15:04.33 | Corydon76-dig | But yes, it's interfacing to a database in both cases |
15:04.44 | XnOSX | [TK]D-Fender: ok! thanx so much i hope so jejeje |
15:04.52 | [TK]D-Fender | MrNaz: basic IVR's aren't anything special... |
15:10.45 | MrNaz | realistically, is using asterisknow a good idea if i'm going to have trouble getting support? #asterisknow looks about as alive as a 3 day old run over raccoon corpse |
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15:15.32 | [TK]D-Fender | MrNaz: *Now is not a good way to learn *. Its a good 2nd step. |
15:16.24 | MrNaz | [TK]D-Fender it is the second step... my first step was installing on ubuntu and getitng the zaptel kernel driver built etc |
15:16.36 | MrNaz | i got a working asterisk system, but didnt go further |
15:16.41 | [TK]D-Fender | MrNaz: Ubuntu can work, but its a PITA |
15:17.12 | [TK]D-Fender | MrNaz: You have a TON of crap to install on it before you can compile * because its intended as a binary-only desktop system. |
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15:17.43 | [TK]D-Fender | MrNaz: So you are working from a less used starting point which causes more work. |
15:18.03 | jaytee | CentOS ftw! |
15:18.15 | MrNaz | ok well i'm quite happy to start over with a new distro and method |
15:18.21 | MrNaz | what is the recommended method in here? |
15:19.00 | [TK]D-Fender | MrNaz: RH-based has the most documentation and users so far, so that'd probably be a good idea. |
15:19.13 | MrNaz | centos it is |
15:19.21 | jaytee | MrNaz, CentOS is RHEL without the branding |
15:19.22 | MrNaz | fires up his torrent client |
15:19.32 | MrNaz | jaytee yea i know |
15:19.50 | [TK]D-Fender | MrNaz: CentOS is usually the most suggested because it is less "bleeding-edge" that the Fedoras, and is still completely "free" (beer/speech" |
15:20.02 | jaytee | MrNaz, here's a good howto for * on CentOS: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/CentOS+5+and+Asterisk+1.4.x+installation |
15:20.19 | [TK]D-Fender | MrNaz: And being build from RHEL sources you gain all the documentation for RHEL as well. |
15:21.03 | mardi | hi all, would an average home user wanting to get into voip need a pabx system like asterisk? |
15:21.14 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender, have you run * on a recent Fedora build? I'm curious what effect the new CFS scheduler has on *. |
15:21.45 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: Nope, only use CentOS at this point. I'm still a fan of Slackware however. |
15:22.03 | jaytee | with older kernels that don't have the new scheduler? |
15:22.09 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: Time was a single CDD could get you installing * from source without ANY more packages to download. |
15:26.08 | jaytee | I want this tshirt: http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/popculture/a6b2/zoom/ |
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15:28.07 | MrNaz | if you build form source... doesnt that make handling updates to asterisk a pain? |
15:28.34 | jaytee | not really, you're just rebuilding with a new source |
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15:29.11 | [TK]D-Fender | MrNaz: *'s requirement son't really change unless they do something tragic going from something like 1.4 to 1.6. Internal stuff? almost never |
15:29.17 | jaytee | I've been running 1.4.15 for several months now and * is now up to 1.4.21. I've had no real pressing need to update. |
15:29.17 | mardi | allrighty then.... |
15:29.24 | MrNaz | if you have 100 asterisk boxes? |
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15:29.53 | jaytee | then it's time for mondo :-) |
15:29.55 | MrNaz | jaytee i'm talking years later |
15:30.10 | MrNaz | surely running software that is years out of date is not recommended? |
15:30.52 | MrNaz | see with a debian based distro you can just apt-get update the system... source bulids require human intervention on every box... right? |
15:30.58 | jaytee | MrNaz, probably not but there are still lots of people out there running NT 4.0 and Netware 386. |
15:31.39 | MrNaz | jaytee indeed... they are politically correctly referred to as "mentally handicapped" |
15:31.51 | [TK]D-Fender | MrNaz: If you have 100 boxes are you going to take EVERY update that comes out? Compiling * is no big deal. its a very worthwhile 5 minutes of your life. Any anoyone responsible for that many would build their OWN packages personally as well as the deployment platform rather than relying on some 3rd party, hoping they do a "decent" job. |
15:32.53 | jaytee | 3rd party packages can be a nightmare |
15:32.56 | [TK]D-Fender | MrNaz: And try to imagine why you are even running 100 * boxes. What purpose is * filling to need so many? How much time during its lifespan will you really need to spend recompiling? |
15:33.08 | [TK]D-Fender | MrNaz: You poot is remarkably moot. |
15:33.19 | MrNaz | [TK]D-Fender while the question i'm asking is just hypothetical, and i agree that uliding from source isnt hard... i'm not sure about the "real admins build their own packages and deployment platform" bit... |
15:33.30 | [TK]D-Fender | MrNaz: And those whining about their packages not living up to expectations got what they deserved. |
15:33.43 | jaytee | besides, if you let your system do a kernel update you have to recompile your zaptel and * modules to work again and on some distros the kernel updates are every other week. |
15:34.03 | Corydon76-dig | MrNaz: they prefer "differently abled" |
15:34.16 | [TK]D-Fender | MrNaz: "real admins build their own packages and deployment platform" <- this was aimed at your hypothetical admin responsible for 100 boxes, and is ENTIRELY realistic, and I KNOW THAT GUY PERSONALLY. |
15:34.22 | MrNaz | [TK]D-Fender i was asking the question, the scenario i had in mind was for someone who deployed * for clients |
15:34.47 | [TK]D-Fender | MrNaz: Well I am an independant consultant and I compile from source every time. |
15:35.44 | MrNaz | [TK]D-Fender ok... i'll take your word for it... i was just asking, coz i use debian on all my web/db boxes, and it saves me HEAPS of time over the old bulid from source routine i had |
15:36.05 | jaytee | MrNaz, do take his word for it. He knows from whence he speaks :-) |
15:36.22 | [TK]D-Fender | Corydon76-dig: "differently-abled". Feh. That implies there is always some sort of extraordinary compensation for whatever "challenge" they happen to have to face. |
15:36.36 | MrNaz | jaytee i wouldnt be asking him questions if i wasnt already convinced of that :) |
15:37.21 | [TK]D-Fender | MrNaz: For Web I agree, but thats because all of the components are largely guanteed, aren't dependent on your kernel so much, and are thoroughly tested. You know who makes most * packages? Not really great jobs you know... right tool for the right job... |
15:38.16 | jaytee | MrNaz, good cuz if you come across a problem that [TK]D-Fender, Corydon76-dig or several others in here can't help you with then you've found yourself in a unique position and are well and truly f%#&ed if you know what I mean. |
15:38.17 | MrNaz | [TK]D-Fender yes, and someone using NT4 today cannot possibly have anything to compensate for the astonishing lack of mental power... unless perhaps they are able to fly like superman |
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15:38.53 | [TK]D-Fender | MrNaz: Might be an acceptable trade-off.... |
15:39.29 | MrNaz | [TK]D-Fender ok cool... centos with build from source it is... http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/CentOS+5+and+Asterisk+1.4.x+installation <-- jaytee gave me that howto... is that the generally accepted method? |
15:39.50 | jaytee | I've used that howto with great success |
15:39.58 | jaytee | there may be better ones though |
15:40.30 | wonderworld | is there a formula that would let calculate me how fast the cpu needs to be to handle a certain number of concurrent calls? |
15:40.33 | [TK]D-Fender | MrNaz: installing *'s prereq's is the same on any RH distro and nearly identical for any package-based system. Compiling * is ALWAYS the same. |
15:40.41 | [TK]D-Fender | MrNaz: (except Gentoo) |
15:40.59 | [TK]D-Fender | MrNaz: This is all nice and neatly described in the BOOK, and just about every guide out there. |
15:42.32 | jaytee | MrNaz, on the optional installs in that howto you should know before hand that the book has good coverage of CDR using PostGRE sql but if you want to use mysql for CDR you'll have to use another howto because that's not covered in the book. |
15:42.56 | [TK]D-Fender | MrNaz: compiling * and zaptel is like 10 steps and is almost completely standard for the install of any Posix program out there. |
15:43.13 | MrNaz | jaytee i'd sooner use a spoon to carve out my own appendix than use mysql for anything |
15:43.33 | XnOSX | [TK]D-Fender: well this cant help me friend! still show Unknown Caller in the GXP2000 displays |
15:43.46 | [TK]D-Fender | XnOSX: pastebin your zapata.conf |
15:43.48 | [TK]D-Fender | ~pb |
15:43.49 | jbot | [~pb] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste |
15:43.50 | [TK]D-Fender | ^^^^^^^^^ |
15:43.59 | XnOSX | [TK]D-Fender: ok |
15:44.01 | MrNaz | [TK]D-Fender ok... well i havent tried any of this from source yet... first attempt was ubuntu, second was asterisknow.... i'm getting centos as we speak, and i'll do the build fom source next |
15:45.12 | XnOSX | [TK]D-Fender: http://pastebin.ca/1047851 |
15:46.33 | [TK]D-Fender | XnOSX: Should be OK for callerid. So either you don't have the proper indication zone set in zaptel.conf, or one isn't available, or you don't have CallerID service on that line. |
15:46.36 | XnOSX | [TK]D-Fender: this is my zapata.com |
15:46.50 | [TK]D-Fender | XnOSX: Or you didn't restart * following those changes |
15:47.11 | XnOSX | [TK]D-Fender: i was restart server complete |
15:47.50 | jaytee | probably not getting CallerID from the telco |
15:48.02 | XnOSX | in zaptel.conf i have defaultzone = es and loadzone = es |
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15:48.50 | XnOSX | i will try reboot server again |
15:49.17 | EmleyMoor | I am trying to connect my N95 to my home * over my mother's WiFi but it fails - error 408 shows on the * |
15:49.30 | EmleyMoor | What is likely to be wrong? |
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15:51.32 | EmleyMoor | I can do similar on other people's similar setups |
15:56.40 | EmleyMoor | I try to register my N95 from here and I see 408 "Request Timeout" |
15:57.34 | Strom | perhaps a router issue |
15:57.50 | EmleyMoor | Strom: Perhaps indeed - anything I might be able to do? |
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15:58.29 | Strom | i assume you're using SIP? |
15:58.33 | EmleyMoor | Yes |
15:58.57 | Strom | make sure the router is forwarding the standard SIP port range (5060, 10000-20000 UDP) to your phone |
16:00.52 | EmleyMoor | I can't see the IP I've been assigned |
16:01.11 | Strom | there's no tool on your phone to tell you that? |
16:01.29 | Strom | what about the router's dhcp client table? |
16:01.54 | EmleyMoor | Chooses not to say |
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16:02.23 | Strom | well, what information does it give you? |
16:02.40 | EmleyMoor | Another one |
16:03.05 | Strom | these answers aren't very helpful |
16:03.37 | EmleyMoor | I am looking to make them more helpful |
16:03.58 | Strom | what information does the router provide when you look at its DHCP client table? |
16:04.30 | EmleyMoor | One DHCP client - but I don't think it's the right one - and there is more than one - how do I find the MAC address of the phone? |
16:05.15 | Strom | that I don't know -- i've never touched that phone |
16:07.05 | EmleyMoor | Hmmm - it is my phone it shows - but it doesn't show any other clients |
16:07.42 | Strom | that's not something to worry about at this point |
16:07.42 | ManxPower | does it work if you put the phone on a public IP? |
16:07.51 | Strom | just forward the ports and see what happens |
16:08.15 | EmleyMoor | Do I need TCP, UDP or both? |
16:08.20 | Strom | udp |
16:08.28 | [TK]D-Fender | ~sipnat |
16:08.29 | jbot | [~sipnat] Quick guide on configuring * + SIP behind NAT : http://www.aocomputing.net/?p=3 , otherwise check the WIKI at http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+SIP+NAT+solutions |
16:08.34 | EmleyMoor | For all, 5060 included? |
16:08.36 | Strom | yes |
16:09.53 | EmleyMoor | 408 again |
16:12.41 | EmleyMoor | Has nobody come up with a "this happens - try this" for this? |
16:13.09 | Strom | what do you think I just walked you through? |
16:14.22 | EmleyMoor | I did it, but it didn't work |
16:14.44 | EmleyMoor | With ports forwarded, still 408 |
16:15.28 | EmleyMoor | I get no problems at all anywhere else, even on near-identical routers |
16:15.47 | jaytee | with the same ISP? |
16:15.53 | Strom | *shrug* maybe it's not the router |
16:16.20 | EmleyMoor | With varying ISPs - not actually tried it with same ISP but it happens to be the same ISP as mine |
16:20.19 | EmleyMoor | If it works with random other ISP, it should work with this one |
16:20.27 | Strom | yeah, it should |
16:20.37 | Strom | I'm not the SIP guru |
16:20.44 | Strom | nor am I the ISP psychic |
16:21.04 | Strom | I can't just magically divine what the packets are doing |
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16:42.17 | asdx | ~book |
16:42.18 | jbot | Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com, or see ~buybook |
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17:44.28 | ManxPower | Wow, no Asterisk issues today! We finally have the Golden Release! |
17:44.52 | ManxPower | scratches the current Asterisk and discovers it's only gold paint. |
17:45.39 | Strom | if you do that, you'll anger the gods |
17:48.55 | ManxPower | quickly replaces Asterisk with YATE and waits for the lightening. |
17:49.08 | Strom | what about the shortening |
17:49.11 | Strom | or the heavying |
17:49.16 | ManxPower | that too! |
17:49.24 | Strom | or did you mean lightning? :) |
17:49.37 | ManxPower | more than likely. |
17:50.08 | ManxPower | sometimes relies on the speel checker too much. |
17:50.08 | Strom | that damned spell chicker |
17:50.08 | ManxPower | speel |
17:50.24 | Strom | speel chicker |
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17:51.55 | ManxPower | *grumble* I have to go to Lowes. |
17:52.34 | Strom | is it unlike Homo Depot? |
17:53.04 | ManxPower | Not really. Lowes is 12 miles away, Home Depot is 35 miles away |
17:53.16 | ManxPower | other than the color scheme they are pretty similar. |
17:54.00 | Strom | heh |
17:54.15 | Strom | there's a home depot down the stret on Sunset just west of Western |
17:54.21 | Strom | it's...um...kind of cruisy. |
17:54.39 | ManxPower | In the past Lowes was more expensive, but in the past couple of years Home Depot has raised their prices and there isn't much different these dats |
17:54.58 | ManxPower | Strom: Considering it's location I'm not surprised. |
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17:55.27 | ManxPower | <-- lived in Los Angels for 5 years |
17:56.17 | Strom | ah, didn't know that |
17:56.21 | Strom | which part? |
17:56.29 | ManxPower | Venice, West LA, Palms |
17:56.40 | Strom | ah ok |
17:56.50 | Strom | i grew up in pacific palisades |
17:57.01 | Strom | live in los feliz now |
17:57.05 | raytruz` | I was just at lowes |
17:57.09 | raytruz` | they never have what i'm looking for |
17:57.13 | raytruz` | what are you going there to get? |
17:58.13 | ManxPower | raytruz`: the hardware to attach a ceiling fan to |
17:58.26 | raytruz` | Ah, should be easy to find that |
17:58.45 | ManxPower | *nod* totally forgot about it when I bought the fan yesterday |
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18:03.07 | Ward1983 | what causes this: http://debian.pastebin.com/m3779a7fc ? i followed this: http://www.automated.it/asterisk/lah-3-6-05_1.html |
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18:04.34 | ManxPower | Ward1983: do you have a [ward] or [1000] section of sip.conf? |
18:05.56 | Ward1983 | ManxPower, let me check |
18:08.01 | Ward1983 | ManxPower, a 1000 section |
18:08.19 | ManxPower | Looks like you need to change that to [ward] |
18:08.30 | ManxPower | as it looks like that is the userid it is sending |
18:09.12 | Ward1983 | ok will try |
18:09.14 | ManxPower | BTW, having the SIP userid be the same as the extension is one of the worst things you can do for anything other than a dirt simle setup. |
18:09.33 | Ward1983 | im just following that little book |
18:09.48 | Ward1983 | just getting to know asterisk ;) |
18:09.57 | Ward1983 | how should i do it? |
18:10.01 | ManxPower | those sorts of things are frequently wrong, outdated, or do not take into account other things. |
18:10.12 | Ward1983 | ok how should i do it? |
18:10.15 | ManxPower | read the stuff in the Asterisk doc directory |
18:10.22 | ManxPower | then read ATFOT book. |
18:10.42 | ManxPower | After that the other docs like the wiki and mailinglist archives and here are good places |
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18:22.32 | kamh | hi all |
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18:24.27 | john_fbac | I have an issue with my asterisk 1.2.7.1 system that occurs when an incoming caller hangs up during the voicemail message; the text file of the call information is logged and stored in the user's voicemail context; since no audio recording is made, there is no file for audio...the issue is that this causes the system and the phone to give a voicemail indicator. any ideas on how to prevent this? |
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18:40.38 | jojoman02 | this is an sip question, what is proxy-require used for? like situation |
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19:11.03 | jblack | Hmmm. |
19:11.20 | jblack | I supose with the ami one has two choices; bind to 1 interfaces, or bind to all. |
19:11.33 | jblack | Or none. So, three choices. |
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19:13.07 | outtolunc | or use a proxy <G> |
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19:13.22 | outtolunc | meaning, bind to many |
19:13.24 | logi4023 | in realtime config db tables, should ',' be used or '|' |
19:13.56 | outtolunc | here we go again <G> |
19:15.03 | outtolunc | logi4023: the *new* default is ',' it used to be '|', depending on the version you have there *might* be a compatiblity param you can use to revert to '|' |
19:15.55 | outtolunc | search the -users (or maybe it was -dev) for the lots of replies when this was rediscussed what.. 3 weeks ago |
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19:19.27 | Ward1983 | whats a good softphone? |
19:19.46 | Ward1983 | supporting sip |
19:21.03 | john_fbac | xlite has always worked well for me. the newer version does not seem as nice as older ones. free. |
19:21.08 | jaytee | ~softphone |
19:21.09 | jbot | [~softphone] A soft-phone is a program that lets your computer use a compatible audio interface (usually a speaker&mic, or headset), and optionally a webcam, to place VoIP calls with a given protocol (SIP/IAX/H.323/MGCP/etc). For links enter ~zoiper , ~xlite , ~twinkle , ~bria , ~eyebeam , ~ekiga |
19:21.21 | cmantito | I quite like Zoiper |
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19:22.16 | logi4023 | the use of ',' in asterisk 1.6beta failed, '|' works. |
19:22.35 | logi4023 | in addition '|' works in 1.4 while ',' does not |
19:22.49 | Strom | , works in 1.4 over here |
19:23.05 | Strom | er, never mind, not realtime |
19:23.31 | logi4023 | this is for realtime mysql tables |
19:24.05 | Strom | yes, I realized that after I sent my message |
19:24.10 | jaytee | is listening to Genesis - Land Of Confusion [4:46 (4%)] |
19:24.13 | Strom | hence the retraction |
19:24.28 | Strom | jaytee: turn that script off please |
19:24.39 | jaytee | :-( |
19:24.52 | Strom | no one cares what people are listening to |
19:24.58 | Strom | those scripte are annoying |
19:25.02 | Strom | s/te/ts/ |
19:29.31 | Ward1983 | john_fbac, xlite only supports OSS so i cant use it |
19:31.09 | jaytee | Ward1983, by OSS you mean open source? |
19:31.26 | Ward1983 | jaytee, no the soundsystem.................. |
19:31.28 | Ward1983 | ffs |
19:31.32 | Ward1983 | never mind |
19:31.35 | jaytee | ok, ok |
19:32.24 | jaytee | thought it supported ALSA too |
19:32.33 | john_fbac | me 2 |
19:32.47 | cmantito | did last time I used it. |
19:32.58 | jaytee | pretty sure mine does |
19:33.18 | jaytee | but I haven't used it in awhile and don't remember what version it is. |
19:36.03 | Ward1983 | pfff i cant setup my audiostuff in ANY client |
19:36.13 | Ward1983 | i use digital output and analog intpu |
19:36.25 | john_fbac | ward1983: see if this helps: http://gentoo-wiki.com/X-lite see alsa only systems... |
19:36.40 | Ward1983 | i just give up |
19:36.46 | Ward1983 | im gonna look for a client on my pda |
19:36.54 | Ward1983 | linux sound stuff is retarded |
19:37.20 | Strom | Ward1983: seriously, just buy a hardphone or an ATA |
19:37.40 | Ward1983 | Strom, that would make it more complicated |
19:37.52 | Ward1983 | then i would need to use analog ina and output for the headset |
19:37.57 | Strom | ... |
19:38.03 | Ward1983 | and optical spdif for my music |
19:38.05 | Strom | a phone |
19:38.15 | jaytee | my sound driver update for Vista from Microsoft broke my sound. I had to reinstall the driver from Intel's site. Now THAT is retarded. but then so is running Vista. |
19:38.16 | Strom | not a sound card |
19:38.18 | Ward1983 | lol just to test stuff out????? |
19:38.21 | Ward1983 | am i rich? |
19:38.24 | Ward1983 | buy this buy that |
19:38.30 | Ward1983 | thats all people aay on itc these days |
19:38.38 | john_fbac | ::rolling eyes:: |
19:38.57 | Ward1983 | irc |
19:39.04 | Strom | john_fbac: yeah, if my eyes could roll 180 degrees backwards right now... |
19:39.10 | Strom | Ward1983: you can get this stuff for cheap |
19:39.37 | jaytee | 30 bucks for an SIP/ATA adapter. |
19:39.46 | Ward1983 | Strom, i spend more money then i "earn" im unemployed, cheap is expensive for me |
19:40.08 | Ward1983 | thats a lot of money for me |
19:40.26 | Strom | hang on |
19:40.41 | Strom | I have the world's tiniest violin somewhere around here... |
19:40.45 | Strom | goes looking for it |
19:40.55 | jaytee | hahahaha, i was just thinking that same thing!!!!! |
19:42.08 | Ward1983 | go back to vista and stop laughing with me :) |
19:42.15 | john_fbac | ward1983: try the link that I posted, see if it helps. |
19:42.44 | Ward1983 | john_fbac, i foudn another problem which is probably causing it, thanx anyway though |
19:44.02 | jaytee | I've had Vista dual boot on this box for almost a year now and I haven't booted it in at least 2 months thank god |
19:44.26 | Strom | let's all have a zealotry contest |
19:44.34 | jaytee | yes! lets |
19:44.57 | Strom | VISTA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I HATE YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LINUX LINUX LINUX UHUMP PMFNPF OOF OW BONK HEY STOP THAT BONK BONK BONK BONK |
19:45.04 | jaytee | hahaha |
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19:45.52 | jaytee | seriously though, I have about 200 XP client machines and I just don't see any driving need to upgrade, especially since most of the hardware can't handle it. |
19:52.35 | Strom | it's hard to believe that it's already 1992 |
19:52.47 | Strom | oh well, off to buy that Nirvana CD everyone keeps talking about |
19:54.33 | john_fbac | does anyone know what causes a msg0000.txt message to log in the voicemail context with no audio recording? |
19:54.47 | Ward1983 | lol you actually try to compare viasta with linux (a kernel btw, not a OS) :) |
19:54.57 | Ward1983 | viasta = vista (typo) |
19:55.47 | Strom | oh god, not just whiny and cheap, but a hopeless zealot too |
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19:57.16 | Ward1983 | lol man you're sooooo arrogant |
19:58.37 | Ward1983 | i was only using vista because jaytee was laughing at me, and a bit earlyer he said he used vista |
20:00.52 | jaytee | I wasn't really laughing AT you. I was laughing because I was thinking "This is "My heart bleeds for you playing on the world's smallest violin" and then Strom said that about the world's smallest violin around here somewhere. |
20:01.36 | jaytee | otherwise I'm sympathetic with your unemployement and lack of funds. I've been there and done that and couldn't afford the tshirt either. |
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20:13.26 | Ksilebo|Home | Hello. Having issues with DTMF. I hit pound and it plays it for about 10 seconds. |
20:13.45 | Ksilebo|Home | This is from a Cisco 7940 running SCCP with chan_sccp |
20:14.29 | Ksilebo|Home | Actually..there's one thing I haven't tried yet. |
20:14.33 | Ksilebo|Home | reboots the server |
20:15.44 | jaytee | suddenly 20 agents in the call center all start saying, "Hello? hello?" all at the same time. |
20:16.07 | Ksilebo|Home | lol no |
20:16.10 | Ksilebo|Home | Its just at home. |
20:16.47 | jaytee | why are you using skinny? I thought that the latest firmware for Cisco phones supported SIP as well. |
20:17.13 | Ksilebo|Home | The SIP firmware isn't as good as the SCCP |
20:17.20 | jaytee | ah |
20:17.31 | Ksilebo|Home | As in, they kind of half-assed it. |
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20:18.00 | hsv-al | . |
20:18.10 | hsv-al | hello fellow internet addicts |
20:18.24 | jaytee | after seeing the pricing on Cisco Call Manager and their phones and then comparing that to * with Polycom phones, * with Polycom phones is a much better deal. |
20:18.39 | Ksilebo|Home | I got the 7940s cheap |
20:18.56 | jaytee | I am not an internet addict!!! <<<< yes, he is but he's in denial |
20:20.05 | Ksilebo|Home | Damn, no change on the reboot. |
20:20.17 | jaytee | must be the phone then |
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20:20.30 | Ksilebo|Home | Its doing it on both Ciscos |
20:20.35 | jaytee | or something hinky in the chan_sccp module |
20:20.39 | Ksilebo|Home | Lemme see if a softphone does it |
20:20.59 | jaytee | yeah, that'd be a good test to isolate |
20:21.14 | mvanbaak | no |
20:21.18 | mvanbaak | and know why ? |
20:21.34 | jaytee | no, but that's why I'm here. to learn from the masters |
20:21.38 | mvanbaak | because it will be different endpoint _AND_ different technoligy |
20:21.46 | Ksilebo|Home | ... |
20:21.56 | Ksilebo|Home | So how mcuh troubleshooting do you actually do then? |
20:21.59 | jaytee | aha! yes, didn't think of that. SIP instead of Skinny |
20:22.05 | mvanbaak | indeed |
20:22.16 | Ksilebo|Home | I want to eliminate the IP phones as a problem. |
20:22.18 | mvanbaak | Ksilebo|Home: what version of asterisk are you running ? |
20:22.31 | Ksilebo|Home | 1.4.19.2 |
20:23.05 | mvanbaak | and it's at home right ? |
20:23.35 | Ksilebo|Home | Same network, same subnet |
20:23.41 | Ksilebo|Home | Same switch |
20:23.42 | mvanbaak | yeah |
20:23.44 | mvanbaak | but I mean |
20:23.48 | mvanbaak | it's your home system |
20:23.50 | Ksilebo|Home | Non-production |
20:23.58 | mvanbaak | not some mission critical system that makes you money |
20:24.05 | mvanbaak | ok |
20:24.12 | Ksilebo|Home | Correct. Just my futz around system for a "landline" |
20:24.14 | mvanbaak | checkout trunk and give that a try |
20:24.20 | Ksilebo|Home | Important calls go on the cell. |
20:24.29 | mvanbaak | a LOAD of stuff happened in chan_skinny |
20:24.49 | mvanbaak | here at home it's working great at the moment |
20:24.54 | mvanbaak | trunk from yesterday |
20:25.13 | Ksilebo|Home | Oh I use chan_sccp |
20:25.19 | mvanbaak | aaaaaaaaaaah |
20:25.22 | mvanbaak | chan_sccp |
20:25.39 | mvanbaak | that one is a fork of a fork of a fork of a fork of chan_skinny |
20:25.41 | Ksilebo|Home | btw, does the same thing on the softphone |
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20:26.07 | mvanbaak | Ksilebo|Home: ditch chan_sccp and go with chan_skinny |
20:26.22 | Ksilebo|Home | Before we go down that road. |
20:26.30 | Ksilebo|Home | Zoiper, using SIP, is doing the same thing. |
20:26.31 | mvanbaak | that's what I did about a year ago |
20:27.00 | mvanbaak | ok, try to upgrade to the latest asterisk first |
20:27.20 | mvanbaak | 1.4.21 is the latest stable |
20:27.46 | Ksilebo|Home | I'm using PBX in a flash though... |
20:27.50 | Ksilebo|Home | With FreePBX |
20:28.32 | mvanbaak | ~freepbx |
20:28.33 | jbot | [~freepbx] FreePBX is unable to be supported here. It is made up of complex dialplans and scripts which can't be easily supported by people who aren't deeply involved. Try joining #freepbx and asking there |
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20:29.23 | Ksilebo|Home | I guess I'm waiting until Monday to fix it then, becuase the channel is dead. |
20:29.42 | jaytee | it'll probably be dead on monday too :-) |
20:30.03 | Ksilebo|Home | No its just dead outside weekdays. |
20:30.04 | mvanbaak | freepbx is a virus |
20:30.13 | Ksilebo|Home | I'm not going to have this argument. |
20:30.19 | Ksilebo|Home | Its easy to set up, and usually works fine. |
20:30.22 | jaytee | lol |
20:31.05 | mattx86 | hey guys, I'm trying to get a Polycom Soundpoint IP 330 going. Right now I have one-way audio (Polycom-> out works; Polycom<-in does not). The asterisk box is behind its own NAT, as is my Polycom, but the asterisk box is configured fine (we have a Linksys SPA941/Sipura 2k behind a NAT on another LAN and it works fine). |
20:31.05 | mvanbaak | you should now type: s/usually/sometimes when the stars have the correct alignment and it's sunday the 42th of februari/ |
20:31.49 | Ksilebo|Home | I'm tempted to give AsteriskNow a shot. |
20:32.13 | mvanbaak | Ksilebo|Home: just install asterisk |
20:32.33 | Ksilebo|Home | I want a GUI. |
20:32.39 | mvanbaak | the very best gui for asterisk is $EDITOR |
20:32.43 | Ksilebo|Home | No. |
20:32.46 | mvanbaak | yes |
20:32.55 | Ksilebo|Home | Not having that argument either. |
20:33.15 | mvanbaak | a GUI does stuff to your config files that make it impossible to debug |
20:33.49 | mvanbaak | because you cannot easily alter it. if you alter the config the gui will for sure overwrite it |
20:33.56 | mvanbaak | and that makes it a pain |
20:34.11 | Ksilebo|Home | I did say I'm not having that argument. |
20:34.28 | mvanbaak | we are not having an argument |
20:35.02 | mvanbaak | it's just that we cannot help you if you use a gui so you cant easily follow: "please add this line to your sip.conf entry..... and try again ...." |
20:35.30 | mvanbaak | like with your current DTMF problem |
20:35.31 | Ksilebo|Home | I can do that. That's what sip_custom.conf is for. |
20:35.38 | mvanbaak | I bet it's fixed in the latest asterisk |
20:35.46 | mvanbaak | but you cannot upgrade because you use freepbx |
20:35.55 | oilinki | is the asterisknow only way to get the qui? |
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20:36.11 | mvanbaak | oilinki: vim is a wonderfull gui |
20:36.13 | oilinki | I'd like to have a gui for openwrt |
20:36.26 | jaytee | all this gui talk is making me feel sticky. I'm gonna go grab a shower |
20:36.33 | Ksilebo|Home | OpenWRT has a gui, it just sucks. |
20:36.58 | oilinki | mvanbaak: naah. and it's 'vi'. I have my asterisk running, but would be nice to be able to do a bit more. |
20:37.29 | mvanbaak | vim == vi improved |
20:37.33 | jaytee | mattx86, not really great with NAT problems. sounds like RTP is being blocked in one direction. have you looked at this? |
20:37.37 | jaytee | ~sipnat |
20:37.38 | jbot | [~sipnat] Quick guide on configuring * + SIP behind NAT : http://www.aocomputing.net/?p=3 , otherwise check the WIKI at http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+SIP+NAT+solutions |
20:38.00 | oilinki | mvanbaak: correct :) |
20:38.12 | mvanbaak | oilinki: and what is it you cannot do with editing /etc/asterisk/extensions.conf directly ? |
20:38.35 | oilinki | mvanbaak: basically undestand how to make trunks in a correct way |
20:38.48 | mvanbaak | ~trunk |
20:38.48 | jbot | rumour has it, trunk is a word with varying definitions. In Asterisk, a trunk is a "stream of UDP packets containing IAX2 frames from more than 1 call"; in telecom, a trunk is a "single voice channel between two pieces of switching equipment."; in Ethernet a trunk carries more than one 802.1q VLAN. There is no such thing as a "SIP Trunk" -- Don't use the term. |
20:39.09 | oilinki | I'm using openwrt on the router. let it register to various sip servers and use it with nokia voip phones from home. |
20:39.37 | oilinki | works quite ok, but every now and then I do have problems with codecs and dtmf tones. |
20:39.53 | drmessano | I like making trunks |
20:39.56 | mattx86 | jaytee: yeah. I just now did a source and destination NAT for UDP/10000-20000 for the Polycom and got the same thing. |
20:40.01 | drmessano | I put rope handles on th sides |
20:40.11 | mvanbaak | drmessano ;) |
20:40.12 | drmessano | and some decorative inlays |
20:40.21 | jaytee | most of the things I've done with * I wouldn't be able to do with any of the gui derivatives because of the way they control the dialplan. |
20:40.22 | oilinki | therefore I'd like to understand how to do the setup in the way that my phone would negotiate the codecs directly with the service provider. |
20:40.28 | drmessano | Big heavy brass latches |
20:40.43 | jaytee | a SIP trunk with brass latches? ooooh, sounds nice! |
20:40.45 | mvanbaak | drmessano: I only have dead cops in my trunk |
20:41.20 | drmessano | mvanbaak: Damn right.. "Whats in the trunk?" "A spare tire and a dead hooker" "Oh, carry on then" |
20:41.40 | jaytee | heheehe |
20:41.49 | jaytee | what movie is that from? |
20:41.58 | drmessano | I just made it up |
20:41.59 | mvanbaak | Asterisk The Movie |
20:42.04 | drmessano | Damn right |
20:42.08 | jaytee | sounded familiar |
20:42.11 | drmessano | Asterisk needs a movie |
20:42.18 | ManxPower | mattx86: If you do port forwarding on the CLIENT side NAT, expect problems. |
20:42.36 | drmessano | Russell Crowe as Russell Bryant.. Oh shit, there goes the budget |
20:42.45 | jaytee | lol |
20:42.51 | ManxPower | Port forwarding is only normally required when ASTERISK is acting as a SERVER behind NAT. |
20:42.59 | oilinki | no kaippa tassa sitten voi puhua vaikka suomeksi, mikali porukat taalla rutisevat termistosta? |
20:43.13 | jaytee | whuh? |
20:43.37 | drmessano | I could see a rather compelling Russell Crowe scene where the devs are in a dim flourescent lit room and he's got a cigarette in his hand and stuble, and they're talking about the 1.6 feature list |
20:43.47 | drmessano | "Have your damn SIP TCP.. to hell with you all" |
20:44.04 | mvanbaak | whehehehe |
20:44.14 | oilinki | anyway. what is the prefered way to let the asterisk to connect to several sip-servers? |
20:44.16 | jaytee | hahaha |
20:44.30 | ManxPower | oilinki: SIP is the preferred way. |
20:44.33 | jaytee | what language was that? thai? |
20:44.52 | ManxPower | oilinki: You have never read The Good Book (Asterisk: The Future of Telephony) , have you. |
20:44.55 | oilinki | that was finnish. just an reminder if the terms and semantics are important. |
20:45.17 | oilinki | ManxPower: no and thanks for the info. I'll check that one out. |
20:45.23 | jaytee | ah, I have a good friend from Finland. He just got a job with IBM in Ireland |
20:45.28 | ManxPower | ~book |
20:45.29 | jbot | Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com, or see ~buybook |
20:46.06 | Ksilebo|Home | Aha, PBXIAF has an update script. |
20:46.08 | mvanbaak | oilinki: if you want to connect to a sip-server you dont have any alternative. it's called a 'sip-server' for a reason |
20:47.04 | jaytee | the book is really good, I liked it way better than The Cat in The Hat. |
20:47.15 | oilinki | mvanbaak: I'm already connected. but the problem is that when I connect to let's say pfingo in singapore, I have to use g729 codec. to another server I can use ulaw. |
20:47.34 | mvanbaak | oilinki: in sip.conf you can do: |
20:47.38 | mvanbaak | disallow=all |
20:47.40 | oilinki | and now I have several clients in home which also connect to my home asterisk. what codec to use with this. |
20:47.41 | drmessano | Mark Spencer, as played by Wil Wheaton walks in.. "Guys... there's cupcakes in the break room" and RB goes off on him.. yells "It's all your fault!" and pins him against a wall.. asks him "Do you feel that crushing pain in your chest?" "I feel that every day.. Every minute.. Choking on this code.. CHOKING" |
20:47.44 | mvanbaak | allow=g729 |
20:48.07 | mvanbaak | you can limit the codecs used on a per-sipaccount basis |
20:48.15 | mvanbaak | and asterisk can do the transcoding for you |
20:48.33 | mvanbaak | if you have to transcode from/to g729 you need to buy a license from digium |
20:48.34 | oilinki | mvanbaak: that would be good if I could use dtmf tones with g729.. and I also need to make calls to other sip servers as well. |
20:48.52 | jaytee | thinks a night out drinking with drmessano would be good for alot of laughs |
20:49.41 | oilinki | mvanbaak: but I can not limit. let's say I use Nokia e61i for making calls. When I dial 358XXXXXX the call will be routed to finish voip provider. when I call to 65XXX the call is routed to thailand.. and so on. |
20:49.54 | drmessano | They flash forward like 15 years into the future and you see a much older RB sitting on a park bench with his son.. "Hey Dad, this Asterisk phone is really cool!" "Yes, son.. yes it is..." and they play the cheesy music you'll hear on the Oscar award show to end out the movie |
20:50.08 | ManxPower | oilinki: you must PURCHASE the G729 codec |
20:50.16 | mvanbaak | sigh |
20:50.27 | oilinki | now all the voip providers sip servers use different codecs while connecting to them. |
20:50.41 | drmessano | Most of them will use G711 |
20:50.45 | oilinki | ok. how much is the g729 codec support? |
20:50.48 | ManxPower | oilinki: you configure each server in Astersik. |
20:50.50 | mvanbaak | oilinki: yup. that's why asterisk can transcode it for you |
20:50.53 | drmessano | and if you're using OpenWRT, forget G729 |
20:50.54 | ManxPower | oilinki: $10/per/channel |
20:51.04 | oilinki | drmessano: for example pfingo does not |
20:51.11 | oilinki | www.pfingo.com |
20:51.12 | drmessano | WTF is a pfingo? |
20:51.23 | jaytee | whoa! righteous bucks dude! |
20:51.43 | drmessano | HOLY CRAP |
20:51.44 | drmessano | ITS GOD |
20:51.49 | mvanbaak | oilinki: what drmessano means is: an openwrt device is not powerfull enough to do the transcoding from/to g729 |
20:51.51 | Ksilebo|Home | That is the stupidest site ever. |
20:51.52 | oilinki | well I might need to get a better server for tihs. |
20:52.11 | drmessano | pfingo will pay your taxes |
20:52.14 | drmessano | pfingo will wash your car |
20:52.21 | drmessano | pfingo will touch you like she wont |
20:52.26 | mvanbaak | pfingo will give you anal pleasure |
20:52.29 | drmessano | pfingo comes in three flavors |
20:52.30 | ManxPower | it'll crash your prowser with flash crap! |
20:52.31 | Ksilebo|Home | pfingo can be anything you want |
20:52.38 | Ksilebo|Home | pfingo will solve the world energy crises |
20:52.38 | ManxPower | and your browser too! |
20:52.43 | drmessano | It froze my year old PC up for about 10 seconds |
20:52.56 | Ksilebo|Home | pfingo will regrow the rainforest |
20:53.00 | oilinki | well. maybe you can ask their support for those. for me is free calls to singapore enought. |
20:53.12 | mvanbaak | pfingo schlingo |
20:53.12 | Ksilebo|Home | drmessano: Dude only a year old and it bogged it down? |
20:53.27 | drmessano | FF3 too.. not that shitty FF2 |
20:53.32 | rabelais | we are such jerks in here.... |
20:53.35 | rabelais | I love it, haha |
20:53.35 | drmessano | It froze it.. 100% CPU |
20:53.41 | jaytee | is trying to stop laughing about pfingo before he has to change his pants |
20:53.42 | Ksilebo|Home | YOur flash is broken. |
20:53.52 | mvanbaak | it froze my 2 week old Thinkpad as well |
20:53.55 | drmessano | ManxPowers must be too |
20:53.57 | Ksilebo|Home | Wow. |
20:54.00 | drmessano | and mvanbaaks |
20:54.04 | Ksilebo|Home | I am on a quad core though. |
20:54.06 | drmessano | duh |
20:54.10 | Strom_C | hang on hang on everyone |
20:54.14 | Strom_C | what are we bitching about again? |
20:54.15 | jaytee | 3 flavors AND anal pleasure? what a deal!!!! |
20:54.18 | Strom_C | i just got back from lunch |
20:54.19 | drmessano | pfingo |
20:54.25 | Ksilebo|Home | www.pfingo.com |
20:54.30 | Strom_C | looks |
20:54.32 | jaytee | god I love this channel |
20:54.33 | hsv-al | heh |
20:54.38 | hsv-al | after 4 days of searching |
20:54.45 | mvanbaak | Strom_C: it will freeze your pc |
20:54.47 | hsv-al | I found the artist that made the background music to the geico caveman commercial |
20:54.49 | mvanbaak | crappy flash |
20:54.57 | Strom_C | oh |
20:54.57 | Ksilebo|Home | pfingo will wash your clothes. |
20:55.03 | Strom_C | closes it quickly |
20:55.07 | drmessano | ***No hummingbirds or reputable web designers were used in the shitty fabrication of this site*** |
20:55.14 | jaytee | my sides hurt from laughing |
20:55.15 | Ksilebo|Home | pfingo will clean your cat's litterbox |
20:55.27 | *** join/#asterisk eXistenZ (i=pectic@unaffiliated/existenz) |
20:55.28 | jaytee | really? |
20:55.29 | Strom_C | HAHAHAH! I GOT AWAY WITHOUT A CRASH! MWAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHA *BONK* SOFTBALL |
20:55.35 | drmessano | HAHHA |
20:55.41 | mvanbaak | Strom_C: ROFL |
20:55.47 | drmessano | gives Strom_C the Pfingo |
20:55.53 | Ksilebo|Home | pfingo will resurface your deck |
20:55.57 | jaytee | shit I just pulled a muscle |
20:56.00 | nick125 | Note to self: don't click links in this channel. |
20:56.06 | Strom_C | why don't you just pfingo me later |
20:56.12 | rabelais | ooh, you can buy pfingosms credits at their store! |
20:56.16 | drmessano | PFINGO JUST GOT THAT TOUGH HARD WATER STAIN OUT OF MY TUB |
20:56.18 | Ksilebo|Home | pfingos Strom_C |
20:56.22 | drmessano | ZOMG!!!!1111!!!!11!!! |
20:56.33 | jaytee | drmessano, stop please it hurts |
20:56.57 | Ksilebo|Home | APPLY PFINGO DIRECTLY TO FOREHEAD |
20:56.57 | rabelais | that's what she said.... |
20:56.58 | rabelais | haha |
20:57.08 | drmessano | pfingoMAIL, pfingoTALK, and pfingoACTIVE.. coming soon, their social network, pfingoYOU |
20:57.19 | Ksilebo|Home | I just pfingoed your mom last night. |
20:57.20 | Strom_C | THEY CAN'T RECALL THE ONES IN MY CUPBOARD! HOMPTH NOM NOM HOMPTHSDFALSJWEFC(!_*(! |
20:57.21 | mvanbaak | all beta |
20:57.54 | rabelais | I'd like to take this moment to apologize to the poor guy who brought up the pfingo subject.... |
20:57.58 | ManxPower | Try signing up for DIDx sometime, you'll get their spam for the rest of the life of hte universe. |
20:58.03 | drmessano | Isn't pfingo'ing a beta considered cruelty to animals? |
20:58.03 | rabelais | we're not all total dickheads in here, honest |
20:58.11 | Ksilebo|Home | So far LES.net has been awesome |
20:58.23 | Ksilebo|Home | rabelais: I prefer the term asshole. |
20:59.08 | nick125 | rabelais: hey, let's not be so hasty. |
20:59.08 | oilinki | rabelais: no problems. my money is not in that company. |
20:59.08 | drmessano | Go pfingo yourself |
20:59.08 | Ksilebo|Home | PFINGO YOU |
20:59.09 | mvanbaak | FIRST PFINGO ! |
20:59.13 | mvanbaak | ha! beat that |
20:59.13 | drmessano | P11.......G83............F22...... ZOMG PFINGO! |
20:59.19 | Ksilebo|Home | HAHA |
20:59.27 | Ksilebo|Home | Oh man this should not be that amusing. |
20:59.34 | mvanbaak | yet it is |
20:59.35 | Strom_C | PFAST PFORWARDING TO PFIRST PFINGO |
20:59.35 | rabelais | good, so long as no one takes offense, we can all have a pfinging wonderful time |
20:59.43 | mvanbaak | it's pfingo awesome |
20:59.49 | hsv-al | wtf, this room is starting to look like #worldofwarcraft , that would exist on aol |
20:59.59 | drmessano | sings ...There was a newbie had a provider, and PFINGO was it's name-o |
21:00.07 | Ksilebo|Home | WHERE IS MANKIRK'S WIFE?! |
21:00.08 | drmessano | sings.. P-F-I-N-G-O |
21:00.09 | Strom_C | PF I N G O |
21:00.10 | drmessano | sings.. P-F-I-N-G-O |
21:00.15 | Strom_C | no no no |
21:00.19 | Strom_C | PF is one letter |
21:00.21 | drmessano | sings.. and PFINGO was his name on |
21:00.23 | drmessano | sings.. and PFINGO was his name oh |
21:00.29 | Strom_C | pronounced like "FFFFFFF" with slobber everywhere |
21:00.34 | drmessano | Ahhh |
21:00.34 | Ksilebo|Home | You pfingoed that up. |
21:00.39 | drmessano | So it's like.. |
21:01.03 | drmessano | *Spit all over you*-ingo |
21:01.06 | drmessano | I get it |
21:01.08 | mvanbaak | oh, what the pfingo do I care |
21:01.32 | rabelais | oh mercy.....did anyone click on the aboutus? |
21:01.58 | drmessano | pictures a scene from napolean dynamite 2.. "It's not Myspace, loser.. it's *SPITS ALL OVER YOU*-ingo" |
21:02.15 | rabelais | pfingo is a unit developed by "advanced multimedia services", which is a business unit within "StarHub" |
21:02.24 | nick125 | rabelais: do I want to click on it? |
21:02.27 | drmessano | Wait.. |
21:02.42 | rabelais | does that mean pfingo leverages the power of starhub to deliver it's goods and services? |
21:02.48 | drmessano | StarHub.. How did the find out the name of my basement D&D hangout? |
21:02.56 | nick125 | hahah |
21:03.12 | drmessano | "it's not a lair, it's a STARHUB" |
21:04.03 | Ksilebo|Home | That's no moon its a STARHUB |
21:04.08 | drmessano | Holy crap |
21:04.16 | drmessano | They offer 100MB of online storage |
21:04.20 | Ksilebo|Home | LOCK IN AUXILIARY POWER |
21:04.38 | drmessano | That's like.. enough for almost 3 files! |
21:04.44 | *** join/#asterisk jack_sparo (n=eddy@91.73.203.98) |
21:04.49 | rabelais | pfin must be some kind of word in malay or mandarin |
21:05.02 | rabelais | we're just so culturally insensitive that we rip into everything |
21:05.24 | drmessano | Do you know how much porn I could put in an online 100MB storage area? Like.. ok, I just did.. |
21:05.56 | nick125 | 100MB is a lot... |
21:05.59 | nick125 | ...in 1995. |
21:06.19 | Ksilebo|Home | Dude that's like, a whole zip disk |
21:06.44 | drmessano | pfin is tibetian for "Fast" and they use the english word "Go" |
21:06.47 | drmessano | So it's FastGo |
21:06.50 | drmessano | Wow, sounds.. hot |
21:07.00 | nick125 | or 69.4 floppies! |
21:07.30 | drmessano | 40% of a 250MB Zip disk! |
21:07.52 | drmessano | Which is normally what's left after you try to take the disk out without hitting eject first |
21:08.20 | hsv-al | reminds me, , , , picking up a 64gb solid state HD today |
21:08.25 | nick125 | aah, those were the good days. |
21:08.32 | hsv-al | i saw it playing crysis today on a high end rig, the seek time is sick on that for gaming |
21:08.38 | drmessano | Solid State HD's are not ready yet.. trust me |
21:08.46 | hsv-al | well i got a $500 one from dell |
21:08.50 | hsv-al | for $75 - wont say how heh |
21:08.53 | hsv-al | but its snappy as hell |
21:09.09 | Ksilebo|Home | I got 4 10k RPM drives in RAID5 on a 3ware SATA card. |
21:09.21 | *** join/#asterisk mvanbaak_ (n=michiel@vanbaak.xs4all.nl) |
21:09.27 | Ksilebo|Home | Loads Crysis fast. |
21:09.28 | hsv-al | ksilebo, they are quick , but I swear by our 73gb sas 15k rpm drives |
21:09.33 | hsv-al | at work in our 2950's |
21:09.47 | Ksilebo|Home | We have those at work in the IBMs. |
21:09.48 | Ksilebo|Home | Speedy. |
21:10.18 | hsv-al | http://www.myspace.com/devinsmith - - artist that made the geico caveman song |
21:10.19 | rabelais | until I see an mtd device layer for those solid state drives, I call shenanigans |
21:10.22 | mvanbaak_ | I prefer netapp |
21:10.22 | hsv-al | first song in the list . |
21:10.28 | drmessano | I got 8GB of UltraATA 66 monster power |
21:10.30 | Ksilebo|Home | Netapps are nice. |
21:10.31 | hsv-al | parts of that song are gimp, but the spacey stuff is tight |
21:10.58 | Ksilebo|Home | If I'm not using any Zaptel hardware, can I safely disable it? |
21:10.59 | oilinki | netapps are good but slightly expensive for home usage :) |
21:11.05 | mvanbaak_ | we netboot our boxen and run totally from netapp |
21:11.26 | Ksilebo|Home | My colo box boots of an FC LUN with ESX |
21:11.29 | mvanbaak_ | oilinki: you can get netapp gear from ebay for a good price |
21:11.31 | drmessano | Until I see a solid state hard drive last 365 days, I am calling total shenanigans |
21:11.43 | hsv-al | drmessano, please dont make "shenanigan" the catch phrase |
21:11.45 | drmessano | Solid State HD's are buggier than Asterisk 1.4.0 |
21:11.46 | hsv-al | for #asterisk for 2008 |
21:12.05 | hsv-al | the only worthy catch phrases are "Subprime", and "speculation" |
21:12.10 | hsv-al | mortage crisis, and oil prices manipulation :) |
21:12.22 | hsv-al | mortgage |
21:12.23 | oilinki | mvanbaak: well might be, but my current setup is good enought for now. |
21:12.26 | drmessano | Pfingo you, hsv-al |
21:12.31 | Ksilebo|Home | Ok, NOW I'm running 1.4.21 |
21:12.58 | Ksilebo|Home | Same thing, damn. |
21:13.22 | hsv-al | drmessano, www.youtube.com/watch?v=AR4VSfOF3IQ |
21:13.32 | mvanbaak_ | Ksilebo|Home: what's the output of: 'core show version' |
21:13.46 | Ksilebo|Home | Asterisk 1.4.21 built by root @ pbx.local on a i686 running Linux on 2008-06-14 21:05:13 UTC |
21:14.16 | drmessano | I wonder if pfingo is made by pfizer.. "Get a leg up on your calling" |
21:14.44 | drmessano | Jazz hands |
21:14.45 | Ksilebo|Home | I should probably eat soonish. |
21:14.47 | hsv-al | ive seen a sick and demented trend in gaming, , , the new catch phrase in that culture is "Koned", along side with a picture |
21:14.55 | mvanbaak_ | Ksilebo|Home: are you sure asterisk and the sip device have the same dtmfmode setting ? |
21:14.56 | hsv-al | the person who is "Koned" wears a cone shaped dunce cap with the phrase: Koned |
21:15.28 | drmessano | http://www.sewerhorse.com/ |
21:15.37 | drmessano | sewerhorse says "Hay!" |
21:15.40 | Ksilebo|Home | I should probably eat soonish., trunk has that set as well. |
21:15.45 | Ksilebo|Home | ...what the hell |
21:15.46 | oilinki | how about in usa, are people using voip on their mobile phones a lot nowdays? |
21:15.50 | Ksilebo|Home | TRYING AGAIN |
21:15.58 | oilinki | or is it just niche/nerd thing to do? |
21:16.05 | hsv-al | drmessan |
21:16.06 | Ksilebo|Home | Zoiper has rfc2833 |
21:16.08 | hsv-al | if thats your site |
21:16.11 | hsv-al | put google adsense on it |
21:16.14 | Ksilebo|Home | Trunk has it set as well |
21:16.15 | hsv-al | and make it the next Legal goatse |
21:16.17 | hsv-al | that circulate the net |
21:16.37 | drmessano | hsv-al: That's been circulating for a while now |
21:16.52 | Ksilebo|Home | And that SIP extension has it set too. |
21:17.19 | drmessano | They have a pfingo pforum |
21:17.23 | mvanbaak_ | I have never seen it |
21:17.37 | drmessano | That's pfucking pfabulous |
21:17.50 | hsv-al | so whats this "pfingo" bs |
21:17.52 | mvanbaak_ | drmessano: I bet they also have a pfingo pfailure |
21:17.55 | hsv-al | some new "phrase" thats in the 'in' ? |
21:18.05 | Ksilebo|Home | oilinki: Only T-Mobile has a consumer-targeted VoIP solution if you have the right phone. |
21:18.09 | Ksilebo|Home | In the US at least. |
21:18.32 | mvanbaak_ | some nokia phones have a sip client |
21:18.38 | oilinki | Ksilebo|Home: ok. there is no isp's providing the service at all? |
21:18.39 | Ksilebo|Home | The N95 has SIP |
21:18.39 | drmessano | Now that's we've been that dead sewer horse |
21:18.45 | mvanbaak_ | and all windows mobile based devices can run sjphone |
21:18.49 | Ksilebo|Home | oilinki: Not Mobile ones. |
21:19.00 | drmessano | Would the next person with a cheesy VoIP startup please step pforward |
21:19.17 | Ksilebo|Home | There are multiple consumer-targeted VoIP services that some ISPs are trying too. |
21:19.21 | mvanbaak_ | steps forward |
21:19.25 | mvanbaak_ | voip4all |
21:19.38 | drmessano | pfownr |
21:19.42 | oilinki | Ksilebo|Home: ok. well the service does not have to be together with the mobile operators as you know. |
21:19.48 | drmessano | HappyClownPBX.com is not taken! |
21:20.08 | mvanbaak | oops, forgot the m |
21:20.14 | mvanbaak | must be packet loss |
21:20.22 | drmessano | pfank you |
21:20.35 | mvanbaak | pfsck you |
21:20.50 | oilinki | Ksilebo|Home: I suppose just trying currently, not really used? |
21:20.52 | drmessano | I'm so aliasing that command |
21:20.56 | hsv-al | this talk with "P" is making me think about a new |
21:20.59 | nick125 | you pnucking people! |
21:21.00 | hsv-al | licesnse plate i should get on a g37 |
21:21.12 | hsv-al | Qwned, Qwn3d, Pwned, Pwn3d, 0WN3D, or Koned |
21:21.13 | hsv-al | heh |
21:21.13 | mvanbaak | I see pfead ppl |
21:21.26 | Ksilebo|Home | oilinki: People use them with varying degrees of success. |
21:21.43 | hsv-al | how many people actually outside the scope of tech associated people |
21:21.51 | hsv-al | know of the use and variations of the "owned" phrase |
21:21.56 | drmessano | hsv-al: 1.8 |
21:22.01 | mvanbaak | 42 |
21:22.09 | hsv-al | :) |
21:22.26 | drmessano | Always nice to hear someone say p-owned in public |
21:22.32 | drmessano | I'm like, "ZOMGWTF" |
21:22.53 | mvanbaak | you forgot BBQ |
21:23.00 | drmessano | LIEK, WIL U B MAH BFF? |
21:23.09 | drmessano | No BBQ for them |
21:23.14 | Ksilebo|Home | Ok food |
21:23.21 | hsv-al | my only food today was a bottle of |
21:23.28 | hsv-al | Pom Pomegranite juice, and coffee |
21:23.31 | hsv-al | ;-[] |
21:23.45 | drmessano | U R SO KOL I CANUT B W/OUT UR BFFSHIP, K? |
21:23.52 | *** join/#asterisk eXistenZ (n=existenz@unaffiliated/existenz) |
21:23.54 | mvanbaak | I'm close to emptying my second bottle of red wine |
21:23.59 | hsv-al | eXistenZ |
21:24.01 | hsv-al | that movie is ridiculous |
21:24.06 | mvanbaak | it is |
21:24.10 | mvanbaak | but it's good as well |
21:24.12 | mvanbaak | I liked it |
21:24.19 | hsv-al | lets eat a malformed lizard, and take it apart |
21:24.22 | hsv-al | and use it as a gun |
21:24.25 | hsv-al | and use pig teeth as the bullets |
21:24.55 | mvanbaak | hsv-al: it's all a game |
21:25.22 | drmessano | HA |
21:25.33 | drmessano | [Digg] Man Busted For Wearing Diaper Full Of Heroin; Faces 40 Years - <--- YOURE A NAUGHTY BOY AND NEED A SPANKING |
21:25.36 | hsv-al | http://bp0.blogger.com/_qC4nHuRToFk/Ri7uedv3eqI/AAAAAAAAAGQ/hJLgevZPsvE/s400/BoneGun000.jpg |
21:26.18 | drmessano | Im waiting for |
21:26.33 | *** join/#asterisk eXistenZ (i=existenz@unaffiliated/existenz) |
21:26.35 | mvanbaak | res/res_spacecake.c |
21:26.40 | drmessano | [Digg] Man arrested running through airport with open source PBX in his pants |
21:26.51 | drmessano | "FREE RUSSELL B!" |
21:26.57 | mvanbaak | lol |
21:27.03 | mvanbaak | he has a zaurus running asterisk ? |
21:27.19 | drmessano | Is that the word they use in your country? |
21:27.40 | mvanbaak | http://zaurus.kd85.com/ |
21:28.02 | hsv-al | well, off for a 5 mile run = lose another 1.2 - 1.4 lbs for the day |
21:28.03 | drmessano | OHHHHHHHH.. that's QUITE different |
21:28.07 | hsv-al | have fun eating taco bell yall :) |
21:28.30 | mvanbaak | drmessano: I had one |
21:28.45 | mvanbaak | full OpenBSD server with firewall, vpn server, asterisk etc |
21:28.47 | drmessano | mvanbaak: In your pants... with asterisk on it? |
21:28.52 | mvanbaak | all in my pants |
21:29.06 | drmessano | gasps in awe at mvanbaak |
21:29.22 | mvanbaak | the device is great |
21:29.37 | hsv-al | In the movie eXistenZ, Jude Law plays an assassin in a futuristic virtual reality game. His target is in a Chinese food restaurant; the bones of genetically modified amphibians (served as the restaurant's "Daily Special") lock together to make a functioning bone gun. The ammunition is teeth from Jude Law's dental plate. A brilliant sci-fi concept. The rest of the movie sucked. |
21:29.53 | drmessano | "Is that a Unix in your pocket, or are you just happy to cat me?" |
21:30.49 | mvanbaak | drmessano: still it's fun to have a device like that. it will setup multiple ipsec vpns and have a full pbx on it |
21:31.33 | mvanbaak | use the console driver and earplugs and there you go |
21:32.05 | mvanbaak | I sold it and got a thinkpad |
21:32.12 | mvanbaak | needed the extra power and stuff |
21:33.30 | drmessano | I wanted a really powerful handheld for a while.. then I got too claustrophobic being tethered with cell phone and blackberry's |
21:34.01 | mvanbaak | I have a blackberry 8110 |
21:34.15 | drmessano | I have an 8830 |
21:34.21 | mvanbaak | my boss got it for me |
21:34.31 | mvanbaak | to replace my qtek S100 |
21:35.15 | drmessano | The 8110 is pretty cool |
21:35.21 | drmessano | I like the full keyboard tho |
21:35.45 | oilinki | drmessano: n810 is one option. it's not really powerfull tought. runnin linux. |
21:36.16 | drmessano | Yeah, Dont need another device |
21:36.22 | mvanbaak | drmessano: yeah. but I'm already used to the keyboard setup of the 8110 |
21:36.40 | mvanbaak | and most of the time I'm using bluetooth to communicate with it |
21:36.47 | mvanbaak | I really like my thinkpad |
21:36.55 | drmessano | hsv-al must really want us to know he's 450lbs |
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22:01.37 | kamh | by all |
22:04.57 | *** join/#asterisk weiles (n=weiles__@mnhm-590f7c91.pool.einsundeins.de) |
22:05.07 | weiles | hi |
22:05.36 | weiles | i have configured an internal asterisk server to route sip calls through an openvpn |
22:05.50 | weiles | i have tested it with ekiga and a fritzbox on the one side and it worked really well |
22:06.39 | weiles | but it took 2 hours today for my friend with a different ip subnet on the other side of the openvpn to login and call me |
22:06.59 | weiles | the firewall was off from the beginning on both sides |
22:07.49 | weiles | suddenly it worked after i have logged in with his account and vice versa (the accounts are really simple and only differ in the the name |
22:07.55 | weiles | any ideas why it works now? |
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22:10.20 | john_fbac | weiles: there must have been something that synced when you switched accounts to test. |
22:11.28 | weiles | john_fbac, any ideas what it has been? |
22:11.40 | mvanbaak | weiles: only you can tell |
22:11.50 | mvanbaak | config changes, firewall changes, etc |
22:11.54 | mvanbaak | a lot of parameters |
22:12.02 | weiles | mvanbaak, firewall was off and i have not changed the config |
22:12.17 | weiles | i have only switched debugging on and off in the asterisk cli |
22:12.26 | weiles | and i have once added nat=yes |
22:12.30 | weiles | and removed it afterwards |
22:12.38 | weiles | both reloading having no effect |
22:12.56 | weiles | i am just wondering what has been synced there |
22:13.22 | weiles | asterisk listens to 0.0.0.0 on my server |
22:13.59 | weiles | but the ips from the different subnets on the other side of the openvpn are only routed from my side |
22:14.25 | weiles | so maybe asterisk couldn't assign the ips to an interface at first? |
22:15.15 | mvanbaak | probably |
22:15.23 | mvanbaak | I've seen the same stuff with ipsec |
22:15.38 | mvanbaak | a reload of asterisk after the ipsec tunnel got up helped |
22:16.06 | mvanbaak | from then I decided to never run asterisk on the same box that does the vpn stuff |
22:16.35 | weiles | mvanbaak, hmm strange |
22:16.43 | weiles | it is really hard to debug |
22:16.53 | mvanbaak | I always use a double net5501 as firewall/vpn/router |
22:17.03 | mvanbaak | and put asterisk on some real hardware |
22:17.26 | mvanbaak | at least two boxen. I prefer 3 |
22:17.39 | weiles | mvanbaak, sorry only cheap home hardware here :-( |
22:17.45 | mvanbaak | same here |
22:18.09 | weiles | a linux and openbsd router on both sides |
22:18.19 | mvanbaak | at home I have 2 net5501 boxen as firewall/vpn/router in a redundant setup running on OpenBSD |
22:18.20 | weiles | well each on one side |
22:18.37 | mvanbaak | and two servers with xen running asterisk, ircd, apache |
22:18.44 | weiles | mvanbaak, not bad |
22:18.55 | *** join/#asterisk airjump (n=chatzill@p508AD966.dip.t-dialin.net) |
22:19.07 | mvanbaak | a net5501 is like 200 euro |
22:19.11 | mvanbaak | so get two of those |
22:19.32 | mvanbaak | that makes a great redundant OpenBSD firewall/router/vpn server setup |
22:19.37 | weiles | is looking net5501 up |
22:19.54 | mvanbaak | with carp, sasyncd, pfsync etc |
22:20.08 | mvanbaak | that is your firewall/router/vpn box |
22:20.52 | mvanbaak | http://www.soekris.com/net5501.htm |
22:21.48 | weiles | have found it |
22:21.51 | weiles | sound good |
22:21.55 | weiles | i have a via c3 here |
22:22.33 | mvanbaak | http://soekris.kd85.com/images/dsc07080.jpg |
22:22.39 | mvanbaak | that's my firewall |
22:22.50 | weiles | with an encrypted raid and some small media/music jukebox |
22:23.23 | airjump | hi mvanbaak: nice pc |
22:23.47 | mvanbaak | I love it |
22:23.50 | weiles | ok thanks, i hope the problem is gone now |
22:24.05 | mvanbaak | two firewalls in 1U |
22:24.47 | weiles | bye |
22:25.22 | airjump | mvanbaak: what is your os libux or bsd= |
22:26.20 | mvanbaak | OpenBSD |
22:30.40 | drmessano | I wish the delegate proxy app had a forum or IRC channel |
22:32.21 | *** join/#asterisk TedNJ38 (n=HungLad@ool-43533668.dyn.optonline.net) |
22:32.22 | TedNJ38 | I have a question for you guys. I have a little problem. I have a SIP Phone (BT 102), it was already configured, I changed the extension number and the password to authenticate with my server. I have re-started it several times but it still links itself to my system with the old ones. What am I doing wrong? Should I clear any cache in my box? |
22:33.50 | drmessano | Factory reset the phone |
22:34.49 | TedNJ38 | I already did. |
22:35.01 | mvanbaak | zzzzzzzzzzzzzz time |
22:35.06 | TedNJ38 | But it won't even let me do that. |
22:35.11 | drmessano | Wait |
22:35.14 | drmessano | You already did |
22:35.19 | drmessano | But it's not letting you |
22:35.20 | TedNJ38 | No, not factory reset. |
22:35.22 | drmessano | Which is it? |
22:35.25 | TedNJ38 | I did simple reset. |
22:35.25 | drmessano | Ok |
22:35.28 | TedNJ38 | I couldn't do a factory reset. |
22:35.28 | drmessano | Factory reset |
22:35.30 | TedNJ38 | It won't respond to the key sequence that the manual says. |
22:35.46 | TedNJ38 | Menu, Key Up, MAC Address, Menu. |
22:35.53 | TedNJ38 | The phone won't let me input the number of the MAC Address. |
22:35.55 | drmessano | \o/??? |
22:36.17 | drmessano | How are you keying the letters? |
22:36.23 | mvanbaak | latero |
22:36.35 | drmessano | later mvanbaak |
22:36.55 | drmessano | Is C = 2 or 222? |
22:38.29 | TedNJ38 | B = 222 |
22:38.49 | drmessano | WTF |
22:39.02 | drmessano | Does it SHOW B? or is that guess? |
22:39.09 | TedNJ38 | Nope. |
22:39.15 | TedNJ38 | It doesn't show anything when I press the keys. |
22:39.18 | drmessano | Try B = 2 |
22:39.28 | TedNJ38 | Ok. |
22:39.32 | drmessano | T = 8 |
22:39.33 | drmessano | Etc |
22:39.39 | drmessano | This isn't text messaging |
22:40.05 | drmessano | HA |
22:40.23 | drmessano | HungLad.. I'm guess he masquerades around IRC a bit.. |
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22:44.45 | DrukenLPY | anyone here know mssql (not my choice) but i need to hack into the sa acct of my server.... |
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23:19.35 | Ward1983 | can someone please point me to the asterisk documentation? |
23:19.47 | Ward1983 | i cant find it on the website |
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23:20.42 | Strom_C | ~book |
23:20.43 | jbot | Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com, or see ~buybook |
23:20.56 | Strom_C | it's also in the /usr/src/asterisk directory |
23:20.59 | xacatecas | hi guys, in general (not for a particular setup), how would one go about trouble-shooting sporadic one-way voice issues? |
23:21.10 | ManxPower | Ward1983: there is only one source of OFFICIAL documentation and that is the "doc" directory of the Asterisk source. The book above is also a good source of information |
23:21.29 | ManxPower | The Wiki and the mailing lists, while full of out of date, inaccurate and just plain wrong information is also useful. |
23:21.35 | xacatecas | (in other words, when I test I can't reproduce but the client claims that on some calls they can hear the called party but the called party can't hear them). |
23:21.35 | Ward1983 | ok thanx |
23:21.44 | Ward1983 | i just downloaded that book so ill start there :) |
23:21.54 | xacatecas | it's a good book. |
23:22.43 | Ward1983 | a lot to print though :) |
23:24.09 | Strom_C | just read it on the screen |
23:24.15 | Strom_C | or buy the bound version -- cheaper than printing |
23:26.05 | xacatecas | yea, but you wait longer :) |
23:26.21 | xacatecas | just printed with n-up=2 and two-sided. |
23:26.35 | Strom_C | or *gasp* actually have to go to the store and interact with REAL PEOPLE |
23:26.42 | xacatecas | still want a nicely bound copy though ... looks much more impressive on the shelf :) |
23:27.08 | xacatecas | Strom_C, no, because they don't actually stock the books i generally want because "it's no in demand" |
23:27.33 | ManxPower | I think "buy the bound version" means "order it online" |
23:27.52 | Strom_C | ManxPower: right, but the bookstore is for us instant-gratification addicts |
23:28.09 | Strom_C | xacatecas: what crazy rural town do you live in that doesn't have a Borders or a B&N? |
23:28.19 | xacatecas | pretoria, south africa. |
23:28.30 | Strom_C | agh |
23:29.00 | xacatecas | the closest to B&N is fascination books - and they suck in comparison. |
23:29.08 | ManxPower | Strom_C: You Internationally Insensitive Clod! |
23:29.33 | xacatecas | YIIC :). I suspect you just invented a new one. |
23:30.07 | Strom_C | ManxPower: hey, I regularly consume boerwors and mrs. ball's chutney, so go do something nasty which I can't spell in Afrikaans. |
23:30.40 | xacatecas | haha, afrikaans is die beste :) |
23:31.08 | Strom_C | i think it's something like "gaan kak en die mieles" but I could be off |
23:31.35 | Strom_C | i'll just call him a ditkopf and be done with it |
23:31.38 | Ward1983 | Strom_C, im gonna ask if i can print it at school on a 15000euro xerix printer |
23:31.39 | Ward1983 | lol |
23:31.46 | Ward1983 | if i pay them for the paper and ink |
23:32.05 | Ward1983 | xerox i mean offcourse lol |
23:32.07 | Strom_C | is Xerix the cheap Eastern European knockoff of Xerox? :) |
23:32.27 | Ward1983 | i allready said i meant xerox :) |
23:32.28 | drmessano | Thats too funny |
23:32.31 | xacatecas | Strom_C, close enough. |
23:32.43 | drmessano | Not "Hey, they have a free PDF of the book for a reference copy" |
23:32.54 | drmessano | "Oh, and PDF.. cool, let me go run off 8 copies" |
23:33.01 | drmessano | Damn child molesters |
23:33.09 | Ward1983 | ? |
23:33.10 | xacatecas | that is random. |
23:33.26 | Strom_C | drmessano: never underestimate the power of the "I'm saving money" illusion |
23:33.54 | Ward1983 | i allready told you i menat xerox, if you still want to act childish about a stupid typo....... then im just gonna ignore you |
23:34.18 | drmessano | Strom_C: Never underestimate the power of being cheap as much as humanly possible.. "Wait, asterisk is free.. WHY DO I NEED A $100 CARD FOR IT????!!!!" |
23:35.04 | drmessano | "BUY A BOOK? WHAT? BULL****.. TORRENT PLZ" |
23:37.11 | drmessano | Speaking of Torrents |
23:37.23 | drmessano | I guess I need to seed 1.4.21 |
23:37.32 | drmessano | See who bites |
23:37.48 | Strom_C | hahaha |
23:38.01 | nick125 | aSteriSK-1.4.21-cracked |
23:39.19 | drmessano | LQQK_COMPLETE_aSTERISK_PXB_SOURCE_C0DE-D4E1 |
23:39.23 | Strom_C | i remember the picture someone posted of them writing a ten line perl script to generate every IP address, put it in a text file, zipped up, put it up as "EVery IP address!!! SECRET HACKER TOOL!!," and had something like 100 people downloading it shortly afterwards |
23:39.42 | drmessano | D4E1 is my cracker group.. Darwinism For Every 1 |
23:39.44 | jblack | strom: thanks for the help a couple nights ago |
23:39.49 | drmessano | Only the finest Open Source warez |
23:39.51 | Strom_C | jblack: welcome |
23:40.06 | drmessano | ZOMG.. I REMEMBER THE EVERY IP ADDRESS |
23:40.08 | drmessano | HAHAHAHHA |
23:40.15 | drmessano | That..... was SOOO.. awesome |
23:40.30 | drmessano | I laughed for 10 mins straight, I think |
23:41.19 | drmessano | Zaptel-DAHDI-Patched4ISDN-D4E1 |
23:42.51 | drmessano | Asterisk-1.3-***EXTREMELY_RARE*** |
23:43.04 | drmessano | Throw in some 1.4 beta code |
23:44.01 | jaytee | with a couple links to pfingo |
23:44.42 | drmessano | P-F-I-N-G-O, P-F-I-N-G-O, P-F-I-N-G-O, and PFINGO was it's name, oh! |
23:45.37 | jaytee | I just got back from shopping ten minutes ago and my sides are still hurting from the whole pfingo fiasco that was going on in here earlier. |
23:45.59 | drmessano | I like how theres a trend for web 2.0 startups to use unnecessary wildlife in their flash intros |
23:46.14 | drmessano | WTF does a hummingbird have to do with VoIP? |
23:46.43 | jaytee | isn't there something in the specs for web 2.0 that makes a flash intro mandatory? |
23:47.18 | jaytee | hummingbirds SIP nectar from flowers (ducks) |
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23:48.18 | drmessano | I'm gonna create a fake startup with an awesome flash intro that uses an elk in it's intro |
23:48.28 | jaytee | yak akka dak!!! |
23:48.29 | drmessano | WTF does an Elk have to do with VoIP? Who cares |
23:49.30 | jaytee | Elk are magnificent creatures, the four legged ones, not the two legged drunks down at the lodge. |
23:50.36 | drmessano | Honeybees |
23:50.40 | drmessano | No |
23:50.41 | drmessano | WASPS |
23:50.43 | Strom_C | macsbug |
23:50.59 | drmessano | Mosquite hawks |
23:51.00 | jaytee | this was a sad week at work. we lost a kodiak bear, the last one we had. |
23:51.04 | drmessano | mosquito |
23:51.22 | drmessano | You work at a Zoo? |
23:51.23 | jaytee | died from some problem with blood coagulation |
23:51.31 | jaytee | yeah, the Indianapolis Zoo |
23:51.37 | drmessano | Thats cool |
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23:52.04 | jaytee | we had two kodiaks that were raised from cubs, brothers, and one died in the fall and then one died wednesday. |
23:52.12 | drmessano | Damn |
23:52.34 | jaytee | I got to ride an elephant last week. My hips and quads were sore for two days afterwards. |
23:53.05 | jaytee | but it was really fun |
23:53.11 | drmessano | Last time I went to the zoo, I spent like 20 mins taking pics of the Koala they had.. then 3 weeks later I found out it had cancer |
23:53.16 | drmessano | I think it died in like 2 weeks |
23:53.37 | jaytee | awwww, we just opened our Koala exhibit. It runs till Sept and then they're off to some other zoo |
23:53.53 | jaytee | they're cute and smell like cough drops |
23:53.59 | drmessano | I saw a ton of them when I was in Australia |
23:54.14 | jaytee | I so want to go to Australia |
23:54.26 | drmessano | It's worth the $1800 plane ticket |
23:55.11 | jaytee | yeah, I'd probably spend twice that much on rough opal, cutting and polishing it then selling it is one of my "hobbies" |
23:55.28 | drmessano | 24 hours total travel time |
23:55.43 | jaytee | so I'd like to go to Coober Pedy and Lightening Ridge |
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23:55.53 | jaytee | I have a couple friends that live in Melbourne |
23:56.03 | drmessano | Thats where I went |
23:56.25 | jaytee | did you go to the outback at all? see Ayers Rock? |
23:57.03 | drmessano | No.. not as far as the outback.. did get out free far outside town while visiting.. saw kangaroos in the wild |
23:57.27 | jaytee | we've got them at our zoo |
23:58.10 | drmessano | Seeing them out in the wild running around like deer is pretty hardcore |
23:58.25 | jaytee | that would be cool |
23:58.38 | jaytee | "He's got a gun!!!" |
23:58.50 | Strom_C | I went to melbourne and didn't see kangaroo or koala |
23:58.55 | Strom_C | I think I ate kangaroo, though |
23:58.57 | jaytee | "nice work, skippy!" |
23:58.59 | drmessano | lol |
23:59.25 | drmessano | I got to drink a bottle of world famous Victoria Bitter |
23:59.31 | drmessano | Worst.. Beer.... Ever |
23:59.45 | jaytee | I think we've had this arguement before |