| 00:00.04 | Qwell[] | with eth0? heh |
| 00:00.08 | Strom_C | no |
| 00:00.16 | Strom_C | eth0 goes to 217 |
| 00:00.26 | Qwell[] | Does eth1 work with the soundcard in? |
| 00:00.56 | Strom_C | i thnk so |
| 00:00.59 | Qwell[] | erm, nm |
| 00:01.15 | Qwell[] | yeah, dunno...there shouldn't be any conflicts there |
| 00:02.29 | Qwell[] | tried swapping ports when the soundcard is in? |
| 00:02.40 | Qwell[] | slots |
| 00:02.42 | Strom_C | ...the T1 card will only fit into one PCI slot |
| 00:02.56 | gnosys | DID: Direct Inward Dial? Is that for when I want to have a phone number get routed to my Asterisk server via the Internet? |
| 00:02.59 | Qwell[] | tried moving the soundcard around? |
| 00:03.24 | [TK]D-Fender | gnosys : Or from a digital PSTN link like PRI |
| 00:03.40 | Strom_C | I could try swapping the sound card and the SCSI card, but the SCSI card has a cable on it that might not like that |
| 00:03.52 | Qwell[] | Strom_C: worth a shot. pci is silly |
| 00:03.55 | Strom_C | yeah |
| 00:03.55 | Strom_C | ok |
| 00:04.10 | [TK]D-Fender | DID is a phone number that targets a digital trunk. ITSP's use them and route your calls in a simlar fashion. |
| 00:04.25 | gnosys | ok. Thanks, [TK]D-Fender. Did you get my earlier private message about your comment on my sip.cfg? |
| 00:04.45 | [TK]D-Fender | gnosys : Yeah, still not luck? Did you try changing the ring in the alert line? |
| 00:04.57 | [TK]D-Fender | <INTERNAL se.rt.5.name="Internal" se.rt.5.type="ring" se.rt.5.ringer="7" se.rt.5.callWait="6" se.rt.5.mod="1"/> |
| 00:05.01 | gnosys | From INTERNAL to Internal? |
| 00:05.08 | [TK]D-Fender | And that too. |
| 00:05.08 | gnosys | ya. I had already tried that... |
| 00:05.20 | [TK]D-Fender | change the combo and test it (after rebooting the phone of course) |
| 00:05.27 | [TK]D-Fender | And changed the ringer #? |
| 00:05.45 | gnosys | ringer #... is that the se.rt.5.type= |
| 00:05.54 | gnosys | or .ringer |
| 00:06.11 | [TK]D-Fender | se.rt.5.ringer="7" |
| 00:06.16 | gnosys | what do you mean when you say "combo" all of those settings? |
| 00:06.28 | [TK]D-Fender | both settings, the extensions, and the SIP.cfg tweak. |
| 00:06.39 | [TK]D-Fender | pastebin that portion of your dialplan. |
| 00:06.51 | gnosys | ok. |
| 00:08.01 | gnosys | http://pastebin.com/485744 |
| 00:08.32 | [TK]D-Fender | gnosys : What * ver? |
| 00:08.49 | gnosys | 1.2.1 |
| 00:09.08 | [TK]D-Fender | Setvar is depreciated and there is a new function for setting SIP headers |
| 00:09.23 | Qwell[] | deprecated |
| 00:09.59 | gnosys | I fiddled with the .ringer setting (changed it from 2 to 7 for the Internal one), and the voIpProt.SIP.alertInfo.1.value= (from Internal to INTERNAL and some others). Nothing worked. What does your sip.cfg look like? |
| 00:10.03 | gnosys | oh! |
| 00:10.15 | Qwell[] | Setvar never had a value to begin with, so it can't have been depreciated |
| 00:10.23 | gnosys | What's the new func? |
| 00:10.43 | gnosys | Strange, because it worked for changing the ring pattern with the Cisco 79XX |
| 00:10.56 | gnosys | maybe it's buggy? |
| 00:11.15 | gnosys | I pulled that off the wiki |
| 00:11.20 | gnosys | Setvar |
| 00:11.25 | [TK]D-Fender | And its "Set()" now |
| 00:11.35 | Qwell[] | SET() |
| 00:11.47 | Qwell[] | Use the function :p |
| 00:11.59 | gnosys | are these function names case-sensitive? |
| 00:12.12 | [TK]D-Fender | gnosys : I never tried any of that stuff personally... |
| 00:12.13 | Qwell[] | function names are - applications aren't |
| 00:12.25 | gnosys | ok |
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| 00:12.49 | gnosys | [TK]D-Fender: you never tried getting distinctive rings to work with polycom? |
| 00:13.03 | [TK]D-Fender | nope |
| 00:13.16 | gnosys | :-( |
| 00:14.15 | gnosys | I know ManxPower has done it, but he says he doesn't recall how and doesn't have the time to spend looking through his config files. Anybody else here got distinctive rings working with polycom phones? |
| 00:14.31 | Qwell[] | gnosys: probably SetSIPHeader, or whatever it is |
| 00:14.35 | Strom_C | ok, here goes with the SCSI and sound cards switched |
| 00:14.37 | Qwell[] | show applications like header |
| 00:15.25 | gnosys | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:15.25 | gnosys | ? |
| 00:15.33 | Qwell[] | that's the one |
| 00:15.52 | gnosys | I'll try that. Thanks, Qwell[] |
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| 00:17.37 | gnosys | Could I get some feedback on broadband VoIP providers like VoicePulse? I use IAX2 with VoicePulse Connect! for outbound calls right now and am reasonably happy with them thus far (after a week of use), and am now considering renting a number for DID. Just curious about the general satisfaction amongst users here with your providers, especially for DID. |
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| 00:18.43 | Strom_C | well, ok, now the spans all show green but i've got the audio problem on span 2 again. |
| 00:19.11 | Qwell[] | meh, a server doesn't need a soundcard anyways. |
| 00:19.21 | Strom_C | this one does - they have a paging system I need to hook into the PBX |
| 00:19.26 | Qwell[] | oh |
| 00:19.38 | justinu | would he have these problems with a sangoma card? |
| 00:19.58 | Strom_C | if I bought a sangoma card, mark spencer would no longer be my friend. |
| 00:20.04 | Strom_C | so there goes that option :) |
| 00:20.17 | justinu | lol |
| 00:20.19 | tzanger | what will the sangoma card give you the digium won't? |
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| 00:20.31 | justinu | maybe it would work right... i dunno |
| 00:20.41 | tzanger | digium cards work just fine |
| 00:20.42 | Qwell[] | tzanger: a very large debit? |
| 00:20.44 | IOscanner | well I have everything setup. I would guess nat=yes doesn't work if the box is nat'ed |
| 00:21.00 | tzanger | they are a little finickier on some systems, this is true, but the sangoma cards aren't perfect either |
| 00:21.06 | tzanger | I have both, and Mark's still my friend :-) |
| 00:21.07 | Qwell[] | IOscanner: well, it still needs the ports forwarded and the like |
| 00:21.20 | justinu | i don't know mark, so I bought a sangoma |
| 00:21.25 | Qwell[] | justinu: :p |
| 00:21.45 | IOscanner | I have ports port forwarded from on the remote side |
| 00:22.04 | IOscanner | I will double check the local side |
| 00:22.58 | asterboy | anyone celebrating new year yet? |
| 00:23.06 | tzanger | no |
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| 00:23.12 | tzanger | it's 7:20 here |
| 00:23.16 | IOscanner | started to get my drink on |
| 00:23.18 | IOscanner | 6:23 here |
| 00:23.23 | tzanger | and I'm actually very tired, I am likely just going to sleep :-) |
| 00:23.33 | tzanger | I didn't know mark when I bought digium, justinu :-) |
| 00:24.01 | justinu | anyways, I haven't heard anyone complain about sangoma yet |
| 00:24.02 | asterboy | follow the white rabbit |
| 00:24.18 | Qwell[] | heh, I heard a rant or two about Sangoma at Astricon |
| 00:24.24 | tzanger | heh |
| 00:24.36 | justinu | i missed it |
| 00:24.40 | tzanger | anyway as I said both manufactuerers have decent cards that are very comparable |
| 00:24.56 | Ridgeback | I;m going to make all my voip phones rng at midnight :) |
| 00:24.57 | tzanger | digium's x100p and the early tdm cards had flaws |
| 00:25.14 | tzanger | I've never had problems with their T1 cards (T100P, TE410, TE405/6) |
| 00:25.31 | Strom_C | my TDM400P has been rock-solid |
| 00:27.59 | IOscanner | is there not a way to nat a single line on a cisco 7960 instead of all lines? |
| 00:28.22 | justinu | the sipura's can do that :P |
| 00:28.44 | IOscanner | doh |
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| 00:37.30 | gnosys | Anybody here use DVIG? |
| 00:38.04 | brockj49464 | Anybody know anything about zingotel or telasip? |
| 00:38.15 | gnosys | any favorites for VoIP providers, especially for DID? |
| 00:40.35 | justinu | level3 :P |
| 00:43.20 | Strom_C | hm ok...now span 2 is just down permanently. fails loopback and everything :/ |
| 00:43.40 | justinu | wow |
| 00:43.53 | Strom_C | *shrug8 |
| 00:44.00 | Strom_C | RMA is a beautiful thing |
| 00:44.09 | justinu | put a piece of tape over span 2 |
| 00:44.10 | justinu | "do not use" |
| 00:44.16 | Strom_C | no, i'm going to RMA it |
| 00:44.23 | Strom_C | piece of tape my ass |
| 00:44.28 | justinu | couldn't afford the downtime to replace it |
| 00:44.41 | Strom_C | I can replace it when everyone's gone home for the evening |
| 00:45.15 | justinu | i'm just lazy, i guess |
| 00:46.35 | Strom_C | lazy == bad |
| 00:46.55 | justinu | lazy means things work without human intervention |
| 00:50.40 | iDunno | happy new year, people :) |
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| 00:52.48 | xheliox | crowd of doom? |
| 00:54.44 | warthog | anyone here have a working example of telnet connection to asterisk manager? I can get it working manually with action: originate but when I try and use net::telnet I can only get it to logon, logoff to manager but the originate command gets ignored for unknown reasons at this point. |
| 00:55.18 | Qwell[] | whoever picked Dallas for Astricon 2006...good job, again. ;] |
| 00:57.05 | iDunno | xheliox: that's the US, isn't it? a crowd of dooooom? ;) |
| 00:57.55 | Fubster | when i start asterisk, i'm getting this error: WARNING[21231]: res_musiconhold.c:833 moh_register: Unable to open pseudo channel for timing... Sound may be choppy. |
| 00:58.26 | Fubster | this never happened before i replaced the mohmp3s |
| 00:58.40 | Fubster | what exactly does it mean, and how can i correct it? |
| 00:58.41 | Strom_C | are the new ones at the same bitrate as the old ones? |
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| 00:59.07 | Fubster | probably not.. they're from my music collection |
| 00:59.17 | justinu | iDunno: it's raining here too |
| 01:00.06 | drray | why can't they do astricon in vegas? |
| 01:00.20 | Qwell[] | drray: petition them :p |
| 01:00.44 | drray | no, it's retarded to do them in terrible places |
| 01:01.02 | Qwell[] | Dallas is a good place. So was Anaheim |
| 01:01.39 | drray | Dallas is a shithole |
| 01:02.39 | justinu | lol, agreed |
| 01:03.19 | justinu | lol |
| 01:03.20 | drray | and Anaheim is basically Dallas in LA |
| 01:03.43 | Qwell[] | Anaheim had a great dive bar, right up the street from the hotel. :p |
| 01:04.23 | xheliox | haha |
| 01:04.29 | xheliox | That's always critical. |
| 01:04.33 | MikeJ[Laptop] | what year is it? |
| 01:04.40 | Qwell[] | MikeJ[Laptop]: Where are you? |
| 01:04.52 | MikeJ[Laptop] | in my living room, next to the fire |
| 01:04.57 | Qwell[] | Which is located where? |
| 01:05.02 | trixter | in his house |
| 01:05.04 | MikeJ[Laptop] | on nadine |
| 01:05.10 | xheliox | On a street. |
| 01:05.11 | Qwell[] | in which neighborhood? |
| 01:05.13 | xheliox | In a neighborhood. |
| 01:05.14 | MikeJ[Laptop] | yeah.. what he said ^^^^ |
| 01:05.19 | MikeJ[Laptop] | :P |
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| 01:05.29 | xheliox | With other houses and people in the area. |
| 01:05.33 | xheliox | Probably with a mailbox. |
| 01:05.35 | MikeJ[Laptop] | indeed |
| 01:05.41 | trixter | he isnt here then |
| 01:05.42 | MikeJ[Laptop] | yes.. we have one of those... |
| 01:05.43 | Qwell[] | ahh, okay, I know the area |
| 01:05.45 | Qwell[] | it's 2005 there |
| 01:05.48 | justinu | it's 2005 here |
| 01:05.50 | MikeJ[Laptop] | thanks |
| 01:05.51 | trixter | no mailboxes (they dont deliver here) and not really other people |
| 01:05.56 | xheliox | It's 2005 anywhere that actually matters. ;) |
| 01:06.04 | justinu | lol |
| 01:06.05 | xheliox | And South America. |
| 01:06.07 | thazza | Its truely 2007 |
| 01:06.20 | MikeJ[Laptop] | what about you alaws... what year is it? |
| 01:06.33 | Qwell[] | silly new laws taking effect tonight |
| 01:06.41 | Qwell[] | kids need permission to get piercings. heh |
| 01:07.04 | xheliox | Aww damn, that's going to put my part time piercing right out of business. :-/ |
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| 01:07.07 | drray | I'm too old, I don't get piercings |
| 01:07.44 | Fubster | so, do i have to change the bitrate to get my mohmp3s working? if so, what do i need to change it to? the voip-wiki makes a very vague reference to a format that may or may not cause a segmentation fault (?)... |
| 01:07.46 | xheliox | You don't need to be young to get piercings. Just cool. :) |
| 01:07.55 | Nugget | I see kids walking down the street with their face stapled shut, griping that they can't find a good job, and I just shake my head. |
| 01:08.03 | drray | there is nothing cool about piercings |
| 01:08.17 | Qwell[] | drray: it is if you use stainless steel, and put it in the freezer |
| 01:08.34 | NewSole | drray> it make a good holder to put leash on |
| 01:08.36 | justinu | drray: i'm with you |
| 01:08.38 | drray | nugget - I want to be different just like everyone else |
| 01:09.09 | drray | I feel bad a bit, because I won't date women with piercings or tattoos |
| 01:09.18 | drray | which thins the herd a bit |
| 01:09.20 | NewSole | just hook the dog leash to thier nose ring |
| 01:09.25 | Qwell[] | bbl |
| 01:09.42 | xheliox | drray: Yeah, I'm sure that's what keeps you apart from the ladies. :) |
| 01:09.48 | justinu | drray: no tramp stamps? |
| 01:09.56 | drray | no tramp stamps |
| 01:09.58 | tzanger | tramp stamps? |
| 01:10.01 | drray | no fat chicks |
| 01:10.03 | drray | either |
| 01:10.10 | justinu | tramp stamp is a tatoo above the ass |
| 01:10.15 | drray | not that there is anything wrong with that |
| 01:10.22 | tzanger | hahahahaha |
| 01:10.23 | justinu | what if she has a tramp stamp, but you don't find out until you get her clothes off |
| 01:10.25 | tzanger | my ex wife has one of those |
| 01:10.28 | justinu | lol |
| 01:10.31 | drray | I'm just not fishing from that pier anymore |
| 01:10.45 | justinu | tzanger: i can't believe you never heard that then |
| 01:10.45 | NewSole | and ones below the ass is FDA Meat Aproval |
| 01:10.48 | tzanger | justinu: nope |
| 01:10.53 | tzanger | it never did anything for me |
| 01:11.11 | tzanger | NewSole: hahahahah |
| 01:11.15 | Fubster | bah, i'll deal with it some other time |
| 01:11.17 | drray | it's like spray painting marble to me |
| 01:11.28 | tzanger | spray painting a marble? |
| 01:11.40 | NewSole | 100% whore beef |
| 01:11.44 | tzanger | HAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA |
| 01:11.52 | Fubster | marble, as in the very high quality stone that looks better unpainted |
| 01:11.53 | justinu | i wouldn't walk out on a chick because of it, but I'd certainly never call her |
| 01:12.20 | tzanger | I've never seen a tattoo below the ass |
| 01:12.29 | NewSole | Inspected by Agent #12 |
| 01:12.32 | drray | I dated a girl who had her knee all marked up |
| 01:12.33 | justinu | i've seen them on the ankles |
| 01:12.36 | justinu | that's below the ass |
| 01:12.39 | Fubster | but i have to say, if someone had "100% USDA PRIME" stamped on their ass... |
| 01:12.41 | Fubster | i'd call. |
| 01:12.44 | justinu | lol |
| 01:12.56 | tzanger | yes on the ankles... I had a friend who had a rainbow trout (very small) on her ankle back in high school |
| 01:12.57 | NewSole | lol |
| 01:12.58 | brockj49464 | Anyone make the MOH play thru a telephone and then generate a "normal" ring when a call comes in? (think speakerphone for background music) |
| 01:12.59 | Fubster | just so i could get the picture, for no other reason |
| 01:12.59 | tzanger | she was pretty cool though |
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| 01:13.10 | drray | I'm not saying it's stupid, it just does nothing for me |
| 01:13.17 | justinu | it's stupid |
| 01:13.36 | justinu | simply because I don't like it :P |
| 01:13.40 | tzanger | yeah I would have to say that if someone had a tattoo of "100% USDA PRIME" on their ass I'd like ot get to know them |
| 01:13.55 | NewSole | personly I dont mind that law where kids have to get permision to get peirced |
| 01:14.04 | tzanger | me either |
| 01:14.10 | Nugget | http://www.devilducky.com/media/21523/ <-- tramp stamp |
| 01:14.22 | drray | I think the only people who mind are underage (or the peircing pagoda owner) |
| 01:14.23 | NewSole | friend of mine rund a pericing studio |
| 01:14.25 | justinu | what's fucked up is it has to be a law |
| 01:14.45 | drray | you'd think murder wouldn't have to be against the law |
| 01:14.49 | drray | we have to have lawas |
| 01:14.52 | drray | -a |
| 01:14.53 | NewSole | and he had 2 kids younger then 14 wanted to get cock rings |
| 01:14.55 | iDunno | is it?! |
| 01:15.03 | iDunno | 14 kids?! |
| 01:15.08 | drray | cock rings |
| 01:15.14 | NewSole | 14 years old |
| 01:15.21 | Sedorox | damn |
| 01:15.25 | tzanger | haaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahaha |
| 01:15.32 | Sedorox | probably watching too manhy porn |
| 01:15.33 | iDunno | 2 kids, 14, that wanted cock rings?! INSANITY! |
| 01:15.36 | tzanger | I'm sending that to my ex |
| 01:15.39 | drray | we circumcise little boys because they can't keep foreskins clean, how are you going to keep metal clean? |
| 01:16.02 | justinu | Sedorox: that's exactly what it is |
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| 01:16.21 | Sedorox | but still... owe.... |
| 01:16.27 | mrdigital | can anyone recommend a good Asterisk GUI |
| 01:16.31 | mrdigital | like voiceone.it |
| 01:16.32 | Sedorox | for both getting it done.. and doing anything with it afterwards.... |
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| 01:17.03 | |omni| | cool..an asterisk chan |
| 01:17.09 | tzanger | actually no |
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| 01:17.14 | tzanger | we're discussing tramp stamps and cock rings |
| 01:17.18 | tzanger | not necessarily on the same body |
| 01:17.19 | drray | no asterisk spoken here |
| 01:17.22 | NewSole | at that age all they really want ti for is an excuse to play with it |
| 01:17.23 | |omni| | awesome there too |
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| 01:17.30 | drray | we are being prudes |
| 01:17.33 | drray | well, I am |
| 01:17.38 | tzanger | I never needed a reason to play with my cock |
| 01:17.44 | justinu | lol |
| 01:17.54 | |omni| | just finished setting up a real estate office with 1.2.1 and a bunch of Cisco 7960s running chan_sccp2 |
| 01:17.55 | NewSole | teacher... may i please be excused.... my cock ring is stuck in my zipper |
| 01:17.57 | |omni| | working pretty well |
| 01:18.05 | tzanger | FRANK AND BEANS!! FRANK AND BEANS!! |
| 01:18.07 | justinu | cool |
| 01:18.09 | iDunno | hehehe |
| 01:18.28 | iDunno | tzanger: you've watched "there's something about mary" recently, then ;) |
| 01:18.41 | tzanger | iDunno: no but I have to watch it now |
| 01:18.48 | tzanger | I watched the big lebowski last night |
| 01:18.57 | tzanger | my MSN says "and... I'd like my undies back please!" |
| 01:19.05 | justinu | that movie rules |
| 01:19.06 | iDunno | hehe. |
| 01:19.15 | tzanger | yes it rocks |
| 01:19.17 | justinu | big lebowski, that is |
| 01:19.21 | |omni| | services browser on the 79xx phones is pretty cool |
| 01:19.25 | tzanger | it's soooooooooo funny |
| 01:19.34 | justinu | much better than something about mary, imho |
| 01:19.38 | tzanger | true |
| 01:19.42 | tzanger | but I knew a real life mary |
| 01:19.50 | justinu | i need to go watch that now, it's been a while |
| 01:19.52 | tzanger | sat in front of me in algebra |
| 01:20.11 | tzanger | she spun around once and said "We should just run off and get married" -- if I'd have had one ounce of sense in my fucking head I'd have grabbed her hand and left |
| 01:20.28 | drray | like the first guy who married britany spears |
| 01:20.31 | justinu | lol |
| 01:20.50 | tzanger | about 6 years after we graduated I called her up out of the blue and when she said hello the first thing I said was "Do you still want to run off and get married?" |
| 01:20.57 | justinu | der |
| 01:20.59 | tzanger | about 3 or 4 seconds of silence and then "...andrew??" |
| 01:21.01 | tzanger | heh |
| 01:21.06 | justinu | smoove |
| 01:21.08 | iDunno | hehe. |
| 01:21.15 | drray | now she weighs 300 pounds |
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| 01:21.21 | tzanger | we met up that night and while we didn't go get married she did get me to smoke a half pack of cigarettes |
| 01:21.25 | tzanger | haha no she is still amazing |
| 01:21.30 | harryvv | tzanger hehe |
| 01:21.33 | tzanger | she has the same kind of voice that shania twain has |
| 01:21.52 | tzanger | The thing I love about her voice is that you can hear her smile ... it sounds weird but it's awesome |
| 01:21.54 | harryvv | Is she a singer? |
| 01:22.00 | tzanger | no |
| 01:22.09 | tzanger | justinu: hahaha no no I'm not pining for her, she's just cool |
| 01:22.12 | justinu | lol |
| 01:22.13 | justinu | ok |
| 01:22.19 | justinu | you fooled me |
| 01:22.26 | harryvv | Has tried to sing anything when she was around you? |
| 01:22.59 | tzanger | I've got someone who's convinced me that getting married isn't a fool's errand |
| 01:23.06 | tzanger | harryvv: she's sung around me yes |
| 01:23.19 | justinu | i'm engaged |
| 01:23.25 | justinu | married in april |
| 01:23.32 | tzanger | wow congrats :-) |
| 01:23.34 | drray | justinu - don't do it |
| 01:23.36 | justinu | lol |
| 01:23.40 | harryvv | justinu, found any issues yet between you and the wife? |
| 01:23.46 | harryvv | or future wife? |
| 01:23.53 | drray | future ex wife |
| 01:23.57 | justinu | the day we get married will be the 6th anniversary |
| 01:23.59 | tzanger | ooh don't say that man |
| 01:24.01 | harryvv | yea no kidding |
| 01:24.02 | tzanger | that's just too dark |
| 01:24.06 | justinu | i've lived with her for 5 years |
| 01:24.32 | harryvv | me and my wife have some issues. But not going to get into it to much. |
| 01:24.46 | justinu | so far, she's been great |
| 01:24.48 | iDunno | too much, surely? ;) |
| 01:24.54 | justinu | lets me be me |
| 01:24.58 | harryvv | as long as both of you have things in common |
| 01:24.59 | iDunno | justinu: harryvv's wife?! |
| 01:25.01 | justinu | lol yes |
| 01:25.04 | NewSole | what is the def of a Bachelor |
| 01:25.07 | warthog | after you get married you findout what she pretended to like to get your attention. |
| 01:25.12 | justinu | lol |
| 01:25.12 | harryvv | yes idunno my wife |
| 01:25.13 | tzanger | NewSole: dunno |
| 01:25.38 | drray | Women are like houses, cars and speedboats.. you are better off renting than buying |
| 01:25.40 | warthog | funny enough, the pretending wears off.... |
| 01:25.42 | NewSole | Bachelor = some poor slob who is cheating some woman out of alimony |
| 01:25.49 | tzanger | NewSole: hahaha |
| 01:26.09 | justinu | you're better off renting that buying a house? |
| 01:26.15 | justinu | i'm not taking your advice, man |
| 01:26.20 | iDunno | NewSole: heh - and there was me thinking "Batchelor" meant some poor bastard that wasn't getting any, and was trying to get some... |
| 01:26.30 | justinu | lol |
| 01:26.33 | drray | I think you are far better renting than buying a house |
| 01:26.43 | justinu | not if you buy cheap |
| 01:26.51 | harryvv | divorse = a woman who gets everything from the husband because the judge says so. I know of some sobering statistics as a result. |
| 01:26.52 | justinu | my housing costs are nothing now, compared to renting |
| 01:26.53 | tzanger | not if you buy at all |
| 01:26.57 | drray | I bought my condo interest only for that reason |
| 01:27.03 | justinu | you're crazy |
| 01:27.14 | justinu | remind me never to lend you money |
| 01:27.20 | tzanger | you just piss your money away renting |
| 01:27.41 | justinu | if you buy at the top of the market, and can't stay in for 7+ years, you're an idiot |
| 01:27.52 | drray | renting is a fixed cost, you have to pay rent.. the money you waste is money you tie up in equity that earns zero percent |
| 01:27.55 | tzanger | well yes, but that's common fucking sense |
| 01:28.01 | justinu | not for most people |
| 01:28.07 | warthog | justinu, how much of the interest can you wright off with the tax man? |
| 01:28.07 | justinu | or else everyone would have houses |
| 01:28.12 | tzanger | I'm actually downsizing houses |
| 01:28.14 | justinu | warthot: 100% |
| 01:28.15 | warthog | write |
| 01:28.24 | warthog | cool, not such a bad idea |
| 01:28.34 | tzanger | selling 1/2ac+house+barn and moving into a smaller house in the city |
| 01:28.35 | drray | and interest only gives you a better tax break |
| 01:28.36 | justinu | my taxes would be insane if i didn't have a house |
| 01:29.04 | justinu | i dunno, i'm sitting on property that's worth a lot more than I owe on it |
| 01:29.06 | warthog | justinu, you are smart doing that, free rent. |
| 01:29.11 | justinu | so my situation is different than most, i guess |
| 01:29.22 | drray | you make money on a house by appreciation not how much of your money you have into it |
| 01:29.35 | justinu | it did appreciate |
| 01:29.37 | justinu | a lot |
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| 01:29.48 | drray | that's where you make money, not on equity payments |
| 01:29.52 | warthog | justinu, can you write off all of the intrest even if it is an investment house? |
| 01:29.55 | justinu | i plan on keeping the house |
| 01:30.04 | justinu | warthog: not sure about that |
| 01:30.11 | warthog | where do you live? |
| 01:30.13 | justinu | LA |
| 01:30.38 | justinu | prices tripled in 6 years |
| 01:31.11 | warthog | I have read about people who have over 30 houses on interest only loans and turn them over for capital gains only, as long as their income tax burden can support all the intrest |
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| 01:31.32 | justinu | you could theoretically do it |
| 01:31.44 | justinu | but i think about longer term investments |
| 01:31.45 | drray | what kills you is the tax payment |
| 01:31.46 | tzanger | I need to figure out how to buy a house on a pittance |
| 01:31.56 | drray | tzanger - great credit |
| 01:32.00 | justinu | tzanger: it can be done, as long as you can make your payments |
| 01:32.06 | mrdigital | can anyone figure out how to install voiceone? |
| 01:32.08 | file | tzanger: I did *not* steal your undies ... honest |
| 01:32.10 | justinu | they have zero down loands and stuff |
| 01:32.21 | warthog | fyi, if anyone is interested, I have developed a high priority message vm app that calls your pager for alerts over the last 3 days. |
| 01:32.22 | drray | after you hit 680 you can get a NINA loan |
| 01:32.29 | drray | no income no asset verfication loans |
| 01:32.38 | justinu | at what rate? |
| 01:32.40 | tzanger | drray: no no, I'm trying to incorporate to keep my personal income low |
| 01:33.01 | tzanger | and since it's a new corp it is doubtfulI can buy the house through the corp |
| 01:33.10 | drray | tzanger - artofcredit.com has a great section about credit |
| 01:33.21 | drray | and business credit too |
| 01:33.41 | tzanger | interesting |
| 01:33.47 | MooingLemur | I missed out on getting a house here in Phoenix at the really good time. |
| 01:34.16 | MooingLemur | but at least now I have one. $1600+ payment is quite a chunk though. |
| 01:34.34 | warthog | i am moving to sydney in 1 month, going to have to buy a house soon, prices are pretty high |
| 01:34.34 | drray | artofcredit has a post on how to build up business credit |
| 01:34.52 | justinu | that's like a 2 bedroom rent around here |
| 01:34.54 | MooingLemur | Sydney's ridiculous. Brisbane is too now so I hear. |
| 01:35.06 | warthog | doubled in the last 3 years. |
| 01:35.22 | MooingLemur | Phoenix more than doubled in the last 3. |
| 01:35.28 | tzanger | ywah but that won't last forever |
| 01:35.30 | warthog | ouch |
| 01:35.35 | |omni| | anyone know if there is a way to have asterisk return the IP address of registered SCCP devices? sccp show devices doesn't list the IP |
| 01:35.37 | justinu | i'd never live in the desert |
| 01:35.38 | tzanger | I was originally going to sell and rent for a few years for the bubble to pop |
| 01:35.50 | MooingLemur | I love it here. It was 70 degrees today :) |
| 01:35.59 | warthog | same here! |
| 01:36.02 | justinu | it's great in december, but summer sucks |
| 01:36.14 | drray | I was in tempe in 2000-June and like to have died |
| 01:36.32 | MooingLemur | Better than California prices, and better than cold winters. |
| 01:36.33 | warthog | gotta live by the coast, need to surf! |
| 01:36.36 | drray | all the people were like, you should come back in august when it is hot |
| 01:36.44 | justinu | i was in singapore last february, and it was like an oven |
| 01:36.59 | warthog | dry or humid hot |
| 01:37.03 | macTijn | woo |
| 01:37.08 | macTijn | newyear here :) |
| 01:37.09 | justinu | humid, and strong equatorial sun |
| 01:37.15 | MooingLemur | You really do get used to it. And you just go from your A/C'ed house to car to office and back. |
| 01:37.17 | justinu | never been in a place that hot |
| 01:37.26 | drray | I grew up in Texas and I'll never be able to move back after 10 years in seattle.. it's just too hot and humid there |
| 01:37.30 | justinu | MooingLemur: i don't want to live that way |
| 01:37.52 | warthog | it taked about 3 weeks to get used to the 110% humid and hot, as soon as it is ready to go away! |
| 01:37.55 | justinu | i love hong kong too, i'd love to live there |
| 01:37.59 | justinu | but i dunno about that heat |
| 01:38.06 | MooingLemur | I don't like to live in a place where you go to your heated house to your FREEZING car, that finally gets warm enough as soon as you get to work. |
| 01:38.15 | MooingLemur | :) |
| 01:38.18 | justinu | MooingLemur: me neither |
| 01:38.22 | justinu | that's why I live in LA |
| 01:38.28 | MooingLemur | hehe |
| 01:38.32 | justinu | not too hot, not too cold |
| 01:38.35 | warthog | I onced lived through -40C for 6 weeks, never again. |
| 01:38.40 | justinu | wow |
| 01:38.44 | justinu | antartica? |
| 01:38.48 | MooingLemur | but congested and pricy... another tradeoff :) |
| 01:38.57 | justinu | yeah, you can't go anywhere in LA |
| 01:38.59 | warthog | edmonton, that is colder.... |
| 01:39.01 | justinu | wow |
| 01:39.11 | justinu | it's cold here |
| 01:39.14 | justinu | 57 degrees F |
| 01:39.18 | MooingLemur | I've been in -50F in my life. |
| 01:39.18 | justinu | that's cold for LA |
| 01:39.23 | warthog | we won the cup though, made it worth it. |
| 01:39.29 | warthog | not,, |
| 01:39.32 | MooingLemur | The mercury was frozen. |
| 01:39.55 | warthog | my car would not start plugged in.... |
| 01:39.56 | justinu | i've never been to canada, i should go soon |
| 01:40.06 | MooingLemur | I'd like to visit Vancouver |
| 01:40.09 | justinu | me too |
| 01:40.10 | MooingLemur | in the Summer :) |
| 01:40.18 | warthog | nice city but the grey sky kills you. |
| 01:40.19 | MooingLemur | I might take a road trip too. |
| 01:40.31 | MooingLemur | I haven't driven very far in my Prius. |
| 01:40.41 | MooingLemur | Just a lot of driving around here |
| 01:40.43 | justinu | i'm taking a month off for my wedding |
| 01:40.50 | justinu | going to nyc, japan, tahiti |
| 01:40.55 | warthog | as soon as I get to sydney I am getting a roadking, that should be fun. |
| 01:41.11 | warthog | all in one trip? |
| 01:41.19 | justinu | yeah, over a month |
| 01:41.22 | warthog | round the world ticket? |
| 01:41.27 | justinu | not really |
| 01:41.32 | justinu | i'd need way more time for that |
| 01:41.49 | MooingLemur | I might take some time off next Boreal Summer/Austral Winter and go to Australia. |
| 01:41.50 | justinu | LA->NYC->LA->Narita->Tahiti->LA |
| 01:42.16 | warthog | in 1 month you might forget what you do for a living and not remember when you get back!!!! |
| 01:42.23 | justinu | good |
| 01:42.52 | justinu | warthog: what is a roadking? |
| 01:42.59 | warthog | harley |
| 01:43.01 | MooingLemur | we get 26 days of vacation a year where I work.. |
| 01:43.03 | justinu | ah |
| 01:43.38 | MooingLemur | I have 3 weeks left from this year. But at least we get paid for up to that much if we don't use it. |
| 01:43.54 | justinu | i say travel while you can |
| 01:43.55 | warthog | I had to take a year off for medical reasons (my son, pretty bad, but ok now) and I did forget what I do, when I got back to IT, i droped everything else and went straight to asterisk. |
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| 01:45.11 | warthog | no doubt, do it while you are young. |
| 01:45.22 | warthog | then again when you are old... |
| 01:45.28 | warthog | er |
| 01:45.33 | MooingLemur | :) |
| 01:46.07 | MooingLemur | I know someone who just remarried at age 76, and left the country for the first time for his honeymoon. |
| 01:46.19 | tzanger | hmm |
| 01:46.44 | tzanger | I wonder if I can't get a business mortgage backing it with my personal credit (I have great credit right now) |
| 01:46.48 | warthog | I might have done that if I had lived in a brothel all my life. |
| 01:46.55 | justinu | i went to sydney, and thought it was a lot like LA |
| 01:46.58 | tzanger | then quit my job and contract myself through my business |
| 01:47.02 | tzanger | to the company I worked for |
| 01:47.11 | justinu | tzanger: i think you can do that |
| 01:47.22 | tzanger | I have to talk to my accountant. :-) |
| 01:47.25 | tzanger | I'm in .ca too |
| 01:47.28 | warthog | never been to la other than the airport. |
| 01:47.34 | justinu | LA isn't anything special |
| 01:47.37 | justinu | just nice weather |
| 01:47.42 | warthog | were in ca? |
| 01:47.48 | tzanger | midwestern ontario |
| 01:48.00 | justinu | is it -40F there too? |
| 01:48.05 | warthog | was born in sarnia, but I don't admit that to too many |
| 01:48.16 | MooingLemur | speaking of "midwest", Garrison Keillor is on the radio. |
| 01:48.21 | justinu | narnia? |
| 01:48.29 | warthog | ssssssssssssssssarnia |
| 01:48.38 | justinu | no idea what that is :P |
| 01:48.44 | warthog | or better known as chemical valley |
| 01:48.48 | tzanger | warthog: :-) |
| 01:49.15 | justinu | i was thinking of moving to antartica and being a pilot |
| 01:49.27 | justinu | taking research scientists to their bases |
| 01:49.30 | warthog | hope the money is good. |
| 01:49.34 | justinu | probably not |
| 01:49.39 | justinu | just tired of the grind |
| 01:49.43 | MooingLemur | I'd like to go to a pole just to be able to cross the int'l date line at will, and stand in any time zone. |
| 01:49.52 | warthog | I am thinking of getting a chopper license for a part time job |
| 01:49.59 | justinu | expensive to do |
| 01:50.02 | drray | tzanger - you can buy business mortgages (for offices and condos) |
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| 01:50.11 | tzanger | hmm |
| 01:50.37 | warthog | high risk unless you can balance it out with MANY of them I would think... |
| 01:50.56 | benjk | happy new year everyone |
| 01:50.59 | drray | well, I think he was thinking of workspace |
| 01:51.09 | warthog | 2 more hours for me!!! |
| 01:51.16 | drray | but tying up equity in property is stupid (imo) |
| 01:51.16 | justinu | 6 for us |
| 01:51.22 | mrdigital | warthog: have you heard of Voiceone? |
| 01:51.23 | benjk | you're late :) |
| 01:51.31 | drray | 6 plus hours for me |
| 01:51.43 | warthog | not yet, whas that? |
| 01:51.49 | drray | I have a y2k6 problem at work that I have to fix at midnight |
| 01:51.51 | drray | :) |
| 01:51.56 | mrdigital | its a COMPLETE web based interface to Asterisk |
| 01:52.09 | mrdigital | but the site is italian and the thing is in english |
| 01:52.12 | warthog | been using amp so far. |
| 01:52.25 | mrdigital | warthog: it does what amp doesnt do and what amp can do |
| 01:52.27 | drray | it's amazing the barriers people will put in between them getting asterisk working |
| 01:52.37 | benjk | I doubt there can be any such thing as a *complete* web interface to Asterisk |
| 01:52.48 | justinu | lol |
| 01:52.51 | mrdigital | benjk: want to see screenshots and features list? |
| 01:52.58 | drray | I wrote some simple perl tools for bossman |
| 01:53.18 | benjk | unless its just a web based text editor for remote config files |
| 01:53.19 | warthog | their are no barriers if you can use cutom files, I have many unpeople that have to manage these systems, not just me. |
| 01:53.25 | drray | asterisk does too many things ( some of which have not been invented yet) to have a complete GUI |
| 01:53.31 | Strom_C | well isnt that just lovely...the asterisk box suffered a catastrophic dual-hard-drive failure |
| 01:53.38 | justinu | unpeople? |
| 01:53.43 | Strom_C | today is not my day :/ |
| 01:53.54 | drray | Strom - sounds like tomorrow wont be either |
| 01:54.02 | justinu | storm: told you you shoulda just put tape over the bad port |
| 01:54.05 | warthog | people who have a hard time pealing a banana and love windows. |
| 01:54.08 | mrdigital | http://demo.voiceone.it/ |
| 01:54.09 | benjk | mrdigital: does it support zeroconf? |
| 01:54.13 | mrdigital | user: root password: voiceone |
| 01:54.16 | mrdigital | zeroconf is? |
| 01:54.17 | justinu | wartog: lol, unpeople |
| 01:54.29 | benjk | service discovery |
| 01:54.37 | justinu | unpersons is what I called people who got fired at a company I used to work for |
| 01:54.39 | benjk | I don't think it does |
| 01:54.46 | justinu | you were nnever allowed to speak of them again |
| 01:54.49 | benjk | does it support Woomera? |
| 01:54.59 | mrdigital | check the demo out benjk |
| 01:55.07 | warthog | as soon as you demand windoes you become an unperson to me. |
| 01:55.08 | benjk | justinu: sounds like the mafia |
| 01:55.27 | justinu | i run windows at home :( |
| 01:55.34 | justinu | but all my business critical shit is unix |
| 01:55.37 | benjk | mrdigital: the point is that it is *impossible* to be complete |
| 01:55.55 | mrdigital | benjk: can you figure out how to isntall this? |
| 01:55.59 | warthog | I have not run m$ windoes for about a year and I have never been happier |
| 01:56.08 | mrdigital | warthog: mac? |
| 01:56.16 | justinu | i have a powerbook |
| 01:56.28 | justinu | good hacking box |
| 01:56.36 | benjk | I haven't run Windows for years |
| 01:56.41 | warthog | linux, stinkpad, tiger is a bit tooo gui for me but I like the fact it is out there. |
| 01:56.51 | Nugget | yay macs. |
| 01:57.01 | Nugget | os x is only as gui as you want it to be. |
| 01:57.04 | justinu | i need to run crap like nikon capture 4 |
| 01:57.12 | justinu | which sucks on anything but the fastest macs |
| 01:57.15 | benjk | and I have never run Windows since 1995 for anything other than testing how a website looks when seen in a Windows browser |
| 01:57.32 | benjk | ah yes, once I made screenshots of X-Lite under Virtual PC |
| 01:57.59 | Nugget | I keep windows around for IE and for Quicken, that's it. I have a headless XP box in the server room and I use remote desktop to access it |
| 01:58.14 | warthog | I could only switch last year when enough apps showed up, like firefox, evolution, nvu, video editors, skype, armonk |
| 01:58.26 | warthog | that were good enough |
| 01:58.28 | Nugget | os x is the best of both worlds. It's unix but it has fonts that don't suck and you can run msoffice. |
| 01:58.34 | benjk | I don't care anymore how my website looks on Windows |
| 01:58.39 | benjk | its their problem |
| 01:58.42 | warthog | openoffice |
| 01:58.45 | benjk | they can download Firefox |
| 01:58.54 | Nugget | openoffice is ncie in theory, but fails in practice. for me, at least. |
| 01:59.00 | Nugget | s/ncie/nice/ |
| 01:59.01 | drray | I play magic online, or I'd fire windos |
| 01:59.03 | drray | windows |
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| 01:59.06 | benjk | if they view it with IE and something looks weird, their loss |
| 01:59.20 | warthog | I love OOo, it works great for me, 2.0 is very slick. |
| 01:59.22 | justinu | magic? |
| 01:59.28 | drray | magic the gathering |
| 01:59.29 | justinu | the card game? |
| 01:59.36 | drray | yes |
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| 01:59.45 | justinu | haven't played that in a while |
| 01:59.51 | drray | I never played the physical version |
| 02:00.03 | drray | but I'm a junkie sometimes for the online version |
| 02:00.05 | justinu | how much does it cost to play online? |
| 02:00.14 | drray | once you own your cards, nothing |
| 02:00.21 | justinu | interesting |
| 02:00.22 | drray | otherwise, the same as real life |
| 02:00.26 | justinu | link? |
| 02:00.31 | drray | there is an economy to it |
| 02:00.38 | drray | www.wizards.com |
| 02:00.45 | drray | it's windows only |
| 02:00.47 | warthog | nugget, you might want to take a look at a recent linux distro, I use opensuse10 and it is quite good, msfonts are part of the deal, it is very nice. |
| 02:00.56 | justinu | i can do windows |
| 02:01.03 | benjk | justinu: are you running * on OSX? |
| 02:01.07 | justinu | i have |
| 02:01.14 | drray | the best part of it is 100% rules enforcement |
| 02:01.16 | Nugget | what makes you think I'm unfamiliar with recent linux? |
| 02:01.29 | justinu | drray: right, no arguments |
| 02:01.35 | drray | well second best, 1st best is you don't have to smell your oposition |
| 02:01.37 | Nugget | neither xfree86 or x.org can do fonts right, it's not a linux issue at all. |
| 02:01.39 | justinu | lol |
| 02:01.59 | warthog | you put down linux fonts and oOO, I suspected that perhaps you have not worked daily with the latest and greatest desktop |
| 02:02.02 | drray | I went to a pre-release (paper) and it stinks |
| 02:02.20 | Nugget | OOO still falls down if you have to share files with "real" office users. |
| 02:02.21 | drray | why can't people just use what they want? |
| 02:02.30 | Nugget | I agree that it's acceptable if you're just creating documents and printing them |
| 02:02.42 | Nugget | and x11 can't do fonts well at all. |
| 02:02.51 | Nugget | it doesn't support proper kerning |
| 02:03.16 | drray | linux needs a framebuffer window manager |
| 02:03.41 | justinu | can I send them my phyiscal cards, and have them converted to electronic versions? |
| 02:03.54 | Nugget | windows and os x are a decade ahead of x11 when it comes to desktop fundamentals, and the gap is growing, not closing. |
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| 02:04.20 | drray | X11 is great for networking of resources |
| 02:04.28 | benjk | justinu: I have got app_cepstral working on OSX, now working on app_conference |
| 02:04.36 | brockj49464 | did you see http://www.voiceone.it/wiki/index.php/PmWiki/InitialSetupTasks |
| 02:04.37 | drray | but for I want to print and look at porn , X11 stinks |
| 02:04.53 | brockj49464 | opps wrong tab |
| 02:05.08 | MooingLemur | don't misspell oops. |
| 02:05.10 | warthog | perhaps if it is really that important, but speed and stability and all I need and more is here are more... |
| 02:05.12 | MooingLemur | :) |
| 02:05.31 | justinu | benjk: nice |
| 02:05.44 | Nugget | I thought that too, but then when I switched to os x I realized that I just didn't know what I was missing. :) |
| 02:06.01 | Nugget | I was happy enough with linux on the desktop back when I didn't realize what os x could do |
| 02:06.15 | Nugget | you couldn't pay me to go back now, though |
| 02:06.18 | warthog | when they have a intel powerbook next year (2 hours away) I will get one and play. |
| 02:06.22 | drray | I can't stand the finder. |
| 02:06.30 | justinu | yeah, i'm waiting for an intel powerbook myself |
| 02:06.35 | justinu | before giving apple any more money |
| 02:06.42 | justinu | the os 9 finder was a lot better |
| 02:06.49 | justinu | way more intuitive |
| 02:06.50 | drray | justinu - amen brother |
| 02:06.52 | benjk | I also hope to get MoH working |
| 02:07.25 | benjk | then I will release a new installation package together with a bunch of new GUI front ends |
| 02:07.55 | warthog | later guys, I gotta finish this voicemail modification..... happy new year |
| 02:08.00 | justinu | yep, you too |
| 02:08.07 | Nugget | I run asterisk on my powerbook because it's easier to use IAX when I'm behind some cruddy hotel nat. |
| 02:08.18 | drray | If I can get windowsXP working on a powerbook, that would be awesome |
| 02:08.23 | Nugget | I use x-lite to talk to the local asterisk and then iax to get out to my main asterisk server |
| 02:08.46 | warthog | why not use a iax soft phone |
| 02:09.01 | Nugget | I haven't found one I like as much as x-lite |
| 02:09.05 | warthog | iaxclient with a frontend |
| 02:09.19 | justinu | xlite sucks |
| 02:09.26 | warthog | later... |
| 02:09.51 | justinu | xlite especially sucks on OSX |
| 02:09.53 | benjk | Nugget: http://www.astmasters.net/howtos.html -> "Localhost Gateway for X-Lite" ;) |
| 02:09.58 | NewSole | tick... tock.. tick.. tock... soon time to watch the clock... |
| 02:10.19 | Nugget | spiffy |
| 02:10.22 | MooingLemur | sounds like that black and white show on GSN late at night |
| 02:10.26 | MooingLemur | beat the clock |
| 02:10.35 | benjk | Nugget: you can use Christian Draghici's LoudHush IAX softphone (Cocoa based) |
| 02:10.46 | Nugget | oh, I don't think I've seen that one |
| 02:11.00 | justinu | someone was telling me the gizmo phone works well on mac os |
| 02:11.05 | justinu | but i guess it's not unlockable |
| 02:11.07 | benjk | its 17 USD shareware, but a very nice Cocoa app |
| 02:11.16 | Nugget | cool |
| 02:11.29 | benjk | justinu: yes it does, but only for gizmo |
| 02:11.33 | NewSole | http://www.loudhush.ro/ |
| 02:11.38 | benjk | the nicest softphone on OSX is LoudHush |
| 02:11.43 | justinu | romania? |
| 02:11.56 | benjk | also, zoa told me they are working on a Mac version of Idefisk |
| 02:12.06 | benjk | yes, Christian is in RO |
| 02:12.07 | tzanger | .ro makes some amazing women too |
| 02:12.11 | justinu | i've been |
| 02:12.14 | justinu | odd place |
| 02:12.21 | benjk | I used to live in Bucharest, nice place |
| 02:12.26 | justinu | wow |
| 02:12.29 | justinu | seemed strange to me |
| 02:12.41 | justinu | went back to budapest, and thought "ok, i'm back in the real world" |
| 02:12.54 | MooingLemur | Romania makes me think of two things |
| 02:13.13 | benjk | Hungary was always very Western even during the cold war |
| 02:13.15 | tzanger | the woman I'm gonna marry is .ro |
| 02:13.24 | MooingLemur | Dragostea Din Tei, and the lady that had the 160 pound tumor. |
| 02:13.37 | justinu | i went all over, bucharest, sinia, brad, deva, kluj, etc. |
| 02:13.52 | justinu | tzanger: from where? |
| 02:14.01 | tzanger | well she's been in .ca 5 years |
| 02:14.10 | justinu | yeah, but where from in romanina |
| 02:14.21 | tzanger | originally from (I think) dorbeta tr-severn |
| 02:14.25 | tzanger | that first word may be wrong |
| 02:14.28 | justinu | ok, didn't go there |
| 02:15.27 | justinu | i was always amazed at the number of people just standing around in romania |
| 02:15.28 | *** join/#asterisk ChkDigit (n=ChkDigit@static65-87-226-124.regina.accesscomm.ca) |
| 02:15.42 | tzanger | yeah? |
| 02:15.50 | benjk | justinu: when have you been to RO ? |
| 02:15.53 | benjk | which year? |
| 02:15.56 | justinu | um, 2000 |
| 02:16.09 | justinu | i had some friends who worked for romtelecom |
| 02:16.26 | benjk | you should have seen the place before 1997 |
| 02:16.42 | benjk | before the two GSM mobile phone networks started |
| 02:16.48 | justinu | how was it different? |
| 02:16.56 | benjk | I was part of the team building Connex |
| 02:17.00 | justinu | cool |
| 02:17.19 | benjk | before it was very very poor, like it used to be in the cold war days |
| 02:17.43 | benjk | in the one year we and France Telecom built the GSM service, the place lightened up |
| 02:18.03 | benjk | it was the best education in market economics you can possibly get |
| 02:18.13 | justinu | heh |
| 02:18.24 | benjk | we hired about 1000 locals, France Telecom hired about 1000 locals |
| 02:18.50 | benjk | we paid them salaries 5-10 times over the level that was usual |
| 02:19.02 | benjk | ca 300-600 USD a month |
| 02:19.11 | justinu | there's a lot of smart guys, but my friends told me the corruption of communism made everyone act like theives |
| 02:19.26 | justinu | like these girls I met, couldn't believe that pizza hut would deliver them a pizza |
| 02:19.31 | benjk | this pumped money in the local economy and many many new small businesses sprung up |
| 02:19.38 | justinu | so they ordered one, and the guy came, and they just took the pizza and slamed the door in his face |
| 02:19.42 | justinu | then laughed about it all night |
| 02:20.01 | benjk | also it was impossible to get a telephone line, the average waiting period with Romtelecom was 12 years |
| 02:20.06 | justinu | lol |
| 02:20.30 | benjk | when we launched prepaid mobile (my project) people could afford a phone |
| 02:20.41 | justinu | sounds like a great project |
| 02:20.46 | justinu | i'd love to be involved with something like that |
| 02:21.01 | benjk | we sold a package, handset and SIM card with 25 USD credit for 100 USD |
| 02:21.08 | justinu | not wireless tho, i don't like wireless phones |
| 02:21.26 | benjk | soon people could open up businesses using the prepaid phones |
| 02:21.37 | benjk | and mobile phone stores also sprung up |
| 02:22.09 | benjk | we even installed GSM payphones in villages that didn't have any telephone service at all |
| 02:22.25 | justinu | did you ever get a chance to go to that castle in sinia? |
| 02:22.39 | benjk | we built our own microwave network all over RO so we wouldn't have to rely on Romtelecom for interconnecting cities and regions |
| 02:23.10 | benjk | our CEO was elected man of the year in 1997 |
| 02:23.47 | *** join/#asterisk smirl (n=owned@68-169-204-147.agstme.adelphia.net) |
| 02:23.50 | benjk | Sinaia you mean |
| 02:23.57 | justinu | yeah... i can't spell in romanian |
| 02:24.04 | benjk | :) |
| 02:24.08 | smirl | anybody here ever been in 2600 ? |
| 02:24.14 | justinu | multsimesc |
| 02:24.17 | benjk | yeah, lovely place |
| 02:24.20 | benjk | mutumesc |
| 02:24.23 | benjk | multumesc |
| 02:24.33 | benjk | multebine multumesc |
| 02:24.34 | benjk | ;) |
| 02:24.59 | justinu | i spoke french to a catholic priest in deva, because he didn't understand english, and I didn't undestand romanian |
| 02:25.07 | benjk | the language is rather easy to pick up if you speak Italian, Spanish or French |
| 02:25.15 | smirl | http://www.iPBXtelephony.com |
| 02:25.18 | justinu | grammar seemed harder than french |
| 02:26.07 | benjk | I had to read Romanian tech documentation and I could read most of it -- it looked similar to French tech docs |
| 02:26.26 | benjk | they even seem to have adopted those specially created French IT words |
| 02:26.27 | justinu | i just remember that CO is "centrala telefonica" |
| 02:26.35 | benjk | :) |
| 02:26.45 | justinu | yeah, they got a lot of their telco technology from Alcatel |
| 02:27.07 | benjk | they got a lot of support from France during the cold war |
| 02:27.29 | benjk | the local cars used to be Renault mods, licensed from Renault |
| 02:27.38 | justinu | yeah, the dacia |
| 02:27.43 | benjk | now its Hyundai |
| 02:27.57 | benjk | the Koreans invested heavily in the place |
| 02:27.58 | justinu | hmm... it was still something like "automobili dacia" when I was there |
| 02:28.12 | justinu | but daewoo was big |
| 02:28.14 | benjk | ah daewoo, yes |
| 02:28.19 | benjk | not Hyundai |
| 02:28.38 | benjk | my wife was always assumed to be a "Koreana" |
| 02:28.53 | justinu | is she asian? |
| 02:28.56 | benjk | usually its the other way round, people think Koreans are Japanese |
| 02:28.59 | benjk | she's Japanese |
| 02:29.02 | justinu | ah |
| 02:29.06 | justinu | but romanian? |
| 02:29.23 | tzanger | huh? |
| 02:29.28 | benjk | no I just worked there for about a year to help build Connex |
| 02:29.30 | justinu | oh ok |
| 02:29.49 | justinu | was there still a shitload of stray dogs in bucharest? |
| 02:29.55 | justinu | roaming all over the place |
| 02:30.01 | benjk | but my roots are Czech and my family name is a common name in Romania too |
| 02:30.13 | benjk | yeah the dogs |
| 02:30.15 | justinu | i remember being at the piatsa univeristati |
| 02:30.37 | justinu | and they have this huge underground mall under the traffic circle |
| 02:30.47 | justinu | but they had just ripped out the escalators taking you down there |
| 02:30.48 | benjk | I had an apartment on Bulevardul Unirii |
| 02:30.59 | justinu | they didn't bother covering up like they do here |
| 02:31.07 | justinu | it was just a mess of twisted rusted metal |
| 02:31.12 | justinu | left out for everyone to see |
| 02:31.34 | justinu | and I remember seeing this most amazing 12th century castle in hunanduara |
| 02:31.48 | *** join/#asterisk IRCFrEAK (n=jircii@c220-239-18-20.belrs4.nsw.optusnet.com.au) |
| 02:31.49 | benjk | well, I presume this was just a matter of not having enough funds |
| 02:31.52 | justinu | right across the road from a shitty abandoned strip mining operation |
| 02:32.05 | *** join/#asterisk J4k3 (i=j4k3@node161-157-88-65.1dial.com) |
| 02:32.06 | justinu | weird ass contrasts there in romania |
| 02:32.25 | *** join/#asterisk Qwell[] (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/qwell) |
| 02:32.28 | justinu | i dig romanian food tho |
| 02:32.33 | IRCFrEAK | Hi guys |
| 02:32.34 | justinu | and hungarian food |
| 02:32.34 | benjk | Romanians are not necessarily careless and the ones who are educated have excellent education |
| 02:32.55 | justinu | i loved all those old soviet style buildings too |
| 02:33.00 | justinu | like the press building |
| 02:33.06 | justinu | and the "house of the people" |
| 02:33.12 | benjk | give this country a bit of time and they will have a comeback |
| 02:33.29 | benjk | yeah that was just 200 yards down from my apartment |
| 02:33.39 | benjk | Casa Populurui |
| 02:33.45 | justinu | that's a nice neighborhood |
| 02:33.50 | benjk | the largest building in the world |
| 02:33.55 | benjk | by floorspace |
| 02:33.57 | IRCFrEAK | can anybody give me a pointer with an asterisk configuration? |
| 02:34.02 | benjk | larger than the Pentagon |
| 02:34.11 | tzanger | benjk: eh? |
| 02:34.15 | justinu | you lived on that street that was designed all nice? |
| 02:34.23 | justinu | the one that led all the way to the people house? |
| 02:34.30 | benjk | IRCFrEAK: ---> /etc/asterisk |
| 02:34.37 | benjk | there's your pointer |
| 02:34.50 | benjk | yes, it's called Bulevardul Unirii |
| 02:34.57 | IRCFrEAK | thanks man yeah I found that one already |
| 02:35.01 | justinu | yeah, i remember that area... lots of huge billboards |
| 02:35.04 | benjk | I was given an apartment there by Connex |
| 02:35.05 | justinu | a big ass traffic circle |
| 02:35.25 | smirl | IRCFrEAK I have a sec |
| 02:35.35 | *** join/#asterisk coppice (n=chatzill@124.155.17.210.dyn.pacific.net.hk) |
| 02:35.37 | benjk | tzanger: yes, it's bigger than the Pentagon by floorspace |
| 02:35.42 | IRCFrEAK | cheers smirl. |
| 02:35.43 | justinu | coppice |
| 02:35.47 | justinu | happy new years |
| 02:36.03 | coppice | its already faily old here |
| 02:36.10 | benjk | the Pentagon is only bigger by ground area covered |
| 02:36.15 | IRCFrEAK | I have an x100p setup I am trying to get working |
| 02:36.17 | justinu | that building is huge, and it's built up on a pedastal, so it looks even bigger |
| 02:36.37 | IRCFrEAK | the zaptel module is loaded and the card is working properly |
| 02:36.44 | coppice | the biggest building in the world by ground area is HK airport terminal building |
| 02:36.57 | justinu | yeah, that airport is great |
| 02:36.59 | benjk | it is bigger, but Pentagon is spread out over a lager area |
| 02:37.18 | IRCFrEAK | I resolved a port conflict with cyrus & asterisk seems to be set up correctly now |
| 02:37.32 | *** join/#asterisk kyo (n=kio@ool-4577adba.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 02:37.33 | benjk | coppice, in that case Pentagon is not even biggest in any discipline anymore |
| 02:37.43 | justinu | it's a has been |
| 02:38.00 | justinu | bunch of dumbasses in there anyways |
| 02:38.09 | IRCFrEAK | I can use a client to log into asterisk and it connects fine. But im not sure howto dial a call or if it is even setup properly to use the line |
| 02:38.10 | benjk | well, not all of them |
| 02:38.37 | benjk | in fact, if you look at recent events, the Pentagon folks were more sane than the US government and all other agencies |
| 02:38.52 | benjk | CIA too of course |
| 02:38.52 | justinu | i just meant the civillians |
| 02:39.30 | IRCFrEAK | chan_iax2.c:5026 register_verify: Empty registration from 10.0.0.113 |
| 02:39.30 | IRCFrEAK | Jan 1 13:38:53 NOTICE[12592]: chan_iax2.c:6796 socket_read: Rejected connect attempt from 10.0.0.113, request '0405490797@default' does not exist |
| 02:40.00 | coppice | the pentagon didn't want these wars. their expectations were close to the messy reality. i'd say the pentagon has been surprisingly sane, unlike the cold war years |
| 02:40.02 | IRCFrEAK | that is the error that I receive |
| 02:40.05 | benjk | do you have a user [default] in iax.conf? |
| 02:40.13 | IRCFrEAK | Do I have to set up a group or something? |
| 02:40.31 | tzanger | benjk: cool |
| 02:41.48 | IRCFrEAK | benjk. Um.. no. I just followed some instructions that said to set up sip.conf |
| 02:42.21 | smirl | IRCFrEAK first off, have you gotten your zaptel config to load, ztcfg starts and exits cleanly? |
| 02:42.42 | IRCFrEAK | smirl: Yes it does |
| 02:42.47 | smirl | IRCFrEAK have you configured /etc/zaptel.conf ? |
| 02:43.02 | IRCFrEAK | smirl: yes |
| 02:43.37 | IRCFrEAK | I added fxsks=1 to the end |
| 02:43.38 | robl^ | hrrmmm... should I get a MacMini for another Asterisk server? :) |
| 02:43.55 | smirl | And you have the ports configured for kewl start and are set either as FXO or FXS? How many channels you sing again? Just 1 ? |
| 02:44.17 | IRCFrEAK | correct |
| 02:45.24 | *** join/#asterisk toddf (n=toddf@66-90-162-82.dyn.grandenetworks.net) |
| 02:45.47 | smirl | aren't you feeding dialtone into it? |
| 02:46.49 | IRCFrEAK | Feeding dialtone? I have the X100p connected to the phone line. Do I need another channel? |
| 02:46.57 | smirl | next you need to configure zapata.conf in /etc/asterisk |
| 02:47.09 | smirl | no |
| 02:47.12 | justinu | what happened to our nice non-asterisk new years eve chat? |
| 02:47.14 | justinu | damnnit |
| 02:47.22 | smirl | fxo/fxs I get the 2 confused when i'm high sorry |
| 02:47.49 | smirl | someone help me here... you plug a phone line into an fxo, don't you ? |
| 02:47.50 | justinu | hah |
| 02:47.54 | justinu | yes |
| 02:47.58 | coppice | new year's eve is sooooo yesterday |
| 02:48.03 | justinu | quiet, you |
| 02:48.42 | IRCFrEAK | smirl: lol. Yes zapata should be ok |
| 02:49.07 | IRCFrEAK | Maybe. I don't know |
| 02:49.16 | IRCFrEAK | What do I have to put in there again? |
| 02:49.49 | smirl | you have to define the cahnnels... you found the woip-info wiki yet i hope |
| 02:50.03 | IRCFrEAK | Yes I have |
| 02:50.06 | IRCFrEAK | context=default |
| 02:50.06 | IRCFrEAK | channel => 1 |
| 02:50.50 | IRCFrEAK | I think I have just missed the crucial bit that connects a user to the fxo |
| 02:51.03 | justinu | ok, i'm a nerd |
| 02:51.09 | justinu | i just signed up for magic online |
| 02:51.19 | Qwell[] | M:tG? |
| 02:51.21 | justinu | yes |
| 02:51.22 | Qwell[] | yes, yes you are |
| 02:51.28 | Nugget | nerd! |
| 02:51.30 | justinu | i remember playing it in high school |
| 02:51.41 | justinu | seemed like a decent way to pass the time |
| 02:52.09 | NewSole | vegastream> Looking back through the trace, the Vega detects the following digits in this order after the call is connected:"***2345678" |
| 02:52.10 | NewSole | vegastream> The Asterisk is not accepting the DTMF tones from the Vega, but I don't know why. We are sending the tones out base on the trace you sent me. |
| 02:52.16 | NewSole | can someone please explain |
| 02:52.30 | NewSole | explain why that is |
| 02:53.20 | Qwell[] | NewSole: bad dtmfmode? What technology is this? |
| 02:53.23 | justinu | playing that game online seems like a lot more fun |
| 02:53.37 | Qwell[] | justinu: which one, the real one, where it actually costs money? |
| 02:53.51 | justinu | yes |
| 02:53.56 | Qwell[] | meh |
| 02:54.02 | justinu | does that one suck? |
| 02:54.20 | NewSole | Qwell[] Vega's are PRI Transcoders |
| 02:54.32 | Qwell[] | justinu: well, it costs money |
| 02:54.43 | justinu | it's just like buying the stupid cards for real |
| 02:54.54 | Qwell[] | and not just that...it costs the same as real physical items |
| 02:55.00 | Qwell[] | so, yeah, it sucks :P |
| 02:55.04 | justinu | what did you do, make photocopies of the cards and play like that? |
| 02:55.21 | smirl | IRCFrEAK, now you need something in extensions.conf to make a dial plan |
| 02:55.34 | NewSole | Vega works well with REAL SIP Products..... but not fake SIP like Asterisk |
| 02:55.39 | justinu | lol |
| 02:55.46 | justinu | there's no REAL sip product |
| 02:55.51 | Qwell[] | NewSole: Then don't use Asterisk... |
| 02:55.57 | smirl | IRCFrEAK, under the heading [default] |
| 02:56.00 | justinu | sip is an "evolving standard" |
| 02:56.01 | Qwell[] | but, like I said, check the dtmfmode |
| 02:56.07 | slappingt | got my asterisk server up and have voicemail working. Now for the hard part convincing my wife it was all worth while :) |
| 02:56.18 | NewSole | dtmfmode=rfc2833 |
| 02:56.33 | Qwell[] | NewSole: does that match the vega? |
| 02:56.41 | IRCFrEAK | smirl: yep |
| 02:56.53 | smirl | do you have anything there now? |
| 02:57.07 | smirl | IRCFrEAK do you have anything there now? |
| 02:57.23 | IRCFrEAK | no |
| 02:57.42 | IRCFrEAK | sorry I have include => demo |
| 02:57.56 | smirl | ok, gor incomming calls you need something like this: |
| 02:58.01 | IRCFrEAK | everything else is commented out under default |
| 02:58.17 | Qwell[] | IRCFrEAK: good, don't use the default context |
| 02:58.26 | justinu | my wife is just happy to have the ctu ringtone on her phone |
| 02:58.29 | smirl | [default] |
| 02:58.31 | justinu | she thinks it's l337 |
| 02:58.35 | NewSole | rfc2833 is a Std.... if Asterisk says its Supports the rfc2833 there a match should not be problem and besides if vega can talk to cisco and sipura... who use rfc2833 then why is not when I put dtmfmode=rfc2833 it should be rfc2833 mode |
| 02:58.45 | smirl | exten => _X,Dial(ZAP/1) |
| 02:58.53 | Qwell[] | NewSole: the cisco and sipura can use others as well, just like Asterisk can |
| 02:58.58 | Qwell[] | So, find out what the Vega is using |
| 02:59.02 | smirl | ooope |
| 02:59.03 | justinu | hey qwell: you don't have to pay sales tax on the cards in virtual magic :P |
| 02:59.10 | smirl | IRC Phdon't do that |
| 02:59.11 | smirl | lol |
| 02:59.26 | justinu | asterisk supports rfc2833 just fine |
| 02:59.35 | IRCFrEAK | ok got it |
| 02:59.40 | smirl | exten => _X,1,Dial(SIP/200) |
| 02:59.49 | IRCFrEAK | ok done |
| 03:00.03 | smirl | not the last line i said |
| 03:00.17 | smirl | replace 200 with whatever your client extension is |
| 03:00.27 | smirl | from sip.conf |
| 03:02.19 | SkramX | Anyone used: http://web.csma.biz/apps/xml_xmldir.php ? |
| 03:03.30 | IRCFrEAK | ok I'll give it a go |
| 03:03.46 | Qwell[] | smirl: You really shouldn't use default for anything |
| 03:04.22 | smirl | it's his first setup, and since his zapata.conf was already setup that way... |
| 03:04.41 | smirl | i would expect he'll improve the dial plan beyond this ... |
| 03:04.46 | Qwell[] | well, if you teach him to use the default context, how will he ever learn? |
| 03:04.55 | Qwell[] | "They said it was okay to use on IRC, so I'll use it." |
| 03:06.07 | smirl | IRCFrEAK, the default context name is only used in examples and shouldn't be used for a deployed server. |
| 03:06.26 | IRCFrEAK | smirl: cool, noted |
| 03:06.29 | smirl | IRCFrEAK you can use whatever name suits your taste... |
| 03:06.40 | *** join/#asterisk mogorman (n=mogorman@user-24-236-84-48.knology.net) |
| 03:06.46 | *** join/#asterisk bch (n=bch@CPE-70-92-131-59.mn.res.rr.com) |
| 03:06.59 | IRCFrEAK | I am using iaxphone but I think I will try xlite. It is sip right? |
| 03:07.07 | Qwell[] | yes |
| 03:07.52 | IRCFrEAK | cool |
| 03:08.00 | brockj49464 | when you setup xlite be sure to take out the dial prefix or else use it...Done that to myself too many times |
| 03:08.15 | bch | are there issues with using the AGI EXEC Playback in 1.0.9? |
| 03:19.04 | De_Mon | Qwell[] step 1, get it working. step 2, change it and make sure it still works. step 3 profit! |
| 03:23.17 | mrdigital | anyone know what SoapUsername and soapPassword is? |
| 03:24.09 | NewSole | ivory soap or jerkins soap |
| 03:24.48 | IRCFrEAK | guys I keep getting this when logging in from xlite: chan_sip.c:10817 handle_request_register: Registration from '200 <sip:200@10.0.0.1>' failed for '10.0.0.113' - Username/auth name mismatch |
| 03:25.16 | IRCFrEAK | [xlite1] |
| 03:25.16 | IRCFrEAK | ; Turn off silence suppression in X-Lite ("Transmit Silence"=YES)! |
| 03:25.16 | IRCFrEAK | ; Note that Xlite sends NAT keep-alive packets, so qualify=yes is not needed |
| 03:25.16 | IRCFrEAK | type=friend |
| 03:25.16 | IRCFrEAK | regexten=200 ; When they register, create extension 1234 |
| 03:25.18 | IRCFrEAK | callerid="Ed" <200> |
| 03:25.18 | IRCFrEAK | host=dynamic ; This device needs to register |
| 03:25.20 | IRCFrEAK | ;nat=yes ; X-Lite is behind a NAT router |
| 03:25.21 | *** join/#asterisk J4k3 (i=j4k3@dhcp-12-197-128-55.intrastar.net) |
| 03:25.22 | IRCFrEAK | ;canreinvite=no ; Typically set to NO if behind NAT |
| 03:25.24 | IRCFrEAK | ;disallow=all |
| 03:25.26 | IRCFrEAK | allow=gsm ; GSM consumes far less bandwidth than ulaw |
| 03:25.26 | *** join/#asterisk alexhopper (n=a27386@CPE000103d29ae2-CM001225dfdfe0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 03:25.28 | IRCFrEAK | allow=ulaw |
| 03:25.30 | IRCFrEAK | allow=alaw |
| 03:25.32 | IRCFrEAK | ;mailbox=1234@default,1233@default |
| 03:25.34 | IRCFrEAK | username=200 |
| 03:25.36 | IRCFrEAK | secret=whisper |
| 03:25.38 | IRCFrEAK | defaultip=10.0.0.113 |
| 03:25.50 | file | IRCFrEAK: change [xlite1] to [200] |
| 03:25.52 | NewSole | fromuser=xlite1 |
| 03:25.58 | file | and watch it work, and take away fromuser |
| 03:26.04 | file | and go "oooh wow! it works!" |
| 03:26.06 | SkramX | *flood*? |
| 03:26.20 | file | and you have been debited $100 for flooding the channel |
| 03:26.26 | file | Thank you for choosing #asterisk |
| 03:26.26 | SkramX | yey! |
| 03:26.30 | file | Drive through! |
| 03:26.39 | SkramX | hahaha |
| 03:26.41 | tzanger | thank you come again |
| 03:26.50 | NewSole | Please send your Visa number to kram |
| 03:26.55 | dogtanian | lol |
| 03:26.56 | file | tzanger: I sold your undies on eBay! |
| 03:27.05 | tzanger | I hope you got market value |
| 03:27.16 | tzanger | you sick bastard |
| 03:27.19 | NewSole | lol |
| 03:27.22 | tzanger | you won't get super asterisk knowhow through my undies |
| 03:27.27 | tzanger | you will get liver cancer from my undies |
| 03:27.32 | dogtanian | bum cancer |
| 03:27.34 | file | pfft |
| 03:27.43 | NewSole | no I needed new rubber for sling shot |
| 03:27.47 | file | _I'm_ the person to extract knowledge from if you're looking for Asterisk stuff |
| 03:27.48 | tzanger | it's powerful shit, if you pardon the expression |
| 03:27.50 | file | everyone knows that |
| 03:27.56 | dogtanian | lol |
| 03:27.57 | d-tech | you mean he'll lose his *ss |
| 03:28.10 | tzanger | heh |
| 03:28.29 | NewSole | lol |
| 03:28.32 | dogtanian | i was going to ask a question on here the other day... but in the end i just gave up and used an IAX trunk instead of a SIP trunk |
| 03:28.40 | dogtanian | although i still feel i've been beaten :/ |
| 03:28.57 | IRCFrEAK | Thanks file. That got it! |
| 03:29.08 | alexhopper | .me applauds file |
| 03:29.11 | file | IRCFrEAK: yeah, I'm psychic... imagine that |
| 03:29.22 | dogtanian | i was basicly betting half-duplex audio... i't's obvious a NAT problem but i cant solve it for love nor money |
| 03:29.30 | dogtanian | -betting +getting |
| 03:29.59 | dogtanian | did DMZ and port-fwding and the works... but i was still defeated |
| 03:30.22 | file | nat=yes should work wonders, if Asterisk is behind NAT - then externip/externhost= and localnet |
| 03:30.23 | IRCFrEAK | Did some one mention something about switching off extensons on xlite? |
| 03:30.37 | dogtanian | yeup - tried all of those |
| 03:30.42 | dogtanian | messed about with canreinvite too |
| 03:30.48 | file | then you do a sip debug and rtp debug to see where asterisk is sending audio |
| 03:32.12 | dogtanian | i did sip dfebug and made sure all teh ports in teh dump were forwarded... but the prblem was that the audio being sent from the VOIP Provider wasn't getting past the nat... and i couldn't se why... in teh end i just forwarded ALL the ports... and still no luck |
| 03:32.13 | NewSole | asterisk is sending audio to cyber hell |
| 03:33.11 | dogtanian | do most people use IAX in preference to SIP for trunks? |
| 03:33.26 | dogtanian | is there any disadvantage of using IAX instead of plain SIP? |
| 03:33.59 | justinu | off to the new years festivities |
| 03:34.08 | justinu | happy new year fellow telecom geeks |
| 03:34.18 | *** part/#asterisk justinu (n=justinu@207.181.0.86) |
| 03:35.40 | dogtanian | the problem is, sip debug probably won't show me where i'm going wrong... becasue surely asterisk won't know which port to expect the incoming rtp audio on? |
| 03:35.48 | dogtanian | ...or is it prenegoiatated? |
| 03:35.59 | brockj49464 | Well I will be saying that in about 90 minutes. Anyone have a cool app like at the tone the time is that instead at the tone it is exactly x from the new year? |
| 03:36.19 | dogtanian | i've opened all teh ports that have been refrenced in documentation etc... and edited the rtp range... and made shure those ports are open |
| 03:36.20 | *** join/#asterisk doughecka (n=Miranda@unaffiliated/doughecka) |
| 03:37.38 | dogtanian | oh well... i suppose being pwnd by sip.conf isn't the worst thing that could happen |
| 03:45.28 | benjk | dogtanian: the only drawback of IAX is that there are less devices supporting it, but that doesn't matter much if you use it for hooking up two Asterisk boxes. Also, IAX has recently been submitted to IETF to become an official internet standard, so support by third parties is likely to increase as a result. |
| 03:45.47 | *** join/#asterisk surfdue (i=tyler@unaffiliated/surfdue) |
| 03:45.49 | surfdue | HELLO |
| 03:45.56 | surfdue | and merry jello new years! |
| 03:46.47 | brockj49464 | Happy new year in -74+ minutes |
| 03:47.09 | dogtanian | benjk: heh - yeah IAX is only from my trunk at the moment. hopefuly if my cisco phones aren't lost in teh post, i'll be using sip for everything else |
| 03:47.57 | *** join/#asterisk _DAW-LAPTOP (n=DAW-LAPT@adsl-156-94-42.msy.bellsouth.net) |
| 03:48.47 | harryvv | im sitting at home...new years will come and go. |
| 03:49.06 | *** join/#asterisk tye (n=C0d3@ip70-173-248-45.fv.dl.cox.net) |
| 03:50.13 | harryvv | I can say there is a good thing that has come out of it.....got my diesel and its a land cruiser. Very sought after vehicle up here. Its not the jeep style but the wagon. A fully resored 1984 bj-42 land cruiser can fetch up to $20,000 US |
| 03:50.29 | harryvv | so my year has been a okay one :) |
| 03:50.49 | harryvv | man its dead here |
| 03:51.19 | coppice | let me guess - a full restore costs around $19,999 :-) |
| 03:51.25 | *** join/#asterisk bmg505 (n=leon@dsl-146-47-48.telkomadsl.co.za) |
| 03:53.07 | *** join/#asterisk gopherspidey (n=spidey@12-216-165-134.client.mchsi.com) |
| 03:53.28 | harryvv | no |
| 03:53.40 | harryvv | you can get them between 5-8k |
| 03:55.00 | harryvv | Its not often you can consider a vehicle a investment. Thay do hold there value. People look at my odomoter at 378km's and say "ohh you engine is now just broken in" These engines are tough and can if properly cared for go all the way to the million km mark. |
| 03:56.02 | dogtanian | heh |
| 03:56.05 | dogtanian | vehicels suck |
| 03:56.28 | dogtanian | it's like burning money |
| 03:56.35 | gopherspidey | Can any one help with zaptel module problems? I just upgraded to the latest 1.2 |
| 03:57.03 | gopherspidey | I am getting this in dmesg Freshmaker version: 71 |
| 03:57.03 | gopherspidey | Freshmaker passed register test |
| 03:57.03 | gopherspidey | Module 0: Not installed |
| 03:57.04 | gopherspidey | Module 1: Not installed |
| 03:57.04 | gopherspidey | Module 2: Not installed |
| 03:57.04 | gopherspidey | Module 3: Not installed |
| 03:57.06 | gopherspidey | wctdm: probe of 0000:00:0a.0 failed with error -5 |
| 03:57.23 | gopherspidey | Even though I have 4 modules |
| 03:57.29 | gopherspidey | What am I missing |
| 03:57.35 | *** join/#asterisk brettnem (n=brettnem@72.29.102.158) |
| 03:57.51 | benjk | did you hook up the extra power cord to the card? |
| 03:57.58 | gopherspidey | Yes |
| 03:59.04 | harryvv | dogtanian, yes in ways. my 3500 bls land cruiser gets 30 mpg |
| 03:59.13 | benjk | power down, remove the card, remove and reinsert the modules and check that they have proper contact, stick the card back in and reboot |
| 03:59.47 | gopherspidey | Be back in a while. |
| 03:59.50 | harryvv | whats the problem? |
| 03:59.54 | gopherspidey | By the way thanks |
| 03:59.58 | harryvv | his system is not working right? |
| 04:05.54 | gopherspidey | system comming back up after reboot |
| 04:06.43 | gopherspidey | harryvv my tdm card is not reconizing the modules |
| 04:08.30 | gopherspidey | benjk, Same problem |
| 04:11.00 | *** join/#asterisk stkn_ (i=nobody@gentoo/developer/pdpc.active.stkn) |
| 04:17.48 | benjk | in your zaptel directory, there should be two utilities ... wct4xxp-diag.c and ztdiag.c, try those |
| 04:21.31 | infinity1 | is voxee dead? |
| 04:22.03 | tzanger | nappy yew hear, everyone |
| 04:22.25 | brockj49464 | Countdown is at 38 minutes for me. |
| 04:22.34 | tzanger | yeah I still have some time |
| 04:23.01 | infinity1 | er ...www.voxee.com has been down. hm |
| 04:23.11 | surfdue | whatsteh suggested asterisk gui? |
| 04:23.14 | surfdue | web gui? |
| 04:23.19 | infinity1 | surfdue: vi |
| 04:23.20 | infinity1 | :) |
| 04:24.31 | surfdue | good choice |
| 04:24.36 | surfdue | im looking forsomething eh php based |
| 04:24.46 | infinity1 | surfdue: ya. i'm just being a smart ass |
| 04:24.52 | harryvv | tzanger where are you again? |
| 04:24.53 | surfdue | or evena _web_ gui |
| 04:24.53 | surfdue | :P |
| 04:24.54 | brockj49464 | I don't know how I got thru college without VI |
| 04:25.03 | surfdue | BROCK. |
| 04:25.11 | tzanger | harryvv: midwestern ontario |
| 04:25.11 | surfdue | VI SUCKS. |
| 04:25.15 | surfdue | pico or nano |
| 04:25.15 | surfdue | ;) |
| 04:25.16 | harryvv | okay |
| 04:25.21 | harryvv | i use vi |
| 04:25.30 | surfdue | it is to complicated |
| 04:25.32 | infinity1 | surfdue: careful, someone might bk you hahha :) |
| 04:25.43 | surfdue | pico and nano is more microsoft (c) oriented |
| 04:25.44 | surfdue | :p |
| 04:25.49 | harryvv | you only have to know a few commands in vi to use it |
| 04:25.58 | tzanger | heh I need to configure my mail client to say "Mail, motherfucker!" when I get mail |
| 04:25.59 | surfdue | ehh never liked it |
| 04:26.00 | surfdue | .exit :P |
| 04:26.02 | coppice | brockj49464: I used a simple strategy - vi wasn't written until after I left college :-) |
| 04:26.12 | harryvv | I need to learn more though |
| 04:26.25 | surfdue | anyways i see amp |
| 04:26.29 | harryvv | I really need to know grep more |
| 04:26.31 | surfdue | which i dont really like |
| 04:26.38 | brockj49464 | vi does have a learning curve to it and I don't know most of it. |
| 04:27.01 | surfdue | umi know of voiceone which looks good |
| 04:27.15 | surfdue | http://www.voiceone.it/index.php << click the british flag in the top right corner |
| 04:27.16 | surfdue | :P |
| 04:27.28 | coppice | do regular expressions have a high fibre diet :-\ |
| 04:27.31 | tzanger | "Do you want to see my itinerary?" "Do you want to see my balls?" HAHAHAHAHA |
| 04:27.49 | surfdue | lol |
| 04:27.57 | surfdue | fiber!!!! |
| 04:28.50 | mrdigital | ok |
| 04:28.58 | harryvv | surfdude, you made that site? |
| 04:29.11 | surfdue | no. |
| 04:29.12 | surfdue | lol |
| 04:29.20 | surfdue | im looking to be a devloper |
| 04:29.31 | surfdue | since im a php and debian devloper |
| 04:29.36 | surfdue | they need a deb package ;P |
| 04:32.46 | zwi | does anybody know if it's possible to get GXP2000's LEDs to light for a parked call? I've been looking into the hint stuff for this but it looks like hint's need a device. |
| 04:33.29 | MooingLemur | that could be interesting |
| 04:33.48 | surfdue | anyone knowhow i can get the linksys phone adapter pap2 (aka vonagestart up kit) to work with my asterisk server? |
| 04:33.48 | surfdue | :) |
| 04:35.07 | *** join/#asterisk madgoat (n=jircii@c220-239-18-20.belrs4.nsw.optusnet.com.au) |
| 04:37.23 | MooingLemur | baa. |
| 04:38.18 | JunK-Y | surfdue: unlock it. |
| 04:38.37 | surfdue | how? |
| 04:38.45 | JunK-Y | google! |
| 04:38.48 | surfdue | please if you can tell me pmme maybe |
| 04:38.59 | surfdue | i have found one havnt tryed yet |
| 04:39.21 | surfdue | is there a way i can hook my lappy and adapter up via ethernet cable |
| 04:39.30 | surfdue | noton arouter or network |
| 04:39.38 | surfdue | and stilledit the web interface? |
| 04:39.51 | surfdue | not on a router ** |
| 04:39.59 | surfdue | sorry my keyboard is screwing up. |
| 04:40.58 | surfdue | like forsome reason I went into the automated phone menu for my adapter, and set a static ip etc, I couldnt reach from my computer becuase it said that there was no network cable connected |
| 04:41.12 | surfdue | is there a way I can override this? |
| 04:42.15 | harryvv | ya, hook up the network cable |
| 04:42.19 | surfdue | i did |
| 04:42.26 | harryvv | LOL |
| 04:42.35 | surfdue | for some reason its saying tehre isnt one connected becuase it dosnt see the adapter as a router which it isnt |
| 04:42.45 | surfdue | but i want to force it so i can configure this thing |
| 04:42.51 | surfdue | they arent on the network |
| 04:43.21 | *** join/#asterisk alexhopper (n=a27386@CPE000103d29ae2-CM001225dfdfe0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 04:43.42 | smirl | 17 minutes until 2006 for me and the rest of eastern america |
| 04:43.50 | JunK-Y | yay! |
| 04:44.04 | surfdue | hey alexhopper would you know how i can hook up this linksys voip adapter and my lappy via ethernet, my comp is saying there is nothing connected |
| 04:44.19 | smirl | just compiled our end of year web stats for our website smirl.com . 40900671 hits in 2005 |
| 04:44.21 | mrdigital | surfdue: your the guy who said to click the english flag? |
| 04:44.22 | infinity1 | anyone having problems with voxee? |
| 04:44.54 | surfdue | ya :P mrdigital the british flag |
| 04:45.10 | mrdigital | im still having a problem |
| 04:45.18 | alexhopper | You need to use a crossover cable |
| 04:45.20 | mrdigital | Soapusername soapPassword? |
| 04:45.33 | surfdue | alexhopper, what is this? |
| 04:45.44 | surfdue | isnt that a normal ethernetcable? |
| 04:46.02 | mrdigital | surfdue: no the wires are crossed |
| 04:46.07 | surfdue | cat5 |
| 04:46.14 | surfdue | ok? |
| 04:46.17 | surfdue | pleaseexplain |
| 04:46.18 | mrdigital | surfdue: theres 2 wirings |
| 04:46.21 | surfdue | where can i get one? |
| 04:46.26 | alexhopper | Tehre are different types of cat 5 cable, each has it's own use. |
| 04:46.27 | mrdigital | Straight through and cross |
| 04:46.39 | alexhopper | Cross is what you needs |
| 04:46.42 | alexhopper | *need |
| 04:46.44 | alexhopper | Sorry |
| 04:46.52 | alexhopper | Too much new years cheer *hiccup* |
| 04:46.57 | mrdigital | http://www.cablestogo.com/product.asp?cat%5Fid=705&sku=24490 |
| 04:47.04 | *** join/#asterisk Qwell[] (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/qwell) |
| 04:47.26 | surfdue | space shuttle-c multilan straitened verified patch cable |
| 04:47.29 | surfdue | thats whati have :P |
| 04:47.46 | surfdue | whould radioshack have one? |
| 04:48.27 | alexhopper | Probably |
| 04:48.39 | alexhopper | They sel all KINDS of electric goodies |
| 04:48.49 | surfdue | i have a patch cable.. |
| 04:48.53 | mrdigital | surfdue: yes Radioshack will have one |
| 04:48.54 | surfdue | itis a patchcable |
| 04:48.59 | surfdue | they arnt open.. |
| 04:48.59 | surfdue | damit |
| 04:49.01 | surfdue | lol |
| 04:49.08 | surfdue | why wontthis one work |
| 04:49.15 | mrdigital | surfdue: i make my own cables |
| 04:49.17 | alexhopper | IT'S NEW YEARS EVE! |
| 04:49.22 | mrdigital | i always have a 500ft spindel |
| 04:49.26 | mrdigital | alexhopper: where are you |
| 04:49.30 | mrdigital | its 11:50pm |
| 04:49.33 | file | because a crossover cable is for going between two devices, such as computers |
| 04:49.36 | coppice | ITS NEW YEARS DAY! |
| 04:49.36 | surfdue | :) |
| 04:49.41 | file | straight through is to a router/hub/switch/whateva |
| 04:49.44 | alexhopper | i'm in the next time zone over, 12:47 here ;) |
| 04:49.55 | mrdigital | so its been january stfor you |
| 04:49.56 | surfdue | i have a patch cable |
| 04:49.59 | mrdigital | for 47 mins |
| 04:49.59 | surfdue | it says patch cable on it? |
| 04:50.01 | alexhopper | yup ;) |
| 04:50.03 | coppice | 12:47PM here |
| 04:50.07 | file | surfdue: wow, I never would have guessed |
| 04:50.11 | file | you've said it 4 times now :P |
| 04:50.15 | surfdue | why wont it work still :P |
| 04:50.22 | file | if it doesn't work, it's not going to work, so it's not a crossover cable |
| 04:50.23 | mrdigital | surfdue: theres two different patch cable |
| 04:50.26 | Exiles | lol |
| 04:50.26 | mrdigital | Straight and Crossover |
| 04:50.27 | alexhopper | You in the atlantic cppice |
| 04:50.31 | surfdue | ERR.. |
| 04:50.33 | file | so too bad |
| 04:50.33 | alexhopper | *coppice |
| 04:50.41 | surfdue | im in atlanticcity. |
| 04:50.43 | Exiles | cut your straight cable |
| 04:50.50 | surfdue | and do what? |
| 04:50.51 | file | yes, rewire the straight through cable |
| 04:50.54 | Exiles | and rewire it to act as a crossover |
| 04:51.11 | file | NIP/TUCK! |
| 04:51.15 | file | ...the cable |
| 04:51.16 | mrdigital | Exiles: how if he doesnt have a crimper or heads? |
| 04:51.20 | Exiles | thats what I did last time I was in a bind for a crossover |
| 04:51.29 | surfdue | how? |
| 04:51.30 | surfdue | lol! |
| 04:51.32 | file | mrdigital: then he makes a bad problem even worse :) |
| 04:51.33 | surfdue | idont havemy tools |
| 04:51.33 | coppice | alexhopper: with that sense of geography you *have* to be american |
| 04:51.37 | surfdue | how can i do this? |
| 04:51.43 | surfdue | ihave scissorstape |
| 04:51.44 | Exiles | cut the wire leaving a foot cunt with the conector |
| 04:51.49 | surfdue | scissors, tape, umm |
| 04:51.50 | surfdue | lol |
| 04:51.51 | mrdigital | surfdue: do you have rj45 heads |
| 04:51.57 | surfdue | yes |
| 04:51.58 | surfdue | 2 |
| 04:52.02 | mrdigital | Really? |
| 04:52.05 | mrdigital | ok do this |
| 04:52.06 | mrdigital | cut the heads |
| 04:52.10 | mrdigital | off |
| 04:52.12 | Exiles | cut the wire leaving a foot if wire with the conector |
| 04:52.12 | surfdue | and 3 foot sterait wire |
| 04:52.23 | file | coppice: alexhopper is _not_ American |
| 04:52.26 | alexhopper | I'm Canadian, my sense of Geography is much better than that of any american |
| 04:52.32 | mrdigital | get the diagram for crosssover |
| 04:52.34 | Exiles | stript solder tape and play |
| 04:52.36 | surfdue | how can i be sure they are rj45 |
| 04:52.37 | mrdigital | and when you get the wires eright |
| 04:52.45 | mrdigital | they big or small? |
| 04:52.51 | coppice | alexhopper: and you still think its 12:47PM in the atlantic? |
| 04:52.52 | surfdue | big |
| 04:52.55 | surfdue | biggerthenphone |
| 04:53.03 | surfdue | can wetalk in pm mrdigital ? |
| 04:53.04 | madgoat | Just wondering if there are any good config programs for a nube. Are they the way to go or are they more trouble than they're worth? |
| 04:53.07 | alexhopper | It's 12:47 am, here in the atlantic time zone |
| 04:53.17 | file | he misread PM for AM |
| 04:53.18 | file | :P |
| 04:53.45 | alexhopper | woops, my bad |
| 04:54.37 | Qwell[] | file: Do they have flying cars in 2006? |
| 04:54.47 | file | Qwell[]: yup, with rockets! |
| 04:54.48 | Qwell[] | you've been there for almost an hour now |
| 04:54.51 | Qwell[] | awesome |
| 04:54.56 | file | and we have transporters |
| 04:55.04 | Qwell[] | matter transporters? |
| 04:55.10 | file | Qwell[]: exactly |
| 04:55.17 | file | and even... kindamatter transporters |
| 04:55.19 | Qwell[] | finally |
| 04:55.26 | alexhopper | they dont have antimatter transporters |
| 04:55.27 | surfdue | does wawa have crossover cables? |
| 04:55.28 | Qwell[] | any doesn'tmatter transporters? |
| 04:55.28 | surfdue | lool |
| 04:55.32 | alexhopper | thats on tuesday |
| 04:55.33 | surfdue | mcdonalds? |
| 04:55.39 | Qwell[] | surfdue: get some scissors, and make one |
| 04:55.40 | surfdue | they are the only peoplei know 24/7 |
| 04:55.44 | surfdue | does walmart have it? |
| 04:55.47 | coppice | flying cars? you mean those american junk heaps that can't grip the road properly? |
| 04:55.48 | Qwell[] | I made a crossover phone cord like that :p |
| 04:55.49 | surfdue | err k |
| 04:55.55 | surfdue | i need noobinstructions |
| 04:55.59 | Qwell[] | scissors and teeth... you can make any type of cable |
| 04:56.12 | alexhopper | Yep |
| 04:56.26 | alexhopper | I've done that in the theatre with a light wire carrying 4000 volts |
| 04:56.38 | madgoat | Oh & smirl thanks alot for your help from IRCFrEAK. |
| 04:56.40 | Qwell[] | I bet you turned off the power first. sissy |
| 04:56.45 | alexhopper | Nope |
| 04:56.51 | alexhopper | couldent, show was in progress |
| 04:56.53 | alexhopper | :p |
| 04:57.08 | coppice | its better if you don't turn off the power - built in arc welding |
| 04:57.14 | alexhopper | lol |
| 04:58.35 | alexhopper | And I'm still here ;) I also remove components of my puter while it's running, cause THATS safe |
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| 05:01.57 | brockj49464 | happy new year in est |
| 05:02.02 | alexhopper | I wonce hooked speakers up using phone cable |
| 05:02.04 | surfdue | HAPPY NY1 |
| 05:02.07 | surfdue | THE BALL DROPPED |
| 05:02.10 | surfdue | mine havnt yet :( |
| 05:02.12 | surfdue | :P |
| 05:02.21 | alexhopper | That explains it |
| 05:02.26 | surfdue | rofl.. jk |
| 05:02.27 | alexhopper | Just kidding :p |
| 05:02.37 | alexhopper | How old are you? |
| 05:02.43 | surfdue | ok nowcrossover cablwe |
| 05:02.45 | surfdue | lol |
| 05:03.11 | alexhopper | How old are you? |
| 05:03.12 | surfdue | what do i need to do this? |
| 05:03.16 | surfdue | 16 |
| 05:03.31 | alexhopper | file: you were closer |
| 05:03.32 | Qwell[] | surfdue: crimpers |
| 05:03.51 | alexhopper | google is your friend |
| 05:03.58 | alexhopper | you can find instructions there |
| 05:04.42 | surfdue | i dont have any crimpers |
| 05:04.47 | surfdue | whatcan iuse inplace ofit |
| 05:04.56 | asterboy | google is your friend...hmmmm google=AOL |
| 05:05.02 | Qwell[] | small screwdriver |
| 05:05.15 | Qwell[] | You have to really know what you're doing though |
| 05:05.21 | junbug | omg, im sill home |
| 05:05.22 | mrdigital | surfdue: use a flat head |
| 05:06.42 | surfdue | ok |
| 05:06.44 | surfdue | how? |
| 05:06.56 | Qwell[] | you need the ends also... |
| 05:06.59 | mrdigital | yea |
| 05:07.05 | mogorman | man i need a newer computer |
| 05:07.21 | Qwell[] | mogorman: What do you have now? |
| 05:07.32 | mogorman | a 6 year old ukranian laptop |
| 05:07.41 | mogorman | 497mhz of glory |
| 05:07.44 | dogtanian | haha |
| 05:07.46 | dogtanian | have you heard about Putin's New Year gift to Ukrane in a few hours |
| 05:07.47 | Qwell[] | ukranian? |
| 05:07.48 | brockj49464 | Does it have a 2k6 bug? |
| 05:07.49 | dogtanian | he's cutting off the countries gas supply |
| 05:07.53 | dogtanian | and it's about minus infinity degrees there |
| 05:07.53 | mogorman | yeah |
| 05:08.03 | mogorman | its a ukranian knock off company |
| 05:08.09 | mogorman | it was my dads old one |
| 05:08.18 | mogorman | and his office bought some cheapo ones |
| 05:08.20 | Krill | new years eh |
| 05:08.37 | file | Matttttttttttt |
| 05:08.37 | Krill | all over this side of the globe |
| 05:08.44 | mogorman | filleeeeee |
| 05:08.48 | mogorman | my mac mini is much faster |
| 05:08.51 | file | yay |
| 05:08.52 | mogorman | but i tend to not use is |
| 05:08.56 | mogorman | er it |
| 05:08.57 | rob0 | usually warmer in Ukraine than in Russia, especially the Arctic parts :) |
| 05:09.00 | Qwell[] | why? |
| 05:09.08 | mogorman | well i dont have a good computer chair |
| 05:09.13 | surfdue | wait |
| 05:09.16 | mogorman | so its not very comfortable to sit and work at |
| 05:09.20 | surfdue | i have to cut one of the rj45 heads off |
| 05:09.23 | surfdue | take it apart |
| 05:09.25 | Qwell[] | $ computer chair < $ new computer |
| 05:09.29 | surfdue | and move the wires around and reinstall it |
| 05:09.31 | surfdue | baically |
| 05:09.31 | surfdue | :) |
| 05:09.32 | Qwell[] | surfdue: no |
| 05:09.37 | mogorman | actually i got a new laptop for 11 bucks |
| 05:09.38 | surfdue | no? |
| 05:09.41 | Qwell[] | Once it's crimped, it's unusable |
| 05:09.43 | Qwell[] | mogorman: eh? |
| 05:09.47 | mrdigital | what Qwell said |
| 05:09.49 | surfdue | huh? |
| 05:09.55 | mogorman | yeah i got a used one from my sister |
| 05:09.56 | Qwell[] | surfdue: You can't reuse them |
| 05:09.58 | mrdigital | surfdue: you cant reuse the head |
| 05:09.59 | file | surfdue: the moral of the story is... give up tonight |
| 05:09.59 | mogorman | its only 3 years old |
| 05:10.05 | surfdue | fine1 |
| 05:10.09 | Qwell[] | Why $11? |
| 05:10.11 | surfdue | oh i need to get a set? |
| 05:10.13 | madgoat | asterisk seems to keep hold of the line even after the caller has hung up. It seems to still be playing the message back. Is this normal? |
| 05:10.16 | surfdue | plain ones |
| 05:10.19 | mrdigital | surfdue: goto radioshack monday |
| 05:10.21 | mogorman | i had to get her a new power adapter for it |
| 05:10.23 | file | madgoat: analog? |
| 05:10.23 | surfdue | DAMMIT. |
| 05:10.24 | surfdue | :P |
| 05:10.26 | Qwell[] | oh |
| 05:10.31 | mogorman | so she could get her files off of it |
| 05:10.32 | surfdue | im ganna jam the wires into my pc! |
| 05:10.33 | surfdue | lol |
| 05:10.34 | madgoat | Yes analog |
| 05:10.50 | tzanger | ADMINISTER THE TESTICLE CLAMPS!! |
| 05:10.51 | file | madgoat: no disconnect supervision then, so asterisk doesn't know it was hung up |
| 05:10.55 | alexhopper | surfdue: Your not me, that wont work |
| 05:11.15 | surfdue | lol |
| 05:11.21 | madgoat | disconect supervision? How do I configure that? |
| 05:11.22 | surfdue | can i use like an icecube |
| 05:11.26 | surfdue | what can iuse |
| 05:11.33 | Qwell[] | surfdue: crimpers |
| 05:11.40 | surfdue | to make a temp FAKE rj45 head |
| 05:11.41 | surfdue | :P |
| 05:11.44 | file | madgoat: it's something you get from your telephone company, it's a signal that the call was hung up... your line doesn't have that probably |
| 05:12.56 | file | you can try using busydetect |
| 05:12.57 | surfdue | can i cahnge a phonewire |
| 05:13.05 | surfdue | can i open the already crimped thing :P |
| 05:13.07 | mrdigital | surfdue: no same type of heads |
| 05:13.27 | surfdue | can i open the head already closed |
| 05:13.29 | mrdigital | surfdue: just wait until monday |
| 05:13.38 | surfdue | err |
| 05:13.40 | mrdigital | if you keep asking the same thing over and over it will piss us off |
| 05:13.42 | madgoat | busy detect... I'll give it a try. Which config file? |
| 05:13.43 | surfdue | common im desprite |
| 05:13.45 | surfdue | ihave wood here |
| 05:13.45 | surfdue | :P |
| 05:13.54 | file | madgoat: read this http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk+Disconnect+Supervision |
| 05:14.02 | surfdue | radioshack is 24/7 |
| 05:14.02 | surfdue | wow |
| 05:14.03 | surfdue | bbl |
| 05:14.13 | alexhopper | not tonite |
| 05:14.17 | Qwell[] | It's closed on 1/1 |
| 05:14.26 | alexhopper | TRUST me, I will be FLABBERGASTED |
| 05:14.29 | alexhopper | It's NEW YEARS |
| 05:14.30 | mrdigital | radioshacks here close |
| 05:14.35 | alexhopper | It's a stat holliday |
| 05:14.37 | file | madgoat: zapata.conf is where you edit it, busydetect=yes and busycount=3 probably... |
| 05:14.38 | mrdigital | at 5pm |
| 05:14.47 | mrdigital | all the time |
| 05:15.22 | surfdue | http://www.kan.org/networking/crossover.html |
| 05:15.37 | mogorman | 45 minutes left in this year |
| 05:15.42 | mogorman | at least for central peoples |
| 05:15.51 | brockj49464 | does line polarity effect supervision? |
| 05:16.25 | alexhopper | surfdue: Why are you so anxious to get a crossover cable? |
| 05:16.34 | surfdue | heh |
| 05:16.37 | surfdue | im flying to florida |
| 05:16.40 | surfdue | tomaro. |
| 05:16.43 | surfdue | tommarro |
| 05:16.48 | alexhopper | tommorow |
| 05:16.50 | Qwell[] | not even close |
| 05:16.51 | surfdue | yes. |
| 05:16.52 | surfdue | lol |
| 05:16.57 | mrdigital | alexhopper: he needs a crosssover so he can surf porn at the hotel maybe |
| 05:16.59 | Qwell[] | still wrong |
| 05:17.00 | Qwell[] | tomorrow |
| 05:17.11 | madgoat | file: Cheers. Thanks |
| 05:17.20 | file | brockj49464: all I know is to signal a disconnect they do a momentary voltage drop |
| 05:17.21 | alexhopper | in canada, it's tommorow :p |
| 05:17.37 | alexhopper | well |
| 05:17.42 | alexhopper | in my head anyway |
| 05:17.48 | alexhopper | ^-^ |
| 05:18.23 | alexhopper | surfdue: What do you need to hook up to your laptop? |
| 05:18.40 | surfdue | my linksys voip adapter |
| 05:19.13 | alexhopper | ah |
| 05:19.14 | surfdue | i want to "upgrade" the firmware to "unlock" it tobring with me |
| 05:19.28 | surfdue | all i want is to get to the gui? |
| 05:19.29 | surfdue | lol |
| 05:19.32 | surfdue | web gui |
| 05:19.42 | file | give... up... now... |
| 05:19.52 | xachen | hmm |
| 05:19.53 | surfdue | f _ i _ l _e |
| 05:19.54 | surfdue | :P |
| 05:19.56 | xachen | << installing dspam |
| 05:20.28 | alexhopper | Dont be cheap, buy a real voip phone... |
| 05:20.36 | alexhopper | trust me...I did...it's worth it |
| 05:20.57 | alexhopper | The speaker phones are amazing, right file? |
| 05:21.01 | file | absolutely |
| 05:21.07 | mrdigital | the dlink phone good? |
| 05:21.45 | Qwell[] | Nobody invited Qwell. :( |
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| 05:27.41 | PakiPenguin | morning |
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| 05:50.52 | Qwell[] | slow night... |
| 05:51.09 | PakiPenguin | yup yup |
| 05:56.22 | [alexhopper] | surfdue: did you get to Radio Shack ? |
| 05:57.26 | surfdue | no |
| 05:57.31 | surfdue | tolate i dontwanna go |
| 05:57.32 | surfdue | :P |
| 05:57.39 | surfdue | thanks foryour help though |
| 05:58.25 | [alexhopper] | lol |
| 05:58.34 | [alexhopper] | no problem |
| 06:02.54 | [alexhopper] | CAn't decide on a name? |
| 06:04.35 | harryvv | ooops! i wonder if this was asterisk involved in this story. most likly not :) http://edition.cnn.com/2005/LAW/12/31/inmate.scare.ap/index.html |
| 06:04.52 | harryvv | I read this story and think if timmed call files. |
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| 06:38.34 | gopherspidey | What voip hardphone do people recomend? |
| 06:38.52 | Qwell[] | cisco, polycom.. |
| 06:39.38 | gopherspidey | I heard that polycom are difficult to configure. |
| 06:40.29 | gopherspidey | are Polycomm's SIP based? |
| 06:40.48 | Qwell[] | yeah. there are some that aren't though |
| 06:44.50 | Assid | heya Qwell[] |
| 06:44.57 | Qwell[] | Assid: hi |
| 06:45.01 | Assid | hows you |
| 06:45.05 | Assid | what the hell you doing at home? |
| 06:45.05 | Qwell[] | mes good |
| 06:45.10 | Qwell[] | I'm not at home |
| 06:45.26 | Assid | ? times square ? |
| 06:45.30 | Assid | movie theatre? |
| 06:45.41 | Assid | bottom line.. WHY ARENT YOU PARTYING YOUR BUMM OFF |
| 06:45.48 | Qwell[] | who says I'm not? |
| 06:46.05 | Assid | your here.. |
| 06:46.10 | Qwell[] | So are you |
| 06:46.20 | Assid | its noon here |
| 06:46.25 | Assid | oh wait |
| 06:46.26 | Qwell[] | It's 10 here |
| 06:46.33 | Assid | where are you? |
| 06:46.37 | thazza | Its 5:46pm here. |
| 06:46.38 | Qwell[] | ;] |
| 06:47.10 | Assid | where the hell are you?? |
| 06:47.18 | thazza | oz |
| 06:47.20 | Qwell[] | downtown Long Beach, CA |
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| 06:49.42 | Assid | Canada! |
| 06:49.51 | Qwell[] | Wrong CA |
| 06:49.55 | NewSole | lol |
| 06:49.56 | Assid | california? |
| 06:50.00 | Qwell[] | yeah |
| 06:50.02 | Assid | cool |
| 06:50.54 | Qwell[] | CA and LA are far too confusing of abbreviations |
| 06:55.46 | Assid | yeah |
| 06:56.00 | Assid | actually shoulda known from Long beach |
| 06:56.15 | surfdue | night |
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| 07:12.49 | cricalixwood | Happy New Year to All |
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| 07:16.32 | cricalixwood | Happy New Year nswint |
| 07:16.40 | nswint | Happy New Year |
| 07:17.32 | cricalixwood | Sitting here drinking my first coffee for the new year - starting off right! |
| 07:18.08 | nswint | has anyone tried any wifi dongles or power over ethernet adaptors on any ip phones? |
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| 08:20.07 | asterboy | happy new year! |
| 08:20.20 | asterboy | google's new year logo sucks btw |
| 08:20.29 | asterboy | :P |
| 08:21.21 | swm_ | Happy New Year |
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| 08:26.56 | Qwell[] | So, here's the first thing I've learned this year... |
| 08:27.06 | Qwell[] | public fireworks "displays" + fog = extremely pointless |
| 08:27.20 | Qwell[] | All you get is noise, heh |
| 08:29.57 | drumkilla | driving in the fog sucks too |
| 08:30.00 | drumkilla | i just did that, heh |
| 08:30.04 | Qwell[] | heh |
| 08:30.11 | Qwell[] | my wife is doing so currently |
| 08:31.03 | drumkilla | no fun |
| 08:31.18 | Qwell[] | sweet |
| 08:31.24 | Qwell[] | I'll not update my previous statement |
| 08:31.41 | Qwell[] | All you get is noise, and car alarms, heh |
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| 08:40.53 | newl | and barking dogs |
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| 08:48.23 | Fubster | happy new year mofoz |
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| 09:05.29 | IOscanner | happy new years |
| 09:05.36 | Freman | hey guys - happy enw year |
| 09:06.17 | Freman | I've got an issue with my provider/asterisk... every now and then for whatever reason my provider goes "unreachable" - and I think asterisk eventualy gives up trying to reach them... this is an IAX channel. |
| 09:06.47 | Freman | If I log into asterisk and type reload it all works fine again, but unless I do, I can't make calls over that channel |
| 09:06.59 | Freman | Anyway I can get asterisk to check and correct this behaviour it's self? |
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| 09:15.37 | Freman | I suppose I could script the call to perform a reload if it fails the first time... is there a way to just reset a channel without reloading the whole config? |
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| 11:46.00 | lenne_dk | Off-topic: If an US microwave oven is rated 1250W, is it what it consume or what it heat? |
| 11:46.20 | lenne_dk | In EU, most oven heat 700-800W |
| 11:48.01 | [wiebel] | normaly the indication is what it consumes |
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| 11:55.12 | lenne_dk | So a 1250W oven may heat 1000W. |
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| 12:07.58 | gnosys | hi all. anybody awake here? |
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| 12:12.49 | coppice | depends where here is. there's someone awake here |
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| 12:23.32 | gnosys | here being defined as #asterisk |
| 12:23.59 | gnosys | anybody here use an IAX2 provider for DID that you can comment on regarding quality, satisfaction, etc. |
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| 12:30.40 | gnosys | ATA is an acronym which stands for many things. In the context of using Asterisk, what is/are the most common interpretation(s)? Analog Telephone Adapter? Analog Terminal Adapter? Other? |
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| 12:31.32 | coppice | Analog Terminal Adapter - a device which dies? :-) |
| 12:31.52 | gnosys | :-) |
| 12:32.51 | gnosys | Anybody know who Digium gets their IAX2 service from? |
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| 12:34.06 | coppice | that would be year 2600 |
| 12:35.02 | drray | ea sports does not agree with you as they have NFL2k5 |
| 12:35.32 | coppice | is a 4k7 ohm resistor a 4007 ohm resistor. sports people are too dumb to count |
| 12:36.16 | drray | sorry I'm to busy to argue just to argue with you |
| 12:36.24 | drray | er, too |
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| 13:07.50 | gnosys_ | Is development with gnophone still active? At gnophone.com, I see no News activity since April 2002. Is that also representative of development on the software? |
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| 13:34.07 | gnosys | hiho |
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| 13:36.33 | coppice | this project is not more. it ceased to be. it's shrugge off its mortal coil and gone to meet its maker. if they hadn't nailed it to the web site, it would be pushing up the daisies. |
| 13:37.34 | gnosys | coppice: you mean gnophone? |
| 13:38.55 | coppice | could be |
| 13:39.11 | tuxinator_linuxM | Mark said there would be no more development with gnophone, someone is free to pick it up and work on it. |
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| 13:40.48 | gnosys | what about iaxtel. is that still an active service? there are indications on the website that hint that it may not be, but I'm not sure if that's short-term associated with the New Year holiday or if it's been that way for a long time. |
| 13:45.11 | robl^ | gnophone only works with IAX nor IAX2, if I remember correctly |
| 13:45.46 | gnosys | ok |
| 13:46.25 | robl^ | er... NOT IAX2 |
| 13:46.46 | gnosys | Does anyone know if iaxtel.com is still an active service? Copyright dates on the website of 1999-2003 and comments of "The IAXTel Server is currently under maintenance." make me wonder. |
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| 13:48.10 | robl^ | I know a new IAXtel server went online in late 2004.. but I don't know the current status |
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| 13:48.22 | gnosys | ok |
| 13:49.07 | gnosys | anyone here use voipjet.com ? |
| 13:53.30 | gnosys | what does it mean for a VoIP provider to "provide local number origination and termination? |
| 13:53.48 | eivindtr | Hi all. Does anyone know how to set up a sip protocol handler and a softphone on a windows-desktop? What softphones support this? |
| 13:54.05 | gnosys | X-Lite has a SIP client for Windows. |
| 13:54.14 | gnosys | www.xten.com I think. Use Google. |
| 13:54.54 | eivindtr | gnosys: Not just a client, a URL handler, so a webpage may include something like <a href="sip:me@somewhere">call me</a> |
| 13:55.22 | gnosys | Not sure, but I think that might work with x-lite. |
| 13:55.37 | robl^ | also.. the Snom 360 Soft phone works rather well.. esp if you use Snoom hardware phones as well.. |
| 13:55.57 | eivindtr | gnosys: I didn't make it, Firefox claims "protocol not registered"... |
| 13:56.24 | gnosys | prolly needs some extra configuration of the browser. |
| 13:56.29 | benjk | you'll have to register X-Lite as a helper application for the sip URL scheme in your web browser |
| 13:56.57 | robl^ | http://snom.com/snom360softphone.html |
| 13:57.15 | gnosys | snom 360 only runs on windows, right? |
| 13:57.32 | robl^ | at the moment. there is a Linux version in development |
| 13:57.59 | eivindtr | gnosys and benjk: yes, but it still requires that the softphone (allready running) will accept another launch with a URL parameter.. |
| 13:58.57 | robl^ | the nice thing about it, at least for me, its almost identical to Snom 360 hard ohines.. configuration is the same. same firmware.. no re-training for its use. My hardware phones are also Snoms now |
| 13:59.50 | gnosys | robl^: have you done any comparison of your Snom hardware phones with Polycom or Cisco products? Just curious. |
| 14:01.44 | robl^ | gnosys: I *had* Cisco. Got rid of them. Snom 360 supports 12 lines (vs 6 in a Cisco 7960). Snom has backlighting on the LCD, support for custom ringtones PER line. Snom allows for SIP Subscribe/Notify (line / phone status) |
| 14:02.16 | gnosys | So it sounds like you're much happier with the Snoms, huh? |
| 14:02.39 | robl^ | Its easier to get firmware for Snoms.. no need for a license fee and SmartNet Subscription. snom can eaily be configured with a web browser. |
| 14:02.51 | coppice | but the ciscos have the advantage of nasty looking silver paint that wears off easily |
| 14:03.19 | gnosys | How's the price comparison for Snom vs. Cisco 7960? |
| 14:03.37 | coppice | i think any appliance with EULA deserves to be rejected |
| 14:04.08 | newl | Those toasters really come with some unbelieveable ones I tell ya! |
| 14:04.30 | robl^ | hahah! Ciscos have 2 advantages over Snom. XML applications (in development for the Snom 5.x firmware) and a larger LCD display |
| 14:04.34 | coppice | don't laugh. A BMW now comes with one |
| 14:05.24 | fugitivo | robl^: now describe the disadvantages (ex: licenses) |
| 14:05.28 | coppice | manufacturers are trying to create a world where we no longer actually buy anything |
| 14:05.39 | drray | just services |
| 14:05.39 | robl^ | Snom 360s are about $100 or so less than a Cisco 7960.. but Snoms include the power brick ($35 extra for Cisco). |
| 14:06.36 | coppice | the cisco price is extremely variable. what is that $100 figure based on |
| 14:06.55 | robl^ | Also, Snom officially endorses and provides support for Asterisk. There are asterisk notes and configuration tips on their website. For cisco, SIP support is an afterthought. They want people to use SCCP and CallManager |
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| 14:07.54 | gnosys | robl^: Really! Are there any other IP telephones that support Asterisk? I didn't know there were any! |
| 14:07.55 | robl^ | Coppice.. Lets say that price is based on Atacomm's online store. They sell BOTH Cisco and Snom. Their price shows that Snom is being sold for $100 less |
| 14:08.53 | fugitivo | why are you comparing snom with cisco and not for example polycom with snom or cisco or grandstream or whatever? |
| 14:08.59 | coppice | i really hate the cisco handset. never tried the snom, though |
| 14:09.36 | robl^ | fugitivo: because gnosys asked about them.. and I have not used Polycom. I am comparing the 2 that I have personally used |
| 14:10.00 | fugitivo | ok |
| 14:10.06 | drray | I've not tried the snom or the poly, but I love my cisco 7960 |
| 14:10.27 | robl^ | Atacomm sells Cisco 7960 for $339 and Snom 360 for $199 |
| 14:10.58 | fugitivo | how much for polycom 601? |
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| 14:11.06 | robl^ | Cisco hasn't added ANY new fueatures to the SIP firmware in ages. nothing but bug fixes for some time now. |
| 14:11.46 | drray | I want a 7970 |
| 14:11.57 | gnosys | I think the mere fact that Snom supports asterisk is a very big plus for their phones. Are there any other phones that do this officially? |
| 14:12.14 | fugitivo | what do you mean with supporting asterisk? |
| 14:12.25 | fugitivo | it works with iax2? |
| 14:12.29 | robl^ | 7970 looks nice.. but only supports SCCP.. and SCCP is quite as well supported as SIP under Asterisk, at the moemnt |
| 14:12.40 | drray | I know that when I was demo'ing asterisk for my boss and his boss, they recognized cisco and that helped sell it to them |
| 14:13.02 | drray | I'm willing to do sccp on the 7970 to get xml scripting |
| 14:13.10 | coppice | robl^: I don't find that an entirely positive endorsement :-) |
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| 14:14.01 | robl^ | fugitivo: Snom provides tech support for users who wish to use Asterisk with their phones. They endorse it. They also try to ensure compatibility with their device and Asterisk. |
| 14:14.55 | drray | how does that make it more compatible than say cisco? or even grandstream? |
| 14:15.52 | fugitivo | robl^: that's nice |
| 14:16.03 | gnosys | fugitivo: robl^ mentioned that Snom officially supports the use of Asterisk with their phones. I was surprised by that because I was not aware that any phone mfgr did this. When I peeked at their website, I found this: http://www.snom.com/whitepapers/FAQ-03-08-29-pp.pdf |
| 14:16.24 | gnosys | That's the only company I know of that support's Asterisk with their phones. |
| 14:17.45 | robl^ | and... http://www.snom.com/wiki/index.php/Asterisk_1.2_Firmware_R4 |
| 14:17.56 | gnosys | does anyone else know of any other phone mfgr that officially supports the use of their products with Asterisk? |
| 14:19.07 | drray | asterisk uses an rfc for sip, and brand X uses the same rfc.. |
| 14:20.01 | gnosys | robl^: can the snom360 be wall-mounted? does it ship with the accessories to do so or are they an extra purchase? |
| 14:20.54 | robl^ | drray: its like HTML. there is a spec for it... but if you view a page in Internet Explorer vs FireFox, you sometimes get different results. Some vendors comply with protocol standards better than others. You may or may not get the expected results. |
| 14:21.07 | gnosys | drray: yes, but it's one thing to say that (rfc and so on) and quite another for the company to officially support the use of their product with a different PBX than their own. |
| 14:21.13 | robl^ | they can be wall mounted if you don't use the sidecar |
| 14:22.02 | robl^ | they have enery thing you need for wall mounting |
| 14:23.00 | gnosys | nice. wish i had known that before i bought my polycom phones. |
| 14:23.03 | robl^ | again people are free to use whatever they want.. I am just talking about why *I* made teh decision to switch. |
| 14:23.31 | gnosys | what about distinctive ring programming with asterisk and snom phones? have you done that robl^? |
| 14:24.47 | robl^ | easy stuff.. just add an extra line to the dialplan.. point it to a wav file on a webserver.. send the dial command.. and it uses that wav file for the ringtone of that call. |
| 14:25.22 | coppice | snoms and polycoms both suffer from no echo suppression in the handset. if someone a little hard of hearing uses one, and turns up the volume, the person at the other end is far from happy. |
| 14:26.29 | gnosys | coppice: I haven't seen that with my polycoms, but I've only been using them for about a week now. |
| 14:26.33 | coppice | too many high end phones are skimping on this |
| 14:27.07 | gnosys | robl^: prolly a dumb question, but the snoms do have a speakerphone right? |
| 14:27.13 | robl^ | no echo problems either with my Snoms. |
| 14:27.32 | coppice | do you actually turn up the volume? |
| 14:27.41 | gnosys | I have with my polycom |
| 14:28.12 | robl^ | the grandstream BT101 has HORRIBLE echo when using the speakerphone. but my fleet of 10 Snom 360s have seen no echo problem. |
| 14:28.42 | robl^ | one of my users keep the volume up to the highest level as well |
| 14:29.15 | tzafrir_laptop | does busydetect in zapata.conf have any effect on FXS channels? |
| 14:30.01 | gnosys | robl^: what VoIP service do you use beyond the LAN at this site? VoicePulse? VoipJet? other? |
| 14:30.40 | robl^ | I use a combination of NuFone, TelIAX, and GalaxyVoice |
| 14:30.59 | gnosys | You use IAX2 for all of them or SIP for some? |
| 14:31.24 | robl^ | IAX@ for NuFone and TelIAX.. SIP for GalaxyVoice |
| 14:31.51 | gnosys | Is that becausee GalaxyVoice doesn't do IAX? |
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| 14:32.37 | coppice | GalaxyVoice sounds like a company that should have some serious latency issues :-) |
| 14:32.46 | robl^ | gnosys: right. they only do SIP. I may be canceling it and moving the DID to TelIAX |
| 14:33.11 | robl^ | coppice: talk about "long distance" :) |
| 14:33.15 | gnosys | Do you have a DID number with NuFone at all? |
| 14:34.05 | robl^ | I have 3 toll-free DIDs with NuFone. TelIAX provides my non-toll free DIDs, except for 1 with GalaxyVoice |
| 14:34.44 | gnosys | Are you happy with NuFone and TelIAX for the DID numbers? Price, quality, etc.? |
| 14:34.52 | gnosys | sound quality i mean |
| 14:34.57 | gnosys | customer service |
| 14:35.28 | robl^ | gnosys: for my needs, yes. I think it all depends on call volume, bandwidth, etc. but for me, it is a good match |
| 14:36.23 | gnosys | Do you ever (or perhaps rarely) have problems with incoming calls? |
| 14:37.27 | robl^ | I have 768K/768K SDSL for my VoIP service. Only rarely do I have problems with incoming calls. I will usually get an email about some sorta outage if there is a problem. |
| 14:38.36 | robl^ | for example, with NuFone they can configure a failover number. if they can't route the call via IAX2 to my server, the call will be forwarded to another number |
| 14:39.33 | gnosys | I think I'll try signing up with TelIAX and NuFone for outbound calls. There's no way to have a combination of providers for inbound calls is there? I'm thinking that maybe there might be some way that a single number accepted calls from two different providers, but that's probably not possible or at least practical. |
| 14:41.12 | robl^ | keep in mind, I have low call volume. Maybe 20-30 calls a day. No "call center". |
| 14:42.51 | gnosys | I expect I'll have even less than that. |
| 14:43.29 | gnosys | If you were planning for higher call volume, say, 50-100 calls per day, what would you change? the connection speed? the service provider? both? other? |
| 14:44.26 | [TK]D-Fender | Balance connection speed based on simultaneous calls. |
| 14:44.46 | robl^ | depends on really the concurrent call count as well.. :) rarely do we have more than 4 concurrent calls to/from the outside. |
| 14:45.26 | [TK]D-Fender | At 8kbps at G.711 that be 32kbps |
| 14:46.25 | robl^ | g711?? umm.. thats full rate... 64kbps + overhead |
| 14:46.39 | robl^ | per call |
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| 14:46.58 | [TK]D-Fender | Then factor in what codec will be used (often G.729a which is much lighter) |
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| 14:48.42 | robl^ | right.. but with g729, it taxes the CPU quite a bit more.. so the server has to work harder.. most calls are ulaw.. though we use g729 for remote phone |
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| 14:58.46 | RoyK | morning |
| 14:58.50 | gnosys | hi |
| 15:01.13 | gnosys | robl^: with your TelIAX account, which of their packaged service plans are you using? pay as you go? corporate? |
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| 15:02.22 | robl^ | gnosys: I have the pay as you go, as my call volume doesn't justify the other plans |
| 15:02.36 | gnosys | i c |
| 15:04.29 | gnosys | robl^: I'm reading through the NuFone account terms. You said you have (at least one) 800 number through them, is that right? |
| 15:06.22 | robl^ | gnosys: yes. I have 3 toll-free numbers.. my account is quite old. I think that billing terms are different now for new users |
| 15:07.19 | robl^ | gnosys: My monthly bill with TelIAX is less than $30.. usually more like $25 |
| 15:07.47 | gnosys | How exactly does that work? Is the toll-free line a line in-and-of itself or does it just take calls and pass them to one of the other incoming lines? If the former, that seems very inexpensive. VoicePulse charges $11.00 / month for a DID number, and it's not toll-free. |
| 15:08.17 | gnosys | NuFone says: "and US48 Toll-Free numbers for $2.50 a month plus 2.0 cents per minute" |
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| 15:08.40 | robl^ | the toll-free DIDs are just forwarded via IAX2 from NuFone directly to my server... just like any other DID |
| 15:09.36 | gnosys | Is that price uncommonly low? What am I missing that VoicePulse would charge more than 4 times that price for a non-toll-free DID line? |
| 15:09.50 | robl^ | inbound calls are dumped to a context.. then based upon the DID number get a "Goto" to other contexts for call handling |
| 15:11.47 | robl^ | VoicePulse charges a lot for very little, in my opinion. NuFone assume that yer call volume (per minute charges) will compensate for the lower per DID charge |
| 15:14.00 | robl^ | at least, that is my understanding |
| 15:17.16 | gnosys | Do you have non-toll-free DID numbers from NuFone in addition to the toll-free ones? If their toll-free lines are only $2.50/month, I'm wondering what their non-toll-free lines go for. They say that they are $7.50/month in Michigan (would that be without any per-minute charges?). Does that imply (I wonder) that they only offer toll-free lines outside of Michigan, and don't have any non-toll-free DIDs to offer outside there? |
| 15:18.03 | robl^ | I only use NuFone for toll-free and a backup for outbound |
| 15:18.29 | gnosys | It looks like they actually run Asterisk themselves. Is that right? |
| 15:18.53 | gnosys | Are there other options for providing IAX2 service than with *? |
| 15:19.46 | robl^ | gnosys: one of the owners of NuFone is an active Asterisk developer |
| 15:20.08 | RoyK | gnosys: yate supports iax2 |
| 15:20.35 | RoyK | robl^: you mean jerjer? |
| 15:20.46 | robl^ | RoyK: yeah |
| 15:21.06 | gnosys | IAX is apparently a trademark of Digium. Was the protocol invented by them? |
| 15:21.12 | robl^ | he is *still* active, right? |
| 15:21.13 | RoyK | 'active asterisk developer' isn't really what he is imhoyes |
| 15:21.21 | RoyK | yes |
| 15:21.30 | RoyK | gnosys: inter asterisk exchange |
| 15:21.34 | gnosys | right. |
| 15:22.14 | RoyK | robl^: jerjer has only written some of chan_h323, not really a lot |
| 15:22.27 | RoyK | robl^: do a grep -ri jeremy in the asterisk tree :P |
| 15:22.41 | gnosys | So, does that imply that any IAX2 provider is doing so with asterisk? (or perhaps yate?) |
| 15:23.01 | gnosys | IOW, only open source implementations? |
| 15:23.07 | RoyK | yes |
| 15:23.41 | RoyK | gnosys: why? |
| 15:24.21 | gnosys | Well, I'm researching options for a DID myself, and I've learned enough about SIP and IAX2 to know that IAX2 is vastly preferable to SIP. |
| 15:25.07 | RoyK | there are pros and cons for both sip and iax2 |
| 15:25.09 | gnosys | I'm trying to get quality vs. price comparisons for a range of providers. I think I'm getting ready to go with robl^'s solution: NuFone and TelIAX |
| 15:25.19 | RoyK | iax2 is better implemented in * than sip |
| 15:25.34 | RoyK | and sip has problems with nat |
| 15:25.59 | RoyK | search the asteirsk mailing lists about nufone and support |
| 15:26.07 | RoyK | iirc they suck |
| 15:26.19 | gnosys | for support? |
| 15:26.22 | RoyK | yes |
| 15:26.27 | RoyK | US DIDs? |
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| 15:26.39 | gnosys | yes |
| 15:28.54 | gnosys | generally, for a DID, does the company charge a flat rate per month as well as per-minute charges that come in over that line or just the flat rate? I know NuFone sells toll-free DIDs at 2.50/month plus $.02 per-minute, but I'm curious about non-toll-free numbers. |
| 15:29.50 | tzanger | gnosys: you can get it both ways |
| 15:29.51 | RoyK | i really have no idea about the US market |
| 15:29.57 | tzanger | personally I prefer cheap cheap DIDs and per-minute on incoming |
| 15:30.03 | tzanger | just like I prefer per-minute on outgoing |
| 15:30.15 | tzanger | it's rare that I run up $30 worth of calls a month |
| 15:31.40 | gnosys | tzanger: I don't want to compromise on quality of the sound/service for a DID, but with that in mind, what would you say is a "cheap cheap" price for a DID? NuFone is the lowest I've seen at $2.50 / month plus $0.02 per minute and that seems pretty good to me, but that's after having reviewed a limited number of providers. |
| 15:31.57 | tzanger | yeah $2-$3 range is what I consider "cheap cheap" |
| 15:32.06 | gnosys | Do you use NuFone? |
| 15:32.09 | tzanger | yep |
| 15:32.16 | tzanger | they're my primary termination provider |
| 15:32.23 | tzanger | used them for the last 2.5 years approx. |
| 15:32.35 | gnosys | happy with 'em? overall? customer service? quality? |
| 15:33.29 | tzanger | very happy with them. customer service is a bit of a bitch but honestly I've only needed it a couple of times over that 2.5 years and it's always been my end that has the trouble. |
| 15:33.33 | tzanger | HOWEVER |
| 15:34.08 | tzanger | Jerjer himself has spent a number of hours with me personally working on tracking down IAX2 bugs. The only ohter provider which has done that for me has been Asterlink. |
| 15:34.15 | tzanger | (that's bkw and anthm's company) |
| 15:34.18 | tzanger | and file's too I think |
| 15:34.54 | RoyK | i thought jerjer was only in on the h323 part |
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| 15:35.02 | tzanger | They are also very good but I cannot for the life of me use qualify with them. The calls sound fine but the qualify messages drive me right fucking nuts |
| 15:35.11 | tzanger | RoyK: nope |
| 15:35.32 | gnosys | can't use qualify with who? Asterlink? |
| 15:35.36 | tzanger | yeah |
| 15:35.37 | gnosys | or file's? |
| 15:35.46 | gnosys | where's file's website? |
| 15:35.48 | tzanger | file/anthm/bkw work for/own (not sure which) asterlink |
| 15:35.51 | RoyK | i can't use qualify with fscking LAN clients |
| 15:35.57 | robl^ | I've not had much trouble with NuFone support. Keep in mind they are a small outfit. Don't expect 500 live-operators waiting for your call. They are minimalistic. But, the few times I have needed support, I sent emails and got a response within a couple hours, depending on time of day. I have been with them since before they really went public |
| 15:36.14 | tzanger | robl^: same here |
| 15:36.43 | RoyK | where is the nufone price list? |
| 15:36.48 | tzanger | I also use unlimitel for their on-net termination since it's CAD$0.011/min. Nufone/Asterlink/prettymcuheveryoneelse is USD$0.0195 |
| 15:36.57 | tzanger | RoyK: check their website |
| 15:37.05 | RoyK | tzanger: didn't find anything there |
| 15:37.45 | tzanger | RoyK: hmm you're right |
| 15:37.47 | tzanger | it *was* on there |
| 15:38.03 | gnosys | The only thing I found was their main page... there should be more, tzanger? |
| 15:38.07 | tzanger | basically USD$0.0195/min US48+Canada |
| 15:38.11 | robl^ | they are re-doing their website again.. |
| 15:38.19 | tzanger | or is it $0.02 US48 and $0.0195 Canada |
| 15:38.36 | tzanger | gnosys: not really no; as robl^ said, they are very minimalistic. |
| 15:39.28 | gnosys | Well thanks, you guys. |
| 15:39.44 | gnosys | I think I've decided on a toll-free DID with NuFone. |
| 15:40.01 | RoyK | wtf is US48? |
| 15:40.24 | robl^ | RoyK: all of US except Alaska and Hawaii |
| 15:40.46 | benjk | and except Canada!!! |
| 15:40.59 | robl^ | Canada is NOT US :) |
| 15:41.04 | benjk | indeed |
| 15:41.14 | JunK-Y | alaska is a bit far from US vs the canada :P |
| 15:41.28 | benjk | it is nevertheless quite silly that Canadians cannot call 1-866 numbers |
| 15:41.42 | robl^ | Alaska is the forgotten state. ;) |
| 15:41.47 | JunK-Y | benjk: we can call 1-866 numbers. |
| 15:41.49 | benjk | no matter what they do - even if they are happy to pay |
| 15:41.58 | JunK-Y | robl^: no, the frozen state ;) |
| 15:41.59 | benjk | not all of them |
| 15:42.22 | benjk | if its is a Canadian 1-866 number, yes |
| 15:42.27 | JunK-Y | same thing for 800, 900 numbers. |
| 15:42.29 | tzanger | benjk: it depends ENTIRELY on the "owner" of the number |
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| 15:42.39 | benjk | it depends on the provider |
| 15:42.42 | tzanger | you can order tollfree as US48, US+Canada, US+Mexico, US+Canada+Mexico, etc. |
| 15:42.47 | NewSole | we can call any 866 num |
| 15:42.55 | robl^ | on the provider and agreed rates |
| 15:42.56 | benjk | NewSole: not correct |
| 15:43.08 | tzanger | NewSole: we have an 800 and 877 number that is only available in Canada; you can't call it from the US |
| 15:43.17 | tzanger | benjk: it *is* correct |
| 15:43.35 | tzanger | we can call any tollfree number that is "allowed" to accept calls from Canada |
| 15:43.36 | benjk | NewSole is not correct |
| 15:43.49 | tzanger | benjk: honestly do not argue things you do not understand. |
| 15:44.05 | jbroome | what fun is that? |
| 15:44.07 | benjk | there are 1-866 numbers which cannot be called depeding on which NANPA area you're in |
| 15:44.14 | tzanger | I think the toll free restrictions are actually on an area-code basis. I can order my 800# to not accept calls from 519, for instance |
| 15:44.15 | JunK-Y | tzanger: happy new year man. |
| 15:44.33 | robl^ | there are US toll free numbers that can only be called from certain regions of the US. (not as common, but they do exist) |
| 15:44.35 | benjk | yes, but he said *any* |
| 15:44.35 | tzanger | benjk: exactly, but we can call any 800/866/877/888 number that is allowed to accept calls from our area code |
| 15:44.42 | tzanger | benjk: you're being a fucking pedant again |
| 15:44.49 | benjk | and any means every single one |
| 15:44.49 | tzanger | JunK-Y: et tu. :-) |
| 15:45.06 | benjk | I am eh? |
| 15:45.10 | benjk | how about him |
| 15:45.24 | JunK-Y | et tu is prolly toi aussi :) |
| 15:45.29 | NewSole | benjk>.. I can call any one I want All I have to do is change my caller ID Number |
| 15:45.36 | tzanger | JunK-Y: I never was very good at French. :-) |
| 15:45.39 | tzafrir_laptop | again, does busydetect in zapata.conf have any effect on FXS channels? |
| 15:45.40 | benjk | he said *any* even though it was clear from context that there are providers through which numbers are restricted |
| 15:46.02 | JunK-Y | tzanger: that's what my ex-gf said too :P |
| 15:46.03 | JunK-Y | mouhahah |
| 15:46.05 | tzanger | :-) |
| 15:46.06 | RoyK | tzanger: interesting... my price to US is .0204 |
| 15:46.10 | RoyK | terminated in .lt |
| 15:46.19 | tzanger | RoyK: interesting |
| 15:46.28 | RoyK | that's all of US |
| 15:46.32 | JunK-Y | tzafrir_laptop: i dunno |
| 15:46.36 | NewSole | our price is 0.015 |
| 15:46.48 | RoyK | NewSole: terminating where? |
| 15:46.52 | NewSole | even cheaper on bulk |
| 15:47.15 | tzafrir_laptop | JunK-Y, you mean I actually have to check the source? |
| 15:47.23 | robl^ | oh yeah.. I pay.. 3.141562635 cents per min ;) |
| 15:47.24 | NewSole | north america all 50 states and canada too |
| 15:47.55 | tzanger | robl^: that's not quite pi :-) 3.14157429... I forget the rest :-) |
| 15:48.14 | robl^ | darn! my pi calculator is broken |
| 15:48.20 | NewSole | lol |
| 15:48.24 | RoyK | NewSole: what provider is this? |
| 15:48.36 | H202 | tzanger: you are wrong, too :-) |
| 15:48.50 | NewSole | us... virttel |
| 15:48.54 | tzanger | my pi calculator is in the cutlery drawer... it can divide and subtract pi amazingly well :-) |
| 15:49.16 | tzanger | H202: I thought the first 9 digits were 3.14157429 |
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| 15:50.31 | RoyK | http://www.Ï€.com/ |
| 15:50.32 | robl^ | I have a toll free number that just works between my office and the one down the hall.. : not exactly useful, but keeps Christine from calling the Home Shopping Network while she is working |
| 15:52.01 | frenzy | hey.. |
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| 15:52.12 | tzanger | NewSole: I *still* don't understand your username/peer combinations... 5324982500000320400043204006534200@virttell... heh |
| 15:52.14 | frenzy | can someone tell me what load=codec_ulaw.so is used for |
| 15:52.31 | frenzy | my bad |
| 15:52.34 | robl^ | loads the ulaw codec |
| 15:52.41 | frenzy | format_ulaw |
| 15:53.03 | JunK-Y | to record in ulaw? |
| 15:53.19 | frenzy | load=format_pcm.so ; Raw uLaw 8khz Audio support (PCM) |
| 15:53.36 | JunK-Y | do a show file formats |
| 15:53.37 | NewSole | different code types for different connection types |
| 15:53.39 | *** part/#asterisk darkskiez (n=darkskie@bb-194-6-119-240.ukonline.co.uk) |
| 15:54.15 | frenzy | but format_X is used for recording ? |
| 15:54.32 | JunK-Y | unload it, u will see that format will be gone from the list. |
| 15:54.48 | JunK-Y | not just to record, to play too |
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| 15:58.30 | frenzy | load=chan_local.so ; Local Proxy Channel |
| 15:58.31 | frenzy | ? |
| 15:59.53 | JunK-Y | its to load the chan_local, pretty clear? |
| 16:00.07 | JunK-Y | show channeltypes, if u unload it, it will disapear from that list. |
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| 16:04.48 | frenzy | I'm facing frequent load issues |
| 16:04.59 | *** part/#asterisk mhnoyes (n=mhnoyes@user-2ivfj2e.dialup.mindspring.com) |
| 16:05.06 | frenzy | 99.9% cpu loads |
| 16:06.08 | frenzy | is there a bash command that can be used to restart asterisk in grace mode (when no active voice channels) |
| 16:06.26 | JunK-Y | frenzy: restart when convenient |
| 16:06.47 | tzafrir_laptop | asterisk -rx 'restart when convenient' |
| 16:06.48 | JunK-Y | and you should give a quick look on voip-info.org |
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| 16:08.19 | frenzy | I belive the load is caused by heavy transcoding |
| 16:09.32 | frenzy | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:09.40 | frenzy | I'm not getting a verbose output |
| 16:09.51 | frenzy | like I do when /usr/sbin/asterisk -rx reload |
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| 16:10.42 | JunK-Y | thats normal |
| 16:11.02 | frenzy | should the ' be included? |
| 16:11.10 | JunK-Y | just : /usr/sbin/asterisk -rx 'show uptime' u will see it restarting at a moment or another. |
| 16:12.04 | frenzy | cool |
| 16:14.06 | frenzy | does restarting really bang down asterisk and start up fresh? |
| 16:14.33 | JunK-Y | yes |
| 16:14.53 | frenzy | after restarting I saw two asterisk processes each 50% |
| 16:15.26 | JunK-Y | its probably due an mpg123 process no? |
| 16:15.37 | JunK-Y | killall -9 mpg123 |
| 16:16.06 | frenzy | mpg doenst exist |
| 16:16.12 | frenzy | and MOH is disabled |
| 16:16.34 | JunK-Y | which * ? |
| 16:16.40 | JunK-Y | (version) |
| 16:16.41 | frenzy | 1.2.1 |
| 16:17.14 | JunK-Y | even at 0 calls, its returns at 99.9% cpu load? |
| 16:18.56 | frenzy | couple hours after and and calls later whether 5 calls or 0 calls |
| 16:19.29 | frenzy | never mind I think the restart will do the trick.. |
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| 16:30.38 | gushi | Hey all. Basic stupid question -- how do you do a transfer to another extension in *? |
| 16:32.05 | gushi | I'm using phones (grandstream) that do not have dedicated transfer buttons. |
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| 16:41.34 | JunK-Y | gushi: dial with t or T |
| 16:43.07 | gushi | no, I mean from a handset. |
| 16:45.06 | JunK-Y | ur handset is link to a keypad, no? |
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| 16:48.57 | gushi | Yes, but where's the "t" on your standard dtmf handset? |
| 16:50.40 | mistral | hum anyone know of a way to reset ip_conntrack table in linux ? |
| 16:50.50 | gushi | or let's say I was using an ATA186, how would I do a transfer with that? |
| 16:52.54 | JunK-Y | gushi: show application dial |
| 16:53.01 | JunK-Y | and read the t and T options. |
| 16:54.27 | gushi | So look for the feature in features.conf |
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| 17:03.23 | ManxPower | http://www.userfriendly.org/static/ |
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| 17:03.54 | frenzy | what does safe_asterisk do? |
| 17:04.10 | ManxPower | frenzy, it's a shell script. read it |
| 17:04.55 | JunK-Y | ManxPower: just as curiosity which Rev do u use for ur polycom in production? |
| 17:05.31 | ManxPower | JunK-Y, I'd have to look, but I think it is 1.6.2 |
| 17:05.53 | JunK-Y | k |
| 17:07.48 | ManxPower | Nope. User-Agent: PolycomSoundPointIP-SPIP_300-UA/1.5.2.0054 |
| 17:08.07 | *** join/#asterisk Cyberchen (n=USER@access-sg.comba.ch) |
| 17:08.52 | ManxPower | I THINK I read the 1.6 release notes and didn't see anything that would be a required upgrade for us. |
| 17:09.16 | JunK-Y | ive 1.5.2 too on my personnal polycom. |
| 17:09.40 | RoyK | ~seen zoa |
| 17:09.44 | jbot | zoa is currently on #asterisk. Has said a total of 22 messages. Is idling for 1d 3h 41m 2s |
| 17:09.44 | ManxPower | I've been unable to get the 3.x bootrom to load on my polycoms. |
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| 17:11.26 | JunK-Y | still have 2.6.1 |
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| 17:14.30 | TheCops | ManxPower, freedomphones is very nice for firmware, I did backup of all files, polycom own! |
| 17:15.09 | ManxPower | JunK-Y, The latest 1.6.x series looks like it has some useful features added. |
| 17:15.50 | ManxPower | 1.5.2 was a required upgrade for us because of the ability to disable call waiting in that release |
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| 17:23.10 | phonetalk | hello everybody |
| 17:24.47 | ManxPower | BTW, how many inches in 1U (as in rack space)? |
| 17:25.07 | ManxPower | I thought it was 1" for some reason, but I don't think that's correct. |
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| 17:26.14 | NewSole | 1 1/4 |
| 17:26.57 | nain | Hi Everybody |
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| 17:53.06 | gnosys | robl^ you still here? |
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| 17:53.38 | gnosys | anybody here use NuFone for a DID? |
| 17:54.04 | ManxPower | gnosys, I have two DIDs from Nufone. |
| 17:54.22 | ManxPower | Nufone has tollfree DIDs and Mich DIDs. |
| 17:54.50 | gnosys | Does obtaining them require a human or is there an automated way to get them? I just signed up with them and don't see a way to buy a DID on the website... |
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| 17:55.25 | nain | Hi every body |
| 17:55.26 | ManxPower | gnosys, their interface is...interesting. If I recall correctly, you can buy a DID via your portal on their web site. |
| 17:55.54 | gnosys | hmmm... i don't see one. i see account data, but nothing else. |
| 17:56.40 | p0g0_ | hi-would this be an appropriate place to ask about a spandsp patch failing while trying to build asterisk-1.2.1 and AMP? |
| 17:56.42 | gnosys | Doh... I found it. |
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| 17:58.40 | smirl | p0g0_, yea probably would be. |
| 17:58.55 | smirl | unless there's a spanDSP irc channel lol |
| 17:59.25 | nain | Is there a way that i can store each caller message in it's own mail box using 1800 number ? |
| 18:00.11 | smirl | a new mailbox for each new caller? |
| 18:00.29 | nain | yes |
| 18:00.34 | p0g0_ | smirl: the makefile.rej indicates that app_qcall.so should be getting replaced by app_rfax.so and app_tfax.so |
| 18:00.51 | Cyberchen | p0g0_ no way ... i tryd the same .. 2 days a go .. |
| 18:01.12 | p0g0_ | smirl: simply put, if I don't care about faxing, I can ignore this safely, can't I... or at least deal with it later? |
| 18:01.15 | Cyberchen | p0g0_ if you make the changes manual to the makefile ... the build fails with .. missing seperator ... |
| 18:01.26 | nain | smirl: Actually the senerio is that user is calling from 1800 number and identify by Authenticate application after all i wanted to store each caller in it's own mailbox |
| 18:03.09 | p0g0_ | Cyberchen: that rings a bell...I saw a one liner somewhere that indicated a missing uhmm comma or semi-colon, but I paid it no mind..I might be able to dig it up & see it if pertains to this |
| 18:03.58 | p0g0_ | Cyberchen: would it be good advice to undo that patch and carry on without it? Faxing is pretty far down the list. |
| 18:04.09 | Cyberchen | yeah |
| 18:04.16 | Cyberchen | works great without the patch |
| 18:04.18 | Cyberchen | or not |
| 18:04.20 | Cyberchen | ;) |
| 18:04.27 | Cyberchen | but the fax stuff is not a problem |
| 18:04.42 | Cyberchen | you can forget the patch and just disable the fax stuff at amp |
| 18:05.21 | nain | User is calling from 1800 number and i wanted to store each caller in it's own mailbox how's it's possible? |
| 18:05.27 | Cyberchen | * 1.2.1 + latest amp .. but i have problems :( |
| 18:05.52 | gnosys | anyone here use VoipJet? |
| 18:05.54 | p0g0_ | Cyberchen: I'll do that. If "faxing isn't the problem", idle curiousity drives me enquire, what is? |
| 18:05.54 | Cyberchen | p0g0_ but dont worry, i had all working in the past without the spandsp patch on it |
| 18:06.10 | p0g0_ | ok . What me worry... |
| 18:06.14 | p0g0_ | thx |
| 18:06.24 | gnosys | Cyberchen, I just noticed you said you use amp. Do you like it (in general... aside from your problems)? |
| 18:06.32 | Cyberchen | yes |
| 18:06.38 | Cyberchen | its endles cool |
| 18:06.46 | Cyberchen | ... if it works :) |
| 18:07.06 | Cyberchen | you can do all the base stuff you need with it |
| 18:07.22 | Cyberchen | all the daily shit .. like adding users and so .. or trunks .. or or or |
| 18:07.30 | Cyberchen | and .. you can still hardcode your stuff |
| 18:07.57 | Cyberchen | its really nice .. but since i tryd to update .. i really having problems to get it to work |
| 18:07.58 | nain | Anyone Voicemail expert |
| 18:08.48 | Cyberchen | gnosys why do you ask? |
| 18:10.16 | gnosys | I'm thinking of trying amp, just curious about other folks who are using it. |
| 18:10.33 | p0g0_ | Cyberchen: that update would be to asterisk 1.2.1 ? From 1.2.0? Or prior? |
| 18:10.49 | Cyberchen | p0g0_ dont ask me .. |
| 18:10.54 | p0g0_ | ok sorry |
| 18:11.00 | Cyberchen | p0g0_ from * 0.9 ... ;) |
| 18:11.03 | Cyberchen | or something |
| 18:11.08 | Cyberchen | or 1.0 ? |
| 18:11.13 | Cyberchen | p0g0_ cant remember ... |
| 18:11.16 | p0g0_ | np |
| 18:11.35 | Cyberchen | p0g0_ im trying now since 3 weeks to get it running ... |
| 18:11.38 | mrdigital | gnosys: can i show you a better asterisk webgui then amp |
| 18:11.52 | gnosys | sure. |
| 18:11.52 | Cyberchen | mrdigital ... url? |
| 18:12.07 | mrdigital | www.voiceone.it click the english flag on the upper right |
| 18:12.57 | gnosys | mrdigital, just out of curiosity, what's your connection to it? happy user? author? investor? ;-) |
| 18:13.31 | gnosys | is there an english language version... i'm working on learning italian, but not there yet. |
| 18:13.44 | mrdigital | gnosys: click on the british flag on the upper right |
| 18:13.49 | Cyberchen | hmm |
| 18:13.53 | mrdigital | thats the english version |
| 18:13.53 | Cyberchen | looks really cool |
| 18:13.56 | gnosys | ah. thanks. |
| 18:13.59 | mrdigital | i am stuck on installing it tho |
| 18:14.04 | Cyberchen | mrdigital thx2! |
| 18:14.28 | mrdigital | Cyberchen: let me know what you come up with im stuck at one part |
| 18:14.38 | Cyberchen | what part? |
| 18:14.41 | mrdigital | holdon |
| 18:14.50 | Cyberchen | no .. have to go and eat something ... bbl |
| 18:17.00 | mrdigital | An error occurred while the WSDL was being accessed: wsdl error: HTTP ERROR: Couldn't open socket connection to server http://root:voiceone@localhost/voiceone_webservices/server.php?wsdl, Error (13): Permission denied |
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| 18:17.57 | Cyberchen | mrdigital try to chmod everything ;) |
| 18:18.06 | mrdigital | ok |
| 18:18.39 | gnosys | mrdigital, you've tried amp? |
| 18:18.52 | *** join/#asterisk Fantasy (i=user226@server.ivinskis.kursenai.lm.lt) |
| 18:19.39 | mrdigital | maybe im running the script as root? |
| 18:19.43 | mrdigital | does apache have a user? |
| 18:20.32 | tzafrir_laptop | you try to authenticate to apache as root. Are you sure this is needed? |
| 18:21.00 | tzafrir_laptop | apache typically does not authenticate from system accounts |
| 18:22.14 | mrdigital | i get permission denied |
| 18:23.46 | mrdigital | whats a SoapUsername and SoapPassword> |
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| 18:25.39 | p0g0_ | Soap Is an MS object broker protocol I think... I have no idea about it's use here. |
| 18:27.14 | mrdigital | Soapusername and password must the be the same as htaccessusername and password in /voiceone_services/config/cfg.php |
| 18:27.18 | tzafrir_laptop | p0g0_, not only MS. Have you ever tried soup? |
| 18:27.32 | p0g0_ | nope |
| 18:27.48 | tzafrir_laptop | Should probably taste better than soap |
| 18:27.50 | p0g0_ | assuming you don't mean the edible stuff. |
| 18:29.06 | Martz | how do I switch my configuration to mysql? I think it is over ridding my using the config files.. |
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| 18:29.41 | Corydon76-home | extconfig.conf |
| 18:30.21 | Martz | is that just for queues? |
| 18:30.23 | Martz | or for everything? |
| 18:30.44 | Martz | because my extensions from mysql do not show up when I type "show dialplan" |
| 18:30.49 | Corydon76-home | Anything |
| 18:31.05 | Martz | should they show up there then? if I create ext 501 for example |
| 18:31.29 | Corydon76-home | Your extensions can only come from a single place |
| 18:32.02 | Corydon76-home | Either mysql or the config file... pick on |
| 18:32.04 | Corydon76-home | one |
| 18:32.28 | Martz | im trying to get this going with AMP.. but anything I do via the web interface I cant see on the console.. I can see it making connections and it will reload.. but I dont see the changes I have put in... and it doesnt write anything out from the mysql database to the config files - which I assume is correct? |
| 18:32.53 | Corydon76-home | Oh, you're using AMP |
| 18:33.04 | Corydon76-home | Ask on the AMP mailing list |
| 18:33.35 | Martz | thanks anyway :) |
| 18:33.56 | Martz | im guessing its a problem with Asterisk still using the config files rather than the mysql config though |
| 18:33.58 | Corydon76-home | Ask the people whose code it is |
| 18:34.07 | Martz | rather than the AMP side of things |
| 18:37.40 | tzafrir_laptop | Martz, if you're trying to hack AMP, consider dumping it and starting from scratch. AMP is complicated and difficult to figure out. |
| 18:37.54 | Martz | just trying to get it working =) |
| 18:38.00 | Martz | is there a better manager? |
| 18:38.05 | tzafrir_laptop | vi |
| 18:38.12 | tzafrir_laptop | Seriously |
| 18:38.16 | Martz | i'll stick with nano ;) |
| 18:38.31 | Martz | i got some basic stuff up and running without a manager |
| 18:38.43 | Martz | which was a sip peer |
| 18:38.43 | tzafrir_laptop | For instance: try changing the number of an extension |
| 18:39.29 | tzafrir_laptop | nano has lousy undo. emacs and vi are much better there. |
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| 18:40.38 | Martz | yeah, im sure it is much more powerful |
| 18:40.44 | Martz | i just dont need it |
| 18:41.17 | tzafrir_laptop | Anyway, you were saying? |
| 18:41.31 | Martz | nm, im starting over |
| 18:41.37 | Martz | AMP just got deleted |
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| 18:52.03 | trym | is there any way of making a SIP/ entry in queues unavailible? Or do I have to make it an agent.. and do logoff ? |
| 18:52.39 | Qwell[] | Not sure if you can, but you might be able to pause a static member |
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| 18:55.20 | iPBX | Ok, new name folks, this one should be more permanent |
| 18:55.27 | iPBX | :-) |
| 18:55.34 | trym | Qwell[], pausing would be great.. any idae how ? |
| 18:55.44 | Qwell[] | PauseQueueMember |
| 18:55.53 | Qwell[] | from the dialplan |
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| 18:56.28 | iPBX | ~weather KMWN |
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| 19:07.32 | RoyK | ~weather oslo |
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| 19:12.47 | RoyK | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+addon+rate-engine |
| 19:13.00 | RoyK | is this interesting or are there other works in progress that are better? |
| 19:13.21 | _Sam-- | i know there is no real answer to this....but for residential customers, what is general concensus of who is the best provider? |
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| 19:16.56 | ionix | Any suggestion for a Text to Speech program/website? It doesn't need to be real-time. The one that I think is best is ATT's research lab but maybe there is a better one out there. |
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| 19:21.19 | hhrp | hi |
| 19:21.41 | hhrp | im having problems with installing OH323 channel on bsd 5.4 |
| 19:22.00 | hhrp | after trying to Make Pwlib its giving errors |
| 19:22.06 | hhrp | anyone has similar experience? |
| 19:22.15 | hhrp | Makefile", line 185: Need an operator |
| 19:22.15 | hhrp | "make/ptlib.mak", line 37: Need an operator |
| 19:22.15 | hhrp | "make/ptlib.mak", line 39: Need an operator |
| 19:22.19 | hhrp | etc |
| 19:23.40 | hhrp | its like when i type export |
| 19:23.44 | mrdigital | can ayone here do flash? |
| 19:23.54 | hhrp | it says incorrect command |
| 19:26.45 | bkw__ | gmake vs make? |
| 19:26.56 | bkw__ | i'm sure on bsd you need to use gmake right? |
| 19:27.08 | Qwell[] | indeed you do |
| 19:27.42 | rob0 | "Need an operator" isn't talking about someone at the PBX switchboard, huh? ;) |
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| 19:40.37 | gnosys | anybody here use VoipJet? |
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| 19:47.31 | drray | I have a voipjet test account |
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| 19:53.59 | RoyK | ~seen zoa |
| 19:54.03 | jbot | zoa is currently on #asterisk. Has said a total of 22 messages. Is idling for 1d 6h 25m 21s |
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| 20:06.51 | slappingt | ne1 have time for a question about connecting 2 linksys switches togehter? |
| 20:14.02 | IronHelix | sure |
| 20:14.11 | IronHelix | its easy- just connect them with a ethernet cable |
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| 20:14.30 | IronHelix | if they dont have auto-mdiX then hook the Uplink port of one to a non-uplink port on the other |
| 20:14.38 | IronHelix | remember, the last port and uplink are ususally the same |
| 20:14.59 | IronHelix | so if you have 1 2 3 4 5 Uplink, then you can only use 5 or uplink at the same time (not both) |
| 20:15.22 | IronHelix | Uplink is just a port that's wired differently |
| 20:15.42 | IronHelix | you can also use a crossover cable and plug any of the two same kinds of ports to each other |
| 20:15.58 | IronHelix | ie (normalport) -> xover cable -> (normalport) |
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| 20:16.10 | IronHelix | or (uplinkport) -> normal cable -> normalport |
| 20:16.45 | IronHelix | unless either/both of the switches support 'auto mdi/mdi-x' (auto crossover), in which case just connect any port to any other port with any kind of cable and it will work automatically |
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| 20:17.29 | hhrp | shit |
| 20:17.32 | hhrp | i forgot gmake |
| 20:17.33 | ManxPower | "IronHelix Investigations: We help the helpless!" |
| 20:17.34 | hhrp | thanks |
| 20:22.12 | IronHelix | hehehe |
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| 20:28.46 | trym | how can I prevent asterisk from making the ringing sound itself.. and just pass through what is actually being sent from my sip provider? |
| 20:30.53 | ManxPower | trym, don't use the "r" option. |
| 20:31.18 | ManxPower | However, since in SIP ringing is sent as a MESSAGE rather than as AUDIO.... |
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| 20:33.20 | meebey | I installed chan-capi-cm 0.6.2 with asterisk 1.2.1 and I get the following when I do a call over my avm fritz card: Jan 1 21:32:48 WARNING[6368]: channel.c:784 channel_find_locked: Avoided initial deadlock for '0x8133078', 10 retries! |
| 20:33.22 | Wikipedia-Gast42 | hooray hooray, this is a wonderful day for i found my cow |
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| 20:33.36 | iPBX | lol |
| 20:33.37 | trym | ManxPower: ahhh .. retarded me |
| 20:33.41 | iPBX | he found his COW! |
| 20:34.13 | ManxPower | meebey, it should be a harmless message. |
| 20:34.39 | meebey | maybe then I use the wrong name of the CAPI channel |
| 20:34.52 | meebey | I use CAPI/... is that still right? |
| 20:35.05 | meebey | since I called the card ISDN1 in the capi.conf I used chan capi 0.3.5 before |
| 20:35.16 | justinu | you can send inband tones with sip |
| 20:35.20 | justinu | i do it all the time |
| 20:35.52 | meebey | the call gets rejected after that message with: |
| 20:35.57 | ManxPower | justinu, Yes, but you have to control both ends of the link., |
| 20:36.05 | justinu | how so? |
| 20:36.16 | meebey | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:36.19 | meebey | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:36.21 | meebey | isnt that valid anymore? |
| 20:36.28 | ManxPower | justinu, how are you going to get inband tones from your provider? |
| 20:36.35 | justinu | if you get an inbound call, and send a 183 progress, the other end should at least cut the audio path one way |
| 20:36.50 | justinu | oh, i just asked mine for it |
| 20:37.05 | ManxPower | justinu, I assumed he was referring to an outbound call via a provider. |
| 20:37.14 | ManxPower | Granted, he didn't actually say much useful. |
| 20:37.15 | justinu | i see, i didn't read it |
| 20:37.17 | meebey | hm I think I found it, CAPI/ISDN1/... I want |
| 20:37.18 | justinu | heh |
| 20:38.06 | ManxPower | I guess I really should try to do laundry today. |
| 20:38.09 | meebey | seems to work again :) |
| 20:38.23 | justinu | ManxPower: too much excitement |
| 20:38.25 | meebey | thats what happens when you jump from 0.3.5 to 0.6.2 :) |
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| 21:02.07 | trym | I want to give a caller waiting in a queue, the option to leave a message or continue holding.. after a certain time. Any links to a documents describing this ? |
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| 21:04.33 | [TK]D-Fender | trym : use the timout feature on the diaplan line calling the Queue. |
| 21:05.13 | trym | ah sweet.. |
| 21:05.27 | trym | didnt know it had a timeout.. and I guess I was to lazy to check ;) |
| 21:06.10 | [TK]D-Fender | its Queue(thequeue|||300) or so for 300s (5mins max) before quiting back to the dialplan to be able to leave voicemail. |
| 21:06.39 | [TK]D-Fender | I think taht since you can give them the option to leave voicemail when THEY feel like it that this should not really be used for taht purpose though. |
| 21:07.35 | trym | is there a way to detect that there are no availible agents/phones to answer the queue? |
| 21:08.00 | [TK]D-Fender | depends on when, and how I guess. |
| 21:08.03 | [TK]D-Fender | Whats your goal? |
| 21:08.14 | rob0 | "Your call is important to us, but not so much that we would actually hire enough people to answer it." |
| 21:08.21 | trym | ;) |
| 21:08.33 | trym | well more like, when everyone has left for the day |
| 21:08.40 | trym | but I dont want to set a fixed time |
| 21:08.43 | rob0 | noon ;) |
| 21:08.49 | trym | because people might be here a few hours closing time |
| 21:08.57 | [TK]D-Fender | The are 2 flag in the queue def for "joinwhenempty" and "leaveempty" |
| 21:09.17 | trym | ah true.. |
| 21:09.44 | [TK]D-Fender | trym : use the * DB to set a value that you will check before letting callers into the queu in the first place. thats the easiest way to have flexible queue hours. |
| 21:09.55 | trym | sounds good |
| 21:09.56 | trym | thanks :) |
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| 21:11.11 | [TK]D-Fender | howevere you will pass on responsibility to your agents to shut down the queue and not leave customers hanging |
| 21:11.30 | [TK]D-Fender | maybe the best way is a hybrid time / variable shutdown. (safeguard) |
| 21:13.08 | trym | yeah.. that would be optimal |
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| 22:10.07 | puzzled | evening |
| 22:10.36 | drray | morning |
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| 22:15.24 | rob0 | afternoon! |
| 22:15.54 | rob0 | (that about covers it I guess) |
| 22:16.06 | Qwell[] | night |
| 22:16.38 | RoyK | evening |
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| 22:18.08 | RoyK | ~seen Katty |
| 22:18.18 | jbot | katty is currently on #asterisk. Has said a total of 108 messages. Is idling for 2d 50m 12s |
| 22:18.36 | RoyK | http://karlsbakk.net/fun/cat.mpg |
| 22:20.25 | meebey | I dont get a ring signal anymore, is that a setting in asterisk? |
| 22:20.54 | meebey | when I make a call, it doesn't make any sounds till he otherside picks up |
| 22:21.30 | JunK-Y | mouhaahha @royk |
| 22:22.53 | Fubster | in regards to music on hold, what is the best bitrate for the mp3s, so i don't get WARNING[7696]: res_musiconhold.c:833 moh_register: Unable to open pseudo channel for timing... Sound may be choppy. |
| 22:23.13 | Qwell[] | Fubster: That error is because you don't have a timing source |
| 22:23.20 | Qwell[] | such as a zap card, or ztdummy |
| 22:23.31 | meebey | no support for RTC? |
| 22:23.38 | Qwell[] | I didn't think MoH needed timing, but... |
| 22:23.41 | Qwell[] | meebey: through ztdummy |
| 22:23.47 | meebey | ic |
| 22:23.54 | Fubster | doh |
| 22:23.58 | Fubster | i forgot to modprobe it |
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| 22:53.32 | SarahEmm | hihi |
| 22:54.02 | JunK-Y | someone familiar with chan_phone here? |
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| 22:55.39 | Strom_C | happy catsex! I mean new year! |
| 22:56.26 | SarahEmm | ... |
| 22:56.28 | SarahEmm | hihi! |
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| 22:58.15 | [hC] | Anyone here know where i should start poking around to get asterisk working on an embedded system like a soekris? |
| 22:58.42 | [hC] | Guess the wiki has some info... |
| 22:58.43 | [hC] | :) |
| 22:58.50 | RoyK | http://www.fred.net/tds/noodles/noodle.html |
| 22:59.18 | RoyK | [hC]: there was an 'asterisk embedded' project some time back |
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| 23:02.46 | [hC] | Im looking for something powerful enough to run a small office with an x100p or tdm400p sized card that allows more than one fxo port. im trying to eliminate moving parts (fans, hard drives) in my client installs |
| 23:03.13 | [hC] | ive read some reviews on asterisk on the soekris net4801 and it seems a little sketchy |
| 23:03.20 | tzanger | embedded asterisk really isn't all that strange |
| 23:03.56 | RoyK | no... |
| 23:04.02 | RoyK | just compile asterisk for ulibc |
| 23:04.05 | [hC] | I would try it out on gumstix, except i need at least one fxo port. |
| 23:04.10 | tzanger | [hC]: via epia may do it if you're not going hog-wild with options, use hw echo cans and ulaw. :-) |
| 23:04.31 | tzanger | [hC]: yes, that's embedded |
| 23:04.43 | tzanger | my embedded asterisk is on Blackfin BF533 |
| 23:04.46 | RoyK | [hC]: how large a system? |
| 23:04.56 | [hC] | currently i do ulaw to the phones, and then either g729 or speex (still undecided) to a master * box for routing, rather than putting pri onsite per client |
| 23:05.04 | tzanger | I need to look at it a little more though, Asterisk does run on uClinux and uClibc |
| 23:05.07 | tzanger | but still |
| 23:05.09 | [hC] | RoyK: 15-40 phones usually. |
| 23:05.20 | tzanger | [hC]: you won't get away with much if you're using g729... that's quite processor intense |
| 23:05.27 | RoyK | [hC]: i mean what sort of 'embedded' hardware? |
| 23:05.30 | [hC] | tzanger: yeah.. |
| 23:05.53 | tzanger | I was going ot use OMAP and do all the echocan and whatnot on the DSP side but those chips are soooooooooooo expensive |
| 23:06.11 | tzanger | TI has some other chips that are more suited for VOIP but I have a BF533 eval board so that's what I'm running with |
| 23:06.11 | [hC] | RoyK: I havent decided. Right now i put dell pc's onsite for clients, but im trying to eliminate the moving parts and scale it down, so that I can mount it on telco boards and not have to worry about fans dying |
| 23:06.37 | RoyK | ok |
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| 23:06.53 | [hC] | obviously I could run g729 to the phones themselves as well, and avoid the transcode, but people occasionally complain that g729 sounds too 'cell phone'y |
| 23:06.58 | tzanger | it's geared more toward video but that just means lots of power for audio :-) |
| 23:07.17 | tzanger | [hC]: if your call is coming in g729 having ulaw to the phone ain't gonna help anything |
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| 23:07.24 | saftsack | hi |
| 23:07.26 | JunK-Y | just as curiosity, which soft phones u guys using? |
| 23:07.39 | [hC] | tzanger: right which is why i was considering doing g729 to the phones as well |
| 23:07.48 | [hC] | tzanger: all calls go in and out over IAX |
| 23:07.50 | tetsuzan | X PRO |
| 23:07.50 | tetsuzan | :) |
| 23:07.54 | [hC] | tzanger: not PRI or anything. |
| 23:07.54 | saftsack | is it possible to install 4 hfc singleportcards and a 4 port fxs wildcard without getting an echo? |
| 23:08.11 | RoyK | saftsack: it's possible to try..... |
| 23:08.23 | saftsack | RoyK, do you have experiences with such a setup? |
| 23:08.34 | RoyK | saftsack: but I beleive perhaps getting a quad bri from junghanns.net might be a little bit better.... |
| 23:09.01 | RoyK | the hfc pci cards you get for EUR 10 generates a hell of a lot of interrupts |
| 23:09.46 | tzanger | [hC]: still, if you have g729 in the path your call quality won't ever be much better than g729 |
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| 23:10.31 | saftsack | RoyK, i have a 4 port beronet card in another pc but it is very expensive |
| 23:10.32 | tzanger | heh |
| 23:10.49 | [hC] | tzanger: right... sorry i thought you were referring to the transcoding power. I was ALSO contemplating removing g729 altogether (right now i am testing ulaw to the phones and speex to the IAX peer) to see if i can gain some quality and not sacrifice as much bandiwdth as ulaw wants. |
| 23:10.54 | tzanger | "you don't need to be a millionaire to do nothing... look at my cousin... he's broke and he don't do shit" :-) |
| 23:10.57 | saftsack | yes i know that there a a lot of irq issues but maybe someone has some experiences |
| 23:11.26 | tzanger | [hC]: I like gsm quite a bit |
| 23:11.28 | tzanger | no complaints |
| 23:11.32 | tzanger | g729 and ilbc get complaints |
| 23:12.16 | [hC] | in my tests so far gsm has sounded the worst,... |
| 23:12.43 | tzanger | :-) It's amazing how everyone has differing opinions on the codec |
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| 23:12.50 | tzanger | IIRC ManxPower *hates* gsm |
| 23:13.04 | mrdigital | is anyone here good with photoshop? |
| 23:13.25 | Strom_C | hi again |
| 23:13.42 | tzanger | definitely not me |
| 23:13.48 | [hC] | hmm. the epia boards look ok |
| 23:13.51 | tzanger | I couldn't photoshop my way out of a paper bag |
| 23:15.10 | Strom_C | now this is odd - ztcfg complains that nothing is right with my FXO interfaces on my TDM400P |
| 23:15.21 | tzanger | Strom_C: eh? |
| 23:16.22 | Strom_C | I've got a quad-span T1 card on channels 1-96 and then a TDM400P with two FXO ports for failover in case the PRI goes down. ztcfg configures all 98 channels, but ZT_CHANCONFIG fails with "invalid argument" for 97 and 98 |
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| 23:17.08 | *** topic/#asterisk is Asterisk 1.2.1 has been released! -//- http://www.asterisk.org |
| 23:17.36 | saftsack | it is just possible to put one telephone on each fxs module, right? |
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| 23:18.09 | *** topic/#asterisk is Asterisk 1.2.1 has been released! -//- http://www.asterisk.org |
| 23:18.15 | tzanger | pastebin your dmesg output please |
| 23:18.19 | Strom_C | saftsack, you can put more than one phone, but they share the same extnsion and whatnot |
| 23:18.22 | Strom_C | tzanger, ok |
| 23:18.55 | Strom_C | actually, let me reboot and get a fresh dmesg since i've been screwing with this a while |
| 23:20.40 | saftsack | Strom_C, can i telephone with both telephones in the same time? |
| 23:22.15 | Strom_C | no, saftsack, they're the same line |
| 23:22.25 | Strom_C | unless you want both to talk to the same person at the same time |
| 23:23.32 | saftsack | ok |
| 23:23.39 | saftsack | got it thank you :) |
| 23:23.49 | saftsack | but faxin works without problems on fxs cards? |
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| 23:25.23 | brockj49464 | dumb question here as I think I know the answer, does asterisk support the Internet Phone Jack card? It seems like they were trying to and have stopped. I assume the same with voice modems? |
| 23:25.34 | SarahEmm | 'faxing' and 'without problems' don't belong in the same phrase :) |
| 23:27.07 | Strom_C | tzanger: http://pastebin.com/486519 |
| 23:29.00 | tzanger | Strom_C: oh that's easy |
| 23:29.09 | tzanger | you have a TE4xx, but you did not load the wctdm driver |
| 23:30.00 | Strom_C | I did load the wctdm driver |
| 23:30.07 | tzanger | I don't see that |
| 23:30.26 | Strom_C | well then modprobe must be fucked, because I quite definitely typed "modprobe wctdm" :) |
| 23:30.59 | RoyK | Strom_C: check dmesg |
| 23:31.25 | tzanger | RoyK: I'm looking at his dmesg |
| 23:31.37 | RoyK | perhaps there's a small dæmon in your OS that just unloads modules for fun :) |
| 23:32.23 | SarahEmm | lol |
| 23:32.41 | mrdigital | SarahEmm: hows ur new years |
| 23:33.33 | SarahEmm | excellent :) |
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| 23:33.54 | mrdigital | get drunk and partyed? |
| 23:33.57 | SarahEmm | spent newyears with my gf, been working so far today.. off at 2300 |
| 23:34.07 | mrdigital | GF? |
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| 23:35.06 | Strom_C | tzanger, I quite definitely have the wctdm module loaded now and ztcfg still fails |
| 23:35.15 | tzanger | Strom_C: show me |
| 23:35.20 | tzanger | do this: |
| 23:35.25 | SarahEmm | mrdigital: girlfriend. and i don't drink. :) |
| 23:35.25 | tzanger | rmmod wctdm wct4xxp zaptel |
| 23:35.26 | tzanger | dmesg -c |
| 23:35.38 | tzanger | then modprobe wct4xxp and modprobe wctdm and dmesg -c |
| 23:35.46 | tzanger | pastebin the second one |
| 23:36.44 | Strom_C | when I do the rmmod, it claims wctdm isn't in /proc/modules |
| 23:37.03 | tzanger | Strom_C: that tells me that wctdm did NOT load |
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| 23:37.12 | tzanger | but yes, continue with the plan |
| 23:37.48 | Strom_C | http://pastebin.com/486532 |
| 23:37.55 | Strom_C | modprobe showed wctdm as being loaded |
| 23:37.59 | Strom_C | er |
| 23:38.00 | Strom_C | lsmod |
| 23:38.05 | Strom_C | not modprobe :) |
| 23:38.55 | tzanger | ex... ex...excuseme... I .. I believe... believe you have my ... my stapler..? |
| 23:40.04 | Strom_C | sorry, I sent you the wrong dmesg |
| 23:40.21 | Strom_C | http://pastebin.com/48653 is after modprobe wct4xxp and then wctdm |
| 23:40.33 | Strom_C | http://pastebin.com/486533 |
| 23:40.34 | Strom_C | dammit |
| 23:41.33 | tzanger | hmm okay I see it load there |
| 23:41.37 | tzanger | and lsmod shows it there? |
| 23:42.44 | tzanger | what's ztcfg -v say? |
| 23:43.47 | Strom_C | ...now it works |
| 23:43.52 | Strom_C | what the hell :/ |
| 23:44.21 | tzanger | well the rmmod wctdm saying wctdm wasn't loaded means it wasn't there :-) |
| 23:44.44 | Strom_C | but lsmod showed it as being loaded |
| 23:45.26 | RoyK | seems your kernel is fscked :) |
| 23:47.22 | Nugget | Linux is poo. |
| 23:48.39 | brockj49464 | mrdigital: did you get voiceone working? |
| 23:49.49 | A500mg | hello all |
| 23:50.08 | A500mg | i have a problem :) |
| 23:50.20 | A500mg | i've an x100p clone |
| 23:50.45 | A500mg | since 3 months, all works good |
| 23:50.54 | A500mg | (i'm french, sorry for my english) |
| 23:51.18 | A500mg | but after a reinstall of debian, and asterisk |
| 23:51.33 | A500mg | i've a terrible echo when i use le zap channel |
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| 23:51.45 | A500mg | i hear my voice when i speak |
| 23:52.50 | A500mg | i ve try to modify zapata.conf, with many options, but nothing, always this "voice return" |
| 23:53.10 | A500mg | i've reinstall asterisk, zaptel, etc... |
| 23:53.46 | A500mg | and the sound quality is bad, with parazites... |
| 23:54.24 | RoyK | Nugget: ? |
| 23:54.37 | A500mg | can the x100p be defective? |
| 23:55.09 | riddlebox | I am using the WRT54G linksys router, I can turn QoS on, should I do it by ports on the router, or by specific ports like 5060? |
| 23:55.32 | SarahEmm | A500mg: it worked without echo, *then* started echoing |
| 23:55.33 | SarahEmm | ? |
| 23:57.58 | A500mg | mmmh |
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| 23:58.24 | SarahEmm | what changed? |
| 23:58.32 | A500mg | the problem |
| 23:58.41 | A500mg | (one moment i traduce :) ) |
| 23:59.09 | A500mg | I rather do not know if I can call that a "echo", a return of voice |
| 23:59.32 | SarahEmm | err.. right... |
| 23:59.45 | slappingt | ne1 have time to help me with a networking question |
| 23:59.49 | SarahEmm | but what changed when the echo started? upgrade of asterisk? new card added to the box? phone service change? |
| 23:59.49 | A500mg | The problem appeared after a reinstalment identical to the preceding one, with the same configurations |
| 23:59.50 | SarahEmm | sure slappingt. |