| 00:02.58 | *** part/#asterisk cirgal (n=robert@pool-71-102-137-33.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 00:05.38 | tzafrir_home | CCFL_Man2, that could be it |
| 00:05.58 | *** join/#asterisk [TK]D-Fender (n=Joe@64.235.216.2) |
| 00:06.03 | tzafrir_home | CCFL_Man2, there should be backports of zaptel 1.4 in pkg-voip's buildserver, if you're lasy |
| 00:06.14 | tzafrir_home | I think that a sparc builder is included there |
| 00:06.35 | tzafrir_home | http://buildserver.net/ |
| 00:08.07 | CCFL_Man2 | hmm.. yeah |
| 00:08.29 | CCFL_Man2 | udevinfo: command not found |
| 00:09.01 | CCFL_Man2 | you apparently know about that bug, where anyway to fix it? |
| 00:09.02 | Star568 | anybody here knows howcome there is no ring tone while waitting for the call get answered. i tried to use manager to bridge two SIP calls. anybody knows why? |
| 00:09.08 | tzafrir_home | http://pkg-voip.buildserver.net/debian/pool/main/z/zaptel/ . Hmmm... I don't see Etch sparc builds |
| 00:09.13 | tzafrir_home | strange |
| 00:09.29 | CCFL_Man2 | there are no etch sparc versions yet |
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| 00:09.48 | tzafrir_home | the latest one was: http://pkg-voip.buildserver.net/debian/pool/main/z/zaptel/zaptel_1.4.4~dfsg-2~etch.3851_sparc.deb |
| 00:09.57 | tzafrir_home | and the same of that version |
| 00:10.20 | CCFL_Man2 | hmm.. ok |
| 00:10.34 | CCFL_Man2 | i'll give that a try |
| 00:12.22 | CCFL_Man2 | sarge seems to use zaptel 1.2, etch seems to use 1.4 |
| 00:12.53 | CCFL_Man2 | but that buold bug, it looks for udevinfo on sarge but the command isn't found, there anyway to fix that? |
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| 00:18.39 | etfonhomey_ | Has anyone here setup * with a Dynamic T1 connection to the PSTN? |
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| 00:20.44 | CCFL_Man2 | tzafrir_home: i can't build 1.4 |
| 00:20.52 | CCFL_Man2 | udevinfo: command not found |
| 00:21.05 | tzafrir_home | What version is it? |
| 00:21.11 | JunK-Y | CCFL_Man2: install udev? |
| 00:21.14 | [TK]D-Fender | etfonhomey_, Zaptel doesn't do "dynamic"..... channels are fixed, you should know that... |
| 00:21.26 | tzafrir_home | make DYNFS=yes |
| 00:21.42 | *** part/#asterisk BSD_Tech (n=BSDTech@adsl-69-234-202-145.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 00:21.59 | tzafrir_home | yeah, and install udev, if you have 2.6.8: apt-get install udev |
| 00:22.09 | CCFL_Man2 | ahh, ok |
| 00:22.09 | tzafrir_home | better than devfs anyway |
| 00:22.22 | tzafrir_home | but the above is also a workaround |
| 00:22.32 | etfonhomey_ | [TK]D-Fender, I've only used fixed POTS channels with zaptel. So, never looked at the T1 setup. |
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| 00:24.18 | [TK]D-Fender | etfonhomey_, For what you described earlier, the layout would look like 1 - 7 B, 8-23 Data, 24 D |
| 00:24.20 | etfonhomey_ | Anyone here seen a dynamic T1 setup? How do they hand off the voice? |
| 00:24.32 | [LiFE] | hi, I just got a SPA400 and want to hook it up to my asterisk box, I can make outboud calls fine, but when I get calls in, it just gets a very short unavailable tone, and then disconnects |
| 00:24.40 | [TK]D-Fender | etfonhomey_, Again, there isn't anything "dynamic about it. |
| 00:24.42 | [LiFE] | anyone have experience with the SPA400? |
| 00:26.07 | CCFL_Man2 | udev requires a kernel >= 2.6.15, not started. |
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| 00:28.13 | etfonhomey_ | [TK]D-Fender, are we talking about the same thing? |
| 00:28.44 | [TK]D-Fender | etfonhomey_, About that split pri/data thing from earlier, no? |
| 00:28.52 | rodent|S | blackhat_2007_audio_torrent |
| 00:28.54 | rodent|S | http://www.stonedcoder.org/tt/details.php?info_hash=da957418bff04c17aa1e357979084665643ef7e0 |
| 00:28.58 | rodent|S | download, and seed. bitchez. |
| 00:29.00 | rodent|S | enjoy. |
| 00:29.17 | etfonhomey_ | [TK]D-Fender, in the dynamic T1, when no voice calls are in progress, the whole T1 is used for data. |
| 00:29.39 | Qwell | rodent|S: please don't be spamming that here |
| 00:29.40 | [TK]D-Fender | etfonhomey_, * can't do that to my understanding... |
| 00:29.50 | rodent|S | Qwell: spam ? i think not. but thanks for the input. |
| 00:30.20 | CCFL_Man2 | dammit i can't get this right! |
| 00:31.40 | CCFL_Man2 | i knew this would fight me all the way |
| 00:31.48 | CCFL_Man2 | compiling again |
| 00:32.48 | etfonhomey_ | [TK]D-Fender, I'm curious how the voice is handed of in a dyn t. |
| 00:33.32 | [TK]D-Fender | etfonhomey_, setup & teardown would be arranged by the dchan I'm sure |
| 00:34.18 | etfonhomey_ | [TK]D-Fender, it's not over a channelled T1. At least that's how it was explained to me. |
| 00:34.21 | [TK]D-Fender | etfonhomey_, So a call comes in, d-chan requests a B chan to carry and one is sequentially knoccked off the start. On hangup it passes back to data] |
| 00:34.37 | [TK]D-Fender | etfonhomey_, Indeed not channelized, it'd be PRI |
| 00:35.41 | [TK]D-Fender | etfonhomey_, There are VPRI's as well where they just carry BW to your door and fractionalize the stream with a T1 loop LOCAL to your box. |
| 00:35.45 | CCFL_Man2 | etfonhomey_: you might have to use a cisco router to provide voice to the asterisk box and data over youe network |
| 00:35.53 | [TK]D-Fender | etfonhomey_, Transparently throttled. |
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| 00:36.38 | etfonhomey_ | [TK]D-Fender, i imagine that would be provide as by the provider of the dyn t. |
| 00:37.24 | RipeR81 | hello everyone. im a newbie on asterisk and i was wondering if any of you guys with experience can suggest a linux distro that works better with asterisk ? |
| 00:37.42 | [TK]D-Fender | RipeR81, just about any will do once you've install its dependencies |
| 00:37.57 | [TK]D-Fender | RipeR81, Basically whichever you are most comfortable administering. |
| 00:38.20 | RipeR81 | [[TK]D-Fender] thanks for the info... im just waiting for the server to come from customs... |
| 00:38.24 | [TK]D-Fender | RipeR81, Debian, FC, RHEL, CentOS, Slackware, etc.... |
| 00:39.11 | RipeR81 | [[TK]D-Fender] thanks ... |
| 00:39.11 | [TK]D-Fender | RipeR81, Plenty of people running it on Ubuntu even. |
| 00:39.38 | RipeR81 | ubuntu really ? well... ubuntu has being becoming very popular |
| 00:39.54 | RipeR81 | maybe bcuz of his policies of mailing free cds worldwide |
| 00:40.09 | tzafrir_home | A nice desktop. Still has a way to go to become a solid server |
| 00:40.57 | tzafrir_home | Also in ubuntu you should be careful about stuff that is in universe, and hence not officially as well-supported as the rest |
| 00:41.44 | [TK]D-Fender | tzafrir_home, I largely concur. I like something using traditional inits, etc myself. Straight Debian or RHEL would make me more comfortable for sure |
| 00:41.46 | RipeR81 | [tzafrir_home] thank. |
| 00:41.58 | LukinoVoip | debian |
| 00:42.12 | LukinoVoip | :-) |
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| 00:42.46 | RipeR81 | i see everyone is into debian here.. hahaha |
| 00:42.50 | RypPn | anyone have asterisk running successfully on sparc? |
| 00:42.56 | tzafrir_home | CCFL_Man2, what's up? |
| 00:43.06 | RypPn | I seem to be suffering kernel oops with zttranscode |
| 00:43.12 | tzafrir_home | linux or Solaris? |
| 00:43.16 | RypPn | linux |
| 00:43.23 | tzafrir_home | ask CCFL_Man2 :-) |
| 00:43.33 | RipeR81 | to be certain... i've just used RHEL, suse and madriva... i remember i even tried corel linux when it first came out |
| 00:43.35 | zapp-branigan | hi, please who can i generare a md5 password ? |
| 00:43.42 | zapp-branigan | for asterisk |
| 00:44.05 | tzafrir_home | RypPn, a kernel oops is always bad. But do you actually need zttranscode? |
| 00:44.29 | tzafrir_home | RypPn, an oops or a panic? Do you happen to have the trace? |
| 00:44.34 | RypPn | tzafrir: only insofar as all sound is dead, internal calls, vmail etc |
| 00:45.16 | tzafrir_home | the system itself remained running? |
| 00:45.20 | RypPn | I can easily fire the box up again, its at my feet |
| 00:45.24 | RypPn | yes |
| 00:45.29 | CCFL_Man2 | tzafrir_home: same error again |
| 00:45.43 | CCFL_Man2 | ioctl(ZT_LOADZONE) failed: Invalid argument |
| 00:45.44 | CCFL_Man2 | line 233: Unable to register tone zone 'us' |
| 00:45.44 | CCFL_Man2 | ZT_DEFAULTZONE failed: Invalid argument (22) |
| 00:45.46 | tzafrir_home | do you have a long, ugly, trace in /var/log/kern.log (is this Debian?) |
| 00:46.08 | tzafrir_home | CCFL_Man2, what do you see in the kernel logs? |
| 00:46.09 | RypPn | no, its gentoo, I'll have a look for logs |
| 00:46.54 | tzafrir_home | RypPn, do you have any zaptel hardware, or just ztdummy? |
| 00:47.05 | CCFL_Man2 | http://rafb.net/p/seKA0x79.html |
| 00:47.06 | [LiFE] | anyone here with experience of SPA400 and Asterisk? |
| 00:47.13 | CCFL_Man2 | thats what i see |
| 00:47.13 | [LiFE] | can't seem to get it to work with inbound calls |
| 00:47.21 | RypPn | tzafrir: just using the ztdummy module for timing |
| 00:47.38 | [TK]D-Fender | [LiFE], go check out the forums at www.volxilla.com |
| 00:47.46 | [TK]D-Fender | www.voxilla.com *** |
| 00:47.52 | [LiFE] | I did... I see pple complaining about it, no fixes. :( |
| 00:48.03 | tzafrir_home | CCFL_Man2, hmm... are you sure yu're not mixing ztcfg from 1.2 with drivers from zaptel 1.4 or vice versa? |
| 00:48.29 | CCFL_Man2 | tzafrir_home: nope, i uninstalled everything and compiled 1.4 |
| 00:48.37 | CCFL_Man2 | well, i am sure |
| 00:49.03 | tzafrir_home | Just to be sure, run ./ztcfg (from the build directory) |
| 00:49.09 | CCFL_Man2 | ok |
| 00:49.11 | RypPn | tzafrir_home: http://rafb.net/p/LzeXzr51.html thats what dmesg shows |
| 00:49.32 | [TK]D-Fender | [LiFE], perhaps you should pastebin an inbound call attempt with SIP debug enabled so we have something to see and show us your sip.conf entry for it as well. |
| 00:49.33 | [LiFE] | [TK]D-Fender: I followed the guides from voxilla, I can make outbound calls, etc... but when inbound calls comes in, the spa400 picks it up, then hangs up |
| 00:49.35 | [TK]D-Fender | ~pb |
| 00:49.36 | jbot | A Pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste |
| 00:49.36 | [TK]D-Fender | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ |
| 00:49.44 | CCFL_Man2 | tzafrir_home: same error |
| 00:49.49 | [LiFE] | asterisk -rvvvvvvvvvv ?? |
| 00:50.12 | [LiFE] | or just do a sip debug? |
| 00:50.16 | [TK]D-Fender | [LiFE], could be the SPA's configured quite wrong at source and its not even trying. Could also be taht your * config is screwed up so you just going to have to show us everything |
| 00:50.30 | [TK]D-Fender | [LiFE], in * CLI : sip debug |
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| 00:50.54 | tzafrir_home | RypPn, well, an invalid ioctl. But no real issue |
| 00:50.55 | [LiFE] | yah, it could be the SPA400, coz I did a debug today, didn't even show anything coming in |
| 00:51.09 | [LiFE] | it's like the call just hang up on the SPA400 and it never did anything |
| 00:51.27 | tzafrir_home | RypPn, can you give a more complete description of what you ran before the oops? |
| 00:51.42 | [TK]D-Fender | [LiFE], then I suggest you host up some screenshots of its config. |
| 00:51.46 | tzafrir_home | Is that now after a reboot? |
| 00:51.55 | [LiFE] | doing a upgrade of firmware to 1.0.0.c |
| 00:51.58 | CCFL_Man2 | ioctl32(ztcfg:15412): Unknown cmd fd(4) cmd(80704a19){00} arg(efffb958) on /dev/zap/ctl |
| 00:52.01 | CCFL_Man2 | ioctl32(ztcfg:15412): Unknown cmd fd(4) cmd(80704a19){00} arg(efffb958) on /dev/zap/cioctl32(ztcfg:15412): Unknown cmd fd(3) cmd(80044a18){00} arg(000282f0) on /dev/zap/ctl |
| 00:52.26 | [LiFE] | will do a pastebin on the sip debug, then do a paste of the screenshot... u know where I can put those pics? |
| 00:53.18 | CCFL_Man2 | tzafrir_home: now i'm not using any zaptel hardware at all, just ztdummy |
| 00:54.33 | CCFL_Man2 | so do i need to worry about ztcfg or no? |
| 00:55.19 | tzafrir_home | you use 2.6.8 now? |
| 00:55.29 | [TK]D-Fender | [LiFE], I recall a place called "photobucket" or something. And there's always flickr. |
| 00:55.45 | CCFL_Man2 | tzafrir_home: yes, 2.6.8 |
| 00:55.56 | tzafrir_home | ok. Let's make sure that the current modules are loaded |
| 00:56.04 | tzafrir_home | rmmod ztdummy zaptel |
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| 00:56.13 | tzafrir_home | insmod ./zaptel.ko |
| 00:56.19 | CCFL_Man2 | ok |
| 00:56.20 | tzafrir_home | ./ztcfg |
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| 00:56.24 | *** mode/#asterisk [+o russellb] by ChanServ |
| 00:57.18 | CCFL_Man2 | Zapata Telephony Interface Registered on major 196 |
| 00:57.18 | CCFL_Man2 | Zapata Telephony Interface Registered on major 19Zaptel Version: 1.4.5.1 |
| 00:57.18 | CCFL_Man2 | Zaptel Echo Canceller: MG2 |
| 00:57.45 | CCFL_Man2 | same error |
| 00:58.48 | tzafrir_home | CCFL_Man2, and are you sure that there's nothing in the kernel logs? Just "invalid ioctl"? |
| 00:59.07 | CCFL_Man2 | 4 unknowm command errors |
| 00:59.23 | CCFL_Man2 | right, just ioctl32(ztcfg:15427): Unknown cmd fd(3) cmd(40a04a39){00} arg(effff8a8) on /dev/zap/ctl |
| 00:59.29 | CCFL_Man2 | and 3 more |
| 01:01.14 | tzafrir_home | Are those new ones? |
| 01:02.49 | tzafrir_home | well, anyway, if you just have ztdummy, you don't need ztcfg. So let's not waste any more time on this one |
| 01:03.05 | tzafrir_home | (no channel to configure) |
| 01:03.09 | RypPn | tzafrir_home: It looks like I gutted asterisk from it. I'll take some time out to rebuild it now. With any luck the problems will just disappear *cough* |
| 01:03.33 | tzafrir_home | RypPn, you can disable codec_zaptel |
| 01:04.12 | tzafrir_home | No use for you if you don't have a zaptel transcoder card. Still there may be endiannes issues or whatever there |
| 01:04.16 | [LiFE] | [TK]D-Fender: http://www.pastebin.ca/677457 |
| 01:04.45 | CCFL_Man2 | tzafrir_home: right, they are the ones in the build directory |
| 01:05.01 | CCFL_Man2 | all i'm using is ztdummy, no tdmoe or hardware |
| 01:05.05 | tzafrir_home | CCFL_Man2, or just remove the "loadzone" and "defaultzone" lines from zaptel.conf |
| 01:05.25 | CCFL_Man2 | tzafrir_home: those aren't needed if i just use ztdummy? |
| 01:05.34 | tzafrir_home | no |
| 01:05.43 | tzafrir_home | You have no channel to configure |
| 01:06.23 | CCFL_Man2 | maybe thats why i'm getting the errors? |
| 01:07.58 | [TK]D-Fender | L# |
| 01:07.58 | [TK]D-Fender | ooking for spa400 in from-trunk (domain 192.168.1.200) |
| 01:07.58 | [TK]D-Fender | # |
| 01:07.58 | [TK]D-Fender | Reliably Transmitting (NAT) to 192.168.1.201:5060: |
| 01:07.58 | [TK]D-Fender | # |
| 01:07.59 | [TK]D-Fender | SIP/2.0 484 Address Incomplete |
| 01:08.19 | [LiFE] | eh? |
| 01:08.20 | [TK]D-Fender | [LiFE], bad dialplan it seems |
| 01:09.24 | CCFL_Man2 | tzafrir_home: there a way to test that everything is working correctly, maybr zttest or ztmonitor? |
| 01:10.00 | [LiFE] | dial plan? |
| 01:10.02 | [LiFE] | it's incoming |
| 01:10.07 | [LiFE] | not outbound |
| 01:10.09 | tzafrir_home | you just need ztdummy for timing, right? so zttest |
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| 01:10.25 | CCFL_Man2 | tzafrir_home: right |
| 01:10.26 | tzafrir_home | hmm, well also mixing meetme |
| 01:10.27 | CCFL_Man2 | ok |
| 01:11.22 | CCFL_Man2 | zttest reports Unable to open zap interface: No such device or address |
| 01:11.40 | CCFL_Man2 | that normal too? |
| 01:13.41 | [LiFE] | hmm? |
| 01:15.53 | tzafrir_home | modprobe ztdummy |
| 01:16.38 | JT | [LiFE]: so? incoming and outcoming have a dialplan |
| 01:17.05 | [LiFE] | ? |
| 01:17.29 | [LiFE] | sorry, I keep assuming dial plan = dialing patterns, could you elaborate? |
| 01:18.59 | JT | extensions.conf |
| 01:19.24 | JT | etfonhomey_: umm, those "dynamic T1s" probably aren't doing voice in a T1 way at all |
| 01:19.31 | JT | probably SIP over T1 |
| 01:19.47 | JT | you lose capacity due to protocol overhead |
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| 01:20.40 | [TK]D-Fender | [LiFE], dialplan = extensions.conf |
| 01:21.03 | harryr | "dynamic T1"... |
| 01:21.04 | rvhi | hi, i have checkmwi=10 in sip.conf, it means that it sends out mwi every 10 seconds to the phones, really annoying |
| 01:21.05 | etfonhomey_ | JT, Are you in Australia? If so, do they offer them there? |
| 01:21.09 | rvhi | is that right? |
| 01:21.12 | CCFL_Man2 | tzafrir_home: silly me, here i thought it was loaded |
| 01:21.13 | harryr | there is no such thing as a dynamic T1 - it's either a T1 or it's not |
| 01:21.47 | [TK]D-Fender | harryr, dynamic between voice/data SPREAD across it. |
| 01:22.05 | [TK]D-Fender | harryr, AKA need more B-chans? reduce datat chans |
| 01:22.11 | harryr | ah fair enough |
| 01:22.16 | CCFL_Man2 | tzafrir_home: ok, well i think that works, i get an average of 99.97%, i suppose thats pretty accurate timing? |
| 01:22.24 | etfonhomey_ | http://www.dslreports.com/nsearch?q=%22dynamic+t1%22 |
| 01:22.46 | harryr | it's just I've heard sales people trying to sell "dynamic T1s" that are just sdsl connections capped at 1.5mbit |
| 01:23.12 | tzafrir_home | yes |
| 01:23.39 | [LiFE] | exten => SPA400,n,Goto (from-did-direct, 311, 1) |
| 01:24.52 | RypPn | tzafrir_home: here's an example log of what I'm talking about, when I dial *65 I hear nothing. http://rafb.net/p/DRyUAo83.html |
| 01:26.40 | tzafrir_home | RypPn, what are the results from zttest ? |
| 01:26.42 | RypPn | I think I know what it is... let me test |
| 01:26.53 | CCFL_Man2 | tzafrir_home: so i guess the next step is configuring asterisk :P |
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| 01:28.04 | tzafrir_home | CCFL_Man2, BTW: have you actually tried using asterisk from packages? |
| 01:28.09 | tzafrir_home | as a baseline |
| 01:29.00 | RypPn | tzafrir_home: how many passes would you like? It never drops below 99.98 |
| 01:33.58 | CCFL_Man2 | tzafrir_home: actually no, but i installed asterisk and supporting packages that it installed |
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| 01:34.54 | CCFL_Man2 | never configured it yet |
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| 01:35.34 | shadowtech | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:35.50 | CCFL_Man2 | shadowtech: wtf? |
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| 01:38.02 | CCFL_Man2 | tzafrir_home: what i wanted was to interface asterisk to my channel bank via ip with a cisco voice concentrator |
| 01:38.05 | CCFL_Man2 | mc3810 |
| 01:39.45 | JT | etfonhomey_: yes, and no |
| 01:40.29 | JT | harryr: for what it's worth, most T1s and E1s are delivered over SHDSL these days |
| 01:40.48 | [LiFE] | i give up, redoing an installation, this time without freepbx |
| 01:41.19 | CCFL_Man2 | JT: HSDL in the US i think |
| 01:41.35 | JT | hsdl? |
| 01:41.45 | CCFL_Man2 | HDSL, rather |
| 01:41.53 | JT | anyway, same difference |
| 01:41.56 | JT | over dsl |
| 01:42.02 | CCFL_Man2 | right |
| 01:42.46 | CCFL_Man2 | with adsl in the US, ATM is sent over it |
| 01:43.09 | [TK]D-Fender | JT : many quite possibly. Look for CBR in the data spec if youwan to see that you're getting a "real" T1 |
| 01:43.09 | etfonhomey_ | JT, here's Nuvox's version of a Dynamic T1: http://www.nuvox.com/ResourceCenter/Products/voxip_email_011707.pdf |
| 01:43.12 | JT | yes atm and adsl are good buddies |
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| 01:43.59 | JT | [TK]D-Fender: usually there's no problem with it being delivered over shdsl, because T1s can't go very far in their ntive format |
| 01:45.26 | hmmhesays | ok, there was some bug in fedora where I had to copy some config file somewhere to make the zaptel script start ztdummy |
| 01:45.47 | JT | etfonhomey_: no-one bothers with "dynamic T1s" in australia |
| 01:45.52 | JT | stopgap for stingey businesses |
| 01:46.14 | etfonhomey_ | No stingy businesses in Australia? |
| 01:46.31 | JT | our E1 pricing structures are different |
| 01:46.39 | JT | and we also have BRI |
| 01:46.47 | JT | and a much wider variety of DSL choice |
| 01:47.55 | JT | no telcos offer this SIP over E1 bs as far as i'm aware |
| 01:48.57 | etfonhomey_ | JT, What do you mean by "SIP over E1"? |
| 01:49.15 | JT | in the US "dynamic T1s" are usually SIP over T1 |
| 01:49.36 | JT | run voip over the T1 to dynamically change the amount of bandwidth available for data |
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| 01:50.41 | etfonhomey_ | JT, do you have any links explaining that? I can't find anything explaining the technical side of a dynamic T1. |
| 01:50.58 | JT | it's simple you terminate it to a voip capable router |
| 01:51.48 | etfonhomey_ | And then how does the router hand the customer voice and data? |
| 01:51.55 | etfonhomey_ | separately? |
| 01:52.18 | CCFL_Man2 | etfonhomey_: use a router and have the data on the ethernet and the voice on a CAS T1 or over voip |
| 01:52.33 | CCFL_Man2 | a cisco router |
| 01:52.41 | etfonhomey_ | Do you know a particular model? |
| 01:52.43 | JT | etfonhomey_: they don't, it's all one big data pipe. |
| 01:52.57 | JT | there is nothing CAS or PRI about it usually |
| 01:53.21 | etfonhomey_ | So, then how could you hook up the voice part of it to your PBX? |
| 01:53.43 | JT | the router either gives you ethernet or T1 handoff |
| 01:53.56 | CCFL_Man2 | etfonhomey_: mc3810 is a good modem, but for voip it needs a new prom, 64mb ram, updated ios, the MFT T1 card for the data/voice trunk and DVM-T1 card if you want voice over a CAS T1 |
| 01:54.02 | JT | or FXS, worst case :P |
| 01:54.14 | CCFL_Man2 | err modem = router |
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| 01:54.35 | CCFL_Man2 | but the MC3810 is EOL |
| 01:55.31 | CCFL_Man2 | modern routers can do it |
| 01:55.37 | CCFL_Man2 | modern cisco routers |
| 01:55.44 | etfonhomey_ | JT or CCFL_Man2: So, if you're getting the T1 handoff, then a dynamic T1 should work with *? |
| 01:55.54 | JT | i guess so |
| 01:56.17 | etfonhomey_ | CCFL_Man2? |
| 01:56.24 | CCFL_Man2 | i see no reason why not, but you won't have access to data |
| 01:56.31 | etfonhomey_ | ? |
| 01:56.39 | CCFL_Man2 | if you just have the T1 going into asterisk |
| 01:56.43 | JT | data goes out a seperate interface |
| 01:56.54 | CCFL_Man2 | you won't have access to data |
| 01:56.54 | JT | asterisk doesn't need the data |
| 01:57.08 | JT | that's for the Internet side of things |
| 01:57.19 | CCFL_Man2 | can that be configured in zaptel? |
| 01:57.21 | russellb | you can set up part of the T1 for data in linux |
| 01:57.41 | JT | depending how the router hands off the T1 |
| 01:57.42 | russellb | setting it up is even covered in free installation support |
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| 01:57.45 | russellb | (from digium i mean) |
| 01:57.54 | russellb | true .. |
| 01:58.00 | JT | the router might have an ethernet port just for dat |
| 01:58.02 | JT | a |
| 01:58.07 | JT | which would make far more sense |
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| 01:58.14 | etfonhomey_ | That's what I am hoping. |
| 01:58.25 | hmmhesays | heh, the zaptel script does not start ztdummy on fc7 |
| 01:58.29 | etfonhomey_ | I haven't found anyone in here who has a Dynamic T1. |
| 01:58.29 | CCFL_Man2 | but if he has a T1 router already, why not just use it to seperate voice and data |
| 01:58.31 | domger | Hi, Is possible to have multiples trunks between a Asterisk and a Softswith? |
| 01:58.52 | hmmhesays | it exits after -f /etc/zaptel.conf |
| 01:59.04 | JT | etfonhomey_: if you come here at the right times, there are followers of the dynamic t1 religion |
| 01:59.09 | JT | but i think it's arse |
| 01:59.12 | etfonhomey_ | CCFL_Man2, the office in question will be a new install. |
| 01:59.49 | etfonhomey_ | JT, my situation is a satellite office, that currently has 6 POTS lines and dual DSL. |
| 01:59.49 | JT | domger: if you're talking about VoIP, there are no trunks |
| 02:00.57 | domger | JT: in my ITSP softswitch they says trunk... |
| 02:01.11 | JT | well it's incorrectly named |
| 02:01.53 | CCFL_Man2 | JT: voice and data T1s are cheap |
| 02:02.27 | hmmhesays | that is just strange |
| 02:02.33 | JT | CCFL_Man2: it's still arse :) |
| 02:02.35 | hmmhesays | zaptel didn't install zaptel.conf |
| 02:02.45 | CCFL_Man2 | etfonhomey_: a newer cisco router can seperate voice and data and send it to asterisk over voip |
| 02:03.02 | CCFL_Man2 | JT: i know, but it vworks :P |
| 02:03.05 | CCFL_Man2 | works |
| 02:03.13 | JT | so? |
| 02:04.25 | domger | JT: in Asterisk world, how do you call a SIP connection without user? |
| 02:04.46 | JT | domger: in the world in general, not just asterisk, SIP has no trunks |
| 02:04.52 | JT | it sets up connections on demand |
| 02:05.16 | etfonhomey_ | CCFL_Man2, got any references for dynamic T1's? I'd like to read a little more about the technical side of things. |
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| 02:06.11 | CCFL_Man2 | etfonhomey_: honestly no, but i'd suggest searching cisco for docs on the subject |
| 02:06.37 | etfonhomey_ | domger, JT may be trying to say that trunk implies both incoming/outgoing calls going over the same "pipe". With SIP, you're outgoing and incoming calls are different channels. |
| 02:06.51 | etfonhomey_ | CCFL_Man2, Is dynamic T1 the right terminology? |
| 02:07.33 | JT | etfonhomey_: no, a trunk is a pipe that handles a certain amount of voice calls |
| 02:07.37 | JT | SIP does not do this |
| 02:07.47 | etfonhomey_ | Gotcha. |
| 02:08.26 | JT | lots of morons are using terms like "sip trunking" but in reality, sip doesn't have anywhere near the level of reliablity to be called a trunk |
| 02:08.30 | etfonhomey_ | Generally, when people say SIP trunk, they're talking about their SIP connection to their ITSP. |
| 02:08.30 | JT | it has no circuit |
| 02:08.34 | JT | no guarantee |
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| 02:11.15 | VJFROMGT | inbound calls work fine but outbound disco after about 15 seconds |
| 02:11.17 | VJFROMGT | http://pastebin.ca/677489 |
| 02:11.31 | VJFROMGT | even outbound extension to extenson |
| 02:14.04 | domger | BTW, my problem is that my ITSP is providing me 2 "connections" from the same softswitch. One is associate with a number from city A and the other with a number from city B. Both cities have different local calling area... So I want to "choose" my outgooing "connection" to fool his softswith and save long distance call... Since both connection are connected on the same Asterisk, my ITSP identify all my calls like calls coming from "connec |
| 02:14.58 | JT | domger: avoid runon sentences, the ircd cuts them off |
| 02:15.31 | VJFROMGT | i have no idea what domger is saying but it sounds liek he is using the wrong isp for what he needs |
| 02:16.05 | RypPn | are there any management interfaces anyone would recommend? |
| 02:16.13 | JT | no |
| 02:16.20 | RypPn | other than freepbx, vi, nano etc |
| 02:16.22 | JT | well, vi |
| 02:16.27 | RypPn | ;) |
| 02:17.11 | coppice | leave management alone, and just try to live a good clean life apart from them |
| 02:18.18 | RypPn | I think it was freepbx that killed the audio on my sparc, it may not have recognised any feature access codes before, but at least it told me so |
| 02:19.00 | RypPn | time to roll the sleeves up I guess |
| 02:28.30 | CCFL_Man2 | JT: is pots a trunk? |
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| 02:29.17 | CCFL_Man2 | i'd say sip, rtp, and the combination of that and the ip link and the physical links, i'd call it a trunk |
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| 02:31.23 | coppice | VoIP trunks? I thought VoIP was based on hatchbacks and station wagons |
| 02:32.14 | joat | coppice: if you try hard enough, you can get them up on the roof racks |
| 02:33.08 | JT | CCFL_Man2: you can say what you like, doesn't make it true. |
| 02:33.39 | CCFL_Man2 | so there is no such think as a sip trunk? |
| 02:34.50 | JT | correct. |
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| 02:35.22 | De_Mon | I've never really though of a 'trunk' referring to any sort of reliability. what do you perfer to call them instead jt? |
| 02:35.26 | coppice | many telephony people only consider something a trunk when it bundles calls. there is a provisional spec for putting multiple calls in an RTP packet, to reduce the awful overheads, and its termed RTP trunking |
| 02:36.31 | JT | De_Mon: calls, connections, whatever |
| 02:36.38 | JT | sip just randomly sets up calls over ip |
| 02:36.41 | JT | hardly a trunk |
| 02:37.23 | De_Mon | its the medium the calls and connections go 'through' though |
| 02:37.52 | CCFL_Man2 | De_Mon's definition seems more correct |
| 02:38.00 | JT | CCFL_Man2: blah blah |
| 02:38.05 | CCFL_Man2 | hehe |
| 02:38.10 | JT | you're in no place to judge |
| 02:38.27 | CCFL_Man2 | yeah, i'm new to telephony |
| 02:38.46 | De_Mon | opinions are like assholes, most of them stink |
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| 02:39.52 | coppice | there is no real definition of trunk, unlike its in a cabin on a cruise ship, or an elephant is attached to it |
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| 02:40.04 | CCFL_Man2 | if you get your nose in there deep enough all of them smell, atleast girls anyway |
| 02:40.08 | CCFL_Man2 | err.. |
| 02:40.19 | CCFL_Man2 | :P |
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| 02:42.36 | coppice | well all know VoIP calls are carried in a more generic form of trunk, called a tube |
| 02:44.41 | Qwell | De_Mon: nice |
| 02:47.02 | coppice | De_Mon: opinions are more like farts. only other people's really stink badly |
| 02:47.21 | CCFL_Man2 | ahahahah! |
| 02:47.31 | CCFL_Man2 | i like that one |
| 02:47.33 | De_Mon | even better! |
| 02:48.06 | De_Mon | fantastic 4: silver surfer really sucked. not even worth renting how sad |
| 02:48.08 | JT | De_Mon: so why should sip be considered trunking? |
| 02:49.55 | De_Mon | A trunk is a line or link designed to handle many signals simultaneously.. a sip trunking provider typically |
| 02:50.37 | JT | do you understand how sip works? |
| 02:50.40 | Qwell | coppice: and for the record - I think it was based on the fastbacks and notchbacks :p |
| 02:50.42 | De_Mon | for me, it speaks to the volume which doesn't seem to be as true in the telephony world |
| 02:51.12 | JT | that made no sense |
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| 02:54.41 | coppice | Qwell: I think it was based on something from GM, because nobody seemed to give a damn about the enormous overheads |
| 02:55.02 | De_Mon | yes, but its like looking at a drawing and saying its just a bunch of lines, some people see lines, others see a picture |
| 02:55.32 | JT | De_Mon: no idea what you're going on about |
| 02:56.17 | coppice | "Some people can read War and Peace and see nothing more than an adventure story" - I was trying to prepare my 10 year old to read War and Peace last week, and found myself quoting Lex Luther from Superman II :-) |
| 02:56.47 | De_Mon | youre looking at 'sip trunking' and seeing lots of individual connections and I see a trunk |
| 02:57.00 | JT | De_Mon: you imagine things |
| 02:57.05 | JT | there is no dedicated circuit |
| 02:57.51 | coppice | too right. there's no bloody dedication at all amongst the jonny come lately internet providers |
| 02:58.49 | JT | heh |
| 02:59.53 | [LiFE] | anyone here knows whether we must have CID enabled in order to use SPA400 |
| 03:00.34 | De_Mon | [LiFE] were you looking for a yes/no question? |
| 03:00.37 | De_Mon | err answer |
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| 03:01.57 | [LiFE] | yap! |
| 03:02.25 | De_Mon | in that case the answer is most definately yes |
| 03:02.59 | CCFL_Man2 | strange how you must use CID for an ATA to work |
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| 03:04.32 | De_Mon | whoever said there is no such thing as a stupid question hasn't sat on irc long enough |
| 03:07.09 | CCFL_Man2 | personally i don't like atas |
| 03:07.28 | CCFL_Man2 | i prefer a channel bank |
| 03:08.09 | CCFL_Man2 | anyone here use an adit 600? |
| 03:08.49 | JT | sip gateways make a bunch of sense at a number of channels for quite a few applications |
| 03:09.53 | CCFL_Man2 | honestly, the only ata i've used was a linkshit PAP2, maybe thats why i don't like them |
| 03:10.51 | [LiFE] | nevermind, found the answer |
| 03:11.10 | [LiFE] | evil thing requires the device name in DID inbound route |
| 03:11.17 | [LiFE] | which is crazy, I tot ANY covers ANY |
| 03:11.25 | [LiFE] | and apparrently not |
| 03:11.43 | JT | tot? |
| 03:12.26 | [LiFE] | hought |
| 03:12.35 | [LiFE] | ehh.. 1 finger typing.. lzy |
| 03:13.38 | CCFL_Man2 | i tot i taw a puddy cat |
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| 03:14.51 | JT | i guess he expects us to magicall understand [LiFE] english |
| 03:16.28 | CCFL_Man2 | so no one uses the adit 600? |
| 03:16.42 | CCFL_Man2 | i need the camual and they won't give it to me |
| 03:19.19 | CCFL_Man2 | fuckers |
| 03:22.14 | harryr | camual? |
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| 03:26.03 | CCFL_Man2 | manual |
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| 05:02.52 | nclx | Is there a way to make an extension global among contexts? For example I have extension 7170. This dials a SIP phone. I have my extensions.conf broken into many contexts for managability, but I would like that if you dial '7170' from any context you will ring the SIP phone. Must I define it in each context, or is there a way to make it global? |
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| 05:06.42 | russellb | you can define a context called [global_extens] or something and then include it in all of the others |
| 05:06.49 | russellb | then just add extens there that you want available toa ll |
| 05:06.59 | nclx | aha thanks that is simple and awesome |
| 05:07.18 | russellb | you're welcome |
| 05:07.23 | _x86_ | heh |
| 05:07.39 | _x86_ | nclx: that's standard dialplan logic man :) |
| 05:07.51 | nclx | I'm new to this game |
| 05:07.55 | _x86_ | ah cool |
| 05:07.56 | russellb | ooh, it's a game? |
| 05:07.59 | russellb | am i winning? |
| 05:08.02 | _x86_ | welcome to the circus ;) |
| 05:08.04 | nclx | yeah probably you are |
| 05:08.10 | russellb | awesome |
| 05:08.14 | _x86_ | nclx: home use or business? |
| 05:08.19 | nclx | business |
| 05:08.25 | _x86_ | what kind of hardware? |
| 05:09.19 | russellb | very hard hardware |
| 05:09.25 | nclx | AMD64 4600+ Dual Core, 4GB RAM, 300GB SATA, Ubuntu-Linux Server, TDM400 PCI card |
| 05:09.37 | russellb | nice |
| 05:10.03 | russellb | that's quite a powerful box for a TDM400 :) i assume you have a lot of VoIP usage, too? |
| 05:10.03 | nclx | Snom 320 && Budgetone SIP clients, broadvoice business line |
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| 05:10.17 | nclx | yes, the card is only for the timing |
| 05:10.22 | russellb | i see .. |
| 05:11.11 | nclx | I was having a ton of problems with getting audio to play okay when calling from PSTN or VoIP and getting tons of errors in my syslog about timing and the kernel missing interrupts etc. |
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| 05:11.43 | nclx | so I got the TDM card because I thought I might have had a BIOS issue on this motherboard after trying many different kernel compilation options with RTC and MPET stuff |
| 05:12.08 | nclx | turns out though...... rearranging my PCI cards and removing one non-used winmodem seemed to solve the issue |
| 05:12.13 | nclx | what a pain that was |
| 05:12.45 | russellb | ouch |
| 05:12.48 | russellb | stupid hardware |
| 05:12.53 | nclx | yeah no kidding |
| 05:13.13 | nclx | you think to yourself, well linux isn't even configuring the device how could that be the problem |
| 05:13.24 | nclx | but I had a similar issue last week |
| 05:13.46 | nclx | I was upgrading ram on a box to 2gb from 256mb, and I kept getting no video and bios beeping no matter what combination I did |
| 05:13.54 | nclx | I even put it back the orig way still no luck |
| 05:14.06 | nclx | finally I unplugged this cheap HP mouse I brought to test the box with |
| 05:14.11 | nclx | and it worked fine with the new mem |
| 05:14.17 | nclx | blew my mind |
| 05:14.46 | nclx | I feel like having an office space moment in a field with this mouse and winmodem |
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| 05:16.22 | CCFL_Man2 | yes! my openwrt usb router outputs my mp3 collection on one usb audio stick and my favorite internet radio station on another |
| 05:16.35 | JoelSolanki | i want to download zaptel from cvs. |
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| 05:16.47 | JoelSolanki | but cvs.digium.com is unavailable. |
| 05:16.53 | JoelSolanki | is this right link ? |
| 05:18.56 | JerJer | svn |
| 05:19.34 | russellb | svn co http://svn.digium.com/svn/zaptel/branches/1.4 zaptel-1.4 |
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| 05:27.10 | nclx | I can honestly say I haven't played with anything as fun as asterisk in a long time |
| 05:29.14 | Echinos | I just installed it, and spend 30 minutes going thru the sample gsm files |
| 05:29.21 | Echinos | very fun |
| 05:29.29 | Qwell | Echinos: There are extra sounds too |
| 05:29.38 | Echinos | those were the ones I meant |
| 05:29.38 | Qwell | tons more |
| 05:29.41 | Qwell | oh |
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| 05:29.49 | Echinos | I couldn't spend 30 minutes on the base ones |
| 05:29.53 | Echinos | ;) |
| 05:30.01 | Qwell | That'd be pretty tedious. |
| 05:30.06 | russellb | and boring |
| 05:30.12 | Qwell | I'm sure most of the devs have done it though ;p |
| 05:30.14 | Echinos | I was looking for the comedic ones, and the ones dealing with telemarketer torture ;) |
| 05:30.14 | russellb | extras has some good ones |
| 05:30.16 | JoelSolanki | rseelb: thanks |
| 05:30.18 | JoelSolanki | got it. |
| 05:30.23 | russellb | you're welcome |
| 05:30.29 | Echinos | I like jedi-extension-trick |
| 05:30.46 | Echinos | "This is not the extension you are looking for...." |
| 05:30.48 | Qwell | Echinos: there are a few that were too good (or bad?) to put in there... |
| 05:30.57 | Echinos | Awww |
| 05:32.16 | Echinos | I listened to a defcon presentation from Strom Carlson & Black ratchet on Asterisk (a couple years old) and one of them mentioned how someone tested the limits of Alison Smith |
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| 05:32.27 | Echinos | sending her progressively nastier stuff to say |
| 05:32.32 | Qwell | There are a few words that she won't say. |
| 05:32.40 | Qwell | I know of one in particular |
| 05:32.51 | Echinos | Why, have you asked for it? ;) |
| 05:33.04 | Qwell | no, just heard it a bunch of times |
| 05:33.08 | Echinos | Ah |
| 05:33.14 | codefreeze | Echinos: Have ya seen my telemarketer torture stuff? |
| 05:33.15 | Echinos | but not from her, apparently ;) |
| 05:33.21 | Qwell | right, heh |
| 05:33.25 | Echinos | um, maybe ;) |
| 05:33.34 | Echinos | that's one of the things I want to do |
| 05:33.39 | Echinos | send me a link? |
| 05:34.12 | Qwell | Echinos: where'd you hear this presentation? |
| 05:34.25 | codefreeze | Echinos: voip-info |
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| 05:34.34 | Echinos | I'm a relative noob with *, I installed it a few years ago to play, but never went anywhere |
| 05:34.43 | Echinos | umm... defcon archives, sec.... |
| 05:35.04 | Echinos | https://www.defcon.org/html/links/defcon-media-archives.html |
| 05:35.10 | Echinos | search the page for asterisk |
| 05:35.23 | Echinos | theres mp3/mp4/pdf i think |
| 05:35.35 | Echinos | but the sound isn't too good, there's some sort of interference |
| 05:35.36 | Qwell | mp4...video? |
| 05:35.39 | Echinos | ya |
| 05:35.50 | Echinos | they have a speed dialing competition for swag ;) |
| 05:36.07 | Qwell | speed dialing a phone number? |
| 05:36.20 | Echinos | codefreeze: where's your telemarketer stuff? |
| 05:36.22 | Qwell | rotary, dtmf, or box? ;) |
| 05:36.29 | Echinos | codefreeze: sorry, missed ^^ |
| 05:36.33 | Echinos | heh |
| 05:36.51 | Echinos | dtmf, but they said they'd have done hook-tapping if they could |
| 05:36.53 | Echinos | brb |
| 05:42.01 | _x86_ | hooker-tapping is fun ;) |
| 05:44.13 | Echinos | umm... I'll take your word for it |
| 05:44.49 | Echinos | so, I'm thinking of getting an unlimitel account |
| 05:44.54 | Echinos | (I'm in Canadia) |
| 05:45.16 | Echinos | wanna see how/if I can save some $$, make a sweet system |
| 05:45.25 | Echinos | etc. |
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| 05:47.54 | Echinos | codefreeze: is yours the one that mentions "bad dialplan design"? |
| 05:48.04 | codefreeze | bingo |
| 05:48.22 | codefreeze | only the best for telemarketers.... |
| 05:48.29 | codefreeze | the best of the worst |
| 05:49.43 | Echinos | hehe |
| 05:50.11 | Echinos | My other idea was to make a recording that would sound like someone actually answered, and to record it and play back later for fun |
| 05:50.37 | Echinos | put in the odd "hmmm" and "go on..." |
| 05:50.54 | Echinos | just to keep them talking, kinda like a tarpit for telemarketers |
| 05:51.14 | Echinos | maybe throw in some farm animal noises etc. |
| 05:52.03 | russellb | it's quite fun to make people call each other |
| 05:52.07 | Echinos | codefreeze: did you record all the sounds for that? |
| 05:52.21 | Echinos | russellb: how do you mean, exactly? |
| 05:52.30 | Echinos | Make telemarketers call each other? |
| 05:52.35 | russellb | sure :) |
| 05:52.37 | russellb | or 2 friends ... |
| 05:53.15 | russellb | it's quite easy. I usually make a script that takes 2 phone numbers and generates 2 call files. each call file originates a call to one number with the callerid of the other number, and connects them both to a MeetMe |
| 05:53.33 | russellb | then I connect listenonly into the meetme, and usually record it, too, in case it's funny. |
| 05:53.45 | Echinos | wow |
| 05:53.49 | Echinos | genius |
| 05:54.04 | Echinos | too bad most telemarketer numbers are no-incoming |
| 05:54.37 | Qwell | russellb: ever tried 3 at once? |
| 05:54.47 | russellb | Qwell: yeah. i did about 20 at once in a class |
| 05:54.48 | Qwell | that'd be confusing |
| 05:54.51 | Qwell | haha |
| 05:54.52 | Echinos | are you talking about hooker-tapping again? |
| 05:54.56 | Echinos | ;) |
| 05:55.01 | russellb | i collected the cell phone numbers of everyone in class, and had them all ring at once |
| 05:55.04 | Qwell | nice |
| 05:55.08 | russellb | and the callerid on all the phones was the teacher's |
| 05:55.09 | Echinos | sweet! |
| 05:55.45 | Echinos | do a huge conference for all of them |
| 05:56.03 | Echinos | did you let on that you did it? |
| 05:56.13 | russellb | yeah, it was part of a presentation |
| 05:56.19 | Echinos | Ah, ok |
| 05:56.28 | Qwell | did you tell them beforehand? |
| 05:56.34 | russellb | nope |
| 05:56.43 | russellb | well, asked for the numbers |
| 05:57.09 | russellb | it failed miserably the first time ... the server i had set up to do it ran out of disk space the morning of ... :( |
| 05:57.15 | russellb | so i didn't know it was down until i tried to do it |
| 05:57.20 | codefreeze | Echinos: yep, Hmmm. lessee. http://www.parsetree.com/TeleTorturePrompts.tar.gz |
| 05:57.30 | Echinos | so, besides getting a low-cost voip provider, and a FWD number, what other sensible things are there to do with asterisk? |
| 05:57.44 | Echinos | codefreeze: Really? wow |
| 05:57.51 | Echinos | *yoink* |
| 05:58.24 | Echinos | tyvm |
| 05:58.31 | russellb | Echinos: set it up as extremely overkill voicemail? |
| 05:58.50 | Echinos | Well, yeah, that's been mentioned ;) |
| 05:58.54 | russellb | ok ok ... um. |
| 05:59.01 | Echinos | brb |
| 05:59.08 | russellb | set up all the phones in your house as agents in a queue |
| 05:59.17 | codefreeze | Echinos: The End of Telemarketing calls / Charity Seekers. Haven't had but maybe 3 or so over last 3 years. |
| 05:59.43 | russellb | and have the queue use the random strategy ... |
| 05:59.48 | russellb | you never know which one is going to ring!! |
| 06:00.03 | codefreeze | lol, the wife'd just LOVE that! |
| 06:00.17 | russellb | ooh, it's in the bedroom, run! |
| 06:00.35 | denon | hmm, any aussies awake? trying to find out if this Telstra Next-G stuff is any good |
| 06:01.24 | codefreeze | Sounds like the phone up in the attic is ringing, better run! |
| 06:01.41 | russellb | with a ringtimeout of 5 seconds |
| 06:01.48 | denon | supposed to be faster than EVDO |
| 06:01.51 | russellb | you'll be all over the house trying to get the call :) |
| 06:01.52 | denon | though I'm skeptical of the latencies |
| 06:02.33 | russellb | g'night all |
| 06:03.17 | codefreeze | denon: my latencies are so low, I can say something in one extension, and just hear the last half of it after racing to the other extension at the other end of the house! |
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| 06:03.52 | denon | hehe |
| 06:04.19 | denon | not quite what I meant |
| 06:04.22 | denon | where's JT anyway |
| 06:07.22 | Chunkz | I got a really newbish question... I haven't touched * in months and years. I was wondering if AsteriskNOW will be just as up to date as the core Asterisk system? Is there any real reason to not use *NOW if I'm happy with a UI? |
| 06:10.38 | JoelSolanki | hi. |
| 06:10.52 | JoelSolanki | i want to compile new cvs zaptel |
| 06:10.56 | JoelSolanki | http://svn.digium.com/view/zaptel?view=rev&revision=2986 |
| 06:11.11 | nclx | well I would think that if there are newer options in the development branch of 1.4 they might not be exposed in the *NOW UI, but that doesn't mean you can't drop a command line and asterisk -r and fire away |
| 06:11.19 | JoelSolanki | i downloaded zaptel-base.c and zaptel.c and kept in /usr/src/zaptel |
| 06:11.33 | JoelSolanki | and started compiling but it is giving me error |
| 06:11.35 | nclx | of course *NOW is probably not distributed with the most bleeding edge development release of *] |
| 06:11.55 | nclx | did you download all of zaptel or just those files |
| 06:11.58 | nclx | ? |
| 06:12.05 | JoelSolanki | just those 2 files |
| 06:12.11 | JoelSolanki | is that ok ? |
| 06:12.12 | nclx | download the whole directory |
| 06:12.30 | Echinos | Telephone scavenger hunt |
| 06:12.32 | nclx | no it is not that is why it failed, you just download it and run 'make', 'make install' |
| 06:12.36 | Echinos | sounds fun |
| 06:13.25 | JoelSolanki | nclx: i m having sangoma t1 card so i m going wanpipe directory and giving command ./Setup Install |
| 06:13.38 | JoelSolanki | which will update and compile the new zaptel |
| 06:13.47 | JoelSolanki | let me find the cvs |
| 06:15.21 | Echinos | I'm thinking of getting a cell plan that lets me call home for cheap, and then route thru * for $$ savings |
| 06:15.54 | JoelSolanki | nclx: how do i download the whole directory of CVS ? |
| 06:15.58 | JerJer | Echinos: find a friendly DID provider and add that DID to your 'fav-5s' or any of the other variants |
| 06:16.00 | JoelSolanki | i m not familiar with CVS or SVN |
| 06:16.20 | Echinos | I'm on call for work (IT), so I was thinking of having a number to call for clients that I could check and call back for cheap |
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| 06:16.40 | nclx | How do I setup an invalid extension handler? |
| 06:16.46 | Echinos | JerJer: that's kinda what I mean |
| 06:17.03 | JerJer | word |
| 06:17.22 | JerJer | there are pretty kick ass GSM gateways now that talk SIP - which is your other option |
| 06:17.22 | Echinos | I dunno how much cheaper it would be, but it would be worth a try |
| 06:17.32 | JerJer | drop in a sim, configure the sip and rock on |
| 06:17.54 | Echinos | JerJer: so, your cell phone dials overGSM to SIP, and then voip? |
| 06:18.16 | JerJer | yeppers |
| 06:18.36 | Echinos | So then you can just make your cell route to your * box, or call any SIP # for cheapness? |
| 06:18.37 | JerJer | think ATA with a GSM radio |
| 06:18.43 | Echinos | neato |
| 06:18.54 | JerJer | instead of a fxs port |
| 06:18.56 | Echinos | do you have a canadian example? ;) |
| 06:19.20 | JerJer | i haven't tried any canadian providers |
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| 06:19.46 | JerJer | i've done mostly europe or africa craziness |
| 06:20.21 | JerJer | but I did get to play with one here at the bat cave (in the US) for a month, which was pretty fun |
| 06:20.45 | JerJer | i was hoping that unit would 'fall off the truck' but alas, it didn't |
| 06:21.10 | Echinos | I wonder if it would be good to have calls go to the * box and then have it sms me on cell, then I can call back |
| 06:21.24 | Echinos | Maybe I just need a pager ;) |
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| 06:26.36 | JoelSolanki | hey guys i want to download this zaptel from svn. how do i do this ? http://svn.digium.com/view/zaptel/branches/1.4/?pathrev=2986 |
| 06:27.04 | JoelSolanki | svn checkout http://svn.digium.com/svn/zaptel/branches/1.4/ zaptel ???? |
| 06:29.38 | JoelSolanki | any body plz ? |
| 06:31.25 | JT | ????????????????//// |
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| 06:35.12 | JoelSolanki | hey guys i want to download this zaptel from svn. how do i do this ? http://svn.digium.com/view/zaptel/branches/1.4/?pathrev=2986 |
| 06:35.17 | JoelSolanki | svn checkout http://svn.digium.com/svn/zaptel/branches/1.4/ zaptel ???? |
| 06:36.12 | JT | JoelSolanki: stop motherfucking repeating |
| 06:36.15 | JT | it's rude as all hell |
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| 06:39.19 | JoelSolanki | ok |
| 06:39.44 | JoelSolanki | thanks |
| 06:39.58 | JoelSolanki | <JT> |
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| 06:57.48 | Nuitari | Hi there, is there a way to make a patch from the branch in bug #6119 against the main source for 1.4.11? (or other nearby svn/trunk) |
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| 07:00.39 | neoalex | hi guys I have a question about CID manipulation, incoming not outgoing |
| 07:01.02 | neoalex | I have a provider that sends me caller ID in 9 digit form |
| 07:01.21 | Nuitari | 9 digit form? |
| 07:01.24 | neoalex | I want to add a 0 in front of that number before it gets dispayed on my phone |
| 07:01.32 | neoalex | yes 748123456 |
| 07:01.44 | Nuitari | which country are you in? |
| 07:01.45 | neoalex | and when I dial out I use 0748123546 |
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| 07:02.06 | neoalex | I'm in the US but that provider is in romania |
| 07:02.20 | neoalex | and I use it to call romanian phones and also get calls from romania |
| 07:02.31 | Nuitari | ok |
| 07:02.50 | neoalex | and instead of using the country code every time I dial romania I just make the difference with the 0 |
| 07:02.53 | Nuitari | well I never gave any though on doing it, but I'd like to know so that I can prepend a 9 automatically |
| 07:03.04 | neoalex | all romanian numbers have 0 at the begining while us numbers don't |
| 07:03.28 | neoalex | exactly, I wanna do the same thing with a 0 |
| 07:03.43 | neoalex | otherwise if I have a missed call on my phone I can't dial it directly |
| 07:03.47 | FlatFoot | Nuitari: It used to be SetCallerId(0${CALLERID}) |
| 07:04.01 | FlatFoot | in your dialplan in extensions.conf |
| 07:04.13 | neoalex | on the incoming extension |
| 07:04.15 | neoalex | right? |
| 07:04.18 | FlatFoot | yep |
| 07:04.33 | neoalex | priority 1 then 2 is the dial |
| 07:04.43 | neoalex | ok... le'me try |
| 07:04.56 | Nuitari | isn't setcallerid deprecated? |
| 07:05.22 | FlatFoot | not sure if it is , might now be Set(0${CALLERID}) |
| 07:05.45 | FlatFoot | SetVar has changed to Set , so it might be the same |
| 07:05.46 | Nuitari | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:06.08 | FlatFoot | i'm still using old versions |
| 07:06.25 | Nuitari | yeah I noticed, deprecated in 1.2, removed in 1.4 |
| 07:07.12 | Nuitari | so Set(CALLERID(num)=0${CALLERID(num)}) |
| 07:07.15 | Nuitari | I'll try that |
| 07:07.20 | FlatFoot | sounds good |
| 07:09.20 | Nuitari | that works |
| 07:10.55 | FlatFoot | nice |
| 07:11.26 | FlatFoot | i have to use that because my telco never sends the leading 0 |
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| 07:12.01 | Nuitari | here we still prepend a 9 for an outside line |
| 07:12.52 | FlatFoot | yep i use a nine to get outside then strip it to leave my * |
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| 07:13.10 | neoalex | youp that worked... thanks |
| 07:13.51 | FlatFoot | np |
| 07:16.49 | neoalex | cool... that's going to make life easier |
| 07:17.18 | neoalex | oh one more thing... can I have voicemail greetings in different languages? |
| 07:17.23 | Nuitari | it's nice to get a glimpse at upcoming polycom stuff in their firmware update info |
| 07:17.24 | FlatFoot | i'll go for that anytime , could do with an easy life |
| 07:18.03 | Nuitari | I know you can have different context for voicemail |
| 07:19.25 | neoalex | yeah but I want it going to the same mailbox |
| 07:19.42 | Nuitari | hum |
| 07:19.55 | Nuitari | you could write an outside script to move the files around on a regular basis |
| 07:20.02 | Nuitari | though there must be a less convulted way |
| 07:20.27 | neoalex | yeah... I'm not using the busy message for anything |
| 07:20.36 | neoalex | so I'll use as a greeting in the second language |
| 07:20.45 | Nuitari | that could work too |
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| 07:27.12 | neoalex | what's the temporary greeting, the mailbox setup tells me about it but I don't see it in the wiki |
| 07:27.40 | Nuitari | it overrides both of the other greetings |
| 07:27.55 | Nuitari | eg if someone goes on vacation or something |
| 07:29.09 | neoalex | ah ok |
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| 08:54.32 | JoelSolanki | hi all |
| 08:55.07 | JoelSolanki | i have installed asterisk 1.4 and installed asterisk gui but digital config (beta) is not working. |
| 08:55.13 | JoelSolanki | i m using sangoma t1 card. |
| 08:55.30 | JoelSolanki | it is not identifying the sangoma card with gui ? |
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| 09:27.13 | zapp-branigan | hi in a direct call iax2/user:password@ip there is any way to select the codec ? |
| 09:33.15 | zapp-branigan | and i can change the default codec in the asterisk ? |
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| 10:01.12 | TylerJGillies | what is asterisk in a nutshell, i'm brand new and all the technical information is kind of boggling |
| 10:01.23 | TylerJGillies | i've developed IVR applications before. is it like an IVR platform? |
| 10:12.29 | Blue_Ice | TylerJGillies: though question, asterisk is a pbx, with IVR, with conf call, with voicemail, with ... |
| 10:13.25 | TylerJGillies | so IVR is built in? |
| 10:13.42 | TylerJGillies | does it use standard VXML? |
| 10:14.05 | Blue_Ice | yeah, you have total control over the callflow, so you can use IVR routines in it |
| 10:14.58 | Blue_Ice | TylerJGillies: I believe so (according to http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+cmd+Vxml , never played around with voicexml myself) |
| 10:15.35 | TylerJGillies | i made custom IVR systems for all my friends with my voxeo developer account heh |
| 10:16.25 | Blue_Ice | in a nutshell: Asterisk is anything you ever wanted for VoIP :-) |
| 10:18.01 | TylerJGillies | awesome |
| 10:18.40 | TylerJGillies | im deploying a co-located server and i'm in the process of deciding what platforms i'm going to support |
| 10:19.36 | TylerJGillies | is it only for linux or for windows too? i was thinking of deploying a windows 2003 server because voxeo's prophecy platform runs that, but if i can get asterisk to do what i want i can save some money |
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| 10:20.17 | Blue_Ice | you could use it on windows with cygwin, but not really recommended |
| 10:23.10 | TylerJGillies | i'm not running cygwin on a devlopment server heh |
| 10:25.22 | Blue_Ice | TylerJGillies: that's why it's not recommended :-) |
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| 10:29.26 | JT | why would you run a phone system on windows? |
| 10:30.43 | JT | and vxml being standardised is highly debatable |
| 10:30.52 | Mavvie | JT: You should ask Cisco about that. |
| 10:31.05 | JT | heh |
| 10:32.37 | TylerJGillies | there is a standard people just choose not to be compatible |
| 10:32.57 | JT | uhuh |
| 10:33.11 | TylerJGillies | jt: voxeo's system is pretty good, and it runs on windows |
| 10:33.22 | JT | we don't care :) |
| 10:44.16 | TylerJGillies | ok |
| 10:44.36 | TylerJGillies | <JT> why would you run a phone system on windows? |
| 10:44.38 | TylerJGillies | you asked whyu |
| 10:44.43 | TylerJGillies | s/whyu/why/ |
| 10:45.16 | JT | not the pinacle of reliability |
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| 10:48.46 | konqi_ | I can't dial out via my Digium TE420. Can anybody help? |
| 10:48.54 | jsmith-away | konqi_: Sure, I'll try |
| 10:49.04 | jsmith | (and a good morning to everyone!) |
| 10:49.12 | konqi_ | good morning too |
| 10:49.36 | jsmith | konqi_: OK... let's see what's going on.... first, give me a "pri show span X", where X is the span number (1, 2, 3, or 4) |
| 10:50.13 | konqi_ | should i post that here? |
| 10:50.35 | konqi_ | or maybe pastebin somewhere... |
| 10:51.30 | konqi_ | jsmith: http://pastebin.com/m128f04d1 |
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| 10:53.09 | jsmith | konqi_: OK, good... both spans are up and active |
| 10:53.26 | jsmith | konqi_: OK, can you paste the line from your dialplan that actually does the Dial() |
| 10:53.41 | jsmith | konqi_: (and the output on the CLI when it tries to dial)? |
| 10:54.17 | konqi_ | mh i don't know which macro it uses to dial actually |
| 10:55.37 | jsmith | At the Asterisk CLI, type "core set verbose 3" |
| 10:55.46 | jsmith | Then dial, and see what pops up on the CLI |
| 10:55.51 | konqi_ | okay |
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| 10:56.44 | yannj_fr | hi all |
| 10:56.45 | yannj_fr | l |
| 10:56.54 | jsmith | Hello yannj_fr |
| 10:57.27 | yannj_fr | I am looking for a way to declare phones in district, and set the codec to use between district, any idea? |
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| 10:58.39 | konqi_ | i did "set verbose 3" with "core" it says "no such command 'core'" |
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| 10:59.46 | TylerJGillies | how do i call asterisk demo? its extention 1000 but what sip number do i call? |
| 11:00.15 | JunK-Y | jsmith: 7am on a saturday? Goto(bed) |
| 11:01.09 | konqi_ | jsmith: http://pastebin.com/md68da9a |
| 11:01.55 | jsmith | JunK-Y: Can't help it... I've been awake for two hours now |
| 11:03.12 | jsmith | konqi_: OK, you're dialing an international number, right? |
| 11:03.21 | konqi_ | right |
| 11:03.37 | jsmith | konqi_: OK, you may need to adjust the "pridialplan" settings in zapata.conf |
| 11:03.56 | jsmith | konqi_: As Asterisk is telling the remote swith that you're dialing a national number, and not an international number |
| 11:04.35 | konqi_ | so i'll set pridialplan to international? |
| 11:04.56 | jsmith | konqi_: Also look at the "internationalprefix" setting there... that tells Asterisk 'if the number starts with 00, it's an international number' |
| 11:05.07 | TylerJGillies | what softphones do you use with asterisk? |
| 11:05.28 | jsmith | konqi_: Yes, set it to international to test, but then set it back to national and play with 'localprefix','nationalprefix', and 'internationalprefix' |
| 11:05.54 | JT | we generally try and avoid softphones |
| 11:05.54 | jsmith | TylerJGillies: XLite, Twinkle, Idefisk/Zoiper, IAXPhone Pro |
| 11:06.14 | jsmith | TylerJGillies: I don't use any of them for production though, just for testing |
| 11:06.33 | TylerJGillies | how do you dial an extension? |
| 11:06.43 | JT | ~thebook |
| 11:06.43 | jbot | rumour has it, thebook is a book called Asterisk: The Future of Telephony which is found at http://www.asteriskdocs.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=11 |
| 11:06.58 | TylerJGillies | is it a free book? |
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| 11:08.06 | konqi_ | hmmm still says national number.... |
| 11:08.22 | tzafrir_home | TylerJGillies, CC NC |
| 11:08.30 | TylerJGillies | cc nc? |
| 11:09.09 | tzafrir_home | released under the Xreative Common atribution and no-commercial use |
| 11:09.34 | JT | Creative |
| 11:09.39 | tzafrir_home | so yes, you can freely download it |
| 11:09.48 | TylerJGillies | cool |
| 11:09.50 | TylerJGillies | thnx |
| 11:09.56 | tzafrir_home | Not (yet?) version 2, I guess |
| 11:10.04 | jsmith | TylerJGillies: The second edition will be out shortly (I'm one of the authors) |
| 11:10.15 | TylerJGillies | jsmith: awesome! |
| 11:10.29 | jsmith | tzafrir_home: I got my hard-copy version of the second edition on Thursday... PDF should be posted any day now |
| 11:11.14 | tzafrir_home | Can't wait :-) |
| 11:11.37 | jsmith | konqi_: You may have to restart Asterisk for those changes to take effect |
| 11:12.01 | jsmith | tzafrir_home: This should show how much better the second edition is: http://upload.zooomr.com/photos/jsmith/3087512/ |
| 11:12.19 | konqi_ | jsmith: i did a reload... |
| 11:12.27 | yannj_fr | I have the PDF |
| 11:12.48 | yannj_fr | but it is written "safary propriety" |
| 11:12.56 | jsmith | konqi_: I don't think a reload is enough... |
| 11:13.05 | jsmith | yannj_fr: Oh, of the second edition? |
| 11:13.10 | yannj_fr | yes |
| 11:13.16 | konqi_ | jsmith, okay - did a restart... testing now |
| 11:13.33 | yannj_fr | but I did a copy 'without disclaimer' |
| 11:14.28 | tzafrir_home | Is the starfish included with the book, or only if you're the author? :-) |
| 11:14.29 | jsmith | Yeah, I keep forgetting that people can buy a copy... (which is fine with me, but it'll also be available for free) |
| 11:14.36 | Daviey | yannj_fr: I'm guessing it's not yet CC then? |
| 11:14.54 | jsmith | tzafrir_home: Sorry... I picked that up in Greece a couple of weeks ago. I'd be happy to show you where you can get your own. |
| 11:15.21 | jsmith | Daviey: Yes, it's CC yet... I can show you a picture of the copyright page :-) |
| 11:15.29 | TylerJGillies | http://www.asteriskdocs.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=11 isn't connecting |
| 11:15.36 | Daviey | TylerJGillies: same here |
| 11:15.44 | konqi_ | jsmith: looks like this now: http://pastebin.com/m41a7060b |
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| 11:16.00 | Daviey | yannj_fr: so can you redestribute it before it'sannounced, ie now? |
| 11:17.37 | jsmith | TylerJGillies: Yeah, the website has been up and down the past couple of days... I'd be happy to email the first-edition PDF to you. |
| 11:17.52 | TylerJGillies | jsmith: please do. that would be much appreciated |
| 11:17.54 | jsmith | TylerJGillies: (and the second edition, once I have a copy) |
| 11:18.00 | TylerJGillies | jsmith: tjgillies@gmail.com |
| 11:18.05 | jsmith | TylerJGillies: Assuming I can find it on my hard drive, that is... |
| 11:18.53 | Daviey | second edition based on 1.4? |
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| 11:19.31 | jsmith | TylerJGillies: http://www.nufone.net/downloads/asteriskdocs/AsteriskTFOT.zip |
| 11:19.34 | jsmith | Daviey: Of course! |
| 11:20.14 | Daviey | \o/ |
| 11:20.25 | konqi_ | jsmith: added the pri debug span 1 ... cli-output here: http://pastebin.com/m17941210 |
| 11:20.35 | jsmith | Daviey: Another reason for the delay is that O'Reilly decided to host the new PDF directly from their servers, so they could get a better sense of how free downloads might be affecting book sales |
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| 11:21.24 | Daviey | jsmith: ah.. If we want more CC books avaliable in PDF - we had better spread the word to grab it from mirrors then :D |
| 11:22.09 | Daviey | tbh.. i usually buy useful paper copies; but like to get a feel - and PDF usage for 'in the field' use |
| 11:22.42 | jsmith | Daviey: No, the best thing you can do is tell everyone to get it directly from O'Reilly's website, but then *still* go out and buy the book :-) |
| 11:22.58 | jsmith | Daviey: To be honest, it's hard to curl up in an easy chair with a PDF |
| 11:23.23 | Daviey | especially when lapppy's fan is broken and it burns legs |
| 11:23.28 | jsmith | konqi_: You'll probably have to call the phone company and work with them on this problem... it seems we're doing everything we should, but they're not liking something |
| 11:23.58 | jsmith | Daviey: That laptop will come in handy when the next ice age hits us :-) |
| 11:24.14 | Daviey | heck, we use my laptop as a fireplace |
| 11:25.20 | konqi_ | jsmith: i read somewhere about asterisk dialing out too soon or too fast for the telco - maybe there could be a possible solution |
| 11:27.01 | jsmith | konqi_: Nope... that's never a problem on ISDN connections... that's only on analog |
| 11:27.31 | konqi_ | jsmith: old pbx is still working on the pri... it's now connected to the second span - where we can dial out - but not it |
| 11:31.54 | jsmith | konqi_: And the other pbx isn't somehow manipulating the digits before sending them to the telco? |
| 11:31.56 | TylerJGillies | jsmith: As time went on, I was finally |
| 11:31.56 | TylerJGillies | able to figure out enough to get Asterisk up and running. |
| 11:32.02 | TylerJGillies | i love that quote |
| 11:32.31 | jsmith | TylerJGillies: You have no idea how long it took me to start to understand Asterisk... think *months*, not days... |
| 11:32.43 | konqi_ | jsmith: now that's a good question - however - if we might get the old pbx to work on trunk 2 then maybe we could find that out |
| 11:32.59 | TylerJGillies | jsmith: i don't feel so dumb now. i have no SIP VOIP experience besides writing VXML scripts heh |
| 11:33.15 | jsmith | TylerJGillies: When I started with Asterisk, the general consensus was "If you can't read the source code and figure out out from there, this isn't for you." |
| 11:33.22 | jsmith | TylerJGillies: Luckily, that's changed :-) |
| 11:33.34 | TylerJGillies | jsmith: hardcore heh |
| 11:33.36 | konqi_ | jsmith: for the old pbx it says: -- Extension '' in context 'from-pbx' from '6778200297' does not exist. Rejecting call on channel 0/31, span 2 |
| 11:33.49 | TylerJGillies | elitism stops so much productivity |
| 11:34.10 | TylerJGillies | K.I.S.S. |
| 11:34.27 | jsmith | TylerJGillies: This wasn't elitism... it's just that there were *so few* people using Asterisk, nobody had bothered to try to document it |
| 11:34.57 | jsmith | TylerJGillies: In December of 2001, there were only like twelve people on the Asterisk mailing list... |
| 11:35.33 | jsmith | konqi_: Very strange... it's trying to dial *no* extension at all... |
| 11:36.18 | TylerJGillies | jsmith: dang... good thing i'm starting now and not back then. but its due to the efforts of people like you that i'm even starting at all |
| 11:36.51 | konqi_ | jsmith: well - that's what comes up when i just pick up the phone.... it's waiting for da dial tone i guess |
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| 11:37.24 | jsmith | konqi_: You don't have "immediate=yes", do you? |
| 11:37.50 | jsmith | TylerJGillies: Well, I ain't all that and a bag of chips... but I try to help out the community :-) |
| 11:38.10 | konqi_ | jsmith: it's immediate=no atm |
| 11:38.12 | TylerJGillies | jsmith: you got more chips in your bag than i do. |
| 11:39.23 | jsmith | konqi_: Then it shouldn't be dialing as soon as you take the phone off the hook |
| 11:39.55 | jsmith | Back in a little while... |
| 11:40.26 | konqi_ | Good hunger anyways :-) |
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| 11:57.57 | TylerJGillies | anyone know of a good hosted asterisk solution? |
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| 12:10.01 | Trentster | Hey all, just a quickone, on my snom phone when I put someone on hold they hear the music on hold but from my side i Hear a long high ptched tone, until I take them off hold. What do I need to do in order for me to hear the music on hold as well, as the person being put on hold? |
| 12:21.42 | WildPikachu | how does one comment the extensions.ael file? |
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| 12:25.54 | WildPikachu | hrmmmm |
| 12:25.59 | WildPikachu | ; appears to generate errors |
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| 12:26.30 | WildPikachu | aha |
| 12:39.20 | tzafrir_home | WildPikachu, // ? |
| 12:39.28 | WildPikachu | yea ... just found that, thanks |
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| 12:45.29 | masus | "ERROR[25340]: func_odbc.c:313 acf_odbc_read: Unable to load ODBC read class (check res_odbc.conf)" |
| 12:45.35 | masus | anybody an idea |
| 12:45.45 | masus | isql is working fine |
| 12:45.49 | masus | with odbc |
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| 12:53.05 | VJFROMGT | i need to record the ip for every incomming call, can someone tell me where to get help,, willing to pay |
| 12:54.49 | centrex | VJFROMGT, I would think cdr would record that information wouldn't it? |
| 12:54.59 | VJFROMGT | it does not |
| 12:55.08 | VJFROMGT | whic is why i want it |
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| 12:56.12 | masus | can u get the ip |
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| 12:56.37 | VJFROMGT | i am assuming it can be taken from sip packet or sip peer |
| 12:57.14 | masus | if u can get it u can store it vi func_odbc to db |
| 12:57.58 | masus | or with application MYSQL directly t mysql |
| 12:58.09 | VJFROMGT | i dont know how to ,, do u know who i can get to do it for me |
| 12:58.12 | VJFROMGT | willing to pay |
| 12:58.24 | masus | i don't want money |
| 12:58.30 | masus | but i want to help one mom |
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| 12:59.33 | masus | SIP destination domain of an inbound call |
| 12:59.37 | masus | is this what u need |
| 12:59.57 | masus | one mom i'll test it |
| 12:59.57 | VJFROMGT | i am not clear what that means |
| 13:00.18 | VJFROMGT | i want to know what ip is making the call |
| 13:00.35 | VJFROMGT | or what ip an extension is on when it makes a call |
| 13:01.05 | VJFROMGT | manus,can i pm u? |
| 13:01.15 | centrex | VJFROMGT, You could set the user caller ids to be their ips in sip.conf, and then record the callerid variables with a dialplan script, possibly? |
| 13:01.15 | masus | yesnp |
| 13:01.28 | masus | i have do it |
| 13:01.37 | centrex | not the best solution but it's a kinda dirty hack I guess. |
| 13:02.23 | VJFROMGT | centrex , it does not work as my uses do not authenticate by username/passw |
| 13:02.50 | centrex | ah, sorry |
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| 13:24.19 | WildPikachu | a fxs card is fxo from the perspective of asterisk? |
| 13:27.08 | blitzrage | WildPikachu: it uses FXO signalling -- it still looks like an FXS port though |
| 13:27.23 | blitzrage | FXS ports use FXO signalling, and FXO ports use FXS signalling |
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| 13:38.11 | zim | Hi all i have a isdn2e line into my office with a block of 10 DDI numbers what card would i need to let my asterisk server us it ??? |
| 13:44.59 | WildPikachu | blitzrage, so its the opposite way around :) |
| 13:49.36 | blitzrage | WildPikachu: it might appear that way |
| 13:55.06 | Daviey | zim: a BRI card :) |
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| 14:02.19 | So3kris | hello |
| 14:02.35 | So3kris | use people pap2 with 1.4.11 |
| 14:05.29 | Daviey | So3kris: people do use the PAP2 with * 1.4, yes |
| 14:06.26 | So3kris | 1.4.11 ? |
| 14:07.23 | So3kris | I had upgade the 1.4.2 to 1.4.11 and my pap2 don't work |
| 14:13.15 | zim | Daviey Thanks |
| 14:14.35 | zim | Daviey you also helped me yesterday with the conf for sipgate ty for that still not working but a few steps forward |
| 14:16.02 | zim | ps what does BRI stand for |
| 14:16.17 | JT | basic rate interface |
| 14:16.51 | zim | ty |
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| 14:18.49 | tzafrir_home | Is it BRI or PRI? |
| 14:19.09 | tzafrir_home | (2 Bchanns or much more?) |
| 14:20.16 | JT | it's bri that he's talking about |
| 14:20.24 | tzafrir_home | ~wiki BRI |
| 14:21.04 | zim | would any of the following work ??? |
| 14:21.04 | zim | http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll?sofocus=bs&sbrftog=1&maxrecordsreturned=300&frpp=50&from=R10&satitle=bri+card&sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6&sargn=-1%26saslc%3D3&sadis=200&fpos=DT2+0PY&sabfmts=1&saobfmts=insif&ga10244=10425&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=&fsop=1%26fsoo%3D1&coaction=compare&copagenum=1&coentrypage=search&fgtp= |
| 14:21.17 | tzafrir_home | zim, it can be handy to look things up in wikipedia , http://voip-info.org or whatever before asking here... |
| 14:21.42 | zim | it was just out of intrest |
| 14:21.52 | zim | calm down |
| 14:22.05 | JT | i don't see anyone not being calm |
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| 14:23.56 | zim | is ok JT i was just pointing out that asking a little Q is not a bad thing |
| 14:24.28 | JT | all in your judgement i assume :) |
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| 14:25.12 | tzafrir_home | zim, no offence :-) Just for future use |
| 14:26.01 | adorah | Hi tzafrir_home whass'up? |
| 14:26.07 | zim | I use wikipedia all the time anyway this is much apu about nothing |
| 14:26.29 | JT | zim: because you made it into drama :) |
| 14:26.51 | zim | " zim, it can be handy to look things up in wikipedia , http://voip-info.org or whatever before asking here..." |
| 14:27.02 | JT | yes that was helpful advice |
| 14:27.03 | zim | anyway I have move on |
| 14:27.05 | JT | you say "thanks" |
| 14:27.30 | zim | moving on |
| 14:27.51 | JT | lot's of moving |
| 14:28.33 | tzafrir_home | hi adorah |
| 14:29.00 | zim | a Q that wiki* wont answer in the link I posted is a few cards what are the pro's/con/s/won't works with them ? |
| 14:29.43 | JT | actually the wiki talks all about bri chipsets and drivers |
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| 14:30.35 | zim | lets close down IRC |
| 14:31.49 | JT | you should get a hfc card and bristuff |
| 14:32.19 | zim | TY |
| 14:32.57 | JT | just don't make up bs about it not being on the voip-info wiki :) |
| 14:35.28 | zim | i never said that at all all i was saying is I can spend all afternoon trying to work out a prob (RFM) or ask in here and if someone like you or Daviey who are kind enough to give a quick answer it great and Y i love GNU |
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| 14:36.22 | JT | the reality is that bri is a pain in the arse in asterisk |
| 14:36.33 | JT | and all the different solutions have their shortcomings |
| 14:36.35 | zim | why ? |
| 14:36.45 | JT | because asterisk is from america |
| 14:36.50 | zim | :) |
| 14:36.54 | JT | and bri is rare there |
| 14:36.59 | JT | and there's no etsi bri there |
| 14:37.54 | zim | what about analogue lines |
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| 14:38.07 | zim | ie bog standard bt line |
| 14:38.36 | zim | ok let me fill u in on where i am at |
| 14:38.46 | JT | yes they work |
| 14:38.47 | JT | but |
| 14:38.50 | JT | analogue is evil |
| 14:38.59 | blitzrage | analogue is practically useless |
| 14:39.21 | blitzrage | better off using an ITSP in my opinion |
| 14:39.33 | JT | well not for reliability reasons |
| 14:39.33 | blitzrage | some people have success with the Linksys ATA devices though |
| 14:40.05 | blitzrage | maybe I've just used the wrong hardware on analogue... but it always seems like such a pain in the ass, and not very reliable -- although I avoid it so I don't have the "tricks" some people might have |
| 14:40.17 | JT | hangup etc is unreliable |
| 14:40.24 | JT | but in terms of circuit availability |
| 14:40.34 | JT | VoIPoI is a gamgle |
| 14:40.38 | zim | in our office we have an isdn2e (bt versatility) digital for analog calls and a analogure line for internet (only in the UK) |
| 14:40.38 | JT | gamble |
| 14:41.46 | zim | oh yes and we live in the sticks so cant get 100% uptime |
| 14:42.15 | zim | so where i am aiming is bit of everything |
| 14:42.48 | zim | sipgate isdn2e landline loads of fallover |
| 14:43.07 | tzafrir_home | well, bristuff doesn't have to be *that* painful |
| 14:43.44 | JT | it's fairly reliable with hfc |
| 14:43.46 | JT | still some bugs |
| 14:44.10 | zim | also i am just getting into voip so dont know whats good/bad/ok etc |
| 14:47.59 | tzafrir_home | duh. Is there an easy way to go back to an earlier version on the voip-info wiki? |
| 14:48.37 | tzafrir_home | Just managed to remove most other vendors from the "asterisk hardware" page :-( |
| 14:48.56 | JT | diff |
| 14:48.59 | JT | history |
| 14:49.04 | JT | dunno if it support reverting |
| 14:50.06 | zim | back to sipgate what ports will it want to have open back to my asterisknow server ??? |
| 14:51.24 | zim | at the mo i have 5060,5061,4000,4001,4004,4005 |
| 14:51.35 | JT | weird selection |
| 14:51.40 | zim | are there any others ??? |
| 14:51.41 | JT | udp 5060, 10000-20000 |
| 14:51.50 | JT | most of those you listed aren't needed |
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| 14:52.52 | zim | im using a linksys pap2 to connect and x-lite all just playing trying to work it out (lots of fog that will all make sence oneday) |
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| 14:53.51 | muh-die-kuh | hi |
| 14:56.18 | muh-die-kuh | i just set up a asterisk box, connected to sipgate. with my gxp2000, i can call my normal isdn phone. otherway round doesnt work. if i call my isdn phone with my voip phone, i can hear everything said into the voip phone out of the isdn phone, but otherway round doesnt work. can someone give me some hints regarding this? i guess its something with my nat, i think i allready read sth. about this issue, but i cant figure out, where... |
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| 15:06.59 | tzafrir_home | JT, does't really. |
| 15:07.16 | tzafrir_home | I ended up copying from the "osurce" of an earlier revision |
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| 15:11.39 | JT | tzafrir_home: fair enough, they're not as anal as wikipedia about that sort of thing anyway |
| 15:11.57 | JT | i often wonder if voip-info is ever maintained by the hosts at all |
| 15:12.30 | tzafrir_home | A wiki hsould not be maintained by the "hosts". It should be maintained by "a bunch of users" |
| 15:13.06 | tzafrir_home | If you won't wantch some pages, who will? |
| 15:14.14 | Daviey | zim: what's the problem with sipgate.co.uk & your settings? |
| 15:14.22 | Daviey | That conf i provided should be dandy |
| 15:15.32 | zim | Daviey i think it was it did not carry the hold on will find it |
| 15:16.07 | zim | insecure = port,invite |
| 15:16.24 | Daviey | that's what you need with sipgate & asterisk 1.4 |
| 15:16.25 | zim | so i just edited the user.conf |
| 15:16.55 | zim | i added what you sent to providers.conf |
| 15:17.12 | zim | then in the gui added sipgate |
| 15:17.48 | Daviey | and what happend? |
| 15:17.48 | WildPikachu | would anything prevent me from using system()? even a echo hello > /tmp/file.log gives me an error |
| 15:17.50 | zim | but it did not carry across to the user.conf |
| 15:18.01 | JT | tzafrir_home: as in stopping the site from falling apart, blocking spammers |
| 15:18.10 | Daviey | zim: :s, it should! |
| 15:18.21 | WildPikachu | [Sep 1 17:18:02] WARNING[16199]: app_system.c:105 system_exec_helper: Unable to execute '"echo hi > /tmp/ast.log"' |
| 15:18.28 | zim | i would think so but it did not |
| 15:18.43 | zim | will do it again and pastebin it to show you |
| 15:18.49 | zim | hold on# |
| 15:19.54 | tzafrir_home | But unlike wikipedia, they don't allow non-subscribers to fix content |
| 15:20.11 | Qwell | and they have ridiculous licensing |
| 15:20.15 | Daviey | zim: it should add http://pastebin.ca/677986 |
| 15:20.25 | Qwell | tzafrir_home: ever read the voip-info terms? |
| 15:20.32 | tzafrir_home | hmmm... |
| 15:20.36 | Qwell | makes me not want to contribute |
| 15:20.43 | Daviey | Qwell: no.. what's the highlights |
| 15:20.52 | Qwell | they're downright draconian |
| 15:21.12 | zim | this in in my providers.conf http://pastebin.com/m7af290d3 |
| 15:21.53 | Daviey | zim: looks good |
| 15:22.15 | zim | ok will now add using the gui |
| 15:24.10 | tzafrir_home | Qwell, I understand you |
| 15:24.12 | Daviey | zim: Regarding BRI; you have 10 DDI's and only need two channels? |
| 15:24.24 | zim | http://pastebin.com/m23971b05 |
| 15:24.28 | tzafrir_home | Do you know of any alternative site with a good license? |
| 15:24.43 | tzafrir_home | (that is: no non-commercial clause) |
| 15:25.04 | Qwell | tzafrir_home: not that I know of.. isn't that horrible though? |
| 15:25.44 | zim | Daviey in the uk you buy them in blocks of 10 |
| 15:25.49 | WildPikachu | man ... wish i could find out why my system() command is just not working |
| 15:25.54 | JerJer | Qwell: lets start a new one :) |
| 15:26.01 | zim | if you want more than 1 you get 10 |
| 15:26.09 | JerJer | voip-false-info.org |
| 15:26.39 | zim | Daviey you still about ? |
| 15:26.44 | Qwell | how would it be different from voip-info? ;) |
| 15:27.08 | Daviey | zim: sorry.. had to go for a few mins - I am in the UK |
| 15:27.15 | zim | kewl |
| 15:27.21 | zim | yes is the answer |
| 15:27.21 | Qwell | this is the line that gets me every time... |
| 15:27.25 | Qwell | "[You may not] - Reproduce, duplicate, copy, sell, resell, visit or use for other commercial purposes this site or any portion thereof." |
| 15:27.28 | tzafrir_home | I never really understood system. Does it expect separate parameters for exec, or does it throw anything to system() |
| 15:27.34 | Qwell | You can't even *VISIT* the site for commercial use |
| 15:28.01 | zim | Daviey where in the uk |
| 15:28.09 | Daviey | Qwell: "You may not ... vist" ?!! |
| 15:28.15 | Daviey | *visit* |
| 15:28.34 | Daviey | zim: Hants |
| 15:28.39 | tzafrir_home | well, that's a problem. Because when you press the "search" box, you get to google. And google seems to abuse voip-info's page in violation of the license, right? :-) |
| 15:28.42 | Qwell | yes, as in, you are not allowed to go there if you are planning on making money by using what you learn in any way. |
| 15:28.50 | zim | Hants? |
| 15:28.58 | Daviey | zim: Hampshire u? |
| 15:28.58 | zim | where is that |
| 15:29.07 | zim | ok Dorset |
| 15:29.26 | JerJer | commpartners sucks |
| 15:29.30 | Daviey | Qwell: bah.. i just assumed it was a CC licenced |
| 15:30.11 | tzafrir_home | Daviey, "CC license" does not really mean anything. There are too many of them |
| 15:30.52 | Daviey | tzafrir_home: Well any one of them is better than what they have |
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| 15:31.19 | Daviey | may not *visit*.. how crazy is that? |
| 15:31.32 | zim | Daviey did you have a look at the second paistbin? |
| 15:31.42 | Daviey | no |
| 15:31.54 | Daviey | zim: missed the link |
| 15:31.55 | zim | http://pastebin.com/m23971b05 |
| 15:32.28 | Qwell | oh, heh, you can't even modify the site without their permission either |
| 15:32.35 | Daviey | zim: something is wrong with asterisk-gui, it seems then |
| 15:32.56 | zim | asterisknow clean install |
| 15:32.56 | Daviey | replace the contents with what I pastebined |
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| 15:33.39 | Daviey | zim: http://pastebin.ca/677986 ; use that |
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| 15:35.52 | tzafrir_home | It seems that they have been bitten by imposters, and want to make sure they can remove such content upright |
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| 15:36.16 | tzafrir_home | Apart from that, they basically reserve themselves the ability to relicense the contents |
| 15:36.36 | Daviey | zim: then backup your settings and drop asteriskNow in favour of a proper linux distro |
| 15:36.48 | Daviey | (just my opinion) |
| 15:37.00 | zim | no need to backup |
| 15:37.05 | tzafrir_home | (And from what I understand, it's more o a "he" than a "they") |
| 15:37.12 | zim | was just using it to learn faster |
| 15:37.22 | zim | I am an ubuntu fan |
| 15:37.29 | zim | will that do ??? |
| 15:37.32 | Daviey | zim: yes |
| 15:37.41 | zim | what is the best |
| 15:38.06 | Daviey | zim: well if you /whois me ; You can see why i wouldn't suggest another distro <GRIN> |
| 15:38.16 | tzafrir_home | If you're comfortable with Ubuntu, use Ubuntu |
| 15:38.51 | zim | kewl |
| 15:38.55 | Blue_Ice | just use the distro which suits you best ... |
| 15:39.01 | tzafrir_home | I would personally suggest Debian, but that's a different story |
| 15:39.07 | Qwell | Daviey: When're you guys gonna fix gnome+nvidia+xinerama? :) |
| 15:39.45 | Daviey | Qwell: erm i thought it was now working? |
| 15:39.53 | Qwell | dunno, I had to switch to debian |
| 15:39.58 | Daviey | (i could be wrong; /me doesn't use nvidia) |
| 15:40.15 | Qwell | it was like that for months, and nobody would acknowledge the problem |
| 15:40.19 | Blue_Ice | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:40.37 | Daviey | Blue_Ice: But i guess you do use a desktop of some sort? ;) |
| 15:40.50 | zim | Daviey would you use 6.10 or 7.04 server/Desktop |
| 15:41.09 | Blue_Ice | I used to work with XFCE, but now only use linux for the servers, and wintendo / os X for clients |
| 15:41.21 | Daviey | zim: dapper 6.10 until, March imo |
| 15:41.35 | Daviey | Blue_Ice: you have my sympathy |
| 15:41.53 | zim | server/desktop |
| 15:42.10 | Daviey | zim: Dapper 6.10 is supported, for security updates etc until 2011 |
| 15:42.26 | Daviey | zim: 7.04 only until 2008 :`( |
| 15:42.50 | tzafrir_home | well, I had more problems with 606 |
| 15:42.53 | Blue_Ice | Daviey: Lunar ftw, bye bye sympathy? ^_^ |
| 15:42.58 | zim | yes but this is just a play box |
| 15:43.03 | tzafrir_home | including a not-so-smooth installation of Zaptel |
| 15:43.17 | Daviey | tzafrir_home: i have ztdummy working fine on dapper |
| 15:43.31 | zim | to learn the ropes with asterisk |
| 15:44.05 | Blue_Ice | btw, anybody using a TDM400 with a soekris net48xx? |
| 15:44.11 | zim | life span aside what would you use |
| 15:44.12 | Daviey | zim: i would also suggest building from source, rather than packages.. When you are learning; the packages do too much for you - imo |
| 15:44.16 | Blue_Ice | sucks that the pci-slot is inverted ... |
| 15:45.01 | Daviey | zim: Personally Dappper for a * dedicated server.. but tbh - it makes little difference |
| 15:45.37 | zim | kewl the one thing i do like about 7.04 is dash |
| 15:45.52 | zim | tab is my friend |
| 15:46.03 | Daviey | zim: careful with dash... some scripts rely upon bashisms |
| 15:46.19 | zim | asterisk scripts ? |
| 15:46.22 | tzafrir_home | So those scripts should be fixed |
| 15:46.32 | tzafrir_home | That's the Debian policy |
| 15:46.55 | tzafrir_home | (and if it is "safe_asterisk" you refer to: you should not use ut anyway) |
| 15:47.24 | tzafrir_home | A script that uses bashism should have an explicit /bin/bash |
| 15:48.12 | tzafrir_home | well, the packages save you the dirty work, and allow you to focus on hte important stuff |
| 15:48.33 | zim | i still dont know y people still like vi compaired to vim |
| 15:48.39 | zim | but they do |
| 15:48.59 | tzafrir_home | zim, which wi exactly? nvi? yuck |
| 15:49.16 | tzafrir_home | ever tried using it? |
| 15:49.43 | zim | sorry that was all lost on me |
| 15:49.59 | zim | is wi an editor |
| 15:50.40 | tzafrir_home | nvi is a reimplementation of the original vi. There are a bunch of other vi clones out there (elvis, viper (ahem), etc.) |
| 15:50.58 | JT | but you said wi :) |
| 15:51.00 | tzafrir_home | and there is vim :-) |
| 15:51.17 | tzafrir_home | I mean vi |
| 15:51.31 | tzafrir_home | meant |
| 15:51.50 | zim | ok is nvi better than vim ? |
| 15:52.07 | Qwell | tzafrir_home: With freebsd not having a /bin/bash, how can people be expected to specify it? |
| 15:52.15 | Qwell | just tell them to use a real OS? :p |
| 15:52.55 | tzafrir_home | Qwell, what is /bin/sh on your FreeBSD system, then? |
| 15:53.15 | Qwell | /bin/sh is sh, but bash is like... |
| 15:53.25 | tzafrir_home | wich sh exactly? |
| 15:53.36 | heelios | just sh... |
| 15:53.39 | tzafrir_home | which |
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| 15:54.03 | zim | just ln -s /bin/bash /bin/sh |
| 15:54.07 | Qwell | /usr/local/bin/some/more/random/garbage/here/would/be/dumb/but/they/do/it/anyways/bash |
| 15:54.07 | Qwell | there is no /bin/bash on freebsd |
| 15:54.16 | tzafrir_home | zim, no. |
| 15:54.23 | heelios | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bourne_shell |
| 15:54.26 | tzafrir_home | That is handled by the alternaitves |
| 15:54.41 | tzafrir_home | (or overrides? I don't remember) |
| 15:54.43 | zim | ok |
| 15:54.59 | tzafrir_home | dpkg-reconfigure dash |
| 15:55.12 | tzafrir_home | but you lose time at system startup ... |
| 15:55.50 | Qwell | I'm not saying we should be using /bin/sh in stuff that requires bash (and I fixed a few instances of that recently) |
| 15:55.52 | Qwell | but, what should be use when they want to use bashisms? |
| 15:56.09 | Qwell | since /bin/bash is apparently OS specific |
| 15:56.09 | tzafrir_home | Qwell, but which shell exactly is /bin/sh ? pdksh? ksh? |
| 15:56.17 | Qwell | bourne shell |
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| 15:56.49 | tzafrir_home | So it should fail as well with safe_asterisk |
| 15:56.59 | Qwell | it's sh compliant, because that's what the spec came from ;) |
| 15:57.07 | Qwell | yeah, it should, I'm not saying it shouldn't.. |
| 15:57.22 | tzafrir_home | dash is also posix sh compliant. |
| 15:57.25 | Qwell | I mean, instead of #!/bin/sh, if we want to use bashisms, what should we use? #!/bin/bash is invalid |
| 15:57.59 | heelios | Qwell: you could just install bash I guess. |
| 15:58.09 | Nivex | #!/usr/bin/env bash |
| 15:58.09 | Nivex | ? |
| 15:58.11 | Qwell | on freebsd, bash is at /usr/local/bin/bash |
| 15:58.41 | tzafrir_home | I fixed the init.d script by replacing &> with &2> , because this is what was needed |
| 15:58.43 | zim | all i will say is Tab is my friend |
| 15:59.05 | Qwell | `/usr/bin/env bash` on linux for me returns nothing |
| 15:59.06 | tzafrir_home | I really couldn't care less about safe_asterisk |
| 15:59.24 | Nivex | Qwell: it doesn't return anything because it invoked bash for you |
| 16:00.04 | Qwell | well, that's silly |
| 16:00.10 | mmlj4 | tzafrir_home: you really should... you might end up catching an asterisk virus otherwise |
| 16:00.26 | tzafrir_home | I odn't like that form, because it doesn't easily allow adding parameters to the program (something perl people are fond of, and I also often use for -x) |
| 16:00.59 | mmlj4 | or some other pbx disease, you know |
| 16:01.06 | Qwell | mmlj4: like ccm? |
| 16:01.17 | mmlj4 | </joke> |
| 16:02.29 | Qwell | you guys know much about valid cable internet signals? specifically dBmV values? |
| 16:02.48 | Qwell | Receive Power Level: -7.9 dBmV |
| 16:02.48 | Qwell | Transmit Power Level: 42.5 dBmV |
| 16:02.51 | Qwell | Is that bad? |
| 16:03.01 | zim | any way I am now installing ubuntu 7.10 as it has dash (hopefully all scripts have been updated) and i dont need LTS |
| 16:03.11 | zim | sorry 7.04 |
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| 16:04.43 | CCFL_Man2 | Qwell: i only know adsl signal properties |
| 16:05.05 | zim | what should i start by installing as I am a competent user and not a dev i want to use apt-get |
| 16:05.06 | CCFL_Man2 | you have a cisco cable modem WIC? |
| 16:05.32 | zim | Daviey any ideas |
| 16:07.10 | Daviey | zim: bbl |
| 16:07.26 | zim | bbl ??? |
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| 16:07.56 | Qwell | Strom_M: you |
| 16:09.17 | Daviey | be back later |
| 16:10.11 | tzafrir_home | Any mandriva users here? |
| 16:10.47 | tzafrir_home | I'm a bit lost with the reply I got in asterisk-users regarding the guy who had problems building zaptel on his Mandriva |
| 16:11.05 | tzafrir_home | I wonder where that "custom" came from |
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| 16:12.42 | Strom_M | Qwell: me? |
| 16:12.47 | Qwell | you |
| 16:12.57 | Strom_M | ok |
| 16:14.07 | CCFL_Man2 | tzafrir_home: again, thanks for your help |
| 16:15.09 | zim | Daviey you still around |
| 16:15.27 | Qwell | I'd like to kick somebody at Comcast... |
| 16:15.39 | Qwell | I'm pretty sure my packets are being shaped out of existence |
| 16:16.00 | CCFL_Man2 | Qwell: cumcast sucks |
| 16:16.08 | Qwell | from 9pm to 11am, for the last like 3 nights, I've been getting about 30% packet loss... |
| 16:16.15 | CCFL_Man2 | Qwell: they shape traffic like crazy |
| 16:16.21 | Daviey | zim: bit tied up atm |
| 16:17.06 | CCFL_Man2 | Qwell: you in charge of the premis wiring? |
| 16:17.14 | Qwell | yeah |
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| 16:17.54 | CCFL_Man2 | Qwell: if everything is ok on that front then call cumcast and bitch at their shitty tech support |
| 16:18.07 | Qwell | did, and I got the worst support person *ever* |
| 16:18.11 | zim | no prob just a bit of feed back to ubuntu on the 7.04 installer if you want a static ip and you are running a DHCP server on the network you have to unplug the cable so it fails before saying set it manualy |
| 16:18.13 | Qwell | and I've dealt with adelphia and sprint |
| 16:18.23 | Qwell | so that's really saying something |
| 16:18.45 | CCFL_Man2 | Qwell: cumcast is a pathetic company, i'd suggest adsl |
| 16:18.57 | Qwell | (adelphia, the company who had a rep try to tell me that there are 1028 bytes in a bit (yes, seriously), is better than the idiot I talked to) |
| 16:19.06 | CCFL_Man2 | though verizon aint much better |
| 16:19.07 | Qwell | I don't do Bell |
| 16:19.08 | CCFL_Man2 | lol |
| 16:19.28 | CCFL_Man2 | oh, you don't care for your RBOC? |
| 16:19.43 | Qwell | no such thing as RBOCs anymore, heh, it's all AT&T |
| 16:19.56 | Strom_M | Qwell: you don't have to get ADSL from AT&T |
| 16:20.07 | coppice | Its still a Really Bad Operating Company, though |
| 16:20.16 | Qwell | I've done the third-party DSL thing before. I'm NOT doing that again. EVER |
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| 16:20.27 | Strom_M | Qwell: por que? |
| 16:20.30 | Qwell | Earthlink |
| 16:20.33 | Qwell | They need to die. |
| 16:20.42 | Strom_M | well yeah, I meant a REAL DSL company |
| 16:20.43 | TedNJ38 | Hay aqui alguien que me pueda ayudar en Espanol? |
| 16:20.46 | Strom_M | not earthlink |
| 16:21.02 | Qwell | well, we don't have like dslextreme out here, heh |
| 16:21.07 | coppice | Qwell: They just laid off half their staff, so they are making progress toward your goal |
| 16:21.13 | Qwell | coppice: good |
| 16:21.21 | Qwell | I hope they die. Really. Dead. |
| 16:21.26 | Qwell | and I don't mean the company |
| 16:21.29 | CCFL_Man2 | Strom_M: in my local exchange there is only the RBOC, i can't get pots from any provider except the RBOC, so i'm stuck with the RBOC's adsl |
| 16:21.48 | CCFL_Man2 | TedNJ38: engrish only plz |
| 16:21.59 | Strom_M | CCFL_Man2: the CLEC doesn't have to have facilities in your specific CO |
| 16:22.13 | CCFL_Man2 | Strom_M: nope, none in my area do |
| 16:22.17 | Strom_M | they can backhaul it to their switch |
| 16:22.35 | Qwell | besides, I don't have a phone line anyways |
| 16:22.46 | Strom_M | most facilities-based CLECs only have one or two switches for a major metro area |
| 16:22.47 | Qwell | so, unless t-mobile wants to run dsl to my cell...heh |
| 16:22.58 | CCFL_Man2 | Strom_M: but then i'd get crappy adsl performance because the COs that they are in are fairly far away |
| 16:23.06 | TedNJ38 | I need help please. I am relatively new to Asterisk. I have network of phones all over the US which have been scattered among my relatives. I want to purchase a landline in Peru so whenever any of us wants to talk to them we could dial 9 + phone number and get connected to them. And whenever any of our relatives in Peru want to call here, they dial a number and they get prompted to select who they want to talk to. Is that possible? |
| 16:23.14 | Strom_M | CCFL_Man2: no, that's not how ADSL works |
| 16:23.15 | Qwell | CCFL_Man2: from the dslam, it's all fiber |
| 16:23.30 | CCFL_Man2 | i know that |
| 16:23.31 | Qwell | you just connect to the dslam at the co, and from there it goes to your ISP |
| 16:23.36 | CCFL_Man2 | fiber feeds the dslam |
| 16:23.52 | Strom_M | CCFL_Man2: and the DSLAM is *always* in your end office |
| 16:24.01 | CCFL_Man2 | i doubt my local CO has any dslams other than their own |
| 16:24.28 | Qwell | CCFL_Man2: your isp doesn't need a dslam at the co |
| 16:24.34 | CCFL_Man2 | oh, the dslams are shared? |
| 16:24.46 | Qwell | well, the telco owns it |
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| 16:24.53 | CCFL_Man2 | og |
| 16:25.05 | CCFL_Man2 | h, but they lease circuits |
| 16:25.14 | Qwell | afaik |
| 16:25.26 | darkfires | when you use exten => s,n ... can you use gotoif to specify line numbers that are automatically incremented by n ? |
| 16:25.31 | Strom_M | CCFL_Man2: for example, my ADSL is from a company called DSLExtreme. The DSL transport between by prem and the CO is AT&T, but then AT&T hands it off to my ISP, who backhauls it to their router in downtown los angeles |
| 16:26.03 | Qwell | Strom_M: how do you like dslextreme? I was looking at them when I was in covina |
| 16:26.05 | CCFL_Man2 | Strom_M: you think verizon is that nice? |
| 16:26.20 | Qwell | CCFL_Man2: I'm pretty sure they're forced to.. |
| 16:26.23 | Strom_M | Qwell: I've been an extremely happy customer for three years. |
| 16:26.57 | Strom_M | CCFL_Man2: where are you, specificaly |
| 16:27.52 | coppice | Qwell: the only thing a telco is forced to do is suck |
| 16:27.55 | CCFL_Man2 | Qwell: ahh, wasn't sure |
| 16:28.07 | Qwell | coppice: and wiretap |
| 16:28.08 | CCFL_Man2 | Strom_M: northeast PA |
| 16:28.18 | Strom_M | man, you people are excessively pessimistic |
| 16:28.29 | coppice | Qwell: only without a court order, though |
| 16:29.02 | WildPikachu | why do some config options have => and some = ? |
| 16:29.14 | TedNJ38 | I need help please. I am relatively new to Asterisk. I have a network of phones all over the US which have been scattered among my relatives. I want to purchase a landline in Peru so whenever any of us wants to talk to them (our releatives in Peru) we could dial 9 + phone number and get connected to them as a local call. And whenever any of our relatives in Peru want to call one of us here, they dial a local number and they get promp |
| 16:29.28 | CCFL_Man2 | Strom_M: can i get pots from another provider too using the same pair that connects to my exchange? |
| 16:29.53 | Strom_M | CCFL_Man2: yes; usually the PUC/PSC/FCC force the telcos to allow that |
| 16:30.02 | Qwell | PSC? |
| 16:30.12 | coppice | Strom_M: pessimism and realism aren't always easy to tell apart with telcos |
| 16:30.16 | tzafrir_home | zim, if you want a static IP set it up after the installation is over |
| 16:30.17 | Strom_M | public service commission |
| 16:30.21 | Qwell | figured |
| 16:30.22 | CCFL_Man2 | coppice: true |
| 16:30.25 | Qwell | what do they do? |
| 16:30.32 | tzafrir_home | Don't unnecessarily complicate the installation process... |
| 16:30.35 | Strom_M | Qwell: equivalent of a PUC |
| 16:30.37 | Qwell | oh |
| 16:30.43 | Qwell | do some states not have a PUC? |
| 16:30.47 | Strom_M | it's just called a PSC in some states (new york, for example) |
| 16:30.51 | Qwell | weird |
| 16:31.04 | Strom_M | but the function is the same |
| 16:31.17 | Qwell | take complaints, and never follow up on them? :) |
| 16:31.34 | zim | i can/will do it but why can't they ask "Would you like to automatical conf you network or would you like to set it up your self" |
| 16:31.47 | CCFL_Man2 | Strom_M: so my pair can be connected to my dslam, but other companies have access to it? |
| 16:31.54 | Strom_M | CCFL_Man2: yes |
| 16:32.09 | Qwell | I had to report some stuff to the PUC when I was going through the whole Verizon/Earthlink fiasco |
| 16:32.27 | zim | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:32.34 | Strom_M | Qwell: the CPUC is actually unusually competent and subscriber-oriented |
| 16:32.49 | Qwell | I never heard back from them ;/ |
| 16:32.54 | tzafrir_home | zim, you don't have to configure everything at install time |
| 16:33.11 | zim | it just makes life easy |
| 16:33.35 | tzafrir_home | there are a bunch of other questions they could have asked. Use a custom install |
| 16:33.38 | Strom_M | Qwell: *shrug* |
| 16:33.38 | zim | you dont have to build everything form source |
| 16:33.47 | zim | you can if you want |
| 16:33.58 | CCFL_Man2 | Strom_M: so my line's performance will be the same because it's using verizon's dslam, just going through a different pipe to a 3rd party adsl provider? |
| 16:34.03 | Strom_M | CCFL_Man2: yes |
| 16:34.05 | Qwell | the nice thing about huntsville, actually, is I have a choice of cable providers here |
| 16:34.06 | zim | GNU is about choosing |
| 16:34.22 | CCFL_Man2 | Strom_M: the question is, why am i still with verizon... |
| 16:34.34 | Qwell | CCFL_Man2: most people aren't aware there are alternatives |
| 16:34.38 | CCFL_Man2 | i hear speakeasy and dslxtreme kick ass |
| 16:34.55 | Qwell | I think dslextreme is a southern CA thing |
| 16:34.59 | Qwell | I could be wrong though |
| 16:35.09 | codejunky | hi, I have the following line in my extensions.conf: exten => _0.,1,Set(CALLERID (num)=1234567). If I dial asterisk shows the following error: ERROR[7098]: pbx.c:1437 ast_func_write: Function CALLERID not registered. Any ideas why it does not work? |
| 16:35.21 | Strom_M | I have eight static IPs, no port filtering, 6 megabit service...my ISP doesn't give a hoot what I do. |
| 16:35.34 | tzafrir_home | zim, in fact a server with address from DHCP is not uncommon |
| 16:35.35 | CCFL_Man2 | Qwell: i was under the assumption that unless my rboc let a 3rd party dslam in to their CO, there were no alternatives |
| 16:35.47 | CCFL_Man2 | ahh |
| 16:35.57 | tzafrir_home | You can reserve IP address if you want |
| 16:35.58 | CCFL_Man2 | Strom_M: you use dslxtreme? |
| 16:36.02 | tzafrir_home | easier to manage |
| 16:36.14 | Strom_M | CCFL_Man2: dslextreme, yes |
| 16:36.29 | CCFL_Man2 | Strom_M: kick ass, just how it should be |
| 16:36.32 | Strom_M | but I think they may be california-only |
| 16:36.32 | zim | ok let me re ask the Q how many ubuntu servers have static IPs |
| 16:36.42 | CCFL_Man2 | ahh, unfortunately |
| 16:36.54 | Wonka | codejunky: remove the space between CALLERID and ( |
| 16:36.55 | zim | anyway not that important |
| 16:37.03 | Strom_M | but there should be some equivalent in pennsylvania |
| 16:37.13 | Wonka | codejunky: there is no function "CALLERID ", but only "CALLERID" |
| 16:37.14 | CCFL_Man2 | Strom_M: epix, as far as i know |
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| 16:38.24 | Qwell | CCFL_Man2: dslr.com |
| 16:38.26 | Qwell | erm |
| 16:38.33 | Qwell | dslreports.com |
| 16:39.58 | zim | anyway I am about to install asterisk on my new box should i just use the default asterisk or add somthing to my source.list ??? |
| 16:40.25 | codejunky | Wonka: Thanks. Now I am rid of the error. Is it possible that misdn does not support to set the caller id? On my mobile phone the number I set is not shown as the caller. |
| 16:41.00 | Wonka | codejunky: maybe your telco doesn't allow you to set the callerid |
| 16:41.07 | Wonka | codejunky: i don't know if misdn does |
| 16:43.13 | codejunky | Wonka: The problem is that we have 4 numbers (german isdn) and I want to have my telephone number shown when dialing out and not the main one. |
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| 16:44.46 | elixer | Qwell: you around? |
| 16:45.02 | Qwell | yep, saw the patch |
| 16:45.07 | elixer | cool |
| 16:45.14 | elixer | happy saturday, btw. |
| 16:45.27 | elixer | mmmm |
| 16:45.29 | elixer | heh |
| 16:45.45 | Qwell | I need to go to starbucks in the near future... |
| 16:46.14 | elixer | i'm on black-eye #2 for the day already |
| 16:46.20 | elixer | don't have the shakes yet |
| 16:46.21 | Qwell | double add-shot frapacino...oh yeah... |
| 16:46.51 | elixer | frapacino? don't forget your skirt! ;-) |
| 16:46.56 | Qwell | yeah, yeah ;) |
| 16:47.15 | Qwell | I don't see the point of hot coffee, really |
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| 16:48.25 | heelios | Qwell: s'better than cold coffee. <_< |
| 16:49.50 | elixer | well what is the point of a frapacino? |
| 16:50.34 | Qwell | I can drink it without burning my tongue :p |
| 16:50.59 | elixer | heh |
| 16:51.02 | elixer | touche |
| 16:51.26 | Qwell | and if anybody says they've never burned themselves with coffee - they are lying |
| 16:51.33 | elixer | oh i've done it |
| 16:51.41 | elixer | about 3 weeks ago |
| 16:51.47 | Qwell | every 3 weeks? :) |
| 16:52.07 | elixer | went through the starbucks drive-thru, the girl handed me my large coffee and she hadn't properly secured the lid |
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| 16:52.20 | Qwell | ugh |
| 16:52.29 | elixer | throw in some blinding pain and briefly blacking out |
| 16:52.43 | elixer | and now my passenger seat floor is a lovely shade of brown |
| 16:52.44 | elixer | heh |
| 16:52.52 | Qwell | sue! |
| 16:52.57 | elixer | nah |
| 16:53.01 | elixer | i'm not one of those people |
| 16:54.49 | _x86_ | anyone use Polycom IP301 phones? |
| 16:55.19 | _x86_ | When I put people on speakerphone, I can hear them great, but they can't hear anything |
| 16:55.55 | CCFL_Man2 | Qwell: i have one cable option and two adsl options, both adsl options suck |
| 16:55.56 | _x86_ | is there a trick to turning on the mic? supposedly it supports speakerphone |
| 16:57.48 | _x86_ | CCFL_Man2: ADSL always sucks... cable rocks |
| 16:58.09 | _x86_ | SDSL is cool if you can find someone to give you some decent speeds on it :) |
| 16:59.50 | _x86_ | elixer: give me your receipt and sell me your car at FMV... then watch how _I_ handle it ;) |
| 17:00.02 | _x86_ | chaaaaaaa-ching! |
| 17:00.08 | elixer | heh |
| 17:00.14 | elixer | _x86_: god bless america |
| 17:00.18 | _x86_ | *nod* |
| 17:00.37 | _x86_ | home of the... eh... money grubbing bitches ;) |
| 17:00.48 | elixer | i'm with adam corolla. each american gets one lawsuit per lifetime. |
| 17:00.52 | elixer | so make it good. |
| 17:01.42 | _x86_ | i've never been in a court room except when i made the terrible mistake of marrying my wife, and they should have found me guilty of being a retard and thrown me in jail for it... |
| 17:01.52 | _x86_ | ;)~ |
| 17:01.53 | elixer | _x86_: still married? |
| 17:01.54 | elixer | heh |
| 17:01.58 | _x86_ | *nod* |
| 17:02.12 | elixer | well. no one is perfect. |
| 17:02.16 | _x86_ | hah |
| 17:02.29 | _x86_ | i'm a glutton for punishment i guess |
| 17:02.45 | elixer | so how do i return my local svn copy to match whats on the server? |
| 17:02.49 | elixer | just remove and re-checkout? |
| 17:02.53 | elixer | or is that an easier way? |
| 17:03.01 | elixer | s/that/there/ |
| 17:03.14 | _x86_ | svn update, or just svn up |
| 17:03.18 | _x86_ | :) |
| 17:03.33 | elixer | but that won't blow away all my local changes |
| 17:03.38 | elixer | i want to blow away my local changes |
| 17:04.05 | _x86_ | it should blow away all local changes, it's an update from the server, not a merge |
| 17:04.28 | _x86_ | alternatively, rm -rf working-copy-dir, svn co ;) |
| 17:04.31 | elixer | heh |
| 17:04.31 | elixer | right |
| 17:04.35 | elixer | i think i'll go that route |
| 17:06.27 | elixer | ahhhh |
| 17:06.27 | elixer | much better. |
| 17:09.25 | yannj_fr | Is it possible to create area and define codec to use between them? |
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| 17:11.56 | _x86_ | yannj_fr: you can specify which codec(s) you want per individual peer |
| 17:12.58 | yannj_fr | yes but I would like to define a group and use differents codec for inside and outside the groups |
| 17:13.07 | _x86_ | group of what? |
| 17:13.25 | CCFL_Man2 | x86: you have cumcast? |
| 17:13.26 | yannj_fr | of user |
| 17:13.42 | yannj_fr | my context : I have a central server for several agencies |
| 17:13.56 | yannj_fr | I would like user in the same agency (LAN) use G711 |
| 17:14.08 | yannj_fr | and between agencies G729 |
| 17:14.40 | TedNJ38 | I need help please. I am relatively new to Asterisk. I have a network of phones all over the US which have been scattered among my relatives. I want to purchase a landline in Peru so whenever any of us wants to talk to them (our releatives in Peru) we could dial 9 + phone number and get connected to them as a local call. And whenever any of our relatives in Peru want to call one of us here, they dial a local number and they get promp |
| 17:14.46 | _x86_ | CCFL_Man2: nope... Insight |
| 17:14.58 | _x86_ | CCFL_Man2: i've heard nothing but bad about cumcast |
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| 17:15.20 | _x86_ | yannj_fr: best to do that in the peer definitions |
| 17:15.58 | _x86_ | TedNJ38: sounds easy enough... what hardware do you have? |
| 17:16.18 | TedNJ38 | I have Sip Phones and I have a trixbox server. |
| 17:16.29 | TedNJ38 | I just don't know what to look for if I want to purchase the landline in Peru. |
| 17:16.32 | TedNJ38 | I don't know what they are called. |
| 17:16.41 | yannj_fr | _x86_ : but in peers definition you cannot divide in local or remote cases |
| 17:16.57 | TedNJ38 | Should I google "Trixbox Landline Peru"? |
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| 17:18.53 | _x86_ | yannj_fr: why not? you don't know if the peers are local or remote? |
| 17:19.02 | _x86_ | that doesn't make sense |
| 17:19.18 | _x86_ | TedNJ38: you have to have hardware to connect to the phone line |
| 17:19.25 | _x86_ | TedNJ38: you have a server in Peru? |
| 17:19.34 | TedNJ38 | No, the server is here. |
| 17:19.48 | _x86_ | ok, then you will not be able to get a phone line in Peru |
| 17:19.54 | TedNJ38 | But I want to know if there is any company in Peru that would sell a local phone number that would be easy to link to a VOIP Server here. |
| 17:20.00 | _x86_ | but, you can get a Peru phone number, transported over SIP |
| 17:20.06 | _x86_ | sure |
| 17:20.27 | _x86_ | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/DID+Service+Providers |
| 17:20.38 | TedNJ38 | Thanks |
| 17:22.43 | _x86_ | to call Peru, you'll also need a provider that has a PSTN route there |
| 17:22.52 | yannj_fr | _x86_: but I can just force them to use specified codec, I cannot say : G711 to call peer2 and G729 to peer3, isnt it? |
| 17:23.28 | _x86_ | yannj_fr: yes, you can |
| 17:23.45 | yannj_fr | how? |
| 17:23.56 | yannj_fr | 'sorry, I feel stupid now' |
| 17:24.10 | _x86_ | yannj_fr: [peer1] disallow=all allow=ulaw [peer2] disallow=all allow=g729 |
| 17:24.22 | yannj_fr | hum |
| 17:24.32 | _x86_ | works with both sip.conf and iax.conf |
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| 17:25.41 | yannj_fr | yeah, but I cant say for exemple : Peer1=> Peer2 : G711 Peer1=>Peer3 : G729, Peer3=>Peer2 : G729 |
| 17:25.46 | yannj_fr | for exaple |
| 17:26.01 | _x86_ | it works the same way |
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| 17:26.39 | _x86_ | setup each server to only talk whatever codec you want with the peers it is connecting to |
| 17:26.53 | _x86_ | you can even have different codecs for inbound or outbound calls |
| 17:27.15 | yannj_fr | well, this is the problem, I only have 1 server |
| 17:27.34 | spark_elite | hey, i've just setup asterisk and am working on outbound calls. I can hear my roommate perfectly on his cellphone but I'm choppy to him, we've tried a couple of codecs |
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| 17:27.39 | Sweeper | anyone want some t1 routers? |
| 17:27.42 | Sweeper | I've got 3 spannet 2500, 4 serial cards (v.35, I think), and 3 t1 cards |
| 17:30.45 | spark_elite | is there any debugging I can do to see why the outgoing data is choppy? |
| 17:30.59 | MihiNomenEst | so, my voip provider says that asterisk isn't clearing the lines fast enough. is there some sort of timeout I can set? |
| 17:35.08 | spark_elite | _x86_, any idea on debugging outgoing choppyness? |
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| 17:39.49 | Strom_M | spark_elite: what kind of connection are you on? |
| 17:40.10 | spark_elite | 8MB down and 1 MB up |
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| 17:40.22 | Strom_M | megabytes? or megabits? |
| 17:40.27 | spark_elite | bits |
| 17:40.38 | Strom_M | ok, if it's megabits, that's Mb, not MB |
| 17:40.47 | spark_elite | right |
| 17:41.04 | Strom_M | which ITSP are you using? |
| 17:41.15 | spark_elite | call with us |
| 17:41.25 | Strom_M | that's the name? "call with us"? |
| 17:41.55 | spark_elite | yea - http://www.callwithus.com/ |
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| 17:42.27 | Strom_M | uh, okie dokie... |
| 17:42.39 | Strom_M | where is their PoP in relation to you? |
| 17:43.05 | spark_elite | they have 2 servers, east and west coast, we are in DC on the east coast |
| 17:43.11 | Nugget | HoP on PoP. |
| 17:43.21 | Strom_M | right, but "east coast" is pretty vague. Where /specifically/ is it |
| 17:43.43 | spark_elite | checking...lansing michigan |
| 17:43.53 | Strom_M | yeah, that's not the coast :) |
| 17:43.57 | Strom_M | how many ms away is it? |
| 17:44.21 | spark_elite | we are getting pings of 130ish |
| 17:44.27 | Strom_M | 130?! |
| 17:44.32 | Strom_M | that's ridiculous |
| 17:44.51 | Strom_M | I can go from los angeles to new york in 80-90 |
| 17:45.16 | Strom_M | let's try this... |
| 17:45.42 | spark_elite | i just pinged google and am getting 120 avg |
| 17:46.03 | Strom_M | ping the server I just sent you in PM and tell me what kind of latency you get |
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| 18:06.22 | spark_elite | Strom_M, what was that service again, trying to find it on TEH google |
| 18:06.52 | Strom_M | teliax.com |
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| 18:28.34 | jameswf-home | greetings |
| 18:29.37 | Strom_M | sgniteerg |
| 18:30.52 | CCFL_Man2 | anyone here use an adit 600? |
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| 18:57.42 | Sweeper | what's the best way to unload some telco gear? not very popular on ebay, but I shrink from throwing them away, they still work and are useful :v |
| 18:58.02 | heelios | Sweeper: what kind of gear? |
| 18:58.22 | Sweeper | 3 spannet 2500 t1/v.35 routers |
| 18:58.41 | Sweeper | 4 t1 cards, and 4 v.35 cards |
| 18:58.52 | Sweeper | they've got 10mb ethernet interfaces |
| 18:59.36 | heelios | i see. nothing i have a use for. :s |
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| 18:59.41 | Sweeper | and 2 4port serial matrices |
| 18:59.49 | Strom_M | Sweeper: craigslist perhaps? |
| 19:09.38 | Sweeper | Strom_M: eh, local CL is pretty much dead |
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| 19:27.42 | WildPikachu | how can I escape - in AEL? |
| 19:27.52 | WildPikachu | MONITOR_FILENAME=${EXTEN:1}\-${TIMESTAMP}; |
| 19:27.55 | WildPikachu | i have that |
| 19:30.54 | daaku | i want to setup a `pass-through` of sorts to call from a US phone -> SIP line with US number in India -> regular Indian phone line - can someone nudge me in the the right direction? i'm not even sure of what to google for |
| 19:36.05 | codefreeze | WildPikachu: Set(MONITOR_FILENAME=${EXTEN:1}-${TIMESTAMP}); |
| 19:36.13 | WildPikachu | fanks man |
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| 19:38.13 | WildPikachu | hrmmm, can I setup monitoring before sending a call to the queue to record it when a person picks it out of the queue? |
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| 19:52.12 | Chunkz | Are all features that are in * available in *NOW? *NOW just has a pretty gui interface, and a minimal linux installation? |
| 19:53.05 | Chunkz | I'm pretty much a complete newbie at this point :) |
| 19:53.29 | Daviey | Chunkz: pretty much |
| 19:53.39 | mvanbaak | *NOW is a complete distro including asterisk-gui |
| 19:53.54 | mvanbaak | it's running plain asterisk, so everything is there |
| 19:54.01 | Daviey | the gui interface can be limiting, but for newbiew use; it'll get you started :) |
| 19:55.45 | Chunkz | awesome. as long as I can go "behind the scenes" to tinker a bit, I think it'll be perfect for me. Was deciding between that and a ubuntu install + * |
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| 19:59.20 | Daviey | Chunkz: asterisk + asterisk-gui + ubuntu # = same end result |
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| 20:09.23 | matt_ | hello, i'm using a linksys pap2 and i'm getting feedback and i sound quite to the remote person |
| 20:09.41 | matt_ | the feedback isn't delayed so it seems to be an issue with this device |
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| 20:38.47 | WildPikachu | shew ... renice -10 should put asterisk above most IO |
| 20:40.24 | mvanbaak | WildPikachu: yeah |
| 20:40.32 | mvanbaak | you can also use the -p flag |
| 20:40.35 | WildPikachu | must just shove in my fxo's |
| 20:40.38 | WildPikachu | ah |
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| 20:41.03 | WildPikachu | darn, i'm using safe_asterisk |
| 20:43.09 | mvanbaak | why ? |
| 20:43.20 | matt_ | i have a question |
| 20:43.24 | matt_ | if i answer a line |
| 20:43.35 | matt_ | and play a ring tone down it, does it cost the other person money ? |
| 20:43.43 | mvanbaak | yes |
| 20:43.47 | matt_ | ok |
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| 20:50.34 | Strom_M | matt_: moral of the story is don't supervise until you have to |
| 20:51.52 | matt_ | huh? |
| 20:52.44 | Strom_M | answer supervision |
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| 21:01.14 | linagee | has anyone used the IAXy S101I? does it work well? |
| 21:01.20 | linagee | (IAX2 ATA) |
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| 21:20.35 | heelios | anyone knows a good voip termination provider in europe? |
| 21:20.43 | zapp-branigan | hi , who can i select the codec to call when i call usind Dial(IAX2/user:password@ip/0${exten},120) the default password is ulaw |
| 21:20.55 | mvanbaak | heelios: 12connect, speakup |
| 21:21.08 | ManxPower | zapp-branigan: You can't. |
| 21:21.13 | ManxPower | Dial by iax.conf entry |
| 21:21.16 | heelios | thanks. |
| 21:21.35 | ManxPower | well, the codecs in [general] will be used if you dial by ip.host |
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| 21:21.47 | zapp-branigan | no i male a dial in the dial plan |
| 21:22.12 | zapp-branigan | ok |
| 21:22.27 | zapp-branigan | general del iax.cong is disable all |
| 21:22.35 | zapp-branigan | allow g729 |
| 21:22.43 | zapp-branigan | but not work |
| 21:22.57 | ManxPower | disallow=all and allow=g729 You would prolly need a G729 license for most uses of G729 |
| 21:22.59 | zapp-branigan | in the extensions i must to write this too? |
| 21:23.09 | zapp-branigan | i have licenses |
| 21:23.55 | ManxPower | Well, what is the ERROR MESSAGE |
| 21:23.57 | zapp-branigan | but in default codec in the source the codecs are ulaw alaw y linear |
| 21:24.36 | zapp-branigan | and use the defaults codecs |
| 21:24.55 | ManxPower | then you did not disallow and allow correctly. |
| 21:25.06 | ManxPower | Again, I ask. What is the error message you are receiving? |
| 21:25.14 | zapp-branigan | only in the iax.conf ? |
| 21:25.22 | ManxPower | ONLY IN iax.conf |
| 21:25.45 | ManxPower | But I cannot help you further until you tell us what the error message on the asterisk console is. |
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| 21:26.19 | zapp-branigan | unable to create transtor path from unknown to ulaw |
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| 21:26.45 | ManxPower | put a copy of your iax.conf on pastebin.ca |
| 21:26.50 | ManxPower | ~pastebin |
| 21:26.50 | jbot | somebody said pastebin was a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste, or http://rafb.net/paste/, or http://pastebin.com is usually painfully too slow and unresponsive to use, use one of the other pastebin sites, or dpaste.com is a very nice pastebin as well |
| 21:27.56 | zapp-branigan | i have the two lines |
| 21:28.08 | zapp-branigan | disallow=all |
| 21:28.13 | zapp-branigan | allow=g729 |
| 21:28.44 | ManxPower | Either do what I tell you or find someone else to help you with your problem. |
| 21:28.47 | zapp-branigan | codecpriority=host |
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| 21:50.40 | Shadowfire_ | Hello people |
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| 21:54.09 | KDan | what people |
| 21:54.12 | KDan | there are no people here |
| 21:54.17 | KDan | only long-running shell scripts |
| 21:55.01 | ManxPower | I'm a perl script, thankyouverymuch! |
| 21:55.14 | KDan | that's what YOU think! |
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| 21:55.33 | ManxPower | OMG! I've been rewritten! |
| 21:55.56 | KDan | I spoke to your parents, and they said you were from a long line of tcsh scripts |
| 21:56.40 | Nugget | heh |
| 22:01.25 | wunderkin | my godaddy vps is fucked up for the 3rd time within a couple weeks, most of the time i can ssh in, 1st time i couldnt, cant ping localhost or get to the default gw, this time i can ssh, ftp, imap in though... |
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| 22:03.43 | mvanbaak | that's why I only run on my own stuff |
| 22:04.28 | wunderkin | i wish that i could but i'm only using it for personal email and asterisk right now so even paying $30/mo for the vps is a lot |
| 22:05.07 | KDan | $30/mo?? |
| 22:05.13 | wunderkin | it has been fine for like a year or so i think, at least several months |
| 22:05.22 | KDan | wtf... about $10/m for vps-link |
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| 22:05.42 | wunderkin | probably shitty too |
| 22:06.02 | KDan | for sure, but at least it's dirt cheap |
| 22:06.43 | KDan | http://www.vpslink.com/vps-hosting/ |
| 22:08.10 | JT | godaddy being shit, how shocking ;) |
| 22:08.20 | JT | linode.com |
| 22:08.37 | JT | almost no-one has a bad word to say about their VPSes |
| 22:11.10 | mvanbaak | http://www.easyspeedy.com |
| 22:11.38 | mvanbaak | VPS == trouble |
| 22:11.43 | mvanbaak | that's my experience |
| 22:12.14 | wunderkin | nice, they are resetting it.. nice fix |
| 22:12.32 | JT | a VPS is fine for a lot of things |
| 22:12.49 | KDan | "Congratulations! We have reset your VPS. You now have a brand spanking new Debian install, fresh and clean." |
| 22:13.05 | wunderkin | no, just a 'shutdown -r now' not a reprovision... |
| 22:13.44 | wunderkin | i wonder why i would be the only person there having that problem |
| 22:14.43 | asdx | whats better than a vps |
| 22:14.49 | KDan | a dedicated server? |
| 22:14.50 | JT | i co-lo server |
| 22:14.55 | KDan | nah, colo sucks |
| 22:14.56 | JT | a |
| 22:15.02 | JT | KDan: ? |
| 22:15.13 | KDan | have to actually physically deal with the server |
| 22:15.18 | JT | oh gno! |
| 22:15.23 | KDan | better to get a dedicated server on a monthly tariff |
| 22:15.27 | heelios | KDan: colo is the most flexible option you have. |
| 22:15.31 | KDan | cheaper in the slong run |
| 22:15.31 | JT | like if you were running a real business or something! |
| 22:15.33 | KDan | *long |
| 22:15.35 | heelios | apart from building your own datacenter. <_< |
| 22:15.41 | JT | haha if you think so |
| 22:15.42 | JT | heelios: ? |
| 22:15.43 | KDan | JT: I am running a real business |
| 22:15.57 | KDan | and the last thing I want to do is have to leg it to the data centre to change a hard drive |
| 22:16.06 | heelios | AND it gets cheaper in the long run. |
| 22:16.23 | JT | not a big problem if the datacentre is in the same city |
| 22:16.31 | wunderkin | heh |
| 22:16.38 | KDan | even in the same city |
| 22:16.44 | KDan | on top of it, colo is way more expensive |
| 22:16.50 | wunderkin | well linode.com is in he.net fremont so thats cool, wonder how i know which one i will be setup on though |
| 22:16.50 | JT | not really |
| 22:16.56 | KDan | in london it is |
| 22:17.07 | KDan | unless you have lots of servers to begin with |
| 22:17.12 | JT | wunderkin: you can lodge a support ticket to have it moved to fremont |
| 22:17.27 | JT | maybe you're just getting the wrong prices |
| 22:17.53 | JT | but yeah, i don't want to use the crappy dedicated servers that hosts get for their customers if i can avoid it |
| 22:18.04 | KDan | nah. 1U was a ripoff (price of a cheap dedicated server basically) and quarter-racks were very expensive |
| 22:18.15 | wunderkin | JT, yeah thanks, i will take a look at them, i just saw their irc support on their webpage now.. |
| 22:18.41 | JT | wunderkin: everything provisiong automatically/via their webpage, it's pretty neat |
| 22:18.44 | KDan | JT: serverbeach seem to work fine for us. cheap, good, etc. |
| 22:18.45 | JT | KDan: how much? |
| 22:18.59 | JT | for 1RU |
| 22:19.00 | KDan | can't remember now, but in the region of £40 iirc |
| 22:19.07 | KDan | /month |
| 22:20.17 | JT | for how much data |
| 22:21.54 | KDan | data was not even included :-~ |
| 22:21.57 | KDan | :-| |
| 22:22.17 | JT | it could still be economical depending on the price of data |
| 22:22.26 | JT | obviously rack space gets a lot cheaper the more you get |
| 22:22.43 | KDan | well, on ServerBeach we got a dedicated server with 2000 GB of bandwidth for $120/month |
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| 22:22.58 | JT | yeah oversold to all hell |
| 22:23.27 | heelios | i have to say that sounds shady. <_< |
| 22:24.16 | JT | i don't think i'll take hosting advice from KDan, with recommendations like that ;) |
| 22:24.21 | KDan | have not had any bandwidth issues on SB |
| 22:24.33 | JT | not yet |
| 22:24.38 | JT | but it's a possibility, for sure |
| 22:24.42 | KDan | been with them for 3 months |
| 22:24.47 | KDan | so far so good |
| 22:25.38 | JT | you've got to realise that 2TB is bs |
| 22:25.56 | JT | if everyone downloads/uploads 2TB it will probably catch fire |
| 22:25.57 | KDan | of course i do. All I care about is "it won't run out and it's fast" |
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| 22:26.12 | KDan | overselling is part of business |
| 22:26.24 | JT | some business. |
| 22:26.25 | KDan | i have no issues with it so long as the quality remains good |
| 22:26.40 | JT | and you don't know how crappy the machine is |
| 22:26.46 | JT | if it has any redundancy at all |
| 22:26.47 | KDan | i'd say it's bad business not to sell the same thing twice if you can! |
| 22:27.06 | JT | depends if you're after quality or a cheap buck |
| 22:27.10 | KDan | it has more redundancy than it would have if i had had to scrape it together myself! |
| 22:27.45 | KDan | considering they also host youtube and are owned by Peer1 (fairly large peering network), I think they offer both quality and good prices |
| 22:27.55 | KDan | anyway, enough with this discussion |
| 22:27.56 | KDan | got work to do |
| 22:28.00 | JT | enough? |
| 22:28.07 | *** join/#asterisk d-tech (n=d-dtech@72.245.233.107) |
| 22:28.11 | JT | i don't think one single provider hosts youtube |
| 22:28.26 | KDan | these guys sure claim to do so |
| 22:28.39 | JT | and i will stick with proper co-location for important stuff |
| 22:28.48 | JT | being able to access my servers is essential too |
| 22:28.50 | KDan | outsourcing is the future |
| 22:28.55 | KDan | get on with it -- or die |
| 22:28.56 | JT | as well as having full control for my network |
| 22:29.01 | *** join/#asterisk bminish (n=bminish@brenbox.westnet.ie) |
| 22:29.02 | JT | i don't just do web pages |
| 22:29.09 | KDan | me neither |
| 22:29.15 | JT | stop talking like a retard with brainwash braindamage |
| 22:29.25 | JT | outsource, ONLY if it makes sense |
| 22:29.26 | WilliamK | 11 bgp peers for youtube.com |
| 22:31.21 | JT | dedicated servers make no sense for anything more advanced than a couple of web pages |
| 22:31.24 | d-tech | I'm feelin pretty stupid here ... I'm attekpting to add a channel driver to asterisk ... the driver install package says it can't locate the 'kernel source directory' and is asking ME for it ... can anyone give me a clue? I'll pass it on to the stupid install script <vbg> |
| 22:31.46 | heelios | d-tech: what distro? |
| 22:31.56 | JT | d-tech: make sure the kernel sources and header files are installed |
| 22:32.01 | zapp-branigan | hi |
| 22:32.10 | d-tech | CentOS ... if i'm reading your question right? |
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| 22:33.01 | heelios | d-tech: you are. |
| 22:33.17 | heelios | d-tech: im not familiar with it, but try # up2date --get-source kernel |
| 22:33.33 | WilliamK | heelios, it's the same as Redhat Enterprise 4 |
| 22:33.44 | d-tech | thanks JT ... your probably 100% correct ... but you might as well be speaking chinese |
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| 22:34.33 | d-tech | Yes, I believe WilliamK is correct |
| 22:34.53 | WilliamK | d-tech: type this.... rpm -qa | grep kernel |
| 22:35.00 | JT | it's based off RHEL, and is not supported by redhat |
| 22:35.03 | WilliamK | make sure your kernel sources are installed |
| 22:35.24 | harryr | anybody tried Skype business edition? |
| 22:36.11 | *** part/#asterisk bminish (n=bminish@brenbox.westnet.ie) |
| 22:36.21 | JT | wrong channel for skype ;) |
| 22:36.37 | heelios | harryr: i dont think i ever will. <_< |
| 22:36.38 | WilliamK | d-tech, you should have 5 lines that get printed to your screen |
| 22:36.59 | harryr | heelios: I mean the concept |
| 22:37.14 | d-tech | <WilliamK> make sure your kernel sources are installed ---- I would LOVE TO ... but I haven't a clue WHAT that means, much less, how to?? |
| 22:37.23 | harryr | I was going to knockup something very similar - absolute minimal business orientated VoIp |
| 22:37.26 | WilliamK | d-tech, can't copy and paste? |
| 22:37.28 | harryr | but based on asterisk or yate |
| 22:37.34 | WilliamK | that's the exact command |
| 22:37.44 | JT | harryr: you'd probably want a sip proxy too |
| 22:38.04 | harryr | JT: for chat? |
| 22:38.16 | JT | to load balance |
| 22:38.31 | harryr | JT: we're talking 2-50 users on a LAN |
| 22:38.32 | d-tech | oh ... missed the command ...lemme try ..brb |
| 22:38.40 | JT | oh ok |
| 22:38.43 | harryr | JT: with chat, local calling and outbound calling |
| 22:38.54 | harryr | and an uber simple control panel |
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| 22:40.59 | d-tech | two items kernel-xxx & kernel-utils-xxx |
| 22:41.13 | JT | it says xxx? |
| 22:41.26 | d-tech | no ... a long version number |
| 22:41.28 | harryr | hardcore kernel? |
| 22:41.31 | harryr | oh |
| 22:41.34 | wunderkin | ROFL, look at this response about my godaddy vps problem: Thank you for contacting hosting support. We had to reboot the server in order to restore external internet access. It is likely the issue you are having is a direct result of the Asterisk software on your server. Typically, our Virtual Dedicated servers will not reliably support VoIP. Dedicated servers can be configured to support VoIP, but we are unable to assist with any trou |
| 22:42.03 | JT | wunderkin: most VPSes are useless for VoIP especially asterisk |
| 22:42.08 | famicon | wunderkin |
| 22:42.10 | harryr | wunderkin: aha, ok that's godaddy blacklisted |
| 22:42.13 | famicon | www.easyvpshost.com |
| 22:42.15 | famicon | use that |
| 22:42.20 | JT | UML especially |
| 22:42.22 | JT | ugh |
| 22:42.23 | harryr | JT: we've got something like 500+ VPS instances running Asterisk |
| 22:42.27 | famicon | yeah |
| 22:42.37 | harryr | JT: and no problems at all |
| 22:42.43 | JT | if you wanst to do asterisk, use real hardware or Xen or KVM |
| 22:42.43 | famicon | wunderkin if you sign up there ill give you 2 months off |
| 22:42.45 | JT | not UML |
| 22:42.53 | wunderkin | i understand that part, but it has been working fine for almost a year, asterisk is not causing the problem, i understand how a vps works and voip, i got that part, but asterisk does not cause the fucking vps to not even be able to ping localhost |
| 22:42.53 | harryr | JT: we're using Linux VServer |
| 22:42.56 | famicon | godaddy is bullshit anyways |
| 22:43.18 | wunderkin | and no im not using a firewall |
| 22:43.23 | JT | harryr: whatever that is :) |
| 22:43.25 | d-tech | I'm guessing the first one is the one your looking for --- kernel-2.6.9-34.0.2.EL |
| 22:43.33 | famicon | yeah the moment you cant ping localhost |
| 22:43.37 | famicon | is when you got a problem |
| 22:43.38 | famicon | wunderkin |
| 22:43.41 | harryr | JT: it's like KVM, but more mature |
| 22:43.46 | famicon | check if you can upgrade the kernel |
| 22:43.47 | famicon | if not |
| 22:43.50 | famicon | ask for a refund |
| 22:43.52 | JT | more proprietary? |
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| 22:43.56 | famicon | and tell then that you wanted a VPS |
| 22:43.58 | famicon | not a chroot |
| 22:44.00 | harryr | JT: no, completely opensource |
| 22:44.06 | JT | ah ok |
| 22:44.23 | harryr | it's not in the kernel trunk though, but is well maintained and up to date |
| 22:44.43 | wunderkin | famicon, yeah.. no kidding.. it is on FC4.. but has been fine for a long time, i'm trying to decide if i want to ditch vps altogether and just use a WRT with asterisk at home, shrug |
| 22:44.44 | Daviey | Anybody here using ztdummy in a VPS? |
| 22:44.55 | famicon | wunderkin eh |
| 22:45.01 | harryr | Daviey: not.. in a VPS, but yeah |
| 22:45.06 | famicon | just go for my services ;) |
| 22:45.10 | famicon | i got fc 6 |
| 22:45.16 | famicon | and centos 5 |
| 22:45.17 | wunderkin | i would have to figure out something else for my mail and stuff though :/ |
| 22:45.26 | JT | debian pls kthx |
| 22:45.32 | harryr | gentoo kthx |
| 22:45.33 | Daviey | famicon: eh? |
| 22:45.33 | wunderkin | kplzthx! |
| 22:45.39 | famicon | JT i got etch |
| 22:45.41 | famicon | and sarge |
| 22:45.42 | Daviey | famicon: are you using ztdummy in a vps? |
| 22:45.45 | famicon | gentoo 2006 too |
| 22:46.04 | JT | famicon: what virtualisation scheme? |
| 22:46.06 | famicon | Daviey havent tried |
| 22:46.09 | famicon | jt Xen |
| 22:46.15 | Daviey | famicon: try.. it's fun |
| 22:46.23 | famicon | Daviey whats the problem? |
| 22:46.34 | wunderkin | famicon, you aren't even in the us :D |
| 22:46.39 | JT | famicon: is it that hard to put a : after peoples' names? ;) |
| 22:46.42 | famicon | yeah I'm in amserdam |
| 22:46.43 | Daviey | famicon: it's a PITA to compile, then won't modprobe |
| 22:46.59 | famicon | Daviey never had that problem |
| 22:47.08 | Daviey | famicon: but you've never tried ffs |
| 22:47.09 | famicon | you can modprobe with xen you know |
| 22:47.14 | harryr | Daviey: in zen/vmware etc.? |
| 22:47.22 | Daviey | famicon: I know.. |
| 22:47.23 | famicon | Daviey I have had problems with that before |
| 22:47.28 | harryr | or in something like vserver, openvz etc. |
| 22:47.30 | Daviey | famicon: but you haven't tried! |
| 22:47.45 | Daviey | 22:46 < famicon> Daviey havent tried |
| 22:47.56 | famicon | Daviey yeah buti know you can load kernel modules |
| 22:47.57 | JT | i hope your version string is fake, famicon |
| 22:48.05 | Daviey | famicon: try it.. trust me |
| 22:48.17 | famicon | Daviey i bet it works |
| 22:48.22 | Daviey | famicon: go on |
| 22:48.31 | JT | what a stupid bet to make when you haven't even tried |
| 22:48.33 | famicon | 2 bucks it does |
| 22:48.37 | Daviey | famicon: deal |
| 22:48.42 | JT | what a professional host... |
| 22:49.07 | Daviey | famicon: i'm talking about, "Just Works"TM -- with no access to Dom0 |
| 22:49.17 | famicon | Daviey oh..... |
| 22:49.26 | Daviey | but heck.. try it anyway |
| 22:49.37 | Daviey | $2 is worth the giggle |
| 22:49.40 | famicon | right now im kinda busy rewriting an xml parser |
| 22:49.58 | JT | but never too busy to spam irc |
| 22:50.00 | Daviey | Surely it's an easy two buck <grin> |
| 22:50.15 | famicon | jt yeah, cause im waiting for something to be done compilin |
| 22:50.25 | JT | JT: |
| 22:50.35 | JT | is it really that hard to attention remarks properly?? |
| 22:50.47 | Daviey | JT clearly ;) |
| 22:50.48 | famicon | is it that hard not to be a complete douche? |
| 22:50.58 | JT | famicon: fuck off |
| 22:51.05 | JT | you're the one spamming your crap here |
| 22:51.07 | Corydon76-home | Settle down |
| 22:51.10 | JT | making stupid untested claims |
| 22:51.17 | famicon | dude, it was toungue in cheeck |
| 22:51.19 | JT | and not understanding how to use irc correctly |
| 22:51.24 | JT | sure it was |
| 22:51.42 | famicon | dude i get like 0 sales off irc |
| 22:51.49 | JT | i can see why |
| 22:51.52 | Daviey | so why bother spamming? |
| 22:52.14 | Corydon76-home | Daviey: It's not spamming if he's a regular here and isn't doing it repeatedly |
| 22:52.31 | Daviey | Corydon76-home: well miss-selling is spam IMO |
| 22:52.37 | famicon | dude, i said, i have hosting that does support it, here's extra discount |
| 22:52.44 | JT | i don't think he's much of a regular |
| 22:52.49 | famicon | i wasnt going GET CH34P V14GR4 |
| 22:52.50 | Corydon76-home | famicon: let it go, please |
| 22:53.03 | JT | you hadn't tested if compiling ztdummy even worked |
| 22:53.07 | famicon | Corydon76-home yeah, good call |
| 22:53.13 | famicon | this isnt worth arguing |
| 22:53.18 | Daviey | but happy to sell your services saying it does |
| 22:53.52 | famicon | i dont see why it wouldnt compile |
| 22:54.04 | Corydon76-home | famicon: because it's a kernel module |
| 22:54.18 | Daviey | *cough* http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=9592 |
| 22:54.20 | famicon | yeah, but i have compiled kernel modules before so i dont see why this one wouldnt work |
| 22:54.22 | Corydon76-home | and you can't load kernel modules on virtual machines |
| 22:54.33 | JT | Corydon76-home: you can on some |
| 22:54.39 | Daviey | famicon: Does xen support hardware kernel modules? :D |
| 22:54.39 | famicon | ah |
| 22:54.54 | famicon | Daviey if theyre enabled on the dom0 yes |
| 22:54.58 | Corydon76-home | JT: only for very specific purposes |
| 22:55.08 | Daviey | Corydon76-home: kernel modules that don't need hw access can load |
| 22:55.25 | Corydon76-home | Daviey: right, well, ztdummy does access hardware... |
| 22:55.27 | famicon | and if it wouldnt work i would just make sure it gets installed on one dom0 |
| 22:55.37 | Daviey | Corydon76-home: hence why i raised it |
| 22:57.42 | wunderkin | i wonder if my vps problem could be from some kind of asterisk exploit, i'm running on old 1.2... this only started a month or so ago, i'm running asterisk as root (yeah, i know), maybe it is just causing different problems from the exploit because it is running in the vps..? |
| 22:58.03 | famicon | wunderkin aye |
| 22:58.06 | famicon | thats not too smart |
| 22:58.12 | famicon | what distro are you using |
| 22:58.22 | Corydon76-home | wunderkin: well, we have had a few vulnerabilities... |
| 22:58.23 | harryr | it's sort of "im driving my car drunk with a blindfold on.. WTF IS WRONG!" |
| 22:58.30 | harryr | ;) |
| 22:58.41 | wunderkin | peekeyboo |
| 22:58.42 | kiscokid | what is vps? |
| 22:58.51 | harryr | kiscokid: virtual private server |
| 22:59.01 | WilliamK | harryr, better hope the road is straight and your steering wheel doesn't move :) |
| 22:59.07 | harryr | kiscokid: a virtualized environment to allow multiple instances of linux to run on the same server |
| 22:59.17 | wunderkin | the vps host (?) is fc4, that should be upgraded too... they only offer up to fc6 |
| 22:59.17 | WilliamK | oh and your tires are aligned properly |
| 22:59.18 | WilliamK | :) |
| 22:59.28 | harryr | WilliamK: or you're sationary and everything else is moving around you |
| 22:59.32 | harryr | :) |
| 22:59.42 | kiscokid | harryr: thanks. where do you get it? |
| 23:00.06 | WilliamK | assuming you want to live, sure! |
| 23:00.07 | WilliamK | :) |
| 23:00.15 | harryr | kiscokid: vmware, linux vserver, openvz, xen.. there are lots of solutions out there which differ slightly which all provide the same sort of thing |
| 23:00.24 | harryr | WilliamK: or you're just hallucinating it all |
| 23:00.24 | wunderkin | i'm not too keen on updating the os since they will nuke all of my stuff |
| 23:00.30 | kiscokid | harryr: thanks |
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| 23:00.59 | WilliamK | d-tech, if you're still there.. you're missing some files... what ver of CentOs are you running? |
| 23:01.02 | harryr | WilliamK: I once went for a drive in a broken car that was sitting in a barn |
| 23:01.18 | WilliamK | harryr, sounds very interesting |
| 23:01.30 | WilliamK | but not something I have done nor plan to do :) |
| 23:01.33 | harryr | WilliamK: 6 people in the car beatboxing the jungle brothers, all extremely high |
| 23:01.44 | harryr | you probably shouldn't plan to either :) |
| 23:02.24 | VJFROMGT | hello all, I am looking for someone to write a little script for my cdr to log IP from the call data (I need to know where every extension is calling from) |
| 23:02.29 | VJFROMGT | willing to pay |
| 23:03.04 | yannj_fr | VJFROMGT : you me caller ip? |
| 23:03.07 | yannj_fr | meant* |
| 23:03.16 | VJFROMGT | yes |
| 23:03.28 | VJFROMGT | callers (extensions) call out via my asterisk |
| 23:03.39 | yannj_fr | could it bea solution to record it as account code? |
| 23:04.02 | VJFROMGT | yannj,, i am not clear |
| 23:04.40 | harryr | VJFROMGT: what do you have in-place so far? |
| 23:04.42 | VJFROMGT | jst one thing,, extension do not have username or passw . so they athenticate solely by ip |
| 23:04.51 | yannj_fr | I meant if the ip is recorded in account code is it ok for you? |
| 23:04.58 | VJFROMGT | harry, the Areski CDR is in place |
| 23:05.03 | harryr | VJFROMGT: you can filter ${SIP_HEADER(FROM)} and get the IP from there |
| 23:05.28 | VJFROMGT | harry,, i know that can be done, i have zero programming skills, i want to pay someone to do it |
| 23:05.37 | harryr | ah ok |
| 23:05.46 | harryr | is it ok if the programmer is drunk and you have paypal? |
| 23:05.46 | VJFROMGT | up for the chanlenge? |
| 23:05.49 | harryr | if so I'm your man |
| 23:05.56 | harryr | :) |
| 23:06.04 | VJFROMGT | as long as he can get the job done, pm me |
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| 23:06.09 | harryr | ah |
| 23:07.07 | yannj_fr | exten => s,1,Set(CDR(accountcode)=8675309) |
| 23:07.43 | yannj_fr | VJFROMGT, the thing you need is to add a field with caller ip address, am I wrong? |
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| 23:12.52 | mvanbaak | I'm off |
| 23:12.55 | mvanbaak | latero all |
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| 23:14.47 | yannj_fr | byebye |
| 23:21.21 | harryr | I'm suprised Asterisk doesn't log the from ip address to begin with |
| 23:21.37 | *** join/#asterisk rlama (n=rlama@193.252.229.22) |
| 23:21.40 | harryr | actually, mind you we don't do that either :\ |
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| 23:27.30 | ManxPower | harryr: because many calls asterisk handles are not IP calls. |
| 23:27.41 | ManxPower | stop being voip-centric. Asterisk is a multi protocol PBX |
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| 23:29.04 | harryr | ManxPower: ah fair enough |
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| 23:29.54 | ManxPower | exten => s is never matched for a voip call, btw. |
| 23:30.06 | ManxPower | except in very specific and unusual situations |
| 23:30.14 | harryr | it's not..! |
| 23:30.32 | harryr | are you sure? because I've used it many times with VoIP calls |
| 23:30.45 | ManxPower | "s" is matched when Asterisk does not know the dialed number. |
| 23:31.04 | harryr | I thought s was matched whenever the context was entered, regardless of the dialed number |
| 23:31.08 | ManxPower | If in VoIP calls, asterisk normally knows the dialed number. |
| 23:31.13 | ManxPower | harryr: NO THAT IS NOT TRUE!!!!!! |
| 23:31.18 | ManxPower | I wish people would stop thinking that. |
| 23:31.30 | harryr | oh right, I see now |
| 23:31.36 | ManxPower | where did you get that horrible mis information? |
| 23:31.53 | harryr | uh, I inherited it from the company I work at |
| 23:32.08 | harryr | yeah I see now reading he docs |
| 23:32.13 | ManxPower | Generally Asterisk does not receive the dialed number on analog FXO ports and T-1 channels that are FXO signalled. |
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| 23:32.26 | ManxPower | and ONLY in those situations. |
| 23:32.32 | ManxPower | Oh, and macros |
| 23:33.34 | harryr | well that's yet another asterisk myth crushed |
| 23:33.54 | WildPikachu | i thought fxo's supported caller id? |
| 23:34.00 | harryr | why isn't it called "u" (unknown) instead of "s" (which I presumed, "start") |
| 23:34.00 | ManxPower | harryr: no, it comes back like bad one-night stand. |
| 23:34.13 | ManxPower | WildPikachu: callerid IS NOT the dialed number. |
| 23:34.17 | ManxPower | it is the CALLING number. |
| 23:34.19 | harryr | I've always been too drunk to remember :\ |
| 23:34.22 | WildPikachu | argh, my bad |
| 23:34.30 | ManxPower | harryr: I think it should be named "none" |
| 23:34.36 | harryr | ah |
| 23:34.40 | WildPikachu | sorry, i must go to bed now ... heh, can't even keep awake, now i'm making silly mistakes |
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| 23:40.38 | Daviey | famicon: When you need my paypal details.. just ask ;) |
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