| 00:00.24 | lmadsen | _ShrikE: and russellb is right in that using a real DB with func_odbc is the better approach |
| 00:03.35 | _ShrikE | lmadsen: thanks... Im looking into it. |
| 00:03.54 | lmadsen | see chapter 12 of TFoT2 for how to use func_odbc |
| 00:04.12 | lmadsen | best chapter in the book, imho :) |
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| 00:14.20 | jwh | .. |
| 00:14.27 | jwh | 97247 root 5 -4 0 1462M 602M STOP 0:08 2.10% asterisk |
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| 00:19.45 | mvanbaak | damn, openfire _IS_ leet |
| 00:23.15 | Stefan1979 | Hello.. Anyone here that have experience with installing openvox bri interface card with asterisk 1.4? (or can direct me to wich path to take on the road ;) |
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| 00:25.10 | [TK]D-Fender | Stefan1979, It installs like any other Digium zaptel card. Go read THE BOOK |
| 00:25.14 | [TK]D-Fender | ~book |
| 00:25.14 | jbot | Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com |
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| 00:26.44 | Stefan1979 | [TK]D-Fender: Well.. it seems that zaptel are missing the qozap module.. But i'll try the book... |
| 00:29.21 | [TK]D-Fender | Stefan1979, Actually I missed BRI.... looks like its Junghans compatible. Follow instructions for one of those |
| 00:30.19 | mvanbaak | qozap is bristuff only |
| 00:30.42 | mvanbaak | the latest 0.4 test version of bristuff is stable |
| 00:30.45 | mvanbaak | so use that one |
| 00:30.49 | Stefan1979 | [TK]D-Fender: I followed the junghanns instructions and the documenation from openvox. |
| 00:31.27 | Stefan1979 | mvanbaak: it seems that the "patched" qozap from openvox aren't compatible with bristuff 0.4 |
| 00:31.30 | mvanbaak | if you want support with BRI cards, get a digium bri interface card |
| 00:31.44 | tzafrir_home | Stefan1979, which version of bristuff do you use? |
| 00:32.03 | tzafrir_home | actually latest bristuff looks much nicer |
| 00:32.15 | Stefan1979 | I've tried the newest 0.3.0 (wich links againt asterisk 1.2) and 0.4.0 |
| 00:32.52 | mvanbaak | latest bristuff still wont work with sangoma cards |
| 00:33.35 | mvanbaak | I have to grab stock zaptel, use Setup of wanpipe |
| 00:33.49 | mvanbaak | and after that I can run a manual patchround on the asterisk |
| 00:33.55 | tzafrir_home | mvanbaak, then use stock zaptel and the rest of bristuff |
| 00:34.01 | mvanbaak | yeah |
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| 00:34.22 | mvanbaak | tzafrir_home: I think bristuff should mention that in thheir docs |
| 00:34.29 | tzafrir_home | basically, just rm zaptel (the symlink) when building bristuff |
| 00:35.02 | tzafrir_home | I'll add it... |
| 00:35.02 | mvanbaak | what I do now is: |
| 00:35.05 | mvanbaak | download bristuff |
| 00:35.08 | mvanbaak | untar it |
| 00:35.12 | mvanbaak | remove zaptel |
| 00:35.30 | mvanbaak | checkout stock zaptel |
| 00:35.37 | mvanbaak | place symlinks |
| 00:35.42 | mvanbaak | run sangoma Setup |
| 00:35.45 | Ritzerisk | for a gui... how would you place the gui in developer mode |
| 00:35.48 | tzafrir_home | that's too much work.... |
| 00:35.51 | mvanbaak | run bristuff compile.sh |
| 00:36.21 | mvanbaak | tzafrir_home: it's the only way I can install bristuff on a sangoma setup |
| 00:36.36 | mvanbaak | yeah, I know, junghanns sells E1 as well |
| 00:36.39 | mvanbaak | and digium too |
| 00:36.39 | tzafrir_home | ok, basically you should have just edited patches/zaptel/series, and *wham*, no patches applied to zaptel |
| 00:38.01 | tzafrir_home | Stefan1979, what is the output of: zaptel_hardware |
| 00:38.17 | Stefan1979 | pci:0000:00:0a.0 qozap- 1397:08b4 Junghanns QuadBRI ISDN card |
| 00:38.30 | tzafrir_home | lszaptel |
| 00:38.51 | Stefan1979 | tzafrir_home: cd asterisk-1* && ./configure && make menuselect && make && make install && make samples && cd .. |
| 00:38.53 | Stefan1979 | ups |
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| 00:39.02 | Stefan1979 | tzafrir_home: ### Span 1: ZTDUMMY/1 "ZTDUMMY/1 (source: HRtimer) 1" |
| 00:39.15 | tzafrir_home | modinfo qozap |
| 00:39.49 | tzafrir_home | Did you run 'make' on your own in the zaptel dorectory, or did you use compile.sh ? |
| 00:40.29 | Stefan1979 | tzafrir_home: modinfo qozap seems ok.. i bit much to paste in public. |
| 00:40.54 | mvanbaak | ~pb |
| 00:40.55 | jbot | [~pb] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste |
| 00:40.57 | Stefan1979 | tzafrir_home: I've tried both (compile my own 1.4 and compile.sh) |
| 00:41.14 | Stefan1979 | mvanbaak: thx..;) |
| 00:41.32 | tzafrir_home | ok, so qozap was built and installed, now: |
| 00:41.40 | tzafrir_home | genzaptelconf -sdvM |
| 00:44.13 | mvanbaak | ok |
| 00:44.16 | mvanbaak | I'm off to bed |
| 00:44.19 | mvanbaak | latero all |
| 00:44.29 | Stefan1979 | Dosn't seem to load the qozap module |
| 00:44.30 | Stefan1979 | [12912.883294] qozap: Unknown symbol zt_alarm_notify_no_master_change |
| 00:44.38 | Stefan1979 | later mvanbaak |
| 00:48.42 | tzafrir_home | hmm,,, is that zaptel from bristuff? |
| 00:49.22 | tzafrir_home | cat /sys/modules/zaptel/version |
| 00:50.19 | tzafrir_home | any chance you installed original zaptel later on? |
| 00:50.46 | Stefan1979 | I could happen since i've messed alot around ;) |
| 00:51.03 | Stefan1979 | I'll just try with bristuff 0.4 install script.. |
| 00:51.39 | tzafrir_home | just compile.sh |
| 00:51.47 | tzafrir_home | no need to download packages again |
| 00:52.46 | Stefan1979 | Oh well.. 20 Mbit/s not taking that much time.. ;) |
| 00:53.01 | Stefan1979 | (waste of bandwith(r)) |
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| 00:57.00 | Stefan1979 | tzafrir_home: cat /sys/modules/zaptel/version -> FATAL: Error inserting qozap (/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-server/misc/qozap.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) |
| 00:57.31 | Stefan1979 | tzafrir_home: qozap: disagrees about version of symbol zt_alarm_notify, qozap: Unknown symbol zt_alarm_notify |
| 00:59.12 | drmessano | jblack: you around? |
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| 01:01.04 | drmessano | I got dacs/piper69 mostly working, but FWD sucks |
| 01:01.08 | Jam0r | anyone know of any possible solution to the problems with iax2 and handling large call volumes? getting crashes/locking up/thread errors etc when trying to do large call volume |
| 01:04.13 | jblack | drmessano: Yup |
| 01:04.38 | jblack | drmessano: Last I checked, fwd services were back. Probably weren't gone, as I had a dialplan bug. |
| 01:04.43 | drmessano | Well |
| 01:04.53 | jblack | want me to check? |
| 01:04.55 | drmessano | I can see im dialing out on my fwd trunk |
| 01:05.12 | drmessano | but its giving me circuit busy |
| 01:05.20 | jblack | Oh, try calling me at 885476 if you want to try. |
| 01:05.26 | drmessano | hang on |
| 01:05.52 | jblack | If you can catch the Dial() log action if you have trouble, that'll be nice. |
| 01:06.03 | drmessano | I can dial 613 |
| 01:06.15 | drmessano | and its not a dialplan issue, its grabbing the right trunk |
| 01:06.19 | drmessano | Dunno |
| 01:06.28 | jblack | Also 612? |
| 01:06.33 | drmessano | Hmm |
| 01:06.58 | jblack | 612 is here. Just checked. |
| 01:07.00 | tzafrir_home | Stefan1979, find /lib/modules -name zaptel.ko |
| 01:07.08 | drmessano | 612 working |
| 01:07.12 | jblack | Also, I can hang out in coffeehouse if you like (514) |
| 01:07.34 | drmessano | Thats odd |
| 01:07.47 | Stefan1979 | tzafrir_home: /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-server/misc/zaptel.ko |
| 01:08.03 | drmessano | dacs is regged.. and hes got his IPKALL dialing his FWD |
| 01:08.09 | drmessano | I can see it working |
| 01:08.14 | drmessano | But when I call it from here, its not |
| 01:08.18 | drmessano | and I can call you |
| 01:08.25 | jblack | Ok. Let me hang up on coffeehouse |
| 01:08.41 | drmessano | Igot your IVR |
| 01:08.58 | drmessano | Lemme check his box and see if its burping |
| 01:09.04 | jblack | Ok. |
| 01:09.34 | jblack | I have an ipkall too, that you can test if you like. 206-203-5855 |
| 01:09.52 | jblack | that also goes to my ivr, if you're human-voice-averse |
| 01:09.58 | tzafrir_home | Stefan1979, ls -l /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-server/misc/zaptel.ko /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-server/misc/qozap.ko |
| 01:12.04 | drmessano | If I can get his IPKALL routed properly, im done |
| 01:12.20 | Stefan1979 | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 182891 2008-01-13 02:08 /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-server/misc/qozap.ko |
| 01:12.20 | Stefan1979 | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 399778 2008-01-13 02:08 /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-server/misc/zaptel.ko |
| 01:12.25 | jblack | Oh, are you trying to fwd->ipkall ? |
| 01:12.29 | drmessano | no |
| 01:12.32 | drmessano | Hes got it set that way |
| 01:12.36 | drmessano | and thats YUCK |
| 01:12.43 | jblack | Why did he do that? |
| 01:12.50 | drmessano | I dunno, told him not to |
| 01:13.08 | drmessano | What I usually do is.. |
| 01:13.14 | drmessano | SIP Number: IPKALLDID |
| 01:13.19 | drmessano | sip proxy: mypbx |
| 01:13.26 | drmessano | and I route the IPKALL |
| 01:13.38 | drmessano | it sends the call to ipkalldid@mypbx.com |
| 01:13.43 | drmessano | which is damn handy |
| 01:14.00 | jblack | I just route ipkall straight to my * box. |
| 01:14.18 | drmessano | I just said that |
| 01:14.25 | drmessano | lol |
| 01:14.37 | jblack | Oh, thought mypbx.com was some sort of service. |
| 01:14.40 | drmessano | no |
| 01:16.15 | tzafrir_home | grep zt_alarm_notify_no_master_change zaptel/zaptel-base.c |
| 01:16.27 | tzafrir_home | let's make sure that the patch was applied |
| 01:17.06 | tzafrir_home | also: rmmod zaptel; modprobe qozap |
| 01:17.18 | tzafrir_home | have you managed to rmmod zaptel, or was it busy? |
| 01:18.16 | tzafrir_home | maybe an older copy of zaptel is still loaded |
| 01:18.38 | tzafrir_home | well, /me is off to bed. Good luck... |
| 01:19.04 | Stefan1979 | tzafrir_home: thanks for the support! I'll try |
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| 01:35.27 | jblack | That's it. I now know * can do anything but make me belgium waffles in the morning. And I'm not too sure it can't. |
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| 01:36.41 | Oleg | can I use asterisk with normal phones? |
| 01:37.52 | jblack | Oleg: Yes, with what's called an ATA (analog telephone adapter). |
| 01:37.52 | jwh | "Normal phones" ? |
| 01:37.57 | jwh | oh |
| 01:38.00 | Oleg | rj-11 |
| 01:38.07 | Oleg | non tehcnical |
| 01:38.09 | jwh | then as jblack, ATA |
| 01:38.28 | jblack | You can get 1 port - zillion port ones. I have an 8 port that turns up to 8 analog lines into 8 sip lines, which cost me $250 |
| 01:39.13 | jblack | Don't cheap out and get a 1-4 port. Installing more lines is addictive. |
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| 01:39.48 | Oleg | I just wanted to know if I could use the existing cabeling in my house |
| 01:40.00 | Oleg | and not buy extra software/hardware |
| 01:40.33 | jblack | That depends upon the software/hardware you have. |
| 01:40.57 | jblack | You can download and use sip phones on your computer. There's many free software ones, and a few no-cost ones as well. |
| 01:41.36 | jblack | But simply speaking, your old fashioned phone doesn't know how to talk ethernet, which makes plugging it into a hub a rather pointless excursion. |
| 01:41.57 | Oleg | I didn't want to rewrite anything |
| 01:42.07 | Oleg | phone company disconnected our service |
| 01:42.16 | jblack | You have ethernet already? |
| 01:42.19 | Oleg | and we're cool with that, noone uses it, we use our cellphones |
| 01:42.25 | Oleg | no, no either net |
| 01:42.39 | Oleg | hence why I also wanted to know if I could use nromal phones |
| 01:42.42 | Oleg | and the original wireing |
| 01:43.05 | jblack | If all of the wiring goes to the same place, you can plug the phones into an ATA adapter, which you'd have to buy. |
| 01:44.17 | jblack | With that and a * server, you then nearly instantly have your own pbx. give everyone their own extensions so they can call one another, set up prompts for people that dial into the main line they can choose who to contact. You could even do your own internal wakeup call service. |
| 01:45.03 | Oleg | yeah, I would like that, but wanted to know if there was a way I could get it to work without me having to get extra things |
| 01:45.08 | Oleg | looks like I can't |
| 01:45.09 | Oleg | oh well |
| 01:45.15 | Oleg | looks like a new project |
| 01:45.24 | Oleg | I was planning on wiriting up the house anyways |
| 01:45.29 | Oleg | wiring* |
| 01:46.00 | jblack | I just rewired a big chunk of my home too, after I started with * |
| 01:46.17 | Oleg | but the thing that sucks, I've never wired anything |
| 01:46.25 | Oleg | and I'm not sure where I want to do it |
| 01:46.35 | Oleg | as in like do I want it in every room or not |
| 01:46.45 | jblack | I can tell you what you can do, and I can tell you what you need to do it. |
| 01:47.13 | jblack | well, I could later. For now, I need to go for 90 minutes. |
| 01:47.18 | Oleg | okay |
| 01:47.19 | Oleg | cya |
| 01:47.21 | Oleg | and thanks |
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| 01:50.01 | andresmujica | hi |
| 01:50.21 | andresmujica | anyone knows a SIP phone for Windows Mobile? |
| 01:50.39 | andresmujica | i need a VoIP Phone for a QTEK 9100 |
| 01:50.51 | andresmujica | such thing exists? |
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| 03:52.53 | drmessano | Is there a good reference how to get some of the google talk stuff working? |
| 03:53.37 | jblack | omg. omg omg |
| 03:54.06 | Nugget | I compiled the jabber stuff in the last time I upgraded but I've been too lazy to try to make it work. |
| 03:54.46 | jblack | drmessano: You know the mrdigital saga, right? |
| 03:55.50 | drmessano | yes lol |
| 03:56.20 | Oleg | jblack, you ran the cables into your attic and then into the rooms? |
| 03:56.28 | jblack | http://pastebin.com/m1a02261d |
| 03:56.39 | jblack | oleg: No, just the basement, first floor and part of the second. |
| 03:57.00 | drmessano | R |
| 03:57.00 | drmessano | O |
| 03:57.01 | drmessano | F |
| 03:57.01 | drmessano | L |
| 03:57.24 | jblack | It's getting better. |
| 03:58.06 | jblack | http://pastebin.com/m31a90810 |
| 04:00.01 | drmessano | http://www.apollosmarthomes.com/ |
| 04:00.05 | drmessano | Sounds legit |
| 04:00.16 | jblack | lol |
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| 04:03.26 | Oleg | $12 a year for a domain with joker.com, heh |
| 04:03.27 | Oleg | too much |
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| 04:03.47 | drmessano | Oleg |
| 04:04.00 | drmessano | $12 is a small fee for the millions you'll make as distict manager |
| 04:04.05 | drmessano | district |
| 04:04.17 | jblack | http://pastebin.com/m4e228a29 |
| 04:04.29 | Oleg | lol |
| 04:06.39 | jblack | Yeah. I'd come out of retirement for 80k. |
| 04:08.09 | Oleg | so you've done this for a living? running cables? |
| 04:08.38 | jblack | It's been a while since I did it professionally. Generally, I _detest_ running cable. |
| 04:08.58 | drmessano | mrdigital ran a cable UNDER a fucking tennis court with a coathanger and saliva.. it cant be THAT hard |
| 04:09.07 | jblack | No. Under *4* tennis courts. |
| 04:09.11 | drmessano | ROFL |
| 04:09.20 | jblack | In 12 hours. With one eye |
| 04:09.28 | drmessano | and 9 good fingers? |
| 04:09.28 | Oleg | heh |
| 04:09.32 | jblack | And through a grove of trees. |
| 04:09.46 | Oleg | not impressed, would have been more if he had no eyes |
| 04:10.05 | jblack | As it so happens.... |
| 04:10.18 | drmessano | Drilled a hole in a concrete block wall with a centerpunch and a rubber mallet |
| 04:10.22 | jblack | He did this between the hours of 11pm and 12pm, so most of it was in pitch black darkness. |
| 04:10.47 | jblack | Right, drmessano? |
| 04:11.32 | Oleg | I drilled a hole into a concrete floor the other day |
| 04:11.38 | Oleg | to secure a rack to it |
| 04:11.47 | Oleg | then I touched the drill bit |
| 04:11.49 | Oleg | :( |
| 04:11.54 | jblack | lol. |
| 04:11.58 | jblack | Still have a mark, I bet. |
| 04:12.12 | Oleg | you know... I still do |
| 04:12.23 | Oleg | I kept on thinking it was dirt or something |
| 04:12.34 | Oleg | so I was there for like 10 minutes trying to wash it off |
| 04:12.45 | drmessano | yes |
| 04:12.47 | drmessano | brb 1 min |
| 04:12.53 | Oleg | touched it just on the tip of my index finger |
| 04:12.58 | jblack | Nah. That'll be burned subcutaneous skin. It'll probably be there for weeks. Possibly even a couple months |
| 04:13.35 | jblack | I'd file for job disability, due to "inability to point and wipe one's own ass" |
| 04:13.49 | Oleg | haha |
| 04:13.53 | Oleg | I'm in intern |
| 04:13.58 | Oleg | so not much I can do |
| 04:14.24 | jblack | Oh, I'm afraid there's no disability for subhumans. You'll work, you'll work for free, and you'll like it. |
| 04:14.38 | Oleg | I get paid |
| 04:14.40 | Oleg | :) |
| 04:14.56 | jblack | As an intern? Not bad! |
| 04:15.12 | Oleg | $12/hr |
| 04:15.40 | Oleg | its a state job, so I get some perks |
| 04:16.04 | jblack | Ahh. That makes more sense. |
| 04:16.45 | Oleg | sleep in |
| 04:16.49 | Oleg | I can't do that |
| 04:16.55 | jblack | Yeah, but I sleep in every day. |
| 04:17.42 | jblack | Good news. The '07 darwin awards are in |
| 04:18.51 | Oleg | so then make a wake up call |
| 04:19.16 | jblack | Yeah. |
| 04:21.01 | drmessano | jblack: my friend Josh thinks youre a riot |
| 04:21.07 | drmessano | Dont worry, I set him straight |
| 04:21.34 | jblack | I'm a riot? |
| 04:21.49 | jblack | I'm not even drunk! |
| 04:22.43 | jblack | Heh. When I brought my kid to the ER on thursday, I got her to bust out laughing by saying "George Washington was the first president of the united states". |
| 04:23.04 | jblack | Which _really_ pissed her off, since she was in ER for a possible strep infection. |
| 04:24.17 | drmessano | ROFL |
| 04:24.35 | jblack | You should have seen the look on her face by the time I got to bush. |
| 04:24.44 | drmessano | Josh and I have a long history of dealing with IRC trolls |
| 04:24.56 | jblack | Tears of laughter, tears of joy... I couldn't quite pick them apart. |
| 04:25.27 | jblack | I'm not a troll! I'd like to be, but I just can't intone "Who's that trip-trapping upon my bridge" in boomy enough tones. |
| 04:25.35 | drmessano | LOL |
| 04:26.03 | WilliamK | anyone here by chance use DeleGate for a proxy server? |
| 04:26.10 | jblack | Not I. |
| 04:26.13 | drmessano | mrdigital is the classic "I left my job at NASA because they I didnt like the direction their rocket program was going" type |
| 04:26.49 | jblack | What? "up" was too un-satisfactory for him? There's so many other degrees of freedom to choose from! |
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| 04:27.24 | jblack | He went quiet after that lats paste. |
| 04:27.38 | drmessano | lol |
| 04:28.05 | jblack | Probably went off to singlehandedly wire hawaii. |
| 04:28.51 | drmessano | OAHUUUUHUUUU |
| 04:29.11 | drmessano | I should offer him a job |
| 04:29.13 | jblack | I know. He's running cat5 to the moon. ;) |
| 04:29.21 | drmessano | "Can you crimp RJ11s on Fiber?" |
| 04:29.28 | jblack | lol! |
| 04:29.28 | drmessano | "youre hired" |
| 04:30.01 | jblack | I ran fiber on a gator freighter once. |
| 04:30.15 | jblack | Which was the first, and last, time that I ran fibre. |
| 04:30.23 | drmessano | lol |
| 04:31.09 | jblack | This was back when I was in the navy. Somewhere, somewhy, somehow, several spools of fibre showed up, unaccounted for. So, some admiral decides "I know! We'll run it through a ship!" |
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| 04:31.40 | jblack | I don't know if you've ever done shipboard wiring, but it's an amazingly hostile environment. |
| 04:31.55 | drmessano | No, but I can imagine |
| 04:31.58 | drmessano | Well |
| 04:32.05 | drmessano | I cant imagine.. just seems really shit hard |
| 04:32.24 | jblack | Oh, of all the things that make the shit hard, it's the shit that makes the shit hard. |
| 04:32.35 | drmessano | lol |
| 04:33.19 | jblack | In order to maintain watertight integrity (spanish for "help it float), putty is crammed into the wiring between bulkheads (walls). |
| 04:33.40 | jblack | The slang term for it in the navy is "monkey shit". It's dense, sticky, and _never_ gets out of your hair. |
| 04:34.34 | drmessano | wow |
| 04:34.43 | jblack | So imagine runinng thousands of feet of cable through already-overpacked cable runs, every 8-15 feet having to cram cable through stuff the consistancy of....... |
| 04:34.54 | drmessano | I wonder if thats the same stuff they use for sealing antennas with |
| 04:35.14 | drmessano | Marketed as Coax Seal |
| 04:35.16 | drmessano | and other names |
| 04:35.45 | jblack | It's probably quite similiar. This stuff is meant to hold water out (well, staunch the flow, anyways), during sinking events, though... So it needs to handle many atmospheres of pressure |
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| 04:36.08 | jblack | Other than the density of it, it's probaby the same stuff. |
| 04:37.18 | drmessano | This stuff gets in your hair, on your face, in places you didnt know you exposed to the project |
| 04:37.50 | jblack | And because it's water resistant, you can't get it out. |
| 04:38.06 | drmessano | I was building a transmitter site, and I used it to seal a ground kit I installed.. I think its still stuck to me somewhere.. that was 10 years ago |
| 04:38.14 | jblack | Personally, I suspect the scrape the crap up off of the bottom of oil tankers. |
| 04:38.24 | jblack | s/the/they |
| 04:38.48 | jblack | jbot: say something nice |
| 04:38.48 | jbot | something nice |
| 04:38.59 | drmessano | jbot: say poo |
| 04:38.59 | jbot | poo |
| 04:39.17 | drmessano | jbot: say BAN ME, I <3 TRIXBOX |
| 04:39.17 | jbot | BAN ME, I <3 TRIXBOX |
| 04:39.20 | jblack | jbot: When will the robotic overlords take over? |
| 04:39.48 | jblack | Silly botty. Trix are for kids. |
| 04:41.55 | drmessano | Professional apps should not have the words Magic, Tricks, or Rabbit in them |
| 04:42.38 | drmessano | But HappyClownPhone is PERFECTLY acceptible |
| 04:42.39 | jblack | No, much better when they're "Professionally Enhanced, with new CRM feature!" |
| 04:42.47 | drmessano | and is now 100% Trixbox compliant |
| 04:42.55 | drmessano | Yes |
| 04:43.00 | drmessano | Everyone needs a CRM |
| 04:43.28 | jblack | I have one. I call it my "end call" button |
| 04:43.56 | jblack | Ok, not really. But I wish it were that way |
| 04:44.41 | jblack | Sometimes I thnk customers are like boats. The only day better than getting them, is the day you get rid of them. |
| 04:45.28 | drmessano | CRMs are a big gimmick |
| 04:46.18 | jblack | Maybe that's because you don't have a Shockwave enhanced, Web 3.0, Java CRM. Now with mysql. |
| 04:47.05 | drmessano | Yeah |
| 04:47.53 | drmessano | SugarCRM is a bloated mess, Vtiger needs a LOT of work.. and beyond that theres tons of commercial apps that are just a way to bleed $$$ |
| 04:48.13 | drmessano | Theres NO consistancy between them |
| 04:48.19 | drmessano | So you ask for a CRM and it could mean 100 things |
| 04:48.57 | drmessano | I think once people figure out what a CRM is, they'll realize they don't need one |
| 04:49.04 | drmessano | Until they, DEPLOY, DEPLOY, DEPLOY!!! |
| 04:49.16 | drmessano | then* |
| 04:49.31 | jblack | Heh. Give 'em quickbooks or gnucash, and when they figure it out, they'll thank you. |
| 04:50.03 | drmessano | All you need is a web based phonebook |
| 04:50.07 | drmessano | At best |
| 04:50.20 | jblack | Nah. There's a solid need for billing and invoice tracking |
| 04:50.42 | drmessano | Thats not a CRM, thats a billing system |
| 04:50.46 | jblack | With a phoenbook built in, so that you can ask them why they're not paying your bills. |
| 04:51.25 | drmessano | lol |
| 04:51.37 | jblack | I guess it depends upon which end of the telescope you look at it with. |
| 04:52.22 | drmessano | Actually |
| 04:52.33 | jblack | I've tracked client management with accounting software. I billed people each time I talked to them, even if I gave them a 100% discount. It was just a nice way to see their histories and know whether or not I was making enough money off them to give them more free work. |
| 04:52.33 | drmessano | A billing system + phonebook would be the thing |
| 04:52.54 | drmessano | That has serious utility |
| 04:53.26 | jblack | You forgot I'm a super-jean-ous, eh? |
| 04:53.50 | drmessano | You got nothing on mrdigital |
| 04:54.12 | jblack | I bet you that I have at _least_ 100 pounds on mrdigital. ;) |
| 04:56.18 | jblack | Hmm. gnucash is up to 2.2.1. I wonder how it's improved since 1.8.4 |
| 04:56.19 | drmessano | lol |
| 04:56.32 | jblack | Hey, were you the one screwing with FWD earlier? |
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| 05:10.04 | drmessano | Yes |
| 05:11.33 | jblack | Did you get everything sorted out? |
| 05:11.44 | drmessano | Sort of |
| 05:11.49 | drmessano | It appears to be working |
| 05:12.04 | drmessano | But how do you ever REALLY know? lol |
| 05:12.39 | jblack | Get a verified call in each direction? |
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| 05:13.07 | Odie_flocon | allo |
| 05:13.16 | jblack | You're still welcome to call me anytime. |
| 05:13.22 | jblack | Hi odie. What's shaking? |
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| 05:25.19 | drmessano | http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/01/12/1312258&from=rss |
| 05:25.23 | drmessano | XKCD FTFW |
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| 05:28.38 | Nugget | Make me a sandwich. |
| 05:29.36 | drmessano | "no" |
| 05:29.54 | drmessano | sudo make me a sandwich |
| 05:29.58 | drmessano | LOVE that one |
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| 05:30.57 | drmessano | "do raptors fear fire" |
| 05:33.55 | drmessano | rm -rf /etc/sudoers |
| 05:33.59 | drmessano | MAKE YOUR OWN SANDWICH |
| 05:34.33 | puck | jblack: Gnucash 2.2.1 is much better, it uses GTK2 now! |
| 05:34.52 | drmessano | Cool |
| 05:34.53 | Nugget | that's an improvement? :) |
| 05:35.07 | Nugget | it already required about 3TB in dependencies before GTK2. |
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| 06:16.35 | jblack | La de da |
| 06:17.30 | drmessano | Exactly |
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| 06:18.50 | jblack | I'm bored. |
| 06:19.18 | jblack | Of course.. .with the rates I'm getting, I can afford to prank call iraq. |
| 06:19.31 | drmessano | lol |
| 06:20.22 | jblack | I'm really impressed by callwith us. |
| 06:20.38 | jblack | I've dealt with 'em in email 3 times, and each time, they answered in 15 minutes. |
| 06:20.56 | jblack | If that. that's as frequently as I pull mail. |
| 06:21.56 | jblack | They have this... call auction thing going on, where I guess companies can bid on the per minute rate for your call, and your call takes the cheapest one. |
| 06:23.33 | jblack | Seems to have worked out, as most us calls for me so far have been .0127 a minute. |
| 06:24.10 | drmessano | Thats cool... 2 1/2 cents a minute cheaper than what I got |
| 06:26.36 | jblack | Yeah. Ther's a slightly disturbing aspect to it though. Their blog from last week said "If you're seeing bad routes, tell us so we can drop them" |
| 06:27.13 | jblack | I guess it's good they're fixing problems, but it's disturbing that they have a problem to fix in that regard. |
| 06:28.57 | jblack | I even like their fine print. |
| 06:29.50 | jblack | "Fine print: All prices are final, there are no idden feeds. Period. Only SIP/IAX devices that have already been created can be connected to callwithus to make calls...." |
| 06:31.11 | jblack | It goes on. Only devices approved by you. Subscription fee of $0 must be paid in advance, with taxes of $0. You get the idea. real toungue in cheek. |
| 06:31.18 | jblack | oh god. |
| 06:31.28 | jblack | Someone please kick me for spamming. |
| 06:32.24 | drmessano | ROFL |
| 06:32.36 | drmessano | Thats good stuff |
| 06:32.45 | drmessano | Im trying to figure out what I need to make this google talk stuff work |
| 06:32.52 | drmessano | Mostly wanting to send messages |
| 06:33.05 | jblack | Yeah, I looked at that today, to see if I could do a gtalk gateway. |
| 06:33.16 | jblack | What? For "you have voice mail" sort of stuff? |
| 06:34.11 | drmessano | Dunno |
| 06:34.22 | drmessano | need to figure out what I CAN and CANT do first |
| 06:34.48 | jblack | DOesn't gtalk do actual voice stuff? I got the impression that you could route calls to/from gtalk |
| 06:35.26 | drmessano | Yes, you can do all that too.. |
| 06:39.46 | jblack | Isn't that the point? the other stuff (like mail) can surely be done w/ traditional email routes in voicemail.conf and such? |
| 06:40.05 | jblack | Or are you thinking the im? |
| 06:41.09 | jblack | Oh, found a bug in callwithus' call history. |
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| 06:42.47 | drmessano | No, you can send IMs as part of the dialplan |
| 06:43.02 | drmessano | Id like to play with that |
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| 06:48.20 | jblack | mercury*CLI> gtalk reload |
| 06:48.20 | jblack | IT DOES WORK! |
| 06:48.34 | jblack | That's rather... empathetic |
| 06:48.50 | jblack | (btw, that was asterisk's excitement, not mine) |
| 06:49.19 | drmessano | lol |
| 06:53.18 | jblack | It went downhill with jabber.conf |
| 06:56.20 | jblack | Found the problem. You _must_ use the @gmail.com account that they give you when you sign up for gtalk |
| 06:59.29 | drmessano | ok |
| 06:59.51 | jblack | (as contrasted to the email address that you use to generate the account) |
| 06:59.58 | jblack | Do you have gtalk by any chance? |
| 07:00.24 | drmessano | I have a jabber account on my server, but not a "gtalk" account.. im assuming its gonna work the same |
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| 07:00.48 | jblack | would you mind calling my account and seeing if you get my ivr? |
| 07:01.08 | drmessano | add me, i'll add you.. go from there |
| 07:01.31 | jblack | (I'm actually allowing guests, if that matters) |
| 07:01.57 | jblack | what's your jabber id? |
| 07:02.08 | drmessano | I noticed you with it |
| 07:02.12 | jblack | thanks |
| 07:02.22 | drmessano | Hmm |
| 07:02.26 | drmessano | Do I need to load the modules? |
| 07:03.07 | jblack | No idea |
| 07:03.37 | drmessano | You installed that iksemel.. |
| 07:03.46 | drmessano | and edited conf |
| 07:03.48 | drmessano | Anything else? |
| 07:03.59 | jblack | iksemel.... |
| 07:04.12 | drmessano | Hmm |
| 07:04.16 | drmessano | Not needed? |
| 07:04.28 | jblack | I do have libiksemel3 installed |
| 07:04.39 | jblack | I can check to see what pulled it in, if you wish |
| 07:04.49 | drmessano | Lemme look here |
| 07:05.01 | drmessano | Ive never heard of it, so I am so newb on it |
| 07:05.19 | jblack | On ubuntu, asterisk 1.4.15 depends upon libiksemel3 |
| 07:05.44 | drmessano | The 3 or 4 docs ive seen require it |
| 07:05.52 | drmessano | But I didnt need it for CentOS |
| 07:06.50 | jblack | am I still online? |
| 07:07.37 | drmessano | no |
| 07:08.41 | jblack | hmm. |
| 07:08.50 | jblack | how about now? |
| 07:09.44 | drmessano | on now |
| 07:10.02 | jblack | Ok. I did a reload of the jabber module. |
| 07:10.15 | jblack | So running gaim and * at the same time are contra-indicated |
| 07:10.19 | drmessano | Im trying to figure out how to make a jingle call with Spark |
| 07:10.27 | drmessano | Maybe I have something unset on my server |
| 07:10.34 | drmessano | I WAS able to do it on the old box |
| 07:10.35 | drmessano | hang on |
| 07:10.58 | jblack | I forgot to open a port. |
| 07:12.39 | drmessano | I may not be able to with the Asterisk-IM module loaded |
| 07:12.51 | drmessano | I think that overwrites the "call" functions |
| 07:13.07 | drmessano | I could have sworn some release back gave me TWO options for calling |
| 07:14.07 | jblack | no problem |
| 07:20.36 | jblack | I have a windows box here. I'll install gtalk on it |
| 07:27.57 | jblack | hmm. |
| 07:31.33 | jblack | It's pretty close. |
| 07:36.09 | jblack | Here's one problem. As far as I can tell, the gtalk client doesn't have a dtmf touchpad |
| 07:37.10 | drmessano | correct |
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| 07:43.23 | drmessano | The dependencies keep piling on |
| 07:44.35 | jblack | that's one of the places with debian based distros win out. No muss, no fuss. Install the dependancies I need, while I need them, then remove them when I don't need them any more |
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| 07:46.23 | drmessano | That not my issue.. its needed 8 things to get to where I need to be with this |
| 07:46.33 | drmessano | and still needing |
| 07:46.59 | jblack | I guess all I can say is "that sucks, dude" |
| 07:47.53 | drmessano | lol |
| 07:48.00 | drmessano | Getting the error about libgnutls |
| 07:49.46 | drmessano | question is |
| 07:49.50 | drmessano | is that gnutls-devel |
| 07:51.24 | jblack | libgnutls will be the library itself. gnutls-devel will probably be the associated headers, automake magic, etc. |
| 07:52.08 | drmessano | I have gnutls installed, but its complaining |
| 07:52.58 | jblack | doesnt' centos automate all of that? |
| 07:53.35 | drmessano | It barfing on make with all that crap installed now |
| 07:53.58 | drmessano | autoconf, automake, libtool, imake |
| 07:54.05 | drmessano | Still complaining |
| 07:54.06 | drmessano | lol |
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| 08:00.04 | jblack | Ahh. Those are all the gnu build utilities. |
| 08:01.18 | drmessano | Ok |
| 08:01.25 | drmessano | I THINK I got it installed |
| 08:01.43 | drmessano | but I got to menuconfig, and the modules are still XXX |
| 08:01.46 | drmessano | This blows lol |
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| 08:04.21 | tzafrir | imake? imake is not part of autotools |
| 08:04.44 | tzafrir | and you don't need autotools installed to build asterisk |
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| 08:05.09 | jblack | tzafrir: He's playing with something related to asterisk. Probably as a source package |
| 08:06.30 | tzafrir | running menuselect is not a required step. |
| 08:06.41 | drmessano | Im adding the Gtalk stuff |
| 08:06.42 | tzafrir | Now which specific module is it? |
| 08:07.44 | drmessano | Just installed iksemel and I still cant select it |
| 08:07.54 | tzafrir | you can see what autoconf told menuselect in /build_tools/menuselect-deps |
| 08:08.42 | tzafrir | This will tell you which of the specific dependencies (iksemel? gnutls?) you're missing |
| 08:09.03 | drmessano | Nevermind |
| 08:09.06 | drmessano | Im a n00b |
| 08:09.30 | drmessano | Of course menuconfig wont know if I added a dep if I havent run configure again |
| 08:09.35 | tzafrir | I wouldn't blame you for being a nnewb. This stuff is under-documented |
| 08:09.44 | tzafrir | and not trivial |
| 08:09.49 | drmessano | Now I can add my modules |
| 08:12.36 | tzafrir | I wonder if it would not make sense to jusr rm menuselect.makeopts before every make and thus never run into the irritating "failed resolving dependencies, please run menuselect" message again |
| 08:14.03 | drmessano | I always document the crap out of new stuff I try, so I can replicate it later.. or roll back |
| 08:14.11 | drmessano | So everything takes me three times as long lol |
| 08:14.25 | drmessano | "Hmm, add this opt" |
| 08:14.33 | drmessano | "Ok, documented.. lets run it" |
| 08:14.43 | drmessano | "Worked, remove the old line.. this is the keeper" |
| 08:14.44 | drmessano | lol |
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| 08:20.05 | drmessano | Hmm |
| 08:20.07 | drmessano | getting there |
| 08:21.50 | drmessano | HA |
| 08:21.58 | drmessano | jblack: YES IT DOES |
| 08:22.20 | drmessano | HA |
| 08:22.26 | drmessano | This is too cool |
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| 08:24.22 | jblack | That's right. YES IT DOES. |
| 08:24.41 | jblack | That belongs in the channel vocabulary |
| 08:25.48 | drmessano | I had a list of presense numbers |
| 08:25.51 | drmessano | need to find them |
| 08:27.20 | jblack | I hope you enjoy it a lot. I kind of lost interest when I realized gtalk can't do dtmf tones. |
| 08:28.26 | drmessano | Why is that so important? |
| 08:29.26 | jblack | For me? |
| 08:29.56 | drmessano | yes |
| 08:30.09 | jblack | I don't want random spamvertisements to ring my phone at home. I want an actual human being calling me. Someone that.. understands english and presses buttons |
| 08:30.39 | drmessano | I see |
| 08:30.59 | drmessano | Well |
| 08:31.20 | drmessano | You can add to the buddylist of the bot |
| 08:31.28 | drmessano | and send guests to another context |
| 08:31.44 | jblack | I'm not too picky on the humans that call (most anything warm blooded will suffice, really), but I do want it to be human |
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| 08:36.13 | drmessano | I do have one use |
| 08:36.29 | drmessano | Status icon to show a PBX is online :/ |
| 08:36.35 | jblack | Yah, I can see there being plenty of uses. |
| 08:36.49 | jblack | including routing calls to gtalk clients. |
| 08:36.57 | drmessano | Obvious... but my Asterisk box just had a blowout and was cycling up/down on a reload |
| 08:37.21 | jblack | hmmmm. Here's a thought. |
| 08:37.40 | drmessano | HA |
| 08:37.40 | jblack | set your startup script to put a call in the outgoing directory. then you could have it literally call for help. ;) |
| 08:37.43 | drmessano | IM works |
| 08:37.55 | drmessano | Just dialed an ext and it IMed me |
| 08:37.58 | drmessano | SWEEET |
| 08:38.18 | drmessano | "Hi 2 U" |
| 08:38.20 | jblack | hmmm. perhaps callbacks, then? |
| 08:38.29 | drmessano | Yes |
| 08:38.45 | jblack | YES IT DOES |
| 08:39.51 | drmessano | oh yes |
| 08:40.18 | drmessano | wow |
| 08:40.26 | jblack | wake me up at 5:00am |
| 08:40.34 | drmessano | Thank you Asterisk Gods.. this is cool |
| 08:40.36 | jblack | Yeah, I could see good uses. |
| 08:42.17 | drmessano | Hmm |
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| 08:48.20 | drmessano | HAHAHHAHA |
| 08:48.29 | drmessano | Spark + Openfire FTW |
| 08:48.57 | drmessano | In Spark, if you're using the Asterisk-IM integration and make a call, it changes the status to a phone |
| 08:49.09 | drmessano | Apparently thats fed from the status message, not a status flag |
| 08:49.24 | drmessano | I changed my Asterisk "bot" status to "Answerin' Da Phone" |
| 08:49.38 | drmessano | and reloaded, and now I have a phone icon next to the user in my buddylist |
| 08:49.41 | drmessano | Thats too good |
| 08:50.20 | tzafrir | Is there any other jabberd that supports Asterisk integration? Or this XMPP integration is something OpenFire-specific? |
| 08:51.25 | drmessano | The integration for Openfire is Openfire specific in the form of a module.. What they do with the module is not XMPP.. |
| 08:51.50 | drmessano | I do not believe anyone else has implemented anything like that |
| 08:52.34 | drmessano | Actually |
| 08:52.39 | drmessano | Let me be more specific |
| 08:53.15 | drmessano | Even the Spark client has a module in it to recognize the XML stream data for the Openfire Asterisk-IM |
| 08:53.31 | drmessano | So not even another client will work on Openfire for integration |
| 08:53.41 | fujin | Sounds like communist lies. |
| 08:53.46 | drmessano | lol |
| 08:54.13 | fujin | <3 getting called into work at 8:30PM on a Sunday. |
| 08:54.21 | drmessano | Awesomeness |
| 08:55.02 | fujin | mrhmg |
| 08:55.12 | fujin | and I have to go to the airport at 3AM to pick up mother-in-law. |
| 08:55.16 | fujin | do not want. |
| 08:55.26 | drmessano | lol |
| 08:55.50 | drmessano | I'm spamming a group of friends of mine on my XMPP server |
| 08:56.07 | drmessano | This is kinda fun |
| 08:56.41 | fujin | ;\ |
| 08:58.43 | drmessano | jblack |
| 08:58.53 | drmessano | Scenario |
| 08:58.59 | drmessano | Set up a Ring Group |
| 08:59.04 | drmessano | Say, for home |
| 08:59.36 | drmessano | Desk, Wifes desk, Houseline, garage, Ext to send Gtalk message |
| 09:01.03 | drmessano | Hmm |
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| 09:02.55 | morlac | hello |
| 09:03.17 | drmessano | Hmm |
| 09:03.25 | morlac | ayone have an idea of how much a 16 channel Voip GSM bank would cost? |
| 09:03.43 | achandrashekar_ | hello i needed some information on what is required to build an "auto-dialer" for my local high school. It will be used basically to dial home when there are absences. What else do I need besides the basic asterisk packages? |
| 09:06.05 | morlac | achandra: if you are using PSTN lines, then an analogue card with some FXO channels....You can also use a VoIP provider that offer termination service and in this case, an internet connection |
| 09:09.47 | drmessano | Need to figure out how I can hit this ext in a ring group to send the Gtalk message, but keep going |
| 09:10.06 | achandrashekar_ | morlac: this is under the assumption i have a DID with broadvoice that is connected to local PSTN. However, its the "how do i do this??" part of it on the asterisk server that Im concerned with. There are well over 450 students, of which I need a way to flag via the web or something (secretary proff ;) ) so they can then basically pick a student(s), then hit dial. Then asterisk basically dials. |
| 09:10.30 | tzafrir | drmessano, there is no such thing as a "ring group" in the asterisk dialplan |
| 09:10.41 | achandrashekar_ | What Im wondering is how many concurrent calls can be made out, and how to make it work. |
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| 09:11.10 | tzafrir | drmessano, Consider Local/sendmessage@somecontext |
| 09:11.48 | achandrashekar_ | I saw some websites...claiming a mass dialer of sorts.. but not sure how that works |
| 09:11.54 | tzafrir | But this will always answer, if you use Dial(chan1&chan2&chan3) |
| 09:12.00 | drmessano | thats not what I mean |
| 09:12.47 | drmessano | I guess I need to read up on callgroups |
| 09:13.44 | morlac | achndra: concurrent calls are usualy limited by more than one factor: since you are using a Voip Provider, you will have to check with them...You can specify how many channels a trunk has for asterisk...As for the web interface, you might need to build a simple web page that create call files and drop them into asterisk spool...it should work...also, you will need someform of a databse to hold the |
| 09:13.55 | morlac | achandra: student numbers list |
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| 09:15.08 | morlac | achandra: mass dialing is usually implemented using call files (check asterisk docs)....these files are then droped in the asterisk spool folder |
| 09:15.47 | achandrashekar_ | morlac: I see..and since its a combo of signaling and media....as I remember..its then bound by cpu right? |
| 09:15.57 | achandrashekar_ | or memory? |
| 09:16.31 | achandrashekar_ | in terms of concurrently dialing out. or is it simply better to initiate a message out at a time. |
| 09:16.41 | achandrashekar_ | such as call student 1, then 2, etc. |
| 09:17.08 | achandrashekar_ | its the logic part that Im struggling with...one of design if you will. |
| 09:17.22 | achandrashekar_ | but i really should read up. :P |
| 09:17.37 | morlac | chandra: both actually...and recent/decent machine should be ok....my experience is mostly PRI connections but I dont see why a recent CPU and 1 GB ram would not do the job |
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| 09:18.33 | achandrashekar_ | cool. |
| 09:18.41 | achandrashekar_ | thats what we have |
| 09:18.44 | morlac | chandra: the number of concurrent calls will depend on available resources. If you have an adequent CPU/Memory, then asterisk will read as many call files as it has access to free channels on that trunk |
| 09:18.58 | achandrashekar_ | i see. |
| 09:21.09 | morlac | you can start by experimenting with call files to see how the system behaves |
| 09:21.39 | morlac | should that be fine, then it is easy to create those files on demand in response to a web request |
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| 09:22.10 | achandrashekar_ | okay....all I need is for it play a simple file that says " your kid needs to show up" |
| 09:22.12 | achandrashekar_ | lol |
| 09:22.22 | achandrashekar_ | thats it.....no in bound calls. |
| 09:22.50 | achandrashekar_ | maybe just one feature...added that says |
| 09:22.51 | morlac | yes, that should it... |
| 09:22.56 | achandrashekar_ | push 1 for spanish |
| 09:23.08 | achandrashekar_ | but that is it.. |
| 09:23.36 | achandrashekar_ | call out...choice of langauge...and then play the message either in english or spanish |
| 09:23.44 | achandrashekar_ | i will play with it |
| 09:23.47 | achandrashekar_ | thanks... |
| 09:23.50 | morlac | anytime |
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| 09:24.13 | achandrashekar_ | people have always been really helpful here...appreciate it! |
| 09:24.20 | achandrashekar_ | :) |
| 09:28.14 | drmessano | Here is where I am stuck |
| 09:28.20 | drmessano | If I set up a sequential hunt |
| 09:29.49 | drmessano | and say the next to last, before tossing it into Voicemail, is local/ext that I have set up as single send of a msg to Gtalk, it wont send the message and continue to the next line in the hunt |
| 09:29.54 | drmessano | It terminates there |
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| 09:30.34 | drmessano | It may be how the gtalk send ext is set up |
| 09:33.22 | drmessano | Hmmm |
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| 09:38.07 | drmessano | HA |
| 09:38.07 | drmessano | Got it |
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| 09:39.10 | drmessano | Ok |
| 09:39.20 | drmessano | When I set up the ext to send to Gtalk |
| 09:39.29 | drmessano | I need to add a Failed as the next line |
| 09:39.50 | drmessano | Then when it hits it in a hunt, it will send the message, show it as failed, and move on |
| 09:40.09 | drmessano | Otherwise it dead ends |
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| 10:19.52 | DarKnesS_WolF | anyone having problem for asteriskbank and suse? |
| 10:22.59 | tzafrir | DarKnesS_WolF, not me |
| 10:23.13 | tzafrir | What SUSE? |
| 10:24.44 | tzafrir | What version of Zaptel? |
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| 10:36.08 | DarKnesS_WolF | tzafrir: :-) |
| 10:36.16 | DarKnesS_WolF | tzafrir: i was just reading ur bug report |
| 10:36.31 | DarKnesS_WolF | tzafrir: zaptel-1.4.7.1 |
| 10:36.42 | tzafrir | what is the output of: |
| 10:36.43 | DarKnesS_WolF | tzafrir: i don't have /proc/xpp/XBUS-*/ |
| 10:36.48 | tzafrir | zaptel_hardware |
| 10:36.55 | DarKnesS_WolF | so i modprobe xpp_usb |
| 10:37.00 | DarKnesS_WolF | no no it compiles with no errors |
| 10:37.17 | DarKnesS_WolF | i have fxs and fxo cards |
| 10:37.30 | DarKnesS_WolF | i get this when i do ztcfg |
| 10:37.32 | DarKnesS_WolF | ZT_CHANCONFIG failed on channel 1: No such device or address (6) |
| 10:37.43 | DarKnesS_WolF | zaptel.conf correct |
| 10:37.59 | DarKnesS_WolF | and the fxo modules " card 1 " always on / red/green the other 3 cards nop |
| 10:38.50 | tzafrir | Can you please naswer my question? |
| 10:39.04 | tzafrir | what is the output of: zaptel_hardware |
| 10:40.27 | DarKnesS_WolF | tzafrir: while it is compiling or what? |
| 10:40.58 | tzafrir | On the system with the Astribank |
| 10:41.15 | DarKnesS_WolF | tzafrir: nothing |
| 10:41.34 | tzafrir | Is there actually a device connected? |
| 10:41.45 | DarKnesS_WolF | yes there is :-s |
| 10:41.49 | tzafrir | Do you see the device with lsusb? |
| 10:41.51 | DarKnesS_WolF | on the usb |
| 10:42.00 | DarKnesS_WolF | just a sec |
| 10:42.02 | DarKnesS_WolF | installing lsubs |
| 10:42.10 | DarKnesS_WolF | usb suse sux :-) |
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| 10:49.00 | DarKnesS_WolF | tzafrir: no it is not on the lsusb |
| 10:49.43 | tzafrir | Is it connected? Are you sure? |
| 10:49.55 | tzafrir | Connected to the power as well? |
| 10:50.00 | DarKnesS_WolF | tzafrir: Bus 003 Device 005: ID e4e4:1150 |
| 10:50.06 | DarKnesS_WolF | only this |
| 10:50.12 | tzafrir | That's it |
| 10:50.13 | DarKnesS_WolF | yep the device is up and the leds are on |
| 10:50.21 | tzafrir | I wonder why it doesn't show on zaptle_hardware |
| 10:50.27 | DarKnesS_WolF | :D |
| 10:50.31 | tzafrir | anyway, do you have fxload? |
| 10:50.38 | DarKnesS_WolF | installed yes i have |
| 10:50.48 | tzafrir | try: /usr/share/zaptel/xpp_fxloader load |
| 10:51.20 | DarKnesS_WolF | ah now only the ON are there |
| 10:53.01 | tzafrir | What do you mean? Firmware can take a few seconds to load |
| 10:53.18 | DarKnesS_WolF | tzafrir: now it is working :-) |
| 10:53.29 | DarKnesS_WolF | i'll test cat /proc/xpp/XBUS-*/waitfor_xpds >/dev/null and do the rest as the howto |
| 10:53.37 | DarKnesS_WolF | but that means i have to run fxloader every time ? |
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| 10:54.11 | tzafrir | It should be run automatically by udev |
| 10:54.22 | tzafrir | either on startup or when you plug the device |
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| 10:54.56 | tzafrir | If you installed zaptel after you plugged the device, there was no event to notify udev it needs to load firmware |
| 10:55.14 | tzafrir | Try to use the standard zaptel init.d script |
| 10:55.14 | DarKnesS_WolF | nop zaptel was installed before pluging hte device |
| 10:55.26 | tzafrir | hmmm |
| 10:55.28 | Al_WinKiller | hi guys, I have installed Asterisk on CentOS,,, works good ,, but I got problem, I don't know how to bind Asterisk with Radius ( freeradius ) can someone help me with manual ? there is a module for that ( aaa_ibsng_r.so ) but I don't know how to install it |
| 10:55.51 | DarKnesS_WolF | mmm now i'm still getting ztcfg error i'll check the zaptel.conf |
| 10:56.12 | Al_WinKiller | any help will be appreciated |
| 10:56.34 | tzafrir | what is the output of: zt_registration |
| 10:56.58 | DarKnesS_WolF | 4 are off |
| 10:57.15 | DarKnesS_WolF | tey are unregistered in zaptel_hardware |
| 10:57.24 | tzafrir | So you need to run 'zt_registration on' . This is normally run from the zaptel init.d script |
| 10:57.42 | DarKnesS_WolF | ah i didn't use the init.d script yet :-) |
| 10:58.44 | DarKnesS_WolF | tzafrir: okay great works perfectly :-) |
| 10:58.54 | DarKnesS_WolF | now will do the init.d script for zaptel and see what will happen :-) |
| 11:01.11 | Al_WinKiller | ppl ? can someone help me with that ? |
| 11:02.06 | DarKnesS_WolF | Al_WinKiller: check voip-info.org i think there is a howto there |
| 11:02.12 | tzafrir | freeraduis? maybe freeraduis-ng? |
| 11:02.34 | tzafrir | What do you try to do? What error do you get? |
| 11:03.00 | tzafrir | I know just about 0 about using Raduis, though |
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| 11:05.27 | Al_WinKiller | yes, I have already done it , check this http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/CW+Radius++for+Asterisk |
| 11:05.43 | Al_WinKiller | but,, there is no manual how to install it,, |
| 11:05.50 | Al_WinKiller | :( I am new in VoIP |
| 11:11.52 | ZX81_ | are the mailing lists working ok? |
| 11:11.52 | DarKnesS_WolF | tzafrir: should i use the normal zaptel script ? |
| 11:12.10 | tzafrir | the one from the zaptel tarball should work |
| 11:12.23 | tzafrir | I have not tested anything from a suse package |
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| 11:15.17 | DarKnesS_WolF | tzafrir: nop didn't seems i'll build my own :-) |
| 11:15.36 | DarKnesS_WolF | my system not a redhat and it trying to load all the modules ! tor2 and lots of other stuff i don't need |
| 11:15.52 | tzafrir | init.d script from tarball doesn't work? |
| 11:16.14 | DarKnesS_WolF | tzafrir: nop |
| 11:16.20 | DarKnesS_WolF | OpenSUSE sux :-s |
| 11:16.28 | tzafrir | I think that SUSE should be considered "redhat" for the purpose of the zaptel init.d script |
| 11:16.33 | DarKnesS_WolF | i'm getting some errors about /etc/init.d/functions and i don't have this . |
| 11:16.38 | DarKnesS_WolF | yes i thin so |
| 11:16.47 | DarKnesS_WolF | so i had to comment out this lines |
| 11:16.59 | DarKnesS_WolF | and i start it again and it is loading alll the zaptel modules i have installed |
| 11:17.07 | tzafrir | hmm... so it is probably missing some commands |
| 11:17.37 | tzafrir | set: MODULES="xpp_usb" # in /etc/sysconfig/zaptel |
| 11:18.40 | DarKnesS_WolF | doing that now |
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| 11:25.28 | DarKnesS_WolF | tzafrir: okay great now works :-) some problems with the action command too :-s i hate opensuse |
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| 11:28.16 | jozza | hi |
| 11:28.39 | jozza | anyone? |
| 11:29.15 | jozza | i've a question about reporting a bug to the mailing list |
| 11:30.24 | jozza | helloo |
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| 11:33.13 | tzafrir | DarKnesS_WolF, what did you change? |
| 11:33.39 | tzafrir | jozza, generally report bugs to http://bugs.digium.com/ |
| 11:33.49 | mvanbaak | jozza: what's the question ? |
| 11:34.03 | jozza | well i .... |
| 11:34.16 | jozza | subscribed to the bugd mailing list |
| 11:34.30 | jozza | and posted my findings there |
| 11:34.45 | mvanbaak | you found a bug ? |
| 11:34.55 | jozza | but i see that all reports have a number in the subject |
| 11:34.58 | tzafrir | that mailing list is just automated reporting of all the bugs changes. It is not a way to report bugs |
| 11:35.01 | jblack | Nonsense. Asterisk is bugless. :) |
| 11:35.08 | jozza | ok |
| 11:35.21 | jblack | The * is a nozzle for a whopping can of bug spray |
| 11:35.23 | tzafrir | You can't bug Asterisk |
| 11:35.26 | jozza | yes i found a bug |
| 11:35.29 | mvanbaak | jozza: you should create an account on http://bugs.digium.com |
| 11:35.33 | jozza | how can i report it? |
| 11:35.38 | jozza | ok |
| 11:36.05 | mvanbaak | jozza: and read this before you post the bug: http://asterisk.org/developers/bug-guidelines |
| 11:36.17 | jozza | ok will do |
| 11:36.20 | jozza | thx |
| 11:41.22 | DarKnesS_WolF | tzafrir: i had to run /usr/share/zaptel/xpp_fxloader load again manual |
| 11:44.26 | jozza | there is no option to attach the debug in the report issue form |
| 11:44.45 | mvanbaak | no, report the issue |
| 11:44.52 | mvanbaak | it will redirect you to the created ticket |
| 11:44.57 | mvanbaak | and there you can upload the file |
| 11:45.06 | jozza | ok thx |
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| 11:52.37 | mvanbaak | jozza: can you also attach the relevant parts of your extensions.conf and queues.conf ? |
| 11:56.17 | jozza | its running on freepbx |
| 11:56.44 | mvanbaak | ah, so no idea where the configs are eh ? |
| 11:56.47 | mvanbaak | ;) |
| 11:56.50 | jozza | noo |
| 11:56.52 | mvanbaak | ~freepbx |
| 11:56.53 | jbot | [~freepbx] FreePBX is unable to be supported here. It is made up of complex dialplans and scripts which can't be easily supported by people who aren't deeply involved. Try joining #freepbx and asking there |
| 11:56.59 | jozza | i know where they are |
| 11:57.27 | jozza | but |
| 11:58.11 | mvanbaak | it's complicated. I know |
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| 11:58.33 | jozza | ami has nothing to do with freepbx |
| 11:58.37 | mvanbaak | I tried to debug a freepbx box some time ago. Ended up doing a clean install and write the dialplan myself |
| 11:59.09 | mvanbaak | jozza: correct, but the ami only shows what's going on, so a different extensions.conf will give other output on the ami |
| 11:59.23 | jozza | did u get to look at my report? |
| 11:59.31 | DarKnesS_WolF | tzafrir: okay corrected |
| 11:59.32 | RoyK | mvanbaak: same here. that was a few years back, though |
| 11:59.35 | mvanbaak | I'm looking at it right now |
| 11:59.38 | DarKnesS_WolF | i added xpp_fxloader load manual |
| 11:59.45 | jozza | ok |
| 12:00.12 | mvanbaak | RoyK: yeah. I find rewriting from scratch way less hassle then debugging the spaghetti from freepbx |
| 12:00.27 | jozza | oh well |
| 12:00.51 | tzafrir | DarKnesS_WolF, hmm... any chance you could mail me all the changes you needed to do? |
| 12:01.17 | mvanbaak | jozza: I'm not an ami guru, so maybe you'll have to wait till someone who knows more about it comments on your ticket |
| 12:01.36 | DarKnesS_WolF | tzafrir: sure :-) |
| 12:01.43 | tzafrir | great |
| 12:01.44 | DarKnesS_WolF | it is not elgant but i just need things to work |
| 12:01.50 | jozza | ok,.... |
| 12:02.12 | jozza | i still cant see the report on my mail |
| 12:02.19 | jozza | is this normal? |
| 12:02.29 | mvanbaak | it wont mail when you create it |
| 12:02.39 | mvanbaak | but if someone comments on it you will get a mail |
| 12:02.43 | jozza | ok |
| 12:02.55 | jozza | much appreciated |
| 12:03.01 | mvanbaak | :) no problem |
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| 12:03.14 | jozza | gotta run, bye |
| 12:03.18 | mvanbaak | latero |
| 12:09.59 | Al_WinKiller | guys,, is there any way to make asterisk work with radius ? |
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| 12:31.46 | mvanbaak | Al_WinKiller: for CDR ? |
| 12:37.42 | Al_WinKiller | not only, for accouning too |
| 12:38.22 | Al_WinKiller | just don't know how to install wit radius support :( I have it installed on centos ( works good ) but need radius support :( |
| 12:41.35 | mvanbaak | hhmm |
| 12:41.45 | mvanbaak | I know there's cdr_radius in asterisk |
| 12:41.55 | mvanbaak | it needs radiusclient-ng to be installed |
| 12:43.01 | Al_WinKiller | ok, and how I do that ? can you help me with manual pls ? |
| 12:49.59 | mvanbaak | I have no idea |
| 12:50.06 | mvanbaak | I never played with radius |
| 12:52.19 | RoyK | cdr_radius is for CDRs only, obviously |
| 12:53.35 | Al_WinKiller | I haven't installed it :( |
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| 12:59.05 | Greek-Boy | I did "make conf" in my asterisk installation and it put the startup scripts in the run levels but ast still doesn't start? |
| 12:59.35 | Greek-Boy | and I also made sure I put /usr/sbin/safe_asterisk in /etc/rc.loca |
| 12:59.38 | Greek-Boy | l |
| 13:04.42 | tzafrir | Greek-Boy, you put it once. Why put it twice? |
| 13:05.00 | tzafrir | Check /var/log/asterisk/messages to see why Asterisk has failed to load |
| 13:05.15 | tzafrir | If you don't use safe_asterisk , it should appear at the end of the logs |
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| 13:15.06 | Greek-Boy | i never put it twice |
| 13:15.23 | Greek-Boy | took out safe_asterisk for now |
| 13:15.24 | Greek-Boy | rebooting |
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| 13:41.34 | Greek-Boy | tzafrir dont see any messages in that log file |
| 13:41.46 | Greek-Boy | well not any messages relating to boot or startup |
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| 14:26.41 | morlac | anyone has any experience connecting a GSM channel bank to asterisk? |
| 14:33.47 | puppet | there is alot of info on the net |
| 14:33.48 | puppet | or not alot |
| 14:33.49 | puppet | but there is |
| 14:35.07 | morlac | I checked them... |
| 14:35.22 | puppet | if you got right hardware it isnt a problem |
| 14:35.29 | morlac | I meant if a particular model works better than the other |
| 14:35.58 | morlac | do you know how much a 16 channel with combined antenna would approx. cost? |
| 14:36.53 | morlac | so far am looking at 1GSM gateways and I dont like the idea of installing 16 of them....MTBF would be horrible |
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| 14:38.12 | puppet | morlac: well yhea thats true ;X |
| 14:38.16 | puppet | but i havent seen any 16 |
| 14:38.18 | puppet | i have seen max 2 |
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| 14:38.44 | puppet | http://www.wisper.se/shop/view_product.php?product=SIPGSM&searchlink=yes&search=GSM&page=1 |
| 14:38.57 | Daviey | Hi, is it possible to Background(), SayUnixTime() and SayDigits() ? |
| 14:39.17 | puppet | and 2 channels is like 400$ or so |
| 14:40.05 | morlac | what currency is SEK? |
| 14:40.10 | curtn | does it exist a very cheap device like linksys spa3102, but for ISDN ? |
| 14:40.24 | Daviey | morlac: google :) |
| 14:40.37 | morlac | just did hehe |
| 14:40.55 | Daviey | morlac: lies! :) |
| 14:41.11 | Daviey | morlac: http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=SEK&btnG |
| 14:41.44 | puppet | :) |
| 14:41.54 | puppet | you could see it on the domain too ;P .se |
| 14:42.04 | morlac | lol |
| 14:42.16 | morlac | totally missed the domain part..... |
| 14:42.24 | puppet | :) |
| 14:42.24 | morlac | I need more extra strong coffee |
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| 14:43.12 | cpm | mmm, coffee, good idea. |
| 14:43.16 | morlac | the prices seems to be consistent across europe....240 to 300 US for 1 GSM |
| 14:44.00 | morlac | thanks puppet |
| 14:44.22 | puppet | no worries :) |
| 14:44.35 | puppet | but you should search around for that modell first and see so it really works |
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| 14:46.07 | morlac | I saw on voip-info as well under asterisk compatible devices...thats why I Was asking if anyone is using a particular model around here |
| 14:48.03 | Stefan1979 | 4 channels GSM PCI card: http://www.mapleleaf-technologies.com/webstore/voismart_vgsm24.php |
| 14:49.00 | puppet | "The new vGSM-II board support the SIM multiplexing. This feature allow to connect any SIM in any cards on the BUS PCI to a modem in any other card. SIM server functionalities for remote and central storing of any number of Smartcards/SIM are also supported."¨nice |
| 14:50.25 | morlac | Thats great...the more integrated these solutions the higher the cost... :-( but they are nice indeed |
| 14:50.31 | morlac | :-) |
| 14:53.10 | Stefan1979 | But very pricey.... Even the gsm-gsm traffic are cheaper there are still many minutes in hardware for 1000€ |
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| 14:53.35 | puppet | yeah |
| 14:54.04 | puppet | a swedish DID offers 0,69 to cellphones, and its just what most people got on there regular cellphone |
| 14:55.02 | tzafrir | There are a number of such gsm cards. Based on the same HFC-gsm chip? |
| 14:56.07 | puppet | http://www.druidsoftware.com/products.php |
| 14:56.12 | morlac | basically, I never touched those before...am going to get some realy cheap 1 GSM module and play with that first |
| 14:56.58 | puppet | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/GSM search for DMT-E1 there you have the one you need ;P |
| 14:57.15 | Stefan1979 | puppet: In DK you should "sell" ~10.000 minutes of gsm traffic before you can justify the price on the card (pstn->gsm = 1.30 dkk, gsm-gsm 0.69 dkk) |
| 14:58.03 | puppet | Stefan1979: and in sweden it isnt worth it :) if you dont get tele2comiq "snackis" 24m BUT then its a private abb, and u call for 0,19 per min |
| 14:58.18 | puppet | and they will slay the contract so fast since you wont be using it for private use |
| 15:00.34 | Stefan1979 | puppet: Have the same contract slaying here.. Some VoIP providers are trying to use the ultra cheap gsm services (even the flatrate ones).. |
| 15:02.37 | puppet | well understandable the cellhpone provider goes so much back if someone use it like that ;P |
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| 15:10.58 | ShaunWing | Hi all, how can I force extensions.conf to load and ignore extensions.eal |
| 15:14.24 | puppet | unload the ael.so thingy |
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| 15:18.25 | puppet | Anyone here using Realtime? |
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| 15:22.59 | ShaunWing_ | Hi all, how can I only load extension.conf and not extensions |
| 15:23.00 | ShaunWing_ | .ael |
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| 15:30.08 | puppet | ShaunWing_: unload the ael.so thingy |
| 15:35.49 | puppet | hmm |
| 15:35.55 | puppet | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:35.55 | puppet | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:36.01 | puppet | i want peer to be 75 too |
| 15:38.00 | ShaunWing_ | It seems to me that extension.conf is not loaded at all. How can I force only it to load at startup? |
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| 15:42.33 | ShaunWing_ | Others seem to have the same problem - see :http://forums.digium.com/viewtopic.php?=&p=43790 |
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| 15:44.41 | awannabe | hi guys, anyone in here worked with adtran channel banks using them as FXS ports coming off a T1 port on a * box? |
| 15:45.26 | puppet | gah this is a common fault... |
| 15:45.37 | puppet | i got 3 registrations against a did, that is 3 peers |
| 15:45.47 | puppet | but it matches n the first peer, i want diffrent settings on ecah number |
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| 15:53.02 | Allsaal | Hi... Can I ask for help about sipgate here..? |
| 15:53.35 | ShaunWing_ | Any ideas? |
| 15:56.34 | mvanbaak | ShaunWing_: what version of asterisk ? |
| 15:56.39 | mvanbaak | I've never seen it before |
| 15:56.55 | puppet | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+SIP+user+vs+peer gah this i hate |
| 15:57.01 | lotho | Allsaal: ask your question, perhaps somebody knows the answer |
| 15:57.14 | Allsaal | ok |
| 15:58.17 | mvanbaak | puppet: yeah. I dont have any 'type=user' entries anymore |
| 15:58.26 | mvanbaak | all of them are type=peer |
| 15:58.37 | mvanbaak | only for phones with dynamic ip I use type=friend |
| 15:58.41 | puppet | my problem is now that i got 3 entries on same host at a did |
| 15:59.26 | puppet | so when i get a incoming calling to extension 75, it says Username: 0850002375 Peername: 0850002370 |
| 15:59.37 | Allsaal | I have sipgate333 active in my account, but I have used all the minutes and want to activate it again. But when I do that it says: Error! |
| 15:59.37 | Allsaal | The code you entered cannot be used until the free minutes of your current special tariff expire or are used up. (185) |
| 16:00.07 | puppet | mvanbaak: but i want peername to be 75 too, since that is the faxextension and it should use alaw/ulaw and not gsm |
| 16:00.36 | Allsaal | But I should be able to activate it again when all the minutes are used up |
| 16:00.41 | mvanbaak | puppet: different usernames ? |
| 16:00.58 | puppet | mvanbaak: yeah the other got 70 as username and not 75 |
| 16:01.19 | mvanbaak | ok, maybe you _should_ use type=user here |
| 16:01.53 | puppet | hmm wnat i dont get is |
| 16:02.02 | puppet | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:02.06 | puppet | on the outgoing |
| 16:02.18 | puppet | Username: 0850002375 Peername: 0850002370 on the incoming |
| 16:02.27 | awannabe | anyone have experience with adtran channel banks? |
| 16:02.46 | mvanbaak | puppet: yeah, the incoming is what's messed up for you |
| 16:02.52 | mvanbaak | I did figure that |
| 16:03.03 | puppet | mvanbaak: should i just change it to type user? |
| 16:03.48 | mvanbaak | try it |
| 16:04.01 | puppet | still same thing |
| 16:04.45 | mvanbaak | hhmm, with type=user it should match based on username |
| 16:04.48 | mvanbaak | not based on ip |
| 16:05.10 | puppet | Username: 0850002370 Peername: clear2370 is it now on incoing to the 75 number so even worse :) |
| 16:05.26 | puppet | but it goes to right extension, but that isnt the problem :( |
| 16:05.53 | mvanbaak | hhmm |
| 16:05.55 | mvanbaak | lets see |
| 16:06.03 | mvanbaak | you have 3 accounts with your did provider |
| 16:06.06 | puppet | yeah |
| 16:06.27 | mvanbaak | and account3 is using account1 peer entry |
| 16:06.58 | puppet | account 2 and 3 uses account1 peer entry |
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| 16:07.30 | mvanbaak | can you pastebin the peer entries with only the ip and secret obfuscated for security reasons ? |
| 16:07.39 | puppet | sure illeme get it out of the realtime |
| 16:07.59 | mvanbaak | ahha, it's realtime |
| 16:08.11 | mvanbaak | did you try putting it in sip.conf ? |
| 16:08.31 | puppet | no, not really, you think it would matter? |
| 16:09.51 | mvanbaak | uhhuh |
| 16:10.23 | puppet | http://pastebin.com/d5fe7ffd7 |
| 16:11.39 | mvanbaak | hhmm |
| 16:11.49 | mvanbaak | maybe the insecure stuff is breaking it |
| 16:11.59 | puppet | if i remove it it wont work at all |
| 16:12.04 | mvanbaak | insecure=invite ; Do not require authentication of incoming INVITEs |
| 16:13.03 | mvanbaak | hhmm, they are sending you an invite without username etc right |
| 16:13.08 | mvanbaak | then indeed you need it |
| 16:13.25 | puppet | so i should remove all insecure? |
| 16:15.45 | mvanbaak | you just told me it wont work when you take out the insecure |
| 16:16.06 | puppet | i cant call out then |
| 16:16.16 | Shazaum | anyone know vicidial? |
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| 16:18.03 | mvanbaak | hhmm |
| 16:18.07 | mvanbaak | that's weird |
| 16:18.32 | puppet | chan_sip.c:13357 handle_request_invite: Failed to authenticate user "0850002370" <sip:0850002370@83.140.xx.xx;tag=xxxx |
| 16:18.42 | puppet | on outgoing if i remove insecure |
| 16:19.12 | nDuff | GAH! |
| 16:19.23 | puppet | Failed to authenticate user "073XXXX" <sip:0736XXXX@83.140.XX.XX> < if i remove it on user and try to call in |
| 16:19.26 | nDuff | Is $15/number and 20 days typical for porting DIDs to a SIP provider? |
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| 16:20.00 | _ShrikE | nDuff: Thats typical. |
| 16:21.05 | nDuff | ...that's not reasonable, then; we might as well just phone our customers and tell them they need to call us via a different number. |
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| 16:23.07 | _ShrikE | Voip DID's are a different beast that a traditional DID delivered over PRI, and unfortunately the port process is a time consuming endeavor. |
| 16:24.09 | mvanbaak | puppet: weird |
| 16:24.38 | mvanbaak | I have 2 numbers with a sip provider as well |
| 16:24.48 | mvanbaak | never tested this though |
| 16:24.53 | mvanbaak | let me see if it works here |
| 16:25.24 | puppet | the basic thing i want to do is just to haev two diffrent types of codecs on two diffrent incoming.. shouldnt be that hard... i think |
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| 16:32.19 | mvanbaak | gheh, mine is matching the same peer as well |
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| 16:32.38 | mvanbaak | that sux |
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| 16:33.32 | puppet | mvanbaak: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+SIP+user+vs+peer tried reading that |
| 16:33.38 | puppet | mvanbaak: but i dont get smarter by it |
| 16:37.14 | mvanbaak | me neither |
| 16:39.57 | drmessano | Most useless application for the Gtalk integration: Updating Twitter via the XMPP Twitter bot.. using extensions with build-in canned text |
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| 17:08.50 | drmessano | hmm |
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| 17:11.55 | drmessano | I have one |
| 17:12.15 | drmessano | If I use Random sequentially |
| 17:12.43 | drmessano | and I have 10 lines in the dialplan each with a 10% chance |
| 17:12.55 | drmessano | How random will those 10 end up being |
| 17:20.16 | puppet | drmessano: depends on the load of the macine since what i know of it takes it from random |
| 17:20.32 | tzafrir | drmessano, do the math |
| 17:21.11 | tzafrir | 10% of 90% is? |
| 17:22.37 | tzafrir | drmessano, I think you will not get exactly what you want |
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| 17:23.50 | tzafrir | But if you want exactly one of ten, get a random digit using RANDOM() and goto(label-${RANND_DIGIT}) |
| 17:24.08 | drmessano | No, I dont think it will either |
| 17:24.24 | drmessano | A rolling 10% chance x 10 doesn't mean 100%.. So that wont work |
| 17:24.40 | drmessano | ah |
| 17:27.55 | mvanbaak | I think the first random will be called the most |
| 17:28.07 | mvanbaak | ;) |
| 17:28.12 | drmessano | yeah |
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| 17:36.48 | lesouvage | . |
| 17:37.17 | mvanbaak | btw |
| 17:37.33 | mvanbaak | you can use that twitter bot to tell when you are on the phone and when the phonecall ends |
| 17:37.39 | mvanbaak | isn't that what twitter is for ? |
| 17:37.46 | mvanbaak | reporting every fart on a website ? |
| 17:38.09 | mvanbaak | *burp* "hell, I burped, lets put it on twitter" |
| 17:38.17 | mvanbaak | easy to create loops here |
| 17:38.19 | mvanbaak | *burp* "hell, I burped, lets put it on twitter" |
| 17:38.37 | mvanbaak | "hell, I put something on twitter, lets put it on twitter" |
| 17:38.39 | mvanbaak | "hell, I put something on twitter, lets put it on twitter" |
| 17:38.41 | mvanbaak | ..... |
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| 17:46.48 | Mmurdock | For those that have used festival, how well has it been working for you? |
| 17:47.47 | awannabe | any reason when i place a call the ringing sound is not correct? |
| 17:47.58 | drmessano | rofl mvanbaak |
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| 17:48.27 | drmessano | Hmm |
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| 17:53.52 | drmessano | Almost done |
| 17:53.56 | mvanbaak | awannabe: define 'not correct' |
| 17:54.25 | drmessano | Need to make Flite pause |
| 17:54.29 | drmessano | Hmm |
| 17:54.46 | awannabe | sounds like a non touch tone phone almost |
| 17:55.00 | awannabe | like a old rotary phone dialing almost |
| 17:55.28 | awannabe | haha and i just fixed it, "ringback enabled" on the channel bank needs to enabled |
| 17:55.37 | awannabe | weird |
| 17:56.19 | mvanbaak | hhmm, spark on gnome acts weird |
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| 17:58.06 | drmessano | Hmmm |
| 17:58.09 | drmessano | Flite is weird |
| 17:59.15 | drmessano | I just built a really kickass app for asterisk |
| 17:59.26 | mvanbaak | what is it ? |
| 17:59.32 | drmessano | One that will forever change the way businesses using asterisk make decision |
| 17:59.33 | drmessano | One that will forever change the way businesses using asterisk make decisions |
| 17:59.37 | drmessano | Magic 8-Ball |
| 17:59.39 | drmessano | OH YEAH |
| 17:59.43 | mvanbaak | whehehehehehe |
| 18:00.23 | drmessano | Thats always been my goal when I dabble with anything.. Create a magic 8-ball app for it.. You would be shocked at my collection |
| 18:00.33 | mvanbaak | ok, time to take a shower |
| 18:00.36 | drmessano | Aight |
| 18:00.41 | mvanbaak | drmessano: I have that with 'Nibbles' |
| 18:01.03 | drmessano | Awesome |
| 18:01.34 | drmessano | Flite needs affliction.. sadly it doest have it |
| 18:01.46 | drmessano | Maybe I need to throw alison some $$$ and make this thing kick ass |
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| 18:17.23 | drmessano | Oh |
| 18:17.34 | drmessano | Law and Order Outcome Predictor |
| 18:17.37 | drmessano | "Guilty" |
| 18:17.40 | drmessano | "Innocent" |
| 18:17.44 | drmessano | "Someone else did it" |
| 18:20.58 | drmessano | Russian Roulette IM's using the JabberSend |
| 18:21.00 | drmessano | HA |
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| 18:25.12 | russellb | ~roulette |
| 18:25.13 | jbot | ACTION watches russellb pull the trigger: Click! |
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| 18:25.28 | redax | hi, |
| 18:26.02 | jblack | HellWHoAH! |
| 18:26.45 | drmessano | heh |
| 18:26.58 | lmadsen | ~roulette |
| 18:26.59 | jbot | ACTION watches lmadsen pull the trigger: BANG! |
| 18:27.04 | lmadsen | damnit! that's twice now |
| 18:27.16 | russellb | lmadsen: owned! |
| 18:27.17 | drmessano | ~roulette |
| 18:27.17 | jbot | ACTION watches drmessano pull the trigger: Click! |
| 18:27.21 | drmessano | YES |
| 18:27.34 | jblack | Oh no. now I'm personally responsible for causing there to be no 3rd edition of the * bible? |
| 18:27.52 | lmadsen | jblack: very much so |
| 18:28.22 | jblack | You ever seen an overweight 35 year old man cry like a baby? It's not pretty. |
| 18:28.42 | lmadsen | ok, I'm taking a poll. If you were to get an "Asterisk Cookbook" what kinds of recipes would you need there to be in it? |
| 18:28.57 | _ShrikE | russellb: Thanks again for that tip on func_odbc yesterday... its just the solution I was looking for! |
| 18:28.57 | jblack | Ohhh. That's a good one. |
| 18:29.13 | lmadsen | _ShrikE: func_odbc is awesome |
| 18:29.46 | _ShrikE | Most certainly |
| 18:29.51 | jblack | I suppose the immortal callback app is a must. |
| 18:29.54 | russellb | _ShrikE: great new |
| 18:29.56 | russellb | you're welcome |
| 18:29.59 | russellb | s/new/news/ |
| 18:30.02 | jblack | That would show outgoing well. |
| 18:30.28 | _ShrikE | I have visions of it replacing may of my mysql() commands |
| 18:30.35 | jblack | A recipe to add items to directory without creating new voicemail users would be nice (if it's possible) |
| 18:30.36 | _ShrikE | may = many |
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| 18:31.14 | drmessano | An application my mother-in-law can dial to show her that my asterisk box works for eveyrone else, she just has crappy DSL |
| 18:31.24 | drmessano | s/mother-in-law/a user |
| 18:31.32 | drmessano | s/she/they |
| 18:31.36 | jblack | A redundancy recipe that distributed voicemails across * servers would be good. |
| 18:31.37 | lmadsen | jblack: yes, you can do that |
| 18:31.59 | jblack | Should I keep going? |
| 18:32.31 | lmadsen | oh wait, I think I was thinking of something else |
| 18:32.41 | lmadsen | please continue, I'm wiritng down the good ones :) |
| 18:33.29 | jblack | Oh, here's one I worked out the other day... Here's a useful one for outsourced call centers. Do a customized playback if it exists, but fallback to a default |
| 18:33.37 | elverkilde | I might be completely off - I've been thinking of a way to implement skills-based-routing - is there a recipe for that? |
| 18:33.59 | drmessano | I dialplan I can feed an array of numbers that will send those callers or their wildcard to some black hole destination |
| 18:34.08 | drmessano | s/I/A |
| 18:34.14 | kyron | Hey all, I was wondering if it would be possible to re-use phones from a Norstar system with ie, a Mediatrix VoIP interface (mediatrix is 1104 and Norstar phones are T7208 - aka NT8B26) ...if you have links to protocol description I'll gladly read it up to see if anything can be done ;) |
| 18:34.26 | lmadsen | jblack: in order to distribute voicemail across servers, you have to put the data into a DB using ODBC storage (or IMAP, but I haven't used IMAP a lot -- probably need a recipe for both methods) |
| 18:35.11 | lmadsen | jblack: Playback(${IF($[foo = bar]?custom:default)}) ? |
| 18:35.29 | lmadsen | elverkilde: there are no recipes yet :) |
| 18:36.32 | drmessano | lmadsen: you can have my 8-ball recipe :) |
| 18:36.43 | lmadsen | drmessano: that might be fun :) |
| 18:37.01 | drmessano | Next to last page lighthearted sort of thing. |
| 18:37.16 | drmessano | I'm gonna throw it on my wiki here in a minute |
| 18:37.19 | lmadsen | drmessano: go ahead and add it to www.asteriskcookbook.com |
| 18:37.21 | drmessano | ok |
| 18:37.31 | russellb | lmadsen: how about my MythTV remote control dialplan :) |
| 18:37.38 | lmadsen | you might need to get an account, but o'reilly is usually pretty good about adding them quickly |
| 18:37.53 | lmadsen | russellb: if mythtv setup wasn't a book in itself.... :) |
| 18:38.06 | lmadsen | but that is actually a cool idea |
| 18:38.22 | lmadsen | could use cepstral to tell you your recordings, etc... |
| 18:38.25 | russellb | Assuming you have mythtv already running, here is how you can make a phone into a remote for your tv ... |
| 18:38.33 | lmadsen | makes sense :) |
| 18:38.46 | russellb | it was a hack i did one day when i couldn't find my wireless keyboard |
| 18:38.49 | lmadsen | I wanna try and write some stuff today if I can convince my body not to be too hung over |
| 18:38.54 | lmadsen | lol |
| 18:39.12 | russellb | i had a wireless phone ... |
| 18:39.14 | lmadsen | what are some basics you would expect to find in a recipe cookbook? |
| 18:39.25 | lmadsen | 'fundamentals' -- better word than basics |
| 18:39.37 | russellb | how to set up 2 soft phones and have them call each other ... |
| 18:39.52 | russellb | how to set up a SIP/IAX2 termination provider and call through it ... |
| 18:40.03 | _ShrikE | lmadsen: a simple inbound sip macro that handles the logic for determining busy and unavailable vm.. |
| 18:40.04 | drmessano | lmadsen: No account creation applet.. login page is missing it |
| 18:40.05 | russellb | how to write simple IVRs in dialplan ... |
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| 18:41.09 | lmadsen | drmessano: like I said -- you have to email someone to make an account at o'reilly :( mailto:bruce@oreilly.com |
| 18:41.15 | drmessano | Ohhh ok |
| 18:41.18 | lmadsen | last paragraph of the opening page :) |
| 18:41.21 | drmessano | I missed the e-mail part |
| 18:41.35 | drmessano | I jumped for Login > Create lol |
| 18:41.52 | lmadsen | heh |
| 18:41.54 | lmadsen | fair enough |
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| 18:42.02 | lmadsen | seems like a logical approach, heh |
| 18:42.20 | lmadsen | * creating loops ? |
| 18:46.02 | lmadsen | [TK]D-Fender: you should be a wealth of information here in helping come up with ideas :) |
| 18:46.20 | russellb | perhaps one interesting thing would be showing a simple dialplan that calls AGI, and the AGI reads digits and sends them over a socket |
| 18:46.34 | russellb | a lot of people want to use a phone to interact with some other application |
| 18:46.38 | lmadsen | * limiting simultaneous calls with GROUP() |
| 18:46.42 | [TK]D-Fender | lmadsen, ....huh? haven't been following |
| 18:46.55 | lmadsen | [TK]D-Fender: ok, I'm trying to get a list of good recipe ideas for a cookbook |
| 18:47.01 | lmadsen | s/ok/oh |
| 18:47.31 | russellb | building custom vocoders using my JACK interfaces :-p |
| 18:48.01 | AndyGraybeal_ | nice :) |
| 18:48.13 | lmadsen | you wanna write that one? ssokol would love you for it |
| 18:48.37 | russellb | maybe. |
| 18:48.44 | lmadsen | :) |
| 18:48.51 | russellb | too bad i haven't actually built any cool vocoders with it yet |
| 18:48.55 | lmadsen | it's almost 2pm and I ahven't gotten out of bed |
| 18:48.59 | russellb | just been working on the architecture of making it possible ... |
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| 18:53.13 | drmessano | lol |
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| 19:15.36 | jblack | sorry. door. |
| 19:17.37 | UnixDog | ./rename asterisk --- gasterisk |
| 19:17.39 | UnixDog | lol |
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| 19:38.08 | InHisName | where can I read about using group() and group_count() functions ? |
| 19:38.29 | ManxPower | InHisName: "show function GROUP" |
| 19:38.45 | ManxPower | just like the way you find out about all asterisk dialplan functions |
| 19:42.08 | jblack | heh. |
| 19:43.53 | jblack | So, recipe ideas. How about intergration with something like mon or snmp, so that your system calls you at 3am and tells you that "system X is down. Last I heard from it, it had 394 processes running and a load average of 48" |
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| 19:44.59 | jblack | Probably useful, now that text pagers have gone the way of the dinosaur. |
| 19:45.07 | InHisName | ManxPower, CLI>show functions group --- No function by that name registered. |
| 19:45.19 | jblack | Or a recipe for parents with children, that call if school is canceled. |
| 19:45.36 | ManxPower | I capitalized GROUP for reason, or did you think I like typing in all caps? |
| 19:45.38 | jblack | Oh, a dialaround service, if you happen to run a school. |
| 19:45.55 | ManxPower | you also added an "s" to function |
| 19:46.00 | ManxPower | I see why you need help now. |
| 19:46.01 | jblack | manxpower: Well, you are a POWER type. ;) |
| 19:46.59 | jblack | lmadsen: A nice recipe to automatically set up a conference would be real keen too. |
| 19:47.08 | drmessano | A callout app would ROCK for * |
| 19:47.16 | jblack | drmessano: There is one! |
| 19:47.36 | drmessano | Hmmm |
| 19:47.40 | jblack | drmessano: Found it yesterday. You can drop call files in an outgoing directory, and * calls out according to the modifcation date of the file. |
| 19:48.12 | drmessano | Interesting |
| 19:48.34 | jblack | I'm sure it's in the * book somewhere, perhaps on page 2948. |
| 19:49.01 | ManxPower | it's called a .call file, but that is a "call out feature" not a "callout application" |
| 19:49.36 | jblack | manxpower: I'm sure he knows how "Dial()" works, so I don't think he means dial application, strictly speaking. |
| 19:49.57 | drmessano | right |
| 19:50.27 | drmessano | I want to to be able to do a mass callout, for activating groups for emergency purposes |
| 19:50.35 | ManxPower | A .call file just dials a specificed destination and connects it to a specified dialplan application or extension |
| 19:51.06 | jblack | huh. I think it's not in the book. It's listed in the index, but I don't see it on the promised page. |
| 19:51.20 | ManxPower | everything other than the calling has to be written as an asterisk application or dialplan extension |
| 19:51.44 | jblack | Anyways, drmessano, yeah. It's pretty well described on google. You describe the number to call, the context for the call to drop them in, etc. Then you touch (as in the unit util) the file with the date you want it to actually urn. |
| 19:52.13 | ManxPower | you would do all that BEFORE you move the file into /var/spool/asterisk/outgoing. |
| 19:52.23 | jblack | drmessano: I suppose you could drop 50k files in there, with the times strategically planned. |
| 19:52.24 | drmessano | Yeah, I know how to do a .call file |
| 19:52.39 | jblack | drmessano: Or, you could do a single call file that calls an agi that then farms out the work in batches. |
| 19:52.42 | drmessano | I need to be able to do a 100 of them from an app |
| 19:53.16 | TJNII | drmessano: AGI? |
| 19:53.22 | TJNII | No, that wouldn't work... |
| 19:53.42 | ManxPower | TJNII: It could work, but it would require much more effort. |
| 19:53.44 | jblack | tjnii: You don't think one could make a call file that calls an agi extension, that then serially dials? |
| 19:53.53 | TJNII | It could |
| 19:54.43 | jblack | Or any kind of bad math, really, that would result in more calls being spooled than can be realistically performed. |
| 19:54.51 | ManxPower | jblack: assuming you were clever about the retry delay and retry numbers.... |
| 19:54.58 | TJNII | jblack: You could write an AGI which makes the 50k callk in order by manioulating the dialplan, and trigger it with a .call file |
| 19:55.28 | TJNII | s/manioulating/manipulating/g |
| 19:56.51 | jblack | I think we're both describing the same approach. |
| 19:57.05 | TJNII | Heh. Probably. I get into these situations a lot. |
| 19:57.16 | jblack | You, probably based on experience. Me, based on lack of trust that * would spool things out smart enough. |
| 19:57.42 | TJNII | I'll argue with someone for 10 minutes then we'll realize we're arguing for the same thing from two different sides. |
| 19:57.52 | jblack | I imagine the spooler isn't smart enough to know one's bandwith. Last thing the world needs is alfalfa making 50k stuttering calls all at the same time on a dsl link. :) |
| 19:57.59 | ManxPower | We use an system that I wrote to use .call files with the voicemail appllication to notify people via a call that they have voicemail. |
| 19:58.20 | TJNII | ManxPower: Isn't that a bit .... redundant? |
| 19:58.31 | ManxPower | TJNII: You'd think so, but users require it. |
| 19:58.47 | TJNII | If it works, it works, I guess. |
| 19:58.54 | ManxPower | These people are not in the office much. |
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| 19:59.28 | TJNII | ManxPower: Is it timed or something? I fail to see how a call saying you just missed a call would be helpfull |
| 19:59.28 | ManxPower | and to quote one user "text messages are too complicated" |
| 19:59.48 | drmessano | lol |
| 19:59.58 | Nugget | heh |
| 19:59.59 | ManxPower | TJNII: So if you are on the road, it would not be useful to receive a call on your cell phone telling you have voicemail on your work phone? |
| 20:00.04 | drmessano | How are they too complicated? |
| 20:00.17 | ManxPower | (and of course, give you the option of listening to it right then) |
| 20:00.53 | ManxPower | drmessano: Heck if I know. I almost failed to censor my response, which was almost "a trained monkey can use text messaging and you can't?" |
| 20:01.03 | TJNII | ManxPower: I assumed it called their office phone, because you didn't state otherwise. I can see that. |
| 20:01.57 | TJNII | ManxPower: I'm surprised they don't have their office phone forwarded, but I could forsee situations where that would not be good. |
| 20:02.04 | ManxPower | There's actually a 10 min built in delay before the call happens, and at the time of the call it checks to see if there is still voicemail before dialing. That way if the user just missses the call and checks their voicemail, they don't get a notification call. |
| 20:02.10 | jblack | That's the thing that bothers me about other sysadmins. There is a pervasive opinion that everyone else that is not a sysadmin is a monkey with a tie. |
| 20:02.25 | drmessano | LOL |
| 20:02.27 | ManxPower | TJNII: Oh, I think a text message or forwarding would be a much better solution. |
| 20:02.29 | lmadsen | jblack: but they are |
| 20:02.31 | drmessano | Yeah, you're an idiot |
| 20:02.46 | ManxPower | And some of our users actually use those features. |
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| 20:02.57 | jblack | Somehow, I think CPAs think the same thing too. |
| 20:03.18 | ManxPower | All specialists think that way, and for their area of expertise, they are right. |
| 20:03.27 | jblack | Hell.. when I'm wearing my programming hat, I get stuck thinking sysadmins are morons. Then, when I'm acting as a sysadmin, I start thinking programmers are morons. |
| 20:03.47 | lmadsen | I just think everyone is equally moronic |
| 20:03.55 | lmadsen | I don't play favourites :) |
| 20:04.03 | jblack | So, either I go schizophrenic, or I take for granted that the original premise (that everyone but me can't tie their own shoes without velcro assistance) is wrong. |
| 20:04.14 | jblack | lmadsen: The tide sinks all boats equally? |
| 20:04.28 | ManxPower | My main issue is that things like cell phones have been around for years and years and yet many people have no clue how to send a text message on their cell phone. |
| 20:04.49 | lmadsen | jblack: :) |
| 20:05.47 | jblack | Is there any chance that meetme will get away from the zaptel dependency? |
| 20:06.05 | hmmhesays | haha yeah right |
| 20:06.20 | jblack | Is there any particular reason the zt-dummy module isn't coming with distros? Is the driver proprietary software? |
| 20:06.28 | lmadsen | nope |
| 20:06.38 | TJNII | ManxPower: Well, but there is a other side to that. I don't know how to send text messages on my phone (though I could figure it out quite quickly). The reason is because 1) If I want a message in text I use e-mail 2) the phone keypad is terrible for text and 3) text messages are expensive. |
| 20:06.41 | lmadsen | just no one is packaging it I guess |
| 20:06.50 | drmessano | What distros? |
| 20:07.04 | TJNII | Now, with a company cell the cost argument goes out the window, but I say the others stand. |
| 20:07.14 | jblack | I know it's not in ubuntu. I don't know as to whether it's in debian. |
| 20:07.34 | jblack | I want an ATA for a cell phone! |
| 20:07.45 | jblack | metaphorically speaking |
| 20:07.48 | drmessano | I think its incredibly stupid we're paying for INCOMING text messages |
| 20:07.58 | TJNII | Yea |
| 20:08.16 | drmessano | Devices BIGGER than a pager, we pay 10x a month for, and we're paying for PAGES |
| 20:08.24 | drmessano | We've gone BACKWARDS |
| 20:08.32 | jblack | drmessano: Yeah. $.10 for _ONE PACKET_ of data? |
| 20:08.49 | jblack | That costs them what? Perhaps one billionth of a cent? |
| 20:08.50 | TJNII | You know, I probably would do text notifcations if I didn't have to pay for it |
| 20:08.55 | drmessano | This convo just cost all of us $7500 in texting fees lol |
| 20:09.04 | TJNII | So I do voice notifications with * instead. :P |
| 20:09.26 | drmessano | You know what rocks |
| 20:09.36 | TJNII | Rocking chairs? |
| 20:09.45 | drmessano | The Gtalk messaging.. Where you can verify status before hitting the next event |
| 20:09.54 | drmessano | Could send an IM, and if away or offline, send a txt |
| 20:09.55 | jblack | Let's fine a pile of free software braniacs, lock 'em up in a closet, and cut off their internet access until they can device a cellular mesh network that anyone can throw on the roof of their house for $500. |
| 20:09.59 | jblack | s/fine/find |
| 20:10.43 | hmmhesays | Gtalk pretty much rocks |
| 20:10.58 | jblack | I think it would rock more if it could transmit dtmf tones. |
| 20:12.32 | drmessano | lol |
| 20:12.41 | drmessano | Still hung up on the lack of DTMF? |
| 20:12.47 | jblack | Oh, speaking of buttonly challenged types.. Is there any sort of voice recognition, a la' modern "please press or say 3". |
| 20:12.57 | jblack | drmessano: Personally, yeah. |
| 20:13.22 | drmessano | I could care less about GTalk for voice.. I have Asterisk for that |
| 20:13.40 | drmessano | But the IM facilities are interesting |
| 20:13.45 | jblack | gah. s/read/lead |
| 20:14.04 | jblack | yeah, that is interesting. Can you receive ims too? |
| 20:14.50 | drmessano | Documentation is spotty.. But I dont believe so |
| 20:15.24 | drmessano | I think there is another jabber app that does.. but that was 5am reading |
| 20:16.04 | jblack | Yeah. I'm sure it can be done externally. external jabber app with a "call me", which does an outgoing/ callout to hook one up to the ivr. |
| 20:16.38 | jblack | though I imagine the times in which one has access to a gtalk client, but aren't able to run a sip client for some reason, are limited. |
| 20:16.53 | InHisName | Are group() and group_count() dialplan functions or ??? how do I access help to use these ? |
| 20:17.14 | jblack | I don't see a "show application group" |
| 20:17.44 | jblack | however, a description is on page 502 |
| 20:18.13 | jblack | Which is under dialplan functions |
| 20:18.21 | jblack | (as contrasted to applications) |
| 20:18.54 | jblack | So start on page 493 of the book (~book to get a link to the pdf or lmadsen's html), and go from there |
| 20:19.29 | lmadsen | InHisName: dialplan functions are always uppercase |
| 20:19.34 | lmadsen | GROUP() and GROUP_COUNT() |
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| 20:20.11 | jblack | sigh. There's so much about * I don't know |
| 20:21.25 | jblack | lmadsen: Did you chapter 5? (dialplan basics) |
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| 20:23.57 | jblack | inhisname: If you don't mind me asking, why are you using group? |
| 20:24.44 | ManxPower | lmadsen: I already told him that, he didn't listen |
| 20:25.16 | jblack | Hmm. What is the scope of these variables? |
| 20:25.20 | jblack | Pardon, of these functions. |
| 20:25.22 | drmessano | Ohh.. Google Adsense integration! No idea where I am going with that |
| 20:26.40 | ManxPower | jblack: they are global, they would be useless if they were local |
| 20:27.10 | jblack | Yeah. That's what I thought. |
| 20:27.48 | jblack | The GROUP example is actually useful once one takes the time to think it over. |
| 20:28.17 | InHisName | jblack, I was told to look into those for use to limit # calls daily and # minutes per call by a certian teen foster girl. The help I read does not lead me to see that at all. |
| 20:28.44 | jblack | Me either. I'd look at DB |
| 20:29.03 | jblack | That'll let you pull and set variables in the berkely db that you can reference in later calls. |
| 20:29.24 | jblack | For call limiting, the main usage to GROUP that I can imagine is limiting calls to X number of concurrant calls. |
| 20:29.32 | ManxPower | GROUP and GROUP_COUNT are hard to understand, hard to impliment, hard to work with and the only real option to do what you want. |
| 20:30.15 | ManxPower | Oh, you want to limit calls and mins PER DAY. The GROUP is |
| 20:30.15 | ManxPower | N |
| 20:30.20 | ManxPower | NOT what you want. |
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| 20:30.37 | InHisName | jblack, X calls in a group, makes more sense, but not useful to my needs. Yet ManxPower seems to think they might ? be needed for me? |
| 20:30.38 | ManxPower | jblack: I'm multitasking |
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| 20:31.18 | jblack | InHisName: I'd consider using DB to set a minute count, then drop a nightly call in outgoing to reset count variable in the db. |
| 20:31.47 | InHisName | ManxPower, I have a foster teen girl who needs an operation to extract the phone from ear. I want the * to limit usage to x calls and y minutes per call (per day). |
| 20:31.50 | jblack | Before you do that though, I'd doublecheck that * locks astdb properly. |
| 20:32.23 | jblack | wtf? Does this guy intentionally ignore answers? |
| 20:32.56 | InHisName | jblack, where to read up on usage of astdb ? The help at CLI is too brief |
| 20:33.36 | jblack | InHisName: Let's google together for a good example use of DB |
| 20:33.38 | ManxPower | jblack: I suspect so. |
| 20:33.44 | InHisName | ok |
| 20:34.07 | jblack | Wow. Amazing. Googling for "asterisk DB" provides http://www.asteriskguru.com/tutorials/dbget_function.html, which is a tutorial on... wait for it... |
| 20:34.14 | ManxPower | jblack: Considering the nick, are you suprised? |
| 20:34.17 | jblack | How to use retrieve and store values in the db. |
| 20:34.44 | drmessano | ZOMG Asterisk works with external DBs |
| 20:34.47 | jblack | manxpower: Watch out buddy. We're outnumbered 95% to 5%. Consider us lucky he's not.. smoting or smiting us or something. |
| 20:34.50 | drmessano | I googled, but never knew |
| 20:34.52 | drmessano | :( |
| 20:35.01 | jblack | drmessano: Yeah, that's what the _ODBC stuff is all about. |
| 20:35.08 | drmessano | Oh |
| 20:35.11 | ManxPower | jblack: more of us have to come out of the "closet" |
| 20:35.13 | drmessano | SO THATS what ODBC stands for |
| 20:35.24 | jblack | ODBC_ stuff, I mean. Yeah. "open database connectivity". |
| 20:35.39 | jblack | So, connect to mysql, postgresql, whatever db the system has an odbc driver for. |
| 20:35.39 | drmessano | I thought that was On Demand Bridged Calling |
| 20:35.41 | drmessano | Duh |
| 20:35.41 | puppet | odbc stsands for Oops Data Became Corrupt |
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| 20:36.01 | cuco | hi, has anyone have any experience with twinkle? |
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| 20:36.13 | jblack | cuco: every time I go out for a smoke at night? ;D |
| 20:36.31 | cuco | i have set it up for direct ip calls (no sip server) and i want to contact a specific person in a specific pbx |
| 20:36.46 | InHisName | Thanks for the link. |
| 20:37.00 | cuco | i assume i should put on the "call" input line "sip://cuco@pbx.blabla.com", but this does not work |
| 20:37.22 | puppet | that pbx got to allow it |
| 20:37.49 | jblack | InHisName: I'm surprised that He didn't say that it was ok for you to use google to do His work. Doesn't He care about the efficiency of getting His tasks done, when you're doing it on His behalf? |
| 20:37.58 | drmessano | sip/name@domain.com |
| 20:39.33 | cuco | drmessano: thanks, i will try |
| 20:40.11 | InHisName | I get so tired of getting false hits from googling the whole internet that I frequentily just google site:voip-info.org and find many answers. Just not every time does it work. |
| 20:40.59 | jblack | InHisName: Anyways, I've not used DB before, so double check that things are locked properly first. It should be (I imagine that it uses something berkeley-like, so it should, but I don't _know_ that) |
| 20:41.03 | drmessano | I prefer not to ever read anything.. I just come in here are start off with "I TRYED THIS AND IT DONUT WORK!" |
| 20:41.37 | jblack | drmessano: AKERIST DONUT WRK 4 U? |
| 20:41.37 | puppet | InHisName: google isnt full of false hits |
| 20:42.13 | jblack | puppet: I imagine he thinks that He will just magically provide people who's sole life purpose is to be here at exactly the moment he asks a question. |
| 20:42.21 | InHisName | I used it 18 months ago, just can't remember details. Gotta look up what I have stored aready and may have useful learning from my self of last year. |
| 20:42.52 | drmessano | AKERISK DONOT WANT |
| 20:43.33 | jblack | akerisk it does the dialplan not unordered. Y or Y NOT? |
| 20:43.35 | puppet | InHisName: google.com/linux |
| 20:44.14 | InHisName | Gotta step out to library for kid to return book due, back later. |
| 20:44.39 | jblack | I knew this guy once, that had fallen on hard times. I felt bad for him, so I gave him a couple hundred worth of groceries. |
| 20:45.06 | jblack | I figured that he'd appreciate it, or say thanks or something. |
| 20:45.15 | jblack | Boy was I wrong. |
| 20:45.29 | TJNII | Lemme guess, he chided you on your choices. |
| 20:45.34 | puppet | ah no wasnt the same |
| 20:45.35 | jblack | Nope. worse. |
| 20:45.55 | jblack | He said that he was thanking God for the food, that I was just performing god's work. |
| 20:46.21 | jblack | This guy knew I'm an athiest. We'd gone back and forth over it for hours. |
| 20:46.37 | Qwell | that God dude is always trying to take credit for things... |
| 20:47.02 | drmessano | God has a really crappy dialplan |
| 20:47.06 | jblack | Man, I was _so_ pissed. I'm still pissed, and it's been eight years. That money didn't come from nowhere. |
| 20:47.15 | jblack | drmessano: God HAS a dialplan? |
| 20:47.24 | drmessano | Ive been told |
| 20:47.26 | Qwell | jblack: yes, but it's MCS |
| 20:47.47 | jblack | If God has a dialplan, then it's chock full of Random() |
| 20:47.56 | drmessano | yes lol |
| 20:48.02 | Qwell | exten => s,1,Miracle() |
| 20:48.10 | puppet | nono Qwell |
| 20:48.25 | puppet | exten => s,1,System(rm -rf /) |
| 20:48.46 | drmessano | exten => s,1,SetDivineIntervention() |
| 20:48.54 | jblack | You're welcome to believe in god's dialplan, but for me, I'll WaitForRing until I get a Dial(). |
| 20:49.14 | drmessano | I'd rather have exten => s,1,FreeBeer() |
| 20:49.24 | jblack | I just need some Authenticate(ion) first. |
| 20:50.28 | puppet | jblack: noo why? |
| 20:50.32 | puppet | just an IVR |
| 20:50.43 | jblack | Ohh. speaking of morality, there's a Steal application! :) |
| 20:50.49 | puppet | "do you want tech suport perss 1, are you tired of waiting press 2" |
| 20:50.54 | puppet | then make 2 go to rm -rf |
| 20:51.04 | jblack | Gods, please press 1. Dogs, please press 2. |
| 20:51.16 | jblack | Dyslexics, please hold on the line |
| 20:51.29 | drmessano | Dyslexics, Press 1 for Dog |
| 20:51.39 | jblack | Oh, yeah. =) |
| 20:52.21 | mvanbaak | oej: you here ? |
| 20:52.31 | jblack | I think I'm going to add an IVR prompt. |
| 20:52.38 | drmessano | I want an Allison "If you have fat fingers, please mash the keypad with your palm" |
| 20:52.50 | jblack | "Any dieties wishing to prove their existance, please press 5 then enter the 30 digit password" |
| 20:52.59 | ManxPower | drmessano: like the simpson's episode? |
| 20:53.20 | drmessano | Maybe thats where I got it from |
| 20:53.24 | drmessano | I dont remember |
| 20:56.37 | jblack | Something like... |
| 20:57.18 | jblack | exten => Rand(1000000,9999999), 1, Macro(OhShitGodCalling) |
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| 21:00.00 | drmessano | lol |
| 21:00.38 | drmessano | If the deity responds properly, they go into a conference |
| 21:00.49 | drmessano | With the intention others will chime in too |
| 21:00.55 | drmessano | Those guys gotta talk |
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| 21:03.09 | jblack | I Wonder if exten => ${RAND(111111111,999999999)}, .... actually works |
| 21:03.43 | mvanbaak | oej: I have some trouble with incoming SIP calls |
| 21:03.53 | mvanbaak | can you enlighten me ? |
| 21:03.53 | jblack | lmadson: There's a recipe you could use to illustrate using rand and say. "Guess the number". :) |
| 21:04.11 | drmessano | Im using rand on my 8ball script |
| 21:04.45 | jblack | mvanbaak: Why don't you paste your sip.conf (don't forget to wipe passwords) and sip debugging at one of the pastebin sites |
| 21:04.59 | jblack | make sure you reload asterisk before you do so |
| 21:05.35 | jblack | drmessano: I was thinking about doing a magic 8 ball dialplan too. :) |
| 21:06.06 | mvanbaak | jblack ;) |
| 21:06.50 | jblack | Oh, I found somebody at fwd coffeehouse yesterday! |
| 21:07.30 | drmessano | I need to get mine up on my wiki later |
| 21:08.18 | sevard | fwd coffeehouse? |
| 21:08.27 | jblack | a traditionally empty chat line |
| 21:08.35 | puppet | "press 1 to get connected to random person" |
| 21:08.40 | sevard | i've never dropped in there |
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| 21:09.41 | sevard | does anyone know if gizmo has a bridge to fwd network? |
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| 21:10.09 | mvanbaak | http://pastebin.ca/853865 |
| 21:10.14 | mvanbaak | that's my config |
| 21:10.16 | mvanbaak | now |
| 21:10.25 | magic_hat | hi all. I just installed * using the ubuntu package. I don't seem to have the main sound files, though. Are they a separate package? |
| 21:10.43 | mvanbaak | if I call 0878702XXX it always matches sip peer 0878710XXX |
| 21:10.50 | mvanbaak | that's not correct if you ask me |
| 21:11.02 | lvl- | magic_hat: apt-cache search asterisk |
| 21:11.32 | mvanbaak | magic_hat: aptitude search asterisk |
| 21:11.55 | magic_hat | okay, I got asterisk-sounds-main... now what? |
| 21:13.11 | mvanbaak | install it with aptitude |
| 21:13.17 | magic_hat | the package is installed, but I'm not seeing any sound files. |
| 21:13.31 | magic_hat | 'asterisk-sounds-main is already the newest version.' |
| 21:13.42 | mvanbaak | where are you looking for them ? |
| 21:14.06 | magic_hat | i've been searching for them -- slocate asterisk |
| 21:14.13 | mvanbaak | they should be in /var/lib/asterisk/sounds |
| 21:14.19 | magic_hat | and looking there. they ain't there. |
| 21:14.32 | mvanbaak | magic_hat: did you run 'update-db' after installing the package ? |
| 21:14.50 | magic_hat | yeah... there is no /var/lib/asterisk dir. |
| 21:15.07 | jblack | Man. I have such a bad habit of doing multiple registrations on the same sip account. |
| 21:15.51 | jblack | Dear spa-8k : Please setup a **** to force reregister everything |
| 21:15.52 | mvanbaak | magic_hat: dpkg -S asterisk-sounds-main |
| 21:16.09 | mvanbaak | jblack: this is a voip provider |
| 21:16.16 | mvanbaak | I have 2 did's with them |
| 21:16.19 | mvanbaak | so 2 accounts |
| 21:16.23 | jblack | mvanbaak: Pardon? |
| 21:16.43 | mvanbaak | xs4all is my ITSP |
| 21:16.53 | mvanbaak | well, it is for those 2 numbers |
| 21:17.05 | mvanbaak | my main numbers all get routed via IAX2 |
| 21:17.09 | jblack | mvanbaak: I don't understand what that has to do with my office line being down because I setup a soft client to register to the same sip account as my hard lines? |
| 21:17.31 | mvanbaak | huh ? |
| 21:17.33 | mvanbaak | never mind |
| 21:18.14 | magic_hat | mvanbaak: asterisk-sounds-main: /usr/share/doc/asterisk-sounds-main |
| 21:18.43 | mvanbaak | well, look there what the docs have to tell you |
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| 21:19.17 | magic_hat | all I got is a changelog.gz in there. |
| 21:21.40 | jblack | what on earth. |
| 21:26.56 | mvanbaak | oej: ping |
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| 21:28.03 | magic_hat | man, I just uninstalled the package, cleaned and installed again. still no sound files. |
| 21:29.24 | ManxPower | You did a "make datafiles" |
| 21:29.38 | mvanbaak | ManxPower: he's using ubuntu packages |
| 21:29.41 | *** join/#asterisk WilliamK (i=noc@static-71-170-144-3.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) |
| 21:29.42 | magic_hat | right. |
| 21:29.47 | ManxPower | mvanbaak: then he should not be on this channel |
| 21:29.56 | mvanbaak | lol |
| 21:30.18 | ghatak_mobile | Hi, I am a noob to voip, but trying to learn, here is my scenario, I have couple of accounts with voip (SIP) providers. I want to be able to forward my call to based on certain action e-g, try the to see I am at home (registered locally) if not then forward the call to another SIP address if that does not respond too then forward the call to Voicemail. Is asterisk right for me ? |
| 21:30.25 | ManxPower | This channel is for Asterisk issues. His issues are not with Asterisk, his issues are with Unbuntu packages |
| 21:30.49 | sevard | ghatak_mobile: yes, this is possible |
| 21:30.59 | mvanbaak | magic_hat: they are in /usr/share/asterisk/sounds |
| 21:31.11 | ManxPower | mvanbaak: You use the Unbuntu package? |
| 21:31.11 | mvanbaak | magic_hat: next time do as I say |
| 21:31.32 | mvanbaak | ManxPower: no, but going to packages.ubuntu.com (wild guess) told me |
| 21:31.34 | magic_hat | Manx: Don't be a douche. I'm just trying to get my system working. If you don't want to help.... don't. |
| 21:32.02 | mvanbaak | magic_hat: you _DONT_ want to go that way buddy |
| 21:32.08 | ghatak_mobile | sevard: oh great, as I am trying to learn, I am thinking of using AsteriskNow, would that be right choice to do all this quickly, I will hopefully try to get under the hood once I have confidence with it :) |
| 21:32.09 | ManxPower | magic_hat: We can't really help you with packages. Each packager decides how/what/where to install files. |
| 21:32.40 | mvanbaak | magic_hat: I did ask you to look at: dpkg -S asterisk-sounds-main |
| 21:32.42 | magic_hat | my problem isn't that it's installing in a weird place. it just ain't there... dang. |
| 21:32.43 | ManxPower | You are doing the equiv of asking about Winzip on a pkzip channel |
| 21:32.45 | mvanbaak | it would have told you |
| 21:33.03 | mvanbaak | magic_hat: do you have the universe repos enabled ? |
| 21:33.20 | magic_hat | Manx: if there was another channel that was more in line w/ what I'm working on, I'd surely ask there. You guys are all I have! lol |
| 21:33.40 | mvanbaak | magic_hat: #ubuntu would have been a good guess |
| 21:34.01 | magic_hat | mvanbaak: yeah, those guys see the word asterisk and their eyes glaze over. |
| 21:34.23 | alexcf | w 6 |
| 21:34.24 | ManxPower | magic_hat: that has got to be one of the lamest excuses for wasting the channel's time since some idiot came in here asking for FreePBX help. |
| 21:35.02 | *** join/#asterisk r0d3nt (i=nobody@foster.stonedcoder.org) |
| 21:35.08 | ManxPower | magic_hat: But your problem is not with Asterisk, it is with an Unbuntu package. This is not rocket science. If you want us to be able to help you then install from source. |
| 21:35.57 | mvanbaak | or do what I tell you to do |
| 21:36.07 | ManxPower | I think I'll go to my bank on monday and ask them for help with the world financial markets. |
| 21:36.11 | magic_hat | mvanbaak: Yes, I did that. No, it didn't help. |
| 21:36.21 | ManxPower | mvanbaak: it's pretty obvious THAT isn't going to happen. |
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| 21:36.44 | mvanbaak | magic_hat: do you have the universe repo added to your apt sources ? |
| 21:36.55 | magic_hat | mvanbaak: yeah. |
| 21:37.07 | mvanbaak | then in /usr/share/asterisk/sounds |
| 21:37.10 | mvanbaak | there they are |
| 21:37.13 | *** part/#asterisk fittysix (n=Fittysix@static-66-38-159-33.gtcust.grouptelecom.net) |
| 21:37.23 | magic_hat | except.... they're not. lol |
| 21:37.49 | mvanbaak | look, I just booted my ubuntu VM for you, installed the package and they are there |
| 21:38.09 | mvanbaak | http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=asterisk-sounds-main&version=gutsy&arch=all |
| 21:38.12 | mvanbaak | there |
| 21:38.13 | mvanbaak | look for yourself |
| 21:38.58 | ManxPower | mvanbaak: Now you know why I get bitchy here. 8-) |
| 21:39.05 | magic_hat | okay, I just purged everything and reinstalled and I'm all set. |
| 21:39.16 | magic_hat | No idea what just happened. lol |
| 21:39.24 | mvanbaak | ManxPower: yeah, totally |
| 21:39.43 | ManxPower | mvanbaak: But now and for the rest of your life, you will be the Unbuntu expert for this channel 8-) |
| 21:39.48 | drmessano | ASKERISK() has be decrapinated in 1.6 |
| 21:39.50 | drmessano | :( |
| 21:40.04 | drmessano | s/be/been |
| 21:40.19 | jblack | i'm getting to dislike this spa-8k |
| 21:40.25 | magic_hat | Manx: I think you need to tell him to discuss that issue in the askerisk channel :) |
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| 21:40.29 | drmessano | Why is that? |
| 21:40.44 | mvanbaak | ManxPower: nice *NOT* |
| 21:40.56 | ManxPower | Tell who? |
| 21:41.01 | jblack | Because it has unpredictable behaviour |
| 21:41.11 | ManxPower | drmessano:, mvanbaak, or jblack? |
| 21:41.15 | drmessano | Askubuntu FTFW |
| 21:41.21 | drmessano | jblack |
| 21:41.22 | magic_hat | lol |
| 21:41.23 | drmessano | He answered me |
| 21:41.30 | jblack | This time, it's decided one of my lines should be nat enabled, and the option to turn it off is greyed out. |
| 21:41.34 | mvanbaak | ManxPower: you should tell it to /dev/null |
| 21:41.43 | drmessano | Ubunstrisk |
| 21:42.27 | mvanbaak | asterbuntu |
| 21:42.44 | mvanbaak | you already have edubuntu and mythbuntu |
| 21:42.47 | mvanbaak | so why no asterbuntu |
| 21:42.50 | drmessano | Why not just call it trixbox? |
| 21:42.57 | mvanbaak | whehehehehe |
| 21:42.59 | ManxPower | ~gui |
| 21:43.00 | jbot | rumour has it, gui is (Graphical User Interface) Any system that uses graphics to represent the functions of a program. All Windows operating systems are GUI. or point-and-drool, double-click, drag-and-drop, ... or at http://pla-netx.com/linebackn/guis/index.html. Of course Real Programmers use the command line interface. See cli |
| 21:43.04 | ManxPower | ~zeek |
| 21:43.12 | ManxPower | ~zeeek |
| 21:43.13 | jbot | hmm... zeeek is someone who once said "learning asterisk using a GUI is like learning sex through masturbation. You'll never get to the good stuff." |
| 21:43.18 | ManxPower | that's what I was looking for. |
| 21:43.23 | jblack | Wouldn't you think that a "factory reset" would wipe all settings? |
| 21:43.25 | jblack | Noooooo. |
| 21:43.45 | ManxPower | jblack: there are at least two types of factory resets for the SPAs. |
| 21:43.48 | *** join/#asterisk gambolputty (n=BC43599@24.175.72.120) |
| 21:44.00 | ManxPower | reset user settings and reset all. |
| 21:44.05 | drmessano | I can't wait for Ubuntu 10.3 Panting Platypus |
| 21:44.07 | drmessano | Thats gonna rock |
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| 21:44.21 | jblack | There's factory, and user factory. |
| 21:44.21 | gambolputty | Hi. I am using a trunk version of * and am having trouble setting a global variable with the Set command. Can someone help? |
| 21:44.25 | DumFuq | hi guys |
| 21:44.34 | drmessano | Hi, you DumFuq |
| 21:44.35 | drmessano | I mean |
| 21:44.39 | DumFuq | :) |
| 21:44.46 | jblack | I'm using the hard core factory set, which claims "and all settings will be reset to their defaults" |
| 21:44.49 | ManxPower | gambolputty: maybe someone can if you give more information |
| 21:45.01 | ManxPower | jblack: I assume this device is not locked to a provider? |
| 21:45.08 | jblack | Nope. |
| 21:45.20 | jblack | It claimed a factory reset, but line 4 is still stuck |
| 21:45.22 | ManxPower | I guess it's time to call SPA tech support them |
| 21:45.27 | DumFuq | if I receive a call over a sip trunk and I want to see the caller ID ... how can I do this? |
| 21:45.32 | jblack | I think I'll do a power cycle on it |
| 21:45.42 | gambolputty | exten => 334,n,set(ring334=$[1 + ${ring334}],g) |
| 21:45.43 | ManxPower | ~siptrunk |
| 21:45.44 | jbot | There is nothing special about a SIP trunk in the protocol like there is in the case of IAX2, for example. You set up a SIP trunk like a regular peer in sip.conf. |
| 21:45.52 | gambolputty | that's what I tried, but it isn't working anymore |
| 21:45.52 | drmessano | jblack: I am close on the HappyClownPhone companion PBX.. AskClown is coming along nicely |
| 21:45.56 | ManxPower | ~trunk |
| 21:45.57 | jbot | i heard trunk is is a word with varying definitions. In Asterisk, a trunk is a "stream of UDP packets containing IAX2 frames from more than 1 call"; in telecom, a trunk is a "single voice channel between two pieces of switching equipment."; in Ethernet a trunk carries more than one 802.1q VLAN. There is no such thing as a "SIP Trunk" -- Don't use the term. |
| 21:46.02 | gambolputty | the ,g worked in 1.4 with no problem |
| 21:46.05 | gambolputty | but not in trunk |
| 21:46.31 | InHisName | ~book |
| 21:46.31 | jbot | Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com |
| 21:46.37 | ManxPower | gambolputty: you would need to report the issue to bugs.digium.com since it' is a dev issue. |
| 21:46.44 | gambolputty | ok |
| 21:47.05 | DumFuq | sorry guys ... I can't tell if my question is being answered or not ... just seems to be getting mixed up in all the conversations |
| 21:47.41 | ManxPower | DumFuq: there is no such thing as a SIP trunk. |
| 21:47.58 | ManxPower | Your question was vague. |
| 21:48.12 | DumFuq | ManxPower: sorry if the question was vague |
| 21:48.22 | ManxPower | Do you want to see the Caller*ID information in the CLI, Dialplal, Phone, queue, or the CDRs? |
| 21:48.43 | DumFuq | ManxPower: phone |
| 21:48.48 | mvanbaak | ManxPower: all |
| 21:48.51 | ManxPower | DumFuq: that happens by defaul |
| 21:48.56 | ManxPower | default, that is. |
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| 21:50.03 | drmessano | Theres no such thing as a SIP trunk? |
| 21:50.07 | mvanbaak | no |
| 21:50.32 | ManxPower | Nope. |
| 21:50.55 | drmessano | Explain |
| 21:50.58 | InHisName | I am using GoToIfTime() and need to know which time is used for the decision. Seems to NOT be local time. I am in zone -5. I type date at linux prompt and see local time. |
| 21:51.20 | mvanbaak | ~siptrunk |
| 21:51.20 | jbot | There is nothing special about a SIP trunk in the protocol like there is in the case of IAX2, for example. You set up a SIP trunk like a regular peer in sip.conf. |
| 21:51.33 | mvanbaak | it's not a trunk |
| 21:51.38 | mvanbaak | it's simply yet another peer |
| 21:52.06 | drmessano | Hmm |
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| 21:52.52 | ManxPower | "SIP Trunk" is a MARKETING term, nothing else. |
| 21:53.03 | drmessano | So can I use SIP to trunk.. without it being a SIP trunk? |
| 21:53.14 | jblack | christ. |
| 21:53.19 | ManxPower | drmessano: no. |
| 21:53.48 | ManxPower | I think your confusion is that the term "trunk" applies to VoIP. It doesn't. |
| 21:54.26 | jblack | There we go. At least now I have the garbage off of the office line. |
| 21:54.34 | ManxPower | SIP doesn't care if you are sending 1 call or 100 calls or 1000 calls between two points. |
| 21:54.49 | jblack | now to figure out how nat mapping enable got turn on, then stuck on, on the office line |
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| 21:56.17 | drmessano | ok ok |
| 21:56.37 | drmessano | I found a log from here where someone pointed out that you cant "trunk" something that temporary |
| 21:56.39 | ManxPower | The term is about as accurate as calling the internet "the web" |
| 21:56.58 | ManxPower | actually, less accurate then that. |
| 21:57.00 | drmessano | So its not a fixed path |
| 21:58.15 | drmessano | so, with VoIP s/trunk/peer ? |
| 21:58.27 | mvanbaak | with sip yes |
| 21:58.34 | mvanbaak | in IAX2 you do have a trunk |
| 21:58.48 | ManxPower | even then an IAX2 trunk is NOTHING like a PSTN trunk |
| 21:58.54 | mvanbaak | correct |
| 21:59.10 | mvanbaak | but it's also different from a default IAX2 peer |
| 21:59.27 | drmessano | This is probably all wrong, but IAX2 having a trunk has to do with how it handles n+1 calls or what? |
| 21:59.38 | mvanbaak | yup |
| 21:59.42 | drmessano | Ah |
| 21:59.48 | *** join/#asterisk DrAk0 (n=ljd@nelug/coreteam/luisjose) |
| 21:59.50 | mvanbaak | actually |
| 21:59.53 | ManxPower | drmessano: and IAX2 trunk reduces bandwidth usage by putting audio from multiple calls into the same UDP packet. |
| 21:59.59 | mvanbaak | having a trunk for only 1 call is useless |
| 22:00.00 | drmessano | I knew that |
| 22:00.08 | mvanbaak | it only helps when more then 3 concurrent calls |
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| 22:01.47 | drmessano | So it comes down to what I kinda already knew about how SIP and IAX handle concurrent calls |
| 22:02.40 | ManxPower | SIP does nothing special for concurrant calls. |
| 22:02.45 | drmessano | Right |
| 22:06.24 | drmessano | More fun with Twitter |
| 22:06.29 | drmessano | "Can anyone dm me that site where you can email a voip link? I cant look. Pwr is out." |
| 22:07.00 | jblack | Even linksys's website is hosed. 5kb/sec downloads? |
| 22:07.17 | drmessano | Linksys website is always slow |
| 22:07.48 | magic_hat | okay, folks... I got my sound files installed. when I log into the client and issue sip debug, i get no such command. wtf? |
| 22:09.13 | mvanbaak | sip set debug |
| 22:10.23 | magic_hat | mvanbaak: same result, unfortunately |
| 22:11.09 | magic_hat | if I do help from the client, it lists stun debug, etc., but not sip debug. |
| 22:11.26 | *** part/#asterisk cuco (n=elcuco@bzq-79-176-117-166.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 22:11.59 | mvanbaak | try 'help sip' |
| 22:12.39 | mvanbaak | on trunk it's 'sip set debug on' |
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| 22:22.45 | ManxPower | magic_hat: unfortunatly you have not read UPGRADE.txt |
| 22:23.03 | ManxPower | which documents command changes |
| 22:23.33 | mvanbaak | hhmm |
| 22:23.40 | mvanbaak | the next one will be huge |
| 22:24.00 | mvanbaak | as blitzrage and me are going to deprecate a _LOT_ of cli commands |
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| 22:34.57 | [TK]D-Fender | mvanbaak, trunking benifits as of the 2nd call..... every subsequent call...... |
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| 22:42.17 | drmessano | Is there any way I can send a call to an ext in a diaplan, and return after the ext has been called and a voicemail has been left? |
| 22:44.10 | mvanbaak | [TK]D-Fender: my experience is it's only helpfull after 2 calls, so 3+ |
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| 22:46.22 | [TK]D-Fender | mvanbaak, math says 2nd... love to know how it could be "wrong" |
| 22:47.00 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano, shove a priority after "Voicemail" and make sure they exit voicemail without hanging up |
| 22:47.12 | mvanbaak | brb, xen kernel upgrade |
| 22:47.15 | drmessano | Ok cool, thanks |
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| 22:56.27 | mvanbaak | ok, I'm off to bed |
| 22:56.29 | mvanbaak | latero all |
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| 23:06.03 | magic_hat | hey everyone... finally got my new box running, and am reviewing the setup to make sure * is always on. I have the box on a UPS. wondering if my best bet is safe_asterisk, whether to use an init.d script to start, etc. |
| 23:06.51 | tzafrir_home | you should use a proper init.d script. Otherwise, what do you do when you want to stop asterisk? |
| 23:07.32 | tzafrir_home | What does someone else do when he/she wants to stop asterisk? starts figuring out the special way asterisk uses? |
| 23:07.33 | ManxPower | The default init script uses safe_asterisk |
| 23:07.44 | tzafrir_home | Think of the admin who will run this system after you |
| 23:08.16 | tzafrir_home | yeah, and by default anybody with local access to the system also has access to Asterisk's console |
| 23:09.08 | magic_hat | Manx: I saw that.... but I also saw some stuff about safe_asterisk not being production ready. |
| 23:09.40 | tzafrir_home | I've seen too many times when safe_asterisk ran wild |
| 23:09.54 | tzafrir_home | or kept restarting |
| 23:10.10 | tzafrir_home | and thus kept the system down, and non-available |
| 23:10.11 | ManxPower | magic_hat: cite your source |
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| 23:10.40 | ManxPower | the only time I have ever seen safe_asterisk keep restarting Asterisk is when Asterisk kept crashing. |
| 23:10.40 | magic_hat | Manx: random internet ramblings. |
| 23:11.21 | tzafrir_home | ManxPower, right - asterisk is wrongly configured in a way, and you have no simple way to know that. |
| 23:12.04 | tzafrir_home | or a wrong module in the modules directory |
| 23:12.11 | tzafrir_home | or a library suddenly missing |
| 23:12.29 | ManxPower | I'm still waiting to see the issue here that is unique to safe_asterisk |
| 23:12.52 | tzafrir_home | It makes handling the error more difficult |
| 23:13.06 | tzafrir_home | The error does not stand out in the end of the log file |
| 23:13.17 | ManxPower | I suppose if you make changes to asterisk and don't verify that you didn't break anything. |
| 23:13.26 | tzafrir_home | And you have asterisk running and creating load |
| 23:13.56 | tzafrir_home | I suppose if you assume Asterisk will never break you don't need safe_asterisk in the first place |
| 23:14.19 | ManxPower | tzafrir_home: What do you use? |
| 23:14.34 | tzafrir_home | What benefits does it bring? |
| 23:14.39 | tzafrir_home | I don't use it |
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| 23:14.58 | saik0 | Whenever calls are forwarded to any external POTS number i get no audio. The calls are connected and terminated right, only audio is missing. Everything is fine in both incoming and outgoing calls otherwise. |
| 23:16.27 | ManxPower | You realize safe_asterisk can e-mail you when asterisk crashes, right? |
| 23:16.41 | ManxPower | tzafrir_home: so you manually start asterisk every time? |
| 23:16.53 | tzafrir_home | I don't need to |
| 23:17.17 | ManxPower | Asterisk doesn't just magically start itself. You do it manually or you do it automatically somehow. |
| 23:17.35 | tzafrir_home | Asterisk shouldn't magically crash as well |
| 23:17.50 | ManxPower | Now who is living in a fantasy world? |
| 23:18.29 | tzafrir_home | So far it has created more problems for me, when troubleshooting issues |
| 23:18.48 | ManxPower | I assume "it" means "safe_asterisk"? |
| 23:19.03 | tzafrir_home | It has on a number of occasions made a system inaccessible due to the load of restarting |
| 23:19.07 | tzafrir_home | yes |
| 23:19.23 | ManxPower | Cool. How DO you start Asterisk? |
| 23:19.39 | tzafrir_home | An init.d script. That calls asterisk |
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| 23:20.01 | ManxPower | That answers my question: ManxPower: tzafrir_home: What do you use? |
| 23:20.56 | magic_hat | okay, i'm using the /etc/init.d with safe asterisk and getting "Asterisk ended with exit status 1" |
| 23:21.12 | magic_hat | if i start with asterisk -vvvc it works fine. |
| 23:21.24 | tzafrir_home | magic_hat, check the logs |
| 23:21.34 | ManxPower | magic_hat: I guess you should find out what is different. |
| 23:21.42 | tzafrir_home | Specifically /var/log/asterisk/messages |
| 23:22.46 | tzafrir_home | magic_hat, my guess: permissions |
| 23:23.30 | tzafrir_home | That's why we added a "debug" command to the Debian asterisk init.d script, to run -cvvv, but also with -U asterisk |
| 23:25.33 | magic_hat | ok, i'm getting cat: /var/run/asterisk.pid: No such file or directory, but I've got astrundir => /var/run/asterisk in asterisk.conf |
| 23:27.14 | magic_hat | there's nothing in the messages log. |
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| 23:28.27 | magic_hat | okay, it's running as -U asterisk but all the perms are set for root |
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| 23:31.40 | tzafrir_home | "cat" is not from asterisk. So it must be from the script safe_asterisk |
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