| 00:00.10 | asterboy | so it would have to be an extension in extensions.conf then? |
| 00:00.14 | |omni| | just use 411 or something |
| 00:00.20 | |omni| | and bounce 911 to it for testing |
| 00:00.22 | asterboy | I was thinking it was somehow pulling it from features.conf |
| 00:00.23 | tgrman | depending on your VoIP service, 911 probably won't work anyway |
| 00:00.47 | Zodiacal | omni good idea.. thanks! |
| 00:01.11 | tgrman | be careful dialing 411, you probably get charged for those calls |
| 00:01.12 | Denmark | justinu : I guess you were right. Turned out I had to set a password for the dialtone. |
| 00:01.18 | asterboy | Just fixed my signalling problem with FXO and VOIP Adaptors! w00t!! |
| 00:01.29 | Zodiacal | tgrman good point, anyone know of a free number? |
| 00:01.34 | [av]bani | asterboy: what was that then |
| 00:01.38 | Zodiacal | 1800free411, but thats not 3 digits like 911 :) |
| 00:01.49 | Zodiacal | i guess i can redirect that 1800 to 411 |
| 00:01.50 | asterboy | put busydetect=yes into Zapata.conf |
| 00:01.52 | Zodiacal | which i should probably do anyways |
| 00:02.03 | [av]bani | asterboy: ah, you are using x100p or something :P |
| 00:02.09 | asterboy | yeper |
| 00:02.11 | [av]bani | ick |
| 00:02.14 | asterboy | yes ick |
| 00:02.30 | tgrman | doesn't really matter, your dialplan can map it up to whatever number you want, one of the airlines 800 reservation numbers is always good |
| 00:02.48 | asterboy | but when your pinching pennies...you learn to aquire a taste for ick. |
| 00:02.56 | asterboy | lol |
| 00:03.07 | [av]bani | spa3k is cheap and less ick |
| 00:03.20 | asterboy | ~spa3k |
| 00:03.21 | jbot | spa3k is probably Sipura 3000. Great for home users who want one fxs and one fxo. Also has fxo failover. http://www.sipura.com |
| 00:03.25 | Zodiacal | whats the smallest voip provider, smallest in terms of bandwidth per channel |
| 00:03.29 | asterboy | ah |
| 00:03.40 | asterboy | yes, I just order some grandstream products. |
| 00:03.42 | Denmark | I have spa2k |
| 00:03.48 | Denmark | ~spa2k |
| 00:03.55 | tainted_ | asterboy where do you get your gs stuff |
| 00:03.57 | asterboy | Thinkbright.net has the best prices so far. |
| 00:04.03 | tainted_ | asterboy i can get pretty good prices |
| 00:04.09 | asterboy | $83 for a Grandstream GXP-3000 |
| 00:04.25 | asterboy | $53 for an ATA386 |
| 00:04.56 | asterboy | The ones with FXO like the 486 are $68 |
| 00:05.23 | tainted_ | what type of quantity are u ordering |
| 00:05.33 | asterboy | Even if it's a bit more, I'll order from guys who provide support in here. |
| 00:05.57 | asterboy | My company is just starting to take off with * |
| 00:06.11 | asterboy | I ordered 2 ATAs and 5 GXPs today |
| 00:06.23 | [av]bani | gxp-3000? @_@ |
| 00:06.30 | asterboy | If I land this other HUGE fish, I'll need a LOT of equipment. |
| 00:06.56 | tainted_ | he means 2000 ass |
| 00:06.57 | asterboy | call crisis center and headquarters for all Western Canada Region. |
| 00:07.16 | asterboy | ya the 3000 looks sweet \o/ |
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| 00:07.40 | Denmark | It knows spa3k, but not spa2k?!?? |
| 00:07.42 | asterboy | no there is a 3000 |
| 00:08.02 | tsume | lilo: tor being abused? Oh gee, I wonder :P |
| 00:08.12 | tsume | lilo: its like flies to sugar. |
| 00:08.36 | asterboy | http://www.thinkbright.net/product_info.php?cPath=1&products_id=25&osCsid=d3fd1003bcba8b179e1ccbaf6a41c15b |
| 00:08.58 | asterboy | There is the GXV-3000 Grandstream Video Phone. |
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| 00:09.23 | asterboy | I'd have to say we are finally entering the era we should have been in 10 years ago. |
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| 00:10.08 | asterboy | thought he meant grandstream 3000 not the sipura 3000 |
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| 00:10.52 | tainted_ | what kind of support do u need for the products |
| 00:10.58 | asterboy | none |
| 00:11.21 | tainted_ | ok |
| 00:11.21 | asterboy | I'm usually self sufficient, save for the lifeline here in IRC land. |
| 00:11.33 | tainted_ | if u need more units let me know |
| 00:11.39 | asterboy | I can do the firmware upgrades and such. |
| 00:12.08 | asterboy | I actually prefer Polycom phones, but some clients are price conciencious, so I float them on grandstream. |
| 00:12.29 | tainted_ | polycoms are nice |
| 00:12.35 | tainted_ | snoms are great |
| 00:12.49 | asterboy | I love the whole no more FXS and FXO thing too. |
| 00:13.03 | asterboy | BUT, again some clients insist on traditional telco. |
| 00:13.15 | Denmark | Whats telco? |
| 00:13.28 | asterboy | pots telco I mean |
| 00:13.38 | Denmark | oh pots |
| 00:13.40 | asterboy | telephone company |
| 00:13.43 | Denmark | PSTN and the like |
| 00:15.13 | asterboy | yes |
| 00:15.28 | asterboy | nice when you can drop that from the quote. |
| 00:15.56 | Denmark | and telco is short for "company of telephones"? |
| 00:16.04 | asterboy | The equipment and line costs are huge in comparison without. |
| 00:16.24 | asterboy | or TELEphone COmpany |
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| 00:16.41 | Denmark | I C :) |
| 00:16.49 | asterboy | s/TELE/TELe/g |
| 00:17.05 | asterboy | TELCO |
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| 00:17.14 | Denmark | yeah |
| 00:17.15 | [av]bani | snoms are great lollerskates |
| 00:17.18 | asterboy | TELCO DISCO |
| 00:17.31 | asterboy | has a "ring" to it. (pun intended) |
| 00:17.36 | [av]bani | snom: nice hardware, damn shame about the firmware |
| 00:17.57 | Denmark | [av]bani : I heard one dis the snoms .. preffering polycoms .. but I forgot the reason. |
| 00:18.10 | [av]bani | Denmark: because the firmware is shit? |
| 00:18.12 | Denmark | firmware? |
| 00:18.18 | Denmark | ok |
| 00:18.27 | [av]bani | its obvious snom has never used their own phones outside their own offices |
| 00:18.37 | asterboy | lol |
| 00:18.53 | [av]bani | or in any remotely demanding situation |
| 00:19.15 | Denmark | So for quality there is only the polycom. |
| 00:19.22 | [av]bani | and getting them to fix bugs is like pulling teeth |
| 00:19.28 | [av]bani | no, cisco is quality also |
| 00:19.57 | Denmark | But more expensive, for same quality, right? |
| 00:19.58 | [av]bani | snom could be so much more, if they would just fire their programmers and hire new ones |
| 00:20.04 | [av]bani | no, better quality |
| 00:20.09 | [av]bani | far far better |
| 00:20.46 | Denmark | [av]bani : (Or pay them, maybe .. replace the leaders .. sometimes the problem is not the tail or stomach, but the head) |
| 00:21.03 | shaun2222 | is their a way to make a queue so that when the agent/member picks up it says somthing like you have a call from "blah" press 1 to accept, 2 to forward to voice mail, etc |
| 00:21.10 | Denmark | cisco is better than poly? |
| 00:21.13 | [av]bani | yes |
| 00:21.15 | [av]bani | easily |
| 00:21.33 | Denmark | Bigger display? |
| 00:21.35 | [av]bani | yes |
| 00:21.50 | Denmark | Better sound? |
| 00:21.52 | [av]bani | faster phone (eg doesnt take 3+ minutes to boot) |
| 00:21.54 | [av]bani | better sound yes |
| 00:21.58 | [av]bani | better construction |
| 00:22.00 | [av]bani | better buttons |
| 00:22.01 | [av]bani | better blf |
| 00:22.04 | [av]bani | better handset |
| 00:22.09 | Denmark | blf? |
| 00:22.10 | [av]bani | better microbrowser |
| 00:22.13 | [av]bani | ~blf |
| 00:22.14 | jbot | hmm... blf is Busy Lamp Field, aka little lights next to speed dials that light up when the person is on the phone and blink when that line is ringing. hint extensions are static mapped to SIP or other channels. |
| 00:22.55 | Denmark | So "cisco is it"? Just lack backlights? |
| 00:23.01 | [av]bani | 7970 has backlight :) |
| 00:23.08 | Denmark | wow |
| 00:23.08 | [av]bani | well, for ultimate quality, cisco is it |
| 00:23.22 | [av]bani | you will pay though.. but it is worth it |
| 00:23.24 | Sedorox | I think polycom has better quality |
| 00:23.41 | Denmark | I guess you need to throw a lot of money at cisco? |
| 00:23.41 | asterboy | How do you park calls exactly? |
| 00:23.49 | [av]bani | polycom does massive bass boost on their speakerphone, so people think it sounds better. but it doesnt really. |
| 00:23.56 | Snake-Eyes | i hate polycoms |
| 00:24.01 | Denmark | seor: Poly has better sound than cisco in your opinion? |
| 00:24.22 | Sedorox | you mean me? |
| 00:24.27 | asterboy | features.conf has parkext =>700 and parkps => 701-720 |
| 00:24.38 | Snake-Eyes | polycom setup is the worst of most voip ip phones out there |
| 00:24.40 | Denmark | s/seor/Sedorox/ |
| 00:25.21 | Sedorox | yea... but I haven't spent a great deal of time on either.. so.. |
| 00:25.23 | asterboy | extensions.conf has include => parkedcalls |
| 00:25.36 | [av]bani | polycom setup is a massive pita, yes |
| 00:25.36 | asterboy | is there anything else I need to setup to have parked calls working? |
| 00:25.47 | Denmark | Sedorox : So [av]bani might be right .. it could be the bas? |
| 00:25.54 | Snake-Eyes | the cpu on polycom isnt up to spec in some regards |
| 00:26.01 | Sedorox | well he said speakerphone.. I've rarely used speakerphone.. |
| 00:26.15 | [av]bani | Denmark: for long conversations i find the cisco far more comfortable and better sound |
| 00:26.34 | [av]bani | the handset is better, the audio is better (no massive bass boosting) |
| 00:26.41 | Denmark | [av]bani : For ip-ip? |
| 00:26.45 | [av]bani | for anything |
| 00:27.04 | Denmark | ip-ip is better quality, if 911u, right? |
| 00:27.05 | [av]bani | and the cisco is a lot faster. ive found myself waiting on the polycom often, for it to change menus and stuff |
| 00:27.12 | Sedorox | I don't like Blackberry's wifi/voip phone.... |
| 00:27.27 | [av]bani | we use g711u for everything |
| 00:27.34 | Denmark | we. |
| 00:27.42 | Sedorox | lotta bandwidth |
| 00:28.01 | [av]bani | also the cisco's blf are superior. multicolor backlit buttons, vs the polycom's weedy little red leds next to the buttons |
| 00:28.23 | Denmark | s/we./Well, I suppose g711u is equal or better quality than POTS?/ |
| 00:28.31 | shaun2222 | does screen-calle-options.gsm actually say press 3 to send the caller to the torchur menus? |
| 00:28.41 | Denmark | [av]bani : Nice |
| 00:28.46 | [av]bani | g711u is as good as it gets with asterisk |
| 00:28.46 | Sedorox | pots uses 711u |
| 00:28.51 | [av]bani | theres g722, but * doesnt do it yet |
| 00:29.16 | Denmark | So g711u == PSTN quality |
| 00:29.20 | [av]bani | yes |
| 00:29.45 | Sedorox | but it chews a lotta bandwidth.. |
| 00:29.53 | Denmark | Only cisco supports it yet? |
| 00:29.53 | [av]bani | for lan, doesnt matter really |
| 00:30.03 | Sedorox | everything normally supports g711 |
| 00:30.06 | Sedorox | cisco uses g729 |
| 00:30.07 | asterboy | ok, is there a way to tell * to use a different digit than "#" for initiating the parked calls? |
| 00:30.23 | Denmark | I mean g722 |
| 00:30.30 | Sedorox | ah.. dunno |
| 00:30.35 | [av]bani | grandstream supports g722 |
| 00:30.36 | asterboy | I think the Polycom is interpreting with its dialmap. |
| 00:30.38 | [av]bani | dont think cisco does |
| 00:30.58 | Denmark | Grandstream lacks a lot of features, but has good sound, right? |
| 00:31.04 | [av]bani | no |
| 00:31.09 | Sedorox | meh.. grandstrams are cheap |
| 00:31.12 | asterboy | does anyone in here use call parking? |
| 00:31.13 | Sedorox | period.. end of story |
| 00:31.13 | Sedorox | :p |
| 00:31.23 | [av]bani | grandstreams are good value for the money |
| 00:31.23 | Sedorox | I have a BT100... it works... |
| 00:31.36 | [av]bani | you want a cheap phone, gxp2000 is the only way to go really |
| 00:31.45 | [av]bani | anything else is unbelievably shit |
| 00:31.51 | Denmark | ok |
| 00:32.08 | [av]bani | gxp2000 isnt great, but anything else is worthless |
| 00:32.15 | Denmark | So, beginner phone or for the kids, its gxp2000 |
| 00:32.27 | [av]bani | well, you wont feel like you got ripped off. unlike snom :( |
| 00:32.34 | [av]bani | the gxp2000 has issues, but they are being fixed. |
| 00:32.39 | Sedorox | my work is thinking of getting a few of the WIP330-NA phones... |
| 00:32.58 | [av]bani | and its pretty usable.. and pretty much works out of the box with * |
| 00:33.28 | Denmark | Does it have speaker phone, and quickdial? |
| 00:33.29 | [av]bani | i would recommend gxp2000 over a snom, if that gives you any ideas |
| 00:33.39 | [av]bani | yes, it has speaker phone and speed dial and blf and the whole 9 yards |
| 00:33.56 | Harm|w | anyone know if its possible to upgrade a Cisco 7970G straight from version 2.5 to 8.0sip? or does it have to be incremental like with 7940/60s? |
| 00:34.19 | [av]bani | gxp2000's speakerphone is proabbyl the weakest point |
| 00:34.56 | [av]bani | for your $70 you get a lot more functionality than you do from many phones costing 3x as much |
| 00:35.09 | Denmark | The mike or speaker is bad? |
| 00:35.10 | [av]bani | as long as you dont expect a $70 gxp2000 to perform like a $600 cisco you'll be ok |
| 00:35.18 | [av]bani | the speaker volume is a bit low |
| 00:35.30 | Denmark | ok |
| 00:35.54 | [av]bani | they implemented some of my suggestions int he latest firmwares, which makes me happy |
| 00:36.03 | Denmark | maybe its good to buy before going cisco |
| 00:36.05 | [av]bani | unlike snom who have yet to address any of my bugs yet |
| 00:36.26 | [av]bani | its funny to get better support from cheapass chinese phones, than expensive german ones |
| 00:36.33 | Denmark | right |
| 00:36.33 | [av]bani | and sad at the same time |
| 00:36.59 | Denmark | well .. I guess cisco and poly are better at that. |
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| 00:37.31 | [av]bani | polycom arent any better with support |
| 00:37.54 | [av]bani | they have an insanely stupid firmware policy, and dont talk to end users at all |
| 00:38.30 | [av]bani | and if you buy a sidecar for the polycom, its pretty useless until polycom fixes their firmware |
| 00:38.49 | [av]bani | cisco support is excellent, but you pay for it |
| 00:39.05 | Sedorox | I've love one of those 7970G |
| 00:39.13 | [av]bani | but at least you _can_ pay for it, polycom simply doesnt want to hear from you at all |
| 00:39.30 | Denmark | judgeing from the pictures of gxp2000, the wire from the hook to the phone is extra? |
| 00:39.39 | justinu | hah |
| 00:39.43 | justinu | no, it comes with it |
| 00:39.46 | Sedorox | lol. naa.. they come with it |
| 00:39.54 | [av]bani | eh? |
| 00:39.57 | Sedorox | they aren't THAT cheap.. |
| 00:40.02 | Harm|w | [av]bani: ccm or sip? |
| 00:40.11 | Denmark | :o) |
| 00:40.27 | [av]bani | sccp |
| 00:40.36 | [av]bani | with asterisk, even |
| 00:40.48 | Harm|w | bleh |
| 00:40.54 | Sedorox | I wish asterisk could act as a sccp client |
| 00:41.00 | Denmark | I guess g722 wouldn't bee too hard to implement. |
| 00:41.14 | [av]bani | Sedorox: er, what do you think it does when it rings a phone? |
| 00:41.21 | [av]bani | dial(sccp/bla) |
| 00:41.23 | Sedorox | its the server... |
| 00:41.31 | Sedorox | I couldn't get it to work with ccm |
| 00:41.41 | [av]bani | ick |
| 00:41.46 | Sedorox | because you can't add ${exten} onto it.. from what I found anyway |
| 00:41.55 | asterboy | For call parking, does there have to be an extension in extensions.conf for the parkinglot? |
| 00:42.11 | asterboy | Like in there example they have press "#" and then 700 |
| 00:42.28 | asterboy | Do I need a [700] context somewhere in extensions.conf? |
| 00:42.51 | Sedorox | I dont' believe so.. I dont' have it listed anywhere in mjy one dialplan... and its still in it |
| 00:43.20 | Harm|w | I can't get this stupid 7970G to grab the 8.x firmware :( |
| 00:43.46 | asterboy | holy shit, asteriskdocs.org search is crap...never works for the simplest things. |
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| 00:45.05 | dynamicpulse | does anyone here have difficulty attepting a native bridge |
| 00:45.07 | dynamicpulse | ? |
| 00:45.14 | dynamicpulse | *attempting |
| 00:46.44 | Denmark | [av]bani : It actually has speaker phone .. |
| 00:46.55 | Denmark | err |
| 00:46.56 | [av]bani | Denmark: what does |
| 00:47.22 | Denmark | the grandstream . .but I wasn't really thinking of speaker phone.. |
| 00:47.41 | [av]bani | o_O |
| 00:48.35 | Denmark | I guess I am getting tired. I looked at specs for grand stream .. it seems that it really does have it all .. save pixeldisplay, backlight, and microbrowser |
| 00:48.39 | [av]bani | ~phones |
| 00:48.41 | jbot | i guess phones is at http://bani.anime.net/phones/ |
| 00:49.02 | [av]bani | what? grandstream has backlight and pixel display |
| 00:49.05 | dynamicpulse | yup |
| 00:49.08 | dynamicpulse | it's blue |
| 00:49.12 | Sedorox | microbrowser |
| 00:49.13 | Sedorox | ahahahhahahah |
| 00:49.16 | Sedorox | in a grandstream |
| 00:49.17 | Sedorox | ahahahahahahahahah |
| 00:49.21 | Sedorox | sorry... :> |
| 00:49.26 | dynamicpulse | lol |
| 00:49.44 | [av]bani | i can imagine grandstream doing sendtext though, which would be useful |
| 00:49.48 | Denmark | Sedorox : It does have POE, which impresses me. |
| 00:49.52 | [av]bani | linksys will probably never do anything |
| 00:49.54 | Sedorox | hehe |
| 00:50.09 | [av]bani | i dont expect linksys will ever do microbrowser or even send text. |
| 00:50.36 | dynamicpulse | the nice thing about grandstream is the awesome alpha and beta firmware they release... that you can try and add new features to your phone (some crash it) but it is fun to play with |
| 00:50.46 | [av]bani | linksys has only just discovered the existence of 100mb ethernet |
| 00:50.48 | [av]bani | only _just_ |
| 00:51.00 | Sedorox | they dont' have that for my phone |
| 00:51.03 | Sedorox | the BT100 sucks |
| 00:51.03 | Sedorox | ll |
| 00:51.05 | Sedorox | lol |
| 00:51.12 | Sedorox | [av]bani: maybe for their phones... |
| 00:51.23 | shaun2222 | is their a repo some where besides wiki that has a bunch of prebuilt confs, looking for example confs on doing things like making the caller identify them self and announcing the caller to the agent |
| 00:51.54 | [av]bani | the avaya 4621sw looks interesting |
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| 00:52.21 | Sedorox | I like avaya styles |
| 00:52.28 | Sedorox | like the look of the phone |
| 00:52.33 | Sedorox | dunno how functional it is tho |
| 00:53.05 | dynamicpulse | would anyone be able to help me with a quick problem? |
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| 00:53.43 | nubbrage | dynamicpulse: just ask -- if someone can, they will |
| 00:54.00 | dynamicpulse | nubbrage k will do |
| 00:54.22 | testshifter | guyz, i have setup 2 asterisk voip servers with different pubilc IP. How can i let those 2 communicate |
| 00:55.17 | dynamicpulse | I am having difficulty making outgoing calls using any codec... I have a grandstream 2000 using the g729 codec (i can make local calls to extensions on the server) but when making outgoing calls to PSTN (through telasip) it rings and then disconnects when the other user picks up... I hope someone has had a similar issue ... and was able to fix it |
| 00:56.33 | Sedorox | dynamicpulse: do you have the g729 codec license for the asterisk server? if not.. asterisk will only pass it through.. so it wouldn't work to PSTN.. unless you had it |
| 00:56.34 | nubbrage | testshifter: ummmm... setup SIP peers |
| 00:56.34 | Denmark | dynamicpulse : I didn't have it. But try g711u, thats what PSTN uses! |
| 00:57.27 | dynamicpulse | Denmark i thought telasip supports g729 |
| 00:57.39 | dynamicpulse | Sedorox yes I have a g729 for asterisk server :-) so I can get voicemails and everything |
| 00:57.45 | Sedorox | ahh ok |
| 00:57.48 | Sedorox | then it should worki.. hmm |
| 00:57.54 | Denmark | dynamicpulse : Possibly. I don't know telasip. |
| 00:57.54 | testshifter | numbbrage, how can i setup SIP peers? |
| 00:58.14 | Sedorox | console give anything specific? I've used g729 on phones.. to pstn just fine... |
| 00:58.27 | dynamicpulse | will show |
| 00:58.39 | Sedorox | well.. pastebin :p |
| 00:59.01 | dynamicpulse | Sedorox thanks |
| 00:59.46 | dynamicpulse | here it is http://pastebin.com/631860 |
| 00:59.51 | Sedorox | but yea.. just wondering what it says.. because I know it works.. so.. |
| 01:00.15 | Sedorox | oo your not going to pstn.. your going to telasip first... |
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| 01:00.18 | dynamicpulse | it dies after native bridge |
| 01:00.46 | dynamicpulse | Sedorox: sorry I may not have explained that well |
| 01:01.07 | Sedorox | :p |
| 01:01.09 | testshifter | hello Darwin |
| 01:01.31 | Sedorox | the only other thing I would suggest |
| 01:01.38 | Sedorox | turn on sip debugging .. and check that out |
| 01:01.53 | dynamicpulse | k |
| 01:01.56 | dynamicpulse | will give it a shot |
| 01:01.59 | Sedorox | since its bridging.... if telasip doesn't support g729 it might not work.. but you shoudl be able to turn off bridging |
| 01:01.59 | testshifter | How to setup sip to call other asterisk servers(public ip) |
| 01:02.05 | Sedorox | (reinvite I believe) |
| 01:02.13 | Sedorox | but I could be wrong |
| 01:02.31 | De_Mon | who provided the current voice prompts for asterisk? |
| 01:03.38 | Darwin_35 | Allison |
| 01:03.47 | dynamicpulse | oh no!! isn't there something in the sip.conf where you publish your external IP |
| 01:03.49 | dynamicpulse | ? |
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| 01:04.28 | testshifter | yes it has but how can i make a call using x-lite? |
| 01:05.03 | Darwin_35 | Tester have you finished reading the manual |
| 01:05.15 | VeNoMouS_ | anyone know if theres been further work on t38 for asterisk? |
| 01:05.24 | Darwin_35 | did you read on how to setup a account in sip.conf |
| 01:05.35 | Darwin_35 | its in the manual |
| 01:05.41 | dynamicpulse | just foudn it |
| 01:05.59 | Darwin_35 | there is t38 work going on in spandsp |
| 01:06.12 | testshifter | yes i can make calls using my private network but i cant figure out how to call others using their public ip in x-lite |
| 01:06.19 | VeNoMouS_ | yea going on, its long way from finishing |
| 01:06.33 | VeNoMouS_ | plus steve sucks @ replying to emails |
| 01:06.36 | testshifter | < |
| 01:06.41 | VeNoMouS_ | he emails a lil bit that dont get u anywhere |
| 01:06.42 | VeNoMouS_ | heh |
| 01:06.49 | testshifter | <<--- just a college student |
| 01:06.57 | VeNoMouS_ | ie the lsat email i got from him |
| 01:06.58 | VeNoMouS_ | Hi, |
| 01:06.58 | VeNoMouS_ | The signal level is too high. It is clipping badly. |
| 01:06.58 | VeNoMouS_ | Steve |
| 01:07.04 | Darwin_35 | tester so what that has no bearing here |
| 01:07.04 | VeNoMouS_ | heh |
| 01:07.12 | testshifter | :D |
| 01:07.20 | Darwin_35 | you could be jobless and it has no bearing |
| 01:07.34 | Sedorox | testshifter: I'm a college student too.... lol |
| 01:07.44 | testshifter | cool Sedorox! |
| 01:07.55 | dynamicpulse | that was my problem no external IP |
| 01:07.57 | Sedorox | but I dont' dial via IP.. so.. |
| 01:08.02 | dynamicpulse | sorry about that silly problem guys |
| 01:08.05 | Sedorox | dynamicpulse: hehe |
| 01:08.11 | Sedorox | dynamicpulse: as long as you were able to fix it ;-) |
| 01:08.18 | dynamicpulse | yup |
| 01:08.32 | testshifter | guyz please help! i need to call other asterisk servers using their public ip |
| 01:08.41 | testshifter | sorry guyz i need it badly! :) |
| 01:08.53 | Sedorox | testshifter: look it up on the wiki.. there is a few howto's |
| 01:08.56 | Sedorox | to do it with both sip and iax |
| 01:09.05 | Darwin_35 | doood |
| 01:09.11 | Darwin_35 | its in the manual |
| 01:09.12 | Sedorox | trust me... its better to do it that way then to get someone to walk you through it here... |
| 01:09.49 | testshifter | Sedorox, so i need to setup iax too?? |
| 01:10.13 | testshifter | just to call other asterisk in public? |
| 01:10.14 | Sedorox | no... you don't _need_ to.. depends which way you do it... |
| 01:10.21 | *** join/#asterisk doolph (n=doolph@200.75.208.199) |
| 01:10.26 | Sedorox | trust me.. read the howtos.. they are easy.. its how I learned to do it :p |
| 01:10.30 | doolph | hey |
| 01:10.41 | asterboy | w00t...call parking working. |
| 01:10.42 | testshifter | my initial purpose is for VOIP. |
| 01:11.01 | asterboy | good fucking thing I don't have to wait for answers here. |
| 01:11.25 | asterboy | voip-info.org SUCKS |
| 01:11.32 | Sedorox | testshifter: that would be the sole purpose of asterisk :p |
| 01:11.42 | asterboy | Here is where you can get better information: http://www.asteriskguru.com/tutorials/park.html |
| 01:12.01 | Sedorox | oh for call parking |
| 01:12.13 | asterboy | and astriskdocs.org really needs to do something about their search. |
| 01:13.05 | *** part/#asterisk dynamicpulse (n=dynamicp@yong-b-049.resnet.purdue.edu) |
| 01:13.23 | asterboy | testsifters answer should be, "To see your telco enemies driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of Vonage and Cisco." |
| 01:13.38 | *** join/#asterisk SplasPood (n=jwb@brooklyn.paravolve.net) |
| 01:13.40 | Sedorox | lol |
| 01:14.30 | asterboy | gotta love Conan the Astricon. |
| 01:14.45 | Denmark | I don't understand - what makes the grandstream so cheap - seems like an exelent phone! |
| 01:14.55 | asterboy | form factor for one. |
| 01:15.08 | asterboy | electrical components for another. |
| 01:15.18 | orlock | Denmark: they are a bit shit |
| 01:15.27 | anonymouz666 | cheap? |
| 01:15.27 | orlock | put the next to a cisco, you know which phone cost more |
| 01:15.33 | anonymouz666 | here it isn't cheap |
| 01:15.42 | asterboy | drop a polycom and a grandstream on the floor...which one do you think will keep working? |
| 01:15.43 | orlock | compared to a cisco it is |
| 01:15.46 | Sedorox | $70 for a GXP2000 |
| 01:15.53 | anonymouz666 | and their firmware is nasty. |
| 01:16.19 | asterboy | Where did you get a GXP2000 for $70 |
| 01:16.25 | Sedorox | I think.... |
| 01:16.43 | asterboy | I have it down to $83 from thinkbright.net |
| 01:16.47 | Denmark | $80 |
| 01:16.56 | asterboy | $80s good. |
| 01:17.01 | Sedorox | ah.. I see $90... |
| 01:17.17 | Sedorox | musta got it confused with another phone |
| 01:17.18 | asterboy | ebay may offer one cheaper but used. |
| 01:17.50 | Denmark | So the sound in the grandstream is lousy.. |
| 01:17.56 | asterboy | it is? |
| 01:18.13 | Denmark | I am asking .. you said cheap electrical components? |
| 01:18.13 | Strom_C | what a revelation |
| 01:18.13 | testshifter | meron bang pinoy dito? |
| 01:18.16 | asterboy | maybe compared to a polycom or cisco...but it must be functional |
| 01:18.41 | Sedorox | my bt100 is ok on quality |
| 01:18.45 | Sedorox | never had a problem with it |
| 01:18.46 | asterboy | The polycom has a fantastics speakerphone. |
| 01:19.00 | Strom_C | asterboy, get an ATA and a good-quality analog set or a high-quality desk set...but stay away from the grandstream garbage |
| 01:19.02 | Sedorox | notice some lag.. but thats because I dial to west canada from the US east coast :p |
| 01:19.24 | asterboy | Strom_C, that bad? why? |
| 01:19.48 | justinu | grandstream is the ultimate in frustration technology |
| 01:19.52 | justinu | so close, yet so far |
| 01:19.55 | asterboy | I have no choice but to go to the cheapest functional sometimes on price only. |
| 01:19.56 | Strom_C | a friend of mine decided to try 100 grandstream phones in an office environment one time. Within six months, all but eight of them had broken. |
| 01:20.24 | asterboy | They just came out with some Alpha firmware which I hear is working fantastic. |
| 01:20.48 | Strom_C | asterboy, no, I mean /physically/ the phones fell apart |
| 01:21.07 | asterboy | oh, I believe that...the formfactor looks like it came from China |
| 01:21.30 | asterboy | i droped my polycom from a high height onto cement flooring. |
| 01:21.51 | asterboy | The thing bounces and just gets right back into service with nothing but a scratch. |
| 01:22.17 | asterboy | Now the grandstream on the other hand looks like it would shatter. |
| 01:22.30 | asterboy | I give my clients the choice. |
| 01:22.42 | shaun2222 | Strom_C: maybe you can point me in the rigth direction here... i have a queue setup, i want the caller to say their name and for the system to record it, then i want it to annouce that to the agent/member and have them pick a option (1 to connect, 2 send to voice mail, 3 disconnect, etc ). |
| 01:22.51 | shaun2222 | i've been searching for what seams like hours. |
| 01:22.59 | asterboy | I show them the polycom and recommend it for harsh environments...but if they decide to choose otherwise on price...that's their fault not mine. |
| 01:23.13 | Strom_C | shaun2222, sounds like you need some custom programming |
| 01:23.28 | shaun2222 | Storm_C in what language? |
| 01:23.33 | *** join/#asterisk wunderkin (n=kev@ip68-226-113-228.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 01:23.37 | Strom_C | don't call me storm, please :) |
| 01:23.37 | shaun2222 | using like AGI or somthing you mean |
| 01:23.44 | asterboy | or maybe even C |
| 01:23.48 | Strom_C | yes, AGI and whatever language you feel most comfortable using |
| 01:23.56 | asterboy | perl is nice |
| 01:24.05 | asterboy | PHP ok |
| 01:24.06 | shaun2222 | i'm the man when it comes to perl :) |
| 01:24.32 | shaun2222 | any good howto's out their for AGI and perl? |
| 01:24.37 | asterboy | Ya, I gotta say I love perl for it's tight integration with OS and the bash like feel |
| 01:24.47 | Strom_C | shaun2222, look up Asterisk::AGI |
| 01:25.44 | asterboy | ok, bbl...major milestones in * accomplished today...[TD]KFender is an asset to this group. |
| 01:25.52 | Denmark | right now I have the sippura 2000. I am kinda happy, but I could wish for a better quality. |
| 01:26.48 | Denmark | later asterboy |
| 01:27.10 | *** join/#asterisk jhnjwng (n=wj1918@pool-70-21-199-9.nwrk.east.verizon.net) |
| 01:28.44 | *** join/#asterisk mtgh (n=chatzill@dsl093-001-038.det1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 01:33.31 | *** join/#asterisk MacDome (n=eseidel@A17-255-98-154.apple.com) |
| 01:35.12 | *** join/#asterisk MacDome (n=eseidel@A17-255-98-154.apple.com) |
| 01:36.07 | Darwin_35 | Everyone is fired go home |
| 01:36.08 | *** join/#asterisk MacDome (n=eseidel@A17-255-98-154.apple.com) |
| 01:36.16 | Darwin_35 | Asterisk is no more |
| 01:36.20 | *** join/#asterisk jasonpr (n=jasonpr@c-24-10-236-54.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 01:36.31 | tainted_ | what's the best way to list the peers on a * box |
| 01:36.44 | Darwin_35 | cli> sip show peers |
| 01:36.48 | tainted_ | manager api? |
| 01:37.10 | tainted_ | i need to store the peers in mysql |
| 01:37.11 | jasonpr | Does anyone know how to place a call (from asterisk) then send that call to an existing conference |
| 01:37.22 | Denmark | Darwin_35 : Which language is asterisk coded in? |
| 01:37.23 | tainted_ | jasonpr i've been trying to figure that out too |
| 01:37.27 | tainted_ | Denmark c |
| 01:37.29 | Darwin_35 | the reaad the realtime pages in the wiki |
| 01:37.33 | Strom_C | jasonpr, is the box generating the call? |
| 01:37.35 | Denmark | pure c? |
| 01:37.36 | Darwin_35 | c |
| 01:37.40 | jasonpr | yes |
| 01:37.51 | Strom_C | jasonpr, go read up on call files |
| 01:38.09 | Darwin_35 | jasor hookflash |
| 01:38.16 | Denmark | is it OO oriented or SA? |
| 01:38.28 | *** join/#asterisk batman2 (n=asdfd@ip70-181-90-193.oc.oc.cox.net) |
| 01:39.26 | tainted_ | any manager api gurus? |
| 01:39.57 | Darwin_35 | real asterisk users use the cli |
| 01:40.15 | Denmark | api.. |
| 01:40.15 | jasonpr | is there another way from the manager socket? |
| 01:40.32 | tainted_ | jasonpr closest i got was call files |
| 01:40.37 | Darwin_35 | gastman |
| 01:40.43 | tainted_ | although there is an app_bridge in the works |
| 01:41.26 | Sedorox | I thought the 7970G has gigabit interfaces on it.. not 10/100 |
| 01:41.30 | justinu | where? |
| 01:41.35 | justinu | app_bridge? |
| 01:41.48 | tainted_ | justinu it's on bugs |
| 01:42.01 | justinu | yeah, it's kinda old tho |
| 01:42.10 | tainted_ | heath revived it recently |
| 01:42.16 | tainted_ | shows promise |
| 01:42.25 | Darwin_35 | but it works |
| 01:43.04 | justinu | cool |
| 01:43.35 | justinu | i need exactly that |
| 01:44.21 | [av]bani | 7970g-ge has gigabit |
| 01:44.37 | [av]bani | er, 7971g-ge |
| 01:44.46 | justinu | there aren't many 802.3af PoE switches, i understand |
| 01:44.50 | Sedorox | ooo ok |
| 01:44.51 | Sedorox | gotcha |
| 01:44.51 | justinu | gigabit switches |
| 01:44.58 | Sedorox | Sub-Total: $894.69 |
| 01:44.59 | Sedorox | hehe |
| 01:45.11 | Sedorox | 7970G with power brick.. and Plantronics CS50 headset |
| 01:45.22 | Sedorox | those headsets are nice |
| 01:45.53 | tainted_ | justinu let me know how it goes |
| 01:47.47 | wunderkin | Sedorox, i was looking at the cs50 earlier |
| 01:48.11 | Sedorox | I Dont' know what model we have.. its a older one... it wraps over the head as the holder for it... but I tell ya.. nice and clear... |
| 01:49.03 | Sedorox | if I had the money I would do that.. or a wifi phone... |
| 01:50.02 | tainted_ | i heard the wifi phones are garbage |
| 01:50.02 | wunderkin | Sedorox, the cs50 is about 170 from googlegear |
| 01:50.12 | Sedorox | wunderkin: hmmm |
| 01:50.27 | Sedorox | tainted_: well.. the only real one I've played with is the blackberry one.. and that oen is shitty... |
| 01:50.34 | Sedorox | but.. I just don't like blackberrys.. so.. :p |
| 01:55.18 | Sedorox | wow.. I can get a cisco 831 for about $200 less the voipsupply has them |
| 02:05.40 | *** join/#asterisk subdolus (n=subby@subby.afraid.org) |
| 02:06.11 | loko | Sedorox thats what I use in my house |
| 02:07.01 | Sedorox | hehe |
| 02:07.14 | Sedorox | the CCNA academic stuff is offering it for like $300 |
| 02:08.19 | loko | not bad |
| 02:08.22 | loko | work provided mine |
| 02:08.35 | Sedorox | cool |
| 02:08.52 | Sedorox | I have a shitrload of 2500's... and one 2600 I'm 'borrowing' |
| 02:08.55 | Sedorox | so study up |
| 02:09.04 | Sedorox | and a shitty 2916M-XL switch |
| 02:09.52 | *** join/#asterisk octothorpe (n=octothor@unaffiliated/octothorpe) |
| 02:12.26 | shaun2222 | i have a 7206 VXR, 3750G-24-EI, 3550-24-EI, 2950G-48-EI sitting here :) |
| 02:12.37 | Sedorox | you suck! |
| 02:12.38 | shaun2222 | haha |
| 02:12.46 | Sedorox | I just want a decent switch.. that can do 802.1q |
| 02:12.52 | shaun2222 | 2950 |
| 02:12.52 | Sedorox | thats all.. doesn't need to be more then 12 ports... |
| 02:12.52 | Sedorox | lol |
| 02:13.00 | Sedorox | yes.. but IC an't find one cheap |
| 02:13.14 | VeNoMouS_ | AGH fucking max gay |
| 02:13.14 | shaun2222 | get a old 2900 then |
| 02:13.20 | shaun2222 | they arnt that bad these days i dont think |
| 02:13.21 | Sedorox | I have a 2916m-xl... it sucks |
| 02:13.22 | Sedorox | can't do it |
| 02:13.24 | VeNoMouS_ | they arnt doing t38 asterisk endpoint anytime soon!! |
| 02:13.32 | Sedorox | I can't find the right IOS either.. seems no one has it |
| 02:13.33 | shaun2222 | it cant do trunking? |
| 02:13.34 | VeNoMouS_ | tahts just fucks me over for this project |
| 02:13.38 | Sedorox | just isl |
| 02:13.46 | shaun2222 | oh |
| 02:13.52 | shaun2222 | thats right |
| 02:14.00 | Sedorox | I don't have the enterprise software.. even tho it says it is... |
| 02:14.27 | shaun2222 | Port Mode Encapsulation Status Native vlan |
| 02:14.27 | shaun2222 | Fa0/1 on 802.1q trunking 1 |
| 02:14.28 | shaun2222 | :) |
| 02:14.39 | Sedorox | :p |
| 02:15.36 | Sedorox | I know someone who has a 2950 sitting around.. but they won't sell it to me :/ |
| 02:15.39 | Sedorox | ouchhhh |
| 02:15.51 | shaun2222 | how much you looking to spend? |
| 02:16.17 | Sedorox | poor college student.... $200 or less :/ (so now you see why I haven't found any.. actually hoping for less then $100) |
| 02:16.24 | shaun2222 | the 2950's arnt cheap... i usually pay 2K for the 2950G-48-EI's |
| 02:16.38 | shaun2222 | i just got 2 of them for a hell of a deal though, 1500 ea |
| 02:16.50 | shaun2222 | and it came with like 48 cables and 20 feet of fiber |
| 02:16.57 | Sedorox | wow |
| 02:17.19 | De_Mon | 2950 is a phone right? |
| 02:17.24 | Sedorox | nope |
| 02:17.25 | Sedorox | network switch |
| 02:17.34 | Sedorox | 79XX are the phones |
| 02:17.38 | De_Mon | oh :) |
| 02:17.42 | bkw_ | why do people always misuse then and than in sentences all the time? |
| 02:18.02 | bkw_ | :P |
| 02:18.05 | Sedorox | sorry? :p |
| 02:18.16 | shaun2222 | i fuck up their and there all the time |
| 02:18.24 | *** join/#asterisk ramo (i=ramo@59.92.130.251) |
| 02:18.26 | De_Mon | why does a poor colage student need a 'quality' switch? |
| 02:18.27 | bkw_ | shaun2222, thats one too |
| 02:18.37 | De_Mon | bkw_ they went to an american school? |
| 02:18.40 | Sedorox | De_Mon: I need something that can do 802.1q trunks |
| 02:18.51 | bkw_ | De_Mon, I did to and I very rarely misuse those two words |
| 02:19.07 | bkw_ | its the keyboard overriding the brain |
| 02:19.15 | bkw_ | you type faster than you can think eh? |
| 02:19.15 | De_Mon | Sedorox can't you just use linux? |
| 02:19.21 | bkw_ | linux? |
| 02:19.21 | bkw_ | eww |
| 02:19.25 | shaun2222 | Sedorox: why can you use isl? |
| 02:19.32 | De_Mon | it's cheaper than the real hardware... |
| 02:19.40 | bkw_ | cheaper doesn't always mean better |
| 02:19.41 | Sedorox | I dont' have a box with enough pci slots and networks cards... |
| 02:19.50 | bkw_ | the PCI bus can't do what a switch can |
| 02:19.53 | bkw_ | sorry guys ... |
| 02:19.56 | Sedorox | shaun2222: because I want to uplink to routers (both cisco and linux/freebsd) |
| 02:20.04 | De_Mon | bkw_ cheaper almost NEVER means better, unless the other option is to do without |
| 02:20.04 | bkw_ | 8gbit on PCI-X isn't it? |
| 02:20.04 | shaun2222 | oh |
| 02:20.07 | shaun2222 | i see |
| 02:20.11 | Sedorox | bkw_: correct.. but for small stuff it should be fine |
| 02:20.17 | Sedorox | yes.. but pci-x nics are $$ |
| 02:20.29 | bkw_ | I want a two port PCI-X fiber nic |
| 02:20.32 | Sedorox | shaun2222: if I was only doing cisco.. it wouldn't be a problem :p |
| 02:20.32 | shaun2222 | Sedorox: you could probably find a cheap ass foundry that will do it |
| 02:20.33 | bkw_ | for gigabit |
| 02:20.45 | Sedorox | shaun2222: yea.. someone found a 48 port lucent that did it... |
| 02:20.51 | shaun2222 | i had a foundry somthing iron way back i bought for like 150 bucks |
| 02:20.56 | shaun2222 | it was base l3 |
| 02:21.00 | Sedorox | apparently he has another 24 port that does 802.1q.. but I'm still waiting to hear back |
| 02:21.01 | bkw_ | my motto is use what works... and toss what doesn't |
| 02:21.02 | shaun2222 | so it would do rate-limiting and stuff |
| 02:21.05 | De_Mon | 8gb is the full pci-x capacity isn't it? divide that by how # of connected devices? |
| 02:21.05 | Sedorox | yea |
| 02:21.16 | Sedorox | argh.. dont' get me on rate-limiting on switched |
| 02:21.18 | De_Mon | s/how // |
| 02:21.20 | Sedorox | switches |
| 02:21.26 | bkw_ | VeNoMouS_, first you need asterisk to actually support t.38 |
| 02:21.28 | De_Mon | :) jbot you so clever |
| 02:21.44 | bkw_ | VeNoMouS_, email and ftp are far more efficient at delivering documents |
| 02:21.50 | bkw_ | vs Faxing |
| 02:22.04 | bkw_ | fax is a thorn in my side on a daily basis |
| 02:22.06 | shaun2222 | Sedorox: i beleive it was a fastiron |
| 02:22.10 | Sedorox | ah |
| 02:22.14 | VeNoMouS_ | bkw_ : lol dude wtf |
| 02:22.16 | Sedorox | I duno.. just need a decent switch... |
| 02:22.16 | Sedorox | hehe |
| 02:22.23 | VeNoMouS_ | anyways im going home but ure smoking crack |
| 02:22.28 | shaun2222 | foundry makes some good switch's |
| 02:22.32 | VeNoMouS_ | i would love if we banned fax's from the planet |
| 02:22.32 | bkw_ | VeNoMouS_, actually no |
| 02:22.35 | VeNoMouS_ | but hay its not gonna happen |
| 02:22.36 | bkw_ | I know what i'm talking about |
| 02:22.51 | bkw_ | I do about 20-30k faxes a day |
| 02:22.58 | VeNoMouS_ | i dont think u do, because when u have over 1000 ppl sending frieght invoices all the time |
| 02:23.03 | Sedorox | hehe |
| 02:23.07 | VeNoMouS_ | u cant expect that many ppl to just switch |
| 02:23.10 | VeNoMouS_ | its just not going to happen |
| 02:23.14 | bkw_ | I know that |
| 02:23.15 | bkw_ | duh |
| 02:23.22 | bkw_ | but using asterisk for faxing is about the same |
| 02:23.25 | bkw_ | because it just won't work |
| 02:23.30 | bkw_ | good luck |
| 02:23.34 | shaun2222 | Sedorox: http://cgi.ebay.com/Foundry-FWS16-FastIron-Workgroup-Switch_W0QQitemZ5880612938QQcategoryZ71522QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting |
| 02:23.38 | bkw_ | we have to switch to all cisco gear for faxing |
| 02:23.53 | bkw_ | because it just works a hell of a lot better than anything else out there |
| 02:23.57 | Sedorox | hehe |
| 02:24.01 | Sedorox | thanks... but yea... dunno |
| 02:24.06 | VeNoMouS_ | well the only reason im wanting to switch to t38 is because spandsp v2 dont support all signal negoitations properly |
| 02:24.18 | bkw_ | neither does v3 |
| 02:24.29 | bkw_ | and v2 can with a 2-5% failure rate |
| 02:24.32 | shaun2222 | Sedorox: the reason it's so cheap is it's mad old, EOL :) |
| 02:24.36 | VeNoMouS_ | lol 2-5 |
| 02:24.37 | Sedorox | lol |
| 02:24.39 | Sedorox | well yea |
| 02:24.39 | bkw_ | yes |
| 02:24.40 | VeNoMouS_ | yea right |
| 02:24.51 | VeNoMouS_ | my failure rate is around 60% |
| 02:24.59 | VeNoMouS_ | because of all the types of differnt faxes |
| 02:25.00 | bkw_ | ours runs 2% solid |
| 02:25.10 | bkw_ | that 20-30k a day is all on spandsp |
| 02:25.14 | bkw_ | and we are having to switch to cisco |
| 02:25.15 | VeNoMouS_ | today alone i found 2 faxes that spandsp dont like |
| 02:25.21 | bkw_ | just two? |
| 02:25.22 | VeNoMouS_ | brother 2750 |
| 02:25.22 | bkw_ | lucky you |
| 02:25.27 | bkw_ | I have a list 100 miles long |
| 02:25.31 | VeNoMouS_ | xerox document center 250 |
| 02:25.32 | shaun2222 | Sedorox: i ran it for a year or so, with rate-limit policys.. worked great... even droped it off the top of a rack and it still works :) |
| 02:25.41 | Sedorox | ahaha |
| 02:25.42 | VeNoMouS_ | man ure acting real up yourself dude |
| 02:25.53 | bkw_ | VeNoMouS_, if you collect the info for those with the audio debug you can submit them to steve and he can make it work |
| 02:25.54 | shaun2222 | Sedorox: if i still had it i would give it to you, but i gave it to some kid |
| 02:26.00 | bkw_ | VeNoMouS_, you must not know how I am |
| 02:26.04 | VeNoMouS_ | i already talk to steve |
| 02:26.15 | Sedorox | hehe |
| 02:26.17 | Sedorox | naa.. its fine |
| 02:26.25 | Sedorox | I just need to save up my money :p |
| 02:26.33 | bkw_ | you don't know the stuff we do to make faxes just work... its lots of hacking and lots of crossing fingers but we do great on it |
| 02:26.46 | VeNoMouS_ | right.... |
| 02:26.57 | *** join/#asterisk willcampos123 (n=willcamp@adsl-144-181-65.mia.bellsouth.net) |
| 02:27.09 | VeNoMouS_ | the fact that steve doesnt even put page length checking into t4 says something bout the whole project |
| 02:27.47 | bkw_ | its a good project and its only going to get better |
| 02:27.57 | VeNoMouS_ | not the way u keep ripping it off |
| 02:28.14 | bkw_ | what? |
| 02:28.19 | file[laptop] | what? |
| 02:28.22 | willcampos123 | Hello, does anyone know how to disable callback feature? means when a * extension calls an external number, * extension hang up call, but external number don't, * extesion rings back... |
| 02:28.24 | bkw_ | you must not know that we work with Steve all the time |
| 02:28.58 | orlock | hmm |
| 02:29.06 | orlock | i'm actually trying to get faxing to work at the moment |
| 02:29.14 | orlock | but not with asterisk, just hylafax |
| 02:29.20 | orlock | getting mmr errors |
| 02:29.24 | bkw_ | you must have your clocking right to use asterisk with rxfax |
| 02:29.35 | bkw_ | now we did write chan_fax for asterisk where you could sit hylafax on top of spandsp |
| 02:29.36 | bkw_ | works ok |
| 02:29.43 | bkw_ | but spandsp needs a few more things to make that work correctly |
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| 02:29.56 | bkw_ | you can bring up a bank of virtual modems and then hook hylafax on top and go with that |
| 02:30.08 | VeNoMouS_ | bkw_ we will carry on this convo later |
| 02:30.08 | bkw_ | since Hylafax can do software ECM you gain that because spandsp doesn't have ECM at all |
| 02:30.10 | VeNoMouS_ | im heading home |
| 02:30.13 | VeNoMouS_ | Fri Mar 31 14:28:06 NZST 2006 |
| 02:30.41 | VeNoMouS_ | actually b4 i go |
| 02:30.56 | VeNoMouS_ | u reckon u could decryper what steve ment in his last email to me |
| 02:31.03 | VeNoMouS_ | Hi, |
| 02:31.04 | VeNoMouS_ | The signal level is too high. It is clipping badly. |
| 02:31.04 | VeNoMouS_ | Steve |
| 02:31.23 | VeNoMouS_ | he ant replied back |
| 02:31.28 | *** join/#asterisk _Simon (n=IRC@i216-58-40-193.cybersurf.com) |
| 02:31.34 | bkw_ | yes the incoming gain is too high on the signal and you're going off the scale |
| 02:31.49 | bkw_ | you can try to lower the gain which I have had to do on ours also to make it work with a wider range of faxes |
| 02:31.51 | VeNoMouS_ | why is it only doing it on some faxs tho |
| 02:32.04 | bkw_ | because some are louder than they should be |
| 02:32.09 | _Simon | hey gang, I bought a DID from globotech, when it comes into my asterisk box, it comes in as s@, has anyone seen that before? the # is actually defined in the USERNAME field, I'm having trouble getting it to work |
| 02:32.11 | bkw_ | and that can have somethign to do with the telco |
| 02:32.14 | VeNoMouS_ | bkw_ code side or phone.conf side? |
| 02:32.17 | bkw_ | or how the call is delivered |
| 02:32.27 | bkw_ | well you're using chan_phone? |
| 02:32.33 | VeNoMouS_ | neg |
| 02:32.40 | bkw_ | ah |
| 02:32.41 | VeNoMouS_ | but i noticed it had gain shit in there |
| 02:32.45 | VeNoMouS_ | call comes in via sip |
| 02:32.53 | VeNoMouS_ | from a cisco doing pass through |
| 02:32.54 | bkw_ | sip inbound to rxfax? |
| 02:32.58 | VeNoMouS_ | yea |
| 02:33.04 | bkw_ | thats just g711 pass thru right? |
| 02:33.07 | VeNoMouS_ | yea |
| 02:33.32 | willcampos123 | Hello, does anyone know how to disable callback feature? means when a * extension calls an external number, * extension hang up call, but external number don't, * extesion rings back... |
| 02:33.35 | VeNoMouS_ | i'll talk to u bout it in 30mins u gonna be around? |
| 02:33.35 | bkw_ | well thats a bad way to even use it.. since rtp has no jitter buffer and its very sensitive to that stuff |
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| 02:33.38 | bkw_ | yes |
| 02:33.40 | bkw_ | i'll be here |
| 02:33.47 | bkw_ | I can tell you some stuff to try maybe |
| 02:33.47 | VeNoMouS_ | kool heading home cause my ride bitching |
| 02:33.48 | VeNoMouS_ | lol |
| 02:33.52 | VeNoMouS_ | kool |
| 02:33.53 | VeNoMouS_ | cheers |
| 02:33.55 | VeNoMouS_ | bbs |
| 02:33.56 | bkw_ | :P |
| 02:35.53 | willcampos123 | Hello, does anyone know how to disable callback feature? means when a * extension calls an external number, * extension hang up call, but external number don't, * extesion rings back... |
| 02:41.00 | De_Mon | willcampos123 edit features.conf ? |
| 02:41.29 | willcampos123 | features.conf, let me see |
| 02:43.01 | willcampos123 | i see parck calls, but not any option to disable callback |
| 02:43.12 | willcampos123 | or maybe is the wrong name... |
| 02:43.20 | _Simon | I bought a DID from globotech, when it comes into my asterisk box, it comes in as s@, has anyone seen that before? the # is actually defined in the USERNAME field, I'm having trouble getting it to work, any ideas? |
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| 02:49.32 | Qwell | Idle: Must not work THAT well, if you're here. :P |
| 02:49.36 | Idle | lol |
| 02:49.49 | Idle | I just want it to detect calls faster on the zaptel |
| 02:50.08 | Qwell | Do you have callerid? |
| 02:50.12 | Idle | nope |
| 02:50.17 | Qwell | callerid=no |
| 02:50.17 | Idle | would like to, but dont |
| 02:50.21 | Qwell | That'll speak it up a little |
| 02:50.42 | Idle | what do I reload for zapata? |
| 02:51.00 | Qwell | sorry, usecallerid=no |
| 02:51.23 | Idle | I have callerid=asrecieved in mine from an example.. |
| 02:51.32 | _Simon | anyone have any thoughts? is that common? I'm not sure how to route it in extensions.conf |
| 02:51.39 | Qwell | that's fine. just set usecallerid=no, and it won't for it to never come |
| 02:51.48 | Qwell | s/won't/won't wait/ |
| 02:52.06 | Idle | Qwell: well, how do I reload zapata? do I need to restart asterisk for that? |
| 02:52.28 | Qwell | reload chan_zap.so |
| 02:52.42 | Idle | sexy |
| 02:53.17 | Idle | its hangup detection SUCKS |
| 02:53.28 | Idle | 2 rings later, it stops |
| 02:54.28 | Nugget | ring ring ring ring ring ring ring |
| 02:54.30 | Nugget | bannanaphone |
| 02:54.42 | Idle | too bad my brother is at home.... otherwise I would test how the voicemail works with an answering machine |
| 02:54.46 | Sedorox | I'll have to do the caller id thing on my one box.. takes like 3 rings before my voip phone rings |
| 02:54.46 | file | Nugget, guess what I had today |
| 02:55.00 | Nugget | mcnuggets? |
| 02:55.06 | file | Nugget, nope just chicken nuggets |
| 02:55.12 | Nugget | hooray anyway |
| 02:55.16 | Idle | calling out is good |
| 02:55.31 | Idle | Sedorox: yea, it worked for me :D |
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| 02:55.58 | Sedorox | hehe |
| 02:56.27 | shmaltz | I have features.conf wokring nicely however if I use sendDTMF to send the dtmf that would invoke a feature it doesn work? what could be the problem? |
| 02:57.04 | justinu | wtf is bananaphone? some new ad? |
| 03:00.21 | VeNoMouS_ | ok im back |
| 03:00.25 | VeNoMouS_ | well home now |
| 03:07.25 | VeNoMouS_ | .... |
| 03:08.55 | Idle | what is the prefered method for answering zap lines? just Dial(extensions..), or Answer first? |
| 03:09.06 | VeNoMouS_ | answer |
| 03:09.14 | Idle | ok, :) |
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| 03:12.11 | Smi|k | anyone here have experience writing audio driver files for windows? |
| 03:12.24 | Nugget | ...and willing to admit it? |
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| 03:12.49 | Smi|k | anyone here willing to admit having experience writing audio driver files for windows? |
| 03:13.24 | Smi|k | hrm. |
| 03:13.25 | Smi|k | anyone here? |
| 03:13.28 | Smi|k | :) |
| 03:14.40 | Idle | aparently noone with windows driver experience |
| 03:14.58 | Smi|k | I see |
| 03:15.11 | Smi|k | I had a piffany today |
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| 03:16.00 | Nugget | did it have anything to do with learning to spell? :) |
| 03:16.29 | Smi|k | why not write an audio driver (windows sees it as a sound card) and bind it to asterisk on the other side... windows allows multiple audio drivers on one PC, so inside your applications such as google talk, skype, lycos, etc..etc.. select the driver as your mic/speaker device then have asterisk manage the connection |
| 03:17.33 | Qwell | a piffany...heh |
| 03:17.42 | testshifter | guyz how can i call another asterisk voip server.. i set-up mine |
| 03:17.43 | Smi|k | wouldnt that be a simple way to use asterisk with a wide variety of other applications effectively? |
| 03:17.57 | Qwell | Smi|k: I think you mean "an epiphany" |
| 03:18.22 | Smi|k | especially in the office, I could run all the software in the background and have it ring my voip deskphone through asterisk with caller id being simply "skype" or "lycos" or more info if its available |
| 03:19.01 | {zombie} | there seems to be a limit on the number of rules you can put in extensions.conf - anyone know if that limit can be increased? |
| 03:19.03 | testshifter | guyz how to test asterisk to call public servers who have asterisk |
| 03:19.10 | Smi|k | Qwell, no, I meant a piffany.... since I dont know if it can be done or if its already been done its simply a piffany at this point... should it become something or be an idea of sorts, then it will be an epiphany |
| 03:19.45 | {zombie} | with * 1.2.4 I seem to hit a wall around 367 extensions |
| 03:19.46 | testshifter | please help me setup my asterisk... |
| 03:20.17 | Smi|k | what do you think though? has there been any chatter over the years regarding the audio driver translator? |
| 03:20.17 | {zombie} | whereas with 1.0.7 I had over 500 |
| 03:21.00 | testshifter | any help? |
| 03:22.30 | testshifter | guyz how to call from one asterisk server to another? |
| 03:22.48 | Strom_C | ~docs |
| 03:22.54 | jbot | [docs] probably Documentation can be found at http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk or http://www.asteriskdocs.org or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/asterisk or http://www.asteriskguru.com, or http://www.astmasters.net/howtos.html |
| 03:23.06 | Nugget | Smi|k: it's a sound idea, but in my experience the folks who are actually in the trenches developing asterisk are far more focused on more subtantive areas that serve to make asterisk a useful pbx. |
| 03:23.15 | Strom_C | testshifter, if you cant follow the documentation, give up and go kill yourself now. it will save us all lots of trouble. |
| 03:23.27 | Smi|k | well anything regarding audio drivers is a sound idea.... |
| 03:23.31 | Nugget | people are more concerned with PRIs and business needs than tailoring asterisk to be a plaything for desktop users. |
| 03:23.53 | Nugget | not making any value assumptions there, just stating my observation |
| 03:24.18 | testshifter | wat a nice suggestion |
| 03:24.20 | testshifter | :p |
| 03:24.24 | Smi|k | Nugget, this would effectively become a universal translator for any voip software not already integrated/compatible with asterisk - that has value does it not? |
| 03:24.31 | Nugget | of course. |
| 03:24.35 | Smi|k | i.e. lycos announced free voip to landline calling |
| 03:24.50 | justinu | testshifter is the epitome of n00b |
| 03:24.53 | Nugget | it's just not something that's a focus for the asterisk developer community that I've seen |
| 03:25.01 | testshifter | yup |
| 03:25.02 | testshifter | :p |
| 03:25.15 | Nugget | the digium guys are trying to break into the pbx market, not appeal to skype users. |
| 03:25.29 | Nugget | and asterisk's development reflects that |
| 03:25.33 | mog_work | as i am dead sexy |
| 03:25.35 | justinu | skype is stupid |
| 03:25.44 | Smi|k | this isint about skype justinu |
| 03:25.53 | file[laptop] | what are you still doing at the office? |
| 03:26.00 | mog_work | working on jingle |
| 03:26.05 | file[laptop] | ah |
| 03:26.07 | testshifter | nice room to get help! |
| 03:26.07 | file[laptop] | then continue |
| 03:26.08 | mog_work | aka my plea for people to drop skype |
| 03:26.18 | justinu | jingle is cool |
| 03:26.19 | Smi|k | this is about audio passing to voip, which must happen at some point |
| 03:26.25 | justinu | fuckin F1 practice is on! |
| 03:26.28 | justinu | lata |
| 03:26.52 | Smi|k | if its done with a sound card driver, no changes can be made to block it |
| 03:27.06 | mog_work | what does Smi|k want? |
| 03:27.13 | Qwell | mog_work: chan_alsa |
| 03:27.16 | Qwell | basically :P |
| 03:27.24 | Nugget | except for windoes. :) |
| 03:27.30 | mog_work | chan_alsa with manger control? |
| 03:27.34 | Smi|k | why not write an audio driver (windows sees it as a sound card) and bind it to asterisk on the other side... windows allows multiple audio drivers on one PC, so inside your applications such as google talk, skype, lycos, etc..etc.. select the driver as your mic/speaker device then have asterisk manage the connection |
| 03:27.38 | Smi|k | thats it again mog |
| 03:27.46 | Nugget | because there aren't many people who want to do that. |
| 03:27.59 | Nugget | or, at least, not many who have the motivation to develop it |
| 03:28.05 | mog_work | well |
| 03:28.11 | Qwell | $$$ talks |
| 03:28.13 | mog_work | its not scalable |
| 03:28.19 | mog_work | whats that Qwell |
| 03:28.19 | Smi|k | in what sense mog? |
| 03:28.20 | Qwell | mog_work: yeah, 1 channel, max |
| 03:28.27 | mog_work | you can only have 1 channel |
| 03:28.28 | testshifter | what a reliable reference we got here |
| 03:28.36 | Smi|k | why only 1 channel? |
| 03:28.37 | Nugget | the people who are actually putting the time and energy into asterisk aren't looking at that sort of use case. |
| 03:28.47 | Qwell | Smi|k: 1 channel per sound card |
| 03:28.53 | mog_work | one full duplex channel per sound card |
| 03:28.56 | Smi|k | right now I have like 3 installed |
| 03:28.57 | mog_work | kinda expensive hack |
| 03:29.09 | Smi|k | dropdown in google talk lets me select which one to use for mic, which for speaker, etc..etc.. |
| 03:29.15 | Nugget | for what it's worth, I've done exactly what you are describing with a hardware solution. |
| 03:29.21 | mog_work | thats one channel though |
| 03:29.23 | mog_work | and that is |
| 03:29.24 | Nugget | it's a neat toy, but I don't take it seriously. |
| 03:29.26 | mog_work | err it |
| 03:29.26 | Qwell | the trick is writing a fake audio driver, which converts to say, SIP |
| 03:29.32 | Smi|k | not sure how many windows supports, but if it supports say 10, then 9 of them could be sip translators |
| 03:29.34 | Smi|k | thats 9 channels |
| 03:29.35 | mog_work | it cant be done for multiple people |
| 03:29.41 | mog_work | so 9 channels? |
| 03:29.42 | Smi|k | Qwell, thats what I'm talking about |
| 03:29.42 | mog_work | thats it |
| 03:29.44 | mog_work | one machine |
| 03:29.46 | mog_work | for 9 channels |
| 03:29.47 | Nugget | http://slacker.com/~nugget/projects/asterisk/page12 |
| 03:29.49 | testshifter | ~docs |
| 03:29.51 | jbot | it has been said that docs is probably Documentation can be found at http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk or http://www.asteriskdocs.org or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/asterisk or http://www.asteriskguru.com, or http://www.astmasters.net/howtos.html |
| 03:29.51 | mog_work | why not just implement google talk |
| 03:29.51 | Smi|k | mog_work, it depends how many channels windows supports |
| 03:29.54 | mog_work | thats what i am doing |
| 03:29.59 | Smi|k | oh, that works :) |
| 03:30.03 | mog_work | its still pisspoor |
| 03:30.06 | bkw_ | mog_work, really? |
| 03:30.21 | mog_work | yeah your in for enjoyment tommorrow |
| 03:30.27 | bkw_ | why? |
| 03:30.30 | mog_work | you can make fun of me all day long and have a nice day ^_^ |
| 03:30.49 | bkw_ | no honestly I wasn't making fun of you.. you have a hard task ahead of you |
| 03:30.52 | bkw_ | libjingle is pure shit |
| 03:30.52 | {zombie} | noone has any ideas on the extensions.conf limits? |
| 03:31.04 | Smi|k | see what I mean on sound card driver though? you dont need more than one channel |
| 03:31.09 | mog_work | im not using libjingle |
| 03:31.13 | mog_work | libjingle is junk |
| 03:31.21 | bkw_ | you found that out too eh? |
| 03:31.27 | mog_work | i always knew that ^_^ |
| 03:31.27 | Smi|k | if I come to work each day and have various voice applications on my work computer, then I can have them all forward to my cell phone when I leave work each day |
| 03:31.33 | mog_work | it didnt even build on my box |
| 03:31.33 | bkw_ | whats your attack plan? |
| 03:31.38 | mog_work | till their 3rd release |
| 03:31.43 | mog_work | well about a year ago |
| 03:31.44 | bkw_ | hell it didn't even build on any of our boxes till then either |
| 03:31.45 | Smi|k | if 100 people in the same office do the same thing its a single audio driver, installed on 100 pc's used by 100 people, thats scalable |
| 03:31.48 | mog_work | i found a wonderful library |
| 03:31.56 | mog_work | iksemel |
| 03:31.58 | bkw_ | yep |
| 03:32.00 | bkw_ | same one we use |
| 03:32.01 | mog_work | the rest is simple |
| 03:32.03 | mog_work | yeah i know |
| 03:32.07 | bkw_ | simple eh? |
| 03:32.09 | mog_work | glad you guys moved |
| 03:32.12 | mog_work | yeah |
| 03:32.16 | mog_work | ive just been busy / dumb |
| 03:32.21 | Nugget | slacker |
| 03:32.29 | mog_work | never wrote a channel driver before |
| 03:32.31 | mog_work | im a nubb |
| 03:32.33 | mog_work | what can i say |
| 03:32.37 | Smi|k | how much $ for a sound card driver converted to sip Nugget? |
| 03:32.57 | Nugget | don't look at me. I wouldn't want to do it even if I could. |
| 03:32.58 | Smi|k | sip or iax on the client side, with a setup section to tell it which server login/pass etc.. to bind to |
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| 03:33.49 | Smi|k | hey, at least I'm not asking for OCR drivers that do screen caps and read the text off the ringing program and convert it to caller id data :P |
| 03:34.16 | Nugget | ask me sometime about my roommate in college who got his computer to boot of a scsi scanner. |
| 03:35.03 | Smi|k | hrm |
| 03:35.22 | mog_work | what the hell Nugget ? |
| 03:36.02 | Nugget | he discovered that it was easy to spoof the scanner to appear as a bootable device, and took very little effort to get it to scan the tray and dump the bits raw |
| 03:36.09 | Qwell | ... |
| 03:36.24 | Nugget | so he worked up a page of binary chatter that was the boot code he needed (with minimal parsing) and had the scanner as his boot device. |
| 03:36.34 | Nugget | I only vaguelly understand the actual mechanics |
| 03:36.43 | mog_work | wow |
| 03:36.50 | Nugget | it took him about a month to get working |
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| 03:46.25 | AlexCTI | Hi Everyone... someone knows how disable the music on hold when the agents are waiting for call? and just leave the beep qhen the next call comes in? |
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| 03:49.53 | dlynes | Hello. I'm just wondering if anyone has any third-party addons to facilitate playing of wav files using the Background() dialplan application? |
| 03:50.18 | Qwell | dlynes: Why would you need a third-party app? |
| 03:50.29 | Qwell | Background() plays wav just fine |
| 03:51.52 | dlynes | Yeah, you told me that the other night, but every time I try... |
| 03:52.00 | dlynes | ..it says unrecognized format |
| 03:52.20 | dlynes | and then mentions some blather about it not being ilbc format |
| 03:52.29 | dlynes | what ilbc has to do with wav, I don't know |
| 03:52.57 | dlynes | I've tried Background(wavfile.wav), Background(wavfile.wav:wav), Background(wavfile:wav) |
| 03:53.00 | dlynes | None of them work |
| 03:53.22 | AlexCTI | dlynes: don't put the extension |
| 03:53.27 | AlexCTI | on the file |
| 03:53.31 | dlynes | It's an 8K, mono wav file I'm trying to play |
| 03:53.36 | AlexCTI | just the name of file |
| 03:53.58 | dlynes | Oh...ok...just used to all the other applications that require the extension |
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| 03:55.09 | AlexCTI | Anyone is familiar with queues? |
| 03:57.11 | x86 | what are the legalities involved with recording outbound calls? |
| 03:57.14 | dlynes | Ah...cool...I assumed that if you didn't leave the extension off, that it would go to gsm |
| 03:57.33 | dlynes | x86: I think it's very particular to the laws of your region |
| 03:57.38 | x86 | say one of my users wants to call someone up and record it (which I currently support), do i have to play a message to the called party giving them a disclaimer? |
| 03:57.45 | x86 | or is that the responsibility of the end user? |
| 03:57.56 | x86 | dlynes: the US |
| 03:59.25 | AlexCTI | dlynes: * search the file no matter the extension, but better be sure is on the right format |
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| 04:04.23 | dlynes | x86: yeah, no idea...I'm not in the us |
| 04:04.58 | dlynes | x86: but in a lot of jurisdictions, you can announce at the beginning that it's being recorded, or you can play an audible beep periodically to let them know it's being recorded, ... |
| 04:06.23 | x86 | hmm |
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| 04:08.59 | Smi|k | x86, I'd suggest just setting up a box offshore and giving it a sip connection |
| 04:09.06 | dlynes | x86, if you want to avoid getting sued, i'd suggest checking with a lawyer |
| 04:09.12 | Smi|k | when they want to record, they conf. in that channel and then do the recording offshore and access it via web wherever they are |
| 04:09.20 | Smi|k | that way there is no laws for anyone to worry about |
| 04:09.25 | Smi|k | and you can bill more for recording |
| 04:13.12 | x86 | http://www.callcorder.com/phone-recording-law-america.htm |
| 04:18.12 | x86 | what about 911? |
| 04:19.16 | x86 | if i dont offer that to my customers, but make them sign a waiver that they acknowledge I do not provide 911 services PRIOR to letting them signup, will there be any responsibility beyond that? |
| 04:19.39 | expressfone1 | need help to install zaptel-1.2.5 on 2.6.16-1.2069_FC4 |
| 04:21.00 | expressfone1 | # modprobe wctdm |
| 04:21.01 | expressfone1 | FATAL: Module wctdm not found. |
| 04:21.01 | expressfone1 | FATAL: Error running install command for wctdm |
| 04:21.16 | expressfone1 | any one can helpme?? |
| 04:21.17 | Qwell | expressfone1: type `make install` |
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| 04:21.26 | Qwell | in the zaptel source dir |
| 04:21.54 | Z-Knight | anyone know how to get the firmware files to upgrade to SIP the CISCO 7960 phone??? |
| 04:21.56 | expressfone1 | ok |
| 04:22.23 | expressfone1 | but no modules at /lib/modules/2.6.16-1.2069_FC4/misc/ |
| 04:22.58 | Z-Knight | Does anyone know anything about the CISCO 7960? |
| 04:23.09 | expressfone1 | after type `make install` |
| 04:23.09 | |omni| | Z-Knight: , I use them here |
| 04:23.26 | expressfone1 | Qwell ??? |
| 04:23.48 | Z-Knight | omni: How did you upgrade (or did you) to SIP?? I can't find access to the old CISCO firmware files that I think I need |
| 04:24.34 | |omni| | Z-Knight: , you need a cisco account |
| 04:24.45 | Z-Knight | how do you get one...and how much does it cost? |
| 04:24.58 | Z-Knight | first how much is the cost for the basic one I'd need? |
| 04:25.15 | Z-Knight | I tried registering at cisco but I guess I only get a guest account |
| 04:25.41 | |omni| | company I did the last system for had one so I just used theirs, but I believe if you search on voip-info.org there's some info about buying a support license for the cisco phones |
| 04:25.43 | Darwin_35 | everyoone go to bed |
| 04:25.45 | |omni| | for like $50 or something |
| 04:25.48 | Darwin_35 | its bed time |
| 04:25.57 | expressfone1 | any one can helpme??? |
| 04:25.58 | expressfone1 | after type `make install` |
| 04:25.58 | expressfone1 | no modules found at /lib/modules/2.6.16-1.2069_FC4/misc/ |
| 04:25.58 | expressfone1 | installing zaptel-1.2.5 on 2.6.16-1.2069_FC4 |
| 04:26.18 | |omni| | maybe cheaper if you're not in the US apparently |
| 04:26.25 | dlynes | expressfone1, did you do make linux26 ; make install? |
| 04:26.25 | Z-Knight | omni: ok, will do....did you have to convert your phone to SIP, per chance? |
| 04:26.39 | |omni| | I didn't have to, but I have some converted to sip |
| 04:26.44 | |omni| | and some on SCCP |
| 04:27.04 | expressfone1 | dlynes, im try it too after symlink on linux-2.6 |
| 04:27.07 | Z-Knight | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:27.07 | dlynes | expressfone1, also, do you have your linux kernel sources install? |
| 04:27.09 | |omni| | sip image seems to work okay |
| 04:27.15 | dlynes | expressfone1, symlink? |
| 04:27.16 | expressfone1 | kernel-devel |
| 04:27.20 | |omni| | some people in here having issues with larger installs |
| 04:27.23 | Z-Knight | so I think I have to downgrade to some low SIP first and then upgrade to latest SIP |
| 04:27.30 | |omni| | I didn't have to do that |
| 04:27.34 | Z-Knight | am I right? I'm only doing one phone |
| 04:27.40 | |omni| | I just did the full upgrade, but I heard that story too |
| 04:27.44 | expressfone1 | dlynes> README.Linux26 |
| 04:27.49 | |omni| | I didn't have any issues |
| 04:27.59 | Z-Knight | ok...yeah, I read about how you have to go down first and then go up |
| 04:28.04 | |omni| | once I found the correct XMLDefault settings, etc. |
| 04:28.09 | |omni| | ya, I didn't have to |
| 04:28.21 | Qwell | Z-Knight: The people who say that, don't know what they're doing |
| 04:28.25 | Z-Knight | asterisk@home has some default XMLDefault file available |
| 04:28.28 | |omni| | just stuck everything on the TFTP and made sure I had the XML settings correct |
| 04:28.33 | dlynes | expressfone1, unless you're using some broken distribution, that symbolic link should already be there |
| 04:28.39 | |omni| | rebooted, it loaded the loader, then the image...all good |
| 04:28.43 | Z-Knight | QWell, so you can just go to full 8.2 without a problem? |
| 04:28.49 | Qwell | yes |
| 04:28.54 | Z-Knight | k...that's good to know |
| 04:28.59 | dlynes | expressfone1, there should be two symbolic links in that directory pointing to your source directory |
| 04:29.02 | dlynes | expressfone1, source, and build |
| 04:29.06 | Z-Knight | QWell, do you know how to get the CISCO support license? |
| 04:29.11 | Z-Knight | so I can get the necessary files |
| 04:29.12 | Qwell | buy them |
| 04:29.21 | Z-Knight | I know,.....but what is it actually called? |
| 04:29.24 | expressfone1 | dlynes> source ?? |
| 04:29.29 | |omni| | I think you can get them from INSIGHT |
| 04:29.30 | Z-Knight | what shoudl I ask for when I call/email? |
| 04:29.54 | Z-Knight | insight...ok, let me go check....thanks a lot omni, QWell! |
| 04:30.28 | dlynes | expressfone1, for example on my system, in /lib/modules/2.6.15.5LL, i've got a symbolic link of source to /usr/src/linux-2.6.15.5LL/, and another one of build to /usr/src/linux-2.6.15.5LL/ |
| 04:30.33 | |omni| | I could be wrong on that, I'm digging on their site |
| 04:30.57 | dlynes | expressfone1, also, are you running make install as root user? |
| 04:31.03 | expressfone1 | yes |
| 04:31.20 | expressfone1 | that happen after yum update |
| 04:31.28 | dlynes | Do you have both the source and build symbolic links? |
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| 04:31.50 | Z-Knight | omni: if you find a link let me know...I'm searching insight now as well |
| 04:31.52 | expressfone1 | kernel got updated and cant get zaptel runing any more |
| 04:32.09 | dlynes | expressfone1, did you recompile zaptel after updating the kernel? |
| 04:32.15 | Qwell | expressfone1: Do you get any errors? |
| 04:32.21 | Qwell | duing the make install |
| 04:32.24 | expressfone1 | only symlink to build, no source code on FC4, only kernel-devel |
| 04:32.40 | expressfone1 | Qwell> not, all look ok |
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| 04:32.57 | dlynes | expressfone1, what's kernel-devel? Sorry...I'm not a fedora/redhat user... |
| 04:33.02 | expressfone1 | dlynes> yes, recompile 5 time |
| 04:33.13 | dlynes | expressfone1, it's not the kernel sources? |
| 04:33.47 | expressfone1 | no need kernel sources on FC4, only need kernel-devel |
| 04:34.11 | dlynes | expressfone1, if you don't have kernel sources, how are you going to compile zaptel? |
| 04:34.33 | Qwell | kernel-devel ~= kernel-headers |
| 04:34.45 | expressfone1 | yes Qwell |
| 04:34.50 | dlynes | Qwell, but don't you need your kernel .config file as well? |
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| 04:34.59 | expressfone1 | have 5 * runing with kernel-devel |
| 04:35.34 | expressfone1 | all ok |
| 04:36.14 | expressfone1 | when update this one, zaptel dont install modules |
| 04:36.26 | jasonpr | how do you playback in a conference? |
| 04:36.34 | dlynes | expressfone1, you must be getting some kind of error at the end of make install though, aren't you? |
| 04:36.43 | expressfone1 | no |
| 04:36.54 | expressfone1 | no error at all |
| 04:36.58 | dlynes | expressfone1, do an updatedb |
| 04:37.08 | dlynes | expressfone1, and then do a locate for zaptel.ko |
| 04:37.09 | Qwell | dlynes: why? |
| 04:37.26 | Qwell | find /lib/modules/ -name zaptel.ko |
| 04:37.28 | dlynes | Qwell, because it might have gotten installed to some fubar location |
| 04:37.35 | dlynes | Qwell, otherwise he should have gotten an error |
| 04:39.21 | expressfone1 | im runing make clean; make linux26; make install again |
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| 04:40.21 | expressfone1 | no error |
| 04:40.22 | expressfone1 | # find /lib/modules/ -name zaptel.ko |
| 04:40.23 | expressfone1 | /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1833_FC4/misc/zaptel.ko |
| 04:40.23 | expressfone1 | /lib/modules/misc/zaptel.ko |
| 04:40.44 | Qwell | well, that's wrong |
| 04:40.57 | expressfone1 | but not modules at /lib/modules/2.6.16-1.2069_FC4/misc/ |
| 04:41.02 | Qwell | expressfone1: What do you get when you `uname -r`? |
| 04:41.07 | x86 | ls -la /usr/src/linux |
| 04:41.14 | x86 | maybe it went off the wrong kernel tree |
| 04:41.24 | expressfone1 | im runing 2.6.16-1.2069_FC4 |
| 04:41.39 | Qwell | expressfone1: What does it say when you type that? |
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| 04:42.10 | expressfone1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:42.12 | philth | I'm just starting with * looking to get the Dev FXS FXO card, I've read all throught voip-info.org and just wondering if there were any other suggestions or official pages that would be good for starting out. |
| 04:42.17 | Qwell | good |
| 04:43.22 | expressfone1 | . /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1833_FC4/misc/zaptel.ko is old module, from install before update kernel |
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| 04:43.47 | expressfone1 | no modules at /lib/modules/2.6.16-1.2069_FC4/misc/ |
| 04:43.48 | x86 | expressfone1: ls -la /usr/src/linux |
| 04:44.00 | x86 | oh wait |
| 04:44.04 | x86 | you install from RPM |
| 04:44.09 | x86 | ? |
| 04:44.10 | expressfone1 | not |
| 04:44.17 | expressfone1 | from source |
| 04:44.26 | x86 | not from source? |
| 04:44.39 | expressfone1 | im install from source |
| 04:44.39 | dlynes | x86, it seems his modules got installed to /lib/modules/misc, not /lib/modules/2.6.16-1.2069_FC4/misc |
| 04:44.56 | expressfone1 | yes |
| 04:45.06 | x86 | dlynes: seems like he needs a proper /usr/src/linux symlink! |
| 04:45.40 | expressfone1 | where to link /usr/src/linux??? |
| 04:45.51 | dlynes | x86, or a proper install of his /usr/src/linux |
| 04:46.02 | dlynes | expressfone1, it's a generalized name of a symbolic link |
| 04:46.04 | x86 | dlynes: that made no sense ;) |
| 04:46.17 | expressfone1 | not /usr/src/linux on my system, only /usr/src/linux-2.6 |
| 04:46.27 | dlynes | expressfone1, he means the source and build symbolic links inside your modules directory |
| 04:46.41 | dlynes | expressfone1, i.e. make them point to where your kernel headers and what-not really are |
| 04:46.43 | x86 | expressfone1: rm /usr/src/linux; ln -sf /usr/src/linux-2.6.16... /usr/src/linux |
| 04:46.51 | x86 | expressfone1: then re-build your zaptel modules |
| 04:46.55 | dlynes | x86, oh...that.. |
| 04:47.14 | dlynes | x86, how is that going to fix it? 2.6 doesn't rely on that anymore |
| 04:47.17 | expressfone1 | ok, let my try |
| 04:47.31 | x86 | dlynes: the kernel itself may not, but most third-party modules still do |
| 04:47.43 | x86 | including zaptel ;) |
| 04:47.54 | dlynes | x86, ah...yeah...i don't even have that symbolic link anymore, and zaptel compiles just fine |
| 04:48.29 | x86 | 1.2.5 wouldnt for me until i made the link :P |
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| 04:49.41 | frk2 | hello people |
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| 04:50.18 | frk2 | I wonder if i am going crazy |
| 04:50.31 | frk2 | If i need a solution to support 800 analog phones |
| 04:50.51 | frk2 | i need to get like 40 T1 channel banks? |
| 04:50.53 | frk2 | damn |
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| 04:51.04 | frk2 | 10 digium quad pris"? |
| 04:51.04 | x86 | frk2: channelized DS3 |
| 04:51.32 | x86 | err |
| 04:51.34 | frk2 | DS3 channel banks? |
| 04:51.37 | x86 | dual DS3 |
| 04:51.51 | x86 | DS3 == (28) DS1 == (24) DS0 |
| 04:51.52 | frk2 | im not talking about telco lines |
| 04:52.05 | x86 | you're talking TDM lines right? |
| 04:52.09 | expressfone1 | same problem after ln -s /lib/modules/2.6.16-1.2069_FC4/build/ /usr/src/linux |
| 04:52.21 | frk2 | yeah- normal analog phones |
| 04:52.21 | x86 | expressfone1: i never said /build ;) |
| 04:52.24 | frk2 | i got 800 of them |
| 04:52.36 | expressfone1 | :S |
| 04:52.40 | frk2 | but i have never seen a DS3 channel bank |
| 04:53.51 | dlynes | x86, yeah...realized i had a symbolic link there...removed it, recleaned zaptel build directory, removed the old module directory, recompiled, reinstalled, and they're in the correct directory |
| 04:53.53 | jsaunders | Mmm, Seagate Cheetah 76gb 10k scsi u320. *drools* |
| 04:54.06 | dlynes | x86, so zaptel definitely doesn't need that symbolic link |
| 04:54.49 | x86 | dlynes: odd, mine wouldnt compile without it (1.2.5) |
| 04:55.22 | dlynes | x86, I'm using 2.6.15.5 kernel sources downloaded from ftp.kernel.org, and zaptel-1.2.5 sources downloaded from ftp2.digium.com |
| 04:55.34 | x86 | 2.6.12 here |
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| 04:56.14 | dlynes | x86, 2.6.15.2 i think had an issue with that, with zaptel-1.2.4, and maybe that's why i had the symbolic link there |
| 04:56.18 | expressfone1 | im think there a issue for zaptel-1.2.5 on 2.6.16-1.2069_FC4 |
| 04:56.36 | frk2 | does digium make ds3 cards for asterisk? |
| 04:56.38 | x86 | dlynes: oh wait i was wrong it is 1.2.4... not 1.2.5 |
| 04:56.58 | dlynes | x86, lol |
| 04:57.26 | expressfone1 | 2.6.15-1.1833_FC4 with zaptel-1.2.4 was running great |
| 04:57.30 | dlynes | x86, anyways...it might have been a bug in the 1.2.4 sources that required the symbolic link, and in zaptel-1.2.5 they fixed it |
| 04:57.50 | dlynes | expressfone1, I'm thinking your kernel-devel for 2.6.16 has issues, not zaptel |
| 04:57.55 | frk2 | hmm |
| 04:58.00 | frk2 | nobody wants to tell me :( |
| 04:58.13 | expressfone1 | letme downgrade my FC4 |
| 04:58.16 | dlynes | expressfone1, do you have kernel-devel for both 2.6.15 and 2.6.16 installed? |
| 04:58.18 | frk2 | i just wanna know how to 1) get the DS3 into normal analog phones |
| 04:58.30 | expressfone1 | yes, and the same |
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| 04:58.47 | expressfone1 | remove 2.6.15 and the same |
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| 04:59.47 | expressfone1 | # rpm -qa|grep kernel |
| 04:59.47 | expressfone1 | kernel-2.6.16-1.2069_FC4 |
| 04:59.47 | expressfone1 | kernel-devel-2.6.16-1.2069_FC4 |
| 05:01.13 | x86 | err |
| 05:01.16 | x86 | i thought you said from source? |
| 05:01.21 | x86 | that's RPM man ;) |
| 05:01.51 | dlynes | x86, I said i installed from source, not him |
| 05:02.01 | expressfone1 | linux installed from .iso and updated by YUM |
| 05:02.09 | x86 | [22:44] expressfone1i´m install from source |
| 05:02.17 | expressfone1 | asterisk |
| 05:02.20 | x86 | ah |
| 05:03.44 | batman2 | anybody having problems connecting to SIP to AAH? |
| 05:03.50 | batman2 | with a PAP2-NA? |
| 05:04.28 | x86 | batman2: it would be better to describe your problem than to ask if anyone is doing the same thing :) |
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| 05:05.49 | frk2 | x86 - have you worked with ds3 before? |
| 05:05.59 | frk2 | I've only used it for bandwidth |
| 05:06.08 | x86 | yeah me too |
| 05:06.11 | x86 | well |
| 05:06.12 | frk2 | or channelized DS3 or PRI from telcos |
| 05:06.26 | frk2 | but i dont know what im gonna do with a DS3 coming OUT of the asterisk box |
| 05:06.30 | x86 | i've done a channelized DS3 where i split off (2) DS1's for voice and used the rest for data |
| 05:06.43 | frk2 | sure- |
| 05:06.45 | frk2 | thats no problem |
| 05:06.58 | frk2 | my issue is that i wanna use the asterisk box as a PBX for 800 analog phones |
| 05:07.02 | [av]bani | frk2: admire the bnc connectors |
| 05:07.16 | x86 | frk2: *one* asterisk box? |
| 05:07.26 | x86 | that's a shitpod of traffic for a single box to handle ;) |
| 05:07.40 | frk2 | the solution i am building involves like 40 rhino channels banks , 10 digium quad PRI cards and like 5 servers |
| 05:07.49 | kimosabe | frk to run 800 phones run a nortel opcion 11 |
| 05:07.50 | [av]bani | o.o |
| 05:07.57 | frk2 | 5 xeons |
| 05:08.11 | [av]bani | sounds scary and creaky |
| 05:08.27 | frk2 | its a bad idea? |
| 05:09.00 | frk2 | theoretically it should be a problem |
| 05:09.07 | x86 | frk2: xeons are awesome |
| 05:09.09 | frk2 | i know a xeon can handle 8 PRIs |
| 05:09.21 | frk2 | at say 60% utilization very well atleast |
| 05:09.29 | x86 | frk2: use (2) dual-core xeons per box and you can probably cut it down to 3 servers |
| 05:09.40 | frk2 | 64 bit dudes? |
| 05:09.42 | frk2 | yeah |
| 05:09.43 | frk2 | but |
| 05:09.45 | frk2 | my point is |
| 05:09.49 | frk2 | is that the ONLY solution |
| 05:09.56 | frk2 | cuz that'll take like a couple of racks |
| 05:10.15 | batman2 | I can't connect to AAH, while using x-lite, i can... |
| 05:10.23 | x86 | frk2: 1 rack |
| 05:10.27 | frk2 | okay fine |
| 05:10.30 | frk2 | :) |
| 05:10.33 | frk2 | still a LOT of hardware |
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| 05:10.41 | x86 | frk2: 3 4U servers, then you have 30U left :) |
| 05:10.42 | frk2 | its gonna be as big a seimens highpath |
| 05:10.52 | batman2 | I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong, considering the fact that when I use X-Lite or Pro, it works perfectly |
| 05:10.52 | frk2 | i hate proprietary pbx's |
| 05:10.59 | x86 | frk2: it'll be reliable as a tank though ;) |
| 05:11.03 | batman2 | now, I'm trying to use the phone adapter, so i can use my old phones... |
| 05:11.04 | frk2 | batman2- what doesnt work? |
| 05:11.08 | batman2 | it wouldn't connect |
| 05:11.16 | linlin | how can i disable my ZAP x100p card from picking up calls on the line its connected to, i want to use it only for outgoing... |
| 05:11.17 | frk2 | what the seimens or asterisk? |
| 05:11.29 | batman2 | PAP2-NA -> Asterisk@home |
| 05:11.48 | dlynes | linlin, give it a context that doesn't have anything in it |
| 05:11.48 | frk2 | the seimens WILL be rock solid |
| 05:11.53 | frk2 | heck it better be |
| 05:12.09 | frk2 | they have been selling these hunk of metals for the last 30 years |
| 05:12.22 | x86 | seimens is junk ;) |
| 05:12.23 | frk2 | but cost 4-5 times as much |
| 05:12.26 | x86 | nortel is way better man |
| 05:12.41 | frk2 | well nortel would be like 8 times more expensive than asterisk |
| 05:12.46 | frk2 | and lack cool ass features |
| 05:13.02 | kimosabe | frk nortell runs t-1 e-1 lease lines direct |
| 05:13.21 | x86 | kimosabe: so does an asterisk box with a single port T1 card ;) |
| 05:13.22 | frk2 | what do you mean kimosabe? |
| 05:13.39 | frk2 | yeah man.. asterisk with T1/E1 rulz |
| 05:13.43 | frk2 | ive had no problems |
| 05:13.52 | frk2 | but i've never put up a pbx THIS mammoth in size |
| 05:14.01 | kimosabe | x86 true it does |
| 05:14.32 | frk2 | so 40 rhinos and 10 digium quad T1's it is |
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| 05:14.53 | frk2 | i just wanted to confirm cuz i thought that was retardedly large |
| 05:15.03 | kimosabe | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:15.30 | frk2 | they're not IP dude |
| 05:15.41 | frk2 | 800 ANALOG POTS phones |
| 05:15.48 | kimosabe | just put a quad interface e-t t-1 card in pc and put a digital interface on yourepbx and join it to any thing |
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| 05:17.00 | kimosabe | in othere words just use any type of pbx on the market and join it to youre t-1 or e-1 for multiple chanels |
| 05:17.35 | frk2 | kimosabe thats the point.. the point is complete replacement with asterisk |
| 05:18.24 | kimosabe | frk but can you get nice digital phones running with astersik |
| 05:18.33 | kimosabe | i think all offices want that feture |
| 05:19.13 | frk2 | oh yeah- for the 'digital' part we're just providing IP phones |
| 05:19.43 | frk2 | no digital phone beats a good IP phone |
| 05:19.56 | frk2 | this is a VERY LARGE office |
| 05:20.05 | frk2 | 800 analog phones and 300 IP phones |
| 05:20.05 | kimosabe | thaty what im talking about panasonic 6/24 runs 630 dlls with digital fetures |
| 05:20.31 | kimosabe | anbd you can casdace several unuits |
| 05:20.38 | kimosabe | cacade |
| 05:21.16 | frk2 | panasonic 6/24 runs 630 lines? |
| 05:21.55 | kimosabe | no but a td 500 does |
| 05:22.12 | kimosabe | and that one runs 500 pots |
| 05:22.23 | frk2 | whats a td 500? |
| 05:22.44 | frk2 | the full name |
| 05:22.46 | kimosabe | its another panasonic pbx |
| 05:22.51 | kimosabe | it runs digital also |
| 05:23.07 | kimosabe | more less a 500 line set up about 45000 dlls |
| 05:23.07 | dlynes | frk2, td500 probably is the full name |
| 05:23.17 | kimosabe | panasonic td500 |
| 05:23.44 | dlynes | frk2, panasonic crap is all tdxxx, tvmxxx, ... |
| 05:24.41 | frk2 | googling |
| 05:24.43 | frk2 | :) |
| 05:25.58 | frk2 | could do that |
| 05:26.06 | frk2 | but then all the cool asterisk features are lost again |
| 05:26.29 | frk2 | you basically end up with TWO separate PBXs |
| 05:26.46 | expressfone1 | 2.6.15-1.1833_FC4 with zaptel-1.2.5 running great, no symlink needed |
| 05:26.55 | kimosabe | frk2 what you do is nbot reivent the wheel you just use it acordingly |
| 05:27.14 | kimosabe | frk2 asterisk is great and it rocks |
| 05:27.20 | kimosabe | its inexpensive |
| 05:27.36 | kimosabe | i use it for branch offices and i have replaced many cisco and motorolla set ups |
| 05:27.54 | kimosabe | in fact i have ciscos conecting 2 my asterisk boxes |
| 05:28.09 | expressfone1 | i think there a issue with zaptel-1.2.5 installing modules on 2.6.16-1.2069_FC4 |
| 05:28.46 | kimosabe | but for a corporation id use a real pbx that uses memory intead of hard drive space its more stable |
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| 05:29.06 | frk2 | agreed |
| 05:29.08 | Piza | hi there |
| 05:29.15 | frk2 | but these are GOOD servers |
| 05:29.19 | kimosabe | some of my pbxs been running for 1o yrs with out a problem can a pc run for 10 yrs with no problems |
| 05:29.24 | frk2 | RPSU, 3 x RAID 5 scsi |
| 05:29.26 | expressfone1 | i think there a issue with zaptel-1.2.5 installing modules on 2.6.16-1.2069_FC4 |
| 05:29.34 | expressfone1 | :S |
| 05:29.40 | kimosabe | yes asterisk is the shit |
| 05:29.56 | frk2 | kimosabe - sure it can |
| 05:30.04 | frk2 | just need to invest in redundancy |
| 05:30.17 | kimosabe | yes i guess youre right |
| 05:30.24 | frk2 | i have mail servers running for 5 years |
| 05:30.33 | frk2 | poor intel p-iii's |
| 05:30.34 | kimosabe | i do also i use freebsd |
| 05:30.46 | frk2 | the mail servers are freebsd too |
| 05:30.53 | frk2 | though ive never have stability issues with linux |
| 05:30.55 | kimosabe | yes mine are |
| 05:30.58 | frk2 | just usually hardware faults |
| 05:31.02 | Piza | pls is possibble to run Billion S0 ISDN card on Asterisk@home 2.7 ??? |
| 05:31.26 | expressfone1 | no problem here with 7 year old mailserver runing on IDE HDD |
| 05:31.38 | kimosabe | tru true |
| 05:31.51 | frk2 | my 6 year old used firewall died though |
| 05:31.59 | frk2 | a few days ago |
| 05:32.13 | kimosabe | but i think mail servers use very little resources as to asterisk servers incomparison |
| 05:32.26 | frk2 | kimosabe - not these mail servers |
| 05:32.30 | kimosabe | just make a call and run top and ull see |
| 05:32.55 | frk2 | these were mail + antivirus+ antispam routing 20,000+ messages a day |
| 05:33.17 | kimosabe | frk i have mail server from one office it runs ofe 4000 mail per day and it uses 13 % of procesor and at that its a 300 mghz procesor been up for 4 yrs |
| 05:33.28 | frk2 | exactly dude |
| 05:33.37 | frk2 | asterisk is no different than a mail server to a CPU |
| 05:33.48 | frk2 | ive never seen asterisk CRASH under load or anything |
| 05:33.49 | kimosabe | routing uses ver little resource |
| 05:34.02 | kimosabe | but it uses a lot becuse of codecs etc |
| 05:34.08 | kimosabe | all the conversions |
| 05:34.14 | frk2 | true that |
| 05:34.20 | frk2 | but that doesnt harm the cpu |
| 05:34.22 | frk2 | its made for that shit |
| 05:34.23 | frk2 | :) |
| 05:35.05 | frk2 | my question basically was - is using 40 rhinos distributed over 7-9 servers ANY different from using 4 rhinos on a single server |
| 05:35.17 | frk2 | basically is it a stupid idea |
| 05:35.31 | kimosabe | ive personally never use rinos what interface do they have rj45 or serial |
| 05:35.42 | frk2 | rhinos work great |
| 05:35.44 | frk2 | its a channel bank |
| 05:35.46 | frk2 | so T1 |
| 05:35.57 | kimosabe | 24 chanels |
| 05:36.05 | kimosabe | ok what interface do they have ? |
| 05:36.17 | frk2 | T1/rj45 |
| 05:36.29 | frk2 | going to the asterisk |
| 05:36.40 | frk2 | and then it has a connected where 24 pairs come out |
| 05:36.45 | frk2 | for connecting to a patch panel |
| 05:36.49 | frk2 | and then to POTS phones |
| 05:37.03 | kimosabe | ok whats the cost for 4 chanel banks and a quad card |
| 05:37.04 | kimosabe | ? |
| 05:37.29 | frk2 | $1600 + $1800*4 |
| 05:37.49 | frk2 | $8000 |
| 05:38.01 | kimosabe | thas a lot of money for 96 trunks |
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| 05:38.20 | frk2 | well |
| 05:38.21 | frk2 | not really |
| 05:38.34 | frk2 | a shit panasonic would run you $6000 atleast |
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| 05:39.05 | frk2 | dont even compare to nortels now |
| 05:39.11 | kimosabe | you imagiune having 800 ip lines |
| 05:39.33 | frk2 | oh yeah |
| 05:39.38 | frk2 | its a $170,000 solution |
| 05:39.40 | kimosabe | youed need 6.4 meg to get them on line |
| 05:40.18 | frk2 | why would i wanna get them online? |
| 05:40.20 | kimosabe | frk and if you get a motorolla |
| 05:40.37 | kimosabe | and multiplex all that data to an asterisk box ? |
| 05:41.04 | frk2 | one asterisk box doesnt cut it |
| 05:41.07 | frk2 | i need atleast 6-7 |
| 05:41.40 | frk2 | heres the low down |
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| 05:41.49 | frk2 | panasonic = $350/port |
| 05:41.54 | frk2 | nortel = $900/port |
| 05:42.00 | frk2 | cisco = $600/port |
| 05:42.03 | frk2 | asterisk = $200/port |
| 05:42.20 | frk2 | so price really isnt the issue |
| 05:42.33 | kimosabe | frk listen with a motorolla router you can recieve 12/t-1 |
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| 05:43.29 | frk2 | hmmm |
| 05:43.30 | kimosabe | which in data trafic is 18.48 meg if all was up and running then run that 2 several boxes via rj45 100 megabit |
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| 05:43.43 | kimosabe | its cheaper |
| 05:43.48 | frk2 | is it like a gateway |
| 05:43.59 | kimosabe | t-1 card in motorola is bout 300 dlls a dual |
| 05:44.15 | kimosabe | and it suports 12 slots |
| 05:44.40 | kimosabe | and then you can chop it how ever you wish and send it where ever u eant |
| 05:44.40 | frk2 | no no wait... but then the motorolla needs to speak SIP / IAX to my asterisk |
| 05:44.46 | frk2 | data router wont do |
| 05:45.31 | kimosabe | frk rhino doesnt link via ip trafic after link |
| 05:45.38 | frk2 | last time i checked quad T1 SIP gateways were more expensive than xeon + quad digium |
| 05:45.46 | frk2 | kimosabe |
| 05:45.53 | frk2 | this is all CHANNELIZED T1 |
| 05:45.55 | frk2 | its not data |
| 05:46.05 | kimosabe | opps i wanted 2 multiplex it all |
| 05:46.09 | frk2 | i cant just shove channelized T1 into any data router |
| 05:46.14 | kimosabe | no good :( |
| 05:46.18 | frk2 | no way man |
| 05:46.35 | kimosabe | youre right |
| 05:47.30 | kimosabe | i think there has 2 be a way to add it all up though |
| 05:47.35 | kimosabe | anbd chop it up |
| 05:47.37 | Damin | Juggie: Yeah.. it is, but still.. :) You can't build something with it that will compete pricewise w/ something like an Audiocodes or Quintum media gateway.. |
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| 05:48.38 | frk2 | kimosabe- maybe |
| 05:48.43 | frk2 | i have no idea though |
| 05:48.51 | frk2 | everybody i know just used T1 gateways |
| 05:49.03 | frk2 | which are really no better than using digium cards in a PC |
| 05:49.35 | kimosabe | frk i chop trafic all the time but in this one you got me but im shure there is a way maybe through a rad mux box |
| 05:49.49 | frk2 | data is no prob |
| 05:49.55 | frk2 | channelized T1s are diff |
| 05:50.09 | frk2 | see port 1 MUST always send data in the 1st channel |
| 05:50.12 | kimosabe | its all the same its packets |
| 05:50.41 | frk2 | definitely |
| 05:50.48 | frk2 | i dont know how to though |
| 05:50.58 | frk2 | maybe you can mux them together into channelized ds3 or something |
| 05:51.22 | frk2 | Is there a reason why digium's DS-3000 is not on their website anymore? |
| 05:51.38 | kimosabe | frk you have several links with t-1 digium card ? |
| 05:52.15 | kimosabe | what the cost a a t-1 pri with 50 did |
| 05:52.47 | batman2 | ill pay somebody $50 bucks to configure my PAP2-NA with my AAH for me |
| 05:53.47 | Abydos313 | batman2 who is your provider? they probably have forums with howto with asterisk. alot of them do |
| 05:54.15 | batman2 | teliax... |
| 05:54.22 | batman2 | im using them to connect to my box |
| 05:54.28 | batman2 | and from there, i break down the extension |
| 05:54.28 | Abydos313 | 100% that one exists |
| 05:54.41 | kimosabe | whas the best device some one is using that runs qos for site with much trafic |
| 05:54.57 | bkw__ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtfSEWzUW9g&search=gay%20sex |
| 05:54.57 | batman2 | and the the PAP2-NA is just another extension |
| 05:54.59 | bkw__ | hahahaha |
| 05:55.14 | Qwell | bkw__: sicko |
| 05:55.21 | bkw__ | hahahahaha |
| 05:55.24 | Abydos313 | exactly, it becomes an extension to the asterisk box |
| 05:55.25 | bkw__ | its funny as hell boi |
| 05:56.36 | bkw__ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcmNjv4YQzg that one is funny too |
| 05:57.08 | Qwell | silly bkw__, you know us amd64 users can't do flash :P |
| 05:57.08 | batman2 | right, so i tried using that extension i want to use with the PAP2-NA with x-lite it works and connects fine |
| 05:57.37 | bkw__ | Qwell, get a real OS |
| 05:57.47 | *** join/#asterisk FuriousGeorge (n=brian@ool-43536ea8.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 05:57.50 | Qwell | bkw__: I use beos |
| 05:57.52 | FuriousGeorge | hey all |
| 05:57.58 | FuriousGeorge | Qwell: stop lieing |
| 05:58.02 | FuriousGeorge | i love beos |
| 05:58.03 | bkw__ | hahahha http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn9Gb_p0vFk |
| 05:58.13 | bkw__ | gay sims |
| 05:58.18 | Qwell | wtf? |
| 05:58.26 | FuriousGeorge | what? |
| 05:58.30 | FuriousGeorge | you dont really use beos |
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| 05:59.27 | FuriousGeorge | do you? |
| 05:59.33 | bkw__ | NO |
| 05:59.37 | bkw__ | he's lame and uses linux |
| 05:59.53 | FuriousGeorge | what do you use bkw_ ? |
| 06:00.01 | bkw__ | I'm a Mac Users |
| 06:00.02 | Qwell | FuriousGeorge: mac, obviously |
| 06:00.15 | bkw__ | a REAL os |
| 06:00.18 | FuriousGeorge | i was hoping he was gonna say beos too :) |
| 06:00.19 | bkw__ | and a REAL computer |
| 06:00.26 | bkw__ | I'm on my MacBook Pro right now |
| 06:00.35 | bkw__ | its nice having a dual core laptop with 2 gigs of ram |
| 06:00.40 | bkw__ | matches my dual core imac with 2 gigs of ram also |
| 06:01.09 | bkw__ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCd4CQYGGO0&feature=Views&page=5&t=t&f=b |
| 06:01.18 | justinu | i got 2 gig also |
| 06:01.26 | bkw__ | 2 gigs is nice |
| 06:01.42 | FuriousGeorge | i never fill up one |
| 06:01.48 | FuriousGeorge | i need to play more video games |
| 06:01.52 | Qwell | run pan |
| 06:01.55 | Qwell | for like 5 minutes |
| 06:01.58 | Qwell | you'll use 2gb easy |
| 06:02.00 | bkw__ | you might you just don't knwo it :P |
| 06:02.08 | FuriousGeorge | lol |
| 06:02.49 | bkw__ | but you do know I got 5000+ sip calls without media on asterisk once |
| 06:02.54 | bkw__ | talk about not pretty :P |
| 06:02.59 | bkw__ | don't dare do show channels |
| 06:04.03 | justinu | heh |
| 06:04.46 | FuriousGeorge | so i got this one box, that when its external ip changes the only way to get remote peers back is to stop and start asterisk (restarting doesnt work) |
| 06:04.56 | FuriousGeorge | should i panic? |
| 06:05.06 | bkw__ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C19hMuxpWRo |
| 06:05.07 | bkw__ | hahahahah |
| 06:05.39 | FuriousGeorge | that wouldnt bother me so much, except sometimes a peer doesnt come back |
| 06:05.43 | FuriousGeorge | and remains unreachable |
| 06:06.20 | bkw__ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEMkrO5gJng |
| 06:06.20 | bkw__ | hahah |
| 06:06.47 | bkw__ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoeZ0_xIWKg |
| 06:07.00 | bkw__ | hahahahah |
| 06:07.00 | bkw__ | that hurt |
| 06:07.33 | FuriousGeorge | i just started the thing up and my provider peer didnt come back this time---> chan_iax2.c:7786 iax2_poke_noanswer: Peer 'NuFone' is now UNREACHABLE! Time: 0 |
| 06:07.45 | Qwell | bkw__: nice url |
| 06:08.11 | Qwell | hoeZ0? |
| 06:08.56 | FuriousGeorge | so i stopped waited and started again, and this time they all came back... but for how long? |
| 06:09.12 | FuriousGeorge | i asked on asterisk.users and no one seems to know... am i just sol? |
| 06:09.22 | Qwell | FuriousGeorge: use dns |
| 06:09.30 | FuriousGeorge | i do |
| 06:09.42 | Qwell | and you use externhost? |
| 06:09.44 | FuriousGeorge | foo1.dynu.com foo2.dynu.com foo3.dynu.com |
| 06:09.45 | FuriousGeorge | yeah |
| 06:09.54 | FuriousGeorge | its just this one box |
| 06:10.00 | FuriousGeorge | the other three play nice with eachother |
| 06:10.07 | FuriousGeorge | just gotta reload iax2 when ip changes |
| 06:10.23 | FuriousGeorge | externhost is sip isnt it.... all my peers are iax anyway |
| 06:10.30 | FuriousGeorge | or at least the ones im caring about |
| 06:10.42 | FuriousGeorge | or, rather, the ones giving me problems. sip works fine |
| 06:10.46 | FuriousGeorge | on all servers |
| 06:11.25 | Qwell | use sip then :P |
| 06:11.36 | FuriousGeorge | :( |
| 06:12.08 | FuriousGeorge | iax.conf doesnt like externhost, does it? |
| 06:12.39 | bkw__ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cSRpu7bI04 |
| 06:12.46 | [av]bani | \o/ |
| 06:12.47 | bkw__ | iax doesn't need externhost |
| 06:13.09 | FuriousGeorge | well mine needs a good kick in the pants |
| 06:13.37 | FuriousGeorge | how much does it tax the server to make iax into sip, anyway? |
| 06:16.31 | bkw__ | it doesn't really |
| 06:16.55 | Qwell | iax-sip is basically the same as iax-iax or sip-sip |
| 06:17.18 | bkw__ | well you're converting from udp iax to rtp |
| 06:17.19 | bkw__ | and back |
| 06:17.21 | FuriousGeorge | i hate the thought of switching everything to sip just cuz this one box acts wierd |
| 06:17.25 | Qwell | bkw__: well, yeah |
| 06:17.31 | bkw__ | sip is actually better under load |
| 06:17.34 | Qwell | but that's minimal |
| 06:17.47 | FuriousGeorge | *weird |
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| 06:17.52 | Qwell | FuriousGeorge: get static IPs |
| 06:18.01 | kmilitzer | Morning everyone ... |
| 06:18.02 | FuriousGeorge | for all four boxes that comes out to 1k a year |
| 06:18.21 | FuriousGeorge | and even when it has the right ip it cant find the other box, so theres a chance that wont even help |
| 06:18.24 | Qwell | ~$25/box/month |
| 06:18.30 | Qwell | sounds about right |
| 06:19.25 | FuriousGeorge | right now i just have it check if chan is avail and if not have it use pots, but even if i had the thing restart once a day, this one box's peers just cant be found again without a break |
| 06:19.30 | FuriousGeorge | its the damnedest thing |
| 06:19.38 | FuriousGeorge | actually i use dialstatus |
| 06:20.03 | FuriousGeorge | maybe its my web proxy but i think i turned that off already |
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| 06:22.52 | FuriousGeorge | its off :| |
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| 06:30.57 | bkw__ | hahaha http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7fgsYt6kcw |
| 06:35.19 | bkw__ | ok this is so wrong http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4I_70BU3x-Q |
| 06:35.30 | bkw__ | celine dion imitating madonna - papa don't preach |
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| 06:39.31 | Creperum | hi! can anyone tell me, what softphone is the best? ) |
| 06:39.46 | Creperum | i mean only GNU |
| 06:41.51 | frk2 | Sjphone |
| 06:41.53 | frk2 | love it |
| 06:41.57 | bkw__ | sjphone sucks |
| 06:42.00 | tsume | Creperum: you mean just opensource? |
| 06:42.00 | frk2 | haha |
| 06:42.02 | frk2 | why man |
| 06:42.03 | tsume | heh |
| 06:42.08 | Creperum | yes |
| 06:42.12 | bkw__ | its too hard to configure last I checked |
| 06:42.13 | Creperum | like diax |
| 06:42.15 | frk2 | for winblows its the best |
| 06:42.17 | bkw__ | I don't wanna have to dig for settings |
| 06:42.18 | tsume | why do all these kids think opensource is always better than closed source :) |
| 06:42.19 | tsume | its not |
| 06:42.35 | tsume | Gimp is like PhotoShop 1 :) |
| 06:42.44 | bkw__ | gimp is like mac paint |
| 06:42.49 | bkw__ | don't give it that much credit please |
| 06:42.50 | tsume | bkw__: bingo |
| 06:42.52 | frk2 | oh come on |
| 06:42.55 | frk2 | gimp is pretty good |
| 06:43.01 | bkw__ | no its not |
| 06:43.03 | Creperum | tsume: where do you see kids? |
| 06:43.06 | tsume | frk2: you obviously haven't used photoshop to its max |
| 06:43.07 | frk2 | my marketing guy has a ball with gimp |
| 06:43.12 | orlock | bkw__: are you a pro graphics designer? |
| 06:43.12 | tsume | Creperum: all over :S |
| 06:43.15 | frk2 | im sure i havent |
| 06:43.17 | bkw__ | tell him to stop playing with his balls |
| 06:43.24 | frk2 | but my guy can design VERY cool shit with gimp |
| 06:43.31 | bkw__ | orlock, I can hold my own in photoshop and do some pretty amazing things |
| 06:43.33 | frk2 | so if it gets the job done- its good |
| 06:43.36 | tsume | tell him to stop playing with his balls and get a female dog ;) |
| 06:43.50 | tsume | frk2: thats the thing, it doesn't get the job done right |
| 06:43.52 | bkw__ | I know pretty much all the keyboard short cuts and everything i need to get around |
| 06:44.02 | tsume | there are things which takes literally houirs with gimp which ps can do in seconds |
| 06:44.09 | frk2 | yeah exactly |
| 06:44.11 | frk2 | thats true |
| 06:44.11 | tsume | especially perspective shaping to objects |
| 06:44.13 | orlock | and vice versa |
| 06:44.18 | frk2 | thats true with most open source solutions |
| 06:44.20 | tsume | orlock: no, not visa versa |
| 06:44.24 | orlock | does ps have the scripting capability, etc? |
| 06:44.28 | tsume | orlock: ps has everything plus more. |
| 06:44.30 | Qwell | Nugget: ^^ |
| 06:44.34 | orlock | so photoshop has its own script-fu? |
| 06:44.37 | tsume | orlock: its called, make a plugin |
| 06:44.44 | orlock | but it doesnt come with it? |
| 06:44.55 | orlock | ... |
| 06:44.57 | orlock | make a plug in |
| 06:44.57 | frk2 | dude |
| 06:44.58 | orlock | sure |
| 06:44.58 | frk2 | its free |
| 06:45.00 | tsume | orlock: developers kit comes with it |
| 06:45.01 | frk2 | give it a break |
| 06:45.02 | frk2 | :) |
| 06:45.04 | orlock | wheres the compiler and api documentation? |
| 06:45.08 | *** join/#asterisk sergeus (n=s@195.112.98.13) |
| 06:45.13 | orlock | dont ell me PS has everything gimp has. |
| 06:45.14 | orlock | :P |
| 06:45.23 | tsume | orlock: like people know how to use pythong always? |
| 06:45.24 | frk2 | in my country a license for photoshop feeds 50 hungry people a day |
| 06:45.34 | orlock | man |
| 06:45.35 | bkw__ | pythong? |
| 06:45.37 | orlock | doesnt it taste bad? |
| 06:45.38 | bkw__ | do you wear those? |
| 06:45.43 | frk2 | pythong |
| 06:45.43 | tsume | frk2: well call me a greedy little money animal |
| 06:45.44 | frk2 | LOL |
| 06:45.48 | orlock | hah |
| 06:45.49 | orlock | ok |
| 06:45.52 | *** join/#asterisk Mr-packet (n=a@222-153-26-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) |
| 06:45.52 | bkw__ | you're all daft mmkay |
| 06:45.54 | bkw__ | moving on |
| 06:45.58 | orlock | its after 5:30' time to sod orf home |
| 06:46.03 | tsume | I want guido to perform in a music video to the sisko theme |
| 06:46.18 | tsume | then show it in public as a ruby propaganda ;) |
| 06:46.25 | Strom_C | hi |
| 06:46.33 | bkw__ | If I hear ruby on rails.. i'm gonna scream |
| 06:46.37 | bkw__ | that and ajax |
| 06:46.38 | bkw__ | damn it |
| 06:46.40 | tsume | screw RoR |
| 06:46.42 | bkw__ | hype |
| 06:46.43 | bkw__ | hype |
| 06:46.45 | tsume | exactly |
| 06:46.50 | tsume | I use Ruby + nitro |
| 06:46.52 | Mr-packet | whats a sensible way of building an ISDN PRI rate to SIP gateway |
| 06:46.59 | tsume | I believe in a framework which is designed in a sensible way |
| 06:47.02 | denon | bkw_: haha .. I just spent a couple days trying to convince someone that RoR is just hype |
| 06:47.07 | bkw__ | and If I hear another buzz word spouting moron I think i'm gonna strangle them |
| 06:47.17 | *** join/#asterisk Op3r (n=op3r@202.71.189.66) |
| 06:47.26 | bkw__ | We need to syngergize our vertical markets |
| 06:47.33 | bkw__ | BLOW ME |
| 06:47.35 | bkw__ | NEXT!!! |
| 06:47.47 | tsume | C# :) |
| 06:47.49 | bkw__ | BLOW ME |
| 06:48.04 | denon | we need to consolidate our development strategies .. we need to make better use of GROUPWARE .. |
| 06:48.04 | tsume | no thank you, I'm male and not intrested in male relationships |
| 06:48.06 | bkw__ | thats another lame reason to not learn a real language |
| 06:48.52 | denon | web and all |
| 06:48.59 | bkw__ | what a waste of time |
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| 06:49.04 | tsume | hehe |
| 06:49.11 | bkw__ | denon, is just joking |
| 06:49.12 | denon | tedious, but after 3 weeks of hard work .. you're really proud of that hello world |
| 06:49.14 | bkw__ | I know he is |
| 06:49.26 | bkw__ | because not even a moron would try to code everything in ASM |
| 06:49.31 | bkw__ | not very portable eh? |
| 06:49.48 | denon | bkw_: you've gotta admit, the world would be a better place if all our low-level stuff was :) |
| 06:50.00 | denon | well, assuming the devs were competent |
| 06:50.18 | bkw__ | I have learned that most projects don't write good code |
| 06:50.22 | bkw__ | cross platform code |
| 06:50.32 | bkw__ | nor do they even bother with trying to make it run on anything but linux |
| 06:50.39 | bkw__ | sofiasip is one |
| 06:50.41 | denon | screw cross-platform, just build it for freebsd on x64 |
| 06:50.49 | denon | cheap hardware, good OS |
| 06:50.51 | bkw__ | denon, dork cross platform is easy |
| 06:50.54 | frk2 | lol |
| 06:50.59 | bkw__ | we did it with freeswitch |
| 06:51.21 | bkw__ | we compile on Windows, Linux, Mac OSX/Darwin, OpenBSD, NetBSD, FreeBSD, Solaris and Linux/x64 |
| 06:51.36 | bkw__ | I even have it built in xcode on the mac |
| 06:51.37 | frk2 | what sucks worse is people writing business apps in Visual Basic |
| 06:51.42 | bkw__ | OH MY GOD |
| 06:51.44 | bkw__ | thats totally lame |
| 06:51.45 | bkw__ | VB |
| 06:51.46 | bkw__ | RUN |
| 06:51.47 | bkw__ | RUn |
| 06:51.51 | frk2 | guaranteed not to run on anything else than windows |
| 06:51.51 | tsume | VB blows |
| 06:51.57 | frk2 | oh dude so much |
| 06:51.57 | tsume | long live C# programming |
| 06:52.01 | tsume | winforms forever |
| 06:52.01 | bkw__ | oh lord |
| 06:52.01 | frk2 | hahah |
| 06:52.07 | frk2 | see |
| 06:52.12 | frk2 | one thing is the language blows |
| 06:52.15 | *** join/#asterisk shifter (n=shifter@flotsam.internetofdeath.com) |
| 06:52.20 | tsume | and as soon as mono gets good with winforms, for the whole project away from novell |
| 06:52.21 | bkw__ | it blows |
| 06:52.22 | frk2 | fine- many languages blow i can live with that |
| 06:52.22 | Qwell | nah, c# is alright |
| 06:52.26 | bkw__ | I rather like C and Perl |
| 06:52.27 | shifter | when you have exten => 8500,n,Hangup what does the n mean? i know what i means if there is a numerical value. i can't find what n means in the docs though |
| 06:52.28 | bkw__ | mmkay |
| 06:52.37 | bkw__ | n = next priority |
| 06:52.46 | frk2 | but you are SO damn locked with windows for a BUSINESS app |
| 06:52.51 | bkw__ | so its based on the previous one |
| 06:52.51 | denon | bkw_: C doesnt really lend itself to RAD in the business user app world |
| 06:52.52 | frk2 | thats just not right |
| 06:52.58 | tsume | frk2: C# is good |
| 06:53.00 | bkw__ | denon, oh really? |
| 06:53.07 | bkw__ | what crack are you smoking boi |
| 06:53.08 | frk2 | long live php |
| 06:53.13 | frk2 | :) |
| 06:53.17 | tsume | frk2: even with glade, you can embed the glade file in the executable |
| 06:53.18 | bkw__ | php needs to stay the fuck on the web and out of my shell |
| 06:53.25 | frk2 | hahah |
| 06:53.30 | denon | bkw_: I can do more in 3 lines of c# than I can in 10 lines of C |
| 06:53.32 | bkw__ | shell scripts in php |
| 06:53.33 | bkw__ | damn |
| 06:53.41 | frk2 | yeah thats lame |
| 06:53.41 | denon | now, if I'm writing kernel drivers or something ... |
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| 06:53.46 | frk2 | bash is excellent |
| 06:53.48 | bkw__ | denon, its the same I can do hello world in one line |
| 06:53.56 | bkw__ | ok ok two lines |
| 06:53.58 | frk2 | every try hello world with Java |
| 06:54.00 | frk2 | ? |
| 06:54.04 | Qwell | ruby! .2 lines |
| 06:54.05 | frk2 | i was like are you fucking serious???? |
| 06:54.08 | denon | bkw_: yeah, but in c#, I dont need to think about memory management/etc |
| 06:54.13 | frk2 | 10 lines to write hello world |
| 06:54.13 | tsume | I support C# before I support java |
| 06:54.20 | tsume | C# is faster than java ;) |
| 06:54.21 | bkw__ | denon, you don't need to thnk about that if you use something like APR |
| 06:54.27 | frk2 | ruby is cool as shit |
| 06:54.27 | denon | tsume: that's pretty common, a lot of java converts to c# these days |
| 06:54.29 | bkw__ | or a memory management lib |
| 06:54.32 | shifter | bkw__: so i can keep doing n and only need actual numbers for things like jumps ? |
| 06:54.35 | bkw__ | we use APR |
| 06:54.41 | bkw__ | shifter, you use labels |
| 06:54.44 | tsume | denon: I've tried and used java once, it was horrible |
| 06:54.45 | bkw__ | go look that up |
| 06:54.50 | shifter | bkw__: ok. thanks |
| 06:54.52 | frk2 | yeah java sucks |
| 06:54.54 | tsume | denon: the jboss app I made was slow |
| 06:54.58 | Strom_C | bkw__! good to see you online :) |
| 06:54.59 | frk2 | i was doing JSPs before i moved to php |
| 06:55.03 | frk2 | php is way better |
| 06:55.06 | bkw__ | Strom_C, my man |
| 06:55.07 | denon | heh |
| 06:55.11 | tsume | frk2: ASP.NET is nice too |
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| 06:55.17 | denon | "php is way better" -- that doesn't give you much credibility :) |
| 06:55.32 | frk2 | than JSPs |
| 06:55.36 | frk2 | sure it is |
| 06:55.44 | frk2 | though i think i like ruby more |
| 06:55.46 | bkw__ | oh god what have I done |
| 06:55.54 | bkw__ | I have brought the wrath of dumb language wars |
| 06:55.56 | denon | that's like saying GW-Basic is way better than Q-Basic :) |
| 06:55.57 | tsume | ruby is slow |
| 06:56.01 | denon | or vice versa |
| 06:56.02 | tsume | wait until ruby 2.0 |
| 06:56.05 | frk2 | is ASP.NET cross platform? i could never figure out |
| 06:56.05 | bkw__ | ok everyone lets call this what it really is.. "MY DICK IS BIGGER THAN YOURS" |
| 06:56.09 | Strom_C | bkw__, dont worry, they'll kill each other off soon enough |
| 06:56.10 | bkw__ | so get the tape measure |
| 06:56.10 | tsume | frk2: yes |
| 06:56.22 | Strom_C | TEN INCHES |
| 06:56.25 | denon | bkw: everyone and their dog as seen yours .. you're not foolin' anyone |
| 06:56.26 | bkw__ | RIIIIGHT |
| 06:56.33 | frk2 | how would i run it on a linux server? |
| 06:56.40 | bkw__ | Strom_C, I didn't say from base around the head to the base again.... mmmkay |
| 06:56.44 | tsume | frk2: you could use mono :) |
| 06:56.51 | Strom_C | haha |
| 06:56.51 | tsume | mono implements C# and a ASP.NET server |
| 06:57.04 | bkw__ | tsume, I don't think the boss would like to hear "we have mono" mmmkay |
| 06:57.11 | bkw__ | just doesn't sit well |
| 06:57.33 | frk2 | hahahah bkw |
| 06:57.36 | bkw__ | need a tumbler of penicillium? |
| 06:57.36 | tsume | bkw__: well miguel de icaza is a doushe, he named it |
| 06:57.49 | frk2 | tsume - is mono supposed to be stable yet? |
| 06:57.56 | tsume | frk2: yes |
| 06:57.57 | dlynes | frk2, yes |
| 06:58.01 | tsume | frk2: its pretty good. |
| 06:58.05 | bkw__ | it sure as hell isn't very cross platform |
| 06:58.07 | dlynes | frk2, mod-mono is alpha, however |
| 06:58.19 | bkw__ | its got work still last I checked |
| 06:58.22 | frk2 | so mono gives you its own web server? |
| 06:58.26 | tsume | dlynes: mod-mono is a modified xsp |
| 06:58.29 | tsume | dlynes: its stable |
| 06:58.40 | dlynes | tsume, not according to freshmeat |
| 06:58.42 | tsume | frk2: xsp, yes. or you can use an apache module |
| 06:58.52 | bkw__ | ya know google should put the top three wikipedia articles that match your search query on the results page |
| 06:58.53 | frk2 | but he says the apache module aint sstable |
| 06:58.57 | tsume | dlynes: screw freshmeat, read the mono site |
| 06:59.20 | dlynes | tsume, ah...my friend had tried setting it up, and mod-mono crashed almost every single time on startup |
| 06:59.29 | dlynes | tsume, that was on mandrake 9.1 |
| 06:59.29 | bkw__ | I really really should get some sleep |
| 06:59.34 | bkw__ | so Strom_C where are the pictures? |
| 06:59.43 | Strom_C | pictures of what |
| 06:59.44 | tsume | dlynes: his fault |
| 06:59.47 | Op3r | [default] |
| 06:59.47 | Op3r | include => barge |
| 06:59.52 | bkw__ | Strom_C, that so called 10 inches |
| 06:59.56 | frk2 | dude crashing doesnt mean its not stable.. openafs crashed my laptop like 1000 times before we got it to work perfectly |
| 07:00.03 | bkw__ | frk2, wtf |
| 07:00.04 | tsume | dlynes: I'll repeat what the arrogant moron told me(miguel de icaza): |
| 07:00.05 | bkw__ | you're daft |
| 07:00.08 | tsume | one minute, I have logs |
| 07:00.10 | bkw__ | if it crashes it sure as fuck ain't stable |
| 07:00.13 | Strom_C | bkw__, :) |
| 07:00.23 | frk2 | dude it may crash for 100 reason |
| 07:00.25 | bkw__ | I dont' call crashing "stable" .. you asterisk folks might |
| 07:00.27 | bkw__ | but I don't |
| 07:00.27 | frk2 | reasons |
| 07:00.31 | dlynes | bkw_, no doubt :) |
| 07:00.41 | frk2 | wtf |
| 07:00.44 | frk2 | dudes |
| 07:00.48 | Qwell | bkw__: what? asterisk crashes? |
| 07:00.49 | bkw__ | crashing isn't an option for mission critical things like voip |
| 07:01.01 | bkw__ | Qwell, I can crash an asterisk box in under 20 seconds :P |
| 07:01.02 | frk2 | shit can crash if its not compiled with correct libraries |
| 07:01.06 | Qwell | bkw__: :p |
| 07:01.14 | bkw__ | frk2, bad build system then |
| 07:01.15 | frk2 | shit can also crash if using the wrong kernel, for example |
| 07:01.19 | bkw__ | WTF |
| 07:01.27 | frk2 | yeah obviously |
| 07:01.30 | bkw__ | now you're making me laugh |
| 07:01.40 | bkw__ | linux might |
| 07:01.40 | frk2 | why |
| 07:01.48 | bkw__ | because linux is crap too |
| 07:01.57 | frk2 | lol |
| 07:02.04 | frk2 | let me guess |
| 07:02.07 | frk2 | you use freebsd |
| 07:02.07 | bkw__ | I use linux but not by chohice |
| 07:02.12 | bkw__ | I have |
| 07:02.16 | bkw__ | but I don't have it in production right now |
| 07:02.20 | bkw__ | I have some OpenBSD and Solaris |
| 07:02.30 | frk2 | what do you think is not crap? if linux is |
| 07:02.38 | bkw__ | well you use what fits for the job |
| 07:02.40 | bkw__ | even if its linux |
| 07:03.24 | bkw__ | if freebsd fits better vs linux.. use freebsd. |
| 07:03.28 | [av]bani | linux sux use windows xp instead |
| 07:03.34 | frk2 | hahah |
| 07:03.42 | bkw__ | no I just will not put up with windows |
| 07:03.51 | frk2 | windows XP sp 2034 build 203.432.33.0.1 |
| 07:03.52 | bkw__ | I have no windows |
| 07:03.56 | [av]bani | linux is cool to hate |
| 07:03.57 | bkw__ | I have OS X |
| 07:04.05 | [av]bani | its hip & trendy to hate linux |
| 07:04.08 | dlynes | is asterisk stable on solaris on a sunsparc, or is it ported yet? |
| 07:04.16 | frk2 | hahah |
| 07:04.19 | bkw__ | dlynes, funny |
| 07:04.20 | frk2 | yeah man |
| 07:04.23 | frk2 | linux is awesome |
| 07:04.24 | bkw__ | Asterisk is linux centric and always will be |
| 07:04.29 | dlynes | bkw_, why is it funny? |
| 07:04.33 | bkw__ | its just a bonus if it actually compiles elsewhere |
| 07:04.41 | bkw__ | dlynes, asterisk on sparc |
| 07:04.47 | dlynes | bkw_, ah...yeah...it seems to be unstable as hell on freebsd |
| 07:04.51 | frk2 | asterisk runs well on bsd man |
| 07:04.53 | *** join/#asterisk Gunnar (n=gunnar@bkkb-gw.bitcon.no) |
| 07:04.55 | bkw__ | we did get freeswitch compiled with sun studio |
| 07:04.58 | frk2 | just forget about zaptel |
| 07:05.22 | dlynes | frk2, how can you forget about zaptel? you kinda need to be able to use a pri card |
| 07:05.34 | bkw__ | dlynes, no driers on anything but linux |
| 07:05.38 | bkw__ | bsd drivers suck for zaptel |
| 07:05.39 | denon | SIP, IAX, H323 |
| 07:05.41 | denon | SCCP |
| 07:05.44 | denon | etc |
| 07:05.46 | dlynes | bkw_, there's drivers on freebsd, too |
| 07:05.51 | bkw__ | yes and they blow hard |
| 07:05.57 | denon | you dont *need* any hardware |
| 07:05.57 | dlynes | bkw_, exactly my point |
| 07:06.00 | bkw__ | not very stable last I was told |
| 07:06.01 | tsume | "07:34 <@miguel> Well, none of those are generating any revenue to Novell, and none of those would bring more develoeprs to Mono" |
| 07:06.28 | dlynes | bkw_, but asterisk doesn't seem to be terribly stable on bsd, either |
| 07:06.31 | tsume | mono project feels its only responsibility is to SuSE :) |
| 07:06.48 | tsume | as for anyone else, it gets a big "send patches or stfu" |
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| 07:07.13 | frk2 | asterisk would really suck without zaptel thought |
| 07:07.20 | frk2 | PSTN interface is key |
| 07:07.20 | tsume | and if you don't agree, you get booted. Epsecially when miguel thinks of a different wrong opinion |
| 07:07.54 | bkw__ | thats why we'll have Windows, Mac, BSD and Solaris on freeswitch :P |
| 07:08.37 | bkw__ | oh and linux :P |
| 07:08.48 | [av]bani | sip is the only way to go :P |
| 07:08.55 | Qwell | [av]bani: traitor! |
| 07:09.07 | bkw__ | traitor? |
| 07:09.07 | [av]bani | Qwell: give me a reason to use sccp :P |
| 07:09.07 | tsume | bkw__: :) |
| 07:09.12 | bkw__ | ZERO |
| 07:09.15 | bkw__ | next!!! |
| 07:09.16 | Qwell | [av]bani: because it won't suck soon! :p |
| 07:09.20 | tsume | bkw__: hail the power of BSD! |
| 07:09.24 | [av]bani | soon isnt good enough! |
| 07:09.31 | bkw__ | ok the only issue I have with chan_sccp is that DUDE you make libsccp then you build chan_sccp |
| 07:09.37 | bkw__ | you don't put all the code in the damn channel driver |
| 07:09.39 | bkw__ | shit |
| 07:09.45 | bkw__ | same with chan_sip |
| 07:09.49 | bkw__ | libsip shoudl have been created |
| 07:09.50 | bkw__ | but NO |
| 07:10.00 | Qwell | bkw__: chan_sccp is lame. Sergio is an ass |
| 07:10.10 | Qwell | screw him.. |
| 07:10.14 | [av]bani | Qwell aspires to be like sergio |
| 07:10.25 | frk2 | screw sccp totally |
| 07:10.30 | frk2 | just sip |
| 07:10.32 | frk2 | or iax |
| 07:10.35 | Qwell | frk2: You've obviously never used skinny |
| 07:10.44 | Qwell | sccp seriously rocks |
| 07:10.45 | frk2 | i havent |
| 07:10.48 | frk2 | really? |
| 07:10.51 | [av]bani | sccp is the protocol from hell |
| 07:10.52 | frk2 | how so |
| 07:11.00 | Qwell | frk2: it does things SIP can only dream of |
| 07:11.01 | [av]bani | do not listen to the qwell robot |
| 07:11.04 | [av]bani | he is malfunctioning |
| 07:11.08 | frk2 | hahahaha |
| 07:11.12 | Qwell | dynamic softkeys, etc |
| 07:11.17 | [av]bani | do you have stairs in your house |
| 07:11.34 | frk2 | dynamic softkeys? |
| 07:11.37 | Qwell | indeed |
| 07:11.47 | frk2 | what does that mean? |
| 07:11.47 | [av]bani | sccp has them, too bad NOTHING USES THEM |
| 07:12.11 | frk2 | oh you mean keys on your phone can do dynamic shit on the pbx? |
| 07:12.28 | [av]bani | it means asterisk drives the phone directly |
| 07:12.42 | Qwell | [av]bani: yet :) |
| 07:12.44 | denon | like a winmodem <G> |
| 07:12.45 | frk2 | sure |
| 07:12.47 | Qwell | nothing uses them YET :) |
| 07:12.50 | [av]bani | thats a good analogy |
| 07:12.52 | [av]bani | sccp = winmode |
| 07:12.55 | frk2 | hahahahah |
| 07:12.55 | [av]bani | winmodem |
| 07:12.56 | [av]bani | \o/ |
| 07:13.03 | Qwell | kinda, yeah |
| 07:13.08 | denon | winmodems and soft printers are good in theory |
| 07:13.11 | frk2 | but if 90% of the world likes to use sip and iax |
| 07:13.13 | [av]bani | sccp is the winmodem of voip |
| 07:13.15 | denon | pity nobody knows how to write good drivers |
| 07:13.21 | [av]bani | nice <3 |
| 07:13.28 | Qwell | hey now |
| 07:13.33 | Qwell | I'm working on that :p |
| 07:13.37 | [av]bani | :D |
| 07:13.53 | [av]bani | well, cisco can't be totally blamed -- they didnt create sccp |
| 07:13.54 | frk2 | how many non cisco phones use SCCP? |
| 07:13.58 | [av]bani | they assimilated it from a company |
| 07:14.04 | Qwell | frk2: like 1 |
| 07:14.04 | denon | Qwell: no no, I mean winmodem and soft printer drivers |
| 07:14.12 | Qwell | denon: sure, sure |
| 07:14.29 | [av]bani | if anyone used sccp, i'm sure cisco would come down on them like a ton of bricks |
| 07:14.35 | [av]bani | because sccp = cheap phones for callmanager |
| 07:14.36 | denon | Qwell: YOUR code, on the other hand, is stellar .. the second you check stuff into SVN, I instantly roll it out to all our 911 centers |
| 07:14.44 | Qwell | denon: good |
| 07:14.54 | frk2 | hahah yeah |
| 07:14.57 | [av]bani | HOW 2 GOT SCCP? |
| 07:15.58 | Qwell | I should add realtime support to chan_skinny |
| 07:16.07 | frk2 | but i hear with ccm 5, the legacy of SCCP is broken |
| 07:16.12 | denon | nooo, realtime sucks yada yada |
| 07:16.13 | frk2 | and you can register SIP phones |
| 07:16.13 | riksta | denon: You should read about the London ambulance service software fiasco :) |
| 07:16.31 | denon | rikishi: silly brits, it's no wonder we split away from you guys :) |
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| 07:17.02 | riksta | denon: haha. was a while ago. We did a casestudy on it at uni |
| 07:17.03 | denon | however, I do want to know why they dont sell roasted chesnuts on the street corners in london anymore |
| 07:17.16 | riksta | they do in Manchester (at the right time) |
| 07:17.22 | [av]bani | conkers! |
| 07:17.26 | denon | this was like a block from the palace |
| 07:17.30 | [av]bani | silly english |
| 07:17.42 | denon | er, not the palace .. whatever its called |
| 07:17.44 | riksta | denon: block? lol |
| 07:17.49 | riksta | this is england ;) |
| 07:17.56 | denon | ok, fine - a half k |
| 07:18.01 | riksta | mile ;) |
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| 07:18.18 | [av]bani | riksta: heres a hint: bonnet goes on yer head and boot goes on yer feet! |
| 07:18.27 | riksta | :) |
| 07:18.34 | denon | yeah, that's sound advice |
| 07:18.37 | riksta | trunks you wear for swimming |
| 07:18.39 | [av]bani | torches are made of wood |
| 07:18.52 | [av]bani | a lift is something you do, not something you ride in |
| 07:18.54 | denon | yeah, you dont put batteries in a torch |
| 07:19.10 | riksta | let's not get started on this |
| 07:19.14 | [av]bani | :) |
| 07:19.18 | riksta | we invented the damn language ;) |
| 07:19.25 | [av]bani | then learn to speak it properly dammit |
| 07:19.27 | riksta | you bastardiSed it |
| 07:19.36 | riksta | ;) |
| 07:19.42 | riksta | marmite++ |
| 07:19.54 | [av]bani | i thoguth marmite was australian |
| 07:20.01 | *** join/#asterisk chris_ast (n=Administ@59.93.56.163) |
| 07:20.03 | Strom_C | actually, I should smear half of you with marmite and half of you with vegemite and start a war |
| 07:20.14 | Strom_C | [av]bani, no, vegemite is the australian bastard version of marmite |
| 07:20.17 | riksta | it's made by Heinz isn't it? |
| 07:20.38 | chris_ast | Hi All, How can we set a custom greeting for VoieMail? |
| 07:20.57 | riksta | ok maybe not |
| 07:21.08 | denon | rikishi: actually, it was mostly developed by the germanic migrants |
| 07:21.16 | riksta | denon: it's "riksta" man |
| 07:21.21 | denon | the english language, I mean |
| 07:21.31 | Strom_C | chris_ast, http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+VoiceMail |
| 07:21.31 | denon | yeah whatever, there's an R and a K in it .. |
| 07:21.38 | denon | :) |
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| 07:22.40 | denon | hm, I think it's time for bed |
| 07:22.58 | iDunno | weird. |
| 07:23.02 | chris_ast | Strom_C: I have seen that page, it does not give any details regarding the fields to configure in voicemail.conf |
| 07:23.06 | iDunno | I was just thinking "it's time for work" :) |
| 07:23.15 | iDunno | these timezone things, they're annoying ;) |
| 07:23.43 | frk2 | so |
| 07:23.56 | frk2 | any of guys put together a ridiculously large PBX with asterisk recently? |
| 07:23.57 | Strom_C | chris_ast, send something to VoicemailMan(boxnumber) and then you can screw with it from there |
| 07:24.09 | Qwell | VoicemailMan! |
| 07:24.13 | Strom_C | er |
| 07:24.15 | Strom_C | VoicemailMain |
| 07:24.16 | Qwell | Faster than a spe... |
| 07:24.21 | Strom_C | but I like VoicemailMan better |
| 07:24.23 | frk2 | LOL |
| 07:24.39 | chris_ast | from voicemail.conf we cannot do it? |
| 07:24.40 | Qwell | I expect to see a superman logo, with a V...in about 2 minutes here |
| 07:24.45 | frk2 | im about to suggest a asterisk setup dealing with 800 analog lines to somebody |
| 07:24.53 | Qwell | frk2: wtf, why? |
| 07:24.59 | Qwell | are you stupid? Seriously? |
| 07:25.04 | Qwell | No offense, but... |
| 07:25.04 | frk2 | cuz they want it man |
| 07:25.12 | Qwell | That's pretty dumb. :) |
| 07:25.34 | Qwell | That's a full DS3 AND THEN SOME, worth of analog lines |
| 07:25.36 | frk2 | as in we should be using IP phones or are you saying that PBX systems cannot have 800 lines? |
| 07:25.45 | frk2 | oh yeah |
| 07:25.52 | Qwell | You don't do 800 analog phones... |
| 07:25.54 | chris_ast | Strom_C: from voicemail.conf we cannot do it? |
| 07:25.55 | Qwell | You just don't |
| 07:25.56 | Strom_C | frk2, what the hell does having 800 analog lines do that having two DS3s with ISDN signaling does not? |
| 07:25.57 | frk2 | 5-7 xeons on the back |
| 07:26.06 | Strom_C | chris_ast, no, you must interact with it FROM THE TELEPHONE |
| 07:26.08 | frk2 | dudeeessss |
| 07:26.17 | frk2 | its not 800 analog lines from the telco |
| 07:26.21 | Qwell | haha |
| 07:26.22 | frk2 | its a building with 800 POTS phones |
| 07:26.23 | Qwell | That would rock |
| 07:26.29 | chris_ast | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:26.31 | Qwell | but yeah, still, no, don't do that |
| 07:26.42 | frk2 | you saying go with IP phones? |
| 07:26.45 | Qwell | yes |
| 07:26.49 | frk2 | exactly |
| 07:26.55 | frk2 | thats what i would say |
| 07:27.06 | *** join/#asterisk konfuzed (n=Konf@H211.C18.B96.tor.eicat.ca) |
| 07:27.12 | frk2 | but its a standard stupid very large very old organization and they think IP phones are gay |
| 07:27.33 | Qwell | can't be larger/older than where I work... :p |
| 07:27.37 | linlin | Strom_C, are you the actual Strom_C ? |
| 07:27.41 | Qwell | (the combination of both) |
| 07:27.47 | Qwell | linlin: no, he's a different Strom_C |
| 07:27.50 | frk2 | but for shits and giggles if I do employ say 40 rhino channel banks with 10 quad digium cards distributed over 5 xeons - it would technically work right? |
| 07:28.06 | konfuzed | hm |
| 07:28.06 | Qwell | frk2: double it |
| 07:28.09 | konfuzed | that sounds nice |
| 07:28.11 | konfuzed | ;^) |
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| 07:28.16 | Qwell | You need lines into the pbx also |
| 07:28.22 | frk2 | oh yeah |
| 07:28.25 | linlin | was reading some message board posts by him last night...smart smart man ;) |
| 07:28.29 | frk2 | there are even more channel banks / servers for that |
| 07:28.34 | frk2 | and more for the 300 IP phones |
| 07:28.59 | frk2 | the only part that bothers me is the 800 analogs |
| 07:29.03 | Qwell | linlin: A little crazy too, I think. shh! :p |
| 07:29.09 | Qwell | frk2: as it should |
| 07:29.15 | linlin | heh |
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| 07:29.20 | konfuzed | frk2, whats the 5 xeons oh intel |
| 07:29.26 | jac]Z[oby | Hi and good morning |
| 07:29.35 | konfuzed | i keep forgetting everything about intel |
| 07:29.43 | linlin | odd, hes not responding to my blatent brown-nosing |
| 07:29.44 | frk2 | you a amd man? |
| 07:29.54 | jac]Z[oby | anyone can hlep me with an ooh323 keepalive issue? |
| 07:29.58 | frk2 | qwell |
| 07:30.03 | Qwell | damn straight |
| 07:30.03 | frk2 | even if they went for IP phones |
| 07:30.09 | frk2 | thats like 1100 ip phones |
| 07:30.12 | Qwell | yeah |
| 07:30.25 | Qwell | but you wouldn't need 40 some odd channelbanks |
| 07:30.31 | frk2 | oh i know |
| 07:30.40 | frk2 | but i would need some serious switches |
| 07:30.52 | Qwell | If you have 800 desks, you should already have some serious switches. :) |
| 07:30.54 | konfuzed | but 40 odd chanel banks is no learn curve for the user |
| 07:31.11 | frk2 | thats true |
| 07:31.12 | konfuzed | they used same old phone and dont even tell them its voip |
| 07:31.27 | frk2 | but even wtih 800 nodes just for data you can get by without layer 3 switching |
| 07:31.43 | frk2 | konfuzed - thats exactly the organizations idea |
| 07:31.49 | frk2 | they dont wanna burden people |
| 07:32.01 | frk2 | regardless |
| 07:32.03 | frk2 | you are right |
| 07:32.16 | konfuzed | or confuse the f**k*n sh*t outa of either |
| 07:32.21 | frk2 | IP phones with (possibly) VLAN tagging is the way to go |
| 07:32.23 | Qwell | If people can't deal with a new phone, frankly, they shouldn't have a job |
| 07:32.31 | frk2 | hahah |
| 07:32.34 | frk2 | thats true man |
| 07:32.41 | Qwell | Go back to McDonalds, I say |
| 07:32.43 | frk2 | we put linux desktops at a bank |
| 07:32.50 | konfuzed | Qwell, you must work with a lot of writers and artists |
| 07:33.01 | frk2 | and the funniest part was the lowest of the lowest ranked people had no issues |
| 07:33.16 | frk2 | the secretaries, the clerks, security people didnt find kde that hard at all |
| 07:33.16 | Qwell | frk2: bank employees generally aren't complete jackasses |
| 07:33.30 | frk2 | it was the freakin MANAGERS that had a shit fit |
| 07:33.32 | Qwell | bank management however... |
| 07:33.34 | Qwell | see? |
| 07:33.43 | konfuzed | well bank computers only run the cash register app anyway ;^) |
| 07:33.45 | Qwell | I've worked at one for ~5 years...I know exactly how it is |
| 07:34.02 | frk2 | how could you man |
| 07:34.09 | frk2 | its the most boring thing in the world |
| 07:34.14 | *** join/#asterisk Teeli (i=Tili@61.144.20.233) |
| 07:34.22 | Qwell | it's not that boring |
| 07:34.34 | Qwell | you get to deal with new idiots^H^H^H^H^H^Hpeople every day |
| 07:34.35 | frk2 | its up there |
| 07:34.57 | Qwell | Here's how it works. |
| 07:35.04 | konfuzed | 1100 is a lot of lost phone numbers and passwords and broken extensions |
| 07:35.09 | Qwell | normal bank employees...are pretty smart people, most of the time |
| 07:35.16 | Qwell | bank management, and bank IT...friggen morons |
| 07:35.22 | konfuzed | frk2, I would like to pass on some advice I got the other nite |
| 07:35.32 | konfuzed | run for the hills |
| 07:36.48 | frk2 | oh |
| 07:36.53 | frk2 | bank IT is like 20 years behind |
| 07:37.09 | frk2 | we use more modern shit in our little consulting firm that most banks can dream of |
| 07:37.23 | Qwell | hey, you're preaching to the choir here... |
| 07:37.25 | frk2 | Bank IT = purchase boxes with lights |
| 07:37.35 | konfuzed | big lites |
| 07:37.38 | sergeus | Hello guys, i have a strange problem, may be you would help me? |
| 07:37.39 | frk2 | oh yeah |
| 07:37.47 | Qwell | no, little lights...with many of them |
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| 07:37.51 | frk2 | and make sure one other bank has it |
| 07:37.59 | frk2 | so if it randomly breaks, you have somebody to blame it on |
| 07:38.02 | sergeus | Sometimes my SIPP calls get disconnected with strange error: |
| 07:38.12 | sergeus | http://pastebin.ca/47664 |
| 07:38.12 | frk2 | its also important that the lights have NO meaning whatsoever |
| 07:38.33 | frk2 | and to understand the binary patterns you have to take a 4 day class in the bahamas |
| 07:38.33 | konfuzed | well fast and coded like the ticker would be good |
| 07:39.03 | sergeus | i don't know what causing this error, and i don't know what should i do to prevent it |
| 07:39.16 | sergeus | any dvices? :) |
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| 07:43.52 | PakiPenguin | afternoon |
| 07:44.52 | frk2 | whatsup |
| 07:44.56 | frk2 | meet a fellow paki :) |
| 07:45.07 | frk2 | though i aint as flambouyant |
| 07:49.04 | PakiPenguin | not much |
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| 07:49.45 | PakiPenguin | where you at frk2 ? |
| 07:53.49 | frk2 | khi |
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| 07:55.20 | jorgito | hi |
| 07:55.27 | jorgito | nave a problemi with asterisk |
| 07:55.34 | Strom_C | REALLY?! |
| 07:55.35 | Strom_C | WOW |
| 07:55.50 | Strom_C | that NEVER happens in here :) |
| 07:56.07 | asterboy | nope...never! |
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| 07:56.49 | jorgito | i was triing two registers , now i want to use only one but when i put ; before the one register in sip.conf then the peer is still active,, if i do sip show peers i see both registers is this normal? |
| 07:56.49 | iDunno | how can you ever have a problem with asterisk!? it just runs ;) |
| 07:57.03 | iDunno | sip reload? ;) |
| 07:57.08 | Strom_C | jorgito, did you do a sip reload? :) |
| 07:57.27 | asterboy | does anybody know if you can conference two tin cans and a string with a third can? |
| 07:57.41 | jorgito | Strom_C, i did also sip reload |
| 07:57.49 | jorgito | Strom_C, i tried stop now also |
| 07:57.59 | asterboy | stop now |
| 07:58.04 | asterboy | asterisk -cvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv |
| 07:58.08 | asterboy | try that |
| 07:58.13 | PakiPenguin | i see |
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| 07:58.15 | asterboy | more v's the better |
| 07:58.18 | Strom_C | holy crap, you know what I just realized? I don't have vpn access to my client's network anymore. I'm going to have to drive down there and muck with everything |
| 07:58.19 | iDunno | asterboy: of course you can! the knot is a bit tricky though ;) |
| 07:58.24 | asterboy | it's like the elevator button |
| 07:58.26 | Strom_C | BILLABLE HOURS!!!! WOOHOO!!!! |
| 07:58.27 | iDunno | or set verbose 50 |
| 07:58.54 | asterboy | I was thinking it could actually be done if the knot was tight enough and all three parties were pulling taught. |
| 07:58.55 | puzzled | morning all |
| 07:59.09 | asterboy | night here |
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| 08:01.33 | Ansonmus | Hello, we are playing with asterisk + bri. On disconnect from our side the other and will stay connected |
| 08:01.53 | Ansonmus | we see system calls q931_hangup |
| 08:01.58 | Ansonmus | but no destroy |
| 08:02.15 | znoG | anyone had this issue building spandsp -> asterisk complains it couldn't load app_rxfax.c: t30_completion_code_to_str - undefined symbol |
| 08:03.11 | frk2 | storm_c |
| 08:03.30 | Ansonmus | do any of you know this problem and what can we do? |
| 08:03.48 | linlin | its strom damnit |
| 08:03.58 | frk2 | shit sorry |
| 08:03.58 | frk2 | strom |
| 08:04.05 | Strom_C | hi |
| 08:04.07 | frk2 | forgot what i was gonna say |
| 08:04.09 | Strom_C | what can I do for you |
| 08:04.10 | frk2 | nevermind |
| 08:04.14 | frk2 | :) |
| 08:04.15 | Strom_C | charming |
| 08:04.27 | linlin | storm...pssssh...meer mortal |
| 08:04.39 | linlin | mere* |
| 08:04.45 | frk2 | linin thought it was Strom |
| 08:05.05 | Strom_C | my full name is "Strom Carlson", but Strom works :) |
| 08:05.05 | frk2 | :) |
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| 08:07.19 | linlin | i was reading some message board posts by you last night strom, kinda a strange coinciodence (sp) that i see you so soon after |
| 08:07.36 | Strom_C | coincidence |
| 08:07.40 | Strom_C | which message board? |
| 08:07.46 | linlin | binrev |
| 08:07.50 | Strom_C | :) |
| 08:07.55 | linlin | ;) |
| 08:08.14 | bsdfreak | :) |
| 08:09.53 | linlin | good stuff |
| 08:10.13 | Strom_C | alright, well at least my client's PBX is back up |
| 08:10.34 | Strom_C | but now I think I have to go down there to work out some problems I can't do via ssh :) |
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| 08:12.08 | Strom_C | so I'll be back soon |
| 08:13.02 | Strom_C | (strange life, this consulting stuff...one of the few times you get excited about driving to the ghetto at midnight) |
| 08:14.47 | riksta | charming |
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| 08:33.02 | exten123 | what the diff btw exten => 100,2,Goto,Menu|s|1" or "exten => 100,2,Goto(Menu,s,1)" |
| 08:41.12 | Delvar | nothing |
| 08:41.26 | Delvar | i find the later easyer to read |
| 08:43.23 | asterboy | Anyone get * to work on DamnSmallLinux? |
| 08:45.58 | Ansonmus | is this a problem?: == Spawn extension (from-internal, 0654265690, 1) exited non-zero on 'SIP/423-c41c' |
| 08:46.06 | Ansonmus | what means "exited non-zero" |
| 08:48.11 | powerchip | how run debug mode? |
| 08:48.26 | X-Gen | asterboy: fire up vmware and try it for yourself ;) |
| 08:48.51 | Ansonmus | it is a debug message |
| 08:49.24 | Ansonmus | but we have a problem that the B-leg stay connected while A-leg is disconnected.. So we reading the debug messages |
| 08:51.47 | asterboy | lol |
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| 08:52.13 | asterboy | I'm so hooked on the damnsmalllinux now. |
| 08:53.17 | asterboy | Linus is Buddha |
| 08:54.05 | asterboy | Then there is hurling chunks of HURD |
| 08:55.35 | Ansonmus | What is wink time? |
| 09:01.11 | asterboy | The time it takes to press the semi-colon key and the right round bracket? ;) |
| 09:01.31 | Ansonmus | ;) |
| 09:01.36 | iDunno | :( |
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| 09:12.43 | backblue | anyone have compiled zaptel in centos 4.3? |
| 09:13.46 | batman2 | wow, centos 4.3 came out already? |
| 09:15.04 | backblue | already? :o |
| 09:19.57 | puzzled | backblue: worked fine for me on 4.2 but haven't tried building it on 4.3. You can try rebuilding a srpm from www.laimbock.com/asterisk/ |
| 09:20.18 | asterboy | ~centos |
| 09:20.20 | jbot | from memory, centos is better than Fedora Core except for that silly bug, see ~centosbug for details |
| 09:20.36 | asterboy | ~centosbug |
| 09:20.38 | jbot | somebody said centosbug was a problem with the latest Centos kernel (4.2 and 4.3). To fix it, edit the file /usr/src/kernels/2.6.9-34.EL-i686/include/linux/spinlock.h and change 'rw_lock_t' on line 407 to 'rwlock_t'. This is part of the 'kernel-devel' package. |
| 09:21.15 | tainted_ | that's not a silly bug |
| 09:21.20 | tainted_ | that's fucking retarded |
| 09:21.59 | backblue | puzzled: i need to compile, we have some patch's that we need to use. |
| 09:23.27 | asterboy | damnsmalllinux is getting a donation from me for sure. |
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| 09:24.04 | asterboy | simply amazing what it can do on a P100 64Mb RAM |
| 09:24.15 | asterboy | I'm in love. |
| 09:26.51 | backblue | asterboy: tks very much |
| 09:28.53 | asterboy | seriously?! |
| 09:29.23 | Strom_M | hrm |
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| 09:29.50 | Strom_M | once again, AMP has turned a one-minute fix into a multi-hour ordeal |
| 09:30.23 | asterboy | ~backblue |
| 09:31.21 | asterboy | I hope that's true cause I'd like to meet the gent who made that project. |
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| 09:32.33 | Ansonmus | What means non-zero? is that a problem: == Spawn extension (from-internal, 0654265690, 1) exited non-zero on 'SIP/423-c41c' |
| 09:32.52 | Strom_M | Ansonmus, its never been a problem for me :) |
| 09:33.25 | Ansonmus | our problem is the other end (b-leg) will not be disconnected when we hang up |
| 09:33.39 | TallAndy | Now and again when using the 'Dial' command I get a SIP Internal Server Error 500, any ideas what could cause this. It only happens now and again, and usually issueing another Dial command will work fine |
| 09:34.32 | asterboy | I was getting those today. |
| 09:34.37 | TallAndy | Really |
| 09:34.45 | asterboy | trying to remember |
| 09:34.48 | TallAndy | They are intermitent |
| 09:34.54 | TallAndy | Just happens randomly |
| 09:35.04 | asterboy | damnsmalllinux has me peaked. |
| 09:35.25 | asterboy | ah yes. |
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| 09:35.54 | asterboy | it was from a sip transfer on ZAP channels when I woudl try to bridge. |
| 09:35.57 | dlynes | TallAndy, It's generally a problem on your terminator's end |
| 09:36.02 | TallAndy | right |
| 09:36.22 | TallAndy | Worth trying to check with them I guess, is this quite common with SIP? |
| 09:36.49 | dlynes | TallAndy, it means that their server encountered something that it wasn't expecting, and didn't know how to handle it |
| 09:37.11 | dlynes | TallAndy, No..it's not common...just some terminators aren't terribly reliable |
| 09:37.18 | TallAndy | Right |
| 09:37.28 | asterboy | Don't know if it went away, because I fixed the problem of not hanging up with a busydetect=es in zapata.conf |
| 09:37.38 | dlynes | TallAndy, Let your upstream know about it so they can give you different carrier for that npa |
| 09:37.47 | TallAndy | dlynes: thanks will do! |
| 09:37.48 | asterboy | s/=es/yes/g |
| 09:38.13 | chris_ast | Can I change temp files in voicemail dir stored by asterisk with my own wav files for playing greetings etc? |
| 09:38.36 | asterboy | time to get some sleep...I'm gettin sloppy on the keyboard. |
| 09:38.41 | TallAndy | :) |
| 09:38.49 | chris_ast | jbot,asterboy,TallAndy: please help |
| 09:39.19 | jac]Z[oby | ooh323 keepalive anyone ? |
| 09:39.41 | asterboy | I'd say yes, but I've not done it yet. |
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| 09:41.40 | TallAndy | dlynes: The dial command doesn't change so it must be the terminator like you say, so its not as if i'm sending something they shouldn't expect. |
| 09:42.53 | dlynes | TallAndy, yeah...just some of them aren't running reliable hardware |
| 09:42.59 | asterboy | xcruiser....outrageous! |
| 09:43.25 | dlynes | TallAndy, You'll experience that sometimes when you're trying to send g729 out on a g723 route, too |
| 09:43.38 | dlynes | TallAndy, make sure your upstream has you set up for all g729 routes |
| 09:43.58 | dlynes | TallAndy, asterisk doesn't do auto-negotiation on codecs for pass-through correctly |
| 09:44.18 | TallAndy | dlynes: The network is Gamma Telecom (UK) |
| 09:44.33 | TallAndy | Right thanks for the advice dlynes |
| 09:44.34 | dlynes | TallAndy, never heard of them....but it doesn't mean anything...i'm in Canada, not the UK |
| 09:44.38 | TallAndy | hehe |
| 09:46.28 | Ansonmus | anyone have BRI in the Netherlands working? |
| 09:46.43 | Ansonmus | anyone <=> have |
| 09:47.26 | dlynes | anyways...back to coding...catch ya later, TallAndy |
| 09:47.27 | bsdfreak | heh |
| 09:47.42 | TallAndy | dlynes: cheers, cya |
| 09:48.08 | dlynes | actually...anyone know what file 'CHANUNAVAIL' is actually defined in? |
| 09:48.25 | dlynes | I've grepped through the entire asterisk and zaptel source trees, and it's defined nowhere |
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| 09:49.09 | batman2 | Can anybody please show me how to install STUN server onto my AAH box. |
| 09:53.35 | dlynes | wtf???? |
| 09:53.48 | dlynes | asterisk code uses the goto command? |
| 09:55.31 | Juggie | considering asterisk dialplan is a statemachine |
| 09:55.31 | Juggie | i think it makes sense? |
| 09:57.40 | dlynes | The only other place i've ever seen the goto command used was in Chuck Forsberg's zmodem code |
| 09:57.49 | dlynes | And that code was absolutely horrifying |
| 09:58.16 | dlynes | Any decent comp sci teacher discourages people from using it |
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| 10:00.55 | Juggie | sigh |
| 10:01.03 | Juggie | clearly you have no idea what you are talking about |
| 10:01.17 | Juggie | dialplan is not programming, technically |
| 10:01.18 | dlynes | I've been coding for 20 years...I think I do |
| 10:01.21 | Juggie | its a scripted state machine |
| 10:01.24 | dlynes | I'm talking about the C code |
| 10:01.26 | Strom_M | dlynes, by "code" do you mean "source code" or "dial plan"? |
| 10:01.27 | dlynes | Not the dialplan |
| 10:01.43 | Juggie | theres a few places where goto is used that i've seen, not sure why. |
| 10:01.43 | dlynes | Strom_C, source code, obviously |
| 10:01.51 | Juggie | if you feel likek changing it, submit a patch. |
| 10:01.57 | Juggie | *like |
| 10:02.06 | Juggie | i thought yo ment the Goto app in the dialplan |
| 10:02.07 | Strom_M | dlynes, or send a kvetchy email to the developers :) |
| 10:02.23 | dlynes | Juggie, no...I use those all the time |
| 10:02.36 | dlynes | Juggie, There's no dialplan command in zmodem code |
| 10:03.00 | Strom_M | alright, time to go home |
| 10:03.14 | Juggie | anyways yes, i've seen it used in the c code |
| 10:03.23 | Juggie | i never really read the code to find out why |
| 10:04.59 | dlynes | if the code was actually broken up properly into functions instead of having 500 lines of code in one function, the goto wouldn't be necessary |
| 10:05.45 | dlynes | It's pretty scary that it even still works |
| 10:06.21 | Juggie | theres alot of ugly code but thats life |
| 10:06.26 | Juggie | check out app_voicemail.c |
| 10:06.32 | Juggie | if your looking for a good laugh |
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| 10:07.09 | dlynes | It looks a hell of a lot better than app_dial.c |
| 10:07.30 | dlynes | There's one function in app_dial.c that's 500 or 600 lines of code |
| 10:08.26 | dlynes | now i like the 'goto yuck' in voicemail though :) |
| 10:08.30 | dlynes | that's pretty funny |
| 10:09.00 | dlynes | omg....are they actually storing voicemail in the sql server? |
| 10:09.11 | Juggie | you can |
| 10:09.13 | Juggie | its not required |
| 10:09.24 | dlynes | that's funny as hell |
| 10:09.30 | Juggie | it works well |
| 10:09.34 | Juggie | good for email access as well |
| 10:09.39 | Juggie | as ugly as the code is |
| 10:10.01 | dlynes | doesn't it adversely affect the speed of the pbx if you've got a lot of users? |
| 10:10.45 | Juggie | if you had alot of users idealy you'd run VM on a seperate box |
| 10:11.03 | Juggie | i havnt benchmarked it so i cant say for sure |
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| 10:37.28 | backblue | dlynes: how do you do distributed mailbox without sql server storing? :D |
| 10:47.47 | Strom_C | dead hookers |
| 10:49.18 | nettie | hey guys anyone know why moh audio is jumpy please? |
| 10:49.40 | Strom_C | nettie, you really should stop feeding it all that sugar |
| 10:49.46 | nettie | eheheh |
| 10:50.23 | hwt | Juggie: do you know how i can run the voicemail on a separate box? |
| 10:50.46 | hwt | Juggie: Dial() into [incoming] context? |
| 10:50.48 | backblue | hwt: use sql to store it. |
| 10:51.06 | hwt | backblue: yeah, that's the plan. but i also want to run Voicemailmain() on a separate box. |
| 10:51.15 | hwt | backblue: you mean like in blobs, right= |
| 10:51.17 | hwt | blehbo: ? |
| 10:51.20 | backblue | yes |
| 10:51.20 | hwt | uhm. |
| 10:51.36 | hwt | backblue: k. |
| 10:51.42 | backblue | you can do that, just dial to other box |
| 10:51.50 | hwt | backblue: are there any other ways? |
| 10:52.00 | hwt | backblue: that kinda sounds dirty. |
| 10:52.51 | backblue | i dont know, but maybe tomorow i can tell you, i'm doing it too. |
| 10:53.42 | hwt | backblue: cool. |
| 10:55.49 | Aurs | hwt: I'm dialing to another box to do this |
| 10:56.13 | Aurs | asterisk1 dials asterisk2 over iax2 |
| 10:57.04 | hwt | Aurs: we will do it SIP-only, but it nevertheless should work nicely then. |
| 10:57.35 | Aurs | hwt: yes |
| 10:59.40 | backblue | you have asterisk as frontends? or ser? |
| 11:00.34 | hwt | backblue: we have SER for customers. |
| 11:00.48 | Aurs | backblue: me? asterisk for now. but looking into openser.. |
| 11:01.05 | hwt | backblue: but use an asterisk box as gateway to PSTN (via SIP trunk) and voicemail. |
| 11:01.16 | hwt | Aurs: openser == SER? |
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| 11:06.44 | Aurs | hwt: openser.org |
| 11:07.28 | Aurs | hwt: http://openser.org/about.php |
| 11:08.47 | hwt | Aurs: why do you want open- instead of plain SER? |
| 11:12.32 | chris_ast | Hi Aurs,hwt,blackblue: I need help on asterisk voicemail and wav files it plays, please help |
| 11:12.51 | Strom_C | chris_ast, just ask the damned question |
| 11:13.14 | Aurs | hehe |
| 11:14.06 | chris_ast | I am manually changinf voicemail greeting, * accepts only mono low frequency files. |
| 11:14.20 | Strom_C | chris_ast, 8khz 16-bit PCM |
| 11:14.27 | chris_ast | Is there any internal tool for asterisk to change this behaviour |
| 11:14.59 | Strom_C | chris_ast, why do you want to use anything with higher bandwidth? phones are only mono 8khz 16-bit companded audio at best anyway |
| 11:15.06 | chris_ast | I am taking files from user and the user never knows his file type |
| 11:15.27 | chris_ast | freq etc |
| 11:15.37 | Strom_C | chris_ast, why arent you changing the voicemail greetings from the voicemail application itself? |
| 11:16.20 | chris_ast | So that user can set his own message without recording from his phone |
| 11:16.37 | Strom_C | but why? |
| 11:16.40 | chris_ast | he can upload a file and I will place it in proper place |
| 11:16.52 | Strom_C | just tell them to use the phone and then you dont have to do a thing |
| 11:17.03 | Strom_C | i mean, hell, this is a PHONE application we're talking about here |
| 11:17.12 | nettie | I'm a bit confused regarding phones, extensions and voicemail naming/numbering. Afaik seems I should definitely use a number to name them and then use vars in extensions.conf is that a good idea? At the moment I'm using name for voicemail accounts, name for phones (which are diff from the voicemail account names), numbers as extensions.. but it's pretty confusing.. anyone can suggest me a good numbering strategy pleasE? |
| 11:17.31 | Strom_C | nettie, I keep everything as numbers |
| 11:17.57 | chris_ast | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:18.07 | Strom_C | ? |
| 11:18.22 | Strom_C | chris_ast, your boss is demanding that users be able to just send you audio files? |
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| 11:19.14 | chris_ast | Strom_C, I did not get u? |
| 11:19.46 | Strom_C | chris_ast, please speak in something resembling English. Sentence fragments aren't generally understandable :) |
| 11:20.45 | nettie | Strom_C but extensions in extensions.conf and phones and vmail accts have the same number? |
| 11:20.56 | Strom_C | nettie: I keep it simple, as follows: |
| 11:21.07 | chris_ast | sorry, I really do not know the advantage having this featuire but he wants this feature to be done |
| 11:21.21 | mut | . |
| 11:21.31 | Strom_C | chris_ast, well ok, then just use sox or something to downsample the audio files to mono, 8khz, 16-bit wav |
| 11:21.37 | chris_ast | anyway I will try to explain him, thanks for your time and help |
| 11:21.59 | Strom_C | nettie, say I have a SIP phone called 5000 |
| 11:22.11 | Strom_C | the entry in sip.conf is called "5000" |
| 11:22.34 | Strom_C | in extensions.conf, I have something like "exten => 5000,1,Dial(SIP/5000)" |
| 11:22.47 | Strom_C | (you could easily make that a macro) |
| 11:23.02 | Strom_C | the associated voicemail box is called 5000 |
| 11:23.03 | nettie | yup im using macros |
| 11:23.05 | nettie | ok |
| 11:23.07 | nettie | clear |
| 11:23.08 | nettie | thanx |
| 11:23.11 | nettie | I'll do the same |
| 11:23.13 | Strom_C | it keeps things really clear |
| 11:25.04 | nettie | you might have some problems if user 5000 uses phones 5023 5024 and 50026 |
| 11:25.07 | nettie | 5026 |
| 11:25.32 | nettie | you have to remember that those phones are used by user 5000 |
| 11:25.56 | Strom_C | nettie, or just keep a record book |
| 11:26.15 | Strom_C | or |
| 11:26.31 | Strom_C | assign extensions such that if a user wants to add phones, they can be in contiguous blocks |
| 11:26.53 | nettie | or the idea could be use the same numbe rin extensions.conf and in voicemail.conf and name the phones differently |
| 11:27.11 | Strom_C | so you have a user on 5000, 5010, 5020, and so on, and then when 5010 wants to add three more extensions, he gets 5011, 5012, and 5013 |
| 11:28.02 | Strom_C | and have your outbound dial always re-set the caller ID to XXX0 |
| 11:28.18 | Strom_C | and have inbound calls to XXX0 hunt down the line |
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| 11:31.29 | Strom_C | nettie, if you wanted to use more arbitrary numbering schemes, you could have everything in a database |
| 11:32.35 | Strom_C | say extension 5000 hunts through 5000, 2368, 1952, and 3663 -- you could have those extensions associated with 5000 in the asterisk database, then have your macro pull the extensions out of the database and try those :) |
| 11:33.20 | Strom_C | but realistically, unless you're doing a gigantic install, a well-thought-out numbering plan will be fairly easy to implement |
| 11:33.27 | nettie | yeah |
| 11:33.29 | nettie | exaclty |
| 11:33.31 | nettie | 6 phones |
| 11:33.32 | nettie | eheheh |
| 11:34.00 | nettie | no well |
| 11:34.01 | nettie | about 10 |
| 11:34.03 | nettie | actuaklly |
| 11:34.04 | nettie | :) |
| 11:34.18 | Strom_C | brb, gonna grab the laptop |
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| 11:36.51 | Strom_M | back |
| 11:40.12 | Strom_M | laptop + wifi + irc + bed == I love the future |
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| 11:47.09 | Strom_M | so yeah |
| 11:47.11 | Strom_M | dogballs |
| 11:48.46 | Winkie | eww gross |
| 11:48.54 | backblue | asterisk really need to improve chan_sip and it's performance! |
| 11:49.15 | Winkie | what's so wrong? |
| 11:49.30 | Strom_M | backblue, download the source and fix it yourself :) |
| 11:51.17 | backblue | Strom_M: i dont have time for that, and until i have "another way" to do it, i will not do it. |
| 11:51.35 | Strom_M | backblue, I was half-joking, you know |
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| 11:51.37 | Strom_M | hence the smiley |
| 11:51.38 | backblue | Winkie: not doing 400 calls in the same server, it's bad. |
| 11:51.52 | backblue | Strom_M: yes i know |
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| 11:56.46 | Strom_M | Jon335, your tests are irritating everyone else :) |
| 11:57.26 | Jon335 | sorry, done now |
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| 12:00.05 | zoa | seems to work |
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| 12:15.03 | encode | thats better l( |
| 12:17.15 | znoG | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:17.22 | znoG | anyone had that with spandsp? |
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| 12:21.30 | RoyK | znoG: usually some old libs lying around... remove all spandsp libs and reinstall |
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| 12:22.14 | JB- | hello all |
| 12:22.36 | RoyK | zoa: ping |
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| 12:23.40 | JB- | i'm having a small problem, using zaphfc for isdn, when i call out by sip to pstn, and hang up the sip phone, the line does not disconnect...., in the dialplan i have _0XXXXXXXXXX,1,Dial(ZAP/1/${EXTEN}) then _0XXXXXXXXXX,2,Hangup |
| 12:23.52 | znoG | RoyK: spot on, thanks :) |
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| 12:27.45 | toot | anyone recommend a good cheap supplier of asterisk friendly servers for a small office pbx plz? :) |
| 12:28.13 | RoyK | znoG: :) |
| 12:28.27 | RoyK | toot: anything will do |
| 12:29.37 | toot | it just i see most recommendations to stay away from dell - although i ain't had any problems with my own box+asterisk+tdm400 cards |
| 12:31.25 | batman2 | which file is inbound config lies in? |
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| 12:38.40 | RoyK | batman2: see the docs... it varies what you do |
| 12:38.41 | RoyK | ~docs |
| 12:38.42 | jbot | it has been said that docs is probably Documentation can be found at http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk or http://www.asteriskdocs.org or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/asterisk or http://www.asteriskguru.com, or http://www.astmasters.net/howtos.html |
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| 12:39.33 | trixter | i heard that longshoreman read the docs |
| 12:40.37 | Winkie | toot: where are you located? |
| 12:41.26 | toot | i have a bit of a silly question - http://www.digium.com/en/products/hardware/tdm2400p.php - where do the lines plug in (just leave the case open? or a pci slot above? :)) |
| 12:41.30 | toot | n. ireland :) |
| 12:41.42 | wasim | toot: it has a dongle |
| 12:41.51 | wasim | toot: afaik |
| 12:42.30 | RoyK | toot: it's a huge plug in the back, old centronix-style iirc |
| 12:42.41 | trixter | amphenol connector most likely |
| 12:43.34 | trixter | there are many patch panels that take amphenol directly so wiring is easy |
| 12:43.50 | trixter | and to my suprise the cost hasnt changed in 15 years |
| 12:43.59 | toot | i'm a bit new to this so need to find out what that is :) |
| 12:44.09 | trixter | google amphenol |
| 12:44.14 | toot | doing so :P |
| 12:44.27 | trixter | its a 50 pin connector so it can do 25 lines but that card is only wired for 24 |
| 12:44.29 | RoyK | toot: only i heard that card sucks, so i'd check if a channel bank may be better |
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| 12:44.35 | trixter | which is common in telco settings |
| 12:44.51 | trixter | odds are channel bank is cheaper |
| 12:45.01 | RoyK | and better.... |
| 12:45.02 | trixter | look at ebay for channel banks |
| 12:45.26 | trixter | just get a t1 card and a bank and you have effectively the same thing |
| 12:45.41 | wasim | if you need fxs, the best bet is atcom 4 port ata for $100 each |
| 12:45.57 | trixter | what if you need 24 fxs? |
| 12:46.04 | wasim | 6 of em :) |
| 12:46.26 | trixter | 6 cards are likely to cause problems in the same box especially if they use zapata |
| 12:46.40 | wasim | no, silly, ata, like little black boxes |
| 12:46.49 | wasim | with their own wallwarts and stuff |
| 12:48.15 | trixter | ahh |
| 12:48.22 | trixter | higher management cost |
| 12:48.34 | wasim | nah, its pretty simple |
| 12:48.46 | wasim | disposable hardware |
| 12:48.47 | trixter | for small networks |
| 12:49.00 | wasim | large networks shouldn't be doing fxs anyway |
| 12:49.02 | wasim | not in 2006 |
| 12:49.09 | trixter | larger ones means higher management cost |
| 12:49.23 | trixter | depends on many factors |
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| 12:50.55 | wasim | such as brain dead higher management |
| 12:51.25 | trixter | some of my customers will lose a ton of money if their phones are out for 2 days |
| 12:51.29 | wasim | "we're going to continue with our circa 1975 telephone technology" |
| 12:51.38 | trixter | recabling to not be analog can take longer than that |
| 12:52.22 | trixter | and its not always a good thing to have the same physical network do voice and data, depending on multiple factors |
| 12:52.37 | trixter | so it boils down to cost, not just equipment cost but management cost, down time costs, etc |
| 12:52.49 | trixter | a bunch of hidden costs that often are overlooked |
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| 12:53.23 | wasim | thats where an experienced implementor comes in ... |
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| 12:53.52 | trixter | yup it takes experience to know that there are other factors and that one solution isnt right for everyone |
| 12:54.14 | wasim | ofcourse ... otherwise we'd all be using ferraris for dump trucks |
| 12:54.15 | trixter | and that all the different factors must be looked at before a decision can be made |
| 12:54.41 | trixter | so saying that large corporations shouldnt be doing fxs in 2006 is making the mistake of an inexperienced person |
| 12:54.44 | trixter | I see |
| 12:55.19 | wasim | large corporations would make a bigger mistake deploying fxs on zapata than on an ata |
| 12:55.21 | trixter | all I have been saying is that there are exceptions and you cant make a blanket rule |
| 12:55.34 | trixter | I commented on the zap interface above already |
| 12:55.55 | trixter | however a bunch of 4 port fxs modules would have a higher management cost than other solutions |
| 12:56.07 | wasim | ofcourse |
| 12:56.14 | trixter | note that was when I was talking about a channel bank and t1 card as opposed to specifically the tdm2400 card |
| 12:56.31 | trixter | so I wasnt suggesting zapata which you seem to be implying now |
| 12:56.50 | wasim | so we're basically arguing a similar side of the coin ... deja vu |
| 12:57.34 | trixter | well it was my understanding that when you said I was wrong about there being multiple factors for deciding what technology to employ and that there were no such factors to consider I didnt see it as a siumilar argument |
| 12:57.47 | trixter | I instead saw it as quote the opposite |
| 12:58.07 | wasim | not really |
| 12:58.27 | trixter | how can I both be wrong and right? unless you are saying that by agreeing with me you too are wrong |
| 12:58.32 | trixter | which I didnt quite get out of what was said |
| 12:58.45 | wasim | tsk tsk ... |
| 12:59.17 | trixter | it boiled down to your position was that of the inexperienced person then you changed and started quoting me |
| 12:59.20 | trixter | which I find funny |
| 12:59.22 | trixter | but mehy |
| 12:59.30 | wasim | eh? |
| 12:59.31 | trixter | you have proven your own point |
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| 13:11.13 | in-side | Hi |
| 13:11.30 | in-side | why in a refer request accountcode is not being filled ? |
| 13:11.51 | in-side | it works ok in a invite |
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| 13:16.27 | in-side | does the accountcode in refer have been fixed already? |
| 13:16.44 | ToTo | does * include some feautures for fax, or the only way is to use spandsp? |
| 13:17.35 | ToTo | because i have some trouble to patch * source with app_tx & app_rx.. |
| 13:17.47 | wasim | ToTo: it does have fax detection on zapata somewhat |
| 13:17.52 | wasim | ToTo: fax,1,() |
| 13:18.26 | ToTo | wasim, so only with zapata? |
| 13:18.30 | in-side | damn... the bug was detected at 1.2.0 |
| 13:18.33 | in-side | and still open ? |
| 13:18.38 | in-side | dear Jesus! |
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| 13:22.34 | teapot | hello |
| 13:24.32 | teapot | is anyone awake ? |
| 13:24.40 | Delvar | nope |
| 13:24.45 | teapot | :) |
| 13:24.51 | wasim | we're all watching the highlights during the tea interval |
| 13:25.18 | wasim | what was gibbs thinking ? |
| 13:25.50 | teapot | cricket? |
| 13:26.00 | wasim | is there anything else? |
| 13:26.54 | teapot | I'm stuck |
| 13:27.08 | wasim | want us to tip you over ... |
| 13:27.18 | teapot | for sure :) |
| 13:27.33 | teapot | I upgraded a * install yesterday |
| 13:27.55 | teapot | to 1.2.4 - a tag. Now I get people complaining about distortion |
| 13:28.06 | teapot | on zap channels. but only sometimes |
| 13:28.21 | teapot | and when it happens, DTMF detection stops working.. |
| 13:28.24 | *** part/#asterisk Jon335 (i=Jon335@ottawa-hs-209-217-84-118.d-ip.magma.ca) |
| 13:28.50 | teapot | In the console I just see off-hook, then on-hook |
| 13:30.11 | in-side | welcome to hell |
| 13:30.16 | in-side | I have a stupid bug |
| 13:30.17 | teapot | indeed |
| 13:30.22 | in-side | with refer |
| 13:30.30 | in-side | accountcode is not filled |
| 13:30.32 | in-side | with no reason |
| 13:30.53 | in-side | from 1.2 version till now and didn't get fixed yet |
| 13:31.40 | teapot | oh wait |
| 13:31.49 | teapot | where is the mailing list archived? |
| 13:32.01 | teapot | maybe I was googling in the wrong place |
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| 13:37.09 | in-side | anybody know if there is already a fix for accont code in a refer request? |
| 13:39.19 | teapot | Where is DTMF detection done on a Zaptel channel? |
| 13:39.34 | teapot | Is it done by the card, or is it done by the CPU? |
| 13:39.45 | teapot | (ie the asterisk code?) |
| 13:40.23 | zoa | asterisk code for most cards i think |
| 13:40.44 | teapot | k |
| 13:41.05 | teapot | I don't know what chips the digium card uses |
| 13:41.17 | nubbrage | TigerJet |
| 13:41.19 | zoa | xilinx on the expensive cards |
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| 13:41.22 | teapot | The HFC card has DTMF detection on-board |
| 13:41.24 | zoa | tigerjet on the cheap cards |
| 13:41.28 | nubbrage | zoa: !!! |
| 13:41.33 | teapot | k |
| 13:41.36 | zoa | im not here |
| 13:41.42 | nubbrage | zoa: :) |
| 13:42.03 | in-side | seems tat refer bug is just forgoten |
| 13:42.05 | in-side | :S |
| 13:42.13 | in-side | nobody seems to care of it :S |
| 13:42.24 | zoa | please leave your message after the beep |
| 13:42.30 | zoa | *PONG* |
| 13:42.32 | teapot | that's why you're going to fix it :) |
| 13:42.34 | zoa | *BOOP* |
| 13:42.47 | zoa | *TR TjuNH TjnUNG* |
| 13:43.00 | zoa | *insert v29 negotiation here* |
| 13:43.18 | in-side | yes.. shure i had.. |
| 13:43.22 | zoa | [this space is available for advertisements, please contact zoa for a pricing] |
| 13:43.29 | in-side | I doing it.. anyway.... as I'm very ugly |
| 13:43.35 | in-side | I will fork it rotfl |
| 13:43.48 | teapot | lol |
| 13:43.57 | in-side | they remember to launch new versions as bunnies |
| 13:44.25 | in-side | and a bug from 1.2.0 till now and nobody simples care on it :S |
| 13:44.50 | teapot | *sigh* |
| 13:47.22 | teapot | ok |
| 13:47.43 | teapot | what are common causes of intermittent distortion? |
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| 13:49.01 | nextime | can an "exec" call from agi/fastagi execute an asterisk function? ( like dundilookup or enumlookup or rand for example )? |
| 13:49.13 | in-side | shure |
| 13:49.23 | nextime | not only applications? |
| 13:49.24 | linstar | is there any hardware PBX which asterisk support ? |
| 13:49.24 | in-side | teapot: cpu usage? |
| 13:49.43 | teapot | in-side: indeed, but the machine has a load-average of 0 |
| 13:50.23 | in-side | teapot: you said common.. |
| 13:50.33 | teapot | :) |
| 13:50.35 | in-side | others are network traffic |
| 13:50.46 | in-side | if we are talking about sip users for example |
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| 13:51.08 | in-side | or bad codecs implementation etc etc |
| 13:51.11 | teapot | in-side: I should have said zaptel |
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| 13:51.27 | in-side | never worked with zap channels |
| 13:51.33 | teapot | in-side: listening to dialtone |
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| 13:51.50 | linstar | in-side : is there any hardware PBX which asterisk support ? |
| 13:52.21 | in-side | I have no ideia sorry I just use asterisk as voicemail sorry |
| 13:52.23 | coppice | what do you mean by support? |
| 13:52.32 | in-side | does anybody knows |
| 13:52.35 | teapot | linstar: you mean "not a PC" ? |
| 13:52.51 | in-side | how should i refer to ${CDR(accountcode)} in agi ? |
| 13:53.06 | in-side | how should I get the var from get_variable ? |
| 13:53.21 | linstar | teapot : I mean a hardware PBX like ordinary telephone PBX from which we can make extensions for the asterisk server ? |
| 13:53.29 | viperdude | hi guys anyone good with codecs over iax2 channels |
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| 13:53.50 | teapot | linstar: I doubt it |
| 13:54.32 | teapot | linstar: I think you're saying "has * been ported to a PBX platform" |
| 13:55.36 | linstar | teapot : the need is to setup 10 extensions from the * server in my office and dont want to buy 10 sipuras for it |
| 13:56.18 | linstar | teapot : Instead of it I wish to buy one h/w PBX from which I can take extensions to the phone |
| 13:57.06 | linstar | teapot : but the extensions are from * server |
| 13:57.35 | linstar | teapot : like a switch from which we can connect serveral PC's |
| 13:57.35 | teapot | linstar: something like a channel-bank? |
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| 13:57.49 | [TK]D-Fender | linstar : Why would you want some other PBX in front of *? Typically you'll reduce your phones to analog capacity at best and only INCREASE your costs while losing functionality... |
| 13:57.56 | coppice | if you had a hardware PBX, surely you wouldn't need * |
| 13:58.34 | epablo | Hi guys.. |
| 13:59.33 | epablo | I'm terminating some calls on a quad T1 (using only one T1) for now.. but my ringback sounds like a car skidding |
| 13:59.49 | epablo | http://pastebin.ca/47691 This is what I see when a call comes in.. Any ideas? |
| 14:01.04 | linstar | teapot : I dont understand what channel-bank is? |
| 14:01.08 | SplasPood | linstar: why not just use IP phones and ethernet? |
| 14:01.21 | SplasPood | and a normal ethernet switch |
| 14:01.31 | teapot | linstar: It converts E1/T1 to telephone extensions |
| 14:02.12 | batman2 | what's the command line to resart asterisk in ssh? |
| 14:02.13 | teapot | linstar: you just put a T1 card into your * box and connect it up. |
| 14:02.20 | teapot | batman2: restart gracefully ? |
| 14:02.27 | batman2 | it wouldnt me |
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| 14:03.07 | batman2 | -bash: restart: command not found |
| 14:03.21 | teapot | batman2: asterisk -r |
| 14:03.46 | batman2 | oh ok |
| 14:03.50 | batman2 | how do i check if it's back up? |
| 14:04.00 | epablo | asterisk -rx restart gracefully |
| 14:04.09 | teapot | batman2: no, the -r reconnects you to the console |
| 14:04.19 | teapot | batman2: once there, you issue the restart command |
| 14:04.32 | teapot | batman2: you'll see the normal startup messages fly past... |
| 14:04.42 | Delvar | quick question, i have jsut got a couple te406's how do i enable the hardware echo can? |
| 14:04.45 | linstar | teapot : I will come back soon thanks for the reply |
| 14:05.08 | batman2 | it just say disconnected from asterisk server |
| 14:05.11 | linstar | teapot : one more doubt? |
| 14:05.14 | batman2 | will it let me know it comes back on? |
| 14:05.37 | linstar | teapot : Is there is any changes needed in asterisk configuration for fax ? |
| 14:06.15 | teapot | linstar: nafc |
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| 14:06.41 | teapot | linstar: ps ax | grep asterisk |
| 14:07.20 | x86 | anyone know of anyone offering free toll-free termination besides TRXTel.com ? |
| 14:07.46 | linstar | teapot : ok done |
| 14:09.12 | teapot | oops |
| 14:09.24 | teapot | batman2: ps ax | grep asterisk |
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| 14:09.49 | trelane_ | x86, you're so behind the times, when are you going to add -64 to your nick? |
| 14:10.03 | x86 | nevar! |
| 14:10.04 | x86 | :P |
| 14:10.40 | coppice | should it be -64 or _64? |
| 14:11.09 | trelane_ | coppice, not sure, have x86 tell you when he's done recompiling |
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| 14:11.32 | epablo | Anyone know what a condition 15 in asterisk is? |
| 14:11.43 | coppice | is recompile anything like reincarnation? |
| 14:11.49 | trelane_ | coppice, right |
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| 14:20.22 | b66mer | Looking to pickup a T1 interface for my asterisk... anybody have comments regarding the Digium and the Sangoma cards? |
| 14:21.02 | Katty | mew. |
| 14:21.14 | b66mer | mew? |
| 14:21.15 | epablo | I have a couple Digium. They work fine! |
| 14:21.24 | tzanger | b66mer: the single port cards of both work fine and really have no differences between them |
| 14:21.36 | b66mer | are there any better brands? |
| 14:21.47 | tzanger | the sangoma *I THINK* may have a hardware echo cancel option on a single port but that's about it... and you'll pay extra for that, of course. |
| 14:21.52 | tzanger | I don't believe Digium has a single-port echo can option |
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| 14:22.57 | b66mer | I've been considering the A101 and the TE110P |
| 14:23.19 | tzanger | b66mer: they're about even. I like Sangoma's stuff, I like Digium's stuff. |
| 14:23.22 | tzanger | I've used both |
| 14:23.31 | b66mer | other brands to consider? |
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| 14:24.40 | tzanger | the multiport versions of their offerings do start to differ. Digium's quadspan can only clock from one span, whereas the sangomas can clock each span individually. Normally this isn't an issue but it's a little thing that may make your decision. Digium's VPM isn't as "heavy" as Sangoma's, but I have NOT tried Sangoma's to see if the difference is really all that apparent. |
| 14:25.18 | tzanger | my instinct says that it would be, but without actually benchmarking it and quantitatively and qualitatively measuring it, it's just speculation and opinion, and I want to make sure that that's clear |
| 14:25.49 | tzanger | Their single and quadspan without EC boards are on-par for price too, I think. |
| 14:26.48 | tzanger | I like Sangoma because they are in my backyard (an hour's drive from their HQ) and David Mandelstam's been unbelievably helpful. On the same note, Buying Digium supports Asterisk development, and I have had nothing but great customer service from them, too. |
| 14:27.05 | tzanger | There isn't any clear winner here, from a customer standpoint. |
| 14:27.27 | teapot | gtg, l8rz |
| 14:27.30 | _Paulo_ | Im using a couple TE110P. So far they work OK. |
| 14:27.38 | *** part/#asterisk teapot (n=tandrews@mail.grok.org.za) |
| 14:28.09 | tzanger | I use TE110Ps, TE405s and TE406s. I have a couple Sanogma A101us and A102us |
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| 14:30.55 | [TK]D-Fender | I use a Sangoma A104d here at work. |
| 14:32.17 | mut | any digium cards i hook to pstn i get echo the software won't get rid of |
| 14:32.22 | mut | internal stuff works fine tho |
| 14:32.31 | tzanger | mut: are you like a bazillion miles from town? |
| 14:32.31 | mut | i'm trying to rma my 405's and get a 104d |
| 14:32.46 | mut | they come in over a ds3.. |
| 14:32.56 | tzanger | mut: how will a non-ec card help you? |
| 14:33.31 | mut | 104d has ec |
| 14:33.53 | tzanger | ahh |
| 14:34.01 | tzanger | did you try slapping on a VPM on the 405? |
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| 14:34.31 | [TK]D-Fender | mut : I went through 2 TE405P's before my switch. |
| 14:34.49 | x86 | how do i do voice recognition like 800-555-TELL does? |
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| 14:35.11 | x86 | where you can say the option you want instead of having to DTMF it |
| 14:35.16 | [TK]D-Fender | x86 : Sphinx. Or some other commercial one (which are undoubtably better) |
| 14:35.53 | FlyboySR22 | GOod Morning Everyopne |
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| 14:36.25 | epablo | i'm looking for a condition oh323 is not handling.. but I don't know where these conditions are defined.. |
| 14:36.46 | Katty | and i'm looking for conditioner. |
| 14:36.58 | epablo | LOL |
| 14:37.08 | Katty | loler. |
| 14:37.13 | mut | you can get them for the 405? |
| 14:37.13 | coppice | air conditioner? |
| 14:37.37 | Katty | :< |
| 14:37.46 | Katty | i only like girly snogs. |
| 14:37.50 | epablo | chan_oh323.c:1760 oh323_indicate: Don't know how to indicate condition 15. This is what i get on the console.. but I don't know those conditions refer to |
| 14:38.10 | Katty | coppice: if by air you mean hair |
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| 14:38.48 | _Paulo_ | ouch |
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| 14:39.03 | hwt | is it a problem to run asterisk off an os on a CF-card? |
| 14:39.09 | hwt | just a small home system. |
| 14:39.19 | hwt | on ramdisk. |
| 14:39.22 | hwt | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:39.31 | coppice | Katty: cool - oh, sorry, that's air conditioner |
| 14:39.44 | epablo | hwt: I've seen it on a linksys router |
| 14:40.03 | [TK]D-Fender | Katty: mew. |
| 14:40.09 | hwt | epablo: yeah, but that might be heavily customized. |
| 14:40.30 | hwt | i need to make sure that i don't fry the CF-card. |
| 14:40.57 | epablo | hwt: excuse my ignorance.. whats a CF-card? |
| 14:41.08 | x86 | [TK]D-Fender: any docs on setting up asterisk with sphinx? |
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| 14:41.35 | hwt | epablo: compact flash. |
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| 14:41.48 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: mew. |
| 14:41.49 | hwt | epablo: flash based memory. non-volatile. |
| 14:42.07 | epablo | hwt: thanks |
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| 14:43.06 | Hmmhesays | I hurt |
| 14:43.50 | kardecallan | Anybody knows where material meeting that speaks on as to implement a module in asterisk? |
| 14:44.00 | jbalcomb | woot. talk on the asterisk forums about making the documentation for asterisk similar to PHPs setup |
| 14:44.25 | heka | anybody can help me with Jitter buffer patch for sip? |
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| 14:47.23 | nextime | is there a way to call a function like "RAND()" from agi? |
| 14:47.30 | wunderkin | the php docs are easy to go through, i use them all of the time |
| 14:48.38 | Katty | Hmmhesays: hurt? |
| 14:48.42 | Katty | Hmmhesays: did that chica beat you up? |
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| 14:49.02 | Mauro__ | anyone has a GET data AGI program? |
| 14:49.15 | Katty | Mauro__: hi |
| 14:49.21 | Mauro__ | Hi :P |
| 14:49.26 | Katty | nice of you to be friendly |
| 14:49.31 | Katty | before you started blurting out your question |
| 14:49.32 | Mauro__ | sorry |
| 14:49.38 | unixgeek | eBay currently has a Varion v400p for $200. Is it worth picking up this card to start playing with or should I really be considering something like the te410p? |
| 14:49.47 | Mauro__ | ok here I go again |
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| 14:49.56 | Mauro__ | Hi |
| 14:49.58 | Katty | hi! |
| 14:50.24 | SplasPood | Can any developers familiar with chan_sip comment on this post http://threebit.net/mail-archive/asterisk-dev/msg01448.html |
| 14:50.44 | Mauro__ | does anyone has an AGI program that has a GET DATA? |
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| 14:52.27 | kardecallan | Does anybody know where I can find stuff for developping asterisk based application? I want to add a module to asterisk. |
| 14:54.18 | _Paulo_ | The source, Luke, use the source. |
| 14:54.38 | Hmmhesays | Katty: booze beat me up |
| 14:54.48 | Katty | Hmmhesays: well, you smack it back then. |
| 14:55.03 | Mauro__ | I m trying to make an AGI program that captures some data but I always get a timeout :( |
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| 14:55.34 | Mauro__ | I also have some messages to the console via stderr but i cant read them on the console :( |
| 14:55.41 | Mauro__ | any tip? |
| 14:55.45 | epablo | Mauro__: I use the perl module for AGI |
| 14:56.49 | Katty | Hmmhesays: i watched rocky horror at the university last night. |
| 14:56.57 | Hmmhesays | cool |
| 14:57.01 | Katty | Hmmhesays: we all went dressed up....in boots and corsets and things |
| 14:57.07 | Katty | it was grand. |
| 14:57.11 | Hmmhesays | I got drunk and druled over this hot female |
| 14:57.37 | Hmmhesays | she was like 6'1 |
| 14:57.44 | Katty | damn |
| 14:57.55 | Katty | isn't that taller than you? |
| 14:57.57 | iDunno | that's tall |
| 14:58.02 | Hmmhesays | oh man you have no idea, one of those naturally pretty girls, very little makeup |
| 14:58.11 | Hmmhesays | yeah she's about an inch taller than me |
| 14:58.22 | Katty | scary |
| 14:58.39 | Hmmhesays | oh man, i'd clip my toe nails to take her home |
| 14:58.58 | Katty | whatever happened to that other chick? |
| 14:59.03 | Mauro__ | I m using python but I ll look to the perl AGI :P |
| 14:59.06 | Katty | she finally decide to get married or something? |
| 14:59.07 | Hmmhesays | she dumped me |
| 14:59.23 | Katty | aww. |
| 14:59.50 | Hmmhesays | for the better |
| 14:59.58 | Hmmhesays | she was killing me |
| 15:00.06 | Katty | sounds like she was /quite/ the drama queen |
| 15:00.18 | jbalcomb | Is there a linux equivalent for the Cisco command 'show ip route'? |
| 15:00.18 | Hmmhesays | a week later, I was back in prime form.. hooked up with some hot chick friday night |
| 15:00.41 | [TK]D-Fender | jbalcomb : "route -an" |
| 15:00.44 | *** part/#asterisk epablo (n=epablo@200.84.7.239) |
| 15:01.10 | fourcheeze | route -n |
| 15:01.32 | Katty | Hmmhesays: erik is going to beijing for an internship, and then to singapore to study abroad. |
| 15:01.35 | fourcheeze | route -a doesn't work here |
| 15:01.51 | Katty | Hmmhesays: i visited adam a couple weeks back...two weekends in a row.....but he's kinda far away |
| 15:02.04 | Hmmhesays | which one is the indiana guy |
| 15:02.10 | jbalcomb | [TK]D-Fender fourcheeze show ip route on cisco allows you to specify an address and it tells you where it goes |
| 15:02.11 | Katty | that's adam |
| 15:02.23 | Katty | Hmmhesays: but then i ran into this guy down here in cape....long hair vegetarian guy. |
| 15:02.40 | Katty | Hmmhesays: he's not /real/ geeky, but he's the head guy for the best buy geek squad. |
| 15:02.45 | Katty | Hmmhesays: so a smidgen. |
| 15:02.57 | Hmmhesays | interesting |
| 15:03.00 | Katty | Hmmhesays: and i also met another chick last night. |
| 15:03.10 | Hmmhesays | you could be retarded and be the head of the geek squad, no offense |
| 15:03.16 | [TK]D-Fender | jbalcomb : "traceroute [ip/host]" ? |
| 15:03.17 | Katty | indeed |
| 15:03.21 | Katty | but he knows a little bit |
| 15:03.37 | Katty | better than some random dumb idiot in my opinion |
| 15:04.19 | jbalcomb | [TK]D-Fender yeah, i'm going with that as my best option. for some reason i can get to my phones web interface from my desktop but i cant get to the server. |
| 15:04.25 | Hmmhesays | Katty: true |
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| 15:04.45 | tzanger | I am rather biased against buying ANY product with "GEEK SQUAD" embossed on it anywhere. Best Buy cables, parts,e tc... <shudders> |
| 15:04.48 | jbalcomb | [TK]D-Fender i'm leaning toward firewall rules at this point. im just getting tired of having to ssh around to get to my phone server. |
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| 15:05.39 | Hmmhesays | i bought a psu from best buy yesterday |
| 15:05.44 | jbalcomb | tzanger worst thing ever? someone asked me what i do, i says i'm a computer guy, they says 'oh, like the geek squad' ... *silence* |
| 15:05.50 | Katty | :< |
| 15:05.53 | tzanger | jbalcomb: that's why I don't bother |
| 15:05.55 | qseek | hi all |
| 15:06.00 | Katty | hi qseek! |
| 15:06.00 | fourcheeze | what is "the geek squad" ? |
| 15:06.03 | tzanger | I am thankful that I have the option to say I'm an engineer :-) |
| 15:06.08 | Katty | fourcheeze: they're techs from best buy |
| 15:06.10 | tzanger | fourcheeze: best buy |
| 15:06.11 | Hmmhesays | one thing I like about the geek squad is it is a good image for geeks |
| 15:06.12 | qseek | hey katty, jbalcomb |
| 15:06.14 | fourcheeze | ok |
| 15:06.14 | Katty | fourcheeze: do house calls and stuff. |
| 15:06.17 | qseek | a question for y'all |
| 15:06.18 | fourcheeze | what is "best buy" ? |
| 15:06.19 | Katty | fourcheeze: they're pretty dumb. |
| 15:06.27 | jbalcomb | tzanger yeah, im thinking about going with 'project coordinator' ;) |
| 15:06.29 | Hmmhesays | they're "cool" regular people can relate to them |
| 15:06.30 | Katty | fourcheeze: it's a computer store chain thingy |
| 15:06.36 | fourcheeze | ahh ok |
| 15:06.36 | Katty | fourcheeze: bestbuy.com |
| 15:06.47 | Hmmhesays | I do like best buy though |
| 15:06.56 | qseek | if I set a variable in one context can I reference it from some other context in the dialplan within the same call |
| 15:07.02 | Katty | the geek squad is not cool. |
| 15:07.04 | Hmmhesays | every time i walk in there, there is a fantastically hot woman to look at |
| 15:07.06 | Katty | they make me want to burn things |
| 15:07.08 | fourcheeze | are they one of those places that pretends to be cheap but isn't? |
| 15:07.14 | qseek | the geek squad is a rip off :) |
| 15:07.20 | Katty | cause i'm a /very/ cool geek. |
| 15:07.21 | Hmmhesays | Katty: to a regular person they are, they give geeks a good image |
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| 15:07.26 | Katty | and don't need a shiny title to prove it. |
| 15:07.45 | jbalcomb | hey qseek |
| 15:08.21 | Katty | Hmmhesays: which songs did i send you yesterday? |
| 15:08.56 | qseek | so dudes/dudettes anyone have an answer for my question |
| 15:09.02 | coppice | eh? somewhere is selling fantastically hot women? :-\ |
| 15:09.07 | Hmmhesays | Mezzanine - Teardrop |
| 15:09.16 | Hmmhesays | what question? |
| 15:09.16 | Katty | the band is massive attack by the way |
| 15:09.20 | Katty | mezzanine is the album |
| 15:09.23 | Hmmhesays | ahh ok |
| 15:09.31 | FlyboySR22 | qseek, are you setting the var in the globals area..? |
| 15:09.35 | Katty | Hmmhesays: i'm going to send you another oen |
| 15:09.44 | qseek | no just a call to the database to set the variable |
| 15:09.59 | FlyboySR22 | within a context in your dialplan..? |
| 15:10.04 | qseek | yes |
| 15:10.15 | qseek | then the call is handed off to another context |
| 15:10.44 | FlyboySR22 | humm.. I know all variables withint the global area of extensions.conf persist, but never tried setting on in a separate context and trying it...should be pretty easy to try however.. |
| 15:11.04 | qseek | i know i was just trying to find out if someone has done it |
| 15:11.14 | qseek | what if i set it as a setglobalvar in the context |
| 15:11.20 | Hmmhesays | Katty cool, |
| 15:11.44 | qseek | would i be able to overwrite it later on |
| 15:11.45 | FlyboySR22 | I 'know' if you set it in [globals] it persists... |
| 15:12.03 | Hmmhesays | Have you heard that new weezer tune? 'perfect situation' |
| 15:12.09 | Katty | not yet |
| 15:12.09 | Hmmhesays | I like it a lot |
| 15:12.10 | Katty | you gonna send it? |
| 15:12.12 | qseek | so if i set a dummy value in the globals area..then I could reference that variable from anywhere..can i modify it |
| 15:12.13 | Hmmhesays | sure |
| 15:12.14 | Katty | k |
| 15:12.39 | FlyboySR22 | qseek - hold a sec, I am trying it |
| 15:13.06 | Katty | Hmmhesays: it's sent. lemme know if ya like it. |
| 15:13.19 | qseek | k |
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| 15:13.43 | Hmmhesays | k |
| 15:13.47 | tmccrary | exten => 9999,1,VoiceMailMain(${CALLERIDNUM}) |
| 15:13.58 | tmccrary | Is there a reason why that still asks for the user's mailbox number? |
| 15:14.17 | Hmmhesays | because the mailbox number in ${CALLERIDNUM} doesn't exist |
| 15:14.52 | Hmmhesays | cuoumo rivers does some wicked guitar stuff in it |
| 15:15.13 | tmccrary | ah, that was exactly my problem (duh). THanks Hmm! |
| 15:15.20 | Hmmhesays | np tmccrary |
| 15:15.23 | eric_hill | mornin' all |
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| 15:15.35 | Mauro__ | when I make an agi script |
| 15:15.44 | Mauro__ | I have to add it to an extension |
| 15:15.48 | sevard | where can I get a cheap sip line twith pstn termination to pump into my pbx (not fwd)? |
| 15:15.54 | sevard | like cheap and easy for a couple of days |
| 15:15.58 | Hmmhesays | hello eric_hill |
| 15:16.06 | Hmmhesays | hello sevard |
| 15:16.09 | sevard | hey Hmmhesays |
| 15:16.19 | Katty | i still read that as eric_clapton |
| 15:16.25 | Hmmhesays | lol |
| 15:16.25 | sevard | Katty: excellent |
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| 15:16.40 | qseek | so let us take a poll |
| 15:16.45 | Katty | i vote no |
| 15:16.50 | qseek | would u build your own computer or buy it |
| 15:16.53 | Hmmhesays | does it involve boobies? |
| 15:16.53 | tmccrary | Is there a way to alias mailboxes in voicemail.conf? So that a voicemail left in 100, also gets left in 101 and 102? |
| 15:16.54 | qseek | i am debating |
| 15:17.01 | sevard | qseek: that's a no brainer. |
| 15:17.08 | Katty | qseek: it depends on what the computer is doing |
| 15:17.08 | qseek | whether to build one |
| 15:17.09 | Hmmhesays | you want cheap? buy a dell |
| 15:17.22 | mishehu | you want hell? buy a dell. |
| 15:17.23 | qseek | well this dual core board/motherboard combo is for 149 |
| 15:17.29 | Katty | yay mishehu! |
| 15:17.31 | qseek | a harddrive would be another 80 |
| 15:17.33 | Katty | i demand a hug. |
| 15:17.35 | FlyboySR22 | qseek, Yes, if you set it in [globals] you can reset it in another context and it follow through, however it will stay at whatever you reset it to...until you reset it again. Tested on 1.2.5 |
| 15:17.37 | Mauro__ | should I enable the LD_KERNEL_ASSUME on kernel 2.6.16 with asterisk 1.2.6? |
| 15:17.38 | mishehu | Katty: hey. |
| 15:17.39 | sevard | qseek:I always always _always_ build every single pc. Every PC I've ever owned. |
| 15:17.50 | Hmmhesays | sometimes its just not worth it |
| 15:18.01 | Katty | yeah, sometimes it really isn't |
| 15:18.06 | qseek | flyboy can you try the other way see if u dont set it as global does it work for u |
| 15:18.07 | Katty | you can buy commercial machines REALLY cheap |
| 15:18.11 | Katty | especially if they come with an LCD |
| 15:18.11 | sevard | Hmmhesays: 90% of the time, I've found, it is. |
| 15:18.13 | Hmmhesays | if I had 4 grand to spend , sure as shit, i'd buy a high end alienware machine |
| 15:18.52 | qseek | well ok so back to the pc..149 + 79 + 109 for 1 GB DDR2 RAM and a video card |
| 15:18.55 | Hmmhesays | then I would game to my hearts delight |
| 15:18.56 | coppice | high end alienwares are more than double that :-) |
| 15:19.02 | qseek | that would make an awesome machine for about 400 |
| 15:19.19 | Hmmhesays | true, i'd buy a mid range alienware machine... one that could blow wimmins clothes off |
| 15:19.28 | Katty | k, lets NOT get that one then |
| 15:19.37 | Hmmhesays | cept Katty's |
| 15:19.44 | Katty | kthx. |
| 15:19.50 | Hmmhesays | and my mom's |
| 15:19.53 | Katty | oh god. |
| 15:19.58 | Katty | stop it. it's not 10 yet |
| 15:20.01 | Hmmhesays | LOL |
| 15:20.06 | qseek | i know i broke my lcd monitor so i am debating to get one from dell , just sell the box on freebay and keep the monitor |
| 15:20.15 | qseek | would be cheaper than just buying the monito |
| 15:20.29 | Hmmhesays | keep the box and buy another deal |
| 15:20.31 | Hmmhesays | *dell |
| 15:20.53 | Hmmhesays | interesting song |
| 15:21.37 | sevard | I thought there was a sip provider with pstn termination that would let you buy like one or four days worth of service cheap |
| 15:21.53 | qseek | sevard really which one :) |
| 15:22.11 | Katty | Hmmhesays: this weezer song is too heavy for pre-noon stuff |
| 15:22.29 | Katty | Hmmhesays: i'll listen to it later |
| 15:22.36 | sevard | qseek: it was mentioned here a while ago.. i just can't remember the name |
| 15:22.39 | znoG | anyone use spandsp? |
| 15:22.46 | Katty | ha, i read that as spandex |
| 15:22.54 | qseek | now now katty |
| 15:22.56 | Hmmhesays | katty: it gets lighter after the intro |
| 15:22.56 | qseek | lol |
| 15:23.04 | Katty | qseek: don't you nownow me |
| 15:23.08 | znoG | ;) hehe .... back to the problem :) can't receive any faxes properly. It does the rxfax thing for a while but doesn't receive anything then drops the call |
| 15:23.27 | Katty | znoG: i bet that makes you all sad inside, doesn't it. |
| 15:23.43 | qseek | flyboy u still there |
| 15:23.54 | FlyboySR22 | yep |
| 15:24.02 | Hmmhesays | cool song |
| 15:24.09 | qseek | were u able to give that a shot please |
| 15:24.26 | FlyboySR22 | yea, I sent it over already - here it is again :-) |
| 15:24.26 | Katty | Hmmhesays: inertia creeps? |
| 15:24.28 | FlyboySR22 | qseek, Yes, if you set it in [globals] you can reset it in another context and it follow through, however it will stay at whatever you reset it to...until you reset it again. Tested on 1.2.5 |
| 15:24.29 | Hmmhesays | yeah |
| 15:24.35 | Katty | yeah, i love the drumline |
| 15:24.42 | qseek | k thanks |
| 15:24.49 | Katty | my poor steering wheel's going to be all beat up |
| 15:24.51 | qseek | laters dudes/dudettes |
| 15:24.53 | Katty | that album is /great/ |
| 15:24.55 | qseek | exit |
| 15:24.55 | Hmmhesays | it's pretty cool |
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| 15:25.32 | Hmmhesays | have you heard trey cool's drum work in "jesus of suburbia" sweet geebus, 3/4 and 4/4 time in one song |
| 15:25.57 | Hmmhesays | drummer from greenday |
| 15:26.08 | Katty | newp, i haven't |
| 15:26.55 | Hmmhesays | probably one of greenday's best songs |
| 15:26.59 | znoG | so nobody uses spandsp? |
| 15:27.02 | znoG | Katty: yes, yes it does. |
| 15:27.06 | Hmmhesays | i used it way back |
| 15:28.08 | znoG | Hmmhesays: and it just "works" ? |
| 15:28.14 | znoG | i'm pretty sure i have it setup right |
| 15:28.22 | znoG | just doesn't successfully receive any faxes! |
| 15:29.03 | Katty | znoG: huh? |
| 15:29.06 | Katty | oh |
| 15:29.09 | Katty | k |
| 15:30.06 | Hmmhesays | znoG: i haven't used spandsp in over a year |
| 15:30.38 | eric_hill | Hmmhesays: ever heard Mickey Heart's Planet Drum? |
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| 15:31.15 | Katty | file: i'm really tired today :< |
| 15:31.31 | file[laptop] | Katty: tried running around in circles? |
| 15:31.32 | _Paulo_ | znoG, I use spandsp |
| 15:31.41 | Katty | file[laptop]: to sleepy |
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| 15:32.12 | _Paulo_ | znoG, what * version, SO/distro, libspadsp version are you using? |
| 15:32.27 | file[laptop] | Katty: :( |
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| 15:35.58 | znoG | _Paulo_: asterisk 1.2.6, libspandsp was 0.0.2, going to try 0.0.3 now. Fedora Core 4 |
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| 15:36.38 | cybergypsy | hi folks |
| 15:36.47 | cybergypsy | i am trying to get this working :- |
| 15:36.47 | dynamicpulse | hey cybergypsy |
| 15:36.50 | _Paulo_ | znoG, right... what hardware? |
| 15:36.50 | cybergypsy | exten => 613,1,System(/root/mldonkey-slow.sh) |
| 15:36.50 | cybergypsy | exten => 613,2,Dial(IAX2/iaxfwd/613) |
| 15:36.50 | cybergypsy | exten => 613,3,System(/root/mldonkey-fast.sh) |
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| 15:36.53 | powerchip | cybergypsy hy |
| 15:37.12 | Hmmhesays | eric_hill no i haven't |
| 15:37.18 | cybergypsy | its to slow down a p2p app before making a call and speed it up after the call |
| 15:37.27 | znoG | _Paulo_: just a standard FXO card |
| 15:37.33 | cybergypsy | priority 1 and 2 work |
| 15:37.41 | cybergypsy | but not priority 3 |
| 15:37.47 | _Paulo_ | znoG, some cards have hardware bugs |
| 15:37.51 | powerchip | znoG: way nor Fedora Core 5? |
| 15:37.56 | znoG | _Paulo_: yea, could be possible. |
| 15:37.59 | powerchip | not* |
| 15:38.01 | _Paulo_ | znoG, that causes frame slips |
| 15:38.09 | dynamicpulse | does anyone here use TelaSIP as their VOIP-> PSTN connection? |
| 15:38.24 | trelane_ | I am running several Cisco 7960's with the latest SIP firmware. When accessing Voicemail or navigating any internal menu Asterisk does not pick up DTMF tones from these phones, however if I dial out and then back in asterisk picks up all dtmf tones from these phones. Has anyone seen this problem before? asterisk is latest revision, running on gentoo x86 |
| 15:38.28 | znoG | _Paulo_: does that mean that if I try and send incoming faxes to a fax machine via SIP it would have the same frame slips? |
| 15:38.28 | _Paulo_ | znoG, do you have echo cancel off? |
| 15:38.42 | sevard | so, there isn't a cheap test line sip provider that anyone knows about? |
| 15:38.42 | znoG | _Paulo_: in zapata.conf? hang on ... |
| 15:38.53 | powerchip | znoG: way not Fedora Core 5? |
| 15:39.40 | dynamicpulse | sevard how cheap do you want? |
| 15:39.51 | _Paulo_ | znoG, I think "faxdetect = both" is supposed to turn echo off when * detects a fax tone... |
| 15:40.18 | _Paulo_ | znoG, Im not really sure. But echo cancel could ruin your faxing. |
| 15:40.41 | znoG | powerchip: because fc5 came out after i installed the server |
| 15:40.46 | znoG | _Paulo_: yea, im pretty sure it turns it off too. |
| 15:41.11 | powerchip | znoG: ok |
| 15:41.13 | znoG | _Paulo_: can't find app_rxfax.c for spandsp 0.0.3, so i have to stick to 0.0.2 |
| 15:41.19 | sevard | dynamicpulse: i thought there was a provider that was a a buck a week for a test line |
| 15:41.29 | dynamicpulse | sevard wow |
| 15:41.41 | dynamicpulse | sevard i havn't heard of anything that cheap |
| 15:41.45 | sevard | a buck a day would be fine, i just don't need it for a month |
| 15:41.48 | _Paulo_ | znoG, you should try iaxmodem if rx_fax is not working for you. |
| 15:41.51 | sevard | 5 days max |
| 15:42.01 | dynamicpulse | sevard you should sign up for a plan that you pay per min |
| 15:42.21 | dynamicpulse | sevard that way it should be very cheap... if you are just testing |
| 15:42.32 | znoG | _Paulo_: even if it's all on the same box? |
| 15:43.04 | _Paulo_ | znoG, yeps, the last iaxmodem rox. |
| 15:43.58 | sevard | dynamicpulse: can you suggest a provider i could get started with in a couple minutes? |
| 15:44.00 | znoG | _Paulo_: how does iaxmodem work? i didn't quite understand how it works. |
| 15:44.07 | sevard | dynamicpulse: sip lines, not iax. |
| 15:44.15 | _Paulo_ | znoG, its a virtual modem |
| 15:44.15 | Hmmhesays | sixtel |
| 15:44.37 | brad_mssw | eh, i wouldn't recomment sixtel |
| 15:44.44 | brad_mssw | s/recomment/recommend/ |
| 15:44.55 | Hmmhesays | i don't have any problems with them, I use them as a backup route |
| 15:45.01 | _Paulo_ | znoG, it creates a /dev/ttyIAX, you can use minicom like with a standard rs232 modem. |
| 15:45.13 | brad_mssw | i have them as a backup route as well, but it tends to go down _a_lot_ |
| 15:45.16 | _Paulo_ | znoG, send at commands, etc. |
| 15:45.19 | dynamicpulse | sevard: not sure on any service that is that fast.... i am sure some of these other guys would know ... I think freeworlddialup now does pay services... and their turnaround is fast |
| 15:45.29 | brad_mssw | and i'm pretty close to them (hops wise) ... my other carriers seem more reliable |
| 15:45.30 | Hmmhesays | i have a couple 800 numbers with them, that have been stable for the last month |
| 15:45.53 | brad_mssw | junctionnetworks is more reliable, just pricy |
| 15:46.05 | sevard | so does anyone know of a provider i could get started with _today_ |
| 15:46.32 | brad_mssw | sevard: iax.cc(sixtel), junctionnetworks, teliax, nufone |
| 15:46.37 | sevard | gotcha |
| 15:47.11 | Hmmhesays | asterlink |
| 15:47.14 | Mauro__ | do I have to use LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.1 with kernel 2.6.16 and asterisk 1.2.6? |
| 15:47.16 | brad_mssw | if teliax only had an east-coast server |
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| 15:47.35 | fnordian | i've got strange effect in my voicebox |
| 15:47.52 | fnordian | it's told to store recordings as wav and wav49 |
| 15:47.53 | Hmmhesays | me too, i smoked a pack last night, my voice is all froggy |
| 15:48.08 | TUplink | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:48.08 | fnordian | but sometimes, the wav49 is missing |
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| 15:49.33 | backblue | TUplink: use the same codec? |
| 15:49.44 | Hmmhesays | this live sum41 album is kickass |
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| 15:52.28 | TUplink | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:52.55 | bkw_ | I think thats very clear what that means |
| 15:53.24 | bkw_ | its broken :P |
| 15:53.50 | backblue | TUplink: use the same codec? |
| 15:54.14 | bkw_ | the only way to get that working is to only allow the one codec on both legs |
| 15:54.17 | bkw_ | and it should work |
| 15:54.35 | backblue | you have to suport compatible codecs in both legs |
| 15:54.40 | backblue | not the same |
| 15:56.35 | noky | hi |
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| 15:56.48 | noky | i don't have RTP between two gateways SIP |
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| 15:59.06 | GerbilNut | what exactly is RTP? |
| 15:59.19 | Hmmhesays | real time protocol |
| 15:59.37 | *** join/#asterisk GuruDom (n=domiplus@66-202-165-66.rev.knet.ca) |
| 15:59.45 | TUplink | the codec is enabled on both |
| 15:59.53 | TUplink | gsm and ulaw |
| 16:00.20 | tmccrary | I've setup voicemail, however I cannot change my unavailable greeting. When I change it, I can listened to the recording in the menu okay. However, when I call the voicemail box and try to leave a message, it gives me the default greeting. |
| 16:00.21 | jbalcomb | yippy! our new mysql 5 DB server is down again. |
| 16:00.25 | tmccrary | Anyone else have this problem? |
| 16:00.44 | jbalcomb | tmccrary permissions perhaps? |
| 16:00.51 | tmccrary | Also, I can see the files in the vm spool directory |
| 16:00.53 | tmccrary | let me check |
| 16:01.14 | uwe | hello, im trying to get a grand stream bugde tone-100 phone to work with asterisk, according to the documentaion of this hardphone, it should have a web interface, but i cant access it from my browser! doesn any one have any experience with those devices ? |
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| 16:01.52 | tmccrary | Nope, it's not permissions, I have set the vm dir to 777 recursively |
| 16:02.03 | TUplink | notransfer=yes this should disable transfer rite |
| 16:02.27 | TUplink | or dose it still have to have the same codec |
| 16:02.42 | uwe | btw, i can see it using nmap -sS -P0 192.168.183.132, which is the static IP ive set to the phone ... |
| 16:02.54 | tmccrary | uwe...boll? |
| 16:02.55 | tmccrary | ick |
| 16:03.22 | tmccrary | uwe, what ports appear open on the nmap output? |
| 16:04.21 | uwe | none ... |
| 16:04.37 | tmccrary | can you ping it? |
| 16:05.02 | uwe | no it doesnt reply |
| 16:05.35 | uwe | this is the output of nmap MAC Address: 00:0B:82:07:44:BA (Grandstream Networks) |
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| 16:05.54 | tmccrary | okay, maybe try a different ethernet cable. Have you installed any firmware updates lately? |
| 16:05.57 | Katty | i was think 'can you ping it' to the hallelujah music |
| 16:06.00 | uwe | althoug no ports are open ... |
| 16:06.04 | uwe | tmccrary, nop |
| 16:06.16 | tmccrary | Are you on the same subnet physically as the phone? |
| 16:06.24 | uwe | yes ... |
| 16:06.29 | tmccrary | nm, I would assume so, as you get mac info |
| 16:06.30 | Katty | hal le lu jah! can you ping it! hallelujah! hallelujah! can youuuuuuu pingggggg it! |
| 16:06.43 | Katty | except all in the can you ping it bits. |
| 16:06.45 | tmccrary | Have you tried restarting the phone? |
| 16:06.46 | Hmmhesays | whoa |
| 16:06.50 | tmccrary | Like power cycling it? |
| 16:07.16 | uwe | i do that after every change (pull it out from the power) |
| 16:07.46 | tmccrary | Okay. Does the phone turn on (LCD display, lights, etc)? |
| 16:08.00 | uwe | yep ... it does |
| 16:08.13 | tmccrary | okay, I'd say try a different port on your switch and also a different ethernet cable |
| 16:08.37 | tmccrary | Are you sure you set the phone to the right IP address? No typos or anything? |
| 16:08.47 | uwe | i have it directly connected to the ethernet of my computer |
| 16:08.54 | tmccrary | om |
| 16:09.00 | tmccrary | ok, are you using a cross over? |
| 16:09.05 | uwe | well, i tried to telnet it too |
| 16:10.12 | uwe | from the same terminal that returned its mac, ie i just changed nmap to telnet and added port 80 |
| 16:10.33 | tmccrary | okay, are you using a crossover cable between the two? |
| 16:10.42 | uwe | im using a normal cable and plugging it in the PC thingie |
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| 16:11.45 | uwe | ok, ill try to connect it with a cross cable, but i have 2 ports, one for lan (should be straigh to lan) and one for PC (should be straight to PC and handles crossing) |
| 16:12.59 | uwe | no, with a cross cabale it doesnt see it at all |
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| 16:15.12 | uwe | ok, with cross cable , it doesnt work to pc, but works to LAN , still everything is the same |
| 16:15.46 | tmccrary | To connect the phone directly to your NIC, you should need a crossover |
| 16:16.06 | uwe | i just did that tmccrary , the same thing |
| 16:16.09 | tmccrary | ah, nm, you have a switch in the phone |
| 16:16.17 | tmccrary | I misunderstood |
| 16:16.40 | uwe | yes, i have two ports, one handles the switching and one doesnt |
| 16:16.54 | tmccrary | So basically it goes switch -> phone lan -> computer correct? |
| 16:17.33 | justinu | RJ-21x is the actually name for the connector |
| 16:17.53 | uwe | NO |
| 16:18.13 | uwe | switch->lan pc->computer |
| 16:18.23 | tmccrary | wtf |
| 16:18.30 | uwe | where lan and pc are the names of the NIC interfaces on the phone |
| 16:18.52 | tmccrary | we're talking about the same thing |
| 16:18.53 | uwe | um those are two statements |
| 16:19.04 | salviadud | anybody know about a free/open outbound proxy? |
| 16:19.05 | uwe | i suppose ... |
| 16:19.24 | linlin | isnt fwd.pulver.net/com/org one ? |
| 16:19.31 | TUplink | why arnt my IAX 2 IAX calls working |
| 16:19.46 | salviadud | yeah, but i need to register |
| 16:20.07 | salviadud | i'm looking for an outbound proxy that does not require passwords |
| 16:20.35 | TUplink | fwd.pulver.net is a proxy.... SIP or IAX |
| 16:20.45 | Nugget | I'm trying and failing to come up with a legitimate reason for anyone to want that. |
| 16:21.16 | justinu | yeah, fwd will proxy without auth, i believe |
| 16:21.54 | salviadud | really... |
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| 16:23.46 | dokhench | don't suppose anyone in channel knows of a quick and easy way to store an array with something like DBPut in asterisk? |
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| 16:38.14 | brodiem | what are people using for sending faxes to an analog fax machine? seems to be quite a few options available.. I'm currently using a SPA1001 w/ g711 with "hit-or-miss" results and slow transmission speeds |
| 16:39.00 | brad_mssw | most reliable is going to be sipura 2100 w/v3 firmware talking T.38 to a SIP proxy which supports T.38 |
| 16:39.31 | brodiem | how is the * support for t38? |
| 16:40.20 | brodiem | I thought I remembered reading it was in expirimental stages stil |
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| 16:44.05 | brodiem | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/T.38 |
| 16:44.08 | brodiem | looks to be pretty shotty |
| 16:44.12 | *** join/#asterisk _andre (n=andre@fosforo.k8.com.br) |
| 16:44.27 | _andre | hello |
| 16:44.38 | _andre | anyone using sip users config loaded from a database? |
| 16:44.53 | tmccrary | me |
| 16:45.10 | _andre | are you using rtcachefriends=yes? |
| 16:45.19 | *** join/#asterisk mino (n=Julian@pD951BDA3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 16:45.22 | tmccrary | no |
| 16:45.29 | mino | hi guys |
| 16:45.38 | MikeJ__ | dingaling aling |
| 16:45.44 | _andre | tmccrary: so if the db fails, you lose your users? |
| 16:45.55 | mino | i installed the new asterisk version at my server |
| 16:46.05 | mino | but i cant get realtime to work |
| 16:46.09 | _andre | i'd like to have a way to load the config only on startup |
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| 16:46.11 | mut | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERt6kn_ubF4&search=skate |
| 16:46.13 | mut | check that fooker out |
| 16:46.20 | _andre | instead of querying the database all the time |
| 16:46.40 | mino | ERROR[28161]: res_config_mysql.c:615 mysql_reconnect: MySQL RealTime: Failed to connect |
| 16:46.45 | mino | but my configuration ist finde |
| 16:46.48 | mino | fine |
| 16:46.55 | _andre | i thought rtcachefriends would do it, but it seems it doesn't... |
| 16:46.58 | mino | it works for cdr_mysql perfect |
| 16:47.08 | mino | anyone a idea? |
| 16:47.20 | tmccrary | mino are you sure you cannot connect from the host your specificing? locahost and 127.0.0.1 are different for example |
| 16:47.24 | mino | or does anyone know howto to see the debug msgs of the realtime system? |
| 16:47.33 | mino | i used localhost |
| 16:47.35 | x86 | brodiem: i can recieve faxes just fine over SIP |
| 16:47.52 | _andre | tmccrary: any idea if that's possible? |
| 16:48.02 | x86 | brodiem: have not tried outbound yet |
| 16:48.49 | salviadud | is there such a thing as an outbound proxy that does not require registration? |
| 16:48.57 | mino | tmccrary: i use the same settings for cdr_mysql and that works great |
| 16:49.02 | brad_mssw | brodiem: T.38 pass-through works ok ... your voip provider would need to support T.38 on their SIP proxy ... most don't |
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| 16:49.40 | mino | but no chance for realtime to get a connection to the database |
| 16:49.53 | mino | it seems realtime make no attempt to connect |
| 16:50.25 | mino | because in /var/log/mysql.log is no asterisk specific entry |
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| 16:51.32 | mino | no realtime asterisk specific entry :) |
| 16:51.36 | RageMax | are there any resources out there for enterprise-class asterisk deployment? |
| 16:51.42 | mino | only cdr entrys |
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| 16:52.15 | Hmmhesays | RageMax yeah hours and hours of hard work, testing, mountain dew, pizza, swearing |
| 16:52.20 | tmccrary | lol |
| 16:52.23 | RageMax | heh |
| 16:52.40 | RageMax | so no one has written down their experiences anywhere ;) |
| 16:52.52 | tmccrary | I'm currently finishing testing asterisk servers that are in remote parts of china and taiwan |
| 16:53.00 | tmccrary | debugging is fuuuuuun |
| 16:53.07 | mino | tmccrary: the error code says "look at the debug info" how can i get detailed debug infos from realtime mysql? |
| 16:53.15 | Hmmhesays | Most of it is in my head |
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| 16:53.30 | tmccrary | yes, that way they can't outsource you ;) |
| 16:53.30 | Hmmhesays | I suppose I probably should document it somewheres |
| 16:53.36 | Hmmhesays | true |
| 16:53.58 | RageMax | well, maybe this is something I can research then, I'm doing some work with asterisk till novemeber or so |
| 16:54.04 | RageMax | maybe I could come up with some docs |
| 16:54.11 | tmccrary | man, this sucks. Asterisk isn't even looking at the voicemail boxes for unavail.gsm, it's going straight to vm-intro (without any errors or anything) |
| 16:54.33 | mino | no one an idea? |
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| 16:58.01 | Qwell | tmccrary: Voicemail(u${EXTEN}) ? |
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| 16:58.53 | tmccrary | Qwell: Thank you for the help. What does u do? |
| 16:59.04 | Qwell | plays the unavailable message |
| 16:59.11 | Qwell | show application voicemail |
| 17:00.29 | tmccrary | eh |
| 17:00.34 | tmccrary | I am getting login in correct |
| 17:00.40 | tmccrary | login incorrect |
| 17:00.49 | tmccrary | that's odd, considering I'm trying to leave a voicemail |
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| 17:01.22 | Hmmhesays | does centos have an apt client? |
| 17:03.33 | salviadud | ARRRRR, have any of you landlubbers seen an outbound proxy without registration? |
| 17:06.45 | tmccrary | Qwell: Thank you, that was my problem. |
| 17:07.39 | mino | hmmm |
| 17:08.22 | mino | please help :( "Reaktime Mysql Connect error: Check debug for more info" how can i check for more info? I already used asterisk -vvvvc |
| 17:08.56 | mino | tmccrary: i have set the mysql user "asterisk" to host allow: % |
| 17:09.01 | mino | but still the same problem |
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| 17:10.13 | Hmmhesays | ok yum has gone retarded on me |
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| 17:11.53 | shido6 | got a video Hmmhesays ? |
| 17:12.52 | x86 | gah... |
| 17:12.59 | x86 | i cant get anything done i wanted to do today... |
| 17:13.24 | tmccrary | mino: You have the mysql client libraries installed, correct? |
| 17:13.31 | Hmmhesays | video of? |
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| 17:18.23 | salviadud | video of yum being retarded |
| 17:20.46 | Hmmhesays | ahhh |
| 17:20.56 | Hmmhesays | unfortunately no |
| 17:22.41 | opc0de | hey is anyone here running asterisk as non-root? |
| 17:22.53 | salviadud | is it possible? |
| 17:22.59 | salviadud | i don't think so maaaaan |
| 17:23.08 | salviadud | you be smokin' some high |
| 17:23.18 | Abydos313 | share ;) |
| 17:23.44 | trelane_ | I'm doing the documentation thing, what are the most common actions/tasks your users do with their phone? |
| 17:23.57 | salviadud | well, transfer calls using flash |
| 17:24.05 | salviadud | place on hold |
| 17:24.15 | salviadud | call mom |
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| 17:24.35 | salviadud | prank call the mexican embassy in japan |
| 17:24.55 | salviadud | lotsa stuff dude |
| 17:25.10 | trelane_ | you have users that prank call the mexican embassy? |
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| 17:25.21 | SpaceBass | howdyt |
| 17:25.22 | salviadud | i personally do that |
| 17:25.29 | SpaceBass | s/howdyt/howdy |
| 17:25.47 | salviadud | haha, i speak spanish mang |
| 17:25.56 | salviadud | i am also mexican |
| 17:26.24 | salviadud | i call my brothers that are in a foreign land and laugh at them because they are so far away from a taco stand |
| 17:26.26 | mino | tmccrary: yes i have install the mysql client dev libs |
| 17:26.35 | salviadud | i can feel their grief... they mourn for the tacos |
| 17:26.45 | mino | tmccrary: i think cdr_mysql wont go if there is no functional library or? |
| 17:27.24 | mino | libmysqlclient12-dev is already the newest version. |
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| 17:27.50 | Leland | howdy doody all |
| 17:28.11 | mino | hi Leland |
| 17:28.15 | Leland | how goes ? |
| 17:28.54 | mino | very strange |
| 17:29.09 | x86 | has anyone successfully gotten app_nv_backgrounddetect to compile correctly? |
| 17:30.10 | salviadud | define correctly |
| 17:30.59 | x86 | without errors and into a binary form that can be loaded into asterisk ;) |
| 17:31.25 | stoffell | i read on the mailing list about Digium bringin out a BRI card soon ? is it just a rumor? |
| 17:32.06 | tzanger | stoffell: how about contacting sales@ and finding out? |
| 17:32.07 | Leland | I thought digium already had a BRI card ? |
| 17:32.13 | x86 | Leland: why would you do that? |
| 17:32.21 | trelane_ | I want a BEER card |
| 17:32.22 | trelane_ | screw BRI |
| 17:32.25 | x86 | Leland: whats wrong with using a zaptel card? |
| 17:32.25 | brodiem | what are people using for sending faxes to an analog fax machine? seems to be quite a few options available.. I'm currently using a SPA1001 w/ g711 with "hit-or-miss" results and slow transmission speeds |
| 17:32.25 | stoffell | tzanger, okay, will do that, ... but thought people here would give a faster response :d |
| 17:32.32 | x86 | salviadud: ? |
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| 17:32.47 | zedkatuf | hi all, am using nvfaxdetect with aah2.7 & the nerdvittles hacks... am trying to get fax working on voip (I know it's possibly not going to work!)....I get a pdf sent via email, but understandably, it's a blank file...so my question is more a matter of interest: Has anyone managed to get faxes sent 'fairly reliably' using voip...? :) |
| 17:33.03 | salviadud | sorry i took so long |
| 17:33.07 | Leland | x86: because the X100P's don't work correctly in the UK -- wrong line impedence, and the newer 400's are a hell of a lot more expensive than even five or six SPA3000's |
| 17:33.09 | salviadud | i guess my answer would be now |
| 17:33.12 | salviadud | i mean no |
| 17:33.13 | Leland | and that's without the daughter cards |
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| 17:33.32 | salviadud | can't compile that thing with gcc 3.4 |
| 17:33.46 | Leland | plus my asterisk box is in rack in the garage and the phone lines are in the house ;) |
| 17:33.50 | salviadud | maybe im not fit to be a *nix admin |
| 17:33.54 | stoffell | tzanger, just wondering.. that would mean the end of bristuff.... |
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| 17:35.02 | zoa | nah it would not mean the end of bristuff |
| 17:35.07 | zoa | the digium card is more high end |
| 17:35.10 | zoa | with on board dsp's |
| 17:35.17 | zoa | and thus a higher price range |
| 17:35.17 | unixgeek | Quick question: Does anyone have any strong feelings about the Varion V400P quad T1 card? |
| 17:35.20 | zoa | its not really competition |
| 17:35.21 | Hmmhesays | she said she needed a break , a little time to think, then she left for cleveland with some guy name leland that she met at the bank |
| 17:35.23 | x86 | Leland: ah |
| 17:35.28 | x86 | Leland: in that case it makes sense ;) |
| 17:35.30 | zoa | the varion v400p is outdated |
| 17:35.35 | zoa | its like the old digiums |
| 17:35.40 | zoa | the newer ones are better |
| 17:36.09 | stoffell | zoa, no, but it would make life easier.. one could then use a 'built-in' bri driver... (i'd like it much more anyway..) |
| 17:36.22 | zoa | well that is already there |
| 17:36.26 | zoa | its called chan_mISDN |
| 17:36.29 | unixgeek | zoa: Yes, I realize that, but am I doing a dis-service to myself if I pick one up for about $200? |
| 17:36.36 | zoa | depends |
| 17:36.42 | stoffell | yes zoa, and also visdn, but the zaptel has better echo can.. in my case that is .. |
| 17:36.56 | zoa | is it for a customer ? |
| 17:36.57 | unixgeek | zoa: I have a situation here where I could use a T1 card, but I don't want to put a lot of $$ into it right now. |
| 17:36.59 | stoffell | zoa, for PRI it's easy, get the source, compile, and you have the most recent version... |
| 17:37.14 | coppice | at least the tor2 driver for the Govarian cards monitors errors properly. the drivers for the newers cards don't |
| 17:37.18 | unixgeek | zoa: it is just for internal use right now. |
| 17:37.24 | stoffell | for bri your always a few versions behind... |
| 17:37.44 | zoa | if its for testing, i would personally risk it i think |
| 17:37.59 | zoa | depends on the money you got |
| 17:38.15 | zoa | or you could go for a single port newer card |
| 17:38.22 | zoa | and pay double the price |
| 17:38.29 | zoa | dunno exactly how much those are |
| 17:38.31 | zoa | the single ports |
| 17:38.37 | SpaceBass | anyone know a place that has the linksys wip300 or 330 in stock? |
| 17:38.54 | brodiem | anyone know of an adapter to take a T1 and converto to PSTN? Basically a channel bank but a smaller/cheaper version that acts as an adpater |
| 17:38.54 | unixgeek | I guess part of the question I have is that I don't want to go get the v400p and then be killing myself trying to make it work. |
| 17:38.57 | coppice | get the govarian card, and have proper error monitoring :-) |
| 17:41.32 | zoa | i think the old cards are still good supported |
| 17:42.34 | coppice | yeah, but the new ones aren't :-) |
| 17:43.37 | zoa | i dont have problems with the new ones, what are the problems you have coppice ? |
| 17:43.45 | dlynes | are the new zaptel 1.2.x drivers completely broken? |
| 17:44.01 | coppice | digium won't put the missing error monitoring code in the drivers |
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| 17:44.44 | dlynes | Ever since I've upgraded to asterisk 1.2/zaptel 1.2, i've been getting a hanging server once in a while |
| 17:44.46 | zoa | they dont want to or they forgot it somehow ? |
| 17:45.12 | dlynes | and that part about the old cards are still good supported is bs...i'm running an old card |
| 17:45.28 | zoa | aha didnt know that |
| 17:45.30 | coppice | i put it in the bug tracker, and they turfed it out after a short period of nothing happening. |
| 17:45.34 | zoa | i no longer have any of those cards |
| 17:45.45 | zoa | do you have a bug id for that ? |
| 17:46.20 | dlynes | 01:03.0 Communication controller: Xilinx Corporation: Unknown device 0314 (rev 01) |
| 17:46.20 | dlynes | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:46.20 | dlynes | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:46.24 | dlynes | nope |
| 17:46.28 | coppice | the old cards work just fine. they do get updates too. i submitted updates to make them work properly on 64 bit machines, and those went into CVS the same day |
| 17:46.42 | coppice | the old cards just take a lot more CPU power |
| 17:46.46 | opc0de | hey can anyone tell me the best filesystem to use with asterisk? |
| 17:46.57 | salviadud | reiserfs |
| 17:46.57 | dlynes | coppice, like 20% of the cpu under freebsd |
| 17:46.59 | Qwell[] | opc0de: doesn't matter |
| 17:47.05 | zoa | what is your nick on mantis coppice ? |
| 17:47.13 | salviadud | well, i use reiserfs |
| 17:47.17 | coppice | steveu |
| 17:47.18 | *** part/#asterisk kotrin (n=chatzill@c-24-21-123-8.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 17:47.21 | opc0de | Qwell[]: why doesn't it matter/ |
| 17:47.22 | salviadud | ext3 works fine too |
| 17:47.27 | opc0de | I'm using ext3 right now |
| 17:47.38 | opc0de | I was thinking of switching to xfs, but I've heard xfs isn't good for many small files |
| 17:47.46 | coppice | digium are really bad for creating support issues |
| 17:47.47 | dlynes | it's gotta be a buggy zaptel 1.2 or buggy asterisk 1.2...the card worked fine running zaptel 1.0 and asterisk 1.0 |
| 17:47.56 | justinu | coppice: it's a feature!! |
| 17:48.11 | coppice | i think it probably is |
| 17:48.37 | zoa | hmm i cant find it coppice |
| 17:48.41 | zoa | i filtered on your name |
| 17:48.45 | *** join/#asterisk sp00k (n=sp00k@AMarseille-153-1-81-194.w86-209.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 17:48.54 | coppice | its been thrown out now |
| 17:49.03 | opc0de | I'm looking at http://spamaps.org/raidtests.php and the results for xfs are pretty good.. |
| 17:49.08 | *** part/#asterisk sp00k (n=sp00k@AMarseille-153-1-81-194.w86-209.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 17:49.13 | zoa | http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=2073 |
| 17:49.18 | zoa | is this the one you mean ? |
| 17:49.39 | coppice | nope. that's an old one that was dealt with properly |
| 17:49.48 | zoa | cant find yours |
| 17:50.16 | coppice | of course not. it was thrown out |
| 17:50.26 | justinu | lol |
| 17:50.42 | wasim | like totally gone? |
| 17:50.43 | justinu | why? |
| 17:51.27 | znoG | anyone use or have used iaxmodem? |
| 17:51.27 | zoa | maybe it was a mistake ? |
| 17:53.09 | coppice | nope. i reopened it and complained. it was closed again with a brain damaged excuse and removed completely. usual bugs.digium.com behaviour |
| 17:53.21 | justinu | markster doesn't like you |
| 17:58.11 | dlynes | just freaking beautiful...the old zaptel 1.0 code doesn't seem to work with kernel 2.6 |
| 17:58.15 | *** join/#asterisk Assid (n=assid@203.115.64.8) |
| 17:58.16 | Assid | heya |
| 17:58.34 | Assid | umm.. is there something i can do for a box which starts lagging if it sits around and does nothing |
| 17:58.55 | Harm|w | slap it around a few times |
| 17:58.57 | stoffell | Assid, run top :) |
| 17:58.58 | Harm|w | pour a drink in it |
| 17:59.09 | Assid | its weird |
| 17:59.22 | stoffell | Harm|w, preferably Guinness, had good experience with that... |
| 17:59.23 | stoffell | lol |
| 17:59.28 | *** join/#asterisk Ansonmus (n=ahaeser@dsl97-13-100.fastxdsl.nl) |
| 17:59.31 | Assid | i leave it alone... and no real processes on it.. and it goes slower |
| 17:59.53 | stoffell | Assid, run 'top' on the box to see if some software is running |
| 18:00.02 | Ansonmus | Hello, anyone here who gets BRI working in the Netherlands or other country where using euroisdn ? |
| 18:00.12 | Assid | okay .. this is weird: Mar 30 23:30:42 box1 kernel: rtc: lost some interrupts at 1024Hz. |
| 18:00.12 | stoffell | Ansonmus, it works |
| 18:00.15 | zoa | yes, and its not fun :) |
| 18:00.22 | zoa | it takes a lot of time |
| 18:00.23 | Assid | i dont get why i keep getting those RTC issues |
| 18:00.24 | zoa | and trying |
| 18:00.30 | stoffell | zoa, to get BRI working? hm |
| 18:00.49 | *** join/#asterisk Vitux (n=LNX@cable-63-135-21-193.sudbury.dyn.personainc.net) |
| 18:00.56 | zoa | ive had a lot of troubles with getting everything to work ok and stable |
| 18:01.03 | Ansonmus | stoffell / zoa: we have a problem. We can call out using a cheap isdn modem. But our disconnect at A-leg side will not disconnect the B-leg side |
| 18:01.31 | zoa | quite happy with misdn now though |
| 18:01.46 | *** join/#asterisk Hmmhesays (i=Blorp@66.173.103.100) |
| 18:02.00 | stoffell | zoa, ah, nice.. i've also been playing with it.. the advantagea is, you can upgrade easily to 'current' * :) |
| 18:02.05 | Ansonmus | can you call internation numbers? |
| 18:02.16 | Ansonmus | that is another problem we encounters |
| 18:02.44 | stoffell | Ansonmus, hm, can you explain a bit more the problem? (international numbers work fine here) and are you using bristuff/mISDN or visdn? |
| 18:02.44 | zoa | international ? yes |
| 18:03.20 | Ansonmus | brisuff |
| 18:03.32 | stoffell | Ansonmus, what version? |
| 18:04.35 | stoffell | zoa, you have got good reference for misdn? or you use beronet's installation? |
| 18:04.40 | Ansonmus | ouch don't know.. we are using a@h 2.7. How to find out the version number of bristuff? |
| 18:05.18 | stoffell | Ansonmus, normally is you connect to the cli (asterisk -r) it shows the version number |
| 18:06.57 | *** join/#asterisk |omni| (i=rob@216.64.178.146) |
| 18:07.20 | *** join/#asterisk RoyK (n=roy@ti211210a080-1437.bb.online.no) |
| 18:07.46 | zoa | http://www.asteriskguru.com/tutorials/chan_misdn.html |
| 18:07.50 | zoa | is what we wrote about it |
| 18:07.58 | zoa | dunno if its still up to date |
| 18:08.40 | stoffell | okay, thanks, will look into it |
| 18:08.54 | stoffell | zoa, no echo problems with chan_misdn? |
| 18:09.40 | zoa | nopez |
| 18:09.46 | stoffell | cool |
| 18:09.57 | zoa | i use the quad and octo bri cards |
| 18:10.16 | Ansonmus | hmm... machine seems dead now is at my work |
| 18:10.28 | Ansonmus | but asterisk version is 2.4 |
| 18:10.42 | wasim | 2.4? |
| 18:10.46 | coppice | the BRI cards will have as much or as little echo as the PRI cards with no hardware echo canceller |
| 18:11.03 | stoffell | 1.2.4 he means |
| 18:11.22 | Ansonmus | yes. 1.2.4 |
| 18:11.24 | stoffell | coppice, tnx, so with a good phone it should be near 0 ... :) |
| 18:11.30 | wasim | right ... i thought i'd become rip wan winkle for a sec |
| 18:11.43 | *** join/#asterisk _Paulo_ (n=Paulo@200-168-112-132.dsl.telesp.net.br) |
| 18:11.44 | stoffell | hehe |
| 18:12.22 | coppice | stoffell: if you can arrange to only ever call the highest quality phones, I guess :-\ |
| 18:13.56 | cybergypsy | is there a way to detect if all SIP and IAX lines are busy or not ? |
| 18:14.01 | Ansonmus | when we connect using the S0 bus of our pstn thelephone centrale, it works fine |
| 18:14.01 | stoffell | yes coppice, i was referring to 'local' echo, calling mobiles and low-quality phones is another thing.. bad for sure :) |
| 18:14.25 | coppice | calling mobiles should be clean |
| 18:14.50 | Ansonmus | but when we connect directly to the NT1 then we have this problem. When connecting to the NT1 we have to set the numberplan to national in zapata.conf |
| 18:14.52 | stoffell | unless using a blackberry ... echo-guaranteed |
| 18:15.07 | iGotNoTime | Is it possible yet to add Lycos & Yahoo phone accounts to Asterisk yet? Has anyone seen any links for it? |
| 18:15.25 | stoffell | people with blackberry tend to turn the volume up to the max, resulting in echo to caller |
| 18:15.26 | Qwell[] | iGotNoTime: Are they SIP? |
| 18:15.38 | stoffell | Ansonmus, paste your zapata.conf on pastebin |
| 18:15.47 | iGotNoTime | ya Qwell[] |
| 18:15.53 | Qwell[] | Then sure, it should work fine |
| 18:16.09 | iGotNoTime | but they hide the account info such as the proxy and SIP number inside the software |
| 18:16.21 | Katty | hi |
| 18:16.32 | iGotNoTime | Qwell, at least that's how it appears :) |
| 18:16.38 | Qwell[] | Katty: hihi |
| 18:16.40 | iGotNoTime | hi Katty |
| 18:17.42 | Ansonmus | stoffell: ok I'll do that when I can get that file from the machine! |
| 18:17.49 | file | eh? |
| 18:18.01 | stoffell | loool |
| 18:18.04 | Qwell[] | file: It's aboot time you show up! |
| 18:18.11 | file | what did I miss?!? |
| 18:18.28 | Ansonmus | your shot |
| 18:18.30 | stoffell | he was about to get you from the machine... |
| 18:18.33 | file | eep |
| 18:19.05 | Ansonmus | ohw.. Qwell says show and not shoot :) |
| 18:19.13 | dlynes | Has anyone been able to get zaptel 1.0.9.2 to compile against a 2.6 kernel? |
| 18:19.42 | Qwell[] | dlynes: upgrade |
| 18:19.47 | *** join/#asterisk mrtwister|mobile (n=andrius@cable-10-68.cgates.lt) |
| 18:21.13 | dlynes | Qwell, upgrading's caused me numerous hangs |
| 18:21.18 | brodiem | is there a small sip proxy that supports T38 that could run along with * for sending faxes to? |
| 18:21.22 | dlynes | Qwell, that's why i'm going back to 1.0 |
| 18:21.31 | dlynes | Qwell, at least it was stable |
| 18:22.19 | stoffell | dlynes, what 2.6 kernel? |
| 18:22.26 | dlynes | 2.6.15.5 |
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| 18:22.44 | dlynes | stoffell, but it was doing exactly the same hanging 'feature' on freebsd 6.0, too |
| 18:22.49 | brodiem | dlynes, should be no reason you couldn't compile the latest zaptel on that kernel |
| 18:23.06 | dlynes | brodiem, i don't want the latest zaptel...it's hanging asterisk periodically |
| 18:23.27 | dlynes | brodiem, when i was running asterisk 1.0/zaptel 1.0, everything was stable |
| 18:24.05 | brodiem | dlynes, what zap device are you using? |
| 18:24.49 | dlynes | 01:03.0 Communication controller: Xilinx Corporation: Unknown device 0314 (rev 01) |
| 18:24.50 | dlynes | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:24.50 | dlynes | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:24.57 | dlynes | It's a quad pri card |
| 18:25.05 | *** join/#asterisk [ProB]CrazyMan (n=crazyman@p549F1AC3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 18:25.07 | dlynes | Probably first generation |
| 18:25.23 | Ansonmus | stoffell: I've pasted a part of our log.. at line 12 the A-leg is diconnected but B-leg stay connected. After line 12 whe have dropped the B-leg by hand |
| 18:25.42 | *** join/#asterisk rnovotny22 (n=bob@198.57.19.126) |
| 18:26.20 | stoffell | okay Ansonmus, where? |
| 18:26.34 | Ansonmus | sorry :) http://pastebin.ca/47708 |
| 18:26.50 | bkw_ | Katty, dear |
| 18:26.59 | bkw_ | Katty, I have info... oh katty |
| 18:27.51 | coppice | dlynes: that isn't first generation |
| 18:28.01 | *** join/#asterisk djMax (n=chatzill@artsalliancelabs.com) |
| 18:28.18 | stoffell | Ansonmus, so dialing 'out' your zap channel works, you then hangup, but the other party keeps ringing, is that the problem? |
| 18:28.24 | [ProB]CrazyMan | hello, I tried to set an different mailprogram in voicemail.conf, but i am not able to pass the variables to that program, anybody tried sth like this before ? |
| 18:28.36 | dlynes | coppice, then what is? |
| 18:28.41 | dlynes | coppice, erm what is it then? |
| 18:29.16 | Ansonmus | yes, but not only that. When the other party has answered and we hang up. The connection from asterisk to that other pary stay connected |
| 18:29.24 | coppice | the first generation cards don't have xilink chips, or bus master |
| 18:29.35 | stoffell | Ansonmus, also 'show channels' shows the zap still connected? |
| 18:29.40 | dlynes | coppice, ah...well, whatever it is, it's still pretty old |
| 18:29.55 | dlynes | coppice, it's about 3 or 4 years old |
| 18:30.03 | riksta | hm in the phrase "kitted out to the hilt" what the hell is hilt? |
| 18:30.15 | djMax | anybody had luck remapping Polycom phone buttons to other functions? |
| 18:30.17 | dlynes | riksta, max |
| 18:30.25 | riksta | yeah i know that, but what is hilt? :) |
| 18:30.32 | Qwell[] | riksta: a hilt is the (often fancy) handle of a sword |
| 18:30.40 | Qwell[] | often quite decorated |
| 18:30.47 | riksta | oh, cool! |
| 18:30.58 | coppice | riksta the handle of the sword :-\ |
| 18:31.07 | riksta | thanks |
| 18:31.23 | Ansonmus | stoffell: I think that but cannot say it for the fully 100%.. maybe it is better that I talk to you (and the others) when the machine is up and running |
| 18:31.23 | Qwell[] | djMax: No, but if you had a cisco with skinny... |
| 18:31.54 | stoffell | Ansonmus, okay, but it should work fine.. |
| 18:33.27 | Hmmhesays | i don't mind spending every day, out on your corner in the pouring rain |
| 18:35.20 | djMax | if you were building a phone sys purely for IVR, would you still go *, or something like sipX or MSSpeech server? |
| 18:38.20 | Hmmhesays | probably asterisk, i hate sipX config |
| 18:39.18 | djMax | Not that ours is a thing of beauty. |
| 18:39.20 | salviadud | yeah, asterisk is the shiznits |
| 18:39.50 | Hmmhesays | its something alright |
| 18:39.53 | salviadud | i prank call the mexican embassy in japan, what do i use? asterisk, the pbx for champions |
| 18:40.17 | djMax | yeah, it's great for phone jamming, that's for sure. :) |
| 18:40.27 | Hmmhesays | you still owe me some hot mexican women salviadud |
| 18:41.04 | salviadud | we could arrange something of course... |
| 18:41.09 | *** join/#asterisk pigpen2 (n=mark@207.71.48.222) |
| 18:41.20 | Hmmhesays | splendid |
| 18:41.43 | salviadud | next time you come by |
| 18:41.48 | salviadud | give me a call |
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| 18:46.46 | starlein | damn |
| 18:46.58 | starlein | the asterisk processes crashed after 110days uptime |
| 18:47.15 | starlein | what a shame |
| 18:47.25 | salviadud | what distro was it on? |
| 18:47.36 | mut | i dunno if or when mine ever crashes |
| 18:47.55 | mut | i run it with daemontools |
| 18:48.00 | starlein | it's running inside a vserver, distro debian sarge |
| 18:48.30 | eric_hill | mut: djb's or daemon-tools.cc? |
| 18:48.40 | mut | djb's heh |
| 18:48.53 | eric_hill | :) |
| 18:49.12 | xming | anyone here know avm 5144 or 5188? They announced them on Cebit, it's a 2 or 4 S0 ports to SIP devices |
| 18:49.32 | xming | I cannot find anyone selling these |
| 18:50.50 | starlein | xming, release date is summer 06 |
| 18:51.14 | xming | starlein: I thought I read somewhere Q1, do you have more info? URL> |
| 18:51.15 | starlein | thats reason why you dont find any seller |
| 18:51.37 | starlein | dont know where i read it |
| 18:51.43 | brodiem | starlein, do you run multiple instances of asterisk in VEs? |
| 18:51.49 | Hmmhesays | http://dwb.newsobserver.com/news/ncwire_news/story/2921630p-9369524c.html |
| 18:51.50 | starlein | but i know the date because i also was interested |
| 18:51.54 | Hmmhesays | holy freaky batman |
| 18:52.10 | starlein | broodiem, yes |
| 18:52.36 | brodiem | starlein, how many VEs will run for you reliably? |
| 18:53.05 | starlein | i think it depends on the hardware of the host |
| 18:53.37 | brodiem | starlein, yeah - just curious how many you're running simultaneously on the your hardware |
| 18:53.40 | brodiem | as a reference |
| 18:53.48 | starlein | if you disable unwanted modules, you can keep the memory amount small |
| 18:54.10 | xming | starlein: I am trying everything to get more info out of them, just called avm today but they wouldn't (don't know) anything, but they gave me a name+no of someone who (might have) the answers |
| 18:54.14 | starlein | on amd xp 2000+ with 1gb ram there are running 3 asterisk's without problem |
| 18:54.56 | xming | my * is only uising 17MB here |
| 18:55.17 | brodiem | starlein, any issues getting zaptel/ztdummy compiled to share with the VEs? |
| 18:55.42 | starlein | i got VSZ size of approx 500mb every VE including an asterisk + mysqld |
| 18:56.06 | xming | VEs? |
| 18:56.13 | zoa | im bored |
| 18:56.14 | brodiem | xming, VE = virtual environment |
| 18:56.19 | zoa | somebody entertain me please |
| 18:56.44 | coppice | you seem to be :-) |
| 18:56.46 | zoa | i dont get this, some lamb is born in belgium with 6 feet and is healthy |
| 18:56.48 | xming | brodiem: what kind? vmware, xen, qemu, UML, virtuosso? |
| 18:56.51 | zoa | 6 legs |
| 18:56.59 | zoa | and after some weeks they amputate 2 of the legs |
| 18:56.59 | starlein | xming, linux-vserver |
| 18:56.59 | brodiem | xming, we were talking about vserver |
| 18:57.01 | zoa | i dont get why |
| 18:57.10 | zoa | i'd love to have a lamb with 6 legs |
| 18:57.12 | zoa | must be fun |
| 18:57.13 | xming | thanks |
| 18:57.13 | Hmmhesays | yeha that was on fark a week ago |
| 18:57.18 | Hmmhesays | but it can't walk |
| 18:57.25 | Hmmhesays | so they are going to remove 2 of them |
| 18:57.36 | Hmmhesays | or did |
| 18:57.37 | xming | I did some testing with xen DomU + * |
| 18:57.46 | zoa | they did already |
| 18:57.46 | Hmmhesays | wow i should scroll up before I type things out |
| 18:57.52 | *** join/#asterisk MattH (n=MattH@63.174.244.195) |
| 18:57.55 | starlein | zoa, get some beer |
| 18:57.56 | zoa | yeah |
| 18:58.04 | zoa | i need to take an elevator to buy beer |
| 18:58.04 | brodiem | zoa, you could visit http://zombo.com |
| 18:58.05 | xming | zoa: 2 free lamb's legs for dinner |
| 18:58.06 | zoa | im lazy |
| 18:58.08 | Damin | zoa: Hey there.. |
| 18:58.10 | starlein | think it's good idea on friday evening |
| 18:58.14 | starlein | hehe |
| 18:58.15 | Hmmhesays | you can do anything at zombo.com |
| 18:58.20 | zoa | damin i already replied to you in private |
| 18:58.24 | zoa | you silly bot |
| 18:58.25 | zoa | boy |
| 18:58.34 | Damin | zoa: Really? I didn't get a reply.. :) |
| 18:58.37 | brodiem | i'm trying to decide between using virtuozzo/openvz and v-server |
| 18:58.45 | zoa | wtf is zombo |
| 18:58.50 | Hmmhesays | www.zombo.com |
| 18:58.54 | MattH | PROBLEM: When I call out... or go between extensions MOH sounds fine... when I have an inbound call come into my over our inbound SIP trunk any more then 1 call on hold has bad MOH quality. Running asterisk 1.2.5 mpeg123 that comes with 'make mpg123' in asterisk. Processor usage is nill with multiple calls. Asterisk uses about 2% of CPU. |
| 18:58.59 | Hmmhesays | you can do anything your heart desires there |
| 18:59.18 | starlein | MattH, you tried mpg123-oss ? |
| 18:59.30 | starlein | that one is working good at myself |
| 18:59.40 | jbalcomb | Is there an IRC channel for network admins? |
| 18:59.59 | zoa | omg |
| 19:00.02 | MattH | starlein: I'm not sure what that is.. All I have tried is mpeg123 that comes 'with' asterisk what is mpg123-oss? |
| 19:00.21 | starlein | what distro you using? |
| 19:00.23 | starlein | debian? |
| 19:00.38 | MattH | fedora |
| 19:02.06 | MattH | I guess I'm a little confused... why would the audio only sound bad when doing more then 1 call over our trunks? |
| 19:02.10 | starlein | i got problems at debian with mpg123 package. the mpg123-oss solved it. |
| 19:02.20 | MattH | interesting.. same garbled issue? |
| 19:02.24 | dlynes | jbalcomb, depends on what operating system you're using |
| 19:02.44 | starlein | yes, sound was absolutly choppy from moh |
| 19:02.50 | jbalcomb | dlynes I'm using Dell, 3Com, and Cisco |
| 19:02.54 | MattH | yeah it's like I can hear the music but it's totally warbled on top of it |
| 19:03.04 | dlynes | jbalcomb, have you tried #cisco? |
| 19:03.07 | brodiem | slack w/ mpg123 0.59r no problems here |
| 19:03.25 | dlynes | jbalcomb, I would imagine that channel probably exists...dunno about 3com or dell though...they may or may not exist |
| 19:03.27 | jbalcomb | dlynes yeah, was looking for something more general |
| 19:03.45 | dlynes | jbalcomb, try doing a /list *admin*, or /list *net* |
| 19:04.00 | jbalcomb | dlynes something geared towards general traffic, ethernet, VLANs, QoS, etc |
| 19:04.20 | starlein | matth, you using 8khz mono mp3 files? |
| 19:04.24 | jbalcomb | dlynes ah, ok, i didn't know about that. doing so now, thanks. |
| 19:04.34 | MattH | I'm using the standard stock files |
| 19:04.39 | starlein | hm ok |
| 19:04.45 | *** join/#asterisk ebag (n=gabe@adsl-69-239-166-49.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net) |
| 19:04.54 | MattH | this is interesting! |
| 19:05.09 | MattH | right now I have 3 OUTBOUND calls going out over my terminator and the hold sounds fine |
| 19:05.13 | MattH | so it seems to be an issue with the inbound |
| 19:05.21 | MattH | it's going: SIP-->asterisk1-->IAX-->asterisk2 |
| 19:05.50 | MattH | otherway it's going asterisk2->IAX->asterisk1->IAX |
| 19:06.07 | starlein | if it works in one direction, it's no problem of mpg123 |
| 19:06.11 | MattH | right... |
| 19:06.11 | salviadud | at the end, don't you mean Sip? |
| 19:06.14 | MattH | that's what I just figured out |
| 19:06.32 | MattH | salviadud, sorry, rephase question please |
| 19:06.44 | salviadud | asterisk2->IAX->asterisk1->IAX |
| 19:06.47 | salviadud | the last one |
| 19:06.51 | salviadud | should be sip? |
| 19:06.54 | MattH | no |
| 19:06.57 | MattH | I'll redraw |
| 19:07.18 | *** join/#asterisk jeffgus (n=jeffgus@greengables.zimage.com) |
| 19:07.20 | MattH | BAD MOH IF MORE THEN 1: sip(originator)-->asterisk1--->IAX-->asterisk2 --> then to a sip phone (but not when on hold) |
| 19:07.41 | MattH | WORKS FINE: sipphone(but not when on hold) -> asterisk2->IAX->asterisk1->IAX->terminator |
| 19:07.43 | Damin | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:07.50 | Damin | Er..uhh.. sorry.. |
| 19:07.52 | starlein | lol |
| 19:07.55 | MattH | hehe |
| 19:07.57 | starlein | nice sql statement |
| 19:08.25 | MattH | I'm baffled... more then one call to my provider is fine.. so it shouldn't be a transcode issue |
| 19:08.29 | MattH | it's only when there is MOH.. hrmm |
| 19:08.52 | salviadud | yeah, that's odd |
| 19:08.57 | salviadud | what version of asterisk? |
| 19:09.14 | MattH | 1.2.5 on this one 1.2.0 on the second one (on my end) |
| 19:09.41 | salviadud | should work anyway |
| 19:10.19 | MattH | yeah and it's clearly ok between my two servers.. and even out to my terminator... |
| 19:10.34 | MattH | the issue must lie somehow between my originator and me... odd |
| 19:10.44 | MattH | but like I said I have no issues with voice. |
| 19:10.45 | Hmmhesays | salviadud: you made me think of an inappropriate mexican joke |
| 19:10.54 | salviadud | please share |
| 19:10.58 | MattH | lol |
| 19:11.20 | tzanger | yes please share |
| 19:11.35 | Hmmhesays | Q: what did the little mexican kid get for christmas A: My Bike! |
| 19:11.51 | Sedorox | ahahah |
| 19:11.58 | salviadud | you sayin' we stealin! you crazy vato |
| 19:12.02 | Damin | Uuhh.. |
| 19:12.12 | dlynes | what's vato? |
| 19:12.12 | Damin | One of the Analog SBC lines just fell off the wall.. |
| 19:12.16 | [av]bani | \o/ |
| 19:12.17 | Damin | It's hanging by a wire.. :) |
| 19:12.18 | MattH | yikes! |
| 19:12.22 | Hmmhesays | salviadud LOL |
| 19:12.32 | salviadud | vato is dude, in spanish |
| 19:12.36 | dlynes | ah |
| 19:12.53 | Mauro__ | vato is mexican slang |
| 19:12.55 | dlynes | don't know much spanish...mostly just french, english and mandarin |
| 19:13.00 | salviadud | pronounced Bah-tow |
| 19:13.21 | salviadud | je peux ecrit francais |
| 19:13.29 | dlynes | laugh |
| 19:13.47 | zoa | toi tu il passe compose |
| 19:14.10 | Mauro__ | me engrish dog window door |
| 19:14.37 | *** part/#asterisk rnovotny22 (n=bob@198.57.19.126) |
| 19:14.43 | _Paulo_ | salviadud, what is the meaning of "carnal" slang? |
| 19:14.49 | tzanger | Hmmhesays: heh |
| 19:14.53 | salviadud | brother |
| 19:15.17 | salviadud | carnal is brother, or friend |
| 19:15.33 | salviadud | paulo, good to see you again |
| 19:15.33 | Mauro__ | that one remebers me San Andreas |
| 19:15.41 | salviadud | could you set up FWD? |
| 19:15.46 | Hmmhesays | What do a priest and a christmas tree have in common? |
| 19:16.09 | Hmmhesays | their balls are both for decoration |
| 19:16.14 | *** join/#asterisk justinu|laptop (n=Justin@dsl081-083-093.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 19:16.19 | _Paulo_ | salviadud, I got that number, but didnt put it on *. |
| 19:16.31 | salviadud | you lazy bastard |
| 19:16.40 | coppice | since santa only comes once a year, his aren't much different |
| 19:16.45 | salviadud | well, we could set up IAX |
| 19:16.48 | Hmmhesays | LOL |
| 19:16.50 | salviadud | and talk directly |
| 19:17.21 | _Paulo_ | salviadud, yepz. |
| 19:17.54 | _Paulo_ | salviadud, wanna make free calls to brazil? |
| 19:17.57 | _Paulo_ | :-) |
| 19:18.10 | salviadud | don't worry i got voipbuster |
| 19:18.11 | salviadud | in fact |
| 19:18.25 | salviadud | if you could tell me your regular phone number |
| 19:18.29 | salviadud | i could call you |
| 19:18.42 | _Paulo_ | 55 11 33485018 |
| 19:18.50 | justinu|laptop | w00t! |
| 19:19.14 | salviadud | ah dammit |
| 19:19.21 | salviadud | i thought brazil was on my list |
| 19:19.26 | salviadud | nope, we gotta use iax |
| 19:19.38 | salviadud | sorry paulo, hhe |
| 19:19.49 | _Paulo_ | my * server is 200.196.235.17 |
| 19:20.17 | salviadud | allright |
| 19:20.19 | salviadud | in iax.conf |
| 19:20.22 | *** join/#asterisk smk (n=scott@cobra.httpd.org) |
| 19:20.51 | smk | greetings |
| 19:20.56 | salviadud | you would need to add me |
| 19:21.23 | smk | i'm having a weird problem with voicemail, but it only seems to occur when i dial in from an external line |
| 19:21.36 | smk | Mar 31 14:14:41 WARNING[20921]: app.c:645 ast_play_and_record: No audio available on IAX2/jnctn_out-3?? |
| 19:22.15 | x86 | _Paulo_: can i call you too? i want to test out my international calling :) |
| 19:22.48 | smk | it gets to the voicemail, plays the unavailable message, acts like it's recording but then it pretty much drops the call. i'm a bit confused as to why this is happening or how to fix it, haven't found much googling |
| 19:23.16 | _Paulo_ | ok. |
| 19:23.23 | _Paulo_ | x86, sure |
| 19:24.02 | shido6 | : using mysql how do you tally up the amount of minutes you've done in a month? |
| 19:24.39 | alephcom | Total number of minutes or per device or account? |
| 19:25.22 | x86 | _Paulo_: my carrier is declining the call... |
| 19:25.30 | x86 | _Paulo_: do you live in an expensive rate center? |
| 19:25.40 | coppice | most carriers are in decline. |
| 19:25.45 | x86 | _Paulo_: also, you should sign up for e164.org, so i can call you for free ;) |
| 19:25.50 | [av]bani | smk: try sip |
| 19:26.03 | inv_arp[work] | p |
| 19:26.05 | coppice | that's why they keep hyping useless junk like setup IPTV boxes |
| 19:26.05 | _Paulo_ | hum... |
| 19:26.14 | shido6 | for an entire row of calls, alephcom |
| 19:26.28 | shido6 | column, rather |
| 19:28.45 | alephcom | SELECT SUM(billduration) FROM cdrs WHERE date REGEXP "^2006-01.*" |
| 19:28.47 | hwt | i'm running asterisk on debian off a CF-card. i have /var/log, /var/run, /tmp on tmpfs, and no swap.. are there other places i should mount as tmpfs? |
| 19:30.50 | _Paulo_ | x86, calls are very expensive in Brazil. |
| 19:30.51 | stoffell | hwt, i'm outta here, but check : http://www.dsslive.org |
| 19:31.58 | SpaceBass | can someone please explain e164...I still don' get that concept |
| 19:32.19 | Qwell[] | SpaceBass: You query them with a phone number, and it tells you other methods of calling them |
| 19:32.27 | Qwell[] | ie; SIP |
| 19:32.31 | SpaceBass | ahhh |
| 19:33.33 | SpaceBass | you register your "real" number and then list the alternate methods? |
| 19:34.05 | Qwell[] | pretty much |
| 19:34.41 | *** join/#asterisk phpmattk_ (n=phpmattk@ip-216-7-118-114.fireserve.net) |
| 19:35.00 | *** join/#asterisk eset (n=eset@ip545186e3.direct-adsl.nl) |
| 19:35.20 | [av]bani | Qwell[]: GIVE ME SCCCCCCCPPPPPPPPPP |
| 19:35.39 | Qwell[] | [av]bani: tomorrow |
| 19:36.05 | eset | hey, are there any conferencing apps i can use (for SIP only) taht dont need a zaptel interface installe? |
| 19:36.26 | Qwell[] | eset: You can use ztdummy with app_meetme |
| 19:36.31 | eset | ah, cool |
| 19:36.43 | SpaceBass | so I finally updated my A@H box (I know, I know) and faxing still doesnt work for me...I get blank pages |
| 19:36.46 | eset | Qwell : so i comile ztdummy first? |
| 19:36.53 | Qwell[] | eset: zaptel |
| 19:36.57 | Qwell[] | then modprobe ztdummy |
| 19:36.58 | Nugget | http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/50539 <-- heh |
| 19:37.09 | hwt | you don't need ztdummy anymore, do you? on 2.6? |
| 19:37.20 | hwt | ..for timing. |
| 19:37.32 | *** join/#asterisk |dennis| (i=dennis@200.32.215.84) |
| 19:38.29 | asterboy | Just donated $61 to DamnSmallLinux for a job well done. |
| 19:38.44 | asterboy | They just release v2.3 |
| 19:38.47 | eset | its a good distro |
| 19:38.47 | asterboy | http://digg.com/linux_unix/Damn_Small_Linux_2.3_has_been_released.#c1356374 |
| 19:38.59 | asterboy | I have it running on a P100 |
| 19:39.38 | asterboy | Can't believe how well it works and how clean and mean the setup is. |
| 19:40.02 | asterboy | i'd like to get * working on it :) |
| 19:40.25 | Qwell[] | hwt: yes, of course |
| 19:40.52 | tainted_ | asterboy what are u using it for? |
| 19:41.09 | tainted_ | anyone load balanced an asterisk farm? |
| 19:41.29 | tainted_ | or put ser in front of one |
| 19:41.54 | coppice | asterisk farm? are you trying to grow a subscriber base? :-\ |
| 19:42.05 | tainted_ | yea |
| 19:42.19 | tainted_ | actually the subscriber base is there, just worried about redudancy and load |
| 19:42.50 | *** join/#asterisk ToTo (n=ToTo@host194-201.pool872.interbusiness.it) |
| 19:43.09 | asterboy | tainted_, a client of mine wanted to do something with his old P100MHz box he paid $3000 for back in the day. |
| 19:43.16 | asterboy | Didn't want to chuck it in the bin. |
| 19:43.29 | asterboy | So I threw in 64Mb RAM and boom. |
| 19:43.30 | tainted_ | that's hilarious |
| 19:43.33 | hwt | Qwell[]: yes, like "you still need it", or the other way around. |
| 19:43.36 | asterboy | It works fantastic. |
| 19:43.54 | asterboy | I'm listening to Green Day on it and surfing the net. |
| 19:44.40 | asterboy | What is hilarious is the 4Mb stick of RAM I pulled with a price tag still on it. |
| 19:44.50 | asterboy | $249.95 |
| 19:44.58 | asterboy | Wonder what I could get for that now? |
| 19:45.48 | coppice | I remember paying about $200K for 192M of RAM 20 years ago |
| 19:45.49 | tainted_ | 4Mb of RDOSDIMM-2 CAS-5 RAM |
| 19:46.30 | [TK]D-Fender | coppice : 192 meg ram 20 years ago? those were in the days of "640k ought to be enough for anybody!".... |
| 19:46.38 | asterboy | SIMM 4Mb 72 pin, 1 x 32 |
| 19:46.42 | coppice | and that was just after a huge collapse in prices |
| 19:47.03 | [TK]D-Fender | I remember about 12 years ago when 8 meg cost $200US |
| 19:47.05 | coppice | 640k wasn't enough for me :-) |
| 19:47.09 | asterboy | now they have a 64Gb USB stick for sale for $5000 |
| 19:47.20 | asterboy | wait 5 years and pick it up for $20 |
| 19:47.47 | asterboy | we are so past technilogical singularity. |
| 19:48.01 | coppice | actually the PC I used then had something like 4M, on a couple of boards densely stuffed with 256k bit DRAMs |
| 19:48.12 | asterboy | lol |
| 19:48.16 | coppice | that must have cost quite a bit |
| 19:48.19 | *** join/#asterisk Zodiacal (i=hehehe@bdsl.66.14.242.199.gte.net) |
| 19:49.56 | tainted_ | what were u doing with 192MB of ram 20years ago |
| 19:50.22 | tainted_ | that must've come handcuffed to a personal delivery agent |
| 19:50.28 | [TK]D-Fender | coppice : Gotta love the days of 8-bit expansion RAM cards for ETENDED vs EXPANDED memory :) Putting the "old" in old-school.... |
| 19:50.37 | tzanger | [TK]D-Fender: oh man |
| 19:50.54 | tzanger | I have an old DataTek 80386DX33 (double-sigma on the processor) |
| 19:50.55 | tainted_ | speaking of which.. dosbox is out again |
| 19:51.10 | tainted_ | tzanger lol |
| 19:51.15 | [av]bani | himem.sys |
| 19:51.23 | [TK]D-Fender | tzanger : I miss my old 4.77mhz XT :) |
| 19:51.27 | Sedorox | MSCDEX.EXE!!!!1111 |
| 19:51.28 | tainted_ | i still have a compuadd 286 lying around somewhere |
| 19:51.32 | tzanger | 8MB RAM total, then years (and I mean a decade at least) later I found a DataTek RAM expansion board and loaded it up with another 8M of SIMMs (the mobo took SIPPs) as well as a Weitek 387 copro |
| 19:51.41 | asterboy | My Timex Sinclair had a whoping 4k of memory! |
| 19:51.43 | tzanger | I've got an NEC V30 around here somewhere |
| 19:51.48 | coppice | its was 192M, as that's the most that could be stuffed into the large rack mount chassis that housed it |
| 19:51.50 | tainted_ | lol |
| 19:51.52 | tzanger | 19MHz 8086 clone :-) |
| 19:52.26 | tzanger | I can't imagine 192MB of oldschool RAM... man that must have weighed a TON |
| 19:52.33 | coppice | intel did a fantastic job in court wiping that NEC chip out |
| 19:53.07 | coppice | i remember a 256K core store the size of a car we had at college |
| 19:53.16 | tzanger | heh |
| 19:53.28 | tainted_ | coppice is old school |
| 19:53.32 | *** join/#asterisk salviadud (n=dude@dsl-201-129-86-188.prod-infinitum.com.mx) |
| 19:53.43 | tainted_ | did u ever work with punch cards? |
| 19:53.44 | tainted_ | lol |
| 19:53.53 | coppice | of course |
| 19:54.24 | tzanger | you gotta be kidding, I bet he spent 8 years as in intern punching holes in them one by one with his teeth... uphill in the snow... BOTH WAYS!! |
| 19:54.24 | phpmattk_ | mmm.. now thats a batch file |
| 19:54.25 | asterboy | punch cards, now that's going back |
| 19:54.40 | tainted_ | lol |
| 19:55.21 | asterboy | Interesting, I have a project I'm working on which in a sense goes back to punch card technology |
| 19:55.21 | dlynes | asterboy, it's not that long ago...i remember them still being used in one company up until about 1985 or so |
| 19:55.21 | coppice | tzanger: I have actually punched a couple of cards by hand |
| 19:55.30 | hwt | so, do you need ztdummy on 2.6? |
| 19:56.01 | asterboy | using Hylafax to scan in a document similar to a lotto ticket using RMO technology to generate output. |
| 19:56.30 | tzanger | hands... HEAVEN! I had to use a magnifying glass and sunlight, and if I got distracted I'd accidentally set my clothes on fire (they were ultra-flammable those days, you know, none of this flame retardant fanciness kids these days get)... |
| 19:56.43 | asterboy | There are still companies using punch cards to this day! |
| 19:56.57 | [TK]D-Fender | tzanger : Optical storage! |
| 19:57.03 | hwt | module rtc doesn't work on my box, so maybe i will need ztdummy then. |
| 19:57.07 | Strom_M | face down, nine edge first |
| 19:57.11 | dlynes | I just realized...some of the peeps on here probably were born around 1985, so it would seem like a long time ago to them |
| 19:57.25 | phpmattk_ | its like the 4 yorkshiremen in here |
| 19:57.26 | phpmattk_ | http://www.pvv.ntnu.no/~bct/mp/yorkshire.html |
| 19:57.41 | dlynes | asterboy, are you serious? |
| 19:58.29 | coppice | who'da thought we'd be sitting here today, with the telecoms industry in collapse, drink chateau to chasseney |
| 19:58.55 | phpmattk_ | heheh |
| 19:58.55 | asterboy | so I have been told...I'd have to see it to believe it. |
| 19:58.56 | tainted_ | phpmattk_ lol |
| 19:59.14 | asterboy | Wonder how many Mb this drive is? |
| 19:59.15 | asterboy | http://flickr.com/photos/regis-sp/19811379/ |
| 19:59.36 | coppice | there's almost certainly paper tape in use |
| 20:00.20 | tainted_ | "You were lucky to have a HOUSE! We used to live in one room, all hundred and twenty-six of us, no furniture. Half the floor was missing; we were all huddled together in one corner for fear of FALLING!" |
| 20:00.23 | phpmattk_ | hehe. i was trying to get paperdisk (anyone remember them) to run under wine the other day |
| 20:00.29 | *** part/#asterisk _andre (n=andre@fosforo.k8.com.br) |
| 20:01.05 | asterboy | I started my career on a Pet and then later a Vic 20 |
| 20:01.21 | asterboy | Anyone remeber silver bells for C64? |
| 20:01.22 | _Paulo_ | I read that Paul Allen forgot to record the loader for their basic |
| 20:01.28 | coppice | that's either a weird disk in that picture, or he's a midget |
| 20:01.39 | asterboy | It would tone generate for coins in a payphone. |
| 20:01.43 | _Paulo_ | when he was going to sell it for the altair makers |
| 20:01.44 | asterboy | great way to make calls. |
| 20:01.54 | *** join/#asterisk [hC] (n=hardcore@S01060004e21ea953.vc.shawcable.net) |
| 20:02.02 | tainted_ | asterboy wasn't that called a bluebox |
| 20:02.10 | asterboy | there were a few of them |
| 20:02.15 | asterboy | or blue bells |
| 20:02.21 | asterboy | something like that |
| 20:02.26 | *** join/#asterisk exonic (n=exonic@sig.triton.net) |
| 20:02.34 | asterboy | 1541 hard drive! |
| 20:02.45 | exonic | How freaking long does it take to get a project renamed on sourceforge. It's been over a week now. |
| 20:02.47 | *** join/#asterisk Wi_Fi (n=OUT@c-24-127-12-85.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 20:04.43 | [TK]D-Fender | asterboy : PET .... I loved mine.. in all its casette-driven glory. That was one of the first computers I worked with. BASIC magi-capet time! |
| 20:05.02 | asterboy | lol, the casette! |
| 20:05.08 | *** join/#asterisk a1fa (n=a1fa@207.210.210.202) |
| 20:05.11 | a1fa | hi brothers and sisters |
| 20:05.20 | tainted_ | asterboy DSL is pretty cool |
| 20:05.24 | asterboy | I remember creaming my pants over a 300baud acoustic coupled modem. |
| 20:05.40 | a1fa | how many brothers and sisters in here have e164? |
| 20:05.40 | asterboy | ya, DSL has my attention. |
| 20:05.44 | a1fa | fuck dSL |
| 20:05.52 | asterboy | I do |
| 20:05.53 | tainted_ | asterboy "Boot from within a host operating system" what's that all about |
| 20:06.12 | asterboy | like boot from within windows? |
| 20:06.16 | asterboy | or vmware? |
| 20:06.26 | asterboy | not sure, not used that yet. |
| 20:06.29 | tainted_ | really? |
| 20:06.38 | tainted_ | that would be very handy |
| 20:06.46 | Qwell[] | loadlin |
| 20:06.49 | asterboy | I think thats the idea there. |
| 20:06.49 | Qwell[] | no doubt |
| 20:07.07 | [TK]D-Fender | asterboy : Mine wasn't acoustic coupled, but I had to manually hold a toggle switch to initiate carrier :) |
| 20:07.15 | asterboy | lol |
| 20:07.30 | [TK]D-Fender | asterboy : and dial from an attached phone. |
| 20:07.36 | asterboy | I remember reading a story about Hayes. |
| 20:07.53 | *** join/#asterisk essaredee (i=srd@dhcp34.frictious.net) |
| 20:07.55 | asterboy | the guy who created the AT command set and popular modems of the day. |
| 20:08.05 | coppice | 300 baud was hot. 110 with an ASR33 was quite the thing in my college days |
| 20:08.10 | asterboy | he was just an average joe working in consulting like the rest of us. |
| 20:08.17 | essaredee | could someone help me with a zaptel problem? |
| 20:08.20 | coppice | Yeah. Issac Hayes |
| 20:08.29 | asterboy | I'd like to meet him. |
| 20:09.02 | coppice | to do something nasty to him? :-) |
| 20:09.06 | tainted_ | the voice of chef on south park? |
| 20:09.09 | essaredee | I'm getting this whilst trying to compile the zaptel driver: http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?show=633165 |
| 20:09.11 | *** join/#asterisk MacDome (n=eseidel@A17-255-98-154.apple.com) |
| 20:09.13 | tainted_ | jk |
| 20:09.14 | asterboy | oh ya, I remember the attached phone, you had to wait for carrier and hang up. |
| 20:09.18 | tainted_ | ATDT |
| 20:09.26 | tainted_ | ATZ |
| 20:09.28 | essaredee | eoc |
| 20:09.36 | asterboy | .~ |
| 20:09.41 | asterboy | ATH |
| 20:09.43 | essaredee | CD |
| 20:09.44 | tainted_ | ATA&X1&Z1 |
| 20:09.46 | coppice | <twiddel thumbs>+++<twiddle thumbs>ATH |
| 20:10.12 | tainted_ | NO CARRIER!! WTF!!11! |
| 20:10.17 | tainted_ | lol |
| 20:10.20 | asterboy | they said it would be physically impossible to reach past 1200 baud |
| 20:10.21 | a1fa | who is using enum lookups? |
| 20:10.50 | asterboy | now look at WiMAX |
| 20:10.52 | tainted_ | i remember first using ZMODEM and thanking god for coming up with error correction |
| 20:11.05 | asterboy | oh ya |
| 20:11.11 | asterboy | XMODEM was tuff |
| 20:11.14 | essaredee | ymodem had error correction |
| 20:11.34 | Nugget | xmodem did too. |
| 20:11.38 | *** join/#asterisk surye (i=1045@slackaholic.org) |
| 20:11.40 | tainted_ | i remember my first porn gif file off some anon BBS |
| 20:11.58 | Nugget | original xmodem used checksum and then later versions used crc |
| 20:12.18 | tainted_ | yea but they bombed if there was line noise |
| 20:12.20 | *** join/#asterisk meshuga (i=meshuga@c-67-160-86-86.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 20:12.27 | essaredee | so does anyone know why that isn't working? :) |
| 20:12.29 | [TK]D-Fender | tainted_ : Xmodem had error correction.... * bit checksum! |
| 20:12.33 | Nugget | ymodem was just xmodem with 1K blocks instead of 128, and then what zmodem did was add streaming. |
| 20:12.52 | surye | What's the best IAX2 free softphone for Windows? Any de facto standard? |
| 20:12.53 | Nugget | so that you didn't pause sending while each block was evaluated |
| 20:13.03 | coppice | ward christensen got the handshaking scheme wrong, trying to be too clever. that's what made xmodem <100% robust |
| 20:13.11 | [TK]D-Fender | X & Y-modem both had CRC versions, z-modem had CRC + auto-download initiation & multiple file capability.... |
| 20:14.35 | tainted_ | ahh |
| 20:14.36 | [TK]D-Fender | My first programming projects were terminal apps in BASIC and BBSing |
| 20:14.47 | asterboy | I still use kermit to this day |
| 20:15.01 | asterboy | BBSing...I miss those days. |
| 20:15.05 | asterboy | and War Dialing |
| 20:15.24 | [TK]D-Fender | Nugget : ANSI Script! |
| 20:15.27 | asterboy | War Games was a cool movie of the time. |
| 20:15.28 | dlynes | [TK]D-Fender, so did ymodem-g |
| 20:15.48 | [TK]D-Fender | dlynes : Oh yeah... foget about G sometimes.... |
| 20:15.59 | dlynes | [TK]D-Fender, ymodem-g was actually considerably better than zmodem, too |
| 20:16.17 | Nugget | the cool kids all used F'Req. |
| 20:16.22 | Corydon-w | Assuming you had no errors |
| 20:16.23 | [TK]D-Fender | dlynes : I definately don't remember Y-g being better than Z... Z was "end of the line"... |
| 20:16.36 | dlynes | [TK]D-Fender, ymodem-g cut my phone bills down quite a bit more than zmodem |
| 20:16.42 | Corydon-w | Ymodem-G had no error retry |
| 20:16.47 | asterboy | I still use Zmodem |
| 20:16.49 | [TK]D-Fender | Wasn't Y-g for hardware correctedf modems only? |
| 20:16.58 | Corydon-w | That's why it was faster than Z-modem |
| 20:17.00 | asterboy | rz and sz for Linux |
| 20:17.02 | dlynes | [TK]D-Fender, yeah, but i was using it on a courier hst |
| 20:17.18 | tainted_ | RIP graphics never really caught on for some reason |
| 20:17.25 | Corydon-w | Of course, if you had an error transferring, Y-modem-G would immediately quit |
| 20:17.26 | dlynes | [TK]D-Fender, it was about 10% faster than zmodem, easily |
| 20:17.32 | tainted_ | remember THEDRAW |
| 20:17.38 | [TK]D-Fender | tainted_ : YES! |
| 20:17.39 | tainted_ | haah |
| 20:17.41 | Nugget | I still have a copy of thedraw |
| 20:17.51 | tzanger | thedraw! |
| 20:17.55 | tzanger | I remember thedraw |
| 20:17.57 | tzanger | from thesoft |
| 20:17.58 | dlynes | tainted_, maybe cause they were so bloody slow on 2400 baud modems? |
| 20:18.00 | asterboy | I think it came down to the file type as to YmodemG or Zmodem being faster |
| 20:18.00 | tainted_ | i remember check out ANSi art from groups like ACiD |
| 20:18.02 | [TK]D-Fender | God I feel decrepit! |
| 20:18.04 | tzanger | yup |
| 20:18.06 | tainted_ | iCE, TDT |
| 20:18.06 | tzanger | I still have a bunch of it |
| 20:18.19 | asterboy | M.U.L.E. |
| 20:18.38 | tainted_ | i was animating stick figures and they had full blown montages |
| 20:18.40 | Nugget | if any of you guys haven't yet bought the http://bbsdocumentary.com/ DVDs yet, do so right now. |
| 20:18.40 | tzanger | google image search for "ansi art" for some nostalgia |
| 20:18.43 | Nugget | it's amazing. |
| 20:18.51 | Nugget | http://bbsdocumentary.dreamhost.com/trailers/index.html |
| 20:19.09 | dlynes | Nugget, is fido even still around? |
| 20:19.10 | coppice | I remember writing programs in binary, and entering them on a row of switches on the front panels of several minicomputers to get the bootloaders into place :-) |
| 20:19.18 | [TK]D-Fender | I miss SRE and Trade Wars (I was a GOD...) |
| 20:19.18 | dlynes | Nugget, or rime, for that matter? |
| 20:19.20 | Nugget | dlynes: yes, but not in any form you'd notice. |
| 20:19.20 | tzanger | coppice: I've done that! |
| 20:19.26 | Nugget | http://bbsdocumentary.dreamhost.com/trailers/teaser-trailer-heroes-lg.mov |
| 20:19.26 | asterboy | cool |
| 20:19.29 | tzanger | SRE oh man |
| 20:19.29 | tainted_ | i ran a wildcat! bbs for a while.. customized all the screens and got rid of that wretched default yellow |
| 20:19.30 | tzanger | BRE and SRE |
| 20:19.37 | tzanger | I cracked those programs for the bbs operators :-) |
| 20:19.44 | essaredee | while trying to compile zaptel using make, I get http://www.pastebin.com/633165, with make linux26 I get http://www.pastebin.com/633189 |
| 20:19.53 | asterboy | wildcat was a nice bbs |
| 20:19.56 | essaredee | any idea why it's doing this? |
| 20:19.57 | coppice | fido and citadel were great networks |
| 20:20.00 | tainted_ | haha |
| 20:20.05 | tzanger | no thanks... telegard and renegade for me |
| 20:20.13 | tainted_ | there was a game called Red Dragon or something |
| 20:20.15 | asterboy | citadel! |
| 20:20.16 | brad_mssw | WWIV rocked |
| 20:20.19 | tzanger | 1:519/221.77 was my address if I'm not mistaken |
| 20:20.25 | asterboy | almost forgot |
| 20:20.27 | [av]bani | AMIS |
| 20:20.29 | coppice | citadel is still going |
| 20:20.29 | [TK]D-Fender | WWIV was an easy hack with DOS TTY redirection ;) |
| 20:20.33 | Nugget | I love that heroes trailer. It's a parade of geeks surrounded by old computers and electornics kit. |
| 20:20.34 | tainted_ | tzanger those are WAREz bbs packages ahaha |
| 20:20.35 | [av]bani | .read new |
| 20:20.41 | [TK]D-Fender | I loved RemoteAccess for being in TP :) |
| 20:20.43 | Nugget | then some guy in a tie shows up... "author of pcboard" |
| 20:20.44 | tzanger | tainted_: yeah, so? :-) |
| 20:20.53 | [av]bani | Wildcat |
| 20:20.57 | tzanger | I still have the TG2.5i source somewhere |
| 20:20.57 | tainted_ | haha |
| 20:21.01 | tzanger | turbo pascal... <shudders> |
| 20:21.03 | [TK]D-Fender | PCBoard was FUGLY, but strangely popular... |
| 20:21.05 | tainted_ | i had the best upload ratios |
| 20:21.10 | essaredee | anyone? |
| 20:21.11 | tzanger | Renegade was TG ported to C if I'm not mistaken |
| 20:21.17 | Nugget | I know a lot of the wildcat guys. |
| 20:21.27 | tzanger | essaredee: looks like you have either a corrupted build or you're missing some development package |
| 20:21.34 | Nugget | greg hewgill is one of the distributed.net guys and used to work with me at ud.com |
| 20:21.42 | *** join/#asterisk sevard (i=sev@24-179-181-160.dhcp.dlth.mn.charter.com) |
| 20:21.42 | tainted_ | i actually BOUGHT wildcat when it came out on shelves and used it to run a WAREz bbs |
| 20:21.43 | tainted_ | lol |
| 20:22.02 | tainted_ | PCBoard was horrendous |
| 20:22.12 | essaredee | what development package might I be missing? |
| 20:22.13 | brad_mssw | heh, anyone remember ripterm ? |
| 20:22.18 | asterboy | Check this out...Commodore 64 on a single chip: |
| 20:22.18 | coppice | you used a licenced package to run a warex site? :-\ |
| 20:22.19 | dlynes | if you're interested |
| 20:22.19 | asterboy | http://galaxy22.dyndns.org/misc/hummerdtv/index.html |
| 20:22.27 | [TK]D-Fender | tzanger : Hey, TP was *great*. All of my best stuff was done in it! |
| 20:22.35 | dlynes | tradewars is on at : tw.tsss.org port 2002 |
| 20:22.38 | tainted_ | lol |
| 20:22.42 | tzanger | tainted_: heh. A friend of mine still has the original manuals and disks for his BBS (worldgroup I think?) |
| 20:22.49 | tzanger | [TK]D-Fender: I hated pascal, HATED it |
| 20:23.02 | tainted_ | those where the days |
| 20:23.03 | tainted_ | haha |
| 20:23.05 | tzanger | asterboy: yeah that's not new... :-) |
| 20:23.09 | asterboy | done my share of programming pascal. |
| 20:23.18 | tainted_ | tzanger did u charge people to log onto your bbs? |
| 20:23.22 | tzanger | tainted_: no |
| 20:23.29 | tainted_ | i had like 7 co-sysops at one time |
| 20:23.29 | coppice | pascal was terrible, unless it was extended. turbo pascal was extended in important ways |
| 20:23.30 | tzanger | I never had a board, my mom would never ever let me get the second phone line |
| 20:23.31 | *** join/#asterisk [hC] (n=hardcore@S01060004e21ea953.vc.shawcable.net) |
| 20:23.41 | tainted_ | it was hilarious.. we took memberships through a pobox |
| 20:23.45 | tzanger | I was a remote op on both the most hated and most loved BBSes in town though (Ice-Nine and New Gold Dream) |
| 20:23.54 | tzanger | 519-888-0085 was Ice-9 I remember that still |
| 20:24.00 | tzanger | with Helix McFadden |
| 20:24.01 | tainted_ | lol |
| 20:24.02 | *** part/#asterisk phpmattk_ (n=phpmattk@ip-216-7-118-114.fireserve.net) |
| 20:24.09 | tainted_ | u've called THEM a few times |
| 20:24.18 | tzanger | new Gold Dream was like 725-something |
| 20:24.35 | [TK]D-Fender | I did OOP in TP for text-GUI from scratch..... I was a complete bottom-up programmer... did all of my own libraries and the only code I used from anybody was a Z-Modem routine. |
| 20:24.36 | tainted_ | lol @ second phone line |
| 20:24.37 | tzanger | I sitll have all my .qwk spools from them |
| 20:24.54 | dlynes | You can use any telnet or mud client to log into that tradewars game, too |
| 20:24.54 | tainted_ | i had problems convincing mom too until she saw a few checks on my table |
| 20:24.56 | tainted_ | lol |
| 20:25.10 | tainted_ | oh man that's too funny |
| 20:25.12 | tzanger | you never told her that they were rubber though |
| 20:25.16 | dlynes | or swath (a specialized tradewars client) |
| 20:25.42 | *** join/#asterisk fbnewtz (n=cron@adsl-70-246-14-30.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) |
| 20:25.43 | tainted_ | fond memories lol |
| 20:26.00 | tzanger | yeah |
| 20:26.58 | _Paulo_ | how old is Steve? |
| 20:27.02 | fbnewtz | I am a newbie with some questions about configuring SIP. Anyone here available for some questions? |
| 20:27.10 | [TK]D-Fender | OMG, I'm in that TW2002 game! |
| 20:27.13 | docelm0 | Steve sokol? |
| 20:27.20 | tzanger | coppice? I imagine he's late thirties to mid-forties |
| 20:27.21 | _Paulo_ | Underwood |
| 20:27.29 | *** join/#asterisk pigpen2 (n=mark@207.71.48.222) |
| 20:27.37 | docelm0 | ohh was gonna say.. sokol is 2 days older than dirt.. |
| 20:27.38 | docelm0 | :) |
| 20:27.55 | _Paulo_ | :-) |
| 20:28.00 | [av]bani | trade wars was a ripoff of the original Space Empire |
| 20:28.12 | Qwell[] | [TK]D-Fender: in it? |
| 20:28.34 | [TK]D-Fender | Qwell : Yes! Too friggen cool .... |
| 20:28.42 | Qwell[] | in it how? |
| 20:28.52 | dlynes | playing it, obviously |
| 20:29.18 | *** join/#asterisk justinu|laptop (n=Justin@dsl081-083-093.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 20:29.25 | [TK]D-Fender | Qwell : telnet. |
| 20:29.32 | Qwell[] | right |
| 20:29.36 | Nugget | Space Empire Elete[sic] |
| 20:30.25 | [av]bani | NO WAI |
| 20:30.30 | dlynes | [TK]D-Fender, you know tintin++ has a new home, right? |
| 20:30.49 | dlynes | [TK]D-Fender, you could use that instead of telnet |
| 20:30.58 | *** join/#asterisk [hC] (n=hardcore@mail.metrobridge.com) |
| 20:32.08 | [TK]D-Fender | dlynes : Why? |
| 20:32.09 | eset | ok, so with a 2.6 kernel i dont need zaptel for meetme? |
| 20:32.18 | Qwell[] | eset: yes, you do |
| 20:32.21 | eset | ok |
| 20:32.24 | *** join/#asterisk justinu (n=Justin@dsl081-083-093.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 20:32.24 | eset | thanks |
| 20:32.27 | dlynes | [TK]D-Fender, you can do aliases and triggers then |
| 20:32.45 | dlynes | [TK]D-Fender, and have a split screen interface |
| 20:32.47 | [TK]D-Fender | dlynes : no need.... |
| 20:32.51 | salviadud | guys, if i want to specify a different port for an iax peer, should i add that in my dial on context or should i add that on iax.conf? |
| 20:33.02 | dlynes | [TK]D-Fender, so you can actually see what you're typing |
| 20:33.40 | salviadud | im sorry, my dial on extensions |
| 20:33.51 | salviadud | should i change the dialing or change it in iax.conf? |
| 20:34.12 | tainted_ | Nugget that bbs documentary looks awesome |
| 20:34.28 | [TK]D-Fender | dlynes : Since I virtually never use anything like this, its not enough for me to CARE... |
| 20:34.34 | *** part/#asterisk a1fa (n=a1fa@207.210.210.202) |
| 20:35.23 | dlynes | [TK]D-Fender, ah |
| 20:36.14 | Nugget | tainted_: it is. it's ten times better than I'd hoped |
| 20:36.33 | starlein | meetme works without zaptel device? |
| 20:36.37 | starlein | how that? |
| 20:36.44 | starlein | i got an error with /dev/zap/pseudo |
| 20:37.05 | [TK]D-Fender | I need to learn how to upgrade my kernel so I can get ZTDUMMY working.... |
| 20:39.02 | justinu|laptop | what distro |
| 20:39.06 | *** part/#asterisk tmccrary (n=tmccrary@68.78.185.254) |
| 20:39.42 | *** join/#asterisk _deg_ (n=deg@200.250.222.8) |
| 20:39.56 | [TK]D-Fender | justinu : Slackware |
| 20:40.12 | [TK]D-Fender | justinu : I bookmarked a million sites for it, but never really tried... |
| 20:40.26 | *** join/#asterisk denon (i=denon@synapse.subneural.net) |
| 20:40.26 | *** mode/#asterisk [+o denon] by ChanServ |
| 20:41.27 | justinu|laptop | slack, dunno... i used that a long time ago, and I just downloaded the kernel sources and built my own |
| 20:41.37 | trelane_ | anyone happen to know how to put a call on hold with the IAXy |
| 20:41.47 | [TK]D-Fender | justinu : Thats what they suggest... its the INITRD stuff and LILO that scares me more... |
| 20:41.52 | dlynes | [TK]D-Fender, which kernel? stock? |
| 20:42.05 | [TK]D-Fender | dlynes : I guess.... I just want a "basic loaded |
| 20:42.15 | dlynes | [TK]D-Fender, slackware 10.2? |
| 20:42.19 | [TK]D-Fender | " kernel for 2.6 so I can run the RTC timer. |
| 20:42.22 | [TK]D-Fender | dlynes : yup |
| 20:42.34 | [TK]D-Fender | dlynes : Its on the 2nd CD as well (older kernel) |
| 20:43.00 | *** join/#asterisk Flauto (n=zhao@adsl-75-3-83-26.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) |
| 20:43.05 | dlynes | [TK]D-Fender, if you want i can give you a precompiled 2.6 kernel that's got the ccitt compiled in and a bunch of other stuff, including low latency optimizations |
| 20:43.14 | [TK]D-Fender | This is the ONLY thing I dislike about Slackware installation... that I can't just choose a beefed up 2.6 kernel to start with... |
| 20:43.27 | dlynes | [TK]D-Fender, you'd just need to add it to your lilo.conf |
| 20:43.35 | Qwell[] | kernel-2.6.15-not-a-rootkit.jpg.exekernel |
| 20:43.37 | [TK]D-Fender | dlynes : Maybe later when I'm home... |
| 20:43.40 | [TK]D-Fender | :O |
| 20:43.48 | dlynes | Qwell, lol |
| 20:44.00 | *** join/#asterisk MattH (n=MattH@63.174.244.195) |
| 20:44.07 | [TK]D-Fender | Qwell : that looks a lot like the PerfectlySafePicOfPamAnderson.jpg.vbs I just got! |
| 20:44.20 | MattH | Hi... with asterisk 1.2.5 is there anyway to get it to use mpg123 instead of format_mp3 native? I've set format_mp3 to noload, but mpg123 doesn't start up |
| 20:44.20 | Qwell[] | [TK]D-Fender: run it, it says perfectly safe! |
| 20:44.22 | *** join/#asterisk blaylock (n=sfv100@cpe.a-e.hlxs.net) |
| 20:44.23 | dlynes | [TK]D-Fender, anyways, I just built it from the source for 2.6.15.5, and then compiled the zaptel sources against it |
| 20:44.50 | dlynes | [TK]D-Fender, because i didn't feel like upgrading my version of gcc just to be able to use a new kernel |
| 20:44.53 | blaylock | has anyone here used or is currently using polycom 501 or 601 phones with asterisk |
| 20:45.02 | [TK]D-Fender | dlynes : Its knowing what to enable and not enable that has me worried.... its also my internet gateway and failure = no internet.... |
| 20:45.15 | [TK]D-Fender | blaylock : LOTS of us... whats your question? |
| 20:45.17 | dlynes | [TK]D-Fender, if you use the 2.6 kernel that's on the slackware cd, you need to install the gcc package that's in that directory, too |
| 20:45.44 | blaylock | any troubles with echo? |
| 20:45.44 | dlynes | [TK]D-Fender, I can give you my complete source tree instead, if you'd like |
| 20:46.01 | [TK]D-Fender | blaylock : never because of the phone.... |
| 20:46.06 | blaylock | hmm |
| 20:46.14 | dlynes | [TK]D-Fender, it's 77MB's |
| 20:46.16 | blaylock | so have you had echo, and then fixed it somehow? |
| 20:46.22 | [TK]D-Fender | dlynes : Perhaps just some guidance will do once I'm in a position to follow through with it. |
| 20:46.36 | dlynes | [TK]D-Fender, I've got it set up as a slackware package |
| 20:46.44 | [TK]D-Fender | blaylock : I've had echo because of analog an T1 interfaces, sure.... but nothing to do with Polycom... |
| 20:47.14 | blaylock | hmm, so you have a T1 for the customer or yourself, and that was the reason? |
| 20:47.18 | dlynes | [TK]D-Fender, well, if it's any help, i'm sometimes hanging out on #slackware as well |
| 20:48.09 | blaylock | my situation is that one of our customers uses all polycom phones, but every 10 calls or so they report echo |
| 20:48.22 | blaylock | kinda like what you hear with a cell phone every so often |
| 20:48.28 | [TK]D-Fender | blaylock : Its all about your EC at the point of PSTN termination..... |
| 20:48.28 | [av]bani | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyXpHoihMXs&feature=Views&page=5&t=t&f=b |
| 20:48.33 | trelane_ | anyone happen to know how to put a call on hold with the IAXy? |
| 20:48.48 | [TK]D-Fender | blaylock : I had horrific echo when I first set up my server for work... |
| 20:49.07 | blaylock | [TK]D-Fender, so how did you fix it? |
| 20:49.51 | *** join/#asterisk dmorrigan (n=danielmo@h-64-105-156-154.phndaz91.covad.net) |
| 20:51.09 | dlynes | are all the problems associated with sipura 3000's and 2000's an asterisk problem, or is it a problem with the sipuras? |
| 20:51.26 | [TK]D-Fender | blaylock : I got a good echo cancelling T1 card... |
| 20:51.34 | dmorrigan | Can someone please help me with a crash problem: http://pastebin.com/633234 |
| 20:51.41 | blaylock | interesting |
| 20:51.49 | dmorrigan | Those are the errors and I am not sure what is causing them |
| 20:52.11 | dmorrigan | We are running Asterisk 1.2.6 from the SVN repos |
| 20:52.49 | *** join/#asterisk hfb (n=hfb@pool-71-116-252-188.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 20:52.56 | [av]bani | [TK]D-Fender bought a s****ma 104d |
| 20:52.59 | [TK]D-Fender | [av]bani : That video ROCKED.... |
| 20:53.09 | [av]bani | :D |
| 20:53.21 | blaylock | [TK]D-Fender, do you think it could be related to the way we have the T1 terminated at the customer site? |
| 20:53.31 | [av]bani | blaylock: you just have a crappy EC |
| 20:53.54 | [TK]D-Fender | blaylock : Its all about what kind of EC you have in you * server.... Zaptel works great for some, shit for others.... |
| 20:53.55 | blaylock | [TK]D-Fender, we have the t1 comming in, and then have the ehternet side going over the phone blocks |
| 20:54.04 | blaylock | using a cross over cable |
| 20:55.13 | dmorrigan | Anyone? |
| 20:55.22 | [av]bani | blaylock: buy a tellabs t1 EC |
| 20:55.25 | blaylock | t1 comming in to a CDU/ODU i should say |
| 20:55.33 | [av]bani | blaylock: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Tellabs+Hardware+Echo+Cancellers |
| 20:55.35 | blaylock | sorry, whats the EC stand fore? |
| 20:55.35 | *** join/#asterisk harryvv (n=none@S010600a0c93f6f7e.vs.shawcable.net) |
| 20:55.36 | blaylock | for |
| 20:55.40 | [av]bani | ~EC |
| 20:55.41 | jbot | extra, extra, read all about it, ec is Ecuador |
| 20:55.44 | [TK]D-Fender | ! |
| 20:55.47 | [av]bani | echo canceller |
| 20:55.50 | blaylock | duh |
| 20:55.53 | blaylock | geez |
| 20:56.04 | [av]bani | yay? |
| 20:56.11 | blaylock | ive been troubleshooting too much today |
| 20:56.14 | blaylock | :-) |
| 20:56.18 | harryvv | Is there any reason why asterisk would be running tar and using up 98% of my cpu load? this has been a ongoing issue. It currently is still running tar several hours after hanging up the call |
| 20:56.25 | tzanger | tar? |
| 20:56.29 | harryvv | yup |
| 20:56.36 | harryvv | Asterisk running tar command |
| 20:56.39 | tzanger | pstree and see what spawned tar |
| 20:56.41 | blaylock | compression going on or something? |
| 20:56.48 | blaylock | lsof | grep tar |
| 20:56.48 | tzanger | oh wait |
| 20:56.49 | harryvv | no idea |
| 20:56.54 | tzanger | tar is the new trunking protocol |
| 20:56.57 | file | Asterisk doesn't run tar... you have something else going on |
| 20:56.57 | blaylock | oh |
| 20:56.59 | tzanger | make sure trunk=no |
| 20:57.03 | [av]bani | wtf? |
| 20:57.04 | harryvv | this has done this before and it eats up cpu cycles and makes the call sound like crap |
| 20:57.18 | dmorrigan | Can someone please help me with a crash problem: http://pastebin.com/633234 |
| 20:57.21 | dmorrigan | Those are the errors and I am not sure what is causing them |
| 20:57.28 | dmorrigan | We are running Asterisk 1.2.6 from the SVN repos |
| 20:57.30 | harryvv | file, i can show you a snap shot of TOP and it will show the command tar to the far right |
| 20:57.47 | file | then do it, show us everything you can... |
| 20:58.40 | file | just remember you can execute system apps inside of your dialplan... |
| 20:58.41 | dmorrigan | when the server crashes there are about 70 outgoing calls |
| 21:00.00 | dlynes | dmorrigan, if you take a look at include/asterisk/frame.h, line 209 in the asterisk 1.2.6 source code, you'll see all the various error codes for why a call was ended |
| 21:00.13 | dlynes | dmorrigan, in your case, it was because the line was busy |
| 21:00.19 | dmorrigan | i did |
| 21:00.49 | dmorrigan | so it keeps trying until the server crashes? |
| 21:01.07 | harryvv | file take a look |
| 21:01.12 | harryvv | http://members.shaw.ca/glyfx3d/asterisk_top.jpg |
| 21:01.25 | file | that's as user asterisk |
| 21:01.37 | file | that's not asterisk itself running tar |
| 21:01.44 | harryvv | user asterisk? |
| 21:01.54 | file | yes, there's a user account named asterisk, and tar is running as that user |
| 21:02.06 | dlynes | dmorrigan, it might be a loop in your dialplan, or something |
| 21:02.18 | harryvv | file, does asterisk normally create that account? |
| 21:02.22 | file | no |
| 21:02.28 | file | asterisk does not do anything like that |
| 21:02.31 | harryvv | I never created it :) |
| 21:02.34 | dmorrigan | hmmm i will look for that |
| 21:02.35 | file | are you running Asterisk at Home or AMP? |
| 21:02.38 | dlynes | harryvv, nope...asterisk normally runs super secure as the root user |
| 21:02.48 | harryvv | well then might as well kill that account. |
| 21:02.57 | harryvv | yea running at home at the moment. |
| 21:03.05 | file | that's probably why... |
| 21:03.08 | harryvv | k |
| 21:03.14 | file | they might have a crontab on that user to archive log files or something |
| 21:03.21 | file | so in the end like I said, it's not Asterisk :) |
| 21:03.34 | harryvv | well obviosly there is a bug..it does not hand up |
| 21:03.59 | dlynes | file, when asterisk normally gets installed on freebsd, it calls up the asterisk console to do a log rotation, instead of using hte asterisk switch to do it |
| 21:04.08 | dlynes | file, perhaps your install is doing something similar in the crontab |
| 21:04.35 | file | harryvv, it does not what? |
| 21:04.49 | dlynes | s/hand up/hang up |
| 21:04.53 | harryvv | the process does not kill after archiving |
| 21:05.06 | dmorrigan | No loops. These are calls generated by .call files in the /var/spool/asterisk/outgoing dir |
| 21:05.17 | file | harryvv, but it still has nothing to do with Asterisk... |
| 21:05.25 | file | except it's running as the asterisk user |
| 21:05.43 | harryvv | well, it does affect its performance. this is a low end cpu system. |
| 21:05.47 | dlynes | dmorrigan, maybe asterisk isn't smart enough to give up for a while, when the line is busy |
| 21:05.59 | Qwell[] | harryvv: complain to the *@~ guys |
| 21:06.03 | harryvv | :) |
| 21:06.04 | dmorrigan | ACK! That's not good |
| 21:06.11 | file | Qwell[], thank you. |
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| 21:06.33 | dmorrigan | isn't there a wait for retries? |
| 21:06.57 | dlynes | dmorrigan, no idea...never used that interface before |
| 21:07.12 | dmorrigan | Ok thanks for the help though |
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| 21:08.32 | dlynes | dmorrigan, maybe try looking at the c code for the call files to see if there's any idle time checking in there |
| 21:08.58 | dmorrigan | Not a programmer so I don't even know what I would be looking for |
| 21:09.07 | Qwell[] | fiiilllleeee... |
| 21:09.49 | file | Qwellish! |
| 21:09.53 | Qwell[] | I'm hungry. :( |
| 21:09.59 | file | so am I |
| 21:10.03 | Qwell[] | let's go eat |
| 21:10.28 | file | but where? |
| 21:10.37 | Qwell[] | There's a place around the corner here |
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| 21:14.36 | Phretorian | hi all |
| 21:14.59 | Phretorian | anyone arround helping a noobie on FreeBSD / ODBC problem? |
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| 21:18.00 | Phretorian | anyone arround to talk even? |
| 21:18.08 | Harm|w | *crickets* |
| 21:18.10 | dmorrigan | People are here |
| 21:18.12 | dynamicpulse | i am |
| 21:18.14 | dynamicpulse | wee ha |
| 21:18.18 | Phretorian | :p |
| 21:18.32 | dmorrigan | LOL crickets |
| 21:18.34 | Phretorian | u know something about the ODBC error you get after a fresh install? |
| 21:18.49 | dmorrigan | I have not installed FreeBSD in a VERY long time |
| 21:18.54 | docelm0 | ~seen iCEBrkr |
| 21:19.01 | jbot | icebrkr is currently on #asterisk, last said: 'if Amp over looks includes (which I doubt) you'll be fine.'. |
| 21:19.19 | docelm0 | ACK! FREE BSD IS EVIL! |
| 21:19.23 | Phretorian | well i just need it working ... i know most of the config but this ODBC error is new to me |
| 21:19.24 | Harm|w | nein. |
| 21:19.31 | iCEBrkr | eh? |
| 21:19.44 | docelm0 | Harm|w, byte me |
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| 21:20.56 | dynamicpulse | did someone say Big Scary Demons (BSD) |
| 21:20.59 | Phretorian | Ouch ... error while writing audio data: : Broken pipe :( |
| 21:21.14 | Mauro__ | how do I make a call from an AGI app?? |
| 21:21.34 | Mauro__ | I just write the file to /home/asterisk/llamadas/lolo.call? |
| 21:21.39 | Mauro__ | oops |
| 21:21.49 | Mauro__ | to outgoing spool dir |
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| 21:28.04 | Phretorian | isnt their anyone who can help me with asterisk :( |
| 21:29.01 | trelane_ | Phretorian, have you asked a question? |
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| 21:29.38 | trelane_ | Phretorian, you might find this helpful in solving your problem or forming a question that will get you help. http://www.google.com/url?sa=U&start=1&q=http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html&e=9797 |
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| 21:33.47 | salaud | I upgraded to asterisk 1.2.4 and zaptel 1.2.4 (best I could find in debian) and now DTMF won't come inbound correctly on IAX channels |
| 21:33.58 | salaud | I have done iax2 debug and see the DTMF events... but they aren't being recognized |
| 21:34.09 | salaud | any ideas? |
| 21:34.22 | salaud | ie... They sit in TIMEOUT(digits) and user isn't sent to an extension |
| 21:34.47 | Harm|w | which DTMF format you sending? |
| 21:35.13 | salaud | Harm|w: I didn't know I had a choice with IAX? |
| 21:35.42 | salaud | Harm|w: Can't find any parameters to change about DTMF in iax2.conf |
| 21:35.59 | Phretorian | thnx trelane for that comment :( just what i needed |
| 21:38.17 | salaud | Harm|w: It's a bizarre problem. Of course when I send DTMF digits OUTBOUND over an IAX channel they are received correctly on the other side |
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| 21:40.24 | SpaceBass | anyone ever use freedigits.com? |
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| 21:42.31 | salaud | I can't believe that no else is having this IAX DTMF problem.. |
| 21:42.39 | salaud | I'm at the point of having to go back to 1.0.7 |
| 21:44.49 | SplasPood | Can someone with a firm grasp on the laws regarding VoIP providers and E911 service answer a couple questions for me? |
| 21:45.04 | SpaceBass | SplasPood, what are you wondering? |
| 21:45.25 | SplasPood | SpaceBass: is it legal to not provide routing to 911 assuming your customers are all properly notified of this fact when the contract is signed? |
| 21:45.53 | rikishi | how's the process for transfering a call to another extension? After I answer the call from the extension, should I put it on hold and then transfer it? |
| 21:46.22 | bkw_ | Jingle, Jingle, Jingle |
| 21:46.39 | SpaceBass | SplasPood, as far as I know there was a requirement they they at least notify you that they cannot do it....after that I think there is a requirement that they have to provide 911 soon...but not sure when |
| 21:46.54 | SpaceBass | I'm really no expert, just thought you were better off asking the question to everyone |
| 21:46.59 | SplasPood | thats what I believe as well, but I'm getting legal documents from my co-workers |
| 21:47.29 | SpaceBass | rikishi, assuming your phone doesnt have a transfer feature, you can use # to transfer...just press # and dial the exten |
| 21:47.33 | Lino` | woah /me 's getting all confused here ;) |
| 21:47.43 | Lino` | 2 nicks, same length, almost same spelling ;) |
| 21:47.50 | SpaceBass | arrrruuuggg....cannot get freedigits.com to work |
| 21:48.01 | SpaceBass | Lino`, lol |
| 21:48.13 | Qwell[] | /nick SpicePool |
| 21:48.16 | Lino` | yeah |
| 21:48.18 | Lino` | right |
| 21:48.20 | Lino` | good thought |
| 21:48.39 | SpiceBoss | now this adds much to the confusion |
| 21:48.55 | eric_hill | SplasPood: I'm reading some legal mumbo-jumbo now, hang on a sec... |
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| 21:49.08 | SplasPood | eric: http://fcc.gov/cgb/voip911order.pdf |
| 21:49.41 | harryvv | local voip resellers are selling service as low as 5.95 per month |
| 21:49.51 | eric_hill | That's what I'm reading :) |
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| 21:50.07 | SplasPood | depending on how you read that it can go either way, IMHO |
| 21:50.24 | SplasPood | but supposedly a co-worker just called the FCC and got directed to that document and told "Nope, you have to provide 911 or elesE" |
| 21:50.30 | TUplink | ok... this is wierd even when i call my self i get -- Attempting native bridge of IAX2/20001-7 and IAX2/20001-8 |
| 21:50.30 | TUplink | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:51.29 | TUplink | any ideas |
| 21:52.03 | eric_hill | SplasPood: Sure looks like you need to provide 911 access to me. |
| 21:52.30 | SplasPood | so is it me or are like.. a billion voip providers not in compliance? |
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| 21:52.50 | eric_hill | SplasPood: "The provision of access to 911 should not be optional for any telephone service provider." |
| 21:53.30 | salaud | Remember the Computer Club provides a good loophole... at least for now |
| 21:53.30 | SplasPood | eric: yea, but the whole 'telephone service provider' thing... That implies a given voip provider is regulated as such |
| 21:53.39 | eric_hill | SplasPood: I'd say that if you're in the business of providing VoIP to external customers, you need to provide it. |
| 21:53.48 | salaud | If you setup as a club with members and dues, you might not have the same issues |
| 21:53.55 | SplasPood | From what I gather providing it is... umm... painful |
| 21:54.31 | eric_hill | salaud: Exactly right. Simply a bunch of users getting together to share a VoIP server isn't the same thing as a commercially binding entity. |
| 21:55.11 | salaud | Doesn't mean the club can't make money to further support the interests of the club/collective/co-op/etc |
| 21:55.14 | SplasPood | I'd love to provide "proper" 911 service to our customers (all business), but from what I gather thats not really possible |
| 21:55.18 | TUplink | any one use telasip? |
| 21:55.21 | eric_hill | SplasPood: The ruling sounds like "If you're going to compete with Ma Bell, you're going to offer E911. Period." |
| 21:55.42 | eric_hill | SplasPood: Why couldn't you provide proper 911 through a single trunk line? |
| 21:55.47 | dynamicpulse | TUplink i do! |
| 21:55.57 | SplasPood | eric: I'd agree with the logic. But there's a whole bunch of regulation that comes along with being a "traditional" phone company |
| 21:55.57 | salaud | Here's the other thing... Ma Bell MUST provide 911 access to any home fro free |
| 21:56.12 | SplasPood | eric: a line in EACH customer's location? |
| 21:56.24 | TUplink | dynamicpulse can i im you |
| 21:56.28 | SplasPood | salaud: to any connected line, actually |
| 21:56.29 | salaud | so just have club members order the local monopoly to give them 911 only |
| 21:56.30 | SplasPood | business or home |
| 21:56.30 | eric_hill | SplasPood: Location == metro area. One line in LA is enough. |
| 21:56.51 | salaud | then club members always have a 911 phone |
| 21:56.55 | eric_hill | salaud: ONLY if there is existing copper to the location... |
| 21:57.05 | SplasPood | eric_hill: See here's the thing... If we provide any type of 911, it damn well better be rock solid and direct to the proper call center |
| 21:57.16 | salaud | right.. if there has never been copper.. that's a problem |
| 21:57.20 | salaud | so order copper for a month |
| 21:57.26 | salaud | then switch to free 911 only |
| 21:57.31 | eric_hill | salaud: now that's just not nice :) |
| 21:57.54 | salaud | neither is telephone monopoly |
| 21:57.56 | salaud | ;) |
| 21:58.09 | eric_hill | SplasPood: You're going to have to purchase POTS service from somewhere, right? Get 911 through the POTS provider. |
| 21:58.10 | SplasPood | that line ain't costing them anything really |
| 21:58.28 | eric_hill | Except a port on a phone system... |
| 21:58.34 | SplasPood | yea |
| 21:58.37 | SplasPood | so not anything |
| 21:58.37 | SplasPood | really |
| 21:58.55 | eric_hill | You haven't priced Nortel 5E line cards recently, have you? |
| 21:58.59 | eric_hill | : |
| 21:59.20 | eric_hill | I'm not sure you could fit the stack of Benjamins in the slot... |
| 21:59.26 | SplasPood | For some reason I get the feeling that they're not hurting for spare ports |
| 21:59.32 | eric_hill | Touche' |
| 22:01.10 | Leland | don't suppose anyone has tried using the Asterisk.NET class libraries for visual studio .net ? |
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| 22:02.02 | TUplink | "Operating with different codecs" any one have any ideas |
| 22:02.03 | SplasPood | eric_hill: check out page 28, paragraph 48 of that document |
| 22:02.50 | salaud | I'm about to rollback my asterisk to 1.2.4 to 1.0.7.. I got to have the IAX channel DTMF working... this sucks |
| 22:03.04 | Qwell[] | saluWhy not...upgrade? |
| 22:03.17 | Qwell[] | silly tab key...didn't fix my typo |
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| 22:03.45 | salaud | Qwell[]: I could upgrade to 1.2.6 ... but I don't know that it will solve the problem |
| 22:03.48 | eric_hill | SplasPood: right - looks like a "we offer E911 in New York and Detroit only. If you aren't in these cities, you won't have access to E911 service" |
| 22:04.02 | Qwell[] | salaud: You don't know that it won't, either |
| 22:04.10 | salaud | Qwell[]: I already went from 1.2.1 to 1.2.4 with no difference in the problem |
| 22:04.23 | Qwell[] | and if you're having an issue that doesn't get reported, it'll never get fixed |
| 22:04.27 | TUplink | Qwell[] your quite smart... think you can help me? |
| 22:04.30 | salaud | Qwell[]: 1.2.6 - can't find a Debian package yet |
| 22:04.32 | eric_hill | SplasPood: They don't really say you need to offer E911 service *everywhere*, just that you have to offer *some* E911 service. |
| 22:04.34 | Qwell[] | So, if you want to stay on 1.0.x forever...go ahead |
| 22:04.40 | Qwell[] | salaud: There is your problem right there. Packages are fucked. |
| 22:04.54 | Qwell[] | TUplink: depends |
| 22:05.08 | GerbilNut | what version is recommend for hardcore production? |
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| 22:05.21 | salaud | Qwell[]: Could be the packages... |
| 22:05.35 | Qwell[] | GerbilNut: ABE |
| 22:05.36 | TUplink | im using IAX when i make an IAX call to an IAX client.... it conects but no sound.... even when i call myself i get -- Attempting native bridge of IAX2/20001-7 and IAX2/20001-8 -- Operating with different codecs 2[0x2 (gsm)] 1542[0x606 (gsm|ulaw|speex|ilbc)] , can't native bridge... |
| 22:05.40 | [Outcast] | does on one know what error 0x4020 on the polycoms means? |
| 22:05.54 | GerbilNut | ABE? |
| 22:05.55 | salaud | Qwell[]: Where will I report the problems? Who will listen? ;) |
| 22:06.12 | Qwell[] | salaud: upgrade to 1.2.6, try it, then report a bug at bugs.digium.com, if it still exists |
| 22:06.21 | Qwell[] | GerbilNut: Asterisk Business Edition |
| 22:06.37 | GerbilNut | ahh |
| 22:06.43 | salaud | Qwell[]: Is there a zaptel 1.2.6? or is 1.2.4 the latest? |
| 22:06.51 | Qwell[] | salaud: see /topic |
| 22:06.54 | TUplink | any idea Qwell[] |
| 22:07.10 | salaud | Qwell[]: Doh! right... there's always that stuff at the top of the screen ;) |
| 22:07.13 | eric_hill | SplasPood: The law is really about making a "best effort" sort of thing. If the majority of your customer base is in one city, you should probably have E911 in that city. |
| 22:07.47 | eric_hill | SplasPood: If you have a customer in BFI, don't worry about it; as long as you didn't tell that customer you had E911 there, you don't need to provide it. |
| 22:08.20 | SplasPood | eric: but thats not what it says, see #47 |
| 22:08.55 | SplasPood | 47. Customer Requirements. In light of the recent incidents involving problems with 911 access |
| 22:08.55 | SplasPood | from interconnected VoIP services,149 it is clear that not all providers of interconnected VoIP are |
| 22:08.56 | SplasPood | including E911 as a standard feature of their services.150 We find that allowing customers of |
| 22:08.56 | SplasPood | interconnected VoIP providers to opt-in to or, for that matter, opt-out of E911 service is fundamentally |
| 22:08.56 | SplasPood | inconsistent with our obligation to “encourage and support efforts by States to deploy comprehensive |
| 22:08.56 | SplasPood | end-to-end emergency communications infrastructure and programs.”151 Thus, interconnected VoIP |
| 22:08.58 | SplasPood | providers must, as a condition of providing that service to a consumer, provide that consumer with E911 |
| 22:09.00 | SplasPood | service as outlined in the requirements above.152 |
| 22:09.03 | Qwell[] | umm...yeah |
| 22:09.07 | eric_hill | SplasPood: read #46 through |
| 22:09.16 | eric_hill | s/through/though |
| 22:09.23 | TUplink | Qwell[] who is umm to? |
| 22:10.22 | SplasPood | eric: that doesn't say anything |
| 22:10.29 | SplasPood | eric: it says "You have to provide 911, boo-ya" |
| 22:10.58 | Qwell[] | oh come on, the horse is already dead. Stop beating it. |
| 22:11.07 | GerbilNut | Qwell[], just a guess, but ABE has to be purchased, right? |
| 22:11.13 | Qwell[] | GerbilNut: yes |
| 22:12.21 | GerbilNut | k, thanks |
| 22:12.22 | TUplink | Qwell[] you think there is any hope for me? |
| 22:13.59 | Qwell[] | none |
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| 22:14.28 | TUplink | so what sould i do... |
| 22:14.50 | TUplink | im on 1.2.4 i know 1.2.6 is out but no freebsd port 4 it |
| 22:15.04 | SplasPood | Tuplink: make, make install.. |
| 22:15.05 | Qwell[] | Then don't use the port |
| 22:15.22 | TUplink | but then it gets complicated |
| 22:15.31 | TUplink | but ill give it a shoot |
| 22:15.34 | Qwell[] | complicated? It's two commands |
| 22:15.37 | TUplink | what do i have to lose |
| 22:15.41 | SplasPood | heh, you have to type the same two commands to build/install the port |
| 22:15.44 | Qwell[] | one even |
| 22:15.51 | TUplink | but make never works |
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| 22:19.22 | Phretorian | anyone working asterisk on freeBSD? |
| 22:19.43 | Phretorian | Mar 31 22:14:53 WARNING[481]: loader.c:325 __load_resource: Shared object "libpri.so.1.0" not found, required by "chan_zap.so" |
| 22:21.24 | eset | i dont suppose there is an easy way under debian to compile the zaptel drivers? having lots of problems |
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| 22:22.32 | mino | hi gusys |
| 22:22.47 | mino | does anyone know where to get meetme2 or app_conference? |
| 22:22.58 | mino | and does they work with the new asterisk? |
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| 22:28.20 | andrewhearn | hi, when I do a 'show modules' what does the 'Use Count' collumn mean? Does a 0 mean it's not running? |
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| 22:35.17 | hypa7ia | anyone know how to pass a "flash" from an analog phone on a zap channel to another zap channel as a flash instead of it telling * to do the three-way call itself? |
| 22:35.24 | hypa7ia | if that makes any sense :/ |
| 22:35.36 | andrewhearn | Hmm, the reason I ask is that I've upgraded a server to latest stable and mysql logging has stopped |
| 22:35.42 | Strom_M | hypa7ia, you want complete supervision pass-through? |
| 22:36.02 | luke-jr_ | Asterisk 2.1 is released, someone update the topic ;) |
| 22:36.13 | hypa7ia | Strom_M: i want the flash button on my phone to use the three-way calling on the line rather than taking up two of our 4 trunks |
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| 22:36.47 | andrewhearn | luke-jr_: not april 1st here yet! |
| 22:36.55 | andrewhearn | lol |
| 22:36.57 | luke-jr_ | andrewhearn: shh |
| 22:37.48 | SplasPood | http://www.intrado.com/main/home/ |
| 22:37.49 | SplasPood | hrm.. |
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| 22:38.55 | hypa7ia | Strom_M: can you elaborate? google is being somewhat useless |
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| 22:40.06 | Strom_M | hypa7ia, in all reality, you want as much of the switching to happen locally rather than distributing some of the switching functions out to the telco. |
| 22:40.27 | Strom_M | that's why your analog lines are now considered trunks |
| 22:41.21 | hypa7ia | Strom_M: problem is we only have 4 trunks... we'd like to be able to use three-way calling on them since it's cheaper than adding additional trunks |
| 22:41.31 | Strom_M | however, try a hookflash followed by *0 |
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| 22:41.53 | hypa7ia | cool, will do |
| 22:42.06 | Strom_M | i dont know if it will work |
| 22:42.11 | Strom_M | let me know whether it works :) |
| 22:44.43 | Shaun222 | Strom_M: dont know if you remember what i was telling you i wanted to do yesturday but was wondering. if i want to do this how should i go about it. Seams like i would have to put the user on hold, call the extention, then anounce the caller and then connect them... |
| 22:45.15 | Strom_M | Shaun222, um, what? |
| 22:45.22 | Strom_M | please ask a less muddled question |
| 22:46.13 | Shaun222 | Strom_M: yesturday, i was saying i wanted to create the system so that a caller would say his name, then it would go out and find a agent/member and tell that agent/member the callers name.. |
| 22:46.26 | Strom_M | yes |
| 22:46.32 | Shaun222 | and ask the agent/member a few questions about what to do with the caller (connect, voicemain, drop) |
| 22:46.44 | Shaun222 | trying to figure out how to go about this. |
| 22:48.56 | hypa7ia | Strom_M: i have both lines on now, how do i bridge them :s |
| 22:49.07 | Strom_M | hypa7ia, hookflash again? |
| 22:49.40 | hypa7ia | *0 again did it |
| 22:49.43 | hypa7ia | so the process is |
| 22:49.59 | hypa7ia | hookflash, *0, dial the 2nd number, *0 again |
| 22:50.21 | hypa7ia | which is only marginally more complicated than before |
| 22:50.24 | hypa7ia | woo hoo! |
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| 22:52.33 | hypa7ia | hrm it is a little more complicated than that |
| 22:52.50 | hypa7ia | hookflash, *0, dial the 2nd number followed by #, then hookflash and *0 again |
| 22:53.58 | hypa7ia | also it engages a new zap channel each time you hit flash so it won't work if all the trunks are busy, i don't think |
| 22:54.06 | hypa7ia | thanks a ton Strom_M :) |
| 22:54.20 | hypa7ia | it should be good enough til we get some sip trunks |
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| 23:00.37 | [hC] | hypaaa |
| 23:00.59 | hypa7ia | hccccccc |
| 23:01.01 | hypa7ia | how goes man |
| 23:01.06 | [hC] | good, how about you! |
| 23:01.10 | hypa7ia | awesome |
| 23:01.17 | hypa7ia | i made 3-way calling work |
| 23:01.27 | [hC] | haha |
| 23:01.34 | [hC] | theres a trick to it? |
| 23:02.01 | hypa7ia | well we have zap trunks and 4 zap stations on our system (so ghetto) |
| 23:02.14 | hypa7ia | now we can use the bell 3-way on the zap trunks |
| 23:02.18 | [hC] | Ahh... So you have to send #0 down the zap trunk? |
| 23:02.19 | hypa7ia | instead of using a real line |
| 23:03.32 | hypa7ia | um you do hookflash then *0 as it turns out |
| 23:04.05 | hypa7ia | i want to figure out how to make it behave in a non-retarded way though |
| 23:04.33 | hypa7ia | like it intercepts the hookflash then checks if there's already 2 calls on the line and if there is it uses a 2nd zap trunk |
| 23:04.46 | hypa7ia | rather than all this *0 crap :) |
| 23:05.11 | hypa7ia | but, for now at least it works |
| 23:06.07 | Strom_M | hypa7ia, rip out your analog trunks and replace them with an ISDN line :) |
| 23:06.21 | russellb | hypa7ia is my hero |
| 23:06.42 | hypa7ia | lol Strom_M |
| 23:06.45 | hypa7ia | <3 russellb |
| 23:06.59 | russellb | :) |
| 23:07.45 | hypa7ia | russellb: how goes? |
| 23:07.59 | russellb | i'm doing alright ... just got a pizza and it's the weekend |
| 23:08.03 | russellb | can't ask for much more than that |
| 23:08.11 | hypa7ia | schweet |
| 23:08.17 | russellb | and yourself? |
| 23:08.18 | hypa7ia | i got the keys to my new apartment today, yay! |
| 23:08.27 | russellb | nice! |
| 23:08.36 | hypa7ia | and a haircut, yay not having a mullet |
| 23:08.44 | russellb | lol |
| 23:08.52 | russellb | i bet you looked great with that mullet |
| 23:09.01 | hypa7ia | i looked mulletorific |
| 23:09.05 | mino | does anyone know the url to meetme2 ? |
| 23:09.19 | russellb | i don't think there is such a thing |
| 23:09.28 | russellb | there is an app_conference, though |
| 23:10.42 | hypa7ia | my next task with the asterisk box at work is to make the rap theme song someone wrote about us into a moh file :) |
| 23:11.00 | russellb | ha, nice |
| 23:11.02 | Qwell[] | rap theme song? |
| 23:11.05 | russellb | what format is it in? |
| 23:11.08 | russellb | it will probably work as it is |
| 23:11.13 | hypa7ia | mp3, but not the right one apparently |
| 23:11.49 | hypa7ia | Qwell[]: yuppers |
| 23:12.00 | hypa7ia | okay gotta run |
| 23:12.10 | hypa7ia | we are off to investigate the noisy patio bar next door |
| 23:12.16 | russellb | lame -q -p --mp3input -a --preset 8 in.mp3 8kout.mp3 |
| 23:12.26 | russellb | fun, have a good night! |
| 23:12.44 | hypa7ia | russellb: you should come up to toronto and pubcrawl again :D |
| 23:12.59 | russellb | haha, so i can go to another "booze can" ? |
| 23:13.04 | hypa7ia | haha |
| 23:13.22 | hypa7ia | did you coem to gretzky's or did you call it quits before that, i don't remember |
| 23:13.36 | hypa7ia | i think that might be where we're going now :) |
| 23:14.06 | russellb | that may have been after i left |
| 23:14.14 | russellb | i had to leave earlier than the other 2 |
| 23:14.40 | russellb | no wait, i did go there ... |
| 23:14.56 | russellb | whatever, have fun :) |
| 23:15.45 | hypa7ia | will do :D |
| 23:16.03 | De_Mon | option 'i' in app_meetme prompts & reviews the users name, I want to turn off the reviewing but am stuck on implimentation, I'm thinking 'I' for intro without review |
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| 23:16.12 | mino | russellb: there is meetme2 |
| 23:16.17 | P4C0 | hello guys |
| 23:16.18 | mino | but the page is down |
| 23:16.31 | P4C0 | one, question, what is the best audio codec? |
| 23:17.27 | De_Mon | mino what page would that be? |
| 23:18.32 | De_Mon | the only meetme2 page I see is the wiki's 'design' page |
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| 23:19.58 | P4C0 | I'm speriense some glitches in the calls, I have a 640kbps link... maybe i'm using the wrong codec... ? |
| 23:20.18 | jaike | P4C0: might be network jitter |
| 23:21.02 | P4C0 | jaike, yes, but what codec is the one that give less overhead in the network? |
| 23:21.28 | jaike | overhead? g729 |
| 23:21.44 | jaike | one ulaw call uses 87kbps..g729 uses 27kbps |
| 23:21.52 | jaike | same quality |
| 23:22.08 | jaike | youve to pay a license to use it though |
| 23:22.30 | P4C0 | what about speex? |
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| 23:26.25 | bkw_ | g729 is not the same quality as ulaw |
| 23:26.28 | bkw_ | never has never will |
| 23:26.59 | bkw_ | bandwidth on g729 could be dropped if you had the ability to put 30 or 60ms per packet |
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| 23:37.06 | P4C0 | :) |
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| 23:38.33 | P4C0 | so if I have to choose between G729 and G711 ? |
| 23:38.50 | Qwell[] | You choose the one that fits your situation best |
| 23:39.09 | Qwell[] | If one codec fit every situation, there would only be one |
| 23:39.12 | Shaun222 | if i wanted to record somthing a caller was saying and then have them press # when finished is their a command for that? |
| 23:39.24 | Shaun222 | right now i can record but i'm using EAGI and piping into a raw file |
| 23:39.42 | Shaun222 | but i dont see a easy way to tell when they are finished. |
| 23:39.46 | De_Mon | Shaun222 it's called Record() |
| 23:39.57 | P4C0 | Qwell, low bandwith |
| 23:40.04 | Shaun222 | lol |
| 23:40.21 | Qwell[] | P4C0: then try g729 or gsm |
| 23:40.34 | P4C0 | Qwell, thanks |
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| 23:40.52 | CrashHD | Hello |
| 23:40.58 | De_Mon | where can I download meetme2 I don't see a url on wiki |
| 23:41.15 | P4C0 | what is codec translation path!? |
| 23:41.49 | CrashHD | I need some help debuging this iax module |
| 23:41.54 | CrashHD | it keeps crashing my asterisk |
| 23:41.59 | Qwell[] | P4C0: it means you need to buy g729 licenses |
| 23:42.38 | CrashHD | Qwell: can I bug you about this iax2 module issue? |
| 23:42.46 | P4C0 | Qwell, my voip provider only support g729 and g711 |
| 23:43.02 | P4C0 | so I supposed that I can only use g711 then... |
| 23:43.02 | CrashHD | P4C0: you need to purchase 729 licenses from digium |
| 23:43.02 | Qwell[] | P4C0: buy a $10 g729 license from Digium, try it out |
| 23:43.07 | CrashHD | http://www.digium.com/ |
| 23:43.08 | Qwell[] | If it sucks, then you're only out $10 |
| 23:43.23 | P4C0 | Qwell, :) |
| 23:43.27 | CrashHD | Qwell's right...what's 10 bucks these days? |
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| 23:43.43 | Qwell[] | CrashHD: less than dinner for 2 at McDonalds? |
| 23:43.48 | De_Mon | thats 10 cheesburgers! |
| 23:43.49 | CrashHD | LOL |
| 23:43.57 | Qwell[] | De_Mon: get out of my head |
| 23:44.06 | CrashHD | 10 cheeseburgers and 1/2 a heartattack |
| 23:44.11 | De_Mon | we must have seen the same commerical :) |
| 23:44.14 | Qwell[] | 9 cheeseburgers, and tax... |
| 23:44.16 | Qwell[] | De_Mon: nope |
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| 23:44.26 | De_Mon | oh.. ok them I'm scared |
| 23:45.03 | CrashHD | http://pastebin.com/633552 |
| 23:45.09 | CrashHD | that's my bt full from my last core dump |
| 23:45.17 | CrashHD | any ideas on what I should do? |
| 23:45.28 | CrashHD | * is crashing at least twice a day |
| 23:45.37 | CrashHD | 1.2.6 |
| 23:45.48 | P4C0 | but anyways my sip phones only support u-law, gsm, ilbc and a-law... if my asterisk need to convert one of them to g711 or g729 what's the best to use? |
| 23:45.55 | CrashHD | (what I pasted is the last few lines from my bt full) |
| 23:46.13 | CrashHD | ulaw = g711 |
| 23:46.28 | Shaun222 | i wonder why the pls-rcrd-name-at-tone has so much dead air at the end of it |
| 23:46.45 | Qwell[] | P4C0: If all calls go through your provider, use the same codec, otherwise, if it's all over the lan, use ulaw |
| 23:47.05 | Qwell[] | No point in transcoding from g729 to something else, and back...kinda silly |
| 23:49.14 | P4C0 | Qwell, my asterisk is like in the middle between my provider and my lan |
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| 23:52.08 | phpmattk_ | what are some good starting points for an asterisk begginer.. explaining the software/hardware from a top down perspective.. etc? |
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| 23:52.53 | De_Mon | Shaun222 to give people time to get ready |
| 23:53.48 | brookshire | phpmatt: the O'Reilly book maybe? |
| 23:53.54 | Shaun222 | De_Mon: according to sox it's only 1.9 seconds long |
| 23:54.07 | Shaun222 | but i seam to have 2-3 seconds of blank air |
| 23:54.55 | Shaun222 | De_Mon: just to test i did print "EXEC PLAYBACK pls-rcrd-name-at-tone\n"; print "EXEC PLAYBACK and-prs-pound-whn-finished\n"; print "EXEC PLAYBACK and-prs-pound-whn-finished\n"; |
| 23:55.10 | phpmattk_ | brookshire: thx, i read the reviews for it... looks pretty good |
| 23:55.20 | Shaun222 | and the "and-prs-pound-whn-finished" played back to back just fine with out air |
| 23:55.22 | CrashHD | what is exit status 1 mean? |
| 23:55.25 | Shaun222 | only the first one does it |
