| 00:04.06 | wglenncamp | I could fawking kick myself! |
| 00:04.56 | wglenncamp | All of my .cfg files were missing the phone1.cfg, it's no wonder it didn't work.. ARGHH.. Thanks TK for your help |
| 00:05.06 | wglenncamp | It's working fine now. |
| 00:06.48 | wglenncamp | This is how I set my phones phone<ext>.cfg , server.cfg, phone1.cfg, sip.cfg |
| 00:07.05 | wglenncamp | Now they are working great. All is well in the world.. Now for the next fire. |
| 00:16.01 | wglenncamp | haha.. |
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| 00:34.46 | Greek-Boy | does anyone know where I can download old version of asterisk? as in 1.0 or previous versions? |
| 00:39.34 | [TK]D-Fender | Greek-Boy, www.asterisk.org |
| 00:40.01 | SwK | BAH HUMBUG |
| 00:42.33 | Greek-Boy | [TK]D-Fender; I hope you dont hate me for always asking stupid quetions |
| 00:42.34 | Greek-Boy | :P |
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| 02:03.42 | mcf3782 | Hi folks. I need a little help with syntax for the Dial() application. I have a POTS line connected to my Asterisk system. It seems that Bellsou..err "the new at&t" has somehow set this line to block sending CallerID information. So until I can get them to fix it, I want any call that dials '9' to dial outside the PBX to send "*82" before it dials the number. That turns off the CallerID block for that call. I can't figur |
| 02:04.42 | [TK]D-Fender | mcf3782, Well.... jsut shove the *82 in front of the number you want to dial! |
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| 02:05.25 | mcf3782 | Sounds simple enough. But so far, everything I've tried has failed. |
| 02:05.36 | mcf3782 | exten => _9.,1,Dial(zap/g2/www${EXTEN:1}) |
| 02:05.45 | mcf3782 | Where does that *82 go in that line? |
| 02:05.52 | [TK]D-Fender | mcf3782, Go shove the *82 in there! |
| 02:06.20 | [TK]D-Fender | mcf3782, I'll give you a clue... what gets dialed out that line is everything AFTER the second slash... |
| 02:07.31 | mcf3782 | Oh. So ...zap/g2/*82www${EXTEN:1}) ? |
| 02:08.13 | [TK]D-Fender | mcf3782, I might suggest a "ww" before and after the *82 for a 1s pause on either side. |
| 02:08.20 | [TK]D-Fender | mcrfBut pretty much, yeah. |
| 02:08.27 | mcf3782 | Ahh. Good idea. |
| 02:08.47 | [TK]D-Fender | mcf3782, you definitely DO want a pause between the *82 and you ACTUAL number for sure |
| 02:10.11 | mcf3782 | Ahh! Perfect! That did exactly what I wanted. |
| 02:10.27 | mcf3782 | *sigh* I should have just asked the question hours ago. |
| 02:10.32 | mcf3782 | Thanks, TK! |
| 02:10.55 | [TK]D-Fender | mcf3782, Glad to help |
| 02:11.28 | [TK]D-Fender | mcf3782, when dealing with dialing CLASS codes like that you want to elave an extra second or two in there for it to accept the code and begin sending the secondary dialtone |
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| 02:12.07 | mrdigital | i need to relearn the mysql dialplan coding can anyone give me a recap on how to do it? |
| 02:12.17 | mcf3782 | Makes perfect sense. I'll scribble a note about that in my notebook. |
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| 02:17.04 | mcf3782 | I can only hope that making this SIP ATA I have work is going to be as simple; but I'm not holding my breath. It works great on my internal LAN, but I'm going to try taking it to my dad's this week and connecting back to my system from his house across his cable modem, the Internet, and to my Asterisk system. |
| 02:17.46 | mcf3782 | I've heard all manner of horror stories about getting SIP and NAT to work together; so I'm expecting an exercise in frustration. But, that's the best way to learn. :) |
| 02:18.02 | [TK]D-Fender | ~sipnat |
| 02:18.03 | jbot | [~sipnat] Quick guide on configuring * + SIP behind NAT : http://www.aocomputing.net/?p=3 otherwise check the WIKI at http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+SIP+NAT+solutions |
| 02:18.04 | [TK]D-Fender | ^^^^ |
| 02:18.07 | [TK]D-Fender | no big deal |
| 02:18.21 | mrdigital | mcf3782: use hamachi |
| 02:18.22 | [TK]D-Fender | most of the time. |
| 02:18.25 | mrdigital | VPN |
| 02:18.30 | mrdigital | it bypasses the nat |
| 02:18.38 | mrdigital | and goes thru adiff network |
| 02:18.45 | jql | yay frustration |
| 02:18.59 | [TK]D-Fender | mrdigital, Yeah.. if he installs it on his dad's router maybe.... good luck with THAT idea |
| 02:19.15 | mrdigital | [TK]D-Fender: doesnt go on the router |
| 02:19.37 | mrdigital | the hamachi client goes onto each PC |
| 02:19.38 | [TK]D-Fender | mrdigital, well if you looked at what he was asking about.... what ATA do you know that supports it on the ATA itself? |
| 02:19.47 | mrdigital | oh |
| 02:19.51 | mrdigital | the ATA nvrmind LOL |
| 02:19.54 | [TK]D-Fender | mrdigital, because he sure didn't say "soft-phone" |
| 02:20.04 | mrdigital | im tired lol |
| 02:20.32 | [TK]D-Fender | mrdigital, Sleep! It works for billions world-wide! |
| 02:20.56 | mrdigital | lol |
| 02:21.39 | mcf3782 | Softphone would be nice. I'd just install the zoiper IAX softphone and be done with it. But best to stick with technology dad understands first. :) |
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| 02:22.57 | jql | you mean familiar like http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=287 ? |
| 02:23.45 | mcf3782 | Now *THAT* is funny! :) |
| 02:24.29 | mcf3782 | If it weren't $250, I'd buy one just for the entertainment value of being able to walk down the street talking on it and watching other people try and figure it out. :-) |
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| 02:26.52 | [TK]D-Fender | mcf3782, or you could just read that guide, chage a few settings and let life go on at no greater expense for time & money |
| 02:27.16 | mcf3782 | I'm reading now. :) |
| 02:30.28 | mcf3782 | Cool. The aocomputing.net page looks like a pretty straightforward senario. Nothing at all mentioned about needing a STUN server. Excellent. :) |
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| 02:30.46 | Qwell | mcf3782: stun is very rarely (never?) needed |
| 02:30.48 | [TK]D-Fender | mcf3782, you're welcome. |
| 02:31.02 | Qwell | so...pulseaudio is freaking awesome |
| 02:31.22 | [TK]D-Fender | Qwell, Bell Tactical Defense rotary phone FTW! |
| 02:31.43 | mcf3782 | I've already got UDP 5060 and 10000-20000 forwarded from *my* router to my Asterisk box, so it looks like my network is set. The rest should be just tinkering with sip.conf. |
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| 03:34.19 | _x86_ | re |
| 03:34.22 | _x86_ | anyone home? |
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| 03:44.12 | GuyOCanada | Hello guys |
| 03:45.00 | GuyOCanada | I am looking for a good but not so pricy voip hardware phone (with the capability of at least 2 lines) and a backlit lcd would be cool anything you can recommend? |
| 03:45.50 | _x86_ | grandstream has backlit LCD |
| 03:45.55 | _x86_ | but grandstream is total crap |
| 03:46.05 | mcf3782 | I'm very happy with my Grandstream GXP2000's. |
| 03:46.05 | _x86_ | might check out Linksys, they might have backlit LCD |
| 03:46.08 | _x86_ | check out the 942 |
| 03:47.00 | _x86_ | SPA-942 |
| 03:47.27 | jql | boo grandstream |
| 03:47.31 | _x86_ | indeed |
| 03:47.42 | _x86_ | mcf3782: grandstream is complete arse |
| 03:47.48 | mcf3782 | To each his own. |
| 03:48.01 | mcf3782 | I've had zero problems with mine. |
| 03:48.18 | _x86_ | must not use it in a production environment then ;) |
| 03:48.33 | _x86_ | for minimal home use with limited features, it works in a pinch |
| 03:48.39 | _x86_ | jql: haha |
| 03:48.46 | _x86_ | jql: had that problem with my BT101 |
| 03:49.18 | jql | I tried jogging on the firmware treadmill with them, too |
| 03:49.20 | jql | bad idea |
| 03:49.26 | _x86_ | oh yeah |
| 03:49.30 | jql | really, monumentally bad idea |
| 03:49.39 | _x86_ | my entire GS experience was bad |
| 03:49.41 | mcf3782 | I did at my last job. We installed an entire 250 seat office with GXP2000's, connected to Cisco POE switches. |
| 03:49.59 | _x86_ | mcf3782: is that why you no longer work there? :) |
| 03:50.22 | mcf3782 | Out of the 270 phones we ordered, we had to send 3 back for hardware problems. With those 3 exceptions, they just worked. |
| 03:51.09 | jql | I don't doubt they work well enough for some people... after all, someone has to buy them |
| 03:51.14 | _x86_ | right |
| 03:51.28 | mcf3782 | I no longer work there, because once me and the other guy who were designing and installing the system got it all up and runnig and stable; the management decided that the normal desktop IT support people could run the phone system. |
| 03:51.42 | mcf3782 | They're finding out it's not that simple now. :-) |
| 03:52.10 | jql | they have poe and a backlight. great potential, great price. kept getting complaints, though |
| 03:52.27 | _x86_ | jql: i can't think of anything good about grandstream |
| 03:52.40 | _x86_ | even for home use my BT101 was unacceptable |
| 03:52.53 | _x86_ | i've got (3) Polycom IP601's at home now ;) |
| 03:53.19 | _x86_ | you've got a 550 at home?> |
| 03:53.24 | mcf3782 | My only "complaint" is/was that their documentation is pretty poor. But I had great response from their tech support folks when I had questions. It never took more than a few hours for someone to get back to me. |
| 03:53.24 | jql | yeah. go backlight! |
| 03:53.28 | _x86_ | nifty |
| 03:53.48 | jql | I should get a wallmount bracket for it, though |
| 03:53.49 | _x86_ | mcf3782: when i have a problem with polycom, i get someone INSTANTLY on the phone |
| 03:53.54 | jql | I don't much like their desk profile |
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| 03:54.26 | teknoprep | has anyone here used ASTassistant before? |
| 03:54.34 | mcf3782 | Now, we did find that there was a major difference between version 1 of their hardware and version 2. Version 2 has far, far better voice quality. |
| 03:54.35 | _x86_ | never heard of it |
| 03:54.45 | teknoprep | http://www.astassistant.com/ |
| 03:54.49 | teknoprep | its actually pretty nice |
| 03:54.51 | jql | teknoprep: *shrug* |
| 03:55.02 | teknoprep | only problem i am having is using it with SCCP phones |
| 03:55.05 | mcf3782 | I got an answer on the phone when I called Grandstream too. But I hate talking on the phone. I'd rather send email. :) |
| 03:55.38 | teknoprep | mcf3782, grandstream still sucks |
| 03:55.46 | _x86_ | teknoprep: thank you! |
| 03:56.00 | _x86_ | teknoprep: we've been trying to convince him of that for like the last hour ;) |
| 03:56.05 | teknoprep | mcf3782, i got rid of ALL my grandstream phones except where i need a global speakerphone for Intercom |
| 03:56.36 | mcf3782 | *shrug* Sorry you had problems. I like mine. :) |
| 03:56.37 | teknoprep | mcf3782, i hook the stereo mini jack out of the grandstream to a stereo... and wala... an uber nice and easy to setup intercom system |
| 03:56.43 | _x86_ | teknoprep: they'd work decently as paging stations |
| 03:56.46 | Kobaz | if only you could use speakerphone or a headset without having to unplug the headset, grandstream isnt that bad |
| 03:56.47 | teknoprep | mcf3782, have you ever used other phones before? |
| 03:57.23 | teknoprep | _x86_, i have the parts of on inside a box... i use it for ppl trying to enter the back door of the building |
| 03:57.28 | teknoprep | s/on/one |
| 03:57.38 | mcf3782 | Cisco, Polycom, Linksys, and...umm....one other one that I can't remember the name of right now. Really dorky looking thing. |
| 03:57.43 | jql | Snom? |
| 03:57.46 | jql | pretty dorky |
| 03:57.46 | teknoprep | jql, i love cisco now.. now that i have them set up with sccp |
| 03:58.01 | mcf3782 | May have been a Snom. |
| 03:58.02 | jql | never considered sccp, really |
| 03:58.06 | teknoprep | how can you like grandstream when you have used Cisco / Polycom phones |
| 03:58.07 | _x86_ | Aastra phones are fairly dorky looking |
| 03:58.13 | jql | I do business over the internets... don't trust it |
| 03:58.16 | jql | aah, aastra |
| 03:58.18 | mcf3782 | Aastra! that's it. |
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| 03:58.27 | teknoprep | jql, sccp over inet was very very easy to setup |
| 03:58.28 | jql | yeah, that thing is so ghetto-european |
| 03:58.29 | mcf3782 | very....dumb looking phone, imo |
| 03:58.33 | jql | but, hey, it's backlit. :) |
| 03:58.36 | _x86_ | aastra phones are decent quality |
| 03:58.46 | WilliamK | hadn't had time to play with it |
| 03:58.55 | WilliamK | have 3 new polycoms being delivered tommorow |
| 03:59.00 | teknoprep | and grandstream gxp-2000 doesn't look and feel very cheesy ? |
| 03:59.02 | WilliamK | they'll be in their boxes too for a while |
| 03:59.05 | _x86_ | teknoprep: i've got a spare BT101 sitting around... i'm thinking about setting up what you're talking about |
| 03:59.12 | _x86_ | teknoprep: what did you do? just make it auto-answer? |
| 03:59.16 | jql | I've been meaning to certify the aastra for my company. have to nail down its remote config options, still |
| 03:59.17 | teknoprep | yeah |
| 03:59.19 | WilliamK | got the cisco ones working, so I'm not giving the client new Polycoms |
| 03:59.24 | _x86_ | teknoprep: the mini headphone jack takes standard headphone plug? |
| 03:59.33 | teknoprep | well i use GXP-2000 for the intercom |
| 03:59.41 | teknoprep | SIP auto answer in the header or whatever |
| 03:59.44 | mcf3782 | Personally, I find the Cisco phones difficult to configure. And for their price, we just didn't see any benefit to them over the GXP2000s. |
| 03:59.50 | teknoprep | it auto picks up |
| 03:59.56 | WilliamK | Cisco ones are a royal pain |
| 03:59.59 | _x86_ | teknoprep: BT101 auto picks up too? |
| 04:00.02 | teknoprep | are you guys nuts |
| 04:00.06 | mcf3782 | That's one of the first things I turned off (auto answer). |
| 04:00.10 | teknoprep | _x86_ i never used a BT101 |
| 04:00.20 | WilliamK | teknoprep, u got nuts? :) |
| 04:00.32 | mcf3782 | I want to know that there's a live mic in the room, just just have someone dial an extension and be able to listen. |
| 04:00.33 | jql | heh, auto-answer is one of the things I explicitly added *in* to my polycom config |
| 04:00.51 | [TK]D-Fender | ~gs |
| 04:00.51 | jbot | GrandSuck phones & gateways are cheap junk which should be avoided with extreme prejudice. |
| 04:00.53 | [TK]D-Fender | ~grandstream |
| 04:00.54 | jbot | methinks grandstream is the Yugo of VoIP hardware. Run. Run away now. |
| 04:01.00 | WilliamK | auto answer is cool for Colo rooms |
| 04:01.01 | jql | mcf3782: that's half the fun. as a service-provider, that is |
| 04:01.05 | WilliamK | NOT cool for your house |
| 04:01.07 | Kobaz | just in case... anyone know if it is possible to use the speakerphone or headset without unplugging the headset on a gxp2000? |
| 04:01.07 | _x86_ | jql: hmm polycom 601 can auto-answer? |
| 04:01.13 | WilliamK | has a privacy issue there |
| 04:01.18 | teknoprep | WilliamK, mcf3782, cisco is pretty much the easiest phone to configure... get your SIPDefault.cnf out and program ALL your standard settings.. then get your SIP<mac>.cnf and set your per phone settings as needed |
| 04:01.22 | jql | _x86_: it will ring first, but you can set the ring to silence |
| 04:01.30 | [TK]D-Fender | _x86_, ALL Polycoms can |
| 04:01.35 | _x86_ | jql: can i take the headset jack to my home stereo? |
| 04:01.40 | teknoprep | WilliamK, mcf3782 , you guys must be too lazy... you need your GUI to configure crap |
| 04:01.44 | WilliamK | might be doing the deed in your house and someone from work or a neighbor call to say hi....damn cisco auto-answers |
| 04:01.44 | jql | I dunno |
| 04:01.52 | WilliamK | SNOM has the auto answer capability too if I remember |
| 04:02.02 | _x86_ | [TK]D-Fender: you know if it's possible to take the headset jack into an RCA input on a stereo? |
| 04:02.04 | teknoprep | WilliamK, grandstream has it also |
| 04:02.09 | mcf3782 | All my configs were done as text files, thankyouverymuch. |
| 04:02.10 | jql | yeah, Snom does too. I remember setting the Snom to download ringtones from the internet |
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| 04:02.14 | WilliamK | teknoprep, I just wrote all the files by hand and typically don't use a GUI |
| 04:02.18 | jql | imperial march from Star Wars: RING |
| 04:02.34 | teknoprep | mcf3782, they have to be setup that way |
| 04:02.38 | [TK]D-Fender | GuyOCanada, If you're solid on your need for backlight and tight on money, the SPA-942 wouldn't be a bad choice. |
| 04:02.39 | teknoprep | mcf3782, its cisco |
| 04:02.45 | jql | da da dada da dada da dada |
| 04:02.51 | _x86_ | [TK]D-Fender: that's what i had recommended :) |
| 04:02.54 | [TK]D-Fender | _x86_, And why would you want to do that? |
| 04:02.56 | mcf3782 | I dislike GUI config thingies for the most part. But I'm an old Unix guy. I *like* command lines. :) |
| 04:03.09 | _x86_ | [TK]D-Fender: want to use my home stereo for paging |
| 04:03.11 | teknoprep | [TK]D-Fender, i dunno .. i don't really like the SPA-942 |
| 04:03.19 | WilliamK | I only like GUI when it works right the first time and it's not buggie as hell |
| 04:03.23 | [TK]D-Fender | _x86_, Chan_oss <------- |
| 04:03.24 | WilliamK | most GUIs I see are buggie |
| 04:03.30 | jql | the 942 kinda looks like a cisco, but it feels amazingly cheap |
| 04:03.37 | _x86_ | [TK]D-Fender: the asterisk server is in another room |
| 04:03.42 | teknoprep | jql agreed |
| 04:03.55 | _x86_ | polycom IP601 and grandstream BT101 in the same room as stereo |
| 04:04.06 | [TK]D-Fender | teknoprep, Well the Linksys are "ok", but its a question of bang-buck + quality where someone makes the backlight a make-or-break deal component |
| 04:04.24 | teknoprep | does the Polycom 320 have a backlight? |
| 04:04.29 | [TK]D-Fender | teknoprep, nope |
| 04:04.29 | Kobaz | nope |
| 04:04.31 | jql | no |
| 04:04.32 | teknoprep | ghey |
| 04:04.34 | _x86_ | only 550/650 do iirc |
| 04:04.45 | jql | and the screen doesn't warrant it. it's... small |
| 04:04.46 | [TK]D-Fender | Polycom IP 550 / 650 are the only ones with backlight |
| 04:05.00 | teknoprep | hey [TK]D-Fender how is that HD audio |
| 04:05.05 | teknoprep | do you notice a difference? |
| 04:05.11 | [TK]D-Fender | teknoprep, waste of money |
| 04:05.17 | teknoprep | thats not what i asked |
| 04:05.21 | [TK]D-Fender | teknoprep, It'd only matter between 2 of those phones. |
| 04:05.33 | jql | fortunately, not a waste of bandwidth. :) |
| 04:05.34 | teknoprep | ahh ty ... thats what i asked lol |
| 04:05.44 | _x86_ | teknoprep: the speaker and microphone are far superior on the 550/650 |
| 04:05.45 | [TK]D-Fender | teknoprep, And since I don't care about eharing my co-workers any better than the outside world I could care less. |
| 04:05.55 | teknoprep | haha |
| 04:06.03 | teknoprep | HD Audio only works between polycom phones? |
| 04:06.04 | _x86_ | teknoprep: the fact that it uses G722 instead of G711 isn't that much of a difference tho |
| 04:06.14 | [TK]D-Fender | teknoprep, the PSTN is *not* HD. |
| 04:06.16 | jql | HD audio certainly does jack on the PSTN |
| 04:06.26 | _x86_ | teknoprep: "HD Voice" is only the use of the G.722 codec instead of G.729 |
| 04:06.28 | teknoprep | [TK]D-Fender, i don't use PSTN lines |
| 04:07.05 | [TK]D-Fender | teknoprep, I don't care HOW you get the to the PSTN, if you do by any means welcome to "lowest commond denominator" |
| 04:07.18 | _x86_ | wtf is commond |
| 04:07.23 | jql | I dunno if asterisk will transcode to another 16khz codec. might have to use a softphone that supports g722 to hdvoice it up |
| 04:07.26 | _x86_ | commond and conquer ;) |
| 04:07.40 | teknoprep | [TK]D-Fender, hey that work that bananaskin helped me with using SCCP over SIP with the cisco phones... wow what a GREAT difference... |
| 04:07.59 | [TK]D-Fender | _x86_, "common" + a trailing letter :p |
| 04:08.06 | teknoprep | [TK]D-Fender, i would have to say i am thouroughly impressed with cisco phones and asterisk |
| 04:08.27 | [TK]D-Fender | teknoprep, ok-fine-sure-whatever. And what did this add for you? |
| 04:08.32 | teknoprep | [TK]D-Fender, but you were right... it really is the SIP implementation from cisco |
| 04:08.36 | _x86_ | [TK]D-Fender: yeah i was just poking fun :) |
| 04:08.37 | jql | hey, Cisco is good enough for the CTU in 24 |
| 04:08.48 | _x86_ | hahaha |
| 04:08.54 | teknoprep | [TK]D-Fender, well .. i have 0 echo at all now |
| 04:09.07 | [TK]D-Fender | jql, "24" is a 1-Hour running commercial for Ford, Cisco, Dell, and Apple. |
| 04:09.10 | teknoprep | [TK]D-Fender, i have control of input gain... echo cancelation |
| 04:09.19 | teknoprep | LOL |
| 04:09.21 | jql | ... and the Republican Party |
| 04:09.40 | [TK]D-Fender | teknoprep, NOW!?!? Lol I never had echo with my Polycom gear in the first place. You are celebrating ADEQUACY <- |
| 04:09.55 | teknoprep | [TK]D-Fender, i agree with that idea |
| 04:09.55 | jql | echo is a sin. do not commit it |
| 04:09.57 | [TK]D-Fender | jql, Oh yes... |
| 04:10.05 | teknoprep | [TK]D-Fender, but its still nice to have my cisco stuff working with asterisk |
| 04:10.09 | teknoprep | [TK]D-Fender, correctly |
| 04:10.43 | [TK]D-Fender | teknoprep, Congratulations on your stuggle to catch up to what superior gear has been doing far cheaper for ages now. |
| 04:11.14 | teknoprep | [TK]D-Fender, why the hostility? |
| 04:11.32 | teknoprep | [TK]D-Fender, one i get the phones extremely cheap.. 2 i can see you really don't like cisco |
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| 04:11.43 | _x86_ | teknoprep: [TK]D-Fender is always like that |
| 04:11.50 | [TK]D-Fender | teknoprep, Not hostile, just poking fun at your marvelling of things we've taken for granted. |
| 04:12.00 | UnixDog | stop being hostel and go to your rooms |
| 04:12.06 | _x86_ | teknoprep: i've never met him personally, but i imagine him as some old dude with grey hair that refers to younger people as whippersnappers |
| 04:12.17 | mcf3782 | ROFL |
| 04:12.17 | [TK]D-Fender | teknoprep, You take the hard road on all of this, expect a few lumps, even in jest from us :) |
| 04:12.40 | [TK]D-Fender | _x86_, Don't let your imaginateion wander... its too little to be let out alone :p |
| 04:12.48 | _x86_ | [TK]D-Fender: *nod* |
| 04:12.50 | teknoprep | [TK]D-Fender, i have talked to him many times... and he always pokes at me when i say something stupid... he put me in place the other day as i am reading up on the asterisk book.. so i do not become trapped by GUI interfaces |
| 04:13.07 | _x86_ | yeah..... GUI == crap |
| 04:13.18 | teknoprep | [TK]D-Fender, actually... i took your advice the day i asked all about the polycom phones |
| 04:13.30 | [TK]D-Fender | teknoprep, A conversation I fully expect may have little impact on your end decision, but it was there to be made. |
| 04:13.32 | teknoprep | [TK]D-Fender, i had the office order a polycom ip320 and ip650 |
| 04:13.38 | teknoprep | [TK]D-Fender, just to test them out |
| 04:14.04 | [TK]D-Fender | teknoprep, go get the Admin guide & firmware pronto from your reseller and provision them yourself. |
| 04:14.06 | _x86_ | 650's are NOT WORTH the money |
| 04:14.21 | jql | indeed not. 550 has everything a growing boy needs |
| 04:14.24 | UnixDog | Snom it |
| 04:14.27 | teknoprep | _x86_ not my money |
| 04:14.28 | _x86_ | 550++ |
| 04:14.45 | teknoprep | i showed them the phones.. and someone else made the choice.. not my office |
| 04:14.50 | [TK]D-Fender | _x86_, Well they are in a way.... HD = meh, backlight = nice, USB expansion & greater RAM is a good thing down the road as is longer product lifespan. |
| 04:15.05 | [TK]D-Fender | _x86_, As long as you aren't loading up an office on them, 1 or 2 isn't a bad thing. |
| 04:15.21 | [TK]D-Fender | _x86_, IP 550 = total waste however :) |
| 04:15.21 | _x86_ | [TK]D-Fender: USB expansion? for what? a sidecar? |
| 04:15.32 | teknoprep | USB thumb drive |
| 04:15.34 | teknoprep | to play music |
| 04:15.38 | jql | _x86_: missile launch key |
| 04:15.38 | _x86_ | oh, lame |
| 04:15.39 | teknoprep | its a portable MP3 player |
| 04:15.46 | [TK]D-Fender | _x86_, Thats a little up in air right now, but it does open doors, so I'd rather spend a tad more for them. |
| 04:15.48 | teknoprep | you have to buy a battery for the power input |
| 04:15.51 | _x86_ | minus the portability |
| 04:16.14 | teknoprep | i want a damn phone |
| 04:16.17 | teknoprep | that has bluetooth |
| 04:16.26 | teknoprep | so i can use a bluetooth headset |
| 04:16.32 | _x86_ | with a desk phone? |
| 04:16.34 | _x86_ | that'd be leet |
| 04:16.35 | teknoprep | yes |
| 04:16.35 | mcf3782 | Yes. I agree there. |
| 04:16.57 | [TK]D-Fender | teknoprep, that could be an options with a USB BT adapter one day |
| 04:17.01 | teknoprep | bleh.. i want it built into the phone |
| 04:17.03 | _x86_ | yeah you can always add a plantronics bluetooth headset and lifter to any phone |
| 04:17.11 | [TK]D-Fender | jql, not practical right now... |
| 04:17.12 | UnixDog | polycom 601 next firmware release should have it |
| 04:17.19 | UnixDog | since it has a usb port |
| 04:17.24 | [TK]D-Fender | _x86_, a lifter on a Polycom.... total BS |
| 04:17.34 | [TK]D-Fender | UnixDog, not the 601.... |
| 04:17.40 | teknoprep | [TK]D-Fender, a physical lifter.. or software lifter ? |
| 04:17.41 | jql | hah, the lifter bracket for the polycom is comical |
| 04:17.46 | mcf3782 | Every piddly little cell phone made can do bluetooth these days (even the Sony Eericson crap). How hard could it be to build that into a Voip desk set?! |
| 04:17.47 | _x86_ | teknoprep: physical |
| 04:17.48 | [TK]D-Fender | teknoprep, Physical duh! |
| 04:17.51 | teknoprep | eww |
| 04:17.58 | _x86_ | never had a problem with mine ;) |
| 04:18.01 | teknoprep | i hate em |
| 04:18.04 | jql | yes. it's polycomical |
| 04:18.06 | _x86_ | no better way to do it |
| 04:18.20 | _x86_ | polycomical roffle |
| 04:18.29 | teknoprep | cisco has the software lifter |
| 04:18.33 | [TK]D-Fender | Yeah BT should be a standard on the higher-end phones... |
| 04:18.34 | teknoprep | or so whatever its called |
| 04:18.43 | teknoprep | hit the button on your headset and it answers the phone |
| 04:18.44 | jql | well... cisco rox0rz |
| 04:19.00 | _x86_ | cisco SUCKS |
| 04:19.05 | [TK]D-Fender | teknoprep, means the receiver has a wired connectio to signal the phone. |
| 04:19.12 | teknoprep | yeah i know |
| 04:19.15 | [TK]D-Fender | teknoprep, and comes at a steep price |
| 04:19.17 | teknoprep | i know what it means lol |
| 04:19.24 | jql | cisco the company sucks. cisco the hardware is sweet. :P |
| 04:19.30 | teknoprep | electronics is what i studied in the navy |
| 04:19.41 | teknoprep | i was an EOD with my first job being an AT |
| 04:20.19 | _x86_ | jql: no, cisco telephony crap is just that... CRAP |
| 04:20.40 | teknoprep | _x86_, i was thinking that.. but i like sccp |
| 04:20.59 | _x86_ | SCCP sounds tinny as hell |
| 04:21.00 | _x86_ | IMHO |
| 04:21.05 | mcf3782 | I think Cisco should stick to making network gear, and leave making phones to people like Grandstream who know what they're doing... ;) |
| 04:21.07 | teknoprep | it does a bit |
| 04:21.11 | teknoprep | but its still very good |
| 04:21.40 | mcf3782 | heheh |
| 04:21.47 | _x86_ | teknoprep: i wish someone would |
| 04:21.49 | jql | I never used sccp, so I wouldn't know if it's tinny |
| 04:21.50 | jql | heh |
| 04:22.06 | teknoprep | jql are you using the sip implementation for your cisco phones ? |
| 04:22.18 | jql | it's not plural. just one. not in production |
| 04:22.27 | teknoprep | is it sip ? |
| 04:22.31 | jql | it's my own personal status symbol; nothing more. yes, sip |
| 04:22.39 | teknoprep | would you like to try out sccp ? |
| 04:22.42 | teknoprep | i can help you with this |
| 04:22.52 | teknoprep | its quite easy |
| 04:22.55 | jql | no. it was sccp before. I went through hell "downgrading" it. :) |
| 04:23.04 | teknoprep | its REALLY easy |
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| 04:23.24 | teknoprep | i can send you all of the neccesarry files |
| 04:23.27 | GuyOCanada | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:23.33 | GuyOCanada | is a better channel mode |
| 04:23.35 | jql | heh, I can't enable sccp on it really, since it's linked to my company's official pstn servers. I can't turn sccp on for those |
| 04:23.54 | jql | I'd have to boot up a proxy |
| 04:23.56 | teknoprep | you can setup sccp for just one phone if you want |
| 04:23.56 | [TK]D-Fender | Last I heard SCCP bombs bad with NAT |
| 04:23.58 | GuyOCanada | sccp? |
| 04:24.11 | teknoprep | also sccp works well with nat |
| 04:24.12 | GuyOCanada | ~sccp |
| 04:24.12 | jbot | from memory, sccp is Proprietary protocol used between Cisco Call Manager and Cisco VOIP phones. Also supported by some other vendors. Also Signaling Connection Control Part (SCCP), a routing protocol in SS7 protocol suite in layer 4, provides end-to-end routing for TCAP messages to their proper database. |
| 04:24.19 | teknoprep | [TK]D-Fender, lol |
| 04:24.32 | [TK]D-Fender | GuyOCanada, Ciscos Crappy Communication Protocol |
| 04:24.37 | jql | I mean, I can't load mod_sccp at all on the production servers. just test servers |
| 04:24.49 | jql | err |
| 04:24.52 | teknoprep | chan_sccp.so |
| 04:24.54 | jql | chan_sccp. I have apache on the brain |
| 04:24.59 | GuyOCanada | and why do we wanna run that crappy protocol? |
| 04:25.09 | teknoprep | for cisco phones |
| 04:25.33 | [TK]D-Fender | GuyOCanada, because it makes Cisco phones less crappy than with their SIP implementation |
| 04:25.33 | GuyOCanada | bah cisco phones require that? |
| 04:25.42 | GuyOCanada | ooh |
| 04:25.50 | jql | GuyOCanada: it's more of a desire than a require |
| 04:25.53 | [TK]D-Fender | GuyOCanada, Requires no, made for and works better with = yes |
| 04:28.23 | teknoprep | i get cisco 7940 phones for $60 a peice |
| 04:28.43 | teknoprep | its really the only reason i bought them.. but i have noticed that when ppl buy polycom they rarely sell them |
| 04:28.55 | _x86_ | teknoprep: right |
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| 04:29.52 | teknoprep | i need a poe switch for my house |
| 04:30.02 | teknoprep | i am going to buy a bunch of sip phones for it |
| 04:30.12 | teknoprep | and i don't want to have to plug them in |
| 04:31.02 | _x86_ | linksys POE switches aren't too bad |
| 04:31.11 | teknoprep | yeah i put one in at a dental office |
| 04:31.11 | [TK]D-Fender | teknoprep, yeah at that price it'd be really hard to argue. Your deal is indeed phenomenal |
| 04:31.14 | _x86_ | thinking about getting me one of them |
| 04:31.41 | _x86_ | teknoprep: can you get me a 7940 for $60+shipping? |
| 04:31.43 | teknoprep | [TK]D-Fender, those phones don't have power adapters.. but i get those in at 5-10 for each |
| 04:31.59 | teknoprep | _x86_, local guy has 400 of them left from a call center that closed shop |
| 04:32.07 | [TK]D-Fender | teknoprep, Still less that any anything else close. |
| 04:32.08 | _x86_ | teknoprep: they take standard PoE right? |
| 04:32.15 | _x86_ | no need for a power brick |
| 04:32.15 | [TK]D-Fender | _x86_, lol, no |
| 04:32.21 | _x86_ | well, cisco PoE |
| 04:32.23 | [TK]D-Fender | _x86_, Cisco PoE |
| 04:32.25 | _x86_ | right |
| 04:32.25 | teknoprep | _x86_, no the 7940 is pre standard cisco poe |
| 04:32.28 | [TK]D-Fender | $$ |
| 04:32.43 | _x86_ | but still no power brick if the switch supports pre-standard cisco poe |
| 04:32.51 | lucent | Cisco doesn't do anything according to established standards, that is what I am hearing |
| 04:32.57 | teknoprep | _x86_, i was wondering if the cisco catalyst 3500 had cisco POE |
| 04:33.10 | _x86_ | 3500 is ancient |
| 04:33.19 | _x86_ | doubt PoE was even thought about at that time |
| 04:33.24 | teknoprep | lucent, there newer phones like the 7970 has standard poe |
| 04:33.36 | jql | well... it's more like: Cisco submits standards they've already implemented, and everyone else ignores them |
| 04:33.39 | teknoprep | _x86_, do you know of a switch that has POE ? |
| 04:33.44 | teknoprep | _x86_, for cisco phones |
| 04:33.53 | _x86_ | a lot of them support both standards |
| 04:33.59 | teknoprep | like ? |
| 04:34.01 | _x86_ | adtran makes them with both |
| 04:34.06 | _x86_ | so does HP |
| 04:34.10 | _x86_ | not sure if linksys does or not |
| 04:34.24 | _x86_ | I like the HP ProCurve 3500yl |
| 04:34.30 | _x86_ | that's a badass switch there |
| 04:34.37 | _x86_ | 3500yl-48-PWR |
| 04:34.38 | lucent | ah |
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| 04:35.26 | lucent | say, what would you all suggest I say to my boss, he's asked me to put on "blinders" and only focus on learning Trixbox |
| 04:35.30 | [TK]D-Fender | HP switches are real workhorses, and come with a price-tag attached of course. |
| 04:35.31 | teknoprep | the 3560 has power over ethernet |
| 04:35.40 | jql | yay, blinders! |
| 04:35.54 | [TK]D-Fender | lucent, "learning" and "Trixbox" in the same sentence... *snicker* |
| 04:35.56 | lucent | I don't know, this is not such a good idea I think, but what to say? |
| 04:36.12 | [TK]D-Fender | lucent, If he wants a toaster sure why not. |
| 04:36.13 | teknoprep | HP switches suck |
| 04:36.21 | _x86_ | [TK]D-Fender: yeah but HP switches have a lifetime warranty! |
| 04:36.24 | HybridStorm | I prefer cisco |
| 04:36.25 | jql | "Thanks for taking responsibility for any failure in our future, boss. Oh, you didn't mean...?" |
| 04:36.27 | teknoprep | does HP have a VTP structure ? |
| 04:36.28 | Qwell | lucent: if he insists on using trixbox... there are two magical words you can use |
| 04:36.31 | _x86_ | [TK]D-Fender: no annual smartnet contracts |
| 04:36.32 | Qwell | "I quit" |
| 04:36.40 | _x86_ | teknoprep: yes |
| 04:36.49 | lucent | Qwell: funny, not very realistic. Funny, though. |
| 04:36.49 | teknoprep | Qwell, trixbox isn't that bad lol |
| 04:37.00 | teknoprep | Qwell, if setup right it does the jo |
| 04:37.01 | Qwell | teknoprep: yes, yes it is |
| 04:37.02 | teknoprep | job |
| 04:37.05 | Qwell | no, no it doesn't |
| 04:37.05 | _x86_ | trixbox SUCKS |
| 04:37.19 | teknoprep | you have 10 phones? whats wrong with it? |
| 04:37.24 | teknoprep | add 10 phones |
| 04:37.26 | lucent | I don't want to start arguments here, but boss wants a turnkey distro with COMMERCIAL support |
| 04:37.31 | [TK]D-Fender | lucent, Have you looked at what Trixbox was designed to let you do, and is that what you want? |
| 04:37.34 | teknoprep | have your outbound and inbound setup... and your done |
| 04:37.35 | Qwell | lucent: switchvox |
| 04:37.38 | _x86_ | (trixbox,grandstream)-- for (;;); |
| 04:37.43 | lucent | Qwell: will check that out, thanks |
| 04:38.31 | teknoprep | hmm switchvox looks nice |
| 04:38.52 | teknoprep | Qwell, i have been using elastix lately... do you have any comments on elastix |
| 04:39.04 | Qwell | never looked at it |
| 04:39.16 | Qwell | but if it uses freepbx, it can't be that good |
| 04:39.24 | lucent | I'm leery of AsteriskNOW in beta |
| 04:40.02 | teknoprep | Qwell, you don't like freepbx aye |
| 04:40.04 | [TK]D-Fender | lucent, maybe you should clarify your needs. That might help in suggesting which way you might want to go. |
| 04:40.14 | teknoprep | Qwell, switchvox looks pretty nice |
| 04:40.40 | lucent | [TK]D-Fender: boss won't say, he goes on raving about how he was able to set up trixbox in 5 days without any knowledge, and that I must offer a compelling reason to use something else |
| 04:40.43 | jql | digium has enough money to buy it's forks. a good business model, if you can afford it. :) |
| 04:41.00 | [TK]D-Fender | lucent, 5 days for Trixbox!?!?!?! LOL! |
| 04:41.05 | Qwell | jql: forks? |
| 04:41.06 | lucent | I don't know |
| 04:41.15 | Qwell | what fork of anything have we bought? |
| 04:41.17 | [TK]D-Fender | lucent, A PBX made for idiots and it takes him 5 DAYS! |
| 04:41.33 | [TK]D-Fender | lucent, Thats so phenominally sad |
| 04:41.35 | _x86_ | hahahaha |
| 04:41.43 | lucent | I'm not disagreeing with that |
| 04:41.47 | _x86_ | there's your compelling reason that you shouldn't use it |
| 04:41.54 | jql | I said digium has the money to, and it's worth getting into the forking business |
| 04:42.00 | jql | not the digium business |
| 04:42.05 | Qwell | why would be buy a fork of anything? |
| 04:42.09 | [TK]D-Fender | lucent, So with your boss "not saying" what his needs even are its hard to sugegst what might serve you best |
| 04:42.23 | lucent | agreed. I tried asking him today and he got really pissed with me |
| 04:42.32 | jql | if you don't see the value in buying competitors, that's short-sighted |
| 04:42.38 | jql | if they're worth it |
| 04:42.42 | lucent | "what do you want" he goes on about how just because microsoft sucks, we don't stop using Windows |
| 04:42.52 | lucent | well |
| 04:42.56 | Qwell | jql: what are you talking about? |
| 04:43.08 | teknoprep | hey Qwell does switchvox work with sccp phones? |
| 04:43.12 | [TK]D-Fender | lucent, get some answers and we'll make some suggestions. |
| 04:43.13 | Qwell | teknoprep: doubt it |
| 04:43.17 | lucent | I'm asking, if I have to find a commercially in-use asterisk based distro... I think this Trixbox thing will blow over |
| 04:43.17 | teknoprep | ok |
| 04:43.32 | [TK]D-Fender | Qwell, hard to believe... its jsut 1 more config file.. |
| 04:43.45 | lucent | Switchvox looks interesting |
| 04:43.46 | Qwell | [TK]D-Fender: and one more module, and one more (buggy) thing to support |
| 04:44.01 | teknoprep | [TK]D-Fender, well i wouldn't mind doing the configs by hand |
| 04:44.09 | teknoprep | Qwell, [TK]D-Fender, well i wouldn't mind doing the configs by hand |
| 04:44.09 | [TK]D-Fender | Qwell, You are on the path to ToasterVille! |
| 04:44.11 | Qwell | I sure wouldn't be comfortable supporting it commercial - and I rewrote half of it |
| 04:44.18 | Qwell | commercially* |
| 04:44.37 | Qwell | especially not with asterisk 1.2 |
| 04:44.44 | lucent | hm |
| 04:44.57 | lucent | picking evils here, what's the most mature toaster distro? |
| 04:45.10 | teknoprep | Qwell, [TK]D-Fender , the thing i am thinking is in freepbx.. when you setup a custom extension like an sccp phone in freepbx.. you have an option for the phones extension and voicemail and everything the phone can do.... but the configuration of the phone is still setup inside of sccp.conf |
| 04:45.12 | rob0 | Wastin' away again, in Toasteritaville ... |
| 04:45.33 | Qwell | teknoprep: chan_sccp is junk, don't use it |
| 04:45.39 | lucent | ohh |
| 04:45.46 | teknoprep | Qwell, i will not agree with you on that |
| 04:45.50 | [TK]D-Fender | lucent, If you're looking for all-in-one, just cave in and take Trixbox and move on to other concerns. When you or the boss can't livel with the way it was designed to operate, come back. |
| 04:45.52 | Qwell | use chan_skinny, save yourself some headaches |
| 04:45.52 | teknoprep | Qwell, sip on cisco phones is junk |
| 04:45.59 | teknoprep | Qwell, what headaches ? |
| 04:46.00 | Qwell | teknoprep: I'm not disagreeing with that one :p |
| 04:46.00 | lucent | [TK]D-Fender: :) |
| 04:46.11 | [TK]D-Fender | rob0, Jimmey Buffet = bleh |
| 04:46.16 | teknoprep | Qwell, i found it very quick to learn .. chan_sccp.so |
| 04:46.24 | Qwell | use chan_skinny, far better, more supported |
| 04:46.28 | Qwell | not abandoned |
| 04:46.39 | [TK]D-Fender | lucent, Seriously the best option for you. |
| 04:46.45 | teknoprep | Qwell, they abandoned chan_sccp.so ? |
| 04:46.54 | Qwell | teknoprep: well over a year ago |
| 04:46.55 | [TK]D-Fender | teknoprep, you'd almost think he just said that! :p |
| 04:47.16 | teknoprep | Qwell, why is it updated for 1.4 then ? |
| 04:47.29 | Qwell | doesn't make it any less abandoned |
| 04:47.46 | Qwell | people just re-fork it every 6 months, and no progress ever gets made |
| 04:48.00 | SwK | cause qwell wanted to have more code to fix the for cli interface for :P |
| 04:48.03 | teknoprep | what else needs to be done on it ? |
| 04:48.08 | _x86_ | Qwell: is it significantly broken? |
| 04:48.17 | Qwell | _x86_: yes, and always has been |
| 04:48.23 | teknoprep | chan_sccp.so works great |
| 04:48.23 | Qwell | it has some fundamental flaws |
| 04:48.28 | _x86_ | ah |
| 04:48.59 | Qwell | you can't not update something for 12-18 months at a time, and expect it to actually work |
| 04:49.21 | teknoprep | Qwell, ? wtf are you tlaking about.. i am using it now..and it works GREAT |
| 04:49.34 | Qwell | teknoprep: try to transfer or park a call |
| 04:49.39 | teknoprep | already did |
| 04:49.39 | Qwell | try to put a call on hold |
| 04:49.43 | teknoprep | did that too |
| 04:49.45 | Qwell | it'll segfault most of the time |
| 04:49.57 | teknoprep | either by doing ##9 or by hitting the more button and then hit park |
| 04:49.59 | Qwell | (hell, making a call segfaults it half the time) |
| 04:50.02 | teknoprep | and no it never seg faults |
| 04:50.12 | teknoprep | i have only had one seg fault error |
| 04:50.18 | teknoprep | and thats when i have a phone with a faulty config |
| 04:50.24 | teknoprep | that trys to log into the system |
| 04:50.46 | _x86_ | if a phone's config can make something on the server segfault... THERE IS A FUCKING PROBLEM |
| 04:51.31 | Qwell | exactly my point |
| 04:51.41 | Qwell | it's just fundamentally broken |
| 04:52.14 | lucent | oh-snap, Digium is leading the Switchvox effort |
| 04:52.16 | lucent | ahhhh. |
| 04:52.26 | lucent | very interesting |
| 04:52.32 | Qwell | lucent: we bought them a few months ago - Oct I think it was |
| 04:52.44 | [TK]D-Fender | lucent, translation : bought by |
| 04:53.30 | _x86_ | i'm trying to find commercial support for Asterisk running Sangoma hardware |
| 04:53.39 | [TK]D-Fender | lucent, Strangely enough I meant it. Start with Trixbox, see if that shuts him up and you can both live with it. If you can, great, if you can't, at least it dodn't cost you a penny |
| 04:53.41 | Qwell | ~wglwat |
| 04:53.41 | jbot | hmm... wglwat is well, good luck with all that |
| 04:53.51 | Qwell | _x86_: ^ |
| 04:54.14 | [TK]D-Fender | _x86_, what kind of support? |
| 04:54.18 | _x86_ | Qwell: i'm just in the wrong area... if i was in chicago or some big metro area, it'd be a non-issue |
| 04:54.37 | _x86_ | [TK]D-Fender: someone my company can call if i get hit by a beer truck and the phones break |
| 04:54.56 | _x86_ | i would assume mostly remote support, but sometimes on-site i rekon |
| 04:55.15 | [TK]D-Fender | _x86_, Well remote support is always a possibility, but physical presence depends where you are, and that already doesn't sound too promising. |
| 04:55.22 | lucent | [TK]D-Fender: I hear you on that. Keeping my eye open for an alternative though. |
| 04:55.22 | _x86_ | right |
| 04:55.27 | lucent | ~book |
| 04:55.27 | jbot | Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com |
| 04:55.32 | _x86_ | even if i was running digium i couldn't find anyone local heh |
| 04:55.52 | [TK]D-Fender | lucent, Plenty of GUI's out there, but he sounds impressed and you don't have a list of needs to fill, so what the heck. |
| 04:56.29 | lucent | I got stamped with "You know Linux, you're invincible" sticker |
| 04:56.36 | lucent | yuck |
| 04:56.59 | lucent | any problem that happens can obviously be solved by running Linux on it |
| 04:57.23 | _x86_ | right! |
| 04:57.29 | mcf3782 | yep. :) |
| 04:57.44 | teknoprep | hey Qwell i setup skinny righ tnow |
| 04:57.44 | _x86_ | oh noes... the flux capacitor needs plutonium! better put linux on it! |
| 04:57.50 | teknoprep | and its making asterisk server crash |
| 04:57.51 | mcf3782 | Especially if the problem is caused by something Microsoft. ;) |
| 04:57.53 | lucent | "My mom needs her laptop with 16mb ram to browse the web, I want you to put Linux on it and make it work for her" |
| 04:57.55 | [TK]D-Fender | lucent, something I learned long ago : There's very little you can't to with really, REALLY *REALLY*...... |
| 04:57.56 | teknoprep | Qwell, lol |
| 04:58.00 | [TK]D-Fender | lucent, BIG LASERS :p |
| 04:58.16 | lucent | har |
| 04:58.33 | [TK]D-Fender | _x86_, that's what the Mr.Coffee is for :p |
| 04:58.37 | _x86_ | lucent: sounds like a really shitty place to work |
| 04:58.41 | lucent | I do appreciate all your folks' opinions |
| 04:58.52 | _x86_ | lucent: my opinion: find a better job |
| 04:59.09 | _x86_ | [TK]D-Fender: 88mph?! that's near impossible! |
| 04:59.25 | [TK]D-Fender | _x86_, You know why its 88? |
| 05:00.28 | mcf3782 | Because they only had 2 LED digits, and 99 just didn't look as cool as 88. |
| 05:00.30 | mcf3782 | :-) |
| 05:00.41 | [TK]D-Fender | mcf3782, nope, nice try though |
| 05:01.03 | mcf3782 | It was a joke, son.. you know.. a funny... HA HA. |
| 05:01.07 | mcf3782 | ;) |
| 05:01.10 | Qwell | 88mph, because that's how fast you need to go - duh |
| 05:01.12 | [TK]D-Fender | mcf3782, _x86_ : because "8" read as the symbol for "infinity" sideways twice. |
| 05:01.57 | _x86_ | [TK]D-Fender: oh nifty |
| 05:02.25 | mcf3782 | Must have been thought of by someone who also thought Cisco phones were cool too. |
| 05:02.27 | mcf3782 | ;^) |
| 05:02.46 | _x86_ | or grandstream phones too |
| 05:02.53 | mcf3782 | touche |
| 05:03.42 | teknoprep | hey Qwell you there? |
| 05:05.14 | *** join/#asterisk The_TiK (n=spaniard@adsl-65-68-74-190.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) |
| 05:06.41 | teknoprep | hey |
| 05:06.54 | teknoprep | how do i see how long asterisk has been running since last "restart gracefully" |
| 05:07.11 | teknoprep | nvm .. show uptime |
| 05:08.06 | WilliamK | anyone remember the default http path for *? |
| 05:08.19 | teknoprep | ? |
| 05:08.36 | lucent | '*'GUI ? |
| 05:08.36 | teknoprep | asterisk has a web interface? |
| 05:09.14 | [TK]D-Fender | teknoprep, No, but there are many bolt-on options. |
| 05:09.43 | [TK]D-Fender | teknoprep, CrazyGlue, duct-tape, and ritual goat sacrifice not included. |
| 05:09.43 | _x86_ | teknoprep: yes, asterisk has an http interface in 1.4 |
| 05:09.55 | _x86_ | [TK]D-Fender: asterisk does too have an http interface |
| 05:09.56 | _x86_ | nub |
| 05:10.31 | teknoprep | _x86_, lol where? |
| 05:10.41 | [TK]D-Fender | _x86_, If you are intending merely HHTP for AMI, then perhaps, though it depends on how much of an "interface" you have in mind |
| 05:11.07 | _x86_ | AJAM is pretty decent building block |
| 05:11.37 | _x86_ | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Aynchronous+Javascript+Asterisk+Manager+(AJAM) |
| 05:11.40 | [TK]D-Fender | _x86_, we already had AMI.... who cares about HTTP... |
| 05:12.12 | _x86_ | im just correcting your incorrect assertion |
| 05:12.25 | _x86_ | [TK]D-Fail |
| 05:13.30 | teknoprep | well i get my polycom phone tommorow |
| 05:13.43 | teknoprep | [TK]D-Fender, do you have a good site on setting one of these up? |
| 05:14.00 | *** join/#asterisk Maliuta (n=nikolai@ppp214-92.static.internode.on.net) |
| 05:14.02 | _x86_ | teknoprep: read the admin guide (PDF) |
| 05:14.08 | _x86_ | teknoprep: google for "polycom admin guide" |
| 05:14.18 | _x86_ | everything you need is contained therein |
| 05:15.33 | [TK]D-Fender | teknoprep, www.polycom.com . The Wiki also has a good guide on them. |
| 05:15.50 | _x86_ | teknoprep: make sure you provision them! |
| 05:16.01 | _x86_ | teknoprep: don't use the crappy phone interface to set the phones up |
| 05:16.07 | _x86_ | if you do, you fail |
| 05:17.14 | lucent | I gather that Polycom is the VoIP phone of choice for a corporate setting? |
| 05:17.20 | _x86_ | indeed |
| 05:17.28 | _x86_ | polycom is the best for any application, imho |
| 05:18.55 | [TK]D-Fender | _x86_, Not "any", but the vast majority |
| 05:19.44 | coppice | I've never used polycom IP phones (I did suffer their crapyp conferencing stuff a long time ago) but not everyone's view of polycom is so positive |
| 05:19.56 | [TK]D-Fender | lucent, they are arguably the most solid choice out there. Economics vary on this, as do specific requirements, but in most cases comes out a clear winner |
| 05:20.19 | _x86_ | yep |
| 05:20.28 | [TK]D-Fender | coppice, To you all of telecom is a gian letdown, so lets leave names out of it :) |
| 05:20.34 | lucent | the A/V integrator I subcontract as an installer to uses a lot of Polycom gear |
| 05:20.40 | *** join/#asterisk Mmurdock (n=vnjyjta@111.sub-75-227-198.myvzw.com) |
| 05:20.43 | lucent | have to agree, there's always a live person to help out |
| 05:20.49 | lucent | it's nice for support reasons |
| 05:20.53 | _x86_ | indeed |
| 05:21.32 | coppice | [TK]D-Fender: as I said, I've never used them, but I do see lots of rather negative comments, as well as great praise. I must commend them for doing something about wideband, though ;-) |
| 05:21.46 | _x86_ | coppice: never seen anything negative in here about polycom |
| 05:21.53 | [TK]D-Fender | lucent, With Polycom you will find many people here with knowledge to help you out where needed, and many of the GUI's out there can provisioning them as part of their setup |
| 05:22.22 | coppice | not here maybe, but [TK]D-Fender's sales pitch is the stromgest polycom voice here :-) |
| 05:22.41 | _x86_ | mine too |
| 05:22.55 | [TK]D-Fender | coppice, Yeah, though its like betting on the underdog like US 2008 candidate Mike Gravel. Sounds great, but simply has no chance of meaning anything to anyone. |
| 05:23.00 | coppice | polycom sucks here, just from the pricing they use in asia |
| 05:23.07 | _x86_ | and like 10 other unpaid polycom sales reps that hang out here too |
| 05:23.07 | rob0 | But ... but ... he doesn't like Jimmy Buffett! |
| 05:23.36 | [TK]D-Fender | rob0, Campy loser accoustic beer songs. |
| 05:23.49 | jql | well, everyone in the debat might die one day |
| 05:23.49 | [TK]D-Fender | rob0, Go look up some real artists :) |
| 05:23.54 | jql | and gravel is locked out |
| 05:24.06 | jql | and, we *have* to pick kang or kodos |
| 05:24.07 | [TK]D-Fender | jql, yup... |
| 05:24.13 | jql | so, there ya go |
| 05:24.18 | coppice | is Jimmy Buffett any relation to Warren? :-) |
| 05:25.16 | [TK]D-Fender | jql, I took a survey on-line to pick the top 3 candidates that fit my answers. It gave me (in order) : Kucinich, Gravel, an Paul. Not a bad pick... |
| 05:25.38 | [TK]D-Fender | coppice, No but either being all-you-can-eat still comes out "hard to swallow" ;) |
| 05:26.23 | coppice | the other day someone told me Dan Folgelberg had died, and all I could do was struggle to remember which crappy song from years ago he sang. I failed. |
| 05:26.28 | [TK]D-Fender | jql, I might put Gravel first, but that kind of idealism just isn't practical. |
| 05:26.37 | rob0 | did he really? wow. |
| 05:26.38 | [TK]D-Fender | coppice, lol :) |
| 05:26.46 | jql | I already registered republican for paul. too late for me |
| 05:27.45 | [TK]D-Fender | jql, How does "registering" work anyways? Isn't everything up in the air until the real vote? Or is it that you basically picked "GOP" and he's the only one you'd vote for? |
| 05:28.04 | coppice | people complain about lying politicians, but if a president actually did what he/she/it said he/she/it was going to do, there would be a revolution |
| 05:28.05 | jql | well, you get a different ballot in the primary |
| 05:28.19 | jql | kinda depends on your state |
| 05:28.32 | jql | in the general, it doesn't matter at all |
| 05:28.58 | jql | but yeah, I picked GOP, and there's nobody else to vote for. heh |
| 05:29.07 | [TK]D-Fender | coppice, US 2008 has 3 people who are actually capable of serious change... assuming they live long enough |
| 05:29.13 | coppice | so you register en mass for the party you don't like, and try to get a really sucky candidate into the final election :-) |
| 05:29.32 | jql | coppice: it's a tradition as old as the primary election. :) |
| 05:29.39 | [TK]D-Fender | jql : indeed. my 2 Dem picks I would be thrilled to see on the final ballot. |
| 05:29.54 | jql | I liked it better when candidates were selected in a smoky room by a group of rich white guys |
| 05:30.19 | [TK]D-Fender | jql, Why do you think Hillary & Giuliani are still running... |
| 05:30.19 | rob0 | It still basically is like that. |
| 05:30.29 | coppice | jql: yeah, but both sides do this, which is why the final choice is always between two people you'd trust so much, you'd count your fingers after a handshake |
| 05:30.47 | jql | if only Kerry was running again... |
| 05:31.14 | [TK]D-Fender | Romney is loaded as well, but has a full deck against him, and Huckabee will tank with any luck. |
| 05:31.19 | [TK]D-Fender | jql, What of the masses begging Gore to run? |
| 05:31.30 | coppice | jgl: I thought that was the electoral college system they use now :-) |
| 05:31.30 | jql | I predicted Romney for the Rs way back in August |
| 05:31.34 | jql | still sticking with it |
| 05:31.52 | [TK]D-Fender | jql, As running to the final ballot? |
| 05:32.06 | jql | yeah, as the nominee |
| 05:32.26 | jql | he's the only one with money (besides Paul) |
| 05:32.31 | [TK]D-Fender | jql, Mormon is a minus, his policy another. He's got dirt. |
| 05:33.01 | coppice | a dirty mormon - excellent news media material :-) |
| 05:33.32 | [TK]D-Fender | jql, So far my top 3 really don't have any dirt to be dug up from what it seems. Only their "quirkiness" counts against them, and the 2 bigger guns have real money, experience and following. |
| 05:33.39 | coppice | I like the Onion thing about the bullshit ratings of all the candidates |
| 05:33.48 | [TK]D-Fender | jql, I could live with Obama if only for the fact he's "mostly harmless" |
| 05:34.22 | [TK]D-Fender | coppice, I love how professional the Onion looks.... kinda scary at times that the uninformed take it as actual news |
| 05:34.23 | jql | I like Paul over Kucinich because he has an even longer record to run on. The man is unimpeachable (in one sense, not the other) |
| 05:35.00 | [TK]D-Fender | jql, I would be thrilled to see any of my 3 take office. |
| 05:35.55 | The_TiK | sorry to interupt your discussion but I was wondering if you guys had any ideas for fun stuff to do with asterisk |
| 05:36.01 | jql | viva la revolucion |
| 05:36.18 | rob0 | Call up presidential campaign offices? |
| 05:36.18 | The_TiK | ive got flite saying chuck norris quotes right now...looking for something else to do |
| 05:36.19 | [TK]D-Fender | jql, indeed. |
| 05:36.26 | jql | The_TiK: war dialing is fun. caller-id spoofing is fun (why is "666" calling me. AGAIN???) |
| 05:36.31 | coppice | thrills are the last thing you want from a president |
| 05:36.53 | The_TiK | jql:ive done the callerid spoofing...it is fun :) |
| 05:37.00 | [TK]D-Fender | The_TiK, go look "tt-weasels" for telemarketers. Go make a weather script. Go buy some X-10 gear and dial up some coffee. |
| 05:37.01 | jql | DTMF-powered jukebox is fun |
| 05:37.30 | The_TiK | ok, thanks |
| 05:37.53 | [TK]D-Fender | coppice, BS. After GWB invaded Iraq, you can hardly imagine the lineup of people willing to line up to suck Clinton's knob to get him back... |
| 05:38.25 | jql | setting up call-files and cron jobs to call your parents isn't so much fun as it is depressing |
| 05:39.13 | coppice | a good president is always in much greater danger of impeachment. a loony creates too much activity for people to focus on core values - like impeaching for any hair brained reason |
| 05:43.47 | coppice | a president has little to loose by starting wars. It is very hard for a ruler fighting a war to loose an election. Mrs Thatcher was a classic example. heading for a historic catastrophic defeat in the election, she screwed up and had an unnecessary war with argentina, and got a landslide victory |
| 05:44.35 | rob0 | I couldn't really blame her for that, as much as I would have liked to. |
| 05:44.58 | jql | ending a war is also the kiss of death. churchill, nixon, bush I. Dewey even defeated Truman kinda. |
| 05:45.36 | coppice | she was entirely to blame. they gave argentina quite string signals there would be no response to an invasion of the falklands |
| 05:45.43 | [TK]D-Fender | jql, Then again... those were also collosal douchebags in their own right... coincidence I say :) |
| 05:46.33 | jql | rampant douchebaggery is the hallmark of politicos |
| 05:48.44 | [TK]D-Fender | jql, Yeah, but such candidates for live-action "Animal Farm" are really special. |
| 05:49.06 | rob0 | coppice, oh, I didn't hear that. Sounds like Bush Sr. and Kuwait. |
| 05:51.24 | jql | these false "signals" are why leaders shouldn't appoint sycophants as ambassadors |
| 05:54.56 | *** join/#asterisk TJNII_Away (n=tom@76.76.79.45) |
| 05:57.02 | [TK]D-Fender | Alrighty.... bed dtime. |
| 05:57.04 | [TK]D-Fender | time8 |
| 05:57.06 | [TK]D-Fender | later all. |
| 05:58.01 | *** part/#asterisk mcf3782 (n=mcf3782@adsl-065-012-184-148.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) |
| 05:58.13 | coppice | rob0: the argentinians invaded South Georgia to test the waters. the response they got - almost none - must have seemed a pretty clear indicator to proceed with the Falklands |
| 05:59.55 | *** join/#asterisk tobias (n=tobias@nat1.ppckernel.org) |
| 06:08.32 | *** join/#asterisk techie (n=techie@adsl-76-214-31-16.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net) |
| 06:10.45 | HybridStorm | Does anyone have a way to make a fully sip asterisk box redundant? |
| 06:22.09 | *** part/#asterisk techie (n=techie@adsl-76-214-31-16.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net) |
| 06:31.43 | GuyOCanada | why would someone put cronjobs to call their parents? |
| 06:33.23 | drmessano | Thats probably the best application for asterisk, ever |
| 06:33.49 | TJNII_Away | GuyOCanada, I know someone who does that |
| 06:33.58 | GuyOCanada | :d well if you can make asterisk talk in your voice and respond to questions :D ok that would be nice maybe |
| 06:34.07 | drmessano | No. no |
| 06:34.08 | GuyOCanada | TJNII why does he/she do that? |
| 06:34.28 | TJNII_Away | It checks to see if he has been reading his email, and plays your son may/may not be dead depending on the status |
| 06:34.46 | drmessano | Have it call your parents when you know they're at work.. and play a message.. "hey mom (dad).. um just called to say I love you.. Guess I will call back next week" |
| 06:34.49 | drmessano | and done.. |
| 06:34.52 | drmessano | No more guilt |
| 06:34.58 | TJNII_Away | Apparently he doesn't call his parents very often. He said it was his father's idea |
| 06:35.16 | TJNII_Away | drmessano, .... BRILLIANT! |
| 06:35.16 | GuyOCanada | :D oh well thats a nice idea |
| 06:35.23 | GuyOCanada | i can doo that |
| 06:35.31 | GuyOCanada | I really hate talking to my father on the phone |
| 06:35.38 | drmessano | ROFL |
| 06:35.38 | GuyOCanada | since we started using voip |
| 06:35.39 | drmessano | See |
| 06:35.48 | GuyOCanada | he calls me and when i pickup |
| 06:35.53 | GuyOCanada | he talks and talks and talks |
| 06:36.00 | GuyOCanada | the last time it was 3 hours and 45 minutes :S |
| 06:36.19 | drmessano | One of those "Let me give you an ext on my PBX" deals? |
| 06:36.32 | GuyOCanada | nope |
| 06:36.36 | drmessano | Oh |
| 06:36.41 | GuyOCanada | he still uses skype I would never give him an extension to my pbx |
| 06:36.46 | drmessano | LOL |
| 06:36.52 | GuyOCanada | or he would call me every 2 seconds |
| 06:36.57 | drmessano | My father has one on mine.. its horrible |
| 06:37.02 | GuyOCanada | he only calls me when he sees me on skype |
| 06:37.12 | GuyOCanada | which is maybe twice a week or so |
| 06:37.24 | drmessano | Dad calls me when eBay is down |
| 06:37.40 | GuyOCanada | lol to do what? |
| 06:37.43 | drmessano | lol |
| 06:37.56 | drmessano | Because I have a server at his house, so he thinks I control his internet |
| 06:38.04 | GuyOCanada | :) |
| 06:38.09 | drmessano | "Doesnt it all go through your server?" |
| 06:38.27 | lucent | okay. that deserves a 'lol' |
| 06:38.33 | drmessano | If it did, I would have pornd running on there saving his bandwidth |
| 06:38.42 | GuyOCanada | :) |
| 06:38.54 | GuyOCanada | ~pornd |
| 06:39.05 | GuyOCanada | @google pornd |
| 06:39.09 | drmessano | lol |
| 06:39.12 | arctanx | There are worse people. A friend of mine's mum tried to get her glasses changed from metal frames to plastic frames because she heard that metal frames pick up the radiation from the monitor and give you cancer |
| 06:39.25 | drmessano | ROFL |
| 06:39.49 | drmessano | Oh, I got one.. |
| 06:39.56 | GuyOCanada | well i had to install ipcop at home |
| 06:40.25 | GuyOCanada | because my sister was downloading so much shitty stuff and had some spyware |
| 06:40.29 | GuyOCanada | attacking my router :) |
| 06:40.37 | drmessano | My father bought a digital camera and it had unsigned Windows XP drivers.. so he googled for the error and disabled the unsigned drivers warning in the registry |
| 06:40.43 | lucent | :) I introduced myself to IPCop recently |
| 06:40.54 | lucent | not sure yet how to limit the rate of LimeWire |
| 06:41.06 | GuyOCanada | lucent its easy |
| 06:41.34 | lucent | there's no port ranges allowed in QoS! |
| 06:41.41 | arctanx | drmessano: kudos to your dad |
| 06:41.42 | lucent | sorry guys, off topic |
| 06:41.43 | lucent | heh |
| 06:41.48 | drmessano | lol |
| 06:42.02 | GuyOCanada | limewire users ip is 192.168.1.5 lets say you set up ipcop or other things and say 192.168.1.5 all ports rate 1kb/second except port 80 :) |
| 06:42.07 | drmessano | It scared the crap out of me.. hes is NOT a tech.. |
| 06:42.11 | drmessano | he* |
| 06:42.21 | lucent | GuyOCanada: ohhh... makes sense |
| 06:42.24 | drmessano | "You were in the...... wait... what?" |
| 06:42.37 | drmessano | lol |
| 06:43.00 | GuyOCanada | I have a question |
| 06:43.01 | drmessano | 5.6kb/s |
| 06:43.07 | drmessano | Thats all anyone needs |
| 06:43.11 | lucent | "you know the registry thing, I couldn't find copy and the paste" |
| 06:43.22 | drmessano | lol |
| 06:43.29 | GuyOCanada | lets say i buy a linksys voip to analog phone converter stuff |
| 06:43.55 | GuyOCanada | i connect it to my internet connection at my home |
| 06:44.20 | GuyOCanada | and also connect it to phone system i have at home (old fashioned pbx) |
| 06:45.07 | GuyOCanada | can i do this: i call the box using sip and can get out to the normal pstn network? |
| 06:45.15 | lucent | yeah |
| 06:45.27 | lucent | tell the outbound route to dial 9 or whatever on top of the outbound number |
| 06:45.30 | lucent | right? |
| 06:45.33 | GuyOCanada | yes |
| 06:45.44 | GuyOCanada | and also someone at home |
| 06:45.52 | GuyOCanada | can dial my extension |
| 06:45.53 | lucent | I read about this working, have not tried it myself |
| 06:45.55 | drmessano | SPA3102 will do it |
| 06:46.02 | drmessano | 1 FXO, 1 FXS |
| 06:46.02 | GuyOCanada | and they can talk to me ? |
| 06:46.17 | GuyOCanada | well the thing is |
| 06:46.34 | GuyOCanada | I actually live in Turkey but I am studying in Canada |
| 06:46.47 | GuyOCanada | and it will be like that for the next 4 years i think |
| 06:47.02 | GuyOCanada | and calling turkey with any voip provider costs really much |
| 06:47.14 | GuyOCanada | there is a big difference between calling from my home phone |
| 06:47.28 | drmessano | Your home PBX.. how many exts? |
| 06:48.02 | GuyOCanada | 6 external (3 used) 18 or 24 internal but only 12 of them are used |
| 06:48.23 | drmessano | You live in a mansion? |
| 06:48.33 | drmessano | Are you the prince? |
| 06:48.36 | drmessano | lol |
| 06:48.38 | GuyOCanada | :) lol |
| 06:48.46 | GuyOCanada | WELL no a big family |
| 06:48.54 | drmessano | Youre telling me |
| 06:48.59 | lucent | look, James Bond is coming up on the driveway |
| 06:49.06 | GuyOCanada | haha yeah :P |
| 06:49.11 | GuyOCanada | well |
| 06:49.13 | lucent | hide the other 12 extensions |
| 06:49.18 | drmessano | Asterisk will protect you |
| 06:49.37 | drmessano | lol |
| 06:49.38 | GuyOCanada | I asked my father if i can throw the hardware pbx away |
| 06:49.40 | lucent | sorry. lame I know |
| 06:49.42 | GuyOCanada | and asterisk the house :) |
| 06:49.44 | GuyOCanada | he said no :( |
| 06:50.04 | lucent | you would be doing VoIP phones too? |
| 06:50.07 | drmessano | GuyOCanada, old boss was like that too |
| 06:50.13 | drmessano | They fired him |
| 06:50.16 | drmessano | So, fire your dad |
| 06:50.18 | lucent | what kind of TDM does 12 lines |
| 06:50.25 | GuyOCanada | drmessano: no need to fire |
| 06:50.35 | GuyOCanada | I just dont give him an extension on my asterisk |
| 06:50.44 | drmessano | I didnt mean firing squad.. |
| 06:50.44 | GuyOCanada | lucent you dont need a tdm |
| 06:50.51 | GuyOCanada | you can use adapters |
| 06:51.30 | GuyOCanada | or maybe he was scared of my project :)( |
| 06:51.38 | lucent | oh one per phone then? I don't know |
| 06:51.55 | lucent | boss has me using a VegaStream 50 FXS (8fxs 2fxo) |
| 06:52.29 | GuyOCanada | I have a question about the SPA3102 |
| 06:52.31 | drmessano | GuyOCanada... you just need some cool AGI scripts to convince dad to convert |
| 06:52.33 | GuyOCanada | anyone using it |
| 06:52.40 | GuyOCanada | drmessano: for example? |
| 06:52.44 | lucent | not I |
| 06:52.58 | drmessano | Like on that fetches stock prices from the US Exchanges, or the Nikkei (sp?) |
| 06:53.01 | lucent | there's in-depth guides on configuring the SPA3102 for '*' |
| 06:53.28 | lucent | I used some of said guides for helping me to configure the Vega |
| 06:53.33 | lucent | so they must be working |
| 06:54.53 | GuyOCanada | drmessano |
| 06:55.10 | drmessano | yes |
| 06:55.19 | GuyOCanada | I wanted to integrate the house security stem with asterisk :) maybe that was his fear :P |
| 06:55.39 | GuyOCanada | i will talk to him when im back there probably 6 months later |
| 06:55.44 | drmessano | yeah |
| 06:56.25 | drmessano | Some people fear Voip |
| 06:56.32 | drmessano | It confuses them |
| 06:56.38 | GuyOCanada | well SPA3102 has an FXO and FXS right |
| 06:56.51 | drmessano | Trick is to wow them with it. Those that are afraid are usually wow'ed easily |
| 06:56.52 | drmessano | Yes |
| 06:56.53 | GuyOCanada | so this means i need two extensions ? |
| 06:57.35 | GuyOCanada | on my old pbx |
| 06:57.36 | drmessano | Your asterisk box is going to be where? |
| 06:57.56 | GuyOCanada | the asterisk is in germany on a dedicated server |
| 06:58.12 | GuyOCanada | i will have a soft or hardware phone in canada |
| 06:58.23 | GuyOCanada | the SPA3102 will be in turkey at my home |
| 06:58.42 | GuyOCanada | with no other asterisk capable eqiupments in that house :) (people fear of them) |
| 06:59.01 | drmessano | Well, depends how you do it |
| 06:59.14 | drmessano | You can use the FXS as an outgoing line on the PBX |
| 06:59.21 | drmessano | You can use the FXS as an outgoing line on the Old PBX |
| 06:59.52 | GuyOCanada | well ok let me give more information |
| 06:59.57 | GuyOCanada | my scenario is this: |
| 07:00.17 | GuyOCanada | lets say my extension on my old pbx is 15 |
| 07:01.06 | GuyOCanada | someone from the house calls 15 or someone redirects an incoming call from outside to 15 it will be redirected to asterisk and from asterisk to my extension 100 |
| 07:01.57 | GuyOCanada | secnario 2: I will call extension 105 (which will be the spa3102) then i will dial anyone at home or i will dial 9 and get an make an outgoing call from my old pbx |
| 07:02.59 | drmessano | Well, SPA3102 needs standard pstn signaling to work |
| 07:03.12 | drmessano | What sort of phones does the lucent use |
| 07:03.55 | GuyOCanada | lucent? |
| 07:04.42 | lucent | boss has pstn |
| 07:04.58 | lucent | I don't have VoIP at my own place here |
| 07:05.18 | lucent | configuring everything via VPN for boss |
| 07:05.56 | lucent | isn't FXO typically outgoing? |
| 07:05.57 | drmessano | GuyOCanada, sorry.. half asleep here |
| 07:06.04 | drmessano | What sort of PBX is that is home? |
| 07:06.11 | GuyOCanada | one sec |
| 07:06.11 | drmessano | is that at home |
| 07:06.14 | drmessano | ok |
| 07:06.15 | GuyOCanada | yes |
| 07:06.32 | lucent | what impedence in Turkey? |
| 07:06.33 | drmessano | I dont think you can connect the SPA3102 as an extension to your home PBX |
| 07:06.55 | drmessano | I think you would need to use an outgoing line on the Home PBX to the FXS of the SPA3102 |
| 07:07.08 | drmessano | Which the PBX would see as a line |
| 07:07.37 | drmessano | They would dial 8 or something to grab that line, and dial your extension on * |
| 07:07.57 | drmessano | You would dial that extension from * and it would ring into the analog PBX at home |
| 07:08.14 | drmessano | Which means you could use an FXS only device.. like a PAP2T |
| 07:09.32 | GuyOCanada | i think its this one http://www.karel.com.tr/english/product_detail.jsp?id=72 |
| 07:10.03 | drmessano | Ah |
| 07:10.25 | drmessano | You could program the Analog PBX with a route to your Voip adapter |
| 07:10.33 | GuyOCanada | its not a bad product |
| 07:10.34 | drmessano | Say give it a dummy extension of 32 |
| 07:10.39 | GuyOCanada | yes |
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| 07:10.53 | drmessano | and it grabs the outside line and passes 32 |
| 07:11.03 | drmessano | Which would be your * extension |
| 07:11.12 | GuyOCanada | *? |
| 07:11.16 | drmessano | Asterisk |
| 07:11.35 | GuyOCanada | ok |
| 07:11.45 | GuyOCanada | sorry for that :) |
| 07:11.51 | drmessano | When you dial 32, it would ring into the PBX |
| 07:12.09 | drmessano | So you would need an IVR or something from which you would dial their extension |
| 07:12.39 | drmessano | err |
| 07:12.46 | drmessano | Sorry, scratch that last bit |
| 07:12.48 | GuyOCanada | well cant i connect both the FXO and FXS ports to the pbx? |
| 07:12.55 | GuyOCanada | using two extensions? |
| 07:13.04 | GuyOCanada | one incoming one outgoing or whatsoever |
| 07:13.08 | drmessano | FXO cant connect to it |
| 07:13.15 | GuyOCanada | ok |
| 07:13.29 | drmessano | FXO would need to see a pstn line |
| 07:13.39 | drmessano | FXS looks like a line |
| 07:13.51 | drmessano | So the FXO would a pseudo outgoing line on the pBX |
| 07:14.07 | drmessano | So they would dial 32 and it would pass to that outgoing line and dial 32 |
| 07:14.11 | drmessano | Calling your ext in Canada |
| 07:14.16 | drmessano | Then you would dial say 33 |
| 07:14.24 | drmessano | and it would ring the FXS port at home |
| 07:14.30 | drmessano | into the PBX |
| 07:14.38 | drmessano | From where you could dial any ext |
| 07:15.01 | GuyOCanada | but i dont have an IVR chip at home |
| 07:15.18 | drmessano | What happens if you call the PBX from aland line? |
| 07:15.22 | drmessano | What happens if you call the PBX from land line? |
| 07:15.27 | drmessano | The one at home |
| 07:15.29 | drmessano | Direct lines? |
| 07:17.34 | GuyOCanada | ok i have to 3 lines |
| 07:17.38 | GuyOCanada | landlines |
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| 07:18.06 | GuyOCanada | ending 60,61,62 and they are pbx at the provider if 60 is busy it goes to 61 and so on |
| 07:18.07 | drmessano | ok |
| 07:18.15 | drmessano | Ok |
| 07:18.15 | GuyOCanada | i also have an FCT terminal |
| 07:18.24 | GuyOCanada | which i have a GSM card a cellular line |
| 07:18.39 | GuyOCanada | and when you call any of those 4 lines |
| 07:18.43 | drmessano | So this would be another line that would ring into your PBX then |
| 07:19.05 | GuyOCanada | simultaniously extension 20,22,15 are ringing |
| 07:19.12 | drmessano | ok |
| 07:19.19 | GuyOCanada | anyone from those 3 numbers |
| 07:19.22 | *** join/#asterisk dacs (n=haiger@unaffiliated/dacs) |
| 07:19.23 | GuyOCanada | can picup the phone |
| 07:19.31 | drmessano | You just need to set up behavior from the FXS device then |
| 07:19.35 | GuyOCanada | or anyone else from any other extension you can dial 3 and pickup |
| 07:19.39 | drmessano | Like you would route any line |
| 07:20.12 | drmessano | Id say its pretty simple |
| 07:20.56 | GuyOCanada | ok |
| 07:21.22 | GuyOCanada | well here is the thing |
| 07:21.35 | GuyOCanada | which i dont understand |
| 07:22.18 | GuyOCanada | at home I have an analog phone with the extension lets say 11 |
| 07:22.40 | GuyOCanada | someone dials 11 my phone rings |
| 07:22.49 | GuyOCanada | i open and start talking |
| 07:22.49 | drmessano | You can not hook a device to your phone system that will pretend to be a PBX phone |
| 07:23.03 | GuyOCanada | then i hang up |
| 07:23.25 | GuyOCanada | pick up the phone and have a dial tone from the pbx |
| 07:23.33 | drmessano | What youre asking for in that scenario is a device that pretends to be a PBX phone |
| 07:24.04 | drmessano | Your PBX phone is not a Wal Mart phone.. theres more to it |
| 07:24.12 | GuyOCanada | yes it is |
| 07:24.19 | drmessano | It is? |
| 07:24.22 | GuyOCanada | yes |
| 07:24.26 | GuyOCanada | its a normal regular phone |
| 07:24.33 | GuyOCanada | all my phones at home are |
| 07:24.36 | GuyOCanada | 5 - 20 $ |
| 07:24.37 | GuyOCanada | not more |
| 07:24.50 | dacs | which * release is stable or you guy recommand? |
| 07:24.59 | drmessano | Ok |
| 07:25.33 | drmessano | My bad then.. Didnt look like that thing used pots phones |
| 07:25.54 | drmessano | If indeed it does, then you can use the FXO on a SPA3102 wired to it |
| 07:26.17 | GuyOCanada | hmm |
| 07:26.31 | GuyOCanada | well yes it uses the plain old telephony system |
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| 07:27.29 | drmessano | On the phones |
| 07:27.34 | drmessano | Not the incoming lines |
| 07:27.49 | GuyOCanada | well yes |
| 07:28.04 | drmessano | You can take an extension phone and plug it right into the wall? |
| 07:28.04 | GuyOCanada | yes i can |
| 07:28.05 | drmessano | ok |
| 07:28.09 | drmessano | Then youre set |
| 07:28.15 | GuyOCanada | the two cables from the wall go to the pbx |
| 07:28.20 | GuyOCanada | its powered from the pbx |
| 07:28.20 | dacs | for a newbie which * ver is recommanded please? any suggestions |
| 07:28.29 | GuyOCanada | dacs: the stable version |
| 07:28.51 | dacs | GuyOCanada: which is ver ? |
| 07:28.57 | GuyOCanada | dacs |
| 07:28.59 | GuyOCanada | www.asterisk.org |
| 07:29.18 | drmessano | Ok |
| 07:29.18 | drmessano | No |
| 07:29.28 | GuyOCanada | click on downlods |
| 07:29.42 | drmessano | Let me try this differently |
| 07:29.48 | drmessano | If I buy a regular phone |
| 07:29.53 | drmessano | From the store |
| 07:29.57 | drmessano | I can use it on that PBX? |
| 07:30.01 | GuyOCanada | yes you can |
| 07:30.10 | drmessano | Like a regular sony, GE, whatever phone |
| 07:30.11 | GuyOCanada | you just have to find an empty spot in my home :D |
| 07:30.15 | GuyOCanada | whatever you want |
| 07:30.25 | drmessano | Ok |
| 07:30.26 | GuyOCanada | i prefer GE |
| 07:30.37 | drmessano | Then the FXO port on the SPA-3102 will work |
| 07:30.39 | GuyOCanada | but it really does not matter |
| 07:30.45 | drmessano | Because its looking for a POTS line |
| 07:30.51 | drmessano | and in that case it will see it |
| 07:31.08 | GuyOCanada | http://www.efarmoges.gr/karel/store/docs/karel_pdf/ms48/48inst.pdf |
| 07:31.22 | drmessano | So it can very well act as an extension |
| 07:31.33 | dacs | GuyOCanada: it doesn't say which one is stable |
| 07:31.44 | GuyOCanada | dacs |
| 07:32.11 | GuyOCanada | wait |
| 07:32.42 | dacs | should i get *NOW? |
| 07:33.20 | GuyOCanada | dacs |
| 07:33.22 | WilliamK | anyone successfully have the directory working on a 79xx series phone that's on *? |
| 07:33.26 | GuyOCanada | what are you trying to do? |
| 07:33.33 | drmessano | dacs |
| 07:33.53 | drmessano | Do you want asterisk or a trixbox/elastix all in one bundle? |
| 07:34.05 | drmessano | Youre not being clear |
| 07:34.24 | drmessano | Asterisk 1.4 is stable as far as I know.. I mean.. I make calls on it.. it works |
| 07:34.33 | GuyOCanada | drmessano: are you looking to the pdf? |
| 07:34.38 | drmessano | Yeah |
| 07:34.53 | GuyOCanada | page 14 |
| 07:35.17 | dacs | drmessano: this will be my first time to install it, so do you suggest it for a newbie |
| 07:35.35 | drmessano | Dacs: Depends on what you want |
| 07:35.59 | drmessano | If you want a single CD install and plug n play, theres several out there |
| 07:36.06 | GuyOCanada | and page 30 |
| 07:36.09 | drmessano | I would suggest learning Asterisk and rolling your own |
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| 07:37.21 | GuyOCanada | my look like fulya on page 30 but are normal dtmf phones |
| 07:37.28 | drmessano | AHHHH |
| 07:37.41 | drmessano | So they just have different wiring for the feature phone then |
| 07:37.48 | drmessano | phones* |
| 07:39.05 | GuyOCanada | yes |
| 07:39.12 | GuyOCanada | the console phones use 6 wires |
| 07:39.16 | GuyOCanada | or 4 wires |
| 07:39.20 | drmessano | Should be no problem then |
| 07:39.23 | GuyOCanada | the normal standard phones (extensions use 2) |
| 07:40.14 | GuyOCanada | so in that case what device should i get? maybe a cheaper one that does not have the FXS port which i dont need or a better one just for my scenario :)? |
| 07:44.05 | drmessano | You cant get a 1 FXO device |
| 07:44.10 | drmessano | Not an ATA |
| 07:44.20 | drmessano | SPA-3102 is the best youre gonna do |
| 07:44.29 | dacs | drmessano: if i only want to use ATA and not an FXO |
| 07:44.48 | drmessano | What? |
| 07:45.27 | drmessano | You want like a FXS box..? |
| 07:45.48 | drmessano | Linksys PAP2T or whatever the new little 2 port is |
| 07:45.59 | drmessano | SPA-2002 I think |
| 07:47.18 | GuyOCanada | lol drmessano |
| 07:47.36 | GuyOCanada | i will tell you something but promise not to kill me :P |
| 07:47.47 | _x86_ | ? |
| 07:47.53 | GuyOCanada | :) |
| 07:47.54 | _x86_ | sekrits! |
| 07:47.56 | drmessano | Sure |
| 07:48.00 | drmessano | Do tell |
| 07:48.07 | GuyOCanada | _x86_ go away i dont like x86 i like x64 :P |
| 07:48.10 | GuyOCanada | ok |
| 07:48.14 | _x86_ | lamer |
| 07:48.22 | GuyOCanada | ur a lamer |
| 07:48.23 | GuyOCanada | anyways |
| 07:48.37 | drmessano | The lines with the regular phones are direct wired |
| 07:48.44 | drmessano | Not thru the PBX |
| 07:48.53 | GuyOCanada | no, |
| 07:48.57 | drmessano | Hmm |
| 07:49.02 | drmessano | Ok, youve been messing with me? |
| 07:49.14 | GuyOCanada | i went to google seraching on turkish sites to check who sells the SPA-3102 and the price and i went to the first site |
| 07:49.18 | drmessano | lol |
| 07:49.22 | GuyOCanada | and it says |
| 07:49.45 | GuyOCanada | with its FXO support you can connect it to your internal pbx and let all your employees enjoy voip :P |
| 07:49.55 | drmessano | lol |
| 07:50.06 | drmessano | Yeah.. no |
| 07:50.23 | drmessano | Here the rule of thumb |
| 07:50.37 | drmessano | If you can connect a $9 wal mart/dollar store phone to it |
| 07:50.53 | drmessano | FXO device will work |
| 07:51.20 | GuyOCanada | ok |
| 07:51.29 | drmessano | My Samsung PBX at work |
| 07:51.35 | drmessano | If I connected a SPA3102 |
| 07:51.37 | drmessano | It would melt |
| 07:51.45 | drmessano | Like, ball of goo |
| 07:52.09 | drmessano | Maybe not a "ball" |
| 07:52.17 | drmessano | that would take controlled congealment |
| 07:52.58 | GuyOCanada | why? |
| 07:53.41 | drmessano | I dont remember the specs, but the wiring on the PBX is odd and the power is in a weird place |
| 07:53.58 | drmessano | I know people have connected answering machines to it, with limited goo-ment |
| 07:54.08 | GuyOCanada | :S |
| 07:54.13 | GuyOCanada | who would need an answering machine |
| 07:54.19 | drmessano | lol |
| 07:54.20 | GuyOCanada | IN AN office |
| 07:54.23 | GuyOCanada | use asterisk :P |
| 07:54.25 | drmessano | lol |
| 07:54.35 | drmessano | We may be switching to asterisk |
| 07:54.40 | GuyOCanada | i need some cool AGI scripts, can anyone point me in a direction |
| 07:54.47 | drmessano | My old boss was not an IT guy.. and hes no longer with us |
| 07:54.59 | drmessano | So now I get the run of the place |
| 07:55.08 | drmessano | and we're getting more asterisk in 2008 lol |
| 07:55.59 | GuyOCanada | well i still couln't decide what ip phone i should get :( |
| 07:56.58 | drmessano | Get a Cisco, then set an auto message in here "Help, I need help with sccp... :(" to run every hour |
| 07:57.08 | GuyOCanada | :) |
| 07:57.08 | drmessano | You'll have it working in a day or less |
| 07:57.23 | GuyOCanada | aND Be oN The +b |
| 07:58.40 | GuyOCanada | how do you setup the spa3102 |
| 07:58.50 | drmessano | Well |
| 07:58.52 | GuyOCanada | and its dialing plan |
| 07:59.21 | drmessano | Get one and then ask me.. I have a method of doing with it simply being regged to Asterisk |
| 07:59.29 | drmessano | No flaky dialplans in the SPA3102 |
| 07:59.34 | drmessano | No weird setups |
| 08:00.02 | drmessano | I have mine working at my office at work, regged to my PBX at home |
| 08:00.15 | drmessano | and I can answer my phone here, and make calls over my direct line at work, from here |
| 08:00.15 | GuyOCanada | well IM asking it because |
| 08:00.36 | GuyOCanada | I will buy it from a turkish site and let them deliver to my father so he can plug it in and set it up |
| 08:00.56 | drmessano | Well |
| 08:00.59 | GuyOCanada | is it easy to setup or will i be in need of remote desktoping and seting it up or vpn ing :) |
| 08:01.16 | drmessano | Can he manipulate a Linksys web interface? |
| 08:01.54 | GuyOCanada | well not sure but he can read me what he sees |
| 08:01.59 | drmessano | Ok |
| 08:02.00 | GuyOCanada | and i can help him what to enter |
| 08:02.02 | drmessano | Well |
| 08:02.06 | GuyOCanada | if it has a web interface its not a big deal |
| 08:02.22 | drmessano | You can set the IP address via a phone connected to the FXS port, using DTMF |
| 08:02.27 | drmessano | Set the gateway and DNS |
| 08:02.46 | drmessano | Then Firefox to the Web Gui, and add the 10 or so settings |
| 08:02.49 | drmessano | and done |
| 08:03.23 | GuyOCanada | wow you set the ip with dtmf :D |
| 08:03.30 | drmessano | yeah |
| 08:03.37 | drmessano | **** to get the admin |
| 08:03.55 | GuyOCanada | ok but then you never need to use that again right? |
| 08:03.57 | drmessano | Then 110 I think checks the IP, 111 sets it |
| 08:04.00 | GuyOCanada | you can always use the web gui? |
| 08:04.19 | drmessano | Right.. thats to keep him from having to look up the device in DHCP or whatever |
| 08:04.49 | drmessano | Set the IP info via DTMF, GUI the rest for now one |
| 08:04.50 | drmessano | Set the IP info via DTMF, GUI the rest for now on |
| 08:04.59 | GuyOCanada | well ok |
| 08:05.41 | GuyOCanada | then he can just plug it in to my ethernet port and my pbx line and then look up in dhcp clients and setup a dmz for it? so i can remotely program it using the webgui |
| 08:05.56 | GuyOCanada | or not NAt / DHCP friendly? |
| 08:06.18 | drmessano | He could do that too |
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| 08:06.27 | drmessano | Ive set them via NAT before |
| 08:06.44 | drmessano | Its actually a router as well, so its designed to be remote admined if need be |
| 08:07.36 | GuyOCanada | ok i have another question the bandwith i have here in canada is 10mbit, no big problem also the asterisk server is runing on a 100mbit connection. the home has 1 mbit at the moment i reduced it to 1 mbit as im not there using it anybody hardly ever uses it |
| 08:08.10 | drmessano | 1mbit up and down? |
| 08:08.15 | GuyOCanada | and there is another point i want to put that in a friends house which has 256 kbit or if recently upgraded to 512kbit would that be a problem |
| 08:08.20 | GuyOCanada | no 1mbit download 256 upload |
| 08:08.41 | GuyOCanada | 256kb |
| 08:08.45 | drmessano | Ive used 1mb / 256mb with a single device and it works fine |
| 08:09.24 | drmessano | 512 .... |
| 08:09.29 | drmessano | Depends |
| 08:09.49 | GuyOCanada | 1 mb download 256kb upload not mb though |
| 08:10.12 | GuyOCanada | that 512/128 is never used for internet |
| 08:10.25 | GuyOCanada | it will be just for the phone |
| 08:10.29 | drmessano | 512/128 is tough.. |
| 08:10.38 | drmessano | Ive used it with G711 |
| 08:11.06 | drmessano | But the connection didnt have ANY room to be flaky |
| 08:11.11 | drmessano | Occasional drops |
| 08:11.44 | drmessano | You would want to see about using G729 on something like that |
| 08:11.54 | drmessano | Depending on if you have access |
| 08:12.41 | GuyOCanada | ok whats the best codec? for me to use at now i am on a 1.5 mbit telus connection (telus sucks when it comes to international so i am changing to shaw highspeed) my latency now is 500ms between me and the asterisk |
| 08:12.54 | GuyOCanada | depending on if i have access? |
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| 08:15.27 | drmessano | Yes, G729 requires licensing |
| 08:16.00 | drmessano | G711 is a good all around, good quality, but at lower bandwidths like that, you need something better |
| 08:16.17 | drmessano | I know the linksys boxes dont have GSM |
| 08:16.26 | GuyOCanada | whats the licencing for g729 |
| 08:16.28 | drmessano | or a LOT dont |
| 08:16.29 | DarKnesS_WolF | G722 i heard it is good |
| 08:16.33 | GuyOCanada | :( gsm was good |
| 08:16.51 | DarKnesS_WolF | GuyOCanada: there is a opensource from G729 but for commercial ue u hve to pay 10 USD per channel |
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| 08:17.26 | GuyOCanada | DarKnesS_WolF: well mine is not commercial, im just using it to talk to my family, friends etc :) |
| 08:17.31 | drmessano | Hmmmm |
| 08:17.45 | GuyOCanada | not a company thing |
| 08:17.45 | drmessano | I dont think its "commercial" |
| 08:17.52 | GuyOCanada | doesnt look like |
| 08:17.58 | drmessano | I think its testing vs production |
| 08:18.11 | GuyOCanada | then mine is testing not production :P |
| 08:18.18 | drmessano | lol |
| 08:18.25 | GuyOCanada | well 10 USD is not a big deal |
| 08:18.30 | GuyOCanada | ill get 3 of them :P |
| 08:18.34 | GuyOCanada | if its a one time fee |
| 08:18.56 | GuyOCanada | well i have a question what lets say linksys box does not have GSM but i use a phone that has GSM and gsm is my preferred method, when asterisk connects the call it choses the codec for the other party right? |
| 08:19.14 | drmessano | Asterisk will transcode for you |
| 08:19.38 | DarKnesS_WolF | drmessano: yes true also ... u can test with the free one when u like it then get one for 10 USD :P |
| 08:19.53 | drmessano | yes |
| 08:20.03 | aurax | anyone here experienced with chan_sccp module ? |
| 08:20.22 | drmessano | Saying its for commercial use is innaccurate though.. If youre "using" it, you need to pay for it, as I understand it |
| 08:20.34 | drmessano | Just wanted to be accurate :) |
| 08:20.39 | DarKnesS_WolF | aurax: not that much i just used Cisco phones with my * box and i did use SIP as far as i recall |
| 08:21.27 | GuyOCanada | well i hate that term |
| 08:21.28 | aurax | i install elastix and compiled the module fine... noticed that cyrus-master (imapd) is grabbing port 2000... |
| 08:21.33 | DarKnesS_WolF | GuyOCanada: yes it is a one time fee |
| 08:21.36 | GuyOCanada | its not clear on any peice of software |
| 08:21.42 | aurax | so i disabled it... but still no line sound when i pick up the phone... |
| 08:21.48 | GuyOCanada | for commercial use what does that really mean |
| 08:22.09 | DarKnesS_WolF | aurax: codecs issue as i think |
| 08:22.13 | DarKnesS_WolF | the phone rings? |
| 08:22.25 | GuyOCanada | a) it means i can use it in a private environment which is not for profit eg my home pbx. |
| 08:22.37 | WilliamK | I very much dislike cisco's Ip phones now |
| 08:22.43 | WilliamK | worst xml I've seen |
| 08:22.45 | GuyOCanada | b) if i use it in my office pbx and i gain profit out of my phone i have to pay licensing |
| 08:22.48 | WilliamK | and have yet to get it to WORK |
| 08:22.52 | drmessano | Arguing about G729 use is like arguing about the existance of God, or Buddha, or whoever... you really wont know who is right until you're caught or you die |
| 08:22.52 | drmessano | lol |
| 08:22.56 | GuyOCanada | c) if i create a product and sell it i have to pay for it |
| 08:23.27 | WilliamK | c is an interesting idea |
| 08:23.28 | aurax | hmm DarKnesS_WolF any way to test it ? i only have one phone |
| 08:23.29 | WilliamK | or method |
| 08:23.33 | GuyOCanada | :) |
| 08:23.52 | WilliamK | I think I'm going to turn into Dr. McKay from Stargate Atlantis |
| 08:24.03 | WilliamK | I've watched over 200+ mins now of SG |
| 08:24.08 | GuyOCanada | well i can create a product for example a calling card software that uses g729 and sell it to WilliamK, but then i have to pay licensing as i have sold him the product :) |
| 08:24.15 | WilliamK | while trying to fix this cotten picken XML |
| 08:24.34 | drmessano | ROFL |
| 08:24.43 | GuyOCanada | SG i havent had the time to download it |
| 08:24.46 | GuyOCanada | im watching Bones right now |
| 08:24.54 | drmessano | That makes my life seem somewhat sadder |
| 08:25.00 | WilliamK | Guy - you can stream it via winamp/shoutcast |
| 08:25.09 | GuyOCanada | im hoping to get the 1tb usb 2.0 harddrive for 179 Canadian dollars on boxing day |
| 08:25.18 | drmessano | I listened to Meatloaf - Bat Out of Hell while building my current PBX |
| 08:25.21 | drmessano | It helped lol |
| 08:25.31 | GuyOCanada | WilliamK: i use vlc to do that |
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| 08:25.41 | GuyOCanada | and thanks for reminding me WilliamK |
| 08:25.51 | drmessano | vlc is sweet |
| 08:25.51 | GuyOCanada | does asterisk have video capabilities? |
| 08:25.58 | drmessano | Passthru |
| 08:26.09 | drmessano | Ive use it with softphones |
| 08:26.14 | drmessano | used* |
| 08:26.25 | WilliamK | I'm sick of fighting Cisco's bugs/issues |
| 08:26.56 | GuyOCanada | ok can i put a video file on the box where * runs and stream it to a voip capable phone or softphone |
| 08:27.01 | drmessano | Theres nothing with Cisco |
| 08:27.03 | drmessano | Oh crap |
| 08:27.08 | drmessano | Packet loss, brb |
| 08:27.33 | drmessano | Not sure GuyOCanada |
| 08:27.34 | WilliamK | and you were saying? :) |
| 08:27.37 | drmessano | I would imagine so |
| 08:28.14 | GuyOCanada | WilliamK: i wanted to ask that streaming thing a week or so ago but i forgot about it untill you said streaming using shoutcast :D |
| 08:28.15 | _x86_ | DarKnesS_WolF: where did you go? |
| 08:28.19 | drmessano | Cisco is great if you want to spend more time configuring than you do talking |
| 08:28.27 | drmessano | Cisco is a technicians phone |
| 08:28.28 | drmessano | lol |
| 08:29.04 | WilliamK | I copied several examples from the net for the directory and NONE work |
| 08:29.08 | WilliamK | BTXML error |
| 08:29.19 | drmessano | Cisco is also great if you woke up this morning and decided you need a phone + wanted to set $200 on fire |
| 08:29.51 | GuyOCanada | directory? |
| 08:29.56 | drmessano | For only $200 more than the othey guy, you can have sccp |
| 08:29.58 | WilliamK | ya |
| 08:30.05 | DarKnesS_WolF | _x86_: i'm here dude ! |
| 08:30.15 | GuyOCanada | anyone using text to speech or speech to text? |
| 08:30.17 | DarKnesS_WolF | _x86_: really missing talking to u alot bro ... ! missing kickin ur ass in pool :P |
| 08:30.19 | WilliamK | they had these prior, I'm trying not to give my new Polycom's away |
| 08:30.21 | aurax | DarKnesS_WolF: should i set on the phone configuration gateway -> asterisk server? |
| 08:30.50 | DarKnesS_WolF | aurax: gateway for network ? i don't think so |
| 08:30.54 | aurax | hmm |
| 08:31.05 | aurax | then how the ip phone should know the asterisk server |
| 08:31.06 | aurax | ? |
| 08:31.12 | aurax | maybe the tftp configuration ? |
| 08:31.17 | DarKnesS_WolF | Cisco using a TFTP server to grap the configurations check voip-info had some nice howto |
| 08:31.39 | DarKnesS_WolF | aurax: no there is also SIP configurations on the phone as far as i recall |
| 08:31.42 | WilliamK | Darkness, nothing from voip-info works for the directory |
| 08:31.49 | aurax | 7902g has no sip |
| 08:34.17 | _x86_ | DarKnesS_WolF: talk in #shellshark |
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| 08:36.40 | GuyOCanada | any agi tutorials? |
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| 08:49.39 | FlatFoot | morning all |
| 08:56.38 | aurax | can someone hook me up with 7902g firmware? |
| 08:58.00 | FlatFoot | did you want SIP ? |
| 08:58.10 | aurax | it's sccp |
| 08:58.34 | FlatFoot | aurax: i got the sip firmware for 79xx if you want it |
| 08:58.56 | FlatFoot | or anyone else for that matter |
| 08:59.11 | aurax | but i know that 7902g is Sccp only |
| 08:59.12 | aurax | not sip |
| 09:00.10 | FlatFoot | yes mine are 7905's but the firmware says it covers the 79xx range of phones |
| 09:01.06 | aurax | shoot then :) |
| 09:01.54 | FlatFoot | hang on i'll stick it on a webserver |
| 09:03.50 | aurax | aight thx :) |
| 09:05.50 | GuyOCanada | :( |
| 09:06.33 | FlatFoot | http://myaccount.vfast.co.uk/Cisco/ |
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| 09:06.55 | FlatFoot | GuyOCanada why so glum ? |
| 09:06.59 | RedStalker_Mike | hi all ) |
| 09:09.12 | GuyOCanada | couldn't find a good tutorial on AGI scripts |
| 09:11.22 | _x86_ | voip-info.org has a nice one |
| 09:11.31 | _x86_ | AGI, EAGI, XAGI, etc |
| 09:11.55 | GuyOCanada | EAGI XAGI? |
| 09:12.00 | _x86_ | google |
| 09:12.10 | _x86_ | google for "AGI site:voip-info.org" |
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| 09:18.15 | GuyOCanada | another q, how do you create a call-file? |
| 09:18.44 | _x86_ | write stuff to a file and put it in the right place |
| 09:19.00 | _x86_ | google for "call file site:voip-info.org" |
| 09:19.11 | GuyOCanada | _x86_: are you a bot ? |
| 09:19.19 | _x86_ | nope |
| 09:19.35 | FlatFoot | aurax: did you get the files ? |
| 09:19.39 | _x86_ | just trying to rid the channel of questions from people who refuse to google before asking dumb questions |
| 09:19.41 | GuyOCanada | :) no you are a bot with a nicely coded AI |
| 09:19.55 | _x86_ | uh huh... sure |
| 09:19.57 | GuyOCanada | _x86_: I love google is my best friend |
| 09:20.00 | _x86_ | how does that make you feel? |
| 09:20.31 | GuyOCanada | but im really not in the mood of typing stuff to google or voip-info at 1 am in the morning without sleeping for the last 48 hours or maybe more |
| 09:20.32 | GuyOCanada | Sorry |
| 09:20.35 | GuyOCanada | :( |
| 09:20.47 | _x86_ | odd that you can type on IRC just fine |
| 09:20.52 | _x86_ | seems lazy to me |
| 09:20.54 | _x86_ | sorry ;) |
| 09:21.03 | _x86_ | we dont buy that crap |
| 09:22.36 | GuyOCanada | _x86_: |
| 09:22.39 | GuyOCanada | google is not human |
| 09:22.44 | GuyOCanada | people on irc are human |
| 09:22.52 | GuyOCanada | human can give quick answers :P |
| 09:23.02 | GuyOCanada | and another thingy |
| 09:23.11 | GuyOCanada | i dont sell crap |
| 09:23.14 | GuyOCanada | so you cant buy it :) |
| 09:23.22 | _x86_ | i'm sure google can offer faster answers than any human can |
| 09:23.29 | _x86_ | i'll bet money on it |
| 09:23.53 | _x86_ | see all this time you've been bitching you could of had your answer long ago ;) |
| 09:25.17 | _x86_ | doesnt matter if you think you're selling or not... you are ;) |
| 09:25.44 | _x86_ | you're selling the idea that you're not lazy, and some how your access to google / ability to parse google's output is somehow broken |
| 09:29.17 | aurax | errr, i can't get this sccp phone to work |
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| 09:47.08 | GuyOCanada | damn |
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| 09:47.53 | GuyOCanada | I deffinately have to map the N key with another key :S |
| 09:48.17 | GuyOCanada | I keep on hitting N instead of Spacebar and VLC is going to the next episode :@ |
| 09:48.48 | GuyOCanada | _x86_: i said i dont like x86 but you are right :P |
| 09:49.01 | GuyOCanada | someone changed my parsing algorithm |
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| 10:06.22 | ronr_ | hi, I'm looking for a graphical pinout of a E1 crosscable (so I can just say that color should be on that pin) |
| 10:06.51 | GuyOCanada | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v115/timestacker/LinksysChatSession.jpg |
| 10:07.00 | GuyOCanada | ronr_: google |
| 10:08.04 | ronr_ | GuyOCanada: for what? I can find pinouts a lot but not which colors |
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| 10:11.12 | GuyOCanada | ronr_ |
| 10:11.18 | GuyOCanada | if you are going to make a cable |
| 10:11.24 | GuyOCanada | colors are not important |
| 10:11.31 | ronr_ | GuyOCanada: nevermind, got it (but really, if you're not willing to help,don't say anything, shouting google aint helping, say google FOR <....> is..) |
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| 10:11.45 | GuyOCanada | ronr_: |
| 10:11.55 | GuyOCanada | if it says pin 1 to pin 6 |
| 10:12.03 | GuyOCanada | then pick a color for example blue |
| 10:12.07 | GuyOCanada | pin 1 blue to pin 6 blue |
| 10:12.13 | GuyOCanada | if it says pint 2 to pin 7 |
| 10:12.19 | GuyOCanada | take another color green |
| 10:12.24 | GuyOCanada | pin 2 to pin 7 |
| 10:12.40 | ronr_ | ok, didn't know colors didn't matter at all, thx |
| 10:13.09 | _x86_ | colors are just to make it easier for the person crimping the cable |
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| 10:13.34 | _x86_ | otherwise you'd have no idea what order to put the wires in on each end ;) |
| 10:13.41 | GuyOCanada | and ronr_: sorry i thought you were looking for the wiring numbers thats why i pointed you to google |
| 10:13.52 | GuyOCanada | _x86_: |
| 10:13.57 | GuyOCanada | when i was wiring my home |
| 10:14.04 | GuyOCanada | i had two kinds of connectors |
| 10:14.29 | GuyOCanada | one was straight lines and the other was zigy zaggy lines :D |
| 10:14.34 | _x86_ | you are talking about jacks or plugs? |
| 10:14.39 | GuyOCanada | jacks |
| 10:14.52 | GuyOCanada | when i used the straight ones |
| 10:14.55 | _x86_ | zig-zags are to show you white pairs |
| 10:15.01 | GuyOCanada | it was 10.0 mbits / second |
| 10:15.09 | _x86_ | blue / blue+white, etc |
| 10:15.11 | GuyOCanada | zig zags were 100.0 mbits/second |
| 10:15.16 | GuyOCanada | no no thats not what i mean |
| 10:15.18 | GuyOCanada | wait |
| 10:15.37 | _x86_ | so you had some cat4 jacks and some cat5 jacks? |
| 10:15.56 | _x86_ | or hell, probably more like cat3 jacks and cat5 jacks |
| 10:16.02 | _x86_ | cat4 can do 25Mbps ;) |
| 10:16.17 | _x86_ | hmm although i think cat3's rating is less than 10mbps |
| 10:16.18 | GuyOCanada | not really |
| 10:16.24 | _x86_ | yes, really |
| 10:16.31 | GuyOCanada | wait |
| 10:16.33 | _x86_ | look at the standards before debating me, nub |
| 10:16.35 | _x86_ | ;) |
| 10:16.43 | GuyOCanada | cat5 cat3 cat4 cat6e |
| 10:16.51 | GuyOCanada | arent those cables |
| 10:16.55 | _x86_ | there is no such thing as cat6e |
| 10:16.56 | GuyOCanada | with different qualities |
| 10:17.00 | GuyOCanada | 5e |
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| 10:17.02 | GuyOCanada | sorry :) |
| 10:17.20 | _x86_ | goes from cat1 to cat7 |
| 10:17.28 | _x86_ | although cat7 isn't ratified yet |
| 10:18.19 | GuyOCanada | well i have cat5e |
| 10:18.23 | _x86_ | cat1 and cat3 are generally used for running voice |
| 10:18.34 | _x86_ | you'll never see cat2 |
| 10:18.47 | _x86_ | cat4 is very rare, but i've seen installations of it |
| 10:18.57 | coppice | call these number cat sounds very Dr Suess |
| 10:19.08 | coppice | s/call/all |
| 10:19.10 | GuyOCanada | well the school here still uses coax |
| 10:19.21 | _x86_ | vampire taps? |
| 10:19.31 | _x86_ | thicknet or thinnet? |
| 10:19.45 | GuyOCanada | anyone using WRT54 series linksys wifi-routers? |
| 10:19.50 | _x86_ | i am |
| 10:20.16 | GuyOCanada | _x86_ |
| 10:20.19 | _x86_ | i've got (2) WRT54GL's sitting here bridging |
| 10:20.20 | _x86_ | using |
| 10:20.21 | GuyOCanada | which one GL GS G? |
| 10:20.24 | GuyOCanada | ok |
| 10:20.25 | _x86_ | DD-WRT |
| 10:20.29 | GuyOCanada | ok |
| 10:20.41 | GuyOCanada | I purchased an G here but it is an v8 one :( |
| 10:21.02 | GuyOCanada | so i am planing of buying a new one a GL or GS |
| 10:21.36 | _x86_ | get the L |
| 10:21.38 | GuyOCanada | I have seen on ebay people selling omni 251mW antennas |
| 10:21.41 | _x86_ | it has 16mb of flash |
| 10:21.56 | _x86_ | pfft... 250mW omnis are nothing |
| 10:22.07 | _x86_ | what you want is a 2W 8dBi omni |
| 10:22.18 | _x86_ | you'll get decent range out of that ;) |
| 10:22.21 | GuyOCanada | :) |
| 10:22.27 | GuyOCanada | i need 2km :P |
| 10:22.33 | _x86_ | you know the antenna has nothing to do with the input wattage right? |
| 10:22.48 | GuyOCanada | well with dd-wrt |
| 10:22.51 | GuyOCanada | you can increase it |
| 10:22.59 | _x86_ | that's the radio, not the antenna |
| 10:23.06 | GuyOCanada | as far as i heard anyways that is not the case |
| 10:23.09 | GuyOCanada | oh sorry |
| 10:23.15 | GuyOCanada | the one i have right now |
| 10:23.20 | _x86_ | please |
| 10:23.20 | GuyOCanada | its a shitty antenna you cant unplug it |
| 10:23.21 | _x86_ | type |
| 10:23.22 | _x86_ | in |
| 10:23.23 | _x86_ | complete |
| 10:23.25 | _x86_ | sentances |
| 10:23.27 | GuyOCanada | ok! |
| 10:23.31 | GuyOCanada | ok |
| 10:23.56 | GuyOCanada | I have a WRT54G v8 the antenna on it is not changeable you can not unplug it, can you chance the antenna of the GL without opening the box |
| 10:23.58 | GuyOCanada | . |
| 10:24.09 | drmessano | LOL |
| 10:24.18 | drmessano | V8s are so shitty |
| 10:24.21 | drmessano | I got one for work the other day |
| 10:24.30 | drmessano | Feels like a tinkertoy |
| 10:24.39 | GuyOCanada | I know drmessano |
| 10:25.04 | coppice | none of the linksys's are exactly robust |
| 10:25.04 | GuyOCanada | so thats why i am selling it to a friend to get the GL or GS which has Linux instead of WxVox or whatever it is |
| 10:25.45 | drmessano | The older ones were |
| 10:25.55 | drmessano | The V5 and on just got worse |
| 10:26.07 | GuyOCanada | I tried to run woxkiller stuff from dd-wrt site |
| 10:26.09 | coppice | the RF connectors in the older ones fall apart if you sneeze. |
| 10:26.19 | GuyOCanada | it killed the router so i went back and said it stopped working :) |
| 10:26.37 | coppice | i never understood why they didn't eliminate the antenna leads completely |
| 10:26.41 | GuyOCanada | they exchanged it over the counter i went and got a GS and said ok i got it she did not scan it at first then someone else came and said that is a GS :D |
| 10:26.56 | drmessano | Antenna leads? |
| 10:27.00 | drmessano | On the boxes themselves? |
| 10:27.08 | drmessano | Or the antennas specifically |
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| 10:27.50 | GuyOCanada | modified ram? |
| 10:27.54 | GuyOCanada | he claims he has 64 ram |
| 10:28.05 | coppice | inside the boxes there are leads from the antennas to the PCB, and they have really crappy connectors |
| 10:28.14 | drmessano | Oh ok |
| 10:28.35 | drmessano | Wasnt sure which ones you meant |
| 10:28.43 | coppice | but one such a high volume product I would expect such leads to have been engineered out |
| 10:29.05 | GuyOCanada | Up ram 16 MB to 64MB .......to hight stability and you can select up firmware between Tomato or DD-WRT from us |
| 10:29.36 | GuyOCanada | you can upgrade the ram in the router? |
| 10:29.41 | ronr_ | I think I screwed up my telco's modem settings for the E1 box, it's a athrea ac 2032/t and the telco in BBNed (in the Netherlands), anyone has such a box or knows the correct settings |
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| 10:31.56 | drmessano | You can do all sorts of crap with WRT54Gs |
| 10:32.18 | drmessano | Serial ports, USB, CF cards |
| 10:32.18 | GuyOCanada | GL has 16 ram and 4 mb flash |
| 10:33.48 | GuyOCanada | well I want to setup a hotspot |
| 10:33.58 | GuyOCanada | and get as much range as i can with a better antenna |
| 10:34.07 | drmessano | Make a slot antenna |
| 10:35.38 | GuyOCanada | slot antenna |
| 10:35.46 | GuyOCanada | googleing that |
| 10:36.41 | GuyOCanada | a metal plate |
| 10:41.04 | GuyOCanada | http://www.engadget.com/2005/11/15/how-to-build-a-wifi-biquad-dish-antenna/ thats a good idea |
| 10:42.25 | drmessano | Eh |
| 10:42.32 | drmessano | Not for a hotspot its not |
| 10:44.02 | drmessano | http://www.trevormarshall.com/waveguides.htm |
| 10:44.03 | GuyOCanada | :) |
| 10:44.29 | GuyOCanada | ok i need something to transmit my wifi to another point (in one direction 1.5 miles away) |
| 10:44.31 | drmessano | I love those |
| 10:44.40 | drmessano | Ok |
| 10:45.13 | drmessano | Do you have direct line of sight? |
| 10:45.29 | ronr_ | anyone here with a bbned isdn connection (if so, could you do a console login and tell me the output of the conf command, i'm looking for what's behind set mode) |
| 10:46.44 | GuyOCanada | well that is a tricky question no but there are no big buildings |
| 10:47.50 | drmessano | Well |
| 10:47.59 | drmessano | There needs to be nothing between |
| 10:48.52 | GuyOCanada | http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&saddr=6440+groveland+drive&daddr=6135+McGirr+Road,+nanaimo&sll=49.240245,-124.03907&sspn=0.014906,0.046649&ie=UTF8&z=15&om=1 |
| 10:49.36 | drmessano | How high will the antennas be/ |
| 10:49.37 | drmessano | ? |
| 10:50.09 | GuyOCanada | Well I can probably put them on the roof |
| 10:50.38 | GuyOCanada | Router will be in point A on the map |
| 10:50.40 | mvanbaak | ronr_: what type of router/modem ? |
| 10:50.47 | ronr_ | athrea ac 2032/t |
| 10:50.55 | mvanbaak | ah, sorry |
| 10:50.59 | mvanbaak | dont have one like that |
| 10:51.11 | ronr_ | but I guess the operation mode should be the same |
| 10:51.32 | drmessano | LOL |
| 10:51.35 | ronr_ | automatic-ces, bridge, tdm or ntp |
| 10:51.46 | drmessano | you're gonna need about 50 ft of height |
| 10:51.52 | mvanbaak | mine is set to bridge |
| 10:52.32 | ronr_ | ok, than at least I know that |
| 10:52.53 | ronr_ | crc4 is on I guess |
| 10:53.00 | GuyOCanada | drmessano |
| 10:53.03 | mvanbaak | yup |
| 10:53.05 | drmessano | yeah |
| 10:53.11 | GuyOCanada | 15 feet of height for the antenna ? |
| 10:53.21 | GuyOCanada | or 15 feet over ground level? |
| 10:53.31 | drmessano | 50 above ground |
| 10:53.49 | GuyOCanada | thats not a big problem and what kind of antenna do i need? |
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| 10:54.05 | coppice | more specifically 50 ft above a point half way between your antennas |
| 10:54.10 | drmessano | Couple of Yagis would probably do it.. High gain |
| 10:54.18 | GuyOCanada | my roof is about at 50 feet |
| 10:54.39 | drmessano | I dont see many trees |
| 10:54.50 | drmessano | So rooftops would be your own obstacle |
| 10:55.02 | drmessano | Get above them probably have line of sight |
| 10:55.09 | GuyOCanada | hmm |
| 10:55.27 | drmessano | Biggest problem wont be antennas |
| 10:55.38 | coppice | you really need line of site. nothing whatever in the way |
| 10:55.40 | GuyOCanada | what will the problem be? |
| 10:55.52 | drmessano | It will be feedline to the access points, where all the loss is.. and aiming |
| 10:56.17 | drmessano | aligning is going to kill you doing it by hand |
| 10:56.25 | coppice | that part is easy. put the access point near the antenna, and make the cate 5 long |
| 10:56.29 | GuyOCanada | bah any better solutions |
| 10:56.37 | GuyOCanada | i wonder if i can find those old routers |
| 10:56.41 | GuyOCanada | 5 miles 1 mbit |
| 10:56.42 | drmessano | yep |
| 10:56.48 | drmessano | and hes gonna have to remote the power |
| 10:56.53 | drmessano | Waterproof the box |
| 10:57.02 | GuyOCanada | I really dont care about the speed |
| 10:57.03 | drmessano | I wouldnt go 10 feet on feedline |
| 10:57.09 | ronr_ | mvanbaak: you know the loop setting of e1? local or remote? |
| 10:57.35 | GuyOCanada | well maybe i should not use internet on location B :) |
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| 10:57.47 | GuyOCanada | or stick whit the shitty school terminals :S |
| 10:58.09 | GuyOCanada | they recently blocked logmein.com so i cant remote desktop anymore ssh is also blocked only port 21 and 80 |
| 10:58.16 | drmessano | 1.5 miles is better served with something like motorola canopy radios and not consumer hardware |
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| 10:58.35 | drmessano | It CAN be done |
| 10:58.44 | drmessano | But it takes some rigging that most people wont do |
| 10:59.21 | drmessano | I mean, put the boxes in pelican cases, use PoE for the power (building your own injector) |
| 10:59.34 | drmessano | Build the antenna arrays |
| 10:59.35 | drmessano | Etc |
| 10:59.56 | drmessano | and then the first storm that comes through, and bam.. gone |
| 11:00.04 | drmessano | lol |
| 11:00.08 | GuyOCanada | :D |
| 11:00.15 | GuyOCanada | why does everyone like PoE |
| 11:00.25 | drmessano | Its not about liking it |
| 11:00.36 | drmessano | Its about not running two cables |
| 11:00.52 | drmessano | or needing power at a device |
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| 11:01.04 | GuyOCanada | which cables do you use? |
| 11:01.16 | drmessano | If a device needs power |
| 11:01.26 | drmessano | You need power and ethernet |
| 11:01.33 | drmessano | with PoE its one |
| 11:01.54 | GuyOCanada | yes but arent all the pins used? |
| 11:02.12 | drmessano | Without PoE? |
| 11:02.28 | GuyOCanada | yes |
| 11:02.29 | drmessano | No |
| 11:02.56 | GuyOCanada | 4-5 78? |
| 11:03.36 | drmessano | unused |
| 11:04.05 | drmessano | 1,2 TD, 3,6 RD |
| 11:04.36 | GuyOCanada | well im wondering why they created so many cables :P if we dont use them |
| 11:05.48 | drmessano | To sell more RJ-45s |
| 11:05.53 | drmessano | and copper |
| 11:05.56 | GuyOCanada | :) |
| 11:06.10 | GuyOCanada | we could have used RJ-11's |
| 11:06.41 | drmessano | LOL |
| 11:06.42 | Porks | drmessano, cable for gigabit will use only 1,2, 3,6 too? |
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| 11:07.36 | drmessano | Gigabit uses pins, I believe |
| 11:07.40 | drmessano | Gigabit uses all pins, I believe |
| 11:07.58 | Porks | uhmmm |
| 11:08.31 | drmessano | If I remmeber correctly |
| 11:08.45 | drmessano | All are assigned.. not sure how they get used |
| 11:09.29 | coppice | .5 GB per pair |
| 11:09.38 | drmessano | I know theres 4 pairs, bidirectional |
| 11:09.44 | GuyOCanada | maybe they should create something called UEP or UEB :) |
| 11:09.48 | drmessano | lol |
| 11:09.55 | GuyOCanada | universal ethernet bus, universal ethernet port :P |
| 11:10.06 | GuyOCanada | lol |
| 11:12.35 | coppice | gig-E uses the same bandwidth on the pairs as 100M ethermet. they use 2 pairs, and each pairs carries a modulated signal, rather than simple digital pulses, like 10M and 100M ethernet |
| 11:13.47 | drmessano | Ah |
| 11:14.04 | drmessano | I havent messed with any GigE yet.. sadly |
| 11:14.09 | coppice | on second thoughts, they use 4 bits per symbol, so the bandwidth is a little higher. the symbol rate is 125M |
| 11:14.37 | drmessano | But next week I get a nice primer lol |
| 11:15.35 | coppice | reusing 100M wiring for gig-e is often troublesome, because many of those pairs that were neevr actually use turn out not to have wired correctly :-) |
| 11:16.21 | drmessano | Yep |
| 11:17.20 | drmessano | I've got some new GigE switches coming, and am looking forward to playing with it |
| 11:17.31 | drmessano | If nothing else, for linking switches |
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| 11:22.55 | uwe | \ |
| 11:23.45 | uwe | hello, im getting strange problem, asterisk is not restarting , and i cant do sip show peers ... ! any idea what the issue could be ? |
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| 11:29.07 | GuyOCanada | service asterisk stop |
| 11:29.14 | GuyOCanada | service asterisk start |
| 11:29.23 | GuyOCanada | (not restart) |
| 11:29.33 | GuyOCanada | or kill it |
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| 11:42.01 | _x86_ | can someone send me a test fax? |
| 11:42.09 | FlatFoot | what number ? |
| 11:42.11 | _x86_ | +1-309-693-6737 |
| 11:42.56 | mvanbaak | _x86_: FoIP ? |
| 11:44.13 | FlatFoot | _x86_: on its way |
| 11:44.49 | _x86_ | mvanbaak: kind of |
| 11:45.07 | _x86_ | mvanbaak: CO line --> asterisk --> iaxmodem/hylafax --> email |
| 11:45.14 | mvanbaak | ah |
| 11:45.14 | _x86_ | FlatFoot: thanks |
| 11:45.19 | FlatFoot | np |
| 11:45.51 | mvanbaak | for now we do: CO line --> asterisk --> chan_capi's RXFax |
| 11:46.56 | _x86_ | FlatFoot: simon? |
| 11:47.01 | FlatFoot | yep |
| 11:47.09 | _x86_ | mvanbaak: RxFax sucks |
| 11:47.13 | _x86_ | Hylafax++ |
| 11:47.14 | mvanbaak | yuppers |
| 11:47.19 | _x86_ | FlatFoot: got it, looks great |
| 11:47.22 | mvanbaak | but hey, it works |
| 11:47.25 | FlatFoot | np |
| 11:47.32 | _x86_ | by the way, it emailed it to my iPod Touch |
| 11:47.51 | FlatFoot | _x86_: where did my name appear from then ? somewhere on the fax ? |
| 11:47.57 | _x86_ | so i'm looking at this little robot thing holding up this code on my iPod... |
| 11:48.06 | _x86_ | FlatFoot: yeah the CLID |
| 11:48.30 | FlatFoot | _x86_: The robot thing is advertising the digital switch over for terrestial tv |
| 11:48.46 | _x86_ | "24 Dec 07 13:04 Simon Garvey 08701232042" |
| 11:48.56 | _x86_ | FlatFoot: ah cool |
| 11:49.03 | FlatFoot | as we in the uk lose our analouge signal in 2012 i think |
| 11:49.12 | _x86_ | man the quality on this is great |
| 11:49.17 | FlatFoot | can't spell for toffee today |
| 11:49.35 | _x86_ | did you use a physical fax machine or email-to-fax or something? |
| 11:49.38 | mvanbaak | FlatFoot: here in .nl we are going to loose analog signal as well |
| 11:49.39 | FlatFoot | its come via our HP7140xl |
| 11:50.16 | FlatFoot | mvanbaak: do you get our analog signals ? |
| 11:50.28 | mvanbaak | some |
| 11:50.34 | FlatFoot | channel 5 ? |
| 11:50.52 | mvanbaak | cant remember which |
| 11:51.04 | mvanbaak | I switched to a dish couple of years ago |
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| 11:51.13 | _x86_ | we're losing our analog sometime in 2009 i think |
| 11:51.18 | FlatFoot | thats one of the reasons we have to switch over , because channel 5 is on the same freq as a station in france |
| 11:51.30 | FlatFoot | so we can't transmit it along the coast |
| 11:51.45 | Dovid | Anyone here from Australia ? |
| 11:52.00 | Dovid | or Argentina ? |
| 11:52.12 | ToTo | muuuuu |
| 11:52.23 | Porks | hahaha |
| 11:52.27 | Dovid | I need a test call to a toll free number there |
| 11:52.35 | _x86_ | FlatFoot: what is W1T 2BU |
| 11:52.57 | FlatFoot | _x86_: it's a postcode |
| 11:53.09 | FlatFoot | for the west end of london |
| 11:53.15 | FlatFoot | West 1 |
| 11:53.31 | FlatFoot | zip code for you i think |
| 11:53.37 | _x86_ | me? |
| 11:53.42 | _x86_ | i'm in the states ;) |
| 11:53.44 | FlatFoot | in the states |
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| 11:53.56 | Dovid | and I am in Israel ATM |
| 11:54.03 | FlatFoot | it's called a zip code over there isn't it ? |
| 11:54.06 | _x86_ | my zip code is 61611 hehehe |
| 11:54.17 | Dovid | I travel to dmanmuch |
| 11:54.20 | _x86_ | we don't have letters in our zip codes |
| 11:54.22 | _x86_ | or spaces |
| 11:54.29 | _x86_ | they are all 5-digit numbers |
| 11:54.52 | FlatFoot | ours all start with the first or first 2 letters of a postal area |
| 11:55.05 | FlatFoot | we are TN23 6LL ( ToNbridge ) |
| 11:58.02 | _x86_ | ah |
| 11:58.24 | _x86_ | i dont know the rhyme or reason of ours |
| 11:58.36 | _x86_ | they dont seem to make much geographical sense, imho |
| 11:59.13 | FlatFoot | i would have thought it would follow the grid system that most of the cities seem to be built on |
| 12:00.03 | _x86_ | most cities only have one zip code |
| 12:00.22 | _x86_ | except large cities have more than one sometimes |
| 12:00.40 | _x86_ | like Peoria, IL... population ~250,000 |
| 12:00.52 | _x86_ | has roughly 10 zip codes |
| 12:01.02 | _x86_ | and no, follows no pattern |
| 12:01.18 | FlatFoot | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZIP_code |
| 12:01.37 | FlatFoot | got a zipe code map on there |
| 12:02.09 | FlatFoot | *zip |
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| 12:29.25 | ronr_ | I got a sitecom utp cable tester, can I use this to test a E1 cross cable (between my athrea modem and a digium card)? |
| 12:37.34 | JT | if it can tell you what pin goes to what pin, sure |
| 12:41.51 | ronr_ | JT: it doesn't, the **** thing just has a few leds marked 1&2, 3&6, 4&5 and 7&8 |
| 12:43.08 | JT | then use a multimeter? |
| 12:43.19 | FlatFoot | ronr_: buy a tester from IDEAL they seem to be the best we have come across |
| 12:45.40 | ronr_ | thx, I'll go and get a good tester |
| 12:55.50 | FlatFoot | ronr_: this is our favoured tester http://www.idealindustries.co.uk/index.cfm?pid=19&op=dsp&pk=18214&fk=54 |
| 13:06.38 | ronr_ | ok, I think I'm a bit further now, unfortunately I can't get a cable tester on short notice, my digium card is showing a red flashing led, is this definitely a wrong cable or can I also check other things? |
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| 13:11.45 | ronr_ | anyone knows framing for a bbned e1, cas of css? |
| 13:15.37 | JT | dunno what bbned or css is |
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| 13:15.42 | JT | but it'd be ccs |
| 13:15.56 | JT | and i said a multimeter would work |
| 13:16.13 | ronr_ | JT: yeah, and if I'd have one around here... |
| 13:17.51 | FlatFoot | ronr_: small battery few bits of wire and a bulb , dismantle a torch that works |
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| 13:19.24 | FlatFoot | that'll do a continuity test |
| 13:20.06 | ronr_ | FlatFoot: that's new for me, is there a scheme somewhere on the internet? |
| 13:20.33 | FlatFoot | battery two wire of the terminals two wires of the bulb terms |
| 13:21.05 | FlatFoot | then connect to pairs 12 , 36 etc and use the cat5 as the rest of the connection between the batt and bulb |
| 13:22.16 | FlatFoot | ronr_: http://www.answers.com/topic/circuit-testing-electricity?cat=technology |
| 13:23.09 | ronr_ | FlatFoot: thanks, I'm gonna try and build that |
| 13:23.29 | FlatFoot | pretty simple test but it will show if the core is broken at least |
| 13:23.36 | FlatFoot | won't test for speed etc though |
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| 13:38.45 | FlatFoot | straw poll , who's working over christmas then ? |
| 13:44.00 | Porks | \o_ |
| 13:46.21 | tzafrir | FlatFoot, ask that tommorow... |
| 13:48.14 | FlatFoot | not me m8 i shall be full of guiness |
| 13:48.15 | mvanbaak | o/ |
| 13:48.32 | mvanbaak | but I wont be here |
| 13:48.39 | mvanbaak | onsite work |
| 13:50.05 | FlatFoot | mvanbaak: at least onsite work should be nice and quiet |
| 13:50.54 | mvanbaak | indeed |
| 13:52.44 | aurax | what is better, elastix or centpbx? |
| 13:52.59 | aurax | or same thing diff package... |
| 13:55.47 | [TK]D-Fender | aurax, yipy just another distro with * and FreePBX slapped on. |
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| 14:08.09 | FlatFoot | ah well off to do the christmas shopping , hope all enjoy the day whatever you are doing |
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| 14:35.18 | ronr_ | I got a athrea modem with an E1 port connected at the E1 port with a E1 cross cable to a digium TE120P card, the cable is good (1->4, 2->5, 4->1, 5->2), but the digium card led flashes red, where do I look? |
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| 14:42.04 | ronr_ | found it, I needed a patch cable, not a cross cable |
| 14:46.58 | ronr_ | what a blue alarm on a digium te120p? |
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| 14:56.49 | ronr_ | mvanbaak: you know what switchtype in zapata.conf bbned needs (and is it cas or ccs)? |
| 14:58.20 | mvanbaak | I have no idea |
| 14:58.57 | ronr_ | ok, i'll just try some |
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| 15:18.12 | ronr_ | I defined a trunkgroup as trunkgroup => 1,16 and a channels section group 1 to zaptel device, all lines are free but when I try to call out asterisk tells me everybody is busy/congested at this time, what can I do about this? |
| 15:20.36 | [TK]D-Fender | ronr_, "trunkgroup" has nothing to do with sending your basic b-chans to the same context |
| 15:20.43 | [TK]D-Fender | ronr_, thats for bonding MULTIPLE PRI |
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| 15:21.04 | [TK]D-Fender | ronr_, pastebin your zaptel & zapata. |
| 15:21.05 | [TK]D-Fender | ~pb |
| 15:21.06 | jbot | [~pb] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste |
| 15:24.29 | ronr_ | [TK]D-Fender: http://pastebin.com/m30db0353 |
| 15:26.00 | [TK]D-Fender | ronr_, you're pluggin into a telco smartjack? |
| 15:26.25 | [TK]D-Fender | ronr_, Oh, and is this a brand new card? |
| 15:26.33 | ronr_ | [TK]D-Fender: yeah, I got a green light on the digium card and no alarm on zttool |
| 15:26.40 | ronr_ | [TK]D-Fender: indeed, brand new |
| 15:26.55 | ronr_ | [TK]D-Fender: jumper is set to E1 |
| 15:27.00 | [TK]D-Fender | ronr_, by default those card have a jumper that is set to T1 mode that you'll have to move to the E1 position. |
| 15:27.10 | [TK]D-Fender | ronr_, Good, you covered that one |
| 15:27.15 | [TK]D-Fender | ronr_, 1 sec |
| 15:27.47 | [TK]D-Fender | ronr_, So this goes to telco? |
| 15:27.56 | ronr_ | [TK]D-Fender: it does |
| 15:28.20 | [TK]D-Fender | ronr_, http://pastebin.com/m61f40513 |
| 15:28.42 | ronr_ | [TK]D-Fender: ill try that, 1 sec |
| 15:28.48 | [TK]D-Fender | ronr_, minor fixes. put them in and enable pri debug when you try a call again (You'll need to stop *, and redo ztcfg -vvvv) |
| 15:30.20 | ronr_ | [TK]D-Fender: and what's the card in extensions, not Zap/G/${EXTEN} anymore I guess |
| 15:31.14 | [TK]D-Fender | ronr_, Dial(Zap/g1/${EXTEN}) depending on your use of prefixes, etc |
| 15:32.16 | ronr_ | [TK]D-Fender: how do I enable debug on pri? |
| 15:32.51 | [TK]D-Fender | "pri debug" |
| 15:32.55 | [TK]D-Fender | "pri debug span 1" |
| 15:34.13 | ronr_ | [TK]D-Fender: http://pastebin.com/m59c61200 |
| 15:36.12 | [TK]D-Fender | ronr_, that could mean the # is actualy busy |
| 15:36.15 | [TK]D-Fender | try another |
| 15:36.28 | dacs | [TK]D-Fender: good morning |
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| 15:37.59 | ronr_ | [TK]D-Fender: I tried a few more, same result (I'm sure nobody is using my mobile that I have lying right here) |
| 15:38.38 | [TK]D-Fender | ronr_, do "pri debug span 1" and try again. I didn't see anything in that last apptempt |
| 15:38.43 | [TK]D-Fender | attempt* |
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| 15:40.09 | ronr_ | [TK]D-Fender: same results, somehow it looks like pri is never used |
| 15:40.33 | [TK]D-Fender | :/ |
| 15:40.45 | ronr_ | [TK]D-Fender: I'll try recompiling libpri |
| 15:40.57 | [TK]D-Fender | ronr_, "pri show span 1" |
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| 15:42.24 | ronr_ | [TK]D-Fender: http://pastebin.com/m447b2f1a |
| 15:43.40 | [TK]D-Fender | ronr_, look like maybe the telco isn't live yet |
| 15:43.56 | [TK]D-Fender | ronr_, this a newly ordered circuit? |
| 15:44.27 | ronr_ | [TK]D-Fender: yeah it is, it should be live since about 10 days |
| 15:44.37 | [TK]D-Fender | ronr_, hrm... |
| 15:44.52 | ronr_ | [TK]D-Fender: but it's 99% that the problem is there? |
| 15:44.52 | [TK]D-Fender | ronr_, Silly though. maybe try rebooting the box |
| 15:45.09 | ronr_ | [TK]D-Fender: can always try that |
| 15:45.25 | [TK]D-Fender | ronr_, I'm not an expert by any means on PRI but have set them up before. Just going on experience and a little instinct |
| 15:45.42 | ronr_ | [TK]D-Fender: it's rebooting now (will take a while) |
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| 15:47.00 | WilliamK | they put the d-chan on a diff chan than US by default for euroISDN? |
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| 15:47.59 | WilliamK | interesting, looking at notes now |
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| 15:50.05 | [TK]D-Fender | WilliamK, 30b+d, d=16, and several framing differences. |
| 15:50.23 | [TK]D-Fender | WilliamK, USA != Center of the Universe |
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| 15:51.12 | WilliamK | TK; gah! |
| 15:51.13 | WilliamK | =P |
| 15:51.54 | WilliamK | :) |
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| 15:56.52 | ronr_ | [TK]D-Fender: I now get an error: Unable to create channel of type'Zap' (cause 66: Channel not implemented) (after reboot) |
| 15:57.39 | tzafrir | ronr_, chan_zap failed to load for some reason? Look for error messages from it |
| 15:57.53 | [TK]D-Fender | ronr_, means zaptel didn't laod on boot and chan_zap failed to load |
| 15:58.13 | [TK]D-Fender | ronr_, stop * and do "ztcfg -vvvv" |
| 15:58.31 | [TK]D-Fender | ronr_, And you'll want to have it load in your startup sequence. What OS are you runnign? |
| 15:58.50 | teknoprep | ? |
| 15:59.40 | ronr_ | [TK]D-Fender: /etc/init.d/zaptel isn't in debian startup yet, so I did it manually and now I'm back at the congestion error |
| 16:00.11 | [TK]D-Fender | tzafrir : he can't seem to get any PRI debug. Think you can pick this one up from here? |
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| 16:03.26 | ronr_ | tzafrir: do you need the asterisk output with pri debug enabled? |
| 16:03.55 | tzafrir | ronr_, do you actually have the channels in asterisk? |
| 16:03.59 | tzafrir | zap show channels |
| 16:04.34 | ronr_ | tzafrir: yep, 15 channels on incoming context with no set language and MOH interpret default |
| 16:04.47 | ronr_ | tzafrir: and 1 pseudo |
| 16:05.03 | tzafrir | Just 15 channels? Is that on purpose? (a fractional PRI)? |
| 16:05.30 | ronr_ | tzafrir: yeah, it's a ISDN 15 as they call it around here, half an E1 |
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| 16:06.15 | tzafrir | What is the output of 'pri show span 1'? |
| 16:06.39 | ronr_ | tzafrir: http://pastebin.com/m447b2f1a |
| 16:07.35 | Titanous | I'm trying to compile a app, and I get error: too few arguments to function ‘ast_channel_alloc’, It has six parameters currently. What do I need to add to it? |
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| 16:13.38 | ronr_ | hmm, I decided to try to recompile libpri, but there's an error now: too many arguments to function ‘libpri_copy_string’ |
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| 16:17.41 | codefreeze | Happy Holidays, Everyone!!!!! |
| 16:18.20 | zuez | Is there any application which will accept arbitrary user input in the form of DTMF tones? For example, if I prompt a user for a passcode when they dial into my DID? |
| 16:20.00 | [TK]D-Fender | zuez, "show application read" |
| 16:20.34 | [TK]D-Fender | ronr_, Go get the latest copies of *, Zap & PRI. |
| 16:21.06 | ronr_ | [TK]D-Fender: ok, just compiled the latest pri, will also do the others |
| 16:21.26 | zuez | [TK]D-Fender: Ah perfect! I'm surprised this application isn't one that's repeated in the asterisk dialplan chapters. |
| 16:21.36 | zuez | [TK]D-Fender: considering it could be used for internal extensions, etc. |
| 16:23.11 | [TK]D-Fender | zuez, its in the book in a few places and you should go over what ALL of the dilaplan applications do.. There is a comprehensive list in the book itself, and there is "show applications" and "show functions" as well |
| 16:23.19 | [TK]D-Fender | zuez, This isn't anything new. |
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| 16:26.54 | ronr_ | [TK]D-Fender: when configuring asterisk cpp fails sanity check? |
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| 16:28.22 | [TK]D-Fender | ronr_, There are certain newer versions I know * doesn't appreciate. You have to install the earlier libs for this. |
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| 16:29.01 | ronr_ | [TK]D-Fender: I was missing or having an incorrect g++ version |
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| 16:42.35 | ronr_ | [TK]D-Fender: I recompiled and restarted everything, but the results are still exactly the same |
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| 16:45.39 | tzafrir | cpp is the C Pre Processor, not c++ compiler |
| 16:46.21 | tzafrir | autoconf checks for cpp before it checks for cc. So that is the error you get when you don't have gcc installed |
| 16:47.05 | ronr_ | tzafrir: already fixed that by installing g++ (cc1plus couldn't be found) |
| 16:47.44 | tzafrir | next time install build-essenial |
| 16:49.31 | ronr_ | tzafrir: wasn't the first time I compiled * on this box, guess some updates screwed to stuff up |
| 16:49.34 | tzafrir | Anyway, the span is still down? |
| 16:49.52 | ronr_ | tzafrir: yep, no change |
| 16:50.07 | tzafrir | What versions of asterisk and co. are used? |
| 16:50.54 | tzafrir | Are there any alarms on the span? |
| 16:51.09 | ronr_ | tzafrir: * 1.4.16.2, libpri 1.4.3 and zaptel 1.4.7.1 |
| 16:51.33 | ronr_ | tzafrir: zttool says OK at the Alarms |
| 16:52.13 | tzafrir | pri intense debug span 1 |
| 16:52.18 | tzafrir | do you get anything? |
| 16:53.26 | ronr_ | tzafrir: http://pastebin.com/m19c0abb3 |
| 16:54.20 | tzafrir | in short: nothing |
| 16:54.27 | tzafrir | Just the SABMEs you send |
| 16:54.40 | tzafrir | pri no debug span 1 |
| 16:54.42 | ronr_ | tzafrir: I guess not, I'm new to it so it's not telling me much |
| 16:54.47 | ronr_ | tzafrir: already did that |
| 16:56.56 | tzafrir | The '>' in the beginning are messages you send. |
| 16:57.57 | tzafrir | I figure that the next thing would be to either call the telco or do some loop tests. |
| 16:58.08 | tzafrir | Not really sure about either of the two |
| 16:58.42 | ronr_ | tzafrir: ok, how would I do a loop test (it's already 6 pm here and christmas eve so I think the telco will be closed) |
| 16:59.11 | ManxPower | if you are not getting any messages on the D-channel from the telco then you call the telco and say "I'm not receiving any data on the D-channel". They will say "there is nothing wrong on our end" and then the line will magically begin to work. |
| 16:59.32 | ManxPower | I've done this a few times before. 8-) |
| 16:59.39 | ronr_ | ManxPower: :D |
| 17:00.00 | alrs | My experience echoes that of Manxpower. |
| 17:00.11 | ManxPower | If all else fails demand they send a tech with a "T-BERD" to test the D-Channel. |
| 17:01.12 | ManxPower | If you are not getting any alarms and not getting any D-Channel messages then it IS a telco problem |
| 17:01.35 | ronr_ | but that is what's happening? I try to call out over Zap and it says congestion |
| 17:02.06 | ManxPower | ronr_: you can't tell what is happening by Dialing. Only PRI debug will tell you |
| 17:02.23 | ManxPower | PRIs are pretty chatty, data is exchanged even when there are no active calls. |
| 17:02.32 | alrs | ronr_: Is this a trixbox? That congestion message is the catchall for any of the ISDN cause codes that come back from a PRI |
| 17:02.42 | tzafrir | ManxPower, there's nothing in the D channel |
| 17:03.02 | ManxPower | tzafrir: then all the work in the world won't make it work. |
| 17:03.06 | ronr_ | it's not trizbox, it's debian with asterisk compiled manually, pri debug says nothing |
| 17:03.13 | ManxPower | ronr_: then call your telco |
| 17:03.16 | ronr_ | ok |
| 17:03.20 | ronr_ | i will |
| 17:03.20 | alrs | what does "zap show channels" show ? |
| 17:03.35 | ronr_ | alrs: that I have 15 channels |
| 17:03.59 | ManxPower | alrs: it doesn't really matter. NOTHING he can do will fix the problem. |
| 17:04.37 | tzafrir | ManxPower, how can you be sure that this is not a local problem? |
| 17:04.47 | alrs | ronr_: Are you dialing using a zap channel or a zap group? |
| 17:05.04 | ronr_ | zap ground (Zap/g1) |
| 17:05.11 | alrs | ah ha |
| 17:05.18 | alrs | you have a group set in zapata.conf? |
| 17:05.22 | ronr_ | telco is closed |
| 17:05.26 | ronr_ | yes, group=1 |
| 17:05.35 | ManxPower | tzafrir: "pri debug span 1" does not give a "command not available" so he has libpri installed and Asterisk recognized it. The line is not in alarm, so it's not a zaptel problem. |
| 17:06.01 | alrs | ronr_: try dialing with Zap/1 instead of Zap/g1 |
| 17:06.38 | ronr_ | alrs: same result |
| 17:06.45 | alrs | no pri debug chatter at all? |
| 17:07.14 | ManxPower | I've had similar problems in about half of the PRI installs I've done. If there is no chatter in pri debug, then it is ALWAYS a telco problem, assuming libpri and zaptel are installed |
| 17:07.17 | ronr_ | alrs: nope, none |
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| 17:07.52 | alrs | there should be some failure messages, at least. |
| 17:07.53 | ManxPower | Usually the answer from my telco is "oh, we forgot to DACS the D-channel" |
| 17:08.20 | ronr_ | I'll call them again after christmas (which is thursday around here) |
| 17:08.22 | ManxPower | sometimes the answer is "we have no idea why it's not working, but we tore down and rebuilt the PRI" and then it starts working. |
| 17:08.44 | ManxPower | The telco I work with (a CLEC) is very good about such things. |
| 17:09.29 | alrs | ronr_: you've got a cutsheet and you're sure you've got the switchtype right? |
| 17:09.40 | ronr_ | alrs: no, and no |
| 17:10.15 | tzafrir | switchtype = euroisdn ? |
| 17:10.18 | ronr_ | I wasn't here when the telco installed the modem (emergency mail server crash) |
| 17:10.21 | ronr_ | tzafrir: yes |
| 17:10.29 | alrs | ronr_: Where are you? |
| 17:10.44 | ronr_ | alrs: Rotterdam (The Netherlands) |
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| 17:11.26 | ManxPower | I wanted to see Rotterdam when I was over there, only got to see Delft, Amsterdam, and Eindhoven (sp?) |
| 17:11.31 | pikos | hello |
| 17:11.52 | ronr_ | I used to live in Delft |
| 17:12.31 | ManxPower | ronr_: I grew up in Holland, Michigan, USA. |
| 17:12.42 | ronr_ | ManxPower: :) |
| 17:12.54 | ManxPower | Guess who founded the town 8-) |
| 17:13.18 | ronr_ | ManxPower: some guy from germany :S |
| 17:13.31 | ManxPower | 8-) |
| 17:14.01 | alrs | ronr_ have you posted your /etc/zaptel.conf to pastebin? |
| 17:14.40 | ronr_ | alrs: should be somewhere, I'll try and find it again |
| 17:15.05 | pikos | is there a way to config an x100p to dial slower? |
| 17:15.30 | ronr_ | new one: http://pastebin.com/m2b5c18a4 |
| 17:15.35 | ManxPower | pikos: Yes. Exactly how depends on how you define "slower" (yes there are different kinds of "slower" in Asterisk) |
| 17:16.41 | ManxPower | If you want to make it START dialing slower, then you add 1 or more "w" in front of the number i.e. Dial(Zap/1/ww5551212) |
| 17:16.41 | pikos | i just changed my service provider here in Greece and i am facing strange problems |
| 17:16.44 | tzafrir | pikos, add 'w'-s? |
| 17:16.58 | ManxPower | If you mean "longer DTMF tones", that is done in /etc/asterisk/zapata.conf, IIRC |
| 17:17.13 | ManxPower | each "w" is .5 second delay |
| 17:17.35 | ManxPower | *grumble* I don't want to go to the store today. |
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| 17:17.57 | teknoprep | can nat be the issue with voice quality at times? |
| 17:18.05 | alrs | ronr_ I'm looking at at conf example on voip-info.org for NL that is a little bit different in that it adds "crc4" at the end of the span definition |
| 17:18.06 | teknoprep | now if i have to NAT i always NAT using a 1:1 nat |
| 17:18.08 | pikos | ManxPower: you mean that each number will be dialed every 5 secs ? |
| 17:18.08 | ManxPower | teknoprep: no. |
| 17:18.17 | teknoprep | ManxPower. thanx |
| 17:18.21 | ManxPower | pikos: no, a "w" means 1/2 second delay |
| 17:18.37 | pikos | ok cool |
| 17:18.38 | alrs | ronr_ The comment "ISDN 15 or 30 from KPN Netherlands" http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk+config+zaptel.conf |
| 17:18.48 | pikos | i'll try it now |
| 17:18.49 | ManxPower | teknoprep: NAT issues never happen after the first 1 second of the call. |
| 17:19.08 | teknoprep | ManxPower is that why i get that grable of the first second of a call |
| 17:19.47 | ronr_ | alrs: I'm not on KPN, but maybe it says something useful anyway |
| 17:19.57 | alrs | ronr_ is there any chance that your dchan is on 17 instead of 16? |
| 17:20.07 | ManxPower | teknoprep: I doubt it, but maybe. Usually the audio is either one way, the audio never works, or the audio works only for the first second of the call, then fails (this can happen when reinvites are enabled) |
| 17:20.25 | teknoprep | ManxPower i don't have problems with audio reaching either person with NAT |
| 17:20.35 | teknoprep | ManxPower i know how to setup NAT pretty easily so it works |
| 17:20.43 | ronr_ | alrs: could be |
| 17:20.52 | ManxPower | teknoprep: *nod* NAT is not really hard to deal with |
| 17:20.52 | ronr_ | so channels 1-15 and dchan 17? |
| 17:20.53 | teknoprep | ManxPower my problem is i am having echo / delay / staticy sounding calls |
| 17:21.11 | ManxPower | teknoprep: those are three different problems |
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| 17:21.26 | teknoprep | ManxPower always seems to be on thing or the other |
| 17:21.28 | ManxPower | D-channels are never on 17 |
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| 17:21.53 | [TK]D-Fender | Well... almost never |
| 17:21.55 | teknoprep | ManxPower its probably becuase i only use VoIP connections |
| 17:22.04 | aurax | i have problem deciding which pbx dist is better, trixbox or elastix? |
| 17:22.07 | pikos | ManxPower: it is working !!! thanx very very much!!! |
| 17:22.30 | ManxPower | aurax: You will have to ask on a different channel. We do not use, support, or recommend GUIs on this channel. |
| 17:22.50 | [TK]D-Fender | aurax, Same shit, different smell |
| 17:23.13 | [TK]D-Fender | aurax, Its all just * + FreePBX + CentOS, so whats the difference? |
| 17:23.14 | ronr_ | adding crc4 to my zaptel.conf causes zttool to give me a blue alarm / recovering cycle |
| 17:23.19 | teknoprep | aurax, the only benefit to elastix is it uses 1.4 instead of 1.2 of asterisk |
| 17:23.45 | [TK]D-Fender | teknoprep, Except from what I've read Trixbox is converting to 1.4 |
| 17:23.52 | teknoprep | yeah it is |
| 17:23.55 | teknoprep | taking forever tho |
| 17:24.32 | aurax | aight |
| 17:24.35 | aurax | hehe |
| 17:24.58 | pikos | i have converted my trixbox into 1.4 asterisk and updated freepbx etc.. it is easy and it works nicely :) |
| 17:25.20 | teknoprep | agreed |
| 17:25.36 | teknoprep | i am working on a project right now... running asterisk inside of vserver |
| 17:25.39 | teknoprep | should work fine |
| 17:25.52 | [TK]D-Fender | teknoprep, As for your static/echo/whatever issues.... either your networking path is messed up, your provider sucks, your phones suck, or some nifty combination of the above |
| 17:25.53 | teknoprep | hosting multiple business from a single server |
| 17:26.09 | teknoprep | [TK]D-Fender i agree with you on all 3 of those |
| 17:26.25 | tzafrir | teknoprep, generally works fine. If you need Zaptel, you'll need an explicit mknod |
| 17:26.41 | [TK]D-Fender | teknoprep, And no, it isn't a NAT issue. With NAT you either get data through or you don't. |
| 17:26.54 | teknoprep | [TK]D-Fender well my LAN is perfect.. i can vouche for that... but my inet connection here sucks... Comcast... and www.bandwidth.com is there provider.. but i was under the assumption that bandwidth.com was decent |
| 17:27.11 | [TK]D-Fender | ~assume |
| 17:27.12 | jbot | About assumptions : http://www.moviewavs.com/php/sounds/?id=gog&media=WAVS&type=Movies&movie=Long_Kiss_Goodnight"e=assume.txt&file=assume.wav |
| 17:28.02 | pikos | i have an other question now :D.. about realtime extentions.. is it ok if i alter the extentions table and convert the priority from tinyint into a varchar? |
| 17:28.44 | ManxPower | It's not about bandwidth, it's about jitter |
| 17:30.40 | ronr_ | gotta go, thx for the help, I think I'll be back thursday |
| 17:34.51 | pikos | any one? |
| 17:39.52 | tzafrir | hmm, while you're here: there's a bug in the Mantis I don't understand well enough. |
| 17:39.59 | tzafrir | Simply a matter of ignorance |
| 17:40.12 | tzafrir | http://bugs.digium.com/11611 |
| 17:40.26 | tzafrir | I can easily replicate and confirm it |
| 17:40.45 | tzafrir | But I don't understand what a "master" channel is |
| 17:41.07 | tzafrir | What is "clear=1-31" used for? |
| 17:41.14 | Kobaz | is it possible to get the callerid name from voicepulse incomming? |
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| 17:43.08 | dlynes | Just curious which package it is debian needs to satisfy ncurses for zaptel? |
| 17:43.49 | Kobaz | libncurses5-dev |
| 17:44.38 | tzafrir | dlynes, ./install_prereq test |
| 17:44.53 | dlynes | Kobaz: thanks |
| 17:44.58 | dlynes | tzafrir: what's that? |
| 17:45.13 | tzafrir | shows you what you need to install to build Debian |
| 17:45.21 | Kobaz | The VoicePulse Connect for Asterisk service does not offer CallerID Name on inbound calls yet. In the future, CallerID Name will be an optional feature available for VoicePulse Connect for Asterisk accounts. |
| 17:45.25 | Kobaz | sdkfhsadkfhjaslkdfjhaslkfhasdf |
| 17:45.26 | tzafrir | s/Debian/Zaptel/ |
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| 17:45.57 | tzafrir | Currently only available for Zaptel. And only implemented for Debians and RedHats |
| 17:46.45 | dlynes | tzafrir: ah...doesn't seem to do the ncurses, though |
| 17:46.47 | tzafrir | with "install" instead of "test" it will actually install those packages |
| 17:46.57 | dlynes | tzafrir: only the required packages, not the optional |
| 17:47.00 | tzafrir | So you probably already have it installed |
| 17:47.20 | tzafrir | dlynes, that's an idea for an option to the script |
| 17:47.25 | dlynes | tzafrir: well, ncurses is optional...it's needed for make menuselect...not the main make |
| 17:47.42 | tzafrir | newt and libusb are certainly optional |
| 17:48.02 | tzafrir | ncurses isn't optional, sadly |
| 17:48.07 | tzafrir | try building without it |
| 17:49.36 | dlynes | Kobaz: sadly, that doesn't satisfy the requirement |
| 17:49.49 | tzafrir | dlynes, BTW: I have a pending bug to include such a script for Asterisk. There the distiction between required and optional is much more important |
| 17:50.22 | dlynes | tzafrir: ic...i saw that you wrote that script, too |
| 17:56.13 | akant2 | hey all, is there better way to get Caller-ID from Asterisk to display on a mythtv box? I am referencing http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+tips+MythTV+integration |
| 17:56.37 | akant2 | I was not sure if there was something more integrated no-adays? |
| 17:56.39 | Kobaz | dlynes: hmm, well you definitly need that, you also need libncurses5 which should be already installed |
| 17:56.59 | dlynes | Kobaz: yeah...got that installed, too |
| 17:57.05 | karleeto | OK, for some reason, my dial by name directory doesnt work, it just hangs up on you |
| 17:57.13 | dlynes | Kobaz: when that didn't work, i installed all the stuff for libncurses4, too |
| 17:57.19 | dlynes | Kobaz: and still not working |
| 17:57.23 | karleeto | all names are recorded, all are using default VM context |
| 17:58.03 | Kobaz | mmm |
| 17:58.07 | Kobaz | oh |
| 17:58.11 | Kobaz | dlynes: did you rerun ./configure |
| 17:58.41 | dlynes | Kobaz: did just now, when you mentioned it...still doesn't work |
| 17:58.50 | Kobaz | lemme see what i got |
| 17:59.23 | dlynes | Kobaz: but yet, according to configure, all the checks for ncurses pass |
| 17:59.24 | Kobaz | libncurses5 libncurses5-dev libncursesw5 ncurses-base ncurses-bin |
| 17:59.41 | dlynes | Kobaz: lemme check ncurses-base...that's the only one I haven't tried |
| 17:59.53 | dlynes | Kobaz: but that's already installed |
| 18:00.05 | Kobaz | and you did a make menuconfig |
| 18:00.12 | Kobaz | and it still shows up as unavailable? |
| 18:00.43 | dlynes | Kobaz: stupid |
| 18:00.53 | dlynes | Kobaz: if libnewt and libusb are missing |
| 18:01.02 | Kobaz | heh |
| 18:01.04 | dlynes | Kobaz: then it says ncurses is missing |
| 18:01.44 | dlynes | Kobaz: nvm...it's still bitching when I run make menuselect, but not configure |
| 18:02.06 | dlynes | Kobaz: and yet all the configure checks pass |
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| 18:02.13 | Kobaz | those punks |
| 18:03.24 | dlynes | Kobaz: oh well...i've wasted enough time on it...just going to install all the drivers instead |
| 18:03.59 | Kobaz | i already had all the ncurses stuff installed and i did a config and make menuconfig and it just worked |
| 18:04.09 | Kobaz | i guess check out the config.log |
| 18:04.23 | Kobaz | and as a last resort check the source of menuconfig |
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| 18:05.36 | dlynes | Kobaz: yeah...seems to not be finding the ncurses include files, but found everything else for ncurses |
| 18:09.02 | Kobaz | dpkg -L libncurses5-dev | grep include |
| 18:09.23 | tzafrir | dlynes, huh? what error message do you get? |
| 18:09.52 | Kobaz | dlynes: if that works fine, you have the include files, and the zaptel script is borken |
| 18:13.12 | tzafrir | dlynes, ping |
| 18:16.26 | dlynes | tzafrir: http://pastebin.ca/831211 |
| 18:16.53 | dlynes | Kobaz: yeah...i've got the ncurses.h file in /usr/include, where it should be |
| 18:17.23 | Qwell | make distclean |
| 18:17.58 | tzafrir | dlynes, first-off 'make menuselect' is an optional step |
| 18:19.13 | s0lid | !taray Siakol - Kabilang Mundo - 01 - Kabilang Mundo.mp3 ::INFO:: 6.8MB |
| 18:19.14 | s0lid | !taray Siakol - Kabilang Mundo - 02 - Plastik.mp3 ::INFO:: 5.3MB |
| 18:19.14 | s0lid | !taray Siakol - Kabilang Mundo - 03 - Nilalang.mp3 ::INFO:: 5.5MB |
| 18:19.14 | s0lid | !taray Siakol - Kabilang Mundo - 04 - Basted.mp3 ::INFO:: 6.4MB |
| 18:19.24 | s0lid | !taray Siakol - Kabilang Mundo - 05 - Kwarto.mp3 ::INFO:: 5.3MB |
| 18:19.24 | s0lid | !taray Siakol - Kabilang Mundo - 06 - Gobyerno.mp3 ::INFO:: 5.7MB |
| 18:19.24 | s0lid | !taray Siakol - Kabilang Mundo - 07 - Lakas Tama (Panibagong Tama).mp3 ::INFO:: 7.4MB |
| 18:19.24 | s0lid | !taray Siakol - Kabilang Mundo - 08 - Gabay.mp3 ::INFO:: 9.2MB |
| 18:19.24 | s0lid | !taray Siakol - Kabilang Mundo - 09 - Aanhin.mp3 ::INFO:: 6.9MB |
| 18:19.25 | s0lid | !taray Siakol - Kabilang Mundo - 10 - Kung Walang Ikaw.mp3 ::INFO:: 5.9MB |
| 18:19.28 | *** mode/#asterisk [+b *!*n=_freq@210.213.198.*] by Qwell |
| 18:19.28 | *** kick/#asterisk [s0lid!i=north@pdpc/sponsor/digium/Qwell] by Qwell (Qwell) |
| 18:19.55 | Kobaz | heh |
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| 18:21.51 | karleeto | OK, for some reason, my dial by name directory doesnt work, it just hangs up on you |
| 18:22.06 | karleeto | all names are recorded, all are using default VM context, anyone know what else i may be forgetting or what the problem might be? |
| 18:22.24 | [TK]D-Fender | Qwell, batting 1000 today.... |
| 18:22.55 | [TK]D-Fender | karleeto, go prove that dtmf is functional, then show us your configs and the CLI output of your failed attempt at verbose 10 |
| 18:22.56 | [TK]D-Fender | pab |
| 18:22.59 | [TK]D-Fender | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ |
| 18:23.00 | Qwell | sarcasm? |
| 18:23.18 | [TK]D-Fender | Qwell, No, just a convenient play on words :) |
| 18:23.21 | karleeto | [TK]D-Fender: alight |
| 18:23.35 | Qwell | must be too early |
| 18:23.52 | [TK]D-Fender | Qwell, brace for extra innings :) |
| 18:26.15 | karleeto | http://rafb.net/p/IPRjUs58.html |
| 18:28.07 | [TK]D-Fender | karleeto, Um... that isn't app_directory, and doesn't tell us anything. Nor did you show your configs. |
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| 18:28.24 | teknoprep | hey all |
| 18:28.26 | [TK]D-Fender | karleeto, How is it you think we know all about this 3rd party script you seem to be running? |
| 18:28.30 | karleeto | [TK]D-Fender: that was one of your requests, im working on it |
| 18:28.38 | karleeto | [TK]D-Fender: trixbox |
| 18:28.54 | [TK]D-Fender | karleeto, You can stop right now.... |
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| 18:29.06 | teknoprep | [TK]D-Fender, do you have an application that you would recomend... that does this... a windows / linux based app.. non-web based. that can transfer calls... show you when ppl are on the phone ... allow chatting between users ... see what calls are in the parking lot |
| 18:29.06 | karleeto | [TK]D-Fender: ? |
| 18:29.10 | [TK]D-Fender | karleeto, Their junk is not supported here. |
| 18:29.20 | karleeto | you know what dude |
| 18:29.48 | karleeto | i have just about enough of your grumpy ass bullshit over the last 6 months. you can kiss my round white ass and fuck off |
| 18:29.51 | teknoprep | karleeto, its just how [TK]D-Fender is... take it with stride bro |
| 18:30.03 | karleeto | you think you're smart, well i got news for you buddy |
| 18:30.17 | karleeto | teknoprep: ive tried for months |
| 18:30.25 | karleeto | sarcastic ass bastard |
| 18:30.30 | [TK]D-Fender | teknoprep, there are other GUI panels that use AMI. Go check the WIKI for a list of them. I recall ones named "Asterisk Receptionist", and I forget the other that went through some name changes |
| 18:30.46 | teknoprep | karleeto, [TK]D-Fender is one of the better asterisk lusers i know |
| 18:31.02 | teknoprep | karleeto, he is set in his ways no doubt.. .but he still knows what he is talking about |
| 18:31.43 | [TK]D-Fender | karleeto, You know their stuff isn't supported here and you keep on trying. What is it you think you're doing? I'm sorry you feel jilted by our lack of support for painful to support 3rd party code, but you knew that walking in the door. |
| 18:31.46 | Kobaz | hmm, savings account rates keep going down down :( |
| 18:32.27 | [TK]D-Fender | karleeto, Go turn up AGI debug and see if you cal tell what its doing. |
| 18:32.39 | [TK]D-Fender | s/cal/can/ |
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| 18:35.11 | [TK]D-Fender | *sigh* |
| 18:36.04 | karleeto | [TK]D-Fender: i'm sorry, just on edge, UPS screwed me this morning on dropping off 15 polycoms and a sangoma cardd |
| 18:36.28 | karleeto | voip-supply charged me an extra $54, and i'm gonna be dealing with all this on xmas |
| 18:36.30 | [TK]D-Fender | karleeto, By not doing so I take it? |
| 18:36.45 | [TK]D-Fender | karleeto, Oh and voipsupplys prices are really inflated. |
| 18:36.56 | karleeto | [TK]D-Fender: yeah, and saying that they came by and i'm "on a holiday" |
| 18:36.57 | [TK]D-Fender | karleeto, I'd recommend you head to www.telephonydepot.com. |
| 18:37.00 | karleeto | holiday my ass |
| 18:37.00 | karleeto | lol |
| 18:37.18 | [TK]D-Fender | karleeto, TD has considerably better pricing and shockingly fast turnaround. |
| 18:37.44 | karleeto | [TK]D-Fender: cool, thanks man, i will keep the address |
| 18:38.00 | karleeto | [TK]D-Fender: vs gives me deals though, will these people? |
| 18:38.21 | karleeto | [TK]D-Fender: is there a certain person i should speak with |
| 18:38.21 | karleeto | ? |
| 18:38.48 | [TK]D-Fender | karleeto, what kind of deal did you get? |
| 18:39.14 | [TK]D-Fender | karleeto, everything is relative.... discounted expensive may still be expensive... |
| 18:39.18 | karleeto | [TK]D-Fender: i get about 25 off 501s and 150 or so off of advertised sangoma prices |
| 18:39.27 | karleeto | [TK]D-Fender: yeah, i know, lol |
| 18:39.46 | [TK]D-Fender | karleeto, give me exact figures and I'll let you know who competes |
| 18:40.23 | [TK]D-Fender | karleeto, There is also www.digiumcards.com . No Sangoma gear, but slightly better Polycom pricing still. |
| 18:40.32 | karleeto | [TK]D-Fender: i paid 950 for a sangoma A40004D card (8fxo) |
| 18:41.35 | pikos | it seems that i can't get the ResponseTimeout application installed in asterisk 1.4.14, is it something extra? how can i install it? |
| 18:42.16 | Qwell | digiumcards.com? Aren't they the ones that buy used cards for like $100 and turn around and sell them as new? |
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| 18:42.32 | karleeto | Qwell: i think so, hahaha |
| 18:42.48 | [TK]D-Fender | karleeto, $903.00 |
| 18:42.48 | [TK]D-Fender | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:42.56 | Qwell | voiceinternational or whatever |
| 18:43.00 | karleeto | [TK]D-Fender: awesome! thanks for the tip man |
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| 18:43.43 | [TK]D-Fender | karleeto, looks like my previous quip turned out real... |
| 18:43.50 | [TK]D-Fender | karleeto, And what about your Polycoms? |
| 18:44.40 | [TK]D-Fender | I seem to be spreading the "cheaper elsewhere" around a lot these days.... |
| 18:45.45 | [TK]D-Fender | at my best friend's birthday party last friday his brother and SO ordered a bottle of wine. I pulled out my cell and surfed up the SAQ's price on it... 13.96 instead of the $40 they were charged |
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| 18:54.18 | Qwell | $14 bottle of wine - must have been pretty awesome |
| 18:55.24 | [TK]D-Fender | Qwell, a vintage Chateau Couche-Tard or perhaps a Cuvee du Boni-Soir |
| 18:56.02 | [TK]D-Fender | Qwell, You know you can get some real 4 star wines for 20$ if you know what you're doing.... |
| 18:56.39 | Qwell | $6 box of wine from walmart tastes the same as a $3000 bottle, IMO :p |
| 18:57.07 | [TK]D-Fender | Qwell, cheap date you are! |
| 18:58.55 | drmessano | Qwell: and you get to keep the box afterwards |
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| 19:07.32 | tzafrir_laptop | drmessano, buy a 3000$ box for 6$, then |
| 19:08.21 | tzafrir_laptop | Or maybe it's even hand-made. So just make one yourself |
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| 19:11.29 | drmessano | lol |
| 19:11.49 | Qwell | they should make an expensive boxed wine |
| 19:13.12 | drmessano | They just need to bring back Seagrams Golden Wine Coolers |
| 19:13.20 | drmessano | Thats about a boxed wine |
| 19:21.07 | lmadsen | funny thing about boxed wine is it tends to be more consistant than corked |
| 19:22.58 | [TK]D-Fender | lmadsen, well bottles with real cork can rot which is why you sniff the cork to make sure it hasn't gone bad. |
| 19:23.18 | lmadsen | hence my comment above |
| 19:23.18 | [TK]D-Fender | lmadsen, Artificial corks are much less susceptable |
| 19:25.59 | lmadsen | the boxes of empty 1.5L wine bottles and a rack of empty bottles of decent wines will attest to my wine drinking sk1llz |
| 19:28.17 | [TK]D-Fender | lmadsen, wit-a-Z y0! |
| 19:28.33 | lmadsen | huh? |
| 19:28.49 | lmadsen | oh... nevermind |
| 19:28.57 | [TK]D-Fender | lmadsen, go have another drink :) |
| 19:29.03 | lmadsen | that's the problem |
| 19:29.14 | lmadsen | trying to quit intoxicants |
| 19:29.39 | lmadsen | ugh |
| 19:29.40 | lmadsen | :) |
| 19:29.52 | lmadsen | not really quit... well... quit one, and cut back on the other |
| 19:30.42 | [TK]D-Fender | lmadsen, Quit which, and cut back on which? |
| 19:30.59 | lmadsen | one and the other |
| 19:31.20 | lmadsen | quit smoking, and cut back drinking |
| 19:33.36 | [TK]D-Fender | Alrighty... gotta head out for a bit back later... |
| 19:33.42 | lmadsen | lates |
| 19:36.13 | pikos | \quit init 0 |
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| 19:58.28 | Titanous | I'm trying to get asterisk talking to a Allworx PBX. I have outbound calls trough the Allworx working, but incoming calls aren't doing anything. Can anyone help me decipher the SIP debug? http://pastebin.ca/831293 |
| 20:04.16 | Corydon76-dig | Titanous: wrong password |
| 20:04.26 | lmadsen | Corydon76-dig: howdy! |
| 20:04.51 | Corydon76-dig | Titanous: also, make sure you have pedantic=yes in sip.conf |
| 20:04.58 | Corydon76-dig | Afternoon, lmadsen |
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| 20:07.15 | Brijn | Hello all |
| 20:08.03 | lmadsen | howdy |
| 20:08.14 | lmadsen | because it's WAY too cold in here |
| 20:08.32 | Corydon76-dig | lmadsen: you talk too fast to be Southern |
| 20:08.39 | lmadsen | that is also true |
| 20:08.41 | lmadsen | I'm a fake |
| 20:08.59 | Titanous | Corydon76-dig, it's the same password that it registers successfully with |
| 20:09.38 | Brijn | I'm trying to get automon working.. Thing I followed what is in voip-info.. But can't get it work on last stable release.. Any magic needed? |
| 20:09.38 | Corydon76-dig | Okay, it's possible that you have more than one dialog happening at once |
| 20:09.50 | Corydon76-dig | Each new dialog generates a new nonce |
| 20:10.14 | Corydon76-dig | It's possible that you're responding to a stale nonce |
| 20:13.30 | Brijn | Is there special magic to automon? |
| 20:13.55 | Titanous | Corydon76-dig, what do I do about it? Also, what does pedantic do for me? |
| 20:14.57 | Corydon76-dig | Titanous: don't know, and it might help |
| 20:15.11 | Corydon76-dig | I am not one of the big SIP experts |
| 20:24.02 | lmadsen | is there really such a thing? :) |
| 20:24.22 | Corydon76-dig | as a SIP expert? |
| 20:28.23 | lmadsen | ya |
| 20:29.03 | Corydon76-dig | Well, oej |
| 20:29.41 | lmadsen | 85% :) |
| 20:30.31 | lmadsen | ok, now that I finally got my infrastructure setup again at my parents house after a bunch of network runaround, I'm too cold and tired to work anymore... off to read I guess. Back later |
| 20:31.30 | Brijn | Anyone a suggestion for automon. or is it non functional in 1.4 atm? |
| 20:32.41 | lmadsen | should work... just haven't really tried it |
| 20:36.00 | Brijn | Google, turns up quite a few hits, all problems, no solutions (or at least none that work for me :-) |
| 20:40.56 | Brijn | It's weird.. It listens to DTMF, the cli shows it under features.. It just doesn't do anything :( |
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| 20:45.15 | katsuodo | [TK]D-Fender, Hello question? |
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| 20:53.08 | cesar_CR | hi guys!! anybody with a script for QoS ??? |
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| 21:00.54 | Brijn | cesar_CR: http://www.krisk.org/astlinux/misc/astshape |
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| 21:04.30 | cesar_CR | wow thanks Brijn |
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| 21:13.28 | mike-ekim | Hi, can someone help me im having a problem registering my office phone against my home PBX |
| 21:13.48 | mike-ekim | i enabled 5060 tcp and udp on my cisco |
| 21:16.53 | [TK]D-Fender | mike-ekim, go read this : |
| 21:16.55 | [TK]D-Fender | ~sipnat |
| 21:16.56 | jbot | [~sipnat] Quick guide on configuring * + SIP behind NAT : http://www.aocomputing.net/?p=3 otherwise check the WIKI at http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+SIP+NAT+solutions |
| 21:19.56 | mike-ekim | thanks |
| 21:22.39 | ManxPower | enabling 5060 TCP does nothing |
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| 21:32.25 | [TK]D-Fender | ManxPower, No.... it exposes another unused port so that any TCP stack he's got can be exploited 1 more way ;) |
| 21:32.52 | ManxPower | [TK]D-Fender: well there is that. 8-) |
| 21:33.49 | mike-ekim | 8D |
| 21:33.51 | mike-ekim | awesome! |
| 21:34.01 | [TK]D-Fender | ManxPower, See.. bonus! |
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| 21:36.32 | riddlebox | how do I answer a call waiting call? |
| 21:37.04 | [TK]D-Fender | riddlebox, obviously depends on your phoone. |
| 21:38.13 | ManxPower | [TK]D-Fender: you'd think riddlebox would know that by now. |
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| 21:42.19 | [TK]D-Fender | ManxPower, I'm sure there is a name for the state where the brain is operating on the bare minimal synaptic functioning. |
| 21:47.55 | [TK]D-Fender | tzafrir_laptop, lol..... its more comfortable to generalize about them as a whole :) |
| 21:48.15 | [TK]D-Fender | tzafrir_laptop, But that was an individualistic comment. |
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| 21:50.20 | ManxPower | tzafrir_laptop: that state would be Mississippi |
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| 22:13.18 | GuyOCanada-[ZzZ] | blah i have 400 tabs open in firefox !! |
| 22:14.53 | [TK]D-Fender | GuyOCanada, Alt-F4 |
| 22:15.20 | lesouvage | Does the line "zaptel disabled echo canceler because of tone (tx) on channel ....." ring a bell to you. It appears when the isdn30 of the telco stops working. Any clue? |
| 22:16.03 | lesouvage | This happens once in a while (2, 3 days) |
| 22:16.28 | Corydon76-dig | lesouvage: fax tone |
| 22:17.17 | lesouvage | Corydon76-dig: inbound or outbound? |
| 22:18.02 | GuyOCanada | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:18.11 | GuyOCanada | is that true? |
| 22:18.21 | GuyOCanada | copied from the wiki |
| 22:18.42 | lesouvage | Corydon76-dig: the message is given for every channel both tx and rx |
| 22:22.04 | lesouvage | Corydon76-dig: and the last two lines are: Zaptel: Master changed to WPE1/1 Zaptel: Master changed to WPE1/0 |
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| 22:25.41 | tzafrir | lesouvage, you got a fax? |
| 22:25.50 | Brijn | Anyone here with automon working in 1.4 |
| 22:28.59 | lesouvage | tzafrir: yes, there are 2 faxes on the Asterisk box connected with a grandstream ata and two faxes on the Tenovis PBX that is connected with an isdn30 trunk between the Asterisk box and the tenovis pbx. |
| 22:30.30 | lesouvage | The connection with the outside world is done with an isdn30 trunk that goes down random once every 2, 3 days. |
| 22:30.35 | tzafrir | So one line became non-available? |
| 22:30.59 | lesouvage | tzafrir: yes, the telco isdn30 trunk |
| 22:32.47 | Kobaz | anyone familiar with getting h323 clients going with asteirsk and ooh323 (or something equivalent) |
| 22:34.12 | lesouvage | tzafrir: the internal isdn30 trunk between asterisk and the Tenovi pbx keeps working ok. We use one Sangoma 2 * E1 card |
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| 22:46.34 | Corydon76-dig | lesouvage: if the master changes, that probably means that you lost sync on your E1 line |
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| 22:48.46 | lesouvage | Corydon76-dig: is this something that can happen just 2 or 3 times a week if it is caused by the Asterisk box or could this be a telco problem? |
| 22:49.15 | Corydon76-dig | It's a line problem... could be either end |
| 22:51.54 | lesouvage | Corydon76-dig: it is a nasty problem because I run out of options to look for. We actually did anything we could think of. What could be the connection with the fax? |
| 22:52.20 | Corydon76-dig | Red herring |
| 22:52.50 | Corydon76-dig | Are you getting into red alarm? |
| 22:52.59 | Corydon76-dig | or even a yellow? |
| 22:53.30 | Kobaz | blue |
| 22:53.38 | lesouvage | Corydon76-dig: no, the lights stay green and there is nothing to find in the wanpipe loggins or in the Asterisk loggings. |
| 22:54.02 | Corydon76-dig | lesouvage: contact your reseller or the manufacturer for support |
| 22:54.47 | lesouvage | Corydon76-dig: I am the reseller <;-( |
| 22:56.03 | lesouvage | Corydon76-dig: When we make an outbound call we hear a busy tone that (most likely) must be provided by the telco. |
| 22:59.41 | lesouvage | Corydon76-dig and Tzafrir: thanks for the input. |
| 23:00.11 | WilliamK | can anyone tell me what the rtp packet size is on * by default? |
| 23:02.54 | Corydon76-dig | WilliamK: depends upon the codec |
| 23:03.07 | WilliamK | g711u |
| 23:03.10 | Corydon76-dig | for ilbc, it's 30ms, for almost everything else, it's 20ms |
| 23:03.32 | WilliamK | finally got an ATA that understands it |
| 23:10.17 | WilliamK | oooo silence when I said that.... |
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