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| 00:14.36 | deStone | has an office of 50 employees with a terrible phone system. Our office will soon be jumping to 100+ employees. I've come across asterisk out of hobby -- are their any enterprise level open source phone systems available? |
| 00:15.22 | drmessano | You're asking about recommendations for other phone systems.. in #asterisk? |
| 00:15.27 | deStone | no no no |
| 00:15.48 | deStone | i'm wanting someone to say, you know what, asterisk could be enterprise level :) |
| 00:16.04 | drmessano | Ever heard of Thailand? |
| 00:16.27 | drmessano | They're whole country's PSTN system is run on Asterisk |
| 00:16.32 | drmessano | Ok, it's not |
| 00:16.35 | coppice | well, the Enterprise is supposed to have about 400 people on it. I think * can handle that, as long as the call rate is not too high |
| 00:16.37 | drmessano | and I spelled they're wrong |
| 00:16.55 | rob0 | Enterprise solutions require Vulcan expertise. |
| 00:17.02 | deStone | hah. |
| 00:17.12 | rob0 | (I actually started out to say something serious) |
| 00:17.29 | drmessano | Enterprise solutions are usually 500 users and up |
| 00:17.29 | rob0 | ~cheap |
| 00:17.30 | jbot | hmm... cheap is a bad idea. If you're setting up an Asterisk system, one of the wisest pieces of advice you can take is this: DON'T BE A CHEAPSKATE. |
| 00:17.35 | drmessano | 100 medium |
| 00:18.08 | coppice | i thought enterprise was just a trigger word to make people laugh |
| 00:18.10 | drmessano | You don't want an enterprise solution anyway.. Microsoft sells those.. they're not so hot |
| 00:18.20 | drmessano | You want a phone system |
| 00:18.24 | deStone | see, you've already sold me. |
| 00:18.24 | drmessano | So start off there |
| 00:18.56 | drmessano | Avoid Cisco too |
| 00:19.11 | drmessano | They have a good idea how to run the intarweb, but no clue what users want... |
| 00:19.18 | deStone | Ive been on CIC and i thought it sucked |
| 00:20.07 | drmessano | But since most users of intarweb quality gear are 50 yr old thrice divorced, fat, aging bald guys with high cholesterol and smokers breath, they dont need to worrry about them |
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| 00:20.47 | rob0 | I don't smoke, and only divorced once. |
| 00:20.53 | grandpapadot | Which is better, madplay or mpg123? |
| 00:21.15 | drmessano | All you have to do to impress a sysadmin of a million dollar piece of Cisco gear is throw in one polystyrene insert into the packing crate that looks like a set of boobs, and they're set for a year |
| 00:22.03 | drmessano | But when it comes to end users, Cisco is clueless.. hence buying Linksys.. "So we can figure out how to sell to soccer moms" |
| 00:22.59 | drmessano | "what do I need to get on the internet?" "Oh, a nice 2801 router with a dual T1 WIC will work great!" "Can I get on Yahoo with that?" |
| 00:23.07 | drmessano | yeah.. cisco.. not user friendly |
| 00:23.12 | riddlebox | hahaha |
| 00:23.45 | drmessano | Linksys on the other hand... |
| 00:23.48 | riddlebox | drmessano, you forgot about the fact that they want you to buy two of everything for backup |
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| 00:24.25 | drmessano | "what do I need to get on the internet?" "Try a WRT54G.. you can get to the WHOLE internet with it!" "Oh wow, thanks!" |
| 00:24.48 | edibrac | what's an example of being a cheapskate for setting up a * system? |
| 00:25.09 | edibrac | i mean, say for the so-called "SMB" crowd |
| 00:25.32 | drmessano | X100P cards, grandstream phones, eMachine box, single maxtor IDE drive |
| 00:25.43 | drmessano | Thats cheapskate |
| 00:26.22 | edibrac | they let me have a grandstream so i can setup at home, where i work |
| 00:26.30 | edibrac | er my work let me have one |
| 00:26.33 | drmessano | I'm sorry for that |
| 00:26.57 | drmessano | Sorry I couldn't prevent that from happening |
| 00:26.58 | edibrac | it's not bad compared to nothing at all .. er no I had an ekiga of course |
| 00:26.58 | drmessano | I know you feel like crap, but they meant well |
| 00:28.49 | riddlebox | maybe they are testing the waters.... |
| 00:29.22 | drmessano | By peeing in the pool? |
| 00:29.26 | edibrac | our real phones are linksys SPA942's - they gave me a Budgetone 102 to test with. I was about to ask here what's so bad about grandstream, but apparently there's a whole website dedicated to taht |
| 00:29.46 | deStone | url plez? |
| 00:29.47 | drmessano | There's nothing wrong with a phone that has the name BUDGET in it |
| 00:29.49 | drmessano | Nothing at all |
| 00:29.53 | deStone | haha |
| 00:30.07 | riddlebox | edibrac, I have 4 of the GXP2000's here at home |
| 00:30.13 | edibrac | grandstreamsucks.com |
| 00:30.14 | grandpapadot | Which is better, madplay or mpg123? |
| 00:30.30 | edibrac | well, i haven't read much of it yet.. |
| 00:30.41 | drmessano | Just the URL should be enough |
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| 00:37.13 | grandpapadot | Will madplay work with different moh classes and different play lists? |
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| 00:47.29 | talntid | when plugging into a rhino card, do i use a crossover cable, or a normal cat5? |
| 00:49.25 | jjshoe | when plugging what into a rhino card? |
| 00:49.35 | talntid | a voip gateway |
| 00:49.43 | jjshoe | what? |
| 00:50.12 | talntid | quintium voip gateway |
| 00:50.14 | jjshoe | your voip gateway has what kind of port on it that you're trying to plug into what kind of port on a rhino card? |
| 00:50.26 | talntid | they look like rj45 ports |
| 00:50.42 | jjshoe | so, what does the manual call it? |
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| 00:51.09 | talntid | i don't know. i'm blind |
| 00:51.23 | jjshoe | talntid do you find irc to be tough when you're blind? |
| 00:51.53 | talntid | nah, i'm not *actually* blind. just, my dog ate my glasses. |
| 00:52.13 | talntid | so i'm at 800x600 on a 24in monitor. :) |
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| 00:52.58 | jjshoe | ok, well when you get serious, let me know. |
| 00:53.10 | talntid | i am serious |
| 00:53.25 | talntid | i can't read the manual. |
| 00:53.33 | jjshoe | shucks, let me know when you can. |
| 00:53.41 | talntid | meh. ok. |
| 00:54.05 | talntid | you must think i'm kidding. heh |
| 00:54.16 | jjshoe | I don't really care honestly. |
| 00:54.24 | talntid | yeah, i wouldn't either. |
| 00:54.41 | talntid | you've got no obligation to help |
| 00:56.14 | jjshoe | you don't know anything about your equipment, and you want to plug a cable in. |
| 00:56.25 | jjshoe | What you should do is crimp one end of a power cord to an rt-45 cable and plug it in. |
| 00:56.33 | jjshoe | s/rt/rj/ |
| 00:56.46 | jblack | Hmm. I'm looking at the docs now. |
| 00:57.19 | jblack | It looks like it's an rj48, and it's 1 to 4, 2 to 5, both ends. |
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| 01:10.35 | jblack | No, I think it's 1+2 on a pair, 4+5 on a pair, straight through. |
| 01:10.41 | jblack | The docs are far from clear. |
| 01:14.47 | ManxPower | A T-1 crossover is not the same as an Ethernet crossover |
| 01:15.09 | jblack | Yeah. ethernet is 12 and 3+6 |
| 01:17.52 | ManxPower | I try to keep a crossover adapter for ethernet and for t-1 |
| 01:19.29 | jblack | I imagine there's good reason for the different pairings. |
| 01:21.48 | JT | talntid: my mind boggles at the setup you might have |
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| 01:22.04 | JT | Asterisk > T1 > Voip Gateway > SIP? |
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| 01:22.52 | jblack | He's confused by the marketspeak of the local provider. |
| 01:23.22 | jblack | It's a T1 coming in, destined to be dropped into the newly installed rhino card I've been bitching about all night |
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| 01:25.03 | jblack | More accurately, a PRI |
| 01:25.26 | JT | hmm |
| 01:27.03 | jblack | I'm trying to help him out, but as it's the first time I've done it myself, it's a case of the deaf leading the ...... blind |
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| 01:27.30 | jblack | Anyways, my apologies for the annoyance. I think I found enough documetnation to make educated guesses |
| 01:27.40 | JT | whether he requires a pri crossover cable or not depends on how it was terminated |
| 01:29.34 | jblack | Ok. |
| 01:30.03 | JT | otherwise an ethernet straight through cable is fine |
| 01:30.10 | jblack | hmm? |
| 01:30.28 | jblack | I'm sure has both types of ethernet cables laying around. |
| 01:31.05 | JT | you can't use an ethernet crossover cable |
| 01:32.24 | jblack | Ok, so it may be a straight ethernet, a straight pri, or a crossed over pri |
| 01:32.39 | jblack | depending upon telco preference, I suppose |
| 01:33.00 | JT | a straight ethernet is the same as a straight pri |
| 01:33.09 | JT | the pairs are matched fine |
| 01:33.40 | JT | crossover t1/pri/e1 is pin 1 to 4, 2 to 5 |
| 01:33.57 | jblack | hmm. It's been a while since I crimped ethernet, but I thought those used 12 36, and a pri uses 12 45 |
| 01:34.52 | jblack | Oh, I see your point, if one doesn't make sloppy straight throughs.. say only crimping the two pairs necessary. |
| 01:35.11 | jblack | Yeah, that makes sense |
| 01:35.19 | JT | lol who does that |
| 01:35.32 | jblack | nobody, of course. |
| 01:35.47 | JT | a straight through ethernet should be either TIA/EIA 568A to TIA/EIA 568A or TIA/EIA 568B to TIA/EIA 568B |
| 01:36.01 | JT | PoE won't work on a dodgily crimped cable either |
| 01:36.34 | jbeez | I like when people thing matching the colors on both ends is the right way to do it lol |
| 01:36.38 | jbeez | s/thing/think |
| 01:37.03 | jbeez | I had an argument on irc with some guy about how he was doing his cables wrong, and he kickbanned me permanently |
| 01:37.46 | jblack | Now, I'm claiming anything that one should do in a production environment.. or anything vaguely professional... |
| 01:38.30 | jblack | But I'm derating the hell out of cable in this house, because running new lines are a nightmare (the place is at least 105 years old0. |
| 01:39.24 | Morrocco | Hi, how do I enable ssh for the root user in linux? I can login with admin but not with root. |
| 01:39.26 | jblack | And I've been rather lucky. I can push through 100 megabits on 2 pairs, and 2 pots on the other 2 pairs. |
| 01:40.07 | jblack | That's just sheer luck, but sometimes, things work |
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| 01:40.58 | rift0r | any of you guys use vicidial |
| 01:41.05 | rift0r | with the astguiclient |
| 01:41.20 | rob0 | Morrocco: Wrong question, see su(1) and sudo(1)/sudoers(5)/visudo(8). Also, not the right place to be asking something like that. It should be in your distro's channel, because your distro might have set up non-defaults for sshd_config(5). |
| 01:41.23 | rift0r | nm, just read topic |
| 01:41.55 | jblack | and yeah. I know I deserve to be spanked for abusing cable so badly. |
| 01:42.48 | Morrocco | ok, thanks rob0 |
| 01:44.59 | rift0r | anyone in here use vicidial? |
| 01:45.23 | jblack | The alternative was to put holes in 100 year old plaster and fish in walls with 70 year old electrical cable. |
| 01:45.29 | jblack | Done after market |
| 01:48.14 | jblack | jt: btw, thanks for the tip (pun intended) |
| 01:48.42 | JT | np |
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| 02:14.23 | mwalling | is sipphone.com acting funny for anyone else? |
| 02:15.08 | mwalling | [May 7 02:14:21] NOTICE[23702]: chan_sip.c:15766 sip_poke_noanswer: Peer 'sipphone_mw' is now UNREACHABLE! Last qualify: 1526 |
| 02:15.11 | mwalling | [May 7 02:14:32] NOTICE[23702]: chan_sip.c:12599 handle_response_peerpoke: Peer 'sipphone_mw' is now Reachable. (556ms / 2000ms) |
| 02:15.16 | mwalling | etc, etc, etc |
| 02:15.25 | rob0 | yup here too |
| 02:15.47 | mwalling | rob0: well, i know that :P |
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| 02:17.22 | SexyKen | What does proxy authenticate mean? I'm getting the eror on incoming calls SIP/2.0 407 Proxy Authentication Required |
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| 02:29.51 | [TK]D-Fender | SexyKen, problem is that * expects auth, and your provider expects to pass the call un-authed. add "insecure=port,invite" to your peer. |
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| 02:36.06 | acxty | hey guys, how can I change my language to spanish? I have be looking all over for that but cannot find anything |
| 02:39.23 | JayTee52 | spanish text in linux and the console or spanish voice prompts? |
| 02:40.22 | rob0 | Too late, cinco de mayo is over. |
| 02:40.47 | JayTee52 | I had to give up mayo because of my cholesterol levels |
| 02:40.57 | acxty | spanish voice prompts |
| 02:41.01 | acxty | never mind |
| 02:41.05 | mwalling | merical whip taastes like ass |
| 02:41.08 | acxty | I got it ;) |
| 02:41.39 | JayTee52 | mwalling, I wouldn't know....never tasted ass but I imagine it's probably close. |
| 02:42.04 | mwalling | i thought it was mayo, slatheredd it all over an otherwise perfectly good sandwich |
| 02:42.45 | plik | nice bit of word asociation there |
| 02:43.56 | rob0 | We had the rsync-o de mayo yesterday in Slamd64. |
| 02:45.39 | plik | and 'may the fourth be with you' for the Star Wars fans the day before |
| 02:49.46 | acxty | I am using a php script with agi. I have fwrite(STDOUT,"STREAM FILE the_file \"\"\n"); but I cannot hear the sound at all |
| 02:50.25 | mwalling | do you have output buffering turned off? |
| 02:50.48 | acxty | mmm, don't know. I test with other command SAY NUMBER and it works fine |
| 02:51.32 | acxty | where can I verify if output buffering is off? |
| 02:51.48 | edibrac | i think php.ini controls that |
| 02:51.55 | edibrac | or you can control it at runtime |
| 02:52.18 | acxty | mmm, let me see |
| 02:57.05 | acxty | ob_get_level() return 0 |
| 02:57.20 | acxty | it is off |
| 03:00.24 | acxty | on CLI> I get Playing 'myfile' (escape_digits=) (sample_offset 0) |
| 03:02.45 | acxty | don't know why the file isn't play |
| 03:03.32 | adeel | what POE switches are recommended to use? |
| 03:03.56 | [TK]D-Fender | adeel, whichever will support your phone |
| 03:04.09 | adeel | [TK]D-Fender, polycom, aastra, snom primarily |
| 03:04.27 | adeel | i guess a better question is, which switch vendors should i stay away from |
| 03:04.31 | [TK]D-Fender | adeel, I'd been very happy with D-Link. Netgear for smaller use |
| 03:04.47 | acxty | supposely with that message the file is play |
| 03:04.51 | [TK]D-Fender | adeel, I'd probably be just as happy with any relatively well known brand. |
| 03:04.51 | acxty | return 0 |
| 03:05.10 | adeel | [TK]D-Fender, hmmm....i setup a Dlink-1225p switch, and for just straight switch stuff, it's good...but i could never get 802.1q vlans to work |
| 03:05.27 | adeel | [TK]D-Fender, nor do the documentation help |
| 03:05.29 | [TK]D-Fender | adeel, See now you're just being picky... |
| 03:06.38 | adeel | [TK]D-Fender, not entirely....voip is recommended to be run in a vlan to isolate any security problems...yet most of the switches i've come across 'geared' towards voip don't have that capability |
| 03:08.18 | JT | what sort of crappy switches are those? |
| 03:09.03 | adeel | JT, well, the d-link di-1225p for one |
| 03:09.14 | JT | mm, dodgy-link |
| 03:09.30 | adeel | i could only get port based vlans to work...but with voip it doesn't really do any benefit, unless i was to rewire the entire damn office |
| 03:09.45 | JT | haha |
| 03:10.09 | drmessano | dodgy-link |
| 03:10.11 | drmessano | HA!!! |
| 03:10.12 | JT | lack of working 802.1q from a managed switch is pretty much unforgiveable |
| 03:10.14 | drmessano | Im so gonna use that |
| 03:10.41 | drmessano | Shame that few people stateside will get "dodgy" |
| 03:10.46 | drmessano | But screw it |
| 03:10.54 | JT | heh |
| 03:11.06 | adeel | haha |
| 03:11.13 | adeel | sorry, it was des-1228p |
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| 03:11.24 | drmessano | dingo-link could work too.. as in "Dingo ate me VLAN" |
| 03:11.30 | drmessano | For the aussies, of course |
| 03:11.30 | JT | nice |
| 03:11.42 | JT | defective-link |
| 03:11.47 | drmessano | HA |
| 03:12.04 | drmessano | I had a friend years ago on BlueDingo internet service in Melbourne |
| 03:12.18 | drmessano | Everytime it would go down, we would joke that the Dingo ate her internet |
| 03:12.19 | drmessano | Good times |
| 03:12.29 | drmessano | Sorry, DingoBlue |
| 03:12.36 | JT | i don't really even remember dingoblue |
| 03:12.36 | adeel | for good measure, i think i'll contact d-link's tech support and give them a chance to redeem their brand |
| 03:12.41 | JT | it was free wasn't it? |
| 03:12.52 | drmessano | I could almost swear she paid for it |
| 03:13.10 | JT | i thought they displayed banner ads |
| 03:13.11 | drmessano | It was dialup, as I recall.. cheap dialup |
| 03:13.19 | JT | maybe there was a pay option |
| 03:13.40 | drmessano | Yeah.. She was paying something insanely cheap.. that may have been it.. she had the pay version |
| 03:13.51 | drmessano | But anyway |
| 03:13.54 | drmessano | back to bashing |
| 03:14.14 | drmessano | I find that D-Link and even Linksys brand managed switches are cheap excuses for managed switches |
| 03:14.41 | drmessano | It only takes 10 minutes with a Linksys to say "Man, this is SOOO not a Cisco" |
| 03:15.00 | JT | but have you ever seen the price of a cisco gigabit switch? |
| 03:15.01 | TrentCreek | but, it's Sysco |
| 03:15.03 | JT | insane |
| 03:15.26 | drmessano | yes |
| 03:15.29 | drmessano | Very insane |
| 03:15.40 | rob0 | Eh, Pancho!! |
| 03:15.57 | JT | i'd prefer to have a linksys managed gigabit switch, than not have a gigabit switch |
| 03:16.59 | C4colo | anyone here have any experience with the ss7 network integration with asterisk? |
| 03:17.13 | adeel | i fail to understand why d-link/linksys/netgear can't just make a product that actually does all that's advertised |
| 03:17.17 | drmessano | I would rather BUY a linksys, but USE a Cisco lol |
| 03:17.20 | JT | you need to buy something that integrates ss7 |
| 03:17.26 | C4colo | right |
| 03:17.29 | JT | heh |
| 03:17.46 | C4colo | there is a (i think) open-source project called ss7box |
| 03:17.53 | JT | i don't ever buy d-link and netgear products |
| 03:18.03 | C4colo | I agree with JT |
| 03:18.11 | C4colo | I rarely buy linksys anymore |
| 03:19.03 | C4colo | speaking of crap products, anyone have a suggestion for PoE switches? I was looking at the ZyXel ones |
| 03:19.09 | C4colo | are they any good? |
| 03:19.43 | adeel | C4colo, haha i just asked for recommendations on PoE switches |
| 03:19.55 | C4colo | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833181070 |
| 03:20.00 | C4colo | that's the one I'm looking at |
| 03:20.14 | C4colo | has 8 10/100 ports with PoE plus a gigabit port for uplink |
| 03:21.21 | adeel | C4colo, it doesn't specify on how many ports it provides PoE |
| 03:21.25 | C4colo | 8 |
| 03:21.31 | C4colo | I looked on the zyxel site |
| 03:21.45 | C4colo | the Gig-E port is not PoE |
| 03:21.53 | C4colo | but the rest are |
| 03:22.11 | adeel | ah okay, just i've almost gotten stuck with crappily worded marketing stuff |
| 03:22.14 | drmessano | But.. But |
| 03:22.19 | drmessano | I have Gig-E phones :( |
| 03:22.29 | adeel | drmessano, seriously? |
| 03:22.31 | C4colo | hahaha |
| 03:22.41 | drmessano | adeel: Stop drooling.. |
| 03:22.52 | adeel | drmessano, haha, just double checking |
| 03:23.01 | C4colo | yea, he has al 100 of them daisy-chained because he is a cheapskate |
| 03:23.04 | drmessano | adeel: Go recompile your G722 wideband codec |
| 03:23.13 | adeel | drmessano, that was a really weak insult |
| 03:23.16 | drmessano | lol |
| 03:23.17 | C4colo | spent an extra $400 per phone so he didn't have to run $80 worth of wire |
| 03:23.27 | adeel | hahah |
| 03:23.43 | drmessano | lol |
| 03:23.52 | C4colo | what makes that funny is that it is true most of the time |
| 03:24.01 | drmessano | Don't be a whore to marketing |
| 03:24.04 | C4colo | I can't tell you how many customers I have had to talk out of that type of thinking |
| 03:24.21 | adeel | drmessano, oh i'm not, i just wasn't planning on reading the full manual before buying the damned thing |
| 03:24.26 | drmessano | a Gig-E phone is useless |
| 03:24.30 | adeel | yeah i know |
| 03:24.33 | drmessano | Ok, good |
| 03:24.40 | adeel | gig-e uses all 8 of twisted pair |
| 03:24.52 | JT | 4 pairs :) |
| 03:24.57 | drmessano | because I know someone people that would sell a nut for a Gig-E phone if I presented them one |
| 03:24.58 | adeel | sorry, 8 pins |
| 03:25.01 | drmessano | For.. no reason |
| 03:25.05 | adeel | hahahah |
| 03:25.29 | adeel | sell a nut, huh? anyone here lost a nut to testicle cancer and in the market to replace? |
| 03:25.40 | drmessano | The same people who submit daily feature requests for G722 |
| 03:25.52 | adeel | haha |
| 03:25.53 | drmessano | "I need G722.. NOW.. FASTER" |
| 03:26.03 | drmessano | "Must.... Have Hi-Def... VoIP" |
| 03:26.03 | adeel | i actually read an article on why g722 is utterly pointless |
| 03:26.15 | TrentCreek | No//I need it yesterday |
| 03:26.15 | adeel | didn't really need an article to point that out |
| 03:26.33 | adeel | but it's nice at times to have your thoughts validated |
| 03:26.37 | drmessano | G722 (YAY) ----> PSTN (Uhhhh) ------> G722 (Huh?) |
| 03:27.01 | adeel | it's like 'clean coal'....people believe what they want to |
| 03:27.05 | drmessano | I want a 3MHZ wide audio codec |
| 03:27.25 | drmessano | I want to hear an ant fart over VoIP |
| 03:27.45 | adeel | but i don't want to use more than 8 kbit/s for bandwidth |
| 03:27.57 | JT | tell a pointy haired boss that G.722 is pointless when they whine that this newfangled voip doesn't sound near as good as skype |
| 03:28.13 | drmessano | AT&T has the "So clear, you can hear a pin drop".. Asterisk needs to be able to transport an ant fart over 10000 miles via VoIP |
| 03:28.46 | adeel | JT, but that's because skype calls normally don't terminate over PSTN |
| 03:28.59 | drmessano | JT: Then explain to him why he just spent $300 on those G729 licenses? |
| 03:29.36 | JT | drmessano: well g.722 is good for intra organisation stuff |
| 03:29.52 | JT | g.729 is good for being stingey with Internet bandwidth |
| 03:30.29 | drmessano | I know.. point was.. If he's gonna complain, better not sell him on using G729 to save b/w |
| 03:30.45 | drmessano | make him buy more pipe and use G711 |
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| 03:30.48 | C4colo | yea |
| 03:33.38 | adeel | drmessano, well even then, he'd have to dedicate that pipe specifically for voip otherwise he'll still have 'intermittent' voice distortion |
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| 03:34.32 | JT | not if QoS is used |
| 03:35.00 | adeel | JT, i've implemented QoS and STILL don't get 100% voice quality |
| 03:35.29 | drmessano | Thats your internet then |
| 03:35.38 | adeel | on a T1? |
| 03:35.47 | drmessano | You QoS up to the router and solve the "dedicated bandwidth" problem |
| 03:36.03 | drmessano | But once it goes to the outside.. it's anyones game |
| 03:36.12 | adeel | yeah, that much i'm aware |
| 03:36.14 | drmessano | There's nothing special about a T1 |
| 03:36.24 | drmessano | Unless it's 1998 again |
| 03:36.42 | adeel | drmessano, gaurenteed bandwidth, versus DSL/cable which is truely best effort |
| 03:37.06 | drmessano | Guaranteed bandwidth, not guaranteed transport of packets from source to destination |
| 03:37.18 | adeel | my network setup is fairly simple....computer --> polycom --> d-link 1228p switch --> router --> t1 |
| 03:37.20 | JayTee52 | wonders how sensitive a microphone would be to pickup an ant fart |
| 03:37.35 | adeel | QoS is done on the router |
| 03:37.40 | adeel | JayTee52, pretty damn sensitive |
| 03:38.05 | JT | you can guarantee bandwidth over dsl too |
| 03:38.10 | drmessano | DSL, Cable, or a T1 have about the same chance of making a quality voice call over the internet |
| 03:38.38 | drmessano | Which is anywhere from 0% to 100%... give or take 5% |
| 03:38.41 | JT | cable is almost always contended |
| 03:38.47 | JT | both T1 and dsl can be uncontended |
| 03:38.51 | sbingner | cable is best effort, dsl is guranteed bandwidth as much as T1 is |
| 03:38.57 | JT | sbingner: indeed |
| 03:39.05 | adeel | well it depends upon the DSL service you have |
| 03:39.08 | JayTee52 | voip within an organization with sufficient network bandwidth is one thing, using the internet for calls is still a crap shoot and the quality is going to be less than ideal. |
| 03:39.14 | drmessano | Since when is the amount of guaranteed bandwidth the problem? lol |
| 03:39.16 | sbingner | DSL by NATURE is point-to-point to your ISP |
| 03:39.20 | JT | here's a news flash to some: almost all T1 services these days are delivered over DSL |
| 03:40.07 | drmessano | A T1 to my carrier ---> ???????????? <--- other end of the call.. |
| 03:40.16 | sbingner | nods |
| 03:40.24 | drmessano | thats why I said |
| 03:40.36 | drmessano | DSL, T1, Cable.. Same roulette |
| 03:40.37 | JayTee52 | mine are delivered over a OC3 and dropped at the fiber mux |
| 03:41.12 | drmessano | An OC45 is great if your ITSP is using 256k DSL for your call |
| 03:41.26 | adeel | hehe |
| 03:41.29 | sbingner | lol |
| 03:41.33 | drmessano | or if they're 115 miles down a copper pair from the central office |
| 03:41.44 | JT | my E1s are delivered over raw 2 pair |
| 03:41.47 | JayTee52 | I've just got two T1's for PRI so my outbound/inbound is still just 64kbps per channel |
| 03:41.53 | JayTee52 | clear enough though. |
| 03:41.53 | JT | but they only run down 2 floors to the telco's mux |
| 03:42.05 | JT | which uses SDH |
| 03:42.35 | drmessano | Really.. The amount of bandwidth you pay for just increases the size of your funnel.. you're still catching that same erratic stream of water.. you can just catch more of it |
| 03:43.43 | adeel | drmessano, i agree |
| 03:44.55 | JayTee52 | even if I setup * at work to handle NAT and tried to route calls to an * box here at home I doubt I'd have much luck. My ISP is Comcast and my ISP/Telco at work is Time Warner |
| 03:45.47 | C4colo | most T1s are HDSL now anyway |
| 03:46.11 | C4colo | since it doesn't require the amplifiers every 6000m |
| 03:46.23 | drmessano | I make a lot high quality calls over Comcast |
| 03:46.37 | drmessano | Actually, Comcast seems to work better than DSL here... |
| 03:47.00 | C4colo | comcast works better/worse than DSL depending on the rest of the loop |
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| 03:47.14 | C4colo | in the high-population-density areas of Denver DSL is better |
| 03:47.37 | C4colo | in the more rural, suburban areas Comcast has better speeds and is less congested |
| 03:47.43 | C4colo | although DSL is at least consistant |
| 03:47.50 | drmessano | They had some VERY bad latency issues for a while.. but they seem to have worked them out.. right around the time those IP addressible digital TV boxes got popular |
| 03:47.58 | C4colo | hah |
| 03:48.06 | C4colo | interesting |
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| 03:48.27 | C4colo | so they weren't degrading the quality of the competitiors, they just had no incentive to improve the quality |
| 03:48.33 | drmessano | Comcast Digital TV and their Digital Voice fixed the internet service |
| 03:48.49 | drmessano | Now that they have a good reason for the internet not to suck |
| 03:48.50 | C4colo | there was a big thing about comcast degrading competing VoIP providers |
| 03:49.03 | drmessano | yeah.. I haven't seen that |
| 03:49.05 | drmessano | I mean |
| 03:49.07 | drmessano | Experiencec |
| 03:49.08 | drmessano | Experienced |
| 03:49.16 | C4colo | I'm going to talk to my boss about getting a DS3 at home |
| 03:49.42 | drmessano | The PAP2 at my Mother in Laws house on my Asterisk box sounds better than her Comcast digital voice though |
| 03:49.47 | drmessano | So mark 1 for * |
| 03:50.29 | drmessano | I think they're using G.UH.WUT for their codec |
| 03:51.23 | C4colo | lol |
| 03:52.37 | C4colo | "(for instance, your laptop probably has a T1 jack in its side..." |
| 03:52.48 | C4colo | MY LAPTOP DOESN"T HAVE A T1 JACK! |
| 03:52.53 | drmessano | R O F L |
| 03:52.57 | C4colo | where do I get one of these? |
| 03:53.09 | drmessano | Just use a crossover cable |
| 03:53.28 | drmessano | 1 to 2, 3 to 6, 4 to 8, 7 to 9 |
| 03:53.35 | C4colo | actually, if my laptop came with a 1.5Mbps port instead of a 10/100 Ethernet port I'd complain |
| 03:53.55 | C4colo | although if it had both... |
| 03:53.57 | C4colo | hmm |
| 03:54.04 | C4colo | no, there is no reason to put a T1 port on a laptop |
| 03:54.43 | drmessano | I remember Bill Gates displaying a PCI card with an F connector on it when they first started talking about cable modems in the US |
| 03:54.48 | C4colo | I do however want a 43Mbps synchronous internet connection |
| 03:54.48 | drmessano | I never did see a PCI cable modem |
| 03:54.58 | C4colo | nor did I |
| 03:55.15 | C4colo | I have a G.DMT and G.Lite compatible DSL card |
| 03:55.25 | drmessano | I suppose it could have been a mockup |
| 03:55.36 | C4colo | I"ll bet you $20 it was |
| 03:56.01 | drmessano | http://idealusa.stores.yahoo.net/50010200.html <---- or not |
| 03:56.13 | C4colo | some idiot misunderstood the cable modem specifications/requirements and said "well it will probably be a pci card, let's make one that looks like a cable modem" |
| 03:56.22 | C4colo | what? |
| 03:56.30 | C4colo | zoom made it? |
| 03:56.39 | C4colo | I thought zoom only made DSL hardware |
| 03:56.49 | C4colo | that's probably a mock-up too |
| 03:57.04 | C4colo | the whole site is probably a disinformation site |
| 03:57.10 | C4colo | made by microsoft to cover their error |
| 03:57.16 | drmessano | LOL |
| 03:57.45 | C4colo | nevermind, they would just pay bloggers to do their dirty work |
| 03:57.56 | drmessano | I wonder if all the mail I had in my @home account is out there somewhere.. theres a joke I was looking for... |
| 03:58.20 | C4colo | heh, yea, I had @home once |
| 03:58.23 | C4colo | years ago |
| 03:58.28 | C4colo | then attbi, then comcast |
| 03:58.38 | C4colo | then I dumped them and went back to Qworst |
| 03:59.03 | drmessano | You can't hide.. ATT is buying everyone and making them suck |
| 03:59.04 | C4colo | and now I'm dumping them for a CLEC |
| 03:59.15 | drmessano | Good ole Southwestern Bell.. who knew |
| 03:59.15 | C4colo | att is odd |
| 03:59.29 | C4colo | American Telegraph and Telphone |
| 03:59.32 | C4colo | or Telephone and Telegraph |
| 03:59.38 | JT | you can get miniPCI T1 cards i think |
| 03:59.51 | drmessano | Always Throw Tantrums? |
| 03:59.56 | drmessano | Always Throwing Tantrums? |
| 04:00.12 | drmessano | Average T1 Termination |
| 04:00.36 | drmessano | Any Thunderstorm Threatens |
| 04:01.01 | C4colo | anyway, yea, ATT bough Cingular out here and changed the name to "Cingular, the New AT&T" and out east they changed their name to "AT&T, the new Cingular" |
| 04:01.19 | C4colo | I think it was a gimic to make people think something had changed |
| 04:01.37 | C4colo | everyone was fed up with AT&T's crap out here and back east they were fed up with Cingular |
| 04:01.38 | drmessano | I think it's funny how they split ATT up and one of the baby bells ended up gobbling the rest up |
| 04:01.47 | C4colo | so the merger made it possible to fool everyone at the same time |
| 04:01.55 | C4colo | yea |
| 04:02.01 | adeel | SBC had a good leader |
| 04:02.08 | adeel | very aggressive |
| 04:02.42 | C4colo | I think it is funny that in 1994 two racks in a CLEC colocation datacenter in Qwest's facilities cost $60,000 for setup and now that the regulations are relaxing it costs $250,000 for one rack |
| 04:02.45 | drmessano | Southern Bell was too busy waiting for the next war of northern aggression.. too bad they didn't look to the west |
| 04:03.35 | adeel | what do you mean ' to the west' ? |
| 04:03.44 | drmessano | Southwestern Bell |
| 04:03.50 | C4colo | they completely ignored the USA ? |
| 04:03.58 | C4colo | focused on the far east? |
| 04:04.10 | C4colo | then were bought out by Singtel? |
| 04:04.16 | adeel | doesn't SBC/Ameritech own ATT? |
| 04:04.19 | drmessano | Southern Bell was basically "Southeastern Bell" |
| 04:04.30 | adeel | ohhh, okay, we're talking about the same |
| 04:04.38 | JT | C4colo: a quarter of a million dollars for 1 rack?! |
| 04:04.40 | drmessano | Southwestern Bell, AKA SBC, _IS_ ATT now |
| 04:04.42 | C4colo | yes |
| 04:04.48 | JT | once off? |
| 04:04.52 | C4colo | that's for the setup only |
| 04:04.57 | C4colo | you don't want to know the monthly rate |
| 04:05.00 | C4colo | lol |
| 04:05.00 | drmessano | SBC bought ATT and took the name |
| 04:05.01 | JT | that's crazy |
| 04:05.04 | JT | i do actually |
| 04:05.10 | adeel | drmessano, yeah i recall |
| 04:05.17 | C4colo | I could find out what the monthly is |
| 04:05.42 | C4colo | well, the CLEC I'm working for has been in there since 94 or 96 |
| 04:05.50 | drmessano | SBC owns everything but the former Nynex and New Jersey Bell |
| 04:05.55 | drmessano | Which is now Verizon |
| 04:06.00 | C4colo | so their rate is lower than it would be if you called up Qwest and said "I'm a CLEC, Gimme a rack!" |
| 04:06.06 | drmessano | or maybe its Atlantic Bell |
| 04:06.22 | drmessano | I dunno.. But they own all but one region |
| 04:06.38 | adeel | C4colo, with Qwests prices so high, why bother setting up there? |
| 04:06.43 | C4colo | well |
| 04:06.46 | C4colo | SS7 mainly |
| 04:06.58 | C4colo | real DID termination |
| 04:07.09 | C4colo | they can tell Qwest "we need 1000 more DIDs" |
| 04:07.19 | adeel | well, if you're doing that much volume to justify SS7, why not just get on ss7 yourself? |
| 04:07.27 | C4colo | and qwest can point them to their SS7 gateway address and then they can assign them however they want |
| 04:07.42 | C4colo | because Qwest is the ILEC out here |
| 04:07.50 | C4colo | they OWN the phone infastructure |
| 04:07.59 | adeel | C4colo, where are you located? |
| 04:08.03 | C4colo | Colorado |
| 04:08.06 | adeel | ahh |
| 04:08.13 | adeel | it's a bit different out in California |
| 04:08.28 | adeel | actually, i don't know who the ILEC is out ehre |
| 04:08.43 | C4colo | yea, the thing is they can turn around and sell SS7 interconnectivitiy to other CLECs if they wanted to |
| 04:08.47 | TrentCreek | who uses Fedora? |
| 04:08.53 | C4colo | since they are already in the downtown CO for Qwest |
| 04:09.34 | C4colo | and they have a datacenter right across the street with a fiber running to their SS7 gateway and media gateways inside Qwest's datacenter |
| 04:10.14 | TrentCreek | well, then who uses Rapidvox? |
| 04:10.29 | C4colo | I was looking at becoming a CLEC at one point ... the $250,000 price tag is what made me think again |
| 04:11.03 | C4colo | not including that again for hardware and installation costs |
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| 04:11.09 | adeel | C4colo, why bother becoming an official CLEC until you have the volume to justify the cost? |
| 04:11.09 | JT | and $250k doesn't even buy you a clec |
| 04:11.29 | adeel | i know a guy in Florida who setup as a CLEC for less than 80K i believe |
| 04:11.41 | C4colo | different states are different |
| 04:11.52 | adeel | i wonder why it's so high in CO |
| 04:12.02 | C4colo | because Qwest is evil |
| 04:12.07 | adeel | i've setup a queue, but how do i join it again? |
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| 04:12.19 | C4colo | well, I'm talking about a facilities-based CLEC |
| 04:12.31 | C4colo | a reseller only CLEC is different |
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| 04:13.04 | C4colo | with facilities-based you get to run pipe anywhere on the right-of-way you want ... you can connect into any of the ILEC's infastructure you want |
| 04:14.00 | C4colo | if there is an area you want to provide DSL and T1s to you just get out your boaring rig and start running pipe down the street from a box you can get a DS3 to over to the neighborhood you want to provide service to |
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| 04:14.27 | C4colo | of coures you have to pull permits and handle traffic direction and all that |
| 04:14.32 | C4colo | but that's what it buys you |
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| 04:15.05 | C4colo | a reseller can only resell the service of the ILEC for 10-20% discount |
| 04:15.11 | C4colo | which makes it hard to be competitive |
| 04:17.29 | adeel | interesting |
| 04:18.17 | C4colo | I have learned more about CLECs working for one for a month than I have in 6 months of research looking to become a CLEC I did a year ago |
| 04:18.19 | drmessano | CLEC's also have the right to cut power and water to large sections of neighborhoods |
| 04:18.25 | C4colo | haha |
| 04:18.30 | C4colo | and then pay to restore it |
| 04:18.40 | drmessano | When Knology came to down |
| 04:18.48 | drmessano | The contractors they hired...... |
| 04:18.49 | drmessano | God damn |
| 04:18.53 | drmessano | I mean "Gosh darn" |
| 04:18.57 | C4colo | heh |
| 04:19.05 | C4colo | yea, these guys have their own boaring rig |
| 04:19.09 | drmessano | "Mom, lights are out" |
| 04:19.12 | C4colo | they hit a water main once |
| 04:19.16 | drmessano | "Back on" |
| 04:19.20 | drmessano | nice |
| 04:19.26 | adeel | haha that sucks |
| 04:19.34 | adeel | i think i'd abuse that kind of power |
| 04:19.34 | C4colo | they had it all marked but they didn't mark the valves coming off the main |
| 04:20.05 | drmessano | The sad thing is |
| 04:20.10 | C4colo | so they were going along and all of a sudden water started spraying back out of the hole and up every corner crack of the side walk, the asphalt was waving like the ocean |
| 04:20.21 | C4colo | lol |
| 04:20.40 | C4colo | he said the sidewalk looked like a fountian, ever 4 feet a little spray about 5 feet in the air |
| 04:20.46 | drmessano | When I moved out of my parents house years ago and in with my ex-wife, I was determined to stick with Bellsouth DSL... |
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| 04:21.00 | drmessano | and I had the worst service over there... ever.. Noisy lines.. They wouldnt fix it |
| 04:21.22 | drmessano | So I ended up with Knology.. and the service was awesome |
| 04:21.27 | drmessano | Customer service sucked.. |
| 04:21.39 | drmessano | But the service was good |
| 04:21.49 | C4colo | if you ever move do Denver let me know, these guys are rock-solid |
| 04:21.52 | C4colo | to |
| 04:21.57 | drmessano | After all that crap.. they managed to build a decent network |
| 04:22.24 | drmessano | You could always sell me some cheap ass termination |
| 04:22.32 | drmessano | lol |
| 04:22.34 | C4colo | I'm working on a deal with them to be a reseller |
| 04:22.49 | rob0 | I've heard that Knology blocks inbound SMTP. That would be a show-stopper for me. |
| 04:22.59 | drmessano | They do now |
| 04:23.05 | drmessano | But I got around it |
| 04:23.06 | C4colo | I can get you unlimited termination to the 303 and 720 area codes for $25/channel/month |
| 04:23.38 | adeel | wow, that's kind of pricy |
| 04:23.47 | C4colo | unlimited = no limits |
| 04:23.56 | drmessano | SMTP-IN at parents house >> VPN >> SMTP-OUT here |
| 04:23.57 | C4colo | not the "softcap" bull others are selling |
| 04:24.03 | adeel | C4colo, incoming right? |
| 04:24.21 | C4colo | well, that too |
| 04:24.30 | drmessano | I managed to run a mail |
| 04:24.35 | adeel | C4colo, i get unlimited termination anywhere in CA for about $10/channel/month |
| 04:24.53 | C4colo | well that's just special |
| 04:25.10 | drmessano | I managed to run a mail "server" with SMTP-IN on one ISP at one location, SMTP-OUT at another location, the mailbox server at a 3rd location, and a backup inbound SMTP at yet another |
| 04:25.13 | drmessano | It was fun |
| 04:25.34 | sbingner | was there some rhyme to that reason? |
| 04:25.35 | adeel | that sounds like a very convoluted setup |
| 04:25.36 | C4colo | actually I'm talking to them about setting up a peering arrangement between CLECs in different states to set up a nation-wide termination agreement over VoIP |
| 04:26.12 | rob0 | Dr, yes, I have more than one MX host, but I like to get some MX inbound on my home cable (Comcast, that's still possible.) |
| 04:26.40 | C4colo | I outsourced my mail to godaddy |
| 04:26.59 | C4colo | my mail server traffic was 99% spam by the end |
| 04:27.13 | drmessano | I was on Knology who didnt allow SMTP IN, my parent had Bellsouth which allowed SMTPIN, but not out, I had SMTPOUT working for a while until they forced me to use their SMTP, so I put another box on a Comcast line that allowed SMTPOUT.. and then a backup at a friends house who had DSL in case my parents lost power |
| 04:27.14 | C4colo | about 60% of the connections failed because I have relaying disabled |
| 04:27.49 | C4colo | and most of the rest were spam |
| 04:28.06 | C4colo | so I said to hell with it, I'll let godaddy.com pay for the spam bandwidth and failed connections |
| 04:28.18 | rob0 | probably over 90% of all SMTP traffic is indeed spam |
| 04:28.33 | C4colo | I think that value is a bit outdated |
| 04:28.35 | C4colo | lol |
| 04:28.58 | drmessano | E-mail has become too unreliable |
| 04:29.00 | rob0 | over 90%? It varies per site. |
| 04:29.01 | C4colo | any day now we will break the 100% spam boundary |
| 04:29.23 | C4colo | today it was reported that 110% of all email traffic is spam |
| 04:29.25 | drmessano | Spam and Spam filtering have made E-mail an effin mess |
| 04:29.51 | C4colo | questions as to the accuracy of the results were raised but the email messages bounced with a "503 Server Busy" message |
| 04:30.50 | drmessano | What kind of world do we live in where I cant even buy male enhancement products over the internet for fear of some spam filter intercepting my order |
| 04:30.55 | drmessano | Damn having to "phone it in" |
| 04:31.02 | rob0 | haha |
| 04:31.03 | C4colo | heh |
| 04:31.34 | C4colo | you are spelling it wrong, it's va1gra and mal3 3nhanc3m3nts |
| 04:31.45 | drmessano | Pretty soon we'll have Spam filtering on VoIP |
| 04:31.57 | C4colo | that's called "blacklist" |
| 04:31.57 | drmessano | "yes, I want to buy some viagra...." *CLICK* |
| 04:32.05 | C4colo | lol |
| 04:33.07 | drmessano | You know you're hard up when all your viagra ads gets filtered.. and some telemarketer calls to sell you viagra and you're all like "OMG, THANK GOODNESS YOU CALLED!!" |
| 04:33.21 | C4colo | haha |
| 04:33.37 | C4colo | you really have a thing for the male enhancements don't you drmessano? |
| 04:33.49 | C4colo | almost as if you speak from experience |
| 04:33.53 | C4colo | ¬¬ |
| 04:34.08 | drmessano | I like to be able to tap my wife on the shoulder when shes snorting, without having to move my arms |
| 04:34.23 | C4colo | haha |
| 04:34.37 | C4colo | they are dropping like flies |
| 04:34.46 | C4colo | you are going to run off half the channel with this talk |
| 04:35.22 | drmessano | SIP/vi@gratalk.com |
| 04:35.34 | C4colo | ack |
| 04:35.38 | C4colo | I'm not calling that |
| 04:35.41 | C4colo | lol |
| 04:35.45 | drmessano | lol |
| 04:35.51 | rob0 | [n=rob0@tuxaloosa.org] has quit ["Can't take it"] |
| 04:35.56 | drmessano | HAH |
| 04:36.35 | adeel | hahah |
| 04:36.44 | drmessano | The nice thing about doing tech support for a church |
| 04:37.07 | C4colo | 0.o |
| 04:37.23 | drmessano | you can do NO WRONG by spam filtering the word "Penis"... at the very least, you'll save them from a ton of spam.. you may even save a priest his job |
| 04:37.35 | C4colo | hahaha |
| 04:37.36 | mog | heh |
| 04:37.37 | C4colo | oh no |
| 04:38.27 | C4colo | I was wondering where you were going with that |
| 04:38.37 | drmessano | lol |
| 04:39.17 | drmessano | We do a lot of tech support for churches.. it makes you blush when they call in to have you remove that sort of Spam from their outlook |
| 04:39.36 | drmessano | Almost like mom finding your porn collection |
| 04:39.42 | C4colo | haha |
| 04:40.03 | drmessano | I feel really bad.. especially the really devout folks |
| 04:40.11 | drmessano | I can just imagine |
| 04:40.20 | drmessano | "Oh, good heavens" |
| 04:40.26 | C4colo | lol |
| 04:40.42 | drmessano | E-mail is on the way out, I think |
| 04:40.58 | C4colo | tell them to stop forwarding every damn email they get to everyone in their inbox |
| 04:41.05 | drmessano | lol |
| 04:41.10 | C4colo | and set the priority 0 mx record to a null address |
| 04:41.24 | C4colo | that little trick killed about 90% of the spam I get |
| 04:41.49 | drmessano | Because it the spammers dont follow priority? |
| 04:41.55 | drmessano | -it |
| 04:42.09 | C4colo | the RFC for SMTP specifies that a sending SMTP server must attempt a connection to at least one lower priority MX record if the first times out |
| 04:42.25 | C4colo | however, spammers, sending millions of messages a day, don't have time to sit around and wait for the first MX record to time out |
| 04:42.39 | drmessano | Thats effin brilliant |
| 04:42.42 | C4colo | so after a few seconds they assume your mail server is down or you don't have mail or whatever |
| 04:43.03 | C4colo | "real" (by that I mean properly-configured) SMTP servers will follow the RFC guidelines |
| 04:43.14 | drmessano | It makes complete and total sense |
| 04:43.44 | adeel | wow, that's pretty clever |
| 04:43.46 | drmessano | Still have to deal with the backscatter stuff |
| 04:43.48 | C4colo | I read that somewhere, tested it out for a few weeks and I was amazed how much of a differnce it made |
| 04:43.53 | C4colo | my spam is almost completly gone |
| 04:44.03 | C4colo | a few specific servers still get through and I can block their IP |
| 04:44.17 | C4colo | smaller spam shops, teemix is one |
| 04:44.23 | drmessano | Do NDRs get a header for being an NDR? |
| 04:44.44 | drmessano | I need to check |
| 04:44.52 | C4colo | I just point it to my network address |
| 04:44.56 | drmessano | IF you block all NDR's, that handled the backscatter |
| 04:45.04 | drmessano | handles |
| 04:45.27 | drmessano | If an NDR is generated by your SMTP server thats one thing |
| 04:45.43 | drmessano | But allowing a remote server to send an NDR is pointless |
| 04:45.48 | drmessano | and could cut the spam |
| 04:46.19 | C4colo | I think they ignore them |
| 04:46.40 | drmessano | I know we've dealt with a lot of remote NDR backscatter spam messages |
| 04:46.52 | drmessano | But I think Exchange can be told to ignore NDRs |
| 04:47.01 | C4colo | I have had a hotmail account since 1998 that has been inactive for multiple years on end, and if I log in I'll get spam within minutes |
| 04:47.30 | drmessano | Im checking my server now |
| 04:48.10 | C4colo | I use it about once or twice in a while when I need to give out an address that I KNOW will be bent/folded/spindled/mutilated and then sold to everyone willing to pay a nickle for it |
| 04:49.02 | C4colo | plus they use other people's addresses to send from |
| 04:49.06 | C4colo | so they don't get the bounces anyway |
| 04:50.41 | C4colo | I know this because about twice a year I get bombarded by hundreds of bounce replys in my inbox |
| 04:51.49 | drmessano | Yeah.. Last month was BAD |
| 04:52.13 | drmessano | They gave up on backscatter for a while |
| 04:52.23 | drmessano | and for some reason cranked it up last month |
| 04:52.27 | drmessano | We saw thousands |
| 04:52.49 | C4colo | the CLEC said they had quite a few of their customers hit last month |
| 04:52.56 | C4colo | none of my domains got hit though |
| 04:53.01 | C4colo | ... for once |
| 04:53.23 | drmessano | I think remote NDRs should be illegal anyway |
| 04:53.27 | C4colo | I can't say that though, I think I got about 15 or 20 messages, that's light enough that I don't even notice though |
| 04:53.35 | C4colo | I think email should be deprecated |
| 04:53.38 | drmessano | Only YOUR smtp server should generate an NDR |
| 04:53.42 | C4colo | way too trusting of a system |
| 04:54.19 | C4colo | WAY too trusting |
| 04:54.22 | drmessano | Yep |
| 04:54.39 | C4colo | I mean c'mon, I can send an email from your email address and no server between here or there will look at it twice? |
| 04:55.08 | C4colo | I can send out emails from "service@paypal.com" or "customerservice@suntrustbank.com" |
| 04:55.17 | C4colo | or whatever the hell I want |
| 04:55.19 | C4colo | that is just odd to me |
| 04:55.49 | drmessano | No one wants to fix the problem because everyone is exploiting it lol |
| 04:55.54 | C4colo | hah, yea |
| 04:55.59 | jackson__ | you guys don't check spf? |
| 04:56.20 | C4colo | nah, that's a shoddy hack |
| 04:56.30 | jackson__ | I dissagree |
| 04:56.38 | C4colo | I vocally berate SMTP while using all the same |
| 04:56.53 | C4colo | I'm one of those complainers who doesn't do anything about it |
| 04:56.57 | C4colo | lol |
| 04:57.09 | C4colo | ok, not a shoddy hack, that was harsh |
| 04:57.28 | C4colo | it is pointless unless implemented and required 100% |
| 04:58.03 | jackson__ | my logs show that it catches quite a lot. |
| 04:58.08 | C4colo | it is like bailing water out of a cruise ship using a shotglass when there is a hole the size of an iceberg in the side of it |
| 04:59.40 | C4colo | the entire concept of email needs to be re-thunk |
| 04:59.46 | jackson__ | so you're saying you don't specify spf records that are authorative for your domains? |
| 04:59.57 | C4colo | actually no |
| 05:00.11 | jackson__ | then why should I accept your mail if you don't take the effort? |
| 05:00.26 | C4colo | because there are millions like me out there that haven't taken the effor either |
| 05:00.33 | C4colo | and to block all of them is to limit your ability to use email |
| 05:00.39 | jackson__ | then they aren't worth accepting mail from. |
| 05:00.41 | C4colo | which is a good thing in my book |
| 05:01.03 | outtolunc | he looks rather cute with no nose <G> |
| 05:01.03 | drmessano | I added spf records just in case some a***** decides to filter spf out of the blue |
| 05:01.12 | jackson__ | spf has been around for a while and it's pretty easy to impliment. |
| 05:01.15 | drmessano | But I dont expect it to take any real life of its own |
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| 05:01.43 | C4colo | I'll implement spf when I implement IPv6 |
| 05:01.58 | drmessano | But then again.. I said that about SRV records years ago |
| 05:02.03 | jackson__ | heh, you're talking a simple dns txt resource record man. |
| 05:02.10 | C4colo | yea |
| 05:02.14 | C4colo | I know |
| 05:02.31 | C4colo | like I said, I looked into it at one point |
| 05:02.35 | C4colo | I know what it would take |
| 05:02.45 | C4colo | but doing so just prolongs the death of SMTP |
| 05:02.48 | jackson__ | for my buisness (small software dev house), I don't have any problem filtering via spf. |
| 05:03.23 | C4colo | for every SMTP workaround we accept, we put off the final death of SMTP by another year or two |
| 05:04.18 | C4colo | spf records are nice, I will say they are useful, and the day I can't send email without spf will be the day I agree that spf has suceeded |
| 05:04.37 | C4colo | but, how will I know when that day has come if I implement spf now? |
| 05:05.05 | drmessano | Right now, SPF gives you a lower spam score |
| 05:05.06 | jackson__ | I'm certainly not saying that it's the only measure that needs to be taken, but I do thing it's worth while to impliment spf records for your own domains. |
| 05:05.13 | drmessano | But its not exclusive yet |
| 05:05.29 | C4colo | then if I was spamming I would be interested in adding spf |
| 05:05.45 | drmessano | ..or if your domain was having a problem sending mail otherwise |
| 05:05.53 | jackson__ | that won't help you spoofing though :) |
| 05:05.57 | drmessano | lol |
| 05:06.07 | C4colo | when doesn't anyone's domain have problems sending email? |
| 05:06.24 | jackson__ | the entire point of spf is to prevent spoofing. |
| 05:06.26 | drmessano | I noticed I get more mail through to hotmail and Yahoo with an spf record |
| 05:06.28 | C4colo | email is the message-in-a-bottle of the modern age |
| 05:06.34 | C4colo | "send it out there and hope they get it" |
| 05:06.51 | drmessano | Its seems to lower the spam score somewhat |
| 05:06.54 | drmessano | Which isnt bad |
| 05:07.05 | C4colo | yea, but then all spammers will implement them and then where are we? |
| 05:07.10 | C4colo | back where we started? |
| 05:07.25 | C4colo | well, no, but you get my point |
| 05:07.43 | jackson__ | how can a sapmmer who's spoofing with FROMS of bill@microsoft.com going to add and spf record to the microsoft.com's authorative name servers listing that spamming email server? |
| 05:08.08 | C4colo | they would have to set up their own domains of course |
| 05:09.03 | C4colo | like micresoft.com |
| 05:09.13 | jackson__ | microsofty.com is my fav :) |
| 05:09.25 | C4colo | isn't that a porn site? |
| 05:09.33 | drmessano | MlCROSOFT.COM |
| 05:09.38 | jackson__ | dunno, but it souunds good rolling off the tounge. |
| 05:09.55 | C4colo | wow this water is giving me a microsofty |
| 05:10.17 | drmessano | DOGPlLE.COM |
| 05:10.35 | drmessano | Those work |
| 05:10.39 | drmessano | Probably taken |
| 05:10.47 | C4colo | "the neighbor's dog just left a dogpile on our lawn again!" |
| 05:11.10 | drmessano | You could spoof a Yahoo address.. Yahoo would probably let you.. Since.. no one else is using Yahoo |
| 05:11.19 | C4colo | hahah |
| 05:11.57 | drmessano | I bet I could colo my blog in a Yahoo datacenter and double their powerbill.. and trust me, I am not bragging.. |
| 05:12.19 | C4colo | lol |
| 05:12.23 | C4colo | you get about 5 hits a month? |
| 05:12.25 | drmessano | "OMG, 14 hits today!" |
| 05:12.29 | C4colo | haha |
| 05:13.05 | jackson__ | try adding more jpgs to increase the hit count. |
| 05:13.22 | drmessano | colo it with the money section of the yahoo site and I could exponentially increase the hits |
| 05:13.33 | drmessano | Go from 1 a day to 9 |
| 05:13.43 | C4colo | that's not exponential over two samples |
| 05:13.50 | drmessano | lol |
| 05:13.52 | C4colo | that's just 9-fold |
| 05:14.01 | drmessano | I wasnt being literal |
| 05:14.26 | C4colo | 1, 9, 81 ... that would be exponential |
| 05:14.28 | C4colo | yea |
| 05:14.40 | C4colo | I'm often times too literal |
| 05:15.01 | drmessano | Yahoo is so ignored now, no one has cared at all that Yahoo doesn't have a release version of their IM client thats vista compatible yet |
| 05:15.43 | C4colo | except for you apparently |
| 05:15.58 | C4colo | you seem to know this tidbit of information when I surely didn't |
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| 05:16.02 | drmessano | Yahoo could add free SIP calls in/out worldwide and people would still use FreeWorldDialup instead |
| 05:16.08 | drmessano | lol |
| 05:16.23 | drmessano | I do tech support all day.. I am PAID to know! |
| 05:16.26 | drmessano | heh |
| 05:16.57 | jackson__ | ...I'm surprised that you're complaining about yahoo when AOL is around to kick. |
| 05:17.17 | C4colo | yahoo, the new AOL |
| 05:17.26 | drmessano | AOL knows it's near death.. Yahoo is bargaining with Microsoft like its 1997 |
| 05:17.35 | C4colo | haha |
| 05:17.43 | C4colo | is there any way to speed up DD? |
| 05:17.53 | unpaidbill | didnt ms bitch out |
| 05:17.57 | C4colo | like for example, tell it to skip the 0s ? |
| 05:18.11 | drmessano | "We have VALUE.. have you even seen the Yahooligans Kids site!!??!!!" "Um Jerry, we canned that site in 2001" "Damnit!" |
| 05:18.24 | unpaidbill | haha |
| 05:19.24 | C4colo | also, will LVM allocate space if you write 0s to the drive? |
| 05:19.35 | C4colo | or does it just laugh and ignore you? |
| 05:19.38 | C4colo | (as it should) |
| 05:21.38 | C4colo | waits for dd to finish |
| 05:23.04 | C4colo | dd needs a progress bar like wget |
| 05:23.51 | C4colo | someone write that for me |
| 05:24.11 | C4colo | this is linux, I want functionality and I want someone else to write it for me NOW for FREE |
| 05:25.21 | drmessano | ..and in Java! |
| 05:25.24 | drmessano | ducks |
| 05:25.45 | jackson__ | and a compositing gui |
| 05:26.01 | drmessano | I want someone to write a java app that fragments a hard drive |
| 05:26.03 | drmessano | Call it jar |
| 05:26.16 | drmessano | So I can download jar.jar |
| 05:26.23 | C4colo | hah |
| 05:27.00 | drmessano | If you wrote a config app for linux |
| 05:27.03 | drmessano | and called it conf |
| 05:27.03 | C4colo | if your compost is gooy you need to add more ruffage |
| 05:27.13 | drmessano | and it needed a config file for its preferences |
| 05:27.18 | drmessano | Would you call it conf.conf |
| 05:27.23 | C4colo | of course |
| 05:27.24 | drmessano | and what you configure it with? |
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| 05:27.32 | drmessano | and what would you configure it with? |
| 05:27.37 | C4colo | why not conf.cfg? |
| 05:27.43 | C4colo | or cfg.conf ? |
| 05:27.52 | C4colo | or is cfg the BSD version of conf? |
| 05:27.59 | drmessano | That just advertises that someone was lazy |
| 05:28.20 | drmessano | conf.cfg is blatant admission of laziness |
| 05:28.27 | C4colo | haha |
| 05:28.42 | C4colo | xen uses .cfg for their configuration files for domUs |
| 05:28.49 | C4colo | well, technically you can name them whatever you want |
| 05:28.51 | drmessano | configuration.cfg is even better |
| 05:29.18 | drmessano | what if php was written in PHP |
| 05:29.30 | drmessano | Would you need to include the php.php file in all your apps? |
| 05:29.41 | C4colo | how about earthnet.net or worldcom.com ? |
| 05:29.55 | C4colo | those are always funny |
| 05:30.05 | C4colo | I'm going to register disneycom.com |
| 05:30.05 | drmessano | You forgot the best example |
| 05:30.07 | jackson__ | the .Net fiasco? |
| 05:30.14 | drmessano | What did .com stand for in DOS? |
| 05:30.29 | C4colo | an executable that could run under dos |
| 05:30.32 | drmessano | command.... |
| 05:30.46 | drmessano | So command.com was command.command |
| 05:30.52 | C4colo | nah |
| 05:31.19 | C4colo | .com was .exe by another name |
| 05:31.28 | C4colo | .coms would run without highmem |
| 05:31.46 | drmessano | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COM_file |
| 05:31.56 | C4colo | yea yea |
| 05:32.00 | C4colo | go and quote wiki at me |
| 05:32.02 | C4colo | see if I blink |
| 05:32.12 | drmessano | So, pre DOS it was "command" |
| 05:32.21 | drmessano | in DOS it had lost its meaning |
| 05:33.34 | C4colo | a COM file is a simple type of executable file |
| 05:33.57 | drmessano | Thats obvious |
| 05:34.14 | drmessano | But they didnt pick three arbitrary letters |
| 05:34.21 | C4colo | sure they did |
| 05:34.22 | drmessano | .com meant something at one time |
| 05:34.36 | drmessano | Which was reference in the original paragraph |
| 05:34.47 | jackson__ | holds up a white sheet of paper with a single circle drawn on it - "You know, for kids" |
| 05:35.53 | Juggie | .com's were typically resident programs |
| 05:36.01 | Juggie | like drivers and such |
| 05:36.13 | drmessano | mouse.com ftw |
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| 05:36.51 | C4colo | In Intel 8080 CPU architecture, only 65,536 bytes of memory could be addressed (address range 0x0000 to 0xFFFF). |
| 05:37.01 | C4colo | Note that there was no possibility of running more than one program or command at a time: the program loaded at 0x0100 was run, and no other. |
| 05:37.38 | drmessano | Which is why Windows 95 ran so poorly on the 8080 |
| 05:37.55 | C4colo | lol |
| 05:37.55 | Juggie | haha |
| 05:38.00 | Juggie | windows did not run on an 8080 |
| 05:38.04 | Juggie | not 95 anyways |
| 05:38.10 | drmessano | exactly my point |
| 05:38.14 | drmessano | Worthless |
| 05:38.27 | C4colo | I had windows '84 on my 8080 |
| 05:38.32 | Juggie | :P |
| 05:38.43 | mog | Juggie, in hell it does |
| 05:38.49 | C4colo | haha |
| 05:38.50 | Juggie | MOG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 |
| 05:38.55 | Juggie | i thought you were dead! |
| 05:38.57 | drmessano | DOSSHELL was all I ever needed |
| 05:38.59 | mog | Juggie, |
| 05:39.02 | mog | manydid |
| 05:39.06 | C4colo | running vista with 512MB of RAM is like running 95 on an 8080 |
| 05:39.08 | Juggie | desqview was the coolest |
| 05:39.14 | Juggie | the dos multitasker |
| 05:39.17 | Juggie | it was kickass |
| 05:39.38 | Juggie | mog, my gf is in portland and she ate at jack in the box |
| 05:39.45 | mog | heh |
| 05:39.48 | Juggie | it reminded me of our 2am treck to jack in the box in dallas |
| 05:39.48 | mog | im eating some this weekend |
| 05:39.54 | Juggie | and me topping over a full coke on the floor :) |
| 05:39.56 | mog | as i will be in nashville |
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| 05:40.20 | C4colo | I have only ever eaten at Jack in the Box once in my life even though we have them all over here |
| 05:40.21 | Juggie | ah nice |
| 05:40.25 | C4colo | it was in Texas |
| 05:40.31 | Juggie | i ate there because it was 2am |
| 05:40.34 | C4colo | lol |
| 05:40.35 | Juggie | and it was the only thing open |
| 05:40.38 | C4colo | it wasn't bad actually |
| 05:40.40 | mog | the only reason |
| 05:40.44 | mog | and the best |
| 05:40.45 | drmessano | Thats kinda like Krystals |
| 05:40.59 | C4colo | damn, now I want a burger |
| 05:41.00 | drmessano | Who the hell eats Krystals BY CHOICE? |
| 05:41.14 | C4colo | who are we talking about? |
| 05:41.32 | drmessano | "Damn.. I'm stoned, drunk, and I gotta pee..lets go find a Krystals" |
| 05:42.17 | C4colo | heh, I ate at White Castle last year for the first time in my life |
| 05:42.19 | C4colo | that was interesting |
| 05:42.19 | drmessano | That reminds me of the time I got stoned, drunk, had to pee, and wound up in a Krystals at 2am |
| 05:42.25 | C4colo | greesy little bugrers, sliders are |
| 05:42.48 | drmessano | Krystals are the White Castles of the south |
| 05:42.56 | C4colo | ah |
| 05:43.01 | C4colo | do their fries only come in one size? |
| 05:43.04 | drmessano | I got a pic of their headquarters in chattanooga |
| 05:43.12 | drmessano | Square building |
| 05:43.17 | jackson__ | heh, they made a movie about White Castle... |
| 05:43.32 | drmessano | Harold and Kumar rocked |
| 05:43.40 | drmessano | "Heres $200 for the car.. " |
| 05:44.19 | drmessano | White Castle has Chicken Rings |
| 05:44.25 | drmessano | Think about it... |
| 05:44.37 | C4colo | rings? 0.o |
| 05:44.42 | C4colo | what part of the chicken is round? |
| 05:44.44 | C4colo | wait |
| 05:44.46 | C4colo | nevermind! |
| 05:44.57 | drmessano | I believe it's fried sphincter |
| 05:45.01 | jackson__ | its funny that they actually stock and sell frozen white castle products at our local grocery stores. |
| 05:45.06 | mog | how you been juggie |
| 05:45.07 | C4colo | ... i said nevermind |
| 05:45.08 | C4colo | lol |
| 05:45.18 | drmessano | Yeah |
| 05:45.18 | C4colo | yea, I've seen those |
| 05:45.36 | C4colo | actually, I think I've had one once, surprisingly similar to the real thing |
| 05:45.40 | drmessano | Its not the same though.. You miss out on arguing with the employee at 2am |
| 05:45.49 | C4colo | haha |
| 05:46.26 | drmessano | "No... I want three with cheese, two no onion, two cheese extra onion, two no ketchup, two no onion extra ketchup... ARENT YOU PAYING ATTENTION???" |
| 05:46.53 | C4colo | heh, we just orderd about 10 of them in their default configuration |
| 05:46.58 | jackson__ | wonder what special attention they paid to the order after that? |
| 05:47.05 | C4colo | HAh |
| 05:47.08 | drmessano | hah |
| 05:47.35 | drmessano | Probably something out of Beavis and Butthead, I would imagine |
| 05:47.43 | drmessano | No wonder they smelled like fish |
| 05:48.16 | drmessano | "i didnt know you guys had a fi.. oh jeez" |
| 05:51.23 | Juggie | mog, good good, you |
| 05:51.26 | Juggie | hows married life? |
| 05:51.30 | mog | busy |
| 05:51.37 | mog | amazing |
| 05:52.21 | mog | highly reccomend it |
| 05:52.38 | Juggie | haha |
| 05:52.46 | Juggie | been with the gf 1 year on the 20th |
| 05:52.51 | Juggie | i'll take my time |
| 05:52.55 | mog | heh |
| 05:52.58 | mog | thats way to long |
| 05:53.00 | mog | get hitched |
| 05:53.03 | drmessano | Dont get married |
| 05:53.05 | Juggie | hahaha |
| 05:53.15 | drmessano | Find some woman you hate, buy her a house |
| 05:54.44 | C4colo | yea, but how do you know if you really hate her until you live with her for a few years, have a few kids, share all the bills, then you can really know for sure if you should buy her a house |
| 05:57.33 | Madkiss | hi all. i got this in my extension.ael: http://paste.debian.net/2328/ -- the goal is that whenever someone from the inside calls 93, asterisk is supposed to check whether that clients username is member of "firstfloor" or "secondfloor" and do the appropriate thing. |
| 05:57.54 | Madkiss | it doesn't work that way, tho. does anyone see anything obvious? |
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| 06:00.54 | shital | Hello All |
| 06:06.11 | Madkiss | ah, i figured it out |
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| 06:27.17 | shital | I have this simple dial plan http://pastebin.ca/1010174 when i dial My PSTN no, it continuously rings even when i cut the call, can any one give me the solution please? |
| 06:27.41 | shital | i just want to happen incoming and outgoing calls |
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| 06:31.41 | mog | can some one tell me how to iptables forward traffic from eth1 8080 to lo 8888. So that I can see this stupid webserver bound to local host? |
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| 06:41.55 | fluff | mog: iptables -I INPUT -i eth1 -p tcp --dport 8080 -j ACCEPT |
| 06:42.39 | fluff | mog: oh. nevermind |
| 06:42.40 | fluff | =) |
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| 07:04.10 | dongs | so im registering a wifi phone to my asterisk box on public internets |
| 07:04.15 | dongs | and i cant hear the remote side |
| 07:04.24 | dongs | (cuz obviously the wifii phone is nat'd or whatever) |
| 07:04.25 | dongs | halp. |
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| 07:06.53 | dongs | I get Nat = N in sip show peers. |
| 07:06.59 | dongs | obviously it hsould be Y or something. |
| 07:07.08 | mkillebrew | should it? |
| 07:07.09 | mort_gib | nat=yes |
| 07:07.14 | dongs | already done that. |
| 07:07.21 | dongs | still says N. |
| 07:07.26 | mort_gib | You need to have a good look at firewalls and port forwarding |
| 07:07.31 | mort_gib | ~sipnat |
| 07:07.32 | jbot | [~sipnat] Quick guide on configuring * + SIP behind NAT : http://www.aocomputing.net/?p=3 , otherwise check the WIKI at http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+SIP+NAT+solutions |
| 07:07.38 | dongs | asterisk is on public internets. |
| 07:07.48 | dongs | wifi phone is on public, i have no control over port ofrwarding/etcetc |
| 07:08.07 | dongs | what is this crpa, i thought i could just hop on any public wifi and use this shit. |
| 07:09.08 | dongs | i already read all this stuff. |
| 07:09.42 | dongs | who would want to put asterisk itself behind nat anyway. |
| 07:10.08 | dongs | so how do i configure this stuff so i can call from my phone? |
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| 07:15.45 | dongs | ... |
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| 07:17.38 | dongs | lol |
| 07:17.42 | dongs | asterisk fails |
| 07:17.45 | dongs | works fine with voipstunt |
| 07:17.47 | dongs | fuck you guys. |
| 07:17.49 | dongs | your shit never works |
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| 07:22.13 | mort_gib | No, you have to know what you are doing in order to get things to work... So it's more you that don't know how to get things to work |
| 07:23.07 | mort_gib | So you now have two options, learn or keep using Voipstunt, that have recently changed their payment options.... |
| 07:23.57 | creativx | mort |
| 07:23.58 | creativx | he left |
| 07:23.58 | creativx | ;) |
| 07:24.50 | mort_gib | I know, I just HAD to do it! ;-) |
| 07:24.58 | creativx | haha ok |
| 07:25.16 | mort_gib | -You DO know that this stuff is saved to the web right?? |
| 07:26.50 | mort_gib | Thing is I see far tooo often "IT Professionals" that don't want to learn themselves, all they want is a "Support contract" for any of the services they "support" -sigh- |
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| 07:28.23 | creativx | if they pay, why not |
| 07:29.42 | mort_gib | Because it's not the right way |
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| 07:30.46 | mort_gib | I had a project running where a company wanted to spend some £7000 on Juniper firewalls... They could have used OpenBSD boxes and done more for less than £2000 |
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| 07:31.08 | mort_gib | CARP/IPSec/BGRP -All there |
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| 07:31.26 | creativx | we're running junipers |
| 07:31.27 | creativx | hehe |
| 07:31.33 | mort_gib | Looser :-) |
| 07:34.15 | creativx | ;) |
| 07:34.20 | mort_gib | -No honestly, run any Firewall you like. If you are more familiar with Juniper then go ahead and grease yourself up :-) |
| 07:35.13 | mort_gib | It's like the old discussion about whether karate or boxing is best |
| 07:35.22 | mort_gib | -What you do best will work best for you |
| 07:36.18 | mort_gib | In this case we HAD OpenBSD knowledge inhouse, but nobody had ever touched a Juniper |
| 07:36.35 | creativx | yeah |
| 07:36.44 | creativx | in that case going for juniper makes not that much sense |
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| 07:37.20 | marc7 | unless management finds comfort in spending extra for a support contract |
| 07:37.45 | mort_gib | Nope, apart from -Juniper also sold a very expensive support contract, so if they couldn't figure out how to do things, they could point their feeble fingers at Juniper networks |
| 07:38.00 | mort_gib | -That actually does have a decent enough support staff |
| 07:38.52 | mort_gib | management should be uncomfortable with an IT dept that will lean back and say "It's the Juniper guys, they will fix it" |
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| 07:40.33 | marc7 | mort_gib: perhaps, but depending on the size of the company, how much gear they have deployed, and how mission-critical their network is.... IT management can easily defend the decision to create a budget to cover their asses |
| 07:42.28 | mort_gib | marc7: Yes, but is covering your ass making proper feasability studies, and courses/training prior to deploying or a general purpose support contract -That ALWAYS starts with , we accept no responsability for the usefullness of XXX equipment |
| 07:42.36 | marc7 | i'm not advocating that approach, but i can see how all too often, a budget on service and support far exceeds the amount being spent on hiring / training / retaining technical staff |
| 07:42.37 | mort_gib | You DO have a point |
| 07:43.28 | mort_gib | By all means sign up for a SAP support contract, but some of the networking stuff you really should be very good at! |
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| 07:45.14 | mort_gib | Damn, one of the gofers was "cleverly detecting peer networking on port 9100" And scornfully said that this was the reason that our VPN was slow, and not that it was printing as I claimed ;-) |
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| 07:51.53 | pukkita | mort_gib: hehe |
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| 07:52.50 | pukkita | mort_gib: openbsd is great for firewalls |
| 07:53.00 | mort_gib | Yep! pf rules |
| 07:53.11 | pukkita | though I found myself switching to pfsense/m0no0wall lately |
| 07:53.28 | mort_gib | Why?? |
| 07:53.30 | pukkita | less time involved... and pf too :) |
| 07:54.07 | mort_gib | I mean, m0no0wall won't give you the same control over DMZ/multiple uplinks |
| 07:54.11 | krdian | pukkita: ... but iptables is more flexible and stable for firewall/NAT IMHO |
| 07:54.32 | pukkita | krdian: I haven't used linux for almost 10 years |
| 07:54.43 | mort_gib | krdian: I can't say I agree... |
| 07:54.44 | pukkita | mort_gib have you tried pfsense? |
| 07:54.50 | mort_gib | Not yet... |
| 07:55.37 | pukkita | mort_gib you're right, I mean for a single FW. For isakmpd setups I set up a dozen boxex that have been running for years without a hitch |
| 07:55.48 | krdian | huh i found that for nat/firewall/qos iptables is better, i have tried pf but fails in many cases |
| 07:55.55 | mort_gib | I had an incident with a "content aware" firewall... Allowing a user to access some media streams proved to damn difficult |
| 07:56.46 | mort_gib | I have yet to see pf failing, as for QoS, I haven't done much work with pf's QoS but have read it up and it seems very flexible |
| 07:56.51 | pukkita | mort_gib try it, I tried on the same P800 box that ran OBSD 3.2 based FW for years pfsense, and was overly impressed, is noticeably faster |
| 07:57.36 | mort_gib | -So pfsense (on FreeBSD) gives better performance?? |
| 07:57.51 | pukkita | and setting it up is like eating cake, in about 10 minutes with just one hand |
| 07:57.52 | krdian | pukkita: of course i preffer openbsd, is secure and stable as well, |
| 07:58.02 | pukkita | 3.2 to actual pfsense yes |
| 07:58.28 | shital | i have set up my Asterisk box for incoming calls, do i need to install extra things for outgoing calls to happen? |
| 07:58.28 | flohack | Kobaz: are you there? |
| 07:58.45 | pukkita | dunno compared to 4.x, but as I told you I must manage my time veeery carefully, cannot cover all fronts |
| 07:58.57 | mort_gib | shital: Not if you have an account with a VOIP provider out in the world... |
| 07:59.26 | krdian | shital: as i remember u have configured zap cars so u don't need anything else |
| 07:59.30 | pukkita | btw I'm amazed by FOP, once you get a grip is way powerful! (all my * boxes run FreeBSD BTW) |
| 07:59.49 | krdian | shital: just configure ur trunk |
| 07:59.58 | mort_gib | Yes, we all have that problem, but firewalls, networking is the one exception! |
| 08:00.10 | mort_gib | I run * on CentOS |
| 08:00.39 | krdian | mort_gib: mee too :(( |
| 08:00.51 | krdian | mort_gib: crappyOS |
| 08:01.02 | pukkita | if you like BSD try it on FBSD |
| 08:01.12 | mort_gib | Well, not too bad, I prefer OpenBSD |
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| 08:01.23 | mort_gib | pukkita: Learning curve?? |
| 08:01.36 | pukkita | very good ISDN stack with i4b, sangoma drivers, etc |
| 08:02.09 | pukkita | mort_gib: for FreeBSD? I found it way easier to manage and much more organized than any Linux distro for server purposes |
| 08:02.31 | pukkita | and knowing pf you already covered on of the most difficult areas |
| 08:02.49 | mort_gib | -I haven't tried FreeBSD yet, one of those things i Suppose. |
| 08:02.57 | pukkita | Debian somewhat followed the FreeBSD trend. |
| 08:03.32 | pukkita | one of the things one finds is that the "man" command is really useful |
| 08:03.45 | mort_gib | -Like in OpenBSd |
| 08:03.53 | pukkita | something that cannot be said on linux |
| 08:03.55 | pukkita | yep |
| 08:04.22 | pukkita | try it, the 7.x branch is impressive |
| 08:04.30 | pukkita | in TCP/IP stack and SMP |
| 08:04.40 | mort_gib | I create an image every so often for Soekris 4801, which pt is my favorite small firewall/VPN box, so a complete install takes me some 20 minutes |
| 08:04.51 | pukkita | you can setup a base system in about 5 minutes |
| 08:04.59 | mort_gib | -I'm starting the download now! |
| 08:05.45 | pukkita | mort_gib: mine too! I also have setup one for mobile comms on a forestry firefighters truck |
| 08:06.03 | mort_gib | Yeah :-) -Cool! |
| 08:06.06 | pukkita | on a soekris, I managed to get everthing done with pfsense |
| 08:06.50 | mort_gib | I have a few Soekris boxe's running as internet gateways for commercial ships, choosing WiFi or 3G depending on availability.... |
| 08:07.08 | mort_gib | -I wanted to add sattelite, but never had the request :-) |
| 08:07.12 | pukkita | HSDPA/3G, High bandwith SAT, low orbit SAT, Wifi, etc |
| 08:07.46 | pukkita | a mate told me about very similar boxes, Alix or Alyx, that are also cool |
| 08:08.19 | mort_gib | no costal vessels only. But imagine that you roll out a box globally that gives the vessels cost efficient Internet based on the location :-) |
| 08:08.28 | mort_gib | There would be a market there..... |
| 08:08.48 | pukkita | speed with a BGAN (Inmarsat) was impressive |
| 08:08.59 | mort_gib | -But expensive |
| 08:09.04 | pukkita | yep |
| 08:09.07 | mort_gib | Latency is also an issue |
| 08:09.11 | pukkita | I proposed something in that line |
| 08:09.25 | pukkita | mort_gib it depends on the service you choose |
| 08:09.48 | pukkita | you can choose video streaming type service, but of course is more expensive |
| 08:09.51 | mort_gib | I haven't looked THAT much into it.... I have to be very careful with my time ;-) |
| 08:09.57 | pukkita | haha |
| 08:11.01 | pukkita | I have tinkered a little with dreamboxes, and thought about integrating everything, a SAT motorized dish to track the sats, and the soekris as the comms heart |
| 08:11.29 | pukkita | for ships that woul be kinda useful too |
| 08:11.45 | pukkita | mort_gib: are you in EU? |
| 08:11.46 | mort_gib | Sounds interesting, how would you monitor bandwidth usage?? |
| 08:12.05 | mort_gib | Yes, I'm in EU, for at least 5 minutes more ;-) |
| 08:12.13 | pukkita | ? |
| 08:12.32 | mort_gib | I'm off to Gibraltar in a few minute to see some of my clients |
| 08:12.32 | pukkita | in pfsense that comes out of the box |
| 08:12.42 | pukkita | Spain? |
| 08:13.08 | mort_gib | -Well I don't so much need that, but ANY project like that, bandwidth monitoring is at the core! |
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| 08:13.55 | pukkita | in pfsense you have live graphs and RRD storage of tons of parameters, one of the bandwith, of course. You could have mult-WAN setups also |
| 08:14.16 | mort_gib | Is support for that better than in PF?? |
| 08:14.23 | mort_gib | Multi-Wan?? |
| 08:14.28 | pukkita | yep |
| 08:14.40 | mort_gib | -Cool, better have a look at pfsense |
| 08:14.46 | pukkita | load balancing, CARP, etc |
| 08:15.00 | mort_gib | -Yes, but that is also done quite nicely in pf |
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| 08:15.37 | pukkita | I know, in fact what they do is to take the good pf things and integrate them with a nice wb GUI |
| 08:15.42 | mort_gib | -I have a lot of clients in Gibraltar where Internet is still rather unstable and expensive |
| 08:15.52 | pukkita | Llanito? |
| 08:16.11 | mort_gib | No, not me |
| 08:16.13 | mort_gib | :-) |
| 08:16.23 | pukkita | they'd better setup a Wifi link and use Spain's Telcos for internet then |
| 08:16.35 | pukkita | not that they're that great nor cheap, but at least stable |
| 08:16.51 | pukkita | or do you mean mobile internet |
| 08:16.53 | mort_gib | Not allowed, and Telefonica is also not for the faint of heart |
| 08:17.04 | pukkita | I'm in Seville BTW |
| 08:17.17 | mort_gib | There are now three player in Gib, Gibtelecom, Sapphire and CTS |
| 08:17.22 | mort_gib | -Yeah, Spanish?? |
| 08:17.27 | pukkita | yep |
| 08:17.32 | mort_gib | :-) |
| 08:17.33 | pukkita | from Cadiz in fact |
| 08:17.43 | mort_gib | Soy Danes, pero... |
| 08:18.12 | pukkita | hehe better weather here maybe |
| 08:18.33 | mort_gib | Telefonica is not that good down here, I asked for leased lines for an office in Algeciras, but no no no, Tenemos ADSL.... Tenemos ADSL |
| 08:18.48 | pukkita | truy Ono |
| 08:18.59 | pukkita | (Ono = Auna = Retevision) |
| 08:19.14 | mort_gib | -I might, ONO is here in La Linea, where my office is... |
| 08:19.28 | mort_gib | Auna, I'm not sure about |
| 08:19.34 | pukkita | the have a new service for DSL, similar to leased |
| 08:19.47 | pukkita | MPLS could be |
| 08:20.03 | pukkita | Auna/Retevision = old Ono's name |
| 08:20.38 | pukkita | that could be interesting if they don't have cable where you need it |
| 08:20.45 | mort_gib | Like what BT tried in London |
| 08:21.00 | mort_gib | They failed though, they got greedy! |
| 08:21.18 | mort_gib | contention rate?? |
| 08:21.42 | pukkita | in Cadiz there is another company that works well, dunoo if they cover Algeciras, for PLC based service |
| 08:22.46 | mort_gib | -I have been told that bandwidth coming in to Algeciras/Malaga is sucked up by the online gambling companies in Gib.... |
| 08:23.23 | mort_gib | -And, YES, weather IS better here! Although I miss winter in DK |
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| 08:24.00 | pukkita | mort_gib: I'm inclined to believe that. Almost all gambling is located at Gib or Malta |
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| 08:24.28 | mort_gib | Yes, it's pretty funny... |
| 08:24.56 | mort_gib | Anyway, I have to go, you can find me on Yahoo with the same nic |
| 08:25.13 | mort_gib | if interested, sounds like we are working on much the same issues.... |
| 08:25.56 | pukkita | another solution would be a LMDS link for Primary/Frame Relay, Ono's also inclined to do that... I already had their equipment for an E1, so they offered a 2Mbps Frame Relay w/ warranted bandwidth for 380/mo |
| 08:26.15 | pukkita | ok! see you! |
| 08:26.28 | mort_gib | That's not bad, but see you later |
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| 08:32.51 | shital | krdian : my extensions.conf file looks like this http://pastebin.ca/1010313 but outgoing calls r not happening, can u please guide me sir? |
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| 08:34.19 | shital | any body can help me please.... |
| 08:35.18 | krdian | shital: lokks good, but probably u need to chebge exten => _9NXXXXXXXX,1,Dial(${OUTBOUNDTRUNK}/${EXTEN}) to exten => _9NXXXXXXXX,1,Dial(${OUTBOUNDTRUNK}/${EXTEN:1}) |
| 08:36.28 | krdian | shital: what happen when u trying to call 9<number> ? |
| 08:37.30 | krdian | shital: u can test it on * consoele: CLI> dial 9<some number>@outgoing |
| 08:40.31 | shital | krdian: Sir when i dial 9945003535 it gives beeps sound |
| 08:42.36 | krdian | shital: congestion ? |
| 08:43.01 | krdian | shital: what can u see on console ? |
| 08:43.10 | shital | and at the CLI prompt it gives message |
| 08:43.17 | shital | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:43.56 | shital | but that user is not busy at all, i tried to other Nos also but same reply |
| 08:44.35 | krdian | shital: set verbose 4 and pastebin all messages form console |
| 08:45.21 | krdian | shital: probably badly number formatting |
| 08:45.49 | shital | ok, can u plz help me wat modifications i do? |
| 08:46.11 | shital | Sir wats Verbose 4 i did not get u |
| 08:46.21 | krdian | shital: do set verbose 4 on console and call again |
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| 08:46.31 | dominic1 | Hello guys. |
| 08:46.51 | shital | plz give me the command sir |
| 08:47.22 | krdian | shital: core set verbose 4 |
| 08:47.31 | dominic1 | RXFAX vs Hylafax what do you think about both solutions? I tested both and had many troubles with iaxmodem und hylafax. At the moment I have no problems with RXfax. But what do you think? |
| 08:49.01 | shital | ok sir |
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| 08:49.37 | shital | the message is http://pastebin.ca/1010323 |
| 08:49.41 | krdian | dominic1: i'm using hylafax + iaxmodem since ~3 years without any problems |
| 08:50.05 | shital | krdian: Sir the message is http://pastebin.ca/1010323 |
| 08:50.11 | dominic1 | all installed on the same system? |
| 08:50.20 | krdian | dominic1: yes |
| 08:51.10 | krdian | dominic1: i had prblems with rxfax, but that was on 1.2.x |
| 08:51.30 | dominic1 | I always thought using hylafax is like using a sledge-hammer to crack a nut |
| 08:51.30 | krdian | dominic1: thera was some problems with outgoing faxes |
| 08:51.51 | krdian | dominic1: depends on kond of service |
| 08:52.13 | dominic1 | Okay, how many iaxmodems did you configure? |
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| 08:52.29 | krdian | dominic1: i have big service which sending and receinving ~1k faxes per minute |
| 08:52.49 | dominic1 | omg |
| 08:52.53 | dominic1 | that's much |
| 08:53.21 | krdian | dominic1: tehere is about 32 iaxmodems |
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| 08:54.18 | dominic1 | is it right that I need one iaxmodem for every inbound and outbound connection? |
| 08:54.41 | jblack | Wait. To do 1k faxes a minute on 32 iaxmodems would mean your faxes have to average 2 seconds per fax. |
| 08:55.28 | krdian | jblack: 32 for inbound and 32 for outbound |
| 08:55.44 | krdian | jblack: u r right there is 2x32 |
| 08:55.55 | jblack | With 64 fax lines, that works out to an average of 4 seconds a fax. |
| 08:56.12 | dominic1 | I want to create a fax to mail gateway for about 300 users. I have the mailaddresses in database (voicemail). Will it be possible to read the mailadress for a extension from the database via hylafax? |
| 08:56.51 | krdian | jblack: heh i sayd ~1k not exactly :) |
| 08:57.11 | jblack | Ok. If you cut it in half, that's 8 seconds a fax. |
| 08:58.31 | krdian | jblack: grrrr, u won, i do calculations again :) |
| 08:59.03 | jblack | Assume faxes take 2 minutes, and you have a bank of 64 fax machine equivilants, you're looking at about 32 a minute. |
| 08:59.09 | krdian | jblack: anyway this service is sending/receinving tons of faxes :P |
| 08:59.50 | jblack | ok |
| 09:00.13 | jblack | Of course... a ton weighs 2,000.... |
| 09:00.27 | asteriskumut | hi all how can i get asterisk send refer/3xx messages coming from its clients(phones) to another proxy server that the asterisk is connected to as a pbx? |
| 09:00.34 | krdian | jblack: i'll kill u :P |
| 09:00.53 | krdian | shital: what number exactly u trying to reach |
| 09:01.07 | jblack | With math that bad, its' quite possible. =) |
| 09:01.14 | dominic1 | not in metric @jblack |
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| 09:01.44 | jblack | dominic1: And that helps him how? |
| 09:01.48 | shital | Sir its actually 9945003535 |
| 09:02.11 | mandh | Hello all, would any one please advice me with billing solution to Asterisk ,auth and accountaing pre-paid cards? |
| 09:02.47 | shital | and now i changed that OUTBOUNDTRUNK=2 and i tried its saying no is not correct |
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| 09:04.54 | jblack | krdian: I can imagine it looks like more faxes than one can comprehend. If it makes you feel better, 64 faxes every 2 minutes works out to 46,000 faxes a day. That sound cool enough? |
| 09:06.11 | shital | krdian: Can you please tell me what would be the pattern matching for all outgoing calls? |
| 09:08.13 | dominic1 | How do you check which of your iaxmodems is busy or not? |
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| 09:08.56 | XnOSX | good morning for all! |
| 09:11.27 | krdian | jblack: i have done mistake, looked into stats, its ~1k/hour not minute, shame on me :( |
| 09:12.11 | krdian | shital: local or long distance calls ? |
| 09:12.18 | jblack | behold the power of basic math skills. |
| 09:12.52 | jblack | Even 1k an hour is suspicious, but at least it's not up in lala land. =) |
| 09:12.57 | shital | Sir local call |
| 09:13.13 | shital | Now calls are going sir |
| 09:13.32 | shital | but the problem is with dial tone |
| 09:13.39 | krdian | jblack: :) |
| 09:15.04 | shital | when a continous dial tone comes and if i dial full no then on console it display fisrt missing, but when i here a dial tone like bell then call goes |
| 09:15.04 | krdian | ok, need more coffe, going to kitchen |
| 09:15.17 | shital | whats the problem sir? |
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| 09:17.21 | fcois | hello |
| 09:17.24 | fcois | I need help for an 'asterisk appliance aa50' |
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| 09:18.06 | shital | krdian: r u busy? |
| 09:19.16 | krdian | shital: i have to collect logs from all calls then can say anything |
| 09:19.27 | fcois | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:19.31 | krdian | shital: sorry, u have to of course :P |
| 09:20.02 | krdian | ok, brb in 15 mins |
| 09:20.41 | XnOSX | anybody can tell me what can i do for run asterisk with colors in remote console |
| 09:20.42 | XnOSX | ¿??¿?? |
| 09:21.12 | fcois | it is something like $asterisk -rccdv |
| 09:21.31 | krdian | is gone. bbl, i'm petting my pet boa constrictor. |
| 09:21.59 | fcois | XnOSX: try to do asterisk --help to know how to do |
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| 09:22.31 | shital | ok i pasted sir |
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| 09:23.59 | shital | Sir the latest message at CLI is http://pastebin.ca/1010357 |
| 09:24.42 | shital | its taking one no less than i dial |
| 09:29.44 | fcois | shital & krdian : you know how to add tftpd on busybox 'asterisk appliance aa50' ? |
| 09:30.27 | shital | sorry |
| 09:32.33 | fcois | shital : know you how to add tftpd command in a 'asterisk appliance aa50' (busybox system)? |
| 09:34.53 | shital | sorry i donno |
| 09:35.05 | fcois | :-( |
| 09:35.49 | mvanbaak | you want to run a tftp server on the aa50 ? |
| 09:36.18 | fcois | yes I create a autoprovisioning system |
| 09:36.28 | fcois | and now I need a tftp server |
| 09:37.11 | fcois | mvanbaak: you have a solution? |
| 09:37.12 | mvanbaak | it's not installed already ? |
| 09:37.18 | fcois | no |
| 09:37.29 | fcois | there is tftp but not tftpd |
| 09:38.48 | mvanbaak | try: find / -name '*tftp*' |
| 09:39.29 | fcois | root:~> find / -name '*tftp*' |
| 09:39.29 | fcois | /bin/tftp |
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| 09:40.52 | fcois | and an other in the sys folder |
| 09:41.11 | fcois | in /sys/module/ip_conntrack_tftp |
| 09:41.18 | stimpie | does someone know how to get the codec of an incoming sip call? ${SIP_CODEC} does not seem to contain it |
| 09:42.21 | fcois | mvanbaak: you saw my messages ? |
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| 09:43.57 | railsmunky | hey people. :) I'm having an interesting problem with a couple of sip devices. |
| 09:44.10 | railsmunky | I'm running an aastra 55i and xlite |
| 09:44.37 | railsmunky | i can call from xlite to the 55i extension and answer etc.. but when i call the other way i get a "no route to destination" |
| 09:44.40 | railsmunky | can anyone help? |
| 09:45.32 | fcois | call the aastra support no? |
| 09:46.13 | railsmunky | it's surely just a configuration thing? |
| 09:46.15 | fcois | railsmunky: and me, I have problems with 'asterisk appliance aa50' |
| 09:46.22 | fcois | I think |
| 09:46.45 | fcois | 55i is a phone I think no? |
| 09:47.02 | railsmunky | yeah |
| 09:47.13 | fcois | have you tryed qualify option? |
| 09:47.25 | railsmunky | isn't that for nat? |
| 09:47.52 | fcois | I don't remember |
| 09:48.11 | fcois | but I could have some problems wich was results by that |
| 09:48.26 | railsmunky | ok |
| 09:48.32 | railsmunky | i don't think this is the same thing |
| 09:48.34 | fcois | see in the CLI if the 55i is registered |
| 09:48.47 | railsmunky | if it's not how can i call from xlite ;) |
| 09:49.34 | railsmunky | i think it must be xlite |
| 09:49.52 | fcois | try a cisco 7970 :-) |
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| 10:05.44 | jeanmiiii | Hi |
| 10:06.08 | fcois | salut jeanmiiii |
| 10:06.39 | jeanmiiii | I would like to compile a static version of asterisk to avoid getting through trouvble after copying the resulting binaries to another linux distro |
| 10:07.13 | jeanmiiii | how/where can I set the compilation options to have the binaries being compiled statically ? |
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| 10:26.48 | defswork | anyone know anything about the phone network in Grenada ? |
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| 10:28.16 | fcois | no |
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| 10:45.00 | mort_gib | defswork: Grenada?? Not Grenada in Spain I take it?? |
| 10:46.13 | eXistenZ | is it possible to connect to internet through a connection between mobile and the ip pbx? |
| 10:46.33 | eXistenZ | I mean by calling from the mobile into the landline, which is connected to the ip pbx |
| 10:49.53 | defswork | mort_gib: no - in the carribean |
| 10:51.33 | mort_gib | OK :-) |
| 10:52.49 | eXistenZ | pokes Qwell |
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| 10:59.47 | jeanmiiii | I have downloaded asteris 1.6 beta8 |
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| 11:00.18 | jeanmiiii | I have been able of compiling it without any problem at all |
| 11:00.48 | jeanmiiii | I have then tried to compile it statically by selecting the relabtn option in the make menuconfig |
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| 11:01.18 | jeanmiiii | and now it just won't compile.... throwing an error about some crypto libs |
| 11:01.23 | jeanmiiii | any clue ? |
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| 11:04.14 | asteriskumut | hi all |
| 11:05.50 | tzafrir_home | fcois, generally a keyword for searches to help answer your question: "buildroot" |
| 11:06.31 | asteriskumut | i have a problem about sip message . do you know any way send 302 or redirect message from asterisk pbx to sesion server What can i do ? please let me know |
| 11:07.41 | asteriskumut | or call transfer (refer) |
| 11:09.31 | asteriskumut | how can i see like this message "REFER sip:transit.vonage.net:5060 SIP/2.0" |
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| 11:27.26 | asteriskumut | How can i use "core show application transfer" command let me know |
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| 11:39.44 | tzafrir_home | asteriskumut, from the command prompt of Asterisk. you gt that e.g. from running 'asterisk -r' |
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| 11:53.03 | patrick-- | Hey, does anyone know why some of my faxes received via rxfax are not viewable? |
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| 11:53.35 | lmadsen | patrick--: what is the delivery tech? |
| 11:53.53 | patrick-- | erm, spandsp |
| 11:53.56 | lmadsen | patrick--: also, that question is not a very good question |
| 11:54.01 | patrick-- | im sorry |
| 11:54.09 | patrick-- | rxfax(${FAXFILE}.tif) |
| 11:54.24 | lmadsen | you need to be more specific -- what you've asked is for someone to predict the future essentially |
| 11:55.10 | fcois | I will try it |
| 11:55.13 | lmadsen | gym time, good luck! |
| 11:55.19 | patrick-- | mhh |
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| 11:59.08 | fcois | tzafrir_home: I can't use this command, this command don't exist |
| 11:59.23 | tzafrir_home | It's not a command |
| 11:59.30 | fcois | what it is? |
| 11:59.42 | tzafrir_home | It is a build environment. A sort of distribution |
| 11:59.57 | tzafrir_home | ~wiki buildroot |
| 12:00.08 | tzafrir_home | bah |
| 12:00.36 | fcois | and, in my case, I have the appliance aa50 and I just can connect by ssh |
| 12:00.51 | fcois | I wxant to add the command tftpd which isn't compiled |
| 12:01.00 | tzafrir_home | First hit on Yahoo: http://buildroot.uclibc.org |
| 12:01.36 | tzafrir_home | No. You can't just add a command that is not compiled in. You need to rebuild the busybox binary |
| 12:01.54 | fcois | ok now I understand |
| 12:02.16 | fcois | but if I just want to add the tftpd command, I have to compile all ? |
| 12:02.32 | fcois | because, I don't have the source! |
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| 12:04.58 | fcois | tzafrir_home: have you see ^ |
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| 12:08.23 | tzafrir_home | Actually, you have the source, at the svn project aa50 |
| 12:08.43 | tzafrir_home | But setting up a proper build environment is very complicated |
| 12:09.00 | tzafrir_home | For starters, see http://blackfin.uclinux.org |
| 12:09.17 | tzafrir_home | Generally not for the faint of heart |
| 12:11.53 | fcois | I cant find the svn project aa50 ! |
| 12:12.49 | mvanbaak | it's aadk |
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| 12:15.10 | fcois | like that : ? http://downloads.digium.com/pub/telephony/aadk |
| 12:15.52 | mvanbaak | meh, cool date |
| 12:16.12 | mvanbaak | but no, that's the binary, not the source |
| 12:16.29 | mvanbaak | svn co http://svn.digium.com/svn/aadk |
| 12:17.17 | tzafrir_home | http://downloads.digium.com/pub/telephony/aadk/ <-- The date looks more realistic with an ending slash |
| 12:17.36 | tzafrir_home | The wonders of downloads.digium.com |
| 12:17.43 | mvanbaak | rofl |
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| 12:18.13 | fcois | ok but after that, I have to compil and I can't know what to don't forget! |
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| 12:38.03 | rushowr | greets all |
| 12:38.08 | rushowr | jasonwoot you around? |
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| 12:42.32 | russellb | O.O |
| 12:43.22 | lmadsen | wow |
| 12:43.26 | lmadsen | he has been summoned |
| 12:43.36 | rushowr | rofl |
| 12:43.39 | rushowr | hey jasonwoot |
| 12:43.47 | rushowr | how are you today? |
| 12:43.55 | russellb | jasonwoot: RUN, it's a trap! |
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| 12:44.00 | rushowr | ROFLCOPTOR |
| 12:44.05 | lmadsen | [08:38] <rushowr> jasonwoot you around? |
| 12:44.06 | lmadsen | [08:41] * jasonwoot (n=jasonrot@user-69-73-40-171.knology.net) has joined #asterisk |
| 12:44.09 | lmadsen | classic |
| 12:44.15 | rushowr | has the power |
| 12:44.30 | [TK]D-Fender | Has my winning lottery ticket arrived? |
| 12:44.43 | rushowr | D-Fender: No, I Veto'd it |
| 12:44.46 | rushowr | ;-) |
| 12:45.23 | coppice | [TK]D-Fender: you put it in the mail? there's a lottery for you |
| 12:45.45 | rushowr | jasonwoot: hey I tried rolling back to 1.4.16 but still having issues with dropped calls, wanted to check what Zaptel version you were running as well |
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| 12:47.55 | awk | can somebody tell me on a snom 300 how i can disable the volume buttom? |
| 12:48.08 | rushowr | awk: sorry dunno |
| 12:48.22 | awk | think its possible? |
| 12:49.07 | rushowr | awk: hrm.....lemme see here.... |
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| 12:49.59 | rushowr | awk: don't think so, but it's been a LONG time since I worked with a SNOM |
| 12:51.22 | fcois | is there some frenchs here? |
| 12:52.11 | awk | rushowr-away k thanks |
| 12:53.11 | [TK]D-Fender | fcois: Plenty |
| 12:55.16 | fcois | [TK]D-Fender> : thanks |
| 12:56.22 | shido6 | in gdb, I can find out what context, fullnamme,, timezone attachfmt but how do i find out what msgnum asteirsk was working on when it crashed |
| 12:56.22 | shido6 | im using bt full , then f 5 then p vmu->mailbox, etc but what do i use to find out the msgnum it was working on |
| 12:56.22 | shido6 | and cidname and cidnum |
| 12:56.22 | shido6 | ok i have the current director p vms->curdir |
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| 12:58.49 | russellb | copy/paste? |
| 12:58.54 | russellb | shakes his head |
| 12:58.56 | russellb | i'll look though |
| 12:59.21 | rushowr | jasonwoot: you there now? |
| 12:59.27 | russellb | shido6: what function is frame 5? |
| 12:59.44 | shido6 | f 5 |
| 12:59.44 | shido6 | #5 0x00000000004821b9 in pbx_thread (data=Variable "data" is not available. |
| 12:59.44 | shido6 | ) at pbx.c:2623 |
| 12:59.44 | shido6 | 2623__ast_pbx_run(c); |
| 12:59.57 | shido6 | i found it thanks |
| 13:00.01 | shido6 | p vms->fn |
| 13:00.02 | russellb | ok ... |
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| 13:00.58 | shido6 | sorry |
| 13:00.59 | shido6 | i did a f2 |
| 13:01.02 | shido6 | (gdb) f 2 |
| 13:01.02 | shido6 | #2 0x0000002a9b4fee62 in vm_execmain (chan=0x2a9ed074d0, data=Variable "data" is not available. |
| 13:01.02 | shido6 | ) at app_voicemail.c:6823 |
| 13:01.03 | shido6 | 6823cmd = forward_message(chan, context, &vms, vmu, vmfmts, 0, record_gain); |
| 13:01.12 | shido6 | then i did a p vms->fn |
| 13:01.35 | shido6 | and the user was frowarding msg0001 i believe |
| 13:01.40 | shido6 | repeates 4035 times |
| 13:02.13 | shido6 | im looking to reduce the amount of "repeats" and do something more SANE then crashing, like giving an error like, Im afraid I cant do that... and dump them into the help menu |
| 13:02.46 | shido6 | Ive got a realtime setup for vmail with a tennant of 2000 users that crashed my box that was running for 6 days |
| 13:03.01 | shido6 | until this user logged in and tried to forward a message |
| 13:03.47 | shido6 | Im doing so many db dips its crazy but we solved that with some odbc magic |
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| 13:04.15 | shido6 | Im not sure if my db has corrupt data or what... |
| 13:04.43 | shido6 | is there a way i can check the fragmentation of mymysql db? am i looking in the right place? |
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| 13:08.00 | ManxPower | shido6: mysqlcheck might help, |
| 13:08.29 | shido6 | will that lock any tables? |
| 13:08.33 | shido6 | its 12.66 Gigs so far |
| 13:09.01 | awk | it wont lock your tables |
| 13:09.08 | shido6 | but.... |
| 13:09.13 | shido6 | any buts? |
| 13:09.16 | awk | but nothing |
| 13:09.19 | awk | mysql -o -A |
| 13:09.24 | awk | err mysqlcheck -o -A |
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| 13:10.14 | ManxPower | shido6: Have you considered something like Postgreaa? |
| 13:10.35 | shido6 | why would i move to postgress? |
| 13:10.53 | awk | dont do that move.. i've moved away from it... |
| 13:11.00 | ManxPower | 12 gig tables just make me want to look at something other than MySQL. Do you do a lot of writes, or mostly just reads? |
| 13:11.23 | shido6 | both |
| 13:11.25 | ManxPower | I didn't say"Use Postresss", just "look at postgress", if MySQL is not doing what you need. |
| 13:11.38 | awk | have you tweaked your mysql config |
| 13:11.46 | shido6 | users dial an access number enter their user/pass and check messages, they can also send messages and send messaged to distribution lists |
| 13:11.50 | ManxPower | I'm not expert, but I've seen a few MySQL .vs. All other databases debates. |
| 13:11.56 | shido6 | other users hit their message button and login to vmail to do the same thing |
| 13:12.05 | shido6 | i do dips to correct callerid |
| 13:12.13 | shido6 | so LOTS of reads |
| 13:12.24 | shido6 | 3x as many reads as writes |
| 13:12.35 | ManxPower | Most of what I've gleaned from such conversations is "MySQL is blindly fast for reads, not very fast with writes" |
| 13:13.02 | x86 | ManxPower: depends on if you're doing just a basic select or if you have to use a join |
| 13:13.20 | shido6 | no joins |
| 13:13.20 | ManxPower | In any case, MySQL has worked for everything I've used if for, but I don't have large tables either. |
| 13:13.25 | shido6 | insert, select, delete |
| 13:13.30 | shido6 | maybe update |
| 13:13.32 | shido6 | no joins |
| 13:13.40 | x86 | ManxPower: generally joins, sub-selects, and temp tables are much slower in mysql than with other RDBMS systems |
| 13:13.41 | awk | shido6: eg: set global wait_timeout= set global thread_cache_size= sort_buffer, etc etc |
| 13:14.50 | shido6 | i had to tweak those to get it working right. and even these numbers could probably be better |
| 13:15.22 | awk | thread_cache, sort_buffer_size table_cache |
| 13:15.26 | awk | loads of stuff you can play with |
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| 13:16.45 | awk | shido6 just have a look an optimize that db aswell check what mysqlcheck -o -A says on that DB |
| 13:17.01 | sircco | is it possible to mail call duration to predefined set of mail addresses for each extension after call completion |
| 13:18.33 | [TK]D-Fender | sircco: Sure, you can call System in your dialplan when the call is done, or use AMI to catch a CDR event, or if you use SQL for CDR storage you could write a trigger procedure, etc. |
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| 13:19.26 | sircco | [TK]D-Fender: oki tnx, i just needed to know if it's possible, i'll think of my own way :) |
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| 13:30.03 | [T]an2 | what causes this error on my system periodically? |
| 13:30.04 | [T]an2 | [May 7 07:16:35] WARNING[15936] app_dial.c: Unable to forward voice or dtmf |
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| 13:31.39 | pukkita | hi, anyone using Thomson ST2030 with FW 1.58 or 1.59??? |
| 13:31.52 | fcois | me ! |
| 13:32.02 | fcois | SIP |
| 13:32.07 | pukkita | I'm experiencing choppy audio when speaking to "analog" lines |
| 13:32.14 | pukkita | fcois: yes in SIP mode |
| 13:32.34 | fcois | choppy audio ? |
| 13:32.39 | pukkita | audio is fine with SIP ot PRI channels, but horribly choppy when a BRI line is used for example |
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| 13:32.43 | pukkita | yep! |
| 13:33.33 | jeanmiiii | I have an asterisk that acts as a proxy between the phones and another proxy |
| 13:33.50 | pukkita | like when speaking via cell hpone to someone without mobile coverage |
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| 13:33.55 | fcois | it is juste with ST2030? |
| 13:33.59 | pukkita | yes |
| 13:34.13 | jeanmiiii | [phone][asterisk-proxy][asterisk] |
| 13:34.17 | pukkita | and only when BRI is ionvolved |
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| 13:34.25 | jeanmiiii | phones register to [asterisk-proxy] |
| 13:34.26 | pukkita | SIP to SIP or to PRI is fine |
| 13:34.28 | fcois | I dont know |
| 13:34.45 | jeanmiiii | but the credentials for the authentication/registration are in [asterisk] |
| 13:35.02 | pukkita | just rolled back to .1.54 and everything fine |
| 13:35.04 | jeanmiiii | so, I wish to have [asterisk-proxy] to use [asterisk] as authentication/registration backend |
| 13:35.07 | jeanmiiii | is that possible ? |
| 13:35.54 | Slashman | I want to use asterisk with a ldap back end, with support for hints, is that possible ? and with which softphone is it better supported ? I need video and voicemail support too |
| 13:37.12 | [TK]D-Fender | jeanmiiii: No. * is NOT a proxy. * is a B2BUA |
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| 13:38.37 | jeanmiiii | [TK]D-Fender yes but in my case asterisk is acting as a proxy |
| 13:39.24 | jeanmiiii | [TK]D-Fender or imagine the following scenario : [phone][asterisk][other-vendor-PBX] |
| 13:39.52 | jeanmiiii | [TK]D-Fender in which case the asterisk is here to add some extensions/features to the PBX from the ther vendor |
| 13:40.43 | [TK]D-Fender | jeanmiiii: * is not a proxy. Doesn't matter if you view it as being "in between". |
| 13:41.28 | jeanmiiii | [TK]D-Fender ok let's put it another way, what backends can I use to register phones ? |
| 13:41.48 | [TK]D-Fender | jeanmiiii: * is a B2BUA period. Auth is done by *. You'v got base config files(.conf 's), or DB, but this is all on the the one the regitster to. |
| 13:43.17 | jeanmiiii | [TK]D-Fender, ok so whatever backend I shall use, all it will do is provide asterisk with the data (login/password) to proceed to the exchanges with the client for the registration, right ? |
| 13:44.08 | [TK]D-Fender | jeanmiiii: All you have is .conf's and "realtime". |
| 13:44.30 | jeanmiiii | [TK]D-Fender I am looking at a way to show a customer that even he uses SIP/TLS + SRTP, as long as the phones do not authenticate (mutual authentication) the PBX they connect to, the use of encryption is totally void |
| 13:45.13 | jeanmiiii | [TK]D-Fender, thus to mount the attack that will demonstrate it, I wish to use an asterisk (man in the middle) that will record the calls. |
| 13:46.19 | [T]an2 | so you are trying to hack the call? is that it? |
| 13:46.46 | jeanmiiii | [TK]D-Fender thus I am looking for something that would do the following: 1> client send REGISTER, 2 proxy send the same REGISTER to the other vendor PBX 3> asterisk forwards it back to the client 4> the client replies to the challenge .... (the remaining is prety straight-forward) ... |
| 13:46.59 | jeanmiiii | [T]an2 yes, basically that's it |
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| 13:47.49 | jeanmiiii | [T]an2 just trying to demonstrate to a client that mutual authentication is mandatory to ensure confidentiality/integrity of calls and signalisation |
| 13:49.02 | jeanmiiii | [TK]D-Fender also, what do you mean by "realtime" ? |
| 13:49.35 | [TK]D-Fender | jeanmiiii: ASTERISK IS NOT A PROXY. What are you not getting? Asterisk does not "pass" ANYTHING. |
| 13:49.44 | [TK]D-Fender | jeanmiiii: Go read the BOOK. |
| 13:49.47 | [TK]D-Fender | ~book |
| 13:49.48 | jbot | Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com, or see ~buybook |
| 13:49.50 | [T]an2 | how are you set up that someone could get that kind of access to where they could get the phones to hit an in between server? |
| 13:49.57 | [T]an2 | isnt that what firewalls and net admins are for? |
| 13:50.24 | [T]an2 | i would worry more that someone got a server inbetween my phones and my asterisk pbx than i would someone listening to my calls |
| 13:51.07 | jeanmiiii | [T]an2 how ? you ARP Cache poison you boss <SIP Phone and the gateway or PBX it connects to and voila |
| 13:51.29 | jeanmiiii | [T]an2 most attacks come from inside companies |
| 13:51.40 | ManxPower | jeanmiiii: ARP Cache stuff only applies to the local LAN. |
| 13:52.03 | [T]an2 | that is why i said this is a job for net admins. |
| 13:52.07 | jeanmiiii | ManxPower true, but that does not mean you can't exploit it |
| 13:52.14 | ManxPower | jeanmiiii: and most toll fraud comes from outside the company. |
| 13:52.33 | [T]an2 | on a good network with a good admin, that would be caught if it were an inside attack |
| 13:52.56 | ManxPower | jeanmiiii: I'm not saying that you should not be concerned with encryption -- just that most people using Asterisk do not care about encrption, or if they do they use VPN. |
| 13:53.08 | jeanmiiii | [T]an2 true, but from my exoperience I can tell you that aren't that many good admins |
| 13:53.09 | [T]an2 | in our network, the phone are all on their own vlan... only phone and the asterisk server can talk to each other. |
| 13:53.22 | ManxPower | [T]an2: that's what we do. |
| 13:53.42 | ManxPower | Mostly for ease of management -- traffic segmentation is just a nice thing in our networks. |
| 13:53.44 | jeanmiiii | [T]an2 and do you have any mechanism to avoid someone being in your vlan ? |
| 13:54.11 | [T]an2 | yeah... a good admin with a bad disposition :-D |
| 13:54.21 | jeanmiiii | [T]an2 what if I plug my PC in place of a phone and tag my packets with your vlan's ID ? |
| 13:55.00 | [TK]D-Fender | jeanmiiii: Post armed sentries at all of your LAN jacks. Don't forget the armoured division for backup. |
| 13:55.05 | [T]an2 | what if i beat the crap out of the guy whos calls i wanted to record... anything is possible... who is your client? the CIA? |
| 13:55.30 | jeanmiiii | [TK]D-Fender very companies do actually have such setup in place |
| 13:55.35 | [TK]D-Fender | jeanmiiii: Basically * is not that secure and all your attempts to do it will end up a pretty moot point. It was not built for what you're looking for. |
| 13:55.53 | [T]an2 | it would be pretty obvious in most environments if someone was doing something they shouldnt. |
| 13:56.19 | [TK]D-Fender | jeanmiiii: No extra auth, no "proxy", no real encrpytion. |
| 13:56.23 | jeanmiiii | our customers do not asterisk though, I am just using it as a tool |
| 13:56.32 | [T]an2 | what do they use? |
| 13:56.51 | jeanmiiii | [TK]D-Fender asterisk 1.6 does provide SIP/TLS though + with a patch you can add srtp |
| 13:57.07 | jeanmiiii | [T]an2 cisco, siemens, avaya, alcatel, etc |
| 13:57.38 | [TK]D-Fender | jeanmiiii: I'll wait till a short while after it LEAVES beta before even mentioning it. and "patch" means you'll be playing "catch-up" for a long time.. |
| 13:57.56 | jeanmiiii | [TK]D-Fender true |
| 13:58.08 | [T]an2 | If it were me, I would look there for a solution to your protection needs. |
| 13:58.24 | jeanmiiii | [TK]D-Fender buty as far as I am concerned, I am not using asterisk for production. I only use as a tool at work |
| 13:58.25 | [T]an2 | I am sure they have case studies to document their testing of security. |
| 13:58.38 | jeanmiiii | [T]an2 I am not looking for protections |
| 13:58.57 | [T]an2 | i get that |
| 13:59.05 | jeanmiiii | [T]an2 I am trying to demonstrate that vendors that claim ther solution is secure are actually lying |
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| 13:59.40 | [T]an2 | what i am saying is you are probably trying to do something someone else has probably spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on to test and document findings in a study of the same issue |
| 14:00.20 | jeanmiiii | [T]an2 sorry, I really don't get what you are saying |
| 14:00.30 | [TK]D-Fender | jeanmiiii: NOTHING is "secure". it is a relative state, not an absolute. You talk like you've got all the answers, so I guess you don't really need us for anything... |
| 14:00.38 | [T]an2 | i am saying i think you are trying to reinvent the wheel |
| 14:01.03 | [T]an2 | someone else has probably already proven your theory |
| 14:01.19 | jeanmiiii | [TK]D-Fender my job is audit security solutions, architectures, etc |
| 14:01.45 | jeanmiiii | [TK]D-Fender I do not really care about finding solutions that are securre |
| 14:01.47 | [TK]D-Fender | jeanmiiii: Well * isn't a tool for that. |
| 14:02.00 | jeanmiiii | [TK]D-Fender my job is just to demonstrate that supposedly secure solution are not |
| 14:02.07 | jeanmiiii | [TK]D-Fender I never said so |
| 14:02.39 | jeanmiiii | [TK]D-Fender to me, asterisk is only a tool I can make use to demonstrate things |
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| 14:03.06 | [TK]D-Fender | jeanmiiii: well given't how insecure * is from most POV's, not sure how that helps much. |
| 14:03.32 | jeanmiiii | I don't care wheter asterisk is secure or not |
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| 14:03.59 | jeanmiiii | security audit tools do not need to be secure as they are used to show that other software are not |
| 14:04.17 | [T]an2 | asterisk is not a security audit tool |
| 14:04.18 | keith4 | asterisk is a security audit tool? that's a new use |
| 14:04.50 | jeanmiiii | well, I just happen to use it as a security audit tool |
| 14:04.58 | [T]an2 | if you are showing that you can hack packets... shouldnt you be looking for some sort of a packet analyzer or sniffer? |
| 14:05.16 | jeanmiiii | yes |
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| 14:06.23 | [T]an2 | i mane, you are talking about reconfiguring a server... which should be secure enough to keep people out of... to get the phone to reauth somehwere else... plus chnage the configs on the phone to point to a new server... you dont think someone would notice all of that? |
| 14:06.49 | [T]an2 | people have a hard enough time getting phones to talk to the right server... let alone talk to the wrong one and the right one at the same time |
| 14:06.55 | jeanmiiii | [T]an2 using arp cache poising you not need to do any of that |
| 14:08.12 | [T]an2 | do you have people who can do that in your office? |
| 14:08.25 | [T]an2 | if so... hire them to work for you |
| 14:08.31 | [T]an2 | threat eliminated |
| 14:08.43 | jeanmiiii | I think you don't really get the point |
| 14:09.08 | [T]an2 | the point that I think asterisk is the wrong tool for you, yes i do |
| 14:09.26 | jeanmiiii | with very little knowledge, any employee can set such attacks in place and use them to spy on calls |
| 14:09.44 | [T]an2 | sure... |
| 14:09.52 | jeanmiiii | well, it is |
| 14:10.09 | jeanmiiii | imagine I have a network where phones and the PBX use SIP/TLS and SRTP |
| 14:10.11 | [T]an2 | but i can stand outside a door to an office and do the same thing |
| 14:10.23 | jeanmiiii | with asterisk I can sit in the middle using ARP Cache poisinging |
| 14:10.41 | jeanmiiii | as a result, the phone will try to register to my astertisk |
| 14:10.54 | bbryant | jeanmiiii: yes, but how are you going to understand the packets if they're using tls? |
| 14:10.58 | jeanmiiii | given the infiormation exchanged in the register packets, I can bruteforce the password |
| 14:11.07 | [TK]D-Fender | jeanmiiii: But again, * is not a PROXY. |
| 14:11.15 | jeanmiiii | bbryant I am using tls, the phones is connecting to me |
| 14:11.26 | jeanmiiii | [TK]D-Fender alright then let me finish |
| 14:11.28 | [TK]D-Fender | jeanmiiii: you can't "pass-on" the packets. |
| 14:11.30 | [T]an2 | but you said they could do this with very little knowledge... yet you cant figure out how to do it. |
| 14:11.36 | bbryant | right, brain lapse, i see what you're saying now |
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| 14:11.43 | jeanmiiii | given that I do not know the password for the SIP account of my boss |
| 14:12.10 | jeanmiiii | I arp cache poison my boss telephone and the gateway or PBX so that my phone's boss will register to my asterisk (which supports tls) |
| 14:12.24 | [T]an2 | http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:ZHSpbZCA2y4J:www.cs.sjsu.edu/faculty/stamp/students/Silky_report.pdf+arp+cache+poisoning+asterisk&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us |
| 14:12.32 | bbryant | that's a classic man in the middle attack though, it has nothing to do with asterisk specifically |
| 14:12.33 | jeanmiiii | once I have capture in the SIP debug the REGISTER packets, I have enoygh infoprmation to bruteforce the password |
| 14:13.03 | jeanmiiii | once i have got the password, I can have my asterisk to register to the other vendor PBX, then asterisk will act as a proxy (or such) |
| 14:13.17 | jeanmiiii | I will bridge calls from the phone to the PBX |
| 14:13.31 | jeanmiiii | and record them using an app like MixMonitor |
| 14:13.35 | jeanmiiii | this works fine |
| 14:13.37 | [T]an2 | you can detect and protect against arp caching. i refer back to the good admin |
| 14:13.51 | jeanmiiii | te only problem is that It is a burden to have to crack the password |
| 14:13.52 | [T]an2 | and the case studies already done on the matter |
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| 14:14.11 | jeanmiiii | [T]an2 yes you can but it is difficult and expensive and therefore many companies do not |
| 14:14.37 | [T]an2 | so are avaya and cisco swithces... many companies do |
| 14:15.03 | jeanmiiii | [T]an2 but actually you do not really need to protect yourself against such attacks, what you have to ensure is that the telephone uses encryption mechanisms to authenticate the PBX it connects to (as web browsers do when they connect to ssl websites) |
| 14:15.06 | [T]an2 | your comapny is only as strong as its people... hire a crappy net admin and have a crappy net |
| 14:15.23 | [T]an2 | wouldnt that be protecting against it? |
| 14:15.55 | [T]an2 | if you have to ensure things are set up a certain way, you are taking measures of protection |
| 14:15.56 | jeanmiiii | [T]an2 the thing is that it is not only related to good or bad admins, quite a lot of admins do not have the means to deploy protections against arp cache popisiong |
| 14:16.14 | [T]an2 | yes, i agree 100%. a vanilla installation/configuration of ANY phone system is vulnerable. |
| 14:16.50 | jeanmiiii | and quite a lot of admins are looking for us to demonstrate that it is critical for the company to invest in such equipments |
| 14:18.09 | jeanmiiii | basically, clients are asking us whether the solution they'e bought is securre or not (which mostly means: "can calls be recorded by someone inside or outside tyhe company") |
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| 14:18.12 | HuntsvilleAL | hello |
| 14:18.20 | HuntsvilleAL | are we all looking forward to another long & glorious day |
| 14:18.23 | HuntsvilleAL | of internet addiction? :) |
| 14:18.23 | [T]an2 | i get that... I am still rolling back to your previous comments... a user with very little knowledge can execute arp poisoning. However an admin with a lot of knowledge cannot |
| 14:18.31 | jeanmiiii | so if phones do not authenticate PBX and can therefore allow for attacks that lead to the possibility of listening to calls, then I have to demonstrate it ... that's all |
| 14:18.49 | ccvp | [t]an2 |
| 14:18.54 | ccvp | what's the talk about networking in here? heh |
| 14:19.09 | [T]an2 | I really dont think asterisk is gonna do it for you |
| 14:19.30 | bbryant | jeanmiiii: all the ssl support, at least in trunk, lets you choose a certificate authority to verify certificates which could be used to create your own authority for stuff inside your local network, and that would prevent any man in the middle attack created with arp caching |
| 14:19.34 | jeanmiiii | [T]an2 I haver already used it for that purpose |
| 14:19.50 | jeanmiiii | bbryant yes |
| 14:19.57 | [T]an2 | so i am confused then.... what are you asking from us then? |
| 14:20.04 | jeanmiiii | bbryant but the problems is tht some phones to not validate the cert |
| 14:20.06 | [T]an2 | if you have already done it.... do it! |
| 14:20.08 | ccvp | [t]an2, what's all the meaningless drivel going on |
| 14:20.22 | ccvp | hasn't anyone heard about encryption of high speed links at line rate without taking a performance hit? |
| 14:20.31 | jeanmiiii | bbryant like suers who click yes when their browser them about an invalid cert |
| 14:20.35 | ccvp | TrustSec |
| 14:20.40 | ccvp | jeanmiiii, read about it, and end the talk. |
| 14:20.42 | [T]an2 | ccvp: using asterisk as a proxy server to a cisco or an avya switch to hack calls |
| 14:20.45 | jblack | ccvp: Are you serious |
| 14:21.00 | jblack | You want to eat your cake, and have it too, and get an extra cake besides? |
| 14:21.29 | ccvp | heh |
| 14:22.01 | ccvp | secure handshakes can be established and the L2 path becomes impervious to sniffing |
| 14:22.03 | jblack | It's theoretically possible to have any two of those three. |
| 14:22.07 | ccvp | but the only asics that can do that are the nexus 7000 i believe |
| 14:23.00 | jeanmiiii | ccvp is that something that vendors deploy in their IP phones ? |
| 14:23.15 | jeanmiiii | I do not think so |
| 14:23.27 | ccvp | jeanmiii, what are you getting at |
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| 14:23.37 | ccvp | $$$ is a factor, people wont pay $5,000 for units |
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| 14:24.13 | jeanmiiii | ccvp then it is not a realistic solution |
| 14:24.38 | ccvp | what are you trying to get at? yo useem like a troll who is anti asterisk |
| 14:24.50 | drfreeze | Hello |
| 14:24.51 | jeanmiiii | oh no, not at all |
| 14:24.58 | [T]an2 | jeanmiiii: i get your argument 100%... what is it you are asking us for? How to make asterisk do this? Or how to get companies protected? Asterisk without a major project will not do it. even with a major project, you will be lucky to get it to do what you are after... |
| 14:25.04 | [T]an2 | what do you want? |
| 14:25.16 | drfreeze | My phone system started giving me some new problems yesterday |
| 14:25.39 | jeanmiiii | I was just wondering if asterisk could act so that I could shorten the 2 steps I described into only one |
| 14:25.50 | [T]an2 | not the way it is written |
| 14:25.58 | jeanmiiii | and as a result it does not |
| 14:26.01 | drfreeze | Reports are that outgoing calls can't be made. The details are that there is a dialtone, but after making the call, it goes silent |
| 14:26.04 | [T]an2 | maybe if you turn it inside out... but that is nothing we can support you on here |
| 14:26.23 | jeanmiiii | it could if I had the time and knowledge to change the source to do what I want to .... |
| 14:26.35 | drfreeze | I'm monitoring the problem now, but don't have anything specific to look for |
| 14:26.38 | [T]an2 | change the source=turn inside out... |
| 14:26.51 | [T]an2 | just write your own program intended to do what you are after |
| 14:27.00 | ccvp | jeanmiii, at major corporations with global phone networks, it can be done with a mix between dscp and mpls tags |
| 14:27.02 | jeanmiiii | basically, I was just asking whether asterisk could act as proxy that would another PBX as authentication backend |
| 14:27.07 | jeanmiiii | no big deal :) |
| 14:27.19 | ccvp | traffic enters the network it is tagged with a small amount of additional identity: information which is retained as it traverses the network |
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| 14:27.55 | gitguy | hi |
| 14:27.59 | ccvp | sox, glba, hppa are requiring this |
| 14:28.05 | jeanmiiii | ccvp so does that protect you against someone doing arp caceh poisoning between your IP phone and the gateway ? |
| 14:28.17 | [T]an2 | jeanmiiii: what is the risked cost of a recorded call? Or more than one? $5000 or less? What would it cost a company to loose one of these calls. if it is less than the cost to keep it from happening... their problem. if they cannot afford to loose a call to someone recording it... then money is no issue, is it? |
| 14:28.18 | jeanmiiii | probably not and it does not matter |
| 14:28.26 | ccvp | do you even know what your talking about? |
| 14:28.26 | ccvp | heh |
| 14:28.31 | ccvp | brb, more coffee |
| 14:28.50 | gitguy | the book says if i put [rooms] conf => 90000 in meetme.conf and 90000,1,MeetMe(90000,i,123456) in extensions.conf it will prompt me to put password, when i dial that number, but it never prompts me anything |
| 14:28.52 | jeanmiiii | what matters is that encryption be used properly and that phones authzenticate the PBX they connect to in ordet to ensure they are not being had by a man in the middle attack |
| 14:28.54 | gitguy | how do i set up passwords? |
| 14:29.01 | gitguy | in conferences |
| 14:29.17 | [T]an2 | it shows you in the examples in meete.conf |
| 14:29.20 | jeanmiiii | having said that, it was nice talking here (longer that I was expecting). I've got to get back to work now :) |
| 14:29.29 | [T]an2 | good luck |
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| 14:30.13 | ccvp | what in the world |
| 14:30.17 | ccvp | was that all about |
| 14:30.29 | [T]an2 | whew.... ok, now I bow out too. :-D " I said GOOD DAY!" <FES> |
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| 14:31.02 | ccvp | hmmm, was [t]an2 and jeanmiii the same person? |
| 14:31.09 | ccvp | engaging in a fake conversation, to make jeanmiii seem knowledgeable? |
| 14:32.07 | fcois | boring! |
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| 14:38.06 | fcois | aa50 |
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| 14:56.03 | keith4 | anyone familiar with GrandCentral? it screams "asterisk under the hood" to me |
| 14:57.21 | mog | ya keith4 |
| 14:57.27 | mog | but who knows |
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| 14:58.02 | railsmunky | does anyone use aastra 55i's or any for that matter? |
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| 14:58.31 | jackson__ | Any recommendations for nice free music files for on hold? |
| 14:59.13 | eric2 | server is in the e.s.t. timezone, have customers in p.s.t. timezone... how would one set the time to go out with the call so the time for the end user is correct? |
| 14:59.39 | [TK]D-Fender | eric2: "time to go out with the call" ? |
| 15:00.28 | eric2 | as it stands, some customers see wrong time on their caller id |
| 15:00.35 | railsmunky | just trying to work out the difference between the 'softkey pickup' setting and using a standard asterisk â¢8# sequece |
| 15:00.39 | eric2 | time is sent by the server isn't it? |
| 15:00.52 | railsmunky | obvisouly i'd love to use the aastra softkey |
| 15:00.52 | [TK]D-Fender | eric2: not in SIP. |
| 15:01.00 | eric2 | hmm |
| 15:01.23 | [TK]D-Fender | railsmunky: And what do you think this "softkey" is actually doing? |
| 15:01.43 | railsmunky | that's what i'm trying to work out. It doesn't send the asterisk sequence |
| 15:01.51 | railsmunky | ie it doesn't work whereas the sequence does |
| 15:02.06 | [TK]D-Fender | railsmunky: go look at the SIP debug and your configs. |
| 15:02.27 | railsmunky | yeah i'll give that a go - just wondering if anyone had come across it |
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| 15:02.46 | railsmunky | ta |
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| 15:04.17 | eric2 | ok, so I just set the time on my phone, it's 11 am, called it from my cell, and the call time shows as 7 am |
| 15:04.22 | eric2 | what gives? |
| 15:04.39 | eric2 | maybe its my linksys 2102? |
| 15:04.43 | eric2 | checks |
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| 15:06.13 | jblack | You probably set the wrong timezone on the linksys |
| 15:06.34 | fcois | someone can help me for a digum 'asterisk appliance aa50' ??? |
| 15:07.10 | [TK]D-Fender | fcois: Sure... Guess I could use one of those... |
| 15:07.13 | eric2 | yes, just changed it... had the wrong timezone in the linksys... :) |
| 15:07.14 | [TK]D-Fender | :D |
| 15:08.12 | fcois | In this asterisk appliance, there is a busybox as system, and I need to add the tftpd command to it |
| 15:08.24 | killmel8tr | lol, i had to read that twice to actually understand your reply Fender.... hillarious. |
| 15:09.10 | [TK]D-Fender | killmel8tr: Devil is in the details.... |
| 15:09.30 | fcois | I also have the uImage firmware but don't know how to munt and dit it! |
| 15:09.39 | [TK]D-Fender | fcois: you should go look for help on the distro it uses. |
| 15:09.56 | [TK]D-Fender | fcois: perhaps you should call Digium for support... |
| 15:10.35 | fcois | I call digium but, they never answer my email |
| 15:11.10 | Marquel | morning. what can be wrong if mysteriously a call can be transfered by dialing "1#<EXTEN>"? |
| 15:11.12 | fcois | and more, Iam in france and if he answer me, it is 5pm my days is finish !!! |
| 15:11.15 | killmel8tr | if you call them they will give you a ticket number for you to reference in all future contacts. |
| 15:11.34 | fcois | yes I have a ticket number but no news |
| 15:11.54 | killmel8tr | fcois: umm.... bankers hours???? that is not a reality in our industry. |
| 15:11.56 | fcois | I have a name and an email in digium |
| 15:12.55 | [TK]D-Fender | fcois: e-mail them again |
| 15:12.57 | fcois | no (I finish at 7pm ^^' ) |
| 15:13.07 | killmel8tr | I have "after hours" calls with devs all the time, they seem to work around the customers schedule. |
| 15:13.08 | fcois | yes again and again... |
| 15:13.58 | killmel8tr | fcois: copy mark s on your emails ;) |
| 15:14.19 | fcois | as if it change somethings :-) |
| 15:16.24 | fcois | I sent a other email ! |
| 15:16.27 | fcois | again |
| 15:18.32 | Uatec | hey, using the Playback command, can i play files which aren't in the /var/lib/asterisk/sounds directory if i specify their full path? |
| 15:19.25 | [TK]D-Fender | Uatec: yES |
| 15:26.30 | yang | What would such an error mean - translate.c:175 framein: no samples for gsmtolin |
| 15:28.48 | killmel8tr | my first guess(es) would be that a gsm codec was missing or you were trying to playback a bad (or empty) .gsm file |
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| 15:33.07 | Uatec | [TK]D-Fender, wooo, it's working, i was just typing it wrong... unique IDs are too long to have to type in to my phone :S |
| 15:33.09 | Uatec | ty :) |
| 15:34.18 | xacatecas | ok folks, i need an explanation ... scenario: [phone] -> sip -> [trixbox] => NAT'ed IAX2 => [switch (pure asterisk)] -> sip -> [provider SIP switch] -> who knows ... |
| 15:34.53 | xacatecas | ok, now the problem I've seen was this, the provider has what they call "onnet" ... as long as I dialed to it, I could hear them, but they could not hear me, and DTMF from me to them would also not work. |
| 15:35.03 | xacatecas | phoning through them to non-onnet would be fine. |
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| 15:35.42 | xacatecas | what would be the "check this first" type of things in those cases? |
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| 15:37.07 | mike345 | hi guys, the ethernet port on our receptionist Cisco7560 just went flakey.... they never liked the 7560 anyway. What SIP (or IAXY) phone is good for a recpeitonist? |
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| 15:38.51 | killmel8tr | xacatecas: Could [Switch (pure asterisk)] be sending its non-routable IP to your trixbox for rtp? |
| 15:39.28 | killmel8tr | I would enable rtp debug and then have them modify thier externip and localnet settings in thier sip.conf file |
| 15:39.49 | killmel8tr | and of course look at the sip messages |
| 15:40.07 | killmel8tr | and see how the rtp is setup. |
| 15:40.31 | killmel8tr | now i have not messed with IAX much but if I was using sip, thats what I would do |
| 15:40.42 | Kobaz | where does everyone usually get their 25pair rj21x cables |
| 15:41.18 | JayTee52 | Does anyone see an advantage to using a TE220P as a second dual span card when the existing card is a TE212P? I can't see one other than saving 40 bucks. |
| 15:41.24 | b11d` | Kobaz.. i make them myself, tediously |
| 15:41.28 | shido6 | hrmm |
| 15:41.30 | b11d` | nah I make students to it actually |
| 15:41.54 | Kobaz | yeah i kinda want to avoid the building part |
| 15:42.03 | mike345 | is the Polycom 601 a good receptionist phone? |
| 15:42.04 | b11d` | i honestly get most of my cables form cxtec.com |
| 15:42.17 | Kobaz | mike345: it's nice and sexy |
| 15:42.21 | b11d` | fast, good quality, low price, etc.. |
| 15:42.38 | shido6 | can someone look at line 3899 of app_voicemail.c , how would I check msg_cat value before calling ast_Variable_update() |
| 15:43.02 | [TK]D-Fender | JayTee52: .... they aren't the same interface. |
| 15:43.04 | Kobaz | shido6: isn't there an asterisk-dev channel |
| 15:43.14 | [TK]D-Fender | mike345: Splurge a big and get the 650. |
| 15:43.25 | [TK]D-Fender | bit* |
| 15:43.34 | shido6 | Kobaz, yes there is. |
| 15:43.58 | mike345 | 650 doesn;t look like that much more.... |
| 15:44.07 | JayTee52 | [TK]D-Fender, you mean one is PCI and the other is PCIx? I know, I have a PCI 3.3v slot open as well as a PCIx slot available. |
| 15:44.28 | [TK]D-Fender | JayTee52: seriously... READ! http://www.digium.com/en/products/digital/ |
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| 15:45.10 | xacatecas | killmel8tr, no, connection between them is IAX2. sorry (had a quick support call) |
| 15:45.10 | atomspace | ~cds |
| 15:45.11 | jbot | [~cds] Call Discconect Supervision is a service placed on analog lines to be able to signal you that that the calling party has hung up. This is typically done either by a momentary battery cut, or by a polarity reversal on the line. |
| 15:45.44 | mike345 | Polycom 650 about $270, well within budget. Is that "the best" for asterisk recpetionists? |
| 15:45.59 | [TK]D-Fender | mike345: How many phones will this person manage? |
| 15:46.13 | xacatecas | killmel8tr, IAX2 uses a single port 4569 for everything, and voice comes from them to me, and rtp debug on my side, as well as tcpdump shows that the data is flowing correctly. |
| 15:46.14 | mike345 | office of 150, but we all have DIDs |
| 15:46.19 | [TK]D-Fender | mike345: And will they be taking a lot of calls? |
| 15:46.22 | mike345 | 6 line ont he cisco was enough |
| 15:46.50 | [TK]D-Fender | mike345: Ok, here's the thing : forget about the side-car for BLF's for tha many people. |
| 15:47.08 | [TK]D-Fender | mike345: Aastra can support it, but a mass-page would nuke the phone. |
| 15:47.24 | [TK]D-Fender | mike345: as a phone, Polycom is pretty much the best. |
| 15:47.36 | mike345 | thx - that is what I wanted to hear. |
| 15:47.48 | JayTee52 | [TK]D-Fender, I already had that page open. They are BOTH dual T1/E1 cards. The 212 is PCI 3.3v and the 220 is PCI Express. That's the only difference. |
| 15:47.57 | [TK]D-Fender | mike345: for BLF I'd suggest a PC app (web or otherwise) |
| 15:48.17 | mike345 | TK-D-Fender - you've helped me before - thank you again. |
| 15:48.21 | [TK]D-Fender | JayTee52: and one said the EC was "optional". I'd double and triple-check that. |
| 15:48.27 | [TK]D-Fender | mike345: np |
| 15:49.26 | JayTee52 | [TK]D-Fender, yeah, I have to order either as a separate part number from telephonydepot.com if I want the Octasic module which of course I do. |
| 15:49.38 | JayTee52 | either card can come without it. |
| 15:51.08 | JayTee52 | Telephonydepot.com's price on the TE212 is $692.00 cheaper than voipsupply.com |
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| 15:53.35 | killmel8tr | I order my digium cards from .e4 technologies (8774e4voip.com) |
| 15:53.58 | killmel8tr | they discount most cards when you add them to the cart |
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| 15:54.19 | freezey | [TK]D-Fender: you around? |
| 15:54.24 | [TK]D-Fender | freezey: yup |
| 15:55.31 | freezey | [TK]D-Fender: i was wondering for a quick VOIP solution what i can do is grab a dell server setup asterisk grab one of those t1 cards put it in the back of the server ethernet over to a regular QOS switch and then hook up the sip phones from there...in theory this should work right? |
| 15:56.50 | freezey | [TK]D-Fender: and on my current avaya system i can just create a SIP connection between them just so it knows to push those certain exentions over to the asterisk box and then it can distribute them |
| 15:58.26 | [TK]D-Fender | freezey: Umm.. T1 != ethernet.... |
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| 15:58.38 | codec | hey guys. |
| 15:58.39 | TrentCreek | you would not need a server for such a simple setup like that |
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| 15:59.14 | freezey | [TK]D-Fender: well for the t1 card the t1 line will go down into that and then the ethernet will just go into a switch like normal |
| 15:59.22 | codec | anyone running asterisk on ubuntu 7.10? it looks like they forgot about bristuff. :/ |
| 15:59.32 | codec | (package descriptions says they're supporting it) |
| 15:59.37 | [TK]D-Fender | freezey: Please start over. You've over-abbreviated your description . |
| 15:59.54 | freezey | sorry |
| 15:59.55 | [TK]D-Fender | codec: * packages aren't supported here. |
| 16:00.28 | codec | [TK]D-Fender: guess so, but maybe someone's running ubuntu 7.10 anyway.. |
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| 16:01.52 | freezey | [TK]D-Fender: i was thinking of re-using a dell 1850 server.. buy a t1 digium card and run one of my t1 lines in the back of it.. and with the regular ethernet cable run that into a QOS switch... and then if its possible create a SIP connection between my avaya system and * so those certain extensions in * will be only handled by asterisk when the call comes from the outside... |
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| 16:02.41 | [TK]D-Fender | freezey: Sure I guess you could pump calls to your Avaya over SIP if it supports it, and treat some calls differently and go just to the phone. |
| 16:02.50 | [TK]D-Fender | (s) you have directly connected to *. |
| 16:03.01 | [TK]D-Fender | freezey: how many Avaya sets do you have? |
| 16:03.10 | [TK]D-Fender | freezey: And what model(s)? |
| 16:04.12 | freezey | [TK]D-Fender: my avaya phones are all crappy 5410's |
| 16:04.39 | freezey | [TK]D-Fender: i dont want the avaya phones to have anything to do with asterisk i want those to stay on the current system but just have asterisk handle certain other cisco phones |
| 16:04.47 | xacatecas | ok, i'm now totally stumped. |
| 16:05.12 | freezey | [TK]D-Fender: or i can just use a different number and completely rule out the avaya system which is what i am thinking |
| 16:05.16 | xacatecas | i've flipped everything that i touched in all kinds of weird manners and now it just stays on working :) |
| 16:05.28 | [TK]D-Fender | freezey: How many ayava sets? |
| 16:05.34 | freezey | [TK]D-Fender: about 50 |
| 16:05.46 | [TK]D-Fender | freezey: Ok, that adds up... |
| 16:05.48 | [TK]D-Fender | BBIAB |
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| 16:06.06 | freezey | [TK]D-Fender: ok |
| 16:06.12 | freezey | [TK]D-Fender: let me know when you get back |
| 16:08.27 | codec | mmh.. |
| 16:09.05 | SexyKen | asdf |
| 16:10.03 | SexyKen | Anyone seen this before "TRUNK Dial failed due to CHANUNAVAIL - failing through to other trunks") in new stack |
| 16:10.43 | codec | mmh, what bristuff version may i use for * 1.4.11? |
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| 16:13.24 | geek_cl | any smart person has connect a "Siemens Hicom 300" ? |
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| 16:24.29 | [TK]D-Fender | freezey: Anyways, the short answer is "sure" you can connect them up that way if the Avaya is compatible. |
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| 17:00.30 | linuxer_igor | hi, I have a big problem in my asterisk |
| 17:00.56 | linuxer_igor | he is lot my ram memory with cache |
| 17:02.01 | Qwell | linuxer_igor: I think you're going to need to explain that in some more detail. |
| 17:02.22 | seanbright | all your base our belong to us |
| 17:02.30 | seanbright | s/our/are/ |
| 17:02.33 | seanbright | hahaha |
| 17:02.36 | linuxer_igor | I need to minimize the cache size |
| 17:02.37 | seanbright | oh jbot... i hate you so |
| 17:02.47 | Qwell | linuxer_igor: cache is a good thing |
| 17:02.57 | linuxer_igor | yes but |
| 17:02.59 | Qwell | please explain what you mean.. |
| 17:03.01 | freezey | [TK]D-Fender: ok so my other idea is forget about avaya... i am gonna get some 800 numbers and just bring the t1 in for that and use those... so that should be no problem then right?> |
| 17:03.02 | russellb | what cache? |
| 17:03.08 | Qwell | russellb: ram memory |
| 17:03.12 | russellb | Qwell: oh, right |
| 17:03.17 | russellb | then remove some of it from the machine? |
| 17:03.31 | linuxer_igor | my asterisk lot my RAM and my server go down |
| 17:03.39 | outtolunc | giggles at 'yare' |
| 17:03.59 | Qwell | linuxer_igor: I do not understand what you're saying.. |
| 17:04.04 | seanbright | my sed skills are obviously lacking |
| 17:04.06 | linuxer_igor | look |
| 17:04.10 | russellb | looks |
| 17:04.11 | linuxer_igor | this |
| 17:04.12 | linuxer_igor | wait |
| 17:04.16 | Qwell | waits |
| 17:04.24 | file | levitates |
| 17:04.24 | seanbright | i think he's saying asterisk keeps eating more and more memory until his machine dies |
| 17:05.13 | russellb | asterisk dies? |
| 17:05.30 | russellb | oh, that's the problem right there! |
| 17:05.32 | seanbright | "my server go down" |
| 17:05.35 | russellb | asterisk is using memory! |
| 17:05.45 | seanbright | "server" is such an ambiguous word |
| 17:05.57 | linuxer_igor | look this |
| 17:05.58 | linuxer_igor | http://200.152.96.202/graph_image.php.png |
| 17:06.15 | linuxer_igor | this is my graph off memory |
| 17:06.23 | seanbright | its not coming up |
| 17:06.26 | Qwell | linuxer_igor: can't connect |
| 17:06.36 | seanbright | maybe apache lot your ram and server go down |
| 17:06.46 | *** join/#asterisk wichitalineman (n=svf@67.106.246.227.ptr.us.xo.net) |
| 17:06.55 | seanbright | don't mind me, i'm an a-hole |
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| 17:07.22 | linuxer_igor | again now |
| 17:07.43 | Qwell | you have 900M in cache. That is not a bad thing. |
| 17:07.48 | seanbright | linuxer_igor: what version of asterisk? |
| 17:07.50 | *** part/#asterisk dandre (n=daniel@was59-3-82-236-48-30.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 17:07.55 | Qwell | unused ram is wasted ram |
| 17:08.08 | linuxer_igor | Asterisk 1.4.19.1 |
| 17:08.35 | ac1djazz | whast the popular texting company that has that sterisk module available |
| 17:08.38 | ac1djazz | for US texting? |
| 17:08.49 | Qwell | linuxer_igor: please explain the problem you are having |
| 17:08.53 | linuxer_igor | the asterisk convert memory free in memory cache |
| 17:09.00 | linuxer_igor | ok |
| 17:09.01 | Qwell | yes, cache is good |
| 17:09.03 | linuxer_igor | so. |
| 17:09.58 | linuxer_igor | the cache goes increasing |
| 17:10.08 | Qwell | that is a very good thing. |
| 17:10.13 | Qwell | that is not bad at all. |
| 17:10.26 | linuxer_igor | and when 100% of the memory arrive + - |
| 17:10.52 | linuxer_igor | my server lock |
| 17:10.53 | Qwell | "cache" is filesystem cache. The Linux kernel is caching the memory to speed up disk access. |
| 17:11.10 | Qwell | If it needs more RAM for something else, it will take it from the cache. |
| 17:11.12 | russellb | is it too urgent? |
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| 17:11.23 | linuxer_igor | the CPU when 99% and bang! |
| 17:11.42 | Qwell | CPU or RAM? |
| 17:11.49 | Qwell | You are now describing 2 different things. |
| 17:12.02 | [TK]D-Fender | Qwell: Keyboard & chair ;) |
| 17:12.11 | JayTee52 | RUTOK |
| 17:12.24 | russellb | i suggest a hammer |
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| 17:12.43 | JayTee52 | very similar to a PEBKAC |
| 17:13.26 | linuxer_igor | do you understand mi ? |
| 17:13.32 | Qwell | linuxer_igor: no |
| 17:13.33 | russellb | no :( |
| 17:13.39 | linuxer_igor | ;-( |
| 17:14.00 | Qwell | linuxer_igor: You are from Brazil? |
| 17:14.05 | linuxer_igor | see you my graph ? |
| 17:14.08 | linuxer_igor | yes! |
| 17:14.19 | [TK]D-Fender | jsmith-teaching: Hey, do you know who's up here for that boot-camp in progress? |
| 17:14.20 | russellb | i think there is a #asterisk-br |
| 17:14.25 | Qwell | I think there is a channel #asterisk-br, with people who speak your language |
| 17:14.39 | linuxer_igor | look the memory graph http://200.152.96.202/graph_image.php.png |
| 17:14.48 | killmel8tr | I went out with a girl from brazil once, she was an exchange student and it was freaking awesome. |
| 17:14.54 | Qwell | you should ask in there, and if there are problems that need to be explained to developers, maybe they can help you translate |
| 17:14.57 | jsmith-teaching | [TK]D-Fender: I'm teaching the Huntsville class this week, and John Covert is teaching the class in Las Vegas |
| 17:15.05 | jsmith-teaching | [TK]D-Fender: It all depends on your definition of "up here" |
| 17:15.11 | file | jsmith-teaching: he means Montreal |
| 17:15.12 | [TK]D-Fender | jsmith-teaching: .... Montreal :) |
| 17:15.16 | russellb | teaches jsmith-teaching |
| 17:15.17 | Qwell | caio1982: ping! |
| 17:15.28 | [TK]D-Fender | jsmith-teaching: Wasn't a stretch you know. |
| 17:15.48 | [TK]D-Fender | jsmith-teaching: We met & all that. |
| 17:16.04 | caio1982 | Qwell: pong! |
| 17:16.08 | Qwell | caio1982: help! |
| 17:16.09 | file | unless you have a cool name like file jsmith doesn't remember you |
| 17:16.11 | [TK]D-Fender | jsmith-teaching: Usually takes years of psycho-therapy to forget me ;) |
| 17:16.22 | Qwell | caio1982: linuxer_igor needs help translating, I think... |
| 17:16.54 | caio1982 | oh, right :) |
| 17:16.57 | killmel8tr | this is the link he was trying to paste: http://200.152.96.202/graph_image.php |
| 17:17.00 | jsmith-teaching | [TK]D-Fender: Oh, the Montreal class! I forgot that it was this week... probably Claude Klimos teaching it |
| 17:17.02 | caio1982 | linuxer_igor: entra no #asterisk-br :) |
| 17:17.06 | Qwell | yay |
| 17:17.12 | TrentCreek | it don't work |
| 17:17.13 | Qwell | caio1982: thank you :) |
| 17:17.20 | jsmith-teaching | [TK]D-Fender: (Sorry, I wasn't even paying attention to who I was responding too... too much "bootcamp on the brain") |
| 17:17.21 | [TK]D-Fender | jsmith-teaching: Ah, fully off-loaded to Aheeva.... |
| 17:17.24 | caio1982 | Qwell: :) |
| 17:17.44 | TrentCreek | oops..it did..no wonder his box is crashing..with speeds that slow ;-) |
| 17:17.47 | jsmith-teaching | [TK]D-Fender: They're an authorized training partner. |
| 17:17.50 | [TK]D-Fender | jsmith-teaching: Saw a big ad in the paper... they're looking for CSR's :) |
| 17:18.05 | jsmith-teaching | [TK]D-Fender: Ah.... |
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| 17:40.10 | zeeesh | how to check ztdummy is installed or not? |
| 17:40.24 | ManxPower | lsmod |
| 17:40.30 | ManxPower | zeeesh: this is basic linux stuff. |
| 17:40.48 | ccvp | heh |
| 17:41.00 | gitguy | modprobe -l | grep ztdummy |
| 17:41.09 | Katty | anthm: i love call barge. |
| 17:41.15 | Katty | anthm: i'm keeping up on all the office gossip today. |
| 17:43.46 | Qwell | Katty: that's wrong on so many levels |
| 17:43.54 | Qwell | jbot: Katty++ |
| 17:45.23 | Katty | apparently the receptionist's grandson is quite ill, and needs anti-biotics. |
| 17:45.25 | zeeesh | WARNING[28415]: pbx.c:1720 pbx_extension_helper: No application 'MeetMe' for extension (incoming, 22222222,1)? |
| 17:45.33 | Katty | and after work, they're going to Wendy's |
| 17:45.46 | Qwell | Katty: wanna be evil? |
| 17:45.54 | Katty | i've also discovered, she says "redick uh lus" |
| 17:46.09 | Katty | Qwell: i'm a woman. |
| 17:46.14 | Katty | Qwell: my /nick is Katty |
| 17:46.15 | Qwell | so, yes |
| 17:46.19 | Qwell | later today - around 5:00...ask them to bring you back an X (where X is some random item from Wendy's) |
| 17:46.20 | Katty | Qwell: what do /you/ think |
| 17:46.31 | Katty | :x |
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| 17:46.38 | Katty | Qwell: no |
| 17:46.46 | Katty | Qwell: i will tell her i hope he grandson gets to feeling better. |
| 17:46.49 | freezey | just for testing purposes how does the IP Phone 7906G SCCP, SIP VoIP work out? |
| 17:46.53 | killmel8tr | I'm sort of addicted to the whole chanspy thing as well. |
| 17:46.55 | [TK]D-Fender | zeeesh: meetme likely didn't build because you only setup zaptel after compiling *. |
| 17:47.15 | caio1982 | Katty: that's a too politically correct way to deal with barge :P |
| 17:47.17 | [TK]D-Fender | freezey: Waste. Polycom > all. |
| 17:47.27 | Katty | caio1982: well i /do/ have to work with these people |
| 17:47.36 | Qwell | unless they quit |
| 17:48.03 | freezey | [TK]D-Fender: suggest one for testing on the cheaper side tho? |
| 17:48.06 | *** join/#asterisk Primer (n=vi@sh.nu) |
| 17:48.10 | Victor___ | Hello! Anyone using a Vonage ATA w/ X100M? |
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| 17:48.34 | [TK]D-Fender | freezey: Polycom is less expensive and better for your setup |
| 17:48.34 | freezey | [TK]D-Fender: how is this one? Soundpoint IP 330 SIP 2-Line Phone |
| 17:48.34 | freezey | Soundpoint IP 330 SIP 2-Line Phone |
| 17:48.36 | znoG | hi all. to authenticate an IAX user with md5, is it necessary to specify auth=md5 and the md5 secret in the 'secret' line ? or does it use md5secret like sip.conf |
| 17:48.46 | freezey | [TK]D-Fender: just for testing i am thinking about that one |
| 17:49.02 | nirz | freezey: i personly prefer the aastra one , speciely the 57i one... |
| 17:49.08 | [TK]D-Fender | freezey: Good phone. If you can spare the network port you can save $ and go for the IP 320 |
| 17:49.19 | [TK]D-Fender | freezey: www.telephonydepot.com |
| 17:49.32 | freezey | cool thanks man |
| 17:49.39 | ccvp | LG Voyager > * |
| 17:49.45 | [TK]D-Fender | nirz: I hated my 57i CT. Made me wish for my home's bedside IP 301 |
| 17:50.06 | freezey | [TK]D-Fender: the point of the second port is what? |
| 17:50.15 | Primer | So I'm trying to figure out how RTP packets are making it through my firewall. I have a Linux iptables box as a firewall just after our router in front of our network, with a default FORWARD policy of DROP, no rules for udp 10000:20000 or 5060, or rules for our outbound proxy, yet, RTP goes through just fine |
| 17:50.22 | Qwell | freezey: it's a switch port |
| 17:50.26 | [TK]D-Fender | freezey: pass-through to a PC. for places you don't have a separate jack |
| 17:50.38 | freezey | oh ok thanks i thoguht so |
| 17:50.41 | [TK]D-Fender | freezey: so switch > phone > computer. |
| 17:50.45 | ccvp | so did all of you enjoy your fatty Taco Bell for luncH? :( . . . . i only had half a pound of spinach leaves, with some sprinkled tuna fish chunks , and lite honey mustard |
| 17:51.04 | Katty | hugs ccvp |
| 17:51.11 | Primer | From what I understand, I'd need some sort of ip_conntrack to open ports for RTP on the firewall, yet no such thing was ever setup beforehand |
| 17:51.24 | Katty | ccvp: i had a lovely grilled chicken breast, with mashed potatoed and gravy, strawberries, and yoghurt |
| 17:51.29 | Primer | ip_conntrack that'd monitor SIP, that is |
| 17:51.37 | ccvp | "lovely" |
| 17:51.38 | ccvp | lol |
| 17:51.48 | ccvp | katty, do you goto the store, and buy: Beautiful Coldcuts |
| 17:51.51 | ccvp | haha :) |
| 17:51.55 | Qwell | Primer: don't use conntrack modules with SIP... they break it in new and wonderous ways |
| 17:51.59 | Katty | actually i don't like coldcuts. |
| 17:52.07 | Primer | Qwell: I'm not saying I am |
| 17:52.26 | Primer | I'm mostly curious as to how the RTP is getting through, when we didn't setup anything to explicitly handle it |
| 17:52.35 | ccvp | im starving though |
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| 17:52.44 | Primer | and our firewall is very restrictive |
| 17:52.44 | ccvp | but im trying to lose some weight, im 6'0, 192 lbs, i want to get to 160 |
| 17:52.59 | jackson__ | Primer, are you using something like shorewall to configure iptables? |
| 17:53.14 | Qwell | surely you have an ESTABLISHED,RELATED line somewhere in there |
| 17:53.33 | Primer | jackson__: no |
| 17:53.48 | Qwell | in some cases it'll "Just Work" |
| 17:53.56 | Qwell | (but not very well, or reliably) |
| 17:53.58 | ccvp | qwell why is that? |
| 17:54.01 | Primer | Qwell: I don't see how an RTP stream on port 10000 becomes related to a SIP session on port 5060 |
| 17:54.06 | ccvp | what specific line of code backs that up? :) |
| 17:54.12 | ccvp | "just work, but not reliably"? |
| 17:54.23 | Qwell | You send out a RTP packet. Any responses would be related to that, no? |
| 17:54.32 | jackson__ | examine the output of 'iptables -L -v' |
| 17:54.43 | ccvp | Qwell, can you give me a 99% confidence interval using an estimated regression equation to back your statement up |
| 17:54.46 | ccvp | using an alpha value of .01 :) |
| 17:54.47 | Primer | surely, but that presumes that the return stream is coming back on the same ports, no? |
| 17:55.00 | Primer | I mean, the default is for there to be 2 RTP streams, no? |
| 17:55.12 | Qwell | Primer: like I said...it wouldn't be very reliable :) |
| 17:55.13 | Primer | one from me to them, one from them to me |
| 17:55.25 | Qwell | but, it *can* work |
| 17:55.27 | Primer | which presumably can use any combination of ports |
| 17:56.05 | Qwell | Primer: these are outbound calls, I assume? |
| 17:56.13 | Primer | no, inbound |
| 17:56.22 | zeeesh | <[TK]D-Fender>: i gave command during installations "make clean" "make" "make install" "make config" and then "modprobe zaptel" and "modprobe ztdummy"? is there anything left? |
| 17:56.32 | ccvp | heh |
| 17:56.33 | Victor___ | Vonage ATA with X100P worked just fine.. X100M Yecch.. don't know what I'm doing wrong |
| 17:56.44 | Qwell | when it's "Just Worked" for me, it was outbound calls that did, and inbound calls failed. |
| 17:56.48 | zeeesh | using asterisk-1.2.18 and zaptel-1.2.25 |
| 17:56.55 | Primer | we register to our provider (teliax, in this case), and calls come in via our registration to them. That part makes sense |
| 17:57.09 | ccvp | zeeesh, get the 1.4 book |
| 17:57.12 | ccvp | it's white, with a horizontal blue bar |
| 17:57.15 | Primer | perhaps my understanding is flawed |
| 17:57.18 | ccvp | with a starfish logo |
| 17:57.24 | Qwell | Primer: NAT is...ugh |
| 17:57.28 | Primer | there is no NAT |
| 17:57.29 | Qwell | it's magical |
| 17:57.42 | Primer | it's just a stateful firewall on our network |
| 17:57.49 | ccvp | qwell, can you give me a null an alternative hypothesis, using alpha values of .05 |
| 17:57.52 | ccvp | that nat is "ugh" :) |
| 17:57.54 | Qwell | the asterisk box is also the firewall? |
| 17:57.58 | Primer | which is a standalone machine |
| 17:57.59 | ccvp | to show that nat is actually ugh |
| 17:57.59 | Primer | no |
| 17:58.21 | jackson__ | Primer, so your 'firewall' is just a screening router? |
| 17:58.23 | Qwell | then...it's being NATed |
| 17:58.30 | Primer | it's not |
| 17:58.35 | Primer | there are no nat rules on the firewall |
| 17:58.38 | Qwell | NAT doesn't mean internal addresses |
| 17:58.52 | Primer | the firewall is a hop on the network, between the switch and the router |
| 17:59.04 | Qwell | if the firewall is handling the IP of the machine of the Asterisk box, that is a NAT. |
| 17:59.06 | ccvp | sound like a router to me, but a hop to what? |
| 17:59.11 | Primer | it's not |
| 17:59.32 | Qwell | so, the firewall isn't handling that IP? |
| 17:59.34 | Primer | the firewall is not handling the IP of asterisk |
| 17:59.38 | *** join/#asterisk Goldfisch (n=gturnqui@158-147-54-92.harris.com) |
| 17:59.40 | Qwell | so then... |
| 17:59.49 | Qwell | there is no firewall |
| 17:59.52 | Primer | imagine it's a PIX |
| 17:59.57 | Primer | but, it's not...it's a Linux box |
| 17:59.58 | ccvp | pix outdated |
| 18:00.02 | ccvp | get a asa 5series imo |
| 18:00.03 | jackson__ | Qwell, sounds like he has an internet routable subnet behind his firewall - which is operating as a packet filtering router. |
| 18:00.06 | dlynes | Has anyone been able to get asterisk to play nice with mediatrix 2102's? |
| 18:00.06 | Primer | geez |
| 18:00.11 | *** part/#asterisk Goldfisch (n=gturnqui@158-147-54-92.harris.com) |
| 18:00.11 | Qwell | jackson__: which would be a NAT :P |
| 18:00.12 | Primer | you people have no imagination :) |
| 18:00.16 | Primer | sigh |
| 18:00.18 | Primer | it's not NAT |
| 18:00.23 | jackson__ | Qwell, no, it's not rewriting any addresses. |
| 18:00.35 | Primer | jackson__: correct |
| 18:00.36 | Qwell | it doesn't have to rewrite addresses to be a NAT |
| 18:00.42 | Primer | hence my mention of the FORWARD rule |
| 18:00.48 | jackson__ | Qwell, please tell me what NAT stands for then :) |
| 18:00.52 | dlynes | I'm having an issue with the mediatrix box not responding to asterisk's request to send a call |
| 18:00.52 | Primer | Qwell: uh, yes it does |
| 18:01.00 | Primer | well |
| 18:01.10 | dlynes | But yet, mediatrix does send a response |
| 18:01.13 | *** join/#asterisk mmmToop (n=michaelt@dsl-243-238-204.telkomadsl.co.za) |
| 18:01.33 | dlynes | I have a wireshark capture of the conversation |
| 18:02.19 | jackson__ | NAT is used to HIDE a subnet behind the natting firewall. Primers configuration is just routing (not hinding anything) while screening (packet filtering) out traffic they don't want to explicitly allow. |
| 18:02.29 | Primer | here's a scenario: teliax (ip 1.2.3.4) connecting to me (2.3.4.5) over the internet -> internet -> my router (2.3.4.69) -> my firewall (2.3.4.42) -> my asterisk box (2.3.4.5) |
| 18:02.45 | Primer | no NAT |
| 18:03.03 | Primer | remove the firewall from the picture, and it works just the same (after adjusting some routes) |
| 18:03.25 | Primer | anyhow |
| 18:03.26 | Katty | oh |
| 18:03.27 | Katty | my god |
| 18:03.32 | Katty | oohhh my goddd |
| 18:03.36 | Katty | Qwell: they're talking about blowjobs |
| 18:03.39 | Katty | Qwell: wtf |
| 18:03.47 | dlynes | Katty: *snicker* |
| 18:03.50 | Katty | Qwell: people should not be talking about blow jobs on my PHONE SERVER |
| 18:03.56 | Katty | tear. |
| 18:04.00 | Qwell | Katty: is there a policy in place? |
| 18:04.12 | Katty | Qwell: yeah. no snooping. lol |
| 18:04.15 | mog | Katty, why areyou listening |
| 18:04.26 | dlynes | mog: because she can? :) |
| 18:04.27 | Katty | Qwell: actually that's not true |
| 18:04.29 | unpaidbill | im calling johnny law |
| 18:04.32 | znoG | ls |
| 18:04.34 | znoG | oops |
| 18:04.39 | Katty | mog: their manager told me to keep an eye on them sporatically while she was gone |
| 18:04.46 | mog | I see |
| 18:04.50 | Qwell | Katty: I somehow doubt this is what she meant :p |
| 18:04.51 | Primer | the firewall's default FORWARD policy is DROP, has no rules to explicitly allow teliax (ip 1.2.3.4) through, or udp port range 10000:20000 (asterisk's default), yet, RTP magically seems to traverse it |
| 18:05.02 | Katty | Qwell: well they're telemarketers |
| 18:05.10 | Katty | Qwell: she wants me to make sure they're actually making real calls |
| 18:05.10 | Qwell | Primer: okay, but you do have ESTABLISHED,RELATED rules, correct? |
| 18:05.14 | Katty | Qwell: can you think of a better way? |
| 18:05.17 | Primer | and the only way I can explain it is if the distro magically has some sort of ip_conntrack_sip in it |
| 18:05.39 | unpaidbill | FlyboySR22:54: blowjob talk. 22:55: still talking about blowjobs 22:56: how long can you really talk aobut blowjobs for |
| 18:05.45 | unpaidbill | ahh autocomplete |
| 18:05.46 | Primer | Qwell: that would explain our outbound RTP stream working, yes |
| 18:05.46 | file | is it... Gentoo? |
| 18:05.52 | Primer | no, it's fedora |
| 18:06.07 | Primer | but does not explain inbound RTP working |
| 18:06.10 | file | (Gentoo does magically build that module in) |
| 18:06.19 | alrs | http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=12241 |
| 18:06.21 | alrs | crickets? |
| 18:06.23 | Primer | not without the appropriate USE flag |
| 18:06.25 | Primer | but anyhow |
| 18:06.48 | Primer | I'm presuming stuff |
| 18:06.49 | znoG | any ideas why sip.conf allows the setting of a md5secret and IAX doesn't? uses plaintext secrets |
| 18:07.12 | Primer | namely that there are 2 RTP streams per conversion, whose ports are distinct |
| 18:07.21 | Primer | is that wrong? |
| 18:07.27 | Qwell | Primer: not always |
| 18:07.48 | Primer | so one RTP stream could care both my stream out and their stream in? |
| 18:07.56 | Primer | s/care/carry/ |
| 18:08.00 | Qwell | no |
| 18:08.13 | Qwell | but the firewall could consider them to be related. like I said, it's...ugh |
| 18:10.04 | Qwell | it's certainly not something you can count on |
| 18:10.10 | bbryant | ~book |
| 18:10.10 | jbot | Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com, or see ~buybook |
| 18:10.18 | Primer | yeah |
| 18:10.27 | Primer | it's very odd that it Just Worksâ¢, so far |
| 18:10.39 | pacmanfan | is AsteriskNOW considered a stable solution? |
| 18:10.41 | jackson__ | Primer, do you have any iptables connection tracking modules loaded? lsmod |
| 18:10.47 | Primer | jackson__: yes |
| 18:12.17 | jackson__ | no you say that your default FORWARD policy is deny, how about the other chains? |
| 18:12.20 | jackson__ | er now |
| 18:13.29 | Primer | keep in mind this is not iptables on the asterisk box |
| 18:13.34 | Primer | this is a separate box |
| 18:13.44 | Primer | so FORWARD rules are really the only rules that matter |
| 18:13.59 | jackson__ | Primer, understood, but as I understood it, your question was how where the media traffic traverising your firewall. |
| 18:14.17 | jackson__ | darn my spellin' |
| 18:14.47 | Primer | yup |
| 18:15.01 | Primer | at the very least, how is the RTP coming IN |
| 18:15.25 | Primer | because, again, presumably, this is happening with an unknown (to the firewall) src port |
| 18:15.40 | Primer | src port on the dst host |
| 18:15.43 | Primer | bah |
| 18:15.47 | Primer | now I'm confused... |
| 18:16.02 | ccvp | primer, there's a good book that would help you |
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| 18:16.09 | ccvp | with firewall theory, and networking theory related to firewalls |
| 18:16.14 | ccvp | http://theciscocommunity.com/ |
| 18:16.15 | jackson__ | now, as I understand it, you're correct that the FORWARD chain should be where you focus your attention if the firewall is not the destination for the traffic. However have you confirmed that the FORWARD table counters are accumulating via iptables -L -v? |
| 18:16.19 | ccvp | then scroll down to "recommended books" |
| 18:16.24 | ccvp | Cisco Firewall Video Mentor |
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| 18:18.33 | ccvp | I'm waiting for vpls's to take off |
| 18:19.20 | fetcher | I have a couple of Polycom 501's where the blinking message LED (MWI) is "stuck" on, even after commenting out mailbox=nnn@context in the phone's sip.conf entry (and doing sip reload). Any idea what would cause this? |
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| 18:19.46 | fetcher | rebooting the phones didn't help |
| 18:20.12 | Primer | jackson__: well, there are counters that are incrementing, but that firewall sits in front of a /20 with 200mbps of traffic going both ways |
| 18:20.31 | Primer | and other machines on the same subnet (a /24) as asterisk, which is the counter that's incrementing |
| 18:20.53 | Primer | ccvp: I'll check that out. thanks |
| 18:22.25 | ccvp | It's biased towards adsm, and pix/asa gui's |
| 18:22.30 | ccvp | but you mentioned pix, and i assume 501? |
| 18:22.33 | ccvp | since your at home, not 515? |
| 18:23.11 | dlynes | Can you post capture files as attachments on the asterisk-users mailing list? |
| 18:23.37 | jackson__ | then I'd say you need to focus on the rules that you are ACCEPTing in your FORWARD chain... Something in there has to be allowing the udp packets through. That and what Qwell said with the connection tracking considering the rtp traffic as part of an existing or related connection. |
| 18:24.20 | Qwell | all it takes to become related is sending one packet to the host that's sending you audio |
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| 18:26.03 | jackson__ | Primer, I presume that you're not doing any egress filtering, and that the inside subnet can send whatever traffic it wants out? |
| 18:26.32 | Primer | correct |
| 18:26.49 | Primer | well, with some exceptions, but those don't apply to asterisk |
| 18:27.11 | Primer | like, our web cluster can go out tcp port 6667 (to prevent irc bots and the like) |
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| 18:34.47 | Travo1 | could somebody help me configure my asterisk. I am having issues once I installed the x100p wildcard fxo card. |
| 18:35.24 | dlynes | runs and hides from the dreaded x100p. |
| 18:35.51 | Nugget | heh |
| 18:36.14 | dlynes | omg...I thought Nugget was a bot with his telnet thingy |
| 18:36.38 | dlynes | and now i can't even make it trigger :( |
| 18:36.54 | Nugget | channels his worst asterisk nightmare... |
| 18:37.08 | Nugget | "Hi everyone, I need help. I'm trying to run trixbox with realtime patches on an eMachines server I found in the storage closet. I've got 40 users with a mixture of grandstream phones and x-lite (unregistered). I'm using four clone x100p cards I bought off ebay and I compiled a pirated version of the g729 codec. Can you help me set up fax over sip?" |
| 18:38.16 | dlynes | cringes in horror. |
| 18:39.07 | Nugget | what? I thought this was the support channel! I demand you tell me what to type to make it work! |
| 18:40.37 | Primer | jackson__: anyhow, since this all works, I'm just going to disregard it for now |
| 18:40.50 | jackson__ | Travo1, have you installed/configured the zaptel drivers? |
| 18:40.58 | Primer | thanks for the conversation everyone, Qwell ccvp jackson__ |
| 18:41.28 | jackson__ | Primer, good luck. sounds like you're on a nice sized network with a /20 and all. |
| 18:41.46 | Primer | yeah |
| 18:42.01 | Primer | we do web hosting |
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| 18:47.58 | smash- | could someone help me debug iax error |
| 18:49.24 | ccvp | wtf, i just caught someone modifying labels, and doing some boundary hopping on the lan |
| 18:49.27 | ccvp | lol |
| 18:49.33 | ccvp | vpn boundary rather, |
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| 18:55.41 | smash- | http://pastebin.com/m3b3fda89 |
| 18:55.51 | smash- | when i try and place a call with iax linked box it just hangs up.... |
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| 18:59.29 | whymarkwh | hi all |
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| 19:04.18 | ManxPower | ccvp: Sounds like someone will be looking for a new job |
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| 19:04.54 | mintee | what's the variable for the CID? |
| 19:04.59 | whymarkwh | i bought this phone all it says on the box is viop dont know who makes it, and their installation manual is crap, got it to work, need to know where one can find a more detailed manual for the programming of its keys, thats to say if you can program them, any help welcome |
| 19:05.00 | dhill | Do I need to purchase a g729 license for g729 to work? |
| 19:05.04 | mintee | ie; Called Number.. |
| 19:05.22 | xacatecas | whymarkwh, what does it look it? |
| 19:05.26 | whymarkwh | anyone used the AT-530 hardphone before? |
| 19:05.28 | xacatecas | dhill, yes. |
| 19:05.31 | ManxPower | whymarkwh: You would have to contact the company that makes the phone |
| 19:06.41 | whymarkwh | can't seem to find them at-530 is the useless manual that comes with the phone, with no brand on it and sorry its made in china |
| 19:06.43 | dhill | xacatecas: but if a sipura is using g729 calling another g729, i do not need the license, because it is passthru? |
| 19:06.54 | xacatecas | correct. |
| 19:07.26 | ManxPower | dhill: But that won't work if the phone is calling an IVR, Zap channel, voicemail, call recording |
| 19:07.30 | xacatecas | however, due to the nature of the asterisk codec negotation you're going to run into problems if you connect to an asterisk server and need to break out to the PSTN or some other non--g729 trunk. |
| 19:07.37 | whymarkwh | does eyebeam have the g729 codec ? |
| 19:07.42 | xacatecas | also, you can't do call recording, and a bunch of other things. |
| 19:07.47 | [TK]D-Fender | ManxPower: Or MeetMe. |
| 19:07.50 | ManxPower | whymarkwh: no free software has G729 |
| 19:07.57 | [TK]D-Fender | whymarkwh: Yes. |
| 19:08.19 | whymarkwh | no i paid for mine |
| 19:08.20 | ManxPower | whymarkwh: Do you mean the free eyebeam, or the commercial eyebeam? |
| 19:08.31 | whymarkwh | commercial |
| 19:08.38 | ManxPower | then it should have it. |
| 19:08.42 | xacatecas | dhill, if it's on LAN only and you have no need to communicate with "upstream" g729 then I suggest simply not allowing it. |
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| 19:08.56 | whymarkwh | how would i know |
| 19:08.58 | xacatecas | the only folks that uses g729 in general are the commercial voip providers. |
| 19:09.06 | whymarkwh | nevermind will go read the manual |
| 19:09.18 | dhill | i only use asterisk for SIP connections and voicemail |
| 19:09.38 | dhill | so voicemail won't work for g729 unless i get a license |
| 19:09.43 | xacatecas | no. |
| 19:10.10 | Qwell | you can record g729 |
| 19:10.29 | Qwell | you just have to have all calls use g729 |
| 19:10.40 | xacatecas | busy looking at a patch that dynamically renegotiates the codec ... so in theory i can get it to use g729 when communicating with external agents, but switch back to something else (iLBC/pcmu/pcma) if not. |
| 19:10.55 | dhill | our upstream provider uses ulaw, but i have a sipura user on 100kbps upstream.. switch to g729, so when they call, i get a Unable to find a codec translation path from g729 to ulaw |
| 19:10.57 | dhill | error |
| 19:11.14 | xacatecas | Qwell, yea, and have all the prompts ready in g729 as well. |
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| 19:11.27 | Qwell | xacatecas: sure, and we distribute them all in g729 for that very reason |
| 19:11.29 | xacatecas | dhill, what kind of pipe to you have that allows for you to use ulaw to your upstream provider? |
| 19:11.39 | xacatecas | Qwell, smart :) |
| 19:11.44 | dhill | xacatecas: two oc3's |
| 19:11.50 | jameswf-home | Here is an Odd question... is the tonezone for Africa UK? |
| 19:12.05 | xacatecas | Qwell, PSTN connections? |
| 19:12.19 | xacatecas | jameswf-home, where are you located? I don't know of a UK in Africa. |
| 19:12.19 | dhill | i also have a sip trunk to a cisco 5350 which has a PRI into it |
| 19:12.46 | xacatecas | dhill, then it does the translation from g729 -> ulaw for the PRI so you're fine. that device already has a license attached to it. |
| 19:12.58 | Qwell | jameswf-home: what part of Africa? |
| 19:13.02 | Qwell | and there is no such thing as "UKT" |
| 19:13.08 | jameswf-home | Qwell Zambia |
| 19:13.15 | Qwell | CAT |
| 19:13.23 | Qwell | Central Africa Time |
| 19:13.25 | [TK]D-Fender | jameswf-home: http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=zambia+time+zone&btnG=Google+Search&meta= |
| 19:13.30 | xacatecas | i can supply you with the ZA stuff, but I'm not sure that it'll work. |
| 19:13.31 | Qwell | worldtimezone.com |
| 19:13.41 | alrs | not time zone, tone zone |
| 19:13.41 | dhill | so my upstream provider is doing the translation fine.. it's just warning me that asterisk is not doing the translation? |
| 19:13.45 | [TK]D-Fender | jameswf-home: Absolute top seems to say you have no further to look. |
| 19:13.46 | xacatecas | [TK]D-Fender, _tone_, not _time_ |
| 19:13.54 | Qwell | ... |
| 19:13.56 | jameswf-home | ^^^^^ |
| 19:14.05 | [TK]D-Fender | hukt on fonix werk 4 me. |
| 19:14.35 | xacatecas | o.O ... fender - that looks a lot like afrikaans. |
| 19:14.38 | Qwell | jameswf-home: country za? |
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| 19:14.52 | xacatecas | za == south africa ... |
| 19:15.21 | jameswf-home | I have no Idea I m doing remote support for a brit in africa |
| 19:15.23 | Qwell | there's a za in libtonezone |
| 19:15.42 | alrs | I would guess that tonezone would have a lot to do with whatever phone system the formal colonial power left behind |
| 19:15.49 | jameswf-home | Ill try it worse case it fails.... |
| 19:17.19 | marc7 | hey guys, what would " exten => _XXX! " match? |
| 19:18.32 | Qwell | marc7: anything 3 or more digits |
| 19:18.50 | Juggie | Qwell ! means or more? |
| 19:19.02 | Qwell | it ends the pattern immediately |
| 19:19.16 | marc7 | hmm |
| 19:19.18 | Qwell | unlike ., which requires another digit after |
| 19:19.21 | ManxPower | marc7: ! is normally only used with overlap dial and only on outgoing ISDN calls |
| 19:19.36 | c0delogic | hi guys, is it possible to 'monitor' a video conversation and if not where I should start looking to possibly implement such a feature. thanks! |
| 19:19.50 | c0delogic | *should I |
| 19:20.03 | marc7 | yeah, I'm trying to figure out if this is in place to handle people who are only supposed to dial 3 digits |
| 19:20.08 | marc7 | but accidentally key in a fourth |
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| 19:23.43 | Ksilebo | Getting an Illegal Instruction when i try to start up asterisk |
| 19:29.50 | marc7 | ~book |
| 19:29.50 | jbot | Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com, or see ~buybook |
| 19:30.28 | tzafrir_home | Ksilebo, what CPU do you have? |
| 19:30.59 | anonymouz666 | when the internet goes down, and I try to Dial(SIP/blah@host) I got stuck. I can't even switch to Zap channel due this. anyone have a suggestion in this case? |
| 19:31.05 | tzafrir_home | Ksilebo, and anyway, it is SIGILL . That process simply didn't feel well enough |
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| 19:32.10 | Ksilebo | tzafrir_home: lol |
| 19:32.52 | anonymouz666 | I can't look for some DIALSTATUS when the internet got disconnected and switch do Zap channels. that sucks. |
| 19:32.54 | Ksilebo | tzafrir_home: I did some googling and its probably because I moved the virtual disk from VMware server running on a P4 to ESX running on P3's |
| 19:32.58 | Ksilebo | SO |
| 19:32.59 | Ksilebo | Recompile time. |
| 19:33.00 | tzafrir_home | Ksilebo, normally this is caused by building for the wrong CPU (sub)type |
| 19:33.04 | Ksilebo | Yeah |
| 19:33.17 | Ksilebo | I just need to figure out how to do it within PBX in a flash without breaking it. |
| 19:33.48 | tripps | question - is there an email to fax solution I can integrate with * where the * box faxes the document using software encoding where I don't have to have a fax card or fax hardware? |
| 19:33.52 | tzafrir_home | wonders what instructions actually got added in P4 |
| 19:33.57 | Ksilebo | SSE |
| 19:34.10 | tzafrir_home | SSE was there in P3 |
| 19:34.15 | tzafrir_home | SSE2? |
| 19:34.16 | Ksilebo | SSE2 then |
| 19:34.17 | Ksilebo | yeah |
| 19:35.05 | marc7 | in extensions.conf... is the exten => s,1,.... and then subsequent exten => s,n,.... entries a feature of 1.4+, or was it in 1.2 as well? |
| 19:35.20 | [TK]D-Fender | marc7: 1.2 |
| 19:35.42 | marc7 | thanks TK... having to tweak a production system quickly (bad idea, i know) |
| 19:35.57 | Ksilebo | Aha, nothign special to do to recompile everything. |
| 19:39.25 | iCEBrkr | [TK]D-Fender: Hey man, you do any work with RTCP reporting?? Trying to figure out how to tie the stats to a call... :-\ |
| 19:39.44 | [TK]D-Fender | iCEBrkr: nope. |
| 19:39.47 | iCEBrkr | :( |
| 19:39.52 | tripps | i guess my question is does spandsp allow me to fax docs without fax hardware |
| 19:40.16 | [TK]D-Fender | tripps: depends what you define as "fax hardware" |
| 19:40.18 | iCEBrkr | I think I can make chan_sip spit out the callid |
| 19:40.32 | iCEBrkr | and maybe the rtp struct has a callid as well? |
| 19:40.34 | tripps | [TK]D-Fender no fax modem or dedicated fax hardware device |
| 19:40.35 | iCEBrkr | hrrm |
| 19:41.00 | tripps | [TK]D-Fender I am connected to a PRI from the * box though |
| 19:41.36 | [TK]D-Fender | tripps: then yes, SpanDSP can fill that role |
| 19:42.25 | tripps | [TK]D-Fender awesome thanks! |
| 19:43.11 | [TK]D-Fender | tripps: for minimal use rxfax/txfax can do it, for the rest I'd suggest Hylafax. |
| 19:44.12 | tripps | [TK]D-Fender doesn't Hylafax require fax hardware? |
| 19:44.17 | unpaidbill | just faxmodems |
| 19:44.26 | [TK]D-Fender | tripps: Nope. IAXModem can do this. |
| 19:44.27 | unpaidbill | or you could use that IAXmodem |
| 19:44.49 | unpaidbill | hah yeah, i've used IAXmodem with hylafax/asterisk, it works extremely well. |
| 19:45.00 | tripps | [TK]D-Fender ok excellent |
| 19:45.10 | [TK]D-Fender | tripps: IAXModem uses SpanDSP to emulate a modem. The poitn in mentioning this is in replacement of rxfax/txfax. both use SpanDSP as the backend. |
| 19:45.23 | [TK]D-Fender | tripps: Just that Hylafax is robust. |
| 19:45.59 | tripps | ok great taking a look now |
| 19:46.29 | unpaidbill | have you tried faxing over vop fender? |
| 19:46.38 | unpaidbill | err voip |
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| 19:48.04 | Ksilebo | unpaidbill: I'm told it doesn't work. |
| 19:48.07 | tripps | unpaidbill i've done lots of faxing over voip - T.38 over IAX trunks and */SIP/PRI |
| 19:48.09 | Ksilebo | IIRC at least. |
| 19:48.39 | unpaidbill | and it works OK tripps? im about to give it a shot here |
| 19:48.43 | Ksilebo | Rather its more a "your mileage may vary" |
| 19:49.03 | unpaidbill | it's the main stopping point for us switching to voip, we do a TON of faxing in and out every day |
| 19:49.30 | tripps | unpaidbill no problem at all with T38 |
| 19:49.40 | unpaidbill | exciting |
| 19:50.36 | tripps | would recommend T38 hardware if you have a fax machine - in my case best mileage was from T38 modem to SIP gateway which bypassed * (1.2 anyway). I haven't played with * 1.4 T38 stuff yet |
| 19:50.42 | unpaidbill | what do you use to implement t38 |
| 19:50.45 | unpaidbill | ahh |
| 19:51.08 | [TK]D-Fender | unpaidbill: Thankfully no. |
| 19:51.09 | tripps | like mediant T.38 modem to Mediant 1000 SIP gateway for example. |
| 19:51.38 | tripps | SIP g/w had PRI interface hanging off it |
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| 19:53.18 | unpaidbill | well this is goign to turn out fun to play with im sure |
| 19:53.24 | unpaidbill | i hate faxing. |
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| 19:58.37 | JayTee52 | I'm using a cheap $30 SIP/ATA to route calls from a Zap FXO to a fax machine with T.38 enabled on the ATA and it works fine with * 1.4 |
| 19:59.57 | unpaidbill | what ata is that? |
| 20:00.27 | JayTee52 | it's a HandyTone-286 from (ducks under desk) Grandstream. |
| 20:00.37 | unpaidbill | haha |
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| 20:01.28 | gitguy | hi, i have 32 SIP users registered on my asterisk server |
| 20:01.37 | JayTee52 | I wouldn't waste money on their phones for normal business use if you want quality but if you have a few outhouses you want to put a phone in their BudgeTone 101 is a decent price for a shitty phone for a shitter. |
| 20:01.38 | unpaidbill | i wish asterisk supported t.38 fully so i could just plug the machine into my fxs :/ |
| 20:01.43 | gitguy | asterisk should handle the calls for those 32 users just fine right? |
| 20:01.55 | gitguy | in one instance |
| 20:02.02 | JayTee52 | 32 concurrent calls? |
| 20:02.06 | gitguy | yeah |
| 20:02.08 | gitguy | conferences and stuff |
| 20:02.14 | JayTee52 | depends on the server hardware and bandwidth. |
| 20:02.59 | JayTee52 | and conferencing, IVR stuff will have an impact on CPU utilization. SIP to SIP doesn't carry alot of server overhead. |
| 20:03.13 | gitguy | it's a intel dual core |
| 20:03.22 | gitguy | core 2 duo |
| 20:03.24 | JayTee52 | speed? ram? |
| 20:03.27 | gitguy | 2.13GHz |
| 20:03.37 | gitguy | 2gb ram |
| 20:04.15 | JayTee52 | full gigabit speed ethernet on the NIC? |
| 20:04.41 | gitguy | 11.8 GiB |
| 20:04.54 | JayTee52 | ???? |
| 20:05.03 | gitguy | that's what shows on ifconfig |
| 20:05.05 | gitguy | on eth0 |
| 20:05.54 | booray | speaking of dimensioning... i'm considering putting 16 PRIs in one box for outbound IVR only.. think it will scale? quad xeon, buncha ram, etc |
| 20:06.00 | Siya | rips out Zoiper |
| 20:06.05 | Siya | what a pile of crap |
| 20:06.07 | booray | using sangoma stuff probablu |
| 20:06.18 | JayTee52 | gitguy, I think you're looking at the tx and rx packet count size not the actual NIC speed. |
| 20:06.23 | mvanbaak | booray: that's 4 4port pri cards ? |
| 20:06.36 | mvanbaak | gitguy: try: mii-tool |
| 20:06.37 | booray | mvanbaak: either that or two pci express 8 port cards |
| 20:06.40 | mvanbaak | gitguy: or mii-diag |
| 20:06.41 | Siya | tries portsip |
| 20:06.50 | booray | considering costs, expandability, etc |
| 20:07.06 | gitguy | eth0: negotiated 100baseTx-FD, link ok |
| 20:07.06 | gitguy | eth1: no link |
| 20:07.36 | mvanbaak | there are 8 port cards ? |
| 20:08.21 | JayTee52 | even a 100 Full Duplex should be able to handle 30 concurrent SIP to SIP call setups even allowing for a some transcoding and any conferencing overhead. |
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| 20:08.58 | gitguy | when will i need more? |
| 20:08.59 | JayTee52 | I've seen one octal card from Sangoma |
| 20:09.01 | booray | mvanbaak: yeah, sangoma a108x |
| 20:09.37 | JayTee52 | it's got 4 ports but uses an RJ-45 cable splitter |
| 20:09.54 | mvanbaak | hhmm, not bad |
| 20:10.07 | mvanbaak | I dont think a box likes 4 4port pri cards |
| 20:10.14 | mvanbaak | they are real interrupt eaters |
| 20:10.25 | gitguy | how do i know when i will have to scale? |
| 20:10.26 | mvanbaak | so you dont want a shared irq/dma setup for the cards |
| 20:10.27 | JayTee52 | booray, I'd go with the 2 8-port PCI-Express cards |
| 20:11.13 | mvanbaak | yup, me too |
| 20:11.32 | mvanbaak | and get the cards with hardware echo cancel stuff |
| 20:11.42 | mvanbaak | you _DONT_ want to do that in software for that many channels |
| 20:11.47 | JayTee52 | and correct me if I'm wrong but the PCI-Express would be way less interrupt intensive per card as most of the signalling is PIO |
| 20:11.57 | booray | JayTee52: I agree.. I am just wondering about scaling of the software and stuff |
| 20:16.23 | jameswf-home | apparently UK works in Zambia |
| 20:16.43 | JayTee52 | talking loadzone? |
| 20:16.56 | jameswf-home | loadzone/tonezone |
| 20:17.14 | JayTee52 | that would make sense probably for them and Kenya, former UK "colonies" |
| 20:17.48 | jameswf-home | the guy described Allison as a western woman with a cheeky voice :)) |
| 20:17.50 | JayTee52 | wonders if the tonezone for South Africa and the Netherlands is the same |
| 20:20.56 | booray | brb |
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| 20:23.43 | drummond_ | can someone assist with me with building the asterisk addons? |
| 20:26.40 | [TK]D-Fender | JayTee52: as nice as PCI-E may be there is no point for the BW. PCI is far more reusable for the next while.... |
| 20:26.45 | [TK]D-Fender | GTG, later all |
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| 20:27.38 | dlynes_office | Is there a tutorial on reading sip debug headers? |
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| 20:28.09 | JayTee52 | dlynes_office, there a book from O'Reilly called VOIP Hacks that has a good section on it. |
| 20:28.38 | JayTee52 | using Wireshark or it's predecessor Ethereal as the tools in the examples. |
| 20:29.01 | dlynes_office | JayTee52: that's what I'm currently using |
| 20:29.02 | drummond_ | i am having an issue building the asterisk-addons, can someone help? |
| 20:29.11 | dlynes_office | drummond_: what's the issue? |
| 20:29.26 | dlynes_office | JayTee52: just having issues getting mediatrix boxes to play nice with asterisk |
| 20:29.38 | drummond_ | it just won't build, is there somewhere i can paste the output? |
| 20:30.03 | dlynes_office | drummond_: pastebin.ca/pastebin.com |
| 20:30.03 | JayTee52 | ~pastebin |
| 20:30.04 | jbot | [~pastebin] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste |
| 20:30.21 | jameswf-home | JayTee52: nl and za are way off |
| 20:30.47 | gitguy | ~book |
| 20:30.47 | jbot | Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com, or see ~buybook |
| 20:31.13 | drummond_ | http://pastebin.com/m5e8fedcf |
| 20:32.08 | JayTee52 | jameswf-home, didn't look in the tonezone.c file to compare :-) |
| 20:32.11 | dlynes_office | drummond_: have you installed asterisk 1.6.0 already? i.e. make && make install? |
| 20:32.27 | jameswf-home | neither did I |
| 20:32.38 | drummond_ | no, i have 1.4.19 |
| 20:32.39 | jameswf-home | zonedata.c :) |
| 20:33.13 | jameswf-home | kinda a cool read btw |
| 20:33.34 | dlynes_office | drummond_: asterisk-addons-1.6 needs asterisk 1.6, not asterisk 1.4 |
| 20:33.35 | Qwell | I swear I said that like...2 hours ago :p |
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| 20:33.48 | drummond_ | ah, there is a set for 1.4, correct? |
| 20:33.48 | bkruse | Qwell: You did. :P |
| 20:33.56 | xnon | hello |
| 20:33.59 | dlynes_office | drummond_: correct....1.4.6 |
| 20:34.09 | jameswf-home | I still dont get the correlation of za and south africa |
| 20:34.24 | drummond_ | ok....... :-D |
| 20:34.28 | dlynes_office | jameswf-home: zuid afrika |
| 20:34.37 | drummond_ | i have been beating myself up trying to get this to work. |
| 20:34.46 | jameswf-home | zuid == south ? |
| 20:34.57 | dlynes_office | jameswf-home: no idea...I'm not afrikaaners |
| 20:35.02 | jameswf-home | lol |
| 20:35.11 | xnon | i cant install a B410P Wildcard in a Server Debian kernel 2.6.24 i cant install zaptel with de "make b410p" command! anybody have idea for what? |
| 20:35.23 | dlynes_office | jameswf-home: but if I was a betting man (which I'm not), I'd say yeah |
| 20:35.49 | unpaidbill | hrm callweaver + IAXmodem.. possible awesomeness? |
| 20:36.22 | jameswf-home | ~wiki zuid |
| 20:36.32 | bkruse | Does the polycom autoanswer feature HAVE to be enabled in the xml file, or can it be used from the configuration file |
| 20:36.50 | dlynes_office | ~wiki za-tld |
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| 20:37.02 | dlynes_office | ~google za-tld |
| 20:37.45 | drummond_ | waht exactly does format_mp3 do? |
| 20:38.08 | jameswf-home | so the wiki page says neighborhood but when used in conjunction with a place seems to mean south |
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| 20:38.25 | xnon | anybody can help me please! |
| 20:39.00 | xnon | i cant install a B410P Wildcard in a Server Debian kernel 2.6.24 i cant install zaptel with de "make b410p" command! anybody have idea for what? |
| 20:40.11 | xnon | make[2]: se ingresa al directorio `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.24-1-686' scripts/Makefile.build:46: *** CFLAGS was changed in "/usr/src/zaptel-1.4.10.1/mISDN-1_1_7_2/drivers/isdn/hardware/mISDN/Makefile". Fix it to use EXTRA_CFLAGS. Alto. |
| 20:44.56 | JayTee52 | quittin time!!! later all |
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| 20:46.44 | logi4023 | my sip softphone is not generating call progress (ringing signal) to the caller. anyone knows what could be causing this? |
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| 20:51.19 | edwin_quijada | Hi! |
| 20:51.37 | edwin_quijada | I am buying a Dell Server |
| 20:51.37 | edwin_quijada | Quad Core E5310 |
| 20:51.46 | unpaidbill | high five |
| 20:52.00 | edwin_quijada | with 2gb Ram for my asterisk server for 36 calls? |
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| 20:52.10 | edwin_quijada | simultaneously |
| 20:52.13 | unpaidbill | easily |
| 20:52.13 | saftsack | hi, are some snom300 owners here? |
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| 20:53.01 | edwin_quijada | this hardaew can be? |
| 20:53.21 | nicox | i'm running more then 120 calls through a quad core server |
| 20:53.30 | nicox | so, i think there can't be a problem |
| 20:54.15 | drummond_ | once i get the asterisk addons build, is there anything special have to do after i modify cdr_mysql.conf? |
| 20:54.57 | mvanbaak | drummond_: create the database ? |
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| 20:56.09 | drummond_ | done |
| 20:56.18 | edwin_quijada | nicox: this calls amount simultaneously? |
| 20:56.52 | nicox | yes, ofcourse, and i think more are possible |
| 20:58.36 | edwin_quijada | Tkhs Nickx |
| 20:58.37 | CCFL_Man2 | anyone here use comserv on a unix system before? |
| 20:58.54 | logi4023 | what is 'adaptive cdr odbc' ? |
| 20:59.03 | logi4023 | whats the difference with 'cdr odbc' ? |
| 21:01.44 | [TK]D-Fender | edwin_quijada, we've had Quad-port E1 cards for 5 years now.... and you're worried about a new Quad CORE setup? |
| 21:02.08 | ctooley | adaptive_cdr_odbc lets you put data in CDR variables that cdr_odbc doesn't know about and it will put the data in the column with the name of the variable... ie: Set(CDR(foo)=bar) will put "bar" in the foo column. |
| 21:02.23 | [TK]D-Fender | edwin_quijada, actually.. more than 5 years, but it still proves my point. |
| 21:02.44 | drummond_ | do i have to specify in anything in cdr.conf to reference cdr_mysql? |
| 21:03.07 | [TK]D-Fender | drummond_, go read the book. there is a chapter on this. |
| 21:03.09 | [TK]D-Fender | ~book |
| 21:03.11 | jbot | Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com, or see ~buybook |
| 21:03.12 | [TK]D-Fender | ^^^^^^^^^^ |
| 21:06.22 | edwin_quijada | [TK]D-Fender: I think u confused the QuadCore that said is about processor not cards |
| 21:06.57 | edwin_quijada | I am worry abbout if this server can manage this volume of calls |
| 21:09.36 | outtolunc | edwin_quijada: fender meant that if a 'single' server of 5+ years ago could handle the volume of a 4 port t1/e1 card, then a current day quad core server should have ZERO problem <G> |
| 21:12.25 | xnon | i cant install a B410P Wildcard in a Server Debian kernel 2.6.24 i cant install zaptel with de "make b410p" command! anybody have idea for what? |
| 21:12.30 | *** part/#asterisk ctooley (n=ctooley@mo-76-0-41-172.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) |
| 21:14.03 | saftsack | xnon, a pastebin from the compiling terminal may helps |
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| 21:17.49 | alrs | xnon: which version of Debian? |
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| 21:18.42 | mvanbaak | if it's etch, it must be a hand compiled kernel |
| 21:19.01 | alrs | mvanbaak: not true, http://wiki.debian.org/EtchAndAHalf |
| 21:19.23 | alrs | mvanbaak: or half-true |
| 21:20.58 | edwin_quijada | outtolunc: OK! Thks! |
| 21:21.04 | gitguy | if there is only one end-point sounding like crap, what could it be? |
| 21:21.15 | gitguy | they are all using x-lite, ulaw/alaw codecs, etc |
| 21:21.22 | gitguy | his mic i guess? right |
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| 21:21.56 | mvanbaak | yup |
| 21:22.14 | gitguy | he says "it works fine on skype" |
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| 21:23.07 | [TK]D-Fender | edwin_quijada, as outtolunc helped clarify for you... |
| 21:23.44 | outtolunc | holds the que cards higher |
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| 21:28.41 | unbkbl | hello! i've a little question, somebody can tell me how to redirect a range of ports using iptables? |
| 21:30.36 | mintee | what's the variable for the CID? Called ID... I need to find the number that was dialed... |
| 21:30.43 | saftsack | the registration of my snom phone gets corrupted after about 2 hours. if i look into the asterisk logs i just can see "Registration from '"51" <sip:51@10.10.10.170>' failed for '10.10.10.102' - Wrong password" |
| 21:30.52 | mintee | and I can't figure it out for the life of me |
| 21:31.42 | unbkbl | hello! i've a little question, somebody can tell me how to redirect a range of ports using iptables? |
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| 21:34.55 | unbkbl | hello! i've a little question, somebody can tell me how to redirect a range of ports using iptables? |
| 21:35.03 | saftsack | unbkbl, #iptables |
| 21:35.07 | mintee | lol |
| 21:37.27 | saftsack | somebody an idea for my question? |
| 21:38.17 | dlynes | mintee: ${EXTEN}? |
| 21:39.48 | mintee | dlynes, yeah... I'm trying to make that work... |
| 21:40.14 | unbkbl | hehe thnx |
| 21:40.28 | drfreeze | When dialing out, is a busy signal the only sign of congestion (ie, all lines are busy)? |
| 21:42.12 | Nugget | you can make asterisk respond to congestion/all busy however you want it to |
| 21:42.28 | mintee | dlynes, it's just it seems I can't SET(THISVAR=${EXTEN}) then GOTO(othercontext) and read back from that variable.. |
| 21:42.53 | mintee | I thought the variables were supposed to be GLOBAL thru a call |
| 21:43.18 | drfreeze | Nugget: I assume the busy signal is the default |
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| 21:43.55 | drfreeze | How can I tell which phones are being used in real time? sip show inuse' doesn't seem to work |
| 21:43.56 | Nugget | mintee: check out SetVar() vs SetGlobalVar() |
| 21:44.19 | Nugget | but I admit I don't really understand what you mean when you say "GLOBAL thru a call" |
| 21:44.30 | dlynes | mintee: variables are on a context basis, unless set globally |
| 21:44.38 | outtolunc | he might mean var, _var, __var |
| 21:44.40 | Qwell | dlynes: no they aren't |
| 21:44.50 | saftsack | has anybody an idea? |
| 21:44.52 | mintee | no, i mean going from one context ot another |
| 21:44.56 | mintee | lol @ Version differences: This command is not available in Asterisk 1.0.9. Use SetVar instead. As of v1.2 SetVar is deprecated and we are back to Set. |
| 21:44.59 | Qwell | they exist throughout the life of a channel |
| 21:45.03 | dlynes | Qwell: no? ah... |
| 21:45.10 | dlynes | Qwell: thanks for correcting me |
| 21:45.43 | mintee | so they are "Global" |
| 21:45.55 | Qwell | no, global vars are something completely different |
| 21:46.02 | mintee | lol, ok, i'm reading |
| 21:46.19 | Nugget | 1.0.9? jeez. |
| 21:46.23 | mintee | is there anywhere better than voip-info,org for doc help? |
| 21:46.33 | bkruse | mintee: the book |
| 21:46.33 | Qwell | ~book |
| 21:46.34 | jbot | Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com, or see ~buybook |
| 21:46.46 | mintee | Oh right... |
| 21:46.52 | mintee | *sigh* |
| 21:47.33 | mintee | does "the book" actually have up to date info on predefined variables and such? |
| 21:48.10 | bkruse | mintee: If it is variables, voip-info is the place, if not, you have forums, this channel, mailing list, and asterisk itself (core show function CHANNEL) |
| 21:48.11 | bkruse | etc |
| 21:49.37 | mintee | Heh... yeah, it just seems voip-info needs a bit more moderation... You probally already know that though |
| 21:49.54 | mintee | I just wrote this http://pastebin.ca/1011123 just to see what vars actually contain something |
| 21:52.14 | drfreeze | sip show channels should show me the phones that are in use, right? |
| 21:52.45 | mintee | "should" |
| 21:53.08 | mintee | interesting...Set() worked this time... |
| 21:53.10 | drfreeze | I'm wondering if I'm getting congestion when there are really free lines |
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| 21:58.43 | gitguy | when will i know if i have to scale up? |
| 21:58.48 | gitguy | or how will i know? |
| 21:58.55 | gitguy | i have 33 peers right now |
| 21:59.01 | talntid | asterisk sucks |
| 21:59.12 | talntid | ... the life out of all other pbx's ;) |
| 21:59.23 | gitguy | all other pbx's sucks |
| 21:59.48 | talntid | :) |
| 22:00.04 | talntid | asterisk for prez |
| 22:01.06 | gitguy | asterisk ftwwwwww |
| 22:01.53 | talntid | mmhmm |
| 22:02.25 | talntid | i wonder how hard it would be to install asterisk on a classic xbox :P |
| 22:04.01 | talntid | meh, lots of info on google about it |
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| 22:08.01 | emmix-devin | has anyone any experience with tieing software to asterisk with TAPI |
| 22:10.25 | ajohnson | So I'm calling the System application in the dialplan and it is not waiting for a script to execute before continuing |
| 22:10.55 | ajohnson | It is as if it is being called asynchronously |
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| 22:17.07 | apocn | Hello, I have Asterisk 1.4.4 installed but and I can't find the mohmp3 folder. Should I download it from somewhere? |
| 22:17.20 | mknerd | I have an AA50 appliance, I am trying to change where the compact flash mounts, how can I make changes to ramfs.tgz permanent? |
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| 22:22.43 | Qwell | mknerd: that file is changed with firmware. |
| 22:22.50 | Qwell | You will lose any changes you attempt to make to it. |
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| 22:25.00 | mknerd | with firmware? |
| 22:25.11 | Qwell | firmware upgrades |
| 22:25.11 | mknerd | just to change a line in the /etc/rc ? |
| 22:25.24 | mknerd | I can see the file in ramfs.tgz |
| 22:25.38 | mknerd | I believe that is where it expands it from |
| 22:25.48 | drummond_ | i have asterisk addons built, and everything appears to configured, but cdr_mysql doesn't seem to be working |
| 22:25.58 | drummond_ | i not sure where to look |
| 22:26.05 | mknerd | did you enable that module in modules.conf? |
| 22:26.18 | mknerd | module load cdr<tab> |
| 22:27.06 | drummond_ | preload => cdr_addon_mysql.so |
| 22:27.31 | mknerd | load it with the CLI just to verify |
| 22:27.51 | mknerd | Qwell, why would firmware control the startup scripts? |
| 22:28.11 | Qwell | why wouldn't firmware control the startup scripts? |
| 22:30.10 | gitguy | whats the best way to store users on asterisk |
| 22:30.14 | gitguy | plain text, database? |
| 22:30.43 | mknerd | its just a text file, 6 characters I need to change, and your telling me that I have to re-do the firmware to do that? |
| 22:30.46 | drummond_ | i don't see the module listed |
| 22:30.47 | mknerd | thats ridiculas |
| 22:30.59 | Qwell | mknerd: a text file that is part of the firmware. |
| 22:31.27 | mknerd | well, if thats the case, ill just send this thing back, 1800 for a limited appliance is crap |
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| 22:31.45 | mknerd | the pika warp will be here in a few days, and it triumps all the hardware on the aa50 |
| 22:32.03 | mknerd | not to mention, i can just use nfs and boot from the server during dev |
| 22:36.13 | drummond_ | figured it out |
| 22:36.54 | mvanbaak | mknerd: why only boot from the server during dev ? |
| 22:37.06 | mvanbaak | get a netapp or something and always boot from the server |
| 22:37.07 | drummond_ | i had to copy the module from usr/lib/asterisk/modules to my * installation locatlion |
| 22:37.33 | Qwell | mknerd: /etc/rc.local |
| 22:37.42 | mvanbaak | we do that with our firewalls |
| 22:38.03 | mknerd | mvanbaak, there is not a server at the different clients locations, so that would not make sense |
| 22:38.03 | mvanbaak | they are soekris boxen without storage stuff. they all do pxeboot from a central fileserver |
| 22:38.03 | gitguy | how do you usually know when you have to scale up your server? |
| 22:38.10 | Qwell | erm /etc/config/rc.local |
| 22:38.15 | gitguy | or when you have to do clusters and stuff? |
| 22:38.36 | mvanbaak | gitguy: when your load avg is above 3 all the time |
| 22:38.53 | gitguy | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:39.00 | mvanbaak | mknerd: as long as the client location has inet access you can do that |
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| 22:39.10 | mvanbaak | gitguy: 0.00 means the box is 100% idle |
| 22:39.16 | mknerd | mvanbaak, no inet means no phones then? |
| 22:39.18 | gitguy | ok |
| 22:39.26 | mvanbaak | mknerd: only on reboot |
| 22:39.32 | mknerd | Qwell, is that an alternate boot |
| 22:39.36 | mvanbaak | reboot while no inet == no boot |
| 22:39.49 | Qwell | it's the same as rc.local on any Linux distro |
| 22:39.57 | gitguy | mvanbaak: i have 33 users on this asterisk box |
| 22:40.14 | mvanbaak | mknerd: it loads all stuff into memory, so as long as it's not rebooting everything is there |
| 22:40.24 | gitguy | only 10 peers were active today |
| 22:40.31 | mvanbaak | gitguy: yeah, but do a core show channels |
| 22:40.45 | mvanbaak | my bet, only 1 or 2 calls running, without transcoding |
| 22:40.55 | mknerd | mvanbaak, i would still need custom stuff on each CF card |
| 22:41.04 | mknerd | qwell, ok, thx, i will give that a go |
| 22:41.05 | gitguy | mvanbaak: 0 active right now |
| 22:41.28 | mvanbaak | mknerd: if you have a nice setup, it will use the mac address or something to load a specific set of tools |
| 22:41.37 | mvanbaak | gitguy: see, idle |
| 22:42.32 | gitguy | mvanbaak: yep |
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| 22:42.57 | mvanbaak | hhmm, /etc/rc.local sounds bsd like ;) |
| 22:42.57 | mknerd | mvanbaak, yeah, these IVR's have a ton of custom audio and perl scripts |
| 22:42.57 | mknerd | havent even got thinking about how I am going to put perl on it yet |
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| 22:43.27 | mvanbaak | mknerd: basically what we do is: |
| 22:43.38 | mvanbaak | boot all firewalls using a central boot server |
| 22:43.42 | wwalker | what is the actrual bandwidth needed for g729? it's 6,8,or 12 Kbits for audio, but how big is the IP overhead? |
| 22:44.00 | Qwell | wwalker: I think it's about 13k/s total |
| 22:44.00 | mvanbaak | boot all servers using a central boot server, and mount /home using a loadbalanced nfs setup |
| 22:44.07 | Qwell | including all overhead |
| 22:44.15 | mknerd | he said /etc/config/rc.local |
| 22:44.15 | mknerd | thats the ticket though, thanks qwell, that one saves with save_config |
| 22:44.51 | mknerd | firewalls don't have the need for storage like an IVR though right? |
| 22:44.58 | mvanbaak | â% stat /etc/config |
| 22:44.58 | mvanbaak | stat: cannot stat `/etc/config': No such file or directory |
| 22:45.08 | mknerd | no /etc/config/rc.local |
| 22:45.13 | Qwell | create it |
| 22:45.18 | mknerd | and it didn't exist, I had to create it |
| 22:45.22 | mvanbaak | did that on OpenBSD, Debian, Ubuntu and FreeBSD |
| 22:45.28 | Qwell | mvanbaak: config/ is an embedded thing |
| 22:45.36 | Qwell | usually it's just /etc/rc.local |
| 22:45.40 | Qwell | sometimes it's in init dirs |
| 22:45.42 | mvanbaak | embedded linux then |
| 22:45.58 | mvanbaak | because obsd, debian and fbsd embedded dont have it neither |
| 22:46.08 | mvanbaak | have a look at flashdist |
| 22:46.11 | mknerd | qwell, where does that execute in the boot sequence? |
| 22:46.21 | Qwell | at the end of etc/rc |
| 22:46.28 | mvanbaak | I think it's pretty specific to uclinux |
| 22:46.41 | mknerd | ive seen it before on redhat mvanbaak |
| 22:46.50 | mknerd | dont remember what version |
| 22:47.00 | Qwell | bbl |
| 22:47.01 | mknerd | im new to embedded however |
| 22:48.02 | mvanbaak | ah. I dont know redhat at all |
| 22:48.08 | mvanbaak | thank god ! |
| 22:50.10 | mknerd | its all the same to me really |
| 22:50.10 | mknerd | i mean, yeah there are differences, but as far as what i like, its much the same |
| 22:50.10 | mknerd | if only bsd would run vmware |
| 22:50.44 | alrs | mknerd: Doesn't Xen work on BSD? |
| 22:50.56 | mknerd | it does, but i really like vmware |
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| 22:51.10 | wwalker | Qwell: thank you. I found this though: G.729 with 20 byte payloads 26.4 kbps G.729 with 40 byte payloads 17.2 kbps both of which still fit in the 32Kbits of a friend's dial-up connection. |
| 22:51.31 | mvanbaak | vmware works on bsd |
| 22:52.40 | mknerd | mvanbaak, no, bsd works on vmware |
| 22:52.42 | mvanbaak | netbsd, freebsd and openbsd all have some vmware support |
| 22:52.51 | mknerd | yes, as guests |
| 22:52.53 | mknerd | not as hosts |
| 22:52.56 | mvanbaak | as host too |
| 22:53.17 | mknerd | well, unless your programming it in your basement, or something new has come out in the last few months |
| 22:53.48 | mknerd | id like to see some references |
| 22:53.56 | mvanbaak | ok |
| 22:53.58 | mknerd | cause I looked really hard into that one |
| 22:54.00 | mvanbaak | on openbsd |
| 22:54.04 | mknerd | links? |
| 22:54.14 | mvanbaak | cd /usr/ports/emulators/vmware |
| 22:54.34 | mvanbaak | make install |
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| 22:55.29 | mknerd | ok, I do see workstation has some support for openbsd as a host |
| 22:55.44 | mknerd | i guess we should get more specific, I was looking for vmware server |
| 22:56.00 | mvanbaak | that is crap anywayz |
| 22:56.43 | mvanbaak | IO is very bad, high probability of disk image corruption |
| 22:56.47 | mknerd | yeah, and so is Windows 2003 enterprise, but my terminal server alone pays me over $2000 a month |
| 22:56.55 | mknerd | and that running on a VM |
| 22:57.43 | mvanbaak | mknerd: if you can live with shitty io, almost no support for iscsi, hourly snapshots because of diskimage corruption |
| 22:57.46 | mvanbaak | you are fine |
| 22:58.03 | mknerd | havent had any trouble with it actually |
| 22:58.09 | mknerd | its been live for over a year |
| 22:58.13 | mvanbaak | try to stress it |
| 22:58.16 | mknerd | anyhow .. this is way off topic |
| 22:58.24 | mvanbaak | indeed |
| 22:58.24 | mknerd | why, its running great, no sense in trying to break it |
| 22:58.32 | mknerd | indeed agreed |
| 22:58.36 | mvanbaak | I'm off to bed |
| 22:58.39 | mknerd | thx for the help guys |
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| 23:01.02 | danZenie | hello |
| 23:01.15 | danZenie | I'm looking to buy a high availability astersik solution |
| 23:01.38 | danZenie | can you guys recommend a solution solution provider ? |
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| 23:01.56 | jumpie | sup |
| 23:02.01 | danZenie | I'm interested in becoming like a local reseller/rep |
| 23:03.37 | mknerd | im out, 7-7 is a long day .. until tomorrow everyone |
| 23:09.13 | x86 | danZenie: talk to Leif |
| 23:09.55 | x86 | Leif Madsen |
| 23:10.12 | danZenie | is he here? |
| 23:10.28 | x86 | one of the authors of "Asterisk: The Future of Telephony" |
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| 23:10.48 | x86 | he goes by names lmadsen or blitzrage |
| 23:11.01 | danZenie | ok thanks |
| 23:11.07 | danZenie | i will be back tomorrow |
| 23:11.09 | danZenie | gotta run |
| 23:11.13 | x86 | he runs a consulting company specializing in asterisk customization and HA |
| 23:11.48 | x86 | err thug? |
| 23:11.51 | x86 | wtf |
| 23:13.41 | whymarkwh | if you want to create yourown php(webpage) to link to your conf files, and be able to edit them and reload asteriak like in asterisk now where do you start |
| 23:14.07 | whymarkwh | asterisknow that is |
| 23:15.50 | CoaxD | Okay, what gives? Have a PRI configured 5ESS.. I need to send a facility message (an EECT request) to an Avaya Definity G3... Keep on getting MANDATORY_IE_MISSING cause back whenever i submit ANYTHING... Does anyone happen to have a workign facility request with avaya? |
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| 23:16.09 | wichitalineman | you need to look at the PHP functions fopen (and probably fwrite) so you can view and alter them. |
| 23:16.23 | wichitalineman | you also need to know a good deal about how *nix file perms work |
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| 23:16.49 | whymarkwh | *nix ? |
| 23:17.11 | wichitalineman | also, PHP is an Apache process... Apache tends to run as a user without permissions to read /write to /etc/asterisk |
| 23:17.26 | wichitalineman | *nix = one of many UNIX derivatives |
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| 23:18.38 | whymarkwh | wichitalineman: if i google it would would i type, meaning what do they call the process?? |
| 23:19.39 | wichitalineman | look for a good tutorial like the one at w3schools.com or .org or something |
| 23:19.51 | wichitalineman | fopen opens, fwrite writes, fread reads |
| 23:20.17 | wichitalineman | your main issue is security |
| 23:20.29 | logi4023 | calls to my sip softphone do not generate call progress(ringing signal) to the caller. Is there anything specific I should have in sip.conf? |
| 23:20.54 | wichitalineman | the webserver and its subprocess PHP can only read/write in a limited area... your * configs aren't there |
| 23:21.15 | whymarkwh | thx wichitalineman i mainly use asterisk as fax server and pbx on local lan's dont link them to any providers |
| 23:21.15 | wichitalineman | so you'll be tempted to run the webserver as root. Don't |
| 23:22.02 | whymarkwh | i take you have mastered the process |
| 23:22.20 | wichitalineman | i've mastered many of the mistakes :) |
| 23:22.37 | whymarkwh | lol |
| 23:22.56 | gitguy | it is convenient to store users on a db? |
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| 23:23.10 | whymarkwh | try try try try make coffee try try try make coffee reload buy a gun try try try |
| 23:23.10 | Mavvie | I have a very quick (and dumb question). |
| 23:23.33 | whymarkwh | shoot mavvie |
| 23:23.34 | Mavvie | SS7, is that the PRIs and BRIs I get from my telco or is that something else? |
| 23:23.48 | wichitalineman | poke around via the AsteriskNOW command line... see what the perms are in /etc/asterisk and /var/httpd (Apache's home generally, possibly /etc/httpd) |
| 23:24.31 | wichitalineman | /var/httpd will probably have the html and php files... I'd just borrow it all wholesale and make it work |
| 23:25.08 | wichitalineman | whymarkwh: ask me off-line and I'll try to help. I've done lots of weird Apache stuff |
| 23:25.30 | whymarkwh | do you perhaps know what the users.conf is for? |
| 23:26.09 | whymarkwh | what do you mean by off-line? |
| 23:26.37 | whymarkwh | where did you get the ss7 mavvie |
| 23:26.39 | whymarkwh | ? |
| 23:27.16 | wichitalineman | oh. not here in channel. we're already bugging someone... |
| 23:27.30 | whymarkwh | k |
| 23:27.44 | Mavvie | whymarkwh: it was asked this morning in an interview, and I'm not sure if I gave the right answer by saying that I've done PRI debugging with the telco technicians while there were problems at the rollout of the service. |
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| 23:28.48 | whymarkwh | in south africa we have a ss71 form for isdn pri and bri, licence to install on our telko if that helps |
| 23:29.00 | Mavvie | ah, seems that SS7 is the whole protocol stack. |
| 23:29.20 | Mavvie | well, their loss if I don't get it. |
| 23:29.41 | whymarkwh | true optimism can't go wrong |
| 23:30.03 | whymarkwh | how does one go ofline? |
| 23:30.35 | wichitalineman | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:49.50 | DragoraN | hi |
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| 23:50.55 | DragoraN | my voip provider allows to change my outbound number, it is defined after slash yyyyyyy:xxxxxxxx@sip1.gtsnextra.sk/<my number i want>, can i modify it at runtime by setting something before making call? |
| 23:58.14 | gitguy | damn i have to write "docs" now for my asterisk users :S |
