irclog2html for #asterisk on 20070211

`00:00.18`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`blitzrage : It might be a thought, but I'm too Linux-Challenged to profit from it....`
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`00:00.24`	`drako`	`how Can I stop asterisk for look at res_mysql or res_odbc`
`00:00.42`	`ttuttle`	`Hmm.`
`00:00.43`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`drako : "noload => [modulename]" in modules.conf`
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`00:00.54`	`ttuttle`	`My older laptop uses a SmartLink modem, which would actually be quite easy to support.`
`00:01.07`	`blitzrage`	`[TK]D-Fender: yah, but TAUG is running a mini-Asterisk conference inside Linuxworld -- so it'd be worth it`
`00:01.16`	`ttuttle`	`There is an "off-hook" switch in the Alsa mixer, and you can use it just like a sound card.`
`00:01.20`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ttuttle : You have our permission to begin coding it yourself.`
`00:01.34`	`denon`	`or you could just buy a real card`
`00:01.42`	`denon`	`or usb device, for laptop`
`00:01.51`	`ttuttle`	`denon: Are there cheap USB devices?`
`00:01.59`	`denon`	`define cheap`
`00:02.05`	`denon`	`cheaper than a nortel module, yeah`
`00:02.10`	`ttuttle`	`denon: less than $40, as defined before?`
`00:02.31`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ttuttle : Barring your disdain at the figure you're about to receive there ARE some cheap users on the other hand....`
`00:03.09`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ttuttle : Whats your take on FXS while we're at it?`
`00:03.19`	`ttuttle`	`[TK]D-Fender: What do you mean, what's my take?`
`00:03.55`	`ttuttle`	`[TK]D-Fender: I don't particularly need it, as I would have to convince my family to switch to VoIP for our real phone line, but it's always nice to have an FXS port "for future expansion".`
`00:04.04`	`ttuttle`	`[TK]D-Fender: FXO would be most useful though.`
`00:04.06`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ttuttle : Well you think that 15$ for a supported X100P is bad, so what about the cost of FXS ports, and what alternatives are you promoting?`
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`00:04.58`	`ttuttle`	`[TK]D-Fender: Argh. It's not that having to buy one is bad. It's that there's a pretty standard voice command set http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hayes_command_set#Voice_command_set and Asterisk removed support for it.`
`00:05.14`	`ttuttle`	`[TK]D-Fender: /me thinks it would be cool if someone could build a cheap FXS.`
`00:05.42`	`ttuttle`	`But the reality is, most people who would pick up Asterisk and tinker with it would first try having it handle their incoming calls and sending them to a softphone.`
`00:06.10`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ttuttle : and since you seem to be the judge of what the market value (which is based on demographics) should be, what IS that value of FXS in your mind?`
`00:06.59`	`ttuttle`	`[TK]D-Fender: Hmm. It'd be cool if there was a cheap one around $30-$40. I guess there are ATA's for about $80-ish right now, which do both, so that's getting there.`
`00:07.15`	`ttuttle`	`[TK]D-Fender: I think $50 for a good FXO/FXS device would be a sweet spot.`
`00:07.22`	`ttuttle`	`[TK]D-Fender: But the volume isn't enough for prices to be that low.`
`00:07.24`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ttuttle : cool != reasonable.`
`00:07.31`	`ttuttle`	`[TK]D-Fender: I know.`
`00:07.42`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ttuttle : Congratulations, you are coming around....`
`00:08.05`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ttuttle : Time to acknoledge reality and move on...`
`00:08.23`	`ttuttle`	`18:56 * ttuttle admits defeat.`
`00:08.54`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ttuttle : And then I asked you on the FXS side :)`
`00:09.00`	`ttuttle`	`[TK]D-Fender: Oh, yeah.`
`00:09.08`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ttuttle : I'm just ensuring the "completeness" of your defeat :)`
`00:09.20`	`ttuttle`	`[TK]D-Fender: /me has been crushed, completely.`
`00:10.00`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`"Lord, give me the strength to change the things I cannot accept, and the wisdom to accept the things I cannot change"`
`00:11.07`	`ttuttle`	`[TK]D-Fender: lol`
`00:13.39`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ttuttle : I'm still waiting for the flying cars, robot maids, meal-in-a-pills, and dolphin-friendly tuna I've been promised all these years....`
`00:13.54`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`....oh wait.. scratch the latter off my list...`
`00:14.02`	`denon`	`yum.. dolphins`
`00:14.02`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`one down...`
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`00:14.10`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`NEXT!!@!@!@ (c) BKW`
`00:15.00`	`denon`	`(r)(c) 2007`
`00:15.03`	`denon`	`(tm)`
`00:15.06`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`denon : I hear they taste somewhere between a bald eagle & a Canada goose :)`
`00:15.26`	`denon`	`ooh, canadian goose is tasty .. pan fried with a little paprkia`
`00:15.31`	`denon`	`paprika`
`00:15.37`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`mmmmm`
`00:15.55`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`one of my favourite spices. the base of curry & prepared mustard....`
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`00:16.19`	`denon`	`with a side of dolphin under glass`
`00:16.57`	`denon`	`all sprayed with aerosol butter`
`00:17.29`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`and served in a non-bio-degradeable container :)`
`00:17.46`	`denon`	`and plastic silverware`
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`00:18.32`	`denon`	`uh oh, mog's here`
`00:18.37`	`denon`	`ooh, gone`
`00:18.42`	`denon`	`phew`
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`00:22.01`	`roguebug`	`hi`
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`00:23.57`	`roguebug`	`i'd like the user to type a 3 or 4 digit pin (that my context gets as a variable via SetVar), and jump to different priorities depending on whether it was correctly entered.`
`00:24.01`	`roguebug`	`how do i do that?`
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`00:26.52`	`ttuttle`	`[TK]D-Fender: So do you know of a USB device that's "reasonably priced" by your standards?`
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`00:28.06`	`ttuttle`	`[TK]D-Fender: Or any at all?`
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`00:29.54`	`Grnd-Wire`	`[TK]D-Fender: hey there! Are you familiar with Aastra phones at all, or are you strictly Polycom?`
`00:29.58`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ttuttle : Nope. The only real USB option for ANYTHING out there is the Astribank, and its more feature/port packed.`
`00:30.09`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ttuttle : Welcome to the wonderful world of ATA's.`
`00:30.38`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Grnd-Wire : I am somewhat familiar with the 480i`
`00:31.24`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Grnd-Wire : And I have owned plenty of Linksys gear. So I am not "stricty" Polycom, just a strong proponent of...`
`00:31.28`	`ttuttle`	`[TK]D-Fender: Hmm, that's strange. Wouldn't USB adapters be more of a consumer (i.e., low port count) item, and PCI cards be more of an enterprise thing?`
`00:31.43`	`ttuttle`	`[TK]D-Fender: Do you have any opinion of the SPA-3000?`
`00:32.30`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ttuttle : Voip conversion of FXO/FXS isn't a consumer thing at all! Since when do "consumers" have PBX's in their homes?`
`00:32.40`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ttuttle : Works jsut fine. I've owned one.`
`00:32.55`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ttuttle : the closest thing to what you're hoping to find.`
`00:33.22`	`ttuttle`	`[TK]D-Fender: A 1 FXS/1 FXO device is much more common for consumers than something with 8 ports.`
`00:33.33`	`Grnd-Wire`	`[TK]D-Fender: hmm - That should work.. I am doing my first deployment of 10 phones (9331i's), and I'm trying to make use of 802.1q VLANs.. I'm having a serious issue with the passthrough port passing traffic into the network. Are you at all familiar with this type of setup, so you can validate my logic?`
`00:33.52`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ttuttle : Petty semantics at best.... Consumer != PBX user.`
`00:33.59`	`ttuttle`	`[TK]D-Fender: True.`
`00:34.28`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Grnd-Wire : No experiens with VLAN's at all, sorry`
`00:34.52`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ask;djhkjhsdf`
`00:34.55`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`can't type today.`
`00:35.11`	`Grnd-Wire`	`[TK]D-Fender: ack! ok.. Do you know of anyone else that hangs out in the channel that might be a good resource? I'll even buy coffee.. :P`
`00:35.22`	`ttuttle`	`[TK]D-Fender: lol, Astribank = really expensive.`
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`00:36.40`	`Qwell`	`there once was a usb fxs ATA`
`00:36.41`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ttuttle : Astribank = reasonably priced for what it does.`
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`00:36.44`	`*** mode/#asterisk [+o mog] by ChanServ`
`00:36.46`	`Qwell`	`we no longer talk about it though`
`00:36.49`	`Qwell`	`right mog?`
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`00:37.18`	`ttuttle`	`Qwell: ?`
`00:37.45`	`mog`	`lol`
`00:37.47`	`mog`	`of course`
`00:38.00`	`Qwell`	`I think he knows exactly what I'm talking about too :P`
`00:38.23`	`ttuttle`	`Qwell: Will you tell me, or is it a secret?`
`00:38.35`	`Qwell`	`it doesn't exist`
`00:38.38`	`ttuttle`	`Qwell: Oh.`
`00:38.42`	`ttuttle`	`Qwell: So what was it?`
`00:38.54`	`Qwell`	`just what I said`
`00:39.05`	`Grnd-Wire`	`[TK]D-Fender: oh my god.. I've never heard of the Astribank before.. Is that a product you recommend? It looks really cool (and small!) on Xorcom's site`
`00:39.06`	`ttuttle`	`Qwell: Never mind.`
`00:39.27`	`ttuttle`	`What's the cheapest ATA with one FXO and one FXS port? Is it the Sipura SPA-3000?`
`00:39.36`	`Grnd-Wire`	`[TK]D-Fender: At $61 per port, that's cheaper than Digium's/Rhino's $96 per port..`
`00:40.04`	`Qwell`	`Grnd-Wire: USB turns some people off though`
`00:40.17`	`Qwell`	`not to rag on Xorcom.. I'm sure their stuff is great`
`00:40.25`	`Grnd-Wire`	`ttuttle: Grandstream has one, but there are those who would recommend staying AWAY from Grandstream.`
`00:40.31`	`ttuttle`	`Grnd-Wire: Oh?`
`00:40.36`	`ttuttle`	`Grnd-Wire: Why?`
`00:40.51`	`Grnd-Wire`	`ttuttle: hmm - Quality.. There is a reason why it doesn't cost as much as other stuff..`
`00:40.56`	`Qwell`	`ttuttle: let's put it this way...`
`00:41.06`	`Qwell`	`no chinese company is ever going to make cheap clones of grandstream`
`00:41.21`	`ttuttle`	`Qwell: Ah, so they're the cheap clone ;-)`
`00:41.25`	`Grnd-Wire`	`ttuttle: Go to www.discountvoipoutlet.com and search around - find your own thing..`
`00:41.31`	`Qwell`	`technically, no, but yes :P`
`00:41.34`	`Grnd-Wire`	`Qwell: HAHAHA.. That was worth a beer..`
`00:42.18`	`ttuttle`	`Grnd-Wire: It's not much cheaper than the SPA-3000.`
`00:42.33`	`Qwell`	`ttuttle: exactly`
`00:42.39`	`Grnd-Wire`	`Qwell: You know, I don't mind the fact it's USB - because that means I can attach like 6-8 of those devices, presuming their drivers don't have limits on that.. :D`
`00:42.50`	`ttuttle`	`Qwell: And I bet the SPA-3000 is much more solid.`
`00:42.52`	`Qwell`	`Grnd-Wire: I don't know...`
`00:42.54`	`Qwell`	`ttuttle: yes`
`00:42.59`	`Grnd-Wire`	`Qwell: I am building stuff into 1U chassis, and it's really had to fit T1 boards or even FXO boards into cases that small..`
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`00:43.04`	`Qwell`	`Grnd-Wire: I'm sure if tzafrir was around, he'd pipe in`
`00:43.19`	`Grnd-Wire`	`Qwell: Is he the anti-USB one? :P`
`00:43.25`	`Qwell`	`no, he works for xorcom`
`00:43.30`	`Qwell`	`or something`
`00:43.48`	`Grnd-Wire`	`ohhh! That's cool..`
`00:44.16`	`Qwell`	`Grnd-Wire: as for 1U, you should be able to fit at least a single span in there`
`00:44.20`	`anothy_x`	`i realize this is only tangentially on topic, but i'm trying to get a linksys rt31p2, formerly from vonage, connected to an asterisk, and am having trouble getting the thing unlocked. anyone know about such things?`
`00:44.26`	`Qwell`	`I'm pretty sure there are low-profile brackets available for it`
`00:45.07`	`Grnd-Wire`	`Qwell: yeah, but not alot of my current customers use T-1's.. and channel banks aren't cost effective until you hit the 12-24 line level.. Then you either need to switch over, or you just keep doing the old thing, and using a channel bank.`
`00:45.35`	`Qwell`	`well, IMO using a channel bank for FXO is silly`
`00:45.46`	`Qwell`	`T1 can often be less expensive than 8 analog lines`
`00:46.02`	`Grnd-Wire`	`I would agree with you - except if you're doing a drop-in replacement, then it may be the only way to go..`
`00:46.05`	`Qwell`	`(of course, in some areas, I hear that 24 analog lines are cheaper than a T1, but I digress)`
`00:46.15`	`ttuttle`	`Qwell: Out of curiosity, what's an average price for an analog line for businesses? I think (residentially) I pay $14.`
`00:46.27`	`Qwell`	`ttuttle: $50-100 I'd imagine`
`00:46.33`	`ttuttle`	`Qwell: Jeez, that's expensive.`
`00:46.40`	`Grnd-Wire`	`Qwell: In this area, a business line is about $33 after taxes..`
`00:46.54`	`Qwell`	`Grnd-Wire: taxes/fees?`
`00:46.56`	`ttuttle`	`Qwell: How much do the calls cost on top of that?`
`00:47.06`	`Qwell`	`ttuttle: 2c/min is always a fair estimate`
`00:47.07`	`Grnd-Wire`	`Qwell: Yeah, all the universal access crap, etc..`
`00:47.25`	`Qwell`	`well, for analog, probably more`
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`00:55.43`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ttuttle : Or you can forego POTS altogether and terminate on SIP for < .01/min WITHOUT investment.`
`00:59.18`	`ttuttle`	`[TK]D-Fender: I have Vitelity SIP for $0.0139/min out and $0.011/min in.`
`01:00.05`	`ttuttle`	`[TK]D-Fender: Have you had any experience with Vitelity? Do you know any other providers in that price range (less than $0.02/min) that are better?`
`01:02.04`	`ttuttle`	`How do I tell asterisk to use extensions.ael but not extensions.conf?`
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`01:04.19`	`ttuttle`	`never mind`
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`01:06.31`	`sevard`	`Who knows anything about IRC + telnet, I can't get quit messages to work, QUIT :Goodbye World! does not work`
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`01:06.49`	`ttuttle`	`sevard: Google "irc rfc".`
`01:06.58`	`sevard`	`That's the syntax in the rfc`
`01:07.15`	`ttuttle`	`sevard: Hmm.`
`01:07.29`	`sevard`	`I've tried 3 different networks, no dice`
`01:07.54`	`drako`	`Ok here i go again, how I can stop asterisk to ask for res_mysql ?`
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`01:08.44`	`ttuttle`	`sevard: hmm.`
`01:08.59`	`sevard`	`see?!`
`01:09.14`	`ttuttle`	`sevard: I know.`
`01:10.00`	`sevard`	`you can toggle crlf from <CR><NULL> to <CR><LF> but that doesn't help`
`01:10.10`	`ttuttle`	`hmm`
`01:10.10`	`ttuttle`	`I'm going to test it using irssi and watching with wireshark.`
`01:10.17`	`sevard`	`good idea`
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`01:11.56`	`ttuttle`	`I'm trying it again, using CRLF.`
`01:12.14`	`drako`	`http://pastie.caboo.se/39452 <- i want to get rid of these warnings and error`
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`01:12.32`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`drako : I already told you how to disable those modules...`
`01:12.38`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`drako : no go do it.`
`01:12.39`	`drako`	`[TK]D-Fender, i did`
`01:12.59`	`drako`	`noload => res_odbc.so`
`01:12.59`	`drako`	`noload => func_odbc.so`
`01:13.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`go into your modules folder and remove the .so while you're at it then`
`01:14.02`	`drako`	`nvm`
`01:14.04`	`drako`	`got it`
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`01:15.15`	`ttuttle_`	`Hmm, I can't get it to work either. That's strange.`
`01:17.19`	`funkmaster`	`where can i get the genzaptelconf?`
`01:17.38`	`sevard`	`ttuttle_: what to do?`
`01:18.15`	`danp`	`ttuttle_: i use vitelity, they're ok`
`01:18.16`	`sevard`	`all of the RFC docs say QUIT :msg, perhaps it's the newline stuff that telnet throws in`
`01:18.27`	`danp`	`definitely use SIP and not IAX`
`01:18.53`	`ttuttle_`	`sevard: Don't use telnet?`
`01:18.59`	`sevard`	`need it ;/`
`01:19.01`	`ttuttle_`	`danp: Why? How bad is IAX?`
`01:19.14`	`ttuttle_`	`sevard: Why? And are quit messages so important?`
`01:19.24`	`ttuttle_`	`sevard: You could always use part messages before quitting`
`01:19.27`	`sevard`	`it's just really, really annoying`
`01:19.50`	`danp`	`it can get choppy during their busy times...i actually haven't tried it in a while (they've since moved to some new servers/network and asterisk has had some changes)`
`01:19.58`	`danp`	`but SIP works fine for me`
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`01:21.25`	`ttuttle_`	`danp: Yeah, their SIP seems to be okay. I've had a couple problems connecting to toll-free numbers sometimes.`
`01:23.47`	`danp`	`i have a DID with them, too, and it works well`
`01:24.03`	`danp`	`but i think when i had them turn on intl calling they fixed my caller id name to "sixtel, LLC" which is kind of annoying`
`01:24.37`	`ttuttle_`	`Is there any way using AEL to include one context in another, but set a variable depending on which context is used? I want to have two outbound contexts that both route to Free World Dialup but with different numbers.`
`01:24.46`	`ttuttle_`	`danp: That seems annoying.`
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`01:25.36`	`funkmaster`	`does anyone know how i can get the genzaptelconf?`
`01:25.37`	`ttuttle`	`Sorry, switching back to a real IRC client.`
`01:28.11`	`danp`	`funkmaster: google?`
`01:28.22`	`funkmaster`	`yeah i tried but i don't find it`
`01:28.51`	`danp`	`http://svn.digium.com/view/zaptel/trunk/xpp/utils/genzaptelconf?rev=1720&sortby=author&view=markup`
`01:29.06`	`danp`	`actually: http://svn.digium.com/view/zaptel/trunk/xpp/utils/genzaptelconf`
`01:29.23`	`danp`	`might not be exactly the right one but it's probably a start`
`01:30.00`	`funkmaster`	`hm sorry for the noob question, but this is a shell script or what?`
`01:30.07`	`danp`	`yeah`
`01:30.28`	`funkmaster`	`and it goes in which directory?`
`01:30.40`	`danp`	`it probably doesn't matter`
`01:30.50`	`funkmaster`	`ah okey thx for the help :D`
`01:39.39`	`drako`	`anyone installed ARI standalone?`
`01:41.23`	`i3inary`	`has anyone gotten a cisco 7960 to work on 1.4.0 using P0S3-08-6-00 i cant seem to get my phone to register`
`01:45.14`	`blitzrage`	`i3inary: nope, just on 8.4`
`01:45.27`	`blitzrage`	`but I haven't tried 8.6 yet`
`01:47.37`	`i3inary`	`im going to give 8.2 a shot...i just went for the latest i never had anything working on this system to start with so i better get an old version working first`
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`02:22.59`	`ttuttle`	`Sometimes, when I place a call to a POTS line through my SIP provider, if I hang up my softphone while the POTS line is ringing, it keeps ringing.`
`02:23.24`	`ttuttle`	`If I answer the POTS call, it immediately hangs up.`
`02:24.24`	`ttuttle`	`How can I fix this?`
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`02:35.36`	`ttuttle`	`My VoIP provider won't hang up a POTS call until it's been answered.`
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`02:45.47`	`CrashHD`	`anyone have an issue where a sip phone doesn't stop ringing?`
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`03:05.12`	`Mavvie`	`If I want to stream TV over my network, I buy a Hauppage PVR250 card and it works. Does anybody know if these kind of cards also are available for radio? (in case you're wondering what this has to do with asterisk, I'm trying to figure out a way to stream radio stations over our VoIP network :-)`
`03:06.01`	`JT`	`a lot of the analogue tv tuner cards did fm radio too`
`03:07.20`	`dansmith`	`Mavvie: the PVR350 has a FM tuner`
`03:07.29`	`Mavvie`	`JT: aha, I'll have a look for them then.`
`03:07.44`	`dansmith`	`Mavvie: and the ivtv modules have radio options, so I assume there is some way to get the stream`
`03:07.57`	`Mavvie`	`dansmith: aha, didn't know that. I just have a 250.`
`03:09.21`	`Mavvie`	`I see if I have played with ivtv a looong time ago:`
`03:09.21`	`Mavvie`	`drwxr-xr-x 3 edwin edwin 512 Sep 29 2004 ivtv-0.1.10`
`03:12.57`	`Mavvie`	`hmmm... so silly... everybody is streaming in Real of WMV format, but putting their archives online as MP3.`
`03:14.24`	`Qwell`	`0.1.10? jeebus`
`03:15.10`	`Mavvie`	`Qwell: that's 2004 we're talking about.`
`03:15.20`	`dlynes_laptop`	`eh? why is zaptel 1.2.13 over twice the size of 1.2.12?`
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`03:22.15`	`coppice`	`that's progress :-)`
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`03:31.51`	`dlynes_laptop`	`progress, eh?`
`03:31.56`	`dlynes_laptop`	`you sure?`
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`03:32.19`	`The_DoC^`	`look at the changelog`
`03:33.10`	`dlynes_laptop`	`The changelog'll show what's changed`
`03:33.17`	`dlynes_laptop`	`It won't explain why it's over twice the size`
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`03:37.24`	`rue_mohr`	`any suggestions for installing * on debian?`
`03:37.45`	`coppice`	`yep, i'm sure. Vista represents more than 6 years progress over XP, and look how much that has grown`
`03:37.57`	`rue_mohr`	`coppice, none?`
`03:38.16`	`rue_mohr`	`"progress"?`
`03:38.20`	`sevard`	`coppice: -72%?`
`03:38.25`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`rue_mohr, apt-get? at least on Etch`
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`03:38.45`	`rue_mohr`	`ok, nothing important I should know about then, cool`
`03:39.02`	`rue_mohr`	`sevard, none is pretty forgiving, isn't it`
`03:39.11`	`coppice`	`if free software developers can't double size between two minor revisions they kind of competition would they be?`
`03:39.59`	`sevard`	`rue_mohr: pretty forgiving`
`03:40.02`	`rue_mohr`	`is that like using ash to add volume to dog food?`
`03:40.40`	`The_DoC^`	`I hate tring to figure the ip address of a piece of equipment that is unknown`
`03:40.47`	`rue_mohr`	`:)`
`03:40.54`	`rue_mohr`	`lcdproc ;)`
`03:41.15`	`rue_mohr`	`I assume your using the mac adderss to start with the network card manuf`
`03:42.02`	`rue_mohr`	`I think theres a way to use knoppix to start a debian install`
`03:46.36`	`The_DoC^`	`I know the mac address off of the switch, just trying to find its ip, if it was setup fordhcp then no problem but its set static`
`03:46.48`	`The_DoC^`	`and its on a differnet subnet`
`03:46.49`	`rue_mohr`	`oh thats easy`
`03:47.14`	`rue_mohr`	`use nmap to ping all the addresses on tehnetwork, cat its output to a file, do a search on it fo hte mac address`
`03:47.25`	`rue_mohr`	`bing bang boom done`
`03:47.29`	`The_DoC^`	`I did a arp -a`
`03:47.33`	`rue_mohr`	`-Sp`
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`03:53.25`	`Qwell`	`christel: I don't suppose you've heard from Bhaal in the last two days?`
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`03:56.29`	`Gershwin`	`hmm, i just got a flyer in the mail from comcast`
`03:56.41`	`Gershwin`	`comcast will do voip for 12 months for $396.00`
`03:56.47`	`Qwell`	`ugh`
`03:57.27`	`Qwell`	`that's like $35/mo`
`03:57.27`	`Gershwin`	`after 12 months, it goes up to $479.00 / year`
`03:58.06`	`Gershwin`	`oh wait`
`03:58.46`	`Gershwin`	`that's only if i have a cable TV and internet plan thru them`
`03:59.08`	`Gershwin`	`if it's only for VOIP, it's $659.40 a year`
`03:59.30`	`coppice`	`I can't imagine paying $396 for phone service :-\`
`04:00.11`	`Gershwin`	`i guess it shows that anyone with a phone switch and some bandwidth can become a telephone company, should they so chose`
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`04:08.46`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`I see David Rowe posted something that is geting close to useful regrding the echo canceller: http://www.rowetel.com/blog/?/p=23`
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`04:14.20`	`joe`	`[TK]D-Fender: ping`
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`04:15.29`	`vvortex3`	`how do you do extension _1, if you are already in extension _1 for another menu?`
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`04:16.07`	`ManxPower`	`vvortex3: you don't unless you can put it in a different context`
`04:16.30`	`vvortex3`	`k`
`04:17.28`	`coppice`	`tzafrir_laptop: it still has some way to go`
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`04:29.27`	`joe`	`how do you play a sound bite using page?`
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`04:47.40`	`Bobthehunter`	`sound bite using page ? ;) sound bites with jimmy page`
`04:48.11`	`coppice`	`aren't those called riffs?`
`04:48.21`	`Bobthehunter`	`yeah`
`04:48.26`	`Bobthehunter`	`dont know wht hes asking`
`04:48.29`	`Bobthehunter`	`sound bite ?`
`04:48.43`	`coppice`	`nibbling over IP`
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`04:49.31`	`Bobthehunter`	`noip`
`04:49.36`	`Bobthehunter`	`nibling over i p`
`04:49.37`	`Bobthehunter`	`;)`
`04:49.38`	`ManxPower`	`joe: "show application dial" did not help. Pay special attention to the A(x) optoin`
`04:50.10`	`Bobthehunter`	`anounce lol`
`04:50.10`	`Bobthehunter`	`ah`
`04:50.30`	`Bobthehunter`	`he meant .. how do i play a sound file to the called party ;)`
`04:50.41`	`Bobthehunter`	`he asked that like i usually ask questions, without sense`
`04:56.04`	`ManxPower`	`I'm in a good mood so I didn't berate him for being lazy when asking the question`
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`04:57.41`	`coppice`	`now where's the fun in that?`
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`05:09.57`	`joe`	`ManxPower: yah, figured it out thanks`
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`05:12.40`	`AlexGC`	`hello`
`05:13.16`	`shido6`	`sure`
`05:14.04`	`AlexGC`	`May I bother you gurus with a FXO question?`
`05:14.31`	`AlexGC`	`<PROTECTED>`
`05:14.42`	`Bobthehunter`	`no gurus here only jedi's`
`05:15.02`	`AlexGC`	`ha.. funny, that was mas school nickname`
`05:15.53`	`AlexGC`	`... those fast reflexes could have been handy do`
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`05:18.43`	`coppice`	`an FXO cannot reliably detect answer. the other conditions can be detected by tone detection`
`05:19.06`	`coppice`	`or is it detected by a light sabre?`
`05:19.45`	`AlexGC`	`:)`
`05:19.48`	`Bobthehunter`	`use the force to detect...`
`05:19.52`	`Bobthehunter`	`./detect -f`
`05:19.55`	`ShadowHntr`	`lol`
`05:19.58`	`AlexGC`	`<PROTECTED>`
`05:20.03`	`Bobthehunter`	`got cha`
`05:20.29`	`ShadowHntr`	`in the near future.`
`05:20.30`	`ShadowHntr`	`:)`
`05:20.47`	`AlexGC`	`I was setting up a teleyapper script that was going to dial out via an FXO, to deliver msgs.`
`05:20.55`	`Bobthehunter`	`just played 6 hours of entropia universe..`
`05:21.11`	`AlexGC`	`but on my preliminary tests, it starts playing before you answer`
`05:21.32`	`coppice`	`www.yoda.com.tw makes ATAs, but do they use light sabres?`
`05:21.45`	`Bobthehunter`	`nice eal cash game.. you can make millions.. one guy got 100k mortg on house to buy a space station and renting biz offices and 1000 lofts.. @ 1000 to 10000 peds each.. 10 PED = 1 US`
`05:22.20`	`Bobthehunter`	`so he makes 100k usd to 1 mill for lofts + all the commercial estates.`
`05:22.22`	`Bobthehunter`	`nice`
`05:24.06`	`AlexGC`	`How can one reliably detect answer?`
`05:24.16`	`Bobthehunter`	`listen ?`
`05:24.19`	`coppice`	`use ISDN`
`05:24.21`	`Bobthehunter`	`no idea..`
`05:24.24`	`Bobthehunter`	`we have only pris`
`05:24.35`	`Bobthehunter`	`analog sucked.. echo and all`
`05:24.42`	`AlexGC`	`I have no ISDN here :(`
`05:24.54`	`Bobthehunter`	`wehre u at ?`
`05:24.58`	`AlexGC`	`mexico`
`05:25.02`	`Bobthehunter`	`oh shit`
`05:25.05`	`AlexGC`	`yes`
`05:25.09`	`Bobthehunter`	`yeah i hear you .. lived 6 months there`
`05:25.17`	`orlock`	`damn`
`05:25.21`	`orlock`	`what are the comms like?`
`05:25.22`	`AlexGC`	`large telco monopoly`
`05:25.23`	`Bobthehunter`	`had to pay the telmex guy 100$ USD to bypass 6 months install time`
`05:25.25`	`coppice`	`in a few places analogue lines give a signal on answer, but its pretty rare these days`
`05:25.25`	`Bobthehunter`	`cheap ;)`
`05:25.33`	`orlock`	`Bobthehunter: ok, that says everything :)`
`05:25.37`	`Bobthehunter`	`they analog crap with static..`
`05:25.45`	`orlock`	`but at least you CAn pay a guy cash to bypass the telco!`
`05:25.51`	`Bobthehunter`	`had torule keeping a 14.4 k modem up`
`05:26.04`	`Bobthehunter`	`yes.. in canada it cost me 1k to get a T1 overnight`
`05:26.12`	`Bobthehunter`	`instead of 45 days`
`05:26.25`	`AlexGC`	`haha`
`05:26.35`	`Bobthehunter`	`then i paid 20k to get a 2 x fibers on 5 day deadline on a sonet loop`
`05:26.48`	`Bobthehunter`	`if ii dint i had lost 3 big clients`
`05:26.55`	`AlexGC`	`Bob, so you actually bypassed telmex?`
`05:26.59`	`Bobthehunter`	`but they wanted 20k monthly for local loops`
`05:27.12`	`orlock`	`Bobthehunter: dang, we never even get the option for shit like that`
`05:27.14`	`Bobthehunter`	`so i bough the floor and drilled the wall between us and UUNET at the time.. saved 20k a month`
`05:27.22`	`orlock`	`Bobthehunter: or did you have to go above somebodys head to get the option?`
`05:27.32`	`Bobthehunter`	`passed 2 1/16th of an inch wires; )`
`05:27.36`	`Bobthehunter`	`nah`
`05:27.48`	`Bobthehunter`	`you pay call install co.. here was .. hmm`
`05:27.51`	`Bobthehunter`	`expertech`
`05:28.08`	`Bobthehunter`	`then i asked for supervisor for some alram system i had to tell hiom about so i got is page.. he called back`
`05:28.14`	`Bobthehunter`	`i said ill give you cash if ...`
`05:28.18`	`orlock`	`ahhhh`
`05:28.19`	`Bobthehunter`	`and he said okay`
`05:28.21`	`orlock`	`nice work`
`05:28.32`	`Bobthehunter`	`hehe`
`05:28.36`	`Bobthehunter`	`learned that in mexico`
`05:28.50`	`AlexGC`	`hahaha`
`05:28.52`	`Bobthehunter`	`had 4 laptops @ 5k each delivered FEDEX .... to mexico`
`05:28.55`	`Bobthehunter`	`error !`
`05:28.57`	`orlock`	`yeah, i guess it would make you think of other ways to "get the job done"`
`05:29.05`	`Bobthehunter`	`customs told me to pay them 2k cahs or they kept merhcandise`
`05:29.12`	`AlexGC`	`yup`
`05:29.20`	`AlexGC`	`you need coyotes to bring merchandize in`
`05:29.22`	`Bobthehunter`	`so i said fno way im not signing delivery so you have to send back`
`05:29.24`	`AlexGC`	`specially fancy one`
`05:30.23`	`Bobthehunter`	`they sent back then i called manuf.. and saidd send to sandiego.. i got 2 my employyes ion a plane and they flew .. came back with open boxes ;)`
`05:31.14`	`orlock`	`Bobthehunter: here i think a lot of places are full of lazy people that are paid well enough that generally its not worth it for them`
`05:31.14`	`Bobthehunter`	`bah everyoen likes 1k cash`
`05:31.14`	`Bobthehunter`	`i do..`
`05:31.14`	`Bobthehunter`	`;)`
`05:31.14`	`orlock`	`Bobthehunter: open boxes or empty?`
`05:31.14`	`orlock`	`hmmm`
`05:31.14`	`Bobthehunter`	`nah they ripepd the boxes and came back with lappys ounder the arm`
`05:31.14`	`orlock`	`dell laptop being blamed for house burning down`
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`05:31.23`	`Bobthehunter`	`as personal crap .`
`05:32.07`	`Bobthehunter`	`i was staying at the marina vallarta in peurto vallarta`
`05:32.07`	`orlock`	`Bobthehunter: ahh`
`05:32.07`	`Bobthehunter`	`2 suite pentoutses for 6 months`
`05:32.07`	`Bobthehunter`	`then biat..that rented was asking me 5k each a month`
`05:32.08`	`Bobthehunter`	`and after 4 months i cought here counting and splitting rent before paying owenr.. so she was skimming 50% in her pockets`
`05:32.17`	`Bobthehunter`	`so i got her on a trip.. ;) and i dont know what hapepned next.. mexico you know`
`05:32.31`	`Bobthehunter`	`she prolly won a depp sea fishing trip one way`
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`05:33.20`	`Bobthehunter`	`ill never know.. all i asked is for the owner to get my 20k back... and it did reapeear.. so mexico is ..hmm off my list`
`05:33.29`	`Bobthehunter`	`nuf said`
`05:33.29`	`Bobthehunter`	`;)`
`05:33.30`	`AlexGC`	`LOL`
`05:33.45`	`AlexGC`	`got the idea LOL`
`05:33.45`	`orlock`	`Bobthehunter: fark`
`05:34.28`	`orlock`	`Bobthehunter: have you read Neal Stephenson's Mother Earth, Mother Board?`
`05:34.58`	`Bobthehunter`	`no`
`05:35.16`	`orlock`	`Bobthehunter: interesting story about a holiday he takes around the world following a fibre cable being laid`
`05:35.23`	`Bobthehunter`	`http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/4.12/ffglass.html`
`05:35.24`	`orlock`	`goes through thailand, etc`
`05:35.50`	`orlock`	`Bobthehunter: yup`
`05:37.04`	`Bobthehunter`	`http://slashdot.org/articles/07/02/10/1347202.shtml`
`05:37.21`	`orlock`	`Bobthehunter: yeah, i was reading that`
`05:37.22`	`Bobthehunter`	`less PMD on fiber`
`05:37.26`	`Bobthehunter`	`nice thing`
`05:37.31`	`Bobthehunter`	`the lash dot ?`
`05:37.31`	`Bobthehunter`	`lol`
`05:37.38`	`Bobthehunter`	`nice coincidence`
`05:39.11`	`orlock`	`goddamn, its getting hot`
`05:39.15`	`orlock`	`feels like its 30deg`
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`05:54.29`	`pardove`	`i have problem installing TDM2400, system waits on modprobe wctdm24xxp forever.`
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`05:57.53`	`rue_mohr`	`ok, Ihave my machine ready for *`
`05:58.05`	`sevard`	`didja prep her good?`
`05:58.10`	`rue_mohr`	`:)`
`05:58.16`	`rue_mohr`	`apt-get install asterisk?`
`05:58.26`	`sevard`	`download the source`
`05:58.31`	`rue_mohr`	`or should I avoid that likethe plauge,`
`05:58.31`	`sevard`	`compile yourself`
`05:58.33`	`rue_mohr`	`hehe ok`
`05:58.41`	`rue_mohr`	`you sure you wanna take me down that road?`
`05:59.16`	`sevard`	`for a fee.`
`05:59.21`	`rue_mohr`	`hehe`
`05:59.38`	`rue_mohr`	`downlaod source eh?`
`05:59.40`	`rue_mohr`	`hmmm`
`06:00.05`	`rue_mohr`	`hmm, version prefs?`
`06:00.17`	`rue_mohr`	`a bit back form the bleeding edge?`
`06:00.26`	`rue_mohr`	`1.2?`
`06:00.54`	`rue_mohr`	`oh, lets make this fun, 1.4`
`06:01.02`	`rue_mohr`	`ooo its .0 too`
`06:02.23`	`rue_mohr`	`is there testing I can d before installing the T1 card?`
`06:02.36`	`rue_mohr`	`ease me into it?`
`06:03.37`	`sevard`	`put your fingers into the rj45?`
`06:03.56`	`sevard`	`i say 1.2`
`06:04.13`	`sevard`	`if you want, i know a really good consultant who charges reasonable prices`
`06:04.14`	`rue_mohr`	`:)`
`06:04.30`	`rue_mohr`	`this is'n't a priority for me`
`06:04.39`	`rue_mohr`	`unless the roommates 3am call volume goes up`
`06:04.40`	`sevard`	`in fact, i know he's available right know`
`06:05.03`	`rue_mohr`	`in which case the evilness of his ivr goes up`
`06:05.06`	`sevard`	`you have a T1 going to your apartment?`
`06:05.16`	`rue_mohr`	`no, I have a newbridge`
`06:05.25`	`rue_mohr`	`and a heap of modules for it`
`06:05.50`	`rue_mohr`	`1 analog line and 2 roommates`
`06:05.53`	`rue_mohr`	`no answering machine`
`06:06.10`	`rue_mohr`	`and its a house`
`06:06.14`	`rue_mohr`	`:)`
`06:09.02`	`rue_mohr`	`I have a merridian 616, but the idea of ivr and voicemail is much too appealing`
`06:09.57`	`sevard`	`are you... dumpster diving for this shit?`
`06:10.14`	`rue_mohr`	`no I might be in kb1_kanobies fallout`
`06:10.17`	`rue_mohr`	`:)`
`06:10.51`	`sevard`	`what`
`06:11.07`	`rue_mohr`	`you dont know kb1_kanobe?`
`06:11.18`	`sevard`	`i know obi wan`
`06:11.25`	`rue_mohr`	`no kb1`
`06:11.31`	`sevard`	`not knowing`
`06:11.40`	`rue_mohr`	`he's my guru, none the less`
`06:11.57`	`sevard`	`and he gives you expensive equiptment?`
`06:12.14`	`rue_mohr`	`I dispose of things for him`
`06:12.29`	`sevard`	`"dos[pse`
`06:12.34`	`sevard`	`"dispose"`
`06:12.36`	`rue_mohr`	`the T1 card I have MIGHT have a screwie clock`
`06:13.01`	`sevard`	`i wouldn't mind being a garbage disposal for said hardware`
`06:13.25`	`rue_mohr`	`meridian 616?`
`06:13.28`	`rue_mohr`	`:)`
`06:13.33`	`sevard`	`sure`
`06:13.40`	`rue_mohr`	`heh`
`06:13.46`	`rue_mohr`	`its got no T1 connector...`
`06:13.52`	`sevard`	`neither have I`
`06:14.05`	`rue_mohr`	`you work with *?`
`06:14.09`	`sevard`	`i do`
`06:14.20`	`rue_mohr`	`what do you use for human interface?`
`06:14.40`	`sevard`	`i use parts of my body, also vocalizations are good`
`06:15.01`	`rue_mohr`	`* has a string/can interface?`
`06:15.02`	`coppice`	`psarts of the body are better`
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`06:15.49`	`sevard`	`I'm currently constructing the world's largest string and can network`
`06:15.53`	`coppice`	`have you noticed how with humans a male connector always fits a female connector? If on;y humans could design that well :-)`
`06:15.56`	`rue_mohr`	`cool`
`06:15.59`	`rue_mohr`	`I tried that once`
`06:16.10`	`rue_mohr`	`hehe`
`06:16.16`	`sevard`	`it interfaces with ISDN lines into asterisk and a repeater with LED flashers pointed at the moon`
`06:16.22`	`coppice`	`someone is trying to do OFDM over a string and two cans`
`06:16.58`	`rue_mohr`	`hmm ok`
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`06:18.06`	`rue_mohr`	`whats OFDM?`
`06:18.16`	`rue_mohr`	`???multiplexing?`
`06:20.15`	`rue_mohr`	`is a nortel system better or worse than string cans?`
`06:20.26`	`sevard`	`worse.`
`06:20.36`	`rue_mohr`	`yea, I thought maybe`
`06:21.05`	`rue_mohr`	`if nortel made string cans, you coldn't hear the guy on the other end without a liscence for each can, right?`
`06:21.17`	`rue_mohr`	`and 1 or two for the string?`
`06:21.59`	`rue_mohr`	`or 1 for the string and one for each word used over the string?`
`06:23.33`	`rue_mohr`	`"checking whether the C compiler (gcc -O6 ) works... no"`
`06:23.35`	`rue_mohr`	`WHAT?`
`06:23.44`	`Qwell`	`see config.log`
`06:23.49`	`Qwell`	`(like it says to do)`
`06:24.25`	`rue_mohr`	`:/ I cant find one`
`06:25.03`	`rue_mohr`	`ah under editline`
`06:25.21`	`rue_mohr`	`aha`
`06:25.29`	`rue_mohr`	`no ld on the system yet`
`06:25.33`	`rue_mohr`	`thankyou :)`
`06:26.14`	`rue_mohr`	`crt1.o`
`06:26.49`	`rue_mohr`	`libc6-dev`
`06:27.06`	`rue_mohr`	`ahh, the fun of a new system`
`06:28.57`	`rue_mohr`	`libncurses-dev...`
`06:30.23`	`rue_mohr`	`I think I'm gonna need a soft phone for linux...`
`06:30.48`	`rue_mohr`	`libssl-dev...`
`06:31.33`	`rue_mohr`	`kphone ?`
`06:32.44`	`rue_mohr`	`wait, voip or sip?`
`06:35.08`	`rue_mohr`	`twinkle?`
`06:35.08`	`rue_mohr`	`anyone have suggstions here?`
`06:35.11`	`rue_mohr`	`preferences?`
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`06:35.59`	`rue_mohr`	`yay, it compiled`
`06:36.38`	`rue_mohr`	`ok, its installed`
`06:36.45`	`rue_mohr`	`meaning what I'm not sure`
`06:38.34`	`rue_mohr`	`ok, I'v done some maintenance on an * machine, but never set one up from scratch`
`06:39.05`	`sevard`	`I know a really good consultant who charges reasonable prices`
`06:39.10`	`rue_mohr`	`:)`
`06:39.16`	`rue_mohr`	`I dont mind being lost!`
`06:39.22`	`sevard`	`good`
`06:39.28`	`rue_mohr`	`hmm /etc/asterisk is MT...`
`06:39.36`	`rue_mohr`	`this could be a long road...`
`06:40.19`	`rue_mohr`	`oh wait, the phone system dosn't change till this upcomming week`
`06:40.28`	`rue_mohr`	`they will still have their * machines running`
`06:41.19`	`rue_mohr`	`accept all the border routers are now nortel`
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`06:41.38`	`sevard`	`except`
`06:41.52`	`magickal1`	`its ok im just lurking`
`06:41.56`	`Qwell`	`magickal1: 7 minutes and counting`
`06:42.06`	`magickal1`	`check`
`06:42.46`	`rue_mohr`	`Qwell, what that funny ora around you?`
`06:42.53`	`Qwell`	`ora?`
`06:43.00`	`sevard`	`he can't spell.`
`06:43.27`	`rue_mohr`	`does it mean you know kb1_canobe?`
`06:45.30`	`rue_mohr`	`all his work on echo and nobody ever heard of him eh?`
`06:47.05`	`sevard`	`wether`
`06:47.21`	`sevard`	`you should make samples. you know nothing of asterisk. they'll help`
`06:47.25`	`sevard`	`make samples, then read the book.`
`06:47.30`	`sevard`	`before you ask`
`06:47.31`	`sevard`	`~thebook`
`06:47.43`	`jbot`	`it has been said that thebook is a book called Asterisk: The Future of Telephony which is found at http://www.asteriskdocs.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=11`
`06:48.03`	`rue_mohr`	`I'v done things with * before, I'v made some ivrs, added voicemail boxes`
`06:48.15`	`sevard`	`great, good job.`
`06:48.26`	`rue_mohr`	`but I'v never set one up`
`06:48.32`	`rue_mohr`	`kb1 did that`
`06:48.38`	`sevard`	`i can help you`
`06:48.43`	`rue_mohr`	`I know`
`06:48.56`	`rue_mohr`	`but can I`
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`06:49.08`	`rue_mohr`	`Qwell, bye?`
`06:49.36`	`sevard`	`I'm confused at this interaction, Qwell.`
`06:49.57`	`Qwell`	`He knows what it's about, and if he has any decency, he'll correct it.`
`06:50.23`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Qwell : "When the cure is worse than the disease."`
`06:50.43`	`sevard`	`SpAmZ`
`06:50.54`	`magickal1`	`<grin> love them mIRC svripts`
`06:52.15`	`rue_mohr`	`hmm, asterisk -r seems to indicate a process is missing...`
`06:54.27`	`rue_mohr`	`yay`
`06:54.34`	`rue_mohr`	`Connected to Asterisk 1.2.15 currently running on phony (pid = 14751)`
`06:56.22`	`rue_mohr`	`hmm, 11:00 I really ought make supper`
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`06:56.55`	`matiasds19`	`hey guys, i need to know how to force asterisk to transport the voice over udp`
`06:57.23`	`matiasds19`	`or at least who to tell asterisk to tell the server that he is using udp to transport the voice`
`06:58.15`	`matiasds19`	`someone know???`
`06:58.20`	`rue_mohr`	`not me`
`06:58.42`	`Mavvie`	`isn't that part of the SDP ?`
`07:01.13`	`matiasds19`	`yes, i think so, im analyzing traffic with ethereal, when i have an incoming call from my sip provider, the providers hang up the call i dont know why just after i answer, but if i register the provider with eyebeam o xlite, it works perfect, so comparing the traffic the differnce that i see is that with eyebeam the SIP/SD ask for udp transport, and not with asterisk`
`07:01.49`	`matiasds19`	`sorry about my english`
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`07:05.48`	`matiasds19`	`someone who can help`
`07:08.19`	`rue_mohr`	`matiasds19, I used to know this`
`07:08.36`	`rue_mohr`	`its a signaling problem`
`07:08.46`	`rue_mohr`	`they dont know you awnsered it`
`07:09.07`	`rue_mohr`	`sorry, I cant help you much more`
`07:09.12`	`matiasds19`	`so, its my problem? or what?`
`07:09.38`	`rue_mohr`	`I dont know, I think so`
`07:10.26`	`matiasds19`	`thanks a lot, now i know where to search at least`
`07:11.02`	`rue_mohr`	`:)`
`07:11.32`	`rue_mohr`	`arg, I'm plugging in the T1 card`
`07:12.01`	`rue_mohr`	`then atleast I'll FEEL like I'm making progress`
`07:13.13`	`rue_mohr`	`digium.... serial #... rev a`
`07:13.26`	`X-Rob`	`matiasds19, asterisk only uses UDP, it can't use TCP.`
`07:16.26`	`rue_mohr`	`<PROTECTED>`
`07:16.28`	`matiasds19`	`yeah, thats what i read, but i thinked that i need to tell the provider that im using udp`
`07:17.09`	`rue_mohr`	`erm, digium T1 card?`
`07:17.54`	`matiasds19`	`because when he sends me the invitation (when registerd with eyebeam) it says transport=udp, but when it sends me the invitation when registerd with asterisk it dosent says anything about transport`
`07:19.13`	`rue_mohr`	`hmm anyone know digium cards well enought o help me identify mine?`
`07:19.20`	`rue_mohr`	`its a wildcard`
`07:19.29`	`rue_mohr`	`but its only got 1 port`
`07:20.48`	`X-Rob`	`rue_mohr, sounds like a TE110`
`07:21.01`	`rue_mohr`	`ok`
`07:21.14`	`rue_mohr`	`thankyou`
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`07:27.46`	`rue_mohr`	`hmm wonder how I can test this card...`
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`07:31.40`	`rue_mohr`	`maybe I'll feel better if I mad ehte T1 crossover cable and plug in the channel bank`
`07:33.51`	`matiasds19`	`rue_mohr, are you sure that can be a signaling problem? cuz they hang up the call when i answer, why they dont hang up before or after?`
`07:34.13`	`rue_mohr`	`its a timer`
`07:34.27`	`matiasds19`	`i mean, i can hear audio for 1 second and then he hangs up`
`07:34.34`	`rue_mohr`	`timer`
`07:34.46`	`rue_mohr`	`I might be wrong`
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`07:35.05`	`matiasds19`	`but i dont answer always at the same time, and i always hear 1 second of audio`
`07:35.29`	`matiasds19`	`and then he sends the BYE request`
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`07:51.47`	`rue_mohr`	`so, looks like I'll need a xaptel driver`
`07:51.50`	`rue_mohr`	`erp`
`07:52.10`	`rue_mohr`	`which I think means I'm gonna need to configure and compile my own kernel, which is ok`
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`08:30.50`	`pardove`	`i have problem installing TDM2400, system waits on modprobe wctdm24xxp forever.`
`08:31.26`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`rue_mohr : Duh you're going to need Zaptel, but you don't need to compile a kernel for it`
`08:31.43`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`rue_mohr : Zaptel is jsut a kernel module that loads seperately`
`08:31.47`	`rue_mohr`	`its giving me grief about data types`
`08:31.58`	`rue_mohr`	`I want to adjust some kernel stuff anyhow`
`08:35.23`	`capt-rogers`	`would i be better off signing up with vonage, or setting up astereisk? I dont have any VOIP hardware at all.`
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`08:36.21`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`capt-rogers : that is not a valid comparison`
`08:37.02`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`capt-rogers : thats like asking, whats better, a Honda Civic, or a smoked meat sandwich.`
`08:37.12`	`hads`	`nice`
`08:37.44`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`capt-rogers : If you were looking for something to sell to recoup cash, then you'd say the car. However if it were "you're hungry, which would you sooner eat", I think you'd pick the latter`
`08:38.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`capt-rogers : What would you imagine * DOING for you?`
`08:38.55`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`capt-rogers : And how do ITSP's that ARE supported under * compare to Vonage's service?`
`08:38.55`	`coppice`	`sandwich, that sounds like a good idea`
`08:39.31`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Morning/whatever Mr. DSP.`
`08:39.52`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`(not sure of your time zone)`
`08:39.59`	`capt-rogers`	`i want to make long distance calls within canada and to the us. i have a bell line and a high speed internet connection. i do not want to change my current phone line since it is a VDSL phone line. thats it.`
`08:40.12`	`coppice`	`smoked salmon sounds better than smoked meat, though`
`08:40.23`	`hads`	`You probably don't need Asterisk for just that`
`08:40.47`	`coppice`	`At the third stroke it will be 4:41PM, precisely... whip...whip....whip!`
`08:40.57`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`coppice : Depends on our mood. Montreal smoked meat is legendary.`
`08:41.26`	`coppice`	`macdonald's burgers are legendary too :-)`
`08:41.31`	`dlynes_laptop`	`nah...smoked salmon is much better`
`08:41.46`	`dlynes_laptop`	`montreal smoked meat is pretty good`
`08:41.52`	`dlynes_laptop`	`but smoked salmon is still better`
`08:42.31`	`capt-rogers`	`japanese colby burgers...better still :)`
`08:42.51`	`hads`	`Colby? Cheese?`
`08:43.02`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`capt-rogers : At which point I'd have to say your easiest option is to buy an ATA like the SPA-3102 and you can configure it to connect with your ITSP. It would also hook into your land line and inside you can tell it how to route calls. for instance everything starting with ## will go out your ITSP, everything else out your land-line.`
`08:43.13`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`capt-rogers : no need for *, and you can use a normal phone.`
`08:43.43`	`capt-rogers`	`i wonder how one becones a massage therapist for Colby cows...thats a weird profession.`
`08:43.55`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dlynes_laptop : Again, depends on your mood. Smoked meat is "comfort food". Smoked Salmon is more ... "intellectual" or 'refined" IMO`
`08:43.59`	`hads`	`Kobe?`
`08:44.49`	`dlynes_laptop`	`yeah...salmon are much smarter than cows`
`08:45.01`	`dlynes_laptop`	`much more high brow creatures`
`08:45.52`	`capt-rogers`	`what is an ATA? I dont imagine the SPA-3102 is something you buy at radio shack...i will google it later...`
`08:47.28`	`capt-rogers`	`if i decide to use asterisk, i will still need an ATA SPA-3102, correct?`
`08:48.48`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`capt-rogers : Everything depends on the kind of gear you want to use and how.`
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`08:49.09`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`capt-rogers : And ATA lets you sue an analog phone as a SIP phone.`
`08:49.44`	`PakiPenguin`	`sue ;)`
`08:49.46`	`PakiPenguin`	`hehe`
`08:49.48`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`capt-rogers : the SPA-3102 is special in that it also lets you take in a LINE and use with SIP, and the device canhandle all sorts of special routing all by itself without * if you wish`
`08:49.52`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`use`
`08:50.25`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`PakiPenguin : Laugh at my typos, and I'll retaliate on your grammar :)`
`08:51.00`	`capt-rogers`	`i am an open source zealot..if its cool, i have to figure it out...my last oss project was mythtv.`
`08:52.51`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`capt-rogers : * is worth looking at anyways, in terms of adding more features that you first mentioned. Get a grasp of how ITSP's work, and the different kind of hardwares involved, and shop around`
`08:53.04`	`capt-rogers`	`i dont want to become a telecom expert, but if thats the road i have to travel, then i will be happy to become an asterisk expert too.`
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`08:54.37`	`PakiPenguin`	`[TK]D-Fender :) sure :p hehe`
`08:54.38`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`capt-rogers : Doesn't take much to pin down the in&outs.`
`08:54.52`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ok, WAY past check-out time here.... later all`
`08:54.53`	`fetcher`	`what could cause a Polycom 501 to have consistent one-way audio? (no incoming, but outgoing OK)`
`08:55.02`	`PakiPenguin`	`later [TK]D-Fender`
`08:58.11`	`capt-rogers`	`i wikipedia'd asterisk..yeah its got a high cool factor...i will find a good ATA and get cracking on this next week...`
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`09:01.55`	`unimprtnt`	`capt: always a good idea..... hey, you said vonage right?`
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`09:29.39`	`Vec`	`Why would one put congestion after dialing a channel rather than hangup ?`
`09:33.16`	`fetcher`	`Vec: better feedback to the user when/if the Dial() fails`
`09:35.42`	`pardove`	`does TDM2400 work on 3.3V PCI slots`
`09:35.48`	`pardove`	`does TDM2400 work on 3.3V PCI slots?`
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`09:55.44`	`Vec`	`fetcher : would I need a congestion and then a hangup`
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`10:00.11`	`FuriousGeorge`	`im getting some error when compiling zaptel, and google is not helping`
`10:00.48`	`FuriousGeorge`	`http://pastebin.ca/350283`
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`10:07.51`	`FuriousGeorge`	`anyone?`
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`10:10.23`	`FuriousGeorge`	`so i went with zaptel 1.2.12 instead of ..13 and that seems to work`
`10:12.45`	`FuriousGeorge`	`Loading module chan_zap.so failed!`
`10:13.19`	`FuriousGeorge`	`and i heard from a good source that 1.4 is not ready for production, so where does that leave me :)`
`10:16.01`	`tzafrir`	`FuriousGeorge, is this a standard gentoo kernel?`
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`10:18.21`	`tzafrir`	`FuriousGeorge, as a bad workaround, rem-out the line 'EXTRA_CFLAGS += -DXPP_DEBUGFS' in xpp/Makefile`
`10:18.55`	`tzafrir`	`FuriousGeorge, yet this shouldn't have happened.`
`10:19.20`	`tzafrir`	`Regarding 1.4: you're likely to get exactly the same error from 1.4`
`10:19.42`	`tzafrir`	`(trunk, that is)`
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`10:30.43`	`fetcher`	`ah, found what was causing the Polycom's one-way-audio glitch`
`10:31.28`	`fetcher`	`changing tcpIpApp.port.rtp.filterByIp="0" -> "1" in its sip.cfg fixed it`
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`10:32.09`	`FuriousGeorge`	`tzafrir_laptop: the failed to load chan zap was my fault :) forgot to make samples`
`10:32.53`	`FuriousGeorge`	`as for the issue with invalid arg. on the struct, i just assume use 1.2.12 for now and not worry about it`
`10:33.02`	`fetcher`	`er, "1" -> "0". This * box is multihomed, and uses its outside interface IP for SIP invites, whereas RTP streams came from the inside IP... so Polycom blocked it by default`
`10:33.08`	`FuriousGeorge`	`and it is a standard gentoo kernel, but i built asterisk from subversion`
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`10:47.54`	`tzafrir`	`FuriousGeorge, so you now use zaptel 1.2.12?`
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`10:59.17`	`Speedy2`	`Hey all. Does anyone know if the Intel 600SM PCI FXS card is supported, or what chipset it is using?`
`10:59.34`	`Corydon76-home`	`It's not supported`
`11:00.22`	`Speedy2`	`Corydon-w: Is it Intel's own chipset or something like a Dialogic part?`
`11:00.53`	`Speedy2`	`Corydon-w: Do you know of any other single-port FXS cards? (USB or PCI)`
`11:01.17`	`Corydon76-home`	`Just the Digium cards`
`11:02.08`	`Corydon76-home`	`Dear god... $300 for a single port FXS?`
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`11:02.26`	`Speedy2`	`Corydon-w: Yeah...see why I'm interested in the Intel card?`
`11:02.37`	`Corydon76-home`	`I was talking about the Intel card`
`11:02.49`	`Corydon76-home`	`The Digium cards are much less expensive`
`11:03.03`	`Speedy2`	`The Intel card is $300?`
`11:03.11`	`Corydon76-home`	`According to Froogle it is`
`11:04.06`	`tzafrir`	`Speaking of drivers: where can I find drivers to use an x100P card as a modem? Hopefully linux drivers. The card seems to be one with a MD3200 chip`
`11:04.38`	`tzafrir`	`(need to test some stuff with a modem, and this is the modem I have handy)`
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`11:07.10`	`Stp1800`	`Hi guys.`
`11:07.22`	`Stp1800`	`I'm looking to link several locations to the world for phone access.`
`11:07.42`	`Stp1800`	`Each location will be linked via satellite link to a main Asterisk server.`
`11:08.14`	`Stp1800`	`Basicall what I want to do is have the main asterisk server connect to say either voice pulse or voipjet for receiving / making calls.`
`11:08.36`	`Stp1800`	`What is the best codec to use between each location and the transcode server?`
`11:08.39`	`Corydon76-home`	`You had me until you said "satellite link"`
`11:09.05`	`Corydon76-home`	`That adds half a second of latency`
`11:09.22`	`Stp1800`	`Each system will be connects to the internet via a satellite link.`
`11:09.41`	`Corydon76-home`	`I heard you`
`11:10.12`	`Stp1800`	`I've been messing around with a couple of my own systems here and have been playing with a few codecs to see what I can get as far as least amount of bandwidth used when making calls.`
`11:10.13`	`Corydon76-home`	`Doesn't matter what codec you're using, the issue is the latency`
`11:10.39`	`Stp1800`	`Do any of the free codecs come close to what g729 does?`
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`11:14.42`	`niekie`	`Does a Nokia N80 support SIP?`
`11:14.50`	`niekie`	`(Or IAX(2))?`
`11:15.27`	`tzafrir`	`Stp1800, take a look at speex`
`11:15.54`	`tzafrir`	`gsm is also not that bad`
`11:16.16`	`Stp1800`	`I took a little look at the config file for speex but there seem to be a lot of values that I'm not sure what they mean / are used for.`
`11:16.34`	`tzafrir`	`use the defaults...`
`11:17.59`	`tzafrir`	`"config file for speex"? which do you refer to? the speex library itself?`
`11:18.50`	`Stp1800`	`I think the file is called codecs.conf`
`11:20.53`	`tzafrir`	`hmm... I wonder how useful can it be to play with the "complexity" parameter`
`11:22.34`	`Stp1800`	`What I'm talking about is a file that has variables like, complex value, and quality.`
`11:22.58`	`tzafrir`	`I saw that. Use the defaults for starters, I guess`
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`11:49.29`	`Stp1800`	`Not bad.`
`11:49.29`	`Stp1800`	`0.9 k per sec for three calls trunked with iax2.`
`11:49.33`	`Stp1800`	`Ah, 9.8`
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`11:49.40`	`Stp1800`	`using speex codec.`
`12:01.00`	`mafkees`	`does it sound good ?`
`12:01.22`	`Stp1800`	`Sounds ok.`
`12:01.33`	`Stp1800`	`There is a little more delay than I expected.`
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`12:08.11`	`pardove`	`does TDM2400 work on 3.3V PCI slots?`
`12:15.01`	`niekie`	`Hmmm... looks like I got chan_gtalk working.`
`12:15.23`	`niekie`	`Does chan_gtalk auto-accept new subscribe requests?`
`12:16.22`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`niekie, I believe you subscribe there with your gtalk existing account.`
`12:16.22`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`you connect as a client, not as another jabber server, right?`
`12:16.37`	`niekie`	`tzafrir_laptop, no, I mean, does it automatically accept new contacts?`
`12:17.05`	`niekie`	`Hmm, only 1 way to find out :)`
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`12:20.35`	`misc--`	`hello, where can i get the kernel source for Asterisk? I have trixbox installed and need to apply a patch to the kernel`
`12:24.31`	`tzafrir`	`misc--, you probably mean zaptel`
`12:24.49`	`tzafrir`	`If you use rpm packages, get the source rpm from which they were built`
`12:24.50`	`misc--`	`tzafrir: I don't actually need zaptel`
`12:25.21`	`tzafrir`	`whatever. get the kernel package's source rpm`
`12:25.33`	`misc--`	`Ok. Actually I want to install OpenVZ but it requires either a new kernel (based off CentOS, so that's ok), or patch the existing one`
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`12:26.16`	`misc--`	`so, I'm running kernel-2.6.9-34.EL so I should find the src rpm then`
`12:28.58`	`niekie`	`tzafrir_laptop, I found out it does, and does not.`
`12:29.05`	`niekie`	`It does, but it doesn't work due to a bug :P`
`12:30.04`	`niekie`	`http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=8210`
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`12:58.33`	`L\|NUX`	`hello every one`
`12:58.40`	`L\|NUX`	`can some one tell me how to fix this issue`
`12:58.40`	`L\|NUX`	`Feb 11 01:50:32 WARNING[11651]: chan_sip.c:1227 retrans_pkt: Maximum retries exceeded on transmission 2629883498@192.168.1.10 for seqno 2 (Critical Response)`
`12:58.41`	`L\|NUX`	`Feb 11 01:50:32 WARNING[11651]: chan_sip.c:1244 retrans_pkt: Hanging up call 2629883498@192.168.1.10 - no reply to our critical packet.`
`12:58.52`	`L\|NUX`	`i keep getting this and my call disconnects`
`12:59.59`	`L\|NUX`	`any one arround`
`13:00.26`	`ManxPower`	`L\|NUX: Is this disconnect in the middle of a call or during call setup?`
`13:00.37`	`L\|NUX`	`middle of the call`
`13:00.51`	`L\|NUX`	`the problem is i am testing ATA with provider`
`13:00.58`	`ManxPower`	`L\|NUX: Weird. The message means that the remote side stopped sending data`
`13:01.12`	`L\|NUX`	`humm`
`13:01.13`	`ManxPower`	`specifically it stopped sending responses to asterisk's data`
`13:01.18`	`L\|NUX`	`hummm`
`13:01.29`	`L\|NUX`	`remote side = my asterisk box ?`
`13:01.41`	`ManxPower`	`USUALLY that issue happens at the beginning of the call and is caused by firewall or NAT issues.`
`13:01.57`	`L\|NUX`	`humm`
`13:02.03`	`ManxPower`	`But it could also happen because of a transient network outage (more than a dropped packet or two)`
`13:02.12`	`L\|NUX`	`humm`
`13:02.28`	`ManxPower`	`L\|NUX: Make sure the device has all NAT features turned off.`
`13:03.09`	`L\|NUX`	`okies`
`13:03.15`	`L\|NUX`	`can i show you my ATA config`
`13:03.19`	`L\|NUX`	`in pastebin ?`
`13:03.42`	`ManxPower`	`L\|NUX: No.`
`13:03.57`	`L\|NUX`	`humm`
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`13:04.14`	`ManxPower`	`But you now have a place to start looking.`
`13:04.32`	`L\|NUX`	`okies`
`13:04.34`	`L\|NUX`	`let me check`
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`13:05.10`	`L\|NUX`	`NatServer: 0.0.0.0`
`13:05.23`	`L\|NUX`	`NATIP: 0.0.0.0`
`13:05.38`	`L\|NUX`	`NatTimer: 0x00000000`
`13:05.47`	`L\|NUX`	`this is what i have in ATA config`
`13:06.10`	`littleball`	`hello, after i compile and install asterisk 1.2.14, i found i need to compile zaptel first. how to clean the previous asterisk installation?`
`13:06.31`	`L\|NUX`	`make clean`
`13:06.34`	`L\|NUX`	`make install`
`13:06.39`	`L\|NUX`	`or make uninstal && make install`
`13:06.47`	`xheliox`	`littleball: Just 'make clean' in the source dir and then when you 'make install' again, it'll overwrite the old files.`
`13:07.00`	`littleball`	`xheliox, are you sure?`
`13:07.02`	`shmaltz`	`I have got an integrated T1 from a provider, pluged into an adit 600 using a router card, then the adit outputs 5 bchannels and 1 dchannel, the adit died, and plugged the t1 directly into a digium card but the dchannel is not coming up, I am assuming becuase it is shared between data, how can I make asterisk use it as a dchannel?`
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`13:07.27`	`littleball`	`i need to make ztdummy work`
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`13:07.51`	`xheliox`	`littleball: Si. Unless for some reason when you recompile certain modules do not build as they did previously, so then you'd want to rm -rf /usr/lib/asterisk/modules first, but that's not -usually- required.`
`13:08.43`	`shmaltz`	`littleball, you followed the wiki?`
`13:08.53`	`shmaltz`	`~wiki`
`13:09.11`	`shmaltz`	`~docs`
`13:09.19`	`jbot`	`docs is, like, Documentation can be found at http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk or http://www.asteriskdocs.org or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/asterisk or http://www.asteriskguru.com`
`13:09.19`	`littleball`	`shmaltz, i read all wiki.`
`13:09.32`	`shmaltz`	`littleball, and???????????????? waht is the problem?`
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`13:09.50`	`littleball`	`after my reinstallation, asterisk cannot run anymore`
`13:10.09`	`shmaltz`	`littleball, reinstall of what?`
`13:10.13`	`xheliox`	`Something wrong with your ? key, shmaltz?`
`13:10.26`	`shmaltz`	`xheliox, what key?`
`13:10.42`	`xheliox`	`sit down before your hurt yourself.`
`13:10.57`	`shmaltz`	`xheliox, what key?`
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`13:11.57`	`Renacor`	`hi can somebody point me to a good howto for setting up asterisk with european analog phone lines?`
`13:12.01`	`Renacor`	`i have a tdm400p card`
`13:15.58`	`ManxPower`	`shmaltz: set the data channels as unused.`
`13:16.06`	`ManxPower`	`see the sample zap config file`
`13:16.37`	`ManxPower`	`little WHAT is the error message`
`13:17.00`	`ManxPower`	`Renacor: you should not require anything special to make the work.`
`13:17.04`	`ManxPower`	`at least for testing`
`13:17.19`	`shmaltz`	`ManxPower, first is that not the same is not setting those channles? also I think (again I think, i did not yet have a chance to log into the box, data part is down) that the problem is that the dchannel is shared between the data channels, is that not a problem?`
`13:18.34`	`ManxPower`	`shmaltz: the d channel is not shared no matter what kind of line you have.`
`13:18.54`	`ManxPower`	`Well, other than NFTAS lines, but you need more than 1 PRI to have NFAS, so that is not your problem.`
`13:19.19`	`shmaltz`	`ManxPower, thanks, and the fact that the other channles are not set could make trouble?`
`13:19.28`	`ManxPower`	`shmaltz: it should not matter.`
`13:19.48`	`ManxPower`	`and if it does matter, it should not cause the error messages about the D channel that you are seeing.`
`13:19.57`	`shmaltz`	`the only ohter thing I'm thinking (which I'm waiting to get access to verify) is that the dchannel is realy on a dirrerent channel, and was cross connected to anothe rchannel`
`13:20.04`	`ManxPower`	`speaking of error messages, what ARE the error messages.`
`13:20.24`	`shmaltz`	`ManxPower, I don't know, all I kjnow, is that the LED is green and that it's NOT up`
`13:20.37`	`ManxPower`	`shmaltz: it could have been cross connected to a different channel in the channel bank. I would call that "telco stupidity"`
`13:21.27`	`shmaltz`	`ManxPower, but would it light green even if the dchannle is DOWN?`
`13:21.47`	`ManxPower`	`shmaltz: BTW, having the channel bank separate out the voice and data and only having the voice sent to asterisk is what I ALWAYS recommend..`
`13:22.05`	`ManxPower`	`shmaltz: "green" means "physical layer is good", not "protocol is good"`
`13:22.39`	`ManxPower`	`shmaltz: are you seeing ANY error messages on the CLI when trying to receive a call?`
`13:22.43`	`shmaltz`	`ManxPower, thats what I would do, but appearantly they crossconnected it in zig zag fashion`
`13:22.54`	`littleball`	`hello, after my reinstallation of asterisk, i always got the error Unable to connect to remote asterisk (does /var/run/asterisk.ctl exist?) when i run asterisk -r`
`13:22.57`	`littleball`	`who can help?`
`13:23.02`	`shmaltz`	`ManxPower, no CLI as of yet, waiting for that guy to push VNC to me`
`13:23.17`	`ManxPower`	`littleball: that means "asterisk is not running". use "asterisk -cvvv" to see wha the ACTUAL error message is.`
`13:23.18`	`shmaltz`	`litelball, run asterisk -vvvvvc what error do you get?`
`13:23.19`	`littleball`	`/var/run/asterisk.ctl exist`
`13:23.31`	`shmaltz`	`littlenall, then delete it`
`13:23.33`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`another asterisk is running`
`13:23.51`	`shmaltz`	`yes, tzafrir is right`
`13:23.53`	`littleball`	`dr_pgsql.so failed!`
`13:24.08`	`ManxPower`	`littleball: there is your error`
`13:24.09`	`littleball`	`the last liine is [cdr_pgsql.so]Feb 12 05:29:00 WARNING[22337]: loader.c:325 __load_resource: libpq.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory`
`13:24.09`	`littleball`	`Feb 12 05:29:00 WARNING[22337]: loader.c:554 load_modules: Loading module cdr_pgsql.so failed!`
`13:24.23`	`shmaltz`	`littleball, add noload dr_pgsql.so to your modules.conf`
`13:24.41`	`ManxPower`	`to your /etc/asterisk/modules.conf not your /etc/modules.conf`
`13:24.51`	`shmaltz`	`unless you need it, then recompliet it against your new asterisk`
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`13:25.04`	`SuPrSluG`	`hello all`
`13:25.08`	`Stp1800`	`leave #asterisk`
`13:25.15`	`ManxPower`	`shmaltz: you can't SSH into he box?`
`13:25.19`	`shmaltz`	`tzafrir, busydetect for some reason doesn't work with clecs here`
`13:25.30`	`shmaltz`	`ManxPower, not yet, soon I'll be able to`
`13:25.34`	`ManxPower`	`shmaltz: it doesn't seem to work at all. 8-)`
`13:26.09`	`ManxPower`	`shmaltz: until you can get access to the box, you would have better luck trying to diagnose the problem by reading tea leafs`
`13:26.10`	`shmaltz`	`ManxPower, NO I'm in the UK, and the machine is in Inwood, NY`
`13:26.34`	`littleball`	`oh, thanks. it work now`
`13:26.37`	`shmaltz`	`in around an hour I shold have ssh to it`
`13:27.30`	`shmaltz`	`the guy has internet (thru a backup DSL), and will just push VNC to his local net, the problem is that asterisk has only the t1 as the 0.0.0.0 route and that is down`
`13:28.23`	`SuPrSluG`	`i want to originate a call from a meetme room through manager api. i know this is possible. i could use some help w/ the syntax.`
`13:28.25`	`ManxPower`	`shouldn't the telco be dealing with this channel bank problem`
`13:28.44`	`shmaltz`	`ManxPower, yes on Monday`
`13:28.49`	`ManxPower`	`SuPrSluG: remove meetme from your mind.`
`13:28.53`	`Renacor`	`anybody know what switchtype you have to use in zapata.conf for germany?`
`13:28.55`	`ManxPower`	`SuPrSluG: thereis nothing special about it`
`13:29.01`	`Renacor`	`euroisdn?`
`13:29.07`	`ManxPower`	`Renacor: switch type does not appply for analog lines`
`13:29.12`	`Renacor`	`ahh k`
`13:29.29`	`shmaltz`	`ManxPower, could be today we havnt' called them yet, in any case its our fault for the CB, there was a huge fountain like flud in the dmarc room`
`13:29.29`	`Renacor`	`so does the analog line plug into the fxs port or the fxo port?`
`13:29.37`	`ManxPower`	`~fxofxs`
`13:29.55`	`jbot`	`fxofxs is probably An FXO port expects to receive dialtone and receive ring voltage, you plug a phone LINE into this. An FXS port expects to provide dialtone and provide ring voltage, you plug a PHONE into this.`
`13:29.55`	`shmaltz`	`flud=flood`
`13:29.55`	`SuPrSluG`	`just treat it as a normal originate?`
`13:30.16`	`Renacor`	`great :)`
`13:30.26`	`ManxPower`	`SuPrSluG: yes with one leg of the call conneting to the extension that runs meetme`
`13:30.28`	`Renacor`	`now how do you figure out which port is fxo and fxs on a tdm 400 p heh`
`13:30.51`	`ManxPower`	`Renacor: I don't know, but if you plug the phone line into an FXS port it will blow the port and you will have to replace it.`
`13:31.06`	`ManxPower`	`(it will only blow the port when the first call comes in)`
`13:31.12`	`coppice`	`good test :-)`
`13:31.16`	`Renacor`	`don't want that hehe`
`13:31.23`	`pardove`	`does TDM2400 work on 3.3V PCI slots?`
`13:31.38`	`ManxPower`	`pardove: what do the specs say?`
`13:31.39`	`SuPrSluG`	`for channel do i use -> Channel:zap/${EXTEN} to dial a number?`
`13:31.55`	`SuPrSluG`	`like calling normally`
`13:32.18`	`ManxPower`	`SuPrSluG: I doubt ${EXTEN} will contain anything in manager`
`13:33.09`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`Renacor, there's an automated test for that. But you can also run genzaptelconf`
`13:33.29`	`Renacor`	`k`
`13:33.41`	`Renacor`	`don't have genzaptelconf`
`13:34.02`	`ManxPower`	`genzaptelconf is not part of standard zaptel IIRC`
`13:34.11`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`wget http://svn.digium.com/svn/zaptel/branches/1.2/xpp/utils/genzaptelconf`
`13:34.16`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`now you do`
`13:34.22`	`Renacor`	`heh thanks :)`
`13:34.23`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`wget http://svn.digium.com/svn/zaptel/branches/1.2/xpp/utils/genzaptelconf.8`
`13:34.28`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`now you have the man page`
`13:34.36`	`Renacor`	`cool thanks`
`13:34.37`	`ManxPower`	`tzanger: well there is a great place for it, in the USB channelbank driver directory`
`13:35.05`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`ManxPower, originally it was the only place I had write access to`
`13:35.17`	`ManxPower`	`tzafrir does that tell him what port on the back of the card is fxo/fxs`
`13:35.19`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`Not the best of places`
`13:35.33`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`genzaptelconf -l`
`13:35.33`	`ManxPower`	`tzafrir you might want to get it moved.`
`13:36.35`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`I will, but there are more important things in zaptel to move first`
`13:36.35`	`shmaltz`	`Renacor, dmesg should tell you`
`13:36.46`	`ManxPower`	`I didn't think the TDM400P had numbers on the back of the card.`
`13:37.37`	`shmaltz`	`ManxPower, IIRC it does have a one, in any event top is 1`
`13:37.49`	`shmaltz`	`top being the port closer to the screw`
`13:38.13`	`ManxPower`	`shmaltz: Ah. The Digium analog cards never worked well for us so we don't use them (have not used them for several years)`
`13:39.23`	`ManxPower`	`shmaltz: I got tired of running from the mob of villagers...er...users carrying torches and screaming "Burn the geek!"`
`13:40.17`	`coppice`	`ManxPowers have layers :-)`
`13:40.42`	`ManxPower`	`Any Asterisk server with a Digium analog card in it now gets rebooted every monday morning.`
`13:40.50`	`shmaltz`	`ManxPower, for a while I used only t1 cards and CB, but they are way too expensive`
`13:41.03`	`Renacor`	`k so genzaptelconf tells me which ports are fxs and fxo`
`13:41.03`	`Renacor`	`now to figure out which port is port 1 physically`
`13:41.08`	`shmaltz`	`ManxPower, no reboots here`
`13:41.34`	`shmaltz`	`08:41:22 up 59 days, 8:30, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00`
`13:41.50`	`ManxPower`	`Digium wanted to try to diagnose the issue (happens on multiple servers using different motherboards and different revisions of the TDM card), but the problem only seems to happen on production servers (never test servers) and only when call volume is fairly high.`
`13:42.00`	`shmaltz`	`pbx*CLI> show uptime`
`13:42.02`	`shmaltz`	`System uptime: 7 weeks, 2 days, 13 hours, 38 minutes, 8 seconds`
`13:42.03`	`shmaltz`	`Last reload: 5 days, 21 hours, 50 minutes, 25 seconds`
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`13:42.19`	`ManxPower`	`And I cannot and will not be rebooting production servers at random times`
`13:42.23`	`shmaltz`	`ManxPower, what is the problem?`
`13:42.33`	`Renacor`	`now to figure out which port is port1 physically on this tdm400p`
`13:42.41`	`ManxPower`	`shmaltz: port stops responding until a reboot`
`13:43.39`	`shmaltz`	`since 7 * $200 (per phone) = $3000 for customer, let them spend the extra $500 for the diff between CB and digijm`
`13:43.52`	`ManxPower`	`shmaltz: exactly.`
`13:43.53`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`Basically the test is: (i=NN; ztcfg -c <(echo fxsks=$i) && echo $i not FXO ; ztcfg -c <(echo fxoks=$i) && echo $i not FXS )`
`13:44.24`	`Renacor`	`yeah I kno which ports are fxo and which are fxs`
`13:44.29`	`Renacor`	`but physically which is port1`
`13:44.33`	`ManxPower`	`shmaltz: We let our telco put in a channel bank for the analog ports, they don't even go thru asterisk`
`13:44.44`	`ManxPower`	`Renacor: someone said the top port`
`13:44.54`	`Renacor`	`top is where the screw is for the card?`
`13:45.03`	`Renacor`	`or where you screw the card into the case?`
`13:45.18`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`Isn't there a way to make the led on a specific port light?`
`13:45.24`	`ManxPower`	`the port furthest from the PCI connecotor`
`13:45.35`	`Renacor`	`k`
`13:45.36`	`Renacor`	`thanks`
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`13:52.05`	`dj-fu`	`lol I had such a mission on my tdm400p working out what one was the port1`
`13:52.18`	`dj-fu`	`fortunately "the book" has a picture of my exact card, albeit with two modules instead of four`
`13:54.27`	`ManxPower`	`~book`
`13:54.34`	`jbot`	`it has been said that book is a book called Asterisk: The Future of Telephony which is found at http://www.asteriskdocs.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=11`
`13:55.25`	`pardove`	`ManxPower: i have already a TDM400 working fine on 3.3V pci, but when inserting tdm2400 modprobe wctdm24xxp waits for ever. dmesg shows that it has detected tdm2400 but it waits on "Resetting the modules..."`
`13:55.34`	`pardove`	`ManxPower: i have already a TDM400 working fine on 3.3V pci`
`13:56.04`	`ManxPower`	`pardove: does the td2400 require a power connector?`
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`13:56.19`	`ManxPower`	`pardove: I mean't the specifications of the board as published by Digium`
`13:57.00`	`pardove`	`ManxPower: no (i think), 'cose all of them has just fxo modules.`
`13:57.44`	`pardove`	`ManxPower: connecting the 5/12V power to them doesn't change anything`
`13:57.49`	`ManxPower`	`pardove: the TDM400P with onlly FXO does not need the power connected, but that may not be true for the TDM2400`
`13:58.27`	`pardove`	`ManxPower: i have tested both cond. with and w/o power`
`13:59.32`	`pardove`	`ManxPower: modprobe exits just when i kill it. after than dmesg shows: "Port 1: Not Installed, ..."`
`14:00.49`	`ManxPower`	`pardove: odd`
`14:00.59`	`ManxPower`	`pardove: why are you not using a PRI if you need all those FXO ports?`
`14:01.56`	`shmaltz`	`What is this:`
`14:01.58`	`shmaltz`	`http://www.pastebin.ca/350491`
`14:02.03`	`shmaltz`	`asterisk sending or receiving?`
`14:02.27`	`pardove`	`ManxPower: i've just purchased this card (tdm24) because it was cheaper than t1+CB`
`14:04.25`	`pardove`	`Has anybody used TDM2400 on 3.3V PCI slot?`
`14:11.47`	`mafkees`	`is digium going to create an AADK with E1/T1 interface option ?`
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`14:12.47`	`ManxPower`	`what is AADK`
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`14:15.39`	`shmaltz`	`how does asterisk know what channel is the D channel?`
`14:15.52`	`shmaltz`	`thru /etc/zapata.conf?`
`14:16.04`	`shmaltz`	`Imean /etc/zaptel.conf?`
`14:16.17`	`tzafrir`	`<PROTECTED>`
`14:16.54`	`shmaltz`	`tzafrir, I don't think so, where?`
`14:17.11`	`tzafrir`	`in zapata.conf (asterisk): it basically gueses. You only write b channels`
`14:17.14`	`shmaltz`	`why am I getting this:`
`14:17.16`	`shmaltz`	`Feb 11 09:14:27 ERROR[1668]: chan_zap.c:9094 start_pri: Unable to open D-channel 32 (No such device or address)`
`14:17.21`	`shmaltz`	`Feb 11 09:14:27 ERROR[1668]: chan_zap.c:10907 setup_zap: Unable to start D-channel on span 3`
`14:17.23`	`shmaltz`	`Feb 11 09:14:27 WARNING[1668]: loader.c:414 __load_resource: chan_zap.so: load_module failed, returning -1`
`14:17.34`	`tzafrir`	`shmaltz, zapata.conf is /etc/asterisk/zapata.conf`
`14:17.37`	`shmaltz`	`I set dchan=9 in zaptel.conf`
`14:18.05`	`tzafrir`	`shmaltz, how come the d chan is not in a strandard place?`
`14:18.23`	`shmaltz`	`tzafrir, standard is where you put it`
`14:18.29`	`tzafrir`	`anyway, to tell that explicitly, look at the trunkgroups section in the sample zapata.conf`
`14:18.42`	`ManxPower`	`shmaltz: on T-1 the d channel is the 24th channel on the line.`
`14:18.45`	`ManxPower`	`on E-1 it is the 16th`
`14:19.25`	`shmaltz`	`ManxPower, only if I set it there`
`14:19.29`	`shmaltz`	`how can I change it?`
`14:19.36`	`shmaltz`	`if I want it on 9`
`14:19.41`	`shmaltz`	`or 10`
`14:19.44`	`shmaltz`	`or whatever`
`14:20.04`	`x86`	`your friendly CLEC has to support that`
`14:20.14`	`x86`	`and you have to coordinate with them when you change it`
`14:20.30`	`funkmaster`	`svn checkout http://svn.digium.com/svn/asterisk-sounds/trunk asterisk-sounds is not working what do i have to use instead?`
`14:22.14`	`funkmaster`	`anyone?`
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`14:26.08`	`funkmaster`	`ok think i got it... thx anyways`
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`14:30.32`	`shmaltz`	`Primary D-channel: 14`
`14:30.33`	`shmaltz`	`Status: Provisioned, Up, Active`
`14:35.00`	`mafkees`	`ManxPower: AADK == Asterisk Appliance Developer Kit`
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`14:42.59`	`Dovid`	`~bandwith monitor`
`14:43.14`	`Dovid`	`~bandwith calculator`
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`14:58.33`	`ccid`	`hi`
`14:58.44`	`ccid`	`maybe somebody could help me with this question`
`14:58.52`	`ccid`	`is there a way to take an inbound iax call`
`14:58.58`	`ccid`	`automatically dial an iax call`
`14:59.07`	`ccid`	`wait for dtmf from the inbound call`
`14:59.19`	`ccid`	`dial a second iax call based on the dtmf input`
`14:59.32`	`ccid`	`and then bridge the two outbound calls and hangup the inbound one`
`14:59.34`	`ccid`	`?`
`15:00.01`	`tzafrir`	`ccid, yes. Look into Read (show application read)`
`15:01.36`	`ccid`	`tzafrir, thanks`
`15:01.49`	`ccid`	`that would help with reading the dtmf values though`
`15:02.14`	`ccid`	`here's what happens. i can dial multiple extensions at once when I receive the inbound call`
`15:02.45`	`ccid`	`but what I really need is one extensions to be dialed inmediately after the inbound call is received`
`15:02.57`	`ccid`	`and if this call is taken, dial the second extensions`
`15:03.17`	`ccid`	`i dont want the second extension dialed until im sure the first one was answered`
`15:03.38`	`ccid`	`now, using agi exec(dial)`
`15:04.00`	`ccid`	`exec blocks, and I cant do any more processing until the first call is hung up`
`15:04.03`	`pardove`	`Has anybody used TDM2400 on 3.3V PCI slot?`
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`15:17.58`	`ccid`	`I guess the actual question is how to make exec(dial) non blocking`
`15:20.25`	`tzafrir`	`ccid, dial only when you have the number`
`15:21.06`	`ccid`	`tzafrir, I need to dial twice`
`15:21.19`	`ccid`	`first call to extension A`
`15:21.31`	`ccid`	`and if A answers, dial B`
`15:21.46`	`ccid`	`problem is, if a answers, dial blocks and I cant dial B`
`15:22.06`	`tzafrir`	`You'll only get into the dialplan when A answers.`
`15:22.21`	`tzafrir`	`hmmm`
`15:22.28`	`tzafrir`	`no, that is not correct`
`15:22.48`	`ccid`	`.. and im inside an agi script`
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`15:23.12`	`tzafrir`	`inside an AGI? how did you get into the AGI script?`
`15:23.46`	`ccid`	`when the inbound call is received, i call the agi script to do some mysql processing`
`15:24.05`	`ccid`	`and then have the same script dial out`
`15:24.17`	`ccid`	`which is probably what i should avoid`
`15:24.33`	`ccid`	`and just use agi to do mysql and drop back to the dialplan`
`15:25.23`	`mafkees`	`using the dial() command in the agi ?`
`15:25.31`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`you can do mysql from the dialplan, btw`
`15:26.01`	`mafkees`	`dial can be instructed to run a macro once the call is bridged`
`15:26.07`	`mafkees`	`maybe that's what you need`
`15:27.19`	`mafkees`	`Dial(SIP/someone,45,M(macroname^param1^param2))`
`15:27.24`	`mafkees`	`something like that`
`15:27.50`	`ccid`	`yeah, I will try that`
`15:28.03`	`ccid`	`I probably was expecting too much out of agi`
`15:28.16`	`ccid`	`this is what im using now`
`15:28.17`	`ccid`	`$str = $protoStr."/".$this->cbProviderLogin.":".$this->cbProviderPass."@".$this->cbProviderIP."/"."537";`
`15:28.17`	`ccid`	`$this->say("Routing to $this->cbProviderIP using $this->cbProviderLogin : $this->cbProviderPass");`
`15:28.17`	`ccid`	`$this->agi->exec("Dial", $str);`
`15:28.42`	`ccid`	`and the last instruction is a blocking instruction`
`15:28.51`	`ccid`	`so any further processing is invalid`
`15:28.59`	`ccid`	`not invalid, just .. cant do it`
`15:29.24`	`mafkees`	`or you can use the G() option`
`15:29.33`	`ccid`	`G?`
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`16:03.11`	`L\|NUX`	`hey every one`
`16:03.40`	`L\|NUX`	`can some one take a look into this and tell me why this is happening and what is the solution`
`16:03.41`	`L\|NUX`	`http://pastebin.ca/350601`
`16:03.57`	`L\|NUX`	`DSL Modem --> Cisco ATA --> Asterisk`
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`16:07.28`	`ManxPower`	`L\|NUX: I didn't know the Cisco ATAs have two ethernet ports`
`16:07.50`	`ManxPower`	`Perhaps you are missing some pieces from the diagram`
`16:08.18`	`L\|NUX`	`well`
`16:08.27`	`L\|NUX`	`i means to say`
`16:08.53`	`L\|NUX`	`DSL Modem --> Switch --> Cisco ATA`
`16:09.02`	`ManxPower`	`Where is Asterisk?`
`16:09.09`	`ManxPower`	`The DSL modem is doing NAT?`
`16:09.16`	`ManxPower`	`Does it also have a firewall?`
`16:09.26`	`L\|NUX`	`its in USA`
`16:09.29`	`L\|NUX`	`yeah`
`16:09.36`	`L\|NUX`	`well i have disabled Firewall`
`16:10.10`	`ManxPower`	`So what you REALLY mean is: Asterisk <-> NAT Router <-> Internet <-> DSL Modem/NAT <-> Cisco ATA`
`16:10.44`	`ManxPower`	`Since Asterisk not doing NAT and only has 1 network interface, that simplifies things quite a bit`
`16:10.49`	`L\|NUX`	`yeah`
`16:11.20`	`ManxPower`	`You are rapidly getting close to my "He's too lazy when troubleshooting for me to help" threshold.`
`16:11.44`	`L\|NUX`	`well you know`
`16:11.52`	`L\|NUX`	`we are using Real time`
`16:11.52`	`L\|NUX`	`:(`
`16:12.09`	`L\|NUX`	`and we do not even getting local extensions calls`
`16:12.15`	`ManxPower`	`I assume you have UDP ports 16384 - 32768 and 10,000 - 20,000 fortforwarded on the NAT ROUTER for asterisk, as well as using localnet= and externip=`
`16:12.44`	`L\|NUX`	`ok`
`16:12.46`	`L\|NUX`	`let me check`
`16:13.01`	`L\|NUX`	`it may dc me`
`16:13.02`	`L\|NUX`	`brb`
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`16:13.05`	`ManxPower`	`Dude, this is basic NAT config for Asterisk. Read the wiki, read the wook.`
`16:13.09`	`ManxPower`	`..er..book`
`16:14.29`	`RoyK`	`read the wook. read the biki`
`16:14.29`	`L\|NUX`	`lol`
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`16:15.41`	`ManxPower`	`L\|NUX: also, what is your Dial line for that extension?`
`16:16.25`	`L\|NUX`	`101033`
`16:16.27`	`L\|NUX`	`wait`
`16:17.03`	`L\|NUX`	`exten => _1XXXXX,1,Dial(SIP/${EXTEN},1000,tr)`
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`16:17.37`	`RoyK`	`that's one hell of a timeout`
`16:17.48`	`irracional`	`hola`
`16:18.13`	`RoyK`	`L\|NUX: if someone waits 18 minutes to get through, they deserve to have the opportunity to wait longer :)`
`16:18.35`	`L\|NUX`	`lol`
`16:18.36`	`L\|NUX`	`:)`
`16:18.39`	`L\|NUX`	`its just for testing`
`16:18.41`	`L\|NUX`	`because`
`16:18.43`	`L\|NUX`	`when i do call`
`16:18.49`	`L\|NUX`	`using 101033 to 101038`
`16:18.58`	`L\|NUX`	`it will go to voice mail after 3 minutes`
`16:19.13`	`RoyK`	`asteisk 1.4?`
`16:19.21`	`L\|NUX`	`1.2.15`
`16:19.32`	`L\|NUX`	`mysql> select defaultip,ipaddr,host from sip_buddies where name='101033';`
`16:19.32`	`L\|NUX`	`+-----------+----------------+---------+`
`16:19.32`	`L\|NUX`	`\| defaultip \| ipaddr \| host \|`
`16:19.33`	`L\|NUX`	`+-----------+----------------+---------+`
`16:19.33`	`L\|NUX`	`\| 0.0.0.0 \| 124.29.198.238 \| dynamic \|`
`16:19.33`	`L\|NUX`	`+-----------+----------------+---------+`
`16:19.40`	`irracional`	`holaer:-)`
`16:19.42`	`L\|NUX`	`have this in my sip_buddies`
`16:21.50`	`ManxPower`	`I cannot help you with realtime`
`16:21.57`	`ManxPower`	`it makes things much more complicated`
`16:22.02`	`canapa`	`i know this is not a debian channel, but i am having problems installing debian. does anyone here want to help maybe?`
`16:22.42`	`canapa`	`(yes it was thought to end up as an asterisk later, but without debian..? well)`
`16:24.38`	`Dovid`	`L\|NUX: ~pb`
`16:24.54`	`Dovid`	`L\|NUX: what issues r u having with realtime ?`
`16:25.50`	`Dovid`	`!pb`
`16:25.53`	`Dovid`	`~pb`
`16:25.55`	`jbot`	`well, pb is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste`
`16:26.10`	`L\|NUX`	`Dovid : okay`
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`16:31.41`	`Al_Berto`	`hi everyone. is there something like the g-flag to Dial() but for the calling party?`
`16:31.49`	`Al_Berto`	`(g - "When the called party hangs up, exit to execute more commands in the current context.")`
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`16:37.44`	`Assid`	`err.. anyone tried using a SonyEricsson p990 to work with sip ?`
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`16:41.04`	`LoRez`	`anybody familiar enough with the PAP2 to tell me why it's not sending the 'Authorization:' header in the REGISTER packet?`
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`16:43.20`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`canapa, #debian?`
`16:43.43`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`canapa, or is this anything specific to Asterisk?`
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`16:46.19`	`markit`	`hi, I've this message when calling FWD for the time/date test answer: "chan_iax2.c:6946 socket_process: Call rejected by 192.246.69.186: Unable to negotiate codec", how can I tell which codecs they tried to negotiate? I've 3 listed in iax.conf, fith ulaw being the last one, but listed... it sould work`
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`16:49.12`	`macTijn`	`markit: how did you list the codecs ?`
`16:49.42`	`ManxPower`	`markit: only allow 1 codec`
`16:50.50`	`markit`	`Ive 4 lines, the first "disallow all"`
`16:51.05`	`ManxPower`	`markit: well THAT won't work. It needs to be disallow=all`
`16:51.08`	`markit`	`then allow=gsm... the last allow=ulaw`
`16:51.20`	`markit`	`sorry, yes, is =all`
`16:51.32`	`ManxPower`	`markit: If you don't paste, we can't check for typoes`
`16:51.54`	`markit`	`ManxPower: you are right, but if I paste, I'm told to use pastebin, and I hate it`
`16:51.55`	`ManxPower`	`lets see, you said you are allowing 3 codecs, you have told us 2 of them.`
`16:51.58`	`Al_Berto`	`how can i execute something in a dialplan, if the caller hangs up before the call was answered?`
`16:52.10`	`ManxPower`	`Al_Berto: caller or callee`
`16:52.11`	`markit`	`because I've put there too many passwords and other secret stuf so far... :(`
`16:52.26`	`Al_Berto`	`the calling party`
`16:52.28`	`ManxPower`	`markit: OK. Not worth my time to help you then. Someone else can`
`16:52.35`	`macTijn`	`markit: then go over your paste before submitting :)`
`16:52.49`	`macTijn`	`markit: or make it a private paste on paste-it.net`
`16:52.57`	`macTijn`	`and only give the url to ManxPower`
`16:53.02`	`markit`	`http://www.pastebin.ca/350673`
`16:53.17`	`macTijn`	`hah`
`16:53.20`	`macTijn`	`I see a typo`
`16:53.25`	`macTijn`	`allow is with 2 l's`
`16:53.25`	`markit`	`macTijn: I really think pastebin should expire, not last forever, don't you?`
`16:53.33`	`markit`	`me also :((`
`16:53.33`	`ManxPower`	`see what I mean.`
`16:53.34`	`macTijn`	`markit: use paste-it.net :)`
`16:53.45`	`macTijn`	`markit: there's the ability to expire`
`16:53.48`	`markit`	`ok, I surrender, paste is needed for troubleshooting`
`16:54.00`	`macTijn`	`:)`
`16:54.05`	`macTijn`	`yes it is.`
`16:54.08`	`markit`	`macTijn: I've used pastebin.ca, but being in a hurry, often I forget to set the expiration`
`16:54.24`	`markit`	`ManxPower, macTijn thanks a lot :)`
`16:54.30`	`macTijn`	`markit: pit.paste-it.net might be a nice tool :)`
`16:54.38`	`ManxPower`	`I usually just set the password to something temporary then not worry about pasting them`
`16:54.42`	`markit`	`macTijn: I go to have a look`
`16:54.46`	`macTijn`	`markit: python-based command-line client for paste-it.net`
`16:55.29`	`macTijn`	`<- in the paste-it.net project group :)`
`16:55.31`	`markit`	`ManxPower: yes, but I've my working config, sometime I change that, or upgrade asterisk, or whatever, and if I get in troubles I ask help and often I'm required to pastebin`
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`16:55.46`	`markit`	`ManxPower: well, I can't ever remember where / what reserved info are there`
`16:56.24`	`markit`	`for instance, I just noticed yestrday that I set a variable with a password in the dialplan, and time ago i pasted the dialplan loading output... that showed the password, of course`
`16:56.39`	`markit`	`I mean, the Murphy law has no exception`
`16:56.59`	`markit`	`that's why I think pastebin should have an expiration date, except if set otherwise, not the opposite`
`16:57.45`	`macTijn`	`...then use paste-it.net :)`
`16:57.50`	`markit`	`macTijn: paste-it.net has "never" as default also`
`16:58.05`	`macTijn`	`markit: I always go over my pastes twice :)`
`16:58.23`	`macTijn`	`and "never" is the only sane default`
`16:58.30`	`macTijn`	`and I believe that setting is saved in a cookiw`
`16:58.33`	`macTijn`	`s/w/e/`
`16:58.41`	`macTijn`	`and if it's not, it will soon enough`
`16:59.19`	`markit`	`mmm interesting then`
`17:00.25`	`macTijn`	`heh`
`17:00.27`	`macTijn`	`damn`
`17:00.33`	`macTijn`	`microsoft people are dumbasses`
`17:00.38`	`macTijn`	`http://www.microsoft.com/athome/morefun/makemusic.mspx`
`17:00.47`	`macTijn`	`the bottom option :)`
`17:00.59`	`L\|NUX`	`hehe`
`17:01.15`	`macTijn`	`(iLife is osx-only)`
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`17:02.04`	`markit`	`strange, no software for GNU/Linux listed there... lol`
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`17:11.44`	`rue_mohr`	`this time for a T1`
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`17:16.46`	`RoyK`	`rue_mohr: rtfwiki http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/crossover+T1+cable`
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`17:25.45`	`MattPayne`	`Howdy! I'm new. I'd like to write a IVR where customers call to get the status of their orders. Clerks in the shop will use a web based interface to update customer records.`
`17:25.53`	`MattPayne`	`Where's a good place to get started?`
`17:26.06`	`Dovid`	`MattPayne: voip-info.org`
`17:26.07`	`MattPayne`	`Can I please buy some A* time somewhere instead of getting my own server setup?`
`17:26.11`	`Dovid`	`have a look at ago''s`
`17:26.29`	`Dovid`	`agi's*`
`17:26.39`	`Dovid`	`MattPayne: sent PM`
`17:26.54`	`mafkees`	`~wiki`
`17:27.15`	`mafkees`	`hhmm`
`17:27.17`	`mafkees`	`lol`
`17:27.44`	`Dovid`	`http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+AGI`
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`17:30.08`	`rue_mohr`	`RoyK, yup, thanks, got that`
`17:32.39`	`RoyK`	`~wtf`
`17:33.24`	`rue_mohr`	`the T1 rossover link`
`17:33.57`	`RoyK`	`yeah`
`17:34.04`	`RoyK`	`rowover link`
`17:34.17`	`rue_mohr`	`still waking up`
`17:34.33`	`The_DoC^`	`anyone need a couple Mylex DAC960 Raid controllers?`
`17:35.12`	`CrashHD`	`hey guys I got a phone that isn't registering over a vpn link....(registered fine yesterday)...system shows it briefly registers then gets dropped for some reason (two phones doing this, 10 phones on site, 8 working just fine, all setup the same)`
`17:35.13`	`CrashHD`	`http://www.pastebin.ca/350705`
`17:35.15`	`CrashHD`	`any ideas?`
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`17:38.06`	`Assid`	`if its registering with vpn ip.. why is it trying the internet ip`
`17:38.18`	`CrashHD`	`public ip is routed over vpn`
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`17:38.45`	`CrashHD`	`70.103.254.0/24 goes over the vpn`
`17:38.46`	`Assid`	`on the * box.. you see it registering?`
`17:38.50`	`MrTelephone`	`hi, is there a no frills area code csv?`
`17:39.01`	`CrashHD`	`ya it is trying to register`
`17:39.06`	`CrashHD`	`if you look at that pastebin`
`17:39.20`	`MrTelephone`	`I'm looking for country code and possible as detailed as city, if available`
`17:39.23`	`Assid`	`my sip debugging is kind of bad honestly`
`17:40.04`	`Assid`	`CrashHD: ping 10.0.6.158 from your * box`
`17:40.13`	`CrashHD`	`pings perfectly`
`17:40.23`	`Assid`	`and your pinging the sip device`
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`17:40.39`	`CrashHD`	`traffic goes back and forth between asterisk and phone just fine`
`17:42.08`	`rue_mohr`	`ok, I have the TE110, the crossover cable, and the channelbank, now all I need are some zaptel drivers :)`
`17:42.35`	`Assid`	`dontr know what to say.`
`17:44.04`	`rue_mohr`	`well, as it is early morning, I need to have a shower`
`17:44.10`	`rue_mohr`	`and brekfast`
`17:44.28`	`rue_mohr`	`cant play with asterisk all morning`
`17:45.34`	`MrTelephone`	`damn`
`17:45.50`	`MrTelephone`	`noone knows where to get an area code list for north america? Is that something you usually pay for?`
`17:45.58`	`MrTelephone`	`it's like 300 bucks for the world or something`
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`17:46.45`	`Qwell`	`MrTelephone: ...first hit on google - http://www.nanpa.com/area_codes/index.html`
`17:47.20`	`LoRez`	`man... linksys support is pretty crappy`
`17:47.32`	`LoRez`	`MrTelephone: google for 'npa nxx'`
`17:47.39`	`MrTelephone`	`I was hoping maybe there was a free one made by asterisk community`
`17:47.53`	`ccid`	`MrTelephone, yeah, you can probably import it pretty easily from a website`
`17:48.10`	`Qwell`	`I just...gave you...a link`
`17:48.11`	`MrTelephone`	`ok`
`17:48.13`	`MrTelephone`	`thanks guys`
`17:48.15`	`MrTelephone`	`I'll check it out`
`17:48.20`	`baldhead`	`Hi! I'm a novice here and not used to IRC at all. May I ask a question about a problem that I have with asterisk?`
`17:48.20`	`ccid`	`i dont have US, but can give you south and central america in a mysql dump file`
`17:48.31`	`blitzrage`	`rue_mohr: asterisk is more important than smelling good or eating well :)`
`17:48.32`	`MrTelephone`	`I'm developing NCS/chan_mgcp ITSP solution`
`17:48.39`	`MrTelephone`	`im just working on the billing part`
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`17:51.03`	`baldhead`	`I get "Auto-congesting call due to slow response" when i try to place a call with voipjet over IAX. Someone got an idea why?`
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`17:52.22`	`Qwell`	`LoRez: Thank you. It will come back however.`
`17:52.28`	`MrTelephone`	`what do you call the ZZZ part of a number in XXX-ZZZ-0000`
`17:52.39`	`jpe-nyc`	`prefix`
`17:53.17`	`ccid`	`npa nxx?`
`17:53.17`	`Qwell`	`MrTelephone: prefix or NXX, if you call XXX the NPA`
`17:54.28`	`MrTelephone`	`yeah the NPA`
`17:54.38`	`MrTelephone`	`that is just North America I take it`
`17:54.42`	`Qwell`	`NPA ~= "areacode"`
`17:54.46`	`Qwell`	`NXX ~= "prefix"`
`17:54.52`	`MrTelephone`	`ahhh`
`17:54.53`	`MrTelephone`	`k`
`17:55.00`	`Qwell`	`~nxx`
`17:55.03`	`MrTelephone`	`Qwell I appreciate the tutoring`
`17:55.18`	`Qwell`	`should get Strom to feed the bot...`
`17:56.29`	`danp`	`http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Numbering_Plan perhaps`
`17:57.12`	`LoRez`	`these guys have no clue wtf is wrong with this PAP2T`
`17:57.30`	`Qwell`	`LoRez: is it an NA?`
`17:57.36`	`LoRez`	`Qwell: yes`
`17:57.40`	`Qwell`	`ahh`
`17:57.48`	`Qwell`	`what's it (not?) doing?`
`17:57.57`	`LoRez`	`one indian woman tried to tell me to call vonage.`
`17:58.02`	`Qwell`	`heh`
`17:58.09`	`LoRez`	`it's not sending the Authorization header in the REGISTER packet`
`17:58.09`	`MrTelephone`	`http://www.cnac.ca/npa_codes/npa_map.htm`
`17:58.11`	`MrTelephone`	`for Canada`
`17:58.38`	`MrTelephone`	`I work with indians`
`17:58.46`	`LoRez`	`I'm sorry. ;)`
`17:58.56`	`MrTelephone`	`no problem`
`17:58.57`	`LoRez`	`not these I hope`
`17:58.59`	`MrTelephone`	`where you from?`
`17:59.03`	`LoRez`	`the US.`
`17:59.05`	`MrTelephone`	`ahh`
`17:59.11`	`MrTelephone`	`I work with a nicer indian community`
`17:59.15`	`MrTelephone`	`but some of them are hay wire`
`17:59.21`	`Qwell`	`LoRez: So, what's the discussion inside freenode been about Bhaal this morning? :P`
`17:59.32`	`LoRez`	`there's been none.`
`17:59.38`	`Qwell`	`pity`
`17:59.48`	`LoRez`	`nobody's around.`
`17:59.53`	`rue_mohr`	`blitzrage, possibly, but the process wakes me up so I can think clearly`
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`18:00.18`	`ManxPower`	`In French what "gender" would a PRI be?`
`18:00.32`	`Qwell`	`ManxPower: is that a rhetorical question?`
`18:00.33`	`ManxPower`	`and does it matter if I wrote "Viva le PRI!"`
`18:00.43`	`LoRez`	`heh, again, "your service provider must support this"`
`18:01.00`	`Qwell`	`LoRez: "I get my voips from linksys"`
`18:01.11`	`Qwell`	`make certain to add the "s"`
`18:01.31`	`ManxPower`	`If I'm going to make silly comments in config files on foreign languages, at least they can be grammatically correct 8-)`
`18:01.49`	`rue_mohr`	`ManxPower, :)`
`18:02.10`	`PakiPenguin_`	`how do i limit a sip user to one call only`
`18:02.21`	`Qwell`	`PakiPenguin_: call-limit=1`
`18:02.27`	`ManxPower`	`Well thanks for the help everyone`
`18:02.33`	`PakiPenguin_`	`thanks Qwell`
`18:02.53`	`blitzrage`	`ManxPower: I'd be tempted to use Vive la PRI`
`18:03.00`	`blitzrage`	`not too sure why though :)`
`18:03.04`	`Qwell`	`I was thinking la too`
`18:03.38`	`blitzrage`	`PakiPenguin_: remember you won't be able to use attended transfers on that device`
`18:03.45`	`PakiPenguin_`	`yeah`
`18:03.52`	`blitzrage`	`Vive la Qwell ! :D`
`18:03.58`	`Qwell`	`hey!`
`18:04.18`	`blitzrage`	`hey yourself`
`18:04.29`	`LoRez`	`Qwell: the device pretty much has to send the Authorization header in the first REGISTER packet, doesn't it?`
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`18:04.40`	`ManxPower`	`I'm sure the cajun tech will correct the spelling`
`18:04.59`	`Qwell`	`LoRez: I want to say that it only sends it if the other end requests it after the first packet`
`18:05.06`	`Qwell`	`but, I know very very little about SIP`
`18:05.18`	`LoRez`	`hrm, well, I'm getting a service unavailable from them instead`
`18:05.28`	`ManxPower`	`LoRez: no. As I understand it, it can send no auth stuff with the first packet, asterisk rejects the register and replys with "requires registration", then the device registers with the auth info.`
`18:05.41`	`blitzrage`	`ManxPower: in a 401 Unavailble I think`
`18:05.50`	`Qwell`	`what they said ^^`
`18:05.50`	`ManxPower`	`LoRez: What is the ACTUAL error message?`
`18:05.56`	`ManxPower`	`like the one in the CLI?`
`18:05.56`	`blitzrage`	`if it works like an INVITE where you get 407 Proxy Auth. Required`
`18:06.31`	`LoRez`	`ManxPower: ironically, my broadvoice account seems to work fine with *.`
`18:06.50`	`ManxPower`	`LoRez: did you look at a packet tracte for the working account?`
`18:07.37`	`LoRez`	`ManxPower: yeah, and it seems to behave like you said.`
`18:08.00`	`LoRez`	`but, it's the same account. I dunno why they're sending a 501 back to the PAP2T when it contacts them directly`
`18:08.45`	`LoRez`	`anyway... since apparently * will talk to BV, I suppose I can just set the PAP2T up to talk to * now`
`18:09.54`	`ManxPower`	`LoRez: so you get NO non-debug message on the console?`
`18:10.37`	`Qwell`	`no, that isn't suggestive at all`
`18:10.48`	`LoRez`	`ManxPower: * talks to BV just fine. I was talking about the PAP2T-NA`
`18:11.13`	`PakiPenguin_`	`what does tell me ( 1-800-555-tellme) uses for voice recognition?`
`18:11.23`	`ManxPower`	`"A registration server, also know as a registrar, accepts SIP REGISTER requests; all other requests receive a 501 Not Implemented response."`
`18:11.33`	`LoRez`	`from * I get chan_sip.c:11045 handle_request_register: Registration from '<sip:100@asterisk>' failed for 'pap2t' - Username/auth name mismatch`
`18:11.49`	`LoRez`	`I wasn't getting a Not Implemented.`
`18:11.51`	`baldhead`	`Can anyone help me with the "Auto-congesting call due to slow response" problem?`
`18:12.02`	`ManxPower`	`LoRez: do you have a [pap2t] entry in sip.conf?`
`18:12.12`	`LoRez`	`I was getting a "Service Not Available"`
`18:12.33`	`L\|NUX`	`Qwell : arround`
`18:12.37`	`ManxPower`	`LoRez: I can't imagine why. The PAP does not have a CLI`
`18:12.55`	`LoRez`	`ManxPower: is english not your native tongue?`
`18:13.07`	`LoRez`	`I never said I was getting the response on the CLI.`
`18:13.11`	`L\|NUX`	`Qwell : can you take a look into my problem`
`18:13.13`	`ManxPower`	`LoRez: Lack of sleep is not my native tongue.`
`18:13.15`	`L\|NUX`	`Qwell : http://pastebin.ca/350601`
`18:13.34`	`ManxPower`	`LoRez: what I don't understand where you are getting the "service not available"`
`18:13.47`	`LoRez`	`ManxPower: I was sniffing the wire.`
`18:13.56`	`ManxPower`	`LoRez: that is helpful to know.`
`18:14.28`	`ManxPower`	`LoRez: did you know that the [stuffinhere] in sip.conf is what asterisk expects the device to send as its username?`
`18:15.06`	`ManxPower`	`LoRez: Any reason you are having the PAP2 register to the provider instead of Asterisk doing it and having the PAP register to Asterisk?`
`18:15.21`	`ManxPower`	`baldhead: that means the far end did not respond to the call setup request`
`18:15.44`	`LoRez`	`ManxPower: I figured making it speak directly would be easier. apparently that's not the case.`
`18:16.20`	`baldhead`	`ManxPower: Thanks. Hmm. So either I'm talking to the wrong host or it's a problem on the other peers side?`
`18:16.28`	`ManxPower`	`LoRez: sometimes it can help, but not usually -- asterisk is easier to debug than an embedded device.`
`18:16.48`	`ManxPower`	`baldhead: that would be my guess.`
`18:18.50`	`baldhead`	`ManxPower: Either seems to be unlikely because the registration process succeeds (it fails if i alter the password), so I must be talking to the correct host. I also doubt that it's an issue with the peers side, because I'm having this for days. Any idea what I could try?`
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`18:21.23`	`LoRez`	`interesting. now I'm getting a 404 from asterisk.`
`18:24.20`	`trelane`	`LoRez, what are you trying to do?`
`18:25.01`	`ManxPower`	`LoRez: 404 means "extension not found"`
`18:25.20`	`ManxPower`	`it usually means you have a context issue or an username issue`
`18:25.53`	`ManxPower`	`Asterisk is a PBX slut. It will accept most any SIP call, if it does not match anything then whatever is in [general] will be used.`
`18:26.47`	`Dovid`	`ManxPower: he will need an s exten in his default context, and btw that was sweet of u to call my g-d a slut :(`
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`18:27.12`	`LoRez`	`trelane: get my pap2t-na to talk to *`
`18:27.48`	`trelane`	`LoRez, have you pastebinned the connection block in sip.conf yet? could be as easy as a context mismatch based on the error above`
`18:27.58`	`ManxPower`	`Dovid: no, he will not as exten => s is only matched when there is NO incoming number.`
`18:28.03`	`trelane`	`I havn't used a pap2t but I have used the spa2002`
`18:28.16`	`ManxPower`	`Dovid: OK. "Asterisk is generous and friendly about accepting incoming calls"`
`18:28.18`	`Dovid`	`trur`
`18:28.20`	`Dovid`	`true*`
`18:28.26`	`LoRez`	`it would probably be more helpful to get a connection block pastebinned at me :)`
`18:29.05`	`trelane`	`LoRez, we have no idea what you have set in the pap2t as of now, or we would ;)`
`18:29.12`	`ManxPower`	`About the only time you don't get a destination number is from analog FXO ports or crappy ITSPs`
`18:29.27`	`LoRez`	`trelane: username is pap2t-1 password is 'password'`
`18:29.44`	`ManxPower`	`LoRez: you hace a [pap2t-1] section in sip.conf?`
`18:29.59`	`trelane`	`ok, change the username to 100 in the pap2t`
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`18:29.59`	`ManxPower`	`If so, what is the context= line for it?`
`18:30.19`	`trelane`	`ManxPower, I'm trying to get the pap to sync with asterisk instead of vice-versa (so that the rest of the config works)`
`18:30.22`	`ManxPower`	`and does that context= have a matching extension in that context in extensions.conf`
`18:30.48`	`ManxPower`	`trelane: that is the opposite of what I do 8-)`
`18:31.16`	`trelane`	`ManxPower, we can take it outside later, lets make his phone ring first ;)`
`18:31.48`	`LoRez`	`trelane: ironically, I haven't purchased an actual phone yet ;)`
`18:32.12`	`LoRez`	`no, I don't have the context set up yet`
`18:32.59`	`LoRez`	`well, I have a 'default' context set up like broadvoice suggested.`
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`18:33.30`	`Qwell`	`Strom_M: telus?`
`18:33.41`	`Strom_M`	`indeed`
`18:33.48`	`Strom_M`	`i'm in british columbia`
`18:33.56`	`Qwell`	`why? :p`
`18:34.04`	`Strom_M`	`went skiing in whistler`
`18:34.43`	`ManxPower`	`Strom_M: Break a leg! Oh, nevermind, that is for theater not skiing.`
`18:34.49`	`Strom_M`	`heh`
`18:35.09`	`Strom_M`	`i was planning on skiing today too, but i hurt my foot yesterday`
`18:35.46`	`trelane`	`LoRez, please please please, go read *:TFOT (or purchase a copy!) there's a lot yet to learn`
`18:36.13`	`Dovid`	`Lorez:`
`18:36.14`	`Dovid`	`!book`
`18:36.23`	`LoRez`	`that didn't work :)`
`18:36.29`	`Strom_M`	`~book`
`18:36.37`	`jbot`	`methinks book is a book called Asterisk: The Future of Telephony which is found at http://www.asteriskdocs.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=11`
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`18:53.55`	`Vec`	`Is it a good idea to run asterisk with 'nice' to set it to the highest priority, top stop other system resources such as databases from sapping resources ?`
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`18:56.18`	`ManxPower`	`Vec: see the -p option to Asterisk`
`18:57.00`	`rue_mohr`	`sweet, he came through with the newbridge manuals! yes!`
`18:57.08`	`ManxPower`	`at least I think it is the "-p" option. I just use /etc/rc.d/init.d/asterisk and it sets the priority for me`
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`19:02.58`	`Vec`	`ManxPower : ran it with -p but does not seem to change the priority, when I run top it show the priority.`
`19:03.11`	`Vec`	`ManxPower : what priority number do u use ?`
`19:03.32`	`ManxPower`	`<PROTECTED>`
`19:03.32`	`ManxPower`	`<PROTECTED>`
`19:03.32`	`ManxPower`	`<PROTECTED>`
`19:03.32`	`ManxPower`	`<PROTECTED>`
`19:03.35`	`ManxPower`	`from the man page.`
`19:03.52`	`ManxPower`	`If you want to know more, look at the source code.`
`19:04.20`	`Vec`	`ManxPower : not sure if my kernal supports -p maybe it does, thanks`
`19:04.55`	`ManxPower`	`Vec: are you running Asterisk as root?`
`19:05.16`	`ManxPower`	`-p would be supported on Linux`
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`19:07.51`	`Vec`	`ManxPower : yeh, I wonder if there is a way to check, using ps etc`
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`19:11.02`	`rue_mohr`	`hmm, this T1 channelbank dosn't seem too simple from the manual`
`19:12.35`	`ManxPower`	`Gawd I hate Mardi Gras`
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`19:13.59`	`RoyK`	`ManxPower: -p is madness`
`19:16.34`	`ManxPower`	`RoyK: So was voting for George Bush, but millions of people did.`
`19:16.34`	`rue_mohr`	`off the top of your head, anyone know what the LGE and the LGS stand for on the channelbank modules?`
`19:17.38`	`RoyK`	`ManxPower: I'm just stating my meanings. -p will make the whole box hang if, or rather, when, asterisk fucks up`
`19:20.17`	`ManxPower`	`RoyK: I've not had Asterisk lock the box in a very long time`
`19:20.40`	`sweeper`	`ManxPower: are you in town for it, or are you just suffering from local parades?`
`19:21.17`	`ManxPower`	`sweeper: The damn telco was late installing the PRI for a customer near New Orleans. I was supposed to be out of town by now.`
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`19:21.27`	`ttuttle`	`What does "A to Z" VoIP mean?`
`19:21.32`	`sweeper`	`ManxPower: timewarner or bell?`
`19:21.34`	`RoyK`	`ManxPower: I've seen that lots of times. it will happen. gambling it won't will fuckup your box`
`19:21.45`	`ManxPower`	`sweeper: I-55/XFone. They are usually pretty good.`
`19:21.49`	`sweeper`	`ah`
`19:22.08`	`sweeper`	`timewarner is VERY nice with us, but we've had nothing but grief from bell`
`19:22.28`	`sweeper`	`can't even get fucking SIGNALLING PARAMETERS out of them`
`19:22.28`	`ManxPower`	`we try to not use bell when we have a choice.`
`19:22.48`	`ManxPower`	`sweeper: I have the cell phone number of the I-55 switch tech for New Orleans 8-)`
`19:22.50`	`sweeper`	`we're contracted to them for our pbx, but that will hopefully be going away soon :D`
`19:23.17`	`sweeper`	`<PROTECTED>`
`19:23.42`	`ManxPower`	`I would not want to piss him off.`
`19:23.48`	`sweeper`	`ah`
`19:24.05`	`sweeper`	`well, google will do, I suppose`
`19:26.42`	`sweeper`	`like, the only AGI variable it seems to allow access to is callerid :/`
`19:27.12`	`ManxPower`	`sweeper: variables you set or dialplan viarables?`
`19:27.37`	`sweeper`	`ManxPower: the ones agi passes to the script when it calls it`
`19:27.50`	`sweeper`	`AGI Tx >> agi_context: default`
`19:27.51`	`sweeper`	`AGI Tx >> agi_extension: 1234`
`19:27.53`	`sweeper`	`like so`
`19:28.16`	`sweeper`	`the source code claims I should be able to do @params[RAGI::EXTENSION]`
`19:28.25`	`sweeper`	`@params[RAGI::CALLERID] works fine`
`19:29.02`	`ManxPower`	`sweeper: just for the heck of it before calling the RAGI do a Set(__MY_TEST=${EXTEN})`
`19:29.21`	`ManxPower`	`sweeper: and it would be @params[RAGI::EXTEN] wouldn't it?`
`19:29.29`	`sweeper`	`:v`
`19:29.34`	`sweeper`	`could be >.>`
`19:30.08`	`sweeper`	`[2007-02-12 02:39:53] ERROR NameError: uninitialized constant RAGI::EXTEN`
`19:30.10`	`sweeper`	`nope`
`19:32.13`	`ManxPower`	`Try my set statement then try to access it as MY_TEST without the leading double _`
`19:32.26`	`sweeper`	`doesn't work either`
`19:32.44`	`ManxPower`	`sweeper: you need to seriously reconsider RAGI. 8-)`
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`19:33.11`	`sweeper`	`:P`
`19:33.23`	`sweeper`	`well, there's always url parameter passing`
`19:33.47`	`markit`	`hi, I've seen in CLI this message: "app_voicemail.c:6781 vm_exec: Prefixing the mailbox with an option is deprecated ('u111')", but VoiceMail description in the wiki does not provide alternative settings, nor mention is deprecated... any clue?`
`19:34.00`	`sweeper`	`but I can't find an explicit statement in the source to allow CALLERID, so I'm probably missing something`
`19:34.42`	`ManxPower`	`markit: the wiki is NOT the first place to look for information on applications.`
`19:34.50`	`ManxPower`	`The FIRST place is "show application appname"`
`19:34.54`	`ManxPower`	`in the Asterisk CLI`
`19:35.14`	`markit`	`ah, thanks ManxPower`
`19:35.29`	`sweeper`	`mmm`
`19:35.39`	`sweeper`	`I guess I could do the logical thing, and dump params :P`
`19:35.56`	`markit`	`yes, I see the new syntax now, thanks`
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`19:50.34`	`sweeper`	`har. stoooopid RAGI devs`
`19:50.47`	`sweeper`	`I dunno why the hell RAGI::CALLERID works`
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`19:51.14`	`sweeper`	`but the way to get at everything is @params["agi_extension"], etc`
`19:53.46`	`ManxPower`	`sweeper: I'll bet agi_callerid would work too.`
`19:54.03`	`sweeper`	`oh, I know it will`
`19:54.16`	`sweeper`	`it's in the params hash as such`
`19:54.58`	`sweeper`	`but for the life of me, I can't locate the code that makes RAGI::CALLERID work in the source`
`19:57.39`	`ManxPower`	`sweeper: remember CALLERID is a dialplan variable, so most other dialplan variable should be accessable as well.`
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`19:57.39`	`sweeper`	`mmmmm`
`19:57.40`	`sweeper`	`I don't think so, in this case`
`19:57.44`	`sweeper`	`unless I`
`19:57.47`	`sweeper`	`I'm missing a source file that handles that`
`19:58.30`	`sweeper`	`at any rate, I now have an application that does call following based on shifts or 9-5 workers, and even takes vacations into account \o/`
`19:59.13`	`FuriousGeorge`	`i couldnt build zaptel 1.2.13 so i used 1.2.12. that's not gonna be an issue, is it?`
`19:59.36`	`sweeper`	`FuriousGeorge: "couldn't build"?`
`20:01.26`	`ManxPower`	`FuriousGeorge: so the fix that was talked about on asterisk users TODAY did not help?`
`20:02.01`	`FuriousGeorge`	`this was at 6:am us eastern time, i didnt see anything on asterisk today. iw as getting something about passing an invalid element to a struct`
`20:02.10`	`mafkees`	`hhmm`
`20:02.19`	`ManxPower`	`With the subject of Re: [asterisk-users] Can not compile latest zaptel -1.2.13`
`20:02.28`	`mafkees`	`anyone interested in a pastebin with extensions.conf syntax highlighting ?`
`20:02.45`	`ManxPower`	`FuriousGeorge: yup, that was the problem and the fix was posted.,`
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`20:06.02`	`FuriousGeorge`	`ManxPower: yeah thats it. funny, i was talking about this with tzafrir this morning. you guys work fast`
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`20:08.21`	`mafkees`	`hhmm, no interest eh`
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`20:10.02`	`sweeper`	`arg`
`20:18.05`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`FuriousGeorge, well, it was an easy one. And no: it wasn't left in intetionally`
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`20:38.37`	`AJaymn`	`Anyone know where to buy ATA's inexpensive? maybe even refurbs? rebuilt?`
`20:41.30`	`Dovid`	`u can try voipsupply`
`20:41.38`	`Dovid`	`or telephonydepot.com`
`20:41.44`	`Dovid`	`the later is cheaper`
`20:43.31`	`AJaymn`	`no one selling refurbs? I hate spending $40 a peice :P`
`20:45.31`	`Bobthehunter`	`yes`
`20:45.39`	`Bobthehunter`	`i can get them cheap for 50 +`
`20:46.11`	`putzz`	`$40 a piece thats not bad`
`20:46.13`	`Bobthehunter`	`could be around 30$`
`20:46.18`	`Bobthehunter`	`maybe less`
`20:46.37`	`ManxPower`	`AJaymn: being cheap will cause you problems.`
`20:46.38`	`markit`	`AJaymn: I've seen a 8 FXS port for around 200 euros, I think is a grandstream one`
`20:46.46`	`putzz`	`I bought 10 of them from ebay for $230`
`20:46.48`	`ManxPower`	`The real question is do you really need ATAs?`
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`20:46.56`	`Bobthehunter`	`nah fleaybe is bad ;)`
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`20:48.11`	`ManxPower`	`Anyone that complains about $40 for an ATA has never had to purchase PBX phones.`
`20:48.33`	`ManxPower`	`The phones for our Nortel PBX are somewhere around $250/each`
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`20:51.49`	`linagee_`	`how is the lag of asterisk over satellite (direcPC)?`
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`20:52.06`	`linagee_`	`is the phone quality usable, or beyond sucks?`
`20:52.16`	`ManxPower`	`linagee_: don't even try it`
`20:52.31`	`ManxPower`	`linagee_: do you know what the latency and jitter are over HughesNet/DirecTC?`
`20:52.31`	`linagee_`	`ManxPower: if it's a remote african jungle?`
`20:52.36`	`ManxPower`	`..er..DirecPC`
`20:52.39`	`J4k3`	`80-1100ms`
`20:52.43`	`J4k3`	`err 800-1100ms`
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`20:52.50`	`Vec`	`Even if canreinvite is set to yes, does asterisk still keep relativly accurate billing, i,e does the phone notify asterisk when the call ends, when dealing with SIP and IAX ?`
`20:52.51`	`linagee_`	`ManxPower: what's the better choice? run fiber cable along the jungle floor, or try wifi to wifi to wifi`
`20:52.53`	`J4k3`	`1300 ms at a bad moment.`
`20:53.04`	`ManxPower`	`linagee_: cell phone or Irridium`
`20:53.11`	`ManxPower`	`or VSAT`
`20:53.26`	`ManxPower`	`My latency on DirecPC is 800ms - 3000ms.`
`20:53.34`	`linagee_`	`ManxPower: cell phone to asterisk box? can't asterisk talk GSM or something?`
`20:53.38`	`J4k3`	`wow, they're oversold to the 3 second point now?! :)`
`20:53.42`	`ManxPower`	`3000ms is THREE SECONDS`
`20:54.00`	`Dovid[Laptop]`	`linagee_: asterisk can with the right equipment`
`20:54.03`	`ManxPower`	`J4k3: that' s usually when I'm actually using the link for something.`
`20:54.16`	`ManxPower`	`linagee_: no, cell phone to a cell company`
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`20:54.58`	`linagee_`	`ManxPower: if you can get cell signal, why would setting up wifi repeaters everywhere be a problem? hrm`
`20:55.35`	`Dovid[Laptop]`	`linagee_: what r u trying to accomplih ?`
`20:55.43`	`Dovid[Laptop]`	`acomplish*`
`20:56.22`	`linagee_`	`Dovid: someone here at SCALE asked me about using asterisk in a jungle environment`
`20:56.26`	`linagee_`	`with satellite`
`20:56.39`	`linagee_`	`i was like, uhm.... you might be able to, but you probably won't be happy with the result`
`20:56.39`	`Dovid[Laptop]`	`ah. fun fun - cant help there`
`20:56.47`	`Dovid[Laptop]`	`it wouldnt be hard`
`20:56.48`	`ManxPower`	`linagee_: you would want "VSAT" it is expensive, but has realistic latency`
`20:56.57`	`Dovid[Laptop]`	`if u can find a way to make it work like a pot sline`
`20:57.11`	`linagee_`	`ManxPower: this is different from off the shelf direcpc/direcway or some such?`
`20:57.34`	`ManxPower`	`linagee_: DirecWay is consumer. VSAT is what corporations use.`
`20:57.49`	`ManxPower`	`What corporations use for data and voice.`
`20:58.03`	`linagee_`	`ManxPower: i'm wondering what's so bad about renting out a chopper and just dropping redundant fiber lines over the top of the jungle. lol`
`20:58.05`	`linagee_`	`hahaha`
`20:58.05`	`linagee_`	`:-D`
`20:59.50`	`ManxPower`	`linagee_: When I want to SSH, I switch to my Verizon 1xRTT PCMCIA card rather than use the DirecWay link.`
`21:00.00`	`ManxPower`	`Those are my only options other than dial up where I live.`
`21:00.10`	`linagee_`	`ManxPower: ??? why not use the card for everything then?`
`21:00.19`	`ManxPower`	`And yes, SSH over dialup is better than SSH over DirecWay`
`21:00.36`	`ManxPower`	`linagee_: DirecWay is high latency, but also much faster.`
`21:00.56`	`ManxPower`	`so for stuff that doesn't care about latency like FTP, SCP, HTTP, etc it is fine.`
`21:01.12`	`J4k3`	`ManxPower: http over satellite is slower than dialup in my experience these days.`
`21:01.16`	`J4k3`	`for average page loads`
`21:01.31`	`ManxPower`	`J4k3: not when you have 15 people sharing the link 8-)`
`21:01.43`	`J4k3`	`especially if you use one of those graphic-compressing accelerators. Its not like I wanna see ANOTHER picture of anna nicole smith in full quality.`
`21:01.46`	`linagee_`	`wait, vsat is 75 to 100 ms faster than direcWay's 575ms to 700ms`
`21:01.54`	`linagee_`	`that's not much faster. heh`
`21:02.09`	`J4k3`	`ManxPower: ok, true.... but for 15 people I think I'd be trying to figure out how to get some more folks and pay for a t1 ;)`
`21:02.16`	`ManxPower`	`linagee_: direcway's real world latency is 800ms on up`
`21:02.20`	`J4k3`	`nothing like 6 ms vs 3000 ms.`
`21:02.23`	`linagee_`	`ManxPower: yikes`
`21:02.34`	`linagee_`	`ManxPower: i thought it's not the latency that kills you but the jitter`
`21:02.34`	`ManxPower`	`J4k3: working on it, maybe by the end of the summer`
`21:02.48`	`ManxPower`	`linagee_: it's not, but the two can be related.`
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`21:02.57`	`J4k3`	`latency makes the conversation totally suck`
`21:03.03`	`linagee_`	`ManxPower: this is not the latency you'd experience on the call, right? it would be much more?`
`21:03.05`	`J4k3`	`jitter makes it break up`
`21:03.08`	`ManxPower`	`linagee_: with VSAT it's basically like a high latency T-1, i.e. you can put QoS on the ends of it.`
`21:03.20`	`J4k3`	`ever talked over a randomly super-laggy cellular connection?`
`21:03.29`	`linagee_`	`ManxPower: and with direcway?`
`21:03.36`	`J4k3`	`ie - the echo canceler goes nuts or gets overloaded`
`21:03.47`	`ManxPower`	`linagee_: with direcway it's like a generic internet connection, you share the bandwidth with everyone in north america`
`21:03.48`	`J4k3`	`well`
`21:03.50`	`J4k3`	`heres the thing`
`21:03.55`	`J4k3`	`theres the speed of light`
`21:04.02`	`linagee_`	`ManxPower: oh great. sounds like an excellent place for jitter`
`21:04.03`	`J4k3`	`and theres the geosynchronous satellites`
`21:04.18`	`linagee_`	`ManxPower: hey. hah`
`21:04.21`	`J4k3`	`which are 27,500 miles above the equator. higher/lower latitudes are even farther.`
`21:04.28`	`J4k3`	`speed of light is about 150,000 miles/second`
`21:04.34`	`ManxPower`	`linagee_: I suppose you are not old enough to remember international calling before fiber was run eveywhere?`
`21:04.35`	`linagee_`	`ManxPower: i said wifi and they were like, "no, we don't want to have large support structures" (not sure why not)`
`21:04.40`	`linagee_`	`ManxPower: what about wifi by balloon? hahaha`
`21:04.43`	`linagee_`	`yes`
`21:04.44`	`linagee_`	`:-D`
`21:04.53`	`ManxPower`	`linagee_: I have 2 weather baloons for sale.`
`21:04.56`	`linagee_`	`(to get over the jungle capony)`
`21:05.18`	`linagee_`	`ManxPower: i'm thinking wifi is going to be a much much better option`
`21:05.20`	`J4k3`	`my 150' rohn 25 tower requires about 3 hours/year of maintenance.`
`21:05.23`	`ManxPower`	`linagee_: VSAT can sound like a standard telco international call sent via telco satellite.`
`21:05.28`	`J4k3`	`the actual structure maintenance`
`21:05.28`	`linagee_`	`likely you can get a T1 and even PRIs in town`
`21:05.37`	`J4k3`	`long-term maintenance on light duty towers is fairly cheap.`
`21:05.38`	`linagee_`	`even if it's in BFE`
`21:05.47`	`J4k3`	`you can get a T1 anywhere.`
`21:05.53`	`Dovid`	`lol`
`21:05.54`	`J4k3`	`PRI service will depend on the CO`
`21:05.59`	`linagee_`	`hmm`
`21:06.03`	`Dovid`	`iwill run a T for u to any where in the world`
`21:06.04`	`J4k3`	`T1 = telco repeats it every 1200 meters or so.`
`21:06.18`	`Dovid`	`for a billion USD ;)`
`21:06.20`	`J4k3`	`theres no degradation in performance at the repeaters`
`21:06.21`	`linagee_`	`J4k3: anywhere? heh. telco: "lets see. it will be $xxxxxxxxx to put a t1 out there" hehhe`
`21:06.32`	`J4k3`	`dovid: actually, in texas, the local loops (CO to your location) is flat rate.`
`21:06.38`	`J4k3`	`I'm 32kft out, I pay the same price as being next door.`
`21:06.41`	`ManxPower`	`linagee_: I suspect any workable solution would be too expensive for your client.`
`21:07.05`	`J4k3`	`theres like 8 repeaters between here and the CO though, and when lightning hits near them, theres a bit of downtime involved until a tech gets out there to replace the repeater.`
`21:07.11`	`J4k3`	`but that only happens about once every 2 years.`
`21:07.11`	`linagee_`	`ManxPower: i think wifi by weather balloon would be a very good option`
`21:07.13`	`Dovid`	`once were talkin bout wifi can anyone tell me what the diffrent "channels" in my rotuer are ? i noticed that my signal will work better when I am using diffrent one's (i.e. channel 5 sux)`
`21:07.37`	`linagee_`	`ManxPower: you may have to replace it or take it back down and refill it every couple days, but that would just be somebody's job`
`21:07.44`	`ManxPower`	`Dovid: for 802.11b/g there are 3 non-overlapping channels. 1, 6, 11`
`21:07.58`	`ManxPower`	`linagee_: do you know how expensive helium is?`
`21:08.02`	`Dovid`	`hmm. i was using 5 till now`
`21:08.07`	`Dovid`	`i am in Israel ATM`
`21:08.10`	`J4k3`	`http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/802.11`
`21:08.13`	`Dovid`	`whats the diffrence between em /`
`21:08.13`	`linagee_`	`ManxPower: not sure. very?`
`21:08.14`	`Dovid`	`thx`
`21:08.16`	`J4k3`	`wow, nevermind`
`21:08.20`	`J4k3`	`that article is lamer than ever now`
`21:08.25`	`linagee_`	`ManxPower: what if you just used it for the antenna and not equipment up there?`
`21:08.25`	`ManxPower`	`I estimated $250/month in helium with a foil type of weather ballon`
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`21:08.35`	`J4k3`	`balloons are not reliable.`
`21:08.37`	`linagee_`	`ManxPower: that doesn't sound like too much`
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`21:08.49`	`^HeLL^`	`hello everyone`
`21:08.59`	`J4k3`	`a 3 meter weather balloon in a 30 kmh breeze will be sitting practically on the treeline :P`
`21:09.03`	`linagee_`	`ManxPower: a T1 in an urban area may cost the same, but in the jungle they may want to charge you tens of thousands per month to recoup expensive setup. heh`
`21:09.03`	`J4k3`	`teathered.`
`21:09.16`	`J4k3`	`it'll work fine on calm days`
`21:09.23`	`linagee_`	`hmm`
`21:09.30`	`J4k3`	`wifi (802.11b/g) also hates random environments... the spectrum sucks, the protocol sucks.`
`21:09.36`	`ManxPower`	`I wish I had a 150' tower. All I have is a measly 28' old telephone pole for all my antennas`
`21:09.36`	`linagee_`	`put up a freaking tower. :-D`
`21:09.37`	`J4k3`	`11a is worse.`
`21:09.41`	`linagee_`	`or use hills and repeaters. :-D`
`21:09.43`	`linagee_`	`hrm`
`21:09.58`	`J4k3`	`http://www.intrastar.net/~jsuter/stuff/ <- tower building and such`
`21:10.02`	`linagee_`	`have every tower at least 5 feet above the treeline, and put repeaters at hills`
`21:10.03`	`Dovid`	`would channel 7 work better than 6 or it dosent matter ??`
`21:10.19`	`linagee_`	`use solar panel wireless repeaters`
`21:10.30`	`J4k3`	`Dovid: wifi channels (ie - the spacing from 1 to 2) is 5 mhz wide... The actual 802.11b/g carriers are 20 mhz wide.`
`21:10.50`	`J4k3`	`so... if you're set for channel 5 (2432 center frequency) you're dealing with interference from 2422 to 2442 directly.`
`21:11.10`	`Dovid`	`ah`
`21:11.21`	`Dovid`	`so if i mess around wit the channles i may get better reception`
`21:11.40`	`Dovid`	`?`
`21:11.49`	`ManxPower`	`Dovid: You will seldom get any improvement moving off of 1, 6, 11`
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`21:12.25`	`Dovid`	`6 was way better than 5 but the speeds crap out on me at diffrent times`
`21:12.36`	`Dovid`	`J4K3: where did u get that URL from ?`
`21:12.40`	`BSDTech`	`ok why is it digium converts all their soundfiles to gsm`
`21:12.45`	`ManxPower`	`Dovid: that is because any device running on channel 1 would intefere with channel 5, but not 6`
`21:12.51`	`BSDTech`	`when sln is the native asterisk format`
`21:13.03`	`ManxPower`	`BSDTech: because they are small.`
`21:13.11`	`ManxPower`	`you can get the originals.`
`21:13.18`	`Dovid`	`ok`
`21:13.25`	`Dovid`	`so 1 6 and 11 are on the same spectrum`
`21:13.31`	`BSDTech`	`where`
`21:13.37`	`Dovid`	`is it the same for 2 and 7 ?`
`21:13.53`	`BSDTech`	`i find no links`
`21:13.53`	`ManxPower`	`Dovid: no, they are NOT, that is why they don't mess with each other`
`21:13.58`	`Dovid`	`ok`
`21:14.13`	`Dovid`	`so changing to 7 from 6 wont change anything`
`21:14.24`	`J4k3`	`well`
`21:14.28`	`ManxPower`	`Dovid: channel 11 overlaps with channel 7`
`21:14.30`	`J4k3`	`it'll move the center frequency 5 mhz down`
`21:14.37`	`Dovid`	`ok. will try`
`21:14.38`	`Dovid`	`brb`
`21:14.40`	`J4k3`	`ManxPower: technically not. but the interference does.`
`21:14.44`	`ManxPower`	`so if ANYONE is using channel 11 then moving to 6 will help`
`21:14.55`	`ManxPower`	`J4k3: he's obvoiusly not a radio.geek`
`21:14.59`	`J4k3`	`apparently.`
`21:15.11`	`J4k3`	`er level`
`21:15.29`	`ManxPower`	`I'm not either, but since I built a small CATV system I've had to learn some about RF`
`21:15.37`	`J4k3`	`ugh, whoever edits the 802.11 article on wikipedia sucks.`
`21:15.44`	`J4k3`	`its so absolutely worthless`
`21:15.57`	`ManxPower`	`Well, CATV headend, WiFi network, telco.`
`21:15.59`	`J4k3`	`it contains no useful information, and they insisted on linking all the 802.11 substandards into one main article that has nothing useful.`
`21:16.07`	`hads`	`So make it better?`
`21:16.35`	`J4k3`	`I did once and my changes got removed.`
`21:16.58`	`J4k3`	`oh well, if I'm going to waste my time on something, its going to be done on a medium that an idiot can't decide to go remove it.`
`21:17.08`	`hads`	`heh`
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`21:19.09`	`FuriousGeorge`	`tzafrir_laptop: the funny thing is i just built a kernel for this system using a .config from an older version and i saw something about debugfs`
`21:19.26`	`LoRez`	`ok, I'm confused. I'm pretty sure I still have the demo context set up, yet I can't send an incoming call to it as it "Cannot find extension context 'demo'"`
`21:19.27`	`FuriousGeorge`	`and i didnt think anything of it`
`21:19.30`	`FuriousGeorge`	`must have said yes`
`21:20.55`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`debugfs is nice. for instance, modprobe usbmon, mount debugfs, ad start eves-dropping to the USB bus`
`21:21.51`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`J4k3, someone actively edited it to a worse shape?`
`21:22.06`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`If so: reverting it back is easy`
`21:22.36`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`J4k3, what exactly is wrng there?`
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`21:29.40`	`rue_mohr`	`will asterisk work on a 2.4 kernel?`
`21:30.22`	`sevard`	`yes`
`21:30.45`	`rue_mohr`	`hmmm`
`21:31.34`	`rue_mohr`	`hehe, look at that ... kb1ec.h heh, he said he just rewrote them`
`21:32.22`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`rue_mohr, but 2.6 is more fun`
`21:32.40`	`rue_mohr`	`its not happy with the sytem its on`
`21:33.51`	`rue_mohr`	`In file included from zaptel-base.c:41:`
`21:33.51`	`rue_mohr`	`/usr/include/linux/kernel.h:72: error: syntax error before "size_t"`
`21:33.56`	`rue_mohr`	`there's probably a page on this...`
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`21:39.23`	`fetcher`	`rue_mohr: are you using gcc 4.x by chance? If so, try reverting to gcc 3.3.5`
`21:41.21`	`rue_mohr`	`gcc version 3.3.5`
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`21:41.49`	`wunderkin`	`J4k3, the population of elephants are increasing because of stephen colbert!`
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`21:54.10`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`rue_mohr, which specific 2.4 is it?`
`21:54.20`	`rue_mohr`	`2.4.27`
`21:54.33`	`rue_mohr`	`I was just talking with kb1, he says go for 2.6`
`21:54.36`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`which zaptel?`
`21:54.41`	`rue_mohr`	`te110`
`21:54.52`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`which version of zaptel?`
`21:55.01`	`rue_mohr`	`oh 1.2.13`
`21:55.13`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`anyway, try mg2 instead of kb1`
`21:55.23`	`rue_mohr`	`I cant remember who recommended to not go with the bleeding edge`
`21:55.45`	`rue_mohr`	`? mg2?`
`21:56.05`	`rue_mohr`	`oh hah`
`21:56.19`	`rue_mohr`	`no, I was TALKING with kb1`
`21:56.30`	`rue_mohr`	`he says to go with a 2.6 kernel`
`21:57.00`	`rue_mohr`	`go i'll get the source and all`
`21:57.00`	`rue_mohr`	`rather build my own anyhow`
`21:57.18`	`rue_mohr`	`I just got a rough direction from him`
`21:57.29`	`rue_mohr`	`I'll make a T1 loopback in a bit`
`21:58.17`	`ManxPower`	`rue_mohr: that would be "any sane person"`
`21:58.22`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`rue_mohr, which kernel headers exactly? what's the output of 'uname -r' ?`
`21:58.38`	`rue_mohr`	`anright now its 2.4.27`
`21:58.42`	`rue_mohr`	`I'm looking at`
`21:58.47`	`rue_mohr`	`2.6.15`
`21:58.52`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`run uname -r`
`21:59.06`	`rue_mohr`	`2.6.15.7`
`21:59.14`	`rue_mohr`	`srroy, wrong machine`
`21:59.35`	`rue_mohr`	`holdup`
`22:00.42`	`rue_mohr`	`2.4.27-3-386`
`22:00.55`	`J4k3`	`die!!!`
`22:00.56`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`rue_mohr, I'm building it here with that kernel on a standard Sarge system. I get some warnings, but no error`
`22:02.08`	`rue_mohr`	`do you have a /lib/modules/2.4.27-3-386/build`
`22:02.16`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`yes`
`22:02.22`	`rue_mohr`	`aha`
`22:02.33`	`rue_mohr`	`I bet my problem is that mine is missing`
`22:02.38`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`Though I had to pass KSRC and KVERS explicitly, because this is not the kernel I'm running`
`22:03.03`	`tzafrir_laptop`	dpkg -l kernel-headers-`uname -r`
`22:03.24`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`If you have it installed, and didn't mess with it, it should be OK`
`22:04.12`	`rue_mohr`	`phony:/lib/modules/2.4.27-3-386# ln -s /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.4.27-3/ build`
`22:04.14`	`rue_mohr`	`?`
`22:04.17`	`rue_mohr`	`sound right?`
`22:04.48`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`you shouldn't have to do this manually`
`22:04.53`	`rue_mohr`	`now its happy`
`22:04.57`	`sevard`	`it's`
`22:05.10`	`rue_mohr`	`yea, I'm missing that key :)`
`22:05.34`	`sevard`	`no you're not. "I'm"`
`22:05.54`	`rue_mohr`	`erm... theres a sharp jaggie edge that works sometimes`
`22:06.48`	`rue_mohr`	`cool`
`22:06.54`	`rue_mohr`	`I think I have zaptel drivers`
`22:07.31`	`rue_mohr`	`so ... I need to load wctlxxp and zaptel`
`22:07.52`	`rue_mohr`	`oh, poo`
`22:08.01`	`rue_mohr`	`depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.27-3-386/misc/zaptel.o`
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`22:08.50`	`rue_mohr`	`wonder what I'm missing`
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`22:10.26`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`depmod -e should probably be more verbose`
`22:10.48`	`riddlebox`	`what is the rule of thumb for how many calls and phones an asterisk system can support?`
`22:11.15`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`riddlebox, "it depends"`
`22:11.23`	`fx0`	`thats like asking, how many miles can i make with a ferrari.`
`22:11.30`	`rue_mohr`	`riddlebox, like how many T1 cards?`
`22:11.32`	`riddlebox`	`on cpu speed and ram?`
`22:11.35`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`For instance: is there transcoding onvolved?`
`22:11.36`	`J4k3`	`fx0: about 80 between 20 gallon fillups.`
`22:11.39`	`rue_mohr`	`how many 4 port T1 cards?`
`22:12.23`	`rue_mohr`	`pci_unregister_driver_Rsmp_e8061e13 I dont know where these functions should be from`
`22:12.27`	`riddlebox`	`rue_mohr, most likely just with 2 of the 4 port fxo cards`
`22:12.41`	`denon`	`J4k3: who let you in their ferrari?`
`22:12.47`	`rue_mohr`	`thats not alot of calls`
`22:13.04`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`rue_mohr, you built it with 2.4.27-2-386 headers, by any chance?`
`22:13.12`	`ManxPower`	`riddlebox: 2 x 4-port T-1/E-1 Digium cards, no transcoding`
`22:13.17`	`rue_mohr`	`I can see if you have 16 T1 ports the interrupts might start to get a little stressed on a standard desktop machine`
`22:13.30`	`rue_mohr`	`tzafrir, ... shouldn'ta`
`22:13.31`	`ManxPower`	`That may be higher now that Digium has cards (TExx) that do DMA`
`22:13.47`	`J4k3`	`denon: they were drunk and I wasn't. Tossed the keys to my exploder to the friend I was with and rode around for a few hours. Good god.`
`22:14.07`	`rue_mohr`	`/lib/modules/2.4.27-3-386/build -> /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.4.27-3/`
`22:14.09`	`J4k3`	`but I'm generally kinda cop-paranoid, especially in something that sticks out like THAT.`
`22:14.09`	`denon`	`cool`
`22:14.18`	`denon`	`J4k3: though, I'm guessing a hummer still guzzles more`
`22:14.21`	`riddlebox`	`my boss is going to be asking me tomorrow, he wants to look into selling an asterisk solution to small-medium size business`
`22:14.31`	`denon`	`J4k3: friend of mine had one for a while, he was quoting mileage of like 8mi/gal`
`22:14.34`	`J4k3`	`denon: screwing around, we got about 5 mpg.`
`22:14.35`	`ManxPower`	`riddlebox: the answer is really "it depends"`
`22:14.38`	`denon`	`ouch.`
`22:14.41`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`rue_mohr, but this is after a relink by you`
`22:14.49`	`ManxPower`	`I've not personally done more than 4 T-1s in a box`
`22:14.51`	`rue_mohr`	`no there was no link`
`22:14.51`	`denon`	`'course I'm guessing you weren't doin 55`
`22:14.54`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`try 'make clean' and 'make' again`
`22:14.57`	`J4k3`	`a real "gas-powered hummer" will get like 8-10, but won't be anywhere near as much fun`
`22:15.58`	`riddlebox`	`ManxPower, but we really shouldnt have a problem with current desktops and just like 8 co's, we probably wont be doing T1's in them right away`
`22:16.08`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`ManxPower, if the Asterisk system doesn't do much more, it should be capable of quite a few more channels`
`22:16.27`	`ManxPower`	`tzafrir: one would think so`
`22:16.28`	`rue_mohr`	`I have a 1Ghz K7 with 512M of ram`
`22:16.39`	`rue_mohr`	`I'm interested how far down I can dial the cpu before its noticable`
`22:16.40`	`J4k3`	`oldeschool.`
`22:17.06`	`rue_mohr`	`nope, cleaned and recompiled, still unresolved symbold`
`22:17.07`	`mafkees`	`ok`
`22:17.15`	`mafkees`	`let me ask again now the channel is active`
`22:17.16`	`rue_mohr`	`I think I'll make a new kernel use 2.6`
`22:17.37`	`mafkees`	`anyone interested in a pastebin with extensions.conf syntax highlighting ?`
`22:17.43`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`rue_mohr, are you sure that that zaptel.o is actually a new one?`
`22:18.01`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`could be nice`
`22:18.10`	`rue_mohr`	`well I assume make install would overwrite the old ones`
`22:18.15`	`mafkees`	`I have a pastebin with highlighting`
`22:18.30`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`~pb`
`22:18.34`	`jbot`	`rumour has it, pb is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste`
`22:18.39`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`edit away`
`22:18.44`	`mafkees`	`I can start creating a file for extensions.conf based on the vim syntax file for it`
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`22:19.13`	`mafkees`	`when that is done I can create more I guess`
`22:19.28`	`mafkees`	`zaptel.conf, zapata.conf, iax.conf`
`22:19.37`	`mafkees`	`and of course sip.conf`
`22:19.39`	`mafkees`	`most used`
`22:20.05`	`rue_mohr`	`whats this, you want to write my zapata.conf for me?`
`22:20.09`	`mafkees`	`no`
`22:20.20`	`mafkees`	`syntax highligthing pastebin`
`22:20.24`	`LoRez`	`how can I make sure * is loading my extensions.conf?`
`22:20.25`	`rue_mohr`	`oh :/`
`22:20.33`	`rue_mohr`	`LoRez, !`
`22:20.38`	`rue_mohr`	`what are you doing here?`
`22:20.42`	`dlynes_laptop`	`LoRez: try 'show dialplan'`
`22:20.50`	`mafkees`	`http://pastebin.three-dimensional.net`
`22:21.07`	`mafkees`	`going to release the code in GPL tomorrow`
`22:21.13`	`LoRez`	`dlynes_laptop: then it definately isn't.`
`22:21.22`	`mafkees`	`it's a php class`
`22:21.41`	`dlynes_laptop`	`LoRez: why's that?`
`22:21.54`	`dlynes_laptop`	`LoRez: what happens when you type show dialplan?`
`22:22.11`	`LoRez`	`I just show the 'parkedcalls' context`
`22:22.18`	`mafkees`	`Ifrid*CLI> show dialplan`
`22:22.18`	`mafkees`	`No such command 'show dialplan' (type 'help' for help)`
`22:22.18`	`mafkees`	`Ifrid*CLI>`
`22:22.48`	`dlynes_laptop`	`mafkees: type extensions reload`
`22:22.52`	`dlynes_laptop`	`mafkees: mistell`
`22:22.56`	`dlynes_laptop`	`LoRez: type extensions reload`
`22:23.12`	`dlynes_laptop`	`LoRez: what happens when you do that?`
`22:23.14`	`LoRez`	`seems I don't have that command`
`22:23.18`	`mafkees`	`it's: dialplan show`
`22:23.23`	`LoRez`	`guess I'm missing a module`
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`22:24.49`	`dlynes_laptop`	`LoRez: type load pbx_config.so`
`22:25.24`	`mafkees`	`the 1.4 cli stuff has changed a lot`
`22:25.26`	`LoRez`	`that seems to have helped`
`22:25.31`	`mafkees`	`makes my life harder`
`22:25.40`	`mafkees`	`maintaining both 1.2 and 1.4 machines`
`22:25.47`	`dlynes_laptop`	`LoRez: i guess you have autoload=no in your modules.conf file?`
`22:26.30`	`LoRez`	`apparently so`
`22:27.01`	`LoRez`	`it keeps trying to load modules and failing if I leave it on.`
`22:27.44`	`ManxPower`	`LoRez: you MUST have a [general] and [globals] section at the top of your extensions.conf`
`22:27.51`	`ManxPower`	`if you do not your dialplan will not be loaded.`
`22:28.05`	`LoRez`	`it loaded those.`
`22:28.36`	`ManxPower`	`if asterisk tried to load a module and fails asterisk will not start.`
`22:28.37`	`LoRez`	`it's bugging out on codec_mp3_d.so presently though`
`22:28.58`	`ManxPower`	`LoRez: uh, that module is not part of the standard asterisk`
`22:29.41`	`LoRez`	`I noload'd it, now it tries to load format_mp3.so`
`22:30.18`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`btw: do you really have to use format_mp3?`
`22:30.57`	`ManxPower`	`LoRez: "mv /var/lib/asterisk/modules /tmp" then "make install" in the asterisk source.`
`22:31.12`	`LoRez`	`ManxPower: um, no. I didn't install from source.`
`22:31.28`	`ManxPower`	`LoRez: there is your problem 8-(`
`22:31.55`	`ManxPower`	`Your first job is to spank the person that built the package`
`22:32.06`	`mafkees`	`lol`
`22:32.15`	`ManxPower`	`And make sure they don't like it.`
`22:33.20`	`ManxPower`	`I've never seen a software project where packagers do such a terrible job. I'm sure they exist, but I've not seen them.`
`22:34.22`	`LoRez`	`anyway, I noloaded enough stuff that it started.`
`22:35.15`	`mafkees`	`hhhmm, off to translate asterisk.vim to asterisk.php`
`22:35.16`	`mafkees`	`;)`
`22:36.25`	`mafkees`	`-= 54 extensions (231 priorities) in 17 contexts. =-`
`22:36.32`	`mafkees`	`that isn't huge is it ?`
`22:36.46`	`JT`	`it would be if you pasted it here ;)`
`22:37.07`	`mafkees`	`gheh`
`22:37.16`	`mafkees`	`thank god irssi protects me from that`
`22:37.24`	`JT`	`it does?`
`22:37.25`	`mafkees`	`"you are about to paste 300 lines"`
`22:37.31`	`JT`	`hmm`
`22:37.34`	`mafkees`	`"press CTRL+k to do so"`
`22:37.38`	`JT`	`it doesn't warn me for pasting 20`
`22:37.46`	`ManxPower`	`-= 248 extensions (825 priorities) in 24 contexts. =-`
`22:37.56`	`LoRez`	`I'm not getting any notification of calls being attempted at the cli now :(`
`22:38.28`	`mafkees`	`LoRez: set verbose 255`
`22:38.28`	`ManxPower`	`those numbers are bogus, I don't know why, but I know that I do not have 248 extensions`
`22:38.40`	`mafkees`	`ManxPower: macros ?`
`22:39.02`	`ManxPower`	`mafkees: I'm sure that is part of it.`
`22:39.07`	`mafkees`	`JT: paste_verify_line_count = 5`
`22:39.17`	`JT`	`ah ok`
`22:40.17`	`JT`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:40.45`	`mafkees`	`what acient version ?`
`22:40.50`	`mafkees`	`0.8.10 here`
`22:41.57`	`JT`	`0.8.4`
`22:42.11`	`LoRez`	`hrm... from my voip provider, I'm getting an invite for $phonenumber@$asteriskip`
`22:42.20`	`LoRez`	`and * is responding with a 404`
`22:43.09`	`mafkees`	`put $phonenumber exten in [default]`
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`22:43.44`	`LoRez`	`mafkees: in sip.conf?`
`22:44.01`	`mafkees`	`LoRez: extensions.conf`
`22:45.43`	`ManxPower`	`LoRez: any time you see a 404 it means there is not a matching exten => line for the number in extensions.conf (or at least not in the required context)`
`22:47.20`	`LoRez`	`ok, I changed the 's' extension to the $phonenum, which gives me new errors :)`
`22:48.11`	`LoRez`	`how do I pass that call off to my SIP ATA?`
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`22:49.05`	`ManxPower`	`LoRez: exten => is NEVER matched if there is a destination number.`
`22:49.19`	`ManxPower`	`LoRez: the new error would be a good start as a place to fix the new errors`
`22:49.21`	`mafkees`	`LoRez: exten => $phonenumber,1,Dial(SIP/ata)`
`22:49.25`	`*** mode/#asterisk [+b !@freenode/staff/bhall] by LoRez`
`22:49.27`	`*** kick/#asterisk [Bhaal!i=lorez@freenode/staff/lorez] by LoRez (LoRez)`
`22:50.48`	`LoRez`	`ManxPower: mafkees's correction f1x0r3d it :)`
`22:51.25`	`mafkees`	`I f1xor3 3v3ryth1ng`
`22:51.33`	`LoRez`	`now... to get it to dial out from the ATA :)`
`22:52.30`	`riddlebox`	`after you install the asterisk-gui, how do you access it?`
`22:53.13`	`mafkees`	`riddlebox: isnt that in the readme ?`
`22:53.24`	`riddlebox`	`I have looked but I cant see it`
`22:55.47`	`dlynes_laptop`	`riddlebox: have you tried asking on #asterisk-gui?`
`22:55.52`	`riddlebox`	`ahh localhost:8088`
`22:56.07`	`dlynes_laptop`	`riddlebox: I think the username on asterisk-gui is 'admin' with no password by default`
`22:56.27`	`riddlebox`	`you have to set it in manager.conf I think`
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`22:56.34`	`ManxPower`	`riddlebox: take a look at the /topic`
`22:56.49`	`mafkees`	`~topic`
`22:57.03`	`mafkees`	`dammit`
`22:57.04`	`riddlebox`	`sorry`
`22:57.06`	`mafkees`	`annoying bot`
`22:57.50`	`dlynes_laptop`	`wouldn't /topic be easier to type than ~topic?`
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`23:01.41`	`angryuser`	`is it possible to use european R of the phone button in features conf?`
`23:01.51`	`dlynes_laptop`	`~topic list`
`23:03.29`	`ManxPower`	`angryuser: in the docs replace the word "FLASH" with "R" or "RECALL"`
`23:03.43`	`ManxPower`	`they are basically the same thing`
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`23:05.02`	`angryuser`	`ManxPower: i tryed do use R like xfer => R, no use;(`
`23:05.41`	`ManxPower`	`angryuser: that will not work.`
`23:05.54`	`ManxPower`	`All the R key does is flash the line.`
`23:06.11`	`ManxPower`	`angryuser: you DO realize that flash based stuff has nothing to do with features.conf, right?`
`23:06.39`	`angryuser`	`well wright now R put's user on hold for me`
`23:07.12`	`LoRez`	`ManxPower: so, now my ATA is sending SIP INVITEs to $dialednumber@$asteriskip and getting 404's. which makes sense as I'm dialing "real" phone numbers`
`23:07.23`	`ManxPower`	`angryuser: features.conf is for DTMF based call control. R/RECALL/FLASH is not DTMF.`
`23:07.41`	`ManxPower`	`LoRez: sigh What context is the ATA in?`
`23:07.58`	`angryuser`	`ManxPower: is there any .conf for that?`
`23:08.01`	`ManxPower`	`i.e. what is the context= line in sip.conf`
`23:08.05`	`LoRez`	`'default'`
`23:08.05`	`ManxPower`	`angryuser: I doubt it.`
`23:08.20`	`mafkees`	`so put that $phonenumber in [default]`
`23:08.24`	`ManxPower`	`LoRez: then you need exten => $dialednumber,1,whatever in default.`
`23:08.25`	`mafkees`	`extensions.conf`
`23:08.30`	`ManxPower`	`this is not rocket science.`
`23:08.35`	`mafkees`	`no ?`
`23:08.37`	`mafkees`	`;)`
`23:08.38`	`ManxPower`	`LoRez: you have not read The Book, have you?`
`23:08.51`	`LoRez`	`I'm too impatient :)`
`23:08.54`	`ManxPower`	`ALL this stuff should be covered in The Book`
`23:09.34`	`angryuser`	`ManxPower:it is strange, why there is action preprogrammed then?(on hold) and the most strange thing is that R does nothing for FXS users`
`23:09.59`	`ManxPower`	`angryuser: What type of interface are you using? ATA? Zap?`
`23:10.13`	`angryuser`	`ManxPower:FXS R=> no effect Sip/User => on hold`
`23:10.20`	`JT`	`zaptel controls flash`
`23:10.30`	`ManxPower`	`JT: so would an ATA`
`23:10.34`	`JT`	`right`
`23:10.37`	`ManxPower`	`angryuser: so you have a SIPura ATA?`
`23:10.44`	`JT`	`i didn't catch if angryuser had zaptel or an ata`
`23:11.03`	`angryuser`	`i have astribank for fxs, and pap2 for sip client`
`23:11.04`	`LoRez`	`apparently it was already set up :) I just had to dial the entire # including the 1.`
`23:11.06`	`ManxPower`	`JT: Me neither, but most of the time it is like pulling teeth to get that info out of them.`
`23:11.32`	`angryuser`	`aster 1.4 cvs latest`
`23:11.48`	`ManxPower`	`angryuser: For SIP ATAs the FLASH/RECALL controls the ATA, for Zap FXS it is configured in zapata.conf`
`23:12.29`	`angryuser`	`ManxPower: ok thank you`
`23:12.32`	`ManxPower`	`JT: I find it easier to assume something, if I'm wrong they will tell me I assumed the wrong device. It frequently is easier than getting them to tell me the required info.`
`23:13.04`	`JT`	`right`
`23:13.27`	`JT`	`yeah, cos don't zaptel devices and atas work the same ways?? ;)`
`23:13.46`	`JT`	`it's an astribank issue`
`23:13.55`	`JT`	`no idea how those things interconnect other than usb`
`23:14.35`	`mafkees`	`I'd like to test one someday`
`23:14.39`	`mafkees`	`they seem handy`
`23:14.54`	`JT`	`i don't`
`23:14.59`	`angryuser`	`JT: astribank working really fine for me`
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`23:16.32`	`JT`	`usb for telecommunications... yeah...`
`23:16.41`	`ManxPower`	`I'll stick to Adtran TA750, thankyouverymuch`
`23:17.17`	`mafkees`	`I dont use channelbank`
`23:17.23`	`mafkees`	`get a sip phone`
`23:17.29`	`JT`	`ManxPower: :)`
`23:19.23`	`angryuser`	`JT: why usb2 is a slow bus for you?`
`23:19.52`	`JT`	`it's not about raw speed, it's about reliability and lack of a positive locking connector`
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`23:20.34`	`jserve`	`Hi all`
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`23:21.48`	`angryuser`	`JT: not sure about "positive locking connector" but astribank never generated crash of any kind for me`
`23:22.11`	`ManxPower`	`angryuser: if you tug on an RJ-45 connector it won't come out, if you do so with USB it will`
`23:22.16`	`robl^`	`JT: USB2+Duct Tape ;-)`
`23:22.27`	`JT`	`usb2 + fireplace`
`23:22.36`	`ManxPower`	`ROBL!`
`23:22.42`	`robl^`	`MP!!!`
`23:23.04`	`ManxPower`	`robl^: I hate Mardi Gras`
`23:23.30`	`JT`	`usb has always been a hackish "standard" and the host controllers can be pretty dodgy, too`
`23:23.36`	`robl^`	`ManxPower: did you accidentially swallow the baby in a kink cake?`
`23:23.52`	`ManxPower`	`robl^: no. There's always a damn parade between where you are and where you need to be.`
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`23:24.03`	`robl^`	`er.. king cake. darn freudian slips`
`23:24.30`	`ManxPower`	`robl^: freudian, eh?`
`23:24.51`	`robl^`	`I am sweet and innocent`
`23:24.51`	`angryuser`	`ManxPower: ah that connector;) hehe just dont any too much curios user aproach the site;)`
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`23:31.43`	`angryuser`	`what is "Flash-hook call transfer, requires a three way calling" activated by transfer=yes in zapata.conf?`
`23:32.08`	`k-man`	`what are the main differences between 1.2 and 1.4?`
`23:32.30`	`ocnarfid`	`.2?`
`23:32.49`	`k-man`	`yes... very wise to duck`
`23:32.52`	`k-man`	`;)`
`23:34.49`	`mafkees`	`k-man: read UPGRADE.txt`
`23:35.49`	`ManxPower`	`angryuser: it means that if you want to use flash based transfers you need to have threeway calling enabled in zapata.conf`
`23:36.27`	`k-man`	`is there a win32 build of 1.4 around anywhere?`
`23:36.40`	`ManxPower`	`angryuser: DTMF * transfers are an ugly hack for phones that are too stupid to do real transfers`
`23:36.47`	`E-bola`	`have asterisk been ported to win32?`
`23:36.48`	`ManxPower`	`k-man: no need to be vulgar`
`23:37.05`	`k-man`	`ManxPower, there is a build of 1.2`
`23:37.09`	`k-man`	`oops`
`23:37.16`	`k-man`	`i meant to address that to E-bola`
`23:37.22`	`k-man`	`ManxPower, its not vulgar`
`23:37.23`	`E-bola`	`a native win32 build`
`23:37.26`	`k-man`	`its a fact of life`
`23:37.27`	`E-bola`	`or a cygwin build?`
`23:37.32`	`k-man`	`i love linux...`
`23:37.47`	`k-man`	`but right now, for testing, it would be useful for me if i could run it under win32`
`23:37.54`	`ManxPower`	`Asterisk on Win32 is against god and country`
`23:38.05`	`ManxPower`	`Think of the children!`
`23:38.22`	`J4k3`	`virtualization`
`23:38.39`	`k-man`	`J4k3, yes, im running it under vmware now`
`23:38.51`	`mafkees`	`win32 ?`
`23:38.54`	`mafkees`	`what's that ?`
`23:38.56`	`angryuser`	`ManxPower: hm i have some problems with my DTMF transfer, the delay between each Sign or digit is too short, i have modified feturedigittimeout=2000 but nothing changes, if have like #2 for transfer, to do it i need to pres the sequence really fast`
`23:39.05`	`k-man`	`J4k3, but i have this problem where playing audio is slow... i thought it might be because its running under vmware`
`23:39.22`	`J4k3`	`kman: there are kernel patches for vmware timer fixes iirc.`
`23:39.41`	`mafkees`	`use xen`
`23:39.45`	`angryuser`	`ManxPower:any ides how to change a delay between DTMF?`
`23:39.50`	`k-man`	`J4k3, ooh? really? url?`
`23:39.56`	`J4k3`	`kman: does the vm's RTC slip time, too?`
`23:40.02`	`J4k3`	`mine was, radically`
`23:40.11`	`k-man`	`J4k3, um... not sure... how do i test that?`
`23:40.40`	`ManxPower`	`angryuser: I never use DTMF based transfers. I use the transfer button on my IP phone or use FLASH transfers`
`23:41.15`	`mafkees`	`the # is working great`
`23:41.20`	`mafkees`	`I use it all the time`
`23:41.23`	`k-man`	`J4k3, its about 10 secounds behind the host`
`23:41.44`	`angryuser`	`ManxPower: flash transfer work only for pri?`
`23:42.07`	`mafkees`	`angryuser: and for fxo/fxs`
`23:42.37`	`ManxPower`	`angryuser: you can't do transfers on a PRI. only for FXS`
`23:43.13`	`k-man`	`j4k, any idea where i can find more info on this?`
`23:43.38`	`JT`	`you can actually do transfers on a pri`
`23:43.40`	`J4k3`	`k-man: hrm.. I googled it right up before`
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`23:43.51`	`angryuser`	`ManxPower: hm, maybe exctly what i need, going to search some info about it`
`23:45.06`	`ManxPower`	`JT: technically yes, but it is not initated by the phone device`
`23:45.41`	`JT`	`true`
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`23:47.12`	`ManxPower`	`JT: Are #asterisk people becoming less technical or does it just seem like it?`
`23:47.39`	`mafkees`	`ManxPower: depends on the dayoftheweek and timeofday`
`23:48.03`	`Dovid`	`lol`
`23:48.11`	`ManxPower`	`mafkees: well someone needs to update the dialplan routing for those times!`
`23:48.12`	`angryuser`	`is there any info about asterisk and Flash buttons?`
`23:48.45`	`ManxPower`	`angryuser: flash is so mind numbingly simple that there is no need for much information about it.`
`23:48.54`	`mafkees`	`lol ManxPower`
`23:49.03`	`mafkees`	`no GotoIfTime on irc huh`
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`23:49.16`	`JT`	`ManxPower: day and time i guess, yes :)`
`23:49.27`	`ManxPower`	`you press flash on an zaptel FXS port and what happens is controlled by the items in zapata.conf`
`23:49.46`	`angryuser`	`ManxPower:ok`
`23:50.03`	`ManxPower`	`angryuser: it works just like threeway calling or call waiting from the telephone company in the USA`
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`23:52.26`	`mavior`	`hello everybody`
`23:53.02`	`Dovid`	`hello mavior`
`23:54.14`	`angryuser`	`ManxPower: kk, i have like last question;) i need a feature, the principe is simple, a user which goes somewhere for a good amound of time, pick up a phone, dials(whaever the number) and after that all incoming calls go directly to his message box, user comes back dials again that number=>he can receive calls, is it possible?`
`23:54.22`	`mavior`	`can somebody help me out with this error : chan_iax2.c:6754 socket_process: Rejected connect attempt from 88.158.12.54, who was trying to reach '123@'`
`23:55.04`	`mavior`	`i am trying to call an asterisk server from another one`
`23:55.19`	`mavior`	`through iax2`
`23:55.34`	`mavior`	`both servers are behind nat`
`23:55.51`	`J4k3`	`forward some darned ports`
`23:55.55`	`mafkees`	`mavior: check extensions.conf`
`23:56.16`	`Dovid`	`J4K3: having a bad day ?`
`23:56.16`	`mafkees`	`looks like you dont have the correct extension in the context where incoming iax calls go`
`23:56.26`	`angryuser`	`ManxPower: i can change it with time functions, but dont know if there any way that user turn the "message box mode on" from his phone`
`23:56.53`	`mafkees`	`angryuser: use the asterisk db`
`23:56.57`	`J4k3`	`Dovid: nah. Its just like... not that hard to forward ports in most situations. People put a lot more into it than there really is.`
`23:57.03`	`mavior`	`i have server1 which have the [peer] section that place the call to server2 which have the [user] section where the place is incoming`
`23:57.09`	`Dovid`	`lol`
`23:57.14`	`Dovid`	`so then just do`
`23:57.17`	`Dovid`	`~RTFM`
`23:57.23`	`jbot`	`from memory, rtfm is Read The F*cking Manual (TM). It is a suggestion to do your homework before posting a question. Sometimes used as RTFM $SPECIFIC_MANUAL to refer to a specific source of information. See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RTFM`
`23:57.26`	`Dovid`	`~NaT problems`
`23:57.39`	`ManxPower`	`The newbies! Oh god it's full of newbies!`
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`23:57.44`	`Dovid`	`lol`
`23:57.49`	`mavior`	`and i've seen that server2 must be registered to server1 in order to be able ro place the call, otherwise it won't work`
`23:58.12`	`Dovid`	`i have a full bottle of glenfich - any body want ?`
`23:58.57`	`mavior`	`i have forwarded the right iax ports in both servers`
`23:59.40`	`Dovid`	`i think we need a few new variables in asterisk`
`23:59.41`	`mafkees`	`ok, wife is wanting to go to bed with me`
`23:59.45`	`mafkees`	`time to leave irc`

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