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| 00:00.08 | [av]bani | "more convenient" does not equate to a problem |
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| 00:00.16 | Ikarus | [av]bani: I also have a few rpm packages |
| 00:00.29 | nextime | [av]bani : i prefer deb package, but if you point the package manager question on dselect, you have to try apt, or better aptitude, or synaptics |
| 00:00.30 | [av]bani | hence why i said personal preference |
| 00:01.17 | [av]bani | the fanatical elitism of debian users does get old though, sorta like the militant attitude of openbsd users |
| 00:01.28 | [av]bani | you will use openbsd or they will ddos you into the ground |
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| 00:05.09 | Beirdo | heh |
| 00:05.19 | Beirdo | gentoo users can be rabid idiots too |
| 00:06.43 | nextime | so, you are talking about users culture and politics dreams or about packages tech specs? |
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| 00:08.39 | Beirdo | I like having a packaging system |
| 00:09.05 | Beirdo | after spending all day making Solaris packages by hand... you learn to appreciate any system that makes life easier |
| 00:09.05 | wasabi_ | Okay. I package Debian packages. |
| 00:09.10 | wasabi_ | I have packaged RPM packages. |
| 00:09.20 | wasabi_ | To say .deb's are harder to create than .rpms is massively inaccurate heh. |
| 00:09.25 | nextime | Beirdo : well, i think that you must use the package system most closer to your need |
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| 00:09.34 | Beirdo | aye |
| 00:10.01 | wasabi_ | Have you ever dealt with a 2400 line spec file. |
| 00:10.02 | wasabi_ | My god. |
| 00:10.13 | nextime | for me, is deb, for [av]bani is rpm, for others maybe are other packages, you need to find what is the best fori you :) |
| 00:11.33 | Ikarus | wasabi_: specfiles *shudder* |
| 00:11.51 | wasabi_ | I was the first maintainer of Eclipse on Debian. |
| 00:12.03 | wasabi_ | I can assure you, reading the RH spec file to figure out how they did it was not fun. |
| 00:12.32 | nextime | wasabi_ : are you talking about debian directory files? if yes, there are so many tools to help debian package developers than you don't need to write files by hand in most of cases, and anyway, most "complicated" file in packaging time can be a better use of the package after you finish to develop it |
| 00:12.37 | wasabi_ | Yeah. |
| 00:12.43 | wasabi_ | The files are plain text and easy to read. |
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| 00:12.48 | wasabi_ | control is simple, changelog is simplier. |
| 00:12.54 | wasabi_ | the rules file can build most stuff in 1 line. |
| 00:12.58 | wasabi_ | And that's all you need. |
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| 00:13.24 | nextime | wasabi_ : ok, i agree with you, sorry if i don't understand you first :) |
| 00:13.26 | wasabi_ | The package database is in plain text. |
| 00:13.32 | wasabi_ | Doesn't suffer from corruption. |
| 00:13.39 | wasabi_ | (did RPM ever move off of *db?) |
| 00:14.02 | Jameno123 | i wouldnt use that as an argument |
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| 00:14.23 | Jameno123 | dd skip=300 bs=1024 count=1 if=/dev/zero of=package.database |
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| 00:14.27 | Jameno123 | try to recover from that |
| 00:14.44 | Jameno123 | (fully) |
| 00:14.45 | wasabi_ | Jameno123: there's a tool which will scan a dir of .deb files and rebuild the database from scratch based on which files are installed. |
| 00:14.54 | wasabi_ | So as long as you have your .deb archive, or a CD. |
| 00:14.56 | wasabi_ | You're golden. |
| 00:15.02 | Jameno123 | so long "as" :) |
| 00:15.12 | Jameno123 | but what about the 300 you downloaded |
| 00:15.17 | Jameno123 | argument is moot |
| 00:15.20 | Jameno123 | rpm --rebuild |
| 00:15.21 | wasabi_ | You point the tool at the archive. |
| 00:15.25 | wasabi_ | And it uses apt-file heh |
| 00:15.35 | Jameno123 | just rebuild the database from the indexes |
| 00:15.35 | wasabi_ | Yeah, dumb argument. |
| 00:15.46 | Jameno123 | it offers some form of recovery ;) |
| 00:15.50 | backblue | anyone out there with dundi? |
| 00:15.50 | Jameno123 | without complete regeneration. |
| 00:16.35 | Jameno123 | i perfer urpmi from mandriva, rpm itself is blah |
| 00:16.40 | Jameno123 | *myself* |
| 00:16.57 | Jameno123 | does the thing even auto-fetch dependancies yet? |
| 00:16.59 | Jameno123 | heh |
| 00:17.00 | ManxPower | It's SLEETING outside. |
| 00:17.08 | ManxPower | That's it, I'm moving to brazil |
| 00:17.22 | Jameno123 | sleet where? |
| 00:17.30 | rob0 | ouch, cold here but not sleet |
| 00:17.45 | Jameno123 | cincinnati here, and its freaking not cold what so ever :( |
| 00:17.55 | Jameno123 | jan. and its 40-60 degrees outside |
| 00:17.57 | Jameno123 | its crazy |
| 00:18.07 | nextime | ManxPower : say "ciao" to a brazilian girl's ass for me when you hare in br please :) |
| 00:18.08 | rob0 | Manx and I are in Alabama |
| 00:18.09 | ManxPower | Jameno123, Alabama |
| 00:18.09 | ManxPower | near Birmingham |
| 00:18.29 | Jameno123 | neat. |
| 00:19.04 | rob0 | (I'm up on the TN line.) |
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| 00:19.27 | Pegger | does any one know how you would connect asterisk to level3? |
| 00:19.27 | wasabi_ | Anyways. Still looking for a solution? Is there none? |
| 00:19.43 | wasabi_ | Just looking for somebody selling preconfigured asterisks boxes with some sort of pre-setup web interface to configure stuff. |
| 00:20.08 | wasabi_ | And willing to support it, etc. |
| 00:20.17 | Jameno123 | damn, well that answered that question |
| 00:20.33 | Jameno123 | was gonna say, sure, ill build ya one, $15k! |
| 00:20.40 | Jameno123 | but aint no support with it ;) |
| 00:20.45 | wasabi_ | That's not that big of a price. |
| 00:20.54 | wasabi_ | We just shelled out 20k over a year to a VoIP provider for their system. |
| 00:21.08 | wasabi_ | It's fine, but I'd like more control over it, obviously. |
| 00:21.27 | Jameno123 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:21.28 | Jameno123 | heh |
| 00:21.40 | wasabi_ | You know what I mean. I'm lookingn for solution providers. |
| 00:21.44 | wasabi_ | No recommendations? |
| 00:21.46 | Jameno123 | 1 your nutts, 2 sure ;) |
| 00:22.02 | Jameno123 | nope not really personally |
| 00:23.19 | _Thor | Pegger: do you mean that you want level-3 as your carrier provider? |
| 00:23.49 | Pegger | _Thor, may I pm you |
| 00:23.56 | _Thor | ok |
| 00:24.06 | backblue | anyone using dundi? |
| 00:24.19 | nextime | Jameno123 : 40-60 degrees F are about 10 C right? |
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| 00:24.57 | Jameno123 | 60 definiatly is |
| 00:25.07 | Jameno123 | 32 = 0 |
| 00:26.14 | nextime | yes, 32 = 0 but 1F != 1C |
| 00:26.30 | Jameno123 | 10C = 50F |
| 00:26.57 | Jameno123 | 16C = 60F |
| 00:27.09 | nextime | ok right, tnx |
| 00:27.18 | wunderkin | anyone know how long i should run patlooptest? :D |
| 00:27.27 | nextime | -3 C here... |
| 00:27.45 | nextime | ( and -30 C where i was 2 days ago ) |
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| 00:35.22 | [av]bani | http://bani.anime.net/phonez/ |
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| 00:43.24 | telmich | hello |
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| 00:44.03 | Zodiacal | anyone know why i can't get my sound card to work for paging features in asterisk? heres my problem with my logs..: http://forums.digium.com/viewtopic.php?p=11886#11886 |
| 00:44.47 | Zodiacal | err, my logs arn't a problem, but i posted them about my problem :P |
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| 00:48.32 | AgiNamu | Hi there |
| 00:48.57 | telmich | how to start best to configure asterisk online for use with iax2? |
| 00:49.22 | telmich | I apt-get installed it on my debian system, which comes with many configuration files. any pointer to FM would help |
| 00:49.57 | Pegger | telmich, you have to set up iax.con then check to see if they are connecting to yor provider then set up the extensions.conf |
| 00:49.58 | AgiNamu | http://pastebin.ca/36751 <-- what would the peer config look like to auth successfully with that? |
| 00:50.23 | telmich | Pegger: provider? I want to have it stand alone |
| 00:50.37 | telmich | Pegger: you mean iax.conf instead of .con, correct? |
| 00:50.59 | Pegger | telmich, what kind of phones soft hard if soft what kinds of platforms |
| 00:51.19 | Qwell | telmich: first off, I'd recommend not using the debian packages. compile from source |
| 00:51.20 | telmich | Pegger: I only want Linux and windows softphones, which speak iax2 |
| 00:51.28 | telmich | Qwell: ok, will do so |
| 00:51.39 | Qwell | do that before you do any configuration |
| 00:51.45 | Qwell | 1.2 changes quite a bit |
| 00:52.14 | Pegger | telmich, well configure the iax phones in the iax.conf and then setup the dial plan same pretty much as before |
| 00:52.14 | telmich | wow, 10MiB source code |
| 00:52.30 | telmich | Pegger: never did any asterisk before |
| 00:52.59 | Qwell | ~docs |
| 00:53.01 | jbot | somebody said docs was probably Documentation can be found at http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk or http://www.asteriskdocs.org or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/asterisk or http://www.asteriskguru.com, or http://www.astmasters.net/howtos.html |
| 00:53.02 | Qwell | ~wikis |
| 00:53.03 | jbot | rumour has it, wikis is http://www.voip-info.org |
| 00:53.29 | telmich | Qwell: thanks |
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| 00:55.45 | AgiNamu | Found user 'footel' Jan 14 00:52:51 NOTICE[6704]: chan_sip.c:10294 handle_request_invite: Failed to authenticate user "5554441000" <sip:footel@10.45.1.38>;tag=as10b2a171 |
| 00:55.45 | AgiNamu | R |
| 00:55.52 | Pegger | tecnico, it is not that bad once you get ahold of it |
| 00:56.06 | AgiNamu | Why is it trying to autehtnicate user "555444...." ? shouldnt it just see footel? |
| 00:56.27 | telmich | Qwell: the README is pretty good to read |
| 00:56.28 | Pegger | AgiNamu, not sure try changing it around |
| 00:56.37 | Jameno123 | footel@ is the extension to ring |
| 00:56.41 | Jameno123 | 'footel' |
| 00:56.42 | AgiNamu | ive played with the fromuser, authuser, sendrpid trustrpid |
| 00:57.04 | Jameno123 | afaik |
| 00:58.34 | AgiNamu | footel is what we have as fromuser authuser |
| 00:58.36 | AgiNamu | and username |
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| 01:00.36 | wunderkin | [av]bani: hmm yeah their name servers don't respond, when i trace to their nameservers, i get to from LA to fremont, ca on XO :P |
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| 01:01.34 | Jameno123 | xo - nothing from toronto |
| 01:02.16 | Jameno123 | xo - nothing from cincinnati (level3) |
| 01:02.36 | Jameno123 | and nothing from new jersey ;) |
| 01:02.40 | Jameno123 | id say they are pretty dead |
| 01:03.52 | harryvv | Trying to recall a regular user here who is a electrical engineer |
| 01:05.24 | Chuji | Jameno123 : Yeah, my goddamn colo is at XO |
| 01:05.29 | wunderkin | ah |
| 01:05.44 | harryvv | ch, what do thay charge you for colocation? |
| 01:05.51 | wunderkin | i was thinking about colo there, in phoenix.. getting an LD PRI through them too but they wanted too much |
| 01:06.05 | wunderkin | they had a nice deal on power and space but you had to have a min commit for services |
| 01:06.12 | Chuji | It's pretty cheap, I've got a rack and 10mb internet for 1k |
| 01:06.26 | wunderkin | what location |
| 01:06.30 | Chuji | Nashville |
| 01:06.36 | harryvv | Chuji what are thay charging? |
| 01:07.00 | Chuji | I've got a 100mb metro ethernet circuit to them too |
| 01:07.18 | Chuji | Harry ^^^ 1k per month |
| 01:07.26 | harryvv | I mean, what are you doing with the service |
| 01:07.30 | AgiNamu | XO just quoted me $3000 for 10mbps lol |
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| 01:08.03 | harryvv | Chuji is this a bussiness? |
| 01:08.06 | Chuji | harryvv : Our corporate web presence (which is currently down right now) is with them |
| 01:08.15 | Chuji | Yeah |
| 01:08.17 | harryvv | beb hosting |
| 01:08.19 | harryvv | k |
| 01:08.34 | harryvv | I know of a site that charges 10 dollars a year |
| 01:08.36 | Chuji | Yeah, I've got a handful of web servers and sql servers in a rack over there |
| 01:08.44 | argentas | anyone know what the current thinking is regarding TDMoE, is it still being developed/maintained or has it pretty much been deprecated in favour of IAX? |
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| 01:09.05 | wunderkin | argentas, not being further developed |
| 01:09.13 | harryvv | I was looking at a local PC shop web site that originates here in vancouver. I come to find out there site is hosted by a isp on Christmas Island. |
| 01:09.55 | Chuji | harryvv : I've got some pretty complicated SQL processes. I need to have my own gear |
| 01:10.10 | harryvv | i see |
| 01:10.15 | harryvv | mysql? |
| 01:10.29 | Chuji | nuh uh, Oracle |
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| 01:10.34 | harryvv | k |
| 01:10.48 | harryvv | Oracle bought out people soft |
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| 01:11.04 | wunderkin | there are some people online here with *.xo.net hostnames :P |
| 01:11.25 | wunderkin | must not be completely broken then |
| 01:11.34 | harryvv | and people here were ticked off. |
| 01:11.43 | argentas | wunderkin, yeah, I thought that was probably the case, given the kernel badness issues with 2.6. 'tis a shame, cos in a purely PRI environment it makes passing ANI, CLID, and iSDN type and plan much simpler |
| 01:12.20 | backblue | anyone with realtime & nat? anyone with dundi protocol? |
| 01:12.56 | wunderkin | argentas, i was wanting to play with it too.. i saw something about a patch somewhere, probably on the wiki |
| 01:13.30 | harryvv | Got a chance...hopfuly of getting a brand new laptop for 500 dollars. Some company surplusses there hardware and its only 2-3 years old. |
| 01:14.30 | argentas | wunderkin, yep, the patch is here: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.telephony.pbx.asterisk.devel/14061 |
| 01:15.28 | argentas | i've sucessfully applied it to several of my boxes (both 1.0 and 1.2), but i'm kinda reluctant to rely too much on tdmoe going forward if it's not going to be maintained |
| 01:16.01 | wunderkin | some people say there isn't anything to maintain.. but i just spoke with kpfleming about it and he said theres some problems in it |
| 01:16.05 | wunderkin | but i dont know what he said |
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| 01:20.26 | telmich | so, got asterisk installed from source, let's read some documentation you showed above |
| 01:21.04 | argentas | with the patch, it's certainly working ok for me now. I've got a mesh with several boxes with quad E1 and 120 channels of TDMoE, and several boxes just dealing with the switching logic (tdmoe only) |
| 01:22.03 | argentas | i'm a bit unclear as to whether the kernel softirq kernel badness issue is a tdmoe bug, a kernel bug, or just a kernel policy change in recent 2.6 kernels |
| 01:23.36 | justinu | argentas: you're using tdome? |
| 01:23.39 | justinu | tdmoe |
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| 01:25.39 | argentas | yes, what i want to do gets rather complicated with IAX, or at least there's a lot more to consider with regard to passing network cli, presentation cli, and numbering type/plan etc.. whereas with tdmoe i can run euroisdn and everything just gets forwarded on seamlessly |
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| 01:26.16 | AgiNamu | OK, SIP sucks. I'm willing to pay for someone to demonstrate how I make it not suck so much. (simple auth problems) :) MSG me |
| 01:27.03 | justinu | argentas: is it working out well for you? |
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| 01:27.22 | Ikarus | How many people would be msg'ing AgiNamu now |
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| 01:27.46 | ravenpi | So, what's a good, free, softphone? |
| 01:28.14 | AgiNamu | Ikarus not many :( |
| 01:28.20 | argentas | justinu: seems to be.. only issue i've identified so far is that i seem to be transcoding between alaw on my E1s and ulaw on the tdmoe trunks, but i think that's just a config issue |
| 01:28.42 | Ikarus | AgiNamu: shame, thought we had enough die hard capitalists here |
| 01:29.01 | AgiNamu | fine, I wont pay! :) |
| 01:29.16 | Pegger | I would love to talk to any people who actully have a voip business setup up about how they are configured |
| 01:29.49 | argentas | and tbqh, i only noticed that cos i sent a single call back and forth 120 times between 3 boxes to test it (by which point the audio sounded horrible) |
| 01:29.53 | Ikarus | AgiNamu: just toss thwe question in the channel for most chance |
| 01:30.27 | justinu | argentas: is asterisk involved in that problem? |
| 01:30.43 | Ikarus | 120 times |
| 01:30.44 | Ikarus | ouch |
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| 01:34.53 | argentas | justinu, it's not really an issue, i suspect i just need something in zapata.conf or zaptel.conf to tell it i want to use alaw on the tdmoe. |
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| 01:36.01 | argentas | and i've sucessfully bounced a single call back and forth between two boxes, utilising 120 channels of tdmoe and it worked fine, so i'm happy that tdmoe works for me now.. |
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| 01:37.11 | argentas | i'm just concerned whether there is the interest left in this (where most people now seem to be using IAX) for it to be a sage option to be using going forward (or whether it's just gonna end up being phased out completely) |
| 01:37.38 | AgiNamu | http://pastebin.ca/36752 <--- The problem (a sip debug) http://pastebin.ca/36753 <-- The configs |
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| 01:41.16 | wunderkin | i haven't been able to get tdmoe to work personally |
| 01:41.53 | jebba | Hmm. Anyone know what's up with the Sipura 2100 and wireless? I see no mention of it in the docs/specs, but in the configuration of it you can set ESSID/WEP, etc... |
| 01:41.57 | wunderkin | can you show me your zaptel and zapata conf? i must be doing something wrong there, i havent made any patches, what is that one patch for? |
| 01:42.26 | wunderkin | there is not much in the way of tdmoe docs, the howto only shows 1 span |
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| 01:42.40 | wunderkin | i have a 4 port t1 card on both sides, then i want to add tdmoe on top of that |
| 01:42.52 | argentas | I worked on a 2 year project for a uk telco, developing a routing/billing platform for a commercial ss7 switch, and i'd like to try and do a similar sort of thing with a cluster of asterisk boxes. My plan is to use core cluster of asterisk boxes which deal with the switching/bridging/billing logic, and for these to communicate via tdmoe with gateway asterisk boxes which deal with E1s, T1s, SIP, IAX etc.. |
| 01:43.27 | argentas | such that expanding the system is just a case of adding additional 'border' boxes |
| 01:43.38 | Aces1Up | i have a little question, what does a sip termination and origination provider provide exactly? just a place for your sip phones to connect to for a phone number? |
| 01:44.12 | Pegger | I would love to talk to any people who actully have a voip business setup up about how they are configured |
| 01:44.45 | argentas | Aces1Up: yep, pretty much, origination will give you some pstn phone numbers routed to your sip address, termination will allow you to make calls from SIP to the PSTN |
| 01:46.01 | [av]bani | argentas -> have you checked into SER / sipX ? |
| 01:46.05 | Aces1Up | arg thanks, so basically they are the phone company provider for your sip phones. |
| 01:46.38 | justinu | argentas: thanks for the info re: TDMoE :) |
| 01:46.43 | Aces1Up | I suppose they charge per minute or are there flat rate plans on a per port basis.. unlimited calling plans. |
| 01:46.56 | argentas | Pegger: I'm going down that route at the moment, my current business is predominetly fixed line telephony, and i've managed to move most of it off of proprietry switch platforms to asterisk over the past 6 months or so, next step is to start offering some VoIP services |
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| 01:48.43 | argentas | Aces1Up: probably depends where you are, which country you want telephone numbers for and/or which destinations you want to be able to dial. certainly in the UK we have a range of providers offering a bit of both (per min and per month with inclusive calls type services) |
| 01:52.04 | AgiNamu | So no takers on SIP auth issues? :( |
| 01:52.08 | AgiNamu | I'm willing to pay or not pay :D |
| 01:52.41 | argentas | [av]bani: I've looked at SER, but not sipX. biggest headache is NAT traversal cos there's no one-size-fits-all solution |
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| 01:54.04 | Ikarus | My answer, IPv6 and FAST, morons at the current large ISP's...... |
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| 01:54.20 | justinu | Ikarus: that would be very nice |
| 01:54.32 | Ikarus | I am so pissed about dealing with NAT |
| 01:54.39 | tengulre11 | Hi,all! |
| 01:54.42 | AgiNamu | Be pissed at the designers of SIP |
| 01:54.45 | kc5cqm_ | I like how IAX handles NAT |
| 01:54.48 | Ikarus | AgiNamu: no, not SIP related |
| 01:54.52 | tengulre11 | what's kind of chipset of X100P? |
| 01:54.57 | justinu | no, be pissed that we even neet crap like NAT |
| 01:55.08 | Ikarus | AgiNamu: I never use SIP outside of my own network |
| 01:55.08 | kc5cqm_ | ipv6 will make nat go away |
| 01:55.09 | AgiNamu | oh wow first time I've heard NAT being sworn at without SIP ;) |
| 01:55.14 | kc5cqm_ | but it may take a decade to phase in... |
| 01:55.18 | Ikarus | justinu: exactly the thing I am pissed at |
| 01:55.36 | Pegger | justinu, if we did not have nat then isp would want to try and charge per device connected |
| 01:55.39 | Ikarus | justinu: I have literally screemed at 2 ISP's over the phone at their reluctance at providing IPv6 |
| 01:56.04 | Pegger | Ikarus, did it hep |
| 01:56.07 | Pegger | *help |
| 01:56.10 | justinu | pegger: interesting theory |
| 01:56.13 | Ikarus | Pegger: no |
| 01:56.18 | Ikarus | Pegger: bit it did make me feel better |
| 01:56.40 | Ikarus | Pegger: I called them a bunch of arrogant bastards that didn't give a single fuck about their customers |
| 01:56.45 | AgiNamu | Pegger, meh, only crap ISPs. |
| 01:56.50 | Ikarus | Felt great |
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| 01:57.14 | AgiNamu | does asterisk do ipv6 ? |
| 01:57.19 | AgiNamu | its been a while since i checked :) |
| 01:57.22 | Ikarus | Pegger: there is one customer ISP here providing IPv6 (/64 by default /48 on request) |
| 01:57.36 | justinu | how many hosts does a /64 give you? |
| 01:57.47 | Pegger | Ikarus, and which one is that |
| 01:57.48 | Ikarus | justinu: 64 bits local |
| 01:57.52 | Ikarus | Pegger: XS4all |
| 01:57.57 | Ikarus | justinu: so 2^64 |
| 01:58.00 | AgiNamu | yea |
| 01:58.03 | justinu | wow, why would you need a /48 then? |
| 01:58.05 | argentas | I'm not entirely convinced IPv6 will make NAT go away.. a lot of people are using NAT to shield networks of machines from being on public IPs (even where they have the spare IPs) |
| 01:58.05 | justinu | christ |
| 01:58.12 | AgiNamu | justinu , some fun new routing things |
| 01:58.19 | kc5cqm_ | hopefully that'll be a user decision to make |
| 01:58.20 | Ikarus | justinu: the minimal size of an Ethernet segment's assigned range is a /64 |
| 01:58.23 | AgiNamu | argentas , yea, NAT forms a key part of defence. |
| 01:58.39 | Ikarus | argentas: you can also filter on the router |
| 01:58.47 | Pegger | Ikarus, yaha they sound like they do some pretty neet stuff, I am guessing that they are able to keep managers / red tape to a minium which makes a big diffrence |
| 01:58.49 | Ikarus | justinu: has to do with the autoconfiguration logic |
| 01:58.56 | Nugget | using nat as a security device is misguided at best. |
| 01:59.02 | Cyon | For some reason I really don't think a /64 is 2^64... |
| 01:59.06 | AgiNamu | Nugget , tell that to cisco? :) |
| 01:59.07 | Ikarus | Cyon: it is |
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| 01:59.23 | Nugget | nat is routing, not security, and you shouldn't entertain the laziness of thought that allows people to view it as a security measure |
| 01:59.27 | argentas | Ikarus: you can, but you have to ask how many average users would have the skills (and inclination) to do so. |
| 01:59.27 | Ikarus | Cyon: 64 bit host, 64 bit networking |
| 01:59.30 | AgiNamu | cyon, it's 128 bits. the /64 leaves you with 64 bits left |
| 01:59.50 | Ikarus | argentas: so do it for them as they now do for NAT |
| 02:00.21 | AgiNamu | Nugget quite agreed. |
| 02:00.21 | justinu | ikarus: i really need to get up to speed on ipv6 |
| 02:00.21 | Cyon | So when you use the ^ you are referring to "2 to the power of 64" ? |
| 02:00.22 | Ikarus | yes |
| 02:00.22 | Cyon | *are not |
| 02:00.22 | Ikarus | I am |
| 02:00.22 | AgiNamu | Althought NAT can hide your topography, etc. |
| 02:00.22 | Cyon | Ok.... |
| 02:00.25 | Pegger | when you get termination from one of the big carriers like xo or level3 what kind of protocal are you using sip, iax, or something else? |
| 02:00.31 | AgiNamu | which is a nice layer |
| 02:00.40 | Ikarus | Pegger: the problem is, XS4all only provides ADSL connections, while I have two remote office users on cable |
| 02:00.44 | AgiNamu | Pegger almost all SIP. some H323. L3 is SIP only aFAIK |
| 02:00.49 | tengulre11 | anybody know what's kind of chip of OEM X100P? |
| 02:00.52 | Ikarus | Pegger: SIP normally |
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| 02:01.36 | Ikarus | Cyon: if you have a /48 you have enough address space to assign multiple addresses to each grain of sand |
| 02:01.42 | Cyon | Well bugger me; I'm wrong. lol |
| 02:02.12 | AgiNamu | Maybe they will make a new RFC For SIP ipv6 tht will randomly allocate an IP per call |
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| 02:02.26 | justinu | ikarus: do you have any good suggestion starting points for learning ipv6? |
| 02:02.40 | Cyon | Ikarus: *nod* I just had the progression of 2^X wrong; quickly did the math and it's 1.8 * 10^19 which right |
| 02:02.41 | Ikarus | justinu: not really, I started a few years ago on 6bone |
| 02:02.58 | Cyon | Well, rounding. ;-) |
| 02:03.01 | justinu | is that ipv6 running on v4? |
| 02:03.09 | Vco | for all the premisise equip that supports ipv6 |
| 02:03.56 | kc5cqm_ | I use voicepulse for IAX2 termination |
| 02:04.01 | kc5cqm_ | they're reasonable |
| 02:04.06 | Vco | on a cost/complexity vs benefits comparison, those isps were probaby sitting there giving you the finger having a good laugh at your ranting on the phone |
| 02:04.34 | Ikarus | justinu: 6BONE was the experimental IPv6 backbone, it consisted of both native and tunneled links (I as a home user was even a router on that, BGP + public AS and everything) |
| 02:04.52 | kc5cqm_ | HE.net offers ipv6 tunnels to play with |
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| 02:05.08 | Ikarus | justinu: 6BONE and the 3ffe::/16 space is being phased out in favor of the real network |
| 02:05.51 | Pegger | Ikarus, how do you go about getting a public AS number/ |
| 02:06.24 | Ikarus | Pegger: usually an ISP, or if you are an ISP yourself, ARIN/RIPE/etc |
| 02:06.38 | Pegger | Ikarus, how did you get yours |
| 02:07.08 | Ikarus | Pegger: 6BONE has/had their own range of AS's assigned by ARIN |
| 02:07.37 | Pegger | Ikarus, can you still get them? |
| 02:07.45 | Ikarus | No |
| 02:07.51 | Ikarus | 6BONE is being taken apart |
| 02:08.06 | Pegger | it would be nice it AS numbers where easier to get then you could set up some really great routing based on how close you are to the client |
| 02:08.35 | Ikarus | Pegger: AS is a 16 bit number |
| 02:08.40 | Ikarus | 65536 possible |
| 02:08.52 | Pegger | Ikarus, ok |
| 02:09.16 | Pegger | anyone know if it is possible to get more then 24 did on one t1 line and then just route the did based on the incomming did |
| 02:09.26 | AgiNamu | yes |
| 02:09.36 | AgiNamu | yo ucan get any number of DIDs on a an ISDN line |
| 02:09.45 | AgiNamu | its just a number in the Q.931 SETUP |
| 02:09.46 | Pegger | AgiNamu, humm interesting |
| 02:09.51 | AgiNamu | i have a few hundred on one group |
| 02:09.53 | Ikarus | Pegger: But getting them from the number boys is pretty easy, just some mails, faxes, done |
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| 02:09.55 | AgiNamu | and hundred on another |
| 02:10.06 | silentfury | hey, does anyone here have a polycom sip 301 phone ? |
| 02:10.12 | AgiNamu | itll be like 50 cents a DID or something like that usually |
| 02:10.15 | Pegger | Ikarus, how much would say 10 or 100 cost? |
| 02:10.27 | AgiNamu | we buy them for like $5 or $10 for a group of 20 |
| 02:10.35 | AgiNamu | (with Qwest, for instance) |
| 02:10.40 | Pegger | AgiNamu, you are awsome you answered my question before i even had a change to finsh typing |
| 02:10.47 | Ikarus | Pegger: why on earth |
| 02:10.55 | AgiNamu | silentfury, I used to , but it sucked so much we got Cisco phones :) |
| 02:11.13 | AgiNamu | actullay, I had the polycom 501 |
| 02:11.20 | Pegger | AgiNamu, you ever try sccp over nat? |
| 02:11.26 | AgiNamu | Pegger using it right now |
| 02:11.28 | AgiNamu | no issues |
| 02:11.32 | Pegger | with asterisk? |
| 02:11.35 | AgiNamu | no |
| 02:11.37 | Pegger | oha |
| 02:11.49 | AgiNamu | i dont know anything about SCCP |
| 02:11.57 | AgiNamu | except that it works a hell of a lot better than SIP for our office. |
| 02:12.07 | Pegger | oha |
| 02:12.18 | silentfury | is there a known issue with Polycom phones and the fact they seem to a) lose registration and b) not register ? |
| 02:12.21 | AgiNamu | SIP is so hilariously funny... |
| 02:12.34 | Pegger | AgiNamu, can i send you a few pm |
| 02:12.47 | AgiNamu | I love the whole idea of using UDP, of mixing different layers (lets put the layer3 IP data in our application headers!) |
| 02:12.50 | AgiNamu | sure thing |
| 02:12.58 | harryvv | silent, mine been okay |
| 02:13.18 | [av]bani | namu -> sounds like you'd love h323 |
| 02:13.35 | Ikarus | Pegger: see message |
| 02:14.19 | AgiNamu | [av]bani haha yea I sure do :) |
| 02:14.36 | AgiNamu | Anyone going to the TMC IP tel conference in Ft Lauderdale this month? |
| 02:14.51 | [av]bani | h323 is great, its like the X.25 guys rose from their graves and said "hey lets write a telco protocol using 1970s designs" |
| 02:15.15 | argentas | silentfury: I had a couple of IP4000 conference phones on eval from polycom and did experience some registration issues |
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| 02:15.51 | argentas | they'd register reliably, but lose registration randomly |
| 02:15.51 | silentfury | well, I'm using sipxchange.. but I figured I'd ask and see if it's a known problem since if it's having issues with sipxchange.. it'd probably have the same issue with asterisk. |
| 02:16.01 | AgiNamu | argentas yea me too :) |
| 02:16.13 | silentfury | well, I managed to register two phones today. the third wouldn't register no matter how hard i tried. |
| 02:16.42 | silentfury | then i rebooted the two phones and they lost their registration and i wasn't able to get it back. |
| 02:18.00 | AgiNamu | silentfury, we had like 10 of those phones and had so much trouble we just gave up and sent them all back |
| 02:18.22 | Aces1Up | agi have you had issues with any of the other polycom models? 501 / 601? |
| 02:18.29 | silentfury | i'm using 301's. |
| 02:18.34 | Aces1Up | i'm sorry that was for silent fury. |
| 02:18.49 | Aces1Up | silent you have a preference for a business ip phone? |
| 02:19.05 | silentfury | heh, i'm new to the voip biz.. i've been literally thrown into the fire |
| 02:19.15 | Aces1Up | silent yeh me too. |
| 02:19.26 | silentfury | or jumped into the deep end without a life preserver |
| 02:19.30 | Nugget | I think you mean "figuratively" |
| 02:19.41 | Aces1Up | lol, heh, well least i'm waddling into the deeper water, with a small piece of wood to float on. |
| 02:19.47 | silentfury | more or less. working for a voip company and not knowing much about voip.. yea.. |
| 02:19.47 | Nugget | otherise your employer must be pretty awful |
| 02:20.02 | silentfury | not awful. just unorthodox. |
| 02:20.08 | Nugget | heh |
| 02:20.13 | Ikarus | argentas: cow-orker running BitTorrent |
| 02:20.32 | silentfury | they want me to be the office manager. |
| 02:20.36 | silentfury | and i'm 21. |
| 02:20.40 | Nugget | and on fire |
| 02:20.41 | silentfury | needless to say |
| 02:20.44 | silentfury | i'm still in shock. |
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| 02:20.56 | rob0 | silentfury: if you're good you'll be an expert soon :) |
| 02:21.05 | [TK]D-Fender | Aces1Up : Polycom is a great choice for business phones. Very good quality. |
| 02:21.07 | silentfury | assuming i don't drown. |
| 02:21.21 | Aces1Up | tdk yes that is what i have read, and have been providing them for clients. |
| 02:21.23 | [av]bani | http://bani.anime.net/phonez/ |
| 02:21.29 | harryvv | silent, my step dad was the north west regional Music booking agent for big bands at the age of 16 |
| 02:21.32 | Ikarus | silentfury: join the club |
| 02:21.33 | Aces1Up | although i have yet to install one.. |
| 02:21.40 | Ikarus | silentfury: you are not the only one |
| 02:21.41 | [TK]D-Fender | Aces1Up : I run 27 IP60x's at my office |
| 02:21.55 | silentfury | i'm glad. I just wish i had a channel for help with sipxchange :) |
| 02:22.07 | Aces1Up | tkd you run them with asterisk i assume? |
| 02:23.25 | harryvv | office manager at 21...lucky break |
| 02:23.34 | [av]bani | fender -> spa-941 vs cisco 7905g... who wins? |
| 02:23.34 | [TK]D-Fender | Aces1Up : Naturally :) |
| 02:23.36 | silentfury | i was kidding about the office manager bit btw. but maybe in a few years! |
| 02:23.43 | silentfury | gotcha ;) |
| 02:24.08 | harryvv | I was 21 and working on 9 million dollar helicopters. but of course, the goverment owned them :) |
| 02:24.29 | [TK]D-Fender | [av]bani : Question is : wins at what, and for who? |
| 02:24.32 | silentfury | so you're the guy we can blame about the Sea Kings! |
| 02:24.37 | silentfury | :) |
| 02:24.54 | harryvv | it was not a sea kinf |
| 02:24.55 | harryvv | king |
| 02:25.02 | harryvv | anyway |
| 02:25.11 | [av]bani | fender, well afaict 7905 is 1:1 with spa-941, but it has additionally xml |
| 02:25.12 | Aces1Up | tkd mind if i pm you a few questions? |
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| 02:25.53 | [av]bani | for the same price |
| 02:26.02 | [TK]D-Fender | Aces1Up : Go right ahead. |
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| 02:26.24 | Ikarus | silentfury: I am 21 and I am the network/telecoms manager of a company |
| 02:26.27 | [TK]D-Fender | [av]bani : Perhaps you should add the price of the power cube for the price for the 7905G for a REAL WORLD comparison :) |
| 02:26.34 | AgiNamu | Hey, out of interest, what are people using for 911 here? |
| 02:26.44 | harryvv | Ikarus how big is the company? |
| 02:27.04 | Ikarus | harryvv: 30 desks currently |
| 02:27.06 | [TK]D-Fender | [av]bani : Nice little colletion you've written up there though. Link it in the WIKI |
| 02:27.16 | [TK]D-Fender | heck, MOVE it to the WIKI.... |
| 02:27.18 | Ikarus | (no idea about the number of people, but significantly more) |
| 02:27.36 | [av]bani | \o/ |
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| 02:29.00 | [av]bani | the aastras look nice, too bad the display isnt pixels |
| 02:29.11 | [av]bani | xml is a bit limited |
| 02:29.17 | [av]bani | with only 3 lines :) |
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| 02:29.53 | [TK]D-Fender | [av]bani : Yup, and the dependence on a provisioning server... :/ |
| 02:30.01 | harryvv | my truck is eating my money for pc hardware :) |
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| 02:30.10 | [av]bani | what, they have no nvram? |
| 02:30.36 | AgiNamu | I have an aastra, no server |
| 02:30.45 | [TK]D-Fender | [av]bani : So do add $40 for the power cubes for the applicable Cisco phones on your chart :) That alters the "facts" a little closer to "truth" |
| 02:30.54 | [av]bani | the snom 360 would be WINNAR if it had xml |
| 02:30.58 | harryvv | ive seen the aastra are thay as good as the polycom ip500? |
| 02:31.14 | [TK]D-Fender | AgiNamu : Really? I'd heard differnt from a few others around, but if you've got one... |
| 02:31.31 | [av]bani | though this is cool: http://openhardphone.org/ |
| 02:31.48 | [TK]D-Fender | [av]bani : Yeah the 360 is a very interesting option, if only its screeen wasn't butt-ugly. Not sure on the feeel of it though. |
| 02:31.50 | [av]bani | eg, the snom 360 is linux based |
| 02:31.56 | [av]bani | hackable :) |
| 02:32.11 | [av]bani | so even if snom doesnt add xml, end users might |
| 02:32.28 | [TK]D-Fender | harryvv : if you're talking about usability / quality I'd say no chance. |
| 02:32.50 | [av]bani | fender, for $219 i'm sure it feeels fine |
| 02:33.02 | justinu | the aastra is very much like a nortel pbx phone |
| 02:33.03 | [TK]D-Fender | Oh and yeah, you need a power supply for the 480i as well..... add that to your list :) |
| 02:33.14 | justinu | same company that made nortel's phones for them |
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| 02:33.23 | [TK]D-Fender | [av]bani : at $250 An IP 601 feels great ;) |
| 02:33.35 | [av]bani | it damn well better |
| 02:34.04 | [TK]D-Fender | justinu : And am I ever glad to be rid of them! My company almost went BCM... *shudder*. They look / feel like crap |
| 02:34.20 | AgiNamu | [TK]D-Fender , yea its a low end aastra just for use to dial in to test asterisk |
| 02:34.25 | [TK]D-Fender | [av]bani : Whats your take on the 7960G and up then? Must perform MIRACLES! |
| 02:34.29 | AgiNamu | and we sure as hell dont do any provisioning server |
| 02:34.40 | justinu | fender: never heard of BCM |
| 02:35.09 | [TK]D-Fender | justinu : Its the VoIP bastard hybrid of the Norstar series.... |
| 02:35.20 | AgiNamu | the Cisco phones feel and sound way better than the Polycoms ive tried |
| 02:35.31 | harryvv | anyone here from canada |
| 02:35.34 | AgiNamu | oh yea, and they worked reliably |
| 02:35.35 | [TK]D-Fender | just as bad as an 8x24 w/ web interface to the SAME CRAP MENU FUNTIONALITY! |
| 02:35.40 | AgiNamu | harryvv I'm Canadian... |
| 02:35.48 | harryvv | agi, living here? |
| 02:35.52 | AgiNamu | livign in Denver |
| 02:35.56 | [av]bani | [TK]D-Fender: slices, dices, does laundry too |
| 02:36.10 | harryvv | where from ? |
| 02:37.30 | AgiNamu | Stratford Ontario |
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| 02:37.38 | AgiNamu | why? |
| 02:37.41 | [av]bani | [TK]D-Fender: 7912g has poe, so no psu \o/ |
| 02:37.46 | harryvv | curios |
| 02:37.57 | [TK]D-Fender | [av]bani : and thats its downfall... |
| 02:38.05 | [av]bani | ? |
| 02:38.33 | [TK]D-Fender | [av]bani : that model uses CISCO PoE, not eve 802.3af <- = screwed |
| 02:38.41 | [TK]D-Fender | :D |
| 02:39.13 | [TK]D-Fender | So unless you're spending $$$ on old Cisco PoE switches you're going to have to shell out 40$ more |
| 02:39.18 | [TK]D-Fender | for an adapter. |
| 02:39.19 | [av]bani | ha |
| 02:39.32 | [TK]D-Fender | MAJOR catch. |
| 02:39.36 | [TK]D-Fender | Add that to our table. |
| 02:39.43 | telmich | can someone try to call me via iax2? |
| 02:39.49 | harryvv | 40 dollars per port? |
| 02:40.27 | [TK]D-Fender | Aastra 480i doesn't include power block either. at $209 + $40 = $250. Which is the same price as the IP 601 that comes WITH its own :) |
| 02:40.54 | [TK]D-Fender | harryvv : Yup - http://voipstore.atacomm.com/Shops/ViewItem.aspx/27934028032-29484911872.htm |
| 02:40.55 | telmich | it would be bruehe.schottelius.org as server, 'utest' as user and 'xtest' as passwort. my number is 666 |
| 02:41.01 | [av]bani | 480i does 802.3af though |
| 02:42.19 | justinu | yeah, any only 802.3af |
| 02:42.20 | [TK]D-Fender | [av]bani : True, but for those who don't have it (most home / small office users), thats more to spend. |
| 02:42.24 | justinu | s/any/and |
| 02:47.30 | [TK]D-Fender | so, Aces1Up, what did you want to know? |
| 02:47.32 | justinu | i'd probably recommend the ip601 over the 480i |
| 02:48.19 | [av]bani | [TK]D-Fender: heh, looks like the 480i's _only_ power source is 802.3af |
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| 02:48.25 | [av]bani | so you buy theirs, or your own |
| 02:48.40 | [TK]D-Fender | justinu : The bonus's weight in : Pixel display, more lines (good for presence, etc), expandable... |
| 02:48.55 | [TK]D-Fender | [av]bani : exactly. Add to your page! |
| 02:48.57 | justinu | fender: yep... |
| 02:49.03 | Aces1Up | tkd i sent you a couple pm's did you get them? |
| 02:49.12 | [TK]D-Fender | Aces1Up : Nope! |
| 02:49.17 | [TK]D-Fender | Aces1Up : try again |
| 02:49.36 | [TK]D-Fender | I jsut sent you one. |
| 02:49.48 | Aces1Up | hrmm guess i can't cause i'm not registreed. |
| 02:49.59 | [TK]D-Fender | possible, just ask in here |
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| 02:50.31 | Aces1Up | just wondering if you had a good suggestion on an origination and termination service. |
| 02:50.42 | [av]bani | 9133i includes wallwart |
| 02:51.14 | justinu | i'm trying to convince my people to resell level3 services to smaller guys |
| 02:51.16 | [TK]D-Fender | Aces1Up : Not really. I work with std telco termination. |
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| 02:51.48 | Aces1Up | tkd hrmm, ok.. |
| 02:51.50 | [av]bani | i think we're gonna skip traditional trunks and go with sip trunks from junction networks or teliax |
| 02:51.55 | [TK]D-Fender | [av]bani : Yeah I looked at that one for a while. Crap display, and I never liked Aastra's speakerphones that much. (Own a PT390 ADSI as well) |
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| 02:53.26 | Aces1Up | thanks tkd |
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| 02:54.32 | [av]bani | [TK]D-Fender: aware of any caveats with the snom 3xx? |
| 02:55.06 | [TK]D-Fender | [av]bani : Another poing for the 941 over the 7905 is the 941 has a full speakerphone. |
| 02:55.26 | bsdfreak | http://jungletrain.net - tune in for the pond -- off the hook :] |
| 02:55.54 | [av]bani | [TK]D-Fender: xml is _major_ though, i only use speakerphone for monitoring |
| 02:55.55 | [TK]D-Fender | [av]bani : Nothing specific. I think the display is fugly, but I don't know about the physical feel. Good functionality list so it could be a winner. |
| 02:56.07 | [av]bani | that is, -5 for half duplex speakerphone, +1million for xml |
| 02:56.13 | [TK]D-Fender | [av]bani : Depends for who as always. |
| 02:56.26 | [av]bani | well yeah if you absolutely need FD sure, but otherwise, xml is huge |
| 02:57.47 | justinu | bsdfreak: never got into drum n bass |
| 02:57.48 | [TK]D-Fender | [av]bani : Depends what you'll use it for, but its a point. One that you have to add $40 to power :) |
| 02:58.39 | file | can someone remind me what I was doing? I forgot... |
| 02:58.46 | [TK]D-Fender | I'd like to try a Snom 360 though.... |
| 02:58.56 | justinu | i have one |
| 02:59.06 | [av]bani | the only thing the snom is missing is xml... |
| 02:59.16 | justinu | i don't think snom has much of a jitter buffer |
| 02:59.21 | [av]bani | and snom caters to asterisk... |
| 02:59.37 | [av]bani | like grandstream does |
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| 03:01.51 | [av]bani | they have a xml button, but no xml implementation |
| 03:02.03 | [av]bani | +1 for intention and -1million for effort |
| 03:02.05 | AgiNamu | well, night all |
| 03:02.53 | justinu | i have all the high end phones except cisco |
| 03:03.01 | justinu | and the one I keep on my desk is the ip601 |
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| 03:04.30 | [av]bani | :o |
| 03:05.16 | [TK]D-Fender | Snom has a few statistical plusses : $200, PoE, lot of speed-dials w/ LED (presences), expandable (Cheap!), GSM (as an OPTION for thos wh need it), STUN .... |
| 03:05.27 | justinu | yep |
| 03:05.56 | justinu | it's sound quality is nowhere near polycom tho |
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| 03:06.14 | [TK]D-Fender | justinu : Owning one I guess I'll have to take your word for ti. |
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| 03:06.49 | justinu | it just doesn't like jitter |
| 03:08.13 | [TK]D-Fender | justinu : Any news on the Poly 7-buddy HINT bug? |
| 03:09.03 | justinu | no, what's that all about? |
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| 03:09.38 | [TK]D-Fender | justinu : If you try to Buddy-watch with the att module, after 7 people it bugs out. |
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| 03:10.17 | [TK]D-Fender | Poly side apparently, which is why I might sooner suggest a Snom 360 for receptionist use. |
| 03:10.20 | justinu | ahh, haven't gotten to play with the attendent module yet |
| 03:10.43 | wunderkin | erm, on my last call.. there were 5 dtmf blips where someone was talking and it thought there was dtmf.. i heard someone mention this on the list a few times |
| 03:12.04 | justinu | "it"? |
| 03:12.13 | wunderkin | ya, asterisk |
| 03:12.21 | justinu | ah |
| 03:12.40 | justinu | where did the dtmf blips come from? |
| 03:14.02 | wunderkin | no one was pressing anything, i dont know.. i was talking to my provider and they said they havent had anyone else with that problem, but i think i have had other calls with that problem.. that was a sip-sip call, some of the others may have been through the pri |
| 03:14.22 | Cinen | Anyone know of a working snmp module for monitoring asterisk 1.2.1? |
| 03:14.23 | justinu | is it talk off? |
| 03:14.29 | justinu | are you running inband dtmf? |
| 03:15.14 | wunderkin | dont know what talk off is, inband for the sip phone, i have my provider set for rfc2833 |
| 03:15.44 | justinu | talk off is when a DTMF recognizer falsely detects dtmf digits in spoken voice |
| 03:15.44 | argentas | Cinen: was gonna ask that myself actually, the only one i have found doesn't seem to compile against 1.2 |
| 03:15.56 | wunderkin | yeah i think so |
| 03:16.11 | Cinen | the one from http://www.faino.it/en/asterisk.html? |
| 03:16.33 | Cinen | I ran into the same problem with it |
| 03:16.46 | justinu | wunderkin: what's reporting seeing the digits... asterisk? |
| 03:16.56 | wunderkin | yeah |
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| 03:18.00 | justinu | wunderkin: change your phones to rfc2833, maybe |
| 03:18.38 | justinu | when you run inband->rfc2833, asterisk bridges in DSP code to recognize the inband digits, and converts them to RFC2833 |
| 03:18.43 | wunderkin | ok, this seems to have just started recently, i have upgraded several times so i dunno.. i've never had the problem when i called out before.. but most of our calling is um.. yeah ;) |
| 03:19.34 | wunderkin | ill try that |
| 03:20.14 | justinu | the asterisk DSP code may be falsely recognizing DTMF digits in the spoken voice coming from your IP phones, and converting it RFC2833 |
| 03:20.31 | justinu | then the PSTN gateway (your sip provider) will reinsert them when it goes back onto the PSTN |
| 03:20.45 | justinu | longshot explanation :) |
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| 03:22.44 | wunderkin | ok thanks for the advice, ill give it a shot.. back to your favorite.. pri.. mark added support for remote loopup now! yey.. i tested between my 2 machines and they are fine, still having intermittant problems, waiting for broadwing to call me so we can further testing now.. we think it may be a problem with the wiring between the niu and me |
| 03:23.17 | justinu | you're still having that problem? |
| 03:23.43 | justinu | btw, we have 3 DS3s of PRI with broadwing, and we just cancelled it |
| 03:24.01 | xachen | thats a lot of channels |
| 03:24.03 | wunderkin | yup, not as often.. just over 3 weeks ago i changed the card and cables between * and the patch panel.. but ive restarted * several times.. starting to creep up again |
| 03:24.04 | justinu | that's 56 T1s |
| 03:24.23 | justinu | sorry, make that 2 DS3s |
| 03:25.25 | justinu | broadwing took a good CLEC in our area (Focal) and ruined it |
| 03:26.03 | wunderkin | heh |
| 03:26.54 | [av]bani | what you switching to then? |
| 03:26.57 | xachen | 28 T1s to a DS3 huh? |
| 03:26.58 | justinu | i could swear there's a way to look the NIU |
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| 03:27.08 | justinu | xachen: right, 672 DS0s |
| 03:27.15 | DrJones1 | what is the best method for encypting an entire ntsc drive? |
| 03:27.24 | xachen | thats a crap load of calls |
| 03:27.29 | wunderkin | justinu, yeah they can, that always tested fine.. and the tests they did to the patch panel were ok too but i'm not sure if they ran all patterns |
| 03:27.31 | xachen | How does one intergate that into *? |
| 03:28.06 | justinu | wunderkin: yeah, you obviously need to do fairly intensive BERTs on those circuits |
| 03:28.09 | wunderkin | justinu, they looked at the stats on the niu and their side was clean, all of the errors were from me |
| 03:28.17 | justinu | xachen: we weren't using the DS3s with * |
| 03:28.27 | xachen | aah :) |
| 03:28.58 | wunderkin | they need to get bert and ernie in on this one |
| 03:29.05 | justinu | heh |
| 03:29.42 | wunderkin | woah, there it goes |
| 03:29.45 | [av]bani | justinu: what you switching to from broadwing then? |
| 03:29.49 | wunderkin | maybe they are mucking with it |
| 03:29.52 | justinu | level3 |
| 03:30.07 | wunderkin | XO |
| 03:30.08 | wunderkin | heh :) |
| 03:30.22 | wunderkin | apparantly they are having some problems today |
| 03:30.58 | justinu | XO... hugs and kisses? |
| 03:30.59 | wunderkin | maybe they are testing to the niu now |
| 03:31.04 | wunderkin | hehe :) |
| 03:31.08 | wunderkin | fancy name eh |
| 03:31.09 | [TK]D-Fender | eXtra Old? :) |
| 03:32.03 | DrJones1 | anyone ever had to encrypt an entire ntsc hdd? |
| 03:32.23 | wunderkin | infringing on L3? |
| 03:32.35 | tainted_ | is it possible to do sip registers on demand |
| 03:32.46 | justinu | what's an ntsc hdd? |
| 03:32.52 | tainted_ | say i want to share a provider account between >1 asterisk box |
| 03:33.59 | justinu | tainted: i don't think so, but i've wondered about it myself |
| 03:34.02 | tainted_ | is my logic all wrong |
| 03:34.25 | Pegger | DrJones1, what is a ntsc hdd i know ntsc is National Television System Committee |
| 03:34.28 | justinu | no, but a real sip provider doesn't require you to register wth them to get calls |
| 03:34.32 | tainted_ | or would i simply forward the call to the second server |
| 03:34.47 | justinu | you might be able to register the 2nd machine with a lower priority |
| 03:34.56 | tainted_ | hmm |
| 03:35.08 | tainted_ | so say machine 1 has the sip register |
| 03:35.09 | justinu | i believe that's part of the SIP specification |
| 03:35.13 | tainted_ | and when machine 2 wants to call out |
| 03:35.16 | tainted_ | it calls machine 1 |
| 03:35.26 | tainted_ | would that be more elegant? |
| 03:35.41 | justinu | well, usually you don't need to be registered to make outbound calls |
| 03:35.53 | tainted_ | how about incoming |
| 03:36.06 | [TK]D-Fender | tainted- : Most places don't support shared appearances so you'd have to pipe server 1 into #2 to go out. |
| 03:36.08 | justinu | yeah, that's how the sip provider knows where to route the call |
| 03:37.13 | tainted_ | i see |
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| 03:38.25 | [TK]D-Fender | justinu : Which server would you have an INCOMING call land on? |
| 03:38.44 | justinu | i'd want it to route to the primary |
| 03:38.56 | justinu | then route to the 2ndary if the primary isn't responding |
| 03:39.01 | [TK]D-Fender | justinu : sounds like you should just pipe A through B |
| 03:39.09 | justinu | i'm pretty sure that SER can route calls like that. |
| 03:39.18 | [TK]D-Fender | justinu : provider may do the failover for you depending |
| 03:39.29 | justinu | level3 does it for us like that |
| 03:39.30 | [TK]D-Fender | unless SER is down. |
| 03:39.33 | justinu | but no registration |
| 03:39.43 | justinu | and SER can't go down... it's mission critical for us, and clustered :) |
| 03:42.03 | Qwell | So, who's gonna write me a SER-like program for sccp? Open source... |
| 03:42.17 | justinu | can you proxy SCCP like SIP? |
| 03:42.22 | Qwell | dunno |
| 03:42.39 | justinu | is there an RFC for SCCP? |
| 03:42.42 | Qwell | dunno |
| 03:42.47 | justinu | or is it closed |
| 03:42.51 | Qwell | probably closed |
| 03:42.52 | [TK]D-Fender | I've got some great ocean-side property in Colorado to sell you if you do! |
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| 04:04.13 | TheCops | hi |
| 04:04.52 | justinu | thecops: ca va? |
| 04:05.08 | TheCops | très fatigué |
| 04:05.09 | TheCops | :) |
| 04:05.24 | justinu | hehe |
| 04:05.32 | TheCops | Et toi |
| 04:05.37 | TheCops | Passé une belle semaine |
| 04:05.45 | [av]bani | http://bani.anime.net/bushblair.swf |
| 04:06.17 | Nugget | http://colo.slacker.com/stuff/italy.swf |
| 04:06.49 | TheCops | What`s the best place to get a dedicated server |
| 04:07.11 | Qwell | TheCops: I like ev1 |
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| 04:07.19 | Qwell | They've been pretty good to me |
| 04:07.49 | justinu | thecops: vous devriez vous reposer :) |
| 04:07.59 | justinu | rackspace |
| 04:08.04 | justinu | if you've got the $$ |
| 04:08.08 | TheCops | justinu, I have some money to get before monday ;) |
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| 04:08.53 | justinu | beaucoup de l'argent, j'espere ;) |
| 04:08.56 | TheCops | lol |
| 04:09.17 | Qwell | So, what is a good open source SIP softphone? |
| 04:09.26 | Qwell | for Linux |
| 04:09.27 | [TK]D-Fender | Grace aux erreurs de mes copains au E-U il m'oblige d'annuler mes vacances pour la semain prochaine.... |
| 04:09.42 | TheCops | [TK]D-Fender |
| 04:09.44 | TheCops | a ton travail |
| 04:09.45 | TheCops | ? |
| 04:09.46 | justinu | i'd be nice to get SIP into GAIM, maybe |
| 04:09.54 | justinu | i hear 2.0 has some SIMPLE support |
| 04:10.03 | Qwell | justinu: there is phonegaim |
| 04:10.05 | TheCops | [TK]D-Fender, c'est sa travailler en informatique ;) |
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| 04:10.37 | perlmonkee | I'm having difficulty with my outgoing CallerID string |
| 04:11.16 | justinu | fender: vous partez en vacance bientot? |
| 04:11.30 | [TK]D-Fender | justinu : they're doing that with GnomeMeeting and porting to windows too:) |
| 04:11.41 | perlmonkee | it correctly reports my name, but substitutes whatever number I provide with SIP:asterisk@<local private ip address (eth0)> |
| 04:11.58 | [TK]D-Fender | justinu : but ince I already use GAIM, that be a big plus for me :) |
| 04:12.25 | justinu | markster should get digium to help out with that :P |
| 04:12.27 | perlmonkee | or, oddly, in one case, it used SIP:asterisk@<external IP address> |
| 04:12.29 | TheCops | [TK]D-Fender, When you expect to do a asterisk meet up |
| 04:12.34 | perlmonkee | when I'm telling it to use 100@kepler.net |
| 04:12.46 | [av]bani | Nugget: nice swf :) |
| 04:12.46 | [TK]D-Fender | TheCops : Next week is pretty open |
| 04:12.53 | perlmonkee | can anyone enlighten me? |
| 04:12.57 | perlmonkee | point me in the right direction perhaps? |
| 04:13.41 | TheCops | [TK]D-Fender, I'm normaly doing 60-70 hours of work so tell me when you know! |
| 04:13.57 | justinu | thecops: that's too much work |
| 04:14.09 | TheCops | justinu, that's the life |
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| 04:14.44 | justinu | i'm lazy |
| 04:15.20 | [TK]D-Fender | perlmonkee : Where does this occur? |
| 04:15.47 | perlmonkee | [TK]D-Fender: where does what occur? |
| 04:15.54 | chandra | hello all. I noticed a thread on sourceforge about using broad voice and dtfm settings and some of you folks responded to it. Does anyone know if the dtfm settings for inbound should be commented out or?? |
| 04:15.59 | justinu | thecops: je prefere jour des jeux video :) |
| 04:15.59 | [TK]D-Fender | your callerid error. whre/who sees it? |
| 04:16.03 | TheCops | lol |
| 04:16.17 | perlmonkee | [TK]D-Fender the recipient of the call is sent the bogus CallerID string |
| 04:16.24 | TheCops | justinu, I love working |
| 04:16.33 | [TK]D-Fender | perlmonkee : What kind of call? |
| 04:16.34 | justinu | i love to work also |
| 04:16.34 | chandra | there wasnt really a resolution on sourceforge |
| 04:16.41 | justinu | but only when it's interesting work |
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| 04:17.04 | TheCops | justinu, hehe |
| 04:17.07 | Nugget | [av]bani: indeed :) |
| 04:17.13 | chandra | any ideas?? |
| 04:17.29 | perlmonkee | [TK]D-Fender a SIP call over the SipPhone network. |
| 04:17.56 | [TK]D-Fender | perlmonkee : And Set(CALLERID() doesn't work? |
| 04:18.17 | Sluggo | anyone have a newer IAXy? I just got one today, have a question... |
| 04:18.32 | mog_home | i have one Sluggo |
| 04:18.37 | perlmonkee | [TK]D-Fender: just before executing the DIAL(), I execute: |
| 04:18.38 | perlmonkee | exten => _6.,1,SetCallerID(5036495086) |
| 04:18.38 | perlmonkee | exten => _6.,2,SetCIDName(Anthony Kepler) |
| 04:18.55 | [TK]D-Fender | perlmonkee : What * ver? |
| 04:19.06 | perlmonkee | HEAD from... 2 months ago. |
| 04:19.12 | chandra | hope someone could bring some resolution to this topic - http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1410772&forum_id=420324 |
| 04:19.13 | justinu | perlmonkee: do you have fromdomain= or fromuser= set in sip.conf? |
| 04:19.17 | [TK]D-Fender | perlmonkee : Should use the new functions... |
| 04:19.25 | perlmonkee | What are the new functions? |
| 04:19.32 | perlmonkee | justinu: no, I do not. |
| 04:19.51 | perlmonkee | justinu: I'm really hoping that they will be the answer to my problems, now that you mention them. |
| 04:19.56 | [TK]D-Fender | perlmonkee : Set(CALLERID(name)=My Name) and Set(callerid(NUMBER)=1234567) |
| 04:20.08 | [TK]D-Fender | cap THE LAST ONE |
| 04:20.20 | perlmonkee | justinu: despite my not knowing exactly what they do. |
| 04:20.21 | [TK]D-Fender | functions are case sensitive IIRC |
| 04:20.56 | perlmonkee | [TK]D-Fender: Okay, I will try that - but this wont stop * from reporting me as 1234567@<IP address of ETH0, as opposed to ETH1> |
| 04:21.28 | justinu | Set(CALLERID(all) = My Name <1234>) |
| 04:21.52 | justinu | perlmonkee: oh, that could be a bug |
| 04:22.02 | [TK]D-Fender | :/ |
| 04:22.02 | [av]bani | http://crazyjim.ramelot.com/14seconds.htm |
| 04:22.12 | justinu | but try using fromdomain=mydomain.com |
| 04:22.21 | perlmonkee | justinu: I will try that right now, thanks. |
| 04:23.04 | perlmonkee | justinu: I totally owe you a cookie. |
| 04:23.10 | perlmonkee | justinu: That fixes it. |
| 04:23.12 | justinu | woof! |
| 04:23.25 | justinu | sweet |
| 04:23.34 | perlmonkee | [TK]D-Fender: Thanks for teaching me the new way of assigning CallerID portions, I will put this into use right away =D |
| 04:24.48 | [TK]D-Fender | np |
| 04:25.39 | [TK]D-Fender | God I'm just bored..... |
| 04:26.39 | justinu | it's friday night |
| 04:26.47 | justinu | shouldn't you be off partying? |
| 04:27.09 | chandra | ill try again - For Broad Voice settings (in coming ) i am told that the dtfm settings are very sepcific to when using the digital receptionist. What are settings - auto or commented out? |
| 04:27.31 | [TK]D-Fender | justinu : I've past my partying prime have a GF (+ 5yr old daugher), and am going out for breakfast early tomorrow |
| 04:28.03 | justinu | i know, i'm old too |
| 04:28.07 | justinu | no kids tho |
| 04:28.26 | *** part/#asterisk rob314 (n=rmckrill@cpe-65-185-169-238.neo.res.rr.com) |
| 04:28.34 | [TK]D-Fender | However I've learned how to play 3 more Iron Maiden song tonight so its not a total write-off :) |
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| 04:28.53 | justinu | guitar? |
| 04:28.57 | [TK]D-Fender | yup |
| 04:29.16 | mog_home | there always plenty of bugs |
| 04:29.19 | mog_home | 228 of them |
| 04:29.42 | [TK]D-Fender | mog_home : I don't code much these days and don't know C |
| 04:29.52 | justinu | i know C ;) |
| 04:29.57 | justinu | and a few other languages |
| 04:29.58 | mog_home | well you could try some of the patches |
| 04:30.06 | [TK]D-Fender | IF U CN RD TS TN U CN PGM N C! |
| 04:30.09 | perlmonkee | There ya go, learn C, [TK]D-Fender - it only takes a couple of hours to get all the syntax. |
| 04:30.11 | mog_home | lol |
| 04:30.21 | justinu | that's more like COBOL |
| 04:30.31 | [TK]D-Fender | mog_home, NO THANKS.. i'VE GONE COLD-TURKEY! |
| 04:30.57 | mog_home | your loss |
| 04:30.57 | [TK]D-Fender | ITS lINUX, THREADING, AND ALL THE OTHER STUFF i'M MASSIVELY OUTDATED ON. |
| 04:31.16 | mog_home | what happened to your keyboard |
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| 04:32.05 | perlmonkee | You could play video games until your eyes bleed. |
| 04:32.17 | justinu | that's what I do |
| 04:32.23 | mog_home | man i have only had that happen once, my eyes bleed |
| 04:32.28 | mog_home | and i had gotten hit |
| 04:32.31 | mog_home | pretty hard |
| 04:32.41 | [TK]D-Fender | there's an idea. I like HL2 on widescreen :) |
| 04:32.49 | justinu | try battlefield 2 |
| 04:32.58 | [TK]D-Fender | justinu : might if I had it... |
| 04:33.03 | perlmonkee | screw the full version - the demo is the best map anyway. |
| 04:33.22 | [TK]D-Fender | I used to spends hours a day on FPS... |
| 04:33.40 | justinu | counterstrike is kinda fun, i'll play a few rounds with you if you have it |
| 04:34.36 | [TK]D-Fender | justinu : Nope, and never really played. I was an AHL (Action:Half-Life) GOD once though. (Hit #1 /#2 on the old tracker site for HL) |
| 04:34.38 | perlmonkee | the only FPS' I have access to are the Quake series, Tribes II, and Americas Army ... its a good thing Linux doesn't have more natively running FPS' or I would never get anything done. |
| 04:35.28 | [TK]D-Fender | CS Always felt kinda lame + the rampant cheating and idiots.... |
| 04:35.54 | justinu | CS source is fun |
| 04:36.07 | justinu | just ignore the idiots |
| 04:36.08 | file | I'M HYPER!!! |
| 04:36.08 | [TK]D-Fender | I occasionally log in for Diablo2 LOD or HL2 for just venting my spleen on bugs :) |
| 04:36.21 | perlmonkee | oh and Soldier of Fortune, and that new-ish wolfenstein game, and Cube |
| 04:36.42 | justinu | america's army is a little too slow/difficult for me |
| 04:36.47 | file | nooooooooooooooo |
| 04:37.56 | [TK]D-Fender | "america's army is a little too slow" <- how true, but their "friendly-fire" skillz are m4d l33t! ;) |
| 04:38.28 | [TK]D-Fender | Sorry... shameless cheap shot... |
| 04:38.36 | [TK]D-Fender | i can resist anything... |
| 04:38.39 | [TK]D-Fender | except temptation :D |
| 04:39.18 | file | how tempting. |
| 04:39.26 | file | >:) |
| 04:40.12 | shido6 | F.E.A.R. is pretty nice |
| 04:40.28 | [TK]D-Fender | Playing D2 in a window now :) |
| 04:40.30 | file | WHAT IS LOVE?!? |
| 04:40.35 | file | baby don't hurt me no more |
| 04:40.36 | [TK]D-Fender | f'n small :/ |
| 04:41.25 | trixter | without R2 you gotta admit D2 is nothing |
| 04:42.04 | justinu | fender: it's tough to ID people in that game, you gotta talk to each other, and report in a lot to keep track of the squads |
| 04:42.43 | [TK]D-Fender | justinu : I excel at that. its also one of my earlier uses of VoIP :) |
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| 04:43.06 | trixter | file: are you talking about http://cgi.4chan.org/f/src/whatisloveultimate.swf |
| 04:43.07 | justinu | fender: then I'd like to be in your squad |
| 04:43.26 | [TK]D-Fender | justinu : AA is free right? |
| 04:43.30 | file | trixter: if that URL worked, I'd give you bonus points - but it doesn't |
| 04:43.48 | justinu | fender: yeah, i have it |
| 04:44.15 | trixter | ahh I just pulled it out of my logs from a week or so ago, was that what you were talking about though? |
| 04:44.24 | file | no, I'm listening to Haddaway |
| 04:44.24 | file | LOL |
| 04:44.25 | trixter | since you seem to recognize the url |
| 04:44.31 | trixter | ahh |
| 04:44.56 | justinu | etn.fm is playing some nice trance right now |
| 04:47.30 | justinu | they have a 192kbps stream ;) |
| 04:47.36 | file | I wish iTunes had such capability that I could transfer playback from one machine to another... either if I was listening to a stream, or using music sharing |
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| 04:48.21 | justinu | itunes has some great stations in their "radio" library |
| 04:48.35 | justinu | i wish i could get this stuff in my car |
| 04:49.11 | file | what I really want inside, is to be able to click a few things and my Mini instantly starts playing what I was listening to on my workstation, at the spot it left off at... but I'm dreaming! |
| 04:49.28 | justinu | that'd be nice |
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| 04:53.05 | dily_ | quit |
| 04:53.11 | file | I refuse. |
| 04:53.55 | drumkilla | file!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 04:54.38 | file | drumkilla!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 04:54.42 | file | you make me so happpppppppy |
| 04:54.48 | drumkilla | haha |
| 04:54.58 | trixter | woo my free copy of voiphacks came today.. gotta see if there is anything at all interesting in there |
| 04:55.19 | file | drumkilla: what'cha doin' |
| 04:56.08 | [TK]D-Fender | file : Today I finally got my cheap photocopied PowerPoint printout from Meet Asterisk :D |
| 04:56.08 | drumkilla | playing with vmware ... |
| 04:56.22 | file | [TK]D-Fender: hahahaha |
| 04:56.32 | drumkilla | yay, Meet Asterisk! |
| 04:56.37 | drumkilla | are file and I in it?! |
| 04:56.39 | file | [TK]D-Fender: nice. |
| 04:57.00 | file | everytime you compile asterisk... a part of drumkilla and I die :( so think of us! |
| 04:57.01 | [TK]D-Fender | drumkilla : It was an excuse for me to get work to pay for me to chat with file, and JunK-Y in person :) |
| 04:57.10 | drumkilla | awesome |
| 04:57.23 | drumkilla | I have never been to a "Meet Asterisk" session |
| 04:57.34 | file | we poked on people and companies in the back of the room while blitz was doing his thing |
| 04:57.35 | mog_home | we should go drumkilla |
| 04:57.38 | file | er poked = picked |
| 04:57.41 | mog_home | that and we need to be dcaped |
| 04:57.43 | file | wow, dyslexic = me |
| 04:57.58 | drumkilla | mog_home: totally |
| 04:58.09 | mog_home | but with trenchcoats and shades |
| 04:58.14 | mog_home | in cognito |
| 04:58.15 | file | drumkilla: have you gotten your muffin certification? |
| 04:58.15 | drumkilla | i'm afraid i might not pass, haha |
| 04:58.22 | drumkilla | not yet |
| 04:58.30 | mog_home | matt and i were joking about it |
| 04:58.46 | drumkilla | i'd do it if they let us ... |
| 04:58.53 | file | mog_home: I'll assume Cresl1n |
| 04:59.00 | mog_home | yes |
| 04:59.04 | file | muahahaha, I rock |
| 04:59.19 | justinu | fark, i need to gen this PBX machine |
| 04:59.24 | justinu | installing it at a customer's tomorow |
| 04:59.27 | Jameno123 | file, you musta died then the other day |
| 04:59.31 | drumkilla | mog_home: I figure, if we fail, then the test is flawed :) |
| 04:59.40 | mog_home | lol |
| 04:59.42 | Jameno123 | asterisk wouldnt compile worth a darn ;) had to compile it like 3000 times to get it to wrok |
| 04:59.43 | Jameno123 | heh |
| 04:59.54 | mog_home | if i failed i would never admit it |
| 04:59.54 | file | drumkilla: ooh we need a developer's certification test! |
| 04:59.55 | drumkilla | Jameno123: was the nublock on? |
| 04:59.56 | drumkilla | :-p |
| 05:00.11 | file | "Before you access a variable that can be accessed by another thread simultaneously... you?" |
| 05:00.33 | drumkilla | bake a tray of muffins? |
| 05:00.37 | mog_home | a license to develope for asterisk |
| 05:00.41 | file | ooh good answer |
| 05:01.14 | Jameno123 | drumkilla, stupid custom box b/s ;) it wasnt asterisks problem, thankyfully. |
| 05:01.43 | justinu | can you do a netboot install of CentOS without media? |
| 05:01.46 | file | "I have a license to code, now move aside sir!" |
| 05:02.13 | file | "I said move aside, or I will replace you with a very small shell script!" |
| 05:02.15 | file | "I mean it!!!" |
| 05:03.02 | file | drumkilla: I'm tired :\ |
| 05:04.02 | file[laptop] | therefore, here I am |
| 05:04.49 | drumkilla | haha |
| 05:04.55 | drumkilla | you are so silly, file while. |
| 05:04.59 | file[laptop] | indeed |
| 05:05.05 | file[laptop] | I'm under my cuddly wuddly white blanket |
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| 05:06.31 | file[laptop] | Nugget'n'fries! |
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| 05:10.49 | wunderkin | justinu, broadwing has been running tests over an hour and a half now.. will find out soon.. something.. |
| 05:13.43 | tainted_ | what's the best way to connect two asterisk boxes to each other? |
| 05:13.49 | tainted_ | IAX or SIP |
| 05:13.54 | Strom_C | IAX |
| 05:14.09 | [TK]D-Fender | IAX : reduces overhead, plus more call control |
| 05:14.56 | file[laptop] | IAX it up. |
| 05:15.18 | tainted_ | any samples/tutorials out there? |
| 05:15.28 | tainted_ | or is it as simple as defining users |
| 05:15.36 | [TK]D-Fender | tainted- : All over the Wiki |
| 05:15.45 | file[laptop] | and the web |
| 05:15.46 | tainted_ | i'm staring at it |
| 05:15.53 | tainted_ | what keywords should i be looking for |
| 05:15.57 | tainted_ | peering asterisk? |
| 05:16.53 | tainted_ | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+-+dual+servers |
| 05:16.53 | Jameno123 | iax.conf |
| 05:17.17 | drumkilla | i hate the wiki ... |
| 05:17.30 | drumkilla | I wish the community would work together on something more in a book/tutorial format |
| 05:17.36 | Jameno123 | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+config+iax.conf |
| 05:17.37 | drumkilla | work with the asteriskdocs guys |
| 05:17.50 | drumkilla | oh well ... |
| 05:18.00 | Jameno123 | drumkilla, too hard to keep updated |
| 05:18.09 | Jameno123 | at the pace things change :( |
| 05:19.00 | drumkilla | well, you would have a version that is current for the current release |
| 05:19.09 | drumkilla | and then you'd update the one for the next release as things are changed ... |
| 05:19.25 | drumkilla | we might even be able to put it in our svn |
| 05:20.02 | Jameno123 | drumkilla, "man pages" :) |
| 05:20.12 | Corydon76-home | Okay, but only if you write the documentation in TeX |
| 05:20.16 | drumkilla | lol |
| 05:20.33 | drumkilla | i was thinking docbook maybe :-p |
| 05:20.41 | Corydon76-home | TeX isn't THAT difficult |
| 05:20.48 | Corydon76-home | especially if you use LaTeX |
| 05:20.49 | drumkilla | I kind of want to reorganize the doc/ directory into a format like that |
| 05:20.56 | drumkilla | so we can export it in pretty format and put it on the webs ite |
| 05:21.04 | drumkilla | since most of that is user documentation, anyway |
| 05:21.08 | Corydon76-home | TeX is very pretty when rendered |
| 05:21.17 | drumkilla | i haven't done my research yet ... |
| 05:21.19 | drumkilla | so I can't really say |
| 05:21.28 | Jameno123 | write it in whatever format you want |
| 05:21.41 | Jameno123 | for users usability though .pdf :( |
| 05:21.45 | Jameno123 | or man pages |
| 05:21.46 | drumkilla | yeah |
| 05:22.08 | drumkilla | and we have talked about doing a lot with the way information about config options are stored ... |
| 05:22.31 | drumkilla | write info about available options in one place, where it could be turned into useful docs, or generated into a header file that asterisk can use |
| 05:22.33 | Corydon76-home | Jameno123: well, the raw docs would be in TeX... you could certainly render that in PDF, though |
| 05:22.46 | drumkilla | yeah, LaTeX would be fine |
| 05:22.51 | drumkilla | i have wanted to learn that anyway ... |
| 05:23.02 | Jameno123 | extensions.conf needs a "include_file" :( |
| 05:23.06 | Corydon76-home | drumkilla: KDE? |
| 05:23.11 | Jameno123 | my extensions.conf is horrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrriiiiiiiible. |
| 05:23.13 | Jameno123 | hehe |
| 05:23.20 | [TK]D-Fender | Jameno123 : it HAS one |
| 05:23.21 | drumkilla | heh, you can already include files ... |
| 05:23.22 | Corydon76-home | Kile is a good TeX editor for KDE |
| 05:23.26 | drumkilla | oh yeah? |
| 05:23.35 | Jameno123 | hrm. |
| 05:23.36 | drumkilla | Corydon76-home: yeah, i'm running KDE now |
| 05:23.39 | Corydon76-home | kile.sourceforge.net |
| 05:23.41 | [TK]D-Fender | Jameno123 : #INCLUDE extensions_morecrap.conf |
| 05:24.22 | Jameno123 | hehe, thats where that "book" :) would come in handy |
| 05:24.32 | Jameno123 | people may actully be able to read it fully ;) |
| 05:24.33 | [TK]D-Fender | ~thebook |
| 05:24.37 | jbot | somebody said thebook was Asterisk: The Future of Telephony, released under the Creative Commons license and available at http://www.asteriskdocs.org << Read the book online! |
| 05:24.45 | [TK]D-Fender | happy? |
| 05:24.49 | Jameno123 | heh |
| 05:25.02 | Jameno123 | i was talking about drumkilla's statement |
| 05:25.29 | drumkilla | yeah, well that's an amazing book |
| 05:25.33 | Jameno123 | community working w/ asterdocs ;0 |
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| 05:25.39 | drumkilla | but imagine if the whole community worked on it ... |
| 05:26.11 | drumkilla | so many ideas, so little time. |
| 05:26.32 | [av]bani | a wiki doc would be better, since * is such a moving target |
| 05:28.56 | drumkilla | the wiki is full of duplicated, convoluted, unorganized, and incorrect information, unfortunately |
| 05:29.16 | trixter | yeah it is about as stable as your mate at 3am when the pubs close |
| 05:29.38 | Corydon76-home | That's what makes the Wiki so great |
| 05:29.44 | drumkilla | heh |
| 05:29.56 | [av]bani | drumkilla: duplicated, convoluted, unorganized... sounds like * config files |
| 05:30.09 | Corydon76-home | I know; I've had to alter the Wiki several times |
| 05:30.09 | drumkilla | ha, burned! |
| 05:30.30 | Corydon76-home | I need to update the Wiki with my current vim syntax file |
| 05:31.23 | trixter | wikis are generally against my religion |
| 05:32.00 | [av]bani | * needs a good overhaul, i mean really.. type=friend? wtf is that supposed to _mean_ ? |
| 05:32.03 | [av]bani | i know what it does |
| 05:32.27 | drumkilla | [av]bani: we're always looking for more developers. |
| 05:32.40 | [av]bani | you dont want me, really :) |
| 05:32.50 | trixter | drumkilla: you work for digium? |
| 05:33.01 | drumkilla | well ... I'm a full time student, actually |
| 05:33.02 | [av]bani | i'd prolly redo the whole config into lua |
| 05:33.10 | Cresl1n | drumkilla: do you work for digium? |
| 05:33.16 | drumkilla | but my work on Asterisk is now sponsored by Digium, yes |
| 05:33.16 | trixter | I had a job when I was a full time student |
| 05:33.22 | trixter | that fortran code wasnt conna port itself |
| 05:33.36 | drumkilla | Cresl1n: !!!!!!! |
| 05:33.56 | Cresl1n | drumkilla: !!!!! |
| 05:34.18 | [av]bani | * config smacks of feeping creaturism |
| 05:35.31 | [TK]D-Fender | While I can't code much these days I think I'll put up a few WIKI pages on REAL dial-plan samples without the 95% filler / psycho crap in the current one. And another page to consolidate all the Polycom stuff. |
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| 05:37.31 | file[laptop] | hrm, I have an idea |
| 05:37.52 | Corydon76-home | Those things are dangerous |
| 05:38.00 | file[laptop] | I'll need to talk to Matt... but what about a wiki off of the asterisk daily news site for information and all that jazz |
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| 05:38.40 | Corydon76-home | Only if the Wiki is for developers only |
| 05:39.04 | Corydon76-home | We don't want it to compete with the pre-existing Wiki |
| 05:39.07 | file[laptop] | not a public wiki, but one maintained by people who are serious about it |
| 05:39.36 | file[laptop] | anyway - just a thought |
| 05:39.49 | drumkilla | i'd rather have a community written book |
| 05:39.52 | drumkilla | :) |
| 05:39.57 | file[laptop] | writing a book is hard :P and long |
| 05:40.04 | file[laptop] | and don't anybody make a joke out of that |
| 05:40.23 | drumkilla | the information in a book shouldn't be different than a wiki |
| 05:40.27 | drumkilla | except in a book, it's organized |
| 05:40.27 | wunderkin | no problem found :( |
| 05:40.38 | file[laptop] | drumkilla: exxxxxactly |
| 05:40.39 | drumkilla | and would likely be reviewed before it went in. |
| 05:40.56 | file[laptop] | but there's sites that will bring books even... if we reallllly wanted to |
| 05:41.00 | file[laptop] | er bring = print |
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| 05:41.51 | Corydon76-home | hard and long? How could anybody make a joke about that? |
| 05:42.03 | [TK]D-Fender | file : aren't the people who are "serious about it" informed enough to not need a Wiki? |
| 05:42.04 | Corydon76-home | Now if it was full of seaman, it'd be a submarine! |
| 05:43.33 | Cresl1n | yeah, it takes a lot of discipline to write a book |
| 05:43.39 | file[laptop] | yeah |
| 05:43.44 | Cresl1n | most of the time is not appreciated either |
| 05:43.45 | file[laptop] | [TK]D-Fender: an inevitable problem |
| 05:43.46 | tainted_ | does anyone experience SIP channels that don't go away after a hangup? |
| 05:43.58 | Cresl1n | oftentimes a thankless task |
| 05:44.07 | Cresl1n | especially in OSS |
| 05:44.18 | Corydon76-home | Nah, I could write a book... however, for it to be a good book... that's another thing entirely |
| 05:45.51 | drumkilla | heh |
| 05:46.03 | drumkilla | well, OSS in general is usually pretty thankless |
| 05:46.19 | drumkilla | but at the same time, we're lucky that we work with people that all are passionate about what they do |
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| 05:46.31 | file[laptop] | imagine the deployments and companies using Asterisk... |
| 05:46.38 | drumkilla | i try not to |
| 05:46.41 | drumkilla | it messes with my head, heh |
| 05:46.45 | file[laptop] | hehe |
| 05:46.57 | file[laptop] | I will say though, I have had a few people say thank you for stuff I've done |
| 05:47.01 | file[laptop] | which has made me happy, so it's all good |
| 05:47.39 | Corydon76-home | There we go, new vim syntax file: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/vim+syntax+highlighting |
| 05:48.27 | Corydon76-home | You wouldn't believe how much time I've spent on that... |
| 05:48.36 | file[laptop] | a lot? |
| 05:48.52 | Corydon76-home | Oh yeah... |
| 05:49.23 | Corydon76-home | Probably 3, 4 hours |
| 05:49.42 | justinu | drumkilla: that's true. the people I work with are like zombies |
| 05:49.45 | justinu | dead to the world |
| 05:49.53 | ManxPower | I think I am in need of an old unix guy. |
| 05:50.01 | file[laptop] | ManxPower: and a priest? |
| 05:50.07 | Corydon76-home | ManxPower: which system? |
| 05:50.10 | ManxPower | One of those that were around in the days of 110 and 300 baud. |
| 05:50.12 | drumkilla | nice |
| 05:50.37 | Corydon76-home | Have something against 40 baud? |
| 05:50.45 | ManxPower | Corydon-w, my internet service is high latency. I need tricks on doing things like local line editing, local echo, etc. |
| 05:51.16 | [TK]D-Fender | I fortunately bypassed 110 and started right at acoustic coupled 300 baud :) Zippy! (and matches my keyboard repeat rate so no bufferring needed! |
| 05:51.46 | Corydon76-home | local echo is going to cause all your chars to display twice |
| 05:52.07 | ManxPower | Corydon-w, Um, yes, that's why I need an old unix guru. |
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| 05:52.25 | ManxPower | turning off host echo is the solution, but I need as much local stuff done as I can. |
| 05:52.41 | Corydon76-home | Well, you could probably do most of that with stty |
| 05:52.58 | [TK]D-Fender | Ok, I'm fried and ready to pass out now... |
| 05:53.01 | [TK]D-Fender | later all |
| 05:53.05 | ravenpi | G'night... |
| 05:53.08 | file[laptop] | peace! |
| 05:53.09 | rob0 | I was around in the days of 110 and 300 baud, but was not around computers. |
| 05:53.11 | ManxPower | Corydon-w, *nod* But someone with EXPERIENCE would help me get the most out of it. |
| 05:53.38 | file[laptop] | can someone translate baud to years please? |
| 05:53.38 | ManxPower | I started out on Prime and DEC VAXen. |
| 05:53.40 | ravenpi | ManxPower: what are you trying to do? I used to be pretty good back in serial land. |
| 05:53.44 | Corydon76-home | Yeah, but for most of those people, they aren't on IRC |
| 05:53.55 | justinu | prime? neat-o |
| 05:54.02 | tainted_ | can asterisk 1.2 register to a 1.0.7 machine? |
| 05:54.02 | Corydon76-home | talk is good enough, damn it. ;-) |
| 05:54.04 | justinu | always wanted to play with one of those |
| 05:54.13 | tainted_ | i'm having problems getting them to register |
| 05:54.16 | tainted_ | to each other |
| 05:54.21 | rob0 | I'm a newbie in computing compared to most. Started in '92 on DOS. |
| 05:54.30 | ManxPower | ravenpi, Latency to all hosts I SSH into is at least 500ms, frequently 1000ms. I need to do as much line editing and char echoing as I can do locally. |
| 05:54.54 | Corydon76-home | rob0: I started in about 82 at the age of 6... |
| 05:55.04 | ManxPower | I started with computers shortly after most people stopped doing that sort of thing. |
| 05:55.08 | file[laptop] | silly old people |
| 05:55.14 | drumkilla | lol, I have been using linux for a little over 2 years :-p |
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| 05:55.45 | drumkilla | omg! |
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| 05:55.58 | Cresl1n | ahh!!!! |
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| 05:56.02 | drumkilla | wheeeeeeee |
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| 05:56.18 | Cresl1n | it's like being at a bar! |
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| 05:56.25 | Corydon76-home | Auntie Em! Auntie Em! |
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| 05:56.42 | Corydon76-home | There's no place like home; there's no place like home... |
| 05:57.06 | ManxPower | There's no place like ~! |
| 05:57.06 | Cresl1n | it's not working! |
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| 05:57.18 | Corydon76-home | And the image of mattf wearing heels suddenly comes up |
| 05:57.28 | Corydon76-home | and lipstick |
| 05:57.35 | Cresl1n | heh |
| 05:57.38 | Cresl1n | oh no you didn't :-) |
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| 05:58.08 | Corydon76-home | Well, I had to complete the image... ;-) |
| 05:58.14 | ManxPower | I vaguely remembr that VT102 would do local line editing |
| 05:58.45 | justinu | you want ibm 3270 for high latency links |
| 05:59.02 | ManxPower | With host echo and local echo turned on LOL: this is thias its ea sttest |
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| 06:00.17 | stacy_ | i got a question |
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| 06:00.23 | stacy_ | can someone help me? |
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| 06:00.28 | ravenpi | I didn't think VT102 was that smart... but it's been a l-o-n-g time since I had one of those "fer-real" plugged into a VAX. And 3270 would probably only talk to something IBM-ish. |
| 06:00.30 | justinu | no questions, only answers |
| 06:00.30 | rob0 | "You've got questions. We've got blank stares. Radio Shack." |
| 06:00.31 | tainted_ | how do i look into why an IAX2 registration failed? |
| 06:00.40 | stacy_ | haha@rob |
| 06:00.43 | tainted_ | right now iax2 debug just shows REGREJ |
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| 06:00.59 | ManxPower | ravenpi, hence looking for an easy way to go good local line editing. |
| 06:01.08 | file[laptop] | yay here I am |
| 06:01.29 | ManxPower | i.e. I don't want to be able to backspace over my prompt, which is what happens with local echo / no remote echo |
| 06:01.37 | justinu | ravenpi: probably, but you can actually use ISPF over a bad link |
| 06:02.09 | stacy_ | my question is: can i copy my settings etc/asterisk folder and overwrite my normal asterisk folder on a different linux its not the @home version to get my settings from my other asterisk server |
| 06:02.23 | stacy_ | so i dont have to type everything up |
| 06:02.47 | stacy_ | coz im trying to install vicidial |
| 06:03.00 | ManxPower | I'm trying to start using a local editor that suportes editing remote files, so that would deal with editing. |
| 06:03.21 | ManxPower | I suppose I should really just start using rexec over SSH |
| 06:03.23 | rob0 | ManxPower: mc can edit over fish |
| 06:03.39 | Corydon76-home | stacy_: as long as it's the same version, yes |
| 06:03.39 | ManxPower | rob0, is that English? |
| 06:03.48 | Cresl1n | fish rocks! |
| 06:03.53 | Cresl1n | I love fish:// |
| 06:04.00 | rob0 | fish: a shell-based filesystem emulator |
| 06:04.15 | ManxPower | and MC? |
| 06:04.27 | rob0 | GNU Midnight Commander |
| 06:04.33 | ManxPower | Ah. |
| 06:04.44 | ManxPower | I guess I could build a linux machine in my trailer. |
| 06:04.45 | Corydon76-home | Yes, fish:// rocks |
| 06:05.37 | ManxPower | maybe in the trunk of my car, then just ssh into it from my laptop, then MC/fish over the Cell link... |
| 06:05.38 | justinu | be a man, setup uucp |
| 06:05.38 | Corydon76-home | Cresl1n: shall I bring my dresses, heels, and makeup to the next Phreaknic? |
| 06:05.51 | Cresl1n | heh, no! |
| 06:05.53 | Cresl1n | :-) |
| 06:05.54 | Corydon76-home | Cresl1n: see how good of a Dorothy you make? |
| 06:05.57 | Cresl1n | none of that now |
| 06:06.06 | ManxPower | I think my best bet is SSH with public keys from Cygwin |
| 06:06.20 | Corydon76-home | I promise; I won't try to get you drunk... |
| 06:06.23 | file[laptop] | Cresl1n: what version of Colloquy do you use? |
| 06:06.30 | Cresl1n | mmm.... |
| 06:06.35 | ManxPower | Wait! Cresl1n is straight? |
| 06:06.42 | file[laptop] | ManxPower: yes, unfortunately |
| 06:07.02 | ManxPower | file[laptop], Wow, I just assumed he wasn't.... |
| 06:07.13 | rob0 | haha |
| 06:07.15 | file[laptop] | ManxPower: I know |
| 06:07.16 | Cresl1n | file: I don't know. It's not giving me any hints |
| 06:07.29 | file[laptop] | Cresl1n: Colloquy -> About Colloquy |
| 06:07.34 | ravenpi | ManxPower: an interesting link: http://tinyurl.com/bd4up (Linux stuff is fairly far down.) |
| 06:07.39 | file[laptop] | Version <blah> |
| 06:07.40 | ManxPower | He was pretty sleep deprived the only times I've seen him. |
| 06:07.50 | Corydon76-home | ManxPower: 2QT2BSTR8? |
| 06:07.56 | Cresl1n | 2.0 (v2D16) |
| 06:08.03 | file[laptop] | Cresl1n: mmm k |
| 06:08.07 | justinu | anyone ever done a RHEL kickstart network install? |
| 06:08.10 | ManxPower | Corydon-w, no, that's blitzrage |
| 06:08.22 | Corydon76-home | Ah, yes, blitzrage... |
| 06:08.27 | Corydon76-home | Pretty pretty blue eyes |
| 06:08.38 | Cresl1n | ManxPower: hehe, oh yeah, was that in spain? |
| 06:08.53 | ManxPower | Cresl1n, Yes. |
| 06:09.07 | Cresl1n | ManxPower: those were rough time ;-) |
| 06:09.13 | Cresl1n | times too :-) |
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| 06:09.30 | ManxPower | When I first saw you I knew you either had been coding and not slept or were really stoned. |
| 06:09.51 | Cresl1n | ManxPower: I think I didn't go to sleep the night before my talk |
| 06:09.59 | Corydon76-home | mattf doesn't get stoned... or drunk... |
| 06:10.02 | ManxPower | Cresl1n, *nod* |
| 06:10.13 | Corydon76-home | or sex before marriage... |
| 06:10.25 | drumkilla | Cresl1n r0x0rz my s0x0rz |
| 06:10.35 | file[laptop] | drumkilla: all night long? |
| 06:10.43 | Cresl1n | aw, you guys rock :-) |
| 06:10.45 | ManxPower | I took two sleeping pills the night before my talk, went to bed very early, and got up very early to finish up the notes. |
| 06:10.47 | Corydon76-home | and despite all that, he's still an interesting guy... |
| 06:11.03 | file[laptop] | I think Cresl1n is coooooool |
| 06:11.23 | ManxPower | Corydon-w, *shrug* Anyone that can write libpri has a sexy brain. |
| 06:11.30 | Corydon76-home | lol |
| 06:12.35 | ManxPower | I just want to say "DirecTiVo ROCKS!" |
| 06:12.40 | ManxPower | two tuners! |
| 06:12.40 | Corydon76-home | and now that the mutual admiration society has had it's say about mattf, we see how weirded out mattf has gotten... |
| 06:12.47 | Cresl1n | so hrm... |
| 06:13.12 | Cresl1n | if I have a call over an SS7 link, I should probably just pick the destination point code out of the dial sting |
| 06:13.23 | Cresl1n | then use the dialplan for number routing |
| 06:13.26 | file[laptop] | make it random, more fun |
| 06:13.34 | stacy_ | can anybody help me install vicidial with asterisk@home 1.2.1 |
| 06:13.35 | Cresl1n | and for picking destination point codes |
| 06:13.40 | stacy_ | can anybody help me install vicidial with asterisk@home 1.2.1 |
| 06:13.47 | lilo | all done |
| 06:13.56 | Cresl1n | lilo: Thanks!!!! |
| 06:13.57 | ManxPower | Cresl1n, Why not use a dialplan variable before running Dial? |
| 06:13.58 | Corydon76-home | lilo: woohoo! |
| 06:14.00 | file[laptop] | lilo: and now, soup! |
| 06:14.02 | stacy_ | please |
| 06:14.19 | drumkilla | i want some hot chocolate |
| 06:14.23 | ManxPower | ~amp |
| 06:14.24 | jbot | hmm... amp is NOT supported here! people using it should join #amportal |
| 06:14.30 | file[laptop] | drumkilla: well go get yourself some |
| 06:14.32 | stacy_ | thanks |
| 06:14.34 | ManxPower | A@H isn't supported here either. |
| 06:14.45 | rob0 | You expect lilo to serve grub? |
| 06:15.01 | rob0 | (Stupid bootloader joke) |
| 06:15.12 | ManxPower | Is is a DAMN COLD in Huntsville as it is here in Gadsden? |
| 06:15.17 | Cresl1n | stacy_: yeah, sorry, we're not big a@h fans |
| 06:15.23 | Cresl1n | ManxPower: you're in gadsden? |
| 06:15.36 | ManxPower | Cresl1n, Steele, actually, but close enough to Gadsden. |
| 06:15.44 | rob0 | Florence be cold. |
| 06:15.45 | Corydon76-home | Hurricane victim moved... |
| 06:16.01 | Corydon76-home | rob0: Florence, AL ? |
| 06:16.03 | Cresl1n | it's pretty cold |
| 06:16.14 | rob0 | yes |
| 06:16.15 | ManxPower | Cresl1n, I moved to the top of Chandler Mountian (it really should be called a mesa) |
| 06:16.17 | file[laptop] | it's unusually warm here, it has all the meteorologists confused |
| 06:16.26 | Cresl1n | ManxPower: you should come hang out here sometime |
| 06:16.26 | Corydon76-home | rob0: know anybody who works at AWBC? |
| 06:16.36 | ManxPower | Cresl1n, I plan on it. |
| 06:16.37 | Cresl1n | ManxPower: we're usually here on the weekends |
| 06:16.47 | rob0 | awbc ... ? |
| 06:17.06 | Corydon76-home | American Wholesale Book |
| 06:17.22 | Corydon76-home | aka the warehouse division of Booksamillion |
| 06:17.26 | ManxPower | Cresl1n, visiting Digium is on my TODO list. |
| 06:17.32 | rob0 | http://www.booksamillioninc.com/report2000/division_highlights/awbc.html |
| 06:17.56 | Corydon76-home | rob0: I used to work for NetCentral, also a BAMM subsidiary |
| 06:18.13 | rob0 | no I don't but once some of you Nashvillains asked if I could so some occasional work for you |
| 06:18.20 | file[laptop] | I wanna visit Digium tooooooo |
| 06:18.37 | ManxPower | I expect to be driving to (near) New Orleans like every 4-6 weeks, so I'm not all that keen on yet more driving. |
| 06:18.47 | ManxPower | My next trip will be to Lafayette. |
| 06:19.00 | Corydon76-home | file[laptop]: you can come visit me, and I'll drive you down to Digium... |
| 06:19.14 | file[laptop] | Corydon76-home: that's just asking for trouble |
| 06:19.28 | Corydon76-home | file[laptop]: my middle name |
| 06:19.46 | file[laptop] | Cresl1n: tell Brooks I say hi |
| 06:19.53 | ManxPower | "file was so innocent before he spent the weekend with Corydon-w." |
| 06:20.13 | file[laptop] | awww |
| 06:20.21 | file[laptop] | Cresl1n: that was picture perfect |
| 06:20.33 | Corydon76-home | Innocent as Ted Bundy... |
| 06:21.28 | Corydon76-home | Me too. I'm going to bed |
| 06:21.32 | file[laptop] | yes - your bed, not my bed |
| 06:21.36 | rob0 | 'night |
| 06:21.47 | Corydon76-home | awwwww |
| 06:24.49 | ManxPower | Hmm...$212 Birmingham/Lafayette. That's not bad. |
| 06:25.17 | justinu | can you run an NFS client from behind a NAT? |
| 06:25.25 | Cresl1n | thanks file[laptop] |
| 06:28.27 | wunderkin | hey Cresl1n, can you describe to me what the debouncetime does? mark asked me to set that.. my carrier was asking about it too.. |
| 06:31.01 | wunderkin | i've had a problem with a couple pris going into red alarm for 5 sec and coming back up, very intermittant.. they say they never see anything happen on their side, so im hoping maybe this is what the problem is... they checked my niu and they are seeing unavailables or errors or something coming from my side |
| 06:31.59 | wunderkin | what im wondering is what is causing it to freak out, and if i set the debouncetime=100 like mark asked.. what will happen from now on.. if it has this freak attack.. am i going to loose calls? |
| 06:32.39 | wunderkin | does it just think it lost something and decides no and resets itself? this gives it more time to recover itself? sorta maybe? |
| 06:38.28 | justinu | debounce is some kind of t1 electrical thing |
| 06:38.31 | justinu | layer 1 |
| 06:38.53 | justinu | i've never worked on a t1 board that let you set things like debounce timing |
| 06:39.47 | ManxPower | And here I thought debounce was an analog thing to help with noisy hangups |
| 06:40.07 | justinu | yeah, it could be applied there too |
| 06:40.37 | justinu | a debounce is a basic electronic circuit that filters out the voltage fluctuations when a switch opens or closes |
| 06:40.55 | justinu | it's not an atomic operation, so a sensitive device sees many "events" when a switch changes states |
| 06:41.11 | justinu | so you run it thru a debounce filter to stop that from happening |
| 06:41.18 | wunderkin | hmm.. |
| 06:47.32 | wunderkin | k.. mark asked me to set that a few weeks ago but i guess i forgot about it :/ broadwing did testing to the niu and to * and didn't see any errors, 2 mins of 0s, 5 min of 1s, 40 min of quazi to each.. |
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| 07:08.04 | wasim | i guess that makes up for the tendulkar run out ... |
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| 07:20.42 | justinu | wunderkin: they should leave the test up for at least 24 hours since it's an intermittant problem |
| 07:22.26 | wunderkin | wow.. ya.. shrug.. i think this may fix it but dunno |
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| 07:35.05 | jerlique | how do i set the time frame that asterisk registers itself to its SIP peers |
| 07:36.09 | drumkilla | registertimeout=N |
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| 07:36.19 | drumkilla | where 'N' is the number of seconds between retries ... |
| 07:36.38 | drumkilla | if that is what you were asking :) |
| 07:36.39 | justinu | what happens if N is -1 |
| 07:38.11 | wasim | you loose a hdd |
| 07:38.31 | drumkilla | it will yell at you for being an invalid value |
| 07:38.34 | wasim | the most expensive one if an array :) |
| 07:39.07 | drumkilla | actually, it won't, it will just set it to the default value |
| 07:39.11 | wasim | somehow drives know which contains the most valuable data |
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| 07:45.13 | jerlique | thanks - I had this set to 120s, but I keep getting "SIP/2.0 423 Interval Too Brief" |
| 07:45.35 | jerlique | and still the same set at 360s.... |
| 07:45.44 | Math` | try 3600 |
| 07:46.18 | Math` | I tried some WellTech ATA-S today, they default re-registration to 60 seconds, and the whole ata reboots instead of simply re-registring, dropping any active call |
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| 07:47.19 | tainted_ | anyone know if broadvoice supports rfc2833? |
| 07:48.23 | tainted_ | or if it's possible to change codecs midcall |
| 07:52.03 | justinu | it's possible, i believe, but I don't think many devices do it |
| 07:52.43 | tainted_ | hmm |
| 07:52.57 | tainted_ | i've got some providers that use g729 and broadvoice uses ulaw |
| 07:53.17 | tainted_ | and when the call is routed through bv, it complains about DTMF |
| 07:56.49 | Math` | try inband for ulaw |
| 07:57.34 | Jameno123 | tainted "midcall" or like, when passing it onto another server? |
| 07:58.39 | Jameno123 | you can transcode the call, yes "inbound = g729, out=ulaw", but not sure about changing it mid-call like, after the call is already established. |
| 07:59.39 | tainted_ | Jameno123 it would be great to pass the call onto another server for transcoding |
| 07:59.46 | tainted_ | but the incoming leg is g729 |
| 08:00.11 | tainted_ | so i don't know how to properly handle dtmf so it's recognized through the ulaw leg |
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| 08:05.30 | justinu | g729 can't carry dtmf inband reliably, so use rfc2833 |
| 08:06.39 | dudes | I set my dtmf to auto /w g729 |
| 08:06.42 | dudes | that seems to work good |
| 08:08.56 | Math` | auto tries to guess it |
| 08:09.04 | Math` | you can either use rfc2833 or sip info |
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| 08:45.15 | cyber | guys what is a class5 softphone |
| 08:46.05 | cyber | :( |
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| 08:50.47 | mazimp | hello, can anybody help me with this? |
| 08:50.47 | mazimp | With *1.2.1 on Debian Sarge the entire System freezes, when voicemail tries to send an emai notification |
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| 08:51.06 | wasim | lol, last 10 overs, 106 runs ... in a test match :) go afridi |
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| 08:54.19 | trixter | mazimp: what exactly is being executed? maybe that is the rpoblem... the entire system shouldnt freeze from a userspace app which makes that interesting. I have used both sarge and etch with no problems |
| 08:55.11 | nextime | expecially from a userspace app that run as user != from root |
| 08:55.57 | trixter | root by default doesnt have as much power as the kernel, so even root based apps shouldnt be able to lock the system it generally is something in the kernel that does that |
| 08:56.12 | trixter | although some of those calls lower their protection when called from root not all of them do |
| 08:56.34 | mazimp | trixter: unfotunately asterisk runs as root cause it has problems creating its .pid file otherwise, the problem occurs, just after a voicmail is recorded and only if I want to have an email notification |
| 08:57.10 | trixter | yeah I edited stuff so that it does /var/run/asterisk and tosses everything in there (pid and ctl file) and that is owned by the asterisk user |
| 08:57.11 | trixter | :) |
| 08:57.26 | nextime | mazimp : run asterisk as user asterisk, you can make /var/run/asterisk, chown asterisk /var/run/asterisk, and setup the pidfile to be create on /var/run/asterisk |
| 08:57.47 | trixter | make sure you chown -R asterisk /dev/zap or whatever |
| 08:58.00 | mazimp | nexttime: that didn't help for me, * still complains about the pid file |
| 08:58.05 | trixter | that is the other problem becuase people normally dont properly configure their systems rather than make that occur its run as root to make it easy |
| 08:58.18 | trixter | did you edit asterisk.conf to look in the new place? |
| 08:58.52 | trixter | keep in mind that the default is for /var/run which is owned by root non-sticky which means that you cant create a new one without being root, and if you dont own the old one you cant delete it |
| 08:59.19 | trixter | that may not fix your problem, I am thinking it might be something else.. |
| 08:59.43 | mazimp | trixter: my asterisk.conf says: astrundir => /var/run/asterisk |
| 08:59.53 | nextime | mazzimp: anyway, this isn't the solution for your problem, normally the kernel can't freeze for asterisk, root or normal user. |
| 09:00.30 | nextime | we are in two to say the same thing, ok, i come back to my work on console. |
| 09:03.31 | robin | meep? |
| 09:04.36 | mazimp | trixter: asterisk still wants to create its file under /var/run/asterisk.pid |
| 09:06.42 | nextime | mazimp : try to look in /etc/init.d/asterisk |
| 09:07.28 | mazimp | nextime: the script calls: start-stop-daemon --start --pidfile "$PIDFILE" --exec $DAEMON -- $PARAMS |
| 09:07.45 | mazimp | nextime: $PIDFILE is set to the new dir |
| 09:07.50 | nextime | mazimp : so, set the PIDFILE var to /var/run/asterisk/asterisk.pid |
| 09:09.35 | nextime | uhmm |
| 09:09.37 | nextime | wait |
| 09:09.54 | nextime | with this line start-stop-daemon run asterisk as root |
| 09:10.24 | mazimp | next: ok, so I shouldn't use it at all? |
| 09:10.49 | nextime | wait, i chek my asterisk init file |
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| 09:12.31 | nextime | mazimp : asterisk when you do a /etc/init.d/asterisk start run as root or asterisk? |
| 09:13.12 | RoyK | http://blueballfixed.ytmnd.com/ |
| 09:14.41 | mazimp | nextime: at the moment, I'm calling it as root |
| 09:14.53 | mazimp | nextime: so sould I do a sudo? |
| 09:15.46 | nextime | mazimp : no, when the system boot it call /etc/init.d/asterisk as root, asterisk as to be run as unprivileged user by start-stop-daemon |
| 09:16.06 | wasim | 350 in 54 overs :) |
| 09:16.09 | nextime | mazimp : so, add a --chuid asterisk to the start-stop-daemon line |
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| 09:17.59 | mazimp | nextime: didn't help either - output: |
| 09:18.04 | mazimp | nextime /etc/init.d/asterisk start |
| 09:18.04 | mazimp | Starting Asterisk PBX: Unable to set high priority |
| 09:18.04 | mazimp | Unable to open pid file '/var/run/asterisk.pid': Permission denied |
| 09:18.53 | nextime | mazimp : mumble, are you sure that PIDFILE var is set to the right path? |
| 09:19.09 | trixter | it takes root to change the priority |
| 09:19.14 | mazimp | nextime: yes, absolutely, did a echo $PIDFILE just before the call |
| 09:20.13 | trixter | its my understanding that start-stop-daemon is seperate from asterisk in terms of creating the pid file |
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| 09:21.39 | mazimp | trixter: so it sould create the pid in /var/run/asterisk/asterisk.pid if I provide this option, right? but it doesn't. |
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| 09:22.10 | nextime | mazimp : if you try to run asterisk from shell directly without the init script, with a simple su -c "asterisk -nc" asterisk, it work? |
| 09:23.22 | nextime | maybe your init script run safe_asterisk and not asterisk directly, so, pid file and user is set on the safe_asterisk script and not in the init file |
| 09:24.05 | mazimp | nextime: starting on command line doesn't work either, return status=1 no output |
| 09:24.11 | nextime | ( i use a self-made debian init script, not the one that come with precompiled asterisk debian package ) |
| 09:24.23 | mazimp | nextime: me too |
| 09:25.35 | nextime | mazimp : ok, come back to start. are you using zap devices? |
| 09:25.38 | mazimp | nextime: but it really runs /usr/sbin/asterisk |
| 09:26.13 | mazimp | nextime: compiled asterisk with bristuff and using a hfc and a cpi card |
| 09:26.19 | mazimp | cpi = capi |
| 09:26.32 | nextime | ok, are the devices owned by asterisk? |
| 09:27.20 | mazimp | nextime: capi: yes, hfc: what dev-file should I search for? |
| 09:28.06 | nextime | mazimp : i can't remember, i don't have any hfc, isn't /dev/zap/* ? |
| 09:28.30 | robin | OK, so ... for faxreceive, I think I have that wiorking, I just need the fax.php agi script .. any ideas where it is found? |
| 09:29.16 | nextime | mazimp : you can try with su -c "asterisk -nvvvc" asterisk, you shuld look at the output where exactly fail to start |
| 09:29.32 | mazimp | nextime: right - these were owned by root, so I'll change the group to dialout where asterisk is member, right? |
| 09:30.07 | mazimp | nextime: su -c "asterisk -nvvvc" asterisk didn't produce any output |
| 09:30.52 | nextime | mazimp : try su -c "/usr/sbin/asterisk -nvvvc" asterisk |
| 09:31.14 | mazimp | nextime: same problem |
| 09:32.16 | nextime | no output at all? |
| 09:32.48 | mazimp | nextime: no output, just returncode 1 |
| 09:33.26 | nextime | mazimp : have you /bin/false as the asterisk user system shell? |
| 09:34.25 | nextime | if yes, try to change it to /bin/bash ( only for test ) |
| 09:35.00 | mazimp | nextime: just give me a hint what file to edit (using LDAP for the ordinary users) |
| 09:36.03 | nextime | mazimp : if asterisk user is on ldap you must change it on ldap, if the * user is in /etc/passwd you must change it on /etc/passwd |
| 09:36.52 | mazimp | nextime: ok - changed it in /etc/passwd |
| 09:37.12 | nextime | mazimp : ok, now su -c "/usr/sbin/asterisk -nvvvc" asterisk |
| 09:37.19 | mazimp | nextime: now it start with warnings on the zap-module, just checking the permissions |
| 09:37.58 | nextime | mazimp : ok, but it start and run correctly? |
| 09:38.32 | mazimp | nextime: fails on opening /dev/zap/channel, but this file is readable by dialout group |
| 09:38.47 | nextime | mazimp : chown -R asterisk.asterisk /dev/zap/ |
| 09:39.02 | nextime | it must be readable and writable by asterisk |
| 09:39.58 | mazimp | nextime: ok - asterisk is starting |
| 09:40.20 | nextime | mazimp : good, so, now you must check if the pid file is in the right path |
| 09:40.32 | nextime | if yes, the problem is on the init script |
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| 09:42.13 | mazimp | nextime: there's no pid in both dir's - is that possible? |
| 09:42.41 | nextime | mazimp : if you are check the path where asterisk is running it sound impossible |
| 09:42.55 | nextime | s/where/while |
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| 09:43.48 | robin | OK, so ... for faxreceive, I think I have that wiorking, I just need the fax.php agi script .. any ideas where it is found? |
| 09:44.34 | mazimp | nextime: I searched for /var/run/asterisk.pid and for /var/run/asterisk/asterisk.pid - nothing |
| 09:45.04 | Hali_303 | Hi! I'm a student developing linux hardwares. What I would like to ask from you, is that would you consider buying the following equipment for $250? It is basically a 4-port FXS (5REN on each port, that means on each port you can connect 5 analog phones, and they will ring together), it has a 5th port a GSM gateway (you can put you own SIM card in it), and you can connect this device to the PC using an USB connection (not ethernet, so the d |
| 09:45.09 | nextime | mazimp : mumble, can i see your /etc/asterisk/asterisk.conf ? ( in query, don't flood on channel ) |
| 09:45.37 | Hali_303 | (the device is obviously not ready yet, I'm just interested if it gives good price/value for you) |
| 09:45.50 | mazimp | nextime: will send it in a personal message, ok? |
| 09:46.08 | nextime | mazimp : yes, query == private message :) |
| 09:46.50 | nextime | mazimp : ok it seem to be right. so, check the permission for /var/run/asterisk, is owned by asterisk? |
| 09:48.11 | mazimp | nextime: yes |
| 09:48.12 | nextime | Hali_303 : it seem to be expansive to me, but i think that for a end user market is a reasonable price |
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| 09:48.43 | nextime | mazimp : are you check the location of pidfile while asterisk is running? |
| 09:48.56 | mazimp | nextime: yes |
| 09:49.11 | nextime | so, it *must* be in /var/run/asterisk :| |
| 09:49.26 | Hali_303 | nextime: according to voip-supply, the cheapest 4 port FXS is $320, however that has ethernet, and is a stand alone device |
| 09:50.12 | mazimp | nextime: /var/run/asterisk/ is empty there is just an /var/run/asterisk.ctl owned by root |
| 09:50.13 | Hali_303 | nextime: but for half the price maybe ppl are interested in a non-standalone device.. |
| 09:52.57 | nextime | mazimp : is asterisk running as asterisk user? |
| 09:53.42 | nextime | Hali_303 : your device is thinked to wich market? b2b or end user? |
| 09:54.25 | mazimp | nextime: yes |
| 09:55.17 | nextime | Hali_303 : anyway, i'm in EU not in US, so, maybe prices are different ( in EU we use many chinese hw that is very cheap ) |
| 09:55.40 | nextime | mazimp : it's very strange... |
| 09:56.19 | nextime | mazimp : look on query |
| 09:57.24 | Hali_303 | nextime: basically for businesses, who need to have a mini call center running in minutes.. they just plug in the device, put the GSM SIM into it and you can have four normal telephones ready to be called by clients |
| 09:58.06 | Hali_303 | and you are also reachable over the internet using SIP |
| 09:58.51 | nextime | Hali_303 : oh, sorry for my mistake, i was thinking about fxs ports but not about gsm sim slot, so, 4 fxs + a gsm sim slot for 250 USD is a reasonable price |
| 09:59.13 | Hali_303 | do you think that there is need for such a concept? |
| 09:59.51 | nextime | Hali_303 : not for me personally, but i think that is a device that can have market, yes |
| 10:00.07 | nextime | for small office expecially |
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| 10:03.34 | Hali_303 | yes, that would be the market mainly ;) and if the company grows, you just plug in another of this device, and you have an additional GSM and more lines. the reason I think USB is a better choice than ethernet is that you need a PC running anyways, since it holds voice mail, records conversations and this would be pretty expensive to do in a stand alone device without a hard disk |
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| 10:06.37 | nextime | Hali_303 : ethernet is more scalable that usb, but this isn't a issue on a small office tha can be 10/15 phones, not 150 or so on, so, a usb device is enought |
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| 10:14.33 | Hali_303 | yes, true. USB2 itself would be enough for 150 lines, however the PC would not be able to transcode such an ammount of data, I guess they are using DSP and FPGA chips for that in high density FXS devices, but anyways 150 lines is hardcore category ;) |
| 10:14.49 | trixter | I gotta say that voip hacks by oreilly (released dec 2005) is really not that good, and had I paid I would be upset that I wasted money, since it was free I still somehow feel taken by it, but ... |
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| 10:21.19 | inv_Arp | trixter: its free? |
| 10:22.43 | trixter | they sent it to me free |
| 10:22.46 | trixter | normally its not |
| 10:22.54 | trixter | I dont really recommend it though |
| 10:22.59 | inv_Arp | oh ok |
| 10:23.51 | Hali_303 | you can read a few chapters on their homepage |
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| 10:24.38 | trixter | if you have 2 months or more asterisk experience the asterisk specific stuff (of which there isnt that much) wont be of value, if you have at least 5 months general voip experience there wont be anything in there for you, aside from a couple sections on phone lines and that is so basic that it takes 1 hour to learn everything covered |
| 10:24.44 | trixter | in short if you know nothing, get the book, it ight give you ideas if you already know a little its a waste |
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| 10:31.40 | Hali_303 | have to go |
| 10:31.54 | Hali_303 | nextime: thx for the infos! |
| 10:31.57 | Hali_303 | bye |
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| 10:43.20 | robin | OK, agi debugging is doing my head in .. I have verbosity at 6, am printing to STDERR, but nothing is showing on the console |
| 10:47.36 | telmich | good morning |
| 10:47.55 | robin | bah. running the agi from the commans line, it works, and writes to a log file, its chmod 755, and asterisk claims to be running it as show in agi debug on theconsole, but .. its not. |
| 10:48.07 | telmich | thanks for the good documentation guys, I just needed 30 minutes to get asterisk running from source under a rsbac-linux system |
| 10:48.29 | telmich | could someone recommened a document about linking asterisk servers together to make a bigger network? |
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| 12:00.50 | trixter | http://www.i4u.com/article4921.html Free VOIPUSB Phone |
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| 12:03.16 | xheliox | I'm still waiting on my Vonage rebate. |
| 12:03.19 | xheliox | From over a year ago. |
| 12:04.23 | xheliox | good morning/afternoon/evening #asterisk : |
| 12:04.27 | xheliox | :) |
| 12:04.49 | trixter | arent the terms on that 60 days with vonage before refund? |
| 12:04.54 | trixter | aka a 'float' |
| 12:05.53 | xheliox | I was with them for 6 months. |
| 12:06.08 | xheliox | I canceled because I never got my $89 rebate they said I'd get within 90 days. |
| 12:06.23 | xheliox | I was even sick enough to subscribe to their "soft phone" service. *shakes head* |
| 12:06.34 | xheliox | Thank god for Teliax. |
| 12:09.40 | robin | I need to fond a good sip/iax termination for .ch, or possibly france |
| 12:14.22 | trixter | finera family of providers typically give you access to those, cant beat the price |
| 12:14.55 | trixter | www.sipdiscount.com and www.voipstunt.com |
| 12:15.21 | trixter | they also do voipbuster.com 1899.co.uk and a bunch of other companies, they have quite a few customers so its not anything new per se, although I think voipstunt.com is their newest |
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| 12:55.24 | hackeron | Seems if I want to use G.729 in asterisk, I have to re-record all the sounds? -- I just see could not transcode between GSM and G.729 - is there a way around it? |
| 12:57.08 | xheliox | I suspect that's because you do not have any g729a licenses installed. |
| 12:57.27 | xheliox | g729a with Asterisk only works without licenses if you use pass thru, I believe. |
| 12:58.23 | hackeron | xheliox: pass thru? |
| 12:59.08 | xheliox | SIP Device -> Asterisk -> SIP Device, for example. |
| 12:59.44 | hackeron | xheliox: say I want to use G729 for Asterisk -> PSTN and G.711 (ulaw) for Local SIP phones -> Asterisk? |
| 13:00.43 | xheliox | THen you'd need g729a licenses. |
| 13:00.49 | xheliox | They're $10 per channel, you can get them from digium.com |
| 13:01.30 | hackeron | xheliox: ah, ok, and then it will transcode? -- also, will AMD64 3500+ have enough power to transcode 25 channels? |
| 13:02.09 | hackeron | and do you think its worth it to replace gsm? |
| 13:02.14 | xheliox | Yes. And I'm not certain about the specs, but you _should_ be okay. |
| 13:03.02 | xheliox | Well, I guess there's no harm in having each sound file in your native format, I presume that would prevent some need to transcode. Though I'm by no means the expert around here. |
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| 13:07.17 | Kernel_core | hi all |
| 13:07.28 | Kernel_core | anobody familiar with astbill ? |
| 13:08.35 | trixter | http://www.nording.pp.ru/voip/asterisk/G729/ |
| 13:09.27 | trixter | that may be the wrong url, its starting to look like it |
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| 13:12.09 | trixter | http://kvin.lv/pub/Linux/Asterisk/ that is the one I meant |
| 13:14.47 | xheliox | trixter: What are those? |
| 13:15.43 | trixter | the compiled patched versions of the iuntel IPP stuff for g729 and g723 codecs |
| 13:15.50 | trixter | what else do they look like? |
| 13:17.40 | xheliox | what's the patch for? |
| 13:18.32 | trixter | to make them asterisk compatible |
| 13:19.05 | xheliox | how are they different than the ones on digium's ftp site? |
| 13:21.46 | trixter | biggest difference is they dont look for a license |
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| 13:22.39 | tzafrir_home | well, but running them is still illegal, isn't it? |
| 13:22.50 | trixter | depends |
| 13:23.24 | trixter | if you are running them in your own home under the terms for which the intel code was originally given out (ie non commercial personal use etc) then they are legal even in the US |
| 13:23.25 | tzafrir_home | regardless of the patent issue: what about the intel code? |
| 13:23.26 | Kernel_core | tzafrir_home: where is your location ? |
| 13:23.37 | tzafrir_home | Israel |
| 13:23.45 | trixter | the intel code is free for the download if you agree to use it for personal non commerical purposes |
| 13:24.05 | tzafrir_home | non-commercial is worthless for a PBX |
| 13:24.11 | trixter | as such if you follow that license you wouldnt be infringing upon the codec code since that is where the real work of the codec came from |
| 13:24.16 | trixter | that depends |
| 13:24.23 | robin | ooh, now there is a shite website .. |
| 13:24.31 | robin | or should that be webshite |
| 13:24.36 | robin | voipgate.com |
| 13:24.38 | tzafrir_home | non-commercvial means that it may be useful for internal testing, but nothing more |
| 13:24.54 | trixter | and it would only be a license issue both for the intel stuff (which wouldnt have a per seat cost and would be cheaper in larger installations -- although read the lciense) and the itu fee for 729 would be on top of that |
| 13:25.02 | robin | I dont suppose anyone here works for voipgate? |
| 13:25.15 | trixter | tzafrir_home: and development pre-sales |
| 13:25.28 | trixter | that is also allowed and infact the largest intent of the intel code |
| 13:25.55 | tzafrir_home | not to mention that their build system is yucky |
| 13:26.19 | tzafrir_home | you have to use intel's build system to build those |
| 13:26.31 | trixter | I have heard rumors that the codec licensing fee is closer to $2 but those are unconfirmed, and now the rules have changed since I heard that so I dont know.. which means that if you were to pay off intel ($150 for redistribution in a commercial environment - unlimited copies iirc) and the $2/seat license you couldsell em for $3 and still turn a profit |
| 13:27.12 | trixter | the gpl doesnt technically apply to the patch file becuase it relies 100% on the intel code and according to the FSF you cant have a dependancy on commercial non gpl compatible code like that (although that is a questionable issue given the wording of the gpl) |
| 13:27.43 | trixter | I guess I should say its against the FSF interpretation and their faq but not the actual wording of the gpl ... |
| 13:28.45 | trixter | tzafrir_home: yeah well if someone wanted to they could use that commercially, that was the point I was getting at, and not every country honors the type of patent that g729 is patented under, because they allow you to patent your implementation but not a general concept of it |
| 13:29.01 | robin | sigh. I REALLY wish someone from voipgate.com was on this channel ... |
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| 13:29.18 | robin | then I could direct my abuse at them :( |
| 13:29.22 | trixter | so it varies as to whether or not its legal to use and all that.. I also dont know the terms of the intel contract other than its free for some uses paid for others which largely revolve around redistribution for compensation |
| 13:30.48 | tzafrir_home | in short, I try to avoid g729 and g723 if I can |
| 13:32.17 | trixter | heh |
| 13:32.39 | trixter | I am more of a choice guy I try to give people choices :) |
| 13:33.05 | robin | so ... would anyone care to suggest a good sip->pstn service in .eu? |
| 13:33.22 | robin | I only need outgoing ... |
| 13:35.05 | xheliox | So it's fair to say that Digium makes a healthy profit off of g729a licenses? |
| 13:35.20 | trixter | www.voipstunt.com |
| 13:35.25 | trixter | I dont know how healthy it is |
| 13:35.42 | xheliox | Well, let's say 500% is healthy :P |
| 13:35.50 | tzafrir_home | xheliox: would you rather have only the alternative? |
| 13:35.52 | trixter | to make *any* profit they have to sell more licenses than their costs to write the codecs, manage the license servers, pay their fees to whomever, etc |
| 13:36.01 | trixter | but even if they sell one they can lose money |
| 13:36.10 | trixter | they have to sell a certain quantity before they see any profit |
| 13:36.24 | xheliox | fair enough. |
| 13:36.58 | xheliox | and the only reason I ask, if because I've always felt that buying g729a licenses was a good way of supporting Digium. |
| 13:37.06 | xheliox | And from what I gather from what's been said this morning, that's true? |
| 13:37.10 | trixter | now if they sell 1M licenses a year and sustain that sales, then yes it would be a healthy profit, however I dont see them coming close and becuase its not an annual license afaik any sales they get this year they w ont duplicate next year |
| 13:37.39 | trixter | it can help however working as an unpaid developer would support them too |
| 13:37.54 | trixter | because code that is submitted and disclaimed they sell in their commercial version of asterisk (ABE or asterisk buysiness edition) |
| 13:38.16 | xheliox | Yeah, I'm not doing that for two reasons, and that's one of them. ;) |
| 13:38.37 | xheliox | The other reason is far more dire, I can't code for shit. |
| 13:38.41 | trixter | I somehow think that the coding resources that are provided for free (and support services such as bug marshalls, etc) would end up saving them a whole lot more money than buying a couple of licenses for g729 |
| 13:39.00 | trixter | you dont have to be a coder to work for them for free |
| 13:39.18 | trixter | they have some QA/bug related jobs that dont involve coding |
| 13:39.40 | trixter | so you can get a job that pays nothing, not even official employee status and support them that way if you want |
| 13:39.58 | xheliox | super. :P |
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| 13:40.06 | trixter | if you were to work for them as a tech writer for free that would save them a ton because those guys often get like $90/hr |
| 13:40.16 | xheliox | I'll just be a loyal customer and guy their not so great hardware, and codecs.. thanks though. |
| 13:40.22 | xheliox | buy* |
| 13:41.01 | trixter | heh |
| 13:41.14 | xheliox | And when I say loyal.. |
| 13:41.20 | xheliox | I mean loyal until something better comes around. ;) |
| 13:41.41 | xheliox | Which I'm not holding my breath on. |
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| 13:43.52 | trixter | therei s stuff on the horizon, right now asterisk, opbx, and anything that came from those are working to be gpl compliant (technically no one has the right to distribute or use asterisk/opbx) |
| 13:44.25 | trixter | but there are other projects as well, cisco backs vovida.org (I havent looked at vocal at all) gnu has bayonne, and there are a few others |
| 13:44.50 | trixter | I dont know if any are better or worse more or less functional although I do plan on looking at them at some point to see |
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| 13:45.21 | xheliox | Sure, but I still see it being years before anything is truly viable in the sense that Asterisk is. Or at least that's my amateur opinion. |
| 13:45.35 | xheliox | Maybe openpbx. |
| 13:45.59 | trixter | maybe sofa it all depends |
| 13:46.18 | trixter | and it doesnt matter if it supports X features so long as it supports the features you want in the way you want them |
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| 14:04.54 | trixter | up in washington state they are up on their 37th day of rain |
| 14:05.03 | trixter | that is almost moah/gilgamesh quantity |
| 14:05.08 | trixter | er noah |
| 14:05.57 | telmich | is there some effort to build a internet connected voip community vith asterisk? |
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| 14:07.35 | RoyK | trixter: ouch. sounds sad |
| 14:11.00 | srt | is there a way to pass a newline char to an app from the dialplan? |
| 14:13.37 | trixter | telmich: largely there are little groups here and there and some large groups that are more disconnected than connected.. afaik there are no direct connections to everyone everywhere guessi t all depends on how you define 'community'; |
| 14:14.17 | trixter | srt: maybe, let me try something I think will work, although the question becomes which app and why? becuase not all apps would appreciate a newline |
| 14:15.06 | srt | trixter: its for app_userevent to handle multiple attributes |
| 14:15.41 | srt | app_userevent doesnt do any real parsing of the args and just copies the stuff to the manager event |
| 14:15.50 | trixter | it seems that the parser doesnt pass \n like it should however if you do pass a \n and use that string within a printf or similar it will work |
| 14:15.59 | telmich | trixter: hrm, ok |
| 14:16.03 | srt | maybe the right solution would be to fix app_userevent but passing a nl char would be a quick workaround |
| 14:16.30 | trixter | well you can send a \n to it, a sprintf on the string into a new string would translate those |
| 14:17.07 | srt | how do i do that? if i pass \n i receive n and if i pass \\n i receive \n (literally) |
| 14:17.58 | trixter | yes and if a string contains \n in it when passed to sprintf it will translate it |
| 14:18.24 | trixter | however I am unsure exactly where you expect this to occur, is it within asterisk or within your app? |
| 14:18.31 | srt | seems like the config parser eats the \ if its not followed by a known quote char like [ ] $ " \ . |
| 14:19.10 | RoyK | IKEA on a saturday inherits a stress factor that exceeds most other things in life |
| 14:19.23 | srt | from the dialplan |
| 14:19.26 | srt | exten => 8765,n,UserEvent(NewCall|property1: ${EXTEN}\npropery2: ${CALLERID}) |
| 14:20.12 | backblue | anyone with dundi or realtime & nat? |
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| 14:20.44 | trixter | you have to escape the \ to make it pass ie \\ |
| 14:21.57 | telmich | RoyK: interesting, I was today morning thinking whether I should go there |
| 14:22.08 | srt | \n results in property1: 8765npropery2: "xxx" <1310> |
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| 14:22.15 | srt | and \\n results in property1: 8765\npropery2: "xxx" <1310> |
| 14:22.29 | trixter | right the string with the \n needs to be parsed as described above |
| 14:22.41 | trixter | I dont understand exactly where you want it to be parsed though, you never answered that |
| 14:22.48 | RoyK | telmich: my gf and another friend made me go there |
| 14:22.52 | RoyK | THEY MADE ME DO IT |
| 14:23.12 | telmich | RoyK: HRHR |
| 14:23.19 | trixter | if you want it within app_userevent you are going to have to add that code and potentially make your system incompatible with others, if you want it within your manager tool then its easier |
| 14:23.32 | RoyK | http://www.themorningnews.org/archives/how_to/the_nonexpert_ikea.php |
| 14:23.36 | telmich | whoever wrote documentation in voip-info.org, the information there is pretty good |
| 14:23.51 | srt | trixter: i would like to have in app_userevent |
| 14:23.54 | RoyK | telmich: lots of people write there. it's a wiki |
| 14:24.01 | srt | but that would require a patch for asterisk |
| 14:24.09 | trixter | its potentially not a good idea to be able to insert newlines into the manager output since data is seperated by newlines and that can cause breakage depending on where you getthe data from |
| 14:24.13 | srt | if i dont manage to pass the newline to app_userevent |
| 14:24.22 | telmich | RoyK: I know, but there are also wikis with useless information |
| 14:24.30 | RoyK | of course |
| 14:24.39 | RoyK | the internet is full of bulllshit |
| 14:24.42 | RoyK | and useful info |
| 14:24.43 | telmich | btw, is it possible to send the clients a list of registrated iax2 users? |
| 14:24.46 | srt | i want that the void *data buffer passed to userevent_exec contains a newline char |
| 14:24.53 | srt | and not a "\n" string |
| 14:24.56 | RoyK | voip-info also has it's BS pages |
| 14:25.02 | srt | um a "\\n" string |
| 14:25.18 | srt | i only get either "n" or "\\n" there |
| 14:25.19 | trixter | srt: do you know how sprintf works? I have explained how to do that in a very easy fashion |
| 14:25.31 | RoyK | perl -e 's/\\n/\n/gm' |
| 14:25.33 | RoyK | :P |
| 14:25.48 | srt | yes i know how to fix it easily |
| 14:26.08 | srt | but my question is: is it possible without a modification of asterisk source code? |
| 14:26.26 | RoyK | is there a problem modifying asterisk source code? |
| 14:26.33 | RoyK | it shouldn't be that hard to add a \n |
| 14:26.46 | srt | define problem ;) |
| 14:27.00 | RoyK | ~wtf problem |
| 14:27.09 | srt | its not a problem but its a hassle to get someone to include in the official trunk |
| 14:27.19 | srt | plus its not in 1.2 then ;) |
| 14:27.39 | RoyK | then have your own tree/trunk/branch |
| 14:27.56 | RoyK | most people seriously using asterisk do that |
| 14:28.05 | RoyK | since it takes for ever to get things into the trunk or 1.2 |
| 14:28.24 | srt | yes would be fine for me but not for others using my framework |
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| 14:29.07 | RoyK | wtf? a fake viking? |
| 14:30.08 | srt | i just thought there might be an easy way to put a newline into the dialplan... |
| 14:30.44 | srt | i could set an environment variable to a newline and use ${ENV(NEWLINE)} ;) |
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| 14:32.09 | trixter | srt but my question is: is it possible without a modification of asterisk source code? |
| 14:32.13 | trixter | yes I told you how earlier |
| 14:32.33 | srt | trixter: that doesnt work. try it if you dont mind. |
| 14:32.46 | trixter | where is it needed to be processed? what tool is reading that data that needs the 2 lines? |
| 14:33.08 | trixter | ok its clear now that you really want to refuse to read anything I have said so far, so I am done with this |
| 14:33.13 | trixter | scroll up in you want the answer |
| 14:33.54 | trixter | ~lart royk |
| 14:34.03 | RoyK | ~lart trixter |
| 14:34.03 | tengulre | HI,ALL!! |
| 14:34.14 | trixter | hi |
| 14:34.21 | svenna_ | hi all |
| 14:34.33 | svenna_ | i finaly got it all to work |
| 14:34.41 | srt | trixter: i need it in the output on the manager api |
| 14:34.50 | srt | i dont care where its done in asterisk |
| 14:35.12 | srt | its just that the config or dialplan parser or whatever eats the \ |
| 14:35.28 | srt | so i either get "n" or "\\n" but never "\n" as i said above. |
| 14:36.03 | trixter | why do you need it in the output of the manager api? why not in what reads from the manager api as I said earlier |
| 14:36.21 | trixter | and that way your custom thing exists only in your manager otol not in asterisk itself |
| 14:36.31 | svenna_ | ive got a isdn line going in and a pbx on a zap channel intern - but all of a sudden i cant see the callerid anymore? wjat could be happend? do i have to configure anything to transfer callerids to the internal dvice? |
| 14:37.12 | srt | trixter: yep thats possible - but not nice. |
| 14:37.12 | trixter | dial has an option to send the original caller id iirc |
| 14:38.02 | srt | ill build a patch for app_userevent to support multiple properties and see if it gets accepted |
| 14:38.02 | svenna_ | ah ok, ill look for that- thx! |
| 14:38.07 | srt | thanks for your help |
| 14:38.10 | trixter | srt: it would be far easier than expecting people to patch their asterisk distro to use your tool, if you are that concerned about it make a userevent2 app that supports this |
| 14:38.31 | trixter | I doubt it would get accepted it gives control potentially to other things to break the manager interface |
| 14:38.37 | trixter | think sendmail 8.6.9 vuln |
| 14:39.22 | trixter | yes that is a multi year old vuln (1997 or so) but it was a newline that was inserted where it shouldnt be because something relied on the fact that newlines werent sent via some service (ident specifically) |
| 14:40.00 | trixter | while ident is likely to not be an issue in this particular case, someone somewhere might send data somehow that is put in a userevent |
| 14:40.17 | srt | i think app_userevent should work like this: UserEvent(NewCall|property1: ${EXTEN}|propery2: ${CALLERID}|...) |
| 14:40.26 | srt | without any user having to care about newlines or stuff |
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| 14:40.37 | trixter | and that data can be corrupted, which can do weird things to the manager app that is running, and may even cause other things to happen that were totally unexpected |
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| 14:41.28 | trixter | so if it supports newlines and I pass caller id from a malicious server I cant send my own events |
| 14:41.30 | srt | of course it will break thinks if ppl except | to be passed to the manager api |
| 14:41.56 | trixter | becuase the seperator is really just a blank line.. what if I send as my caller id 123\n\n<new event here>\n\n |
| 14:41.59 | srt | but thats against the spec anyway as und unquoted | should be treated as a parameter delimiter |
| 14:42.37 | trixter | or whatever even if it is a | if it gets translated to a \n that has the same effect to the tool that connects to the manager interface |
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| 14:43.38 | srt | if its in user data it is not treated as delimiter |
| 14:44.00 | srt | what i want to do is to fix app_userevent to use the normal parsing functions of asterisk for parameters |
| 14:44.05 | trixter | how does app_userevent know? ${CALLERID} is expanded first |
| 14:44.17 | trixter | ahh ok I think I understand now |
| 14:44.35 | trixter | you want a va args thing rather than a single string that gets parsed later |
| 14:44.44 | srt | yep |
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| 14:45.08 | trixter | that *might* get accepted if you disclaim so it can be sold for proifit |
| 14:45.12 | trixter | er profit |
| 14:45.25 | srt | yep its not my first patch... |
| 14:45.43 | trixter | ahh so you work for free |
| 14:45.57 | trixter | in that case I have some code that needs to be written, always looking for people that work for free |
| 14:45.58 | trixter | :P |
| 14:48.22 | srt | lol |
| 14:48.53 | srt | asterisk/digium helps me get things done so i am happy to give back |
| 14:54.00 | viking78 | Hello all! Was anyone here envolved with or used the 2B transfer feature in libpri? |
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| 15:02.18 | trixter | I might actually write a gsm integrator to asterisk that currently no one has, not sure yet.. someone wants me to make some gsm test equipment and 90% of the code would be the same to actually make asterisk work as a mobile cell tower (ie BTS) |
| 15:03.11 | trixter | there are also some potentials for people to use the european freqs at very low power in america ... 1800MHz iirc has some overlapping slots that are allowed for low power unlicensed use |
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| 15:17.56 | svenna_ | i found it (f)orce (o)ld callerid is the key to heaven :-) |
| 15:18.10 | svenna_ | thanks again trixter |
| 15:18.12 | telmich | Jan 14 16:17:09 WARNING[4504]: chan_iax2.c:6970 socket_read: Call rejected by 84.56.106.77: No authority found |
| 15:18.19 | telmich | what's wrong when getting this message? |
| 15:18.33 | telmich | we've a friend definition on both sides |
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| 15:18.46 | telmich | permit=0.0.0.0/0.0.0.0 and host=dynamic |
| 15:19.02 | chiardon | hello |
| 15:19.16 | chiardon | someone from europe here now! |
| 15:19.21 | telmich | yes :) |
| 15:19.31 | chiardon | Hi telmich |
| 15:19.55 | chiardon | I'm having problems with the euroisdn signalig |
| 15:20.15 | chiardon | telmich could you give me a hand on that? |
| 15:20.17 | telmich | chiardon: oh, I use VoIP only |
| 15:20.28 | chiardon | hoooooooo . . .txn |
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| 15:20.58 | chiardon | santiago . . .where are you?? |
| 15:23.13 | chiardon | hi santiago |
| 15:23.36 | santiago | hi chiardon |
| 15:23.47 | santiago | chiardon, I'm in Colombia |
| 15:24.34 | chiardon | santiago do you have some experience with the euroisdn signaling? |
| 15:26.33 | chiardon | Santiago . . .it means a PRI signaling, framing and coding |
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| 15:30.28 | Rev3939493 | hi all |
| 15:30.34 | chiardon | santiago . .what kind of signalign use the isdn-PRI in Colombia?? |
| 15:30.53 | Rev3939493 | anyone using GrandStream GXP-2000 have a problem transferring and conferencing ? |
| 15:31.25 | Rev3939493 | i got a new GXP-2000 yesterday as a Demo... it's all configured and works fine all except if i try to transfer or conference, it just drops the call |
| 15:31.48 | benjk | Asterisk 1.0.10 is now GPL clean on OSX |
| 15:32.15 | BeHappy_ | what were the parts non-gpl? |
| 15:32.18 | benjk | well as far as all *known* GPL issues are concerned at least |
| 15:32.24 | benjk | Editline |
| 15:32.32 | Rev3939493 | i have call 1 active, someone calls in on line 2, i hold line 1, answer line 2, press conference, it says (Press the Line to conference with), when I press Line 1, it drops line 1. |
| 15:32.41 | BeHappy_ | oh |
| 15:33.08 | benjk | also Digium's GPL key checking thing is not compliant with section 7 of the GPL |
| 15:33.18 | benjk | but I removed that completely |
| 15:33.26 | trixter | well sec 7 in relation to sections 2-3 |
| 15:33.52 | benjk | further the welcome message is now compliant |
| 15:34.04 | trixter | Rev3939493: I dont have that problem with my gxp ... dunno what is going on there |
| 15:34.31 | Rev3939493 | trixter, let me try and collect some debug from * |
| 15:34.47 | trixter | use pastebin for that not here... just a FYI |
| 15:35.31 | trixter | http://www.i4u.com/article4921.html Free VOIPUSB Phone -- since there are ne wpeople now.. it looks like a POS, its a mail in rebate, there is likely to be shipping, but ... |
| 15:35.56 | santiago | chiardon, mmm, I really depends on the provider, you have to ask your telco for the kind of signalling of their E1s |
| 15:37.25 | trixter | benjk: licensing (which is being worked on in SVN but you arent using that) is also unclear, since there is some lgpl, bsd, apache 1 disclaimed (effectively the same as the netbsd license, but granted for asterisk), and gpl and all that ... however the program when distributed as a whole falls under an umbrella gpl - some components when seperate fall out of the gpl into their respective less restrictive licenses |
| 15:38.03 | trixter | but I dont think that is a gpl requirement to properly state what all the licenses are since its an umbrella license (I dont recall a clause offhand that states you have to) |
| 15:38.57 | trixter | its just a nice thing to do |
| 15:39.31 | Rev3939493 | can someone see what's wrong here? http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/KyLOAE96.html |
| 15:41.47 | chiardon | santiago . .hummmmmm . .you have some knowledge with d-channel related? |
| 15:41.48 | benjk | I am working on a 'show license all" command |
| 15:42.19 | benjk | that will display all the licenses involved |
| 15:42.34 | benjk | likewise 'show copyright all" |
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| 15:42.56 | ckruetze | Hi |
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| 15:46.38 | trixter | that is gonna require a change to each module and make it not compatible with anyting other than your fork :/ |
| 15:47.05 | trixter | while thatisnt a bad thing considering the specialized nature of your fork (osX) I generally dontl ike doing that (personal thing) |
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| 15:47.55 | Rev3939493 | ok i found the exact error when conferencing: |
| 15:47.56 | Rev3939493 | http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/1C5ffQ83.html |
| 15:48.02 | Rev3939493 | anyone recognize that? |
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| 15:50.17 | trixter | Rev3939493: did you see chan_sip.c:3588 process_sdp: No compatible codecs! or something else? |
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| 15:51.04 | trixter | I have seen that when asterisk cant negotiate with a phone for a codec for example.. where the phone has its list ofallowed and asterisk has its list and there are no two the same |
| 15:51.17 | littleall | hello, is it possible to play two sound files currently on the same channel? |
| 15:51.23 | trixter | try allow=all in asterisk or at least configure your phone to use something that is allowed |
| 15:51.48 | trixter | littleall: it will sound bad if you do generally ... why do you want to mix 2 ? |
| 15:52.13 | littleall | how to mix? |
| 15:52.30 | trixter | I think I asked why |
| 15:52.36 | trixter | because sometimes its not the right answer |
| 15:52.48 | trixter | you could use sox to mix it and stream the data |
| 15:53.05 | littleall | because i want to play the voice prompt with a music background |
| 15:53.07 | trixter | via an agi for example, I just am skeptical if you really want to do that |
| 15:54.01 | trixter | that would be a lot of overhead to mix all that for each caller, a cheat would be to toss the caller into a meetme and bridge in a context that has the ivr to the same meetme |
| 15:54.05 | littleall | sox mix and stream data is time consuming, it is not suitable used under the context of agi |
| 15:54.13 | trixter | I think it would be distracting though :/ |
| 15:54.32 | Rev3939493 | http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/hXl6al38.html |
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| 15:54.36 | Rev3939493 | there is a SIP debug |
| 15:54.46 | littleall | becaue in my case, the prompt voice and background music are dynamically changeable |
| 15:55.00 | chiardon | someone fro western europe// |
| 15:55.14 | trixter | Found description format PCMU |
| 15:55.14 | trixter | Found description format PCMA |
| 15:55.14 | Rev3939493 | i do not have any codecs turned off on the phone. and * is set to allow g729 and GSM on the extension. VoicePulse uses ulaw |
| 15:55.21 | trixter | Rev3939493: do you allow ulaw or alaw for those phones? |
| 15:55.31 | Rev3939493 | no |
| 15:55.31 | Rev3939493 | G729 / GSM |
| 15:55.43 | littleall | i am wondering whether it is possible to use one background() to play the background music and then playback () to play the voice prompt |
| 15:55.45 | trixter | lemme look again |
| 15:56.11 | Rev3939493 | the extension is only allowed g729 or GSM. but incomming calls from IAX voicepulse are ulaw. |
| 15:56.14 | trixter | littleall: maybe, although I am not sure that it will work the way you want, you can always try :) |
| 15:56.33 | Rev3939493 | i'm expecting * to do the transcoding |
| 15:57.04 | Rev3939493 | "SIP/2.0 488 Not acceptable here" |
| 15:57.04 | trixter | Rev3939493: its looking like its trying to get the phone to use ulaw or alaw |
| 15:57.11 | trixter | try enabling that in the phone and see if it works |
| 15:57.15 | Rev3939493 | ok let me try that |
| 15:57.32 | trixter | iirc you dont have to reboot for that change even though the web tool says you do, but you might |
| 15:57.38 | trixter | some stuff on the phone you dont even though it says you do |
| 15:57.55 | trixter | I use gsutil (modded to support the gxp2000 properly of course) so I config it via CLI |
| 15:58.11 | trixter | mercedes is pimping their 75mpg car |
| 15:58.18 | trixter | its WAY better than the VW 300mpg car |
| 15:58.34 | trixter | for example its a 2 side by side seat instead of tandem |
| 15:58.59 | trixter | they modeled it after a fish 'box fish' specifically |
| 15:59.28 | trixter | 75 mpg isnt bad, given that hybrids afaik arent up there yet |
| 15:59.41 | trixter | for you metric people 3.8l == 1 US gallon |
| 16:03.17 | Rev3939493 | ok trixter, it works now, after allow=ulaw and allow=alaw . but strangely the phone still says it's using G729 for the conference |
| 16:06.13 | trixter | sounds liek a sip negotiation bug then |
| 16:06.43 | trixter | either that or its really using ulaw and doesnt switch once the call is bridged.. did you confirm (via sip show channels) that its not using [u|a]law? |
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| 16:07.35 | Rev3939493 | no9, not yety |
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| 16:19.51 | telmich | Why can an incoming asterisk server NOT register, if the type=user? |
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| 16:20.39 | Chiardon | someone from europe now? |
| 16:21.40 | SkramX | Hi all |
| 16:22.25 | Chiardon | Hi SkramX |
| 16:23.45 | trixter | the mailing lists are busy this morning and generally its actually useful stuff |
| 16:23.48 | trixter | *shock* |
| 16:24.13 | [TK]D-Fender | telmich : Perhaps you should look at the debug of the register ATTEMPT. |
| 16:24.54 | telmich | [TK]D-Fender: I am now less confused |
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| 16:25.20 | [TK]D-Fender | telmich : Ok, so whats the current suspect? |
| 16:26.08 | telmich | [TK]D-Fender: no problem anymore, incoming and outgoing calls do fine |
| 16:27.27 | Chiardon | someone from western europe now??? |
| 16:27.37 | telmich | or..hrm.. |
| 16:27.54 | telmich | [TK]D-Fender: no. I do not really understand, which entry to use if someone wants to 'register' to me |
| 16:28.40 | telmich | [TK]D-Fender: If I want to make calls to another server, I use locally a peer definition and remote a user |
| 16:30.43 | [TK]D-Fender | So you are an "extension" on their system? |
| 16:30.55 | [TK]D-Fender | First of all, SIP or IAX? |
| 16:31.01 | telmich | iax |
| 16:31.13 | *** join/#asterisk urs (n=urs@zentrum.bielewelt.net) |
| 16:31.16 | [TK]D-Fender | Hmmm... i've never actually used IAX for trunking before... |
| 16:31.22 | telmich | [TK]D-Fender: I try to connect to urs |
| 16:31.26 | urs | hi |
| 16:31.36 | [TK]D-Fender | telmich : won't get you far yet, |
| 16:31.40 | telmich | [TK]D-Fender: we have some connections, but we are not sure how registration and calling relate together |
| 16:32.09 | urs | It's quite confusing, which passwords in iax.conf are responsible for what |
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| 16:32.43 | urs | the username and passwort I supply in a peer-entry... is used for the opposite side to register with me? |
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| 16:32.56 | urs | or for me calling the opposite side? |
| 16:33.05 | trixter | passwords are optional in iax as I understand it.. if not specified it will match against any passwordless account, if a username isnt specified it will match the password against all accounts |
| 16:33.13 | trixter | makes dictionary attacks easier at least |
| 16:33.15 | urs | but we'd like to use passwords. :) |
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| 16:33.49 | [TK]D-Fender | telmich : Looks easy enough |
| 16:33.51 | trixter | guest is a special user that is given weight if there is no password specified however |
| 16:34.27 | [TK]D-Fender | this page really does say it all.. http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+Connect+2+servers |
| 16:34.33 | trixter | urs: well make sure you choose passwords well cause if you use a dictionary password it can be guessed without knowing the username and calls can be placed as that user potentially ... bad mojo |
| 16:34.51 | trixter | [TK]D-Fender: hey that is in the voip hacks book be oreilly! |
| 16:34.51 | urs | [TK]D-Fender: Ok, we were looking at http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+-+dual+servers |
| 16:34.59 | trixter | that is such a waste of a book :/ |
| 16:35.15 | telmich | [TK]D-Fender: we read that |
| 16:35.19 | trixter | *nothing* new or novel in there and nothing really of value except to an ABSOLUTE n00b to voip in general |
| 16:35.24 | [TK]D-Fender | trixter, which book? TFOT? |
| 16:35.42 | [TK]D-Fender | trixter : the forward says it IS for people who are new to *! |
| 16:35.44 | trixter | 'voip hacks' by oreilly |
| 16:35.49 | trixter | released dec 2005 |
| 16:36.04 | trixter | got my free copy yesterday to review and um I feel bad putting that review up but its a horrible useless book |
| 16:36.07 | [TK]D-Fender | trixter : Same stuff.. most books are for people who have to see it in print before they try anything... |
| 16:36.12 | trixter | even though I got it free I somehow feel bad for having it |
| 16:36.30 | [TK]D-Fender | I'm going to make a completely new dialplan page for the WIKI to strighen out newbs... |
| 16:36.32 | trixter | well the hacks series by oreilly is generally good |
| 16:37.03 | [TK]D-Fender | telmich : In that page, just use the 1st sample.... |
| 16:37.09 | trixter | there is at least something in there that is useful, but this is questionable at having any value, becuase hacks imply that you know at least a little and I think that it really is for such a small market group, those that know what voip is but never used it |
| 16:37.21 | [TK]D-Fender | telmich : dead easy. Just implement it mirror image on the other server |
| 16:37.36 | telmich | [TK]D-Fender: mo |
| 16:37.39 | telmich | m |
| 16:37.40 | trixter | I think hack #5 is connecting to a voip provider that is BYOD (not with asterisk specifically but with *anything*) |
| 16:37.59 | trixter | another hack is getting a sipura ATA with FXO and using that to connect your phone line to voip stuff |
| 16:38.02 | [TK]D-Fender | trixter : Book sounds really worthless... |
| 16:38.06 | trixter | they classify that as a hack! |
| 16:38.15 | [TK]D-Fender | trixter : Thats the SPA-3000 |
| 16:38.19 | [TK]D-Fender | 's entire poitn! |
| 16:38.32 | trixter | it cant be else that wouldnt be a hack :P |
| 16:38.51 | [TK]D-Fender | I can't be otherwise someone would be wasting money on a book! |
| 16:38.52 | [TK]D-Fender | ;) |
| 16:39.06 | trixter | ha |
| 16:39.21 | trixter | the book is full of stuff like that and really nothing of value :/ |
| 16:39.33 | telmich | [TK]D-Fender: method1 runs, but without registration from REC_SERVER to sending server |
| 16:39.35 | trixter | I give it 2 packets down |
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| 16:40.54 | [TK]D-Fender | telmich : Correct, it is a REG-less method that is authenticated at the point of placing the call. Simple. I like it :) |
| 16:41.25 | [TK]D-Fender | trixter : 2 packets down? More like 2 packets LOST |
| 16:42.04 | [TK]D-Fender | I printed TFOT just as a refernce in case the WIKI goes down :) I'd like to mirror it at fixed points in time though for local browseing. |
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| 16:48.12 | Scp2004- | anyone here from brazil?? |
| 16:48.18 | telmich | what means 'trunk=yes' below a type=user specification in iax.conf |
| 16:48.23 | Chiardon | how can I compile only the Tor2 driver whitout wct4xxp? |
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| 16:49.27 | Chiardon | or can i work with the first generation Digium card with both? |
| 16:49.31 | [TK]D-Fender | telmich : That means that if you place multiple calls over that same connection at a time it will combine the voice stream and share a common header overhead. |
| 16:50.08 | [TK]D-Fender | telmich : Look halfway down this page to see the scaling benifits : http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk+bandwidth+iax2 |
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| 16:53.45 | telmich | ILL |
| 16:54.17 | telmich | STRANGE |
| 16:54.26 | telmich | exten => _23XXX,1,Dial(IAX2/raus-urs/${EXTEN:2},30,r) |
| 16:54.33 | telmich | and raus-urs ist type=peer |
| 16:54.36 | telmich | host=dynamic |
| 16:54.48 | telmich | but I still can connect to the host. without any register argument. |
| 16:54.52 | telmich | why does that work? |
| 16:55.04 | urs | We've got host=dynamic entries on both sides |
| 16:55.16 | telmich | and no registration, nowhere |
| 16:55.26 | urs | the ip or hostname appear nowhere in the conif |
| 16:55.29 | urs | config |
| 16:55.35 | urs | but connecting works |
| 16:55.43 | telmich | it should not work, but we speak together |
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| 16:58.53 | Jedirl | Hello |
| 16:59.07 | r_evolution | Hello |
| 16:59.09 | [TK]D-Fender | telmich : Thats because the connection credentials are passed along with the call being placed and has a matching entry. there is no registration because it is a ONE-WAY call. |
| 16:59.30 | Chiardon | I', treing to put the Tor2 module up . . but impossible...what could be happen? |
| 16:59.49 | [TK]D-Fender | telmich : That means that the other side can't use that link to pass other calls and needs to be set up in a mirror image. |
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| 17:00.42 | [TK]D-Fender | so its not a "permanent" link that tries to register all the time. it is invoked on demand only. |
| 17:01.38 | svenna_ | my asterisk is a sip client - how can i force to use gsm, not alaw? or: where do i put disallow / allow? in general an my outgoining ext dont care about it... |
| 17:01.59 | [TK]D-Fender | This means if one of the server's IP is dynamic and doesn't have a dynamic DNS service that this isn't a great idea. But if both are fixed it mean you don't have to worry about tons of registration attempts. It'll just initiat a connection when an actual call is being placed. |
| 17:02.18 | telmich | hrm, method3 in the example does not work |
| 17:02.20 | [TK]D-Fender | svenna_ : In the client section. |
| 17:03.50 | [TK]D-Fender | svenna_ : What service are you connecting to using GSM? |
| 17:04.22 | svenna_ | hmmm - i dont know, if there is a client section in my case... im using standart isdn phones on an NT hfc isdncard |
| 17:04.44 | svenna_ | when a call goes out - it connects to sip-provider |
| 17:05.16 | svenna_ | therefor ive got an sipproviper-out section in sip.conf |
| 17:05.33 | svenna_ | i set it there, but it still uses alaw... |
| 17:05.53 | [TK]D-Fender | svenna_ : GSM has nothing to do with your PSTN link, only your VoIP ones.... |
| 17:06.33 | [TK]D-Fender | svenna_ : I don't know too many SIP providers that SUPPORT GSM. Are you sure yours does? |
| 17:06.50 | svenna_ | ahhhhh |
| 17:07.00 | svenna_ | thats probably it ;-) |
| 17:07.11 | svenna_ | ok, ithought they all do :-) |
| 17:07.25 | [TK]D-Fender | VERY few devices support it. |
| 17:07.27 | svenna_ | ok, i try to find out :) |
| 17:07.30 | lesouvage | The m parameter (music instead of hearing the ringing) using the Dial command stops suddenly working. The music on hold itself still working. I can't find out what I have messed up. Any suggestions? |
| 17:07.53 | [TK]D-Fender | Many OSS-firmware based phones do, and * naturally |
| 17:08.24 | [TK]D-Fender | lesouvage : Does it stop in the middle or does it not work at all any more? |
| 17:08.28 | svenna_ | ok, so what codec should i use? i try to waste litte bandwidth... |
| 17:09.08 | lesouvage | [TK]D-Fender: it doesn't work at all anymore, while it works for month. |
| 17:09.13 | [TK]D-Fender | svenna_ : depends on their options. G.729 is a good choice but needs to be licensed. |
| 17:09.21 | r_evolution | ^ |
| 17:09.26 | [TK]D-Fender | lesouvage : Upgraded * recently? |
| 17:09.35 | lesouvage | [TK]D-Fender: yes |
| 17:09.38 | svenna_ | ok, i go and look for, whats supportet |
| 17:09.44 | svenna_ | thanks alot! |
| 17:09.50 | [TK]D-Fender | lesouvage : Paste your dial command as you use it now. |
| 17:10.22 | r_evolution | D-Fender seems to be the man of the hour... I'm still trying to figure out what's going on with my issue while trying to lurk and learn ;) |
| 17:10.28 | r_evolution | well... man or woman =\ |
| 17:11.26 | lesouvage | [TK]D-Fender: exten => s,4,Dial(SIP/502&SIP/501,20,m) |
| 17:12.01 | lesouvage | [TK]D-Fender: This is in the context that handles the incoming calls |
| 17:12.08 | [TK]D-Fender | r_evolution : I help where I can.. |
| 17:12.22 | r_evolution | i noticed. I'm sure everyone appreciates it... even if it's not always said. |
| 17:12.29 | [TK]D-Fender | lesouvage : do you see it trying to initiate MOH in CLI? |
| 17:12.57 | lesouvage | [TK]D-Fender: evrything looks like it should work and playing a file with silence, but it isn't. |
| 17:12.59 | [TK]D-Fender | r_evolution : Whats your issue? |
| 17:13.18 | [TK]D-Fender | lesouvage : and it works with normal use? |
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| 17:13.50 | lesouvage | [TK]D-Fender: Ik made an extension with musiconhold and when I call that extension I hear the music. |
| 17:13.52 | r_evolution | trying to work with entice softswitch... which keeps seeming to be impossible... but everyone else can't get it to register... I've gotten it to register... but it keeps rejecting the call w/ a 400 error... so i'm still digging and reading ;) |
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| 17:14.53 | lesouvage | [TK]D-Fender: I will try realy onhold now, I haven't done the obvious. |
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| 17:15.41 | lesouvage | [TK]D-Fender: that works fine |
| 17:16.20 | lesouvage | [TK]D-Fender: It isn't a real problem but I can't stand it that it isn't working anymore. |
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| 17:18.16 | [TK]D-Fender | lesouvage : Did you try and set your ring time to 100 seconds and see how it reacts? |
| 17:18.45 | [TK]D-Fender | r_evolution : Is it regecting incoming, outgoing, or both? |
| 17:18.56 | lesouvage | [TK]D-Fender: No I haven't |
| 17:19.03 | xylo | yes |
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| 17:20.22 | r_evolution | rejecting outgoing w/ 400 |
| 17:20.29 | r_evolution | rejecting incoming w/ no compatible codec |
| 17:21.14 | [TK]D-Fender | r_evolution : fix the codec part first.... thats a "must" |
| 17:21.24 | r_evolution | well there's the confusion... |
| 17:21.29 | [TK]D-Fender | r_evolution : Let me guess... G.729 only? |
| 17:21.34 | r_evolution | negative sir. |
| 17:21.40 | r_evolution | it's my company :) |
| 17:21.45 | r_evolution | so i have access to the switch |
| 17:21.51 | r_evolution | and they're SUPPOSED to be ulaw |
| 17:22.20 | r_evolution | from what they keep telling us... and to that end, all our distributed ATAs are set w ulaw as the primary |
| 17:22.28 | r_evolution | and that's why i'm like O_o about the codec |
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| 17:22.45 | pb__ | Is it safe to use bristuff's app_pickup.c without the rest of the bristuff patch? It seems to be working okay at the moment, but I wasn't sure if there are any subtle dependencies. |
| 17:23.17 | r_evolution | it's such a puzzle to me that i'm actually at work on saturday :-\ (i.e. my day off) in order to tinker with it |
| 17:23.23 | r_evolution | last night it wasn |
| 17:23.37 | lesouvage | [TK]D-Fender: strange thing happens, I got, after long time ringing, a message from my cellphone telco that maybe the phone has been switched off. This is cli output: Started music on hold, class 'default', on Zap/2-1 |
| 17:23.47 | r_evolution | wasn't even registering... |
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| 17:24.24 | [TK]D-Fender | :/ |
| 17:24.29 | r_evolution | but i moved it in front of all firewalls... set the localnet... allowed gsm,ulaw and alaw (in sip.conf)... set the port... made it insecure=very... |
| 17:24.48 | r_evolution | set the host... set the fromdomain... etc |
| 17:24.57 | r_evolution | so NOW it registers... and i see it in the switch |
| 17:24.57 | [TK]D-Fender | r_evolution : Maybe its using ULAW but the codec descriptor isn't right on the switch |
| 17:25.01 | r_evolution | and that makes me go :-D |
| 17:25.19 | r_evolution | hmm... a complete possibility... |
| 17:25.35 | r_evolution | in all honesty, i'm not very into the people running our switch... for more than a few reasons |
| 17:26.08 | r_evolution | *ahem*idiots*ahem* |
| 17:26.44 | svenna_ | [TK]D-Fender : it sees like my provider just supports alaw and ulaw... :-( |
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| 17:28.57 | r_evolution | i'd be ecstatic if this provider properly passed the ulaw apparently... |
| 17:29.29 | [TK]D-Fender | svenna_ : I doubt that... I'm sure they support G.729 as well... |
| 17:30.08 | r_evolution | ^i echo that statement... |
| 17:30.33 | lesouvage | [TK]D-Fender: Maybe it's because of the update I did a couple of days ago. It's not the kind of function that will be missed by a lot of persons. I'm running Xorcom. I will the Xorcom guys let it know. |
| 17:30.34 | [TK]D-Fender | No provider wants to eat up their bandwidth on G.711 just for you :) |
| 17:30.49 | r_evolution | see the catch is [TK] is that we DO have MANY working ATAs out in general use |
| 17:30.59 | r_evolution | that are supposedly on ulaw |
| 17:31.12 | [TK]D-Fender | r_evolution : I'm sure its the switch... |
| 17:31.22 | r_evolution | now admittedly... they're not the best ATAs (UT Starcom/Azatel -- same box different plastic cover)... but they're working =\ |
| 17:31.25 | [TK]D-Fender | r_evolution : just a question of where and why |
| 17:31.44 | svenna_ | [TK]D-Fender : i tried it: * said there is no way to translate between zap and sip |
| 17:31.45 | r_evolution | Yeah... a big question... given that i'm trying to replace the dying pbx in this company with * |
| 17:31.47 | Scp2004- | hey guys how to open the port 5060?? |
| 17:32.31 | [TK]D-Fender | svenna_ : Thats beacuse YOU don't have G.729 licensed. Go to http://www.digium.com and buy a license for it |
| 17:32.43 | svenna_ | ahhhh :-) i see |
| 17:33.00 | [TK]D-Fender | r_evolution : Does youswitch give any in depth parameters for codec selection? |
| 17:33.09 | r_evolution | see b/c when I provide the termination on an analog line with a TDM02B... i can call from all over the office and term on the line... both in and out... using FWD I can call... so yeah i'm def leaning towards your switch theory [TK] (at least on the codec) |
| 17:33.17 | *** part/#asterisk urs (n=urs@zentrum.bielewelt.net) |
| 17:33.18 | lesouvage | Scp2004: Normally using the webinterface to your firewall/router and open the port. |
| 17:33.31 | r_evolution | Not sure. I' have to get the guy who toys with it the most to check on that one... and he's not coming in here on a saturday... family and all that |
| 17:33.59 | [TK]D-Fender | r_evolution you don't have direct access to it? |
| 17:34.48 | Scp2004- | [lesouvage] but what have i to do to open the port using the linux console? |
| 17:35.23 | lesouvage | Scp2004: You mean on the asterisk server itself? |
| 17:35.23 | r_evolution | nah i do have access to the switch, but I'm not as familiar with it as he is |
| 17:35.25 | [TK]D-Fender | Scp2004- : What distro are you using? |
| 17:35.32 | r_evolution | and no i dont have physical access |
| 17:35.37 | [TK]D-Fender | r_evolution : What kind of mgmt interface? |
| 17:36.00 | r_evolution | Emergent Network |
| 17:36.03 | [TK]D-Fender | r_evolution : I meant any kind of direct control (web, telnet, etc). |
| 17:36.03 | r_evolution | http |
| 17:36.07 | r_evolution | ^ |
| 17:36.07 | [TK]D-Fender | AH |
| 17:36.16 | M-I-A- | the telco 1004hz test tone, can that be heard by the human ear? |
| 17:36.23 | Scp2004- | [[TK]D-Fender] what is distro? |
| 17:36.35 | [TK]D-Fender | Just go cruising in it! Make sure the codec desc is PCMU for ULAW |
| 17:36.48 | r_evolution | I could go into a dissertation of how effed up this entire solution is [TK]... but i have to go home at some point ;x |
| 17:36.52 | [TK]D-Fender | Scp2004- : If you don't know what means you're in real trouble... |
| 17:36.57 | r_evolution | scp distro is the flavor of *nix you installed... |
| 17:37.06 | r_evolution | i.e. |
| 17:37.16 | r_evolution | Fedora, Debian, SUSE, eetc etc etc |
| 17:37.24 | [TK]D-Fender | Fedora Core, Debian, RHEL, CentOS, Slackware, Gentoo, etc.... |
| 17:37.25 | Scp2004- | wow :) |
| 17:37.31 | r_evolution | <---not about to list all flavors... again i have to go home at some point |
| 17:37.37 | Scp2004- | Im using ubuntu |
| 17:37.54 | [TK]D-Fender | r_evolution : c'mon.. the delusions are what lets us sleep at night :) |
| 17:38.05 | r_evolution | ok... are you trying to open the ports in your hardware firewall... orrr iptables? |
| 17:38.16 | r_evolution | haha... delusions... they're what send me running from the office some days |
| 17:38.32 | Scp2004- | iptables |
| 17:38.37 | [TK]D-Fender | Scp2004- : You've got a firewall control panel in there somewhere. But as I've read it leaves the doors wide open by DEFAULT so you dshouldn't even have to be asking that question. |
| 17:38.37 | r_evolution | ever tried to configure an entire * server with people on your back constantly to install a network printer |
| 17:38.43 | Scp2004- | i dont have a hardware firewall |
| 17:38.51 | [TK]D-Fender | r_evolution : thats my job description :) |
| 17:38.53 | r_evolution | go into /etc |
| 17:39.08 | Scp2004- | and..?? |
| 17:39.12 | r_evolution | try editing the hosts.allow and see if that helps :) |
| 17:39.32 | r_evolution | OR |
| 17:39.38 | Scp2004- | ok but what file have I to edit? |
| 17:39.44 | r_evolution | haha |
| 17:39.45 | r_evolution | ^ |
| 17:40.15 | r_evolution | you could also try turning off iptables |
| 17:40.21 | r_evolution | to see if that's really the problem |
| 17:40.39 | r_evolution | hey TK... it's only part of my job function |
| 17:40.43 | r_evolution | my job function = IT |
| 17:40.46 | r_evolution | oh we need a graphic |
| 17:40.50 | r_evolution | we need a website |
| 17:40.56 | r_evolution | we need a freaking powerpoint presentation |
| 17:41.01 | [TK]D-Fender | r_evolution : Yeah.. I solve the "any" key and "my numbers don't work" problems too :) |
| 17:41.05 | r_evolution | some days... i need a darvocet |
| 17:41.17 | r_evolution | my favorite quotes include |
| 17:41.20 | r_evolution | "are you busy" |
| 17:41.32 | r_evolution | while my face is nearly mashed against the screen with lines of code in front of me |
| 17:41.38 | r_evolution | and im BLATANTLY ignoring them |
| 17:41.41 | r_evolution | and |
| 17:41.44 | r_evolution | "Are you on the phone" |
| 17:41.50 | r_evolution | while i'm holding a handset to my head and speaking... |
| 17:41.51 | r_evolution | :-\ |
| 17:42.18 | rob0 | I know you're faking that call, I saw your * logs! |
| 17:42.21 | [TK]D-Fender | Scp2004- : You are not directly connected to the net on that PC are you? Your open port list looks insane... |
| 17:42.37 | [TK]D-Fender | You are proxy'd or NAT'd somewhere... |
| 17:42.38 | *** part/#asterisk Scp2004- (n=afoon@201.29.180.248) |
| 17:42.42 | lesouvage | Scp2004: Do you just want to start with Asterisk to see whant it is? |
| 17:43.00 | r_evolution | Hey scp... try /sbin/iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i ppp0 -p tcp --dport $pt -j DNAT --to-destination |
| 17:43.02 | lesouvage | to late for Scp2004 |
| 17:43.08 | r_evolution | hahah @ rob |
| 17:43.13 | r_evolution | no one sees my logs :-D |
| 17:43.18 | r_evolution | MY BOX |
| 17:43.22 | r_evolution | MY LOGS... back off ;) |
| 17:43.34 | [TK]D-Fender | Look what he had open : http://pastebin.com/505554 |
| 17:43.39 | r_evolution | O_o\ |
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| 17:44.53 | rob0 | only 3 ports open ... unless your ISP is blocking the SMB/CIFS ports |
| 17:45.02 | rob0 | Comcast does. |
| 17:45.17 | [TK]D-Fender | He was behind squid (yeah right on Ubuntu), |
| 17:45.29 | [TK]D-Fender | Still filtered |
| 17:45.38 | [TK]D-Fender | WIERD list |
| 17:45.48 | [TK]D-Fender | he's gone, so who cares... |
| 17:46.17 | lesouvage | [TK]D-Fender: the lisings of this forum are on the internet. |
| 17:46.31 | rob0 | [TK]D-Fender: try some finger queries :) |
| 17:46.59 | r_evolution | im just afraid when someone says "What's your distro" and the person replies "what's a distro?" |
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| 17:50.02 | r_evolution | time-outs... :\ |
| 17:50.03 | [TK]D-Fender | I know so very little about linux IMO yet I'm running Slackware jsut fine and find it EASIER at CLI than everything else. I like the install process better, using LILO, and always having the std dev libraries and not having to compile EVERYTHING. |
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| 17:50.41 | r_evolution | I'm going to second [TK]... i'm not exactly NEW but i'm far from experienced... and I'm diggin on debian right now |
| 17:50.43 | [TK]D-Fender | I'd appreciate Debian more if it were more compact (14 CD's!) and offered me LILO by default |
| 17:50.56 | r_evolution | it started on RH... went to SUSE and fell in love with debian |
| 17:51.00 | Qwell | I'd appreciate debian more if it didn't suck! :p |
| 17:51.02 | r_evolution | nah it's not really 14 CDs D-Fen |
| 17:51.07 | trixter | [TK]D-Fender: mine was less than a full CD and offered grub |
| 17:51.10 | [TK]D-Fender | I just finished DL'ing it and I don't even think I have enough CD's to burn it all... |
| 17:51.11 | trixter | what version? |
| 17:51.22 | r_evolution | [TK] |
| 17:51.25 | r_evolution | just use the first CD |
| 17:51.29 | Qwell | meh |
| 17:51.30 | [TK]D-Fender | trixter : 3.1 Sarge |
| 17:51.30 | Qwell | netinst |
| 17:51.34 | r_evolution | install a base-system... |
| 17:51.36 | trixter | ahh I do etch iirc |
| 17:51.37 | Qwell | 120mb iso |
| 17:51.38 | r_evolution | exactly ^ |
| 17:51.44 | r_evolution | apt-get install <package> |
| 17:51.46 | Qwell | or just use gentoo |
| 17:51.47 | Qwell | :P |
| 17:51.58 | [TK]D-Fender | Lets just say I want all the basic stuf I get with Slackware in 2 disks. |
| 17:52.00 | trixter | think my installer is etch anyway, mini iso and get whatever I need off the network by the time you get the CDs there are updates |
| 17:52.00 | r_evolution | to hell with the whole "let's install everything on the planet" |
| 17:52.14 | [TK]D-Fender | I don't always want to grab from the net just to insall X11 and a DM. |
| 17:52.21 | trixter | there is a 5MB debian installer iirc |
| 17:52.25 | trixter | hea net has one |
| 17:52.39 | trixter | it might be smaller, but I am not sure, I know they havea 5MB one |
| 17:52.41 | r_evolution | See now this is like religious debates |
| 17:52.51 | r_evolution | "So which distro do YOU prefer?" |
| 17:52.56 | r_evolution | *lightning cracks the sky* |
| 17:53.05 | trixter | I thought it was talking about options within a specific distro |
| 17:53.08 | [TK]D-Fender | I'm not knocking Debian, its my personal tastes + ignorance. No slander there... |
| 17:53.29 | [TK]D-Fender | And fueled by my lazyness of course :) |
| 17:53.37 | Qwell | [TK]D-Fender: be glad you've never had to touch the bastardization that was dselect |
| 17:53.55 | r_evolution | i know :-D I'm just saying it's almost a topic that ends up in hours of discussion |
| 17:53.56 | [TK]D-Fender | Qwell : quick explanation? |
| 17:53.56 | Qwell | horrible package chooser thing |
| 17:54.03 | Qwell | like...AWFUL |
| 17:54.20 | Qwell | it tried to manage deps...but it failed miserably |
| 17:54.25 | [TK]D-Fender | Qwell : dselect is like Synaptic? or a differnt kind of app? |
| 17:54.26 | r_evolution | :-\ |
| 17:54.29 | trixter | I dont trust distros that dont come stock with vi or ftp but takes 1.2GB on my drive |
| 17:54.48 | trixter | dselect is what apt-get calls indirectly |
| 17:54.55 | Qwell | So, you'd choose a package, and it would say like "Yeah, you need these 8 packages also" "okay, sure, select those" "okay, I lied. those 8 packages...you can't use them, because they conflict with each other" |
| 17:55.01 | [TK]D-Fender | trixter : Debian doesn't come with FTP by default!? |
| 17:55.49 | trixter | and what the installer uses to do use type installs (workstation, development, etc) |
| 17:55.49 | Qwell | Then you'd just kinda go "wtf?!" |
| 17:55.49 | r_evolution | haha @ qwell |
| 17:55.49 | trixter | [TK]D-Fender: no the gentoo distro I got didnt come with ftp or vi but took 1.2GB |
| 17:55.49 | r_evolution | "okay i lied!" |
| 17:55.49 | [TK]D-Fender | *sigh* |
| 17:55.49 | r_evolution | O_O |
| 17:56.04 | Qwell | trixter: gentoo doesn't "come with" anything |
| 17:56.18 | r_evolution | I never actually tried to use the package management system... i got stupid/brave enough to try to manually select packages with debian one time |
| 17:56.22 | r_evolution | and the interface was ... |
| 17:56.23 | trixter | but anyway, with dselect its not that bad now, and it is the backend to install stuff in debian, so in effect you do use it you just dont see it, it has an ncurses interface to sellect stuff |
| 17:56.23 | r_evolution | not pleasant |
| 17:56.30 | Qwell | sure, you'll have the needed stuff in the base stage 1 install |
| 17:56.34 | trixter | I dont like it personally, rather use apt-get |
| 17:56.39 | r_evolution | me too ^ |
| 17:56.50 | trixter | Qwell: it came with 1.2GB so it had to come with 'something' |
| 17:57.05 | Qwell | `emerge world` doesn't give you 1.2gb |
| 17:57.11 | r_evolution | it makes things a lot quicker b/c all you have to do is apt-get <command> <package> |
| 17:57.11 | Qwell | erm, system |
| 17:57.16 | trixter | I couldnt even find a reasonable editor to set up portage to get vi or ftp |
| 17:57.21 | trixter | so I nuked it |
| 17:57.42 | trixter | I couldnt emerge cause that wasnt configured in this distro |
| 17:57.46 | trixter | it wsa the colinux one |
| 17:58.06 | Skkip | Does someone have a good rollover dial plan? i.e. one voip provider goes down then the call will go out the voip provider. |
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| 17:58.11 | [TK]D-Fender | WTF is "callbook" (TCP 2000)? |
| 17:58.14 | Skkip | Right now I have one provider listed under another, but I'm not sure that's the proper way to do it. |
| 17:58.22 | Qwell | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:58.29 | Qwell | is tcp 2000 |
| 17:58.33 | [TK]D-Fender | Qwell : thanks! |
| 17:58.48 | trixter | Skkip: I use routing tables in mysql, and look that up from within my ael based dialplan and use a while loop to enumerate through all of the routes until the call goes through |
| 17:59.15 | trixter | Skkip: that should work ... there is no 'proper' way because most situations are different enough |
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| 17:59.53 | trixter | my situation uses not just failover but also LCR, so its a little more than what you are looking for |
| 18:00.05 | Skkip | I see |
| 18:00.07 | lesouvage | . |
| 18:00.30 | trixter | gah I was gonna look something up and now I cant remember |
| 18:00.54 | r_evolution | doesnt it suck when that happens... |
| 18:01.17 | r_evolution | when you're like oo! oo! then by the time you get around to doing it... you've forgotten what it was |
| 18:01.25 | r_evolution | it's been stolen by the ubiquitous THEY |
| 18:01.53 | trixter | oh wow cnn just claled alitos wife a liar |
| 18:01.55 | trixter | for crying |
| 18:02.00 | trixter | I smell a lawsuit |
| 18:02.11 | Skkip | Trix, You use the LCR more for country code lookups? ( Iguess I ass-u-me ur in the US). |
| 18:07.00 | r_evolution | everybody smile - http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b343/Runrgrl/a03c9642.jpg |
| 18:07.15 | r_evolution | and no that is not me... i am NOT female... just a friend and it always makes me go :-D |
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| 18:09.02 | Corydon76-home | Great... soft porn on the #asterisk channel |
| 18:09.24 | r_evolution | psst. now pretend you dont like soft porn :) |
| 18:09.38 | Math` | lol |
| 18:11.23 | r_evolution | :-D |
| 18:11.46 | r_evolution | be honest... it's always nice to go home and lay down between a set of breasts and not care about anything else |
| 18:13.28 | r_evolution | well unless you're a female i suppose =\... but even still |
| 18:14.02 | Corydon76-home | Yeah, but I prefer gay porn |
| 18:14.07 | rob0 | even females are born wanting the comfort of breasts :) |
| 18:14.51 | Qwell | Corydon76-home: most guys do...just...slightly different :p |
| 18:15.03 | Corydon76-home | slightly? |
| 18:15.06 | Qwell | entirely |
| 18:15.20 | Strom_C | all cock, all the time! |
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| 18:15.47 | Qwell | r_evolution: see what you started? :P |
| 18:15.55 | r_evolution | yes :-D |
| 18:16.06 | Corydon76-home | What did Ron White say about this? "All men are slightly gay... and I can prove it..." |
| 18:16.08 | pifiu | wasup everyone |
| 18:16.31 | Qwell | Corydon76-home: dunno, what did he say? |
| 18:16.39 | r_evolution | hey i say that same thing about females :) |
| 18:16.49 | r_evolution | all women have the potential to be bi |
| 18:16.49 | Oryn | can anyone tell me if there is a fifo that moh uses? I tried to use madplay for moh and I get no sound when on hold. I put back the settings and stings still dont work :( |
| 18:16.57 | r_evolution | it just varies from one to another how much alochol that requires |
| 18:16.59 | Corydon76-home | "If you're watching straight porn, do you want to see a guy with a small, flaccid penis?" |
| 18:17.10 | r_evolution | hahahaha cory |
| 18:17.13 | Qwell | Corydon76-home: :P |
| 18:17.19 | pifiu | wtf flacid penises in the asterisk channel |
| 18:17.23 | justinu | r_evolution: MDMA often produces more interesting results |
| 18:17.24 | Corydon76-home | "No, I want to see a big, hard... I did not know that about myself..." |
| 18:17.26 | r_evolution | no i want to a big hard throbbing coo OH MY GOD! |
| 18:17.28 | r_evolution | haha |
| 18:17.40 | pifiu | can someone help me out with voicemail notification? |
| 18:17.43 | r_evolution | nah justin... i'm so past the candy raver stage |
| 18:17.47 | Qwell | pifiu: ask away...if you dare |
| 18:18.20 | r_evolution | haha @ qwell |
| 18:18.29 | justinu | r_evolution: i learned all sorts of interesting things about my fiance with it... :P |
| 18:18.32 | r_evolution | you see what i bring to a channel... absolute chaos |
| 18:18.58 | r_evolution | psst i learned all sorts of interesting things about myself with several loads of lsd :-\ |
| 18:19.08 | justinu | heh |
| 18:19.09 | pifiu | ok couple of questions about it |
| 18:19.14 | Corydon76-home | Your face is melting... |
| 18:19.23 | pifiu | is it possible to set 2 email's for notification of one mailbox? |
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| 18:19.31 | r_evolution | nah... but i did stand on top of a drink machine at 4 A.M. once |
| 18:19.40 | pifiu | or better yet the word "multiple" email addresses for voicemail notification? |
| 18:19.48 | Qwell | pifiu: I imagine you could seperate them with a semicolon |
| 18:19.48 | Corydon76-home | pifiu: no, but if you use an alias file, you can break it out at that point |
| 18:19.57 | pifiu | hmm cuz here is what i find funny |
| 18:20.01 | Qwell | as long as your sendmail supports it? dunno |
| 18:20.05 | r_evolution | that was kind of my idea Qwell... |
| 18:20.05 | Corydon76-home | See /etc/mail/aliases |
| 18:20.13 | pifiu | wait wait but let me tell you something |
| 18:20.19 | pifiu | i have it setup like this in voicemail.conf |
| 18:20.24 | r_evolution | oh oh tell us! ;) |
| 18:20.36 | Corydon76-home | Basically you're sending the email to a distribution list, and the list sends it to multiple people |
| 18:20.48 | pifiu | 210 => 12345,Someone,myemail@domain.com,mysecondemail@domain.com |
| 18:20.55 | pifiu | and it sends it to the second but not the first |
| 18:20.59 | Qwell | commas seperate values |
| 18:21.03 | r_evolution | *nod* |
| 18:21.04 | Corydon76-home | Yeah, the first email address is for a PAGER |
| 18:21.10 | r_evolution | try the semicolon idea |
| 18:21.25 | Corydon76-home | semicolon won't work... semicolon delimits a COMMENT |
| 18:21.26 | pifiu | instead of comma? |
| 18:21.26 | Qwell | Corydon76-home: second? |
| 18:21.28 | pifiu | oh |
| 18:21.31 | pifiu | thats true |
| 18:21.35 | Qwell | escape it maybe? dunno |
| 18:21.47 | r_evolution | d'oh |
| 18:21.47 | r_evolution | very true cory |
| 18:21.53 | pifiu | well its not exactly a distribution list, its just my laptop email and then the other my cellphone |
| 18:21.53 | Corydon76-home | No, the only way to do this is to use the mail alias file |
| 18:21.59 | pifiu | i just want to do the same for everyone here |
| 18:22.13 | pifiu | ok and can someone guide me through that please? |
| 18:22.21 | Corydon76-home | For example, one of the emails on my home system goes to jeff@localhost |
| 18:22.44 | Corydon76-home | and then /etc/mail/aliases sends user jeff email to multiple email addresses |
| 18:22.51 | r_evolution | see what you guys did... i wasn't paying attention to what i was doing... thought i was still in * CLI and was like "exit" |
| 18:23.03 | justinu | stop now :P |
| 18:23.07 | pifiu | ok cory stay with me as i look through this |
| 18:23.09 | pifiu | give me a minute |
| 18:23.11 | r_evolution | next thing i know logout... have to log back in etc etc |
| 18:23.15 | Corydon76-home | pifiu: what MTA are you using? |
| 18:23.31 | pifiu | MTA? |
| 18:23.32 | pifiu | mail? |
| 18:23.43 | Nugget | translation: sendmail :) |
| 18:23.45 | justinu | sendmail is an MTA |
| 18:23.46 | Corydon76-home | sendmail, postfix, qmail, etc? |
| 18:23.50 | pifiu | i have a /var/mail/ but not an alias |
| 18:23.52 | pifiu | i think sendmail |
| 18:23.54 | pifiu | how can i check? |
| 18:24.02 | Corydon76-home | ps auxwww |grep mail |
| 18:24.05 | Math` | check /etc/aliases |
| 18:24.10 | r_evolution | definitely time for some dead kenedys |
| 18:24.12 | r_evolution | kennedys( |
| 18:24.15 | r_evolution | erm. |
| 18:24.18 | r_evolution | eff it |
| 18:24.21 | Corydon76-home | Your alias file is going to be either /etc/mail/aliases or /etc/aliases |
| 18:24.24 | ckruetze | Hi, can anybody explain me the differences between switches and eswitches in AEL2 ? |
| 18:24.35 | Corydon76-home | Edit that file, then run newaliases |
| 18:24.36 | pifiu | sendmail im using |
| 18:24.47 | pifiu | ok its not the first so let me check the seocnd |
| 18:24.53 | Math` | ckruetze: eswitches are to reference a dialplan using, lets say, IAX2 on another context on another server |
| 18:25.03 | Math` | switches are to use stuff like dundi |
| 18:25.04 | pifiu | yes its the second |
| 18:25.23 | ckruetze | Math` Thanks |
| 18:25.31 | Corydon76-home | The file is in a very simple format: username: email1,email2,email3 |
| 18:26.10 | pifiu | it says for example |
| 18:26.16 | pifiu | ingres: root |
| 18:26.20 | pifiu | system: root |
| 18:26.25 | Corydon76-home | Yeah, those are system aliases |
| 18:26.26 | pifiu | support: postmaster |
| 18:26.33 | pifiu | ok so how would i do this? |
| 18:26.39 | Corydon76-home | See above |
| 18:27.12 | Corydon76-home | For example: pifiu: pifiu@pifiu.com,pifiu@gmail.com |
| 18:27.22 | pifiu | ok let me try it |
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| 18:27.36 | Corydon76-home | You must run 'newaliases' after editing the file, however |
| 18:27.42 | *** join/#asterisk Chiardon (n=pirch@200.71.58.39) |
| 18:27.44 | pifiu | ok stay with me lol i want to try this |
| 18:28.01 | Corydon76-home | and then set pifiu@localhost in voicemail.conf |
| 18:28.02 | pifiu | doesnt matter where i put myself in that list right? |
| 18:28.05 | pifiu | top or bottom? |
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| 18:28.10 | Corydon76-home | Nope |
| 18:29.02 | Chiardon | hello |
| 18:30.06 | Chiardon | I have a first generation TE400P card . .I try to use tor2 module in zaptel, but I get an error saying that no card was found on span1 |
| 18:31.00 | Corydon76-home | Well, no card was detected |
| 18:31.04 | Chiardon | however when I use the WCT4XXP module it works fine, but it starts to show every two hours or so a no D-Channel found error and everything dies |
| 18:31.22 | Corydon76-home | Then you don't have a T400P |
| 18:31.32 | Corydon76-home | You probably have a TE405P or TE410P |
| 18:31.52 | Chiardon | (and I do lsmod and I get a Xilinx comm card) |
| 18:32.03 | *** join/#asterisk xheliox (n=jeff@pdpc/supporter/active/xheliox) |
| 18:32.05 | Corydon76-home | Yeah, that's the PCI interface |
| 18:32.38 | pifiu | ok so basically now in voicemail.conf do i put just pifiu or pifiu@localhost? |
| 18:32.47 | pifiu | ok nevermind localhost |
| 18:33.53 | pifiu | ok testing... |
| 18:34.06 | justinu | chiadron: what happens when you do a "zap show status" |
| 18:34.24 | justinu | are there any BPVs or CRC errors on your span? |
| 18:36.04 | M-I-A- | Has anyone experienced a problem where the Rx audio goes to 0 when someone is talking? Here is my setup SIP hardphone <-> Internal 10/100 Switch <-> Asterisk <-> TDM400P <-> PSTN.. Now when using ztmonitor -vv I am watching the rx and tx as i am having a conversation and when I speak the tx goes up and the rx goes to 0.. causes and very awful conversation.. Anyone have a suggestion? |
| 18:36.05 | Chiardon | nooooooooopppp . .totally sure that we have first generation but the Tor 2 module never goes up . .only goes up wct4XXp |
| 18:36.45 | pifiu | ok here is what happened |
| 18:36.48 | [TK]D-Fender | Corydon-w : I've never actually used mail on Linux before. Do things like the Fax->email & voicemail.conf's use of voicemail require configuration of sendmail if all I want to use it for is just to send things? |
| 18:37.25 | pifiu | ok i received the notification on my cell, but not on my email still |
| 18:37.37 | shido6 | give it some time. |
| 18:37.38 | Chiardon | justinu . . in the span1 all in 0 . . no errors in all spans! |
| 18:37.39 | pifiu | basically the same thing |
| 18:37.49 | pifiu | it shouldnt take that long |
| 18:37.59 | pifiu | if anything i think the email should be faster than the text message right? |
| 18:38.16 | *** join/#asterisk Simon- (i=byte@proxima.arlott.org.uk) |
| 18:39.38 | Corydon76-home | [TK]D-Fender: depends upon how you installed sendmail |
| 18:39.42 | Chiardon | question can a TE400P card works well with the wct4xxp module . . instead tor 2?? |
| 18:39.54 | Corydon76-home | Most Linux distros preset sendmail to work when you install |
| 18:40.06 | [TK]D-Fender | Corydon76-home : I've got a default install of it from Slackware 10.2 and never so much as touched it before. |
| 18:40.10 | Corydon76-home | but if you install from source, you'll need to configure |
| 18:40.13 | *** join/#asterisk PoWeRKiLL (n=PoWeRKiL@84.205.154.241) |
| 18:40.23 | justinu | chiardon: how about if you check that command AFTER your Dchannel fails? |
| 18:40.26 | Corydon76-home | [TK]D-Fender: yep, should work out of the box |
| 18:40.28 | [TK]D-Fender | Corydon76-home : Its executable, but isn't daemonized |
| 18:40.37 | M-I-A- | Any digium tech's here today? |
| 18:40.54 | Corydon76-home | [TK]D-Fender: dunno... my Slackware box has sendmail running in the background |
| 18:40.55 | [TK]D-Fender | Corydon76-home : So I suppose I could just give a shot then with VM -> e-mail.... |
| 18:41.06 | Corydon76-home | Could, yes |
| 18:41.09 | [TK]D-Fender | Corydon76-home : I disabled mine from loading on boot. |
| 18:41.16 | Chiardon | justinu . .waiting to d channel down |
| 18:41.21 | Corydon76-home | [TK]D-Fender: ah, you might want to have it running |
| 18:41.24 | justinu | chiardon: ok ;) |
| 18:41.25 | Chiardon | have u got msn? |
| 18:41.33 | [TK]D-Fender | as it is I'm trying to crack down on open ports and can't kill BOOTPS (due to dhcpd) yet... |
| 18:41.41 | Chiardon | just to bug you over there ;) |
| 18:41.52 | Corydon76-home | [TK]D-Fender: why not just block incoming connections on port 25? |
| 18:42.00 | justinu | who me? |
| 18:42.04 | justinu | you can contact me on jabber |
| 18:42.10 | Nugget | yay jabber. |
| 18:42.13 | justinu | i don't use proprietary IM systems :P |
| 18:42.22 | [TK]D-Fender | Corydon76-home : My IPtables setup is pretty sad.... I haven't put in the learning time i should have... |
| 18:42.26 | Nivex | i wish I could convince some of my friends of that |
| 18:42.29 | Nugget | looks like google talk may actually be opening up for real soon, too. |
| 18:42.32 | Nivex | they still like AIM |
| 18:42.36 | justinu | nugget: yay!! |
| 18:42.42 | Nugget | so soon we can tell all the mouthbreathers to use google talk :) |
| 18:43.06 | justinu | my jabber id is justin@hyperdyne.org for whoever wants it |
| 18:43.08 | Corydon76-home | [TK]D-Fender: iptables -A INPUT -m tcp -p tcp --dport 25 -j DROP |
| 18:43.08 | [TK]D-Fender | Nugget : No... there's still Skype for the "wannabe"'s out there... |
| 18:43.40 | Chiardon | looking for jabber |
| 18:43.48 | [TK]D-Fender | Corydon76-home : that allows establish connections to continue right? |
| 18:44.01 | Corydon76-home | [TK]D-Fender: no |
| 18:45.06 | [TK]D-Fender | Corydon76-home : think I see... outgoing connection are ALWAYS considered in the "OUTPUT" chain then? |
| 18:45.22 | [TK]D-Fender | Connection direction, not PACKET direction? |
| 18:45.30 | Corydon76-home | [TK]D-Fender: tcp connections need packets to flow in both directions |
| 18:45.30 | *** join/#asterisk _cleric_ (n=dacleric@p54828E85.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 18:45.48 | Corydon76-home | [TK]D-Fender: so if you block one direction, you'll never get a TCP connection on that port |
| 18:46.07 | Corydon76-home | [TK]D-Fender: besides, outgoing email doesn't use port 25 to transmit |
| 18:46.07 | [TK]D-Fender | Corydon76-home : so what you pasted just stops incoming connections, not outgoing. |
| 18:46.09 | justinu | chiadron: download a jabber client... you can use GAIM. register an account with jabber.org |
| 18:46.20 | Corydon76-home | [TK]D-Fender: correct |
| 18:46.27 | *** part/#asterisk alephcom (n=alephcom@openbsd.hagenhomes.net) |
| 18:46.30 | [TK]D-Fender | Corydon76-home : Thanks for the quicky primer... |
| 18:46.37 | pifiu | hey cory i still cant get the email notification to work =( |
| 18:46.39 | [TK]D-Fender | going to look at my sendmail.conf |
| 18:47.20 | Corydon76-home | pifiu: you'll have to tweak on sendmail, probably, then |
| 18:47.35 | Corydon76-home | you mean sendmail.cf |
| 18:48.15 | Corydon76-home | I really wouldn't recommend editing sendmail.cf.... edit sendmail.mc and rebuild the cf from there |
| 18:48.19 | rob0 | <== allergic to sendmail.cf |
| 18:48.41 | r_evolution | <=== allergic to rob0 |
| 18:48.50 | Corydon76-home | sendmail.cf isn't impossible... just not recommended for newbies |
| 18:49.09 | pifiu | modifying it? |
| 18:49.16 | pifiu | lol i hope i didnt break anything |
| 18:49.32 | [TK]D-Fender | Corydon76-home : I vaguely remember there being a "compiler" for the cf file... |
| 18:49.44 | Corydon76-home | [TK]D-Fender: yeah, m4 |
| 18:49.51 | justinu | m4 rocks |
| 18:49.52 | pifiu | i had it working fine but just want to mess with this dual notification |
| 18:50.06 | [TK]D-Fender | Corydon76-home : damn I can't even find my sendmail.cf |
| 18:50.15 | Corydon76-home | [TK]D-Fender: /etc/mail ? |
| 18:50.34 | *** join/#asterisk miguellinux (n=miguel@64.76.202.18) |
| 18:51.14 | r_evolution | <===also allergic to our switch not sending my test calls to my * properly... :-\ |
| 18:51.28 | [TK]D-Fender | Corydon76-home : Ok, there it is, thanks. I'll stop asking about sendmail now and jsut stop reading. You suspect it'll work for sending VM's "out of the box" and by blocking port 25 that should get me running "safe" quick? |
| 18:51.45 | [TK]D-Fender | s/stop/start |
| 18:52.06 | justinu | my cat is harrasing me |
| 18:52.08 | trixter | close that regexp and jbot will repeat what you said with the correction :P |
| 18:52.21 | [TK]D-Fender | s/stop/start// |
| 18:52.25 | iDunno | I'd replace sendmail with exim or postfix and actually have a config that can be read. |
| 18:52.25 | pifiu | hey cory let me ask you something else then |
| 18:52.33 | r_evolution | if it makes you feel any better justin.. your cat is harrasing me too |
| 18:52.34 | trixter | s/jbot/botj/ |
| 18:52.36 | pifiu | how do i modify the way the message looks when it gets received? |
| 18:52.37 | trixter | :) |
| 18:52.44 | justinu | r_evolution: it's going to start sneezing on you now |
| 18:52.53 | r_evolution | :-\ |
| 18:52.55 | r_evolution | great. |
| 18:52.56 | r_evolution | cat snot. |
| 18:53.00 | justinu | hehe |
| 18:53.02 | pifiu | like the "from" because right now it says from root@localhost.locadomain |
| 18:53.07 | pifiu | people are likw wtf is root? |
| 18:53.18 | [TK]D-Fender | iDunno : I would if I understood any MTA and CARED :) I just want a program to send my VM's, faxes, and anything else I want to relay by scripts |
| 18:53.22 | justinu | the root of all evil |
| 18:53.56 | iDunno | erm - just use a small relay daemon then that talks to a real mailserver? |
| 18:53.58 | trixter | if absolute power corrupts absolutly why is my kernel not corrupted? |
| 18:54.02 | iDunno | like, oh ssmtp? |
| 18:54.27 | justinu | trixter: your kernel probably is corrupted, it's just hiding it from you |
| 18:54.36 | Nugget | yay starttls and smtp/ssl |
| 18:54.39 | r_evolution | no kidding... trick ones they are... |
| 18:54.46 | trixter | its hiding it quite well because its not crashing anything |
| 18:54.46 | [TK]D-Fender | iDunno : could be... I'm not knowledgeabl as to whats out there for this. |
| 18:54.52 | r_evolution | your kernel is probably also in league with the ubiquitous "THEY" |
| 18:55.02 | justinu | trixter: the most corrupted ones tend to pull it off pretty well ;) |
| 18:55.13 | Chiardon | justinu --> Just fell down... no D-channel.. and I get 0 bviol, 0 CRC and I get an "OK" status on allc onnected spans |
| 18:55.19 | r_evolution | <--- |
| 18:55.23 | Cresl1n | and finding one is almost like a mole hunt |
| 18:55.28 | Cresl1n | :-D |
| 18:56.22 | justinu | chiardon: wow... you've got a strange problem, for sure. |
| 18:57.10 | Chiardon | I know ... what do you think could be? |
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| 18:57.32 | Chiardon | Do you think this could be something related with me not able to use tor2 module? |
| 18:58.06 | justinu | chiardon: no ideal really... i'm thinking that you should probably turn on "pri intense debug", and wait until the D channel goes down. Then have someone at Digium take a look at it for you. Maybe they can shed some light. |
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| 18:58.43 | miguellinux | hi, somebody can dial me to my FWD account to test my asterisk? |
| 18:58.54 | r_evolution | whats your number miguel? |
| 18:59.11 | Chiardon | justinu --> I get however a notice on my cli... |
| 18:59.14 | miguellinux | hi r_evolution 456242 |
| 18:59.45 | pifiu | cory are you still there? |
| 18:59.49 | Chiardon | Notice: PRI got event: HDLC but FCS (8) on primary channel of span 1 |
| 18:59.50 | r_evolution | uhm |
| 18:59.52 | trixter | wow 800-free-411 answered then told me all circuits are busy, never heard that error before, guess its getting more popular since they do connect your call for free |
| 18:59.57 | r_evolution | spanish IVR? |
| 19:00.00 | trixter | at least if you pass cid |
| 19:00.02 | Chiardon | Chan under Zap.c:8171 PRI Under the channel |
| 19:00.02 | r_evolution | <---doesnt speak spanish fluently |
| 19:00.16 | r_evolution | <---pressed one |
| 19:00.17 | r_evolution | ring ring ring |
| 19:00.18 | Jedirl | <---- is spanish |
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| 19:00.19 | miguellinux | r_evolution, yes... thanks can you dial 46 when you get the IVR |
| 19:00.25 | r_evolution | k |
| 19:00.30 | justinu | chiardon: ask the digium guys if that means anything to them? |
| 19:00.33 | r_evolution | ringing |
| 19:00.40 | Chiardon | *BAD FCS |
| 19:00.49 | Chiardon | Any Digium Guys here? |
| 19:01.29 | ghento2 | Hi folks. I'm having trouble with Record(). If someone reaches that point in my extensions, and ends their message with #, it moves on to the next exten => (which is a systemc all that moves the .wav file). However, if I just hang up the phone, that next exten => System() is skipped |
| 19:02.36 | miguellinux | r_evolution, thanks... where you are? |
| 19:02.44 | r_evolution | Virginia... USA |
| 19:02.56 | miguellinux | r_evolution, great.. Lima, Peru |
| 19:03.04 | pifiu | wow wtf now, it sends the notifications as a picture message |
| 19:03.07 | r_evolution | ah. excellent :) |
| 19:03.30 | r_evolution | The only reason I even signed up for FWD to be honest is just to test my own settings on my * box to make sure I wasn't messing something up when trying to connect to our switch |
| 19:03.36 | r_evolution | obviously i'm not ;x |
| 19:04.31 | miguellinux | r_evolution, I would recommed to you my friends restaurant in Arlington, but I don't the name.. yet... heheeh, |
| 19:04.47 | Cresl1n | ghento2: do it in the h extension |
| 19:04.53 | Chiardon | Some idea about this: PRI got event: HDLC bad FCS (8) on primary channel of span 1 . . . Chan under Zap.c:8171 PRI Under the channel |
| 19:05.06 | justinu | chiardon: check this out: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2005-January/081231.html |
| 19:05.20 | r_evolution | ahh... I'm always in the mood for good food :-D |
| 19:05.56 | ghento2 | Cresl1n, thanks! will look into that |
| 19:06.05 | justinu | chiardon: bad FCS means that the HDLC frame was discarded |
| 19:06.08 | justinu | because it was corrupt |
| 19:06.26 | miguellinux | r_evolution, how you will connect your * to the PSTN? |
| 19:06.27 | r_evolution | so is your cat justin |
| 19:06.38 | justinu | with PRI, your D-channel runs on top of HDLC layer |
| 19:06.38 | r_evolution | right now I'm using a TDM02B |
| 19:06.49 | justinu | so if HDLC isn't transporting data correctly, the D channel goes down. |
| 19:07.15 | r_evolution | I'm working on making * register with our switch in order to provide a full voip connection down to the termination |
| 19:07.21 | justinu | generally, if you're getting HDLC errors, you either have a phsyical problem with the T1/E1 span, or there's some kind of problem with your hardware not being able to keep up, perhaps |
| 19:07.25 | r_evolution | but the switch isn't cooperating... at all... :-\ |
| 19:07.57 | justinu | what kind of switch |
| 19:08.13 | r_evolution | Emergent |
| 19:08.18 | r_evolution | Networks |
| 19:08.22 | r_evolution | i.e. ENTICE Softswitch |
| 19:08.35 | r_evolution | I can register... but calls both ways are failing |
| 19:08.39 | pifiu | in email notification can someone let me know why possible now my voicemail notification is coming in as a picture message instead of a sms message? |
| 19:08.48 | justinu | what response are they giving you when they fail? |
| 19:08.57 | r_evolution | incoming failing with no compatible codec..... outgoing failing with error 400 |
| 19:09.17 | r_evolution | the incoming is irking b/c it's SUPPOSED to be Gulaw |
| 19:09.21 | r_evolution | erm ulaw* |
| 19:09.41 | justinu | if you wanna paste the SIP debug, i'll take a look at them |
| 19:09.46 | justinu | see if I can grok any problems |
| 19:09.58 | r_evolution | [TK] and I were thinking it may be a problem in the switch... in which case i have to wait till monday i.e. when the switch monkeys get back in |
| 19:10.18 | ghento2 | hrm, not %d doesn't seem to be incrementing |
| 19:10.21 | r_evolution | sure give me a second to finish what im doing and ill do that in a PM |
| 19:10.22 | ghento2 | now |
| 19:10.31 | r_evolution | thx btw |
| 19:10.51 | [TK]D-Fender|AFK | justinu : Bad codec. I'm suspecting the descriptor doesn't match |
| 19:10.57 | justinu | r_evolution: pastebin.com |
| 19:11.06 | miguellinux | and using a provider instead your own switch? |
| 19:11.10 | *** join/#asterisk sulex (n=sulex@pdpc/supporter/active/sulex) |
| 19:11.18 | r_evolution | correct miguel |
| 19:16.25 | *** join/#asterisk Naturalblue (n=Kay@195.26.12.229) |
| 19:16.26 | *** join/#asterisk Reverend (n=owned@68-169-204-147.agstme.adelphia.net) |
| 19:16.41 | Reverend | hi all |
| 19:17.02 | miguellinux | r_evolution, if it is not too much inconvinient, how much is fair to pay for PSTN termination and reception? in cents per minute? |
| 19:17.22 | justinu | maybe 2-3 cents if your volume is low |
| 19:18.05 | miguellinux | ok.. but.. is still expensive... comparing with voipjet... |
| 19:18.13 | *** join/#asterisk aNaSTaCia_geBeri (n=PTLiNk@88.224.160.79) |
| 19:18.25 | justinu | wholesale rates are near 1/3rd of a cent |
| 19:18.36 | justinu | to 2 cents, depending on where you call |
| 19:18.37 | pifiu | question: |
| 19:18.50 | pifiu | how can I check in the CLI to see if someone is using the phone before i reload asterisk? |
| 19:18.55 | pifiu | im using IAX |
| 19:18.57 | miguellinux | which provider do you recommed? with IAX, GSM codecs... |
| 19:19.25 | miguellinux | pifiu, you can type show iax2 channels |
| 19:19.36 | justinu | or just show channels |
| 19:19.49 | wunderkin | mv /dev/justinu/cheap-minutes /dev/me |
| 19:19.50 | justinu | miguellinux: maybe junctionnetworks |
| 19:20.17 | justinu | wunderkin: i'm trying to get my people to offer that service |
| 19:20.30 | wunderkin | have your people call my people and we'll have lunch.. haha.. :P |
| 19:20.46 | miguellinux | something like www.myvoiprovider.com |
| 19:21.00 | miguellinux | with comparsion charts |
| 19:21.00 | pifiu | ok perfect |
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| 19:21.29 | Reverend | i have 3 licenses for g729 from digium... if all 3 are in use, the calls fail instead of going to a different codec? can this be fixed without having to buy a more licenses for g729a? |
| 19:21.58 | Reverend | i would like it to go to gsm if all 3 g729 licenses are used |
| 19:22.10 | justinu | i don't think the codec negotiation is that advanced, but I may be wrong |
| 19:22.19 | mog_home | it isnt unfortunately |
| 19:22.30 | Reverend | i have allow g729, gsm, ulaw, alaw... |
| 19:22.36 | Reverend | thats a bummer |
| 19:22.51 | mog_home | but its only software |
| 19:22.55 | mog_home | someone could make it happen |
| 19:22.58 | mog_home | it just doesnt now |
| 19:23.01 | Reverend | well, dangit, someone here fix it ! |
| 19:23.19 | mog_home | i dont think that is best way to make it happen.... |
| 19:23.26 | justinu | mog: that does seem like it would be a fairly easy patch |
| 19:23.35 | Reverend | i was kidding, lol |
| 19:23.53 | mog_home | no it wouldnt justinu |
| 19:24.03 | mog_home | but like all things happen in time |
| 19:24.04 | justinu | check the number of remaining g729 licenses remaining before offering g729 as a codec |
| 19:24.31 | justinu | mog: it wouldn't be an easy patch? |
| 19:24.59 | mog_home | i dont think there is right now any easy way to do that |
| 19:25.01 | mog_home | err wait |
| 19:25.04 | mog_home | there is |
| 19:25.08 | Reverend | ! |
| 19:25.31 | mog_home | well it wouldnt take that long, but /me isnt doing it today |
| 19:25.31 | Reverend | can i just hack my licenses to have unlimited? |
| 19:25.36 | Reverend | :-o |
| 19:25.37 | mog_home | you could |
| 19:25.43 | mog_home | but you would be stealing from me |
| 19:25.48 | mog_home | and that makes me a sad panda |
| 19:25.54 | Reverend | lol |
| 19:26.03 | pifiu | is there any other file that lets you edit what comes up in email notification? for some odd reason the message i am getting does not match whats on voicemail.conf |
| 19:26.04 | justinu | r_evolution: problems with my pm's |
| 19:26.16 | *** join/#asterisk svenna_ (n=svenna@p548D429A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 19:26.31 | mog_home | you might have a syntax error pifiu |
| 19:26.50 | Reverend | mog_home, who are you? |
| 19:26.53 | justinu | mog: isn't it actually stealing from the g729 "patent holder"? |
| 19:27.01 | mog_home | well |
| 19:27.03 | justinu | unless you're that patent holder |
| 19:27.06 | mog_home | if digium get sued |
| 19:27.11 | justinu | yes, of course |
| 19:27.19 | mog_home | because we didnt uphold our end of licensing agreement |
| 19:27.22 | mog_home | im out of work |
| 19:27.31 | Reverend | mog_home are you with digium? |
| 19:27.38 | mog_home | yes Reverend |
| 19:27.44 | Reverend | ah kewl |
| 19:27.55 | pifiu | mog home, where can i check that? |
| 19:28.09 | justinu | r_evolution: you there? |
| 19:28.17 | mog_home | the voicemail.conf, valid syntax is in voicemail.conf.sample |
| 19:29.10 | r_evolution | yeah im just on a few different systems :) |
| 19:29.10 | *** join/#asterisk ke4qqq (n=ke4qqq@srv.fgp.com) |
| 19:30.30 | pifiu | i dont seem to have a voicemail.conf.sample |
| 19:30.32 | justinu | what do you all you linuxheads recommend for a journaling filesystem? |
| 19:30.47 | mog_home | good old stable ext3 |
| 19:30.48 | justinu | i don't want to have to fsck on this box if it shutdowns suddently |
| 19:31.02 | mog_home | pifiu its in your asterisk source under configs |
| 19:31.08 | justinu | is ext3 journaling? |
| 19:31.48 | mog_home | yes |
| 19:31.54 | justinu | by default? |
| 19:31.56 | mog_home | yes |
| 19:31.59 | justinu | hmph |
| 19:31.59 | mog_home | ext2 is not |
| 19:32.02 | sulex | xfs? |
| 19:32.05 | pifiu | hmm ok sorry mog im getting the hand of this, let me check |
| 19:32.11 | mog_home | no problem |
| 19:32.13 | justinu | i liked xfs back when I used to run IRIX |
| 19:32.51 | justinu | is there a way I can deliberatly test ext3's resilience to unclean shutdowns? |
| 19:32.58 | justinu | besides just pulling the plug on the box |
| 19:33.29 | mog_home | i have never had an ext3 die on me |
| 19:33.34 | mog_home | i had xfs once back in 99 |
| 19:33.39 | mog_home | havent trusted it sense |
| 19:33.46 | justinu | it's never needed an fsck to mount in read/write mode? |
| 19:33.49 | mog_home | but ext3 isnt fastes but it wont ever crap out on you |
| 19:34.02 | mog_home | well after 30 mounts or whatever it reccomends one |
| 19:34.06 | mog_home | but you never need one |
| 19:34.38 | justinu | so you're telling me that if I stay with ext3, there's very little chance this machine will fail to start in multi-user mode? |
| 19:34.50 | mog_home | yes |
| 19:34.53 | justinu | ok, cool |
| 19:34.57 | mog_home | i have only had it happen once |
| 19:35.02 | mog_home | and it was a bad cmos battery |
| 19:35.02 | justinu | i'm a solaris guy |
| 19:35.08 | mog_home | once i got it all fixed it was fine |
| 19:35.14 | mog_home | yeah ext3 is the rockbead |
| 19:35.17 | mog_home | err bed |
| 19:35.22 | justinu | getting back into linux again after 10 years |
| 19:35.30 | mog_home | xfs and reiserfs are newer stuff thats better b |
| 19:35.37 | mog_home | but i only trust ext3 myself |
| 19:35.43 | justinu | nod |
| 19:36.03 | mog_home | i mean they are faster but ext3 always boots |
| 19:36.17 | mog_home | and if journalling some how gets messed up you can mount ext3 as ext2 raw |
| 19:36.30 | mog_home | which means no matter what you can get the data off |
| 19:36.41 | Katty | mew. |
| 19:36.55 | mog_home | aside from beating drive with a hammer |
| 19:37.15 | mog_home | really msw i would have assumed you guys to be reiser |
| 19:37.28 | justinu | anyone else have any opinions on this? |
| 19:37.29 | mog_home | you guys usually are on cutting edge |
| 19:37.34 | justinu | ext3 vs. reiser vs. xfs |
| 19:37.38 | msw | mog_home: no way |
| 19:38.53 | msw | mog_home: not after working with sct and seeing the rigorous work that sct et al do on ext3 |
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| 19:40.22 | mog_home | what kind of nick is r0d3nt|m .... |
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| 19:40.59 | dogtanian | an annoying one |
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| 19:41.11 | viperdude | hi |
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| 19:42.01 | viperdude | anyone around to help me with a voicemail problem? |
| 19:42.13 | justinu | i think i'll write a simple shell script to write a bunch of files to the filesystem, and start pulling the power cord while it's running. |
| 19:42.27 | justinu | test out ex3's resilience to unclean shutdowns. |
| 19:42.47 | r0d3nt|m | you mean lack of... |
| 19:43.08 | iDunno | sounds like insanity to me :) |
| 19:43.09 | justinu | so the r0dent isn't a fan of ext3? |
| 19:43.24 | justinu | iDunno: i asked you to chime in |
| 19:43.28 | mog_home | okies |
| 19:43.40 | r0d3nt|m | mog_home, EAD (tm) |
| 19:43.41 | iDunno | did you? |
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| 19:43.51 | justinu | [11:37] justinu: anyone else have any opinions on this? |
| 19:43.57 | justinu | [11:37] justinu: ext3 vs. reiser vs. xfs |
| 19:44.04 | justinu | you're included in "anyone else" :P |
| 19:44.05 | iDunno | ahh - missed that ;) |
| 19:44.06 | r0d3nt|m | those lines didn't make it... |
| 19:44.20 | r0d3nt|m | someone has some packetloss. |
| 19:44.28 | iDunno | I've had some bad luck with ext3, and xfs has been far more forgiving for me. |
| 19:44.28 | justinu | um, it was before you joined. |
| 19:45.04 | Chiardon | justinu . . it looks the same problem . . and we are going for the same solution rigth now . . just chanching the *Box server!! |
| 19:45.05 | mog_home | ead? |
| 19:45.11 | iDunno | it probably wasn't, I just didn't go that far back in scroll back ;) |
| 19:45.17 | justinu | chiardon: hardware problems suck :( |
| 19:45.30 | justinu | idunno: no, before r0dent joined i think |
| 19:45.43 | iDunno | ajj |
| 19:45.50 | justinu | so I have mog voting against xfs, and Idunno voting against ext3 |
| 19:45.50 | iDunno | erm - ahh. |
| 19:45.57 | justinu | what to do, what to do.... |
| 19:45.58 | Qwell | I vote against both |
| 19:46.09 | justinu | and what does the mighty qwell suggest? |
| 19:46.12 | Qwell | xfs |
| 19:46.12 | mog_home | what Qwell |
| 19:46.16 | Qwell | :D |
| 19:46.16 | iDunno | I think that everyone will agree that reiserfs is just evil and wrong and shouldn'tbe used at all ;) |
| 19:46.19 | mog_home | how can you go against ext3 |
| 19:46.24 | Qwell | mog_home: I can't :p |
| 19:46.26 | mog_home | yes iDunno |
| 19:46.36 | justinu | qwell: you said you vote against both |
| 19:46.40 | justinu | then you say xfs |
| 19:46.45 | Qwell | justinu: uh huh |
| 19:46.46 | mog_home | ext3 is the bedrock of filesystems |
| 19:46.51 | sulex | xfs++ |
| 19:46.51 | iDunno | mog_home: having had ext3 drop everything in lost+found at me on more than one occassion, I don't trust it ;) |
| 19:47.00 | justinu | qwell: would you mind clarifying that? |
| 19:47.02 | Qwell | real men use fat12 as their / partition |
| 19:47.08 | Qwell | justinu: humor |
| 19:47.13 | justinu | heh, ok |
| 19:47.18 | iDunno | heh |
| 19:47.42 | mog_home | i have never had any problem with ext3 |
| 19:47.51 | mog_home | i did however have xfs eat a partition once |
| 19:48.04 | justinu | is there a way to convert from ext3 to xfs, or is it reinstall time? |
| 19:48.11 | iDunno | mog_home: yeah - xfs has stabalised rather a lot over the last couple of years, though. |
| 19:48.26 | sulex | last mainly |
| 19:48.32 | r_evolution | hey justin |
| 19:48.34 | r_evolution | you getting my PMs? |
| 19:48.38 | r_evolution | everything works now ;x |
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| 19:48.50 | pifiu | mog dude this shit is confusing++ |
| 19:48.57 | mog_home | sorries |
| 19:49.55 | M-I-A- | Hey mog_home! |
| 19:50.03 | r_evolution | yeah yeah... i deserve it |
| 19:50.31 | justinu | codec mismatches can be frustrating for the * n00b ;) |
| 19:50.32 | M-I-A- | mog I have done some more investigating |
| 19:50.35 | Qwell | justinu: come buy me lunch today :p |
| 19:50.40 | justinu | qwell: why? |
| 19:50.44 | Qwell | umm, dunno |
| 19:50.50 | r_evolution | no kidding... especially when it was SUPPOSED to be ulaw |
| 19:50.54 | justinu | i was supposed to go to long beach to install this PBX |
| 19:51.00 | justinu | but the d00d flaked on me, i guess |
| 19:51.04 | Qwell | where at in LB? |
| 19:51.12 | justinu | right at the catalina ferry terminal |
| 19:51.17 | r_evolution | i'd go install it anyway... and charge double for having to break into the office |
| 19:51.22 | Qwell | so, downtown? |
| 19:51.32 | justinu | yeah, right in the marina there |
| 19:51.42 | justinu | golden shore dr. |
| 19:51.49 | Qwell | by the vincent thomas? |
| 19:51.59 | justinu | a little further south |
| 19:52.09 | justinu | you need to cross over both those big bridges |
| 19:52.24 | justinu | it's like right near the queen mary |
| 19:52.31 | Qwell | yeah, okay |
| 19:52.54 | Qwell | it's funny how we use something that's in the water as a marker :p |
| 19:52.59 | justinu | heh |
| 19:53.27 | Qwell | so...go smack him :p |
| 19:53.38 | Qwell | I'm with r_evolution |
| 19:53.45 | justinu | lol |
| 19:53.52 | justinu | their t1 isn't even installed yet |
| 19:53.53 | r_evolution | see i have good ideas |
| 19:53.57 | r_evolution | so? |
| 19:54.00 | r_evolution | install it |
| 19:54.03 | r_evolution | ;x |
| 19:54.08 | r_evolution | either that... or just set everything up |
| 19:54.09 | r_evolution | and be like |
| 19:54.10 | r_evolution | look |
| 19:54.11 | justinu | we're waiting for silly verizon to get their shit together. |
| 19:54.12 | r_evolution | it should work |
| 19:54.18 | r_evolution | that's double for making me break into your office |
| 19:54.22 | justinu | lol |
| 19:54.26 | r_evolution | another XXXXX for the lawyer fees |
| 19:54.28 | h3x | jfs !!! |
| 19:54.38 | r_evolution | and ANOTHER 1000$ for my not being able to test it because you werent ready! |
| 19:54.49 | justinu | w00h00 another vote for something other than ext3 |
| 19:55.02 | h3x | actualyl i started using xfs on irix back in 95 or so |
| 19:55.09 | pifiu | you see this is why i dont understand this voicemai.conf |
| 19:55.14 | justinu | yeah... it was teh shizzle back then |
| 19:55.19 | pifiu | in the sample it has exactly what i want, yet it doesnt work |
| 19:55.19 | pifiu | ;4200 => 9855,Mark Spencer,markster@linux-support.net,mypager@digium.com,attach=no|serveremail=myaddy@digium.com|tz=central|maxmsg=10 |
| 19:55.21 | h3x | its always been really stable |
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| 19:55.35 | justinu | irix was sure a nice unix to work on |
| 19:55.36 | pifiu | he has a desktop email and a cellphone notification |
| 19:55.39 | justinu | great admin tools |
| 19:55.43 | justinu | rock solid |
| 19:55.45 | h3x | yeah it was so pretty |
| 19:55.50 | h3x | but it was like a hot girlfriend |
| 19:55.50 | justinu | totally insecure tho :P |
| 19:55.53 | h3x | exploitable |
| 19:55.58 | justinu | lol |
| 19:56.14 | viperdude | hi are there any sipgate users here? |
| 19:56.14 | h3x | probably molested by its father as a child |
| 19:56.15 | h3x | you know |
| 19:56.17 | r0d3nt | sounds like you're dating the wrong hot girls. |
| 19:57.02 | h3x | dating? |
| 19:57.06 | h3x | h0h0h0 |
| 19:57.19 | r_evolution | who dates these days? :-\ |
| 19:57.24 | r_evolution | you go out |
| 19:57.25 | r_evolution | you get laid |
| 19:57.27 | r_evolution | you say |
| 19:57.30 | r_evolution | GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY HOUSE |
| 19:57.33 | r_evolution | and you roll on |
| 19:57.37 | h3x | what do you say if you are at her house |
| 19:57.38 | r0d3nt | nice gentlemen. |
| 19:57.44 | r_evolution | you sneak out quietly |
| 19:57.48 | h3x | oh yeah |
| 19:57.53 | r_evolution | you know... the mornings where you wake up |
| 19:57.54 | r_evolution | and say |
| 19:57.56 | M-I-A- | lol |
| 19:57.58 | r_evolution | fuck... i drank too much |
| 19:57.59 | justinu | i'm engaged, so that shit's over for me |
| 19:57.59 | r_evolution | *roll over* |
| 19:58.01 | r_evolution | OH SHIT!! |
| 19:58.12 | r_evolution | *grab pants... shirt... shoes... keys... wallet... cell... etc.* |
| 19:58.15 | h3x | justinu: Nah that just means you have to be more sneaky now |
| 19:58.19 | r0d3nt | and you have 2 tons of fun sitting next to you... |
| 19:58.31 | r_evolution | negative... i retain SOME standards even when im drunk |
| 19:58.35 | RaYmAn-Bx | viperdude: I use it..when it works..It's been rather crap lately |
| 19:58.38 | r_evolution | just the whole sanity standard flies out the window |
| 19:58.41 | justinu | h3x: actually, i think it's part of the prenup that I get to cheat no more than 3 times, or something :P |
| 19:58.46 | h3x | haha |
| 19:58.58 | r_evolution | hence why I ended up with a girl who later jumped me for not talking to her for two weeks |
| 19:59.03 | r_evolution | after we only slept together like... twice |
| 19:59.11 | r_evolution | and she SO initiated the first time |
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| 19:59.21 | r_evolution | then three weeks later |
| 19:59.29 | justinu | probably feeling guilty for being such a h0 |
| 19:59.31 | r_evolution | bam. YOU &#@*^$ ILL #()$*# KILL YOU!! *punch punch* |
| 19:59.41 | r0d3nt | </drama> |
| 19:59.49 | r_evolution | too bad she didnt feel guilty for punching me =\ |
| 19:59.50 | r0d3nt | isnt this #asterisk ? |
| 19:59.54 | r_evolution | no. |
| 19:59.55 | r0d3nt | i had no idea it was #emo |
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| 20:00.01 | r_evolution | haha. |
| 20:00.06 | r_evolution | psst |
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| 20:00.24 | r0d3nt | jump! |
| 20:00.39 | r_evolution | lolol |
| 20:00.46 | r_evolution | ytmnd. |
| 20:00.50 | r_evolution | emo song. |
| 20:00.52 | r_evolution | 'nuf said |
| 20:01.07 | h3x | all of this shit because of irix. |
| 20:01.17 | h3x | see |
| 20:01.48 | r_evolution | *nod* |
| 20:02.02 | M-I-A- | anyone wanna help me with a TDM400p question? |
| 20:02.07 | r_evolution | eh. I take it you missed the porn convo and the idea that all men are some what gay |
| 20:02.31 | r_evolution | ask M-I-A... someone is bound to have your answer |
| 20:02.33 | h3x | dude, i worked a booth at a porn convention |
| 20:02.44 | h3x | back in like 2001 |
| 20:02.49 | r_evolution | you're so my hero. |
| 20:03.14 | M-I-A- | r_evolution - Here is my setup SIP hardphone <-> Internal 10/100 Switch <-> Asterisk <-> TDM400P <-> PSTN.. Now when using ztmonitor -vv I am watching the rx and tx as i am having a conversation and when I speak the tx goes up and the rx goes to 0.. causes and very awful conversation.. Anyone have a suggestion? |
| 20:03.27 | h3x | yeah this company i was working for, well i got the task of running the big ass canvas printer |
| 20:03.33 | h3x | and i got black ink all over my hand |
| 20:03.59 | h3x | i ended up fingering this chick later and she woke up with a black pussy |
| 20:04.01 | h3x | that ruled |
| 20:04.01 | r_evolution | yeah... you asked that earlier... that's still a good one... i don't know the answer... |
| 20:04.08 | r_evolution | O_o |
| 20:04.10 | M-I-A- | :( |
| 20:04.39 | M-I-A- | At least it's a good question i guess :) hehhe |
| 20:04.55 | r_evolution | no doubt... have you called digium? or checked with one of their guys? |
| 20:04.59 | r_evolution | where did you get the card? |
| 20:05.00 | justinu | this looks nice: http://ltp.sourceforge.net/ |
| 20:05.25 | M-I-A- | does the same thing with two different cards... |
| 20:05.41 | M-I-A- | TDM400p and TDM2400 |
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| 20:08.09 | Lots | hey all I was just curious what flavor of linux does asterisk work the best on? or are they all about the same? |
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| 20:08.28 | r_evolution | here comes... the distro debate. |
| 20:08.33 | M-I-A- | lmao |
| 20:08.39 | justinu | lol |
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| 20:08.41 | sulex | lol, debian++ |
| 20:08.45 | justinu | centos :P |
| 20:08.53 | M-I-A- | this chan should have a bot that could play back a previous debate... lol |
| 20:08.57 | Lots | well i'm fairly familiar with debian, so just curious if i should just go with that. |
| 20:08.59 | r_evolution | it's like... DEBIAN!! *smack smack* GENTOO!! *SMACK SMACK* centos! *smack smack* |
| 20:09.05 | r_evolution | i'm using debian lots. |
| 20:09.06 | r_evolution | ... |
| 20:09.07 | r_evolution | wait |
| 20:09.09 | r_evolution | that sounds weird |
| 20:09.15 | Lots | lol |
| 20:09.18 | r_evolution | I'm using Debian. Lots. Try that. |
| 20:09.22 | Lots | heh |
| 20:09.35 | justinu | debian seemed neat about 5 years ago.... haven't kept up tho |
| 20:09.37 | Lots | r-eveloution did you have to compile it or does debian have a package for asterisk? |
| 20:09.43 | r_evolution | i compiled it |
| 20:09.45 | M-I-A- | lots: centos works for me |
| 20:09.47 | r_evolution | i think it DOES have a package |
| 20:09.54 | r_evolution | but it's not a big ordeal |
| 20:09.55 | justinu | you really oughta build it yourself |
| 20:09.58 | r_evolution | to go with the compile |
| 20:10.03 | justinu | it doesn't long |
| 20:10.07 | r_evolution | www.asteriskguru.com |
| 20:10.10 | Lots | r_evolution, cool what do u use asterisk for? |
| 20:10.14 | justinu | unless you're using a 60MHz Pentium |
| 20:10.19 | r_evolution | ;x justin |
| 20:10.44 | r_evolution | it's going to be a replacement for the existing pbx in the office i feel like i live in |
| 20:10.59 | r_evolution | cut down costs about $6,000 per month |
| 20:11.14 | lesouvage | Is it possible to run two asterisk servers with each its own FWD account onfigured within one lan? |
| 20:11.16 | r_evolution | not to mention the whole thing of buying a badly needed new pbx for... oh say 20Gs |
| 20:11.18 | Lots | r_eveloution will you office just be using a sip termination / orgination service? |
| 20:11.30 | justinu | r_evolution: what are you replacing? |
| 20:11.33 | r_evolution | nah we have our own switch |
| 20:11.35 | r_evolution | uhhh Comdial? |
| 20:11.37 | lesouvage | Ans have the fwd accounts both up and running. |
| 20:12.05 | Lots | r_evolution have you had much experience with termination / origination services? are they pretty reliable? |
| 20:12.06 | justinu | i'm considering getting into the IP Centrex business. |
| 20:12.21 | r_evolution | no i have not Lots... but I don't believe in having just one method |
| 20:12.29 | r_evolution | hence the reason we plan to keep one of our Voice T1s |
| 20:12.34 | r_evolution | and install a digital card in the * box |
| 20:12.46 | justinu | btw, ETN.fm rocks |
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| 20:12.53 | r_evolution | in case the switch DOES go down... |
| 20:12.57 | justinu | find it under the electronica category in iTunes radio |
| 20:12.58 | r_evolution | then we still have 24 channels |
| 20:13.14 | r_evolution | aw i like justin more now... just because he said electronica and not techno |
| 20:13.18 | Lots | evolution cool, i've been hooking my clients up with hosted ip-pbx solutions, those have worked well, but i think i could make some extra cash by integrating a asterisk pbx abd a termination/origination service. |
| 20:13.27 | justinu | this is a "trance" feed |
| 20:13.33 | r_evolution | :( trance :( |
| 20:13.37 | justinu | 192kbps tho |
| 20:13.39 | r_evolution | :-D jungle :-D |
| 20:13.46 | justinu | i never got into jungle much |
| 20:13.59 | justinu | always liked stuff with lots of vocal hooks |
| 20:14.04 | justinu | like PvD |
| 20:14.07 | justinu | tiesto |
| 20:14.17 | r_evolution | ever listened to Infusion? |
| 20:14.23 | Lots | has anyone used that asterisk windows port? i forgot the name of it.. |
| 20:14.24 | justinu | not knowingly |
| 20:14.29 | r_evolution | Progressive... one of the only progressive groups i can dig on |
| 20:14.42 | r_evolution | my ex got me into them b/c her new boy is a progressive DJ |
| 20:14.54 | r_evolution | which is funny b/c she went from me who is all jungle and gabber ... to a guy who is all aboutprogressive |
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| 20:15.04 | r_evolution | uhh you use slsk justin? |
| 20:15.24 | justinu | no |
| 20:15.26 | justinu | should I? |
| 20:15.30 | r_evolution | soulseek... |
| 20:15.31 | Chiardon | justinu . . . Hi |
| 20:15.33 | r_evolution | if you DL mp3s... |
| 20:15.47 | justinu | i'm an MP3 snob |
| 20:15.51 | justinu | i only want high bitrate stuff |
| 20:16.02 | r_evolution | well slsk shows the bitrate |
| 20:16.02 | justinu | 192kbps is like the bare minimum |
| 20:16.07 | r_evolution | and i've got a few FLACs so... |
| 20:16.08 | justinu | 192kbps VBR is pretty decent |
| 20:16.14 | r_evolution | http://oink.me.k |
| 20:16.18 | r_evolution | .uk* |
| 20:16.24 | r_evolution | 192 is the min allowed |
| 20:16.25 | r_evolution | torrent site |
| 20:16.33 | justinu | nice |
| 20:16.40 | r_evolution | usually I go for 192 - 256 |
| 20:16.44 | r_evolution | a few FLAC albums |
| 20:16.58 | justinu | uh-oh |
| 20:17.00 | justinu | OiNK.me.uk is temporarily offline (both site and tracker). |
| 20:17.00 | justinu | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:17.01 | justinu | When the site returns, sadly there will be some data loss, possibly substantial. |
| 20:17.07 | r_evolution | boo |
| 20:17.36 | justinu | Chiardon: what's up? |
| 20:18.33 | Sedorox | Has anyone used a Blackberry 7270 with asterisk yet? |
| 20:18.45 | justinu | qwell: how far are you from LBC? |
| 20:18.52 | Qwell | justinu: ~25 miles |
| 20:19.00 | justinu | maybe lunch tomorow? |
| 20:19.09 | justinu | i'll probably be down that way |
| 20:19.10 | Qwell | I don't drive, heh |
| 20:19.24 | justinu | what city is it exactly that I'd be picking you up in? |
| 20:19.27 | r_evolution | <---doesnt drive either :( |
| 20:19.37 | justinu | how can you live in LA and not drive? |
| 20:19.40 | Qwell | justinu: another time perhaps. gonna be busy before ETel |
| 20:19.46 | justinu | yeah yeah |
| 20:19.47 | Qwell | justinu: wouldn't YOU like to know? ;] |
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| 20:19.54 | justinu | well, i think it's covina |
| 20:20.04 | Qwell | East West Covina, according to the pennysaver |
| 20:20.09 | justinu | lol |
| 20:20.17 | h3x | how can you live in LA, drive, and not get in a wreck ? |
| 20:20.23 | Qwell | yeah...I thought that was funny too. We just moved here, and got one the other day |
| 20:20.29 | justinu | i've managed to avoid them for 10+ years |
| 20:20.44 | Qwell | justinu: but really though...my wife drives. :p |
| 20:20.44 | h3x | teflon coated car? |
| 20:20.58 | justinu | no, i just know how to drive properly |
| 20:21.10 | h3x | it aint you thats the problem |
| 20:21.12 | h3x | its all the other crazy people |
| 20:21.13 | justinu | i used to ride motorcycles too, and you learn how to be very cautious |
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| 20:21.25 | justinu | yeah, no kidding... |
| 20:21.25 | Qwell | I need to get a motorcycle |
| 20:21.41 | justinu | you live enough outside the city that you could probably really enjoy one |
| 20:22.04 | Qwell | it'd be just to avoid traffic |
| 20:22.11 | justinu | oh, be careful then |
| 20:22.12 | Qwell | you probably know, but traffic is just horrible |
| 20:22.17 | justinu | riding in the city is dangerous |
| 20:22.25 | Qwell | I work 11 miles away... right down the 10 fwy the whole way |
| 20:22.32 | Qwell | 45-60 minutes to get home some nights |
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| 20:22.42 | Qwell | whether I take the fwy or side streets |
| 20:22.43 | justinu | heh, my commute is about 9 minutes, and it can take 45 minutes as well |
| 20:22.55 | justinu | but luckily i have to go in once a week tops |
| 20:22.58 | Qwell | meh |
| 20:25.10 | inv_Arp | Qwell: *nix administrator? |
| 20:25.18 | Qwell | inv_Arp: not even close |
| 20:25.33 | justinu | l337 c0d3r |
| 20:25.34 | inv_Arp | i didnt even knew you worked |
| 20:25.37 | Qwell | Windows programmer :p |
| 20:25.45 | inv_Arp | hah |
| 20:25.48 | Qwell | indeed |
| 20:25.50 | justinu | i once wrote some win32 apps |
| 20:25.57 | justinu | WaitForMultipleObjects(); |
| 20:25.57 | Qwell | but, I'm doing mostly * at work now |
| 20:26.06 | justinu | that's about all I can remember |
| 20:26.09 | r_evolution | qwell!! heretic :( |
| 20:26.15 | Qwell | r_evolution: it pays the bills |
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| 20:26.33 | r_evolution | that's what a friend of mine says when i give him shit for using windows and asp.net etc |
| 20:26.39 | inv_Arp | wheres the Qwell [work] tag |
| 20:26.44 | r_evolution | "Your OS may work better... my OS pays more" |
| 20:26.50 | r_evolution | d'oh. |
| 20:26.51 | Qwell | inv_Arp: [] is multiple things |
| 20:26.53 | justinu | tell him to be a man and learn java |
| 20:27.07 | Qwell | Qwell[LB], Qwell[work], Qwell[bathroom] |
| 20:27.08 | r_evolution | haha why? he's getting like 10Gs a month now |
| 20:27.24 | r_evolution | my ex is learning java for her first language |
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| 20:27.33 | justinu | r_evolution: it's not worth the extra money, even if you did end up making more |
| 20:27.37 | Qwell | justinu: should have actually setup that PBX in LB a few weeks ago...I was down there every weekend |
| 20:27.41 | r_evolution | when we were together... she wanted to be in Commerce... |
| 20:27.43 | justinu | java is not the best idea for your first language |
| 20:27.46 | r_evolution | now she wants to geek out |
| 20:28.02 | r_evolution | eh. she's doing alright... her current boy and I field a lot of various questions |
| 20:28.09 | r_evolution | he's trying to get her off windoze... |
| 20:28.17 | justinu | i think java can make you sloppy |
| 20:28.19 | justinu | like perl |
| 20:28.22 | Qwell | php |
| 20:28.22 | r_evolution | i think he's leaning towards fedora tho... i'm like DEBIN DEBIAN! |
| 20:28.37 | justinu | you end up writing bad code, and making the language itself look bad |
| 20:28.53 | Qwell | I had to port some ungodly ugly perl a few months ago...ugh |
| 20:28.53 | r_evolution | eh. I think it's just in learning to be efficient |
| 20:29.11 | iDunno | fedora is just wrong. |
| 20:29.18 | Qwell | took those SOBs like 4 hours to run these scripts...when I got done, it took about 12 minutes to run |
| 20:29.18 | r_evolution | ^ |
| 20:29.21 | iDunno | no one should use it. it is the spawn of satan. |
| 20:29.37 | r_evolution | iDunno = my new best friend |
| 20:29.37 | iDunno | as is centos, that's the spawn of satan too. |
| 20:29.38 | r_evolution | <iDunno> fedora is just wrong. |
| 20:29.47 | iDunno | :) |
| 20:29.50 | justinu | what's wrong with CentOS? |
| 20:30.09 | justinu | convince me to install another distro on this PBX :P |
| 20:30.24 | iDunno | it's an rpm based distro, it's got subtle irritating issues, and it pisses me off ;) |
| 20:30.36 | justinu | heh |
| 20:30.48 | justinu | i can still compile code on it |
| 20:30.51 | iDunno | they need java to compile... |
| 20:31.09 | iDunno | java on centos *properly* is an annoying amount of work. |
| 20:31.14 | Cresl1n | justinu: it's redhat, that's what's wrong |
| 20:31.29 | iDunno | also: building rpms is evil. |
| 20:31.31 | Cresl1n | justinu: and usually when people run centos, it means they're running asterisk at home |
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| 20:31.51 | Cresl1n | justinu: which is another source of headaches |
| 20:34.06 | iDunno | give 'em back! |
| 20:34.11 | r_evolution | :-D |
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| 20:36.56 | r_evolution | :-D |
| 20:37.36 | r_evolution | thas right... love the udp!!! |
| 20:38.16 | justinu | i dunno, i haven't had any issues with CentOS yet |
| 20:38.25 | Sedorox | would ulaw <-> g729 cause some jumpyness in the call? |
| 20:38.26 | justinu | UDP sucks, SCTP is the future |
| 20:38.31 | Sedorox | or htink it could be wifi |
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| 20:42.52 | ke4qqq | hey guys, can anyone help me with a te210p problem |
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| 20:44.06 | Qwell | ke4qqq: ask away |
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| 20:45.49 | ke4qqq | Qwell: installed per the Digium/wiki docs, all of the alarms go off on both the te210p, and the telcos end, and yet nothing is getting through....so I have missed something simple, I think..... |
| 20:46.15 | justinu | PRI? |
| 20:46.32 | r_evolution | *dancedance* |
| 20:46.51 | ke4qqq | CAS |
| 20:46.51 | justinu | so I found a filesystem stress tester |
| 20:47.05 | Qwell | justinu: dd? |
| 20:47.05 | watchy | can you set a default ring for a 7960? |
| 20:47.05 | Qwell | :D |
| 20:47.07 | justinu | i'm gonna stress each type of fs, and pull the plug on the box a few times |
| 20:47.13 | Qwell | watchy: yes, in the settings I think |
| 20:47.23 | justinu | find out which one takes the most abuse :) |
| 20:47.27 | watchy | sipdefault/sipmac? |
| 20:47.37 | justinu | ke4qqq: E&M Wink start? |
| 20:47.37 | Qwell | justinu: fyi...that won't be a good test |
| 20:47.42 | justinu | why not? |
| 20:47.49 | Qwell | If you're gonna pull the power anywhere, pull it directly from the drive |
| 20:48.02 | Qwell | and honestly, even that won't be as good as you'd imagine |
| 20:48.03 | justinu | makes sense. |
| 20:48.11 | Qwell | think of it this way |
| 20:48.21 | Qwell | The drive will still be spinning when you do that |
| 20:48.32 | Qwell | everything in the cache...will likely be able to pushed through, even after the power is gone |
| 20:48.40 | justinu | really? |
| 20:48.45 | Qwell | why? because most drives can pull power from the spinning platters |
| 20:48.48 | justinu | they actually can work even after the power is cut? |
| 20:48.52 | justinu | trippy |
| 20:48.53 | h3x | holy shit now theres 2x2mb cache pentium Ds |
| 20:48.54 | Qwell | for a second, yes |
| 20:48.54 | justinu | i had no idea |
| 20:49.00 | justinu | that's impressive |
| 20:49.08 | Qwell | I mean...don't expect it to still write 50gb |
| 20:49.13 | justinu | sure |
| 20:49.13 | Qwell | but, a few k...yeah, no problem |
| 20:49.19 | h3x | and they dont cost much more than 2x1mb |
| 20:49.35 | justinu | but if it had an 8meg cache, it could maybe empty the whole thing in a second |
| 20:49.37 | Qwell | justinu: I don't recall where I heard that, but he was pretty adament that it was true |
| 20:49.39 | Sedorox | I wish I knew if this as wifi.. or codec problemn :p |
| 20:49.41 | Qwell | justinu: if that |
| 20:51.06 | watchy | i cant find the setting to set default ring in these docs |
| 20:51.27 | justinu | currently writing 139MB/sec |
| 20:51.36 | justinu | or reading/writing |
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| 20:52.37 | justinu | ke4qqq: ? |
| 20:53.42 | watchy | when a call comes in how would you ring more then 1 phone? |
| 20:54.31 | justinu | tech/device1&tech/device2 |
| 20:55.10 | r_evolution | in a queue watchy? |
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| 20:55.42 | r_evolution | ok well... im so going home |
| 20:55.47 | justinu | l8 |
| 20:55.54 | r_evolution | JUSTIN... i appreciate your help... ill be back to waste mad amounts of time monday |
| 20:55.57 | r_evolution | at least this way i can say |
| 20:55.59 | r_evolution | LOOK see |
| 20:56.01 | r_evolution | ASTERISK |
| 20:56.01 | justinu | np |
| 20:56.02 | r_evolution | means im working |
| 20:56.05 | r_evolution | ;) |
| 20:56.12 | justinu | lol |
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| 21:01.40 | watchy | justinu: thanks thats cool |
| 21:02.01 | justinu | np |
| 21:04.32 | Qwell | justinu: so, yeah...140mb/s. now divide that by 8mb, and you'll see it only takes a fraction of a second to flush the cache |
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| 21:09.31 | justinu | qwell: know anything about SMART? |
| 21:09.36 | Qwell | very little |
| 21:09.40 | Qwell | I just know it's annoying :p |
| 21:09.51 | badboyz | on a polycom phone, if i want to register other phonenumbers as speeddials on the screen, where do i add that? |
| 21:09.51 | justinu | how so? |
| 21:10.06 | justinu | in the phone directory |
| 21:10.10 | Qwell | justinu: if a drive is failing, or if the MB thinks it is... |
| 21:10.10 | badboyz | the xml? |
| 21:10.21 | justinu | badboyz: yes, or via the interface on the phone itself |
| 21:10.30 | badboyz | justinu: kk, ty |
| 21:10.32 | Qwell | I've seen it flat out wrong on multiple occasions |
| 21:10.39 | justinu | qwell: hmm |
| 21:10.46 | justinu | does it cause problems in those cases? |
| 21:11.05 | Qwell | it usually just says "Your drive is failing. Press F1 to continue booting." |
| 21:11.13 | justinu | oh, that's a bios check |
| 21:11.14 | justinu | ok |
| 21:11.16 | Qwell | or like "S.M.A.R.T. detected HD failure." |
| 21:11.21 | Qwell | something like that |
| 21:11.31 | justinu | i'll turn smart off in the bios |
| 21:11.38 | justinu | the OS runs it's own SMART daemon |
| 21:11.49 | Qwell | ahh |
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| 21:16.40 | badboyz | justinu: whats the name of hte .xml file for all users? |
| 21:16.46 | badboyz | i want a global buddy list |
| 21:16.53 | justinu | somethign like 0000000000_directory.xml |
| 21:16.56 | badboyz | is it like 000000000-directory? |
| 21:16.57 | badboyz | kk |
| 21:17.03 | badboyz | so the 000 tells it for all phones to use it? |
| 21:17.06 | justinu | yeah |
| 21:17.10 | badboyz | ahh ty again :) |
| 21:17.15 | justinu | only if they have no directory already tho |
| 21:17.20 | badboyz | gotcha |
| 21:17.28 | justinu | it's like a "seed" |
| 21:17.28 | badboyz | so if i want per phone, just sub 000 for the mac addy? |
| 21:17.37 | justinu | i believe so |
| 21:17.40 | badboyz | kk ty |
| 21:17.58 | justinu | if the user updates it locally, the phone writes the new directory to that file. i think. |
| 21:18.40 | justinu | qwell: well, so far smartd sucks |
| 21:18.49 | justinu | i pulled the ribbon cable off the drive, and not a peep :P |
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| 21:22.17 | Sedorox | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:22.18 | Sedorox | LOL |
| 21:22.32 | wasim | its raining in lahore, which means the ball will swing tomorrow |
| 21:22.44 | justinu | cricket? |
| 21:23.09 | wasim | india @ pk , first test, 3rd day |
| 21:23.28 | wasim | india need 400+ to avoid follow on :) |
| 21:23.47 | justinu | i remember watching that on TV in hong kong |
| 21:23.51 | justinu | had no idea what was going on! |
| 21:23.57 | justinu | but I know games can last days |
| 21:24.11 | wasim | 5 day test, 3 test series |
| 21:24.51 | wasim | pk is a vastly improved team |
| 21:30.54 | justinu | what does "ball will swing" mean? |
| 21:33.15 | badboyz | anyone successfully got a polycom to display an idle image? |
| 21:33.32 | justinu | haven't tried that yet... |
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| 21:34.12 | badboyz | the buddy thing worked perfect btw |
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| 21:34.20 | badboyz | and the mac-directory overrides the 000-directory |
| 21:34.22 | badboyz | tried it both ways |
| 21:34.24 | NoVaZuR | hi |
| 21:34.48 | justinu | cool |
| 21:35.20 | NoVaZuR | I've got a problem (exactly 2) with my new x100p I just received. No hangup detection at all. I don't know what to try now. |
| 21:35.49 | justinu | you using kewlstart? |
| 21:35.57 | NoVaZuR | yes |
| 21:36.16 | NoVaZuR | I posted all details here : http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1420877&forum_id=420324 |
| 21:36.42 | NoVaZuR | all details I thought important... |
| 21:37.01 | NoVaZuR | justinu: your question was for me ? |
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| 21:39.04 | NoVaZuR | ?? |
| 21:40.08 | justinu | yeah, i dunno much about those x100p's |
| 21:40.24 | justinu | i just know that kewlstart is for some kinda disconnect supervision |
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| 21:41.10 | NoVaZuR | but, I don't have choice... tried others but error each time |
| 21:41.21 | NoVaZuR | nobody to help me here ? |
| 21:41.36 | rob0 | there are some pages about disconnect supervision on the wiki. |
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| 21:42.18 | NoVaZuR | rob0: I read a lot already, tried a lot of things, but now, it seems i need someone to make step by step some checks |
| 21:43.09 | badboyz | can you dial an extension from the CLI? |
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| 21:43.26 | NoVaZuR | badboyz: never tried that... |
| 21:43.48 | NoVaZuR | badboyz: but I can call from my iax softphone (kiax) |
| 21:44.02 | rob0 | one thing I saw suggested was to call the telco and ask about disconnect supervision. |
| 21:44.04 | badboyz | i just wanna b able to ring an extension, see if its working |
| 21:44.14 | NoVaZuR | badboyz: the problem is about incoming calls, when they hangup, * never see it |
| 21:44.53 | NoVaZuR | badboyz: you want me to test that ? (sorry, my english is not very good) What to do exactly ? |
| 21:45.13 | badboyz | NoVaZuR: sorry my question was generic, i wasnt asking it based upon your situation , sorry |
| 21:45.25 | NoVaZuR | badboyz: ah ! |
| 21:46.09 | NoVaZuR | seems I won't have more help here :-( |
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| 21:48.19 | justinu | NoVaZuR: it's kinda dead at the moment |
| 21:48.25 | justinu | hang out, you'll eventually get some help |
| 21:49.06 | badboyz | NoVaZuR: yea, just chill for awhile, people wake up at random times, just ask your question again in 30 minutes or so |
| 21:49.38 | M-I-A-- | Could someone try something on there TDM400p for me, so I know if i'm going crazy for no reason or not? |
| 21:49.59 | NoVaZuR | ok, thanks you guys... I'll still looking for a solution, on my way |
| 21:50.51 | NoVaZuR | And, just another question, if I want to buy a good digium FXO card, where to buy it with good price about you ? |
| 21:51.09 | justinu | novazur: consider perhapds a sipura SPA-3000 |
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| 21:51.13 | justinu | as well as a digium card. |
| 21:51.35 | NoVaZuR | ah, I don't know that. |
| 21:52.38 | Qwell | M-I-A-: only if you ask... |
| 21:53.19 | M-I-A-- | Qwell I just need someone to run ztmonitor -vv on a channel they are having a conversation on |
| 21:54.44 | M-I-A-- | and see if the rx drop's to 0 while talking (tx is high) |
| 21:57.01 | M-I-A-- | I created a small noise on the pstn side so the rx was at like 300 - 400 constant.. then I talk on the sip phone so the tx goes to like 0 - 3000 and boom the rx goes to 0 and the earpiece cuts out on my sip phone |
| 21:58.55 | M-I-A- | do you have time to try that Qwell? |
| 21:59.04 | M-I-A- | or anyone else for that matter :) |
| 21:59.28 | Qwell | no phone plugged into mine |
| 22:00.02 | M-I-A- | I don't want anyone to feel bad if they are watching the news tonight and see "Man jumped off bridged because of * server" :) |
| 22:00.21 | Qwell | we won't feel bad :) |
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| 22:04.39 | ManxPower | My new TiVo things I'm some sort of interior designer wannabe. |
| 22:04.48 | Qwell | haha |
| 22:04.54 | Qwell | "My tivo thinks I'm gay!" |
| 22:05.23 | Ikarus | lol |
| 22:06.09 | Qwell | I can't remember what that was from...some tv show |
| 22:07.51 | Qwell | ahh, King of Queens |
| 22:09.05 | Nugget | my new tivo was 100% cooking shows for the first month. |
| 22:10.04 | M-I-A- | besides zapata.conf and zaptel.conf and zconfig.h are there any other files for the digium TDM cards that have user configurable options in them?? |
| 22:11.27 | M-I-A- | I got to be missing something... I'm either the only one having this problem or everyone else lives with the horrible conversations through the TDM card... |
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| 22:14.52 | linuxphile | Anyone compiled the zaptel drivers on Ubuntu? |
| 22:16.01 | M-I-A- | linuxphile: nope |
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| 22:17.02 | ManxPower | M-I-A-, What is the problem? |
| 22:17.53 | M-I-A- | manxPower - the receive audio cuts out when talking through the TDM400p |
| 22:18.22 | M-I-A- | Now when using ztmonitor -vv I am watching the rx and tx as i am having a conversation and when I speak the tx goes up and the rx goes to 0.. causes and very awful conversation.. |
| 22:18.31 | ManxPower | M-I-A-, Sounds like you have agressive echo can enabled. |
| 22:18.43 | inv_Arp | linuxphile: what error{s} ya get? |
| 22:19.02 | M-I-A- | double triple checked and also mogorman logged into my box and checked |
| 22:19.08 | ManxPower | M-I-A-, You are not using a speakerphone, are you? |
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| 22:19.25 | M-I-A- | nope Aastra 9133i hardphone using handset |
| 22:19.31 | ManxPower | M-I-A-, cat /proc/interrupts shows NOTHING sharing the IRQ with the TDM card? |
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| 22:19.47 | M-I-A- | manxpower - correct |
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| 22:20.02 | Qwell | linuxphile: there is a list of packages you need to install on the wiki |
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| 22:20.51 | ManxPower | M-I-A-, your problem is VERY uncommon. |
| 22:20.58 | ManxPower | M-I-A-, Can you try a different phone? |
| 22:21.14 | M-I-A- | iaxy and dlink DPH-140s |
| 22:21.25 | ManxPower | M-I-A-, they all do that? |
| 22:21.27 | _Thor | hello everyone |
| 22:21.36 | M-I-A- | manxpower - correct |
| 22:21.47 | ManxPower | M-I-A-, Weird. |
| 22:22.17 | M-I-A- | very :( |
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| 22:22.21 | M-I-A- | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:22.37 | M-I-A- | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:22.39 | Qwell | ~pb |
| 22:22.42 | jbot | somebody said pb was a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.com/, or http://pastebin.ca |
| 22:22.46 | M-I-A- | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:22.46 | M-I-A- | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:22.46 | M-I-A- | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:22.59 | M-I-A- | NMI: 0 |
| 22:23.00 | M-I-A- | ERR: 0 |
| 22:23.29 | M-I-A- | i even made sure it was a lower irq than the nic |
| 22:24.14 | merc_jedi | hello newbie here...I have some questions about conecting from an x-ten softphone to a remote asterisk box which is behind a firewall. By the way The ports have been forwarded to an internal asterisk box. What do I need do within the X-ten or AMP setup? |
| 22:24.39 | [TK]D-Fender | merc_jedi : Try #amportal |
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| 22:25.08 | merc_jedi | thnx.. |
| 22:25.59 | _Thor | Anyone has tried passing a parameter from one * box to another, on an IAX-to-IAX call? |
| 22:26.10 | [TK]D-Fender | Now if you were using straight * I'd have been able to give you the answer as fast as that referral :) |
| 22:27.14 | merc_jedi | [TK]D-Fender:sorry confused.is that amportal a channel or a command line that I need to type |
| 22:27.36 | M-I-A- | ManxPower do you have a TDM card in a test box you could try this situation out on? |
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| 22:28.13 | ManxPower | M-I-A-, I have had, over the past 3 years, almost 10 Asterisk boxes with TDM cards in them and have never had this problem. |
| 22:28.27 | ManxPower | I've had OTHER problems, but not the one you have described. |
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| 22:29.24 | M-I-A- | It has to be the way i am setuping something up because i have two different box's and they both do it at two different locations (different telco lines) |
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| 22:30.39 | linuxphile | Qwell: what wiki were you referring too specifically? |
| 22:31.21 | justinu | if rx audio level goes to zero when you talk, that's the telco's fault |
| 22:31.26 | justinu | you can't control what you receive |
| 22:31.27 | merc_jedi | sorry for the redudandt question..people seem to be asleep on amportal.. wondering about setup of an external xten phone to a firewalled asterisk box. can someone help out? |
| 22:32.41 | Qwell | ~wikis |
| 22:32.43 | jbot | somebody said wikis was http://www.voip-info.org |
| 22:33.13 | M-I-A- | justinu - I wish it was the telcos fault, but i have tested it with regular phones playing music on both ends of the phone and it is a full duplex conversation |
| 22:33.36 | merc_jedi | any help?? |
| 22:34.09 | M-I-A- | merc_jedi is it not connecting? do you get a error msg? |
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| 22:35.24 | merc_jedi | M-I-A: the phone basically looks like its trying to login with the appropriate credentials which I tested internally ( worked fine) but fails externally. I have set up port forwarding to my internal box (udp ports). |
| 22:36.05 | justinu | MIA: is that a tdm2400 card? |
| 22:36.25 | M-I-A- | justinu yes |
| 22:36.36 | justinu | ok, i thought you were on a digital trunk |
| 22:36.43 | merc_jedi | M-I-A: im sort of newb. So is there log that I can check to see if there has been an attempt to connect? |
| 22:36.48 | justinu | analog has some weird issues that I prefer to avoid ;) |
| 22:36.58 | M-I-A- | :) |
| 22:37.41 | merc_jedi | im not sure if STUN is going to solve the problem either.. |
| 22:37.52 | NoVaZuR | How to know what I have to use gx, lx, kx ? |
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| 22:38.11 | justinu | NoVaZuR: is it analog? |
| 22:38.13 | M-I-A- | merc_jedi what firewall are you using? |
| 22:38.24 | NoVaZuR | Juggie: yes |
| 22:38.28 | NoVaZuR | sorry |
| 22:38.30 | merc_jedi | its a sme-server with udp portforwarding |
| 22:38.31 | NoVaZuR | justinu: yes |
| 22:39.04 | justinu | NoVaZuR: probably loop start or kewlstart then |
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| 22:39.13 | justinu | ground start isn't common in residential places |
| 22:39.21 | justinu | but it could be GS, theoretically |
| 22:39.40 | NoVaZuR | tried with kx and gx both in zaptel.conf and zapata.conf, and for each, it never hangup |
| 22:39.49 | NoVaZuR | justinu: tried with kx and gx both in zaptel.conf and zapata.conf, and for each, it never hangup |
| 22:39.57 | justinu | NoVaZuR; what country you from? |
| 22:40.05 | merc_jedi | M-I-A:any ideas?? |
| 22:40.07 | justinu | or, where do you live currently? |
| 22:40.08 | NoVaZuR | justinu: sorry, not gx but lx |
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| 22:40.18 | M-I-A- | merc_jedi did you use the sample sip.conf file? |
| 22:40.23 | NoVaZuR | justinu: Martinique, but it is French, with France Telecom |
| 22:40.27 | justinu | ok |
| 22:40.35 | justinu | i bet your country uses a tone to signal disconnect |
| 22:40.45 | justinu | and not a short drop in loop current, like us |
| 22:40.58 | linuxphile | how can I look at the cards before they are loaded via modprobe |
| 22:41.01 | NoVaZuR | justinu: surely, and it is configurable somewhere ? |
| 22:41.05 | Ariel_ | hello everyone |
| 22:41.07 | justinu | NoVaZuR: i believe so |
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| 22:41.16 | Ariel_ | use the contry code your in |
| 22:41.18 | NoVaZuR | justinu: but you don't know more ? :-( |
| 22:41.41 | NoVaZuR | Ariel_: me ? |
| 22:41.50 | justinu | NoVaZuR: callprogress=yes in zapata.conf? |
| 22:41.51 | Ariel_ | NoVaZuR, look on the voip-info.org for your country's zaptel settings |
| 22:42.10 | linuxphile | I am getting the following when I try to do a modprobe wcfxo: FATAL: Module wcfxo not found. |
| 22:42.10 | linuxphile | FATAL: Error running install command for wcfxo |
| 22:42.10 | NoVaZuR | justinu: I can try, but, kx or lx ? |
| 22:42.27 | justinu | ks |
| 22:42.30 | NoVaZuR | Ariel_: I don't finish to look everywhere |
| 22:42.30 | merc_jedi | M-I-A: its an @home config so Ill look though it. there is a sample there?? |
| 22:42.45 | Ariel_ | linuxphile, do you have an fxo or fxs module green or red |
| 22:43.17 | NoVaZuR | justinu: I'll try that now... One minute |
| 22:43.31 | Ariel_ | merc_jedi, there is a channel here called #amportal that might help out more with a@h or amp setups |
| 22:43.45 | linuxphile | Ariel_: I believe I have an fxo, and I'm not sure what you are referring to with green or red |
| 22:43.54 | justinu | NoVaZuR: also try "busydetect=yes" if that doesn't work. |
| 22:44.01 | merc_jedi | M-I-A: yes I set that up....sip.conf... thats how I got the incoming broadvoice to work... |
| 22:44.02 | Ariel_ | linuxphile, what card are you using |
| 22:44.14 | justinu | NoVaZuR: but only use one, or the other. not both! |
| 22:44.20 | NoVaZuR | justinu: already tried that... But I can't try all combination |
| 22:44.24 | merc_jedi | Ariel_: tried to formulate same question..and everyone is asleep on amportal |
| 22:44.43 | justinu | NoVaZuR: if I call you, and hang up on you on a normal phone line, what do you hear? |
| 22:44.43 | Ariel_ | merc_jedi, bv works fine there is settings for you to set it up via amp's config setup |
| 22:44.58 | linuxphile | tdm400p |
| 22:45.06 | NoVaZuR | justinu: out from asterisk ? |
| 22:45.19 | justinu | NoVaZuR: no, if I call you without asterisk invovled at all |
| 22:45.22 | Ariel_ | tdm400p has modules you plug in some red some green he red are fxo's and the green ones are fxs |
| 22:45.36 | justinu | NoVaZuR: do you hear a busy signal after I hang up? |
| 22:45.39 | merc_jedi | Ariel_: yes I have bv working fine..this for an external xten pone connection |
| 22:45.41 | NoVaZuR | NoVaZuR: ok, so I can hear biiiippp biiippp biiippp |
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| 22:45.57 | NoVaZuR | justinu: normaly yes |
| 22:45.59 | justinu | is that the same sound as you hear if you dial a busy number? |
| 22:46.00 | Ariel_ | merc_jedi, xten works fine with there default settings I use them all the time |
| 22:46.21 | NoVaZuR | justinu: good question, I don't know |
| 22:46.28 | justinu | NoVaZuR: can you find out? |
| 22:46.29 | merc_jedi | Ariel _: Im using xten from outside of my firewall. |
| 22:46.47 | NoVaZuR | justinu: I'll try... can I call my own number to test busy tone ? |
| 22:46.58 | copantl | howto configurate a te400p on zapata.conf |
| 22:46.58 | justinu | not sure |
| 22:47.13 | Ariel_ | merc_jedi, did you setup port forwarding on your router |
| 22:47.32 | Ariel_ | you can also use a public stun server like stun.xten.com it's free to use. |
| 22:47.34 | NoVaZuR | justinu: so i need someone to test with me... |
| 22:47.41 | merc_jedi | Ariel_: Ive gone through and forwaded the ports |
| 22:47.59 | justinu | NoVaZuR: maybe. i can call numbers for you from overseas, but i dunno if that will help |
| 22:48.02 | merc_jedi | Ariel_: it appears so..otherwise bv would fail too right?? |
| 22:48.26 | Ariel_ | bv registers and when it registers with the outside service it opens the ports |
| 22:48.27 | NoVaZuR | justinu: thank you, but it's surely better I test with someone localy |
| 22:48.51 | Ariel_ | most fw/routers allow outbound and keeps it alive. But your looking an registration inbound |
| 22:48.54 | NoVaZuR | justinu: give me 5 mn to find someone |
| 22:49.08 | Ariel_ | 5060 is needed to be forwarded udp not tcp |
| 22:49.29 | justinu | NoVaZuR: k |
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| 22:49.58 | merc_jedi | Ariel_: ahhhh okay...so basically...I used sm-server to forward those ports...but when giving a netstat-ln I dont necessarily see the open udp ports. |
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| 22:51.09 | merc_jedi | Ariel: I wonder even if those ports are forwarded, I need to open the port itself up on the firewall. |
| 22:51.30 | Ariel_ | yes |
| 22:51.30 | NoVaZuR | justinu: not same tone !! |
| 22:51.36 | Ariel_ | what firewall are you using? |
| 22:51.45 | justinu | NoVaZuR: ok, it still might work tho |
| 22:51.50 | merc_jedi | Ariel_: sme server 2.X |
| 22:51.51 | justinu | try busydetect=yes |
| 22:52.01 | NoVaZuR | justinu: allready tried with it |
| 22:52.04 | merc_jedi | Ariel: contribs.org distro |
| 22:52.11 | NoVaZuR | justinu: did you see my conf ? |
| 22:52.16 | justinu | busycount=6 |
| 22:52.18 | justinu | NoVaZuR: no |
| 22:52.21 | NoVaZuR | justinu: possible in pv ? |
| 22:52.26 | justinu | pv? |
| 22:52.29 | NoVaZuR | private |
| 22:52.33 | justinu | oh, pastebin it |
| 22:52.39 | justinu | but yeah, ok |
| 22:52.43 | NoVaZuR | ok |
| 22:52.44 | Ariel_ | merc_jedi, ok I have not used that one. But I have used monowall and ipcop which both work great. |
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| 22:53.34 | merc_jedi | Ariel_ : What is the quick way to check if the ports are open... |
| 22:53.49 | Ariel_ | ethereal |
| 22:53.58 | NoVaZuR | justinu: can you see me in private window ? |
| 22:54.08 | file | ARGH |
| 22:54.18 | file | there's this one song in the Hackers movie that isn't on the soundtrack, that I wanttttttttt |
| 22:54.43 | iDunno | awww |
| 22:54.43 | Ariel_ | hackers movie was a great one |
| 22:55.00 | NoVaZuR | justinu: my conf was posted here : http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1420877&forum_id=420324 |
| 22:55.02 | file | it's when they were in the apartment solving the garbage file thing... |
| 22:55.13 | fugitivo | yes, it was a "real" movie |
| 22:55.29 | merc_jedi | Ariel_: Hey..thanks a lot...I will check few things and get back... |
| 22:55.37 | Ariel_ | I like the pool at the end best.... |
| 22:55.46 | Katty | hi. |
| 22:55.47 | Ariel_ | merc_jedi, good luck |
| 22:55.56 | fugitivo | i like when he dreams whith angelina... |
| 22:56.06 | Ariel_ | fugitivo, how is the weather down south? |
| 22:56.06 | merc_jedi | M-I-A : Thanks for your help... |
| 22:56.27 | Ariel_ | miss lips |
| 22:56.39 | fugitivo | Ariel_: lot of rain last days, clear skies today, nice temperature |
| 22:57.16 | Ariel_ | great to hear it. We got clear skys cool to cold wind is coming donw tonight. Need to see if my heater was fixed. |
| 22:57.29 | Ariel_ | donw/down |
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| 23:01.04 | fugitivo | i don't want high temperatures again, i'll need to buy an AC |
| 23:05.27 | Ariel_ | Our A/C works great we normally don't have heaters here. But I had the one in our unit fixed this week. My baby did not like it too cold, and if it gets below 65 here we think it's freezing. |
| 23:08.21 | M-I-A- | 65 ha it was 0 here the other day |
| 23:08.48 | pifiu | hey ariel wasup |
| 23:09.07 | pifiu | its jp here in miami |
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| 23:10.06 | NoVaZuR | is there someone here to help me for hangup detection with x100p clone, in France ? |
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| 23:11.45 | fugitivo | NoVaZuR: yes, buy a tdm400p |
| 23:11.47 | M-I-A- | NoVaZuR everywhere i read there are problems with hangup detection with the x100p's do you have access to a TDM400p that you could test out? |
| 23:11.57 | justinu | ah-hah |
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| 23:12.06 | M-I-A- | :) |
| 23:12.10 | justinu | c'est un problemme avec le hardware :P |
| 23:12.40 | Ariel_ | pifiu, how are you |
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| 23:13.51 | [TK]D-Fender | il-ce trouve entre les oreilles ;) |
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| 23:14.48 | justinu | hey fender, is there a way to enable some kind of disconnect supervision tone on the polycoms? |
| 23:14.56 | [TK]D-Fender | ? |
| 23:15.27 | [TK]D-Fender | When SIP says buhbye, so does Polycom :) End of story. |
| 23:15.59 | ManxPower | justinu, Anything that uses OOB signaling does not need inband disnaling. |
| 23:16.08 | ManxPower | signaling too. |
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| 23:16.35 | justinu | my users complain they can't tell when people hang up on them |
| 23:16.42 | justinu | "but our old pbx did it" |
| 23:17.16 | [TK]D-Fender | justinu : it gives you discomfort noise removal and the lights go dark! |
| 23:17.16 | file[laptop] | ohhhhhh how standard |
| 23:17.51 | Ariel_ | justinu, use the h, option and play them a congestion |
| 23:18.02 | justinu | hey... they're lusers, what can you do? |
| 23:18.11 | [TK]D-Fender | justinu : SPA-941 give me an annoying re-order tone when the other side hansg up. |
| 23:18.16 | justinu | ariel: i couldn't get that to work |
| 23:18.22 | justinu | fender: yeah, the gxp's do it also |
| 23:18.29 | justinu | it's optional on the gxps |
| 23:18.32 | Ariel_ | hummm why not works great fo rme |
| 23:18.39 | [TK]D-Fender | As soon as I can find a way to kill that on my 941 its gone |
| 23:18.42 | justinu | ariel: what phones? |
| 23:18.44 | Ariel_ | fo rme/for me |
| 23:19.05 | [TK]D-Fender | justinu : Ariel_'s idae for 'h' sounds good... |
| 23:19.06 | Ariel_ | polycom's, Sipura, it's a setting in your dialing rules and macro's you use to do the dialing |
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| 23:19.23 | pifiu | ariel, im doing great how about yourself? |
| 23:19.25 | Ariel_ | it's not a phone thing but rules |
| 23:19.32 | pifiu | my setup seems to be working awesome! |
| 23:19.34 | edgenet | hi all |
| 23:19.47 | justinu | ariel: care to show me that macro? |
| 23:19.48 | pifiu | after many months of trying all sorts fo different things |
| 23:19.51 | Ariel_ | pifiu, ok. but about to go nuts over the customer you gave me.... |
| 23:20.00 | pifiu | what happened? |
| 23:20.09 | pifiu | PM? |
| 23:20.31 | edgenet | does anyone know how to do ACD (Average Call Duration) and ASR (Average Call duration) with * ? |
| 23:20.47 | edgenet | ACD & ASR routing |
| 23:21.06 | justinu | ACD is automatic call distribution |
| 23:21.08 | justinu | ~acd |
| 23:21.11 | jbot | from memory, acd is All Cats Down, a Jazz term used when the musicians are passed out drunk (props to ManxPower) |
| 23:21.20 | justinu | lol |
| 23:21.43 | edgenet | ACD -> Average Call Duration |
| 23:21.58 | wunderkin | if you say so |
| 23:22.03 | justinu | heh |
| 23:22.38 | [TK]D-Fender | Automatic Call Distribution <- |
| 23:23.01 | justinu | speaking of ACD |
| 23:23.02 | wunderkin | edgenet, check the queue_log |
| 23:23.18 | [TK]D-Fender | edgenet : how is ASR = "ASR (Average Call duration)" |
| 23:23.19 | justinu | i need to setup a simple ACD with like 4 people |
| 23:23.25 | file[laptop] | average success rate? |
| 23:23.27 | justinu | some people haveSIP phones |
| 23:23.29 | edgenet | not really ...want to route calls to an extention depending on the previous call durations |
| 23:23.30 | justinu | some are on PSTN |
| 23:23.33 | justinu | is it possible? |
| 23:23.37 | [TK]D-Fender | Another Stupid Report! |
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| 23:25.09 | Ariel_ | justinu, I use the default macro that comes with asterisk extensions.conf.samples |
| 23:25.54 | [TK]D-Fender | edgenet : Sounds like you need to write an AGI script to track all of that |
| 23:26.08 | justinu | ariel: hmph, ok i'll look at that again, i guess |
| 23:26.24 | edgenet | any help Fender ? |
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| 23:27.37 | [TK]D-Fender | edgenet : you'll need to do some custom programming. |
| 23:27.49 | wunderkin | justinu, yeah there are a few ways to do it.. |
| 23:29.14 | justinu | agentcallbacklogin seems to be something I want to use |
| 23:29.33 | wunderkin | that or if you dont want them to login you can use static members, member => SIP/blah, etc |
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| 23:30.18 | justinu | ok |
| 23:30.31 | justinu | that means they're always "online"? static? |
| 23:30.36 | wunderkin | ya |
| 23:30.39 | justinu | cool |
| 23:32.04 | [TK]D-Fender | justinu : There are benifits to static, like if they are on the phone and can't accept another call (call-waiting or multi-line, etc) it won't waste an attempt dialing a busy agent. |
| 23:32.23 | justinu | hmm |
| 23:32.30 | wunderkin | if they dont login or dont use pqm |
| 23:32.38 | wunderkin | er no just pqm |
| 23:32.41 | [TK]D-Fender | AgenCallbackLogin is good if your agents change desks a lot or you want to do other scripted things as you dial them (like CRM screen-pops, etc) |
| 23:32.42 | wunderkin | er |
| 23:32.43 | justinu | i know nothing about this ACD stuff, but I'm trying to set up a small demo |
| 23:33.24 | justinu | fender: can you do anything with the softkeys on a 501 to do login/logout? |
| 23:33.35 | justinu | and reflect the status on the display? |
| 23:33.47 | wunderkin | bj committed something to have to do with that stuff but i dunno what it was for |
| 23:34.14 | pifiu | how do i change the gateway address on a linux machine? |
| 23:34.24 | pifiu | i figured out the IP and bcast, but not the gateway |
| 23:34.42 | justinu | route add default gw <ipaddr> |
| 23:35.04 | [TK]D-Fender | justinu : not with the softkeys really. there is an ACD login/out thing with Polycom but theres no doc's on what it does |
| 23:35.12 | justinu | hmm |
| 23:35.12 | pifiu | but that would ADD or REPLACE the current one? |
| 23:35.32 | justinu | pifiu: delete the old one first... route del default <ipaddr> |
| 23:35.37 | justinu | i can't remember if you need the "gw" or not |
| 23:35.43 | justinu | it's different on every unix |
| 23:35.45 | pifiu | ok |
| 23:35.47 | [TK]D-Fender | justinu : Status on display can be done a number of ways : XML on 60x, or manipulated IDLE image on 50x |
| 23:35.47 | pifiu | fedora? |
| 23:35.58 | justinu | fender: ahh |
| 23:36.09 | rabelais | is there a way to transfer someone into a conference room from a current call?? |
| 23:36.10 | justinu | pifiu: look at the route command |
| 23:36.25 | pifiu | ok thanks |
| 23:36.26 | pifiu | ={ |
| 23:36.28 | pifiu | =) |
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| 23:36.50 | justinu | on fedora, just edit /etc/sysconfig/network |
| 23:36.57 | justinu | and /etc/init.d/network restart |
| 23:37.27 | [TK]D-Fender | rabelais : Yes, just have an exten that dumps in conference w/o a password and transfer it |
| 23:37.43 | rabelais | [TK]D-Fender: ah, I see...thank you |
| 23:37.54 | pifiu | ok thanks justinu |
| 23:38.22 | pifiu | oops |
| 23:38.32 | pifiu | i think when i restarted the service it just took it down instead of restart it |
| 23:40.08 | justinu | um, this isn't a remote box is it? |
| 23:41.47 | pifiu | no its right here next to me |
| 23:41.51 | pifiu | actually look at what happens |
| 23:42.00 | pifiu | when i set the ifconfig to an address |
| 23:42.14 | pifiu | i then change the gway in the sysconfig/network and restart the service it goes back to the original IP |
| 23:42.22 | pifiu | the gway is changed but the ifconfig wont stay the same |
| 23:42.27 | pifiu | wont change i mean |
| 23:42.33 | pifiu | it changes, but when i restart the service it goes back |
| 23:42.41 | justinu | oh |
| 23:42.49 | justinu | edit /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 |
| 23:43.00 | justinu | put the right IP in there |
| 23:44.20 | fugitivo | Neoload is great |
| 23:44.49 | pifiu | do i have to restart the service on it |
| 23:45.24 | justinu | after you change the file, yes |
| 23:45.48 | pifiu | ok |
| 23:46.31 | fugitivo | damn, it's expensive |
| 23:46.39 | pifiu | wow ok just kill me now |
| 23:47.02 | pifiu | gway changed, ip changed now i try to ping for example google and it says "ping: unknown host www.google.com" |
| 23:47.08 | pifiu | =P wonderful |
| 23:47.26 | justinu | dns probably isn't setup |
| 23:47.32 | justinu | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:47.41 | pifiu | all of this should be though but ok |
| 23:47.42 | justinu | can you ping 4.2.2.2? |
| 23:47.46 | pifiu | thats my DNS lol |
| 23:47.49 | pifiu | verizon++ |
| 23:47.49 | pifiu | lol |
| 23:47.53 | justinu | yeah |
| 23:47.55 | pifiu | let me see |
| 23:47.59 | justinu | it's just an easy IP to remember |
| 23:48.10 | pifiu | no it says connect: network is unreachable |
| 23:48.28 | pifiu | yet im connected via ssh right now |
| 23:48.35 | justinu | ok, then the gateway is likely to be incorrect |
| 23:49.03 | justinu | gateway affects only connects that need to cross a router, if it's on the LAN, you don't need it |
| 23:49.05 | pifiu | ok im looking into that file and i have all 3 dns setup, i guess it keeps trying touse the main one |
| 23:49.13 | pifiu | yeah i know |
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| 23:49.28 | pifiu | im just saying that error it gives me makes it seem like the network card for it doesnt work |
| 23:49.40 | pifiu | and this is odd becasue on DNS it should use the second or third of the first doesnt work |
| 23:50.07 | pifiu | how do i restart that service? /etc/init.d/resolv restart? |
| 23:50.15 | justinu | no, you don't need to |
| 23:50.18 | justinu | editing the file is good enough |
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| 23:50.21 | pifiu | ok |
| 23:50.28 | pifiu | thats odd isnt it? you would think you would? |
| 23:50.36 | Corydon76-home | It isn't a service; it's a library |
| 23:50.55 | pifiu | wow no still says connect: network unreachable |
| 23:51.21 | justinu | you have an IP routing problem, not a DNS problem |
| 23:51.24 | Corydon76-home | No default route, perhaps? |
| 23:52.02 | justinu | get leyer 3 up, and the applications will work ;) |
| 23:52.10 | pifiu | oh i think its the bcast is fucked up |
| 23:52.11 | pifiu | one second |
| 23:52.21 | justinu | probably your subnet mask |
| 23:52.25 | justinu | if anything |
| 23:53.53 | pifiu | what is the difference in between restarting a service and reloading one? |
| 23:54.17 | pifiu | got it justin |
| 23:54.30 | justinu | cool |
| 23:54.42 | pifiu | i appreciate the help |
| 23:54.45 | justinu | np |
| 23:54.49 | pifiu | ill just isntall webmin that way its easier to change after |
| 23:56.26 | justinu | ooh, you can make the polycom play 16bit 16kHz samples |
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