00:02.07 | X-Files | eh |
00:03.25 | X-Files | De_Mon jaike Qwell: check this too http://pastebin.ca/37714 Please |
00:04.13 | Ariel_ | X-Files, do you have 2 different eyebean phones setup |
00:05.21 | X-Files | Ariel_: yes :) 1) Presence agent --> http://pastebin.ca/37698 |
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00:05.38 | X-Files | Ariel_: 2) Peer-to-Peer --> http://pastebin.ca/37714 |
00:05.53 | X-Files | Ariel_: and not work :( |
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00:15.48 | X-Files | eh |
00:16.16 | zu | hy all |
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00:16.52 | Dr-Linux | anybody familiar with AGI? |
00:17.18 | zu | yes |
00:17.36 | zu | and ael |
00:17.52 | Dr-Linux | zu: can i pm you? |
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00:18.04 | zu | sure |
00:18.11 | Dr-Linux | thanks |
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00:27.10 | dijit0 | are features such as *67 things you gotta write yourself? |
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00:28.25 | zu | got dissed |
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00:33.41 | sivana | since * uses RTP ports 10000-20000, could it be possible for an answered call to disrupt a chat program that uses port 10003 ? |
00:34.47 | BeHappy_ | if it's 10003 udp yes |
00:35.51 | sivana | it's a browser chat using port 10003 (ie: http://blah.com:10003) |
00:35.55 | sivana | wouldn't that be tcp? |
00:36.03 | Peggerr | http://www.hacktopia.net/ |
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00:36.20 | BeHappy_ | yes and :10003 it's the server port, your local opened port surely wont be 10003 |
00:36.41 | BeHappy_ | well, not surely but it would be a big coincidence |
00:40.50 | zu | ~seen Corydon76 |
00:41.02 | jbot | corydon76 <three@pcp01812660pcs.nash01.tn.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #asterisk, 752d 20h 39m 55s ago, saying: 'Why don't you try it out with IAXtel?'. |
00:43.11 | jbroome | that's a long damn time ago |
00:46.24 | Grubs | Can anyone tell me where to view debug messages logged by RxFax when using rxfax(${FAXFILE}|debug) |
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00:46.40 | maskEd | can anyone recommend a wifi voip phone? |
00:47.11 | iDunno | none of them, batteries suck? :) |
00:47.23 | Ariel_ | maskEd, I just ordered a UTStarcom F1000 should have it next week. |
00:48.15 | rob0 | and the week after that it will be on ebay ;) |
00:48.23 | maskEd | do any do iax? |
00:49.40 | Ariel_ | sip |
00:49.54 | Ariel_ | rob0, no I have used them before there actually pretty good. |
00:50.05 | maskEd | yeah i understand it does sip, but do any do iax? |
00:50.12 | Ariel_ | maskEd, no |
00:50.27 | maskEd | while on the topic of wifi phones, well kinda... does anyone use their pocket pc's as a sip phone? |
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00:50.37 | maskEd | i have troubles with mine, its very very choppy |
00:50.50 | Ariel_ | maskEd, you have a F1000 |
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00:53.35 | maskEd | Ariel_ no, im talking pocket pc |
00:53.50 | maskEd | sjphone specifically |
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00:55.53 | Ariel_ | ahh... I have not tried any softphone on a pocket pc |
00:56.19 | exism | hello |
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00:59.20 | X-Files | Ariel_: what u use version eyebeam ? |
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01:00.06 | Ariel_ | X-Files, I don't I use hint with our polycom phones I told you yesterday I use xlite and don't use any video cams |
01:00.27 | X-Files | :( |
01:01.59 | infinity1 | <PROTECTED> |
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01:03.48 | AlexCTI | hi... I'm looking for a dialer under linux, some one has a good one? |
01:04.13 | AlexCTI | and Asterisk of course..! |
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01:04.58 | maskEd | Ariel_ how do you think the F1000 would stnad up next to the zyxel Prestige 2000W? |
01:05.10 | maskEd | AlexCTI iWar |
01:05.44 | Ariel_ | maskEd, don't know but I have some people say it's harder to setup with asterisk. The new F1000 firmware 3.8 is made for asterisk setups. |
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01:06.08 | Ariel_ | AlexCTI, look at vicidialer |
01:08.00 | maskEd | Ariel_ ok. |
01:08.08 | exism | i'm trying to configure asterisks with the real time extension to receive calls from through SIP from a provider, would someone be interested in helping direct me on how to get things initially working? (i just started a new job and need to learn this system with no one to teach me) |
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01:09.25 | exism | reguardless, should i be able to setup everything for the number in sip.conf? |
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01:12.52 | Zodiacal | anyone know how i can append a string to the CID on incoming calls for a specific trunk? |
01:14.39 | sivana | Zodiacal: Set(CALLERID(name)=A-Sales-${CALLERID(num)}) |
01:15.20 | Zodiacal | sivana Thank You! |
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01:16.56 | Zodiacal | that will append to it, even if cid is unknown? |
01:17.00 | Zodiacal | i hope i hope |
01:17.12 | Zodiacal | it should right.. i'll go try |
01:17.14 | Zodiacal | thanks again |
01:18.43 | sivana | :) |
01:19.28 | sivana | Set(CALLERID(name)=${CALLERID(name)}ThisWillBeAppended) |
01:20.00 | sivana | Set(CALLERID(name)=ThisWillBePrepended${CALLERID(name)}) |
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01:21.51 | sivana | why' |
01:22.43 | exism | i wish i could find some decent decumentation |
01:24.01 | Peggerr | how come the first time I do iax2 reload I see udp packets go by but any consecutive time I run iax2 reload I see nothing? |
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01:37.29 | dijit0 | is midnight commander the best console editor to edit the .conf files? |
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01:40.22 | Camisa | dijit0: I'm looking for a good conf editor too. |
01:40.36 | dijit0 | mc seems to be cool |
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01:40.46 | dijit0 | i just wanna know if theres anything better |
01:41.05 | ke4qqq | dijit0: if you don't mind the learning curve vi |
01:42.34 | dijit0 | i c... lol |
01:43.11 | Camisa | dijito0: nano works great for beginners if you're looking for a fast editor. |
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01:44.11 | ke4qqq | Camisa: I agree, if you don't have the time, or aren't already familiar with vi or emacs, nano is a good way to go, you don't have quite the same capabilities,but if you don't know about them anyway it doesn't do you any good. |
01:44.43 | dijit0 | and nano is something i would need to download extra? |
01:45.38 | Camisa | dijit0: should come stock with your operating syste. |
01:45.57 | dijit0 | i typed nano and nothing happened, lol if thats the command to run it |
01:46.00 | Camisa | ke4qqq: are there any gtk based conf editors? |
01:46.10 | Qwell | gvim |
01:46.12 | exism | how is [general] configured in sip for real time? |
01:46.21 | Qwell | exism: flat file |
01:46.22 | Camisa | ke4qqq: asterisk configuration tools... that are gtk based I mean. |
01:46.38 | Qwell | or you can do realtime static |
01:47.00 | exism | under realtime static what table is it in? |
01:47.16 | Qwell | You tell it which table in extconfig.conf |
01:47.56 | exism | is it the same tables as sipusers? |
01:48.00 | Qwell | no |
01:48.40 | exism | ; sip.conf => mysql, asterisk, sip.conf |
01:48.42 | exism | that's it |
01:48.44 | exism | ? |
01:48.48 | dijit0 | what do you guys use to upload files to a linux box? |
01:48.52 | dijit0 | scp? |
01:49.27 | Camisa | dijit0: most of us use linux as our main box. |
01:49.47 | Camisa | dijit0: my other people use FTP to get them into linux. |
01:49.52 | dijit0 | heh, i wouldnt care either, but i only got one monitor lol |
01:50.09 | dijit0 | and the other computers going to be placed across the house |
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01:50.36 | dijit0 | ftp... hmm, and that can be done in console right? |
01:50.41 | De_Mon | wtf: exten => s,1,MixMonitor(/home/asterisk/$DEPT-${DATETIME:0:8}.gsm|a) |
01:51.01 | De_Mon | It's not using the variable's values! |
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01:53.09 | shredthis | must go TODAY. MESSAGE ME ONLY ON MSN AT MCSLTD2@HOTMAIL.COM, AIM AT OGD443 or YAHOO at MCSLTD2 IF INTERESTED! 1 alienware desktop computer price $550, one alienware area51-m 5700 notebook price $550. prices include sameday shipping, case, wireless router. |
01:53.38 | rob0 | I bid $0.01 |
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01:54.40 | De_Mon | give me a break |
01:54.53 | rene- | hey all, i am faced to work with polycom phones, they are only three of them so i dont think tftp style deployment is justified, the phone in question is a 301 and they wont even try to register (sip debug show nothing) they cant dial either, i have tried to configure them seeing steps for polys 501's, i once got a 301 working but i cant remember what i did and i dont have that phone at hand, help please? |
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01:56.50 | zu | stop spamming shredthis |
01:57.00 | rene- | spam blows |
01:57.16 | Mark_Halverson | do you need zaptel to play moh? |
01:57.25 | rene- | dont think so Mark |
01:57.45 | Mark_Halverson | just loaded 1.2.2 on fedora 4 64bit and it's not playing moh |
01:57.57 | rene- | weird |
01:58.17 | zu | use the nativ moh |
01:58.20 | Mark_Halverson | calls go through...just no moh...i wonder if it's the native mp3 thing....fules are mp3 |
01:58.25 | zu | instead of mpg123 |
01:58.31 | rene- | yeah |
01:58.33 | Mark_Halverson | how? |
01:58.40 | rene- | for mp3 i think you might need an addon |
01:58.50 | rene- | you need to convert to gsm |
01:59.02 | Mark_Halverson | ok...let me try convert |
01:59.24 | De_Mon | soo.. how do I get mixmonitor to use the value of my variables as the filename |
01:59.29 | zu | its in /etc/asterisk/musiconhold.conf |
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01:59.54 | andr3www | hello |
01:59.55 | zu | ${varname} |
02:00.03 | De_Mon | exten => s,1,MixMonitor(/home/asterisk/$DEPT-${DATETIME:0:8}.gsm|a) |
02:00.09 | zu | wrong |
02:00.18 | zu | needs to be ${DEPT} |
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02:00.38 | Qwell | BZZT |
02:00.48 | zu | yay shredthis got klined |
02:01.01 | SplasPood | Asterisk 1.4 is scheduled to be released in the beginning of July, 2006. Aww, for my birthday.. how sweet |
02:01.28 | andr3www | hey I was wondering if it was possible to use Asterisk to route a cellphone call through a house line |
02:01.44 | SplasPood | call forwarding? :) |
02:01.47 | andr3www | so I can get rid of my land line but use the existing wires to handle my cell calls |
02:01.49 | rene- | andrew you buy a thing like a cell socket and then put that in an fxo port |
02:02.32 | andr3www | word, once this semester of university is done and I move out I am so doin this!1 |
02:02.40 | De_Mon | zu should my file be named /home/asterisk/$DEPT-thedate.gsm then? It's not. |
02:02.45 | De_Mon | shouldn't |
02:03.14 | SplasPood | andr3www: Not really, no it can't... There are GSM<->SIP devices |
02:03.24 | SplasPood | And i believe there maybe be CDMA ones as well |
02:03.32 | SplasPood | However I don't think cheap is gonna be the word... |
02:04.12 | andr3www | What if i had a Treo |
02:04.28 | SplasPood | De_Mon: if you want the VALUE of ${DEPT} to be in the filename, then you need to refer to it as ${DEPT} :) |
02:04.30 | rene- | anybody that has installed a poly 301 with asterisk? i cant make the thing to register, i havent tried kicking it but it starts to seem reasonable |
02:04.39 | SplasPood | rene: I have, but I'm tftp all the way. |
02:04.43 | rene- | damm |
02:04.48 | rene- | damn? |
02:05.04 | andr3www | If I could program the Treo to possibly route the call through Bluetooth to the Asterisk server to run the land lane |
02:05.05 | SplasPood | Although I think I originally configured a 600 via the web interface |
02:05.21 | De_Mon | Grrrrrr the variable ${DATETIME:0:8} is correct. when the file saves, the name contains the characters ${DATETIME:0:8} INSTEAD of the date! |
02:05.22 | andr3www | I am new at this |
02:05.39 | SplasPood | andr3www: Some people have investigated that option... check the mailing list, search voip-info.org.. I've seen rumblings in the past |
02:05.59 | SplasPood | De_Mon: oh.. interesting.. |
02:06.30 | dijit0 | feature codes like *67 are things that you gotta write yourself? |
02:06.36 | rene- | andrew there is a cell compatibility list for cell socket device look for your treo in those |
02:06.46 | andr3www | ok thanks |
02:07.00 | andr3www | I am trying to htink of other ways to get rid of land line service but keep the land line for my cell |
02:07.01 | SplasPood | oh yea there is the cellsocket.. |
02:07.11 | SplasPood | I didn't recall them having very broad support tho |
02:07.32 | bkw_ | WTH is this I hear that AGI's must be GPL? |
02:07.41 | SplasPood | AGIs?! |
02:08.03 | bkw_ | Well we had this argument a few months back |
02:08.19 | bkw_ | where the GPL can reach across a socket and bind you to the GPL |
02:08.34 | andr3www | these Cell sockets cost money, my mission is to go free (as in beer) |
02:08.36 | bkw_ | which isn't the case. |
02:08.36 | SplasPood | I hear if you're not careful the GPL will steal your children in the night |
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02:08.56 | SplasPood | andr3www: bluetooth is your only option, and I don't know that it's much of an option at this point |
02:08.57 | bkw_ | just like Woomera can talk to SS7BOX |
02:09.04 | andr3www | what do you mean? |
02:09.10 | De_Mon | the docs say ^ will be unescaped to $ for <command> lets see if it works for filename too |
02:09.35 | rene- | splaspood, it seems wasteful but i will try the mass provisioning route for my problem, what is that polycom uses? a tftp or ftp server? |
02:09.50 | SplasPood | andr3www: if you want it to be free, you need software, and bluetooth is going to be your only connectivity option, and although I've heard people talk about it, I dunno if anything has been written |
02:10.01 | SplasPood | rene: either, actually |
02:10.08 | De_Mon | nope that didnt work |
02:10.28 | De_Mon | saving file: ^{DEPT}-^{DATETIME:0:8}.gsm |
02:10.40 | De_Mon | :( I don't wana recompile something |
02:10.56 | andr3www | ahh I see |
02:11.04 | andr3www | I am down for the challenge in May |
02:11.23 | rene- | that is allright, i remember doing a tftp install for unidens, there was a general txt file and then specific files for each phone named after its mac address, my problem tho is that the dhcp server is not under my control, (is not the same asterisk box) |
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02:12.42 | andr3www | I will have my degree in software engineering, I can give it a shot |
02:12.59 | andr3www | after spending $40,000 I should be able to :p |
02:16.46 | rob0 | naw, after you get the degree you'll be too busy trying to learn what they couldn't teach you in school. :) |
02:17.05 | De_Mon | exten worked.. hrmm I wonder |
02:19.18 | andr3www | All i need is to add Wifi to my Treo and I'm set |
02:23.38 | De_Mon | SplasPood a string that contains a $ without {}'s does not do any variable translation. |
02:25.12 | exism | if you're using real time, do you still need to use sip.conf to register sip extensions? |
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02:26.56 | GD_ | hello... has anybody managed getting an isdn cordless phone to work with hfc cards and asterisk? |
02:27.33 | Peggerr | <PROTECTED> |
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02:30.15 | ke4qqq | hey guys, working on integrating an asterisk box with a legacy pbx, unfortunately it's a really old pbx and doesn't support dtmf reception natively. I have tie lines setup,using pulse dialling and about 50% of the time the call gets routed to the correct place. The other 50% the call gets misrouted or the call doesn't get routed at all. Any thoughts on what can be done from the asterisk side... |
02:30.17 | ke4qqq | ...to help things out? |
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02:37.34 | rene- | the polycom config files named after the mac addy of the phones, do the names need the colons in them or not? |
02:39.08 | X-Files | De_Mon: u can say, what you use version eyebeam ? |
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02:43.25 | Camisa | Which softphone can I use to test my SIP connection? I don't know asterisk configured yet. |
02:44.31 | blitzrage | Camisa: x-lite is a decent softphone |
02:45.48 | Camisa | blitzrage: x-lite's support department answered my my quickly too. except all they said was for me to hit the forums. |
02:45.51 | Peggerr | Camisa, iax is much better and easier |
02:46.03 | Peggerr | Camisa, try kiax out i really like it |
02:46.18 | SplasPood | De_Mon: yes, I know that.. Thats what I was telling you.. |
02:46.25 | Camisa | Peggerr: blitzrage: I have a SIP connection I pay for, and I can make an outgoing call in x-lite and twinkle, but not receive any incoming calls. |
02:46.26 | blitzrage | Peggerr: between iax and sip, there is no better... both have their uses, and IAX isn't perfect |
02:46.39 | blitzrage | Camisa: sounds like a configuration issue |
02:47.05 | Peggerr | blitzrage, well with iax you dont have to keep on poking holes in everyoens firewalls |
02:47.36 | blitzrage | I suppose... but I was just using X-Lite with SIP behind a firewall at a training centre all week with no problems |
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02:49.39 | mrdigital | i see some Linksys WRt54g router flashes to install asterisk on it what purpose does it serve/ |
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02:51.12 | maskEd | what purpose does a stun server have? |
02:52.14 | mrdigital | ? |
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02:53.43 | CyberPony | maskEd, a stun server is used to help in situations where you are behind a NAT |
02:54.41 | Dr-Linux | anybody ever experienced using QueueMetrics ? |
02:56.23 | maskEd | CyberPony ok. |
02:57.02 | mrdigital | CyberPony: what about my question ? :) |
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02:57.52 | maskEd | well im on a lan and dont require one but sjphone is determined to resolve a stun server name even if the field is blank |
02:58.43 | ke4qqq | mrdigital: check the wiki http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+Linksys+WRT54G |
02:58.54 | mrdigital | doesnt really say much |
02:59.27 | maskEd | mrdigital i would see that it could be useful for a home situation |
02:59.47 | mrdigital | its limited im assuming |
02:59.48 | maskEd | as a mini pbx/answering machine for a voip line |
02:59.49 | mrdigital | no pstn ports |
02:59.49 | SplasPood | can someone point me to a list of country codes (dialing) in some format such as csv? |
02:59.56 | ke4qqq | says that the author of the article hasn't gotten anything registered on it....that it doesn't do transcoding well....that it was originally designed for one extension then trunking to a central asterisk server via wireless... |
03:00.03 | *** part/#asterisk rene- (n=root@dsl-201-133-90-176.prod-infinitum.com.mx) |
03:00.09 | maskEd | mrdigital its only capable of processing about 2 simultaneous calls |
03:00.14 | ke4qqq | so kinda a single user built in with wireless pbx |
03:00.24 | mrdigital | ok |
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03:01.18 | maskEd | personally im going to try it as soon as i get a wifi voip phone to replace my current cordless |
03:01.36 | NeonLevel | hi good evening, anyone can show me how to route a call based on callerid? |
03:01.58 | ke4qqq | it does look pretty cool, tho the articles author's results are encouraging |
03:03.34 | Qwell | SplasPood: easiest way is with cid with the pattern, like |
03:03.45 | Qwell | _NXXNXXXXXX/6265551212 |
03:04.20 | NeonLevel | thanks Qwell |
03:04.26 | NeonLevel | checking it out |
03:04.43 | Qwell | weird |
03:04.58 | Qwell | What're the odds of two people asking that within 2 minutes of each other? |
03:05.17 | Qwell | SplasPood: I was... |
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03:05.24 | Qwell | slePP: ! |
03:05.24 | SplasPood | No you weren't... |
03:05.31 | Qwell | umm |
03:05.39 | Qwell | wow, don't eat and type |
03:05.39 | SplasPood | < |
03:05.39 | SplasPood | > |
03:05.43 | Qwell | yeah :p |
03:05.45 | SplasPood | hehe |
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03:06.13 | Qwell | SplasPood: there is a simple to parse list on google |
03:06.25 | Qwell | ~google country codes |
03:06.56 | slePP | oi |
03:07.07 | Qwell | slePP: wtf have you been? :p |
03:07.10 | SplasPood | ya easy enough I suppose.. that was the best one I found |
03:07.20 | Qwell | last I heard, you were off getting married or some such, heh |
03:07.31 | tainted- | why does STUN server insist on an alternate IP? |
03:07.34 | slePP | i've been idling here. :P |
03:07.41 | slePP | tainted-: determine nat type |
03:07.48 | Qwell | slePP: My tunnel stopped working like...6 months ago. :P |
03:07.51 | tainted- | i only have one NIC |
03:07.53 | slePP | who needs tunnels : |
03:07.59 | slePP | tainted-: doesn't mean you can't have more than one IP with one NIC |
03:08.01 | tainted- | and one server |
03:08.10 | tainted- | i only have one IP |
03:08.15 | tainted- | but it's external |
03:08.16 | slePP | ah, see. the last one is the killer |
03:08.17 | slePP | you need two |
03:08.19 | tainted- | shouldn't that be enough? |
03:08.22 | slePP | no |
03:08.28 | slePP | go read about the types of nat, the four basic types |
03:08.34 | slePP | each one behaves differently |
03:08.41 | slePP | so it needs two IPs to determine that behaviour |
03:08.42 | tainted- | so the two IPs have to be on the same server? |
03:08.50 | slePP | Qwell: i have no uplink myself atm |
03:08.54 | Qwell | ahh |
03:09.00 | slePP | Qwell: but we'll get it sorted when i get my new transit back up |
03:09.06 | slePP | tainted-: yes |
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03:10.09 | slePP | Qwell: the old tunnel i went through, their entire colo facility shut down on them |
03:10.12 | slePP | and so i'm SOL |
03:10.24 | Qwell | ouch |
03:11.15 | slePP | yeh |
03:11.17 | slePP | it's bad |
03:11.30 | slePP | tainted-: you'll need to a) get another IP, b) find someone else with two IPs, c) use a public STUN server |
03:12.12 | Juggie | stun is useless |
03:12.43 | Juggie | tainted, why do you need stun? |
03:12.48 | NeonLevel | is there anyway, to tell asterisk to keep with the dial plan even if the call has hangup? |
03:13.00 | Qwell | NeonLevel: caller or callee? |
03:13.19 | Juggie | NeonLevel, yes. did you look @ the documentation for app dial? |
03:13.30 | NeonLevel | Qwell caller |
03:13.35 | Qwell | h exten |
03:13.54 | NeonLevel | i see h exten! |
03:14.00 | NeonLevel | let me try that! |
03:14.14 | NeonLevel | and how about? the callee? |
03:14.19 | NeonLevel | is that possible too? |
03:14.28 | slePP | yes, stun is useless |
03:14.32 | Qwell | there is an option to Dial() as Juggie said |
03:14.40 | NeonLevel | thank you both! |
03:14.41 | Juggie | neon, it depends on what you want to do |
03:14.44 | slePP | Dial(1234,,g) |
03:14.45 | Juggie | you should use the h extension |
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03:14.52 | Juggie | you should not be using g |
03:14.53 | NeonLevel | i see... |
03:15.00 | slePP | what's wrong with 'g'? |
03:15.08 | slePP | it's non-global behaviour vs. global behaviour |
03:15.24 | Juggie | nothing, but its much 'nicer' to trap a hangup in the hangup context |
03:15.40 | Juggie | there are other reasons why the next step after the dial could be run |
03:15.42 | Juggie | that wont be a hangup |
03:15.55 | Juggie | so rather then having to check conditions in there, it would be easier to run in the h exten |
03:16.13 | X-Files | ppls, have eyebeam version 3010z ? |
03:16.27 | slePP | Juggie: depends on purpose. g is often more useful |
03:16.44 | slePP | and it doesn't mangle your CDRs quite as easily |
03:16.52 | Juggie | slepp, what if the dial fails |
03:17.01 | Juggie | you have to check the condition then |
03:17.52 | slePP | that's the idea. |
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03:18.16 | slePP | most people do that in 'h' anyway |
03:19.40 | [av]bani | http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/stardust/multimedia/jsc2006e01008.html |
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03:23.14 | ravsi | this really isn't a technical question, but is there a list of vonage type providers that work with asterisk? I have googled a bit I can find one that works WITH * |
03:23.40 | ravsi | I am going to move a buisness over to VoIP |
03:24.04 | ravsi | but I can't find any one that works with somthing other than there own software |
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03:25.55 | file | slePP! |
03:26.03 | mrdigital | ravsi: i can help you |
03:26.51 | riddlebox | when using the GET DATA feature in AGI does it send the dtmf as 1234? |
03:27.01 | slePP | file! |
03:27.27 | file | what'cha been up to? |
03:28.33 | Camisa | How do I know if I'm behind a full cone / restricted cone / port restricted cone or symmectric NAT? |
03:28.46 | slePP | file: uhm. working like mad? |
03:28.52 | slePP | got our new switch in production, crap like that |
03:28.58 | slePP | Camisa: use a stun client to find out |
03:29.13 | ravsi | I am amazed at how hard its been to find company that allows other than there own stuff |
03:29.18 | Camisa | slePP: I downloaded the one from sourceforge. I ran make on it, and don't know howto use it. |
03:29.26 | slePP | ravsi: there are a lot of reasons to not allow random things onto the network |
03:29.38 | slePP | Camisa: ./client stun.server.address |
03:29.40 | slePP | i think is about it |
03:30.24 | xachen | Intellodesk is still too much in beta :( |
03:30.27 | ravsi | are the majority of * users hooking up to analog T1's? |
03:30.52 | slePP | yes, or pstn, or to other smaller carriers |
03:30.57 | Camisa | slePP: thanks. I wonder what my stun server address is. I have the domain/realm IP address, and I have my "nat aware proxy address" on port 5060... how do I know what the stun server address is from my SIP provider? |
03:31.11 | slePP | vonage is big, they need a controlled network. other companies are small, and can afford the resources to maintain multiple client types |
03:31.27 | slePP | Camisa: do they even have one? a lot don't |
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03:31.57 | slePP | Camisa: try stun.sip.netmonks.ca |
03:31.58 | ravsi | well, isn't it just SIP? |
03:32.06 | slePP | ravsi: in a perfect world.. |
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03:32.22 | ravsi | slePP: lame :( |
03:32.28 | slePP | asterisk's sip is a bit of a mess, and so it can be harder to support |
03:32.39 | slePP | plus it's not controllable.. anything could happenw ith it and there are liability issues |
03:32.51 | slePP | so, at the end of the day, mass market voip is not targetting the home grown users |
03:33.02 | slePP | what services are you looking for from a carrier? |
03:33.43 | Camisa | slePP: STUN client version 0.96.... it says "Return value is 0x000015"... Primary: Independedt Mapping, Address Dependent Filter, preserves port, no hairpin... |
03:34.03 | ravsi | hypothetical... if I was a major fortune 500 and wanted to go to VoIP, what would be my options? |
03:34.21 | ravsi | I always hear about how great it is |
03:34.21 | slePP | Camisa: anything else? |
03:34.29 | katakefalos | hi all, i have a TDM400 and i just installed a 4th module is there anything i have to do because it does not seem to regognize it it just comes up with 3, i did modprobe wctdm and ztcfg...? |
03:34.32 | ravsi | but I have yet to see a real application |
03:34.42 | slePP | ravsi: it depends on what you want to do. fortune 500 is probably better off getting their own switch for $200k and being done with it |
03:35.25 | ravsi | what is asterisk's standard protocol? |
03:36.01 | slePP | iax2 is asterisk's pride and joy |
03:36.39 | xachen | although it is buggy :P |
03:36.56 | ravsi | and that switch goes to t1's and the like |
03:37.12 | ravsi | analog t1's |
03:38.07 | ravsi | I mean, the big reason they hype VoIP is the cost savings |
03:38.33 | ravsi | but if at the end of the day your still dealing with the local telco whats the point? |
03:38.36 | katakefalos | anyone help on this one?: hi all, i have a TDM400 and i just installed a 4th module is there anything i have to do because it does not seem to regognize it it just comes up with 3, i did modprobe wctdm and ztcfg...? |
03:39.21 | slePP | ravsi: DS3s, if you're fortune 500, but yes.. TDM |
03:39.40 | slePP | ravsi: simple math here... a company we have as a customer, has 4 branches |
03:39.42 | slePP | all across canada/US |
03:39.44 | [TK]D-Fender | ravenpi : Its a question about the price of PBX hardware <- My company saved $25k because of * and got a more functional system out of it. |
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03:39.49 | slePP | they have 25 combined phone lines from the local telco |
03:39.53 | slePP | it costs them $65/line |
03:40.09 | slePP | and eah branch only gets X number of lines to use, and some don't need as many as others most days, but some days need more than they have |
03:40.15 | slePP | so.. they invest in a simple, single location T1 |
03:40.33 | slePP | for about $3k, add on a T1 for about $600/month, and they already have private IP link sbetween all the branches on a managed backbone |
03:40.54 | slePP | so. instead of shelling out $65 x 25, they get $600 for 23/24 lines, and capacity "on tap" at each branch |
03:40.57 | slePP | plus inter-branch calling, etc. |
03:41.18 | slePP | they also can now use all sorts of other features like mobile workers and so on |
03:42.24 | ravsi | btw, I realllllly apreciate you answering my questions |
03:42.53 | slePP | voip isn't just asterisk & ivr's |
03:43.01 | slePP | it has a lot of real applications that have nothing to do with the things asterisk is capable of |
03:43.19 | slePP | just a simple branch->branch trunk over tiny little SIP gateways can make hundreds to thousands of dollars/month of difference to a company |
03:43.24 | slePP | for a very very small initial investment |
03:43.41 | slePP | when you get to be big, and have hundreds of phone lines. you get a DS3 and a DS3 switch |
03:43.52 | slePP | or you go with like Level(3) and they do all your TDM<->VoIP over private connections |
03:44.00 | slePP | for a price, of course, but in theory, less than what you'd pay each local telco |
03:44.05 | ravsi | TDM? |
03:44.11 | Camisa | slePP: this is what I get. http://pastebin.com/515620 |
03:44.38 | slePP | use pastebin.ca, it's neater (shameless plug) |
03:44.49 | slePP | who uses pastebin.ca, btw? |
03:44.51 | [TK]D-Fender | Sangoma A200's listed at www.voipsupply.com :D |
03:45.03 | slePP | ravsi: uhm.. T1s, PRIs, E1s, DS3s, etc.. that's TDM. |
03:45.07 | slePP | it's digital telephone stuff |
03:45.11 | pifiu-laptop | sleep interesting info you're putting out |
03:45.19 | [TK]D-Fender | slePP : I do. its neater in one way, but the .COM one auto-loads after updating |
03:45.30 | pifiu-laptop | i use pastebin |
03:45.34 | slePP | uhm. pastebin.ca also autoloads? |
03:45.38 | slePP | after about 8 seconds |
03:45.41 | slePP | but! |
03:45.44 | slePP | new version :> in the works |
03:45.50 | slePP | it's. cooler |
03:45.54 | slePP | and about 15 times faster |
03:46.19 | pifiu-laptop | ok good to hear |
03:46.27 | file | slePP: your IPv6 address for pastebin.ca doesn't work btw |
03:46.31 | slePP | i know! |
03:46.35 | slePP | i lost my ipv6 uplink about 4 weeks ago |
03:46.43 | slePP | and they're .. screwing the pooch in getting me back up |
03:47.26 | pifiu-laptop | sleep can you explain the setup your company has again? |
03:47.30 | slePP | uhm |
03:47.31 | ravsi | ok so if I am switching a smaller company the gains are going to be on the hardware and the features and less so on the long distance costs(outside of branch offices) and local call cost |
03:47.33 | slePP | it's a bit different, but.. |
03:47.39 | pifiu-laptop | 1 t1 for 3k? |
03:47.41 | slePP | we have a big softswitch, which has some DS3s plugged into it |
03:47.57 | slePP | and then we have about 8 servers behind that with asterisk/ser/openser/custom apps/etc. to do services |
03:48.15 | slePP | ravsi: again, it all depends on what they want to do |
03:48.20 | *** part/#asterisk NeonLevel (i=HydraIRC@cable06mcg.cybercable.net.mx) |
03:48.33 | slePP | pifiu-laptop: well.. you get your T1 for whatever price you get your t1 for. from what i understand, in the states, it's _cheap_ |
03:48.41 | slePP | up here in canada, it's about $600-$800/month for a single PRI |
03:48.49 | dijit0 | as far as feature codes go, do i have to make my own? ex. like *67 and stuff?? |
03:48.57 | pifiu-laptop | right but what was the initial 3k investment on? |
03:49.03 | slePP | but then you get some sort of gateway to work with that. so it could be like a vega 400, or an asterisk box w/ a sangoma or digium T1 controller, or various other things |
03:49.07 | slePP | all of which cost about $3k to build |
03:49.19 | pifiu-laptop | oh gotcha |
03:49.23 | pifiu-laptop | and you said you have 4 branches? |
03:49.26 | pifiu-laptop | and each brand has a t1? |
03:49.30 | slePP | dijit0: some of them yes, some of them no. depends on your end-devices |
03:49.35 | pifiu-laptop | so 23 lines each location? |
03:49.36 | slePP | pap2's, for example, do almost all the *xx's internally |
03:49.38 | slePP | polycom's don't |
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03:49.53 | slePP | pifiu-laptop: PRI has 23, CAS/RBS T1 has 24.. |
03:50.00 | slePP | for reference, i'm a carrier, not the customer i was talking about :> |
03:50.04 | dijit0 | ahh i c.. thx.. and these are a part of extensions.conf as well? |
03:50.06 | slePP | but their setup is one T1 in one city |
03:50.14 | pifiu-laptop | whats the difference? |
03:50.16 | slePP | so 23 lines in one location |
03:50.21 | slePP | all shared from 4 cities |
03:50.27 | slePP | vs PRI and CAS? |
03:50.28 | ravsi | slepp: we are looking to replace a old office phone system and voice mail for 2 offices and about 25 lines |
03:50.38 | slePP | one has a d-channel, one doesn't. one supports more features than the other, at the loss of a channel |
03:50.42 | pifiu-laptop | right pri vs cas? |
03:50.52 | [TK]D-Fender | PRI > CAS |
03:51.03 | pifiu-laptop | what is a d channel? |
03:51.08 | slePP | ravsi: then voip makes sense, because the intiial hardware investment is cheaper or the same as new hardware PBX/KSU, and at the same time, opens up the world to new possibilities of building a phone system the way _you_ want it |
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03:51.20 | slePP | instead of a $10,000 feature on a hardware PBX for music on hold/queueing, you can use asterisk for cheap |
03:51.31 | slePP | pifiu-laptop: on a PRI, the d-channel is what is used to setup/end calls |
03:51.37 | ravsi | right |
03:51.39 | slePP | it sends signals between your equipment and the telco to do it |
03:51.48 | pifiu-laptop | as oposed to? |
03:51.52 | pifiu-laptop | interesting never messed with a t1 |
03:52.07 | ravsi | I shouldn't really expect any real gains on the local phone bills though |
03:52.07 | slePP | well, with a T1, you have 24 channels at 64kbps |
03:52.21 | slePP | with a PRI, you get 23 clear-channels (B channels) which carry nothing but audio |
03:52.28 | slePP | and one channel that carries nothing but data |
03:52.38 | slePP | with CAS, you get 24 channels that steal bits of the 64kbps to do signalling |
03:52.40 | pifiu-laptop | 64kbps though |
03:52.46 | slePP | so when you do a call, it sends the signal over a specific channel, like channel 7 |
03:52.52 | slePP | then maybe channel 4. etc. whatever channel it's going to use |
03:53.11 | slePP | ravsi: not usually, no |
03:53.19 | ravsi | this has all been very informative |
03:53.24 | slePP | ravsi: but again, it may be cheaper if you can get away with simpler/cheaper lines because of some other features somewhere |
03:53.34 | slePP | like i could sell a company 20 lines for about $300/month |
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03:53.40 | slePP | pure voip |
03:53.56 | slePP | which is much cheaper than the local telco, which would run them about $1200 |
03:54.05 | ravsi | right |
03:54.13 | ravsi | but you don't provide for 626 numbers :) |
03:54.21 | slePP | nah |
03:54.25 | slePP | check out didx.org :> |
03:54.35 | Qwell | ravenpi: Where you at? |
03:54.39 | slePP | they're a 3rd party broker for DIDs |
03:54.39 | ravsi | cali |
03:54.46 | Qwell | yes, duh |
03:54.47 | X-Files | Please, say me good soft where worked Message, Online Status Line in users and Voice . Please |
03:54.49 | Qwell | 626...where? |
03:54.54 | ravsi | Los angeles |
03:54.55 | [TK]D-Fender | slePP : having just quoted a PRI +/- $600/$800 mth, thats hardly $1200 :) |
03:55.04 | slePP | [TK]D-Fender: analogs |
03:55.05 | Qwell | ravsi: yes, WHERE? :P |
03:55.08 | slePP | aren't the same as a PRI |
03:55.11 | ravsi | Arcadia |
03:55.16 | ravsi | and Glendora |
03:55.17 | slePP | in this case, centrex analogs |
03:55.35 | slePP | :> |
03:55.40 | [TK]D-Fender | slePP : I gues business analog lines @ 35$ tops. 20 lines = $700..... |
03:55.42 | slePP | we migrate loads of centrex people away from stuff |
03:55.46 | ravsi | $300 for 20 lines would represent a sweeeet deal over current prices |
03:55.51 | slePP | [TK]D-Fender: not here, no |
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03:55.55 | slePP | they average $65 a pop |
03:55.57 | [TK]D-Fender | slePP : Where? |
03:56.00 | slePP | edmonton |
03:56.17 | [TK]D-Fender | You're kidding.. that major metropolitain area... |
03:56.27 | slePP | welcome to edmonton :> |
03:56.28 | [TK]D-Fender | Who runs that shit, telus? |
03:56.33 | slePP | centrex w/ direct dial is expensive |
03:56.34 | slePP | yes, telus |
03:56.39 | slePP | pbx style hunt groups are not so bad |
03:56.43 | [TK]D-Fender | Fuckers... I hear the suck out west... |
03:56.46 | slePP | they're evil |
03:56.50 | slePP | there's a reason we move so many |
03:57.11 | pifiu-laptop | qwell i got IAX2 working |
03:57.14 | pifiu-laptop | wohooooo |
03:57.15 | [TK]D-Fender | slePP : Then again your cost of living and tax rate are pretty nice... |
03:57.29 | slePP | cost of living here is cheap, except downtown core in buildings own by boardwalk (ew) |
03:57.33 | slePP | and yes, no PST is good |
03:57.39 | slePP | provincial taxes in general aren't too bad |
03:57.45 | slePP | gas is cheap :> |
03:57.53 | slePP | but, data & tdm aren't |
03:58.02 | [TK]D-Fender | Oh well... |
03:58.05 | slePP | we pay about $4/gb for bandwidth, or $250/sustained mbit |
03:58.08 | slePP | depending on carrier |
03:58.28 | [TK]D-Fender | slePP : Whats the base included BW? |
03:58.29 | slePP | and the DS3s each cost about $12k/month + $2k/month for the SS7 trunks |
03:58.36 | slePP | based included? are you crazy? :> |
03:58.37 | ke4qqq | hey guys, working on integrating an asterisk box with a legacy pbx, unfortunately it's a really old pbx and doesn't support dtmf reception natively. I have tie lines setup,using pulse dialling and about 50% of the time the call gets routed to the correct place. The other 50% the call gets misrouted or the call doesn't get routed at all. Any thoughts on what can be done from the asterisk side... |
03:58.39 | ke4qqq | ...to help things out? |
03:58.42 | konfuzed | slePP: gas is cheap in edmonton - i suppose you mean relatively like 5cents less or something |
03:58.54 | slePP | konfuzed: at times, 10s of cents less |
03:59.03 | slePP | when all the prices went to like $1.20 and stuff, it was just over a dollar here at the same time |
03:59.08 | slePP | right now, it's 79 or 82 or something |
03:59.15 | ravsi | didx would be great if there was someone selling in my area |
03:59.21 | slePP | ravsi: thus the problem, then |
03:59.35 | [TK]D-Fender | konfuzed : Try Quebec's tax-cut on that... as soon as you cross tot he 401 is drops 10% |
03:59.46 | slePP | [TK]D-Fender: we pay about $2/gb for our commited bandwidth, and a bit more for overage |
04:00.02 | slePP | but only on the per-gb peer. the other upstream is $450 for the wire, and $250/mbit |
04:00.06 | konfuzed | ah i dont pay fopr gas any way. |
04:00.10 | slePP | then our fibre is about $1700/month |
04:00.13 | ravsi | so the idea of that is that somes sets up a server, plugs in a tonne of t1's or ds3's then resells them over the net |
04:00.16 | konfuzed | I was just in montreal last week and it was crazy |
04:00.18 | [TK]D-Fender | slePP : That blows. |
04:00.19 | slePP | for a 2 mile layer 2 |
04:00.21 | slePP | it does |
04:00.40 | slePP | ravsi: of didx? or someone with 4 channels sells one number. whatever, basically |
04:00.47 | slePP | we have 12 numbers for sale on didx, just for "fun" |
04:00.59 | ravsi | and they can offer lower costs becuase they bought in bulk? |
04:01.04 | slePP | but we have a lot more numbres we could sell than that |
04:01.11 | slePP | who, didx or the person selling it? |
04:01.17 | slePP | the seller picks the price, didx is just a broker. like ebay :> |
04:01.30 | *** join/#asterisk Naturalblue (n=Kay@195.26.12.229) |
04:01.32 | slePP | they're a pure middle man |
04:01.59 | [TK]D-Fender | I'm abusing my work setup so I have PRI + 1 at home effectively :D |
04:02.09 | slePP | heh |
04:02.19 | ravsi | and your able to offer a lower cost becuase you buy in bulk |
04:02.21 | slePP | it's fun |
04:02.24 | slePP | ravsi: yes |
04:02.31 | slePP | because our connections get cheaper the larger it goes |
04:02.44 | *** part/#asterisk College (n=ben@adsl-34-44.swiftdsl.com.au) |
04:02.44 | slePP | 28 T1s will cost, in theory, more than a single DS3 |
04:02.45 | [TK]D-Fender | if I didn't need my a voice phone-line for DSL I'd be dry-loop maybe direct off of the PRI or redirected. |
04:02.46 | konfuzed | if ya go to montreal - do not bother stopping at Shwart's Deli |
04:02.55 | slePP | buying 1000 numbers at a time is a lot cheaper than 10 at a time |
04:02.56 | [TK]D-Fender | Can you really own a DID and point it to any service you want? |
04:03.00 | X-Files | Please say me , need soft phone for windows, where worked Message, Status Line users (busy/offline/online) and Voice ? |
04:03.08 | [TK]D-Fender | konfuzed : Smoke Meat Pete's <- |
04:03.13 | slePP | [TK]D-Fender: the CRTC is a bit "fuzzy" on that |
04:03.14 | [TK]D-Fender | konfuzed : Godly... |
04:03.28 | konfuzed | [TK]D-Fender: ahh thats what I needed |
04:03.41 | [TK]D-Fender | slePP : Yeah I've been following the coalitions efforts against it... |
04:03.42 | slePP | X-Files: x-ten pro or eyebeam |
04:03.55 | slePP | afaik, that coalition is a client |
04:04.16 | [TK]D-Fender | slePP : A bunch of ISP's |
04:04.19 | X-Files | slePP: eyebeam not worked status users and message , i how tested |
04:04.26 | slePP | X-Files: not sure, then |
04:04.35 | slePP | [TK]D-Fender: which coalition? |
04:04.44 | slePP | there's one that was started in edmonton |
04:04.48 | [TK]D-Fender | X-Files : So you added ext's as "buddies" and it won't show their status? |
04:05.10 | slePP | 'MyBuddies'.. |
04:05.17 | X-Files | [TK]D-Fender: offline |
04:05.45 | X-Files | i use for test version eyebeam 3010n |
04:06.33 | [TK]D-Fender | slePP : http://www.quebecispcoalition.ca/pressrelease05.html |
04:06.34 | slePP | anyone know of a decent b2bua, btw? |
04:06.39 | slePP | ah, not that one |
04:06.48 | [TK]D-Fender | slePP : What wrong with that? |
04:07.01 | [TK]D-Fender | X-Files : Pastebin your dialplan |
04:07.12 | slePP | no, not the coalition i was thinking about, i mean |
04:07.16 | ravsi | I gotta find someone in my area that has a underused ds3 |
04:07.18 | *** join/#asterisk JMcA (n=jmcadams@71.31.33.169) |
04:07.28 | slePP | telus is giving out raw DSL now |
04:07.31 | [TK]D-Fender | slePP : same ruling I think will cover canada as a whole |
04:07.37 | ravsi | :) |
04:07.39 | slePP | but we still can't get them to give us copper loop at regular copper loop pricing |
04:07.42 | slePP | they want hundreds per loop |
04:07.43 | [TK]D-Fender | slePP : Then again given your rates... hmmm |
04:07.45 | X-Files | wait |
04:07.46 | konfuzed | ravsi whats your area |
04:08.14 | slePP | ravsi: heh. those're the best. call up some big company, and go get their DS3s :> |
04:08.26 | konfuzed | slePP is that raw dsl like Naked DSL |
04:08.42 | slePP | sure, let's call it 'naked' |
04:08.44 | ravsi | konfuzed: 626 Los Angeles |
04:08.54 | slePP | but dsl w/out dialtone, as it were |
04:09.00 | slePP | but it's stupidly expensive |
04:09.02 | konfuzed | oh well here in toronto its known as Naked DSL |
04:09.03 | Qwell | slePP: yeah, we call that naked dsl |
04:09.06 | slePP | for like $10 more, you get dialtone |
04:09.24 | BeHappy_ | uhm.. there's a way i can send an Unauthorized error at INVITE from a sip user that has not REGISTERed with my asterisk? |
04:09.27 | [TK]D-Fender | slePP : At Bells band-rate system yeah... |
04:09.27 | slePP | that's probably because you're all weird easterners |
04:09.30 | konfuzed | I should be able to setup naked dsl oncopper without phone service, just about anywhere in canada |
04:09.50 | X-Files | [TK]D-Fender: http://pastebin.ca/37698 <<- sip.conf and extensions.conf |
04:09.52 | slePP | BeHappy_: if you don't have a 'guest' sort of sip user, it will do that by default |
04:10.07 | slePP | out here, we have a few customers we provide RADSL to |
04:10.10 | konfuzed | good for voip and such ;^) |
04:10.15 | slePP | and it costs us about $15/month for the copper "alarm loops" |
04:10.19 | slePP | but they won't sell us those anymore |
04:10.22 | BeHappy_ | slePP, what do you mean with 'guest' sip user? |
04:10.29 | *** join/#asterisk Mag1KaL (n=Mag1KaL@S010600112f0d62ac.wp.shawcable.net) |
04:10.30 | BeHappy_ | slePP, a sip user with no secret? |
04:10.30 | slePP | BeHappy_: check sip.conf for a [guest] entry |
04:10.33 | slePP | yes |
04:10.35 | slePP | and no host |
04:10.36 | slePP | etc. |
04:10.50 | slePP | konfuzed: most of our customers are pulling fiber to our data center. that's fun :> |
04:10.59 | slePP | but, we don't have a lot of little customers either. |
04:11.22 | konfuzed | thats fun and probably over kill but hey |
04:11.24 | [TK]D-Fender | X-Files : You shouldn't need the seperate subscribe context, and bring the hints into the main. |
04:11.27 | slePP | not overkill, no |
04:11.32 | konfuzed | maybe there is no infrastructure in edmonton yet |
04:11.33 | slePP | but it's fun |
04:11.43 | ravsi | slepp and all: thanks agian you have been most helpfull |
04:11.49 | BeHappy_ | i have one user with username but without secret |
04:11.53 | slePP | konfuzed: that's probably correct |
04:12.01 | slePP | like i said, a 2 mile fibre run is $1700/month or whatever |
04:12.11 | slePP | though we have 18 strands of that crap. heh |
04:12.20 | X-Files | [TK]D-Fender: check line 46-48 not this / |
04:12.21 | X-Files | ? |
04:12.30 | konfuzed | so your pulling howmuch bandwidth on that fiber? |
04:12.30 | slePP | BeHappy_: check what asterisk thinks the sip caller is doing.. |
04:12.32 | BeHappy_ | and one user with no username but host=ip |
04:12.43 | slePP | konfuzed: anywhere between 1.5mbit to 100mbit, depending on peer |
04:12.51 | slePP | but only 3 strands are lit right now |
04:13.01 | konfuzed | llllike burstable? |
04:13.12 | slePP | sustained 100mbit on two, 1.5 burstable to 10 on one |
04:13.16 | slePP | then we have our internet uplinks |
04:13.35 | konfuzed | fiber for less than 5MB is ludicrous (unless it is last option cause no other infrastructure and wireless would not do |
04:13.47 | slePP | that's pretty much exactly it |
04:13.51 | konfuzed | not that im picky about bang for your buck ;^) |
04:13.56 | slePP | when it has to work, and be solid, fibre it is |
04:14.02 | slePP | we don't pay for it :> |
04:14.04 | slePP | just our own core fibre |
04:14.12 | slePP | the customer pays their own connectivity |
04:14.17 | konfuzed | oh well thats different can t beat free firber |
04:14.27 | slePP | well, it's not like we can use it for anyuthing :> |
04:14.28 | slePP | just voip |
04:14.29 | [TK]D-Fender | X-Files : http://pastebin.ca/37753 |
04:14.32 | slePP | and that's from them to us |
04:15.12 | X-Files | [TK]D-Fender: ok wait.. |
04:15.42 | konfuzed | 4 load balanced 3Mb adsl is better than a 10Mb fiber cause of redundant links |
04:15.54 | konfuzed | and less than half the price |
04:16.01 | konfuzed | just when im havin fun that is ;^) |
04:16.05 | Mag1KaL | What's the best software phone right now? |
04:16.07 | slePP | the internet is our redundant link |
04:16.22 | [TK]D-Fender | Mag1KaL : eyeBeam |
04:16.23 | slePP | we bgp to the peers and we're multihomed ourselves across two DC's |
04:16.33 | slePP | and most of the customers we have are ISPs or ISP related :> works out nicely |
04:16.37 | dijit0 | is there a simple dial plan command that i can use to authenticate users from a voicemail pass? |
04:16.42 | konfuzed | ok i recognize each customer plot unto its own conundrums and priorities ;^) |
04:16.48 | troyb | slePP what is your ASN? |
04:16.54 | slePP | 14595 |
04:16.59 | troyb | *grin* |
04:17.23 | slePP | konfuzed: customers are crazy |
04:17.36 | konfuzed | slePP: so how did you end up with internet from shaw cable then?? |
04:17.45 | slePP | look at our path :> |
04:17.55 | troyb | slePP fixedorbit isnt picking it up, i'll have to open a session to a router |
04:18.16 | slePP | route-views.org |
04:18.21 | slePP | 13911 and 15290 are direct upstreams |
04:18.23 | X-Files | [TK]D-Fender: i replace files from site, restart asterisk and 2 eyebeam , this same problem, i can't see status :( |
04:18.30 | slePP | 13911 peers directly to 852 and 6327 |
04:18.52 | slePP | and 15290 is a peering whore |
04:19.01 | konfuzed | slePP: got a site I can look at with your hobby projects ;^) |
04:19.08 | troyb | slePP yeah that is one of my sources :) |
04:19.17 | slePP | konfuzed: netmonks.ca, geeksanon.ca.. pretty much those |
04:19.25 | slePP | pastebin.ca is of course a pet project |
04:19.39 | [TK]D-Fender | dijit0 : VMAuthenticate |
04:19.46 | troyb | slePP i like to play with the Juniper box |
04:19.50 | slePP | who doesn't :> |
04:19.54 | troyb | slePP peering shouldnt result in an AS announcements |
04:19.56 | [TK]D-Fender | dijit0 : Try checking the WIKI for things like that.... |
04:20.02 | slePP | troyb: it doesn't |
04:20.06 | dijit0 | i checked asteriskguru.com |
04:20.08 | troyb | there should simply be a static route between the party(s) |
04:20.11 | slePP | 15290 and 13911 are upstream transit |
04:20.19 | [TK]D-Fender | dijit0 : WIKI <- |
04:20.28 | slePP | but we bgp to our non-transit peers and advertise up to a /28 and accept up to a /28 |
04:20.34 | slePP | with some very agressive timers |
04:20.40 | dijit0 | ok thanks |
04:20.42 | slePP | with no-export, of course. :> |
04:20.46 | Mag1KaL | What's the best open source software phone right now? ;) |
04:20.59 | troyb | slePP i didnt think most carriers were able to route less then a /24 |
04:21.02 | X-Files | [TK]D-Fender: in 2 eyebeam configured Presence mode peer-to-peer |
04:21.11 | troyb | a /28 is like 16 IP's |
04:21.18 | slePP | yes it is |
04:21.19 | [TK]D-Fender | X-Files : You did a reload and nothing? |
04:21.41 | slePP | some of our stuff there is good reason for a more specific, due to MED and so on |
04:21.55 | X-Files | [TK]D-Fender: yes ;( |
04:22.03 | slePP | and since the private peers are supposed to be pure voip, we keep certain ranges full of web servers off the link |
04:22.12 | JMcA | I've never understood the obsession that most carriers have with prefix length |
04:22.19 | [TK]D-Fender | X-Files : Pastebing a "sip show hints" from CLI |
04:22.19 | troyb | slePP with most peering xchanges they use internal IP |
04:22.23 | slePP | we have a peering agreement to our peers to advertise/receive longer than /24's, but we only advertise /24's to the world (one /24, at that) |
04:22.24 | X-Files | ok |
04:22.36 | slePP | troyb: the last thing i want is private IPs in backbone voip :> |
04:22.39 | troyb | jeez a provider with a C class eh? :) |
04:22.46 | X-Files | [TK]D-Fender: mabye "show hints" ? |
04:22.55 | slePP | our other ranges are aggregate inside our upstreams |
04:23.21 | X-Files | [TK]D-Fender: http://pastebin.ca/37756 |
04:23.24 | troyb | oh i see so its not Direct Allocation? |
04:23.32 | [TK]D-Fender | X-Files : yes that |
04:23.45 | konfuzed | slePP: is there anyone providing DID from that edmonton datacenter |
04:24.01 | [TK]D-Fender | X-Files : And what do you have in eyebeam for buddies to watch? |
04:24.04 | tronix | slePP: btw if needed, telnet route-server.gblx.net (open to public) |
04:24.18 | troyb | slePP mind if i route you a /32 172.16.0.0 ;) |
04:25.18 | slePP | troyb: the /24 we advertise isn't from arin, no |
04:25.30 | slePP | i already have a /32 172.16.x.x :P why do i want more? |
04:25.36 | X-Files | [TK]D-Fender: one pc have contact 14@ip_asterisk and other pc have contact 13@ip_asterisk ... |
04:25.41 | Qwell | a /32? |
04:25.49 | slePP | konfuzed: anyone provided DID from that data center? hmm? |
04:25.50 | troyb | slePP your a hard customer :P how about 10.0.0.0 :) |
04:25.56 | [TK]D-Fender | X-Files : get rid of the suffix, it should only be 13 & 14 |
04:26.03 | slePP | i'll let you send me 10.8.3.48/32.. deal? |
04:26.14 | troyb | slePP sounds like a plan :) |
04:26.22 | Qwell | slePP: make him provide his own nm + brd :p |
04:26.23 | X-Files | ok wait |
04:26.24 | slePP | konfuzed: are you asking if i can give you edmonton DIDs? :P |
04:26.29 | [TK]D-Fender | I'm considering getting a /29 or so for my home LAN.... |
04:26.31 | troyb | slePP what happens when i need 1 more iP? |
04:26.42 | troyb | *if |
04:26.44 | slePP | troyb: i'll give you 192.168.89.44/32 |
04:26.46 | Qwell | troyb: better ask for a /29 :p |
04:26.59 | troyb | Qwell yeah, i need the spares for my BBS |
04:27.01 | Qwell | [TK]D-Fender: I had /29's on my LAN |
04:27.05 | slePP | i hate nat |
04:27.09 | Qwell | each box was it's own NAT, heh |
04:27.13 | troyb | slePP no kidding :) |
04:27.23 | troyb | Rogers gives me 1 IP but im sure i could 'get' more |
04:27.27 | slePP | so i'm very tempted to take our new class c allocation and give myself some over a tunnel :> |
04:27.33 | slePP | shaw gives me two |
04:27.34 | JMcA | nat is evil |
04:27.36 | konfuzed | slePP: not precisely - nothing I saw suggested you provided them yourself - so I would look into any DID provider out of that datacenter |
04:27.55 | X-Files | [TK]D-Fender: i remove @ip_asterisk and press save, but @ip_asterisk restored ;( |
04:28.03 | konfuzed | im rather disappointed at the lack of support from my current DID provider |
04:28.09 | slePP | konfuzed: oh :> yes, we do. we provide to calgary, edmonton, vancouver and toronto right now |
04:28.13 | JMcA | I spent pretty much all day trying to get some of our customers to understand why I didn't want to route 1918 space over VPN's to/from them |
04:28.15 | slePP | with 29 other centers coming on as needed |
04:28.16 | troyb | slePP i wonder what would happen if you created a second advertisement for a /32 |
04:28.29 | [TK]D-Fender | X-Files : Are you sure presence support is enabled in eyebeam? |
04:28.30 | slePP | troyb: to the public? both upstreams would filter it immediately |
04:28.41 | slePP | but my peers may not. i don't think they setup very good filters |
04:28.42 | troyb | yeah it wouldnt have a fighting chance |
04:28.45 | slePP | they sent me shitloads of bad routes early on |
04:28.57 | X-Files | [TK]D-Fender: Yes, i turn "Peer-to-Peer" . |
04:29.00 | slePP | not to mention my own filters would drop the /32 unless i added it to the prefix lists.. :> |
04:29.15 | [TK]D-Fender | X-Files : Don't think that is the way... |
04:29.24 | konfuzed | slePP: then have you got a site I can look with info about DID availability and rates |
04:29.35 | slePP | well, depends on how much info you want |
04:29.36 | X-Files | [TK]D-Fender: your version eyebeam ? |
04:29.41 | slePP | www.thinktel.ca |
04:30.46 | X-Files | [TK]D-Fender: i can put to pastebin debug from asterisk , pc 1 eyebeam and pc 2 eyebeam |
04:31.09 | troyb | slePP do you peer over private circuits? |
04:31.41 | slePP | yes |
04:31.52 | troyb | interesting :) |
04:32.05 | troyb | what facility are you guys in? |
04:32.32 | *** join/#asterisk EriSan (n=erisan@81-174-25-141.f5.ngi.it) |
04:33.09 | slePP | which stuff? :> |
04:33.11 | slePP | allstream tower & cn tower |
04:33.49 | [TK]D-Fender | X-Files : Not sure what to do from here... |
04:33.55 | *** join/#asterisk bkw__ (n=brian@ppp-70-128-122-10.dsl.tulsok.swbell.net) |
04:34.04 | Qwell | bkw__: ! |
04:34.22 | troyb | slePP this is toronto? |
04:34.28 | slePP | no |
04:34.29 | slePP | edmonton |
04:34.39 | troyb | CN tower is in edmonton? |
04:34.40 | slePP | 90% of this can be seen from our AS :> |
04:34.50 | JMcA | CN Tower is in Toronto |
04:34.50 | slePP | yes, head of west coast and US operations of CN is in edmonton |
04:34.55 | slePP | it is also in Edmonton |
04:34.56 | [TK]D-Fender | X-Files : Works for me.... |
04:35.01 | slePP | and there's one in Calgary |
04:35.02 | [TK]D-Fender | X-Files : just tried it. |
04:35.11 | troyb | apparently there is more then one cn tower ;) |
04:35.15 | slePP | of course |
04:35.24 | slePP | just like there're more than one telus and bell tower |
04:35.25 | X-Files | hm |
04:35.26 | slePP | it's just the name |
04:35.31 | slePP | the one in toronto is "The CN Tower" |
04:35.37 | troyb | oh :) |
04:35.38 | JMcA | "The" CN Tower is in Toronto |
04:35.39 | slePP | the one i edmonton.. well, it's just cn's tower |
04:35.41 | slePP | so, it's cn tower |
04:35.52 | JMcA | yeah...that's where I was going with that |
04:35.55 | [TK]D-Fender | X-Files : What does your contact say int he list while you're on the phone? |
04:37.09 | X-Files | [TK]D-Fender offline |
04:37.22 | [TK]D-Fender | X-Files : I dunno.. restart your phone |
04:37.34 | X-Files | restarted :) |
04:38.42 | X-Files | [TK]D-Fender: this same problem ;( 0 online users |
04:38.47 | troyb | slePP im trying to determine the equiv command on a zebra box for displaying bgp data :( |
04:39.18 | slePP | show ip bgp |
04:39.30 | slePP | show ip bgp paths XXXX |
04:39.35 | troyb | yeah i just got it :) |
04:39.37 | troyb | thanks |
04:40.29 | troyb | slePP that doesnt work when you want to input an as# |
04:40.39 | slePP | uhm |
04:41.21 | slePP | that's interesting.. |
04:41.41 | troyb | its damn straightforward when your connected to the router directly |
04:41.52 | troyb | then as you said you can just do show ip bgp |
04:42.01 | slePP | weird |
04:42.05 | slePP | i forget how to do that in quagga now |
04:43.16 | troyb | are you 195.x ? |
04:43.23 | troyb | err 159 |
04:44.37 | troyb | i think i found you :) |
04:45.10 | troyb | <PROTECTED> |
04:45.10 | troyb | * 159.18.161.0/24 195.66.226.109 0 15444 15290 14595 i |
04:45.35 | troyb | eh slePP? |
04:45.54 | slePP | yessir |
04:45.59 | slePP | short path |
04:46.21 | troyb | are they tunneling your traffic from toronto? |
04:46.30 | slePP | no |
04:46.35 | slePP | we have local links |
04:46.38 | slePP | is that the only path you see? |
04:47.19 | troyb | i see a lot of links in here :) |
04:47.44 | bkw__ | OMG its slePP |
04:47.49 | slePP | OMG IT IS |
04:48.11 | troyb | your weighting everything at 0, atleast your not penny pinching with another carrier |
04:48.11 | bkw__ | troyb, you having bgp drama? |
04:48.18 | slePP | he's looking me up |
04:48.21 | troyb | bkw__ not anymore |
04:48.29 | troyb | route-views.linx.routeviews.org> show ip bgp regex 14595 |
04:48.34 | slePP | troyb: we do MED to peers, not transit |
04:48.34 | troyb | that seems to do it |
04:48.37 | slePP | no point in transit |
04:48.59 | troyb | how much traffic are you guys pushing? |
04:49.41 | slePP | aggregate is about 10-15mbit/s |
04:49.47 | slePP | public is about 7mbit peak |
04:49.47 | *** join/#asterisk postel (n=jp@host86-139-209-144.range86-139.btcentralplus.com) |
04:49.49 | slePP | 3mbit sustained |
04:49.53 | troyb | OrgName: ThinkTel Communications Ltd. |
04:49.54 | troyb | OrgID: TCL-93 |
04:50.06 | slePP | ie, fuck all |
04:50.06 | slePP | :> |
04:50.08 | bkw__ | AS 36348 |
04:50.29 | troyb | slePP im surprised you went to the time and trouble with BGP, though 3Mbps of VoIP traffic is still substantial |
04:50.48 | troyb | most DMS phone switches have an OC3 interoffice connection so. :) |
04:50.52 | bkw__ | troyb, you have your own ip allocation from ARIN? |
04:50.58 | troyb | bkw_ i do not :) |
04:51.06 | troyb | maybe at some point but not at present |
04:51.15 | slePP | troyb: we're about uhm... 25 meters away from the dms500 we pull DS3s from |
04:51.19 | troyb | bkw_ i dont see a point in paying ARIN for use of IP |
04:51.28 | slePP | we're full bgp and everything for a few reasons, not the least of which is failover/multihoming |
04:51.33 | bkw__ | troyb I can tell a provider to fuck off without having to renumber |
04:51.40 | slePP | but, we also have only put our switch into production around the last week of december |
04:51.45 | slePP | so, we went from little to very big :> |
04:51.46 | troyb | bkw_ you gave me a good laugh :) |
04:51.52 | slePP | and now we're moving up. about 2 months ago, our sustained was about 2mbit |
04:51.56 | bkw__ | I don't like to renumber 2000 boxes |
04:52.05 | troyb | slePP im impressed :) |
04:52.12 | Qwell | bkw__: oh come on, it's fun! |
04:52.20 | bkw__ | OH HELL NO |
04:52.25 | troyb | what kind of switch are you running, Nortel i assume? |
04:52.27 | slePP | and we have three new private peers to bring online in the next month |
04:52.28 | bkw__ | ARIN is some IP nazi bastards |
04:52.36 | [av]bani | godwin |
04:52.37 | slePP | why on earth would i run a nortel switch? :> |
04:52.40 | Qwell | my work has pre-ARIN allocations |
04:52.45 | slePP | bkw__: do you have a /32 ipv6 allocation yet? |
04:52.50 | troyb | lol |
04:52.55 | bkw__ | slePP, they don't give you one that small |
04:52.55 | Qwell | like a /16 worth |
04:53.04 | bkw__ | I have a /22 right now |
04:53.06 | bkw__ | but I need more |
04:53.12 | bkw__ | so i'll have another /22 in 3 months |
04:53.23 | bkw__ | but the ARIN nazi's won't give me what I need to even cover my current needs |
04:53.24 | slePP | no |
04:53.28 | slePP | <PROTECTED> |
04:53.30 | slePP | not /32 ipv4 :P |
04:53.32 | slePP | that'd be stupid |
04:53.34 | bkw__ | fuck ipv6 |
04:53.35 | bkw__ | nobody uses |
04:53.45 | slePP | only americans think that :> |
04:53.51 | slePP | either way, it's free |
04:53.53 | bkw__ | until I can get a native v6 connection then I will |
04:53.54 | slePP | so you should get one anyway |
04:53.58 | slePP | where're you at? |
04:54.08 | bkw__ | slePP, a true allocation from ARIN might take me an arm and a leg to get |
04:54.13 | troyb | bkw_ /22 is pretty substantial 1024 |
04:54.14 | bkw__ | they waive the fee's for it |
04:54.21 | DarkFlibble | you don't need native ip6 |
04:54.24 | slePP | a /32 from arin is easy |
04:54.28 | DarkFlibble | use an adhoc yunnel for now |
04:54.30 | bkw__ | slePP, I can get it |
04:54.33 | slePP | it's free if you have an ipv4 block or arin membership |
04:54.33 | bkw__ | but I don't want to tunnel |
04:54.37 | bkw__ | slePP, right |
04:54.39 | slePP | that's why i asked where you are |
04:54.40 | bkw__ | IF APPROVED |
04:54.47 | slePP | approved. yes... heh |
04:55.01 | slePP | they're giving it away like campaign buttons |
04:55.08 | bkw__ | I'll get one then |
04:55.12 | troyb | slePP are you doing VoIP only or providing copper services as well? |
04:55.21 | slePP | troyb: voip only to the edges, at least |
04:55.24 | Qwell | bkw__: give away tunnels with asterlink service. heh |
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04:55.25 | troyb | DarkFlibble can i borrow an octet or two |
04:55.30 | troyb | *laughs* |
04:55.30 | slePP | and a /48 for the real stuff |
04:55.32 | Qwell | 2c/meg |
04:55.34 | bkw__ | Qwell, what do you think i'm going to do :P |
04:55.36 | Qwell | heh |
04:55.45 | bkw__ | tiz why I wanted a /19 |
04:55.49 | troyb | slePP i call the the first 4 bits |
04:55.51 | bkw__ | but dem bitches won't give me one |
04:55.52 | Qwell | bkw__: well...hook it up |
04:56.04 | bkw__ | I already returned a /24 to our provider |
04:56.04 | DarkFlibble | 65536 networks of 16billion ips for my house... |
04:56.12 | bkw__ | I have to return 1 more /24 before I ask for more IP's |
04:56.16 | slePP | DarkFlibble: not enough! |
04:56.16 | DarkFlibble | err... billion billion even |
04:56.26 | slePP | don't forget the link local's and site local's :> |
04:56.40 | troyb | slePP what i really want is for Bell to let me buy a copper pair to do point to point SDSL |
04:56.44 | DarkFlibble | slePP, site local is depreciated |
04:56.51 | Qwell | DEPRECATED |
04:56.54 | Qwell | no i |
04:57.00 | Qwell | ~depreciated |
04:57.05 | jbot | i guess depreciated is "you can use it, but it's no longer the best way and will probably be unsupported soon" |
04:57.05 | Qwell | ~deprecated |
04:57.07 | jbot | i guess deprecated is a typo of depreciated, see depreciated, or not a typo according to the jargon file... oh well here it is "you can use it, but it's no longer the best way and will probably be unsupported soon" since when become typos new words |
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04:57.15 | slePP | troyb: telus is being sticky out here for that.. again, we have 4 copper (well, 8 pairs, 4 runs) right now with RADSL |
04:57.17 | Qwell | meh...lies |
04:57.24 | slePP | but they refuse to sell us more without low-pass filtering |
04:57.27 | slePP | DarkFlibble: so? |
04:57.34 | slePP | DarkFlibble: that shouldn't stop you from abusing it :> |
04:57.35 | Corydon76-home | ~dict depreciated |
04:57.46 | Corydon76-home | ~dict deprecated |
04:57.47 | DarkFlibble | so.. you have link local and then world routable... |
04:57.55 | Qwell | yes, evil |
04:57.59 | DarkFlibble | no need for anything else |
04:58.14 | Qwell | like SetCallerID |
04:58.18 | slePP | silly |
04:58.19 | Corydon76-home | The dictionary is not something other people can mess with |
04:58.30 | slePP | that's like saying you don't need 10.0.0.0/8 on a single segment |
04:58.30 | slePP | sheesh |
04:58.31 | slePP | :> |
04:58.48 | troyb | geez time to learn about OSPF areas |
04:59.13 | troyb1 | sweet :D |
05:00.10 | DarkFlibble | so...one area... |
05:00.16 | DarkFlibble | and its like wtf |
05:00.24 | Qwell | bkw__: So, we gonna go out drinking one night at ETel? |
05:00.49 | troyb1 | DarkFlibble area 0 is my fav |
05:00.51 | angler_ | Corydon76-home, i finally have a pn shirt that isn't way to big! |
05:01.04 | bkw__ | Qwell, YES |
05:01.10 | Corydon76-home | angler_: fabulous. Wanna buy another? |
05:01.13 | DarkFlibble | they also had both outgoing connections on a single router... |
05:01.22 | Qwell | I get the feeling I've already asked you that :p |
05:01.26 | DarkFlibble | never did find out why |
05:01.46 | Corydon76-home | So when that shirt starts looking grayish, you'll still have a black PN9 shirt? |
05:02.41 | angler_ | Corydon76-home, maybe for pn 5 |
05:03.01 | Corydon76-home | Those shirts are all sold out |
05:03.23 | angler_ | Corydon76-home, yea johnny x said he might make some though... he said to keep bugging him about it though |
05:03.43 | Corydon76-home | Heh |
05:03.48 | slePP | i like when ospf carries like.. 4 routes |
05:03.51 | slePP | nice and clear |
05:04.11 | troyb1 | slePP what happens when you max out on areas.. jenga :) |
05:04.23 | troyb1 | can you say.. packet storm |
05:04.52 | bkw__ | you can reuse areas in OSPF can't you if they don't overlap? |
05:05.30 | DarkFlibble | bkw_, sometimes... |
05:05.59 | bkw__ | thats what I thought |
05:06.24 | troyb1 | bkw_ what happens when you need to send packets from point 1 to point 2? |
05:07.00 | DarkFlibble | you basicly are advertising routes... not areas but it depends on implementation... |
05:07.13 | slePP | it just determines intra/inter based on area |
05:07.15 | troyb1 | fair enough |
05:07.22 | slePP | dunno why'd you'd do that, though.. |
05:07.28 | slePP | have 4 area 0's :> |
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05:07.38 | slePP | ospf over gre is fun |
05:07.43 | troyb1 | slePP any chance you want to let me play with your phone switch :P |
05:08.10 | slePP | hell. no. |
05:08.10 | slePP | :> |
05:08.13 | mrdigital | anyone do web design? |
05:08.23 | coppice | advertising routes? can you advertise special offers on them too? send two packets, get one free? |
05:08.48 | NeonLevel | good evening guys, sorry to bother you again, what i need now is to keep my cel phone bill, so i was checking the callback.agi app, anyone has this working? and could please help me? |
05:09.07 | DarkFlibble | coppice, no...but you can advertise it half price (cost) |
05:10.09 | mrdigital | guess no one does |
05:10.28 | konfuzed | mrdigital: i know someone that does |
05:10.34 | Peggerr | does anyone here use * with chan_sccp2? |
05:10.51 | konfuzed | mrdigital: but I suspect that you have unrealistic expectations |
05:11.09 | killer-ch | enough beer for today .. going to bed .. n8 all together |
05:11.16 | Qwell | Peggerr: the one from berlios.de? |
05:11.23 | NeonLevel | did anyone readme? |
05:11.24 | mrdigital | konfuzed: what do you mean? |
05:13.45 | NeonLevel | callback.agi or app_callback ?? anyone??? |
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05:16.32 | konfuzed | mrdigital: ive never met someone wanting help from a developer that did not have unrealistic expectations |
05:17.04 | coppice | konfuzed: I have - another developer :-) |
05:17.06 | slePP | but the grandparent container's background :> |
05:17.12 | konfuzed | slePP: <--- knows unrealistic Geek Gods so that doesnt count |
05:17.35 | konfuzed | cause he can have his unrealistic fantasies developed on a whim |
05:17.56 | konfuzed | ;^) |
05:18.14 | konfuzed | slePP: im not a developer ;^) |
05:18.35 | konfuzed | I just translate from those who want development to those who do development |
05:18.55 | slePP | oh :> |
05:19.01 | slePP | fine then |
05:19.32 | konfuzed | slePP: but I'll see If I can get a JavaHelp geek to take a stab at it |
05:19.56 | slePP | i don't think it's possible |
05:19.57 | DarkFlibble | in answer to the number of possible areas in ospf... its at least 10... can't find an exact figure in my books... but I have examples in the cisco ccie course books with 10... |
05:20.03 | slePP | with pure and un-hacked-up CSS |
05:20.11 | Peggerr | Qwell, what is berlios.de |
05:20.20 | slePP | DarkFlibble: isn't the only limit memory/cpu/etc.? |
05:20.27 | slePP | that and actual field size in the packets |
05:20.49 | DarkFlibble | to be honest I don't know... since many implementations actually number areas |
05:21.14 | DarkFlibble | so its likely to be 256 or 65536 |
05:21.43 | DarkFlibble | never need an OSPF AS of more than 6 in real life tho |
05:22.20 | DarkFlibble | me goes back and biggles at whet he just wrote... |
05:22.22 | konfuzed | slePP: i know you sent a couple of paste bin addresses but do you have ont that explains the objective and problem/errors and such |
05:22.29 | konfuzed | lke a well formed request |
05:22.39 | DarkFlibble | I have never needed an OSPF AS with more areas than 6 in real life tho |
05:22.56 | slePP | konfuzed: uhm. of which? |
05:23.15 | slePP | and that's even overkill |
05:23.20 | slePP | area 51 is a useless stub |
05:23.25 | konfuzed | the best translating I do for non techs is to explain the well formed support request gets well formed easy solutions |
05:23.27 | slePP | and area 2 is nearly pointless |
05:23.34 | konfuzed | slePP: for the new pastebin :^) |
05:23.41 | slePP | konfuzed: oh! |
05:23.43 | DarkFlibble | yeah... this was a massive corporate network... *cough* bank *cough* |
05:23.48 | slePP | yes. no, not really |
05:23.51 | slePP | i just want opinions at this time |
05:23.56 | slePP | i'll get to bugs when i get it done this week |
05:24.01 | slePP | DarkFlibble: heh |
05:24.39 | konfuzed | slePP: i cant ask a geek i know unless I can provide a clear plroblem scenario, right. |
05:24.51 | konfuzed | part of my translating ;^) |
05:25.50 | DarkFlibble | slePP, rfc 2329 says that vendors have attempted upto 7 areas in a domain |
05:25.54 | DarkFlibble | irl |
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05:27.17 | xachen | <3 pastebin :) |
05:27.42 | slePP | konfuzed: i did describe the one issue :> but that's not a big issue. i imagine its impossible |
05:27.53 | slePP | DarkFlibble: that's interesting |
05:28.14 | DarkFlibble | no need for more than that imo... |
05:28.45 | HamYaI | DarkFlibble: ManxPower said earlier about letting * play sounds before actually asnwering the line, u know how to do that? |
05:29.06 | DarkFlibble | nope... but I can read the scroll back and google it... |
05:29.15 | slePP | early media |
05:29.19 | slePP | Playback(invalid,noanswer) |
05:29.26 | slePP | sends SDP in a 183 |
05:29.48 | slePP | so the call never connects |
05:29.53 | HamYaI | slePP: only in 1.2? |
05:29.55 | slePP | but it will time out during 18x progress eventually |
05:30.03 | slePP | no, i do that in cvs from january of last year and 1.0.5 |
05:30.07 | slePP | and in 1.2 |
05:30.14 | slePP | xachen: v3.pastebin.ca |
05:30.47 | DarkFlibble | http://www.voip-info.org//tiki-pagehistory.php?page=Asterisk+cmd+Playback&diff2=6 <-- its actually on the wiki... |
05:31.33 | HamYaI | DarkFlibble, slePP: k, thanks |
05:33.50 | slePP | i'm bored now |
05:34.04 | DarkFlibble | do what I do... |
05:34.10 | xachen | sleP: nice :) |
05:34.16 | xachen | You cuold fix my intellodesk now :) |
05:34.27 | DarkFlibble | have 7 channels open... and read the web at the same time |
05:34.32 | slePP | what's an intellodesk? :P |
05:35.00 | xachen | its the latest in Helpdesk software |
05:35.02 | xachen | still beta though |
05:35.04 | slePP | oh dear |
05:35.13 | xachen | I got it for a $59 special when it will be retailing for $600~ |
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05:35.28 | xachen | Yeah. But intellodesk has the potential to outgrow cerberus and kayako |
05:35.47 | HamYaI | why is the 24 ports TDM so expensive? |
05:37.07 | slePP | T1? |
05:37.07 | Qwell | HamYaI: expensive? not really |
05:37.07 | Qwell | slePP: tdm2400p, 24 port analog |
05:37.07 | slePP | ah |
05:37.07 | HamYaI | slePP: analog |
05:37.08 | slePP | new hardware |
05:37.08 | Qwell | it's like what, $1500 for 24fxs? |
05:37.08 | Qwell | slePP: fairly, yeah |
05:37.08 | xachen | 24 port analog.... |
05:37.09 | HamYaI | Qwell: yeah, but the digital ones are cheaper |
05:37.09 | slePP | why not get a dual T1 controller |
05:37.09 | Qwell | amphenol connector, 6x4 slots |
05:37.09 | slePP | and a channel bank :> |
05:37.09 | Qwell | digital? |
05:37.09 | Qwell | that isn't analog |
05:37.15 | Qwell | 6x4 modular, of course |
05:37.46 | HamYaI | slePP: to get an E1 connection here it's like $2,500 for the setup fee |
05:38.10 | slePP | vs how much for 30 analogs? |
05:38.19 | slePP | monthly & setup |
05:38.33 | slePP | out here in canada, a T1 is cheaper than the equivalent analogs |
05:38.49 | slePP | of course, i was thinking you were going to use the tdm2400p for internal lines |
05:38.56 | HamYaI | slePP: it's the same actually but I still need less than 30 |
05:39.06 | slePP | either way.. an E1 channel bank -> E1 controller may be easier/more "expandable" |
05:39.34 | slePP | then you just plug in as many as you need to the bank and can always upgrade to a full E1 with about 30 seconds downtime :> |
05:39.58 | HamYaI | slePP: yeah, thinking about it |
05:40.56 | HamYaI | slePP: I'm just building up test stuffs, that's why I wanna lower the cost |
05:41.20 | De_Mon | SplasPood (several hours ago) Oh.. Leme recheck the wiki then. I don't remember that being said... |
05:41.29 | X-Files | Please help, http://pastebin.ca/37767 |
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05:45.06 | DarkFlibble | also T1/E1 uses digital signalling... its a much cleaner solution... |
05:45.40 | slePP | faster |
05:45.42 | slePP | vroom |
05:46.01 | slePP | HamYaI: pickup an E1 controller and get a fractional E1 |
05:46.08 | De_Mon | <PROTECTED> |
05:46.14 | DarkFlibble | just read the amiling list for all the problems with off-hook detection on analogue |
05:46.40 | DarkFlibble | worth it just to not face that problem |
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05:48.10 | DarkFlibble | almost 6am... gonna go and eat breakfast |
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05:54.13 | Trazz | Whats the best version of linux to install asterisk on these days? |
05:54.24 | DarkFlibble | fc4 worked well for me... |
05:54.33 | DarkFlibble | but other rave about openSuSE 10 |
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05:55.01 | DarkFlibble | centos is a nice possibility tho... |
05:55.02 | [av]bani | use whatever youre comfortable with |
05:55.08 | [av]bani | asterisk cares not |
05:55.14 | DarkFlibble | since its a RHEL clone |
05:55.36 | FuriousGeorg1 | did freenode upgrade or something, i didnt have to register |
05:56.57 | troyb1 | i use CentOS |
05:57.37 | HamYaI | slePP: don't think fractional E1s are available here |
05:57.44 | NeonLevel | and what's the difference between CentOS vs WhiteBox? |
05:57.44 | slePP | ah |
05:57.46 | slePP | that'll be a problem |
05:58.10 | DarkFlibble | only reason I chose fc4 over centos was because I needed some of the dev stuff that isn't in centos and didn't feel like messing with dependacies |
05:58.18 | DarkFlibble | NeonLevel, not much |
05:58.23 | FuriousGeorg1 | anyway, since i upgraded to 1.2 "#-xfers" are not working. i added the lines to features.conf and everything |
05:58.58 | FuriousGeorg1 | i cant figure out what im missing |
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06:04.45 | Trazz | so what does the zapatel 1.2.2 fix over 1.2.1 ? |
06:05.04 | JunK-Y | Trazz: see the changelog. |
06:05.16 | Trazz | Junk, anything notable ? |
06:05.35 | DarkFlibble | I suppose I really should finish off my web interface for uk dids |
06:05.43 | DarkFlibble | bbl |
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06:06.21 | X-Files | ppls, please check http://pastebin.ca/37767 |
06:06.24 | Trazz | has any web based or pc based gui been created to to configuration? |
06:06.39 | slePP | Trazz: asterisk management portal |
06:06.40 | slePP | or something |
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06:08.54 | Trazz | nice.. |
06:08.55 | Trazz | /bin/sh: -c: line 0: syntax error near unexpected token `;' |
06:08.55 | Trazz | /bin/sh: -c: line 0: `if [ -n "" ]; then if [ -f ]; then mv -f .ba |
06:09.09 | Trazz | make: *** [install] Error 2 |
06:09.09 | Trazz | [root@voip zaptel-1.2.2]# |
06:09.18 | Trazz | cant make install the zaptel 1.2.2 |
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06:49.58 | [av]bani | wow packet8 quality is terrible |
06:51.21 | Trazz | what is the graphical call manager and where can i get it? |
06:51.52 | FuriousGeorge | ~fop |
06:51.53 | jbot | An XSL formatter written in Java that outputs PDF. URL: http://www.jtauber.com/fop/, or the Flash Operator Panel |
06:52.20 | FuriousGeorge | Flash Operator Panel |
06:52.37 | Trazz | is it good? |
06:52.56 | FuriousGeorge | anyone know why #-transfer stopped working when i upgraded to 1.2? |
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07:04.14 | wasim | FuriousGeorge: new DEA policy against using hash |
07:06.27 | thazza | wasim: Whats the new policy say? |
07:06.38 | wasim | don't use # |
07:08.06 | FuriousGeorge | wasim: actually i use hash twice |
07:08.22 | FuriousGeorge | i smoke two joints in the morning, i smoke two joints at night |
07:08.27 | FuriousGeorge | seriously though |
07:08.32 | wasim | FuriousGeorge: good stuff? |
07:08.34 | thazza | wasim: Any reason why so? |
07:09.00 | [av]bani | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4776825453418327083&q=shirt+fold |
07:09.04 | wasim | thazza: they seem to think that hash is bad for you some reason, as opposed to alcohol and tobacco |
07:09.24 | FuriousGeorge | i use ##, at least i want to, but since i upgrade neither # nor ## works *and yeah its a pretty good "beaster" as we call it) |
07:09.27 | thazza | wasim: oh i see.. It is a drugs joke.. |
07:10.08 | FuriousGeorge | thazza: this just in: The DEA doesnt care how you transfer calls |
07:10.19 | wasim | as long as you don't use hash! |
07:10.40 | FuriousGeorge | as long as your not making money off of drugs (without kicking up to uncle sam) the DEA dont care |
07:11.16 | thazza | wasim: or the vars of $cocaine, or $whitestuff |
07:11.25 | FuriousGeorge | "i smoke two joints in the afternoon, makes me feel all-right" |
07:11.26 | wasim | now those are bad for you |
07:11.45 | FuriousGeorge | $MR_BROWN_STONE |
07:12.18 | FuriousGeorge | anyway, if no one knows about my transfer issue im going back to watching forensic files |
07:12.26 | *** join/#asterisk IronHelixz (n=irc@ool-45785cfe.dyn.optonline.net) |
07:12.27 | FuriousGeorge | ~seen mog_work |
07:12.37 | jbot | mog_work <n=mogorman@gateway.digium.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #asterisk, 8h 56m 28s ago, saying: 'wanna fight about it ^_^'. |
07:12.37 | thazza | lol @ FuriousGeorge |
07:12.38 | FuriousGeorge | ~lastseen mog_work |
07:12.42 | thazza | FuriousGeorge: Mog does work? |
07:13.06 | FuriousGeorge | needs to be doing some on astjab.org, i finally set aside a minute to install it |
07:13.09 | FuriousGeorge | :) |
07:13.19 | FuriousGeorge | whoops its up |
07:13.24 | thazza | FuriousGeorge: I think jbot is just showing you that i am correct and mog doesn't do anywork. |
07:14.05 | FuriousGeorge | :) |
07:14.13 | FuriousGeorge | ~lastseen mog_home |
07:14.25 | FuriousGeorge | ~seen mog_home |
07:14.28 | jbot | mog_home <n=mogorman@user-24-236-84-48.knology.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #asterisk, 1d 14h 8m 14s ago, saying: 'bye peoples'. |
07:14.45 | FuriousGeorge | ~seen mog_drunk_and_gambling |
07:14.47 | jbot | FuriousGeorge: i haven't seen 'mog_drunk_and_gambling' |
07:15.05 | FuriousGeorge | jbot: consider yourself lucky |
07:15.11 | thazza | LOL @ FuriousGeorge |
07:15.35 | FuriousGeorge | ~FuriousGeorge |
07:15.37 | jbot | i guess furiousgeorge is a knife-fighting monkey last seen with The Man with the Yellow Bat |
07:15.47 | thazza | ~seen FuriousGeorge_In_A_Dress |
07:15.49 | jbot | i haven't seen 'furiousgeorge_in_a_dress', thazza |
07:16.00 | thazza | jbot: Lucky for you. |
07:16.03 | FuriousGeorge | jbot: stop liein cuz ur friends are around |
07:16.04 | jbot | ACTION leaps to his feet and stops liein cuz ur friends are around |
07:16.16 | FuriousGeorge | thats better |
07:16.42 | hohum | hey |
07:16.49 | FuriousGeorge | ho-oo |
07:16.58 | hohum | I can't for the life of me figure out why VoiceMailMain is not working on my dialplan |
07:16.58 | hohum | ! |
07:17.06 | hohum | VoiceMailMain() |
07:17.09 | Trazz | just installed 1.2.2 and Jan 21 01:29:10 WARNING[5295]: file.c:821 ast_streamfile: Unable to open press-7 (format ulaw): No such file or directory |
07:17.14 | FuriousGeorge | hohum: now your supposed to say hey again |
07:17.22 | hohum | no thanks though |
07:18.01 | FuriousGeorge | exten => 5000,1,voicemailmain , right |
07:18.07 | FuriousGeorge | or somethng like that |
07:18.40 | hohum | exten => 9000,3,VoicemailMain() |
07:18.54 | FuriousGeorge | you do have a 1 priority right |
07:18.56 | FuriousGeorge | and a 2 |
07:19.08 | hohum | I do |
07:19.15 | hohum | exten => 9000,1,Answer() |
07:19.16 | hohum | exten -> 9000,2,Wait(1) |
07:19.27 | FuriousGeorge | cli output |
07:19.31 | hohum | :w |
07:19.37 | FuriousGeorge | ? |
07:20.03 | hohum | <PROTECTED> |
07:20.03 | hohum | <PROTECTED> |
07:20.03 | hohum | <PROTECTED> |
07:20.04 | hohum | <PROTECTED> |
07:20.04 | hohum | <PROTECTED> |
07:20.17 | hohum | and the Playback is being called from my Hangup |
07:20.19 | hohum | so |
07:20.31 | hohum | it's going from that exten to hangup |
07:20.42 | FuriousGeorge | == Auto fallthrough, channel 'SIP/3102-9bec' status is 'UNKNOWN' |
07:20.46 | hohum | skipping the VoicemailMain call |
07:20.57 | Qwell | wait |
07:21.03 | FuriousGeorge | i never got that |
07:21.07 | Qwell | Did you paste the priority 2? |
07:21.11 | Qwell | or did you retype it? |
07:21.14 | Qwell | note the -> |
07:21.18 | hohum | oh |
07:21.21 | hohum | grrrr |
07:21.33 | Qwell | no...let me |
07:21.40 | Qwell | ~lart hohum |
07:21.46 | wasim | no, no, please let jbot |
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07:22.44 | wasim | in @ pk, 2nd test, 1 day, first session is even stevens ... 120 for 2 |
07:24.37 | FuriousGeorge | awww, shake that thang 0-/-< |
07:24.56 | FuriousGeorge | (baby, shake that thang) 0-\-< |
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07:29.12 | FuriousGeorge | Qwell: i know that you know, that you know that i know, that you know why my #-xfer stopped working when i upgraded to 1.2 |
07:30.16 | Qwell | FuriousGeorge: new DEA rules |
07:31.12 | wasim | tee hee |
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07:31.38 | FuriousGeorge | lol |
07:31.50 | FuriousGeorge | i like when we keep it going like that |
07:31.58 | DarkFlibble | ~DarkFlib |
07:32.00 | jbot | somebody said darkflib was great |
07:32.00 | FuriousGeorge | forensic files it is |
07:32.06 | DarkFlibble | yay! |
07:32.21 | FuriousGeorge | :| |
07:32.23 | DarkFlibble | ~DarkFlibble |
07:32.50 | DarkFlibble | hmmm... |
07:33.03 | DarkFlibble | that line must've been there for a while... |
07:33.14 | FuriousGeorge | ~Darkfibble |
07:33.38 | FuriousGeorge | jbot: no, darkfibble enjoys the company of young male farm animals |
07:33.58 | FuriousGeorge | hmmm |
07:34.11 | FuriousGeorge | can you believe they disabled my favorite feature of jbot |
07:34.17 | DarkFlibble | jbot: FuriousGeorge was last seen skulking around strange bars in red light districts |
07:34.29 | FuriousGeorge | :| |
07:34.35 | DarkFlibble | ~FuriousGeorge |
07:34.38 | jbot | methinks furiousgeorge is a knife-fighting monkey last seen with The Man with the Yellow Bat |
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07:34.41 | FuriousGeorge | ~darkfibble |
07:35.02 | dmz | hey y'all is asterisk-users not in use anymore? |
07:35.09 | DarkFlibble | who is this darkfibble? Can't be me since I have an L in my nick |
07:35.10 | FuriousGeorge | i wish i was in holland :) |
07:36.02 | DarkFlibble | I wish I had a proper job |
07:36.24 | cyber | hey is any one using radius with asterisk |
07:36.40 | DarkFlibble | cyber, not yet... but maybe soon |
07:36.53 | cyber | it's not possible is it ? |
07:37.00 | DarkFlibble | yes... |
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07:37.10 | cyber | OIC |
07:37.25 | DarkFlibble | most methods are a little convoluted... |
07:37.57 | cyber | DarkFlibble what can i use for billing |
07:38.45 | DarkFlibble | cyber, what requirements do you have and what infrastructure already exists? |
07:39.02 | Mark_Halverson | any good places to learn abount dundi? |
07:39.17 | cyber | i have installed asterisk and h323 on a linux server |
07:39.20 | DarkFlibble | Mark_Halverson, try leifmadsen.com |
07:39.24 | cyber | all works gr8 |
07:39.31 | Mark_Halverson | thanks |
07:39.58 | DarkFlibble | np |
07:40.41 | DarkFlibble | brb... door |
07:42.09 | DarkFlibble | ib |
07:42.38 | cyber | Darkflibble do u use php agi for billing ? |
07:43.17 | *** part/#asterisk ManWithTheMetalB (n=brian@ool-44c5a9b8.dyn.optonline.net) |
07:43.54 | DarkFlibble | currently... but only because I haven't wrote any proper app for it |
07:44.12 | DarkFlibble | causes a second delay in setup using agi... |
07:44.12 | cyber | i saw a2billing |
07:44.29 | cyber | which looks very good |
07:44.35 | *** part/#asterisk dmz (n=dmz@209.133.52.162) |
07:46.47 | DarkFlibble | not looked at alternatives to my own stuff since my requirements are fairly narrow |
07:47.00 | cyber | :) |
07:47.25 | cyber | but i need a wholesale one :( |
07:48.33 | DarkFlibble | I'm probably gonna have to write an extension to asterisk to do what I want or hook into the manager interface... |
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07:57.05 | Mark_Halverson | ok let me ask this here...i dont understand dundi yet - I have a TDM DS3 and willing to offer the * community access to USA Toll-Free @ no charge - could this be made available using dundi? |
07:57.18 | wasim | yes |
07:57.19 | DarkFlibble | yes |
07:57.28 | Mark_Halverson | ok |
07:57.57 | Mark_Halverson | how does dundi handel callerid - the only restriction is that i MUST pass a valid ANI/CallerID |
07:58.36 | Mark_Halverson | i sent leif an email - but I am going to need some assistance setting this dundi thing up |
07:58.39 | wasim | you can either choose to trust and vet inbound clid and if failed, set your own |
07:58.46 | wasim | leif == blitzrage |
07:59.08 | DarkFlibble | leif co-wrote the oreilly book |
07:59.09 | Katty | allo. |
07:59.36 | Mark_Halverson | i love oreilly - there in my home town...and soon to move back.....Sebastopol, CA |
08:00.16 | Mark_Halverson | i didn't know there was an oreilly book on dundi - let me surf and check |
08:00.23 | Qwell | not dundi |
08:00.26 | Qwell | asterisk.. |
08:00.29 | Qwell | ~thebook |
08:00.43 | jbot | extra, extra, read all about it, thebook is Asterisk: The Future of Telephony, released under the Creative Commons license and available at http://www.asteriskdocs.org << Read the book online! |
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08:07.24 | Mark_Halverson | ok that will be some exciting reading tomarrow 376 pages! |
08:07.44 | drumkilla | it's a great book :) |
08:08.05 | Mark_Halverson | k |
08:08.06 | Qwell | indeed it is |
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08:09.28 | zoa | hey ho drummer |
08:09.42 | Qwell | zoa: Gonna get some guys to test the new idefisk right now. :) |
08:09.51 | zoa | super! |
08:10.55 | Qwell | sheesh, no ebuild? :p |
08:11.11 | zoa | what is an ebuild ? |
08:11.14 | Qwell | gentoo |
08:11.23 | Qwell | "package" |
08:11.35 | zoa | aaah |
08:11.49 | zoa | but gentoo would want to compile it and we dont provide sources |
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08:12.01 | Qwell | it can do binary packages too...like sun j2re |
08:12.08 | zoa | aha |
08:12.17 | zoa | i will try to make some packages for it |
08:12.31 | zoa | .deb .rpm and ebuild then :) |
08:12.47 | Qwell | I'd say the first two at least. |
08:12.50 | Qwell | I was mostly joking. :) |
08:13.10 | zoa | well, im adding new things to the todo list all the time :) |
08:13.20 | iDunno | no source?! insanity! |
08:13.21 | zoa | it can always improve :) |
08:13.53 | zoa | iDunno: will you pay the programmers ? :P |
08:14.10 | iDunno | do they work for a pint a week? |
08:14.20 | Qwell | actually... |
08:14.32 | Qwell | zoa: The cool thing about making an ebuild, would be automatic dependancy checking |
08:14.37 | zoa | yeah i know |
08:14.43 | Qwell | like this libexpat...I have no clue where it comes from, but I need it |
08:14.43 | zoa | that also why i was thinking about it |
08:15.04 | zoa | problem is that i need yet another guy on making packages every day then :( |
08:17.57 | argos73 | is there a "clean" way to check for the existence of a DB variable (sans DBget) ? GotoIfThisDbVariableWasNotSet(1206) application??? want to be able to change timeout on a Dial() per extension, with default 20 secs if DB variable doesn't exist... |
08:18.49 | drumkilla | argos73: yes |
08:18.55 | drumkilla | argos73: show function DB_EXISTS |
08:19.33 | argos73 | drumkilla: cool... tnx. (that new in 1.2? just upgraded about an hour ago) |
08:19.43 | drumkilla | yes, it is new |
08:19.48 | argos73 | gotcha |
08:20.13 | argos73 | that'll work |
08:20.30 | drumkilla | GotoIf(${DB_EXISTS(foo/bar)}?2:3) |
08:20.45 | argos73 | perfect |
08:20.53 | DarkFlibble | quick question... I am getting the caller id in my agi... but not in the ${CALLERID} variables... why could this be happening? |
08:20.56 | drumkilla | :) |
08:21.27 | DarkFlibble | its also known to be send (in the IAX debug...) |
08:21.50 | DarkFlibble | hmmm... |
08:22.16 | DarkFlibble | is ${CALLERID} one of the variables that was converted to a function in 1.2? |
08:23.07 | zoa | yes |
08:23.09 | zoa | just a sec |
08:23.33 | zoa | http://www.asteriskguru.com/tutorials/dialplan_functions.html |
08:23.35 | drumkilla | yes, but CALLERID wasn't removed ... |
08:24.37 | DarkFlibble | found the changes.... its been almost a year since I left asterisk to work on other projects so I wasn't uptodate with the changes |
08:24.50 | DarkFlibble | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk+func+callerid is what I needed |
08:26.37 | drumkilla | or just 'show function CALLERID' :) |
08:28.07 | DarkFlibble | yeah... wasn't aware that the old method was long gone |
08:28.17 | DarkFlibble | :) |
08:28.23 | drumkilla | it's not |
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08:28.29 | drumkilla | or sholdn't be ...... |
08:28.29 | drumkilla | :) |
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08:30.22 | power1 | Any1 here using a tdm400p and asterisk @ home, I want to make only cpecific sip phones ring based on which fxo channel on the digium card the incoming call originates on...can any1 help? |
08:30.53 | drumkilla | DarkFlibble: yeah, they're still there ... |
08:31.15 | DarkFlibble | didn't work on my box... |
08:31.20 | DarkFlibble | hmmm... no matter... |
08:31.28 | DarkFlibble | the new method will be fine |
08:32.23 | Qwell | zoa: works good, except the whole oss thing |
08:32.27 | Qwell | oss vs alsa, that is |
08:33.07 | zoa | explain ? |
08:33.31 | Qwell | dunno, oss is old school |
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08:34.02 | zoa | it doesnt work with alsa ? |
08:34.37 | Qwell | It wants /dev/dsp |
08:34.52 | Qwell | alsa uses stuff in /dev/sound/ |
08:35.17 | zoa | aha |
08:35.28 | zoa | we could probably fix it by using a newer portaudio |
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08:36.40 | zoa | how do you like it for the rest ? |
08:36.46 | zoa | euh |
08:36.47 | Qwell | looks great |
08:36.49 | zoa | that was not english |
08:36.56 | zoa | working fine ? |
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08:37.14 | Qwell | well, I haven't tested the audio...my soundcard is flaking out on me. nothing will play audio right now |
08:37.49 | zoa | ah damn |
08:38.37 | Qwell | but, the others guys are...they had real problems with iaxcomm...they say this is working much better |
08:38.42 | Qwell | and a lot cleaner looking to boot |
08:38.49 | zoa | cool |
08:41.36 | power1 | <PROTECTED> |
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08:56.17 | Mag1KaL | What are the requirments to be able to play mp3s?I want some on hold music but I'm just not getting any... |
09:00.17 | NewSole | hmm |
09:02.04 | DarkFlibble | Mag1KaL, it used to be one specific version of the mpg decoder... I'm not sure if that is still true |
09:02.43 | zoa | mpg123, version 0.59r is needed |
09:07.38 | argos73 | drumkilla: after some drunken coding, the DB_EXISTS thing works nicely. thanks |
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09:11.09 | DarkFlibble | Mag1KaL, if you can't find it I should have a staticly compiled version knocking around |
09:20.54 | Mag1KaL | No I found it and installed it. Does Asterisk need a recompile though? |
09:21.18 | DarkFlibble | nope |
09:21.55 | DarkFlibble | hmmm... my moh breaks up a little unless I press a button... then its perfect... |
09:22.10 | DarkFlibble | not sure of the cause of that |
09:22.50 | Mag1KaL | It works ;P |
09:23.43 | DarkFlibble | puttimg a wait in seems to work |
09:23.53 | DarkFlibble | stops the break up |
09:24.28 | Mag1KaL | Hm, it only works when my SIP softphone asks my IAX one to hold... |
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09:30.00 | RoyK | morning |
09:30.10 | Mag1KaL | Hello |
09:30.19 | Mag1KaL | Crap it is morning. |
09:37.06 | DarkFlibble | its 9:30... of course its morning |
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09:38.01 | Mag1KaL | 4AM here |
09:39.17 | dmz | can i ask a user question here, or should it goto #asterisk-users? |
09:40.58 | power1 | I want to make only specific sip phones ring based on which fxo channel on the digium card the incoming call originates on...can any1 help? |
09:42.12 | DarkFlibble | dmz, not many people in #asterisk-userrs |
09:42.39 | dmz | yeah nooone there |
09:42.54 | dmz | that's why i wanted to ask here :) |
09:43.06 | dmz | kinda wierd that noone is in asterisk-users |
09:43.43 | DarkFlibble | brb... phone |
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10:06.55 | dmz | ok i'm just going to ask (since noone is @ asterisk-users)...i have asterisk going in my colo on a public IP, am playing with twinkle and know it works great with local net asterisk. i setup twinkle to use my coloip as the gateway, can dial voicemail, meetme, etc...but my dtmf isn't being picked up by the asterisk server..any suggestions? |
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10:21.15 | dmz | doh, ignore that. i had dtmf settings screwed up. now just gotta get my dial plans together :) yeah |
10:21.21 | DarkFlibble | lol |
10:21.29 | DarkFlibble | was just reading your problme |
10:21.39 | dmz | i feel stupid |
10:21.50 | dmz | guess that's what i get for drinking while setting it up |
10:21.56 | dmz | ok, time for some scotch to celebrate |
10:22.03 | DarkFlibble | whats twinkle? |
10:22.16 | DarkFlibble | ahh... linux softphone |
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10:26.03 | dmz | yeah |
10:28.01 | dmz | is there any easy way to debug the dialplan/extensions? i think i have fwd & iaxtel in ok, but don't know if the calls i'm making are making it to those contexts.. |
10:29.13 | Qwell | zoa: still around? |
10:29.20 | dmz | ahh i think i get it...hmm pulling off too many #s, ignore me i'm going to drink now |
10:29.33 | DarkFlibble | add NoOp(myextname) as the first pritority |
10:30.20 | DarkFlibble | can't type... |
10:30.26 | DarkFlibble | keep tpyoing |
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10:38.41 | dmz | :( iax2 & fwd both keep saying circuit busy :( oh well something for tomorrow |
10:40.42 | DarkFlibble | changes in FWDs IAX config (enbling/disabling) can take a while to kick in... |
10:40.55 | DarkFlibble | use SIP until they do... |
10:41.11 | DarkFlibble | since you can have multiple registrations on FWD |
10:42.41 | RoyK | zoa: ping |
10:42.45 | RoyK | ~seen zoa |
10:42.53 | jbot | zoa is currently on #asterisk (1d 2h 27m 46s). Has said a total of 140 messages. Is idling for 1h 40m 10s, last said: 'mpg123, version 0.59r is needed'. |
10:42.56 | DarkFlibble | ~seen DarkFlib |
10:42.57 | jbot | darkflib <darkflib@dialup357.ts002.bmt.esat.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #asterisk, 320d 12h 37m 40s ago, saying: 'depends if you have an answer before you dial the sip phone'. |
10:43.22 | DarkFlibble | a while ago... |
10:50.09 | dmz | ah, any info on sip setup? and same for iax setup time? |
10:53.47 | dmz | i'll try again tomorrow, need sleep :) (i tried changing to SIP/...sip.fwdnet.net and it said still conjested) |
10:54.35 | RoyK | shit. 10 hours of asterisk debug logging == 2GB |
10:54.57 | dmz | ouch |
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11:07.31 | raybo | hello |
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11:07.53 | raybo | anyone have any experience with Japanese J1 circuits? |
11:09.17 | raybo | I am trying to get a J1 PRI connected and working, but I seem to be having an issue with signaling |
11:11.18 | pepzi_ | I'm trying to get rxfax working, when I dial (from my normal sipphone) an internal extension that is answering and executing rxfax, I hear fax tones.. but when I try to use rxfax in my from-pstn context and call my pstn-number, asterisk picks up the call, and executes rxfax, but no signals are heard.. oh, and I'm using alaw |
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11:14.41 | CPC | what should I install before install asterisk? |
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11:21.45 | RoyK | CPC: install linux |
11:22.20 | RoyK | lol |
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11:24.31 | raybo | sorry pepzi_ never used rxfax before. Have you tried ulaw? |
11:24.38 | CPC | ok but...what libs may I have to install? |
11:24.55 | raybo | libpri |
11:25.10 | CPC | just it? |
11:25.15 | pepzi_ | raybo: yes.. and what is most strange is that it worked a couple of months ago before I upgraded to * 1.2.1 and forgot about rxfax until now |
11:25.35 | CPC | what about ncurses, ncurses-devel, openssl, etc??? |
11:25.42 | raybo | well there are three things; first libpri, second zaptel and last asterisk |
11:26.02 | raybo | all that was installed at the time I installed Slackware 10.2 |
11:26.09 | CPC | what does libpri means? |
11:26.23 | raybo | pepzi_, I may have an idea for you then |
11:26.43 | raybo | look at the asterisk.org web site it is on the right side |
11:27.11 | raybo | pepzi_, I have had issues like yours when upgrading before |
11:28.27 | CPC | thx |
11:29.46 | raybo | pepzi_, when i have had issues before I removed all the files in /usr/lib/asterisk/modules then did a make install in libpri, zaptel and asterisk |
11:30.17 | raybo | seems some of them do not get overwritten when you are upgrading |
11:31.29 | pepzi_ | raybo: i'm only using SIP and IAX, but I might as well go through modules :) thanks |
11:32.36 | raybo | just a thought as I have hit that wall twice now |
11:32.47 | pepzi_ | :) |
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11:44.26 | CPC | should I install anything special to conecct 2 * servers using IAX?? |
11:45.19 | raybo | If they are on RFC1918 address space then no, but if they are on public then you should generate public keys and use those. |
11:46.07 | CPC | what is RFC1918? |
11:46.21 | CPC | they are in the same net |
11:46.34 | raybo | it is the RFC that describes private ip address space |
11:46.58 | raybo | sometimes called "fake" or "private" or "non-routable" |
11:47.09 | CPC | yeap |
11:47.23 | CPC | we are using private IP |
11:47.34 | CPC | static IP |
11:47.42 | Guggemand | in other words, if they are reachable from the public net, use keys |
11:47.59 | raybo | yes |
11:48.09 | CPC | ok |
11:48.31 | CPC | thean I dont have to do anythig special...Am I right? |
11:48.55 | CPC | i have just to configure iax.conf and extensions.conf...all roght? |
11:50.14 | raybo | yes |
11:50.28 | raybo | my iax.conf for one side looks like this: |
11:50.31 | raybo | [asterisk05] |
11:50.31 | raybo | type=user |
11:50.31 | raybo | user=asterisk01 |
11:50.31 | raybo | host=192.168.202.6 |
11:50.31 | raybo | auth=rsa |
11:50.32 | raybo | inkeys=asterisk-05 |
11:50.34 | raybo | outkey=asterisk-01 |
11:50.36 | raybo | context=office5 |
11:50.38 | raybo | sendani=yes |
11:50.40 | raybo | qualify=yes |
11:50.42 | raybo | callerid="2024561414" |
11:50.44 | raybo | trunk=yes |
11:50.46 | raybo | permit=192.168.202.0/255.255.255.0 |
11:50.53 | raybo | the keys are stored in /var/lib/asterisk/keys/ |
11:51.06 | RoyK | ~pb |
11:51.12 | jbot | methinks pb is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.com/, or http://pastebin.ca |
11:51.32 | raybo | sorry |
11:53.38 | CPC | raybo, thanks |
11:57.01 | CPC | how to see what is send throght pb? |
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12:01.42 | nibbler_ | hi |
12:01.48 | DarkFlibble | basicly they paste into pastebin and post a link to the entry... |
12:01.58 | DarkFlibble | then people visit it and comment... |
12:02.08 | DarkFlibble | cuts down on the spam in channel... |
12:02.13 | DarkFlibble | nibbler_, hi |
12:03.36 | nibbler_ | so... how do i tell zaptel (using a hfc card) what number to send? |
12:03.40 | DarkFlibble | nibbler_, where you based? |
12:03.45 | nibbler_ | germany. |
12:03.50 | nibbler_ | dtag. |
12:05.54 | DarkFlibble | to be honest I have little experience with zaptel... completely ip here |
12:08.51 | DarkFlibble | I worked out that for £9.99 (line rental on an unbundled analogue line) I could make an awful large amount of phone calls if I just used a equivilent DID and spend the rental on minutes instead |
12:09.33 | nibbler_ | uhuhm ;) but in .de you have to subscribe for an isdn contract too if you want adsl |
12:09.37 | DarkFlibble | also I have 3 mobile phones for emergency services |
12:09.37 | nibbler_ | suckers... |
12:10.05 | DarkFlibble | isdn and adsl? its analogue lines and adsl in the UK |
12:10.24 | DarkFlibble | but I'm on cable.... so no adsl required |
12:10.58 | DarkFlibble | 90% of lines in the UK are analogue... |
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12:11.35 | DarkFlibble | generally the only people with ISDN are the people who needed fast internet before broadband... or businesses that can't get broadband... |
12:11.35 | nibbler_ | cable here sucks - the tariff includes 5gb (they even call it 'fair-flatrate') for ~30eur/mon, the additional gb costs arround 10eur orso |
12:12.14 | DarkFlibble | hmmm... 3Mbit here with 75Gig/mo but they don't complain if you go over |
12:12.28 | DarkFlibble | for £35/mo |
12:12.31 | DarkFlibble | iirc |
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12:14.31 | DarkFlibble | I suppose that goes to show the difference between the EU and UK markets |
12:14.33 | kio | or people using teleconferencing alot |
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12:15.20 | nibbler_ | uhuhm. at least in germany isdn is massively pushed |
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12:15.43 | DarkFlibble | it makes sense to get rid of analogue lines where possible.... |
12:15.55 | nibbler_ | they used to give you ~300eur off if you bought some smaller size pbx together with your isdn contract |
12:15.59 | CPC | how is the business to people who now asterisk? |
12:16.00 | kio | don't remember but isdn is 128kb up / down with 1 voice? |
12:16.08 | DarkFlibble | but unfortunately many of the cables in the UK are over 30 years old... |
12:16.33 | DarkFlibble | kio, ISDN == 64kbit/channel |
12:16.52 | nibbler_ | kio: isdn is 3 channels, 2 channels of 64k (duplex) for voice or data (b channels), and one 9,6k channel (d-channel) for signalling data |
12:17.02 | kio | ya |
12:17.03 | DarkFlibble | BRI (domestic ISDN) is 2 B channels + a 16Kbit D channel |
12:17.11 | nibbler_ | or 16k yup |
12:17.17 | nibbler_ | 9,6 is incorrect |
12:17.48 | kio | we at the office still maintain 1 isdn for conferencing, weird |
12:17.54 | DarkFlibble | PRI is 23? B channels (US) or 30 B channels EU + a 64kbit D channel |
12:17.57 | CPC | how many active channel may i have with an high speed connection..like 600 Kbps?? |
12:18.06 | nibbler_ | dark: correct |
12:18.25 | DarkFlibble | CPC, depends on the codecs you use... |
12:18.32 | nibbler_ | CPC: there exists mlppp (multilink ppp) which allows you to bond $number of channels |
12:18.41 | CPC | what is the most commom used? |
12:18.41 | DarkFlibble | CPC, also you need the same bandwidth in both directions |
12:18.42 | nibbler_ | where $number is from 2-infinite ;) |
12:18.48 | nibbler_ | CPC: two. |
12:19.07 | CPC | wow god, just 2?? |
12:19.07 | nibbler_ | since bri (basic rate interface) features 2 b channels. |
12:19.44 | DarkFlibble | its rare that you bond more than 1 R |
12:19.54 | DarkFlibble | 1 PRI worth of B channels |
12:20.02 | nibbler_ | for more than two you would need pri (primary rate interfaces) which are usually more expensive than adsl/sdsl or classic e1 (where technicially pri is structured e1 methinks) |
12:20.37 | DarkFlibble | ISDN is dedicated bandwidth tho... |
12:20.55 | DarkFlibble | ADSL/Cable is normally shared between everyone and his dog in your area |
12:21.10 | nibbler_ | that is incorrect (technicially) |
12:21.25 | nibbler_ | cable is shared since it's one shared medium, yes |
12:21.27 | DarkFlibble | technically yes... |
12:22.13 | DarkFlibble | there is normally contention at the switch for ADSL with each loop being dedicated... |
12:22.34 | DarkFlibble | and cable is shared broadband signalled channel... |
12:22.41 | DarkFlibble | but the effect is the same... |
12:22.42 | nibbler_ | but adsl is a dedicated connection to a dslam and there's no reason why a telco shouldn't use the bandwith he needs to fulfill all customers at a dslam, stm-16 linecards are cheap |
12:23.06 | Guggemand | ive never tried not getting my full bandwith on my adsl |
12:23.47 | nibbler_ | and more than >2gbit/s on a single dslam is unusual ;) |
12:24.50 | DarkFlibble | but I'm an IP guy... analogue makes me feel dirty... |
12:24.53 | DarkFlibble | :P |
12:25.00 | nibbler_ | uhuhm ,) |
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12:25.29 | nibbler_ | connecting my parents' fax to the hicom pbx here ;) |
12:25.57 | DarkFlibble | never really been exposed to that large an amount of telco equipment... |
12:26.19 | DarkFlibble | give me IP switches and routers anyday |
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12:28.36 | Cleyverson | hey guys how is the market place to people who know linux and asterisk?? |
12:29.03 | DarkFlibble | not bad... I've got 3 things in the last 4 days from hanging out here... |
12:29.04 | DarkFlibble | :P |
12:29.05 | zoa | nibbler_: do you know of any home built dslams? |
12:29.15 | nibbler_ | zoa: look at ebay ;) |
12:29.29 | zoa | i'm interested in making one from scratch :) |
12:30.07 | nibbler_ | zoa: that's some work in deed. unless you want to do something like a sdsl to sdsl connection - that can be easily acomplished with 2 sdsl modems |
12:30.26 | nibbler_ | Cleyverson: here's some job: earn $5 in cash for making my caller-id with zaptel work ;) *scnr* |
12:30.59 | Cleyverson | lol |
12:31.34 | Cleyverson | wow my jesus, i'm gonna be rich.. :) |
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12:32.02 | zoa | nibbler, how is that |
12:32.09 | zoa | can you do that on normal telephone lines ? |
12:32.30 | nibbler_ | zoa: on an ordinary double-copper-wire line, yes. |
12:32.42 | zoa | does the telco need to change something for that ? |
12:32.47 | zoa | got an url for such modems ? |
12:32.54 | X-Files | ppls,why EYEBEAM 1.1.3010n not work normal in ASTERISK ??? (not support Messager, Online Status Contacts) |
12:33.16 | zoa | because asterisk doesnt support all that |
12:33.19 | nibbler_ | the telco just needs to _directly_ connect 'your' 2 copper wires with the 2 copper wires of the person you want to exchange data with |
12:33.27 | nibbler_ | that has nothing to do with asterisk |
12:33.46 | zoa | <zoa> because asterisk doesnt support all that -> was for x-files |
12:33.49 | nibbler_ | asterisk is a pbx - what i'm talking about is two copper wires - no more, no less |
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12:33.58 | zoa | i know i know |
12:34.03 | nibbler_ | ok ;) |
12:34.05 | zoa | just said that for xfiles |
12:34.11 | nibbler_ | ah, i see. |
12:34.13 | zoa | i'd love to try thatr |
12:34.53 | nibbler_ | i think the devices i've seen in such a setup were efficient networks speedstream sdsl modems |
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12:35.26 | nibbler_ | if you get used ones from the german a/sdsl operator qsc the password is "pritt-stift" (in some variation i think) |
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12:35.57 | zoa | but for sdsl you need a leased line ? |
12:36.22 | nibbler_ | you need a directly connected copper wire. |
12:36.25 | zoa | what are the chances the belgian telco would block us from using my own sdsl to sdsl connection ? |
12:36.35 | nibbler_ | 95%? ;) |
12:36.42 | zoa | :) |
12:37.26 | nibbler_ | but as soon as you send some higher voltage (pulsing is a good idea) into the line their coils will go bananas and they'll eventually remove them ;) |
12:37.38 | nibbler_ | that at least is the default procedure here in .de |
12:38.12 | X-Files | zoa: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/VOIP+Phones , Xten eyebeam SIP video soft phone; with SUBSCRIBE / NOTIFY support (BLF) |
12:38.23 | X-Files | zoa: i see supported ! |
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12:39.46 | zoa | hey ho areski |
12:39.57 | areski | Hello Jo |
12:40.04 | areski | zoa, how r u doing ? |
12:40.24 | zoa | fine, you ? |
12:40.33 | areski | I wanna cure my hangover |
12:40.47 | areski | v been drinking too much yesterday |
12:42.33 | zoa | haha |
12:43.02 | Guggemand | X-Files eyebeam supports video yes, but not when connected to asterisk |
12:43.21 | zoa | i think it supports video to asterisk too |
12:43.23 | zoa | kind of |
12:43.25 | zoa | some things |
12:43.38 | Guggemand | okay, not messenger and online status then :) |
12:43.39 | areski | zoa, do u know if there an other astricon in europe this year? |
12:43.46 | X-Files | Guggemand: video supported in asterisk. |
12:43.51 | zoa | in oktober i think |
12:43.52 | X-Files | :) |
12:44.01 | wizard545 | any providers out there that have 8xx did's? |
12:44.36 | areski | Guggemand, I ve been using eyebeam for awhile |
12:44.47 | areski | and yes it s support video with asterisk |
12:44.54 | h3x | you mean 8YY |
12:45.06 | h3x | 8XX also includes area codes that start with 8 :) |
12:45.06 | wizard545 | 800 - 866 - 877 |
12:45.15 | X-Files | areski: messages and contacts status worked you ? |
12:45.15 | wizard545 | yea.. |
12:45.40 | Guggemand | areski, i kinda got that when the 2 other people told me too :P |
12:45.46 | areski | I never need them |
12:46.34 | wizard545 | areski are you part of the a2billing project? |
12:46.38 | X-Files | ;< |
12:46.57 | areski | wilymage, I am the only one working on this :D |
12:47.26 | areski | wilymage, are u using it ? |
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12:47.46 | wizard545 | you mean me? |
12:47.50 | wizard545 | or wilymage |
12:47.52 | areski | yes |
12:48.00 | wizard545 | I am using a2billing |
12:48.03 | wizard545 | just got it all setup |
12:48.08 | wizard545 | you the developer? |
12:48.11 | areski | yup |
12:48.25 | wizard545 | nice software man |
12:48.25 | wizard545 | really like it |
12:48.26 | areski | thx u :D |
12:48.34 | areski | next release coming soon |
12:48.41 | wizard545 | what new features? |
12:48.58 | areski | it would be a surprise :) |
12:49.09 | wizard545 | haha |
12:49.12 | areski | got plain of funny stuff |
12:49.57 | DarkFlibble | wizard545, what DIDs in that area did you want? |
12:50.03 | DarkFlibble | just toll-free? |
12:50.07 | wizard545 | yea |
12:50.31 | DarkFlibble | nufone does them for $2.50/mo + 2c/min incoming... |
12:50.41 | DarkFlibble | but there services isn't the best in the world |
12:51.25 | DarkFlibble | the website has been 'in progress' for 2 years with little change... and their support can take a couple of days to get back to you... |
12:51.49 | DarkFlibble | but still... if they are working they keep working... |
12:51.54 | wizard545 | DarkFlibble, ok, that's not a bad cost though |
12:52.01 | DarkFlibble | I know.. |
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12:52.12 | DarkFlibble | got 4 myself with them |
12:52.33 | DarkFlibble | so noone accuse me of bias |
12:52.35 | DarkFlibble | :P |
12:52.45 | nibbler_ | is there a capi support for asterisk 1.2.1 and later? |
12:53.32 | wizard545 | DarkFlibble, so it's only 2/c nothing else? that's almost the same as a regular DID |
12:53.56 | DarkFlibble | 2c incoming.. + monthly rental... |
12:54.04 | DarkFlibble | pretty similar to most other DIDs |
12:54.17 | wizard545 | nice |
12:54.21 | DarkFlibble | I can show my records if you need |
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12:54.38 | wizard545 | naw, but for a calling card business, it would be how much outgoing? |
12:55.21 | DarkFlibble | outgoing doesn't need to be the same as incoming... |
12:55.40 | wizard545 | what kind of per minute can I get for outgoing? |
12:55.47 | wizard545 | cheapest |
12:56.03 | DarkFlibble | depends on destination |
12:56.15 | wizard545 | USA 48 only |
12:57.12 | DarkFlibble | nufone are fairly competitive... but there are a *lot* of alternatives... it depends on the number of minutes you push to what pricing is doable |
12:57.33 | wizard545 | ahh ok |
12:58.28 | DarkFlibble | pointless me quoting since I'm EU based |
12:58.47 | wizard545 | ahh ok |
13:01.30 | wizard545 | DarkFibble is nufone iax or sip |
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13:07.53 | cyber | alo guys |
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13:25.08 | wizard545 | would broadvoice catch a high outgoing volume? |
13:26.45 | cyber | wizard it depends on the codec and the broadband speed |
13:27.21 | wizard545 | which codec would be best |
13:28.17 | cyber | 723 uses less bandwidth |
13:28.24 | cyber | 729 has good quality |
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13:28.42 | wizard545 | gotcha |
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13:29.48 | DarkFlibble | wizard545, they do iax |
13:30.27 | DarkFlibble | broadvoice aren't good at detecting people abusing them... (at least from what I have seen and read) |
13:30.55 | RoyK | eer.r |
13:30.56 | RoyK | 15 active channels |
13:30.56 | RoyK | 49 active calls |
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13:34.45 | wizard545 | DarkFibble, time to signup a couple unlimited accounts |
13:34.58 | wizard545 | anyone know how many concurrent calls they allow? |
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13:35.34 | cyber | with unlimited account only 1 |
13:35.54 | wizard545 | ahh ok |
13:36.45 | RoyK | 29 packets transmitted, 20 packets received, 31% packet loss |
13:36.45 | RoyK | round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 763.161/2128.823/6189.705/1375.203 ms |
13:36.50 | RoyK | nice for VoIP |
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14:09.33 | lesouvage | Can somebody point me to a list with the most commenly used voiceprompt or a list with the voiceprompt related to applications. |
14:10.13 | De_Mon | whats a voiceprompt? |
14:11.27 | lesouvage | De_Mon:: a .gsm file played by asterisk, like "Something is terribly wrong, goodby" |
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14:12.31 | lesouvage | I wrote a routine to record them yourselve but adding almost a thousand voiceprompts makes it kind of unusable and worthless. |
14:13.17 | [TK]D-Fender | lesouvage : You want a list of promts that other people might use that we don't already have? |
14:14.28 | lesouvage | D-Fender: No, I'm looking for a file of the most commonly used English voiceprompts so I can translate them and made myself, with the routine, a Dutch version.. |
14:14.57 | [TK]D-Fender | lesouvage : How about just taking the ones * already uses and doing them? |
14:15.56 | zoa | lesouvage: a dutch version already exists |
14:16.20 | lesouvage | D-Fender: that's what I want but it would be handy to have them written out in a .txt or .doc file. I have a list but it has around a thousand voiceprompt and that is much more then usefull. |
14:16.21 | zoa | http://www.asteriskguru.com/board/nederlandstalige-prompts-voor-asterisk-vt81.html |
14:19.22 | lesouvage | zoa: I kknow about the Tric vocepromts set, it's nice and of good quality but it's not complete. Somethimes an English phrase shows up.And I think it's nice to have an easy way to make all the voiceprompt (standard and custimized) with the same voice. But thanks for the link.. |
14:20.12 | pepsis | i have a * box with 3 X100P cards (not clones). I can only get 1 PSTN line to work for outbound. can someone point me to docs on how this should work? |
14:21.40 | [TK]D-Fender | pepsis : Do you see the cards in in ztcfg? |
14:21.50 | lesouvage | pepsis: be sure that they all have a interrupt of there own. Your zapata.conf should have a line something like channels => 1 - 3. |
14:21.54 | [TK]D-Fender | and in cat /proc/interrupts? |
14:22.06 | X-Files | [TK]D-Fender: hello |
14:23.32 | pepsis | <PROTECTED> |
14:23.48 | pepsis | they all share 1 interrupt it appears |
14:24.02 | wizard545 | can you setup asterisk to work wioth skype? so my asterisk can call skype people |
14:24.17 | lesouvage | pepsis: at the and of the [channel] part. "channels" is wrong this should be "channel" |
14:25.04 | lesouvage | pepsis: wth 3 x100p cards on 1 interrupt it is not going to work. |
14:25.18 | pepsis | is there a way to force them to use different interrupts? |
14:25.20 | [TK]D-Fender | pepsis : Ok, sharing interrupts is bad, but lets see if its something else. Show us your dial line for outbound zap calls, and your zapata.conf |
14:25.23 | [TK]D-Fender | use pastebin! |
14:25.24 | [TK]D-Fender | ~pb |
14:25.32 | jbot | from memory, pb is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.com/, or http://pastebin.ca |
14:25.42 | [TK]D-Fender | pepsis : You need to try and do that in your motherboard BIOS |
14:26.07 | pepsis | i am using the "Asterisk@Home 2.2" distribution |
14:26.15 | lesouvage | D-finder: I just finished the bios line:) |
14:26.52 | pepsis | i think im gonna have to change the system its in then. i was hoping to use a compact machine in a nice SFF case, but don't have t. |
14:26.54 | pepsis | don't have to. |
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14:27.15 | lesouvage | pepsis: do you have other cards in your pc that you don't need for an asterisk box. You should remove this cards. |
14:27.33 | h3x | how did you find a sff case with 3 pci slots |
14:27.55 | pepsis | im magical. :) (link coming9 |
14:28.17 | pepsis | http://www.andovercg.com/ebay/images/bor-0119.jpg |
14:28.36 | h3x | heh |
14:28.42 | h3x | are you trying to use this with a via epia mobo |
14:28.44 | h3x | asterisk that is |
14:28.54 | pepsis | http://pastebin.ca/37811 |
14:29.09 | pepsis | no, its a compaq d510 with an 815 chipset |
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14:29.13 | h3x | oh |
14:29.22 | h3x | no wonder. thats worse |
14:29.22 | h3x | heh |
14:29.29 | h3x | f'n compuke |
14:29.37 | QbY | are there any IAX2 hardphones that are worth recommending?? |
14:29.50 | h3x | no |
14:29.51 | pepsis | normally i agree...but its not the presario crap, its the deskpro en series. |
14:30.02 | h3x | dude. its compaq. |
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14:30.12 | pepsis | h3x, use one. :) |
14:30.19 | zoa | QbY: yes |
14:30.20 | h3x | duuuude.. its still compaq. |
14:30.22 | zoa | the st 302 |
14:30.24 | zoa | quite good |
14:30.30 | [TK]D-Fender | pepsis : Ok, using AMP.. *bad*. We need the "included" flles in there too... and your DIAL line <- |
14:30.33 | zoa | better than the gxp2000 |
14:30.48 | QbY | zoa.. you have a link? |
14:31.14 | zoa | http://www.voipsolutions.be/product_info.php/products_id/206 |
14:31.21 | zoa | i dont know the full name of the phone though |
14:31.28 | zoa | something chinese probably |
14:31.31 | pepsis | [TK]D-Fender, weird thing happened, i had 2 of the x100p cards plugged into 2 local POTS lines. when the phone rang, it hit my extension without any configuration and it passed along the Caller ID too. |
14:31.47 | pepsis | so something weird is going on. i can't seperate the different x100p cards. its showing them as one card. :( |
14:32.05 | zoa | pepsis, give up on AMP |
14:32.14 | [TK]D-Fender | pepsis : Thats hard to say... you're running AMP and not showing us anything USEFUL. |
14:32.20 | zoa | i tried amp yesterday |
14:32.31 | pepsis | well then. would i be further to wipe the box and stick a real distribution like sarge on it? |
14:32.42 | pepsis | i was hoping to be able to do it all from a browser. :) |
14:32.46 | zoa | is a gui really supposed to be "giving a hard way to configure something simple ?" |
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14:33.57 | [TK]D-Fender | zoa : The ST 302 looks like jsut another craptastic PA168(8) chipset phone.... |
14:34.04 | h3x | haha craptastic |
14:34.05 | h3x | hahahaha |
14:34.09 | zoa | it is the same chipset |
14:34.13 | zoa | but its not the same junk |
14:34.15 | lesouvage | pepsis: you can try xorcom. It's debian, ready for use and with usefull tools in case of problems with configuration. |
14:34.15 | zoa | we are quite happy with it |
14:34.26 | h3x | snom rules. |
14:34.28 | zoa | true |
14:34.29 | pepsis | gonna give xorcom a shot |
14:34.31 | h3x | atacomm sells the 360 for $199 now |
14:34.32 | zoa | but this phone is cheap |
14:34.37 | h3x | 320 is like 179 |
14:34.39 | zoa | and better than the gxp2000 |
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14:34.47 | pepsis | i figure that once i'm setup and working with *, I will save about $150/month |
14:34.51 | zoa | thats in the us, here they cost double |
14:34.51 | zoa | :) |
14:34.54 | pepsis | so its worth the time. :) |
14:35.10 | zoa | pepsis, pay me to configure it each month :p |
14:36.03 | QbY | zoa.. i can't seem to find a us reseller.. do you know of one? |
14:36.15 | pepsis | zoa, each month? why not do it right the first time. ;) |
14:36.17 | zoa | no sorry |
14:36.20 | zoa | haha |
14:36.26 | zoa | depends maybe you want changes |
14:36.48 | zoa | first step i do for free, which is deleting AMP :p |
14:36.57 | h3x | its people like zoa that cause the message "Please listen to the following menu options as our extensions have recently changed" |
14:37.03 | h3x | to happen |
14:37.13 | pepsis | yea...i hate those messages |
14:37.17 | coppice | soa: who makes the ST320? |
14:37.31 | pepsis | shit, if i wasn't listening, how would i know what options were there? why tell me to do what im doing already |
14:37.33 | h3x | why dosent anybody make a t.38 fax machine yet. |
14:37.42 | zoa | haha |
14:37.49 | h3x | ethernet and power |
14:37.55 | zoa | coppice : i have no clue |
14:37.58 | zoa | tried to find it |
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14:38.04 | zoa | but there is nothing written on the phones |
14:38.08 | h3x | oh i know why |
14:38.08 | zoa | it might be siptronic or so |
14:38.11 | h3x | coz nobody sells t.38 service |
14:38.19 | coppice | h3x: I can't imagine why anyone would want to, really |
14:38.21 | QbY | ST-302 is made by Siptronic |
14:38.30 | h3x | coz |
14:38.34 | zoa | but i think siptronic might just be rebranded |
14:38.35 | h3x | then it could be a printserver too for your LAN |
14:38.42 | h3x | multifunction machine |
14:39.10 | zigman | h3x there is no market to t.38 termination right now |
14:39.18 | QbY | i need to come up with a way to get two phones into an employees house--i'm looking at the IAXy, is that a good idea.. they'll need stuff like transfer, music on hold, etc.. |
14:39.22 | h3x | speaking of, what the dilly with t.38 in iaxphone library |
14:39.25 | zigman | you would still need the analog line |
14:39.29 | h3x | iaxclient i mean |
14:39.43 | [TK]D-Fender | QbY : SPA-2002. $70 and thats it. |
14:39.50 | zigman | allthough a t.38 softfax modem for windows would be great |
14:39.54 | coppice | buy why t.38? t.37 makes more sense. there are a number of vaguely t.37 fax machines, although they don't seem to follow the standard properly |
14:40.10 | h3x | well |
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14:40.13 | coppice | zigman openh323 has one |
14:40.13 | zoa | why not use email :) |
14:40.20 | h3x | i like t.37 better too but |
14:40.25 | coppice | that is what t.37 does |
14:40.28 | zigman | coppice isn't that the same with t.30 ( following the standards) ;) |
14:40.37 | zigman | coppice ? |
14:40.43 | zigman | openh323 has one for linux |
14:40.46 | zigman | but not for windows |
14:40.54 | zigman | afaik |
14:40.55 | h3x | there is a softphone for windows that does t.38 |
14:40.59 | coppice | you can't actually follow t.30. its full of holes |
14:41.11 | zigman | h3x which one ? |
14:41.38 | QbY | [TK]D-Fender : So are you saying SIP would be better than IAX? And this device would support two phones behind a router? I thought IAX would be better because it doesn't require the port forwarding, etc.. |
14:41.52 | h3x | kapanga |
14:41.59 | h3x | kapanga.net |
14:42.15 | h3x | erm |
14:42.28 | pepsis | can asterisk do call-backs? like if i'm in another city, call my *, have it call me back at a specified number? |
14:42.33 | zoa | we didnt do any t.38 development in the last 2 months |
14:42.39 | zoa | pepsis: yes it can |
14:42.45 | coppice | I see a picture of the ST302. I've seen that case before with other things on it |
14:42.58 | [TK]D-Fender | QbY : You don't actually need port forwarding. the SIP keep-alives will keep the link up. how do you think Vonage used thousands of these type boxes to run their company otherwise? |
14:43.00 | pepsis | sweet. make a $0.25 call and have it call me back using vonage. ;) |
14:43.05 | zoa | yeah i think they have a zillion names |
14:43.10 | zoa | pepsis, or even better |
14:43.17 | zoa | have it recognize your callerid |
14:43.20 | zoa | but not pickup the line |
14:43.24 | zoa | and have it call you back |
14:43.32 | pepsis | that would be better |
14:43.56 | QbY | [TK]D-Fender - True. I've just always had problems it seems like with SIP (softphones) behind a router. |
14:44.23 | [TK]D-Fender | QbY : You need to set things properly on them, but I do it all the time |
14:44.28 | zigman | h3x thx |
14:44.57 | QbY | One last thing. What Analog phone would you recommend with this SPA2002--with hold buttons (that have use the moh) and transfer? |
14:45.00 | pepsis | zoa: no msg here. not registered. |
14:45.58 | coppice | its hard to tell who makes a lot of voip stuff. you look at some and thing another company made it, then you find they both make the chipset vendor's reference board without changes |
14:46.14 | [TK]D-Fender | QbY : Analog phones don't have those capabilities themselves. |
14:46.17 | zoa | yes |
14:46.18 | [TK]D-Fender | Thats the ATA's job |
14:46.59 | coppice | yeah. you tell the ATA what you want by typing morse on the DTMF keys :-) |
14:47.14 | [TK]D-Fender | QbY : Sipura's implement transfers / hold / etc through use of hook-flash and * codes. |
14:47.43 | QbY | hehe.. but there is no way i can buy a phone and program the "hold" and "Transfer" key? |
14:48.33 | [TK]D-Fender | QbY : Possible, but at that rate just put a real IP phone there. |
14:49.52 | QbY | [TK]D-Fender -- Excuse the dumb questions. But if I grab a few SIP phones and a Linksys router, both of those phones could be used simultaneously behind the router to our Asterisk server in another location? |
14:50.47 | [TK]D-Fender | QbY : Sure. Just let the phones and * know they're behind NAT, set them to different ports for signalling, and that should be it. |
14:50.59 | QbY | awesome |
14:52.16 | QbY | i wish they sold this stuff at office depot or best buy. |
14:53.05 | h3x | if they did it would cost $599 for a spa-941 phone |
14:53.11 | [TK]D-Fender | :O |
14:53.30 | QbY | hehe.. yeah.. i just want to get one and play today.. |
14:54.19 | [TK]D-Fender | from where I live I could walk to Gentek (who is a big distributer here) and stock up :) |
14:54.29 | QbY | everything seems bundled with CallVantage or Vonage |
14:54.46 | h3x | you can hack the vonage pap2 box |
14:55.07 | QbY | h3x.. you have any docs? |
14:55.18 | h3x | voip-info.org has plenty |
14:55.27 | h3x | you must do it with a virgin pap2 |
14:55.27 | QbY | i'm off to office depot |
14:55.37 | QbY | virgin meaning i just bought it from the store |
14:55.38 | h3x | dont plug it in the public internet til you hack it |
14:56.02 | QbY | k |
14:57.11 | [TK]D-Fender | QbY : Just buy from a normal reseller! |
14:57.20 | [TK]D-Fender | QbY : Save yourself the frustration. |
14:57.31 | h3x | actually |
14:57.43 | h3x | best buy and friends some times have instant rebates or gift certificates |
14:57.52 | QbY | time is of the essence.. i have to get them running by monday morning |
14:57.54 | h3x | i just bought one from best buy coz i have a business rewards card |
14:58.03 | h3x | and i got a $25 gift cert back on it |
15:00.20 | [TK]D-Fender | QbY : use a softphone and don't leave things to the last minute. |
15:00.37 | QbY | k. |
15:01.14 | [TK]D-Fender | QbY : Then monday morning place an order for some real phones. |
15:05.57 | |vinsik| | what is the best WLAN phone in your experience? |
15:06.09 | zoa | not the zyxel |
15:06.10 | zoa | Brrr |
15:06.12 | |vinsik| | i have tested: Saneo, Suncom, zyxel |
15:06.13 | zoa | zyxel |
15:06.24 | zoa | zyxel is something to warm your ears |
15:06.34 | zoa | and talk 5 minutes then have an empty battery |
15:06.37 | |vinsik| | yeah i got that opinion too. |
15:06.41 | zoa | or just leave it on standby for an hour |
15:06.45 | zoa | and have an empty battery |
15:06.58 | |vinsik| | one day max on my zyxel |
15:07.02 | lesouvage | soundquality of zyxel is great but battery live is kind of short. |
15:07.17 | zoa | how is saneo and suncom ? |
15:07.34 | |vinsik| | suncom a copy of zyxel but with less efficient processor |
15:07.40 | |vinsik| | cheaper :) |
15:07.47 | |vinsik| | sanoe is pretty good |
15:07.50 | |vinsik| | saneo |
15:08.01 | zoa | zyxel is good quality if you disable encryption |
15:08.02 | |vinsik| | battery life is good.. maximum online was 5 days |
15:08.06 | zoa | it just cant do the encryption |
15:08.06 | |vinsik| | without recharge |
15:08.09 | [TK]D-Fender | The only one I haven't heard was "crap" was the Hitachi WIP500 |
15:08.10 | zoa | got a url for the saneo ? |
15:08.23 | |vinsik| | uhhh |
15:08.24 | zoa | the wip500 is better, no ? |
15:08.27 | |vinsik| | ill check |
15:09.32 | |vinsik| | nope dont have it. |
15:09.38 | |vinsik| | it cost about 200e |
15:10.15 | |vinsik| | d-fender: u mean to say its good? |
15:11.15 | [TK]D-Fender | |vinsik| : No I mean to say that numerous others have NOT said its "crap". |
15:11.31 | |vinsik| | ok |
15:11.31 | [TK]D-Fender | I don't think there is one out now that should be considered "good" |
15:11.33 | zoa | aaah |
15:11.46 | zoa | got an url for the wip500 too ? |
15:11.51 | [TK]D-Fender | Its just "degress of meaning well" |
15:12.02 | |vinsik| | saneo's sound quality was good, and battery life was outstanding... |
15:12.10 | [TK]D-Fender | zoa : www.voipsupply.com |
15:12.29 | |vinsik| | but it looks kinda cheap .. |
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15:13.17 | zoa | its a wip5000 i think |
15:14.55 | lesouvage | Has anybody tried the zultys wifi phone? |
15:20.45 | tronix | any recommendations on a couple of decent SIP or IAX2 soft phones for Linux? i've got xtensoftphone and twinkle; any others? |
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15:24.55 | X-Files | need eyebeam 3010z |
15:25.00 | tronix | heh. slow day, I guess. I'll keep poking 'round. thanks. |
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16:33.24 | tronix | I've got xtensoftphone and twinkle. they can call each other ok, but xten is doing gsm and twinkle is doing ulaw |
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16:33.38 | tronix | I presume that's a problem? How do I make asterisk tell |
16:33.44 | tronix | both to do gsm or do ulaw? |
16:34.14 | JMcA | disallow=all |
16:34.18 | JMcA | allow=ulaw |
16:34.41 | JMcA | that limits you to *only* using ulaw |
16:34.52 | h3x | or just configure your client right |
16:34.55 | sm7xab | Hi! Anyone except me who is having problem with sound playback from asterisk on Gentoo? messages from the voicemail application are so bad that you can't hear what's beeing said... |
16:34.55 | JMcA | that too |
16:35.14 | sm7xab | I'm running Asterisk 1.0.10. |
16:35.54 | sm7xab | Have the same problem on two machines. Don?t think it's hardware related... |
16:36.04 | tronix | cool, thanks jmca/h3x |
16:36.27 | tronix | sm7xab: i'm running * on Gentoo, too, but unfortunately, i'm deaf so i'm useless with sound issues. :) sorry. :( |
16:36.52 | sm7xab | tronix: Oh! Too bad! |
16:37.04 | tronix | heh I'm just trying to get my TDD working with * |
16:37.12 | tronix | (45.5 bps baudot, pulse dialing, etc) |
16:37.33 | tronix | it's an interesting challenge. |
16:37.41 | brookshire | tronix: sarahem does a lot of work on that |
16:37.45 | X-Files | ppls,why EYEBEAM 1.1.3010n not work normal in ASTERISK ??? (not support Messager, Online Status Contacts) |
16:37.58 | brookshire | i wonder if i have her contact |
16:38.16 | JMcA | I suspect the biggest difficulty is the use of baudot vs. ascii |
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16:38.18 | tronix | jmca: they could. a friend wrote mac and windows programs to do TDD calling; main prereq was a modem w/dsp that could do a/d conversions -- not many of these modems around |
16:38.19 | DarkFlibble | sm7xab, I saw a similar issue on a machine yesterday... putting a wait(1) before voicemailmain seemed to cure it |
16:38.27 | tronix | jmca: but a winmodem, being a dsp, should be able to do the job |
16:38.40 | sm7xab | Darkhalf: I'll try that! |
16:38.50 | tronix | brookshir: oh? intereseting. thanks!! |
16:38.52 | JMcA | tronix: right...the old lucent winmodems had dsps...they shoulda been able to do it...but noone ever wrote the code to do it :/ |
16:39.10 | tronix | jmca: indeed. :( ah, well, that'd make for a good weekend project too ;) |
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16:40.01 | sm7xab | DarkFlibble: Can't be the problem here. have a wait 2 before VoicemailMain() |
16:40.16 | DarkFlibble | hmmm... |
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16:41.02 | DarkFlibble | whats the bandwidth like? also is the harddrive running at full throttle? |
16:42.10 | sm7xab | DarkFlibble: BW = 100Mbit FullDup. HD running att 100% on a Promise card. Same card worked wonders on old machine running * without any problem. |
16:42.42 | sm7xab | DarkFlibble: * running at "nice -15" with -p option. |
16:42.50 | DarkFlibble | hmmm... |
16:43.03 | DarkFlibble | how are you connecting to asterisk? |
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16:43.35 | DarkFlibble | and if you grab the messages via email or direct from the file system are they recorded properly? |
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16:44.04 | sm7xab | Darkhalf: Using a Vood VTA 111 PAP box. Also using Linksys PAP2 bax for connection. Normal speak phone ot phone work without a hitch. |
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16:44.31 | DarkFlibble | hmmm... speaker phone.. have you tried it on a normal handset? |
16:44.47 | sm7xab | DarkFlibble: Problem is that noone can record a message because the "please leave a message after the beep" is not decipherable by the llistener. |
16:45.23 | DarkFlibble | what about quality of other prompts and such? |
16:45.34 | DarkFlibble | is it limited to voice mail? |
16:46.02 | sm7xab | DarkFlibble: No prompts are decodable by ear. Same goes for Music on hold. |
16:46.37 | DarkFlibble | and normal calls, with and without reinvites? |
16:46.43 | NewSole | anyone know why keep getting chan_sip.c:1208 retrans_pkt: Maximum retries exceeded on transmission |
16:46.59 | NewSole | on every call that is |
16:47.08 | sm7xab | DarkFlibble: Normal calls work OK. Reinvite is something I don't know. |
16:47.41 | sm7xab | DarkFlibble: sip debug on, set verbose 4 = no indication of problem. Logfile is nice and empty. |
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16:48.33 | DarkFlibble | make a call and see if the codecs are the same... if not then there must be transcoding on the asterisk box... if they are then they *may* have the audio via the asterisk box or they may reinvite and send data direct... |
16:49.04 | wizard545 | anyone use sip broker? |
16:49.19 | DarkFlibble | wizard545, I was looking at it earlier... but not yet |
16:49.44 | wizard545 | DarkFlibble, correct me if i'm wrong, it allows free incoming? |
16:49.53 | wizard545 | People who have a PSTN phone (or a DID) can map that phone number to a SIP URI (for free at e164.org) |
16:49.54 | sm7xab | DarkFlibble: The only thing the two machines have in common is the processor type. P3. |
16:50.19 | DarkFlibble | sm7xab, I'm just trying to work out the boundry conditions of the problem... |
16:50.31 | DarkFlibble | we can narrow it down then... |
16:51.05 | DarkFlibble | wizard545, it is more of a way to switch between many different networks... a central peering point... at least at a cursory glance |
16:51.07 | sm7xab | DarkFlibble: I understand. That's why I add some information. I feel a bit frustrated about the problem... |
16:51.37 | DarkFlibble | sm7xab, I have had p3s running asterisk fine... |
16:51.53 | DarkFlibble | so the processor is not likely to be a big problme |
16:51.59 | wizard545 | oh i get it... |
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16:53.40 | DarkFlibble | wizard545, I need to maintain links to 5 seperate networks at present due to peering... a single point (of failure) might be an alternative... |
16:53.42 | sm7xab | DarkFlibble: I've set up several of them and all were working OK. These two last are stupid :-( |
16:53.44 | DarkFlibble | :P |
16:53.54 | DarkFlibble | sm7xab, what distro? |
16:54.08 | sm7xab | DarkFlibble: Gentoo. |
16:54.12 | DarkFlibble | wizard545, dundi is more tempting atm tho |
16:54.21 | DarkFlibble | sm7xab, hmmm... |
16:54.27 | wizard545 | yea.. |
16:54.37 | DarkFlibble | sm7xab, I don't know to be honest... |
16:55.29 | sm7xab | DarkFlibble: How stable is * 1.2.0 by now? Thinking of trying that one instead. Also thinking of recompiling my kernel to become preemptive. |
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16:55.58 | DarkFlibble | sm7xab, I haven't had any problems in the last few days, besides pebkac issues... :P |
16:57.17 | sm7xab | DarkFlibble: Last working version I had was 1.0.9. Think I'll tryout 1.2.0 instead. Thank's for the help! |
16:57.27 | DarkFlibble | np |
16:57.46 | DarkFlibble | its hard to debug when you can't test stuff yourself |
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17:05.09 | QbY | So I went to Office Depot, got a PAP2, Unlocked it. Excellent. One problem: My phone doesn't ring. The caller ID shows the call coming in, and I can answer it, but it doesn't Ring... Anyone ever experienced this? |
17:05.57 | QbY | hehe |
17:06.18 | tronix | which's a better codec -- ulaw or gsm? |
17:06.31 | tronix | I understand that g729 is better than both but licensed. |
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17:06.45 | tronix | ulaw seems more popular, tho? |
17:06.50 | tronix | (ulaw vs gsm) |
17:11.30 | eKo1 | I don't recommend ulaw if you have a bad connection |
17:11.30 | tronix | for fax traffic, i wouldn't use lossy like gsm but curious which folks likes better for voice traffic |
17:11.39 | tronix | interesting. thanks! |
17:11.51 | eKo1 | i'd use ulaw for everything except that i have bandwidth constraints |
17:11.57 | tronix | ahh makes sense. |
17:12.29 | tronix | i've got decent broadband (currently a T-1 but soon to go with an upload-limited cable modem) |
17:13.00 | JMcA | I've got 256kbps upload, and use ulaw |
17:13.23 | tronix | hmmm. think mine would be 40kbps upload or round there. guess I should look at a |
17:13.30 | tronix | business cable modem plan to get 256. :) |
17:14.06 | JMcA | 40kbps? that's modem speed |
17:14.12 | tronix | heh aye |
17:14.12 | JMcA | ballpark |
17:14.16 | JMcA | that bites |
17:14.18 | tronix | not much competition in town |
17:14.27 | JMcA | good lord |
17:14.32 | tronix | only two places. dsl by local ILEC telco or roadrunner cable modem |
17:14.36 | wizard545 | tronix, you should host your asterisk box at our datacenter |
17:14.51 | tronix | and the ILEC is fibbing when they say I don't qualify for DSL... I live down the road from the CO |
17:14.58 | tronix | (and already have existing T-1..geez..) |
17:15.11 | tronix | wizard545: hmmm. where is it? |
17:15.18 | wizard545 | USA ohio |
17:15.21 | tronix | not bad |
17:15.22 | wizard545 | 100meg connection |
17:15.44 | tronix | which part of ohio? akron/cleveland or closer to cincy? columbus? |
17:15.47 | JMcA | tronix: just 'cause you're close to the CO doesn't mean you qualify |
17:15.53 | wizard545 | columbus |
17:15.57 | tronix | jmca: that's true |
17:16.06 | wizard545 | downtown columbus |
17:16.20 | tronix | I can't imagine why I wouldn't qualify, 700 ft away, tho |
17:16.27 | tronix | or given that I have existing T-1 service. |
17:17.01 | tronix | the irony is that I used to work for this telco :) and knew the switch techs and could go into the switch room if I needed something. not anymore, tho. |
17:17.07 | [TK]D-Fender | tronix : ULAY is better than pretty much everything except wide-band. GSm is MUCH worse, and 729 is a bit better |
17:17.20 | tronix | wizard545: thanks -- got an url for colo'ing info? |
17:17.55 | tronix | thanks! |
17:18.09 | tronix | [TK]D-Fen: interesting. *takes notes* |
17:18.13 | wizard545 | no problem |
17:18.40 | tronix | jmca: what annoys me is that only a few months ago, they were telling us we qualified. I wonder if they oversubbed or something. |
17:19.45 | tronix | oh well, not a huge deal. roadrunner's ok, and they do have that business plan. |
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17:27.00 | wizard545 | nufone seems scaru |
17:27.02 | wizard545 | scary |
17:27.03 | wizard545 | haha |
17:27.06 | wizard545 | anyone use them? |
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17:28.57 | tronix | i do but haven't set it up yet |
17:29.04 | tronix | (just signed up) |
17:29.14 | tronix | an existing * user I know in Canada highly recommended them |
17:29.22 | tronix | he said no-frills but techy people |
17:29.50 | tronix | they were pretty quick with signups and DID provisioning (on the spot) |
17:29.58 | tronix | and few mins turnaround on support queries |
17:30.23 | tronix | they also provide sample * configs to plug in, specific to your provisioned setup |
17:30.27 | RoyK | wizard545: jerjer is scary... |
17:31.03 | tronix | rate's not bad. 2 cents/min for U.S. domestic calls; a little more to Canada and something like 10-12 cents/min to places like Russia? (vague recollection) |
17:31.16 | [TK]D-Fender | tronix : Where are you located? |
17:31.20 | tronix | western NY |
17:31.32 | Math` | tronix: use voipjet for termination |
17:31.44 | tronix | hmmm. i'll have to check that out, thanks. |
17:33.14 | wizard545 | tronix 2/c a min was 800 inbound right? |
17:33.37 | tronix | believe so |
17:33.54 | wizard545 | not bad for 800 |
17:34.59 | JMcA | so...not that I have any need to do this yet, but can you do SetVar( ${_foo} = ${foo} ) and have it do what's expected? |
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17:36.24 | X-Files | Need help configure asterisk, to worked Messages and Status Users in eyebeam 1.11.3010 |
17:36.36 | outtolunc | locate README.variables |
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17:40.46 | JMcA | actually...I guess my question really is for SetVar( _foo = ${foo} ) and seeing the description, in README.variables, I'm thinking it does work, but still not sure |
17:41.26 | outtolunc | well depending on the age of your asterisk, you should be asking about SET, not SETVAR |
17:41.46 | JMcA | I've got one 1.0.9 and one 1.2.1 |
17:41.53 | outtolunc | and it tells you about inherited vars |
17:42.16 | drumkilla | JMcA: That's probably not what you want |
17:42.33 | drumkilla | That sets the variable " _foo " to the value of " ${foo} " |
17:42.37 | drumkilla | including the spaces |
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17:42.53 | JMcA | ok...good point...i was including the spaces for readability |
17:43.28 | outtolunc | also, why just _ and not __ |
17:43.33 | JMcA | so, SetVar(_foo=${foo}) |
17:44.09 | JMcA | outtolunc: what I'm getting at is, can I take a variable that is not set to be inherited, and make it inheritable without jumping through the extra hoop of another temporary variable? |
17:44.44 | JMcA | I'm thinking for a potential situation where the variable has already been set at some previous point, but now you want to make it inheritable |
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17:45.08 | JMcA | and not __ because I believe in keeping namespace clean and tidy and not exporting crap all over the place if its not needed |
17:45.11 | outtolunc | right, and _ and __ is how deep it inherits |
17:45.43 | outtolunc | k |
17:46.20 | JMcA | right, my point though is that I may set a variable for the dialplan...but in one particular spot, I need it to inherit, but don't want to set it as inheritable all over the place |
17:46.31 | outtolunc | Set(__FOO=bar) ; Sets an inherited version of "FOO" variable |
17:46.31 | outtolunc | Set(FOO=bar) ; Removes the inherited version and sets a local |
17:46.32 | outtolunc | <PROTECTED> |
17:46.53 | outtolunc | says it all which was why i suggested reading README.variables in the first place |
17:46.53 | JMcA | ok...so it sounds like that would work |
17:47.15 | JMcA | yeah...of course, I'm asking for the reverse of that, but that gives me some confidence that it will work |
17:47.20 | outtolunc | nods |
17:47.31 | JMcA | and I'm currently reading through that file |
17:47.38 | outtolunc | it's the first one, just level 1 inherit |
17:47.40 | JMcA | just got to that spot, actually |
17:48.43 | JMcA | outtolunc: still not exactly what I was asking about, but, again, gives me confidence that it will work |
17:48.58 | outtolunc | bar can be anything |
17:49.05 | JMcA | and besides...this is all pretty hypothetical...don't hvae any need for anything like this at this point, was just a question out of curiousity |
17:49.08 | outtolunc | "bar" ${bar} |
17:49.10 | outtolunc | whatever |
17:49.27 | JMcA | yeah...since it gets substituted...that makes sense |
17:50.07 | outtolunc | imagine this Set(${bar}=_{bar}) |
17:50.11 | JMcA | so did SetVar become Set in the transition from 1.0 to 1.2? or is it more complicated than that? |
17:50.13 | outtolunc | er vice versa |
17:50.31 | outtolunc | nods somewhere in there |
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17:54.21 | oceanlan | so whats up in the voip world today? |
17:54.24 | oceanlan | any news? |
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17:55.55 | JMcA | uhm...we determined earlier...may have been late last night after I got in...that NAT is evil |
17:56.08 | JMcA | slow news day |
17:57.08 | [TK]D-Fender | JMcA : Yes. Setvar is depricated. |
17:57.28 | [TK]D-Fender | JMcA : NAT is only semi-evil. |
17:58.04 | JMcA | I firmly believe that NAT is fully evil...but I tend to be pretty opinionated on that subject |
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18:00.47 | Jammy | . |
18:02.00 | znoG | skype released under OSS eh? |
18:02.03 | oceanlan | HAA! JMcA: I agree..nat is evil! |
18:02.07 | znoG | err LGPL |
18:02.16 | oceanlan | i hope next gen firewalls have more support for voip traffic |
18:04.36 | JMcA | skype lgpl? I missed that |
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18:06.47 | JMcA | and I'm still missing it |
18:07.35 | outtolunc | http://share.skype.com/directory/open_source_development_library/view/ |
18:07.41 | znoG | ++skype library only |
18:07.44 | znoG | not skype itself |
18:07.46 | tronix | ahh. |
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18:08.10 | drumkilla | and i believe it only supports a single channel |
18:08.13 | znoG | hrm, so does dundi rely on the fact that you list all the extensions in each server under a context? |
18:08.14 | drumkilla | ... not very useful |
18:08.24 | JMcA | ah...ok |
18:08.30 | znoG | for example, I don't list any of my extensions in the dialplan, I have an AGI script to dial the right user |
18:11.41 | QbY | anyone have any experience with the linksys pap2--speciifically a phone not ringing when connected to it (caller id shows call coming in, and you can answer it, but it doesn't ring) |
18:12.25 | brookshire | anyone have an old 1 u server they want to sell? can be any speed... |
18:13.06 | h3x | i always wanted to know this |
18:13.44 | h3x | QbY: Why use a negative charge (-48 volts) for Ring instead of a positive |
18:13.45 | h3x | <PROTECTED> |
18:13.57 | h3x | The reason for doing this is galvanic corrosion protection. A conductor |
18:13.57 | h3x | <PROTECTED> |
18:13.57 | h3x | <PROTECTED> |
18:13.58 | h3x | <PROTECTED> |
18:16.36 | JMcA | h3x: of course, they'll be attracted on the other end of the line |
18:16.49 | eKo1 | the next question would be: Why do we care about Cl ions? |
18:17.07 | h3x | no it wont coz its the equivalent of earth ground |
18:17.09 | JMcA | eKo1: you don't want the connector where you plug your phone in corroding |
18:17.26 | [TK]D-Fender | brookshire : Just go to tigerdirect.com |
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18:17.40 | JMcA | h3x: huh? |
18:17.49 | h3x | tip is like "ground" |
18:17.50 | QbY | h3x.. i am confused as hell.. what do charges have to do with my phone ringing? |
18:17.53 | eKo1 | the plug on my phone is more likely to break than to corrode |
18:17.56 | h3x | ring is a negative voltage reference to tip |
18:18.01 | brookshire | [tk]: i need old server.. do they sell used ones? |
18:18.04 | h3x | buried cable |
18:18.08 | h3x | outdoor termination |
18:18.09 | h3x | etc |
18:18.24 | JMcA | h3x: oh, ok... |
18:18.29 | JMcA | I was thinking of a different issue |
18:18.36 | h3x | electricity flows from - to + |
18:18.42 | h3x | its the opposite of what most people think |
18:18.46 | oceanlan | brookshire: i am sure you looked on ebay? |
18:18.53 | QbY | so.. h3x.. are you suggesting there is a setting for - or + in the pap2? |
18:19.01 | JMcA | t1's do alternating voltages for marks to avoid oxidation from dissimilar conductors and connection points |
18:19.10 | oceanlan | h3x: you are correct.. - to + is accurate |
18:19.11 | JMcA | I was thinking along those lines |
18:19.28 | h3x | yeah but a POTS line is DC current except when its ringing |
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18:19.33 | JMcA | h3x: right |
18:19.51 | [TK]D-Fender | brookshire : I'm sure there are a few, and a bunch of low end. Do you jsut need the rack format? |
18:19.51 | JMcA | like I said...I was thinking about t1 type stuff...I was in the wrong context |
18:19.54 | oceanlan | its 9 volts DC when it rings a 5 volts standing isnt it? |
18:20.13 | JMcA | ringing voltage is a minimum of 40 volts |
18:20.41 | brookshire | yeah.. need a cheap server to put in a rack |
18:20.44 | oceanlan | wow, i always thought it was 9volts...i have an electronics bakground, not telecom =( |
18:20.47 | brookshire | but we only have 1u |
18:21.17 | JMcA | yeah...typically up in the 50s...amperage is pretty low, though...still stings if you get hit by it |
18:21.21 | JMcA | (which I have) |
18:21.27 | oceanlan | same here! |
18:21.36 | oceanlan | it felt like 9 volts to me!! hehe |
18:21.58 | JMcA | I got nailed across a finger and had trouble moving it for an hour or so |
18:22.18 | oceanlan | its amazing how often it can happed in a multi-tennant building with 17 idf's when you are tracing down new connections!! |
18:22.51 | oceanlan | i got my elbo once, it felt like someone punched me! |
18:23.16 | tronix | brookshir: there's often sun netra t1 ac105 going for couple hundred bucks off ebay. cheap and has good remote management, if you don't mind fact it's SPARC-based :-) |
18:23.19 | JMcA | I used to work for an ISP in the old school analog phone line days...you could pretty much count on being hit if you were touching the exposed conductors at an ISP |
18:23.50 | oceanlan | yea...at least its not 110v ac ]P |
18:23.58 | oceanlan | :p ** |
18:24.18 | tronix | heh good ole days. one employer (an early ISP) had two banks of modems... about 150 usr courier v.everything and 20 some cheap no-name modem. |
18:24.26 | tronix | guess which ones never failed? and which ones always failed? |
18:24.47 | [TK]D-Fender | brookshire : $400 - http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1260771&CatId=0 |
18:24.57 | oceanlan | the cheap no-names!! |
18:25.14 | tronix | indeed. the CFO thought he was being smart by cutting costs... |
18:25.14 | JMcA | I'm gonna guess you're gonna say the courier's failed a lot...but my experience was exactly the opposite of that.... |
18:25.17 | tronix | nope, nosiree. |
18:25.19 | tronix | hahaha |
18:25.31 | tronix | nah, the couriers were bulletproof. |
18:25.34 | JMcA | ok |
18:25.36 | brookshire | cool.. thanks :D |
18:25.38 | JMcA | that was my experience |
18:25.49 | tronix | i think we had only one incident of failure with the courier during the 2 years I was there |
18:25.51 | JMcA | we had the USR Total Control racks |
18:25.53 | oceanlan | it was a 50/50 chance |
18:25.54 | tronix | the no-names failed almost daily. |
18:26.00 | tronix | (all of them.) |
18:26.14 | JMcA | that ISP is still running modems that are 8 or 9 years old |
18:26.17 | tronix | think lot of it was due to quality of firmware. |
18:26.46 | oceanlan | the modems you are talking about are at the ISP side? |
18:26.59 | tronix | the couriers were very aggressive in holding on to even marginal calls |
18:27.03 | JMcA | the management functionality on those Total Control racks was absolutely amazing....the connection statistics you could pull from those modems were seriously deep |
18:27.34 | tronix | and to this day, I still pat my own personally-bought courier at home. :-) |
18:28.40 | JMcA | they had down and dirty details down to the analog signal details that the modem was using...carrier signals, gain, SNR, you name it |
18:29.11 | oceanlan | wow, sounds like our wireless gear |
18:29.14 | JMcA | trellis-coding in use, what signal constellation was being used, even a frequency response graph of the line |
18:29.18 | tronix | oh yeah. the total control stuff was great. |
18:29.22 | tronix | we had them 10 years ago |
18:29.24 | tronix | solid. |
18:29.36 | tronix | later migrated to Ciscos.. AS5200 then AS5300s |
18:29.39 | JMcA | yup, they steadily declined in quality...but still good |
18:29.50 | oceanlan | modems are really similar to wireless radios...do you guys agree? i dont know too much about modems but that is what I have heard |
18:30.18 | JMcA | oceanlan: there are a lot of very similar technologies, concepts, and algorithms in use, yes |
18:30.57 | tronix | our primary modem administrator was in hog heaven with the TCH stats :-) |
18:31.04 | oceanlan | JMcA: thought so, just wanted to dispel any myths that i might have heard |
18:31.11 | JMcA | when it comes down to it, you're encoding digital data onto an analog medium...whether that's physical copper wire, or air, the concepts are the same |
18:31.25 | tronix | it was extra cool because at the time, we were part of an ILEC (telco) so we'd use them to get the switch people to reconfig paths... |
18:31.59 | JMcA | tronix: it was great...that was my role at the ISP...combine that with the ability to read hex dumps of PPP connections almost like reading a book and I *really* freaked some of our first level tech support folks out sometimes :) |
18:32.07 | tronix | hahaha |
18:32.25 | oceanlan | brb AFK |
18:32.29 | tronix | alaska was a tough place for that. |
18:32.42 | JMcA | and win95's inability to dump as anything other than hex....had to do it the hard way |
18:33.25 | tronix | hahaha *wince* |
18:33.39 | tronix | sometimes I'm suddenly reminded that the rosy-colored 'good old days' sometimes weren't *such* so much fun. ;) |
18:34.52 | wizard545 | guys, is there anyway to stop the inbound/outbound fees when doing a call forward? |
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18:35.08 | wizard545 | just making it one way, so i don |
18:35.17 | wizard545 | don't pay incoming 2/c and outgoing 2/c |
18:37.38 | oceanlan | is it your telco charging you the c/f fees? |
18:38.41 | wizard545 | well, i'm taking the call for 2/c incoming and forwarding that to another number |
18:39.02 | wizard545 | can i cut one side out of it? so i only get charged the one fee, without dropping the call |
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18:39.46 | oceanlan | i assume you can't just forward from point A to point C without stopping at B ? right? there is a reason you are hopping through a middle location? |
18:40.00 | wizard545 | i am the middle location |
18:40.18 | oceanlan | right, why cant the A go strait to C? |
18:40.23 | wizard545 | exactly |
18:40.40 | wizard545 | well, it calls my asterisk box for verification |
18:41.07 | oceanlan | is this for calling cards? |
18:41.08 | tainted- | there's no way around it |
18:41.20 | wizard545 | damn. |
18:42.13 | wizard545 | thanks anyway |
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18:44.34 | X-Files | Ouch ... error while writing audio data: : Broken pipe |
18:44.34 | X-Files | Killed |
18:44.40 | X-Files | ppls what this ? |
18:44.58 | oceanlan | is that for vmail or a custom audio file? |
18:45.22 | X-Files | custom |
18:46.11 | oceanlan | what format are you trying to record with? |
18:46.46 | X-Files | i not use vmail |
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18:47.44 | ke4qqq | hey guys, I am working on an asterisk integration with a very legacy pbx....one that doesn't support dtmf reception. Long story short, I have tie lines set up, and dial in with DP, however, it's routing calls successfully only about 50% of the time. The other 50% of the time the call is routed incorrectly (usually a lower numbered extension, ie, if I dial 235, I often get 232) Any ideas on... |
18:47.46 | ke4qqq | ...improving *'s sending of pulses? |
18:47.50 | oceanlan | yea, but is it trying to record in .wav or .mp3? |
18:47.58 | ke4qqq | X-Files: Are you getting that error when you are trying to start asterisk? |
18:47.59 | [TK]D-Fender | Linksys SPA-942 is up on www.voipsupply.com . 2 x RJ45 w/ PoE, but (10mbit ONLY! UGH!) <- |
18:48.11 | Qwell | still only 10mbit? lame! |
18:48.14 | X-Files | ke4qqq: no |
18:48.20 | tuxinator_linux | [TK]D-Fender: need more than 10mbit? |
18:48.23 | Qwell | [TK]D-Fender: So, what did they improve? |
18:48.32 | Qwell | tuxinator_linux: yes, 10mbit on a switch port is stupid, at best |
18:48.49 | Qwell | just look at the new cisco 79x1g-ge phones |
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18:48.51 | Qwell | They're gbit |
18:48.57 | Qwell | very very useful |
18:49.05 | kink0 | hi, anyone know any channel here about movile GSM ? |
18:49.09 | [TK]D-Fender | tuxinator_linux : YES. if you're going to plug a computer behind it, which is the entire point for 2 eth ports on a phone... |
18:49.23 | tuxinator_linux | [TK]D-Fender: true, good point |
18:49.26 | Qwell | [TK]D-Fender: would have cost them an extra...what...$.10 per port? |
18:49.56 | [TK]D-Fender | Qwell : This mean that I could only suggest Linksys for HOME use now. and that means even lower model than the 941. |
18:50.01 | JMcA | yeah, gig to the desktop isn't exactly a common thing, yet, but phones need to support it because it definitely is coming |
18:50.21 | X-Files | Core was generated by `./asterisk -c'. |
18:50.22 | X-Files | Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. |
18:50.22 | X-Files | warning: current_sos: Can't read pathname for load map: Input/output error |
18:50.23 | X-Files | hmm |
18:50.25 | X-Files | interesing |
18:50.44 | [TK]D-Fender | X-Files : Oh yeah... eyebeam presence has been known to crash certain versions of * <- |
18:51.05 | [TK]D-Fender | ok, bbiab |
18:51.10 | X-Files | 8-E~ |
18:51.25 | X-Files | mazafaka :( |
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18:55.43 | gnosys | simple question: I run asterisk -r to reconnect to a console of a running asterisk process. How do I disconnect from that console without killing the running asterisk process? |
19:02.12 | [TK]D-Fender | gnosys : "exit" |
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19:04.52 | gnosys | <sheepishly> thanks, [TK]D-Fender. I don't see 'exit' in the list of commands that one gets by using "help" at the CLI console. Makes sense, but it just never occurred to me. Thanks. |
19:05.55 | rend | hello. i have been using broadvoice and the service just keeps getting worse. |
19:06.06 | tuxinator_linux | rend, I have them also |
19:06.09 | rend | i was wondering what is a good service to use with asterisk? |
19:06.30 | tuxinator_linux | rend, what problems are you having? |
19:06.57 | rend | tuxinator_linux: dropped calls, sometimes i can hear the other party but they cant hear me. or the other way around |
19:07.19 | tuxinator_linux | rend: I have the same problems |
19:07.34 | tuxinator_linux | rend: happens infrequently, but it happens |
19:07.47 | rend | tuxinator_linux : figures. they try to blame my connection and ask for a tcpdump |
19:08.02 | rend | to me it happens all too often and has been getting worse |
19:08.03 | troyb1 | !seen _Vile |
19:08.06 | tuxinator_linux | rend: that is more than they do for me |
19:08.13 | troyb1 | no chance :| |
19:08.15 | rend | lets say 75% of the time they work |
19:08.24 | tuxinator_linux | rend: they make same changes everytime time I call in, and it gets better each time |
19:08.34 | rend | but if im gonna drop my landline i need at least 95% |
19:09.02 | tuxinator_linux | rend: I don't have a landline, just the broadvoice |
19:09.15 | rend | tuxinator_linux : i have even been using their system directly where i dont even use the net and their stuff is still crap |
19:09.37 | rend | its been almost 6 months and its worse. im gone |
19:10.00 | rend | im just looking for recommendations for another service |
19:10.16 | tuxinator_linux | rend: you and me both |
19:10.25 | gnosys | From reading the docs, it's clear that there are many parameters to adjust and tweaks to make in trying to eliminate echos. Can someone suggest an order of priority for these? With zap fxo ports, would fxotune be a reasonable first thing to try? Or should I start by trying to fiddle with the number of taps in echocancel (32-256). It's at the default now (yes). |
19:10.47 | rend | tuxinator_linux : ahh glad you are not content on theri bad service |
19:11.28 | tuxinator_linux | rend: nope, rather dissapointed, price is nice, but service is too bad, will switch as soon as I find a better option |
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19:14.56 | oceanlan | Has anyone here ever ready the AsteriskTFOT? the book about asterisk? |
19:14.58 | gnosys | rend and tuxinator_linux: I have the same problems with VoicePulse. In one case, I had 4 dropped calls in one day. If anyone knows a service that has a very low dropped-call rate, I'd really like to know about it. |
19:15.30 | tuxinator_linux | oceanlan: yep, I read it |
19:15.45 | gnosys | me 2 |
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19:15.54 | VJ | Hello |
19:16.09 | troyb1 | greetings. |
19:16.09 | VJ | i need to install ztdummy on my slackware system |
19:16.29 | VJ | can you get me an idea about it |
19:16.30 | oceanlan | i am on page 10...its very interest |
19:16.32 | oceanlan | ing* |
19:17.03 | troyb1 | does #0,0 still work here :P |
19:17.48 | oceanlan | I am gonna keep reading...dude is right though..."Not many people get excited about telephones...but those who do get REALLY excited" |
19:17.48 | troyb1 | apparently not |
19:18.18 | tuxinator_linux | troyb1: #0,0 ? |
19:18.38 | kink0 | about genext, I use it with an user registered as friend, and I set a number like 6969 to this user, but I am unable to dial 6969, and claims there not any extension with this number. |
19:18.54 | kink0 | is that normal ? or I would be able to dial 6969 from console ? |
19:19.11 | troyb1 | tuxinator_linux you used to be able to put commas in a channel name for exiting purposes |
19:19.18 | tuxinator_linux | oceanlan: everyone should read the book and the wiki before they even ask a question on here |
19:19.30 | rend | hmm. someone told me that they never have dropped calls or delay with vonage |
19:19.51 | RoyK | erm |
19:20.15 | tuxinator_linux | vonage doesn't play with *, if I remember correctly |
19:20.23 | RoyK | how can I take the following, *81*number# and strip both *81* and #? |
19:20.41 | RoyK | StripAcid |
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19:20.59 | Qwell | ~striplastdigit |
19:21.07 | jbot | from memory, striplastdigit is ${EXTEN:0:$[${LEN(${EXTEN})} - 1]} , will remove the last digit from EXTEN, making 5551212 become 555121. Change the "1" to remove more digits. |
19:22.53 | rend | anyone here used axvoice? |
19:23.20 | VJ | Can anyone tell me how to install ztdummy on the slackware system with kernel 2.6.15 |
19:24.05 | [TK]D-Fender | VJ : you shouldn't need ztdummy with 2.6 |
19:24.33 | [TK]D-Fender | VJ : But it should be installed normally if you compile zaptel before asterisk |
19:25.36 | tronix | oceanlan: i've read asteriskTFOT. and author's right. :) i was reading a website last night of someone |
19:25.46 | VJ | i have compiled zaptel before asterisk |
19:25.48 | tronix | whom wired up his own strowger switch at home and integrated |
19:25.49 | tronix | with asterisk |
19:26.05 | tronix | he also had photos of various phones -- WE 500, etc |
19:26.16 | VJ | but now when i do modprobe ztdummy, it gives me an error message |
19:26.28 | tronix | (which I remember seeing at my grandparents' in my extreme youth -- the WE500 phone, that is.) |
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19:28.10 | sivana | what's the best tool to convert a wav to mp3? |
19:28.21 | wizard545 | lame |
19:28.26 | tronix | ocealan: if you want to see what I mean, just check out: http://home1.gte.net/dalderdi/phones/sxs1.htm |
19:29.26 | VJ | http://pastebin.com/516458 |
19:29.36 | VJ | this is the error message i am getting http://pastebin.com/516458 |
19:30.19 | VJ | Hello [TK]D-Fender |
19:30.41 | VJ | <PROTECTED> |
19:30.56 | VJ | or Can anyone tell me how to install ztdummy on the slackware system with kernel 2.6.15 |
19:34.42 | QbY | is there supposed to be hold music on a parked call? |
19:35.07 | Math` | yeah |
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19:35.15 | moistbat | monkey rape |
19:35.44 | tuxinator_linux | tronix: that stuff is older than me |
19:35.54 | tuxinator_linux | lunch time |
19:36.11 | *** part/#asterisk moistbat (n=no@host86-130-139-1.range86-130.btcentralplus.com) |
19:36.30 | QbY | how do you place a call on hold from an analog phone with a ata? |
19:36.36 | QbY | because i'm not getting music |
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19:37.29 | Math` | usually you press flash |
19:37.41 | kink0 | would be dialable from console a registered user as friend with a genext ? |
19:38.27 | VJ | <PROTECTED> |
19:39.40 | rend | whats an open source linux sip phone? |
19:39.54 | rend | software phone.. |
19:40.21 | kink0 | rend:linphone may be |
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19:43.49 | tronix | tuxinator: hahaha |
19:44.30 | tronix | rend: hmm... twinkle |
19:44.47 | tronix | seems decent. |
19:46.22 | VJ | <PROTECTED> |
19:46.55 | Qwell | VJ: with 2.6, ztdummy is compiled by default |
19:47.12 | Math` | is it? I always de-comment it into the Makefile |
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19:51.08 | kink0 | I set a line like genext 6969 to an user, when is registered, I can not do a console dial 6969, is that normal ? |
19:51.27 | Math` | genext? |
19:51.44 | kink0 | Math`, yes... let me check for synthax |
19:52.08 | kink0 | regexten=6969 |
19:52.14 | kink0 | sorry... regexten |
19:52.32 | kink0 | I put a regexten to a registered type=friend |
19:52.49 | kink0 | but if i do a console dial 6969, I got that extension does not exist |
19:52.51 | X-Files | ppls, what this it ? http://pastebin.ca/37870 |
19:53.01 | rob0 | rend: kiax (IAX), kphone is SIP, there are many others, see freshmeat. |
19:53.11 | kink0 | when I was supposing that exten would be assigned to the registered user. |
19:54.15 | Math` | kink0: in which context did you regexten it in? |
19:54.29 | kink0 | Math`, local |
19:55.00 | kink0 | context=local , but No such extension '6969' in context 'local' |
19:55.07 | VJ | but when i am doing zydummy, it gives me an error |
19:55.26 | VJ | <PROTECTED> |
19:55.36 | VJ | Hello Qwell |
19:55.54 | VJ | <Qwell> i am getting this error message " http://pastebin.com/516458" |
19:56.27 | Qwell | means you broke it |
19:56.59 | VJ | how? |
19:57.22 | Qwell | dunno |
19:57.36 | wizard545 | anyone use voipbuster? |
19:57.48 | VJ | whats the solution? |
19:57.50 | VJ | any idea? |
19:58.14 | rob0 | VJ: you *did* what it suggested, "see dmesg"? |
19:58.17 | kink0 | is normal that does not found that extension ? or must asign the extension to the registered user ? |
19:58.27 | troyb1 | >pathping www.uranus.com |
19:58.59 | VJ | yes |
19:59.26 | Math` | kink0: TRY dial 6969@local |
19:59.49 | pifiu | hey qwell wasup |
19:59.59 | VJ | http://pastebin.com/516493 |
20:00.15 | kink0 | dial 6969@local |
20:00.15 | VJ | here is the status of dmesg "http://pastebin.com/516493" |
20:00.15 | kink0 | No such extension '6969' in context 'local' |
20:00.18 | kink0 | the same |
20:01.21 | Qwell | VJ: You need the crc_ccitt stuff in the kernel |
20:01.26 | rob0 | missing crc_ccitt I would say. Try "zgrep CCITT /proc/config.gz" |
20:03.05 | VJ | should i paste this command on my system |
20:03.25 | VJ | it says gzip: /proc/config.gz: No such file or directory |
20:03.32 | pifiu | qwell did i tell you i got iax2 to work? =P |
20:03.37 | Qwell | no |
20:03.41 | Qwell | but I can guess how |
20:03.42 | pifiu | well i did |
20:03.43 | pifiu | lol |
20:03.46 | kink0 | Math`, but supposely is when I dial the extension I set as regnexten in sip.conf for an user, I would be able to dial that extension, right ? or is another the purpose of regexten ? |
20:03.49 | pifiu | oh yeah? |
20:04.08 | rend | "The cellphone industry has taught us that consumers really like nifty handsets that are fun and feature-rich," |
20:04.18 | rend | thats bullshit since i have a very basic cellphone |
20:04.33 | troyb1 | blame me i have a treo |
20:04.34 | rob0 | VJ: try your kernel .config file |
20:04.54 | tuxinator_linux | rend: mine is 5 years old, good ol nokia |
20:04.56 | rend | but i do know idiots with blackberrys who cant figure out a computer |
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20:05.07 | rend | tuxinator_linux : i just got a new samsung but it was $30 |
20:05.50 | Mike | hey guys, im having alot of trouble with rawplayer, seems very unstable anyone has a patch or something ? |
20:05.50 | kink0 | rend... about blackberrys and asterisk... and mobiles... do you know any movile terminal that supports at+fclass=8 ? |
20:05.52 | VJ | rob0: where would this file be located |
20:07.07 | rend | kink0: no |
20:08.08 | rob0 | VJ, how did you manage to get a 2.6.15 kernel without knowing where you configured and compiled it? |
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20:09.00 | rend | i just singned up for a new axvoice account but it looks like they dont activate accounts on the weekend :( |
20:10.37 | asterboy | bunch of dope smokers |
20:11.02 | asterboy | tell them to get back to work. |
20:11.17 | rob0 | Get back to work, dope smokers. |
20:11.21 | rob0 | done |
20:11.22 | asterboy | lol |
20:11.36 | asterboy | anyone here have the Polycom IP 300? |
20:11.54 | asterboy | ~polycom |
20:12.02 | jbot | extra, extra, read all about it, polycom is the manufacturer of one of the best IP phones in the market. http://polycom.com - Note: Here is where you can get some downloads: http://www.polycom.com/resource_center/0,,pw-6812-12612,00.html |
20:12.02 | Math` | I installed 301s |
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20:14.00 | [TK]D-Fender | asterboy : what about the IP 300? |
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20:14.36 | ThomasJ | Hello, can anyone help me with a voicemail isssue? |
20:14.38 | asterboy | Just setting one up for the first time...do I use the same SIP and bootROM from the IP 500? |
20:14.53 | X-Files | ppls, why i see warning http://pastebin.ca/37870 ? Please answer. |
20:15.00 | *** part/#asterisk rend (n=rend@unaffiliated/rend/x-000000001) |
20:15.10 | [TK]D-Fender | asterboy : Depends which version. What does it have now? |
20:15.25 | asterboy | checking... |
20:15.46 | asterboy | 2.5.0 for bootROM |
20:16.26 | asterboy | not sure for sip, does not show in ABOUT menu |
20:16.44 | ThomasJ | Please, i need help! :) |
20:17.28 | [TK]D-Fender | asterboy : Its there... |
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20:17.50 | Corydon76-home | asterboy: yes, you use the same ROMs for the 300 as for the 500 |
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20:18.05 | asterboy | ok thx |
20:18.05 | RoyK | ThomasJ: if you DO ask WHAT you wonder about then MAYBE someone MIGHTT help you. whining about that you need generic help is useless |
20:18.09 | asterboy | trying... |
20:18.11 | Corydon76-home | but not nearly the same as the 301 and 501 |
20:18.20 | [TK]D-Fender | asterboy : I'd suggest 2.6.(1/2) BR, and 1.5.(2/3) SIP. and yes it uses the same firmware, just different parts |
20:18.34 | Corydon76-home | The latest ROMs from Polycom need more memory than the 300 and 500 have |
20:18.34 | asterboy | ya, I like the 2.5 |
20:18.36 | [TK]D-Fender | (internally) |
20:18.37 | asterboy | err...2.6 |
20:18.48 | [TK]D-Fender | 2.6 is safe. |
20:19.00 | [TK]D-Fender | its 3.x BR that you should avoid |
20:19.04 | asterboy | Anyone get these phones to work with FWD yet? |
20:19.13 | [TK]D-Fender | SIP is safe all around |
20:19.16 | asterboy | ya the 3.x is a one way street. |
20:19.33 | [TK]D-Fender | asterboy : SIP is SIP. its all the same... |
20:19.45 | asterboy | ok, good to hear |
20:19.55 | [TK]D-Fender | asterboy : besides aren't you going to use it through *? |
20:20.15 | Qwell | kram: morning |
20:20.20 | kram | moring qwell |
20:20.30 | Corydon76-home | G'dafternoon |
20:21.38 | [TK]D-Fender | I brought an IP 600 home from work, but the wrong power adapter :( |
20:21.45 | asterboy | Fender, eventually, right now I'm connecting direct to VOIP terminator. |
20:21.56 | Mike | anyone knows how to make rawplayer stable enough for a production enviorment? |
20:22.16 | angler_ | I think I've had it with maxtor hd's. I've had to many fail now |
20:22.36 | asterboy | I still can't get the Polycom to register with FWD |
20:22.44 | asterboy | not sure what I'm missing in config |
20:22.45 | Qwell | angler_: hopefully seagate won't make the maxtor line worse |
20:22.55 | Qwell | or, introduce the maxtor issues in the seagates, heh |
20:23.09 | Math` | asterboy: how come its not registering? |
20:23.19 | Math` | Qwell: hopefully |
20:23.23 | angler_ | Qwell, what do you mean |
20:23.32 | Qwell | angler_: seagate owns maxtor now |
20:23.40 | Math` | maxtors have the reputation of... how can I say... failing easily |
20:23.42 | angler_ | Qwell, oh! |
20:23.55 | angler_ | Qwell, how good are seagates? |
20:24.02 | Qwell | very, usually |
20:24.14 | Math` | 5 years warranty on OEM |
20:24.35 | angler_ | Qwell, i've only had maxtor and WD, my one WD failed also |
20:24.45 | angler_ | stuck with maxtor and just had my 4th die |
20:24.49 | Math` | I had both, both failed |
20:24.55 | Math` | my seagate is still alive tho :) |
20:25.17 | Qwell | WD is crap, heh |
20:25.22 | angler_ | i'm glad this last time I made a raid, still got my data on one of the maxtors |
20:25.47 | Err | it's been my experience that batches of drives die, but not necessarily brands in general - and it's also been my experience that if a drive lasts 3mo, it will last 200 years :-) |
20:25.56 | rob0 | <== planning to buy Seagates from now on |
20:26.10 | angler_ | iv'e had these maxtors for about 3 years now |
20:26.16 | Qwell | imo, the maxtor line can only get better now |
20:26.24 | Qwell | especially if seagate still offers the uber-warranty |
20:26.37 | Qwell | did anybody notice that maxtor dropped the 3 year warranty a year ago or so? |
20:26.54 | Err | that's doubtful - short warranties are one of the ways that hard drive companies can sell their cheap drives cheaper |
20:26.57 | angler_ | well im out of here... my $100 compusa giftcard is coming soon so i'll use it... they better carry seagate too |
20:27.14 | Qwell | angler_: compusa...eh...expensive |
20:27.23 | Err | Maxtor and WD have both started making *lines* of their drives that are 1yr warranted, instead of the traditional 3yr - and the drives are $20-30 cheaper |
20:27.29 | angler_ | Qwell, yes i saw they dropped it. I remember when they said they raised it to 3 and i was excited... then they dropped it |
20:27.52 | angler_ | well im off... |
20:27.53 | Qwell | speaking of dropped...heh |
20:28.06 | Qwell | yell at the dumb bitch at the checkout...she WILL be rough with the drive |
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20:29.16 | asterboy | I have seen more maxtor failures then any other drive...I stay far away from them now. |
20:29.24 | Katty | mew. |
20:29.41 | Qwell | asterboy: even IBM deathstars? |
20:30.03 | asterboy | Math', not sure why my polycom won't register with FWD...I'd like to see someone else with a working config. |
20:30.25 | asterboy | IBM deathstars...hmmm..not heard of em. |
20:30.26 | [TK]D-Fender | asterboy : is your phone behind NAT? |
20:30.35 | asterboy | yes |
20:30.37 | Qwell | asterboy: deskstar |
20:30.39 | asterboy | symetrically |
20:30.48 | Qwell | had like a 50% failure rate or something :p |
20:30.49 | [TK]D-Fender | asterboy : I believe there is a setting in sip.cfg you'll need for that then. |
20:31.01 | [TK]D-Fender | ok, gtg, later all |
20:31.15 | asterboy | do tell! |
20:35.14 | tuxinator_linux | all but one of my deathstar drives lasted 3 or more years |
20:36.03 | tuxinator_linux | one of my deathstars died last week, after 5 years of abuse |
20:37.22 | tuxinator_linux | the problem with that batch of deskstars, from what I hear, is that the drives were placed to close together, and the heads would get stuck |
20:37.44 | Math` | thats bad |
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20:44.51 | QbY | Does anyone know how a phone rings? Why a phone would ring on a regular PSTN but not from an ATA? |
20:45.17 | Err | phones ring from a high-voltage sine wave being placed on the line |
20:45.29 | Err | it's possible that your ATA doesn't produce sufficient voltage to ring whatever phone you're using |
20:45.44 | Err | (if it's a mechanical bell phone - if it's an electronic phone, maybe the ATA isn't producing a clean enough signal...) |
20:46.00 | QbY | I have two phones here. One without an AC ADapter, one With. The one With the AC ADapter only shows the Caller ID--it never rings. The other rings as normal.. |
20:46.03 | QbY | Both work when you pick it up |
20:46.18 | Err | is it possible that the ringer is turned off on the phone? |
20:46.23 | QbY | checked and rechecked |
20:46.33 | Err | are you sure the ringer works? |
20:46.37 | QbY | plugged it into the regular phone outlet, and it works fine.. |
20:46.42 | QbY | move back to the ATA and it won't ring.. |
20:46.55 | Err | since it's handling caller ID, it must notice that the phone is ringing (since caller ID is only sent between ring pulses, IIRC) |
20:47.09 | QbY | exactly.. that's what is weird. |
20:47.33 | joat | too many phones on the same interface/line? |
20:47.40 | QbY | one phone. |
20:47.45 | joat | hmm |
20:47.56 | QbY | there are more phones on the house (pstn) line.. |
20:48.43 | Err | yes, but ma bell guarantees a REN of 10 - I'm sure your ATA doesn't have a REN of 10 |
20:48.45 | joat | same as the phone that won't ring? |
20:48.53 | Err | speaking of, what is the REN on your ATA, and on your phone? |
20:49.11 | QbY | I have a PAP2.. |
20:49.24 | asterboy | ok, Polycom IP 300 operational. |
20:49.39 | asterboy | That was easy...just copied my xml files from IP 500. |
20:49.42 | QbY | REN 0.0A 0.0B |
20:49.45 | joat | google says pap2 has a REN of 5 |
20:49.49 | asterboy | IP 300 of course ignores the 3rd line. |
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20:50.04 | Err | well, I can't imagine the phone has a REN > 1, so that shouldn't be an issue |
20:50.25 | QbY | REN is Ringer Equivalence right? |
20:50.34 | Qwell | ~ren |
20:50.36 | asterboy | Anyone know what needs to be configured on the Polycom phones to get them to register with FWD? |
20:50.42 | QbY | the bottom of the phone says, Ringer Equivalence 0.0A 0.0B |
20:50.46 | joat | ringer equivalent number |
20:50.48 | Err | yes - it's the count of the number of mechanical-bell phones that can be on a given line |
20:51.08 | asterboy | Anyone have a Polycom configured with FWD? |
20:51.20 | QbY | i just for the life of me cannot figure out why it would ring any other phone, and not this one.. but if i plug this one in somewhere else, it works.. |
20:51.26 | Math` | asterboy: you don't have an * box at home? |
20:51.50 | asterboy | I do, but I was hoping to configure it directly. |
20:52.14 | Math` | your phone service isn't voip? |
20:52.49 | asterboy | it is voip on one of the lines. |
20:53.03 | asterboy | Wanted to get the other line to connect to FWD. |
20:53.15 | asterboy | Have all the settings in place, however, it won't register. |
20:53.27 | Math` | well use asterisk, make your phone register with asterisk and make your dialplan forward to fwd when you dial a prefix |
20:53.28 | asterboy | Says wrong user name/pass in logs. |
20:53.33 | Math` | I dial **03[fwdnumber] to call out |
20:53.45 | Math` | then check your user pass? |
20:53.50 | asterboy | ya that is most likely what I'll end up doing. |
20:54.03 | asterboy | I know the pass and name are correct. |
20:54.21 | asterboy | Fender said there may be a setting that needs tweaking in sip.cfg. |
20:54.26 | asterboy | Not sure what it is though. |
20:54.32 | Math` | he said for NAT |
20:54.37 | asterboy | yes |
20:55.05 | asterboy | My other line direct to VOIP provider works. |
20:58.57 | QbY | does anyone have an example of how to program a multi line phone.. ie. caller dials 123 if 123 is busy it tries 321 if 321 is busy, or is unanswered it goes to 123 voicemail |
20:58.57 | asterboy | From the log Registration Failed...Error Code:403 |
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21:01.52 | wasim | Qby: XX,1,Dial(IAX/123)\nXX,2,Dial(IAX/321)\nXX,3,Voicemail(${EXTEN}) |
21:02.14 | QbY | thanks |
21:02.47 | De_Mon | can i unregister a sip line without commenting out the register => directive in sip.conf and reloading? |
21:03.57 | Math` | wasim: _XX |
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21:07.43 | gvag11 | hi all |
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21:10.37 | QbY | Phone rings.. It was the voltage |
21:11.19 | Err | a lot of ATAs (including commercial PBXs) cheat on the output voltage |
21:12.03 | QbY | now, i've gotta go buy the rest of the PAP2's at Office Depot |
21:12.12 | Qwell | QbY: They on sale again? |
21:12.19 | QbY | it was $59 |
21:12.26 | Math` | QbY: do you have a linksys reseller account? |
21:12.27 | Err | without getting Vonage service? |
21:12.46 | QbY | but, since I've got it to work, I can send them out to everyone who needs them at our company instead of using softphones from home |
21:12.49 | QbY | Math.. No. |
21:12.55 | Math` | QbY: a company I work for is probably gonna buy 1000 of them so I'm gonna get some discounts :) |
21:13.10 | QbY | Err. I followed the unlocking procedure, which worked well.. |
21:13.17 | Err | QbY: I meant about the price, actually |
21:13.19 | Math` | hehe |
21:13.39 | QbY | Err. Yeah, without Vonage, $59.. They also gave me a $100 rebate |
21:13.43 | QbY | but I have to sign up with Vongage |
21:14.24 | Err | yeah, I've seen huge rebates - I thought they were $160 with a $100 rebate; that's cool |
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21:17.37 | trixter | 'free' devices that come with a rebate that requires you to sign up and pay a monthly fee arent really free, and I think that advertising them as free should be banned by the FTC for false advertising |
21:17.38 | trixter | :P |
21:17.55 | Math` | hehe |
21:18.21 | Triple1243 | anyone having realtime VM probs with 1.2.1 |
21:18.22 | Triple1243 | ? |
21:18.38 | Qwell | Triple1243: upgrade to 1.2.2 |
21:19.30 | Coccyx | there's an unlock procedure to unlock motorola ATAs from vonage? |
21:19.47 | Triple1243 | hmm Coccyx if you knwo it tell me howlol |
21:19.52 | Triple1243 | i heard sniffing could work |
21:20.07 | Coccyx | in the scrollback I thought QbY was talking about unlocking vonage ATAs |
21:20.17 | Coccyx | not to connect to their service but to reuse on asterisk |
21:20.35 | trixter | afaik I am the only one that has worked on unlocking the motorola vt1000 from vonage |
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21:20.42 | alephcom | hello everyone |
21:20.51 | Coccyx | trixter: any success? |
21:21.04 | trixter | I am not finished with it, although I have gotten almost all the way.. I have tools to make the configuration file that they use, maybe in feburary I will have time to finish that |
21:21.11 | trixter | I have gotten it partially unlocked |
21:21.21 | trixter | there is an article about it on my webpage http://www.0xdecafbad.com |
21:21.31 | alephcom | I'm configuring a TDM400P FXO card. when I try calling the number that hits it. As soon as I hang up then asterisk recognizes that something happend and picks up. Any comments? |
21:22.33 | trixter | I have more information on them than what is on my page as well, the tech manual I have (which I cant post on my page) has additional commands that arent standard to vxworks |
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21:33.52 | jhiver | hi all |
21:33.52 | jhiver | does anybody have this issue with VoIPjet where you dial, it hangs forever before rejecting the call |
21:33.52 | jhiver | and you see this on the asterisk CLI |
21:33.52 | jhiver | chan_iax2.c:1480 attempt_transmit: Max retries exceeded to host 216.118.117.46 on IAX2/voipjet/2 |
21:34.46 | file | couldn't send the packet to voipjet... |
21:34.49 | file | no soup for you |
21:35.17 | JMcA | or perhaps it sent it, but the return packet(s) couldn't get back |
21:35.18 | jhiver | I wonder if it's because of me or if voipjet is down for some reason |
21:35.39 | jhiver | I have no such issue with NuFone or phonext |
21:35.49 | file | jhiver: your soup access is now, TERMINATED! |
21:36.16 | jhiver | file what's you talking about :) |
21:36.36 | JMcA | eh...SOUP has a lot of overhead, if you can get away with just XML POST, you're better off ;) |
21:37.02 | jhiver | ... |
21:37.19 | file | I'm Josh |
21:37.20 | file | nice to meet you |
21:37.34 | file | You may remember me from such Asterisk applications as app_directed_pickup, and chan_sip fixes. |
21:37.40 | file | But today I'm here to talk to you about something far more serious |
21:37.43 | file | Packet loss. |
21:38.13 | Err | jhiver: is this over a LAN? |
21:38.16 | tuxinator_linux | oh no !!! packet loss !!! |
21:38.27 | jhiver | Err: no |
21:38.46 | Err | is there a firewall between the two boxes? |
21:38.53 | jhiver | it's My SIP ATA (public IP) -> SER (public IP) -> Asterisk (public IP) -> VoIPJet |
21:39.12 | jhiver | there is a firewall but it works with NuFone as far as I can tell |
21:39.13 | clive- | file, what packet loss do you ahve |
21:39.24 | file | I have no packet loss. |
21:39.43 | *** join/#asterisk kilobit2001 (n=locid@206-248-159-174.dsl.teksavvy.com) |
21:39.58 | clive- | maybe I picked up the end of a conversation out of context:) |
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21:40.09 | oceanlan | jhiver: i see you are using SER? are you using this to combat NAT problems with phones that do not support STUN?? |
21:40.47 | tuxinator_linux | file doesn't loose packets, he just misplaces them |
21:40.56 | jhiver | oceanlan, no I don't |
21:41.00 | file | indeed |
21:41.09 | oceanlan | I am looking for a way to bypass NAT on networks that use phones that have no STUN support...any ideas? |
21:41.09 | jhiver | I use it to handle all the SIP registers |
21:41.12 | file | for I am a corrupted file! |
21:41.21 | jhiver | oceanlan, SER does look good |
21:41.26 | file | nat=yes canreinvite=no in chan_sip works wonders you know... |
21:41.28 | jhiver | you have a very good paper on onsip.org |
21:41.45 | Triple1243 | you cant bind 2 ips to aasteisk ? |
21:41.47 | kilobit2001 | hello, |
21:41.54 | Triple1243 | then should i tunnel |
21:41.58 | gambolputty | anyone use the REGEX function yet? |
21:42.39 | oceanlan | jhiver: what is your purpose for not having Asterisk do the SIP registration? |
21:42.54 | oceanlan | file: was that directed towards me? |
21:43.02 | file | it was directed to everyone |
21:43.07 | file | or you |
21:43.09 | file | you choose. |
21:43.10 | jhiver | Well, I need SER to handle routing between a few boxes and some customers |
21:43.13 | Triple1243 | anyone hknow how to bind multiiple ips to asterisk ? |
21:43.25 | oceanlan | ok, i have all those settings and I still have problems on certain phones.. |
21:43.25 | jhiver | and so I use it to register my SIP devices as well since it does it very well |
21:43.44 | kilobit2001 | is it possible to specify that cdr only records specific actions into database, instead of all. |
21:43.57 | jhiver | then I use Asterisk as a 'PSTN handoff' gateway |
21:44.01 | dmz | hmm still noone in #asterisk-users |
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21:44.15 | oceanlan | jhiver: are there any performance issues and how does the RTP stream know to goto the asterisk box? is it determined in SER? |
21:44.21 | oceanlan | ahhh |
21:44.29 | jhiver | RTP and SIP are separate things |
21:44.45 | jhiver | SIP is the signaling, it doesn't care about RTP so much |
21:44.58 | oceanlan | right, you answered my question basically by telling me that you are using Ast* as a pstn handoff |
21:45.17 | jhiver | ok :) |
21:45.23 | jhiver | Anybody using plainvoip? |
21:45.28 | jhiver | are they any good? |
21:45.28 | oceanlan | right, i was just wondering when a call is in session, how did the asterisk no to handle it and not the SER.. |
21:45.45 | oceanlan | i have been looking into a SER box.. |
21:45.50 | jhiver | oceanlan, not sure to understand what you mean |
21:45.56 | kilobit2001 | i have cdr mysql running./but get one row for every keypress of callers. is this how it should work? |
21:46.27 | oceanlan | hehe...not sure if I do either...i have never tried to register a device to a different box than the one that is handeling the stream! |
21:46.45 | jhiver | well ser just forwards the SIP call to asterisk and that's it |
21:46.58 | jhiver | it adds a Via: header to stay in the SIP signaling path |
21:47.00 | oceanlan | ahhh..understood. |
21:47.04 | jhiver | and that's all there is to it |
21:47.08 | oceanlan | That was my thought but I wasnt sure |
21:47.36 | file | if you have record routing in your ser.cfg that is... |
21:47.45 | jhiver | file, yes :) |
21:47.50 | file | if not you can have it drop out... and act as a nifty load balancer |
21:47.59 | jhiver | otherwise you loose acks and byes and such ;) |
21:48.11 | jhiver | file ? |
21:48.46 | jhiver | how would you handle the load balancing with SER? |
21:49.00 | file | client sends INVITE to SER, SER load balances across multiple Asterisk boxes, SER does not record route, subsequent packets go between client and Asterisk |
21:49.01 | Triple1243 | SER cant do IAX |
21:49.12 | file | Triple1243: of course not, that's why it's called SIP Express Router |
21:49.17 | Triple1243 | yeah |
21:49.23 | Triple1243 | so doesnt really load balance asteriks |
21:49.26 | Triple1243 | load balances SIP |
21:49.26 | jhiver | yeah sure but config wise how does this work? |
21:49.34 | jhiver | at the ser level |
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21:49.39 | file | jhiver: custom module |
21:49.43 | Triple1243 | complicated |
21:49.45 | jhiver | aaah |
21:49.46 | oceanlan | that is good info to know... |
21:49.46 | Triple1243 | for noob |
21:49.54 | Triple1243 | but search voip-info i guess |
21:49.55 | file | I have other... SER... stuff |
21:49.56 | Triple1243 | never did it |
21:49.56 | kilobit2001 | file-- sip users register with ser and not asterisk? |
21:50.00 | file | that's cool ;) |
21:50.02 | oceanlan | that might come in handy for redundancy and load balancing across boxes. |
21:50.04 | file | kilobit2001: depends on your setup |
21:50.23 | Triple1243 | yeah usually you put SER on outside your firwalled net |
21:50.29 | Triple1243 | and it pushes inside etc |
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21:50.54 | oceanlan | SO this my be an effective way to get around NAT? |
21:51.10 | Triple1243 | y |
21:51.12 | Triple1243 | i assume |
21:51.17 | file | the NAT approaches for both SER and Asterisk are very similar |
21:51.22 | file | nat handling approaches |
21:51.28 | oceanlan | Put the SER on the DMZ or something and have routes between it and the * boxes? |
21:51.28 | kilobit2001 | file: you would do sip registeration with ser, or asterisk? |
21:51.44 | file | kilobit2001: see above, depends on your setup |
21:52.15 | wizard545 | anyone kn ow anything about the FCC fees involved with a 800 number being dialed from a payphone? |
21:52.16 | file | look what I've started. |
21:52.23 | oceanlan | this is very interesting...b/c i still have NAT problems on phones that do not support STUN |
21:52.24 | Triple1243 | anyone kn ow anything about the FCC fees involved with a 800 number being dialed from a payphone? ? |
21:52.25 | file | wizard545: it's to reimburse the payphone owner |
21:52.29 | Triple1243 | that passed to priovider |
21:52.31 | Triple1243 | EX you |
21:52.45 | wizard545 | am i always charged a fee? |
21:52.56 | Triple1243 | so .. you dial from payphone to a voip provider.. they charge voip provier |
21:53.02 | Triple1243 | yes |
21:53.03 | wizard545 | does it show up on my bill from my ogrinator? |
21:53.11 | file | depends on the provider whether they have the capacity or not to know whether to bill you it or not... |
21:53.14 | kilobit2001 | what is the right way of forwarding calls back to ser. is dial the command to use? |
21:53.15 | oceanlan | hmm...SER is on the Wiki right? |
21:53.20 | oceanlan | I need to do some research |
21:53.46 | wizard545 | file, ok, so it's a 50/50 i might not get charged, but do you know the top i can be charged per call? |
21:54.00 | file | ask your provider |
21:54.03 | Err | you should talk to your provider |
21:54.06 | wizard545 | and can asterisk tell if a call is coming from a payphone? |
21:54.18 | file | that's not up to asterisk, it's up to your provider |
21:54.21 | Err | most providers don't pass along that info |
21:54.40 | file | I work at Asterlink... and what we get on calls is ANI2 which tells us whether it's a payphone or not, and we bill on that |
21:54.47 | file | we also have the capacity to pass it on in the dialed number |
21:54.49 | wizard545 | this is a calling card business, so i would need to know, whether or not to surcharge the card |
21:54.59 | file | wizard545: then you have to talk to your provider |
21:55.04 | wizard545 | ok |
21:55.10 | trixter | asterisk can tel if a call is coming from a payphone if you have caller id and LIDB access |
21:55.17 | trixter | odds are you dont have lidb though |
21:55.33 | file | trixter: or have ANI2 if you have a direct PRI, or have ANI2 prefixed to the end of the dialed number |
21:55.39 | Err | that's the round-about way to determine whether or not it's a payphone :-) |
21:56.17 | trixter | file: if you have a provider that even gets that, many dont :/ |
21:56.31 | file | true |
21:56.35 | file | we had to fight for it... |
21:56.39 | file | and right now I'm fighting for RDNIS |
21:56.40 | trixter | lidb requires ss7 typically (there are some gateways that dont but ultimately its an ss7 databse) so that isnt something a home user would do anyway |
21:57.15 | wizard545 | .. hmm.. stuck. |
21:57.22 | Err | heh, if you have an SS7 connection surely you can get the ANI2 data as well :-) |
21:57.27 | wizard545 | nufone is gonna take a week to get back to me |
21:58.35 | trixter | it depends on how you interconnect and what you have opted into for ss7 access |
21:58.48 | trixter | you dont always get full access just becuase you have ss7 between two providers |
21:59.03 | trixter | wizard545: yeah that is normal |
21:59.21 | trixter | at least they will get back to you, many have reported they dont get back at all just ignore people that have problems |
21:59.59 | tuxinator_linux | ~ss7 |
22:00.08 | jbot | somebody said ss7 was can be used in conjunction with ss7box.com - see the website. |
22:02.56 | *** join/#asterisk RoyK (n=roy@87.80-202-9.nextgentel.com) |
22:07.49 | X-Files | Ppls help please, why crash asterisk ??? gdb from core : http://pastebin.ca/37897 |
22:14.14 | pifiu | which file do i have to edit in order to have asterisk start at boot time on fedora core 4? |
22:15.06 | Ariel_ | pifiu, just do in the /usr/src/asterisk directory make config it will setup the startup file |
22:16.06 | pifiu | just make config in that directory? |
22:16.07 | pifiu | really? |
22:16.52 | wizard545 | anoyne know any good voip providers that do 8YY origination at around 2/c a minute except for nufone? |
22:19.10 | inv_Arp | wizard545: I hear asterlink is ok |
22:19.39 | asterboy | Anyone selling broken Polycom IP 500s for parts? |
22:20.55 | asterboy | ~selling |
22:21.08 | asterboy | ~jbot |
22:21.11 | jbot | i guess jbot is only marginally useful at best, or a silly little bugger |
22:21.11 | wizard545 | asterlink is 2/c AWESOME |
22:21.16 | wizard545 | nufone was killing me |
22:21.54 | wizard545 | file are you around? |
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22:27.57 | pifiu | i could have sworn i had to edit some other file to do that |
22:28.52 | troyb1 | hey slePP |
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22:30.18 | Ariel_ | wizard545, nufone was killing you? are you talking about incoming to you calls or your outbound? |
22:30.41 | wizard545 | incoming... no support |
22:31.01 | Ariel_ | pifiu, the make config puts the script for autoboot for you on RH type of systems |
22:31.08 | wizard545 | dropped a couple calls... but that happens.. but takes them a week to get back to me |
22:31.56 | Ariel_ | wizard545, ok for incoming I have been using voicepulse connections side for 11 dollars unlimited inbound. They have been great for me over 2 years now. |
22:32.42 | wizard545 | Ariel_ how many concurrent calls? can they give me a 800 DID? |
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22:34.04 | Ariel_ | wizard545, I don't have there 800 numbers but I have been able to get 4 calls inbound at the same time from them. |
22:34.34 | wizard545 | .. i need a 8YY DI |
22:34.35 | wizard545 | DID |
22:35.18 | Ariel_ | 800 service humm I have not check with them for it. But I like that there iax2 connections. |
22:37.48 | SkalTura | uh |
22:37.51 | SkalTura | this is demanding |
22:38.09 | SkalTura | i'm going to build my first asterisk box soon, infact first any kind of PBX or something like that |
22:38.28 | SkalTura | and already we've got a client which is one of the largest phone service companies in this country! |
22:38.55 | SkalTura | so basicly, i must provide straight from the beginning very high quality service |
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22:44.30 | nesys | Hi folks, I've a problem with asterisk 1.0.9 and debian system ... when I try to make the first call after reboot, I receive an error message, then the safe_mode restart asterisk, and I never see an error |
22:45.09 | nesys | the message is that: http://pastebin.com/516699 |
22:45.16 | nesys | any advice will be appreciated :) |
22:46.58 | SkalTura | with my limited knowledge about asterisk |
22:47.07 | SkalTura | i would say that is a definate hardware problem |
22:47.26 | SkalTura | it makes in illegitimate call and thus crashes |
22:47.59 | nesys | mmm ... memtest86? ;) |
22:49.37 | SkalTura | really good idea |
22:50.19 | nesys | thanks SkalTura :) |
22:51.00 | tronix | could be marginal memory or a cooling problem internally |
22:51.37 | nesys | cooling problem, I don't think so |
22:51.49 | nesys | Temp.= 26.0, 46.0, |
22:52.03 | tronix | guess that looks reasonable |
22:52.05 | nesys | for a sempron 2.2 is good 46, I think |
22:52.24 | nesys | maybe memory problem |
22:52.36 | nesys | (damn ... always mem problem :( ) |
22:53.06 | tronix | does it always exit at same place? |
22:55.01 | nesys | tronix yes always |
22:55.42 | nesys | tronic not the same, sry |
22:56.14 | nesys | memory problem ;) |
22:57.04 | tronix | :) |
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23:05.15 | dmz | anyone have a moment to help with fwd+asterisk? I keep getting a "No Authority Found" error :( |
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23:10.34 | cpm | <PROTECTED> |
23:10.49 | cpm | anyone clueful about this? lend us a hand for a bit? |
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23:18.06 | lesouvage | Is the asterisk community in any way involved in the work of voipsa ( http://www.voipsa.org/ )? voipsa is an abbriviation voip security alliance. |
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23:27.11 | SpaceBass | hey folks |
23:29.16 | SpaceBass | i recently upgraded my AAH install to the latest version and new hardware and I'm having bad jitter and some other prblems |
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23:32.03 | SpaceBass | my old box was a PII 300mhz with 256mb ram and worked fine for my few phones and trunks |
23:32.22 | pifiu | how do i start the cdr on asterisk? so it can start logging? |
23:32.44 | SpaceBass | but I was worried about it dieing so I moved to a 1.25ghz box with 512mb ram |
23:33.29 | SpaceBass | now I have BAD jitter on my zap tel lines and my broadvoice is basically broken... when I call out on my BV trunk(s) it rings and as soon as the other party picks up we both just have dead air... no audio on either end |
23:33.33 | SpaceBass | anyone have any ideas? |
23:35.34 | SpaceBass | anyone awake? |
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23:40.21 | SpaceBass | it looks like it has something to do with the bridge to broadvoice |
23:40.25 | SpaceBass | how can I keep it from bridging? |
23:41.16 | VJ | Hi guys, can anyone guide how to setup ztdummy on slackware with kernel 2.6.15 |
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23:45.42 | SpaceBass | anyone know why I get no audio on outbound calls using Broadvoice but incoming works fine? |
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23:46.23 | Synapes | after creating extension and creating a digital receptionist for it, when trying to call from another extension i get into an error: "486 Busy here" and the digital recpctionst won't answer, any ideas? |
23:47.17 | VJ | <PROTECTED> |
23:47.31 | VJ | i need to install ztdummy instaed of any digium card |
23:47.48 | VJ | any one knowing about the configuration how to do it????? |
23:48.05 | Err | VJ: have you read the documentation? |
23:51.56 | lesouvage | I'm looking for a way to view my cdr.db file. Is there a viewer or a tool I can install? |
23:52.02 | Synapes | anyone? please? |
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23:55.08 | srt | lesouvage: db_dump |
23:55.16 | lesouvage | VJ: I'm not sure but i think "modprobe zaptel" and "modprobe ztdummy" will do the trick. Enter this on the linux prompt. With lsmod you can check what modules are loaded. |
23:55.53 | SpaceBass | anyone else having problems with no audio on Broadboice? |
23:55.58 | SpaceBass | broadvoice even |
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23:56.38 | lesouvage | srt: that's the name of the tool I need to install? |
23:57.36 | srt | you probably already have it |
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