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| 00:02.19 | siya | erm, what determines if an extension shows up as a channel? |
| 00:02.42 | siya | my cisco 7960 shows up in sip show channels (it has three lines active) |
| 00:03.56 | siya | let me rephrase that |
| 00:04.10 | siya | what the heck does sip show channels show me? |
| 00:04.16 | siya | heads for google |
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| 00:15.03 | siya | slaps himself around for a bit for not googling first |
| 00:15.32 | siya | Right back to figuring out why sipgate is doing the same thing as talkin2ya |
| 00:15.53 | siya | anyone else out there with multiple sip accounts from the same provider? |
| 00:16.17 | Dovid | siya. what is the issue with multiple accounts ? |
| 00:16.55 | siya | all inbound calls come into the last registered trunk |
| 00:17.01 | siya | 'trunk' |
| 00:17.25 | Dovid | in ur register statement u cna break it up with /some_extension_in_general_context |
| 00:17.30 | Dovid | so u route the calls to specific places |
| 00:18.05 | siya | I though 'fromuser' did as much |
| 00:20.14 | Dovid | dont think so. thats just info on ur account |
| 00:20.33 | Dovid | if u have: register 123:456@provider/5555 |
| 00:20.52 | Dovid | then when a call comes in it will go to extension 5555 in the default sip context |
| 00:21.00 | Dovid | oops |
| 00:21.03 | Dovid | register => 123:456@provider/5555 |
| 00:21.17 | siya | ahh ic |
| 00:21.37 | Dovid | this way u can direct dif. reg. do dif. extensions |
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| 00:46.51 | jameswf-home | yum install -y $(yum list) |
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| 01:00.07 | plik | reminds Europeans to put the clocks forward for summertime |
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| 01:03.23 | siya | plik: eek, my PDA just told me. It's now not just late but really late... :s |
| 01:04.48 | siya | Dovid: that doesn't help me if the register is in a different context |
| 01:04.55 | siya | :( |
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| 01:09.49 | jameswf-home | ~DST |
| 01:09.49 | jbot | dst is, like, Daylight Savings Time. In US/Europe, clocks \"spring forward\" 1 hour at 0200 localtime on the FIRST Sunday in April. They \"fall back\" 1 hour at 0200 localtime on the LAST Sunday in October. Ask me about \"est\". |
| 01:10.09 | jameswf-home | ~est |
| 01:10.10 | jbot | rumour has it, est is Eastern Standard Time, but if you're outside of Indiana you probably need to use EST5EDT instead, or US/Eastern, or (use the tzconfig program to do this) |
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| 01:11.41 | hesco | I'm trying to write a dialplan which will initiate a conference call, from the server, w/o requiring folks to dial in to it. This is what I've got so far: http://pastebin.com/d752aa0d7 |
| 01:12.10 | siya | ooh, bed time |
| 01:12.13 | siya | way too late |
| 01:12.49 | hesco | It dials the number in the .call file, and creates a MeetMe conference, but it never dials the second number, although it does prompt me to record my name, accepts the recording and then waits until I hang up. |
| 01:13.08 | hesco | What is it, pray tell, which I may be missing here? |
| 01:13.20 | hesco | How do I move this forward, please? |
| 01:20.43 | russellb | hmm ... |
| 01:20.44 | russellb | looks |
| 01:21.33 | russellb | yeah, that's not quite going t work. |
| 01:21.50 | russellb | You will need to use 2 call files to connect 2 callers into MeetMe. |
| 01:22.15 | russellb | The first caller (770-765-1543) executes the dialplan and gets to MeetMe ... |
| 01:22.33 | russellb | and then stays there, and the Dial never happens |
| 01:22.51 | russellb | you will need to remove the stuff after MeetMe |
| 01:22.59 | russellb | and use another call file that does the same thing for the 2nd number |
| 01:23.06 | russellb | hesco: ^^^ |
| 01:26.21 | hesco | russellb: thanks. Trying that now. |
| 01:27.55 | russellb | ok |
| 01:32.39 | jameswf-home | godaddy is giving away .info names .99 ea must not be popular |
| 01:33.16 | hesco | russellb: http://pastebin.com/d402e876 |
| 01:34.34 | russellb | hesco: appears to be working? |
| 01:35.09 | hesco | It made the first call, put me in the conference, then made I initiated the second call, but my cell never rang, and it was quiet on the line, but then I eventually heard my cell phone's voicemail's outgoing and it seems to have connected the two calls. So I hung up the home line, but now the connection to my cell phone's voicemail is still hanging on. How do I disconnect it now? |
| 01:36.05 | hesco | never mind. It looks like it timed out or something. |
| 01:36.09 | hesco | . |
| 01:36.51 | russellb | normally you would use the "soft hangup" CLI command |
| 01:37.00 | russellb | so it sounds like it was a cell phone issue ... |
| 01:37.16 | hesco | I think you are right there. |
| 01:38.55 | loompek | [Mar 30 03:33:58] WARNING[20555]: chan_sip.c:1949 retrans_pkt: Maximum retries exceeded on transmission 6cb7035e198480851d0c1ef156608157@192.168.5.2 for seqno 13 (Critical Response) |
| 01:39.02 | loompek | this prolly aint good huh? |
| 01:39.10 | jameswf-home | 300 gigs of transfer a month... .99 start sweet.. |
| 01:42.59 | hesco | russellb: My housemate's cell was more cooperative. It successfull made the bridge, there was some delay, I think the pros might call it latency, perhaps? But we got two connections on the bridge. I guess I'm ready for the next test. |
| 01:43.22 | hesco | Thanks for your help. |
| 01:43.35 | russellb | hesco: great, you're quire welcome |
| 01:43.39 | russellb | s/quire/quite/ |
| 01:43.45 | russellb | kicks his keyboard |
| 01:44.43 | *** topic/#asterisk by russellb -> Asterisk: The Open Source PBX and Telephony Platform (asterisk.org) -=- Asterisk 1.4.18.1, 1.2.27 (2008/03/18) 1.4.19-rc4 (2008/03/28), 1.6.0-beta7.1 (2008/03/29), *-Addons 1.4.6, 1.6.0-beta2 (2008/02/21), Zaptel 1.4.9.2 (2008/02/28), Libpri 1.4.3 (2007/12/13) -=- #asterisknow or #asterisk-gui for AsteriskNOW (asterisknow.org) -=- #switchvox for Switchvox (switchvox.com) -=- #freepbx for FreePBX/trixbox -=- Beware of |
| 01:47.16 | hesco | russellb: how do you get it to say that you kicked your keyboard. Although I've been using IRC for years, I've never figured out how to make a chennel talk about me in the third person. |
| 01:48.13 | *** topic/#asterisk by russellb -> Asterisk: The Open Source PBX and Telephony Platform (asterisk.org) -=- Asterisk 1.4.18.1, 1.2.27 (2008/03/18) 1.4.19-rc4 (2008/03/28), 1.6.0-beta7.1 (2008/03/29), *-Addons 1.4.6, 1.6.0-beta2 (2008/02/21), Zaptel 1.4.9.2 (2008/02/28), Libpri 1.4.3 (2007/12/13) -=- #asterisknow or #asterisk-gui for AsteriskNOW (asterisknow.org) -=- #switchvox for Switchvox (switchvox.com) -=- #freepbx for FreePBX/trixbox |
| 01:48.19 | russellb | hesco: "/me does something" |
| 01:48.34 | hesco | appredciates the pointer |
| 01:48.42 | hesco | got it. Thanks. |
| 01:49.47 | hesco | jmhunter: are you here? |
| 01:49.57 | hesco | Might you be Jane from New Jersey? |
| 01:50.41 | russellb | you should also check out "/msg" :) |
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| 02:09.43 | hesco | ok, just did. Thanks. |
| 02:11.07 | drmessano | punches his chest and disappears |
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| 02:23.58 | bluregard | how can I tell asterisk not to use the console so it doesn't grab hold of /dev/dsp |
| 02:26.58 | russellb | bluregard: don't load chan_oss, chan_alsa, or chan_console |
| 02:27.07 | russellb | you can ask asterisk to not load them by adding a few lines in /etc/asterisk/modules.conf |
| 02:27.41 | rickross | russellb: do you know how to get asterisk-addons to build with the DONT_OPTIMIZE and MALLOC_DEBUG compiler options required to run with valgrind? |
| 02:28.04 | rickross | menuselect makes those easy for asterisk, but not for asterisk-addons |
| 02:28.48 | bluregard | russellb, thank you |
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| 02:41.23 | russellb | rickross: asterisk-addons will (should) get compiled with the same options you used to compile the version of asterisk that is currently installed |
| 02:41.41 | rickross | we agree, it "should" :) |
| 02:41.43 | russellb | using the contents of /usr/include/asterisk/buildopts.h |
| 02:42.07 | rickross | but apparently that may not be strictly true |
| 02:42.24 | russellb | and if they _aren't_ built with the same options, asterisk will complain when it loads the modules to tell you |
| 02:42.27 | rickross | for example, the cdr addon barfs royally |
| 02:42.50 | joe | anyknow know how to get a label on soft 25 on polycom 301? I can get it to run the messages function/app but I can't get a label to show up for the key so only <key key.IP_300.25.function.prim="Messages" /> works right now |
| 02:42.51 | rickross | and I think there are other problems - this is all somewhat deeper in nuts and blts than I especially wanna be |
| 02:45.23 | rickross | but I think the MALLOC_DEBUG doesn't get reliably carried through, and I'm not sure that the other compiler options are set correctly |
| 02:46.03 | rickross | I know that I cannot run successfully when I build asterisk-addons after building asterisk with the settings required for valgrind - that much is for sure |
| 02:56.34 | rickross | russellb: here's a bug posting from another guy who had problems in the same general area with asterisk-addons - http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=11291 |
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| 03:13.22 | kamitodo | is someone here using a gizmo account (proxy01.sipphone.com) for incoming calls? |
| 03:13.32 | lmadsen | gizmo sucks |
| 03:13.39 | kamitodo | why? |
| 03:13.41 | lmadsen | that is all |
| 03:14.03 | mkillebrew | heh... |
| 03:14.04 | kamitodo | that's all? great. |
| 03:14.13 | Nivex | I've been using SIPphone long before Gizmo came on the scene |
| 03:15.04 | kamitodo | interesting. gizmo (as in gizmo project, I suppose) was created later? what was sipphone before that? |
| 03:15.21 | mkillebrew | lmadsen: what sucks about gizmo exactly? |
| 03:15.35 | lmadsen | my experience was with the client on my nokia e61i... it just sucks |
| 03:15.44 | mkillebrew | in what manner? |
| 03:15.50 | mkillebrew | is voice quality poor? |
| 03:15.59 | lmadsen | I just found it useless |
| 03:15.59 | mkillebrew | is the app unreliable? |
| 03:16.04 | lmadsen | use FWD, it's makes more sense |
| 03:16.06 | mkillebrew | I find you to be useless.. |
| 03:16.08 | Nivex | kamitodo: sipphone begat gizmo |
| 03:16.12 | lmadsen | I am fairly useless |
| 03:16.31 | Nivex | FWD is nice because you can get an IAX2 link |
| 03:16.33 | lmadsen | if you want a free peer-to-peer phone system, use free world dialup |
| 03:16.45 | lmadsen | everything else is just an imitator |
| 03:16.54 | lmadsen | otherwise, get a real account |
| 03:17.28 | kamitodo | what do you mean by free world dialup? |
| 03:17.46 | Nivex | www.freeworlddialup.com |
| 03:17.59 | lmadsen | ~freeworlddialup |
| 03:18.02 | lmadsen | ~fwd |
| 03:18.02 | jbot | [~fwd] Free World Dialup, created by Jeff Pulver, is a free SIP server for P2P style that does not involve the PSTN (there is a charged option for this as well though). http://www.freeworlddialup.com/ |
| 03:18.05 | kamitodo | oh fwd |
| 03:18.46 | kamitodo | so what's the benefit of using that? |
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| 03:19.47 | kamitodo | if i have an asterisk box, a DID and outgoing providers do i need fwd? |
| 03:20.08 | mkillebrew | no? |
| 03:20.17 | lmadsen | no |
| 03:20.32 | mkillebrew | unless you really want it |
| 03:20.36 | Nivex | FWD and Gizmo are free IP to IP services. They have little to nothing to do with the PSTN |
| 03:20.37 | lmadsen | fwd is for people who want to talk to other people without paying anything and want some sort of "number" to dial |
| 03:20.47 | Katty | hai |
| 03:20.56 | Katty | i've come to annoy you all |
| 03:21.00 | lmadsen | Katty: hi! |
| 03:21.08 | lmadsen | Katty: you can annoy me anytime you want |
| 03:21.15 | lmadsen | except for right now |
| 03:21.18 | lmadsen | because I'm not in the mood |
| 03:21.24 | mkillebrew | Katty: lmadsen already does that. |
| 03:21.30 | mkillebrew | he irritates the crap out of me. |
| 03:21.37 | lmadsen | I've said like 2 things to you |
| 03:21.51 | mkillebrew | puts up another tally mark |
| 03:22.00 | lmadsen | shrugs |
| 03:22.03 | lmadsen | can't please everyone |
| 03:22.24 | lmadsen | in fact you know you're popular when you have people who either hate you, or you have stalkers |
| 03:22.33 | lmadsen | stalkers are when you know you've REALLY made it |
| 03:22.45 | Katty | gosh. |
| 03:23.06 | kamitodo | in my case, btw, i use grand central for DID (that's why i need gizmo, grand central can call your gizmo account). but i'm having problems with gizmo. does anyone here have their own asterisk box and have a gizmo "friend"? |
| 03:23.22 | Katty | i think everyone just needs to relax. |
| 03:23.34 | Katty | let's enjoy our sanity before the next world war with china breaks out. |
| 03:23.47 | Katty | that'll put us all in perspective. |
| 03:24.14 | Nivex | o.O |
| 03:24.24 | Nivex | but we haven't flattened Iran yet |
| 03:25.00 | lmadsen | ... |
| 03:25.02 | Katty | that's why we're all appreciating life right now. |
| 03:25.18 | Katty | lmadsen: even you, mister. |
| 03:25.31 | TJNII | China doesn't have to go to war with us. They can just impose an embargo and wreck our currency by dumping all their holdings. |
| 03:25.40 | Katty | lmadsen: you have a lot to be thankful for (= |
| 03:25.42 | lmadsen | ya, because Iraq, who has no weapons, is going so well that flattening Iran should be a cake walk |
| 03:25.48 | lmadsen | Katty: yes I do :0 |
| 03:25.55 | lmadsen | s/:0/:) |
| 03:25.59 | Katty | lmadsen: now think about a couple lucky things you have. and smile. |
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| 03:26.04 | Katty | lmadsen: DO EET RIGHT NOW |
| 03:26.07 | lmadsen | Katty: I was already smiling |
| 03:26.11 | Katty | good. |
| 03:26.12 | lmadsen | I always smile |
| 03:26.15 | Katty | no more annoyed! |
| 03:26.20 | lmadsen | I was never annoyed |
| 03:26.28 | Katty | everyone's going to be happy, damnit! |
| 03:26.28 | lmadsen | someone was annoyed with me, but I was having a good time |
| 03:26.42 | lmadsen | I'm too awesome to not be happy :D |
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| 03:27.59 | Katty | i'm a very lucky person too. |
| 03:28.11 | lmadsen | because you know me? |
| 03:28.14 | lmadsen | lol |
| 03:28.37 | Katty | because i know the man sitting in the room next to me. |
| 03:28.55 | Katty | and i have 4 furry ferrets which are the cutest things ever. |
| 03:29.00 | lmadsen | lol |
| 03:29.02 | mkillebrew | lmadsen: you in california by any chance> |
| 03:29.02 | Katty | and i'm not struggling financially |
| 03:29.04 | lmadsen | no pets for me |
| 03:29.07 | lmadsen | mkillebrew: nope |
| 03:29.08 | Nivex | The university I work for just advanced to the Final Four. It's a good atmosphere to have :) |
| 03:29.16 | mkillebrew | lmadsen: was I even close? |
| 03:29.17 | lmadsen | mkillebrew: I don't live in the US |
| 03:29.20 | lmadsen | so no |
| 03:29.23 | Katty | and i like my job |
| 03:29.26 | mkillebrew | ah that makes sense then.. |
| 03:29.27 | lmadsen | Katty: me too |
| 03:29.28 | Katty | and there are flowers outside. |
| 03:29.34 | lmadsen | mkillebrew: uh huh |
| 03:29.35 | Katty | all of it makes for a very happy Katty |
| 03:29.49 | Nivex | I have friends with ferrets and chinchillas. |
| 03:29.50 | Katty | all except for the laundry |
| 03:29.52 | Katty | hrmm :/ |
| 03:29.58 | mkillebrew | only californians and foreigners are as liberal as you are. |
| 03:30.14 | lmadsen | thanks for the compliment |
| 03:30.21 | mkillebrew | it wasn't one. |
| 03:30.23 | lmadsen | you could call me a tree hugger to |
| 03:30.25 | lmadsen | too* |
| 03:31.06 | mkillebrew | I could do alot of things. |
| 03:31.37 | lmadsen | and you'd probably think it was an insult, and I'd think it was a compliment. No matter what I say we're going to be at odds because our view point of life, religion, and politics are probably going to be polar opposites. I can tell. |
| 03:31.46 | lmadsen | a lot is two words.... |
| 03:31.53 | lmadsen | not that I'm helping |
| 03:32.00 | Nivex | see, we need more hugging and less bombing |
| 03:32.16 | lmadsen | how about we just learn to love the bomb? |
| 03:32.31 | Nivex | fork bombs your asterisk box |
| 03:32.44 | lmadsen | fork bomb? that's a new one |
| 03:33.05 | Nivex | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fork_bomb |
| 03:33.12 | lmadsen | mkillebrew: actually, you're probably the most interesting person in here right now :) |
| 03:33.14 | bluregard | hey there's chatter in here now |
| 03:33.47 | jql | shh! |
| 03:34.09 | bluregard | but I don't want to |
| 03:35.06 | bluregard | everytime someone says shh I think of the simpsons at the end when you hear Homer "Don't shhush me shhushie" |
| 03:35.19 | jql | I think of austin powers |
| 03:35.24 | bluregard | that too |
| 03:35.28 | lmadsen | I like that one (the simpsons reference) |
| 03:35.34 | bluregard | LockSHHHmonster |
| 03:35.42 | bluregard | a preemptive shh |
| 03:36.53 | lmadsen | lol |
| 03:37.22 | mkillebrew | lmadsen: what country are you in? |
| 03:37.36 | lmadsen | Canada |
| 03:37.43 | lmadsen | isn't it obvious? |
| 03:37.48 | mkillebrew | no |
| 03:37.59 | mkillebrew | could have been belgium, or the netherlands |
| 03:38.12 | lmadsen | ya... I'd identify with those countries |
| 03:38.21 | lmadsen | my mindset is probably compatible |
| 03:38.28 | lmadsen | so you're not necessarily wrong |
| 03:38.32 | mkillebrew | maybe france, atleast northern france |
| 03:38.42 | mkillebrew | but you just don't go around calling someone french. |
| 03:38.46 | mkillebrew | them's fightin words. |
| 03:38.55 | lmadsen | ya, and the french man would kick your ass |
| 03:39.27 | jameswf-home | put up hus shell site... |
| 03:39.34 | jameswf-home | *his |
| 03:39.38 | mkillebrew | yea, like the french foreign legions, who lost every skirmish in history they've fought in. then tried to assassinate the french leader and failed at that too.. |
| 03:39.44 | mkillebrew | that'll just mop the floor with me... |
| 03:40.24 | lmadsen | like I said, our viewpoints are going to be exactly opposite |
| 03:41.57 | lmadsen | mkillebrew: what state do you live in? |
| 03:42.05 | mkillebrew | texas |
| 03:42.13 | lmadsen | nice state |
| 03:42.21 | mkillebrew | I think so |
| 03:42.24 | lmadsen | dallas is really clean |
| 03:42.30 | lmadsen | reminds me of toronto kinda |
| 03:42.42 | bluregard | San Antonio was nice too |
| 03:42.43 | mkillebrew | except people don't say "what's all that aboot, eh?" |
| 03:42.59 | mkillebrew | I'm in Austin though |
| 03:43.07 | mkillebrew | the hippie center of texas |
| 03:43.13 | lmadsen | I've been in the US a lot, and the canadian access isn't exactly "aboot", but it's close |
| 03:43.19 | jql | yay austin |
| 03:43.27 | bluregard | Austin was fun |
| 03:43.37 | jameswf-home | I should buy asstrix.info :) |
| 03:43.42 | bluregard | I had to spend a week at Round Rock |
| 03:43.52 | lmadsen | the US access is closer to 'abat' usually... less so in KC and Seattle, and the Canadian is like... "abaoot" |
| 03:45.04 | lmadsen | abaoot is closer to the Canadian way of saying about -- you need that 'a' sound in there, like the US has. The ooo is just less pronounced in an American accent. |
| 03:46.21 | bluregard | lmadsen, where in Canada are you? |
| 03:46.27 | mkillebrew | the bad part. |
| 03:46.37 | bluregard | mkillebrew, is there a good part? |
| 03:46.43 | mkillebrew | no. |
| 03:46.46 | bluregard | just kidding just kidding |
| 03:46.55 | RobH | bleh, I dont have the durn link |
| 03:46.58 | RobH | ~book |
| 03:46.58 | jbot | Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com, or see ~buybook |
| 03:47.00 | bluregard | I loved Canada when I was there |
| 03:47.01 | RobH | there we go |
| 03:47.09 | jameswf-home | ~buybook |
| 03:47.09 | jbot | You can buy "Asterisk the Future of Telephony" at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ so go buy it SERIOUSLY |
| 03:47.33 | RobH | I own it, needed to link someone else who kept asking me questions ;] |
| 03:47.43 | lmadsen | bluregard: downtown Toronto |
| 03:47.47 | RobH | 'no, stop asking me this, read the book, please, read the book' |
| 03:48.00 | bluregard | both * books are some of the most well written books I've read |
| 03:48.24 | russellb | lmadsen: ^^^ |
| 03:48.31 | jameswf-home | owns a few copies of both |
| 03:49.03 | lmadsen | http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=26304&l=7f458&id=512680761 |
| 03:49.33 | lmadsen | bluregard: thank you :) |
| 03:49.49 | bluregard | lmadsen, no thank you |
| 03:50.36 | bluregard | and it's awesome that you guys made it creative commons |
| 03:50.38 | lmadsen | anyways... Toronto is awesome |
| 03:50.43 | *** join/#asterisk m4sk4r4 (n=m4sk4r4@189.13.177.89) |
| 03:51.00 | bluregard | I was in Niagra Falls twice, loved it |
| 03:51.11 | russellb | "screw asterisk, i want to talk about toronto", lmadsen |
| 03:51.12 | lmadsen | bluregard: ya well, we weren't gonna get rich on it anyways, so might as well let everyone enjoy and help move asterisk along |
| 03:51.24 | bluregard | we had my buddies bachelor party there |
| 03:51.28 | lmadsen | russellb: heck ya |
| 03:51.29 | russellb | bows down to lmadsen |
| 03:51.41 | lmadsen | shut up |
| 03:51.42 | file | stares at lmadsen |
| 03:51.44 | lmadsen | you're way more hardcore than me |
| 03:51.50 | lmadsen | russellb and file are my heros |
| 03:51.53 | russellb | <3 |
| 03:51.55 | bluregard | lmadsen, well I bought both editions, but it's still nice to see something like that under such a license |
| 03:52.09 | lmadsen | bluregard: if anything at least it makes searching for something easier |
| 03:52.13 | file | russellb is my hero. |
| 03:52.19 | russellb | aw <3 |
| 03:52.24 | lmadsen | feel the <3 |
| 03:52.28 | russellb | my hero is superman! |
| 03:52.32 | lmadsen | pushes russellb into a bush |
| 03:52.34 | lmadsen | ...again |
| 03:52.36 | russellb | zing |
| 03:52.39 | file | russellb: I bought a lucky bamboo today and totally thought of you |
| 03:52.46 | russellb | file: i saw your tweet <3 |
| 03:52.48 | lmadsen | o.O |
| 03:52.54 | file | russellb: have you killed it yet? |
| 03:52.58 | russellb | no |
| 03:53.01 | file | yay |
| 03:53.06 | russellb | maybe dwayne will water it for me |
| 03:53.17 | russellb | you can remind him :) |
| 03:53.22 | lmadsen | I wish Forza 2 has nascar type cars |
| 03:57.15 | *** join/#asterisk Nasra (n=Nasra@CPE001217b1920e-CM00111ade9528.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 04:00.42 | Nasra | hello... |
| 04:00.57 | bluregard | hi |
| 04:01.06 | Nasra | how you doing? |
| 04:01.15 | bluregard | well |
| 04:01.17 | bluregard | you |
| 04:01.23 | Nasra | good |
| 04:01.28 | bluregard | excellent |
| 04:01.32 | Nasra | need to ask you a question? |
| 04:01.50 | bluregard | I don't know, do you? |
| 04:02.00 | Nasra | I think you do |
| 04:02.08 | bluregard | ok, I'm confused |
| 04:02.21 | Nasra | I am about to get a box with Asterisk |
| 04:02.40 | bluregard | ok |
| 04:03.23 | Nasra | Can I just run it with copper line ( pstn ) or do I need a provider for voip? |
| 04:03.51 | bluregard | yes, you can get TDM cards or an ATA for using copper |
| 04:04.15 | Nasra | like a spa3000, correct? |
| 04:04.51 | tzanger | wow that was fun :-) |
| 04:04.59 | bluregard | yes |
| 04:05.09 | Nasra | so the Asterisk will convert my pstn into voip? |
| 04:05.30 | jameswf-home | heh ASSTRIX.INFO is available! |
| 04:05.53 | bluregard | Nasra, actually the ATA does the conversion |
| 04:05.59 | tzanger | Nasra: it can, yes |
| 04:06.04 | Qwell | jameswf-home: but .com isn't? |
| 04:06.06 | tzanger | you don't need a full PC for that, as bluregard indicates |
| 04:06.16 | Nasra | ok |
| 04:06.22 | tzanger | I should register asteri.cx |
| 04:06.23 | jameswf-home | i duno .indo is .99 cents |
| 04:06.29 | Katty | mmm, dinner |
| 04:06.41 | Katty | roast. |
| 04:06.43 | jameswf-home | .net and .org is not .com |
| 04:06.51 | jameswf-home | *.info |
| 04:07.08 | bluregard | Katty, you keep my kind of hours |
| 04:07.12 | tzanger | I wonder if aybabt.us is taken |
| 04:07.13 | bluregard | dinner at 11 |
| 04:07.20 | Nasra | so blueregard: once done that...if I want to call to another country how do I do that? |
| 04:07.24 | Katty | bluregard: only on the weekend |
| 04:07.52 | bluregard | that's no fun |
| 04:08.05 | *** join/#asterisk coppice (n=chatzill@99.166.17.210.dyn.pacific.net.hk) |
| 04:08.07 | bluregard | Nasra, uh, dial? |
| 04:08.10 | Katty | don't be so sure, bluregard |
| 04:08.12 | jameswf-home | got jameswf.info ... figure at a buck cant hurt + I have a place to host files and 3000MB/mo of traffic |
| 04:08.22 | Katty | bluregard: my early mornings on the week days are very relaxing |
| 04:08.34 | bluregard | Katty, redbull and vault |
| 04:08.39 | bluregard | my kind of relaxing too |
| 04:08.40 | jameswf-home | *30000 |
| 04:09.00 | Katty | bluregard: i usually drink that /after/ the bubble bath. |
| 04:09.03 | Nasra | bluegard I know that .....how about moneywise....does the call itself gotta be paid somehow? |
| 04:09.07 | Katty | bluregard: and then after the redbull, is the eliptical |
| 04:09.34 | tzanger | you shouldn't be exercising after taking stimulants |
| 04:09.39 | bluregard | Nasra, if you want cheap intl' you'll need a VoIP provider |
| 04:09.52 | Nasra | I gotta now |
| 04:09.54 | bluregard | Katty, thanks for the clarification |
| 04:10.00 | Katty | tzanger: it's really only a couple sips (= |
| 04:10.01 | jameswf-home | I need to add some logic to files.jameswf,info to auto thumbnail images... |
| 04:10.04 | Katty | tzanger: don't worry (= |
| 04:10.07 | tzanger | elliptical... I swear that machine should have a strictly for females tag on it... I feel... weird... every time I try to use one |
| 04:10.27 | tzanger | treatmill no problem, bike no problem, wave machine's a little funny too but not like the elliptical |
| 04:10.28 | Katty | tzanger: ry says the same thing you do. |
| 04:10.31 | Katty | tzanger: he doesn't like it either |
| 04:10.47 | bluregard | Nasra, you can always dial intl' via your PSTN but it'll probably cost quite a bit more than an IP provider |
| 04:10.48 | tzanger | ry... hmm. close enough to rye... I'm kinda craving some |
| 04:11.17 | *** join/#asterisk terracon (n=greisky@CPE001cf097a750-CM0012254076d6.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 04:11.56 | Nasra | blueregard....the whole idea is be able to call my buddies or my family in another country with Asterisk box setup so we can talk one another....get it? |
| 04:12.10 | Nasra | no pay |
| 04:12.36 | Katty | this roast is so awesome. i can't believe i didn't used to like it. |
| 04:13.02 | Katty | actually, i can believe it. my mom used to put massive ammounts of celery in it, and she didn't shred the meat either. |
| 04:13.17 | tzanger | .... shred meat in a roast? |
| 04:13.28 | bluregard | Nasra, if you have them all get IP phones either hard or soft they can all connect to your * box and you can talk free |
| 04:13.30 | Katty | tzanger: yes, after it's cooked. |
| 04:13.41 | Katty | tzanger: i take two forks, and shred it down |
| 04:13.55 | bluregard | Nasra, they could also get ATAs that connect to your * machine and use a regular analog phone |
| 04:14.11 | tzanger | my recipe for roast involves a lot of garlic, potatoes, onions, carrots and mushrooms and searing the block of beef in very very hot oil and crusting it with fresh coarse ground pepper |
| 04:14.16 | tzanger | oh and don't forget a few bay leaves |
| 04:14.31 | tzanger | and a slow, low cook... mmmmmmmm meat so tender it comes apart with a fork |
| 04:14.32 | Katty | tzanger: do you cut the roast down into bite size pieces? |
| 04:14.33 | *** join/#asterisk antlers_ (n=antlers@domicile.riven.net) |
| 04:14.35 | bluregard | tzanger, that sound s like mine |
| 04:14.54 | bluregard | Katty, that's a sin in most countries |
| 04:14.56 | tzanger | Katty: no way... it's a 3 or 4lb block of beef, preferably with some fat on it but not much |
| 04:14.58 | Katty | i mush up everything with a fork and put some butter on it. |
| 04:15.03 | antlers_ | hello... I was hoping someone could slap me upside the head with a clue-by-four |
| 04:15.05 | antlers_ | exten => s,5,GotoIf($[len${CALLERID(num)} < 7]?6666:6) |
| 04:15.10 | Katty | tzanger: how on earth do you eat it? |
| 04:15.14 | tzanger | antlers_: we do that around here for free |
| 04:15.19 | Katty | tzanger: i can't stand all those strings that get in the teeth |
| 04:15.31 | antlers_ | does anyone see something obviously wrong with that? If CID is < 7, goto 6666, else goto 6 |
| 04:15.37 | Nasra | blueragard .....you getting the picture of what I intend to do....about those ip phones....which ones are those ....and if so can you name some brands and do they have to be configured or something? |
| 04:15.39 | tzanger | Katty: if it's stringy it's not quite cooked long enough... falling apart is just a step after stringy |
| 04:15.54 | bluregard | Nasra, polycom is my personal favorite |
| 04:15.58 | Katty | tzanger: i slow cooked mine on low from 9 to 5 |
| 04:16.05 | Katty | tzanger: 8 hours |
| 04:16.19 | tzanger | antlers_: LEN not len |
| 04:16.20 | tzanger | it *is* case sensitie |
| 04:16.23 | tzanger | er sensitive |
| 04:16.30 | tzanger | which boggles the mind, but whatever |
| 04:16.33 | Katty | i guess it's done lol |
| 04:16.38 | bluregard | Nasra, you can configure polycoms via FTP or TFTP, same with ATA's. I have an IAXy from Digium that you can provision with * itself |
| 04:16.40 | Katty | argh, i want soda. |
| 04:16.42 | Katty | soddddaaa |
| 04:16.43 | Katty | pouts |
| 04:16.46 | jameswf-home | damn linux and its case sensitivity..... |
| 04:16.53 | tzanger | Katty: ahh I haven't slow cookered mine, I usually oven roast it with the lid off th eentire time |
| 04:16.59 | Katty | i'mmabout to go to the gas station |
| 04:17.04 | Katty | tzanger: ahhh, i see. |
| 04:17.05 | tzanger | searing it is important, as is lid off |
| 04:17.06 | jameswf-home | has gas,,, |
| 04:17.13 | Katty | tzanger: the only thing i roast in the oven is ham |
| 04:17.14 | Nasra | blueregard....setup my box here where I am ....and then have to get ip phones like polycom and have configure and and then we can each other as much as we want no pay...correct? |
| 04:17.17 | tzanger | can't get good crust without it, and every time I wet-roast the thing it doesn't come out as good |
| 04:17.19 | bluregard | Katty, pick me up a 16oz Redbull |
| 04:17.21 | Katty | tzanger: ham precooked in coca cola. |
| 04:17.25 | tzanger | Katty: i rarely, rarely cook ham |
| 04:17.34 | Nasra | okay I get you know.... |
| 04:17.35 | Qwell | bluregard: I'm holding out for the 2 liter bottles |
| 04:17.38 | Katty | tzanger: boiled in cocacola. then glazed with molases and ground mustard, and clove. |
| 04:17.44 | bluregard | Qwell, you know! |
| 04:17.49 | Katty | tzanger: then roasted until sticky |
| 04:17.52 | bluregard | or IV drip |
| 04:17.54 | tzanger | bluregard: yeah roast is a good good meal, especially when I get the gravy just perfect |
| 04:17.58 | Qwell | IV would work |
| 04:18.06 | Qwell | emails redbull |
| 04:18.07 | tzanger | Katty: hmm really |
| 04:18.08 | Nasra | blueregard: I will be more than happy if you can provide me that link... |
| 04:18.10 | Katty | yeah, i'm seriously about to go get some soda. |
| 04:18.11 | bluregard | Nasra, yes |
| 04:18.15 | Katty | it's acidic coldness. |
| 04:18.16 | tzanger | Katty: that sounds really good |
| 04:18.17 | Katty | and bubbly |
| 04:18.18 | antlers_ | tzanger, case noted... still no dice, with CID digits or not, call still routed to 6 rather than 6666... time to review syntax I think |
| 04:18.18 | Katty | mmm. |
| 04:18.20 | bluregard | Nasra, www.polycom.com ? |
| 04:18.27 | Nasra | ok |
| 04:18.42 | Nasra | blueregard....as you can see I am learning.... |
| 04:18.50 | tzanger | antlers_: |
| 04:18.56 | tzanger | exten => 1234567,n,GotoIf($[ ${LEN(${CALLERID(number)})} != 10 ]?ringvm,1) |
| 04:18.58 | tzanger | that's what I use |
| 04:19.06 | Nasra | linux is a new thing for me...since I just made the transition...so is gonna take a while... |
| 04:19.15 | Katty | tzanger: http://uktv.co.uk/food/recipe/aid/516270 |
| 04:19.16 | tzanger | Nasra: well worth the effort, IMO |
| 04:19.23 | Nasra | yes sir |
| 04:19.31 | bluregard | Nasra, I think that's why this channel exists. I would also recommend picking up a copy of the book by O'reilly |
| 04:19.45 | jameswf-home | ~buybook |
| 04:19.46 | jbot | You can buy "Asterisk the Future of Telephony" at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ so go buy it SERIOUSLY |
| 04:19.54 | Katty | tzanger: that's close to mine (= |
| 04:19.57 | Nasra | setting up my box....but not quite ready yet ...just asking questions here and there... |
| 04:20.06 | tzanger | Katty: I generally don't like cooking with prepared flavours, only because I'm a bit of a snob when it comes to my own cooking |
| 04:20.25 | Katty | tzanger: kay. |
| 04:20.27 | Nasra | blueregard....just bought it @ amazon....2 days ago is on it's way |
| 04:20.33 | tzanger | I make a spaghetti sauce from scratch that only my wife beats with her sweet spaghetti sauce with sausage... totally different from mine but daaaaaaaaaymn, it's good |
| 04:20.39 | bluregard | Nasra, wise purchase |
| 04:20.44 | Nasra | yes sir |
| 04:20.45 | tzanger | the only thing I don't do is crush the tomatoes myself :-) |
| 04:20.54 | bluregard | Nasra, you'll understand a lot more after reading it |
| 04:20.57 | jameswf-home | is the key ingreadient to your sauce ketsup |
| 04:21.02 | bluregard | ~book |
| 04:21.02 | jbot | Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com, or see ~buybook |
| 04:21.05 | Nasra | and with guys like you it worth the efforts to try..... |
| 04:21.11 | Nasra | yes sir |
| 04:21.14 | tzanger | I make a good shepherd's pie too but I cheat still by using a store bought bbq sauce, I haven't been able to make that from scratch yet |
| 04:21.34 | antlers_ | tzanger, what version are you using? 1.6.0-beta6 here |
| 04:21.36 | bluregard | Nasra, I'm still pretty much a novice with *, but I'm coming along |
| 04:21.39 | Katty | shepherd's pie takes a bit to cook. i'm lazsy |
| 04:21.46 | tzanger | but country biscuits, pancakes, spaghetti sauce, chicken/turkey, roast... so far I've managed to make all of those from scratch |
| 04:21.52 | tzanger | antlers_: ahh, haven't done 1.6 yet |
| 04:21.55 | jql | mmmm... shepard's pie |
| 04:22.09 | antlers_ | typically I would not toy with such beta, but I actually found Nortel UNISTIM RPMs for 1.6.0-beta6 on Fedora Core 9 |
| 04:22.15 | tzanger | suddenly feels like he's away from the edge, this is not a normal position :-0 |
| 04:22.24 | jameswf-home | I worked in as a manager and chef for a few years since then I lothe cooking if I dont have to |
| 04:22.29 | Katty | i actually need to find something healthy to make for next week, that's still easy |
| 04:22.33 | bluregard | tzanger, I came up with a great roasted pork tenderloin if you're interested |
| 04:22.35 | Nasra | blueregard the reason I want to learn is to be able to talk into another country....at least finding the cheapest way |
| 04:22.55 | tzanger | jql: yep... lots of beef with mushrooms, then corn layered on top, then creamed corn, then mashed potatoes and some grated cheese after all that |
| 04:22.57 | jameswf-home | doesnt like to cook and refuses to use a phone outside of work |
| 04:23.03 | tzanger | bluregard: nice |
| 04:23.06 | bluregard | Nasra, well if everyone you're going to be talking to is connected to your * box it'll be free, aside from the broadband |
| 04:23.07 | jql | damn that sounds yummy |
| 04:23.10 | tzanger | jameswf-home: :-) |
| 04:23.20 | Nasra | nice |
| 04:23.41 | jql | 3> corn |
| 04:23.49 | jql | too drunk to <3 |
| 04:24.13 | Katty | haha |
| 04:24.14 | tzanger | jql: hahaha |
| 04:24.16 | Nasra | okay so now....I just have to wait for my wise purchase to arrive.....and thanks alot all... |
| 04:24.27 | tzanger | Katty: i'm gonna have to try that ham recipe |
| 04:24.29 | Katty | haha, i read that as 'my wife purchase' |
| 04:24.32 | bluregard | Nasra, you can always start reading the PDF version |
| 04:24.45 | Katty | tzanger: do it. it's wonderful. |
| 04:24.56 | tzanger | cloves are something I have never cooked with |
| 04:25.04 | Katty | they're a bit strong |
| 04:25.09 | Nasra | yes I am doing that learning the terms.... |
| 04:25.10 | Katty | i usually don't use very much of them. |
| 04:25.17 | tzanger | although I've made the full conversion from peppercorns to crushed or coarse ground pepper... much more intense |
| 04:25.32 | jameswf-home | how do you fix a womans watch.... |
| 04:25.36 | jameswf-home | nm sorry |
| 04:25.49 | antlers_ | tzanger, I just got back from India... brought home big ol' bags of spices |
| 04:25.58 | antlers_ | the pepper corns I got there knocked me off my rear end |
| 04:26.04 | tzanger | nice... I don't generally get too spicy but a friend of mine has been initiating me |
| 04:26.14 | tzanger | he's a fan of asian cooking, lots of 5-spice and stuff |
| 04:26.15 | coppice | i don't find the food in india very spicy |
| 04:26.17 | tzanger | antlers_: I bet |
| 04:26.19 | Katty | hmm. asian |
| 04:26.19 | jql | proper indian spices? /jealous |
| 04:26.26 | jameswf-home | indian, thai and mexican all different kinds of hot... |
| 04:26.27 | Katty | i haven't had some nice proper asian food in a bit |
| 04:26.28 | antlers_ | Indian food sucks, sorry Indians |
| 04:26.32 | antlers_ | ok, some of it is good... :) |
| 04:26.38 | Katty | i like curry |
| 04:26.40 | bluregard | tzanger, try some curry paste |
| 04:26.41 | antlers_ | but Indian spice is... hmmm... bland? |
| 04:26.41 | Katty | and biryana |
| 04:26.46 | Katty | ooohhhh i like biryani |
| 04:26.46 | antlers_ | like a very very dull spicy |
| 04:27.02 | antlers_ | the snacks they served me with beer over there I loved |
| 04:27.06 | tzanger | yeah I'm not much for spice, although a little bite is good |
| 04:27.09 | antlers_ | everything else sucked, at least to me, to each their own... |
| 04:27.19 | Katty | antlers_: was it like flat little rye crisps? |
| 04:27.20 | antlers_ | ended up eating at subway in the IT campus a lot |
| 04:27.22 | Katty | antlers_: fennel crisps |
| 04:27.24 | jameswf-home | I love thai... I have a friend who can order natively man that gets you the good sh** |
| 04:27.24 | antlers_ | despite the "chicken ham" |
| 04:27.47 | tzanger | my wife claims I make the best roast chicken ever, I think it's a fun dish to make |
| 04:27.50 | tzanger | always room for improvement |
| 04:27.51 | antlers_ | Katty, shrug... I can't remember half the names of things... this was in Chennai, so Tamil style food |
| 04:27.58 | antlers_ | *bobs his head left and right* |
| 04:28.08 | Katty | tzanger: i'd be interested in your roast chicken recipe |
| 04:28.19 | tzanger | Katty: there really is not much to it |
| 04:28.20 | Katty | tzanger: i don't have one yet. that'd be a nice healthy thing to make next week. |
| 04:28.24 | tzanger | I take great pain to prepare the skin though |
| 04:28.29 | jameswf-home | TurDuckhen |
| 04:28.33 | antlers_ | exten => s,5,GotoIf($[ ${LEN(${CALLERID(number)})} = "" ]?6666,6) |
| 04:28.42 | antlers_ | time to slap myself up the head with a 1.6 syntax doc |
| 04:29.01 | antlers_ | GotoIf is so simple my 4yo could understand it, so obviously I'm doing something beyond stupid |
| 04:29.07 | tzanger | wash off the bird, dry it off with paper towel, then I salt it down and let it "sweat" - the salt pulls the moisture out of hte skin... paper towel it off and apply more salt if necessary, it'll sweat at least 2 or 3 times |
| 04:29.10 | Katty | tzanger: you buy cornish hens? |
| 04:29.14 | tzanger | then brush on some olive oil |
| 04:29.16 | tzanger | that's the skin done |
| 04:29.21 | tzanger | Katty: I have, same method |
| 04:29.24 | tzanger | they're delish :-) |
| 04:29.31 | Katty | how long does this salting take? |
| 04:29.34 | Katty | a single round |
| 04:30.11 | tzanger | after that I usually dice up an entire onion, poultry seasoning, pepper... a 1.5kg chicken proabbly gets about a half cup of this |
| 04:30.18 | tzanger | lots of mushrooms too although I liek those big |
| 04:30.28 | tzanger | oh and a half a lemon |
| 04:30.41 | Katty | i think you should email me all this |
| 04:30.41 | tzanger | pour that *in* the chicken, the skin is already done |
| 04:30.53 | tzanger | Katty: hmm... I like to let it sweat at least 10 minutes at a time |
| 04:31.00 | tzanger | so for 3 sweats... 30 min? |
| 04:31.01 | Katty | nods |
| 04:31.07 | Katty | in, the chicken? |
| 04:31.09 | Katty | >.< |
| 04:31.30 | tzanger | anyway... 350 or 325 if you're gonna slow cook it... until the thigh measures 180... I like my chicken a little overdone |
| 04:31.30 | Katty | always been a fan of boneless, skinless |
| 04:31.41 | jameswf-home | ~ot |
| 04:31.42 | jbot | well, ot is off topic |
| 04:31.54 | tzanger | Katty: yeah you pour that stuff in the chicken and around it... you can baste the skin with that instead of oil if you don't want golden brown crispy skin |
| 04:31.56 | jql | ~cooking |
| 04:31.57 | jbot | i heard cooking is at <reply> http://www.cookingforengineers.com/ ...yum :) |
| 04:32.01 | jql | yay |
| 04:32.04 | Katty | tzanger: nice (= |
| 04:32.13 | Katty | tzanger: that sounds wonderful. must try it |
| 04:32.15 | tzanger | the lemon brings out a very nic eflavour in it |
| 04:32.18 | *** join/#asterisk timgws (n=LivedTyp@202.172.97.51) |
| 04:32.31 | tzanger | but yeah, tasty chicken, great breast meat too (I've never ever ever had dry breasts) |
| 04:32.42 | tzanger | made a killer 17lb turkey this past easter |
| 04:32.48 | tzanger | god bless my mom's stuffing :-) |
| 04:32.54 | Katty | hehe |
| 04:32.58 | tzanger | super simple too |
| 04:33.03 | Katty | my mom is a nightmare when it comes to turkey |
| 04:33.08 | tzanger | but she cheats (lipton chicken noodle soup package for flavor) |
| 04:33.12 | jameswf-home | jut found Sauteed Okra with Roasted Red Peppers |
| 04:33.15 | tzanger | but I can't argue with it |
| 04:33.23 | tzanger | it's a super awesome stuffing |
| 04:33.28 | *** join/#asterisk jdas (n=JasonBer@pool-72-88-209-247.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) |
| 04:33.37 | tzanger | heh hey jdas |
| 04:33.42 | Katty | i'm more of a cornbread with sage and rasins type person |
| 04:33.43 | jdas | Hey ;) |
| 04:33.44 | tzanger | I recognize you |
| 04:33.57 | tzanger | cornbread with sage and raisins? blasphemy |
| 04:33.58 | jdas | I'm everywhere |
| 04:34.03 | jdas | :) |
| 04:34.03 | tzanger | no, I'm everywhere |
| 04:34.04 | tzanger | ask katty |
| 04:34.07 | Katty | tzanger: it's goood ;) |
| 04:34.08 | bluregard | Katty, sage sausage stuffing |
| 04:34.10 | Katty | i'm also everywhere. |
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| 04:34.21 | Katty | bluregard: yes, sausage is good with cornbread stuffing too. |
| 04:34.23 | Katty | just a little tho |
| 04:34.26 | Katty | not too much sausage |
| 04:34.40 | bluregard | no, then you end up with a sausage and bread loaf |
| 04:34.46 | jcaceres | hello does any body knows how can i modify the sampling rate of ztmonitor? |
| 04:34.56 | tzanger | once I get my farm I will try my hand at making sausage |
| 04:35.04 | tzanger | and growing my own chickens and rabbits |
| 04:35.09 | tzanger | and cheese, and honey |
| 04:35.12 | Katty | you grow plants |
| 04:35.14 | Katty | you raise animals |
| 04:35.21 | bluregard | damn, beat me to it |
| 04:35.21 | tzanger | not according to my 4 year old |
| 04:35.26 | Katty | you paint walls, you polish nails |
| 04:35.31 | tzanger | I have her convinced that you put eggs in the soil and water them to grow chickens |
| 04:35.49 | jcaceres | is this asterisk voip? or i made i mistake? |
| 04:35.50 | tzanger | I also have her calling chicken breasts "chicken boobs" |
| 04:35.50 | bluregard | tzanger, that's awesome. |
| 04:36.06 | tzanger | when teh school calls me to ask about that I'll ask them incredulously, "W>hat did you expect me to teach ehr to call them, chicken tits?" |
| 04:36.13 | Katty | tzanger: you daughter reminds me of the kid on reddit awhile back that summarized star wars |
| 04:36.21 | tzanger | oh? |
| 04:36.28 | Katty | tzanger: you didn't see that? |
| 04:36.32 | Katty | tzanger: i'll get it |
| 04:36.34 | tzanger | Katty: no, I am not on reddit |
| 04:37.30 | jcaceres | i'll ask again, how can i modify the sampling rate of ztmonitor? |
| 04:37.44 | Katty | tzanger: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBM854BTGL0 |
| 04:37.45 | tzanger | jcaceres: you can adjust the poll() timeout I guess, but why |
| 04:38.04 | jql | with sufficient motivation... |
| 04:38.13 | jdas | So |
| 04:38.20 | jdas | I was digging through my basement |
| 04:38.25 | jdas | And found one of these |
| 04:38.26 | jdas | http://www.voipsupply.com/product_info.php?products_id=422 |
| 04:38.27 | Katty | tzanger: favorite line: POKIE BALL |
| 04:38.33 | jdas | Any use of this with an Asterisk system? |
| 04:38.48 | jcaceres | that implies recompiling somithing, doesn`t it? |
| 04:39.03 | tzanger | jcaceres: of course |
| 04:39.25 | jql | jdas: expensive toy to mothball in your basement |
| 04:39.34 | jdas | jql: My dad got it for free |
| 04:39.39 | jdas | His office moved |
| 04:39.41 | Katty | tzanger: the shiny guy always worries. |
| 04:39.44 | jdas | I had no idea how much it was worth |
| 04:39.46 | tzanger | Katty: hahaha |
| 04:39.51 | tzanger | not bad, not bad at all |
| 04:39.55 | tzanger | she soudns JUST like my 4yo |
| 04:40.04 | Katty | tzanger: his lightup sword and the pokie ball |
| 04:40.05 | jql | it's certainly usable with asterisk |
| 04:40.05 | tzanger | don't talk back to darth vader, he'll getcha |
| 04:40.17 | jdas | jql: I have no experience with asterisk ;) |
| 04:40.23 | jql | a decent speakerphone. very agreesive sound processing. :) |
| 04:40.24 | tzanger | jql: with sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine |
| 04:40.28 | tzanger | that's one of my all time favourite quotes |
| 04:40.48 | jcaceres | tzanger: I am newbie in compiling in linux, is it posible to compile just ztmonitor and no not mess with all the other stuff in zaptel? |
| 04:40.49 | jdas | Dumbass question...what hardware do I need for an Asterisk system with the Polycom system? |
| 04:40.57 | jdas | For internal purposes (expensive intercom) |
| 04:41.09 | jql | a 486 or better... |
| 04:41.11 | jdas | A computer, granted |
| 04:41.12 | bluregard | jdas, a network card |
| 04:41.19 | tzanger | jcaceres: when you adjust ztmonitor.c and re-issue the make command, it will only rebuild what is necessary (ztmonitor) |
| 04:41.21 | jdas | blu: So I can just use standard Ethernet? |
| 04:41.28 | tzanger | jcaceres: that is assuming, of course, that you've already built zaptel once |
| 04:41.29 | jdas | I dont need one of those 4-port cards? |
| 04:41.30 | bluregard | jdas, yep |
| 04:41.50 | bluregard | jdas, PRI or TDM? |
| 04:41.57 | jdas | Not a damned clue what you mean :P |
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| 04:42.05 | bluregard | jdas, then no |
| 04:42.14 | tzanger | http://everything2.com/e2node/With%2520sufficient%2520thrust%252C%2520pigs%2520fly%2520just%2520fine |
| 04:42.17 | tzanger | heh |
| 04:42.22 | antlers_ | ah, thank god |
| 04:42.24 | antlers_ | exten => s,5,GotoIf($[ ${LEN(${CALLERID(num)})} < 10 ]?default,s,6666) |
| 04:42.31 | antlers_ | and I'm golden now |
| 04:42.40 | jdas | Is there a way to test a SIP base station with a standard network? |
| 04:42.51 | jdas | Plug in the Ethernet cable from a standard connection, see if it powers on? |
| 04:42.59 | jdas | Would that be a decent way to test it? |
| 04:43.02 | bluregard | tzanger, that's f-ing great |
| 04:43.23 | jdas | Or does SIP need a power on command over Ethernet? |
| 04:43.24 | tzanger | http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1925.html |
| 04:43.26 | tzanger | bluregard: ^^ |
| 04:43.55 | tzanger | "no matter how hard you push and no matter what hte priority, you can't increase the speed of light" |
| 04:44.23 | tzafrir_home | jdas, No. Some devices that happen to have SIP functionality can (or must) use power over ethernet |
| 04:44.32 | jdas | Ok |
| 04:44.46 | jdas | So if I plug a working Ethernet cable into the Ethernet port, it should work? |
| 04:44.49 | jdas | As in...turn on |
| 04:44.56 | jdas | Because I don't see a power cable port |
| 04:44.57 | tzafrir_home | My computer (with a soft phone) isn't one of them |
| 04:45.05 | bluregard | jdas, what brand phone? |
| 04:45.12 | tzanger | jdas: uh, no |
| 04:45.12 | jdas | Polycom |
| 04:45.21 | tzanger | you need to supply power over the ethernet cable |
| 04:45.24 | Katty | naptime for kats. |
| 04:45.25 | bluregard | jdas, polycoms use PoE, |
| 04:45.29 | tzanger | Katty: me too |
| 04:45.36 | tzanger | god, it's quarter to one |
| 04:45.36 | Katty | tzanger: ninite |
| 04:45.37 | jdas | Any ideas how I can emulate PoE for testing purposes? |
| 04:45.38 | bluregard | Katty, g'night |
| 04:45.43 | InHisName | I am trying to call other sip companies via ekiga.net format: *363500 My dial plan needs to be fixed. What to add to it ? |
| 04:45.53 | tzafrir_home | jdas, most models do, IIRC |
| 04:46.07 | tzafrir_home | any anyway, you need a switch that provides power |
| 04:46.08 | bluregard | jdas, you need an ethernet cable with a power input, like the one supplied with most polycoms |
| 04:46.16 | jdas | Shit..... |
| 04:46.21 | jdas | I just have the device |
| 04:46.23 | jdas | No cables or anything |
| 04:46.26 | tzafrir_home | power over ethernet uses some extra pins |
| 04:46.38 | bluregard | jdas, if you're good with electronics and know how to read specs you can make one |
| 04:46.56 | bluregard | jdas, or order one |
| 04:46.56 | jdas | I'm good with electronics, but don't want to get started making cables |
| 04:47.15 | jdas | Woooow |
| 04:47.20 | jdas | They are very expensive |
| 04:47.25 | bluregard | what |
| 04:47.35 | jdas | $21.70 |
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| 04:47.50 | tzanger | jdas: it's more than cables in some instances |
| 04:48.12 | tzanger | there is a full-out specification for power over ethernet, if you have to comply with it there's more to it than just wiring up 24V to unused pins |
| 04:48.20 | bluregard | jdas, it's worth it compared to the price of a PoE switch |
| 04:48.36 | bluregard | jdas, for testing at least |
| 04:48.40 | jdas | Hm |
| 04:48.42 | keith4 | any ol' PoE injector will work, though |
| 04:48.44 | bluregard | PoE rocks |
| 04:48.57 | keith4 | i think my polycom test phone is on a linksys PoE injector |
| 04:49.09 | keith4 | probably en ebay special |
| 04:49.19 | jdas | Lemme go look |
| 04:49.23 | jmhunter | bluregard: indeed |
| 04:49.33 | tzafrir_home | PoE means you can't just use standard ethernet... |
| 04:50.07 | bluregard | tzafrir_home, what do you mean |
| 04:51.04 | tzafrir_home | For instance, out of sockets and you want to put a small switch in the room? |
| 04:51.47 | jdas | Will this do the job? |
| 04:51.49 | jdas | http://cgi.ebay.com/THE-LINKSYS-12-VOLT-POWER-OVER-ETHERNET-ADAPTER-KIT_W0QQitemZ120238448540QQihZ002QQcategoryZ11175QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| 04:51.55 | tzafrir_home | Not to mention something like a cross-over connection, for special cases |
| 04:51.59 | bluregard | jdas, 24V |
| 04:52.08 | jdas | Oh |
| 04:52.13 | tzafrir_home | 48V, actually |
| 04:52.40 | jdas | Wait |
| 04:52.44 | jdas | I need 48v? |
| 04:52.53 | bluregard | no wait, my polycom is on a 12V |
| 04:53.16 | bluregard | jdas, you should be able to find detailed specs |
| 04:53.36 | coppice | try a light switch |
| 04:53.39 | bluregard | gotta go, wife beckons |
| 04:53.44 | bluregard | later all |
| 04:54.18 | jdas | Doesn't say |
| 04:54.39 | timgws | http://digg.com/software/Yahoo_Inc_purchases_ShareSource |
| 04:55.57 | adorah | PoE - the whole fuss just to save a power adapter by replacing it with another one.. |
| 04:56.33 | adorah | by a differnt name.. |
| 04:57.24 | coppice | that's not the real issue |
| 04:58.01 | coppice | centralising power, where UPSing it is a lot easier is the real win. also, phones with a single lead are a big plus |
| 04:59.02 | tzanger | coppice: also getting new equipment (managed, powered switches) is a big plus |
| 04:59.12 | adorah | It is not enough to justify the extra cost for an end-point |
| 04:59.28 | tzafrir_home | analog (and ISDN) phones have it built in... |
| 05:00.00 | InHisName | Eliminate 8 wall warts for one wall wart. 7 watts each x 7 x 24 hrs x 30 days = 5.40 mo savings. |
| 05:00.15 | coppice | when people pay $1000 for a cisco access point that does what a $50 Linksys from the same company does, they aren't really that concerned |
| 05:01.00 | timgws | InHisName: mo? |
| 05:01.02 | adorah | Those with no budget concerns buy also Cisco softswitch :P |
| 05:01.23 | coppice | well, not always, as they find it sucks |
| 05:01.32 | keith4 | oh man, I was so excited to see a "Mass Deployment" page in Snom's wiki.... but then it made me sad |
| 05:01.41 | jdas | Question |
| 05:01.42 | keith4 | http://wiki.snom.com/Features/Mass_Deployment/DHCP |
| 05:01.44 | InHisName | no budget concern companies also have the over paid CEOs etc. |
| 05:01.54 | jdas | If I have a standard landline phone and I want to hook it up to an Asterisk solution |
| 05:01.58 | jdas | What hardware do I need? |
| 05:02.04 | keith4 | you need a POTS card |
| 05:02.09 | jdas | I can't just use a v92 modem, right? |
| 05:02.10 | jdas | Ah |
| 05:02.19 | jdas | How much are those? |
| 05:02.27 | keith4 | there's like one (1) modem chipset that's kinda supported, and you probably don't have it |
| 05:02.35 | keith4 | depends how many ports you want |
| 05:02.39 | jdas | Only need 2 |
| 05:02.47 | coppice | anyway, PoE switches are not that expensive these days, especially if you use he ones where only a few ports have PoE - which is a typical requirement |
| 05:02.58 | keith4 | or a PoE bank |
| 05:03.07 | InHisName | I have 9 ATAs & it gives me 18 extensions for my *, jdas |
| 05:03.17 | jdas | What? |
| 05:03.18 | coppice | keith4: with sub-prime lending issues? |
| 05:03.21 | jdas | Lost me |
| 05:03.28 | keith4 | coppice: probably ;-) |
| 05:03.32 | tzafrir_home | InHisName, PSTN lines, not extensions |
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| 05:03.46 | keith4 | jdas: you want to use an analog trunk, right? |
| 05:03.56 | jdas | Um...what? |
| 05:04.04 | jdas | Sorry, I'm new to this |
| 05:04.17 | keith4 | you have plain ol' analog phone service from the phone company? |
| 05:04.24 | keith4 | and you want to connect an asterisk box to it? |
| 05:04.25 | jdas | Yes |
| 05:04.31 | adorah | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:04.32 | jdas | Well |
| 05:04.34 | InHisName | jdas, asked how to cnx standard landline phone to *, I said how I do it. |
| 05:04.34 | jdas | No |
| 05:04.55 | jdas | What I really want to do right now is more of a project than practical |
| 05:05.02 | jdas | An intercom system, essentially |
| 05:05.21 | keith4 | you might be able to ebay a single-port digium card, but I don't think they make them anymore |
| 05:05.49 | InHisName | not phone but phone company ? then use Linksys 3000 - one phone cnx and one phone company cnx [fxo & fxs] |
| 05:06.04 | adorah | There r cheap generic x100p but quality is low |
| 05:06.34 | keith4 | oh, wait. he said he wants two ports |
| 05:06.39 | keith4 | jdas: http://www.telephonydepot.com/product_p/105-050-tdm410p.htm |
| 05:07.21 | jdas | Eek |
| 05:07.28 | jdas | This was intended to be a...cheap...project ;) |
| 05:07.46 | keith4 | stick with SIP then |
| 05:08.24 | adorah | <jdas>Than buy a generic x100p AYOR fro 18-25$ |
| 05:09.26 | jcaceres | tzanger: i know this question is probably for other channel but if i am using trixbox would it be possible to recompile just ztmonitot it if i get the correct sources? |
| 05:18.24 | tzafrir_home | jcaceres, what version of zaptel do you currently use? |
| 05:18.53 | tzafrir_home | If you use a version that is too ancient, than the new version won't work with your kernel-mode Zaptel |
| 05:19.03 | tzafrir_home | needs to document that too... |
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| 05:42.55 | InHisName | I am trying to call other sip companies via ekiga.net format: *363500 My dial plan needs to be fixed. What to add to it ? |
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| 06:25.35 | SteveTotaro | anyone awake? |
| 06:27.43 | timgws | no |
| 06:30.49 | jcaceres | ¬¬ am sleepy |
| 06:30.59 | jcaceres | why? |
| 06:31.25 | drmessano | I want a muffin |
| 06:31.32 | drmessano | A really REALLY GOOD muffin |
| 06:32.58 | InHisName | SteveTotaro, I am awake for a few more minutes |
| 06:33.32 | SteveTotaro | just woke up and am wide awake |
| 06:33.39 | SteveTotaro | cannot get back to sleep |
| 06:33.56 | SteveTotaro | has anyone used Druid? |
| 06:34.36 | SteveTotaro | I am going to try to convice a customer with five offices away from fonality pbxtra to Druid |
| 06:34.54 | InHisName | SteveTotaro, probably not since I don't know what it is. |
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| 06:35.39 | SteveTotaro | besides I do not really care for fonality, the demos for druid look great |
| 06:35.57 | SteveTotaro | and they have a fee or paid version as well as support packages |
| 06:36.08 | drmessano | Druids are weak.. add the Paladin and save your cloudsong for the last level |
| 06:36.24 | SteveTotaro | with fonality, i only make 10%, that is crap |
| 06:37.43 | SteveTotaro | damn google puts ideas into people's heads like Fonality is great |
| 06:37.52 | SteveTotaro | realtime rocks |
| 06:38.08 | SteveTotaro | iax IS the answer! |
| 06:40.55 | drmessano | Fonality is poo |
| 06:42.41 | SteveTotaro | yes but any guy with google that is easily swayed by marketing, uys the hype |
| 06:42.44 | tzafrir | well, how much experince do you have with Druid? |
| 06:43.00 | SteveTotaro | i would rather go free but switchvox is also a possibility |
| 06:43.25 | tzafrir | Something that annoys me with all of them: leave the tftp area world writable. |
| 06:43.36 | SteveTotaro | none yet but my learning curve is that off a cliff |
| 06:44.09 | SteveTotaro | cant you just disable that in inetd? |
| 06:44.29 | tzafrir | I figure you can. Or kill the daemon. Or whatever |
| 06:44.38 | drmessano | Sure.. ever help a 100% GUI Trixbox user? |
| 06:45.07 | SteveTotaro | not trixbox but many freepbx installs |
| 06:45.46 | SteveTotaro | end user wants a user portal to manage their own settings, voicemail, followme, etc... |
| 06:45.54 | drmessano | Not knocking anyone, but the expectation is that someone with a skill set juyst above an end user can deploy it.. so things like "ZOMG, weak passwords" need to be considered by the builder of the project, with the expectation that the installer can't/won't fix |
| 06:46.03 | drmessano | So things like that end up being HUGE problems |
| 06:46.42 | SteveTotaro | you are right, i have experimented in this area |
| 06:46.45 | tzafrir | what is a weak password? |
| 06:46.59 | SteveTotaro | 1234 |
| 06:47.26 | drmessano | password |
| 06:47.27 | SteveTotaro | or exten = pass |
| 06:47.30 | tzafrir | If you expect it to be accessible both through a soft-phone and a fial-pad phone, you have different things |
| 06:47.35 | SteveTotaro | 100:100 |
| 06:48.06 | tzafrir | exten=pass is a way to make sure you don't accidentally get into someone else's voicemail :-( |
| 06:48.23 | SteveTotaro | yes, very common too |
| 06:48.42 | tzafrir | Is it such a big deal for a SIP user to try all the 4-digit combinations? |
| 06:49.45 | SteveTotaro | well my customer has two offices with T1s turned up, I plan on bringing in two Druid systems and see if he likes it, if not, then I will continue with the Fonality that he is so set on. |
| 06:50.57 | SteveTotaro | $1,600 for a commodity server seems high |
| 06:51.49 | SteveTotaro | only has 512 RAM and two 80 gig mirrored sata drives, pentium 4, 3 ghz single core |
| 06:52.20 | SteveTotaro | $45 to provision a phone! |
| 06:53.01 | SteveTotaro | they totally avoided the question of installing a sangoma or other card |
| 06:55.57 | SteveTotaro | Hey Tzafrir, have you checked out the new URI for app_rpt? |
| 06:56.06 | tzafrir | no |
| 06:56.13 | tzafrir | what is it? |
| 06:56.22 | SteveTotaro | i will have three nodes online this week |
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| 06:56.36 | SteveTotaro | ties two way radio into asterisk |
| 06:58.32 | SteveTotaro | there is so much potential in 3rd word countries or otherwise remote locations |
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| 08:09.14 | CCFL_Man2 | i'm not sure what gsm modem to get |
| 08:09.31 | CCFL_Man2 | i just want one for sms messaging |
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| 08:33.57 | jcaceres | CCFL_Man2, does asterisk has integration with sms messaging? |
| 08:34.38 | jcaceres | maybe a cellphone with bluetooth |
| 08:37.57 | DarKnesS_WolF | jcaceres: check application sms |
| 08:39.12 | tzafrir | (If your telco supports it) |
| 08:48.20 | DarKnesS_WolF | tzafrir: XR1000 supports G729 passthrow ? |
| 08:48.32 | tzafrir | passthrough? sure |
| 08:48.36 | tzafrir | that's really trivial |
| 08:49.30 | DarKnesS_WolF | tzafrir: cool will test right now :-) |
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| 09:15.32 | felipex | hi at all |
| 09:15.48 | felipex | what use for isdn bri hfc based card? |
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| 09:20.22 | tzafrir | felipex, if you find it useless, please send it to me |
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| 09:21.33 | peimei | anyone have any idea why I get a "originate failed"? WOuld like some pointers as to where to start looking :D |
| 09:21.46 | tzafrir | felipex, well, it can be used to connect Asterisk to an ISDN BRI connection. Which is nice and digital |
| 09:22.33 | tzafrir | peimei, how did you originate? through the manager interface? through the 'originate' command in the CLI? |
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| 09:22.55 | peimei | It is done through adhearsion actually |
| 09:23.06 | peimei | And to be honest I am a total asterisk noob |
| 09:23.24 | peimei | actually, yes it comes through the manager |
| 09:23.30 | peimei | asterisk_ami call |
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| 09:25.14 | peimei | So I can register through sip just fine, when the login action is called through the manager it works, but the next call through the manager is originate and it fails (this is where I am supposed to be connecting a call) |
| 09:27.44 | felipex | tzafrir bristuff ? |
| 09:28.16 | tzafrir | Right. Or asterisk 1.6 without bristuff (with just a small patch to Zaptel) |
| 09:29.07 | felipex | tzafrir i use debian |
| 09:29.21 | felipex | i see the package asterisk-bristuff |
| 09:29.24 | felipex | i try that |
| 09:30.00 | tzafrir | felipex, what distro is it? Etch? |
| 09:31.11 | felipex | tzafrir yes |
| 09:34.26 | tzafrir | ok. you need to build zaptel modules with: m-a a-i zaptel (install zaptel-source first) |
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| 09:41.07 | MACscr | what's the replacement for sip debug? |
| 09:47.20 | tzafrir | MACscr, replacement where? |
| 09:47.27 | tzafrir | sip set debug? |
| 09:47.40 | tzafrir | (sip <tab><tab>?) |
| 09:48.19 | MACscr | tzafrir: sorry, first time using 1.4. I am used to 1.2 |
| 09:55.28 | MACscr | tzafrir: for some reason it says that: sip set, isn't even a known command |
| 09:55.40 | MACscr | when I look at help, sip doesn't seem to be an option |
| 09:56.06 | tzafrir | sip set <tab><tab> ? |
| 09:59.31 | hi365 | i dont get it: every change to asterisk source requires libpri/zaptel/asterisk/asterisk addons to be rebuilt??? |
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| 10:05.53 | MACscr | tzafrir: that doesn't work. That should work with 1.4, right? |
| 10:06.07 | tzafrir | right |
| 10:06.21 | tzafrir | in 1.2 it's 'sip debug' |
| 10:06.54 | MACscr | im running Asterisk 1.4.18.1 |
| 10:07.38 | MACscr | I must be missing something. So odd that sip isn't showing as an option in help |
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| 10:32.53 | hwt | hi. i have an asterisk and a ser. most of the users are registered on the ser, but some are registered on asterisk. what would be the best way to try ast first, then pass on to ser for inbound calls? |
| 10:33.05 | hwt | right now i am using the invalid (i) extension. |
| 10:33.32 | hwt | with a switch => for the registered (local) users. they are in Realtime |
| 10:41.18 | hi365 | where's the best place to ask about spandsp? |
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| 10:47.00 | coppice | what do you want to know? |
| 11:07.01 | hi365 | coppice: thanks. i was getting an error about not finding the lib's. but after RTFM things started working :) |
| 11:07.05 | hi365 | i dont get it: every change to asterisk source requires libpri/zaptel/asterisk/asterisk addons to be rebuilt??? |
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| 11:12.29 | pa | is there some module for asterisk which allow to do softfax? |
| 11:12.55 | pa | like using voip, or isdn or gsm and sending fax on it? |
| 11:13.07 | pa | (or receiving fax) |
| 11:13.15 | pa | (eventually= |
| 11:13.15 | pa | ) |
| 11:14.08 | hi365 | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/app_rxfax+and+app_txfax ? |
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| 11:17.10 | pa | thanks |
| 11:21.03 | tzafrir | hi365, not really sure about a mailing list (actually waiting for coppice to answer about that), but |
| 11:21.38 | tzafrir | spandsp does not depend on libpri and asterisk. Some samples depend on Zaptel, but not the library itself, IIRC |
| 11:22.11 | tzafrir | hi365, hmm... sorry, misread |
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| 11:23.16 | NielsNL | Hallo all, |
| 11:24.17 | NielsNL | I'm trying to setup a asteriskWin32 server with a ISDN card |
| 11:25.06 | NielsNL | I can see the card using CLI> CAPI INFO |
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| 11:25.34 | abuyazan | hello |
| 11:25.46 | NielsNL | And when i call the ISDN number is see the incomming call |
| 11:26.07 | abuyazan | how can i put the dst phone number in recording the out calls |
| 11:26.58 | abuyazan | can you guide me where to start reading about this |
| 11:27.18 | NielsNL | but when is try to call out i get this: " Didn't find capi device for interface 'ISDN1' |
| 11:30.17 | NielsNL | it is very quiet |
| 11:31.34 | loompek | what's the right directory structure for asterisk sounds? for i18n |
| 11:31.53 | loompek | all the files are in /var/lib/asterisk by default.. right? |
| 11:32.32 | Unlockgod | yo guys |
| 11:38.11 | tzafrir | NielsNL, does it support capi? |
| 11:38.16 | abuyazan | from where this variable get ($timestamp = $argv[1]) |
| 11:38.43 | NielsNL | yes, i belief zo, tzafrir |
| 11:38.49 | abuyazan | $argv[1] where this variable come from |
| 11:43.19 | NielsNL | tzafrir: http://www.asteriskwin32.com/chan_capi.php |
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| 12:07.25 | InHisName | I am trying to call other sip companies via ekiga.net format: *363500 My dial plan needs to be fixed. What to add to it ? |
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| 13:17.44 | R-MAN | hey guys |
| 13:18.00 | R-MAN | anyone using sipgate as a trunk? |
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| 13:47.22 | riddlebox | ~ITSP |
| 13:47.23 | jbot | [~itsp] An ITSP is an Internet telephony Service Provider or "VoIP Telephone company". The allow you to either PLACE calls to the PSTN (called Termination), RECEIVE calls from the PSTN (called Origination), or both. Some offer fixed rates, others $/min. Enter ~itsplist-us (USA) or ~itsplist-ca (Canada) for a listing of popular ITSPs |
| 13:47.34 | riddlebox | ~itsplist-us |
| 13:47.35 | jbot | [~itsplist-us] Here are some popular ITSPs (USA) starting with the more respected ones : http://www.teliax.com , http://connect.voicepulse.com , http://www.nufone.net , http://www.broadvoice.com, or http://www.jnctn.com, or http://www.bandwidth.com, or http://vitelity.net |
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| 14:01.35 | riddlebox | does anyone know what is stopping itsp's from porting cell phone numbers? |
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| 14:03.02 | SteveTotaro | i sure wish that cell phones GPS, i hate losing them |
| 14:03.09 | Katty | hai |
| 14:04.05 | SteveTotaro | the damn thing is still on, it rings for over five rings but i have gone everywhere i thought it may be and hear nothing |
| 14:04.16 | SteveTotaro | hopefully it is not on vibrate |
| 14:04.45 | Katty | you shouldput a proximity beeper on it |
| 14:05.08 | riddlebox | SteveTotaro, check your car |
| 14:05.14 | SteveTotaro | well i have five extra phones (v3s) so it is no big deal |
| 14:05.18 | riddlebox | leaves his there all the time |
| 14:05.39 | SteveTotaro | i checked my car, not only that, i cleaned it for the first time since last summer ;) |
| 14:05.46 | riddlebox | lol |
| 14:06.29 | SteveTotaro | now i can actually give people rides and there is room and i am not embarassed by the piles of tech stuff in the back seat |
| 14:07.12 | Katty | i need to do that too |
| 14:07.15 | Katty | mine's a disaster |
| 14:07.16 | SteveTotaro | the downside is, right when i need that part in the bottom of a box that was in my backseat, i won't have it |
| 14:08.36 | SteveTotaro | i mean, i have a collection of every db25 to db9, cat5, null modem, crossover, any connector you could imagine |
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| 14:08.55 | riddlebox | SteveTotaro, I have that as well, but its in a work van |
| 14:09.26 | SteveTotaro | my work van is a cavalier, much better gas milage |
| 14:09.47 | SteveTotaro | my other work vehicle is a kawasaki 454 LDT |
| 14:10.01 | SteveTotaro | can't beat 50 mpg |
| 14:10.32 | Katty | i just have shoes, and goodwill boxes in my car. |
| 14:10.37 | Katty | and a couple tech books |
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| 14:10.56 | SteveTotaro | Katty, are things so bad you need Goodwill? |
| 14:11.07 | Katty | SteveTotaro: no, boxes that go /to/ goodwill (= |
| 14:11.13 | SteveTotaro | lol |
| 14:11.15 | Katty | SteveTotaro: but i like goodwill. they have neat things sometimes. |
| 14:11.27 | Katty | SteveTotaro: i get tons of lil plushie ferret toys there |
| 14:11.36 | SteveTotaro | i give to Amvets |
| 14:11.40 | riddlebox | SteveTotaro, thats why I like working for someone else ;) they supply me with everything I need |
| 14:11.51 | Katty | don't think we have an Amvets around here. we have a salvation army tho |
| 14:12.20 | SteveTotaro | i have everything i need, i just need organization |
| 14:12.48 | SteveTotaro | motivation and organization are my weaknesses but i am seeking help |
| 14:12.48 | Katty | i could use to get rid of a lot more stuff. |
| 14:12.51 | riddlebox | man I wish it would stop raining here, water is starting to come into my basement |
| 14:12.58 | Katty | we have big ole monitors in this house, and ancient towers |
| 14:13.06 | SteveTotaro | sump pump working? |
| 14:13.21 | Katty | also got a big desk i need to get rid of, and i'd like to put a... arm...something forget what's its called. holds tvs |
| 14:13.26 | riddlebox | SteveTotaro, yeah but the water is coming from 2 walls that are near a drain |
| 14:13.43 | SteveTotaro | i got rid of all that stuff, just kept my commodore, timex sinclair, and game consoles |
| 14:14.51 | SteveTotaro | installing fc9beta and asterisk 1.6beta, wonder how stable it will be 8-) |
| 14:15.38 | SteveTotaro | probably as stable as the guy talking about running multiple instances of asterisk in xen |
| 14:17.02 | SteveTotaro | going to put druid on a separate drive and see how good it is |
| 14:18.04 | SteveTotaro | i have a customer sold of fonality and pbxtra, i would prefer him to go switchvox or druid if it is any good, just a preference against fonality |
| 14:18.17 | SteveTotaro | as a reseller, i only get 10% of the take |
| 14:20.16 | SteveTotaro | i should get some residuals based on support contracts |
| 14:20.20 | Dovid | can anyone help me with http://pastebin.ca/963372 |
| 14:21.43 | SteveTotaro | Dovid: make && make install |
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| 14:22.40 | SteveTotaro | you didn't run the ./configure script first |
| 14:22.41 | Dovid | Steve: sane error |
| 14:22.55 | SteveTotaro | did you try ./configure first? |
| 14:23.13 | Dovid | yes |
| 14:23.28 | Dovid | that throws no errors |
| 14:23.47 | SteveTotaro | i so /bootstrap /configure /make clean /make && make installl |
| 14:23.54 | SteveTotaro | what version of zaptel |
| 14:23.55 | SteveTotaro | ? |
| 14:24.02 | Dovid | 1.4.9.2 |
| 14:24.20 | SteveTotaro | is that the latest and greatest? |
| 14:24.22 | Dovid | boot strap throws an eror |
| 14:24.25 | Dovid | yup |
| 14:24.28 | Dovid | dont know about greatest |
| 14:24.34 | SteveTotaro | did you do a make clean |
| 14:24.42 | Dovid | that just loops away |
| 14:24.43 | SteveTotaro | any patches? |
| 14:24.50 | Dovid | nope |
| 14:24.50 | Dovid | clean download |
| 14:25.05 | SteveTotaro | open a bug on mantis, besides that, i have no idea |
| 14:25.18 | SteveTotaro | go with an earlier version of zaptel |
| 14:25.26 | Dovid | i think i will try that |
| 14:25.27 | Katty | i just burnedmy finger :< |
| 14:25.37 | Dovid | if earlier works than i will open up a ticket on the bug tracker |
| 14:25.58 | SteveTotaro | Katty, put down the crack pipe, it is too early on a Sunday for that |
| 14:26.25 | Katty | i was lighting an apple pie candle thankyouverymuch |
| 14:27.02 | SteveTotaro | i used to smoke P*t through apples in college |
| 14:28.35 | SteveTotaro | let's see is fc8 rocks my world or is a dud like vista |
| 14:28.49 | SteveTotaro | *fc9* |
| 14:29.30 | tzafrir | Dovid, if you look at the makefile there, you'll see that there is an explicit 'exit 1' |
| 14:29.30 | SteveTotaro | Katty, was the cadle made in china? |
| 14:29.37 | tzafrir | You should run ./configure before make |
| 14:29.48 | SteveTotaro | i told him that |
| 14:29.56 | tzafrir | now just run 'make' and move along |
| 14:30.20 | SteveTotaro | but if you run make someone was smart enough to have it go and do configure |
| 14:30.46 | SteveTotaro | why does udev take longer and longer to start on all of my systems? |
| 14:31.01 | tzafrir | longer and longer? compared to what? |
| 14:31.16 | SteveTotaro | to what is used to take silly |
| 14:31.22 | SteveTotaro | relatively speaking |
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| 14:32.14 | Dovid | steve i am working my way back. 1.4.8 is not working either. |
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| 14:32.19 | Dovid | i am thinking it is my server ;) |
| 14:32.21 | SteveTotaro | well fc9 doesn't like my video card |
| 14:32.31 | SteveTotaro | are you doing configure first |
| 14:32.39 | Dovid | of course i am |
| 14:32.42 | Dovid | that works with no issue |
| 14:33.09 | boblutz | fc9? |
| 14:33.15 | Dovid | CentOS |
| 14:33.54 | SteveTotaro | no, i am building the most stable asterisk server evar with FC9beta and asterisk1.6beta running xen |
| 14:34.38 | boblutz | Are you building zaptel drivers? |
| 14:35.12 | SteveTotaro | nah, i dont mess with that pokeman stuff |
| 14:35.19 | boblutz | pokemon? |
| 14:35.23 | SteveTotaro | it was a joke |
| 14:35.30 | boblutz | oic lol |
| 14:42.17 | SteveTotaro | ATI video cards and linux suxor |
| 14:42.36 | boblutz | i concur |
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| 14:43.11 | SteveTotaro | i cant get x to start with the vesa driver or radeon |
| 14:45.42 | boblutz | malformed xorg.conf? |
| 14:46.14 | SteveTotaro | it is a fresh fc9beta install |
| 14:46.21 | SteveTotaro | beta=bugs |
| 14:46.52 | SteveTotaro | only problem is i have stacks of ATI cards but no Nvidia |
| 14:47.01 | boblutz | SteveTotaro, Is it true you are on the Fedora dev team? |
| 14:47.29 | SteveTotaro | do but i like it for my HTPC |
| 14:48.34 | SteveTotaro | but without the proper ATI driver support, watching a DVD is like watching one of those paper flip book movies |
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| 14:48.59 | boblutz | im getting 0wn3d by CPAN right now |
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| 14:50.39 | SteveTotaro | if i use Radeon, i get a halfway garbled screen, the mouse moves, but i cannot login |
| 14:52.07 | boblutz | ati + amd = ftl |
| 14:52.13 | boblutz | intel + nvidia = ftw |
| 14:52.47 | SteveTotaro | might have to shell out a few bucks |
| 14:52.49 | boblutz | rocks 7900gt + 2gigs ram on a minimal fluxbox desktop |
| 14:53.16 | boblutz | SteveTotaro, If you are in the 614 area I can lend you an nvidia card |
| 14:53.34 | SteveTotaro | balto/dc area |
| 14:53.45 | boblutz | o |
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| 14:54.09 | SteveTotaro | seems to be alot of good deals on http://forums.anandtech.com hot deals |
| 14:54.13 | SteveTotaro | or fleabay |
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| 14:55.11 | SteveTotaro | i am in the 410,301,240,443 area, lol |
| 14:55.53 | boblutz | hah |
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| 15:04.48 | SteveTotaro | hoping yum update might have better ati support but doubtful |
| 15:05.19 | SteveTotaro | funny thing is driver "vesa" always has worked in the past although slow as hell |
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| 15:07.12 | boblutz | im going out of town tomorrow on business, i need to go pack |
| 15:07.26 | erwinpogz | hello good day to all, is there any documents how to make a predictive dialer out of asterisk? |
| 15:07.34 | SteveTotaro | have a fun, safe and productive trip |
| 15:07.41 | boblutz | SteveTotaro, Thanks! |
| 15:07.49 | SteveTotaro | vicidial is very popular |
| 15:08.24 | erwinpogz | SteveTotaro i tried but i got troubles installing it. i want to make my own.. a simple one |
| 15:08.41 | SteveTotaro | you may be my man then |
| 15:08.54 | SteveTotaro | i could never get the damn thing to install either |
| 15:09.12 | SteveTotaro | i told matt that at astricon, we spoke together |
| 15:09.21 | SteveTotaro | about large scale call centers |
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| 15:09.28 | erwinpogz | SteveTotaro i tried installing it and i cant get it work on my system |
| 15:09.43 | SteveTotaro | how big is your operation? |
| 15:09.55 | erwinpogz | like 50 seats |
| 15:10.47 | SteveTotaro | all selling the same product? |
| 15:10.47 | erwinpogz | no, not all |
| 15:10.56 | SteveTotaro | do you get leads from infousa or similar list sellers? |
| 15:11.15 | erwinpogz | i have lead gen team |
| 15:11.52 | SteveTotaro | 608meg to update fc9beta :'( |
| 15:12.07 | SteveTotaro | i have a VERY basic dialer |
| 15:12.19 | erwinpogz | SteveTotaro what is it? |
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| 15:12.50 | SteveTotaro | it is not public yet. I plan having it under the GPL with less features and a hosted version that is feature rich |
| 15:13.26 | SteveTotaro | when i say basic, i mean BASIC |
| 15:13.32 | erwinpogz | thats also whats on my mind.. "made my own" after trying vicidial and gnudialer |
| 15:13.52 | SteveTotaro | each agent imports their leads into a db |
| 15:14.27 | SteveTotaro | the agent or supervisor sets the simultaneous number of outbound calls, so let's say five at a time |
| 15:14.28 | erwinpogz | when can it be public? i want to join the dev |
| 15:14.48 | SteveTotaro | the first one that answers will terminate the other four calls |
| 15:15.09 | SteveTotaro | it uses ajax and pops all the info you imported from your DB onto the screen instantly |
| 15:15.52 | SteveTotaro | the only bugs i need to work out are compliance as far as hanging up on the other four calls |
| 15:16.38 | SteveTotaro | if they are just ringing, no problem, answering machine is no problem, but a live person is |
| 15:16.45 | erwinpogz | ahh proper handling |
| 15:16.57 | erwinpogz | are you using queue? |
| 15:16.58 | SteveTotaro | i need to code that to transfer to another agent |
| 15:17.15 | SteveTotaro | i wrote a new asterisk app |
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| 15:17.38 | SteveTotaro | it was called multicall but there is already a product called multicall so i went with AsterDial |
| 15:18.33 | erwinpogz | anyway, i need to do a research on this.. brb |
| 15:18.38 | erwinpogz | thanks SteveTotaro |
| 15:18.43 | SteveTotaro | the real idea is for very small shops with one or two telemarketers to be able to start marketing the same day as signing up |
| 15:18.50 | SteveTotaro | yeah, no problem |
| 15:19.00 | SteveTotaro | if you want to beta test let me know |
| 15:19.56 | erwinpogz | okay :D |
| 15:21.27 | erwinpogz | right now, my 50 agents are dialling manually |
| 15:21.46 | SteveTotaro | well this idea came from the mortgage meltdown |
| 15:21.59 | SteveTotaro | my college roomates were all in the mortgage biz |
| 15:22.13 | erwinpogz | i tried astercrm dialler but sometimes it freezes asterisk |
| 15:22.14 | SteveTotaro | and hired telemarketers to manually dial numbers |
| 15:22.45 | erwinpogz | manual dialling takes time |
| 15:22.48 | SteveTotaro | now they cannot afford the telemarketers and hate manually dialing since it is such a waste of time |
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| 15:23.39 | SteveTotaro | yes, so i figure five simultaneous calls automatically, it will really help |
| 15:23.50 | jdas | Hey. Anyone looking for a Polycom IP4000? |
| 15:23.52 | SteveTotaro | when one is answered, it pauses the campaign |
| 15:24.10 | SteveTotaro | until the resume button is clicked |
| 15:25.02 | SteveTotaro | well the code and system is all setup |
| 15:25.31 | SteveTotaro | the one thing missing is a piece to define what fields need to go where in a dynamic database |
| 15:25.47 | SteveTotaro | right now it is hard coded to a csv export from infousa |
| 15:25.48 | erwinpogz | ok |
| 15:26.15 | SteveTotaro | should be done mid week |
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| 15:27.00 | SteveTotaro | what line of business are you in? |
| 15:27.17 | erwinpogz | SteveTotaro, where can we monitor the first public release of your project? |
| 15:27.58 | SteveTotaro | i will announce it |
| 15:27.58 | SteveTotaro | what is your line of work? |
| 15:27.58 | SteveTotaro | i want a GPL version and a hosted version |
| 15:28.00 | erwinpogz | inbound and outbount |
| 15:28.03 | ManxPower | There is an entire level of Dante's Hell reserved just for telemarketers, you know. |
| 15:28.21 | SteveTotaro | the hosted version could employ niche business |
| 15:29.11 | SteveTotaro | manx, telemarketers keep the economy strong (well not so much anymore, coincidence, do not call list, resession/depression) |
| 15:29.51 | SteveTotaro | if you scrub your lists and do things within the guidelines, telemarketing is fine |
| 15:30.11 | SteveTotaro | inbound and outbound what? |
| 15:30.15 | SteveTotaro | what do you sell? |
| 15:30.26 | SteveTotaro | your line of work, or do you just handle a call center |
| 15:31.59 | erwinpogz | i handle the IT part of the center. we sell toners&inks/internet connectivity/electricity/phone |
| 15:32.17 | erwinpogz | inboud is healthcare |
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| 15:32.52 | erwinpogz | its a hardselling products, but it need this for a start. |
| 15:33.04 | erwinpogz | it/i |
| 15:33.35 | SteveTotaro | do you think the system i described would be beneficial to your needs? |
| 15:34.04 | erwinpogz | i wont go for hosted |
| 15:34.14 | SteveTotaro | i can make it impossible to install like vicidial |
| 15:34.22 | erwinpogz | i have IPL lines to avoid hosting solutions |
| 15:34.36 | SteveTotaro | like matt florell, so you have to pay $200/hr for his help |
| 15:36.14 | SteveTotaro | that is why i would go a few routes. hosted for people that don't have the infrastructure or tech savy, GPL for you guys, maybe an appliance one day, and of course the obligatory paypal donate button |
| 15:36.35 | SteveTotaro | customization would be another huge offering |
| 15:36.40 | erwinpogz | ya right |
| 15:37.27 | SteveTotaro | why pay a guy making a high salary to do something that I can get one of my devs in third world countries to do it cheaper and better? |
| 15:37.39 | erwinpogz | im looking into vicidialnow.org maybe it will work |
| 15:38.14 | erwinpogz | SteveTotaro where you from |
| 15:39.48 | SteveTotaro | dc/balto metro area |
| 15:40.29 | SteveTotaro | what is this vicidailnow.org thing it is not loading for me |
| 15:41.19 | SteveTotaro | vicidail iso? |
| 15:41.55 | SteveTotaro | I just don't like the idea of everything being a meetme room, but whatever works |
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| 15:42.16 | SteveTotaro | with app_bridge, he could do away with all that mess |
| 15:45.35 | erwinpogz | its an ISO |
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| 15:45.52 | erwinpogz | yes its meetme |
| 15:45.53 | erwinpogz | lol |
| 15:47.42 | drmessano | Whoa |
| 15:47.51 | drmessano | Your app was inspired by the mortgage business? |
| 15:47.55 | drmessano | Does it pray too? |
| 15:48.35 | SteveTotaro | good friends in the mortgage industry |
| 15:49.11 | SteveTotaro | they were making 1/4 million a year before the meltdown |
| 15:49.22 | drmessano | They need app_voodoo as well |
| 15:49.35 | drmessano | or app_divineintervention |
| 15:49.53 | SteveTotaro | nah, they are good businessmen |
| 15:50.12 | SteveTotaro | quick to change |
| 15:50.14 | drmessano | Who said anything about their skill level? Have you seen the housing market? lol |
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| 15:50.43 | SteveTotaro | i gave them copies of "who moved my cheese" |
| 15:50.54 | SteveTotaro | yes, who said anything about staying in the housing market? |
| 15:51.11 | drmessano | oh ok |
| 15:51.31 | SteveTotaro | besides, DC area is not hurt too badly by housing crisis |
| 15:51.39 | SteveTotaro | or resession |
| 15:51.52 | SteveTotaro | we have all your tax dollars ;) |
| 15:51.56 | drmessano | heh |
| 15:52.20 | SteveTotaro | how come i can not download vicidialnow iso |
| 15:52.27 | the_5th_wheel | has anyone here had any experience with atcom phones? |
| 15:52.36 | drmessano | My wife and I were talking about waiting a year to buy a house.. we may end up doing it in the next 6 months if things keep getting worse |
| 15:52.39 | SteveTotaro | http://ftp.vicidialnow.org/pub/VicidialNOW/1.0.1/ISO/vicidialnow-1.0.1.iso |
| 15:52.41 | drmessano | Good stuff |
| 15:52.55 | SteveTotaro | i will buy in a year |
| 15:53.05 | SteveTotaro | renting is the only way to go right now |
| 15:53.19 | drmessano | Its a buyers market if you have the dough |
| 15:53.39 | SteveTotaro | buy and watch your paper loss over the next year or more |
| 15:53.45 | tzafrir | the_5th_wheel, I've seen some people use them. They're not that bad |
| 15:53.54 | erwinpogz | SteveTotaro: thats where i got my ISO too |
| 15:53.57 | erwinpogz | BRB |
| 15:54.03 | the_5th_wheel | tzafrir: better than grandstreams? |
| 15:54.18 | SteveTotaro | when i click the link it just opens a page of code |
| 15:54.37 | tzafrir | Not sure. There are not too many vendors of IAX-capable devices |
| 15:54.41 | SteveTotaro | 594 megs of code in my browser |
| 15:54.51 | drmessano | SteveTotaro: Sure, it will continue to go down.. but a $150,000 house selling for $100,000.. if it drops to $90,000 after you buy it before dipping back up to $150,000 next years, who cares about the bump.. |
| 15:54.54 | SteveTotaro | iaxy |
| 15:55.18 | SteveTotaro | i am afraid of depression |
| 15:55.29 | drmessano | Try Zoloft |
| 15:55.57 | SteveTotaro | we shall see but nothing i selling and it has been that way for a long time |
| 15:56.08 | SteveTotaro | jobs loss is huge |
| 15:56.23 | Dovid | Tzafrir: can you help me with this ? http://pastebin.ca/963442 |
| 15:56.47 | SteveTotaro | dollar is barely worth the paper it is printed on |
| 15:57.00 | Dovid | haha |
| 15:57.22 | tzafrir | Dovid, haven't SteveTotaro and I already told you today what this is? |
| 15:57.45 | Dovid | i think its my box cause i went all way back to 1.4.6 and i get the same error |
| 15:57.59 | drmessano | 1.4.6? |
| 15:58.02 | drmessano | Holy crap |
| 15:58.12 | Dovid | zaptel 1.4.6 |
| 15:58.15 | drmessano | oh |
| 15:58.36 | tzafrir | Dovid, and did you try to read the message, or what we've told you about it? |
| 15:58.52 | Dovid | all i got from steve that it may be a bug |
| 15:59.09 | tzafrir | There's a deliberate 'exit 1' there. Just next time run ./configure before make |
| 15:59.23 | Dovid | i did run configure. |
| 15:59.28 | tzafrir | For now just run 'make' and carry on |
| 15:59.57 | erwinpogz | SteveTotaro, right click on the link and "save as" |
| 16:00.12 | drmessano | Dovid, check your system time |
| 16:00.16 | Dovid | ran configure and make and make again same issue |
| 16:00.21 | drmessano | I want to play, but I can't |
| 16:00.30 | Dovid | that can be it |
| 16:02.03 | drmessano | It shocking how error messages actually tell you what a problem is |
| 16:03.54 | SteveTotaro | i had to use IE to get it to download |
| 16:05.33 | Dovid | drmessano: Where did u see the time error ? |
| 16:06.10 | SteveTotaro | type time on the console |
| 16:06.23 | drmessano | ake: Warning: File `Makefile' has modification time 2.4e+08 s in the future |
| 16:06.44 | SteveTotaro | if it off, sync it with an ntp server |
| 16:07.09 | drmessano | 1980 was a greta year... time to move on |
| 16:07.12 | drmessano | great* |
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| 16:07.40 | SteveTotaro | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:07.59 | drmessano | No, its a joke |
| 16:08.02 | drmessano | ~humor |
| 16:08.03 | jbot | i heard humor is Q: Why are the streets of Paris lined with trees? A: Because Germans like to march in the shade. |
| 16:08.26 | SteveTotaro | i figured but you are a brainiac so it wouldn't surprise me if it were either |
| 16:08.34 | drmessano | lol |
| 16:08.55 | drmessano | I'm sure the system time is default due to a dead CMOS battery or some crap |
| 16:09.13 | drmessano | You run into that with a lot of first time installers |
| 16:09.23 | SteveTotaro | good starter system |
| 16:10.07 | SteveTotaro | pulling down ntp at boot should fix that without touching the battery though |
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| 16:10.31 | Dovid | haha |
| 16:10.36 | Dovid | it was stuck on 2000 |
| 16:11.11 | drmessano | Here's your sign |
| 16:11.14 | drmessano | ;) |
| 16:11.16 | SteveTotaro | question is why does zaptel care what time it is? |
| 16:11.46 | drmessano | Probably doesn't, but it fixed his makefile error |
| 16:12.11 | SteveTotaro | so why does make care? |
| 16:13.14 | Dovid | haha |
| 16:13.16 | drmessano | Because make didn't have enough things to bitch about, so they added forward time? |
| 16:13.29 | SteveTotaro | i wonder how my C=64 would handle that, seriously doubt it has four digit year |
| 16:13.47 | drmessano | I'm surprised the C64 had YEAR |
| 16:13.59 | SteveTotaro | 84 |
| 16:14.24 | SteveTotaro | half of 42 and we all know what that is |
| 16:14.30 | SteveTotaro | coincidence or not? |
| 16:15.11 | SteveTotaro | i wish my neighbors had comcast! |
| 16:15.21 | SteveTotaro | this dsl is sooooo slow |
| 16:15.33 | SteveTotaro | no fios in the hood yet |
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| 16:16.08 | SteveTotaro | i guess downloading 5 gigs isn't a small demand |
| 16:16.31 | *** join/#asterisk Yourname`` (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/yourname/x-837320) |
| 16:17.07 | SteveTotaro | just wait till i am hosting the 2+TB rainbow tables for cracking A5 |
| 16:18.20 | drmessano | I want to start a grid computing project to discover which came first, the chicken or the egg |
| 16:18.33 | Yourname`` | Hi. So, there's GotoIfTime which requires you to send calls to a context.. is there something that can execute an application on time? Like iftime(10:30-23:59|mon-sat|||?Dial(SIP/2222@agents,,tT,)) |
| 16:19.00 | Yourname`` | supports drmessano's cause. |
| 16:19.36 | SteveTotaro | you can send it to a context that does that |
| 16:19.52 | drmessano | I could potentially tie up billions of computing minutes on that |
| 16:20.35 | drmessano | Better yet |
| 16:20.49 | drmessano | Which is better ULAW and ALAW |
| 16:20.57 | drmessano | s/and/or/ |
| 16:23.12 | jameswf-home | drmessano: depends what country your in |
| 16:23.13 | SteveTotaro | http://document.write(window.location.host)www.worldcommunitygrid.org/team/viewTeamInfo.do?teamId=GCHH2PTJQ1 |
| 16:23.17 | jameswf-home | ~ulaw |
| 16:23.18 | jbot | from memory, ulaw is pronounce "mu"-law and consumes 64 Kb/s in each direction. It is considered a loss-less CODEC with a sampling rate of 8,000 hz and is 8 bit. It delivers quality equivalent to that of a POTS line. |
| 16:23.27 | jameswf-home | ~alaw |
| 16:23.32 | SteveTotaro | ulaw in the us |
| 16:23.44 | jameswf-home | alaw is eu |
| 16:23.52 | SteveTotaro | and alaw in other countries |
| 16:23.55 | drmessano | How is one or the other better depending on location? |
| 16:24.13 | SteveTotaro | ulaw is in africa, is that part of the EU? |
| 16:24.15 | drmessano | So G729 sounds better in chile? |
| 16:24.28 | jameswf-home | they are practicly the same but not interchangible they will work in place of eachother but you will get odd audio artifacts |
| 16:24.50 | SteveTotaro | they are the same bandwidth |
| 16:24.57 | SteveTotaro | just different implementations |
| 16:25.05 | drmessano | So if I am in the UK and call ulaw to ulaw, SIP<>SIP, I will get artifacts? |
| 16:25.10 | SteveTotaro | you need to transcode if you mix and match |
| 16:25.13 | drmessano | Come on, the first is tuesday |
| 16:25.18 | jameswf-home | like i said practicaly the same just a bit or two off |
| 16:25.49 | SteveTotaro | ulaw to ulaw will show no artifacts |
| 16:26.02 | drmessano | wow |
| 16:26.05 | jameswf-home | drmessano: you need to transcode... I am not sure ulaw to alaw transcoding would cause mutch if any overhead |
| 16:26.20 | drmessano | Just... wow |
| 16:26.26 | jameswf-home | ~wow |
| 16:26.27 | jbot | I have no life | Lets go raid! |
| 16:26.43 | SteveTotaro | do "show translations" on the asterisk cli |
| 16:27.05 | SteveTotaro | you will see overhead is next to nothing |
| 16:27.26 | SteveTotaro | speex still rocks though |
| 16:27.48 | SteveTotaro | 8k speex over vsat |
| 16:27.50 | drmessano | The joke, which is now UNFUNNY, having to explain it, is which is better, ulaw or alaw.. with the understanding that you're testing just the codec, not it's location or transcoding.. for the sake of argument, this could be in a lab with two asterisk boxes SIP<>SIP on a switch using alaw<>alaw, then ulaw<>ulaw.. |
| 16:28.44 | drmessano | ~joke |
| 16:28.44 | jbot | A bhuddist monk goes to a hot dog vendor and says "Make me one with everything!" |
| 16:28.48 | drmessano | ~humor |
| 16:28.49 | jbot | somebody said humor was Q: Why are the streets of Paris lined with trees? A: Because Germans like to march in the shade. |
| 16:28.54 | outtolunc | do it again, do it again <G> |
| 16:29.04 | SteveTotaro | why would one test such a basic codec? |
| 16:29.05 | SteveTotaro | ~badjoke |
| 16:29.37 | Yourname`` | SteveTotaro: I know you can send it to a context, but what if I don't want to send it to a context and just do a dial? |
| 16:29.51 | outtolunc | use execif then |
| 16:30.01 | SteveTotaro | then use trial and error, that is what i do |
| 16:30.15 | jameswf-home | ~badjoke is <reply> how do you fix a womans watch? .....no we cant answer |
| 16:30.16 | jbot | jameswf-home: okay |
| 16:30.18 | SteveTotaro | no reason i can think of why you couldn't make it work |
| 16:30.20 | drmessano | Well, I can't say I haven't heard someone ask which one is better more than 1000 times.. the joke was "Hey, lets spend some money and compare them"... but now I am jst annoyed explaining it further |
| 16:30.25 | SteveTotaro | but why not just send it to a context |
| 16:30.50 | SteveTotaro | ~badjoke |
| 16:30.50 | jbot | how do you fix a womans watch? .....no we cant answer |
| 16:31.01 | Yourname`` | SteveTotaro: I know I can send it to a context, but I like to have 3-4 lines in a context.. and this one, I don't need 3-4 lines. Just one dial statement. |
| 16:31.23 | jameswf-home | ~badjoke no is <reply> how do you fix a womans watch? .....google for answer |
| 16:31.24 | jbot | okay, jameswf-home |
| 16:31.26 | outtolunc | exten => 7,n,EXECIF(IF($[${CALLFILENAME}])?Monitor(gsm,${CALLFILENAME},m) |
| 16:31.54 | SteveTotaro | like i said, trial and error |
| 16:31.54 | SteveTotaro | and work on your perfectionism issues |
| 16:31.54 | SteveTotaro | ;) |
| 16:32.19 | Yourname`` | lol |
| 16:32.25 | Yourname`` | I guess I'll have to.. :( |
| 16:32.32 | SteveTotaro | buy a new one? |
| 16:32.38 | Yourname`` | outtolunc: Sounds neat. But what if I use "IfTime" |
| 16:33.05 | outtolunc | then find a gun and use it |
| 16:33.20 | outtolunc | if is if is if |
| 16:33.51 | SteveTotaro | http://document.write(window.location.host)www.worldcommunitygrid.org/team/viewTeamInfo.do?teamId=GCHH2PTJQ1 |
| 16:34.08 | SteveTotaro | www.worldcommunitygrid.org/team/viewTeamInfo.do?teamId=GCHH2PTJQ1 |
| 16:35.43 | jameswf-home | I wonder if I should add a random link dealie to my site.... |
| 16:36.26 | jameswf-home | pimp out other peoples stufizzle |
| 16:36.36 | jameswf-home | oh wait cant say pimp oops |
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| 16:37.39 | SteveTotaro | It doesnt matter. There is a clock on the oven. |
| 16:40.21 | SteveTotaro | ~humor |
| 16:40.22 | jbot | extra, extra, read all about it, humor is Q: Why are the streets of Paris lined with trees? A: Because Germans like to march in the shade. |
| 16:44.59 | jameswf-home | <aplauds> SteveTotaro's google powers |
| 16:47.11 | TJNII | I always liked "Why should a woman wear white?" |
| 16:47.11 | jameswf-home | next... why do women where white wedding dresses.... |
| 16:47.21 | TJNII | Major appliances should match |
| 16:47.22 | jameswf-home | jinx |
| 16:48.12 | drmessano | Why are womens feet so small? |
| 16:48.20 | drmessano | So they can get closer to the kitchen sink |
| 16:48.41 | plik | Why did the woman cross the road? |
| 16:48.48 | jameswf-home | what do you do if your wife keeps comming in to the living room and bugging |
| 16:48.58 | jameswf-home | shorten her chain |
| 16:49.03 | plik | Who cares - what's she doing out of the kitchen?! |
| 16:49.05 | tzafrir | wonders if this channel is a men-only club |
| 16:49.06 | Yourname`` | What's the best way for me to implement queues which use AgentLogin() and I log them in dynamically using AQM? |
| 16:49.07 | drmessano | ROFL |
| 16:49.26 | drmessano | Yourname``: I havent heard that one before |
| 16:49.34 | jameswf-home | no there is 1 woah Man here |
| 16:49.57 | plik | ~joke |
| 16:49.58 | jbot | A bhuddist monk goes to a hot dog vendor and says "Make me one with everything!" |
| 16:49.58 | Yourname`` | I really like AQM/RQM, because everything else requires you to define member => in queues.conf and in some cases, agents.conf |
| 16:50.01 | tzafrir | that you are aware of |
| 16:50.05 | plik | ~joke2 |
| 16:50.06 | jbot | from memory, joke2 is the hot dog vendor takes the Monks $20 bill... The Monk says "What about my change?" The vendor replies "Change comes from within." |
| 16:50.09 | drmessano | If a man says something, and a woman isn't around to hear it, is he still wrong? |
| 16:50.50 | Yourname`` | drmessano: Now you have :) |
| 16:50.54 | jameswf-home | you guys are pigs |
| 16:50.56 | jameswf-home | :)) |
| 16:51.03 | drmessano | Knock Knock |
| 16:51.09 | TJNII | Whose there |
| 16:51.11 | tzafrir | then eventually you'll be able to fly |
| 16:51.12 | drmessano | Asterisk |
| 16:51.19 | TJNII | Asterisk who |
| 16:51.24 | drmessano | HA, one way audio.. check your NAT settings |
| 16:51.30 | Yourname`` | LOL |
| 16:51.30 | jameswf-home | lmao |
| 16:51.32 | Yourname`` | LOLOL |
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| 16:51.44 | Yourname`` | Nice one there, drmessano. |
| 16:51.50 | jameswf-home | ~roflcopter |
| 16:51.56 | jameswf-home | ~roflmao |
| 16:51.57 | jbot | it has been said that roflmao is rolling on the floor laughing my arse off, or painful, or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEWgs6YQR9A |
| 16:53.14 | drmessano | OUCH |
| 16:53.17 | drmessano | He got the K |
| 16:55.39 | jameswf-home | drmessano: wanna see my ninja webmaster skills http://jameswf.info |
| 16:55.48 | Yourname`` | So... no one? |
| 16:55.52 | CCFL_Man2 | T100P supports 5V pci slots? |
| 16:56.05 | jameswf-home | ~t100p |
| 16:56.12 | jameswf-home | doh! |
| 16:57.00 | drmessano | Cool |
| 16:57.18 | drmessano | I need to redo my website.. but I gotta blow up my web server first |
| 16:57.24 | drmessano | IIS > APache |
| 16:57.59 | jameswf-home | I had a customer once ask me to do php in iis that was the worst hour of my life |
| 16:58.21 | drmessano | Yes, thats exactly why I am doing it |
| 16:58.31 | drmessano | I am SOOOO sick of how bad PHP sucks on IIS |
| 16:59.21 | erwinpogz | drmessano i can relate on your problem |
| 16:59.57 | drmessano | The performance is lowsy, at best.. and the FastCGI add-on for IIS kills Wordpress and a few other 2.0 apps |
| 17:00.00 | jameswf-home | it was a college I was like dude you are technical people I can get apache up in 5 minutes.... corprate says blah blah microsoft blah blah blah |
| 17:00.11 | jameswf-home | I should have charged extra |
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| 17:00.53 | CCFL_Man2 | anyone use the old T100P? |
| 17:01.24 | jameswf-home | 4 page web app 3 hours of coding 1 hour adjusting to iis $700 so I shouldn't bitch mutch |
| 17:02.37 | jameswf-home | If i could do that 3 times a week I wouldnt need a real job |
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| 17:03.44 | drmessano | lol |
| 17:04.43 | drmessano | IIS isn't as bad as it used to be.. but it's still missing pieces to make it work with any open source apps.. not that this should be a surprise |
| 17:04.46 | drmessano | But anyway |
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| 17:12.53 | ManxPower | I would not complain about shoveling pig shit if I got paid $700 for 3 hours. |
| 17:13.32 | riddlebox | man I need to write a script to reboot my phones for me |
| 17:16.06 | drmessano | riddlebox: I have one, if you want it |
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| 17:16.23 | drmessano | 10 Goto(Power Panel) |
| 17:16.27 | drmessano | 20 Click |
| 17:16.36 | drmessano | Sorry.. |
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| 17:18.54 | outtolunc | was paid $14/hr to shovel pig shit as a kid (that was big money then) |
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| 17:24.29 | jameswf-home | ~spiderpig |
| 17:24.30 | jbot | [spiderpig] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9alejPWHboc |
| 17:25.30 | drmessano | Is Zap 2 connected? |
| 17:25.46 | machpo | yes, i can call into it just fine |
| 17:26.13 | machpo | it's a standard pstn line from verizon plugged into zap/2 |
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| 17:51.25 | ThatKidKel | I keep getting the following error: "Got error on T.38 re-invite. Bad configuration. Peer needs to have T.38 disabled." |
| 17:51.37 | ThatKidKel | Any suggestions on T.38. My carrier has it, and my endpoint supports it |
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| 18:00.52 | InHisName | I am trying to call other sip companies via ekiga.net format: *363500 My dial plan needs to be fixed. What to add to it ? |
| 18:02.37 | Yourname`` | So wait, there's Asterisk GUI and then there's AsteriskNOW? |
| 18:03.02 | ManxPower | ThatKidKel: As I understand it, the message means that the remote end claimed to support T.38, but threw back an error to Asterisk when Asterisk tried to initiate a T.38 call. |
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| 18:03.51 | ManxPower | InHisName: exten => *363500,1,Whatever(.. |
| 18:07.48 | InHisName | ManxPower, I have that but, no sounds, NO CLI output, no nuttin' when I dial *363500. If I leave out the * or sub a number then it dials just pretty. (its a bad no so I get congestion) |
| 18:08.30 | InHisName | substitute a number for the *. |
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| 18:25.03 | ManxPower | InHisName: Your SIP phone is where you configure this as well |
| 18:28.14 | SteveTotaro | get a 3com if you just want to plug phones in and start making calls (MAC or IP) |
| 18:29.23 | SteveTotaro | any customer that does not need anything fancy and needs less than four FXO ports and does not expect to expand soon, I sell them the 3com V3000 |
| 18:29.42 | SteveTotaro | about the same price point but more stable |
| 18:29.58 | SteveTotaro | no echo issues because of hardware DSPs |
| 18:30.45 | coppice | don't you just love silly terms like hardware DSP :-) |
| 18:31.04 | SteveTotaro | asterisk is not always the answer |
| 18:31.24 | SteveTotaro | hardware dsp = $5k on a T card |
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| 18:31.52 | SteveTotaro | no hardware DSP = $1,000 on T1 card |
| 18:32.36 | SteveTotaro | the $5k figure was for a single port |
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| 18:33.31 | SteveTotaro | so when will we see the 3com/Asterisk product in the wild |
| 18:33.34 | SteveTotaro | ? |
| 18:34.14 | SteveTotaro | i have a customer that wants me to install at least two and probably five fonality pbxtra systems, i loathe |
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| 18:34.58 | SteveTotaro | he checked out switchvox but was not impressed, not sure why except the fonality people brainwashed him |
| 18:36.05 | coppice | is 3COM going to be viable now it can't be sold to someone with the cash to save it? |
| 18:36.43 | SteveTotaro | 3com will be saved |
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| 18:36.51 | SteveTotaro | restructure |
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| 18:37.16 | SteveTotaro | cisco is next to 3com as far as internet goes |
| 18:37.26 | SteveTotaro | well a bit behind |
| 18:37.41 | SteveTotaro | but not far historically as far as tech |
| 18:37.48 | coppice | restructure, then restructure, then restructure, then restructure, then give away the remanents with cornflakes |
| 18:38.16 | SteveTotaro | nah, they can sell of divisions |
| 18:38.42 | SteveTotaro | lay people off |
| 18:38.47 | coppice | I expect 3COM will sell off the useful bits it bought, and wither away by burning the cash it gets |
| 18:38.51 | drmessano | I put in a bid to buy US Robotics for $7.50 |
| 18:39.19 | SteveTotaro | dallas semiconductors is where it is at |
| 18:39.33 | coppice | drmessano: careful. they might accept, and you'll find yourself with millions in debts :-) |
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| 18:40.01 | drmessano | lol |
| 18:40.02 | drmessano | Well |
| 18:41.01 | drmessano | they wanted $75 million for it.. But I bought a couple million USR Robotics modems from wal mart, with $75 discount coupons on them, then sent them ALL in for a warranty claim at the same time, thus owning them by hostile takeover |
| 18:41.04 | coppice | how did dallas semi get into this? |
| 18:41.06 | SteveTotaro | off topic but i just scored a hell of a deal |
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| 18:41.56 | SteveTotaro | go here and register http://www.dealking.com/deals/login.php |
| 18:42.30 | SteveTotaro | after registering and selecting paypal as your payment method, click the link on the right hand side of the main page |
| 18:42.48 | SteveTotaro | Hot Offers 1.Samsung A117 $19.99 from At&T - No contract |
| 18:45.05 | drmessano | Free shipping? |
| 18:45.23 | coppice | better than that. a free ship |
| 18:45.32 | drmessano | lol |
| 18:45.44 | drmessano | It's $29.99 @ Best Buy |
| 18:45.57 | drmessano | So.. not sure how much of a steal |
| 18:46.37 | SteveTotaro | 29.99 for what? |
| 18:47.13 | SteveTotaro | once at att click all phones on the left |
| 18:47.27 | coppice | US Robotics, of course |
| 18:47.37 | SteveTotaro | then select gophone |
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| 18:48.41 | SteveTotaro | i got the nokia 6030 with ten minutes of airtime |
| 18:48.59 | SteveTotaro | once you activate and use the time, you can easily unlock the phone |
| 18:49.00 | drmessano | The Samsung A117.. I can get it for $29 at best buy |
| 18:49.27 | SteveTotaro | well mine is free and i don't even have to spend money on gas |
| 18:49.30 | SteveTotaro | two day express |
| 18:49.52 | drmessano | You said $20 |
| 18:49.56 | SteveTotaro | and i can use it on any carrier |
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| 18:50.32 | SteveTotaro | yes but if you followed the directions you would see that dealking gives you $20 into your paypal (much faster) or mails you a check |
| 18:50.49 | SteveTotaro | so i really make a penny and get a free phone that can be used with any provider |
| 18:51.18 | SteveTotaro | it can be done twice, so I am going to find one that works well with kannel |
| 18:51.34 | SteveTotaro | or chan_mobile |
| 18:51.35 | drmessano | Ok, but for $20, I don't have to know who the hell dealking is, or register my soul to another site |
| 18:52.08 | SteveTotaro | your soul is not your name and address |
| 18:52.17 | coppice | are they related to the networking people, wanking? |
| 18:52.24 | SteveTotaro | maybe you need to attend church or speak to clergy |
| 18:52.56 | SteveTotaro | similar to www.letstalk.com, they may have the same deal |
| 18:53.08 | SteveTotaro | i have done it many many times |
| 18:53.26 | SteveTotaro | they pay me $50 for the phone, free shipping, free activation |
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| 18:54.02 | SteveTotaro | then i add a family plan and add one phone at a time, same deal, $50, free overnight, free activation |
| 18:55.27 | SteveTotaro | ok, get the nokia 2610 for $9.99 |
| 18:55.52 | drmessano | Who pays for a cell phone anymore anyway |
| 18:56.06 | SteveTotaro | i just picked the nokia 6030 because it has good reviews and easy to unlock |
| 18:56.28 | SteveTotaro | people that don't sell their soul for multi year contracts |
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| 18:57.02 | SteveTotaro | you could buy these phones and flip on ebay for a $50 profit |
| 18:57.30 | drmessano | Eh.. If you want to add 2 or 3 phones to a family plan, you can talk them into free phones.. Afterall, the phones aren't where they make money |
| 18:57.41 | SteveTotaro | so apparently alot of people buy phones |
| 18:58.09 | SteveTotaro | eh, i paid nothing for my family plan phones, they paid me $50 |
| 18:58.10 | drmessano | I don't think I ever have |
| 18:58.31 | SteveTotaro | $50x4=$200 |
| 18:58.55 | SteveTotaro | actually $50x5=$250 |
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| 19:00.37 | SteveTotaro | i can flip the new razr v3 for $80 a pop on ebay and buy free phones |
| 19:01.29 | SteveTotaro | $80x5=$400 not too shabby |
| 19:02.16 | ManxPower | Flip This Phone: Next on Fox! |
| 19:03.20 | SteveTotaro | nah, i don't think i am violating any terms or conditions (although I have not looked) |
| 19:03.30 | SteveTotaro | it is my phone, i can unlock it if i want |
| 19:03.37 | SteveTotaro | and i can sell it if i want |
| 19:03.54 | ManxPower | Not in the USA at least |
| 19:04.29 | SteveTotaro | show me a statute or something in the terms and conditions |
| 19:05.42 | ManxPower | Assuming you are not under contract, the biggest issue is getting other carriers to accept the phone. that varies from company to company and phone to phone |
| 19:05.47 | SteveTotaro | infact by law, the cell phone companies must give you the unlock code or unlock your phone remotely after a certain period of time |
| 19:06.08 | SteveTotaro | an unlocked phone will take any sim |
| 19:06.18 | SteveTotaro | from any company, never had an issue |
| 19:06.51 | SteveTotaro | in the US, various countries in Africa, Europe |
| 19:07.08 | file | an unlocked GSM phone. |
| 19:07.14 | SteveTotaro | yes |
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| 19:07.24 | SteveTotaro | i always unlock my phones |
| 19:07.31 | coppice | we never had locked phones, until Vodaphone came to town :-\ |
| 19:12.43 | riddlebox | wohoo got my blf's working in asterisk-gui |
| 19:12.53 | SteveTotaro | http://www.nokiaphoneblog.com/2006/04/unlocking_the_nokia_6030_phone.html |
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| 19:25.04 | ManxPower | GSM phones are not a dominant phone tech in the USA. |
| 19:25.25 | ManxPower | Two major carriers use them |
| 19:26.09 | coppice | I thought GSM was now over 50% of US cellphones |
| 19:26.20 | ManxPower | coppice: if so, it was fairly recently. |
| 19:26.43 | coppice | I seem to remember seeing something about that a few months ago |
| 19:26.44 | ManxPower | I did say "dominant", not "majority". |
| 19:27.29 | coppice | in this dog eat dog world someone has to be dominant, and nothing beats 50%+ :-) |
| 19:30.28 | SteveTotaro | gsm is dominant |
| 19:32.06 | ManxPower | At 2Q 2005, GSM held 38% of the Americas market, while twelve months later, that market share has grown to 51%. |
| 19:32.12 | ManxPower | Well, I have eben out of touch. |
| 19:32.21 | ManxPower | http://www.cellular-news.com/story/19097.php |
| 19:33.26 | coppice | interesting how that growth comes several years after the introduction of super duper 3G :-) |
| 19:33.44 | ManxPower | That, however, appears to include north, central, and south america |
| 19:33.48 | SteveTotaro | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phone |
| 19:35.58 | coppice | "In Hong Kong the penetration rate reached 139.8% of the population in July 2007." isn't that kinda wacky :-) |
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| 19:37.45 | ManxPower | coppice: people with work and personal phones? |
| 19:39.16 | coppice | well, take away the babies, and old folk who will never use a phone, and 139% probably means a good deal more in real terms. not too many people have a business phone, and most here use their personal phone for business |
| 19:40.14 | ManxPower | Odd |
| 19:41.30 | coppice | the number probably comes from cooking the books about when a subscriber has churned. I know first hand there was some funky subscriber abse accounting in the UK in 1991, when the economy dived and the true cellphone subscriber base fell sharply |
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| 20:10.45 | drmessano | I think Steve is going to find out his "free" phones are worth about that on the open market |
| 20:10.53 | drmessano | Who the hell pays for a low end cell anymore? |
| 20:11.01 | drmessano | Smart phone, flavor of the month, maybe |
| 20:11.31 | drmessano | But if you can't get your provider to GIVE you a sub $99 phone so they can sell you service, you suck |
| 20:11.37 | coppice | I thought it was mostly monestaries and departments of correction that paid for cells |
| 20:11.43 | drmessano | lol |
| 20:11.46 | drmessano | "mobiles" |
| 20:12.13 | coppice | who needs mobile cells? jet set monks? |
| 20:12.25 | drmessano | Perhaps |
| 20:12.30 | jql | you mean... you want to move them? heh |
| 20:12.54 | riddlebox | well crap i had the whole day setup for two projects, and I finished both already....now what |
| 20:13.42 | coppice | a day of praising the Lord for making the work go so smoothly? |
| 20:13.59 | riddlebox | or sleep |
| 20:14.37 | drmessano | I just dont know who gets on eBay and says "Dang, I can get a free mobile phone for $30 even though my provider will give it to me for free.. cool, i'll take two" |
| 20:14.50 | drmessano | But anyway |
| 20:15.18 | coppice | well, E-Bay is a truly global garage sale |
| 20:16.17 | drmessano | The only cool app I see for those free phones is maybe that teamed with a $5 bluetooth dongle with chan_mobile for access to 911 |
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| 20:18.10 | coppice | do $19.99 phones have bluetooth? |
| 20:18.32 | drmessano | *most* cheap phones even have bluetooth now.. Surely not all, but most |
| 20:19.18 | coppice | most of the cheap phones I see don't. your cheap threshold is too high :-) |
| 20:19.38 | drmessano | They have to.. They give you a cheap phone, sell you high priced service, then sell you a nice bluetooth earpiece for three times the value of the phone, so you can look cool being screwed :) |
| 20:20.01 | drmessano | I have an el cheapo samsung that has BT |
| 20:20.46 | drmessano | I'd say that if it "sells" for $99 or higher, it has bluetooth.. and that about the borderline for getting the phone for free |
| 20:21.00 | drmessano | So effectively, you can get a free phone with BT without much trouble at all |
| 20:21.05 | coppice | if you lived in a place where people buy phones and subscribe to service separately you'd find Nokia, Samsung and all the others have many phones without bluetooth |
| 20:21.41 | drmessano | That wouldnt surprise me.. Of course, the providers here in the states are sharks :) |
| 20:21.55 | drmessano | Remember, we PAY for SMS |
| 20:22.19 | coppice | most people do. that's why it makes so much money for the telcos |
| 20:22.29 | drmessano | I probably bought three phones worth of $10 a month block of 250 SMS messages |
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| 20:46.09 | Yourname`` | New spectrum owners are coming. Apparently no more paying for SMS, Internet is going to cheap, etc. Too bad Google is not part of it. :( |
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| 20:47.01 | drmessano | See, I didnt get that part |
| 20:47.16 | drmessano | Google made it sound like they were buying this HUGE chunk of it |
| 20:47.24 | drmessano | and it was a sure thing |
| 20:47.38 | drmessano | Now they make it sound like they knew all along they wouldnt win it |
| 20:48.33 | Yourname`` | Yeah, they were probably really confident that FCC is going to be frothing at it's mouth that Google wants a share of the spectrum. Obviously that wasn't the case. |
| 20:49.54 | drmessano | Somehow it was a victory for the consumer.. but no one has really spelled out HOW |
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| 20:51.55 | machpo | only thing google did was put in a minimum bid for a certain part of the spectrum to trigger fcc rules that the newly-opened spectrum will be open to all devices. we'll see. |
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| 21:17.40 | Yourname`` | Well, FCC made up their mind. They just have to make a presentation out of it and then tell the masses. |
| 21:18.31 | boblutz | Oh? |
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| 21:25.55 | Yourname`` | Yeah, auction ended on the 20th, I think. |
| 21:26.06 | drmessano | Yep |
| 21:26.22 | drmessano | Google tricked us |
| 21:26.48 | drmessano | We all had a chance to bid.. and Google said "nah, it's ok.. got your back" |
| 21:26.56 | drmessano | So, we were all like "Kk" |
| 21:27.03 | drmessano | and then they were all like "SIKE!" |
| 21:27.15 | drmessano | and we were all like "Oh Snap" |
| 21:27.57 | drmessano | But hey |
| 21:28.09 | russellb | hey! |
| 21:28.28 | drmessano | At least Google made their homepage black for a day, which actually consumers more energy than white on a CRT |
| 21:28.36 | drmessano | consumes* |
| 21:29.34 | drmessano | russellb.. I have this great idea |
| 21:29.46 | russellb | lies |
| 21:31.06 | drmessano | I think someone should develop an open source telephony toolkit, enabling anyone to create their own PBX and make free calls over an ordinary internet connection |
| 21:31.25 | russellb | that's quite a vision |
| 21:31.29 | russellb | but it will never work |
| 21:31.38 | russellb | it's too hard. |
| 21:31.51 | drmessano | It could.. if we get Google to get behind it.. much like they did this 700MHZ auction |
| 21:31.56 | drmessano | Google.. can make it happen |
| 21:32.33 | drmessano | Listen, I know what you're thinking |
| 21:32.36 | russellb | google reported one of the security issues last year. |
| 21:32.42 | drmessano | Developing on windows is hard.. |
| 21:32.58 | drmessano | But I heard of this awesome OS.. called.. Lenux or something |
| 21:33.06 | drmessano | It's free |
| 21:33.15 | drmessano | and EASY to develop on |
| 21:33.28 | drmessano | No GUI's.. it's all text.. like, notepad |
| 21:34.25 | drmessano | I think Google should come out with it's own linux distro and give it some massive orwellian name like "OS" |
| 21:34.49 | drmessano | Just cut right to the chase |
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| 21:39.23 | syntxerr | should a voip call have the same quality as a regular phone call? |
| 21:40.09 | Guggemand | yes and no |
| 21:40.23 | syntxerr | what codec should I be using for highest qual? |
| 21:40.42 | Guggemand | g711 for best quality ... but requires more bandwith |
| 21:40.53 | syntxerr | yea, that will be 64k per chan right? |
| 21:41.02 | Guggemand | plus headers |
| 21:41.07 | syntxerr | right |
| 21:41.18 | syntxerr | and... is this all peer to peer? |
| 21:41.26 | syntxerr | or does all traffic go thru the asterisk box? |
| 21:41.40 | Guggemand | you can do both |
| 21:41.52 | syntxerr | (my server isnt located in the same building as my phones)... |
| 21:42.00 | keith4_ | doesn't matter |
| 21:42.26 | syntxerr | why wont it matter... tehy may not have the same bandiwdth allocations |
| 21:42.29 | syntxerr | well they dont |
| 21:43.03 | keith4_ | depending on the codec, SIP calls don't use much bandwidth at all |
| 21:43.21 | drmessano | O RLY? |
| 21:43.41 | syntxerr | 13kbps to 64kbps |
| 21:44.00 | drmessano | I can fit 5 GSM calls into a G711 call |
| 21:44.32 | syntxerr | 4 no? |
| 21:44.32 | russellb | but they sound like crap :) |
| 21:44.42 | drmessano | lol |
| 21:44.44 | syntxerr | hmm asterisk gui doesnt have a g711 option :S |
| 21:44.50 | russellb | ulaw |
| 21:44.57 | syntxerr | ohh |
| 21:44.58 | syntxerr | right |
| 21:45.04 | syntxerr | should have known that from class :P |
| 21:45.39 | drmessano | There so needs to be a Pay-Per-View "ULAW vs ALAW: Codecmania 2008" |
| 21:46.05 | russellb | alaw is lame, because it lacks the use of a greek letter. |
| 21:46.20 | russellb | mu, ftw |
| 21:46.34 | syntxerr | make it a fish and call it alpha |
| 21:46.36 | drmessano | The match hasn't even started yet, and you're talking smack, mr-developer-type-guy? |
| 21:46.47 | drmessano | SEE YOU IN THE RING |
| 21:46.50 | russellb | wibbles |
| 21:47.07 | syntxerr | haha ring |
| 21:47.17 | syntxerr | pun intended? |
| 21:47.31 | drmessano | 90% of the way through typing it, yes |
| 21:47.36 | syntxerr | lol |
| 21:48.24 | Nivex | dangit why is my compose key not working? |
| 21:48.34 | drmessano | ULAW is goin down.. unless G729 comes in with a chair... or GSM brings in a sledgehammer |
| 21:49.26 | syntxerr | SS7 will be the fight official |
| 21:49.40 | syntxerr | making sure everything goes as plannned |
| 21:49.44 | drmessano | I keep picturing speex in a bikini |
| 21:49.47 | syntxerr | stupid pstn |
| 21:50.33 | Nivex | µ-law |
| 21:51.27 | syntxerr | someone used charactermap |
| 21:51.40 | Nivex | aye |
| 21:51.45 | drmessano | Isn't Mu-law a breakfast cereal.. seems like it has corn kernels, apricot pits, and granola in it.. oh, and it's $4.50 for a 8 ounce box |
| 21:52.01 | Nivex | muselix? |
| 21:52.20 | syntxerr | heh cool... callto:// works in irc |
| 21:52.21 | drmessano | You forgot an umlaut |
| 21:52.28 | Nivex | müselix |
| 21:52.41 | Nivex | ^A^V in screen for the win |
| 21:52.52 | drmessano | Yeah, motley crüe would be proud |
| 21:52.59 | *** join/#asterisk Arkenazy (n=IRCQNet@rrcs-76-79-244-108.west.biz.rr.com) |
| 21:53.03 | Arkenazy | hello everyone! |
| 21:53.06 | Nivex | still don't know why my compose key is b0rk3n |
| 21:53.39 | syntxerr | whtas a compose key? |
| 21:53.39 | drmessano | Maybe you didnt eat enough crunchy granola stems and rocks cereal |
| 21:54.25 | *** join/#asterisk propellerhead (n=yogurt2u@host175.190-138-100.telecom.net.ar) |
| 21:54.29 | drmessano | Someone needs to rock out with Asterisk Cereal |
| 21:55.17 | drmessano | It would probably resemble doritos with marshmallows and include a $10 coupon for Match.com, but so what... |
| 21:59.05 | keith4_ | mmm, marshmallows |
| 21:59.59 | drmessano | Coca cola flavored |
| 22:01.27 | propellerhead | Hello people |
| 22:02.05 | propellerhead | I'm try to run a sterisk 1.4.18 in the 2.6.22 debian box |
| 22:02.54 | keith4_ | ok |
| 22:02.59 | keith4_ | congrats |
| 22:03.00 | keith4_ | me too! |
| 22:03.14 | propellerhead | but tthe asterisk can see the zap channel, I have one tdm400, with one FXO port |
| 22:03.42 | propellerhead | [Mar 30 18:53:06] ERROR[3367] chan_zap.c: Unable to get parameters |
| 22:03.52 | keith4_ | check dmesg |
| 22:03.59 | keith4_ | run ztcfg -vv |
| 22:04.33 | propellerhead | The output of "ztcfg -vvv" is ok and the module is loading ok too |
| 22:05.08 | propellerhead | keith4 is a lenny debian |
| 22:05.22 | keith4_ | are you using packaged zaptel modules, or did you build them using module-assistant? |
| 22:06.12 | propellerhead | I made the kernel and modules with make-kpkg |
| 22:06.35 | keith4_ | what does "dpkg -l | grep zaptel-modules" show? |
| 22:06.50 | keith4_ | and what does "uname -a" show? |
| 22:08.12 | propellerhead | keith4 is the same, I build the linux-image and zapte-module |
| 22:09.31 | propellerhead | ii linux-image-2.6.22-686 feb2008 Linux kernel binary image for version 2.6.22 |
| 22:09.45 | propellerhead | ii zaptel-modules-2.6.22-686 1:1.4.7.1~dfsg-1+feb2008 zaptel modules for Linux (kernel 2.6.22-686 |
| 22:10.25 | propellerhead | asterisk:~# uname -a |
| 22:10.25 | propellerhead | Linux asterisk 2.6.22-686 #1 SMP Wed Feb 13 14:00:32 ARST 2008 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 22:10.25 | propellerhead | asterisk:~# |
| 22:11.00 | *** join/#asterisk kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) |
| 22:11.18 | keith4_ | when does the error occur? |
| 22:11.35 | propellerhead | wait a moment |
| 22:11.50 | *** join/#asterisk Jumpie (n=sgtryan@pool-96-231-155-171.washdc.fios.verizon.net) |
| 22:11.53 | Jumpie | hey all |
| 22:11.58 | Jumpie | WOW!! large channel, yay |
| 22:12.01 | propellerhead | The versio os de modules-source is 1.4.7 |
| 22:12.08 | Jumpie | about to take on asterisknow |
| 22:12.15 | Jumpie | total noob, learning to get familiar with it, syntax, configs, etc |
| 22:12.19 | drmessano | Jumpie: Wrong channel |
| 22:12.25 | drmessano | Try #asterisknow |
| 22:12.26 | propellerhead | an de zaptel is 1.4.8 |
| 22:12.38 | Jumpie | how is this the wrong channel? |
| 22:12.44 | Jumpie | oh im just looking to hang, not bug you all with questions |
| 22:13.16 | russellb | hanging is welcome |
| 22:13.17 | keith4_ | propellerhead, try module-assistant, it'll simply building zaptel for you |
| 22:13.29 | drmessano | I love a good hangin |
| 22:13.32 | propellerhead | keith4 I made the kernel and modules on February |
| 22:13.32 | drmessano | Get my rope |
| 22:13.51 | propellerhead | With different module-source |
| 22:14.10 | outtolunc | would bring the *shine but i stopped drinkin <G> |
| 22:14.47 | propellerhead | but.... |
| 22:15.23 | propellerhead | why ztcfg see the card ok? |
| 22:15.36 | keith4_ | restart asterisk and pastebin the log |
| 22:15.52 | Jumpie | im incredibly impressed with this platform to say the least |
| 22:15.59 | propellerhead | OK keith4 |
| 22:16.58 | drmessano | Asterisk isn't bad.. it beats my 49MHZ intercoms, hands down |
| 22:17.40 | outtolunc | attempted doing intercom audio over my pair of rabbits once.. wasn't very good <G> |
| 22:18.55 | keith4_ | rabbits? |
| 22:18.59 | propellerhead | keith4 |
| 22:19.02 | propellerhead | [Mar 30 19:17:10] ERROR[3453] chan_zap.c: Unable to get parameters |
| 22:19.02 | propellerhead | [Mar 30 19:17:10] ERROR[3453] chan_zap.c: Unable to register channel '4' |
| 22:19.02 | propellerhead | [ |
| 22:19.18 | outtolunc | gemini rabbits |
| 22:19.22 | Jumpie | hehe |
| 22:19.48 | propellerhead | I'll send a asterisk -vvvvc output |
| 22:19.55 | Jumpie | drmessano ive been reading the 'asterisk the future of telephony' book |
| 22:20.00 | outtolunc | still has them <G> |
| 22:20.11 | Jumpie | ive always been aggravated by closed systems and no customization |
| 22:21.03 | drmessano | Yep.. Asterisk is great.. The devs even give out their home phone and cell numbers so you can call them at any time |
| 22:21.11 | Jumpie | ah cool |
| 22:21.13 | drmessano | I can give you russellb's if you have a pen |
| 22:21.18 | Jumpie | ya qwell tol dme about this book on another network |
| 22:21.26 | Jumpie | hah |
| 22:21.53 | Jumpie | i bought a used ibm netvista machine 2.8ghz p4 with 1.5gb ram just to test/play with |
| 22:22.03 | Jumpie | wil suffice for a few calls |
| 22:22.37 | drmessano | Yeah.. should handle more than a few calls lol |
| 22:22.46 | mvanbaak | gheh |
| 22:22.58 | mvanbaak | just lost a kilogram of 2 |
| 22:23.01 | mvanbaak | cut my hair |
| 22:23.01 | drmessano | But that's better than the "I got a PII 200 with 32MB Ram, CAN I HAZ AKERISK" |
| 22:23.05 | drmessano | So, well done |
| 22:23.59 | keith4_ | propellerhead, pastebin your zapata.conf somewhere |
| 22:24.36 | mvanbaak | drmessano: http://lunteren.vanbaak.info/michiels_haircut/index.html |
| 22:24.55 | jameswf-home | drmessano: godaddy is doing .info names for .99 cents you should buy one for your pbx project |
| 22:25.22 | jameswf-home | i was thinking xobxirt.info |
| 22:25.26 | drmessano | Holy crap |
| 22:25.33 | drmessano | lol |
| 22:25.45 | propellerhead | keith4_ http://pastebin.lugmen.org.ar/3940 |
| 22:25.47 | drmessano | happyclownpbx.info |
| 22:25.55 | jameswf-home | exactly |
| 22:26.19 | jameswf-home | put a picture of michael jackson on there and a bunch of half assed features |
| 22:26.36 | jameswf-home | :)) |
| 22:26.48 | propellerhead | And this is dmesg oputput http://pastebin.lugmen.org.ar/3941 |
| 22:27.59 | mvanbaak | drmessano: you see how my gf can make a moustage from my hair |
| 22:28.00 | mvanbaak | lol |
| 22:28.21 | Jumpie | lol DrAk0 |
| 22:28.23 | Jumpie | drmessano |
| 22:29.32 | keith4_ | propellerhead, your synax is wrong in zapata.conf |
| 22:29.33 | drmessano | yes |
| 22:29.39 | drmessano | thats hilarious |
| 22:30.10 | drmessano | I had my hair almost that long once |
| 22:30.13 | Jumpie | drmessano for now....before i buy a bunch of ip phones |
| 22:30.15 | drmessano | Shaved it BALD... |
| 22:30.18 | Jumpie | do you recommend a vendor for a cheap TA |
| 22:30.24 | *** join/#asterisk craigk (n=craigk@58.174.150.119) |
| 22:30.29 | keith4_ | TA? |
| 22:30.30 | Jumpie | so i can put my phones on? and do 'per room of the house extensions' for testing |
| 22:30.34 | Jumpie | terminal adapters |
| 22:30.34 | mvanbaak | drmessano: this is the shortest my gf wanted to cut it |
| 22:30.39 | Jumpie | for analog/ip `onversion |
| 22:30.40 | keith4_ | ATA? |
| 22:30.42 | Jumpie | er |
| 22:30.44 | Jumpie | sorry |
| 22:30.45 | Jumpie | yeah |
| 22:30.53 | drmessano | I like the Linksys PAP2s |
| 22:30.59 | drmessano | But thats me |
| 22:31.03 | Jumpie | as long as its not the ilnksys pap-smear |
| 22:31.06 | keith4_ | yarr |
| 22:31.10 | Jumpie | :# |
| 22:31.13 | drmessano | mvanbaak: Bald is never a good look, so good on her |
| 22:31.16 | DrAk0 | drmessano, they are ok but i had 2 one died all in the sudden |
| 22:31.27 | Jumpie | anything you can buy at best buy/microcenter? |
| 22:31.28 | Jumpie | or no |
| 22:31.32 | drmessano | No |
| 22:31.36 | Jumpie | k |
| 22:31.41 | DrAk0 | i don't like 3102 i find spa 3000 better than 3102 |
| 22:31.45 | drmessano | DrAk0: I have over 40 of them and havent had any die |
| 22:31.49 | Jumpie | i wonder if i can buy a pack on ebay |
| 22:32.42 | keith4_ | propellerhead, change "channel=4" to "channel => 4" |
| 22:32.50 | drmessano | You can buy kidneys on ebay |
| 22:32.52 | drmessano | So yes |
| 22:33.01 | Jumpie | ya i bought one on ebay |
| 22:33.07 | Jumpie | having a 3rd kidney has been helpful |
| 22:33.46 | Jumpie | drmessano ok whats a good place you recommend then |
| 22:33.54 | Jumpie | since you were being fairly sarcastic on that comment |
| 22:33.54 | Jumpie | :D |
| 22:34.03 | keith4_ | telephonydepot.com |
| 22:34.14 | drmessano | Get a PAP2 on eBay |
| 22:34.18 | drmessano | They're cheap enough |
| 22:34.32 | drmessano | See if you like * and the whole VoIP thing |
| 22:34.43 | propellerhead | keith4 when I started, I used => with the same result |
| 22:34.50 | Jumpie | lol |
| 22:34.52 | drmessano | Then go buy your stuff at telephonydepot.com |
| 22:35.02 | drmessano | or whoever |
| 22:35.03 | mvanbaak | I'm off to have sex |
| 22:35.06 | mvanbaak | latero all |
| 22:35.08 | Jumpie | yea....thats exactly what im doing, testing the waters first |
| 22:35.09 | drmessano | But an ebayed PAP2 is good |
| 22:35.10 | keith4_ | sure you are |
| 22:35.10 | drmessano | HA |
| 22:35.16 | propellerhead | I'm try again |
| 22:35.18 | drmessano | Later mvanbaak |
| 22:35.23 | Jumpie | our company is a networking and cabling company and i wanna offer voip to small companies like doctors, alwyers, |
| 22:35.33 | Jumpie | mvanbaak have fun |
| 22:35.50 | drmessano | Im off to make love to a taco.. BRB, dinner |
| 22:35.57 | Jumpie | dont get it stuck! |
| 22:36.03 | keith4_ | make sure to heat it in the microwave first |
| 22:36.06 | keith4_ | but not too hot |
| 22:36.43 | jameswf-home | I want hot wings..... |
| 22:37.25 | propellerhead | keith4 http://pastebin.lugmen.org.ar/3942 |
| 22:39.12 | erwinpogz | hello, my SIP provider said that we dont have username and password. they just gave me the IP of their SIP server. how can i register my asterisk? |
| 22:39.27 | propellerhead | btw keith4_, I'll compile the module again with the new zaptel-source |
| 22:39.35 | keith4_ | use module-assistant |
| 22:39.41 | ManxPower | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:39.48 | keith4_ | apt-get install module-assistant; m-a a-i zaptel |
| 22:39.49 | _ShrikE | erwinpogz: If you dont have any credintials you cant auth. |
| 22:40.20 | Jumpie | im kinda pissed off because i spent last night gettin ubuntu setup, configured, loading certain apps, etc |
| 22:40.23 | ManxPower | erwinpogz: the only thing registration does is tell the remote server what IP address is associated with which username/secret |
| 22:40.27 | Jumpie | then i find out asterisknow is gonna redo it all |
| 22:40.34 | erwinpogz | _ShrikE and ManxPower thanks |
| 22:40.41 | keith4_ | don't user asterisknow |
| 22:40.44 | keith4_ | or use it |
| 22:41.04 | ManxPower | Jumpie: all Asterisk GUIS use their own config files -- that's one of the main reasons we hate them |
| 22:41.17 | russellb | except the AsteriskGUI, which does not. |
| 22:41.17 | Jumpie | im using it because im using the appliances for some of my clients |
| 22:41.22 | russellb | and uses the asterisk config files only. |
| 22:41.32 | russellb | ManxPower: you don't speak for everyone. |
| 22:41.36 | erwinpogz | ManxPower even if we are PEER? |
| 22:41.49 | ManxPower | russellb: I use the royal We, of course. 8-) |
| 22:42.10 | Jumpie | im a bit apprehensive as a total noob to go the full out version |
| 22:42.24 | Jumpie | and the appliances are gonna have this one, maybe if i get a switchvox system or somethin i dunno, im gonna move up |
| 22:42.27 | Jumpie | i just need to get my feet wet |
| 22:42.57 | ManxPower | erwinpogz: technically peers never send calls to you, so they don't have to know your IP. |
| 22:43.25 | ManxPower | They might need to know your IP to permit/deny a host access, I don't know. |
| 22:44.04 | erwinpogz | ManxPower thats what they did, they permit our IP |
| 22:44.28 | erwinpogz | now my problem is how can i make a trunk to call out |
| 22:45.16 | Guggemand | just call number@theirhostname |
| 22:45.55 | erwinpogz | Guggemand let me try that |
| 22:47.08 | erwinpogz | Guggemand is this what you mean? exten => _91NXXNXXXXXX,2,Dial(sip/${EXTEN}@66.25.19.11) ? |
| 22:48.29 | erwinpogz | i tried it, it says No path to translate from SIP/66.25.19.11 |
| 22:48.34 | erwinpogz | :( |
| 22:48.46 | *** join/#asterisk ta^3 (n=tacvbo@189.136.26.14) |
| 22:51.01 | jameswf-home | ~asteriskgui |
| 22:51.35 | ManxPower | erwinpogz: It said a lot more than that |
| 22:52.19 | ManxPower | Usually it would be Dial(SIP/${EXTEN}@sipconfentry |
| 22:52.34 | ManxPower | or ${EXTEN:1} if that's what you need, of course |
| 22:52.48 | jameswf-home | ~sausagewallet |
| 22:54.03 | erwinpogz | hmm |
| 22:56.20 | *** join/#asterisk RoyK (n=roy@ip-22-54-149-91.dialup.ice.no) |
| 22:59.32 | kamaji | what is the "CONTACT" part of register => <FWD#>:<FWD_PASSWORD>@fwd.pulver.com/CONTACT meant to be ? |
| 22:59.41 | kamaji | in sip.conf |
| 22:59.53 | kamaji | an extension or what? |
| 23:00.28 | Guggemand | correct |
| 23:01.06 | *** join/#asterisk stansmith (n=stansmit@adsl-68-252-62-180.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net) |
| 23:02.05 | matt_ | does anybody know how i can match all phone numbers with a dialplan on a linksys pap2 device ? |
| 23:02.22 | Jumpie | *.* |
| 23:02.24 | Jumpie | ;) |
| 23:03.17 | *** join/#asterisk Frogzoo (n=Frogzoo@202.155.165.25) |
| 23:03.31 | matt_ | Jumpie| the reason i'm looking into a dialing plan is because there is a long pause after i dial the number and before the call it placed, i know i can press # to make it process the call but i would like to it S0 after i have press the correct amount of numbers |
| 23:03.48 | matt_ | but numbers from different countries seem to be different lengths |
| 23:05.26 | Guggemand | germany even have different lenghts in the same cities |
| 23:05.36 | Guggemand | so, good luck :) |
| 23:05.39 | matt_ | lol |
| 23:05.42 | matt_ | humm :( |
| 23:05.50 | matt_ | i wonder how companys do it |
| 23:06.06 | matt_ | i have seen cisco voip phones in the abbey branch i goto |
| 23:06.20 | matt_ | do they have really complex dialplans that are pushed to the phones |
| 23:06.30 | matt_ | or do they just let the users wait for a timeout |
| 23:06.54 | Guggemand | i know my snoms can send some stuff to the sip server for each keypress ... |
| 23:07.03 | *** join/#asterisk ZackZ (n=zzzz@64-136-221-136.dyn.everestkc.net) |
| 23:07.13 | ZackZ | hi |
| 23:07.13 | Guggemand | but i never tried it |
| 23:07.29 | Guggemand | i just press the number, and pick up my phone :) |
| 23:07.38 | matt_ | :) |
| 23:07.43 | matt_ | and it sends it when you pick it up |
| 23:07.47 | Guggemand | yep |
| 23:08.04 | matt_ | yea that works on my mobile when i use it with sip |
| 23:08.10 | matt_ | but not my linksys pap2 |
| 23:08.12 | ZackZ | anyone have an luck with "hints" and Polycom Expansion modules/650 phones? |
| 23:09.39 | *** join/#asterisk jm|home (n=jm|home@zen.jamiem.com) |
| 23:09.51 | ZackZ | i cant get the lamps to work correctly and i havent found very clear instructions |
| 23:10.20 | _ShrikE | ZackZ: be a little more specific |
| 23:10.34 | ZackZ | well, the lights on the modules dont turn red when people make calls |
| 23:10.43 | ZackZ | they just blink if the phone isnt registered |
| 23:10.52 | ZackZ | im not sure if i have what i need in my sip.conf |
| 23:11.26 | ZackZ | but havent found any clear instruction on what to put |
| 23:11.30 | _ShrikE | put the relevant portions of your sip.conf in a paste bin |
| 23:12.48 | *** part/#asterisk russellb (n=russell@asterisk/developer-and-stable-maintainer/drumkilla) |
| 23:14.40 | ZackZ | alright one sec |
| 23:16.16 | *** join/#asterisk emist_ (n=emist@unaffiliated/emist) |
| 23:17.09 | ZackZ | i added a few things, wanted to see if this looked right http://pastebin.com/da1d525e |
| 23:18.47 | *** part/#asterisk stansmith (n=stansmit@adsl-68-252-62-180.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net) |
| 23:19.08 | Jumpie | whast a budget ip phone solution? aastra ok? |
| 23:19.42 | Jumpie | want wireless |
| 23:21.24 | _ShrikE | ZackZ: It's limitonpeers=yes |
| 23:21.51 | *** join/#asterisk stansmith (n=stansmit@adsl-68-252-62-180.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net) |
| 23:22.16 | syntxerr | Jumpie, I love my aastra stuff |
| 23:22.43 | ZackZ | ah forget the S |
| 23:22.44 | ZackZ | ok |
| 23:22.49 | ZackZ | *forgot |
| 23:23.16 | ZackZ | i guess im wondering should it work fine with Asterisk assuming my config is right? |
| 23:23.53 | _ShrikE | ZackZ: limitonpeers and call-limit is important with 1.4 and presence |
| 23:23.59 | syntxerr | their wireless stuff is a lil pricy tho |
| 23:24.00 | _ShrikE | and polycoms |
| 23:24.20 | ZackZ | ok |
| 23:24.23 | syntxerr | what do those tags do? |
| 23:24.32 | ZackZ | i didnt have that initially so that is probably why it wasnt working :-P |
| 23:24.41 | _ShrikE | ZackZ: check and see |
| 23:24.56 | ZackZ | i cant exactly because im working remotely |
| 23:26.07 | ZackZ | also, not exactly asterisk question ,but do you know how to force polycom phones to reload the directory file? doesnt seem to happen on a regular reboot |
| 23:27.27 | Yourname`` | Ok, queues talk. Whose up for it? |
| 23:28.45 | drmessano | matt_ (*x.|x.) |
| 23:29.46 | _ShrikE | ZackZ: reload what directory file? |
| 23:30.03 | ZackZ | the 0000000000-directory.xml |
| 23:30.19 | _ShrikE | ZackZ: If I am not mistaken, they will only seed that file one time. |
| 23:30.27 | ZackZ | hmm |
| 23:30.49 | _ShrikE | ZackZ: read the manual, but I am pretty sure that is the deal. |
| 23:30.58 | ZackZ | ok, so i would have to make all separate files if i wanted to update them then |
| 23:31.08 | _ShrikE | ZackZ: I believe so, yes. |
| 23:31.39 | ZackZ | the ole Polycom admin guide is pretty sparse on explainations and applications :) |
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| 23:36.17 | _ShrikE | ZackZ: I think their manual is actually very good. |
| 23:36.51 | ZackZ | ya it documents everything pretty well |
| 23:39.42 | ZackZ | alright well thanks for you help |
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| 23:39.53 | drmessano | He said it's sparse |
| 23:39.55 | drmessano | Then agree |
| 23:39.57 | drmessano | Then agreed |
| 23:40.02 | drmessano | shakes his head |
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| 23:48.06 | jcaceres | hello i have some issue with zaptel, a am intending ti send calls to 12 celulinks using 3 tdm400, but it's not woking properly, i have captured the sounds sent with ztmonitor, i have even putted a telephone in paralel to the line in order to hear the dtmf sound |
| 23:48.44 | jcaceres | i have even done a matlab program to determine if the dtmfs are correct |
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| 23:48.56 | Jumpie | yay |
| 23:49.00 | Jumpie | pulled the wrong cord |
| 23:49.19 | jcaceres | but the calls do not start |
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| 23:49.42 | jcaceres | i think, my celulink needs more time to start the call |
| 23:50.07 | jcaceres | but just after 5 seconds the dial(zap.. is done |
| 23:50.15 | jcaceres | i receive this |
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| 23:50.39 | jcaceres | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:50.39 | jcaceres | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:50.39 | jcaceres | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:52.08 | jcaceres | it becames answerd, an i see in the celulink indicator that the loop es been donde, but not that the celphone is ringing |
| 23:52.12 | jcaceres | any idea |
| 23:52.13 | jcaceres | ? |
| 23:52.15 | jcaceres | plz |
| 23:52.17 | jcaceres | plz plz |
| 23:52.19 | jcaceres | :( |
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| 23:55.56 | jameswf-home | holy flood batman |
| 23:55.58 | jameswf-home | ~flood |
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