| 00:02.28 | [TK]D-Fender | ~ygwypf |
| 00:02.29 | jbot | methinks ygwypf is You Get What You Pay For. If the sole factor in your decision to purchase a product or service is that it's cheaper than everything else out there, don't be surprised if it's also worse in every other respect than everything else out there. |
| 00:02.33 | ovnicraft | but ti will work or not |
| 00:02.43 | [TK]D-Fender | ovnicraft, You you POSSESS it? |
| 00:02.52 | [TK]D-Fender | Do* |
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| 00:07.06 | ovnicraft | NO i want to buy one, and i wnat to know if is a good idea |
| 00:07.32 | crimethinker | No, it's not a good idea. Buy a tdm11b instead. |
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| 00:42.07 | nohop | i just just found out something strange... i was looking at firewalling options and stuff, because on outbound calls the 'other' side couldn't hear me (i'm talking SIP phone here)... now i just found out there IS sound for about half a second before it dies... |
| 00:56.29 | nohop | ... and now it actually worked for a couple of seconds before dying... which doesn't happen if i connect to my the sip server directly with my softphone, but does when asterisk is 'in between' then |
| 00:56.31 | nohop | them |
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| 01:05.30 | asdx | damn, me and many people cant use voip, etc in this country :/ http://www.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fanteriores.lanacion.com.py%2Fnoticia-162455-2007%2F06%2F26.htm&langpair=es%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF8 |
| 01:06.13 | asdx | is there a way to by-pass that? |
| 01:06.24 | crimethinker | satellite |
| 01:09.04 | nohop | heh.. |
| 01:09.08 | nohop | my provider does that too |
| 01:09.24 | nohop | that's why i'm routing my SIP packages over a pptp tunnel |
| 01:14.08 | asdx | i heard you can also route the packages to a vpn tunel, will that work? |
| 01:14.21 | asdx | tunnel* |
| 01:14.53 | dc3aes | what really bites the most w/ ISP/SIP/IAX blocking issues.. is the fact that I actually have to wonder if im being blocked, and that if I were I would not be surprised.. sort of sick |
| 01:15.13 | dc3aes | rather "interfered with" than blocked I should clarify |
| 01:15.15 | asdx | yeah |
| 01:15.53 | asdx | the thing is that all isps goes throw a big telephone company here, and the telephone company is the one that blocks everything... so all the isps can't use SIP/IAX, etc |
| 01:16.19 | dc3aes | ive got a pretty tight setup here w/ 8mbps broadband with the last docsis modem, new house, commercial area.. and the conversations are all good but ever 20 minutes or so it goes to hell for a few minutes.. so IAX outbound calls cannot be made professionaly |
| 01:16.51 | dc3aes | asdx, a vpn tunnel is effectively a pptp... in fact pptp = type of vpn |
| 01:17.16 | dc3aes | vpn can be encrypted.. most people assume that if its a vpn, its encrypted.. I could be wrong on this but from what I understand, vpn does not imply encryption |
| 01:17.32 | dc3aes | at least they couldnt analyze packet headers, and detect encapsulated SIP/IAX traffic |
| 01:18.15 | nohop | but you'd need some point to tunnel to |
| 01:18.33 | dc3aes | our broadband company (Shaw Cable western canada) has a professional internet telephone product.. it has its own modem, backup battery, etc.. in it. It plugs directly into the COAX instead of your LAN.. they have mental control over their own telephony now |
| 01:19.07 | dc3aes | nohop, i have a rack server in a datacenter with huge bandwidth.. im considering having it as an endpoint, at least for experimenting to see if its not just 'voip being tampered with' |
| 01:19.15 | dc3aes | they screw with our torrents, this is confirmed 100% |
| 01:19.52 | nohop | ahhh, i fixed my no-sound problem |
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| 01:19.59 | crimethinker | and people mock me for purchasing commercial internet service in my house. |
| 01:20.27 | dc3aes | hehe i would if i could afford it |
| 01:20.46 | crimethinker | sounds like you afforded a new house. |
| 01:20.50 | asdx | dc3aes: i see |
| 01:20.53 | dc3aes | im renting a "newer" house :P |
| 01:21.01 | crimethinker | k |
| 01:21.04 | dc3aes | that point was only to imply new wiring, etc.. |
| 01:23.01 | dc3aes | i almost wonder if the fed govt. doesnt have a program in place for archiving sip traffic already for echelon-like reasons lol |
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| 01:25.57 | polerin | dc3aes: if nothing else I bet they are doing basic metadata stuff :) |
| 01:26.03 | nohop | i signed up with secureix... they do tunneling for pretty little money |
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| 01:27.12 | dc3aes | nohop, any indication as to its effect? |
| 01:27.30 | nohop | what do you mean by that / |
| 01:28.18 | dc3aes | well.. have you had a chance to test it, and did it dramatically change call quality? |
| 01:28.59 | nohop | no, cause my ISP actually only blocks the SIP packets... |
| 01:29.25 | nohop | so i only route THOSE through the tunnel... the actual audio still uses my 'default gateway' |
| 01:30.01 | dc3aes | ahh.. |
| 01:30.12 | dc3aes | wild |
| 01:30.29 | nohop | was some fiddling around to get that working with asterisk, but that's fine now... |
| 01:30.51 | dc3aes | its just amazing.. its like a car company selling you a car and saying well.. you cant drive it on the following roads, because well we operate a train station there so you should instead ride our trains hahaha |
| 01:31.00 | nohop | how do i tell asterisk that i want my SIP phones to authenticate to my asterisk server in order to let them be able to make outbound calls ? |
| 01:31.09 | nohop | dc3aes: exactly... |
| 01:31.26 | nohop | i called my isp about it... and they just DENIED they were blocking any ports... |
| 01:31.27 | dc3aes | nohop, no idea on the sip authentication yet .. |
| 01:31.40 | nohop | i was like "but... i have nmap output saying FILTERED here, right in front of me!" |
| 01:31.56 | dc3aes | where is this nohop? |
| 01:31.56 | nohop | and he just said it's not true, cause he asked he co-worker, and he said so. period. |
| 01:32.07 | nohop | i'm in holland |
| 01:32.13 | nohop | where shit like that should NOT happen :) |
| 01:43.58 | `Sean | guys is there any reason i should be getting this error because of Jun 30 21:44:52 NOTICE[19748]: chan_sip.c:3716 process_sdp: No compatible codecs! |
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| 01:46.59 | rvhi0 | anyone uses RAGI? ruby agi? seems interesting, but not updated for more than 2 years |
| 01:52.40 | mihinomenest | that seems pretty common. |
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| 01:57.45 | polerin | hmm |
| 01:57.49 | nohop | if i want my sip phones to authenticate... would that mean that i would have to declare each one of them once as peer, and once as user? instead of just friend ? |
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| 02:07.30 | littleball | hello, i try to destroy a zap channel. example, after i run zap destroy channel 63, how to get it back? |
| 02:08.48 | JT | ThoMe: yes, bristuff is isdn bri, exactly what it sounds like |
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| 02:15.02 | OloBola | I updated asterisk and now it won't start |
| 02:16.04 | littleball | hello, i found that some of my E1 channels the zap PRI Flags is always in Call status even after call hangup. And these channels cannot be used anymore until restart asterisk. who can give me suggestions? |
| 02:16.23 | littleball | zap show channel xxx |
| 02:22.23 | [TK]D-Fender | littleball, You should never use "destroy channel". Only way to get it back is to reload Zaptel |
| 02:23.03 | [TK]D-Fender | littleball, thats a way to nuke out a channel "live". You should use "sof hangup [channel]" to end calls. |
| 02:24.41 | OloBola | is anyone willing to ssh into my machine and upgrade from fedora 4 to 5, get asterisk running again (it was running fine before updating today) ? I can paypal for the help. |
| 02:26.02 | littleball | <[TK]D-Fender, my issue is to find out why the PRI Flags: Call |
| 02:26.09 | littleball | even after the call hangup. |
| 02:27.01 | [TK]D-Fender | OloBola, Doesn't yum update bring you effectively up to dat automatically? |
| 02:28.21 | Tako-san | Can you "yum update" from CentOS 4 to 5? If so I am curious how to do that. |
| 02:29.05 | OloBola | yum is not working for some reason. I think I screwed up yum.conf. |
| 02:30.23 | nohop | ahhhh |
| 02:30.32 | nohop | i got all the asterisk stuff working, finally |
| 02:32.35 | nohop | thanks once more for all the help, [TK]D-Fender before, and shido6 :) |
| 02:32.47 | littleball | hi, what will happen if there is an error in the dialplan? which extension will jump to? |
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| 02:33.17 | littleball | example, exten=>s,n,SayNumber(${allowedminutes}), if i forget to set the allowedminutes |
| 02:33.33 | [TK]D-Fender | OloBola, Aren't they at Fedora 7 yet anyways? Sounds like a stop-gap. What is the purpose of your "upgrade"? |
| 02:34.09 | [TK]D-Fender | littleball, it'll hang up, and no, you won't really know why. You missed theis conversation earlier |
| 02:35.28 | littleball | [TK]D-Fender, total new question: what will happen if there is an error in the dialplan? which extension will jump to? |
| 02:36.20 | [TK]D-Fender | littleball, I think I heard that it might trigger "h" |
| 02:36.59 | littleball | hangup? hm.... does it hangup the channel if "h" doesnot do this? |
| 02:37.10 | nohop | i guess now it's time to add neat lil tricks to my config :) |
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| 02:37.41 | nohop | are there scripts or whatever available that can make asterisk act as a modem ? |
| 02:39.10 | rvhi0 | i'd like to run a fastagi server. what's a good one? |
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| 02:41.21 | [TK]D-Fender | littleball, if your app call fails the channel will terminate. |
| 02:41.44 | [TK]D-Fender | nohop, lookup "zapras" on the wiki |
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| 02:42.19 | BSD_Tech | hey |
| 02:42.30 | BSD_Tech | anyone know what happen to IAXTEL |
| 02:42.45 | BSD_Tech | for a month now the website has ben gone |
| 02:42.50 | BSD_Tech | and no service |
| 02:43.36 | littleball | [TK]D-Fender, i need to know exactly what happend on (1)app fail, (2)hangup cmd explicitely called, (3) h extension. example, if one of app fail, will it jump to h extension? before jumping, does the system called hangup() internally? |
| 02:43.54 | littleball | or i need to call hangup() in the h extension |
| 02:43.57 | littleball | ? |
| 02:44.04 | BSD_Tech | watch the cli for output |
| 02:44.05 | [TK]D-Fender | littleball, Ok, first.... download the * source.... then completely REWRITE IT. |
| 02:44.08 | [TK]D-Fender | ~wglwat |
| 02:44.09 | jbot | from memory, wglwat is well, good luck with all that |
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| 02:44.32 | rue_mohr | anyone know where there is a guide to setting gains in a system with a lot of them? |
| 02:44.44 | [TK]D-Fender | littleball, * will kill the call, and no it wasn't designed to give you any details. |
| 02:45.09 | [TK]D-Fender | rue_mohr, Setting gains is not a normal thing. I can imagine no such doc. |
| 02:45.18 | samarora | hi TK-D, I need your help regarding connecting two asterisk server. |
| 02:45.20 | [TK]D-Fender | BSD_Tech, Hey, just the guy! |
| 02:45.29 | rue_mohr | erm |
| 02:45.33 | BSD_Tech | What did I do |
| 02:45.40 | [TK]D-Fender | BSD_Tech, Got that bit of time to assist with regards to my Adesso USB KB? |
| 02:45.49 | BSD_Tech | I am still fixing dial plan issues |
| 02:45.50 | rue_mohr | but I have gins in the fxo card, asterisk, and the fxs card |
| 02:46.00 | BSD_Tech | sure |
| 02:46.10 | rue_mohr | I think there are a few more... in the channelbank for hte T1 er something |
| 02:46.11 | samarora | i wannt to share dial plan of the two different * servers... |
| 02:46.13 | BSD_Tech | give me 5 min |
| 02:46.13 | [TK]D-Fender | BSD_Tech, Ok, let me pull it out and plug it in. |
| 02:46.18 | [TK]D-Fender | BSD_Tech, np |
| 02:46.26 | BSD_Tech | have to go to the bathroom |
| 02:46.30 | BSD_Tech | brb |
| 02:46.51 | [TK]D-Fender | samarora, lookup "asterisk dual servers" on the WIKI, and lookup the "switch" dialplan operator. |
| 02:47.02 | [TK]D-Fender | rue_mohr, sounds ugly... |
| 02:47.02 | rue_mohr | http://about.telus.com/publicpolicy/bics_bc/main.html << interesting for anyone who wants to know |
| 02:47.08 | rue_mohr | I have problems |
| 02:47.19 | samarora | i gone through but having some problem ... |
| 02:47.27 | samarora | can u suggest any more documentation |
| 02:47.29 | rue_mohr | the least of which being cbc being picked up when the fxo card picks up |
| 02:49.03 | [TK]D-Fender | samarora, maybe you could actually describe your PROBLEM. |
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| 02:49.48 | samarora | yes |
| 02:49.51 | rue_mohr | I'd love to have a working set of gians for a fxo->t1->asterisk->t1->fxs arrangement |
| 02:49.59 | samarora | i have two * boxes at two branches... |
| 02:50.56 | samarora | i would like to have sip as internal protocol and IAX protocol as inter-asterisk protocol....and moreover i am able to call to each sip client at both the side...pl suggest |
| 02:52.18 | rue_mohr | oh oh oh, is there a utility i can use on the T1 to calibrate to a 1mW reference? |
| 02:52.26 | rue_mohr | ??? |
| 02:52.48 | [TK]D-Fender | samarora, NO. You have jsut repeated what you already told me you wanted to do. I told you where to go to get info on doing this. You then told me you had problems and are failing to provide details of the problem. I am not going to go hunting for more docs when you can't describe the problems you had following the FIRST bunch |
| 02:53.23 | [TK]D-Fender | rue_mohr, fxotune? |
| 02:53.47 | rue_mohr | ok... |
| 02:54.21 | rue_mohr | 958-2011 2100 Hz tone (toll-free in BC) I think thats 1mW |
| 02:55.52 | rue_mohr | fxotune is just for echo |
| 02:56.00 | rue_mohr | I need to check levels |
| 02:56.34 | rue_mohr | one of the sets I have has a REALLY loud dtmf gen, and on the new system it distorts, so something is too high |
| 02:56.55 | rue_mohr | I cant get a sip working to play with it in the middle of the path |
| 02:57.33 | rue_mohr | is there no oscilloscope for T1s on an asterisk system? |
| 02:57.43 | rue_mohr | for scoping a channel? |
| 02:58.21 | [TK]D-Fender | ztmonitor I believe |
| 02:58.27 | rue_mohr | then again, I dont know I'd know what to do with the numbers, but I could tell saturation easy |
| 02:59.41 | rue_mohr | better |
| 02:59.49 | rue_mohr | much much closer to what I was talking about |
| 03:01.08 | rue_mohr | changing either gain is asterisk is silly |
| 03:01.14 | rue_mohr | so i nee to adjust the channelbank |
| 03:02.04 | rue_mohr | numbers would be nice, maybe I should add some eh? |
| 03:03.57 | rue_mohr | hmm, see, my rx levels options go from -3db to -10db |
| 03:04.05 | [TK]D-Fender | rue_mohr, meaningless to me... but maybe someone else may know. Keep in mind its the weekend, and on canada Day as well.... low odds |
| 03:04.13 | rue_mohr | :) |
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| 03:04.32 | samarora | TK, i have 1XX series dial plan at siteA and 2XX series dialplan at siteB and i want that from siteA i can call both to 1XX and 2XX...and I am having sip configured at each sites...and would like to use IAX to communicate between two boxes.. |
| 03:04.52 | samarora | and also i did :switch => IAX2/master:secret@iax-gw1.company.net/outbound |
| 03:05.24 | rue_mohr | I wonder if 1mW should be 0db? |
| 03:05.31 | samarora | but do i need to register context defined in iax.conf...and if yes then where ? |
| 03:06.08 | samarora | and through this statement am i able to call to sip at another * boxes... |
| 03:08.17 | rue_mohr | I dont get it |
| 03:08.18 | [TK]D-Fender | samarora, No, you never need to register. |
| 03:08.32 | rue_mohr | I down _down_ the gain on the fxo card and it gets louder |
| 03:08.44 | b1shop | [TK]D-Fender: thanks again for your help! we ran all week with no issues! ;-) |
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| 03:09.05 | rue_mohr | 0db is Louder than -7db |
| 03:09.09 | rue_mohr | !?!? |
| 03:09.52 | Corydon76-home | rue_mohr: correct |
| 03:10.17 | rue_mohr | !?! |
| 03:10.32 | rue_mohr | -7db should be attenuated, quieter ?? |
| 03:11.06 | [TK]D-Fender | b1shop, Ah, good to hear! |
| 03:11.13 | [TK]D-Fender | b1shop, Happy with the setup? |
| 03:11.27 | [TK]D-Fender | rue_mohr, More > Less :) |
| 03:11.37 | b1shop | VERY! you can use me for a recommendation ANY TIME! |
| 03:12.16 | rue_mohr | -3db shoudl be 50% of the signal, 3db should be 200% signal, right? |
| 03:12.33 | b1shop | i'm prob gonna have a few questions for ya next week.. |
| 03:12.55 | shmaltz | D-Fender, you in NJ? right? |
| 03:15.14 | BSD_Tech | no he is on mars |
| 03:19.17 | OloBola | [TK]D-Fender: apparently I need to run Fedora Core 5 or 6 to run LumenVox Speech Starter Kit |
| 03:19.42 | rue_mohr | rx and tx levels at 5 points... |
| 03:19.51 | [TK]D-Fender | OloBola, Why don't you just reinstall or have you done a lot to your server? |
| 03:20.14 | [TK]D-Fender | shmaltz, Yes, the Montreal, PQ side ;) |
| 03:20.14 | rue_mohr | oo 3 points, I cant adjust gain for the T1 |
| 03:20.37 | shmaltz | sorry for that |
| 03:23.17 | OloBola | [TK]D-Fender: I'm lazy! I know someone other than myself can get it up and running in no time. I don't know linux very well is the real issue. I have to look everything up. |
| 03:24.07 | polerin | meh |
| 03:24.15 | [TK]D-Fender | shmaltz, you keep asking every time you look to outsource your projects ;) |
| 03:25.03 | shmaltz | [TK]D-Fender, I'm not looking to outsource, but to hire |
| 03:27.05 | [TK]D-Fender | Ah, well..... sorry, but I'm not heading down that way until GWB / DHS = gone currently.... |
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| 03:29.43 | polerin | bleh, Ok inband question |
| 03:29.53 | polerin | err inbound question. gods thats not a good start |
| 03:29.54 | polerin | lol |
| 03:30.40 | [TK]D-Fender | BRB |
| 03:33.01 | polerin | My * box is also the NAT box. * listens on the external interface. I'm currently using broadvoice and can make outgoing just fine, but my incoming is ... twichy. Internally I have two softphones that can dial the extensions for each other just fine, "normal" internal call. When I try to use Dial() to connect an incoming BV call to one of these softphones the dial executes, I can see the incoming on the softphone and answer, but whe |
| 03:33.10 | polerin | the call immediatly ends |
| 03:33.34 | rue_mohr | can I make changes in zapata.conf effective without losing a call? |
| 03:33.38 | polerin | if I ignore the incoming on the softphone it will move to the next step |
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| 03:34.13 | rue_mohr | that OR can someone tell me what the definition of rx and tx is for zapata.conf |
| 03:34.20 | [TK]D-Fender | . |
| 03:35.39 | shmaltz | rue_mohr, rx=receive and tx=transmit |
| 03:35.46 | rue_mohr | duh :) |
| 03:36.02 | polerin | heh |
| 03:36.09 | rue_mohr | I need to hear louder... |
| 03:36.12 | rue_mohr | :) |
| 03:36.28 | polerin | [TK]D-Fender: btw, mind if I msg you the text of the question rather than spamming the channel with it for a second time? |
| 03:36.57 | polerin | you've helped me in the past is the only reason I ask ;p |
| 03:37.03 | Strom_M | rue_mohr: are you on an analog circuit or are you on t1/e1? |
| 03:37.16 | shmaltz | polerin, in general you should leave it in the channel so others can help as well, for large amoutn of text use pb |
| 03:37.16 | rue_mohr | heh |
| 03:37.19 | shmaltz | ~pb |
| 03:37.20 | jbot | A Pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org |
| 03:37.45 | polerin | shmaltz: I already dumped in the channel... 4 seconds after he left ;) |
| 03:38.02 | polerin | and it's just one line... one long line. |
| 03:38.16 | rue_mohr | this is in zapata.conf, I need to boost the signal from the channelbank (channel 7) thru asterisk to the channelbank (channel 2) |
| 03:38.17 | [TK]D-Fender | polerin, PB it FAST, I'm out in 3 mins |
| 03:38.26 | polerin | ah don't worry then D |
| 03:38.35 | polerin | this isn't pressing, it's just annoying |
| 03:38.53 | polerin | have a nice night :) |
| 03:38.59 | [TK]D-Fender | polerin, Still ask fast, the answer may be that quick |
| 03:39.11 | rue_mohr | experimant you say? |
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| 03:40.36 | polerin | http://pastebin.ca/598187 |
| 03:41.24 | polerin | oh, one more thing. If I don't answer the call and hit the ignore button, it moves to the next step rather than the call immediatly ending. |
| 03:41.25 | rue_mohr | hrm, |
| 03:42.00 | [TK]D-Fender | polerin, "canreinvite=no" in [general] , and each phones entry in sip.conf |
| 03:42.44 | polerin | awesome. I'll give it a shot, thanks muchly |
| 03:42.46 | [TK]D-Fender | polerin, ignore jsut tells the phone to refust the call, and * won't care. * does what * is TOLD to do. Check your DIALSTATUS to see if the reason is triggerable |
| 03:43.24 | polerin | yeah the ignore sends a 402 to * |
| 03:43.26 | [TK]D-Fender | ok, times up! :) Out for a while, back later. |
| 03:43.47 | [TK]D-Fender | polerin, Yeah, but chan_sip doesn't pass it back to the dialplan necessarily in a usable way |
| 03:43.52 | [TK]D-Fender | work on that a bit :) |
| 03:43.59 | polerin | nods. I'm not even checking on that |
| 03:44.00 | polerin | lol |
| 03:44.06 | polerin | I'm more worried about it picking up right |
| 03:44.07 | polerin | hehe |
| 03:44.16 | [TK]D-Fender | ok, keep it up, I'll be around. |
| 03:44.20 | polerin | kay kay |
| 03:44.21 | polerin | thanks |
| 03:44.23 | [TK]D-Fender | np |
| 03:44.52 | Strom__ | rue_mohr: what do you have connected to those two zap channels? |
| 03:45.40 | rue_mohr | one is an fxo card, the other fxs card, on a channelbank |
| 03:46.32 | Strom__ | ok, and so essentially you're attempting to compensate for attenuation on the POTS circuit? |
| 03:46.58 | rue_mohr | well see, funny thing, plugging the phone into the pots is fine |
| 03:47.08 | rue_mohr | but I cant adjust all the system gains to 0db |
| 03:47.24 | rue_mohr | the rx on the fxs card only goes to -3db |
| 03:47.39 | Strom__ | rue_mohr: you shouldn't be dicking with gains on the FXS ports |
| 03:47.42 | rue_mohr | and I'm having all sorts of fun with distortion |
| 03:47.51 | rue_mohr | what shoudl they be? |
| 03:47.59 | Strom__ | 0 on FXS |
| 03:48.16 | Strom__ | compensate for attenuation on the FXO port only |
| 03:48.17 | rue_mohr | fxs has rx and tx |
| 03:48.23 | Strom__ | both should be 0 |
| 03:48.29 | rue_mohr | dont know if I can |
| 03:48.36 | Strom__ | uh, of course you can |
| 03:48.43 | rue_mohr | and 0 is quiet on the fso, -7db is louder? |
| 03:49.02 | Strom__ | pastebin your zapata.conf |
| 03:49.21 | rue_mohr | :) |
| 03:49.35 | rue_mohr | it would be nice to have pastebin url in the topic like ##c |
| 03:49.43 | Strom__ | www.pastebin.ca |
| 03:49.55 | Strom__ | there's enough crap in the topic already |
| 03:50.02 | Strom__ | it's assumed you know where a pastebin is |
| 03:50.06 | Strom__ | or can type |
| 03:50.07 | Strom__ | ~pb |
| 03:50.08 | jbot | A Pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org |
| 03:51.07 | rue_mohr | http://rafb.net/p/4gamyw42.html |
| 03:51.37 | Strom__ | and after all that kvetching, you go and use a different one |
| 03:51.41 | Strom__ | ugh |
| 03:51.47 | rue_mohr | I used the one from ##c |
| 03:51.53 | rue_mohr | cause I was already there |
| 03:51.54 | Strom__ | don't kvetch about these things if you're not going to listen to the replies |
| 03:52.21 | rue_mohr | I was already copying that url in ##c when you triggered the bot... |
| 03:52.34 | rue_mohr | anyhow |
| 03:52.42 | Strom__ | anyway, you're not limited to one instance of the rxgain and txgain lines |
| 03:52.48 | Strom__ | you can do something like |
| 03:52.53 | rue_mohr | ? |
| 03:52.56 | Strom__ | rxgain=0 |
| 03:53.00 | Strom__ | channel => 1 |
| 03:53.07 | Strom__ | rxgain=2 |
| 03:53.13 | Strom__ | channel => 2 |
| 03:53.14 | Strom__ | etc |
| 03:53.17 | rue_mohr | ok |
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| 03:55.55 | Barmal | where can I download sip firmware for cisco 7970 ??? |
| 03:56.05 | Strom__ | cisco.com |
| 03:56.08 | Strom__ | or your reseller |
| 03:56.36 | Barmal | do not have account w/ cisco and reseller is ebay :) |
| 03:56.46 | Strom__ | well, looks like you're out of luck :) |
| 03:57.11 | Strom__ | contact a cisco reseller and purchase a license from them |
| 03:57.22 | Barmal | how much does it cost? |
| 03:57.27 | Strom__ | $7? |
| 03:57.58 | Barmal | any recommendation on firmware version? |
| 03:58.06 | Strom__ | whatever the latest is? |
| 03:58.57 | polerin | meh |
| 03:59.08 | polerin | ok so careinvite=no isn't working |
| 03:59.16 | Strom__ | should be canreinvite |
| 03:59.22 | Strom__ | not careinvite |
| 03:59.25 | polerin | *headdesk* |
| 03:59.36 | polerin | that's what I get for assuming i'm reading somethign right |
| 03:59.38 | polerin | something |
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| 03:59.44 | Strom__ | can re invite |
| 04:00.05 | polerin | yeah, |
| 04:00.10 | Strom__ | (syllables) |
| 04:00.17 | polerin | ironically just one letter off, but that'll do it |
| 04:02.38 | Strom__ | though one wonders if there's a difference between a care invite and a care package |
| 04:04.05 | polerin | well. after adding the 'n' to it in the proper place... it works |
| 04:04.07 | polerin | awesomeness |
| 04:04.11 | Strom__ | woooooot |
| 04:04.29 | polerin | aparently * doesn't like caring |
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| 04:05.16 | Strom__ | rue_mohr: are you still there? |
| 04:12.30 | rue_mohr | yes |
| 04:13.26 | rue_mohr | thus far, I have not eliminated CBC from the fxo card, I'll think of it a little more |
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| 04:15.02 | Strom__ | CBC? |
| 04:15.14 | Strom__ | ....the canadian broadcasting corporation? |
| 04:15.24 | rue_mohr | yup |
| 04:15.32 | Strom__ | what are they doing in your FXO card |
| 04:15.33 | rue_mohr | the radio station i cant stand most |
| 04:15.38 | rue_mohr | good question |
| 04:15.39 | Strom__ | oh |
| 04:15.54 | Strom__ | if you're picking up radio on your POTS line, you need to buy a filter |
| 04:16.04 | Strom__ | you can't configure that away |
| 04:16.05 | rue_mohr | I dont know if its the fxo card, or when the card connects to the fxs card |
| 04:16.11 | Strom__ | uh |
| 04:16.15 | rue_mohr | naaa, cause I dont get it with just a phone |
| 04:16.15 | Strom__ | it's the fxo card |
| 04:16.25 | polerin | this is why I like coax. If you are picking up ingress... Find where the break in your sheilding is :P |
| 04:16.34 | rue_mohr | think I shoudl try a small cap or large resistor across the line? |
| 04:16.38 | Strom__ | maybe your channel bank is a piece of crap |
| 04:16.43 | rue_mohr | heh |
| 04:16.51 | rue_mohr | mainstreet 3624 |
| 04:17.00 | Strom__ | never heard of that company |
| 04:17.08 | rue_mohr | I really need to try grounding it better though |
| 04:17.08 | Strom__ | i only use Adtran |
| 04:17.08 | rue_mohr | newbridge |
| 04:17.11 | Strom__ | uh, yes |
| 04:17.38 | polerin | wait.. you didn't gro... and you are wonder... oh ... heh. |
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| 04:18.32 | Strom__ | polerin: no, i'd take the disconnected ground wire and strangle people with it |
| 04:18.34 | polerin | To be honest, it is VERY odd to find cable that isn't grounded whatsoever. |
| 04:18.40 | polerin | (CATV mind you) |
| 04:18.52 | rue_mohr | its grounded with both conductors of the brown pair at the demarc :) |
| 04:19.00 | Strom__ | rue_mohr: uh, no no and no |
| 04:19.08 | rue_mohr | I know I know |
| 04:19.10 | Strom__ | "the brown pair" is not ground |
| 04:19.11 | polerin | because it's grounded at the pole, usually is grounded through whatever equipment (long story there), and is bonded to the house ground at the side of the house |
| 04:19.21 | Strom__ | polerin: didn't you work for cocks? |
| 04:19.22 | Strom__ | er, cox |
| 04:19.27 | rue_mohr | I wanted to know if It would quiet the radio station a little, before I go to #6 cable |
| 04:19.31 | polerin | nope I work for comcrap |
| 04:19.41 | Strom__ | it's comcrapular? |
| 04:19.48 | polerin | every fucking day. |
| 04:19.51 | rue_mohr | its grounded, I grounded it at the demarc |
| 04:20.01 | Strom__ | rue_mohr: grounded it how |
| 04:20.05 | polerin | though keep your finger crossed, because I might be moving up the shitladder |
| 04:20.07 | rue_mohr | to the ground lug |
| 04:20.11 | rue_mohr | :) |
| 04:20.19 | Strom__ | and that's fine and well, but your channel bank needs to be grounded too |
| 04:20.33 | rue_mohr | thats what the other end of the brown pair is conneted to |
| 04:20.48 | Strom__ | rue_mohr: "the brown pair" is for telecom |
| 04:20.53 | rue_mohr | I know |
| 04:20.57 | Strom__ | you're supposed to use real ground wire |
| 04:21.03 | Strom__ | and know that brown/white is pair four |
| 04:21.04 | rue_mohr | I needed wire to try some sorta-grounding |
| 04:21.08 | rue_mohr | I know |
| 04:21.36 | Strom__ | as opposed to brown/red or brown/black or brown/yellow or brown/violet |
| 04:21.51 | rue_mohr | its just a 4 pair to the demark |
| 04:21.55 | Strom__ | demarc |
| 04:21.58 | rue_mohr | cat5e :) |
| 04:21.58 | Strom__ | not demark |
| 04:22.14 | rue_mohr | sorry |
| 04:22.20 | rue_mohr | fingers keep doing that |
| 04:22.24 | Strom__ | you /do/ know it's short for "demarcation point", right? |
| 04:22.30 | rue_mohr | yup |
| 04:22.36 | polerin | demarcation ftw. (spelling for the loose) I wish comcast knew what that is |
| 04:22.46 | polerin | we end up supporting way too much crap |
| 04:22.50 | rue_mohr | :) |
| 04:23.14 | rue_mohr | how do I transfer a call on my nortel phone again :) |
| 04:24.02 | rue_mohr | **266344266344 and find erase all? |
| 04:24.27 | Strom__ | is this #nortel? |
| 04:24.32 | rue_mohr | heh |
| 04:24.37 | rue_mohr | just kidding... |
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| 04:26.45 | polerin | ngiht all |
| 04:27.05 | polerin | ... night even. I think we see why I"m going to sleep |
| 04:27.15 | polerin | rue_mohr: ground it |
| 04:27.17 | polerin | ;P |
| 04:27.20 | rue_mohr | :) |
| 04:27.36 | rue_mohr | shall I ground the 66 strip to? |
| 04:27.47 | rue_mohr | can I just ground my roommate? |
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| 04:28.35 | nephfl | have any of you guys taken the dCAP exam? |
| 04:28.43 | rue_mohr | not I |
| 04:28.48 | rue_mohr | unless I didn't notice |
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| 04:29.33 | Strom__ | nephfl: I've taken it |
| 04:29.57 | Strom__ | and passed with flying colors (colours) |
| 04:30.45 | Strom__ | nephfl: por que? |
| 04:31.00 | nephfl | I have been looking at certifications for our company. We have set up a couple asterisk systems now, and I was wondering if it would be worthwhile to take the exam. (also polycom' |
| 04:31.03 | nephfl | s exam) |
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| 04:32.03 | nephfl | also how difficult is it to prepare for the exam? |
| 04:32.11 | Strom__ | nephfl: depends on your experience |
| 04:32.20 | rue_mohr | hmm |
| 04:32.23 | Strom__ | the practical gives you 90 minutes to set up a system |
| 04:32.31 | Strom__ | the written is a lot of asterisk and telecom theory |
| 04:32.40 | rue_mohr | shoudl I use the 66 frame I have or should I spend $25 and get a bix frame? |
| 04:32.49 | Strom__ | 66 blocks are fine |
| 04:33.14 | rue_mohr | this one dosn't look like it was made int eh 60's either |
| 04:33.20 | nephfl | how much does the cert cost? |
| 04:33.26 | Strom__ | nephfl: US$300 |
| 04:35.12 | rue_mohr | http://www.siemon.com/e-catalog/ECAT_GI_page.aspx?GI_ID=66_field-terminated-m-series-s66-blocks |
| 04:35.15 | rue_mohr | I have about 6 of those |
| 04:35.25 | nephfl | i have a ton of IT experience, but am new to asterisk and phone, trying to figure out the course to get into phone |
| 04:36.04 | Strom__ | nephfl: it may be worth taking the asterisk bootcamp course also |
| 04:36.48 | Strom__ | rue_mohr: yes, i work with S-66-M-50 blocks all the time |
| 04:36.55 | Strom__ | can't remember how the hell they're hyphenated though |
| 04:37.39 | rue_mohr | I dont know what the cable path shoudl be |
| 04:38.12 | Strom__ | ? |
| 04:38.21 | Strom__ | two sets of blocks |
| 04:38.28 | rue_mohr | on a bix strip, you do things to leave the service loops |
| 04:38.32 | Strom__ | one for your incoming cabling, one for your internal station wiring |
| 04:38.49 | nephfl | i saw the bootcamp but the price is pretty steep on my budget |
| 04:38.53 | Strom__ | fixed cabling routes in through the standoff block, round the side, and into the outer set of contacts |
| 04:39.01 | rue_mohr | do they take the distribution cable up from in behind it? |
| 04:39.18 | rue_mohr | ah |
| 04:39.19 | Strom__ | then you run jumpers from the inner set of contacts on the one block to the inner set of contacts on the other block |
| 04:39.24 | rue_mohr | ah |
| 04:39.33 | Strom__ | whizzy-jizzy easy |
| 04:39.48 | Strom__ | but i've seen it screwed up a lot too |
| 04:39.48 | rue_mohr | should you be able to pull it off and flip it over? |
| 04:39.54 | Strom__ | wha? |
| 04:39.57 | Strom__ | pull what off |
| 04:40.05 | rue_mohr | no service loops/slack? |
| 04:40.11 | rue_mohr | hmm |
| 04:40.12 | Strom__ | ....no |
| 04:40.21 | rue_mohr | its just different :) |
| 04:40.48 | Strom__ | lemme find photos |
| 04:40.57 | rue_mohr | so there is no "leave slack like this so you can move any pair to anywhere" |
| 04:41.04 | rue_mohr | http://www.siemon.com/share/products05/66_pre-wired-157-series_big.jpg |
| 04:41.44 | Strom__ | http://tippenring.com/images/telecom/sto/DSCF0581.JPG |
| 04:41.50 | Strom__ | rue_mohr: the pairs remain fixed in place |
| 04:42.03 | rue_mohr | yar |
| 04:42.05 | Strom__ | once you punch the pair down to the block, you should never have to move it again |
| 04:42.10 | Strom__ | you move the jumpers |
| 04:42.17 | Strom__ | because jumper wire is cheap and plentiful |
| 04:42.17 | rue_mohr | in bix, you can do a thing so you can move pairs around |
| 04:42.23 | rue_mohr | k |
| 04:42.26 | Strom__ | that's brain-dead |
| 04:43.15 | rue_mohr | nortel is just that isn't it, north america |
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| 04:43.31 | Strom__ | ? |
| 04:43.41 | rue_mohr | bix |
| 04:43.50 | Strom__ | we don't have bix in california |
| 04:43.56 | rue_mohr | ooo |
| 04:44.06 | rue_mohr | maybe its a telus thing |
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| 04:44.23 | Strom__ | get your bix on route sixty-six |
| 04:44.30 | rue_mohr | heh |
| 04:44.39 | rue_mohr | all the old stuff here is bix, the reallly old stuff |
| 04:44.55 | Strom__ | i should take a shower |
| 04:45.07 | Strom__ | then go out for the evening |
| 04:45.52 | nephfl | out, what is that? |
| 04:46.16 | rue_mohr | is there something I'm in I shoudl be worried about? |
| 04:47.05 | rue_mohr | I think the fact this 66 block is cat5 disturbs me |
| 04:51.27 | Nugget | I didn't think that was possible. I thought you needed type110 for cat5 cable |
| 04:53.08 | rue_mohr | anyone want to trade an S66M1-50 ( 50 pair) 66 block for a S66M4-12 (12 pair) block? |
| 04:53.47 | rue_mohr | bah, i can just get a bix frame ... |
| 04:54.03 | Strom__ | rue_mohr: oh don't be scared of the damned 66 block |
| 04:54.15 | rue_mohr | but but but |
| 04:54.18 | Strom__ | it's really really really really simple |
| 04:54.54 | Strom__ | now if only i had a scanner |
| 04:55.02 | rue_mohr | thts it see |
| 04:55.13 | rue_mohr | bix is more modern |
| 04:55.19 | Strom__ | blah blah blah |
| 04:55.26 | nephfl | so, the practical part of the exam is that a config with ip with sources including the confs that are normally included? |
| 04:55.26 | Strom__ | excuses excuses |
| 04:55.53 | nephfl | by ip i mean voip extensions and trunk |
| 04:56.03 | Strom__ | nephfl: you get a PC, a tdm card, a t1 card, a pots circuit, an isdn pri, an analog phone, a sip phone, and 90 minutes |
| 04:56.25 | nephfl | cool |
| 04:56.28 | Strom__ | the pc already has linux and the asterisk source on it |
| 04:59.14 | nephfl | i imagine with zaptel configured automatically most of the custom stuff is in the dialplan, right? |
| 05:00.09 | Strom__ | pretty much |
| 05:00.49 | rue_mohr | http://eds.dyndns.org:81/~ircjunk/images/dscn9964.jpg |
| 05:01.06 | rue_mohr | maybe my bix implementations isn't pretty, but man, its so much smaller than the 66 |
| 05:01.17 | Strom__ | well good for you then :) |
| 05:01.23 | rue_mohr | its not my fualt, all the cables were just a little short |
| 05:01.41 | Strom__ | the nice thing about 66 is that you terminate the cables /once/ |
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| 05:01.54 | nephfl | i think i read you can get the company labeled an authorized partner for 6 months until you get your cert, seems like that would be plenty of time to get experience with the aspects of asterisk that I haven't hit so far |
| 05:01.54 | Strom__ | if you keep re-terminating the same cable, you will eventually run out of cable |
| 05:02.19 | rue_mohr | yea, I suppose you dont have to move it aroudn to add more distribution cables |
| 05:04.19 | rue_mohr | heh, I just missed the network port with the wire conmming out that say "T1 CROSSOVER! T1 CROSSOVER!" |
| 05:04.38 | rue_mohr | :) |
| 05:04.52 | nephfl | do most people still prefer/use the 66 panels, or do alot of people use patch panels? |
| 05:05.02 | Strom__ | depends on the application |
| 05:05.06 | rue_mohr | here its preffered to use bix |
| 05:05.08 | Strom__ | for ethernet, use patch panels |
| 05:05.11 | Strom__ | for phone, use 66 |
| 05:05.13 | rue_mohr | 66 is old school |
| 05:05.13 | Strom__ | simple |
| 05:05.27 | rue_mohr | oh I see, sorry, I missed the question |
| 05:05.50 | rue_mohr | I installed patch panel for telco for a fellow who wanted to be able to do his own rewiring |
| 05:06.21 | rue_mohr | he has 1 port for each pstn line and 1 for each drop, he inserts splitters/patches as required |
| 05:06.26 | nephfl | From reading i got the impression that most places were just wiring cat5/6 and using patch cables (since rj45/cat5/6 is backwards compatible and can provide phone over the extra pair) |
| 05:06.31 | Strom__ | sounds like a fucking mess |
| 05:06.48 | Strom__ | nephfl: you're thinking of TIA-568-A/B |
| 05:07.04 | Strom__ | RJ-45 specifies a jack type; CAt5/6 specifies a cable type |
| 05:07.06 | rue_mohr | the problem with using 8 conductor jacks for phone is that on SOME connectors, the outter pairs in the jack bend and dont work for network |
| 05:07.36 | rue_mohr | its not too bad, and he can rewire at will, no special tools |
| 05:07.43 | dc3aes | w/ the PAP2, do i need to clear out its dialplans or anything to use with *? I can't seem to make *[number][number] extensions in my dialplan, the pap2 just freaks out with a fast busy tone |
| 05:07.56 | dc3aes | im suspecting that it is interpreting it locally in a dialplan within the pap2? |
| 05:07.58 | Strom__ | dc3aes: those are called vertical service codes |
| 05:08.06 | Strom__ | ~vsc |
| 05:08.13 | jbot | hmm... vsc is Vertical Service Codes such as *67, *69, *72, and *82. These codes are generally reserved for specific uses, and it's a bad idea to conflict with the official assignments. A list of assigned VSCs for North America is at http://nanpa.com/number_resource_info/vsc_assignments.html and http://www.nanpa.com/number_resource_info/vsc_definitions.html |
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| 05:08.42 | dc3aes | i was vaguely aware of this.. but figured i could sneak some in around the "officials" |
| 05:08.49 | Strom__ | WRONG |
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| 05:09.12 | Strom__ | (buzzing noise) |
| 05:09.14 | dc3aes | haha |
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| 05:14.10 | rue_mohr | haha I know why -that guy- was mounting the bix strips vertically, he was a 66 guy from wayback... NOW that makes sense |
| 05:14.35 | nephfl | so, if you were to wire new construction, wouldnt you wire all connections with cat5/6 to 568 b to a patch panel and then just connect to switch/pstn/asterisk box by patch cable?(no 66 blocks) |
| 05:14.36 | rue_mohr | does that mean I shoudl mount my 66 strip horizontally }:) |
| 05:14.53 | rue_mohr | not for telco |
| 05:15.09 | rue_mohr | all the telco would go to a punched interconnect |
| 05:15.21 | rue_mohr | and the network to patch panels |
| 05:15.23 | Strom_M | never ever mount 66 horizontally |
| 05:15.38 | rue_mohr | - in comes voip - out goes punched interconnects |
| 05:15.41 | denon | never mount a 66 block at all |
| 05:15.42 | denon | 110 :) |
| 05:15.43 | Strom_M | or i will personally unmount the block and hit you with it |
| 05:15.47 | rue_mohr | Strom_M, thats just wrong? |
| 05:15.53 | Strom_M | very |
| 05:15.56 | rue_mohr | hah |
| 05:16.13 | denon | just use 110 blocks, then you wont have to redo em later when analog is history |
| 05:16.29 | rue_mohr | that sounds just a little more like what me and a telco guys said when we saw a vertically mounted bix frame |
| 05:16.52 | rue_mohr | I'm working somewhere between a budget and a timeline |
| 05:17.05 | rue_mohr | its $25 for a bix frame, which I have strips for |
| 05:17.18 | rue_mohr | or the 66 I have in my lap |
| 05:17.29 | rue_mohr | or one of the other ones in the box in the livingroom |
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| 05:17.39 | denon | just so long as whoever is whining about timeframe understands that you cant run data over it later |
| 05:17.48 | rue_mohr | me :) |
| 05:17.58 | rue_mohr | and I used cat3 wire for hte phones :) |
| 05:18.02 | nephfl | so 110 blocks then |
| 05:18.02 | denon | ew |
| 05:18.05 | [TK]D-Fender | dc3aes, You can work around them all you want. |
| 05:18.12 | denon | nephfl: scroll back. |
| 05:18.28 | denon | rue_mohr: why cat3? cat5 is cheap |
| 05:18.29 | [TK]D-Fender | dc3aes, the ATA's features can be remapped and the dialplan made to accoutn for trather easily |
| 05:18.48 | [TK]D-Fender | cat3 = MISTAKE. Cat5E + RJ45 EVERYWHERE |
| 05:18.55 | rue_mohr | actaully, I'm not sure it even said cat3, its just red black green yellow in a jacket :) |
| 05:19.05 | denon | oh brother |
| 05:19.07 | rue_mohr | I didn't have enough cat5e |
| 05:19.17 | denon | go down to your local lumber yard and get more :) |
| 05:19.22 | denon | everyone stocks it no |
| 05:19.22 | rue_mohr | $$ |
| 05:19.22 | denon | now |
| 05:19.25 | rue_mohr | yea |
| 05:19.29 | denon | most people think its actually phone cable |
| 05:19.29 | rue_mohr | its cheaper than cat3 |
| 05:19.48 | rue_mohr | but I have a few boxes of it from a commercial install |
| 05:19.58 | rue_mohr | he was gonna throw out a few full boxes |
| 05:20.00 | denon | I talked to an electrician last week, that said "oh, you can run computer networks on cat 5 now too?" |
| 05:20.06 | rue_mohr | haha |
| 05:20.08 | denon | as if it was some new invention, running computers on phone cable |
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| 05:20.43 | denon | he also used those horrible rj45 plates with the screws on the back |
| 05:20.47 | rue_mohr | it would fit in the cabinet better horizontally.... |
| 05:20.50 | denon | instead of a punchdown block |
| 05:20.53 | rue_mohr | I HATE those |
| 05:21.01 | denon | I cant imagine you ever get anything over 1Mbps through a jack like that |
| 05:21.04 | denon | there's no twist for miles |
| 05:21.06 | rue_mohr | they buy them at work cause their cheap |
| 05:21.08 | nephfl | so why a 110 panel and not a rj45 punch panel? |
| 05:21.26 | denon | nephfl: he's doing a 66, analog stuff |
| 05:21.30 | denon | Im just saying he should future-proof |
| 05:21.33 | rue_mohr | to be honest I'v never *seen* a 110 interconnect |
| 05:21.39 | denon | he's saying he's cheap, and already has the gear |
| 05:21.47 | rue_mohr | not with cat3 cable |
| 05:22.02 | rue_mohr | I have cat5 runs isntalled, |
| 05:22.07 | rue_mohr | its a robotics workshop |
| 05:22.07 | denon | or whatever the ma-bell specialty cable is that you have |
| 05:22.21 | denon | are there *any* twists? :) |
| 05:22.50 | rue_mohr | I suspect not, actually, i'm gonna have to opent eh wall back up to remember what cable I used |
| 05:23.02 | nephfl | i have a silly question...is there a tool you are supposed to use with the 66 blocks? |
| 05:23.04 | rue_mohr | it might have been that stuff I said, but it might have been 3 pair cat3 |
| 05:23.11 | rue_mohr | yes |
| 05:23.16 | denon | nephfl: yes - a punchdown tool with a 66 bit |
| 05:23.26 | denon | preferrably a cutting bit imho, much faster and cleaner |
| 05:23.43 | denon | a *real* spring loaded punchdown tool |
| 05:23.49 | rue_mohr | http://eds.dyndns.org:81/~ircjunk/shop/dscn9924.jpg |
| 05:23.50 | denon | not just some crappy plastic thing from home depot |
| 05:24.10 | rue_mohr | http://eds.dyndns.org:81/~ircjunk/shop/dscn9921.jpg |
| 05:24.17 | denon | rue_mohr: that pex coming through the floor? |
| 05:24.23 | rue_mohr | yup |
| 05:24.26 | rue_mohr | in floor heating |
| 05:24.34 | denon | nod |
| 05:24.40 | nephfl | ive never used a 66 bit... do they have them at most hardware stores? |
| 05:24.46 | denon | just got done plumbing my new house - pretty used to seeing those caps |
| 05:24.48 | rue_mohr | I did an experiment |
| 05:24.57 | rue_mohr | I burried all the comms cable |
| 05:25.00 | denon | nephfl: not a clue, sorry - they're not hard to find though |
| 05:25.29 | rue_mohr | I know right where it is, gonna use mod rings to pull it all out as I need |
| 05:25.31 | denon | nephfl: I would imagine home depot or such has em |
| 05:25.48 | denon | oh, that pex is for the comm? |
| 05:25.59 | rue_mohr | no |
| 05:26.04 | denon | ah ok |
| 05:26.05 | denon | was gonna say |
| 05:26.06 | nephfl | guess i should get one of those...lol... |
| 05:26.25 | denon | nephfl: how would you do it without? |
| 05:26.31 | denon | needlenose or somethin? |
| 05:26.32 | nephfl | do people still use those red phone handsets with the aligator clips? |
| 05:26.37 | denon | buttsets |
| 05:26.38 | denon | yeah |
| 05:26.39 | rue_mohr | plase dont say a flat blade screwdriver |
| 05:26.56 | nephfl | yeah needlenose and electricians scissors to trim |
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| 05:27.02 | denon | rue_mohr: I'd love to see someone do a screwdrive job in a 110 block |
| 05:27.10 | denon | nephfl: man, that's gotta be painful |
| 05:27.15 | littleball | hello, is it possible to reset a specific Zap channel? |
| 05:27.19 | denon | you can punch down like a strand per second with a tool |
| 05:27.27 | nephfl | it was just a small job, it wasnt worth looking for a tool |
| 05:27.28 | denon | littleball: yes, soft hangup zap/1 |
| 05:27.47 | denon | nephfl: I dunno, I'd buy a tool for more than like 3 pair :) |
| 05:27.53 | rue_mohr | http://eds.dyndns.org:81/~ircjunk/shop/dscn9691.jpg you cn just see the concentration point there |
| 05:28.16 | nephfl | yeah, now that i know there Is one...i guess ill have to pick one up |
| 05:28.34 | denon | naughty, naughy .. using pre-cut insulation batts? |
| 05:28.42 | rue_mohr | ? |
| 05:28.44 | denon | you should use a roll, then split the insulation for your wires |
| 05:28.56 | rue_mohr | roll? |
| 05:29.04 | denon | yeah |
| 05:29.05 | littleball | denon, the problem is that this channel is not actually in call status |
| 05:29.10 | rue_mohr | we dont have rolls |
| 05:29.11 | littleball | zap/112 is not a known channel |
| 05:29.19 | denon | really? |
| 05:29.22 | rue_mohr | no |
| 05:29.27 | denon | what kinda lame big box store are you buying at? |
| 05:29.32 | nephfl | too bad i cant just ask what other very basic crap i dont know...lol |
| 05:29.33 | rue_mohr | heh |
| 05:29.49 | rue_mohr | gooberville building supplies |
| 05:29.53 | denon | heh |
| 05:30.01 | denon | well, mansville makes the rolls too |
| 05:30.10 | denon | one big honkin roll, you cut it to exact length |
| 05:30.11 | littleball | denon, Request that a channel be hung up. The hangup takes effect |
| 05:30.11 | littleball | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:30.15 | denon | works great, fits really tight |
| 05:30.20 | rue_mohr | k.. |
| 05:30.24 | rue_mohr | prolly cheaper to |
| 05:30.32 | denon | yeah, slightly as I recall |
| 05:30.42 | nephfl | who uses dyndns anymore? dont we all have static ips? |
| 05:30.47 | rue_mohr | http://eds.dyndns.org:81/~ircjunk/shop/dscn9789.jpg R40 would suck |
| 05:30.47 | denon | not huge, though - seems like the kraft-backed crap is cheapest when it's on sale |
| 05:31.08 | denon | and I really hate that kraft paper |
| 05:31.09 | rue_mohr | I dont have $$ for static ips |
| 05:31.21 | denon | I prefer doing a single continuous vapor barrier out of like 6mil |
| 05:31.34 | nephfl | here it is cheaper to get business service at home with static than residential service |
| 05:31.42 | denon | oh, see I never put that stuff in the ceiling - I prefer that white blown cellulose |
| 05:32.02 | nephfl | and their competator is $5/mo for static |
| 05:32.12 | denon | place will usually let you use their blower for free |
| 05:34.36 | rue_mohr | staicis like $25/mo here |
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| 05:38.21 | [TK]D-Fender | littleball, Zap/112 is not a channel. Zap/112-1 would be. |
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| 05:38.39 | [TK]D-Fender | littleball, in terms of a CALL channel. |
| 05:38.53 | [TK]D-Fender | anyways... way late, I'm off later all. |
| 05:41.00 | littleball | TK, is it possible to reset a PRI channel, no matter it is used or not. Zap/112-1 means that the channel is in use |
| 05:41.02 | littleball | right? |
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| 06:25.29 | rue_mohr | does it sound plausable to create an asterisk-asterisk link to antoher system with a console phone thats hooked to an amp for paging? |
| 06:27.41 | rue_mohr | "woudl one of you guys _PLEASE_ get off your butt and answer hte phone!?!" |
| 06:27.47 | rue_mohr | :) |
| 06:28.04 | rue_mohr | secret extension number... 4 that would be |
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| 08:45.59 | tsurko | hello |
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| 08:46.18 | tsurko | since which release of asterisk ael2 is included by default? |
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| 09:00.07 | Strom_C | tsurko: 1.4 |
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| 09:17.01 | EmleyMoor | When I'm making calls using my softphone and a USB headset, I intermittently get a loud echo of my voice back, a moment after I actually spoke - this is very offputting - I am wondering if this is down to asterisk, ekiga or the driver for the headser |
| 09:17.05 | EmleyMoor | headset |
| 09:17.17 | EmleyMoor | (it doesn't just affect ekiga, the same happens with kiax |
| 09:18.53 | Strom__ | what kind of entrance facilities are you using? |
| 09:19.12 | EmleyMoor | "entrance facilities"? |
| 09:19.20 | Strom__ | ...think about it |
| 09:19.25 | Strom__ | your PSTN interconnect method |
| 09:19.58 | EmleyMoor | Ah, fairly good point - let me try a call that does not go out over my TDM400P |
| 09:22.29 | EmleyMoor | Only affects calls over PSTN - over Internet it's fine |
| 09:22.42 | Strom__ | is echo cancellation enabled on your zap channels? |
| 09:23.08 | EmleyMoor | Yes |
| 09:23.52 | Strom__ | just fyi, softphones are echoey, and the additional packetization delay between the softphone |
| 09:23.53 | Strom__ | er |
| 09:24.17 | Strom__ | just fyi, softphones are echoey, analog interfaces are echoey, and the additional packetization delay between the softphone and the tdm interface exacerbates the echo |
| 09:24.37 | EmleyMoor | Exacerbates it exponentially? |
| 09:24.52 | Strom__ | i would at this point like to kill whatever shithead at Apple thought it would be a fantastic idea to put an additional "enter" key next to the "left arrow" key |
| 09:25.25 | Strom__ | i dont know about exponentially |
| 09:25.32 | Strom__ | but to some degree, yes |
| 09:26.37 | EmleyMoor | What value is good for echotraining? |
| 09:26.44 | Strom__ | I ike 800 |
| 09:28.24 | Strom__ | s/ike/like/ |
| 09:32.04 | EmleyMoor | If 800 is not great but better, would a higher or lower number be best next? |
| 09:32.18 | Strom__ | how long is the delay on the echo? |
| 09:32.31 | EmleyMoor | About 500 |
| 09:33.37 | Strom__ | 500 milliseconds of echo based on your estimation? |
| 09:33.43 | EmleyMoor | Yes |
| 09:34.39 | Strom__ | try 1000 |
| 09:34.51 | EmleyMoor | Just did - it dropped to about 250 |
| 09:34.54 | Strom__ | also, how long is the copper loop back to the telco's CO? |
| 09:35.08 | Strom__ | the echo shouldn't be varying in length |
| 09:35.44 | EmleyMoor | It is somewhere between half a mile and three quarters, so I am told |
| 09:37.25 | Strom__ | that shouldn't be problematic |
| 09:37.36 | Strom__ | have you tried the HPEC? |
| 09:38.06 | EmleyMoor | Not sure how to do that |
| 09:39.03 | Dovid | can anyone tell me what package i am missing ? Trying to install 1.2.10 on CentOS5 |
| 09:39.04 | Dovid | http://pastebin.ca/598404 |
| 09:39.09 | Dovid | I have termcap installed on my box |
| 09:41.39 | Strom__ | Dovid: ncurses5-dev |
| 09:49.17 | Dovid | Strom__: I never needed it b4. is this something new ? |
| 09:50.09 | uwe | i needed it ever since i stated using asterisk |
| 09:51.33 | Strom__ | Dovid: you've always needed it |
| 09:51.33 | Strom__ | sometimes it gets installed with the linux distro though |
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| 09:52.04 | Strom__ | oops |
| 09:52.06 | Dovid | ah ok |
| 09:52.25 | Dovid | and i forgot to show how many g729 channels I have installed on my box |
| 09:52.29 | Dovid | how do i do that ? |
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| 10:12.59 | EmleyMoor | Having used fxotune, should I notice anything running? |
| 10:16.23 | EmleyMoor | Why would I get this: Jul 1 11:16:02 WARNING[14841]: chan_zap.c:1425 zt_train_ec: Unable to request echo training on channel 4 |
| 10:21.39 | EmleyMoor | What echo cancellers should I try? |
| 10:21.58 | EmleyMoor | I have MG2 right now |
| 10:23.04 | ThoMe | JT: hey. :-) |
| 10:23.11 | JT | hi |
| 10:24.38 | ThoMe | JT: works bristuff with digium cards? i have a bri 4 port card. |
| 10:24.47 | JT | don't know |
| 10:24.49 | ThoMe | JT: and is bris* better as mISDN ? |
| 10:25.01 | JT | i'm very curious, never heard anyone testing the digium card with it |
| 10:25.04 | JT | yes |
| 10:25.05 | JT | much better |
| 10:25.09 | ThoMe | ah ok. much? ohha. |
| 10:25.18 | ThoMe | JT: last question, do u know snom? |
| 10:25.42 | JT | i know what they are, i don't use them |
| 10:25.53 | ThoMe | hmmm, ok. |
| 10:26.17 | ThoMe | JT: i have yesterday, 12 hours test it how i can use the led's if i recieve a call... |
| 10:26.20 | ThoMe | but.. no result :/ |
| 10:26.36 | JT | i couldn't understand that |
| 10:27.08 | ThoMe | hmm, the phones have led, for the lines. |
| 10:27.27 | ThoMe | and if i recieve a call i would like led on... and if call == done, then led off |
| 10:28.58 | EmleyMoor | Does OSLEC require 1.2.13 or will it work with 1.2.11? |
| 10:29.39 | Strom__ | EmleyMoor: jesus, we're on 1.2.20 now... |
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| 10:30.13 | JT | 2 days ago, explains it |
| 10:30.35 | EmleyMoor | I'm not interested in "out-of-system maintaining asterisk - so I'm stuck with 1.2.11 for now |
| 10:30.43 | Strom__ | ? |
| 10:31.16 | JT | in english? |
| 10:31.43 | EmleyMoor | I am stuck with what Debian gives me - that needs enough work for now. |
| 10:32.03 | Strom__ | EmleyMoor: it's ridiculously easy to install asterisk from source |
| 10:32.20 | EmleyMoor | Easy, yes. Also time consuming |
| 10:32.25 | JT | EmleyMoor: err just compile it from source |
| 10:32.26 | Strom__ | uh |
| 10:32.30 | JT | what a straw hat excuse |
| 10:32.30 | Strom__ | it takes five minutes |
| 10:32.33 | JT | that is stupid |
| 10:32.48 | Strom__ | "make clean; make install" |
| 10:32.52 | JT | it is indeed fast unless you're on a Pentium I |
| 10:32.58 | Kwakwa | The current asterisk build is 1.2.13 on debian atm |
| 10:33.07 | JT | on stable perhaps |
| 10:33.13 | Strom__ | JT: 386DX!!!! |
| 10:33.16 | EmleyMoor | Well, why am I still on 11? |
| 10:33.22 | JT | Kwakwa: it's generally advised to compile asterisk from source |
| 10:33.27 | JT | not use the packaged version |
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| 10:33.34 | Givemelove | Strom__ OpenWRT! |
| 10:33.43 | Strom__ | uh, no |
| 10:33.49 | Strom__ | that's recent |
| 10:33.49 | Givemelove | ohhh yes |
| 10:34.01 | Givemelove | yeah, but what a pain to cross-compile it |
| 10:34.05 | Kwakwa | JT: Aye, I'm about to compile 1.4.6 after reading the cdr / iax fixes I've been after |
| 10:34.05 | EmleyMoor | asterisk is at 1.2.13, yes - zaptel 1.2.11 |
| 10:35.26 | JT | do you have those in america? |
| 10:35.34 | Strom__ | indeed |
| 10:35.40 | Strom__ | this is US currency I'm fondling |
| 10:35.40 | JT | i know you have threse stupid things known as "1 dollar bills" |
| 10:35.46 | Kwakwa | Is there any way to bridge two channels from the manager api? (i.e. IAX2 -> ZAP) |
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| 10:37.22 | EmleyMoor | I'm more interested in fixing this echo than spending lots of time undoing lots of my hard work |
| 10:39.08 | Kwakwa | I'm basically trying to automate a transfer using manager... call comes into a dynamic queue member, they answer it then by clicking a link (I handle that) and it originates a new call on their phone. They answer it an start a fake attended transfer. If the callee wants to take the call I want the agent to click another link which then bridges the two calls on their phone together. |
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| 10:49.59 | EmleyMoor | If I get echo in softphones when calling over FXO, will I get it in hardware IP phones too? |
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| 10:56.10 | Strom_M | its a possibility |
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| 10:59.18 | JT | EmleyMoor: who suggested to undo your hard work? |
| 11:04.38 | tsurko | is the account name in a caller saved in any variable, or is there another way to get it in the dialplan? |
| 11:05.48 | Givemelove | Guys, I've identified the Issue I was facing with ODBC_STORAGE |
| 11:06.08 | Givemelove | it appears that it's the package MyODBC on CentOS 4.4 which is responsible |
| 11:06.39 | Givemelove | With a CentOS 5.0 and the package mysql-connector-odbc (which replaces MyODBC), it seems to work like a charm. |
| 11:06.58 | Givemelove | (this was for the guys who seeks in the logs) |
| 11:07.25 | EmleyMoor | JT: apart from such things as the dialplan and custom sounds, they who suggested a local compile |
| 11:07.41 | JT | a local compile would not undo hard work |
| 11:07.43 | JT | that makes no sense |
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| 11:08.38 | JT | using software that is not 7+ releases old is called sensible practice |
| 11:10.51 | EmleyMoor | JT: Using software that works properly is also sensible practice - not that I am saying it wouldn't work properly if I compiled it but it didn't once before |
| 11:12.56 | JT | it's also not a good idea to run software that has known security vulnerabilities |
| 11:13.29 | EmleyMoor | JT: I am certain it doesn't - any that there were will have been fixed |
| 11:14.29 | EmleyMoor | If someone can prove that a fix for the specific problem I am having lies in an upgrade, I will try it |
| 11:17.13 | JT | i am certain there were serious security issues around 1.2.12 era or so |
| 11:17.20 | EmleyMoor | Were |
| 11:17.37 | JT | err you're at that era of asterisk are you not? |
| 11:17.48 | JT | and so far your excuses to not upgrade have been ones of lazyness |
| 11:19.16 | EmleyMoor | I assume one of the security problems to which you refer is the integere overflow in the Skinny channel driver? |
| 11:19.32 | EmleyMoor | Ah, no, that's even older! |
| 11:19.33 | Kwakwa | EmleyMoor: Unless you're in a production environment and your boss will hang you for any downtime to his/her callcentre, I really do suggest you install the latest version of asterisk. There's lots of fixes for problems you might come into in an older version. |
| 11:19.35 | JT | that was one |
| 11:21.16 | EmleyMoor | I just want rid of the echo |
| 11:21.49 | Kwakwa | Have you tried a more recent version to see if the echo still exists? |
| 11:22.15 | EmleyMoor | Not as yet - I will probably do so when time permits though |
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| 11:23.46 | EmleyMoor | I doubt it will fix it, TBJ |
| 11:23.49 | EmleyMoor | TBH |
| 11:24.20 | Strom_M | emley: you could have tried it in the time youve spent kvetching, you know |
| 11:25.01 | Kwakwa | I just compiled 1.4.6 while you've been on here tbh :) |
| 11:26.21 | Kwakwa | wget http://ftp.digium.com/pub/asterisk/releases/asterisk-1.4.6.tar.gz; apt-get install build-essential bison ncurses-dev libssl-dev libnewt-dev zlib1g-dev initrd-tools cvs procps; make; make install; make samples |
| 11:26.26 | Kwakwa | assuming you're running debian |
| 11:26.27 | JT | i takes abut 5mins to recompile everything |
| 11:26.34 | JT | on an average machine |
| 11:27.38 | EmleyMoor | Yes - then there's all my configs to put into place... OK, fair enough, it doesn't take long, but when there's other equally productive and essential things getting in the way... |
| 11:28.14 | Kwakwa | back up your config files |
| 11:28.27 | JT | cp /etc/asterisk * /some/backup/location |
| 11:28.29 | JT | compile |
| 11:28.39 | JT | cp /some/backup/location/* /etc/asterisk |
| 11:28.49 | JT | anyway, it doesn't usually overwrite them |
| 11:30.31 | EmleyMoor | At least my dialplan will be safe (apart from perhaps needing some rewrites for custom sound location) |
| 11:30.39 | EmleyMoor | It now has 862 priorities |
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| 11:31.07 | EmleyMoor | Is there a list anywhere of all that 1.4 considers deprecated (or worse, no longer supports)? |
| 11:31.22 | JT | i was talking about upgrading to the latest 1.2 |
| 11:31.32 | EmleyMoor | JT: Yes - and that will be tried first |
| 11:31.46 | Kwakwa | You could check the changes log |
| 11:32.04 | JT | UPGRADE.txt |
| 11:32.05 | EmleyMoor | Kwakwa: Good point |
| 11:32.09 | JT | for 1.4 |
| 11:32.18 | Kwakwa | http://ftp1.digium.com/pub/asterisk/ChangeLog-1.4.6 |
| 11:32.26 | EmleyMoor | I'm not using anything 1.2 considers deprected, to the best of my knowledge |
| 11:32.40 | JT | Kwakwa: there's a better file for the 1.2 to 1.4 transition |
| 11:33.02 | JT | anyway, if you have echo, and really want to get rid of it, look into hardware echo cancellation |
| 11:33.04 | Kwakwa | ahh, my apologies |
| 11:33.14 | k31th | If you guys where going to start using voip and needed pbx for your client base, how would you go about do it... Iv thought of just using Trixbox for them all this is by far the easy'st option... my other thought is perhaps CentOS + Asterisk and installing freepbx... only thing i would be missing is the phone manager? but i could do the provisioning by hand using info from the phone manufacture? and just drop the configs by tftp but would be more w |
| 11:33.18 | EmleyMoor | JT: That costs |
| 11:33.38 | JT | yes, good telecommunications equipment costs money :) |
| 11:34.08 | Kwakwa | We were quoted £10k just to upgrade to the latest software version of our intertel cab |
| 11:34.17 | Kwakwa | thus we said "nah" and went for * :) |
| 11:34.22 | EmleyMoor | I wouldn't mind but if I want that I not only have to pay for that but for far more than I actually need |
| 11:34.25 | Strom__ | k31th: avoid freepbx, trixbox, and the like |
| 11:34.26 | JT | k31th: trixbox/freepbx aren't really support here |
| 11:34.38 | Strom__ | EmleyMoor: get the HPEC from digium |
| 11:34.41 | JT | k31th: btw, that line got cut off, try not to write so much at once. |
| 11:34.43 | k31th | Strom__: how would you do the admin then ? |
| 11:34.52 | EmleyMoor | Strom__: I have enquired |
| 11:34.54 | Strom__ | it's free for as many channels as you have on your card |
| 11:34.54 | k31th | sorry yeah i was rambling a bit :p |
| 11:34.56 | JT | k31th: also, what is "easy'st"? |
| 11:35.00 | Strom__ | k31th: vim |
| 11:35.02 | Strom__ | or emacs :) |
| 11:35.06 | JT | k31th: ssh + vi |
| 11:35.33 | k31th | Strom__: you do it all by hand then |
| 11:35.48 | JT | k31th: which is what most people do |
| 11:35.59 | k31th | Takes more time? |
| 11:36.02 | JT | no |
| 11:36.10 | Strom__ | gives you far more control |
| 11:36.15 | Strom__ | and takes less time :) |
| 11:36.23 | k31th | Infact, I setup trixbox and iv done asterisk from scratch. |
| 11:36.28 | JT | management tools waste far more time, when you get stuck with a problem you can't solve or a feature you want to implement |
| 11:36.36 | JT | management tools like freepbx |
| 11:36.37 | k31th | and i got the asterisk from scratch done far quicker. |
| 11:37.30 | k31th | freepbx just writes to the confs tho? |
| 11:37.39 | Strom__ | no |
| 11:37.59 | Strom__ | freepbx is the creeping thing from Hell that takes over your dialplan and makes debugging next to impossible |
| 11:38.04 | k31th | if this like the eq of a noob that knows nothing of unix using webmin ? |
| 11:39.08 | k31th | Wat is the best distro for asterisk and do you guys use a packaged version? or src |
| 11:39.31 | Strom__ | the best distro is whatever you can admin most effectively |
| 11:39.35 | JT | what distro are you most familiar with? |
| 11:39.37 | Strom__ | and always compile from source |
| 11:39.38 | JT | i use debian |
| 11:39.41 | k31th | im a bit against installing src on distros like RHE or Debian / Ubuntu atm as it seems bad practice ? |
| 11:39.55 | Strom__ | it's not bad practice |
| 11:39.58 | k31th | JT: iv used most. |
| 11:40.00 | Strom__ | the packages lag |
| 11:40.07 | alrs | k31th: I've had good luck running packaged Asterisk on Debian. |
| 11:40.24 | k31th | Debian i would say has been most kind to me. |
| 11:40.25 | Strom__ | security holes, bugs, etc etc etc etc |
| 11:40.29 | Strom__ | i like debian |
| 11:40.38 | JT | k31th: you can always turn asterisk you compile into a package on your distro |
| 11:40.40 | Strom__ | but i won't touch the asterisk package with a ten foot pole |
| 11:40.52 | alrs | Strom__: The Debian maintainer of Asterisk leaves holes open? |
| 11:41.08 | k31th | JT: yeah i would most likely do that if i go down that route. |
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| 11:41.29 | JT | alrs: the version is just old |
| 11:41.38 | Strom__ | alrs: the version of asterisk that comes with debian stable is 1.2.12. we're on 1.2.20 now |
| 11:41.40 | alrs | JT: old is OK by me |
| 11:41.42 | k31th | Do you guys provision via tftp ? |
| 11:41.44 | Strom__ | you tell me |
| 11:41.48 | JT | alrs: old = security holes |
| 11:41.50 | JT | not so okay |
| 11:42.00 | k31th | I am thinking about getting Snom phones |
| 11:42.04 | alrs | JT: The Debian security team isn't patching holes? |
| 11:42.06 | JT | get polycom |
| 11:42.24 | k31th | JT: they are better? |
| 11:42.28 | JT | the best |
| 11:42.44 | k31th | can i work them with AD? |
| 11:42.53 | k31th | be good for clients. |
| 11:42.54 | JT | ad? |
| 11:43.04 | k31th | Active Directory |
| 11:43.09 | JT | they have nothing to do with ad |
| 11:43.13 | Kwakwa | JT: I have polycom 330's, do you have the latest sip firmware installed? |
| 11:43.16 | JT | not sure what relation they'd have |
| 11:43.16 | k31th | the phone book i mean. |
| 11:43.24 | JT | k31th: i don't have a 330 myself |
| 11:43.28 | JT | Kwakwa: even |
| 11:43.45 | Kwakwa | JT: Which Polycom phone(s) do you have? |
| 11:43.48 | k31th | snom u can pull phone book form LDAP / AD |
| 11:44.13 | JT | Kwakwa: 301, 430, 501 |
| 11:44.18 | Strom__ | http://www.jerkcity.com/jerkcity514.html |
| 11:44.27 | k31th | Another thing, wat about click to call and or Outlook plugin? |
| 11:44.34 | JT | k31th: polycoms have a microbrowser, might do what you want |
| 11:44.35 | Kwakwa | JT: That in a production environment or personal use? |
| 11:44.41 | JT | click to call is phone independant |
| 11:44.50 | k31th | I know. |
| 11:44.54 | JT | Kwakwa: that's just my ones i have for myself |
| 11:44.59 | Kwakwa | ahh |
| 11:45.02 | k31th | but im thinking how do i do that with straight asterisk. |
| 11:45.09 | alrs | JT: Which security advisory should I be looking at on 1.2.13? |
| 11:45.17 | k31th | also the outlook plugin is handy. |
| 11:45.25 | JT | k31th: .call files |
| 11:45.29 | JT | or AMI originate |
| 11:45.46 | k31th | so u can right click contacts in outlook and select call. |
| 11:46.01 | k31th | trixbox uses some thing called HUDlite. |
| 11:46.08 | k31th | not sure if its FOSS tho. |
| 11:46.24 | Strom__ | it's more like a flaming pile of dogshit than FOSS |
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| 11:47.31 | k31th | Strom__: lol |
| 11:47.48 | k31th | it does not feel to great but it does seem to work. |
| 11:47.59 | k31th | Strom__: know of an equiv ? |
| 11:48.27 | Strom__ | polycom 601 sets with sidecars |
| 11:48.35 | Strom__ | buttons > point and drool |
| 11:49.04 | alrs | Strom__: Which Polycom firmware do you need to be at for the sidecars to behave reliably? |
| 11:50.01 | Strom__ | i just use the latest one |
| 11:50.37 | Strom__ | which is 2.1.2 or somesuch right now |
| 11:51.17 | k31th | Strom__: thats a bit of hardware that sits next to the phone? |
| 11:52.24 | Strom__ | k31th: it's an adjunct unit with 14 line appearance buttons |
| 11:53.45 | k31th | http://www.provu.co.uk/protalk.html is some thing i looked at but then i looked into it more looks like freepbx banged on an asterisk box on a solid state system. |
| 11:55.40 | Strom__ | just build it yourself |
| 11:55.51 | alrs | I went to the HAM swap in west LA yesterday morning and went digging for crappy Intel 537 softmodems. |
| 11:55.58 | alrs | aka "Digium X100P" |
| 11:56.07 | Strom__ | alrs: was that the TRW swapmeet? |
| 11:56.13 | alrs | Yup |
| 11:56.14 | Strom__ | alrs: don't waste your time |
| 11:56.24 | Strom__ | that card works like junk |
| 11:56.32 | alrs | Strom__ I know they're terrible. |
| 11:56.33 | Strom__ | damnit, i keep missing the swapmeet |
| 11:56.38 | k31th | I bought one of those lol... I got it and thought this looks like a fucking win modem ? |
| 11:56.50 | k31th | i paid like 8 quid of it. |
| 11:56.50 | Strom__ | ~cheap |
| 11:57.09 | jbot | cheap is probably a bad idea. If you're setting up an Asterisk system, one of the wisest pieces of advice you can take is this: DON'T BE A CHEAPSKATE. |
| 11:57.09 | alrs | I paid $2 this morning |
| 11:57.09 | k31th | for* |
| 11:57.10 | k31th | lol |
| 11:57.10 | alrs | only becuase I couldn't see haggling over it |
| 11:57.13 | k31th | thats like 1 UKP |
| 11:57.35 | alrs | The clones are a lot more tolerable when you run them with oslec |
| 11:57.44 | k31th | oslec? |
| 11:57.45 | alrs | I'd never recommend anyone use one in a business |
| 11:57.52 | alrs | but they're handy for providing a timing source |
| 11:57.54 | k31th | haha |
| 11:57.56 | drzed | little supid question: (why) is it not possible to use a gsm-mobile e.g. w/ bluetooth as "gsm-gateway"? (why) is it neccesaary to by gsm-card costing arround 1k$? |
| 11:58.14 | JT | drzed: you can |
| 11:58.16 | alrs | k31th: oslec is the shit |
| 11:58.17 | JT | chan_cellphone |
| 11:58.18 | alrs | http://www.rowetel.com/ucasterisk/oslec.html |
| 11:58.55 | k31th | alrs: this is if my card does not have hardware echo cancel ? |
| 11:59.22 | alrs | k31th: yes |
| 11:59.30 | drzed | JT: without any (severe) disadvantages? would it be useable in a productive environment? |
| 12:00.00 | JT | drzed: depends, are you going to have piles of phones? that doesn't sound ideal |
| 12:00.35 | drzed | JT: actually one (maybe two) would be certainly enough |
| 12:00.53 | k31th | Just installing debian now |
| 12:01.11 | JT | it wouldn't be as reliable as a gsm card or external gsm gateway imho, but should suffice for a lot of applications |
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| 12:01.57 | alrs | I've been digging through reams of Motorola PDFs trying to find a way to enable the PTT button using AT commands |
| 12:02.09 | alrs | I have a couple of boost handsets that have been flashed to enable mototalk |
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| 12:05.32 | Strom__ | http://www.jerkcity.com/jerkcity190.html |
| 12:05.43 | k31th | one massivly shit thing i have noticed about trixbox is no raid support |
| 12:05.45 | drzed | JT: thx, i'll google arround for it a bit |
| 12:08.05 | Strom__ | one massively shit thing i've noticed about trixbox is that it exists in the first place |
| 12:10.27 | k31th | lol Strom__ your pbx's on deb ? |
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| 12:24.57 | k31th | to get the latest stable source i take it i can get it from a mirror. i dont want to be pulling the cvs for a production box. |
| 12:25.12 | JT | asterisk.org |
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| 12:26.31 | knarfly | I just rebuilt using FreeBSD-6.2 and *-1.4.4 |
| 12:27.42 | knarfly | Loaded all the options but I'm getting an error message about radius client. Can I turn this off somehow? |
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| 13:39.18 | CpuID | hey ppls, any preferences for which zaptel echo canceller algorithm/engine to use? |
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| 14:10.51 | monstertruck | hi |
| 14:11.02 | monstertruck | is there a way to force a remote reboot on a spa3102? |
| 14:11.19 | monstertruck | http://x.x.x.x/admin/reboot will wait until the unit is idle |
| 14:11.44 | k31th | can the linksys SPA phones have an xml address book ? |
| 14:11.56 | k31th | or a ldap address book ? |
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| 14:16.42 | polerin | monstertruck: a hammer? ;P |
| 14:17.07 | monstertruck | polerin, remotely .. woud have to throw the hammer :) |
| 14:20.51 | k31th | comcast are a cable company in the US? |
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| 14:22.31 | JT | k31th: yes, we call them spamcast here |
| 14:22.40 | k31th | lol |
| 14:22.53 | JT | so many owned pcs with spambots |
| 14:23.03 | crimethinker | indeed |
| 14:23.25 | k31th | and botnets no doubt. |
| 14:23.47 | k31th | ud think they would just block port 25 inbound ? |
| 14:23.57 | polerin | .. |
| 14:24.01 | polerin | no generally not :P |
| 14:24.07 | JT | oh, irc bots too |
| 14:24.25 | polerin | they do block off port 25 if you are detected sending off too much |
| 14:24.34 | k31th | irc ahhh mainly for botnet stuff no doubt |
| 14:24.45 | polerin | then you get the fun of calling abuse |
| 14:24.50 | polerin | which is running 6 months behind |
| 14:24.57 | rob0 | There's no use in blocking 25 inbound. |
| 14:25.07 | polerin | rob0: they block it outbound |
| 14:25.10 | k31th | my isp blocks port 25 only port they do block u have to call them to get it opened and they do an open relay test. |
| 14:25.13 | polerin | rob0: but only if you abuse it :P |
| 14:25.20 | k31th | rob0: they can just spam out i guess yeah |
| 14:25.31 | rob0 | yeah, my outbound 25 still works. |
| 14:25.39 | rob0 | last I checked |
| 14:25.43 | polerin | k31th: comcast is one of the largest isp's if not THE largest isp in the US |
| 14:25.57 | k31th | are they good? |
| 14:26.01 | polerin | that depends |
| 14:26.05 | polerin | what are you expecting from them |
| 14:26.06 | polerin | :P |
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| 14:26.25 | crimethinker | the largest isp is uunet. |
| 14:26.26 | rob0 | Is there any "good" ISP in the USA? |
| 14:26.41 | crimethinker | rob0: speakeasy, if you don't mind being a best buy customer. |
| 14:26.56 | polerin | crimethinker: ... I thought UUnet was backbone only **shrugs** |
| 14:27.03 | rob0 | yeah, I've heard of speakeasy, but they're not anywhere near me. |
| 14:27.20 | polerin | they are a Covad reseller |
| 14:27.23 | crimethinker | you asked about USA. you got a USA answer |
| 14:27.41 | polerin | (speakeasy that is) |
| 14:28.07 | polerin | anyway, comcast i can talk about, I work the the assholes :) |
| 14:28.09 | rob0 | they're not national, or at least not in the areas where I need service. |
| 14:28.24 | polerin | speakeasy is a consumer isp only .. no? |
| 14:28.34 | polerin | they don't do sdsl or buisness turnaround |
| 14:29.19 | polerin | comcast is mostly a consumer ISP, but it does have a buisness product. Main differentiation is the avalibility of a static and a supposid 4 hour turnaround |
| 14:29.39 | polerin | (supposid because apparently no customers actually read their contract and try to enforce it) |
| 14:30.06 | rob0 | I would consider upgrading my home comcast to business, but I don't trust them to provide business-class service. |
| 14:30.22 | polerin | rob0: What are you expecting of them? |
| 14:31.30 | rob0 | Well, I'm in a rural area with poor electric service, outages and flickers all the time. I would want the entire infrastructure of nodes to be on power backups. |
| 14:31.39 | polerin | hmm |
| 14:31.48 | rob0 | As it is, when the power flickers, my connection dies. |
| 14:31.52 | polerin | do they advertise Digital Voice (heh) in your area? |
| 14:31.58 | rob0 | not sure |
| 14:32.01 | polerin | ok |
| 14:32.09 | crimethinker | polerin, speakeasy does sdsl. |
| 14:32.17 | rob0 | Florence, AL if you're interested. |
| 14:32.22 | polerin | In general they don't roll out DV untill all of the power supplies have battery backups |
| 14:33.20 | polerin | rob0: I wouldn't even know where to start asking about that info, and I wouldn't trust customer service to tell you a truthfull answer even if they were local to your area. (our call center handles part of AL,MI,and a couple other areas XD) |
| 14:33.29 | polerin | is your modem on a ups? |
| 14:33.41 | rob0 | of course ... an enormous one. |
| 14:33.48 | polerin | just making sure :p |
| 14:33.50 | rob0 | along with the computer |
| 14:34.00 | polerin | then yeah, it's likely that they don't have battery backup. |
| 14:34.17 | rob0 | And you're right, they did lie to me last time I asked. |
| 14:34.32 | polerin | most power flickers with backup power supplies would give you a moment of packet loss but not lost synch |
| 14:34.44 | rob0 | CS is in Huntsville during the day, Nashville after hours. |
| 14:35.02 | polerin | nods. What did you ask them? |
| 14:35.43 | rob0 | hmmm, this was some time back, don't remember exactly. |
| 14:36.11 | rob0 | MI is Michigan, perhaps you meant MS? :) |
| 14:36.17 | polerin | There is alot of stuff the Call center is asked that they just don't have the training or access too, and they can't pass it along because it can be hard to find out who's actually responsible for that stuff (In metro nashville I would ask Engineering about power supplies, or possibly the PM/DM Line techs) |
| 14:36.40 | polerin | yeah MS ;P |
| 14:36.51 | polerin | ok. actuall * related question. |
| 14:36.59 | rob0 | The call center really sucks. |
| 14:37.20 | polerin | don't get me started on them. I spend all day cleaning up their mess |
| 14:37.38 | rob0 | but, usually I can get by with the "L" word, because I make it clear I'm not asking them to "support my OS." |
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| 14:37.52 | polerin | heh |
| 14:39.02 | polerin | I got freaked out, one of our outer county techs who I talk too a fair bit is a fedora fan.. This is weird because the techs I talk frequently are not generally tech savy enough to do more than plug the modem into the ether net port (occasinally plugging the usb in as well) |
| 14:40.04 | polerin | but to be fair, the selfprov software doesn't run half the time, installs broadjump, and is flakey. So he tends to call in to have me push the modem :P |
| 14:40.18 | polerin | anywayregister => phonnum@sip.broadvoice.com:passwerd:phonnum@sip.broadvoice.com |
| 14:41.22 | polerin | this comes in at the right context, but with the phone number as the extention, even if I specify /s at the end |
| 14:41.42 | rob0 | "Comcast Digital Voice service is not yet available at the address you entered." Heh, but I've been using VoIP from there for > 3 years. :) |
| 14:42.02 | polerin | yeah |
| 14:42.21 | polerin | it meens they don't have a switch there, and don't have the plant in good enough shape to do it yet |
| 14:43.25 | polerin | is it something in the peer setup? |
| 14:43.43 | rob0 | So put the phone number in your dialplan? |
| 14:44.04 | polerin | I did. Trying to figure out why it's doing that though, just for my understanding. |
| 14:44.33 | polerin | is s more for catching zap lines that don't have specific stuff in it? |
| 14:44.35 | rob0 | I can't help there, I kind of lurk here to try to pick up bits of understanding as well. |
| 14:44.41 | polerin | lol |
| 14:45.05 | rob0 | I've got basics working, would eventually like to do fancy things. |
| 14:45.06 | polerin | well, I'm a complete newb to *, barely got the peer working last night |
| 14:45.34 | polerin | I've got in and out now, but there are quirks that I want to understand before I move on and get the real stuff set up |
| 14:45.42 | rob0 | You can tell that in the 3+ years I haven't put a lot of time into it. :) |
| 14:45.49 | polerin | heh |
| 14:46.09 | polerin | I've been focusing on webdev stuff mostly. |
| 14:46.48 | polerin | but my wife is starting her own buisness, so I figured there's no better time than now to get the phones working |
| 14:47.45 | crimethinker | "The OSU Medical Center is requesting proposals for network monitoring system to enhnace its network quality of service." whoa boy, I wonder how many folks would just go install nagios for them and charge 50000 |
| 14:52.18 | polerin | hmm, so is there any way to change what extension when including? |
| 14:53.31 | polerin | s/what extension/the effective extension/ |
| 14:53.55 | polerin | I like that :D |
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| 15:12.04 | linex | ok, so if my asterisk is behind a nat and my clients are also behind a nat. Is it doable to get connection ? |
| 15:12.33 | linex | .. and my clients are behind ANOTHER nat .... |
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| 15:13.53 | monstertruck | linex use a stun server |
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| 15:14.29 | linex | monstertruck : that'll solve the situation ? |
| 15:14.38 | monstertruck | linex, yup |
| 15:15.12 | monstertruck | here: stun.fwdnet.org, that one is public |
| 15:16.31 | monstertruck | theres also a setting in sip.conf you need to change if * is behind nat |
| 15:16.37 | monstertruck | use externip=whatever |
| 15:16.53 | monstertruck | whatever your outside ip is |
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| 15:17.36 | monstertruck | linex, and .. if you are using iax, disregard all that |
| 15:18.16 | linex | iax is better or sip is better ? |
| 15:18.35 | mosty | iax is a nicer protocol, but almost no hardware supports it |
| 15:20.24 | linex | stun.fwdnet.org - bad link |
| 15:22.10 | linex | I have spare machines, can I run my own stun server ? |
| 15:23.03 | mosty | what are you trying to do? |
| 15:25.23 | SuPrSluG | zaptel 1.4.2.1 build error zaptel-base.c:787: error: `fcstab' undeclared (first use in this function) . kernel = 2.6.7 Any ideas? |
| 15:26.11 | mosty | that kernel is ancient, i'd recommend upgrading that first |
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| 15:30.30 | linex | monstertruck: my asterisk is behind a nat and my clients are also behind a another nat. I'm trying to get them connected. |
| 15:31.43 | monstertruck | linex, what are your clients using to make calls? |
| 15:31.50 | mosty | linex, do you have a linux machine at each end? |
| 15:31.55 | monstertruck | softphones? hardphones? |
| 15:32.01 | linex | softphones |
| 15:32.07 | linex | yes linux machines |
| 15:32.11 | monstertruck | linex, then use iax |
| 15:32.15 | monstertruck | and forget about nat |
| 15:32.39 | mosty | linex, run asterisk at each end and use IAX between them. the sip softphones will talk to the local asterisk machine |
| 15:32.59 | linex | you mean the problem is only with sip, with iax no problem . Is that correct ? |
| 15:33.09 | monstertruck | linex, yes |
| 15:33.38 | linex | hmm interesting. |
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| 15:34.03 | mosty | linex, plus IAX uses less bandwidth than SIP |
| 15:34.21 | linex | any softphones that runs on windows that also can use iax ? |
| 15:35.08 | mosty | linex, probably not any good ones. just use sip between the softphone and a local asterisk box, and let the asterisk boxes talk using iax |
| 15:35.57 | linex | m |
| 15:36.18 | linex | mosty: u don't understand, I have a nats. |
| 15:36.39 | linex | I mean nat behind asterisk and another nat behind clients |
| 15:37.01 | linex | using iax , this is a non-issue. So thats solved |
| 15:37.18 | RypPn | linex: idefisk is an iax client for windows |
| 15:37.30 | linex | i run ekiga or idedisk on the linux machines clients |
| 15:37.41 | linex | oh ya |
| 15:37.42 | SuPrSluG | mosty: I'd be doing a remote kernel upgrade |
| 15:37.49 | mosty | linex, the clients are on the same lan as your linux box though right? |
| 15:37.59 | linex | idefisk has iax , yeh |
| 15:38.09 | linex | mosty nope |
| 15:38.29 | linex | clients behind one nat |
| 15:38.37 | linex | asterisk behind another nat |
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| 15:39.07 | mosty | ahh ok |
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| 15:39.17 | linex | clients all behind one nat. not different nats |
| 15:40.00 | linex | well actually ... some behind other nats |
| 15:41.08 | linex | so I may have clientA behind nat1 , clientB behind nat2 and the asterisk box behind nat3. So if I'm using iax, this is a non-issue, right ? |
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| 15:41.45 | linex | and if I use sip, I need to use a stun server. Ok I understand that perfectly. |
| 15:43.11 | mosty | normally you'd put the asterisk box on a public ip and use sip or iax whatever you prefer |
| 15:43.44 | mosty | if the asterisk box is behind nat then sip is a pain in the arse |
| 15:44.23 | linex | yeah I know but this is just something I'm playing with at home. |
| 15:44.50 | linex | I'm gonna have asterisk at home and have people use it to talk to each other |
| 15:45.18 | mosty | it would be simpler to just use FWD or something |
| 15:45.44 | linex | using iax sounds simpler |
| 15:45.53 | mosty | FWD is even simpler |
| 15:45.57 | mosty | no asterisk box at all |
| 15:46.23 | linex | I'm sorry I have not read the manual. I don't know what FWD means |
| 15:47.17 | linex | is it like direct connection . softphone to softphone ? |
| 15:47.20 | mosty | http://www.freeworlddialup.com/ |
| 15:47.29 | linex | thanks |
| 15:49.25 | linex | WOW |
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| 15:51.31 | linex | I bet those FWD guys using asterisks |
| 15:51.47 | linex | a whole bunch of asterisk servers |
| 15:53.34 | mosty | i would think it's ser or openser, not asterisk |
| 15:53.53 | mosty | since they handle much higher loads than asterisk can |
| 15:57.45 | rob0 | Last time I tried with FWD, their SIP was broken. IAX worked fine. But this was not recent. |
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| 16:02.02 | linex | So when two client made a connection and start talking, the connection or talking is made thru asterisk or is direct like p2p apps works ? |
| 16:05.42 | linex | I mean if the conversation goes thru asterisk, then it is possible for asterisk to record the conversation or else recording can only be made on the client side. |
| 16:11.38 | mosty | linex, depends how asterisk is setup |
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| 16:22.27 | rue_mohr | wonder how you measure THD... |
| 16:22.36 | rue_mohr | digitally that is |
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| 16:55.27 | WindBack | [TK]D-Fender, |
| 16:55.30 | WindBack | hello |
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| 16:56.14 | Dovid | is there jitter buffer for sip on 1.2.x ? |
| 16:57.35 | WindBack | what port I need to forward in my NAT router if I'm using Xlite in a client inside de LAN??? |
| 16:57.47 | WindBack | 5060 tcp and udp and??? |
| 16:58.04 | WindBack | a range of UDP |
| 16:58.11 | WindBack | but what range??? |
| 16:59.04 | [TK]D-Fender | 5060,10000-20000 *ALL UDP* |
| 16:59.35 | [TK]D-Fender | WindBack, thats for * being behind NAT. if youa re talking about a REMOTE X-lite behind NAT you don't ahve to forward ANYTHING |
| 17:00.36 | WindBack | [TK]D-Fender, yes but in this case I have to use a stun server |
| 17:00.47 | [TK]D-Fender | WindBack, No, you don't |
| 17:00.51 | WindBack | or not?? |
| 17:00.57 | Dovid | no stun with asterisk |
| 17:01.07 | Dovid | (or rather asterisk dosent have a setting in it for STUN) |
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| 17:03.10 | [TK]D-Fender | Asterisk doesn't support STUN, and your client does not need it either in this case. |
| 17:03.22 | WindBack | [TK]D-Fender, If I'm using Xlite inside a LAN who have a NAT router, and the asterisk is outside this LAN... Do I need to forward anything for the clien??? |
| 17:03.55 | [TK]D-Fender | WindBack, again : NO |
| 17:05.44 | WindBack | [TK]D-Fender, excuse me for say the same thing again and again, but I red in a lot of place that I have to forward ports |
| 17:05.59 | [TK]D-Fender | WindBack, Get over it. |
| 17:09.31 | WindBack | [TK]D-Fender, ok, thank you |
| 17:09.51 | WindBack | I'll be back in a minute |
| 17:10.43 | Dovid | is there jitter buffer for sip on 1.2.x ? |
| 17:11.13 | [TK]D-Fender | Dovid, Go DL it and find out |
| 17:11.15 | rue_mohr | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decibel#Voltage |
| 17:11.23 | rue_mohr | phones are 600ohm aren't they? |
| 17:11.44 | [TK]D-Fender | rue_mohr, Sounds like what I remember. |
| 17:12.01 | [TK]D-Fender | rue_mohr, impedence mismatch is one cause of echo. |
| 17:12.05 | rue_mohr | so 1mW is .775Vrms |
| 17:12.16 | rue_mohr | I'm glad I dont have echo |
| 17:13.21 | rue_mohr | there is a digital 1mW tone gen in asterisk isn't ehre? |
| 17:14.43 | [TK]D-Fender | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk+cmd+Milliwatt |
| 17:20.16 | rue_mohr | dialing on my phone is interesting, "is it distorted, or does it SOUND distorted?" |
| 17:20.47 | rue_mohr | CAN YOU HEAR ME NOOWWW!!!??? }:) |
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| 17:43.41 | JoelSolanki | hi all |
| 17:45.31 | JoelSolanki | i have some requirement for call monitoing for asteris. |
| 17:45.42 | JoelSolanki | i want to monitor all incoming and outgoing calls in asterisk and display in browser refresing every 30 seconds |
| 17:45.51 | JoelSolanki | is there any open source code available for this ? |
| 17:45.58 | JoelSolanki | or if i want to create how can i get incoming/outoing data in real ? |
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| 19:21.22 | BSD_Tech | ok I found a issue I am baffeld over |
| 19:21.34 | BSD_Tech | brb |
| 19:21.59 | Strom__ | it stands for "be right back" - i don't understand what's so baffling about that one |
| 19:22.21 | dc3aes | ha |
| 19:23.09 | BSD_Tech | ok I found a issue with 1.4.5 |
| 19:23.56 | BSD_Tech | that is starts reandoming going threw the [app-name] when you try to use a the # key |
| 19:24.08 | Strom__ | uh |
| 19:24.11 | Strom__ | English please |
| 19:24.32 | BSD_Tech | when I hit the # key |
| 19:25.01 | BSD_Tech | it starts randomly going to diff [app-??????] |
| 19:25.19 | Strom__ | under what conditions are you pressing #? |
| 19:25.22 | BSD_Tech | insted of what its mapped to wich is the company dir |
| 19:25.33 | BSD_Tech | hti # dial |
| 19:25.41 | BSD_Tech | it should go to the company dir |
| 19:25.49 | Strom__ | oh christ, you're not actually using # as an extension all on its own, are you? |
| 19:26.00 | BSD_Tech | but its not it goes to random [app?????] |
| 19:26.04 | Strom__ | didn't you listen to me when I said "don't use # as an extension"? |
| 19:26.27 | Strom__ | # means "I am finished dialing - put the call through" |
| 19:26.27 | BSD_Tech | I have always used # for coampany dir |
| 19:27.00 | BSD_Tech | never had a issue till 1.4.5 |
| 19:27.08 | Strom__ | well, try 1.4.6 then |
| 19:27.13 | BSD_Tech | now its screwing up |
| 19:27.17 | Strom__ | see if that fixes the bug |
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| 19:27.28 | BSD_Tech | when did i.4.6 come out |
| 19:27.36 | Kwakwa | 29th |
| 19:27.39 | Strom__ | read the topic |
| 19:27.39 | BSD_Tech | ok |
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| 19:28.08 | BSD_Tech | grrr |
| 19:28.09 | BSD_Tech | ok |
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| 20:00.36 | Damin | I just made some awesome chicken soup.. |
| 20:05.45 | rob0 | Aha! And to be on topic, you can SIP it now. |
| 20:09.57 | BSD_Tech | ok I found the issue and fixed it |
| 20:10.09 | BSD_Tech | I removed app- |
| 20:10.26 | BSD_Tech | and it stopped randomly choosing a applicaion |
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| 20:10.49 | BSD_Tech | when I dialed # |
| 20:11.37 | Strom_C | what "app-" are you talking about |
| 20:16.15 | [TK]D-Fender | Strom_C, he's working on a dialplan thats grown too big for its britches :) |
| 20:17.29 | BSD_Tech | no it only broke on 1.4.5 |
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| 20:17.43 | BSD_Tech | I just tested it on a 1.4.4 box ad does not actup |
| 20:17.49 | foug1 | hi, does asterisk have a respository to download from? i'm having trouble finding the depencies so i can use ,/configure and make |
| 20:20.13 | _VoiceMeUp_COM | little question for yall i really need a macro for VM with multiple extensions ? else the Voicemail ( su#@default) will not let me press 0 correect ? so to access the VM admin from the number directly its macro to exten => o,1,VoiceMailMain |
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| 20:21.54 | [TK]D-Fender | _VoiceMeUp_COM, this has NOTHING to do with macros |
| 20:22.22 | _VoiceMeUp_COM | yes but the way to go around that is that ? |
| 20:22.38 | _VoiceMeUp_COM | or is there another way |
| 20:22.49 | Dovid | TK: May I PM ?> |
| 20:23.02 | [TK]D-Fender | _VoiceMeUp_COM, Whereever you call Voicemail, you'll want to have an "o". |
| 20:23.13 | [TK]D-Fender | Dovid, if you're looking to hire me, sure ;) |
| 20:23.25 | Dovid | lol |
| 20:23.26 | _VoiceMeUp_COM | yes.. but if i have 100 extensions.. with 100 different acocount #'s .. then i can only have 1 o |
| 20:23.42 | _VoiceMeUp_COM | or hmm let me try |
| 20:23.43 | russellb | _VoiceMeUp_COM: your nick drives me crazy |
| 20:23.52 | Dovid | i update the SpanDSP page. for the future if an1 asks for it on 1.4.X |
| 20:23.54 | Dovid | http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Mini-Asterisk-PBX-VoIP-PSTN-in-Linksys-WI-FI-router-USB_W0QQitemZ330140619065QQihZ014QQcategoryZ61841QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| 20:23.55 | Dovid | oops |
| 20:24.02 | [TK]D-Fender | _VoiceMeUp_COM, You are not understading the basics of extenions.conf! This isn't a VM issue! |
| 20:24.03 | Dovid | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/spandsp |
| 20:24.06 | russellb | if you want to have that nick for customeres to find you, fine. but *please* try to use something else for what you use for discussion ... |
| 20:24.44 | Dovid | russellb: advertising ;) some people are advertising ****** |
| 20:24.44 | [TK]D-Fender | _VoiceMeUp_COM, "o" needs to be accessable in the context that CALLS's VoiceMail. |
| 20:24.44 | russellb | right, and this is not a commercial chat room ... advertising is not welcome |
| 20:24.46 | Dovid | hehe |
| 20:24.46 | _VoiceMeUp_COM | hold on let me make russellb happy |
| 20:24.51 | Dovid | :) |
| 20:25.00 | russellb | thank you :) |
| 20:25.04 | Voicemeup | that better ;) |
| 20:25.29 | russellb | well, i'm not thrilled, but it's better :) |
| 20:25.53 | Strom_C | Voicemeup: presumably russell wants something that doesn't include the phrase "voicemeup" |
| 20:26.05 | russellb | i'll compromise on that |
| 20:26.16 | russellb | the whole _COM thing was really what was over the edge for me :) |
| 20:26.26 | [TK]D-Fender | russellb, we don't negociate with TERRISTS! |
| 20:26.32 | russellb | hehe |
| 20:26.33 | Strom_C | yow |
| 20:26.35 | Strom_C | spelling |
| 20:26.37 | Strom_C | ouch |
| 20:26.59 | [TK]D-Fender | Strom_C, its a GWB joke FFS.... |
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| 20:27.22 | Strom_C | yeah, but "negociate"? |
| 20:27.25 | Strom_C | please :) |
| 20:28.11 | [TK]D-Fender | me grabs whats left of Strom_C's sense of humour, puts it in a brown paper bag, stomps on it, lights it ablaze, douses it in horse-piss (translation : Budweiser), lights it up AGAIN, stomps it out and hands it back. |
| 20:28.24 | Strom_C | thanks !!! |
| 20:28.29 | [TK]D-Fender | And darn it for not having a leading slash! |
| 20:28.41 | russellb | pwned |
| 20:28.59 | [TK]D-Fender | russellb, I did enough in there to negate reproach ;) |
| 20:31.59 | BSD_Tech | ok you say extensions ahould never start with # yet in features.conf #72 for autoparking |
| 20:32.36 | russellb | that's not an extension :) |
| 20:32.41 | BSD_Tech | and when enabled it goes right to a busy tone |
| 20:32.45 | russellb | that's a call featuer ... |
| 20:32.49 | russellb | feature* |
| 20:32.54 | Strom_C | BSD_Tech: busy and reorder tones are not the same thing |
| 20:33.05 | Strom_C | reorder tone is twice as fast as busy tone |
| 20:33.40 | BSD_Tech | ok then its getting a reorder tone |
| 20:33.52 | Strom_C | busy means "the party on the other end is on the phone" while reorder means "something is terribly wrong" |
| 20:33.55 | russellb | see above ... that's not an extension |
| 20:36.38 | russellb | in the same way that the setting for what to dial to do a transfer, is also not an extension |
| 20:48.54 | BSD_Tech | ok try to put this in better terms |
| 20:49.06 | BSD_Tech | 1 I just updated to 1.4.6 and same issue |
| 20:49.35 | BSD_Tech | I changed all the #XX number exren I commented themm out |
| 20:49.49 | BSD_Tech | so there is no exten wiht # at the beginning |
| 20:50.30 | BSD_Tech | but when you hit the # key and dial its juping to my disa setup |
| 20:50.39 | BSD_Tech | and asking me fir username and exten |
| 20:50.51 | BSD_Tech | extension and password to be correct |
| 20:51.09 | Strom_C | BSD_Tech: but /when/ are you dialing # |
| 20:51.12 | Strom_C | at the dial tone? |
| 20:51.15 | Strom_C | or at an IVR menu? |
| 20:51.25 | BSD_Tech | so figure this out if no exten has exten =#, why is it jumping to disa |
| 20:51.55 | BSD_Tech | at dial tone |
| 20:52.00 | Strom_C | sigh |
| 20:52.07 | BSD_Tech | and there is no ivr |
| 20:52.15 | Strom_C | despite the fact that you should never have any reason to dial # at the dial tone, i'll debug it |
| 20:52.25 | Strom_C | pastebin your extensions.conf as it is right now |
| 20:52.28 | BSD_Tech | and 3 alone does not mean end of dial |
| 20:52.37 | Strom_C | BSD_Tech: uh, it should |
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| 20:52.51 | Strom_C | s/3/#/ |
| 20:52.54 | BSD_Tech | 3/# |
| 20:53.07 | BSD_Tech | not on poly coms |
| 20:53.14 | Strom_C | BSD_Tech: yes on polycoms |
| 20:53.19 | Strom_C | now pastebin the dialplan please |
| 20:53.22 | BSD_Tech | with thier default dial plan |
| 20:53.28 | BSD_Tech | brb |
| 20:53.57 | Strom_C | this is why I keep saying you should understand telephony /before/ you touch asterisk, but no one ever listens to me of course |
| 20:57.26 | BSD_Tech | I have been using asteriusk for over 5 1/2 yeasr and never had this issue |
| 20:57.39 | BSD_Tech | I have writen many dial plans |
| 20:57.53 | BSD_Tech | and never had this issue with the # key before |
| 20:58.16 | BSD_Tech | pastebin.ca seems to not be responding |
| 20:58.26 | Strom_C | well then use one of the other pastebins |
| 20:58.42 | Strom_C | and just because you know asterisk doesn't mean you have a firm grasp of numbering plan theory :) |
| 21:00.20 | BSD_Tech | I am they are all being major slow |
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| 21:01.12 | BSD_Tech | I pasted on pastebin.com and its taking forever siorry |
| 21:01.39 | Strom_C | pastebin.com is also screwed |
| 21:01.42 | Strom_C | what about.... |
| 21:01.45 | WindBack | I have just test IDEFISK |
| 21:01.47 | WindBack | wowww |
| 21:01.51 | Strom_C | http://pastie.caboo.se/ |
| 21:01.56 | WindBack | good softphone |
| 21:01.58 | WindBack | !!! |
| 21:02.44 | BSD_Tech | http://pastebin.com/940122 |
| 21:03.03 | Strom_C | BSD_Tech: what context do your phones live in? |
| 21:03.24 | BSD_Tech | default right now |
| 21:03.27 | Strom_C | ok |
| 21:03.34 | Strom_C | this is taking forever to load |
| 21:03.35 | BSD_Tech | its at the bottom |
| 21:03.37 | [TK]D-Fender | Strom_C, [couldnt-possibly-include-more-crap] ;) |
| 21:03.44 | WindBack | IDEFisk the best softphone |
| 21:03.48 | BSD_Tech | its all documenting |
| 21:03.54 | Strom_C | WindBack: yes, you said that already |
| 21:04.02 | [TK]D-Fender | WindBack, No it isn't, but its probably the best FREE one. |
| 21:04.19 | WindBack | [TK]D-Fender, yesss |
| 21:04.23 | WindBack | free |
| 21:05.00 | BSD_Tech | http://pastie.caboo.se/75227 |
| 21:05.04 | BSD_Tech | that went fast |
| 21:05.15 | WindBack | [TK]D-Fender, I saw that idefisk use a stun server |
| 21:06.10 | Strom_C | BSD_Tech: there isn't even a [default] context in this dialplan |
| 21:06.15 | WindBack | [TK]D-Fender, but before you tellme that I don't need it |
| 21:06.16 | BSD_Tech | the whole did not paste |
| 21:07.12 | Strom_C | BSD_Tech: well then upload as a text file to some site you host and link to that |
| 21:07.46 | BSD_Tech | ok |
| 21:07.46 | WindBack | Somebody could use IDEFisk in linux?? Because I prove it, but it didn't found in my debian |
| 21:07.47 | BSD_Tech | brb |
| 21:08.35 | WindBack | I did hear nothing |
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| 21:09.16 | WindBack | Strom_C, |
| 21:09.23 | Strom_C | hi |
| 21:09.48 | WindBack | Strom_C, colud you use idefisk in linux?? |
| 21:10.39 | Strom_C | WindBack: well, gee, let me look on the site |
| 21:10.41 | Strom_C | http://www.asteriskguru.com/idefisk/free/ |
| 21:10.49 | Strom_C | don't pay attention to that "LINUX" button |
| 21:12.00 | WindBack | Strom_C, I installed it in my debian, but it didn't found |
| 21:12.12 | Strom_C | in English, please |
| 21:13.01 | BSD_Tech | Strom__, https://goldenfeather.homeip.net/static/extensions.conf |
| 21:13.04 | WindBack | Strom_C, ok, you are not a good person whit me |
| 21:13.15 | WindBack | Strom_C, thank you |
| 21:14.52 | Strom_C | BSD_Tech: now pastebin CLI output of what happens when you press # on your phone |
| 21:16.58 | BSD_Tech | http://pastie.caboo.se/75231 |
| 21:17.09 | BSD_Tech | its now jumping to app-wish |
| 21:18.05 | Strom_C | BSD_Tech: well here's what's happening |
| 21:18.28 | Strom_C | when you press # on the polycom phone, the phone sends the call to asterisk, assuming you're indicating the completion of a dialing sequence |
| 21:18.43 | Strom_C | asterisk receives a call with no called party number |
| 21:19.07 | Strom_C | so, having worked with asterisk for years and years now, you should know that under those conditions, asterisk will look for extension "s" |
| 21:19.40 | Strom_C | and some of the app contexts you've included do have "s" extensions |
| 21:20.16 | BSD_Tech | I see a double sided blade in the |
| 21:20.37 | BSD_Tech | becaus eit should look for a exten = # and if no exten the return busy |
| 21:20.42 | Strom_C | no |
| 21:20.46 | Strom_C | the phone doesn't send the # |
| 21:20.50 | BSD_Tech | its use to |
| 21:20.57 | Strom_C | it shouldn't, by default |
| 21:21.00 | BSD_Tech | 1.4.3 did and iin 1.2.XX it does |
| 21:21.23 | Strom_C | IF the phone sends "#" then asterisk will match on # and not s |
| 21:21.37 | Strom_C | but if the phone sends "" then asterisk will match on s |
| 21:21.55 | BSD_Tech | this ook so now to ceck my phone dial plan then |
| 21:22.00 | Strom_C | NO |
| 21:22.04 | Strom_C | check your asterisk dialplan |
| 21:22.16 | Strom_C | you should never assume the phone will behave a certain way and build your dialplan around that |
| 21:22.23 | BSD_Tech | well polycome may have screwed thier ne firmware also |
| 21:22.33 | Strom_C | you should build your dialplan around established standards and then get your phones to conform to that |
| 21:23.08 | Voicemeup | wahts priority -1 |
| 21:23.09 | Voicemeup | in ARA |
| 21:23.23 | Strom_C | the simple solution is to (a) never use # as an extension for anything, and (b) never include a context which contains an "s" context |
| 21:23.40 | Voicemeup | seems it s looking for that upon the rturn of a dial.. its equiv in ara of +101 ? |
| 21:26.54 | EmleyMoor | Never write a dialplan routine you can't be sure of without testing it |
| 21:27.20 | EmleyMoor | (in other words, either test everything or keep it so simple it doesn't need testing) |
| 21:27.36 | Strom_C | I even test the simple stuff |
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| 21:28.07 | EmleyMoor | Strom_C: Some of my dialplan looks complicated, but bears in mind that one of the phones on my system is rotary |
| 21:28.17 | Strom_C | EmleyMoor: that shouldn't make a difference |
| 21:28.24 | Strom_C | digits are digits to asterisk |
| 21:28.45 | EmleyMoor | Well, you can't use * on rotary phones - but other than that, yes, I agree |
| 21:29.15 | Strom_C | EmleyMoor: yes you can...pulse the hookswitch eleven times :) |
| 21:29.23 | Strom_C | and for #, pulse it twelve times :) |
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| 21:29.30 | crimethinker | Anyone have any hints where to sell an antique phone at a fair price? |
| 21:29.38 | EmleyMoor | I might try that just to see |
| 21:29.39 | Strom_C | crimethinker: define "antique" |
| 21:29.44 | Strom_C | i collect old phones :) |
| 21:29.48 | EmleyMoor | crimethinker: What country is it from? |
| 21:30.27 | Voicemeup | hey i just realized my prob.. once you go to mysql ARA architecture from withitn static dialplan you cant go back.. its a one way ticket |
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| 21:33.13 | Strom_C | crimethinker: best idea is to just take some photos and show me :) |
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| 21:33.51 | EmleyMoor | In fact, what I really want is a mid-1970s Hull phone |
| 21:35.01 | currach | I have a late 1970s rotary dial - not sure if it is a "Hull" phone. It is kind of cream plastic. |
| 21:35.15 | Voicemeup | http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/14/the-500-gsm-rotary-phone/ |
| 21:35.22 | Strom_C | Voicemeup: old old news |
| 21:35.29 | Voicemeup | yep |
| 21:35.36 | Voicemeup | just racting an an old inquiry |
| 21:35.39 | Voicemeup | reacting |
| 21:35.41 | EmleyMoor | currach: If cream, it's probably GPO |
| 21:35.56 | rudholm | hey Strom_C can I use the fourth column digits for extensions? |
| 21:36.06 | Strom_C | rudholm: you know, i've never tested |
| 21:36.14 | rudholm | and are those mapped to pulses? 13, 14, 15, 16 pulses? :) |
| 21:36.17 | Strom_C | i don't have an autovon phone |
| 21:36.25 | rudholm | I do, actually... |
| 21:36.27 | currach | That would be probably be right, issued by the Post And Telegraphs in Ireland. |
| 21:36.31 | EmleyMoor | rudholm: I believe you can - if you have a phone that supports. As for pulses, I pass |
| 21:36.36 | rudholm | I should plug it in to one of those Zap channels I just configured |
| 21:36.40 | Strom_C | rudholm: yes! |
| 21:36.41 | Strom_C | do it |
| 21:36.42 | EmleyMoor | currach: Ah, an Irish phone |
| 21:36.45 | Strom_C | PEER PRESSURE |
| 21:36.51 | Strom_C | you KNOW you want to plug it in |
| 21:36.55 | rudholm | hahaha |
| 21:37.02 | rudholm | coin line! |
| 21:37.06 | Strom_C | EVERYONE'S using the fourth column now!! |
| 21:37.11 | [TK]D-Fender | Best part about my God Complex..... no peer pressure ;) |
| 21:37.27 | ruied | what is the chan_misdn for? |
| 21:37.35 | rudholm | all phreaks have 1PC Coin Service Lines |
| 21:37.45 | Strom_C | ruied: ISDN |
| 21:37.47 | rudholm | I don't even know *why* they let you in to the 2600 meet-ups :) |
| 21:37.53 | JT | ruied: it's to give you the shits |
| 21:37.59 | JT | also for bri |
| 21:38.00 | Strom_C | rudholm: something about Kinko's |
| 21:38.07 | rudholm | blah blah blah |
| 21:38.18 | Strom_C | hehe |
| 21:38.22 | rudholm | it's all about the 1PC now |
| 21:38.31 | rudholm | and NI1 BRI on Asterisk. |
| 21:38.47 | Strom_C | <girl fight> DENTING YOUR LUNCHBOX!! I SWEAR I WILL BITE THIS BENDY DOLL'S HEAD RIGHT OFF!! </girl fight> |
| 21:39.13 | JT | i'm curious as to whether the sangoma A500 will support NI1 BRI |
| 21:39.25 | JT | drivers are yet to be released |
| 21:39.34 | J4k3 | real men only use test sets |
| 21:39.37 | J4k3 | to make calls |
| 21:39.40 | rudholm | I seem to recall something about accepting ABCD somewhere in asterisk-land. |
| 21:39.48 | Qwell | rudholm: it should work fine |
| 21:39.52 | Juggie | ABCD are dtmf's |
| 21:39.57 | J4k3 | who needs a cellphone when theres below ground phone wiring with peds every 150 meters? :D |
| 21:40.02 | ruied | JT, to talk to asterisk right? I've already compiled successfully mISDN and mISDNuser... but I'can't compile chan_mISDN, it's reporting errors.... |
| 21:40.13 | currach | Night everybody |
| 21:40.18 | JT | ruied: what card are you using? |
| 21:40.18 | Strom_C | J4k3: Harris/Dracon TS44A FTW |
| 21:40.31 | rudholm | Strom_C: I should tell people my phone number is "A" |
| 21:40.35 | J4k3 | Strom_C: its only cool if you stole it from a telco guy, though :D |
| 21:40.36 | Strom_C | hahahahahahaha |
| 21:40.41 | Strom_C | J4k3: mine says "SBC" |
| 21:40.47 | J4k3 | Strom_C: sweet! |
| 21:40.54 | ruied | JT, w6692pci |
| 21:40.58 | ruied | winbond |
| 21:41.00 | JT | ok no idea what that is |
| 21:41.04 | JT | err ok |
| 21:41.08 | JT | you sure it's a bri card? |
| 21:41.08 | rudholm | Mine says Pacific Telephone & Telegraph Co. |
| 21:41.09 | Strom_C | goes with my SBC hard hat and baseball cap |
| 21:41.16 | ruied | JT yes |
| 21:41.41 | J4k3 | Strom_C: do you have a white chevy truck with a grey konig bed with some random "AT&T" stickers? :D |
| 21:41.57 | rudholm | he has a Honda with random Bell System stickers. |
| 21:42.29 | Strom_C | yes |
| 21:42.32 | J4k3 | I pissed off some verizon tower installers because I had a nicer harness than they did |
| 21:42.35 | J4k3 | hehe |
| 21:42.38 | ruied | JT: compiling chan_misdn ends up with: make: ** [chan_misdn.o] Error 1 |
| 21:42.52 | JT | ruied: ok, i'm not really into supporting misdn, btw. |
| 21:43.06 | Strom_C | http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=616288871&size=o&context=set-72157600471576143 |
| 21:43.13 | Strom_C | ^^^^ |
| 21:43.26 | ruied | JT ok |
| 21:43.47 | Strom_C | J4k3: double bonus points if you can tell me what the license plate refers to |
| 21:44.39 | ruied | chan_misdn is to make asterisk "talking" with misdn driver right? |
| 21:45.14 | J4k3 | hahaha you DO have a honda with a bell system sticker! |
| 21:45.27 | Strom_C | oh, you fail |
| 21:45.34 | Strom_C | (311) 555-2368 |
| 21:45.35 | J4k3 | wasn't ever much of a phreak tho. kinda young, in too big of a town (so we had a real switch) |
| 21:45.42 | Strom_C | the standard bell system fake number |
| 21:45.47 | J4k3 | hah |
| 21:46.27 | J4k3 | http://www.intrastar.net/~jsuter/6-13-07/0613071534.jpg |
| 21:46.31 | J4k3 | (awful cellphone camera) |
| 21:46.53 | Strom_C | heh, nice |
| 21:46.55 | Strom_C | where is that? |
| 21:46.59 | Juggie | you know what sucks, some loser company called grandcentral that is probally not based on asterisk is going to get bought out for that service by google, when any one of us could have created that same service on asterisk :( |
| 21:47.00 | J4k3 | east texas |
| 21:47.16 | Strom_C | ah cool |
| 21:47.25 | ruied | I'm having problems compiling chan_misdn, the last line compilation error is: "make: ** [chan_misdn.o] Error 1" |
| 21:47.57 | J4k3 | google spoogle. |
| 21:50.06 | JT | ruied: that is a completely useless error, you're wasting your time |
| 21:51.55 | ruied | JT: how or what should I look for? |
| 21:52.08 | JT | the real compilation error |
| 21:54.32 | ruied | ok, here it is :" error: to few arguments to function 'ast_moh_start'" |
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| 22:04.24 | ruied | can anyone give me a help with chan_misdn compilation? |
| 22:11.41 | BSD_Tech | come to find out it is the sip.cfg for my polycoms |
| 22:12.12 | BSD_Tech | one of the other techs was editing it and changed things and removed the timeouts and the dial strings |
| 22:12.44 | BSD_Tech | so the phone was not sending the right dial stirngs |
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| 22:16.23 | Strom_C | BSD_Tech: my argument still stands |
| 22:16.27 | Strom_C | your dialplan is bonkers |
| 22:16.29 | Strom_C | fix it |
| 22:24.12 | aptura | Strom. MY CID indicator is working. no idea why. |
| 22:24.27 | aptura | I mean vm indicator |
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| 23:06.21 | iPod-nano | OK, I need one very simple, straight-forward answer. |
| 23:06.53 | JT | All we need is one very simple, straightforward question. |
| 23:06.56 | russellb | are you on IRC from an ipod? that's neat |
| 23:07.01 | iPod-nano | Can I use Asterisk to bridge between my piece of junk hardware ATA and another VoIP service? |
| 23:07.10 | russellb | yes |
| 23:07.13 | JT | yes, as long as the ata isn't locked |
| 23:07.20 | iPod-nano | JT, it's not. |
| 23:07.27 | iPod-nano | It just sucks. |
| 23:07.38 | iPod-nano | It doesn't support STUN. |
| 23:07.46 | JT | what model is it? |
| 23:07.47 | JT | meh |
| 23:07.54 | JT | stun, you rarely need to use |
| 23:07.55 | iPod-nano | And I don't have the ability to connect it directly to the internet. |
| 23:08.23 | iPod-nano | It's a D-Link DVG-1120S (actually a firmware-flashed 1120M). |
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| 23:09.10 | iPod-nano | I use Gizmo Project, and all this thing lets me do is connect to conference rooms, it seems. |
| 23:09.25 | iPod-nano | I call my Gizmo number, nothing happens. |
| 23:09.43 | iPod-nano | I try to call another Gizmo user, and it doesn't work properly. |
| 23:09.58 | iPod-nano | Oh, I can make outgoing to landlines, too. |
| 23:10.41 | JT | d-links are pretty sucky i guess |
| 23:10.44 | iPod-nano | And I know nothing about Asterisk, nor have I used it before. |
| 23:10.54 | JT | ~thebook |
| 23:10.55 | jbot | it has been said that thebook is a book called Asterisk: The Future of Telephony which is found at http://www.asteriskdocs.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=11 |
| 23:10.55 | iPod-nano | So I had to ask before I went ahead and tried it. |
| 23:10.58 | JT | the book has a lot of info |
| 23:11.31 | iPod-nano | It would be nice if I could make this thing ring when I get calls. |
| 23:12.11 | iPod-nano | So if Asterisk can let me do that, then I'll dedicate one of my computers to it. |
| 23:14.01 | iPod-nano | I've been looking at these pre-built Linux distributions made for VoIP. |
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| 23:20.35 | JT | iPod-nano: no point to most of them |
| 23:20.46 | knarfly | can anyone clue me in on the GUI for 1.4.4? I run FreeBSD not Linux... |
| 23:20.59 | knarfly | Where do I find it, how to install it? |
| 23:21.21 | JT | asterisk-gui |
| 23:21.30 | JT | you can use it, but there won't be much support for it |
| 23:21.36 | rob0 | Oh, I suppose the dream of these distros is that you can run a PBX without knowing anything about Linux/Unix administration. |
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| 23:22.31 | JT | rob0: but that's silly, unskilled people should not be building PBXes |
| 23:22.46 | rob0 | Yeah, I agree. |
| 23:23.03 | iPod-nano | I'm not unskilled, but I am new to Asterisk. |
| 23:23.10 | iPod-nano | I know Linux, though. |
| 23:23.23 | JT | i didn't say you were :) |
| 23:23.31 | rob0 | Then there's definitely no point in getting such a distro. |
| 23:23.43 | iPod-nano | All I want is to be able to use this junk. |
| 23:23.51 | rob0 | Just build your * and start playing. |
| 23:23.55 | JT | refering more to people who think a manager should be able to build a pbx, which is crazy ;) |
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| 23:25.08 | iPod-nano | JT, rob0, I do like the idea that with such a distro, I can just run it live and save my settings on a flash drive. That would allow me to switch computers if need be. |
| 23:25.31 | JT | astlinux might do that, not sure |
| 23:26.27 | iPod-nano | Plus these are minimal distributions, which are easier to play with under VMware. |
| 23:26.55 | JT | vmware isn't a very good place to run asterisk |
| 23:27.21 | iPod-nano | Well, I'm lazy. :-P |
| 23:27.30 | iPod-nano | And my real computer is across the room. |
| 23:27.46 | JT | ssh was invented for a reason... |
| 23:28.00 | rob0 | for lazy people ;) |
| 23:28.11 | iPod-nano | Not if the computer isn't turned on! |
| 23:28.22 | JT | no remote power board/lom? |
| 23:28.32 | iPod-nano | Not to mention that I'd have to reinstall Linux on it. I was foolish to try and run FreeBSD. |
| 23:28.33 | rob0 | Real computers are ALWAYS on! :) |
| 23:31.27 | iPod-nano | I wish a third party could've wrotten better firmware for the stupid thing. |
| 23:31.31 | iPod-nano | 8written |
| 23:31.36 | iPod-nano | *written |
| 23:32.22 | BSD_Tech | ? |
| 23:32.35 | iPod-nano | My D-Link. |
| 23:37.35 | iPod-nano | How do you get a kernel panic from a LiveCD? |
| 23:37.58 | rob0 | cool! |
| 23:38.20 | rob0 | Perhaps they needed a bit more debugging before release. |
| 23:38.59 | iPod-nano | Oh... I don't want to have to get up! |
| 23:39.13 | iPod-nano | And walk the five foot to my other computer. |
| 23:39.17 | iPod-nano | *feet |
| 23:39.41 | rudholm | iPod-nano: you get a kernel panic when something calls panic() |
| 23:39.43 | rudholm | duh |
| 23:39.52 | rudholm | :-p |
| 23:46.25 | obnauticus | ROFL |
| 23:46.32 | obnauticus | Sprint will change my CID to Emergency <911> |
| 23:46.33 | obnauticus | wow |
| 23:46.44 | rudholm | why would they do that? |
| 23:47.03 | obnauticus | Dunno |
| 23:47.05 | obnauticus | it's legal though |
| 23:47.05 | obnauticus | :) |
| 23:47.06 | obnauticus | LoL. |
| 23:47.21 | rudholm | this is via a PRI or something? |
| 23:47.23 | obnauticus | It ensures pickup of the phone on the receiving end |
| 23:47.28 | obnauticus | No, coustomer service |
| 23:47.32 | obnauticus | I'm speaking to a Guy. |
| 23:47.36 | obnauticus | that's doing it |
| 23:47.36 | obnauticus | rofl. |
| 23:47.48 | rudholm | what kind of phone service? |
| 23:48.05 | obnauticus | Nothing special |
| 23:48.07 | obnauticus | family plan |
| 23:48.09 | obnauticus | I'm 15 |
| 23:48.10 | obnauticus | lol. |
| 23:48.12 | rudholm | wireless? |
| 23:48.14 | rudholm | wired? |
| 23:48.17 | obnauticus | Ya |
| 23:48.19 | obnauticus | wireless |
| 23:48.23 | obnauticus | It's a cell |
| 23:48.23 | Qwell | obnauticus: no, I'm pretty sure that's not legal |
| 23:48.29 | obnauticus | Qwell yes it is |
| 23:48.35 | obnauticus | it is illegal to impersonate |
| 23:48.36 | russellb | pretty sure it isn't |
| 23:48.39 | obnauticus | Caller ID spoofing IS illega |
| 23:48.40 | obnauticus | l |
| 23:48.52 | Qwell | misrepresenting yourself as some sort of official? |
| 23:48.58 | obnauticus | no |
| 23:49.04 | obnauticus | i wouldn't do that |
| 23:49.06 | obnauticus | jsut wanna change my CID |
| 23:49.19 | rudholm | I don't think a court would see the distinction. |
| 23:49.32 | russellb | to something that misrepresents yourself as emergency personel? |
| 23:49.35 | russellb | yeah, that won't go well. |
| 23:49.42 | obnauticus | http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/29/congress-looking-to-make-caller-id-spoofing-illegal/ |
| 23:49.48 | obnauticus | It is TO BE made illegal |
| 23:49.52 | Qwell | callerid spoofing is something COMPLETELY different |
| 23:49.54 | obnauticus | I just wanna try it before then |
| 23:49.58 | obnauticus | ... |
| 23:50.01 | obnauticus | Then what ma I doing? |
| 23:50.10 | rudholm | other laws apply |
| 23:50.10 | obnauticus | I dunno |
| 23:50.11 | Qwell | By setting your CID as 911? |
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| 23:50.15 | obnauticus | just wanna mess with friends |
| 23:50.15 | obnauticus | lol. |
| 23:50.31 | Qwell | yeah, I've got $20 that says it's not legal to do that. |
| 23:50.40 | obnauticus | not yet |
| 23:51.23 | russellb | Qwell: i'll raise your $20 to $50 |
| 23:51.26 | rudholm | obnauticus: I believe that you're intention is just to mess with friends, and personally, yeah, it's funny, but make no mistake, just because spoofing CID isn't illegal per se does not mean that you're in the clear. other laws apply. |
| 23:52.10 | rudholm | there are laws against impersonating police and emergency service personnel. those laws would most definitely apply. |
| 23:52.44 | rudholm | doesn't matter if you use a fake badge, fake uniform, verbal statements, CID, or anything else to do it. it's illegal. |
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| 23:58.28 | *** topic/#asterisk is Asterisk: The Open Source Telephony Application Platform -=- Asterisk 1.2.20, 1.4.6 (June 29, 2007) -=- Join #asterisknow or #asterisk-gui for AsteriskNOW and Asterisk-GUI info -=- Join #asterisk-commits to monitor svn changes -=- Join #freepbx for freepbx/#trixbox for trixbox support. |
