00:02.40 | [TK]D-Fender | bluregard : To what end? |
00:02.56 | mpruett | Guys - When I try to send a sip notify messsage to one of my Sipura devices, I get "401 Unauthorized" message back. Does anyone know why this would happen? The device is working fine otherwise - registration, term, orig, etc.. |
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00:04.06 | bluregard | [TK]D-Fender: I'm trying to equate * to phone systems I know. At work our phones had a directory button, hit it start typing last name, when you found a match you could hit an outbound line and dial that person/extension. |
00:04.35 | sandra78 | hi pls help with tdm 24 ports installation!! |
00:06.06 | [TK]D-Fender | bluregard : 2 ways : Use the internal directory on the phone which is effectively speed-dials. This can be prepped on the provisioning server. or if you have IP 600/601/650's you can use the XML microbrowser and click-to-call scripts. |
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00:06.52 | bluregard | [TK]D-Fender: So when users change you have to change the internal directory and voicemail.conf etc. |
00:07.35 | [TK]D-Fender | bluregard : the internal director isn't tied to anything really, though you can do your own scripts to mode the XML file on the provisioning server. Thing is you'd have to reboot the phone to take the changes. |
00:08.45 | bluregard | [TK]D-Fender: I get it. Can you force station reboots over the network? |
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00:10.23 | [TK]D-Fender | bluregard : By sending a special SIP notify message, yes, but its somewhat painful. No SIP phone I know has a network based directory currently. |
00:11.46 | sandra78 | hi pls help with tdm2400p ports installation!! |
00:12.25 | bluregard | [TK]D-Fender: Wishfull thinking I guess |
00:12.47 | denon | sandra78: your tdm card came with free installation tech support from digium, give them a call, it'll be much easier than begging for help on irc |
00:13.17 | bluregard | [TK]D-Fender: Shouldn't be too hard to do it with Perl though I would imagine. |
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00:13.38 | bluregard | build the internal directory based on voicemail.conf that is |
00:16.12 | bluregard | man, for Chicago being as big as it is you'd think there would be an * group or even just a VoIP group active. |
00:18.17 | [TK]D-Fender | sandra78 : And if you are looking for help, try to come in here with some specific questions for the parts youa re having trouble with and provide the ouput erros in pastebins, etc so that people know what you need and don't have to play "20 questions" with you. |
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00:18.44 | [TK]D-Fender | bluregard : there are a fair # of * users in that area from hat i've heard in here, though I couldn't give you names... |
00:19.30 | [TK]D-Fender | bluregard : No to build a directory off of Voicemail wouldn't be too hard, but then again it is my opinion that scrolling through the list on-screen is COMPLETELY not profitable. |
00:19.49 | [TK]D-Fender | bluregard : For internal use you are far better off with a printed paper list of extensions. |
00:20.30 | [TK]D-Fender | bluregard : For outside resources though I would much rather suggest a "click-to-call" page for either a PC + browser, or IP 6XX MicroBrowser. |
00:24.08 | bluregard | [TK]D-Fender: Scrolling through the list? You can't do it like Directory() does where you type in the first few letters of the first/last name? |
00:25.47 | [TK]D-Fender | bluregard : Not as I recall |
00:25.56 | bluregard | I see |
00:26.41 | bluregard | can the LCD on the IP 50x receive data from say an AGI script? |
00:27.43 | [TK]D-Fender | bluregard : Nope. Onlyt he 6XX series has a MicroBrowser and its not really made to receive "pushed" info from a server so much as poll on its own accord |
00:28.30 | [TK]D-Fender | bluregard : There is much that Polycom could do to make their phones even more appealing than they already are and who can say when they will add the next useful bit for us. |
00:28.42 | [TK]D-Fender | bluregard : My guess it'll have to be made profitable for them to do so. |
00:29.15 | [TK]D-Fender | bluregard : Frankly I think that they could easily make room for such functionality by removing the internal HTTP config stuff ;) |
00:30.34 | bluregard | [TK]D-Fender: My 501 should come Tuesday, so once I can play with it I'll be able to speak more intelligently on the matter. |
00:33.00 | [TK]D-Fender | bluregard : Once you start thinking of these phones as "just phones" you'll see that outside tools are needed to bring "integration" in |
00:35.37 | bluregard | yeah I guess so |
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00:39.54 | wunderkin | bluregard, to reset the phones, type sip notify polycom-check-cfg <peer> |
00:40.10 | wunderkin | or if you want to do a list of phones then you would need a script |
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00:43.21 | bluregard | yeah, I should be able to kludge my way through a perl script if need be |
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00:47.53 | NDT | anyone used chanskype? |
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00:51.46 | SwK | someone kick NDT he's a troll |
00:52.11 | axisys | looking for a cheap/used sipura 3000 or like device.. anyone know of a site besides ebay? |
00:52.28 | SwK | not for u sed |
00:52.33 | bluregard | can someone try and load atacom.com |
00:52.49 | SwK | works for me |
00:52.52 | sevard | same |
00:53.38 | bluregard | I'm getting server errors |
00:54.13 | wunderkin | bluregard, me too.. but are you looking for atacomm.com? the voip place? |
00:54.19 | wunderkin | i mean, it works for me |
00:54.21 | bluregard | yeah |
00:54.27 | bluregard | sorry, I missed the second m |
00:54.42 | bluregard | konqueror loads it, firefox doesn't |
00:55.11 | [TK]D-Fender | SwK :Don't jump so fast. Give him a chance to earn a kicking :) |
00:55.32 | sevard | i'm using firefox, it loads. |
00:55.41 | bluregard | hmm |
00:56.02 | bluregard | Mine keeps giving me Server Error in '/' Application. |
00:56.15 | sevard | hm |
00:56.32 | bluregard | whatever, I'll use konqueror. I used Firefox to place my order yesterday, I dunno what's up with it |
00:58.47 | SwK | heh |
00:58.57 | SwK | [tk]d-fender heh |
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01:11.43 | NDT | SwK get to work...quit playing in irc |
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01:15.32 | NDT | SwK: I knew you'd run away.... |
01:18.13 | [TK]D-Fender | NDT : If you are trying to prove that you are not an "undesirable" in here you are failing... |
01:18.38 | Dovid | lol |
01:18.46 | NDT | heh...I know SwK |
01:20.34 | bluregard | linlin: you around? |
01:21.53 | linlin | yeah |
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01:22.00 | VoipMasta | Hi there |
01:22.16 | VoipMasta | Does anyone know why I can only register 1 time when using realtime for SIP? |
01:22.16 | linlin | bluregard whats up?" |
01:22.32 | bluregard | linlin: where about in IL are you, if you don't mind me asking |
01:22.38 | VoipMasta | After the 1st register I get "Wrong password" |
01:23.00 | linlin | chicago suburbs, about an hour metra ride from the city |
01:23.09 | bluregard | north or south |
01:23.15 | bluregard | or west even |
01:24.02 | linlin | north west |
01:24.24 | linlin | im in Algonquin/Crystal Lake/Lake in the Hills |
01:24.26 | bluregard | i'm about a half hour south of the city |
01:24.51 | linlin | good stuff |
01:24.52 | bluregard | right off 94 |
01:25.00 | linlin | how did you know i live in IL ? |
01:25.16 | bluregard | your domain is il.comcast.net |
01:25.24 | SwK | [TK]D-Fender: actually I know NDT |
01:25.28 | SwK | he's not that bad |
01:25.30 | linlin | oh, duh |
01:25.41 | linlin | yeah, small world |
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01:26.06 | bluregard | I've been trying to find active * or VoIP groups in Chicago to no avail |
01:26.43 | NDT | wife tells me I'm a prick...but blah...I ain't that bad |
01:26.43 | Qwell | bluregard: There is a telephony group at one of the schools |
01:26.55 | bluregard | qwell: you around here too? |
01:26.58 | linlin | bluregard, chicago 2600 is a good group of guys |
01:27.04 | Qwell | no, was there earlier this week |
01:27.11 | Qwell | bbl |
01:27.13 | linlin | general knowledge of computer/linux stuff |
01:27.22 | linlin | think there was an * presentation a couple months back |
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01:27.41 | linlin | its in Irving Park |
01:27.57 | bluregard | linlin: I've been wanting to go I just always miss it |
01:28.08 | bluregard | either I forget or have something else going on |
01:28.33 | linlin | first friday of the month :-p |
01:28.36 | bluregard | I might try and get up there for the Dec meeting |
01:28.46 | bluregard | yeah, I check the website from time to time |
01:29.17 | linlin | good group |
01:29.27 | linlin | theres talk of starting a legitimate con in the chicago area |
01:29.33 | bluregard | the south suburbs are getting dumber and dumber with time, I kind of figured I'd have to go north/west |
01:30.58 | bluregard | that would be awesome if there was a con around here |
01:30.58 | linlin | i dunno how broad your intrests are, but there are some tool/lockpicking groups around too |
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01:31.49 | bluregard | they're pretty broad, I've been using *nix for about 6 or 7 years now. I'm by no meens an expert, but I get by. |
01:31.54 | linlin | http://www.binrev.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=18501&hl=chicago |
01:34.25 | VoipMasta | any ideas on the SIP registration problem using realtime? |
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01:37.44 | VoipMasta | would you consider realtime stable enough to be used in a production environment? |
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01:39.55 | xheliox | I do (on 1.2). |
01:40.06 | xheliox | But following my lead is never advisable. |
01:40.26 | VoipMasta | lol |
01:40.49 | VoipMasta | xheliox: have you used realtime for SIP (sipusers and sippeers)? |
01:41.07 | xheliox | I'd have to think it's pretty vital for any large deployment. |
01:41.15 | xheliox | Yes. That's primarily what I've used it for. |
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01:41.39 | VoipMasta | I'm facing an issue when registering... I get to register once, but the second time I try to register I get a "Wrong Password" message, any ideas? |
01:41.42 | bluregard | linlin: do you make it to the 2600 meetings regularly? |
01:41.52 | xheliox | Hmm, that's interesting. No, I've never seen that. |
01:42.04 | linlin | emm...not really, ive been to the last 3 though |
01:42.05 | xheliox | I was just thinking how flawless that stuff has always worked for me. |
01:42.28 | linlin | its kinda the cadillac of 2600 meetings though |
01:42.39 | bluregard | that's what I've read |
01:42.40 | linlin | like we actually meet in a facility...with computers...and internet |
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01:42.59 | linlin | others are just in panera breads or even just on street corners outside phone booths and stuff :p |
01:43.11 | bluregard | I know they get visits from Chicago's finest pretty regularly, at least when it was at Union Station. |
01:43.17 | xheliox | Blasphemy. It's not 2600 unless it's a food court in a mall! ;) |
01:43.19 | VoipMasta | xheliox: I don't know why it's refusing my registrations :( I register once, de-register and try to register again and I get the error msg |
01:43.33 | linlin | yeah they visited once |
01:43.37 | xheliox | VoipMasta: You're just using plain text passwords? |
01:43.44 | VoipMasta | I thought 2600 meetings worldwide were already in history books |
01:43.47 | linlin | its kinda nice to have a palce to hold presentations atd stuff though too |
01:43.50 | VoipMasta | xheliox: yes, I'm using plain text |
01:43.51 | linlin | food court wouldnt be bad |
01:44.05 | linlin | er, visited once while i was there |
01:44.49 | bluregard | I think I might try and make it this month. If I tell my wife now I should be ok...:) |
01:45.32 | linlin | heh ;) |
01:45.32 | xheliox | And it's especially not 2600 if you have to ask your wife's permission. *sigh* What has happened to this world I live in? |
01:45.47 | bluregard | a world where people eventually grow up as much as we may not want to. |
01:46.01 | xheliox | blah blah blah. I refuse! ;) |
01:46.05 | bluregard | ha |
01:46.14 | linlin | it may seem kinda tight knit, but thats just how geeks as a people are anyways |
01:46.22 | linlin | like it felt wierd the first times i went |
01:46.26 | bluregard | I tried to refuse...then my son was born |
01:46.33 | linlin | ha |
01:46.43 | bluregard | yeah, I can imagine...I see how it is on IRC let alone in person |
01:46.51 | xheliox | Hey, you could have always put him up for adoption, you made a choice. :) |
01:47.05 | bluregard | that wasn't much of a choice |
01:47.13 | linlin | the irc room is usually dead |
01:47.23 | linlin | a "blessing" right ;) ? |
01:47.35 | bluregard | no just IRC in general, not the chi2600 room |
01:47.37 | xheliox | Yeah yeah.. unending love for your child, heard it all before. |
01:47.40 | linlin | oh yeah |
01:47.46 | bluregard | exactly |
01:47.47 | linlin | its a pretty cool thing to do though |
01:47.56 | linlin | whate else am i going t odo on a firday night.. |
01:48.20 | bluregard | yeah, we sat home and bitched about there being nothing to do last night |
01:48.21 | linlin | actually, im only 18 so theres probally plenty of things for me to do |
01:49.03 | bluregard | I'm only 24, bars got old fast and 2 kids at home just doesn't let you do much |
01:49.17 | linlin | the guy that runs it, who runs the little computer club at the boys and girls club that its hosted at is pretty cool |
01:49.22 | Dovid | 24 and 2 kids ? |
01:49.25 | linlin | lots of guys that have been going to the meetings forever |
01:49.32 | Dovid | ouch |
01:49.34 | bluregard | Dovid: yeah |
01:49.37 | linlin | they are pretty cool, they can be watched on welcometotehscene.com |
01:49.44 | bluregard | it's all good, they're awesome |
01:50.13 | linlin | its a good time |
01:50.15 | bluregard | my son is next to me playing games on cartoonnetwork.com |
01:51.42 | bluregard | started him on Gcompris when he was about 2, he kicks ass on the PC now.. |
01:51.55 | linlin | they guy that organizes the even brings his kids |
01:52.03 | bluregard | hehe |
01:52.04 | linlin | event* |
01:52.15 | bluregard | mine are still too young for that |
01:52.25 | linlin | tehy have this cusomized version of unreal tournament thats modified to run on nerf guns and stuff |
01:52.39 | bluregard | haha, that's awesome |
01:52.43 | linlin | kinda funny, a litte kiddy lan party |
01:53.18 | bluregard | cartoon network has a bunch of flash games. They have a Tom & Jerry game where you have to build a mousetrap on a blueprint and trap Jerry... |
01:53.46 | bluregard | pretty addicting |
01:53.47 | linlin | 1337 |
01:55.44 | linlin | im pretty addicted to the falling sand game myself |
01:56.02 | bluregard | I haven't seen that one |
01:56.47 | linlin | dumb little game |
01:56.51 | linlin | http://fallingsandgame.com/sand/index.html |
01:57.16 | bluregard | My wife plays Gaia all the time. I'm not much into games... |
01:58.19 | linlin | i play UT once and awhile, i dont game much either |
01:58.48 | bluregard | I used to play Ghost Recon on TAG but that got old pretty quick |
01:59.03 | linlin | yeah i know what you mean |
01:59.16 | linlin | thats why i got into this whole linux thing :p |
01:59.29 | linlin | probally couldnt get bored if i tried |
01:59.46 | VoipMasta | Any good softphone (SIP) for linux? I guess my problem relies on Ekiga |
02:00.07 | linlin | i used idefisk, its a crossplatform iax phone |
02:00.12 | bluregard | yep, I'd rather mess around with something on the linux boxes that mindlessly shoot shit |
02:00.14 | linlin | hang on though i know of another one |
02:00.18 | linlin | yup |
02:00.39 | bluregard | VoipMasta: If you need something simple X-Lite is pretty good |
02:00.49 | tzafrir_laptop | twinkle is nice |
02:00.59 | VoipMasta | bluregard: but it's windows only (or not?) |
02:01.11 | bluregard | no, I use Linux as my desktop |
02:01.15 | bluregard | there's a linux binary |
02:01.43 | tzafrir_laptop | bluregard, what distro? |
02:01.48 | bluregard | Kubuntu |
02:02.12 | tzafrir_laptop | There's a deb in Debian Etch. Maybe it also exists for kubuntu. |
02:02.24 | VoipMasta | ok, I'm installing twinkle and looking for x-lite :) |
02:02.59 | tzafrir_laptop | An autobuilding of some packages could also be found at http://pkg-voip.buildserver.net/ |
02:03.11 | VoipMasta | bluregard: I can't find it in xten.com (counterpath) |
02:04.13 | bluregard | umm, main page top right, click Tux, download tar.gz |
02:04.21 | VoipMasta | ok found it |
02:04.47 | VoipMasta | I was looking under Products |
02:04.48 | bluregard | there you go |
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02:08.41 | VoipMasta | ok, got x-lite working |
02:08.55 | bluregard | it's pretty good for basic testing |
02:09.12 | VoipMasta | yup. I used it on windows |
02:09.19 | VoipMasta | but haven't booted in windows for a while now |
02:09.35 | bluregard | when you open windows bugs will come in |
02:09.42 | VoipMasta | lol |
02:10.02 | VoipMasta | my desktop PC runs linux most of the time, and my laptop runs FreeBSD |
02:10.12 | bluregard | someone needs to write a host firewall named Screens |
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02:13.58 | VoipMasta | or an antivirus/antispyware named "shields" because it "blocks your windows" |
02:14.09 | VoipMasta | or shades |
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02:36.48 | bluregard | linlin: how into Asterisk are you? |
02:40.55 | linlin | voip in general i think is pretty cool |
02:41.08 | bluregard | do you have an * box set up? |
02:41.14 | linlin | a couple |
02:41.19 | linlin | 866-667-1337 |
02:41.36 | bluregard | did you hear about the datacenter that just opened in Arlington Heights? |
02:41.46 | linlin | no |
02:41.52 | bluregard | coloquest.com |
02:41.56 | linlin | hmm |
02:41.59 | linlin | they cheap? |
02:42.06 | bluregard | not bad |
02:42.13 | linlin | i have a box in miami and i think it would be awesome to have it local |
02:42.24 | bluregard | they have a few chicago only packages that are pretty decent. |
02:42.44 | bluregard | hell they offer a full rack and 100Mbit unmeetered connection for just under 3 grand |
02:42.45 | linlin | i dont think ill ever find anything that can beat the price i have now though |
02:43.40 | bluregard | I've been wanting to get one of my machines on a good upstream connection. |
02:43.54 | linlin | colopronto.com if you can get a 1u box |
02:43.57 | linlin | 20$ a month |
02:44.06 | bluregard | they offer a 2U 5Mbit package for around $150 |
02:44.13 | BosHaus | I'm trying to let by boss use our work bandwidth |
02:44.21 | BosHaus | 45mbit and we barely use a bit of it ;) |
02:44.27 | linlin | heh |
02:44.30 | linlin | fiber? |
02:44.36 | BosHaus | yeah |
02:44.38 | BosHaus | ds3 I think |
02:44.49 | bluregard | when I worked down in Charlotte we had a 45Mbit SONET that I had full controll over....it was great. |
02:45.24 | bluregard | hehe, we were on the same loop as all the Char-Meck police departments. |
02:45.36 | BosHaus | I think the only reason I can't do it yet is he doesn't trust me not to do illegal stuff over it |
02:46.22 | bluregard | yeah, legal aspect of it is kinda ifey for businesses |
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02:47.03 | BosHaus | and I have 2mbit up at home, so I guess that's good enough |
02:47.12 | bluregard | linlin: what do you use your Miami box for?r |
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02:47.29 | bluregard | I get pretty decent upstream here, around a meg usually |
02:47.29 | linlin | asterisk is on it, nice to have an asterisk box that i dont have to maintain at home |
02:47.32 | linlin | among other crap |
02:47.45 | linlin | torrents are nice :p |
02:47.53 | bluregard | my downstream screams here though |
02:48.04 | bluregard | usually around 15Mbit |
02:49.24 | linlin | i wish i could find a cheap local facility, but i will never find one as cheap as what i have now |
02:49.57 | bluregard | coloquest is peered with all the major backbones, as long as they allow access to the rack I might look into it |
02:51.39 | bluregard | then I have to figure out how to explain the need for co-lo to my wife |
02:51.51 | linlin | :) |
02:53.44 | bluregard | do you do IT shit professionally or hobby |
02:54.21 | linlin | only hobby, ill get into the field as a career when the time comes |
02:54.28 | linlin | i manage a movie theater right now lol |
02:55.17 | bluregard | we should talk if you're interested |
02:55.57 | linlin | about what |
02:56.37 | bluregard | I got hurt a little over a year ago, and had to quit my job. I'm thinking about starting up something small in the next few months. |
02:57.32 | bluregard | I've been doing little BS home user stuff for the last few months, been thinking about getting into more of the business end of it. |
02:57.44 | linlin | yeah good stuff |
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02:58.06 | linlin | what market(s) |
02:59.21 | bluregard | well for now I'm only south suburbs, but there's a lot of business up north in the city and the NW/burbs |
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02:59.59 | linlin | like doing support/installs and crap or backend type stuff |
03:00.48 | bluregard | probably more backend. That's where a bulk of my experience lies, networking, infrastructure type stuff. |
03:01.08 | linlin | yeah likewise |
03:02.13 | bluregard | The last place I worked I managed a network with 26 remote offices each with about 25 users and the main office had about 100 users. |
03:02.31 | bluregard | all Citrix....it sucked |
03:03.44 | bluregard | I've been looking for someone local that has some networking skills other than setting their Linksys to 192.168.0.1 |
03:04.46 | linlin | yeah, i dont have any formal training yet, but i'd like to think i can pull my weight in networking and serversusing "servers" as a vauge term |
03:05.01 | bluregard | I'm amazed that some of the shops around here make any money with the crap they try and pull |
03:05.27 | bluregard | same here. The only real formal training I have is SAN design/install |
03:07.01 | axisys | sorry for repeat question but still looking for a cheap/used sipura 3000 or like device. |
03:07.01 | bluregard | I was in one of the shops in my area about a year ago. This guy was testing a pallet of Durons, couldn't figure out why none of them worked. Turned out he tested all of them without heatsinks or fans.... |
03:07.58 | linlin | ive only found one local shop around here, and i havnt really been in there much cause they are kinda assholes but they seemed to vaugely know what they were doing |
03:08.47 | bluregard | yeah, I think that's the about the norm. I remember when I worked in a small shop I was/am an asshole too |
03:08.52 | linlin | i'd say maybe 3 steps above geeksquad |
03:09.23 | linlin | heh |
03:09.30 | bluregard | all the geeksquad guys I've seen don't know their ass from an AGP slot |
03:09.38 | linlin | yeah ive got a real problem with dumb people |
03:09.43 | linlin | yup |
03:09.53 | linlin | i got a buddy in geeksquad |
03:09.58 | linlin | nice kid, just an idiot |
03:10.03 | linlin | different type of person |
03:10.14 | linlin | not a hacker at heart |
03:10.37 | bluregard | I see their cars on 94 all the time.. |
03:11.01 | bluregard | I'm usually an asshole and don't let them pass either |
03:11.10 | linlin | hah |
03:13.48 | bluregard | which theater do you manage? |
03:16.21 | linlin | its a Kerasotes |
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03:16.57 | bluregard | sshowplace? |
03:17.37 | linlin | yeah same differnece |
03:18.27 | bluregard | is that the one right off 355 or 88 or something. Up near downers grove? |
03:18.38 | linlin | nah mines in Lake in the hills |
03:18.42 | bluregard | oh |
03:18.46 | linlin | 15 minutes from my house |
03:19.00 | linlin | its a big theater by size, just not too well known |
03:19.04 | bluregard | I used to live up in Winthrop Harbor |
03:19.25 | bluregard | I worked on North Point marina if you know where that is. |
03:19.36 | linlin | nah |
03:20.02 | bluregard | little podunk town with 1 stoplight |
03:25.11 | bluregard | ugh, saturday night and not a damn thing to do |
03:26.56 | linlin | :-/ |
03:28.11 | SplasPood | was there some change with asterisk AEL and macros recently? |
03:28.16 | SplasPood | in 1.4 |
03:29.21 | bluregard | huh |
03:29.56 | wunderkin | lag |
03:30.08 | wunderkin | :P |
03:30.40 | bluregard | don't look at me :p |
03:32.23 | bluregard | well I guess I'm gonna go read |
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03:32.49 | bluregard | later |
03:33.03 | wwalker | anyone know of a soft phone for linux that will work properly with a bluetooth headset via btsco? |
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03:36.58 | linlin | good question |
03:36.58 | linlin | later |
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03:40.16 | SplasPood | hrm, my ael isn't naming macro's with macro- anymore |
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03:59.00 | codefreeze | SplasPood: what's the prob? |
04:00.32 | codefreeze | SplasPood: In the trunk version, we dropped using Macro() to implement macros, in favor of Gosub(). |
04:01.34 | SplasPood | yea |
04:01.38 | SplasPood | I found a mention in CHANGES |
04:01.47 | SplasPood | but ael.txt in doc/ still has no mention |
04:01.51 | SplasPood | as well as the other places I looked :) |
04:05.53 | ManxPower | UPGRADE.txt should mention it. |
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04:13.08 | codefreeze | SplasPood: I just added a sentence or two to the ael.txt in doc/ |
04:17.28 | Supaplex | how do I figure out where this was caused from? Nov 19 04:16:25 NOTICE[3382]: pbx.c:1488 pbx_substitute_variables_helper_full: Error in extension logic (missing '}') |
04:23.32 | codefreeze | SplasPood, ManxPower: Just committed a paragraph in UPGRADE.txt in honor of AEL's use of Gosub. |
04:25.27 | codefreeze | Supaplex: I won't say anything about how, if you used AEL, you would have found and fixed that problem long ago. Look for ${} references that are missing the closing brace. |
04:25.50 | Supaplex | ael? |
04:26.49 | codefreeze | Yes, AEL. Asterisk Extension Language. Look up AEL2 on the voip-info wiki. |
04:27.36 | codefreeze | In the meantime, go thru your extensions.conf file, and for every '{' make sure (absolutely sure) you have a matching '}' |
04:28.39 | SplasPood | codefreeze: :) thanks! |
04:30.29 | SplasPood | In the process of changing all my stuff now |
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04:44.43 | Supaplex | silly question. can an eagi invoke another by issuing EXEC eagi(my.agi|...) "" ? |
04:52.55 | Supaplex | nm, figured out another way to do it. |
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06:09.31 | wunderkin | ... i thought you said strips... |
06:13.14 | mpruett | Guys - When I try to send a sip notify messsage to one of my Sipura devices, I get "401 Unauthorized" message back. Does anyone know why this would happen? The device is working fine otherwise - registration, term, orig, etc.. |
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06:29.34 | CunningPike | mpruett: When a SIP user agent initially makes contact with another, it does so first without authentication. The other UA responds with 401 and adds a nonce (or a kind of key) to the header, and the original UA replies with the credentials and the nonce |
06:29.48 | CunningPike | mpruett: It's all perfectly normal |
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07:55.15 | dlynes_laptop | Are there any zaptel drivers ported to Solaris on the SPARC yet? |
07:57.46 | tzafrir | dlynes_laptop, google for solaris zaptel |
07:58.09 | dlynes_laptop | ah...no way |
07:58.11 | dlynes_laptop | cool |
07:58.14 | tzafrir | There's a group called solaris-voip or something that works on them, among others things |
07:58.31 | dlynes_laptop | I should try slapping one in my netra t1 then :) |
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08:01.56 | Assid | heya |
08:02.03 | Assid | anyone here using trxtel? |
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08:06.28 | shellshark | Assid: i use them for toll free termination |
08:09.31 | Assid | shellshark: cant get incoming calls man |
08:09.34 | Assid | doesnt make sense |
08:09.50 | Assid | nothing on their site. and nothing in my account for this |
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08:11.04 | shellshark | err |
08:11.13 | shellshark | as far as I know, trxtel is for outbound calls only |
08:11.24 | shellshark | and only outbound toll-free calls |
08:15.26 | Assid | nah they give incoming DID's too |
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08:34.41 | Op3r | is 1.4 stable now? |
08:35.49 | hads | It still has beta in it's name, so no. |
08:38.42 | Op3r | ok |
08:38.51 | Op3r | <PROTECTED> |
08:38.52 | Op3r | hehehe |
08:39.07 | Assid | Op3r: should be stable enough |
08:39.12 | Assid | but then thats me |
08:39.29 | Op3r | stable enough to run on a call center environment? |
08:39.44 | Op3r | where the sla should always be 100% damn |
08:39.45 | Op3r | :( |
08:39.53 | Op3r | i hate my job |
08:42.29 | hads | If you want 100% uptime then there is no way you should be thinking about using beta software. |
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09:10.48 | puzzled | hi |
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09:57.23 | tyarli | is there a newbie documentation for asterisk? |
09:58.06 | JT | ~thebook |
09:58.10 | jbot | from memory, thebook is a book called Asterisk: The Future of Telephony which is found at http://www.asteriskdocs.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=11 |
09:58.34 | tyarli | thanks |
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10:02.31 | tyarli | i am reading the book |
10:02.35 | tyarli | am not done with it |
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10:03.05 | tyarli | but...as far as i can tell, it's all about asterisk. i was hoping to see more on what the hardware looks like |
10:03.18 | tyarli | routers, switches, etc. and how they are set up. |
10:03.35 | dlynes_laptop | tyarli: yeah...that just covers the software...correct |
10:03.38 | JT | you mean networking gear? |
10:03.48 | JT | that's sort of out of the scope of asterisk |
10:05.11 | tyarli | yep |
10:05.21 | tyarli | thre is a section in the asterisk.org |
10:05.24 | tyarli | that says hardware |
10:05.25 | dlynes_laptop | tyarli: try http://www.digium.com/en/products/hardware/ for Digium brand products, http://www.sangoma.com/ for Sangoma brand products, and also try www.dlink.com, www.linksys.com, www.polycom.com for a variety of non-board related products |
10:05.37 | tyarli | yep yep. |
10:06.03 | tyarli | in reality...i may need asterisk at all. so i will throw in a basic question for you. |
10:06.18 | dlynes_laptop | tyarli: s/need/not need/? |
10:06.31 | tyarli | hehe |
10:06.32 | tyarli | sorry |
10:06.35 | tyarli | may not need |
10:07.07 | tyarli | say i have a friend in australia...he wants someone to answer his phone which that someone is in the us |
10:07.20 | tyarli | how do i do it? |
10:07.40 | tyarli | and that phone is a regular phone. |
10:07.41 | dlynes_laptop | a friend in australia wants to have his buddy in the US call him? |
10:07.56 | dlynes_laptop | you can use an ata on the asterisk end on the US side |
10:08.12 | dlynes_laptop | or you can use skype's skype-to-pots service |
10:08.14 | tyarli | my friend in australia, has a phone. when the phone rings, he wants his buddy i the us to pick it up |
10:08.28 | tyarli | and answer it for him |
10:08.44 | dlynes_laptop | dood...who's on the analog phone? australia or the us? |
10:08.59 | dlynes_laptop | who's calling who? australia calling us, or us calling australia? |
10:09.07 | dlynes_laptop | You're a little hard to understand |
10:09.07 | tyarli | the regular phone is the one in australia... |
10:09.30 | dlynes_laptop | tyarli: and who's calling who? |
10:09.42 | tyarli | lemme rephrase...sorry guys. |
10:10.45 | tyarli | an analog phone in australia (has a business), he is always out, he wants his friend in the us to pick up his business phne(analog) and answer the calls for him |
10:11.23 | JT | tdm400p on his analogue line in .au, sip or iax voip connection to the us |
10:11.55 | dlynes_laptop | yeah...what jt said |
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10:12.49 | tyarli | the only thing constant is the guy in au has an analogue phone. |
10:13.02 | tyarli | if you want me to get the guy in the us a voip, i would |
10:13.19 | dlynes_laptop | tyarli: yeah...like jt said...you need the fellow on the australian end to be running asterisk |
10:13.25 | tyarli | if the guy in the us has an analog phone and that's enough to serve the purpose, then fine |
10:13.47 | dlynes_laptop | tyarli: doesn't matter whether guy in US has analog or voip |
10:13.49 | JT | the guy can use whatever phone he wants in the us |
10:14.31 | tyarli | so...US: analogue phone>asterisk <<<>>>>asterisk>analogue AU? |
10:14.34 | dlynes_laptop | if the guy in the US has analog, you'll just need to subscribe to a voip provider |
10:15.13 | tyarli | provider such as vonage? |
10:15.31 | dlynes_laptop | AUS analog -> AUS Asterisk -> SIP -> US -> VoIP/analog |
10:15.57 | dlynes_laptop | SIP can be straight connection to the US, or it can be via a voip service provider such as vonage |
10:16.28 | dlynes_laptop | If it's via a voip service provider, you'll probably be paying per minute for the long distance charges |
10:16.29 | tyarli | now that you know my level of understading (very newbie) can you recommend where i start? hehe |
10:16.42 | dlynes_laptop | If it's direct, you pay once for the voip phone and no per minute charges |
10:16.57 | tyarli | cant i just...use a vpn or something |
10:16.58 | tyarli | hehe |
10:17.09 | dlynes_laptop | However, the direct route might not be the most optimal, and you might end up running into service quality issues |
10:17.28 | dlynes_laptop | What would a VPN do? |
10:17.50 | tyarli | like...setup the analog phone in au, vpn to au and access somethng....hehe. to answer the phone? |
10:17.58 | JT | you don't need a vpn |
10:18.06 | JT | you can do SIP or IAX straight over the Internet |
10:18.36 | tyarli | so setup sip in au, connect the analog phone.... |
10:18.56 | JT | the sip will be setup on both ends |
10:19.27 | JT | you'll need to read the book a bit more to see how it all comes together |
10:19.36 | tyarli | and wheni do that...it would seem that am in australia answering and picking up the phone/ |
10:19.41 | dlynes_laptop | tyarli: when yhour friend in au is out of the office, he'll just call forward his phone to the US |
10:19.52 | dlynes_laptop | tyarli: forget the vpn |
10:20.00 | tyarli | dlynes...ok |
10:20.14 | dlynes_laptop | tyarli: do you understand now? |
10:20.14 | tyarli | ok so...i need to know how to setup sip on both sides....does it cost anyting? |
10:20.28 | dlynes_laptop | tyarli: if you're using sip or iax directly no? |
10:20.31 | JT | it won't cost anything if you do all the sip yourself |
10:20.33 | dlynes_laptop | tyarli: erm s/no?/no/ |
10:20.51 | dlynes_laptop | tyarli: I would suggest sip over iax, myself...no point having to set up asterisk on both ends |
10:21.04 | dlynes_laptop | tyarli: the only side that really needs it is the australian end |
10:21.15 | dlynes_laptop | tyarli: and then just get a sip voip phone on the US side |
10:21.39 | tyarli | okay...lemme kill the rabbits one at a time. |
10:21.39 | dlynes_laptop | tyarli: or a SIP analogue terminal adapter so the fellow can plug in his favorite cordless phone |
10:21.46 | tyarli | first i need to know how to setup sip |
10:22.01 | tyarli | i learn sip, then get back to the channel |
10:22.02 | tyarli | hehe |
10:22.04 | dlynes_laptop | tyarli: it's dependent from one phone to the next |
10:22.23 | dlynes_laptop | tyarli: If you're setting up a sipura ata, there's plenty of help on voxilla.com's forums |
10:22.48 | dlynes_laptop | tyarli: otherwise, you can usually get help in here for a lot of sip hardphones and softphones |
10:23.15 | tyarli | yeah, but the direction is sip |
10:23.21 | dlynes_laptop | huh? |
10:23.24 | tyarli | lemme read sip first and then i will ask |
10:23.32 | tyarli | because i cant ask if i dont know what to ask |
10:23.33 | tyarli | hehe |
10:23.37 | dlynes_laptop | correct |
10:23.44 | tyarli | so read sip first? |
10:23.46 | tyarli | okies |
10:23.51 | dlynes_laptop | Nah |
10:23.57 | dlynes_laptop | read up on sip channels on asterisk first |
10:24.06 | dlynes_laptop | and get asterisk up and running |
10:24.14 | tyarli | ahhh... |
10:24.15 | dlynes_laptop | probably be better if you have two asterisk boxes up and running |
10:24.20 | tyarli | sip on asterisk |
10:24.23 | dlynes_laptop | then you can have them talk to each other |
10:24.29 | dlynes_laptop | and understand how to set it up easier |
10:24.40 | dlynes_laptop | cause you probably already have two spare computers you can test with |
10:24.51 | dlynes_laptop | therefore no investment right off the start |
10:25.25 | tyarli | yeah i have two computers |
10:25.27 | dlynes_laptop | Is Mandaluyong City a suburb of Manilla? |
10:25.31 | dlynes_laptop | erm Manila, I mean? |
10:25.38 | tyarli | ahhh.... |
10:25.41 | tyarli | lemme think |
10:25.51 | tyarli | nope...mandaluyong is another city |
10:25.59 | tyarli | but i think they are right beside each other |
10:26.02 | dlynes_laptop | I know Makati is part of Manila...that's why I ask |
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10:26.13 | dlynes_laptop | even though it's called Makati City |
10:26.13 | tyarli | nope makati is not part of manila |
10:26.17 | tyarli | technically |
10:26.22 | dlynes_laptop | Is there two Makatis then? |
10:26.24 | coppice | makati is in the heart on manila |
10:26.54 | tyarli | Manila....is a city. but people here sometimes interchange the metro(which consists of makati, mandaluyong, manila, novaliches, etc) for Manila |
10:27.02 | dlynes_laptop | ah |
10:27.08 | tyarli | they generally call that bunch manila |
10:27.13 | tyarli | or metro manila |
10:27.32 | tyarli | bt there is a city that is manila, which was the first to grow, so to speak |
10:27.37 | dlynes_laptop | Yeah...my friend from the phillippines told me makati is a suburb of manila, and that makati is pretty much the downtown of manila |
10:27.39 | tyarli | :) |
10:27.51 | dlynes_laptop | i.e. the business district |
10:28.07 | tyarli | yeah, that would be true |
10:28.17 | tyarli | Makati is where the big businesses are. |
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10:28.39 | dlynes_laptop | ic |
10:28.48 | tyarli | uve been here? |
10:28.57 | dlynes_laptop | nah |
10:29.00 | dlynes_laptop | my friend just came back |
10:29.03 | tyarli | where u from? |
10:29.03 | dlynes_laptop | she's from there |
10:29.07 | dlynes_laptop | she was telling me about it |
10:29.09 | coppice | but its not where things like the stock exchange are located |
10:29.17 | dlynes_laptop | I'm from Vancouver, Canada |
10:29.18 | tyarli | yep yep...all true |
10:29.22 | tyarli | whre u guys from? |
10:29.34 | tyarli | ahh...canada...cold there huh |
10:29.38 | dlynes_laptop | lots of filipinas here :) |
10:29.39 | tyarli | brrrrr |
10:29.43 | dlynes_laptop | Not here, no |
10:29.46 | dlynes_laptop | the rest of Canada, yes |
10:29.48 | dlynes_laptop | but not Vancouver |
10:29.58 | tyarli | nah...it's still cold there |
10:29.59 | tyarli | hehehe |
10:30.05 | dlynes_laptop | and it's only cold in the rest of Canada during winter, not during summer |
10:30.16 | dlynes_laptop | nah...it's just humid and hot as hell in the phillippines |
10:30.18 | tyarli | for my standards...it is cold |
10:30.22 | dlynes_laptop | doesn't mean it's cold here :) |
10:30.39 | tyarli | well...it's relative |
10:30.39 | tyarli | hehe |
10:30.49 | tyarli | but yeah, i hear ya. |
10:31.12 | dlynes_laptop | yeah...i don't envy you and the humidity :) |
10:31.24 | dlynes_laptop | i wouldn't be able to handle it |
10:31.29 | tyarli | well....same goes here...i dont envy your weather |
10:31.30 | tyarli | hehe |
10:31.48 | tyarli | but i can handle it |
10:31.48 | tyarli | hehe |
10:31.59 | dlynes_laptop | i'm sweating pretty good right now |
10:32.04 | dlynes_laptop | it's not that cold outside |
10:32.11 | coppice | manila weather is not too bad, apart from the typhoons |
10:32.30 | dlynes_laptop | yeah...but you're in hong kong |
10:32.35 | dlynes_laptop | hong kong's even worse, right? |
10:32.48 | coppice | yeah, much |
10:32.51 | tyarli | yeah....that's y God made the bananas grow fast, so that when there is a typhoon they can recover easily |
10:33.00 | dlynes_laptop | hehheeh |
10:33.02 | tyarli | dlynes...me? hongkong? nope |
10:33.04 | tyarli | am in cebu |
10:33.10 | dlynes_laptop | no...coppice is in hk |
10:33.15 | tyarli | ah oks |
10:33.41 | dlynes_laptop | yeah...my friend's husband was telling me about the airprot in cebu |
10:34.00 | dlynes_laptop | he was pretty afraid for his wife going through there...it's quite rough there? |
10:34.36 | tyarli | as i was saying...a friend of mine owns a carpet cleaning company in australia. we are doing telemarketing for him. call clients(homes) if they want their carpets cleaned. were doing it from here in cebu |
10:34.39 | dlynes_laptop | she was apparently getting off the plane in cebu then taking a bus to the ferry, and then taking a ferry to wherever it was she was going |
10:34.43 | tyarli | what do you mean rough? |
10:34.47 | dlynes_laptop | dangerous |
10:34.56 | tyarli | dangerous in what sense? |
10:34.59 | tyarli | weather? |
10:35.00 | dlynes_laptop | i.e. dangerous people |
10:35.07 | dlynes_laptop | guns and that kinda thing |
10:35.07 | coppice | its only dangerous if you are chinese |
10:35.08 | tyarli | nope...theyre not |
10:35.12 | dlynes_laptop | ah |
10:35.15 | dlynes_laptop | or white? |
10:35.26 | coppice | nope, just chinese |
10:35.35 | dlynes_laptop | ah...well, neitehr one of them is chinese |
10:35.42 | dlynes_laptop | one's filipina, the other's caucasian |
10:36.07 | tyarli | there are dangerous people everywhere. hehe. but yeah, you could say it's a tad more dangerous over here. |
10:36.08 | tyarli | hehe |
10:36.14 | tyarli | just a bit. |
10:36.26 | dlynes_laptop | ah...they were describing it like the oakland of the phillippines |
10:36.48 | dlynes_laptop | but then again |
10:36.54 | dlynes_laptop | he tends to overexaggerate a lot, too |
10:37.02 | tyarli | but it's different here...if you are not treated right, the neighbors help you out. crooks fear the community, not the police |
10:38.11 | tyarli | people in the us tend to let the police handle it....people here get out and do something. help each other. it's a close knit community |
10:39.08 | tyarli | it's just our way of doing things, or so i think....hehe |
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10:41.09 | coppice | i hate working in .ph |
10:41.15 | dlynes_laptop | was trying to find my friend's city |
10:41.23 | dlynes_laptop | but I can't even remember what it was, offhand |
10:41.26 | tyarli | coppice...u a filipino? |
10:41.34 | coppice | nope |
10:41.36 | dlynes_laptop | it was about 8 hours from cebu, anyways |
10:41.51 | tyarli | copp, u just hate working in ph? |
10:41.51 | tyarli | hehe |
10:42.12 | tyarli | y is that? |
10:43.07 | tyarli | ahhh...http://www.digium.com/en/products/hardware/tdm2400p.php |
10:43.11 | tyarli | so this is a pci card |
10:43.12 | tyarli | hehe |
10:43.19 | tyarli | you connect the analog phones |
10:43.20 | tyarli | to it |
10:43.21 | tyarli | hehe |
10:43.32 | coppice | its really depressing working in .ph There's corruption everywhere, but its totally out of control in .ph. In most places you pay people off and get the job done. in .ph nobody cares of the job gets done |
10:44.05 | dlynes_laptop | tyarli: correct |
10:44.05 | dlynes_laptop | tyarli: that's a little overkill for you though |
10:44.11 | dlynes_laptop | tyarli: you probably just want an spa-3000 |
10:44.23 | dlynes_laptop | tyarli: do a search for spa-3000 product name on the linksys website |
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10:44.50 | dlynes_laptop | tyarli: it's only for one phone line, right? |
10:44.57 | tyarli | coppice....yeah there is a lot of corruption....and i would think it is everywhere in the world. i could not say i understand how you feel because i have never been in a situatin exactly like yours. |
10:45.13 | tyarli | but i agree, there is a lot of corruption in ph |
10:45.14 | tyarli | hehe |
10:45.45 | tyarli | dlynes....this is 24 lines...how much does this cost? |
10:46.05 | dlynes_laptop | tyarli: your customer in australia has 24 lines? |
10:46.32 | dlynes_laptop | tyarli: that tdm2400p i think is about $120USD without any line modules |
10:46.46 | tyarli | nope...he does not have 24 line |
10:46.48 | tyarli | s |
10:46.52 | tyarli | the card has |
10:46.52 | tyarli | hehe |
10:46.56 | dlynes_laptop | tyarli: it's about $100-120USD for each module...one module handle one phone line or one phone |
10:47.12 | dlynes_laptop | tyarli: how many phone lines does your customer have? |
10:47.13 | tyarli | hmmm...this is interesting....very |
10:47.23 | tyarli | i thnk only one line |
10:47.37 | tyarli | but i will convince him to go into telemarketing business...hehe. |
10:47.40 | dlynes_laptop | tyarli: yeah...go with a sipura 3000 then (called linksys spa-3000 now) |
10:47.49 | tyarli | liekk get a plumbing company to subcontract with us |
10:47.50 | tyarli | hehe |
10:48.00 | dlynes_laptop | tyarli: that'll handle 1 line, and it'll do it much cheaper than a digium or sangoma board |
10:48.21 | dlynes_laptop | tyarli: if he decides to grow later he can get a tdm2400p later |
10:48.27 | tyarli | i dont see any connectors. |
10:48.36 | tyarli | the picture is not that detailed...hehe |
10:48.40 | dlynes_laptop | tyarli: or if you figure that growth is pretty much a sure thing, go with the tdm2400p right off the bat |
10:48.50 | dlynes_laptop | you mean a connector for the 25 pair port? |
10:49.03 | tyarli | yeah... |
10:49.04 | dlynes_laptop | that's called an 'amphenol tail' |
10:49.17 | dlynes_laptop | you can get it from most telecommunications supply wholesalers |
10:49.19 | coppice | .ph should have been the call centre capital of the world. the fact that bangalore actually is can be explained by .ph corruption being much worse than indias |
10:49.25 | tyarli | this is a pci card right? so you just need a pc with a pci card slot |
10:49.32 | dlynes_laptop | tyarli: correct |
10:49.41 | dlynes_laptop | tyarli: i think it's a full length pci card, too |
10:49.52 | dlynes_laptop | tyarli: so you would need a case that can handle the longer cards |
10:50.01 | tyarli | yep yep, i can see its a pci card. hehehe... |
10:50.05 | tyarli | i can open the case |
10:50.05 | tyarli | hehe |
10:50.12 | xheliox | Yeah, it's a full length PCI card, they aren't kidding when they say that. :) |
10:50.32 | dlynes_laptop | tyarli: and if you want to throw it into a 1u or 2u case, you're out of luck |
10:50.50 | tyarli | i will just throw the case out |
10:50.51 | tyarli | hehe |
10:50.51 | dlynes_laptop | tyarli: they don't have a low profile card |
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10:51.28 | tyarli | coppice....sorry to disappoint you man/woman? heheheh |
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10:52.15 | dlynes_laptop | he's a chick |
10:52.25 | tyarli | ahahaha |
10:53.06 | tyarli | sorry manchick, i....dont know what else to do, the issue is bigger than me |
10:53.06 | tyarli | hehe |
10:53.20 | dlynes_laptop | tyarli: nah...he's a guy |
10:53.26 | dlynes_laptop | tyarli: i was just kidding |
10:53.28 | tyarli | am just kidding about the manchick dude...:) |
10:53.36 | tyarli | no offense |
10:53.52 | dlynes_laptop | tyarli: he's the author of all the fax support for asterisk (spandsp) |
10:54.06 | tyarli | wow |
10:54.21 | tyarli | that is sooo....cool |
10:56.04 | dlynes_laptop | man |
10:56.10 | dlynes_laptop | i need to figure out how to use solaris better |
10:56.30 | dlynes_laptop | trying to figure out how to use it so i can get zaptel and asterisk working on a sparc |
10:56.34 | tyarli | heard that java just went public, gpl |
10:56.35 | tyarli | hehe |
10:56.35 | coppice | nobody needs to figure out how to use solaris |
10:56.44 | dlynes_laptop | coppice: why's that? |
10:56.58 | tyarli | i dunno, just read on the news... |
10:57.23 | dlynes_laptop | tyarli: it went gpl? i realize it was going open source...but didn't think it would go gpl |
10:57.28 | tyarli | not quite sure if it was gpl really, but they i remember that they revealed their code |
10:57.33 | tyarli | hehe |
10:57.42 | dlynes_laptop | tyarli: yeah...probably sun's community license, not gpl |
10:57.49 | tyarli | yep yep... |
10:57.57 | tyarli | sorry... |
10:57.59 | dlynes_laptop | tyarli: that's a long stretch from gpl |
10:58.14 | tyarli | yeah...but at least we can look at the code |
10:58.21 | tyarli | it's a help |
10:58.22 | dlynes_laptop | tyarli: you could before |
10:58.38 | dlynes_laptop | tyarli: you just had to sign an nda to get access to it |
10:58.53 | tyarli | non disclosure huh.... |
10:58.57 | dlynes_laptop | tyarli: even recently you could still access it without an nda...but only in parts |
10:59.37 | tyarli | well...nobody needs to disclose it if everyone knows....hehe |
10:59.42 | dlynes_laptop | they've gradually been releasing it under their public license |
10:59.51 | dlynes_laptop | They're doing the same thing with Solaris, too |
11:00.05 | dlynes_laptop | By the end of 2008(?) solaris will be fully opensource |
11:00.23 | dlynes_laptop | Most of it already is fully open |
11:00.38 | tyarli | in any case, it is very nice talking to u guys.... i would return when i have enough reading on asterisk sip. |
11:00.39 | tyarli | hehe |
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11:01.14 | dlynes_laptop | tyarli: ok...like i said...get two asterisk machines set up |
11:01.19 | tyarli | and coppice, sorry for the disappointment on your experience in the phil. and am afraid, i can only do what i can about it |
11:01.30 | dlynes_laptop | tyarli: get a couple of sip softphones set up on some windows boxes |
11:01.39 | dlynes_laptop | tyarli: register the softphones to the asterisk boxes |
11:01.47 | dlynes_laptop | tyarli: and have the two asterisk boxes talk to each other |
11:02.07 | tyarli | yep, i will ask as soon as i have a question |
11:02.08 | dlynes_laptop | tyarli: so that one softphone can call through one asterisk box to the other asterisk box which then calls the other softphone |
11:02.42 | dlynes_laptop | tyarli: set everything up using g.711 ulaw too, to keep everything simple |
11:02.45 | dlynes_laptop | tyarli: g.711 ulaw is a codec for the encoding of the audio |
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11:03.22 | dlynes_laptop | tyarli: also make sure you're not doing any of it over a firewall to start, either |
11:03.28 | dlynes_laptop | tyarli: firewalls only complicate matters |
11:03.45 | JT | g.711 A-law is the standard in Australia and most countries |
11:03.58 | dlynes_laptop | ah, ok |
11:04.04 | dlynes_laptop | thought a-law was only europe |
11:04.13 | JT | no |
11:04.22 | JT | it's the ITU-T international standard |
11:04.26 | dlynes_laptop | ok |
11:04.32 | JT | only usa, canada and a few others use Mu law |
11:04.33 | dlynes_laptop | and ulaw is the ANSI standard? |
11:04.59 | JT | and it's the responsibilities of countries using Mu law to transcode at their international gateways |
11:05.14 | JT | probably, not sure whose it is, but it's the north american standard |
11:06.50 | xheliox | g711u is in the ITU-T standard. They define two algorithms.. ulaw and aulaw. |
11:06.56 | xheliox | alaw* |
11:07.42 | dlynes_laptop | ic |
11:08.14 | xheliox | Though he's right, ulaw is only really used in North America and Japan. |
11:08.28 | JT | it's really "Mu law", btw :P |
11:08.49 | JT | A law companding is the international standard |
11:08.52 | JT | japan's a weird one |
11:08.58 | xheliox | it's also 6am and I haven't been to bed ;) |
11:09.05 | JT | they use Mu law companding on a 30C channel bearer |
11:09.06 | JT | hence J1 |
11:09.12 | JT | 30B |
11:09.23 | xheliox | so anything I'm saying can easily be assumed is coming out of my ass (more so than usual). |
11:09.27 | coppice | japan uses the same mu-law codec as the US |
11:09.38 | JT | i just said that |
11:09.43 | JT | but not on T1s |
11:09.45 | JT | J1s |
11:09.48 | JT | 30B + 1D |
11:10.03 | coppice | J1 is 23B + 1D |
11:10.23 | coppice | the difference between T1 and J1 is very small |
11:10.36 | JT | err |
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11:34.02 | manopulus | hello. installing 1.4. doing make menuselect and have this option : XXX 6. cdr_radius, Depends on: radius. what i should install to have it? |
11:37.06 | dlynes_laptop | manopulus: a radius server |
11:37.28 | dlynes_laptop | manopulus: try checking the makefile...it might be looking for openradius, specifically |
11:37.44 | dlynes_laptop | manopulus: www.openradius.org |
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11:48.32 | jserve | Hi all |
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12:15.52 | Sylter | Hi all! |
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12:16.56 | Sylter | I'm tring to install zaptel in a RHE 4.0 |
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12:17.08 | Sylter | I'm getting the next missage |
12:17.27 | Sylter | You do not appear to have the sources for the 2.6.9-42.ELsmp kernel installed. |
12:17.27 | Sylter | make: *** [linux26] Error 1 |
12:17.35 | xheliox | Sylter: You don't have your kernel-devel packages installed. |
12:17.43 | Sylter | :( |
12:17.45 | xheliox | up2date -i kernel-smp-devel |
12:17.49 | Sylter | I install all |
12:17.50 | xheliox | that should take care of you. |
12:18.14 | xheliox | What's the output of: rpm -q kernel-smp-devel |
12:18.17 | Sylter | ok, I will try thanks |
12:18.49 | Sylter | [root@localhost zaptel-1.2.11]# rpm -q kernel-smp-devel |
12:18.50 | Sylter | kernel-smp-devel-2.6.9-42.0.3.EL |
12:19.23 | xheliox | Looks like you haven't rebooted since a kernel upgrade. :) |
12:19.27 | xheliox | uname -a |
12:19.50 | Sylter | [root@localhost zaptel-1.2.11]# uname -a |
12:19.50 | Sylter | Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.9-42.ELsmp #1 SMP Wed Jul 12 23:27:17 EDT 2006 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux |
12:19.50 | Sylter | [root@localhost zaptel-1.2.11]# |
12:20.30 | xheliox | See.. you're running the 42.ELsmp.... but you have the devel libs for 42.0.3.EL (newer) installed. |
12:20.48 | Sylter | OK, I know, I upgrade and I didn't rebot |
12:21.02 | xheliox | So if you reboot and boot to the 42.0.3.EL kernel, you'll be fine. |
12:21.12 | Sylter | thanks |
12:21.20 | xheliox | No prob. |
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12:28.43 | Sylter | Thanks <xhelios>, :) done |
12:32.27 | xheliox | :) good deal. |
12:32.44 | dlynes_laptop | xheliox: i see we still get the peeps streaming in with the same rhel problem over and over and over again, eh? |
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12:33.14 | dlynes_laptop | kinda figured after a two month hiatus it would have dissipated, but i guess not |
12:33.24 | xheliox | Why would it? |
12:34.30 | dlynes_laptop | figured the question would have been asked enough times, peeps would be able to find it on a simple google search |
12:35.57 | xheliox | He did everything right, he just forgot to reboot. ;) |
12:36.08 | dlynes_laptop | yep |
12:38.02 | dlynes_laptop | blah |
12:38.09 | dlynes_laptop | just ran out of worcestshire sauce :((( |
12:38.18 | xheliox | OH NO! The horror. |
12:38.27 | dlynes_laptop | yeah...eggs kinda suck without it :(( |
12:39.54 | xheliox | If you make decent eggs, they shouldn't. :) |
12:40.23 | dlynes_laptop | nah...gotta have the spices and the salt :) |
12:40.29 | dlynes_laptop | makes it taste better :) |
12:41.32 | dlynes_laptop | i cook it up with fish flavored tofu, vegetables, hash browns, mixed vegetables and olive oil...but i still add the worcestershire :) |
12:41.54 | xheliox | You lost me at tofu. |
12:42.05 | dlynes_laptop | dood...fish flavored tofu doesn't even taste like tofu |
12:42.29 | xheliox | yeah, what's what all you tofu eaters say, I've tried it several different ways/styles.. and it's all just as bad as the next. :P |
12:42.42 | dlynes_laptop | xheliox: have you ever had hot pot? |
12:43.08 | dlynes_laptop | xheliox: i only have it chinese style...north american style sucks |
12:43.18 | xheliox | I don't believe so. |
12:43.20 | dlynes_laptop | xheliox: north american style has zero flavor for the tofu...it's gross |
12:43.34 | xheliox | Ok. If you say so. :) |
12:43.40 | dlynes_laptop | but chinese style is delicious |
12:43.49 | dlynes_laptop | becuase it takes on the flavor of everything around it |
12:44.23 | dlynes_laptop | anyways...if you ever have chinese hot pot, you'll find a whole bunch of round things that you throw into the soup |
12:44.34 | dlynes_laptop | a lot of those round things are just flavored tofu |
12:45.31 | xheliox | now you're making me hungry |
12:45.34 | xheliox | not for tofu though |
12:45.40 | dlynes_laptop | heh |
12:46.03 | dlynes_laptop | i guess you live somewhere where there isn't any exposure to authentic asian food? |
12:46.21 | xheliox | I don't know if I'd say that. |
12:46.46 | dlynes_laptop | well, just kinda figured that cause you'd never heard of chinese hot pot |
12:46.50 | xheliox | But I'm not exactly in diversity land. We have more chain restaurants than anything. |
12:47.08 | dlynes_laptop | chinese hot pot's a pretty common type of food |
12:47.26 | dlynes_laptop | but it's not available in the mid-west |
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14:23.23 | robin_sz | so ... assuming I am running Asterisk 1.2.9.1 ... what sexy GUI's are there to add that wil show Whats Going On on the system ... GUIs that actually work as opposed to ones which dont work are preferred |
14:29.59 | bluregard | I usually prefer UI's that don't work |
14:39.12 | robin_sz | well, you are in luck, because there seem to be lots of them! |
14:40.56 | robin_sz | if you like non-working things, wanna buy some GXP2000s? |
14:41.20 | bluregard | no, I just bought an IP 501 |
14:42.08 | robin_sz | does it work? |
14:42.21 | bluregard | don't have it yet, should be here Tues |
14:42.48 | robin_sz | GXP2000s are great |
14:43.01 | bluregard | have you tried FOP, Flash Operator Panel? I haven't tried it, but I remember seeing it mentioned in the book. |
14:43.27 | bluregard | www.asternic.org |
14:43.34 | robin_sz | you can use GXP200s to stop cars rolling back when you take the parking brake off |
14:45.14 | robin_sz | I looked at FOP, but its just a kit for GUI developers, not acutally a working GUI |
14:47.06 | bluregard | not sure then. I just use the CLI. |
14:47.48 | robin_sz | me too |
14:48.06 | robin_sz | but i wanted someting more glitzy for the pbx girly |
14:48.08 | Corydon76-home | FOP is actually a working GUI, you just need to customize it for your installation |
14:48.56 | robin_sz | is theres some script to parse the config files and do thtat by magici? |
14:49.31 | Corydon76-home | Nope, you just have to edit the files by hand |
14:49.54 | robin_sz | yeuww |
14:50.47 | robin_sz | sounds about as much funs as shuttingyour finger in the deskl drawer |
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14:53.20 | Corydon76-home | Overdramatic, don't you think? |
14:53.20 | knarfly | If I have X101P card installed do I still need to load ztdummy? |
14:53.43 | Corydon76-home | knarfly: No, an X101P will generate the necessary timing by itself |
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15:04.29 | bluregard | man, config files aren't that bad. And if you enjoy slamming your fingers in desk drawers that may be why you have trouble typing.... |
15:04.39 | robin_sz | hmmm |
15:05.56 | robin_sz | the thing is .. you are just copying info out of your asterisk config files and putting it in another format, and then trying to remember to ekkp them roughly sync'd |
15:06.32 | robin_sz | oh well. |
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15:44.58 | MikeB | Hello, I have been havig fun getting the B410P working can now make and receive calls, One Problem, it seems to crash, possible a kernel bug and then a reboot is required. I was hoping to install this into a production system Monday but and now very worried, Could someone help me please? |
15:45.44 | MikeB | I normally used the Junghanns Cards but wanted to support Digium now there is an ISDN2 card. |
15:47.59 | MikeB | Im normally okay with error messages but at this level ( lots of hex ) I dont know where to start, FC5, 2.6.18-1.2239.FC5SMP Asterisk 1.2.13 , happy to give ssh access to anyone that can help, Please.... |
15:56.11 | MikeB | <PROTECTED> |
15:56.23 | MikeB | kernel: EIP: [<c04e8261>] __list_add+0x49/0x62 SS:ESP 0068:f683be3c |
15:56.29 | MikeB | Please Help |
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16:16.08 | JT | MikeB: hrm, sorry i can't help there |
16:16.14 | JT | definately sounds kernel module related |
16:17.21 | MikeB | Yeah, I think so, Im just trying to 2.6.18.3 fro kernel.org but when we tried FC6, misdn would not complie, and so Digium Support said use FC5 whic does |
16:20.04 | MikeB | I dont mind which release of Linux I used or which kernel version I happy to change as long as it works but it seems like the guy I spoke to has given up and so I dont know what to do next ( short of order junghans BRI card ) |
16:21.06 | MikeB | Thanks for saying hi, its getting kind of lonley here as I sing deeper into a pit of dispare. Was Supposed to install this tomorrow. |
16:28.53 | shido6 | hrmm |
16:29.02 | MikeB | Indeed |
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16:34.12 | shido6 | f*ck it.. whats the error again? |
16:34.47 | MikeB | shido6: kobject_add failed for... |
16:35.01 | MikeB | Happens after 2nd of 3rd call on bri, |
16:35.26 | MikeB | Dont try and register things with the same name in the same directory"... |
16:36.34 | shido6 | can u pastebin kobject.h ? |
16:36.42 | shido6 | your kobject.h |
16:38.25 | MikeB | Shido6 I have /usr/src/kernels/2.6.18-1.2239.fc5-i686/include/linux/kobject.h |
16:38.27 | MikeB | /usr/src/kernels/2.6.18-1.2239.fc5-smp-i686/include/linux/kobject.h Which one? |
16:38.54 | shido6 | uname -a |
16:38.57 | shido6 | which one are you running? |
16:39.47 | MikeB | 2.6.18-1.2239.fc5smp oh sorry |
16:40.00 | shido6 | no problem... pastebin.. :) |
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16:43.13 | shido6 | ZzzzZ |
16:43.24 | MikeB | shido6 http://pastebin.com/828156 |
16:43.31 | MikeB | pastebin is slowwwwwww |
16:43.43 | JT | pastebin.ca |
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16:44.12 | MikeB | ah sorry. |
16:44.22 | MikeB | will post it there too if you want. |
16:44.38 | JT | sorry, i;m not actually looking at it |
16:44.41 | JT | about to head off |
16:45.19 | MikeB | Thanks JT, |
16:46.32 | MikeB | http://pastebin.ca/252486 |
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16:54.12 | Xen^ | mog : arround ? |
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17:14.35 | file | [TK]D-Fender: !!! |
17:20.16 | [TK]D-Fender | *yawn* |
17:21.09 | Sylter | hi |
17:21.35 | file | [TK]D-Fender: I agree. |
17:22.12 | Sylter | Can I connect the PSTN line and a anonalogue fhone in the same x101p card? |
17:26.00 | [TK]D-Fender | Sylter : Sure. Just don't expect to do anything USEFUL with the phone. |
17:26.11 | Sylter | mmmmmmmmmmm |
17:26.13 | [TK]D-Fender | Sylter : the X101P is NOT an FXS interface |
17:26.51 | Sylter | I am just asking that, because thsi card has two RJ11, one for LINE and other for PHONE |
17:27.23 | [TK]D-Fender | Sylter : the phone is jsuta pass-through as the card is effectively a cheap win-modem. |
17:27.34 | Sylter | them I'm not sure if I can use the same FXO for the LINE and for a fix phone |
17:28.29 | Sylter | yeah, then this means, that if I want to do that I need two X101P cards, or just left this cad with the PSTN line and redirect to the IP phones |
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17:29.43 | [TK]D-Fender | Sylter : Do you have 2 phone lines? |
17:29.45 | z0d1ac_19 | Does anyone use sellvoip.net? |
17:30.20 | Sylter | no, I only have one PSTN line |
17:31.02 | [TK]D-Fender | Sylter : then you aren't listening. you cannot plug PHONES into X101P's. they are only for LINES. |
17:31.09 | Sylter | but I think that if I only have one X101P CARD, then I can't use a fix phone, (analogue phone) |
17:31.44 | Sylter | yeah, but I can identify two RJ11 connectors, one for LINE and other for PHONE |
17:32.21 | file | the phone is hardwired to the line |
17:32.30 | [TK]D-Fender | Sylter : Listen to me. the most it will do is ring when the line is ringing. if * answers the line then the phone attached becomes useless. Do you follow me? |
17:32.40 | Sylter | yeah, I suppose that |
17:33.51 | Sylter | yes [TK]D-Feder, I have to use an IP phone and use this X101P card as PSTN gateway only |
17:35.54 | [TK]D-Fender | Sylter : Thats all its good for. |
17:36.22 | [TK]D-Fender | Sylter : if you want to use analog phonoes with * get an ATA or a TDM400P w/ FXS modules (I suggest the former) |
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17:39.03 | Sylter | no, I don't want to get an ATA or TDM400P, I only want to know if it is posible to use the same card for two pourpouse, but as fiel said, it is hardwired to the line, then it si not usefull |
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17:51.12 | [TK]D-Fender | Sylter : Thats about right. |
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17:51.51 | zippytech | any one know anyting about dundi |
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17:52.00 | epablo | Hi people. How's it going? |
17:53.07 | file | it.... goes! |
17:54.35 | epablo | I'm having some trouble with DTMF on an E1 (ISDN). Any pointers on what to look for? |
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17:57.28 | epablo | I tested it on a another machine with a dialogic card and envox4.x and it works fine :s |
17:58.27 | [TK]D-Fender | epablo : How about describing the actual probem.... |
17:59.34 | epablo | D-Fender: Ok. I place or recieve a call I hook it up with an IVR. I'm not getting all de DMTF or sometimes it repeats numbers.. |
17:59.50 | [TK]D-Fender | epablo : What are your gains set to? |
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18:00.47 | epablo | I set up a simple test. A make call file that hooks the user up to the vm. In order see what he gets.. and well normally I loose a couple digits.. on the way |
18:01.13 | [TK]D-Fender | epablo : ...... |
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18:02.43 | epablo | It's set to 0 db |
18:06.15 | [TK]D-Fender | epablo : Try setting relaxdtmf=yes |
18:06.49 | epablo | D-Fender: On the dialogic the is a setting which I don't understand: E1 (120 ohm) pulse template. Must be used for all E1 ISDN. Any idea what that means? |
18:07.11 | epablo | D-Fender: Did that, and it got better.. but still is not good enough |
18:09.15 | [TK]D-Fender | epablo : Time to start playing with gains a bit. Try sending the call direct to an extensions and if it sounds hi/low then adjust accordingly. Naturally you'll want to test DTMF there as well. |
18:10.37 | epablo | The E1 goes strait to PSTN.. no extensions. When you refer to gains.. we are talking about the LBO, right? |
18:11.12 | epablo | The setup is E1 -> SIP extensions. |
18:11.33 | [TK]D-Fender | epablo : No I mean txgain/rxgain in zapata |
18:11.49 | [TK]D-Fender | epablo : And you just contradicted yourself. |
18:12.23 | [TK]D-Fender | epablo : You have extensions on your * server with the E1 right? |
18:12.55 | epablo | Yes |
18:13.59 | epablo | Sorry.. I have an * GW with a TE2100P using 1 E1. That works as our PBX. All extensions are SIP |
18:16.01 | epablo | The DTMF test I've been doing are from the PSTN.. I call in and test with the voicemail application. When you type a wrong password. You get that on the CLI (debug) |
18:18.05 | epablo | Do I make some sense now? Sorry if I mislead you |
18:18.15 | [TK]D-Fender | epablo: I'm saying to answer a call with an extension and listen to the DTMF to hear if its sounds broken up |
18:18.20 | [TK]D-Fender | or too low/high |
18:19.42 | epablo | Ok let me see |
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18:29.27 | drcode | hi all |
18:30.17 | epablo | D-Fender: DTMF sounds terible.. all I get are weird sounds |
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18:36.20 | [TK]D-Fender | epablo : And actual voice? |
18:37.05 | epablo | Yeap that works ok |
18:40.00 | epablo | D-Fender: ok.. I found another problem Which I consider weird, but should be related. When I place outgoing calls there is one local phone company to were it does not work, but when I tested it with the Dialogic board it works just fine |
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18:42.32 | epablo | This is what I get: http://pastebin.ca/252574 |
18:45.43 | zippytech | i have setup an account with broadvoice but when i callin i cannot seem to got get any numbers for an extension to work? all else seems to work fine, |
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18:47.05 | jserve | Hi all |
18:47.22 | epablo | Hi.. hows it going? |
18:48.37 | gkugel | hi all. does anyone know how/if i can send a SIP MESSAGE 302 when dialling out using sip? |
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19:15.20 | epablo | D-Fender: I'm using the ztmonitor to check the gains.. What should the good levels be? |
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19:17.37 | yassine | hi everyone |
19:18.30 | yassine | imhaving this problem while trying to install zaptell on a Debian Etch box : Zaptel telephony kernel driver: FATAL: Module ztdummy not found. any ideas which package contains it ? |
19:24.25 | MikeB | ztdummy is build by zaptel are you building from source or using some kind of dpkg? |
19:26.00 | MikeB | shido6: If you still here, Thanks for your help, I build 2.6.17.14 kernel from Scratch seems to be working! But lots of debug messages to the console which I cant seem to swtich off. |
19:26.01 | bluregard | does anyone know if there is a way to see which highlite/colorization vi is using? |
19:26.55 | MikeB | JT: Thanks for your help too, Tried to use bristuff but wont see card despite alrtering the code |
19:28.28 | shido6 | kewl |
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19:33.10 | linagee | hah. wow. i guess if there is one more nail to be put in the coffin of "using caller ID for authentication", this is it. slashdot: "New Google Service Manipulates Caller-ID For Free" |
19:33.46 | shido6 | that might not be there for long |
19:33.50 | linagee | so i guess now the whole world can fsck around with the outgoing caller id |
19:34.01 | linagee | not just elite asterisk and t1 owners. |
19:34.03 | shido6 | they'll get tired of being visited by the FBI |
19:35.05 | linagee | shido6: manipulating caller id for free has a certain charm to it if you've never heard of the idea before |
19:35.30 | shido6 | till the men in black with white/yellow acronyms show up at your door |
19:36.20 | linagee | shido6: "What if someone enters my phone number instead of theirs as a prank call?" "Google takes fraud and spamming very seriously. We use technical methods to prevent future prank calls from the same user within a reasonable period of time. You won't be charged for any such calls." |
19:36.35 | shido6 | cant catch em all |
19:36.41 | shido6 | and all u need is one |
19:37.07 | shido6 | lots of idiot companies use caller id as a way to id you |
19:37.18 | tzafrir_laptop | yassine, installing from packages? |
19:37.25 | shido6 | that and a little social engineering can get you pretty far. |
19:37.26 | tzafrir_laptop | yassine, m-a a-i zaptel |
19:37.30 | linagee | shido6: really. what if some highschool student were to fake outgoing id to 911 and call some senior citizens and kill them because they had a heart attack when someone started breathing heavy and making scary demonic threats at the other end? |
19:37.31 | rob0 | "Google takes fraud and spamming very seriously ..." yeah right. Just try making a report to abuse@gmail.com some time. |
19:37.41 | yassine | tzafrir_laptop, yes |
19:37.53 | rob0 | Maybe they mean they make money from fraud and spamming. |
19:37.56 | linagee | shido6: something like, "this is the police. we are here to take your soul!" |
19:38.47 | shido6 | naah... just buy a suite and state your case... I was prank calling the bank cuz my gf works there.... and um.. well ....... ( dodges book ) |
19:38.48 | linagee | shido6: one thing to remember is that google is just a node in the phone network, right? what if other phone networks start banning them? hah |
19:38.59 | shido6 | err |
19:39.00 | shido6 | suit |
19:39.03 | shido6 | i need food |
19:39.09 | robin_sz | it s NOT the "pound key" .. why does she keep sying that? |
19:39.26 | linagee | robin_sz: octothorpe. :p |
19:39.32 | shido6 | because she cant pronounce octothorpe without the octothorpe.gsm |
19:39.48 | shido6 | heh |
19:39.51 | linagee | robin_sz: tick tack toe symbol. :) |
19:40.02 | robin_sz | its the "hash key" if anything |
19:40.09 | shido6 | "number sign" |
19:40.18 | linagee | robin_sz: pound key. only people in europe say hash key. :p |
19:40.18 | robin_sz | it doesnt even look like a pound symbol |
19:40.33 | robin_sz | £ <- pound sign |
19:40.38 | linagee | robin_sz: people from the US don't use pounds for money |
19:40.52 | shido6 | some do. |
19:41.02 | shido6 | ounces , too |
19:41.10 | shido6 | pounds are regerred to as "L's" |
19:41.16 | robin_sz | whatever |
19:41.17 | linagee | shido6: i suppose if you're talking about pounds of gold. |
19:41.22 | shido6 | where's that candybar |
19:41.24 | tzafrir_laptop | robin_sz, but it is pound on uk keyboard, isn't it? |
19:41.32 | linagee | shido6: look in your virtualizer. |
19:41.38 | robin_sz | tzafrir_laptop, no its not |
19:41.40 | linagee | shido6: it should be printing out momentarily. |
19:41.47 | shido6 | thanks. |
19:41.54 | robin_sz | tzafrir_laptop, POUND ON A uk KEYBOARD IS £ |
19:42.00 | robin_sz | oopsie |
19:42.10 | linagee | shido6: hrm... computer controlled chocolate tip.... candy cad!!!! what an excellent idea! :) |
19:42.13 | shido6 | no... in the 'hood u can use pounds of green to get a load of stuff done. |
19:42.23 | Qwell | robin_sz: Set(LANGUAGE=en_UK) |
19:42.24 | Qwell | :P |
19:42.29 | robin_sz | and strangely, people in the UK use £ for money |
19:42.32 | tzafrir_laptop | but the same place (and hence the name) |
19:42.43 | robin_sz | Qwell, im in the UK and £ looks like £ and its perfectly correct |
19:42.50 | linagee | robin_sz: i have no "squigy L" character on my keyboard |
19:42.55 | shido6 | anyone in canada? |
19:43.12 | Qwell | robin_sz: Your chars aren't coming through at all... |
19:43.14 | zippytech | any one played with dundi |
19:43.29 | linagee | pound is used for weight |
19:43.42 | linagee | grams are only used by drug dealers |
19:43.46 | robin_sz | linagee, no its not .. £ is not used for weight ever anywhere |
19:44.04 | robin_sz | lbs is used for weight |
19:44.11 | linagee | liters are only used for alcohol and soda |
19:44.25 | robin_sz | lbs is pounds ltrs is litres |
19:44.28 | shido6 | there is no replacement for displacement |
19:44.42 | linagee | shido6: sure. just use the number of moles. :) |
19:44.56 | linagee | measure the molarity of soda. :) |
19:45.04 | shido6 | ive been away from skewl far too long. |
19:45.07 | linagee | 6.25 x 10^23? |
19:45.12 | linagee | something like that |
19:45.20 | linagee | avogadro's number |
19:46.21 | linagee | "Here's how it works: Click the phone icon or call link, and you'll be invited to enter your own phone number into a special field." |
19:46.23 | tzafrir_laptop | linagee, just set your keyboard to "gb" and it will have a £ |
19:46.25 | linagee | (google call) |
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19:46.47 | linagee | enter your own phone number = enter the number you want your caller id to appear as |
19:47.11 | Qwell | linagee: and if you enter somebody elses number...how do you expect to be able to answer? |
19:47.24 | linagee | Qwell: they should at least have some dial back verification. |
19:47.32 | linagee | Qwell: any smart system would do that |
19:47.56 | linagee | Qwell: like, enter your number here. ok, to make sure you weren't lying, we're going to call the number. please enter this authentication code... |
19:48.17 | clive- | does anyone know of a reputable company that can offer international toll-free numbers for calling cards ? |
19:48.47 | linagee | Qwell: and then rate limit the authentication process too. |
19:49.07 | linagee | i guess that would be too hard / make too much sense |
19:50.51 | Qwell | completely offtopic: Whoever decided that on osx, to unmount a device, you have to drag it to the trash icon...should be taken out to a field somewhere and shot |
19:51.27 | shido6 | y? |
19:53.43 | Qwell | because users are stupid :p |
19:53.57 | Qwell | "This game won't close...I bet I have to drag it to the trash!" |
19:54.03 | shido6 | LOL |
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20:04.20 | clive- | hi adorah |
20:04.38 | adorah | Hi wassup? |
20:04.54 | clive- | just chilling out after a hectoc weekend |
20:04.55 | clive- | :) |
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20:06.26 | VoIPMasta | Hi there |
20:06.48 | VoIPMasta | Does anyone know if there's a way to skip having to create context in extensions.conf while using real time? |
20:08.11 | [TK]D-Fender | VoIPMasta : Sure. Install GGC and start modding it yourself :) |
20:08.19 | VoIPMasta | ggc? |
20:09.10 | VoIPMasta | [TK]D-Fender: what's ggc? |
20:11.34 | VoIPMasta | [TK]D-Fender: What I'm trying to do, is that if I modify an extension in the database to do a Goto anothercontext|s|1, I want to be able to start anothercontext right into the database without modifying the extensions.conf file |
20:13.36 | [TK]D-Fender | GCC* |
20:15.41 | linagee | wait i don't get this... google will be connecting you to advertisers. will they be using voip? how will you pay the advertiser? CC#? that's evil if it's not encrypted... |
20:16.22 | VoIPMasta | mmm it's doable... however I'm not entirely sure if it's going to be possible to have it done today :( |
20:17.36 | VoIPMasta | the best fix I can think of right now is to add a huge amount of generic contexts in extensions.conf, each one with it's own switch statement... and to use them as needed |
20:17.53 | Sylter | hello all |
20:18.59 | Sylter | How can I know if Asterisk is receiving a call from a Zaptel HW |
20:19.01 | Sylter | ?? |
20:19.10 | VoIPMasta | dial in and do a show channels |
20:19.36 | Sylter | I can see activity with ztmonitor, but I don't know if the call is going to asterisk, tehre is any log file where I can check taht |
20:19.52 | VoIPMasta | in /var/log/asterisk/messages |
20:20.03 | VoIPMasta | but you can always turn on verbosity in asterisk and see it in the console |
20:20.08 | Sylter | :( there is nothing in messages |
20:20.21 | VoIPMasta | connect to your asterisk server using -rvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv |
20:20.37 | VoIPMasta | that will show you almost everything that's going on in asterisk in real time |
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20:20.46 | Sylter | I run asterisk in this mode |
20:21.03 | VoIPMasta | or browse your CDR |
20:21.26 | VoIPMasta | if you are using CSV it's also in /var/log/asterisk otherwise it's in your database |
20:21.47 | VoIPMasta | you should see the calls processed there, as well as the channel they originated in |
20:23.07 | Sylter | I think that maybe there is a mistake in the zapata.conf file, because I can see anything in the asterisk console |
20:23.27 | Sylter | but I can chek it with ztmonitor and it is working |
20:25.28 | VoIPMasta | [TK]D-Fender: is there a way to use a variable while naming a context in extensions.conf? I think that could solve my issue |
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20:29.04 | Sylter | *CLI> show channels |
20:29.04 | Sylter | Channel Location State Application(Data) |
20:29.04 | Sylter | 0 active channels |
20:29.04 | Sylter | 0 active calls |
20:29.56 | VoIPMasta | is it ok to use [${foo}] as a context name? |
20:30.02 | VoIPMasta | in extensions.conf |
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20:31.14 | [TK]D-Fender | VoIPMasta : Nope. |
20:32.00 | [TK]D-Fender | VoIPMasta : HARDCODE. Thats it. Period. Realtime is not 100% dynamic. You want to change it, start programming in "C" and rewrite it yourself. |
20:32.47 | VoIPMasta | [TK]D-Fender: I will do so, I was just looking for a "quick fix" so that I can finish setting up this * box today :) |
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21:10.45 | high-rez | Does Zaptel work on x86-64? |
21:10.51 | high-rez | Or should I be running a 32bit kernel? |
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21:15.41 | z0d1ac_19 | is SetCallerID gone in version 1.4? |
21:15.59 | Assid | what? dont think so |
21:16.13 | Assid | you should try Set(callerid(number)) |
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21:20.02 | bluregard | isn't it Set(CALLERID(num))? |
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21:20.25 | tim0123 | Hello guys |
21:20.45 | tim0123 | Anyone know much about agi script |
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21:21.43 | tim0123 | anybody there |
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21:22.48 | uwe | hello, i have a tiger3xx interface with 3 fxo modules, currently testing one of them, im facing a problem that it doesnt hangup when the caller hangs up, and thus the line is kept busy, and asterisks keeps ringing the group, if the other side hangs up, ie if the call was answered and then hanged up via the ip phone, the line is hanged up, any idea why this happens, and how to solve it? |
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21:25.25 | tim0123 | anyone know about agi say datetime in paticular |
21:25.51 | clive- | tim just try it until it does what you want |
21:26.29 | tim0123 | well the prob is that i give a date from mysql and it says wrong date |
21:27.18 | tim0123 | Does it have to be in a specific format |
21:27.30 | uwe | and im starting it with ksfxs in zaptel.conf (fxs singnalling for fxo) |
21:28.12 | clive- | tmi I have no idea, I dont use that feature, but I am sure if you change the format and play around it will eventuially work....or look at the source |
21:29.25 | tim0123 | whats UTC |
21:29.37 | uwe | or should it be set in the zapata.conf (busydetect) ? |
21:30.31 | clive- | ~google UTC |
21:30.41 | tim0123 | I did |
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21:31.01 | tim0123 | It kinda confusing |
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21:32.09 | tim0123 | anyone know about agi say datetime in paticular |
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21:32.49 | Assid | hrmm anyone know any place for free DID's like trxtel |
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21:39.42 | Sylter | uuuffffffffff |
21:39.44 | Sylter | shiiitttttt |
21:39.53 | [TK]D-Fender | uwe : You need to have your telco enable call-disconnect supervision on your lines |
21:41.18 | epablo | D-Fender: I checked the gain levels on my E1 and they are high.. using ztmonitor the normally go to the top. Do you think that could be what's giving problems with DTMF? |
21:41.24 | Sylter | what a stupid mistake, if you have a x100p card connected to the PSTN and a fix phone conected to the same card,(because has two RJ11) |
21:41.37 | Sylter | Asterisk is not able to understand anything |
21:41.46 | uwe | [TK]D-Fender, thank you, ive been reading here http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+Disconnect+Supervision , not understanding much thoug ! ill check the telcom company if they support call-disconnect supervision, ive tried the suggestions on that page, no luck so far |
21:42.36 | Sylter | but if you unplag the fix phone all work properlly |
21:43.32 | [TK]D-Fender | uwu : If you want to bypass the propermethod fo indicating call-disconnect the option you are looking for is "callprogress=yes", but that often leads to random disconnects as * misinterprets the cut-off |
21:43.56 | [TK]D-Fender | epablo : I'd bet on it. |
21:44.19 | [TK]D-Fender | Sylter : "not able to understand anything"? |
21:44.38 | [TK]D-Fender | Sylter : And you really shouldn't be plugging anything else into that card anyways |
21:45.08 | lesouvage | Sylter: an x100p card is not ment to connect an incoming line and a phone. This has nothing to do with "a stupid mistake" |
21:45.24 | Sylter | yes, In my opinion, if I connect the PSTN and activetaed that to work with asterisk, it should be possible to get the call from asterisk or from a fix phone |
21:45.53 | VoIPMasta | see you all later |
21:45.56 | Sylter | no, I mean that this X100P card have two RJ11 connectors |
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21:46.16 | Assid | hrmm anyone used voicestick? |
21:46.19 | Sylter | then I can connect the PSTN in one, named LINE and my old fix phone in the other, named PHONE |
21:46.22 | uwe | thank you [TK]D-Fender |
21:46.32 | [TK]D-Fender | Sylter : Its just a dumb win-modem, and nowhere does any * guide say that you can use the the other jack for anything. |
21:47.09 | Sylter | but if I connect my phone, asterisk don't receive anything |
21:47.18 | [TK]D-Fender | Sylter : And I wouldn't qualify your previous statement as an "opinion", more like "guess" as its rather unqualified. |
21:47.35 | [TK]D-Fender | Sylter : Don't try to use if for more than it was stated to be used for. |
21:47.52 | Sylter | yeah, you are right, <[TK]D-Fender> |
21:48.18 | lesouvage | Sylter: you can do this at your walloutlet but not with your x100p card. Originally the card was ment for something else, that's why there is a phone connection on the card. |
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21:51.12 | Qwell | That's funny... I just saw a Sprint commercial, and they're advertising their number as "1-8-sprint-biz" |
21:52.07 | *** join/#asterisk mavior (n=Miranda@88-149-161-93.f5.ngi.it) |
21:52.23 | mavior | hello everybody |
21:52.30 | z0d1ac_19 | hey mav |
21:53.07 | Qwell | which is just 1-877-pint-biz |
21:54.14 | mavior | i'm new to ast |
21:54.17 | mavior | erisk |
21:54.25 | mavior | and i got a small problem here |
21:54.45 | mavior | :P |
21:55.05 | lesouvage | mavior: what's your question |
21:55.25 | z0d1ac_19 | is there an easier way to create a speed dial than to exten => 9999,1,Dial(SIP/blahblahblah)?\ |
21:55.36 | mavior | i ma using a voipcheap.com account configured as showed here http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=voipcheap |
21:55.52 | mavior | s/ma/am/ |
21:56.11 | mavior | and |
21:56.52 | file | Qwell! |
21:57.00 | *** part/#asterisk clive- (n=pirch@dsl-242-165-63.telkomadsl.co.za) |
21:57.21 | [TK]D-Fender | z0d1ac_19 : Easier than 1 line? No. |
21:57.56 | mavior | it's qorking for the dial-out...i am testing just calling my cell number phone, and it rings but....the problem is that when i hang up my usb phone...or click on the hang up button on xlite to stop the call, the cell phone continue to ring and to ring.... |
21:59.49 | lesouvage | mavior: add a hangup line under the dial line something like exten => s,2,Hangup() (adjust the s and the number) |
22:00.04 | mavior | and sometimes even if I stop ringing, just closing from my cell phone, after a while it(my cell phone) restarts automatically to ring :D as if asterisk ignores my request to stop the call and retrive automatically to call |
22:00.24 | mavior | s/qorking/working/ |
22:01.19 | mavior | i am using this line to place the calls |
22:01.20 | mavior | exten => _0039.,1,Dial(SIP/${EXTEN}@sip.voipcheap.com,60) |
22:01.59 | lesouvage | mavior: add exten => _0039.,2,Hangup() |
22:02.14 | mavior | exten => _0039.,2,Hangup() will work right? |
22:02.16 | mavior | oh ok |
22:02.22 | mavior | let me test |
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22:05.01 | lesouvage | mavior: add the line, save, type asterisk -r on the linux prompt and type reload on the asterisk cli |
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22:05.49 | mavior | oh ok...i have stopped and restarted the process after saving |
22:06.34 | monsted | mavior: just reload it |
22:06.35 | mavior | it 's still ringing after hang up :| |
22:06.44 | monsted | no need to stop and start |
22:06.49 | mavior | oh ok |
22:07.26 | wunderkin | lesouvage, mavior, you can just use extensions reload for that |
22:08.23 | linuxtuxie | Hi all, I seem to be having trouble to get a call placed with my asterisk setup and a voipstunt account. My sip debug output can be viewed at http://pastebin.be/3834/ |
22:08.29 | lesouvage | wunderkind: yes but you have to enter the asterisk cli to do that as far as I know. |
22:09.07 | wunderkin | yes, zomg, you know my whole nickname |
22:09.32 | linuxtuxie | I am making use of the current setup: asterisk (linux debian sarge) -> firewall (linux debian sarge) --- internet --- sip.voipstunt.com |
22:09.35 | mavior | the problem is still here unfortunaly |
22:09.47 | monsted | lesouvage: "asterisk -rx reload" |
22:10.57 | linuxtuxie | My firewall rules can be viewed at http://pastebin.be/3835/ |
22:11.20 | lesouvage | monsted: thanks |
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22:12.09 | mavior | i reload it but it's still ringing |
22:12.42 | lesouvage | mavior: can you put some cli output on pastebin |
22:13.11 | mavior | i have to make sip debug on? |
22:13.33 | lesouvage | lets start with set verbose 20 |
22:18.10 | mavior | ok here it is http://pastebin.com/828399 |
22:18.21 | Supaplex | set verbose 42984759879284.4 |
22:18.31 | mavior | i replace dmy own cell number in the text with "mycellnumber" string |
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22:23.16 | lesouvage | mavior: your cellphone start to ring when you let Asterisk dial the number? |
22:23.48 | mavior | yes it rings |
22:26.45 | lesouvage | And if you pick up the phone is there really a conection? |
22:27.44 | mavior | i don't know |
22:27.56 | mavior | i never tried...let me try... |
22:31.35 | mavior | yes the connection is real |
22:31.40 | mavior | i can talk |
22:32.44 | mavior | when I hang up the call from xlite |
22:33.22 | JT | lesouvage: the point wunderkin was trying to make that doing a reload is unnecessary just for an extensions.conf change |
22:33.26 | JT | you can do an extensions reload |
22:34.09 | mavior | and the phone continue to ring then I write on cli "sip show channels" it shows me an active channel to sip.voipcheap.com which i think continue to call |
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22:34.23 | jhiver | hi all |
22:34.36 | mavior | as if asterisk doesn't hang up the connection and stop properly the connection to the sip.voipcheap.com server |
22:34.43 | saftsack | is there any cheap possibility to convert a fxo line from a telco to a pri line (i want to test pri hardware but our pri lines are very expensive) |
22:34.50 | jhiver | i have done some tests with zaptel & X100P card tonight and i'm not impressed |
22:35.08 | JT | z0d1ac_19: setcallerid was meant to be gone in 1.4, not sure if it actually is |
22:35.16 | jhiver | it seems that zaptel Answers() a call before it should, i.e. it answers and then you hear the ring tone |
22:35.20 | JT | jhiver: it's an X100P, what do you expect? |
22:35.34 | jhiver | i don't know, something that would behave properly |
22:35.45 | jhiver | seems reasonable -) |
22:36.04 | JT | you'd be getting a TDM400P or similar then wouldn't you :P |
22:36.11 | JT | the X100P is no longer in production |
22:36.13 | jhiver | and then it doesn't hangup the call either, you have to go disconnect it |
22:36.16 | JT | and the chipset is deprecated |
22:36.34 | file | you want accurate call progress on analog? eeeeevil |
22:36.43 | jhiver | okay, so there is really no resonably priced 1 or 2 FXO card ) |
22:36.46 | jhiver | of course i do |
22:36.56 | saftsack | jhiver, maybe try an ata |
22:37.06 | JT | your idea of reasonable is not the same as others', maybe you mean cheap |
22:37.11 | jhiver | can you recommend one? |
22:37.14 | saftsack | with an ata you are independent from any drivers? |
22:37.34 | JT | yes, except the ata firmware :) |
22:37.34 | saftsack | jhiver, no sry i havent experiences with analog atas. just with bri atas |
22:37.40 | hads | You're pushing your luck to get call progress on analog with any device except a human. |
22:37.42 | JT | bri atas? |
22:37.46 | jhiver | Well TDM400 isn't cheap, you're probably better getting a small audiocodes for this price point |
22:38.08 | saftsack | JT, this is true, but analog -> sip is a more easy task as being a fully pbx software |
22:38.11 | jhiver | then you'd get echo cancellations and g729 + g723 |
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22:38.51 | mavior | lesouvage any comments? |
22:38.56 | JT | saftsack: can you rephrase? |
22:39.19 | jhiver | so in other words, my results are pretty normal, X100P is dreadful, and I should just forget about it... okay =) |
22:39.41 | JT | well |
22:39.44 | JT | when did you buy it? |
22:40.13 | jhiver | about a couple of month ago on X100P.com, the "genuine" digium card was already discontinued |
22:40.24 | JT | yes, so all the ones you buy now are rubbish |
22:40.27 | mavior | i don't know if it is connect to it, but I got regularly this from the cli outpout : handle_request_subscribe: Got SUBSCRIBE for extension 0033somenumberphone@internal from 192.168.1.105, but there is no hint for that extension |
22:40.34 | JT | you might get a good one |
22:40.40 | JT | but it's luck of the draw |
22:40.45 | jhiver | right |
22:40.47 | hads | They are all rubish. |
22:41.03 | JT | the current ones are fakes, often with factory second chipset ics |
22:41.14 | JT | the chipset ic is no longer in production |
22:41.23 | JT | hads: i meant even worse than the original :) |
22:41.31 | hads | :) |
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22:43.53 | JT | ah, so that ends my ambiguity as to EmleyMoor's gender :P |
22:44.18 | linuxtuxie | When I enable sip debug, I see the following messages http://pastebin.be/3834/ ...I do not see any failures, but I am unable to place a call...does somebody can shed some light ? |
22:44.30 | EmleyMoor | I've been choking in the dust behind my servers |
22:45.09 | saftsack | JT, what do you mean with rephrase? |
22:45.51 | JT | saftsack: restate, reword |
22:47.12 | saftsack | hmm ok. in my opinion there are atas with a good firmware because just be an ata is a simple task for the software in comparison what asterisk is. so if the ata works onetime it will work everytime |
22:47.38 | saftsack | so get a well developed ata and you propably wont have problems with this task anymore |
22:48.13 | JT | saftsack: that's true i guess |
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22:49.12 | EmleyMoor | Anywhere selling BT431A to RJ11 leads longer than 1.8m? How about RJ11 to nothing? |
22:49.17 | saftsack | yes and thats the cause why i think that atas are the better choice than cards. |
22:50.41 | saftsack | but i have the same question. what is the best fxo gateway? |
22:50.52 | JT | saftsack: "case" i think you mean |
22:50.56 | JT | EmleyMoor: just crimp your own |
22:50.59 | saftsack | no. i have just bri here |
22:51.21 | saftsack | this is isdn. we have analog telephones in germany in the most cases |
22:51.30 | JT | that was what i was asking before |
22:51.34 | JT | you have a bri gateway? |
22:51.37 | saftsack | yes |
22:52.54 | JT | what model? |
22:53.06 | saftsack | patton smartnode 4552 |
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22:55.33 | |Vulture| | Anyone have a recommendation for a good L2/L3 small switch that has good QoS no PoE needed |
22:56.25 | jhiver | saftsack, looks like we have the same issue... trouble finding decent FXO analogue gateways... |
22:56.40 | JT | sipuras are usually considered decent |
22:56.47 | JT | although they are home user grade |
22:56.54 | saftsack | jhiver, yes i think so |
22:56.56 | jhiver | (WITH accurate call progress and progress in band / early audio please) :-) |
22:57.04 | saftsack | i use just a one port model for testing |
22:57.13 | saftsack | one port fxs AND one port fxo |
22:57.21 | jhiver | on the sipura i had it wasn't that great |
22:57.23 | JT | it's hard to get accurate call progress on analogue though |
22:57.25 | monsted | |Vulture|: ciscos are always nice |
22:57.25 | saftsack | btw is there a pcm bus available? |
22:57.49 | mavior | anybody got some problems with voipcheap and asterisk, like if asterisk doesn't hang up the connection if you hang up when the phone is ringing? |
22:57.57 | |Vulture| | monsted: I need something low price, and easy to configure, I have used L2 Netgears in the past but their QoS is lacking I was looking at D-Link and Linksys |
22:58.03 | jhiver | JT: it's hard, but it should be sort of possible |
22:58.25 | monsted | |Vulture|: do they even make L3 switches? |
22:58.28 | saftsack | telephone -> FXS-GW -SIP-> Asterisk -SIP> FXO GW -> Line (signalling way) telephone -> FXS-GW -analog-> FXO-GW -> Line (speech way) |
22:58.31 | jhiver | at least something more accurate than 1) answer 2) ring would be good :-) |
22:58.32 | saftsack | is this setup possible? :) |
22:58.43 | |Vulture| | monsted: Netgear? Yea they all make L3 now and L4 whatever that is |
22:59.19 | monsted | L4 is usually application load balancing |
22:59.44 | JT | |Vulture|: managed or not? |
22:59.50 | |Vulture| | oh like internal QoS for apps? |
23:00.01 | |Vulture| | JT: yes SNMP & QoS are a must |
23:00.08 | monsted | JT: since he mentions QoS and L3, i'd say managed ;) |
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23:00.34 | JT | he also said small |
23:00.35 | JT | confusing |
23:00.59 | |Vulture| | well I need a switch to connect to the T1 Router and bridge to all the servers connected externally |
23:01.00 | monsted | |Vulture|: like distributing incoming connections across several end hosts, such as a web server cluster |
23:01.07 | |Vulture| | we only have 6 servers on the outside |
23:01.26 | JT | right, so only 8 or 16 ports |
23:01.31 | monsted | |Vulture|: cisco makes 8 and 12 port switches :) |
23:01.32 | JT | i was thinking physical size |
23:01.41 | |Vulture| | currently we do it via a VLAN but Id prefer a switch just for QoS and INET |
23:01.44 | JT | HP make good switches |
23:01.46 | |Vulture| | ohh |
23:01.49 | |Vulture| | I didn't look at HP |
23:02.00 | JT | which don't have the support contract cruft of ciscos |
23:02.02 | monsted | HP switches are quite good, yeah |
23:02.04 | |Vulture| | nor did I really look at cisco cause I knew that meant I would have to learn all the command stuff |
23:02.16 | JT | and lifetime warranty (unless that's changed recently) |
23:02.18 | monsted | bit cheaper than cisco and does all but the enterprisey stuff very nicely |
23:02.26 | |Vulture| | Im going to look there now |
23:02.30 | JT | |Vulture|: you'd have to learn the commands for whatever you use |
23:02.38 | JT | cisco is easy, just type ? for help |
23:02.51 | JT | but the command structure is a bit illogical |
23:02.55 | |Vulture| | JT: I am use to using the command and web interface for Netgear lol |
23:02.59 | JT | but it makes sense if you're used to asterisk cli :P |
23:03.00 | slayer192 | i second the HP vote, I've got ~40 of them and no real complaints |
23:03.04 | monsted | especially switches - just plug 'em in and they work :) |
23:03.08 | JT | no shutdown |
23:03.09 | JT | ! |
23:03.26 | monsted | JT: only on routers ;) |
23:03.36 | JT | heh |
23:03.53 | JT | i've seen no shutdown on cisco switches too |
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23:03.54 | |Vulture| | slayer192: you ever configure the QoS on them? |
23:04.00 | monsted | a cisco switch is set up much like any unmanaged switch when you pull it from the box |
23:04.23 | shmaltz | how do I make sure that my Polycom phones display the name and number for callerid when I'm on the phone? |
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23:04.26 | monsted | (all ports no-shut, vlan 1, autonegotiate etc) |
23:04.31 | saftsack | what about the grandstreams ata voice quality? |
23:04.50 | |Vulture| | shmaltz: they should if CID is enabled and being passed |
23:04.51 | slayer192 | I've looked at it, I do all my qos in my foundry |
23:05.18 | shmaltz | |Vulture|, obviously if I'm asking they only display one, and that is the name and not the number |
23:05.55 | monsted | |Vulture|: you could look at the cisco catalyst express switches, which are cheaper and more in the realm of the HP ones |
23:05.55 | jhiver | saftsack, for your own sake, forget about grandstream ATAs |
23:06.01 | JT | if anyone in australia wants a DMS-100, i know of one that might be going for free :P |
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23:06.10 | jhiver | they are the worst piece of sh*t ever |
23:06.17 | saftsack | yes thought so too but are there other atas which are recommend? |
23:06.23 | |Vulture| | monsted: do they have the new web interface on them? |
23:06.42 | monsted | they have web interfaces? |
23:06.48 | monsted | ah |
23:06.49 | monsted | right |
23:07.00 | jhiver | I don't know, all the ones I have tested for FXO were either utter garbage or were really expensive |
23:07.03 | monsted | that's the "no http server" bit you always do when you get one |
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23:07.14 | |Vulture| | hahaha |
23:07.17 | |Vulture| | :P |
23:07.52 | linuxtuxie | Does anybody know what the response should be after the SIP register command ? |
23:07.56 | jhiver | ideally I'd like to have a decent sub $200 integrated ADSL modem / router with 1 FXO port I can call remotely |
23:08.04 | jhiver | 200 ok ? |
23:08.27 | JT | i'm sure you can get them |
23:08.32 | JT | i don't know if they're decent |
23:08.49 | linuxtuxie | jhiver: hmm, I can't make that up from http://pastebin.be/3834/ |
23:08.53 | jhiver | well i have tested one recently, can't remember the brand |
23:09.13 | JT | netgear? |
23:09.14 | monsted | |Vulture|: just grab a cisco catalyst 6500 - that should be enough switching power for you for a while ;) |
23:09.17 | jhiver | worked fine, except same old 1) answer then 2) rings problem |
23:10.22 | saftsack | jhiver, can you recommend me a good ata? |
23:10.37 | |Vulture| | monsted: :O hahaha I am looking at the Cisco and HPs now |
23:10.48 | jhiver | you mean, an expensive FXO gateway? |
23:10.50 | shmaltz | how do I make sure that my Polycom phones display the name and number for callerid when I'm on the phone? |
23:11.21 | saftsack | jhiver, good == expensive, or what do you mean? |
23:11.26 | jhiver | there's this boscom 4 FXO on my shelf which I paid for eur $1,000, works great |
23:11.30 | saftsack | <- just searches for a one port gateway |
23:11.42 | saftsack | jhiver, why did you spend so much money? |
23:11.42 | jhiver | yes so do i |
23:11.53 | jhiver | i didn't know what i was doing at the time |
23:11.59 | jhiver | it was two years ago |
23:12.28 | jhiver | I was such a VoIP n00b =) |
23:12.28 | saftsack | oh, ok. but imho there are good atas < 100eu |
23:12.37 | jhiver | well it depends what you think "good" is |
23:12.41 | saftsack | but there i have the fear that the voice quality is bad |
23:12.43 | JT | it sounds smart |
23:12.46 | JT | "works greaT" |
23:13.04 | hmmhesays | well I think i decided on the power conditioner that I'm going to get |
23:13.25 | JT | why buy a power conditioner? |
23:13.28 | saftsack | in my opinion good is: good voice quality, many configuration options and support for all important gw features like dtmf, 3 way calling, callerid and so on |
23:14.21 | saftsack | and i think that the most cheap devices just lack on the second thing: many configuration options. but for this there are many hacking options |
23:15.42 | saftsack | for example this one: Linksys PAP2T |
23:16.20 | jhiver | yes |
23:16.24 | jhiver | same as sipura |
23:16.45 | jhiver | or is it the PAP2? |
23:16.57 | ariel_ | ~weather ktmb |
23:17.13 | saftsack | now but i think they are in the same class. |
23:17.14 | jhiver | cool |
23:17.25 | jhiver | ~weather run |
23:17.30 | ariel_ | argh it's getting cold outside |
23:17.31 | jhiver | lol |
23:17.35 | saftsack | jhiver, do you think that this are good devices? |
23:17.43 | jhiver | the linksys? |
23:17.44 | jhiver | yes |
23:17.57 | jhiver | they should be sort of decent* |
23:19.26 | saftsack | ok. then i will buy one of those for testing |
23:19.38 | saftsack | sipura and linksys are the same |
23:19.52 | saftsack | thats not true but they build the ata together |
23:20.12 | ariel_ | make sure you get the -na |
23:21.32 | EmleyMoor | I get "Security check failed" when I try to use ekiga with asterisk - NAT or no NAT, no difference |
23:21.40 | mavior | port 5060 should be forwarded to the properly machine, if the asterisk server machine is behind an home lan nat? |
23:22.18 | mavior | or is it needed any port redirection on some ports? |
23:22.22 | saftsack | i go to bed now. gn8 |
23:22.59 | [TK]D-Fender | mavior : 5060, 10000-20000, and a pile of settings in sip.conf |
23:23.09 | jhiver | cya |
23:23.19 | EmleyMoor | What precisely do I need to enter in account information to get ekiga to work with asterisk? How about in sip.conf? |
23:24.23 | hmmhesays | you need to enter whatever your user details are |
23:24.35 | hmmhesays | in sip.conf, then in ekiga you use the credentials you set up in sip.conf |
23:25.07 | EmleyMoor | hmmhesays: Yes - and it gives "Security check failed" if I try to make a call |
23:25.58 | hmmhesays | need to look at a sip debug in asterisk |
23:26.06 | hmmhesays | check if it registers properly also |
23:26.09 | hmmhesays | with a sip show peers |
23:26.13 | EmleyMoor | It doesn't |
23:26.40 | hmmhesays | thats a problem then |
23:26.45 | hmmhesays | fix your registration |
23:26.51 | hmmhesays | is Emley your actual name? |
23:26.55 | EmleyMoor | No |
23:27.08 | mavior | atm i am placing calls even if i didn't redirect any ports... i am connecting to my asterisk server (me and the server are in the local subnet) and it places my calls over the net |
23:27.16 | hmmhesays | it almost sounds like it could be an english first name |
23:27.27 | hmmhesays | what version of asterisk? |
23:27.33 | EmleyMoor | 1.2.something |
23:27.39 | hmmhesays | well |
23:27.45 | hmmhesays | set verbose 5 on the console |
23:27.55 | hmmhesays | and restart ekiga |
23:28.06 | hmmhesays | it should show you a registration error if it fails |
23:28.38 | EmleyMoor | It shows nothing |
23:28.52 | hmmhesays | sip debug |
23:29.05 | hmmhesays | and see if you have a registration request coming in |
23:29.43 | EmleyMoor | No, I do not have a registration request coming in |
23:30.09 | hmmhesays | then you need to look at our ekiga settings |
23:30.21 | hmmhesays | and see why it is not trying to register to your asterisk |
23:30.25 | EmleyMoor | I can't see anything wrong with them |
23:30.52 | EmleyMoor | Ah, found something "obvious but small" |
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23:32.02 | hmmhesays | god i wish someone would come out with some solid proof of extraterrestrial live |
23:32.04 | hmmhesays | *life |
23:32.13 | EmleyMoor | SIP seems to have much better quality than IAX2, or is that just me |
23:32.15 | EmleyMoor | ? |
23:32.22 | [TK]D-Fender | EmleyMoor : How about putting your account info screen fields from Ekiga into a pastbin |
23:32.24 | hmmhesays | EmleyMoor: highly likely just you |
23:32.26 | JT | just you |
23:32.36 | hmmhesays | you probably have different codecs used for sip and iax2 |
23:32.45 | JT | they use the same codecs (are you using the same codecs??) |
23:33.40 | EmleyMoor | Yes |
23:33.52 | EmleyMoor | Hmmm... can't tell as much difference now |
23:34.12 | hmmhesays | why is it that all these UFO researchers always look so goofy you can't help but discredit what they say |
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23:40.13 | EmleyMoor | Why does ekiga cut the beginning of the audio off the call? |
23:41.06 | [TK]D-Fender | EmleyMoor : I'd bet its related to EC |
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23:42.59 | EmleyMoor | No - not EC |
23:43.02 | EmleyMoor | Same on or off |
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23:46.00 | EmleyMoor | Could having nat=yes unnecessarily in sip.conf cause this? |
23:51.50 | EmleyMoor | Is there a good 1-800 number I could call as a test? |
23:54.04 | wunderkin | 800-555-tell |
23:58.26 | EmleyMoor | Why would this not work: |
23:58.40 | EmleyMoor | exten => _001800.,1,Dial(SIP/*${EXTEN:2}@fwd-outgoing) |
23:59.40 | wunderkin | depends on the problem, i would not count on fwd working all the time |