| 00:08.55 | [hC] | _ShrikE: [customercontext] - no relation to the dial plan |
| 00:09.12 | [hC] | it wasnt sip.conf, just tested that |
| 00:12.08 | [hC] | so it seems as though it uses the context that its using is the one that calls come from in the first place (in iax.conf) the weird thing is, it works fine when i dial straight in, but not when they do it internally... which is backwards. |
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| 00:36.47 | angryuser | whenre can i remove ztdummy ? |
| 00:37.02 | angryuser | how* |
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| 00:44.01 | znoG | Corydon76-dig: still around? |
| 00:44.37 | JunK-Y | angryuser: rmmod ztdummy ? |
| 00:45.16 | angryuser | ah sorry it was easyer /etc/default/zaptel, comment ztdummy |
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| 00:56.16 | Corydon76-dig | znoG: yes |
| 01:10.07 | znoG | Corydon76-dig: just wondering if you know what might be up with this. I registered with an IAX client to Asterisk and as soon as I register, I can call an extension I configured in LDAP just fine. If I leave it alone for a couple of secs, I dial again and I get a no route to destination. If I try again a few times, it eventually gets to dial again. |
| 01:10.14 | znoG | Corydon76-dig: any ideas what could be wrong? |
| 01:12.27 | Corydon76-dig | znoG: rtcachefriends |
| 01:12.38 | flush | negga |
| 01:12.59 | flush | yes yes is me |
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| 01:18.26 | znoG | Corydon76-dig: on or off? |
| 01:19.03 | znoG | ahh, i had it on for SIP but not IAX |
| 01:19.35 | znoG | lets try.. |
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| 01:25.11 | znoG | Corydon76-dig: love your work! :) |
| 01:25.15 | znoG | Corydon76-dig: thankssss! |
| 01:25.25 | znoG | Corydon76-dig: i wasn't sure what rtcachefriends did .. i guess i know, now |
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| 03:01.43 | Katty | allo. |
| 03:02.02 | Katty | :< |
| 03:02.07 | drmessano | oh no |
| 03:02.13 | Katty | what did i do this time. |
| 03:02.24 | russellb | you had a nick collision from services! |
| 03:02.27 | russellb | that always means bad news |
| 03:02.38 | Katty | yeah i should just screen it |
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| 03:03.25 | Katty | reddit has most amusing posts tonight. |
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| 03:05.05 | Katty | [hC]: allo |
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| 03:09.09 | Katty | so quiet : |
| 03:09.10 | Katty | :< |
| 03:09.16 | Katty | jbot: why so quiet? |
| 03:09.16 | jbot | why not? |
| 03:09.40 | russellb | nice. |
| 03:09.44 | russellb | jbot: get loud |
| 03:09.45 | jbot | ACTION fetches loud |
| 03:09.54 | russellb | jbot: be loud |
| 03:10.10 | Qwell | ~loud |
| 03:10.52 | Katty | hi Qwell! |
| 03:11.00 | Qwell | what did I do? |
| 03:11.05 | Katty | you appeared. |
| 03:11.17 | Qwell | when did I disappear? |
| 03:11.36 | Katty | just shut up and hug me. |
| 03:11.42 | Katty | jbot: hug? |
| 03:11.52 | Qwell | ~hug |
| 03:11.52 | jbot | ACTION hugs qwell |
| 03:12.02 | Katty | :< |
| 03:13.08 | Katty | jbot: Qwell's not nice. |
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| 03:13.13 | Qwell | he is too |
| 03:13.19 | Katty | hey _ShrikE-LT (= |
| 03:13.30 | _ShrikE-LT | Hey Katty |
| 03:13.31 | Katty | jbot: Qwell won't hug me. it hurts my feelings. |
| 03:13.47 | Qwell | Qwell doesn't hug |
| 03:13.57 | Katty | something's wrong with Qwell. |
| 03:14.01 | russellb | jbot: hug Qwell |
| 03:14.02 | jbot | ACTION sneaks up on Qwell and suddenly hugs Qwell tightly |
| 03:14.03 | _ShrikE-LT | Katty, has sendmail given you any love? |
| 03:14.28 | Katty | _ShrikE-LT: no, and i gave it the cold shoulder for the rest of the night. he'll come around monday |
| 03:14.35 | russellb | jbot: o.O |
| 03:18.21 | Katty | it doesn't feel like a proper friday night :/ |
| 03:18.34 | Qwell | what would be proper? |
| 03:18.43 | russellb | yes, whyfor not? |
| 03:19.02 | Katty | i'd still be out at logans or apple bees or ruby tuesdays |
| 03:19.11 | Qwell | still? |
| 03:19.15 | Katty | oh yes |
| 03:19.20 | Katty | we take a group (= |
| 03:19.29 | Katty | but alas, it's snowing tonight. no one wanted to stay out. |
| 03:20.25 | Katty | hey you (= |
| 03:20.30 | russellb | yeah, it's getting all icy here ... i didn't want to be on the road |
| 03:20.39 | russellb | so ... i have me, myself, wine, and my computer |
| 03:20.45 | JunK-Y | Katty: do you have a storm too? |
| 03:20.49 | Katty | ooh, what sort of wine? |
| 03:20.59 | Katty | JunK-Y: yeah :/ sposed to get another 6 inches tonight. |
| 03:21.35 | JunK-Y | same here |
| 03:21.40 | Katty | ugah |
| 03:21.41 | JunK-Y | did you get the same 2 days ago? |
| 03:21.48 | Katty | hmm |
| 03:22.10 | Katty | yea, i guess about that time we had an inch of ice and some light snow. |
| 03:22.50 | JunK-Y | and im sure russellb got nothing down there! |
| 03:23.29 | Katty | bastard!!! |
| 03:23.59 | JunK-Y | bastard for real! |
| 03:24.03 | drmessano | russellb: I'm your friend |
| 03:24.08 | russellb | yeah, i have seen snow in the air, but none on the ground |
| 03:24.13 | russellb | drmessano: why thank you |
| 03:24.53 | drmessano | Top16.. |
| 03:25.15 | drmessano | Thats WAY better than being a top24'er |
| 03:25.23 | russellb | i'm in your top16? |
| 03:25.35 | russellb | WTF am i doing there and not top 8?! |
| 03:25.49 | russellb | </3 |
| 03:25.55 | Katty | hey Nugget |
| 03:25.59 | drmessano | Actually.. no, I hate myspace.. But i'll add you to facebook where everyone is equally shunned |
| 03:26.09 | Nugget | moo! |
| 03:26.09 | russellb | ooh |
| 03:26.12 | russellb | i am on facebook. |
| 03:26.17 | BeeBuu | i had installed the asterisk-app-fax, how to use it? |
| 03:26.22 | russellb | BeeBuu: magic |
| 03:26.29 | Nugget | myspace is a fscking cesspool. |
| 03:26.32 | Katty | i'venot logged into facebook in forever. |
| 03:26.32 | BeeBuu | russellb: magic? |
| 03:26.40 | russellb | BeeBuu: pretty much, yeah. |
| 03:27.00 | drmessano | I'd add Qwell, but "James Qwelldor" doesn't exist :( |
| 03:27.14 | drmessano | Of course, that's what he TOLD me his real name was.. |
| 03:27.34 | JunK-Y | qwelldor hhehe |
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| 03:27.41 | JunK-Y | sounds like lord of the rings! |
| 03:27.49 | drmessano | HA |
| 03:27.58 | drmessano | "I'M A PALADIN!!!" |
| 03:28.19 | russellb | someone just added pics of my to facebook from high school marching band, heh |
| 03:28.20 | BeeBuu | russellb: i dont' know how to use it,please help |
| 03:28.37 | Nugget | http://youtube.com/watch?v=iEWgs6YQR9A <-- paladin |
| 03:28.52 | drmessano | You see the tribute to Gary Gygax in XKCD? |
| 03:29.00 | Nugget | yeah, that was a great xkcd |
| 03:29.20 | drmessano | That pwned |
| 03:29.24 | drmessano | http://www.xkcd.com/393/ |
| 03:29.41 | Katty | russellb: let me guess.... |
| 03:29.43 | Katty | russellb: trumpet? |
| 03:30.18 | russellb | wrong |
| 03:30.20 | russellb | try again! |
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| 03:30.31 | Katty | :< |
| 03:30.34 | Katty | trombone |
| 03:30.38 | russellb | wrong! |
| 03:30.41 | Katty | ! |
| 03:30.42 | Katty | alto? |
| 03:30.47 | russellb | incorrect. |
| 03:30.51 | Katty | drummer |
| 03:30.57 | russellb | there ya go |
| 03:31.05 | Katty | tenor myself |
| 03:31.08 | drmessano | Geez |
| 03:31.12 | russellb | check out my hostmask :-p |
| 03:31.12 | drmessano | What tipped ya off |
| 03:31.20 | drmessano | "drumkilla" |
| 03:31.22 | drmessano | HEH yeah |
| 03:31.37 | drumkilla | i used to use this nick all the time ... |
| 03:31.41 | drumkilla | but then i got all serious :( |
| 03:31.49 | Katty | who else wants to me thier facebookpage |
| 03:31.57 | drumkilla | add meeee |
| 03:32.10 | level17paladin | yay |
| 03:32.15 | drumkilla | w00t |
| 03:33.17 | drmessano | I need new pics for Facebook |
| 03:33.50 | drmessano | I grow a goatee and it hides just enough of the ugly |
| 03:34.40 | Qwell | ~nowwhat |
| 03:34.41 | jbot | So you just installed Asterisk now what? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULgwbvj768E |
| 03:34.42 | Katty | heh |
| 03:35.25 | drmessano | It's just like |
| 03:35.29 | drmessano | ..a mini mall |
| 03:35.51 | drumkilla | lol |
| 03:36.11 | drmessano | I guess I need to be the genius that strips the audio from it and makes the MP3 available |
| 03:36.13 | Nugget | heh |
| 03:36.35 | drmessano | Perfect for the black hole telemarketer IVR |
| 03:36.37 | Katty | hrmm, bed time. |
| 03:36.39 | Katty | glater |
| 03:36.41 | drmessano | later |
| 03:36.51 | Corydon76-dig | Night, Katty |
| 03:36.59 | drumkilla | it's ... so .... early |
| 03:37.18 | drmessano | I think "bed time" is "code" |
| 03:37.23 | drumkilla | oic |
| 03:37.32 | drmessano | O.o |
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| 03:37.41 | drumkilla | drmessano: you look so extremely familiar. |
| 03:38.21 | drmessano | That's scary |
| 03:38.34 | drumkilla | heh ... i realized who it is i was thinking of though |
| 03:38.41 | drmessano | Phew |
| 03:38.54 | drmessano | I was going to ask you how often you go to the post office |
| 03:39.04 | drumkilla | ha ... |
| 03:39.09 | drumkilla | certainly not the PO in GA ... |
| 03:39.47 | drmessano | I meant seeing my pic on the wall |
| 03:40.03 | drumkilla | oh, ha |
| 03:40.08 | drumkilla | sorry ..... |
| 03:40.16 | drumkilla | i thought you meant you frequented the PO or something |
| 03:40.20 | drumkilla | i totally missed the joke :( |
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| 03:40.27 | drmessano | lol |
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| 03:43.09 | FuriousGeorge | hey all |
| 03:43.28 | drmessano | Hell AngryJorge |
| 03:43.34 | drmessano | Or HELLO |
| 03:43.49 | drmessano | Sorry, didn't mean to wish hell on you |
| 03:43.57 | drmessano | I'm just a paladin :( |
| 03:45.02 | FuriousGeorge | lol |
| 03:45.11 | FuriousGeorge | does anyone else have this issue: |
| 03:45.12 | FuriousGeorge | http://pastebin.ca/933152 |
| 03:45.22 | FuriousGeorge | sip channels call eachother and stay hung... |
| 03:45.33 | FuriousGeorge | users report its mostly when transfering |
| 03:46.08 | FuriousGeorge | im thinking of upgrading to 1.4, but i have four asterisk servers installed, and when the 1.4 boxes hang channels, they tend to be FXO! |
| 03:46.28 | FuriousGeorge | which is worse... maybe i should just turn of presence no one would notice |
| 03:51.01 | drumkilla | omfg, shark |
| 03:52.21 | drmessano | lol |
| 03:52.23 | drumkilla | don't cry |
| 03:52.26 | drumkilla | it'll be ok |
| 03:52.29 | drumkilla | UNTIL IT FREAKING EATS YOU |
| 03:52.47 | FuriousGeorge | ive been googling around, and it appears that a lot of things can cause asterisk to do this. im not the only one having this problem. i know that the answer-after feature causes it |
| 03:52.51 | drmessano | app_shark <-- |
| 03:52.54 | FuriousGeorge | answer-after:0 |
| 03:53.50 | drmessano | (o).(O) |
| 03:54.10 | drmessano | <O^O> WHO? |
| 03:54.31 | drumkilla | >_< |
| 03:54.47 | drmessano | ^^V^^ <---Watch out for the batz |
| 03:54.47 | drumkilla | <("<) ^("^) (^")^ (>")> |
| 03:55.57 | drmessano | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:55.57 | drmessano | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:55.57 | drmessano | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:56.12 | drmessano | Braille Shark.... If only it was too late by the time you read it |
| 03:56.22 | drmessano | wasn't |
| 03:56.33 | FuriousGeorge | you know, if i just waited for every point release right when it came out, i would probably reboot asterisk enough that the hung channels wouldnt matter ;) |
| 03:56.47 | drmessano | What version are you on? |
| 03:57.00 | FuriousGeorge | this one is... |
| 03:57.21 | drumkilla | 4 |
| 03:57.30 | FuriousGeorge | 1.2.16 |
| 03:57.35 | drumkilla | ... |
| 03:57.35 | drmessano | ZOMG |
| 03:57.39 | FuriousGeorge | lol |
| 03:57.43 | drumkilla | you could at least try the latest 1.2 |
| 03:57.46 | drumkilla | good lord |
| 03:58.01 | JunK-Y | why on friday night, ive to do homeworks?? |
| 03:58.03 | drmessano | If you waited for every point release, you wouldn't be 10 behind |
| 03:58.43 | drumkilla | $ ./changes_since asterisk 1.2.16 |
| 03:58.43 | drumkilla | Changes since asterisk Version 1.2.16/ - svn revision 57559 |
| 03:58.43 | drumkilla | 266 |
| 03:58.50 | drmessano | Don't get me wrong.. 1.2.16 was a great release.. Made 1993 that much better of a year |
| 03:58.52 | FuriousGeorge | drmessano: i said i should, not that i do. call me crazy, but i tend to take a 'leave well enough alone' approach with asterisk. ive had such problems with 1.4... same idea, channels hang, but 1.4 hangs pots channels. with 1.2 i just need to soft hangup 20 sip channels once a week |
| 03:59.02 | FuriousGeorge | ;) |
| 03:59.16 | drumkilla | $ ./changes_since asterisk 1.2.16 channels/chan_sip.c |
| 03:59.16 | drumkilla | Changes since asterisk Version 1.2.16/channels/chan_sip.c - svn revision 57559 |
| 03:59.16 | drumkilla | 44 |
| 03:59.19 | drumkilla | just sayin' |
| 03:59.19 | drumkilla | :) |
| 03:59.39 | drumkilla | (and those are changes only in the 1.2 series) |
| 03:59.43 | drmessano | Leaving well enough alone with a project as active as Asterisk is silly |
| 04:00.09 | FuriousGeorge | drmessano: i havent upgraded any of their kernels in over a year either |
| 04:00.15 | JunK-Y | drumkilla: whats in the script changes_since asterisk exactly? a counter of commit ? |
| 04:00.28 | drmessano | Upgrading every point release may be extreme, but there's not excuse to be 10 behind |
| 04:00.29 | drumkilla | JunK-Y: pretty much ... |
| 04:00.31 | drumkilla | it's a hack |
| 04:00.57 | JunK-Y | that will be great to know that a specific version (like 1.2.16) is based on which svn rev. |
| 04:01.05 | drumkilla | changes_since asterisk 1.2.0 ....... 1176 |
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| 04:12.55 | *** topic/#asterisk is Asterisk: The Open Source PBX and Telephony Platform (asterisk.org) -=- Asterisk 1.6.0-beta5 (2008/03/05), Asterisk 1.4.19-rc1 (2008/03/05), *-Addons 1.4.6, 1.6.0-beta2 (2008/02/21), Zaptel 1.4.9.2 (2008/02/28), Libpri 1.4.3 (2007/12/13) -=- #asterisknow or #asterisk-gui for AsteriskNOW (asterisknow.org) -=- #switchvox for Switchvox (switchvox.com) -=- #freepbx for FreePBX/trixbox -=- FYI: sharks sighted today |
| 04:13.45 | drumkilla | ~roulette |
| 04:13.46 | jbot | ACTION watches drumkilla pull the trigger: Click! |
| 04:17.35 | drmessano | So.... |
| 04:17.42 | drmessano | Which Pika board should I get for my PBX |
| 04:18.20 | drumkilla | srsly? |
| 04:18.38 | drmessano | Dude.. they're all the rage |
| 04:18.42 | drmessano | All the cool kids have em |
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| 04:19.48 | drmessano | When did the ugly 1991 dark green PC boards come back in style? |
| 04:20.02 | drmessano | I have seen that color since VESA slots were cool |
| 04:20.29 | drumkilla | apparently their boards have been around since 1988 |
| 04:20.33 | drumkilla | which makes them better i guess |
| 04:21.09 | drmessano | Spam has been around for over 70 years.. the first years batch should be expiring any day now... |
| 04:21.17 | drmessano | Doesnt mean it's good |
| 04:23.23 | drmessano | Since when is "dynamic thermal management" a feature? |
| 04:23.35 | drmessano | "When it overheats and catches fire, you'll be the first to know" |
| 04:24.03 | drumkilla | lol |
| 04:24.07 | drumkilla | that's called a "fan" |
| 04:24.27 | drumkilla | fan ---> marketing bs filter ---> dynamic thermal management |
| 04:25.01 | drmessano | The Asterisk appliance doesn't have a USB port.. Lazy asses.. How am I gonna plug my Wal Mart Skype phone in? |
| 04:25.12 | drumkilla | lol |
| 04:25.28 | drumkilla | obviously a product requirement |
| 04:25.29 | drmessano | WTF kind of FEATURE is that |
| 04:25.41 | drmessano | "Oh man, my PBX doesn't have a USB port" |
| 04:26.01 | drumkilla | well, there are some USB interfaces ... |
| 04:26.08 | drmessano | Doesn't have a firewire port either.. and seems to be short of monochrome video outputs |
| 04:26.12 | drumkilla | not sure you'd use it with an applicance that already has said interfaces, though ... |
| 04:26.47 | drmessano | I'm sold on the Pika now.. |
| 04:26.50 | drmessano | It has a backlight |
| 04:26.57 | drumkilla | d00d, it also has a reset button |
| 04:27.08 | drumkilla | i got tingly inside when i heard that |
| 04:27.12 | drumkilla | totally sold |
| 04:27.17 | drmessano | Probably a highly requested feature |
| 04:27.49 | drumkilla | i love trolling |
| 04:28.54 | drmessano | I bet they wore out lots of power jacks with users resetting them weekly, so they added a reset button good for 100,000,000 events |
| 04:29.50 | drmessano | What is an FXO analog trunk? |
| 04:29.54 | drmessano | Hmm |
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| 04:36.06 | drmessano | Oh my god |
| 04:36.16 | drumkilla | you called? |
| 04:36.26 | drmessano | http://www.voip-news.com/blog/20080307/pbxtra-40-released-with-new-features/ <---- Read the part about mouseclick and keyboard detection |
| 04:37.15 | drmessano | In other words, HUD now has an auto-away on idle that changes the followme status.. |
| 04:37.20 | drmessano | Whoopdedoo |
| 04:38.03 | drmessano | I can do that with Openfire/Spark and Asterisk |
| 04:38.37 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano, And just like Trixbox, phones home and links to NSA/DHS/FBI and RNC databases ;) |
| 04:39.19 | drumkilla | RNC? lol |
| 04:39.51 | drmessano | Im sure that's improved in 4.0 it contact the KGB and the Bundespolizei |
| 04:42.26 | drmessano | PBXtra sounds like a candy bar |
| 04:43.11 | [TK]D-Fender | drumkilla, Don't worry... I'm sure the last one will erase all evidence whenever required/convenient/incriminating |
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| 04:44.29 | drmessano | Ron Paul is listening |
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| 04:48.19 | Nugget | I donated to the Paul campaign, but I voted for Obama. |
| 04:48.35 | Nugget | I'm going to be a delegate in the texas caucus, which should be an interesting experienec |
| 04:48.36 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano, Yes... but is he RUNNING for anything. he lost (if you wish to imply he had a chance) the Republican nomination. He's ammased quite a lot of money, and if he doesn't make a HUGE noise as an independant/libertarian I'm going to be extremely disappointed. |
| 04:49.35 | [TK]D-Fender | I don't understand the "delegate" process at all... something I should read up on. |
| 04:49.52 | Nugget | it's fuzzy to me too, which is partly why I was motivated to do it. |
| 04:49.54 | drumkilla | politics ftl |
| 04:50.11 | [TK]D-Fender | drumkilla, "may you live in interesting times" |
| 04:50.17 | drumkilla | oic |
| 04:50.32 | [TK]D-Fender | drumkilla, a blind eye deserves to be gouged out with a rusty spork. |
| 04:51.12 | [TK]D-Fender | <- chock full of collected wisdom |
| 04:51.45 | [TK]D-Fender | or as my girlfriend says : an enigma, wrapped in a riddle, covered with whipped-cream and a cherry on top. |
| 04:51.52 | drumkilla | you make no sense! |
| 04:51.53 | [TK]D-Fender | in otherwords "sweet & mysterious" |
| 04:52.16 | [TK]D-Fender | drumkilla, metaphorically challenged! |
| 04:52.27 | drumkilla | [TK]D-Fender: drunk! |
| 04:52.51 | [TK]D-Fender | drumkilla, are you? |
| 04:52.59 | [TK]D-Fender | drumkilla, don't drink & IRC.... |
| 04:53.03 | drumkilla | lol |
| 04:53.14 | drumkilla | dangerous combination? |
| 04:53.19 | [TK]D-Fender | you start tosdhakhsdthasjhaksjjjlasdhlkasdh |
| 04:54.08 | [TK]D-Fender | Yay I successfully set up my first full mail server today.... |
| 04:54.18 | drumkilla | unpossible |
| 04:54.41 | [TK]D-Fender | drumkilla, you misunderestimate me! |
| 04:54.56 | drumkilla | i kid ... |
| 04:54.59 | drumkilla | i'm sure you owned it. |
| 04:55.14 | [TK]D-Fender | drumkilla, Yes I own it.. now can I make it work :) |
| 04:55.43 | drumkilla | you implied that you already did |
| 04:57.40 | [TK]D-Fender | drumkilla, well, just a little thing I'm testing now. removing the host-name it tacked on (squirrelmail) |
| 04:57.47 | [TK]D-Fender | drumkilla, this is all SOP for me. |
| 04:57.56 | drumkilla | cool. |
| 04:58.15 | drmessano | I successfully left my job today |
| 04:58.16 | drumkilla | for the record, i really like cheezits. |
| 04:58.17 | drumkilla | that is all. |
| 04:58.21 | drumkilla | drmessano: orly?! |
| 04:58.26 | drmessano | Yep |
| 04:58.28 | drmessano | Done.. gone |
| 04:58.36 | drumkilla | job.next == ? |
| 04:58.58 | Qwell | 1 |
| 04:59.34 | drmessano | I got a job working for an IT service company.. It's a step down from whatever "management" status I had, but it's more money and actually putting hands on tech that isn't corporate controlled and locked down |
| 05:00.11 | drmessano | and besides that, Clear Channel sucks.. |
| 05:00.25 | drmessano | I waited 7 years to say that |
| 05:00.27 | drmessano | LOL |
| 05:00.35 | drmessano | And #asterisk got the scoop |
| 05:02.31 | Qwell | you worked for clear channel? |
| 05:02.39 | Qwell | oh, right, radio |
| 05:02.47 | drmessano | yeah |
| 05:03.13 | denon | huh, I didnt know you worked for CC |
| 05:03.22 | denon | I always knew there was somethin kinda slimey about you, though |
| 05:03.35 | drmessano | Pretty bad when your company is such a technological dinosaur that you have to go home to stay on top of emerging tech |
| 05:03.40 | Nugget | oh, I know there are some other pilots in here... |
| 05:03.51 | Nugget | http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N750CX/history/20080307/1757Z/KICT/KICT |
| 05:03.59 | Nugget | nutty cessna test pilots. |
| 05:04.37 | drmessano | LOL |
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| 05:06.00 | drmessano | denon: You see how proud I was lol |
| 05:06.12 | denon | uh huh |
| 05:06.39 | denon | though, I dont understand why you quit .. you didn't like working for lucifer? |
| 05:06.51 | denon | I mean, sure, the heat .. but . . |
| 05:07.06 | denon | well, ok, I guess there is no upside |
| 05:07.09 | drmessano | Well.. |
| 05:07.49 | drmessano | Several years ago, I found that the knowledge required for the job seemed to be dropping off rapidly as the amount of innovation dropped off dramatically |
| 05:08.32 | drmessano | I took on other responsibilites just to stave off the boredom |
| 05:08.46 | denon | boredom .. what a nice thought |
| 05:08.51 | drmessano | But now that Clear Channel is a sinking ship, it got to be too much |
| 05:10.17 | drmessano | I asked about installing VoIP |
| 05:10.20 | drmessano | Last year.. |
| 05:10.47 | drmessano | "We need to see where VoIP is going.. it could be just another fad, and something else could take it's place that will make spending money on VoIP wasted" |
| 05:11.13 | JunK-Y | i wonder if I should buy the iphone, with the new SDK. |
| 05:11.16 | drmessano | So we stuck with an 11 year old NEC Electra Elite |
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| 05:11.21 | drmessano | lol |
| 05:11.39 | denon | heh |
| 05:11.47 | denon | you haven't heard? voip is a fad |
| 05:11.51 | denon | so is ebay |
| 05:12.16 | drmessano | Took us 8 years to upgrade from T1s to.... dual T1s.. and we still have two sites sharing one 3MB line |
| 05:12.50 | denon | hah |
| 05:14.12 | denon | so after working there for how many years .. |
| 05:14.18 | denon | you know what skywave is? |
| 05:14.23 | denon | or doesn't anyone remember what the name means |
| 05:14.39 | drmessano | As in "Clear channel stations" |
| 05:14.45 | denon | yeah |
| 05:14.48 | drmessano | Yep |
| 05:14.58 | denon | bouncing off the ionosphere at night |
| 05:15.00 | drmessano | Good ole 50KW'ers |
| 05:15.32 | drmessano | The FCC killed that several times over |
| 05:15.47 | denon | yeah |
| 05:15.55 | denon | was a cool idea, but not very .. I dunno, economic |
| 05:17.08 | drmessano | Nobody in Guam wants to hear a spot for the $2 car wash in Shanbonog, Minnesota |
| 05:17.55 | denon | at 2am? who cares :) |
| 05:18.14 | drmessano | Syndication gave you the ability to still get a program on the air nationwide, but doing it over 100 stations and everyone sharing revenue |
| 05:18.18 | drmessano | All about the $$$ |
| 05:18.30 | denon | nod |
| 05:18.32 | denon | hence "economic" |
| 05:18.37 | drmessano | yep |
| 05:18.38 | denon | not as in cheap .. as in good for the economy |
| 05:19.16 | drmessano | Now that Google has it's hands in it all, it wont ever be the same |
| 05:19.38 | drmessano | Im waiting for Google PBX Ads |
| 05:19.41 | denon | yeah, Im yet to really play with that .. |
| 05:19.45 | denon | but it is pretty slick looking |
| 05:20.20 | drmessano | If Google can do Ad insertion on radio, you could do that with MOH too |
| 05:20.36 | drmessano | Adsense for Asterisk... hmmm |
| 05:21.05 | denon | hah, we'd need a non-flakey streamining player first |
| 05:21.10 | drmessano | lol |
| 05:21.25 | drmessano | Actually |
| 05:21.42 | drmessano | All you need is a rotating dummy track in your MOH |
| 05:21.43 | denon | no, no we dont |
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| 05:21.52 | drmessano | and an app to replace the track every so often |
| 05:21.53 | denon | hehe |
| 05:22.12 | denon | but it'd be so much cooler streamed .. per-call |
| 05:22.17 | drmessano | Oh yes |
| 05:22.19 | denon | because you could pass the caller's DID to google |
| 05:22.24 | denon | and it'd give them regional stuff |
| 05:22.32 | drmessano | Damn.. Thats good |
| 05:22.36 | denon | and you pass in the queue they're calling for, and it'd give them technical or sales material |
| 05:22.50 | denon | and how long the hold times currently are, will tell you how long of an ad you can give em |
| 05:23.06 | denon | if they've been on hold a long time, you an do something funny about that, to get their attention |
| 05:23.09 | drmessano | You SURE that YOU don't work for CC? |
| 05:23.11 | denon | short time, you dont have long to sell |
| 05:23.22 | drmessano | lol |
| 05:23.24 | denon | yeah, I do some marketing consulting :) |
| 05:23.26 | denon | not for CC though |
| 05:23.59 | drmessano | CC uses boxes called the "G" servers |
| 05:24.21 | drmessano | But it could just as well be an app |
| 05:24.48 | denon | G.clear? |
| 05:25.10 | drmessano | G was the codeword for Google |
| 05:25.15 | denon | ah |
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| 05:25.19 | drmessano | Since they didnt want to make it all public |
| 05:25.21 | denon | thought you meant the codec |
| 05:25.25 | drmessano | No no |
| 05:25.47 | denon | well, it's obviously public when you look at google's radio ad interface |
| 05:26.00 | drmessano | It is _now_.. wasn't for a while early on |
| 05:26.12 | denon | oic |
| 05:26.18 | drmessano | So they called it "project G" and the "G servers" |
| 05:26.19 | drmessano | lol |
| 05:26.30 | drmessano | Clever |
| 05:26.41 | denon | yeah, nobody will guess that |
| 05:26.47 | denon | why not just call them a codename? |
| 05:26.53 | denon | codename whitaker or something |
| 05:26.57 | drmessano | Backrub? |
| 05:27.04 | denon | hah |
| 05:27.18 | drmessano | That would have been classic |
| 05:28.31 | drmessano | It would be interesting to see if Ad insertion in MOH could take off |
| 05:28.46 | drmessano | Especially if you did adlets |
| 05:29.01 | drmessano | Adlets would be the best way to go |
| 05:29.19 | denon | well .. |
| 05:29.21 | denon | Ive got the ideas |
| 05:29.22 | denon | you code it |
| 05:29.29 | drmessano | lol |
| 05:29.39 | denon | I'll syndicate it through goog |
| 05:30.03 | drmessano | If this did take off.. Promise me one thing |
| 05:30.30 | denon | we call it Clear Trunk? |
| 05:30.45 | drmessano | Lets not end up douchebags like Jerry Yang and David Filo.. Larry and Sergey are WAY cooler |
| 05:31.04 | denon | hehe |
| 05:32.26 | denon | you dont like Clear Trunk? |
| 05:32.29 | drmessano | I wonder how many times Jerry Yang got drunk and asked some chick if she wanted to see his "Yahoo".. then whipped out his business card |
| 05:32.48 | denon | with a name like "Yang".. |
| 05:32.50 | drmessano | Clear Trunk is great... It's big brotherish.. |
| 05:33.10 | denon | channel/trunk .. |
| 05:33.15 | denon | I'm sure you got the IAX2 connection |
| 05:33.24 | drmessano | Yeah |
| 05:33.56 | drmessano | lol |
| 05:34.13 | drmessano | Alright.. I need to run for a bit.. time for our weekly late night grocery run |
| 05:34.17 | drmessano | Be back in a bit |
| 05:34.22 | denon | audios |
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| 05:51.03 | joe | any of you running * on a paravirtualized Xen domU ? |
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| 06:18.05 | BeeBuu | new to iax |
| 06:18.25 | BeeBuu | how can i dial to a iax? |
| 06:18.50 | BeeBuu | dial(iax2/9933) does not work. |
| 06:22.48 | [TK]D-Fender | BeeBuu, Got a peer named [9933] in iax.conf? |
| 06:23.38 | BeeBuu | yes |
| 06:23.45 | BeeBuu | oh,no |
| 06:23.52 | BeeBuu | [user01] |
| 06:24.32 | [TK]D-Fender | BeeBuu, then I guess 9933 isn't going to get you very far... |
| 06:24.50 | BeeBuu | if two iax user want to call each other,how to do that? |
| 06:25.41 | [TK]D-Fender | BeeBuu, make an exten that actually dials the other peer. |
| 06:26.27 | BeeBuu | dial(iax2/someonename?) |
| 06:26.37 | [TK]D-Fender | BeeBuu, just like a SIP device |
| 06:27.50 | BeeBuu | Ok. |
| 06:28.01 | BeeBuu | let me try,thanks |
| 06:32.44 | BeeBuu | can i use a nickname in iax.conf for login? |
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| 06:42.06 | [TK]D-Fender | BeeBuu : its just like SIP effectively |
| 06:42.33 | BeeBuu | em... |
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| 06:44.11 | drmessano | Oh, it's my good friend BeeBuu |
| 06:44.26 | BeeBuu | :-) |
| 06:44.47 | BeeBuu | drmessano: i just a newbie~~~ |
| 06:45.03 | drmessano | ~whatnow |
| 06:45.04 | jbot | well, now is a good time to tell you that I have 6 gigabytes of data |
| 06:45.11 | drmessano | ~nowwhat |
| 06:45.12 | jbot | So you just installed Asterisk now what? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULgwbvj768E |
| 06:46.52 | joe | wow, that's random |
| 06:47.48 | BeeBuu | drmessano: in fact ,you are my good friend in asterisk |
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| 06:48.13 | drmessano | It's just like.... a mini mall |
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| 07:18.13 | obnauticus | drmessano what do you get with an E1 line |
| 07:18.14 | obnauticus | lik |
| 07:18.15 | obnauticus | e |
| 07:18.25 | obnauticus | i mean DS3 |
| 07:18.26 | obnauticus | my bad |
| 07:18.26 | obnauticus | lol |
| 07:21.22 | obnauticus | And does anyone here know of a provider that gives unlimited free calls to countries restriction free, with a subscription or something |
| 07:21.42 | drmessano | What do you mean "What do you get?" |
| 07:21.48 | obnauticus | i figured it out |
| 07:21.55 | obnauticus | i wanted to know how many frames |
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| 07:28.52 | coppice | you only get framed on the channels which the NSA is tapping |
| 07:29.00 | drmessano | lol |
| 07:29.03 | obnauticus | hey |
| 07:29.06 | obnauticus | HEY! |
| 07:29.11 | drmessano | DSP = Doesnt Stop Police |
| 07:29.35 | obnauticus | DTMB = Don't Tase Me bro. |
| 07:29.55 | drmessano | lol |
| 07:30.04 | drmessano | relaxdtmb=yes ? |
| 07:35.28 | drmessano | ~kwyjibo |
| 07:36.04 | obnauticus | dtmb |
| 07:36.12 | obnauticus | dtmb=rfc2833 |
| 07:37.45 | drmessano | ~kwyjibo |
| 07:37.46 | jbot | Twenty-two points, plus triple-word-score, plus fifty points for using all my letters. Game's over. I'm outta here. |
| 07:39.03 | obnauticus | drmessano do you know of any providers that give sh*t loads of minutes for cheap.. in bulk |
| 07:41.38 | drmessano | ~kwyjibo |
| 07:41.38 | jbot | <Bart> K-W-Y-J-I-B-O... Kwyjibo. 22 points... plus 50 points for using all my letters! Game's over, I'm outta here... <Homer> Wait a minute, you little cheater -- you're not going anywhere until you tell me what a Kwyjibo is! <Bart> Kwyjibo? Uh... a big, dumb, balding, North American ape with no chin... <Marge> And a short temper! <Homer> Why you little!! |
| 07:42.24 | drmessano | No obnauticus, i don't |
| 07:42.31 | drmessano | ~free |
| 07:42.32 | jbot | from memory, free is stuff might take awhile to get done |
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| 07:42.44 | drmessano | ~cheap |
| 07:42.45 | jbot | i heard cheap is a bad idea. If you're setting up an Asterisk system, one of the wisest pieces of advice you can take is this: DON'T BE A CHEAPSKATE. |
| 07:42.55 | obnauticus | im talking in bulk, asshole |
| 07:43.07 | obnauticus | it's going to be cheap per minutes |
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| 07:52.22 | obnauticus | drmessano i has a question |
| 07:52.36 | obnauticus | on an E1, who decides how much you pay per min |
| 07:52.37 | obnauticus | lulz. |
| 07:53.14 | mvanbaak | your mother |
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| 07:59.51 | coppice | Ask not for whome the trunk tolls. It tolls for thee. |
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| 09:05.11 | Kernel_Core | hi all |
| 09:05.11 | angryuser | tzafrir here ? |
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| 09:06.49 | Kernel_Core | what is the speex sample rate ? 20ms or 30ms ? |
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| 09:18.42 | tzafrir_home | hi |
| 09:25.29 | tzafrir_home | Kernel_Core, the default for speex is 20: |
| 09:25.33 | tzafrir_home | http://svn.digium.com/svn/asterisk/branches/1.4/doc/rtp-packetization.txt |
| 09:25.59 | Kernel_Core | tzafrir_home: thanks .... |
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| 09:27.04 | Kernel_Core | tzafrir_home: are VBR and ABR in speex VAD enabled ? |
| 09:28.02 | tzafrir_home | Kernel_Core, not sure |
| 09:28.28 | Kernel_Core | tzafrir_home: so I need to put vad= true in source ? |
| 09:28.45 | Kernel_Core | in conf file I mean |
| 09:30.06 | Kernel_Core | tzafrir_home: where do I change the rtp-packetization to 10ms for speex ? |
| 09:32.28 | tzafrir_home | Kernel_Core, sorry, don't know that much. Please refer to the docs. see the sample codecs.conf |
| 09:32.54 | tzafrir_home | and that file I referenced to earlier |
| 09:34.12 | Kernel_Core | tzafrir: if I want to use ilbc with iax2 trunking , should I change the default "trunkfreq=30" instead of 20 ? |
| 09:35.04 | Kernel_Core | because ilbc packetization occured every 30ms |
| 09:37.27 | tzafrir_home | Kernel_Core, is it between two servers of yours? |
| 09:38.35 | tzafrir_home | If so, with speex you can set it up to 60 |
| 09:38.43 | tzafrir_home | (and with others - even higher) |
| 09:38.52 | tzafrir_home | but with ilbc, you're stuck on 30 |
| 09:39.03 | Kernel_Core | yes |
| 09:39.38 | tzafrir_home | Kernel_Core, IIRC, in sip.conf: allow=speex:60 ; or something similar |
| 09:40.04 | Kernel_Core | tzafrir_home: what about in IAX.conf ? |
| 09:40.10 | Kernel_Core | speex:60 works ? |
| 09:40.39 | Kernel_Core | or allow=speex:10 ? |
| 09:41.37 | tzafrir_home | Kernel_Core, I think. Not really sure. Why don't you try? |
| 09:41.53 | tzafrir_home | (on an extra sip peer) |
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| 09:42.46 | Kernel_Core | tzafrir_home: if I use speex:10 , and set trunkfreq=10ms , does it save the same bandwidth like the diffault setting ( speex or g729 with 20ms , and trunkfreq=20ms) ? |
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| 09:43.24 | tzafrir_home | Kernel_Core, 10ms packets mean many small packets => more overhead per audio |
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| 09:43.41 | tzafrir_home | Slightly less latency, more bandwidth |
| 09:43.54 | WhipsMcGee | can someone help me with write a .call file real quick? I'm trying to dial out from a SIP line to my cell phone, I don't need it to play or connect or anything, just ring basically. |
| 09:44.37 | Kernel_Core | tzafrir_home: does IAX2 trunking helps in this case ? |
| 09:44.39 | WhipsMcGee | and I have a working call file that rings a local sip extension so it's probably just like 2-3 lines that need changing |
| 09:45.36 | tzafrir_home | Kernel_Core, IAX trunking helps if you have more than one "connection" between the two servers |
| 09:45.49 | tzafrir_home | They will use the same socket |
| 09:46.24 | Kernel_Core | tzafrir_home: I know I have 4 concurrent connection |
| 09:46.34 | Kernel_Core | tzafrir_home: it is the reason I am interested |
| 09:46.35 | tzafrir_home | So it can help |
| 09:46.41 | Kernel_Core | thanks :) |
| 09:47.05 | Kernel_Core | tzafrir_home: you saved me hours on searching and reading the missing documents :D |
| 09:49.04 | SteveTotaro | Kernel, if you have poor audio, choppy, then turn off iax trunking or switch to SIP |
| 09:49.29 | SteveTotaro | iax imo causes more problems than it fixes |
| 09:50.59 | WhipsMcGee | anyone know how to write a .call file? |
| 09:51.27 | SteveTotaro | i do and there are tons of examples on the wiki |
| 09:51.40 | SteveTotaro | or probably the book although i never read it |
| 09:51.43 | WhipsMcGee | where's the wiki |
| 09:51.46 | SteveTotaro | ~book |
| 09:51.46 | jbot | Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com, or see ~buybook |
| 09:51.52 | SteveTotaro | ~wiki |
| 09:52.09 | SteveTotaro | www.voip-info.org is the wiki |
| 09:52.13 | WhipsMcGee | I'm on there |
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| 09:52.30 | WhipsMcGee | it's got a few examples but I can't figure out exactly what it's saying |
| 09:52.53 | SteveTotaro | then did you look at the book? |
| 09:52.57 | SteveTotaro | ~book |
| 09:52.58 | jbot | Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com, or see ~buybook |
| 09:55.37 | WhipsMcGee | the book was less helpful than the wiki |
| 09:56.03 | obnauticus | CAn anyone ehre tell me the possible causes of this message |
| 09:56.03 | obnauticus | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:14.21 | obnauticus | Here's the full problem |
| 10:14.22 | obnauticus | http://pastebin.ca/933459 |
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| 11:45.43 | A500mg | hi |
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| 12:33.40 | Zone-MR | sooo... |
| 12:33.45 | Zone-MR | anyone alive yet? :P |
| 12:34.10 | Zone-MR | I'm looking for a UK sip/iax2 <> pstn trunk provider which supports RDNIS |
| 12:34.26 | Zone-MR | is there one? |
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| 15:27.05 | akira2014 | hello |
| 15:28.18 | TJNII | mornin' |
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| 15:51.05 | angryuser[A] | what do yo think abou this mobo http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon3000/3000/PDSMA+.cfm i want to install debian&asterisk anything what i should know ? |
| 15:51.40 | angryuser[A] | any problems encountered wih supermicrom mb's ? |
| 15:52.04 | bkw__ | angryuser[A]: the mother board shouldn't matter unless you're running hardware with it |
| 15:52.41 | bkw__ | angryuser[A]: you going to run any T1's? |
| 15:52.51 | angryuser[A] | <bkw__> wrong mb matter a lot, heat life cycle |
| 15:53.04 | bkw__ | angryuser[A]: I have NEVER lost one due to that |
| 15:53.24 | bkw__ | and Supermicro is a server board so it won't matter its designed for such things |
| 15:53.25 | angryuser[A] | <bkw__> i am happy for you |
| 15:53.40 | bkw__ | now if you were getting something like shuttle of gigabyte then I would worry |
| 15:54.33 | angryuser[A] | i have installed tyan yesterday when i adenn idn card, hangs/bips , removed all is ok, some hardware compatibility problems |
| 15:54.39 | angryuser[A] | ISDN* |
| 15:54.58 | angryuser[A] | so that's why i am aking |
| 15:55.17 | bkw__ | what card do you have? |
| 15:55.19 | angryuser[A] | ah damn notebook keyboard |
| 15:55.41 | angryuser[A] | i got 2 digium tdm's and one b410p |
| 15:56.03 | bkw__ | who else makes ISDN cards besides digium? |
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| 15:56.26 | angryuser[A] | sangoma |
| 15:56.33 | bkw__ | I would buy sangoma |
| 15:56.42 | bkw__ | never had these MB hardware compat. issues with sangoma |
| 15:56.56 | angryuser[A] | junghanns |
| 15:57.06 | angryuser[A] | i got it so... |
| 15:57.11 | bkw__ | thats one too |
| 15:57.40 | angryuser[A] | b410p is working fine on other mobos, thats tyan problem |
| 15:57.54 | bkw__ | actually its not |
| 15:58.22 | bkw__ | the b410p could be fixed to work correctly with any motherboard... |
| 15:58.35 | bkw__ | Sangoma actually goes and buys any MB people have problems with and MAKES their cards work with it |
| 15:58.35 | angryuser[A] | as mb |
| 15:58.55 | bkw__ | personally I hate tyan boards |
| 15:59.00 | angryuser[A] | i dont want to argue about that |
| 15:59.12 | bkw__ | I'm not. I'm just telling you what I have experienced |
| 15:59.30 | angryuser[A] | i will buy supermicro mb and we will see |
| 15:59.43 | bkw__ | I have a bunch of supermicro boards in production |
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| 15:59.51 | angryuser[A] | no pbs ' ? |
| 16:00.00 | bkw__ | pbx? |
| 16:00.06 | angryuser[A] | problems |
| 16:00.10 | bkw__ | not yet |
| 16:00.15 | coppice | all the Dell hate on the * mailing list is pretty pathetic. most of the world's cards work just fine with Dell machines |
| 16:00.19 | angryuser[A] | with asteris cads ? |
| 16:00.27 | bkw__ | angryuser[A]: yep |
| 16:00.35 | bkw__ | coppice: I can agree |
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| 16:00.41 | angryuser[A] | <<hates his keyboard |
| 16:01.41 | angryuser[A] | thank you so buing this one |
| 16:01.54 | bkw__ | angryuser[A]: having keyboard drama? |
| 16:01.56 | angryuser[A] | 300€ ;( |
| 16:02.16 | angryuser[A] | yes notebook acer, i think dont need to add more |
| 16:03.26 | bkw__ | hehe |
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| 16:38.40 | ManxPower | Alabama is NOT supposed to have snow on the grownd. |
| 16:38.48 | ManxPower | and ground |
| 16:39.30 | SwK | hah |
| 16:39.42 | SwK | ManxPower, its alomost gone here |
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| 16:52.15 | ManxPower | It's unsivilized. |
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| 16:54.43 | SteveTotaro | anyone know if all the LEDs on a tdm422p (two fxs two fxo) even if there is no power connected to the molex connector? |
| 16:54.58 | lyroy | Does someone know if there a way to query an MS Access database with asterisk? |
| 16:55.11 | SteveTotaro | odbc |
| 16:55.27 | lyroy | stevetotaro thx ill check this |
| 16:55.36 | SteveTotaro | asterisk with access = mess |
| 16:55.42 | tzafrir_home | lyroy, odbc? |
| 16:56.43 | lyroy | I know but I need to get some customer infos and they are store in a damn access database |
| 16:56.44 | SteveTotaro | access from my perspective is for mom and dad to make home spreadsheets |
| 16:57.17 | SteveTotaro | upsell them |
| 16:57.40 | lyroy | I know that.. ;) but the store application use an access database to store there customers infos - billing... |
| 16:58.29 | SteveTotaro | so are you going to do realtime stuff with it? |
| 16:58.35 | SteveTotaro | i suggest not |
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| 16:59.05 | SteveTotaro | i had a customer insist on using access to manipulate the asterisk realtime db |
| 16:59.24 | SteveTotaro | when he would move from one field to the other, the changes were instantaneous |
| 16:59.42 | SteveTotaro | needless to say, it crashed and burned within an hour or two |
| 17:00.32 | SteveTotaro | this was after me pleading that he not do it that way |
| 17:00.56 | SteveTotaro | but he was a semi tech guy and thought he knew better |
| 17:03.30 | tzafrir_home | There's a linux library to read access db (libmdb?) |
| 17:04.31 | SteveTotaro | not ranting, just giving a valuable life story |
| 17:04.44 | SteveTotaro | take what you need and leave the rest |
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| 17:09.40 | ManxPower | lyroy: does the access to the database be live, or can the store application export it's data once per day or something like that? |
| 17:10.21 | lyroy | no it need to be live... here's an example... |
| 17:11.13 | lyroy | the customer need to know if his order is ready.. then he enter is order # in an IVR... and then the ivr will say if it is ready or not base on the access database |
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| 17:12.27 | lyroy | or... let's say we need to make a queue priority base on the customer previous "buy history" if he is a good client we will put a high priority on the queue... |
| 17:12.31 | kamanashisroy | it seems that ast_waitstream is blocking .. is there anyway to interrupt that ? |
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| 17:13.14 | A500mg | hi |
| 17:13.28 | lyroy | I know I can do it pretty easily with SQL database but with an access database that can be a mess... |
| 17:15.16 | lyroy | well I think I need to do some tests to know if it is possible to implement something like this with an access database... |
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| 17:15.33 | SteveTotaro | it is |
| 17:15.51 | SteveTotaro | i have seen it first hand |
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| 17:16.43 | lyroy | you suggest I use ODBC? is it the only way to parse infos from an access database? |
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| 17:19.07 | A500mg | mmh |
| 17:19.36 | SteveTotaro | i hear the blue letters on the side of 7000 security blvd are gone |
| 17:20.37 | A500mg | i am searching how to change de tone frequency of my b410p. When callers calls me, the sound is "tuuu...tuuu...tuuu.." instead of "touuuu...touuu...touuu" |
| 17:21.17 | SteveTotaro | loadzone |
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| 17:21.36 | A500mg | i've seen that, but nothing change :( |
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| 17:22.44 | A500mg | b410p use misdn, but I don't know if zaptel parameters have an effect or no |
| 17:27.24 | SteveTotaro | /etc/asterisk/indications.conf? |
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| 17:28.54 | A500mg | tried also |
| 17:29.38 | SteveTotaro | that's all i got |
| 17:29.52 | SteveTotaro | i guess you could record the type of ringing you want |
| 17:29.59 | SteveTotaro | and use that as moh |
| 17:30.38 | A500mg | mmmh in last possibility |
| 17:30.54 | A500mg | strange, in indications.conf i've not change the value |
| 17:31.08 | A500mg | i changed that but maybe not save changes :/ |
| 17:31.14 | SteveTotaro | well change it and reload |
| 17:31.23 | A500mg | :) |
| 17:31.28 | SteveTotaro | change it to something totally different |
| 17:31.32 | SteveTotaro | just to test |
| 17:33.50 | A500mg | i've just test |
| 17:33.53 | A500mg | same tone :( |
| 17:34.56 | SteveTotaro | moh it is! |
| 17:35.08 | SteveTotaro | answer() |
| 17:35.19 | A500mg | it's bad :/ |
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| 17:35.42 | SteveTotaro | not really, it should be a fine workaround if no other solution exists |
| 17:35.50 | A500mg | with a tdm01b at home, good tone, but at work with b410p, bad tone :( |
| 17:36.17 | SteveTotaro | is this before answer? |
| 17:36.22 | A500mg | yes |
| 17:36.33 | SteveTotaro | if so then it is the telco generating the ring sound |
| 17:36.36 | A500mg | i look the call in CLI, but no answer |
| 17:36.39 | A500mg | oooh ok |
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| 17:36.54 | SteveTotaro | if you answer then indications should work |
| 17:37.00 | A500mg | okkk |
| 17:37.16 | A500mg | the misdn driver don't generate the tone ? |
| 17:37.18 | SteveTotaro | but caller will be billed obviously |
| 17:37.52 | A500mg | yes it is a problem |
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| 17:38.24 | FinboySlick | Quick question here: What version of zaptel would be best (less bad?) for fax detection? I know it's not supposed to be a 'supported' feature, but it'd really be nice for us to get it working. |
| 17:38.27 | SteveTotaro | solutions, call the phone company and tell them to change the ring which they probably cannot/wont do |
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| 17:38.37 | SteveTotaro | answer the call and play the tones you want |
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| 17:38.45 | SteveTotaro | deal with it the way it is |
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| 17:38.50 | A500mg | ok :) |
| 17:39.32 | FinboySlick | I'm using 1.2.24 right now, itching to upgrade to 1.4 |
| 17:40.13 | SteveTotaro | are there features you want in 1.4? |
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| 17:40.39 | FinboySlick | SteveTotaro: See my previous question ;) I want fax detect to work. |
| 17:41.14 | SteveTotaro | just get a did for fax or use www.trustfax.com or whatever service you like |
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| 17:42.31 | SteveTotaro | i pay $20/yr with trustfax and get a tollfree fax number, i dont send or receive much so it is a perfect solution |
| 17:43.05 | SteveTotaro | looks good to have a tollfree fax number too |
| 17:43.51 | FinboySlick | SteveTotaro: It's definitely an easy solution. But, if you can find a way to tickle the idealist residing deep within each of us, wouldn't it be great if it just worked with Zaptel? |
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| 17:44.51 | SteveTotaro | it does, you get a did, use iaxmodem and hylafax |
| 17:45.20 | SteveTotaro | i have done that many times for large scale operations |
| 17:45.48 | FinboySlick | Well, it works for me too, it'll detect roughly one in six or seven fax machines. |
| 17:46.15 | SteveTotaro | then upgrade to 1.4 |
| 17:46.25 | SteveTotaro | not sure how much better detection will be |
| 17:46.38 | SteveTotaro | they have to beep within your wait time |
| 17:46.57 | SteveTotaro | and it has to be clear and in the correct frequency |
| 17:49.43 | FinboySlick | SteveTotaro: Yeah. I'm just surprised by how easy your typical hadrware fax or modem will detect that beep as opposed to an expensive zaptel card. I guess I'd like to understand what's causing the difficulty. |
| 17:49.58 | bkw__ | faxdetect in 1.2 works fine |
| 17:50.05 | bkw__ | I use it 1000's of times a day |
| 17:50.23 | FinboySlick | bkw__: What's your hardware? |
| 17:50.33 | bkw__ | as in? |
| 17:51.11 | FinboySlick | As in TDM800 or what not. |
| 17:51.18 | bkw__ | T1 board |
| 17:51.19 | SteveTotaro | x100p |
| 17:51.49 | bkw__ | bbl |
| 17:52.11 | FinboySlick | Maybe my card's just a little deaf :( |
| 17:52.20 | ManxPower | What exactly is your PROBLEM with faxdetect?? |
| 17:52.20 | SteveTotaro | rxgain |
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| 17:52.34 | SteveTotaro | it doesn't detect silly |
| 17:53.24 | FinboySlick | ManxPower: It is very very picky of what fax machine has a pretty enough voice to activate it. |
| 17:53.35 | ManxPower | FinboySlick: fax problems in an all zap setup are almost always audio level gains. Many times you have to lower the gains to much to get rid of echo that it makes faxes not work, but that's not a fax DETECT issue, that's a FAX issue. |
| 17:54.08 | ManxPower | FinboySlick: I use NVFaxdetect, NOT because it works better, but because I can enable or disable it on the fly, which you can't do in the zaptel faxdetect. |
| 17:54.10 | SteveTotaro | no, it is a zaptel rxgain issue |
| 17:54.27 | ManxPower | FinboySlick: what is your rxgain and txgain set to? |
| 17:55.12 | SteveTotaro | you cannot begin to judge what his setting should be |
| 17:55.23 | SteveTotaro | every site varies so much |
| 17:55.24 | ManxPower | SteveTotaro: it should be 0 to start out with |
| 17:55.31 | ManxPower | then work from that |
| 17:55.37 | SteveTotaro | of course |
| 17:56.05 | lunaphyte | is it possible to get asterisk to tell me, in the logs when it's complaining, which line of which file? |
| 17:56.15 | lunaphyte | e.g. WARNING[11256]: app_dial.c:864 dial_exec_full: Dial requires an argument (technology/number) |
| 17:56.16 | ManxPower | We have the fewest fax issues (almost no fax issues, actually) if we leave the gains at 0 and use an external echo canceler. We use PRIs |
| 17:56.23 | FinboySlick | ManxPower: Right now it's at 1.5 I also tried 0. and maybe as high as 2, but I'll grant you that I didn't put all that much effort into it. |
| 17:56.23 | ManxPower | lunaphyte: paste the line before that |
| 17:56.26 | A500mg | SteveTotaro, for my tone problem, effectively it's good when I answer() before dial() |
| 17:56.44 | A500mg | I will call my telephony provider |
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| 17:58.40 | lunaphyte | ManxPower: that's the only line. |
| 17:58.55 | SteveTotaro | a500mg: call your provider but i doubt they can or will change ring for just you |
| 17:58.57 | the_5th_wheel | I am unable to connect to my asterisk server remotely, the firewall is not blocking aything, but still, none of my phones register with the asterisk server. I can connect to my other sip servers, so my connection is fine |
| 17:59.17 | ManxPower | lunaphyte: then you have either a problem with /etc/asterisk/logger.conf or you are not starting asterisk with enough v |
| 17:59.27 | ManxPower | "core set verbose 3" and try it again |
| 17:59.46 | *** join/#asterisk pa (n=pa@unaffiliated/pa) |
| 17:59.52 | SteveTotaro | wheel, are you sure asterisk is running, is sip running, are you behind a nat? |
| 18:00.12 | SteveTotaro | i like set verbose 3 |
| 18:00.17 | lunaphyte | ah, that's better. i had done core set debug 10. |
| 18:00.37 | the_5th_wheel | asterisk is definitely running(i have about 12 active calls coming in) and the server is not behind nat |
| 18:00.45 | ManxPower | lunaphyte: debug spits out too much into to be useful except in the most extreme cases |
| 18:01.05 | SteveTotaro | is sip loaded, bound to the correct port? |
| 18:01.12 | SteveTotaro | ip? |
| 18:01.15 | *** join/#asterisk implicit (n=implicit@ip68-105-92-210.sd.sd.cox.net) |
| 18:01.40 | FinboySlick | ManxPower: I'm curious though, you mentioned an external echo canceller. You mean between the PSTN and an FXO? |
| 18:01.46 | SteveTotaro | you say you cannot connect, does that mean at all, no ssh? |
| 18:02.05 | ManxPower | FinboySlick: I don't ever use analog. Between the Telco PRI and the Sangoma T-1 card. |
| 18:02.06 | lunaphyte | ManxPower: yeah, i thought i'd get overwhelmed, so i was surprised to see the one sole line. |
| 18:02.12 | lunaphyte | http://rafb.net/p/Y311Vn99.html |
| 18:02.50 | ManxPower | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:02.59 | ManxPower | that means the Dial string is empty |
| 18:03.38 | lunaphyte | did variables change from 1.2 to 1.4? http://rafb.net/p/Iwelne68.html |
| 18:03.41 | FinboySlick | ManxPower: Oh... Well, yeah, I'd love to scrap the whole analog deal but I live in remote nowhereland... A T1 costs us more than I make in a month :P |
| 18:03.52 | SteveTotaro | -- Executing [3607171338@remote:2] Dial("SIP/66.54.140.46-081d0848", "911") |
| 18:03.58 | ManxPower | lunaphyte: YES! Didn't you read upgrade.txt and channelvariables.txt |
| 18:04.17 | SteveTotaro | my Ts cost $150/mo each |
| 18:04.19 | lunaphyte | no sir. i'll do that. |
| 18:04.30 | ManxPower | FinboySlick: look at the Digium commercial software EC. It sucks up LOTS of CPU, but on a decent machine and a small number of channels it can work well. |
| 18:04.35 | the_5th_wheel | SteveTotaro: it seems so |
| 18:04.57 | SteveTotaro | what seems so, you cannot ssh? |
| 18:05.08 | SteveTotaro | then you have a bigger networking issue |
| 18:05.08 | lunaphyte | ManxPower: packages are nice, but it's easy to overlook things like that. ;) thanks for the pointer. |
| 18:05.18 | ManxPower | we hate packages |
| 18:05.26 | SteveTotaro | i have a nice package |
| 18:05.26 | FinboySlick | ManxPower: Well, I have a hardware echo-cancelling card that works quite well. I was just wondering if that was related to my fax troubles. |
| 18:05.35 | lunaphyte | yeah, every project's channel does. |
| 18:05.53 | *** join/#asterisk Hymie (i=hymie@l8r.net) |
| 18:06.18 | Hymie | hey guys, anyone playing with one of those siemens S675IP phones? or other cool cordless IP phones? |
| 18:06.26 | the_5th_wheel | SteveTotaro: I can ssh and connect to the box perfectly. |
| 18:06.51 | Cresl1n | FinboySlick: it could cause problems |
| 18:06.53 | SteveTotaro | so connect to the console, turn on sip debugging and try to register a phone |
| 18:07.11 | lunaphyte | i've just started using 1.4, i've already been relearned on a bunch of commands.. "x will be deprecated, use y..." :) |
| 18:07.21 | Cresl1n | you're having problems with faxes? |
| 18:07.29 | SteveTotaro | ~fax |
| 18:07.29 | jbot | Well, apperantly the fax was concieved of by Napoleon Bonaparte. He commissioned a system of devices that could transmit a traced image electrically over telegraph lines to a remote device that would redraw the image identically. |
| 18:07.51 | lunaphyte | no way. is that true? |
| 18:07.56 | SteveTotaro | you don't have to relearn command until 1.6 |
| 18:07.57 | lunaphyte | napoleon? |
| 18:08.05 | SteveTotaro | that should be stable in a few years |
| 18:08.13 | lunaphyte | that's when deprecation takes effect? |
| 18:08.26 | SteveTotaro | i stink so, yes |
| 18:08.26 | lunaphyte | err, removal, whatever. |
| 18:08.30 | Hymie | lunaphyte: then, or after a sharp whiskey |
| 18:08.34 | FinboySlick | Cresl1n: Well, according to Digium, when zaptel detects a fax call, it disables the hardware echo canceller (this is a TDM800) My problem is getting to the fax detecting part. It works once every now and then, with some fax machines. |
| 18:08.40 | lunaphyte | well, might as well learn it now. |
| 18:08.51 | Cresl1n | FinboySlick: which kind of echo canceller do you have? |
| 18:09.15 | FinboySlick | Cresl1n: Um, let me look it up, it's whatever's built into the card.... |
| 18:09.22 | SteveTotaro | learn it but use the old versions, thats what i do |
| 18:09.30 | Cresl1n | FinboySlick: and what version of zaptel are you running? |
| 18:09.37 | SteveTotaro | i see and support far more 1.2 boxen than i do 1.4 |
| 18:09.46 | SteveTotaro | and the command work on both |
| 18:10.11 | FinboySlick | Cresl1n: 1.2.4, but I've had that problem since I started with 1.2.18. |
| 18:10.31 | Cresl1n | 1.2.4? |
| 18:10.34 | *** join/#asterisk axisys (n=axisys@ip70-174-179-120.dc.dc.cox.net) |
| 18:10.52 | Hymie | hey. what's with that bot lying about napoleon |
| 18:11.00 | SteveTotaro | how many faxes are we talking you have one fxo? |
| 18:11.04 | FinboySlick | Cresl1n: 1.2.24, sorry. |
| 18:11.06 | *** join/#asterisk RypPn (i=TuMbL@rosscom.demon.co.uk) |
| 18:11.10 | Cresl1n | Ok |
| 18:11.11 | Hymie | he just commissioned some guy to work on it, after that guy already had the idea, and claimed to have a working prototype |
| 18:11.16 | SteveTotaro | what is the point? just get a trustfax account |
| 18:11.22 | Hymie | freaking nobles always try to take credit for everything |
| 18:11.25 | Hymie | (I'm not joking) |
| 18:11.47 | SteveTotaro | ~jbot |
| 18:11.47 | jbot | [jbot] a hack!, or known to have only said one useful thing. a tool, or dating the fembots, or [TK]D-Fender's b*tch, or suck, or a pain in the ass |
| 18:12.33 | the_5th_wheel | SteveTotaro: ok, it seems that my phone is sending sip messages, and asterisk is receiving them, but my pphone aint receiving the replies |
| 18:13.02 | Cresl1n | FinboySlick: how are you hooked up with the fax machine to the incoming fax? |
| 18:13.09 | SteveTotaro | sounds like nat or firewall |
| 18:13.12 | Cresl1n | like is it FXO->FXS on the TDM800, or what? |
| 18:13.52 | the_5th_wheel | SteveTotaro: on the server or on the client side? |
| 18:14.18 | FinboySlick | Cresl1n: fax <-> pstn <-> fxo |
| 18:14.34 | Cresl1n | FinboySlick: didn't quite understand that |
| 18:14.38 | Cresl1n | what ports does it go through |
| 18:14.42 | SteveTotaro | what ip does the asterisk box say the requests are coming from, that might give you a clue |
| 18:15.40 | FinboySlick | Cresl1n: I'm receiving fax calls through the PSTN into an fxo on the card. There's no fax machine on my end of things. |
| 18:15.46 | SteveTotaro | if you can register the same phone to the other box you mentioned that is working then it must be on the new asterisk server side |
| 18:15.54 | SteveTotaro | if you cannot, then it has to be on the phone side |
| 18:15.57 | Cresl1n | FinboySlick: oh, so you're using spandsp or something like that? |
| 18:16.11 | the_5th_wheel | SteveTotaro: its different from the one im connecting to. how can i change the connection from IP? |
| 18:16.14 | *** part/#asterisk Hymie (i=hymie@l8r.net) |
| 18:16.40 | SteveTotaro | you have to give more details |
| 18:16.52 | SteveTotaro | it is showing the public ip of a nat? |
| 18:17.02 | FinboySlick | Cresl1n: Yes. Though I don't know just how well that works since I still am working on making those calls *get* to spandsp ;) |
| 18:17.05 | the_5th_wheel | SteveTotaro: I have two live IPs on the box |
| 18:17.11 | Cresl1n | FinboySlick: Ok |
| 18:17.30 | SteveTotaro | two ips on the same subnet? |
| 18:17.36 | SteveTotaro | that is a problem |
| 18:17.48 | SteveTotaro | asterisk will send from one and receive from the other |
| 18:17.51 | the_5th_wheel | SteveTotaro: no. sepereate subnests |
| 18:18.23 | SteveTotaro | be more specific pleas |
| 18:18.25 | SteveTotaro | e |
| 18:18.42 | Cresl1n | you definitely need to make sure you're running current 1.2 |
| 18:19.06 | Cresl1n | there was a bug a release or two ago for the VPMADT032 where it wasn't configured to detect fax tones |
| 18:19.09 | SteveTotaro | (01:13:27 PM) the_5th_wheel: SteveTotaro: its different from the one im connecting to. how can i change the connection from IP? |
| 18:19.11 | Cresl1n | now it should work I think |
| 18:19.16 | SteveTotaro | that is too vague |
| 18:19.20 | Cresl1n | or rather g.165 tones |
| 18:20.43 | FinboySlick | Cresl1n: What's 'current'. 1.2.24 is the latest my distro offers, but I can look into building from source if that fixes my problem. |
| 18:21.08 | the_5th_wheel | SteveTotaro: I have two IP,s one is in the 41.223.x.x range and the other is 196.15.x.x range |
| 18:21.09 | Cresl1n | nah, I think it's in the most current release |
| 18:21.17 | Cresl1n | I believe 1.2.24 should be current |
| 18:21.55 | *** join/#asterisk CrashSys (n=kumba@62-209.187-72.tampabay.res.rr.com) |
| 18:22.03 | drmessano | OMG I had a effin nightmare about Asterisk |
| 18:22.11 | Cresl1n | yeah, that should be good |
| 18:22.14 | SteveTotaro | so sip might be bound to the wrong ip |
| 18:22.19 | CrashSys | Was the extensions.conf chasing you down? |
| 18:22.24 | *** join/#asterisk d00gster (n=doughant@bas1-toronto44-1177789678.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 18:22.34 | the_5th_wheel | I think ive found my problem. i changed the default route, and that is on the latter range |
| 18:22.38 | Cresl1n | FinboySlick: which part of faxing isn't working right for you? |
| 18:22.52 | drmessano | I wasn't paying attention and I did ran a Yum update that installed an RPM from somewhere of 1.4.15 over my 1.4.18 |
| 18:22.52 | SteveTotaro | anyways, i have a big dinner tonight and need a haircut so maybe DRM can help you wheel |
| 18:22.56 | drmessano | and I freaked out |
| 18:23.20 | SteveTotaro | yum update would not allow that unless you forced the rpm |
| 18:23.25 | drmessano | All I remember is going "Oh shit", freaking out, and then I woke up |
| 18:23.30 | drmessano | Dude, I know |
| 18:23.37 | SteveTotaro | but you need to unplug man, get some r&r |
| 18:23.46 | drmessano | I freaked out because I didnt know what happened |
| 18:23.49 | drmessano | lol |
| 18:23.53 | drmessano | wow |
| 18:23.58 | SteveTotaro | quote from what movie? |
| 18:24.26 | drmessano | Matrix |
| 18:24.40 | SteveTotaro | did you google it, took you a bit? |
| 18:24.40 | drmessano | I vaguely remember it |
| 18:24.44 | drmessano | no |
| 18:24.58 | FinboySlick | Cresl1n: Remote fax dials in, asterisk picks up, fax says 'beep beep beep', zaptel says 'huh'? Basically. It understands phone tones quite well (no missed digits or anything), but it only hears fax beeps once in a blue moon. |
| 18:24.59 | drmessano | Checking email too.. or trying to |
| 18:25.01 | SteveTotaro | that white bunny girl was hot |
| 18:25.05 | the_5th_wheel | SteveTotaro: i think my issue is sorted. thanks for the help :-D |
| 18:25.13 | SteveTotaro | what was it? |
| 18:25.21 | ManxPower | FinboySlick: do you have a dedicated fax number? |
| 18:25.27 | *** join/#asterisk MatBoy (n=MatBoy@wiljewelwetenhe.xs4all.nl) |
| 18:25.32 | Cresl1n | hrm |
| 18:25.34 | SteveTotaro | he has a single pots line |
| 18:25.50 | ManxPower | poor guy |
| 18:26.06 | SteveTotaro | that's why i just suggested www.trustfax.com |
| 18:26.09 | SteveTotaro | or efax |
| 18:26.27 | SteveTotaro | why bother in that situation? |
| 18:27.12 | the_5th_wheel | SteveTotaro: i set the default route as the router ip in my secondary range. |
| 18:27.19 | the_5th_wheel | changed it back and it was working |
| 18:27.38 | SteveTotaro | ah, that would be a problem, glad i helped someone today :) |
| 18:28.08 | FinboySlick | SteveTotaro: Well, like I said before, we don't get enough fax calls to bother with the alternatives either. I just want it to work because it *should*. |
| 18:28.19 | FinboySlick | <-- idealist |
| 18:28.39 | Cresl1n | So it's not detecting fax tones then.... that's the problem? |
| 18:28.46 | drmessano | "should" is not the correct word |
| 18:29.05 | drmessano | You're assuming Fax is supposed to work all the time |
| 18:29.06 | SteveTotaro | i wonder if you can you get a second number on a pots line and use distinctive ringing to know which is fax or voice? |
| 18:29.25 | drmessano | ... and a ring separator |
| 18:29.31 | drmessano | People do it |
| 18:29.54 | drmessano | $70 the last time I bought one |
| 18:29.57 | SteveTotaro | can asterisk tell different rings? |
| 18:30.09 | FinboySlick | SteveTotaro: It can, that's an easy alternative too. |
| 18:30.25 | SteveTotaro | that shouldn't cost you much |
| 18:30.41 | drmessano | Dunno.. I think a $70 ring separator and a Fax machine is a much better answer |
| 18:30.46 | FinboySlick | Cresl1n: Yes. Well, it is detecting about 1 in 10 fax machines I've tried. |
| 18:30.51 | Cresl1n | ok |
| 18:30.52 | drmessano | Hell, I bet they're cheaper now |
| 18:30.59 | SteveTotaro | ebay |
| 18:31.07 | Cresl1n | are you doing anything special for detection, like using NVFaxDetect? |
| 18:31.29 | FinboySlick | Cresl1n: I gave that a try, but it didn't work either. |
| 18:31.32 | SteveTotaro | he doesn't want a fax machine he wants asterisk to handle the fax or maybe hylafax |
| 18:31.43 | *** join/#asterisk MatBoy (n=MatBoy@wiljewelwetenhe.xs4all.nl) |
| 18:32.03 | SteveTotaro | up your rxgain |
| 18:32.07 | SteveTotaro | and keep testing |
| 18:32.12 | FinboySlick | Cresl1n: I guess that points once again to a ... Well, what SteveTotaro says ;) |
| 18:32.44 | drmessano | I know he does.. but there's other options that are less.... flaky |
| 18:33.00 | Cresl1n | crap, maybe it's the DSP not detecting it well enough |
| 18:33.50 | FinboySlick | I guess I'm just having a hard time convincing myself that a fax 'beep' is several orders of magnitude more complicated to understand than a digit 4 beep. |
| 18:33.56 | SteveTotaro | dsp is on the cpu |
| 18:34.06 | SteveTotaro | that is why the cards are so cheap |
| 18:34.32 | FinboySlick | SteveTotaro: My card wasn't really cheap :P |
| 18:35.10 | file | SteveTotaro can tell you what cards for other PBXes really cost... |
| 18:35.24 | drmessano | yeah |
| 18:35.27 | SteveTotaro | yup |
| 18:35.28 | the_5th_wheel | Ok, now i have asecond server, that is ntted, how could i set the from address on that? |
| 18:35.47 | drmessano | $2000 for an auto attendant on a NEC Electra Elite... |
| 18:36.04 | drmessano | Asterisk $0 |
| 18:36.17 | SteveTotaro | ~$3k-$4k for a single T1 on the NEC |
| 18:36.22 | drmessano | yep |
| 18:36.36 | FinboySlick | Okay okay, I get the point ;) |
| 18:36.45 | SteveTotaro | conference bridge ~$5k |
| 18:38.02 | *** join/#asterisk nirz (n=nir@89-138-73-246.bb.netvision.net.il) |
| 18:38.19 | SteveTotaro | makes no sense to buy asterisk stuff off of ebay unless it is for play |
| 18:38.36 | SteveTotaro | but proprietary systems, sometimes it makes alot of sense |
| 18:38.59 | *** join/#asterisk robmac67 (n=robmacle@82-35-181-109.cable.ubr03.croy.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 18:39.01 | CrashSys | I like buying $2000 A104d's off of ebay for $1000 or less |
| 18:39.18 | FinboySlick | Still, besides the actual frequency, how is a fax beep different from a digit tone? |
| 18:39.40 | CrashSys | I dont think a fax beep is DTMF |
| 18:40.00 | tzafrir_home | FinboySlick, a fax beep is a single tone, IIRC |
| 18:40.04 | drmessano | it is |
| 18:40.18 | CrashSys | picking a single tone is harder then discerning two tones |
| 18:40.23 | CrashSys | which is why they use DTMF |
| 18:40.35 | tzafrir_home | hoome, the "fax tone" is actually the medems negotioation |
| 18:40.46 | tzafrir_home | not anything to do with DTMFs |
| 18:41.10 | FinboySlick | See, that makes me understand a lot better ;) |
| 18:41.41 | tzafrir_home | there is also a specific tone a fax emits right before starting, to signal that it is a fax and should be treated as such |
| 18:41.51 | tzafrir_home | (e.g: no echo cancelling and such) |
| 18:42.00 | tzafrir_home | that is a short, single tone |
| 18:42.30 | FinboySlick | tzafrir_home: Well, that's what zaptel should be detecting, no? |
| 18:42.50 | Cresl1n | well, the asterisk dsp should be detecting IIRC |
| 18:43.20 | drmessano | WOOOOW |
| 18:43.22 | drmessano | http://www.commandcommunications.com/comswitch3.php |
| 18:43.25 | CrashSys | The fax notify tone, which is the short single beeps... |
| 18:43.28 | drmessano | $59 for the latest one |
| 18:43.29 | tzafrir_home | But also Zaptel |
| 18:43.36 | drmessano | Direct from them anyway |
| 18:43.43 | *** part/#asterisk Nasra (n=maxshipp@CPE001217b1920e-CM00111ade9528.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 18:44.00 | CrashSys | Fax detection in Asterisk is just "questionable"... better off buying a stick and setting it up to do fax routing... |
| 18:44.21 | SteveTotaro | distinctive ring |
| 18:44.29 | *** join/#asterisk cowmix (n=mmarch@ip68-228-222-163.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 18:44.50 | *** join/#asterisk Nasra (n=maxshipp@CPE001217b1920e-CM00111ade9528.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 18:45.06 | drmessano | Distinctive ring is the better idea |
| 18:45.11 | drmessano | If the passthru works |
| 18:45.17 | tzafrir_home | CrashSys, I know at least one person whose voice has the right frequency to trigger fax detectors |
| 18:45.33 | FinboySlick | CrashSys: Yeah, I know. Still would be cool if it worked and all. |
| 18:46.53 | CrashSys | Wow, tek-tips has an asterisk board... |
| 18:47.06 | CrashSys | i'm going to have to dig in here and see what kind of consultants I can find |
| 18:47.33 | SteveTotaro | tek-tips has saved my a$$ so many times |
| 18:48.36 | Cresl1n | tzafrir_home: I think that the detection in Zaptel is for the G.165 EC disable tone, not the CNG fax alert tone detection |
| 18:48.47 | Cresl1n | although I'm looking at it right now to remember |
| 18:49.21 | *** join/#asterisk RoyK (n=roy@ti211310a080-5579.bb.online.no) |
| 18:52.02 | *** join/#asterisk ccvp (n=axe@user-24-214-126-81.knology.net) |
| 18:52.33 | CrashSys | Looks like there's some Asterisk 2.2.3 consultants on tek-tips |
| 18:52.48 | drmessano | 2.2.3 ? |
| 18:52.56 | CrashSys | Trixbox |
| 18:53.10 | drmessano | Trixbox consultant.. scary |
| 18:53.25 | ccvp | heh |
| 18:53.27 | drmessano | But hey, if there's a market for it |
| 18:53.40 | ccvp | trixbox doesnt even work on dell |
| 18:53.42 | ccvp | optiplexes |
| 18:53.42 | robmac67 | guaranteed repeat business everytime trixbox release an upgrade :-) |
| 18:53.43 | CrashSys | Trying to find people here in tampa to do some asterisk work and keep seeing "Asterisk 2.2.3" on the resume's |
| 18:53.50 | drmessano | ccvp: worked on mine |
| 18:53.51 | ccvp | some Piix driver on bootup |
| 18:53.57 | ccvp | atm_pix or something forget the name |
| 18:54.10 | CrashSys | Dont use dell's... they like to burn up TDM cards... |
| 18:54.10 | drmessano | I had it working on an Optiplex |
| 18:54.27 | drmessano | Two of them actually |
| 18:54.31 | CrashSys | PCI and PCIe... |
| 18:54.39 | CrashSys | Digium and Sangoma... |
| 18:54.56 | ccvp | im taking a 2950 poweredge home this friday, quad xeon, 4gig ram, 3 73gb 15k RPM sas drives |
| 18:55.03 | ccvp | work sold it to me for like 75% off :))))) |
| 18:55.10 | ccvp | gonan finally get my hands wet in this thing we call "asterisk" heh |
| 18:55.20 | CrashSys | Plus they are just kind of shady hardware altogether... A dell warranty is not a quality warranty... it's a replacement warranty... |
| 18:55.23 | SteveTotaro | dell servers are good for just sip |
| 18:55.31 | drmessano | yeah |
| 18:55.34 | SteveTotaro | i like HP and then IBM |
| 18:55.43 | SteveTotaro | dell comes in 3rd |
| 18:55.49 | ccvp | totaro, theres 20MB burstable metro-e |
| 18:55.50 | drmessano | HP is ok.. Still feels like rebranded Compaq crap |
| 18:55.51 | ccvp | where I live |
| 18:55.53 | CrashSys | Supermicro :) |
| 18:56.08 | CrashSys | IBM is good stuff |
| 18:56.09 | drmessano | I really think HP bought Compaq just to learn how to make cheap shit hardware |
| 18:56.14 | SteveTotaro | never messed with supermicro although always hear good things |
| 18:56.27 | drmessano | and to get the patent on the green retainer clips |
| 18:57.12 | SteveTotaro | HP servers are still solid |
| 18:57.16 | FinboySlick | Tyan served us pretty well so far. |
| 18:57.17 | SteveTotaro | it is the laptops |
| 18:57.24 | SteveTotaro | and desktops that suck |
| 18:57.25 | drmessano | Laptops and desktops both |
| 18:57.28 | drmessano | The servers, yes |
| 18:57.34 | CrashSys | I'm a big asus fan |
| 18:57.42 | ccvp | steve, it'll get the job done, but I could of utilized a grid host for 20/month |
| 18:57.49 | ccvp | but I want the actual hosting in my apartment |
| 18:57.59 | SteveTotaro | sure, lets all go SGI |
| 18:58.00 | ccvp | Just heard about grid hosting after reading a good article in inc. magazine |
| 18:58.03 | SteveTotaro | and numa link |
| 18:58.06 | ccvp | mediatemple.net |
| 18:58.16 | CrashSys | 2950's are power-hungry for what they are |
| 18:58.22 | ccvp | well their going in my basement |
| 18:58.40 | ccvp | already have the hvac work lined up to the basement, ij ust have to calculate what kind of APC equipment i need |
| 18:58.53 | ccvp | basement room is 9'x9' |
| 18:58.56 | CrashSys | ccvp: ABout twice the size of what you SHOULD need :D |
| 18:58.58 | ccvp | it will ehat up fast |
| 18:59.01 | ccvp | heat |
| 18:59.29 | ccvp | check those services they offer at www.mediatemple.net |
| 18:59.32 | ccvp | is that market hype fraud? |
| 18:59.38 | *** join/#asterisk SwK (n=SwK@user-24-214-55-149.knology.net) |
| 18:59.48 | ccvp | clustered grid computing, scalable so you never crash due to visitors maxing out your box/bw |
| 19:00.14 | ManxPower | just remember the more it cycles on and off the less efficient it will be |
| 19:00.50 | ccvp | that site uses a heavily modified joomla template |
| 19:00.51 | drmessano | Yep.. the risk of buying too much HVAC |
| 19:03.04 | ccvp | http://www.mediatemple.net/webhosting/gs/ |
| 19:03.19 | ccvp | Dynamic, clustered scalability |
| 19:03.19 | ccvp | Automatically grows to support any load level. Easily handle traffic spikes with the power of hundreds of servers powering your site. |
| 19:03.23 | ccvp | for only 20/mo |
| 19:03.25 | ccvp | somethings fishy |
| 19:04.22 | drmessano | Maybe someone in #webhosting can help you |
| 19:05.04 | CrashSys | Can you sell the dell for $2k and then build and then buy a super-micro box? |
| 19:05.10 | ccvp | since the room is obviously asleep any talk is better then staring at a blank screen |
| 19:05.13 | CrashSys | require half the cooling and power :) |
| 19:05.21 | ccvp | but i guess that is the norm in here on weekends |
| 19:05.23 | CrashSys | higher quality componenets |
| 19:05.31 | ccvp | drooling, and staring at irc when no one is chatting. |
| 19:05.47 | ccvp | crash, I already have a 42U cage in my basement |
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| 19:06.16 | drmessano | cvp: You drool and stare at IRC? |
| 19:06.18 | CrashSys | THat's not really related to what I said but ok... |
| 19:06.19 | drmessano | err |
| 19:06.22 | drmessano | ccvp rather |
| 19:06.34 | ccvp | it aint going anywhere, it's what i used to get the vp |
| 19:07.12 | puzzled | hi |
| 19:07.16 | ccvp | hello puzzled |
| 19:07.25 | ccvp | are you looking forward to another long & glorious weekend of internet use in netherlands today? :) |
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| 19:08.16 | puzzled | ccvp: long probably, glorious no. I'll call it glorious the day my evil telco overlord delivers 1GB/1GB fiber to my home :) |
| 19:08.47 | puzzled | tzafrir: in your * debs do you have a patch for sangoma drivers? |
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| 19:09.23 | ccvp | puzzled, you seem as confused as my boss does |
| 19:09.30 | ccvp | he wasted $115 on a 4port zapotel card |
| 19:09.30 | ccvp | lol |
| 19:09.38 | ccvp | pci |
| 19:09.46 | CrashSys | Must be 4-port POTS |
| 19:09.54 | drmessano | So, ccvp, I still haven't figured out whether you're a future Asterisk user or a Cisco guy just trolling... |
| 19:10.04 | ccvp | its a PsyOps campaign messano |
| 19:10.12 | ccvp | my name making people think of cisco in the depths of their heart |
| 19:10.13 | ccvp | ......... |
| 19:10.15 | drmessano | My nick is drmessano |
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| 19:14.52 | ccvp | hello djs26, are you looking forward to another long & glorious weekend of internet use in netherlands today? :) |
| 19:15.13 | djs26 | heh |
| 19:15.31 | djs26 | As long as my isp doesn't disconnect me... |
| 19:15.44 | ccvp | I like how there are 234 fellow brothers in here, fellow internet addicts |
| 19:17.33 | tzafrir_home | puzzled, no |
| 19:18.09 | tzafrir_home | puzzled, it should not be required with the latest version (sangoma 3.3.1, zaptel 1.4.x), from what I heard |
| 19:18.31 | puzzled | tzafrir: nice. one patch less would be cool |
| 19:19.15 | tzafrir_home | puzzled, I also noticed that 'make clean' now fails if there are no kernel sources / headers available |
| 19:19.25 | tzafrir_home | I'm not sure why it worked before |
| 19:19.29 | puzzled | heh |
| 19:19.39 | puzzled | make clean || : |
| 19:19.54 | tzafrir_home | I know. But for a number of versions we avoided that |
| 19:21.50 | puzzled | tzafrir_home: what's the link to your asterisk cvs deb site again? like to take a look at getting oslec working again |
| 19:22.04 | tzafrir_home | svn |
| 19:22.38 | puzzled | svn works for me too :) |
| 19:22.39 | tzafrir_home | start with http://packages.debian.org/zaptel |
| 19:23.13 | puzzled | thanks |
| 19:23.37 | tzafrir_home | From there find the link to the source package: |
| 19:23.40 | tzafrir_home | http://packages.debian.org/source/sid/zaptel |
| 19:23.57 | tzafrir_home | down that page you'll find the link to the svn repo |
| 19:24.22 | puzzled | got it |
| 19:24.26 | puzzled | thanks |
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| 19:32.36 | obnauticus | Does anyone here know of a good bulk provider? |
| 19:35.39 | denon | obnauticus: define bulk |
| 19:35.45 | obnauticus | errr |
| 19:35.52 | obnauticus | >10,000min/mo |
| 19:36.02 | denon | in or out? |
| 19:36.14 | obnauticus | out |
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| 19:37.30 | denon | probably not a good candidate for our wholesale sip, until you're at about 30,000min |
| 19:38.02 | obnauticus | well, who does 30,000 then |
| 19:38.26 | denon | uh, very very small call centers |
| 19:38.34 | obnauticus | no i mean |
| 19:38.37 | obnauticus | who sells it |
| 19:39.05 | denon | are you pushing that kind of traffic today? |
| 19:39.18 | drmessano | 10,000 a month is a little more than 5x my anorexic cell phone usage |
| 19:39.25 | drmessano | Thats not even wholesale |
| 19:39.40 | obnauticus | denon im a head admin for a future voip company |
| 19:39.41 | obnauticus | so meh |
| 19:39.51 | obnauticus | we're looking at isphone and some other companies. |
| 19:42.44 | drmessano | If you have one user on the phone 6 hours a day, that's 72000 minutes a month |
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| 19:44.47 | obnauticus | Ya. |
| 19:45.35 | drmessano | Now let me ask you something |
| 19:45.40 | drmessano | "Head Admin" |
| 19:45.57 | drmessano | Does that mean "I'm one one running Asterisk on my eMachine"? |
| 19:46.13 | djs26 | heh |
| 19:48.43 | drmessano | I'll take that as a yes, for now |
| 19:48.53 | TJNII | 6 hrs/day * 60 min/hr = 360 min/day * (approx) 31 day/mo = 11,160 min/mo |
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| 19:49.43 | drmessano | Hmm.. I missed something there |
| 19:49.57 | obnauticus | Can someone tell me why the hell im getting this error |
| 19:49.57 | obnauticus | http://pastebin.ca/933459 |
| 19:50.43 | drmessano | I think I did 10 users |
| 19:50.50 | drmessano | Maybe that was it |
| 19:51.06 | drmessano | and I did 20 days |
| 19:51.10 | drmessano | 20 workdays |
| 19:51.59 | TJNII | Yea, 10 users at 6 hours per day across 20 days equals 72000 |
| 19:53.05 | drmessano | If you've got a handful of users only doing 10,000 minutes a month, you're not selling enough wicker |
| 19:54.02 | drmessano | Hmm.. You're not supposed to SIP your toast, you're supposed to CHEW it |
| 19:54.05 | drmessano | Thats problem one |
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| 19:58.49 | obnauticus | drmessano seriously ass |
| 19:58.49 | obnauticus | lol |
| 20:03.04 | djs26 | I would like to find a provider that gave me 2-3 unlimited or very high limit lines for home that is asterisk compatible, but won. Any suggestions? |
| 20:03.22 | djs26 | s/won/won't be $75/month |
| 20:04.31 | drmessano | More incoming or outgoing |
| 20:05.26 | obnauticus | djs who's the company? |
| 20:06.11 | djs26 | drmessano - Would like at least 2000 minutes each way per line per month... |
| 20:06.14 | drmessano | There is no company |
| 20:06.17 | drmessano | Hes looking for one |
| 20:07.15 | djs26 | I use voicepulse, which is pretty decent, but everything I have seen says they are not asterisk compatible, and to do 3 unlimited lines it would be $75/mo |
| 20:07.35 | obnauticus | how aren't they asterisk compadible? |
| 20:07.49 | drmessano | Per minute outbound for 6000 minutes month is gonna be at least $60 for anything I know of |
| 20:08.19 | djs26 | Hmm |
| 20:08.21 | obnauticus | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+voicepulse+connect |
| 20:08.38 | TJNII | djs26: I do about that much through broadvoice, average 1.5-2K/mo |
| 20:09.17 | djs26 | TJNII: And what does that run you? |
| 20:09.24 | djs26 | If you don't mind my asking. |
| 20:11.14 | TJNII | $I have the unlimited in state plan, so about $20 after taxes. |
| 20:11.27 | obnauticus | TJNII unlimited, any restrictions? |
| 20:11.40 | TJNII | Unlimited in state |
| 20:11.49 | drmessano | Is that one line or three? |
| 20:11.55 | TJNII | One |
| 20:11.58 | obnauticus | line == channel? |
| 20:11.58 | obnauticus | ew |
| 20:12.00 | drmessano | So $60 then for his 3 |
| 20:12.18 | TJNII | Well, I can have multiple channels open |
| 20:12.41 | TJNII | He would need to pay for more accounts if he wanted more independant phone numbers |
| 20:13.08 | djs26 | obnauticus - If I am reading that link correctly, it is $11/mo outbound + minutes spent + $7.95 inbound. That is a ripoff... |
| 20:13.10 | TJNII | You can tack numbers onto a broadvoice account, but there isn't a way for * to know which number was called. |
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| 20:13.35 | TJNII | So for multiple BV numbers you need multiple accounts. |
| 20:13.42 | obnauticus | ghay |
| 20:14.57 | A500mg | NOTICE[6269]: chan_iax2.c:6691 socket_read: Out of idle IAX2 threads for I/O, pausing! |
| 20:15.07 | A500mg | one line each second |
| 20:15.10 | A500mg | arggggg |
| 20:15.16 | drmessano | obnauticus: What exactly are you expectations for pricing? |
| 20:15.51 | drmessano | I mean, unless you're gonna use high volume, you're gonna pay consumer prices |
| 20:17.48 | obnauticus | drmessano well, we have 1 customer for example |
| 20:17.53 | obnauticus | that is going to be using 10,000min/mo |
| 20:17.57 | obnauticus | or needing that much |
| 20:18.13 | obnauticus | so im looking at around a million maybe in the future |
| 20:18.19 | obnauticus | i must go eat now |
| 20:18.26 | obnauticus | but look at my error |
| 20:18.34 | obnauticus | http://pastebin.ca/933459 |
| 20:18.40 | obnauticus | i have no damn clue what/why |
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| 20:32.32 | d00gster | is there a way to prevent some extentions from conneting from the public network and only connect from the private lan? I can so nat=no and that will not allow them to establish sip I guess, but is there any other way? |
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| 20:44.18 | Juggie | permissions |
| 20:44.34 | Juggie | oh hmmm now i see |
| 20:44.52 | Juggie | you cant really stop them from connecting i guess |
| 20:45.00 | Juggie | but you could stop them from making calls |
| 20:45.21 | d00gster | dont want employees to take phone home |
| 20:45.24 | tzafrir_home | d00gster, using different peers / users to connect from the public network |
| 20:46.32 | Juggie | tzafrir, i guess he wants some employees to be allowed to connect from public though but most not |
| 20:46.42 | d00gster | yes |
| 20:46.49 | Juggie | i would recomend just checking the ip of the phone in some macro |
| 20:47.01 | Juggie | and run a little script of some sort to decide if their ip is allowed to make calls or not |
| 20:47.07 | drmessano | d00gster, are the remote users you WANT to connect always remote? |
| 20:47.28 | d00gster | no |
| 20:47.47 | Juggie | d00gster, the other alternative is to create two asterisk installs (on the one box, or seperate) |
| 20:47.51 | drmessano | So some users you want to be able to take their phones home, others not? |
| 20:48.00 | d00gster | nat=no should work |
| 20:48.12 | d00gster | yes drmessano |
| 20:48.17 | Juggie | d00gster, it would still let them place calls though |
| 20:48.19 | Juggie | just no audio |
| 20:48.19 | drmessano | So use different DNS names |
| 20:48.34 | drmessano | or use the internal IP on some devices |
| 20:49.24 | Juggie | d00gster, i would go with writing a little script to get the IP of the phone and check it against a list of people who are allowed to be external and not. |
| 20:49.33 | drmessano | If you set the "Internal only" phones to use the internal IP, you're set |
| 20:49.35 | Juggie | then based on that you can deny the call or let it through |
| 20:50.01 | drmessano | and the others can use either the external IP or a hostname that publically accessible |
| 20:50.13 | d00gster | untill the employee get s hold of his sip credientials |
| 20:50.25 | drmessano | The phones arent locked? |
| 20:50.25 | Juggie | well then... that would be bad :) |
| 20:50.50 | drmessano | You don't pass protect the admin of the phone? |
| 20:51.06 | d00gster | this is a fresh install |
| 20:51.09 | d00gster | so I could |
| 20:51.12 | d00gster | but .. |
| 20:51.12 | drmessano | Yes |
| 20:51.14 | drmessano | and use diff IPs |
| 20:51.19 | d00gster | there must be a better way |
| 20:51.28 | drmessano | and no scripting or shenanigans allowed |
| 20:51.35 | drmessano | or needed |
| 20:52.01 | drmessano | Why is using different IPs a bad idea? |
| 20:52.16 | d00gster | explain |
| 20:52.24 | d00gster | so internally I use 192.168.0.0/16 |
| 20:52.31 | d00gster | for all exten and pcs |
| 20:52.36 | yassine | hi folks trying to run asterisk but it does not start and i get this when i try to connect to it : http://rafb.net/p/CvD0rv92.html |
| 20:52.44 | drmessano | Phones on the inside connect to 192.168.blah.blah |
| 20:52.49 | d00gster | externally they get nat'ed to my FW ip |
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| 20:53.05 | drmessano | and outside phones hit either the public IP or a public hostname |
| 20:53.10 | d00gster | yes |
| 20:53.20 | d00gster | that get's natd to 192.168.0.1 |
| 20:53.26 | drmessano | Yes |
| 20:53.29 | d00gster | ok |
| 20:53.39 | d00gster | then what? |
| 20:53.50 | drmessano | Ok, maybe I need to explain better |
| 20:54.02 | d00gster | sorry :-( |
| 20:54.23 | drmessano | If I set a phone to connect to pbx.blahdomain.com it will hit the PBX via the outside IP from the inside or outside, right? |
| 20:54.39 | d00gster | ok |
| 20:54.44 | d00gster | outside |
| 20:54.53 | drmessano | If I set a phone to connect to 192.168.0.1, how is it going to connect to your PBX from their home? |
| 20:55.02 | d00gster | oh |
| 20:55.08 | drmessano | it won't |
| 20:55.12 | d00gster | yes understood |
| 20:55.40 | drmessano | Lock the phones down so they can't fudge with the IPs |
| 20:55.43 | d00gster | the one that is confifued with public ip will get nated from the inside |
| 20:55.54 | d00gster | not good |
| 20:56.13 | drmessano | Any proper firewall will do a loopback |
| 20:56.30 | drmessano | I config all my boxes with the public hostname and have no issues |
| 20:56.33 | robmac67 | yassine: the r means connect to the instance already running |
| 20:56.44 | d00gster | ok cool |
| 20:56.47 | d00gster | will try it |
| 20:57.35 | drmessano | Another option, which is a bit more elegant.. is do it with DNS |
| 20:57.41 | drmessano | If you have access to the DNS |
| 20:58.05 | d00gster | yes |
| 20:58.08 | drmessano | Ok |
| 20:58.23 | yassine | robmac67: i found out that its trying to start up in realtime mode even that i set : AST_REALTIME=no |
| 20:58.32 | drmessano | So internal ONLY phones are set to internalpbx.blahdomain.com |
| 20:58.49 | drmessano | Which is does NOT resolve on the outside DNS |
| 20:59.17 | d00gster | ok |
| 20:59.22 | drmessano | Inside phones are externalpbx.blahdomain.com.. which on the INSIDE DNS resolves to 192.168.0.1 and on the OUTSIDE DNS points to the external IP of the PBX |
| 20:59.44 | drmessano | Those would be the phones you allow to go outside |
| 21:00.01 | drmessano | Not 192.168.0.1.. but the IP of your PBX |
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| 21:00.43 | robmac67 | use tail -f /var/log/asterisk/full to see the full error log |
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| 21:02.21 | ManxPower | drmessano: using DNS SRV records if you can, may speed up any moving of phones between outside and inside. |
| 21:02.52 | drmessano | Using the priority? |
| 21:04.23 | *** join/#asterisk jbot (i=ibot@pdpc/supporter/active/TimRiker/bot/apt) |
| 21:04.23 | *** topic/#asterisk is Asterisk: The Open Source PBX and Telephony Platform (asterisk.org) -=- Asterisk 1.6.0-beta5 (2008/03/05), Asterisk 1.4.19-rc1 (2008/03/05), *-Addons 1.4.6, 1.6.0-beta2 (2008/02/21), Zaptel 1.4.9.2 (2008/02/28), Libpri 1.4.3 (2007/12/13) -=- #asterisknow or #asterisk-gui for AsteriskNOW (asterisknow.org) -=- #switchvox for Switchvox (switchvox.com) -=- #freepbx for FreePBX/trixbox -=- FYI: sharks sighted today |
| 21:04.56 | drmessano | That's actually a slick idea |
| 21:05.24 | robmac67 | yassine: that log look like it says it is failing to connect to the database you have specified |
| 21:05.49 | drmessano | Actually.. if you use DNS SRV records, you only need ONE DNS |
| 21:06.24 | robmac67 | drmessano: last I saw Asterisk only uses the first srv record it finds :-( |
| 21:06.32 | drmessano | Asterisk wont be using it |
| 21:06.35 | drmessano | The phones will |
| 21:06.44 | yassine | robmac67: these are default values that comes with the default configs, i did not even created the odbc connections expected there (im not running in realtime mode) so i dont understand why it (asterisk assumes the realtime mode |
| 21:06.51 | robmac67 | ah - good point ... |
| 21:06.58 | ManxPower | just make sure that the phone will get back a response if it tries to connect to some place it can't connect to. |
| 21:07.05 | ManxPower | List the external first |
| 21:07.46 | robmac67 | ~book |
| 21:07.47 | jbot | Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com, or see ~buybook |
| 21:07.58 | robmac67 | yassine: take a look at the above link |
| 21:08.42 | yassine | robmac67: ok thanks you, ill have a try there then |
| 21:17.14 | drmessano | <obnauticus> My upstream totally knocked our VoIP company offline last night. I was all like "Dad, you're such a loser, why can't you pay the effin cable bill on time." |
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| 21:30.27 | outtolunc | -and |
| 21:33.19 | drmessano | lol |
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| 21:57.57 | drmessano | Linksys SPA-941 vs SPA-942.. Second Eth port and PoE? |
| 21:58.00 | angryuser[A] | hello, i am searching for sangome fxo user here |
| 21:58.05 | angryuser[A] | sangoma* |
| 21:59.11 | angryuser[A] | drmessano have you got any sangoma fxo hardware in production ? |
| 21:59.36 | robmac67 | drmessano: re Linksys, those are the only differences |
| 22:00.09 | drmessano | Thats what I thought/read |
| 22:00.12 | drmessano | Thanks |
| 22:01.19 | robmac67 | drmessano same with SPA921 vs 922 and they all have 4 lines with the latest firmware |
| 22:03.51 | drmessano | Hmm |
| 22:03.57 | drmessano | I forgot about that |
| 22:04.03 | drmessano | So basically a 922 = 942 now? |
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| 22:04.29 | drmessano | Wait.. not quite.. I see extra buttons.. Guess I need to read more |
| 22:04.38 | drmessano | But as far as lines go, yes |
| 22:06.20 | robmac67 | there isn't much in it - be be aware if you go for 9x2's they do not come with the psu's but they are available at minimal extra cost |
| 22:06.56 | robmac67 | just in case you don't have PoE available for all of them |
| 22:07.23 | drmessano | Ah |
| 22:07.29 | drmessano | Makes sense really.. |
| 22:07.51 | drmessano | Should be labeled "PoE Required" |
| 22:08.44 | denon | these days, it's pretty much a given that phone doesn't have a PS unless it explicitly says it does |
| 22:08.55 | denon | if it supports PoE, of course |
| 22:09.53 | drmessano | I guess you wouldnt get a PoE phone unless you had PoE waiting for it |
| 22:10.02 | denon | well, I don't think it's that .. |
| 22:10.17 | denon | just that people who do have PoE don't want a bunch of adapters laying around |
| 22:10.23 | denon | (or rather, have to pay for them just to toss em) |
| 22:10.29 | drmessano | That too |
| 22:10.35 | denon | so by making em all optional, only the ones that are needed are paid for |
| 22:11.06 | denon | it bugged me back on the 7960s, when we first started using em |
| 22:11.21 | denon | but that's mostly because it wasn't standard PoE, and the supplies were like 40 bucks |
| 22:11.45 | robmac67 | at least you have the option with Linksys - I have an old Aastra 480i which does not have a PSU input and won't power up on PoE :-( |
| 22:12.15 | denon | probably wouldn't boot with a PSU either .. |
| 22:12.32 | denon | not a lot of intelligence in there, between PoE voltage and where a PSU would jack in |
| 22:12.34 | drmessano | robmac67: WHat are the buttons next to the display for? The 94x has them, 92x doesnt |
| 22:12.48 | drmessano | Are those the "Line buttons" |
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| 22:13.08 | robmac67 | they are the physical line buttons if I recall correctly |
| 22:13.36 | drmessano | How do you utilize the 4 lines on the 92x? |
| 22:14.25 | denon | that one of those linksys phones where you can buy a 2-line addon license? |
| 22:14.32 | denon | to take 2 to 4 |
| 22:14.39 | drmessano | Its free now |
| 22:14.46 | denon | ah |
| 22:15.27 | robmac67 | I can't remember how it works now, I'll have to dig one out and have a look. |
| 22:15.30 | ccvp | man, wtf....i moved to AL from NJ 4 years ago |
| 22:15.32 | ccvp | Can someone PLEASE explain to me, why whenever it dusts, or even "snows" 1/18th of a milimeter of snow in Alabama, and that dusting melts away 20 minutes after it falls...that people deplete all of the water/milk/bread/eggs resources from the food stores, even when their homes already have a stockpile of a normal weeks/2weeks worth of food.... |
| 22:15.40 | drmessano | Im googling to see if I can find out how inconvenient the lack of the 4 line buttons is on an upgraded one |
| 22:15.51 | ccvp | i actually asked someone in Target about this earlier, and they had a blank look on my face as if they didn't know why they were buying it, it's just a habit that people have goten into she told me whenever there is even a microscopic flurry that doesn't effect traffic, it's an unconcious reaction to stock up on the rations stated above.... |
| 22:15.59 | ccvp | I don't know why, but this is very comical to me ahhaahhaha :) |
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| 22:18.16 | drmessano | I may just get the 941 then |
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| 22:18.47 | ccvp | drmessano, you should know the answer to my question |
| 22:18.53 | ccvp | since your a redneck also in GA :) lulz |
| 22:19.11 | robmac67 | I don't think there is much difference in the price - I'm not really sure why they have 4 instead of 2 models |
| 22:19.13 | drmessano | Im not a redneck, I am from NJ |
| 22:19.44 | drmessano | The only thing I am hung on is the 4 line buttons |
| 22:20.24 | drmessano | I would imagine theres some way of using the 4 lines without them, or else it wouldnt even work on a 92x |
| 22:20.35 | drmessano | But it's worth $10 to not be wrong.. lol |
| 22:20.39 | drmessano | Unless I find something different |
| 22:20.53 | robmac67 | I have both sorts out home but its a bit late to start digging them out and fiddling, I can have a look tomorrow if you want |
| 22:21.20 | drmessano | I'll keep googling.. I'll bug you again later if need be.. but thank you :) |
| 22:26.16 | drmessano | wow |
| 22:26.25 | drmessano | WTF is with the shipping from Telephonydepot |
| 22:26.56 | angryuser[A] | what was that clone china supplier name, ACM? PMC? |
| 22:27.06 | angryuser[A] | hmmm |
| 22:27.33 | robmac67 | drmessano: one line with two call appearances ... |
| 22:27.51 | angryuser[A] | dont remember APM ? |
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| 22:30.53 | drmessano | I'm just gonna get a 941 anyway |
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| 22:40.32 | obnauticus | yoyoyo |
| 22:41.17 | drmessano | obnauticus, I got some good news |
| 22:41.27 | terracon | I have a 921 on order because I'm a cheap bastard |
| 22:41.50 | drmessano | Someone told me if you can get an advance on your allowance, they'll hook you up with prepaid wholesale minutes |
| 22:41.57 | obnauticus | wha |
| 22:42.02 | obnauticus | whowhowho |
| 22:42.27 | drmessano | I'll let him answer you |
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| 22:43.43 | obnauticus | <3 |
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| 23:22.47 | obnauticus | Broadvoice's unlimited plans, is that on a per-channel basis? |
| 23:23.00 | obnauticus | so say you buy a global unlimited package for 80 bucks, is it only 1 channel? |
| 23:24.09 | ManxPower | any unlimited plan from any company will be one channel at a time or similar |
| 23:24.24 | ManxPower | (most allow 3-way calling, for example) |
| 23:24.43 | ManxPower | I find that for most usage, per min is actually cheaper |
| 23:24.57 | obnauticus | well ManxPower im setting up a voip provider company |
| 23:25.08 | ManxPower | obnauticus: I'm sorry to hear that. |
| 23:25.21 | obnauticus | lol |
| 23:25.23 | obnauticus | ya it's a bitch |
| 23:25.32 | obnauticus | but im wondering if that's on a per channel basis |
| 23:25.46 | obnauticus | or if someone here's done research already and has some suggestions |
| 23:25.48 | ManxPower | I would never start a VoIP company with less than US$1million |
| 23:25.54 | obnauticus | ya |
| 23:26.07 | ManxPower | your question is already answered |
| 23:26.33 | obnauticus | thanks |
| 23:27.04 | obnauticus | do you know of any good places to do tis stuff |
| 23:27.13 | ManxPower | "do this stuff"? |
| 23:27.19 | obnauticus | get bulk minutes |
| 23:27.20 | obnauticus | for cheap |
| 23:27.22 | obnauticus | ../free |
| 23:27.44 | ManxPower | Level3 if you want VoIP, most IXCs if you want PRI |
| 23:27.55 | obnauticus | well i had a question about that |
| 23:28.00 | ManxPower | There are ones similar to Level3, but I don't recall them at the moment. |
| 23:28.01 | obnauticus | if I get a DS3 |
| 23:28.29 | obnauticus | I don't know much about the DS lines.. |
| 23:28.51 | obnauticus | How much are the minutes with them? |
| 23:28.53 | ManxPower | Personally I like the mixed approach, get real PSTN service from a real carrier to handle your average usage, have a vood voip provider for overflow |
| 23:29.15 | ManxPower | obnauticus: any question of "how much..." totally depends on what you negotiate with your carrier. |
| 23:29.16 | obnauticus | well ManxPower we're going to start with other voip providers |
| 23:29.31 | obnauticus | then after like 3 months |
| 23:29.35 | obnauticus | get a T3 line... or something |
| 23:29.49 | ManxPower | You will have usage commitment's if you want any sort of discount. |
| 23:29.59 | ManxPower | What do you expect to use the T-1/DS3 for? |
| 23:30.04 | obnauticus | voice. |
| 23:30.09 | obnauticus | and one control. |
| 23:30.14 | ManxPower | obviously. Orgination, termination? |
| 23:30.15 | obnauticus | so for T1 23B+D |
| 23:30.25 | obnauticus | origination |
| 23:30.39 | ManxPower | So you will only be providing DIDs in one region. |
| 23:30.50 | ManxPower | You poor, poor guy. |
| 23:30.53 | obnauticus | lol. |
| 23:31.00 | obnauticus | well im only looking for solutions rightn ow |
| 23:31.04 | obnauticus | im not actually paying for anything |
| 23:31.27 | obnauticus | do you kjnow of any bulk providors that are good |
| 23:31.27 | ManxPower | Maybe you should do some google research rather than try to get us to design your tech ops for free. |
| 23:31.38 | obnauticus | ... |
| 23:31.40 | obnauticus | i have googled. |
| 23:31.46 | obnauticus | im just wondering... |
| 23:32.00 | ManxPower | maybe you should look at what the larger retail companies use. |
| 23:32.24 | obnauticus | T-Carriers. |
| 23:32.26 | obnauticus | and OC lines |
| 23:32.29 | ManxPower | The only bulk VoIP provider *I* know of is Level 3. As for bulk standard carriers, ANY OF THEM |
| 23:32.47 | ManxPower | AT&T, Sprint, any of them |
| 23:33.03 | CrashSys | XO has a carrier SIP program if you can chew through 1-mill. minutes/mo |
| 23:33.04 | ccvp | dam, COD4 is frieking fun on the xbox 360 on a 50" sony XBR 5 heh |
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| 23:33.26 | djs26 | ccvp - Niiice... |
| 23:33.32 | ManxPower | CrashSys: any bulk carrier will have big usage commitment's |
| 23:33.57 | CrashSys | Yeah, but i've used XO's sip network before, and it can actually handle large/fast call volume's... |
| 23:33.59 | gharz | guys, i'm looking at asterisk and i've some doubts... can asterisk be used as a tool for making voice conference... we have offices in different countries. |
| 23:34.01 | gharz | ? |
| 23:34.09 | ManxPower | gharz: yes |
| 23:34.14 | CrashSys | I've had some horrid experiences on other sip networks... |
| 23:34.32 | CrashSys | Like Verizon Business :) |
| 23:34.58 | gharz | ManxPower: any links on how to install this? i'm looking at the website and i still can't figure it how... i'm currently using ubuntu desktop |
| 23:35.00 | obnauticus | gharz MeetMe |
| 23:35.12 | ManxPower | ~thebook |
| 23:35.12 | jbot | Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com |
| 23:35.41 | gharz | thanks!!! |
| 23:36.03 | gharz | is there any limit as to how many people can join the conference? |
| 23:36.11 | obnauticus | Yes. |
| 23:36.16 | obnauticus | i forgot the amount... but there is a limit |
| 23:36.33 | obnauticus | it's pretty high up there though |
| 23:36.35 | obnauticus | iirc |
| 23:36.50 | gharz | most of the attendees are around 20 people |
| 23:37.07 | obnauticus | with enough bandwidth and computational power it can host 20 people |
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| 23:39.25 | _-Jon-_ | Evening all |
| 23:39.26 | gharz | does it mean that every office that we have in other countries should also be installing asterisk? |
| 23:40.19 | _-Jon-_ | I have a g729a codec question/issue. Is it possible to have my Sipura ATA connect to asterisk using g729a, but connect to my provider using ulaw? |
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| 23:42.21 | _ShrikE | _-Jon-_: Yes, But you will need a g.729 license on your * box for the required transcoding. |
| 23:42.49 | _-Jon-_ | I do, I have 1 license, but it complains about i'm out of decoder licenses when I try to place a call |
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| 23:44.46 | alben123 | hello |
| 23:45.00 | _ShrikE | what does show g729 tell you? |
| 23:45.19 | eric2 | from what I read, it doesn't look good, but, can 1.4 + realtime notify the user of their messages as they pick up the phone and hear the pulsing dial tone? |
| 23:45.42 | _-Jon-_ | 0/0 encoders/decoders of 1 licensed channels are currently in use |
| 23:46.46 | _-Jon-_ | If I call an extension that plays MoH only everything is fine, but if I try to place a call with allow=ulaw for my provder, I get Mar 8 18:45:10 WARNING[6059]: codec_g729.c:173 g729tolin_framein: Out of G.729 Decoder Licenses! |
| 23:47.40 | _ShrikE | Not sure what to tell you, the output show that you do have on license loaded. Not sure why it would not be used. |
| 23:47.55 | ManxPower | _-Jon-_: did you disallow=all in addition to allow=ulaw |
| 23:48.34 | _-Jon-_ | ManxPower, yes, disallow=all is set |
| 23:48.46 | _-Jon-_ | _Shrike, I think it's using it from ATA->Asterisk |
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| 23:49.09 | _-Jon-_ | But seems to be trying to use it from Asterisk->Link2Voip as well |
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| 23:53.07 | _-Jon-_ | Maybe I'll try upgrading to 1.4 |
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| 23:53.59 | SparFux | all of the sudden my iaxcomm doesn't start up anymore! damn. |
| 23:56.22 | obnauticus | ~free |
| 23:56.22 | jbot | extra, extra, read all about it, free is stuff might take awhile to get done |
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| 23:58.55 | livinded | is the 1.6 branch stable enough for home use, or is it worth sticking to 1.4? |
| 23:59.23 | _-Jon-_ | Geez, I haven't even upgraded to 1.4 yet, and there's 1.6 already :) |