| 00:00.04 | rene- | i have found an AstAutoDialer for windows, |
| 00:00.06 | rene- | looks cool |
| 00:00.29 | rene- | it is free, i am not sure if it does predictive but looks cool |
| 00:03.11 | tainted- | i think heath144 has one that is GPLd |
| 00:03.17 | tainted- | let me see |
| 00:03.42 | tainted- | ah yes |
| 00:03.48 | tainted- | http://www.gnudialer.org |
| 00:04.14 | rene- | i have tried installing it but have had no success |
| 00:04.27 | tainted- | try posting to their forum |
| 00:04.32 | tainted- | he's pretty responsive |
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| 00:10.16 | rene- | i had tried to install it several times without no success on both redhat and debian, i asked for help in the forum but we couldnt communicate properly, i am looking at vicidial, the other free dialer app for windows and the sineapps demo, i can barely read c++ but i will try to learn from what gnudialer does and i can read a bit of perl and will try to see if i learn a little bit from what vicidialer does, that local channel tec |
| 00:19.10 | Rawplayer | anyone of you guys got 7905G SIP firmware |
| 00:19.15 | Rawplayer | and care to share |
| 00:19.32 | Rawplayer | and yes i'am aware of the rest |
| 00:22.10 | ManxPower | Rawplayer, no, but I have a pirated copy of AutoCAD if you want it. |
| 00:22.35 | Hmmhesays | i have a goal to be able to play bat country by avenged sevenfold by the end of the month |
| 00:22.41 | Rawplayer | ManxPower: ;) |
| 00:24.31 | mishehu | you could trade that copy of Autocad for the SIP firmware |
| 00:25.07 | demigod2k | speaking of autocad you ever use Inventor? |
| 00:25.11 | demigod2k | if you have to do 3D that program rocks |
| 00:36.59 | mishehu | I can't do 1D drawings |
| 00:38.47 | demigod2k | get a ruler :0 |
| 00:38.49 | demigod2k | :) |
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| 00:46.25 | ManxPower | Rawplayer, one of the reasons we decided NOT to standardize on Cisco was the firmware costs. |
| 00:48.55 | demigod2k | charging for firmware updates sucks, but I can understand it for different functionality |
| 00:49.08 | ManxPower | We went with Polycoms |
| 00:49.36 | demigod2k | ya I'm evaluating one of those right now, they're pretty nice |
| 00:49.43 | demigod2k | can't say I disagree with your choice |
| 00:50.11 | The_Isle_of_Mark | anyone have any experience with Draytek voip devices? |
| 00:50.22 | demigod2k | not me |
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| 00:52.58 | The_Isle_of_Mark | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:53.27 | The_Isle_of_Mark | I have spoken |
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| 00:55.16 | demigod2k | never tried one but I'll avoid it :) |
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| 00:56.14 | unmanaged | hmm |
| 00:57.03 | dlynes | don't be a perl hatah |
| 00:57.37 | unmanaged | can't seem to get perl and apache2 do do right |
| 00:57.59 | demigod2k | that happens. I dont allow anybody to use perl on my projects |
| 00:58.05 | demigod2k | never had good luck with employees that use it |
| 00:58.19 | perlhatah | well this is just for shits a giggles |
| 00:58.28 | perlhatah | I am at home |
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| 01:00.15 | ManxPower | Employees? Use Perl? |
| 01:00.42 | ManxPower | "I don't use text messages on my cell phone because it's too complicated." <-- actual quote from one of my users |
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| 01:00.55 | unmanaged | there |
| 01:00.57 | unmanaged | eep! |
| 01:01.10 | demigod2k | hah |
| 01:01.44 | demigod2k | ManxPower, ya I've never had good luck with maintenance |
| 01:02.50 | demigod2k | I've found it a lot more difficult to manage projects with loosely typed languages |
| 01:02.51 | ManxPower | This woman sold like $30 million in real estate last year. |
| 01:09.34 | dlynes | demigod2k: yeah...perl is cool, but it should be limited to the jobs its good at, and left out of everything else |
| 01:10.02 | dlynes | perl should never be used as a general purpose language simply for the reason that it's not a strongly typed language |
| 01:10.13 | demigod2k | I've had 3 bum employees in a row, I'll probably never try it again |
| 01:10.41 | unmanaged | well it is good for this |
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| 01:10.51 | dlynes | the problem with most perl programmers is that they're zealots |
| 01:11.02 | unmanaged | it is getting mod_perl an apache |
| 01:11.07 | unmanaged | to do |
| 01:11.20 | demigod2k | ya thats what I found. I require C code to pass Lint and theres not really an equivalent for perl. close but no cigar |
| 01:11.33 | dlynes | i.e. perl can do no wrong, and it is always the best tool for the job |
| 01:11.45 | ManxPower | My Perl looks like a cross between C and Perl |
| 01:11.50 | demigod2k | thats what I found. also operating on stdin just kills me |
| 01:12.18 | dlynes | demigod2k: yeah...if i need to do text slicing and dicing, i will use perl quite a bit |
| 01:12.41 | dlynes | demigod2k: but for general purpose programming, i usually use C, C++ or Java, depending on which type of programming the job calls for |
| 01:12.59 | techman97_andy | hey all - quick question (well, probably not...but hey) I have an * server behind a PIX firewall doing NAT - my end game here is to have SIP clients from the Internet connect to it and use it. If I VPN into the network where the * box is - XLite (my test softphone) connects perfectly and I'm good to go. I've mapped udp5060 through the firewall, as well as 8000 for rtp - I change the IP address only in XLite, and attempt to r |
| 01:13.33 | techman97_andy | I've read the WIKI on this and am pretty sure that I read it correctly and forwarded the needed ports... |
| 01:13.34 | ManxPower | techman97_andy, and set localnet= and externip= in sip.conf? |
| 01:13.37 | techman97_andy | help? |
| 01:13.51 | techman97_andy | ManxPower: Yes, in the [general] section. |
| 01:14.22 | ManxPower | techman97_andy, why do you think 8000 is the port audio is on? |
| 01:14.47 | techman97_andy | ManxPower: port 8000 was in one of the firewall config scripts I read on the WIKI |
| 01:16.34 | ManxPower | techman97_andy, see /etc/asterisk/rtp.conf |
| 01:16.42 | techman97_andy | here's another factor that may be in effect: I'm (remote XLite client) behind a Vonage Linksys device - do you think that somehow that password is being sent to the server in a response instead of my SIP request? |
| 01:17.01 | techman97_andy | Manx: I'll check that quick |
| 01:17.41 | techman97_andy | hmmm - those ports in there are listing 10000-20000 |
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| 01:18.26 | techman97_andy | still though - my XLite client should register with * even if the audio will be fubar'd down the line, one would think? |
| 01:18.46 | ManxPower | techman97_andy, correct. |
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| 01:19.23 | ManxPower | make sure there are NO ports forwarded on the linksys and you have not enabled any NAT options on the x-lite and have nat=yes in the section for that device in sip.conf |
| 01:19.26 | techman97_andy | I'm close to running to Best Buy or something to pick up a regular broadband router and see if it's the Vonage part of this one that's screwing me up |
| 01:19.44 | YoMama | Manx: hey man..ltns |
| 01:19.52 | ManxPower | techman97_andy, also turn off sip fixup on the PIX, it messes up Asterisk's NAT ficups |
| 01:19.53 | techman97_andy | k - lemme check the NAT options on the XLite - nat=yes is on for my sip section |
| 01:20.00 | techman97_andy | k |
| 01:20.00 | unmanaged | 10000 to 20000 UDP |
| 01:20.03 | ManxPower | HEloo, YoMama |
| 01:21.02 | YoMama | i never got X-Lite working perfectly |
| 01:21.23 | ManxPower | All softphones suck. |
| 01:21.46 | YoMama | Manx: how much u know about the software echo cancellation...i compiled the latest * with MG2 insetad of whatever's default and it's even worse |
| 01:22.02 | YoMama | someone told me that it's a more aggressive echo canceller but it sounds like ass |
| 01:22.13 | techman97_andy | my end game is not to use the softphones - I just need to prove this works so my company will invest in the right IP phones |
| 01:22.15 | techman97_andy | =) |
| 01:22.18 | ManxPower | YoMama, reduce your txgain |
| 01:22.19 | dlynes | YoMama: You using zaptel trunk, or the latest release version? |
| 01:22.29 | ManxPower | if it's a T-1 or PRI, install a hardware echocan |
| 01:22.30 | YoMama | dlynes: latest release |
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| 01:22.40 | ManxPower | YoMama, use the zaptel-trunk |
| 01:22.48 | YoMama | Manx: if i reduce it too far...i can barely hear the voicemail |
| 01:23.04 | YoMama | damned if i do and damned if i don't |
| 01:23.05 | dlynes | YoMama: I'm using mg2 on a pri using zaptel trunk and it sounds just fine |
| 01:23.09 | ManxPower | YoMama, *nod* That;s the problem. |
| 01:23.23 | YoMama | Manx: then wtf do i do |
| 01:23.37 | ManxPower | YoMama, use zaptel trunk and try it again |
| 01:23.43 | YoMama | with MG2? |
| 01:23.52 | ManxPower | It removes much of my echo issues on an 11 mile loop |
| 01:23.59 | YoMama | 11 mile? holy smokes.. |
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| 01:24.23 | ManxPower | yes, MG2 |
| 01:24.36 | YoMama | k..i'll give that a shot |
| 01:24.51 | YoMama | thx...i'm guessing they've been doing a lot of work in the trunk on the echo cancelling |
| 01:24.55 | ManxPower | YoMama, and you know how much I HATE running a developement version |
| 01:25.16 | dlynes | ManxPower: yeah, same here, but the trunk is more stable than the release |
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| 01:25.23 | dlynes | ManxPower: like that makes any sense, whatsoever |
| 01:25.30 | YoMama | Manx: yeah...that's the scary thing that you're telling me to...lucky me i'm just using it for home..but still |
| 01:25.48 | dlynes | YoMama: In my case, i had to use libpri-trunk, and zaptel-trunk |
| 01:25.56 | YoMama | wow |
| 01:26.01 | ManxPower | YoMama, there were not any large changes to zaptel when I got zaptel-drunk |
| 01:26.13 | dlynes | zaptel-drunk |
| 01:26.19 | YoMama | haha..zaptel-drunk...sweet |
| 01:26.44 | ManxPower | Hmmhesays, perhaps that's a sign I need a beer. |
| 01:26.51 | froguz | does the E1 trunks have echo problems too? |
| 01:26.54 | YoMama | mmmm...beer |
| 01:26.55 | dlynes | I was getting my pri hanging every day or two on libpri 1.2.2 and zaptel 1.2.x |
| 01:27.05 | YoMama | Manx: aren't u in Canada? |
| 01:27.12 | dlynes | After switching to libpri-trunk and zaptel-trunk, i have no problems |
| 01:27.15 | froguz | i though it just happend with analog interfaces |
| 01:27.41 | YoMama | Manx: you use DirecPC? how's the latency on that? |
| 01:28.25 | YoMama | froguz: nope..echo is a pervasive issue |
| 01:28.26 | ManxPower | YoMama, DirecPC is the worst ISP I have ever seen in my entire technical career. |
| 01:28.48 | Abydos313 | i second that |
| 01:28.49 | ManxPower | froguz, the far end is frequently an analog interface. |
| 01:28.50 | YoMama | Manx: no..tell me what you REALLY think..haha |
| 01:29.07 | Abydos313 | i used them when it was one way and then paid another 500 bucks for two way system. all complete junk |
| 01:29.07 | ManxPower | If you have a T-1, PRI, or VoIP then the echo can't happen on your LOCAL analog loop, of course. |
| 01:29.29 | ManxPower | I'm riding on a t-way system |
| 01:29.50 | ManxPower | I hope to have a Frac T-1 before the end of the summer. |
| 01:30.02 | Abydos313 | good luck |
| 01:30.47 | ManxPower | Abydos313, they are only about $500/month |
| 01:31.16 | ManxPower | I should be able to get my cost down to at least $250/month by providing internet service to the perm people at the campground |
| 01:31.16 | YoMama | Abydos: are you in Detroit? |
| 01:31.23 | Abydos313 | no.california |
| 01:31.38 | YoMama | Abydos: ah...just u got 313 in your nick...that's the area code in the D |
| 01:31.47 | demigod2k | I'm in the D |
| 01:31.49 | demigod2k | :) |
| 01:31.51 | Abydos313 | :) |
| 01:32.01 | YoMama | demigod2k: yeah? so am i...sorta |
| 01:32.10 | demigod2k | I'll never give up my 313 cell number |
| 01:32.19 | demigod2k | hah well not anymore. I moved out to the suburbs |
| 01:32.35 | MoutaPT | Any one here get in troubles when hanging up with Sjphone? |
| 01:32.48 | Abydos313 | abydos==planet on stargate sg1 and 313 is a lucky number i like |
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| 01:32.50 | YoMama | demigod2k: i've never lived in the D..and the only time i had 313 cell phone was when ann arbor and detroit had the same area code |
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| 01:33.37 | demigod2k | that was quite a while ago. 1995 or so they changed that |
| 01:33.49 | YoMama | yup |
| 01:33.51 | YoMama | well, i'm old |
| 01:34.07 | YoMama | demigod: what burb did u move to? so u actually lived in the D? |
| 01:34.14 | YoMama | you're a brave soul |
| 01:34.34 | demigod2k | i'm in livonia now |
| 01:34.45 | YoMama | ah |
| 01:34.45 | demigod2k | work in whitmore lake |
| 01:34.54 | YoMama | you're nowhere near the D anymore |
| 01:35.09 | YoMama | that whole Walmart thing was a shame |
| 01:35.44 | demigod2k | livonia is messed up. I like it in theory, but the city council is fucked |
| 01:35.48 | demigod2k | walmart is the least of their problems |
| 01:36.04 | demigod2k | the city council is messing with the public schools right now and isn't bringing in enough tax money |
| 01:37.27 | YoMama | lovely |
| 01:37.53 | YoMama | i ain't living in any town where they tremble at the thought of building a Walmart because black people will go shopping there and get jobs there |
| 01:38.46 | demigod2k | ya they cast it as a racial issue because of a couple of idiots |
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| 01:39.00 | YoMama | yeah..that's too bad |
| 01:39.04 | demigod2k | frankly I dont want a walmart either, but I dont want big-box retailers in my city |
| 01:39.17 | YoMama | yeah..there are better reasons to not have a walmart |
| 01:39.25 | Qwell | pfft, walmart rocks |
| 01:39.44 | tainted- | they're building one in rosemead :D |
| 01:39.44 | YoMama | no it doesn't |
| 01:39.49 | tainted- | three blocks from my house |
| 01:39.58 | Qwell | tainted-: yeah, where at? |
| 01:40.09 | tainted- | rush and walnut grove :D |
| 01:40.14 | Qwell | no clue where that is, heh |
| 01:40.19 | tainted- | near the whittier narrows golf course |
| 01:40.27 | Qwell | ... |
| 01:40.37 | tainted- | do house values go up when walmart moves in nearby? |
| 01:40.46 | tainted- | it's a superstore too.. so i think that means groceries |
| 01:40.50 | dlynes | oh yeah, most definitely |
| 01:40.53 | dlynes | not |
| 01:41.01 | demigod2k | tainted-, typically down. one theory is they exploit community resources |
| 01:41.13 | demigod2k | same thing like a trailer park |
| 01:41.13 | dlynes | housing prices drop steeply when walmart moves in here |
| 01:41.20 | tainted- | really? |
| 01:41.25 | Qwell | oh no, small businesses die, because they can't match prices! oh noez! |
| 01:41.26 | Qwell | pfft |
| 01:41.31 | dlynes | they attract all the low income wage earners |
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| 01:41.45 | demigod2k | the low income wage earners consume more public resources, etc |
| 01:41.46 | demigod2k | its just bad |
| 01:41.53 | demigod2k | they dont add to the city tax base |
| 01:41.53 | tainted- | i'm a fan of walmart -- they're not really the evil empire everyone likes to think they are |
| 01:41.54 | ManxPower | Qwell, Yeah. Without walmart small businesses would be paying so much for stuff they could not survive. |
| 01:42.26 | Qwell | if it hurts walmart so much, why don't they just go and buy their shit from walmart? :p |
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| 01:42.35 | Qwell | erm, if they're hurt by walmart so much |
| 01:42.52 | ManxPower | tainted-, Walmart pretty much does what they want, when they want, how they want, and if you want them to buy from you as a supplier you'll do things thee way they tell you. |
| 01:42.58 | YoMama | tainted: so u dont' pay any attention to the fact that they're being sued by many people for labor law violations..like being forced to clock out before their shift is over |
| 01:43.18 | Qwell | YoMama: I don't care about any of that shit. |
| 01:43.25 | Qwell | I get stuff easier and cheaper than I could before... |
| 01:43.29 | Qwell | doesn't affect me any |
| 01:43.36 | demigod2k | http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/102/open_snapper.html that was a great article on the supply chain |
| 01:43.41 | ManxPower | YoMama, Like walmart is the only company that does that. 1) if you don't like it go work somewhere else 2) if you don't like it, sue them |
| 01:43.47 | tainted- | demigod2k it's true, they screw greedy vendors |
| 01:43.50 | demigod2k | it's cool, I like paying less for stuff. what I dont like is how it affects the taxation of the city |
| 01:43.59 | tainted- | and they screw inefficently run small businesses |
| 01:44.24 | tainted- | but i still believe they are good overall |
| 01:44.45 | tainted- | in terms of putting products within reach of the poor |
| 01:44.45 | ManxPower | I feel that large retailers like Walmart, Target, K-Mart, etc are here to stay, they drive down prices and make things more effecient. |
| 01:44.49 | Qwell | walmart is evil, we all know it |
| 01:44.52 | Qwell | but...fuck it |
| 01:45.15 | tsume | go with what saves money |
| 01:45.19 | tsume | which is walmart |
| 01:45.27 | tsume | tell the small business owners to get a real job |
| 01:46.00 | tsume | if they can't keep up with advertising, making sure their customers are happy, and hypnotic ads, then that is *THEIR* fault |
| 01:46.05 | tainted- | or just tell them to do something else |
| 01:46.09 | tsume | exactly |
| 01:46.12 | demigod2k | well its not just that. as soon as you get walmart, you have to start funding bus routes. and you have to support 24-hour operation. and you have to add traffic lights, etc etc |
| 01:46.16 | tsume | this is the *REAL* world |
| 01:46.19 | ManxPower | tsume, Um, they can't compete with Walmart in the areas Walmart sells to. |
| 01:46.29 | tsume | ManxPower: tough shit for them |
| 01:46.32 | tainted- | u don't HAVE to run a record store |
| 01:46.39 | tainted- | u don't HAVE to run a hardware store |
| 01:46.48 | ManxPower | tsume, Well, they can change their business to not compete with Walmart. |
| 01:47.06 | ManxPower | There is SO much Walmart does NOT sell. |
| 01:47.08 | tsume | ManxPower: they could, but people would rather piss and whine. |
| 01:47.33 | ManxPower | Try getting smoked cheese at walmart (other than the one smoked gouda( |
| 01:47.36 | YoMama | damn...like 30 people just showed up at this cafe |
| 01:47.42 | YoMama | who knew it was such a social place |
| 01:47.51 | tainted- | who knew it was so liberal |
| 01:47.57 | YoMama | Manx: screw Walmart..i get all my stuff from Costco |
| 01:48.05 | tsume | :D |
| 01:48.09 | YoMama | Sam Walton can take it where the sun don't shine |
| 01:48.15 | tsume | there is a costco in Anchorage :) |
| 01:48.23 | ManxPower | There ARE companies that compete with Walmart. |
| 01:48.30 | ManxPower | Costco, Target, etc. |
| 01:48.34 | tainted- | yep |
| 01:48.38 | tainted- | different demographics |
| 01:48.43 | tsume | kmart :P |
| 01:48.47 | ManxPower | And really, they treat their employees better too. |
| 01:48.52 | tsume | how many times are they going to go backrupt though :) |
| 01:48.56 | tsume | *bankrupt |
| 01:49.01 | tainted- | target's average shopper has higher incomine, while costco has the highest |
| 01:49.15 | tainted- | s/incomine/income |
| 01:49.15 | YoMama | I love Costco |
| 01:49.20 | YoMama | i just went there today in fact |
| 01:49.29 | ManxPower | And really, if someone doesn't like the way walmart treats them and pays them minimum wage, then they can go dig ditches, be treated like shit and get paid minimum wage. |
| 01:49.30 | tainted- | costco food court is really good |
| 01:49.41 | justinu|laptop | good cheap pizza |
| 01:49.48 | ManxPower | Seems to me Walmart is better than digging ditches. |
| 01:49.51 | tainted- | i walked into walmart and was greet by a retard |
| 01:49.53 | tsume | not store fast food |
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| 01:50.05 | tainted- | i thought to myself, what large retailer would hire retards |
| 01:50.17 | tsume | tainted-: in TN, they hire old ladies |
| 01:50.20 | tainted- | even at minimum wage |
| 01:50.24 | tsume | tainted-: well, because they are simple |
| 01:50.26 | tainted- | that's quite a feat |
| 01:50.57 | tsume | tainted-: you can train anyone, but well.. older peope or people who are challenged mentally are easier to train |
| 01:51.04 | YoMama | i love buying 36 rolls of toilet paper at the same time |
| 01:51.13 | tsume | you just tell them to smile and greet, nothing else will be going through their mind |
| 01:51.25 | YoMama | the scary thing is..i can use it up pretty quickly..then again, i live with a girl..and i think girls secretly eat toilet paper which is why they can eat so little at dinner |
| 01:51.27 | justinu|laptop | it's the only way to buy it when your women uses 1-2 rolls a day |
| 01:51.29 | tsume | YoMama: yes :) place it in storage, it lasts months :) |
| 01:51.29 | YoMama | just a theory... |
| 01:51.33 | tainted- | it's a beautiful thing |
| 01:51.43 | justinu|laptop | YoMama: interesitng theory |
| 01:51.46 | tsume | YoMama: haha, must be what you eat from pussy ;) |
| 01:52.03 | tainted- | lol on the toilet paper <-> women theories |
| 01:52.08 | YoMama | tsume: that almost made sense |
| 01:52.30 | justinu|laptop | YoMama: don't get him started |
| 01:52.42 | tsume | YoMama: yeah, dont :P |
| 01:54.53 | YoMama | k..i won't |
| 02:04.16 | *** part/#asterisk YoMama (n=achen@adsl-69-209-157-67.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net) |
| 02:06.58 | tsume | crazy ameritechians |
| 02:08.13 | Strom_C | fortunately, the united states of ameritech don't really exist anymore :) |
| 02:09.27 | tsume | hmm? what happened to it? |
| 02:10.10 | Strom_C | it now flies the banner of the Amalgamated Telephone & TCP/IP Company |
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| 02:11.39 | Qwell | Strom_C: AT&T owns them? |
| 02:12.05 | Qwell | Sorry, "AT&T" |
| 02:12.17 | Strom_C | SBC bought Ameritech in 1999 |
| 02:12.19 | Qwell | kinda like "SCO" |
| 02:13.38 | Strom_C | so yes, it's now part of AT&T |
| 02:15.04 | Abydos313 | ewww.. SCO sucks! |
| 02:15.07 | tsume | oh, heh |
| 02:15.53 | Qwell | Abydos313: No, "SCO" sucks. SCO was actually a good company. |
| 02:16.23 | Qwell | both AT&T and "AT&T" suck |
| 02:16.34 | Abydos313 | when they went after linux users. they became dead to me |
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| 02:16.44 | Qwell | Abydos313: That's "SCO" |
| 02:17.04 | Strom_C | yes, after Caldera bought them |
| 02:17.38 | key2 | !seen kram |
| 02:17.52 | Qwell | key2: Why not email him or something? |
| 02:18.10 | key2 | Qwell: it's fine |
| 02:18.17 | key2 | it's already done :) |
| 02:18.25 | Strom_C | it's not like his email address is secret :) |
| 02:18.39 | key2 | i wrote him and he answered |
| 02:18.42 | Qwell | well, it can be weeks before he shows up in here |
| 02:18.47 | key2 | just wanted to see if between he's been on irc |
| 02:22.37 | tainted- | anyone use gundy's mono-tone AGI class? |
| 02:22.54 | Denmark | Abydos313 . MS paid them good $$$ to do it.. |
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| 02:33.11 | kimosabe | is there a way to make the sip devices ring faster when making a call |
| 02:35.41 | Denmark | kimosabe : Yes. |
| 02:36.24 | kimosabe | denmark can you lead me in the corect direction ? |
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| 02:40.39 | Denmark | kimosabe : # |
| 02:40.46 | Denmark | kimosabe : Thats only a guess though. |
| 02:41.09 | wmandra | evening all |
| 02:43.13 | Denmark | kimosabe : I am not sure what exactly your problem is. Try typing # after the number, though. |
| 02:44.14 | kimosabe | what i mean is that if i dial a number from my sip device it takes about 7 seconds before it actually starts ringing |
| 02:44.48 | Denmark | kimosabe : Did you try # ? |
| 02:45.39 | kimosabe | im fixong to |
| 02:45.41 | kimosabe | thanks man |
| 02:46.21 | Denmark | :) |
| 02:48.47 | FLeiXiuS | When I call an IVR via an 800 number, the IVR doesn't understand my key inputs? Is there a feature that allows me to enter in numbers after the call is initiated |
| 02:49.08 | FLeiXiuS | I tried setting the timout(digit) to a much higher value |
| 02:49.19 | FLeiXiuS | Around 1million seconds ;-) |
| 02:50.11 | froguz | kimosabe, change the digittimeout parameter, or press the # key after dialing, it will send the number inmediatly without waiting for you to enter another digit |
| 02:51.06 | froguz | featuredigittimeout (features.conf) |
| 02:55.56 | FLeiXiuS | Digit's are no longer allowed to be entered after a call is made...is there a time out any where which needs to be adjusted? |
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| 03:00.13 | PakiPenguin | morning |
| 03:00.14 | Denmark | What? |
| 03:00.36 | Strom_C | afterneveninght |
| 03:02.12 | FLeiXiuS | Anyone have any idea? |
| 03:03.10 | wunderkin | FLeiXiuS, and it works to other places through the same phone/provider? |
| 03:03.38 | FLeiXiuS | Yeah without going through asterisk it works fine |
| 03:04.00 | FLeiXiuS | Asterisk just isn't sending the dtmf down the line. I take it that it'd be called dtmf |
| 03:04.14 | FLeiXiuS | It's just a digit stream going down the line |
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| 03:04.33 | Denmark | FLeiXiuS : Whats your phone? |
| 03:04.37 | FLeiXiuS | 7960 |
| 03:04.45 | wunderkin | check the dtmfmode |
| 03:05.18 | Denmark | Should I google it? |
| 03:07.04 | wmandra | for a 7960 dtmfmode=rfc2833 in sip.conf |
| 03:07.53 | wmandra | you might also want to check the dtmfmode for your provider |
| 03:08.19 | dlynes | does rfc2833 even work? |
| 03:08.26 | FLeiXiuS | Yeah I'm using rfc2833 |
| 03:08.30 | wmandra | works here just fine |
| 03:08.37 | Denmark | Will the asterisk support 7971g-ge even though tis not listed? |
| 03:08.42 | FLeiXiuS | That's why I'm thinking maybe it's something else. |
| 03:08.44 | dlynes | The only setting I've been able to get to work for both voicemail menu and for outbound autoattendant menus is dtmfmode=info |
| 03:09.08 | Denmark | dlynes : Everybody uses rfc2833, with a few exceptions. |
| 03:09.15 | Denmark | afaik |
| 03:09.32 | dlynes | Denmark: Then why will it never work properly for me? Is there a trick? |
| 03:09.40 | wmandra | flexixius: who are you using for your voip provider?? or are you using analog.... |
| 03:09.46 | Denmark | dlynes : Never had any trouble. |
| 03:10.17 | dlynes | Denmark: My upstream is using Sansay VSX switches |
| 03:10.28 | FLeiXiuS | wmandra: I'm using my POT's line, SKINNY from client's to asterisk, then SIP from asterisk to the gw which then connects to my pstn |
| 03:11.08 | wmandra | i would switch the 79xx to sip firmware |
| 03:11.14 | Qwell | wmandra: Why? sip sucks |
| 03:11.19 | Qwell | yeah, I said it |
| 03:11.20 | Denmark | dlynes : I am purely guessing here, but they could be the reason. Also a sipaware router could be a problem I don't know. |
| 03:11.51 | dlynes | Denmark: my routers are all sip atheist |
| 03:11.54 | FLeiXiuS | wmandra: That would cause a big problem for a call cluster I'm connected to. Which only handles SCCP. |
| 03:12.18 | Denmark | dlynes : I never really thought about using 2833 .. its just there. |
| 03:12.41 | wmandra | dlynes, you could also check the settings in the SIPDefault.cnf for the phones..... dtmf_inband: 1 dtmf_outofband: avt |
| 03:13.08 | dlynes | wmandra: you must be talking for specific phones |
| 03:13.22 | dlynes | wmandra: I have this problem for Aastra phones, Azatel phones, and Grandstream phones |
| 03:13.31 | wmandra | for the cisco 79xx |
| 03:13.46 | dlynes | None of my users can afford cisco |
| 03:13.47 | wmandra | sorry, didn;t realize you were using a different phone |
| 03:13.52 | wmandra | i'm a little tired |
| 03:16.52 | Denmark | You're not alone, wmandra |
| 03:17.00 | wmandra | lol |
| 03:17.40 | FLeiXiuS | Ugh, dtmf tones work via me to asterisk, but when they go out via sip to my router they're getting denied or something. Voicemail works fine. But calling to an outbound IVR...that's the problem. |
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| 03:19.28 | Cybertoy | must be in the sip settings then |
| 03:20.08 | Cybertoy | all channels have to be configured the right way... so the sip channel for the phone.. as well as the channel for the outbound service you're using |
| 03:20.15 | Cybertoy | have to have the right dtmfmode settings. |
| 03:20.17 | Cybertoy | tricky. |
| 03:20.30 | Qwell | Cybertoy: not true |
| 03:20.38 | Cybertoy | no? |
| 03:20.42 | Cybertoy | that's the experience I made... |
| 03:20.42 | Qwell | if rtp isn't being bridged, no |
| 03:20.46 | FLeiXiuS | Asterisk is sending as RFC2833 but my router is understanding CISCO-RTP |
| 03:20.58 | Qwell | FLeiXiuS: Then change your router to use rfc2833 |
| 03:21.10 | FLeiXiuS | or at least the dtmf-relay is configured for cisco-rtp |
| 03:21.11 | wmandra | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk+cisco+FXO |
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| 03:22.37 | wmandra | out of curiosity has anyone found a good presense based findme/followme solution for asterisk that doesn;t use BT??? |
| 03:22.48 | Qwell | BT? |
| 03:22.52 | wmandra | bluetooth |
| 03:23.09 | SplasPood | you want one that uses embedded rfid? :P |
| 03:23.19 | Qwell | implanted rfid |
| 03:23.24 | wmandra | hmmmm.... sure if you got a link |
| 03:23.27 | Denmark | yummy |
| 03:23.29 | SplasPood | yea, that was a better choice of words |
| 03:23.31 | SplasPood | haha |
| 03:23.45 | wmandra | although i was looking for something more along the lines of M$ LCS |
| 03:23.58 | Cybertoy | just let everything ring at the same time.. :) |
| 03:24.12 | Qwell | Cybertoy: yeah, really...who needs routing? |
| 03:24.18 | Cybertoy | lol |
| 03:24.18 | Denmark | "Implanted rfid with gravy and taters .." |
| 03:24.58 | Denmark | Why don't those darn terrorists blow M$ to pieces? |
| 03:25.01 | wmandra | i like the idea of the callerid popup so i can select what number to forward the call to |
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| 03:26.35 | FLeiXiuS | wmandra: Nice find ;-) |
| 03:26.52 | wmandra | flex: GOOGLE ;) |
| 03:27.14 | Denmark | That would at least make some sense.. In a wierd way .. on the other hand ... all those silly ties would buy M$ products in sympathy.. |
| 03:27.19 | FLeiXiuS | Which search string did you use? |
| 03:27.35 | wmandra | asterisk and cisco router |
| 03:27.52 | FLeiXiuS | Ha, I've been going more specific |
| 03:27.55 | wmandra | 7th link down |
| 03:28.23 | wmandra | although i knew it was on the wiki, just couldn't remember where |
| 03:28.39 | Denmark | You have no comments? What a sick world .. |
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| 03:30.08 | techman97_andy | hello all - I'm making great strides to getting this puppy running, but I'm at one last issue. I have successfully connected my softphone via the Internet to my * server behind a PIX firewall...YAY! I can make calls and get full audio. However - if someone attempts to call me...I don't get the call / it doesn't ring, and the caller goes to my VM. Any ideas of what I could check? |
| 03:30.22 | FLeiXiuS | wmandra: It appears my IOS needs dtmf-relay set to rtp-rte |
| 03:32.30 | Strom_C | techman97_andy, your firewall isnt letting the connection through to your phone |
| 03:32.42 | mitcheloc | wmadra: what were you looking for? |
| 03:33.04 | techman97_andy | I have 5060 and the 10000-20000 udp ports forwarded to me in my router here? Is there another port / port range I need to open up? |
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| 03:42.19 | FLeiXiuS | net-split much |
| 03:42.19 | FLeiXiuS | lol |
| 03:45.07 | Abydos313 | that was a pretty good one |
| 03:45.35 | dlynes | holy crikeys batman |
| 03:47.00 | Shaun2222 | I have a macro running from dial, but i want it to hang up both ends... |
| 03:47.09 | Shaun2222 | i read that MACRO_RESULT=ABORT should do this |
| 03:47.13 | Shaun2222 | but it doesnt... |
| 03:50.27 | Denmark | Here in europe, we have the problem that the keypad of the phone is opposit of the keypad on the computer. |
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| 03:50.37 | Denmark | I wonder if I can reverse that with my dialplan? |
| 03:51.10 | Strom_C | Denmark, the keypad of the phone is the same worldwide |
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| 03:51.30 | Strom_C | 1-0 top to bottom on the phone, 0-9 bottom to top on the keypad |
| 03:51.52 | Denmark | Strom_M: I still want to change it so that top is "789" like computer instead of "123". |
| 03:52.05 | Denmark | and vise versa. |
| 03:52.07 | Strom_C | you want to change the PHONE?? |
| 03:52.10 | Strom_C | you're mad |
| 03:52.12 | Strom_C | :) |
| 03:52.29 | Denmark | Well .. switching the buttons is no problem .. |
| 03:53.04 | Strom_C | I can dial faster than the switch can recognize my digits, and I can 10-key like mad on the computer. It's not that difficult to learn both, you know |
| 03:53.08 | Denmark | I just wonder if there is a way to change the dialplan so that it changes the dialed numbers accordingly. |
| 03:53.39 | Shaun2222 | Strom_C: any idea about my problem with MACRO_RESULT=ABORT.. i'm trying to get my screen macro to hangup both the caller and callee |
| 03:53.41 | Denmark | Strom_M: You don't use the keypad when you 10-key .. |
| 03:53.57 | Strom_C | Denmark, the numeric keypad |
| 03:53.59 | Shaun2222 | it seams that macro_Result hangs up on the callee and just returns to the dialplan which next is voicemail... |
| 03:54.03 | Shaun2222 | and thats what the caller gets |
| 03:54.52 | Denmark | Strom_M: Anyhow .. at work for instance, I keep switching from entering numbers on computer keypad in accounting program, and dialing phonenumbers .. maybe you can imagine the confusion. I use the same hand. |
| 03:55.07 | Strom_C | Denmark, I do the same thing...never confuses me |
| 03:55.25 | Denmark | Strom_M: Well, you're obviously smarter than me. |
| 03:55.49 | Denmark | (Or younger - perhaps both) |
| 03:55.50 | Strom_C | besides, in telephony, you count starting at 1 and end up at 0 |
| 03:56.02 | techman97_andy | hey all - here's a fun one. * is behind a firewall - I can connect and dial out just fine with my softphone (xten). However, my SIP never registers, so I cannot take incoming calls. Any ideas? I have 5060tcp/udp and 10000-20000 udp open to forward to the * box on that end, and the same to my workstation on my end. Any ideas of what I could look at? |
| 03:56.04 | Strom_C | residual effect of the old step-by-step exchanges :) |
| 03:56.21 | Denmark | Strom_M: Right .. but older keypad phones were like computers. |
| 03:56.30 | Strom_C | Denmark, what? |
| 03:56.46 | Denmark | I think I might still have one that has "789" in the top. |
| 03:56.46 | Strom_C | Denmark, I've never seen a touchtone phone that didnt go 1234567890 |
| 03:57.09 | Denmark | You don't get them anymore |
| 03:57.14 | Denmark | They're very old. |
| 03:57.20 | Strom_C | even the first touchtone phone ever made in 1962 went 1234567890 - with no * and # key :) |
| 03:57.31 | Denmark | (Well, like 20-30 years) |
| 03:57.50 | dlynes | 20-30 years ago is not very long ago |
| 03:57.58 | Denmark | Strom_M: Maybe its exception. |
| 03:57.59 | Strom_C | http://mysite.verizon.net/paul-f/we25up.htm |
| 03:58.09 | Denmark | dlynes: Hence the detailisation :) |
| 03:58.33 | Abydos313 | i need C0:FF:EE :) |
| 03:58.34 | Strom_C | http://phonebooth.us/phones/images/Web%201500D.jpg |
| 03:59.01 | Denmark | Strom_M: I still want to change it. |
| 03:59.05 | Strom_C | sigh |
| 03:59.07 | Abydos313 | Strom_C i don't know if i've ever seen a phone like that |
| 03:59.12 | dlynes | Denmark: but yeah, every touch tone phone i can remember has always been 1...9, 0 |
| 03:59.15 | Denmark | nice phone |
| 03:59.36 | Strom_C | Abydos313, they added * and # in 1968 or so |
| 03:59.48 | Denmark | A tad simplistic .. but very nice. |
| 03:59.57 | *** join/#asterisk project_2501 (n=project-@S01060004e2929dc9.br.shawcable.net) |
| 04:00.00 | Strom_C | Denmark, the simplicity is the beauty of the whole thing |
| 04:00.04 | Abydos313 | i was 2 |
| 04:00.10 | Strom_C | i have the twelve-button version of the same phone next to my bed |
| 04:00.20 | dlynes | even up until about ten years ago, most people i knew used pulse dialing |
| 04:00.23 | Denmark | Strom_M: Yeah .. would like the *, the # and the "R" though .. and maybe a muter. |
| 04:00.30 | dlynes | it was cheaper per month than touch tone |
| 04:00.31 | Abydos313 | i wish i would have kept an old rotary phone. threw away so many |
| 04:00.36 | Strom_C | redial is for wimos |
| 04:00.38 | Strom_C | er |
| 04:00.40 | Strom_C | wimps |
| 04:00.45 | Strom_C | real men dial every call :) |
| 04:00.55 | Denmark | R == other line |
| 04:00.58 | Denmark | not redial. |
| 04:01.00 | Strom_C | Abydos313, I've got tons of rotary phones |
| 04:01.13 | Strom_C | Denmark, oh, R == hookflash? |
| 04:01.16 | Denmark | yeah |
| 04:01.19 | Strom_C | thats what the hookswitch is for |
| 04:01.22 | Strom_C | you flash that |
| 04:01.27 | dlynes | I used to win so many radio call-in contests by setting s11=30 on the modem, and using a war dialer :) |
| 04:01.42 | Denmark | Strom_M: Well .. then you don't need the keypad anyhow, right? |
| 04:01.46 | Denmark | ;-) |
| 04:01.47 | Strom_C | haha |
| 04:01.49 | Abydos313 | nice |
| 04:01.58 | Strom_C | actually I hookflashed an entire number the other day |
| 04:02.20 | Strom_C | I found a kiosk phone with no dial and I wanted to see who their long distance provider was...so I hookflashed the LD ID number :) |
| 04:02.36 | Denmark | Actually, some phonebooths in this country used to be free of charge if you hook-flashed the numbers. |
| 04:02.41 | Abydos313 | that was greek to me |
| 04:02.52 | dlynes | how do you hook flash? |
| 04:03.03 | dlynes | i thought that only allowed you to use the flash feature? |
| 04:03.07 | Strom_C | dlynes, you press the hookswitch momentarily and then release it |
| 04:03.26 | dlynes | Strom_C: well, i kinda figured that when it's called hook flashing the number :) |
| 04:03.39 | Strom_C | dlynes, if you do it rythmically enough and fast enough, you're manually pulse dialing |
| 04:03.42 | dlynes | ah |
| 04:04.05 | Denmark | Its quite fun, though touch toning might be a tad faster.. |
| 04:04.06 | dlynes | I just know how to do transfers and conference calls and hold using it |
| 04:04.12 | Denmark | (and less error prone) |
| 04:04.21 | Strom_C | Denmark, bah, touchtone |
| 04:04.45 | dlynes | I guess that LD ID number is only valid stateside? |
| 04:04.50 | Denmark | The one on the picture? |
| 04:04.54 | dlynes | i.e. AT&T? |
| 04:05.15 | Strom_C | dlynes, 1-700-555-4141 in the US tells you who your long distance company is |
| 04:05.22 | Strom_C | Denmark, http://www.msu.edu/~atchiso5/302_files/image002.jpg |
| 04:05.26 | Strom_C | that's a 302 :) |
| 04:05.27 | dlynes | ah |
| 04:05.35 | dlynes | I thought 700 was owned by Digium? |
| 04:05.57 | file[laptop] | ha |
| 04:06.00 | Strom_C | dlynes, god no |
| 04:06.02 | Denmark | Strom_M: Cult! |
| 04:06.06 | Strom_C | cult??? |
| 04:06.12 | file[laptop] | if we owned our own area code, well that would be cool |
| 04:06.13 | dlynes | but iaxtel is all 1700 |
| 04:06.14 | Denmark | very cool |
| 04:06.25 | dlynes | or is that a virtual area code that doesn't really exist? |
| 04:06.25 | Strom_C | dlynes, 700 is reserved for interexchange carrier-specific services |
| 04:06.46 | Strom_C | dlynes, 700 was used for iaxtel because it was unlikely to conflict with existing services |
| 04:06.50 | dlynes | so digium just owns a number of 700 cos? |
| 04:06.54 | Strom_C | no |
| 04:06.54 | Denmark | Strom_M: Does ata's in general support pulse dialing? |
| 04:07.01 | Strom_C | Denmark, not that I'm aware of |
| 04:07.15 | Strom_C | dlynes, the iaxtel numbering plan is independent of the NANP |
| 04:07.21 | Denmark | Strom_M: So no IP dialing for you? ;-) |
| 04:07.21 | Strom_C | it merely folllows the same pattern |
| 04:07.32 | Strom_C | Denmark, my zaptel card supports pulse dialing just fine |
| 04:07.39 | Denmark | ahh |
| 04:07.44 | Denmark | Neato :) |
| 04:07.46 | dlynes | so iow, the 1-700 numbers for iaxtel cannot be dialed from a pots line? |
| 04:07.51 | Strom_C | dlynes, exactly |
| 04:07.54 | dlynes | ah |
| 04:07.57 | dlynes | that's crappy :) |
| 04:08.01 | Denmark | "IP phoning like in the '50s" :-) |
| 04:08.21 | *** join/#asterisk mogorman (n=mogorman@68.62.237.103) |
| 04:08.38 | project_2501 | does anyone here use the 'ztdummy' kernel module to operate a conference? |
| 04:08.47 | Strom_C | project_2501, yes |
| 04:08.49 | mogorman | ye |
| 04:08.51 | mogorman | s |
| 04:09.05 | file[laptop] | mogorman! |
| 04:09.14 | mogorman | file[laptop], !!! |
| 04:09.16 | Denmark | Strom_M: With that phone in the house, you don't need a handgun to defend yourself .. just throw the phone at his nose, and he is finished - and the phone probably just need a good cleaning. |
| 04:09.18 | Strom_C | Denmark, let me show you the telephone I have on my asterisk box right now... |
| 04:10.00 | file[laptop] | mogorman: I wasn't expecting anyone to be back this early |
| 04:10.01 | project_2501 | Strom_C: do I have to install the zaptel driver to make it available? |
| 04:10.01 | mogorman | well my lady |
| 04:10.01 | Strom_C | project_2501, obviously |
| 04:10.01 | mogorman | wanted to knock off |
| 04:10.01 | file[laptop] | pfft |
| 04:10.01 | Strom_C | modprobe zaptel; modprobe ztdummy |
| 04:10.04 | dlynes | project_2501: if you're using linux 2.4, you need to uncomment out the commented out ztdummy; if you're using linux 2.6, just make, using 'make linux26' |
| 04:10.05 | file[laptop] | mogorman: I wish I could have been there :( |
| 04:10.15 | *** join/#asterisk Jaxxan (n=jaxxan@leone-canopy05.bluelink.as) |
| 04:10.16 | file[laptop] | but, there's always next year! |
| 04:10.17 | Denmark | Strom_M: Show me |
| 04:10.31 | mogorman | yeah it was fun |
| 04:10.35 | mogorman | it always is |
| 04:10.36 | Jaxxan | hey ya'll |
| 04:10.42 | mogorman | digium = non stop fun |
| 04:11.11 | Jaxxan | so i'm running 1.0.9 and i feel compelled to go to 1.2.5 for additional features. |
| 04:11.24 | Jaxxan | is it gonna be a smooth transition for me or am i gonna be in hell for hours ? |
| 04:11.34 | Strom_C | Denmark, looking for it now :) |
| 04:11.39 | dlynes | Jaxxan: it's a smooth transition for the most part |
| 04:11.40 | Denmark | Jaxxan: Yes to both! :-P |
| 04:11.59 | Jaxxan | wonderful |
| 04:12.03 | Denmark | Jaxxan: (J/K) :) |
| 04:12.04 | Strom_C | Denmark, here's my 302 again |
| 04:12.05 | Strom_C | http://www.stromcarlson.com/misc/P1010028.JPG |
| 04:12.07 | dlynes | Jaxxan: You'll probably get a few warnings in the log file you'll have to fix eventually |
| 04:12.24 | dlynes | Jaxxan: that way in case Digium removes support for that method later on, you won't be caught unawares |
| 04:12.47 | Jaxxan | okies |
| 04:12.59 | dlynes | Jaxxan: A few of the old ways of doing things have been replaced with a generic 'Set' method |
| 04:13.01 | Strom_C | Denmark, hmm, dont have a good photo of it. |
| 04:13.15 | dlynes | Jaxxan: but the old way of doing things is still valid |
| 04:13.20 | Jaxxan | so i'm also using zaptel-1.0.9.1 is the new zaptel 1.2.5 pretty good ? |
| 04:13.42 | Denmark | Strom_M: This one is not hooked up? |
| 04:14.16 | dlynes | Jaxxan: Depends...are you on a pri? |
| 04:14.22 | Jaxxan | yes |
| 04:14.31 | Jaxxan | i gotta t400p |
| 04:14.34 | dlynes | Jaxxan: you'll want to grab zaptel-trunk and libpri-trunk then |
| 04:14.40 | dlynes | Jaxxan: i..e the latest svn copy |
| 04:14.59 | Strom_C | Denmark, ah, i found it |
| 04:15.05 | dlynes | Jaxxan: libpri 1.2.2 and zaptel 1.2.5 are quite buggy on pris |
| 04:15.07 | Jaxxan | i dont know much about svn except that it replaced CVS right ? |
| 04:15.09 | Denmark | ok |
| 04:15.12 | Strom_C | http://www.stromcarlson.com/misc/trimline.jpg |
| 04:15.17 | dlynes | Jaxxan: svn is a better cvs |
| 04:15.18 | Strom_C | Denmark, the 302 is on my POTS line |
| 04:15.24 | Jaxxan | can i use asterisk 1.2.5 and still use zaptel 1.0.9.1 then ? |
| 04:15.29 | mogorman | ooh |
| 04:15.33 | mogorman | vonage is hiring |
| 04:15.45 | dlynes | Jaxxan: if you're running a recent linux distribution, you'll have svn |
| 04:15.52 | Denmark | Strom_M: Hehe :) |
| 04:16.00 | Jaxxan | i'm on redhat 4 atm |
| 04:16.03 | dlynes | Jaxxan: zaptel-trunk is stable as is libpri-trunk |
| 04:16.12 | dlynes | Jaxxan: redhat 4? |
| 04:16.19 | dlynes | Jaxxan: as in like about 7 or 8 years old? |
| 04:16.20 | Denmark | Strom_M: I wonder how I could wonder why you had a POTS line ;-) |
| 04:16.41 | Jaxxan | EL4.0 |
| 04:16.48 | Strom_C | Denmark, because I don't completely trust voip yet :) |
| 04:16.51 | dlynes | Jaxxan: ah...what kernel version is that? |
| 04:16.57 | Strom_C | also, if the power goes out, i'm fucked without a pots line |
| 04:17.05 | Jaxxan | using 2.6.9 atm |
| 04:17.11 | Denmark | Strom_M: I guess you're a tad careful about upgrading your phones too. ;-) |
| 04:18.10 | dlynes | Jaxxan: if you upgrade past linux 2.6.12, you'll need to use zaptel 1.2.x or zaptel-trunk |
| 04:18.21 | dlynes | Jaxxan: Linux 2.6.13 removed the simple api |
| 04:18.36 | Denmark | Strom_M: Then again, as you mentioned - the only thing you might miss, is the asterisk and the number key. |
| 04:18.44 | dlynes | Jaxxan: zaptel 1.0.x depended on that for linux 2.6 support |
| 04:18.52 | Jaxxan | i probably wont unless i build a new box |
| 04:19.20 | Jaxxan | can you help me real quick with zapata? |
| 04:19.21 | *** join/#asterisk |dennis| (i=dennis@200.32.215.84) |
| 04:19.28 | dlynes | Jaxxan: in what way? |
| 04:19.30 | Jaxxan | i'm currently using zapata-1.0.1 |
| 04:19.31 | Denmark | Strom_M: * and # |
| 04:19.47 | Denmark | Strom_M: I have 3 phones .. all touch tones and PSTN. |
| 04:19.48 | Jaxxan | and when i went to asterisk 1.0.9 i'm still using zapata-1.0.1 |
| 04:19.50 | dlynes | Jaxxan: zapata? not zaptel? |
| 04:20.02 | Jaxxan | i have zaptel on there too |
| 04:20.06 | Shaun2222 | Jaxxan: i built zaptel-1.2.5 on Cento4 (RHEL4) running 2.6.9-34 |
| 04:20.07 | dlynes | ok |
| 04:20.21 | dlynes | shaun222: are you using a pri card, though? |
| 04:20.26 | Shaun2222 | no |
| 04:20.26 | Jaxxan | were those packages combined or something? |
| 04:20.34 | dlynes | shaun222: yeah...that's the problem |
| 04:20.49 | dlynes | shaun222: we both are...there's problems with 1.2.5 when you're using a pri card |
| 04:20.56 | Shaun2222 | i see |
| 04:21.04 | dlynes | shaun222: when you're using libpri 1.2.2 |
| 04:21.20 | Denmark | Strom_M: I find your simplistic approach appealing though. |
| 04:21.28 | dlynes | Jaxxan: zaptel-1.0.9.2 didn't need the zapata project |
| 04:21.33 | Denmark | Strom_M: And I adore your 302 :-) |
| 04:21.41 | dlynes | Jaxxan: well...1.0.8 and higher |
| 04:21.48 | dlynes | Jaxxan: I don't know about anything earlier than that |
| 04:21.48 | Shaun2222 | Strom_C: what are you using this for? http://www.stromcarlson.com/misc/PC160012.JPG |
| 04:21.50 | Jaxxan | ahhh |
| 04:22.13 | Jaxxan | so just slap the latest zaptel-1.2.5 on there and i'll be all set then |
| 04:22.17 | Strom_C | shaun222: it was my attempt at making ana it conditioner |
| 04:22.20 | Strom_C | er |
| 04:22.23 | Strom_C | an air conditioner |
| 04:22.27 | dlynes | Jaxxan: zaptel-trunk and libpri-trunk |
| 04:22.38 | Jaxxan | from svn right ? |
| 04:22.42 | dlynes | Jaxxan: the asterisk.org download page tells you how to grab the trunk svn version |
| 04:23.06 | Jaxxan | lemme check it out |
| 04:23.17 | dlynes | Jaxxan: install libpri-trunk first, then zaptel-trunk, then asterisk 1.2.6, then asterisk-addons-1.2.1, then asterisk-sounds-1.2.1 |
| 04:23.25 | Shaun2222 | strom_c: http://www.stromcarlson.com/misc/att-valentine.jpg <--- thats just wrong!!!!! |
| 04:23.33 | Strom_C | but so funny |
| 04:23.39 | Jaxxan | ok |
| 04:23.56 | dlynes | Jaxxan: forgot about iax-0.2.2...install that after zaptel-trunk, but before asterisk-1.2.6 |
| 04:24.11 | Jaxxan | i dont use iax |
| 04:24.14 | Shaun2222 | not to me, 2 gay guys rapped in a american flag, whomever made that needs to die! |
| 04:24.16 | dlynes | Jaxxan: ah...ok |
| 04:24.34 | Strom_C | shaun222, you going homophobic on us or something? |
| 04:25.02 | Strom_C | careful with that...you may incur the wrath of, like, half the asterisk developers ;) |
| 04:25.11 | Shaun2222 | na, i dont have a problem with homo's for the most part, but i do when it's in public... |
| 04:25.13 | tsume | Strom_C: hah! halarious |
| 04:25.34 | tsume | people should keep their sexual orientation in their home, even heteros |
| 04:26.03 | tsume | if they like having sex with animals, hetero, homo, trans, bondage, wahtever |
| 04:26.14 | project_2501 | dlynes: I just got the zaptel driver installed, but when I run 'modprobe zaptel' I get a bunch of errors and am refered to dmesg, which has the following message; zaptel: Unknown symbol class_simple_device_add |
| 04:26.15 | asterboy | man brokeback * again? |
| 04:26.16 | tsume | fine, but keep it in the home |
| 04:26.17 | Denmark | Now we got him started :-) |
| 04:26.31 | tsume | why does everyone from all the channels saythat? |
| 04:26.37 | project_2501 | dlynes: and a few other similar ones |
| 04:26.58 | project_2501 | dlynes: any ideas what I can do? |
| 04:26.59 | tsume | I swear I'm the only damn extrovert on irc |
| 04:27.07 | Denmark | tsume : Few people speak the truth without censorship. |
| 04:27.17 | dlynes | project_2501: you're using linux 2.6.13 or higher |
| 04:27.17 | Shaun2222 | i think the hole thing of them using the american flag to cover up is rediculis, the stupid fucks could have used somthing else... |
| 04:27.29 | Shaun2222 | whole* |
| 04:27.30 | dlynes | project_2501: you must be trying to install zaptel 1.0.x.x |
| 04:27.33 | tsume | Shaun2222: the american flag is patriotic |
| 04:27.41 | Denmark | Shaun2222: Yeah .. like the canadian flag, right? |
| 04:27.41 | tsume | Shaun2222: the flag has no resemblance to God |
| 04:28.05 | Shaun2222 | tsume: who said i give a shit about god. |
| 04:28.07 | Shaun2222 | :) |
| 04:28.08 | tsume | Shaun2222: The U.S. of A. was made to escape religious prosecution, not develop like it has back to it. |
| 04:28.12 | project_2501 | dlynes: 2.6 kernel and zaptel 1.0.8 |
| 04:28.23 | tsume | Shaun2222: theres no harm in using the american flag. its called freedom of speech |
| 04:28.24 | dlynes | project_2501: yeah, but your 2.6 kernel is 2.6.13 or higher |
| 04:28.27 | Shaun2222 | Denmark: lol, but na.. |
| 04:28.33 | Denmark | Shaun2222: :-) |
| 04:28.36 | dlynes | project_2501: why are you trying ot use zaptel 1.0? |
| 04:28.54 | Shaun2222 | tsume: theirs rules to the flag, one of them should be no waping gay guys in it! |
| 04:28.58 | tsume | Shaun2222: I'll use britney spears as my wrap ;) |
| 04:29.06 | Shaun2222 | tsume: nice!!!! |
| 04:29.10 | project_2501 | dlynes: well I run gentoo, and just ran an 'emerge zaptel' and thats the latest version offered in the portage tree |
| 04:29.11 | dlynes | project_2501: 2.6.12 was the last kernel version to have the class_simple_... api |
| 04:29.19 | tsume | Shaun2222: I don't mind gays expressing themselves in a patriotic fashion :) |
| 04:29.36 | tsume | as long as the flag isn't burning, I encourage it! |
| 04:30.07 | project_2501 | dlynes: if I go to the asterisk site and get the 1.2.5 driver set there, where do I install it so that 'modprobe' will find the modules? |
| 04:30.08 | dlynes | project_2501: well, either 1. Upgrade your distribution 2. switch to a different distribution 3. downgrade your kernel to 2.6.12 or older 4. download the zaptel source code to install it |
| 04:30.12 | Denmark | Strom_M: http://www.stromcarlson.com/misc/9316.jpg |
| 04:30.26 | dlynes | project_2501: it'll know where to install it...just run make ; make install |
| 04:30.37 | dlynes | project_2501: make sure you have your kernel sources installed |
| 04:30.38 | tsume | nortel should die! :D |
| 04:30.45 | dlynes | tsume: Nortel rules!!! |
| 04:30.53 | tsume | nortel blows :P |
| 04:31.02 | tsume | and their 400 ATA sucks too! |
| 04:31.05 | dlynes | Not when it's your main bread and butter :) |
| 04:31.06 | tsume | *$400 |
| 04:31.16 | Shaun2222 | Strom_C: u sure have a thing for old phones and bell :) |
| 04:31.25 | project_2501 | dlynes: do I run 'make linux26 install' or 'make linux26' thena 'make install' ? |
| 04:31.25 | tsume | dlynes: asterisk improves my profits.... and Budgetone too! :D |
| 04:31.30 | Strom_C | shaun222, yup yup |
| 04:31.33 | dlynes | project_2501: make linux26 ; make install |
| 04:31.47 | project_2501 | dlynes: oh ok, thanks a lot man |
| 04:31.48 | Denmark | Strom_M: 2600? |
| 04:31.51 | tsume | dlynes: I was a nortel, avaya, and archaic phone system tech before I knew asterisk |
| 04:32.03 | tsume | dlynes: asterisk is my dream come true :D |
| 04:32.07 | dlynes | tsume: we deal with nortel and panasonic |
| 04:32.15 | tsume | dlynes: those bastard systems, heh |
| 04:32.28 | dlynes | tsume: we're just trying to get asterisk to work properly before we go full bore on selling it |
| 04:32.31 | tsume | dlynes: there is a KX-something something something I'm replacing |
| 04:32.31 | Strom_C | Denmark, ? |
| 04:32.43 | dlynes | tsume: KX-TDA30? |
| 04:32.48 | tsume | no, an older system |
| 04:32.49 | Denmark | Strom_M: That phone seems a tad more "up to date"? |
| 04:33.02 | dlynes | tsume: ah...but it's an older KSU, eh? |
| 04:33.17 | tsume | yeah. Someone installed it and screwed them over |
| 04:33.27 | tsume | I'm going to make 3k from it, so I'm happy. |
| 04:33.27 | dlynes | tsume: that's about par for panasonic dealers |
| 04:33.44 | dlynes | tsume: panasonic dealers are highly unethical |
| 04:33.49 | tsume | dlynes: hehe. |
| 04:34.00 | Shaun2222 | Strom_C: that in your house? http://www.stromcarlson.com/misc/decorate_by_phone.jpg |
| 04:34.02 | tsume | dlynes: well he was up here in Alaska, he installed it and moved away quick. |
| 04:34.05 | dlynes | tsume: we only sell panasonic when our customers insist on buying it |
| 04:34.07 | Shaun2222 | Strom_C: actually have to put coins in it? |
| 04:34.08 | Strom_C | shaun222, yes |
| 04:34.23 | dlynes | tsume: otherwise we push nortel and asterisk |
| 04:34.33 | Strom_C | no - it's on my POTS line |
| 04:34.35 | dlynes | tsume: sometimes a combination of the two |
| 04:34.38 | tsume | dlynes: nortel I don't like, but only because I had to order from a source. |
| 04:34.50 | Strom_C | though if i can get the zaptel card to do coin control, im there |
| 04:34.52 | tsume | dlynes: however my sources would give me the latest beta stuff :) |
| 04:35.04 | Shaun2222 | Strom_C: ahh, that reminds me, i wonder if i still have my modified tone dialer :) |
| 04:35.06 | dlynes | tsume: and that's a good thing? |
| 04:35.15 | tsume | dlynes: hell yea, had features which were to die for. |
| 04:35.19 | dlynes | ah |
| 04:35.34 | tsume | but now theres asterisk. oh! and TDM cards like the 2400 with onboard echo cancellation |
| 04:35.37 | dlynes | cics 7.0 just came out recently |
| 04:35.54 | dlynes | tsume: yeah, but those tdm boards are so blood expensive |
| 04:36.04 | tsume | dlynes: not really :) not compared to nortel |
| 04:36.12 | tsume | dlynes: and parts are easier to replace. |
| 04:36.12 | dlynes | tsume: they kinda price asterisk out compared to nortel a lot of the time |
| 04:36.15 | Denmark | Strom_M: Is that a cisco in the background, near the fancy chair? |
| 04:36.40 | tsume | dlynes: compared to what is available on the market, asterisk is a cheaper deal. |
| 04:36.51 | tsume | dlynes: the upgrades would really be the killer though. |
| 04:36.58 | dlynes | tsume: I tend to disagree |
| 04:37.02 | Denmark | Strom_M: And the lap top |
| 04:37.12 | Denmark | Strom_M: (On the picture with the payphone) |
| 04:37.16 | dlynes | tsume: a lot of the time for less phone lines, nortel can be as much as $600 cheaper |
| 04:37.34 | tsume | dlynes: I'd just like to price a voip nortel system comparing to a asterisk :) |
| 04:37.47 | dlynes | tsume: ummm...bcm is another ballgame, altogether |
| 04:37.55 | dlynes | tsume: bcm is a hell of a lot more expensive than asterisk |
| 04:38.16 | Shaun2222 | could asterisk be used to for dialup internet access? |
| 04:38.35 | tsume | dlynes: also features. nortel doesn't offer it, and theres no way I'm going to use bastardous phonesystems like erm.. well already forgot the major system for hotels :) |
| 04:38.46 | dlynes | tsume: mitel? |
| 04:38.51 | tsume | yes, mitel! |
| 04:38.59 | *** join/#asterisk trbldwine (i=trbldwin@71.194.161.170) |
| 04:39.00 | dlynes | tsume: it's a huge pos |
| 04:39.02 | tsume | because its ready on the network, I make apps which they can use |
| 04:39.19 | tsume | dlynes: no shit :P plus my customers kept trying to screw me, but I always record serial numbers |
| 04:40.04 | dlynes | tsume: yeah...the biggest problem we have with asterisk is that there's no such thing as BLA, or shared line appearance |
| 04:40.28 | tsume | dlynes: could send patches :) |
| 04:40.36 | dlynes | tsume: most of our customers are used to seeing what line is coming in, and when someone picks up that line on another extension, everyone in the office seeing that the line is in use |
| 04:41.07 | dlynes | tsume: my biggest problem is that because of all the problems i'm having with asterisk, i don't have enough free time to write any asterisk code :) |
| 04:41.20 | tsume | dlynes: I don't think anywhere I've installed a system cares, since everyone I've installed has at least 6 lines, it would be pointless |
| 04:41.27 | dlynes | i'd love to...just don't have the time |
| 04:41.44 | MikeJ[Laptop] | dlynes, the problem with the whole line appearances thing is it is a concept specific to hard line telephony |
| 04:41.47 | dlynes | Yeah...a lot of our customers have 1, 2, or 3 lines |
| 04:41.54 | Denmark | ouch |
| 04:41.55 | Denmark | .. |
| 04:41.55 | MikeJ[Laptop] | in the world of voip, there is no such thing as line 1 |
| 04:41.58 | dlynes | MikeJ[Laptop]: and why's that? |
| 04:42.00 | Denmark | Could not open //usr/lib/ipkg/info/asterisk-sounds.list for writing: No space left on device |
| 04:42.00 | tsume | dlynes: aha. I remember those from my nortel days |
| 04:42.09 | Shaun2222 | Strom_C: where are these super_caller_id's from the phone company you work(ed) for? |
| 04:42.10 | tsume | dlynes: no space left on device, duh |
| 04:42.13 | tsume | oops |
| 04:42.15 | tsume | Denmark: ^^ |
| 04:42.18 | tsume | Denmark: df -h |
| 04:42.19 | MikeJ[Laptop] | real phone systems worth a damn do even do that anymore |
| 04:42.24 | Denmark | tsume : Its on my router. |
| 04:42.29 | MikeJ[Laptop] | don't that is |
| 04:42.36 | MikeJ[Laptop] | smaller key systems do |
| 04:42.37 | Corydon76-home | How would it work if the telco decided to move a call from channel 6 to channel 1 in the middle of a call? |
| 04:42.41 | dlynes | MikeJ[Laptop]: smaller offices often have four or less lines |
| 04:42.52 | dlynes | MikeJ[Laptop]: so they like to see the status of them on the phone |
| 04:42.56 | MikeJ[Laptop] | yes, that is more in the world of key stiff |
| 04:43.05 | dlynes | MikeJ[Laptop]: keysystems, yes |
| 04:43.07 | Corydon76-home | and how would it work, if the call didn't go out on a local physical line? |
| 04:43.14 | MikeJ[Laptop] | I have seen the same growing pains in compnies that grow |
| 04:43.29 | MikeJ[Laptop] | and grow out of 4 line systems and get their first T1 |
| 04:43.53 | dlynes | MikeJ[Laptop]: and other companies that might have 30 or 40 extensions want to see the status of those extensions, too |
| 04:44.08 | MikeJ[Laptop] | dlynes, but that part is doable |
| 04:44.08 | Denmark | tsume : Right .. I better telnet to it .. |
| 04:44.11 | dlynes | MikeJ[Laptop]: Asterisk supports that through BLF (dialplan hinting), but it's a kludge |
| 04:44.15 | Denmark | s/telnet/ssh/ |
| 04:44.23 | dlynes | MikeJ[Laptop]: rebooting a phone just resets it |
| 04:44.48 | dlynes | MikeJ[Laptop]: erm reloading the dialplan i mean |
| 04:45.21 | MikeJ[Laptop] | I am not in love with how it is implemented either.. but when there paradyme shifts to a voip, more user based than device based world... we need a better way to describe things |
| 04:45.25 | MikeJ[Laptop] | the question is how |
| 04:45.34 | Strom_C | shaun2222, thats not from the phone company |
| 04:45.39 | Strom_C | thats something i hacked up myself |
| 04:45.44 | MikeJ[Laptop] | how do you show accurate presense when it is based on user, not device |
| 04:46.02 | dlynes | MikeJ[Laptop]: so when your customers go from needing four lines to needing six or seven or eight lines, they buy a t1? |
| 04:46.02 | MikeJ[Laptop] | I think that is the bigger question, than the specifics of how you implement |
| 04:46.37 | MikeJ[Laptop] | dlynes, I was speaking more generally, the break even point is probably higher than 8 in this market |
| 04:46.38 | dlynes | MikeJ[Laptop]: t1's must be cheap in your neck of the woods |
| 04:46.47 | MikeJ[Laptop] | but eventually you run into some sort of limit |
| 04:46.52 | dlynes | MikeJ[Laptop]: ah |
| 04:46.56 | MikeJ[Laptop] | for example |
| 04:47.02 | demigod2k | you may want a frac T1 for internet though. I'd agree there's some point where you should just switch over |
| 04:47.02 | dlynes | MikeJ[Laptop]: yeah...here it would be more like about 15 or 16 |
| 04:47.10 | MikeJ[Laptop] | you run into the limit of number of BLF lights on a phone |
| 04:47.32 | demigod2k | the pricepoint here was approx 6-8 lines |
| 04:47.35 | MikeJ[Laptop] | but the question I pose is more theoretical\philisophical |
| 04:47.40 | dlynes | ah |
| 04:47.46 | dlynes | demigod2k: where are you? |
| 04:47.49 | demigod2k | whitmore lake, MI |
| 04:48.00 | dlynes | demigod2k: ah...yeah...more expensive here, in Canada |
| 04:48.09 | MikeJ[Laptop] | demigod2k, hehe.. my neck of the woods. |
| 04:48.15 | demigod2k | but I am including internet + phones as a bundle, assuming I can change both |
| 04:48.26 | demigod2k | the crossover point was surprisingly low |
| 04:48.47 | demigod2k | yay MI |
| 04:48.55 | MikeJ[Laptop] | I am not saying that customers don't want that functionality.. they do |
| 04:49.03 | MikeJ[Laptop] | I am saying the world is changing... |
| 04:49.07 | dlynes | demigod2k: freaking telcos here still have a near monopoly when it comes to T1's |
| 04:49.22 | Shaun2222 | Strom_C: you pulling that info from the net or somthing.. |
| 04:49.33 | Strom_C | LERG |
| 04:49.40 | Shaun2222 | LERG? |
| 04:49.42 | MikeJ[Laptop] | dlynes, I know of at least a couple clec's in MI doing T1's with voice and internet on the same line |
| 04:50.03 | dlynes | MikeJ[Laptop]: i'm guessing you need a channel bank for that too, eh? |
| 04:50.14 | MikeJ[Laptop] | or even more interesting, T1's with flexible voice |
| 04:50.35 | MikeJ[Laptop] | where it's all internet bandwidth until you get calls.. and it allocates voice onthe fly |
| 04:50.46 | dlynes | cool |
| 04:50.51 | dlynes | you need special hardware for that? |
| 04:51.01 | MikeJ[Laptop] | the interesting thing is, I have sniffed those T's before.. it's all voip.. they just don't tell the customers |
| 04:51.14 | MikeJ[Laptop] | they stick a router on it... |
| 04:51.14 | Jaxxan | alrighty, so svn's easy, do i do the snapshot or the trunk versions |
| 04:51.24 | dlynes | Jaxxan: trunk |
| 04:51.27 | MikeJ[Laptop] | it comes in as a t1, goes out as a T1 and an ethernet |
| 04:51.31 | Jaxxan | trunk is latest and greatest ? |
| 04:51.43 | MikeJ[Laptop] | y |
| 04:51.46 | dlynes | Jaxxan: not necessarily greatest, but in this case, it's the version that works |
| 04:51.52 | Jaxxan | ok |
| 04:52.00 | dlynes | MikeJ[Laptop]: he's on a pri |
| 04:52.06 | MikeJ[Laptop] | ? |
| 04:52.11 | dlynes | MikeJ[Laptop]: zaptel-1.2.5 and libpri-1.2.2 have problems with pris |
| 04:52.23 | MikeJ[Laptop] | :( |
| 04:52.35 | MikeJ[Laptop] | that's sad |
| 04:52.37 | dlynes | in my case, it was hanging my pri every day or two |
| 04:52.42 | Jaxxan | i have a problem with my PRI on 1.0.9 |
| 04:52.46 | dlynes | so that everyone would get busy signals when they tried calling in |
| 04:52.51 | Jaxxan | ya'll familiar with american ido |
| 04:52.54 | Jaxxan | idol |
| 04:52.57 | MikeJ[Laptop] | heh |
| 04:52.58 | MikeJ[Laptop] | yeah |
| 04:53.03 | dlynes | i'd have to shut down asterisk and restart it to fix it |
| 04:53.18 | Jaxxan | i live in american samoa, which is a small island in the middle of the south pacific |
| 04:53.31 | Jaxxan | and we had a eukelele contest american idol style |
| 04:53.40 | Jaxxan | i setup two additional PRI's |
| 04:53.53 | Jaxxan | which were trunked together on the dms100 side |
| 04:54.16 | Jaxxan | everyone was ok on my side, but calls would not overflow to the 2nd PRI |
| 04:54.29 | Jaxxan | so i got slammed with about 10,000 calls in 2 hours using only 23 channels |
| 04:54.57 | dlynes | damn...those must've been wicked ukelele's :) |
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| 04:55.08 | Jaxxan | it was pretty good, if you wanna see the results go to http://voip.bluesky.as/voting |
| 04:55.20 | Jaxxan | was amazing for something that took a week and a half to put together |
| 04:55.58 | Jaxxan | i was expecting a coupla hundred calls per division, not a coupla thousand |
| 04:56.11 | techman97_andy | I have a question: I am connecting my softphone (soon to be regular IP phone) to *, which is behind a NAT firewall. I finally got all of the ports opened and whatnot so I have a fully functional client, however I had to specify my (client) external IP in sip.conf in order for it to connect. Having a dynamic IP is going to make that extremely difficult to manage. If I put host-dynamic, I can't register...hence don't make a |
| 04:56.44 | Strom_C | \\\\\\'''''''''''''''''' |
| 04:57.50 | Jaxxan | we had a sub-contest, the caller with the most votes would get a free phone |
| 04:58.12 | Jaxxan | what's funny, is that the person that called the most spent a $50.00 phone card for a $60.00 phone. |
| 04:58.50 | dlynes | anything to drive the economy :) |
| 04:59.00 | Jaxxan | (= |
| 05:00.00 | dlynes | so it costs money to make local calls in american samoa? |
| 05:01.19 | Jaxxan | i work for a wireless communications company |
| 05:02.01 | Jaxxan | the contest was only for our subscribers |
| 05:02.57 | dlynes | ah |
| 05:03.15 | Jaxxan | the local landline communications company on the island is run by the government and isn't very... |
| 05:03.39 | Jaxxan | well let's just say they dont make it easy to do anything with. |
| 05:03.47 | Jaxxan | they wont even peer with us |
| 05:03.57 | Jaxxan | which is just... stupid |
| 05:04.33 | Shaun2222 | anybody know why when i set MACRO_RESULT=ABORT in my macro and truen to the original context why it continues on with the dial plan. |
| 05:04.47 | Shaun2222 | the docs say it hangs up both "legs" of the call |
| 05:05.05 | mitcheloc | which island? |
| 05:07.42 | techman97_andy | anyone know a reason why when registering a SIP client that's not on the same IP subnet as the * server, that I would get an unauthorized message in the sip debug log? |
| 05:08.23 | techman97_andy | if I take the same computer and move it to the same subnet and change the SIP proxy to the internal IP address - I register correctly. |
| 05:14.08 | *** join/#asterisk s0lid (n=usahnem@210.213.243.141) |
| 05:15.26 | Shaun2222 | techman97_andy: is one or both the subnets private? |
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| 05:32.14 | techman97_andy | I'm back |
| 05:32.19 | techman97_andy | sorry about the delay there |
| 05:33.35 | techman97_andy | the * server is on a 10.1.0.x/24 subnet, my client is on a 192.168.1.x/24 subnet. I can VPN to the 10.1.0.x/24 subnet and register completely fine. if I attempt to connect through the Internet (all ports are correctly configured) - that's where I can't register at all. |
| 05:37.38 | Shaun2222 | i had a simular problem.. |
| 05:37.51 | techman97_andy | really? how did you work with it? |
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| 05:38.33 | techman97_andy | I found out that if I specify the external IP of my client (192 network) in sip.conf, then I can register. However...with dynamic IP addresses of the clients...I can't rely on that solution |
| 05:38.35 | techman97_andy | =( |
| 05:38.42 | Shaun2222 | i'm assuming the 10.x.x.x network and the 192.x.x.x network doesnt have the same router between them so they cant talk? |
| 05:39.16 | techman97_andy | correct - two completely different ISPs and locations |
| 05:39.55 | Shaun2222 | ok... then first on your asterisk server you have to set nat=yes for that phones sip... |
| 05:40.03 | techman97_andy | done that. |
| 05:40.15 | Strom_C | techman97_andy, SIP does not play well with NAT in general, and you're fucked if there's NAT on both ends. |
| 05:40.17 | Shaun2222 | your phone also needs that option |
| 05:40.30 | techman97_andy | I have it in the [default] section as well as in the specific phone's SIP entry |
| 05:40.54 | Strom_C | techman97_andy, you should consider using IAX for the firewall and NAT traversal and then have an asterisk box on each end as a SIP proxy |
| 05:41.08 | techman97_andy | I'm trying to decide if I need to shut off services, lock down the * box, and slap it direct on the internet for this to work the way I want...=S |
| 05:41.19 | Strom_C | techman97_andy, you should consider using IAX for the firewall and NAT traversal and then have an asterisk box on each end as a SIP proxy |
| 05:41.26 | Strom_C | techman97_andy, SIP does not play well with NAT in general, and you're fucked if there's NAT on both ends. |
| 05:41.34 | Strom_C | I can repeat myself indefinitely, you know |
| 05:41.39 | techman97_andy | hehehehe |
| 05:41.41 | techman97_andy | I can see that! |
| 05:42.12 | Shaun2222 | Strom_C: what about dmz to the * |
| 05:42.17 | Shaun2222 | would that correct the problme? |
| 05:42.18 | techman97_andy | here's my deal. My end game is to have one Asterisk server in our main HQ...and have our 7 employees connect via softphones and IP phones through the Internet to it. |
| 05:42.45 | techman97_andy | however I need to config the logical location of the Asterisk box - that's what I have to do |
| 05:42.52 | Shaun2222 | techman97_andy: why cant you give the * server a public internet address? |
| 05:43.12 | techman97_andy | I have an available address, but I'm always nervous about putting a server direct on the net. |
| 05:43.14 | Strom_C | yeah, and firewall off anything that isnt SIP going to that address |
| 05:43.28 | Strom_C | port 5060 and then 10000-20000 |
| 05:43.33 | Strom_C | or, if you're skittish |
| 05:43.47 | Strom_C | put a SIP proxy on the outside and then have it talk IAX back to your switch |
| 05:43.55 | Strom_C | that way you only need to open up 4569 |
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| 05:45.36 | techman97_andy | I'm using a PIX 540 or something like that (older model - can't remember the exact model #) and am currently doing static NAT mappings of 5060 and 10000-20000....it works if I specify the client's IP in sip.conf - then I can receive calls at the client. (if I leave it host=dynamic, I can make calls, but cannot receive) |
| 05:46.00 | techman97_andy | wouldn't plopping * on the DMZ and firewalling everything else off be the same thing as what I'm doing now in essence? |
| 05:46.30 | Strom_C | techman97_andy, the general wisdom with SIP is that if you're going to use NAT, don't use SIP. |
| 05:46.36 | Strom_C | it's too problematic with NAT. |
| 05:47.01 | Shaun2222 | techman97_andy: i'm no expect but i had a simular problem, it was before my phone that was on nat was setting register to 300 when the * server was forcing 60 |
| 05:47.15 | Shaun2222 | so if i made a call out, it would work and then i could call the phone rigth after |
| 05:47.24 | Jaxxan | there anything wrong with just grabbing everything from trunk ? |
| 05:47.27 | Shaun2222 | but after a while (60 seconds probably) it would disapear.. |
| 05:47.39 | techman97_andy | yeah, we're having similar probs...=( |
| 05:47.49 | Shaun2222 | techman97_andy: what type of phone? |
| 05:47.57 | Shaun2222 | techman97_andy: make sure the register time isnt set higher than 60 |
| 05:50.14 | techman97_andy | sorry - I'm back |
| 05:50.35 | techman97_andy | we're going to be using the mid-class Cisco IP phones in about 2 weeks, but we're on XLite softphone for now. |
| 05:51.04 | Shaun2222 | look for the register time... |
| 05:51.20 | techman97_andy | lemme check |
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| 06:04.49 | Shaun2222 | can i have read catch a * |
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| 06:39.41 | Shaun2222 | is their a way to leave sip/iax open for anonymous connections and have the system automatically assign a extension? |
| 06:40.29 | Shaun2222 | i'm thinking i could provide a address for customers to connect to (expecially international) so that they could jsut get right into our phone system's menu as if they called in... |
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| 06:44.18 | VoIPMasta | shaun222: not that I'm aware of, but you can always allow "guest" connections |
| 06:44.34 | VoIPMasta | Shaun2222: it won't assing them an extension, but will allow them to call your extension |
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| 06:47.38 | [av]bani | ... |
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| 06:49.48 | achandra | quick question about using asterisk behind firewall configs versus just having dedicated routing between two points? What is recommended for an enterprise setup? |
| 06:49.48 | Shaun2222 | VoIPMasta: that works.. |
| 06:49.54 | Shaun2222 | VoIPMasta no need for me to call them really :) |
| 06:50.16 | VoIPMasta | Shaun2222: then just leave the "guest" user open (as it's in the default .conf files) |
| 06:50.40 | VoIPMasta | Shaun2222: and add your extension in the "default" context in your extensions.conf |
| 06:50.45 | coppice | [av]bani: it looks like lenovo might not be abandoning all that is thinkpad after all. although they have launched some nasty looking machines withe lenovo thinkpad on them, there are also new machines saying IBM Thinkpad, which look every bit the traditional thinkpad |
| 06:51.22 | VoIPMasta | achandra: dedicated routing |
| 06:51.33 | VoIPMasta | achandra: even a SSL enabled VPN will do it better :) |
| 06:51.46 | Strom_C | coppice, the "Lenovo" machines aren't called "ThinkPad" |
| 06:51.59 | Strom_C | the low-end ones are just marked "Lenovo" |
| 06:51.59 | coppice | yes they are. i've seen some |
| 06:52.51 | achandra | VoIPMasta: okay the ISP has been "willing" to do this and through routing its a "poor man's firewall" of sorts...what is cool is that firewall rools and such dont have to be dealt with including oddities with RTP packets, etc. |
| 06:53.24 | achandra | Lenovo makes stuff for IBM...no? |
| 06:54.19 | coppice | ism's desktop and thinkpad business is now a division of lenovo, and IBM still owns some share of that |
| 06:54.23 | achandra | rools=rules...damn its late that was pretty bad... |
| 06:54.52 | achandra | so a lenovo should be a good choice for a laptop... |
| 06:55.07 | VoIPMasta | achandra: dedicated routing will always give you better results speed-wise than a regular firewall |
| 06:55.24 | VoIPMasta | achandra: however it also depends on your ISPs policies |
| 06:55.58 | achandra | VoIPMasta: The difficulty will arise in deaing with replicating such an environment in dev or qa area. |
| 06:56.24 | coppice | achandra: depends if all the japanese designers flee, and lenovo just put the thinkpad name on any old junk |
| 06:56.40 | achandra | VoIPMasta: meaning running such load testing Apps as SIPP to give accurate results of what the prod environment should be. |
| 06:57.30 | achandra | coppice: true true...honestly though Ive used a thinkpad at my old place of work, and I liked it a lot...believe it was a T42 |
| 06:57.52 | coppice | thinkpads are in a different league to any other notebook |
| 06:58.20 | achandra | coppice: also hated it cause it didnt have a serial port...had to buy a radio shack usb to serial deal...40 bucks...OUCH. |
| 06:58.46 | coppice | that's fine. its the machines with parallel ports which are a huge pain |
| 06:58.54 | achandra | quick other question...How have you guys dealt with two things in particular.. |
| 06:59.01 | achandra | 1) Load balancing asterisk |
| 07:00.04 | achandra | 2) Dealing with issues of signaling vs. media...specifically I want to distinctly seperate the two functions, due to flexible "experiments" I want to conduct. Is it possibe to seperate over different interfaces? |
| 07:00.54 | achandra | any thoughts y'all? |
| 07:01.23 | coppice | s/with parallel/without parallel |
| 07:02.04 | achandra | questions pertaining to load balcing first is good place to start I guess. |
| 07:04.18 | Shaun2222 | anybody know if i can run a macro after a agent/member picks up a call from the queue? |
| 07:04.23 | achandra | silence is deafning...anybody? |
| 07:04.26 | Shaun2222 | i cant seam to find a answer to this question. |
| 07:04.47 | Shaun2222 | achandra: haha, good luck, i've been asking about HA/Failover and searching and have found nothing... |
| 07:05.13 | achandra | the only thing I could find was using poor man's approch....round robin dns. |
| 07:05.53 | achandra | bloody hell...does that mean every * box needs the exact same config? and then...all the databases need to be kept in sync or just talking to one db?... |
| 07:05.58 | Shaun2222 | if you can use rrd you should be able to do whatever your trying to do with a load balancer then... |
| 07:06.25 | Shaun2222 | achandra: i would imagine they would all need to be synced up... |
| 07:06.49 | Shaun2222 | achandra: i havnt gotten into this yet, i'm just been working on getting my dialplan and what not setup and working |
| 07:07.04 | achandra | Shaun2222: so id guess.... but im unsure what tools postgreql has for such things or mysql. |
| 07:07.29 | achandra | Shaun2222: is it for a massive setup or soho? aah might work for ya? |
| 07:07.32 | achandra | or ? |
| 07:07.33 | Shaun2222 | achandra: mysql can cluster... |
| 07:07.45 | Shaun2222 | pgsql i dont have much experience with. |
| 07:08.33 | Shaun2222 | achandra: in my setup i just need redundancy between 2 datacenters so i hopfully dont have any outages :) |
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| 07:09.20 | puzzled | morning all |
| 07:09.20 | achandra | Shaun2222: interesting...okay so one is fielding calls, and if one fails, it switches to DR or ? |
| 07:09.24 | achandra | morning |
| 07:09.38 | Shaun2222 | achandra: i'm no * wiz, i just started with it 2 weeks ago, but so far it seams that keeping the * embedded DB synced would be a problem. |
| 07:10.41 | achandra | Shaun2222: I was able to get it and build a level of pretty good understand using aah...there is a good australian write up on the net called asterisk with out tears ( thats what youd google for). Very well written... |
| 07:11.24 | Shaun2222 | should be called asterisk with out the 6ft rope ;) |
| 07:11.52 | Shaun2222 | i'll check it out thanks! |
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| 07:11.57 | achandra | lol..could you describe "how" the final setup would function...you have my curiousity peaked. |
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| 07:13.18 | Shaun2222 | achandra: well the seperate dc idea of mine isnt well thought out yet... |
| 07:13.58 | Shaun2222 | achandra: one big problem i think will be the phones |
| 07:14.07 | achandra | okay... well it is very interesting...specifically, I was curious about the redundancy portion of it all |
| 07:14.12 | Shaun2222 | i dont know if they can do a HA failover type setup. |
| 07:14.31 | achandra | sip phones...you mean... |
| 07:14.54 | Shaun2222 | right, sip or iax phones... |
| 07:15.20 | achandra | well I had an idea that if they all register with a VIP...then using round robin DNS you'd be able to point to multiple * boxes...then it wouldnt matter...but the configs I guess would have to be identical on all boxes... |
| 07:15.49 | achandra | not with a VIP....my bad "to a" VIP... |
| 07:16.01 | Shaun2222 | right. |
| 07:16.17 | Shaun2222 | i would assume the phones are smart enought to use rrd? |
| 07:16.32 | achandra | youll have to explain the rrd thing a bit more... |
| 07:16.41 | Shaun2222 | rrd = round robin dns |
| 07:16.53 | achandra | he he ...mor acronyms...okay. :) |
| 07:17.16 | achandra | i was an ID10T on that one. |
| 07:17.42 | Shaun2222 | np, cant know all of them |
| 07:18.02 | achandra | and there is a tool right? rrd tool or whatever? |
| 07:18.14 | Shaun2222 | ya, thats db type tool :) |
| 07:18.21 | achandra | okay |
| 07:18.42 | achandra | hey...also do you have any idea what the srv records in particular are used for? |
| 07:18.46 | achandra | for DNS? |
| 07:20.21 | achandra | ive heard these are important parameters when configuring aah with dns |
| 07:20.51 | Shaun2222 | srv records? uhh |
| 07:21.13 | achandra | no big, I could google it...but might want to check that out too. |
| 07:21.13 | Shaun2222 | are you talking about SPF? |
| 07:22.07 | achandra | nope SRV... http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-DNS+SRV |
| 07:23.45 | Shaun2222 | actually i've never had to use SRV records before |
| 07:24.19 | achandra | http://www.lemis.com/grog/HOWTO/asterisk.html...here's another |
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| 07:25.50 | achandra | Shaun2222: I might have the possibility of testing some stuff out next week with RRD..Ill post up and see how it works... |
| 07:26.02 | Shaun2222 | i wonder what advantage using SRV records has... |
| 07:26.29 | Shaun2222 | oh i see you can weight them |
| 07:27.07 | achandra | right... |
| 07:27.44 | achandra | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=SER+load+balancing |
| 07:27.52 | achandra | this is very useful... |
| 07:28.29 | Shaun2222 | this looks more for loadbalancing sip connections out of asterisk right? |
| 07:28.40 | achandra | yeah... |
| 07:29.54 | achandra | but see Ive been seeing a lot of posts regarding the "battle" if you will with dealing with "just" signaling or "media servers", and asterisk handles both....so hence Im dealing with an issue with load balancing, proxying sip for signaling AND media type balancing...acccck. |
| 07:30.29 | achandra | or it may just be my confusion at best. |
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| 07:32.25 | Shaun2222 | achandra: you would like you know more about it than i do... (doesnt supprise me) i've only been playing with telephony for 2 weeks) |
| 07:34.34 | achandra | Shaun2222: that guide I told you about - http://members.optusnet.com.au/~bsharif/asterisk/AsteriskForDumbMe.htm |
| 07:34.40 | achandra | thats a good start... |
| 07:35.52 | Shaun2222 | thanks |
| 07:35.55 | achandra | yep |
| 07:36.20 | achandra | there is SO....much more...might also want to chekck out SER and open-SER |
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| 07:42.01 | Dream_WEaver | Anyone had issues with SayUnixTime()? |
| 07:42.06 | achandra | is zoa around? heard you might have a tutorial on load balancing asterisk that was presented at astricon 2004 |
| 07:42.11 | Dream_WEaver | In that it doesn't understand Asian timezones |
| 07:42.22 | Dream_WEaver | ie. Asia/Krasnoyarsk |
| 07:42.27 | Dream_WEaver | Should be KRAST |
| 07:42.54 | Dream_WEaver | It resolves North American TZ's just fine. |
| 07:43.12 | Shaun2222 | anybody know where i can find info about how to notify the sip phone that theirs a voicemail? |
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| 07:43.45 | Dream_WEaver | I believe if you have set up the extension for VM it will do it itself. |
| 07:43.50 | Dream_WEaver | Mine does. |
| 07:44.09 | Shaun2222 | Dream_WEaver: this phone is a cisco 7960 |
| 07:44.27 | Shaun2222 | did you have to configure your phone at all? |
| 07:44.42 | Dream_WEaver | Nope. It receives the message in the sip strea, |
| 07:44.44 | Dream_WEaver | stream |
| 07:45.33 | Shaun2222 | bahh, i think i know whats wrong |
| 07:46.45 | Shaun2222 | nope. |
| 07:46.48 | Shaun2222 | hmm |
| 07:47.07 | Dream_WEaver | It's not instantanious |
| 07:47.17 | achandra | anybody go to astricon 2004, where a tutorial was given by zoa on load balancing?..just wanted to know if there was a write up... |
| 07:47.31 | Dream_WEaver | I think it's when the phone expires its connection |
| 07:47.35 | Dream_WEaver | 3600 seconds? |
| 07:47.43 | Dream_WEaver | Not sure. |
| 07:47.56 | Dream_WEaver | Might be that Asterisk sends it as soon as it's there. |
| 07:47.58 | Shaun2222 | thats a long ass time |
| 07:48.09 | Shaun2222 | you talking about the register timeout? |
| 07:48.36 | Dream_WEaver | Yea, but I believe I'm wrong. |
| 07:48.43 | Dream_WEaver | I believe Asterisk sends it. |
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| 07:49.12 | Shaun2222 | asterisk has a default register time out of 60 seconds i beleive |
| 07:49.22 | inv_Arp | any page that explains the revised dialplan syntax for 1.2.x? |
| 07:52.41 | JamesDotCom | achandra: the presentation used to be around on the net, can't seem to find it anymore, might have been taken down |
| 07:53.13 | puzzled | maybe on (iirc) edvina.net |
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| 07:59.12 | Jaxxan | revised dialplan syntax ? |
| 07:59.39 | JamesDotCom | http://astertest.com/astricon_performance.ppt |
| 07:59.46 | JamesDotCom | that the one you were after achandra? |
| 07:59.55 | Qwell | ppt? wtf? |
| 08:00.22 | JamesDotCom | powerpoint |
| 08:00.25 | coppice | ppt reads OK with open office |
| 08:00.26 | puzzled | psrt of the test suite runs on XP too :) |
| 08:00.26 | Qwell | yes, I know that |
| 08:00.27 | JamesDotCom | it was a presentation |
| 08:00.43 | coppice | in fact they tend to behave better with open office |
| 08:02.30 | coppice | there is now no available software which will read a Word 2 document properly. MS really ought to sort that out, or they will just accelerate the move to open formats |
| 08:02.44 | Qwell | word 2? damn that's odl |
| 08:02.45 | Qwell | old |
| 08:03.05 | coppice | there are millions of old documents. half the ITU specs are in word 2 |
| 08:03.23 | Qwell | neat |
| 08:04.01 | coppice | and there are lots of bits in those documents that don't get display with office XP or 2003 |
| 08:04.04 | puzzled | hasn't OO.org been patched to open word2 documents with the latest release? |
| 08:04.16 | coppice | nope |
| 08:04.51 | coppice | there is another tool (forgot the name) that can read quite a bit of word 2 documents, but not everything |
| 08:05.00 | Qwell | cat? |
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| 08:05.48 | coppice | hey, yeah, that must be it :-) |
| 08:06.13 | achandra | JamesDotCom: yes thats it...sorry for the delay.in response.. |
| 08:06.56 | achandra | anyone have luck with the redfone units for load balancing? |
| 08:10.13 | JamesDotCom | achandra: what voip protocol are you using, sip? |
| 08:11.38 | JamesDotCom | if so, you're better off utilising it properly for redundancy |
| 08:11.46 | JamesDotCom | dns srv and a couple of sip proxies |
| 08:13.23 | achandra | JamesDotCom: yes that is correct...sip |
| 08:14.11 | JamesDotCom | well then look into dns srv and a sip proxy, eg ser/openser |
| 08:14.20 | achandra | okay right now there is only one SER box which then communicates back to one asterisk box. But your saying that with SRV records, it is possible with SER to do the LB? |
| 08:14.30 | JamesDotCom | yes |
| 08:14.46 | JamesDotCom | you duplicate the configuration of your proxy on another machine |
| 08:15.00 | achandra | abother ser box that is right? |
| 08:15.10 | JamesDotCom | dns srv is configured to allow failover/load balancing/what have you with weights and priorities |
| 08:15.16 | JamesDotCom | yes |
| 08:15.40 | achandra | ahh..okay...then what about the * boxes? |
| 08:15.47 | JamesDotCom | of course you have to think about the rest of the network... |
| 08:15.53 | achandra | :) |
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| 08:16.02 | JamesDotCom | you will need duplicate asterisk servers too if they're your call gateways |
| 08:16.20 | JamesDotCom | and you can make ser handle the failover of that |
| 08:16.24 | achandra | in essence they are primarily used to handle the "media" portion |
| 08:16.48 | achandra | ser is being used to proxy the incoming calls..which is pretty much it.. |
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| 08:17.18 | JamesDotCom | forget about it in terms of boxes, i mean ser and asterisk can be on the same one |
| 08:17.25 | JamesDotCom | you just need at least 2 of each service |
| 08:17.34 | JamesDotCom | if it cant contact one, it tried the other |
| 08:17.41 | JamesDotCom | as long is something is able to respond |
| 08:18.35 | achandra | I did see some info on this on voipinfo.org about putting both on the same hardware then using different ports to deal with it.. |
| 08:18.45 | achandra | is that kind of what you are refering to? |
| 08:18.50 | JamesDotCom | yup, that can be done too |
| 08:18.57 | JamesDotCom | it depends on your equipment/configuration/budget |
| 08:20.10 | achandra | JamesDotCom: Well the idea is redundancy but being able to handle a pretty large call volume..Could you explain a bit more..or if its going to cost me, let me know..and I can arrange a level of service for that.. |
| 08:20.47 | achandra | JamesDotCom: basically I need to be able to set this up rather quickly.. |
| 08:22.16 | achandra | JamesDotCom: still there? |
| 08:22.24 | JamesDotCom | sorry man, i'm too busy to take on any more work, but i think the best place for you to look would be your SER configuration, you want it to branch and attempt to contact each of your call gateways whether it's a matter of load or redundancy, as long as one can reply everything can be pretty scalable |
| 08:23.08 | JamesDotCom | proxies can do almost anything :P |
| 08:23.52 | achandra | okay...will do...I just need enough clues to get it worked out...But you are basically saying that through ser and * on the same box, a method can be used using SRV records to get it to work with LB and redundancy. |
| 08:23.55 | achandra | Nice. |
| 08:24.02 | achandra | if that is correct. |
| 08:24.05 | achandra | ... |
| 08:25.11 | achandra | so Ill have to research on SER to work this out right? pardon the level of redundant question...just trying to get it straight. |
| 08:25.20 | JamesDotCom | haha, no problem |
| 08:25.30 | JamesDotCom | first thing you should focus on is SER |
| 08:25.57 | JamesDotCom | get the routing working correctly so that it attempts to contact other call gateways if one fails to respond |
| 08:26.25 | JamesDotCom | whether you attempt to contact the gateways in serial or parallel, it's up to you |
| 08:26.34 | JamesDotCom | once you have proxy -> gateway redundancy |
| 08:27.00 | JamesDotCom | then you want to duplicate the SER configuration onto another physical machine/different network/whatever level of redundancy you require |
| 08:27.09 | achandra | JamesDotCom: all SER does in the environment in question is receive calls from PSTN and routes to aah...and then back to pstn... thats pretty much it. |
| 08:27.39 | achandra | is that what you mean by gateways?...this config is used pretty much to collect call records and route calls.... |
| 08:27.43 | JamesDotCom | then you use DNS SRV so that clients can figure out what proxy to contact and which priority |
| 08:28.03 | JamesDotCom | yeah, gateways/whatever handles the media |
| 08:28.29 | achandra | proxy in this case being what ever ser box correct...ie ser1 or ser2 or whatever |
| 08:28.30 | JamesDotCom | and with that you knock over redundancy, load balancing, and to a degree, scalability in one go |
| 08:28.35 | JamesDotCom | yep |
| 08:28.56 | achandra | nice nice... |
| 08:29.21 | achandra | so in effect also eliminating the need in effect to have ser and * on two seperate boxes.. |
| 08:30.02 | JamesDotCom | well yeah, as i said, depends on how you want it, but you can just as easily have SER+Asterisk on one physical machine x 2 |
| 08:30.13 | JamesDotCom | or on 4 servers |
| 08:30.15 | JamesDotCom | or on 50 servers |
| 08:31.01 | achandra | so like SER+asterisk - machine 1 & SER+asterisk-machine2 ..... |
| 08:31.08 | JamesDotCom | yep |
| 08:31.55 | achandra | and all of the inter communication that was happening between a seperate ser box and an * is handled internally. |
| 08:32.18 | achandra | Also the config for SER proxy with DNS and SRV records builds the redundancy. |
| 08:32.36 | achandra | now what about the configs (ie mysql records for *?) |
| 08:32.58 | achandra | everything in this case is a "mirror" in terms of configs etc. |
| 08:33.09 | achandra | what keeps things in sync?? |
| 08:33.25 | achandra | i suppose an additional component for mysql or? |
| 08:33.53 | JamesDotCom | sounds like you understand it... |
| 08:34.00 | JamesDotCom | as for the other configs |
| 08:34.17 | JamesDotCom | i imagine both logging to the same cdr table should be fine |
| 08:34.22 | JamesDotCom | but i cant vouch for that |
| 08:34.28 | achandra | yes.. |
| 08:34.32 | JamesDotCom | i like sip, i don't particularly like asterisk :P |
| 08:35.20 | achandra | that will work...in fact that is preferable....specifically beacuse the same CDR record will be picked by a set of DBA's to another server :) |
| 08:35.51 | achandra | so it possible to havbe the * portion speak to hmmm....one mysql database? |
| 08:36.05 | achandra | then using something like open ha to deal with mysql redundancy? |
| 08:36.18 | JamesDotCom | not sure about that one dude |
| 08:36.38 | achandra | damn...got all exicted...and then cock blocked :P |
| 08:36.40 | achandra | lol |
| 08:36.55 | achandra | my wife does the same damn thing. |
| 08:37.01 | achandra | ha ha |
| 08:37.24 | JamesDotCom | haha, i don't even use mysql, so i really dont know about the asterisk driver for it, or mysql's redundancy features, etc |
| 08:37.32 | tsume | use postgres ;) |
| 08:37.38 | JamesDotCom | amen |
| 08:37.51 | tsume | mysql is too viral |
| 08:37.53 | achandra | okay... is postgres just that much more robust ? |
| 08:37.59 | tsume | achandra: yes |
| 08:38.11 | JamesDotCom | in my opinion, definitely... |
| 08:38.16 | tsume | and postgres actually complies with something called standards |
| 08:38.34 | achandra | you just answered my question... |
| 08:38.58 | JamesDotCom | until recently i always thought of mysql as a glorified multi-dimensional array, it's actually gotten some actual features recently |
| 08:39.01 | achandra | its funny because * would have you believe the setup is "default" with mysql...weird. |
| 08:39.24 | JamesDotCom | it likely is, it's probably more common than postgresql |
| 08:39.26 | achandra | like the stored procedures...etc.. |
| 08:39.36 | achandra | or capacity to ... handle them.... |
| 08:40.10 | achandra | okay... then compiling with postgresql is the way to go... |
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| 08:40.59 | achandra | curious...based on your "knowledge base"...for ser/asterisk setup do you have any good links to walk me through from basic to advanced how to's etc? |
| 08:41.14 | JamesDotCom | umm |
| 08:41.29 | achandra | specifically im interested in the topic we were just discussing.. |
| 08:41.46 | w32 | where does asterisk keep all its log files ? |
| 08:41.51 | JamesDotCom | use google.... "blah blah blah site:mail.iptel.org" is very good for ser |
| 08:42.18 | JamesDotCom | and as for asterisk... well i stopped really learning about asterisk about 2 years ago, so i dont really keep up to date with the best place for docs these days |
| 08:42.32 | JamesDotCom | w32: try /var/log/asterisk/ ? |
| 08:43.08 | achandra | JamesDotCom: will do...Unlike some...Im not afraid to search...but human contact like this is a wealth of info..much appreciated thus far...thank you. |
| 08:43.22 | JamesDotCom | no worries ;D |
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| 08:43.44 | achandra | you fired off the right brain cells to get me thinking about it... |
| 08:44.35 | JamesDotCom | glad to be a help |
| 08:44.39 | StaticSyphon | Has anyone had any problems using IPkall to connect to their pbx from a landline(grandstream?)? |
| 08:45.02 | JamesDotCom | also do yourself a favour and make sure you read up RFC 3261, it explains a lot about sip |
| 08:45.21 | Shaun2222 | Anybody know if i can run a macro for the agent/member that picked up a queue? |
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| 08:46.36 | StaticSyphon | I get a delay then a busy signal when I dial the ipkall number from my house phone any ideas why this is? |
| 08:48.24 | StaticSyphon | how about and docs to read? |
| 08:49.49 | achandra | JamesDotCom: is the best tool to test such things through SIPP tool? |
| 08:51.08 | JamesDotCom | yep, sipp is good, i also use a lot of xlog statements in my ser scripts and turn the debug level up to watch what's going on |
| 08:52.06 | achandra | JamesDotCom:any other good sip tools for debugging and load balancing info?..ethereal..etc? |
| 08:53.06 | achandra | JamesDotCom: have you got the load balanced scenario working?...just curious... |
| 08:53.29 | JamesDotCom | it's all personal preference really, i can't think of anything essential, but i use all the standard network tools like ethereal, most sip UA's support logging to syslog and whatnot, i get a few terminals up on screen and watch the call flow |
| 08:53.55 | achandra | cool. |
| 08:54.11 | JamesDotCom | sure have, i've setup 2 voip providers in australia doing what i've described |
| 08:54.26 | JamesDotCom | and a few extra sip proxies, redirect servers, etc |
| 08:54.53 | Shaun2222 | Anybody know why when i set MACRO_RESULT=ABORT that it didnt terminate both sides of the connection? |
| 08:55.04 | achandra | JamesDotCom: anyway Id be able to query you via email besides on here? |
| 08:56.54 | JamesDotCom | achandra: my client is on this network 24/7, just drop me a message and i'll try reply asap |
| 08:57.22 | achandra | cool...just noticed that your in Guinea somewhere? ...is that right? cool.... |
| 08:57.42 | JamesDotCom | hehe, nah, i irc from a shell provider, i'm in melbourne, australia |
| 08:58.13 | achandra | lol...thats pretty damn funny...I was like where the hell is Sao Tome? |
| 08:58.15 | achandra | lol |
| 08:58.19 | StaticSyphon | JamesDotCom, do you think you have a sec to help me or answer a few questins? |
| 08:58.27 | StaticSyphon | *questions |
| 08:58.43 | achandra | cool |
| 08:58.59 | StaticSyphon | ...or achandra :P |
| 08:59.03 | JamesDotCom | StaticSyphon: ask the question |
| 09:00.42 | StaticSyphon | I use IPkall and I think it is putting my call though from my home pstn line because I get a pause then a busy signal, but when change the general context, the pause goes away and the call goes straight to a busy signal. My question is how do I get the call to run straight to the menu, and now go to a busy signal |
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| 09:01.38 | StaticSyphon | *now == then |
| 09:01.47 | Guest^DJ | hi guys, when i reboot my box, light on TE410P failed to light either red or green |
| 09:01.54 | Guest^DJ | and i cant call into my box |
| 09:01.55 | StaticSyphon | sorry, if my grammer is shotty, its about 2:00 AM here |
| 09:01.56 | Guest^DJ | pls help |
| 09:02.04 | Strom_M | Guest^DJ, you need to modprobe zapte |
| 09:02.05 | Strom_M | er |
| 09:02.07 | Strom_M | zaptel |
| 09:02.13 | Strom_M | then modprobe wct4xxp |
| 09:02.17 | Strom_M | then start asterisk |
| 09:02.21 | JamesDotCom | StaticSyphon: sorry man, too much for me to comprehend right now ;( |
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| 09:02.32 | StaticSyphon | JamesDotCom :P thanks anyways |
| 09:02.34 | JamesDotCom | i'm kinda.. under the influence.. heh |
| 09:02.42 | StaticSyphon | any good docs I can read through? |
| 09:02.45 | StaticSyphon | lol, good times |
| 09:02.52 | JamesDotCom | voip-info.org |
| 09:03.02 | StaticSyphon | ugh, been reading for... few hours now :P |
| 09:03.04 | StaticSyphon | ty |
| 09:03.09 | JamesDotCom | haha |
| 09:03.22 | Guest^DJ | Strom_M: i did not plug in any E1 yet and zttool indicates OK |
| 09:03.28 | StaticSyphon | good doc, but.. just not doing it for me :P |
| 09:03.34 | JamesDotCom | what i also always suggest is "blah blah blah site:mailinglistarchive.com" |
| 09:03.42 | JamesDotCom | you know, whatever mailing list is suitable |
| 09:03.54 | StaticSyphon | lol |
| 09:10.06 | StaticSyphon | Strom_C, any ideas on how I can tell what is wrong with the connection from my pstn line to my Asterisk PBX? |
| 09:11.52 | Guest^DJ | hi guys, when i reboot my box, light on TE410P failed to light either red or green |
| 09:11.55 | Guest^DJ | and i cant call into my box |
| 09:12.06 | Strom_M | Guest^DJ, I JUST TOLD YOU THE ANSWER |
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| 09:12.19 | Guest^DJ | i know, i did a modprobe and nothing happen |
| 09:12.28 | Strom_M | lsmod | grep zaptel |
| 09:12.32 | StaticSyphon | lol |
| 09:12.34 | Strom_M | tell me what you get |
| 09:13.09 | Guest^DJ | Strom_M: zaptel 182624 64 [wcusb wct4xxp] |
| 09:13.19 | Strom_M | why do you have wcusb loaded? |
| 09:13.39 | Guest^DJ | i have no idea, it was in that format years ago |
| 09:13.59 | Guest^DJ | was running fine |
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| 09:16.32 | [av]bani | http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/generic/810c/ |
| 09:17.37 | Guest^DJ | Strom_M: can u please help me unload wcusb if is not needed? |
| 09:17.47 | Strom_M | rmmod wcusb |
| 09:18.14 | Strom_M | ok its time for sleep |
| 09:31.52 | StaticSyphon | Anyone know if you need to configure Asterisk specially if you connect to it from a pstn line via ipkall? |
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| 09:32.25 | PakiPenguin | StaticSyphon, no you dont need any special configuration |
| 09:32.27 | PakiPenguin | with ipkall |
| 09:32.29 | StaticSyphon | ah |
| 09:32.47 | StaticSyphon | well, Asterisk has gotta be handling the call strangly then... |
| 09:32.52 | Guest^DJ | can anyone please help me to bring up TE410P please |
| 09:33.11 | StaticSyphon | I read that IPkall sends the fwd number you entered on IPkall.com as the ext |
| 09:33.39 | StaticSyphon | so in your extenstion.conf you would have to have ext,1,arg instead of 's' |
| 09:33.42 | StaticSyphon | is that correct? |
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| 09:37.26 | StaticSyphon | PakiPenguin: ^^ |
| 09:38.03 | PakiPenguin | ? |
| 09:38.19 | PakiPenguin | yup |
| 09:40.27 | StaticSyphon | so if I have exten => ext,1,Goto(demo,s,1) that... should work? |
| 09:42.33 | PakiPenguin | yup |
| 09:42.40 | StaticSyphon | and exten => ext,1,Dial(SIP/phone) should connect my pstn phone to my SIP softphone right...? |
| 09:42.49 | PakiPenguin | yup |
| 09:42.54 | StaticSyphon | cuz somewhere along the way the connectino erros out |
| 09:42.57 | StaticSyphon | *connection |
| 09:43.02 | StaticSyphon | *errors |
| 09:43.05 | PakiPenguin | debug it |
| 09:43.08 | StaticSyphon | lmao |
| 09:43.13 | StaticSyphon | thats what I've been doing |
| 09:43.19 | PakiPenguin | i am actually not paying much attention |
| 09:43.21 | PakiPenguin | lol |
| 09:43.25 | StaticSyphon | :) |
| 09:43.26 | StaticSyphon | lol |
| 09:43.29 | PakiPenguin | StaticSyphon, do u get the call on ur server? |
| 09:43.36 | PakiPenguin | attempt even on the cli? |
| 09:43.52 | StaticSyphon | I believe so, becuase if I change the context there is no pause before the busy signal |
| 09:44.07 | StaticSyphon | but when I have a good context it gives me a pause then a busy signal |
| 09:44.17 | StaticSyphon | but how would I attemps on the cli? |
| 09:44.24 | StaticSyphon | would it show a msg? |
| 09:44.28 | PakiPenguin | yeah |
| 09:44.28 | StaticSyphon | like incoming or something? |
| 09:44.31 | StaticSyphon | omg |
| 09:44.32 | PakiPenguin | extecuting blah blah |
| 09:44.47 | StaticSyphon | like each time I call my PBX? |
| 09:44.51 | StaticSyphon | hahahah |
| 09:44.53 | StaticSyphon | wow that sucks |
| 09:45.04 | PakiPenguin | why would it suck? |
| 09:45.12 | StaticSyphon | then all this time it probably hasn't even made it past my firewall |
| 09:45.13 | StaticSyphon | XD |
| 09:45.33 | PakiPenguin | lol |
| 09:45.35 | PakiPenguin | try sip debug |
| 09:45.39 | StaticSyphon | kk |
| 09:45.42 | PakiPenguin | see if you see any sip attemtp |
| 09:46.19 | StaticSyphon | whoa |
| 09:46.22 | StaticSyphon | I got something |
| 09:46.45 | StaticSyphon | Sip read from 192.168.1.48:5060: |
| 09:46.46 | StaticSyphon | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:47.00 | StaticSyphon | oh |
| 09:47.02 | StaticSyphon | nvm |
| 09:47.09 | StaticSyphon | thats just my softphone doing something |
| 09:47.23 | StaticSyphon | "Nat keepalive" |
| 09:47.23 | StaticSyphon | ? |
| 09:47.33 | StaticSyphon | yeah, I called my PBX and nothing happened |
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| 09:49.16 | StaticSyphon | hmm, should I specify a host for my peer user in sip.conf for ipkall? |
| 09:52.17 | Guest^DJ | can anyone please help me to bring up TE410P please |
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| 10:03.48 | Shaun2222 | anybody know why when i try to park a call why it parks me and not the call? |
| 10:05.49 | Shaun2222 | n/m i'm a idiot |
| 10:06.12 | Guest^DJ | RH9.0 show that my TE410P is unknown device, anyone know what happen ? |
| 10:07.48 | Shaun2222 | why are you using rh9? |
| 10:08.02 | Shaun2222 | that OS EOL'd forever ago |
| 10:08.11 | Guest^DJ | is a very old server |
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| 10:11.56 | starlein | anybody can tell me how to get colors on the cli? :) |
| 10:12.07 | starlein | if i run with asterisk -gcv they appear |
| 10:12.31 | starlein | but via init.d i dont get them, and it's helpful for debugging |
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| 10:18.36 | Cheetah | hey folks :D |
| 10:19.06 | Cheetah | which voip hardphone would you suggest for a 25-man company? |
| 10:19.25 | Cheetah | we are switching to VOIP and still looking for reasonable priced, quality phones |
| 10:19.26 | Cheetah | any suggestions? |
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| 10:25.24 | achandra | id have to guess that alot of people have had luck with the sipura phones 3000? |
| 10:25.42 | achandra | 3000 series that is... |
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| 10:33.20 | StaticSyphon | wb PakiPenguin |
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| 10:54.20 | PakiPenguin_ | thanks StaticSyphon |
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| 10:54.33 | PakiPenguin_ | i can look into your problem when i get free from this job i am doing :) |
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| 10:56.10 | xin` | hi |
| 10:57.23 | Cheetah | hmm |
| 10:59.08 | Cheetah | anyone can suggest a good VOIP hard phone for business use? |
| 10:59.38 | PakiPenguin_ | a very good phone would be the cisco |
| 10:59.49 | PakiPenguin_ | but that would be very costly |
| 10:59.54 | PakiPenguin_ | you could try looking into snoms |
| 11:00.28 | Cheetah | snoms |
| 11:00.31 | Cheetah | okay :D |
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| 11:02.44 | redcap1 | I have some problems with my ISDN card. |
| 11:03.14 | redcap1 | When it's connected none of mine isdn equipement is failing to connect |
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| 11:03.32 | redcap1 | could it be the zaptel driver ? |
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| 11:04.12 | superhuman | hey all! |
| 11:04.25 | tetsuzan | hain |
| 11:07.40 | Jaxxan | hey ya'll |
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| 11:18.32 | cced | who are familiar with libpri ? isdn pri protocol stack? |
| 11:19.15 | redcap1 | cced: maybe a little |
| 11:21.55 | cced | o : thanks . I have read this code for several months |
| 11:21.59 | Jaxxan | so i just installed libpri-trunk and zaptel-trunk and now my modules wont load |
| 11:22.05 | Jaxxan | i'm getting these errors |
| 11:22.16 | Jaxxan | tor2: disagrees about version of symbol zt_alarm_notify |
| 11:22.22 | Jaxxan | but a bunch of them |
| 11:23.58 | cced | I focus on SIP signalling <-> isdn pri signalling |
| 11:24.50 | Jaxxan | i do sip to dms100 pri |
| 11:25.00 | Jaxxan | i got issues right now though |
| 11:25.04 | Jaxxan | chat with ya in a bit |
| 11:25.34 | cced | Jaxxan: tor2 error? |
| 11:25.41 | cced | do you use this mod? |
| 11:25.47 | Jaxxan | yeah tor2 error |
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| 11:41.34 | Jaxxan | ok |
| 11:41.53 | Jaxxan | got my modules to load. now gotta get asterisk to startup |
| 11:46.01 | Cheetah | anyone has a SNOM 360? |
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| 11:58.39 | Jaxxan | yay it's up again |
| 11:58.45 | Jaxxan | that wasn't tooo bad |
| 11:59.00 | Jaxxan | had to do a little manual cleanup to remove some really old modules |
| 11:59.09 | Jaxxan | pri's up |
| 11:59.10 | Jaxxan | woot |
| 11:59.29 | hgaillac | hello |
| 11:59.44 | Jaxxan | now to fix the dialplan stuff that changed between 1.0.9 and 1.2.6 |
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| 12:02.54 | hatamen | hi,all |
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| 12:08.29 | SparFux | Has anybody successfully installed the zaphfc module version 1.2.5 into kernel 2.6.16? |
| 12:11.35 | Sebb | 1.2.5? what bristuff-version is that? |
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| 12:14.19 | Jaxxan | what's extensions.ael for? that's new for me |
| 12:15.03 | RaYmAn-Bx | Jaxxan: same as extensions.conf, just a different (more programming language like) syntax |
| 12:15.09 | hgaillac | can you try to dial sip:info@nxs.yi.org |
| 12:16.18 | SparFux | sebb: yes, 1.2.5 |
| 12:16.39 | Jaxxan | ummm |
| 12:16.40 | Sebb | are we talking about junghanns bristuff..? |
| 12:16.49 | Jaxxan | god i'm so used to the original way |
| 12:17.06 | Jaxxan | but |
| 12:17.06 | Jaxxan | you can use loops in this huh |
| 12:17.19 | RaYmAn-Bx | AEL seems much nicer, but I haven't gotten around to convert my dialplan to use it yet |
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| 12:17.32 | Jaxxan | can you use IF statements ? |
| 12:18.28 | RaYmAn-Bx | No idea. I'm sure the wiki can help you |
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| 12:20.24 | littleball | hello, how to limit the calling time for a specific call? |
| 12:20.50 | Sebb | with the second parameter of the dial command..? |
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| 12:33.02 | SparFu1 | Sebb: Yes, junghanns bristuff. |
| 12:33.32 | SparFu1 | Sebb: I tried mISDN with chan-capi too, but it doesn't seem to support capi! chan-capi says, no capi found. |
| 12:33.45 | Sebb | there is no bristuff-1.2.5.. never mind.. latest bristuff works fine on 2.4.16 |
| 12:33.58 | SparFu1 | Sebb: I use 2.6.16 |
| 12:34.07 | Sebb | err.. i mean 2.6.16 ;) |
| 12:34.10 | SparFu1 | k. |
| 12:34.39 | Sebb | but take a look at http://83.137.99.169/~junghanns.net/downloads/ , the lastest is bristuff-0.3.0-PRE-1l.tar.gz, you want to use 1k.. |
| 12:34.43 | cced | redcap1 is here? |
| 12:34.51 | cced | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:35.00 | SparFu1 | Sebb: ok, it's bristuff 0.2.0-RC8q |
| 12:35.52 | SparFu1 | Sebb, you mean I should try experimental? |
| 12:35.53 | SparFu1 | k |
| 12:36.15 | Sebb | SparFu1: yes, it works without problems here, as long as you have just one hfc-card.. and has ... |
| 12:36.44 | SparFu1 | Sebb: I have. |
| 12:37.22 | cced | I focus on SIP signalling <-> isdn pri signalling |
| 12:39.23 | SparFu1 | Sebb: do I have to use experitmental zaptel.ko then, too? |
| 12:41.21 | SparFu1 | Well, I need the zaptel module, I think. |
| 12:42.29 | Sebb | bristuff loads zaptel, patches it, and you have to use that version then |
| 12:43.03 | SparFu1 | Sebb: same version of bristuff and zaptel? |
| 12:43.28 | SparFu1 | I have 1.2.5, perhaps I can use it? |
| 12:43.41 | Sebb | bristuff-0.3.0-PRE-1k uses zaptel-1.2.3 |
| 12:43.58 | SparFu1 | ah, ok. |
| 12:44.00 | Sebb | and patches it for use with bristuff/zaphfc |
| 12:45.44 | SparFu1 | I have the patched zaptel version for bristuff 0.2.0-RC8q |
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| 12:45.47 | eric_s | hi |
| 12:45.57 | SparFu1 | and this zaptel version is 1.2.5. think it wont work. :-( |
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| 12:56.28 | SparFux | damn system freezes! |
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| 13:03.21 | tzafrir | that bristuff is basically for zaptel 1.2.3, but the bristuff stuff seems to build nicely with 1.2.5 (for Zaptel, that is) |
| 13:04.04 | SparFux | tzafir: it does. anyway, my system freezes once the zaphfc driver is installed. I just get the messages on the console that the card is detected and it freezes. |
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| 13:07.32 | cced | I focus on SIP signalling <-> isdn pri signalling exchange |
| 13:10.20 | SparFux | cced: sounds interesting... |
| 13:11.08 | cced | zaphfc driver?which card? |
| 13:11.15 | SparFux | Is there a trick to load the modules? I just do modpobe zaptel and modprobe zaphfc. |
| 13:11.24 | ManxPower | mornings. evil. hate. mornings. |
| 13:11.58 | cced | here is night. |
| 13:12.03 | ManxPower | SparFux, try the card in a different slot |
| 13:12.14 | cced | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:12.35 | SparFux | Manx: hm... might be a good idea. And there are two stupid jumpers on it which I don't know what they do. |
| 13:12.43 | SparFux | Ill try a different slot... |
| 13:12.44 | cced | different slot,different irq? |
| 13:13.19 | SparFux | Ill try and come back :-) |
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| 13:15.55 | PoWeRKiLL | who use chan_local ? I think I have some bug with it ? |
| 13:16.30 | SparFux | RE! Damn, first time I umounted the filesystems and now it works and the server didn't crash. I've got the zaphfc installed. As long as I tried zaptel 1.2.5 with bristuff of different versions nothing worked, but 1.2.3 seems to work. |
| 13:16.42 | Jaxxan | what ya need to know cced ? |
| 13:17.14 | Jaxxan | i use SIP < -pri- > DMS100 |
| 13:17.27 | Jaxxan | more or less the same thing |
| 13:18.26 | SparFux | Ok, asterisk got the card. :-) |
| 13:18.27 | cced | yes. I want to know detail implementant about SIP <->ISDN PRI . |
| 13:18.49 | Jaxxan | how to set it up ? |
| 13:19.14 | cced | would you like to mail to me.my mailbox oncemore2000@gmail.com |
| 13:19.22 | Jaxxan | no not really |
| 13:19.39 | Jaxxan | i can help you get it working |
| 13:19.42 | cced | I want to know signalling exchange detail. |
| 13:20.03 | Jaxxan | i can help you to get it up and running, i'm not writing you a whitepaper |
| 13:20.04 | cced | yes .asterisk work ok. |
| 13:20.45 | Jaxxan | SparFux: dont use zaptel 1.2.5 |
| 13:20.49 | cced | E400p card.4E1 line.everything is ok.But I need some document or papers |
| 13:20.51 | Jaxxan | SparFux: use zaptel-trunk |
| 13:21.07 | Jaxxan | for what cced ? |
| 13:21.10 | cced | what is zaptel-trunk.?new drivers? |
| 13:21.11 | SparFux | Jaxxan: I used the zaptel-1.2.3 now which is delivered with the bristuff 0.3l |
| 13:21.40 | SparFux | cced: I don't know zaptel-trunk, but it sounds like some isolated zaphfc stuff. |
| 13:21.43 | Jaxxan | SparFux: long as it works for you (= |
| 13:22.01 | SparFux | Jaxxan: well, it works right now, but if zaptel-trunk is any better... |
| 13:22.10 | Jaxxan | you can get zaptel trunk from SVN |
| 13:22.11 | cced | i need to write some papers or whitepapers.signalling exchange . |
| 13:22.40 | Jaxxan | cced: you'll be better off trying to get some information on that using the asterisk mailing list |
| 13:23.12 | SparFux | For now I will have to rewrite my dialplan to use chan zap instead of chan capi. |
| 13:23.20 | Jaxxan | i dunno if it's any better, but i guess zaptel 1.2.5 had some problems with PRI's |
| 13:23.47 | Jaxxan | i just upgraded from zaptel 1.0.9.1 to 1.2.5 tonight |
| 13:23.56 | Jaxxan | erm... |
| 13:23.58 | Jaxxan | sorry |
| 13:24.05 | cced | Jaxxan: do you have any document about this? |
| 13:24.08 | Jaxxan | zaptel-trunk |
| 13:24.42 | Jaxxan | cced: i had to basically figure out asterisk myself since the day i started and that was pre-1.0.1 |
| 13:24.53 | Jaxxan | this channel offers great troubleshooting advice |
| 13:25.10 | Jaxxan | but documentation... seems to be a bit skimpy |
| 13:25.17 | Jaxxan | your best bet is wiki |
| 13:25.18 | SparFux | Jaxxan: which signalling should I use? |
| 13:25.19 | cced | faint .// admire |
| 13:25.22 | Jaxxan | or the mailing list |
| 13:26.19 | cced | would you like to tell me your email?my email is oncemore2000@gmail.com |
| 13:26.19 | Jaxxan | SparFux: i use PRI's mostly cause i go to a dms100 and i'm not to familiar with zaphfc |
| 13:26.30 | Jaxxan | cced: no not really |
| 13:26.55 | Jaxxan | SparFux: what hardware are you using ? |
| 13:27.36 | SparFux | ASUSTeK Computer Inc. ISDNLink P-IN100-ST-D (rev 01) |
| 13:27.47 | SparFux | Jaxxan: It uses a HFC-S chipset. |
| 13:28.04 | SparFux | I don't get what zaptel-trunk is at all. |
| 13:28.05 | tzafrir | Jaxxan, what's wrong with zaptel 1.2.5? |
| 13:28.19 | tzafrir | zaptel-trunk or zaptel-1.2 ? |
| 13:28.20 | Jaxxan | i use pri_cpe signalling for my pri |
| 13:29.02 | Jaxxan | tzafrir: dlynes was telling me earlier that zaptel 1.2.5 has some issues with PRI's |
| 13:29.19 | Jaxxan | tzafrir: said that zaptel-trunk was the way to go and to stay away from 1.2.5 |
| 13:29.37 | SparFux | I had one serious issue with zaptel 1.2.5 which disappeared with zaptel 1.2.3. It chrashed my system without any logging output! |
| 13:29.56 | Jaxxan | some other people confirmed that 1.2.5 had some issues, so i just grabbed the SVN trunk version |
| 13:30.30 | Jaxxan | i got libpri-trunk, zaptel-trunk, asterisk-1.2.6 working fine after upgrading from 1.0.9 versions |
| 13:30.46 | Jaxxan | minimal dialplan problems |
| 13:31.20 | *** join/#asterisk OliverX (n=local@port-212-202-35-181.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 13:31.38 | Jaxxan | i should probably test my tdm400 card though |
| 13:32.56 | OliverX | Hello, i have add this information: http://rafb.net/paste/results/h9A0cy46.html but no answer |
| 13:33.07 | OliverX | capi info say me, that he see the call :/ |
| 13:33.17 | OliverX | -- CONNECT_IND (PLCI=0x101,DID=100,CID=016094867088,CIP=0x10,CONTROLLER=0x1) |
| 13:33.17 | OliverX | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:33.18 | OliverX | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:33.18 | OliverX | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:33.27 | OliverX | Have anyone here an Idea? |
| 13:33.27 | SparFux | I never had to select "signalling" for chan-capi... |
| 13:33.43 | OliverX | Please read my Link ;) |
| 13:33.50 | OliverX | The Config is very easy! |
| 13:35.39 | Jaxxan | SparFux: i think you should be using national |
| 13:35.49 | ManxPower | OliverX, not many people use BRI |
| 13:35.50 | SparFux | Ill try. |
| 13:35.52 | ManxPower | ~docs |
| 13:35.54 | jbot | methinks docs is probably Documentation can be found at http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk or http://www.asteriskdocs.org or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/asterisk or http://www.asteriskguru.com, or http://www.astmasters.net/howtos.html |
| 13:35.57 | ManxPower | Did you check the Wiki? |
| 13:36.13 | OliverX | No Idea why the exten dont works? |
| 13:36.40 | ManxPower | OliverX, I do not have a BRI card and so cannot help. |
| 13:36.45 | SparFux | Jaxxan: but isn't national a switchtype while signalling has no national? |
| 13:37.01 | OliverX | Hm ahhh :( |
| 13:37.07 | OliverX | I need help with that :( |
| 13:37.07 | ManxPower | SparFux, national is a switchtype, but also a dialplan |
| 13:37.16 | Jaxxan | oops |
| 13:37.28 | OliverX | grummel |
| 13:37.29 | Jaxxan | my bad, dunno what i was thinking |
| 13:37.50 | Jaxxan | i'm not sure about ISDN to be honest talk to your provider and find out what they're expecting |
| 13:38.02 | SparFux | As a matter of fact, the card is detected by asterisk, but I cannot dial into it. |
| 13:38.10 | Jaxxan | i use pri_cpe |
| 13:38.36 | ManxPower | Jaxxan, He's using BRI, not PRI, they are TOTALLY different. |
| 13:38.52 | Jaxxan | there ya go (= |
| 13:39.03 | Jaxxan | i have no clue |
| 13:39.30 | OliverX | ManxPower: Can you help me? |
| 13:40.03 | Jaxxan | going to bed, tired. g'night guys ! |
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| 13:40.29 | ManxPower | OliverX, If you send me a plain ticket to somewhere in the EU, find me a place to live, but me a the same card you are using, and then give me time to research it, then yes. If you are not prepared to do that then I cannot help you |
| 13:40.31 | SparFux | well what signalling does chan-capi use? |
| 13:40.37 | ManxPower | plain == plane |
| 13:40.47 | OliverX | Yes |
| 13:40.55 | OliverX | But the ISDN is availible |
| 13:40.56 | ManxPower | oh, you would also have to install a BRI for me. |
| 13:41.00 | OliverX | see the paste |
| 13:41.07 | OliverX | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:41.19 | OliverX | the say me the asterisk console |
| 13:41.41 | OliverX | that |
| 13:41.44 | ManxPower | OliverX, Those messages are speaking strange language to me. |
| 13:41.53 | OliverX | Hm? |
| 13:42.40 | ManxPower | IF DID means "100" then you need an exten => 100,1,whatever |
| 13:42.59 | ManxPower | But in Euroland they use the term DDI, not DID |
| 13:42.59 | OliverX | but s says ALL? |
| 13:43.10 | ManxPower | OliverX, no, s says "unknown" |
| 13:43.13 | OliverX | s is for unknown incommings :/ |
| 13:43.17 | OliverX | yes |
| 13:43.17 | OliverX | ! |
| 13:43.45 | ManxPower | OliverX, If I hand you a letter with no address on it, that is "s" |
| 13:44.07 | ManxPower | If I hand you a letter with an address of "100" on it, then exten => 100, not exten => s |
| 13:44.22 | OliverX | http://rafb.net/paste/results/AzKWeh37.html |
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| 13:44.33 | OliverX | this dont help :/ |
| 13:44.35 | ManxPower | "s" means "unknown". "s" does NOT mean "any" |
| 13:44.43 | OliverX | yes i know ;) |
| 13:44.48 | OliverX | read my next paste pls ;) |
| 13:44.56 | cced2 | Jaxxan : are you still here? |
| 13:45.29 | cced2 | I am cced. |
| 13:45.44 | ManxPower | exten => s is only normally used with ANALOG FXO |
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| 13:46.27 | OliverX | ManxPower http://rafb.net/paste/results/AzKWeh37.html <- |
| 13:47.04 | ManxPower | I do not see an error in that paste |
| 13:47.33 | ManxPower | I assume one of your telephone numbers ends in "100" |
| 13:48.39 | OliverX | yes my hardware telephone system translate the public number to an internal number |
| 13:50.05 | OliverX | mapping *g* |
| 13:57.00 | OliverX | Perhaps i have forgotten a command :/ |
| 13:57.52 | eric_s | hmm is there a way to make asterisk keep ringing, even if the line is busy? i am using chan_capi |
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| 14:02.01 | SparFux | HOw am I supposed to know which signalling type to choose with zaphfc? |
| 14:04.25 | coppice | there aren't exactly a lot of choices with zaphfc |
| 14:05.51 | SparFux | I need DSS1, euroisdn. |
| 14:06.32 | SparFux | it's not there. |
| 14:07.20 | SparFux | bri_net_ptmp |
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| 14:11.57 | coppice | switchtype = euroisdn |
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| 14:15.21 | Cybertoy | hi ... I know this is not asterisk related... but does someone happen to have a cisco 7970 phone and did the phone change to daylight savings time? and if yes can I have a look at that part of the SEP....cnf.xml file? |
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| 15:09.42 | brif8 | I bought a Cisco 7920. In reading the SCCP2 how to where do I get the cmterm_7920.3.3xxx bin file ? |
| 15:12.27 | tzafrir | bri_net and bri_net_ptmp are for TE mode, right? |
| 15:14.52 | dpryo | brif8: Either you got it with your CM-license, or you need login @ cisco.com and download it. |
| 15:15.46 | tzafrir | BTW: as there is still no sign of newer bristuff: if anybody is interested in a version of bristuff's asterisk.patch that will build with asterisk 1.2.6, give me a buzz |
| 15:16.38 | brif8 | dpryo: I just bought the phone, no CD or License came in the box. I've tried looking at cisco.com to login but they talk about busines partners |
| 15:25.49 | brif8 | dpryo: what do I need to do ? |
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| 15:26.18 | dpryo | brif8: Buy a cisco license ;) |
| 15:26.26 | brif8 | from whom |
| 15:26.39 | brif8 | You need to register to buy direct from cisco |
| 15:26.41 | dpryo | A cisco business partner ;P |
| 15:26.47 | brif8 | where can I buy one online ? |
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| 15:28.05 | dpryo | Don't know of any international webshops, but there is a few norwegian ones, though I don't suppose that'll help you :) |
| 15:34.07 | brif8 | ok. I have another question I have two G927 Licenses for 5 and 10 channels respectively. How do I move these to a new machine and combine them into one License ? |
| 15:34.27 | bkw_ | brif8, you a bit dyslexic ? |
| 15:34.36 | brif8 | yes |
| 15:34.49 | brif8 | very actually |
| 15:34.49 | bkw_ | me2 :P |
| 15:35.23 | brif8 | bkw_: I'm sure we all cope |
| 15:36.28 | brif8 | bkw_: know how to combine the licenses ? |
| 15:37.44 | bkw_ | you just do it |
| 15:37.47 | bkw_ | and it sees them all |
| 15:39.06 | brif8 | into a single file |
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| 16:06.51 | grem_lin | Hi there, I wonder if you could help me with a dialplan problem (what I've got can be found here http://pastebin.com/649646)... Basically what I want it to do is when somebody calls to take that call, wait a few seconds and hangup.. then after another couple of seconds make an outbound call to another number. What I'm finding is that the initial call does not hang up, and asterisk bridges the inbound and outbound calls. Any help would be grea |
| 16:06.51 | grem_lin | tly appreciated. |
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| 16:07.01 | delox99 | hi all |
| 16:07.27 | delox99 | im writing a script for a calling card application |
| 16:07.43 | delox99 | i want to get dtmf digits without anwering the channel |
| 16:08.29 | delox99 | the docs talks about a noanswer option for the read command but it doesnt seem to do anything |
| 16:08.35 | delox99 | any ideas? |
| 16:13.39 | Uzzi | bmg505, hi!have you the commands? |
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| 16:20.17 | wunderkin | delox99, you can't get dtmf without answering |
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| 16:20.53 | delox99 | that suck |
| 16:21.00 | delox99 | it screws the cdr |
| 16:21.41 | delox99 | do you know what people do to start cdr time only on answer of the callee channel? |
| 16:22.43 | delox99 | because as soon as i answer the channel, the billsec timer starts so i have no way to get the billsec time compared to the duration of the whole call |
| 16:23.51 | delox99 | i could use resetCDR but again it will not be totally accurate |
| 16:24.39 | delox99 | timer will start and run while the call is being connected and ringning |
| 16:24.53 | delox99 | i want the timer to start only if callee answers |
| 16:25.29 | delox99 | is it possible to answer channel get dtmf close channel then do other thig without losing caller? |
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| 16:58.06 | delox99 | youpi |
| 16:58.13 | delox99 | ResetCDR does it |
| 16:58.41 | delox99 | it resets the cdr and wait for another answer to start again |
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| 17:04.41 | OliverX | how can i set the language de(german) for all extensions |
| 17:05.01 | OliverX | as default/global |
| 17:08.12 | grem_lin | Hi all, could anybody help me with a little dialplan problem? I've put it on the forums, http://forums.digium.com/viewtopic.php?t=5780 |
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| 17:10.28 | Flauto | hi there |
| 17:10.44 | Flauto | i just installed a copy of fedora core 5 on an old machine |
| 17:10.54 | Flauto | when i tried to complie zapte. |
| 17:11.17 | Flauto | it is telling me make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.2054_FC5/build: No such file or directory. Stop. |
| 17:12.09 | IronHelix | make sure you have the kernel source installed |
| 17:12.25 | IronHelix | package name i think is either kernel-sources or kernel-development |
| 17:12.33 | Flauto | but i could not find any kernel source |
| 17:12.37 | IronHelix | you can use yum to get it- yum install kernel-development |
| 17:12.53 | IronHelix | yum will connect to fedora and download the package for you |
| 17:12.59 | IronHelix | after that compiling zaptel should work :) |
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| 17:15.14 | Flauto | Added 11 new packages, deleted 1 old in 7.27 seconds |
| 17:15.14 | Flauto | Parsing package install arguments |
| 17:15.14 | Flauto | No Match for argument: kernel-development |
| 17:15.14 | Flauto | Nothing to do |
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| 17:16.06 | IronHelix | try yum install kernel-soruce |
| 17:16.18 | IronHelix | ahh |
| 17:16.22 | IronHelix | its yum install kernel-devel |
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| 17:17.14 | Flauto | okay |
| 17:17.17 | Flauto | trying now |
| 17:17.23 | Flauto | thanks so much man |
| 17:18.14 | IronHelix | np |
| 17:19.14 | Flauto | it is installing |
| 17:20.11 | IronHelix | excellent. after that try compiling zaptel again, it should work |
| 17:20.26 | IronHelix | yum is delicous :) |
| 17:20.53 | Flauto | what is yum then |
| 17:20.54 | IronHelix | the other thing you might wanna do is yum update, it will check fedora for updates of all the software you have on your system and update it if needed |
| 17:21.04 | IronHelix | Yellowdog Update Manager |
| 17:21.43 | IronHelix | its a tool that deals with RPM packages and server-side repositories of RPMs. It lets you easily download, install, and update RPM-based packages from a server |
| 17:21.55 | Flauto | i tried, still not working |
| 17:22.01 | IronHelix | hmmm |
| 17:22.34 | Flauto | i am yum updating |
| 17:22.43 | IronHelix | perhaps yum downloaded the latest kernel source and you have an older kernel |
| 17:22.48 | IronHelix | yeah yum update, then reboot |
| 17:22.51 | IronHelix | try zaptel again |
| 17:23.00 | IronHelix | anyway i gotta run, good luck! |
| 17:23.08 | bkw_ | linux is such a mess all these distros should team up and do it right.... |
| 17:23.12 | Flauto | thanks |
| 17:23.13 | IronHelix | agreed |
| 17:23.16 | eric_s | what is right? :) |
| 17:23.24 | eric_s | for you it is one thing, for me it is another... |
| 17:23.32 | Flauto | what should i do if i had an old kernerl source installed |
| 17:23.37 | Flauto | i need to uninstal it |
| 17:23.39 | IronHelix | dont worry bout it |
| 17:23.45 | IronHelix | just yum update and you will get the latest |
| 17:23.45 | bkw_ | eric_s, right is not having 1000 different distros |
| 17:23.54 | Flauto | okay |
| 17:23.55 | Flauto | thanks |
| 17:23.59 | IronHelix | if you then reboot you will be running latest kernel and have latest source |
| 17:24.01 | eric_s | bkw_: right is having the distro which suits everyone best |
| 17:24.02 | Flauto | i am new to linux |
| 17:24.14 | Flauto | great |
| 17:24.20 | IronHelix | the problem IMHO is that distros put stuff in all different folders |
| 17:24.30 | Flauto | i never played with fedora before today |
| 17:24.30 | bkw_ | eric_s, ya but you can't please everyone but it seems the BSD folks have it down |
| 17:24.36 | Flauto | i was using mandriva |
| 17:24.46 | Flauto | so, i know a little bit about that |
| 17:24.51 | eric_s | bkw_: i guess the bsd community is much smaller, and i guess there are differences between the bsds |
| 17:25.05 | SplasPood | Anyone have a utility that'll go through a list of dids and find say... english 4 letter words that correspond with the last 4 (yes I know I could write one) |
| 17:25.14 | IronHelix | at least under win32, i KNOW that a user's stuff is going to be in /Documents and settings/username/xxxx; with Linux there is no such guarantee esp for libraries and modules |
| 17:25.24 | mishehu | you can please all of the people some of the time, some of the people all the time, but you can't please all the people all of the time... |
| 17:26.06 | IronHelix | oh well |
| 17:26.07 | IronHelix | im out |
| 17:26.08 | IronHelix | later all |
| 17:26.10 | eric_s | IronHelix: libs in windows can also be in different places ..%windir%, %systemdir% and the directory where the app itself is ( at least those 3 i remember ) |
| 17:26.13 | Flauto | bye |
| 17:26.27 | IronHelix | true but theres a logic to it... |
| 17:26.43 | IronHelix | ie app first checks its own dir then systemdir then windir as i recall |
| 17:26.44 | IronHelix | but yeah |
| 17:26.46 | IronHelix | leaving :) |
| 17:26.48 | eric_s | cu |
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| 17:27.34 | bkw_ | eric_s, the BSD community isn't small by any means... |
| 17:29.43 | eric_s | bkw_: i never said that, but i guess that netbsd, openbsd and freebsd also have their differences |
| 17:30.35 | file | bkw_: I'm contemplating switch to GSM... |
| 17:30.37 | file | er switching |
| 17:30.48 | Qwell | file: GSM?! |
| 17:31.34 | file | Qwell: yessssssssss |
| 17:32.02 | Qwell | Ironhand: Those paths can easily change in Windows too |
| 17:32.08 | Qwell | IronHelix: |
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| 17:33.35 | file | I wonder if we have EDGE coverage here |
| 17:34.38 | tzanger | file: where? |
| 17:34.47 | tzanger | EDGE is in Toronto, Vancouver and Montreal IIRC |
| 17:34.56 | file | well that's what I thought too |
| 17:35.07 | file | but my friend got a new EDGE capable phone and it had EDGE coverage here |
| 17:35.19 | tzanger | where is here? |
| 17:35.25 | file | Moncton, New Brunswick |
| 17:35.29 | tzanger | ahh |
| 17:36.29 | file | he saw the "E" on his screen and was wondering what it meant... |
| 17:36.40 | tzanger | interesting |
| 17:36.42 | Qwell | file: It only happens when you hold it. |
| 17:36.46 | Qwell | It means EVIL :( |
| 17:36.48 | tzanger | haha |
| 17:36.52 | file | haha |
| 17:37.02 | file | not that I would ever use data service |
| 17:47.23 | OliverX | how can i set the language de(german) for all extensions |
| 17:47.24 | OliverX | as default/global |
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| 18:10.00 | monthos | bah, i cant figure this out, im setting the digit timeout, but when i get a call in through my sip connection, when i dial any number, say 500, before i can finish, asterisk errors saying invalid extension '55' |
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| 18:10.30 | monthos | im not fat fingering it either, it always duplicates the first number i type, and errors |
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| 18:13.47 | tier-1 | good morning |
| 18:13.52 | tier-1 | or afternoon |
| 18:14.00 | monthos | afternoon |
| 18:14.03 | tier-1 | I need help witht his issue |
| 18:14.06 | tier-1 | Apr 9 11:09:37 ERROR[6554]: chan_zap.c:10609 setup_zap: Unknown signalling method 'pri_cpe' |
| 18:14.06 | tier-1 | Apr 9 11:09:37 ERROR[6554]: chan_zap.c:10234 setup_zap: Signalling must be specified |
| 18:14.06 | tier-1 | before any channels are. |
| 18:14.53 | tier-1 | it worked until i update svn asterisk-1.2 |
| 18:15.26 | theorem_ | I know the FAQ has a listing of hard phones , and I've read a few, but is there ony one particular hard phone there good for a first-timer ? |
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| 18:17.52 | tier-1 | any input ? |
| 18:18.34 | mmlj4 | theorem_: don't get a grandstream |
| 18:18.45 | theorem_ | I'll make a note of that |
| 18:18.52 | mmlj4 | many have :-) |
| 18:19.07 | theorem_ | I see this Unide2n UIP1868P , but it seems to be locked to the Packet8 service |
| 18:20.03 | tier-1 | voipsupply.com |
| 18:20.21 | theorem_ | checking |
| 18:20.39 | tier-1 | anddont get a polycom |
| 18:20.47 | theorem_ | noted |
| 18:20.56 | theorem_ | how about Zylex ? |
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| 18:21.32 | tier-1 | they are ok |
| 18:22.14 | tier-1 | but sipura should be a good start |
| 18:22.30 | theorem_ | I thought sipura was bought by Linksys (cisco) last year ? |
| 18:22.49 | tier-1 | yes but they still make devices |
| 18:22.50 | diLLec | thats right. |
| 18:23.14 | theorem_ | because I saw ATA adapters IDENTICAL in Linksys offerings to Sipura, just rebranded |
| 18:23.51 | tier-1 | linksys pap-2 na might be a good start |
| 18:24.01 | theorem_ | Uniden TRU8885 VOIP Bundle w/ Sipura SPA-1001 ... |
| 18:24.14 | theorem_ | that's just a POTS phone with a VOIP adaptor ? |
| 18:24.47 | theorem_ | silly. |
| 18:25.51 | tier-1 | any inout on my issue |
| 18:25.58 | tier-1 | inpput that is |
| 18:26.12 | theorem_ | sorry :( |
| 18:26.44 | *** part/#asterisk mko-025 (n=korpim@p5498AAF0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 18:34.13 | *** join/#asterisk Dabian (n=M0RTEN@fsf/member/dabian) |
| 18:36.52 | tier-1 | rrr |
| 18:37.06 | tier-1 | I want my asterisk back up with my pri's |
| 18:39.44 | monthos | why when i dial a number, WaitExten is seeing me type 55 instead of 5, and 11 instead of 1. This is driving me crazy |
| 18:40.14 | Dabian | monthos : One word.. |
| 18:40.35 | Dabian | monthos : Don't know if its usefull, but one word.. |
| 18:40.59 | monthos | huh? |
| 18:41.06 | Dabian | nah, dialplan |
| 18:42.53 | monthos | my dialplan isnt that complicated. but when i get a call from my provider, it seems like its duplicating keypresses |
| 18:44.16 | trimi` | does any1 have agi script that will allow asterisk to answer only the CID that are on a list ( asterisk DB or mysql ) i need the oposite of a blacklist example in asterisk |
| 18:44.37 | theorem_ | seems easy enough in perl |
| 18:45.25 | trimi` | or can any1 do it |
| 18:46.03 | *** join/#asterisk ToTo (n=ToTo@host189-86.pool8256.interbusiness.it) |
| 18:46.06 | trimi` | does any1 have agi script that will allow asterisk to answer only the CID that are on a list ( asterisk DB or mysql ) i need the oposite of a blacklist example in asterisk |
| 18:47.22 | theorem_ | $/ = 1; $in = $ARGV[0]; $dialplan = </etc/asterisk/dialplan.conf>; return 2 if $innumber =~ /$in/; |
| 18:47.38 | theorem_ | rips through your config per call to figure that out |
| 18:47.45 | theorem_ | there's got to be a better way though :) |
| 18:48.16 | theorem_ | ah , asterisk DB you say ? use perl to do a select query with DBI. |
| 18:48.17 | trimi` | <theorem_> is this for me ? |
| 18:48.42 | theorem_ | trimi` - it is, but requires you know wtf you're doing , basically, with perl |
| 18:49.10 | trimi` | <theorem_> private pls |
| 18:53.01 | *** join/#asterisk Flauto (n=zhao@adsl-75-3-187-145.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) |
| 18:53.07 | Flauto | hi there |
| 18:53.24 | Flauto | i did yum update on my new fedora core 5 |
| 18:53.31 | theorem_ | congratulations |
| 18:53.32 | Flauto | and compiled the zaptel |
| 18:53.40 | Flauto | but it tells me |
| 18:54.07 | Flauto | cc -I. -O4 -g -Wall -DBUILDING_TONEZONE -DSTANDALONE_ZAPATA -DZAPTEL_CONFIG=\"/etc/zaptel.conf\" -lm gendigits.c -o gendigits |
| 18:54.07 | Flauto | make: cc: Command not found |
| 18:54.08 | Flauto | make: *** [gendigits] Error 127 |
| 18:54.16 | Flauto | theorem, hehe |
| 18:54.22 | Flauto | thanks but it did not work |
| 18:54.37 | Flauto | what else i need for this |
| 18:54.55 | Flauto | i got kernel-development |
| 18:55.38 | Flauto | what is that tonezone thing |
| 18:56.32 | Flauto | theorem |
| 18:56.38 | Flauto | any idea on that? |
| 18:56.54 | monthos | Flauto: your going to need to install gcc and a bunch of other development utilities |
| 18:57.10 | Flauto | okay |
| 18:57.17 | theorem_ | yeah I would normally think that maybe your Kernel headers are not available |
| 18:57.23 | theorem_ | this is a 2.6+ kernel ? |
| 18:57.43 | theorem_ | I don't use RH FC. |
| 18:57.45 | trimi` | does any1 have agi script that will allow asterisk to answer only the CID that are on a list ( asterisk DB or mysql ) i need the oposite of a blacklist example in asterisk |
| 18:58.02 | theorem_ | trimi` is offering $$. |
| 18:58.13 | theorem_ | ;-) |
| 18:58.45 | Flauto | monthos, i am getting gcc now |
| 18:58.50 | theorem_ | trimi` - where is this blacklist example ? |
| 18:59.20 | *** join/#asterisk mrtwister|mobile (n=andrius@cable-10-68.cgates.lt) |
| 18:59.34 | *** part/#asterisk mrtwister|mobile (n=andrius@cable-10-68.cgates.lt) |
| 19:00.42 | Flauto | i got gcc and it is compiling now |
| 19:00.48 | Flauto | hope it will go through |
| 19:00.52 | theorem_ | trimi` - if you understand the blacklist example you can reverse it to flip the list |
| 19:01.17 | *** join/#asterisk timscott (n=a@d198-53-19-216.abhsia.telus.net) |
| 19:01.50 | trimi` | <theorem_> im begginer |
| 19:02.25 | theorem_ | then how do you have $$ to pay ? or were you just planning on running away ? |
| 19:02.28 | *** join/#asterisk Cybertoy (n=maxim@dsl254-123-241.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 19:03.19 | *** join/#asterisk RoyK (n=roy@a217-118-45-74.bluecom.no) |
| 19:04.00 | trimi` | hehe |
| 19:04.07 | theorem_ | the latter |
| 19:04.13 | trimi` | if i was like that i wouldn ask |
| 19:04.18 | theorem_ | right |
| 19:04.26 | *** join/#asterisk timscott (n=a@d198-53-19-216.abhsia.telus.net) |
| 19:04.30 | Flauto | theorem, now, it is telling me error again |
| 19:04.34 | Flauto | rep -q "enabled") ; then restorecon -v /usr/lib/libtonezone.so; fi |
| 19:04.34 | Flauto | /bin/sh: restorecon: command not found |
| 19:04.34 | Flauto | make: *** [install] Error 127 |
| 19:04.46 | theorem_ | your install failed |
| 19:04.48 | theorem_ | are you root ? |
| 19:04.52 | Flauto | yes |
| 19:05.27 | theorem_ | did you do a make clean first ? |
| 19:05.31 | Flauto | it is talking about selinux |
| 19:05.38 | timscott | what is this "restorecon?" |
| 19:05.39 | Flauto | yes |
| 19:06.31 | theorem_ | hmm |
| 19:06.36 | Flauto | should i try one more tim |
| 19:06.41 | theorem_ | yeah beginner here too, not sure there Flauto :-/ |
| 19:06.49 | *** join/#asterisk inv_Arp (i=junya@adsl-11-225-195.mia.bellsouth.net) |
| 19:06.52 | Flauto | hehe |
| 19:07.02 | Flauto | it must be some other package i need |
| 19:07.11 | timscott | what is "restorecon?" |
| 19:07.14 | Flauto | but i dont' know which one |
| 19:07.17 | theorem_ | where are your kernel includes kept ? |
| 19:07.19 | Flauto | i have no idea |
| 19:07.20 | timscott | What distribution are you using? |
| 19:07.32 | Flauto | i use fedora core 5 |
| 19:07.36 | timscott | oh |
| 19:07.38 | Flauto | just installed |
| 19:07.47 | Flauto | never played it before |
| 19:07.58 | timscott | I don't know much about fedora. |
| 19:08.12 | timscott | Well, not with selinux on, anyways. |
| 19:08.16 | timscott | I've always just turned it off. |
| 19:08.20 | timscott | Is your selinux on or off? |
| 19:08.52 | Flauto | how can i turn it off |
| 19:08.53 | Flauto | hehe |
| 19:09.01 | Flauto | sorry for asking the stupid question |
| 19:09.02 | theorem_ | which selinux |
| 19:09.04 | theorem_ | man selinux |
| 19:09.04 | theorem_ | ? |
| 19:09.19 | Flauto | how can i check |
| 19:09.31 | timscott | Oh |
| 19:09.33 | timscott | haha |
| 19:09.35 | timscott | Try this |
| 19:09.41 | timscott | did you "su" into root? |
| 19:09.48 | Flauto | yes |
| 19:09.50 | Flauto | i am root |
| 19:09.56 | timscott | Did you use "su" to get into root? |
| 19:10.04 | timscott | Try logging out, using using 'su -' to get into root |
| 19:10.07 | theorem_ | did you su , or did you login to root |
| 19:10.19 | theorem_ | you are thinking it's reporting bad perms for him ? |
| 19:10.21 | Flauto | i turned off the serlinux |
| 19:10.22 | timscott | I bet /usr/sbin is missing from your $PATH |
| 19:10.34 | theorem_ | echo $PATH |
| 19:11.07 | Flauto | [root@localhost zaptel]# echo $PATH |
| 19:11.07 | Flauto | /usr/kerberos/sbin:/usr/kerberos/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/home/zhao/bin |
| 19:11.30 | theorem_ | export PATH=$PATH:/usr/sbin |
| 19:11.56 | *** join/#asterisk jofre (n=jofre@200.138.204.23) |
| 19:12.08 | Flauto | done |
| 19:12.11 | theorem_ | I wonder why the kerberos sbin though .. odd |
| 19:12.20 | timscott | try it again, Flauto. |
| 19:12.24 | theorem_ | try the make again .. |
| 19:12.25 | timscott | Hopefully it'll work :S |
| 19:12.26 | Flauto | okay |
| 19:12.37 | jofre | does anyone knows if IAXy can send and receive faxes ? |
| 19:12.42 | shido6 | ulaw |
| 19:12.46 | Flauto | samething |
| 19:12.48 | shido6 | yes with .... weird results |
| 19:12.56 | shido6 | resending page 2 a couple times |
| 19:12.59 | tier-1 | Apr 9 11:09:37 ERROR[6554]: chan_zap.c:10609 setup_zap: Unknown signalling method 'pri_cpe' |
| 19:13.06 | jofre | ack |
| 19:13.07 | shido6 | sometimes it just works, and no transcoding |
| 19:13.10 | tier-1 | Apr 9 11:09:37 ERROR[6554]: chan_zap.c:10234 setup_zap: Signalling must be specified |
| 19:13.10 | shido6 | keep that in mind |
| 19:13.18 | shido6 | ulaw from start to end |
| 19:13.19 | tier-1 | any oin have info on this |
| 19:13.20 | timscott | Flauto, sorry, just an idea. :/ |
| 19:13.29 | theorem_ | ulaw ? |
| 19:13.36 | Flauto | sgcaa |
| 19:13.45 | shido6 | ulaw, for jofre's ? |
| 19:13.49 | timscott | is there a 'restorecon' command on your system? |
| 19:13.55 | *** join/#asterisk Shoragan (n=shoragan@d072.apm.etc.tu-bs.de) |
| 19:13.59 | theorem_ | which restrecon |
| 19:14.07 | theorem_ | find / -name restorecon |
| 19:14.10 | timscott | find / -name restorecon :) |
| 19:14.13 | timscott | oh |
| 19:14.15 | *** join/#asterisk ToTo (n=ToTo@host189-86.pool8256.interbusiness.it) |
| 19:14.17 | timscott | too slow >_< |
| 19:14.18 | theorem_ | bam |
| 19:14.21 | theorem_ | :) |
| 19:15.05 | timscott | you have to add the location of restorecon to your path |
| 19:15.17 | tier-1 | who ? |
| 19:15.21 | theorem_ | your mom |
| 19:15.26 | Flauto | /sbin/restorecon |
| 19:15.26 | Flauto | find: WARNING: Hard link count is wrong for /selinux: this may be a bug in your filesystem driver. Automatically turning on find's -noleaf option. Earlier results may have failed to include directories that should have been searched. |
| 19:15.27 | timscott | Flauto: you have to add the location of restorecon to your path |
| 19:15.35 | timscott | Okay, well add /sbin to your path then |
| 19:15.53 | timscott | export PATH=$PATH:/sbin |
| 19:15.58 | theorem_ | export PATH=$PATH:/sbin |
| 19:16.01 | theorem_ | ooo! |
| 19:16.03 | theorem_ | beat me |
| 19:16.18 | timscott | Flauto: if you try it again after updating your path, it should work for you. :) |
| 19:16.22 | timscott | I *hope* :S |
| 19:18.03 | Flauto | it worked |
| 19:18.08 | timscott | Nice, great. ) |
| 19:18.10 | timscott | :) |
| 19:18.11 | Flauto | thanks |
| 19:18.13 | Flauto | hehe |
| 19:18.16 | timscott | No problem man. |
| 19:18.22 | Flauto | now, i will install libpri |
| 19:19.19 | theorem_ | timscott while you're here ... |
| 19:19.36 | theorem_ | I need to make some sound clips for my Vmail prompts |
| 19:19.51 | theorem_ | what format do they need to be in ? |
| 19:19.56 | Flauto | now, asterisk |
| 19:19.59 | theorem_ | mp3 ? wav ? |
| 19:20.36 | Flauto | gsm |
| 19:20.41 | Flauto | i would assume |
| 19:20.53 | timscott | huh? |
| 19:21.00 | timscott | Vmail prom...oh |
| 19:21.02 | timscott | gotcha |
| 19:21.10 | timscott | You mean like, unavailable messages? |
| 19:21.13 | theorem_ | hmm |
| 19:21.22 | theorem_ | lets say this |
| 19:21.36 | theorem_ | I have a basic dialplan setup to access vmail features |
| 19:21.44 | theorem_ | but no I dea how to setup further |
| 19:21.45 | timscott | does anyone know of any good load-simulators for asterisk that use SIP or IAX ? |
| 19:21.59 | timscott | theorum: what do you want to do? |
| 19:22.48 | theorem_ | timscott - I assume the basics .. save/listen to Vmails, set messages to give to inbound users , ... to start |
| 19:23.05 | Flauto | this computer is atholon 850 mhz |
| 19:23.12 | theorem_ | more than enough |
| 19:23.16 | timscott | Oh. |
| 19:23.21 | timscott | Sorry about the "e". |
| 19:23.42 | *** join/#asterisk A-Tuin (n=a-tuin@steves.ip.v4.me.uk) |
| 19:23.48 | Flauto | i was using a p3 450mhz and it works well too |
| 19:23.59 | theorem_ | np :) |
| 19:24.02 | theorem_ | actually .. wow |
| 19:24.08 | theorem_ | this basic setup is nice |
| 19:24.44 | Flauto | what you mean basic setup |
| 19:24.59 | theorem_ | 1 sec |
| 19:25.05 | Flauto | yes, sir |
| 19:25.33 | Flauto | res_crypto.c:569: warning: implicit declaration of function ‘ERR_load_crypto_strings’ |
| 19:25.33 | Flauto | make[1]: *** [res_crypto.o] Error 1 |
| 19:25.33 | Flauto | make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/asterisk/res' |
| 19:25.34 | Flauto | make: *** [subdirs] Error 1 |
| 19:25.38 | Flauto | error again |
| 19:25.51 | Flauto | this when i use make for asterisk |
| 19:26.27 | *** join/#asterisk MacDome (n=eseidel@c-71-198-177-144.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 19:26.44 | znoG | is there no "default context" for IAX like there is in SIP? |
| 19:26.51 | timscott | there is |
| 19:27.01 | znoG | oh, it's set within the guest user isn't it |
| 19:27.06 | timscott | unless we're talking about different things... |
| 19:27.08 | timscott | oh |
| 19:27.10 | timscott | nevermind, i'm not sure |
| 19:27.20 | timscott | i thought you meant context= in the [IAX] thing |
| 19:27.23 | timscott | neverminddd |
| 19:27.40 | trimi` | does any1 have agi script that will allow asterisk to answer only the CID that are on a list ( asterisk DB or mysql ) i need the oposite of a blacklist example in asterisk |
| 19:27.47 | *** join/#asterisk MacDome (n=eseidel@c-71-198-177-144.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 19:27.57 | *** join/#asterisk DoktorGreg (n=Greg@70.91.121.89) |
| 19:28.17 | Flauto | timescott, error again here |
| 19:28.18 | DoktorGreg | well there is a few people on this chan |
| 19:29.02 | DoktorGreg | I have a question about... Asterisk, Norstar PRI integration, and call parking |
| 19:29.29 | DoktorGreg | ne1 here ever do anything like that? |
| 19:30.23 | theorem_ | ahh |
| 19:31.07 | DoktorGreg | OMG Ponies!!!1! |
| 19:31.21 | Flauto | theorem, i got an error again |
| 19:31.29 | Dabian | Ponies!? |
| 19:31.36 | DoktorGreg | !!!1! |
| 19:31.40 | Dabian | !!!1! :) |
| 19:31.46 | Dabian | /. :) |
| 19:31.58 | timscott | ponies on slashdot? |
| 19:32.14 | Dabian | timscott : OMG!!!1! |
| 19:32.21 | timscott | zOMG!!!@1 |
| 19:32.58 | DoktorGreg | so i guess here is my question |
| 19:33.11 | timscott | sorry, not familier with norstar integration |
| 19:33.12 | Dabian | Whats teh deal with Ponies!!!1! anyhow? Are they cute or something? |
| 19:33.13 | *** join/#asterisk riddlebox (n=james@24-171-10-102.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) |
| 19:33.48 | theorem_ | someone saw the SImpsons lately |
| 19:33.52 | theorem_ | er |
| 19:33.54 | theorem_ | Sienfeld |
| 19:33.59 | Dabian | I need a class of water? |
| 19:33.59 | theorem_ | almost the same ;-) |
| 19:34.04 | DoktorGreg | check out the entry "cutest web site ever found" in the april 1st edition of slashdot |
| 19:34.08 | Flauto | theorem |
| 19:34.12 | Flauto | help |
| 19:34.21 | theorem_ | what's the prob ? |
| 19:34.31 | Flauto | make[1]: *** [res_crypto.o] Error 1 |
| 19:34.31 | Flauto | make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/asterisk/res' |
| 19:34.32 | Flauto | make: *** [subdirs] Error 1 |
| 19:34.49 | theorem_ | ahhh .. |
| 19:34.52 | theorem_ | dunno .. |
| 19:34.57 | theorem_ | what happened ? |
| 19:35.06 | theorem_ | can you knowpaced the text somewhere ? |
| 19:35.14 | theorem_ | http://pastebot.nd.edu/ |
| 19:35.34 | theorem_ | I'll see if there's something which may have cropped up |
| 19:35.37 | DoktorGreg | anyone know how to get a hold of the guy who wrote the norstar to asterisk integration guide? his email bounces.... |
| 19:36.55 | DoktorGreg | hmmm i know |
| 19:37.09 | DoktorGreg | is this dev help or user help chat? |
| 19:37.15 | theorem_ | help chat |
| 19:37.26 | theorem_ | dev is -dev afaik |
| 19:37.32 | DoktorGreg | kk |
| 19:37.40 | theorem_ | or #freepbx |
| 19:37.46 | theorem_ | see topic |
| 19:37.51 | Flauto | res_crypto.c:568: warning: implicit declaration of function ‘SSL_library_init’ |
| 19:37.52 | Flauto | res_crypto.c:569: warning: implicit declaration of function ‘ERR_load_crypto_strings’ |
| 19:37.52 | Flauto | make[1]: *** [res_crypto.o] Error 1 |
| 19:37.52 | Flauto | make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/asterisk/res' |
| 19:37.52 | Flauto | make: *** [subdirs] Error 1 |
| 19:37.52 | Flauto | [root@localhost asterisk]# |
| 19:37.53 | theorem_ | scratch that |
| 19:37.56 | Qwell | !pb |
| 19:37.58 | Qwell | ~pb |
| 19:37.59 | jbot | rumour has it, pb is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.com/, or http://pastebin.ca |
| 19:38.20 | *** join/#asterisk Lino` (n=Lino@i577BD945.versanet.de) |
| 19:39.26 | DoktorGreg | ok, next question |
| 19:39.35 | theorem_ | ok ? |
| 19:39.43 | DoktorGreg | I am using the rapid asterisk distro, is there a better distro? |
| 19:39.55 | theorem_ | from scratch ? :) |
| 19:40.49 | theorem_ | hmm , how can I specify the username to forward an email to when I have a Vmail in the system ? is it read from the sip.conf ? |
| 19:41.45 | theorem_ | scratch that |
| 19:41.49 | theorem_ | voicemail.conf obviously |
| 19:41.51 | theorem_ | sheeshj ! |
| 19:41.53 | Flauto | sorry guys |
| 19:41.57 | Flauto | here is the link |
| 19:42.04 | Flauto | http://pastebin.com/650047 |
| 19:42.20 | DoktorGreg | in the rapid asterisk distro it is per extension in the /etc/asterisk/voicemail-phones.d directory |
| 19:43.01 | theorem_ | what are the benefits to using the rapid distro vs something else ? |
| 19:43.01 | DoktorGreg | ok next question |
| 19:43.04 | theorem_ | heh |
| 19:43.16 | DoktorGreg | well |
| 19:43.28 | DoktorGreg | I more or less just installed the rapid distro |
| 19:43.34 | DoktorGreg | and it all just worked tm |
| 19:43.39 | theorem_ | ooo |
| 19:43.49 | theorem_ | you learn little though .. I suppose |
| 19:43.57 | DoktorGreg | i dont know, |
| 19:44.13 | DoktorGreg | still have to dig through extensions.conf to make it work the way you want it too |
| 19:44.22 | theorem_ | true |
| 19:44.50 | DoktorGreg | downside is |
| 19:45.07 | DoktorGreg | if you plug it in, and activate trunks, and have it all working correctly... |
| 19:45.23 | DoktorGreg | it comes with zero security installed... |
| 19:45.37 | theorem_ | true |
| 19:45.48 | DoktorGreg | so any sip user or IAX user can use your trunk |
| 19:45.54 | theorem_ | not so good |
| 19:45.58 | DoktorGreg | thats where im at now |
| 19:46.10 | theorem_ | oh, so I should hook up ? :) |
| 19:46.18 | DoktorGreg | sure! |
| 19:46.26 | DoktorGreg | I would love some indy testing |
| 19:46.32 | theorem_ | indy ? |
| 19:46.40 | theorem_ | independent .. |
| 19:46.43 | DoktorGreg | someone besides me using it |
| 19:46.44 | theorem_ | right |
| 19:46.54 | theorem_ | I'm still too green |
| 19:47.07 | DoktorGreg | well do you have an iax client? |
| 19:47.14 | Flauto | theorem |
| 19:47.22 | Flauto | any idea about my error? |
| 19:47.34 | theorem_ | Flauto - sorry, paste the link again pls ? |
| 19:47.38 | trimi` | how do i check my asterisk version??? pls help quicly |
| 19:47.41 | Flauto | http://pastebin.com/650047 |
| 19:47.49 | Flauto | thanks theorem |
| 19:48.04 | theorem_ | DoktorGreg - SIP so far, I'd have to config the asterisk again for your trunk -- just had some help getting the first trunk working .. |
| 19:48.21 | theorem_ | trimi` - stupid question, see help in the console |
| 19:49.07 | theorem_ | Flauto - certianly there's nor to the error than that ? |
| 19:49.12 | theorem_ | *more |
| 19:49.44 | theorem_ | for a first peek though I'd say you are missing crypto components |
| 19:50.43 | Flauto | okay |
| 19:50.44 | timscott | try asking google |
| 19:50.46 | Flauto | let me try this |
| 19:50.51 | trimi` | how do i check my asterisk version??? pls help quicly |
| 19:51.01 | Qwell | trimi`: pls pay quickly |
| 19:51.04 | Qwell | paypal.com |
| 19:51.05 | Qwell | kthx |
| 19:51.28 | Flauto | haha |
| 19:51.29 | DoktorGreg | to get asterisk version |
| 19:51.31 | DoktorGreg | type |
| 19:51.36 | Flauto | qwell, you are always mean |
| 19:51.38 | trimi` | paste what ? |
| 19:51.42 | DoktorGreg | asterisk -V at the cli |
| 19:51.53 | NewSole | hi trimi`.... |
| 19:52.02 | Qwell | or, maybe "show version" |
| 19:52.07 | DoktorGreg | but dont type the 'at the cli' part |
| 19:52.16 | DoktorGreg | also nite |
| 19:52.18 | theorem_ | but do rm -rf |
| 19:52.23 | DoktorGreg | it has to be a capital -V |
| 19:52.37 | DoktorGreg | nite =note |
| 19:52.54 | DoktorGreg | rm -rf only works if your are in the root directory |
| 19:53.07 | DoktorGreg | er not the root directory |
| 19:53.12 | Qwell | DoktorGreg: Without args, nothing will happen.. |
| 19:53.13 | DoktorGreg | the / directory |
| 19:53.33 | Flauto | theorem, what should i do and where to get crypto then? |
| 19:53.42 | theorem_ | I think he'd actually type it .. which is why I didn't do it properly :) |
| 19:53.53 | theorem_ | Flauto - er, try again ? |
| 19:54.03 | theorem_ | I am not sure what you need there |
| 19:54.23 | theorem_ | the messages are short there , if you have the majority of the compile messages it might help |
| 19:54.37 | trimi` | http://pastebin.com/650047 |
| 19:54.46 | trimi` | you;ve got it there |
| 19:54.48 | trimi` | pls check |
| 19:54.52 | theorem_ | agasin , make sure your /usr/src/linux is pointing to your kernel's source |
| 19:55.04 | trimi` | <NewSole> hi btw |
| 19:55.16 | Flauto | theorem, you said that i am missing cypto, what should i do to get it |
| 19:55.18 | Qwell | trimi`: You need libcrypto. Try reading the docs |
| 19:55.32 | theorem_ | Flauto - libcrypto , same thing. |
| 19:55.38 | Flauto | okay |
| 19:55.50 | trimi` | errrrrr |
| 19:55.54 | trimi` | why do i need it ? |
| 19:56.30 | Flauto | i should check for the rpm? |
| 19:56.32 | Flauto | right |
| 19:56.38 | Flauto | haha |
| 19:56.38 | theorem_ | yum libcrypto |
| 19:56.40 | Flauto | yes |
| 19:57.02 | theorem_ | :( |
| 19:57.13 | theorem_ | no more help for dual headed. |
| 19:57.22 | DoktorGreg | can i offer a suggestion that might make this all easier |
| 19:57.32 | theorem_ | read the docs ? |
| 19:57.32 | Flauto | it did not give me any thing |
| 19:57.37 | DoktorGreg | vmware just released their vmware server free |
| 19:57.45 | DoktorGreg | get that |
| 19:57.45 | Qwell | DoktorGreg: welcome to 3 months ago |
| 19:57.47 | Cybertoy | you mean the player |
| 19:57.56 | DoktorGreg | then |
| 19:57.56 | Qwell | Cybertoy: server too |
| 19:58.01 | Cybertoy | really?? |
| 19:58.05 | theorem_ | yep |
| 19:58.07 | Cybertoy | gsx? headless? |
| 19:58.10 | DoktorGreg | use a asterisk disro |
| 19:58.10 | theorem_ | I think it was on slashdot recently |
| 19:58.35 | DoktorGreg | and run the asterisk distro in vmware |
| 19:59.06 | DoktorGreg | I know there are two distros |
| 19:59.24 | DoktorGreg | asterisk@home which is more or less complete targeted at home users |
| 19:59.35 | DoktorGreg | and rapid asterisk |
| 19:59.47 | DoktorGreg | which is more or less complete targeted at business users |
| 19:59.47 | Cybertoy | there's also astlinux. |
| 20:00.19 | Corydon76-home | Don't expect vmware to run Asterisk perfectly. Asterisk can be timing-sensitive for certain operations |
| 20:00.51 | DoktorGreg | that is a fair criticism |
| 20:00.56 | Cybertoy | I've been running asterisk on vmware gsx for a while now and never had a problem... however I don't route more than 3-7 calls at the same time either. |
| 20:01.15 | DoktorGreg | ahh new people chatting |
| 20:01.19 | Corydon76-home | Are you running musiconhold or conference rooms? |
| 20:01.24 | DoktorGreg | question about hardware |
| 20:01.33 | Cybertoy | yes.. musiconhold... |
| 20:01.39 | Cybertoy | no conference rooms. |
| 20:01.46 | Cybertoy | also no hardware. |
| 20:02.01 | DoktorGreg | is there a better PRI card for asterisk than the ones digium make? |
| 20:02.13 | theorem_ | not better supported afaik |
| 20:02.37 | DoktorGreg | wow i am about ready to lay down a 1000 on a feature card... |
| 20:02.59 | theorem_ | 100 ? wow |
| 20:03.00 | theorem_ | er |
| 20:03.01 | theorem_ | 1000 |
| 20:03.02 | Corydon76-home | DoktorGreg: for what reason? |
| 20:03.17 | DoktorGreg | integration between norstar system and asterisk |
| 20:03.38 | Corydon76-home | I mean, what is the Digium card not doing that you need it to? |
| 20:03.46 | DoktorGreg | oh |
| 20:04.02 | DoktorGreg | I expect it will do everything i need it to |
| 20:04.09 | Corydon76-home | It will. |
| 20:04.12 | DoktorGreg | I just have one question |
| 20:04.20 | DoktorGreg | how will call park work??? |
| 20:04.35 | Corydon76-home | You transfer to extension 700 (in the default config) |
| 20:04.57 | DoktorGreg | right, but my users have used a dedicated call park key on their norstar phones for a long time... |
| 20:05.02 | Corydon76-home | Asterisk then announces to you the exact parking lot |
| 20:05.18 | Qwell | DoktorGreg: Are you going to reuse the norstar phones, or new phones for *? |
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| 20:05.39 | Qwell | I assume the park button just sends a feature code, which you can map to 700 on * |
| 20:05.43 | DoktorGreg | I want a forklife upgrade... |
| 20:05.49 | DoktorGreg | forklift even |
| 20:06.06 | trimi` | comeon ppl isnt there any command to find my asterisk version |
| 20:06.08 | trimi` | ?????? |
| 20:06.16 | Corydon76-home | 'show version' |
| 20:06.16 | Qwell | trimi`: open your friggen eyes |
| 20:06.18 | timscott | Get out of here. |
| 20:06.27 | Qwell | You were told at least 3 different ways |
| 20:06.38 | Dabian | I am trying to set up mini asterisk. |
| 20:06.47 | ljam | trimi`: !rm -rf / |
| 20:06.51 | Dabian | I wonder if the example menu will work. |
| 20:06.54 | Qwell | ljam: you! |
| 20:06.58 | ljam | Qwell: moi? |
| 20:07.03 | Qwell | ljam: yes |
| 20:07.17 | Qwell | somebody needs to smack Sokol's IT guy :p |
| 20:07.24 | Qwell | specifically, the guy who runs the websites... |
| 20:07.28 | ljam | Qwell: ? |
| 20:07.34 | trimi` | is said CVS-HEAD-03/08/05 |
| 20:07.36 | Qwell | www.astricon.net != astricon.net |
| 20:07.40 | Qwell | silly, silly, silly |
| 20:07.45 | Qwell | one shouldn't need to type www. |
| 20:07.45 | trimi` | how do i find which version it is ? |
| 20:07.46 | DoktorGreg | well, i am waisting this beautiful sunny day talking about corporate telephones.... |
| 20:07.53 | Qwell | trimi`: That *IS* the version |
| 20:07.56 | timscott | no kidding Greg |
| 20:08.00 | timscott | It's nice outside :) |
| 20:08.10 | DoktorGreg | im gonna go now:) |
| 20:08.16 | Qwell | DoktorGreg: pay one of us, who don't like sunlight, to set it up |
| 20:08.22 | DoktorGreg | hehehe |
| 20:08.27 | Dabian | Where will asterisk report registration errors per default? |
| 20:08.30 | DoktorGreg | I am just about there |
| 20:08.41 | Qwell | Dabian: the cli |
| 20:08.50 | trimi` | qwel i need to know if is earlier or latest then 1.0.9 |
| 20:08.53 | DoktorGreg | but yah, I can pay someone who wants to help me (hand hold) set it up |
| 20:08.55 | Qwell | trimi`: neither |
| 20:08.56 | Dabian | Qwell : asterisk -r ? |
| 20:08.57 | Qwell | both |
| 20:09.00 | Qwell | Dabian: yes |
| 20:09.05 | Dabian | ok |
| 20:09.10 | DoktorGreg | Qwell, pm me email |
| 20:09.14 | Qwell | trimi`: either way, you need to upgrade |
| 20:09.25 | trimi` | im begginer |
| 20:10.01 | Dabian | root@OpenWrt:~# asterisk -r |
| 20:10.01 | Dabian | Unable to connect to remote asterisk |
| 20:10.01 | trimi` | i downt want to affect my current config |
| 20:10.01 | Qwell | Dabian: Then it isn't running |
| 20:10.02 | Dabian | asterisk not running fo course |
| 20:10.02 | Qwell | trimi`: pay one of us, who don't like sunlight, to set it up |
| 20:10.17 | trimi` | <Qwell> how much u want and what payment fo you accept |
| 20:10.37 | Qwell | paypal is always good - and it depends on what's needed |
| 20:10.49 | trimi` | i cant pay paypal my country its not on the list |
| 20:10.54 | Corydon76-home | $125/hour to set up, $250/hour for stupid questions. Paypal works. |
| 20:11.01 | trimi` | and i need only upgrafe |
| 20:11.30 | Corydon76-home | Well, you could pay in advance |
| 20:11.36 | Dabian | Qwell : This must be clasical: |
| 20:11.38 | Dabian | ENABLE_ASTERISK="no" |
| 20:11.51 | Qwell | Dabian: yeah, init scripts worry me sometimes |
| 20:11.52 | Dabian | hehe |
| 20:11.58 | Qwell | people do stupid things occasionally... |
| 20:12.04 | Qwell | not you...heh |
| 20:12.06 | ljam | Qwell: honest mistake -- will get the DNS switched over to the right site |
| 20:12.07 | *** join/#asterisk SplasPood (n=jwb@brooklyn.paravolve.net) |
| 20:12.09 | Qwell | the people who make the script |
| 20:12.17 | ljam | Qwell: we don't have an IT guy -- we just have each other :) |
| 20:12.19 | Qwell | ljam: the dns is okay I think. I bet it's just a vhost problem |
| 20:12.26 | ljam | Qwell: well either way :) |
| 20:12.43 | Qwell | If there isn't an explicit match, apache will choose the first one in the list |
| 20:12.55 | Qwell | which in this case, appears to point to sokol & associates site |
| 20:13.16 | ljam | Qwell: actually, our site is different even from that one :) |
| 20:13.34 | Qwell | weird...well, that one is probably first in the list, regardless |
| 20:13.39 | Dabian | Jan 1 00:08:19 WARNING[2434]: Loading module chan_modem.so failed! |
| 20:13.53 | Qwell | Dabian: yes, remove chan_modem*.so |
| 20:13.56 | ljam | Qwell: agreed -- I notified steve of it |
| 20:13.58 | Qwell | Dabian: Those are no longer used |
| 20:14.10 | Dabian | ok |
| 20:14.15 | ljam | and it's not the 1st of jan :) |
| 20:14.20 | Dabian | hmm . seems I need to set the clock. |
| 20:14.24 | Qwell | ljam: That it isn't. :) |
| 20:14.33 | Dabian | hehe |
| 20:17.08 | ljam | ok... back to the ghost recon -- its sunday damnit :) |
| 20:17.16 | ljam | I'll work on stuff tomorrow.... |
| 20:17.25 | Qwell | ljam: tsk, tsk, tsk |
| 20:17.29 | Qwell | I'm disappointed in you. :P |
| 20:17.37 | ljam | I don't have the 16 hour a day work ethic some of you nutzo's have :D |
| 20:17.45 | ljam | said with the highest regard of course :) |
| 20:17.50 | Dabian | Jan 1 00:08:34 WARNING[2509]: File not found |
| 20:17.51 | Dabian | Jan 1 00:08:34 WARNING[2509]: Loading module chan_modem.so failed! |
| 20:17.51 | Qwell | 16...try 3 |
| 20:17.52 | Qwell | :p |
| 20:17.58 | timscott | haha |
| 20:18.02 | ljam | Qwell: pffft -- I don't believe that :) |
| 20:18.03 | timscott | Yep, I'm a definate 3'er. |
| 20:18.07 | Qwell | Dabian: rm /usr/lib/asterisk/modules/chan_modem*.so |
| 20:18.17 | Qwell | ljam: I'm the laziest SOB there is...heh |
| 20:18.20 | theorem_ | 3 ? |
| 20:18.22 | theorem_ | wtf |
| 20:18.23 | Qwell | ljam: at least, for the company I work for |
| 20:18.43 | Qwell | theorem_: if that |
| 20:18.45 | Flauto | theorem, it seems that there isn't any libcrypto for fedora core 5 |
| 20:18.50 | Dabian | Qwell : There is none. |
| 20:18.53 | Qwell | Flauto: Then it's called something else |
| 20:18.58 | Qwell | Dabian: It's picking it up from somewhere... |
| 20:19.13 | Qwell | Dabian: Check to see if it's trying to be loaded in modules.conf |
| 20:19.17 | Flauto | openssl? |
| 20:19.18 | Qwell | /etc/asterisk/modules.conf |
| 20:19.24 | Flauto | i hvae that installed |
| 20:19.24 | Dabian | ahh |
| 20:19.26 | Qwell | libcrypt? |
| 20:19.46 | Qwell | Dabian: If it's in there, just remove that/those line(s) |
| 20:19.52 | Dabian | noload => chan_modem.so |
| 20:20.07 | Dabian | and remove this line: chan_modem.so=yes |
| 20:20.12 | Dabian | right? |
| 20:20.17 | Qwell | yeah, true it |
| 20:20.19 | Qwell | try* |
| 20:20.45 | Flauto | qwell, searched libcrypt, still did not get anything |
| 20:21.08 | Dabian | Qwell : Much better |
| 20:21.19 | Dabian | Connected to Asterisk 1.0.10 currently running on OpenWrt (pid = 4498) |
| 20:21.20 | Dabian | OpenWrt*CLI> |
| 20:21.25 | Dabian | :-D |
| 20:21.29 | Dabian | Qwell : Thanks! :) |
| 20:22.03 | Dabian | (And asterisk managed to register!) |
| 20:22.50 | timscott | Can anyone here help me diagnose a problem with call parking? |
| 20:22.54 | Dabian | Jan 1 00:18:32 WARNING[4900]: file.c:475 ast_openstream: File demo-congrats does not exist in any format |
| 20:23.07 | Dabian | now I have trouble because its a small install, I guess. |
| 20:23.36 | timscott | The problem is that when I'm transferring a call from a SIP-device to a SIP-device (grandstream budgetone 100's) using extension "700", it doesn't play back the message that tells me where teh call was parked. |
| 20:23.39 | Dabian | /dev/mtdblock/4 2.2M 1.3M 940.0k 58% / |
| 20:23.48 | timscott | But, if I dial extension 701, there is someone there in the parking lot. |
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| 20:24.03 | Flauto | qwell, what is it possible that is called? |
| 20:24.15 | Qwell | Flauto: search for crypto |
| 20:24.22 | Dabian | (Aside from that, I only have /rom and a /tmp |
| 20:24.28 | timscott | That's only when parking another SIP-device inside the asterisk machine |
| 20:24.30 | Flauto | did it already |
| 20:24.33 | Flauto | noda |
| 20:24.36 | timscott | when parking outside callers, it plays the message. |
| 20:25.50 | salaud | I am having trouble again with IAX channels and DTMF. From a pots phone and coming across my PSTN gateway provider, I send DTMF in a context and I can verify the DTMF events coming across (IAX2 debug) BUT asterisk doesn't respond to it. The call doesn't move to the next extension |
| 20:26.30 | Qwell | salaud: how is your dialplan setup? |
| 20:26.34 | salaud | If I call from a SIP phone through the PSTN gateway provider, it works... I assume because it's all messages and no DTMF tone interpretation... bizarre.. |
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| 20:27.12 | salaud | Qwell: using digit timeout, etc.. not wait exten |
| 20:27.21 | Dabian | I'll try installing asterisk sounds .. |
| 20:27.37 | salaud | Dabian: that's installed |
| 20:28.02 | salaud | The REALLY funny thing is that it worked on thursday... and nothing has changed... that I know about. bizarre |
| 20:28.27 | salaud | it COULD be the PSTN gateway provider... BUT, the DTMF events seem to be coming through with the right classes.. (ie the right digits received) |
| 20:28.46 | Dabian | salaud : I doubt? |
| 20:29.13 | salaud | ii asterisk-sound 1.2.4.dfsg-6-p sound files for asterisk |
| 20:29.19 | salaud | that's the output of dpkg -l |
| 20:29.21 | Dabian | ok |
| 20:29.47 | Qwell | salaud: Are you using asterisk 1.2.4 also? |
| 20:29.59 | salaud | Qwell: No... I'm using 1.2.6 compiled |
| 20:30.47 | salaud | Qwell: Does sounds have something to do with it? the DTMF events are coming across an IAX channel feed to me from the PSTN gateway provider |
| 20:31.02 | salaud | My end is not interpreting the actual tones at all.... |
| 20:31.48 | salaud | my asterisk is just supposed to receive the DTMF events and respond... |
| 20:32.59 | Qwell | no |
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| 20:33.22 | salaud | Qwell: no? |
| 20:33.26 | Qwell | no |
| 20:33.33 | salaud | Qwell: no to which part? |
| 20:33.44 | Qwell | the question you asked? |
| 20:34.17 | salaud | To this question: Does sounds have something to do with it? |
| 20:35.33 | salaud | looking deeper I can see a difference in the way the IAX conversation happens when working and when not |
| 20:36.06 | salaud | but... the why is still not know |
| 20:36.11 | salaud | s/know/known |
| 20:38.59 | salaud | I can see that there are 4 messages passed in IAX when it works Retry[000] and a DTMF event coming in with the right subclass |
| 20:39.21 | salaud | then an ACK, then another DTMF event with the right subclass with Retry[No] |
| 20:39.48 | salaud | then another ACK |
| 20:40.02 | salaud | when it's not working I get only the second two messages |
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| 20:44.23 | salaud | actually it appears that asterisk-sounds is being installed from the compiled version 1.2.6 also... so it's overwriting what I have from 1.2.4... |
| 20:45.20 | salaud | but... whatever... maybe this problem is just too difficult and just have to wait till it gets fixed somewhere upstream in the future and return to 1.0.x |
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| 20:51.06 | QbY | Anyone in the Voice Service Provider Business? If so, how do you control costs on your "unlimited" plans...... |
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| 20:52.58 | Dabian | The demo is operational? |
| 20:53.35 | timscott | QbY: by not offering them. |
| 20:54.33 | QbY | timscott: yeah, that's definitely ideal. but.. when the competition is doing it, we have no choice. |
| 20:55.16 | QbY | i'm just looking at inbound rates at 0.00825 and outbound at 0.015 -- and when i calculate a user like my mom, it would mean i'd lose money every month.. |
| 20:55.42 | QbY | so i didn't know if there was any tips/tricks for keeping the money. |
| 20:56.09 | salaud | Anyone know whether libiodbc or unixodbc is required (or better) with asterisk? |
| 20:56.28 | Qwell | QbY: You have a set hard limit, and lie out your ass when you say "unlimited" |
| 20:56.39 | timscott | QbY: you always have a choice. |
| 20:56.40 | Qwell | So if somebody goes over say 2,500 minutes a month, you shut them off |
| 20:56.57 | timscott | Our company chooses not to lie, so we don't offer unlimited plans. Fair enough. |
| 20:57.07 | timscott | :/ |
| 20:57.57 | QbY | Qwell. Ok.. I figured that's what most were doing. |
| 20:58.15 | QbY | So, are our rates of 0.00825 and 0.015 decent? or should we search for cheaper.. |
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| 20:58.39 | timscott | what? |
| 20:58.46 | theorem_ | I swear I saw .002 but .. I can't verify and could be off by a zero |
| 20:58.47 | timscott | what is 0.00825...is that cents or dollars? |
| 20:58.59 | timscott | 0.015 cents per minute? dollars? |
| 20:59.04 | timscott | If that's cents, that's hella good... |
| 20:59.19 | salaud | 1.5 per minute is good |
| 20:59.26 | salaud | sign me up ;) |
| 20:59.41 | theorem_ | ObY - must be dollars right ? |
| 20:59.42 | QbY | timscott 1.5 cents /min |
| 20:59.48 | QbY | theorem ..yeah |
| 21:00.00 | timscott | you could definately do better if you're buying bulk. |
| 21:00.11 | QbY | buy from whom though? |
| 21:00.21 | timscott | well |
| 21:00.53 | QbY | only Level3 has DIDs in my area, so i'm having to buy from a reseller of theirs.. |
| 21:00.57 | timscott | if you were pushing 1 Tb+ of voice bandwidth monthly, I'm sure you could get less than 1.3 cents a minute. |
| 21:01.07 | timscott | Actually, I know for a fact you could. |
| 21:01.09 | theorem_ | tb .. damn .. |
| 21:01.15 | QbY | yeah tb.. dman. |
| 21:01.25 | QbY | i doubt we'd be moving that much |
| 21:01.29 | salaud | I'd like to find 1.5 cents a minute... anyone know who offers that? |
| 21:01.39 | theorem_ | Oby does |
| 21:01.40 | timscott | I know there are certain backbone providers in my area that can offer about 1.1 cents a minute for putting though 10tb+ monthly |
| 21:01.48 | timscott | That's the best I know of, though. |
| 21:01.53 | timscott | At least in my area |
| 21:01.55 | QbY | ah |
| 21:01.57 | salaud | We're stuck at like 2.9cents or sowhere abouts |
| 21:01.59 | Cybertoy | QbY, I think VoipJet has US termination for 1.3 c per minute |
| 21:02.05 | timscott | ehhhh |
| 21:02.10 | timscott | Don't build a business on Voipjet |
| 21:02.15 | salaud | VoipJet... yeah... outbound only |
| 21:02.20 | timscott | Outbound only. |
| 21:02.21 | Cybertoy | no .. but if they can do it others can as well |
| 21:02.32 | timscott | Sure, they are great for a consumer, but you'd better have some backup carrier |
| 21:02.36 | QbY | i'm going to use Level3.. I learned about going to the cheapest before.. |
| 21:02.45 | timscott | Yeah, exactly QbY. |
| 21:02.52 | QbY | I'm going to use Level3 and maybe two or more for termination |
| 21:03.01 | Cybertoy | voxee at 1.1 ... |
| 21:03.03 | QbY | but i can't find anyone cheaper.. |
| 21:03.11 | Cybertoy | but you probably have the same reservations |
| 21:03.15 | QbY | i can't find anyone cheaper--who's name i've heard before |
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| 21:03.57 | theorem_ | get a different outbound and inbound carrier ? |
| 21:04.08 | theorem_ | can you do that ? any cost savings ? |
| 21:04.09 | QbY | well i can only have one inbound carrier |
| 21:04.23 | QbY | you can use anyone for outbound.. |
| 21:04.35 | QbY | i'm going to route out through whomever i find cost less |
| 21:05.44 | QbY | Cybertoy.. Is this Voxee reliable? good quality? |
| 21:06.10 | Cybertoy | QbY, I only use it occasionally ... so I'm bad reference... the times I used it it worked and quality was good... |
| 21:06.37 | Cybertoy | QbY, it's like voipjet .. so pay as you go ... just try it .. if it doesn't work out you lost 10 bucks... :) |
| 21:06.50 | Cybertoy | or $5 |
| 21:06.53 | salaud | Anyone found a cheaper Inbound carrier that does IAX than 2.X cents a minute? |
| 21:07.11 | zoa | dont go for the cheapest |
| 21:07.14 | Qwell | salaud: I can give you 1.99c/min |
| 21:07.16 | zoa | you will regret it |
| 21:07.24 | zoa | especially for inbound |
| 21:07.28 | QbY | I used Gafachi once.. They still have $18 of my $20 initial fee |
| 21:07.30 | QbY | it was horrid |
| 21:07.36 | salaud | zoa: This is true... |
| 21:08.05 | Qwell | salaud: I was joking, of course |
| 21:08.13 | *** join/#asterisk icyfire0573 (n=icyfire@u1016342.ul.warwick.net) |
| 21:08.14 | salaud | Qwell: ahh... I see |
| 21:08.15 | Qwell | I'd just resell you asterlink service, or something :p |
| 21:08.17 | robl^ | I use TelIAX and NuFone here almost exceluively... though my home number is still through GalaxyVoice (SIP) for the past couple years |
| 21:08.57 | salaud | Qwell: is asterlink cheap inbound? |
| 21:09.03 | Qwell | 2c/min |
| 21:09.12 | salaud | salaud: is it crappy? |
| 21:09.14 | Qwell | no |
| 21:09.47 | salaud | Qwell: ok... |
| 21:09.50 | QbY | Hrmm.. This TellIax site has a term I feel we will be using.. "Softcap" |
| 21:10.26 | salaud | I need to find another inbound provider (for testing) anyway... We are using junction networks currently |
| 21:11.14 | salaud | I wish the PSTN were smart enough to be able to provision two inbound carriers for the same DID |
| 21:11.35 | robl^ | I use the TelIAX pay as you go plan |
| 21:12.24 | *** join/#asterisk Flauto (n=zhao@adsl-75-3-187-145.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) |
| 21:12.44 | Flauto | this fedora core 5 is a lot of work |
| 21:12.52 | QbY | so, while i'm so worried about blowing my budget on "unlimited" plans.. Does anyone actually know what the average residential usage is? |
| 21:12.59 | Flauto | now, i finally compiled asterisk |
| 21:13.33 | Flauto | it seems that core 5 does not come with mp3 support |
| 21:13.34 | robl^ | my average home usage is about 600-800 mins a month... sometimes less.. |
| 21:13.48 | Qwell | I use about 20min/month |
| 21:13.50 | Cybertoy | QbY, my wife averages about 1200 per month ... but all of these are international to Switzerland and Brazil. |
| 21:14.10 | Qwell | QbY: Here's the thing... |
| 21:14.13 | Qwell | can I be frank? |
| 21:14.16 | Cybertoy | I guess if she were american then those 1200 minutes were to the states. |
| 21:14.21 | Qwell | well, I'm gonna be anyways |
| 21:14.26 | Qwell | If you have to ask these questions... |
| 21:14.28 | Qwell | you WILL fail. |
| 21:14.43 | QbY | Qwell. Thanks, for your honesty.. |
| 21:15.10 | Qwell | look at all of these fly-by-night providers |
| 21:15.13 | QbY | Thing is, its not a matter of pass or fail, its a matter of marketing to keep the money going |
| 21:15.15 | Qwell | They die in less than a year |
| 21:15.28 | Qwell | QbY: If you have poor service, you'll have no customers |
| 21:15.37 | QbY | Qwell.. WE are a cable company.. With thousands of customers, we just want to roll out a product that will make us money from the start. |
| 21:15.39 | Qwell | If you have to ask these questions, it means you'll have poor service. |
| 21:16.01 | Qwell | that does help, but only so much |
| 21:16.02 | QbY | Qwell.. I think you are making too many assumptions.. |
| 21:16.14 | Qwell | QbY: I make assumptions all the time |
| 21:16.18 | Qwell | and I'm usually right. :P |
| 21:16.56 | QbY | Well, I think we've made about the best decisions we can make. We started out paying $25/month for DIDs.. And now we are about to execute a contract for $0.75/each |
| 21:16.57 | Cybertoy | qby, if you have thousands of customers then issue an RFI .. I'd be very surprised if you can't go cheaper than voxee or voipjet ... |
| 21:17.26 | Qwell | Cybertoy: RFI? |
| 21:17.33 | Qwell | request for..? |
| 21:17.38 | QbY | Information |
| 21:17.43 | Cybertoy | yep .... RFI - request for Information ... and after that you do the RFP |
| 21:17.45 | Qwell | yes, of course |
| 21:18.24 | Cybertoy | if voxee.com can advertise 1.1 c per minute then you should be able to get a cheaper rate with any of the big telcos... |
| 21:18.57 | QbY | true.. but, wouldn't that require colocation? verizon is a prick to us.. |
| 21:19.26 | Cybertoy | that's why you do the RFI ... you ask them for information on what they will bid for. |
| 21:20.35 | Cybertoy | I work for a large corporation and we recently investigated a dark fiber path ... all the large corporations only want to offer managed fiber... smaller companies offered dark fiber... and once you take that info back to the large ones they give in. |
| 21:20.46 | Cybertoy | that's probably what verizon is doing to you ... |
| 21:21.01 | QbY | cyber.. well that's like verizon wanted $22,000/month for our OC3 |
| 21:21.05 | mogorman | how you gonna pass data if the light is off........... |
| 21:21.09 | QbY | then i found XO would do it for $15,00 |
| 21:21.10 | Cybertoy | they only want to offer with CoLo ... if you show them other's offer without then they might change their mind ... |
| 21:21.16 | Cybertoy | at the end of the day it's about who wants your money. |
| 21:21.23 | QbY | true. |
| 21:21.35 | QbY | now, we are getting on OC3 for $12k |
| 21:21.36 | Cybertoy | get a telecom sourcing professional on the case for that. |
| 21:23.47 | *** part/#asterisk tsume (n=tsume@zanshin.tsumelabs.com) |
| 21:31.01 | docelmo | I can give you a cheaper rate over public internet |
| 21:35.11 | docelmo | With no commitments its $0.009/minute 6/6 rounding.. |
| 21:35.32 | QbY | interesting.. company? |
| 21:35.49 | *** join/#asterisk Gunnar (n=gunnar@101.Red-80-24-171.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 21:36.23 | docelmo | If your looking for carrier grade this isnt it. We offer carrier grade but not on this platform. The website is http://www.plainvoip.com |
| 21:37.40 | docelmo | We have carrier solutions with some commitments |
| 21:37.47 | QbY | committments are? |
| 21:37.54 | docelmo | 50K + |
| 21:38.06 | file[laptop] | please don't advertise in here |
| 21:38.18 | *** join/#asterisk techman97_andy (n=me@70-98-31-249.dsl1.rsm.mn.frontiernet.net) |
| 21:38.20 | Qwell | file[laptop]: omg! |
| 21:38.21 | docelmo | file you meanie.. :) |
| 21:38.28 | docelmo | :P |
| 21:38.31 | Qwell | file[laptop]: not even qwellvoip.com?! |
| 21:38.43 | file[laptop] | Qwell: omg like isn't that a company with lots of fraud?!? |
| 21:38.48 | Qwell | file[laptop]: tons! |
| 21:38.56 | *** join/#asterisk Flauto (n=zhao@adsl-75-3-187-145.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) |
| 21:38.56 | mitcheloc | qwellvoip.com: server not found |
| 21:39.02 | techman97_andy | hey everyone - would there be any reason why I cannot successfully register a SIP device on an Asterisk box if they're on different subnets? |
| 21:39.03 | mitcheloc | ;) |
| 21:39.16 | Qwell | mitcheloc: I assure you, it's there. It's just down...for...umm...maintenance |
| 21:39.30 | Qwell | it'll be back up Real Soon(tm) now |
| 21:40.14 | Flauto | anyone here is using fedora core 5 |
| 21:41.05 | Cybertoy | I am |
| 21:43.01 | Flauto | cybertoy, did you have probelm compileing asterisk-addons |
| 21:44.04 | Flauto | it is shoing format_mp3.o error |
| 21:44.13 | Cybertoy | uhm ... sry.. I just noticed that my asterisk runs on another box and that's CentOS... |
| 21:44.14 | Cybertoy | sry. |
| 21:44.29 | Cybertoy | and the fedora core 5 asterisk I never compiled the addons. |
| 21:46.41 | Qwell | Flauto: yes |
| 21:46.46 | Qwell | Flauto: It's currently hosed |
| 21:47.16 | Qwell | I *guess* I could fix it... |
| 21:47.53 | Qwell | give me 5 minutes |
| 21:49.39 | Qwell | actually, no |
| 21:50.16 | Qwell | There are quite a few changes...somebody else will have to do it. I don't feel like getting that deep into the format code yes :p |
| 21:50.24 | Qwell | yet* |
| 21:51.12 | znoG | anyone use fonosip.com? |
| 21:51.36 | Flauto | what is the problem |
| 21:51.45 | Flauto | i was trying to install mp3 support |
| 21:51.51 | Flauto | but it still does nto work |
| 21:52.00 | Qwell | Flauto: There were some changes in svn trunk recently, that break old format modules |
| 21:52.05 | Qwell | format_mp3 hasn't been updated yet |
| 21:52.09 | Qwell | You can do one of two things... |
| 21:52.14 | Qwell | 1) wait |
| 21:52.20 | Flauto | haha |
| 21:52.22 | Flauto | good one |
| 21:52.25 | Qwell | 2) get an old version of svn trunk (before r17243) |
| 21:52.26 | Flauto | next? |
| 21:52.26 | znoG | 2) use mpg123 |
| 21:52.31 | znoG | err 3) |
| 21:52.32 | znoG | :) |
| 21:52.41 | Qwell | znoG: doesn't help you, in things like Playback() |
| 21:53.16 | Qwell | Flauto: from the asterisk source dir, do - svn up -r17342 |
| 21:53.17 | Flauto | you guys are funny |
| 21:53.25 | Qwell | no |
| 21:53.27 | Qwell | Flauto: from the asterisk source dir, do - svn up -r17242 |
| 21:53.35 | Qwell | That one. :p |
| 21:54.01 | znoG | playback of MP3s hey... |
| 21:54.06 | Flauto | i need to get just that addons or the whole thing |
| 21:54.31 | *** join/#asterisk sergeus (n=s@195.112.98.13) |
| 21:54.49 | Qwell | Flauto: Only asterisk, not asterisk-addons |
| 21:54.56 | Flauto | okay |
| 21:54.58 | Flauto | got it |
| 21:55.08 | Qwell | recompile asterisk, then compile asterisk-addons |
| 21:55.10 | Flauto | i need to remove the modules first |
| 21:55.18 | Qwell | yeah, it would be a very good idea. |
| 21:55.19 | Flauto | download the 17262 |
| 21:55.24 | Qwell | rm -f /usr/lib/asterisk/modules/* |
| 21:55.38 | Qwell | no, 17242 |
| 21:55.49 | Qwell | it MUST be less than 17243... |
| 21:56.15 | grem_lin | Hi, when I dial 555 I'm trying to get asterisk to hangup my call with it - then dial up a number and do some other things, so I tell it to check for 555 then then hangup, then check to see if it's hungup (by using h) - but it doesn't hangup and bridges the calls.. has anybody got any idea of what i need to do to make this work? Thanks |
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| 21:56.58 | Qwell | grem_lin: You could write an AGI to drop a call file, or something |
| 21:57.50 | Cybertoy | grem_lin, I do something similar... I use Congestion prior to the Hangup command. |
| 21:58.02 | Qwell | Cybertoy: That's a hack :p |
| 21:58.11 | grem_lin | Ah right cool, I'll give it a go - thanks Qwell and Cybertoy |
| 21:58.12 | Qwell | once you hit h, you should die, not start a new call |
| 21:58.17 | Flauto | svn up -17242 |
| 21:58.21 | Cybertoy | then in the h exten I create a file that I then copy to /var/spool/asterisk/outgoing ... |
| 21:58.24 | Flauto | or |
| 21:58.24 | Qwell | Flauto: -r17242 |
| 21:58.31 | Flauto | oh |
| 21:58.31 | Cybertoy | Qwell, and it's a complete hack .. but works... :) |
| 21:58.42 | Qwell | Cybertoy: No, if you drop a call file, it's fine...not so hackish :p |
| 21:59.44 | Flauto | svn up -r17342 |
| 21:59.48 | Qwell | 242 |
| 21:59.59 | Flauto | okay |
| 22:00.12 | Flauto | but it says skipped "." |
| 22:00.23 | Qwell | are you in the asterisk source dir? |
| 22:00.32 | Flauto | yes |
| 22:00.36 | Flauto | oh |
| 22:00.37 | Flauto | wait |
| 22:00.38 | Flauto | soffy |
| 22:01.50 | Flauto | got it |
| 22:02.23 | Flauto | make clean now |
| 22:02.52 | Flauto | you siad the first option is to wait |
| 22:02.59 | Qwell | until somebody fixes it |
| 22:03.01 | Flauto | wait for someone to fix it? |
| 22:03.05 | Flauto | hehe |
| 22:03.10 | Flauto | that is the best one |
| 22:03.11 | Flauto | haha |
| 22:03.14 | Flauto | i like that one |
| 22:03.18 | Flauto | i chose the second |
| 22:03.34 | Qwell | 3) pay somebody to fix it faster |
| 22:04.04 | Flauto | that is a good one too but i still like the first one better |
| 22:04.06 | Flauto | hehe |
| 22:04.26 | *** join/#asterisk VoIPMasta (n=John@201.160.17.234.cableonline.com.mx) |
| 22:04.32 | Flauto | it seems fedora has more issues comiling asterisk |
| 22:04.39 | *** join/#asterisk Shoragan (n=shoragan@d072.apm.etc.tu-bs.de) |
| 22:04.47 | Flauto | i was using mandriva and it was pretty easy |
| 22:05.09 | Flauto | i just wanted to see how fedora looks like |
| 22:07.58 | *** join/#asterisk Dovid (n=Dovid@89-138-40-222.bb.netvision.net.il) |
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| 22:14.56 | Flauto | qwell, it works now |
| 22:15.02 | Flauto | i went back to 17242 |
| 22:15.06 | Qwell | good |
| 22:15.51 | grem_lin | Hrm, I've created my file in /var/spool/asterisk/outgoing but it doesn't seem to be doing anything - would I need to make any other configuration changes to use this feature? (sorry, I'm a noob at this) All your help is greatly appreciated :) |
| 22:15.58 | *** join/#asterisk [Mojo] (n=mojojojo@200-122-80-171.cab.prima.net.ar) |
| 22:17.07 | Cybertoy | grem_lin, paste the file to pastebin.ca to take a look |
| 22:17.37 | Cybertoy | also whatever you see on the asterisk console |
| 22:18.57 | *** join/#asterisk PBX_Jim (n=PBX_Jim@ny-amherst-C4-1-bg2a-3-252.bflony.adelphia.net) |
| 22:19.33 | grem_lin | Cybertoy, http://pastebin.ca/48788 (I see nothing on the console) |
| 22:19.34 | Flauto | tried to start asterisk but it did not work |
| 22:19.35 | Flauto | haha |
| 22:19.42 | Flauto | problem after proble |
| 22:19.45 | *** join/#asterisk MoutaPT (n=MoutaPT@85.139.183.36) |
| 22:20.07 | *** join/#asterisk andu (n=andu@S0106000476ee2cfe.cg.shawcable.net) |
| 22:20.47 | MoutaPT | " Client non-INVITE transaction[trying]: Time out " - Sjphone when Hanging up calls, * 1.2.5 any tip what this means? |
| 22:21.17 | Flauto | qwell, it says command not found |
| 22:21.19 | PBX_Jim | anyone point me to info on how to direct certain Zap Lines to a certain IVR ? Trying to run 2 businesses off one server |
| 22:22.06 | MoutaPT | PBX_JIM you probably need to route it based on DDI |
| 22:22.17 | Cybertoy | grem_lin, and in your extensions.conf in context outgoing exten 6693 .. what does it say there? |
| 22:22.22 | Dovid | PBX_Jim: you point them to diffrent context's |
| 22:22.55 | *** join/#asterisk jofre (n=jofre@200.138.204.23) |
| 22:23.40 | PBX_Jim | ok... I have a Rhino Channel Bank so I have lines 1-24.. i can specify 1-5 and 6-24 to diffrent contexts ? |
| 22:23.49 | Dovid | pbx: yes |
| 22:24.11 | PBX_Jim | ok.... I'll look for info on how to do that .. thanks |
| 22:24.13 | andu | Hello, I'm having a strange audio problem with when I make a call from one box no another one that connects to the PSTN via a PRI; outbound voice quality is very bad. Anyone ever run into something like this ? |
| 22:24.21 | grem_lin | 6693,1,Playback(tt-monkeys) | 6693,2,Hangup |
| 22:26.09 | Cybertoy | grem_lin, the file in /var/spool/asterisk/outoing ... |
| 22:26.12 | Cybertoy | is it still there? |
| 22:26.16 | grem_lin | Yep |
| 22:26.41 | andu | It doens't look like a bandwidth issue as IP calls are fine; it's just when I send them to the second box and the out the PRI that this happens; both boxes are local |
| 22:27.51 | Cybertoy | grem_lin, hmm... and you see nothing on the asterisk console .. dunno what might be the problem 'cause even if the syntax is not correct asterisk should pick the file up and delete it. |
| 22:28.09 | Cybertoy | grem_lin, you sure about that path /var/spool/asterisk/outgoing ... and not /var/lib/asterisk or so... |
| 22:28.17 | Cybertoy | can't think of anything else. |
| 22:28.33 | Cybertoy | permission problem? are you running asterisk as root? |
| 22:28.56 | grem_lin | Yeah, asterisk runs as root |
| 22:29.23 | PBX_Jim | so is this a good example: signalling=fxo_ks |
| 22:29.23 | PBX_Jim | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:29.23 | PBX_Jim | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:29.23 | PBX_Jim | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:29.32 | Flauto | cybertoy, i have problem to start asterisk under fedora core 5 |
| 22:30.07 | Cybertoy | flauto, it compiled ok? |
| 22:30.10 | Flauto | when i type asterisk -vvvvvcg |
| 22:30.12 | Flauto | yes |
| 22:30.19 | Flauto | it compiled fine |
| 22:31.04 | grem_lin | Ahh well, I'm going to have to head off now - thanks for pointing me in the right direction Cybertoy |
| 22:31.17 | Cybertoy | no prob |
| 22:31.34 | tainted- | ~seen aginamu |
| 22:31.37 | jbot | aginamu <n=AgiNamu@8.7.80.197> was last seen on IRC in channel #asterisk, 51d 23h 4m 35s ago, saying: 'Drew__ man, they're already ahead of me.'. |
| 22:32.17 | PBX_Jim | Dovid did you see the example I posted .... Does that lok like the right Idea |
| 22:32.17 | Dovid | ~seen me |
| 22:32.19 | jbot | me <i=TranceDu@dD5773D1D.access.telenet.be> was last seen on IRC in channel #kde, 22d 23h 21m 52s ago, saying: 'canllaith did i ever told you how stupid you are?'. |
| 22:32.27 | Dovid | pbx i didnt |
| 22:32.37 | Dovid | ~seen dovid |
| 22:32.38 | jbot | dovid is currently on #asterisk (24m 40s). Has said a total of 5 messages. Is idling for 1s, last said: '~seen dovid'. |
| 22:32.48 | PBX_Jim | ok.... here it is |
| 22:32.50 | PBX_Jim | signalling=fxo_ks |
| 22:32.50 | PBX_Jim | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:32.50 | PBX_Jim | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:32.50 | PBX_Jim | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:33.08 | Dovid | i dont know zaptel to well |
| 22:33.15 | Dovid | i do voip only boxes |
| 22:33.24 | Dovid | ok |
| 22:33.32 | Dovid | context= reception |
| 22:33.39 | Dovid | what do u have in context reception ? |
| 22:33.44 | Dovid | put it in pastebin.com |
| 22:35.10 | MoutaPT | PBX_Jim i think that your point is the line group=1 for 1-15 channel and group2 16-30 |
| 22:35.36 | PBX_Jim | I found this on the wiki and it seems like the right idea |
| 22:35.36 | PBX_Jim | can I post a URL here ? |
| 22:36.21 | MoutaPT | each group with a context ... |
| 22:37.00 | PBX_Jim | o... I just am wondering where I then or How I then point the context to an IVR |
| 22:37.28 | MoutaPT | then in your extensions.conf where you define your two different contexts |
| 22:37.40 | MoutaPT | you write your two diferent IVRs |
| 22:38.34 | Dovid | u put the IVR in the context |
| 22:39.53 | MoutaPT | " Client non-INVITE transaction[trying]: Time out " - Sjphone when Hanging up calls, * 1.2.5 any tip what this means? |
| 22:40.04 | PBX_Jim | ok.. I think I have the Idea... I will do some searching .. Thanks for the help! |
| 22:40.37 | Dovid | good luck |
| 22:41.10 | PBX_Jim | right on.... I made my day getting the Rhino Channel bank going yesterday :) |
| 22:43.13 | *** join/#asterisk Flauto (n=zhao@adsl-75-3-187-145.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) |
| 22:43.29 | Flauto | this fedora core 5 is pissing me off |
| 22:43.31 | Flauto | hehe |
| 22:44.12 | w32 | hey what am I doing wrong here ? http://w32.pastebin.com/650353 |
| 22:44.20 | Cybertoy | Flauto, like I said.. I use fedora core 5 ... however my asterisk runs on a different box with centos .. I only had basic asterisk running under core5 as a backup for a while without the addons. |
| 22:44.58 | Flauto | but you did not have problems running it |
| 22:45.11 | Cybertoy | no .. what's the error you're getting? |
| 22:45.17 | Flauto | which distro is working the best with asterisk |
| 22:45.32 | *** join/#asterisk ApEtc (i=apetc@ip70-162-216-7.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 22:45.35 | Flauto | i can not even start asterisk |
| 22:45.43 | w32 | Flauto: many say centos |
| 22:45.48 | timscott | I would suggest Annvix |
| 22:45.50 | timscott | www.annvix.org |
| 22:46.01 | w32 | I'm using debian sarge or trying to |
| 22:46.01 | timscott | very low profile, good on memory. |
| 22:46.13 | timscott | CentOS is also good stuff |
| 22:46.26 | Flauto | i will check out them |
| 22:46.32 | Flauto | i have two computers now |
| 22:46.36 | Flauto | so i can play with them |
| 22:47.26 | w32 | annvix huh ? you got asterisk running on that ? |
| 22:47.41 | *** join/#asterisk ryguillian (n=ryguilli@c-24-12-98-36.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 22:47.44 | timscott | yes. |
| 22:47.51 | timscott | I actually use Annvix on all my asterisk machines at work |
| 22:47.58 | ryguillian | Where's Mark? |
| 22:48.20 | w32 | I may jsut give it a try- this debian box is giving me a fantastic headache |
| 22:48.28 | timscott | one thing, though |
| 22:48.38 | timscott | Annvix uses "runit" for supervised services |
| 22:48.42 | timscott | not regular init |
| 22:48.45 | timscott | which puts some people off |
| 22:48.52 | w32 | why ? |
| 22:49.08 | w32 | not so standard |
| 22:49.11 | timscott | because some people like init scripts, I dunno...that's just what I've found |
| 22:49.22 | w32 | that makes sense |
| 22:49.31 | timscott | annvix is very good on memory, has integrated process supervision |
| 22:49.35 | timscott | it's good for asterisk IMHO |
| 22:49.37 | timscott | no GUI, though |
| 22:49.43 | timscott | and a small package base are the turn-offs |
| 22:49.50 | timscott | If you're going to use it |
| 22:49.57 | timscott | I'd recommend compiling a vanilla monolithic kernel |
| 22:49.59 | timscott | not using the default |
| 22:50.29 | w32 | my debian boxes don't have a gui either, I usually build them from scratch and add what I need as I go |
| 22:51.14 | timscott | You'll get probably 10% better performance from compiling a monolithic kernel |
| 22:51.19 | w32 | small package base would turn me off a bit I guess but if you can get asterisk running on it-who cares |
| 22:51.46 | timscott | it's got everything you need |
| 22:52.03 | timscott | but, if you aren't compiling a monolithic kernel, and you plan to use 2.6.x, you'll need rusty's module-init-tools |
| 22:52.18 | w32 | 10% is marginal for as few users as I have... |
| 22:52.32 | timscott | that's pre-optimization |
| 22:53.00 | w32 | sure I understand it but there's only 3 of us |
| 22:53.01 | timscott | whatever |
| 22:53.04 | timscott | tell me how it works out |
| 22:53.08 | timscott | oh haha I see :) |
| 22:53.28 | w32 | :) |
| 22:53.57 | w32 | we could run x on the box a prolly not notice |
| 22:54.38 | w32 | I'm just paranoid so I'd rather put it on the box myself rather then just a general install |
| 22:55.00 | w32 | makes it easier to maintain and learn how things work that way too |
| 22:56.15 | w32 | did you see the cvs error i posted ? |
| 22:56.27 | w32 | http://w32.pastebin.com/650353 |
| 23:02.15 | [av]bani | http://www.monstercables.com/productPage.asp?pin=17 |
| 23:02.39 | timscott | now I have |
| 23:02.42 | timscott | I have no idea what that is, though |
| 23:03.02 | Qwell | Tell me that doesn't say $2,500 for 10 ft? |
| 23:03.34 | timscott | it had better be infinibad++++++ for that price |
| 23:03.47 | [av]bani | Qwell: it does |
| 23:03.56 | Qwell | wtf? |
| 23:04.08 | Dovid | ouch |
| 23:04.11 | Dovid | pretty pricey |
| 23:04.14 | [av]bani | great scam |
| 23:04.30 | [av]bani | anyone who buys that shit is totally gullible and deserves to get ripped off |
| 23:04.39 | Dovid | :) |
| 23:05.07 | Qwell | upgrade your whole system, and go digital |
| 23:07.22 | ariel_ | [av]bani, well people everywhere think that they make great cables. I would never think that those cables would be worth the money. But life is stange |
| 23:07.38 | DoktorGreg | Oh, I just got the nice noise cancelled power cords for my stereo, I only could afford the discount $300 set though |
| 23:07.45 | Qwell | hell, I almost cried when I saw their $200 power strip |
| 23:07.57 | Qwell | noise cancelled power cords? |
| 23:08.05 | Dabian | [av]bani : Sell them the eiffel tower next. ;-) |
| 23:08.06 | DoktorGreg | yah! |
| 23:08.27 | timscott | it does |
| 23:08.34 | timscott | Someone doesn't understand sound dynamics! |
| 23:08.37 | Qwell | at what, .00005 decibels? |
| 23:08.55 | timscott | EVERY DECIBAL COUNTS |
| 23:08.59 | timscott | Ha ha. |
| 23:09.02 | timscott | I'm just kidding. |
| 23:09.15 | ariel_ | I setup an camera and a setup for a customer with zoneminder. The person has all his cables from monster... He had money to burn. |
| 23:09.19 | Cybertoy | are you listening with a spectrum analyzer? |
| 23:09.42 | ariel_ | we can't hear the difference belive me. |
| 23:09.49 | [av]bani | ariel_: no way a $2500 cable will sound any better than a $2 frayed lamp cord |
| 23:09.57 | Qwell | lamp cord...heh |
| 23:09.58 | timscott | hahaha |
| 23:10.01 | timscott | "lamp cord" |
| 23:10.13 | Qwell | somebody has done this before |
| 23:10.26 | [av]bani | that's like saying, maxell floppy disks playback MP3s with better audio fidelity than sony floppy disks |
| 23:10.34 | DoktorGreg | Its like using a mac, some people just need that extra level of sophistication |
| 23:10.36 | ariel_ | [av]bani, no but it's not going to sound better then the 10 dollar normal one |
| 23:10.39 | Qwell | [av]bani: floppy disks aren't analog! |
| 23:10.40 | timscott | Macs are hot. |
| 23:10.50 | timscott | And sexy. |
| 23:10.50 | DoktorGreg | Well the macs are hot |
| 23:10.53 | [av]bani | Qwell: monstercable sell overpriced digital cable too |
| 23:10.59 | timscott | Zing! |
| 23:11.07 | [av]bani | Qwell: it's just an example of how retarded monstercable is |
| 23:11.11 | Qwell | indeed |
| 23:11.22 | DoktorGreg | I am gonna get a power book pro 17" as soon as it comes out |
| 23:11.24 | Qwell | I should totally buy monster cable rj45 |
| 23:11.46 | [av]bani | Qwell: i will sell you $5000 rj11 which will make your $50 phone sound as good as a $3000 one |
| 23:11.46 | timscott | You totally should buy me a beer with the money you would save from buying it at Best Buy. |
| 23:11.54 | Qwell | [av]bani: oh yeah? |
| 23:11.59 | DoktorGreg | then Im gonna get the win xp drivers |
| 23:12.06 | [av]bani | yeah totally |
| 23:12.06 | DoktorGreg | then im gonna format the hard drive |
| 23:12.16 | DoktorGreg | then im gonna install xp on it |
| 23:12.22 | Qwell | ...why? |
| 23:12.53 | [av]bani | Qwell: gimme dynamic blf! |
| 23:12.54 | DoktorGreg | havent you seen the benchmarks??? XP beats osx on virtually every benchmark |
| 23:13.00 | DoktorGreg | on mac hardware |
| 23:13.08 | timscott | ? |
| 23:13.12 | timscott | sad :( |
| 23:13.14 | Qwell | [av]bani: gimme blf! |
| 23:13.18 | [av]bani | :< |
| 23:13.29 | Qwell | go test my patch |
| 23:13.32 | [av]bani | i'm not even going to consider a macbook till they get rid of the cyclops mousebutton |
| 23:13.33 | timscott | Greg, are you shitting me, or are you serious? |
| 23:13.35 | Qwell | after I fix bugs, I'll work on features |
| 23:13.40 | DoktorGreg | totally serious |
| 23:13.46 | timscott | oof |
| 23:13.51 | DoktorGreg | on something by as much as 25% |
| 23:13.59 | timscott | I used to want a mac....when they ran on PPC. |
| 23:13.59 | [av]bani | until apple discovers this thing called "two buttons", it's a total non starter |
| 23:14.15 | Qwell | [av]bani: Where are my test results? |
| 23:14.22 | DoktorGreg | mac rumors |
| 23:14.25 | [av]bani | i'm in the middle of moving to a new job |
| 23:14.25 | DoktorGreg | the forum |
| 23:14.29 | [av]bani | my phone is packed up |
| 23:14.30 | DoktorGreg | its the end of the world over there |
| 23:14.31 | Qwell | pfft |
| 23:14.40 | timscott | Yeah, i'm moving to a new job too. |
| 23:14.44 | DoktorGreg | "How can this be" |
| 23:14.45 | Qwell | [av]bani: nc up some skinny packets. emulate it, boy! |
| 23:14.46 | timscott | I'm going to go work for MonstorCalbes |
| 23:14.50 | timscott | *cables |
| 23:15.02 | [av]bani | \o/ |
| 23:15.03 | Qwell | actually, you know what... Knowing what I do about skinny... |
| 23:15.10 | Qwell | I could totally write a skinny softphone |
| 23:15.15 | [av]bani | OMG ILLEGAL |
| 23:15.18 | Qwell | how hot would that be?! |
| 23:15.22 | timscott | not hot? |
| 23:15.22 | [av]bani | and er, why bother? |
| 23:15.26 | timscott | :/ |
| 23:15.27 | Qwell | dunno |
| 23:15.44 | Qwell | and yeah, cisco would be PISSED |
| 23:15.45 | timscott | I thought skinny has some sort of vulnerability thing that I-dont-really-know-what-Im-talking-about |
| 23:16.01 | [av]bani | Qwell: i've been told cisco is NOT HAPPY about asterisk running skinny |
| 23:16.06 | [av]bani | Qwell: they considered suing |
| 23:16.14 | DoktorGreg | I had a problem with a sipura 941 talking to a iaxPhone client |
| 23:16.15 | Qwell | pfft |
| 23:16.26 | Dabian | Qwell : Nc as in netcat? |
| 23:16.28 | Qwell | They can't sue. DMCA allows reverse engineering |
| 23:16.30 | Qwell | Dabian: indeed |
| 23:16.49 | Cybertoy | hmm.. but cisco releases sip firmware for their phones that works with asterisk? |
| 23:16.49 | [av]bani | Qwell: doesn't matter. cisco sued a security researcher by abusing the DMCA |
| 23:17.01 | Qwell | Cybertoy: they do |
| 23:17.03 | [av]bani | Qwell: the DMCA is a weapon |
| 23:17.11 | Qwell | it's also a defense.. |
| 23:17.16 | Cybertoy | Qwell, I know they do .. I have a 7970 and I'm using it with asterisk. |
| 23:17.16 | [av]bani | the sip firmware is totally neutered and nearly useless |
| 23:17.16 | Dabian | Is it true that ciscos run on Open Source / Free Software firmware? |
| 23:17.26 | [av]bani | Qwell: its a weak defense, almost always loses |
| 23:17.27 | Qwell | Dabian: no, heh, that's snom |
| 23:17.28 | [av]bani | 99% |
| 23:17.46 | [av]bani | snom uses linux kernel, that's it. |
| 23:17.55 | Qwell | yeah, that |
| 23:17.55 | Dabian | Qwell : Lemme check the thread .. |
| 23:17.57 | [av]bani | nothing about their phones is open source in any useful way |
| 23:18.10 | [av]bani | in fact they went to great lengths to lock them down |
| 23:18.23 | [av]bani | license keys :/ |
| 23:18.44 | DoktorGreg | um, i have two sipura phones that are working great with asterik |
| 23:19.08 | Dabian | skinny.conf i Asterisk |
| 23:19.11 | DoktorGreg | where i am having the problem is sipura 941 talking to iaxPhone client |
| 23:19.27 | DoktorGreg | take that back iaxComm |
| 23:19.38 | DoktorGreg | only on the iaxComm side |
| 23:19.46 | Qwell | Dabian: yeah, that's what I'm working on...chan_skinny |
| 23:19.48 | DoktorGreg | the sipura 941 user is distorted |
| 23:19.51 | Dabian | chan_sscp |
| 23:20.08 | Qwell | chan_sccp is going to become obsolete, very soon |
| 23:20.10 | [av]bani | chan_cccp |
| 23:20.27 | [av]bani | protocol of great republik |
| 23:20.29 | Qwell | That s loves to move, doesn't it? |
| 23:20.33 | DoktorGreg | is there a better phone than iaxComm? |
| 23:20.39 | DoktorGreg | for softphone? |
| 23:20.49 | Nivex | DoktorGreg: kiax, idefisk |
| 23:20.49 | Qwell | DoktorGreg: I've been using idefisk. It isn't open source, but it works well |
| 23:20.51 | Dabian | Is that firmware and/or open/free source/software for ciscos? |
| 23:21.01 | Qwell | Dabian: It isn't firmware... |
| 23:21.09 | *** join/#asterisk AlabamaStateCons (n=Idontlik@c-68-39-174-238.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 23:21.15 | Qwell | it's a channel driver for asterisk, that lets cisco phones talk to it |
| 23:21.27 | *** part/#asterisk AlabamaStateCons (n=Idontlik@c-68-39-174-238.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 23:21.46 | Qwell | anybody have a link to the most current SIP RFCs? |
| 23:22.02 | Qwell | SIP/RTP |
| 23:22.13 | Dabian | Qwell : I had the feeling that it wasn't really firmware. The guys in this forum means well, they gues I just wanna customize the phone a little, I guess.. |
| 23:22.33 | Qwell | Dabian: What forum? I can set them straight, maybe |
| 23:22.49 | Dabian | Qwell : If you skeak danish, yeah :) |
| 23:22.58 | Qwell | I don't skeak it, no |
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| 23:23.08 | [av]bani | in theory you could hack the firmware... it is just java |
| 23:23.18 | shido6 | ? |
| 23:23.21 | DoktorGreg | hate to be the corporate whore... but the sipura 941 is like my dream desk phone |
| 23:23.21 | Dabian | Qwell: I provided them this link: http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=PA168 |
| 23:23.30 | Qwell | [av]bani: probably wrapped in a proprietary package |
| 23:23.35 | DoktorGreg | it is the desk phone i have wanted all my life |
| 23:23.51 | Dabian | Qwell : They're pretty skilled with phones, but I don't think they're programmers. Not all of them anyhow. |
| 23:25.47 | *** join/#asterisk ManxPower (n=ewieling@69-2-85-41.wan.networktel.net) |
| 23:26.06 | ManxPower | I HAVE A HOTEL ROOM!!!!!!! |
| 23:26.13 | Qwell | congrats |
| 23:26.23 | tzanger | evening everyone |
| 23:26.27 | tzanger | ManxPower: congrats :-) |
| 23:26.28 | Qwell | ManxPower: travelling? |
| 23:26.41 | tzanger | ManxPower: you didn't tell them you were a Katrina victim, did you? |
| 23:26.51 | ManxPower | First time I could get a hotel room (for a reasonable price) anywhere near New Orleans since Katrina |
| 23:27.02 | Qwell | oh, to go home |
| 23:27.15 | ManxPower | Um, I'm never moving back, but I still have clients in the area |
| 23:27.17 | Dabian | Qwell : I think it was something [av]bani said the other night that got me searching .. about pa168x series having open source firmware. |
| 23:27.21 | Qwell | ManxPower: well, "home" |
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| 23:27.27 | Qwell | Dabian: yeah, it does |
| 23:27.44 | ManxPower | Qwell, I think the correct term is "giant cesspool of politics and corruption" |
| 23:27.45 | Dabian | Qwell : Personally I would think it would be quite a trill to customize a phone 100%. |
| 23:27.51 | Qwell | ManxPower: you should see this...I got this email a few days ago, and laughed my ass off |
| 23:28.08 | Qwell | ManxPower: http://uuoc.com/1427 |
| 23:28.34 | Dabian | Qwell "Well, if you press the 1 button twice, and then press 5, you have to type "*#*" also, to show the phone you really mean it!" :-P |
| 23:28.52 | Dovid | haha |
| 23:29.53 | Qwell | I always did want to swim to work...now I can |
| 23:29.54 | Dovid | Qwell: its a pretty demanding emai |
| 23:29.55 | Dabian | I could have a trill .. I remember when I translated an interpreter to danish .. the teacher was lost .. until I came by and "randomly" suggested he typed the commands in danish .. |
| 23:30.07 | Dabian | It was my luck I survived that day . ;-) |
| 23:30.48 | DoktorGreg | ick people actually use ASP.net still? |
| 23:30.56 | Qwell | DoktorGreg: sure, why not? |
| 23:31.11 | DoktorGreg | just weird |
| 23:31.15 | Dabian | DoktorGreg : Dunno about people .. "Who are those people, anyway?" |
| 23:31.15 | Dovid | asp sux |
| 23:31.23 | Dovid | asp.net was a big flop for microsoft |
| 23:31.27 | DoktorGreg | the LAMP stack seems dominant in my circle.. |
| 23:31.33 | Dovid | they wanted to yet again dominate the market |
| 23:31.33 | Dovid | hehe |
| 23:32.00 | Dabian | :) |
| 23:32.05 | Qwell | llpr > lamp |
| 23:32.05 | Qwell | heh |
| 23:32.06 | DoktorGreg | big world i guess:) |
| 23:32.16 | Qwell | </troll> |
| 23:32.24 | DoktorGreg | whats llpr? |
| 23:32.38 | Qwell | linux lighttpd postgresql ruby :P |
| 23:33.07 | DoktorGreg | again... maybe its my industry... |
| 23:33.14 | Qwell | I actually only use one of the above :p |
| 23:33.24 | DoktorGreg | but we do a lot of credit card processing... |
| 23:33.38 | DoktorGreg | and have to survive quarterly audits from credit card company |
| 23:33.50 | Dabian | Whats "serious" trolling? |
| 23:33.51 | DoktorGreg | I dont even think that is possible with windows as server |
| 23:34.01 | DoktorGreg | not for me anyhow... |
| 23:36.57 | DoktorGreg | seems like everyone in retail now days uses linux on servers and clients almost exclusively |
| 23:37.12 | *** part/#asterisk ryguillian (n=ryguilli@c-24-12-98-36.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 23:37.40 | DoktorGreg | for just the reason that... Its not really possible to have windows reliably survive a cc company audit... |
| 23:38.40 | DoktorGreg | dont get me wrong |
| 23:38.45 | DoktorGreg | its just... |
| 23:38.59 | DoktorGreg | you want your cash register to be pretty much used as a cash register and nothing else |
| 23:39.03 | Darwin35 | dont get you wrong but dont get you right |
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| 23:39.46 | Darwin35 | thats why you setup asterisk on its own server |
| 23:39.48 | DoktorGreg | 867 5309 enenenene |
| 23:39.52 | *** join/#asterisk PBXtech (n=nik@70.89.247.188) |
| 23:40.03 | DoktorGreg | I have it on its own server |
| 23:40.14 | DoktorGreg | wide open with a working trunk even! |
| 23:40.30 | DoktorGreg | I should really do someting about that |
| 23:40.43 | DoktorGreg | before i hook it to the pri line |
| 23:40.56 | PBXtech | is there a way to fork a call? so say i have a call that i want to jump to a process in another context for an application, BUT i need the call to actually continue down the existing context to complete the DIAL command..? |
| 23:41.31 | Darwin35 | yeah move to bsd and get a sangoma card |
| 23:41.33 | Darwin35 | lol |
| 23:41.37 | tzanger | PBXtech: how do you intend on doing that? |
| 23:41.41 | tzanger | you can only have audio from one app |
| 23:41.44 | DoktorGreg | sangoma? |
| 23:41.47 | PBXtech | thats whay i would like to know :) |
| 23:42.00 | tzanger | PBXtech: describe what it is supposed to do, maybe I can help then |
| 23:42.00 | PBXtech | i just want to spin of a process i dont care about the audio |
| 23:42.21 | tzanger | PBXtech: you might be able to do that with Local/ |
| 23:42.35 | tzanger | as in call comes in to [context1] s,1 |
| 23:43.02 | tzanger | s,1 does Dial(Local/s@fork1&Local/s@fork2) |
| 23:43.05 | DoktorGreg | anyone want to buy this 2FXS 2FXO thingie from me when i am done with it? |
| 23:43.14 | PBXtech | ohh good idea |
| 23:43.19 | DoktorGreg | the the digium one |
| 23:43.19 | PBXtech | let me try that |
| 23:43.35 | tzanger | [fork1] s,1 does System(ooga) and [fork2] s,1 does Dial(TECH/user@final_destinatioN) |
| 23:43.47 | *** join/#asterisk anonymouz666 (n=lynx@allende.redetaho.com.br) |
| 23:43.52 | tzanger | that's what I'm doing to send different Alert-Info headers to different SIP phones |
| 23:43.53 | PBXtech | perfect |
| 23:44.16 | tzanger | PBXtech: I'm not sure if it is or not, it's just an idea.. :-) So long as fork1 doesn't Answer() you might be ok |
| 23:44.19 | tzanger | I think |
| 23:44.33 | PBXtech | that works ill try it |
| 23:44.39 | Darwin35 | sangoma makes pri cards |
| 23:44.57 | DoktorGreg | should i get the sangoma or the digium pri card, and why? |
| 23:45.01 | Darwin35 | and quad pri cards |
| 23:45.14 | DoktorGreg | I am getting the 2xPRI card |
| 23:45.31 | DoktorGreg | I guess |
| 23:45.41 | DoktorGreg | why sangoma instead of digium? |
| 23:45.49 | asterboy | How do you get these two digit maps to co-exist in a Polycom sip.cfg? [2-9]xxxxxx|[2-9]xxxxxxxxx |
| 23:46.33 | DoktorGreg | each one gets its own line in the context |
| 23:46.40 | Sedorox | I need a pri card :/ |
| 23:46.49 | Darwin35 | pref choice |
| 23:46.50 | DoktorGreg | thousand bucks |
| 23:47.10 | Darwin35 | www.sangooma.com |
| 23:47.10 | asterboy | So <digitmap dialplan.digitmap="[2-9]11|0T|011xxx.T|[0-1][2-9]xxxxxxxxx|[2-9]xxxxxxxxx|[2-9]xxxxxx|[2-9]xxxT" dialplan. |
| 23:47.16 | asterboy | digitmap.timeOut="5 |
| 23:47.19 | DoktorGreg | I need a 2 port pri card |
| 23:47.30 | Qwell | DoktorGreg: Digium makes a two port |
| 23:47.41 | Darwin35 | the new sangooma rev d card has full echo cancelation |
| 23:47.44 | asterboy | and put another dialplan.digitmap= in sip.cfg |
| 23:47.45 | asterboy | ? |
| 23:47.56 | DoktorGreg | I know |
| 23:48.25 | anonymouz666 | Darwin35: and Digium does not have full echo cancelation? |
| 23:48.27 | DoktorGreg | I just hesitate whenever i am about to spend $1000 on a somewhat esoteric part... |
| 23:48.45 | tzanger | asterboy: how the HELL did you figure that out?? |
| 23:48.57 | DoktorGreg | like... Am i buying the right part? |
| 23:49.05 | DoktorGreg | at the same time |
| 23:49.21 | DoktorGreg | its not my money |
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| 23:50.16 | DoktorGreg | I would feel better about the whole thing if i had a pri line i could play with for a week or so before i committed to this... |
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| 23:51.07 | DoktorGreg | but generally the phone companies frown on getting a pri line at my home for a week |
| 23:51.25 | Darwin35 | I am byest |
| 23:51.47 | DoktorGreg | but im fairly sure ive worked out all the details |
| 23:51.51 | Darwin35 | and digium support for bsd sucks |
| 23:52.09 | Darwin35 | and sangoma hase full support for bsd |
| 23:52.10 | anonymouz666 | Use Linux |
| 23:52.46 | DoktorGreg | im not worried about linux at all |
| 23:53.21 | Darwin35 | I use fbsd + asterisk + postgres doing realtime |
| 23:53.22 | DoktorGreg | Ive used a very similar linux system at sustained load of 5 or so for years on end |
| 23:54.11 | DoktorGreg | and from the specs ive found... Ill be routing maybe 23 calls at a time |
| 23:54.25 | DoktorGreg | and this system should be able to handle 100+ calls |
| 23:54.33 | Darwin35 | I dont know how many users we are upto but it seems to be stable and work great |
| 23:55.24 | Darwin35 | where upto 6 proxy servers now |
| 23:55.32 | Darwin35 | and 4 more on order |
| 23:55.34 | DoktorGreg | I am really astonished at how clearly put together asterisk is |
| 23:56.01 | DoktorGreg | when i started i though it might be like sendmail |
| 23:56.45 | Hmmhesays | you'll eat those words |
| 23:56.48 | Hmmhesays | :D |
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| 23:57.50 | DoktorGreg | its hard to imagine anything as cryptic as sendmail though |
| 23:58.16 | DoktorGreg | where a , can mean 9 different things depending on the context |
| 23:58.24 | Hmmhesays | true |
| 23:59.11 | DoktorGreg | so they invented a ... somewhat... but not really... less cryptic configuration language |
| 23:59.20 | mitcheloc | (postfix) |
| 23:59.20 | asterboy | tzanger, the problem is that when I dial a long distance number it gets cut down to 7 digits. |
