| 00:00.05 | drmessano | yay |
| 00:00.08 | drmessano | Then it MUST be good |
| 00:00.09 | JT | BenGR: it sounds specifically like it is NOT working |
| 00:00.18 | _-Jon-_ | Question question.. Couldn't find an answer on Google. I'm wondering how I would make it so Asterisk queries a PHP script to see if a number is a rejected one, and if so, somehow returns a result which jumps to another extension |
| 00:00.26 | SteveTotaro | you should buy a switchvox system |
| 00:00.26 | BenGR | SteveTotaro ok that's a nice suggestion too. the problem is how to install the isdn card. trixbox is an asterisk dashboard, not an operating system interface |
| 00:00.45 | SteveTotaro | it is a whole OS |
| 00:00.48 | drmessano | Yesterday, I couldn't find the * on my keypad.. Now, I R Asterisk CallCenter Windows technician. Thank you Cygwin! |
| 00:00.49 | JT | BenGR: it probably won't work |
| 00:01.02 | JT | BenGR: asterisk hardware is only designed to work in linux typically |
| 00:01.13 | JT | cygwin is useless for interfacing with hardware directly |
| 00:01.31 | BenGR | JT: my isdn card has drivers for windows and it works |
| 00:01.36 | drmessano | Trixbox is an entire Linux + Asterisk + FreePBX + SomeStuff install that takes an hour to install |
| 00:01.38 | JT | awesome |
| 00:01.44 | JT | then why are you coming here? |
| 00:01.45 | drmessano | If you cant install Trixbox, you fail at life |
| 00:01.56 | BenGR | trixbox doesnt support my ISDN card directly. it needs some drivers |
| 00:02.09 | tsabi | BenGR: which one? |
| 00:02.21 | drmessano | Well, shoot.. If windows supports it, then by all means, stick with it |
| 00:02.22 | BenGR | JT because I can talk for 15 seconds. i can hear and they can hear me. means it works. but after 15 seconds the connection is broken. which means something is wrong on my configuration |
| 00:02.27 | SteveTotaro | when is the win64 port coming out? |
| 00:02.39 | BenGR | tsabi: HFC-PCI isdn |
| 00:02.46 | drmessano | BenGR: Thats called "Trying to run a realtime application on Windows" |
| 00:02.53 | SteveTotaro | do you answer() before establishing the call? |
| 00:03.19 | drmessano | BenGR what speed is this Windows PC? |
| 00:03.24 | drmessano | CPU and RAM |
| 00:03.28 | BenGR | SteveTotaro sorry? I just pick up the phone when it rigns |
| 00:03.35 | BenGR | drmessano: core 2 duo, 2 giga |
| 00:03.38 | SteveTotaro | a pentium 233 |
| 00:03.43 | SteveTotaro | he has an isa card |
| 00:03.44 | drmessano | Wow |
| 00:04.00 | BenGR | its a pci as I already mentioned |
| 00:04.00 | drmessano | Which version of windows? |
| 00:04.11 | BenGR | XP for the time. the final server will be 2003 :D heh |
| 00:04.16 | drmessano | OH GTFO |
| 00:04.35 | _-Jon-_ | Any ideas? |
| 00:04.40 | drmessano | BenGR, this is a joke, right? |
| 00:04.51 | drmessano | We celebrate that day on April 1 in United States |
| 00:05.05 | drmessano | I am not aware of joke day 2/22 in other countries |
| 00:05.21 | drmessano | AsteriskWin32 on XP |
| 00:05.26 | drmessano | Come on.. |
| 00:05.36 | SteveTotaro | ditch the windows idea |
| 00:05.38 | drmessano | SteveTotaro: Laugh, like you get the joke |
| 00:05.44 | SteveTotaro | you will be glad you did |
| 00:05.48 | BenGR | no this isn't a joke. I was unable to setup this card on linux. two people with knowledge on asterisk was unable to setup it. so Im giving a try to windows before I buy a 500euro card |
| 00:05.56 | SteveTotaro | you can hire someone to ssh your box and set it all up |
| 00:05.59 | drmessano | Two people? |
| 00:06.04 | BenGR | SteveTotaro i already, 2. |
| 00:06.07 | SteveTotaro | then use g4u to make an image |
| 00:06.17 | JT | they musn't be very smart |
| 00:06.20 | BenGR | they have setup many other asterisks. I have seen it |
| 00:06.29 | BenGR | but my card sucks, i dont know why |
| 00:06.29 | JT | to use a pci hfc card |
| 00:06.30 | drmessano | On windows? |
| 00:06.34 | JT | install bristuff |
| 00:06.36 | JT | set it up |
| 00:06.38 | JT | ??? |
| 00:06.39 | JT | profit |
| 00:06.52 | outtolunc | pizza! |
| 00:06.54 | drmessano | 1. Download a bootleg VLK XP ISO off usenet |
| 00:07.06 | drmessano | 2. Install it along with AsteriskWin32 |
| 00:07.10 | drmessano | 3.???? |
| 00:07.13 | drmessano | 4. Callcenter!!! |
| 00:08.08 | BenGR | ok guys i know its funny for you, it sounds crazy. asterisk for windows. but the problem I have it looks common for many other users on linux version. can someone gives me some directions about that "__ast_smoother_feed: smoother was working on" warning? |
| 00:08.11 | drmessano | BenGR: Asterisk 1.2 is not even going to be supported anymore... yet another reason it's a bad idea |
| 00:08.53 | JT | BenGR: did you even try to use bristuff on linux? |
| 00:09.09 | drmessano | How can you be sure the problem isn't with AsteriskWin32? |
| 00:09.25 | drmessano | No, you can't.. |
| 00:09.35 | drmessano | That's the difference |
| 00:09.40 | BenGR | jt: we tried trixbox only. an old version was working well. we had some noise problems. we had to plug out the isdn modem out of the computer for 1 minute every 2-3 days |
| 00:09.42 | drmessano | That's like troubleshooting a VM |
| 00:09.49 | BenGR | the next version (latest of trixbox) was unable to see the card at all |
| 00:09.55 | BenGR | and then I switched to windows :) |
| 00:09.56 | JT | BenGR: trixbox is fucking useless |
| 00:10.00 | JT | BenGR: get bristuff |
| 00:10.08 | drmessano | Trixbox is less Windows that Windows |
| 00:10.08 | JT | i guarantee if it's a hfc pci card |
| 00:10.11 | JT | it will work |
| 00:10.12 | drmessano | :) |
| 00:10.17 | drmessano | than* |
| 00:10.42 | drmessano | Anyway.. I stopped laughing like 5 mins ago |
| 00:10.44 | drmessano | Yawn |
| 00:10.50 | BenGR | jt is that an interface like trixbox that I can set it up quickly? |
| 00:11.04 | BenGR | cause I dont know to use the command line commands. im a poor windows delphi/c++ developer. |
| 00:11.14 | JT | BenGR: no, it has a configuration interface that allows you to set it up so it works (configuration files) |
| 00:11.21 | JT | stop being lazy and learn |
| 00:11.27 | JT | all you need to do is edit text files |
| 00:12.05 | BenGR | JT i just want to setup a small center for 2 phones in my office and I have to spent one month to make things work. ok does anyone here provide remote services? |
| 00:12.07 | drmessano | SteveTotaro: I have the answer |
| 00:12.34 | drmessano | BenGR: If it's taken you a month, maybe you need to try Skype |
| 00:12.39 | drmessano | I hear it's Skyperiffic |
| 00:13.14 | BenGR | drmessano: yeap for you it may take 10 minutes but there are some other things that for me it takes 10 minutes while for your it will take ages ;) |
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| 00:14.04 | drmessano | benGR: You wasted a month that you could be using to learn REAL Asterisk on Linux |
| 00:14.11 | drmessano | It's NOT that hard if you READ and stop being lazy |
| 00:14.23 | JT | ~thebook |
| 00:14.24 | jbot | Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com |
| 00:14.27 | BenGR | i didnt. i said if I have to spend. I just spend 2 hours for windows. |
| 00:14.43 | PMantis | I have an IAX phone call that I'm receiving a HANGUP request from the other end 119ms into the call, "CAUSE CODE : 16". What's cause code 16? |
| 00:14.47 | BenGR | im not lazy. I'm doing what I can do best, programming. |
| 00:14.55 | drmessano | Windows is NOT.. NOT .. NOT a platform for realtime apps like Asterisk, and especially under a shitty application layer |
| 00:14.56 | _-Jon-_ | So anyone know how I can get an AGI script that returns true to jump to another extension? |
| 00:14.59 | JT | PMantis: normal call clearinh |
| 00:15.07 | JT | clearing |
| 00:15.34 | drmessano | Windows barely reboots |
| 00:16.20 | PMantis | JT: That's weird, since this was an inbound call, ACCEPTED, ACK'd and then ~60ms later, we see a HANGUP request. the caller was still waiting on the phone. |
| 00:16.36 | JT | PMantis: perhaps a dialplan issue? |
| 00:16.42 | PMantis | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:16.55 | BenGR | Jt: did you see my pm? |
| 00:16.59 | PMantis | JT No, when I allow gsm, it works fine. |
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| 00:17.11 | JT | PMantis: what are you allowing? |
| 00:17.16 | PMantis | JT: g729 |
| 00:17.43 | JT | PMantis: licences? |
| 00:17.49 | PMantis | 4, 0 in use |
| 00:18.13 | PMantis | JT: show g729 shows that. |
| 00:18.13 | JT | can you test the licences using another channel type? |
| 00:18.27 | SteveTotaro | 1.2 is fine |
| 00:18.28 | PMantis | Hmmmm, dunno. |
| 00:18.29 | SteveTotaro | who cares if it is "supported" |
| 00:18.33 | SteveTotaro | supported by whom? |
| 00:19.07 | PMantis | SteveTotaro: Security updates won't come out for it... that's what "not suported" is. |
| 00:20.25 | PMantis | JT: This machine and the provider are the only machines I know of with g729 support. |
| 00:20.35 | drmessano | Since they haven't even taken the time to port to 1.4, chances are it will still be on 1.2 long after it's abandoned |
| 00:20.51 | _-Jon-_ | well this channel is useless |
| 00:20.53 | drmessano | It shows lack of initiative to even half ass their half ass port |
| 00:21.46 | styelz | heh |
| 00:22.07 | drmessano | I'm gonna port 1.0 to BeOS |
| 00:22.09 | drmessano | YAY |
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| 00:22.57 | SteveTotaro | i thought security updates were going to continue for 1.2 but that was it |
| 00:23.06 | drmessano | Thats correct |
| 00:23.12 | drmessano | Not bugfixes |
| 00:23.18 | SteveTotaro | so i am happy with 1.2 |
| 00:23.30 | SteveTotaro | new code = new bugs |
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| 00:23.56 | jer | anybody here have any experience porting a landline telephone number to a voip carrier in Canada? it's my understanding all you need is a pstn connection in the same area code as the DID exists for it to happen, am I correct? |
| 00:24.21 | Hyphenex | Hey gang, I'm trying to configure my Avaya IP phone with SIP, but first I need to set it up on the network, it's asking for a VLANID (VLANID=183) What is that all about?? |
| 00:24.27 | drmessano | You're missing the point.. If I going to commit to a port on a some wacko OS that really shouldn't even begin to have a port, at least throw the port in newer code so it doesn't look in 2 years like 1.0 does now |
| 00:25.11 | drmessano | Thats was the only reason I said what I said |
| 00:25.13 | drmessano | 1.2 isn't bad at all |
| 00:25.29 | JT | Hyphenex: vlan tagging |
| 00:25.45 | SteveTotaro | ok, gotcha |
| 00:25.50 | drmessano | Just would be funny as hell to see some 1.2 port on windows get pwned by a SIP exploit some time down the road lol |
| 00:25.57 | SteveTotaro | bottom line is forget windows for asterisk |
| 00:26.01 | drmessano | That too |
| 00:26.32 | drmessano | You know |
| 00:26.48 | drmessano | You could run it on an WRT54G with less aggrevation |
| 00:26.52 | drmessano | Maybe THAT is the answer |
| 00:27.12 | SteveTotaro | just get fc8 and yum install everything |
| 00:27.42 | Hyphenex | What happens if I don't have a VLAN? |
| 00:27.46 | drmessano | ..or use that older trixbox version he said worked |
| 00:27.48 | SteveTotaro | i have no idea about the isdn stuff but if they have a script like bristuff it should be easier than easy |
| 00:28.34 | drmessano | SteveTotaro: Stop making sense please |
| 00:28.42 | SteveTotaro | firestarter has to be the easiest app for firewall/internet connection sharing, i love it |
| 00:28.43 | drmessano | SteveTotaro: Next time, it's a ban |
| 00:31.21 | drmessano | http://www.junghanns.net/en/download.html |
| 00:31.21 | drmessano | BRIstuff |
| 00:31.53 | SteveTotaro | yeah, i had the pleasure of installing bristuff, the script does everything from downloading all of the asterisk pieces, patching and building |
| 00:32.31 | SteveTotaro | my problem was that the latest centos kernel had a problem with the system clock jumping ahead minutes at a time |
| 00:32.39 | drmessano | But were there clicky GUI boxes? |
| 00:32.52 | SteveTotaro | no clicky boxes |
| 00:32.54 | drmessano | :( |
| 00:33.41 | SteveTotaro | pure white text on black scrolling at a matrix like speed |
| 00:34.07 | drmessano | wow.. $44.6 billion for Yahoo |
| 00:34.25 | drmessano | That like, $3.50 per cheating soccer mom yahoo user |
| 00:36.08 | methods | defsdoor: what ? |
| 00:36.22 | jer | anybody know the requirements for LNP in Canada? been googling with no success =/ |
| 00:38.15 | SteveTotaro | jer = jerjer? |
| 00:38.35 | SteveTotaro | mr nufone? |
| 00:38.52 | [hC] | different jer :) |
| 00:41.12 | jer | SteveTotaro, no jer == jer |
| 00:42.03 | drmessano | SteveTotaro: Any ideas about inbound routing of calls from Bluetooth? |
| 00:42.53 | drmessano | Calls going to s@context |
| 00:42.55 | SteveTotaro | you mean from your phone and chan_mobile? |
| 00:43.13 | tzafrir_laptop | SteveTotaro, I have some further improvements to the bristuff compile script in my latest version |
| 00:43.18 | SteveTotaro | you set the context in mobile.conf i believe |
| 00:43.20 | drmessano | I guess I am gonna have to create a context for them |
| 00:43.23 | drmessano | Yeah |
| 00:43.29 | drmessano | I was trying to use my default |
| 00:43.34 | tzafrir_laptop | most of my improvements made into it into bristuff, some didn't |
| 00:43.39 | drmessano | But no CID or DID info |
| 00:44.01 | SteveTotaro | tzafrir_laptop: what improvements, i have to go back to that customer site next week |
| 00:44.25 | tzafrir_laptop | http://updates.xorcom.com/astribank/bristuff/1.4/bristuff-current/ <-- contents of the tarball |
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| 00:44.45 | tzafrir_laptop | specifically, check compile.sh |
| 00:44.56 | tzafrir_laptop | and also download.sh |
| 00:46.06 | tzafrir_laptop | I like quilt |
| 00:46.13 | tzafrir_laptop | ok, time to go to bed |
| 00:46.26 | *** part/#asterisk methods (n=daquino@c-68-36-237-152.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 00:46.51 | SteveTotaro | good night txafrir |
| 00:47.02 | SteveTotaro | *tzafrir* |
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| 00:59.36 | BBHoss | anybody know how to change the signaling type on an AA50? Everytime i change zaptel.conf and zapata.conf, it gets wiped out on reboot, and yes im using save_config |
| 01:00.27 | russellb | i think it expects that you use the GUI to change it |
| 01:00.38 | BBHoss | theres no option as far as i can tell |
| 01:00.51 | russellb | hm. |
| 01:01.07 | russellb | i know that stuff is in the gui .. maybe it's in the 1.1 build |
| 01:01.16 | russellb | i guess just contact support@digium.com .. |
| 01:01.20 | BBHoss | this is AADK 0.7 |
| 01:01.50 | russellb | do you know how old that is? i can't remember |
| 01:01.50 | Frogzoo | BBHoss: think you want to set driver options in /etc/modprobe.d/options ? |
| 01:02.11 | BBHoss | the main reason i want to change the signaling is because i'm getting some super weird behavior. |
| 01:03.43 | BBHoss | When an incoming call comes in through fxo port, it goes out to extension 6000 via an fxs port. The phone connected to the fxs will ring, but AS SOON AS YOU PICKUP, the caller hears a busy signal, and you get the outside line |
| 01:04.05 | PMantis | JT: I think it's the provider that has an issue with g729. to test, I'm ordering my own license. |
| 01:04.12 | BBHoss | this is using kewlstart, i'm thinking it should be loopstart |
| 01:04.20 | PMantis | JT: (that was my clients' PBX) |
| 01:04.46 | BBHoss | ever heard of such a thing russellb |
| 01:05.24 | russellb | nope |
| 01:05.35 | BBHoss | BTW AADK 0.7 was released August 10, 2007 |
| 01:09.21 | russellb | gotcha ... |
| 01:09.28 | russellb | i just know there has been a ton of work since then ... |
| 01:10.04 | [hC] | There is something going on i think with AADK and asterisk-gui with some branch merges |
| 01:10.17 | [hC] | cause id love to be able to use the AADK + new asterisk + asterisk-gui as well |
| 01:10.20 | [hC] | but its out of date badly |
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| 01:11.19 | riddlebox | does anyone use astercrm? |
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| 01:18.29 | AJayMN | is there a way to check to make sure the application .so files are the correct versions? I think i might have a mix of old and new |
| 01:19.24 | JunK-Y | AJayMN: juste rm -rf /usr/lib/asterisk/modules then make install again? |
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| 01:21.51 | [hC] | Is there a variable in 1.2 that provides just the username portion of the sip user who's placing the current call? |
| 01:22.07 | [hC] | ie if i dial something with SIP user JOE-102, i want a variable that contains "JOE-102" |
| 01:22.33 | BeeBuu | {EXTEN} |
| 01:22.44 | [hC] | no, exten is what you dialed. |
| 01:23.01 | BeeBuu | what your mean？ |
| 01:23.21 | BeeBuu | DTMF |
| 01:23.22 | BeeBuu | ？ |
| 01:23.34 | [hC] | uhh |
| 01:23.44 | [hC] | no, EXTEN is the extension you dialed |
| 01:23.55 | [hC] | I dont think there is a variable for what I want, i'll have to mangle ${CHANNEL} |
| 01:25.29 | ManxPower | [hC]: nothing listed in channelvariables.txt 1.4 added a bunch of SIP specific variables |
| 01:27.00 | russellb | there may be a dialplan function to get it |
| 01:27.03 | russellb | but it wouldn't be in 1.2 |
| 01:27.11 | russellb | well, i'm sure there is, just not in 1.2 |
| 01:29.50 | ManxPower | Are you running 1.2 or 1.4, [hC]? |
| 01:30.20 | [hC] | mixed :) but im concerned about 1.2 |
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| 01:34.22 | ManxPower | SIP_HEADER SIP_HEADER(<name>) Gets the specified SIP header |
| 01:34.30 | ManxPower | Sounds pretty easy to me. |
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| 01:35.01 | ManxPower | from "show functions" in 1.2 |
| 01:35.55 | [hC] | that still returns more than i want that I have to parse down though |
| 01:36.07 | [hC] | For example if i grab "From" I'm going to get the full sip uri |
| 01:36.30 | [hC] | i only want the sip username, and I dont believe there's a header that contains just that |
| 01:36.32 | seanbright | then just strip off the hex at the end of the channel name and you're golden |
| 01:36.45 | seanbright | in 1.2 i think its 4 digits |
| 01:36.52 | [hC] | Ive already done it now using CUT |
| 01:37.04 | [hC] | FULLPEER=(${CUT(CHANNEL|-|1)) |
| 01:37.15 | seanbright | that will work as long as your peers don't contain - in their names |
| 01:37.19 | [hC] | PEERUSER=${CUT(FULLPEER|/|2) |
| 01:37.21 | ManxPower | unless you have - in your sip userid |
| 01:37.31 | [hC] | ah very true. |
| 01:37.35 | seanbright | otherwise you're all set |
| 01:37.37 | [hC] | Well then, even easier |
| 01:37.40 | russellb | yeah, but doign that is bad for other reasons too |
| 01:37.45 | russellb | it breaks device state handling ... |
| 01:37.50 | [hC] | PEERUSER=${CUT(CHANNEL:0:5|/|2) |
| 01:38.00 | seanbright | doing what is bad? |
| 01:38.02 | russellb | so, don't have peer names with - in it :) |
| 01:38.05 | ManxPower | half the things people do in Asterisk are not a good idea. 8-) |
| 01:38.06 | russellb | that ^^ |
| 01:38.08 | seanbright | ahh |
| 01:38.16 | russellb | heh |
| 01:38.17 | seanbright | really? |
| 01:38.30 | [hC] | I have sip peers with - in them |
| 01:38.31 | seanbright | that sounds like a bug in device state handling ;) |
| 01:38.38 | russellb | maybe it got fixed ... |
| 01:38.40 | [hC] | and thats bad? |
| 01:38.52 | russellb | let me look at what the code does now |
| 01:39.00 | ManxPower | Every single of our SIP peers have - in the peer name |
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| 01:39.21 | [hC] | This is retarded that CUT wants a variable without ${} |
| 01:39.35 | [hC] | now i cant manipulate it like ${VARIABLE:0:5} |
| 01:39.37 | ManxPower | 0004f211f932-a is an example |
| 01:39.52 | russellb | [hC]: well, you can ... it just takes a few steps, heh |
| 01:40.01 | russellb | Set(NEWVAR=${VARIABLE:0:5} |
| 01:40.04 | russellb | CUT(NEWVAR...) |
| 01:40.05 | [hC] | yeah |
| 01:40.07 | [hC] | .. :) |
| 01:40.25 | ManxPower | russellb: that's what I was getting read to type. 8-) |
| 01:40.31 | ManxPower | read == ready |
| 01:40.48 | russellb | ok, so, i forgot that the '-' thing is handled now :) |
| 01:40.50 | russellb | nm ;) |
| 01:41.13 | [hC] | so in that case, to get the sip user name, where having -'s is okay, i could do Set(FULLSIPPPER=${CHANNEL:0:5}) and then CUT(FULLSIPPEER|/|2) |
| 01:41.19 | seanbright | "now" being which versions? |
| 01:41.30 | [hC] | it would have just been much handier if i could have done the ${VAR:0:5} step inside the cut is all |
| 01:41.30 | russellb | seanbright: 1.4 and trunk at least |
| 01:41.42 | seanbright | russellb: phew |
| 01:42.02 | seanbright | :) |
| 01:42.36 | russellb | heh |
| 01:43.04 | J4k3 | :( |
| 01:43.33 | plik | J4k3: intel fxp / em ftw |
| 01:43.36 | J4k3 | (its an athlon64 3000+... it'd be a big step up from what I'm using) |
| 01:43.39 | ManxPower | You can still get PCMCIA ones |
| 01:43.44 | plik | oh cardbus ;? |
| 01:44.04 | plik | s/\?/\// |
| 01:44.08 | J4k3 | yeah |
| 01:44.11 | J4k3 | its a laptop |
| 01:44.19 | J4k3 | (aiming for lowish power consumption) |
| 01:44.34 | J4k3 | and, I already have the machine, and its rock stable just not very fast. |
| 01:44.35 | plik | and no need for a ups ;) |
| 01:44.40 | J4k3 | and its heavy as a stack of bricks |
| 01:44.41 | J4k3 | that too ;) |
| 01:44.53 | J4k3 | that thing got 6 hours with the LCD closed idle in XP |
| 01:45.00 | J4k3 | off the stock lowish-capacity battery |
| 01:45.13 | J4k3 | the battery in it is dead, but $40ish on ebay gets me a refurb |
| 01:45.56 | Wayhigh | anyone know of a voip provider with cheap minutes that you don't prepay for? |
| 01:46.02 | J4k3 | at idle in kubuntu live cd, it consumes about half as much as the P3-700 desktop I'm using now |
| 01:46.22 | J4k3 | Wayhigh: yeah, but they all require a deposit ;) |
| 01:46.29 | J4k3 | or an approved line of credit |
| 01:47.03 | [hC] | How can i mangle ${VARIABLE} to strip the LAST 8 characters off the end? |
| 01:47.04 | Wayhigh | I don't mind getting an approved line of credit |
| 01:47.23 | Wayhigh | just having trouble getting my wife to do a $50 buy-in unless I want to wait a week.. |
| 01:47.31 | Wayhigh | (trying for instant gratification here) |
| 01:47.39 | ManxPower | [hC]: it's documented in channelvariables.txt aka README.variables |
| 01:47.48 | J4k3 | thats why god made credit cards |
| 01:47.51 | J4k3 | pay now, debt later! |
| 01:47.51 | J4k3 | :D |
| 01:48.15 | J4k3 | I use vitelity, I think they're about $10 buyin but the minutes aren't horribly cheap |
| 01:48.26 | [hC] | ManxPower: Im looking at it.. But, it goes VAR:length:offset - it all seems to be based around knowing how many characters you want to keep from the left to the right |
| 01:48.32 | J4k3 | I think us48 termination is at ~1.3c or so |
| 01:48.39 | Wayhigh | j4k3: end of the month.. we pay off every month.. |
| 01:48.54 | ManxPower | [hC]: combined with the LEN() function..... |
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| 01:49.15 | J4k3 | Wayhigh: do you need a lot of call paths? |
| 01:49.43 | J4k3 | you can get unlimited us48 termination for like $6/month/line from sellvoip, assuming they're still in business, and they're working this week. |
| 01:49.53 | Wayhigh | j4k3: probably not.. the trouble is the big one I need right now is to brazil |
| 01:50.00 | J4k3 | ee |
| 01:50.06 | J4k3 | look for a brazilian itsp |
| 01:50.08 | ManxPower | As long as it's less than 1.9/cents/min I'm happy if they are reliable |
| 01:50.13 | J4k3 | thats usually cheapest |
| 01:50.36 | Wayhigh | I was going to use voicepulse connect because I've heard good things about them |
| 01:50.52 | Wayhigh | but they have that $50 prepay |
| 01:51.03 | J4k3 | damn, thats just... eee |
| 01:51.10 | ManxPower | So many poor people on this channel. |
| 01:51.14 | J4k3 | $50 to test something that has a high chance of not being acceptable |
| 01:51.28 | ManxPower | either that if cheap bastards. |
| 01:51.50 | J4k3 | ManxPower: $50 is mighty damned high for prepaid termination |
| 01:52.00 | J4k3 | theres *no* logical reason for that |
| 01:52.00 | ManxPower | J4k3: I agree |
| 01:52.19 | ManxPower | J4k3: keeps away the casual users and is not much of a barrier for higher volume users. |
| 01:52.33 | J4k3 | especially since they 'own' the switch. you run out of $$, your call drops. |
| 01:52.45 | Wayhigh | j4k3: that's my issue with it too |
| 01:52.47 | J4k3 | ManxPower: yeah... makes sense. |
| 01:53.04 | [hC] | ManxPower: what a pain. So I have to get the length, then subtract 8 from that, then use the result in the original substring. |
| 01:53.09 | J4k3 | ManxPower: I can see setting the bar high for support reasons... |
| 01:53.28 | J4k3 | if its a support-related issue, maybe you could contact and get a lower initial buy-in |
| 01:53.34 | *** join/#asterisk mosty (n=mostyn@60-241-198-194.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 01:53.49 | J4k3 | and that you cannot get $50 allocated to test the route |
| 01:54.03 | J4k3 | but a lower test buyin could be possible, etc. |
| 01:54.16 | J4k3 | of course, I'm also a cheap bastard |
| 01:54.21 | J4k3 | but being a cheap bastard usually pays |
| 01:54.31 | J4k3 | I pay $900 for a T1 I was originally quoted $1450 for |
| 01:54.42 | J4k3 | why? cheapbastarditis... I talked the guy down for 6 months |
| 01:55.19 | Wayhigh | j4k3: ya know.. they supposedly have $2 for trialing the connection |
| 01:55.36 | Wayhigh | but my point is.. $2 doesn't make sense when you have to pay $50 to get it.. |
| 01:55.38 | J4k3 | that works |
| 01:55.52 | ManxPower | J4k3: or you can just use a different company. It's not like there are not many choices |
| 01:56.37 | drmessano | My ITSP pays me to use their service |
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| 01:56.52 | drmessano | ok, no |
| 01:58.01 | Wayhigh | drmessano: who do you use.. RBN? :P |
| 01:58.12 | drmessano | ~vontage |
| 01:58.29 | ManxPower | ~itsp |
| 01:58.30 | jbot | [~itsp] An ITSP is an Internet telephony Service Provider or "VoIP Telephone company". The allow you to either PLACE calls to the PSTN (called Termination), RECEIVE calls from the PSTN (called Origination), or both. Some offer fixed rates, others $/min. Enter ~itsplist-us (USA) or ~itsplist-ca (Canada) for a listing of popular ITSPs |
| 01:58.46 | drmessano | ~vontage |
| 01:58.46 | jbot | rumour has it, vontage is ZOMG I R USE VONTAGE FOR MY IRTP |
| 01:59.39 | drmessano | I think I have managed to lower the IQ of jbot by 75 points or so |
| 02:00.18 | [hC] | so for anyone curious, here's what i did to finally get the sip user name: |
| 02:00.19 | [hC] | exten => s,2,SetVar(FULLSIPPEER=${CHANNEL:0:$[${LEN(${CHANNEL})} - 9]}) |
| 02:00.20 | [hC] | exten => s,3,SetVar(ORIGCID=${CUT(FULLSIPPEER|/|2)}) |
| 02:00.29 | [hC] | ORIGCID contains the sip username. |
| 02:00.49 | drmessano | ah sweet |
| 02:01.11 | [hC] | this is of course presuming that the identifier at the end of ${CHANNEL} is always 9 characters including the dash :) |
| 02:01.12 | seanbright | hmmm |
| 02:01.15 | ManxPower | [hC]: now you are starting to get the sick twisted way we use to set up dialplans |
| 02:01.37 | seanbright | [hC]: do you know of sip.conf in 1.2 supports the setvar option? |
| 02:01.40 | [hC] | ManxPower: oh I have plenty of these nuggets. But, its 6pm on friday and not all of my neurons are firing :) |
| 02:01.51 | [hC] | seanbright: i hate you. |
| 02:01.54 | [hC] | seanbright: yes it does. |
| 02:01.56 | [hC] | akldsjflkhaf |
| 02:02.29 | seanbright | [hC]: :) |
| 02:02.38 | seanbright | just came to me |
| 02:02.39 | seanbright | sorry |
| 02:02.40 | [hC] | asterisk makes me want to punch babies sometimes |
| 02:02.41 | [hC] | Thanks |
| 02:02.59 | [hC] | You know the shitty part too is, I came up with that weeks ago as the solution, and when i sat down to tackle this today |
| 02:03.18 | [hC] | I forgot, and went along the common thought path, forgetting that nice little feature |
| 02:03.33 | ManxPower | [hC]: my asterisk macros are complex, ugly, twisted, but they work |
| 02:03.36 | seanbright | always works out that way |
| 02:04.04 | [hC] | ManxPower: yeah, i have a ton of that crap. The difficult part is reading it again afterwards. How many times have you stared at: })}])]}) |
| 02:04.07 | [hC] | :P |
| 02:04.12 | seanbright | i spent 3 hours today debugging a problem that ended up being the difference between calling "foo.ThisMethodName()" and "ThisMethodName()" |
| 02:04.18 | seanbright | felt like a moron when i figured it out |
| 02:04.40 | [hC] | those are the best arent they? :) |
| 02:04.54 | Nugget | Just delete lines until the code compiles. that's how I debug. |
| 02:05.17 | drmessano | It's far better when you change something and forget to reload |
| 02:05.21 | drmessano | Keep getting the same result |
| 02:05.31 | drmessano | "NO WAI" |
| 02:05.36 | drmessano | Yah, way |
| 02:05.40 | plik | is it possible to create a local file that will match incoming caller-id to locally created list of names, without getting in to AGI scripting if poss?... grateful for any pointers besides ~book or ~wiki |
| 02:06.23 | [hC] | haha. now its one line |
| 02:06.30 | [hC] | setvar=SIPUSERNAME=102 |
| 02:06.33 | [hC] | ${SIPUSERNAME} |
| 02:06.54 | [hC] | oh well. lessons have been learned anyhow. |
| 02:07.07 | seanbright | heh |
| 02:07.13 | seanbright | yeah, lots cleaner |
| 02:07.31 | [hC] | readable dialplans++ |
| 02:07.34 | seanbright | i generate all of my peers out of a mssql database |
| 02:07.36 | mosty | plik, sure, just make your "local file" in the dialplan format and #include it from extensions.conf |
| 02:07.39 | seanbright | so it makes stuff like that trivial |
| 02:07.46 | seanbright | err |
| 02:07.51 | [hC] | so do i. this will save a lot of time |
| 02:07.52 | seanbright | changing stuff like that trivial, rather. |
| 02:08.20 | [hC] | or rather, it would have before i spent the time making that cut function work. :) |
| 02:08.28 | plik | ta mosty, will have a go |
| 02:08.46 | Wayhigh | this place apparently doesn't know what "instant activation" means |
| 02:09.00 | ManxPower | plik: "show application readfile" |
| 02:09.18 | plik | ManxPower: also noted, thank you |
| 02:09.18 | mosty | plik, ie it's exactly the same as encoding that into extensions.conf, except it's in a separate file |
| 02:09.46 | ManxPower | plik: it's not very useful in 1.2, but in 1.4 it should be very useful. |
| 02:10.22 | plik | got 1.4 here :) |
| 02:13.22 | ManxPower | plik: reading "show applications" and "show functions" is VERY good for learning asterisk |
| 02:13.29 | ManxPower | just remember functions are ALL UPPER CASE. |
| 02:13.43 | ManxPower | "show function x" won't work, use "show function X" 8-) |
| 02:14.23 | plik | yeah... tab completion helps get that right :) |
| 02:15.04 | Wayhigh | soo.. I just emailed this place to let them know that claiming "instant activation" and then requiring forms is a violation of consumer protection acts. |
| 02:15.34 | Wayhigh | it'll be interesting to hear what they say in response.. I'm guessing it will be something similar to.. <comfort noise generation here>.. |
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| 02:20.37 | mosty | Wayhigh, maybe it is activated instantly when the forms are recevied? |
| 02:22.07 | outtolunc | try getting a secure cert without filling in some forms |
| 02:24.07 | Wayhigh | hahaha what's instant about having to fax in forms and activation being "within 2 days" |
| 02:24.48 | Wayhigh | they're lucky my state is only actual damages for something like this or I'd go after them for the small check it would be worth |
| 02:25.01 | outtolunc | it is activated, just not verified <G> |
| 02:25.26 | Wayhigh | you'd have an awefully hard time arguing that successfully.. |
| 02:25.34 | outtolunc | not really |
| 02:26.24 | Wayhigh | instant activation would mean, to a person of average intelligence, that they would be capable of using the service immediately upon completion of the online form and giving them your credit card number. |
| 02:26.58 | outtolunc | not if said service, not 'semi-yadda' person was unaware of other requirements |
| 02:27.02 | Wayhigh | I totally understand why they're doing what they're doing but it's just silly fauxsecurity |
| 02:27.15 | outtolunc | those requirements can be at a different level, like govt |
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| 02:30.19 | Wayhigh | I hear ya.. but that still doesn't mean that advertising "instant activation" isn't a material nondisclosure |
| 02:31.54 | outtolunc | i hear you also, i just understand that 'instant' in this day and age, also means '*after* all of the following happen.. cc validation, card bang, verification, risk assessment, form verification, etc etc etc |
| 02:32.24 | outtolunc | all of which 'should' hopefully happen in one fell swoop |
| 02:32.28 | outtolunc | but doesn't always |
| 02:32.52 | outtolunc | i have had risk assessment group contact me days later.. |
| 02:33.08 | outtolunc | saying 'you didn't send them product yet did you' |
| 02:33.13 | outtolunc | hello!!! |
| 02:33.20 | outtolunc | haha |
| 02:33.59 | outtolunc | here is another example |
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| 02:34.26 | outtolunc | thawte used to send me an email to 'instantly update' my *existing* secure cert |
| 02:34.38 | outtolunc | fill in form |
| 02:34.39 | Wayhigh | I work in the security field and this voodoo feel-good security crap bothers me. |
| 02:34.41 | outtolunc | band card |
| 02:34.44 | outtolunc | er bang |
| 02:35.01 | outtolunc | then *require* me to fill out the SAME f'n forms, 5 years in a row |
| 02:35.35 | Wayhigh | a credit card, cvv2 number for proof of card, and a statement in the form regard it being a legal digital signature.. |
| 02:35.51 | Wayhigh | that should be all you need to establish the ToS |
| 02:36.20 | Wayhigh | honestly.. asking for a copy of the drivers license AND the credit card affixed to a fax is just sooo heinous |
| 02:36.38 | outtolunc | what is this for again? |
| 02:36.51 | Wayhigh | a simple $2 trial voip account |
| 02:36.54 | outtolunc | haha |
| 02:37.04 | outtolunc | umm 'just say no' (tm) |
| 02:38.12 | ManxPower | teliax and vitelity both were instant access once you paid your min signup. |
| 02:38.54 | mosty | Wayhigh, it's not security so much as legal requirement |
| 02:40.05 | ManxPower | mosty: there is less paperwork to sign up for an ADULT site. |
| 02:40.12 | Wayhigh | what legal requirement? |
| 02:40.33 | ManxPower | One would assume that keeping kids from porn would be more important than keeping kids from making $2 worth of VoIP prank calls. |
| 02:41.11 | Wayhigh | if you were going to make voip prank calls.. wouldn't you just use 1800free411 anyways? |
| 02:41.26 | mosty | Wayhigh, agreements between the credit card companies and the company in question, without certain paperwork/signatures, the CC company can penalise the company in questio |
| 02:42.04 | Wayhigh | right.. and I'm saying that as long as they have proper documentation.. that does not necessarily have to be hard copies.. there shouldn't be a problem.. |
| 02:42.33 | Wayhigh | the only thing that shows me is that their merchant account is not enabled for online processing.. and if that's the case then it's a very sketchy merchant account indeed |
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| 02:43.21 | mosty | some CC companies don't accept faxed signatures |
| 02:44.49 | Wayhigh | hell.. most CC companies don't even look at signatures anyways |
| 02:45.09 | mosty | not until there is a disputed payment |
| 02:45.48 | mosty | and then the CC company will penalise the merchant if they don't have the correct documentation for the charge |
| 02:45.51 | drmessano | I put "SEE ID" on the back of my debit card |
| 02:45.57 | ManxPower | If they have a faxed photo copy of the card, can they flag the transaction as "card present" and get the lower transaction fee? |
| 02:45.58 | drmessano | Took 6 months before someone asked |
| 02:46.12 | mosty | ManxPower, i don't think so |
| 02:47.18 | ManxPower | many credit card companies in the USA will permit no-signature transactions under $20 |
| 02:54.30 | outtolunc | i can't believe it is only 6:54pm (locally) feels like it is midnight |
| 02:55.45 | jm|home | Sat Feb 23 02:56:38 GMT 2008 |
| 02:55.52 | jm|home | doesn't feel like midnight here |
| 02:57.39 | Asterlinktechy | Hi, I got this error when I try to call thru my IAX trunk |
| 02:57.42 | Asterlinktechy | [Feb 23 10:54:30] NOTICE[2458]: chan_sip.c:13795 handle_request_invite: Failed to authenticate user "6000" <sip:6000@192.168.2.252>;tag=14687580-AB787F87 |
| 02:58.03 | Asterlinktechy | If I try to use my SIP Trunk its okay to call outside |
| 02:59.11 | *** join/#asterisk coppice (n=chatzill@175.203.17.210.dyn.pacific.net.hk) |
| 02:59.11 | ManxPower | Asterlinktechy: you do not have a [6000] entry in sip.conf |
| 02:59.33 | drmessano | Oh nice |
| 02:59.34 | Asterlinktechy | I have and my polycom phone registering to it |
| 02:59.34 | ManxPower | Asterlinktechy: You CANNOT get that error with IAX, you can only get that error with SIP. |
| 03:00.15 | ManxPower | Asterlinktechy: that message means either the userid was not found or the password is wrong. |
| 03:00.16 | Asterlinktechy | 6000/6000 192.168.2.210 D 5060 Unmonitored |
| 03:00.48 | ManxPower | Asterlinktechy: NO! The device at 192.168.2.252 is trying to register as user 6000 |
| 03:00.56 | Asterlinktechy | hmmm |
| 03:01.06 | styelz | u6 |
| 03:01.08 | ManxPower | that's kind of why the IP address of the offending device is put in the NOTICE |
| 03:01.08 | Asterlinktechy | I try this extention locally and it works heheh |
| 03:01.31 | ManxPower | I give up. |
| 03:01.39 | Asterlinktechy | hehe thanks |
| 03:02.42 | ManxPower | I do think that asterlink.com might get upset with you using their name |
| 03:03.17 | Asterlinktechy | :)) I just think this name :P |
| 03:03.28 | Asterlinktechy | I'm asterisk newbie :) |
| 03:04.08 | ManxPower | BTW, what is your native language? |
| 03:04.35 | Asterlinktechy | tagalog |
| 03:05.26 | Asterlinktechy | just start studying asterisk :) |
| 03:05.33 | ManxPower | ~book |
| 03:05.33 | jbot | Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com, or see ~buybook |
| 03:05.35 | ManxPower | ~mailinglist |
| 03:05.36 | jbot | Search Asterisk mailing lists by prepending site:lists.digium.com to your Google search. Browse the mailing list archive at http://lists.digium.com/ or search through it at http://www.asteriskguru.com/archives, or and there is also the Macintosh Asterisk mailing list at http://www.astmasters.net/maml.htmm |
| 03:05.41 | ManxPower | ~wiki |
| 03:05.52 | ManxPower | ~docs |
| 03:05.53 | jbot | methinks docs is Documentation can be found at http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk or http://www.asteriskdocs.org or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/asterisk or http://www.asteriskguru.com |
| 03:05.53 | outtolunc | it's been almost 20 years since i was in PI |
| 03:06.06 | Asterlinktechy | k thanks |
| 03:06.28 | ManxPower | Asterlinktechy: in the future you might mention English is not your native language |
| 03:07.18 | ManxPower | People may be more patient with your questions. |
| 03:26.17 | Nasra | Steve here tonight? |
| 03:27.38 | Nasra | SteveTotaro... |
| 03:27.57 | coppice | ManxPower: if his mother tongue is tagalog, he should have no problems with english |
| 03:28.10 | outtolunc | last i remember he was saying something about giving up and vesa <G> |
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| 03:30.50 | Asterlinktechy | :) |
| 03:31.26 | *** join/#asterisk ltd (n=z@pat.transact.net.au) |
| 03:31.53 | Asterlinktechy | i just get quick reference... :) |
| 03:33.14 | ManxPower | coppice: Bad English is OK as long as it isn't your native language. |
| 03:33.46 | coppice | its rare to meet a tagalog speaker who has much trouble with english |
| 03:34.25 | coppice | they can't claim to be the third largest english speaking country, and not speak it well :-) |
| 03:38.03 | J4k3 | define 'bad english' |
| 03:38.09 | J4k3 | english is pretty bad to begin with |
| 03:38.37 | coppice | bad english == things like harbor, color, etc |
| 03:38.45 | seanbright | J4k3: the terrorists just won |
| 03:38.49 | seanbright | nice work. |
| 03:40.00 | J4k3 | seanbright: there are no terrorists. |
| 03:40.19 | J4k3 | the only *terror* is in your own head |
| 03:40.20 | seanbright | J4k3: there is no spoon. |
| 03:40.25 | seanbright | ugh |
| 03:40.29 | seanbright | damn hippy |
| 03:40.30 | seanbright | heh |
| 03:40.33 | J4k3 | if you're that scared, you're a woman's sex organ :P |
| 03:40.35 | Asterlinktechy | :P |
| 03:40.42 | J4k3 | damn pussies |
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| 03:41.04 | J4k3 | fuckin pussies are gonna blow the world up |
| 03:41.07 | J4k3 | one of these days |
| 03:41.48 | bobnormal | err, moving right along, anyone have experience integrating asterisk with php (or other scripting languages) for custom incoming call-center operator interfaces? |
| 03:42.23 | bobnormal | i'm trying to figure out the best way of doing this and am quite surprised not to have found any relevant docs yet via google |
| 03:42.26 | seanbright | bobnormal: i use .net for that stuff, but sure. |
| 03:43.16 | TJNII | php and asterisk integrate quite nicely |
| 03:43.19 | bobnormal | seanbright: how do you get the link going? i have a queue set up and functioning, but wish to deliver the incoming call event through to my server-side web app (already has ajax-based polling set up for updating individual operator interfaces) |
| 03:43.44 | seanbright | bobnormal: you can use AGI |
| 03:43.46 | TJNII | All my * agis are in PHP, it wasn't that hard |
| 03:43.47 | bobnormal | i guess calling AGI is an easy out, but the problem is i'm not sure which queue member will take the call yet |
| 03:43.51 | mosty | bobnormal, what sort of things do you want to do? |
| 03:44.09 | seanbright | bobnormal: then write something to monitor the AMI, and when the call is delivered, you will know which agent |
| 03:44.30 | bobnormal | i need to pass the caller ID and other information (language, possibly tertiary information from a database with that caller ID) to the receiving operator |
| 03:45.19 | bobnormal | seanbright: is that the simplest/most elegant method? i am planning to have quite a few queues. is there something pre-written for this? it seems like it should be a common requirement |
| 03:45.26 | seanbright | bobnormal: do something like this... write an agi that you call when the call starts (before the caller gets to the queue) that stores off the ANI, DNIS, unique id, etc to the DB |
| 03:45.33 | mosty | bobnormal: personally, i would write a queue macro and not use app_queue, then you have a lot more control |
| 03:46.02 | seanbright | um |
| 03:46.07 | seanbright | that's a dumb idea |
| 03:46.28 | seanbright | bobnormal: there are plenty of boilerplate examples out there |
| 03:46.35 | seanbright | bobnormal: i'm just telling you what i have done that works |
| 03:46.35 | mosty | app_queue is a pain to use, in my experience |
| 03:46.58 | bobnormal | seanbright: ok, much appreciated, thanks. could you point me to one of those boilerplate examples? |
| 03:47.00 | seanbright | mosty: to each their own, then. i've had 0 problems with it. |
| 03:47.11 | seanbright | bobnormal: voip-info.org? |
| 03:47.46 | bobnormal | i had some reservations about app_queue in that i need to modify/reload the queues conf to add/remove users, plus it might be annoying for my operators to have to reject a call to 'opt out' of the queue for a few minutes if they need a break |
| 03:48.11 | mosty | seanbright, ideally i would like to rewrite app_queue, but i don't have enough time |
| 03:48.12 | bobnormal | i can see the value in integrating a button in the web interface for them to achieve this more quickly |
| 03:48.16 | seanbright | bobnormal: you can use AMI to add and remove queue members in realtime |
| 03:48.35 | mosty | bobnormal, you can use realtime queues and realtime queue members |
| 03:48.45 | seanbright | bobnormal: (don't use realtim) |
| 03:48.47 | seanbright | heh |
| 03:49.08 | bobnormal | seanbright: why do you think realtime queues are a bad idea? |
| 03:49.18 | seanbright | bobnormal: mosty will answer the rest of your questions, sorry i couldn't help you. |
| 03:49.56 | mosty | realtime in general is a bit of a mess imo, but i find that queues and queue members work ok |
| 03:50.39 | mosty | the benefit is that it's trivial to write code that modifies the queues and their members, for example from a website |
| 03:50.42 | bobnormal | ok. i only have TFOT2 as an AMI reference |
| 03:50.47 | bobnormal | are there any other docs you can recommend? |
| 03:51.33 | seanbright | bobnormal: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+manager+API |
| 03:51.36 | mosty | the wiki |
| 03:51.59 | bobnormal | ok cheers guys |
| 03:52.07 | bobnormal | i'll get stuck in to that now and come back if i have issues |
| 03:52.17 | bobnormal | all help much appreciated! |
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| 03:52.35 | seanbright | no problem |
| 03:52.47 | bobnormal | one more thing, have you guys tried 'adhearsion'? |
| 03:53.19 | seanbright | bobnormal: i have not. |
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| 04:05.58 | ManxPower | Um, the docs directory of the asterisk source code is the correct reference for manager stuff. |
| 04:07.42 | jameswf-home | ~idk |
| 04:09.34 | grandpapadot | [i]nvalid [d]ealer [k]ing? |
| 04:10.16 | Wayhigh | is there a howto anywhere on getting peerings for free calling? :P |
| 04:11.36 | bobnormal | ManxPower: cheers |
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| 04:16.07 | jameswf-home | bwahaha |
| 04:16.34 | Hyphenex | I'm logging into a SIP server over the internet (from behind a NAT). How would I go about doing this if my phone does not support STUN? |
| 04:16.59 | jameswf-home | ~taze |
| 04:17.16 | Hyphenex | taze? |
| 04:17.31 | jameswf-home | ~taze is <reply> DON'T TAZE ME BRO |
| 04:17.32 | jbot | okay, jameswf-home |
| 04:17.37 | jameswf-home | ~taze |
| 04:17.38 | jbot | DON'T TAZE ME BRO |
| 04:17.46 | jameswf-home | ~heh |
| 04:17.47 | jbot | heh |
| 04:17.53 | TJNII | ~nat |
| 04:17.54 | jbot | [nat] Network Address Translation Usable in Asterisk sip.conf file with externip, localnet, and localmask setup properly. See docs. |
| 04:17.58 | TJNII | Hyphenex: ^ |
| 04:18.25 | Hyphenex | actually... I'm trying to get my phone working with Free world dialup first before I move onto asterisk |
| 04:18.34 | Hyphenex | I've even set it behind a DMZ and no luck :( |
| 04:19.20 | TJNII | Hyphenex: Getting your phone to connect to your * box will probably be easier because of no NAT and the debug console |
| 04:19.22 | bobnormal | is there an easy way to authenticate incoming SIP registrations against mysql? |
| 04:19.50 | bobnormal | i've got the right event showing in the AMI already (to generate a web-platform event), but the only identifier is the sip user |
| 04:19.51 | jameswf-home | Hyphenex: is it a netgear |
| 04:19.55 | bobnormal | managing sip users manually will be a pain |
| 04:20.12 | Hyphenex | jameswf-home: Nope, an an Avaya IP phone |
| 04:20.13 | TJNII | bobnormal: I think there are scripts for that. |
| 04:20.58 | jameswf-home | no your router |
| 04:20.59 | TJNII | Hyphenex: be carefull, I know a couple people that got Avaya phones thinking they were SIP and found out they really wern't. |
| 04:21.29 | TJNII | One now has a nice box of bricks he can't use. |
| 04:21.51 | Hyphenex | TJNII: I've got SIP firmware on it now, it can register and everything fine, it's just that when I dial the call back on Free World Dialup for example, I can't hear anything |
| 04:22.21 | TJNII | Fair enough. |
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| 04:32.22 | mosty | Hyphenex, can you run a packet trace on your router/somewhere in the middle to see what's going where? |
| 04:32.36 | jameswf-home | Hyphenex: what brand router |
| 04:32.46 | Hyphenex | Just a crappy little D-Link router |
| 04:33.31 | jameswf-home | Hyphenex: cheap routers suck at nat and SPI will also bork sip |
| 04:33.53 | Hyphenex | jameswf-home: hmmmm |
| 04:34.00 | bobnormal | tjnii: it seems the real answer to my question was to use 'ARA' (asterisk realtime architecture) to move /etc/asterisk/ config files in to a relational DB |
| 04:34.02 | Hyphenex | what to do then? |
| 04:34.14 | jameswf-home | check for firmware update |
| 04:34.20 | bobnormal | ahh hes gone |
| 04:34.33 | bobnormal | drmessano: learn :) its not hard |
| 04:34.35 | mosty | bobnormal, beware of the restrictions on some realtime entities, eg no sip nat keepalives |
| 04:34.43 | Hyphenex | could one of you give me an account on a public Asterisk server so we could trace down the problem there? |
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| 04:35.01 | bobnormal | mosty: are the full set of restrictions documented somewhere? |
| 04:35.04 | mosty | Hyphenex, that won't help |
| 04:35.13 | mosty | bobnormal, not that i know of |
| 04:35.33 | Hyphenex | mosty: Why wouldn't that help? I could check if it's dialing a number, check if audio is one way, or not at all |
| 04:35.40 | bobnormal | mosty: i use a second asterisk box with IAX trunking as a NAT workaround anyway |
| 04:35.51 | bobnormal | mosty: ie: my gateway runs asterisk :) |
| 04:36.56 | mosty | bobnormal, i recommend that you keep as much as possible in standard config files (maybe produced from a db script), and only have specific things as realtime, that you know work well |
| 04:37.19 | mosty | Hyphenex, it's more important that you check what's going on at your end |
| 04:37.26 | bobnormal | mosty: the only thing i need is the sip configuration, since i want to manage user accounts for operators using my existing web framework |
| 04:37.38 | Hyphenex | mosty: I don't think I can do that though |
| 04:37.58 | Hyphenex | what would the possible causes of not hearing any audio, could that be because of a lack of STUN? |
| 04:38.17 | mosty | bobnormal, look at ajam |
| 04:38.26 | jameswf-home | on the TV show kung foo how do they equate david caridinr to asian |
| 04:38.45 | jameswf-home | Hyphenex: its likely RTP |
| 04:38.46 | mosty | Hyphenex, most likely a nat issue, combined with a misconfiguration on your end |
| 04:38.49 | jameswf-home | ~rtp |
| 04:38.50 | jbot | rtp is, like, The Internet-standard protocol for the transport of real-time data, including audio and video. RTP is used in virtually all voice-over-IP architectures, for videoconferencing, media-on-demand, and other applications. A thin protocol, it supports content identification, timing reconstruction, and detection of lost packets. |
| 04:39.36 | Hyphenex | jameswf-home: could that be these lines I commented out? ## SET RTCPMON "fwdnat.pulver.com" |
| 04:39.37 | Hyphenex | ## SET RTCPMONPORT "5082" |
| 04:40.05 | jameswf-home | idunno try it |
| 04:40.35 | jameswf-home | ~try |
| 04:40.35 | jbot | Try not. Do. Or do not. There is no try. |
| 04:40.44 | Hyphenex | ## is a comment |
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| 04:42.21 | b1ch0 | ZT_CHANCONFIG failed on channel 1: No such device or address (6) error during Yeastar card installation |
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| 04:43.54 | iPod-nano | Does Asterisk Win32 support MP3Player? |
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| 04:45.22 | jameswf-home | i need haircut I look like a hippy |
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| 04:47.02 | Hyphenex | Anybody here have there Asterisk configured with Free world dialup? |
| 04:47.37 | jameswf-home | Hyphenex: did you look @ voipinfo |
| 04:47.45 | Hyphenex | Yep :) |
| 04:47.48 | Hyphenex | had a good look there |
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| 04:56.02 | Docfxit | With a softphone what conf file in Asterisk specifies what ports to use? |
| 04:56.28 | iPod-nano | Does anyone know how to play MP3s under Windows/ |
| 04:57.23 | drmessano | Uh |
| 04:57.27 | drmessano | Wrong channel? |
| 04:57.31 | drmessano | try #ipod |
| 04:58.34 | jameswf-home | try #windows-didnt-pay-lucent-license-fees |
| 05:01.37 | jameswf-home | [Error] #windows-didnt-pay-lucent-license-fees is currently unavailable. |
| 05:03.05 | drmessano | hah |
| 05:03.27 | drmessano | Anyone have app_flite working under 1.6? |
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| 05:10.07 | jameswf-home | drmessano: file: said your using okld shizzo |
| 05:10.14 | jameswf-home | *old |
| 05:10.44 | drmessano | heh |
| 05:11.38 | jameswf-home | we were originating 8 calls a second on te via processor that thing hates us |
| 05:12.02 | jameswf-home | we will evntualy smoke it |
| 05:13.23 | J4k3 | wtfbbq |
| 05:13.25 | J4k3 | which via chip? |
| 05:13.28 | J4k3 | c3 or c7? |
| 05:13.39 | J4k3 | c7's really just a downclocked modernized duron |
| 05:14.32 | jameswf-home | I think c7 its the 199 wal-mart special |
| 05:17.06 | J4k3 | ahh nice |
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| 05:28.15 | drmessano | Guess he got his MP3s working |
| 05:28.24 | J4k3 | hah |
| 05:28.33 | J4k3 | I gotta move this server |
| 05:28.54 | drmessano | Not quite effin sure why in the Sam-shit he came here for info on MP3s |
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| 05:35.32 | drmessano | Wayhigh is starting up MouseTel |
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| 05:42.28 | coppice | drmessano: have you found any supporting evidence that PAP2Ts support T.38? |
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| 05:44.49 | jameswf-home | PAP is the worse name you could give a product |
| 05:45.09 | drmessano | Other than dozens of user posts |
| 05:45.34 | drmessano | and lots of sites selling them as having T.38 support |
| 05:45.43 | drmessano | Hmm.. |
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| 05:48.07 | coppice | i'll see your "random guy on a forum" and raise you the manual, the release notes for the latest firmware, and nobody being able to find T.38 anywhere in the config menus |
| 05:48.16 | Wayhigh | anyone here using enum or dundi? |
| 05:49.11 | Wayhigh | drmessano: dude.. I'm totally starting up mega mouse killa zone |
| 05:49.47 | coppice | there is a good reason why you found that guy on the forum in .au saying it does T.38. Half the other T.38 on PAP2T refererences you can find in a Google search in some way reference him |
| 05:50.08 | drmessano | Your argument is weak |
| 05:50.10 | Wayhigh | brb while I get peanut butter, 4 more traps, cheese and wasabi peas |
| 05:50.29 | drmessano | What you are basically telling me is |
| 05:50.45 | Corydon76-dig | Wayhigh: mix boric acid and confectioner's sugar |
| 05:50.59 | Corydon76-dig | Ultimate pest cocktail |
| 05:51.00 | drmessano | There's quite a few stores selling PAP2T's as having T.38 falsely |
| 05:51.09 | drmessano | Isn't that fraud? |
| 05:51.42 | coppice | can you find a store doing that? |
| 05:51.46 | jameswf-home | coppice: http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C2&childpagename=US%2FLayout&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper&cid=1146582252412 |
| 05:51.52 | terracon | there's 2 versions of pap2t's from what I see |
| 05:52.03 | jameswf-home | data sheet says does fax |
| 05:52.05 | coppice | I am genuinely interested. I've spent hours with these things |
| 05:52.09 | terracon | I was lookint at them earlier |
| 05:52.40 | coppice | its does not say it does T.38, though |
| 05:53.42 | coppice | actually, there are numerous ATA which specifically say they do T.38, when they don't. The linksys is straightforward, though. they make no claim to support T.38 |
| 05:54.01 | drmessano | The PAP2T firmware from v3.3 and above adds T.38 support |
| 05:54.16 | terracon | the Linksys SPA2102-NA do and the SPA3102-NA |
| 05:54.23 | drmessano | the Data sheet is spec'ed on the original release, which was on 3.0 firmware |
| 05:54.28 | coppice | drmessano: can you point me at anything supporting that? |
| 05:54.44 | drmessano | http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C2&childpagename=US%2FLayout&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper&cid=1146582252412 |
| 05:54.49 | coppice | the latest downloadable firmware doesn't seem to support it |
| 05:55.16 | coppice | and where does that say anything about T.38? |
| 05:56.19 | terracon | Linksys SPA2102-NA (router, 2 FXS, dual G.729, T.38) |
| 05:56.20 | drmessano | All over the docs |
| 05:56.24 | coppice | ah,. yes. the release notes do say T.38. well, nobody seems to have that in their PAP2T. I've worked with a few of them |
| 05:56.36 | terracon | Linksys SPA3102-NA (router, 1 FXS, 1 FXO, dual G.729, T.38) |
| 05:56.43 | drmessano | Why cant you just read instead of being so fucking indignant? |
| 05:56.46 | coppice | most of the ones in shops right now still don't have that |
| 05:56.52 | drmessano | The release notes are all over that link |
| 05:58.07 | coppice | I wasn't indignant. I just asked for solid evidence, instead of random guys on forums. maybe those release notes have been updated, as a couple of months ago there was no mention of T.38 in anything I could find on the linksys site. |
| 05:58.17 | WilliamK | ah the nice T.38 discussions again |
| 05:58.20 | WilliamK | :) |
| 05:58.28 | drmessano | I gave you links to stores selling them and you still ignored it |
| 05:58.28 | jameswf-home | ~t38 |
| 05:58.29 | jbot | methinks t38 is see http://www.brooktrout.com/whitepapers/pdf/fax_over_ip.pdf for a decent overview of how it all works, no, it's not ready yet, we'll let you know. a really lousy spec. a lightweight fighter, also known as the Talon |
| 05:59.07 | WilliamK | the T.38 info has been out for a while - like before the last time I mentioned it and pressed the issue... |
| 05:59.31 | coppice | you didn't reference a store. you referenced a forum note, and some notes on another site. however, even stores mean nothing. I have various boxes which don't have T.38, which explicitly say they do |
| 05:59.49 | drmessano | Yes, actually, I did |
| 06:00.09 | drmessano | WilliamK: I am gonna need a Linksys employee to verify that, and their mom to verify they exist |
| 06:00.19 | coppice | ah, the latest firmware (5.x) doesn't mention T.38. Only the 3.x software says T.38 |
| 06:00.40 | jameswf-home | all linksys employees are in india |
| 06:00.49 | jameswf-home | they cant spell t.38 |
| 06:01.05 | drmessano | You mean D 38? |
| 06:01.08 | drmessano | ha |
| 06:01.13 | coppice | I've had people checking directly with linksys, who have said there is no T.38 support. The PAP2T has been a realy PITA to me |
| 06:02.07 | WilliamK | ok the T.38 support was there for the SPA-2102 before December 2007 - because I made purchases based on it having it from telephonydepot, and then come to find out can't make it work with * |
| 06:02.12 | coppice | is the 5.x firmware for a different version of the hardware? it seems completely different and less capable than the 3,x firmware |
| 06:02.21 | drmessano | No |
| 06:02.34 | drmessano | They probably mention less because there's no point in referring to old news |
| 06:03.00 | jameswf-home | ~linksys |
| 06:03.00 | jbot | linksys is, like, a tool of satan |
| 06:03.20 | jameswf-home | ~gtfoi |
| 06:03.22 | coppice | people are buying boxes today without T.38, though I've no idea how long they have been in stock somewhere |
| 06:04.27 | drmessano | Well, the 3.1.22 FW came out last year sometime, I believe |
| 06:04.31 | WilliamK | and the firmware for the SPA-2102 file date says 9/6/2007 - v5.1.12 - that file has T.38 |
| 06:04.35 | drmessano | and 3.3 was the first to support T.38 |
| 06:04.54 | drmessano | No |
| 06:05.03 | drmessano | 3.1.22 came out in late 06.. geez |
| 06:05.42 | WilliamK | anyway, instead of argueing about dates... when do we get some T.38 action? |
| 06:05.43 | jameswf-home | see t.38 is so 2 years ago get with the now |
| 06:05.44 | coppice | there was T.38 for the 2102 a long time ago, but it never worked properly and seemed to be withdrawn |
| 06:06.43 | coppice | the 2102 was actually launched as DOES T.38 (*) |
| 06:06.44 | coppice | * = feature to added some time later |
| 06:07.11 | coppice | and the "to be added some time later" was very very small print |
| 06:08.23 | Wayhigh | operation mouse killa is a go |
| 06:08.47 | Wayhigh | ~wayhigh |
| 06:08.48 | jbot | Asterisk mouse WAZ in his 1U, eatinz his thermo ribbons.. HE R MOUSEKILLA |
| 06:09.49 | drmessano | http://www.makememinimal.com/2008/instrucciones-para-cuidar-un-bebe/ |
| 06:13.12 | coppice | so, it looks like I need to get someone to upgrade their PAP2T and see if their T.38 works. considering their history, there might well be good reason why its not in the manual. :-) |
| 06:13.47 | drmessano | I'm sure it will work about 80% |
| 06:13.57 | drmessano | But there's maybe a 30% chance of that |
| 06:14.10 | coppice | the stuff they did for the 2102 a long time ago was total rubbish |
| 06:14.29 | drmessano | Actually, the linksys boxes are nice.. but I think T.38 is just a %$%#$ to begin with |
| 06:15.08 | drmessano | Can't blame someone for failing to implement a partially working excuse for a band-aid to a bigger issue |
| 06:16.42 | Wayhigh | tell me how you really feel |
| 06:16.52 | coppice | the chinese stuff for the PAP2T still doesn't mention T.38 |
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| 06:17.31 | coppice | and the chinese site has no updated software available :-\ |
| 06:18.00 | AJaymn | i have threewaycalling=yes in zapata.conf yet 3 way isnt working.. Anywhere else you have to turn it on? |
| 06:18.32 | drmessano | Try buying her flowers |
| 06:18.38 | drmessano | She'll be more receptive |
| 06:18.41 | drmessano | oh.. wait |
| 06:20.37 | Wayhigh | drmessano: that only works if you have externalhost= set so you're not getting any localnets |
| 06:21.14 | drmessano | heh |
| 06:25.05 | bobnormal | coppice: im australian but i live in china and read chinese, let me know if you want me to write a mail or something n your behalf |
| 06:25.42 | coppice | 我識看中文 |
| 06:25.46 | Wayhigh | bob: you got hit by backflow didn't you? |
| 06:25.57 | bobnormal | ok :) |
| 06:26.06 | bobnormal | Wayhigh: backflow? |
| 06:26.44 | Wayhigh | yeah.. that's when you have negative pressure flowing one way so a separate pipe flows the opposite direction.. |
| 06:27.00 | Wayhigh | as in.. so many chinese in australia that you ended up going the opposite direction |
| 06:31.21 | drmessano | YAY |
| 06:31.22 | drmessano | Wine 0.9.56 Released |
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| 06:31.31 | drmessano | Only 197 more releases to 1.0 |
| 06:33.35 | coppice | drmessano: checking by a production date marker, I think the PAP2Ts must have still been leaving the factory without T.38 support up to at least the end of 2007. have you seen one come out of the box with the appropriate firmware? |
| 06:34.55 | drmessano | Couldnt tell you.. |
| 06:35.31 | drmessano | I've had my hands on a few, never touched the T.38 stuff |
| 06:37.21 | J4k3 | drmessano: no they'll go to 0.10.xx |
| 06:37.29 | J4k3 | ;) |
| 06:38.02 | drmessano | coppice, I found some of those unreliable posts you are so not a fan of, point to T.38 on the PAP2T from way back in 06 |
| 06:38.37 | AJaymn | is Zaptel backwards compatable to older asterisk? or do they have to be matched up? |
| 06:39.28 | mosty | zaptel 1.4 works with asterisk 1.2 |
| 06:40.15 | AJaymn | mosty any problems with conference room with 1.2 and zap1.4? I dont have a digium card so im using USB timing |
| 06:40.54 | coppice | drmessano: people are really really sleazy about what they claim in a lot of VoIP stuff. much of it *is* pure fraud, and much is "follow the microscopic print". most 2102 buyers bought them thinking they did T.38 |
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| 06:41.58 | drmessano | I understand that, but it's not hard to sift through available user data and arrive at conclusions that are correct |
| 06:42.06 | mosty | AJaymn, i haven't tried it |
| 06:42.30 | coppice | well, if i look at all the latest material, and call linksys, the conclusion is no T.38 support |
| 06:42.57 | coppice | and they may be saying that, because its actually in a similar state to the 2102, and is not really usable |
| 06:43.38 | drmessano | That's subjective.. Is T.38 usable period? lol |
| 06:44.42 | coppice | T.38 is very usable within certain contexts, but current implementations are generally flaky, and even when done right they will have problems with really poor network paths |
| 06:45.27 | coppice | if its you to your provider, and maybe T.37 from there on, it can be very usable. I doubt the ATAs are going to gain T.37 support at any point |
| 06:46.02 | drmessano | Might be better to push for users to get a firmware update to "Scan to Email 1.0" |
| 06:46.11 | drmessano | Fax is a waste |
| 06:46.33 | coppice | Fax is growing again because of Sarbanes Oxley. stupid but true |
| 06:48.29 | drmessano | Until Fax machines are required to store incoming faxes for 5 years |
| 06:48.39 | drmessano | Then it will die completely |
| 06:49.25 | coppice | huh? |
| 06:50.03 | drmessano | Archving faxes from fax machines will drive the cost up exponentially |
| 06:50.20 | drmessano | Then fax really won't be worth it |
| 06:52.23 | coppice | people will currently spend a *lot* if they feel it helps with sarbanes oxley compliance. lots of lawyer stuff only takes place by fax, too. that could all change. a postal stike in the UK was the impetus for most UK businesses to buy their first FAX machine, and some similar foulup could precipitate the end of FAX. cost is unlikely to, as the remaining use of fax is considered high value |
| 06:52.57 | drmessano | heh |
| 06:53.04 | drmessano | Do you work in corporate america? |
| 06:53.48 | drmessano | Trust me.. if the price of faxing were to even double due to some retention need, fax would be out |
| 06:54.10 | coppice | nope. i just look at what they do. I developed my fax stuff to ease the transition to all IP networks, but I now see people are gonna keep using it, until something actually kicks them hard to stop them |
| 06:54.41 | coppice | have you seen the amount of additional spending being sanctioned because of sarbanes oxley? |
| 06:54.41 | drmessano | The price of paper and an increased cost for faxing would kill it.. even the paper cost is almost enough |
| 06:54.48 | drmessano | yes, I have spent some of it |
| 06:55.17 | drmessano | I am well aware of the cost of SOX and what changes it's brought.. I live them every day |
| 06:55.56 | coppice | well, they are all stupid, so a sharp kick will change the whole picture again, but right now its growing fax volumes |
| 06:56.30 | drmessano | I also know that for most SMB's, printing and faxing is a cost they would love to get rid of..but they know they can only cut back so far.. if the cost of faxing went up, it would be gone |
| 06:57.32 | coppice | I think in most small businesses the FAX machine is now a thing in the corner gatehring dust, that they just can't motivate themselves to cut the line for |
| 06:59.15 | coppice | telex was kept alive for a crazy period, because it was very bogusly accepted in court. as soon as a court or two accepted a fax bogusly as a legal document, telex died. telex cost a *lot* more than fax does |
| 06:59.46 | drmessano | Actually, I think medium sized businesses are more likely to get rid of it first.. It's a very real cost to them, and they can afford a $10000 all-in-one to obsolete their faxing.. The small guys having a cheap fax is really no big deal to them, and probably works out ok for their small volume.. |
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| 07:00.16 | drmessano | They would stand to gain if the medium sized businesses pushed fax out of he market and make scan to email more commonplace |
| 07:00.22 | drmessano | It would trickle down from there |
| 07:00.59 | drmessano | I think most small businesses mistakingly think they need fax to look like the big guys, and that scanning to email is too foreign and would be looked at negatively |
| 07:01.00 | coppice | someone aggressively shooting down a bogus fax in court might be fun, too |
| 07:01.33 | drmessano | yeah |
| 07:03.19 | lmadsen | drmessano: sometimes I wonder if you're a bot since you never sleep... |
| 07:03.26 | drmessano | Slowly but surely the value of "DRM for documents" has worked it's way into the concious of decision makers.. At some point, encrypted PDFs sent via email will be the only accepted way of legally transmitting documents electronically |
| 07:03.43 | drmessano | Nah, bots are much smarter and swear less |
| 07:03.52 | lmadsen | :) |
| 07:05.15 | drmessano | This new job will have me getting up at 6am quite a bit, so the night owls can have a drmessano free evening most of the time now :) |
| 07:05.15 | coppice | an ex-boss had been the manager of a telex machine group. he had to appear in court sometimes, to shoot down a bogus telex. the only way he could do this was over formatting details, which indicated the printout could not have come for the machine it was supposed to have. if they crooks had been more careful the court would have accepted the telexes as solid legal evidence, deciding cases of... |
| 07:05.15 | coppice | ...$100m or more |
| 07:05.47 | drmessano | Yet another affirmation of how stupid the legal system is |
| 07:05.48 | drmessano | heh |
| 07:07.14 | coppice | its mostly that experience that shapes my expectations for the future of FAX, since it is now the substitute for telex |
| 07:07.14 | drmessano | Yeah, what it will take is a high profile case, some very well forged faxes, and some expert testifying that faxing is too easy to spoof |
| 07:07.17 | bobnormal | err, so i've got the AMI data for a link event between my operator and a caller, but now i cant tell which queue the caller passed through to get there |
| 07:07.23 | bobnormal | anyone know how i can accomplish this? |
| 07:07.30 | bobnormal | same problem with parsing CDR output |
| 07:08.03 | bobnormal | the only hack i can think of is appending the queue name to the callerID |
| 07:08.29 | bobnormal | but ideally i could find a way to inspect variable state and set it that way, or something else a bit cleaner |
| 07:08.38 | drmessano | Well, the e-mailing of PDFs has pretty much become the norm in most corporations I have dealt with.. Sending anything like contracts or personnel documents via fax is considered crappy at best |
| 07:08.52 | bobnormal | drmessano: its the norm here in china! |
| 07:09.15 | J4k3 | drmessano: fax is dead in my world, has been for at least 10 years now |
| 07:09.22 | drmessano | yeah |
| 07:09.24 | J4k3 | I've been in business since '96, never owned a fax machine |
| 07:09.32 | drmessano | I don't see the upswing |
| 07:09.44 | drmessano | Unless it's in circles I am very unaware of |
| 07:09.45 | J4k3 | fax = see office space |
| 07:09.56 | J4k3 | ~fax |
| 07:09.57 | jbot | Well, apperantly the fax was concieved of by Napoleon Bonaparte. He commissioned a system of devices that could transmit a traced image electrically over telegraph lines to a remote device that would redraw the image identically. |
| 07:10.10 | J4k3 | bonerpart |
| 07:10.12 | bobnormal | napsta! |
| 07:10.20 | drmessano | Most faxing is associated with crappy machines that produce horrible printouts with headers on them |
| 07:10.45 | bobnormal | if you need to do fax, use hylafax + iaxmodem + asterisk, i set it up last week, it's fantastic |
| 07:10.56 | J4k3 | drmessano: and anything better gets tedious at 14.4k :) |
| 07:11.10 | coppice | a lot of these legally acceptable faxes are still on thermal paper that fades to invisible in a couple of years |
| 07:11.15 | drmessano | If you need to do gopher, NCSA Mosaic still runs on XP |
| 07:11.42 | drmessano | ..or one hot trip to the lawyer :) |
| 07:11.46 | coppice | bobnormal: thankyou :-) |
| 07:11.57 | bobnormal | i have to fax contracts to/from thousands of hotels, hylafax is perfect |
| 07:12.03 | bobnormal | very unix-like, very scriptable |
| 07:12.32 | bobnormal | PDF conversion, email-connectivity, customisable cover pages/headers/footers |
| 07:12.43 | bobnormal | its the way to go |
| 07:12.55 | coppice | bobnormal: it will be even better when I can get around to making iaxmodem into sipmodem |
| 07:13.14 | drmessano | "PDF conversion, email-connectivity" <== thats what makes it 2008-able |
| 07:13.15 | bobnormal | coppice: its fine now, i only need localhost connectivity |
| 07:13.36 | mosty | hylafax shows its age, and it's not pretty |
| 07:13.41 | coppice | yeah, but sipmodem will be a lot more flexible in what can talk to it, and will do T.38 as well |
| 07:13.53 | bobnormal | mosty: i like it! |
| 07:14.07 | coppice | hylafax is one of the most robust fax platforms around |
| 07:14.17 | drmessano | This is still like talking about a hot new usenet client |
| 07:14.24 | bobnormal | USENET LIVES |
| 07:14.29 | drmessano | heh |
| 07:14.31 | mosty | coppice, i agree |
| 07:14.31 | coppice | its usually the modems that let it down |
| 07:14.41 | J4k3 | usenet is more active than ever |
| 07:14.49 | drmessano | ..for warez |
| 07:15.00 | J4k3 | because: A> thats where half the fuckin' crappy web-forums get their content |
| 07:15.01 | J4k3 | B> warez |
| 07:15.02 | mosty | i have problems with the core of hylafax, my fax cards work without issue |
| 07:15.08 | coppice | little pools in usenet are very active. comp.dsp, for example |
| 07:15.14 | drmessano | C> Google Groups |
| 07:15.26 | bobnormal | mosty: are you using hylafax+ ? |
| 07:15.33 | coppice | mosty: are youusing hylfax or hylfax+? + is far more reliable |
| 07:15.44 | J4k3 | google groups... lowering the average IQ of usenet one gmail user at a time |
| 07:15.51 | drmessano | LOL |
| 07:16.00 | mosty | coppice, i'm using whatever debian stable has currently |
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| 07:16.33 | coppice | what makes you think its hylafax and not your modem which is troublesome? |
| 07:17.31 | bobnormal | back in '91, i had an acoustic coupled 300 baud modem in original box, perfect condition |
| 07:17.36 | coppice | courier v.everything is one of the worst FAX modems around. nothing USR made ever worked reliably for FAX |
| 07:17.36 | bobnormal | damn parents threw it out |
| 07:17.40 | bobnormal | what a collectors piece |
| 07:17.51 | mosty | coppice, because the modems have nothing to do with the log files becoming corrupted, nor the pdf processing |
| 07:18.19 | mosty | and the send queue is horribly inefficient when the queue is large |
| 07:18.25 | bobnormal | mosty: i use tiff2pdf, not the builtin fax2pdf script |
| 07:18.29 | J4k3 | coppice: heh, further proving things have to be completely back-asswards for fax to work |
| 07:18.33 | J4k3 | deathtofax |
| 07:18.40 | mosty | bobnormal, i do pdf -> fax, not the other way around |
| 07:18.47 | drmessano | J4k3, we should set up fax trunks for PDF to Fax to PDF conversion |
| 07:18.47 | bobnormal | mosty: i do both |
| 07:19.11 | coppice | hylafax queueing is inefficient, but pretty reliable |
| 07:19.21 | mosty | bobnormal, i find that ghostscript barfs on PDF's created by certain applications |
| 07:19.45 | coppice | ghostscript has a lot of issues |
| 07:19.50 | mosty | coppice, i know- i wrote a pre-queueing system to keep the throughput high |
| 07:20.12 | bobnormal | mosty: thats pretty damn cool |
| 07:20.48 | bobnormal | mosty: what are the parameters for real queue entry? |
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| 07:21.39 | mosty | bobnormal, the main paramaters are how low you want the hylafax queue to be when the pre-queue tops it up, how often this is checked, and how many entries to top up with each time |
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| 07:22.17 | coppice | we had hylafax+ and iaxmodem doing 500 concurrent FAXes on a quad core xeon, as a test. that worked OK |
| 07:22.50 | mosty | coppice: you have 500 concurrent lines? |
| 07:23.22 | coppice | no. it was actually 2 boxes talking to each other. one sending 500, and one receiving them |
| 07:23.44 | SteveTotaro | i found that each call take about 5% cpu with hylafax |
| 07:23.45 | mosty | my fax setup is hyalafax with two eicon diva E1 cards |
| 07:23.56 | bobnormal | i just set up a pool of 10, but i see zero cpu load with two concurrent transfers (four iaxmodems + four faxgettys) |
| 07:24.03 | coppice | did the same thing with callweaver doing the faxing internally, too |
| 07:24.04 | SteveTotaro | maybe it is the fax to pdf conversion |
| 07:24.08 | drmessano | So that's 2500% CPU then |
| 07:24.18 | mosty | the main issue is with how many small files hylafax creates when you queue an outgoing fax, and the way it leaves lots of them around afterwards |
| 07:24.26 | SteveTotaro | drmessano, do you ever sleep? |
| 07:24.26 | drmessano | My box only goes to 120% |
| 07:24.37 | drmessano | Why does everyone keep asking me that |
| 07:24.38 | drmessano | FINE |
| 07:24.43 | drmessano | SCREW U GUYS |
| 07:24.54 | drmessano | Ok, no, sorry |
| 07:25.04 | SteveTotaro | tired? |
| 07:25.10 | drmessano | Naah |
| 07:25.16 | coppice | drmessano: its the people who never sleep, and see you here all the time that ask |
| 07:25.27 | drmessano | That's true |
| 07:25.29 | SteveTotaro | drmessano: is an AI bot |
| 07:25.40 | drmessano | Nah.. As I told lmadsen |
| 07:25.50 | drmessano | Bots swear less and are much smarter than I |
| 07:25.55 | J4k3 | yeah |
| 07:25.56 | J4k3 | haha |
| 07:26.04 | J4k3 | drmessano is quite human, obviously |
| 07:26.12 | drmessano | I'm just a foul mouthed dumbass |
| 07:26.20 | J4k3 | birdface |
| 07:26.22 | drmessano | <--- Not a bot |
| 07:26.25 | J4k3 | fowl mouth |
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| 07:26.53 | drmessano | Correction |
| 07:27.09 | drmessano | I'm just a foul mouthed dumbass who has chan_mobile working and feels all bluetooth cool |
| 07:27.19 | J4k3 | haha |
| 07:27.27 | J4k3 | asterisk<>cell or asterisk<>earpiece? |
| 07:27.41 | drmessano | Asterisk <> Cell |
| 07:27.44 | J4k3 | niiiice |
| 07:27.48 | J4k3 | what phone/provider? |
| 07:27.53 | drmessano | I was showing my wife how I can take my cell calls on my desk phone |
| 07:27.59 | bobnormal | drmessano: i just bought a bluetooth headset yesterday, it was the first i've had in like 2 years, its jabra (thinking i'd get a recognised brand), but it sux. sound quality is TERRIBLE. |
| 07:28.04 | drmessano | Verizon, Samsung A930 |
| 07:28.07 | J4k3 | add a family talk line, and dedicate it to * |
| 07:28.10 | J4k3 | woah, nice |
| 07:28.16 | J4k3 | can you make calls? |
| 07:28.20 | drmessano | Yes |
| 07:28.22 | bobnormal | drmessano: do you know if there are higher-rate codecs in use by some bluetooth headsets, or are they all crap? |
| 07:28.27 | J4k3 | oooh |
| 07:28.35 | drmessano | I dunno about the headsets |
| 07:29.12 | bobnormal | i guess if you're only doing GSM it doesnt matter |
| 07:29.38 | J4k3 | the problem is the earpiece itself needs to speak the same protocol as the phone's codec, so theres no nasty resample. |
| 07:29.41 | bobnormal | i was evaluating the headset for incoming PSTN lines for a call center im setting up, decided to just get wired ones instead |
| 07:29.49 | drmessano | J4k3.. I can literally bring my phone home, plug it in on the nightstand in the bedroom and have all my calls ring into my office phone, and use it as an outbound as well |
| 07:29.52 | J4k3 | I have a hard enough time understanding gsm<->cdma calls |
| 07:30.11 | bobnormal | whats the default cdma codec? |
| 07:30.16 | J4k3 | drmessano: free n&w ftw |
| 07:30.36 | J4k3 | drmessano: and you've got a true GPS-equipped e911 voip setup ;) |
| 07:30.38 | drmessano | Its very slick how it refreshes every 30 seconds and just picks up my phone when I get inside the house |
| 07:30.49 | drmessano | yes |
| 07:30.56 | drmessano | Actually, I didnt even think of that |
| 07:31.02 | drmessano | But I now have 911 |
| 07:31.11 | J4k3 | yep, better 911 than a landline IMHO |
| 07:31.27 | J4k3 | lat/long > nonsense address, especially out here in the sticks |
| 07:31.29 | drmessano | yes.. no reliance on shitty phone records |
| 07:31.31 | drmessano | yep |
| 07:31.32 | J4k3 | so many 911 maps are flat wrong |
| 07:32.11 | J4k3 | I wish shipping companies would abandon street addresses and go to a lat/long setup |
| 07:32.26 | J4k3 | well, maybe not in the city |
| 07:32.35 | J4k3 | but for anything beyond suburbia |
| 07:32.51 | mosty | you could launch package missiles :) |
| 07:32.58 | drmessano | My dad works for the Post Office... trust me, you don't want THEM going by lat/long at least |
| 07:33.15 | drmessano | They would bring their own missiles to work |
| 07:33.17 | J4k3 | USPS works suprisingly well out here |
| 07:33.30 | drmessano | USPS is great |
| 07:33.39 | drmessano | Especially when you pwn the mailman |
| 07:33.44 | J4k3 | so many shippers won't do usps or usps isn't price efficient |
| 07:34.12 | drmessano | Their too lazy to get proper postage.. damn lazy flat rate SOB's |
| 07:34.13 | J4k3 | so... I get to deal with losers like UPS |
| 07:34.19 | J4k3 | our boys in brown deserve a turd in their shirt. |
| 07:34.23 | drmessano | "That's gonna be $8.. for a coin: |
| 07:34.25 | drmessano | "That's gonna be $8.. for a coin" |
| 07:34.33 | J4k3 | yeah |
| 07:34.35 | J4k3 | exactly |
| 07:34.36 | drmessano | Fedex is the worst |
| 07:34.41 | drmessano | Those guys |
| 07:34.46 | drmessano | First against the wall |
| 07:34.53 | J4k3 | fedex can usually find my house, but the whole company otherwise is screwed. |
| 07:35.05 | J4k3 | fedex has screwed up handling deliveries and pickups here so many times |
| 07:35.17 | drmessano | My wife ordered a $60 cheesecake from NYC for my birthday... |
| 07:35.22 | J4k3 | one time the damned driver dropped off a 'must sign' package, after we refused it (and he didn't get a signature) |
| 07:35.24 | bobnormal | fedex let me send a laptop in to china knowing full-well i'd be busted for more money than the whole thing was worth in customs duties |
| 07:35.24 | drmessano | It ws shipped via Fedex |
| 07:35.38 | J4k3 | fedex rapes on international shipment |
| 07:35.42 | drmessano | Fedex will NOT Leave packages at apartments |
| 07:35.59 | bobnormal | fedex uses asterisk! <-- trying to stay on-topic |
| 07:36.06 | drmessano | Even if it's a duplex with a balcony with area out of clear sight |
| 07:36.21 | J4k3 | fedex will screw up delivering your voip phones, cards, and atas |
| 07:36.28 | drmessano | So they send this thing out for delivery, make ONE drop off attempt |
| 07:36.48 | drmessano | which was 4 1/2 hours past their 10am guarantee |
| 07:37.02 | J4k3 | ups last week misrouted a 2 day shipping delivery (+1 day) then decided to not deliver it the next day (+1) |
| 07:37.06 | drmessano | and then tell me my frozen cheesecake in a box is going to be delivered the next day, "Sorry" |
| 07:37.12 | J4k3 | so 2 day overpriced shipping turned into 4 days of pissed-off shipping |
| 07:37.28 | drmessano | I came fucking unwound.. and got my cheesecake.. |
| 07:37.40 | J4k3 | drmessano: "I suggest you cram it up your ass, cuz its insured" |
| 07:37.47 | drmessano | heh |
| 07:38.06 | drmessano | Oh I gave her about 30 mins of full ear drmessano |
| 07:38.33 | drmessano | and i'll be damned if they didnt turn a truck around and meet me at my place about 45 mins later |
| 07:38.48 | drmessano | Ridiculous |
| 07:38.55 | drmessano | UPS and USPS are 10x better |
| 07:39.37 | bobnormal | is there a console command to see the callerid of the channel currently connected to a particular SIP user? or do i have to use AMI? |
| 07:40.02 | drmessano | Not surprising that Fedex bought Kinkos.. a company living in the stone age buying a company that deals with faxing and copying paper |
| 07:40.02 | mosty | bobnormal, try "show channels verbose" ? |
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| 07:41.44 | bobnormal | mosty: cheers, actually core show channels was enough. thanks :) i was going nuts trying to get it out of 'sip show...' |
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| 07:45.10 | bobnormal | mosty: actually it didnt get caller id, only the sip peer name, did need verbose. |
| 07:48.36 | drmessano | wow |
| 07:48.53 | drmessano | Asterisk is worth $9.5 million |
| 07:49.09 | drmessano | Well no |
| 07:49.28 | drmessano | It's estimated cost to produce is $9.5 million, according to ohloh |
| 07:50.25 | J4k3 | asterisk has to be worth a hell of a lot more than $9.5M |
| 07:50.34 | drmessano | Yeah |
| 07:50.49 | drmessano | More than effin Yahoo |
| 07:51.12 | drmessano | Asterisk: Less Soccer Moms than Yahoo, but a lot more action |
| 07:51.57 | drmessano | YahooMom37: Wanna see my tattoo |
| 07:52.07 | drmessano | AsteriskGuy42: Wanna see my dialplan |
| 07:52.11 | J4k3 | milfy fun |
| 07:52.37 | drmessano | Asterisk is more likely to cause a divorce, however |
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| 07:55.12 | Hyphenex | Hey guys. Can asterisk be used as a SIP client & server at the same time (to act as a gateway to services such as Gizmo and PSTN termination services and what not) |
| 07:55.24 | drmessano | yes |
| 07:55.30 | Hyphenex | now that is sooo cool |
| 07:55.40 | drmessano | Yep.. Asterisk rocks |
| 07:55.44 | Hyphenex | what about if I've got a few CISCO phones, does it play nice with them? |
| 07:55.55 | Hyphenex | (that don't support SIP) |
| 07:56.00 | drmessano | See, why you wanna start trouble? |
| 07:56.06 | drmessano | heh |
| 07:56.12 | drmessano | Some have made them work |
| 07:57.47 | Hyphenex | awesome, I've got a lot of work to do then :) |
| 07:58.13 | J4k3 | hell, it can route calls between your cellphone and your 1920's table phone. |
| 07:58.18 | J4k3 | (given the right hardware in between) |
| 07:58.49 | drmessano | yep |
| 07:58.55 | J4k3 | does * support pulse dialing and/or is there any pulse-dial friendly hardware out there? |
| 07:59.02 | drmessano | chan_mobile... the new hotness |
| 07:59.04 | drmessano | Hmm |
| 08:01.02 | drmessano | http://voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk+zaptel+pulse+dialing |
| 08:02.39 | J4k3 | woo |
| 08:02.40 | J4k3 | haha |
| 08:03.15 | drmessano | Yep |
| 08:03.28 | drmessano | Rage Against the Appliance |
| 08:04.04 | J4k3 | psk31 over telephone! |
| 08:04.33 | drmessano | Actually.. thats mode mode that would freaking work |
| 08:05.22 | drmessano | http://www.velociraptors.info |
| 08:05.39 | J4k3 | I read this really interesting proposal about a modernized DSL plant doing 'dialup dsl' |
| 08:05.47 | J4k3 | essentially programming your ADSL via dtmf |
| 08:05.55 | drmessano | hmm |
| 08:06.17 | J4k3 | the ability for, say, your employer to get a frame or atm line in from the telco, and you basically dial up a pvc to it |
| 08:06.27 | J4k3 | same for your ISP |
| 08:06.48 | J4k3 | dial-a-pvc |
| 08:06.55 | drmessano | There's no end to getting people out of the loop |
| 08:07.22 | J4k3 | well, its a good thing |
| 08:07.36 | J4k3 | hell, you could multihome over your residential phoneline, technically |
| 08:07.41 | J4k3 | since you could dial up two ISP PVCs |
| 08:07.48 | J4k3 | and you'd just pay for the loop and pvc |
| 08:08.27 | J4k3 | err pvc(s) :) |
| 08:08.47 | J4k3 | who/how you got internet would be up to you, like the dialup days |
| 08:09.38 | drmessano | I wonder how hard it would be to implement the following: |
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| 08:10.08 | drmessano | GPS attached to PBX.. I make a 911 call and it sends the lat/long from the GPS to the 911 center |
| 08:10.28 | J4k3 | *technically* it'd be really easy if everyone wanted to play right. |
| 08:10.32 | drmessano | Yes |
| 08:10.44 | J4k3 | plus an attached GPS has its advantages |
| 08:10.46 | J4k3 | like sync'd time |
| 08:10.57 | drmessano | Barring it's not a POS |
| 08:11.13 | drmessano | I've tried a POS GPS before with timesync.. not pretty lol |
| 08:11.18 | J4k3 | even some pos gps's can be dropped into time-only mode |
| 08:11.19 | drmessano | But yeah |
| 08:11.23 | J4k3 | just have to be careful what you buy |
| 08:11.39 | drmessano | Yeah |
| 08:11.54 | J4k3 | but yeah, you can't use a GPS for 'religious' time operations |
| 08:12.07 | J4k3 | if you need accuracy, you gotta open up the wallet wider |
| 08:12.38 | drmessano | We use MasterClock stuff |
| 08:12.42 | drmessano | It's pretty decent |
| 08:12.45 | drmessano | Pricey |
| 08:14.03 | drmessano | But even a $99 GPS would rock for the location bit |
| 08:15.17 | drmessano | I need any easy way to manipulate a parallel port inside Asterisk |
| 08:15.43 | drmessano | Could set up something in the dialplan to shoot off an APRS emergency beacon when 911 is dialed |
| 08:16.11 | mkl1525 | Hi, trying to get realtime extensions to work, have added "extensions => mysql,asterisk,extensions_conf" to extconfig and have a "switch => Realtime/@extensions_conf" statement in extensions.conf. when I do a show dialplan I see in the "from-sip" context a "Alt. Switch => 'Realtime/@extensions_conf' [pbx_config]", database is at http://pastebin.com/m6e3711b. When dialing to 301 I don't get any output with verbose/debug 10 and my phone returns a "Not |
| 08:16.44 | drmessano | You should have pastebin'ed your question |
| 08:19.17 | *** join/#asterisk AJayMN (n=myemail@71-82-218-158.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com) |
| 08:19.26 | AJayMN | there a way to check what Zaptel version is loaded? |
| 08:20.48 | drmessano | zap show version |
| 08:21.18 | *** join/#asterisk fskrotzki (n=fskrotzk@cpe-74-74-245-250.rochester.res.rr.com) |
| 08:21.44 | *** join/#asterisk nighty^ (n=nighty@p2170-adsau16honb13-acca.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp) |
| 08:21.59 | AJayMN | that doesnt work |
| 08:23.42 | J4k3 | haha drmessano, APRS emergency beacon |
| 08:23.47 | J4k3 | set off one of those plane crash beacons |
| 08:23.50 | J4k3 | the 406 mhz ones (iirc) |
| 08:23.57 | J4k3 | ELT, yeah |
| 08:24.29 | J4k3 | screw onstar, I got APRS! |
| 08:24.43 | drmessano | lol |
| 08:24.48 | J4k3 | thats one thing I could see being logically useful... an airbag deployment elt-style transmitter |
| 08:25.06 | J4k3 | cuz, well, airbags these days don't deploy on their own |
| 08:25.13 | J4k3 | it takes a hell of an impact |
| 08:25.37 | drmessano | 121.500 FTW |
| 08:25.45 | J4k3 | haha |
| 08:26.24 | J4k3 | hope you got your radiotelephone operators permit! |
| 08:26.29 | drmessano | Airbags.. Making your dash rattle more since 1987 |
| 08:26.43 | J4k3 | maybe thats whats rattling in my dash |
| 08:26.55 | J4k3 | pretty much anytime I get my truck over 85 the dash starts resonating like crazy |
| 08:27.02 | J4k3 | 100+ is quite annoying |
| 08:27.11 | J4k3 | well, in 4th gear |
| 08:27.14 | J4k3 | doesn't do it in 5th |
| 08:27.35 | drmessano | I have an airbag assembly rattling in my vehicle.. started right after I pulled the headliner down to do the radio install |
| 08:28.01 | J4k3 | I'm pondering adding some N-female bulkheads to the roof of my SUV |
| 08:28.16 | J4k3 | and using sealer caps |
| 08:28.28 | J4k3 | just wish I could figure out a locking mechanism for all that |
| 08:28.35 | J4k3 | maybe a backnut to put pressure against the cap |
| 08:29.15 | drmessano | You use proper antenna mounts and the caps have rubber washers in them |
| 08:29.15 | J4k3 | I wouldn't be attaching antennas directly, when using antennas I use a rack ontop of my roof rack |
| 08:29.15 | drmessano | Yeah |
| 08:29.19 | drmessano | Hmm |
| 08:29.31 | J4k3 | yeah the N-Fs I use are sealed |
| 08:29.45 | J4k3 | they'd be practically invisable, tucked behind the roof rack rails |
| 08:29.48 | drmessano | Keeping them that way is another thing |
| 08:29.55 | J4k3 | yeah |
| 08:30.22 | J4k3 | well, N's seal fairly well, if I make sure it can reasonably vent inside it shouldn't pull water past the seal |
| 08:30.23 | drmessano | We use bulkhead SO-239s on our vans, and damn |
| 08:30.27 | drmessano | They get worn the hell out |
| 08:30.52 | drmessano | Of course, they're not monkeyproof |
| 08:30.59 | J4k3 | yeah the lowest frequency I'll be doing so far is 900 |
| 08:31.00 | J4k3 | ;) |
| 08:31.02 | drmessano | Monkeys will screw anything up |
| 08:31.17 | bobnormal | AJayMN: locate chan_zap.so |xargs -n 1 strings |grep -i revision |
| 08:31.32 | drmessano | lol |
| 08:31.49 | drmessano | Isn't zap show version a bit easier? |
| 08:31.56 | bobnormal | AJayMN: you will get multiple lines if there's more than one version on your system (ps: you will need slocate and to run 'updatedb' first ;) ) |
| 08:31.59 | bobnormal | drmessano: he said it didnt work |
| 08:32.16 | drmessano | I missed that |
| 08:32.25 | bobnormal | drmessano: doesnt work on mine either, think you're dreaming ;) |
| 08:33.11 | drmessano | pbx11*CLI> zap show version |
| 08:33.11 | drmessano | Zaptel Version: SVN-branch-1.4-r3869 Echo Canceller: MG2 |
| 08:33.13 | drmessano | Must be |
| 08:33.37 | bobnormal | drmessano: must be new ;) |
| 08:33.42 | AJayMN | drmessano im running 1.2.26.... think zap show version is in 1.4 |
| 08:33.48 | drmessano | Ok |
| 08:34.03 | bobnormal | im running 1.4.17 |
| 08:34.20 | drmessano | Guess it's a 1.6 thing |
| 08:35.29 | AJayMN | bobnormal i got $Revision: 78370 $ 5 times, and Revision: 100835 once... |
| 08:35.38 | AJayMN | that mean i have 6 instances of Zaptel?! |
| 08:35.55 | bobnormal | ajaymn: yeah, chop it down to locate chan_zap.so and see where they are |
| 08:36.43 | drmessano | So lets see.. |
| 08:37.02 | drmessano | I got Chan_mobile with 1.6.. But Flite is broken and AstAssistant doesn't work |
| 08:37.32 | J4k3 | so |
| 08:37.42 | J4k3 | use 1.6 to hand off directly to your 1.4 install |
| 08:37.43 | J4k3 | dur |
| 08:37.44 | J4k3 | :) |
| 08:37.46 | drmessano | heh |
| 08:41.11 | *** join/#asterisk Oztzrf (n=Oztzrf@adsl-76-214-6-118.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net) |
| 08:41.55 | Oztzrf | looking for suggestions on sip provider that works well to test asterisk from home |
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| 08:42.06 | drmessano | ~itsp |
| 08:42.07 | jbot | [~itsp] An ITSP is an Internet telephony Service Provider or "VoIP Telephone company". The allow you to either PLACE calls to the PSTN (called Termination), RECEIVE calls from the PSTN (called Origination), or both. Some offer fixed rates, others $/min. Enter ~itsplist-us (USA) or ~itsplist-ca (Canada) for a listing of popular ITSPs |
| 08:42.08 | Oztzrf | los angeles area if that makes much of a diffeer |
| 08:42.58 | AJayMN | Oztzrf Broadvoice has LAX server |
| 08:43.14 | Oztzrf | do you use them |
| 08:43.23 | AJayMN | yep. over 2 years |
| 08:43.29 | Oztzrf | i used telasip for last 1.5yrs and just dropped them |
| 08:44.10 | AJayMN | high setup charge.. like 35.. but nice monthly.. 5.95 basic line no mins.. 9.95, unlimited state. 19.95 unlimited |
| 08:44.20 | Oztzrf | i want to use my aastara phone and play with asterisk and trixbox .. so you like them |
| 08:44.59 | AJayMN | they have been decent. but you have to know what your doing in asterisk.. they dont give you alot of help.. but the settings are on there website for asterisk |
| 08:45.45 | Oztzrf | did you hear anything about them and trixbox? that's what we have at work |
| 08:46.02 | AJayMN | trixbox = asterisk.... |
| 08:46.11 | AJayMN | just pretty interface.. |
| 08:46.56 | Oztzrf | :D true |
| 08:47.20 | drmessano | trixbox is asterisk + freepbx + monkeypoo |
| 08:47.43 | Oztzrf | seems ok at work but it's only been running like 3 months |
| 08:48.05 | AJayMN | monkeypoo x 100 |
| 08:49.24 | pkunkra | ugh. i hate websites that try to talk to me. |
| 08:49.50 | pkunkra | #1 rule of most websites.... no sound unless explicitly requested. |
| 08:50.02 | AJayMN | you drinking? |
| 08:50.09 | AJayMN | ive never had a website "talk" to me... |
| 08:50.44 | Asterlinktechy | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:51.02 | pkunkra | http://www.computerstructures.com/used_cabinets.htm |
| 08:51.19 | Asterlinktechy | hello gurus... What is the possible problem of this? |
| 08:51.23 | pkunkra | that is annoying. |
| 08:52.04 | AJayMN | Ive already been tippin the bottle.. so... ;) |
| 08:52.26 | pkunkra | how many fingers am i holding up? |
| 08:52.43 | AJayMN | none |
| 08:53.00 | AJayMN | 1 hands holding the bottle.. the other holding a glass |
| 08:53.53 | pkunkra | why bother with the glass? |
| 08:54.04 | AJayMN | mixer |
| 08:54.10 | AJayMN | rum/coke.. |
| 08:54.17 | pkunkra | eh |
| 08:54.19 | pkunkra | true |
| 08:54.23 | AJayMN | ;) |
| 08:54.50 | pkunkra | i'm not sure which will win out, the coke waking you up, or the rum putting you to sleep. |
| 08:55.01 | AJayMN | nice balance.. |
| 08:55.09 | AJayMN | its great being the boss.. booze in the server room ;) |
| 08:55.13 | pkunkra | though, rum and coke is one of my favorites |
| 08:55.19 | pkunkra | hahaha |
| 08:55.22 | pkunkra | true |
| 08:55.36 | pkunkra | have anyone under you or are you self-employed? |
| 08:55.51 | drmessano | Server rooms don't have litterbox's in them |
| 08:55.51 | AJayMN | self-emp |
| 08:56.08 | pkunkra | nice. |
| 08:56.17 | pkunkra | i'm in the same boat. |
| 08:56.27 | pkunkra | do plan on hiring sometime in the near future. |
| 08:56.44 | AJayMN | lol |
| 08:56.45 | pkunkra | when i do, i'd never drink in front of my employees |
| 08:56.52 | pkunkra | or in the server room. |
| 08:57.13 | pkunkra | certain part of me just tells me that's sheer negligence.... |
| 08:59.22 | bobnormal | me too guys |
| 08:59.47 | bobnormal | maybe theres a high correlation between asterisk systems and self employment |
| 08:59.48 | bobnormal | hehe |
| 09:00.08 | pkunkra | quite possible. |
| 09:00.21 | bobnormal | pkunkra: in china, you *have* to drink *with* employees/employers, it's part of the culture |
| 09:00.27 | pkunkra | its probably to do with the skill level required to set up the asterisk box. |
| 09:00.39 | drmessano | In Georgia, getting drunk with your boss is "Dang cool" |
| 09:00.52 | bobnormal | pkunkra: one of my friends recently got really pissed at her end-of-chinese-year party (they hired a huge restaruant) and wound up getting it on with some other chick in front of the whole company :) |
| 09:00.59 | bobnormal | pkunkra: great times! :P |
| 09:01.38 | pkunkra | bobnormal, yeah. they have the drinking politeness thing going on over there. happens at weddings too i hear. |
| 09:01.54 | pkunkra | drmessano, i hope at a bar instead of in the server room. |
| 09:02.20 | AJayMN | installing Asterisk directions: 1 linux box, Asterisk source, 1 bottle of Rum, 24pack Coke, and a late night... |
| 09:02.23 | bobnormal | pkunkra: no, at the celebration/reception :) |
| 09:02.37 | drmessano | We used to have something called "beverages with the boss" where we would all get drunk at work the last friday of every month |
| 09:02.50 | pkunkra | haha. |
| 09:02.55 | bobnormal | nice. company pags? |
| 09:03.00 | bobnormal | pays, even |
| 09:03.01 | drmessano | yeah |
| 09:03.12 | pkunkra | that's sweet |
| 09:03.12 | bobnormal | i could deal with that |
| 09:03.12 | drmessano | After a while, they started calling it "Beverages with Danny" |
| 09:03.16 | drmessano | <---- Danny |
| 09:03.31 | pkunkra | (hope one person on call is required to be sober) |
| 09:03.34 | AJayMN | I like " Beverages with Self" |
| 09:03.36 | drmessano | I think I was driven home 3 or 4 times |
| 09:03.53 | *** join/#asterisk IPGHOST (n=IPGHOST@203.215.176.186) |
| 09:04.00 | drmessano | I actually spend the better part of one of them putting 4 stations back on the air remotely |
| 09:04.01 | *** join/#asterisk scr (i=lubo@zatwor.sk) |
| 09:04.05 | drmessano | It was great |
| 09:04.10 | pkunkra | hah |
| 09:04.23 | drmessano | "IZ WERK SEW MUCHS BETER WEBNS I AM SRUNK" |
| 09:04.27 | pkunkra | wow. that says something if you can do your job hammered. |
| 09:04.34 | J4k3 | local engineer here would be wacked out of his mind on pills doing his job |
| 09:04.37 | J4k3 | and did a damned good job |
| 09:04.40 | bobnormal | what is it with many tabs of dodgy websites making firefox unresponsive. does anyone else have this problem? |
| 09:04.41 | pkunkra | not sure what, but it says something. |
| 09:05.01 | drmessano | I work best when my BAL is about 25% of the legal limit |
| 09:05.06 | drmessano | Not drunk, but just a good buzz |
| 09:05.23 | pkunkra | not sure. never had the firefox issue. only one i have is the flash plugin making firefox core dump on fedora |
| 09:05.41 | drmessano | Firefox has the worst memory management of any app ever |
| 09:05.43 | drmessano | But |
| 09:05.49 | bobnormal | mine dies on flash and adobe reader |
| 09:05.50 | J4k3 | I've finally admitted to myself I'm ADD, now I gotta go talk to a doctor about it, cuz I obviously need medication :| |
| 09:05.52 | drmessano | FF 3 Beta 4 is gonna blow that away |
| 09:06.04 | bobnormal | drmessano: is that out yet? |
| 09:06.09 | drmessano | Nope |
| 09:06.18 | drmessano | Im eagerly awaiting |
| 09:06.23 | pkunkra | "FF 3 Beta 4" usually implies its not out yet. |
| 09:06.27 | bobnormal | actually mine goes 100% cpu, i dont think its a memory thing |
| 09:06.31 | pkunkra | ... say what i mean about the drinking.... |
| 09:06.34 | pkunkra | :-) |
| 09:06.48 | drmessano | Supposed to be using some library that BSD uses for memory management |
| 09:07.01 | drmessano | It's cross platform, so all versions are getting it |
| 09:07.17 | bobnormal | sounds good to me |
| 09:07.26 | pkunkra | BSD is quite efficient at memory. did a lot of freebsd. quite surprised at it. |
| 09:07.48 | pkunkra | used to hack for openbsd a *long* time ago. |
| 09:08.00 | drmessano | Sound effing awesome to me... Firefox memory management currently blows like a cold hard wind across my chapped left butt cheek |
| 09:08.06 | pkunkra | good stuff across all the version. |
| 09:08.15 | pkunkra | versions* |
| 09:08.16 | bobnormal | i dunno, efficiency isnt really useful unless you're planning to run out of resources though |
| 09:08.34 | drmessano | Firefox is horrific at reusing memory |
| 09:08.38 | drmessano | It just uses, and uses, and uses |
| 09:08.53 | drmessano | Gives up a little, uses even more |
| 09:08.55 | bobnormal | sounds like politics, or a legal/marketing department |
| 09:08.59 | drmessano | "ZOO NOO 1GB" |
| 09:09.30 | drmessano | I had FF eat up 960MB Ram once |
| 09:09.44 | *** join/#asterisk oej (n=olle@81.253.93.67) |
| 09:09.50 | drmessano | It was one version that had a really bad flash problem |
| 09:09.56 | drmessano | and I left a tab open with some flash game |
| 09:10.11 | drmessano | Woke up next morning, PC unresponsible |
| 09:10.16 | drmessano | I have 4GB RAM |
| 09:10.31 | drmessano | It had 960MB of it locked and 100% CPU pegged |
| 09:10.32 | drmessano | Good stuff |
| 09:10.55 | bobnormal | what about asterisk flash operator panel |
| 09:11.17 | pkunkra | gui's are bad. |
| 09:11.21 | pkunkra | give me a cli anyday. |
| 09:13.34 | drmessano | I always thought Windows 3.1 was pretty hot |
| 09:14.30 | pkunkra | yeah, i remember 3.1 |
| 09:14.42 | pkunkra | hell, i remember pre-windows |
| 09:14.51 | pkunkra | all i had was dos |
| 09:15.17 | pkunkra | i think i had dos 3.0 was it? |
| 09:16.06 | pkunkra | ah, dos 3.3. right |
| 09:16.13 | pkunkra | released in '87 |
| 09:16.23 | pkunkra | i hacked on it in '88 |
| 09:16.33 | bobnormal | i started on dos5 |
| 09:16.48 | bobnormal | gorilla.bas |
| 09:16.54 | pkunkra | yeah, that's when i got better. |
| 09:16.55 | pkunkra | hahaha |
| 09:16.59 | pkunkra | i remember that |
| 09:17.34 | bobnormal | rebooting to enable EMS |
| 09:17.47 | bobnormal | editing config.sys to disable/enable drivers and reboot just to change games |
| 09:18.00 | pkunkra | yeah, i had my HIMEM and EMM386 all tweaked out to the max |
| 09:18.09 | bobnormal | the hardest game to run was quarantine |
| 09:18.20 | *** join/#asterisk nighty^ (n=nighty@p1004-adsau16honb13-acca.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp) |
| 09:18.40 | bobnormal | you couldnt do it with mouse driver loaded, had to be blaster.sys and emm386 |
| 09:20.11 | drmessano | memmaker |
| 09:20.15 | drmessano | FTW |
| 09:21.01 | pkunkra | hah |
| 09:21.25 | bobnormal | im just glad linux scales from nothing to mainframe |
| 09:21.33 | bobnormal | cant be bothered jumping through those kinds of hoops again |
| 09:21.50 | pkunkra | yeah, the memory limit was the worst part. |
| 09:22.01 | drmessano | Ubuntu Mainframe? |
| 09:22.03 | pkunkra | glad the dumped the whole os and wrote a new one. |
| 09:22.06 | pkunkra | though... |
| 09:22.14 | pkunkra | the newer one had its own issues |
| 09:22.44 | drmessano | Ubuntu Mainframe 10.1: Burpy Beaver |
| 09:24.46 | bobnormal | how many intelligence agencies do you reckon monitor this channel |
| 09:25.02 | Frogzoo | bobnormal: for what? |
| 09:25.34 | bobnormal | telephony is critical infrastructure, keeping track of people who are involved and their affiliations is potentially valuable information |
| 09:25.37 | Frogzoo | I think this whole NSA paranoia gets a bit out of hand |
| 09:25.53 | bobnormal | pfft, call me paranoid, its the truth.. and whoever reads this is laughing too ;) |
| 09:25.55 | pkunkra | gorilla.bas ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncykt-YJO1M&feature=related |
| 09:26.20 | drmessano | bobnormal, on IRC, everyone is an FBI agent |
| 09:26.25 | drmessano | I have been 3 or 4 times |
| 09:26.31 | bobnormal | damn, i'd better leave |
| 09:26.53 | bobnormal | pkunkra: gorilla.bas music! what a trip |
| 09:26.56 | drmessano | ZOMG Gorilla.bas |
| 09:27.53 | Frogzoo | that's just silly, there's 57k chans on freenode, it's impossible for NSA to have a human read them all |
| 09:28.24 | bobnormal | yeah but if you were going to pick some to read, this'd be one of them |
| 09:28.48 | bobnormal | anyway forget i mentioned it |
| 09:28.55 | bobnormal | :P |
| 09:29.02 | Frogzoo | I would think if you wanted to pass coded text, #politics or other random chatter high volume # would be easier |
| 09:29.33 | drmessano | THE DRINKWELL FOUNTAIN HAS TASTY WATER AFTER SUNRISE |
| 09:29.41 | drmessano | Uh, ignore that |
| 09:29.43 | bobnormal | drmessano: hahaha :) |
| 09:31.23 | Frogzoo | drmessano just won a one way trip to an undisclosed location |
| 09:31.51 | bobnormal | via germany! |
| 09:32.18 | pkunkra | remember simcity 2000 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fn9nN5NxOK8&feature=related |
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| 09:34.14 | bobnormal | yeah that was classic, i think dune2, descent 1, heretic and quarantine were the best of that era though |
| 09:35.13 | bobnormal | oh and xcom :) |
| 09:35.43 | bobnormal | someone should do an asterisk-based competition where you have to identify the games that certain sounds come from |
| 09:36.19 | pkunkra | haha |
| 09:36.23 | pkunkra | that would be funny. |
| 09:36.29 | pkunkra | sleep time |
| 09:36.31 | pkunkra | later |
| 09:36.34 | bobnormal | 'night! |
| 09:37.40 | drmessano | night |
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| 09:38.03 | bobnormal | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:38.10 | drmessano | lol |
| 09:38.21 | drmessano | Yep |
| 09:43.00 | J4k3 | xkobo 4 life |
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| 09:47.02 | drmessano | Yahoo? |
| 09:48.51 | J4k3 | xkobo |
| 09:48.53 | J4k3 | great game |
| 09:56.25 | J4k3 | damn I need some gig-e |
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| 10:17.08 | Paladine | does anyone know of any linux softphone which works with pulseaudio? |
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| 11:50.42 | SteveTotaro | ugh, it's early and my back hurts, that's what I get for sleeping on the couch, the worst part is dreaming along with that "Click to Cash Website" infomercial. You too can have ten internet websites. |
| 11:56.36 | bobnormal | sweet! |
| 11:56.39 | bobnormal | who do i pay? |
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| 12:02.47 | SteveTotaro | i pay all day for a stiff back and neck, that's who |
| 12:02.50 | SteveTotaro | ;( |
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| 12:35.29 | bobnormal | how do i get asterisk -r to run as a non-root user? |
| 12:35.49 | bobnormal | im trying to have a cgi grab some data from it |
| 12:36.19 | bobnormal | but it always dies with "Unable to connect to remote asterisk (does /var/run/asterisk.ctl exist?)" |
| 12:36.25 | bobnormal | i dont think my webserver is chrooted and the file exists |
| 12:37.24 | clickonce | Check to see if it is chrooted first. ;) |
| 12:37.36 | clickonce | "I think" isn't the best way to solve problems. |
| 12:38.52 | bobnormal | the file's there, even from the same cgi i can ls it |
| 12:39.06 | bobnormal | clickonce: but likewise, if you're completely certain of everything, it could take you ages ;) |
| 12:39.52 | bobnormal | very strange |
| 12:40.16 | bobnormal | i suppose i can strace it |
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| 12:42.36 | bobnormal | that doesnt enlighten either |
| 12:43.21 | bobnormal | guess i could read the code... :( i hate c .. i guess if i understood it better the strace output would be enough to make sense of :) |
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| 12:46.35 | bobnormal | code isnt making me any clearer either .. asterisk.c line 1099 is the attempt, line 2811 is the error |
| 12:50.19 | Mw3 | heh |
| 12:50.29 | Paladine | anyone know of a linux softphone that works with pulseaudio? |
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| 12:52.58 | Mw3 | bobnormal: check your asterisk.conf, and be sure that the apache user has write access to asterisk.ctl |
| 12:53.14 | DiscoKing | anyone know what would cause messages played in asterisk to be so jittery that you can't understand what is being said |
| 12:53.26 | bobnormal | mw3: i can run the perl script OK when i start a shell with 'sudo -u lighttpd /bin/bash' |
| 12:53.59 | bobnormal | DiscoKing: if they're new, then possible incorrect encoding... like wrong sox args during conversion |
| 12:54.33 | DiscoKing | i used the one's that it installed and i also tryed wav's |
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| 12:55.58 | bobnormal | DiscoKing: sorry, dont know then. have you tested the phone with another sip/iax peer? that could help to narrow it down |
| 12:56.17 | DiscoKing | the calls between the phones are perfect |
| 12:56.26 | DiscoKing | it's just when it read prompts |
| 12:56.39 | DiscoKing | moh is perfect |
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| 12:57.30 | DiscoKing | i tryed trixbox and that worked |
| 12:57.35 | bobnormal | DiscoKing: i am guessing but its probably something to do with the codec conversion process, ie: stored .gsm -> whatever your phones use. |
| 12:57.50 | DiscoKing | but the calls had static |
| 12:58.48 | bobnormal | DiscoKing: also you could explore the possibility of high interrupt load, this can cause weird stuff. i never saw it but i read somewhere it happens with the cheaper single-POTS line clone cards, heavy hard drive/network card usage, etc. |
| 12:59.04 | bobnormal | DiscoKing: would like to keep brainstorming for you but i dont know enough to really help, sorry :) |
| 13:01.06 | DiscoKing | i'm using pure sip with softphones |
| 13:01.32 | DiscoKing | there is no dropped packets |
| 13:01.32 | bobnormal | what kind of network are you going over? |
| 13:01.44 | bobnormal | could be a dodgy hub/switch? |
| 13:01.44 | DiscoKing | 100mb |
| 13:01.51 | bobnormal | try changing or using a direct x-over cable |
| 13:02.26 | bobnormal | also check your network card driver, a lot of linux kernel networking drivers have options to increase speed/decrease system load by using faster memory techniques |
| 13:02.38 | bobnormal | and also lower interrupts |
| 13:02.48 | bobnormal | and first up, easy one, check your cpu load during a choppy call |
| 13:02.57 | DiscoKing | the calls are fine |
| 13:03.05 | DiscoKing | it's just the voice prompts |
| 13:03.09 | bobnormal | choppy playback then |
| 13:03.18 | DiscoKing | really choppy |
| 13:03.35 | DiscoKing | it takes 5 seconds to say goodbye |
| 13:03.42 | coppice | pork choppy, or lamb choppy? |
| 13:03.46 | DiscoKing | goooooooddddddd byyyyyyyyeeeeee |
| 13:03.48 | bobnormal | get wireshark going |
| 13:04.08 | bobnormal | maybe theres some network issues going on you're not aware of |
| 13:04.23 | bobnormal | though i dont know why it would only affect playback |
| 13:04.35 | bobnormal | i really think its most likely to be cpu related during codec conversion |
| 13:06.09 | bobnormal | dumb question, but are your sound files stored on a slow medium like an overloaded hard drive or a network share? |
| 13:06.14 | DiscoKing | i thought it was something to do with app_playback.so |
| 13:06.17 | bobnormal | that could also be a cause |
| 13:06.34 | DiscoKing | no they are on a dedicated drive with asterisk |
| 13:06.42 | bobnormal | does 'dmesg' contain any hard-drive related errors? |
| 13:06.46 | DiscoKing | none |
| 13:06.58 | bobnormal | ok sorry im out of guesses :) |
| 13:07.01 | bobnormal | upgrade asterisk? :P |
| 13:07.38 | DiscoKing | don't tempt me ;) |
| 13:07.40 | bobnormal | otherwise, recompile your kernel and carefully select all options to do with basic system configuration |
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| 13:10.18 | DiscoKing | well that for the help i'll give those things a try |
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| 13:10.28 | DiscoKing | thanks not that |
| 13:10.30 | bobnormal | good luck :) |
| 13:10.39 | bobnormal | i hate weird issues! |
| 13:10.58 | SamuraiDio | hi |
| 13:11.02 | bobnormal | (ps: if all else fails, try changing cpu/motherboard/memory, could be quicker than trying to find the cause) |
| 13:11.12 | SamuraiDio | is there some asterisk command to shoe the current date and time? |
| 13:11.14 | DiscoKing | what really baffed me was trixbox was fine but asterisk was not |
| 13:11.43 | bobnormal | DiscoKing: it has a different kernel, and is probably a slightly different asterisk version |
| 13:12.20 | DiscoKing | thanks again! |
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| 13:18.43 | bobnormal | who was asking about pulseaudio |
| 13:19.28 | bobnormal | whoever it was, i reckon you can probably get it to work by outputting pulseaudio to a device and having icecast stream from it, since i read somewhere something about icecast<->asterisk |
| 13:19.37 | bobnormal | good luck with that too :) |
| 13:19.37 | rafiks | hey ! newbie question ,does kernel preemption affects an asterisk box? does it cause problems? |
| 13:19.53 | bobnormal | rafiks, kernel effects everything |
| 13:20.21 | bobnormal | whether its good or bad, i cant tell you, but i would err on the side of good :) |
| 13:20.52 | bobnormal | basically as i understand it it's a method of making sure high-priority processes get dealt with quickly, therefore resources are shared 'more smoothly' at the price of some overhead |
| 13:21.05 | bobnormal | on an asterisk box, my gut feeling is thats a 'good thing' |
| 13:21.08 | rafiks | bobnormal : i have a standalone box,not a desktop ,i've been having dropped calls recentsly |
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| 13:22.16 | rafiks | bobnormal : i've isolated my problem to be the asterisk,not my pap2t,and not my provider since ,i tried using a softphone and its all good |
| 13:23.57 | bobnormal | rafiks: just ideas, i really know nothing about that, plus i never had that problem so i dont know.... BUT it might help to remember the cause may be elsewhere (network hardware, etc.). if you can try to get a tcpdump of a call dropping or some more asterisk logs (i wouldnt know how to get these enabled though) and analyse the cause from there. |
| 13:24.15 | rafiks | basically ,what i get after about 20 minutes of connection is a very long buzzing sound .. i will try to see if i get a logs |
| 13:24.50 | bobnormal | rajiks: more ideas. dont know. BUT is there a POTS side to the connection? could be some kind of electrical buildup on the POTS side? :) |
| 13:32.57 | rafiks | will try getting a tcpdump today,, |
| 13:32.57 | rafiks | bobnormal : no,all voip |
| 13:32.57 | rafiks | bobnormal : i have comcast ,,if that's relevant .. |
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| 13:36.37 | bobnormal | rafiks: no idea sorry |
| 13:37.03 | mkl1525 | Hi, I've read that it's possible to store agents.conf with realtime in mysql - but didn't found anywhere the structure the db table has to have, any hints? |
| 13:37.10 | bobnormal | rafiks: i'd google "'dropped calls' asterisk" and go from there, surely there's some good writeups on possible causes |
| 13:37.33 | bobnormal | mkl1525: you need to use ARA - asterisk realtime architecture |
| 13:37.48 | bobnormal | mkl1525: check doc/realtime.txt and doc/extconfig.txt in the asterisk source |
| 13:38.14 | bobnormal | mkl1525: also check /etc/asterisk/extconfig.conf |
| 13:38.45 | clickonce | What are the builtin extensions? I can't find any information about them. |
| 13:39.57 | bobnormal | mkl1525: the issue is, you still need to generate the mysql table in the right format. it might be easier to have your existing user-management system generate new files for /etc/asterisk via a script then issue an "asterisk -rx 'reload'" instead |
| 13:40.45 | bobnormal | clickonce: they're in the main section of /etc/asterisk/extensions.conf - if you didn't know that, you should read the TFOT book |
| 13:43.35 | mkl1525 | bobnormal thanks for the infos - we want to create a simple web interface so using mysql would be great, ARA is configured already for sip users, extension, voicemail - problem is I don't get how the mysql table for agents should be created, just columns "agentid","agentpassword","name"? |
| 13:45.01 | clickonce | Strange... brb |
| 13:45.21 | bobnormal | mkl1525: i've never used ARA, i considered it and decided not to. only docs i've seen on that are the doc/realtime.txt and doc/extconfig.txt files, sorruy |
| 13:49.06 | SamuraiDio | is there some asterisk command to show the current date and time? |
| 13:50.26 | bobnormal | SamuraiDio: not that i know of, but you could consider using a system call to the 'date' utility |
| 13:51.02 | SamuraiDio | bobnormal, how does it get the calls date, then? |
| 13:51.20 | jameswf-home | ~buybook |
| 13:51.20 | jbot | You can buy "Asterisk the Future of Telephony" at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ so go buy it SERIOUSLY |
| 13:52.04 | clickonce | I have i => { in my .ael file, but, when I call an extension that doesn't match any of the rules in that context, I don't get to the i context... any ideas? I get no errors or warnings. |
| 13:52.42 | bobnormal | SamuraiDio: that will only be the date that you run the system() command .. if you need complete call length data (start/stop), consider parsing the /var/log/asterisk/cdr-csv/Master.csv file instead |
| 13:56.37 | SamuraiDio | system() command, on asterisk? |
| 13:57.41 | bobnormal | its called something like that |
| 13:57.56 | bobnormal | it lets you run arbitrary commands as part of the dialplan |
| 13:58.41 | SamuraiDio | how do i use it? |
| 13:59.34 | SamuraiDio | STRFTIME STRFTIME([<epoch>][,[timezone][,for Returns the current date/time in a specified format. |
| 13:59.55 | SamuraiDio | is this an asterisk function? how can i use it? |
| 14:00.18 | jameswf-home | SamuraiDio: seriously google |
| 14:00.19 | bobnormal | its called System() -- http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk+cmd+System |
| 14:00.45 | jameswf-home | ~fish |
| 14:00.45 | jbot | i guess fish is FISHFISHFISH! DO THE FISH DANCE! "Give a man a fish and you'll feed him a day. Teach him how to fish and he'll feed himself for the rest of his life." This is so appropriate, instead of asking us to tell you exactly what to do, why not read some docs, then come back and ask specific questions which aren't covered?, or ... |
| 14:00.48 | SamuraiDio | ok, sorry by bothering |
| 14:00.51 | jameswf-home | ~fire |
| 14:00.52 | jbot | Bender : Light a fire for a man and he's warm for a night. Light a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life... |
| 14:02.22 | clickonce | That's incorrect. |
| 14:02.38 | clickonce | You learn him how to light a fire. You don't put him on fire. |
| 14:03.04 | jameswf-home | ?learn him how to light himself on fire? |
| 14:03.13 | clickonce | no |
| 14:03.43 | bobnormal | haha :) |
| 14:03.56 | bobnormal | "learn me up, scotty!" |
| 14:04.57 | jameswf-home | but technicaly if a man is set on fire and the fire burns long enough int the man warm for the rest o his shortened life |
| 14:05.35 | BeeBuu | is there any usb asterisk adapter? |
| 14:05.38 | bobnormal | jameswf-home: dont worry, comprehended ;) |
| 14:06.16 | bobnormal | beebuu: there's a few .. usb sound devices, bluetooth to a headset, bluetooth + ip + iax tunneling, you name it! |
| 14:07.16 | BeeBuu | i mean a usb zaptel or something like that... |
| 14:07.59 | jameswf-home | BeeBuu: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Analog+Telephone+Adapters |
| 14:08.40 | clickonce | Do I need to enable anything to get the i extension working? |
| 14:11.12 | SamuraiDio | the system() command is used on calls, right? i need something to use on the asterisk shell ($ asterisk -r)... |
| 14:12.45 | jameswf-home | its like a cat you feed em they keep coming back |
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| 14:29.18 | patrick-- | hey, ive got a BN4S0 HFC Card, where Port 1 is TE for PSTN connection and 2-4 are NT for ISDN phones, where there is 2 phones connected to each port. is it possible to set callerid for each phone, or just portwise? cause you are only able to set context portwise... |
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| 14:34.46 | bobnormal | patrick--: there should still be unique channel IDs for each phone, right? so you can use an AGI or a conditional on the channel name to set the caller ID from the common context you've set for that channel-bank |
| 14:35.30 | patrick-- | like if numer = xxx set callerid yyy ? |
| 14:35.42 | patrick-- | the phones have msn's set |
| 14:35.45 | patrick-- | could i use those? |
| 14:35.46 | bobnormal | patrick--: i'm not sure on the hardware but it may also be possible to break up the channelbank definition to many definitions covering individual incoming channels |
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| 14:36.07 | patrick-- | thing is there is more than one phone connected to an S0 bus |
| 14:36.35 | bobnormal | patrick--: i dont even know what msns are! but if they're available to asterisk, an AGI could use them for setting caller ID |
| 14:36.45 | patrick-- | grrr |
| 14:36.49 | patrick-- | im a starter |
| 14:36.54 | patrick-- | i dont even know what agi's are :D |
| 14:37.11 | bobnormal | ~buybook |
| 14:37.12 | jbot | You can buy "Asterisk the Future of Telephony" at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ so go buy it SERIOUSLY |
| 14:37.19 | patrick-- | im reading it right now :D |
| 14:37.28 | bobnormal | ok well there's a whole chapter on it! |
| 14:37.31 | bobnormal | i think its #8 from memory |
| 14:37.34 | patrick-- | right |
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| 14:38.38 | dofear | can we get sip peers with asterisk realtime from two seperate database? |
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| 14:41.12 | dofear | can we get sip peers with asterisk realtime from two seperate database? |
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| 14:46.02 | bobnormal | dofear: maybe you can if you use stored procedures in your database to generate virtual tables that are built dynamically from two places |
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| 14:47.11 | dofear | bobnormal: good idea ... but no built-in mechanism in asterik, yeah? |
| 14:47.24 | dofear | bobnormal: i am heading to mysql channel |
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| 14:54.04 | iq | hi |
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| 14:56.39 | Swabby | What is the easiest way to change the IP Address on your already configured asterisk server? |
| 14:58.00 | patrick-- | Whats the variable for the callernumber of an incoming call _ |
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| 14:58.20 | bobnormal | swabby: edit all the files that have a specific IP set in /etc/asterisk/*.conf ... and change it to the new one |
| 14:58.32 | bobnormal | Swabby: then shut down asterisk completely and start again |
| 14:59.24 | lmadsen | patrick--: it's a dialplan function |
| 14:59.47 | patrick-- | lmadsen: i want to append a 0 to the callers number |
| 14:59.55 | patrick-- | set(CALLERID=0$(${CALLERID})) |
| 15:00.01 | patrick-- | that doesnt seem to be right ;D |
| 15:00.14 | lmadsen | patrick--: it's a dialplan function -- core show functions |
| 15:00.19 | lmadsen | not a variable |
| 15:01.09 | patrick-- | phew |
| 15:01.18 | patrick-- | so how do i grab it ? CALLERID() ? |
| 15:01.34 | lmadsen | patrick--: you need to learn how dialplan functions work it seems -- please read some documentation |
| 15:02.04 | lmadsen | ~book |
| 15:02.04 | jbot | Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com, or see ~buybook |
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| 15:02.12 | patrick-- | im reading it right now :D |
| 15:02.42 | lmadsen | Set(DIALPLAN_FUNCTION(arg)=value) -- NoOp(${DIALPLAN_FUNCTION(arg)} <-- returns a value) |
| 15:02.53 | patrick-- | ill read uo |
| 15:02.55 | patrick-- | up |
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| 15:05.52 | patrick-- | lmadsen: but i have to read out the callerid before i can write it, dont i? |
| 15:06.01 | lmadsen | you were on the right path |
| 15:06.15 | lmadsen | I just refuse to hold your hand... we barely know each other :) |
| 15:06.25 | patrick-- | sorry honey, let me give it another try ;D |
| 15:07.29 | patrick-- | set(CALLERID=0$($CALLERID(num))) |
| 15:07.32 | patrick-- | what about this one? |
| 15:07.39 | lmadsen | almost |
| 15:07.44 | patrick-- | set(CALLERID(num)=0$($CALLERID(num))) |
| 15:07.49 | lmadsen | closer :) |
| 15:07.51 | patrick-- | argh! :D |
| 15:08.01 | patrick-- | gotcha! set($CALLERID(num)=0$($CALLERID(num))) |
| 15:08.05 | lmadsen | your value is incorrect |
| 15:08.11 | lmadsen | rather... the format is wrong |
| 15:08.14 | lmadsen | (syntax error) |
| 15:08.26 | patrick-- | The allowable datatypes are all, name, num, ani, dnid, or |
| 15:08.33 | patrick-- | rdnis |
| 15:08.35 | patrick-- | CALLERID(datatype[,optional-CID]) |
| 15:08.38 | lmadsen | no no... not what I mean |
| 15:08.53 | lmadsen | syntax: ${FUNCTION(arg)} and FUNCTION(arg) |
| 15:08.58 | lmadsen | look at that, and now look at yours |
| 15:09.10 | patrick-- | ah brackets? |
| 15:09.34 | lmadsen | and misplaced dollar signs |
| 15:10.15 | patrick-- | set{$CALLERID(num)=0${$CALLERID(num)}} |
| 15:10.32 | lmadsen | look closer |
| 15:10.42 | patrick-- | sorry |
| 15:10.44 | lmadsen | misplaced dollar signs* |
| 15:11.06 | lmadsen | and applications are App(arg) format |
| 15:11.12 | lmadsen | not App{arg} |
| 15:11.21 | [TK]D-Fender | this is just painful... |
| 15:11.28 | patrick-- | :-/ |
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| 15:11.40 | lmadsen | [TK]D-Fender: if you just tell the answer, you learn no debugging skills |
| 15:11.42 | [TK]D-Fender | lmadsen, you have master my art far beyond my expectations! |
| 15:12.40 | lmadsen | patrick--: look at the formatting again. Applications: Dial(.......) Writing a function: FUNCTION(arg)=value Reading a value from a function: ${FUNCTION(arg)} Reading a value from a variable: ${VARIABLE} |
| 15:12.41 | patrick-- | set{$CALLERID(num)=0${CALLERID(num)}} |
| 15:12.55 | lmadsen | patrick--: much closer -- read my last comment, and try again |
| 15:13.07 | lmadsen | Set() is an application. |
| 15:13.17 | patrick-- | ok gimme a sec |
| 15:13.20 | lmadsen | Look at how you write to a function, and what you have wrong |
| 15:13.37 | lmadsen | Writing to a function: Set(FUNCTION(arg)=value) |
| 15:14.25 | lmadsen | Writing the value from a variable and assigning it to another variable: Set(VARIABLE=${FOOBAR}) |
| 15:14.35 | lmadsen | notice the formatting of the functions and the variables are very similar |
| 15:14.45 | lmadsen | that is not by accident |
| 15:14.54 | patrick-- | set($CALLERID(num)=0${CALLERID(num)}) |
| 15:15.00 | lmadsen | you are sooooooooooooooo close :) |
| 15:15.32 | lmadsen | remember when I mentioned extra dollar signs? |
| 15:15.35 | patrick-- | set(CALLERID(num)=0${CALLERID(num)}) |
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| 15:15.39 | lmadsen | is that right? |
| 15:15.45 | patrick-- | you tell me :) |
| 15:15.53 | lmadsen | oh no -- you tell me if you have it right |
| 15:16.13 | Wayhigh | anyone know where to find rate card compilers? (something to grab the rate card from many voip providers) |
| 15:16.15 | lmadsen | based on all the formatting I told you, is it right? |
| 15:16.43 | patrick-- | seems so |
| 15:16.59 | lmadsen | patrick--: go give it a shot then and see if you get a syntax error on your dialplan (btw: it is correct) |
| 15:17.08 | patrick-- | it works fine |
| 15:17.12 | patrick-- | thank you :) |
| 15:17.14 | lmadsen | well there ya go :) |
| 15:17.22 | patrick-- | up for another question? |
| 15:17.46 | lmadsen | now take your new found knowledge and try to remember the difference between assigning and reading from a dialplan function, because you'll need it for your dialplans |
| 15:17.53 | lmadsen | patrick--: are you sure you want me to try answering it? :) |
| 15:18.23 | patrick-- | i have a HFC card with 4 ports, where 1 is TE (PSTN) and 2-3 are NT for ISDN phones, where theres 2 phones on each port. i can only set a context per port so is there any way i can set callerid for the phones specific and not only per port? |
| 15:18.28 | patrick-- | i am :) |
| 15:19.16 | lmadsen | I'm not sure I understand the question.... isn't per port a specific phone? |
| 15:19.24 | lmadsen | oh nevermind |
| 15:19.27 | lmadsen | 2 phones per port |
| 15:19.30 | patrick-- | ! |
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| 15:19.45 | lmadsen | sorry, there isn't going to be any way for asterisk to know the difference between the two phones I don't think |
| 15:19.56 | lmadsen | although I don't know if digital phones work any different than analog |
| 15:19.58 | patrick-- | what about the msn's the phones are sending? |
| 15:20.10 | patrick-- | you can assign numbers to to the phones |
| 15:20.22 | lmadsen | I've never used an HFC card, so I'm not positive if there is a value that they send or whatnot that you can parse from the dialplan |
| 15:20.31 | patrick-- | ok |
| 15:20.50 | patrick-- | thx anyway |
| 15:20.54 | lmadsen | if you have some sort of channel variable to differntiate the phones, then you could look up the info in the AstDB (after you put it there), or statically assigned it in the dialplan |
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| 15:28.58 | patrick-- | lmadsen: |
| 15:29.02 | patrick-- | another strange thing is |
| 15:29.04 | jameswf-home | <aplause> |
| 15:29.09 | patrick-- | Set(CALLERID(name)=xxx) wont work |
| 15:29.37 | lmadsen | you mean for your service provider? |
| 15:29.41 | patrick-- | nope |
| 15:29.43 | patrick-- | internal calls |
| 15:29.49 | patrick-- | isdn phone -> isdn phone |
| 15:29.51 | lmadsen | it should if your phone supports it.... |
| 15:30.00 | patrick-- | it does... it did with the old hardware pbx |
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| 15:31.44 | jameswf-home | I like ubuntu but Iswear to god there are some roaches in the user base |
| 15:32.13 | [AMB] | Hi there |
| 15:32.17 | patrick-- | lmadsen: anything else that could be troubling it? |
| 15:32.20 | patrick-- | setting numbers works fine |
| 15:32.25 | lmadsen | not sure... probably not |
| 15:32.28 | [AMB] | THere is an alternative to WaitExten()? |
| 15:32.48 | [TK]D-Fender | [AMB], to do what? |
| 15:33.27 | [AMB] | I need to obtain the digits that the caller enter |
| 15:33.40 | [TK]D-Fender | [AMB], "core show application read" |
| 15:33.42 | [AMB] | So i can use them to transfer to an extension |
| 15:33.53 | [AMB] | Ok :) |
| 15:33.56 | [AMB] | Thanks |
| 15:34.02 | jameswf-home | just noticed lmadsen is on the top doner list for pastebin |
| 15:34.16 | lmadsen | jameswf-home: filthy stinkin' lies! |
| 15:34.31 | [AMB] | I don't know why WaitExten() isn't working for me :( |
| 15:34.37 | [AMB] | But i am a Newbee |
| 15:34.43 | jameswf-home | ~newb |
| 15:34.43 | jbot | Don't bother telling us you're a "newb" or a "n00b". We can tell. |
| 15:34.44 | [AMB] | So.. |
| 15:34.53 | [AMB] | :P |
| 15:35.08 | lmadsen | jbot: no, newb is Don't bother telling us you're a "newb", "n00b", or "nub". We can tell. |
| 15:35.09 | jbot | okay, lmadsen |
| 15:35.35 | jameswf-home | I am an 1337357 Schmuck :)) |
| 15:35.50 | jameswf-home | I however am not 1337 enuff for bsd |
| 15:36.02 | lmadsen | heck no |
| 15:36.06 | lmadsen | no one really is |
| 15:36.17 | jameswf-home | ~unixdog |
| 15:36.18 | jbot | <unixdog> Everyone use BSD gah linux sux progress is overrated use my project gah |
| 15:36.25 | Wayhigh | every night.. unf |
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| 15:38.07 | jameswf-home | had a new employee ask me to define what the kernel was... I told him the old guy in the white suit who owns the plantation and makes fried chicken.... he looked at me with thea fu glare and walked away |
| 15:38.27 | Wayhigh | hahaha.. |
| 15:39.38 | Wayhigh | next time.. tell him the kernel is just one part of the larger cob |
| 15:39.46 | jameswf-home | I had a coworker ask once " have you ever done something stupid and lived to regret it" I answered "no, everytime I do something stupid I die" got the same look guy didnt talk to me for 2 weeks |
| 15:41.53 | jameswf-home | I have started putting post-it notes on every day objects around the office with linux commands. on the fire extinguisher i put "mount /dev/fire_e /wall" |
| 15:42.10 | clickonce | lol |
| 15:42.37 | patrick-- | ... |
| 15:42.52 | the_5th_wheel | can i use a PRI canrd to connect to a normal pabx without going thru telecom equiptment? |
| 15:43.09 | the_5th_wheel | to make a voip bridge for this PABX |
| 15:43.14 | jameswf-home | the_5th_wheel: does your pabx support pri |
| 15:44.30 | clickonce | Is it possible to exclude matches from extensions? I.e. match 00Z[1245789]XX. (matches any non-cellular number in Sweden), but, would it be possible to execlue e.g. 00855332255 from this match? |
| 15:45.04 | the_5th_wheel | jameswf-home: yes |
| 15:45.07 | Wayhigh | james: shouldn't that have been "cat /dev/zero > /tmp/fire"? |
| 15:45.12 | LiNeTuX | Who's the best VOIP carrier to park a phone # with (US phone #) |
| 15:45.26 | jameswf-home | clickonce: you could make a dial rule specific to that number |
| 15:45.26 | LiNeTuX | Best as in you just want to 'hold' onto it |
| 15:45.58 | jameswf-home | Wayhigh: only when used otherwise it is just mounted to the wall. |
| 15:46.33 | jameswf-home | maybe use instructions umount /wall && cat /dev/zero > /tmp/fire |
| 15:47.52 | jameswf-home | umount /wall && cat /dev/fire_e | /tmp/fire |
| 15:48.52 | clickonce | jameswf-home: That will not work. |
| 15:49.25 | clickonce | jameswf-home: The wildcard one will take preceedence. |
| 15:49.48 | clickonce | I can't get the i (invalid) extension to work either. |
| 15:49.57 | [TK]D-Fender | clickonce, what do you want to do with that number that is excluded? |
| 15:50.14 | clickonce | Playback an invalid message and hangup. |
| 15:50.19 | clickonce | Certain numbers should be blocked. |
| 15:50.27 | [TK]D-Fender | clickonce, the do a GotoIf based on that single number |
| 15:51.08 | [TK]D-Fender | clickonce, and "i" is only used for IVR's, not for inbound connection attempts |
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| 15:51.20 | clickonce | ah, damn |
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| 15:51.56 | spyder12345 | Anyone know on a sip to sip call when only one side hangs up, the other side gets a busy tone if they are still offhook? |
| 15:51.59 | [AMB] | Anyone can recommend me a good softphone to use to develop an IVR |
| 15:52.07 | [AMB] | X-Lite isn't working fine :S |
| 15:52.17 | [TK]D-Fender | ~softphone |
| 15:52.18 | jbot | [~softphone] A soft-phone is a program that lets your computer use a compatible audio interface (usually a speaker&mic, or headset), and optionally a webcam, to place VoIP calls with a given protocol (SIP/IAX/H.323/MGCP/etc). For links enter ~zoiper , ~xlite , ~twinkle , ~bria , ~eyebeam |
| 15:52.51 | [AMB] | Ok, let's give it a try to zoiper |
| 15:53.17 | [AMB] | Thanks [TK]D-Fender |
| 15:53.50 | [TK]D-Fender | spyder12345, only stupid phones like the Linksys SPA series do that. |
| 15:54.40 | spyder12345 | hmm.. Ok, but there is no fix? I have this problem with the cheapy Budgetone 100 which makes sense, but I have this problem with Cisco ATA's as well.. |
| 15:54.57 | [TK]D-Fender | spyder12345, ATA's CAN'T hang up on the attached phone. Its analog |
| 15:55.29 | [TK]D-Fender | spyder12345, live with it, or replace it. Your choice |
| 15:55.45 | jameswf-home | ignorepat => 9 <<<<is this how to mimic a key system? |
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| 15:56.00 | [TK]D-Fender | jameswf-home, No |
| 15:56.19 | [TK]D-Fender | jameswf-home, that only keeps dialtone on extens starting with 9 on a zaptel interface |
| 15:56.23 | [TK]D-Fender | (analog) |
| 15:56.57 | jameswf-home | right so on zap channels they get the happy feeling of dt when they hit 9 |
| 15:57.02 | [TK]D-Fender | jameswf-home, key systems do other things like SLA, etc.... "9" + tone is kinda global |
| 15:57.23 | [TK]D-Fender | jameswf-home, uyp. Polycoms and possibly some other phones can do that as well |
| 15:58.00 | jameswf-home | I had an end user figt his system ror 3 hours before calling me, he says I hit 9 I get silence then reorder...... |
| 15:58.06 | spyder12345 | Right, I dont care necessarily care about the hangup I just want to prevent the Immediate busy tone or at least delay it.. Main reason is an ATA attached to a regular message recorder.. It records the immediate busy tone after hang up because I guess there is a delay after hang up on the message recorder side. |
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| 15:58.40 | clickonce | jameswf-home: Do you know how to match strings in the .ael file? I.e. if( ${EXTEN} == "001234") { doesn't work... and I can't find any information about it |
| 15:58.50 | [TK]D-Fender | spyder12345, why does this ATA have a recorder attached to it? |
| 15:59.20 | [TK]D-Fender | clickonce, virtually no-one uses AEL. |
| 15:59.47 | clickonce | agi? |
| 16:00.01 | [TK]D-Fender | ~agi |
| 16:00.02 | jbot | agi is, like, the Asterisk Gateway Interface... similar to CGI for web applications AGI lets you script call control and access databases using your favorite language. AGI wrappers are available for Python (pyst), Perl (astperl?) and other languages |
| 16:00.08 | clickonce | ah |
| 16:00.38 | jameswf-home | used agi to make my dial-a-distro box... |
| 16:00.48 | clickonce | heh |
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| 16:01.21 | spyder12345 | because the setup I have is where it rings my VOIP phones but then falls back to calling the message recorder where someone can leave a message.. I have the message recorder hooked to an ATA to convert it to VOIP obviously so that I can control it thru asterisk. |
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| 16:02.56 | mmurdock | spyder12345: Why don't you use voicemail? |
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| 16:03.57 | [TK]D-Fender | spyder12345, And why don't you just have ASTERISK record the message? |
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| 16:04.52 | spyder12345 | well two reasons... I have mainly analog phones connected to ATA's and as far as I know there is no indicator to show there is a voicemail left on the line with this setup. Second, is the ability to have someone leave a message and the people in the household being able to hear it as it is left. |
| 16:05.14 | spyder12345 | Cisco ATA's to be exact |
| 16:05.27 | [TK]D-Fender | spyder12345, Cisco ATA's can't do MWI? That sounds crazy |
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| 16:06.41 | patrick-- | exten => _[2][12345],1,Dial(mISDN/1/**2$(${EXTEN})) |
| 16:06.43 | jameswf-home | wow everyone seems to have their own version of this thin client.. |
| 16:06.46 | patrick-- | whats wrong with this extension? |
| 16:07.09 | [TK]D-Fender | patrick--, your barckets.... 2 sets of them actually. |
| 16:07.34 | [AMB] | Mmm, i was using dtmfmode=info lol xD |
| 16:07.36 | [TK]D-Fender | patrick--, You seem to failing rather dismally at understanding how to reference variables |
| 16:07.50 | patrick-- | seems so |
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| 16:08.33 | spyder12345 | Well, if they do have, I am not sure how to set it up to work with Asterisk.. |
| 16:09.34 | [TK]D-Fender | spyder12345, Did you set up their accounts to look at your mailbox? |
| 16:10.08 | patrick-- | exten => _[2][12345],1,Dial(mISDN/1/**2${$(EXTEN)}) |
| 16:10.09 | patrick-- | ? |
| 16:10.19 | [TK]D-Fender | patrick--, You tell me. |
| 16:10.24 | patrick-- | wont work |
| 16:10.54 | [TK]D-Fender | patrick--, Indeed you don't seem to be understanding variables at all. |
| 16:11.09 | patrick-- | thanks for the encouraging :) |
| 16:11.23 | [TK]D-Fender | patrick--, Never said you wouldn't get it, just thats where you are now. |
| 16:11.27 | jameswf-home | lol http://www.linutop.com/linutop2/shop/index.en.html |
| 16:11.44 | jameswf-home | do scrap that |
| 16:11.48 | [TK]D-Fender | patrick--, if you have a variable named "BOB", how would you get its contents? |
| 16:12.02 | jameswf-home | do over http://chickencrap.com/images/1199.jpg |
| 16:12.17 | spyder12345 | yes.. Let me look some more about the MWI on Cisco though.. Cause I don't know if there is a visual light that comes on with the ATA's or what.. The main thing I need is a visual indicator of messages.. That is why I was trying to incorporate the message recorder.. |
| 16:12.49 | patrick-- | ${BOB} prolly |
| 16:12.58 | [TK]D-Fender | spyder12345, the light is on your PHONE. |
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| 16:13.14 | [TK]D-Fender | patrick--, Correct. Now stop adding 15 extra brackets around it |
| 16:13.45 | patrick-- | but i want to add **2 to ${EXTEN} |
| 16:13.46 | mmurdock | spyder12345: Alot of phones have a light for when the phone rings or you missed a call, or you have voicemail. |
| 16:14.05 | [TK]D-Fender | patrick--, ... **2${EXTEN} |
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| 16:14.51 | spyder12345 | Yah but in that case I think I am definatley screwed.. Because the analog phones I have probably don't even support that... Let me research it somemore and see... Thanks for the good info.. |
| 16:14.51 | patrick-- | [TK]D-Fender: doesnt work for me.. |
| 16:15.12 | patrick-- | exten => _[2][12345],1,Dial(mISDN/1/**2$(EXTEN)}) |
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| 16:15.58 | [TK]D-Fender | patrick--, Where the hell did you see me add () brackets in mine? |
| 16:16.21 | [TK]D-Fender | patrick--, ... **2${EXTEN} <- watch the braces. Do those look like () to you? |
| 16:16.28 | patrick-- | sorry |
| 16:16.42 | [TK]D-Fender | patrick--, Yours don't even match on either side |
| 16:17.08 | mmurdock | spyder12345: The lights are ususually on phones that show caller id. |
| 16:17.41 | [TK]D-Fender | patrick--, $(EXTEN)} <- you start with a "(", then end with another ")" (both bad), then add a closing "}" that never even had an opening "}" to begin with. |
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| 16:18.15 | patrick-- | [TK]D-Fender: thanks, fixed it |
| 16:18.16 | [TK]D-Fender | patrick--, ${EXTEN} <-- how you reference a variable. No () brackets! |
| 16:18.21 | spyder12345 | On One last note.. What would my viable solutions be for having the message heard through a speaker of some sort as it is recorded.. Such as with a normal message recorder? |
| 16:18.40 | patrick-- | thx [TK]D-Fender |
| 16:18.52 | [TK]D-Fender | spyder12345, that requires real trickery. They really need to hear it as its left and can't wait till the end? |
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| 16:23.54 | spyder12345 | Yah with this setup it is preferred.... Basically the setup they currently have, they want duplicated with just the addition of having individual phone extensions using asterisk. Currently it rings in, goes to a message recorder, if it is someone important they pickup and grab the call.. Now grabbing the call is a different matter.. I was basically going to set it up so that it rang the users extensions, then went to the original |
| 16:23.54 | spyder12345 | analog message recorder and have a couple phones still connected via analog from which they could pick up on.. |
| 16:24.05 | ZPertee | any way to do a GoToIF call came in on zap/1? would save me a lot of repeat code |
| 16:24.21 | ZPertee | or any zap channel for that matter |
| 16:25.24 | [TK]D-Fender | ZPertee, Just do the GotoIf. |
| 16:25.27 | jameswf-home | spyder12345: this may be way in left field but there is a new technology called CALLER ID |
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| 16:26.29 | spyder12345 | lol... yah dont want to pay for it.. Already been that route.. :) |
| 16:26.49 | jameswf-home | wow seriously.... dont wanna pay $5 bucks? |
| 16:27.00 | spyder12345 | yep |
| 16:27.28 | jameswf-home | you can make callers self identify with a prompt please enter your phone number |
| 16:29.00 | ZPertee | [TK]D-Fender, I know how to do a gotoif statement just not how to do a if a call comes in on zap/1 go here if a call comes in on zap/2 go there, and so on. how would the gotoif statement look |
| 16:29.02 | jameswf-home | Okay I need a way to travel from point A to point B the points are 60miles apart and I need to get there in 1 hour.... but I cant use any technology |
| 16:29.03 | spyder12345 | hmm... yah thats an idea.. |
| 16:29.23 | [TK]D-Fender | ZPertee, You set each zaptel channel into its own context. End of story. |
| 16:30.56 | spyder12345 | Well, I will talk to them and see what they want to do.. Just wanted to throw it out there and see if anyone had any good ideas.. Thanks all for the help.. |
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| 16:32.16 | mmurdock | jameswf-home: In your zapata.conf. |
| 16:35.32 | ZPertee | [TK]D-Fender, I have an overhead pager system plugged into an fxo port. the only difference in the code is that if a call comes in on zap/1 i want it to say "sales line one" but if on Zap/2 "sales line two" etc. do I really have to have repeat code for each five telephone lines? can't I just follow along until I am ready to use the pager and then have it branch off acordingly to which line it comes in on? |
| 16:35.59 | jameswf-home | what? |
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| 16:39.31 | [TK]D-Fender | ZPertee, 1 context per line, 1 exten per line each with 1 priority which calls a macro passing the recording to play and proceed accordingly. |
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| 16:40.31 | ZPertee | [TK]D-Fender, ok makes sense thanks |
| 16:40.47 | pa | which was the url for that voip wiki? |
| 16:41.10 | [TK]D-Fender | ~wikis |
| 16:41.10 | jbot | [~wikis] VoIP Wiki covering Asterisk, FreeSWITCH, TrixBox, SER, OpenSER, sipX, CallWeaver, and YATE. http://www.voip-info.org (c) Arte Marketing Inc / CommPartners |
| 16:41.10 | mmurdock | pa: voip-info.org |
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| 16:41.17 | pa | ah thanks! |
| 16:42.57 | ZPertee | [TK]D-Fender, does something like this work: GotoIf("Zap/3"?line_three_page)? |
| 16:43.55 | [TK]D-Fender | ZPertee, My last idea didn't involve a GotoIf at all |
| 16:44.22 | ZPertee | I know. but know I am just curious if that would work or not. |
| 16:44.28 | [TK]D-Fender | ZPertee, And you don't seem to understand Asterisk Expressions based on your sample. |
| 16:45.11 | [TK]D-Fender | ZPertee, You could chop off part of the channel name to get the port and jump accordingly, or play a "variable" recording based on it. |
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| 16:45.54 | ZPertee | [TK}D-Fender, ok thanks. sorry to bother you curiosity just got the best of me |
| 16:46.47 | [TK]D-Fender | ZPertee, its typically best to put zap channels into their own context and if they are to end up needing to do the same thing, simply jump to that same place. |
| 16:47.18 | [TK]D-Fender | ZPertee, makes changing your mind about how to treat individual ports easier down the road and gives you an immediate sense of separation. |
| 16:47.28 | ZPertee | [TK}D-Fender, yeah that makes more sense, easier to follow, and is generally easier |
| 16:47.28 | russellb | GotoIf($[${CUT(CHANNEL,/,2)} = 3]?line_three_page) |
| 16:47.32 | russellb | something like that :-p |
| 16:47.51 | ZPertee | russellb, hey thanks! |
| 16:47.57 | russellb | but dont' use it :) |
| 16:48.01 | russellb | use contexts |
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| 16:48.24 | ZPertee | russellb, yeah but now my curiosity is satisfied |
| 16:48.29 | russellb | sweet |
| 16:48.32 | russellb | mine too |
| 16:48.49 | russellb | actually, that still won't work |
| 16:49.01 | russellb | because it won't be "Zap/3" it will be something like "Zap/3-1" |
| 16:49.22 | russellb | annnnyway |
| 16:49.40 | [TK]D-Fender | russellb, Actually.... being an FXO channel you can pretty much bet it'll always be "Zap/3-1" |
| 16:49.47 | russellb | that's true |
| 16:49.48 | [TK]D-Fender | russellb, thus negating the need for CUT at all |
| 16:49.56 | russellb | right |
| 16:50.01 | pa | i discovered yesterday the project Asterisk-GUI, which by the way seems quite young and i have properly installed but cant reach.. Now i discovered freepbx... which GUI for asterisk you advice me? |
| 16:50.14 | russellb | $["${CHANNEL(name)}" = "Zap/3-1"] or whatever |
| 16:50.50 | russellb | pa: are you sure you configured it right? |
| 16:50.56 | jameswf-home | ~gui |
| 16:50.56 | jbot | gui is, like, (Graphical User Interface) Any system that uses graphics to represent the functions of a program. All Windows operating systems are GUI. or point-and-drool, double-click, drag-and-drop, ... or at http://pla-netx.com/linebackn/guis/index.html. Of course Real Programmers use the command line interface. See cli |
| 16:50.58 | russellb | pa: run "make checkconfig" in the gui source dir |
| 16:51.12 | ZPertee | pa in freepbx you can't modify asterisk configs manually. personally i prefer asterisknow |
| 16:51.30 | pa | i did and it seems fine, but if i try to reach from browser i get "nothing to see here." |
| 16:51.37 | pa | so it's like i cant reach the page |
| 16:51.53 | russellb | probably the wrong URL |
| 16:52.06 | russellb | what URL did you use |
| 16:52.07 | pa | i copied from "make checkconfig" |
| 16:52.08 | [TK]D-Fender | ZPertee, Or a niftier : "Goto(page,${CHANNEL(name):4:1},1)" and make them like "exten => 3,1,NoOp(Yay, line 3!) |
| 16:52.22 | pa | http://rivendell:26001/asterisk/static/config/cfgbasic.html |
| 16:52.37 | pa | actually i used 127.0.0.1 instead of the hostname too |
| 16:52.37 | jameswf-home | that is incorrect you CAN manualy edit the configs if you do it their way, if you must use a GUI use a compiled solution like asterisknow or elastix |
| 16:52.40 | russellb | hm, ok, i'm not actually sure if cfgbasic.html still exists :) |
| 16:52.46 | russellb | pa: let me check real quick |
| 16:52.48 | pa | yes, there is there |
| 16:52.55 | pa | i mean in config-static directory |
| 16:53.06 | pa | i tried also cfgadvanced or other pages |
| 16:54.35 | russellb | /var/lib/asterisk/static-http right? |
| 16:55.38 | pa | yes |
| 16:56.00 | pa | /var/lib/asterisk/static-http/config/ |
| 16:56.14 | russellb | right |
| 16:56.27 | russellb | running asterisk as root? |
| 16:56.30 | pa | yes |
| 16:57.13 | russellb | run "http show status" |
| 16:57.29 | russellb | the prefix should show "/asterisk", and you should see /asterisk/static as an enabled URI |
| 16:58.03 | russellb | you should also see "Server Enabled" or whatever ... |
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| 16:58.08 | pa | umh |
| 16:58.11 | pa | from where? |
| 16:58.13 | pa | i mean |
| 16:58.14 | russellb | the asterisk CLI |
| 16:58.16 | pa | http show status |
| 16:58.18 | pa | ah |
| 16:58.25 | pa | ok so, i launch asterisk -f |
| 16:58.29 | pa | then asterisk-cli? |
| 16:58.40 | russellb | um ... |
| 16:58.53 | russellb | i assume if you're trying to test the GUI, asterisk is already running |
| 16:58.56 | russellb | so, run asterisk -r |
| 16:58.59 | russellb | to connect to it ... |
| 16:59.04 | russellb | *CLI> http show status |
| 16:59.15 | pa | ok |
| 16:59.21 | pa | ok |
| 16:59.27 | russellb | but honestly, if you want to use it, try asterisknow ... and save yourself all of this trouble :) |
| 16:59.33 | pa | Server Enabled and Bound to 0.0.0.0:26001 |
| 16:59.47 | pa | i actually tried also to bound to 0.0.0.0 |
| 16:59.49 | pa | just in case |
| 16:59.51 | pa | but nothing |
| 17:00.04 | pa | well, i have my ubuntu already configured |
| 17:00.14 | pa | with some tons of services :) |
| 17:00.23 | pa | Prefix: /asterisk |
| 17:00.47 | pa | /asterisk/static/... => Asterisk HTTP Static Delivery |
| 17:01.27 | russellb | and you have enabled and webenabled set to yes in manager.conf as well? |
| 17:01.32 | russellb | this is usually trivial to install :) |
| 17:01.41 | pa | yes |
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| 17:01.51 | pa | i enabled it in manager.conf and http.conf |
| 17:02.04 | russellb | echo "hello!" > /var/lib/asterisk/static-http/hello.txt |
| 17:02.13 | russellb | http://..../asterisk/static/hello.txt |
| 17:02.55 | pa | it cant find it too |
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| 17:03.07 | russellb | well damnit |
| 17:03.25 | russellb | maybe asterisk is looking in the wrong directory ... |
| 17:03.33 | outtolunc | doesn't ubuntu use /var/www ? |
| 17:03.33 | pa | yes, probably |
| 17:03.43 | pa | ubuntu? |
| 17:03.43 | russellb | outtolunc: this is the asterisk built-in http server |
| 17:03.53 | russellb | pa: how did you install asterisk? |
| 17:04.02 | pa | i did through apt-get install |
| 17:04.06 | outtolunc | sorry obviously missed parts of this convo |
| 17:04.12 | pa | while i installed asterisk-gui from the tar |
| 17:04.13 | jameswf-home | :)) |
| 17:04.16 | russellb | i bet the package uses a different directory |
| 17:04.34 | jameswf-home | ln -s foo bar |
| 17:04.44 | pa | umh.. how to find it out? |
| 17:04.44 | russellb | pa: check /etc/asterisk/asterisk.conf |
| 17:04.46 | pa | ok |
| 17:04.47 | andrewn | in extensions.ael, why would "switch (${EXTEN:2:3}) {" cause ${EXTEN} to revert back to the pattern string _1NXXNXXXXXX instead of the actual number dialed? If I comment out this switch statement it stays the number dialed |
| 17:04.48 | pa | sec |
| 17:05.04 | russellb | pa: and see what astvarlibdir is set to |
| 17:05.17 | pa | astvarlibdir => /var/lib/asterisk |
| 17:05.25 | russellb | err, astdatadir |
| 17:05.30 | Docfxit | When I sign in through ssh how can I get to the CLI? |
| 17:05.35 | pa | umg |
| 17:05.38 | pa | dont hav eit |
| 17:05.44 | mmurdock | Docfxit: Asterisk cli? |
| 17:05.51 | Docfxit | yes |
| 17:05.54 | mmurdock | Docfxit: asterisk -r |
| 17:06.00 | pa | i can add |
| 17:06.01 | Docfxit | Tx. |
| 17:06.09 | pa | do i have to add /var/lib/asterisk ? |
| 17:06.11 | russellb | pa: add astdatadir => /var/lib/asterisk under astvarlibdir |
| 17:06.23 | pa | thanks! let me try |
| 17:06.31 | russellb | pa: and you have to restart asterisk for it to take effect |
| 17:07.06 | pa | i did |
| 17:07.13 | Docfxit | Unable to connect to remote asterisk (does /var/run/asterisk.ctl exist?) |
| 17:07.23 | pa | but i still cant reach that from the broweser |
| 17:07.29 | russellb | >_< |
| 17:08.05 | pa | i copied astvarlibdir in astdatadir |
| 17:08.06 | pa | right? |
| 17:08.10 | russellb | yeah |
| 17:08.12 | pa | just under it |
| 17:08.21 | pa | so i have astdatadir => /var/lib/asterisk |
| 17:08.34 | mmurdock | Hey russellb on your blog your latest post mentions T.38 termination in asterisk addon 1.6b2, does that mean asterisk can now send and recieve fax's? |
| 17:08.36 | russellb | pa: and you totally restarted asterisk? not just reconnected to the CLI? |
| 17:08.55 | pa | yes, restarted asterisk -f |
| 17:09.14 | pa | in one screen |
| 17:09.19 | russellb | mmurdock: yeah. you could always send/receive faxes using spandsp. but now we have an app in asterisk that uses spandsp that can also originate and terminate T.38 faxes |
| 17:09.36 | russellb | pa: gotcha ... well ... i would say install asterisk from source :) |
| 17:09.39 | russellb | because i _know_ this works |
| 17:09.45 | pa | :) |
| 17:09.46 | pa | anyways |
| 17:09.51 | pa | you suggest |
| 17:09.52 | russellb | but that package has a crapton of changes and i don't feel like going to look |
| 17:10.01 | pa | you suggest me asterisk-gui as a config gui for asterisk? |
| 17:10.05 | russellb | haha |
| 17:10.09 | mmurdock | @russellb: Where would you suggest I look to find out more information on this? |
| 17:10.15 | russellb | i suggest that you evaluate it to see if it fits your needs |
| 17:10.24 | pa | ok :) |
| 17:10.24 | russellb | the 2 that i suggest are the asterisk-gui or switchvox |
| 17:10.36 | russellb | mmurdock: i don't know if there is any more information :) |
| 17:10.58 | russellb | but if you install asterisk and asterisk-addons 1.6, and have spandsp installed, you will have an app_fax that can do it |
| 17:11.10 | pa | thanks for the help anyways ! strange behaviour tough |
| 17:11.20 | russellb | pa: indeed, sorry i couldn't fix it |
| 17:11.32 | mmurdock | @russellb: I've never played with spandsp, so I better check that out first. |
| 17:12.34 | mmurdock | @russellb: BTW I enjoy your blog. It's a great place to stay up to date. :) |
| 17:12.45 | russellb | thanks! |
| 17:13.38 | ZPertee | russellb where is your blog? |
| 17:13.43 | russellb | www.russellbryant.net |
| 17:14.13 | russellb | jbot: russellb is also http://www.russellbryant.net/ |
| 17:14.13 | jbot | russellb: okay |
| 17:14.50 | ZPertee | russellb, thanks I'll take a look around when I get a chance |
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| 17:15.25 | ZPertee | is jbot something that anybody can use or is it somebody I am confused |
| 17:15.41 | russellb | it's a bot :) |
| 17:15.51 | ZPertee | is there any info on how to use it |
| 17:15.56 | pa | maybe if there is some unofficial updated ubuntu pkgs for asterisk-gui? :) |
| 17:15.56 | russellb | heh, not really |
| 17:16.00 | russellb | jbot: die |
| 17:16.00 | jbot | ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless. |
| 17:16.08 | ZPertee | ha ha |
| 17:16.23 | russellb | ~thwack jbot |
| 17:16.24 | jbot | ACTION smacks jbot on the head with a Holy Bible |
| 17:16.35 | russellb | of course, it has a lot of useful information stored, too ... |
| 17:16.56 | russellb | ~roulette |
| 17:16.56 | jbot | ACTION watches russellb pull the trigger: Click! |
| 17:16.59 | outtolunc | do the book do the book <G> |
| 17:17.11 | russellb | ~thebook |
| 17:17.12 | jbot | Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com |
| 17:17.30 | seanbright | ~gs |
| 17:17.31 | jbot | GrandSuck phones & gateways are cheap junk which should be avoided with extreme prejudice. |
| 17:17.44 | seanbright | that's weak... |
| 17:17.48 | ZPertee | haha that is a good one |
| 17:17.53 | outtolunc | ~yeahyeahsuresure |
| 17:18.00 | outtolunc | dang |
| 17:18.09 | thedonvaughn | ~polycom |
| 17:18.10 | jbot | well, polycom is the manufacturer of one of the best IP phones in the market. http://polycom.com - Note: Here is where you can get some downloads: http://www.polycom.com/resource_center/0,,pw-6812-12612,00.html |
| 17:18.24 | thedonvaughn | i've had _NOTHING_ but trouble with polycom 430s in my office |
| 17:18.26 | thedonvaughn | had to send 'em back |
| 17:18.29 | thedonvaughn | just fyi :) |
| 17:18.33 | seanbright | jbot is known to be extremely impartial, obviously. |
| 17:18.52 | seanbright | jbot: you are a corporate shill. |
| 17:18.52 | jbot | seanbright: what are you talking about? |
| 17:18.57 | seanbright | heh |
| 17:19.04 | ZPertee | basically try something and if it works great, if not try something else and learn as you go with jbot |
| 17:19.06 | mmurdock | ~snom |
| 17:19.07 | jbot | i heard snom is like all German products. High quality, but wacky engineering. :) |
| 17:19.17 | mmurdock | hahaha |
| 17:19.21 | jameswf-home | lmao so Jeremy McNamara's blog has a user readability deal on it... I ran it on Kerry g's blog it came back elementry school |
| 17:19.28 | mmurdock | I actually have about 100 snom's in the field. I like them. |
| 17:19.32 | russellb | jameswf-home: lol! |
| 17:19.45 | russellb | i think mine came back as high school :-/ |
| 17:20.10 | jameswf-home | I am at Jr High :) |
| 17:20.14 | jameswf-home | I feel so dumb |
| 17:20.31 | jameswf-home | but kicks the crap out of elementry |
| 17:20.32 | russellb | he must be putting SIP packet traces in his blog |
| 17:20.43 | russellb | that would confuse that tool :) |
| 17:21.20 | jameswf-home | I have severel videos maybe that dumbs it down |
| 17:23.35 | [TK]D-Fender | russellb, Yes..... Kerry G IS a tool ;) |
| 17:23.59 | [TK]D-Fender | russellb, And far from the sharpest in the shed! |
| 17:24.10 | russellb | that's not what i said, but ok :) |
| 17:25.02 | jameswf-home | MarkShuttleworth.com only gets college level so I dont feel as bad cause that dude is probably way smarter than me.... |
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| 17:39.56 | jameswf-home | I have to fly wendsday I hope the eastcoast weather crap clears up |
| 17:40.12 | seanbright | where you flying to ? |
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| 17:40.44 | jameswf-home | South Carolina by way of Atlanta... Atlanta to SC how poinless is that leg |
| 17:40.57 | seanbright | delta? |
| 17:41.37 | jameswf-home | AirTran |
| 17:41.41 | seanbright | ah |
| 17:42.00 | seanbright | i flew from baltimore to gainesville and had to stop in atlanta |
| 17:42.10 | seanbright | worthless |
| 17:42.45 | seanbright | my first flight ever, actually. |
| 17:42.47 | jameswf-home | atl must have gone to bed with someone to make all flights go through there |
| 17:43.06 | obnauticus | Is it possible to use GSMFR on asterisk? |
| 17:43.13 | seanbright | switched to a puddle jumper in atlanta and i got to sit right next to the prop... that wasn't scary at all |
| 17:47.03 | jameswf-home | I have never flown before... looks like Ill be doing a bt of flying for work now... |
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| 17:48.47 | obnauticus | can anyone here help me with this problem |
| 17:48.47 | obnauticus | [Feb 23 12:46:44] WARNING[4070]: channel.c:2734 set_format: Unable to find a codec translation path from g729 to gsm |
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| 17:48.58 | seanbright | jameswf-home: never flown? like ever? |
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| 17:49.57 | lmadsen | obnauticus: you don't have a g.729 codec license, so no transcoding is allowed |
| 17:50.10 | lmadsen | or you've run out of licenses |
| 17:50.12 | obnauticus | where does one obtain one. |
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| 17:50.36 | lmadsen | http://store.digium.com/productview.php?category_id=5&product_code=8G729CODEC&main_category_id=5 |
| 17:50.37 | brainy_ | hi there |
| 17:50.59 | codejunky | Hello, is it possible to play a custom sound on a sip 404 error, when the caller dials an unknown number? |
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| 17:51.16 | Wayhigh | stevetotaro:hey man.. thanks for showing me how to use the asterisk cli.. I never knew just how useful it could be but I just solved a long-standing problem because of your help. |
| 17:51.24 | brainy_ | codejunky: you just need a exten => i,1,Playback(xxx) |
| 17:51.34 | jameswf-home | yea never been on a plane that didnt have its wheels chocked |
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| 17:51.42 | codejunky | brainy_: okay, I will try, thx |
| 17:52.12 | brainy_ | codejunky: the i-extension will be used for invalid extensions e.g. non-existing ones |
| 17:52.16 | seanbright | jameswf-home: good luck and god speed :) |
| 17:52.52 | land0 | Is there a resource available that could help me to determine which Digium product would best fit my business needs? |
| 17:52.56 | codejunky | brainy_: hm, okay, that is not exactly what I want because I have connected asterisk to a sip provider and the provider gives asterisk a 404 |
| 17:53.09 | SteveTotaro | Wayhigh: Now it is time to learn the AMI ;) |
| 17:53.19 | brainy_ | hm, i have a BN4S0 ISDN Card with mISDN .. everything looks good but the mISDN uses a lot of cpu when a call is active.. i'm not sure if this is a common problem or a configuration problem |
| 17:54.12 | brainy_ | codejunky: ah, ok.. maybe you can use the HANGUPCAUSE variables in your dialplan |
| 17:54.38 | brainy_ | codejunky: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk+variable+hangupcause |
| 17:54.39 | obnauticus | lmadsen it's saying i cannot translate |
| 17:54.40 | obnauticus | but im uhh |
| 17:54.45 | obnauticus | im just trying to doa call |
| 17:54.48 | obnauticus | g729 <-> g729 |
| 17:54.57 | lmadsen | obnauticus: no.... one party is gsm, one is g729 |
| 17:55.00 | lmadsen | that is transcoding |
| 17:55.02 | Dovid | what does: manager.c: Accept returned -1: Too many open files mean ? |
| 17:55.03 | lmadsen | that is not allowed without a license |
| 17:55.06 | obnauticus | Well i need help though |
| 17:55.07 | obnauticus | then* |
| 17:55.10 | codejunky | brainy_: i will take a look at it, thanks |
| 17:55.11 | obnauticus | i understand it's sayiung that |
| 17:55.12 | Wayhigh | AMI.. isn't that the hot chick with huge boobs we saw? |
| 17:55.12 | obnauticus | but it shouldn |
| 17:55.15 | obnauticus | it should not be |
| 17:55.25 | seanbright | Dovid: check your ulimit |
| 17:55.43 | seanbright | Dovid: you should up the open files cap for asterisk |
| 17:55.43 | lmadsen | obnauticus: it shouldn't, but it is, and you can verify the codecs that are being offered by the endpoints by looking at the sip trace |
| 17:55.52 | obnauticus | how do i do that? |
| 17:55.55 | obnauticus | sip debug |
| 17:55.57 | lmadsen | obnauticus: yes |
| 17:56.04 | brainy_ | codejunky: regarding the docs it should do what you want.. you just have to check the hangupcause in the dialplan then jump somewhere else to notice the use |
| 17:56.08 | brainy_ | user |
| 17:56.19 | Dovid | seanbright: ulimit is ? |
| 17:56.35 | seanbright | Dovid: `man ulimit` |
| 17:57.26 | Wayhigh | m/sg stevetotaro buy.com has a 10/100 24port switch for $19 shipped |
| 17:57.51 | russellb | m/sg seanbright what are you wearing? |
| 17:57.52 | obnauticus | Capabilities: us - 0x106 (gsm|ulaw|g729), peer - audio=0x502 (gsm|g729|ilbc)/video=0x0 (nothing), combined - 0x102 (gsm|g729) |
| 17:57.52 | obnauticus | Non-codec capabilities (dtmf): us - 0x1 (telephone-event), peer - 0x1 (telephone-event), combined - 0x1 (telephone-event) |
| 17:57.52 | russellb | oh crap |
| 17:57.58 | seanbright | Dovid: each unix process has a set of limits that it can't exceeded. ulimit let's you change that value. |
| 17:58.06 | russellb | stupid typos ... |
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| 17:58.42 | jameswf-home | lmao |
| 17:58.44 | seanbright | m/sg russellb i always IRC naked |
| 17:58.46 | seanbright | heh |
| 17:58.49 | SteveTotaro | good deal on the switch |
| 17:58.51 | obnauticus | lmadsen did you see that? |
| 17:59.13 | Wayhigh | yeah.. I keep track of good deals.. I may replace my extreme switch with it instead.. |
| 17:59.18 | SteveTotaro | i bought a dell 24 GigE web managed for ~$250 |
| 17:59.23 | Wayhigh | the extreme is nice but it's kinda overkill |
| 17:59.32 | lmadsen | obnauticus: gsm is being offered first it seems |
| 17:59.42 | obnauticus | how do i disable that? |
| 17:59.43 | obnauticus | i mean |
| 17:59.45 | obnauticus | : |
| 17:59.45 | obnauticus | \ |
| 17:59.52 | Wayhigh | 24GigE is nice.. I got a 8 port gigE unmanaged w/ metal case for $40 a while back |
| 17:59.55 | tzanger | are there any known probelms with asterisk 1.4 tryign to register to asterisk 1.2 (SIP) ? I get bad auth but the secrets are good |
| 18:00.02 | obnauticus | also lmadsen is there a plugin of some sort for GSMFR |
| 18:00.57 | Wayhigh | I've got a cisco catalyst 3200 I'm not using too.. it has like 2 oc3 jacks on it and 8 10/100 but ya know.. no reason to fire it up at the moment |
| 18:01.06 | russellb | tzanger: not known, no ... seems like something we'd hear about quickly |
| 18:01.12 | russellb | tzanger: but it's possible |
| 18:01.14 | Wayhigh | <-- collects hardware |
| 18:01.16 | SteveTotaro | i bought this bad boy http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&cs=04&kc=6W300&l=en&oc=bccwhk1&s=bsd |
| 18:02.12 | Wayhigh | dude.. I'm so going to have to buy one of those |
| 18:02.17 | Wayhigh | even if it is from Dell |
| 18:02.28 | obnauticus | ew |
| 18:02.31 | SteveTotaro | dell has come a long way with switches |
| 18:02.31 | obnauticus | Get a PowerCurve |
| 18:02.31 | russellb | dude, you're getting ..... nevermind .... |
| 18:02.34 | obnauticus | or a Cisco cwitch. |
| 18:02.42 | Qwell | russellb: arrested for possession? :p |
| 18:02.43 | obnauticus | I would never buy networking components from dell |
| 18:02.43 | obnauticus | ew. |
| 18:02.49 | russellb | Qwell: lol, yes :) |
| 18:02.51 | Qwell | ^^ Dell guy |
| 18:02.56 | Wayhigh | "Dell" translates to "betta have yo warranty beeeootch" |
| 18:03.07 | SteveTotaro | for a switch, common |
| 18:03.15 | Qwell | russellb: that guy will never live that one down |
| 18:03.22 | russellb | totally |
| 18:03.35 | SteveTotaro | what did they expect, he was a pot posterchild |
| 18:04.08 | outtolunc | doob is so close to dude <G> |
| 18:04.33 | Wayhigh | here's a funny Dell story for ya.. my friend has this dell laptop and the screen hardware connection broke.. so she didn't know the warranty would cover it.. she got a new computer.. had me fixing her old one and I was like "well.. why don't you have dell fix the screen of your old one?".. so she calls them up and find out the warranty ran out 4 DAYS AGO.. |
| 18:04.39 | tzanger | that's really weird |
| 18:04.44 | tzanger | SIP OPTIONS gets through |
| 18:04.46 | Wayhigh | and since she told them about the broken screen.. they wont renew it |
| 18:04.56 | tzanger | but an INVITE is not seen by the 1.2 asterisk box |
| 18:07.13 | tzanger | I bet it's a "smart" firewall |
| 18:07.38 | *** join/#asterisk ZPertee (n=ZPertee@cpe-98-27-248-172.neo.res.rr.com) |
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| 18:08.35 | obnauticus | smart firewall? |
| 18:08.36 | obnauticus | wtf |
| 18:08.47 | obnauticus | IDS + other services = smart firewall+ing |
| 18:08.51 | obnauticus | and filter+ing |
| 18:09.28 | SteveTotaro | the web interface on this dell switch makes cisco look stupid |
| 18:09.41 | SteveTotaro | why did i bother getting my ccna in 96? |
| 18:09.42 | obnauticus | LOL |
| 18:09.46 | obnauticus | that statment made you look stupid. |
| 18:09.53 | obnauticus | Web interface < CLI |
| 18:10.00 | SteveTotaro | ok guy, i am a cisco guy |
| 18:10.03 | obnauticus | k |
| 18:10.05 | obnauticus | so am I |
| 18:10.36 | SteveTotaro | but that dell switch is rock solid, has all the features of cisco, easy to configure, and has cli too |
| 18:10.45 | obnauticus | then go for it |
| 18:10.47 | SteveTotaro | can't beat the price either |
| 18:10.53 | SteveTotaro | i already did go for it |
| 18:10.57 | *** join/#asterisk Datax (n=Datax@glou.nurvnet.org) |
| 18:11.02 | obnauticus | <3 |
| 18:11.04 | SteveTotaro | it has been in production for at least nine months |
| 18:11.04 | Datax | Hi all |
| 18:11.29 | Datax | I have a wifi cisco 7921 phone but it only dials the first digit |
| 18:11.32 | Datax | any idea why ? |
| 18:14.16 | SteveTotaro | the dialplan on the phone |
| 18:14.51 | Datax | ah |
| 18:15.04 | SteveTotaro | does the cisco work like the polycom? dial the number with the handset in the cradle and then hit send |
| 18:15.33 | SteveTotaro | or dial |
| 18:15.37 | Datax | I thought of that and had a look at the files it was trying to pull off the tftp server but it doesn't seem to be looking for a dialplan file |
| 18:15.45 | Datax | whats a polycom ? |
| 18:15.51 | SteveTotaro | a phone |
| 18:15.56 | SteveTotaro | it has a dialplan |
| 18:15.57 | Datax | ah ok ^^ |
| 18:16.31 | pa | no way to get log from asterisk http server? |
| 18:16.34 | SteveTotaro | but the dialplan can be bypassed if you dial before you have dialtone and then press the softkey dial or send or whatever it is |
| 18:16.40 | pa | i tried -vvvvvv but no log on the console |
| 18:16.47 | pa | (for the http part) |
| 18:16.47 | Datax | SteveTotaro: I'll try that now |
| 18:17.21 | Datax | SteveTotaro: doesn't look as if it is possible to get a dial tone without having entered a number before |
| 18:17.45 | SteveTotaro | if you press a button it doesn't show? |
| 18:18.10 | Datax | yes |
| 18:18.23 | SteveTotaro | just dial the number then hit send or dial |
| 18:18.26 | Datax | but when I hit the dial key it only takes the first digit in to account |
| 18:18.50 | SteveTotaro | have you tried different first digits? |
| 18:19.00 | Datax | nope will do now |
| 18:19.13 | Datax | same problem |
| 18:19.26 | SteveTotaro | did you try all the digits? |
| 18:19.36 | SteveTotaro | what does the cli show? |
| 18:19.41 | Wayhigh | dude.. snakes on a plane is on.. sweet |
| 18:20.44 | seanbright | there's mother f**kin' snakes on this mother f**kin' plane! |
| 18:21.14 | Datax | SteveTotaro: http://pastebin.com/d679ec8bc |
| 18:22.05 | pa | russellb, couldnt i try to move the /var/lib/asterisk/static-http/config into an apache httpd docroot ? |
| 18:22.08 | pa | to use it i mean |
| 18:22.39 | SteveTotaro | datax, i have no idea about skinny, why not convert them to sip? |
| 18:22.49 | Datax | the 7921 doesn't have a sip firmware |
| 18:23.11 | Datax | I also use 7961 phones and those are running SIP since a SIP firmware is available for it |
| 18:25.23 | land0 | ;) |
| 18:26.09 | Paladine | my missus bought a really bad budget dvd from a market the other week thinking it was a transformers movie (it was called transmorphers but she is dyslexic) |
| 18:26.16 | Paladine | serious budget movie |
| 18:26.26 | Paladine | and it had a trailer for a budget movie called Snakes on a Train |
| 18:26.36 | Paladine | god help us all |
| 18:26.53 | land0 | LOL |
| 18:27.30 | Paladine | imagine a Revenge of the Killer Tomatoes`esque Snakes on a Plane movie but egads, on a train |
| 18:27.35 | *** join/#asterisk AJaymn (n=Me@71-82-218-158.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com) |
| 18:27.43 | AJaymn | how can i tell what version of Zaptel is running? |
| 18:30.27 | land0 | Paladine: I heard Westley Snipes was replacing Samuel Jackson in the trains sequel. :D I guess he was hard up for cash. ;) |
| 18:31.10 | Paladine | hehehehe |
| 18:31.46 | Paladine | you mean Jackson doesn't want to do the sequal despite the excellent performance in SOAP? |
| 18:32.06 | land0 | LOL |
| 18:32.10 | Paladine | I was surprised he didn't get an oscar |
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| 18:32.16 | Paladine | no really I was |
| 18:32.29 | land0 | There was only one good line in that movie |
| 18:32.33 | land0 | IMO |
| 18:32.42 | chigital | hi |
| 18:32.59 | Paladine | not because he deserved it, but because for a movie with such a ridiculous plot and title to actually do well at the box office, they must have been slipping the audience a mickey in the buckets of cinema soda |
| 18:33.15 | land0 | shhhhhhh |
| 18:33.22 | land0 | you will reveal too much |
| 18:33.26 | Paladine | hehehe |
| 18:33.36 | Paladine | all your ghb are belong to Sony |
| 18:33.57 | land0 | roflol |
| 18:34.00 | chigital | i have a problem with zaptel and a motorola sm56 softmodem/winmodem. is there a chance |
| 18:34.00 | Paladine | this is kinda asterisk related right? |
| 18:34.07 | Paladine | in a roundabout way |
| 18:34.16 | land0 | ;);) |
| 18:34.23 | Paladine | if they had had voip on the plane they could have confused the snakes |
| 18:34.59 | Paladine | actually thats a good movie title "VOIP on a Plane" |
| 18:35.22 | land0 | that would be a great service |
| 18:35.36 | land0 | if the airlines could pull it off |
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| 18:35.41 | land0 | seriously |
| 18:35.44 | Paladine | hehehe use your sssssssssssip phones to kill the snakes ;) |
| 18:36.17 | Daejeo | no audio for incoming? vtwhite-ITSP |
| 18:36.39 | Daejeo | anyone can help? |
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| 18:40.51 | Paladine | I caught and ate a rattlesnake in sonoma once |
| 18:41.09 | Paladine | bbq'd it first of course |
| 18:41.18 | tzanger | wow that is fucked up |
| 18:41.27 | tzanger | I have an asterisk box no nat, no nothing |
| 18:41.32 | Paladine | actually it was pretty darn good |
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| 18:41.38 | tzanger | I have a home * box that is also no nat |
| 18:41.54 | tzanger | I can make a sip call from home* to remote* THROUGH middle* without issue |
| 18:42.04 | BBHoss | THROUGH*? |
| 18:42.16 | tzanger | however twinkle, behind nat, cannot call remote* through middle*, middle* cannot reach remote* |
| 18:42.16 | BBHoss | thats odd |
| 18:42.38 | BBHoss | have you tried iax2 just for kicks? |
| 18:42.40 | tzanger | home <-- no nat --> middle <-- no nat --> remote == goodness |
| 18:42.50 | brainy_ | does someone know if the TE* ISDN Cards from Digium are active or passive cards? |
| 18:42.59 | tzanger | twinkle <-- nat --> middle <-- no nat --> remote == middle cannot get to remote |
| 18:43.53 | Wayhigh | I got mad at a couple hoodlums in a pet store last week cause they were talking about killing a copperhead |
| 18:43.59 | tzanger | the question is why does middle miss remote when that connection is not changing? |
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| 18:44.18 | Wayhigh | and about copperheads being dangerous and stuff.. I was like 'fucking idiots.. they're only midly venemous and don't bother you if you don't bother them' |
| 18:45.16 | Paladine | Wayhigh, I used to look after pythons with gum rot in my local reptile store when I was a kid and at the time I ate the diamond back I owned a pair of California King Snakes too (male and female) |
| 18:45.19 | Paladine | so I love snakes |
| 18:45.19 | BBHoss | what about cottonmouths |
| 18:45.24 | Paladine | but I am also a carnivore |
| 18:47.22 | tzanger | the invites are identical |
| 18:47.27 | pkunkra | hey wayhigh, by chance, did you once live in santa cruz? |
| 18:47.35 | Wayhigh | yeah man |
| 18:47.38 | Wayhigh | that's me |
| 18:48.00 | tzanger | oh wait, I'm dumb |
| 18:48.00 | tzanger | haha |
| 18:49.12 | Paladine | I asked santa to give me penelope cruz for xmas but he didn't |
| 18:50.45 | blitzrage | that's because I asked first |
| 18:53.19 | chigital | can anyone help |
| 18:55.28 | SteveTotaro | penelope is my high school friend's ex girl |
| 18:55.51 | SteveTotaro | oh sorry wrong, it was that other attractive spanish girl |
| 18:56.15 | SteveTotaro | from Dogma, can't remember her name now |
| 18:57.11 | Nasra | hello SteveTotaro: |
| 18:57.29 | SteveTotaro | hello |
| 18:57.41 | Nasra | doing okay today I guess.... |
| 18:57.57 | Nasra | dreaming with those spanish girls.....you.. |
| 18:59.03 | Paladine | selma hiack or however you spell her last name? |
| 18:59.12 | SteveTotaro | yeah that's it |
| 18:59.45 | SteveTotaro | damn Ed Norton, he was such a dork in school, if he were not a Rouse, he would never had made the bigtime |
| 18:59.52 | Paladine | I used to know a very good friend of Kevin Smith's heheh |
| 18:59.55 | Paladine | (dogma) |
| 19:00.01 | Paladine | he actually had a cameo in dogma |
| 19:00.29 | Paladine | Bob Shrek (vp of sales at DC Comics) |
| 19:00.53 | Paladine | now someone do a link to shrek ;) |
| 19:01.19 | obnauticus | Anoyne here know where this could be comming from, from a2billing |
| 19:01.20 | obnauticus | [Feb 23 13:57:32] NOTICE[4041]: chan_sip.c:12180 handle_response_invite: Failed to authenticate on INVITE to '"1" <sip:1@67.205.74.168>;tag=as795c269d' |
| 19:01.34 | obnauticus | i cannot find registry information for the username `1` in any of my configuration files. |
| 19:01.47 | obnauticus | therefore i have no idea where the call is going lulz. |
| 19:01.54 | obnauticus | or where the registration information is |
| 19:02.26 | *** join/#asterisk JunK-Y (n=junky@modemcable183.17-83-70.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 19:02.34 | obnauticus | It's not in extensions.conf either |
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| 19:18.42 | gr0mit | hi - anyone used astmanproxy? |
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| 19:31.16 | Wayhigh | the score is now Wayhigh:5 Mice:0 |
| 19:32.05 | Wayhigh | I apparently got the momma mouse the other day.. so the little ones are coming out looking dazed and confused |
| 19:32.13 | Wayhigh | I just tossed their ass outside |
| 19:34.43 | Paladine | I don't get why people kill/get rid of mice |
| 19:34.55 | Paladine | its not like they do anything apart from eat paper and leave the odd dropping |
| 19:34.58 | Paladine | I find them rather cute |
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| 19:41.23 | Wayhigh | paladine: wife acceptance factor |
| 19:41.47 | Wayhigh | and we have birds.. they leave food on the floor.. if we didn't we'd be overrun in a short time |
| 19:41.47 | Paladine | ahhhh |
| 19:42.01 | drmessano | Yeah, nothing unsanitary about mice droppings |
| 19:42.08 | drmessano | Ever heard of the PLAGUE |
| 19:42.22 | Wayhigh | dr: are you serious? |
| 19:43.11 | drmessano | About the plague |
| 19:43.26 | Wayhigh | yeah.. cause it's showing a gross lack of knowledge |
| 19:43.36 | drmessano | Sure.. You think getting rid of a cold is bad, try getting rid if death |
| 19:44.01 | Wayhigh | "Infection in a human occurs when a person is bitten by a flea that has been infected by biting a rodent that itself has been infected by the bite of a flea carrying the disease." <-- wikipedia |
| 19:44.03 | drmessano | I'm always serious about plagues |
| 19:44.22 | drmessano | Fleas? |
| 19:44.31 | drmessano | That's what the CIA wants you to think |
| 19:44.36 | Wayhigh | fleas and ticks were the carriers of the plague.. not droppings |
| 19:44.52 | drmessano | Tell me something |
| 19:44.56 | Wayhigh | mouse droppings ARE bad because they have been linked to some diseases |
| 19:45.09 | drmessano | When you go to the store and look at pet supplies |
| 19:45.21 | drmessano | What are the most common supplies for pets, next to food |
| 19:45.36 | Wayhigh | water :) |
| 19:45.38 | drmessano | Flea powder, flea collars, flea spray |
| 19:45.39 | blitzrage | so is the air we breathe because of the chemicals we burn and release into the atmosphere from vehicles and plants |
| 19:45.51 | blitzrage | just living will kill you :) |
| 19:46.03 | Wayhigh | I get rid of mice because of WAF and because of Hanta virus |
| 19:46.10 | Wayhigh | these little babies I just tossed out were cute |
| 19:46.15 | drmessano | Flea powers, sprays, and collars are what the CIA uses for their mind control, and they disguise it as something to help keep your precious pet healthy |
| 19:46.30 | drmessano | People fear fleas, and who would argue.. especially when it comes to helping their pers |
| 19:46.34 | drmessano | pets* |
| 19:46.34 | Wayhigh | I made sure to play with them a bit (in a nice way) before putting them outside in the freezing cold |
| 19:46.37 | pa | how can i check where the asterisk http server docroot points? |
| 19:46.55 | *** join/#asterisk ZPertee (n=ZPertee@cpe-98-27-248-172.neo.res.rr.com) |
| 19:46.57 | Wayhigh | they're goners anyways.. I killed their mom |
| 19:47.48 | Paladine | drmessano, I dunno about you, but I am not in the habit of ingesting mouse droppings or picking them up with my fingers for an inquisitive inspection |
| 19:47.57 | drmessano | pa: Wrong channel |
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| 19:48.18 | drmessano | Dude, there's mouse droppings in the food you eat |
| 19:48.18 | Paladine | mouse dropping + vacuum cleaner = cure for plague :p |
| 19:48.28 | Paladine | dude there isn't |
| 19:48.31 | pa | drmessano, ??? |
| 19:48.32 | drmessano | Heh |
| 19:48.34 | drmessano | Yes there is |
| 19:48.41 | Paladine | no there isn't lol |
| 19:48.45 | pa | wrong channel????? |
| 19:48.48 | drmessano | Unless you don't eat any processed foods |
| 19:48.54 | Paladine | no I don't |
| 19:49.02 | drmessano | Well :P then |
| 19:49.22 | drmessano | PA: the only GUI addressed in there is CLI |
| 19:49.24 | drmessano | PA: the only GUI addressed in here is CLI |
| 19:49.26 | Paladine | I eat fresh meat and dairy and thats about it |
| 19:49.40 | drmessano | Ok, ok, you got me |
| 19:49.49 | drmessano | The rest of us do |
| 19:49.55 | pa | drmessano, so where should i ask for the asterisk http server? |
| 19:50.00 | Paladine | but maybe my foods food had mouse droppings in it |
| 19:50.09 | drmessano | read the topic, PA |
| 19:50.11 | Paladine | pa - freepbx? |
| 19:50.27 | drmessano | No |
| 19:50.33 | drmessano | #asterisk-gui |
| 19:51.36 | drmessano | Unless we've all be duped and it's a trixbox |
| 19:51.43 | drmessano | Then you can try #gtfo |
| 19:51.50 | drmessano | Ouch, that was harsh |
| 19:52.35 | Paladine | I actually tried trixbox |
| 19:52.39 | Paladine | but it was broked |
| 19:53.17 | drmessano | At one time, I used Trixbox |
| 19:53.36 | drmessano | Just got sick of it being broken and the spyware crap |
| 19:53.57 | Paladine | it wouldn't boot for me, died somewhere in init and I couldn't be arsed to figure out where so I installed ubuntu+freepbx in half the time |
| 19:54.26 | drmessano | Its amazing how much lighter a box feels if you go that route lol |
| 19:54.59 | Paladine | hehe |
| 19:55.06 | Paladine | Ubuntu uses redbull |
| 19:55.09 | Paladine | so it has wings |
| 19:56.06 | Paladine | of course I still can't use my asterisk server (although it does look very pretty sitting there in the asterisk cli console) |
| 19:56.19 | drmessano | heh |
| 19:56.21 | drmessano | WHy not? |
| 19:56.35 | Paladine | cos I need to reqire my entire house for the phone circuit |
| 19:56.53 | drmessano | Ah |
| 19:56.54 | Paladine | asterisk server is in office in basement, phone point is 2 floors up on the opposite side of the house |
| 19:57.17 | Paladine | require? I meant rewire |
| 19:57.20 | *** join/#asterisk Kumba_ (n=kumba@62-209.187-72.tampabay.res.rr.com) |
| 19:57.23 | drmessano | Just pull a 50 pair cable down there |
| 19:57.43 | Kumba_ | 50-pair? |
| 19:57.55 | Paladine | you ever tried to rewire a network with a 2 year old monster running around the house? |
| 19:58.09 | Kumba | ok, right one... |
| 19:58.16 | drmessano | Cough syrup |
| 19:58.21 | Paladine | "Son give me back that sharp knife..." "I neeeeed it!" |
| 19:58.37 | drmessano | Lots and lots of cough syrup |
| 19:59.04 | Paladine | "Son don't point the drill at daddy like that" |
| 19:59.34 | Paladine | my 2 year old monster is 3'6" too |
| 19:59.42 | drmessano | My father used to put me to work when he did drywall stuff.. Gave me the nail holes to fill in.. |
| 19:59.44 | Paladine | so he is bigger than most 4 year olds |
| 19:59.55 | Kumba | Make him mow the lawn? |
| 20:00.00 | drmessano | I tell you what.. I can fill in a damn nail hole now that requires no sanding lol |
| 20:00.53 | *** join/#asterisk elguero (n=elguero@ns1.nashuacs.com) |
| 20:01.16 | Paladine | "Son, where did you put those crimpers?" "Hiding *giggle*" "No son, seriously, I need the crimpers." "Don't know daddy find it..." |
| 20:01.50 | Kumba | Aint kids cute? |
| 20:02.03 | Paladine | hehehe |
| 20:02.04 | Paladine | yeah |
| 20:02.08 | Paladine | couldn't eat a whole one though |
| 20:02.19 | drmessano | Cough Syrup |
| 20:02.30 | drmessano | "Under 6, above 6, who cares" |
| 20:02.57 | outtolunc | just not after they hide the crimpers |
| 20:02.58 | Paladine | I have to be nice to my son, cos he will be 7' tall before he reaches 16 and knock me out if I don't lol |
| 20:04.46 | CrashSys | Just remember to sucker punch him first in that case :) |
| 20:04.58 | CrashSys | What my dad did to me when I thought I was going to beat him down... |
| 20:05.21 | lirakis | i put together a simple script that automates emailing of voicemail for vanilla asterisk installs |
| 20:05.26 | lirakis | http://dev.etamme.com/wiki/index.php/Vm_mailer |
| 20:05.57 | CrashSys | emailing of voicemail? |
| 20:06.03 | Paladine | is there any way to hook up asterisk to an sms gateway for outbound & inbound sms? |
| 20:06.07 | CrashSys | like, what asterisk already does? |
| 20:06.11 | lirakis | CrashSys: err |
| 20:06.12 | Paladine | I see a lot of companies doing outbound but no inbound |
| 20:06.15 | lirakis | uh yeah |
| 20:06.29 | lirakis | CrashSys: ha ha.. im actually doing some other stuff with call files |
| 20:06.38 | CrashSys | Ohh... |
| 20:06.42 | drmessano | uhh.. |
| 20:06.52 | CrashSys | Can this script send to multiple e-mail boxes from one VM account? |
| 20:06.55 | CrashSys | Cause that'd be handy |
| 20:06.59 | lirakis | CrashSys: this is just a generalized version that determines if the vm's are new or old |
| 20:07.02 | lirakis | CrashSys: yes it can |
| 20:07.08 | Paladine | would be nice to find a voip provider that forwards sms to email for your voip phone number |
| 20:07.25 | lirakis | CrashSys: just seperate the email addy's by commas |
| 20:07.56 | CrashSys | I always knew if I waited long enough I would one day randomnly find someone who would write such a thing... |
| 20:08.20 | lirakis | CrashSys: lol .. i was working on it + call files for part of a on call solution |
| 20:08.31 | lirakis | CrashSys: i figured i would generalize it and make it public |
| 20:09.05 | *** join/#asterisk cesar_CR (n=cesar@200.91.94.122) |
| 20:09.25 | Paladine | oops I better take the beast's juice bottle upstairs or he is gonna beat me up brb |
| 20:09.45 | lirakis | CrashSys: the whole on call package .. actually has a db of contacts, who are oncall during certain hours.. and that script will email a general oncall email address, and attempt to call each tech a specified number of times.. before it escalates to the next tech |
| 20:09.51 | *** join/#asterisk fakhir (n=fakhir@unaffiliated/fakhir) |
| 20:10.17 | lirakis | CrashSys: ill probably sanitize, and make that available too, as it might be a little more use full than.. just this ;) |
| 20:10.42 | CrashSys | sounds like good stuff |
| 20:11.05 | lirakis | unless.. you need to email vm to multiple addresses of course... in which case this is GOLD !! absolute GOLD!! |
| 20:11.05 | lirakis | lol |
| 20:13.29 | CrashSys | Dear god, debian has 3 DVD's?!?!? |
| 20:14.09 | lirakis | haha |
| 20:14.17 | lirakis | if you want all the packages |
| 20:14.37 | lirakis | you can essentially create your own apt mirror with those |
| 20:14.45 | CrashSys | I'll just try the first DVD |
| 20:14.59 | lirakis | heh hehe |
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| 20:15.31 | CrashSys | well, i'll be lagging off here in a little bit... linux torrent's seem to do that... |
| 20:16.01 | drmessano | 3 DVDs? |
| 20:16.04 | cesar_CR | hi guys, anyone that can help me conecting two asterisk via IAX2, I've followed the book but nothing ... |
| 20:16.31 | drmessano | I'll stick with CentOS, thanks |
| 20:16.34 | CrashSys | drmessano: evidently... i'll just try the first 1... I think the other 2 are X and sources.. |
| 20:17.04 | drmessano | I bet there is a freakin package called "Birthday" |
| 20:17.10 | drmessano | and "Birthday-dev" |
| 20:17.40 | Paladine | actually I think birthday does exist |
| 20:18.27 | CrashSys | birthday? |
| 20:18.56 | drmessano | Sure |
| 20:19.09 | drmessano | Just the sort of asshattery you would see in 3 DVDs |
| 20:19.31 | CrashSys | nice |
| 20:19.37 | Paladine | paladine@main:~/Desktop/alsa-plugins-1.0.16$ sudo apt-cache depends birthday |
| 20:19.37 | Paladine | birthday |
| 20:19.37 | Paladine | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:19.37 | Paladine | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:20.34 | drmessano | lol |
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| 20:20.42 | drmessano | Thats funny |
| 20:21.29 | CrashSys | looks like thier torrent is broke for deb 4.0 |
| 20:22.35 | CrashSys | Either that or RR has cut me off |
| 20:22.58 | Paladine | p2p network management? |
| 20:23.12 | outtolunc | cable shaping <G> |
| 20:23.27 | CrashSys | TorrentFlux :) |
| 20:23.46 | CrashSys | since windows like to bomb when I get more then 500 tcp/ip connections going into it |
| 20:24.06 | drmessano | Try a Linksys cable modem with 11 |
| 20:24.33 | CrashSys | Supposively they have been upgrading a lot of their switches in this area becuase a network analyst firm told them 80% of their bandwidth is used by 10% of their customers :D |
| 20:24.38 | SteveTotaro | tylenol PM works wonders |
| 20:24.47 | drmessano | lol |
| 20:24.47 | CrashSys | I guess they were having congestion issues... |
| 20:25.16 | CrashSys | I want OC3-level performance delivered to my door-step for my $80/mo! |
| 20:25.29 | Paladine | move to sweden |
| 20:25.44 | Paladine | or korea |
| 20:25.50 | drmessano | CrashSys: Like the rest of the world has for $40/mo? |
| 20:26.05 | CrashSys | drmessano: exactly :0 |
| 20:26.07 | CrashSys | :) |
| 20:26.36 | drmessano | The CIA wants you to think internet is expensive |
| 20:26.39 | drmessano | It really isn't |
| 20:26.40 | Paladine | in the UK when we get OC3TTH it will have a "Fair Use Policy" of 5GB per month |
| 20:27.32 | SteveTotaro | the old metered premium internet billing |
| 20:28.06 | LiNeTuX | How many phones/users can you support on 100bT? (simutaneous) |
| 20:28.27 | CrashSys | (100*1024)/87 |
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| 20:28.40 | Paladine | yeah I am glad credit defaults expire after 6 years on the register, you don't even wanna know what my phone bills were before flat rate arrived :) |
| 20:28.41 | CrashSys | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:28.44 | LiNeTuX | so about 87kbps/call w/overhead? |
| 20:28.57 | CrashSys | roughly... |
| 20:29.05 | LiNeTuX | thx |
| 20:29.09 | SteveTotaro | go with speex at 8k |
| 20:29.17 | CrashSys | www.asteriskguru.com has a bandwidth calculator under the tools tab |
| 20:29.24 | LiNeTuX | that's what I want ;) |
| 20:29.38 | SteveTotaro | i did that between dc and uganda |
| 20:29.47 | CrashSys | put in your codec, technology, and concurrent call volume, and it'll spit out bandwidth requirements... |
| 20:29.50 | SteveTotaro | two second lag but perfect voice quality |
| 20:30.14 | SteveTotaro | gsm was very choppy |
| 20:30.31 | CrashSys | and how was ULaw? |
| 20:30.47 | SteveTotaro | lol, useless |
| 20:30.58 | CrashSys | :) |
| 20:31.37 | LiNeTuX | CrashSys: that's exactly what I was looking for, I just didn't know it! Thx again. |
| 20:31.57 | SteveTotaro | you can get used to a two second lag when you are saving alot of money |
| 20:32.14 | SteveTotaro | daily calls lasting hours |
| 20:32.26 | ruied | SteveTotaro, 2 second is really much, he can get used to put |
| 20:32.42 | SteveTotaro | you have say "over" |
| 20:33.06 | ruied | SteveTotaro, 2 second is really much, he can get used to but the called person's don't... |
| 20:33.28 | SteveTotaro | yes they do because they had an asterisk box on their side |
| 20:33.34 | SteveTotaro | same company |
| 20:33.39 | ruied | ah, ok |
| 20:34.01 | SteveTotaro | the CEO was happy as hell |
| 20:34.16 | SteveTotaro | or should I say heaven |
| 20:34.34 | LiNeTuX | a pig in shit |
| 20:34.40 | LiNeTuX | as they say at my work |
| 20:34.54 | SteveTotaro | sh*t a brick |
| 20:35.02 | SteveTotaro | after eating at five guys |
| 20:35.09 | LiNeTuX | that's the truth |
| 20:36.01 | SteveTotaro | do any phones support speex hacked or native ? |
| 20:36.25 | SteveTotaro | iax and speex |
| 20:36.56 | drmessano | I've only seen Speex on softphones |
| 20:37.22 | SteveTotaro | speex, openvpn, and IAX2, they would be good sellers in 3rd world areas especially where VoIP is illegal |
| 20:38.00 | drmessano | Leave the SPeex for the interasterisk part and you're set |
| 20:38.38 | SteveTotaro | too bad none of the phones out there run linux like the old wrt54g s |
| 20:39.18 | drmessano | Hows the transcoding from G711 to Speex? |
| 20:39.48 | SteveTotaro | cpu intensive i guess |
| 20:40.04 | SteveTotaro | sounds good though |
| 20:40.11 | drmessano | Thats what matters |
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| 20:41.50 | SteveTotaro | did you know that the asterisk in fc8 repo builds chan_mobile by default |
| 20:41.59 | SteveTotaro | i guess it builds everything, no speex though |
| 20:42.16 | drmessano | Interesting |
| 20:42.17 | SteveTotaro | i just did a yum install asterisk* |
| 20:42.39 | SteveTotaro | installed freetds and all kinds of kewl stuff |
| 20:45.44 | SteveTotaro | ~pb |
| 20:45.45 | jbot | [~pb] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste |
| 20:45.56 | SteveTotaro | who was asking about mISDN yesterday? |
| 20:46.10 | drmessano | AsterWinMan? |
| 20:47.14 | SteveTotaro | ah yeah, how could i forget that win guy |
| 20:47.20 | SteveTotaro | check this out |
| 20:47.24 | SteveTotaro | http://pastebin.ca/915486 |
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| 20:48.28 | drmessano | nice.. done |
| 20:49.05 | SteveTotaro | i hope the win guy comes back |
| 20:49.28 | SteveTotaro | this looks like a winner FC8 bare and yum install asterisk* |
| 20:50.20 | drmessano | The sad thing is, more hardcore Windows admins think any talk about linux is anti-windows rhetoric |
| 20:50.27 | drmessano | They limit themselves in the tools they use |
| 20:50.39 | drmessano | I am 80% a windows admin, but Linux rocks my socks |
| 20:50.43 | SteveTotaro | unixodbc is a very nice thing to throw in this package |
| 20:51.18 | SteveTotaro | i learned linux when i started using asterisk |
| 20:51.33 | SteveTotaro | pre1.0, i guess six or so years ago |
| 20:51.42 | drmessano | The iksemel is a good touch too |
| 20:52.10 | SteveTotaro | dont feel like googling it, brief summary please? |
| 20:52.33 | drmessano | Dependency for the XMPP/Jabber stuff.. I guess the library that does all the work |
| 20:52.38 | SteveTotaro | lets see if i can yum install wanpipe |
| 20:52.42 | SteveTotaro | ;) |
| 20:55.30 | SteveTotaro | the yum install is smart enough to put the new confs with .new at the end |
| 20:55.55 | SteveTotaro | actually .rpmnew |
| 20:57.43 | ManxPower | drmessano: windows admin? I always knew there was something "off" about you. *grin* |
| 20:58.17 | drmessano | heh |
| 20:58.30 | drmessano | Well, i've spent 11 years doing it so far |
| 20:58.36 | drmessano | It pays the bills |
| 20:59.13 | drmessano | Apparently I am pretty good at it, because I find people in better paying jobs that know less lol |
| 20:59.49 | drmessano | I guess I need to quit being a cheapass and come off the $$$ to get that insane M$ certs |
| 20:59.53 | drmessano | *yuck* |
| 21:00.14 | drmessano | s/that/those/ |
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| 21:04.40 | SteveTotaro | just get the easiest win cert and then you are an MCP |
| 21:05.40 | Paladine | people still do MS certs? I thought there was a patch for that? |
| 21:07.00 | drmessano | lol |
| 21:07.02 | drmessano | There needs to be |
| 21:07.58 | Paladine | actually a friend of mine recently started his XP cert (god knows why) and no-one has seen or heard from him since |
| 21:08.02 | Paladine | which is a bit worrying |
| 21:08.46 | Paladine | but he is scottish, so we are not that bothered |
| 21:09.47 | gr0mit | so, anyone using astmanproxy? |
| 21:10.02 | drmessano | lol |
| 21:10.04 | Paladine | dude I keep parsing that as assmanproxy |
| 21:10.14 | Paladine | which is a little scarey |
| 21:10.32 | Paladine | hehehe |
| 21:10.37 | Paladine | with tape on the arm? |
| 21:10.39 | drmessano | It's pretty stupid that you would need to be certified in WINDOWS |
| 21:10.40 | gr0mit | yup |
| 21:10.46 | drmessano | Thats like having a bicycle license |
| 21:10.54 | gr0mit | held together with Araldite |
| 21:11.02 | Paladine | drmessano, actually it stands perfectly to reason that you would need to be certified to use windows ;) |
| 21:11.23 | Paladine | certified as mentally ill that is |
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| 21:11.51 | Paladine | gr0mit, so where in BrownLand are you then? |
| 21:12.07 | gr0mit | Basingstoke |
| 21:12.15 | Paladine | ooo posh |
| 21:12.51 | gr0mit | nah. and you? |
| 21:12.56 | LiNeTuX | But if you don't have a Windows cert, how on earth is an employer to know you know what you're talking about? |
| 21:12.59 | Paladine | Lancaster |
| 21:13.13 | Paladine | but well travelled |
| 21:13.15 | gr0mit | aaaah ok. almost in Scotland ;-) |
| 21:13.21 | Paladine | hense knowing where basingstoke is :) |
| 21:13.51 | gr0mit | but I am none the wiser about astmanproxy |
| 21:14.10 | drmessano | LiNeTuX: True.. But how is an employer supposed to know you're not just a dumbass that tests well? |
| 21:14.49 | LiNeTuX | oh wait, I forgot to <sarcasm> </sarcasm> my last comment. Heh. |
| 21:14.57 | drmessano | lol |
| 21:15.05 | gr0mit | using astmanproxy to filyter out everyone elses traffic on a colo asterisk box |
| 21:15.19 | LiNeTuX | drmessano: it would NEVER have to do with references, would it? Nah, that's crazy talk. |
| 21:15.40 | drmessano | References? Only if it's Microsoft employees |
| 21:15.46 | drmessano | Thats as good as a cert |
| 21:15.59 | Paladine | LiNeTuX, in the UK it is illegal to give a bad reference |
| 21:16.04 | LiNeTuX | Then you get back to that certified/certificate thing. Heh. |
| 21:16.10 | gr0mit | u using Asterisk then Paladine? |
| 21:16.15 | drmessano | certifiable |
| 21:16.32 | Paladine | gr0mit, not strictly using it in the "using" sense of the word no |
| 21:16.36 | Paladine | I have it installed though |
| 21:16.44 | gr0mit | aah ok |
| 21:16.49 | LiNeTuX | Paladine: there's a lot of things about EU that makes the US look bad. Being fically (sp?) responsible for companies you start it one. |
| 21:16.53 | Paladine | need to rewqire my house first |
| 21:17.05 | gr0mit | why? |
| 21:17.21 | Paladine | cos my phone point is about 200 feet of cable run from my asterisk server |
| 21:17.50 | gr0mit | hmmmm |
| 21:18.00 | gr0mit | cant you move one closer to the other?! |
| 21:18.22 | Paladine | not really, well not practically |
| 21:18.30 | Paladine | I need to run cable through walls to avoid the problem |
| 21:18.35 | Paladine | which means getting the drill out |
| 21:18.37 | gr0mit | 200 feet? thats, what, 65 metres! |
| 21:18.49 | gr0mit | big houses up north! |
| 21:19.13 | Paladine | not a big house, just 2 floors between the two and they are on opposite sides of the house |
| 21:19.20 | Paladine | server is back of house phone point is front |
| 21:19.40 | gr0mit | aah ok |
| 21:19.43 | drmessano | Big drill |
| 21:19.59 | Paladine | yeah I need to get the drill out, but as I said I have a 2yr old running around most of the time |
| 21:20.03 | drmessano | Find an outside wall, drill til it's shiny through the hole |
| 21:20.21 | drmessano | run a nice piece of 50 pair to the box |
| 21:20.22 | gr0mit | 2 yr olds love playing with electric power drills |
| 21:20.29 | Paladine | exactly my point |
| 21:20.48 | Paladine | my two year old's favourite cartoons are Bob the Builder and Handy Manny |
| 21:20.59 | gr0mit | oh dear. |
| 21:21.03 | Paladine | indeed |
| 21:21.05 | LiNeTuX | We can fix it. |
| 21:21.06 | gr0mit | you are in deep trouble then |
| 21:21.11 | Paladine | hehehehe |
| 21:21.32 | gr0mit | but if you use voip, why do you need to get near a phone line anyway? |
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| 21:21.53 | Paladine | to run the pots connection into my card |
| 21:21.58 | mrdigital | can iphone be used on asterisk? |
| 21:22.22 | gr0mit | analogue is always a disapointment |
| 21:22.23 | Paladine | iphone kinda defeats the point of asterisk I think |
| 21:22.29 | mrdigital | defeats? |
| 21:22.31 | Paladine | asterisk is an economical solution |
| 21:22.36 | LiNeTuX | heh |
| 21:22.57 | [TK]D-Fender | mrdigital, Sure your typical Asterisk server doesn't put out enough EM to disrupts an iPhone sitting on top of it |
| 21:23.18 | [TK]D-Fender | mrdigital, So go right ahead and sit on your * server and use your iPhone to your hearts content@! |
| 21:23.22 | Paladine | oh crap I have to go to the shop, they close at 10 up north |
| 21:23.52 | Paladine | oh I probably have to do that too |
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| 21:24.00 | Paladine | but I can pretend I didn't notice if I avoid the kithcen |
| 21:24.02 | gr0mit | wifey is watching the england-france match |
| 21:24.09 | mrdigital | isnt there a native iphone sip client app |
| 21:24.25 | Paladine | mrdigital, think about that for a minute |
| 21:24.28 | drmessano | yes, but it's only good in $200,000 vans |
| 21:24.38 | drmessano | Doesn't work outside their EMP field |
| 21:24.54 | Paladine | if you were Apple and getting 10% of all revenues from the telcos for iPhone use, would you include a sip client? |
| 21:25.24 | gr0mit | hehe! |
| 21:25.30 | gr0mit | bbl. |
| 21:25.38 | Paladine | laster gr0mit, nice to meet you |
| 21:25.38 | drmessano | <LOTZA SARCASM> yes </LOTZALESS SARCASM> |
| 21:26.03 | drmessano | iphone is a waste of time |
| 21:26.08 | defsdoor | Paladine: I thought they just got % of line rental |
| 21:26.16 | Paladine | iphone is waste of a lot of things |
| 21:26.26 | Paladine | defsdoor, nope 10% of all revenues |
| 21:26.32 | Paladine | at least in the UK thats what they get |
| 21:26.51 | drmessano | It's just another excuse for Mac fanboys with tiny penises to keep living in their moms basement |
| 21:26.53 | defsdoor | o2 are idiots then for agreeing to that |
| 21:26.57 | Paladine | although the media could be lying I guess, it wouldn't be unheard of |
| 21:27.30 | Paladine | drmessano, only mac users would invent an interface that requires them to stroke their hardware |
| 21:27.46 | drmessano | Yeah |
| 21:27.52 | defsdoor | the iphone/ipod touch UI is lush |
| 21:27.53 | Paladine | oh I forget, they never invented it, they stole it |
| 21:27.57 | drmessano | Making up for the lack of Right-Click |
| 21:28.29 | defsdoor | I don't believe it should be a phone though |
| 21:28.31 | Paladine | defsdoor, i can think of many other things I would rather stroke, I would say what but this is a family channel |
| 21:28.40 | defsdoor | I still favour seperate hardware and bluetooth |
| 21:28.40 | Paladine | brb have to go to shop |
| 21:29.55 | mrdigital | http://touchmods.wordpress.com/ |
| 21:30.05 | defsdoor | I got an eee pc and nokia n810 at work this week |
| 21:32.06 | LiNeTuX | defsdoor: what do you think about the eee? |
| 21:32.14 | defsdoor | LiNeTuX: It's lovely |
| 21:32.24 | defsdoor | really nice |
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| 21:32.54 | defsdoor | shame the screen isn't as big as it could be - but still everso nice |
| 21:33.15 | drmessano | mrdigital, do you speak french |
| 21:33.17 | defsdoor | everyone in the office fell in love with it |
| 21:33.34 | LiNeTuX | defsdoor: which model did you get? |
| 21:33.38 | defsdoor | and they work out of the box with huawei usb UMTS modems |
| 21:34.05 | defsdoor | LiNeTuX: not sure - our stores guy ordered it - I don't think its the one with more RAM |
| 21:34.26 | LiNeTuX | defsdoor: did you get hot pink? lol |
| 21:34.33 | defsdoor | white |
| 21:34.56 | defsdoor | I've just got to get openvpn on it and we have a great out of hours support device |
| 21:35.37 | LiNeTuX | defsdoor: does it support win terminal services? |
| 21:35.57 | defsdoor | but there's massive scope for using them as data collection, on site stuff in general - I'd love to take time out to create some web base stuff to demo it and get some business |
| 21:36.32 | defsdoor | LiNeTuX: it's a proper pc - whatever you want it can do it there's software for it |
| 21:37.00 | LiNeTuX | I haven't seen a whole lot on the distro it runs (for software updates, etc) |
| 21:37.16 | defsdoor | out of the box is a asus cut of xandros |
| 21:37.27 | defsdoor | but lots of people blank it and stick ubuntu on |
| 21:37.35 | Paladine | hey defs, you in the UK then? |
| 21:37.41 | defsdoor | aye |
| 21:37.52 | defsdoor | I work for a UK mobile SP |
| 21:37.57 | Paladine | ok I am currently looking for some phones to replace our DECT phones |
| 21:38.08 | defsdoor | siemens |
| 21:38.09 | Paladine | need 3, but not too spensive |
| 21:38.20 | Paladine | and they need to be VOIP phones |
| 21:38.26 | Paladine | standalone |
| 21:38.27 | drmessano | ha |
| 21:38.38 | ManxPower | Would you like a unicorn too? |
| 21:38.43 | Paladine | they don't have to have any pots functionality |
| 21:38.44 | drmessano | No shit lol |
| 21:38.46 | defsdoor | Paladine: I've put in 10 siemens sip/dects |
| 21:38.55 | defsdoor | seem to work ok |
| 21:38.58 | drmessano | VoIP + DECT + Not expensive |
| 21:39.03 | drmessano | good luck |
| 21:39.20 | Paladine | drmessano, as I said they don't need any pots functionality |
| 21:39.25 | Paladine | so they don't need to be dect |
| 21:39.26 | drmessano | Runs off solar powered pixie dust |
| 21:39.34 | Paladine | just sip |
| 21:39.34 | defsdoor | http://www.voipon.co.uk/siemens-c460ip-dect-sip-phone-p-349.html |
| 21:39.48 | Paladine | but they need to be wireless and they need to be standalone (only pc's are in my office) |
| 21:40.17 | Paladine | that siemens is a dual phone |
| 21:40.22 | Paladine | pots and sip |
| 21:40.29 | defsdoor | don't plug it in |
| 21:40.35 | defsdoor | then it's just sip |
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| 21:40.46 | drmessano | Paladine: Do you REALLY think it's the POTS that makes it expensive? |
| 21:40.48 | drmessano | Come on now |
| 21:40.55 | Paladine | yeah but at 80 quid each, I am paying for the fact that it is pots |
| 21:40.59 | defsdoor | 75 quid isn't expensive |
| 21:41.00 | drmessano | Uh no |
| 21:41.26 | Paladine | I have seen loads of sip only for under 40 quid |
| 21:41.30 | drmessano | POTS is 6USD worth of parts.. SIP is the other 150 |
| 21:41.31 | Paladine | I just don't know what is any good |
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| 21:41.52 | defsdoor | Paladine: I've not heard a peep out of the company that had 10 of those |
| 21:42.42 | Paladine | http://www.ebuyer.com/product/126337 |
| 21:42.47 | drmessano | 40 QUID is what $60 USD |
| 21:42.52 | Paladine | what about something like that but not tied into msn messenger? |
| 21:42.58 | drmessano | I have never seen a $60 SIP Wireless |
| 21:42.59 | Paladine | drmess, no more like 80 |
| 21:43.03 | Paladine | the USD is crap atm |
| 21:43.03 | drmessano | Even still |
| 21:43.16 | drmessano | I have never seen a SIP wireless for under $100 |
| 21:43.34 | defsdoor | wtf is windows live call ? |
| 21:43.38 | Paladine | drmessano, I just posted a link to one |
| 21:43.41 | drmessano | Its for MSN Messenger |
| 21:43.43 | drmessano | Not SIP |
| 21:43.45 | Paladine | which is also a dual phone |
| 21:44.02 | drmessano | Thats NOT SIP |
| 21:44.17 | drmessano | I can get MSN and Skype wireless phones at wal mart for $50 USD |
| 21:44.22 | drmessano | Still doesnt make them SIP |
| 21:44.30 | defsdoor | or good |
| 21:44.42 | nvrpunk | they need to hack those cheapies |
| 21:44.45 | nvrpunk | with linux |
| 21:44.49 | nvrpunk | and make em sip |
| 21:44.53 | drmessano | [16:37] <ManxPower> Would you like a unicorn too? <---- I refer back to this point |
| 21:45.41 | drmessano | http://www.telephonydepot.com/Wireless_VoIP_s/78.htm |
| 21:46.10 | drmessano | THAT is what you are looking at, market-wise |
| 21:46.22 | drmessano | Unless you get a cheap ATA and some 5.8GHZ phones |
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| 21:55.38 | Paladine | a cheap ATA? |
| 21:55.52 | Paladine | sorry was miles away then |
| 21:57.16 | Paladine | am all about cheap, not gonna fork out 240 quid on phone my son will trash in 2 months |
| 21:57.27 | Paladine | phones |
| 21:58.50 | mrdigital | heyy i got a working asterisk Extenstion on my iphone!! |
| 21:59.19 | Paladine | and here I thought the iPhone was another type of extension |
| 21:59.26 | Paladine | I am not worthy |
| 21:59.27 | mrdigital | huh pa |
| 21:59.28 | mrdigital | Paladine? |
| 22:02.50 | *** join/#asterisk mmurdock (n=nope@c-24-10-190-87.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 22:15.05 | Paladine | drmessano, how about these? http://www.cordless-phones.uk.com/cordless-phones/multihandset-cordless-phones/siemens-gigaset-c460ip-trio#product-reviews |
| 22:15.27 | Paladine | thats a bit more reasonably priced |
| 22:15.40 | Paladine | 60 quid a pop |
| 22:16.29 | drmessano | Thats about right, I guess |
| 22:16.34 | drmessano | Thats one extension though |
| 22:16.42 | drmessano | One Asterisk extension |
| 22:16.50 | Paladine | yeah |
| 22:17.02 | ManxPower | How does that differ from One Nortel Extension? |
| 22:18.23 | *** join/#asterisk kamitodo (n=user@70.18.247.30) |
| 22:18.43 | Paladine | were those other ones multiple extensions? |
| 22:20.21 | ManxPower | And your iPhone is not an extension, it is a device. An extension (in the Asterisk universe) is what translates dialed digits into a destination device to send the call to. |
| 22:21.28 | ManxPower | And that is why a single device that can be called via an unlimited number of extensions |
| 22:21.42 | Paladine | it would actually be kinda nice to have 3 individual wifi voip phones that can each have their own extension but don't need to be plugged into a PC |
| 22:22.12 | Paladine | erm I didn't need to qualify wifi twice I guess hehe |
| 22:22.37 | ManxPower | There is no reason a vendor could not do that. |
| 22:22.48 | Paladine | I have a nice phat omnidirectional internal antenna |
| 22:23.08 | mmurdock | Paladine: Is there a good wifi phone out there? I think dect would be the way to go. |
| 22:23.33 | Paladine | yeah but dect limits me to one extension as drmessano pointed out |
| 22:23.56 | Paladine | it woudl be very nice for me to have my own extension so when the baern is asleep upstairs the phone in the bedroom doesn't wake him for example |
| 22:24.15 | mmurdock | Have you looked at snom's m3? |
| 22:24.19 | ManxPower | mmurdock: The current state of WiFi phone products dictates that if you want a good wireless phone, you go with a cordless phone (with either a built in ATA like that Gigaset or a cordless phone with an external ATA) |
| 22:24.22 | Paladine | got a link? |
| 22:24.47 | mmurdock | Paladine:http://www.snom.com/en/snom_m3.html |
| 22:24.57 | mmurdock | Paladine: A bit expensive though. |
| 22:26.45 | Paladine | rule #1: If they don't provide a price, you can't aford it |
| 22:26.56 | kamitodo | I'm setting a pbx at home. What is the recommended ATA device nowadays? I see that sipura 3000 is replaced by SPA 3102. Are they good? Or should I get IP phone(s)? |
| 22:27.23 | mmurdock | Paladine: There you go: http://www.telephonydepot.com/product_p/105-059-m3basic.htm |
| 22:27.27 | *** join/#asterisk rhombus (n=sfbosch@dsl-vlan435-66-18-218-36.nucleus.com) |
| 22:27.37 | ManxPower | kamitodo: that all depends on your needs. |
| 22:27.56 | mmurdock | kamitodo: If you have cat5 everywhere then sip phones are more fun :) |
| 22:28.52 | kamitodo | no cat5 |
| 22:29.25 | kamitodo | my needs are basic: mostly to learn this stuff |
| 22:30.14 | kamitodo | how about wifi sip phones? any good ones upto $100? |
| 22:33.15 | mmurdock | kamitodo: I think the general rule is they all suck. |
| 22:34.19 | kamitodo | mmurdock: "they all"? are you referring to the wifi sip phones? |
| 22:35.16 | mmurdock | kamitodo: Correct. |
| 22:35.32 | mmurdock | kamitodo: There are many good sip phones. |
| 22:36.51 | kamitodo | mmurdock: so wifi sip phones have poor sound or what? |
| 22:37.26 | drmessano | [17:16] <ManxPower> How does that differ from One Nortel Extension? <--- 5 stand alone phones is 5 addressable extensions, one DECT phone and 5 handsets is ONE |
| 22:37.43 | drmessano | But I am sure you knew that are were just being a smartass :) |
| 22:38.39 | drmessano | I still say a cheap ATA and $29 cordless are the way to go |
| 22:39.03 | mmurdock | kamitodo: Can't keep a good connection, bad interface, hard to use. |
| 22:39.21 | hmmhesays | I use one daily |
| 22:39.25 | Paladine | hmmmm am I brain dead? I must be tired |
| 22:39.29 | hmmhesays | i like my cordless with an ata |
| 22:39.45 | hmmhesays | now wifi phones... just suck |
| 22:39.47 | Paladine | can't I just put my existing dect phone straight into my x100p sp? |
| 22:39.59 | Paladine | se |
| 22:40.20 | Paladine | and not have to buy ip phones? |
| 22:40.52 | mmurdock | Paladine: Isn't the x100p a fxo device? |
| 22:41.03 | Paladine | yeah |
| 22:41.13 | kamitodo | mmurdock: OK, so then SIP or regular + ATA. What shall I pick? Any SIP phone recommendations? Any ATA recommendations? |
| 22:41.21 | *** join/#asterisk andrewn (n=andrew@76-191-151-229.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) |
| 22:41.33 | Paladine | has two ports, one for line and one for "phone" |
| 22:41.40 | mmurdock | Paladine: Then no, you plug the line from your telco into that. You need a fxs device so you can plug your phone into that. |
| 22:42.04 | Paladine | so what is the "Phone" port for in the card? |
| 22:42.31 | mmurdock | Paladine: Probably phone pass through just like a standard modem. |
| 22:42.44 | drmessano | Paladine |
| 22:42.47 | drmessano | Thats a passthru |
| 22:42.54 | drmessano | X100P is not an FXS |
| 22:43.30 | mmurdock | kamitodo: So I'm a bit partial, I like snom. As for a ata get the spa2102 |
| 22:43.38 | Paladine | well we don't use voip for outgoing anyway, we have free outgoing calls for the next 12 months |
| 22:43.43 | drmessano | If you're gonna run a POTS line into an X100P and use a bunch of phones on one lines, what again are you using Asterisk for? LOL |
| 22:44.16 | hmmhesays | does anyone use free world dialup anymore? |
| 22:44.22 | drmessano | I do |
| 22:44.23 | Paladine | because I need to record the calls and keep logs and start to play with voip for when our current phone deal ends |
| 22:44.26 | drmessano | Well |
| 22:44.32 | drmessano | I have a peer to it.. dont "use" ot |
| 22:46.31 | Paladine | drmessano, we have a harassment problem at the moment and need to record/log calls for trading standards and the police |
| 22:46.44 | Paladine | which is why I got the x100p and installed asterisk |
| 22:47.00 | drmessano | ok |
| 22:47.42 | Paladine | it was much cheaper to buy the x100p than buy recording hardware to fix to the phone |
| 22:47.48 | mmurdock | Paladine: You need something like this http://www.telephonydepot.com/product_p/105-050-104-aa.htm I have no affiliation with telephonydepot. |
| 22:48.27 | drmessano | Paladine: You would have been better off with an SPA-3102 |
| 22:48.37 | sbingner | I just got a SPA-3102 --- works great |
| 22:48.37 | Paladine | mmurdock, thats aneitrely too expensive and I already have a genuine x100p special edition :p |
| 22:48.38 | drmessano | Which is what I tried to recommend a while back |
| 22:48.58 | drmessano | Paladine: Great, you got an X100P.. Now you need an FXS device or SIP phones |
| 22:49.05 | drmessano | Which an SPA-3102 would have handled both |
| 22:49.22 | mmurdock | Just don't buy a pap2 |
| 22:49.27 | drmessano | Why? |
| 22:49.34 | Paladine | drmessano, well no I don't need them, I got the x100p specifically to allow us to log/record incoming calls |
| 22:49.42 | mmurdock | You will be talking and then you will hear dtmf tones. It's great. |
| 22:49.47 | mmurdock | Randomly. |
| 22:50.01 | drmessano | Paladine: How are you going to record calls without them going thru asterisk? |
| 22:50.08 | drmessano | mmurdock: Not true |
| 22:50.28 | drmessano | maybe you had a bad box |
| 22:50.33 | Paladine | drmessano, I have asterisk setup to use the fxo card |
| 22:50.42 | drmessano | And? |
| 22:50.45 | Paladine | it gets the call from pots and deal with it |
| 22:50.47 | mmurdock | drmessano: Mine does. Actually it's a pap2t |
| 22:51.07 | drmessano | mmurdock: Never heard that problem.. I personally have 41 of them |
| 22:51.20 | Paladine | if we don't recognise the number from our callerID we don't answer and let asterisk answer it |
| 22:51.21 | drmessano | Lots of others use them too |
| 22:51.31 | drmessano | Paladine: Isnt that an answering machine? |
| 22:51.36 | rhombus | Does the a extension only work during a voicemail prompt? |
| 22:51.42 | Paladine | or that was the plan anyway, I haven't actually set it up yet |
| 22:51.55 | drmessano | Why didnt you just buy an answering machine? lol |
| 22:52.03 | Paladine | drmessano, no an answering machine is no good for legal purposes |
| 22:52.12 | Paladine | we need logs and full recordings of the calls |
| 22:52.32 | drmessano | But you're not gonna record anything other than left voicemails |
| 22:52.36 | drmessano | You realize that, right? |
| 22:52.56 | Paladine | the don't leave voicemails, we have voicemail already |
| 22:53.19 | drmessano | Im confused |
| 22:53.33 | drmessano | Unless Asterisk is handling the call, no recording |
| 22:53.38 | Paladine | I can answer the cals using my comp[uter and asterisk with my usb device |
| 22:53.52 | mmurdock | drmessano: I'm glad they have worked for you! I put in a spa2102 and all my problems went away. I have two other pap2t's at work and they also give random dtmf tones. It's weird. It may be that they are hooked up to cordless phone. who know... |
| 22:54.04 | ManxPower | Paladine: Asterisk is not an answering machine, it is a PBX. If you want Asterisk to record the call then the call has to be handled by Asterisk. |
| 22:54.17 | Paladine | manx yes thats what I just said |
| 22:54.27 | drmessano | So are going to be using a softphone? |
| 22:54.31 | drmessano | So YOU are going to be using a softphone? |
| 22:54.33 | Paladine | the call comes in, if we know it to not be the asshats harassing us we answer with regular phone |
| 22:54.43 | Paladine | if not we answer via asterisk using sip forwarding |
| 22:54.57 | Paladine | I will be using the softphone for just those calls yes |
| 22:55.01 | drmessano | Ok |
| 22:55.01 | mmurdock | If I get a telemarketer I transfer them to the monkeys... :) |
| 22:55.04 | Paladine | so i can record them |
| 22:55.55 | mmurdock | The next step is to record my 4 year talking about transformers. Then they can listen to that. :) |
| 22:56.13 | Paladine | sorry if I wasn't being clear been up the better part of 30 hours trying to fix alsa-plugins |
| 22:56.48 | drmessano | I think I would have gone to Radio Shack and gotten a phone tap box and a $19 digital recorder |
| 22:57.13 | Paladine | the cheapest hardware phone recorder available here is like 8x more expensive than the x100p was |
| 22:57.22 | rhombus | ManxPower: What would this context do? http://pastebin.ca/915620 |
| 22:57.44 | Paladine | and it just records the call, it doesn't keep a log |
| 22:57.58 | Paladine | we need to log the frequency of the calls too |
| 22:58.14 | ManxPower | rhombus: what does it look like it does. |
| 22:58.22 | Paladine | the telco doesn't log incoming calls |
| 22:58.29 | Paladine | only outgoing |
| 22:58.33 | Paladine | so we can't get the logs off them |
| 22:58.39 | drmessano | So the computer was free? |
| 22:58.50 | Paladine | I have loads of computers that part wasn't an issue |
| 22:58.51 | drmessano | How fast is it? |
| 22:59.05 | rhombus | ManxPower: Well, I know what I want it to do, and what I expect it to do, but it ain't doing it. I would expect this to send me to the VoiceMailMain(300) if I hit * |
| 22:59.07 | Paladine | the server is dual athlon MP 2800 barton cores |
| 22:59.16 | Paladine | with 2GB ECC Registered server ram |
| 22:59.17 | rhombus | ManxPower: what it does instead is hang up. |
| 22:59.17 | drmessano | lol |
| 22:59.26 | Paladine | just a spare box I had lying around |
| 22:59.42 | ManxPower | rhombus: for one thing remove the (300) from VoicemailMain extension |
| 22:59.43 | drmessano | Thats a lot of horsepower to throw a shitty X100P in to keep from buying a $160 recorder |
| 22:59.54 | drmessano | But whatever |
| 22:59.55 | Paladine | its not just my asterisk server |
| 22:59.57 | ManxPower | what DOES it do when you hit *? |
| 23:00.09 | Paladine | its my media center, web server and mail server as well |
| 23:00.11 | rhombus | ManxPower: It hangs up |
| 23:00.25 | ManxPower | rhombus: and the CLI message you get is? |
| 23:00.26 | rhombus | ManxPower: and I want to access 300, so why would I take it out? |
| 23:00.32 | mmurdock | rhombus: What context is your phone in? |
| 23:00.36 | ManxPower | rhombus: just try it. |
| 23:00.41 | rhombus | ManxPower: Hang on, I'll get it |
| 23:00.41 | drmessano | Asterisk loves to be run on multitasked machines |
| 23:00.46 | ManxPower | mmurdock: did you look at his pastebin? |
| 23:01.00 | Paladine | its only a single line and from what I read it should be fine |
| 23:01.09 | Paladine | if it was multiple lines it might be problematic |
| 23:01.48 | mmurdock | ManxPower: yes |
| 23:02.50 | Paladine | but once our current telco deal ends I will be wanting to switch to a full voip setup so I figured it would give me a chance to get familiar with asterisk as well ready for that |
| 23:03.39 | Paladine | currently we get free outbound calls for 12 months to any national number (not special numbers like toll free etc) |
| 23:03.45 | mmurdock | rhombus: How is your phone connected to asterisk? |
| 23:03.51 | Paladine | so no point paying for a voip out service |
| 23:04.12 | rhombus | mmurdock: this is for remote voicemail retrieval |
| 23:04.24 | drmessano | Toll Free calls cost you? |
| 23:04.37 | rhombus | ManxPower, mmurdock: a similar rule works fine during open hours. |
| 23:04.55 | Paladine | well I didn't mean toll free, I meant 0845 etc but if you not in the UK you won't know what they are |
| 23:05.52 | kamitodo | mmurdock: Does spa2102 need unlocking or anything like that? I found a used one for ~ $20. |
| 23:06.00 | drmessano | An 0845 number is the same thing as regional tollfree |
| 23:06.14 | Paladine | well not toll free but local rates |
| 23:06.17 | rhombus | ManxPower: here is what shows in CLI when I hit *: http://pastebin.ca/915636 |
| 23:06.43 | drmessano | yeah |
| 23:06.48 | *** join/#asterisk mosty (n=mostyn@60-241-198-194.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 23:06.49 | Paladine | but they are not covered on our plan |
| 23:07.05 | *** join/#asterisk naxeji (n=nax@M1058P021.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 23:07.10 | Paladine | so we would still pay local rates on those instead of free |
| 23:08.02 | mmurdock | kamitodo: Mine didn't but if it's tied to a specific provider it might. |
| 23:08.18 | Paladine | I would really like a digium but I have to wait til I graduate before I can justify the cost |
| 23:08.19 | drmessano | World will be a better place when we're all using SIP/IAX |
| 23:08.55 | Mavvie | drmessano: for VoIP yes. |
| 23:09.55 | ManxPower | rhombus: you are pressing * before Voicemail is run, and so asterisk is trying to go to the * extension |
| 23:10.15 | ManxPower | it is VOICEMAIL and VOICEMAILMAIN that send the call to 'a' when you press '*' |
| 23:10.18 | drmessano | <Mavvie> drmessano: for VoIP yes. <--- ass opposed to? |
| 23:10.21 | drmessano | <Mavvie> drmessano: for VoIP yes. <--- as opposed to? |
| 23:10.43 | rhombus | ManxPower: Right -- so how do I handle * when not in VoiceMail()? Is that even possible? |
| 23:11.03 | mmurdock | rhombus: Can't you change the a to a *? |
| 23:11.14 | rhombus | mmurdock: is that valid? |
| 23:11.19 | Mavvie | drmessano: physical forms of interaction, the way we bring food to our mouth, the approach to mathematical problems etc. Any but VoIP that is. |
| 23:11.23 | mmurdock | rhombus: Not sure.. try it |
| 23:11.37 | drmessano | uh ok |
| 23:11.53 | rhombus | ManxPower: So the a standard extension only works in VoiceMail(), then |
| 23:12.09 | drmessano | I don't think you can eat an IAX |
| 23:12.44 | drmessano | I tried |
| 23:12.44 | drmessano | Too salty |
| 23:12.44 | rhombus | ManxPower: what's puzzling to me is that it would look for an i extension in the calling context, rather than the context in which the key was pressed |
| 23:12.45 | ManxPower | rhombus: that is correct. |
| 23:13.07 | rhombus | ManxPower: how do i handle * when I'm not in VoiceMail(), then? |
| 23:13.22 | ManxPower | rhombus: exten => *,1,Goto(a,1) |
| 23:13.57 | ManxPower | actually, exten => *,1,Goto(voom-closed,a,1) or whatever context the exten a is in |
| 23:14.05 | rhombus | ManxPower: okay... good. I was concerned that * might have special meaning in an extension. |
| 23:14.17 | rhombus | ManxPower: thanks. I'll try it out. |
| 23:14.18 | mmurdock | rhombus: It's not a wildcard. |
| 23:15.13 | ManxPower | rhombus: * and # are just digits to Asterisk. That's the reason ; is the comment character in Asterisk's config files instead of # |
| 23:15.47 | rhombus | ManxPower: Sweet enlightenment. Thank you. |
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| 23:18.00 | rhombus | ManxPower, mmurdock: Success. It works as advertised. Thanks again. |
| 23:18.36 | ManxPower | rhombus: I don't know why it's looking for * in a different context than we would expect. UNLESS of course, you get to the voicemail context via a Gosub() |
| 23:19.04 | rhombus | ManxPower: no, it's a simple include -- but perhaps that's handled in a similar way. |
| 23:19.15 | ManxPower | rhombus: yes, that would do it. |
| 23:19.27 | ManxPower | Well include => would do it |
| 23:19.27 | drmessano | SteveTotaro: You there? |
| 23:19.35 | rhombus | ManxPower: ah. |
| 23:20.37 | ManxPower | rhombus: this is an example of where knowing more about your dialplan would have helped us diagnose the issue, but you could not have known that at the time |
| 23:21.21 | rhombus | ManxPower: I recognize that having the whole dialplan is always better, but it's a production server and I have to be careful about privacy. |
| 23:21.23 | rhombus | ManxPower: but I take your point. |
| 23:22.01 | rhombus | ManxPower: Anyway, we got there okay, thanks to your patience. |
| 23:22.25 | ManxPower | rhombus: Privacy isn't really what I was thinking of. It's just that it's DIFFICULT to understand someone else's dialplan, no matter how much of extensions.conf you see. |
| 23:23.06 | rhombus | ManxPower: well, dialplans don't have metafields for intent :P |
| 23:23.30 | drmessano | A 5 min expiring pastebin and a PM with a link goes a long way |
| 23:23.30 | SteveTotaro | someone looking for me? |
| 23:23.34 | drmessano | SteveTotaro: Yes |
| 23:23.44 | drmessano | I found an issue with my setup lol |
| 23:24.01 | drmessano | Chan_mobile, etc |
| 23:24.14 | drmessano | I can answer calls on my cell, but no audio |
| 23:24.15 | SteveTotaro | so what's teh problemo |
| 23:24.34 | SteveTotaro | have you tried a different phone? |
| 23:24.41 | SteveTotaro | maybe incompatible |
| 23:24.42 | drmessano | oh hang on |
| 23:24.53 | Paladine | drmessano, so if I go with something like Digium TDM11B (1 fxs + 1 fxo) we would be able to use our existing dect phones to dial out through asterisk? |
| 23:24.55 | drmessano | I think I may have just found it to be intermittent |
| 23:25.21 | rhombus | drmessano: i'll try that next time :) |
| 23:26.07 | SteveTotaro | try a different phone and see if distance is the issue |
| 23:26.22 | SteveTotaro | that BT stuff never goes as far as advertised |
| 23:26.28 | drmessano | its 6 feet |
| 23:26.33 | drmessano | Distance isnt it |
| 23:26.41 | drmessano | yes, I just made another call and it not work |
| 23:26.42 | SteveTotaro | plus update bluez if you can |
| 23:26.46 | drmessano | Hmm |
| 23:27.07 | drmessano | Theres a thought.. Im using whats likely an old RPM |
| 23:27.14 | drmessano | From the CentOS repo |
| 23:27.38 | *** join/#asterisk Frogzoo (n=Frogzoo@CPE-124-176-68-122.nsw.bigpond.net.au) |
| 23:27.51 | drmessano | 3.7 |
| 23:28.09 | drmessano | oh geez |
| 23:28.12 | drmessano | They're at 3.27 |
| 23:28.53 | SteveTotaro | worth a try |
| 23:29.12 | drmessano | Yeah... I will do that.. See how it goes |
| 23:29.49 | drmessano | I had a problem earlier with no audio and could have sword I could answer both places |
| 23:30.13 | drmessano | and just when I started to think I was crazy and it never worked, I made another call and had audio when I answered on the cell |
| 23:30.30 | drmessano | Then another call with no audio |
| 23:30.33 | drmessano | So.. worth a try |
| 23:30.40 | drmessano | sworn* |
| 23:30.57 | drmessano | sword too.. maybe I need a big sword |
| 23:31.03 | kamitodo | Do the extensions have to be numbers? If no, then, how is the extension dialed? |
| 23:31.19 | drmessano | kamitodo: I have a thru z on my phone |
| 23:31.49 | drmessano | But c u s t o m e r s e r v i c e takes longer to dial than 123 |
| 23:32.11 | mmurdock | uhuh. |
| 23:32.23 | drmessano | Generally SIP aliases are for joe@domain.com calls |
| 23:32.32 | kamitodo | drmessano: What if the phone doesn't have a separate (or switchable) keyboard? |
| 23:32.45 | drmessano | Then we use numbers like the rest of the planet |
| 23:34.03 | drmessano | X-Lite will make alphanumeric sip calls, as will some other softphones |
| 23:34.17 | kamitodo | drmessano: thanks, sorry for the stupid quesiton. it's a bit overwhelming trying to figure out everything in one day. |
| 23:34.26 | drmessano | It wasnt stupid |
| 23:34.30 | kamitodo | x-lite does it? how? |
| 23:35.06 | drmessano | for example, I can type on the keypad joe@domain.com and asterisk will attempt the call |
| 23:35.22 | drmessano | Thats the backbone of so called "unified messaging" using SIP aliases |
| 23:35.37 | kamitodo | type where? on x-lite? |
| 23:35.41 | drmessano | danny@hah.com is my email address, my phone address, etc |
| 23:35.49 | drmessano | Hit the space bar to change to alpha |
| 23:36.02 | drmessano | and type in blah@blah.com and hit send |
| 23:36.34 | kamitodo | aha! |
| 23:38.18 | kamitodo | are some ip phones as sofisticated as x-lite? for example, can i bound a sip address to a speed dial address (or would I do the mapping through a short extension in asterisk?) |
| 23:38.47 | drmessano | I dunno |
| 23:39.01 | drmessano | You can set up an extension in asterisk just fine for it |
| 23:39.05 | drmessano | I do that all the time |
| 23:39.14 | drmessano | SIP/steve@hah.com |
| 23:39.34 | kamitodo | understood |
| 23:39.41 | drmessano | SIP/customerservicesucks@vonage.com |
| 23:39.43 | drmessano | etc |
| 23:40.09 | drmessano | SIP/diningonyourliver@eight.com |
| 23:40.28 | drmessano | Thats hannibal lecter, BTW |
| 23:40.30 | drmessano | be careful |
| 23:40.45 | drmessano | dinner, bbiaf |
| 23:40.46 | kamitodo | hehe :-) |
| 23:40.52 | *** part/#asterisk rhombus (n=sfbosch@dsl-vlan435-66-18-218-36.nucleus.com) |
| 23:41.20 | kamitodo | is it a good idea to map a bunch of contact to short local extensions for speed dialing? |
| 23:41.22 | SteveTotaro | Join the Asterisk Team @ World Community Grid http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/team/viewTeamInfo.do?teamId=GCHH2PTJQ1 |
| 23:41.26 | *** join/#asterisk Greek-Boy (n=email@41.221.58.4) |
| 23:43.35 | Greek-Boy | does ${DIALEDPEERNUMBER} work or not? |
| 23:47.47 | SteveTotaro | ~book |
| 23:47.48 | jbot | Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com, or see ~buybook |
| 23:50.57 | *** join/#asterisk _n2deep_ (i=chrism@205.234.188.41) |
| 23:51.13 | _n2deep_ | is it cool to ask questions in here? |
| 23:51.51 | mosty | don't ask to ask, just ask |
| 23:51.55 | *** join/#asterisk ManxPower (n=manxpowe@ip72-204-168-61.no.no.cox.net) |
| 23:52.01 | _n2deep_ | =) |
| 23:52.09 | Greek-Boy | does ${DIALEDPEERNUMBER} work or not? |
| 23:52.30 | _n2deep_ | So I did a FreePBX upgrade on an inherited Asterisk system. Failboat. I've gotten just about everything else to work again, except this |
| 23:52.30 | ManxPower | Greek-Boy: what version of Asterisk? |
| 23:52.39 | Greek-Boy | 1.4.18 |
| 23:52.55 | Greek-Boy | i have a PRI to a mobile company |
| 23:53.05 | ManxPower | _n2deep_: We are sorry for your loss. You should go to #freepbx for grief counseling. |
| 23:53.06 | _n2deep_ | calls can come in, hit the IVR and get routed to a queue. I have phone techs logged into that existing queue, however they never get a pending call routed to their phone, they just sit there. Any ideas where I should be looking? |
| 23:53.12 | Greek-Boy | i need to know the dialed number so I can know which extension to send it to |
| 23:53.17 | _n2deep_ | hah yeah, lesson == learned here =( |
| 23:53.22 | mosty | _n2deep_, try #freepbx |
| 23:53.57 | _n2deep_ | dead chan, which is why i'm here. =( I'm going to be rebuilding the pbx in a day or two when my new card gets here, but I just wanna get this thing rolling now if possible. =( |
| 23:54.07 | mosty | Greek-Boy, are you talking about incoming calls? |
| 23:54.13 | Greek-Boy | yes |
| 23:54.30 | drmessano | _n2deep_: I didnt see where you asked your question in there |
| 23:54.41 | _n2deep_ | scroll up. =) |
| 23:54.49 | mosty | Greek-Boy, are they coming in as iax, sip, pri or what? |
| 23:54.49 | _n2deep_ | oh, nick was chrism in there |
| 23:54.53 | drmessano | oh |
| 23:54.54 | ManxPower | _n2deep_: what makes you think we can help with a system that is so complex we would have no idea even where to start? |
| 23:54.55 | _n2deep_ | i had to change it / reg to get into here |
| 23:55.08 | ManxPower | FreePBX is not just Asterisk with a different name. |
| 23:55.12 | ManxPower | ~freepbx |
| 23:55.13 | jbot | [~freepbx] FreePBX is unable to be supported here. It is made up of complex dialplans and scripts which can't be easily supported by people who aren't deeply involved. Try joining #freepbx and asking there |
| 23:55.22 | _n2deep_ | Just figured you might have an idea here. =) |
| 23:55.23 | Greek-Boy | mosty they are coming in as pri (zap) |
| 23:55.25 | ManxPower | And THAT is the REASON |
| 23:55.31 | _n2deep_ | hah fair enough |
| 23:55.48 | mosty | Greek-Boy, then ${EXTEN} should be what you want |
| 23:56.57 | Greek-Boy | mosty but i dont want the call to be answered and then IVR. I want it to ring directly to an extension |
| 23:57.36 | mosty | Greek-Boy, referencing ${EXTEN} doesn't automatically answer a call |
| 23:58.15 | Greek-Boy | yes but the dialed number has to come through the PRI signalling, isn't it so? |
| 23:58.34 | Greek-Boy | asterisk knows the caller id but does not know the dialed number |
| 23:58.55 | mosty | Greek-Boy, asterisk does know the dialed number with PRI |
| 23:59.11 | mosty | it's only analogue zap lines where asterisk doesn't know the dialed number |
| 23:59.15 | Greek-Boy | and that is with ${EXTEN}? |
| 23:59.54 | mosty | yes. put this in your incoming context: exten => _X.,1,NoOp(call came in to: ${EXTEN}) and see for yourself |
| 23:59.54 | ManxPower | Greek-Boy: ${EXTEN} is the dialed number except for in cases of Analog FXO, Macro, Goto, or T-1 FXO |
