IRC log for #asterisk on 20070520

00:02.16e-Regg4eMath` do you have any experience with linksys pap2?
00:07.28Math`ya
00:07.38e-Regg4ei have a basic question
00:07.47apturavoipjet does not return emails
00:07.57e-Regg4eaptura: after 5 days maybe
00:08.02apturafor me never
00:08.02aptura:)
00:08.13e-Regg4eMath`: i have configured the pap2
00:08.17e-Regg4ebut i want to do this:
00:08.30e-Regg4ei want to connect both lines to an analog pbx
00:08.49e-Regg4eso, if i dial the extension in the analog pbx
00:08.55e-Regg4eof the pap2 lines
00:09.10e-Regg4ei want to get a dial tone and i want to make the pap2 able to dial a voip extension
00:09.12e-Regg4eis that possible?
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00:10.21Math`sure...
00:10.41Math`oh
00:10.47Math`wait no you cant
00:10.58Math`you need a device with an FXO port
00:11.04e-Regg4edamn!
00:11.13Math`the SPA-3000 has 1 FXO and 1 FXS
00:11.16e-Regg4e:'(
00:11.22Math`or else your PAP2 wont like the voltage :)
00:11.51e-Regg4edamn it :(
00:13.54RypPnafternoon all, I've successfully completed my testing using a x100p-clone and would like to move to production. can someone recommend a replacement with better audio quality for one fxo?
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00:14.27tinrsh'nite
00:15.21tinrshhi there, is there any way to change the permissions that asterisk uses when creating voicemail files or monitor files ?
00:16.28tinrshanybody awake ?
00:16.50angryuserhttp://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=9400#bugnotes have anyone has problem like this? (misdn b10P port go down)
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00:23.19JunK-Ytinrsh: which permissions would u like to set?
00:24.07tinrshthose that asterisk uses when recording to voicemail ( the audio files )
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00:24.28tinrshor the monitor files
00:24.35JunK-Yi mean, which permissions, not which files.
00:24.56tinrshI sorry, I don't understand the question
00:24.58Hymietinrsh: you can chmod g+s the directories, and then files created in those directories will inherit the group id of the parent directory
00:25.38Hymietinrsh: this is a long standing issue, I'm surprised there isn't an option in voicemail.conf yet
00:26.23tinrshHymie: yes, this is an option, but I would've preffered a conf file option
00:26.25tinrsh:(
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00:32.19mvandIs anyone using chan_mgcp with version 1.4.4?
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00:46.34CVirusI'm compiling zaptel ... In the zconfig.h .. what shall I set #define DEFAULT_TONE_ZONE to ? I live in Egypt
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00:50.03RageMaxis there a hardened low-latency linux distro out there being developed specifically for asterisk?
00:50.03carrarzaptel/zonedata.c
00:50.52carrarprobably 19?  Israel?
00:51.05CVirusI don't think so
00:51.15carrarwell look in there
00:51.18carrarpick one
00:51.52carrarhttp://www.itu.int/ITU-T/inr/forms/files/tones-0203.pdf
00:52.27carrarEgypt is in that doc
00:52.30carraryou can just create one
00:52.50carraror find one thats like it
00:54.33Maxxedhey any of you guys have any experince working with an answering service?
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00:55.06CViruscarrar: Thanks
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00:59.00mvandIs anyone using chan_mgcp with asterisk 1.4.4?  I'm having a problem with an ATA that works with version 1.2
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01:00.24CVirusDo I have to recompile asterisk and libpri after recompiling zaptel ?
01:00.36carrarcan't hurt
01:00.36Caplainwhere do i get a zaptel?
01:01.17carrarYou mean a Zap type interface card?
01:01.48Caplainsomething that will let me use my land line as a channel
01:01.51carrarhttp://www.digium.com/en/products/
01:02.04carrarhttp://www.digium.com/en/products/hardware/analogcards.php
01:02.13carrarTDM400P
01:02.22carrarwith 1 FXO card should work
01:03.26Caplain<PROTECTED>
01:03.33carrarno
01:03.38carrarjust a your telephone line
01:03.48carrarFXS modules are for the phone to plug into
01:04.00carrarFXO modules are for the telephone line to plug into from your provider
01:04.36carrarYou would need 1 of each if you want to use a analog phone and analog phone service
01:04.58carrarusing 2 out of the 4 slots on the TDM400P
01:05.14Caplainthose are expensive
01:05.28carrarand they work great
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01:07.00mvandCaplain: If you're just looking for something cheap to use for exploring asterisk, you might want to try an X100P
01:07.13carrarthat will replace a FXO
01:07.17apturacarrar a short few years ago PBX were considerably more pricy.
01:07.21carrarbut not for a FXS port
01:07.34Caplainokay
01:07.40[TK]D-FenderCaplain, Linksys SPA-3102 is a decent choice for a single line & phone, considerably cheaper
01:08.43[TK]D-Fender+/- 75$ USD
01:09.19mvandIs the SPA-3102 and FXO and an FXS?  Like the -3000 was?
01:10.10[TK]D-Fenderyes
01:10.35[TK]D-Fendermvand, Now includes a strong CPU, and can be a router as well.
01:10.40Caplainim ordering the Linksys SPA-3102
01:10.53Caplainwtf everything is like a cheap commecrial
01:11.14mvandHow is the PSTN echo on the 3102?  I had problems with my -3000  (Mostly due to my (former) PSTN provider)
01:11.16[TK]D-Fenderstrong-ER
01:11.56[TK]D-Fendermvand, I'd guess a little better, but its hit or miss quite likely.  Have you checked out the voxilla forums for guides on tuning it?
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01:13.46mvandVoxilla is how I finally got acceptable results.  I was able to tune my X100 a little better, but was never able to get CallerID to work.  I even tuned the rxgain to 2 decimal places by calling the ,illiwatt line
01:15.11mvandanalog phones connected directly to pstn got callerID 80-90% of the time, X100 got it 20% of the time, SPA3K got it 25% of the time
01:16.02mvandI ended up firing windstream (formerly alltel) and porting my 15 year old phone number to vitelity: all digital
01:16.12killfill_hey guys.. asterisk is somehow adding a '0' before in all zap outgoing calls. i see in the logs i.e. Called g1/4201494  but its really calling 0420....
01:16.26killfill_where could this setup be?.. cannot find how to make it call normally..
01:17.02carrarmvand, I had to buy a X100P from Digiam years ago to get callerID to work on a modem card
01:17.34explidouskillfill_ sounds like a dialplan error...
01:17.34carrarHaven't used it since
01:17.43carrarPRI's are so much nicer
01:18.07killfill_hm..
01:18.20explidouscarrar: Yes and some civilised countries even have ISDN in the Home ;-)
01:18.29carrarheh
01:19.01Corydon76-homeISDN to the home?  Barbarians!  Invade them!
01:19.55explidousDidn't we do that yet?
01:20.41killfill_explidous: but when it says "Called xxxxx" the number is correct.. :S
01:21.23explidoussorry have to go dinner calling
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01:21.49explidouskillfill_ you might want to post your dialplan for people to look at....
01:22.12explidouspasswords removed ofcourse!
01:22.18killfill_hehe
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01:23.53mvandcarrar: I had my X100 working great in my previous residence, but had echo problems when i moved into my current home 3 years ago.  I managed to tune it to an acceptable level, but when I added callerID 4 months ago, was never able to get it to work *reliably* on any device.  The SPA-3K gave me similar quality to the X100
01:26.00mvandThe thing that's cool about the SPA3K (and I assume the 3102) is that you can address the FXO and FXS independantly, and if asterisk goes down, the phones dial out directly through the PSTN
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01:29.46killfill_explidous: this is my dialplan: http://www.sofsis.cl/extensions.conf
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01:31.12killfill_any tips are welcome.. :P
01:32.25killfill_somehow its prepending a 0.. al numbers get called with a 0 before... :S
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01:38.09tinrshbye all
01:38.11tinrshquit
01:38.31Corydon76-homekillfill_: set pridialplan=unknown in zapata.conf and restart
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01:40.31RypPnmvand: interesting comment on the x100p, I'd been led to believe it was only useful for testing, and I should be looking for something better for production.
01:43.10killfill_Corydon76-home: greate! thanks!
01:45.10killfill_dont know what it means.. but worked.. :P
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01:45.31mvandRypPn: I understand that you are really risking reliability when using more than one X100 per box.  If you're only using one, they seem to be quite reliable
01:46.29mvand(How many *production* PBXen need only one FXO?)
01:46.29RypPnmvand: I had more of a fight getting mine correctly configured for the UK, but I'm still not overly convinced by its audio quality
01:47.14mvandIsn't the UK impedance different than the US?
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01:49.32RypPnyeah, I changed it to CTR21
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01:52.49mvandWhere do you do that?  I was only able to find rxgain and txgain settings
01:53.07RypPnI fed  opermode into modprobe.conf
01:53.11RypPnu want a paste?
01:54.07mvandNo, thanks.  I got rid of the PSTN line last month.
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01:57.09FeroxisIf I set a variable with Set() in an extension, will it still be available in h extension, or are they cleared before entering the h extension?
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02:00.22mvandIs anyone using MGCP with asterisk 1.4.4?  I'm having a problem migrating from 1.2.15
02:01.19RypPnmvand: I'm setting up a test at home, but would like to put it in the office where they are using 4 isdn channels, my thoughts are why do they need isdn at the cost? But analog doesnt sound an option from my testing so far
02:03.23mvandHow many desk sets?
02:03.44RypPnmvand: (Just answering the production comment)
02:03.51RypPnumm, 7 or 8
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02:33.10KoshatulI've been searcing google and the mailing list for a fix for this problem, but I keep getting either posts with "go post this in dev/users" (depending on where it was posted)
02:33.29KoshatulWhen I receive an inocming call on the Zaptel lines on my TDM400P with two FXS and two FXO
02:33.32KoshatulI get this
02:33.34Koshatul[May 20 12:37:43] WARNING[18486]: chan_zap.c:6879 ss_thread: CallerID returned with error on channel 'Zap/4-1'
02:33.47Koshatuland the line basically "hangs up" exiting non-zero
02:33.54Koshatulhas anyone had this before ?
02:34.19Koshatul(i'm in australia, i've tried starting with a fresh zapata.conf, ztcfg -vv shows no errors, i've powered down and up a few times.
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02:37.35fastfeetCould someone point me in the proper direction to learn how to have Asterisk Display CID information when I receive a call from the PSTN line through my Linksys SPA-3102.
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02:56.08rkeelsI should untar mpd into /lib/bin on ipod right?
02:56.22rkeelsoops sorry
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03:23.38killfill_how do i tell "if 1<${EXTEN}<60" ? ...
03:28.19bkw_what?
03:28.27bkw_can you clarify that?
03:31.05killfill_i wish to check if the EXTEN number is bewteen 1 and 60, becouse if so, i wish to dial SIP/${EXTEN}
03:31.24killfill_its for incomming zap calls
03:33.15bkw_01 tur 60 or 1 thru 60?
03:33.50killfill_01 thru 60 really..
03:33.51bkw_best way is to do _Z,1, for 1 thru 9.. then _[1-6]X for 10 thru 60
03:33.54bkw_ok
03:33.59bkw_then _XX,
03:35.13killfill_ah
03:36.09killfill_bkw_: is there a way to know if a user uses SIP or IAX phones?.. i got muxed up users..  wish to redirect this calls to their sip/iax phones..
03:37.00bkw_go read the docs .. not 100% sure
03:37.31killfill_any docs recomendation?..
03:37.32killfill_:)
03:37.43bkw_what version?
03:37.45bkw_1.4 or 1.2?
03:37.47killfill_1.4
03:37.58bkw_don't they have chan_user?
03:37.58mvandwhat difference if they're calling in with sip or iax
03:37.59killfill_i think im beginning to unserstand thing..
03:38.50killfill_mvand: oh no.. i mean.. i wish to redirect ZAP calls to their extensions. but dont know if i shall call them by SIP or IAX... :)
03:40.35bkw_use SIP or IAX
03:40.35bkw_dont' mix
03:40.35killfill_already have mixes up..  SIP hw phones.. and IAX "remote" notebooks.. (out the nat)
03:40.35mvanddial(Local/901)
03:40.36killfill_err local?..
03:40.36bkw_stay away from Local
03:40.36killfill_local is like "sip or iax"?..
03:40.43bkw_local is evil
03:41.11coppicelocal isn't evil. people who use local are evil
03:41.18bkw_haha
03:41.45mvandexten => 901,1,Dial(SIP/thatguy)
03:42.16mvandexten => 902,1,Dial(IAX/theotherguy)
03:42.24killfill_wow.. i think its working.. :)
03:42.35killfill_im just calling Local.. :)
03:43.01killfill_oh, well right.. i could call IAX with priority 1, and then SIP.. so if iax doesnt work, try sip.. :P
03:43.05mvandexten => s,1,Dial(Local/901&Local/902)
03:43.15bkw_killfill_, why on earth are you mixing IAX and SIP
03:43.22bkw_users can use one or the other
03:43.27bkw_you're making this harder on yourself
03:43.36killfill_heh
03:44.03killfill_well, some users use IAX becouse nat probls with sip, and some has hw phones that are sip..(i.e. secretaries)
03:44.36mvandI have to use both mgcp and sip because my DG-104s won't speak SIP, and my GXP-2000 won't speak mgcp.
03:44.37bkw_um if they have nat problems then you have done something WRONG
03:45.17bkw_nat is not a sip problem.. its an RTP problem brought on by dumb ass sip devices that don't do things the right way.. mixed with asterisk that does the NAT thing half assed
03:45.19coppiceI understand the GXP-2000's point of view :-)
03:45.24killfill_oh yah.. well, the net guys decided they dont want to route SIP inside..
03:45.43bkw_killfill_, then he should be fired
03:46.08coppiceMGCP is a product of the clueless
03:46.13killfill_thats true. and i think he has no much time left.. :P
03:46.47bkw_coppice, I can agree with you on that
03:46.47coppiceactually, most VoIP protocols are, but MGCP takes this to the extreme
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03:46.53bkw_see IAX suffers the same problem behind NAT that all voip protocols suffer from
03:47.02coppiceThe people who wrote the MGCP speak clearly had no clue where implementation complexity would lie
03:47.09mvandYeah, Steve I know.  But it's a really inexpensive way to get 4 cordless phones attached
03:47.27neuralwindhow do u run asterisk? i wanna try my x100p card
03:48.04killfill_ok.. i have another qeustion..  i have i.e.  exten = _123  and exten = _456  ..  both of thouse math the different numbers (123, and 456)..  i wish to execut on both of them Set(Language()=es).. how could i do this?
03:48.12killfill_math/match...
03:48.20bkw_killfill_, well you do it like so
03:48.28killfill_i mean.. withouth repeating it twice..
03:48.29coppicemvand: why is it cheap? and MGCP box is only different from a SIP box due to the firmware loaded into it. they are *always* the same hardware
03:48.48mvandeBay!
03:48.52bkw__XXX,1,Set(Language()=es) then 123,2,Something and 456,2,Somethingelse
03:49.03killfill_aah
03:49.21coppicemvand: and SIP firmware can't be downloaded from somewhere?
03:49.23bkw__XXX will match both... then the priority of two on each will pickup the rest
03:49.35killfill_got it. bkw_ thank.
03:49.36bkw_also don't prefix it with _
03:49.49bkw_unless you're doing matching with X,Z or N in the extension
03:49.57killfill_oh right.. they are just numbers.. yup
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03:51.17kiwonekagood eveing to all
03:51.25killfill_greate.
03:52.14kiwonekai need some quick help with my dial plan
03:52.41kiwonekai am trying to cal dubai and i just cant get my internation to work prperly
03:52.44kiwonekahelp
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03:54.25mvandI've not been able to find *any* firmware for a Clarent CPG 201
03:56.03coppiceyeah, the VoIP world is pretty sick. boxes you can't buy unless you are one of the chosen few. boxes riddled with bugs, where the only way to get updates is by being a service provider. There should be a special place in hell for this scum
03:56.14kiwonekathis is what i am trying to dial 0097150XXXXXXX
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03:57.51mvandIIRC, the DG-104 has only mgcp and h323 firmware, with SIP additionally being available on the DG-102
03:58.55coppicemvand: this will almost certainly be something that is only true in the minds of the marketing department
03:59.26mvandIf I can get the Clarent box to work with my new asterisk 1.4.4 install (it works with 1.2.15), I will try upgrading my DG-102 to SIP
04:01.04mvandOh, I agree with you.  I have a two port version of the box: the DG-102S.  If I recall correctly *that* box has available firmware for each of three protocols: sip, mgcp(yuck), and h323(YUCK)
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04:02.25coppiceSIP is at least as nasty as H.323, though MGCP is the clear champ for nastiness
04:02.36fall0utMGCP isn't nasy
04:02.41fall0utasterisk's MGCP is just nasty
04:03.15coppiceMGCP is the most brain dead of all VoIP protocols
04:03.27fall0utyes
04:03.36fall0utmoves all important functions into the GC or CA
04:03.38fall0utwhatever you wanna call it
04:03.48fall0utbut, that is good
04:04.05coppiceit doesn't. that's why it is brain dead. maximum complexity. minimum reward
04:04.25fall0utminimum reward?
04:04.46fall0utfar less interop shit to deal with
04:04.59fall0utCA can determine functionality easier
04:05.03fall0utso you're left with less interop
04:05.12coppiceit was intended to permit simpler gateways than other protocols. it actually requires the same complexity of gateway, and really messy interactions
04:05.38fall0utdeployments with NCS/MGCP are a lot easier than SIP
04:05.51mvandAnd my Clarent ATA is even worse than the D-Link.  It won't work with 1.4.4, but it did with 1.2.15.
04:06.01fall0utalthough
04:06.07fall0utI will admit roaming subscribers are better off with SIP
04:06.08fall0utthan MGCP
04:06.13coppicethat is mostly because there are far fewer implementations of MGCP, so less variability
04:06.30fall0utNCS/PacketCable1.0 is teh wins
04:06.40fall0utnewer packetcable specs are teh wins, too
04:06.44fall0utbut they are moving into IMS model
04:07.16fall0utMGCP business line functionality is pretty badass actually
04:07.24fall0utespecially when comparing proper implementation to a SIP phone
04:07.36fall0uteven SIP-B and newer SIP implementations
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04:43.43arafathhello Corydon
04:44.49arafathcan any one help me to configure 4E1 with one signal channel+libss7
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04:45.08MercestesIf I wanted to do escalationin a queue with "ringall" how would I do it?
04:45.40MercestesSay, I have 5 users, 2 on 0, 2 on 1, and 1 on 2.  How do I ring 1,2 first, then 1,2,3,4 and finally, 1,2,3,4,5 using priorities in a queue with ringall?
04:45.48explidousarafath: I mmight... whats the problem?
04:45.53Mercestesno, the phones won't necessariliy be "busy" they could be unmanned or simply ignoring their phone.
04:47.20explidousoops sorry, didnt see the ss7... Where do you get ss7 from?
04:47.30arafathpls see the link http://pastebin.ca/497999
04:47.46arafathfrom telco
04:48.52arafaththey gave me 4 E1 and signal type is ss7, but they gave only one signal channel
04:48.54explidouswhy do they give you ss7 not ISDN/PRI????
04:49.13arafaththey have only R2 and SS7
04:49.23explidousthat works fine with PRI but I am not sure it works that well with ss7....
04:49.28explidouswhat is the card?
04:49.30arafathand i m using Digium TE407
04:49.50coppicearafath: SS7 normally works with a common signalling channel, although a redundant pair is preferred
04:50.22arafathat the given link i added my zaptel.conf and zapata.conf file
04:51.03arafathhttp://pastebin.ca/497999
04:51.15explidousyes, but ss7 mis not the most used protocol for asterisk users ;-)
04:51.40arafathyap i know
04:52.51arafaththe problem is that my 1st E1 works fine, but from 2nd to 4th E1 i only get ring but no voice from both side
04:52.57coppiceyou can always use R2
04:53.17arafathbut digium dont support R2
04:53.36coppicemost * users in south ameria use R2
04:54.25explidousor use Sangoms driver and Cards...
04:54.44coppicewhat difference does using sangoma make?
04:55.14neuralwindi have x100p , already installed asterisk and zaptel .I started asterisk, how do i place a call now?
04:55.32explidousyou can use theri ss7 lib
04:55.32arafathno diiference
04:56.03coppicesangoma does not have an SS7 lib. they use ss7box
04:56.12arafathyes i m using ss7lib
04:57.42explidoussilly question why did you give each trunk its own group?
04:59.32arafathi configurd 1st E1 1-31 port and 2nd as 33-63 and so on
04:59.54explidousyes, but why did you use differnt groups for them?
05:00.05coppiceyou want them to be one group, don't you?
05:01.03explidousI never tried common signalling over differnt groups, not sure if that works...
05:01.14Mercestesnobody likes my question.  :(
05:01.15neuralwindhow do u place a call in asterisk?
05:01.31Mercestesneuralwind, with a phone.
05:01.31explidousThat and your zone beeing US are the only things that jiump at me..
05:01.37Mercestesneuralwind, or with a dial command
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05:02.00explidousneuralwind: DIAL
05:02.31neuralwindim win CLI
05:02.34neuralwindwith
05:02.38neuralwindtheres no dial command
05:02.48neuralwindu mean i have to assing a dial plan first
05:02.50explidoushttp://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+cmd+Dial
05:03.23arafathfor routing my call
05:03.25explidousneuralwind, from the console?
05:04.36explidousarafath, did you try putting them in one group, leaving out the span directives as well see if you can use all four that way... just to confirm that that is not the problem...
05:05.03arafathyes i tried that
05:05.18neuralwindexplidous yes from asterisk CLI i just want make a local phone call
05:05.22explidousarafath, and what does it do...
05:05.35neuralwindi dont see where u dial the number
05:06.04explidousneuralwind, so you have OSS or ALSA loaded and configured?
05:06.06arafath1st E1 work fine but when i try to call using 2nd E1 i can recive only ring but no voice
05:06.31neuralwindexplidous i dont know
05:06.55explidousneuralwind, how long are you using Astrerisk?
05:07.09neuralwindi never used
05:07.14neuralwindim trying to start now
05:07.21neuralwindand test it with my x100p
05:07.34explidousOK, you might want to do some reading first...
05:08.18neuralwindi think i have to edit some conf files first right
05:08.50explidoushttp://safari.oreilly.com/0596009623 its free for online reading and download
05:09.06neuralwindthanks
05:09.09explidousneuralwind, you have to edit A LOT
05:09.33explidousOr you can use something like Trixbox
05:10.04neuralwindi dont want to use all pbx features i just want to place a local call and see the call duration
05:10.22explidousA new version of the book is about to be released as well...
05:10.53explidousYou have to do some configuring to make it do anything!
05:11.15neuralwinddo u think it will be better to install asterisk gui?
05:11.22explidousOut of the box it is less versatile than a stone
05:11.56explidousasteriskNOW gives you a better start and even that requires some knowledge to operate...
05:12.36neuralwindcouldnt install asterisknow i had too many problems
05:12.53neuralwindin any case in that book u pass me is everything i need?
05:12.53explidousneuralwind, what problems?
05:13.24arafathst E1 work fine but when i try to call using 2nd E1 i can recive only ring but no voice
05:13.25arafathneuralwind explidous i dont know
05:13.33arafathsorry
05:14.49explidousarafath, what is your telco, what country are you in?
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05:15.45arafathmy telco using huwaie switch
05:16.16n3glvquick diagnose question
05:16.20n3glv<-- SIP read from 66.225.245.186:5060:
05:16.20n3glvINVITE sip:s@67.41.154.213 SIP/2.0
05:16.20n3glvVia: SIP/2.0/UDP 66.225.245.186:5060;branch=z9hG4bK4470f638;rport
05:16.27n3glvis this broken at itsp or pbx?
05:18.30explidousI think you have to create a trunkgoup like for NFAS basically with the same settings as for PRI NFAS
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05:19.03explidousn3glv, sorry not you ;-)
05:19.26n3glvnp
05:19.28n3glvdidn't look like it was to me.. ;-)
05:19.33raphxlquit
05:19.34n3glvI think we found it
05:19.56n3glvthe  provider req the /<did> on end of reg, he had 10 digits and they send 1+
05:20.02n3glv(11 digits)
05:20.02coppicearafath: I don't know how mature that SS7 code is. if you get serious problems, most people in south america are happily using * with R2.
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05:21.37explidousarafath, as I said as well this is not a heavy traveled path ;-)
05:22.14arafaththanx explidous
05:23.14explidousarafath, i am just reading thru chan_zap, you might try that as well
05:23.30explidousit looks like the NFAS is supposed to be the same
05:24.07arafathany link?
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05:25.50explidoustry /usr/src/asterisk ;-)
05:27.41explidousin my case /usr/src/asterisk-1.2.18/channels/chan_zap.c
05:35.13arafathwhat soft phone i can use for linux?
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05:40.15explidousthere is quite a selection... i like x-lite or twinkle
05:41.05explidousidefisk for IAX... but there are tons more...
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06:35.59rue_mohrok help
06:35.59rue_mohrdpo stands for?
06:37.52rue_mohroh cool
06:37.57rue_mohrhttp://www.electrodata.com/Acronym.htm
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06:42.12coppiceof course, they do make up half those acronyms on the spot :-)
06:46.01rue_mohr48% of all statistics are too
06:46.13rue_mohrok, I think I know the problem
06:46.43rue_mohrI can set the "function" of any the the set channels on the channelbank to any of..
06:46.57rue_mohrls_em, ls, gs, gs_em, plar, plar_fxo, gs_dnis, ls_dnis
06:47.02rue_mohrits an analog phone
06:47.08rue_mohrso iirc I want ls
06:47.14rue_mohr? sound right?
06:48.11rue_mohrI currently have it set to LGS_DPO, and you cant hang up
06:49.06coppiceground start would not be a good thing for a plain old phone
06:49.11rue_mohrLGS = loop start subsciber = analog phone
06:49.32rue_mohrhmm
06:49.32coppicesurely the G is ground
06:49.41rue_mohryea, gs ground start
06:49.45rue_mohrls = loop start
06:49.58rue_mohrls_em = ?????
06:50.09rue_mohrEMElement Manager
06:50.15rue_mohrwhatever that is
06:50.23coppice<PROTECTED>
06:50.34rue_mohr*blink*
06:50.47coppiceE&M, not S&M :-\
06:50.48rue_mohrwhich is... (I feel I should know this)
06:51.13coppiceE&M is ye olde ancient signalling scheme
06:51.14explidousear and mouth
06:51.36coppiceit is often called such, but that's not really correct
06:52.11explidousnone the less call that quite frequently...
06:52.22rue_mohr;First 4 channels are the FXO modular card
06:52.22rue_mohrsignalling = fxs_ls
06:52.22rue_mohrchannel=>1-6
06:52.23rue_mohrok
06:52.48rue_mohrso I suppose I set the cahnnelbank to LGS_LS
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06:55.43rue_mohrinteresting
06:55.45rue_mohr<PROTECTED>
06:55.45rue_mohr<PROTECTED>
06:55.45bluelinqhello
06:55.53rue_mohrthe status is different
06:55.58bluelinqanyone with 7960 sccp phones?
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07:00.16bluelinqnobody with a cisco phone?
07:03.43rue_mohrnot I
07:03.49rue_mohrI can only afford analog ones
07:03.56bluelinq:-0
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07:21.26rue_mohrnow what the diff between ls and ls_em
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07:22.00coppice_em
07:26.00rue_mohranyone have a channelbank of a T1 card they can take a look at something for me with?
07:28.15rue_mohrI'm sure if I have debug dialed up I should see digits pressed on a picked up phone
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08:15.55rue_mohrok, I have a handset to my ear that asterisk is giving mehte demo on
08:16.06rue_mohrzap show channel 1
08:16.11rue_mohrHookstate (FXS only): Onhook
08:16.14rue_mohrerm
08:16.29rue_mohrwhy is it talking to me if it thinks the phone is on the hook?
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08:55.01yonahw-worki am using realtime with mysql driver and the information for dbuser and dbpass in res_mysql.conf is not what is being passed to mysql
08:55.05yonahw-workany ideas why?
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09:01.33yonahw-workanyone awake?
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09:10.20_omerhello
09:10.20yonahw-workhi
09:10.22_omerdoes asterisk support SIP/SIMPLE  for instant messaging ?
09:10.36yonahw-worksorry don't know
09:10.50_omernp :)
09:11.14yonahw-workdo you have any experience with mysql realtime?
09:11.29_omeryes
09:11.45_omeru mean realtime asterisk with mysql ?
09:11.56yonahw-workyes, with the mysql driver
09:12.10_omeryes.
09:12.32yonahw-workit seems that  res_config_mysql.c is not using my res_mysql.conf file to connect
09:12.52yonahw-workis the res_mysql.conf supposed to reside in /etc/asterisk?
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09:15.03_omeryou just need to config couple of files...
09:15.04_omerlike
09:16.34yonahw-workwhen i look at the debug it is not connecting to mysql however the info it is using is not what is in res_mysql.conf
09:17.57_omerhave you install asterisk-addons?>
09:18.03yonahw-workyes
09:18.07_omerand get res_mysql.conf
09:18.14yonahw-workgot it
09:18.35_omerit shud be in /etc/asterisk
09:18.40yonahw-workit is
09:18.56_omeredit it to suit our config..
09:19.08_omerdbhost, dbname, dbpass
09:19.14_omeryour config*
09:19.18yonahw-worki did that but it seems that is not the info being used
09:20.06yonahw-workthe connection fails and when i look in the debug it seems that the dbuser, dbpass and socket are all wrong
09:21.19_omerhave you change extconfig.conf ?
09:21.29yonahw-workyes
09:22.02yonahw-workthe connection to the database is failing so nothing else will work
09:22.38_omerhave you allowed your IP Address in mysql ?
09:22.47yonahw-workits on the local machine
09:22.59yonahw-workasterisk can connect for the cdr
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09:24.02_omerok
09:24.09_omerwhat about the tables for realtime ?
09:24.14_omercreated?
09:24.50_omerextconfig.conf should have lines something like
09:24.52_omerextensions => mysql,asterisk,extensions_table
09:24.52_omersipusers => mysql,asterisk,sip_buddies
09:24.52_omersippeers => mysql,asterisk,sip_buddies
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09:25.25yonahw-worki got all that done but i dont see how any of that would matter if asterisk is failing to connect to mysql
09:26.38yonahw-worki get "MySQL RealTime: Cannot Connect (2002): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/tmp/mysql.sock" and that isnt even the right socket path
09:27.26yonahw-worki have  /var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock in res_mysql.conf
09:28.00_omerand asterisk is able to insert cdr in the same mysql server?
09:28.20yonahw-workyes same database different table
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10:10.35mvanbaakmornin all
10:11.11cnbrkhi
10:11.24mvanbaakskinny doesn't support regcontext ?
10:17.34_omerdoes asterisk support SIP/SIMPLE  for instant messaging ?
10:25.05robin_szso, I have an * box ...
10:25.05robin_szapart from the CLI is there some way to see what calls etc are in progress?
10:25.06robin_szI looked at one thing once, umm, flash operators panel, but its wasnt really suitable
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10:58.18robin_szso, is there some way to reset the SIP 'inuse' counters apart from rebooting * ?
10:58.29robin_szit seems abit crap to have to reboot it all the time
11:05.51yonahw-workcan anybody help me with a asterisk real time problem.  res_mysql.conf is apparently not being read properly since the debug file shows wrong settings being used
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11:30.08omriis it possible to compile a channel module without the asterisk source? I'm using debian's asterisk package and I hate to replace it...
11:31.52pipwerkno, but you could install the debian asterisk package source as well ;-)
11:33.10omrierr I didn't have a deb-src line in my sources.list; that's why apt-get source asterisk didn't work :P
11:33.21omriI was thinking there's no source package for asterisk :P
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11:45.09mvanbaak12:11 <       mvanbaak> skinny doesn't support regcontext ?
11:45.12mvanbaaknow it does :)
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11:50.11robin_szso, is there some way to reset the SIP 'inuse' counters apart from rebooting * ?
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13:32.31philippelhey all - any thoughts on what would make an em_w T1 setup work fine for inbound, and call outbound but yet the outbound calls are never 'answered' (so dial hangs up after the ring time option expires)?
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13:37.04Swat2how would one set inbound sip and zaptel calls CallerID Name to the CallerID Number (My Telco doesnt do this).
13:38.11mvanbaakexten => incoming,n,Set(CALLERID(name)=${CALLERID(num)})
13:39.28Swat2in extensions.conf, just under [from-zaptel]  ?
13:40.00mvanbaakif incoming calls go there, yeah
13:40.14mvanbaakput it as a step in the normal handling of incoming calls
13:40.27mvanbaakreplace the 'incoming' with the exten you are using
13:41.11Swat2i want to do it globally for any zap or incomming sip calls
13:49.11Swat2mmm, nope still not working
13:49.20Swat2look at it harder tomorrow i spose
13:49.26Swat2sleep time
13:49.28Swat2cheers
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13:54.05robin_szso, is there some way to reset the SIP 'inuse' counters apart from rebooting * ?
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14:22.24Greek-Boydoes anyone know of carrier-grade IAX2 capable devices?
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14:35.37hmepashi. I have such scheme: [HW PHONES]<private net 172.*.*.*>[172.*.*.1<- Asterisk ->Real IP]<internet>[Real IP<-Nat Server->Private IP]<another private net>[SOFT PHONES].
14:35.43hmepasAll phones could call each other. But I could hear voice only when calling from
14:35.43hmepassoft to soft phone or only when call from HW to HW phones. For soft phones I am
14:35.43hmepasusing nat=yes in * settings. STUN not using. Any suggestion how to force work HW
14:35.43hmepas<PROTECTED>
14:36.05hmepashelp me, safe maillist from another stupid throll =)
14:38.56robin_szhmepas, you need to forward the rtp ports through your NAT router
14:39.36robin_szthe NAT is passing the SIP control channel, but not the RTP ports, thats all
14:40.12robin_szeasiest answer is to use IAX2 based softphones, as it all goes down the same channel
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14:51.08psi0nhey all
14:51.40psi0ni have a small question, im guessing quite easy actually..
14:51.48hmepasrobin_sz: ty, could you tell me the name of softphone based on IAX2? Linux version prefered.
14:52.34hmepasrobin_sz: and without rtp ports forwarding how both my softphones work each other? It's bcos them both in same network?
14:53.04hmepasrobin_sz: bah, you mean all this 16384-32767  to forward?
14:53.26Dovidpsi0n: whats the question ?
14:53.51psi0ni need the line "exten => s,n,SIPDtmfMode(inband)" to come after "exten => s,1,Set(FROM_DID=s)" under [ext-did] in extensions_additional.conf, but by using [ext-did-custom] in extensions_custom.conf
14:54.07psi0ni've tried the following:
14:54.19psi0n[ext-did-custom]
14:54.20psi0nexten => s,2,SIPDtmfMode(inband)
14:54.20psi0n; end of [ext-did-custom]
14:54.27psi0ndidnt work
14:54.43Dovidpaste ur configs on p
14:54.44Dovid~pb
14:54.46jbotwell, pb is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try  http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste
14:55.02psi0nhmm ok, brb
14:55.19robin_szhmepas, yes all those ports to forward for SIP
14:55.34robin_szyes, they work on the same netwrok because the rtp does not go through asterisk
14:56.08Dovidpsi0n: I have to run. robin_sz is real good at helping others ;)
14:56.10Dovid:P
14:56.13robin_szI dont know of any working linux softphoens based on iax2
14:56.47hmepasrobin_sz: what's about windows iax2 based soft phones?
14:57.02robin_szhmepas, firefly (closed source)
14:57.38hmepasit's need port forwarding too? (sorry i know it's stupid question)
14:57.43robin_szhttp://iaxclient.sourceforge.net/iaxcomm/
14:57.46coppiceiaxcomm runs on windows and linux, and supports IAX2
14:57.56robin_szIAX2 does not need port forwarding
14:58.39robin_szcoppice, I never managed to get the audio working on linux, but yes, in theory, it shold work
14:59.20robin_szso, is there some way to reset the SIP 'inuse' counters apart from rebooting * ?
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14:59.35coppiceI use it sometimes. it has its limitations, but I never had an audio problem
15:02.48psi0nok im back
15:03.15psi0nhttp://pastebin.ca/498563
15:03.51psi0nrobin_sz: perhaps you could take a look at it if you don't mind?
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15:06.36robin_szusing AMP?
15:07.23psi0ni am using AMP yes (freePBX), but making the changes in question directly in the conf files
15:07.39robin_szbetter go and ask on #freepbx
15:08.07psi0noh.. i thought this would be more of an asterisk question
15:08.12coppicei'm using AMP in conjunction with VOLT on this machine
15:08.32robin_szI know nothing of AMP and its weird configs that it writes
15:09.03psi0nok, np. i'll check there..
15:09.03robin_szwhat you cold do is ...
15:09.12psi0n?
15:09.25robin_szedit the conf the way you want and then not use AMP again, so it wont overwrite it?
15:09.27mvanbaakremove freepbx
15:09.28mvanbaak;)
15:09.31psi0nlol
15:10.53psi0nrobin_sz: yea, that is an option, or at least insert the line every time i make a change thru AMP, but i'd rather try doing it the proper way if possible
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15:11.21robin_szerrr, editing it by hand and not using amp IS the proper way of doingit
15:11.28psi0nhehe
15:11.30robin_szits basically an AMP problem
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15:59.10jangellI'm using Asterisk and have a T1 with E&M Wink.  Asterisk is not recognizing that calls are being answered on outbound calls and hangs up after the 300 second timeout.  Any idea?
16:02.52ManxPowerjangell: Chances are the telco's wink settings are different from Asterisk's default ones.
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16:03.54ManxPowerjangell: Try putting in:
16:03.55ManxPowerwink=270
16:03.56ManxPowerrxwink=270
16:04.06ManxPowerbefore the channel lines in /etc/asterisk/zapata.conf
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16:04.33Strom_Mif you wink at the telco too much, the telco might think you're asking it out on a date
16:07.48ixxhow can you make asterisk ignore pressing '#' when calling into some remote automated phone system that is requiring you to press '#'
16:08.05ixx... local outbound asterisk ignoring it ...
16:08.56Strom_Mixx: turn off the crap in features.conf
16:09.10Strom_Mad then don't pass "t" or "T" as an argument to "Dial"
16:09.45Strom_Ms/ad/and/
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16:13.06kombimy very first hardware ip phone, do I need dhcp for asterisk to find it?
16:13.49ixx<PROTECTED>
16:14.22ixxI would like to have T sometimes
16:14.28ixxbut for now I will leave it off
16:14.44Strom_Mixx: there are better ways of doing transfers
16:14.50ixxyeh?
16:14.53Strom_Mhookflashes, the TRANSFER button, etc
16:15.24Qwelldead hookflashes?
16:15.32Strom_Mhahahhahahahhahaahhaha
16:15.33ixxah... i have done the hookflash... have not thought about that for a while
16:15.34Strom_M<3 Qwell
16:16.28kombiwill a cisco 7941 work right away or does it need to be tweaked first?
16:17.03mvanbaakkombi: running SIP or Skinny ?
16:19.39jangellManxPower, I figured it out... adding callprogress=yes   worked.....I thought callprogress was only for analog lines?
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16:20.36ManxPowerjangell: callprogress will make your calls disconnect randomly.  You have to fix the basic problem.  Call progress only MASKS the real problem
16:20.54jangellManxPower, ok.  i'll try those..
16:21.11ManxPowerjangell: callprogress is for an zap channel type that does not have answer and disconnect supervision
16:22.35hmepasrobin_sz: thanks man, you my hero. DNAT didn't helped but IAX2 worked great, now i could fully test my phones. Thanks a lot.
16:22.47jangellManxPower, 270 doesnt work
16:23.15robin_szhmepas, no problem, that will be 15 euro, standard fee.
16:23.28robin_szso, is there some way to reset the SIP 'inuse' counters apart from rebooting * ?
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16:25.16Greek-Boyanyone know what kind of voicemail servers the big mobile telcos use?
16:25.40Strom_MGreek-Boy: usually big expensive telco-grade voicemail stuff
16:26.20Greek-Boyyeah so where can I find that kinda stuff?
16:26.31Strom_Mwhy?
16:27.25Greek-Boycoz I'm compiling a biz plan for a wimax mobile operator opportunity
16:27.37rue_mohrI'm having a signaling problem with my channelbank and would like to know more about how they work, any references anyone can suggest?
16:27.48Mad||CowAnyone ever have any issues with POTS lines being very quite? I have my RXgain up all the way to compensate, but it sounds horrible. Wondering if I have something miss configured that is causing this.
16:28.09Strom_Mrue_mohr: what kind of signaling problem?
16:28.17Strom_MMad||Cow: don't you mean "quiet"?
16:28.40Mad||Cowstrom_m: yeah... sorry ;-)
16:28.45rue_mohrStrom_M, mainly that the best I'v been able to do, is to have asterisk think the phone is off the hook when its on, and on the hook when its off
16:29.04Strom_MMad||Cow: you should never have to set rxgain higher than about 5 or 6
16:29.09rue_mohrI been scouring google for d channel protocol info and didn't really find squat
16:29.22Strom_Mrue_mohr: uh, channel banks != ISDN
16:29.31Mad||CowStrom_M: I have mine set at 8.... and I still have to turn my headsetups up all the way
16:29.38ManxPowerrue_mohr: In the USA the D-Channel uses the Q.931 protocol.
16:29.44rue_mohrmainstreet 3624
16:29.55ManxPowerEuroISDN might use a varient of that,I would think
16:30.20rue_mohrmy buddy who gave it to me pioneered the asterisk work so far on it, but didn't finish
16:30.50Strom_Mrue_mohr: how many analog ports does it have?
16:30.53rue_mohrStrom_M, sorry if i'm mixed up, I'm new to this :)
16:31.01ManxPowerrue_mohr: And no, channel banks use channelized T-1 (CAS, in the USA) and not ISTN
16:31.05rue_mohrI have 6 FXS and 2 FXO
16:31.22ManxPowerrue_mohr: what signalling is the channel bank set for?
16:31.35rue_mohrloop start
16:31.53Strom_Mwhat kind of framing and line coding is it supposed to be using?
16:32.04rue_mohrbz...
16:32.16ManxPowerrue_mohr: then you need to set Asterisk for loopstart,  It would be fxo kewlstart signalling for the FXS ports and fxs kewlstart for the fxo ports.
16:32.31Strom_MManxPower: are you high or something?
16:32.31ManxPowerremember fxo ports use fxs signalling and fxs ports use fxo signalling
16:32.37Strom_Mkewlstart != loopstart
16:32.38rue_mohryup
16:32.44jangellManxPower, If I call up XO and ask them how many ms for the wink are they gonna have any clue what I'm talking about?
16:32.45ManxPowerStrom_M: just waking up.
16:32.45rue_mohrwell
16:32.52kombimvanbaak: sorry, the phone rang, skinny up to now
16:33.21ManxPowerStrom_M: no, but most loopstart devices provide far end disconnect supervision and so they would be kewlstart
16:33.21rue_mohrsignalling = fxs_ls
16:33.21rue_mohrchannel=>1-6
16:33.21mvanbaakkombi: my 7960 and 7905 work fine with skinny
16:33.27mvanbaakbut you need asterisk-svn for it to work good
16:33.31mvanbaakI think
16:33.37mvanbaakdont know the skinny state in 1.4
16:33.38ManxPowerrue_mohr: ports 1-6 are FXO ports?
16:33.56mvanbaakin 1.2 you can use skinny too, but you will need chan_sccp for that
16:33.58rue_mohrno
16:34.03mvanbaakand chan_sccp is not very good
16:34.05rue_mohrwait a sec
16:34.16rue_mohrthere are analog phones on ports 1-6
16:34.25rue_mohryou saying I have the setting backwards?
16:34.31ManxPowerrue_then the signalling must be fxo_ls
16:34.32kombimvanbaak: hmm, what version might the debian package be..
16:34.42kombijust checking..
16:34.45rue_mohrthat might explain the backwards operation
16:34.47ManxPower(11:32:00) ManxPower: remember fxo ports use fxs signalling and fxs ports use fxo signalling
16:34.48mvanbaakdebian packages are 1.2
16:34.53Mad||CowIf I have a phone line plugged into my pbx (that I am using to place and receive calls), am I using fxs or fxo signaling?
16:35.02kombimvanbaak: sigh..
16:35.03ManxPower(11:32:00) ManxPower: remember fxo ports use fxs signalling and fxs ports use fxo signalling
16:35.07rue_mohrok, I'm go change that up and try it out, thanks
16:35.16ManxPoweram I on channel wide /ignore?
16:35.20kombimvanbaak: I should compile my own then..
16:35.34Strom_Mwelcome to #asterisk, land of the balls and home of the cocks
16:35.42mvanbaakyeah. or put the SIP image on the phone
16:35.49ManxPowerStrom_M: sounds like torture to me
16:36.10rue_mohrManxPower, sorry, I did hear you, it just mixed me up is all
16:36.24rue_mohr"a man hears what he wants to"
16:36.30ManxPowerrue_mohr: I was referring to Mad||Cow
16:37.14kombimvanbaak: I wonder what might be more hassle, compiling asterisk or flashing the cisco phones with sip
16:37.38ManxPowerkombi: flashing the phone is much more work
16:37.45Mad||CowManxPower: sorry... I'm kind of new to this... I just dont understand the difference between fxo and fxs.
16:38.09kombiManxPower: I am just reading it.. tftp and all..
16:38.11rue_mohrhere is a question I'd like to throw out there if anyone knows but isn't critical
16:38.15ManxPower~fxofxs
16:38.17jbotextra, extra, read all about it, fxofxs is An FXO port expects to receive dialtone and receive ring voltage, you plug a phone LINE into this.  An FXS port expects to provide dialtone and provide ring voltage, you plug a PHONE into this.
16:39.00kombiManxPower, mvanbaak: so, apt-get remove --purge asterisk and start over..;)
16:39.03rue_mohrhere is a question I'd like to throw out there if anyone knows, the 'function of a card can be set to    ls_em, ls, gs, gs_em, plar, plar_fxo, gs_dnis, ls_dnis, or dpo
16:39.12Greek-Boyis there a way to turn off the "comedian mail" intro when going to mailbox?
16:39.12rue_mohrwhats with plar and dpo?
16:39.22Strom_Mprivate line automatic ringdown
16:39.41rue_mohrpickit up and it makes the call automatically?
16:39.43ManxPowerrue_mohr: PLAR == Batphone
16:39.43Strom_MGreek-Boy: yes, specify the mailbox number
16:40.00Greek-Boyok
16:40.16robin_szso, whenever I do a blind transfer,  the transferrign phone is left with an in-use figure, even though it no longer has any calls
16:40.17Mad||CowManxPower: hrm. So if I have a bunch of PSTN lines plugged into my phone system, in the zapta.conf defining them as fxsks=1 would be incorrect?
16:40.38robin_szresult, I do a txfr, and then I can;t rx anymore calls
16:40.40ManxPowerMad||Cow: that would be correct, but it only specifies port 1
16:40.46robin_szsip show inuse confirms this
16:40.53Mad||CowManxPower: understood
16:41.00ManxPowerrobin_sz: using calllimit ?
16:41.04Strom_MMad||Cow: ManxPower> (11:32:00) ManxPower: remember fxo ports use fxs signalling and fxs ports use fxo signalling
16:41.06robin_szerr?
16:41.10robin_szam I?
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16:41.28robin_szI have a call limit of 1, which is correct
16:41.28ManxPowerrobin_sz: The answer would be yes or no
16:41.42Strom_Mthe answer is balls
16:41.45ManxPowerrobin_sz: call limit interactly badly with just about everything in asterisk
16:41.53robin_szriiiight ...
16:42.00robin_szso ... what IS th answer then?
16:42.14ManxPowertransfers don't decriment the call limit, vfor example.
16:42.22ManxPowerI'm never ever needed to use call limit
16:42.24robin_szthis I have noted
16:42.36robin_szOK, so ... how do I not use call limit?
16:42.58ManxPowerrobin_sz: There are a zillion ways to not use call limit.
16:43.38kombimvanbaak: just while you're still around, do you just plug the 7941 in and off it goes?
16:43.42ManxPowerWe turn off call waiting on our phones and have each line register as a different SIP ID.  We do the call apprearance aka line hunting using Asterisk and DIALSTATUS or HANGUPCAUSE
16:43.45rue_mohrMay 20 03:07:42 ERROR[2664] chan_zap.c: Signalling requested on channel 1 is FXO Loopstart but line is in FXS Loopstart signalling
16:43.47rue_mohr:/
16:43.47robin_szManxPower, well, my desired behaviour is that if I am on the phone, I dont want it trying to ring, it shoudl do "the person you are calling is not available"
16:44.01rue_mohrso it was right
16:44.08Strom_Mrue_mohr: NO
16:44.09ManxPowerrobin_sz: turn off call waiting then
16:44.19rue_mohrso somethign lse is wrong?
16:44.32Strom_Mrue_mohr: you have to make the zaptel,conf and zapata.conf files agree
16:44.32ManxPowerrue_mohr: you have to change it in /etc/zaptel.conf too and rerun ztcfg -vvv
16:44.35robin_szso, no call limit, no call waiitng, right?
16:44.41ManxPowerrobin_sz: correct
16:44.46robin_sz'k
16:44.56rue_mohrI changed zapata.conf
16:44.58ManxPowerrobin_sz: and make sure your phone registeres each line as a different SIP ID.
16:45.06robin_szque?
16:45.14ManxPowerrue_mohr: there are TWO files.  /etc/zaptel.conf and /etc/asterisk/zapata.conf
16:45.23ManxPowerrobin_sz: how many lines does your phone have?
16:45.45rue_mohr1 right now
16:45.51robin_sz1 I think
16:45.59Strom_Mtoday must be Super Stupid Sunday in #asterisk
16:46.02rue_mohrgot a second on its way in a few months
16:46.09robin_szwell, it has 9 I think, but I use 1
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16:46.19rue_mohrhah
16:46.21rue_mohrsorry
16:46.36DavieyHi, is zaptel-dummy still required for meet-me?
16:46.48ManxPowerrobin_sz: many phones will register all lines as ONE SIP account.  If that is the case, for most phones the call will just roll over to the next available line.
16:47.00Strom_MDaviey: yes, unless you have a zaptel card
16:47.02DavieyAnd that still requires zaptel kernel patch?
16:47.11ManxPowerif the phone registers each line as a DIFFERENT SIP account then you do not have the problem
16:47.15Strom_Mkernel patch?
16:47.19Strom_Mwtf?
16:47.32robin_szManxPower, ahh, when I didnt have call_limit, I did notice that line 2 rang when another call was incoming
16:47.35Davieyhmm - i thought i had to patch the kernel last time with the zaptel driver
16:47.40ManxPowerDaviey: The linux kernel has not had to be patched for Zaptel in many many years.
16:47.41Strom_Mit's a module you load in.  it's not a patch
16:47.58Strom_Mjesus, it's Super Stupid Sunday in #asterisk - Party like it's 2002
16:48.00ManxPowerrobin_sz: That would be expected since you are not setting up a seperate SIP account for each line.
16:48.11Davieythank you...
16:48.13robin_szright
16:48.42rue_mohrheh, I need 5 more analog phones for testing :)
16:48.55rue_mohrBIIIG money there ;)
16:48.58ManxPowerrobin_sz: you have VERY little control over how the call appears on the phone unless you have each line on the phone register as a different SIP user to Asterisk.
16:49.16robin_szuhh
16:49.19robin_szhow horrid
16:49.21ManxPowerWe just use the MAC address of the device as the sip.conf userid and add a -a -b -c etc to indicate the line appearance
16:49.41robin_szhmmm
16:49.41rue_mohrOOooo
16:49.48rue_mohrsays its on the hook, AND IT IS!
16:49.57Strom_Minstant cock
16:49.58rue_mohrsweet!
16:49.59Strom_Mjust add water
16:50.05rue_mohrI pick it up and it talks to me
16:50.05robin_szManxPower, that seems to make snese
16:50.18rue_mohrsweet, it knows when I hang up!
16:50.32rue_mohrmy guru versaw that one
16:50.34ManxPowerrobin_sz: It is critically important that you never thing and extension = device
16:50.40ManxPowerthing == think
16:50.40rue_mohrI wonder how he missed that
16:50.57ManxPowerrue_mohr: I've been using Asterisk for at least 4 years
16:51.04rue_mohrI must speak with the great kb1_kanobe about this
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16:51.13rue_mohryea...
16:51.24rue_mohrhe thought the state machine needed to be moded
16:51.31rue_mohr:/
16:51.37rue_mohrthis is sweet
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16:51.56Strom_Mrue_mohr: obviously he's an idiot
16:52.01DrukenLPYafternoon peoples
16:52.02ManxPowerprogrammers always think the fix requires new code.
16:52.08robin_szManxPower, while you are on ;) ... I subscribed several blf buttons  to other peers, they do seem to light up when the extension is ringing, and if the phone answers an incoming call
16:52.19robin_szbut they dont show if the user makes an outgoing call
16:52.23rue_mohrI promise all my following questions will be related to extensions programming and up :)
16:52.24DrukenLPYanyone here ever used a wrt54g as a server?
16:52.34ManxPowerStrom_M: kb1_kenobie wrote one of the Zaptel ECs and also did the tellabs wiki page
16:52.53Strom_MManxPower: /me puts foot firmly in mouth
16:52.55mvanbaakkombi: sorry, vim took all my attention
16:53.13mvanbaakkombi: I had to setup a tftp server and put some xml configs there to make the 79XX working
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16:53.44kombivi rules.., thanks!
16:53.50ManxPowerStrom_M: on the other hand I sent him an e-mail titles "Help me kb1_kenobie, you're my only hope" and he never responded to it.
16:54.02kombimvanbaak: with skinny that is?
16:54.04rue_mohrAHA! and the channelbank stopped flashing 4!!!!
16:54.08mvanbaakkombi: yeah
16:54.12ManxPowerMaybe I should have signed it "Princess Leia"
16:54.15rue_mohrits flashing 0 now! I like that!
16:54.18kombithanks!
16:54.21danw_homeI'm sure this is user error, forgive me if it is documented somewhere but I've been trawling for a while with no luck:  I'm using Waitexten to wait for a short while for digits from an inbound call on a SIP channel.  I can see all four digits arriving in INFO messages from my gateway but for some reason asterisk only registers the first digit ... any ideas why ?
16:54.51Strom_Mdanw_home: do you have a suitable pattern match in that context?
16:54.53ManxPowerdanw_home: is asterisk set up for INFO?
16:54.54danw_homethe console message is  __ast_pbx_run: Invalid extension '1', but no rule 'i' in context 'conference'
16:55.05danw_homewhere I've actually sent "1234"
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16:55.17danw_homeyeah, I've set "relax" in the sip.conf
16:55.24Strom_Mdanw_home: theres' nothing to match "1234" in the context
16:55.25Greek-Boycan asterisk act as an sms centre?
16:55.27ManxPowerdanw_home: all that does is ause problem
16:55.32danw_homeyes, I've tried _XXXX and an explicit 1234
16:55.45ManxPowerdtmfmode=INFO
16:55.53ManxPowerrelaxdtmf=no
16:55.54danw_homelemme try that
16:56.09Mad||CowManxPower: In /etc/zaptel.cof I have fxoks=1; In zapata.conf I have signalling=fxo_ks for channel => 1 however, when I try and start asterisk now, I get chan_zap.c: Unable to register channel '1'. I changed everything over to fxo as you suggested.
16:56.22danw_homefunny thing is, if I type "2345" it says Invalid extension '2' ...
16:56.35danw_homeso it's obviously getting at least the first digit.
16:56.55ManxPowerdanw_home: the issue could be any number of problems
16:57.01Strom_Mdanw_home: pastebin the relevant section of extensions.conf
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16:58.08robin_szwhere can i get asterisk sounds in english?
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16:58.25rue_mohrsounds?
16:58.27Strom_Masterisk.org
16:58.37Strom_Mor in the freaking tarball
16:58.45coilhow do i dial a phone number??
16:59.12danw_homeManxPower your suggestion fixed it, thanks.
16:59.19Strom_Mcoil: you use chan_imacompletetard.so
16:59.23robin_szStrom_M, there is an english version in the tarball?
16:59.28coilhow do i use that!?!?!
16:59.31danw_homethanks for your help
16:59.48Strom_Mrobin_sz: yes
16:59.57robin_szcoo.
17:00.09rue_mohrhey erm, anyone have a simple little dial plan I can leech?
17:00.22robin_szbecause this american woman is driving me dippy
17:00.25ManxPowerAnyone is welcome to send money via paypal to eric@fnords.org
17:00.40Fieldyspammer?
17:00.46Strom_Mrobin_sz: technically she's canadian
17:01.01robin_szthats part of america
17:01.03rue_mohrManxPower, is that a hint?
17:01.03ManxPowerrue_mohr: there really is no such thing as a simple dialplan
17:01.08rue_mohrheh
17:01.18Strom_Mrobin_sz: you bloody brits and your hash key gibberish
17:01.27ManxPowerrue_mohr: It is a hint to anyone I have helped.
17:01.37Strom_Mmarmite and chutney and quid
17:01.47Fieldyah. well toss that in what you said :) otherwise some may think it's spam
17:01.50robin_szquid?
17:01.50rue_mohrManxPower, are you the digium man?
17:01.57robin_szoh, the POUND
17:02.05robin_szor 50c as you say in the USA
17:02.08ManxPowerrue_mohr: I do not work for Digium in any way.
17:02.20rue_mohroh
17:02.28ManxPowerSince I don't work for Digium, I can be mean to people that deserve it.
17:02.29rue_mohrjust a regular guru eh
17:02.59robin_szStrom_M, ok, are there english sounds OTHER than alison in the tarball?
17:03.09rue_mohroh man I really need to think about this
17:03.21Strom_Mrobin_sz: so when you say "English" you really mean "British English"
17:03.24ManxPowerrobin_sz: look on the Wiki or the maling list archives
17:03.28Fieldysurely you can look yourself?
17:03.28rue_mohrlets see, the house has 11 rooms, and there is one outside shop
17:03.46rue_mohrso I cant see needing more than 99 extensions
17:03.52robin_szStrom_M, yes, I guess I do.
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17:03.54rue_mohrso I could use two digits
17:04.03Strom_M+1 ambiguity points
17:04.03Strom_M+1 geocentrism
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17:04.23Strom_Mrudholm!
17:04.31rudholmStrom_M!
17:04.35Strom_Mwhat are you doing at work?
17:04.50rudholmwho says  I'm at work?
17:04.56Qwellfreenoed
17:05.02Qwellfreenode too
17:05.09Strom_Mfreenoid
17:05.17rudholmah, no, I just run irssi on my work box
17:05.41rudholminside 'screen'
17:06.02Qwellrobin_sz: feel free to hire somebody to record some, and contribute them
17:06.02Strom_Mrudholm: so how about I stop procrastinating and bring all those interface cards over to that area code / rate center boundary of yours?
17:06.19rudholmbritish sounds?  I think I have a recording of the sound of the inside of a pub around here somewhere if you want...
17:06.22robin_szsurely I cant be the only brit using asterisk?
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17:06.38rue_mohrok, how about this
17:06.55rue_mohrI'll make my goal to be able to dial one phone from another
17:06.58ManxPowerrobin_sz: a 15 second google search turned up many references to birish sounds
17:07.02Fieldyrun a google search maybe you can find what you are looking for. else, hey, the sound that come with it are fine and well done ,use em. failing that you could always make your own.
17:07.07ManxPowerResults 1 - 10 of about 810,000 English pages for asterisk british sounds.  (0.18 seconds) 
17:07.09FieldyManxPower beat me to it doh
17:07.14ManxPowerNow get off your lazy ass and look for yourself.
17:07.19rudholmStrom_M: yeah, that sounds good.  I don't have any plans for today that I can recall.  I need to wake up and stuff first, though.
17:07.29Strom_Mrudholm: me too
17:07.32Strom_Mim still in bed
17:07.38rudholmah
17:07.59Strom_Mdo you want to do the breakfast thing?  i havent eaten yet
17:08.50rudholmMy landscaper is supposed to show up to talk to me, so I should probably stay here.
17:09.01Strom_Mok
17:09.19rudholmgonna go see Fred
17:09.19rudholm?
17:09.35rue_mohris the default demo progrmming 100% in extensions.conf or is alot of it somewhere else, I cant find where it picks up
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17:09.52Strom_Meither fred, Casa Rudholm, or Cerca de Casa Rudholm
17:10.04rue_mohraha
17:10.19rudholmheh
17:10.40Mad||CowManxPower: If I put fxoks in my /et/zaptel.conf and do a ztcfg -vv it complains about an invlaid argument and says something about "Did you forget that FXS interfaces are configured with FXO signalling". Are you positive that the line running from my phone company should be defined as fxoks in zaptel.conf?
17:10.43rue_mohrheh, I can use hte at&t demo for something phone related
17:11.43ManxPowerMad||Cow: Read the jbot message CAREFULLY
17:11.46ManxPower~fxofxs
17:11.47jbotmethinks fxofxs is An FXO port expects to receive dialtone and receive ring voltage, you plug a phone LINE into this.  An FXS port expects to provide dialtone and provide ring voltage, you plug a PHONE into this.
17:12.09ManxPowerFXO ports use FXS signalling.  FXS ports use FXO signalling
17:12.23Strom_Mhttp://www.jerkcity.com/jerkcity2786.html
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17:14.25Mad||CowManxPower: So then you are correct. I should deinfe the ports as fxo in /etc/zaptel.conf as the input to them has voltage and dial tone
17:14.38ManxPower*sigh*
17:14.51lee_is_melol
17:14.56ManxPowerMad||Cow: There is a test: What kind of ports do you plug a phone line into?
17:14.59Mad||CowManxPower: sorry ;-)
17:15.15Mad||CowManxPower: FXO
17:15.35ManxPowerMad||Cow: Correct!  What signalling do FXO ports use?
17:15.44Mad||CowManxPower: FXS
17:15.50ManxPowerMad||Cow: correct!
17:16.04ManxPowernow you know how to set up /etc/zaptel.conf and /etc/asterisk/zapata.conf
17:16.51Mad||CowManxPower: so then zaptel.conf should define my channels as FXO right?
17:17.08rue_mohrMad||Cow, channelbank?
17:17.19ManxPowerMad||Cow: no.
17:17.32ManxPowerin zaptel.conf you specify the SIGNALLING not the PORT TYPE.
17:17.41ManxPowerand what kind of signalling do FXO ports use?
17:17.52Mad||CowManxPower: FXS gotcha
17:18.02Strom_MFXcocks
17:18.04Mad||CowManxPower: then where do i define the port type?
17:18.12ManxPowerMad||Cow: nowhere.
17:18.30ManxPoweryou can't change the port type, so there is no point in setting it in a config file.
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17:19.21Mad||CowManxPower: makes since... just a bit confusing
17:19.31Strom_Mmakes since what
17:19.35Strom_Mor did you mean "makes sense"
17:19.50robin_szOK, I found british sounds in a-law
17:19.51Mad||CowStrom_M: #2
17:19.56robin_szG711a
17:20.19robin_szbut what about my custom announcements I recorderd as gsm?
17:20.24rudholmrobin_sz: yeah, that'd make sense, wouldn't it?
17:20.32Fieldyjust use then, you'll be fine
17:20.40Strom_Myou should have recorded them as wav or alaw for higher quality ;)
17:20.41Fieldythem
17:20.46robin_szright
17:21.30robin_szso I just made sounds_american and sounds_british directories,
17:22.49robin_szummm ... but I cant find where /usr/share/asterisk/sounds/ is set in the * configs
17:23.03Strom_Mshould be /var/lib/asterisk/sounds
17:23.15Strom_Mlook in /etc/asterisk/asterisk.conf
17:23.15robin_szwheely?
17:23.38robin_sznope
17:23.43robin_szntothing to do with sounds in there
17:24.54pipwerkastdatadir?
17:26.00robin_szdont have that as a setting
17:26.11robin_szastvarlibdir
17:26.12robin_sz?
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17:29.11rue_mohrdoes everything usually start with [default]?
17:29.35rue_mohrI could use like a 3 line extensions.conf so I know whats fluff and whats not
17:30.18robin_szbah poxy partially complete soundsets
17:31.02robin_sz"British English Female basic VM system intended to replace the default Asterisk installation"
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17:31.10robin_szno mailbox full ....
17:32.12rue_mohrwonder what a dialplan would look like that barked at you and hung up.
17:32.25rue_mohr"woof" 'click'
17:33.09|Tiger|is there any web-based system for adding user for asterisk?
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17:37.03robin_zso, to empty out a load of unused voicemailboxes?
17:37.08robin_zjust delete the /var/spool/asterisk/voicemail/default/foo ?
17:37.11robin_zor is there data with it?
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17:41.39[TK]D-Fenderrobin_z, Yes, you can somply trash the whole folder
17:41.59robin_zta
17:42.02[TK]D-Fenderrobin_z, if the box is called upon again, the whoe structure will be recreated
17:42.12robin_znice
17:42.16robin_zthanks
17:42.17[TK]D-Fenderrobin_z, without anything previously recorded of course
17:42.25robin_zbut of course
17:43.17[TK]D-Fenderrue_mohr, [defaul] only exists in your head and is so generically named as to be stupid.  WTH does [default] imply?  Is that the kind of security model you want to start with?
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17:44.07[TK]D-Fenderno sample file should ever use [default] as a context.... sets a bad precedent and people begin thinking that the name itself has some magical built-in meaning.
17:45.00robin_z[TK]D-Fender, people probably confuse it with the [general] section in soem files
17:45.10robin_zquite different
17:45.17[TK]D-Fenderrobin_z, That too.
17:50.33robin_zhmmm
17:50.50robin_zthis * doesnt seem to be looking for g711a files for sounds ...
17:50.57robin_zthey exist, it ignores them
17:51.04[TK]D-Fenderrobin_z, pastebin it...
17:51.19robin_zpastebin what?
17:51.59[TK]D-Fenderrobin_z, the CLI output showing its reaction to trying to play the files you're expecting and proof that they're really there, proper and accessable of course :)
17:52.20robin_z-rwxrwxrwx  1 root root  30758 2006-05-22 15:43 vm-rec-name.g711a
17:52.55[TK]D-Fenderrobin_z, Oh, btw.. thats not the proper extension for that files.  should be .alaw / .ulaw
17:52.58[TK]D-Fender:p
17:53.02robin_zahh
17:53.09[TK]D-FenderBIG PRINT
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17:53.33robin_zthats how they came out of the tar.gz from some site on the wiki
17:53.42robin_zhttp://www.enicomms.com/cutglassivr/
17:53.46robin_zthanks...
17:57.48rue_mohr[TK]D-Fender, yar, I think I wored out s,... is the start of everything
17:58.46rue_mohrI just need to work out how to seperate sets being picked up from incomming calls
17:58.51[TK]D-Fenderrue_mohr, Yeah, NOBODY gets it.
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17:59.24[TK]D-Fenderrue_mohr, seperate wht sets?
17:59.53rue_mohr:) bbl
18:06.22killownwhat hardware I need to learn to configure asterisk?
18:06.24robin_zhmmm
18:06.33kombimvanbaak: are you still there?
18:06.42mvanbaakkindda
18:06.46kombilol..
18:07.07robin_zIt seems to not play "the person at extewnsion .." although, at least it doesn not complain anymore about not being able to find the vm-*.alaw file ...
18:07.34kombimvanbaak: do you recall how you went about tftp and the cisco phone?
18:08.11kombigot atftpd running, but then..
18:09.03robin_zweird .. it just plays. beep.gsm and then records ...
18:09.34mvanbaakkombi: I put some lines in my dhcp server so the phone will know what the tftp server is
18:10.05kombimvanbaak: ohoh, don't even have dhcp here..
18:10.12|Tiger|is there any web-based system for adding user for asterisk? if the install have one i cant get the index
18:10.47kombimvanbaak: I'll get that done first..
18:11.37mvanbaakgood idea
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18:17.26[TK]D-Fenderkillown, hardware = your eyes
18:21.35robin_zok, so I used extenstion s5001 in my voicemail instead of 5000
18:22.41kombimvanbaak: got it running, could you maybe do a quick grep tftp /etc/dhcpd.conf?
18:23.41kombi..because I can only find a host specific entry in the man pages..
18:24.05mvanbaakhang on
18:25.30mvanbaakhttp://pastebin.three-dimensional.net/index.php?action=view&id=5275befa
18:25.38mvanbaakthere's my subnet in dhcpd
18:25.50mvanbaak192.168.2.4 is my tftp/asterisk box
18:25.52kombithanks!
18:26.20marc\cbaSNAP
18:26.44kombigot your own pastebin, that IS kewl!
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18:46.59_Raptor_hello, how can i deal in extensions.conf when my sip peer tells me "Busy here"?
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19:14.27kombimvanbaak: I am not quite sure the phone found the tftp, but anyway, what should be next?
19:23.01shido6Zzzz
19:23.11shido6busy here
19:23.35shido6hrmmm codec's match? do u have any extra settings in the peer name stanza in sip.conf?
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19:25.24robin_zso, whats a good codec to use for low bandwidth and reasnoable quality? alaw is fine internally, but the external offices are struggling with it over adsl
19:27.39shido6gsm
19:28.27robin_zwhats that one that digiium sell?
19:29.57robin_zG723?
19:30.56shido6g729
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19:42.09jangell_Anyone in here know anything about E&M Wink?  I can't get Asterisk to recognize that a call was answered on outbound calling....so asterisk hangs up after 5 minutes
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19:49.32mvanbaakheya Qwell_
19:51.32[hC]Does the meetme/conference stuff in 1.4 still transcode everything to slin?
19:51.44Qwell_yes, it has to
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19:52.41robin_z[hC], you can recompile meetme to use any native format,
19:53.33robin_zwe recompiled to use gsm I think, to save oodles of transcodings from our gsm based web clients
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19:53.46[hC]I'm trying to do entirely g729 installs, and would love to eliminate the need for slin in meetme.
19:53.54robin_zthis was 1.2.x, 1.4 may not be the same
19:54.01Qwell_[hC]: not possible..  you need slin for a bunch of the features
19:54.12robin_zQwell, such as?
19:54.13[hC]Qwell: what does slin provide exactly, that other codecs cannot?
19:54.26Qwell_dtmf stuff, talker detection
19:55.00Qwell_and...the most important - the mixing of all the channels
19:55.13mvanbaakindeed
19:55.16robin_zwe only have one talker in our rooms, and no dtmf foo, so perhaps its not an issue for us
19:55.24[hC]Ah, that would do it.
19:55.28[hC]I have more than one talker. :)
19:55.38mvanbaakyou will have to mod the code for that
19:55.53Qwell_well, you can turn off talk detection
19:55.56[hC]Well.. That kinda bites, the soekris net4801's dont do so well with transcoding meetme's. I guess ill have to host those offsite.
19:55.58robin_zit was a teeny weeny mod IIRC, just commented out an includem, put in another
19:56.19Qwell_but you can't turn off the audio mixing
19:56.22mvanbaakI'm used to mod code
19:56.27mvanbaakhad a good example today
19:56.35mvanbaakwanted to do dundi with skinny phones
19:56.47mvanbaak;)
19:56.49mvanbaaksorry Qwell_
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20:30.34lee_is_meAnyone know how to get into the phone's config on an Aastra phone?
20:32.44lee_is_menevermind...
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20:41.37mvanbaaklee_is_me: use my fireaxe ;)
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20:43.44lee_is_methat's a little on the hard side for me.  I'm more of a Rare Earth/Grand Funk Railroad kinda guy
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20:44.43poohbah431111Can anyone go over a few steps i took to compile asterisk and help me see if I overlooked anything, please?
20:45.16poohbah431111I am running Red Hat Enterprise Linux AS release 4 (Nahant Update 5)
20:45.35pipwerk* 1.4?
20:45.59pipwerk./configure; make install
20:46.27poohbah431111On VMware Server 1.0.3 build-44356, would that cause any problems with me not heaing audio when I try to dial the echo test?
20:46.54pipwerkfirewall?
20:46.59pipwerknat?
20:47.08poohbah431111Asterisk 1.2.18
20:47.19poohbah431111I'm on my lan trying this - the is no firewall.
20:47.27poohbah431111networking is set to bridged
20:47.32poohbah431111for vmware
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20:48.33poohbah431111I just insatlled and compiled asterisk-1.2.18 asterisk-addons-1.2.6
20:48.50poohbah431111oh and asterisk-sounds-1.2.1
20:49.15poohbah431111X-lite can conenct, and I can dial my local, X-lite line 2 rings, I answer but cant hear any sound
20:49.32poohbah431111I'm not sure if i put the right settigns in the correct files though.
20:49.59poohbah431111I followed the simple setup steps in AsteriskTFOT.pdf
20:50.18pipwerkhave you tried a simple speaking clock?
20:50.27poohbah431111no, how do I do that?
20:52.21pipwerkan exten with something like 'exten => 102,1,SayUnixTime(,,AdBY R)
20:52.22poohbah431111can I paste my sip.conf to a paste bin someplace?
20:52.50pipwerkif things ring, sip works, it's rtp that is causing trouble
20:52.59pipwerkin one direction or both
20:53.00poohbah431111Yes it rings
20:53.30poohbah431111sip.conf has my context in it, right?
20:53.39pipwerkis your client on windows or linux?
20:53.46poohbah431111Win32
20:53.53poohbah431111Xlite 3
20:53.55pipwerkwith firewall?
20:54.08poohbah431111Windows firewallis on yes
20:54.21poohbah431111But client was working with external sip orvider
20:54.23pipwerktry to disable the windows firewall, just as a test
20:54.26poohbah431111ok
20:54.36pipwerkok, that shouldn't help then
20:54.47pipwerkbut please try
20:56.17poohbah431111No does not seem to
20:56.59poohbah431111i have created simple sip.conf and extensions.conf
20:57.42poohbah431111extesnions.conf justhas [internal] and then exten =>100,1,dial (SIP/user1)
20:58.04poohbah431111And tehn a simolar entry for user2 but 200 for the local
20:58.12poohbah431111and then a line for 611 to echo
20:58.19poohbah431111Is that the right place for this stuff?
20:58.46pipwerkany extension context is the right place :)
20:58.52poohbah431111the pdf document seemed a bit unclear on that
20:59.08poohbah431111i dont understand sorry.:-(
20:59.15pipwerka context is exactly that, a context
20:59.31poohbah431111if i am just calling on my lan from soft phone to soft phone i need 2 extensions?
20:59.53poohbah431111and these go in /etc/asterisk/extensions.conf?
21:00.03pipwerkcorrect
21:00.12poohbah431111ok
21:01.12poohbah431111and my /etc/asterisk/sip.conf contains [general]
21:01.22poohbah431111externip=x.x.x.x
21:01.29poohbah431111context=default
21:01.36poohbah431111srvlookup=yes
21:01.38pipwerkbetter paste it to pastebin.ca
21:01.43poohbah431111ok
21:01.48poohbah431111how can I do that?
21:02.03john-eman0ni have a vitelity account and sip client idefisk and it registers but i cannot set callerid via idefisk anyone have any ideas?
21:02.28poohbah431111join pastebin.ca?
21:02.36john-eman0nwhat's that?
21:02.58poohbah431111Sorry im using ircII on BSD box as I dont have a win32 IRC client and im a bit confused. :-)
21:03.16poohbah431111How do i pastre to the pastebin?
21:03.18pipwerkpoohbah431111: visit www.pastbin.ca, paste in the paste window and gimme the url it returns
21:03.28pipwerk+e
21:03.31poohbah431111ok
21:03.42robin_zand shorten your username
21:03.59pipwerkrobin_z: tab completion :)
21:04.12robin_zit just makes it look such a mess
21:04.43poohbah431111http://www.pastebin.ca/499055
21:05.14poohbah431111ya i tried but forgot my password for the short version so could not register.
21:06.05pipwerkpoohbah431111: youe [user] entries are missing an username statement
21:06.24poohbah431111oh?
21:06.31poohbah431111would that cause no sound?
21:06.52pipwerkhttp://www.pastebin.ca/499060
21:07.27pipwerkI hope it won't make any difference, but you never know
21:07.28poohbah431111http://www.pastebin.ca/499063
21:07.39poohbah431111And thats all I have set
21:07.45robin_zand no rtp port range?
21:08.02poohbah431111no rtp
21:08.06poohbah431111where does that go?
21:08.18pipwerkrtp.conf
21:08.25poohbah431111its default
21:08.31robin_zk
21:08.40pipwerkand on the lan, without firewalls, it doesn't matter
21:08.46robin_zand you are in the same subnet as the * box with the phones?
21:08.59poohbah431111let me add teh username
21:09.08robin_zand you are in the same subnet as the * box with the phones?
21:10.11poohbah431111yes same subnet
21:10.37poohbah431111or doing a reload from the CLI
21:11.03poohbah431111i call 611 and it says calling....
21:11.06poohbah431111never connects
21:11.19pipwerknever connects? ok
21:11.22robin_zahh
21:11.33robin_zno ringing tone?
21:11.41poohbah431111no ring tone
21:11.44robin_zahh.
21:11.46robin_zok,
21:11.54poohbah431111if i call my local 100 it rings and i can answer
21:12.03poohbah431111but no sounds
21:12.15robin_zlocal 100? whats that?
21:12.21pipwerkhttp://www.pastebin.ca/499072
21:12.29poohbah431111i just defined a local for my self
21:12.33pipwerktry that for tou echotest
21:12.43poohbah431111looking...
21:13.06pipwerkfirst you need to 'answer' before * can echo ;-)
21:13.27robin_zyip
21:13.36poohbah431111<PROTECTED>
21:13.41poohbah431111And add that?
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21:14.39poohbah431111Do I need {internal] in extensions.conf?
21:14.46poohbah431111reload
21:14.47poohbah431111oosp
21:14.47pipwerkalso, with this dialplan curious as to whet dialing 612 would do
21:14.53fujinhey, can anyone tell me what record_in and record_out do?
21:15.29pipwerkpoohbah431111: yes, you need [internal] at the top of this all
21:15.56poohbah431111well its sorta working now
21:16.00poohbah431111I have sound
21:16.04poohbah431111I can hear myself
21:16.07pipwerkcool
21:16.15poohbah431111but I cant hear the echo test at 611
21:16.22poohbah431111i called 611 and it connected me to me?
21:16.26fujinI can't seem to get any audio at all unless I specify record_in=Adhoc
21:16.30pipwerkyes
21:16.35poohbah431111Oh thats what is does, but I thought it said teh time?
21:16.40pipwerkyou should hear yourself
21:16.47pipwerk612 will tell the time
21:17.35poohbah431111yes that worked
21:17.40pipwerkcool
21:17.41poohbah431111So what was wrong?
21:17.48poohbah431111just the username?
21:17.54pipwerkI guess so
21:18.11poohbah431111ok, so my friend is at his house - I have a local for him
21:18.19poohbah431111he can conenct but got no audio
21:18.26poohbah431111maybe teh same issue?
21:18.31pipwerkmaybe
21:18.39poohbah431111Im nated, so is he, so I set the locals to nat?
21:19.18poohbah431111And i give him my external IP and he enters that for the proxy and domain?
21:19.35poohbah431111but appends 5060 on  for the proxy?
21:20.09poohbah431111And I forward the ports from my router to my asterisk box?
21:21.00poohbah431111RTP 10000 to 20000 both tcp and udp? and sip 5060 to 5060 tcp and udp?
21:21.19pipwerkrtp is udp only
21:21.30pipwerksip for * is udp only too
21:22.10pipwerkand with rtp.conf you can set trpstart and rtpend to limit the rtp range
21:22.23pipwerkrtpstart
21:22.23robin_zand then forward all those ports
21:22.39robin_zand then disable any "sip helper applications" on your nat thing
21:22.47robin_zas they hinder rather than help
21:23.21poohbah431111i dont think there are any sip helpers
21:24.07poohbah431111trpstart and rtpend are default
21:26.34poohbah431111got my buddy on MSn and will try it again.
21:26.42poohbah431111Thannks for the help so far.
21:32.36poohbah431111not working
21:32.42poohbah431111messing a bit with the router now.
21:33.55pipwerkrtp and nat are _not_ friends
21:34.28poohbah431111Ok I put asterisk in a DMZ
21:34.46poohbah431111Now its on my side of the conenction so I can say NAT no?
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21:34.56pipwerkcorrect
21:35.42poohbah431111if hes is natted i say nat yes?
21:36.01poohbah431111if he moves his pc to a dmz I can say nat no?
21:36.48poohbah431111fell like im in a varizon comercial
21:36.51poohbah431111can ya here me now...
21:37.21pipwerkdon't know :)
21:38.19poohbah431111hmm.. he can dial 611 and hear himself
21:38.24poohbah431111612 he hears nothing
21:38.37poohbah431111we can establish a call and then nothing
21:40.18poohbah431111he may have some local lookback thing going.
21:41.03pipwerkhmmm, true, with reinvites you can have a working echo and no working talking clock
21:41.16poohbah431111reinvites?
21:42.17poohbah431111would reinvites yes change anything?
21:42.33pipwerkno
21:43.57poohbah431111ahhhh. frustrating....
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21:44.34pipwerkyes
21:44.50pipwerkI run * on my firewall at home
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22:01.37rue_mohrhaha
22:02.08rue_mohrI thought  recognized the number in  http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=9099 its written by my buddy, haha
22:03.00Nivexwhat's the recommendation for an ATA these days?
22:05.21[TK]D-FenderNivex, Besic use?  Linksys SPA-2102
22:05.25[TK]D-Fenderbasic*
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22:06.18Nivexah ok.  I was looking at the PAP2T-NA (no need for a router)
22:08.26[TK]D-FenderNivex, Same with the SPA-2102.  Except the PAP2 has a weaker processor, fewer calling features, not T.38 support.
22:08.47[TK]D-FenderNivex, I'd recommend spending a FEW extra bucks on the 2102 over the PAP2
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22:14.32rue_mohrhow do I distinguish an fxo call from a fxs call in extentions.conf?
22:15.16Hymieby what context they start in, I suppose
22:15.21HymieI've never had to worry about that
22:15.21crimethinkerdon't associate them with the same context?
22:15.28rue_mohrwell
22:15.49rue_mohrwhat I know so far is when I pick up the phone, asterisk starts at the first s line
22:16.04rue_mohrI presume its going to do the same thing for both types of lines right now
22:16.07rue_mohrI suspect
22:16.08Hymiein that context, for that line, yes
22:16.15Hymieread up on context
22:16.25anonymouz666[TK]D-Fender: Did you see the new version of PAP2? I think it's called PAP2 TA
22:16.28rue_mohr"exten => s,1,Dial,Zap/g2/96944569" group 2 in that line is part of the answer
22:20.13[TK]D-Fenderrue_extensions.conf has nothing to dow ith the techt he call comes in on
22:20.22[TK]D-Fenderrue_mohr, rather
22:20.27rue_mohrah
22:20.33rue_mohrok
22:20.44[TK]D-Fenderrue_mohr, you should configure your CHANNELS to go where you want them to.
22:20.56rue_mohrcause there needs to be something to distinguish the fxo and fxs calls
22:21.15[TK]D-Fenderrue_mohr, you should point each to an appropriate context based on what you wantit to do.
22:21.29[TK]D-Fenderrue_mohr, Again, these would be CONTEXTS
22:21.34rue_mohrI dont know how to pick out a channel yet
22:21.49rue_mohrhttp://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+Dialplan+Introduction
22:21.55rue_mohrthat dosn't seem to have helped
22:22.11[TK]D-Fenderrue_mohr, Your FXS & FXO channels all have a CONTEXT.  set them into DIFFERENT ones to differntiate between them
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22:23.16rue_mohryour implying that each call already comes in on a unique context, and the modded demo code I have is putting them togethor because its using a default context
22:24.08[TK]D-Fenderrue_mohr, Its not that each call comes intoa  different context, but rather that each port(/channel) you defined should go to its own.  "default" is a term you should do away with FAST.
22:24.18rue_mohrsignalling = fxo_ls
22:24.18rue_mohrchannel=>1-6
22:24.29[TK]D-Fenderrue_mohr, So you would make a context for your FXO ports to use, andother for your FXS, etc.
22:24.37rue_mohrI think thats from th wrong file
22:24.57[TK]D-Fenderrue_mohr, No, that is zapata.conf and exactly where you would set the channel for each of your ports
22:25.07[TK]D-Fenders/channel/context
22:25.09[TK]D-Fenders/channel/context/
22:25.12[TK]D-Fenderugh
22:25.16rue_mohr:)
22:25.29[TK]D-Fenderrue_mohr, No, that is zapata.conf and exactly where you would set the *context* for each of your ports
22:25.52rue_mohrhttp://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk+config+zapata.conf
22:26.00rue_mohrI see
22:26.29[TK]D-Fenderrue_mohr, "channel=>1-6" using "fxo_ls" tells me that you are sending incoming calls from 6 FXS (phone station) ports to a single context
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22:26.52[TK]D-Fenderrue_mohr, So those 6 phones have the same access as one another.
22:27.15rue_mohroh no, the hard thing, ohh man, the most difficult task I have to face again and again, I need to choose a name for the context...
22:28.17[TK]D-Fenderrue_mohr, What is the contect you hanve in mid give the channel using it access to?  That should help with naming it.
22:28.34rue_mohrok, I'll call them house and telus
22:28.50[TK]D-Fenderrue_mohr, I would think a little more abstract than that if I were you
22:29.01rue_mohrmaybe later
22:29.18rue_mohrfor now I'd like it to be clear
22:29.27rue_mohrand I only have 1 pbx :)
22:30.41[TK]D-Fenderrue_mohr, heres a thought : [full-access] . This context implies that any device (zap port, sip phone, etc) you point to it will be able to dial out of any resource in your system.
22:30.54[TK]D-Fenderrue_mohr, You could them make more restrictive ones that might limit LD, etc.
22:31.06[TK]D-Fenderrue_mohr, but that doesn't have to be now.
22:31.08rue_mohroo
22:31.43rue_mohrtill I'm used to it, think I'll go with what I have there, this is going to change a lot
22:32.11[TK]D-Fenderrue_mohr, You would them make another context like [in-from-zap-fxo] for your analog zaptel FXO channels to land in.  Here you would normally set up an IVR or have it ring a bunch of phones, etc.
22:32.22rue_mohrthat I like more
22:32.40killownanyone know a asterisk module for webmin?
22:32.41[TK]D-Fenderrue_mohr, These are 2 completely seperate things which your dialplan should have.
22:33.00[TK]D-Fenderkillown, Yes, but it SUCKS.  Less than useless for the most-part.
22:33.20rue_mohrfor now I'm kinda just hacking, my only immediate goal is for us to get an answering machine, but no hurry
22:33.38[TK]D-Fenderkillown, soryy but you're going to have to actually LEARN * or surrender yourself to one of those GUI's like FreePBX (after which we really won't want to hear from you)
22:33.56killownok
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22:34.18[TK]D-Fenderrue_mohr, Then why 6 FXS ports? :)  You'd only need 1 FXo and just plg it in-line with your phones and answer after 6 rigs or so.
22:34.39rue_mohrheh, I'm gonna do up the whole house
22:34.46rue_mohrwe have about 5 phones right now
22:35.05rue_mohrwe have 1 line, but another one comming in a few months
22:35.09Hymierue_mohr: SIP phones would be cooler, and just as cheap as all those zap interfaces
22:35.14rue_mohrhah
22:35.29rue_mohrunless your guru just handed you a channelbank and a t1 card
22:35.31rue_mohr:)
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22:35.44Hymieat home?!
22:35.48rue_mohrohyea
22:35.56rue_mohr}:]
22:35.59Hymiehow much are you paying for that, btw?
22:36.10Hymieor, nothing
22:36.13Hymiebecause you are a bastard?
22:36.14rue_mohrno, the T1 is to the channelbank
22:36.27Hymiea T1 is pricy here, for what you get
22:36.30rue_mohrno way I'm paying $1500/mo for 2 lines
22:36.52Hymietwo lines is $60 per month here ;P
22:36.54rue_mohrthe T1 goes to the channelbank, to the phones and lines
22:37.22rue_mohrtt-weasels? man I need more consoles
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22:37.35rue_mohrhow do you mean?
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22:38.08rue_mohrI'm putting a channelbank in the house, to operate the 2 lines and 6 phones with asterisk, so we can have al sorts of cool phone features
22:38.51rue_mohrok the contexts worked
22:38.57rue_mohr:) I'm happy
22:39.11rue_mohrnow that their seperate, I can start the real fun
22:39.17Hymieyes, and as I said, sip phones are cooler than analog phones and zap interfaces, and the same price
22:39.28rue_mohrbut this is all free
22:39.39Hymieis your T1 free?  that's what I don't get
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22:39.42rue_mohryes
22:39.48Hymiewhy?  do you work for satan?
22:39.49rue_mohrthe T1 is 2 feet long
22:39.53Hymiehow do you get free things in your house?
22:39.59rue_mohrit goes from the T1 card to the channelbank
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22:40.13rue_mohrI know people who work for places that get rid of things
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22:40.28Hymiehmm
22:40.34rue_mohrI dont have a T1 to hte house
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22:40.36Hymielike I said, satan people ;)
22:40.38rue_mohrthat would be insane
22:40.45Hymiechannel banks cost 5 BILLION dollars
22:40.51Hymiea country is starving somewhere
22:40.53rue_mohrno!
22:40.56rue_mohrebay!
22:40.59Hymiewhile you, rue_mohr, sit on a house of GOLD
22:41.01rue_mohrmainstreet 3624
22:41.02Hymiehow does that make you feel? ;)
22:41.15rue_mohrwell, its still half trailer
22:41.27rue_mohrand to me, that makes it cr**
22:41.31rue_mohrbut anyhow
22:41.39Hymieheh
22:41.40rue_mohrI got the place cause it was 1/2 acre
22:42.04rue_mohrignoring that fact it was hells 1/2 acre
22:42.17Hymiewell, let me know if you like the sound quality, zap cards suck donkey balls ;D
22:42.26Hymiechannel bank used might be ok
22:42.31rue_mohrits ok with this channelbank
22:42.40rue_mohrHymie, you can get a channelbank
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22:42.43rue_mohrfrom ebay
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22:42.53rue_mohrnot too expensive, maybe $60 or less
22:42.58rue_mohrthe T1 card is the killer
22:43.01Hymierue_mohr: yeah.. I'm thinking of it... do you know if it has built in echo cancellation?
22:43.09rue_mohryou should need it
22:43.13rue_mohrer sholdn't
22:43.25rue_mohrbut echocans aren't to bad on ebay either
22:43.27rue_mohrI have two
22:43.34rue_mohrdont think I'll need them
22:43.53rue_mohrk, I
22:44.01rue_mohrm gonna go do yardwork for a while
22:44.19rue_mohrI got a new angle grinder and I'm dying to try it out
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22:44.47zoayo yo
22:44.51psi0ni've been bashing my brains out trying to figure out why cell phones get messed up MoH and ringing tones when calling my PBX
22:44.58Hymieankle grinder!
22:45.00Hymiewtf!
22:45.13JTHymie: he said angle grinder, not ankle grinder
22:45.18JTHymie: need new glasses? :)
22:45.38psi0nlol
22:46.01[AST_LANTAzoa]anybody else arrived alrady
22:46.02[AST_LANTAzoa]?
22:46.07JT[AST_LANTAzoa]: ?
22:46.16[AST_LANTAzoa]astricon devcon @ atlanta
22:46.22Qwellastlanta...nice
22:46.49[AST_LANTAzoa]qwell you here yet ?
22:46.51Qwell[AST_LANTAzoa]: the Digium folks arrive tomorrow
22:47.10[AST_LANTAzoa]do you know of anyone who comes early ?
22:47.15[AST_LANTAzoa]i think olle should be around
22:52.03[AST_LANTAzoa]omg
22:52.10[AST_LANTAzoa]this is going to be hell
22:52.19[AST_LANTAzoa]my collegue has a little snoring problem
22:52.26[AST_LANTAzoa]im now with earplugs
22:52.31[AST_LANTAzoa]active noise cancelling headsets
22:52.37[AST_LANTAzoa]and music
22:52.41[AST_LANTAzoa]and i can still hear him
22:52.43[AST_LANTAzoa]omfg
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22:55.27JT[AST_LANTAzoa]: please /join #omg
22:55.30JT:P
22:56.33kusznirHi all:  I've got some protocall-related questions.  I've been using asterisk with IAX to a few providers, but recently tried to add SIP.  My phone calls via SIP sound like garbage (I get a second or two that is almost clear, then "mr. roboto".  The same call to the same provider using IAX2 works great, though.
22:56.49JTprococall? ;)
22:57.11kusznirSorry...I'm really bad at spelling; I'll work on that.
22:57.11JTmaybe it's using a bad codec
22:57.19kusznirI'm using ulaw for both calls.
22:57.38JTis the sip call definitely negotiating ulaw?
22:57.50kusznirYep..
22:58.03kusznirWatched the call progress on asterisk.
22:58.16JTwith sip debug?
22:58.22kusznir(and if my device was transcoding, the cpu power consumed would be noticable)
22:58.55kusznirI was doing verbose 4 or 5, and I see "attempting native bridge", and my phone (granstream gxp2000) shows ulaw.
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22:59.05JTperhaps you have some sort of packet shaping scheme happening on RTP ports between you and your ITSP
22:59.37JTso you didn't actually debug the sip call to the provider? the leg to the grandstream could be a different codec
23:00.25kusznirI run a router (openwrt), and I've tried both with qos on (and trying to help rtp) and qos off, so it would be the provider.  Of course, they disavow doing any such thing....
23:00.54JTtried running a softphone direct to the provider?
23:01.09kusznirI didn't actually debug.  But asterisk is running on my OpenWRT, and I don't have any trancoding support available on it.  I can do a sip debug, though.
23:01.28kusznirOh, I've also used a budget tone direct to a provider, and had the same issue.
23:01.40JTisn't that saying something? :)
23:01.42kusznirulaw was the preferred codec on the HT config.
23:01.49JTalthought a budget tone is a poor testing tiool
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23:02.28kusznirYea, I knew the problem wasn't with asterisk, I was just trying to figure out what the problem could be; e.g., does IAX use less bandwidth, or is more tolerant of jitter, etc.
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23:02.52kusznirYea...It wasn't really used directly as a testing tool, it was more like the first one to discover the problem :)
23:03.12*** join/#asterisk cspot (i=cspot@ip68-1-63-100.pn.at.cox.net)
23:03.14kusznir(until that, I ran only IAX out of my network)
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23:04.14kusznirWell, if anyone here is considering using ClearWire as an ISP and wants to do any VoIP over it, find another provider....
23:04.28kusznirThanks for your help JT.
23:04.34JTtry xlite
23:04.41JTbudget tones are bad phones
23:05.20kusznirIs the gxp2000 considered "reasonable"?
23:05.25JTiax2 uses a single udp port for signalling and media, sip uses a port for signalling, and chooses 2 ports from a range of udp ports for media over rtp
23:05.28JTno
23:05.30JT~gs
23:05.31jbotGrandSuck phones & gateways are cheap junk which should be avoided with extreme prejudice.
23:05.41JT~phones
23:05.43jboti guess phones is http://bani.anime.net/phones/.  While personal preference will dictate which phone works best for you, general consensus on a rough order of quality and suggestibility is as follows:  Polycom (any), Aastra 480i, Aastra 5i Series, Cisco 7940+, Linksys SPA-9XX, Snom, and finally everything else.  Do not consider Grandstream phones.  Ever.
23:06.32fujinsome idio chose Mitel phones here
23:06.35fujinthey're terrible so far ;|
23:07.53JTyeah?
23:07.57[TK]D-Fenderfujin, I've heard somre really good things about a number of Mitel models, but hav no personal experience.  They seem pricey and the brand makes me nervous though.
23:08.01JTheard someone saying they were good
23:08.05JTbut not many people use them
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23:09.22RypPnI'm using an atcom 520 here, sounds pretty good
23:09.27RypPn530*
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23:11.18[TK]D-Fenderatcom = *shudder*.  PA166(8) = POS.
23:14.26RypPnhmm, this one has Infineon chipset, is that different?
23:16.44fujino0oh, the mitel just got surprisingly better
23:16.49fujinso, does anyone know about record_in/out?
23:17.53fujinbasically the system I've inherited requries record_in=Adhoc, record_out=Adhoc to get anything to work - I can't find any docs on it
23:17.57fujinit's not in tfot
23:17.59fujin~record_in
23:18.50psi0ndoes anyone know if the ringtone on asterisk is a soundfile or if it is generated?
23:19.49JTgenerated by a tone generator
23:20.05psi0nthanks
23:21.37RypPnanyone tried the utstarcom f3000 at all? I'd appreciate some feedback before I buy as it's quite expensive.
23:21.56RypPnreviews on the net have been a bit mixed
23:22.03JTwireless?
23:22.09RypPnyeah, its wifi
23:22.10JTall wifi voip phones suck
23:22.13JTto varying degrees
23:22.33remmowhy use wifi voip when one can use a wireless DECT handset ?
23:23.36RypPncan you give me a couple of examples please? so I can check them out
23:24.06[TK]D-FenderRypPn,
23:24.09[TK]D-Fender~wifisip
23:24.11jbotWi-Fi SIP phones suck.  All of them.  HARD.  Some only slightly less than others...
23:24.47RypPnk, thats saved me 140 quid then
23:24.59RypPncheers :)
23:25.07[TK]D-Fenderfujin, Go read up on "monitor", and features.conf on the WIKI for recording.
23:25.10[TK]D-Fender~wikis
23:25.13jboti guess wikis is http://www.voip-info.org
23:25.25psi0nwhen i call in to my pbx, i get an IVR, which forwards me to the extension of my choice. but when im calling in using a cell phone, when it forwards me i hear the first ringtone chopped into two bits, then complete silence.
23:25.39JTRypPn: better off with a dect phone or similar
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23:25.58RypPncan you recommend any? or are they all much the same?
23:26.02kusznirJT, remmo: what is a dECT phone?
23:26.20JTa cordless phone complying with the dect standard
23:26.20kusznir~dect
23:26.22jbotDigital European Cordless Telecommunications (telecommunication) [source: V.E.R.A.]
23:26.45kusznirSo is that the same as a regular cordless phone in the US?
23:26.45JTthere are some sip phones that have dect handset options, otherwise just connect them with an fxs port
23:27.08JTa regular cordless phone... that is dect compliant
23:27.17remmocorrect.
23:27.18JTit specifies a digital transmission standard
23:27.34JTi never recommend old shitty analogue modulation cordless phones
23:27.37JTno over the air security
23:27.43remmoJT: do you know if DECT is secure?
23:27.53JTrelatively
23:27.57kusznirDoes the DECT compliance give me the ability to use some form of AP or repeater network to cover entire buildings and allow a bunch of them to run in the same space?
23:28.04JTi wouldn't use it for national secrets
23:28.29JTyes, commercial dect phones can have multiple base stations and do handover i believe
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23:28.44fujinI've got two basestations in my house, DECT
23:28.50JTyou can get dect options for proprietary pbxes
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23:36.55[hC]yeah, they do seamless handoff
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23:37.45kombibeen on this for hours now, just can't get this 7941 to work, what might be the pitfall?
23:38.06kombiis dhcp needed?
23:38.21[hC]where are you stuck?
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23:39.49kombihc: quite the beginning actually, phone plugged in, skinny.conf tweaked but the phone just show either "configuring CM-List" or "Registering"
23:40.08kombi..and never gets anywhere
23:41.31[hC]kombi: you'll want to use SIP firmware.
23:41.41[hC]I dont have a copy, and its not a free download unfortunately
23:41.51[hC]but if you search google or find someone maybe they can give you a copy
23:42.00[hC]Anyone know if the polycom phones support LLDP?
23:42.02kombi[hC] so I hear..
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23:42.56kombi[hC]: would .. maybe even you have one?
23:43.13kombi[hC]: googled my eyes out already..
23:44.09[hC]kombi: i do, but not here... unfortunately... sorry
23:44.29kombi[hC]: no problem.. sigh..
23:44.31b1shop<-- moving office in a month and i wanted to test asterisk to replace my nortel pbx.  whats the simplest way to run some tests?  trixbox, asterisk now?
23:44.45b1shopi am assuming that standard modems do not work.
23:45.52[TK]D-Fenderb1shop, What's to "test"?  *'s capabilities are well known.  What is it you wish to know to help you make up your mind?
23:46.45b1shop[TK]D-Fender: i've never used it and i am no phone guru.  want to replace the nortel system cause i'm sick of paying some dude $100/hr to add an extension or make a change
23:47.37JTi think he wants to learn
23:47.40b1shop[TK]D-Fender: it'd be nice if i could set up a test on my fax line (only line not behind the pbx) and run some tests, create IVR prompts, test vm-->email etc
23:48.44b1shopi'd hate to buy 10 phones and a card and run into issues.
23:49.12[TK]D-Fenderb1shop, well in short, IVR's, VM (to e-mail, tec), dialplans, queues, all that "work"'s and you just need to see if it fits your budget and time frame (for learning).
23:49.57[TK]D-Fenderb1shop, Getting good hardware is the key to avoiding issues.  No cheap card you use in tests will make you happy in production and would likely jsut dissapoint you in testing whereas the proper product wouldn't
23:50.05[TK]D-Fenderb1shop, Bit of a catch-22
23:50.08b1shopplus.  what's the best distro.  start from a base centos (or similiar distro) and build it out or use one of the other distros
23:50.14[hC]b1shop: I am really happy with the Sangoma A200d cards
23:50.25[hC]they expand up to 24 channels, too
23:50.31[hC]er
23:50.34[hC]16
23:50.39[TK]D-Fenderb1shop, best distr is whichever you're most comfortable administering where you can satisfy *'s pagage dependencies.
23:50.50JT[hC]: 24
23:51.07b1shop[TK]D-Fender: understood..  if i went full scale i would of course buy good hardware..  i'm more interested in testing out the administration
23:51.12[TK]D-Fenderb1shop, I personally use CentOS & Slackware in my installs and both work wonderfully straight out.
23:51.13[hC]JT: I thought it only did 3 extra daughterboards?
23:51.36JT[hC]: that's 24 chans, is it not?
23:51.45[hC]JT: at 4 lines per card, 4 cards total. 4x4 = 16
23:51.51[TK]D-Fenderb1shop, I am presuming you know nothing about * setup so far.  The first hurdle is the learning curve.  What is your deadline?
23:52.10b1shop[TK]D-Fender: moving in about a month!  ;-)
23:52.33Swat2b1shop: theres a good document called "trixbox without tears" that might be able to help you
23:52.42Swat2it's a little outdated
23:52.46Swat2but covers most things
23:52.51[hC]theres a new one out for 2.x i saw..
23:52.51[TK]D-Fenderb1shop, How many phones /  lines in your projected setup?
23:52.54JTAs you need them, additional REMORA. cards can be added to the base four-port A200 card. A single PCI or PCI Express slot hosts connection for up to 24 ports and ensures common synchronous clocking for all channels.
23:52.55b1shopgoogleing now
23:52.56burt75someone know something in chan_cellphone or chan_mobile ?
23:53.04burt75I cant pair BT phone
23:53.07[hC]I find it pretty amusing that trixbox is created to be "Asterisk with out tears" then someone had to go make a "trixbox without tears"
23:53.29b1shop[TK]D-Fender: 8-10 phone + reception and 5 lines + fax i think would be enough to get us started
23:53.36JT[hC]: so it is expandable to 24 ports
23:53.42Swat2[hC] irony ;)
23:53.42JTthe A400 is up to 48
23:53.52[hC]JT: where am i losing my mind then... there must be the ability to add more than 3 remora cards
23:54.06[hC]JT: it must take up to 7 additional
23:54.10JT[hC]: max config of 6 cards
23:54.21JT24/6=4
23:54.27[hC]yeah
23:54.30[hC]ok
23:54.39[hC]thought it only took up to 3 remora's
23:54.40b1shop[TK]D-Fender: i'm really just looking for a small scale test now.  soft phone or cheap card to do some sandboxing
23:54.41[hC]nevermind! :)
23:54.44JT:)
23:54.46[TK]D-Fenderb1shop, that in mind, getting * setup and ready is NOT a big issue.  Its that you'll either spend a good long while seriously concentrating on learning *, or pay a consultant to set up your initial system, pay for some basic training, and then pick up your education on your own after tha.
23:55.00Swat2b1shop: try a TDM400P, i personally have had no troubles
23:55.11[TK]D-Fenderb1shop, No need ofr any hardware jsut to get to learn *.  *nix box to install on, and a softphone will do.
23:55.16[hC]I have :( however, that was a year ago
23:55.35[hC]Have any of you guys had experience installing on Dell hardware?
23:55.47b1shop[TK]D-Fender: i've allocated a P4 3ghz, 1GB ram for testing.  that should be plenty
23:55.47JTyes
23:55.53[hC]I have an interesting amount of quality issues even w/ sangoma on dell hardware, and im trying to figure out if its the dell's fault.
23:55.55[TK]D-Fenderb1shop, indeed plenty
23:56.08Swat2Anyone know how to force tha callerid Name to be the same as the callerid number?
23:56.15[TK]D-Fender[hC], where I presume an analog phone right on the line sounds perfect?
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23:56.23[hC][TK]D-Fender: yep.
23:56.26b1shop[TK]D-Fender: standard modem cards do not work correct?  basically anything will do for a small test
23:56.35[hC][TK]D-Fender: things like tromboning, echo, dropped calls, calls that dont get answered...
23:56.40[TK]D-FenderSwat2, Set(CALLERID(name)=${CALLERID(num)})
23:56.43[hC]staticy, etc..
23:56.48[hC]seems totally random.
23:56.57kusznirb1shop: nope, most modem cards won't work, and the few that are compatable have a lot of issues.
23:57.03lee_is_meHey these Aastra's are pretty nice...
23:57.06Swat2[TK]D-Fender: i'm having troubles finding where i should put that...
23:57.06[hC]I am actually wondering if the onboard nic has something to do with it, ive read a bunch of bad forum posts on the onboard dell broadcom nic.
23:57.13[TK]D-Fender[hC], OUCH.  Tried different wanpipe / zaptel revisions?  What card exactly?
23:57.28[TK]D-Fender[hC], Also is it sharing an interrupt?
23:57.32[hC][TK]D-Fender:  The a200d.  Tried multiple asterisk/wanpipe/zaptel over the past year
23:57.39[hC][TK]D-Fender:  really hard to tell, cause the problems seem to come and go.
23:57.50[TK]D-Fender[hC], EEK
23:57.52[hC][TK]D-Fender: I also have 3 boxes that like to kernel panic every 2 weeks because of the sangoma and no idea why.
23:58.06[hC][TK]D-Fender: yeah, analog installs are my worst nightmare. they never seem to go smooth, when you'd expect they would.
23:58.09[TK]D-Fender[hC], Ok, go work it out with their tech support....
23:58.24[TK]D-Fender[hC], You could jsut have a flakey card...
23:58.32[hC][TK]D-Fender: yup.  Ive seen this in about 6 installs now.
23:58.37[hC]all different hardware.
23:58.43[hC]other than they are running in a dell.
23:58.43kusznirI'd recommend testing in isolation in the beginning, then possibly adding an external IP-based provider (asterlink is a good deal for a testing setup; I also use vitelity.net
23:59.06[hC][TK]D-Fender: probably gonna have to gather a ton of data and have a serious talk w/ sangoma.
23:59.07kusznirIts a lot cheaper and 95% of the learning will work well with them and some soft phones.
23:59.13lee_is_me[hC]: I had problems with a Dell onboard nic recently, not sure if it was broadcom
23:59.24[hC]lee_is_me: what was the symptom?

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