| 00:00.21 | WizBomb | I can call my IP500 from my Softphone |
| 00:00.30 | WizBomb | but cna not call from my IP500 to my Softphone |
| 00:00.49 | WizBomb | Unable to Create channel of type 'SIP' (cause 3 - No Route to destination) |
| 00:00.52 | WizBomb | is the error i get |
| 00:00.53 | *** join/#asterisk saftsack (n=saftsack@pD9E047F2.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 00:01.12 | [TK]D-Fender | WizBomb, pastebin the CLI output of a failed attempt with SIP DEBUG enabled. |
| 00:01.13 | [TK]D-Fender | ~pb |
| 00:01.13 | jbot | A Pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste |
| 00:01.14 | [TK]D-Fender | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ |
| 00:01.43 | WizBomb | nevermind on that |
| 00:01.47 | WizBomb | just fixed it |
| 00:01.49 | TrentCreek | ~deelete book |
| 00:01.53 | TrentCreek | ~delete book |
| 00:01.54 | jbot | ACTION glares at book and then takes every step necessary to completely delete book and destroy any and all evidence that book ever existed |
| 00:01.59 | TrentCreek | ~destory book |
| 00:02.10 | TrentCreek | ~destroy book |
| 00:02.11 | jbot | no |
| 00:02.19 | *** join/#asterisk Schattenzorn (n=shadowwr@nbra-d9ba3fd2.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 00:02.20 | WizBomb | had to add the Local SIP Port on the phone web interface |
| 00:02.21 | TrentCreek | yes dammit |
| 00:02.28 | TrentCreek | ~destroy book |
| 00:02.29 | jbot | no |
| 00:02.30 | *** kick/#asterisk [TrentCreek!i=north@pdpc/sponsor/digium/Qwell] by Qwell (Qwell) |
| 00:02.43 | enalert | lol |
| 00:02.45 | WizBomb | now I just gotta figure out why |
| 00:02.50 | *** join/#asterisk TrentCreek (i=GeekBoy@cpe-70-117-207-168.rgv.res.rr.com) |
| 00:03.01 | WizBomb | when i call from IP500 to Softphone, my IP500 keeps playing the ringing noise |
| 00:03.09 | WizBomb | even though I can talk to the softphone from the IP500 |
| 00:03.56 | TrentCreek | maybe Asterisk or voice inititiation is creating the ringing? |
| 00:04.25 | WizBomb | that weird |
| 00:04.29 | WizBomb | it doesnt happen evertime |
| 00:04.46 | *** join/#asterisk neax (n=newdle@203-114-176-86.dsl.sta.inspire.net.nz) |
| 00:04.55 | TrentCreek | On one of my DID services there is a option to "force ring" |
| 00:05.12 | TrentCreek | in case of detection problems |
| 00:05.39 | WizBomb | i am using the Asterisk GUI if that helps |
| 00:07.38 | [TK]D-Fender | ~book |
| 00:07.39 | jbot | Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf |
| 00:08.35 | [TK]D-Fender | WizBomb, No, its doesn't |
| 00:08.50 | [TK]D-Fender | WizBomb, Where is your softphone relative to * and your IP 500? |
| 00:09.08 | [TK]D-Fender | TrentCreek, And WTF do you think you were trying to do there? |
| 00:11.37 | WizBomb | bah, im gonna restart my asterisk server |
| 00:11.58 | WizBomb | ive lost ability for softphone to call my IP500 even though i didnt change anything |
| 00:12.18 | *** join/#asterisk Edwin_Quijada (n=macaruch@190.94.9.27) |
| 00:12.21 | Edwin_Quijada | hi |
| 00:12.26 | WizBomb | supz |
| 00:12.34 | *** join/#asterisk cpm (n=Chip@pdpc/supporter/active/cpm) |
| 00:12.47 | Edwin_Quijada | i am trying to connect my asterisk to voicepulse but i am newbie in this |
| 00:13.06 | WizBomb | if you use GUI they have settings already preconfigured |
| 00:13.08 | *** join/#asterisk riddlebox (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) |
| 00:13.16 | WizBomb | I wish they had settings preconfigured for ViaTalk |
| 00:13.45 | Edwin_Quijada | i am using the files conf with asterisk |
| 00:13.51 | [TK]D-Fender | Edwin_Quijada, Good. |
| 00:13.56 | *** join/#asterisk Ciber311 (n=Ciber311@user-1087eds.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 00:14.20 | Edwin_Quijada | but i dont know how start to get this |
| 00:14.35 | [TK]D-Fender | Edwin_Quijada, http://support.viatalk.com/?_a=knowledgebase&_j=subcat&_i=60&nav=+%26gt%3B+%3Ca+href%3D%27index.php%3F_a%3Dknowledgebase%26_j%3Dsubcat%26_i%3D42%27%3EInstallation+Guides%2FTech%3C%2Fa%3E |
| 00:14.39 | Edwin_Quijada | i used asterisk just internal |
| 00:18.04 | Edwin_Quijada | i want to do trunk with my iax |
| 00:18.24 | *** join/#asterisk mihinomenest (i=3S2A@66.255.220.17) |
| 00:18.25 | Edwin_Quijada | between asterisk and voicepulse |
| 00:18.49 | Edwin_Quijada | when we do trunk the calls out using sip or iax? |
| 00:23.40 | *** join/#asterisk davevg-btwtech (n=davevg-b@nj-67-76-177-147.sta.embarqhsd.net) |
| 00:25.28 | Ciber311 | heh |
| 00:28.16 | WizBomb | now its acting weird, i'll gonna reinstall |
| 00:28.43 | WizBomb | i lost the ability to control the config files in the GUI |
| 00:31.44 | riddlebox | when I run ztcfg -vvv I get this, which means that the card is setup right, right? http://pastebin.ca/752060 |
| 00:33.09 | [TK]D-Fender | riddlebox, No, that does not prove that chan_zap was compiled with * or that Zapata.conf is anything resembling SANE. |
| 00:33.28 | TrentCreek | ~delete book |
| 00:33.29 | jbot | ACTION glares at book and then takes every step necessary to completely delete book and destroy any and all evidence that book ever existed |
| 00:36.24 | [TK]D-Fender | TrentCreek, ...... |
| 00:38.13 | Edwin_Quijada | if i do trunk with one voip provider my softphone should be iax or sip? |
| 00:38.33 | Edwin_Quijada | i am doing trunk with iax |
| 00:38.49 | [TK]D-Fender | Edwin_Quijada, Doesn't matter. * will bridge the 2 sides togeter regardless of technologies involved. |
| 00:40.20 | [TK]D-Fender | ok, heading out.. later all |
| 00:40.49 | WizBomb | later |
| 00:41.27 | TrentCreek | ~delete book |
| 00:41.28 | jbot | ACTION glares at book and then takes every step necessary to completely delete book and destroy any and all evidence that book ever existed |
| 00:42.03 | riddlebox | [TK]D-Fender, I need to have zaptel loaded when I compile asterisk right so that chan_zap will be seen right? |
| 00:42.46 | *** join/#asterisk katsuodo (n=musashi@ool-45776f4f.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 00:43.40 | k31th | sweet got my voicemail working |
| 00:43.53 | Guggemand | ~book |
| 00:43.54 | jbot | Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf |
| 00:44.01 | k31th | Guggemand: ? |
| 00:44.02 | Edwin_Quijada | [TK]D-Fender: i dont understand |
| 00:44.44 | katsuodo | why does parsing pick extconfig.conf? |
| 00:45.21 | katsuodo | pardon manners everyone hello |
| 00:46.07 | WizBomb | sup |
| 00:46.11 | peanut- | [TK]D-Fender: I configured it like it says in the doc, regarding NAT on both ends, forwarded 10000-20000, and I get no sound on either end |
| 00:46.11 | peanut- | establishes the call though |
| 00:46.11 | peanut- | any idea where to start for debuging? |
| 00:46.52 | BBHoss | anybody know what packet loss sounds like on g729? |
| 00:47.01 | k31th | hell ? |
| 00:47.56 | BBHoss | im having a problem where the outside party hears a whooshing sound and the sound cuts out for 2 seconds, this is happening every 25-45 seconds |
| 00:48.17 | k31th | whooshing ? |
| 00:48.25 | BBHoss | yeah it is certainly wierd |
| 00:48.36 | BBHoss | the internal party dosen't notice it either |
| 00:48.37 | k31th | have you tried using ulaw or some thing |
| 00:49.05 | MooingLemur | Is there any documentation on how asterisk can interact with a channelized T1 in the US? I've only had experience with full PRIs so far. |
| 00:49.08 | k31th | iv had 1 way audio after a few mins on the phone randomly |
| 00:49.11 | k31th | on 729 |
| 00:49.12 | k31th | alot. |
| 00:49.13 | BBHoss | yes, it cuts out every few seconds as well, but doesnt have the whooshing sound |
| 00:49.27 | BBHoss | its quite odd |
| 00:49.39 | k31th | maybe your getting a whoosh distorted audio sort of sound? |
| 00:49.40 | BBHoss | i just noticed it after i updated my kernel and zaptel timers |
| 00:49.53 | BBHoss | no its the same whoosh every time |
| 00:50.00 | k31th | how odd |
| 00:50.09 | BBHoss | quite odd indeed |
| 00:50.14 | riddlebox | [TK]D-Fender, I had everything working, then I upgraded ubuntu, and now it wouldnt work, so I figured I'd just download the newest version of asterisk and zaptel drivers, but now none of it works |
| 00:50.38 | *** join/#asterisk jm|laptop (n=jamie@zen.jamiem.com) |
| 00:50.45 | riddlebox | well asterisk works, but now my zap channel |
| 00:50.52 | BBHoss | well, i guess i'll have to reinstall the box, as this is happening on more than one provider |
| 00:51.38 | BBHoss | are there any dumb-me guides for installing 1.4 on ubuntu or debian? (not from apt) |
| 00:51.58 | *** join/#asterisk jer (n=jtregunn@unaffiliated/jer) |
| 00:53.19 | k31th | riddlebox: i run asterisk on debian / ubuntu |
| 00:53.27 | k31th | wat did you do exactly ? |
| 00:54.00 | riddlebox | k31th, everything is compiled, and asterisk is up but the zaptel isnt working for some reason |
| 00:55.08 | BBHoss | ttyl |
| 00:55.55 | *** join/#asterisk remmo (n=junk@203.32.47.250) |
| 01:00.26 | riddlebox | k31th, nm I recompiled asterisk and now the zap channel is working again |
| 01:01.08 | k31th | sweet |
| 01:01.23 | k31th | probably broke some thing durring an update |
| 01:01.29 | k31th | at the src dep'd on |
| 01:01.34 | k31th | that |
| 01:04.21 | docelmo | don you just love compiling on linux? |
| 01:05.14 | Edwin_Quijada | my asterisk work fine with my internal softphones |
| 01:05.37 | Edwin_Quijada | now we need to call from internal to out |
| 01:05.54 | Edwin_Quijada | i want to do trunk with my provider |
| 01:06.03 | Edwin_Quijada | how can i do that ? |
| 01:06.13 | Edwin_Quijada | something place to do this |
| 01:06.15 | katsuodo | Question anyone in my zapata.conf I have my fxo_ks (channel 1) and fxs_ks (channel 4) pointing to the same context for directions is this ideal? |
| 01:09.18 | katsuodo | hello dlynes_ |
| 01:09.55 | dlynes_ | ohaya, katsuodo |
| 01:11.01 | dlynes_ | erm ohayo, i mean |
| 01:11.13 | katsuodo | ohio? |
| 01:11.42 | MooingLemur | Springfiled, Oh, hi Maude! |
| 01:12.54 | katsuodo | dlynes_ is it okay to have both channel 1 & 4 pointing to the same context in my zapata.conf file? |
| 01:13.01 | dlynes_ | katsuodo: yes |
| 01:13.29 | dlynes_ | katsuodo: and in answer to your first question, you're using a japanese name, so i figured it was morning where you were, so I said good morning, in Japanese |
| 01:14.15 | katsuodo | understood very much no pay attention, pardon |
| 01:15.28 | k31th | hum i cant seem to join a confrence i just created... |
| 01:15.44 | k31th | it plays confrence invalid and on the console i get this... |
| 01:15.48 | k31th | [Oct 28 02:14:10] WARNING[21809]: app_meetme.c:772 build_conf: Unable to open pseudo device |
| 01:15.59 | katsuodo | dlynes_ having problem serious with dialplan created |
| 01:16.16 | katsuodo | post may I |
| 01:19.51 | *** join/#asterisk BiG^DoG (n=BiG^DoG@c-71-204-211-58.hsd1.de.comcast.net) |
| 01:23.21 | k31th | anyone? |
| 01:23.38 | Nivex | bueller? |
| 01:24.13 | Aer0TeK | such is the case most of the time in this channel. I wish I knew what the problem is, sorry |
| 01:24.48 | Nivex | k31th: looks like /dev/zap/pseudo has a problem |
| 01:25.02 | Nivex | check perms and whether ztdummy is loaded |
| 01:25.14 | remmo | probably does not have a reak zaptel device |
| 01:25.37 | *** join/#asterisk CBU[^_^]M`` (n=love@210.213.145.10) |
| 01:25.53 | k31th | Nivex: prob ztdummy thanks |
| 01:27.41 | k31th | remmo: this is a test box has no pstn card in |
| 01:28.10 | k31th | iax trunks |
| 01:28.21 | *** join/#asterisk MrTelephone (n=test@S010600195b946fa3.ls.shawcable.net) |
| 01:28.36 | katsuodo | hello MrTelephone |
| 01:28.41 | MrTelephone | anyone know why some phones only display callerid for the first ring and some don't? this is using a cisco ata186 |
| 01:28.45 | MrTelephone | hi katsuodo |
| 01:28.59 | dlynes_ | katsuodo: if you want help, you must |
| 01:29.18 | dlynes_ | MrTelephone: cid comes in between the 1st and 2nd ring |
| 01:30.05 | katsuodo | dlynes_ ? |
| 01:30.20 | dlynes_ | you said 'post may I' |
| 01:30.26 | *** join/#asterisk ming_zym (n=ming_zym@220.181.54.120) |
| 01:30.57 | dlynes_ | k31th: you need a zaptel device installed and working, and loaded properly to be able to use meetme |
| 01:31.11 | katsuodo | where post? |
| 01:31.13 | *** join/#asterisk marcan (i=1337@host214-134.cvd.fit.edu) |
| 01:31.14 | k31th | dlynes_: can i not use ztdummy ? |
| 01:31.16 | dlynes_ | k31th: do an 'lsmod | grep zaptel' |
| 01:31.42 | k31th | zaptel 183396 2 zttranscode,ztdummy |
| 01:31.42 | k31th | crc_ccitt 2240 1 zaptel |
| 01:31.46 | dlynes_ | k31th: it probably either didn't load properly, you don't have it installed, or you failed to do a ztcfg -vvvvvvvvvv after loading it, and before running asterisk |
| 01:32.16 | dlynes_ | k31th: i suspect you probably didn't do ztcfg -vvvvvvvvvvv |
| 01:32.33 | Strom_M | ztcfg is good enough, you know |
| 01:32.47 | Strom_M | actually, i dont think you even have to run ztcfg if you're just using ztdummy |
| 01:32.47 | dlynes_ | Strom_M: yeah, but I like all those 'v's :) |
| 01:32.53 | Strom_M | jizz |
| 01:32.56 | k31th | ok i just ddid that |
| 01:33.00 | Strom_M | k31th: what user is asterisk running as? |
| 01:33.03 | k31th | and... it's still broken |
| 01:33.08 | k31th | asterisk |
| 01:33.13 | MrTelephone | dlynes, what makes it go away then.. a phone deficiency? |
| 01:33.16 | Strom_M | and does said user have permissions to write to /dev/zap/*? |
| 01:33.31 | MrTelephone | one of my phones do it too |
| 01:33.34 | dlynes_ | MrTelephone: don't answer the phone until the line's rung twice |
| 01:33.37 | MrTelephone | shows once and then goes away |
| 01:33.44 | dlynes_ | MrTelephone: that'll guarantee it'll work every single time |
| 01:33.48 | MrTelephone | it shows up but it goes away after the 3rd ring |
| 01:33.58 | dlynes_ | MrTelephone: oh...then that's a phone issue |
| 01:34.09 | Strom_M | MrTelephone: plug a buttset into the ATA186 and find out |
| 01:34.28 | MrTelephone | i bought a buttset without a digital readout :9 |
| 01:34.29 | MrTelephone | :( |
| 01:34.30 | MrTelephone | ever dumb eh |
| 01:34.35 | Strom_M | you dont need one |
| 01:34.41 | Strom_M | just put it in monitor mode and listen |
| 01:34.46 | MrTelephone | test for polarity? |
| 01:34.48 | MrTelephone | oh |
| 01:34.50 | Strom_M | is there an FSK burst between every ring cycle? |
| 01:35.01 | MrTelephone | probably not if its disappearing |
| 01:35.05 | Strom_M | uh |
| 01:35.08 | Strom_M | don't "probably" me |
| 01:35.10 | Strom_M | test! |
| 01:35.17 | Strom_M | ggogogogog |
| 01:35.33 | MrTelephone | Im trying to search what an FSK burst is |
| 01:35.40 | Strom_M | it sounds like modem data |
| 01:35.45 | Aer0TeK | frequency shift key? |
| 01:35.48 | MrTelephone | should be between every ring? |
| 01:36.26 | Strom_M | just listen and tell me what you hear, please |
| 01:36.41 | MrTelephone | I'm going to test tomorrow and I'll get back to you on that |
| 01:36.48 | Strom_M | ...why not now? |
| 01:36.58 | MrTelephone | its at my sisters place and she is out for the night |
| 01:37.05 | Strom_M | .... |
| 01:37.26 | katsuodo | dlynes_ posted on pastebin |
| 01:37.26 | MrTelephone | i have a motorola 2 piece cordless set.. one phone holds the callerid and one doesn't |
| 01:37.28 | MrTelephone | very wierd stuff |
| 01:37.46 | k31th | Strom_M: yes that user has access to that dir. |
| 01:37.49 | Strom_M | MrTelephone: two phones on the same base station? |
| 01:37.54 | MrTelephone | I lended out my butt phone too for christ sakes |
| 01:38.05 | MrTelephone | 1 base station and a seperate charge station |
| 01:38.08 | k31th | i chown'd it when i installed asterisk |
| 01:38.53 | Strom_M | MrTelephone: it's a problem with the telephone set then |
| 01:38.54 | MrTelephone | my dad has a corded phone hooked up to the same ata and it holds the number |
| 01:39.19 | MrTelephone | sucks becuase when shit like this happens people say "well it worked with the old telco" |
| 01:39.20 | katsuodo | dlynes_ no hear ring on analog phone channel 1 from someone dial from outside.\ |
| 01:39.37 | MrTelephone | I'll check the fsk though |
| 01:39.51 | MrTelephone | im working with some ARRIS SIP cable modems.. very nice crap |
| 01:39.54 | Strom_M | MrTelephone: if both cordless handsets are connected to the same base station, and only one works, then it is quite definitely the telephone set and not the ATA |
| 01:40.10 | MrTelephone | the base stations only charge |
| 01:40.20 | Strom_M | not the charge stations |
| 01:40.21 | MrTelephone | so I can't see it not being a problem with the ata if one works |
| 01:40.29 | Strom_M | the actual unit which interfaces with the phone line |
| 01:40.53 | MrTelephone | the phone sitting on the itnerface unit seems to hold the callerid |
| 01:41.01 | MrTelephone | so I should switch phones and see what happens |
| 01:41.12 | Strom_M | sure, try it |
| 01:41.26 | Strom_M | it's highly likely to be a problem with the handset |
| 01:41.54 | MrTelephone | itermitten too |
| 01:42.09 | Strom_M | what's "itermitten"? |
| 01:42.17 | Strom_M | do you mean "intermittent"? |
| 01:42.25 | k31th | Strom_M: asterisk user can write to that dir... yet i still get the same error |
| 01:42.26 | MrTelephone | yeah I spelled it how I say it |
| 01:42.28 | MrTelephone | sorry |
| 01:42.38 | MrTelephone | yeah now its holding |
| 01:42.47 | Strom_M | fucked-up phone handset then |
| 01:42.55 | Strom_M | k31th: what about the group |
| 01:42.56 | MrTelephone | im tired of these barely fcc certified pieces of crap cordless phones |
| 01:43.05 | k31th | asterisk:asterisk |
| 01:43.07 | Strom_M | show me the permissions for /dev/zap/pseudo |
| 01:43.11 | MrTelephone | made in guam and put a fake cert sticker on it |
| 01:43.11 | katsuodo | dlynes_ any idea? |
| 01:43.25 | Strom_M | MrTelephone: so don't buy shit phones. |
| 01:43.32 | MrTelephone | made in china sticker underneath a made in the usa sticker |
| 01:43.40 | MrTelephone | but I knew it smelled like a sweat shop |
| 01:43.52 | Strom_M | MrTelephone: please shut up, for the benefit of everyone else in the channel |
| 01:43.53 | k31th | drwxr-xr-x 2 asterisk asterisk 40 2007-10-26 17:24 pseudo |
| 01:44.01 | Strom_M | k31th: odd |
| 01:44.07 | Strom_M | oh |
| 01:44.07 | Strom_M | wait |
| 01:44.08 | Strom_M | duh |
| 01:44.15 | Strom_M | try setting 775 rather than 755 |
| 01:44.40 | MrTelephone | don't hitlerize the situation.. people must know the trutch |
| 01:44.42 | MrTelephone | truth |
| 01:44.47 | MrTelephone | they are even motorola handsets |
| 01:44.52 | Strom_M | godwin's law says you lose |
| 01:45.09 | MrTelephone | motorola doesn't seem to make good cordless phones |
| 01:45.22 | k31th | Strom_M: same error "that is not a valid confrence number" |
| 01:45.33 | Strom_M | k31th: no no no, what does the CLI show |
| 01:45.41 | k31th | [Oct 28 02:44:37] WARNING[22024]: app_meetme.c:772 build_conf: Unable to open pseudo device |
| 01:45.47 | MrTelephone | anyways strom take care thanks for the info |
| 01:45.54 | Strom_M | k31th: type |
| 01:45.58 | Strom_M | module load chan_zap.so |
| 01:46.21 | k31th | [Oct 28 02:45:45] WARNING[21994]: loader.c:627 load_resource: Module 'chan_zap.so' already exists. |
| 01:46.29 | Strom_M | try |
| 01:46.33 | Strom_M | zap restart |
| 01:46.56 | k31th | same |
| 01:47.04 | Strom_M | try restarting asterisk |
| 01:47.10 | k31th | tried that as well |
| 01:47.13 | k31th | restart now... |
| 01:47.29 | k31th | same |
| 01:47.31 | k31th | error |
| 01:47.39 | Strom_M | what about the permissions for just /dev/zap |
| 01:47.43 | k31th | I think if i hear the asterisk lady again. |
| 01:47.43 | Strom_M | what are those |
| 01:47.59 | Strom_M | k31th: her name is Allison |
| 01:47.59 | MrTelephone | k31th, when you compiled asteirsk do you see the flags --ZAPTEL_OPTIMIZATION? |
| 01:48.11 | k31th | drwxr-xr-x 3 asterisk asterisk 140 2007-10-28 02:26 zap |
| 01:48.22 | Strom_M | k31th: change that to 775 also |
| 01:48.26 | k31th | MrTelephone: I don't recall |
| 01:48.34 | Strom_M | then restart zaptel |
| 01:49.41 | k31th | same error |
| 01:50.56 | Strom_M | are you doing anything weird like running virtual machines? |
| 01:51.05 | k31th | no |
| 01:51.18 | Strom_M | which version of asterisk and zaptel? |
| 01:51.20 | k31th | this is a standard install of 1.4 on debian etch |
| 01:51.24 | k31th | 1.4 |
| 01:51.35 | Strom_M | more specific, please |
| 01:51.36 | katsuodo | dlynes_ do you have suggestion? |
| 01:52.53 | k31th | Strom_M: its the latest version of libpri zaptel and asterisk |
| 01:52.58 | k31th | i compiled it friday. |
| 01:53.10 | Strom_M | is it a tarball? svn checkout? |
| 01:53.26 | k31th | tarball. |
| 01:53.44 | Strom_M | please read me the version numbers :P |
| 01:54.55 | k31th | asterisk-1.4-current.tar.gz libpri-1.4.2.tar.gz zaptel-1.4.6.tar.gz |
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| 01:56.39 | Strom_M | *shrug* |
| 01:57.49 | k31th | yeah |
| 01:57.51 | k31th | this is lame |
| 02:00.43 | katsuodo | dlynes_ posted on pastebin |
| 02:02.45 | k31th | Strom_M: how anoyying is this |
| 02:04.38 | Strom_M | more annoying than your misspelling, that's for sure |
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| 02:11.51 | k31th | Strom_M: ok |
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| 02:22.58 | Aer0TeK | Something is not right here. I'm getting no ringback when asterisk dials an extension even when the dialplan looks like exten => 1234,1,Dial(SIP/exten,15,rto) any clues? |
| 02:54.01 | WizBomb | thats pretty lol |
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| 02:55.12 | WizBomb | anyone still alive after the servers split? |
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| 02:58.23 | WizBomb | wow that was a nasty server split |
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| 02:58.23 | knarfly | 8-) |
| 02:58.23 | q-at-home | is there any way to trim training spaces from a variable, notably callerid name? I'm trying to kill telemarketers and the guys keep adding spaces after their names... drives me crazy a function like trim($var) |
| 02:58.23 | WizBomb | who would like to provide me some help between an Polycom IP500 and Asterisk |
| 02:58.24 | WizBomb | I can call from my IP500 (Ext 600) to my softphone (Ext 601) |
| 02:58.24 | WizBomb | but the softphone can not call my IP500 |
| 02:58.24 | q-at-home | are they in the same context? |
| 02:58.25 | WizBomb | im sorry i do not understand what you mean |
| 02:58.25 | q-at-home | in your sip.conf theres a user and context setting |
| 02:58.25 | q-at-home | mine for example are in sip-exten |
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| 02:58.25 | q-at-home | I'm having a hell of a time trying to strip training spaces from incoming caller id :) |
| 02:58.25 | WizBomb | here is what i use for the softphone |
| 02:58.25 | k31th | guys how do i make a specific extension use a certain outbout trunk. |
| 02:58.25 | WizBomb | type=friend |
| 02:58.25 | WizBomb | username=601 |
| 02:58.25 | WizBomb | password=test |
| 02:58.25 | WizBomb | host=dynamic |
| 02:58.25 | WizBomb | dtmfmode=inband |
| 02:58.25 | WizBomb | defaultip=10.0.0.10 |
| 02:58.26 | q-at-home | dont paste it here |
| 02:58.26 | WizBomb | mailbox=601 |
| 02:58.26 | WizBomb | progressinband=no |
| 02:58.37 | k31th | basically i want to have say ext 1000 1001 1002 1003 all using IAX outbound 1 / and 1004 1005 1006 all using IAX oubound 2 |
| 02:58.37 | WizBomb | oh |
| 02:58.37 | q-at-home | uggh |
| 02:58.37 | WizBomb | crap |
| 02:58.38 | k31th | fs |
| 02:58.38 | q-at-home | pastebin.ca works |
| 02:58.38 | WizBomb | let me look that up |
| 02:59.07 | q-at-home | so I don't see a context for your phones, but they could be defined earlier in the conf... |
| 02:59.17 | WizBomb | http://www.pastebin.ca/752172 |
| 02:59.38 | WizBomb | first part is my softphone |
| 02:59.38 | WizBomb | second part is my IP500 |
| 02:59.58 | q-at-home | do a sip show peers |
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| 03:01.10 | WizBomb | http://www.pastebin.ca/752173 |
| 03:02.05 | q-at-home | 600 doesnt seem registered |
| 03:02.18 | q-at-home | so you can call 601 from 600, but not 600 from 601? |
| 03:02.21 | WizBomb | thats what I though |
| 03:02.26 | WizBomb | correct |
| 03:02.38 | WizBomb | ive followed the guide for configuring the IP500 |
| 03:02.51 | WizBomb | using http://www.csh.rit.edu/~adamf/IP500.html |
| 03:03.33 | WizBomb | although i have Bootrom 2.6.1.0003 |
| 03:03.45 | q-at-home | I've not used that phone before... but i suspect theres a config issue on the phone causing it not to register |
| 03:03.46 | WizBomb | and SIP 1.6.3.0067 |
| 03:04.36 | WizBomb | hmm |
| 03:05.11 | q-at-home | setting it to register=no just seems wrong to me... but like I said, i've never used it |
| 03:05.23 | WizBomb | they recommened it to no |
| 03:05.25 | WizBomb | let me try yes |
| 03:06.01 | q-at-home | so does anyone here have any idea how to trim training spaces from incoming caller id? |
| 03:06.33 | WizBomb | sorry I cant help you in return |
| 03:06.37 | WizBomb | <--- Linux Noob |
| 03:07.03 | q-at-home | toss a qualify=yes in each of those configs in sip.conf |
| 03:07.21 | q-at-home | this isnt a linux problem, its dialplan related... I just cant find the right function :) |
| 03:07.27 | q-at-home | and I'm trying not to resort to an AGI |
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| 03:09.08 | WizBomb | i noticed that Ext 601 is not monitored |
| 03:09.10 | puzzled | q-at-home: maybe look at the CUT function |
| 03:09.15 | WizBomb | can I forced Asterisk to monitor it |
| 03:09.26 | puzzled | WizBomb: qualify=yes |
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| 03:10.32 | q-at-home | puz, yeah.. I was thinking of that... but it seems wrong. theres gotta be a way to dump just the trailing ones |
| 03:10.47 | k31th | i am trying to setup a conf room i am gettint his error |
| 03:10.49 | k31th | [Oct 28 04:09:45] WARNING[22306]: app_meetme.c:772 build_conf: Unable to open pseudo device |
| 03:10.53 | k31th | any ideas? |
| 03:11.15 | puzzled | k31th: install a zaptel driver. if you don't have any cards load ztdummy before starting asterisk |
| 03:11.49 | puzzled | q-at-home: well with extensions you can say ${EXTEN:3} to chop of the first 3 digits. I don't think you can do that with clid but you can try |
| 03:13.50 | k31th | puzzled: I have |
| 03:13.58 | q-at-home | heres whats happening, I'm being bombarded with calls from "ONTARIO" then "ONTARIO " then "ONTARIO " etc |
| 03:14.09 | q-at-home | with numerous numbers |
| 03:14.23 | puzzled | telemarketeers? |
| 03:14.27 | q-at-home | and my poor blacklist isnt taking |
| 03:14.29 | q-at-home | yes |
| 03:14.55 | q-at-home | so I'm trying to blacklist based on caller id name instead of number |
| 03:15.06 | puzzled | k31th: check /dev/zap if it contains files |
| 03:15.07 | q-at-home | I think I'm going to need to resort to an AGI |
| 03:15.14 | k31th | puzzled: it does |
| 03:15.21 | k31th | and the perms are right on that dir... |
| 03:15.47 | puzzled | k31th: ownership issue maybe? are you running asterisk as non-root and the devices in /dev/zap are owned by root? |
| 03:16.07 | q-at-home | I havent been here in ages... |
| 03:16.26 | q-at-home | whats new :) |
| 03:16.26 | k31th | puzzled: im running as asterisk. and i have chown the dirs and set perms to 775 |
| 03:16.34 | k31th | still same error |
| 03:16.52 | WizBomb | i think i see part of the problem |
| 03:17.06 | WizBomb | the IP500 is not keeping the RFC to "Yes" |
| 03:18.02 | puzzled | k31th: then your devices in /dev/zap must also be user asterisk |
| 03:18.24 | puzzled | q-at-home: what about the FILTER function? |
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| 03:18.58 | q-at-home | only in 1.4, I'm still 1.2 :) |
| 03:19.13 | q-at-home | I'm gunna do the agi... faster than upgrading |
| 03:19.57 | puzzled | q-at-home: once you're done send em all to an exten with the monkey sound playing :) |
| 03:20.04 | q-at-home | thats what I do |
| 03:20.19 | q-at-home | all incoming toll free calls, and all black listed go to the monkeys |
| 03:20.32 | q-at-home | "I'm sorry, they have been carried away by monkeys" |
| 03:20.44 | q-at-home | the words get past the voice detection :) |
| 03:20.56 | q-at-home | so the scum get an earfull of screaming primates |
| 03:21.17 | puzzled | excellent :) |
| 03:21.42 | q-at-home | its been working up till the point they started randomizing the CID |
| 03:22.50 | q-at-home | wonder how much of a pain it is to go from 1.2.18 to 1.4.x |
| 03:23.38 | WizBomb | ok this IP500 is kickin my butt |
| 03:24.08 | jql | your butt should be made of tougher... stuff |
| 03:24.12 | q-at-home | haha |
| 03:24.38 | WizBomb | i guess im not lol |
| 03:24.42 | k31th | puzzled: dont get why this is not working tbh. |
| 03:25.00 | WizBomb | im trying a second IP500 now |
| 03:25.08 | WizBomb | upgrading bootrom and SIP |
| 03:25.09 | WizBomb | lol |
| 03:25.40 | q-at-home | once it registers you're golden :) |
| 03:25.52 | WizBomb | it worked once on the old bootrom/SIP |
| 03:25.59 | WizBomb | but then quit working and i could never get it back |
| 03:26.06 | WizBomb | so i figured id upgrade the stuff |
| 03:26.19 | WizBomb | these IP500's are slow CPU's |
| 03:26.34 | WizBomb | once i get this working |
| 03:26.36 | jql | oh lord, even the 650s take forever to do anything |
| 03:26.41 | WizBomb | wow |
| 03:26.46 | WizBomb | once i solve this problem |
| 03:27.01 | WizBomb | then i can solve why my SIP from Asterisk to ViaTalk isnt working |
| 03:27.37 | jql | when I can plug in an SPA2102 ata and have it giving dial-tone in 4 seconds, it makes me feel sad for my polycoms. poor things. :) |
| 03:27.57 | WizBomb | lol |
| 03:28.40 | q-at-home | :) |
| 03:28.41 | coppice | this is why we need faster processors - to cut boot times :-) |
| 03:29.11 | q-at-home | I like my aastras.. slow boot but good phones |
| 03:29.33 | jql | (and uncannily euro-ugly... some of them) |
| 03:29.33 | WizBomb | i may have to buy other IP phones |
| 03:29.41 | WizBomb | if i cant get these IP500's to work |
| 03:29.57 | puzzled | k31th: paste the output of ls -lia /dev/zap to pastebin.ca and show the url |
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| 03:31.13 | WizBomb | grrr |
| 03:31.17 | WizBomb | this thing is still updating |
| 03:31.34 | WizBomb | anyone have their asterisk server running on a laptop? |
| 03:32.27 | k31th | puzzled: http://pastebin.ca/752190 |
| 03:32.31 | k31th | WizBomb: lol? |
| 03:32.35 | k31th | a laptop ? |
| 03:32.39 | WizBomb | yea |
| 03:32.40 | WizBomb | lol |
| 03:32.46 | WizBomb | energy efficent |
| 03:32.51 | WizBomb | small/compact |
| 03:32.53 | puzzled | k31th: what a mess :) |
| 03:33.01 | k31th | puzzled: :D |
| 03:33.06 | q-at-home | if you're 100% voip I suppose :) |
| 03:33.21 | WizBomb | im trying too be |
| 03:33.24 | k31th | WizBomb: why not just build a mini itx |
| 03:33.42 | puzzled | k31th: if you run asterisk as user asterisk than the devices in /dev/zap *all* need to be owned by user asterisk & group asterisk. usually this is arranged automatically by udev. what distro do you use? |
| 03:33.43 | jql | builtin UPS... |
| 03:33.45 | WizBomb | but i suspect i'll have issues getting SIP between my Asterisk and Viatalk (my VOIP provider) |
| 03:33.55 | k31th | puzzled: debian |
| 03:33.59 | q-at-home | stick to big honkin commodity "servers" that you csn replace in minute if something fails |
| 03:34.04 | jql | I'd be paranoid about turning the frequency stepping OFF on the laptop |
| 03:34.08 | jql | but otherwise... |
| 03:34.10 | jql | *shrug* |
| 03:34.26 | WizBomb | i could run it as a VMWare instance |
| 03:34.31 | WizBomb | on my PowerEdge 2550 |
| 03:34.38 | puzzled | k31th: can't help you with that but tzafrir builds packages for debian that work. how did you install asterisk? |
| 03:34.40 | WizBomb | that runs Win2k3 |
| 03:34.42 | q-at-home | I'v never tried that yey |
| 03:34.42 | k31th | ill chown -R the dir puzzled |
| 03:34.46 | q-at-home | err yet |
| 03:35.01 | k31th | puzzled: from source. |
| 03:35.02 | q-at-home | oddly, I make my living installing vmware :P) |
| 03:35.09 | WizBomb | lol q-at-home |
| 03:35.25 | puzzled | k31th: that's only a stopgap. one you unload the zaptel module and reload them, udev will automagically assign them the user/group it is configured with. which usually is root:root |
| 03:35.33 | WizBomb | only problem i have with that for me is |
| 03:35.34 | puzzled | so you need to fix the udev rules |
| 03:35.42 | WizBomb | my PowerEdge is DC with Exchange 2003 |
| 03:35.51 | WizBomb | and running very short on memory (only 512MB) |
| 03:35.57 | q-at-home | eek |
| 03:36.01 | puzzled | yuck |
| 03:36.04 | WizBomb | i wouldnt have the RAM to put VM on it with Asterisk |
| 03:36.04 | jql | whoa |
| 03:36.09 | q-at-home | smallest I've put in is 14gb :) |
| 03:36.15 | k31th | puzzled: was going to say im sure iv done this |
| 03:36.23 | jql | dell will let one of those out of the factory with 512? or is it old? |
| 03:36.23 | jql | :) |
| 03:36.49 | k31th | 512mb wtf |
| 03:37.05 | q-at-home | you running esx on the metal, or going vmware server under win2k |
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| 03:37.23 | k31th | 512 running exchange ! bet thats swapping out ? |
| 03:37.29 | puzzled | heheh |
| 03:37.35 | q-at-home | k31th: could be 1 mailbox :) |
| 03:37.41 | k31th | yeah... |
| 03:37.44 | puzzled | ok, 90% swapping |
| 03:37.44 | WizBomb | yea sorta |
| 03:37.49 | jql | and only one month of calendering |
| 03:37.53 | WizBomb | but i only have 5 mailboxes running |
| 03:37.54 | WizBomb | on it |
| 03:37.58 | puzzled | with no appointments |
| 03:37.58 | k31th | 2003 whores memory |
| 03:37.58 | q-at-home | one week :) |
| 03:38.07 | q-at-home | exchange in general |
| 03:38.09 | k31th | sitting there doing sod all would swap |
| 03:38.28 | q-at-home | poor server |
| 03:38.35 | WizBomb | lol |
| 03:38.39 | WizBomb | donate some memory lol |
| 03:38.42 | q-at-home | it never knew what WizBomb had in store for it |
| 03:38.56 | q-at-home | ram is cheap now |
| 03:39.03 | WizBomb | not PC133 ECC |
| 03:39.17 | k31th | cheaper than replacing broken HD due excessive swap :p |
| 03:39.21 | q-at-home | hah! just threw some of that away :) |
| 03:39.23 | jql | you need something better than a 1ghz processor and 512mb of ram? *scoops out $100* |
| 03:39.23 | WizBomb | its a PowerEdge 2550 with Dual P3 1.0 Ghz |
| 03:39.27 | coppice | the slower the memory, the higher the price |
| 03:39.36 | jql | ahh, at least it's 2 processors |
| 03:39.41 | k31th | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:40.01 | WizBomb | cpu wise, it not bogged |
| 03:40.04 | WizBomb | just needs memory |
| 03:40.18 | Aer0TeK | Something is not right here. I'm getting no ringback when asterisk dials an extension even when the dialplan looks like exten => 1234,1,Dial(SIP/exten,15,rto) any clues? |
| 03:40.18 | k31th | puzzled: any idea how i can fix this? |
| 03:40.25 | q-at-home | it'll just consume more, withthe more you put in it :) |
| 03:40.53 | WizBomb | q-at-home: true |
| 03:41.25 | jql | Aer0TeK: perhaps you need to Answer() and then Dial() ? |
| 03:41.28 | q-at-home | even though I'm a linux guy... I gotta admit - echange works |
| 03:42.19 | *** join/#asterisk L2SHO (n=adam@static-host-24-149-138-156.patmedia.net) |
| 03:42.23 | *** join/#asterisk HarryR (n=harryr@cpc1-lamb3-0-0-cust695.bmly.cable.ntl.com) |
| 03:42.34 | coppice | even most MS lovers seem to have the opposite opinion of exchange |
| 03:42.34 | Aer0TeK | jql: the first step is answering. I just gave an example of how it dials |
| 03:42.49 | Aer0TeK | jql: it goes answer, dial exten |
| 03:42.54 | HarryR | exchange sucks? |
| 03:42.54 | jql | I misunderstood, since it was priority 1 that you pasted |
| 03:42.59 | L2SHO | ok, so I installed zaptel to try to fix musiconhold notices on my console, now I'm getting even more notices |
| 03:43.02 | jql | I assumed there was no Answer() preceding it |
| 03:43.03 | k31th | I hate exchange |
| 03:43.06 | L2SHO | any idea? |
| 03:43.10 | Aer0TeK | gotcha |
| 03:43.29 | WizBomb | well this second IP500 is doing the same thing |
| 03:43.32 | WizBomb | shows up in peers |
| 03:43.33 | q-at-home | I never said it works well |
| 03:43.34 | WizBomb | but doesnt register |
| 03:43.44 | q-at-home | kick it |
| 03:43.48 | q-at-home | :) |
| 03:43.52 | WizBomb | wanna come do it for me |
| 03:44.10 | q-at-home | :) |
| 03:44.22 | jql | WizBomb: does it try to register? |
| 03:44.30 | WizBomb | it does once |
| 03:44.31 | WizBomb | then stops |
| 03:44.41 | q-at-home | oh really |
| 03:44.46 | jql | define "stops" |
| 03:44.49 | jql | did it receive an OK? |
| 03:44.52 | WizBomb | it never retrys |
| 03:44.53 | jql | or what |
| 03:44.55 | WizBomb | after it fails |
| 03:45.00 | L2SHO | Oct 27 19:44:58 NOTICE[17976]: res_musiconhold.c:533 monmp3thread: Request to schedule in the past?!?! |
| 03:45.03 | jql | fails with what code? |
| 03:45.13 | jql | 403? 500? I missed that part |
| 03:45.14 | WizBomb | crap it ran off the screen |
| 03:46.57 | WizBomb | let me try to get that for ya jql |
| 03:47.15 | puzzled | L2SHO: load the ztdummy kernel driver |
| 03:47.22 | q-at-home | L2SHO: bogged cpu? |
| 03:47.50 | q-at-home | running exchange on the same server? :P |
| 03:48.14 | WizBomb | lol |
| 03:48.29 | q-at-home | hehehe |
| 03:48.36 | L2SHO | ok, ztdummy is loaded, asterisk is restarted |
| 03:48.42 | L2SHO | lets see what happens |
| 03:49.26 | WizBomb | hmm |
| 03:49.29 | puzzled | L2SHO: and if you want asterisk to keep running don't use mp3s. use something similar to the codec like wav, gsm, etc |
| 03:49.38 | WizBomb | rebooting my Asterisk box |
| 03:49.40 | WizBomb | resovled the issue |
| 03:49.44 | q-at-home | ?? |
| 03:49.48 | puzzled | that's evil |
| 03:50.01 | L2SHO | puzzled: right now I'm just using whatever it came with |
| 03:50.15 | puzzled | L2SHO: ok, just so you know. asterisk can crash on bad mp3s |
| 03:50.42 | q-at-home | WizBomb: what was it |
| 03:50.57 | WizBomb | i rebooted the phone |
| 03:51.06 | WizBomb | then the asterisk server |
| 03:51.07 | q-at-home | *cringe* |
| 03:51.14 | WizBomb | and now i can call from softphone to ip500 |
| 03:51.18 | q-at-home | gotta hate it when that fixes it |
| 03:51.20 | L2SHO | ok, now I'm not getting any more notices, but the music sounds terrible |
| 03:51.34 | puzzled | WizBomb: basically, if you have to, first restart asterisk then the phone |
| 03:51.40 | L2SHO | like it's cutting in and out |
| 03:52.08 | q-at-home | what kind of hardware are you running on L2SHO |
| 03:52.14 | jql | WizBomb: good! |
| 03:52.39 | L2SHO | eh, I think I found it, according to top, mpg123 is maxing out my cpu |
| 03:52.40 | WizBomb | now |
| 03:52.46 | WizBomb | i just gotta figure out |
| 03:52.50 | q-at-home | ah |
| 03:52.57 | WizBomb | how to get SIP between Asterisk and ViaTalk working |
| 03:53.03 | q-at-home | get rid of any vbr files |
| 03:53.03 | *** join/#asterisk Strom_M (n=strom@m120e36d0.tmodns.net) |
| 03:53.09 | *** join/#asterisk bmg505 (n=leon@196.209.183.44) |
| 03:53.50 | WizBomb | anyone wanna help me with that lol |
| 03:54.15 | puzzled | google :) |
| 03:54.26 | WizBomb | google is wore out for that |
| 03:54.27 | WizBomb | lol |
| 03:54.33 | WizBomb | viatalk even tells you how |
| 03:54.42 | jql | good people copy; great people steal |
| 03:54.43 | WizBomb | and it shows it as "registred" |
| 03:54.48 | jql | steal a working viatalk config. :) |
| 03:54.51 | q-at-home | the provider should have some kind of info |
| 03:54.57 | WizBomb | they provide it here |
| 03:55.07 | L2SHO | q-at-home: should I just convert the mp3's in /var/lib/asterisk/mohmp3 into GSM's or something and put them in the same dir? then erase the mp3's? or will I have to make config changes as well? |
| 03:55.14 | WizBomb | http://support.viatalk.com/index.php?_a=knowledgebase&_j=questiondetails&_i=151&nav=+%26gt%3B+%3Ca+href%3D%27index.php%3F_a%3Dknowledgebase%26_j%3Dsubcat%26_i%3D42%27%3EInstallation+Guides%2FTech%3C%2Fa%3E+%26gt%3B+%3Ca+href%3D%27index.php%3F_a%3Dknowledgebase%26_j%3Dsubcat%26_i%3D60%27%3EAsterisk+Setup+And+Configuration%3C%2Fa%3E |
| 03:55.17 | jql | well then, how do you know it doesn't work? |
| 03:55.38 | WizBomb | nope |
| 03:55.46 | WizBomb | here is the other factor i have |
| 03:55.47 | q-at-home | couldnt tell you... I have one vanilla mp3 in my moh folder |
| 03:55.49 | WizBomb | im using GUI |
| 03:56.18 | WizBomb | so i wonder if i should not touch the GUI Service Provider |
| 03:56.20 | q-at-home | inband dtmf! ick. |
| 03:57.09 | q-at-home | gui? |
| 03:57.19 | WizBomb | i have installed Asterisk GUI |
| 03:57.49 | q-at-home | I *have* been gone a long time |
| 03:58.17 | WizBomb | i guess you could call it Asterisk NOW |
| 03:58.25 | WizBomb | is what its normally called by |
| 03:58.52 | q-at-home | you only need the register portion, and the [outbound] to make calls |
| 03:58.57 | mmlj4 | i used to run asterisk HEN |
| 03:59.04 | q-at-home | graft it into your default context |
| 03:59.33 | WizBomb | i wouldnt need trunk configuration? |
| 03:59.43 | WizBomb | if i use the Service Provider part in the GUI? |
| 04:00.39 | q-at-home | I've never used the gui, sorry |
| 04:00.54 | q-at-home | I think the service provider would be the part that does the register |
| 04:00.55 | jql | GUIs are hard. :( |
| 04:00.56 | mmlj4 | gr... s/HEN/THEN/ # joke ruined |
| 04:00.59 | q-at-home | but I'm just guessing |
| 04:01.02 | q-at-home | haha |
| 04:01.13 | q-at-home | the sed reference was the funniest part! |
| 04:02.00 | mmlj4 | irc works better when intelligence is used |
| 04:02.19 | q-at-home | irc was designed to be used while drinking though... |
| 04:02.33 | jql | wait, this works better with beer? |
| 04:02.41 | q-at-home | ~I'm not drinking alone... I've with you guys!!!~ |
| 04:02.47 | q-at-home | ive = I'm |
| 04:03.20 | *** join/#asterisk stkn_ (n=stkn@gentoo/developer/pdpc.active.stkn) |
| 04:04.18 | q-at-home | brrr its cold out |
| 04:05.17 | knarfly | q-at-home: try Miami |
| 04:05.35 | q-at-home | that would be cheating |
| 04:05.45 | q-at-home | I love the great white north... |
| 04:05.57 | knarfly | select all from Miami where women = topless |
| 04:06.06 | q-at-home | mmm |
| 04:06.22 | knarfly | that should be stored procedure |
| 04:06.24 | q-at-home | even without the quotes I hope that it would return something :) |
| 04:07.04 | WizBomb | incomming calls are now working sorta |
| 04:07.07 | WizBomb | outgoing is not |
| 04:07.13 | q-at-home | sorta? |
| 04:07.14 | puzzled | I don't recall seeing any non-fake boobs in miami |
| 04:07.31 | q-at-home | does is really matter if they are real, or real expensive? :) |
| 04:07.32 | puzzled | every other word works |
| 04:07.39 | WizBomb | booobs |
| 04:08.26 | puzzled | hush, back to your config you |
| 04:08.30 | q-at-home | hah |
| 04:08.57 | q-at-home | its -5C right now here |
| 04:10.08 | q-at-home | incoming might just need the right context set |
| 04:10.31 | WizBomb | just saved the backup |
| 04:11.00 | q-at-home | under trunk config, instead of defining it globally, you can put a context= there |
| 04:11.25 | WizBomb | let me look |
| 04:11.41 | WizBomb | let me focus on getting the incomming calls workign right |
| 04:13.04 | q-at-home | well, I think its time to jump in the hot tub... bbiab |
| 04:13.06 | puzzled | holy crap I actually got chan_h323 to build |
| 04:13.12 | *** join/#asterisk r0d3nt (i=nobody@foster.stonedcoder.org) |
| 04:13.46 | WizBomb | hot tub |
| 04:13.47 | WizBomb | lol |
| 04:14.59 | coppice | q-at-home: -5C? is that a class number? :-) |
| 04:15.12 | WizBomb | u wont wanna get out at that temp |
| 04:17.19 | WizBomb | u still here q-at-home? |
| 04:17.34 | WizBomb | im curious what he ment by context= |
| 04:17.46 | coppice | its 29C here, which totally removes any possibility of skiing down the hills behind our home :-) |
| 04:18.39 | WizBomb | 59F here |
| 04:18.55 | WizBomb | or 15C |
| 04:19.29 | coppice | 15C is good. it saves on aircon bills |
| 04:19.34 | WizBomb | yea |
| 04:19.40 | WizBomb | i havent ran my air or heat in few days |
| 04:21.18 | WizBomb | once i get all this up and running |
| 04:21.23 | WizBomb | the next thing im gonna do is |
| 04:21.27 | WizBomb | vlan my voice traffic |
| 04:21.57 | WizBomb | ewww |
| 04:22.01 | WizBomb | i gotta change that onhold music |
| 04:22.02 | coppice | isn't vlan voiceless LAN, like wlan is wireless LAN? :-) |
| 04:24.02 | WizBomb | lol |
| 04:24.04 | WizBomb | lets see |
| 04:24.08 | WizBomb | how do i change this music |
| 04:26.25 | Aer0TeK | WizBomb, I finally had to turn the heat on, and I have no regrets. I can feel my hands now |
| 04:27.00 | WizBomb | i will in few weeks i bet |
| 04:27.33 | Aer0TeK | thsi morning, I was working on my asterisk box and couldn't type in my password, because my hands were too cold |
| 04:27.44 | WizBomb | lol |
| 04:28.08 | coppice | I have the heat on - I'm using a dual P4 based Xeon machine |
| 04:28.09 | Aer0TeK | and I live in the southern US. It was about 40s or 50s this morning |
| 04:28.17 | Aer0TeK | lol |
| 04:28.22 | WizBomb | lol |
| 04:28.27 | WizBomb | NC here |
| 04:28.45 | coppice | 40s sounds bloody hot :-) |
| 04:28.51 | Aer0TeK | AL here. I didn't have to run the A/C much at all |
| 04:28.59 | WizBomb | ok guys |
| 04:29.02 | WizBomb | how do i change the music file |
| 04:29.04 | Aer0TeK | coppice: fine, try about 10C |
| 04:29.44 | coppice | no thanks. I've tried that, and I didn't like it |
| 04:29.55 | Aer0TeK | neither did I lol |
| 04:30.37 | Aer0TeK | I need to make it a point to just give all measurements in SI units. My god, we're the only country that used imperial |
| 04:30.42 | Aer0TeK | uses |
| 04:30.47 | coppice | maybe texas shouldn't export so much heat to the UK |
| 04:31.10 | Aer0TeK | I work on and ride bikes, so everything is metric anyway |
| 04:31.38 | WizBomb | lol |
| 04:31.44 | WizBomb | i work on PC's and Servers |
| 04:31.53 | WizBomb | everything is turning into Hex |
| 04:31.57 | Aer0TeK | so everything's just bullshit? |
| 04:32.03 | Aer0TeK | hahaha yeah |
| 04:32.28 | WizBomb | no more philips |
| 04:32.32 | WizBomb | hex now |
| 04:32.48 | Aer0TeK | I'm sorry, but the only thing more bullshit than dealing with computers is dealing with people |
| 04:32.55 | WizBomb | lol |
| 04:33.16 | Aer0TeK | although I'll throw cars somewhere in the middle of there, though I can usually kick the shit out of a car and it still be OK |
| 04:33.27 | WizBomb | hehe |
| 04:33.56 | *** join/#asterisk L2SHO (n=adam@static-host-24-149-138-156.patmedia.net) |
| 04:34.15 | Aer0TeK | OiNK going down makes me sad. I was wondering why my torrents weren't uploading anymore. Interpol is probably looking for me |
| 04:34.42 | WizBomb | :( |
| 04:35.31 | *** join/#asterisk JonR800 (i=jon@p1mp.org) |
| 04:35.56 | Aer0TeK | just signed up to stmusic.org and I'm already uploading |
| 04:36.36 | WizBomb | lol |
| 04:38.51 | WizBomb | trying to find the perfect on hold music |
| 04:39.30 | HarryR | anything by Venetian Snares |
| 04:39.36 | Aer0TeK | depends. home or business machine? |
| 04:39.48 | WizBomb | home |
| 04:39.50 | Aer0TeK | you can never go wrong with The Who |
| 04:40.03 | *** join/#asterisk J_5 (n=J_5@cpe-71-72-210-44.cinci.res.rr.com) |
| 04:40.17 | HarryR | does asterisk work well on Linux/PPC? |
| 04:40.24 | coppice | so, which of the many Dr Whos is "The" Who? |
| 04:40.44 | Aer0TeK | my on hold music consists of Van Morrison, The Who, The Rolling Stones, and a few others |
| 04:40.47 | WizBomb | which song would you recommend |
| 04:40.57 | Aer0TeK | Baba O'Riley |
| 04:41.12 | Aer0TeK | or Paint it Black from the Rolling Stones |
| 04:41.18 | J_5 | I'm tryng to set up asterisk for a small home/test up. what operating system works dest? |
| 04:41.27 | HarryR | J_5, Linux, on x86 |
| 04:41.36 | J_5 | ok |
| 04:41.36 | Aer0TeK | J_5: linux. I use Debian for mine |
| 04:41.45 | HarryR | Gentoo here :) |
| 04:41.49 | Aer0TeK | good stuff |
| 04:41.53 | L2SHO | I'm running gentoo |
| 04:42.07 | L2SHO | it's kind of annoying though when I have to recompile something |
| 04:42.09 | Aer0TeK | emerge asterisk w00t |
| 04:42.15 | J4k3 | emerge pants |
| 04:42.20 | Aer0TeK | emerge pie |
| 04:42.30 | J4k3 | emerge poo |
| 04:42.36 | Aer0TeK | apt-get install waffles |
| 04:42.58 | Aer0TeK | apt-get install is embedded in my muscle memory |
| 04:43.08 | J4k3 | cd /usr/ports/misc/roflcopter;make install clean |
| 04:43.14 | luke-jr | Gentoo is behind on Asterisk |
| 04:43.16 | J4k3 | (freebsd) |
| 04:43.25 | Aer0TeK | I used to use FreeBSD |
| 04:43.35 | J4k3 | I'm getting kinda tired of FreeBSD |
| 04:43.41 | HarryR | gentoo on freebsd :) |
| 04:43.47 | J4k3 | some things work great, some things piss me off |
| 04:43.47 | Aer0TeK | I get tired of having to fix the ports database |
| 04:43.47 | J_5 | free bsd had to set up? never used it |
| 04:43.50 | J4k3 | yeah |
| 04:43.52 | J4k3 | exactly |
| 04:43.56 | L2SHO | luke-jr: it's pretty up to date in the overlay |
| 04:44.02 | luke-jr | J4k3: that sounds like Gentoo ☺ |
| 04:44.13 | luke-jr | L2SHO: overlay isn't official |
| 04:44.14 | J_5 | hard*. i promise i can type :) |
| 04:44.23 | Aer0TeK | freebsd is easy to set up and it's great to run for a server, but yeah... what I said about the ports database |
| 04:44.25 | luke-jr | L2SHO: layman -a luke-jr also has some useful fix patches |
| 04:45.16 | Aer0TeK | L2SHO: I haven't run BSD since 5.0 Do I remember this right? cvsup -g -L 2 something |
| 04:45.34 | L2SHO | I've never run BSD, I wouldn't know |
| 04:45.45 | Aer0TeK | oops wrong guy |
| 04:45.52 | Aer0TeK | I meant J4k3 |
| 04:46.06 | luke-jr | does Asterisk even work on BSD? |
| 04:46.09 | Aer0TeK | yes |
| 04:46.19 | Aer0TeK | I know of at least one person using it |
| 04:46.34 | Nugget | asterisk works just great on bsd. |
| 04:46.37 | Nugget | zaptel, not so much |
| 04:47.04 | coppice | emerge pi? OK. |
| 04:47.06 | coppice | 4 * (1 - 1/3 + 1/5 - 1/7 + 1/9 - 1/11.......... |
| 04:47.07 | J4k3 | yeah, if you're pure IP theres really no reason for zaptel |
| 04:47.17 | WizBomb | i hate to be stupid |
| 04:47.19 | luke-jr | J4k3: meetme? |
| 04:47.30 | J4k3 | luke-jr: hrm, ok, good point |
| 04:47.31 | WizBomb | but how do i get this MP3 over to the asterisk server |
| 04:47.45 | L2SHO | J4k3: I just had to install zaptel to get musiconhold working properly |
| 04:47.48 | Aer0TeK | yep. I just have a VOIP provider. |
| 04:48.08 | Aer0TeK | L2SHO? Mine works. I don't think i've configured zaptel at all |
| 04:48.46 | L2SHO | Aer0TeK: it kept throwing notices at me, someone in here told me to install zaptel and load the ztdummy module, that seemed to fix things |
| 04:49.08 | L2SHO | Aer0TeK: it worked, just showing notices on the console and music was breaking up |
| 04:49.13 | q-at-home | ahhhh thats better |
| 04:49.35 | WizBomb | is there a network share i access? |
| 04:49.37 | q-at-home | WizBomb: winscp is free, and can be used |
| 04:49.39 | Aer0TeK | L2SHO: I'm not sure. Gettin MoH working was one of the first things I did. I installed mpg123 and alsa-oss and that's what did it for me |
| 04:49.53 | luke-jr | I thought mpg123 was no longer used? |
| 04:50.05 | luke-jr | what would alsa-oss do for it? |
| 04:50.27 | Aer0TeK | the pure also.conf and alsa settings would not work |
| 04:50.41 | Aer0TeK | so I told it to use oss and installed alsa-oss and bingo |
| 04:50.49 | L2SHO | mine is still using mpg123, and it was maxing out my CPU, so now I'm recompiling sox so I can transcode the audio, hopefully that fixes things |
| 04:51.03 | Aer0TeK | that was more of a problem with making calls from the console though |
| 04:51.40 | Aer0TeK | looks like the version in the apt repository is 1.2.13 |
| 04:54.08 | L2SHO | I'm thinking about just compiling from source and installing into /usr/local, I'm kinda tired of outdated packages, I don't really see much of a downside |
| 04:54.08 | Aer0TeK | probably isn't one |
| 04:54.08 | Aer0TeK | I've got mine all set up and it'll update with apt, I'm lazy, and it's all working, so I'm good to go here |
| 04:54.15 | L2SHO | it just makes upgrading a little more painful, thats about it |
| 04:54.21 | Aer0TeK | werd |
| 04:55.07 | WizBomb | it has to be a wav file? |
| 04:55.08 | q-at-home | l8r all |
| 04:55.46 | Aer0TeK | is there a way to record the .gsm files through asterisk to make custom menus, or do I need another program? |
| 04:56.36 | L2SHO | Aer0TeK: you should be able to record them anywhere and transcode them to GSM |
| 04:57.11 | Aer0TeK | erm, how is that done? or can I also just make wavs and use them directly? |
| 04:57.24 | L2SHO | sox |
| 04:57.36 | L2SHO | is what you'd want to use for transcoding |
| 04:57.40 | Aer0TeK | mmk, I'll look it up. My comp here is a windows computer |
| 04:57.41 | jql | sox is the swiss army transcoder |
| 04:57.46 | Aer0TeK | ahh |
| 04:57.58 | WizBomb | ok |
| 04:58.03 | L2SHO | I think asterisk should convert the wav's automagically, it'll use up CPU tho |
| 04:58.11 | WizBomb | ive connect to asterisk with winscp |
| 04:58.21 | WizBomb | but when i try to save a wav to the moh folder |
| 04:58.22 | WizBomb | i get denied |
| 04:58.39 | L2SHO | are you logging in as root? |
| 04:59.03 | WizBomb | it wont let me |
| 04:59.08 | WizBomb | even though its the same password as admin |
| 04:59.24 | L2SHO | so copy it to your users home dir |
| 04:59.26 | Nugget | It's normal for sshd to deny root logins by default (which is a good thing) |
| 04:59.38 | jql | yeah, well then, you will need to work a wee bit harder to get it in there... |
| 04:59.40 | L2SHO | then ssh in and switch to root and copy it over |
| 04:59.44 | *** join/#asterisk stkn__ (n=stkn@gentoo/developer/pdpc.active.stkn) |
| 04:59.48 | WizBomb | i was using sftp to connect |
| 04:59.56 | Nugget | sftp uses sshd, of course. |
| 05:00.12 | jql | keep doing that, but just upload it to your home directory |
| 05:00.25 | Aer0TeK | save them in the home directory, then ssh in, su, and copy them over |
| 05:00.43 | Aer0TeK | you got me |
| 05:02.28 | *** join/#asterisk nighty^ (n=nighty@sushi.rural-networks.com) |
| 05:05.28 | WizBomb | ok i moved the file over to the home directory |
| 05:05.39 | WizBomb | and i have ssh'ed into the box with admin account |
| 05:05.40 | Aer0TeK | I still can't believe OiNK got pinched. There were OiNK t-shirts. I regret not getting one. |
| 05:05.54 | WizBomb | now do su root? |
| 05:06.17 | Aer0TeK | sure |
| 05:06.27 | WizBomb | thats weird |
| 05:06.30 | WizBomb | says password incorrect |
| 05:06.48 | Aer0TeK | you're logged in under ssh as a user and you do su |
| 05:07.06 | WizBomb | dont log in as admin first time? |
| 05:07.08 | Nugget | Not to be rude, but this is #asterisk, not #teach-you-how-to-use-your-godamn-operating-system |
| 05:07.22 | WizBomb | ...... |
| 05:07.35 | WizBomb | thanks nugget |
| 05:08.01 | jql | file a bug on your asterisk gui provider's bug tracking system to allow moh uploads? |
| 05:09.10 | Aer0TeK | what is an asterisk gui? :P |
| 05:09.22 | WizBomb | lol |
| 05:09.30 | WizBomb | i better be quiet |
| 05:09.39 | WizBomb | as id hate to upset nugget |
| 05:10.20 | Falkon_MX-5 | I figured most people setting up asterisk were linux vets |
| 05:10.41 | WizBomb | sorry |
| 05:10.46 | WizBomb | im windows server guy |
| 05:10.55 | Falkon_MX-5 | nah, it's not a closed community. |
| 05:11.00 | HarryR | ahah! heathen! |
| 05:11.15 | HarryR | damn tab complete |
| 05:11.18 | WizBomb | can us windows and linux guys get alone |
| 05:11.20 | WizBomb | *along |
| 05:11.22 | WizBomb | lol |
| 05:11.35 | jql | sure we can: OSX |
| 05:11.40 | Nugget | heh |
| 05:11.45 | Falkon_MX-5 | I'm running on my XP machine right now, though many times I've considerd putting Debian or a hacked OSX86 on it |
| 05:11.49 | HarryR | jql, :\ I tried OSX for a week and ditched it |
| 05:11.57 | jql | boo hoo. no like BSD? |
| 05:12.05 | HarryR | no, I don't like their silly GUI |
| 05:12.11 | HarryR | it's unproductive |
| 05:12.17 | jql | their terminal window does go full-screen. :P |
| 05:12.29 | HarryR | and runs like a dog on my iMac |
| 05:12.31 | Falkon_MX-5 | BSD is awesome and rock solid, but I'm lazy and apt-get holds my hand and whispers sweet nothings in my ear |
| 05:12.54 | HarryR | Falkon_MX-5, and Linux isn't? |
| 05:13.06 | HarryR | Linux != Debian |
| 05:13.08 | Nugget | No, Linux is not rock solid. |
| 05:13.09 | J_5 | astersk runs on os x? |
| 05:13.22 | jql | yes |
| 05:13.42 | J_5 | hmm |
| 05:13.44 | jql | OSX pretends to be BSD, and asterisk likes that |
| 05:13.45 | *** join/#asterisk saint_ (n=saint@c-69-242-118-124.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 05:13.47 | Falkon_MX-5 | When I think security, I dunno about you, but I think OpenBSD |
| 05:14.04 | HarryR | Falkon_MX-5, I think of Linux +PaX + GrSecurity |
| 05:14.25 | J4k3 | I think of an abacus protected by a nuclear warhead. |
| 05:14.42 | HarryR | or a small kitten wrapped in razor wire |
| 05:14.58 | HarryR | I like these analogies |
| 05:15.38 | jql | i can haz securty? |
| 05:15.53 | jql | caturday isn't over yet, where I live, HarryR |
| 05:16.08 | HarryR | A cat a day keeps the doctor away |
| 05:16.31 | Falkon_MX-5 | I don't think my polycom has a VM button |
| 05:16.34 | *** join/#asterisk macros73_ (n=cs@c-24-3-246-27.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) |
| 05:16.47 | HarryR | the budgetone on my desk is... basic :) |
| 05:16.51 | jql | Falkon_MX-5: no button labelled "Messages"? |
| 05:17.17 | J4k3 | people hate on grandstream, but if it wasn't for the $37 phone, I'd be using a softphone |
| 05:17.22 | HarryR | ehe |
| 05:17.24 | J4k3 | and softphones are generally wack, especially on this laptop |
| 05:17.27 | WizBomb | the IP500 does have one |
| 05:17.27 | L2SHO | My spa941 has a button with an envelope on it |
| 05:17.29 | J4k3 | (irq sharing issues galore) |
| 05:17.35 | HarryR | I'm trying to get my snom 200 upgraded to a snom 320 at work |
| 05:17.40 | HarryR | the 320's are nice :D |
| 05:17.59 | jql | someone at work stole my 320 |
| 05:18.04 | J4k3 | haters |
| 05:18.08 | HarryR | very solid phone, could be used easily as a "blunt object" |
| 05:18.08 | jql | no clue where it is, now |
| 05:18.14 | L2SHO | J4k3: x-lite works great on my macbook |
| 05:18.19 | J4k3 | jql: got the mac? |
| 05:18.21 | J4k3 | search for it1 |
| 05:18.23 | J4k3 | err ! |
| 05:18.23 | HarryR | jql, you should've had it's mac address written down |
| 05:18.47 | HarryR | jql, then you can scower the network for it and hunt down the person that took your beloved phone |
| 05:18.54 | jql | hmm... I probably have the original invoice on file, which would have the mac |
| 05:18.57 | Falkon_MX-5 | I got this Polycom 501 for a good price from a friend. He has a cisco 7690 for me as well, but I'm po' :( |
| 05:19.18 | *** join/#asterisk macros73_ (n=cs@c-24-3-246-27.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) |
| 05:19.25 | WizBomb | oh |
| 05:19.28 | WizBomb | thats a nice cisco |
| 05:19.36 | WizBomb | i'll buy it |
| 05:19.41 | HarryR | I thought all cisco phones were a bit crap |
| 05:19.52 | HarryR | atleast thats the impression I get back from our testing crew |
| 05:20.47 | Falkon_MX-5 | I like my polycom so far |
| 05:20.56 | Falkon_MX-5 | the only other thing I've used is a nortel phone |
| 05:21.06 | J4k3 | I bought an xv6700 last night |
| 05:21.06 | WizBomb | ewww |
| 05:21.08 | WizBomb | nortel |
| 05:21.09 | J4k3 | for sip use |
| 05:21.12 | HarryR | :) |
| 05:21.13 | J4k3 | on wifi |
| 05:21.15 | J4k3 | and evdo |
| 05:21.20 | WizBomb | ive got a XV6700 |
| 05:21.29 | J4k3 | WizBomb: like it? |
| 05:21.33 | HarryR | phone porn :D |
| 05:21.34 | WizBomb | it eats batteries |
| 05:21.44 | J4k3 | WizBomb: they all do |
| 05:21.50 | WizBomb | with wifi connected |
| 05:21.53 | WizBomb | your looking at 30 minutes |
| 05:21.54 | WizBomb | max |
| 05:22.23 | J4k3 | hell, my crappy little vx9800 (regular lg keyboard/camera phone, not a pda) requires daily recharges |
| 05:22.28 | J4k3 | and its not even a year old |
| 05:22.48 | J4k3 | wow, thats pretty harsh |
| 05:22.52 | J4k3 | is yours OC'd? |
| 05:23.03 | WizBomb | nope |
| 05:23.20 | WizBomb | although i hacked the bluetooth |
| 05:23.41 | Falkon_MX-5 | I have no idea how to upload sampled sounds to the polycom or how to set up the voicemail button |
| 05:23.52 | WizBomb | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+phone+Polycom+IP+500 |
| 05:23.55 | HarryR | Falkon_MX-5, read the manuals :D |
| 05:23.56 | WizBomb | im trying to follow this |
| 05:24.01 | HarryR | or rather, RTFM |
| 05:24.04 | J4k3 | I'm considering not activating it on cellular itself, keeping the cdma/evdo radio off, and just bt'ing to the vx9800 instead |
| 05:24.28 | WizBomb | J4k3: i see |
| 05:24.31 | J4k3 | often I am in crappy signal areas, I've found with my laptop that Im far better off using bt with the phone in a windowsil than being teathered in a 3' cord to wherever I can sit |
| 05:24.53 | Falkon_MX-5 | HarryR: I didn't get one, and all I can find online are the user guides which don't tell you anything |
| 05:25.23 | HarryR | oh hmm, what's the model number i'll have a poke around |
| 05:26.09 | Falkon_MX-5 | it's a 501 |
| 05:26.16 | Falkon_MX-5 | ...this can't be legit... |
| 05:26.18 | Falkon_MX-5 | http://www.foolcomics.com/coreConf.htm |
| 05:26.31 | J4k3 | ... attach my vx9800 to the roof-rack of my car, use the xv6700 inside over voip via bt |
| 05:26.54 | WizBomb | that someone's phone? |
| 05:26.58 | Falkon_MX-5 | yes. |
| 05:27.10 | WizBomb | wow |
| 05:27.22 | Falkon_MX-5 | I just tried to change their GMT offset to -12, too bad it asked for a password |
| 05:28.13 | HarryR | ahah |
| 05:28.19 | WizBomb | lol |
| 05:28.37 | HarryR | Falkon_MX-5, hmm other than the IP501 userguide I cant' find anything |
| 05:28.46 | Falkon_MX-5 | that's my problem. |
| 05:28.51 | HarryR | :( |
| 05:28.56 | HarryR | remind me on monday |
| 05:29.00 | Falkon_MX-5 | mmk |
| 05:29.11 | jql | hah |
| 05:29.38 | jql | it really does claim to be a polycom httpd |
| 05:29.41 | jql | funny |
| 05:30.32 | HarryR | stop sending me phone porn |
| 05:30.44 | L2SHO | HarryR: it's the polycom admin guide |
| 05:30.48 | HarryR | same thing |
| 05:31.04 | HarryR | uh, might be better to send it to Falkon_MX-5 |
| 05:31.18 | L2SHO | oh, I thought you were looking, sorry |
| 05:31.21 | WizBomb | lol |
| 05:31.45 | WizBomb | my head hurts |
| 05:31.49 | WizBomb | it too me all day |
| 05:31.56 | WizBomb | but i got everything working except outbound calls |
| 05:32.01 | Falkon_MX-5 | my polycom's httpd sure as hell doesn't get forwarded |
| 05:32.12 | *** join/#asterisk corpcomp (n=corpcomp@125-238-120-85.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz) |
| 05:32.23 | Falkon_MX-5 | wait |
| 05:32.32 | Falkon_MX-5 | Ima try the default polycom login on it |
| 05:33.43 | Falkon_MX-5 | HOLY CRAP |
| 05:33.45 | jql | WizBomb: even funnier, the polycom httpd actually reports itself as being a public IP, not DMZ-natted |
| 05:33.57 | Falkon_MX-5 | they didn't change the password on that polycom phone |
| 05:34.11 | Falkon_MX-5 | His caller ID will now be "Bob Dole" |
| 05:34.18 | WizBomb | Polycom/456 |
| 05:34.19 | WizBomb | ? |
| 05:34.35 | jql | Bob Dole doesn't appreciate his phone being hacked. Bob Dole will come for you. Don't mess with Bob Dole |
| 05:34.50 | Falkon_MX-5 | His name is Art Ferrier, I should give him a call |
| 05:35.08 | jql | well, you certainly know his phone number |
| 05:35.30 | Falkon_MX-5 | and he's using onvoip as his voip provider |
| 05:35.34 | jql | i am in ur phone, settin ur caller id |
| 05:35.52 | Falkon_MX-5 | lol |
| 05:36.28 | Falkon_MX-5 | let me make sure it's not ridiculously late there. I'm going to call him instead of being malicious. |
| 05:36.58 | WizBomb | lol |
| 05:37.11 | Falkon_MX-5 | I wonder how many other polycom phones have their httpd forwarded with the default password. I changed mine, and it sure as hell isn't forwarded |
| 05:37.23 | jql | that's not really httpd forwarded |
| 05:37.31 | jql | Polycom SoundPoint IP Telephone HTTPd Server at 207.154.99.133 Port 80 |
| 05:37.35 | jql | not an internal IP |
| 05:38.02 | Falkon_MX-5 | what time is it in GMT -* |
| 05:38.06 | Falkon_MX-5 | -8 that is |
| 05:38.20 | Falkon_MX-5 | it's would it be 10:38? |
| 05:38.29 | Falkon_MX-5 | it's 12:38 in gmt -6 |
| 05:38.31 | jql | -8? yeah, pacific time or so |
| 05:38.34 | Falkon_MX-5 | okay |
| 05:38.37 | jql | it's 10:38 here in cali |
| 05:39.25 | Falkon_MX-5 | I'm changing my caller ID before I call this guy, just in case |
| 05:39.33 | WizBomb | lol |
| 05:39.35 | corpcomp | I am attempting to find out why my new 1.2 install won't start properly. There is nothing in the /var/log/asterisk/event_log to give me any clues. Any comments welcome |
| 05:39.36 | jql | hah |
| 05:40.09 | corpcomp | built from SVN |
| 05:40.15 | tzafrir_home | corpcomp, look at /var/log/asterisk/messages |
| 05:40.40 | corpcomp | That doesn't exist |
| 05:40.56 | Falkon_MX-5 | what is the 805 area code cali peeps? |
| 05:41.09 | jql | probably LA |
| 05:41.16 | jql | google 805 |
| 05:43.18 | HarryR | corpcomp, start it up in foreground mode (no fork) with high verbose level |
| 05:43.26 | HarryR | and see what trails out on the console |
| 05:44.16 | Falkon_MX-5 | ventura, santa barbara, LA county |
| 05:46.53 | *** join/#asterisk ectospasm (n=ectospas@c-68-62-219-11.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 05:48.24 | luke-jr | Falkon_MX-5: google |
| 05:48.35 | luke-jr | Bakersfield, California |
| 05:51.10 | Falkon_MX-5 | I left him a voicemail |
| 05:51.33 | corpcomp | I have just run safe_asterisk and it "Asterisk died with code 1." and it wants to continually restart and I don't know how to stop it. |
| 05:52.03 | corpcomp | I will rebuild it again for the 6th time |
| 05:52.07 | HarryR | corpcomp, kill safe_asterisk.. |
| 05:52.12 | HarryR | also, try just running asterisk |
| 05:54.04 | L2SHO | corpcomp: asterisk -c |
| 05:57.23 | corpcomp | wow, too many errors to list. Time to rebuild again. I may even read the docs properly |
| 05:57.36 | Falkon_MX-5 | WizBomb: I feel like I should change this guy's phone password at least and leave him a VM saying what I changed it to, but I'm going to leave it up to him to do. |
| 05:58.53 | WizBomb | lol |
| 05:59.00 | WizBomb | well he left it wide open |
| 05:59.25 | HarryR | lol |
| 05:59.57 | HarryR | why has he got it publicly available with a domain name! |
| 06:00.11 | tzafrir_home | corpcomp, look for the first errors |
| 06:00.22 | tzafrir_home | (and get rid of safe_asterisk) |
| 06:00.27 | Falkon_MX-5 | I don't know. I decided to do another google, and I found two more wide open |
| 06:00.36 | tzafrir_home | 'asterisk -c' runs asterisk as root |
| 06:00.39 | Falkon_MX-5 | both in california as well |
| 06:00.44 | Falkon_MX-5 | or at least pacific time |
| 06:01.03 | jql | damnit, you're gonna make me change the default password on all my phones with this talk |
| 06:01.04 | jql | :( |
| 06:01.12 | Falkon_MX-5 | hell, I did. |
| 06:01.44 | *** join/#asterisk munmun (n=mun_mun@203.80.176.168) |
| 06:01.47 | Falkon_MX-5 | this second one I found is even using hte default SIP login credentials to the server. I could login to his asterisk with x-lite and make some calls. Morons. |
| 06:01.55 | WizBomb | lol jql |
| 06:02.00 | corpcomp | OK, thanks for the advice, I am looking into why I have made such a bungle of things now. |
| 06:03.09 | Falkon_MX-5 | Apparently these people are smart enough to set up a linux computer, create dialplans, and set up SIP phones, but not take the time to do basic security measures? |
| 06:03.32 | jql | but... but... NAT! |
| 06:03.43 | jql | that's my excuse, and I'm sticking to it |
| 06:04.10 | jql | of course, using polycoms behind a nat is one of those more recent practical possibilities |
| 06:05.20 | Falkon_MX-5 | I don't think I have NAT. I'm just behind a linux firewall with nothing forwarded except bittorrent ports and an arbitrary port I set up for SSH |
| 06:06.30 | HarryR | but you can make outbound connections? then you're going through some sort of NAT |
| 06:06.38 | Falkon_MX-5 | oh okay |
| 06:06.49 | Falkon_MX-5 | I guess I should go lookup what exactly a NAT is. |
| 06:07.01 | HarryR | :) |
| 06:07.26 | L2SHO | sweet, moh is now working perfectly |
| 06:07.30 | Falkon_MX-5 | awesome |
| 06:13.15 | *** join/#asterisk russellb (i=russellb@asterisk/developer-and-stable-maintainer/drumkilla) |
| 06:13.15 | *** mode/#asterisk [+o russellb] by ChanServ |
| 06:21.20 | Falkon_MX-5 | for your viewing pleasure. I'm just speechless |
| 06:21.22 | Falkon_MX-5 | http://www.automotivetech.org/at/photo/data/500/DSC01298.JPG |
| 06:21.30 | WizBomb | well im gonna hit the hay |
| 06:21.36 | WizBomb | time is 2:30am |
| 06:21.59 | Falkon_MX-5 | yeah, I need to do the same. |
| 06:25.10 | HarryR | Falkon_MX-5, ahah |
| 06:25.53 | HarryR | can you route all his calls through a pbx which plays "YOU ARE HACKED" |
| 06:25.53 | *** join/#asterisk Dovid (n=dovi5988@bzq-88-155-170-112.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 06:26.08 | Falkon_MX-5 | I might be able to, but I just logged into his asterisk through x-lite as "polycom" |
| 06:26.27 | Falkon_MX-5 | and I'm now at his voicemail |
| 06:26.31 | HarryR | :Dcan you make outbound calls? |
| 06:26.39 | Falkon_MX-5 | yes. |
| 06:26.45 | J4k3 | hacker |
| 06:26.47 | Falkon_MX-5 | if he has a voip provider |
| 06:26.54 | Falkon_MX-5 | but I'm not going to. |
| 06:26.56 | Dovid | ooooh who is this ? |
| 06:27.02 | Dovid | dont we all love free calls ;) |
| 06:27.07 | J4k3 | :) |
| 06:27.09 | HarryR | do you mind if I put like 3000 minutes through? |
| 06:27.18 | Dovid | give me 100k |
| 06:27.22 | HarryR | my 0900 number needs some love |
| 06:27.23 | HarryR | :D |
| 06:27.27 | Dovid | that should take a drop outa the bucket for me |
| 06:27.27 | J4k3 | I need two pair |
| 06:27.29 | J4k3 | give me two pair |
| 06:27.33 | Falkon_MX-5 | sorry, I'm just going to leave him a VM that says "your phone is wide open" |
| 06:28.07 | Dovid | Falkon_MX-5: How about seeing the whois on his IP, or seeing what domain it is and do a look up on it. |
| 06:28.11 | Falkon_MX-5 | I found his phone's web interface accidentally seaching google |
| 06:28.18 | Dovid | lol |
| 06:28.20 | Falkon_MX-5 | hmm, good idea |
| 06:28.37 | Dovid | i do that when ever I find a volnerable server (like XM Sat. Radio back in the day) |
| 06:28.40 | Falkon_MX-5 | seriously, I was trying to google how to upload ringtones to my polycom phone |
| 06:28.52 | Dovid | sent them an email and the box was fixed in about an hour |
| 06:29.50 | Falkon_MX-5 | I've already left a VM on one guy's I found left open. This guy's one is so wide open that I was able to log into his asterisk with X-lite. That's just BAD |
| 06:30.05 | HarryR | http://mpes.net/index.htm |
| 06:30.21 | Falkon_MX-5 | ahem that *MIGHT* be it |
| 06:30.44 | Falkon_MX-5 | btw he's using the default VM extension of 8500 |
| 06:31.57 | *** join/#asterisk Dovid[Laptop] (n=dovi5988@bzq-79-181-0-98.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 06:32.05 | Dovid[Laptop] | my internet pooped out |
| 06:32.30 | Falkon_MX-5 | This guy just left the keys in his benz with the car running in the middle of Berkley. |
| 06:32.33 | Dovid[Laptop] | JK43: I know of a "Service Provider" that uses TrixBox. want their IP ? |
| 06:32.45 | HarryR | haha |
| 06:35.38 | Falkon_MX-5 | Let's see if my brother in China is awake |
| 06:36.50 | Falkon_MX-5 | [joking] |
| 06:37.01 | Dovid[Laptop] | I am gona head back to bed. |
| 06:37.08 | Dovid[Laptop] | It's SUuuuunnnnnnnndayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy |
| 06:37.15 | Falkon_MX-5 | http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/whois.ch?ip=67.51.204.34 |
| 06:37.44 | Falkon_MX-5 | Hei Communications Inc... oh they're a communications provider alright... |
| 06:38.20 | *** join/#asterisk neax (n=newdle@203-114-176-86.dsl.sta.inspire.net.nz) |
| 06:40.50 | coppice | Falkon_MX-5: Since its 2:40PM in China, he's probably awake :-) |
| 06:41.33 | Falkon_MX-5 | yes |
| 06:48.27 | Falkon_MX-5 | found their number and left them a voicemail telling them to secure their stuff |
| 06:51.21 | Dovid[Laptop] | Falkon: What user name did u get in on again ? ;) |
| 06:55.19 | Falkon_MX-5 | it's just polycom password polycom |
| 06:55.32 | Falkon_MX-5 | oh, |
| 06:56.19 | Falkon_MX-5 | I called his own business from his own PBX and left him a voicemail. That's just sad |
| 06:56.26 | Dovid | lol |
| 06:56.28 | Dovid | and the IP is ? |
| 06:56.33 | HarryR | lol |
| 06:56.48 | Falkon_MX-5 | You'll have to find that yourself. It might be in the configuration somewhere |
| 06:56.59 | Falkon_MX-5 | I am not liable for anything you do. |
| 06:57.41 | Dovid | it is amazing how many people in the early days of asterisk had Exten => _X., in their default context |
| 06:57.41 | Falkon_MX-5 | some opinions expressed may not be the opinions of Falkon. All rights reserved, etc |
| 06:57.57 | Dovid | some times i just wanascan port 5060 and try to make calls, compile a list and email them |
| 06:58.07 | Dovid | and then give them the DumbA** award |
| 06:58.19 | HarryR | port 5060 probing is fun :D |
| 06:58.29 | Falkon_MX-5 | well this guy gets it. I mean default sip login credentials... come on people |
| 06:58.37 | HarryR | especially when anonymous sip access gets dropped into the default context |
| 06:59.08 | Falkon_MX-5 | all my sip/iax connections have to registe |
| 06:59.09 | Dovid | HarryR: I have seen it more than once when helping out people here on IRC |
| 06:59.09 | Qwell | I find it somewhat funny when people don't read the SECURITY.txt... |
| 06:59.37 | Falkon_MX-5 | Qwell: lol, I didn't even know there was one. I just used common sense |
| 06:59.46 | Qwell | yeah.. |
| 07:00.14 | Dovid | Lets see there is voip-info, the list, Asterisk TFOT. how dumb can one get ??? |
| 07:03.08 | Falkon_MX-5 | any of you have a DID number? I want to call lol |
| 07:03.51 | HarryR | uk :\ |
| 07:04.09 | Dovid | yea. i am curious as to whom /she is using |
| 07:04.32 | HarryR | +441770808073 |
| 07:04.48 | HarryR | china to uk = expensive |
| 07:04.59 | Falkon_MX-5 | I'm not in UK |
| 07:05.04 | Falkon_MX-5 | err china either |
| 07:05.08 | HarryR | ah |
| 07:05.50 | Falkon_MX-5 | he doesn't have international calling. |
| 07:06.00 | Dovid | Falkon: He is a US dial plan |
| 07:06.23 | Falkon_MX-5 | I used 011441770808073 |
| 07:06.40 | Dovid | ah. i was able to call 18005551212 |
| 07:06.53 | Dovid | i just had to tr it ;) |
| 07:07.03 | Falkon_MX-5 | yeah, us works. I called Digium in huntsville |
| 07:07.05 | Dovid | (didnt try to call any where that it would cost $$$) |
| 07:07.16 | HarryR | lol |
| 07:07.19 | Falkon_MX-5 | I just called digium, confirmed it would work and hung up |
| 07:07.42 | TJNII | Okay, quick question. If I'm putting a dial commend for a dial out prefix to a friends asterisk box, and I don't want to specify a specific context, is * acceptable? Right now I have Dial(IAX2/remotebox/${EXTEN:1}@ext-local,60) and I'm wondering if Dial(IAX2/remotebox/${EXTEN:1}@*,60) is valid. |
| 07:08.38 | Falkon_MX-5 | why not just create a context real quick or put him in the local context? |
| 07:09.22 | TJNII | Well, the context is on his end, not mine |
| 07:09.26 | Dovid | OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 07:10.08 | TJNII | So I can't control it. It works now, but only for numbers in that context. I was just wondering how you would allow extens in multiple contexts on the remote end via one prefix. |
| 07:10.13 | Dovid | he has VNC on there on default port. this makes me laugh |
| 07:10.19 | TJNII | If that makes sense, which it probably doesn't. |
| 07:10.53 | Falkon_MX-5 | very cool, any cuts in my sound? |
| 07:10.58 | HarryR | nope |
| 07:11.02 | HarryR | just delay |
| 07:11.04 | Falkon_MX-5 | good deal. |
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| 07:12.20 | Falkon_MX-5 | well, I've made enough trouble for one night. Hopefully, tomorrow or monday when they get those voice messages, they'll secure their phones. I bet there's a bunch of open cisco and grandstream phones as well |
| 07:12.25 | HarryR | ooh, budgetone 100 |
| 07:13.06 | Dovid | hehe |
| 07:13.20 | TJNII | Budgetone 100s arn't bad, though the caller ID is numeric only and the people I call bitch about echo on the speakerphone. |
| 07:13.38 | HarryR | I got it for free, so i'm not complaining |
| 07:13.46 | TJNII | Fair enough |
| 07:13.48 | JT | the budgetone 100s ARE bad |
| 07:13.59 | HarryR | the numeric only display really annoys me though |
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| 07:14.23 | Dovid | I like my Snom's andPolycom |
| 07:14.24 | HarryR | boots a hell of a lot quicker than my snoms |
| 07:14.33 | Falkon_MX-5 | I like my polycom |
| 07:15.01 | JT | snoms are so ugly |
| 07:15.03 | JT | and boring |
| 07:15.36 | J4k3 | snom sounds like a torture device |
| 07:17.00 | J4k3 | or a disease |
| 07:17.30 | Dovid | SNOM's are ok. a cheaper alt. to Polycom |
| 07:17.40 | Dovid | and I HATE the bott up time on Polycom's |
| 07:18.33 | JT | okay, just not tha great |
| 07:18.54 | TJNII | Dial(IAX2/remotebox/${EXTEN:1}@*,60) doesn't work. I guess I'd better start reading up on dial() |
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| 07:35.36 | coppice | I think tissue was invented to deal with snom |
| 07:36.00 | J4k3 | haha |
| 07:36.16 | J4k3 | one time I cought a cold and had to cough up a bunch of snom |
| 07:38.43 | HarryR | after the orgy there was snom everywhere |
| 07:39.45 | J4k3 | haha |
| 07:41.11 | HarryR | is it snom, or schnom? |
| 07:41.20 | HarryR | pronounciation wise |
| 07:41.51 | TJNII | When I dial another asterisk box over iax2 I have to specify the context in the remote dialplan the number is in with the @ symbol. That doesn't seem right. Is there something obvious I am missing? |
| 07:41.56 | coppice | or shhhhhhnom |
| 07:43.04 | J4k3 | first rule of snom is you don't talk about snom |
| 07:43.28 | HarryR | lol |
| 07:43.41 | HarryR | but you're breaking the second rule! |
| 07:43.52 | HarryR | 2) Never break the first rule |
| 07:44.58 | jql | TJNII: I wouldn't say required... |
| 07:45.14 | TJNII | No, it is. Otherwise I get a no context/extension error |
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| 07:45.20 | TJNII | Thus my query. |
| 07:45.21 | jql | that's a server conf problem |
| 07:45.27 | jql | context=foo in the iax conf |
| 07:45.43 | TJNII | I have that. Doesn't seem to fly. |
| 07:45.54 | jql | no, it flies |
| 07:45.54 | TJNII | Well, on the remote end its set to context=* |
| 07:46.01 | jql | wtf is *? |
| 07:46.09 | TJNII | I don't know, I didn't set that up |
| 07:46.13 | jql | well then fix it |
| 07:46.40 | TJNII | I assumed Scott knew what he was doing. Judging by your response that isn't legal? |
| 07:46.40 | jql | context=[whatever you were trying to use in that Dial()] |
| 07:46.57 | TJNII | Yea, that's what I have. That's probably the problem then. |
| 07:47.05 | TJNII | Let me check something. |
| 07:47.05 | jql | * ain't no context I ever heard of |
| 07:47.19 | jql | do they speak english in *? |
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| 07:48.04 | bintut | hello all.. |
| 07:48.23 | bintut | i'm always getting this messages from my asterisk logs: |
| 07:48.24 | JT | TJNII: please read |
| 07:48.26 | JT | ~thebook |
| 07:48.27 | jbot | Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf |
| 07:48.27 | bintut | [Oct 28 15:46:57] WARNING[31092]: chan_sip.c:4726 parse_request: Too many SIP headers. Ignoring. |
| 07:48.28 | bintut | [Oct 28 15:46:57] WARNING[31092]: chan_sip.c:14682 handle_request_subscribe: SUBSCRIBE failure: no Accept header: pvt: stateid: -1, laststate: 0, dialogver: 0, subscribecont: '', subscribeuri: '' |
| 07:48.34 | JT | bintut: please use |
| 07:48.35 | JT | ~pb |
| 07:48.36 | jbot | A Pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste |
| 07:48.51 | bintut | JT: yeah.. but i just pasted 2 lines |
| 07:48.51 | jql | you probably have too many SIP headers |
| 07:49.02 | JT | bintut: 5 and a half lines on a standard terminal |
| 07:49.14 | TJNII | jql: I read that months ago. It's not very good for troubleshooting |
| 07:49.27 | TJNII | Sorry. Not jtl. JT |
| 07:49.33 | jql | credit the other guy for ~book |
| 07:49.37 | jql | :) |
| 07:49.40 | TJNII | Right Sorry. |
| 07:49.53 | JT | TJNII: it's good to get a grasp of asterisk configuration |
| 07:50.07 | JT | you can't troubleshoot if you don't have a basic grasp of it |
| 07:50.47 | bintut | JT: anyway, i already pasted it.. any idea why i'm getting those problems? |
| 07:50.51 | bintut | i mean, logs? |
| 07:51.58 | jql | there's a max headers limit of 64 |
| 07:52.05 | TJNII | jql: Yea, it was the context=*. I assumed the other guy knew that would work because he had his * working a month before mine. I guess I was wrong. |
| 07:52.07 | jql | having more than 64 headers is... really damn impressive |
| 07:52.25 | TJNII | Let me just modify his configs for him, since he was nice enough to give me root access.... |
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| 07:55.38 | bintut | anyway, i have to go now.. |
| 07:55.43 | bintut | thanks.. |
| 07:56.52 | curtn | do someone use the Linksys SPA3102 ? no problem with Asterisk ? |
| 07:57.02 | jql | yes, and yes |
| 07:57.30 | curtn | jql: good quality ? |
| 07:57.41 | jql | mainly used it for testing faxing |
| 07:57.48 | jql | so.... yes. good enough for faxing |
| 07:57.51 | jql | :) |
| 07:59.55 | curtn | jql: and does the pstn fallback work (loss of the IP) ? |
| 08:00.13 | jql | I just unplug the power and test that |
| 08:00.19 | TJNII | jql: I've been curious about faxing. I know some people simply digitize the modem data as voice data, which I don't think is that hot. Does yours decode the modem data and then send it as straight data? |
| 08:00.34 | jql | don't recall testing the ethernet failure, but I may have tried that as well |
| 08:00.51 | jql | TJNII: it works both ways |
| 08:02.31 | TJNII | Cool |
| 08:03.01 | TJNII | My folks are talking about VoIP and they've been asking me about faxing, so I need to learn about it. |
| 08:03.25 | jql | the only bummer about sending the image data directly is it maxes out at 14.4k speed |
| 08:03.40 | jql | plain audio goes all the way to 33.6 |
| 08:03.57 | jql | although I really only get 24k and speeds like that |
| 08:06.08 | curtn | and the IP phone Linksys WIP330.. is it a good device ? (someone has said that all wifi phones sucks..) |
| 08:06.27 | jql | all wifi phones do suck |
| 08:07.17 | curtn | jql: for a 200 euros device it's a bad news.. |
| 08:07.45 | curtn | it looks pretty |
| 08:07.59 | jql | well, the display makes the phone |
| 08:08.03 | jql | as apple well knows... |
| 08:09.02 | curtn | what's the problem with wifi phones ? |
| 08:09.26 | JT | the technology of wifi is inappropriate for voice |
| 08:09.43 | jql | yeah, it's like running voip over a shared 10baseT hub, instead of a switch |
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| 08:09.53 | jql | hubs = wait; retry |
| 08:09.59 | jql | waiting is bad for voip |
| 08:10.09 | JT | and sometimes some randomly unplugs the hub, or lengthens your cable |
| 08:10.16 | jql | so all wifi phones build in a huge buffer |
| 08:10.16 | JT | someone |
| 08:10.23 | jql | which makes them like goddamn cell-phones |
| 08:10.41 | JT | cell phones work better |
| 08:10.49 | J4k3 | see |
| 08:10.52 | jql | true, cell towers don't expect confirmation |
| 08:11.03 | JT | it's a lot more than that, jql |
| 08:11.15 | JT | they are designed for it, don't use ip, and can do handover properlly |
| 08:11.17 | jql | I was referring to the network rather than the cdma itself |
| 08:11.21 | J4k3 | everyone thinks wifi voip sucks automatically becuase all the wifi voip devices sold as such are complete and total underpowered shit |
| 08:11.42 | JT | doesn't have to be cdma |
| 08:12.01 | jql | J4k3: so the thesis of your argument is that a softphone on a decent laptop over wifi would be fine? |
| 08:12.13 | J4k3 | jql: it has been in my experience |
| 08:12.19 | J4k3 | or a decent wifi bridge and a standard hard phone |
| 08:12.28 | J4k3 | but, if your AP is some piece of crap ymmv |
| 08:13.06 | jql | <-- piece of crap ap victim on crowded residential airwaves |
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| 08:13.30 | J4k3 | you're probably just using residential-grade hardware |
| 08:13.41 | jql | wrt54g, baby |
| 08:13.41 | J4k3 | unless your local 2.4 noise floor is totally insane |
| 08:13.45 | J4k3 | junk |
| 08:13.52 | J4k3 | underpowered, crappy radio, etc. |
| 08:14.03 | J4k3 | now, I am speaking to you via one right now, but that doesn't mean they're good |
| 08:14.24 | jql | ubiquitous rarely means good anymore |
| 08:14.57 | J4k3 | I'll be using an LS2 in here before the xv6700 arrives. |
| 08:15.04 | J4k3 | I need to get some non-crappy firmware on mine |
| 08:15.28 | HarryR | iirc the most common problem with wifi setups is interference |
| 08:15.32 | J4k3 | slightly lamer CPU but much better radio, the better radio has less cpu hit in my experience. |
| 08:15.43 | HarryR | people just think "lets buy a box that does wifi and put it in the shop" or something |
| 08:15.48 | J4k3 | HarryR: depends on your environment |
| 08:15.54 | jql | HarryR: hence why a powerful radio is good. you always win. :) |
| 08:16.03 | jql | channel 9 is MINE, BITCHES |
| 08:16.09 | jql | *ahem* |
| 08:16.16 | J4k3 | csma/ca doesn't quite work like that |
| 08:16.21 | J4k3 | the channel is only yours when you're using it |
| 08:16.37 | jql | yeah... bittorrent will take care of that |
| 08:16.55 | J4k3 | and sitting on 9 the users on the normal channels 6 and 11 aren't hitting your ca, or their ca, so if you're both active you're just giving yourself a shitload of noise rather than properly sharing time. |
| 08:17.15 | J4k3 | which might work better if you're moving very small packets with oodles of signal, but in most circumstances it doesn't work better |
| 08:19.09 | J4k3 | I find the biggest problem with wifi is the human aspect |
| 08:19.16 | J4k3 | the cheap human |
| 08:19.42 | J4k3 | who buys a cheap radio, a cheapish "high gain" omni antenna, and thinks they're going to suddenly cover a 3 mile radius off thei rooftop |
| 08:20.19 | J4k3 | or, even better, buys a high powered amplifier to add to the mix |
| 08:20.31 | J4k3 | so their crap makes tons of noise yet stays locked up due to interference triggering ca. |
| 08:20.36 | jql | too bas Monster doesn't sell wifi equipment |
| 08:20.47 | jql | they could clean up |
| 08:21.06 | J4k3 | monster? as in the people who've cornered the market on overpriced lamp cord? |
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| 08:21.26 | jql | yeah |
| 08:21.32 | jql | they could do the same for cantennas |
| 08:21.33 | J4k3 | excuse me while I use their overpriced lamp cord to hook up some overpriced cheap paper bose speakers :P |
| 08:22.39 | HarryR | :) |
| 08:22.46 | HarryR | so I can play my 96k mp3s on it |
| 08:22.59 | J4k3 | bose speakers are great for covering up mp3 artifacts |
| 08:23.05 | J4k3 | with artifacts of their own! |
| 08:23.08 | HarryR | ahah |
| 08:23.30 | jql | and CD artifacts. digital is teh devil |
| 08:23.49 | coppice | I've never seen anyone buying a Monster cable. Maybe only monsters buy them |
| 08:25.31 | HarryR | jql, not really cd artifacts, but generally due to over-compression during mastering |
| 08:25.51 | HarryR | which can get translated it clipping when you convert from digital to analogue |
| 08:26.19 | HarryR | or just clipping all the time if it's really badly done |
| 08:26.49 | J4k3 | theres a lot of magic that goes into studio recording |
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| 08:28.34 | J4k3 | of course, I've heard rather outstanding home-produced stuff these days, but at the same time I'll hear something some guy got paid a huge quantity to mix up and it sounds like cheese-grated-shit. |
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| 08:29.28 | HarryR | if the music is cheese grated shit, it'll sound like cheese grated shit |
| 08:29.45 | HarryR | pouring money into mastering can only make a good track sound great |
| 08:29.47 | J4k3 | yeah, but lousy production doesn't help |
| 08:30.10 | HarryR | ya |
| 08:30.44 | J4k3 | and you've gotta have decent mics... theres just no way around it |
| 08:30.50 | HarryR | I hear too much shit today in the charts with outstanding production, shame it's just a bad track to begin with |
| 08:31.16 | J4k3 | bring me one alan parsons, plz, thx |
| 08:33.05 | HarryR | http://www.malfaiteurs.com/photo/mss0509.jpg + class as please |
| 08:34.47 | J4k3 | looks like my bedroom when I was 12 or so, except my gear was all ghetto. |
| 08:34.48 | J4k3 | ;) |
| 08:35.42 | HarryR | I've seen much bigger :) 25-30k rigs and such |
| 08:36.45 | HarryR | anything bigger is just scary |
| 08:45.55 | J4k3 | I just want an optimal room |
| 08:46.18 | J4k3 | or something a little farther away from "acoustically screwed" |
| 08:46.51 | HarryR | get some bass traps in there and play around with the positioning of them & your monitors |
| 08:47.02 | HarryR | unless you're living in a tin can or something |
| 08:47.05 | J4k3 | when I was a kid I had a nice simple 11x10x8 (ft) room... so easy to figure out |
| 08:47.11 | HarryR | :D |
| 08:47.22 | J4k3 | I'm living in an old pier and beam house |
| 08:47.27 | J4k3 | with laminate wood flooring |
| 08:47.29 | HarryR | oh right |
| 08:47.33 | J4k3 | and masonate walls |
| 08:48.01 | HarryR | only thing I suffer from at the moment are standing waves and shit speakers, cant be bothered to fix either until I move house again |
| 08:48.04 | J4k3 | and the rooms all have large doors to other rooms... no good speaker placement options. but its temporary ;) |
| 08:48.24 | HarryR | and im lacking like 20 plug sockets in this room :( |
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| 08:48.52 | J4k3 | I got a pair of sennheiser hd280pro... they're about optimal for my current circumstance |
| 08:49.20 | J4k3 | in-ear stuff gives me itchy ears |
| 08:49.42 | J4k3 | the hd600's I had before this seemed louder on the outside than they were on the inside. |
| 08:49.55 | HarryR | B&W DM601s here :\ |
| 08:51.40 | HarryR | all I need is some ducttape and some wire and I can get rid of all my problems |
| 08:52.09 | J4k3 | all I need is a stack of small pieces of paper with pictures of dead presidents on them. |
| 08:52.27 | J4k3 | unluckily these things don't grow on trees |
| 08:52.42 | HarryR | lol |
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| 08:58.23 | coppice | j4k3: I have AKG701s that wake the kids in the next room :-) |
| 08:58.33 | J4k3 | haha damn |
| 08:58.51 | J4k3 | all the best cans are open back, and thats a pita in a lot of sitiations :| |
| 08:59.08 | J4k3 | of course, these things are like having two fat chicks sitting on your shoulders |
| 08:59.13 | J4k3 | they're huge |
| 09:00.16 | coppice | yeah. I have closed back AKGs and open backed sennheiser portables. the sennheisers sound far better and are more comfortable. I usually travel with the AKGs to keep the background noise out |
| 09:00.43 | coppice | the AKG701s cover almost the entire sides of my 8 year old's head |
| 09:02.20 | J4k3 | well, in my case I doubt anyone else wants to listen to the moody blues at high volume at 3am ;) |
| 09:02.47 | coppice | a moody wife maybe? |
| 09:03.01 | J4k3 | haha |
| 09:03.35 | J4k3 | not yet... hell my girlfriend is currently 350 miles away :( |
| 09:09.43 | coppice | well, turn up the volume then |
| 09:11.19 | J4k3 | this house is otherwise occupied with folks that like modernish rock and rap. they'd probably flip out |
| 09:11.36 | J4k3 | of course maybe they deserve the shocker |
| 09:11.37 | J4k3 | haha |
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| 09:58.38 | brc_ | k, so what magic voodo has changed that would cause the zap command to not be present in 1.4? |
| 09:58.50 | brc_ | was it depricated? |
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| 10:01.26 | tzafrir | brc_, either chan_zap.so was not built, or it has failed to load |
| 10:01.38 | tzafrir | try: module load chan_zap.so |
| 10:01.53 | tzafrir | what do you get? |
| 10:02.07 | tzafrir | also: what zaptel hardware do you have? |
| 10:02.24 | brc_ | hey tzafrir, how've you been? |
| 10:02.39 | tzafrir | at home, I guess :-) |
| 10:02.46 | brc_ | long time no see :p |
| 10:03.10 | brc_ | I'm working on a secondary machine to run stuff while I upgrade the main box, I threw a spare t100p into it |
| 10:03.47 | brc_ | module load chan_zap.so works like it should, but still no zap command at the cli |
| 10:03.49 | HarryR | whoah, I've just found a horrible webpage |
| 10:03.52 | HarryR | http://www.cyneric.com/ |
| 10:04.11 | HarryR | wtf were these guys thinking when they hired a web designer |
| 10:06.10 | tzafrir | brc_, no error at all? |
| 10:07.07 | brc_ | well module show like chan_zap.so |
| 10:07.07 | brc_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:08.40 | brc_ | damnit. |
| 10:09.30 | tzafrir | but chan_zap.so is not loaded automatically? |
| 10:10.05 | brc_ | no it is -- automagically |
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| 10:10.22 | brc_ | restarted asterisk to make sure |
| 10:10.57 | brc_ | weird |
| 10:11.16 | tzafrir | egrep 'autoload|chan_zap.so' /etc/asterisk/modules.conf |
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| 10:12.16 | tzafrir | that is: is autoload enabled? and is there an explicit load/noload for chan_zap.so? |
| 10:12.18 | brc_ | yeah, autoload is on |
| 10:12.38 | brc_ | chan_zap isn't listed, but autoload is picking it up properly as far as I can tell |
| 10:13.11 | tzafrir | if you load it manually, you see channels in 'zap show channels' ? |
| 10:13.58 | brc_ | nope, I get no such command |
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| 11:41.07 | colde | Hi, im trying to originate a call via a call file, and im getting this error chan_sip.c:12009 handle_response_invite: Failed to authenticate on INVITE to '"46931432" <sip:46931435@musimi.dk>;tag=as50cc7806' |
| 11:41.12 | colde | The extension works when dialing in on the SIP interface |
| 11:41.14 | colde | Any ideas on what the reason for that is? |
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| 12:20.01 | nroej | hi |
| 12:20.30 | nroej | got a problem with app_meetme, ztdummy is loaded, but asterisk says it is unable to open the pseudo device :( |
| 12:20.40 | nroej | and zttest runs fine ... |
| 12:24.42 | nroej | .. any hints |
| 12:24.43 | nroej | ?? |
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| 12:30.47 | tzafrir | nroej, permission issues? |
| 12:30.53 | nroej | nope |
| 12:30.56 | nroej | tried it as root |
| 12:30.58 | tzafrir | ls -ld /dev/zap /dev/zap/pseudo |
| 12:30.59 | nroej | also |
| 12:31.14 | nroej | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 140 2007-10-28 13:21 /dev/zapcrw-rw---- 1 asterisk asterisk 196, 255 2007-10-28 13:21 /dev/zap/pseudo |
| 12:31.48 | nroej | one issue might be that it is a sparc machine? |
| 12:32.18 | tzafrir | well, if zttest runs fine then the kernel is working |
| 12:32.43 | nroej | yes it does |
| 12:32.45 | nroej | lagune:~# zttestOpened pseudo zap interface, measuring accuracy...99.998627% 99.990433% --- Results after 2 passes --- |
| 12:33.09 | nroej | strange enough |
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| 12:38.44 | tzafrir | and asterisk runs as the user "asterisk" ? |
| 12:39.23 | nroej | yes |
| 12:41.24 | nroej | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:41.34 | nroej | thats what it says |
| 12:43.43 | nroej | but it looks like some ioctls are not found |
| 12:52.55 | k31th | yo im having that same problem |
| 12:53.17 | nroej | still, or resolved? |
| 12:53.23 | k31th | still |
| 12:53.26 | k31th | are you running debian ? |
| 12:53.28 | nroej | damn ;) |
| 12:53.31 | nroej | ubuntu |
| 12:53.45 | k31th | yes it seems to reset the perms |
| 12:53.49 | k31th | to root |
| 12:53.52 | k31th | all the time |
| 12:54.02 | k31th | on /dev/zap |
| 12:54.15 | k31th | infact i was told to speak to tzafrir about this issue :D |
| 12:54.49 | tzafrir | hmmm... |
| 12:54.56 | nroej | when i run asterisk as root i got the same ussue |
| 12:54.59 | nroej | issue |
| 12:55.11 | tzafrir | Linux/sparc? |
| 12:55.46 | nroej | yepp |
| 12:56.00 | tzafrir | One possible reason is non-mathcing version of zaptel.h |
| 12:56.28 | tzafrir | the one used in building zaptel (kernel) vs. the one used for building asterisk |
| 12:56.38 | tzafrir | this might fail some ioctls |
| 12:57.01 | nroej | i see |
| 12:57.04 | nroej | how to fix? |
| 12:57.16 | nroej | just copy |
| 12:57.20 | nroej | ? |
| 12:57.21 | tzafrir | Do you use asterisk from debs or from source? Zaptel? |
| 12:57.34 | k31th | tzafrir: I did from source |
| 12:58.09 | nroej | both from source |
| 12:58.16 | tzafrir | If both looked at the same zaptel.h, this is probably not the issue |
| 12:58.17 | nroej | asterisk 1.4.13 zaptel 1.4.6 |
| 12:59.17 | marl | hi there, does asterisk have a trace function for the dialplan? i am wanting to see what is happening in the dial plan as a call is processed, i know i can add tons of noops, but was wandering if there was a dialplan debug option anyware, that just lists the lines in the dialplan as they are processed? |
| 12:59.49 | nroej | marl: you could use asterisk -rvvvvvc |
| 12:59.52 | nroej | i guess |
| 13:00.58 | nroej | tzafrir: there is no zaptel.h in my asterisk src dir |
| 13:01.29 | marl | can u filter the output in anyway? like using grep or something |
| 13:02.00 | nroej | redirectj to a file and then grep |
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| 13:02.16 | nroej | i am not sure about the logging.... |
| 13:02.19 | marl | ok thanks |
| 13:02.27 | nroej | maybe that could help as well |
| 13:02.38 | tzafrir | tail -f /var/log/asterisk/messages |
| 13:03.12 | k31th | | grep exten ? |
| 13:03.39 | marl | does the * log file display the dialplan lines as they are processed |
| 13:03.42 | marl | ? |
| 13:05.09 | ai-a | cli outpu does. |
| 13:05.13 | ai-a | *output. |
| 13:05.49 | marl | ok thanks :) |
| 13:05.58 | k31th | tzafrir: out of interest wats yyour perms on your debian system for ls -lia /dev/zap |
| 13:06.29 | k31th | and you nroej |
| 13:07.06 | nroej | crw-rw---- asterisk asterisk for all of them |
| 13:07.13 | k31th | id like to know why it's doing this as I would pref to using debian / ubuntu over centos |
| 13:07.27 | k31th | nroej: do your perms stay the same if you restart zaptel ? |
| 13:07.47 | nroej | yepp |
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| 13:09.04 | k31th | mine dont |
| 13:09.13 | k31th | but i am not convinced this is the issue tbh |
| 13:09.34 | nroej | yep |
| 13:09.43 | tzafrir | k31th, root,dialout, 660 |
| 13:09.52 | nroej | k31th: grep for zap at /var/log/kern.log |
| 13:10.09 | nroej | are there lines complaining about ictls? |
| 13:10.12 | nroej | ioctls? |
| 13:11.47 | k31th | no |
| 13:11.52 | k31th | doesnt look like it |
| 13:11.53 | nroej | hm |
| 13:11.54 | nroej | ok |
| 13:12.02 | k31th | tzafrir: same |
| 13:12.14 | k31th | tzafrir: did you install from src? |
| 13:12.30 | tzafrir | If you see errors in kern.log about ioctls, then this is probably an issue with non-matching /usr/include/zaptel/zaptel.h asterisk was built with |
| 13:12.39 | tzafrir | k31th, me? from debs |
| 13:12.55 | nroej | tzafrir: how to fix that? |
| 13:13.14 | nroej | tzafrir: ahh |
| 13:13.19 | nroej | wait i know |
| 13:13.39 | k31th | tzafrir: I don't see errors there |
| 13:13.45 | nroej | tzafrir: |
| 13:13.53 | nroej | i know now why the ioctls failed |
| 13:14.12 | k31th | tzafrir: did you add that repo you showed me the other day to your sources.conf? |
| 13:14.22 | nroej | i did build * with an older version of zaptel installed an then choose a new one |
| 13:14.50 | k31th | chose a new one? |
| 13:15.04 | nroej | like builded and installed a new one |
| 13:15.27 | k31th | built* |
| 13:15.44 | k31th | humm |
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| 13:16.06 | nroej | k31th: does t |
| 13:16.15 | nroej | does ztcfg -vv give any errors |
| 13:16.17 | nroej | ? |
| 13:16.21 | k31th | infact "like building and installing a new one." |
| 13:16.27 | linxroute | :) hi there asterisk user from vietnam |
| 13:16.37 | k31th | 0 channels to configure. |
| 13:16.43 | k31th | nroej: wat do you get |
| 13:16.44 | linxroute | anyone here have used asterisk with GUI ? |
| 13:16.51 | k31th | yes... |
| 13:17.03 | linxroute | i have been using asterisk for 3 years now but never used any GUI |
| 13:17.09 | nroej | nothin |
| 13:17.09 | nroej | nothinioctl(ZT_LOADZONE) failed: Invalid argument |
| 13:17.09 | nroej | line 15: Unable to register tone zone 'us' |
| 13:17.10 | nroej | ZT_DEFAULTZONE failed: Invalid argument (22) |
| 13:17.23 | linxroute | can you guy suggest which one comes with the most features ? |
| 13:17.39 | k31th | why start using a gui if you are good at doing it by hand? |
| 13:17.46 | linxroute | asteriskNow - Trixbox ? |
| 13:18.10 | linxroute | helloooo |
| 13:18.13 | linxroute | :) |
| 13:18.16 | k31th | asterisk-gui / freepbx on it's own if you must use a gui imo |
| 13:18.39 | linxroute | what about asterisk now ? |
| 13:18.40 | k31th | ~trixbox |
| 13:18.41 | jbot | it has been said that trixbox is a full linux distro that includes FreePBX, and other 3rd party add-ons. It is all this extra stuff which makes trixbox seriously painful to support and hence you will find little help here for it. Try asking in #trixbox or on their forums & WIKI at http://www.trixbox.org |
| 13:19.10 | linxroute | well actualy i prefer orignal asterisk |
| 13:19.14 | k31th | ~asterisknow |
| 13:19.30 | linxroute | that's why i have asking you guys out there |
| 13:19.34 | k31th | linxroute: #asterisknow #asteriskgui |
| 13:19.45 | linxroute | who might have experiences with those GUIs |
| 13:19.50 | linxroute | thanks |
| 13:20.06 | k31th | asterisk-gui is far less agressive and edits the confs directly |
| 13:20.18 | k31th | freepbx stores it in mysql db |
| 13:20.44 | k31th | linxroute: I would stick to what you knew best, i can use a gui but am learning to do it by hand |
| 13:21.22 | k31th | nroej: no idea why im not working |
| 13:21.55 | k31th | nroej: when you try joining a confrence do you get "incorrect confrence number" error played? |
| 13:22.02 | nroej | jepp |
| 13:22.05 | linxroute | thanks alot K31 |
| 13:22.11 | shtoom | I am writing API for building GUIs for asterisk configuration ! |
| 13:22.22 | linxroute | we are actually selling alot asterisk boxs |
| 13:23.06 | linxroute | since we can get very cheap price on ip phone in my country like 35$ for a good ip phone |
| 13:24.19 | nroej | bbl |
| 13:25.38 | k31th | nroej: ok man, let me know if you get it fixed? |
| 13:25.42 | k31th | I will do the same. |
| 13:27.29 | nroej | yeah |
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| 13:41.28 | tzafrir | shtoom, what kind of API? |
| 13:46.58 | linxroute | using CLI is the best |
| 13:47.12 | linxroute | GUI only to mess things up |
| 13:50.20 | shtoom | tzafrir: XML API which can be used to build GUIs of different tastes |
| 13:51.45 | tzafrir | What do you mean by "XML"? where will the config data be stored? |
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| 13:52.54 | shtoom | the programmer who is using the API sees every thing in xml the actual config data is stored in normal conf files or in any DB |
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| 13:55.45 | shtoom | I found mxml provided by asterisk gui is a bit similar but it is very basic in which the web designer has to have to the knowledge of asterisk config |
| 13:56.45 | shtoom | I am writing the API to be more specific for each conf file with well defined xml schemas. |
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| 14:38.06 | cl4sh | hi all |
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| 14:59.40 | Greek-Boy | hi BeeBuu |
| 14:59.45 | Greek-Boy | always good to know there are new asterisk users :) |
| 15:00.09 | BeeBuu | hi,all,asterisk got "s","i" & "t" extension |
| 15:00.35 | BeeBuu | is there any else more? |
| 15:01.34 | BeeBuu | ~extension |
| 15:02.12 | puzzled | h |
| 15:02.45 | puzzled | t = timeout, i = invalid, d= start |
| 15:02.55 | BeeBuu | h for what? |
| 15:02.59 | puzzled | d= should be s |
| 15:03.06 | puzzled | iirc hangup |
| 15:04.00 | puzzled | BeeBuu: buy or download the asterisk book. it has all this info |
| 15:04.44 | Corydon76-dig | There is also a "T" timeout, which different from "t" timeout |
| 15:05.15 | BeeBuu | why i can't found they in the book? |
| 15:06.20 | Corydon76-dig | ~thebook |
| 15:06.21 | jbot | Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf |
| 15:08.53 | Corydon76-dig | Page 130 |
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| 15:11.38 | hi365 | has anyone managed to use touch to scedual a call in future (using call files)? |
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| 15:12.20 | Corydon76-dig | hi365: they don't work that way |
| 15:12.38 | hi365 | hmm, voip-info must be outdated then |
| 15:12.45 | hi365 | is there another way? |
| 15:12.47 | BeeBuu | thanks,corydon76-dig |
| 15:13.04 | Corydon76-dig | It's a nice thought, but the way it works (and has always worked) is that the directory is scanned for presence |
| 15:13.43 | hi365 | Corydon76-dig: are you familiar with this? http://svn.digium.com/view/asterisk/trunk/doc/callfiles.txt?view=markup&pathrev=30299 <---- last paragraph |
| 15:14.02 | Corydon76-dig | Yes, you'd use a cron job to place the file in the directory at the right time |
| 15:14.30 | hi365 | am i reading wrong, or is it a mistake? |
| 15:14.44 | hi365 | "Call files that have the time of the last modification in the future are ignored |
| 15:14.44 | hi365 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:14.49 | Corydon76-dig | It is a mistake |
| 15:16.04 | Corydon76-dig | Well, I'll be a monkey's uncle |
| 15:16.16 | Corydon76-dig | I never saw that code in there before |
| 15:18.08 | Corydon76-dig | Ah... you have to specify alwaysdelete=no in the spool file to get that behavior |
| 15:18.43 | hi365 | Corydon76-dig: interetsingly, if i MANUALY move a modified call file, asterisk just ignors it (presumably waiting for the r"ight" time) |
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| 15:19.53 | Corydon76-dig | You'd still need to create the file elsewhere and move it into place |
| 15:20.25 | tzafrir | but asterisk constantly polls those files, so it's not a good idea to keep too many of them there, right? |
| 15:20.25 | Corydon76-dig | The scanning of the directory happens continuously, so if you create the file there, it could be recognized before you have a chance to change the mtime |
| 15:21.27 | Corydon76-dig | Yeah, and stat(2) is an expensive operation |
| 15:21.52 | hi365 | Corydon76-dig: that yhy you have to change the time befor you move |
| 15:22.07 | hi365 | tzafrir: i dint think ine mincha reminder will clog the system :) |
| 15:22.12 | hi365 | ine=one |
| 15:24.02 | BeeBuu | another question:does asteriskNOW can setup a E1 card? |
| 15:24.36 | Corydon76-dig | hi365: make sure that you create the file on the same physical partition |
| 15:24.52 | hi365 | yup |
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| 15:43.54 | hi365 | can anyone sugest a reliable per minute itsp provider? |
| 15:50.07 | nestAr | i have had good luck with vitelity |
| 15:55.28 | xheliox | Teliax mostly doesn't suck. |
| 15:55.49 | xheliox | Sometimes. |
| 15:56.18 | Greek-Boy | who here works with call centers? |
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| 16:04.22 | Nugget | I do whenever my DSL is down, but otherwise rarely. :) |
| 16:05.31 | Greek-Boy | lol |
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| 16:25.52 | alin` | is there an ECHO CANCELLER for * that does not use the ZAPTEL driver? |
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| 16:26.50 | blitzrage | that statement would have been just as effective without the caps :) |
| 16:26.59 | [TK]D-Fender | alin`, Yes... all external for T1 which.... will require you to use Zaptel to interface with anyways :) |
| 16:27.49 | [TK]D-Fender | alin`, But to sut the other side off short, No, don't dream of EC-ing an ITSP connection. If they suck, you're screwed |
| 16:29.32 | alin` | [TK]D-Fender: but where can I find an echo canceller written just in User Mode, using no module ? |
| 16:29.43 | Nugget | Wwhhaatt ddooeess aann eecchhoo ccaanncceelleerr ddoo?? |
| 16:29.45 | alin` | OSLEC uses zaptel? |
| 16:29.58 | [TK]D-Fender | alin`, So far I'd class that in the category of "things that don't exist" |
| 16:30.19 | [TK]D-Fender | alin`, Yes, it compiles in just like HPEC |
| 16:30.55 | alin` | :( |
| 16:31.43 | alin` | [TK]D-Fender: My problem is that I want to write an echo canceller without using a module in kernel. |
| 16:31.51 | alin` | That is what I need. |
| 16:31.59 | [TK]D-Fender | alin`, then go right ahead and do that. |
| 16:32.11 | alin` | Nugget: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echo_cancellation |
| 16:32.31 | alin` | [TK]D-Fender: I wish to know an open source as starting point |
| 16:32.33 | Qwell | alin`: voip doesn't have echo, so.. |
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| 16:33.29 | [TK]D-Fender | alin`, go look at the existing stuff and see what it takes for it NOT to require a kernel module |
| 16:33.44 | Qwell | just seems a bit futile |
| 16:33.59 | hi365 | is there anyway to set the default language for the local chanel? |
| 16:35.01 | [TK]D-Fender | hi365, Depending how you call it it may inherit a language (I suspect), or if through a call file can be set. |
| 16:35.12 | hi365 | thanks |
| 16:35.51 | alin` | [TK]D-Fender: thank you. |
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| 16:38.09 | [TK]D-Fender | alin`, a tip : if you're looking to abstract this, you'll want to find a way to hook this right into something like channel.c so it can apply to all * resources. |
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| 16:44.29 | alin` | [TK]D-Fender: that is what I want |
| 16:44.51 | alin` | I made a transcodec for RTP packets |
| 16:45.04 | [TK]D-Fender | alin`, Go research on how it works and see where you can get your hands on the voice frame in its most "raw" form. |
| 16:45.15 | [TK]D-Fender | alin`, a what? |
| 16:45.16 | alin` | and when the voice is in linear, I want to apply an echo canceller too |
| 16:45.27 | alin` | [TK]D-Fender: I did so: |
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| 16:45.37 | alin` | I have the frame in codec X |
| 16:45.48 | alin` | I translate the frame in SLINEAR |
| 16:45.58 | alin` | then I translate in codec Y |
| 16:46.06 | alin` | that is what I did |
| 16:46.29 | alin` | Now the new problem is to apply echo canceller on SLINEAR frame |
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| 16:47.01 | alin` | I started with *' sources, and I made a transcodec of 200KB |
| 16:47.21 | ManxPower | you really can't echo cancel stuff except at the PSTN/VOIP gateway. |
| 16:47.54 | alin` | It works excellently |
| 16:48.21 | alin` | ManxPower: ??? |
| 16:48.49 | ManxPower | alin`: once the audio is in voip the latency is too high to do EC |
| 16:49.56 | alin` | ManxPower: I do not understand what you mean at all |
| 16:50.12 | ManxPower | alin`: you will eventually. |
| 16:51.16 | alin` | http://www.rowetel.com/images/echo/spra129.pdf |
| 16:52.12 | alin` | ManxPower: what means "the audio is in voip" ? and what means "the latency is too high" ? |
| 16:52.17 | ManxPower | alin`: that can do 16ms of echo canceling. |
| 16:52.51 | ManxPower | Echo on Voip is generally more than 16ms. |
| 16:52.55 | alin` | - |
| 16:53.16 | ManxPower | you have network latency, codec conversion latency, phone latency, etc. |
| 16:55.38 | alin` | So every mobile phone has < than 16ms of latency. True? |
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| 16:56.12 | ManxPower | alin`: no, the EC is not done at the mobile phone, it is done at the PSTN/CARRIER gateway. |
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| 16:57.06 | ManxPower | I imagine most mobile phones with speakerphone mode can do some primitive EC when in speakerphone mode. |
| 16:57.09 | alin` | ManxPower: ah, by the company, not by the individual phone... I understand. |
| 16:58.29 | alin` | and how the mobile phone notifies the PBX of the company that I use HIGH voice? |
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| 16:59.26 | ManxPower | Define "high voice"? |
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| 17:06.36 | alin` | So when X uses high voice the PBX knows that, and in this situation when a packet leaves from X to Y , the PBX applies echo cancellation on that packet, keeping into a buffer last packets that came from Y. That is what happens in GSM telephony? |
| 17:08.33 | ManxPower | alin`: ALL Mobile/PSTN calls are echocanceled. |
| 17:13.56 | alin` | ok, thank you all. I will see how I will do. |
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| 17:18.59 | robin_sz | meep? |
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| 17:19.29 | logicwrath | Fender are you there? |
| 17:20.54 | robin_sz | so, what I am trying to do ... is wring various extensions in an office for incoming calls, first, phoen 1, then after 10 seconds, phone 1 & 2, then after another 10 seconds phones 1,2 & 3 etc ... various methods have been tried all problematic |
| 17:22.11 | robin_sz | my current version looks like: |
| 17:22.20 | robin_sz | exten => 5102,1,Dial(LOCAL/900005000@public&LOCAL/900105002@public&LOCAL/900205001@public&LOCAL/900205004@public&LOCAL/900201000@private,60,t) |
| 17:23.00 | robin_sz | where the 900 exten is 900<time delay><extension> |
| 17:23.32 | robin_sz | which sort of works, but if one of the phoens is offline, well, it just drops out straight to voicemail |
| 17:25.27 | Qwell | app_followme |
| 17:25.46 | robin_sz | pardon? |
| 17:26.05 | Qwell | or, use a queue with weights |
| 17:26.17 | Qwell | OR, don't try to call them via a macro that calls vm |
| 17:26.53 | robin_sz | im pretty sure im not using a macro |
| 17:27.04 | Qwell | if it's hitting voicemail, you obviously are |
| 17:27.12 | robin_sz | really? |
| 17:27.16 | robin_sz | oh. hmm |
| 17:27.55 | robin_sz | shall i paste the bits to a pastebin? |
| 17:30.13 | logicwrath | What are some business grade voip carriers for 50-75 lines? |
| 17:31.41 | Corydon76-dig | Uh, business grade? |
| 17:32.15 | Corydon76-dig | If you want business grade, get your own PRI |
| 17:32.27 | logicwrath | a PRI is just a T1 right? |
| 17:32.41 | Corydon76-dig | voip over the Internet is ALWAYS just best-effort |
| 17:32.51 | WizBomb | PRI's are actual Voice Channels |
| 17:32.54 | Corydon76-dig | which is not good enough for business grade |
| 17:32.54 | ManxPower | logicwrath: no. A PRI is a T-1 with special signalling. |
| 17:33.06 | alin` | What means "sampling" ? |
| 17:33.11 | ManxPower | or an E-1, of course. |
| 17:33.15 | WizBomb | 24 Voice Channels with 1 "Data" channel |
| 17:33.19 | WizBomb | i think right? |
| 17:33.26 | ManxPower | WizBomb: 32 voice (B-channel) |
| 17:33.30 | Corydon76-dig | alin`: the number of bits of audio per second |
| 17:33.31 | ManxPower | ..er.. 32 |
| 17:33.34 | ManxPower | 23 |
| 17:33.38 | ManxPower | apparently I had too much coffee. |
| 17:33.42 | WizBomb | 1 too many |
| 17:33.42 | WizBomb | lol |
| 17:33.46 | WizBomb | im not in a happy mood right now |
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| 17:33.55 | Corydon76-dig | E1 is 30 voice channels |
| 17:33.55 | WizBomb | gotta go complain to ATT/Cingular |
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| 17:34.15 | WizBomb | my 8525 Drops calls and only last 15 minutes in phone call |
| 17:34.18 | logicwrath | so the PRI routes to the voip carrier? |
| 17:34.32 | Corydon76-dig | No, a PRI routes to the PSTN |
| 17:34.36 | alin` | Corydon76-dig: thanks |
| 17:35.05 | Corydon76-dig | alin`: for telephony, the rate is always 8000 samples per second |
| 17:35.45 | alin` | a, ok, thanks |
| 17:36.05 | Corydon76-dig | logicwrath: voip is fine for a private backbone, but it will NEVER be business grade over the public Internet |
| 17:36.24 | alin` | Corydon76-dig: for asterisk 8000 bits/sec too |
| 17:36.33 | WizBomb | can guarrentee that Comcrap wont "Delay" packets |
| 17:36.37 | WizBomb | LOL |
| 17:36.42 | Corydon76-dig | alin`: for the time being, correct |
| 17:36.46 | WizBomb | *cant |
| 17:36.51 | curtn | Corydon76-dig: never say never :) |
| 17:37.27 | Corydon76-dig | curtn: for the current status of the Internet, a provider can NEVER claim that the Internet will provide business class service |
| 17:37.53 | Corydon76-dig | Well, not truthfully, anyway |
| 17:38.03 | alin` | the OSLEC echo caneceller uses zaptel driver :( |
| 17:38.19 | Qwell | alin`: there's really not much point in trying to echo can voip... |
| 17:38.47 | Qwell | the most common type of echo (hybrid) occurs when you transition from 2 wires to 4 |
| 17:38.54 | Corydon76-dig | alin`: the only place where voip echo is possible is at the two acoustic ends |
| 17:39.02 | Greek-Boy | what special signalling does a PRI have? SS7? |
| 17:39.09 | Corydon76-dig | but that's acoustic echo, not transport echo |
| 17:39.11 | Strom_M | Greek-Boy: ISDN |
| 17:39.17 | Strom_M | aka Q.931 |
| 17:39.22 | Greek-Boy | i c |
| 17:39.38 | Greek-Boy | i was looking for SS7 support in asterisk. its available but very expensive :( |
| 17:39.44 | curtn | Corydon76-dig: there is the skype solution... but i agree with you.. in the current status |
| 17:40.07 | curtn | Corydon76-dig: (QoS in skype) |
| 17:40.31 | Strom_M | Greek-Boy: if you don't even know the difference between ISDN and SS7, you probably shouldn't be touching SS7 with a ten foot pole |
| 17:40.34 | alin` | Corydon76-dig: I want to write a router of RTP packets from the phone A to B, and I want the router to do echo cancel |
| 17:40.47 | Corydon76-dig | curtn: skype can't guarantee that their QoS bits will be paid attention to at any point over the pipe, which is the fundamental issue |
| 17:41.03 | ManxPower | PRI is as close as you can get to SS7 without actually doing SS7. |
| 17:41.14 | Strom_M | ManxPower: indeed |
| 17:41.20 | Corydon76-dig | alin`: That's pointless. The only place where the echo can should be done is in the phone itself |
| 17:41.24 | ManxPower | For MOST people PRI is just fine. |
| 17:41.28 | curtn | Corydon76-dig: maybe RSVP could be the solution ? |
| 17:41.40 | Qwell | get a point to point link to your ITSP |
| 17:41.44 | ManxPower | curtn: not over the current internet is it now. |
| 17:41.44 | ManxPower | ..not |
| 17:41.48 | Corydon76-dig | curtn: I'm not trying to engineer a solution |
| 17:41.48 | Qwell | that's about the only way you're going to guarantee QoS |
| 17:42.03 | Qwell | but if you're going to go that far, just get a PRI |
| 17:42.21 | Greek-Boy | Strom_M: i'm making the effort to learn all about SS7. I've just started though. Because my company is going to use a SS7 link to a carrier soon. |
| 17:42.24 | Corydon76-dig | Private backbone is the only way you're going to assure QoS |
| 17:42.24 | ManxPower | BellSouth DSL service actually REMOVES any QoS bits when a packet goes into of out of their network |
| 17:42.57 | Qwell | ss7 provides no media, right? |
| 17:43.05 | Qwell | (directly) |
| 17:43.09 | Strom_M | correct |
| 17:43.09 | Strom_M | SS7 is just for signaling |
| 17:43.18 | Corydon76-dig | Technically, PRI doesn't provide media, either |
| 17:43.31 | Strom_M | Corydon76-dig: the signaling part, no |
| 17:43.36 | Strom_M | but the B-channels do :) |
| 17:43.43 | Corydon76-dig | It just refers to an external channel |
| 17:43.48 | Strom_M | Greek-Boy: you should learn about SS7 from Telcordia documents |
| 17:44.03 | Strom_M | Corydon76-dig: also to clear bearer channels rather than RBS |
| 17:44.11 | Greek-Boy | thanks Strom_M; and do u know of any solution to use SS7 in asterisk? |
| 17:44.20 | Strom_M | Greek-Boy: no |
| 17:44.33 | alin` | Corydon76-dig: but asterisk is not a phone, however it has implemented an echo cancel algorithm |
| 17:44.37 | [TK]D-Fender | Greek-Boy, lib_ss7. Go WIKI it, and... |
| 17:44.38 | Corydon76-dig | Strom_M: I don't think technically there's anything that would make PRI unable to control RBS channels, either |
| 17:44.38 | [TK]D-Fender | ~wglwat |
| 17:44.38 | jbot | well, wglwat is well, good luck with all that |
| 17:44.46 | Qwell | alin`: for zaptel |
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| 17:44.55 | Qwell | that's the only place echo can makes sense in asterisk |
| 17:44.59 | Greek-Boy | thanks TK, u always have an answer |
| 17:44.59 | Corydon76-dig | alin`: only for the physical phone interfaces |
| 17:45.01 | robin_sz | @Qwell: http://pastebin.ca/752721 |
| 17:45.12 | Strom_M | Corydon76-dig: true, but PRI is built around the expectation of 64kbps channels for voice |
| 17:45.31 | Greek-Boy | do call centers use SS7 or not really? |
| 17:45.35 | robin_sz | @Qwell: basically, if a phone is offline, it drops straight through to vm |
| 17:45.40 | Strom_M | Greek-Boy: probably not |
| 17:45.45 | Corydon76-dig | Strom_M: it would be interesting, for sure, to enable PRI to control POTS lines |
| 17:46.06 | Corydon76-dig | not that any provider supports that, of course |
| 17:46.10 | Strom_M | Greek-Boy: call center should be fine with just ISDN |
| 17:46.14 | Qwell | RTP signalled via PRI :p |
| 17:46.29 | Strom_M | Qwell: well, thats sort of what H.323 is |
| 17:46.58 | Qwell | are you telling me that I just accidentally invented h323? |
| 17:47.06 | Strom_M | no |
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| 17:47.18 | [TK]D-Fender | Greek-Boy, You only want SS7 if you're looking to become a TELCO. |
| 17:47.22 | Corydon76-dig | Major benefit would be all the extra information you could get over the PRI signalling, including hangup and busy detection |
| 17:47.30 | alin` | Corydon76-dig: so I have no chance to start from the echo canceller from asterisk in order to write a router that makes echo cancel? |
| 17:48.11 | Corydon76-dig | [TK]D-Fender: my understanding is that for developing countries, they're now only provisioning POTS or SS7... |
| 17:48.27 | [TK]D-Fender | Corydon76-dig, wow |
| 17:48.31 | Corydon76-dig | so if you want a digitally signalled line, it'll be SS7 only |
| 17:48.35 | Strom_M | Corydon76-dig: that sounds like nonsense to me |
| 17:48.51 | Strom_M | SS7 is not for CPE interconnects |
| 17:48.56 | Corydon76-dig | Strom_M: if they have to have SS7 anyway, why bother with the cost of PRI, too? |
| 17:49.13 | ManxPower | Strom_M: in some parts of the world the telco wants customers to have SS7 and not PRI. |
| 17:49.25 | Strom_M | because you don't want untrusted CPE flooding the SS7 network with garbage |
| 17:49.25 | Corydon76-dig | If you're on a shoestring budget, but you have to have internationally routed calls, you'll go for the bare minimum |
| 17:49.32 | Greek-Boy | I thought PRI need SS7 to work? |
| 17:49.38 | [TK]D-Fender | Corydon76-dig, Makes perfect sense... |
| 17:49.50 | ManxPower | Greek-Boy: it does, but only to the CO, not to the customer. |
| 17:49.56 | [TK]D-Fender | Greek-Boy, No, PRI is LOWER on the food chain than SS7 |
| 17:50.10 | alin` | Corydon76-dig: it is possible |
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| 17:50.19 | Strom_M | [TK]D-Fender: ISDN requires that part of the network have SS7 ;) |
| 17:50.30 | Strom_M | at least in a PSTN context |
| 17:50.34 | [TK]D-Fender | Strom_M, I'll take that as a "yes" :) |
| 17:50.44 | [TK]D-Fender | Strom_M, Except... No :) |
| 17:50.48 | Corydon76-dig | Well, PSTN certainly now implies SS7 links |
| 17:51.07 | [TK]D-Fender | Strom_M, I can run PRI between a pile of servers till the cows come home without SS7 :) |
| 17:51.08 | Corydon76-dig | although you certainly can link two machines together with only PRI, and have no SS7 at all |
| 17:51.16 | Greek-Boy | SS7, what a complex topic |
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| 17:51.37 | Strom_M | [TK]D-Fender: yes, hence why I qualified that with "in a PSTN context" |
| 17:51.44 | Strom_M | YOU FAIL AT READING |
| 17:51.49 | Strom_M | :) |
| 17:51.52 | [TK]D-Fender | Greek-Boy, Indeed. So if you CAN use PRI, the forget about SS7 and save yourself a lof of therapy. |
| 17:52.21 | [TK]D-Fender | Strom_M, Context? We don't neeeddd no seeenking context! |
| 17:52.30 | Corydon76-dig | I dunno, SS7 solves a fundamental problem with multiple D-channels |
| 17:52.42 | Strom_M | Corydon76-dig: oh? |
| 17:52.46 | Greek-Boy | can E1 be used for media and SS7 signalling? |
| 17:52.50 | Strom_M | what fundamental problem is that? |
| 17:53.15 | Corydon76-dig | Yeah, each SS7 link can send call setup info independent of one another, without one being the master and another being only a backup |
| 17:53.51 | Corydon76-dig | In PRI, a backup D-channel can't send call setup info without becoming the master |
| 17:54.37 | Corydon76-dig | Greek-Boy: you'll be waiting 20 years for telcos to hit anywhere near 90% |
| 17:54.51 | Greek-Boy | every person in the world should have a unique SIP ID or similiar |
| 17:55.07 | Corydon76-dig | Greek-Boy: consider that even as the telcos are converting their backbones, they still aren't provisioning lines as voip |
| 17:55.11 | Strom_M | Corydon76-dig: yeah, but when have you ever had a PRI with 2,000 B-channels? :) |
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| 17:55.33 | Greek-Boy | Corydon76-dig: how are they converting their backbones? with fiber? |
| 17:55.38 | Corydon76-dig | robin_sz: it'll happen, but on a much slower rate |
| 17:55.56 | Corydon76-dig | Greek-Boy: I believe that's proprietary information |
| 17:56.09 | Greek-Boy | lol |
| 17:56.13 | Greek-Boy | k |
| 17:56.13 | Strom_M | Greek-Boy: the backbones are already pretty much all fiber |
| 17:56.16 | Strom_M | it's a switching and signaling change |
| 17:56.27 | k31th | Strom_M: still not fixed that probalme. |
| 17:56.36 | Greek-Boy | so they physical side, lets call it the first phase, is complete :P |
| 17:56.39 | k31th | problem* |
| 17:56.40 | Strom_M | k31th: talk to corydon or qwell |
| 17:56.43 | robin_sz | as a way of connecting phones together on a dedicated network, its fantastic, over the internet, it sucks, bigtime. if it was a separate net for phone traffic then maybe |
| 17:56.43 | Corydon76-dig | They're probably using H.323 internally, though |
| 17:56.47 | Strom_M | Greek-Boy: nope |
| 17:57.03 | Corydon76-dig | A few might be using SIP |
| 17:57.03 | Strom_M | Greek-Boy: they have to replace their TDM switches with packet switches |
| 17:57.07 | Strom_M | and that' |
| 17:57.11 | Strom_M | that's a tall order |
| 17:57.37 | Corydon76-dig | H.323 represents no signalling translation, whereas SIP would require quite a bit to avoid possible loss of data |
| 17:57.46 | robin_sz | atm and stm have served well |
| 17:58.01 | Strom_M | robin_sz: don't base your perceptions only on your experience with VoIP over the internet |
| 17:58.10 | Strom_M | and crappy consumer-grade technology |
| 17:58.19 | robin_sz | Strom_M: thats all I have to use as a model |
| 17:58.25 | Corydon76-dig | voip over private backbones is MUCH better controlled |
| 17:58.37 | robin_sz | every 'net based service I have used has been crap |
| 17:58.53 | k31th | ok i have created a confrence room... when i call it i get this on the CLI |
| 17:58.55 | k31th | [Oct 28 18:57:44] WARNING[23651]: app_meetme.c:772 build_conf: Unable to open ps eudo device |
| 17:59.07 | Strom_M | robin_sz: that's a lot like only driving a Yugo and then declaring that every car ever manufactured is utter junk |
| 17:59.09 | k31th | I have ztdummy loaded. |
| 17:59.11 | Qwell | install zaptel, load ztdummy |
| 17:59.22 | robin_sz | over a dedicated network, maybe it would be ok, but I oubt it will be as robust as tdm |
| 17:59.28 | tzafrir | k31th, still with that problem? |
| 17:59.35 | Corydon76-dig | k31th: run dmesg and look for errors with ztdummy |
| 17:59.36 | tzafrir | zttest works, right? |
| 17:59.39 | k31th | tzafrir: fraid so mate |
| 18:00.00 | tzafrir | you get errors for some ioctls? |
| 18:00.05 | Qwell | no udev rules, no doubt |
| 18:00.05 | robin_sz | Strom_M: well, yes, but so far they are only making yugos |
| 18:00.06 | Corydon76-dig | k31th: if /dev/zap/pseudo exists, then it's probably a permissions error |
| 18:00.16 | Strom_M | robin_sz: no, there's more :) |
| 18:00.20 | k31th | Unable to open zap interface: Is a directory |
| 18:00.25 | k31th | for zttest |
| 18:00.34 | robin_sz | Strom_M: not in these parts |
| 18:00.42 | tzafrir | ls -ld /dev/zap /dev/zap/pseudo |
| 18:00.43 | Strom_M | robin_sz: *shrug* |
| 18:00.44 | Corydon76-dig | k31th: check your udev settings |
| 18:01.16 | k31th | Corydon76-dig: I think this is udev every time i restart zaptel it resets the perms |
| 18:01.26 | k31th | drwxrwxr-x 3 asterisk asterisk 140 2007-10-28 04:40 /dev/zap |
| 18:01.27 | k31th | drwxrwxr-x 2 asterisk asterisk 40 2007-10-26 17:24 /dev/zap/pseudo |
| 18:02.13 | Corydon76-dig | k31th: you can fix that in /etc/udev.d/ |
| 18:02.29 | k31th | ok so those perms are fine, the dir is there, ztdummy is loaded. |
| 18:02.32 | tzafrir | I suspect that /dev/zap/pseudo was generated statically |
| 18:02.35 | Corydon76-dig | or /etc/udev/rules.d/ |
| 18:02.42 | k31th | tzafrir: it was yes. |
| 18:02.44 | tzafrir | rmdir /dev/zap/pseudo |
| 18:02.55 | k31th | is this wrong? |
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| 18:03.10 | tzafrir | rmmod ztdummy zaptel; modprobe ztdummy |
| 18:03.31 | tzafrir | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:03.47 | k31th | ah shit. |
| 18:04.29 | alin` | Corydon76-dig: I expressed myself wrong. My problem is : I have a stream of RTP packets between 2 phones. These packets pass by a router. And I want that the router do Echo cancel. |
| 18:04.53 | robin_sz | @Qwell: would adding some sort of rule at the end of the 900XXextension help to catch the faield extension and stop it falling through? |
| 18:05.02 | alin` | Corydon76-dig: this is possible to do |
| 18:05.09 | robin_sz | @Qwell: http://pastebin.ca/752721 |
| 18:05.13 | Corydon76-dig | alin`: no |
| 18:05.18 | Corydon76-dig | alin`: it is not possible |
| 18:05.39 | alin` | ??? |
| 18:05.49 | alin` | it is not possible? |
| 18:05.53 | Corydon76-dig | echo can relies on being able to know how much time between samples the echo occurs. |
| 18:05.53 | robin_sz | nope |
| 18:06.05 | Corydon76-dig | Packetized data arrives in variable amounts of time |
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| 18:06.14 | Corydon76-dig | Hence, you're screwed |
| 18:06.15 | robin_sz | echo can has to be done at the end point |
| 18:06.33 | k31th | same error. |
| 18:06.36 | k31th | christ... |
| 18:06.45 | robin_sz | the router is the wrong place to try and do this |
| 18:06.48 | Corydon76-dig | You cannot echo cancel packets that do not arrive in static intervals |
| 18:07.32 | robin_sz | sigh ... |
| 18:07.34 | Corydon76-dig | Plus any lost packets will screw you even worse |
| 18:08.07 | alin` | Corydon76-dig: So you say that not the PBX must do the echo cancel, but the mobile phone for a telephony company. |
| 18:08.15 | Corydon76-dig | alin`: correct |
| 18:08.29 | robin_sz | so ... any other bright ideas on how to ring several phones at once? |
| 18:08.41 | Corydon76-dig | alin`: and if they don't do it, fail. |
| 18:08.51 | ManxPower | Corydon76-dig: not correct. The mobile/PSTN gateway does the echo cancel. |
| 18:09.00 | ManxPower | the mobile phone does not do the echo cancel |
| 18:09.03 | alin` | I understand |
| 18:09.08 | Corydon76-dig | robin_sz: yeah, I just added func_ringgroup to trunk this morning |
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| 18:09.33 | ManxPower | robin_sz: I bet you have analog FXO ports, right? |
| 18:09.37 | Corydon76-dig | It's a very simplified version of the calling interface in Queue |
| 18:10.00 | robin_sz | Corydon76-dig: waht I need to do is: ring phone 1, after 10 seconds if not answered ring phone 1 and 2, after another 20 seconds if no answer, ring 1,2,3 and 4 |
| 18:10.15 | Corydon76-dig | robin_sz: yeah, you can make it do that |
| 18:10.21 | robin_sz | Corydon76-dig: a fairly common office scenarion for incoming calls |
| 18:10.29 | Corydon76-dig | robin_sz: with 3 ring groups |
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| 18:10.40 | robin_sz | with one phon in each group? |
| 18:10.51 | ManxPower | robin_sz: oh that. I solved THAT problem months and months ago -- assuming all the destinations support answer supervision |
| 18:10.55 | Corydon76-dig | No, 1 phone in the first, 2 in the second, 4 in the third |
| 18:11.15 | robin_sz | Corydon76-dig: yeah, err, no thansk I can see the problem with that |
| 18:11.21 | ManxPower | robin_sz: I'll whip up and example for you |
| 18:11.43 | alin` | Corydon76-dig: can you exaplain me the logic of Echo canceller implemented in *, please? |
| 18:11.45 | alin` | Corydon76-dig: breef |
| 18:11.46 | Corydon76-dig | robin_sz: the idea is to let people add themselves and remove themselves from the group |
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| 18:12.07 | robin_sz | @Corydon76-dig: yikes, then no thanks, thats not what I need |
| 18:12.08 | alin` | Corydon76-dig: brief |
| 18:12.26 | Corydon76-dig | alin`: Do you understand Fast Fourier Transforms? |
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| 18:12.46 | robin_sz | Corydon76-dig: the other problem will be that it presumably has to swtich from group 1 to group 2 |
| 18:13.04 | Corydon76-dig | robin_sz: right, you have 3 Dial commands, each with a timeout |
| 18:13.18 | _pepo_ | hi friends |
| 18:13.21 | robin_sz | Corydon76-dig: presumably dropping a sip call, then re-initiating a second one |
| 18:13.32 | Corydon76-dig | robin_sz: correct |
| 18:13.36 | alin` | Corydon76-dig: say I do understand. |
| 18:13.39 | robin_sz | Corydon76-dig: this I was doing ages ago, its disatorous |
| 18:13.46 | Corydon76-dig | alin`: well, there you go |
| 18:14.24 | robin_sz | Corydon76-dig: clue: some phoens take longer to drop a sip and set up to be ready for the next one than * does |
| 18:14.27 | ManxPower | robin_sz: http://pastebin.ca/752744 |
| 18:14.43 | _pepo_ | when compile asterisk all is ok but which are the neccesary files to asterisk works (If try with make samples I get a lot of configuration that dont need) |
| 18:14.44 | ManxPower | my solution does not require redialing the same destination |
| 18:15.27 | robin_sz | ManxPower: thats effectivley what I have now, it fails of one of the phones is offline |
| 18:15.40 | ManxPower | corrected post: http://pastebin.ca/752746 |
| 18:15.47 | robin_sz | see: http://pastebin.ca/752721 |
| 18:15.51 | ManxPower | robin_sz: it should NOT fail if one of the phones is offline |
| 18:15.58 | robin_sz | hmmm |
| 18:16.22 | robin_sz | or on DND? |
| 18:16.23 | Corydon76-dig | robin_sz: you're dialling Local channels? |
| 18:16.27 | robin_sz | yep |
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| 18:16.35 | [TK]D-Fender | Copy & paste errors in there |
| 18:16.43 | Corydon76-dig | robin_sz: dial special ones that DON'T end in Voicemail |
| 18:16.46 | ManxPower | DND would forward the call somewhere. |
| 18:16.50 | Corydon76-dig | robin_sz: end them in Busy, instead |
| 18:16.51 | alin` | Corydon76-dig: I am not interested about the technical details. |
| 18:17.06 | Corydon76-dig | alin`: technical details is all I have |
| 18:17.13 | robin_sz | Corydon76-dig: they dont, have al ook at the pasetbin |
| 18:17.22 | [TK]D-Fender | alin`, Go start Googleing |
| 18:17.40 | alin` | You said that a PBX need not have an echo cancel alg. Then what is good for that one from *? |
| 18:17.50 | robin_sz | ManxPower: one of the phones is offline it drops stright through the dial line |
| 18:17.54 | Corydon76-dig | alin`: YOU AREN'T LISTENING |
| 18:18.08 | Corydon76-dig | alin`: the one in Asterisk is ONLY for Zaptel |
| 18:18.13 | Corydon76-dig | alin`: the one in Asterisk is ONLY for Zaptel |
| 18:18.14 | Corydon76-dig | alin`: the one in Asterisk is ONLY for Zaptel |
| 18:18.15 | ManxPower | but you can do something like this... http://pastebin.ca/752748 which should solve the "phone offline" problem |
| 18:18.19 | robin_sz | @Corydon76-dig: YES PROBABLY GOT HIS ECHO CANCELLER ENGAGED ;))) |
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| 18:18.21 | robin_sz | oops |
| 18:18.37 | ManxPower | robin_sz: my latest pastebin should fix that issue. |
| 18:18.45 | alin` | <<only for the physical phone interfaces>> |
| 18:18.55 | robin_sz | ManxPower: got it, understandy now |
| 18:19.07 | Corydon76-dig | alin`: in fact, the echo canceller isn't even IN Asterisk... it's in the zaptel layer |
| 18:19.23 | ManxPower | robin_sz: those 100x Dial()s will be killed when the original Dial(Local/...) times out (if you have a timeout) |
| 18:19.24 | Corydon76-dig | (in the kernel driver) |
| 18:19.40 | robin_sz | ManxPower: ill add a n extension to my 900xxxx right, one moment |
| 18:20.05 | ManxPower | robin_sz: "n" just means "the previous priority + 1" |
| 18:21.00 | robin_sz | http://pastebin.ca/752750 like that? |
| 18:21.28 | alin` | One supposes that the packet from the physical interface to zaptel arrives immediately. (there is not latency) |
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| 18:22.11 | ManxPower | robin_sz: no, you are overloading the Local/ stuff. you need real seperate extens or it won't work |
| 18:22.13 | alin` | that is why echo canceller can be done in zaptel supposing true what you said. |
| 18:22.15 | Corydon76-dig | Well, there is latency, but the key is that the latency is at consistent intervals |
| 18:22.41 | alin` | Corydon76-dig: ok, true |
| 18:22.44 | alin` | Corydon76-dig: ok, thanks a lot |
| 18:22.48 | ManxPower | robin_sz: take my example and use it as close to exact as you can. |
| 18:23.16 | ManxPower | THEN, when you have it working like you want, make a backup copy of your working config and then customize it into your dialplan, but get it working first. |
| 18:23.34 | Corydon76-dig | In fact, the intervals for zaptel are EXACTLY 1 ms apart |
| 18:23.36 | robin_sz | ManxPower: thats going to be very clumsy to maintain for any largeish number of extensions/times ...?? |
| 18:25.10 | Corydon76-dig | (in that time, it collects 8 samples) |
| 18:26.00 | ManxPower | robin_sz: use macros |
| 18:26.15 | robin_sz | hmmm |
| 18:26.35 | robin_sz | im coming to the "just pay someone" conclusion |
| 18:26.51 | robin_sz | this all made sense a year agoo when I installed it |
| 18:26.51 | ManxPower | but yes, it is annoying to maintain. |
| 18:27.08 | ManxPower | robin_sz: I have hundreds of lines of macros. |
| 18:27.17 | robin_sz | well yes |
| 18:27.34 | robin_sz | ive got a better idea |
| 18:28.01 | ManxPower | I'm actually, at this moment, when I'm not typing here, re-working my "dial-result" macro, which I run after many of my Dials to handle all the result codes. |
| 18:28.15 | robin_sz | its going to need some chicken bones and goats blood. |
| 18:28.29 | ManxPower | robin_sz: make it work first, then work on making it better. |
| 18:28.47 | ManxPower | and my example should do exactly what you want to do and it should work (barring typoes on my part) |
| 18:28.52 | robin_sz | its going to be make it work, then leave it and forget about it I suspect |
| 18:29.17 | ManxPower | you can do that too 8-) |
| 18:30.45 | ManxPower | Ugh. I hate macros that call themselves. |
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| 18:42.14 | robin_sz | ManxPower: so, would it not be possible to pass a delay variable to my stdexten macro, that it waits for before dialing? |
| 18:45.49 | ManxPower | robin_sz: yes, in theory. |
| 18:46.07 | ManxPower | it would be possible in theory. |
| 18:46.43 | robin_sz | hmm |
| 18:46.56 | robin_sz | thats probably than answer I guess |
| 18:47.33 | robin_sz | my actual dialstrings are : |
| 18:48.05 | robin_sz | exten => s,1,Dial(${ARG2},60,tM(xrms^${CALLERID(num)})); |
| 18:49.02 | robin_sz | where the xrms macro hooks back (via AGI) into the crm system |
| 18:53.44 | robin_sz | sigh, the problem is the extensions to devices conversion, thats the root of it |
| 18:55.25 | ManxPower | and that is why you should not assign a device the same SIP user ID as it's extension(s) |
| 18:55.50 | ManxPower | dialplans are long, complex beasts. If you try to make them simple and elegant you will fail. |
| 18:56.06 | robin_sz | I dont ... |
| 18:56.20 | robin_sz | sip user ids are always alpha for me |
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| 18:56.31 | robin_sz | extnesions numeric |
| 18:56.43 | robin_sz | helps keep it sorted in my tiny brain |
| 18:56.47 | robin_sz | or tiny brian |
| 18:56.49 | robin_sz | depending |
| 18:57.40 | alin` | http://www.widevoip.com/shop/product_info.php?products_id=233 - |
| 18:58.09 | alin` | this card has echo cancellation included in its DSP |
| 18:58.20 | robin_sz | yes |
| 18:59.01 | robin_sz | the eicon cards are similar, as are the digium ones |
| 18:59.04 | alin` | 3290 EUROS ! |
| 18:59.17 | robin_sz | yes |
| 18:59.37 | robin_sz | remind me again, you dont like the echo canceller in zaptel because? |
| 19:00.21 | robin_sz | like living in a tunnel it was |
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| 19:02.19 | alin` | i wanted to write myself a router with echo cancellation for rtp packets, but I understand it is not possible. |
| 19:04.30 | robin_sz | so? |
| 19:04.44 | alin` | so. |
| 19:05.09 | alin` | i am sorry because the problem is not solvable |
| 19:05.10 | robin_sz | a router would be halfway down the link, impossible to do echo cancel there |
| 19:06.05 | alin` | robin_sz: yes, it is not possible , because the delay of receiving a packet from the phone to the router is not constant |
| 19:06.15 | robin_sz | so, what I dont understand is why you are not happy with the echo cancel we already have? |
| 19:07.02 | alin` | robin_sz: the actual echo cancel is used just for a phone connected to *, not for a conversation. |
| 19:07.18 | alin` | directly connected |
| 19:08.01 | robin_sz | correct |
| 19:08.28 | robin_sz | there should be no need for echocnacelling digits to digits |
| 19:08.52 | robin_sz | its only needed when you cross the analogue/digital boundary, AIUI |
| 19:10.02 | alin` | I can write a router with echo canceller included for a conversation from X to Y, just if I know exactly the delay of a packet from X to router (and this delay is constant) , and identically for router <->\ Y |
| 19:11.22 | robin_sz | yes |
| 19:12.01 | robin_sz | easy on processors equipped with a crystal-ball circuit |
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| 19:12.50 | alin` | Today <ManxPower> said: << alin`: no, the EC is not done at the mobile phone, it is done at the PSTN/CARRIER gateway. [03:43]>> |
| 19:12.52 | alin` | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:13.02 | alin` | ManxPower: you were not right |
| 19:13.31 | Strom_M | alin`: mobile phones are not IP |
| 19:13.46 | robin_sz | tdm |
| 19:13.48 | Strom_M | mobile phones are TDM |
| 19:13.54 | Strom_M | and in TDM, the rules are different |
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| 19:14.07 | robin_sz | me nods |
| 19:14.08 | alin` | ah, ok |
| 19:14.20 | robin_sz | predicatbale delays |
| 19:14.53 | alin` | sor GSM telephony is different than IP/SIP |
| 19:15.04 | alin` | ok |
| 19:15.04 | robin_sz | ok, which one of you keeps moving the keys about on my keyboard? |
| 19:15.08 | robin_sz | come on, own up ... |
| 19:18.20 | robin_sz | how do I put a conditional step in an extension based on a variable? sort of .. |
| 19:18.35 | robin_sz | if(${foo}="yes"){ |
| 19:18.41 | robin_sz | exten => blah |
| 19:18.45 | robin_sz | }else{ |
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| 19:18.56 | robin_sz | exten => otherBlah |
| 19:18.57 | robin_sz | } |
| 19:19.12 | robin_sz | can you do conditionals like that? |
| 19:19.17 | robin_sz | in some way? |
| 19:19.20 | Ng | does anyone know of a working python library for making SIP calls? (not strictly asterisk related, but this seems like a good place for SIP knowledge ;) |
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| 19:23.57 | CrossRoad | upgraded Asterisk to 1.4.11 and now our IVR messages are not heard on the client phone.. please help |
| 19:24.16 | CrossRoad | IVR recordings are not heard on the client phone |
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| 19:29.47 | ManxPower | CrossRoad: try upgrading to 1.4.13 |
| 19:30.36 | CrossRoad | it was working fine.. something changed and all of a suddent.. our IVR recordings are not heard on the client phone.. |
| 19:31.05 | CrossRoad | ManxPower: any idea why this could happen? |
| 19:36.20 | ManxPower | CrossRoad: a bug |
| 19:36.22 | ManxPower | upgrade |
| 19:36.40 | ManxPower | upgrading from 1.2 to 1.4 is a massive task. |
| 19:36.42 | CrossRoad | ManXPower: thanks |
| 19:36.49 | ManxPower | things work different in 1.4 |
| 19:37.13 | ManxPower | since you read UPGRADE.txt (or whatever they call it in 1.4) you know this. |
| 19:37.50 | ManxPower | if you are upgrading from an older 1.4.x to a newer 1.4.x, then use 1.4.13, which is the latest. |
| 19:38.07 | CrossRoad | oh ok thanks a lot |
| 19:39.26 | k31th | just so long I have zaptel installed I should be able to use any zap based card right? |
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| 19:42.22 | tzafrir | k31th, right |
| 19:42.50 | tzafrir | solved your /dev/zap/pseudo problem? |
| 19:43.20 | k31th | tzafrir: no |
| 19:43.25 | k31th | im going to reinstall |
| 19:43.32 | tzafrir | why reinstall? |
| 19:43.38 | k31th | on another box i think i messed things up creating the dirs. |
| 19:44.09 | tzafrir | so rm -rf /dev/zap . It is generated by udev anyway |
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| 19:58.45 | WizBomb | the Wiz is back |
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| 20:19.48 | WizBomb | ewwww |
| 20:21.07 | WizBomb | what did i tell you about flushin me down |
| 20:22.53 | marl | could someone hav a quick look at the following and tell me wat ive done wrong? http://www.pastebin.ca/752890 it wont goto voicemail when i reject the call from my iax softfone :( i know its something daft, but im lost :( |
| 20:24.10 | ManxPower | marl: pastebin the cli output |
| 20:25.44 | ManxPower | for one thing you are recording them leaving a voicemail. |
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| 20:29.39 | ManxPower | I'm going to be collecting social security by the time I get that pastebin. |
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| 20:31.31 | marl | lol, sorry had to change the numbers! http://www.pastebin.ca/752909 |
| 20:34.16 | WizBomb | lol |
| 20:34.20 | WizBomb | u that old Mr. Powers |
| 20:34.58 | marl | lol, wish i could use sed and awk, could have done it real time! |
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| 20:40.06 | ManxPower | marl: now turn off all the debugging crap. |
| 20:40.17 | ManxPower | it's going to take me 5 mins just to find what I'm looking for. |
| 20:40.39 | marl | ok, u just want output from asterisk -r ? |
| 20:42.11 | ManxPower | the reason it is not going to voicemail is because of this: -- IAX2/web-matt-3 answered IAX2/softiaxip:4569-1 |
| 20:42.59 | ManxPower | http://www.pastebin.ca/752925 |
| 20:44.43 | marl | ok, any idea wat would cause that? becasue i am hitting the reject button on the softphone :( |
| 20:44.44 | ManxPower | you realize it make it much harder when you change all that stuff to hide silly things like your ip and phone number. ONLY change the secret. if your system is secure then it won't matter. |
| 20:44.55 | ManxPower | marl: I guess you will have to ask whoever wrote the softphone. |
| 20:45.23 | marl | ok thanks will try another softfone :( |
| 20:45.56 | marl | anyone any good sujestions for a softfone that doesnt require installing under windoz? currently using DIAX :( |
| 20:46.19 | marl | idealy want to be able to run iax softfone from usb mem stick |
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| 20:57.12 | marl | ok, i think im missing something, is 'Reject' on softfones ment to answer and hangup the call? |
| 20:57.23 | marl | thats the second iax spftfone and it is doing the same thing :( |
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| 20:58.37 | WizBomb | awww i wanna have Beek's Internet connection |
| 20:58.42 | WizBomb | FIOS |
| 20:59.13 | WizBomb | 15/2 Internet |
| 20:59.27 | WizBomb | compared to my 5mbit/384kbit |
| 20:59.59 | J4k3 | I'd want decent routing |
| 21:00.01 | J4k3 | something verizon lacks |
| 21:00.13 | ManxPower | marl: all phones I've seen do NOT answer. But I only use hardphones, because as you see, softphones suck. |
| 21:00.14 | WizBomb | ive read and heard that Verizon is better than RR |
| 21:00.15 | J4k3 | then again, whoever you get 5/384 from is prolly crappy too |
| 21:00.33 | J4k3 | at least they're not comcrap |
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| 21:00.37 | J4k3 | I'm craptastic! |
| 21:00.39 | WizBomb | true |
| 21:00.47 | WizBomb | u haev "Delay" packets on your network |
| 21:01.06 | J4k3 | if I had comcast, I'd be doing very evil things to my cable modem 24x7 |
| 21:01.10 | WizBomb | thanks to comcastic using that SandVine hardware |
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| 21:02.23 | CrossRoad | ManxPower: do you know if there is an alternate for BackGround application?.. now everything is working fine except BackGround application which plays the .wav file.. are not heard on the client side |
| 21:02.31 | marl | how would i get the dialplan to go to voicemail on everything other than answer? do i just put the voicemail command strait after the dial command with next priority? |
| 21:02.32 | WizBomb | i think I am in the slowest Road Runner area |
| 21:02.42 | WizBomb | darn Road Runner and ATT |
| 21:02.53 | WizBomb | they dont compete so they dont raise speeds |
| 21:02.57 | WizBomb | they just keep them the same |
| 21:02.59 | WizBomb | for years |
| 21:05.02 | ManxPower | I can't even get real broadband where I live. |
| 21:05.13 | ManxPower | so quit your whining. |
| 21:05.13 | WizBomb | that sux |
| 21:05.24 | WizBomb | where ya live |
| 21:06.04 | WizBomb | are u using Verizon EDVO |
| 21:06.36 | J4k3 | vzw evdo is far from being broadband |
| 21:06.41 | J4k3 | its broadband with a 15 second idle timeout |
| 21:06.48 | J4k3 | and 28.8k-modem like latency |
| 21:07.11 | WizBomb | its better than nothing though |
| 21:07.14 | WizBomb | atleast for DL speed |
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| 21:07.22 | J4k3 | sometimes |
| 21:07.42 | J4k3 | I need to get an antenna adapter for my phone to something I can actually connect to (rp-tnc? N?) |
| 21:08.02 | J4k3 | I've got some 8 dBi yagis here rated from like 800 to 960 |
| 21:08.18 | J4k3 | but out at my friend's house I can barely get text messages much less make the 0-1 bars of evdo move faster than a modem |
| 21:08.42 | J4k3 | its better off on 1xRTT once its much below -95 dBm |
| 21:08.58 | WizBomb | 1x is very slow |
| 21:09.14 | J4k3 | 1x plenty fast enough for most mobile tasks |
| 21:09.40 | WizBomb | I have a Sprint AirCard from work |
| 21:09.45 | WizBomb | i hate working in a 1x network |
| 21:09.48 | J4k3 | hell, I regularly get forced to ssh over 14.4k-over-cdma dialup due to being in alltel turf |
| 21:09.49 | WizBomb | when i have too |
| 21:09.53 | J4k3 | sprint never got 1xRTT right |
| 21:09.56 | J4k3 | their settings are odd |
| 21:10.05 | J4k3 | verizon hasn't gotten evdo right, sprint most definetly has |
| 21:10.07 | WizBomb | now sprint EDVO is actually faster |
| 21:10.13 | fujin_ | heh. |
| 21:10.17 | J4k3 | vzw is doing ghetto-do |
| 21:10.18 | fujin_ | It's all shit compared to HSUPA/HSDPA. |
| 21:10.21 | fujin_ | <3 Vodafone NZ. |
| 21:10.31 | J4k3 | fujin_: actually its about onpar with umts. |
| 21:10.38 | WizBomb | i heard that 4G Vodafone and Verizon will use same technology |
| 21:10.41 | J4k3 | which isn't saying much, but at least it kinda works when foliage is involved |
| 21:10.44 | J4k3 | I can't say the same for wimax. |
| 21:10.58 | J4k3 | WizBomb: yeah, I suspect vzw is going to abandon evdo for umts. |
| 21:10.59 | fujin_ | wimax generally implies LOS though |
| 21:11.04 | fujin_ | umts>* |
| 21:11.08 | Sweeper | errr |
| 21:11.08 | J4k3 | fujin_: yeah, which isn't realistic |
| 21:11.15 | Sweeper | wimax totally does not imly LOS |
| 21:11.21 | fujin_ | totally does |
| 21:11.25 | WizBomb | it would be good if they did that |
| 21:11.31 | Sweeper | well, I'm using it on a modem indoors |
| 21:11.35 | J4k3 | Sweeper: depends completely on the spectrum used. |
| 21:11.35 | WizBomb | so VZ users could Roam in Voda's network |
| 21:11.37 | Sweeper | totally no LOS |
| 21:11.57 | Sweeper | J4k3: therefore, it does not imply LOS |
| 21:11.59 | J4k3 | Sweeper: most of the wimax gear on the market right now is in the mmds (2.6-ish) or 3.5 ghz bands, which gets pwned by foliage or walls |
| 21:12.14 | Sweeper | J4k3: yea, that's what 900 mhz is for :) |
| 21:12.18 | J4k3 | Sweeper: ok, wifi works through walls too... welcome to pounding signal through |
| 21:12.33 | J4k3 | of course, I can't see really wanting any at this point |
| 21:12.46 | WizBomb | i dont know if Wimax is gonna be a 3G killer |
| 21:12.46 | Sweeper | wimax in high freq range is dumb tho |
| 21:12.58 | Sweeper | like, uh, we have this "wifi" stuff |
| 21:12.59 | J4k3 | wimax = sprint ion all over again |
| 21:13.06 | Sweeper | works at 2.4 and 5.8.... |
| 21:13.10 | WizBomb | Sprint is gonna go bankrupt |
| 21:13.11 | J4k3 | remember when sprint bought like 18 months of breezecom's production line |
| 21:13.16 | J4k3 | and decided they were gonna grow up to be a wisp |
| 21:13.25 | J4k3 | and deployed all this craptastic fhss gear on their cell towers |
| 21:13.32 | J4k3 | just to shut it down about a year later? |
| 21:13.52 | J4k3 | they did it in the houston area... had friends attempt to get on it and fail miserably. |
| 21:15.23 | WizBomb | lol |
| 21:15.28 | WizBomb | anyone heard of Sprint ION |
| 21:16.14 | WizBomb | that was another Sprint Failure |
| 21:16.19 | J4k3 | Sprint is a failure |
| 21:16.30 | J4k3 | at least in southeast texas |
| 21:16.38 | J4k3 | if you never leave 6+ lane highways, you're alright |
| 21:16.55 | WizBomb | never understood why they sold their land line unit |
| 21:17.00 | WizBomb | ATT has their wired unit |
| 21:17.04 | WizBomb | Verizon has their wired unit |
| 21:17.08 | WizBomb | Sprint doesnt |
| 21:17.18 | J4k3 | sprint never had much for last mile that I knew of |
| 21:17.23 | J4k3 | some crappy towns |
| 21:17.29 | WizBomb | i see Embarq buying Sprint |
| 21:17.30 | WizBomb | LOL |
| 21:17.40 | J4k3 | embarq is just a re-name |
| 21:17.54 | WizBomb | but sprint doesnt own them |
| 21:18.33 | WizBomb | also rumor that Comcrap would buy Sprint |
| 21:19.23 | WizBomb | as Comcrap cant get much bigger |
| 21:19.27 | J4k3 | heh, comcrap will go out of business sooner than later with their current company policies |
| 21:19.30 | WizBomb | as they are limited by FCC |
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| 21:19.50 | J4k3 | comcast is in a 100% competitive business now |
| 21:19.51 | WizBomb | so they have to buy cell company to grow next |
| 21:19.54 | J4k3 | and totally don't act like it |
| 21:20.28 | J4k3 | pretty much every inch they cover, some telco covers with adsl |
| 21:20.43 | J4k3 | and now telcos are in the TV game, and IMHO satellite is the only way to fly for TV. |
| 21:20.47 | WizBomb | Cablevision is getting hit hard by Verizon Fios |
| 21:21.00 | J4k3 | when I had cable.... there could be a wreck halfway across the city and the fucking TV would go out |
| 21:21.13 | J4k3 | you realize how much household access there is to fios? |
| 21:21.21 | J4k3 | like 0.0003% or somesuch |
| 21:21.34 | J4k3 | their coverage area is miniscule and the model doesn't work in anywhere but the most populated areas |
| 21:22.10 | J4k3 | and in reality most cablecos are most of the way built out in the fios-like model. most cablecos have fiber-to-the-neighborhood and often fiber-to-your-block |
| 21:22.17 | J4k3 | all they have to do is fiber up your last mile and its done |
| 21:22.24 | J4k3 | so verizon isn't like breaking way ahead |
| 21:22.31 | J4k3 | what kills cable is shitty business plan |
| 21:22.32 | WizBomb | one problem though |
| 21:22.45 | WizBomb | verizon doesnt have to have big equitment out like cable companies do |
| 21:22.52 | J4k3 | sure they do |
| 21:23.06 | WizBomb | fiber can go soo far |
| 21:23.14 | WizBomb | that you can go to Central CO's |
| 21:23.29 | J4k3 | yeah, but once you get soooo far out the houses start having more and more property each |
| 21:23.31 | WizBomb | without that much equitment in between |
| 21:23.41 | ManxPower | Should this work? Noop(${IF(($[${LEN(${ARG1})} != 0]?Remaining routes are ${ARG1}:No remaining routes)}) |
| 21:23.44 | J4k3 | therefore you've gotta bury a thousand foot of fiber for each potential customer, and that business model simply doesn't work |
| 21:23.50 | WizBomb | cable companies have to have soo many cable nodes |
| 21:23.56 | J4k3 | but I say in those markets the whole landline concept needs to die for everything except electricity |
| 21:24.14 | J4k3 | yes, but they have *so* many more cable nodes, which means they have preexisting easements |
| 21:24.24 | J4k3 | they can potentially build a much better network than verizon easier. |
| 21:24.31 | J4k3 | "Will they do it" is the real question |
| 21:24.32 | WizBomb | true |
| 21:24.38 | WizBomb | if they deploy 3.0 |
| 21:24.49 | riddlebox | what would cause asterisk to ring one extra time after the person I called answers? |
| 21:25.02 | J4k3 | heh, most cable plants are docsis 1 still |
| 21:25.05 | ManxPower | nevermind, I had an extra ( |
| 21:25.14 | J4k3 | I've got a friend mere inches outside pittsburg, pa |
| 21:25.19 | WizBomb | riddle, i get that as well sometimes |
| 21:25.22 | WizBomb | havent figured it out yet |
| 21:25.22 | J4k3 | he's on docsis 1, and his cable node is always maxed out |
| 21:25.44 | WizBomb | J4k3: his cable node needs to be "split" |
| 21:25.44 | ManxPower | riddlebox: running two Dial()s in a row would do it. |
| 21:25.47 | J4k3 | I need to get out of here, gonna go help a friend fix his clogged drain vents |
| 21:25.53 | J4k3 | his house randomly filled up with septic gas last night |
| 21:25.56 | J4k3 | :| |
| 21:26.03 | WizBomb | ewww |
| 21:26.06 | J4k3 | yeah |
| 21:26.09 | J4k3 | I'ma take a gas mask |
| 21:26.12 | J4k3 | :D |
| 21:26.18 | WizBomb | dont lite a match |
| 21:26.21 | WizBomb | ;) |
| 21:26.23 | J4k3 | haha yeah |
| 21:26.27 | WizBomb | no smoking |
| 21:26.42 | WizBomb | no static electric clothing |
| 21:26.59 | WizBomb | sorry if i was freakin ya out |
| 21:27.02 | WizBomb | LOL |
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| 21:28.02 | WizBomb | awww a fellow NC buddy |
| 21:28.20 | WizBomb | close to raleigh i think |
| 21:29.42 | WizBomb | yep |
| 21:29.58 | WizBomb | 5 hops from me all in the Raleigh area |
| 21:30.04 | WizBomb | crappy RR routing |
| 21:30.31 | slima | WaitExten() is no longer exist? |
| 21:31.29 | riddlebox | ManxPower, http://pastebin.ca/752984 |
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| 21:33.29 | ManxPower | slima: First I've heard of it. |
| 21:33.44 | ManxPower | riddlebox: what verison of Asterisk? |
| 21:34.01 | riddlebox | 1.4.13 |
| 21:34.26 | riddlebox | ManxPower, it has been doing that for a while now on different versions |
| 21:34.30 | ManxPower | Priority jumping (n + 101) was deprecated in 1.2 and removed in 1.4. Don't you read the upgrade notes? |
| 21:35.06 | riddlebox | I thought I did, but I guess I didnt realize I was using it |
| 21:36.28 | ManxPower | Dial now sets the variables DIALSTATUS and HANGUPCAUSE instead of using +101 |
| 21:36.53 | ManxPower | since +101 can only handle one result. the new way allows you to handle many different results of a dial |
| 21:37.20 | riddlebox | hrmm got some reading to do then |
| 21:37.58 | ManxPower | look at macro-stdexten in extensions.conf.sample |
| 21:38.23 | ManxPower | while you are at it, look at all the sample configs that you might use. Also do a "show applications" and "show functions" and get the new edition of ATFOT |
| 21:38.26 | ManxPower | ~book |
| 21:38.27 | jbot | Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf |
| 21:39.29 | Greek-Boy | what is the best fax solution for asterisk? asterfax? |
| 21:39.43 | ManxPower | Greek-Boy: the one you build yourself. |
| 21:42.29 | ManxPower | [TK]D-Fender, Corydon76-dig: would this work? exten => 666,1,${IF($[${FOO} = 1])?Playback(tt-monkeys):Noop)} |
| 21:43.52 | riddlebox | ManxPower, I think I need to redo my configs all together, its been so long, I will just clean them up and update them and see if the problem stays |
| 21:47.06 | fujin_ | AELLLLL |
| 21:47.17 | Sweeper | http://www.flickr.com/photos/16856085@N07/sets/72157602769178464/ <-- SPAM TIME |
| 21:47.38 | wwalker | There were only 9 levels of Hell before AEELLLLLLL..... |
| 21:50.24 | tzafrir | eal? |
| 21:50.32 | wwalker | Sweeper: congrats! |
| 21:50.54 | Sweeper | thanks :D |
| 21:52.27 | Qwell | ManxPower: that's a good question |
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| 21:52.54 | Qwell | oh |
| 21:52.56 | Qwell | ManxPower: execif |
| 21:53.44 | ManxPower | Qwell: I assumed that was the #exec stuff. Thanks! |
| 21:54.47 | ManxPower | -= 280 extensions (1163 priorities) in 28 contexts. =- |
| 21:54.58 | ManxPower | that's the dialplan on one of my larger systems. |
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| 22:00.31 | fujin_ | -= 295 extensions (617 priorities) in 49 contexts. =- |
| 22:00.38 | fujin_ | callcentre |
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| 22:19.20 | riddlebox | ManxPower, do you recomend to use the autofallthrough feature then? |
| 22:20.05 | fujin_ | wwalker: and now theere's just one level; trying to convice people to use it |
| 22:20.38 | viator | hello im using skpe as my home telephone now about 70 us for unlimited in and out calling would / could you guys recommend somthing else |
| 22:21.07 | fujin_ | lol |
| 22:21.28 | fujin_ | something else ;) |
| 22:21.33 | viator | i was wondering about setting up some kind of gateway or somthing to use the analog phones |
| 22:23.24 | viator | well what could i do to get a nice voip setup for home |
| 22:23.30 | ManxPower | viator: if it works for you keep it. Asterisk is a large complex system requiring the phone system administrator to be well versed in several tech areas like Linux, Networking, NAT, Routing, Telecom, SIP, and Asterisk itself. |
| 22:23.57 | ManxPower | think of building an Asterisk system like building a distro. It ain't easy. |
| 22:24.16 | fujin_ | requires a little bit of brain, moreso than your average skype user anyway |
| 22:24.21 | remmo | monaing |
| 22:25.17 | viator | isnt there a live cd |
| 22:25.17 | fujin_ | ha, yeah, a live cd |
| 22:25.17 | fujin_ | not supported here |
| 22:25.18 | fujin_ | try trixbox, or asterisknow |
| 22:25.23 | fujin_ | both are relatively live iirc |
| 22:25.47 | viator | heh |
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| 22:28.17 | ManxPower | the GUIs just allow you to get away without knowing Asterisk config files. It does not help you in any of the other areas |
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| 22:30.44 | WizBomb | the gui doesnt half work very well |
| 22:30.45 | WizBomb | lol |
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| 22:33.10 | fujin_ | He left |
| 22:33.12 | fujin_ | I expected as much |
| 22:33.32 | fujin_ | I find lots of people believe asterisk will be easy |
| 22:33.39 | fujin_ | heh, have had to fix lots of trixbox/aah setups |
| 22:33.40 | ManxPower | http://www.fnords.org/~eric/macro-dial-result-v2.inc |
| 22:35.43 | JackEStorm | ManxPower: the only thing about Asterisk that makes it complex is the lack of sane clocking from Digium |
| 22:35.56 | fujin_ | sif |
| 22:36.06 | fujin_ | apt-get install zaptel && modprobe ztdummy && echo 1 |
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| 22:36.11 | fujin_ | sane clocking game over |
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| 22:36.33 | ManxPower | I sometimes forget that people run Asterisk servers without any cards. |
| 22:36.46 | fujin_ | I do, here |
| 22:36.49 | fujin_ | 100% sip |
| 22:36.58 | fujin_ | I let other devices worry about E1's and timing, pleh. |
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| 22:37.31 | JackEStorm | fujin_: really? my tdm400p does not always keep sync with my pri |
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| 22:38.27 | fujin_ | mrhgph |
| 22:38.29 | fujin_ | using a tdm400p |
| 22:38.33 | fujin_ | is just asking for bad trouble |
| 22:38.50 | fujin_ | I've got a cisco as5400 here, which while it was a dog to configure initially, has been perfect so far |
| 22:39.00 | fujin_ | apart from it obviously not doing active-call failover between the dual E1's |
| 22:39.12 | fujin_ | I don't even want to think about that yet |
| 22:39.48 | JackEStorm | as5400 would be nice here, and I could get that up and going in no time...but, got a tightwad on the wallet |
| 22:40.19 | fujin_ | It's pretty nice. We've got 2hour onsite replacement, it's pretty redundant |
| 22:40.23 | ManxPower | Too bad. Telecom requires money. |
| 22:41.13 | JackEStorm | ManxPower: no shit, I know that, one other knows that, but what ya gonna do.... |
| 22:41.56 | fujin_ | ~cheap |
| 22:41.56 | jbot | from memory, cheap is a bad idea. If you're setting up an Asterisk system, one of the wisest pieces of advice you can take is this: DON'T BE A CHEAPSKATE. |
| 22:42.02 | fujin_ | ^^. |
| 22:42.11 | JackEStorm | I just wish I could clock the analog lines off the pri |
| 22:42.53 | wwalker | fujin_: so any links convincing me to use AEL instead of an external controller written in a regular programming language for anything remotely complex? |
| 22:43.11 | WizBomb | you could run a home asterisk server like me on a Laptop |
| 22:43.12 | WizBomb | LOL |
| 22:43.12 | fujin_ | use it or die? |
| 22:43.39 | fujin_ | wwalker: how about it can do remotely complex without another regular programming language |
| 22:43.48 | fujin_ | and is nearly word for word similar to PHP |
| 22:44.15 | ManxPower | wwalker: AEL in 1.2 is broken. Make sure you use 1.4 if you use AEL (AEL2) |
| 22:44.18 | fujin_ | so, a) less requirements, b) native functionality, same abstraction layer |
| 22:44.27 | fujin_ | yeah, I wouldn't bother with ael in 1.2 |
| 22:44.30 | fujin_ | it was less happy. |
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| 22:45.44 | tzafrir | WizBomb, sure you can |
| 22:46.27 | tzafrir | though some of you may note tzafrir_laptop has not been here for quite some time |
| 22:46.38 | marmsu | does anyone know if it's possible to use the "_X." extension to match something like "training_1193611397.36"? |
| 22:47.03 | fujin_ | probbaly |
| 22:47.06 | fujin_ | but why would someone dial that |
| 22:47.12 | fujin_ | you should beat them up for dialing stuff stupidly |
| 22:47.37 | marmsu | haha :) actually, it's a dynamically-created extension called in by another system, not a human |
| 22:47.40 | ManxPower | marmsu: X is any digit, so it would not match. |
| 22:47.53 | marmsu | ManxPower: i see, it's not working for me and that might explain it. |
| 22:48.15 | marmsu | I thought that "N" was a digit |
| 22:48.20 | ManxPower | you could use something like exten => _training_X.,1,Whatever |
| 22:48.45 | ManxPower | X = 0-9, N=2-9, Z=1-9 |
| 22:48.55 | fujin_ | wee. |
| 22:49.27 | marmsu | true. are there any wildcards which match any character? |
| 22:50.11 | marmsu | actually, _. would probably do it. |
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| 22:50.22 | ManxPower | I believe . will, but using _. is a very bad thing to do. |
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| 22:51.54 | marmsu | is that because of the risk of recursive dialplans? |
| 22:52.09 | ManxPower | marmsu: something like that. |
| 22:52.29 | marmsu | I see .. I just discovered that the hard way ;) |
| 22:52.49 | marmsu | I wish better documentation existed for this aspect of the dial plan |
| 22:53.09 | krdian_ | hello |
| 22:54.35 | krdian_ | anybody using digium d/300pci-e1 card ? |
| 22:56.05 | krdian_ | sorry, dialogic ... |
| 22:56.08 | JackEStorm | ManxPower: you forgot P and A |
| 22:57.01 | pabs3 | anyone know the syntax of the Grandstream GXP2000 daylight-savings field in the admin? |
| 22:57.29 | JackEStorm | ManxPower: and X can be A-Z as well |
| 22:58.56 | ManxPower | JackEStorm: Oh? |
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| 22:59.09 | _x86_ | re |
| 22:59.32 | JackEStorm | ManxPower: in the US, yes |
| 23:00.26 | JackEStorm | ManxPower: my grandmothers phone number starts with LX |
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| 23:10.55 | adam1 | I do I create a dialing pattern in Asterisk? |
| 23:12.44 | JT | ? |
| 23:12.52 | JT | read question before hitting entre |
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| 23:14.15 | tzafrir | It seems everybody mast have typos |
| 23:14.37 | adam1 | errr |
| 23:14.46 | Strom_C | catsex |
| 23:14.54 | adam1 | How do I create a dialing plan for Asterisk? |
| 23:15.23 | adam1 | I have my sip phones registered with no where to call. |
| 23:19.28 | _x86_ | adam1: check voip-info.org for extensions.conf |
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| 23:51.40 | dlynes | adam1: with a text editor |
| 23:52.19 | dlynes | adam1: there's plenty of examples on simple dial plans on both voip-info.org and astrecipes.net |
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