| 00:05.17 | *** join/#asterisk postel (n=jk@area41.OSPF.netmonks.net) |
| 00:05.57 | *** join/#asterisk YaroMan (i=YaroMan@cpe-204-210-153-209.hvc.res.rr.com) |
| 00:07.29 | *** part/#asterisk YaroMan (i=YaroMan@cpe-204-210-153-209.hvc.res.rr.com) |
| 00:07.43 | *** join/#asterisk YaroMan (i=YaroMan@cpe-204-210-153-209.hvc.res.rr.com) |
| 00:07.50 | YaroMan | Hi |
| 00:07.59 | YaroMan | i need some help with asterisk! |
| 00:08.19 | mogorman | heh |
| 00:08.21 | mogorman | you and the world |
| 00:08.22 | *** part/#asterisk eKo1 (n=bernd@63.245.57.70) |
| 00:08.37 | YaroMan | I installed a server at datacenter with Asterisk @ Home 2.2 |
| 00:08.49 | YaroMan | but my SIP phone cant conect to server |
| 00:08.53 | YaroMan | what should I do |
| 00:08.54 | *** join/#asterisk kram (n=mark@gateway.digium.com) |
| 00:08.59 | YaroMan | my ping is 4 MS to datacenter |
| 00:09.01 | *** join/#asterisk monachoi (n=bonvoyag@cpe-24-174-162-34.satx.res.rr.com) |
| 00:09.05 | mogorman | uninstall asterisk@home |
| 00:09.10 | *** mode/#asterisk [+o kram] by ChanServ |
| 00:09.22 | YaroMan | why should I uninstall it? |
| 00:09.39 | mogorman | becuase its horrid |
| 00:09.40 | bweschke | hey kram! how's paris? |
| 00:09.57 | YaroMan | maby i need to setup some special dns settings for it? |
| 00:10.06 | mogorman | probably not |
| 00:10.07 | trixter | woo just got my free stuff for the sacramento asterisk users group -- for contest prizes.. 5 handytone 286s 2 gxp2000s and a tdm410p. hopefully that is incentive enough for people to actually compete :) |
| 00:10.10 | kram | it's okay |
| 00:10.13 | kram | i'm pretty tired though |
| 00:10.17 | mogorman | marko! |
| 00:10.20 | mogorman | you back? |
| 00:10.21 | trixter | thanks to digium and thevoipconnection.com |
| 00:10.27 | kram | i get back jan 2 |
| 00:10.46 | mogorman | ahh lame |
| 00:10.48 | bweschke | u over on biz or pleasure? |
| 00:10.48 | mogorman | ^_^ |
| 00:10.59 | mogorman | whats the difference bweschke |
| 00:11.24 | bweschke | mogorman: I would say sleep, but I know you all better than that. :) |
| 00:11.48 | mogorman | heh i have sleep in a can |
| 00:11.51 | *** join/#asterisk SIPposed (i=Spaceb@h88n1fls309o838.telia.com) |
| 00:12.07 | bweschke | i'm sure u do. |
| 00:12.39 | *** join/#asterisk ryan (n=ryan@londonderry-cuda2-68-171-162-161.lndnnh.adelphia.net) |
| 00:13.10 | SIPposed | Allow me to be the dumb and stupid one for some minutes, I have my reasons. has anyone had success making Asterisk work on Windows 2003 server? |
| 00:13.19 | tzanger | merry christmas, happy new year and all that, kram |
| 00:13.39 | bweschke | SIPposed: about as much success as driving the reverse direction on a state highway |
| 00:13.47 | SIPposed | hhehe |
| 00:13.54 | bweschke | there is a port for Cygwin, but it's not recommended for production I think |
| 00:14.18 | SIPposed | well |
| 00:14.24 | SIPposed | I am running it |
| 00:14.41 | bweschke | congrats. |
| 00:14.44 | meredydd | tzanger: hallo. |
| 00:14.55 | tzanger | meredydd: gah! You're invading my channels again! |
| 00:14.57 | meredydd | tzanger: Would you perchance be the same guy from #vexi? |
| 00:14.58 | SIPposed | but I think my NAT is catching it before it passes the proxy |
| 00:14.59 | meredydd | :D |
| 00:15.06 | SIPposed | hmm |
| 00:15.17 | tzanger | what's up what's new |
| 00:15.32 | meredydd | well, I'm getting into IP telephony, as you may have gathered :) |
| 00:15.58 | meredydd | what are you doing these days? |
| 00:16.01 | tzanger | :-) I've been here for about 2.5 years. long enough that the regulars /ignore me now |
| 00:16.14 | SIPposed | :P |
| 00:16.29 | SIPposed | not after just 5 mins hehe |
| 00:16.30 | _Sam-- | western digital sata drives ok? |
| 00:16.34 | *** join/#asterisk Ateboy (n=ugob@modemcable002.152-81-70.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 00:17.08 | tzanger | I like WD |
| 00:17.16 | tzanger | hell I get by with maxtor, WD have never done me wrong |
| 00:17.31 | _Sam-- | ive had a bunch of maxtors go on me in the past year |
| 00:17.42 | _Sam-- | i was leaning towards seagate w/5yr warr. |
| 00:17.45 | YaroMan | Help!!! "sip.broadvoice.com:5060 8458671927@s 120 Request Sent" |
| 00:17.52 | tzanger | yeah seagate is always nice |
| 00:17.52 | YaroMan | cant go no where |
| 00:17.55 | meredydd | tzanger: Cool. In that case, you might actually be able to answer my question :P |
| 00:17.57 | Ateboy | Hi, little question about call waiting and asterisk |
| 00:18.10 | SIPposed | tzanger, do you know of anyones in here, who has supposedly experiemnted with any winblows SIP proxies? like the Asterix Cygwin edition? |
| 00:18.11 | tzanger | meredydd: quite possibly, unless it has to do with SIP, I've avoided that particular protocol |
| 00:18.19 | meredydd | ah, bugger. |
| 00:18.22 | tzanger | SIPposed: no... I avoid SIP |
| 00:18.30 | SIPposed | you do? |
| 00:18.34 | meredydd | Yeah. I'm beginning to understand why. |
| 00:18.39 | SIPposed | heard it was the lastest shit |
| 00:18.47 | meredydd | If this continues, it looks like I'm about to have to roll my own implementation. |
| 00:18.54 | SIPposed | maybe it is just shit? =P hehe |
| 00:19.00 | meredydd | as there are NO decent libraries for sip+voip |
| 00:19.03 | tzanger | :-) |
| 00:19.06 | tzanger | actually there are |
| 00:19.08 | Ateboy | If I use my pstn line that features a call waiting option, and connect it to a fxo port, will * ever know if someone calls while I'm on the phone? |
| 00:19.16 | tzanger | opal is there, there is also another I can't for the life of me remember |
| 00:19.19 | meredydd | SIPposed: It's hideously complicated, the protocol stack makes your ears bleed, and debugging is a pain. |
| 00:19.20 | tzanger | there are some stinkers though |
| 00:19.41 | SIPposed | yes meredydd, I have figured that part out |
| 00:20.01 | meredydd | I mean... |
| 00:20.14 | meredydd | what kind of brain-dead protocol sends its control signals as UDP?? |
| 00:20.24 | file | SIP can send it via TCP |
| 00:20.31 | SIPposed | well |
| 00:20.32 | meredydd | (sometimes. Other people use TCP. So, guess what? You have to implement it both ways!) |
| 00:20.46 | meredydd | file: Yep. That makes things even worse. |
| 00:21.34 | SIPposed | I got this nice IP adaptr from my telecompany, selected the biggest and most expensive one, in the hopes, taht it would work more easily. But I were wrong |
| 00:21.41 | meredydd | tzanger: I am dangerously close to proposing marriage to you. |
| 00:21.42 | tzanger | no SIP sends everything in english... that was the most braindead decision |
| 00:21.52 | SIPposed | of cause it is locked up, so I have no access to the inside |
| 00:21.57 | tzanger | the only thing they could have done to make it worse was to encapsulate the RTP in XML |
| 00:22.03 | meredydd | tzanger: Heh. I actually like that. It gives you a cat in hell's chance of understanding what's going on |
| 00:22.06 | tzanger | meredydd: I am kind of lonely |
| 00:22.15 | tzanger | meredydd: yeah but fuck is it a pain |
| 00:22.26 | tzanger | let's ENCODE all the data into english, transport it, and then DECODE it again |
| 00:22.27 | tzanger | bleh |
| 00:22.29 | meredydd | tzanger: See my previous comments :) |
| 00:22.42 | tzanger | >-) |
| 00:22.44 | tzanger | er :-) |
| 00:22.57 | *** join/#asterisk J4k3 (i=j4k3@dhcp-12-197-128-55.intrastar.net) |
| 00:23.00 | Ateboy | anyone has a clue or a link to help me about * and call-waiting? |
| 00:23.02 | SIPposed | I have written SMTP, HTML1.1, XML, even WebDAV parsers, I am NOT going to try on SIP too |
| 00:23.19 | meredydd | SIPposed: Oh, well, there's osip for that. |
| 00:23.31 | tzanger | SIPposed: well you have all the ingredients for a hell of a SIP parser |
| 00:23.32 | SIPposed | osip for what? |
| 00:23.40 | meredydd | SIP parser/transaction manager. |
| 00:23.44 | tzanger | lord knows it'd probably implment all of the stack... something nobody's done to date :-) |
| 00:23.46 | meredydd | But then you have to build the session manager on top of that |
| 00:23.49 | SIPposed | allright |
| 00:23.55 | SIPposed | hmmm |
| 00:24.04 | meredydd | and then you need to grab an RTP lib, and use that |
| 00:24.17 | meredydd | and stitch it together with the codec libs, which seem to be only available separately... |
| 00:24.23 | SIPposed | to accomodate the "secret" interests of my telecom |
| 00:24.40 | meredydd | (I just wish the world would use (open)h323. Life would be nice again.) |
| 00:24.44 | tzanger | eep |
| 00:25.04 | _DAW | Ateboy: You still using the SPA-3000? |
| 00:25.09 | tzanger | oh323 is only better than SIP because it tries to encapsulate telecom standards into internet formats |
| 00:25.15 | tzanger | IAX2 baby... finish off that protocol and you have a winner IMO |
| 00:25.23 | Ateboy | yes |
| 00:25.37 | meredydd | tzanger: Okay, fine. As long as there are good libraries, I don't care. |
| 00:25.44 | Ateboy | _DAW: I found a thread on the mailing list... reading |
| 00:25.48 | SIPposed | well, I need a hint: IF the adapter is aware, of the proxy on my gateway, is it supposed to contact my isp directly on port 5060? |
| 00:25.58 | _DAW | the spa handles the call waiting |
| 00:26.04 | tzanger | meredydd: well.. the protocol's not quite there so the library isn't quite there, and you can only talk to * and PA1688 phones |
| 00:26.18 | meredydd | But I want to do voice plumbing. I do NOT want to have to implement most of the damn protocol stack before I can bridge between two systems. |
| 00:26.33 | tzanger | yeah |
| 00:26.37 | tzanger | just use netcat then :-p |
| 00:26.58 | meredydd | tzanger: Oh, that it were so simple. |
| 00:27.10 | SIPposed | well, thing is, that I thought being smart, invested in IP telephone, instead of the regular one |
| 00:27.36 | *** join/#asterisk kazalt (i=kazalt@Quebec-HSE-ppp220225.qc.sympatico.ca) |
| 00:28.07 | tzanger | hahaha |
| 00:28.08 | tzanger | "While I'm all for porn and violence, let's not pretend that it somehow builds character and prepares you for life" |
| 00:28.16 | SIPposed | and it worked well, when only the modem was connected. The telecom pretty much pulled my nose "Sorry lad, our systems only allow us to give you one public IP" |
| 00:28.16 | sansan | hummm, turned off acpi, and it doesn't panic when loading zaptel, just freeze :) |
| 00:28.26 | tzanger | sansan: ugh |
| 00:28.27 | Ateboy | _DAW: example, If I welcome people with a greeting like "for john, press 20, for johnny, press 21, for ateboy, press 22". Someone calls in, it hits 22, so ateboy is talking with someone over the pstn line. What would happen if another person calls on te PSTN line? |
| 00:28.35 | tzanger | sounds like some kind of nasty PCI IRQ routing issue |
| 00:28.57 | *** join/#asterisk zu (n=zu@14-pool1.ras14.floca.alerondial.net) |
| 00:29.04 | tzanger | dammit I downloaded hitch but it's on polish |
| 00:29.13 | tzanger | and other than a few cuss words I don't know polish |
| 00:29.23 | zu | lol |
| 00:29.32 | SIPposed | the movie? |
| 00:29.44 | sansan | now, it just says, "zaptel: no version for "struct_module" found: kernel tainted.", before freezing |
| 00:29.59 | tzanger | sansan: get a NORMAL kernel and a NORMAL zaptel build |
| 00:30.18 | meredydd | tzanger: i liked that movie (and I'm not afraid to admit it) |
| 00:30.24 | sansan | tzanger, only the kernel is diferent, zaptel came from asterisk.org |
| 00:30.37 | tzanger | sansan: well get yourself a normal kenrel |
| 00:30.51 | tzanger | and don't use 1000Hz timer, it's useless for * and mucks up zaptel anyway |
| 00:31.10 | tzanger | meredydd: it was recommended to me but again... I can't understand Polish so I'm back to square one |
| 00:31.15 | sansan | i'm afraid, it cause mess on centos, but ok i'll try it |
| 00:31.46 | zu | tzanger: umm asterisk runs just fine on centos 4x+ |
| 00:31.53 | tzanger | zu: then help this guy out |
| 00:32.07 | zu | ok |
| 00:32.14 | SIPposed | tzanger: Just a simple yes or no. My firewal is reporting my SIP adapter to connect directly to sip.telecompany.com:5060 ..not myproxy:5060 ..is there anything wrong with this? |
| 00:32.16 | sansan | redhat stuff (centos based on RHEL), can cause incompatibilities |
| 00:32.25 | zu | sansan: have you done a yum -y update |
| 00:32.37 | sansan | zu, you have have zaptel running on centos 4.2? |
| 00:32.41 | tzanger | SIPposed: I honestly have no idea... I avoid SIP for this exact reason |
| 00:32.41 | zu | yes |
| 00:32.46 | sansan | zu, yes centos 4.2 fully updated |
| 00:32.50 | Corydon-w | sansan: the other possibility is that you have a hardware failure of some sort... like bad memory or an overheating processor (or motherboard) |
| 00:32.58 | zu | sansan what version of zaptel |
| 00:33.04 | SIPposed | anyone else who can answer this question? |
| 00:33.10 | sansan | zu, i had kernel panic when modprobinf zaptel, turned off acpi, and now it just freezes |
| 00:33.22 | Corydon-w | Freezes for zaptel are invariably caused by bad hardware |
| 00:33.29 | sansan | zu, i tried 1.2 from svn, and the release tarball 1.2.1 |
| 00:33.40 | zu | sansan what zaptel device are you using? |
| 00:33.42 | sansan | all the system freezes |
| 00:33.53 | sansan | a tdm11b card |
| 00:33.54 | Corydon-w | sansan: how new is the system? |
| 00:34.03 | sansan | and a zaphfc too |
| 00:34.09 | zu | try pci=noacpi on the kernel line |
| 00:34.39 | sansan | well, amd2000 with asus mobo, it worked fine before with asterisk and the tdm400 p card |
| 00:34.45 | sansan | k |
| 00:35.11 | Corydon-w | sansan: have you done anything that stress tests the system, like building a kernel (or building gcc)? |
| 00:35.29 | benjk | SIPposed: if you use SIP, either use public IP addresses (not NAT) or build a tunnel |
| 00:35.32 | *** join/#asterisk Ariel_ (n=Ariel@dsl-20-177.cofs.net) |
| 00:35.38 | zu | sounds to me like a possible irq problem also check cat /proc/interupts |
| 00:35.45 | Corydon-w | Without one of those activities, I'm not impressed by claims of "it was working fine" |
| 00:35.56 | zu | disable all the serial/parralell/usb ports |
| 00:36.35 | zu | dude a successful emerge is more than a test for any gentoo system ;) |
| 00:37.27 | Ateboy | sansan: is the * box connected to a good UPS? |
| 00:37.47 | sansan | Corydon-w, i was running * and zaptel 1.0 before |
| 00:38.01 | sansan | Ateboy, yes |
| 00:38.34 | Corydon-w | sansan: can you still load the zaptel 1.0 drivers? |
| 00:38.37 | *** part/#asterisk jake1932 (n=jake1932@pool-68-236-10-151.phil.east.verizon.net) |
| 00:39.08 | sansan | oh wait! i see some IRQ routing conflicts on messages :) |
| 00:39.10 | zu | asterisk 1.2.1 with my patch to fix reinvite issues from 1.2x cvs is now working just fine for high latency sattellite connections :) |
| 00:39.56 | zu | I tested it on a 1000ms+ connection |
| 00:40.26 | sansan | you can simulate a high latency with the firewall |
| 00:40.35 | sansan | well with ipfw on freebsd at least :) |
| 00:40.44 | sansan | packet loss and everything |
| 00:40.50 | zu | sansan you cant because sat connections break rfcs |
| 00:41.04 | sansan | ah k |
| 00:41.19 | *** part/#asterisk Primer (n=vi@sh.nu) |
| 00:41.20 | zu | even with tcp packets they send acks before they even have the packet :/ |
| 00:41.28 | sansan | liars |
| 00:41.41 | sansan | just like hard drives |
| 00:42.02 | Ateboy | What protocol should I use if I need to do this: phone -> firewall (nat) -> internet -> firewall(nat) -> * ? |
| 00:42.12 | zu | iax |
| 00:42.31 | zu | its built with nat issues in mind |
| 00:42.34 | Ateboy | SIP won't do it? |
| 00:42.35 | Ateboy | ok |
| 00:42.43 | zu | yea it will but its a pain in the ass |
| 00:43.06 | Ateboy | ok, 'cause I thoulght I could use a sipura 841 for that purpose, but doesn't seem to support iax |
| 00:43.11 | zu | you need to forward 5060, 10000-20000 ports + set a externip= in ast |
| 00:43.24 | Ateboy | zu : done that |
| 00:43.34 | zu | and use a stun server |
| 00:44.00 | distortion | and it still doesnt work w/some routers/firewalls :) |
| 00:44.05 | zu | yup |
| 00:44.27 | zu | mostly you calls will proccess but there will be RTP issues |
| 00:44.34 | zu | then no audio :/ |
| 00:44.48 | Ateboy | distortion/zu : m0n0wall (freebsd) on both sides, for what I've tested |
| 00:44.51 | benjk | Ateboy: build a tunnel |
| 00:44.56 | zu | use sip debug ip address and rtp debug ip address |
| 00:45.00 | *** join/#asterisk mtnbkr (n=mtnbkr@c-67-165-9-234.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) |
| 00:45.04 | Ateboy | practical there, but not everywhere |
| 00:45.20 | *** join/#asterisk nagl (n=nagl@vie-086-059-104-148.dsl.sil.at) |
| 00:45.22 | Ateboy | the device seems to not being able to register |
| 00:45.36 | zu | Im looking at getting one of the 941's. |
| 00:45.44 | Ateboy | 941s support iax? |
| 00:45.55 | *** join/#asterisk PBXtech (i=nik@71-38-252-47.slkc.qwest.net) |
| 00:45.57 | zu | Ateboy: Thats a sip problem port 5060 |
| 00:46.05 | benjk | Ateboy: if you have FreeBSD on both ends, use KAME to setup an IPsec tunnel |
| 00:46.24 | sansan | or the easier openvpn |
| 00:46.28 | zu | Ill buy a mac if I want ro use freebsd |
| 00:46.32 | zu | :P |
| 00:46.42 | Ateboy | benjk: I can build tunnels easily on m0n0wall... that is not exactly the point. |
| 00:46.53 | benjk | it is exactly the point |
| 00:47.00 | zu | get some cisco pix's |
| 00:47.12 | benjk | build a tunnel and you won't have any NAT traversal issues with SIP |
| 00:47.28 | PBXtech | is the chan_sccp stable enough for the 7971? |
| 00:47.38 | *** join/#asterisk asteriskgeeks (n=SIPdawg@pbxtech.com) |
| 00:47.38 | asteriskgeeks | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:47.54 | *** join/#asterisk tdonahue (n=tdonahue@208.51.101.201) |
| 00:47.56 | Ateboy | ok, if the financial resources can not permit the construction of a VPN tunnel? |
| 00:48.00 | *** join/#asterisk ManxPower (i=ewieling@6.sub-70-219-54.myvzw.com) |
| 00:48.07 | benjk | financial resources? |
| 00:48.21 | sansan | what's wrong with ipsec or openvpn? |
| 00:48.29 | sansan | financially :) |
| 00:48.31 | Ateboy | financial/time/whatever |
| 00:49.05 | benjk | SIP does require far more financial resources to be pursuaded to do double NAT |
| 00:49.15 | Ateboy | ok |
| 00:49.49 | *** part/#asterisk SIPposed (i=Spaceb@h88n1fls309o838.telia.com) |
| 00:49.50 | Ateboy | so my solution is to either get a phone that does IAX, build a VPN tunnel, or set an * on the other side? |
| 00:49.53 | benjk | so if you haven't got the "financial resources" to setup a tunnel, then you don't have the "financial resources" to use SIP in your environment either |
| 00:50.07 | benjk | yes |
| 00:50.18 | benjk | or an ATA that does IAX |
| 00:50.53 | benjk | the tunnel is probably the easiest and cheapest way since you already got a Sipura ATA |
| 00:51.12 | Ateboy | yes, I got a spa 3000 and a 841 phone |
| 00:51.31 | *** join/#asterisk ApEtc (i=apetc@ip68-3-225-51.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 00:51.40 | benjk | well, then to protect your investment into that equipment a tunnel would seem to be your best option |
| 00:52.23 | Ateboy | anyone has a recommendation for an ata that does IAX? |
| 00:52.34 | benjk | IAXy from Digium |
| 00:52.40 | Ateboy | ok |
| 00:53.01 | benjk | Atcomm also make IAX ATAs |
| 00:53.48 | Ateboy | I'll see what $ the person at the other end is willing to spend |
| 00:53.54 | *** join/#asterisk Sedorox (i=brandon@smartserv/cna/Sedorox) |
| 00:54.18 | benjk | what type of router is at the other end? |
| 00:54.34 | Ateboy | cheap netgear :( |
| 00:54.42 | Ateboy | rp614 I think |
| 00:54.53 | Ateboy | hence the reason of the need for $ |
| 00:54.54 | sansan | well to get openvpn working, you just need to port forward on one location |
| 00:55.03 | benjk | check if it supports IPsec. many SOHO routers not support at least 2 tunnels |
| 00:55.07 | sansan | on the other location, you set openvpn as client |
| 00:55.19 | benjk | oops |
| 00:55.21 | *** join/#asterisk wundaboy (n=asdf@c-67-164-107-68.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 00:55.29 | benjk | freudian lapsus |
| 00:55.47 | benjk | I meant many do now support it |
| 00:55.59 | Ateboy | yes, but this one is fairly old... |
| 00:56.33 | benjk | does it at least support IPsec passthrough? |
| 00:56.41 | Ateboy | sansan: were you talking to me, about openvpn? |
| 00:57.13 | sansan | Ateboy, openvpn is easy to set up |
| 00:57.20 | sansan | painless |
| 00:57.39 | benjk | if his router doesn't support IPsec, it wont support OpenVPN either |
| 00:57.43 | benjk | so this is moot |
| 00:57.55 | sansan | why not? |
| 00:58.05 | sansan | MTU problems? |
| 00:58.08 | sansan | change it |
| 00:58.36 | benjk | because its a SOHO router at the remote end and it belongs to a customer/client/friend whatever |
| 01:00.19 | ManxPower | I thought practically all cheap routers supported IPSec passthru these days. |
| 01:01.13 | benjk | Manx: he said the router was fairly old |
| 01:01.28 | Ateboy | wait... I'm discussing live with "the other side" :) |
| 01:01.44 | ManxPower | benjk, Ah. Anyone that can't afford a cheap Linksys router should not be on the internet. |
| 01:01.59 | benjk | Manx: :D |
| 01:02.01 | Ateboy | eheh, he's got a chep netgear router... |
| 01:02.16 | ManxPower | I SO much hate netgear. |
| 01:02.27 | Ateboy | that's ok |
| 01:02.30 | benjk | Ateboy: if it does IPsec passthrough, then you should be able to do it |
| 01:02.30 | ManxPower | Every single Netgear box we have bought in the past 5 years was crap. |
| 01:02.37 | *** join/#asterisk N9URK (n=icechat5@user-0ce2dhc.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 01:02.39 | ManxPower | On the other hand some people think they are better than sex. |
| 01:02.40 | Ateboy | ok, it works for many others... |
| 01:02.51 | ManxPower | I call those people "crazy". |
| 01:03.10 | benjk | I have had good experiences with Netgear and lots of trouble with Linksys |
| 01:03.47 | ManxPower | benjk, older Linksys boxes did have significant issues with SIP |
| 01:04.00 | benjk | not with SIP, with IPsec |
| 01:04.13 | ManxPower | benjk, Doing passthru? |
| 01:04.33 | benjk | whenever you set up a tunnel, they went stale after about two to three weeks |
| 01:04.41 | *** join/#asterisk scolsuckz (n=scolsuck@202.58.252.15) |
| 01:04.54 | benjk | you needed to power cycle them to reboot and it was ok for another 2-3 weeks |
| 01:05.19 | ManxPower | benjk, Ah. We don't use Linksys for VPN anymore because we could find no way to keep the machines from bypassing the VPN and going directly to the internet |
| 01:05.52 | benjk | if there had been a way to automate this so they'd reboot every Sunday night or something like that it would still have been sort of ok, but you had to actually pull the plug and back in |
| 01:06.04 | ManxPower | benjk, Also we only have ever tried NetGear SWITCHES |
| 01:06.19 | Ateboy | benjk: if id does ipsec passthrough, then you should be able to do it... : what and how? |
| 01:06.54 | Ateboy | I have a di-804HV at one of my clients'. Tried once to build an IPSec tunnel and failed, but I must retry... |
| 01:06.56 | benjk | Ateboy: you need to have some box behind the router to be the end point of your tunnel |
| 01:07.13 | benjk | even a Windows machine can do that |
| 01:07.16 | Ateboy | benjk yes, I know, but that is extra $ and another point of failure |
| 01:07.33 | Ateboy | I'd rather install a m0n0wall there as well |
| 01:07.51 | *** join/#asterisk N9URK (n=icechat5@user-0ce2dhc.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 01:08.11 | benjk | well, in that case its cheaper to buy a 50 USD Linksys router with support for 2 IPsec tunnels |
| 01:08.17 | Ateboy | yup |
| 01:08.25 | PBXtech | is the chan_sccp stable enough for the 7971? |
| 01:08.40 | Qwell | PBXtech: I use the one from berlios.de, it works great |
| 01:08.50 | Ateboy | but I just tought of something: we're both on cable modem (dhcp), can I build an IPSec tunnel considering that? |
| 01:09.17 | PBXtech | TY |
| 01:09.21 | benjk | does your friend/client have an old PC they don't need anymore? like a Pentium first generation (50MHz/75MHz) ? |
| 01:09.48 | Ateboy | I've done tunnels from dynamic -> static, and I must reset the tunenl if the dynamic ip changes, but what with 2 dynamic addresses? |
| 01:10.18 | benjk | the dynamic addresses can be dealt with by using some service like DynDNS.org |
| 01:10.20 | PBXtech | [Qwell]: are you missing any major features? |
| 01:10.31 | Ateboy | benjk: well, just forget this avenue... it is either a change in protocol, either we change his router |
| 01:10.37 | Qwell | PBXtech: not really |
| 01:10.42 | PBXtech | cool |
| 01:10.49 | Qwell | PBXtech: name some, I'll tell you if they're supported |
| 01:10.52 | Ateboy | benjk :we both have a dyndns account... |
| 01:11.01 | PBXtech | whats the diff in the 7970 and 7971? |
| 01:11.16 | benjk | Ateboy: in that case the dynamic addresses are dealt with |
| 01:11.17 | Ateboy | a DI804HV is 81$ CDN so that could do |
| 01:11.43 | Ateboy | benjk : ok |
| 01:11.55 | benjk | if he is happy to spend a little on a router that can be a VPN endpoint then that's a solution |
| 01:11.55 | Qwell | PBXtech: The 7971 is technically 7979G-GE |
| 01:12.01 | Qwell | PBXtech: which means gbit ethernet |
| 01:12.06 | Qwell | 7971g-ge |
| 01:12.11 | *** part/#asterisk Utah_Dave (n=boucha@0-1pool139-113.nas28.salt-lake-city1.ut.us.da.qwest.net) |
| 01:12.37 | Ateboy | benjk: ok, but I could get a Gnet ATA taht supports IAX for 59$CDN... |
| 01:12.39 | PBXtech | awe ok |
| 01:12.40 | benjk | otherwise, if he has got an old PC collecting dust, you could download Wolverine and turn it into a PIX compatible VPN firewall router |
| 01:13.01 | Ateboy | benjk: I'd rather work with m0n0wall, as I'm more familiar with it |
| 01:13.27 | benjk | fair enough |
| 01:13.59 | Ateboy | I'll see if I can return the 814, I think I do |
| 01:14.34 | benjk | Ateboy, sure you can use IAX but if he's got an SPA-841 he wants to use, then tunneling is a better option |
| 01:14.56 | ManxPower | Um, do you really need a tunnel? |
| 01:14.57 | benjk | also, you could run multiple SIP UAs on his end |
| 01:15.11 | benjk | Manx: NAT on both ends |
| 01:15.24 | Qwell | nat on both ends isn't too much of an issue |
| 01:15.25 | ManxPower | benjk, Um, double NAT works just fine with Asterisk. |
| 01:15.35 | ManxPower | I've done it many, many times before the Storm of Doom |
| 01:15.35 | Qwell | just gotta know what you're doing |
| 01:15.44 | benjk | well, it's a bad hack and doesn't always work |
| 01:16.08 | benjk | its not a solution, its a workaround that comes with compromises |
| 01:16.14 | mogorman | qwell! |
| 01:16.18 | benjk | a tunnel is a solution |
| 01:16.20 | Qwell | mog! |
| 01:16.21 | ManxPower | My asterisk server at home was behind nat and I used my SIPura in hotels, and conferences. |
| 01:16.33 | Qwell | benjk: a high overhead solution |
| 01:16.37 | ManxPower | Hell, I even used it when I was in madrid and that was double or tripple nat |
| 01:16.43 | swm_ | ~beat Qwell |
| 01:16.44 | jbot | ACTION beats Qwell with a large stick. |
| 01:16.47 | benjk | Qwell: not really |
| 01:16.59 | Qwell | udp>tcp>udp... |
| 01:16.59 | swm_ | ~beat everyone |
| 01:17.00 | jbot | ACTION beats everyone with a large stick. |
| 01:17.02 | Ateboy | manx: is it very hare to configure to make SIP work through nat? |
| 01:17.03 | Qwell | that's a bit of overhead |
| 01:17.09 | benjk | if you have just one or two SIP phones, it's negligible |
| 01:17.16 | ManxPower | Qwell, any decent Tunnel will use UDP or GRE |
| 01:17.21 | Qwell | ManxPower: oh |
| 01:17.31 | Qwell | I was assuming he was saying stunnel or something :p |
| 01:17.33 | ManxPower | Ateboy, not if you know what NAT really is and how SIP works. |
| 01:17.34 | Ateboy | I'd only have one or 2 tunnels |
| 01:17.54 | Ateboy | sorry, not tunnels, 2 phones |
| 01:18.04 | benjk | Ateboy: if you want a proper solution, a tunnel is what you want |
| 01:18.12 | benjk | anything else is duct tape |
| 01:18.12 | *** join/#asterisk Sedorox (i=brandon@smartserv/cna/Sedorox) |
| 01:18.15 | ManxPower | Now if you have some silly broadband connection with a dynamic IP address on each end, things get more complicated. But they would for a tunnnel too. |
| 01:18.37 | Qwell | dyndns |
| 01:18.50 | ManxPower | crappy DNS support in Asterisk |
| 01:18.58 | Ateboy | manx: the connexions are both cable modems woth dyn address.. but pretty stable (both the inet access + ip addresses) |
| 01:19.08 | sansan | is there a way to see for what kernel version was the zaptel module compiled? |
| 01:19.15 | Qwell | sansan: compiled, or installed? |
| 01:19.21 | ManxPower | Ateboy, Then configure the ports you want to use for audio in rtp.conf and on the SIPura. |
| 01:19.22 | sansan | compiled |
| 01:19.33 | benjk | Manx: as long as the routers work fine with DynDNS you don't have to worry about that |
| 01:19.34 | Qwell | sansan: modinfo |
| 01:19.42 | swm_ | dyndns? Isin't that a dynamic domain service that takes forever to update your information? |
| 01:19.50 | ManxPower | Then portforward 5060/UDP and the ports you set up for audio (UDP) (that's on the NAT for Asterisk) |
| 01:19.53 | Sedorox | Most cable companies... if you keep the router/router on... and it doesn't get reset often.. you end up keeping the same address.. as long as it can renew it |
| 01:19.58 | sansan | ah yes thanks Qwell |
| 01:20.25 | ManxPower | then set localnet= and externip= in sip.conf on Asterisk. put nat=yes in the peer's config section of sip.conf, tell the SIP devices to register |
| 01:20.27 | swm_ | Comcast cycles ip addresses every 5 to 6 days |
| 01:21.04 | Ateboy | my ISP is good for that, been on the same IP for ~6 months |
| 01:21.08 | ManxPower | Oh, disable NAT support in your SIP devices. |
| 01:21.44 | Ateboy | manx: done all that, except "tell the sip devices to register", except if that means to power up the phone... |
| 01:21.47 | ManxPower | and disable any SIP NAT stuff on the router if it does special stuff for SIP (like Ciscos do) |
| 01:22.08 | swm_ | I killed a nat yesterday... not much blood such a small bug :) |
| 01:22.10 | ManxPower | Ateboy, you should set the port range for audio on the SIP device too. |
| 01:22.17 | Qwell | swm_: gnat |
| 01:22.34 | Ateboy | manx: my firewall isn't doing anything with SIP... |
| 01:22.41 | ManxPower | Ateboy, most don't. |
| 01:22.47 | Qwell | ManxPower: got an easy one for you. Why does rtp use so many ports? Does each channel need a unique port for rtp? |
| 01:22.57 | ManxPower | but the one time I don't mention it someone will have a router that does. |
| 01:23.04 | Ateboy | manx : eheh ;) |
| 01:23.19 | benjk | Qwell: because the designers of SIP modeled a circuit switched telephone exchange |
| 01:23.20 | ManxPower | Qwell, each call uses 1 or 2 ports for RTP (I believe 2 ports( |
| 01:23.25 | Qwell | k |
| 01:23.37 | benjk | SIP is a circuit switched design on top of a packet switched transport |
| 01:23.54 | implicit | benjk, not true |
| 01:23.58 | ManxPower | I only portforwarded like 16384 - 16393 UDP. |
| 01:24.01 | benjk | it is true |
| 01:24.05 | implicit | nope |
| 01:24.08 | ManxPower | I'll never send more than 5 calls thru it |
| 01:24.11 | implicit | incorrect |
| 01:24.14 | benjk | the RTP ports represent the trunks |
| 01:24.22 | benjk | the SIP port represents the signaling path |
| 01:24.23 | Qwell | 10,000 ports seems extremely excessive, as the default |
| 01:24.34 | benjk | of a conventional telephone exchange |
| 01:24.36 | ManxPower | benjk, only if the endpoints of those trunks can magically move from location to location |
| 01:24.40 | ManxPower | Qwell, it is. |
| 01:24.58 | benjk | still the design philosophy is based on the idea of a circuit switched exchange |
| 01:25.04 | zu | Qwell: all 10000 ports transcoding :/ |
| 01:25.05 | ManxPower | Ateboy, oh canreinvite=no in sip.conf as well. |
| 01:25.07 | Ateboy | manx: I' ve got some "NAT Support Parameters" in the 841 config... and RTP parameters (rtp port min, rtp port max) |
| 01:25.18 | benjk | hence the thousands of dynamically assigned RTP ports |
| 01:25.20 | ManxPower | Ateboy, turn off the NAT support parameters |
| 01:25.20 | Ateboy | manx: done for canreinvite |
| 01:25.22 | Qwell | Ateboy: You want to set the rtp min/max ports |
| 01:25.32 | zu | Qwell with ser on a dual xeon you can do 100,000+ |
| 01:25.32 | Qwell | or will * handle that entirely? |
| 01:25.35 | ManxPower | I recommend using 16384 as your rtp port min. |
| 01:25.41 | Ateboy | they're 16384-16482 |
| 01:25.53 | ManxPower | and maybe 16393 for rtp port max |
| 01:25.56 | implicit | the SIP part of it is not modled after circuit switched networks at all, if anything it is derived to some extent from the design of ss7 where it is a packet switched design used for the control of the circuit switched network |
| 01:26.23 | Ateboy | all the nat support parameters are to no, except NAT keep alive intvl : 15 |
| 01:26.24 | implicit | if it was modeled after a circuit switched design you'd be looking at something like ccitt5 over IP :) |
| 01:26.26 | benjk | implicit: what part of RTP ports represent trunks do you not get? |
| 01:26.34 | implicit | benjk, you said SIP |
| 01:26.37 | implicit | don't be a fucking dumbass |
| 01:26.38 | ManxPower | Ateboy, that's fine. |
| 01:26.43 | benjk | SIP/RTP |
| 01:26.50 | implicit | <benjk>SIP is a circuit switched design on top of a packet switched transport |
| 01:26.51 | benjk | since SIP alone won't do you anything |
| 01:26.54 | ManxPower | I sould suggest you set the same port range in rtp.conf in /etc/asterisk |
| 01:26.58 | implicit | and RTP is not circuit switched at all |
| 01:27.00 | implicit | it goes point to point |
| 01:27.07 | implicit | in a SIP call |
| 01:27.11 | Ateboy | I was wondering why the ATA and ip phones are not sold supporting more than one protocol... |
| 01:27.34 | ManxPower | Ateboy, Flash memory is not cheap. |
| 01:27.34 | implicit | nothing about the design is circuit switched, IAX trunking on the other hand, is |
| 01:27.41 | benjk | the use of SIP and RTP for telephony is modeled after a circuit switched telephone exchange |
| 01:27.56 | robl^ | Ateboy: not *universally* true. some phones support multiple protocols |
| 01:28.06 | benjk | because it borrows that from H323, which is modeled after a circuit switched telephone exchange |
| 01:28.06 | ManxPower | I'll bet the SIP RFC has information on what it's modeled on. |
| 01:28.10 | implicit | benjk, the PSTN is not a strictly circuit switched network |
| 01:28.13 | zu | hmm, im thinking about converting all the audio to g729 to avoid the transcoding overhead |
| 01:28.19 | sansan | zu, do you have the file gcc-version.sh on your system? |
| 01:28.35 | implicit | all the signalling and control on the modern PSTN is done over a packet switched network |
| 01:28.35 | sansan | from the kernel sources |
| 01:28.38 | zu | its at the office and theres no external access there |
| 01:28.42 | implicit | and the trunks are the only things that are circuit switched |
| 01:28.46 | benjk | Manx: the SIP RFC doesn't say any such thing because SIP borrowed concepts from H323 |
| 01:28.59 | implicit | sure, the RTP acts like individual channels through what you were saying about ports |
| 01:29.01 | zu | rfc's plural |
| 01:29.06 | implicit | but they are not switched as virtual circuits |
| 01:29.18 | Ateboy | manx: I see... |
| 01:29.24 | implicit | they go point to point without caring about the underlying network structure at all |
| 01:29.28 | benjk | in thise case it would be singular as in original RFC |
| 01:29.43 | benjk | cause later ones wouldn't bother to mention any history/intro |
| 01:30.11 | Ateboy | manx: and then I must forward ports 16838-16482 to my * box ? |
| 01:30.17 | implicit | benjk, admit that you are wrong |
| 01:30.26 | implicit | benjk, admit it now, cause your ignorance is making us all sick |
| 01:30.38 | implicit | benjk, and your pride and refusal to admit your dumbassedness is even worse |
| 01:30.39 | zu | Internet-Drafts are are working documents and have no standards status. They are valid for six months, and may be updated, replaced or obsoleted at any time |
| 01:30.41 | benjk | implicit: the point is that the overall mechanism how all the parts work together are still following the general concept of a circuit switched exchange |
| 01:31.02 | benjk | which is a result of borrowing that from H323 |
| 01:31.07 | implicit | benjk, THEN SHOW ME AN EXAMPLE OF A SINGLE *VIRTUAL CIRCUIT* THAT YOU ARE DESCRIBING |
| 01:31.11 | implicit | even in h323 |
| 01:31.14 | implicit | it doesn't exist |
| 01:31.17 | mogorman | lol |
| 01:31.23 | zu | http://www1.cs.columbia.edu/sip/drafts.html is a good resource for sip rfc's |
| 01:31.25 | mogorman | darn |
| 01:31.32 | Qwell | mogorman: nope, you're just in time |
| 01:31.35 | mogorman | sweet |
| 01:31.37 | tzanger | damn I missed one too then |
| 01:31.39 | mogorman | both of yall suck |
| 01:31.43 | mogorman | i rule |
| 01:31.43 | implicit | mogorman, dont worry its still going on |
| 01:31.44 | tzanger | oh this zaptel thing again |
| 01:31.48 | mogorman | asterisk forever! |
| 01:31.52 | benjk | you are obviously as ignorant of TCP/IP design principles as the designers of both H323 and SIP |
| 01:31.53 | implicit | benjk is starting to realize his stupidity |
| 01:32.03 | mogorman | heh dont see that happening |
| 01:32.15 | mogorman | oh benjk i did get info on the lgpl thing |
| 01:32.17 | mogorman | your wrong |
| 01:32.23 | Qwell | PWNED |
| 01:32.24 | Qwell | :D |
| 01:32.28 | mogorman | and i will email whoever you want if you want facts checked |
| 01:32.35 | implicit | benjk, lol, no examples?, if you are using B2BUAs, sure you can do some virtual circuit switching |
| 01:32.47 | implicit | benjk, but hte protocol itself relies on NO circuit switched principals |
| 01:32.53 | zu | You are using a konqueror3.5 browser. MICE can only be used with IE 5.0, IE 6.0, Netscape 7, Opera or Mozilla, not IE 4.0, Netscape 4.x or earlier browser lmfao the computer science at colubia university suck so much it can handle konq |
| 01:32.54 | implicit | if anything it tries to completely eliminate them |
| 01:33.05 | zu | s/can/cant |
| 01:33.11 | zu | http://www.cs.columbia.edu/ |
| 01:33.37 | benjk | the point is that signaling and trunks are seen as separate channels that needed to be modeled separately |
| 01:33.48 | Ateboy | manx? |
| 01:33.54 | benjk | TCP/IP has layers for that |
| 01:34.08 | zu | yes but rtp is udp |
| 01:34.47 | benjk | so there is no reason to spread your data transmission out over multiple ports to keep them distinguishable from each other |
| 01:34.47 | ManxPower | Ateboy, Sorry, I was reading SIP and RTP RFCs |
| 01:34.54 | Ateboy | manx: lol |
| 01:34.55 | ManxPower | yes, you want to forward the range of ports to your asterisk box |
| 01:35.22 | zu | ManxPower: which one the link I posted? |
| 01:35.41 | ManxPower | zu, google is my friend. |
| 01:35.41 | Ateboy | manx: but why is rtp involved even if I set canreinvite = no? |
| 01:35.56 | ManxPower | Ateboy, You'll understand someday, grasshopper. |
| 01:36.03 | zu | Ateboy: that hase nothing to do with the rtp stream for the audio |
| 01:36.06 | *** join/#asterisk mmlj4 (n=looseduk@ip70-171-92-106.no.no.cox.net) |
| 01:36.10 | ManxPower | for now, just know that it is. |
| 01:36.19 | Ateboy | grasshopper? |
| 01:36.24 | mogorman | ahh /me has to become mog_home till later |
| 01:36.25 | mogorman | peace |
| 01:36.25 | *** part/#asterisk mogorman (n=mogorman@gateway.digium.com) |
| 01:36.44 | zu | reinvites are just saying hey you can connect directly to the device you are calling so it reinvites you to the end device |
| 01:37.30 | ManxPower | mmlj4, Satellite Internet SUCKS. |
| 01:37.44 | Ateboy | ok, but rtp is used even w/o end-device-to-end-device communication? |
| 01:37.52 | zu | http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~hgs/rtp/ < links to rtp information |
| 01:37.56 | Qwell | Ateboy: rtp is where the audio is |
| 01:38.00 | zu | yup |
| 01:38.05 | ManxPower | Ateboy, RTP is what your AUDIO goes over. |
| 01:38.14 | Qwell | so, technically, it'll still work without rtp |
| 01:38.18 | Qwell | but it'll be useless. |
| 01:38.39 | ManxPower | Qwell, SIMPLE, but I won't confuse the ussye. |
| 01:38.41 | Ateboy | ok, thanks... if I had forwarded UDP/10000-20000, I should disable that now, right? |
| 01:38.42 | Qwell | :P |
| 01:38.44 | ManxPower | issue, even |
| 01:38.56 | Qwell | Ateboy: just use the range you've set |
| 01:38.59 | ManxPower | Ateboy, you forward whatever you set in trp.conf on Asterisk. |
| 01:39.25 | zu | yup and with nat problems thats exactly what happends the phone will ring and if there is no rtp no audio :) |
| 01:39.25 | ManxPower | Ateboy, ..e.r.. rtp.conf |
| 01:39.31 | Ateboy | manx: done |
| 01:39.41 | Qwell | ManxPower: re asterisk-dev & ztdummy - well said |
| 01:40.28 | ManxPower | Ateboy, a FEW of the things I've told you to do are not technically required, but I recommend them |
| 01:40.33 | ManxPower | Qwell, thanks. |
| 01:40.48 | Ateboy | will * use the values for rtp in rtp.conf for both incoming + outgoing? |
| 01:41.14 | ManxPower | Ateboy, no. |
| 01:41.17 | zu | yea that and if you get a polycom phone get a good xml editor :) |
| 01:41.51 | Ateboy | ok |
| 01:41.56 | ManxPower | but I RECOMMEND setting the ports on rtp.conf to be the same as the min and max ports on the SIPura. |
| 01:43.02 | ManxPower | Ateboy, btw, Cisco routers that are set to give audio a higher priority usually expect audio to be on UDP ports (I don't recall if even or odd) starting at 16384 |
| 01:44.11 | ManxPower | It's a power of 2 so it's easy to remember. If you ever deploy QoS on your network using Cisco stuff you won't have to change any of your asterisks or phones |
| 01:44.50 | distortion | anyone use voicemail with g729 passthrough? |
| 01:46.56 | Qwell | distortion: you have you voicemail prompts recorded as g729? |
| 01:47.13 | Qwell | because unless you do, you aren't going to do passthrough |
| 01:47.20 | distortion | yes sir. |
| 01:47.57 | ManxPower | distortion, as long as you have everything in the same format, Asterisk should not have to transcode. |
| 01:48.02 | Qwell | I think you'll still need a license, since it has to write the files |
| 01:48.15 | distortion | here is the error i get: http://pastebin.ca/35106 lines: 252-255 |
| 01:48.17 | ManxPower | Qwell, Well one license at least. |
| 01:48.18 | *** join/#asterisk dcoulson (n=dcoulson@wilbur.geekcolony.net) |
| 01:48.18 | Qwell | and I don't know if g729 is a supported vm format |
| 01:48.32 | distortion | it seems like its allowed as a write format. |
| 01:49.12 | Qwell | it's recording the files as slin |
| 01:49.20 | ManxPower | distortion, Asterisk will ALWAYS prefer almost any other format over G729 |
| 01:49.43 | Qwell | IF it's supported, you'll need to be very explicit in voicemail.conf, about the format |
| 01:50.05 | distortion | yeah, i have format=g729 in voicemail.conf, and the sip.conf entry locked to g729 |
| 01:50.10 | Qwell | and since the format is a global option, it will be a very large issue, if one of your phones don't support g729 |
| 01:50.48 | Qwell | so, if you have zap users, forget it |
| 01:50.56 | ManxPower | distortion, ask on the mailing list, then file a bug. |
| 01:51.31 | distortion | Manx: ok, thought id check first to see if there was something foolish i was missing. |
| 01:51.37 | distortion | thanky |
| 01:51.45 | ManxPower | distortion, It could be, but I'm missing it too then. |
| 01:51.52 | Qwell | I have a feeling I know what the answer will be... |
| 01:52.00 | Qwell | "Just buy a few licenses" |
| 01:53.31 | distortion | I have a few licenses, the issue is more complicated... I am using g729 on the server as well, and g729 is broken on h323, all calls try to transcode to ulaw even if both endpoints are g729. |
| 01:53.41 | Qwell | neat |
| 01:55.06 | Qwell | ahh... |
| 01:55.13 | Qwell | distortion: I have a quick hack for you |
| 01:55.23 | Qwell | turn maxsilence off in voicemail.conf |
| 01:55.35 | zu | hmm I guess I am converting all the audio to g729 prompts on the sip only servers |
| 01:55.38 | Qwell | It needs SLIN for the silence detection |
| 01:56.15 | distortion | maxsilence=0 or maxsilence=off? |
| 01:56.19 | Qwell | 0 works |
| 01:56.40 | zu | Sooo If I have a sip only server and I buy 1 g729 license and convert all the audio to g729 on it im in like flint |
| 01:57.13 | Qwell | zu: except for the aforementioned (major) drawback |
| 01:57.24 | Qwell | If you have any clients that don't support g729, voicemail will be a problem |
| 01:57.34 | *** join/#asterisk zishanov (n=mail@d57-249-149.home.cgocable.net) |
| 01:57.39 | zu | yea and you know of any sip phones that dont do g729? |
| 01:57.59 | zu | This is for a app that I dont care about the voicemail |
| 01:58.08 | distortion | qwell: heh, i think that worked :D |
| 01:58.20 | [TK]D-Fender | zu : how many licenses do you have? |
| 01:58.33 | Qwell | distortion: I accept paypal "thank you"'s. :P |
| 01:58.52 | zu | [TK]D-Fender: I have lost count |
| 01:58.59 | distortion | hehe |
| 01:59.20 | zu | kram, wake up and fix the god dam g729 online ordering system |
| 01:59.32 | zu | lol |
| 01:59.32 | lunk | Qwell: fees yo fees, twenty five cent to connect |
| 01:59.57 | Qwell | zu: email the person in charge of that |
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| 02:00.07 | tengulre | hi,all |
| 02:00.40 | zu | Qwell: Why I have a iax connection to digium I can just dial there extension ;) |
| 02:00.47 | Qwell | zu: whatever works |
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| 02:10.08 | mrdigital | http://cgi.ebay.com/Asterisk-PBX-Installation-CD-WEB-GUI-Voice-Mail-SIP-CRM_W0QQitemZ5845649658QQcategoryZ11908QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| 02:10.22 | mrdigital | not mine i just found it |
| 02:11.11 | swm_ | I thought it's illegal to sell it? |
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| 02:11.18 | MGSsancho | lol |
| 02:11.21 | Qwell | sell open source? |
| 02:11.32 | swm_ | Yeah? You cant sell open source can you? |
| 02:11.40 | Qwell | so, how has RH made a business out of it? |
| 02:11.51 | swm_ | LOL I dunno |
| 02:12.02 | swm_ | Oh so I can sell open source and make a profit out of it? |
| 02:12.10 | benjk | that's not true, the GPL doesn't forbid you to charge for open source |
| 02:12.10 | Qwell | yes |
| 02:12.25 | swm_ | Well I'll see ya in a week as a millionare :) heh |
| 02:12.32 | Nugget | sure, but it's a "wink wink, nudge nudge" sort of situation. |
| 02:12.41 | swm_ | ?! |
| 02:12.44 | benjk | the only thing it requires is that you provide source code when you distribute |
| 02:12.45 | Nugget | since GPL'ing code reduces the market value of that code to $0, you can't sell it for very long. |
| 02:13.03 | benjk | and that you grant the same rights you have been granted under the GPL |
| 02:13.04 | swm_ | Nugget: Elaborate |
| 02:13.18 | benjk | Nugget, not necessarily |
| 02:13.31 | swm_ | who has a definitive answer? |
| 02:13.43 | benjk | swm: the FSF |
| 02:13.46 | junbug | swm_: BSD'd you can sell w/o realsing source |
| 02:13.50 | Ateboy | mysql sells open source |
| 02:13.51 | swm_ | WTF is WSF? |
| 02:13.58 | Nugget | GPL'd code has an effective market value of $0. The only way people have been successful "selling" GPL'd code have been companies that are really selling you service and support or companies that wrap you up in ugly EULAs |
| 02:14.04 | Nugget | mysql does not sell GPL code. |
| 02:14.10 | Qwell | Ateboy: mysql sells mysql...which is not quite gpl |
| 02:14.14 | Nugget | they sell a commercially-licensed mysql which is not GPL. |
| 02:14.17 | benjk | FSF = Free Software Foundation, creators and guardians of the GPL |
| 02:14.20 | Qwell | I mean...it's gpl, but...yeah, what Nugget said |
| 02:14.22 | ManxPower | swm_, There are entire web sites devoted to legal GPL suff. Unless you are a lawyer |
| 02:14.33 | Ateboy | they sell services for gpl code though |
| 02:14.38 | benjk | Take Yellow Dog Linux as an example |
| 02:14.41 | Nugget | I was not talking about services. |
| 02:14.46 | benjk | its sold on CD |
| 02:14.47 | ManxPower | The owner of the copyright gets special exemptions |
| 02:14.49 | benjk | with sources |
| 02:14.50 | Nugget | strictly speaking of the code, the market value of GPL'd code is $0. |
| 02:15.09 | Qwell | I think what RH is really selling, is the packaging, etc |
| 02:15.12 | benjk | and with a little delay it is available also as a free download |
| 02:15.14 | Qwell | (and of course, support) |
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| 02:15.23 | zu | and updates |
| 02:15.26 | benjk | yet some people prefer to buy the CD pack |
| 02:15.32 | Nugget | RH also employs some nasty EULAs on their advanced server product, to build a moat around their GPL'd code. |
| 02:15.40 | Qwell | zu: no, you're paying for the right to use their service of updates |
| 02:15.41 | Qwell | :p |
| 02:15.52 | zu | :) |
| 02:15.52 | Qwell | zu: You're more than welcome to download the updates yourself |
| 02:15.59 | swm_ | I thought you could only sell GPL code at the cost of making the CD & Shipping and nothing to make a profit margin? |
| 02:16.05 | benjk | and there is nothing in the GPL that says that Terrasoft can't sell their Linux distro as a CD pack |
| 02:16.19 | Nugget | you can sell GPL'd code for whatever the market will bear, but for all practical purposes that amount is $0. |
| 02:16.27 | benjk | swm: you could even charge for the right to download |
| 02:16.30 | zu | Or sell a server with gpl software and charge for support in the prices |
| 02:16.52 | benjk | what you cannot do is forbid anybody else to make it available for free after they donwloaded from you |
| 02:16.56 | swm_ | zu: I like that idea heh |
| 02:17.38 | swm_ | Just bought myself a cd printer/burner... $1,200 ... |
| 02:17.47 | swm_ | Dual burns and prints! Woo hoo |
| 02:17.53 | Nugget | redhat sells an embarassing number of copies of their advanced server product, and in just about every case the customer is buying it because they need to be able to say "we are running redhat advanced server" in order to receive support for their hardware or application software (like oracle) |
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| 02:18.08 | Nugget | it's quite a nice scam for redhat, if you ask me |
| 02:18.11 | swm_ | I would love a copy of redhat.. not fedora.. |
| 02:18.15 | Sedorox | Anyone have Asterisk doing timing on a SuperMicro box w/o zaptel hardware? |
| 02:18.16 | zu | Nugget or for some its CC cert |
| 02:18.23 | Nugget | yeah |
| 02:18.31 | swm_ | I guess redhat is more stable with 64 bit systems |
| 02:18.44 | Nugget | nobody wants redhat, but lots of people need to be able to say they're using redhat. |
| 02:18.47 | zu | But with xp gaining cc cert its basicly something you buy now |
| 02:18.52 | swm_ | Sedorox: No timing devices suck |
| 02:19.07 | zu | you should read the opensuse eula lol |
| 02:19.10 | swm_ | Nugget: I prefer slackware heh |
| 02:19.14 | zu | you cannot bundle or sell |
| 02:19.22 | Sedorox | swm_: yea... and to top it off.. this supermicro.. is OCHI.... and ztdummy needs UCHI (or whichever way it is...) |
| 02:19.31 | Nugget | I use slackware too, but not on my oracle boxes (because I need oracle to answer the phone when I call) |
| 02:19.38 | benjk | OHCI and UHCI |
| 02:19.40 | zu | Sedorox: run a newer version that uses rtc |
| 02:19.53 | swm_ | Sedorox: So buy a cheap 19.99 X100P and use that for timing |
| 02:19.56 | Sedorox | zu.. of zaptel? |
| 02:20.05 | Sedorox | swm_: can't.. 1u.. only has 1 pci.. which has a SATA controller... |
| 02:20.31 | swm_ | Sedorox: Change to a 2U??? heh |
| 02:20.34 | zu | since ztdummy use kernel system tick timer if PC architecture RTC is avail |
| 02:20.42 | Sedorox | lol.. can't :p |
| 02:21.01 | Sedorox | zu: know what version? I'm running 1.0.10.... maybe 1.2 supports it? |
| 02:21.02 | swm_ | RTC is unreliable |
| 02:21.11 | zu | yea it works thouhg |
| 02:21.15 | zu | 1.2x |
| 02:21.20 | Sedorox | I just need something for conference... and MoH |
| 02:21.32 | swm_ | I built a Intel SE7500WV2 Dual 2.0 Xeon Core box and well... figured out why not to rely on the RTC |
| 02:21.35 | zu | I have servers with usb disabled and rtc used for meetme sip conf's |
| 02:21.36 | Sedorox | I didn't even realise to look about the usb when we bought this box |
| 02:21.48 | zu | they are dual xeons too |
| 02:21.57 | Sedorox | this is just a Dual P3 1gig |
| 02:22.11 | swm_ | 1 Gig whadda waste |
| 02:22.24 | Sedorox | well... its our pbx... |
| 02:22.38 | Sedorox | and also does backups/replicas for mysql |
| 02:22.41 | swm_ | Dual P3 with 1 Gig of ram? WTF! |
| 02:22.45 | Sedorox | noooooo... |
| 02:22.49 | Sedorox | proc's are 1gig |
| 02:22.51 | Sedorox | only 512 ram |
| 02:23.03 | implicit | Sedorox, ok |
| 02:23.04 | swm_ | Oh I think i need some nausea drugs |
| 02:23.15 | Sedorox | lol |
| 02:23.21 | Sedorox | implicit: eh? |
| 02:24.52 | Sedorox | I've been meaning to upgrade to 1.2.... just want to do it on my box here first.. work out thr quirks.. then put it on the production box... |
| 02:25.29 | swm_ | Wonder if they could create a USB 2.0 Adapter that plugs into a 1.0/1.1 ? heh |
| 02:25.34 | N9URK | Has anyone here tried using "Using cepstral webbased voice synthesized demo to generate voice prompts for asterisk on the fly" |
| 02:25.34 | implicit | Sedorox, don't worry about it |
| 02:25.41 | N9URK | found at http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk+text2cepstral+www+demo |
| 02:25.53 | Sedorox | mmm ok........ |
| 02:27.58 | swm_ | I was reading somewhere if you stick a lamp cord on pins 1 and 26 of the usb control chip you can get some colorful effects @ 120V 5A :) |
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| 02:35.08 | Sedorox | hmmm |
| 02:41.26 | _Sam-- | can anyone point me in the right direction for piping asterisk console output to a front panel display on a case like this: http://www.ahanix.com/ahanix_product.asp?pid=25 |
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| 02:47.11 | tzanger | _Sam--: you could tail one of the logs |
| 02:47.22 | _Sam-- | thats not a bad idea |
| 02:47.29 | tzanger | or do some System() commands in your dialplan at strategic points |
| 02:48.16 | _Sam-- | im coming up at a loss though to find the linux/kernel type stuff to even make that thing work |
| 02:48.26 | _Sam-- | what linux package would i look at? |
| 02:48.44 | _Sam-- | there is lcdproc, but that is for a different type of front panel |
| 02:49.20 | CoaxD | lcdproc sux. i wrote a bsd licensed lib a while back that emulated lcdproc on a 20x4 display |
| 02:49.31 | CoaxD | well, it didnt emulate. it was a completely different api and such |
| 02:50.03 | tzanger | _Sam--: there will be userspace drivers for it |
| 02:50.09 | tzanger | check freshmeat.net |
| 02:50.19 | tzanger | ahh lcdproc |
| 02:50.22 | CoaxD | even did an auto-backlight-shutter-offer with pthreads. (at the time, the matrixorbital lcd displays didnt have functional timer-shutter-offers) |
| 02:50.26 | tzanger | it's quite trivial to run that stuff |
| 02:50.35 | tzanger | "auto-backlight-shutter-offer" ? |
| 02:50.39 | CoaxD | tzanger; yeah |
| 02:50.42 | tzanger | wtf is timer-shutter-offer |
| 02:50.53 | CoaxD | tzanger; if ya set the backlight timer, it stayed on infinitely |
| 02:51.00 | CoaxD | tzanger: so i rewrote it in software |
| 02:51.02 | tzanger | ahhhhhhhhhhh |
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| 02:51.16 | tzanger | I was thinking "offer" as in to grant access |
| 02:51.18 | CoaxD | tzanger; it'd spawn a thread and wait the default timeout period and then shut the light off |
| 02:51.21 | CoaxD | ah. no |
| 02:51.25 | CoaxD | hehe |
| 02:51.32 | cp5 | has anyone experienced asterisk 1.2.1 crashing intermittently when going into a Queue with Agents? |
| 02:51.33 | tzanger | and shutter as in what lets light through |
| 02:51.42 | CoaxD | tzanger: bwahahahaha |
| 02:51.47 | tzanger | so you can understand my confusion |
| 02:51.57 | CoaxD | fyi; band camp was gay. but then again, so were the other movies |
| 02:53.21 | CoaxD | tzanger: ohyes, i understand |
| 02:53.34 | tzanger | cp5: I don't use queues, sorry |
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| 02:55.56 | cp5 | no prob |
| 02:56.45 | Qwell | cp5: I think there is something on the wiki |
| 02:56.55 | Qwell | cp5: And when are you releasing the new version of your stuff? :p |
| 02:56.59 | Qwell | erm, not wiki, bug tracker |
| 02:57.02 | cp5 | what's up qwell :) |
| 02:57.03 | Qwell | I keep doing that |
| 02:57.05 | cp5 | i'll take a look |
| 02:57.16 | cp5 | the nat2nat stuff? |
| 02:57.19 | Qwell | cp5: You promised me a release, months ago. ;) |
| 02:57.37 | cp5 | i got consumed with a myspace worm i guess |
| 02:57.48 | Qwell | myspace worm? |
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| 02:58.53 | Qwell | ahahaha, that was you? :P |
| 02:59.23 | cp5 | hah yeah |
| 02:59.27 | cp5 | what have you been up to |
| 02:59.52 | Qwell | this... |
| 03:01.52 | Sedorox | anyone know what the zapnet and zapras flags do in gentoo/portage for zaptel? |
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| 03:03.56 | SpaceBass | evening |
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| 03:04.39 | SpaceBass | d'oh |
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| 03:24.15 | Qwell | bkw__: y0 |
| 03:24.56 | postel | coppice: Hi, any idea where can i get networking and voip gear in HK? |
| 03:25.12 | zu | Honk Kong? |
| 03:25.19 | postel | yeap |
| 03:25.28 | zu | mainland from shen zen |
| 03:25.28 | junbug | on any street corner i would presume |
| 03:25.33 | postel | and its HonG |
| 03:25.34 | coppice | networking gear is available just about anywhere. VoIP is really hard to find, for some reason |
| 03:25.39 | Qwell | junbug: :P |
| 03:25.56 | postel | junbug: heh, aint like that anymore |
| 03:26.17 | zu | mainland china |
| 03:26.37 | coppice | dunno. I think i could probably find the odd hub or two in the local supermarket :-) |
| 03:26.44 | postel | zu: we're talking HK, mainland is faaaaar |
| 03:27.03 | Qwell | is HK part of China? |
| 03:27.10 | coppice | if you are in sheung shui, the mainland is very close :-) |
| 03:27.23 | postel | Qwell: since 1997 |
| 03:27.28 | coppice | Qwell: I guess you are american |
| 03:27.32 | Qwell | coppice: indeed |
| 03:27.49 | Qwell | coppice: It'd be like you asking me if Toronto is part of Florida. :p |
| 03:28.04 | coppice | part of china, and yet not part of china. you need a visa, and pass through immigration to get from HK to mainland china |
| 03:28.09 | Qwell | ahh |
| 03:28.10 | zu | I live in florida and in the winter time it is part of toronto |
| 03:28.21 | coppice | postel: what do you need? |
| 03:28.39 | postel | coppice: routing gear, mostly junipers and ciscos |
| 03:29.04 | postel | coppice: also some wireless cards and wifi routers |
| 03:30.10 | coppice | oh, big stuff. there are several distributors for cisco, and at least one for juniper. check their distributor lists. simple stuff like wireless cards are cheaper when purchased in one of the several computer malls |
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| 03:30.27 | gambolputty | hi |
| 03:30.38 | TheCops | I'm services and reseller for cisco, if interesse postel. |
| 03:30.47 | gambolputty | anyone know of a good way in * to generate a random number without using AGI? |
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| 03:31.56 | postel | coppice: i think i found somebody to source my junies and he said he'll have a look for my ciscos, any idea of specific shops to source some cheap wifi pcmcias and a couple of WRT54 GS? |
| 03:32.17 | postel | TheCops: where are you located? |
| 03:32.24 | TheCops | postel, Canada |
| 03:32.27 | TheCops | Quebec |
| 03:32.50 | coppice | go in the malls in Mong Kok, Sham Shui Po, or Hennesey Road and there are lines of small shops selling linksys stuff |
| 03:32.53 | postel | TheCops: you're far away, my Tokyo rep is closer than you are |
| 03:32.58 | TheCops | lol |
| 03:33.00 | junbug | gambolputty: accessing $RANDOM env var? |
| 03:33.08 | zu | www.ebay.ca |
| 03:34.00 | gambolputty | thats a bash or sh shell thing right? |
| 03:34.35 | junbug | yea |
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| 03:36.06 | coppice | postel: going for a big deployment at mega-iadvantage? |
| 03:37.03 | tengulre | anybody using speakfreely under asterisk? |
| 03:38.51 | postel | coppice: its an R&D project, lots of cash to kill, but lots of things that needed too, so im trying for best pricing |
| 03:40.29 | postel | coppice: would the mongkok shops beat the pricing of Fortress and Broadway? any idea of the scale of difference? |
| 03:40.47 | Katty | hi lads. |
| 03:43.43 | mrdigital | Katty: how well do you know linux? |
| 03:44.01 | Katty | ... |
| 03:44.08 | Katty | twice as much as half. |
| 03:44.08 | dudes | what's linux??? |
| 03:44.43 | slappingt | does asterisk do a good job keeping tele-marketers away? |
| 03:44.44 | mrdigital | Katty: pm? |
| 03:45.04 | Katty | mrdigital: am. |
| 03:45.20 | slappingt | if you configure a VM menu system |
| 03:48.03 | mrdigital | Katty: can i message you? |
| 03:48.09 | coppice | postel: broadway and fortress are probably OK, but they don't have a wide range of stuff |
| 03:48.32 | Katty | mrdigital: please don't. |
| 03:48.43 | Katty | mrdigital: it's 10pm and my brain is off. |
| 03:49.46 | tzanger | yeah after 10pm I'm the only one who can message her :-0 |
| 03:49.48 | tzanger | er :-) |
| 03:50.21 | Sedorox | lol |
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| 03:52.48 | coppice | postel: where are you? |
| 03:52.57 | Katty | tzanger: not /just/ you |
| 03:53.02 | Katty | tzanger: about three other people can too |
| 03:53.09 | tzanger | what? why you hussy... :-) |
| 03:53.23 | Katty | what's a hussy? |
| 03:53.26 | tzanger | not sure |
| 03:53.28 | Katty | does it have anything to do with hugs? |
| 03:53.30 | tzanger | sounded right |
| 03:53.31 | postel | coppice: in a abandoned dungeon under kai tak |
| 03:53.47 | tzanger | I'm watching a PBS show on tesla |
| 03:53.50 | Katty | tzanger: silly. |
| 03:54.19 | coppice | postel: well, at least there's lots of good Thai food nearby |
| 03:55.05 | postel | i prefer sushi and sashimi, thai and chinese wont do it for me sadly |
| 03:55.15 | coppice | postel: watch out of all the leaking oil, though |
| 03:55.23 | postel | heh |
| 03:55.43 | tzanger | tesla's story is fascinating |
| 03:55.52 | tzanger | there are a lot of conspiracy theories I know that surround him too |
| 03:55.56 | coppice | postel: kowloon city is famous for thai food. you'll have to go at least an extra 500m for sushi :-) |
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| 03:56.50 | Katty | hi mike. |
| 03:57.33 | tzanger | it's amazing... he tore up a ... shit what do you call it when you get paid so much per unit sold, etc.? He tore up one that would give him $2/HP that was powered by AC |
| 03:57.33 | postel | coppice: naah, just jump on a plane and pay Tokyo a visit, have a local itamae prepare some fugu sashimi for you, by the time you inish your sake you'll catch the flight back :> |
| 03:57.33 | tzanger | do you have any idea what that would be worth these days?? |
| 03:57.47 | Katty | tzanger: worth a hug? |
| 03:58.05 | coppice | postel: that was probably more practical when kai tak was the airport |
| 03:58.36 | Katty | tzanger: i think a hug value would be more comprehendable right now. |
| 03:58.45 | tzanger | well yes probably |
| 03:59.11 | postel | coppice: kai tak was so cool, the plane almost touched rooftops before touching down, you were able to watch people through windows having diner |
| 03:59.37 | coppice | postel: that airport was a lot safer than the new one, though |
| 03:59.45 | tzanger | this reminds me of hedy lamarr |
| 04:00.08 | coppice | the lady who got ripped off over CDMA |
| 04:00.11 | tzanger | a hot chick *and* brilliant... god damn |
| 04:00.15 | tzanger | yup |
| 04:01.00 | _Sam-- | do most linuxes support the mini-itx motherboards? |
| 04:01.01 | coppice | although i doubt anything practical could have been built before ay interesting patents ran out |
| 04:01.07 | postel | coppice: the plane was coming parallel to the sea and then U-turning to reach the runway, people that were not flying HK often were scared to death, such a laugh |
| 04:01.30 | tzanger | bah I can only find her movies on ed2k |
| 04:01.38 | tzanger | no actual history on her technological achievements |
| 04:02.05 | coppice | _Sam--: I run FC3 on a mini-itx. some distributions screw up, though. FC4 would not install |
| 04:02.28 | benjk | somebody here from Canada? |
| 04:02.33 | coppice | postel: it *seemed* like a U-turn, but was only something like 60 degrees |
| 04:02.45 | Sedorox | I know people in Canada |
| 04:02.45 | Sedorox | :p |
| 04:02.45 | tzanger | yep |
| 04:02.47 | _Sam-- | thanks coppice |
| 04:03.03 | TheCops | benjk, me |
| 04:03.13 | benjk | can people in Canada not call US 1-866 toll free numbers? |
| 04:03.22 | tzanger | benjk: depends on what the 866 was provisioned for |
| 04:03.34 | coppice | postel: I loved watching to 747s pass below me, while sitting on top of the kowloon hills |
| 04:03.36 | benjk | it was provisioned by NuFone |
| 04:03.43 | tzanger | you can have them provisioned for US-only, Canada only, US/Canada, US/Canada/Mexico, you name it |
| 04:04.01 | postel | coppice: 60 or 90 or 180 it was pretty amazing, all the people shouting and clapping hands in the cabin spoiled the moment |
| 04:04.24 | benjk | do you happen to know what the default provisioning is NuFone uses? |
| 04:04.32 | Sedorox | I have a 866 thats US50/Canada.... |
| 04:04.33 | tzanger | that I don't |
| 04:05.06 | tzanger | hahaha tesla destroyed colorado springs' generator |
| 04:05.07 | tzanger | hahahaha |
| 04:05.08 | tzanger | "oops" |
| 04:05.08 | benjk | seen ~JerJer |
| 04:05.17 | benjk | ~seen JerJer |
| 04:05.23 | jbot | jerjer <n=JerJer@pdpc/supporter/bronze/jerjer> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 1d 23h 7m 1s ago, saying: 'thank you'. |
| 04:05.29 | benjk | ~seen shido6 |
| 04:05.30 | jbot | shido6 is currently on #asterisk. Has said a total of 5 messages. Is idling for 9h 24m 28s |
| 04:05.41 | coppice | postel: now they are spending a fortune cleaning up all the aviation fuel pollution so they can build housing on kai tak |
| 04:06.25 | _Sam-- | coppice: what kind of processor do you use in your mini-itx? |
| 04:06.56 | postel | coppice: heh, cleaning up the pollution, thats a funny one, there are more minerals in HK's atmosphere than on the periodic table |
| 04:07.27 | zu | yea but at least they have lots of smoking resturants |
| 04:07.33 | tzanger | god damn |
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| 04:07.43 | tzanger | can you imagine being the guy responsible for bringing electricty to the world? |
| 04:08.37 | coppice | _Sam--: C3. I think the C7 is supposed to be OK with any Linux. the C3 needs to be treated as an i586. distributions keep screwing up and making one or two packages built for i686 only. in the case of FC4 it seems to be something in SELinux. Even if you choose not to install that, it still fouls up |
| 04:09.07 | coppice | tzanger: So you believe lightning was created by god? :-) |
| 04:09.23 | zu | centos works well on the via's |
| 04:09.24 | tzanger | you *know* what I'm talking about :-) |
| 04:10.09 | coppice | postel: when kai tak airport closed they expected to quickly redevelop it. then they found how much leaking from fuel tanks had occurred :-) |
| 04:10.20 | _Sam-- | coppice: thanks again for the info....do you run asterisk on it? |
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| 04:10.57 | zu | I run linux on the i586 vias it runs just fine |
| 04:11.11 | coppice | _Sam--: no. I use it as a nice quite domestic file/print/gateway/general jack of all trades box that runs 24x7 |
| 04:11.36 | _Sam-- | the c7 would be this one? : "VIA Eden. EBGA 600 MHz fanless processor" |
| 04:11.45 | _Sam-- | i see alot of the c3 |
| 04:11.52 | postel | coppice: if they do manage to clean the area up though it would have plenty of space for housing development |
| 04:13.00 | coppice | the C3 is far more common. it has a couple of missing instructions that stop it being a proper i686. the c7 has those fixed. I'm not sure if the eden is the super low power version of the C3, or if its the C7 |
| 04:13.29 | _Sam-- | thank you...thats good info |
| 04:13.33 | coppice | postel: and high value development too - good location and great views |
| 04:13.59 | zu | The only problem on the c3s-c7s is lack of support for the watchdog timer |
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| 04:14.26 | coppice | what watchdog timer? |
| 04:14.48 | _Sam-- | im just trying to wow some clients with different form factors and looks |
| 04:14.55 | zu | a hardware watchdog time has a device node that must be written to evey minute, if it is not it reboots the machine |
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| 04:15.09 | _Sam-- | those c3/c7 could handle a reasonable number of simultaneous sip clients/registrations? |
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| 04:15.23 | coppice | the ITX boards are OK, but the boxes cost too much |
| 04:16.08 | coppice | zu: I didn't what a watchdog is. i asked which one you refered to. normal PCs have no watchdog, but some of the ITX stuff does |
| 04:16.57 | coppice | _Sam--: as long as the audio goes peer to peer, doing SIP is *very* lightweight |
| 04:17.01 | postel | coppice: should i stay for new year's festivities or fly to jp? its the year of the dog coming up, right? |
| 04:17.41 | _Sam-- | could it run a PRI? |
| 04:17.49 | zu | I prefer years of the dragon |
| 04:18.07 | coppice | postel: nothing much happens at chinese new year in HK. its like christmas in europe or the US. everyone goes home to their families, and the SHOPS ACTUALLY CLOSE :-) |
| 04:18.51 | zu | Thats one nice thing about christmas in the us you can still get chinese delivery :) yummy dumplings |
| 04:18.57 | coppice | if you know where to look, there will be lion dances in various spots, but that's about it |
| 04:20.09 | postel | not much then |
| 04:21.14 | coppice | well, if your family is here it can be fun. for an outsider its really dull. much less colourful than new year in the chinatowns of big western cities |
| 04:22.00 | postel | coppice: your english is far better than the average chinese i know, you're a gaijin yourself? |
| 04:22.43 | coppice | i'm one of those unusual tall, blond, blue eyed asians :-) |
| 04:23.03 | postel | heh, spot on |
| 04:23.09 | benjk | isn't that called gweilo in HK? |
| 04:23.42 | postel | most likely, it seems i spent more time with japanese hookers than chinese ones |
| 04:24.15 | benjk | haha |
| 04:24.26 | coppice | gweilo is correct - devil man |
| 04:24.56 | postel | yeah, they call people like yourself Ghosts |
| 04:25.03 | benjk | same in Japanese before the word 'gaijin' became popular - ohni = devil |
| 04:25.38 | coppice | well, you can translate the gwei as ghost or devil. some kind of nasty spirit |
| 04:26.19 | wasim | our new years party theme is "angels and daemons" ... |
| 04:26.41 | postel | coppice: so you must have been there for quite sometime then, you actually got to fly kai tak |
| 04:27.06 | coppice | i've lived here 15 years. |
| 04:27.21 | postel | wow! long time |
| 04:27.35 | coppice | it used to be a great place for telecoms. now it seriously sucks |
| 04:27.46 | coppice | same for electronics generally |
| 04:28.29 | postel | is the economy still as bad as it was? people were working overtime with no pay |
| 04:29.35 | postel | a friend told me the manager was waiting by the door at the end of the shift taking notes by the door on people leaving |
| 04:29.41 | coppice | working overtime with no pay is the usual practice in asia. :-) the economy has improved a lot, but I can't work out how. somehow people seem to be making money from something. electronics is terminally ill, though |
| 04:29.45 | postel | next dauy something like half of them were sacked |
| 04:32.43 | coppice | it doesn't seem to be that much better in china. two or three years ago design centres were popping up everywhere in shenzhen. a lot seem to have closed lately |
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| 04:35.56 | postel | coppice: mainland is and has been technology-work-dead, if HK doesnt give employment opportunities where do that thousands IT/technology graduates end each year? |
| 04:36.55 | Qwell | postel: I know several that have come here |
| 04:37.06 | zu | me 2 |
| 04:37.12 | postel | Qwell: #define here |
| 04:37.25 | Qwell | #define here localhost |
| 04:37.56 | coppice | the mainland has a phenomenal output of electronics graduates. the standards are very variable, though. a few people, like Hua Wei and ZTE, do advanced stuff. Quite a few do original, but not particularly demanding stuff. huge numbers package kit solutions |
| 04:39.14 | coppice | I can't imagine why anyone in HK would enter an engineering degree, other than civil, these days |
| 04:40.22 | postel | yeap, civil would help, you can be part of the construction team in kai tak ^_^ |
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| 04:54.06 | Kernel_core | hi all |
| 04:54.07 | livinded | has anyone else had problems sending their cid to cinguler numbers, whenever i set mine all i see is anonymous |
| 04:54.16 | livinded | cingular* |
| 04:54.36 | Kernel_core | I have 10 SIP phone connected to asterisk , how do I enable call transfer on them ? |
| 04:55.25 | Kernel_core | or conference .... |
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| 05:00.43 | Qwell | livinded: name or number? |
| 05:01.45 | wasim | Kernel_core: use features.conf or meetme.conf or the config on teh phones |
| 05:02.08 | Qwell | transfer is often a feature of the phone. What type of phone is it? |
| 05:03.07 | livinded | samsung x427 |
| 05:03.12 | livinded | it used to work fine |
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| 05:03.33 | Qwell | livinded: not you :p |
| 05:03.47 | Qwell | livinded: It's probably on Cingulars end...nothing you can do about it if that's the case |
| 05:03.52 | livinded | ok |
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| 05:10.41 | Kernel_core | Qwell: I use Xten |
| 05:11.32 | distortion | hmm, so when will asterisk support sip via tcp? :) |
| 05:13.15 | coppice | when its good and ready :-) |
| 05:13.36 | Qwell | sooner, if somebody writes it. ;] |
| 05:13.55 | distortion | :( <-- has too many hung calls with canreinvite=yes |
| 05:14.09 | Qwell | distortion: So don't reinvite... |
| 05:14.50 | distortion | well contrary to my voicemail issue earlier, another server i have i do 6t1's of g711 |
| 05:15.02 | distortion | == lots of bandwidth |
| 05:17.48 | zu | ip? or tdm? |
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| 05:18.27 | distortion | ip |
| 05:18.33 | distortion | which is 2x worse |
| 05:19.56 | distortion | seems to be like 20 megs of bandwidth |
| 05:20.36 | zu | ya thats ulaw for ya |
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| 05:21.19 | distortion | well, either sip+tcp to stop hung calls or g729+t38 for fax :D |
| 05:29.51 | edison | ? |
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| 05:46.42 | linlin | what config file would IVR related stuff tipicallt be located in |
| 05:47.15 | Qwell | linlin: extensions.conf |
| 05:48.52 | linlin | do you know if AMP edits that file to do its IVR tasks also or does it do something strange |
| 05:48.57 | Qwell | meh |
| 05:49.00 | Qwell | AMP breaks things |
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| 05:49.36 | linlin | not if you ONLY use amp |
| 05:49.41 | linlin | from what i hear |
| 05:49.42 | Qwell | yes, if you use only AMP |
| 05:50.02 | Qwell | AMP is *awful* |
| 05:50.09 | Nugget | yes it is. |
| 05:50.17 | linlin | ive modified some stuff, added things to some other configuration files and i havnt noticed a problem, but i know what your saying, ive dealt with tools like amp before |
| 05:50.24 | Qwell | need to find somebody to buy this hardware |
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| 05:51.49 | linlin | anything cheap? |
| 05:52.01 | linlin | cheap FXO card/box maybe? |
| 05:52.09 | Qwell | linlin: It's just a few things. mb+cpu+video card |
| 05:52.18 | linlin | oh ok |
| 05:52.28 | linlin | im afraid i have a rom full of that stuff :) |
| 05:52.31 | Qwell | and a tdm400p with an fxs if this other guy doesn't want it, heh |
| 05:52.33 | linlin | room* |
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| 05:59.51 | asterboy | how much for the fxs? |
| 06:00.58 | Qwell | asterboy: like $100. I shouldn't even be answering that question in here... |
| 06:01.53 | camonz | hi |
| 06:02.14 | camonz | i'm having problems playing mp3s with asterisk on suse linux |
| 06:02.27 | Qwell | camonz: what problems? |
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| 06:02.48 | camonz | for some reason i have mpf321 installed and i cannot seem to remove that package |
| 06:02.54 | camonz | sorry, mpg321 |
| 06:03.27 | asterboy | Qwell, is that the only telecom hardware for sale? |
| 06:03.32 | Qwell | asterboy: yeah :p |
| 06:03.57 | camonz | also when i do make mpg123 in the src/asterisk directory it says, it's compiling that versions, but in the end it only softlinks to mpg321 binary |
| 06:04.22 | asterboy | new is $140 so its a fair price...I'll inquire later if some of my bids fall through on eBay |
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| 06:05.30 | postel | camonz: go to mpg123.de get 0.59r and build it |
| 06:05.59 | Qwell | postel: nah |
| 06:06.06 | Qwell | make mpg123 install |
| 06:06.07 | camonz | wouldn't building mpg123 on this system that already has mpg321 create inconsistencies? |
| 06:06.58 | postel | camonz: no it wont, just simlink mpg321 to 0.59r and it would STFU |
| 06:07.16 | camonz | trying to remove mpg321 with rpm -e mpg312-xxx-xx gives me a segmentation fault |
| 06:07.28 | postel | the joys of suse |
| 06:07.40 | Qwell | camonz: What version of *? |
| 06:07.41 | camonz | thanks, letme try |
| 06:07.45 | camonz | 1.2.0 |
| 06:07.50 | Qwell | Just use native MoH |
| 06:07.56 | Qwell | screw mpg123 |
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| 06:08.16 | camonz | how so? |
| 06:08.45 | Qwell | camonz: look at the musiconhold.conf.sample |
| 06:08.53 | camonz | thanks :-> |
| 06:14.57 | camonz | in the sample file it mentions the dir moh-native wich i don't have on var/lib/asterisk, is it ok, if i create the dir and add the files in there? |
| 06:15.10 | Qwell | camonz: yep |
| 06:15.39 | camonz | :-> |
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| 06:43.52 | N9URK | HI guys, I have a question that may be straightforward, but I can't figure it out. I have a script generating a sound file when someone dials a particular extension and I would like to start the music on hold until the file is generated and starts playing. WaitMusicOnHold(10) just delays the processing and MusicOnHold() seems to do nothing but play the hold music. What command should I use? THanks |
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| 06:56.38 | linlin | what would a command be to just play a sound file to whoever is on the line |
| 06:56.57 | N9URK | Playback(file_name) |
| 06:57.20 | linlin | do i need exten => before it? |
| 06:57.35 | N9URK | right |
| 06:57.53 | N9URK | exten =>99999,2,Playback(file_name) |
| 06:58.01 | linlin | what do the 9999 and 2 mean |
| 06:58.35 | N9URK | you will need to learn how to configure extensions.conf |
| 06:59.04 | linlin | what would something like exten => s,9,Playback(custom/aa_1) do |
| 06:59.05 | N9URK | do a google search for "asterisk tfot" and I think ch04 and ch05 talk about it |
| 06:59.15 | N9URK | that would work |
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| 07:01.38 | linlin | im just having a problem setting up my ivr, its like, its trying to play the file, because the silence jasts for jsut about hte right amount of time, and i can can enter input to perform the tasks, it just wont play the file ive created for it to play |
| 07:02.04 | N9URK | what is the name and extension of the file? |
| 07:02.30 | linlin | name is aa_1.wav |
| 07:02.46 | N9URK | you need to convert it to .gsm |
| 07:03.04 | znoG | before linlin asks his next question, the answer is "sox" |
| 07:03.05 | linlin | i think it is in gsm its just named wav |
| 07:03.20 | N9URK | then you need to rename it to .gsm, I think |
| 07:03.46 | linlin | i used something like exten => 456,3,Record(/tmp/asterisk-recording:gsm) to record it |
| 07:03.52 | linlin | that would encode it to gsm right? |
| 07:03.57 | linlin | it saved it as a wav though |
| 07:04.21 | N9URK | try renaming it and seeing what happens |
| 07:04.26 | linlin | ok |
| 07:05.31 | tainted_ | where does asterisk store voicemail passwords? |
| 07:05.38 | Qwell | tainted_: voicemail.conf |
| 07:05.42 | tainted_ | strange |
| 07:05.51 | Qwell | not really |
| 07:05.58 | camonz | N9URK: i'm trying to play an mp3 file with asterisk, at first i got some problems with mpg123 and mpg321, but i now have the right version mpg123 .059r, the CLI console says it started the proccess of playing the mp3 file but i don't get any sound on the other end |
| 07:06.00 | tainted_ | after user changed voicemail password asterisk removed the line from voicemail.conf context |
| 07:06.12 | Qwell | tainted_: let me guess... |
| 07:06.18 | Qwell | tainted_: last line in the conf file? |
| 07:06.22 | tainted_ | yea! |
| 07:06.34 | tainted_ | did i forget EOF or something |
| 07:06.37 | Qwell | yeah... |
| 07:06.39 | N9URK | how are you dialing in? |
| 07:06.40 | tainted_ | or to leave a line break |
| 07:06.46 | Qwell | I thought that was fixed. What version? |
| 07:06.47 | camonz | sip |
| 07:06.51 | tainted_ | 1.0.7 |
| 07:06.55 | N9URK | what carrier? |
| 07:06.55 | Qwell | yeah, there you go |
| 07:07.11 | N9URK | Sometimes the music doesn't go through sip connections, like Gizmo Project |
| 07:07.12 | tainted_ | nice catch |
| 07:07.14 | Qwell | tainted_: always add a newline at the end of config files. I know it affected vm, but I'm not sure what else |
| 07:07.24 | camonz | it's a direct connection in my home LAN |
| 07:07.25 | Qwell | and... |
| 07:07.26 | tainted_ | i remember it affected something else too |
| 07:07.26 | Qwell | upgrade! :p |
| 07:07.38 | linlin | YES! Finally :) |
| 07:07.49 | linlin | thanlyou so very much |
| 07:07.54 | N9URK | Glad to help |
| 07:08.03 | N9URK | what did you do? change the name? |
| 07:08.03 | Qwell | linlin: the new way to do a Record is filename.format, instead of filename:format |
| 07:08.08 | camonz | althought, Playback() works all right |
| 07:08.28 | linlin | ok, so thats why it recorded to .wav and not gsm like i thought i specified? |
| 07:08.34 | Qwell | linlin: see above |
| 07:08.37 | camonz | i'm setting a reallty simple example of dialing into the server, and depending on the extensions play 3 different sound files |
| 07:08.41 | Qwell | That may help. |
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| 07:09.17 | N9URK | camonz, I think that you can only play mp3s for the music on hold |
| 07:09.25 | N9URK | playback must be gsm |
| 07:09.29 | tainted_ | Qwell how do i remove "press 3 for advanced options" from VoiceMailMain? |
| 07:09.30 | Qwell | N9URK: not true |
| 07:09.34 | N9URK | ok |
| 07:09.36 | Qwell | tainted_: app_voicemail.c |
| 07:09.37 | N9URK | thanks Qwell |
| 07:09.38 | illljay | Hey .. I keep getting this error when I try and make outbound calls .. but incoming calls work just fine.. any ideas?: Dec 29 WARNING[888]: chan_iax2.c:5566 socket_read: -- Call rejected by 66.225.202.72: No authority found |
| 07:09.46 | Qwell | camonz: If you want to play mp3's with Playback(), you need to install asterisk-addons |
| 07:09.50 | illljay | I have nufone.. anybody ever had this prob before? |
| 07:09.51 | Qwell | which includes format_mp3 |
| 07:10.00 | camonz | i have it, |
| 07:10.03 | dudes | illljay - if it's not setup right |
| 07:10.07 | znoG | illljay: yes, are you trying to dial international? |
| 07:10.12 | illljay | nope |
| 07:10.14 | loud | or low credit. |
| 07:10.25 | illljay | just national |
| 07:10.48 | camonz | Qwell : but i'm trying to do it with MP3Player, i got the right ver of mpg123, and the CLI doesn't gives me any errors now, but i'm not getting any sound on the caller end |
| 07:11.19 | N9URK | Camonz > do you have the addons he mentioned? |
| 07:11.25 | camonz | yep |
| 07:11.31 | N9URK | hmmmm |
| 07:11.32 | dudes | MOH is cool |
| 07:11.39 | tainted_ | Qwell there's not voicemail.conf setting? |
| 07:11.40 | N9URK | I am not sure |
| 07:11.44 | Qwell | tainted_: don't think so |
| 07:11.51 | tainted_ | damn |
| 07:12.41 | camonz | i also seem to have an unexpected behaviour of the dialplan, when i set the dialing extension as s, the call doesn't get answered |
| 07:13.02 | camonz | i have to set it to _X. to be able to answer it, or set a ringing sound |
| 07:13.27 | dudes | that may be cause the extension you're calling doesn't match ./w s |
| 07:13.36 | dudes | while _X. pattern matches |
| 07:14.30 | N9URK | How can I play MusicOnHold while * is executing a php script to generate a voice file that takes about 10 seconds without having the music play for 10 seconds then then having there be silence while the file is generated? |
| 07:15.00 | N9URK | WaitMusicOnHold(10) just pushes everything back 10 seconds whilst it plays hold music |
| 07:15.10 | camonz | dudes: shouldn't the s extension be the extension that all calls begin with |
| 07:15.20 | dudes | no |
| 07:15.24 | N9URK | MusicOnHold() never seems to let the next steps happen |
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| 07:15.44 | dudes | if you call into a extension it has to be matches |
| 07:16.03 | dudes | if you want s,1 to be your execution point, you'll need to goto(context,s,1) |
| 07:16.11 | Qwell | N9URK: startmusiconhold? |
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| 07:17.50 | camonz | dudes: i know, that's the default behaviour for a user defined extension, although from reading the examples on asteriskguru.com about extensions.conf the use the s extension as the startpoint of the dialplan |
| 07:17.57 | N9URK | Qwell > I cannot find any docs on it |
| 07:18.03 | N9URK | do you know where I can read more about startmusiconhold? |
| 07:18.22 | dudes | camonz - play with * for a bit and you'll understand what I said above |
| 07:18.48 | camonz | thanks :-> |
| 07:19.25 | dudes | ie, try just having your extension instead of _X. and it should go through |
| 07:19.38 | dudes | if you want that extension to goto s,1 do a goto |
| 07:20.03 | *** join/#asterisk argos73 (i=1000@jason.argos.org) |
| 07:20.40 | camonz | actually what i want is that all incoming calls hear a ringing tone and then process them according to the extension dialed |
| 07:20.55 | camonz | that's why i wanted to use the s extension thinking it would match all calls |
| 07:22.27 | dudes | normally when I get a call I say have (several DIDs from wisc.) so I setup in my from-sip _262.,1,Goto(s,1) which then follows my menu |
| 07:22.42 | Qwell | N9URK: show application startmusiconhold |
| 07:23.03 | N9URK | debian*CLI> show application startmusiconhold |
| 07:23.03 | N9URK | Your application(s) is (are) not registered |
| 07:23.17 | N9URK | Is that the desired result? |
| 07:23.53 | dudes | Now if I want one of those DIDs goto my phone instead of menu I'd 262NXXNXXX,1,Dial(sip/mycontext) |
| 07:24.10 | Qwell | N9URK: What version of asterisk? |
| 07:24.16 | dudes | I'm too tired to think right (that's two sentences I've f'ed up tonight) |
| 07:24.29 | camonz | :-> |
| 07:24.33 | N9URK | 1.0.7 |
| 07:24.38 | Qwell | N9URK: upgrade |
| 07:24.49 | argos73 | yippee - my new pri works! :) |
| 07:24.56 | N9URK | I am using what was in apt-get. How difficult is it to upgrade? |
| 07:25.12 | dudes | you compile it |
| 07:25.14 | Qwell | N9URK: asterisk packages suck. grab the stable tarball |
| 07:25.15 | dudes | it's pretty easy |
| 07:25.40 | dudes | it's just make && make install |
| 07:25.44 | N9URK | ok |
| 07:25.51 | dudes | then it's like meeting a really easy chick taking her home and yea |
| 07:25.56 | N9URK | will it overwrite any files I need? |
| 07:26.09 | Qwell | N9URK: nope, as long as you don't do `make samples` |
| 07:26.28 | Qwell | backup /etc/asterisk/, and apt-get remove asterisk |
| 07:26.46 | Qwell | then install from source, and copy it back |
| 07:27.04 | dudes | I haven't used stable is a very long time |
| 07:27.13 | Qwell | I've never used stable, heh |
| 07:27.27 | dudes | I think early Gnudialer stuff was done on 1.0.7 |
| 07:27.36 | dudes | Can't remeber (might have been 8) |
| 07:27.38 | Qwell | well, maybe for a week when I started |
| 07:27.40 | dudes | Then we moved to head |
| 07:28.08 | N9URK | What is the stable version 1.2.1? |
| 07:28.18 | Qwell | N9URK: that's the latest stable |
| 07:28.28 | N9URK | thanks |
| 07:28.32 | dudes | head seems to meet our needs well enough, but Richard does some modding of the manager for stuff /w Puff. |
| 07:28.49 | dudes | Pretty cool stuff though |
| 07:29.48 | N9URK | I am making now |
| 07:29.58 | *** join/#asterisk mogorman (n=mogorman@user-24-236-84-48.knology.net) |
| 07:30.12 | Qwell | ogorman! |
| 07:30.19 | mogorman | Qwell! |
| 07:30.27 | mogorman | hows skinny |
| 07:30.33 | Qwell | getting fat |
| 07:30.39 | mogorman | heh |
| 07:30.40 | Qwell | too much fast food |
| 07:30.41 | dudes | beer will do that |
| 07:31.08 | N9URK | configure: error: termcap support not found |
| 07:31.09 | N9URK | make: *** [editline/libedit.a] Error 1 |
| 07:31.14 | N9URK | How bad is this error here "configure: error: termcap support not found" |
| 07:31.16 | Qwell | N9URK: You need curses |
| 07:31.20 | mogorman | dnnanan install ncurses |
| 07:31.35 | dudes | N9URK - the wiki is your friend |
| 07:31.38 | mogorman | i need a funny output if you dont have libiksemel |
| 07:31.42 | dudes | voip-info.org asterisk debian |
| 07:32.04 | Qwell | mogorman: "Click _here_ for more information." |
| 07:32.08 | dudes | that'll answer all your questions 10 times quick ... |
| 07:32.27 | mogorman | heh im thinking more like "refer to previous message" as the first error message |
| 07:32.32 | Qwell | heh |
| 07:33.05 | Qwell | pull ownership verification questions from old games, like Leisure Suit Larry |
| 07:33.30 | mogorman | lol |
| 07:33.32 | mogorman | i loved those |
| 07:33.35 | Qwell | heh |
| 07:33.38 | mogorman | i had a doctor game |
| 07:33.44 | mogorman | where you performed surgery |
| 07:33.49 | mogorman | but every now and then you got paged |
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| 07:34.00 | mogorman | and had to type in a number from this secret decoder ring |
| 07:34.03 | Qwell | awesome |
| 07:34.06 | mogorman | lost decoder ring after a month |
| 07:34.08 | mogorman | many died |
| 07:34.14 | dudes | Forget that! Playing doctor is for kids! try playing gynecologist. |
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| 07:35.03 | Qwell | haha |
| 07:35.04 | dudes | I wouldn't deal /w that either |
| 07:35.16 | Qwell | scared him off |
| 07:35.16 | mogorman | i dont think you can be a gyno |
| 07:35.21 | mogorman | and turn those people away |
| 07:35.21 | dudes | But I suppose I dont really know what that is either |
| 07:35.33 | dudes | I know, but I don't know |
| 07:35.36 | Qwell | dudes: be glad you don't |
| 07:35.46 | dudes | I'm sure I am |
| 07:35.49 | mogorman | ameb |
| 07:35.52 | mogorman | err amen |
| 07:36.01 | mogorman | i imagine most days its as fun as a proctologist |
| 07:36.06 | N9URK | do I need curses or ncurses? |
| 07:36.12 | mogorman | ncurses |
| 07:36.17 | dudes | dude, wiki is your friend |
| 07:36.33 | N9URK | the fucking wiki page didn't say, dude |
| 07:36.34 | mogorman | N9URK, dont mind them |
| 07:36.40 | N9URK | oh well |
| 07:36.42 | dudes | bullshit |
| 07:36.45 | mogorman | we or at least me is here to help |
| 07:36.45 | N9URK | it can't say everything |
| 07:36.45 | dudes | you didn't f'n look then |
| 07:36.58 | dudes | http://www.google.com/search?hs=d5W&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aunofficial&q=asterisk+debian+site%3Avoip-info.org&btnG=Search |
| 07:37.02 | dudes | first result |
| 07:37.06 | Corydon76-home | "John Rocker, your proctologist called. They just found your head." |
| 07:37.22 | dudes | so there, it does say everything |
| 07:37.22 | N9URK | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+Linux+Debian |
| 07:37.32 | N9URK | I do see down there |
| 07:37.35 | N9URK | getting tired I guess |
| 07:37.59 | dudes | I'm getting drunk and tired |
| 07:38.01 | mogorman | heh Corydon-w |
| 07:38.17 | Qwell | Corydon76-home: why only the 76 at home? |
| 07:38.19 | N9URK | why didn't it emerge when I did apt-get install asterisk the other day? |
| 07:38.28 | Qwell | N9URK: because debian is silly |
| 07:38.35 | Corydon76-home | mogorman: only the people who are from around here know who that is |
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| 07:38.59 | mogorman | nah john rocker is pretty famous idiot |
| 07:38.59 | Corydon76-home | Qwell: it's a leftover from when I only IRCed on Undernet |
| 07:39.01 | dudes | I've always wanted to spoof CID and call people from a movie place and tell them "In her ass 22" is late or something |
| 07:39.09 | Corydon76-home | Qwell: 9 chars is the max len on Undernet |
| 07:39.15 | Qwell | I see |
| 07:39.20 | N9URK | I already have ncurses (I thought so) |
| 07:39.24 | mogorman | dudes you can do that anyway |
| 07:39.27 | Corydon76-home | and when I registered my channels, it was at work |
| 07:39.30 | dudes | I can |
| 07:39.31 | Qwell | N9URK: need the dev package too |
| 07:39.35 | mogorman | i mean who is gonna know your number isnt blockbuster |
| 07:39.35 | Corydon76-home | Hence, I can't change the nick |
| 07:39.36 | dudes | Just haven't gotten around to it yet |
| 07:40.04 | dudes | N9URK - apt-get the list ont he wiki, cause it's your f'n friend |
| 07:40.41 | Corydon76-home | I suppose I could change my nick and link in to the old one, but the nickname is coded into a bunch of scripts, and I don't think about changing them when I'm there |
| 07:41.42 | Corydon76-home | Besides, the only reason I ever added the 76 was to differentiate myself from others who might choose the same moniker |
| 07:42.08 | Corydon76-home | Well, that and to answer a third of the usual ASL question |
| 07:42.21 | Qwell | 2/3, I'd say |
| 07:42.32 | Qwell | the L is quite obvious also |
| 07:42.42 | Corydon76-home | Oh, really? |
| 07:42.46 | Qwell | home? |
| 07:42.52 | Corydon76-home | I'm not in Indiana |
| 07:43.00 | Qwell | well, "home" is a location :p |
| 07:43.13 | Corydon76-home | Everywhere is home to somebody |
| 07:43.19 | Corydon76-home | Doesn't really answer it |
| 07:43.22 | dudes | home is where you come home to a nagging ..... |
| 07:43.32 | N9URK | are you from IN Corydon? |
| 07:43.36 | Qwell | dudes: sure, if you're married |
| 07:43.36 | Corydon76-home | No |
| 07:43.49 | dudes | Qwell - you make a valid point |
| 07:43.56 | Qwell | ...or living in your mothers basement |
| 07:43.57 | Corydon76-home | Qwell: I might as well be married, but he doesn't nag all that much |
| 07:43.59 | N9URK | ok, I thougth that was what you might have been implying |
| 07:44.05 | Qwell | Corydon76-home: lucky you |
| 07:44.08 | dudes | I don't live in my moms basement |
| 07:44.21 | dudes | I have no one living here (thankfully). |
| 07:44.36 | Corydon76-home | Qwell: I also own the house and pay the majority of the bills |
| 07:45.10 | Qwell | Corydon76-home: wives...heh |
| 07:45.17 | Qwell | (or...whatever) |
| 07:45.22 | Corydon76-home | Husbands |
| 07:45.25 | Qwell | close enough |
| 07:45.47 | dudes | Do you come home to a hot meal? if not I'd be pissed. |
| 07:45.52 | Corydon76-home | only for government work |
| 07:46.04 | Corydon76-home | I used to |
| 07:46.11 | Corydon76-home | and sometimes still do |
| 07:46.39 | dudes | I suppose it depends on their cooking skills |
| 07:46.40 | Corydon76-home | but we're on different diets now. He can take 6 ounces at a time, and I can eat whatever I want |
| 07:46.55 | Qwell | bypass? |
| 07:47.04 | Corydon76-home | No, banding |
| 07:47.11 | Corydon76-home | reversible |
| 07:47.19 | Qwell | hmm |
| 07:47.31 | Qwell | swm_: good afternoon |
| 07:47.37 | Corydon76-home | Adjustable in the doctor's office, too |
| 07:47.45 | Qwell | neat..new procedure? |
| 07:47.50 | swm_ | noon? Uhh it's pitch black .. sun went down 4 hours ago |
| 07:47.59 | dudes | it's 1:49AM here |
| 07:48.07 | Corydon76-home | LapBand... it's been the standard for weight reduction in Europe for at least a decade |
| 07:48.28 | Corydon76-home | America favors the more drastic and more dangerous surgeries |
| 07:48.29 | swm_ | It's 11:55 AM here |
| 07:48.31 | Qwell | Corydon76-home: seem to work pretty well? |
| 07:48.41 | dudes | Staples works though |
| 07:48.44 | dudes | sometimes |
| 07:48.47 | N9URK | YE$$$$$$$$$$$, they make the surgeon more money |
| 07:48.58 | Corydon76-home | Qwell: he's down 50 lbs so far (since September) and has another 70 to go... |
| 07:49.11 | Qwell | wow, so, yeah, similar to the other |
| 07:49.42 | Corydon76-home | The weight reduction between bypass and banding is similar overall... but banding gives a more gradual reduction |
| 07:50.02 | dudes | My ex's mom was a big women and she got staples and for being 50 some ... she not bad |
| 07:50.03 | Corydon76-home | bypass gives a huge drop in the first 2 months, then it levels off |
| 07:50.23 | Qwell | Corydon76-home: and more importantly, sticks with you forever...that's a huge downside |
| 07:50.26 | Corydon76-home | plus banding is much less risky |
| 07:50.57 | Corydon76-home | People who get the bypass have a huge risk of malnourishment |
| 07:51.17 | Corydon76-home | because that's exactly how bypass works... limit the amount able to be absorbed |
| 07:51.17 | N9URK | A friend of mine had the bypass ca. 18 mos ago |
| 07:51.34 | Corydon76-home | banding, otoh, makes you feel full with less food |
| 07:51.38 | N9URK | they were very very carefull to guarantee she got enough protein |
| 07:52.26 | coppice | loosing weight is the easy part. staying slim it the real test |
| 07:52.30 | Corydon76-home | Yep, same here... for his 6 oz, the doctor told him to prioritize on protein.... because after that amount, nothing more is going to stay down |
| 07:53.41 | Corydon76-home | The banding might as well be permanent... once he gets to his target weight, the doc extracts saline out of the adjustable sac, and the constriction is removed |
| 07:54.00 | Corydon76-home | He can have it readjusted to whatever size he needs to keep his weight down |
| 07:54.13 | illljay | Anybody know what in my config would cause every single call wether internal or external ALWAYS drop after 6 seconds of being connected could be? |
| 07:54.16 | Qwell | but the device is still there forever? |
| 07:54.21 | illljay | even just dialing a local extension.. =\ |
| 07:54.40 | Corydon76-home | The device can stay put forever... but if complications ever arose, it could be removed |
| 07:54.43 | dudes | illljay - timeout |
| 07:54.47 | Qwell | ahh |
| 07:54.53 | coppice | this is kinda the theory, but fat people get fat again the moment they relax |
| 07:55.10 | Qwell | That seems to be ideal...wonder why the bypass is more popular here. |
| 07:55.16 | illljay | hmm what i thought |
| 07:55.22 | illljay | cant seem to find where though |
| 07:55.24 | Corydon76-home | Plus he's got more energy than ever before, and he's exercising on a regular basis |
| 07:55.27 | illljay | like timeout on what part you know |
| 07:55.31 | Qwell | illljay: How are you dialing? |
| 07:55.38 | coppice | that's why eating less, and going through the short term pain that causes is the answer. you adapt to the new you as you go |
| 07:55.58 | dudes | coppice - agreed |
| 07:56.09 | dudes | Just get off your ass and move and ... |
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| 07:56.21 | Corydon76-home | Qwell: once the insurance companies start learning that LapBand is cheaper, and can be done outpatient, same day as surgery, they're gradually beginning to favor it in the US |
| 07:56.25 | Qwell | coppice, dudes: It's really not that easy for some |
| 07:56.46 | Corydon76-home | With bypass, you're never in the hospital shorter than a week... and those bills add up |
| 07:56.53 | Qwell | yeah, I bet |
| 07:57.01 | coppice | if you ask the dietitians who aren't making healthy profits from slimming, they will tell you to just eat like a person who is the weight you want to be. |
| 07:57.05 | Qwell | Corydon76-home: how soon until you can go back to work and such? |
| 07:57.23 | Corydon76-home | He was back to work with only a week off |
| 07:57.31 | dudes | It's probably not, cause I know I like my whisky at night and my smokes. But eating is something I do once or twice a day and it's normally healthy |
| 07:57.31 | coppice | Qwell: nothing worthwhile is easy. there is no easy solution that works long term |
| 07:58.18 | Corydon76-home | coppice: true enough. You can defeat bypass, just as you can defeat banding... they're just tools, to make the process easier |
| 07:58.23 | coppice | Qwell: at least with the short term pain approach you get the nastiest part out of the way first |
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| 07:58.54 | coppice | Corydon76-home: and quite profitable too |
| 07:59.05 | Qwell | coppice: I once cooked for a guy who was > 500lbs... I'd LOVE to see somebody try to seriously tell him to eat better, and get more exercise. |
| 07:59.06 | dudes | I'm hungry all day long. An hour after i finish eating I could go back and load up again. But I just hate growing a belly. So instead I limit myself regardless of my urge to wanna goto my kitchen and make something tasty. |
| 07:59.40 | coppice | Qwell: nothing will ever get such a person slim *and* keep him that way. its not their nature |
| 07:59.44 | Corydon76-home | coppice: the doc who did his surgery is the only one in town who does that surgery. He has a waiting list... He's doing multiple of these surgeries a day |
| 07:59.53 | Qwell | coppice: he was thin all his life. |
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| 08:00.31 | coppice | Qwell: >500lb and thin? |
| 08:00.33 | Corydon76-home | My husband got to the hospital before 6 am to have his surgery... |
| 08:00.45 | Qwell | coppice: well, obviously, thin before he got large. |
| 08:01.11 | FuriousGeorge | ~lastspoke FuriousGeorge |
| 08:01.14 | Corydon76-home | Target weight is 250... still overweight, but not dangerously so |
| 08:01.23 | coppice | Qwell: so, he let himeself go a bit :-) if he spent a long time thin, there is hope for him |
| 08:01.30 | FuriousGeorge | hey all |
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| 08:02.36 | coppice | My sister weighs 900lb, and isn't fat at all |
| 08:02.38 | coppice | She isn't 1lb overweight |
| 08:02.40 | coppice | But tall, terribly tall |
| 08:02.56 | dudes | 900! |
| 08:02.57 | Qwell | uhh |
| 08:02.59 | N9URK | Qwell: make install here |
| 08:03.07 | FuriousGeorge | 19'4" is average for that weight i believe |
| 08:03.12 | *** part/#asterisk linux2unix (n=linux2un@ip68-106-117-229.dc.dc.cox.net) |
| 08:03.18 | dudes | that's a huge bitch |
| 08:03.45 | Corydon76-home | Your sister's an elephant? |
| 08:04.06 | coppice | dudes: duh! that's a noel cowerd lyric |
| 08:04.07 | dudes | I'm not trying to be mean ... |
| 08:04.37 | dudes | I heard that somewhere can't think where though |
| 08:04.48 | FuriousGeorge | but you are creating a hostile environment for women in IT, or so i read :) |
| 08:05.03 | coppice | hungry women, hungry women, I feed them and weep! |
| 08:05.14 | dudes | Bitch get off my leg! |
| 08:05.21 | dudes | That's a bad bitch, it's my leg! |
| 08:05.48 | Corydon76-home | Is it a hostile environment if you've boinked all the unmarried women in your company? |
| 08:05.55 | dudes | No kitty it's my potpie! |
| 08:05.58 | dudes | haha |
| 08:06.16 | Qwell | hostile for them maybe |
| 08:06.23 | Qwell | for you...not so much |
| 08:06.37 | dudes | No unmarried chicks in my company |
| 08:06.38 | Corydon76-home | Well, considering there's only one unmarried woman in my company... |
| 08:07.10 | FuriousGeorge | Corydon76-home: i guess the hostility is relative to the type of sex :) |
| 08:07.10 | Corydon76-home | dudes: ah, so you HAVE boinked all the unmarried chicks in your company... |
| 08:07.22 | FuriousGeorge | is spanking hostile? |
| 08:07.25 | FuriousGeorge | anyway |
| 08:07.27 | Corydon76-home | FuriousGeorge: which time? |
| 08:07.34 | dudes | How could I since there isn't any |
| 08:07.36 | FuriousGeorge | the time you spanked her |
| 08:07.49 | Qwell | dudes: you've done none, you've done them all |
| 08:07.57 | Corydon76-home | dudes: all and none at the same time |
| 08:08.14 | dudes | it's all or nothing ... none isn't all since there is none to begin with |
| 08:09.10 | Corydon76-home | The real question is, is 0 times 0 zero? Or is zero times infinity still zero? |
| 08:09.38 | FuriousGeorge | ~PredicateLogic |
| 08:09.43 | camonz | 0 by inf is undeterminate, strangely enough since everything by 0 is 0 |
| 08:10.07 | camonz | is the same with 1^infinity |
| 08:10.15 | dudes | No the real question is, since all is greater than none ... |
| 08:10.30 | Corydon76-home | camonz: How about zero to the zeroth power? |
| 08:10.34 | camonz | 1 |
| 08:10.37 | dudes | is all greater* |
| 08:10.38 | Qwell | Being or representing the entire or total number, amount, or quantity |
| 08:10.45 | Corydon76-home | camonz: is it really? |
| 08:10.48 | camonz | yep |
| 08:11.00 | Corydon76-home | camonz: even though zero to the first power is 0? |
| 08:11.05 | Qwell | dudes: and, if you want to take an informal interpretation, all is more than one |
| 08:11.09 | camonz | yep |
| 08:11.17 | Qwell | Being more than one: "Who all came to the party?" |
| 08:11.29 | Corydon76-home | I thought zero to the zeroth power was also undefined |
| 08:11.35 | camonz | nope |
| 08:11.46 | camonz | any number to the zeroth power is 1 |
| 08:11.50 | N9URK | ^= |
| 08:11.55 | camonz | probably except infinity |
| 08:11.56 | Qwell | yeah, that always bothered me |
| 08:11.59 | Corydon76-home | but 1 to any power is 1... |
| 08:11.59 | N9URK | 0^0=1 |
| 08:12.26 | Corydon76-home | so 1 to the infinite power should still be 1, but it isn't |
| 08:12.29 | camonz | except 1^infinity wich is undeterminate |
| 08:12.38 | sbingner | that's stupid |
| 08:12.41 | sbingner | I can tell you it's 1 |
| 08:12.43 | camonz | yep, i didn't understand it either when i saw that calculus class |
| 08:12.44 | FuriousGeorge | jbot: no, predicate logic is a formal representation of mathematical logic which attempts to account for existence (or lack there of) in its veriables. For instance, "everything is such that" is the opposite of "no things are such that". |
| 08:12.45 | jbot | FuriousGeorge: okay |
| 08:12.55 | N9URK | what about 1^(infinity +1) ? |
| 08:13.03 | sbingner | lol |
| 08:13.03 | Corydon76-home | N9URK: same |
| 08:13.06 | camonz | infinity + any number is still infinity :-> |
| 08:13.13 | FuriousGeorge | shoot |
| 08:13.15 | Qwell | that can't be so |
| 08:13.21 | Qwell | because then you've defined infinity |
| 08:13.24 | Qwell | which makes it finite |
| 08:13.28 | sbingner | but what about infinity^infinity! lol |
| 08:13.34 | FuriousGeorge | i hope there wasnt something important filed under "predicate" i just overwrote |
| 08:13.43 | Corydon76-home | Then we get into the interesting part of infinity squared or infinity to the infinite power |
| 08:13.50 | dudes | I figure .. if (noWomen < all) { std::cout << "There are no bitches to have casual sex with ..." << std::endl; } |
| 08:14.05 | Corydon76-home | Then we have to have differing levels of infinity |
| 08:14.05 | camonz | you want a better one, try integration on complex variable, all the results are 2 * PI * Zo |
| 08:14.36 | N9URK | If a chicken and a half could lay an egg in a half in a day in a half how many chickens would it take to lay a dozen eggs in 6 days? |
| 08:14.39 | FuriousGeorge | dudes: if something is a woman then it is such that it is not a bitch or you can have casual sex with it |
| 08:14.43 | sbingner | Corydon: they don't actually say that do they? that's stuff I'd have said when I was 6 |
| 08:14.43 | Corydon76-home | dudes: but 0 !< 0 |
| 08:14.46 | camonz | Zo, is the function to be integrated evaluated at the indeterminate point inside the integration region |
| 08:15.27 | Corydon76-home | sbingner: it's a higher level of mathematics |
| 08:15.32 | dudes | Corydon76-home - 0 isn't inequal to zero and since noWomen is less than all (since all being more than 1) |
| 08:15.33 | Qwell | N9URK: 2 |
| 08:15.45 | sbingner | yea, infinity squared... that's higher lol |
| 08:15.51 | Corydon76-home | dudes: but all is defined as 0 in your case |
| 08:16.02 | Corydon76-home | so none is NOT less than all |
| 08:16.08 | Corydon76-home | none is EQUAL to all |
| 08:16.20 | Qwell | therefore, none = all = 1 |
| 08:16.28 | Corydon76-home | Qwell: no, zero |
| 08:16.34 | dudes | Corydon76-home - How is all 0? |
| 08:16.39 | Qwell | then all = none = 0 |
| 08:16.51 | sbingner | all is however many women there are I presume |
| 08:16.52 | Qwell | I always did hate math |
| 08:16.53 | Corydon76-home | dudes: no unmarried women, so the total of unmarried women is 0 |
| 08:17.22 | Corydon76-home | Therefore, you had sex with all unmarried women |
| 08:17.24 | sbingner | why can't you have casual sex with a married woman? |
| 08:17.36 | sbingner | I mean, it's be awkward to have non-casual sex with them |
| 08:17.59 | camonz | lol |
| 08:18.14 | dudes | Corydon76-home - in order to have sex I need to stick it in some chick |
| 08:18.19 | Qwell | PI IS EXACTLY THREE! |
| 08:18.28 | FuriousGeorge | stop liein |
| 08:18.49 | dudes | Corydon76-home - therefore, you're wrong and being completely unidealistist |
| 08:18.56 | mogorman | ahhhh qwell |
| 08:19.00 | mogorman | my brain hurts |
| 08:19.03 | Corydon76-home | dudes: not true. How could you do something zero times, if you had to do something at least once? |
| 08:19.05 | N9URK | Pi are square. the famous phrase that made the hillbilly take his kid out of school as everyone knows that pie are round |
| 08:19.08 | sbingner | pi is 4, what are you talking about? |
| 08:19.19 | sbingner | N9URK: lol |
| 08:19.19 | dudes | Corydon76-home - simply by not doing it at all |
| 08:19.24 | Corydon76-home | It's an inherent contradiction |
| 08:19.34 | mogorman | only for really large values of pi sbingner |
| 08:19.54 | Corydon76-home | dudes: what you're essentially there is that you don't believe that zero is a real number |
| 08:19.59 | N9URK | http://3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592.com/ |
| 08:20.13 | sbingner | hahahaha that's cool |
| 08:20.18 | Corydon76-home | You only have to do something for values greater than 0 |
| 08:20.41 | dudes | therefore, since there are no unmarried women ... I couldn't possibly do any therefore all the women in my company being 0 ... would evaluate to false |
| 08:20.58 | Corydon76-home | 0 = 0 is false? |
| 08:21.12 | camonz | i wonder how did they discover the value of PI |
| 08:21.17 | Corydon76-home | Stop the presses, the C compiler is wrong! |
| 08:21.29 | Qwell | camonz: easy |
| 08:21.33 | dudes | Corydon76-home - 0 (false) 1 (true) a f'n boolean |
| 08:21.45 | sbingner | camonz: uh, http://science.howstuffworks.com/pi.htm |
| 08:21.49 | dudes | what is hard about this ... all can't be 0 cause it'd f'n be FALSE |
| 08:21.59 | dudes | Do you f'n know anything |
| 08:22.00 | Corydon76-home | dudes: yes, but the statement is a comparison of two values |
| 08:22.06 | Qwell | 0 = false, 0 == 0 = true |
| 08:22.17 | camonz | actually 0 means true |
| 08:22.18 | camonz | 1 is false |
| 08:22.21 | sbingner | all can be zero if all is nothing |
| 08:22.23 | Corydon76-home | by having sex with all unmarried women, you are comparing 0 with 0, which is true |
| 08:22.27 | camonz | at least in rs-232 |
| 08:22.33 | sbingner | how many are all the 15-headed redheaded whales? |
| 08:22.34 | N9URK | if current leads voltage by 45 degrees and the inductive reactance is 100 ohms, what is the value of the resistor? |
| 08:22.53 | dudes | camonz - We evaluate 0 false in C++ |
| 08:23.14 | dudes | or a negative |
| 08:23.19 | sbingner | N9URK: pi |
| 08:23.36 | Corydon76-home | Now, at the same time that you have boinked all the unmarried women, you still have all of the unmarried women left to boink in order to have done all of them |
| 08:23.44 | camonz | strangely i'm used to doing it the opposite in assembly, on C i just use simple bool types, without worrying too much on it's numeric value |
| 08:23.51 | Corydon76-home | Isn't logic great? |
| 08:24.05 | Qwell | dudes: how many of them HAVEN'T you slept with? |
| 08:24.08 | dudes | Corydon76-home - I can't boinked a bitch IF she's not f'n there |
| 08:24.11 | Qwell | All of them? |
| 08:24.11 | dudes | therefore, it's false |
| 08:24.14 | dudes | all is false |
| 08:24.23 | Qwell | Or would you still argue none? |
| 08:24.24 | Corydon76-home | But the comparison isn't false |
| 08:24.29 | sbingner | Corydon: no, if there are no unmarried women you have no more umarried women to do, even though you never did any unmarried women and have done all the unmarried women |
| 08:24.31 | Corydon76-home | the comparison is always true |
| 08:25.01 | Corydon76-home | sbingner: you actually have all AND none left to do |
| 08:25.06 | Corydon76-home | at the same time |
| 08:25.19 | sbingner | I'd agree with you but that wouldn't be as much fun |
| 08:25.36 | dudes | Corydon76-home - you can't have two statements the same |
| 08:25.45 | Qwell | You most certainly can |
| 08:26.03 | Corydon76-home | dudes: I know it sounds like a contradiction, which is why it's so much fun |
| 08:26.19 | dudes | if you're trying to find true/false and both are true therefore it's a fucked up stupid function that's going to make a shitty program |
| 08:26.31 | dudes | Corydon76-home - you're being a stupid fuck |
| 08:26.35 | N9URK | Why is formula for Circumference the first derivative of the formula for Area? |
| 08:26.42 | Corydon76-home | No, I'm being a logical prick |
| 08:26.43 | dudes | Something can't be true and false |
| 08:26.58 | Corydon76-home | It's not both true and false... it's always true |
| 08:27.11 | Corydon76-home | 0 == 0 |
| 08:27.17 | dudes | there can't be unmarried people if there are none to start |
| 08:27.21 | dudes | therefore it's false |
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| 08:27.29 | sbingner | dudes: its not true and false... it's true that you've done all of them, and it's true that you've done none of them it's not false that you did all of them or false that you did none of them |
| 08:27.33 | N9URK | on a serious note: what does this mean? "Make: warning: Clock skew detected. Your build may be incomplete." |
| 08:27.33 | dudes | and if you try and evaluate true you'll have a mislogi |
| 08:27.34 | FuriousGeorge | N9URK: because its like 1D vs 3D |
| 08:27.38 | FuriousGeorge | i mean 2D |
| 08:27.42 | FuriousGeorge | 1 vs 2 |
| 08:27.50 | Corydon76-home | dudes: actually, you're doing the equation zero divided by zero |
| 08:27.58 | Corydon76-home | which is quite naturally undefined |
| 08:28.17 | FuriousGeorge | is the derivitive of area, volume? |
| 08:28.17 | coppice | the IEEE define it as NAN |
| 08:28.21 | sbingner | but that would be the percentage of them that you did... not wether or not you did all of them |
| 08:28.34 | Corydon76-home | Since you can plug in any number as the result |
| 08:28.37 | FuriousGeorge | of a circle i mean |
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| 08:28.51 | dudes | sbingner - we want true logic not it's true I did something I didn't do in the first place ... therefore it's false to keep logic write. And more importantly in the "real world' if you don't get your dick wet you didn't, thereforem, it's false that you did cause you didn't. |
| 08:28.51 | Corydon76-home | coppice: IEEE 754 |
| 08:29.00 | camonz | actually if he did 0/0 woman, that tends to infinity |
| 08:29.04 | Qwell | You actually know the IEEE number? |
| 08:29.11 | sbingner | dudes: you did none of them right? if all of them is none of them, then you did all of them |
| 08:29.11 | N9URK | the first derivative of Volume would be surface area? |
| 08:29.25 | coppice | camonz: i think he would tend to get tired |
| 08:29.25 | sbingner | because none == all |
| 08:29.27 | FuriousGeorge | dudes: i told you, this is best addressed by predicate logic http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_order_predicate_calculus |
| 08:29.35 | camonz | :-> |
| 08:29.35 | Corydon76-home | Qwell: yeah, it's the earlier standard for floating point |
| 08:29.43 | FuriousGeorge | take your premise, and you coclusion, prove or disprove |
| 08:29.46 | Corydon76-home | Qwell: also IEEE 854 |
| 08:30.12 | Corydon76-home | though 754 had the definition for 0 / 0 being NAN |
| 08:30.30 | dudes | if (unMarriedWomen > 1 ) { std::cout << "You might have screwed them, WTG!!" << std::endll; } else { std::cout << "haha, you didn't have no bitches" << std::endl; |
| 08:30.32 | camonz | N9URK: the volume of a sphere is 1/3 * A*R^3 * 2* PI |
| 08:30.37 | Qwell | void sleptwith(int unmarriedwomen) {int none, all; count = unmarriedwomen; all = count; none = 0; return;} |
| 08:30.45 | FuriousGeorge | N9URK: i dont know, thats what i was wondering |
| 08:30.51 | Corydon76-home | dudes: relax, they're just word games |
| 08:31.01 | Corydon76-home | dudes: you don't have to take it personally |
| 08:31.07 | coppice | IEEE754 is the NANny of floating point systems |
| 08:31.21 | dudes | We could write a class to define unmarried women |
| 08:31.25 | dudes | then evaluate it |
| 08:31.26 | N9URK | FG I will look in one minutes |
| 08:31.40 | Qwell | dudes: want me to? |
| 08:31.52 | sbingner | dudes: if (screwdunmarried_women >= total_unmarried_women) print 'I screwd em all'; if (screwdunmarried_women >= 0) print 'I didnt screw any of them'; |
| 08:31.52 | N9URK | After upgrading * I now am getting this error |
| 08:31.53 | N9URK | debian:/var/run# asterisk |
| 08:31.53 | N9URK | debian:/var/run# asterisk -r |
| 08:31.53 | N9URK | Unable to connect to remote asterisk (does /var/run/asterisk.ctl exist?) |
| 08:31.58 | sbingner | er |
| 08:32.02 | sbingner | dudes: if (screwdunmarried_women >= total_unmarried_women) print 'I screwd em all'; if (screwdunmarried_women <= 0) print 'I didnt screw any of them'; |
| 08:32.05 | Qwell | N9URK: asterisk -cvvvvv, see why it isn't loading |
| 08:32.11 | FuriousGeorge | N9URK: readme.UDEV? |
| 08:32.15 | N9URK | thanks |
| 08:32.20 | Corydon76-home | Qwell: you don't know hell until you've coded multiplication in assembly using only shift, add, and subtract |
| 08:32.28 | sbingner | the two tests are independant |
| 08:32.31 | Qwell | heh |
| 08:32.32 | sbingner | and could have been == yea yea yea |
| 08:32.33 | Corydon76-home | Oh, and division in assembly |
| 08:32.38 | Kumbang | duh, my * cannot connect to telco after replacing E100P with TE110P |
| 08:32.53 | Corydon76-home | division in assembly is actually more difficult with only shift and subtract |
| 08:32.53 | coppice | Corydon76-home: software multiply is trivial |
| 08:33.00 | N9URK | [chan_modem.so]Oct 15 03:36:03 WARNING[17694]: loader.c:325 __load_resource: /usr/lib/asterisk/modules/chan_modem.so: undefined symbol: ast_pthread_create |
| 08:33.00 | N9URK | Oct 15 03:36:03 WARNING[17694]: loader.c:499 load_modules: Loading module chan_modem.so failed! |
| 08:33.01 | N9URK | [chan_modem.so]Oct 15 03:36:03 WARNING[17694]: loader.c:325 __load_resource: /usr/lib/asterisk/modules/chan_modem.so: undefined symbol: ast_pthread_create |
| 08:33.06 | dudes | sbingner - a class appending to a vector would cut down on ifs =0 |
| 08:33.21 | sbingner | heh |
| 08:33.26 | Corydon76-home | coppice: yeah, multiply isn't all that bad |
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| 08:33.43 | Corydon76-home | coppice: division is annoying though, with all the tests and branches |
| 08:34.04 | camonz | division in multiples of 2 is easy though |
| 08:34.10 | sbingner | N9URK: what does that have to do with screwing all of the no unmarried women? |
| 08:34.12 | camonz | just right shift |
| 08:34.15 | dudes | I try to code /w real logic (meaning either it's true or false) ... and since a agent can't be waiting if he never was in the first place ... |
| 08:34.20 | Corydon76-home | especially when you do 32 bit division on an 8 bit processor |
| 08:34.23 | FuriousGeorge | N9URK: comment needing in modules.conf |
| 08:34.24 | N9URK | It won't let me screw anyone |
| 08:34.25 | dudes | therefore, he's not waiting so it's false |
| 08:34.26 | FuriousGeorge | its obvious |
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| 08:34.41 | FuriousGeorge | once you open |
| 08:35.03 | coppice | Corydon76-home: division is always bad for speed, but not terribly hard. once you can divide, you can also square root with minimal additional code, which is fun |
| 08:35.07 | Qwell | N9URK: rm /usr/lib/asterisk/modules/chan_modem.so |
| 08:35.07 | N9URK | oh boy |
| 08:35.20 | dudes | N9URK - no |
| 08:35.27 | sbingner | oh yea chan_modem is depreciated isn't it |
| 08:35.34 | Qwell | sbingner: along with many others |
| 08:35.34 | dudes | just noload => chan_modem.so in modules.so |
| 08:35.35 | N9URK | now I am getting more errors |
| 08:35.35 | Corydon76-home | DEPRECATED |
| 08:35.43 | Corydon76-home | depreciation is something different |
| 08:35.45 | Qwell | N9URK: I'd actually remove that whole dir, and run the make install again |
| 08:35.50 | N9URK | I commented the chan_modem.so line |
| 08:35.55 | sbingner | lol |
| 08:35.56 | N9URK | is that good enough |
| 08:36.03 | Qwell | depreciation is loss of value - deprecation is a strong suggestion against doing something |
| 08:36.05 | N9URK | remove what whole dir? |
| 08:36.07 | Qwell | N9URK: not really |
| 08:36.11 | Qwell | yeah, the whole modules dir |
| 08:36.17 | sbingner | Corydon: I actually never realized they were spelled differently... I suck |
| 08:36.22 | Qwell | then make install again |
| 08:36.28 | sbingner | that's gonna be a bitch to fix in my head |
| 08:36.33 | Corydon76-home | sbingner: pronounced differently, too |
| 08:36.43 | sbingner | I've never heard anybody say it :( |
| 08:36.53 | sbingner | de-pre-cated? |
| 08:36.53 | Qwell | sbingner: It's pronounced like it's spelled |
| 08:36.58 | Qwell | pretty much |
| 08:37.06 | Qwell | well, no |
| 08:37.10 | Corydon76-home | deh PREE she eight ed... DEP reh kate ed |
| 08:37.15 | Qwell | yeah |
| 08:37.18 | Qwell | not a strong "pre" |
| 08:37.30 | N9URK | can i jsut make install or do I need to make as well? |
| 08:37.41 | Qwell | N9URK: just make install |
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| 08:37.50 | sbingner | I sleep now, thanks for the english lesson :) |
| 08:37.54 | sbingner | heh |
| 08:38.03 | N9URK | make installing now |
| 08:38.05 | N9URK | thanks |
| 08:38.10 | Corydon76-home | pronunciations always help |
| 08:38.21 | dudes | N9URK - if you get it again take my suggestion |
| 08:38.35 | Qwell | I also absolutely love how "pronounce" and "pronunciation" is spelled differently |
| 08:38.54 | Qwell | You can't help but like the English language |
| 08:38.54 | Corydon76-home | I'm also going to bed... so much for my husband's admonishment not to come to bed late |
| 08:39.07 | sbingner | Corydon: my god you're a woman? |
| 08:39.11 | sbingner | no offense |
| 08:39.12 | N9URK | FG Surface area of a sphere is the first derivative of the volume of a sphere |
| 08:39.18 | camonz | Qwell: being a non native english speaker i agree |
| 08:39.20 | kippi | hi |
| 08:39.22 | sbingner | but like, wow heh |
| 08:39.22 | Corydon76-home | sbingner: No, I'm not... no offense... |
| 08:39.28 | sbingner | aah ok |
| 08:39.28 | N9URK | v=(4/3)pi ^3 |
| 08:39.35 | camonz | but actually the most interesting things of english come from old french |
| 08:39.42 | camonz | bureau by example |
| 08:39.44 | N9URK | s=4pi^r2 |
| 08:39.50 | Corydon76-home | And don't forget 355 / 113 |
| 08:40.03 | N9URK | make that v=(4/3)pi r ^3 |
| 08:40.19 | drumkilla | wow, volume of a sphere |
| 08:40.24 | drumkilla | my head hurts! |
| 08:40.25 | coppice | pi. pi. hey, there are mince pies in the lounge :-) |
| 08:40.26 | drumkilla | :-p |
| 08:41.03 | kippi | are Digium in this week? |
| 08:41.08 | Corydon76-home | coppice: gotta love doing calculations with pi with only integer math... ;-) |
| 08:41.20 | drumkilla | kippi: yes |
| 08:41.40 | coppice | FP is only simulated through integer maths and some justification |
| 08:42.40 | Corydon76-home | Well, there's also fixed point math |
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| 08:44.30 | Corydon76-home | Though yes, fixed point might as well be integers... |
| 08:44.43 | coppice | which is integer maths with human justification in advance |
| 08:45.42 | Corydon76-home | Anyway, I'm off to bed now |
| 08:45.48 | N9URK | good night corydon |
| 08:45.57 | Corydon76-home | Night |
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| 08:51.00 | camonz | i'm checking out as well |
| 08:51.10 | camonz | nice talking to you all :->, cya tomorrow |
| 08:51.11 | N9URK | good night |
| 08:51.15 | N9URK | adios |
| 08:51.18 | camonz | chao |
| 08:51.20 | camonz | :-> |
| 08:53.48 | N9URK | make[1]: warning: Clock skew detected. Your build may be incomplete. |
| 08:53.50 | N9URK | what does this mean? make[1]: warning: Clock skew detected. Your build may be incomplete. |
| 08:54.32 | dudes | clock skew |
| 08:54.47 | coppice | it means some files have a date in the future |
| 08:54.56 | N9URK | oh ok |
| 08:54.58 | dudes | I was getting to that |
| 08:55.13 | dudes | We compiled a * from the past before |
| 08:55.20 | N9URK | yes |
| 08:55.31 | N9URK | from the past that we have not entered yet |
| 08:55.39 | dudes | and my friend said, I didn't get any warnings on load ... and I told him it's cause they haven't been invented yet |
| 08:55.44 | N9URK | 2006 is the past, we jsut don't know it yet |
| 08:56.07 | dudes | sicne you can't be in 06' yet it is in the past |
| 08:56.09 | coppice | we can predict it with high likelihood, though |
| 08:56.38 | dudes | Hopefully 06' will be a good year (peaceful at least) |
| 08:57.02 | coppice | that would be unique |
| 08:57.07 | dudes | But I have a feeling there will be more violence in the middle east |
| 08:57.12 | dudes | and possibly asia |
| 08:57.21 | N9URK | You know what is hard to believe though? |
| 08:57.43 | N9URK | Shrub hasn't even served a whole year of his second term yet |
| 08:58.10 | coppice | i think that explains dudes comments |
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| 08:58.37 | dudes | I hope for peace |
| 08:58.48 | dudes | But to be honest, I don't see why we can't all just get along |
| 08:58.51 | N9URK | It seems like it has been ages since the elections of 04 |
| 08:58.58 | N9URK | I hope it is peacefull as well |
| 08:59.07 | dudes | but I do like Bush |
| 08:59.28 | coppice | then you apparently don't hope for peace |
| 09:00.04 | N9URK | you all of seen the signs that say "Know Jesus - Know peace"? |
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| 09:00.11 | dudes | then you like dictators who torture your fellow man |
| 09:00.15 | N9URK | "KNow Bush - No Peace" |
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| 09:00.23 | N9URK | "No Bush - Know Peace" |
| 09:00.43 | dudes | No Bush == no peace sounds right too me |
| 09:00.50 | dudes | and where are you two from? |
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| 09:01.08 | dudes | I'm from minnesota |
| 09:01.10 | dudes | US |
| 09:01.17 | N9URK | NC |
| 09:01.30 | dudes | A dumb demi, huh |
| 09:01.59 | N9URK | nope |
| 09:02.05 | dudes | If you hate bush, you do have the right to decend |
| 09:02.15 | N9URK | I am not a Republicrat |
| 09:02.43 | dudes | You do know our godfathers were Republicans right |
| 09:02.56 | N9URK | looks like it has made ok this time |
| 09:03.45 | dudes | Let's say |
| 09:03.49 | FuriousGeorge | N9URK: did you find that line in modules.conf? are u up and running? |
| 09:04.14 | N9URK | its running now |
| 09:04.23 | N9URK | did you see my message to you earlier FG? |
| 09:04.25 | dudes | "Bush was raping and torturing your family" ... You'd want Tony Blair to come and kick his ass" |
| 09:04.32 | FuriousGeorge | what about the derivative of the forumla for the area of a circle? |
| 09:04.37 | N9URK | 03:38 |
| 09:05.05 | N9URK | Look at the messages starting 03:38 |
| 09:05.05 | dudes | I know I would ... But I suppose I have the right to decend if I please. Something some don't have that we do. |
| 09:06.04 | dudes | Some don't have the right we do * |
| 09:06.54 | dudes | It's not like we invated a country for profit ... cause if we did we would be filling our tanks /w a f'n five spot |
| 09:07.16 | N9URK | you may not be profiting, but Halliburton sure is |
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| 09:07.53 | dudes | haha |
| 09:07.59 | dudes | you're an idiot |
| 09:08.07 | dudes | which explains why you can't compile * |
| 09:08.09 | coppice | you might like to ask the women in iraq about freedom now they've had practically all signs of sexual equality removed |
| 09:08.15 | dudes | cause your're too stupid to read |
| 09:08.50 | N9URK | Furious George: are you still around? |
| 09:08.56 | dudes | coppice - and you're smoking what |
| 09:09.18 | coppice | dudes: you don't get around much, do you |
| 09:09.37 | N9URK | those MN winters freeze the brain |
| 09:10.59 | dudes | haha |
| 09:11.08 | dudes | that's funny |
| 09:12.17 | N9URK | now that it is up and running, I am not getting any of the sound files to play. The sound files were in /usr/share/asterisk/sounds. Do they need to move to /var/lib/asterisk/sounds? |
| 09:12.37 | dudes | it's cause you're not smart enought to read |
| 09:12.44 | dudes | and you want everyone todo everything for you |
| 09:12.55 | dudes | a typical democrat .. oh poor me and my f'n life |
| 09:13.02 | N9URK | I have a better idea |
| 09:13.09 | dudes | I'm a loser lowlife too lazy to get off my ass and do something |
| 09:13.14 | dudes | I know |
| 09:13.14 | N9URK | Fixed that problem |
| 09:13.31 | iDunno | could just symlink it :P |
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| 09:13.39 | N9URK | ok thanks |
| 09:13.41 | dudes | Then why say something 10 seconds prior to the contrary |
| 09:13.44 | N9URK | I love the iggy bin |
| 09:14.07 | dudes | Oh, cause your a anti democracy clearly |
| 09:14.15 | iDunno | wtf?! |
| 09:14.39 | N9URK | the iggy bin fixed my dudes problem |
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| 09:14.44 | iDunno | So, yesterday there was an argument about... what was it... milk. That was it. |
| 09:14.47 | N9URK | Thank you for the help |
| 09:15.01 | N9URK | that is great |
| 09:15.02 | dudes | get a life and move somewhere where you get tortured |
| 09:15.11 | iDunno | and today we've got a democracy/anti-democracy thing going on. |
| 09:15.29 | FuriousGeorge | N9URK: so apparently i guessed right |
| 09:15.41 | dudes | Cause you do have the right to decend ... so do it |
| 09:15.45 | N9URK | yeah, you were right (if you said sa was v') |
| 09:15.50 | N9URK | I think that was what you said |
| 09:15.58 | iDunno | decend? what? down the mountain? |
| 09:15.59 | N9URK | too lazy to look back ;) |
| 09:16.21 | FuriousGeorge | N9URK: i was intending to extend upon what you said vis a vi the formuli for are and circumference |
| 09:16.33 | N9URK | yeah |
| 09:16.37 | dudes | descend rather |
| 09:16.39 | FuriousGeorge | whichever i said :) i already forgot which way we were deriving |
| 09:16.50 | dudes | meaning --- move elsewhere |
| 09:16.51 | N9URK | Volume = (4/3) pi r^3 |
| 09:17.03 | N9URK | S.A. = 4 pi r ^2 |
| 09:17.08 | iDunno | hmm - spherical. |
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| 09:17.19 | N9URK | therefore S.A. = V' |
| 09:17.28 | iDunno | erm. |
| 09:17.31 | FuriousGeorge | its been about 8 years and behvrl sci degree b/t my last real math class in high school, i shoulda done something math related |
| 09:17.34 | FuriousGeorge | anyway |
| 09:17.36 | iDunno | in lala land, maybe ;) |
| 09:17.53 | N9URK | math does help |
| 09:18.04 | dudes | My friend could own you /w math |
| 09:18.11 | FuriousGeorge | N9URK: what do you think is the significance of the derivative of the volume? |
| 09:19.05 | N9URK | You do remember what a derivative is? (since you ref. your behvrl sci deg I assume you may not) |
| 09:19.19 | FuriousGeorge | i guess if a sphere grows at a constant parabolic rate you could use the derivative of volume to calculate size? |
| 09:19.25 | N9URK | yeah |
| 09:19.38 | FuriousGeorge | N9URK: pulled that one out of my butt too |
| 09:19.51 | FuriousGeorge | wonder if its accurate at all. i shoulda done something with math |
| 09:19.52 | N9URK | I never got a real good answer from my calc teachers |
| 09:20.06 | dudes | go figure, pussy democrat anti-freedom fags ... Pussies |
| 09:20.23 | coppice | i love a finely reasoned argument |
| 09:20.28 | iDunno | it's too early for this shit. |
| 09:20.38 | dudes | It's only 3:22AM |
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| 09:20.44 | iDunno | especially when it's entirely one sided, dudes against the world ;) |
| 09:20.50 | N9URK | if you have f(x) = x^2 the first derivative of that function is f'(x) = 2x |
| 09:20.51 | FuriousGeorge | dudes: you obviously have no ocean |
| 09:21.00 | iDunno | dudes: it's 9:20 here, and I've only been in work for 30 mins or so. |
| 09:21.09 | N9URK | if you have f(x) = x^3 the first derivative of that function is f'(x) = 3x^2 |
| 09:21.36 | dudes | I'm at my work station. It's just not 10AM yet for work |
| 09:21.55 | dudes | and I still got a few shots of BV left |
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| 09:22.56 | N9URK | I think I am up and going. THanks for all of your help |
| 09:23.07 | N9URK | this is only my 4th day of using * |
| 09:23.13 | N9URK | so your help is much much appreciated |
| 09:23.27 | iDunno | N9URK: why are we doing calculus in #asterisk? |
| 09:23.39 | dudes | Cause their ignoring me |
| 09:23.47 | N9URK | results from a discussion from earlier and FG's question to me from earlier |
| 09:23.51 | iDunno | dudes: what hte hell is BV? |
| 09:24.00 | dudes | Whisky |
| 09:24.12 | FuriousGeorge | N9URK: later on |
| 09:24.24 | N9URK | I'll be around a few more mins |
| 09:24.46 | dudes | then you'll find the 9milli |
| 09:25.02 | iDunno | dudes: ahh - hmm. not a real whisky, I assume... not a nice single malt scotch... |
| 09:25.11 | FuriousGeorge | N9URK: so will i but i wont be paying attn again, im always here and almost always idle. |
| 09:25.15 | FuriousGeorge | :) |
| 09:25.16 | dudes | it's Canadian |
| 09:25.17 | FuriousGeorge | later |
| 09:25.18 | FuriousGeorge | all |
| 09:25.21 | dudes | But it's smooth |
| 09:25.22 | N9URK | Good night |
| 09:25.43 | iDunno | yeah - that's not real, whisky is scottish and irish, dammit ;) |
| 09:25.51 | iDunno | the rest of them are poor imitations ;) |
| 09:25.53 | dudes | I'd agree |
| 09:26.06 | dudes | But they really don't have much decent shit around here |
| 09:26.22 | dudes | jack and bc are the best |
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| 09:26.29 | dudes | though I like the taste of Jack |
| 09:26.37 | dudes | I should get a liter tomorrow |
| 09:27.09 | dudes | can't dawg jack |
| 09:27.12 | dudes | jack is good |
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| 09:28.03 | dudes | and BV is tasty ... Though I do enjoy R&R (and it's cheaper) I do like BV more. |
| 09:28.49 | uchman | I have a ivr-meny, how do i configure the extension to timeout if there is no input for 10s and goto blah? |
| 09:29.15 | dudes | you'd need to show application [app] |
| 09:29.25 | dudes | you can normally set a timeout based on this app or that app |
| 09:29.54 | dudes | or just response timeout |
| 09:30.17 | dudes | In the event you simply use background/playback or whatnot |
| 09:31.09 | dudes | exten => s,5,Set(TIMEOUT(response)=90) --- 90 being whatever you want |
| 09:31.29 | uchman | exten => 400,1,Answer |
| 09:31.29 | uchman | exten => 400,2,SetMusicOnHold(default) |
| 09:31.29 | uchman | exten => 400,3,DigitTimeout,5 |
| 09:31.29 | uchman | exten => 400,4,ResponseTimeout,10 |
| 09:31.29 | uchman | exten => 400,5,Background(new/ny) |
| 09:31.53 | dudes | exten => s,1,Set(TIMEOUT(digit)=10|TIMEOUT(response)=15) |
| 09:32.25 | uchman | What's the difference? |
| 09:33.03 | dudes | digit ... response |
| 09:33.23 | dudes | I hit a _____ ... and I can wait ________ |
| 09:34.00 | dudes | so if I don't hit a digit in 10 ... it timesout cause there was no response |
| 09:34.37 | iDunno | in 15. |
| 09:34.46 | dudes | Whatever you set it to |
| 09:34.49 | iDunno | oh, no, you're right ;) |
| 09:34.55 | dudes | I know =) |
| 09:35.05 | iDunno | sorry - read what you'd plonked wrong - eye's aren't quite caffienated yet :) |
| 09:35.18 | dudes | I know that feeling |
| 09:35.20 | dudes | hehe |
| 09:35.35 | dudes | I stay away from irc for half or more |
| 09:35.43 | dudes | gotten wait for the coffee to kick me |
| 09:35.52 | dudes | then it's on like donkey kong |
| 09:36.02 | dudes | or I clean my house instead of working |
| 09:36.55 | uchman | dudes, So i can use 400,3,Set(TIMEOUT(digit)=10|TIMEOUT(response)=15)? |
| 09:37.51 | iDunno | heh |
| 09:38.36 | uchman | haha. Nice. No Application. |
| 09:38.38 | uchman | Whatever. |
| 09:40.20 | uchman | Dec 29 10:39:43 WARNING[5615]: pbx.c:1952 ast_pbx_run: Timeout, but no rule 't' in context 'bleh' |
| 09:41.07 | dudes | uchman - what * are you using |
| 09:41.29 | uchman | Asterisk 1.0.8-BRIstuffed-0.2.0-RC8h |
| 09:41.55 | dudes | Set works /w head as I know so if it doesn't work |
| 09:43.53 | N9URK | How can I get * to play Music on hold while it is performing a eten=> system(blah blah blah) ? |
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| 09:45.02 | iDunno | that's what Background is for. |
| 09:45.20 | Kumbang | what should be the problem with these |
| 09:45.26 | Kumbang | Dec 28 12:26:56 WARNING[25784] chan_zap.c: No D-channels available! Using Prima |
| 09:45.26 | Kumbang | ry on channel anyway 47! |
| 09:45.26 | Kumbang | Dec 28 12:26:56 WARNING[25784] chan_zap.c: PRI Error: We think we're the CPE, bu |
| 09:45.39 | Kumbang | t they think they're the CPE too. |
| 09:45.51 | iDunno | you've got no D-channels, must be bad. |
| 09:46.07 | dudes | considering they're not configured ... |
| 09:46.12 | Kumbang | bad card? |
| 09:46.18 | dudes | bad config |
| 09:46.56 | Kumbang | i think the configs should fine |
| 09:47.08 | Kumbang | signalling=pri_cpe |
| 09:47.14 | dudes | if there is no dchan it's probably a config issue |
| 09:47.34 | dudes | and use pastebin.ca or your httpd instead of flooding chan |
| 09:47.43 | N9URK | Idunno, I am wanting it to play the files I have in the mohmp3 directory while it is performing the next commands, am I SOL on that one? |
| 09:48.15 | Kumbang | ok which part of config |
| 09:48.25 | Kumbang | zaptel.conf , dchan=47 |
| 09:49.03 | Kumbang | zapata.conf , signalling=pri_cpe |
| 09:49.10 | dudes | I actually have a hard time taking to serious /w your name |
| 09:49.11 | Kumbang | should i set to pri_net |
| 09:49.21 | Kumbang | hahahhaha |
| 09:49.47 | Kumbang | annoying huh |
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| 09:51.29 | dudes | immature may be more inline |
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| 09:52.40 | Kumbang | i just dont get it, why the telco insists that they are the cpe too |
| 09:53.05 | dudes | perhaps you should ask them since they seem to kumbang |
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| 09:53.23 | iDunno | why shouldn't they? :) |
| 09:53.42 | Kumbang | that's what the log say |
| 09:54.35 | dudes | Either you have an issue with config or a f'ed up teleco |
| 09:55.02 | Kumbang | maybe TE11XP dont fully compatible with the telco, it works fine with E100P |
| 09:56.18 | dudes | no |
| 09:56.37 | Kumbang | why only E100P, what happened with TE11XP |
| 09:56.55 | dudes | I've had a single box /w 5 TE410's talking to the teleco |
| 09:57.04 | dudes | It's your config |
| 09:57.16 | dudes | or your teleco |
| 09:57.55 | Kumbang | looks, i just changed card E100p with TE11XP |
| 09:58.30 | Kumbang | i think config doesnt matter, why should i change the configs |
| 09:59.37 | dudes | Your name troubles me ... |
| 09:59.49 | dudes | comeon, Kumbang (what is that) |
| 10:00.09 | Kumbang | dont make me talking dirty please... |
| 10:00.31 | Kumbang | im serious |
| 10:00.43 | dudes | Go figure |
| 10:00.56 | dudes | Hey, how about I talk dirty cause I'm such a bad ass pimp |
| 10:01.39 | Kumbang | should i turn to sangoma |
| 10:02.06 | coppice | it has nothing to do with the card |
| 10:02.18 | Kumbang | so... |
| 10:02.21 | dudes | If you want to turn to sangoma you should |
| 10:02.25 | dudes | cause yea |
| 10:02.50 | dudes | But Digium cards are good and if they don't work ... well you should've paid for support |
| 10:03.18 | Kumbang | fyi, the telco is lucent 5ess switch with E1 interface, i dont know that module they're using |
| 10:04.16 | dudes | and that's our issue Kumbang |
| 10:04.16 | coppice | if they insist on being the CPE, then be the CO end and off you go |
| 10:05.32 | trixter | ya know www.listyourself.net is pretty painless.. suprised that a free service like that would be so painless (I used a disposable email account, wonder if it will start to see more spam) ... for a free service I recommend it! |
| 10:05.49 | trixter | although they seemed to have issues with my NCFA number in the UK |
| 10:07.28 | trixter | I am curious how they are able to do this for so many countries, the national registry in north america is fairly painless but I could see real issues in foreign countries |
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| 10:14.07 | FuriousGeorge | is figureitout a valid vulue for nat= in sip.conf? |
| 10:14.31 | trixter | heh |
| 10:22.03 | FuriousGeorge | seriously though, it would be good |
| 10:23.00 | dudes | they need a auto setting for nat |
| 10:23.10 | dudes | not need (but it'd be nice) |
| 10:23.13 | FuriousGeorge | why should i have to have two accounts per user. especially with the implications for how quirky sip clients handle the multiple accounts |
| 10:23.16 | dudes | for a hosted situation |
| 10:23.37 | FuriousGeorge | anyway, good night all |
| 10:23.43 | ManxPower | Um, nat=yes really means figure it out. |
| 10:24.15 | dudes | that makes sense' |
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| 10:25.13 | saitech | i am having a problem with "chan_sip". It keeps looping messages like "Failed to grab lock... trying again" and when it does, it kindda hangs on the sip channel, until the loops stops after 5-10 secs. Need help badly. |
| 10:25.51 | ManxPower | saitech, I've never heard of that problem. What version of Asterisk are you using? |
| 10:26.02 | dudes | I was wonder that too |
| 10:26.21 | saitech | asterisk 1.2.1 |
| 10:26.58 | saitech | it is vry difficult to find anything about in the mailing list. i have seen an old bug report with the problem, but it from 2003 january, so i cant really use it. |
| 10:27.10 | saitech | i am using gentoo with a 2.6.14 kernel. |
| 10:28.37 | saitech | i had the same problem on the same machine with centos 4.2 |
| 10:29.01 | saitech | i am using asterisk 1.2 beta1 on a similar machine. Here i am not having the same problem. |
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| 10:31.23 | puzzled | morning |
| 10:31.24 | dudes | I've never heard of tha tissue |
| 10:31.45 | dudes | perhaps looking in chan_sip for that error or turning on better debug and such |
| 10:34.45 | saitech | i have looked, but i dont fully understand the chan_sip code :/ |
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| 11:09.42 | oej | saitech: You need to provide more information about what is happening within your asterisk that causes these locks, provide debugging information. |
| 11:10.49 | dudes | and using pastebin |
| 11:14.46 | ManxPower | Ugh. I am reminded yet again that I am not a math.geek. |
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| 11:15.34 | antonios | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:16.23 | antonios | hello, I upgraded my asterisk to 1.2.1 and I get No D-channels available! Using Primary channel 16 as D-channel anyway! every second or so, any ideas? |
| 11:17.42 | dudes | check sourse or move back to prior |
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| 11:30.39 | Mimmus | hi, does anyone know if there are suggested values for jitterbuffers in zapata.conf? |
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| 11:36.16 | Vijay | anyone installed asterisk 1.2on gentoo 2005 |
| 11:37.17 | Vijay | has anyone installed asterisk 1.2 on gentoo 2005?, i am facing some issues in regards to the same, let me know if you have done the same then i would like to take few suggestion from you |
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| 11:42.47 | ManxPower | Vijay, Why do you believe your problem is unique to Gentoo? |
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| 11:43.31 | ManxPower | antonios, I cannot think of any reason for that. Updgrading should not cause that problem. |
| 11:44.12 | Vijay | because when i installed it on fedora, it was working fine |
| 11:44.27 | Vijay | i have copied and pasted all the conf files |
| 11:44.33 | ManxPower | Vijay, What SPECIFIC problem are you having? |
| 11:45.37 | Vijay | i have configured asterisk 1.2, now when i send the calls from my voip device to asterisk server to dial any internal extension, it does not work |
| 11:45.49 | Vijay | and simply transfer this to the voice mail |
| 11:46.20 | ManxPower | Any error message on the console? |
| 11:46.55 | Vijay | no error message |
| 11:47.14 | ManxPower | put the CLI output of a failed call on pastebin.ca |
| 11:47.34 | Vijay | i just do it |
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| 11:47.55 | ManxPower | and paste the URL of the information to this channel. |
| 11:49.01 | Vijay | just switching on my system |
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| 12:07.38 | fulgas | hey |
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| 12:20.02 | MarkTV | Any1 having experiences with vlines 120 ? |
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| 12:21.33 | telenieko | Hi ppl. On Debian, when compilling zaptel-source, how can I enable Bristuff ?¿ thanks :) |
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| 12:24.30 | ManxPower | telenieko, BRIstuff is not part of the stock zaptel. |
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| 12:24.53 | ManxPower | Check the Wiki for where you can download zaptel+BRIStuff |
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| 12:27.45 | telenieko | ManxPower I know, but on the debian's zaptel-source it is bundled, but it says "disabled" with no clues on how to re-enable ;( |
| 12:27.58 | telenieko | bristuff-0.3.0 I think |
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| 12:28.06 | viperdude | exit |
| 12:28.08 | ManxPower | telenieko, I can't help you with distro specific stuff |
| 12:28.08 | viperdude | quit |
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| 12:28.18 | telenieko | ManxPower thx anyway ;)) |
| 12:28.24 | morale | apt-get source zaptel && cd zaptel-* && make && make install |
| 12:28.53 | ManxPower | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:28.57 | telenieko | morale I did: apt-get install zaptel-source; m-a a-i zaptel :) |
| 12:29.01 | morale | that just builds it |
| 12:29.14 | morale | bri stuff? hold on |
| 12:29.33 | ManxPower | remember, distro packages are always horribly out of date and buggy. |
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| 12:29.36 | telenieko | morale if you look at zaptel-source changelog you'll see "Disabled bristuff" :o |
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| 12:30.02 | telenieko | ManxPower debian ones seem to work well except of that bristuff issue :) |
| 12:30.03 | morale | what version of zaptel source? |
| 12:30.15 | ManxPower | telenieko, what version of zaptel does it have? |
| 12:30.32 | morale | 1.2.1 says nothing about it |
| 12:30.40 | morale | even better download it from ftp.digium.com |
| 12:31.23 | fugitivo | distros are buggy and out of date! |
| 12:31.26 | fugitivo | use lfs! |
| 12:31.30 | telenieko | 1.2.1 and bristuff 0.3.0 |
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| 12:42.11 | kippi | hey |
| 12:42.41 | kippi | If I have [internal] exten => 1001,1,Macro(extensions,${EXTEN},${EXTEN}) to add another extension would I just add exten => 1020,1,Macro(extensions,${EXTEN},${EXTEN}) ? |
| 12:43.58 | ManxPower | kippi, Well, that would depend on macro-extensions |
| 12:44.06 | kippi | where would I find that? |
| 12:44.33 | ManxPower | Hmm? I have no idea. |
| 12:44.51 | kippi | [macro-extensions] |
| 12:44.52 | kippi | exten => s,1,Dial(Sip/${ARG1}|20) |
| 12:44.52 | kippi | exten => s,2,Voicemail(u${ARG2}) |
| 12:44.52 | kippi | exten => s,102,Voicemail(b${ARG2}) |
| 12:44.54 | ManxPower | I don't think it's part of the sample config files |
| 12:45.24 | ManxPower | So what's the problem? |
| 12:45.52 | kippi | so to add another extension i would just add exten => 1020,1,Macro(extensions,${EXTEN},${EXTEN}) |
| 12:46.18 | ManxPower | No. |
| 12:46.54 | ManxPower | What do you want to add another extension TO? You want to ring two extensions at the same time? |
| 12:47.37 | fugitivo | i think he wants to know how to use that macro |
| 12:47.40 | kippi | I just want another exenstion like all the other ones |
| 12:47.53 | ManxPower | kippi, I do not understand your question. |
| 12:48.08 | fugitivo | kippi: it's ok how you wrote it |
| 12:48.10 | theNOTO | Has anyone used both the Aastra 480i and the Polycom 501 and could give me a comparison of the two? |
| 12:49.34 | tzanger | theNOTO: I have heard that they are both very good phones. |
| 12:50.03 | theNOTO | tzanger: Yeah, I am trying to decide between the two |
| 12:50.06 | tzanger | so much so that those are the only two phones I'd think of using for office use, cisco notwithstanding (too expensive) |
| 12:50.20 | ManxPower | I use Polycom |
| 12:50.29 | theNOTO | tzanger: I have heard the Aastra's are having some problems with recent firmware |
| 12:50.32 | ManxPower | Aastra is a pretty recent product. |
| 12:50.39 | ManxPower | (well Aastra SIP) |
| 12:51.14 | tzanger | well aastra is also a very very good POTS phone (I use their PT390s all the time) so I know they have the phone bits down pat (weight, feel, etc.). I've never tried either though, I always use POTS phones :-) |
| 12:51.18 | theNOTO | ManxPower: which polycom model? |
| 12:51.37 | ManxPower | theNOTO, IP 30x, 50x, 60x |
| 12:52.07 | tzanger | polycom is world-renowned for their POTS and digital (KSU/PBX) speakerphones and video phones (we have their super-expensive VSX7000 at work) |
| 12:52.10 | theNOTO | ManxPower: Is the 30x a big step down from the 50x series? |
| 12:52.16 | ManxPower | theNOTO, yes. |
| 12:52.29 | theNOTO | ManxPower: that's what i had heard |
| 12:52.36 | fugitivo | price too |
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| 13:01.51 | yxa | u cannot talk using 301 speakerfone |
| 13:02.11 | tzanger | 301 does not have a speakerphone IIRC |
| 13:02.15 | yxa | and POE support is not native |
| 13:02.31 | yxa | it does, the speakerphone is just one-way for listening only |
| 13:02.53 | yxa | other than that, i think polycom has the best sound quality |
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| 13:05.30 | theNOTO | I had heard Polycom's voice quality was the best |
| 13:05.49 | theNOTO | maybe i should just stick with POTS phones for now |
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| 13:10.40 | RoyK | morning |
| 13:11.57 | coppice | RoyK: do you have much snow there? it seems further south had quite a bit these last 2 days |
| 13:12.57 | Mimmus | hi, does anyone know if there are suggested values for jitterbuffers in zapata.conf? |
| 13:12.58 | RoyK | not really a lot |
| 13:13.01 | RoyK | at least not here in oslo |
| 13:14.36 | coppice | RoyK: I am abandoning work on T.38 for *. the initial passthrough stuff has languished in the bugs blackhole for nearly 4 months. I've lost interest |
| 13:15.02 | RoyK | seriously_ |
| 13:15.04 | RoyK | ? |
| 13:15.06 | fugitivo | coppice: why? |
| 13:15.10 | RoyK | what can be done to mend this? |
| 13:15.30 | fugitivo | people? money? women? |
| 13:15.33 | coppice | bugs.digium.com only seems to exist to piss people off |
| 13:16.27 | RoyK | s/bugs\.(\w+)\.com/$1/ ? |
| 13:16.38 | fugitivo | lol |
| 13:16.40 | fugitivo | that's true |
| 13:17.12 | ManxPower | coppice, contribute it to OpenPBX |
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| 13:17.38 | coppice | its in openpbx already |
| 13:17.44 | ManxPower | coppice, Ah. |
| 13:18.08 | ManxPower | add a note with that info on your bugs.digium.com entry 8-) |
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| 13:22.48 | coppice | maybe digium aren't very interested in the whole setup, since it requires spandsp, which is GPL. you'd think someone might at least show a little enthusiam for passthrough, though |
| 13:24.57 | ManxPower | coppice, passthru should not need spandsp, should it? |
| 13:25.17 | coppice | no. the contributed code is all that is needed |
| 13:25.35 | Mimmus | hi, if my interlocutors on analog phones hear my voice from VoIP phone with very bad quality, where can look for problems? |
| 13:25.37 | RoyK | disclaimed? |
| 13:25.52 | ManxPower | interlocutors? |
| 13:26.08 | Mimmus | ManxPower: no? sorry for my bad english |
| 13:26.14 | ManxPower | Mimmus, using MeetMe? What SIP phone? |
| 13:26.26 | Mimmus | ManxPower: no no, during a normal call |
| 13:26.28 | fugitivo | Mimmus: network latency, codecs, microphone, network cable |
| 13:26.33 | RoyK | 'where can i look for problems' |
| 13:26.39 | ManxPower | Mimmus, What VoIP device? |
| 13:27.05 | Mimmus | ManxPower: thanks, I have an Atcom AT-320 (made in China) VoIP phone |
| 13:27.19 | fugitivo | Mimmus: THAT'S THE PROBLEM |
| 13:27.20 | fugitivo | lol |
| 13:27.25 | fugitivo | that phone is crap |
| 13:27.38 | ManxPower | Mimmus, Many things can cause the problem you experience. |
| 13:27.46 | fugitivo | ManxPower: it's the phone |
| 13:27.52 | Mimmus | fugitivo: i think so too! it seems that handset+microphone work very well |
| 13:27.56 | ManxPower | fugitivo, Um, many people use those phones. |
| 13:28.00 | fugitivo | Mimmus: are you using iax or sip? |
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| 13:28.06 | Mimmus | fugitivo: SIP |
| 13:28.08 | fugitivo | ManxPower: i have one of those here in my desktop |
| 13:28.23 | fugitivo | Mimmus: are you using qualify=yes ? |
| 13:28.46 | Mimmus | fugitivo: in sip.conf? |
| 13:28.51 | ManxPower | Mimmus, If there is an option to select Audio Packet Size, set it to 20ms. Many phones use 30ms packet size. 30ms will cause audio problems. |
| 13:28.52 | fugitivo | yes |
| 13:29.04 | Mimmus | fugitivo: no, always qualify=no |
| 13:29.10 | fugitivo | set it to yes |
| 13:29.17 | Mimmus | fugitivo: what is this? |
| 13:29.32 | fugitivo | i want to know how many ms you have from asterisk to the phone |
| 13:29.48 | Mimmus | ManxPower: ok, I will check in a few seconds... |
| 13:31.47 | zoa2 | coppice didnt you disclaim spandsp ? |
| 13:31.47 | coppice | nope |
| 13:31.48 | coppice | you may not use spandsp with *, if you are using * outside the GPL. that means no G.729 or openh323 |
| 13:31.48 | Mimmus | ManxPower: I have 'audio frames=2', 'jitter size=0' |
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| 13:32.51 | fugitivo | Mimmus: did you set qualify=yes? |
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| 13:33.01 | pakipenguin | evening |
| 13:33.06 | fugitivo | morning |
| 13:33.13 | RoyK | afternoon |
| 13:33.23 | Mimmus | fugitivo: no, what is this option? I have 2-2.5 ms from asterisk to phone |
| 13:33.59 | fugitivo | Mimmus: it will show the status of the phone when doing sip show peers |
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| 13:34.40 | littleball | hello, i have install asterisk 1.2.1, i try to use postgresql to store cdr. but i cannot find any cdr record in the cdr table. any idea? |
| 13:34.45 | Phrog123 | folks, |
| 13:34.51 | Mimmus | fugitivo: ah, ok, it is for this reason I have 'Status: unmonitored' |
| 13:34.57 | fugitivo | Mimmus: right |
| 13:35.07 | Phrog123 | is there a way to have asterisk not pick-up a line if it has been picked up outside of asterisk. |
| 13:35.22 | fugitivo | littleball: did you setup cdr_pgsql.conf? |
| 13:35.29 | littleball | fugitivo, yues |
| 13:35.34 | littleball | i set it already |
| 13:35.42 | Phrog123 | i.e. I have a couple of pots phone at home, I put wait(12) in case my wife picks up pots, but the darn wcfxo picks up the line after 4 rings |
| 13:36.11 | fugitivo | littleball: show modules like cdr_pgsql |
| 13:36.16 | fugitivo | do you have the module loaded? |
| 13:36.35 | Phrog123 | Is there a way to have asterisk check for a ring tone just before answering and if it does not see a ring, it sleeps? |
| 13:36.51 | littleball | fugitivo, do you mean lsmod? |
| 13:37.00 | fugitivo | littleball: no, from the CLI |
| 13:37.02 | Mimmus | fugitivo: I set qualify for all sip extensions |
| 13:37.09 | fugitivo | littleball: run this "show modules like cdr_pgsql" |
| 13:37.12 | fugitivo | without the " |
| 13:38.27 | littleball | no |
| 13:38.37 | littleball | it is not there |
| 13:38.44 | fugitivo | then it'll not work |
| 13:38.55 | fugitivo | the problem is that with the new version of asterisk, that module is obsolete |
| 13:39.00 | fugitivo | you have to enable it at compilation time |
| 13:39.05 | fugitivo | or use odbc |
| 13:39.08 | littleball | but i configure it already . then how to fix it? |
| 13:39.17 | littleball | ok |
| 13:39.28 | littleball | odbc for postgresql? |
| 13:39.30 | fugitivo | i don't know why they did that |
| 13:40.32 | littleball | which configuration file i should change? |
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| 13:42.03 | MarkTV | Hi all. Just got a vlines120 (IAX2), Outbound calls is working fine, but inbound calls wont work...any ideas ? |
| 13:42.29 | RoyK | littleball: you prolly need the postgresql developer package to have asterisk make that module |
| 13:42.45 | littleball | RoyK, i compile postgresql myself |
| 13:42.50 | RoyK | ok |
| 13:43.02 | Mimmus | fugitivo: now I'm seeing an unreal high value (195 ms) |
| 13:43.16 | RoyK | do a make clean in asterisk, make all &> logfile and look through the logfile for postgres stuff |
| 13:43.58 | littleball | RoyK, i can have a try |
| 13:43.58 | RoyK | mimmus: that qualify value is the time it takes before the client answers some SIP OPTION packages, IIRC |
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| 13:44.50 | Mimmus | RoyK: other extensions have 1,2 ms! |
| 13:45.10 | RoyK | Mimmus: whatever. some clients take their time |
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| 13:45.19 | PoWeRKiLL | Someone use phpagi with asterisk 1.2.1 ? |
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| 13:45.48 | Mimmus | RoyK: ok, am I worryng without reasons? |
| 13:45.59 | RoyK | probably, yes |
| 13:46.00 | MarkTV | PHPAGI works perfect with my 1.2.1 |
| 13:46.12 | RoyK | Mimmus: i usually set qualify to 5000 |
| 13:46.31 | MarkTV | why ? |
| 13:46.44 | Mimmus | RoyK: I'm trying to investigate some bad behaviour of my phones |
| 13:46.53 | RoyK | because a value of 2000 may cause clients on a figgin LAN to become 'unreachable' |
| 13:47.06 | Mimmus | and <fugitivo> suggested me to look at this value |
| 13:47.08 | RoyK | prolly something in the asterisk code that's quite bad |
| 13:47.40 | PoWeRKiLL | MarkTV I can't get DIALSTATUS variable anymore one * 1.2.1 and it was working on 1.2.0 any idea ? |
| 13:47.56 | RoyK | wtf? |
| 13:47.57 | PoWeRKiLL | MarkTV I get error Invalid or unknown command |
| 13:47.58 | RoyK | PoWeRKiLL: sure? |
| 13:48.09 | fugitivo | Mimmus: i have the same problem with that phone |
| 13:48.10 | PoWeRKiLL | RoyK: yes |
| 13:48.42 | fugitivo | Mimmus: if you use the iax firmware, you'll se that number lower |
| 13:48.42 | Mimmus | fugitivo: well, next time I will buy Grandstream phones |
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| 13:49.00 | fugitivo | it seems the firmware of that phone isn't well developed |
| 13:49.30 | Mimmus | fugitivo: yes, in fact there was v.1.47 but now they come back to 1.43 |
| 13:50.02 | Mimmus | fugitivo: and v.149 is coming |
| 13:50.02 | fugitivo | and if you use jitterbuffer with the lastest iax firmware, the phone won't pickup the calls |
| 13:50.05 | RoyK | PoWeRKiLL: how do you try it? what do you try to do? |
| 13:50.23 | MarkTV | PoWeRKiLL wait i'll take a look |
| 13:50.34 | RoyK | PoWeRKiLL: i got this when i dialed a dummy client |
| 13:50.39 | RoyK | . |
| 13:50.43 | Mimmus | fugitivo: can I set jitterbuffer=0 or there is some controindication? |
| 13:51.06 | fugitivo | Mimmus: what do you have now/ |
| 13:51.07 | RoyK | -- Executing NoOp("Zap/1-1", "CHANUNAVAIL") in new stack |
| 13:51.16 | RoyK | seems to me dialstatus works...... |
| 13:51.25 | Mimmus | fugitivo: default, 4 I think in zapata.conf |
| 13:51.36 | PoWeRKiLL | try to get via DIALSTATUS |
| 13:51.37 | fugitivo | Mimmus: but that's for zaptel |
| 13:51.48 | fugitivo | Mimmus: that's not the problem you're having |
| 13:52.00 | PoWeRKiLL | try to get DIALSTATUS via phpagi |
| 13:52.01 | Mimmus | fugitivo: sorry, it was a mistake |
| 13:52.15 | littleball | fugitivo and RoyK, i think cdr.c give me some idea |
| 13:52.16 | RoyK | PoWeRKiLL: that was from a NoOp(${DIALSTATUS}) |
| 13:52.20 | littleball | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:52.20 | littleball | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:52.20 | littleball | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:52.20 | littleball | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:52.20 | littleball | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:52.23 | littleball | ze, batchtime); |
| 13:52.24 | littleball | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:52.26 | littleball | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:52.27 | Mimmus | fugitivo: I have default value |
| 13:52.28 | littleball | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:52.29 | RoyK | ~pb |
| 13:52.31 | jbot | rumour has it, pb is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.com/, or http://pastebin.ca |
| 13:52.41 | littleball | sorry, i should paster it there |
| 13:52.43 | fugitivo | Mimmus: the problem is from atcom320 -> pstn ? |
| 13:52.45 | PoWeRKiLL | I get error Invalid or unknown command from res_agi when running GET VARIABLE DIALSTATUS |
| 13:53.14 | fugitivo | littleball: do you have postgresql installed? |
| 13:53.16 | Mimmus | fugitivo: yes, users at pstn hear bad quality voice |
| 13:53.22 | littleball | of course, fugitivo, |
| 13:54.02 | littleball | the log message of /var/log/asterisk/messages show "CDR simple logging enabled" |
| 13:54.14 | littleball | i think i should enable batchmode |
| 13:54.24 | littleball | and set the batchtime to zero |
| 13:54.45 | Mimmus | fugitivo: and at atcom320 I hear some echo and lag |
| 13:55.33 | littleball | fugitivo, i think the only way to log this message is due to batchmode is false |
| 13:55.44 | littleball | let me try now |
| 13:58.00 | fugitivo | Mimmus: did you try another phone? |
| 13:58.11 | fugitivo | Mimmus: a regular phone with an ata? |
| 13:58.19 | Mimmus | fugitivo: only softphones, and it seems that they are ok |
| 13:58.49 | Mimmus | fugitivo: next days, I will buy a Grandstream |
| 13:59.32 | Mimmus | fugitivo: in the meanwhile, I'm upgrading to * 1.2.1 and changing Dgium E1 card with a Sangom! |
| 13:59.51 | fugitivo | why are you changing the digium e1? |
| 14:00.23 | Mimmus | fugitivo: to eliminate any doubt! |
| 14:00.26 | PoWeRKiLL | I get error Invalid or unknown command from res_agi when running GET VARIABLE DIALSTATUS from PHPAGI |
| 14:02.38 | RoyK | PoWeRKiLL: can you retreive other variables_ |
| 14:02.39 | RoyK | ? |
| 14:02.50 | PoWeRKiLL | no |
| 14:03.15 | PoWeRKiLL | I try to get other variable same error |
| 14:03.17 | littleball | fugitivo, still cannot |
| 14:03.41 | littleball | i just don't understand why asterisk always use csv format to store cdr |
| 14:03.44 | ManxPower | PoWeRKiLL, what version of Asterisk? |
| 14:03.50 | RoyK | PoWeRKiLL: res_agi error? |
| 14:05.39 | fugitivo | littleball: type "cdr status" on the cli |
| 14:05.56 | littleball | ok |
| 14:06.18 | fugitivo | the problem is that you don't have cdr_pgsql.so |
| 14:06.29 | PoWeRKiLL | 1.2.1 |
| 14:06.34 | littleball | i think the one you are interested is CDR registered backend: csv |
| 14:06.37 | *** join/#asterisk saftsack (n=oliver@p54A7D1AA.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 14:06.40 | littleball | "CDR registered backend: csv" |
| 14:06.45 | saftsack | hi |
| 14:06.51 | PoWeRKiLL | this error came from GET VARIABLE variablename |
| 14:06.58 | saftsack | someone who has the grandstream budge tel 101? |
| 14:06.59 | fugitivo | littleball: did you compile from source? |
| 14:07.04 | iCEBrkr | yo |
| 14:07.04 | littleball | fugitivo, yes |
| 14:07.25 | littleball | why? |
| 14:07.50 | RoyK | littleball: did you look through the compile log_ |
| 14:07.51 | RoyK | ? |
| 14:07.51 | littleball | i download asterisk-1.2.1 from asterisk.org |
| 14:08.07 | littleball | let me do now. RoyK |
| 14:08.08 | fugitivo | littleball: if you don't have that module, it didn't find your pgsql files for compiling |
| 14:08.17 | ManxPower | PoWeRKiLL, Weird. |
| 14:08.18 | RoyK | littleball: the problem is prolly there |
| 14:08.33 | RoyK | littleball: usually asterisk just can't find the psql headers and skips that section |
| 14:08.40 | mutilator | anyone know if there is a way to get date or something else to do date calcs? |
| 14:08.40 | ManxPower | Can you GET VARIABLE variablenameinglobalsection ? |
| 14:08.42 | mutilator | like date -d now-1day +%F |
| 14:08.52 | fugitivo | littleball: check asterisk-1.2.1/cdr/Makefile to see where asterisk look for the postgresql files |
| 14:08.59 | littleball | RoyK, ok |
| 14:09.09 | fugitivo | mutilator: date command? |
| 14:09.11 | saftsack | g711 is isdn, right, but what is g722? |
| 14:09.22 | ManxPower | saftsack, no, G711 is not ISDN |
| 14:09.30 | saftsack | what is isdn? |
| 14:09.33 | littleball | fugitivo, no |
| 14:09.40 | fugitivo | littleball: no what? |
| 14:09.42 | littleball | it doesnt look for post* |
| 14:09.42 | ManxPower | saftsack, ISDN is a signaling protocol. |
| 14:09.45 | saftsack | ok |
| 14:09.47 | RoyK | saftsack: g.711a and g.711u are the codecs used on isdn |
| 14:09.53 | saftsack | ok :) |
| 14:10.02 | saftsack | but my budgetel 101 doesnt provide g711 |
| 14:10.08 | littleball | futitivo, i search Makefile, no text match post |
| 14:10.12 | saftsack | also tehre arent alaw and ulaw :( |
| 14:10.15 | *** join/#asterisk newl (n=newlook@203-59-61-62.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 14:10.19 | littleball | postgre |
| 14:10.23 | fugitivo | littleball: asterisk-1.2.1/cdr/Makefile?? |
| 14:10.28 | ManxPower | G711 is alaw (aka PCMA) or ulaw (PCMU). This is the "codec" all normal PSTN calls use. |
| 14:10.31 | fugitivo | littleball: search pgsql |
| 14:10.32 | saftsack | yes |
| 14:10.32 | RoyK | saftsack: g.711a == alaw. g.711u == ulaw |
| 14:10.38 | littleball | yes |
| 14:10.39 | saftsack | ok :) |
| 14:10.44 | littleball | it is there |
| 14:10.45 | saftsack | what has better quality? |
| 14:10.48 | saftsack | alaw or ulaw? |
| 14:10.57 | RoyK | same shit |
| 14:11.00 | littleball | /usr/include/postgresql |
| 14:11.07 | ManxPower | saftsack, both are the same. the PSTN in usa/canada uses ulaw, PSTN in most of the rest of the world uses alaw |
| 14:11.07 | fugitivo | littleball: ok, do you have those directories? |
| 14:11.08 | RoyK | saftsack: but ulaw is used in north america |
| 14:11.18 | littleball | no |
| 14:11.20 | saftsack | ok im living in europe ;) |
| 14:11.24 | littleball | this could be the reason? |
| 14:11.26 | fugitivo | littleball: then you don't have postgresql |
| 14:11.29 | RoyK | saftsack: then just stick to alaw |
| 14:11.33 | saftsack | ok :) |
| 14:11.48 | fugitivo | littleball: or you installed postgresql on a non-standard directory |
| 14:11.56 | littleball | futitivo, i have installed it but i think the header file is not in that place |
| 14:12.05 | littleball | yes |
| 14:12.18 | littleball | /usr/local/pgsql/include/ |
| 14:12.20 | RoyK | fugitivo: he prolly installed it in the 'standard' dir, being /usr/local/postgresql or something |
| 14:12.21 | RoyK | yeah |
| 14:12.22 | littleball | is my directory |
| 14:12.32 | RoyK | littleball: just symlink the header files to /usr/local/include |
| 14:12.36 | fugitivo | littleball: find / -name pg_config.h |
| 14:12.37 | littleball | ok |
| 14:12.59 | RoyK | littleball: or /usr/include |
| 14:13.02 | fugitivo | oh, you have it |
| 14:13.02 | littleball | wait |
| 14:13.03 | saftsack | howto control which codec is active? |
| 14:13.04 | RoyK | littleball: just make sure asterisk finds them |
| 14:13.08 | saftsack | sip show peers shows nothing |
| 14:13.12 | fugitivo | RoyK: is that standard? /usr/local? :) |
| 14:13.15 | RoyK | sip show peer |
| 14:13.22 | fugitivo | that's redhat standard ;) |
| 14:13.24 | RoyK | fugitivo: standard from pgsql, yes |
| 14:13.24 | littleball | in Makefile, it seems that it also search for /usr/local/pgsql/include |
| 14:13.31 | RoyK | ok |
| 14:13.32 | saftsack | RoyK, i did it ;) |
| 14:13.36 | saftsack | but nothing |
| 14:13.37 | ManxPower | saftsack, you control it in sip.conf for SIP devices. |
| 14:13.48 | RoyK | saftsack: sip show peer xxxx shows what codecs xxxx is using |
| 14:13.52 | saftsack | ok |
| 14:14.06 | ManxPower | sip show channels will show you the codec for each ACTIVE call. |
| 14:14.26 | littleball | fugitivo, for what purpose to find / -name pg_config.h? |
| 14:15.03 | fugitivo | littleball: none, you already know where your headers are |
| 14:15.17 | saftsack | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:15.22 | littleball | /usr/local/pgsql/include/pg_config.h |
| 14:15.47 | *** join/#asterisk frenzy (n=frenzy@80.255.63.30) |
| 14:15.51 | frenzy | hey all |
| 14:15.53 | fugitivo | well, asterisk already look at that directory for compilation |
| 14:16.05 | frenzy | how do I setup DNID ? |
| 14:16.16 | frenzy | I have calls coming in via IAX |
| 14:16.18 | RoyK | wtf is DNID? |
| 14:16.24 | littleball | fugitivo, so i don't think this is the reason, right? becuause it is there |
| 14:16.50 | frenzy | the number from which the call is coming through |
| 14:17.03 | fugitivo | littleball: ls -la /usr/lib/asterisk/modules/cdr_pgsql.so |
| 14:17.06 | fugitivo | do you have that file? |
| 14:17.46 | ManxPower | frenzy, you don't. It's enabled by default. If the carrier supports it, the call will be sent to the exten => line matching the DID or some part of the DID. |
| 14:18.03 | ManxPower | not all carriers send the DNID info, in which case exten => s is matches |
| 14:18.08 | frenzy | I have it seupt in the same way |
| 14:18.22 | frenzy | but for some reason AGI says Unknown |
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| 14:18.25 | littleball | no |
| 14:18.33 | littleball | futitivo, no |
| 14:19.09 | ManxPower | frenzy, you didn't say you were using AGI. |
| 14:19.18 | littleball | i am recompile again. make clean;make all|tee /tmp/1 |
| 14:19.38 | frenzy | my bad :( |
| 14:19.54 | ManxPower | AGI should always have the EXTEN (DNID) available in the info sent to the AGI when it starts. |
| 14:20.13 | littleball | fugitivo, after recompile, still cannot find this file. do i need to enter cdr directory to make |
| 14:20.14 | littleball | ? |
| 14:20.51 | iCEBrkr | littleball: Do you have postgres-devel installed? |
| 14:20.53 | frenzy | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:21.23 | littleball | got it already |
| 14:21.34 | iCEBrkr | littleball: Then what's failing? |
| 14:21.53 | littleball | iCEBrkr, i got this file(stupid error when i recompile, i forget to use root to make install |
| 14:22.01 | littleball | let me try now |
| 14:22.06 | fugitivo | ... |
| 14:24.04 | ManxPower | frenzy, you need to talk to the people that wrote a2billing thebn |
| 14:24.49 | littleball | by the way, what is the benifit of RealTime ? |
| 14:25.23 | fugitivo | realtime changes without reloading |
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| 14:26.06 | cfh | has asterisk support for sip "replaces" ? |
| 14:26.09 | De_Mon | I'm using a sip phone with a configured stun server, do I need to do something to point asterisk to the same stun server? |
| 14:26.20 | fugitivo | but it's a little benefit compared to the weight of using a database for your pbx |
| 14:27.25 | De_Mon | have a stun client running on the asterisk machine maybe? I'm not sure how to connect them |
| 14:28.50 | littleball | hi, futitivo, it works now |
| 14:28.52 | littleball | thanks very much |
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| 14:29.45 | Mimmus | today fugitivo is a great resource! |
| 14:31.12 | littleball | anyway, what is the best way to get the cdr data and send them to external program through AGI? |
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| 14:31.48 | frenzy | how do I add extensions to IAX Registrations? |
| 14:31.59 | frenzy | like on SIP simply add /exten |
| 14:32.06 | littleball | currently, i am using exten=>h and DeadAGI |
| 14:33.08 | Mimmus | I configured native MusicOnHold but 'ps -ax' still shows mpg123 processes. How can I disable these? |
| 14:35.20 | iCEBrkr | Mimmus: Sure those processes aren't left over from before you changed it? |
| 14:36.08 | iCEBrkr | littleball: AGI doesn't scale and it's slow as shit |
| 14:36.31 | Katty | i could use support this morning. |
| 14:36.35 | Katty | but it has nothing to do with asterisk. |
| 14:36.42 | iCEBrkr | Katty: You need more than 'support' you need a support group. |
| 14:36.47 | Katty | iCEBrkr: i know. |
| 14:36.58 | Katty | iCEBrkr: but my batch script keeps imploding. |
| 14:37.00 | iCEBrkr | Katty: How about you stand up and introduce yourself to everyone? |
| 14:37.09 | Katty | iCEBrkr: i did that /ages/ ago. |
| 14:37.17 | iCEBrkr | Maybe you should try again? |
| 14:37.23 | Katty | standing takes too much effort. |
| 14:37.28 | iCEBrkr | Agreed |
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| 14:38.55 | P4C0 | hello guys, me again... asterisk fails to re-registry with my sip provider: wrong password |
| 14:39.00 | littleball | iCEBrkr, AGI is not so slow. i am using AGI(agi://.... |
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| 14:39.13 | iCEBrkr | P4C0: Dump that shitty provider and get a real provider :) |
| 14:39.18 | littleball | i am using asterisk-java |
| 14:39.21 | iCEBrkr | littleball: Trust me. It's slow. |
| 14:39.28 | fugitivo | java is slow |
| 14:39.31 | littleball | then what is the best way? |
| 14:39.41 | iCEBrkr | littleball: Depends on what you're trying to do. |
| 14:39.42 | P4C0 | iCEBrkr, naah, it works well with a sip phone and they are using asterisk as well... |
| 14:40.17 | P4C0 | iCEBrkr, i mean I can register and after a while it fails... and keep failing... is like if the re register don't sent the user / pass |
| 14:40.22 | littleball | futitivo, iCEBrkr, i don't think so because AGI only send data to a local loop pipe (local TCP socket), that is all. |
| 14:40.42 | iCEBrkr | P4C0: Well, a lot of people use Asterisk and don't have that problem, so I'm thinking it's your provider :) |
| 14:40.46 | fugitivo | littleball: java is slow, agi is slow, so agi+java will be SLOW |
| 14:40.54 | iCEBrkr | fugitivo: thank you. |
| 14:41.03 | ruza | is there a way how can i delete multiple messages from voicemail ? |
| 14:41.15 | fugitivo | iCEBrkr: you're welcome |
| 14:41.18 | P4C0 | iCEBrkr, maybe the configuration...? |
| 14:41.37 | littleball | and the TCP connection is persistently connectled. Yes, if without agi://..., it is big problem. but by using agi://, it works very well in my 1.09 box |
| 14:41.37 | iCEBrkr | littleball: TRUST me on this, mmk? I've been dealing with AGI for the past few months and it's dog slow when you're trying to scale your system. |
| 14:41.47 | fugitivo | ruza: rm -rf /var/asterisk/spool/voicemail/extension/folder/* |
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| 14:41.55 | saftsack | hi |
| 14:41.56 | littleball | iCEBrkr, are you using asterisk-java? |
| 14:42.02 | iCEBrkr | littleball: It doesn't MATTER |
| 14:42.02 | saftsack | i have a problem and its gross :( |
| 14:42.10 | fugitivo | errrr |
| 14:42.13 | iCEBrkr | littleball: The AGI() call itself is SLOW |
| 14:42.21 | saftsack | every asterisk whcih is compiled says this while starting |
| 14:42.24 | fugitivo | i mean |
| 14:42.32 | fugitivo | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:42.40 | littleball | iCEBrkr, then how to solve such problem (sending channel data to external program) |
| 14:42.46 | iCEBrkr | littleball: Not to mention, you're making a socket connection and then java?! You're nutso |
| 14:42.49 | saftsack | Ouch ... error while writing audio data: : Broken pipe |
| 14:42.49 | saftsack | Warning, flexibel rate not heavily tested! |
| 14:42.52 | fugitivo | ruza: /var/spool/asterisk/voicemail/ |
| 14:43.08 | iCEBrkr | littleball: As I said before, it really depends on what you're trying to do? |
| 14:43.12 | P4C0 | iCEBrkr, when registering, how can I tell asterisk to use the public ip instead of the private? maybe in the reregistering he is using the private ip and my server blocks it...!? |
| 14:43.30 | littleball | iCEBrkr, i think you misunderstand |
| 14:43.45 | fugitivo | littleball: if you have a small scenario, AGI it's ok |
| 14:44.21 | iCEBrkr | littleball: No, I think you misunderstand. |
| 14:45.04 | ruza | fugitivo: can voicemail user do it somehow ? |
| 14:45.11 | iCEBrkr | littleball: I have a $25,000 project that when I started, I was using AGI thinking it'd be OK to use. It is not. |
| 14:45.16 | littleball | iCEBrkr, if what you said is that AGI () writing data to local socket (an existing socket) is proved to be slow, then i agree with you. |
| 14:45.32 | littleball | iCEBrkr, how do you try AGI? |
| 14:45.52 | iCEBrkr | littleball: I had several 5 line PHP scripts that I called via AGI. |
| 14:46.04 | iCEBrkr | littleball: Regardless of the scripts, AGI is slow |
| 14:46.08 | fugitivo | iCEBrkr: how many concurrent calls? |
| 14:46.08 | iCEBrkr | I'm not gonna say it again. |
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| 14:46.17 | iCEBrkr | fugitivo: I need up to 72 |
| 14:46.42 | iCEBrkr | fugitivo: Doesn't matter anymore, as I've since switched to using Corydon's ODBC function stuff |
| 14:46.46 | fugitivo | littleball: iCEBrkr is saying that the function AGI() is slow, not what you execute with AGI |
| 14:46.52 | P4C0 | can I put like sip debug for the registry only!? |
| 14:46.54 | *** join/#asterisk af_ (n=af@ip-142-84.sn1.eutelia.it) |
| 14:47.28 | fugitivo | P4C0: sip debug peer xxx |
| 14:47.42 | iCEBrkr | littleball: I was in your shoes at the begining, I really didn't think AGI() was all that slow and everyone here kept telling me the same thing.... |
| 14:47.57 | ruza | fugitivo: i.e. vmail.cgi ? |
| 14:47.58 | P4C0 | fugitivo, thanks :) |
| 14:48.04 | iCEBrkr | littleball: So, you can do whatever you want. |
| 14:48.11 | fugitivo | ruza: using a web client, yes |
| 14:48.19 | littleball | if you call script, it is definitely slow. in my system, AGI do nothing. It just write to socket and then the external java return immediately and using a seperate thread to process the socket data |
| 14:48.25 | fulgas | agi is quite slow... |
| 14:48.30 | fulgas | i'm also using it |
| 14:48.35 | ruza | fugitivo: great :) |
| 14:48.40 | saftsack | can i start asterisk without the colors just with a white background in the cli? |
| 14:48.52 | iCEBrkr | littleball: I give up on you.. |
| 14:49.03 | fugitivo | saftsack: don't use -c |
| 14:49.28 | iCEBrkr | littleball: You just don't understand.. THE ACTUALLY AGI CALL IS F'N SLOW |
| 14:49.31 | Katty | blast you infernal machine with entirely too much ram! you are /not/ having insufficent memory problems! |
| 14:49.50 | fugitivo | Katty: lol |
| 14:50.05 | littleball | iCEBrkr, if AGI call itself within asterisk is slow, then i agree with you |
| 14:50.24 | iCEBrkr | I've been saying that for the past 20mins |
| 14:50.30 | tRSS | I have one asterisk(A) and two zultys (B and C) ip telephony exchanges. B is able to dial international numbers through C. A is able to dial any extension on B and C but A is not able to dial international numbers through C. Instead C returns a 410 - Gone error. I would appreciate some help on it? |
| 14:50.34 | P4C0 | humm strange, the reregistration when ok |
| 14:50.46 | littleball | iCEBrkr, what is your solution then? |
| 14:51.03 | iCEBrkr | littleball: I have no solution cuz you won't explain to me what you're trying to do.. Which I've asked 3 times now |
| 14:51.29 | littleball | iCEBrkr, i just want to pass channel parameters to my external program |
| 14:51.37 | iCEBrkr | Oh, descriptive. |
| 14:51.42 | littleball | some channel parameters are defined by myself. |
| 14:51.47 | iCEBrkr | WTF are you trying to do? |
| 14:51.50 | iCEBrkr | ya know what |
| 14:51.50 | iCEBrkr | fuck it |
| 14:52.07 | P4C0 | how can I put my public ip in here: Via: SIP/2.0/UDP 192.168.6.10:5060 !? |
| 14:52.10 | littleball | e.g., callerid, ... |
| 14:52.39 | fugitivo | iCEBrkr: hey, don't start being a jerk :) |
| 14:53.06 | iCEBrkr | I have high regard for intelligence and no tolorance for ignorance |
| 14:53.12 | littleball | agi://localhost/mobmeee.agi?seconds=foo${allocatedcallingseconds}&duration=foo${DIALEDTIME}&billsec=foo${ |
| 14:53.12 | littleball | ANSWEREDTIME}&accountcode=foo${ACCOUNTCODE}&src=foo${CALLERIDNUM}&dst=foo${legb}) |
| 14:53.15 | frenzy | forsome reason IAX calls DNID's are not being collected by AGI |
| 14:53.18 | littleball | this is example |
| 14:53.18 | iCEBrkr | Don't ask for help if you're not going to take it. |
| 14:53.44 | littleball | i am using agi to pass some parameters to external program |
| 14:54.06 | iCEBrkr | WTF does your external program do.. ( I asked again.. this is 5th time ) |
| 14:54.07 | frenzy | ? |
| 14:54.41 | littleball | iCEBrkr, it is web based application which trigger the call and then receive the parameters passed back from agi |
| 14:54.52 | iCEBrkr | Sounds retarded to me. |
| 14:54.57 | iCEBrkr | But without knowing the details. |
| 14:55.03 | iCEBrkr | I can't help you make it the right way |
| 14:55.11 | iCEBrkr | You keep spewing vague descriptions |
| 14:55.21 | xheliox | lol |
| 14:55.33 | iCEBrkr | It's like talking to a Magic 8-Ball |
| 14:55.33 | xheliox | This conversation haven't been informative, but it's been amusing. |
| 14:55.39 | xheliox | hasn't* |
| 14:56.06 | littleball | iCEBrkr, i think it is so clear. i need asterisk to pass some parameters to my external program which need using such parameters to process or bill users etc |
| 14:56.14 | iCEBrkr | NO JACKASS |
| 14:56.19 | iCEBrkr | What's your end-goal |
| 14:56.26 | iCEBrkr | Who cares about passing data |
| 14:56.37 | littleball | that is all what i need |
| 14:56.50 | iCEBrkr | where's the ignore button on this thing? |
| 14:57.02 | tRSS | I have one asterisk(A) and two zultys (B and C) ip telephony exchanges. B is able to dial international numbers through C. A is able to dial any extension on B and C but A is not able to dial international numbers through C. Instead C returns a 410 - Gone error. I would appreciate some help on it? What causes a "410 - Gone" error? |
| 14:57.20 | iCEBrkr | (09:55)Ignoring ALL from *!*@*.sg |
| 14:57.29 | fugitivo | littleball: describe all the path, for example, a call triggers the AGi and blah blah |
| 14:58.09 | P4C0 | guys hard question: I need a sip softphone that works on linux, with artsd supoprt anyone knows? |
| 14:58.40 | fugitivo | P4C0: did you try xlite? |
| 14:58.40 | iCEBrkr | P4C0: #linux is down the hall |
| 14:58.47 | littleball | ok. an external program trigger the call through asterisk amnager api and once the call is connected or hangup, the asterisk server will use agi to notify the external program |
| 14:58.56 | littleball | s/amnager/manager |
| 14:59.01 | P4C0 | fugitivo, no I haven't, I will |
| 14:59.07 | P4C0 | iCEBrkr, I love u too |
| 14:59.10 | iCEBrkr | :) |
| 14:59.12 | iCEBrkr | :* |
| 14:59.27 | P4C0 | fugitivo, thanks |
| 14:59.37 | iCEBrkr | I've become just as jaded as the rest of the #asterisk guys |
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| 14:59.51 | cfh | where can i find indications for snom programmable buttons with asterisk ? |
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| 15:00.51 | P4C0 | Dec 29 09:49:51 NOTICE[6664]: res_musiconhold.c:507 monmp3thread: Request to schedule in the past?!?! <-- why I'm getting like 100x lines of this? |
| 15:00.58 | littleball | iCEBrkr, you said that AGI is slow, so i think you give up this solution. then i think change your system design to avoid using agi, right? |
| 15:01.20 | P4C0 | iCEBrkr, that's ok :) |
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| 15:05.31 | Katty | ahhhhhh hahahahahahaha. |
| 15:05.33 | Katty | stupid windows. |
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| 15:05.47 | Katty | with its lolzinsufficentmemory /really/ means this filename is too long! i dunno how to read it! |
| 15:06.31 | iCEBrkr | 'more' |
| 15:06.32 | iDunno | heh |
| 15:06.57 | iDunno | stupid java with it's stupid non-portability. |
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| 15:07.06 | *** mode/#asterisk [+o anthm] by ChanServ |
| 15:07.12 | iCEBrkr | iDunno: ? |
| 15:07.21 | Katty | iCEBrkr: at least the mysterious of the Insufficent Memory has been solved. |
| 15:07.33 | Mimmus | "!! Unknown IE 26 (cs6, Unknown Information Element)": any idea? |
| 15:07.34 | Katty | iCEBrkr: i mean mystery. |
| 15:07.37 | iCEBrkr | type filename.txt | more |
| 15:07.58 | Katty | iCEBrkr: you clearly didn't understand. |
| 15:08.02 | iCEBrkr | :) |
| 15:08.04 | Katty | iCEBrkr: the file was created in linux, and moved to windows. |
| 15:08.10 | iCEBrkr | ok? |
| 15:08.14 | Katty | iCEBrkr: being over 255 characters, windows garbled it. |
| 15:08.15 | Cresl1n | Mimmus: yeah, it doesn't know how to parse whatever IE it's being sent (it being libpri I would assume) |
| 15:08.21 | iCEBrkr | Katty: Oh come'on |
| 15:08.22 | *** join/#asterisk file (i=file@neutron.file-radio.com) |
| 15:08.23 | Katty | iCEBrkr: even when attempting to go into the insanely long named folder... |
| 15:08.28 | Katty | iCEBrkr: windows gave out errors. |
| 15:08.38 | Katty | iCEBrkr: unable to read folder because it was too long of a name. |
| 15:08.38 | iCEBrkr | Katty: Oh the filename is over 255 chars? |
| 15:08.45 | Katty | iCEBrkr: the folder, yes. |
| 15:08.47 | iCEBrkr | LOL |
| 15:08.51 | *** join/#asterisk Poroto (i=raul@tesla.xmission.com) |
| 15:08.59 | iDunno | iCEBrkr: I'm having fun building some java software that seems to (at random) decide that it doesn't like the JVM |
| 15:09.05 | iCEBrkr | Katty: I'm not gonna ask why the directory name is over 255 characters. |
| 15:09.18 | Katty | iCEBrkr: i wouldn't have an answer for you anyway. |
| 15:09.18 | iCEBrkr | iDunno: Versions match? |
| 15:09.25 | Katty | iCEBrkr: i blame file completely. |
| 15:09.48 | iCEBrkr | Katty: Who uses names over 255 characters? That's pretty retardo |
| 15:09.50 | [TK]D-Fender | Katty : omgplzshsrinkitkthxbibi :) |
| 15:09.56 | iCEBrkr | [TK]D-Fender: LOL |
| 15:10.15 | [TK]D-Fender | X.X |
| 15:10.15 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: that would be my boss. |
| 15:10.23 | Katty | iCEBrkr: ^-- |
| 15:10.27 | [TK]D-Fender | His head can be shrunk too! |
| 15:10.31 | iCEBrkr | Katty: Fire him tomorrow. |
| 15:10.32 | Katty | iCEBrkr: and the owner of this company does whatever he wants. |
| 15:10.36 | Katty | iCEBrkr: i just clean it up ;) |
| 15:10.43 | iCEBrkr | Katty: Fire the owner while you're at it. |
| 15:10.47 | Katty | iCEBrkr: k |
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| 15:10.59 | iCEBrkr | Katty: Take over and YOU run the place. End of problems. |
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| 15:11.37 | Katty | iCEBrkr: i dont' want the job. |
| 15:11.55 | iCEBrkr | Katty: Ok, then continue to wrestle with gay filenames with batch files. |
| 15:12.17 | Katty | iCEBrkr: obviously. |
| 15:12.21 | Katty | iCEBrkr: oh, i get it. |
| 15:12.26 | Katty | iCEBrkr: you're playing mister fix it, right? |
| 15:12.34 | De_Mon | littleball i think what ice was trying to get across is that there may be a better approach to whatever you're trying to do. But since you haven't explained why you are doing what you are doing he can't help you find a better solution. Quit trying to make your square box fit in your round hole and ask someone how to make the hole round? |
| 15:12.54 | Katty | i keep forgeting this comes naturally to males. |
| 15:12.54 | _Sam-- | im doing some testing with ASTlinux...is anyone familar with it? (using USB pen as Key Drive) |
| 15:13.02 | iCEBrkr | De_Mon: Oh? he's still here? |
| 15:13.06 | iDunno | iCEBrkr: same version, just doesn't work in one build environment and does in the other, same versions from same packages from same servers with same source from same svn, at that. |
| 15:13.17 | iCEBrkr | iDunno: Whacked. |
| 15:13.40 | De_Mon | iCEBrkr he's quit talking talkfully, but maybe he'll 'get it' this time |
| 15:13.51 | iCEBrkr | hehe |
| 15:13.53 | De_Mon | shrug |
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| 15:14.17 | iCEBrkr | I'm all about helping someone, but if they're unwilling to listen, then F'm |
| 15:14.26 | [TK]D-Fender | Katty : Thats right. The problem with men is we keep tring to figure out the core of the problem an FIX IT. Whereas women really only want us to understand the emotional trauma caused by the problems itself and to tell them its all ok :) |
| 15:14.35 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: yes. |
| 15:14.40 | [TK]D-Fender | :D |
| 15:14.42 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: this batch script is causing me EMOTIONAL TRAUMA |
| 15:14.46 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: hugpls. |
| 15:14.47 | iCEBrkr | [TK]D-Fender: haha wow, are you sure you're not a chick? |
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| 15:15.09 | littleball | De_Mon, i think this should be a common problem.(AGI is proved to be slow in project). So the suggestion/recommendation should be very simple like "Don't use AGI and change your design to avoid using AGI). |
| 15:15.37 | [TK]D-Fender | iCEBrkr : No, I just pay a high price for near omniscience :) |
| 15:16.00 | Katty | iCEBrkr: you really should read the women are from venus/men are from mars book. |
| 15:16.11 | iCEBrkr | Katty: Not all men seem to want to fix the cause of the problem.. Take are government for example, it's not abortion clinics that are the problem, it's lack of sexual education and bringing our kids up to know better. |
| 15:16.26 | iCEBrkr | But that's another argument for some other time. |
| 15:16.34 | [TK]D-Fender | iCEBrkr : Followed by Dave Barry's "Dave Barry is from Venus AND Mars" |
| 15:16.38 | Katty | well maybe the parents should teach the children. |
| 15:16.45 | iCEBrkr | haha |
| 15:16.50 | Katty | and not rely on the government's educational system to do it for them. |
| 15:16.50 | littleball | i need to find out how iCEBrkr run php scripts thgouth agi, i want to compare what he did with mine. |
| 15:17.02 | Katty | oh, taking responsiblity |
| 15:17.03 | iCEBrkr | Katty: Nonon, see, it's the abortion clinics that's the problem!!! |
| 15:17.04 | Katty | i forgot |
| 15:17.06 | Katty | parents don't like doing that. |
| 15:17.10 | iCEBrkr | and I blame Beavis and Butthead too. |
| 15:17.44 | iCEBrkr | I grew up on Wile E. Coyote and Roadrunner, but you don't see me dropping anvils on peoples heads. |
| 15:17.47 | [TK]D-Fender | "Life is a sexually transmitted disease. If you can read this you' |
| 15:17.54 | [TK]D-Fender | re already &^%ed" |
| 15:18.05 | littleball | http://www.asterisk-java.org/latest/tutorial.html |
| 15:18.15 | iCEBrkr | So no. Not all men fix the core problem. |
| 15:18.25 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: one of the reasons i'm a happy straight edge. |
| 15:18.28 | iCEBrkr | Duct-tape and band-aids. |
| 15:18.45 | [TK]D-Fender | yeah iCEBrkr, all this talk about violence on TV reflecting on our daily lives is BS and I"ll kill anyone who says otherwise!!!! |
| 15:18.54 | iCEBrkr | [TK]D-Fender: LOL |
| 15:19.11 | iCEBrkr | Katty: you're severely twisted. |
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| 15:19.52 | iCEBrkr | Ya know, I should start making bumper stickers that picture an arrow with the word 'straight' overlayed on it. |
| 15:19.55 | Katty | iCEBrkr: also, you have /no/ idea. |
| 15:20.15 | iCEBrkr | Because I want the world to know who I am and what I'm about |
| 15:20.55 | [TK]D-Fender | iCEBrkr : Yeah... straight out in "left field" ;) |
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| 15:21.00 | iCEBrkr | Katty: Not enough drama in your life? Become 'straight-edge' so you have something to bitch and preach about.. oh and to get upset over others actions cuz they're not like you. |
| 15:21.12 | jbroome | and get bad tattoos |
| 15:21.13 | iCEBrkr | [TK]D-Fender: Hey, I kinda like it out there. |
| 15:21.31 | Katty | yay, the batch script is still going! |
| 15:21.38 | Katty | iCEBrkr: haha. |
| 15:21.43 | Katty | iCEBrkr: i'm not about drama, dear. |
| 15:22.01 | iCEBrkr | Katty: Oh, then you're not truely straightedge |
| 15:22.07 | Katty | iCEBrkr: and if you knew /anything/ about me, you know i don't get upset about other people and what they choose to do (= |
| 15:22.20 | Katty | iCEBrkr: but that's ok, i don't really care what you think either. |
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| 15:22.30 | iCEBrkr | lol |
| 15:22.31 | Katty | iCEBrkr: so have at it, cowboy! |
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| 15:22.46 | iCEBrkr | yeeeeeeeehawwww |
| 15:23.09 | iCEBrkr | Katty: Ok, fine fine, you're an exception to the 'rule'. |
| 15:23.27 | riddlebox | sweet the same two people talking again :p |
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| 15:24.02 | [TK]D-Fender | iCEBrkr : Think of "Pirates of the Carribbean"'s saying "they're more like 'guidelines'" :D |
| 15:24.09 | iCEBrkr | ha |
| 15:24.28 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: you must be /ancient/ |
| 15:24.40 | [TK]D-Fender | Yeah... 30 .. *shudder* |
| 15:24.43 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: zomg. |
| 15:24.54 | iCEBrkr | [TK]D-Fender: Your typical vegan are pretty whacked in the head.. Then all those straightedge kids.. omg. |
| 15:25.02 | Katty | iCEBrkr: yes. |
| 15:25.07 | Katty | iCEBrkr: we're Just Awful(tm) |
| 15:25.12 | iCEBrkr | Bad taste I tell ya.. |
| 15:25.17 | Katty | or maybe smart. |
| 15:25.18 | tRSS | what does a 410 - Gone error mean? My asterisk gets this error when it routes an international call to another ip exchange |
| 15:25.24 | Katty | not getting involved in all that complicated nightmare. |
| 15:25.37 | iCEBrkr | Katty: I guess, but can they please act a little normal? |
| 15:25.39 | [TK]D-Fender | I'm just the product of every bit of wisdom buried in the trash that I've watched, read, and listened in on. Much like what I do at work, I turn ^#%$ into GOLD |
| 15:25.48 | Katty | iCEBrkr: normal is so last season. |
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| 15:25.54 | iCEBrkr | Shit |
| 15:25.59 | iCEBrkr | I'm always missing the trendy stuff |
| 15:26.13 | Katty | you clearly don't read enough Teen magazine. |
| 15:26.19 | [TK]D-Fender | "Normal is another word for 'boring as dirt'" |
| 15:26.25 | Katty | ...that is a magazine, right? |
| 15:26.31 | P4C0 | why I'm getting: NOTICE[6664]: res_musiconhold.c:507 monmp3thread: Request to schedule in the past?!?! ? |
| 15:26.42 | [TK]D-Fender | P4C0 : More fun with MPG123.... |
| 15:26.58 | [TK]D-Fender | P4C0 : by and large ignore that if everything seems to work. |
| 15:27.00 | P4C0 | [TK]D-Fender, I haven't set music on hold or anything like that |
| 15:27.25 | [TK]D-Fender | P4C0 : MPG123 gets loaded and jsut sits around trying to synch with *'s clock (or something like that). |
| 15:27.41 | littleball | iCEBrkr, when your agi call php scripts, i think a php interpreter (#!/usr/bin/php4) needed to be loaded and initialized, right? |
| 15:27.42 | P4C0 | [TK]D-Fender, oks, thanks |
| 15:28.06 | fugitivo | littleball: right, it's slower than a compiled program |
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| 15:28.21 | littleball | then i think this is not an issue for asterisk-java |
| 15:28.42 | littleball | if you try to invoke/start an external process, it just cannot work |
| 15:29.12 | littleball | the time/resource consumed by the initialization of the external process/or connection is the killer |
| 15:29.19 | fugitivo | littleball: no |
| 15:29.27 | P4C0 | I re-register like 10 times ok, and then wrong password... this is driving me crazy |
| 15:29.40 | fugitivo | littleball: php will be slower, but AGI is still slow |
| 15:30.30 | iDunno | (something *will* work today, dammit) |
| 15:31.03 | littleball | fugitivo, i don't understand because AGI command itself is just a asterisk application. its(FastAGI) function is only write a few bytes data into socket.It should be much fast then decode/encoding etc |
| 15:31.04 | Katty | iDunno: i recommend hugging. |
| 15:31.11 | Katty | iDunno: it works wonders sometimes. |
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| 15:32.28 | littleball | fugitivo, i think "AGI" in your mind is something in the external program. My "AGI" means the application name of asterisk (like Dial) |
| 15:32.30 | iDunno | Katty: hmm - possibly, it'd help if there was at least some females in the office, though ;) |
| 15:32.50 | Katty | iDunno: you clearly need to get some then. |
| 15:33.46 | iDunno | or go across the road to the pub ;) |
| 15:34.05 | iCEBrkr | fugitivo: give up man, he's not listening. |
| 15:34.33 | Katty | iDunno: all the good girls aren't in the pubs. |
| 15:34.38 | _Sam-- | anyone fooled with ASTLinux using a usb pen drive as the key device? |
| 15:34.48 | Katty | _Sam--: someone has. |
| 15:34.53 | Katty | _Sam--: but i don't remember who anymore. |
| 15:34.58 | iDunno | Katty: ahh - but I might be looking for one that's not so good... |
| 15:35.06 | Katty | iDunno: )= |
| 15:35.13 | _Sam-- | its a cool setup, but it when it loads, it doesnt read the old config from the USB drive |
| 15:35.15 | littleball | thanks anyway, i will be careful |
| 15:35.19 | Katty | iDunno: gold diggers. |
| 15:35.31 | Katty | iDunno: and you shall be a tool and source of amusement for awhile. |
| 15:35.48 | iCEBrkr | Katty: That's a two-way street. |
| 15:35.50 | Katty | iDunno: perhaps not all of them though (= |
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| 15:36.13 | Katty | iCEBrkr: awful. |
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| 15:36.29 | iCEBrkr | Isn't it? |
| 15:36.34 | _Sam-- | is there a way to log one asterisk CLI to another remote CLI? |
| 15:36.45 | Katty | iCEBrkr: quite. |
| 15:37.12 | iDunno | Katty: seems unlikely that I'd attract any gold diggers - they generally go after people with money, don't they? :) |
| 15:37.26 | blogz | hi - can anyone help me? My suse 10 asterisk box was working perfectly until a power outage - now I can getting CAPI errors with an AVM c4 card: " > CAPI INFO 0x3302: Protocol error layer 2" when attempting to dial out. Can anyone help? |
| 15:37.31 | Katty | iDunno: unless you appear to have something else of worth. |
| 15:37.32 | fugitivo | littleball: when i talk about AGI(), i talk about the AGI() function itself, not the application run by AGI |
| 15:37.49 | iCEBrkr | iDunno: just hang a $100 out of your back pocket. |
| 15:37.59 | Katty | iDunno: and i'm /not/ going there. |
| 15:38.06 | iCEBrkr | iDunno: Or what Katty said. Stuff a sock in your pants :) |
| 15:38.11 | iDunno | hehehe |
| 15:38.20 | littleball | futitivo, ok. i am trying to read the source code of asterisk to find out why AGI () is slow now |
| 15:38.58 | Katty | iDunno: post gifs of beard. |
| 15:39.09 | gnosys | Is there a way, from the * console, to show exactly which codec is in use for a bridged connection/conversation? |
| 15:39.42 | Katty | i think sip show channels shows it |
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| 15:39.52 | Katty | under the format column or something |
| 15:39.57 | gnosys | probably for sip channels, but what about for IAX channels? |
| 15:40.24 | iDunno | Katty: http://www.sommitrealweird.co.uk/photos/me/ <-- though it's slightly longer than that at the moment. |
| 15:40.30 | Katty | iax2 show channels? |
| 15:40.57 | iDunno | doesn't "show channels" also do it? |
| 15:40.57 | Katty | iDunno: gosh, that is a beard. |
| 15:41.15 | gnosys | show channels doesn't, but iax2 show channels does. Thanks, Katty. :-) |
| 15:42.38 | gnosys | Is "ulaw" a preferred codec for iax2 over a relatively high-bandwidth data connection, say for example, a T-1? |
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| 15:42.56 | iCEBrkr | gnosys: Depends on how many calls and bandwidth you wanna use :) |
| 15:42.57 | fugitivo | gnosys: you decide what you prefer |
| 15:43.08 | iDunno | Katty: it's good for the cold weather - we get a fair amount of cold over here. |
| 15:43.10 | iCEBrkr | and of course the quality of sound |
| 15:43.17 | loud | yes, ulaw is the best for high bandwidth and quality. |
| 15:43.17 | blogz | is anyone else here running an AVM c4 card in the UK? |
| 15:43.20 | Katty | iDunno: i bet. my hair doubles as a jacket. |
| 15:43.24 | gnosys | I want high-quality audio in my phone-cons... with that criteria, would ulaw be a good choice? |
| 15:43.29 | Katty | iDunno: cause i have lots of it. (= |
| 15:43.35 | iCEBrkr | Katty: you have hippie hair? |
| 15:43.40 | Katty | iCEBrkr: mew? |
| 15:43.42 | fugitivo | gnosys: how many simultaneus calls? |
| 15:43.52 | iCEBrkr | Katty: down-to-your-ass hair? |
| 15:43.57 | Katty | iCEBrkr: hips. |
| 15:44.00 | iCEBrkr | geeesh |
| 15:44.03 | gnosys | no more than 6 simultaneous calls |
| 15:44.12 | iCEBrkr | Katty: that's a pain to maintain |
| 15:44.16 | Katty | iCEBrkr: haven't you ever seen a picture of me? |
| 15:44.21 | iDunno | Katty: :) is it dark? |
| 15:44.23 | Katty | iCEBrkr: not really. |
| 15:44.26 | Katty | iDunno: indeed. |
| 15:44.39 | iCEBrkr | Katty: I dated a girl that had hair down to her belt/waste |
| 15:44.47 | Katty | iCEBrkr: k |
| 15:44.51 | iCEBrkr | Katty: I can't recall seeing any pics of you |
| 15:45.00 | Katty | iCEBrkr: i see. |
| 15:45.24 | iDunno | \o/ |
| 15:45.33 | iCEBrkr | ha |
| 15:45.58 | gnosys | loud says that ulaw is best for high-bandwidth and trying to get high-quality audio. Is that generally agreed upon here? |
| 15:46.00 | iDunno | it's only taken 2 days - but it works now :) |
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| 15:47.08 | fugitivo | gnosys: yes, but it requires more bandwith, so be careful how many simultanous calls you get using ulaw |
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| 15:49.10 | [TK]D-Fender | gnosys : ULAW is what the telco operates on typically. Anything else is a loss in quality. If you can afford the bandwidth use it. |
| 15:49.34 | gnosys | thanks everyone, for the feedback on codecs. |
| 15:50.11 | Katty | pun intended. |
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| 15:50.42 | iCEBrkr | Hrrm, I've been using g726 |
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| 15:52.01 | brad_mssw | g726 isn't bad, telcos use that for international calls usually, afaik ... to save bandwidth, etc |
| 15:54.28 | gnosys | So Katty, for those of us who've not seen a picture of you, where would one look? |
| 15:54.30 | iCEBrkr | Works for me. |
| 15:54.39 | iCEBrkr | gnosys: She looks like a gnome. |
| 15:54.45 | gnosys | :-) |
| 15:54.50 | iCEBrkr | Complete with a little red hat and all |
| 15:54.51 | iCEBrkr | a/clear |
| 15:54.51 | Katty | gnosys: elsewhere. |
| 15:54.54 | gnosys | Isn't there a sone about that? |
| 15:54.57 | gnosys | song |
| 15:55.13 | gnosys | Long-haired, over-fed, leaping gnome...? |
| 15:55.16 | Katty | iCEBrkr: i am /not/ short. |
| 15:55.21 | iCEBrkr | :) |
| 15:55.42 | Katty | iCEBrkr: just a little vertically challenged, kthx. |
| 15:56.29 | blogz | is anyone else here running an AVM c4 card in the UK? |
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| 15:56.37 | Katty | gnosys: and no, i don't really look like a gnome. |
| 15:56.51 | fugitivo | like a kde? |
| 15:56.57 | Katty | fugitivo: exactly. |
| 15:57.00 | fugitivo | nice |
| 15:57.28 | Cresl1n | it's kind of different from a gnome |
| 15:57.34 | fugitivo | kde is smarter |
| 15:57.34 | meredydd | tall, blonde, and European, aren't they? |
| 15:57.37 | J4k3 | gnosys: Donovan!? haha |
| 15:57.42 | Katty | meredydd: not quite. |
| 15:58.02 | gnosys | song reference: http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/rememberthetitans/spillthewine.htm |
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| 15:58.19 | ManxPower | WOW! Infrared IP video cameras are expensive. |
| 15:58.35 | Katty | iDunno: boggler. |
| 15:58.42 | tRSS | can someone help me with this problem: http://forums.digium.com/viewtopic.php?t=3439 |
| 15:59.05 | fugitivo | ManxPower: you can use a regular ip camera and an external infrared light |
| 15:59.05 | iDunno | Katty: yup - it's useful, and better than being a letch (apparently) |
| 15:59.09 | J4k3 | hah, wow, I always figured that was donovan.. goes to show how much I pay attention :P |
| 15:59.20 | Katty | iDunno: letch? mew? |
| 15:59.30 | ManxPower | fugitivo, How? |
| 15:59.43 | iCEBrkr | ManxPower: Most cameras can already see IR. |
| 15:59.48 | ManxPower | iCEBrkr, Ah. |
| 15:59.51 | iCEBrkr | ManxPower: Actually, all CCDs can see IR |
| 15:59.52 | iDunno | hmm - 4pm and I haven't eaten yet :/ |
| 15:59.54 | ManxPower | Any recommended models? |
| 16:00.14 | littleball | fugitivo, after simple going through a few source files, i can only see the latency could be due to agi() look for .agi files from hardisk. other things are quite normal (c function calls-pbx_exec() method). If using AGI over TCP, it is not needed to read the .agi file from disk. |
| 16:00.20 | iCEBrkr | ManxPower: So all you need is a IR light source. typically, it's a ring of IR leds around the outside of the lens |
| 16:00.43 | iCEBrkr | ...and they make IR light-bulbs |
| 16:00.44 | fugitivo | littleball: and the tcp latency? |
| 16:00.58 | iCEBrkr | fugitivo: LOL |
| 16:01.10 | fugitivo | :) |
| 16:01.15 | littleball | agi only establish one TCP connection (only the first time) |
| 16:01.25 | littleball | it is socket and not http . |
| 16:02.12 | littleball | i am sure local tcp socket writing is very fast because the whole asterisk system using so many tcp/udp sockets. |
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| 16:03.06 | littleball | my experience is that the problem is due to the initialization of external process such java virtumal machine or php interpreter..... |
| 16:03.26 | littleball | this is the reason of coming of AGI Over TCP |
| 16:03.49 | fugitivo | littleball: AGI is more complex than just calling an external script and passing parameters |
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| 16:04.26 | littleball | maybe. i need to read more... |
| 16:04.30 | iCEBrkr | fugitivo: just put him on ignore |
| 16:04.38 | iCEBrkr | It's not worth your bandwidth |
| 16:04.45 | littleball | AGI over TCP never call external script directly |
| 16:05.27 | *** join/#asterisk [B]aby18 (n=AcMeMeT@85.108.144.188) |
| 16:05.43 | fugitivo | littleball: are you really using AGI capabilities or just calling a script? |
| 16:05.47 | littleball | iCEBrkr, if you really have some idea why not just tell me where is the bottleneck from the source code. I think you have the soruce code right? |
| 16:06.08 | littleball | using AGI over TCP. |
| 16:06.21 | littleball | no, i don't call script |
| 16:07.06 | fugitivo | littleball: the "thing" you call with AGI, is really using AGI capabilities? |
| 16:08.07 | littleball | sorry? called with? |
| 16:08.10 | fugitivo | it seems to me that you're not really using agi |
| 16:08.35 | littleball | _X.,3,AGI(agi://localhost/mobmeee.agi?connected=footrue&seconds=foo${allocatedcallingseconds}&accountcode=foo${ACCOUNTCODE}&src=foo${CALLERIDNUM}&dst=foo${legb}) |
| 16:09.00 | fugitivo | what does mobmeee.agi do? |
| 16:09.01 | littleball | this is what i used |
| 16:09.07 | *** join/#asterisk docelmo (n=docelmo@static-71-251-95-4.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) |
| 16:09.27 | littleball | only read the data from TCP socket . that is all |
| 16:09.49 | *** join/#asterisk Twister (n=Administ@216.30.232.106) |
| 16:09.56 | littleball | read means parse "&" |
| 16:10.07 | littleball | and parameter and value pairs |
| 16:10.16 | littleball | that is all agi done |
| 16:10.17 | fugitivo | does it do anything with asterisk? are you using any AGI lib inside that .agi? |
| 16:10.18 | ManxPower | and you have localhost listed in /etc/hosts ? |
| 16:10.27 | littleball | no |
| 16:10.32 | fugitivo | littleball: no? |
| 16:10.37 | fugitivo | littleball: then why are you using agi? |
| 16:10.54 | littleball | sorry, _X.,1,AbsoluteTimeout(${allocatedcallingseconds}) |
| 16:10.56 | fugitivo | it's just a call to an external program |
| 16:11.02 | littleball | SetVar(legb=${EXTEN}) |
| 16:11.06 | littleball | then call agi |
| 16:11.55 | littleball | when a call is coming, the system answer and then call agi |
| 16:11.59 | fugitivo | littleball: agi is used for interaction with asterisk, if your program doesn't interact with the call, then there's no need for agi |
| 16:12.17 | ManxPower | fugitivo, it would reduce the overhead of fork. |
| 16:12.22 | ManxPower | littleball, how much delay is there? |
| 16:12.30 | littleball | i cannot find any delay |
| 16:12.36 | littleball | it is really fast. |
| 16:12.43 | ManxPower | So what is the problem? |
| 16:13.00 | fugitivo | there's no problem |
| 16:13.01 | littleball | because iCEBrkr say it is very slow |
| 16:13.11 | littleball | and agi cannot be used in big system. |
| 16:13.16 | Katty | there is no problem - we just like the story! |
| 16:13.20 | littleball | so i want to confirm whether it is true |
| 16:13.28 | ManxPower | littleball, FastAGI does not have the overhead of normal AGI |
| 16:13.44 | littleball | Yes, i am using FastAGI(AGI over TCP) |
| 16:13.56 | ManxPower | Normal AGI, where the script is run each time AGI is called will be slow. FastAGI was created to remove that overhead. |
| 16:14.43 | ManxPower | Remember, AGI is still fast, it's just if you want to run the agi several times per second you should use FastAGI |
| 16:15.14 | littleball | ManxPower, yes, this is what i did. but iCEBrkr said it cannot be used in big system. In my system i tested 5 agi per/second. it is normal. |
| 16:15.15 | azzie | how many simultenious calls * can handle if it does not do codec conversion? on a decent pc |
| 16:15.23 | ManxPower | littleball, there is nothing special about AGI .vs. running any application many times per second. |
| 16:15.36 | gnosys | When I use SET CALLERID <number> to set a number for an outbound call, does this allow me to also set the caller text that accompanies the number? Or would that be done by setting a different variable? |
| 16:15.43 | ManxPower | azzie, Excelent question! Let us know what you find. |
| 16:15.47 | *** join/#asterisk opus_ (n=opus@dahphish.org) |
| 16:15.51 | opus_ | anyone here use junction networks? |
| 16:15.54 | wasim | azzie: '000s |
| 16:16.15 | littleball | ManPower, yes. becuase normally people run java/php interpreter, so it is very slow. It cannot run 1 time within one second becuase the initialization overhead is huge |
| 16:16.16 | azzie | ManxPower :) i'm sure there a people who know the answer :) |
| 16:16.16 | ManxPower | gnosys, generally telcos ignore the calleid name and sets it based on the telco callerid info for the number you send. |
| 16:16.28 | ManxPower | azzie, No. |
| 16:16.29 | *** part/#asterisk cfh (n=luca@82.193.23.6) |
| 16:17.00 | ManxPower | Since it depends on the interface, NAT, Dial options, disk speed, amount of logging, AGIs called, etc. |
| 16:17.07 | [TK]D-Fender | gnosys : What version of * are you using? |
| 16:17.13 | gnosys | 1.2.1 |
| 16:17.17 | ManxPower | Digium says you can do 8 T-1s ona Dual Xeon with no transcoding. |
| 16:17.20 | *** join/#asterisk SERGEUS_ (n=s@195.112.98.13) |
| 16:17.21 | azzie | ManxPower, strip all that. Just calls with noreinvite. |
| 16:17.31 | [TK]D-Fender | then "Set(CALLERID(name)=Your Name) |
| 16:17.44 | azzie | cool |
| 16:17.50 | ManxPower | azzie, Um, why not invites? |
| 16:17.56 | littleball | I just DIY one server at about US$1600. |
| 16:18.09 | littleball | it runs 1.2.1 very well |
| 16:18.12 | iDunno | hmmm - pasty :) |
| 16:18.13 | littleball | 4E1 |
| 16:18.14 | azzie | ManxPower, billing and other stuff... |
| 16:18.21 | gnosys | So if I wanted to set both the callerID number and callerIDName (my words), then I would do SET CALLERID <number> and what you just wrote, [TK]D-Fender? |
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| 16:18.49 | opus_ | is junction down? |
| 16:19.04 | ManxPower | define "other stuff". Remember IAX2 cannot keep correct CDRs with "reinvites". Other protocols can provide correct CDRs with reinvites enabled. |
| 16:19.07 | *** join/#asterisk Jay (i=Jay@192.153.153.179) |
| 16:21.11 | azzie | ManxPower, it's not the point. My concern is that with reinvites has to switch RTP (does it?) and a PC can't handle too many kernel/process context switches per second |
| 16:21.38 | [TK]D-Fender | gnosys : 2 steps. Set(CALLERID(num)=1234567) and Set(CALLERID(name)=Your Name) |
| 16:21.47 | ManxPower | azzie, Reinvites removes audio from the server. With reinvites the two end points send their audio directly to each other. |
| 16:22.03 | gnosys | Thanks [TK]D-Fender |
| 16:22.17 | ManxPower | signalling, of course, still goes thru the server. |
| 16:22.28 | ManxPower | This applies to any protocol that uses RTP (i.e. NOT IAX2) |
| 16:22.52 | azzie | so if your super-pc is capable of doing 3-5K context switches, it's just few hundreds standing calls |
| 16:23.05 | ManxPower | Huh? |
| 16:23.12 | ManxPower | reinvites LOWER CPU usage |
| 16:23.13 | *** join/#asterisk florz (n=florz@2001:1a50:503c:0:0:0:0:1) |
| 16:23.13 | azzie | with noreinvites |
| 16:23.56 | ManxPower | azzie, Asterisk is multi-threaded and that reduces context switching, as opposed to FORKing |
| 16:24.42 | azzie | ManxPower, kernel-to-userprocess context switches. Get UDP to kernel, switch processor to user mode for *, switch it back to kernel to send UDP out |
| 16:25.00 | *** join/#asterisk kio (n=kio@ool-4577adba.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 16:25.08 | ManxPower | azzie, Ah. Yes. The same issues with any networked application like a web server |
| 16:26.06 | kippi | hey |
| 16:26.18 | kippi | is John from diguim around? |
| 16:26.52 | azzie | nobody cares if a HTML or GIF sticks in kernel buffer for hundreds of milliseconds because CPU is "busy" |
| 16:27.22 | azzie | with RTP it really matters |
| 16:28.07 | tRSS | can someone help me with this problem: http://forums.digium.com/viewtopic.php?t=3439 |
| 16:29.13 | *** part/#asterisk cpm (n=Chip@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/cpm) |
| 16:30.23 | gnosys | [TK]D-Fender: it seems that ManxPower's comment about telcos ignoring the callerIDName (my word) is true. Either that or my syntax for setting the callerIDName is not quite correct. I did use exactly what you suggested. Do you suppose that the problem lies with the telcos ignoring my setting? |
| 16:30.29 | ManxPower | tRSS, C is either in the wrong context in sip.conf or the internal dialplan for device C is not set correctly. |
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| 16:30.55 | ManxPower | gnosys, I would be VERY VERY suprized if the telco passed your calleridname |
| 16:31.08 | ManxPower | It's normally the TERMINATING telco that does this. |
| 16:31.15 | gnosys | I can set the number to whatever, but it seems that the telcos just use that number to look up the person who subscribes to that number, and fills in the text with whatever they have associated with that number in their database. |
| 16:31.18 | ManxPower | Your telco may or may not pass the name you set. Most don't. |
| 16:31.27 | tRSS | ManxPower: C's dialplan says: if recieved is XXXXXX. then send it to the PSTN connection |
| 16:31.28 | ManxPower | gnosys, Yes, that is the way it works. |
| 16:31.39 | gnosys | ok. Thanks, ManxPower. |
| 16:31.41 | De_Mon | iCEBrkr I found abort73.com to be a pretty informative abortion website. |
| 16:31.54 | tRSS | Manxpower: what do you mean that C is defined in the wrong context? |
| 16:32.12 | iCEBrkr | lol |
| 16:32.13 | azzie | gnosys, and yes, it's pain in the ass to update thouse CNAM databases if you're not a big telco ;) |
| 16:32.17 | tRSS | ManxPower: if you want, I can paste my sip.conf on pastebin? |
| 16:32.17 | iCEBrkr | De_Mon: that's so 2hrs ago |
| 16:32.27 | kippi | has anyone got a url for a good setup for incoming calls? |
| 16:32.33 | ManxPower | tRSS, The sip.conf section for device C has a context= that points to a context in extensions.conf that is not allowed to dial international. |
| 16:32.34 | iDunno | it's all working :) |
| 16:32.44 | ManxPower | tRSS, Sure. I doh't guarntee I can look at it. |
| 16:32.45 | gnosys | azzie: not sure I follow? What CNAM databases? |
| 16:32.46 | *** part/#asterisk opus_ (n=opus@dahphish.org) |
| 16:33.03 | *** join/#asterisk spunz_ (n=spunz@h081217096096.dyn.cm.kabsi.at) |
| 16:33.15 | tRSS | ManxPower: Let me paste and see if you can help me. but thanks for the help so far! :) |
| 16:33.15 | ManxPower | gnosys, CNAM database is the telco database of name/number pairs (not technically correct, but close enough for this) |
| 16:33.17 | azzie | gnosys, it's that database with caller names |
| 16:33.25 | De_Mon | iCEBrkr I know :( had to scroll up to see if whats-his-face said anything inteligable and couldn't resist |
| 16:33.46 | iCEBrkr | :) |
| 16:34.17 | gnosys | So... would I update that??? I'm confused? For whom is it a pain in the ass? The telco? |
| 16:34.38 | ManxPower | gnosys, if you own the number then call your telco to update the callerid name info |
| 16:34.52 | gnosys | Oh. I see. |
| 16:34.59 | De_Mon | hearing Katty imply it was smart to 'not care' about the mass murder of babies deserved comment, the difference between blissful ignorance and being smart is just way too huge |
| 16:35.01 | gnosys | Thanks fellas. |
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| 16:36.22 | ManxPower | De_Mon, I think the key is that many people (myself included) don't believe and embryo is a baby. |
| 16:36.33 | fugitivo | that's retarded |
| 16:36.42 | _Sam-- | i have one asterisk box talking to another one via IAX.....one box is a gateway. when i call through the gateway from the other Asterisk IAX box i get: -- IAX2/teliax-16393 answered IAX2/astlinux-2 |
| 16:36.42 | _Sam-- | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:36.42 | _Sam-- | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:36.42 | _Sam-- | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:36.46 | *** join/#asterisk brad_mssw (n=brad@shop.monetra.com) |
| 16:36.57 | _Sam-- | what happens there? |
| 16:36.58 | *** join/#asterisk harryvv (n=none@S010600a0c93f6f7e.vs.shawcable.net) |
| 16:37.07 | fugitivo | _Sam--: happens that you need to use pastebin |
| 16:37.12 | _Sam-- | heh sorry |
| 16:37.18 | ManxPower | _Sam--, I suspect either NAT or codec issues |
| 16:37.26 | _Sam-- | they are both on the same LAN segment |
| 16:37.39 | ManxPower | then it's proly a NAT issue |
| 16:37.42 | _Sam-- | but the non gateway box doesnt have an external (internet) ip |
| 16:37.46 | _Sam-- | the gateway box does |
| 16:38.05 | ManxPower | "transfer" would mean "have teliax and astlinux talk directly to each other" |
| 16:38.13 | tRSS | ManxPower: here is the pastebin URL: http://pastebin.com/482987 |
| 16:38.17 | _Sam-- | how do i prevent that? |
| 16:38.23 | _Sam-- | i want the gatway asterisk in the middle |
| 16:38.56 | ManxPower | _Sam--, so you don't want IAX2 transfers? |
| 16:39.13 | _Sam-- | not for what im doing now, no |
| 16:39.33 | ManxPower | tRSS, I only see 1 device set in sip.conf. |
| 16:39.42 | De_Mon | ManxPower correct, which is usualy (you man be an exception but) a belief rooted in utter stupidity and purposeful ignorance on the subject. |
| 16:39.52 | ManxPower | _Sam--, notransfer=yes in iax.conf |
| 16:40.05 | _Sam-- | THANKS. |
| 16:41.26 | zoa2 | hey ho sam |
| 16:41.35 | tRSS | ManxPower: that is not the device. See if I have to make international calls, my dial would look like: exten => _011.,1,Dial(SIP/${EXTEN}@uszultys,20,rt). I have set the polycom device as another context |
| 16:41.53 | _Sam-- | hey zoa! |
| 16:42.07 | ManxPower | tRSS, the polycom cannot dial international? |
| 16:42.40 | tRSS | ManxPower: any extension on asterisk can not dial international. I can add more of sip.conf if you wish? |
| 16:42.42 | ManxPower | tRSS, BTW, for get EVERYTHING from anyone that tells you to use "r" option on Dial. |
| 16:42.44 | _Sam-- | ManxPower: now i get: Attempting native bridge of IAX2/astlinux-3 and IAX2/teliax-16390 but it sounds like ass |
| 16:42.48 | *** join/#asterisk florz (n=florz@2001:1a50:503c:0:0:0:0:1) |
| 16:43.00 | _Sam-- | what should i be checking? |
| 16:43.20 | *** join/#asterisk rikstah (n=rick@87.113.11.91.bbplus.pte-ag1.dyn.plus.net) |
| 16:43.22 | tRSS | ManxPower: I will make a note of it |
| 16:43.49 | *** join/#asterisk zishanov (n=mail@HSE-Toronto-ppp3489695.sympatico.ca) |
| 16:44.08 | ManxPower | _Sam--, the message prolly is talking about internal "native bridge", which I don't know much about, rather than a native transfer |
| 16:44.21 | _Sam-- | zoa2: when you getting me a new fisk? :) |
| 16:44.30 | zoa2 | aha |
| 16:44.33 | zoa2 | good question |
| 16:44.38 | zoa2 | the 1.27 is out |
| 16:44.39 | ManxPower | tRSS, you need an entry in sip.conf for any SIP device that will be talking to Asterisk |
| 16:44.52 | zoa2 | but dont have any pro's and the guy is on vacation till wednesday |
| 16:45.46 | tRSS | ManxPower: I have updated the pastebin page: http://pastebin.com/482993 |
| 16:45.49 | P4C0 | is it normal that sip show peers shows all the peers with the same port? |
| 16:46.09 | zishanov | whats the cause of error :line0: Unable to open master device '/dev/zap/ctl' |
| 16:46.22 | zishanov | P4C0, that is normal |
| 16:46.34 | *** join/#asterisk JunK-Y (n=junky@67.71.110.21) |
| 16:46.35 | zishanov | P4C0: howz your voice mail now |
| 16:46.46 | P4C0 | zishanov, but I need to change the port if I want to run a sip phone on the same machine right? |
| 16:46.50 | P4C0 | zishanov, fine, thanks |
| 16:47.01 | ManxPower | tRSS, EVERY entry in sip.conf for type=user or type=friend should have a context=something which is the [something] section of extensions.conf |
| 16:47.34 | zishanov | P4C0: how did you fix it |
| 16:47.34 | ManxPower | zishanov, zaptel drivers not being loaded. |
| 16:47.58 | ManxPower | P4C0, you don't want to run a SIP phone on the same machine as Asterisk |
| 16:48.11 | tRSS | ManxPower: i thought, if I don't, it will take the value from the default context |
| 16:48.12 | zishanov | ManxPower: I did make clean, make linux 26, make install on zaptel. What else I need to do |
| 16:48.13 | P4C0 | ManxPower, why? :( |
| 16:48.33 | P4C0 | zishanov, changed the seccions from name to extensions in sip.conf |
| 16:48.46 | ManxPower | P4C0, for one thing you should not run graphics applications on an Asterisk server |
| 16:49.16 | P4C0 | ManxPower, cpu? no prob |
| 16:49.55 | ManxPower | srt, yes, but you don't want that to happen for security reasons. put context=INVALID in [general] then put the correct context= in each other sip.conf section |
| 16:50.17 | ManxPower | P4C0, no, interrupt lacency. |
| 16:50.25 | ManxPower | latency, that is |
| 16:50.29 | P4C0 | ManxPower, oks |
| 16:50.42 | *** part/#asterisk JunK-Y (n=junky@67.71.110.21) |
| 16:50.50 | shido6 | or create a default context with something referring to your contact number to sign up (wasting b/w or bringing in new sales?) |
| 16:50.55 | zishanov | P4C0, I have two of my sip phones working with names in their sections. But in this case you have to define in extensions.conf, in [global], JOHN=SIP/201 etc |
| 16:51.16 | P4C0 | yes |
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| 16:53.27 | bn-7bc | can anyone telle me how to set up asterisk for use wit me account from 2phone (norwegian voip provider) ther costumer service seem to be ower worked atm? |
| 16:55.11 | iCEBrkr | Geesh, I can spend all day on digg.com |
| 16:55.22 | wunderkin | hmm im trying to figure out how to get cause codes off of my pri.. i specifically want to know if a number is disconnected.. i tried to dial a number that i know is disconnected and of course it doesnt answer the line.. after awhile it finally hangs up with cause 16.. do i need to change the inband/outofband indication thing or something? |
| 16:55.47 | iCEBrkr | wunderkin: There's a list of cause codes on the wiki somewhere |
| 16:55.48 | zishanov | ManxPower, why would zaptel not being loaded, what have I missed |
| 16:55.49 | iCEBrkr | I've seen it |
| 16:56.08 | wunderkin | iCEBrkr: yeah, im looking at it but it is only returning 16 which is normal |
| 16:56.11 | *** join/#asterisk mog_work (n=mogorman@gateway.digium.com) |
| 16:56.13 | iCEBrkr | hrrrm |
| 16:56.34 | file | apparently it's my birthday on January 1st and I get free local calling all day... |
| 16:56.38 | file | which is odd, because it was on October 6th |
| 16:56.55 | Katty | which is the day before my birthday. |
| 16:57.21 | file | very very strange |
| 16:58.00 | ManxPower | zishanov, perhaps you forgot to set the system to load it on boot. Asterisk doesn't have magical config gnomes, you have to set it yourself |
| 16:58.27 | iCEBrkr | ManxPower: What about magical config KDEs? |
| 16:58.44 | shido6 | if you build it it might run |
| 16:58.55 | tRSS | how can I remove the first digit off the number dialled? e.g. user dials 1011XXX but I want to remove the first digit and send 011XXX |
| 16:59.06 | shido6 | ${EXTEN:1} |
| 16:59.13 | tRSS | shido6: thanks! |
| 16:59.33 | ManxPower | tRSS, Dude, read the Asterisk book. Also read README.variable and in fact read ALL the files in the docs directory |
| 16:59.36 | iCEBrkr | Hey the answer to that can be found on the Wiki |
| 16:59.41 | zishanov | ManxPower, I ran make config. When I see lsmod, it shows that zaptel is running |
| 16:59.42 | ManxPower | shido6, you sure are easy today. |
| 17:00.03 | ManxPower | zishanov, the CARD or DEVICE driver |
| 17:00.05 | iDunno | *yay*! beer after work! |
| 17:00.14 | iCEBrkr | iDunno: Mmmmbeeer |
| 17:00.18 | ManxPower | zaptel doesn't do you any good if it can't talk to a card driver |
| 17:00.37 | file | gah |
| 17:00.42 | shido6 | in the root dir of your asterisk dir there is a "doc" dir |
| 17:00.43 | shido6 | have at it |
| 17:00.57 | file | why am I getting 0 rows... |
| 17:01.05 | Katty | file: because you need a cookie. |
| 17:01.08 | Katty | file: obviously. |
| 17:01.08 | iCEBrkr | file: you suck at sql? |
| 17:01.11 | file | I do ,I do |
| 17:01.18 | file | iCEBrkr: haha |
| 17:01.20 | iDunno | file: ahh - because the table has no data in it :) |
| 17:01.29 | iCEBrkr | Katty: ya know, if you keep handing out all these cookies, we're gonna get all big and fat. |
| 17:01.34 | Katty | iCEBrkr: k |
| 17:01.39 | iDunno | (it can't be an SQL error, no one would ever be that silly *grin*) |
| 17:01.42 | iCEBrkr | Katty: and it's gonna be ALL YOUR FAULT |
| 17:01.43 | JonR800 | or your query is wrong :) |
| 17:01.46 | Katty | iCEBrkr: k |
| 17:02.03 | iCEBrkr | Katty: Don't you care?! |
| 17:02.08 | Katty | iCEBrkr: k |
| 17:02.16 | iCEBrkr | DAMNIT WOMAN! |
| 17:02.21 | Katty | watch your tounge. |
| 17:02.39 | iDunno | iCEBrkr: look, if you're worried about getting fat, STOP ACCEPTING THE DAMN COOKIES ;) |
| 17:02.51 | iCEBrkr | iDunno: but but but... I can't help it. |
| 17:02.54 | fugitivo | or get another job |
| 17:03.03 | iCEBrkr | 8() |
| 17:03.07 | iDunno | iCEBrkr: ahhh - lack of self control? awwww ;) |
| 17:03.22 | N9URK | any milk discussions today? |
| 17:03.30 | iCEBrkr | N9URK: Nope, cookie time. |
| 17:03.36 | De_Mon | ManxPower the [general] context= doesnt apply if it's excluded from the entry? |
| 17:03.41 | fugitivo | yes, milk is evil, mysql is evil, and microsoft is evil |
| 17:03.44 | iDunno | iCEBrkr: ahh - but with cookies, don't you need milk? |
| 17:03.47 | N9URK | I think I will have some Newman-Os |
| 17:03.51 | file | fugitivo: I'm evil too |
| 17:03.53 | N9URK | they are yummy |
| 17:03.56 | iDunno | fugitivo: 2 out of 3 ain't bad ;) |
| 17:03.56 | fugitivo | file is evil |
| 17:04.00 | *** join/#asterisk caryon_ (n=caryon@p54A3C8E3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 17:04.05 | De_Mon | nevermind... |
| 17:04.11 | iCEBrkr | iDunno: Yeah, cuz cookies and beer just isn't right |
| 17:04.22 | N9URK | what about cookies and hot tea? |
| 17:04.28 | fugitivo | i like tea |
| 17:04.32 | iDunno | N9URK: that's good, or with coffee. |
| 17:04.45 | Katty | file: mew? |
| 17:04.45 | fugitivo | green tea |
| 17:04.50 | iDunno | though, bestest thing in the world is strong coffee and a mint aero to dunk in it :) |
| 17:05.03 | N9URK | green tea is awesome |
| 17:05.07 | file | Katty: your mewish level is low today |
| 17:05.15 | Katty | file: quite. |
| 17:05.18 | file | oh cool, download is done |
| 17:05.20 | fugitivo | red tea is nice too |
| 17:05.28 | kippi | will exten => 9X.,1,Dial(Zap/g1/${EXTEN:1}) |
| 17:05.36 | N9URK | I slept late today. I am going to be in a rush to get my client's project done. I think I am getting sick |
| 17:05.49 | kippi | will this ring any nummber after the 9 ? |
| 17:05.50 | fugitivo | N9URK: drink tea |
| 17:06.07 | N9URK | Good advice, fugitivo |
| 17:06.48 | fugitivo | kippi: correct syntax would be _9X, for only one digit after the 9 or _9. for every digit after the 9 |
| 17:06.54 | N9URK | Katty, what kind of salt do you use? |
| 17:06.59 | file | Katty: >.< |
| 17:07.15 | file | Katty: feels like heaven! |
| 17:07.45 | wunderkin | i tried priindication = outofband and inband but neither seem to change this.. i still only get cause 16 on disconnected numbers... hmm? |
| 17:07.51 | iDunno | fugitivo: _9. is EVIL! should be at least _9X. |
| 17:08.33 | iDunno | (my opinion only, of course, and my opinion is worth bugger all :) |
| 17:08.37 | kippi | With _9X. I am getting a 404 error |
| 17:09.10 | [TK]D-Fender | kippi : Pastebin your Zapata.conf & Extensions.conf. |
| 17:09.11 | [TK]D-Fender | ~pb |
| 17:09.15 | jbot | somebody said pb was a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.com/, or http://pastebin.ca |
| 17:09.26 | file | [TK]D-Fender: !!! |
| 17:09.30 | ManxPower | iDunno, No. _. is evil. _9. is does have not have the same problem. |
| 17:09.33 | [TK]D-Fender | file: !!! |
| 17:09.58 | ManxPower | _9. is silly and stupid, but isn't evil. |
| 17:10.03 | [TK]D-Fender | ManxPower : 9. *is* evil. On analog channels gives UNRESTRICTED dial-tone. |
| 17:10.16 | [TK]D-Fender | Yeah I guess STUPID works ;) |
| 17:10.29 | *** join/#asterisk schuyler_ (n=schuyler@gateway.digium.com) |
| 17:10.34 | ManxPower | [TK]D-Fender, Only if you use 9 for your outside line indicator. |
| 17:10.43 | ManxPower | Most of the world uses 0 for that. |
| 17:10.44 | fugitivo | MYSQL AND FILE ARE THE ONLY EVIL HERE |
| 17:10.51 | ManxPower | But I see your point. |
| 17:11.17 | ManxPower | [TK]D-Fender, I sometimes forget about that. Our LD company makes sure that no toll calls happen without an auth code. |
| 17:11.37 | ManxPower | I let them deal with it 8-) |
| 17:16.14 | kippi | http://pastebin.com/483032 and http://pastebin.com/483044 |
| 17:18.13 | *** part/#asterisk SwK[Work] (n=SwK@64.89.118.139) |
| 17:18.19 | *** join/#asterisk SwK[Work] (n=SwK@64.89.118.139) |
| 17:19.50 | harryvv | Who can provide same day service if I buy DIDs? |
| 17:20.24 | [TK]D-Fender | kippi : What context are your phones using? |
| 17:20.52 | kippi | how can I double check? |
| 17:21.11 | [TK]D-Fender | SIP.CONF |
| 17:21.18 | [TK]D-Fender | look at the context in each phone entry |
| 17:21.42 | [TK]D-Fender | Oh, I found your problem.... |
| 17:22.05 | [TK]D-Fender | 505. include=outgoing <- should be "include => outgoing" |
| 17:22.21 | [TK]D-Fender | missed a ">" |
| 17:22.29 | [TK]D-Fender | fix, reload, test.... |
| 17:22.31 | kippi | where is that? |
| 17:22.42 | [TK]D-Fender | line 505 in your extensions.conf pastebin |
| 17:23.12 | harryvv | TK, seen a case of Putting in info of [Inbound] that it interfeared with outbound calls? I would get a disconected notice on my ip500. I soon deleted that DID configuration and it returned to normal. |
| 17:23.45 | [TK]D-Fender | harryvv ... I did not follow that AT ALL :/ |
| 17:23.58 | harryvv | Making any local call would get a disconect busy tone on my ip500 |
| 17:24.10 | [TK]D-Fender | That makes no sense... |
| 17:24.19 | harryvv | I know |
| 17:24.20 | file | probably some configuration issue... sip debug tells you all |
| 17:24.33 | [TK]D-Fender | Maybe being forced to use 10 digit dialing? |
| 17:24.54 | harryvv | It was comming from my asterisk box...so removed the [inbound] and the following DID information. |
| 17:24.55 | [TK]D-Fender | or is it the phone itself that is generating the tone? |
| 17:25.08 | [TK]D-Fender | harryvv : ~pb |
| 17:25.26 | harryvv | TK, my phone system works 100% without the configuration for the DID info. |
| 17:25.32 | harryvv | kinda odd |
| 17:27.12 | [TK]D-Fender | pastebin the non-working version so I can get it straight. |
| 17:27.21 | [TK]D-Fender | kippi : well? |
| 17:28.30 | *** join/#asterisk TheCops (n=henri@206-248-136-187.dsl.teksavvy.com) |
| 17:28.35 | TheCops | hey [TK]D-Fender |
| 17:28.38 | [TK]D-Fender | y0 |
| 17:28.40 | TheCops | I just received the IP501 phone! |
| 17:28.42 | TheCops | whouhou! |
| 17:28.44 | [TK]D-Fender | Cool |
| 17:28.46 | TheCops | So cute! |
| 17:28.50 | TheCops | and so clear! |
| 17:28.52 | [TK]D-Fender | Its pretty nice. |
| 17:28.58 | [TK]D-Fender | All the Poly's are. |
| 17:29.09 | *** join/#asterisk eKo1 (n=bernd@63.245.57.70) |
| 17:29.14 | ManxPower | TheCops, I think in MA you are allowed to marry your Polycom. |
| 17:29.41 | harryvv | only thing i dont like about the polycoms is no backlight |
| 17:30.15 | *** join/#asterisk chapeaurouge (n=chap@85.201.81.201) |
| 17:30.40 | TheCops | [TK]D-Fender, hey, I've got MicroBrowser XML options in web administration |
| 17:30.52 | [TK]D-Fender | TheCops : You do? Thats odd..... |
| 17:31.05 | [TK]D-Fender | Could be present but non-functional for your model |
| 17:31.10 | ManxPower | TheCops, They might be fake. |
| 17:31.14 | TheCops | It's asking me Main Browser Home and proxy |
| 17:31.22 | TheCops | [TK]D-Fender ho ok |
| 17:31.39 | [TK]D-Fender | harryvv : The only SIP phone I've seen with backlights are Grandstream's, and that is their only redeeming value! |
| 17:31.50 | ManxPower | TheCops, don't expect it to work, but you can try it. one of the reasons for the switch from 500 to 501 was to add more memory to add more features |
| 17:31.56 | N9URK | Is anyone here using *@home? |
| 17:32.02 | ManxPower | [TK]D-Fender, SIPura does too. |
| 17:32.19 | TheCops | [TK]D-Fender, where's is the text configuration |
| 17:32.20 | [TK]D-Fender | N9URK : Yes, but they are smart enough to remain silent about it;) Try #amportal. |
| 17:32.22 | TheCops | I hate web interface |
| 17:32.26 | TheCops | and always lost |
| 17:32.43 | ManxPower | TheCops, download and read the ADMIN GUIDE |
| 17:32.54 | N9URK | ok, I'm not using just a little curious about it; I don't think I will use it |
| 17:33.06 | [TK]D-Fender | TheCops : http://www.freedomphones.net/polycom/files/ |
| 17:33.23 | [TK]D-Fender | TheCops : and grab the version that matches whats loaded on the phone to start. |
| 17:33.25 | *** join/#asterisk Assid (n=assid@203.115.64.59) |
| 17:33.27 | ManxPower | What I did when I started with the polycoms was configure 1 phone the way I wanted it via the web interface, then allow the phone to upload it's config to the server, then used that as a basis for the central config stuff |
| 17:33.48 | [TK]D-Fender | TheCops : And yeah download the Admin guide for your SIP version and get reading. Lots of fun stuff. |
| 17:33.50 | kippi | is there an echo test i can do? |
| 17:34.13 | Assid | polys rock! |
| 17:34.25 | [TK]D-Fender | ManxPower : I found the defaults pretty decent in the support pack and modded my way into it. I didn't trust the phone generated one myself. |
| 17:34.38 | [TK]D-Fender | kippi : Between what? |
| 17:34.51 | kippi | to test the echo on the card and lines |
| 17:35.12 | [TK]D-Fender | kippi : hmm.. just try calling someone I guess.... |
| 17:35.16 | ManxPower | [TK]D-Fender, as I said, I used it as a BASIS, mostly to learn. |
| 17:35.30 | ManxPower | kippi, call someone on an ANALOG phone. |
| 17:35.38 | [TK]D-Fender | ManxPower : I suppose. Thats the "reverse engineering" approach anyways. |
| 17:35.39 | ManxPower | not a cell phone, not a PRI, not a VOIP line. |
| 17:35.42 | kippi | whats a really quick script that will see that its an DID coming in and send that to an extension? |
| 17:35.50 | wunderkin | anyone know of any phone numbers that are disconnected? ;) |
| 17:35.52 | [TK]D-Fender | kippi : What ManxPower said... |
| 17:36.06 | [TK]D-Fender | kippi : You are running a PRI? |
| 17:36.06 | ManxPower | kippi, exten => mydid,1,Dial(SIP/wanker) |
| 17:36.30 | Ariel_ | http://blog.tmcnet.com/blog/tom-keating/videos/a-very-Cisco-Christmas.wmv |
| 17:36.41 | Ariel_ | You just have to see this |
| 17:36.54 | Ariel_ | great sell for voip.... |
| 17:37.10 | ManxPower | Ariel_, how big is it? |
| 17:37.36 | Ariel_ | ManxPower, don't know size. But it's a great spoof |
| 17:37.42 | [TK]D-Fender | kippi : So I take it your outside calls are working now? |
| 17:38.14 | De_Mon | Ariel_ i'm not convenced |
| 17:38.29 | Ariel_ | De_Mon, hehe |
| 17:38.34 | *** part/#asterisk Enderson (n=enderson@smtp.gentoo.org) |
| 17:39.18 | De_Mon | the day a girl invites me to come over and play with her router... |
| 17:39.47 | TheCops | [TK]D-Fender, I'll see you in a week, I just printed the 166page of the Admin guide |
| 17:39.50 | TheCops | *g* |
| 17:40.19 | [TK]D-Fender | De_Mon : Yeah I can picture you getting slapped asking to "open a socket and try some plug-ins"...:/ |
| 17:41.16 | eKo1 | hahaha |
| 17:41.28 | [TK]D-Fender | Ariel_ : That video was just ...dumb... |
| 17:41.43 | Ariel_ | Yes but it's so stupid that it's funny |
| 17:41.54 | De_Mon | nah, it was just stupid |
| 17:42.11 | ManxPower | Ariel_, For some reason I can't view it. |
| 17:42.53 | *** join/#asterisk chapeaurouge_ (n=chapeaur@85.201.81.201) |
| 17:43.09 | [TK]D-Fender | *boing* |
| 17:43.15 | *** join/#asterisk chapeaurouge (n=chapeaur@85.201.81.201) |
| 17:43.41 | [TK]D-Fender | *boing* |
| 17:43.41 | *** join/#asterisk saftsack (n=oliver@p54A7D1AA.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 17:54.42 | *** join/#asterisk licued (i=licucude@ool-44c784a0.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 17:54.51 | *** join/#asterisk davidw (n=davidw@apache/committer/davidw) |
| 17:54.54 | wunderkin | heh.. |
| 17:55.11 | davidw | hi all... any idea why asterisk would try calling me twice when using the call file spool? |
| 17:55.25 | davidw | MaxRetries is 0 |
| 17:56.07 | *** join/#asterisk SplasPood (n=jwb@brooklyn.paravolve.net) |
| 17:56.10 | harryvv | thats interesting |
| 17:57.47 | ManxPower | davidw, Do you have an exten => _. pattern in extensions.conf? |
| 17:58.14 | davidw | exten => s,1,Wait(3) |
| 17:58.14 | davidw | exten => s,2,TxFax(${FAXFILE}|caller) |
| 17:58.16 | davidw | is what I've got |
| 17:58.33 | davidw | well, then it hangs up, but you get the idea |
| 17:58.49 | ManxPower | because exten => _. will cause everything to be run twice. |
| 17:59.15 | davidw | it's definitely hitting the TxFax |
| 17:59.18 | ManxPower | one when you dial the digits and once when you hang up (extension "h" will be matched by _. |
| 18:00.18 | davidw | there is no _ in the [sendfax] context |
| 18:00.22 | davidw | just 's' |
| 18:00.30 | ManxPower | weird |
| 18:00.33 | davidw | yeah |
| 18:02.20 | Assid | hrmm.. next up on my play list.. rxtxfax |
| 18:02.38 | davidw | txfax seems a bit... mmmm it needs more hacking IMO |
| 18:02.55 | *** join/#asterisk _DAW (n=bob@adsl-156-94-42.msy.bellsouth.net) |
| 18:03.16 | davidw | I wrote the author yesterday, but he hasn't responded yet |
| 18:03.37 | Assid | well.. takes time |
| 18:05.05 | davidw | harryvv has a good testing idea: it only dials once when going to SIP |
| 18:05.25 | *** join/#asterisk razu_ (n=razu@ip220.cab17.mus.starman.ee) |
| 18:05.59 | davidw | weird:-/ |
| 18:06.30 | wunderkin | hmm how about this.. anyone with a pri here that could do a quick favor for me? |
| 18:06.45 | wunderkin | (LD PRI) |
| 18:06.49 | riddlebox | can you access your voicemail from outside, like when you call in and hear your greeting, can you press * to get to the login prompt? |
| 18:06.56 | *** join/#asterisk chapeaurouge (n=chapeaur@85.201.81.201) |
| 18:07.26 | ManxPower | riddlebox, see "show application voicemail" pay special attention to the "a" and "o" extens listed |
| 18:07.32 | [TK]D-Fender | riddlebox : Its all in how you set up your dial-plan. |
| 18:07.43 | [TK]D-Fender | Make an exten in your menu that will allow you access to voicemailmain |
| 18:07.53 | riddlebox | ok |
| 18:08.07 | davidw | ok... outgoing voice call over CAPI gets done twice as well |
| 18:08.09 | davidw | very weird |
| 18:08.33 | [TK]D-Fender | riddlebox : And defiantely set up a STDEXTEN style macro and use the "a" exten for entering your VM box... |
| 18:08.53 | ManxPower | davidw, well put the CLI output on pastebin.ca |
| 18:10.46 | *** join/#asterisk nmsclera (n=arthurh@71-33-40-22.albq.qwest.net) |
| 18:10.55 | davidw | http://pastebin.ca/35174 |
| 18:11.51 | davidw | it calls up, waits(3), does saydigits(666) and then hangup() |
| 18:12.22 | *** part/#asterisk Utah_Dave (n=boucha@0-1pool138-70.nas28.salt-lake-city1.ut.us.da.qwest.net) |
| 18:12.32 | fugitivo | username=87777 |
| 18:12.32 | fugitivo | user=87777 |
| 18:12.32 | fugitivo | type=peer |
| 18:12.32 | fugitivo | secret=87777 |
| 18:12.32 | fugitivo | insecure=very |
| 18:12.32 | fugitivo | host=sip.ia.com.ar |
| 18:12.33 | *** join/#asterisk DarthClue (n=DarthClu@adsl-69-153-33-232.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) |
| 18:12.34 | fugitivo | fromdomain=sip.ia.com.ar |
| 18:12.36 | fugitivo | context=mainmenu |
| 18:12.39 | fugitivo | callerid=87777 |
| 18:12.40 | fugitivo | ouch |
| 18:12.44 | nmsclera | What would be the appropriate process to debug DTMF issues. We're connecting to a SIP Provider via G729, tried different combinations of info and rfc2833 / relaxdtmf etc.. but for some reason inbound dtmf is not working at all.. |
| 18:12.44 | fugitivo | lol |
| 18:13.05 | Katty | hmm. |
| 18:13.15 | fugitivo | damn middle mouse button |
| 18:13.33 | iCEBrkr | fugitivo: You're fired |
| 18:13.49 | [TK]D-Fender | nmsclera : pastebin your current sip.conf (masking PW's) and we'll take a look |
| 18:13.57 | fugitivo | iCEBrkr: shhhh |
| 18:14.11 | [TK]D-Fender | ~pb |
| 18:14.14 | jbot | pb is probably a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.com/, or http://pastebin.ca |
| 18:14.30 | Katty | fugitivo: you're fired /and/ you must stay. |
| 18:14.31 | davidw | ManxPower, can you make heads or tales of why it's running that twice? |
| 18:15.00 | Katty | DarthClue: hey you (= |
| 18:15.24 | iCEBrkr | ha |
| 18:16.19 | Katty | :< |
| 18:16.31 | ManxPower | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:16.41 | Katty | also, my soy nog has gotten cold. |
| 18:16.44 | Katty | this is just awful. |
| 18:16.48 | DarthClue | I had to move. Went way South. Almost to Mexico. |
| 18:17.03 | Qwell | DarthClue: California? |
| 18:17.05 | Katty | DarthClue: why did you move? |
| 18:17.05 | Qwell | heh |
| 18:17.10 | davidw | ManxPower, so... mmm why would that cause it to run twice? |
| 18:17.14 | ManxPower | davidw, also looks to me like Asterisk does not have permission to modify the .call file.l |
| 18:17.35 | DarthClue | Texas, an hour from civilization, 5 minutes from a Wal-Mart, 30 minutes from Mexico. |
| 18:17.36 | davidw | ManxPower, yeah, but would that cause it to run twice? |
| 18:17.42 | Qwell | bbl |
| 18:17.48 | ManxPower | davidw, I can see how it might. |
| 18:17.48 | *** join/#asterisk SplasPood (n=jwb@brooklyn.paravolve.net) |
| 18:18.05 | davidw | mmmmm mm I guess if it keeps track of state by modifying it it might... eah |
| 18:18.31 | davidw | ugh... now it just worked... |
| 18:18.37 | SwK[Work] | anyone know if there is something I can send to /dev/zap/ctl to force a span to go out of loop? |
| 18:18.55 | ManxPower | SwK, zttool, tell it to unloop. |
| 18:18.55 | DarthClue | Katty, was time to do so. Needed a change of environment. |
| 18:19.05 | SwK[Work] | ManxPower: hah yeah right |
| 18:19.10 | ManxPower | Unless of course your TELCO has the loop set, in which case call the telco |
| 18:19.28 | ManxPower | SwK, Um, why is zttool not acceptable? |
| 18:19.31 | SwK[Work] | ManxPower: telco sent a loop up command and we did, now its hung there and they cant even see the loop up |
| 18:19.53 | ManxPower | SwK, pick the span from zttool, pick loop, then pick loop again. |
| 18:20.00 | ManxPower | or just unplug the cable from the card |
| 18:20.02 | *** join/#asterisk Nube101 (n=boanthra@pool-151-203-204-70.bos.east.verizon.net) |
| 18:20.06 | ManxPower | or stop asterisk and unload the card driver |
| 18:20.07 | *** join/#asterisk postel (n=jk@area41.OSPF.netmonks.net) |
| 18:20.24 | wunderkin | SwK[Work], i was told that its not possible to loop up the card.. but then im not sure what the loop option is for in zttool then |
| 18:20.26 | SwK[Work] | cant restart asterisk... gotta about 50 calls up on it already |
| 18:20.28 | ManxPower | SwK, Get them to loop to the smartjack |
| 18:20.54 | ManxPower | SwK, You have more than 1 span? |
| 18:20.57 | SwK[Work] | yes |
| 18:21.16 | Katty | DarthClue: k |
| 18:21.18 | Katty | SwK[Work]: k |
| 18:21.19 | Katty | i mean |
| 18:21.20 | SwK[Work] | not on the same T but the box as 3 active PRIs in it |
| 18:21.21 | Katty | SwK[Work]: hi |
| 18:21.24 | SwK[Work] | hey katty |
| 18:21.36 | *** join/#asterisk pakipenguin (n=Junaid@linuxpakistan/admin/pakipenguin) |
| 18:21.46 | *** join/#asterisk J4k3 (i=j4k3@node218-157-88-65.1dial.com) |
| 18:21.47 | ManxPower | SwK, have they looped from the CO to the smartjack? |
| 18:21.51 | SwK[Work] | as far as zttool... it just hangs as of late |
| 18:21.59 | SwK[Work] | yes they have |
| 18:22.03 | *** part/#asterisk J4k3 (i=j4k3@node218-157-88-65.1dial.com) |
| 18:22.09 | wunderkin | oh, i guess i mean remote loopup.. but im not sure why it didnt work when i try to loop it.. shrug |
| 18:22.10 | *** join/#asterisk L|NUX (i=linux@203.101.165.132) |
| 18:22.24 | ManxPower | SwK, and they have seen no problems or errors after keeping the loop for 30 mins? |
| 18:22.34 | SwK[Work] | the funny thing is we both see good framing and timing and all the alarms clear ok... the D chan bounces on one box and doesnt do shit on the other... and the B's dont come up either |
| 18:22.49 | SwK[Work] | loop pattern test etc etc etc |
| 18:23.01 | ManxPower | sounds to me like a interrupt latency issue. |
| 18:23.06 | *** join/#asterisk schuyler_ (n=schuyler@gateway.digium.com) |
| 18:23.09 | SwK[Work] | nope... 9 misses |
| 18:23.15 | ManxPower | do you get HLDC abort errors? |
| 18:24.02 | SwK[Work] | and if it was an interupt problem or a hardware issue it wouldnt give the same or very similar symptoms on a different box with a TE110 in it |
| 18:24.03 | SwK[Work] | nope |
| 18:24.28 | ManxPower | SwK, only if that box wa a different motherboard/shipset |
| 18:24.47 | nmsclera | [TK]D-Fender: http://pastebin.com/483125 |
| 18:25.04 | SwK[Work] | same and same |
| 18:25.06 | davidw | will try again tomorrow |
| 18:25.24 | nmsclera | [TK]D-Fender: Sorry took so long, had to clean it up a bit, take out all kinds of commented out crap |
| 18:25.31 | SwK[Work] | we know the T1 has an issue on the Carrier side |
| 18:25.39 | *** join/#asterisk J4k3 (i=j4k3@node218-157-88-65.1dial.com) |
| 18:25.49 | *** part/#asterisk J4k3 (i=j4k3@node218-157-88-65.1dial.com) |
| 18:26.20 | SwK[Work] | my original question was is there a way without resetting the entire card is there something i can send to dev/za/ctl to restart just that 1 span |
| 18:28.28 | *** join/#asterisk saftsack (n=saftsack@p54A7E001.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 18:28.29 | saftsack | hi |
| 18:28.33 | saftsack | has someone of you asterisk? |
| 18:28.40 | [TK]D-Fender | nmsclera : Ok, which is for your ITSP, and what standard are they supposed to be using for DTMF? |
| 18:28.42 | saftsack | aeeh wow didnt think |
| 18:28.55 | saftsack | i wanted to ask if someone has asterisk with misdn ^^ |
| 18:29.42 | nmsclera | [TK]D-Fender: I'm not entirely sure, have a call in though -- are there any other options via g729 other than info and rfc2833? |
| 18:30.25 | harryvv | does a callfile need a contect in extentions.conf to send out a fax? somone in private chat asked me that and it did not sound right. |
| 18:30.27 | [TK]D-Fender | nmsclera : there is inband. but you should be using what your provider TELLS you to. |
| 18:30.40 | nmsclera | [TK]D-Fender: ITSP is oneconnect (the only register addy) |
| 18:30.42 | pakipenguin | [TK]D-Fender, i have problems with g729 and dtmf doesnt seem to work |
| 18:30.43 | pakipenguin | :( |
| 18:30.46 | iCEBrkr | harryvv: It needs a context, sure |
| 18:30.52 | [TK]D-Fender | And DTMF doesn't have anything to do with the codec. |
| 18:30.52 | harryvv | okay created one. |
| 18:30.55 | harryvv | But |
| 18:30.58 | nmsclera | [TK]D-Fender: g729 supports inband? |
| 18:31.13 | harryvv | What is caller mean in |
| 18:31.15 | nmsclera | [TK]D-Fender: I get a slew of messages on the console when I did try inband |
| 18:31.15 | harryvv | [callme] |
| 18:31.15 | harryvv | exten => s,1,Wait(3) |
| 18:31.15 | harryvv | exten => s,2,TxFax(${FAXFILE}|caller) |
| 18:31.20 | [TK]D-Fender | nmsclera : inband means * detects DTMF in the audio stream regardless of which codec. |
| 18:31.25 | harryvv | |caller |
| 18:31.46 | [TK]D-Fender | nmsclera : Make sure you are using what your provider suggests. |
| 18:31.46 | iCEBrkr | harryvv: huh? |
| 18:31.51 | nmsclera | [TK]D-Fender: I understand what inband means, but I understood that inband does not function properly with any non ulaw protocol |
| 18:32.04 | nmsclera | or uncompressed |
| 18:32.08 | harryvv | iCEBrkr It is a example on http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk+auto-dial+out |
| 18:32.13 | [TK]D-Fender | nmsclera : news to me, but ok...... |
| 18:32.37 | nmsclera | [TK]D-Fender: Primiarly because the compression distorts the autio |
| 18:32.43 | nmsclera | [TK]D-Fender: Audio, even. |
| 18:32.45 | [TK]D-Fender | Then they should be providing it by INFO or RFC2833.You need to confirm with them. |
| 18:33.08 | harryvv | wait, sorry that contect in extentions.conf was given to me by another user. |
| 18:33.16 | iCEBrkr | harryvv: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/app_rxfax+and+app_txfax |
| 18:34.04 | nmsclera | And another question for everyone, speaking of rxfax and txfax -- what are the overall results for faxing over uncompressed codecs (SIP Fax channels)? They work well? |
| 18:34.50 | harryvv | Ice, I was testing callfile |
| 18:34.52 | *** join/#asterisk Sedorox (i=brandon@smartserv/cna/Sedorox) |
| 18:34.55 | harryvv | not just sending a fax. |
| 18:35.05 | iCEBrkr | harryvv: ok, so one thing at a time. |
| 18:35.40 | asterboy | ~fwd |
| 18:35.42 | jbot | i heard fwd is Free World Dialup: Brainchild of Jeff Pulver. URL: http://www.pulver.com/fwd/ |
| 18:36.00 | harryvv | iCEBrkr we can talk here or in private..show some of my configs. |
| 18:36.11 | iCEBrkr | harryvv: I'm still confused as to what you're having problems with |
| 18:36.13 | file | this server hates me... it has to |
| 18:36.30 | saftsack | are there more stable versions of spandsp now? |
| 18:36.53 | ManxPower | [TK]D-Fender, He is correct. Only ulaw and alaw transport DTMF and tones correctly. |
| 18:37.10 | ManxPower | the reason there is such a thing as OOB (RFC2833) DTMF is because of this. |
| 18:37.28 | harryvv | iCEBrkr baicly just want to make a callfile that will send a test fax of a tif image. |
| 18:37.58 | iCEBrkr | harryvv: ok, in your call file just set the Context: to your [fax] context |
| 18:38.13 | harryvv | ie, directory/image.tif |
| 18:38.34 | iCEBrkr | no |
| 18:38.45 | *** join/#asterisk Xen^ (i=linux@203.101.161.17) |
| 18:39.22 | _Sam-- | hey manx: as earlier, i have two asterisk boxes talking to eachother via IAX on the same LAN segment (192.168)...one is a gateway. if i call the non-gateway box from an internal phone on the 192 network it sounds perfect...if i try to call out through the non-gatway box (which uses the other * box as the gateway) the calls sound terrible...what should i check? |
| 18:39.23 | iCEBrkr | harryvv: So which is it? faxing or callfile? |
| 18:39.42 | ManxPower | saftsack, with recent verisons of SpanDSP the only time people have problems is when they try to send over VoIP |
| 18:40.01 | ManxPower | _Sam--, no idea |
| 18:40.25 | harryvv | ice, send a fax for example one phone number with callfile. Then in the future, may want to send to 10 or more numbers. |
| 18:40.33 | saftsack | ManxPower, sounds great :) |
| 18:40.46 | iCEBrkr | harryvv: Ok, so you can create a call file, right? |
| 18:40.51 | harryvv | sure |
| 18:40.52 | *** join/#asterisk jeffgus (n=jeffgus@greengables.zimage.com) |
| 18:41.04 | iCEBrkr | harryvv: and you understand the Context: line within the call file? |
| 18:41.14 | *** join/#asterisk privalodc (n=someone@Toronto-HSE-ppp3715118.sympatico.ca) |
| 18:41.17 | harryvv | made one...just directing SetVar to the directory where the tif image is. I have read it. |
| 18:41.30 | iCEBrkr | harryvv: and you understand the Context: line within the call file? |
| 18:41.34 | privalodc | Anyone wants to help me get a Dchannel up on a PCI with a Sangoma A102? |
| 18:41.55 | iCEBrkr | privalodc: You need to talk to your telco on that one |
| 18:42.48 | privalodc | Allstream was just here to test the loop... |
| 18:42.57 | rikstah | privalodc, whats the prob |
| 18:43.19 | privalodc | rikstah: The dchannel does not get up... |
| 18:43.36 | rikstah | what errors |
| 18:43.38 | iCEBrkr | Viagra |
| 18:44.14 | saftsack | ManxPower, do you know what versions are recent? |
| 18:44.15 | privalodc | Timeout occured, restarting PRI |
| 18:44.27 | privalodc | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:44.36 | rikstah | no good |
| 18:44.40 | harryvv | iCEBrkr so far no responce. Im sure spandsp is installed on @home it has fax test feature which I have tested. |
| 18:44.49 | privalodc | T200 counter expired, What to do... |
| 18:45.07 | iCEBrkr | harryvv: ok, have you created a callfile to dial your cellphone or some other number? |
| 18:45.25 | harryvv | a fax number |
| 18:45.41 | harryvv | could try to make it call my softphone extention. |
| 18:45.45 | iCEBrkr | does the fax ring? |
| 18:45.47 | harryvv | so at least i can hear it. |
| 18:45.57 | harryvv | fax is across town |
| 18:46.11 | iCEBrkr | harryvv: well, make a call file that dials a number you can answer |
| 18:46.15 | iCEBrkr | harryvv: or hear ring |
| 18:46.23 | privalodc | Any ideas? |
| 18:46.26 | pakipenguin | anyone knows if there is a neat/working implemenetation of web call back? |
| 18:46.32 | harryvv | going to have it call my polycom. |
| 18:47.07 | *** part/#asterisk schuyler_ (n=schuyler@gateway.digium.com) |
| 18:47.19 | *** join/#asterisk alephcom (n=alephcom@openbsd.hagenhomes.net) |
| 18:47.36 | asterboy | Anyone testing FWDin and FWDout? |
| 18:48.18 | *** join/#asterisk RoyK (n=roy@host-81-191-147-248.bluecom.no) |
| 18:48.42 | privalodc | rikstah: those messages ring a bell? |
| 18:49.32 | *** join/#asterisk Darkhalf (n=darkhalf@cpe-70-93-239-175.san.res.rr.com) |
| 18:49.59 | asterboy | benjk will like this: http://www.freeworlddialup.com/help/?p=knowledgebase&c=1&a=20 |
| 18:50.40 | [TK]D-Fender | privalodc : JF? |
| 18:51.06 | rikstah | privalodc, there isn't enough detail |
| 18:51.26 | *** part/#asterisk alephcom (n=alephcom@openbsd.hagenhomes.net) |
| 18:52.08 | [TK]D-Fender | privalodc : What does "wanrouter status" say? |
| 18:52.41 | harryvv | iCEBrkr in SetVar: I need to point to the file to be faxed? like SetVar: TMP=/PATHname/File.tif ? |
| 18:53.02 | iCEBrkr | harryvv: have you gotten it to dial? |
| 18:53.13 | harryvv | no im not at that stage yet |
| 18:53.21 | iCEBrkr | harryvv: then why are you worried about setvar? |
| 18:53.29 | harryvv | Am I right? |
| 18:53.49 | iCEBrkr | This is why people can't figure shit out.. They're all over the map, working in a star pattern.. |
| 18:53.53 | iCEBrkr | harryvv: you got ADD? |
| 18:54.19 | [TK]D-Fender | iCEBrkr : Multi-threading! |
| 18:54.23 | iCEBrkr | harryvv: using SetVar vs. Set depends on your version of Asterisk. |
| 18:54.36 | iCEBrkr | [TK]D-Fender: Someone can't keep track of the mutexes |
| 18:56.37 | saftsack | how can i proof if my isdn card has a hardware contact to the ntba? |
| 18:57.10 | pakipenguin | saftsack, send a call to ur isdn , you should see something in messages |
| 18:57.36 | harryvv | odd, I write the file testcall.call to /var/spool/asterisk/outgoing and it does not show up. Does asterisk delete this file after the call has been made? |
| 18:58.18 | privalodc | Devices currently active: |
| 18:58.18 | privalodc | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:58.18 | privalodc | Wanpipe Config: |
| 18:58.18 | privalodc | Device name | Protocol Map | Adapter | IRQ | Slot/IO | If's | CLK | Baud rate | |
| 18:58.18 | privalodc | wanpipe1 | N/A | A101/2 | 22 | 1 | 1 | EXT | 0 | |
| 18:58.18 | privalodc | Wanrouter Status: |
| 18:58.20 | privalodc | Device name | Protocol | Station | Status | |
| 18:58.22 | privalodc | wanpipe1 | AFT HDLC | N/A | Connected | |
| 18:58.47 | *** join/#asterisk KrayZK (n=ykhan3@mbl-99-57-76.dsl.net.pk) |
| 18:58.50 | saftsack | pakipenguin, hmm asterisk doesnt start because the card has no connect |
| 18:59.05 | saftsack | and i thought, that i can receive informations from a more base layer |
| 18:59.05 | pakipenguin | that is strange |
| 18:59.17 | saftsack | i tested the second cable now |
| 18:59.32 | iCEBrkr | harryvv: huh yup |
| 18:59.32 | saftsack | maybe the card is broken? |
| 18:59.34 | KrayZK | Please help, voice quality on IAX is very bad |
| 18:59.38 | pakipenguin | not really? |
| 18:59.45 | saftsack | pakipenguin, dunno |
| 18:59.56 | harryvv | iCEBrkr mm well its not making the calls. |
| 19:00.02 | Peggger | asterisk is supos to be runing on port udp 4569 but which i do a nmap -sU on the box which only nmaps for udp i dont get any 4569 only 111, 123, 668 and 671 what is going on here? |
| 19:00.08 | [TK]D-Fender | privalodc : You should set up your card to clock external (telco). You'll need it for sync |
| 19:00.24 | iCEBrkr | harryvv: Watch the CLI after you move the file into outgoing |
| 19:00.53 | privalodc | [TK]D-Fender: Ok, will look at that |
| 19:01.26 | KrayZK | how can I improve voice quality on IAX channels, I even have jitterbuffer enabled |
| 19:01.34 | Peggger | I need to figure out this port stuff so I can open it on my firewall |
| 19:01.37 | iCEBrkr | KrayZK: Get more bandwidth |
| 19:01.50 | iCEBrkr | KrayZK: and block eMule and other file sharing apps |
| 19:01.51 | privalodc | [TK]D-Fender: Whare is that set by the way? |
| 19:02.03 | iCEBrkr | Peggger: read the wiki. |
| 19:02.14 | harryvv | ice, good point |
| 19:03.49 | *** part/#asterisk genmud (n=genmud@ip68-98-82-206.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 19:04.09 | *** join/#asterisk genmud (n=genmud@ip68-98-82-206.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 19:04.10 | saftsack | pakipenguin, can i take a normal ethernatcable? |
| 19:04.24 | pakipenguin | umm nope |
| 19:04.27 | pakipenguin | i dont think so |
| 19:04.37 | pakipenguin | you have this setup |
| 19:04.39 | harryvv | iCEBrkr nothing happening on cli so far |
| 19:04.47 | pakipenguin | telco --> NTU ---> your card? |
| 19:04.49 | saftsack | k because i have an ethernetcable for testing |
| 19:04.51 | ManxPower | A standard ethernet cable will work as a T-1 cable. |
| 19:05.02 | saftsack | but my isdn cable doesnt work too :( |
| 19:05.09 | ManxPower | HOWEVER, a ethernet crossover cable will NOT work as a T-1 crossover cable. |
| 19:05.12 | iCEBrkr | harryvv: odd, you should see it dial |
| 19:05.43 | iCEBrkr | harryvv: set verbose 4 |
| 19:05.44 | ManxPower | ISDN is two wire and will work with most ANY regular telephone cable. |
| 19:06.08 | [TK]D-Fender | privalodc : thats in your wancfg. |
| 19:06.29 | *** join/#asterisk bkw_ (n=bkw_@ppp-69-155-251-101.dsl.tulsok.swbell.net) |
| 19:06.32 | pakipenguin | yes |
| 19:06.53 | harryvv | [callme] |
| 19:06.53 | harryvv | exten => s,1,Wait(3) |
| 19:06.53 | harryvv | exten => s,2,TxFax(${FAXFILE}|caller) |
| 19:06.53 | harryvv | Channel: Zap/1/604xxxxxxx |
| 19:06.54 | harryvv | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:06.56 | harryvv | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:06.58 | harryvv | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:07.00 | harryvv | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:07.02 | harryvv | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:07.04 | harryvv | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:07.06 | harryvv | What is the extnetion part for? |
| 19:07.06 | RoyK | ~pb |
| 19:07.08 | jbot | hmm... pb is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.com/, or http://pastebin.ca |
| 19:07.12 | iCEBrkr | harryvv: Dude, you know about pastbin man |
| 19:07.20 | KrayZK | I have more than enough I think only 5 channels and 512 kbps bandwidth |
| 19:07.20 | harryvv | yup |
| 19:07.24 | iCEBrkr | use it |
| 19:07.42 | iCEBrkr | KrayZK: yeah? and how many calls at once? |
| 19:07.49 | docelmo | Yippie! |
| 19:07.56 | KrayZK | what is eMule and how do I start stop it, or even find out if it is installed |
| 19:08.02 | iCEBrkr | docelmo: What are you all yippie about? |
| 19:08.03 | KrayZK | only 5 |
| 19:08.13 | docelmo | dunno.. Im still on vacation? :) |
| 19:08.21 | iCEBrkr | docelmo: screw you |
| 19:08.22 | harryvv | http://pastebin.ca/35181 |
| 19:08.26 | TheCops | [TK]D-Fender, wow, polycom centralized phone config is kinda complicated for a normal computer guys, I gave the job to a employee to learn the phone...but when he arrived in the XML config section |
| 19:08.30 | [TK]D-Fender | privalodc : TE CLOCK MODE = normal in t1 advanced configuration optiosn. |
| 19:08.31 | docelmo | haha |
| 19:08.31 | _DAW | Does anyone have an opinion on the reliability of realtime in 1.2? |
| 19:08.53 | iCEBrkr | _DAW: I personally wouldn't use it |
| 19:09.24 | Vijay | are there any issues in practical implementation of 1.2? |
| 19:09.25 | saftsack | pakipenguin, what do you think can be broken? |
| 19:09.29 | _DAW | I get that impression from much of what I have read. |
| 19:09.30 | iCEBrkr | harryvv: Extension is the extension in your [context] |
| 19:09.38 | pakipenguin | umm saftsack either the cable |
| 19:09.40 | pakipenguin | or your card |
| 19:09.43 | KrayZK | iCEBrkr: any ideas? |
| 19:09.46 | pakipenguin | is your ntu synced with the exchange? |
| 19:09.47 | harryvv | yes? |
| 19:09.47 | iCEBrkr | Vijay: Yea, know what the hell you're doing first |
| 19:09.48 | saftsack | the card is 2 weeks old :( |
| 19:10.07 | saftsack | im going to test the cable now with a telephone on my normal tk |
| 19:10.15 | [TK]D-Fender | TheCops : Poly's XML isn't that hard.... shouldn't take long. |
| 19:10.23 | *** join/#asterisk gdsaf3 (n=root@telmo.ifxnw.com.ar) |
| 19:10.31 | *** join/#asterisk jeffik (n=Jeff@CPE0050babf4cd5-CM014350000760.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 19:10.34 | iCEBrkr | saftsack: if you can test that cable with a normal phone, you got the wrong cable. :) |
| 19:10.49 | TheCops | [TK]D-Fender for a guys who never seen an HTML or any programming code, this is scared for him lol |
| 19:10.55 | TheCops | I'll be obligate to learn it alone |
| 19:10.56 | TheCops | errr |
| 19:11.18 | [TK]D-Fender | TheCops : I may just pass you a working sample later. |
| 19:11.37 | _DAW | TheCops: Give them a copy of XMLexplorer. The gui makes it less intimidating. |
| 19:12.07 | TheCops | [TK]D-Fender, I found something on the voip info wiki, some sample... |
| 19:12.12 | TheCops | I'll work from that files |
| 19:12.14 | iCEBrkr | harryvv: and you're Priority: is wrong too |
| 19:12.20 | [TK]D-Fender | CAREFUL ON THAT |
| 19:12.21 | TheCops | lol |
| 19:12.39 | [TK]D-Fender | Poly XML configs are version specific. What SIP image did your's come loaded with? |
| 19:12.42 | *** join/#asterisk MikeJ[Laptop] (n=ircatjer@d14-69-8-30.try.wideopenwest.com) |
| 19:12.53 | TheCops | 1.6.2 If I remember |
| 19:13.15 | TheCops | I'll have to verify but I'm kind sure |
| 19:13.28 | [TK]D-Fender | Make sure, then download the appropriate firmware/ sample pack and base your's off of that. |
| 19:13.30 | KrayZK | iCEBrkr: I'm using 5 systems dialing, Xlite to Asterisk aLaw and Asterisk to VoIP Provider GSM |
| 19:13.54 | KrayZK | and I don't have eMule running or installed |
| 19:13.55 | saftsack | iCEBrkr, ??? |
| 19:14.11 | iCEBrkr | < saftsack> im going to test the cable now with a telephone on my normal |
| 19:14.11 | iCEBrkr | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:14.13 | saftsack | on a ntport i can connect a one to one cable |
| 19:14.25 | saftsack | and on a telephone to |
| 19:14.40 | saftsack | i need just a crossed cable if i configure my card to provide a nt port |
| 19:14.49 | privalodc | [TK]D-Fender: I got TE_CLOCK = NORMAL and TE_REF_CLOCK = 1 now. |
| 19:15.03 | saftsack | iCEBrkr, do you agree? |
| 19:15.08 | iCEBrkr | saftsack: no. |
| 19:15.21 | TheCops | [TK]D-Fender, XML sample are in the firmware files from Polycom website ? |
| 19:15.33 | saftsack | hmm i have many cards which are working on a normal cable |
| 19:15.40 | saftsack | iCEBrkr, what for a cable do i need? |
| 19:15.51 | *** join/#asterisk razu_ (n=razu@217-159-240-134-dsl.est.estpak.ee) |
| 19:15.51 | pakipenguin | saftsack, a 4 wire cable |
| 19:15.58 | harryvv | ice, so what you are saying is drop the extention => s,1,Wait (3) and put 800 in the place of s ? |
| 19:16.12 | saftsack | and 6 wire cable doesnt work? |
| 19:16.23 | KrayZK | please help me, I am being beaten over the head repeatedly with a large club, because agents can't hear the customer or the customer can't hear agent |
| 19:16.26 | iCEBrkr | harryvv: Do you understand the concept of contexts, extensions and priorities?? |
| 19:16.29 | harryvv | sure |
| 19:16.31 | saftsack | because avm ships the cards with a 6 wire cable |
| 19:16.43 | harryvv | Just some guy here who showed me his...obviosly does not. |
| 19:16.44 | harryvv | :) |
| 19:16.47 | iCEBrkr | harryvv: If you did, all of this would make sense :) |
| 19:16.55 | saftsack | do the avm cards need other cables than the hfc cards? |
| 19:17.04 | iCEBrkr | harryvv: hold up a sec |
| 19:17.15 | harryvv | yea..he did not know what he was doing. I just never messed with call files thats all. |
| 19:17.27 | iCEBrkr | It's all one for one. |
| 19:17.38 | iCEBrkr | Set the context.. Set the extension, set the priority |
| 19:17.40 | saftsack | iCEBrkr, do you have a link where i can read everything about isdn cables? |
| 19:17.48 | KrayZK | * now bleeding profusely, but still can't manage to improve voice quality |
| 19:17.54 | iCEBrkr | saftsack: Yeah, it's called www.google.com |
| 19:18.24 | saftsack | im looking there already thanks |
| 19:18.52 | [TK]D-Fender | TheCops : http://www.freedomphones.net/polycom/files/ |
| 19:19.23 | KrayZK | IAX and bad voice, anyone....going once...going twice... |
| 19:19.33 | iCEBrkr | harryvv: http://pastebin.ca/35185 |
| 19:19.59 | [TK]D-Fender | privalodc : So kill *, do a "wanrouter restart", then "wanrouter status" until its up 100%, thenr estart * |
| 19:20.39 | *** join/#asterisk kio (n=kio@ool-4577adba.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 19:20.41 | KrayZK | I can't seem to pinpoint the voice quality issue on IAX channels |
| 19:20.51 | iCEBrkr | KrayZK: how do you know it's the IAX leg? |
| 19:20.58 | *** join/#asterisk oej (n=oej@apollo.webway.se) |
| 19:21.07 | saftsack | iCEBrkr, i have a 4 wired cable here |
| 19:21.07 | fugitivo | KrayZK: what devices are you using? |
| 19:21.22 | KrayZK | because calls between extensions are just fine |
| 19:21.30 | saftsack | its not crossed and it doesnt work on my hfc card in te but on a telephone |
| 19:21.37 | saftsack | so my isdn card is broken, right? |
| 19:21.52 | iCEBrkr | KrayZK: How do you know it's not a problem between the second Asterisk box ==> SIP |
| 19:22.18 | RoyK | saftsack: get another hfc card and wire a loop |
| 19:22.24 | KrayZK | the second asterisk box is using IAX |
| 19:22.30 | RoyK | btw isdn is 4 wire, not two |
| 19:22.52 | RoyK | the S0 bus, to which the hfc card is supposed to be attached, is a 4-wire bus |
| 19:22.52 | saftsack | i didnt say 2 wire |
| 19:22.54 | iCEBrkr | KrayZK: ok, so what's the layout then?? |
| 19:22.58 | saftsack | i have a 4 wire cable here |
| 19:23.07 | saftsack | and that cable works on my isdn telephone |
| 19:23.12 | RoyK | someone said 2-wire... |
| 19:23.19 | saftsack | someone said crap ^^ |
| 19:23.34 | RoyK | saftsack: what driver? visdn or bristuff? |
| 19:23.41 | saftsack | a loop? do you mean from card one to card two? |
| 19:23.45 | saftsack | RoyK, no, misdn |
| 19:23.51 | RoyK | ouch |
| 19:23.56 | KrayZK | a few things i tried are: placing calls only on alaw to reduce transcoding; enabled jitterbuffer, tried trunking which gets rejected from the provider |
| 19:23.58 | RoyK | saftsack: yes, from card to card |
| 19:24.00 | saftsack | what ouch? ^^ |
| 19:24.07 | RoyK | saftsack: one in TE mode and one in NT mode |
| 19:24.09 | *** join/#asterisk BugKham (i=BugKham@61.47.108.39) |
| 19:24.10 | saftsack | yes ok |
| 19:24.16 | RoyK | saftsack: try bristuff, works for me (tm) |
| 19:24.22 | saftsack | but i need a crossed cable then or? |
| 19:24.42 | saftsack | RoyK, it worked already with the actual config, so i think, that the card is broken |
| 19:24.44 | KrayZK | I have 5 SIP Xlite softphones connecting using SIP to my asterisk box and an IAX connection with the provider |
| 19:25.03 | BugKham | anyone knows where to find compilation information about nist-sip? |
| 19:25.05 | saftsack | so im going to implement the second card now |
| 19:25.09 | iCEBrkr | KrayZK: I still think you have bandwidth issues |
| 19:25.16 | *** part/#asterisk SplasPood (n=jwb@brooklyn.paravolve.net) |
| 19:25.35 | [TK]D-Fender | iCEBrkr : Hey, your dumb-ass telco do their job yet? |
| 19:25.46 | iCEBrkr | [TK]D-Fender: I haven't even cared at this moment. |
| 19:25.51 | [TK]D-Fender | :/ |
| 19:26.02 | KrayZK | even with 512 kbps for 5 systems only, when I run iftop, my outgoing connections show only 25 kbps used/channels |
| 19:26.04 | iCEBrkr | [TK]D-Fender: I got my Miami stuff working and tested.. I just got a new server in yesterday. So I'll be building that. |
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| 19:26.13 | RoyK | saftsack: i beleive bristuff currently works better than misdn |
| 19:26.18 | RoyK | although i do not know for sure |
| 19:26.23 | iCEBrkr | [TK]D-Fender: I can't me leaving the PRIs in alarm as they'll just flip them into loop-back |
| 19:26.27 | iCEBrkr | s/me/be |
| 19:26.59 | harryvv | iCEBrkr is the call file execution instantanius when the file is moved or saved there? |
| 19:27.10 | iCEBrkr | harryvv: pretty much |
| 19:27.23 | fugitivo | copy, never move |
| 19:27.24 | KrayZK | I have the same problem even when one agent is dialing, b ut it develops slowly over time |
| 19:27.32 | iCEBrkr | fugitivo: Stoner? |
| 19:27.34 | harryvv | fug, okay :) |
| 19:27.37 | iCEBrkr | fugitivo: you move the file. |
| 19:28.02 | ManxPower | fugitivo, no, for .call files you MOVE not COPY. |
| 19:28.05 | malverian[work] | Anyone here using spandsp/app_rxfax ? |
| 19:28.12 | fugitivo | ManxPower: it depends |
| 19:28.16 | iCEBrkr | ManxPower: He's stoned. |
| 19:28.20 | iCEBrkr | fugitivo: depends? |
| 19:28.22 | KrayZK | iCEBrkr: infact the problem usually gets worse over time |
| 19:28.24 | _Sam-- | im trying to setup broadvoice as a backup for our termination....i can register and receive calls in through the broadvoice number, but i cant make outgoing: Dec 29 14:27:30 WARNING[30018]: chan_sip.c:1966 create_addr: No such host: sip.broadvoice.com/13029833466 |
| 19:28.24 | ManxPower | move is an atomic operation so there is no change the file is 1/2 written when Asterisk reads it. |
| 19:28.25 | fugitivo | ManxPower: if the .call file has errors, you'll lose the file |
| 19:28.26 | malverian[work] | Sorry, more specifically, is anyone using spandsp-0.0.2_pre20 with app_rxfax |
| 19:28.33 | fugitivo | ManxPower: and you'll need to rewrite it |
| 19:28.36 | ManxPower | iCEBrkr, A little early in the day for that. |
| 19:28.44 | malverian[work] | And if so, does it work best with a specific version of the rxfax module? |
| 19:28.45 | iCEBrkr | ManxPower: Tell him that. |
| 19:28.47 | iCEBrkr | fugitivo: you're stoned. |
| 19:29.07 | ManxPower | fugitivo, you can always copy into another filename, then move THAT file. |
| 19:29.10 | _Sam-- | the sip.broadvoice.com has a context in my sip.conf...and it points to the right host |
| 19:29.11 | iCEBrkr | fugitivo: You MOVE the file. Because there's a chance Asterisk will find the file and read it without the copy being completed. |
| 19:29.25 | fugitivo | never happened to me |
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| 19:29.40 | KrayZK | I can't seem to pinpoint the voice quality issue on IAX channels |
| 19:29.44 | iCEBrkr | fugitivo: The possibility exists. |
| 19:29.45 | ManxPower | Or you can create the file, then set the time on the file to be way in the future (keeps asterisk from trying to process it), then write the file, close the file, then set the time on the file to the current time. |
| 19:29.51 | KrayZK | IAX and bad voice, anyone....going once...going twice... |
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| 19:32.08 | harryvv | iCEBrkr here is what I have again. http://pastebin.ca/35190 |
| 19:32.32 | iCEBrkr | harryvv: I edited yours and updated it.. did you see it? |
| 19:32.37 | harryvv | sorry no |
| 19:32.43 | ManxPower | KrayZK, do an "iax2 show channels" when there is an active call. notice the lag and jitter |
| 19:32.51 | iCEBrkr | harryvv: http://pastebin.ca/35185 |
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| 19:33.50 | harryvv | your changes are below the == line? |
| 19:33.57 | iCEBrkr | above. |
| 19:34.12 | harryvv | yea sorry yea see that |
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| 19:35.14 | harryvv | as far as the file the call file grabs is SetVar: tmp=/pathtofile/filename.tif correct ? |
| 19:35.37 | Dr-Linux | anybdoy experience with SPA-2100? i have some problems, analalog phones connected to spa-2100 rings only 2 times, and after dialing it takes too long to esteblish the conntion? spa is behind the NAT |
| 19:35.39 | iCEBrkr | harryvv: dude, you still havent' had it dial why are you worried about setting variables?!?! |
| 19:36.46 | harryvv | yea :) |
| 19:37.03 | iCEBrkr | harryvv: I'm refuse to help you with that until you get it to dial. |
| 19:37.51 | saftsack_ | so now i test visdn |
| 19:37.53 | fugitivo | i |
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| 19:40.04 | KrayZK | Most calls have no real jitter or lag but some calls suddenly get a high jitter of about 700 or so and sometimes followed by a [WARNING]: chan_iax2.c: network thread: ast_sched_runq ran XXX tasks all at once |
| 19:40.10 | backblue | if i try to call to another server with asterisk2asterisk, if the user in this side, its the same in another asterisk, it will not work, why? |
| 19:40.14 | backblue | it asks for auth |
| 19:40.21 | KrayZK | how can i find out what these tasks might be |
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| 19:41.46 | TheCops | [TK]D-Fender there again ?! |
| 19:42.47 | [TK]D-Fender | ? |
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| 19:43.09 | TheCops | [TK]D-Fender you can't download current software on the polycom website ?! |
| 19:43.22 | ManxPower | TheCops, No. |
| 19:43.27 | TheCops | duh |
| 19:43.39 | TheCops | how can I get sample for this version ?! |
| 19:43.46 | saftsack_ | chan_visdn.c:3982: warning: passing arg 1 of `ast_channel_unregister' from incompatible pointer type |
| 19:43.48 | saftsack_ | :( |
| 19:43.49 | ManxPower | TheCops, Polycom does not want to support end users. It's one of the few annoying things about it. freedomphones web site has new firmware within a few weeks of release |
| 19:44.01 | ManxPower | Polycom wants their resellers to support users. |
| 19:44.03 | Dr-Linux | anybdoy experience with SPA-2100? i have some problems, analalog phones connected to spa-2100 rings only 2 times, and after dialing it takes too long to esteblish the conntion? spa is behind the NAT |
| 19:44.13 | TheCops | duh |
| 19:44.15 | TheCops | I hate that |
| 19:44.22 | ManxPower | TheCops, You get used to it. |
| 19:44.46 | ManxPower | TheCops, with Cisco you have to buy the phone, then a power supply for it, then the SIP firmware for it. |
| 19:44.54 | saftsack_ | ooooh f*** |
| 19:44.55 | TheCops | ManxPower, I'm cisco reseller :P |
| 19:44.59 | TheCops | it's more easy for me |
| 19:45.05 | TheCops | I have all ios or stuff like that on the website |
| 19:45.07 | TheCops | hehe |
| 19:45.07 | saftsack_ | i have debian and debian has no udev. can i install visdn on debian? |
| 19:45.09 | [TK]D-Fender | and THEN kiss their ass to download support stuff off their site ;) |
| 19:45.15 | ManxPower | TheCops, become a polycom reseller then you get access to the polycom firmware |
| 19:45.20 | TheCops | hrmm |
| 19:45.20 | harryvv | All of Vancouver internationals phone system was updates with the cisco IP phones. What a way to advertise. |
| 19:45.22 | TheCops | can be great |
| 19:45.26 | TheCops | and start selling on the net |
| 19:45.28 | TheCops | at good price |
| 19:45.32 | TheCops | can be nice.. |
| 19:49.24 | TheCops | ManxPower or [TK]D-Fender, do you have 1.6.3 firmware or 1.6.2 ? |
| 19:49.37 | ManxPower | TheCops, it's not on freedomphones? |
| 19:49.55 | ManxPower | TheCops, BTW, all the release notes and docs are available from the polycom web site for free. |
| 19:49.56 | TheCops | ManxPower, freedomphones, what's that ? a model ? |
| 19:50.08 | ManxPower | TheCops, the wiki. someone put the link up for you. |
| 19:50.14 | ManxPower | ~polycom |
| 19:50.17 | TheCops | hehe |
| 19:50.22 | *** join/#asterisk kiwnix (n=egarcia@82.158.152.212) |
| 19:50.42 | ManxPower | TheCops, search the wiki for freedomphone or freedomphones |
| 19:50.50 | *** join/#asterisk shido6 (n=shido6@d221-68-216.commercial.cgocable.net) |
| 19:50.53 | [TK]D-Fender | TheCops : I Have many versions. 1.4.2,1.5.2,1.6.1,1.6.2, 1.6.3 |
| 19:50.56 | TheCops | ho my god |
| 19:50.57 | TheCops | yeah |
| 19:51.02 | *** join/#asterisk fulgas (n=fulgas@a81-84-117-84.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 19:51.04 | TheCops | I just found it |
| 19:51.21 | Beirdo | [TK]D-Fender: that almost looked like an SNMP OID :) |
| 19:51.27 | TheCops | [TK]D-Fender, can you send me 1.6.3 ? |
| 19:51.33 | TheCops | It dont have it on the freedomphones |
| 19:51.34 | [TK]D-Fender | Beirdo : uhhh ok! |
| 19:51.48 | Beirdo | been doing too much cacti lately, I gues |
| 19:51.52 | [TK]D-Fender | TheCops : just use the one for 1.6.2 for now get it working, THEN upgrade |
| 19:52.00 | KrayZK | Any asterisk users from Pakistan in here? |
| 19:52.09 | TheCops | [TK]D-Fender, okidoki |
| 19:52.12 | TheCops | :) |
| 19:54.41 | saftsack_ | my visdn is searching for channel_pvt.h |
| 19:56.39 | harryvv | iCEBrkr My asterisk box attempted to send the fax but the remote end user said there fax did not pickup. Here is the pastebin. http://pastebin.ca/35192 |
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| 19:57.30 | iCEBrkr | yay |
| 19:58.00 | jrsharp | hey all |
| 19:58.46 | jrsharp | I recently set up a clone x100p card in my asterisk box and have successfully gotten it working to accept incoming calls as well as route outgoing calls to PSTN... |
| 19:59.02 | harryvv | iCEBrkr going to try it on there main phone even though thay said thay did not hear the fax machine ring. |
| 19:59.08 | iCEBrkr | harryvv: What version of Asterisk you have? |
| 19:59.13 | jrsharp | I was wondering, is it possible to "share" the analog line in my home with an analog telephone that is NOT an extension in * |
| 19:59.14 | jrsharp | ? |
| 19:59.25 | iCEBrkr | jrsharp: Not really. |
| 19:59.50 | jrsharp | hmm |
| 19:59.52 | [TK]D-Fender | jrsharp : Clarify "share" |
| 19:59.54 | iCEBrkr | jrsharp: Tho someone claims you can set your x100p not to answer on the 1st ring |
| 20:00.08 | iCEBrkr | [TK]D-Fender: He means so asterisk isn't always answering.. well, I assume so anyhow |
| 20:00.10 | harryvv | 1.0.9 |
| 20:00.26 | jrsharp | well, I was thinking that I could have asterisk decide whether or not to pick up a call based on CID, perhaps? |
| 20:00.43 | jrsharp | yeah |
| 20:00.49 | iCEBrkr | harryvv: ok, in your callfile SetVar: Faxfile=filename.tif |
| 20:01.00 | fugitivo | jrsharp: ex-girlfriend |
| 20:01.17 | jrsharp | hehe... yeah, something like that ;) |
| 20:01.20 | iCEBrkr | jrsharp: That's kinda hoakey, but ok. |
| 20:01.50 | fugitivo | jrsharp: i mean, check the exgirlfriend functionality |
| 20:01.51 | iCEBrkr | jrsharp: You can do all that logic in your dialplan. So your extensions don't have to ring |
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| 20:02.18 | jrsharp | well, here's the deal, I'm still experimenting with *, and I know my wife doesn't want * picking up the phone for most calls... |
| 20:02.28 | harryvv | okay thanks |
| 20:02.34 | jrsharp | we would want most calls to continue going to the answering machine |
| 20:02.35 | iCEBrkr | jrsharp: I'd say it's all or nothing :) |
| 20:02.43 | jrsharp | hmm... ok |
| 20:03.06 | jrsharp | well, let me ask another, related question... |
| 20:03.06 | iCEBrkr | jrsharp: I had that issue at first too. I didn't have confidence in my configuration. But then I said 'screw it' I'm gonna make it work |
| 20:03.17 | iCEBrkr | ...and I did. |
| 20:03.18 | jrsharp | ahh... ok... will do |
| 20:03.21 | jrsharp | awesome |
| 20:03.26 | fugitivo | i remember that guy that installed asterisk on a company, but the boss wanted to use a regular answering machine, so he was looking for atas for that |
| 20:03.27 | fugitivo | lol |
| 20:03.32 | iCEBrkr | Now, I don't even have PSTN and use VoIP 100% |
| 20:03.49 | jrsharp | is it possible to "ring" that analog handset from *? |
| 20:04.02 | iCEBrkr | jrsharp: You mean without any adapters? No |
| 20:04.17 | jrsharp | it's an FXO/FXS thing, right? |
| 20:04.18 | eKo1 | * is software |
| 20:04.20 | saftsack_ | someone of you compiled the new visdn devel version? |
| 20:04.30 | iCEBrkr | eKo1: very good.. |
| 20:04.42 | iCEBrkr | jrsharp: So you'll need like a SIP phone or ATA |
| 20:04.51 | iCEBrkr | jrsharp: I recommend Sipura |
| 20:05.04 | jrsharp | yeah... I've got a SPA 1001 |
| 20:05.10 | iCEBrkr | cool |
| 20:05.27 | jrsharp | ok... well, like you said, I guess I've just got to get confident in my setup |
| 20:05.29 | iCEBrkr | jrsharp: I know what you're getting at tho.. It's a pain in the ass to ATA all the phones in your house. |
| 20:06.06 | *** join/#asterisk ohad (n=ohad@19-231-13-72.cosmoweb.net) |
| 20:06.07 | jrsharp | yeah, I just thought there might be a way to do like a party line or something and make the house phones ring at once... |
| 20:06.17 | ohad | hi, how do i change the hours of operations of my queue? |
| 20:06.19 | jrsharp | seems like I used to be able to do something like that as a kid |
| 20:06.30 | iCEBrkr | jrsharp: My solution for that-- I was gonna put my Asterisk box in my basement next to where the phone lines come in, get a SPA and wire the house lines into the SPA. |
| 20:06.38 | ohad | i looked into extensions.conf and queue.conf but couldn't really find anything.. ideas? |
| 20:06.54 | jrsharp | iCEBrkr... yeah, I did that once before |
| 20:06.59 | jrsharp | it worked quite well, actually |
| 20:07.23 | iCEBrkr | jrsharp: Yea, I didn't wanna have to run ethernet and have to buy 4 Sipuras :) |
| 20:07.26 | jrsharp | but... the first VoIP experiment did not garner favor with my wife who decided the quality was bad and it was unreliable |
| 20:07.43 | jrsharp | I was not using asterisk yet |
| 20:07.46 | iCEBrkr | jrsharp: So keep the PSTN.. You don't HAVE to use VoIP |
| 20:07.54 | iCEBrkr | oh? Vonage or something? |
| 20:08.01 | jrsharp | I was just connected straight to a VoIP provider |
| 20:08.03 | jrsharp | yeah |
| 20:08.09 | jrsharp | it was Broadvoice |
| 20:08.20 | iCEBrkr | Ahhh, I haven't heard anything too good about them |
| 20:08.39 | harryvv | nifty, asterisk just crashed. |
| 20:08.40 | iCEBrkr | I have a friend who's been using Vonage for about 2-3yrs now, no complaints |
| 20:08.49 | jrsharp | yeah, it was a horrible experience, really, and I hate that it's affected my ability to play with VoIP at home now |
| 20:08.58 | ohad | i am trying to set my queue to be between xtime-ytime.. how do i defien that in the queue? |
| 20:08.59 | jrsharp | yeah, Vonage seems to be pretty good |
| 20:09.00 | [av]bani | its poisoned your wife |
| 20:09.01 | [av]bani | <3 |
| 20:09.03 | loud | they are excellent, your girlfriend can stay up to 7 hours talking to another country and not bothering you. |
| 20:09.04 | jrsharp | yeah |
| 20:09.23 | harryvv | loud, you mean in north america right? |
| 20:09.31 | loud | broadvoice i mean |
| 20:09.33 | jrsharp | well, I don't mind sticking with PSTN, but I want my cake and eat it, too |
| 20:09.49 | [av]bani | pstn is so old hat |
| 20:09.55 | harryvv | depends how dependable you want your connection to be. |
| 20:09.56 | saftsack_ | ^^ |
| 20:09.58 | saftsack_ | thats true |
| 20:10.07 | harryvv | pstn is also 99.9% reliable |
| 20:10.08 | iCEBrkr | jrsharp: So thats why you dial 9 before you dial. |
| 20:10.16 | [av]bani | i dont see why telcos dont just sell voip trunks over ethernet |
| 20:10.20 | jrsharp | eh? |
| 20:10.21 | eKo1 | more like 99.999% |
| 20:10.33 | [av]bani | cheaper and easier for them |
| 20:10.35 | iCEBrkr | jrsharp: I had mine setup when I dialed 9+phone number it dialed via PSTN |
| 20:10.39 | [av]bani | but they like to do things the hard way |
| 20:10.44 | iCEBrkr | jrsharp: if I didn't dial 9, it went out VoIP |
| 20:10.48 | jrsharp | yeah, that's what I've got now |
| 20:10.52 | fugitivo | i'm having a problem with a sip provider, i get calls, but when i pickup the phone and say "hello" the call is ended, i get 503 Server Error |
| 20:10.54 | jrsharp | oh, I see |
| 20:10.55 | jrsharp | yeah |
| 20:11.07 | saftsack_ | chan_visdn.c:41:34: asterisk/channel_pvt.h: No such file or directory |
| 20:11.11 | saftsack_ | why? :( |
| 20:11.13 | jrsharp | I don't have a VoIP provider, really, though... I'm just connected to FWD at the moment |
| 20:11.14 | iCEBrkr | jrsharp: That way I still had the best of both worlds... |
| 20:11.37 | andye | I have a quick one (hopefully) i have one dtdm13b and one dtdm21b - three fxo four fxs - the fxs lines make some loud clicking prior to * inicating pickup |
| 20:11.39 | iCEBrkr | oh, 8+number was FWD :) |
| 20:12.10 | jrsharp | what VoIP provider do you use for LD? |
| 20:12.14 | iCEBrkr | jrsharp: Voicepulse. |
| 20:12.24 | jrsharp | IAX? |
| 20:12.28 | iCEBrkr | jrsharp: yeah |
| 20:14.21 | jrsharp | well, that's good to know |
| 20:14.24 | jrsharp | thanks |
| 20:15.23 | jrsharp | I guess that if I just set up * and put that ATA on the house line, and route all calls over PSTN by default, I shouldn't really have any quality issues... right? |
| 20:15.35 | jrsharp | or will the x100p clone cause me quality issues |
| 20:15.42 | harryvv | iCEBrkr I copy the callfile.call to the outgoing and it crashes asterisk. |
| 20:15.52 | fugitivo | jrsharp: echo and problems detecting hangup |
| 20:16.04 | iCEBrkr | jrsharp: Yea, it acts as a normal phone |
| 20:16.08 | jrsharp | hmm... that might be a problem |
| 20:16.10 | iCEBrkr | fugitivo: You're smoke'n still. |
| 20:16.15 | iCEBrkr | fugitivo: It works flawlessly. |
| 20:16.18 | jrsharp | yeah? |
| 20:16.21 | fugitivo | iCEBrkr: known problems with x100p clone |
| 20:16.35 | iCEBrkr | fugitivo: I've used my x100p for over a year. zero problems. |
| 20:16.44 | harryvv | What would cause a call file to crash asterisk? |
| 20:16.57 | jrsharp | did you have to do any echo training or anything? |
| 20:17.02 | fugitivo | iCEBrkr: still it can happen ;) |
| 20:17.03 | iCEBrkr | jrsharp: I didn't do anything special. |
| 20:17.15 | jrsharp | hmm... that's hopeful |
| 20:17.20 | fugitivo | there're known problems with that hardware |
| 20:17.26 | fugitivo | you can have the problems, or not |
| 20:17.38 | saftsack_ | fugitivo, do you have isdn? |
| 20:17.43 | fugitivo | no |
| 20:17.54 | *** part/#asterisk _fan_ (n=allan@static-64-222-189-188.man.east.verizon.net) |
| 20:18.02 | saftsack_ | oohh why has no one isdn :( |
| 20:18.02 | *** join/#asterisk Umaro (n=umaro@68.142.142.105) |
| 20:18.27 | fugitivo | saftsack_: why you have isdn? :) |
| 20:18.33 | iCEBrkr | fugitivo: Puff-Puff pass man, you're mess'n up the rotation |
| 20:18.41 | Umaro | hey guys.. I'm getting this "Bad FCS (6) on span 2" error on my TE405P now. ML archives say it's timing or interrupts, but it's not |
| 20:18.42 | saftsack_ | because im living in germany :) |
| 20:19.02 | eKo1 | isdn is standard in germany |
| 20:19.28 | fugitivo | iCEBrkr, jrsharp: http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=X100P+clone |
| 20:19.48 | iCEBrkr | fugitivo: Hey, I'm just telling you what I experienced. And I didn't have any problems with it. |
| 20:20.04 | iCEBrkr | fugitivo: it's problably Digium propaganda so you buy their card instead |
| 20:20.14 | fugitivo | iCEBrkr: I'm just telling what is public knowledge and my experience :) |
| 20:20.43 | *** join/#asterisk ikey (i=ikey@220.224.14.31) |
| 20:21.00 | fugitivo | i have 2 x100p clone cards with that problems, i don't have those problems with the tdm400, so the problems are real and depends on your line |
| 20:21.09 | iCEBrkr | fugitivo: you work for digium, don't you? |
| 20:21.18 | iCEBrkr | My lines were shitty |
| 20:21.36 | iCEBrkr | The only problem I had was sometimes people said I sounded far away/quiet |
| 20:21.45 | iCEBrkr | So I just tweaked the tx/rxgain settings. |
| 20:21.45 | fugitivo | that's a known problem :) |
| 20:22.11 | fugitivo | sometimes, no matter how you tweak your tx/rx settings, it'll still sound far away |
| 20:22.13 | iCEBrkr | You sure you got the correct card? |
| 20:22.28 | iCEBrkr | Cuz theres and E and a EP and one without any letters. |
| 20:22.38 | iCEBrkr | The boxes look the same |
| 20:22.47 | fugitivo | boxes? |
| 20:22.49 | fugitivo | lol |
| 20:23.05 | privalodc | Well, still not able to the the D-Channel up.... |
| 20:23.22 | saftsack_ | eKo1, do you have isdn? |
| 20:23.43 | fugitivo | "Many users have reported echo or delay problems using a clone. The x100p does not have a programable chipset for impedance matching. wcfxo with option opermode=1 parameter was intended for the TDM card. There seems to be different DAA's used in the clones." |
| 20:23.51 | iCEBrkr | blah blah blah |
| 20:24.15 | iCEBrkr | fugitivo: How many people come in here bitching about their X100P clone having echo? |
| 20:24.18 | saftsack_ | iCEBrkr, do you use bristuff or what? |
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| 20:24.38 | privalodc | Is there a way to change the override the "automatic" (away/busy) voicemail message selection. Meaning, bu dialing say *80, the user selects that the away message should always be used... |
| 20:24.38 | iCEBrkr | saftsack_: I *JUST* started doing PRIstuff :D har har har har |
| 20:24.38 | fugitivo | iCEBrkr: not much people buy that card lately |
| 20:24.45 | andye | Any reason the tdm400 would be clicking (click, pause, click, click) before Ring Begin and Ring/Answered (digium cards) |
| 20:24.47 | saftsack_ | iCEBrkr, WHAT? :) |
| 20:24.51 | eKo1 | saftsack_: err, no |
| 20:24.59 | fugitivo | iCEBrkr: some time ago more people came here with that problems :) |
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| 20:25.03 | saftsack_ | but i saw, that a singleport pri card costs just 500euro |
| 20:25.24 | iCEBrkr | fugitivo: I've been in here since some time ago.. I don't recall much talk about it |
| 20:26.55 | fugitivo | iCEBrkr: well, i'll not discuss about this |
| 20:27.17 | iCEBrkr | fugitivo: Whatever man, you're telling people to copy files instead of move them :P~~~~ |
| 20:27.53 | fugitivo | wo? |
| 20:27.54 | fugitivo | so? |
| 20:29.15 | trixter | yes always mv /etc/passwd not cp :P |
| 20:29.17 | Dandan | wie? |
| 20:31.11 | [TK]D-Fender | privalodc : Is the PRI confirmed functional with the telco? |
| 20:32.05 | privalodc | [TK]D-Fender: Yep, a tech was here this morning and did a test. |
| 20:32.27 | trixter | did the tech pass the test? |
| 20:32.43 | trixter | was it multiple choice or essay? what kind of test? |
| 20:32.45 | [TK]D-Fender | downed wanrouter, restarted it, and does it say connected? |
| 20:33.44 | privalodc | [TK]D-Fender: you mead wanrouter stop; wanrouter start ? |
| 20:33.55 | [TK]D-Fender | privalodc : yeah, and what does your status say after? |
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| 20:35.19 | privalodc | [TK]D-Fender: Status is Connected, let me look at the d-channel |
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| 20:37.09 | [TK]D-Fender | status from "pri show span 1" <- |
| 20:38.12 | privalodc | Status: Provisioned, Down, Active |
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| 20:38.46 | [TK]D-Fender | privalodc : make sure your startup scripts are ok, then do a cold shutdown and restart and see if it comes up. Mine seems to do that sometimes. |
| 20:38.52 | privalodc | There was 8x "Primary D-Channel on span 1 up" and then "Primary D-Channel on span 1 down" |
| 20:39.26 | privalodc | I don't like the "do that sometimes" :-) |
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| 20:39.29 | harryvv | looks like my call file Almost was able to fax a document but got a error. The rest is on http://pastebin.ca/35198 if anyone is interested in looking at it. |
| 20:39.46 | [TK]D-Fender | Before you do, feel free to pastebin your wanpipe1.cfg, zapte.conf, and zapata.conf |
| 20:40.14 | [TK]D-Fender | privalodc : I'm not sure the origins of my problems yet, but its infrequent. |
| 20:40.36 | iCEBrkr | harryvv: doh |
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| 20:41.13 | harryvv | ice, what? |
| 20:41.16 | iCEBrkr | harryvv: Welp, I can't help ya any further, I haven't messed with faxing before. But ya got it dialing *golf clap* |
| 20:41.18 | harryvv | :) |
| 20:41.25 | harryvv | :) |
| 20:41.40 | harryvv | yea googling around for the answer. |
| 20:41.53 | harryvv | I should try a sound file. |
| 20:41.58 | iCEBrkr | haha |
| 20:42.01 | iCEBrkr | text file |
| 20:42.19 | harryvv | thats another option |
| 20:42.22 | privalodc | [TK]D-Fender: config at http://pastebin.ca/35199 |
| 20:42.46 | harryvv | I will try a strait text file and see if goes though. |
| 20:43.29 | iCEBrkr | harryvv: Back when I was trying to use QModem:Pro and my fax-modem. I was only able to sent ascii files. |
| 20:43.41 | iCEBrkr | I'm not sure if this has the same limitations |
| 20:44.05 | Dr-Linux | anybody using spa-2100 behind the NAT ? |
| 20:44.20 | iCEBrkr | Dr-Linux: I'm using a SPA2k behind nat |
| 20:45.01 | rayvd | "the" nat?? the one and only nat? =-o |
| 20:45.15 | harryvv | that must have been a long time ago. |
| 20:45.28 | iCEBrkr | "The NAT" tonight at 11 on MTV:Oddities |
| 20:45.36 | iCEBrkr | harryvv: very! |
| 20:45.44 | Dr-Linux | iCEBrkr: you may help me out |
| 20:45.53 | iCEBrkr | Dr-Linux: what's not working? |
| 20:46.08 | harryvv | I first heard about the internet in 1991. suprisingly, the whitehouse had a site in ip format. |
| 20:46.32 | harryvv | Neighbor told me about it and gave him a strange look..odd concept :) |
| 20:46.51 | iCEBrkr | haha |
| 20:46.59 | harryvv | DNS did not come around what untill 1992? |
| 20:47.08 | Dr-Linux | iCEBrkr: i have problem, 1st my spa connected phones got dropped/unregistered after some time. 2nd when i dial from sama analog phones it takes too long to esteblish |
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| 20:47.41 | Dr-Linux | iCEBrkr: and last problem is, when i call to those phones, i rings only 2 times |
| 20:48.44 | twisted[asteria] | didn't you guys know |
| 20:48.49 | twisted[asteria] | the internet is a big NAT |
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| 20:49.14 | znoG | whats the best way to set up a dialplan so that if a call needs to go out to 911, it will check if a channel is available and disconnect a random one if there isn't to make room for the call? |
| 20:49.25 | [TK]D-Fender | privalodc : span=1,0,2,esf,b8zs should be span=1,1,0,esf,b8zs |
| 20:49.45 | rayvd | znoG: there's a solution for that on voip-info.org |
| 20:49.45 | twisted[asteria] | znoG, i usually assign a channel for 911 to use |
| 20:49.49 | znoG | chanisavail looks like a good option |
| 20:49.54 | twisted[asteria] | and just hang it up before we dial on it |
| 20:50.06 | znoG | twisted[asteria]: yea, unfortunately there's not enough lines to assign one for 911 |
| 20:50.10 | twisted[asteria] | nono |
| 20:50.14 | twisted[asteria] | i don't mean ONLY for 911 |
| 20:50.18 | znoG | oh |
| 20:50.19 | twisted[asteria] | i mean you tell 911 a specific channel to use |
| 20:50.23 | znoG | oh, right |
| 20:50.33 | twisted[asteria] | regardless if it's in use or not, i hang it up, wait 2 seconds, then dial 911 on it |
| 20:50.36 | znoG | so you soft hangup the specific channel |
| 20:50.44 | znoG | before dialing |
| 20:50.44 | rayvd | what does it do if someone makes a 911 call, is in the call and then someone else makes a 911 call? |
| 20:50.52 | twisted[asteria] | yeah, then if dial fails on it for chanunavail, i just loop until i get through |
| 20:50.54 | privalodc | [TK]D-Fender: tried that also. I was playing with the LBO and timing to seee if it changed something... |
| 20:51.30 | rayvd | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+tips+911 |
| 20:51.34 | Dr-Linux | iCEBrkr: any idea? |
| 20:51.36 | znoG | actually never really thought about this, but from a AGI script using Asterisk::AGI, how do I get the return code for a Dial command? i guess i can do a get_variable CHANSTATUS or whatever it is |
| 20:51.40 | Umaro | hey guys.. i'm trying to bring a NFAS PRI (x2) up, and asterisk shows it's sending SABME, and then it receives a DM frame |
| 20:51.47 | twisted[asteria] | znoG, DIALSTATUS |
| 20:52.13 | [TK]D-Fender | privalodc : your channel line in zapata is also wrong. You are missing your ">" |
| 20:52.26 | znoG | twisted[asteria]: thats the one |
| 20:52.29 | saftsack__ | has anyone a zaptel.conf for one hfc card in te mode? ^^ |
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| 20:56.01 | harryvv | nasty, call file again crashed asterisk. Well, I know now that thats not going to be a part of any regular asterisk install |
| 20:56.02 | harryvv | :) |
| 20:56.04 | saftsack__ | modprobe hfcpci protocol=0x2 layermask=0xf |
| 20:56.05 | Dr-Linux | [TK]D-Fender: i got 3 DID numbers from voip provider on my IP and port, i can get call via them, but i wanna dialout using those number, how can i? |
| 20:56.12 | saftsack__ | this is for temode, right? |
| 20:56.25 | privalodc | [TK]D-Fender: Status: Provisioned, Down, Active after reboot |
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| 20:58.08 | rayvd | Dr-Linux: set your dial plan to set the caller id for you |
| 20:58.09 | *** join/#asterisk lesouvage (n=lesouvag@cc341200-a.assen1.dr.home.nl) |
| 20:58.19 | rayvd | if your voip provider will honor it |
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| 20:58.56 | privalodc | [TK]D-Fender: Never had problem using channel=... also zap show channels shows all my 23 channels |
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| 21:01.57 | lesouvage | I'm looking for a routine to enter and validate a future date and time using a phone. Is there a routine (agi or context) that can do this? |
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| 21:03.01 | Dr-Linux | rayvd: what do you mean, i didn't understand? |
| 21:03.55 | saftsack__ | what is torisa? |
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| 21:04.52 | iCEBrkr | Dr-Linux: callerid= in your sip.conf |
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| 21:07.34 | zishanov | sorry, I got disconneted. I was asking how to check my modules are on which channels on my digium card |
| 21:07.56 | zishanov | I have 4 channels but only two FXO modules installed |
| 21:09.43 | _fan_ | Is anyone using * 1.2.1 successfully with QuantumvVoice |
| 21:10.31 | harryvv | iCEBrkr anyone here that has experiance with call files? |
| 21:10.55 | iCEBrkr | clsIVRCallFile_inc.php |
| 21:11.01 | iCEBrkr | create_callfile.php |
| 21:11.10 | iCEBrkr | I think I have some experience with creating call files :) |
| 21:11.26 | harryvv | hhe |
| 21:11.44 | harryvv | yea web interface is always a better idea. |
| 21:12.03 | iCEBrkr | Who said anything about web interfaces? |
| 21:12.14 | iCEBrkr | Just cuz they're PHP files doesn't mean they're web pages. |
| 21:12.34 | vmwarez | hey, anyone know how to make moh play when transferring someone rather than them hearing rings? |
| 21:12.40 | harryvv | I always associated php with web sites. learn something new every day. |
| 21:12.41 | harryvv | :) |
| 21:12.48 | azzie | can I register a Polycom 501 with two different SIP providers ? |
| 21:12.53 | iCEBrkr | harryvv: you can run PHP scripts at the command line |
| 21:13.12 | harryvv | I have not really worked with php. |
| 21:15.14 | *** join/#asterisk asdf__ (n=asdf__@c9110469.rjo.virtua.com.br) |
| 21:15.14 | iCEBrkr | harryvv: So what's your deal with callfiles? |
| 21:15.56 | *** join/#asterisk asdf__ (n=asdf__@c9110469.rjo.virtua.com.br) |
| 21:17.17 | harryvv | iCEBrkr I dont usally give up on something. It may become handy for reason such as, calling a group of homes in a area where a known child abduction may have just occured. |
| 21:17.48 | harryvv | I want to see how far it it capable of going under a load. |
| 21:18.07 | iCEBrkr | harryvv: A call is a call regardless how it was initiated |
| 21:18.18 | *** join/#asterisk seele_ (n=seele@200.124.172.72) |
| 21:18.19 | iCEBrkr | Tho, I suspect there might be a little more overhead with faxing |
| 21:18.25 | dudes | harryvv - like a auto dialer that warns about this or that |
| 21:18.30 | harryvv | yes |
| 21:18.36 | seele_ | I need help with the password for the panel in AMP Asterisk At home |
| 21:18.37 | dudes | that's easy to do |
| 21:18.41 | Umaro | guys? what does it mean when the remote PRI switch is sending asterisk a "DM (disconnect mode)" frame? |
| 21:18.44 | seele_ | Which is the dafault password?? |
| 21:18.46 | LostFrog | Or a way to win radio contests automatically? |
| 21:18.59 | iCEBrkr | LostFrog: lol |
| 21:19.08 | harryvv | dudes, you have made it work as a auto dialer? |
| 21:19.19 | iCEBrkr | LostFrog: I remember doing that with my modem and terminal program |
| 21:19.31 | LostFrog | How many modems, iCEBrkr? |
| 21:19.34 | LostFrog | lol |
| 21:19.46 | iCEBrkr | LostFrog: haha only one.. but the AT command to 'speed' dial was set pretty hi |
| 21:19.48 | iCEBrkr | high |
| 21:19.48 | dudes | harryvv - yea |
| 21:19.57 | harryvv | dudes, thats my next stage of testing callfiles with with a recorded voice. Seems that faxing is just not passing right now. |
| 21:19.59 | iCEBrkr | harryvv: I've been working on an automated 'dialer' for the past month. |
| 21:20.06 | seele_ | please anyone who knows which is the password for the amp "panel" |
| 21:20.12 | dudes | But I don't use callfiles |
| 21:20.17 | iCEBrkr | seele_: don't use AMP |
| 21:20.19 | seele_ | Flash operator Panel |
| 21:20.21 | iCEBrkr | dudes: why not call files? |
| 21:20.22 | harryvv | What do you use? |
| 21:20.24 | dudes | I just set maxlines and it goes nuts |
| 21:20.44 | seele_ | iCEBrkr, but i need to acces there |
| 21:20.59 | seele_ | Is there another channel for my question?? |
| 21:21.02 | iCEBrkr | seele_: Sorry, my personal opinion is AMP sucks. |
| 21:21.04 | dudes | iCEBrkr - not why not, why |
| 21:21.19 | seele_ | iCEBrkr, Which one is the best then? |
| 21:21.25 | Katty | my wrist needs support. |
| 21:21.27 | Katty | it /hurts/ |
| 21:21.28 | iCEBrkr | dudes: Cuz the mechanism for dialing is already there. Dump the call file and let it go. |
| 21:21.31 | Dr-Linux | iCEBrkr: why callerid is involved with my issue? |
| 21:21.36 | dudes | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:21.58 | iCEBrkr | < Katty> it /hurts/ |
| 21:22.02 | iCEBrkr | They all say that |
| 21:22.18 | iCEBrkr | Dr-Linux: You said you wanted to dial out of your 3 DID with the correct CallerID |
| 21:22.32 | Dr-Linux | iCEBrkr: no, i didn't said that |
| 21:22.33 | iCEBrkr | seele_: I edit the .conf files in /etc/asterisk. |
| 21:22.56 | iCEBrkr | (03:54)< Dr-Linux> [TK]D-Fender: i got 3 DID numbers from voip provider on my |
| 21:22.56 | iCEBrkr | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:22.56 | iCEBrkr | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:23.05 | Dr-Linux | iCEBrkr: i said, i wanna dialout on those DID number, i can't dialout ... |
| 21:23.25 | iCEBrkr | Dr-Linux: You're not understanding. |
| 21:23.37 | Dr-Linux | i'm sorry :( |
| 21:23.56 | *** part/#asterisk popvoxdave (n=popvoxda@pcp0011694398pcs.longhl01.md.comcast.net) |
| 21:24.04 | iCEBrkr | Dr-Linux: You dialout via VoIP.. DID's are just numbers, not phone lines. |
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| 21:24.41 | Dr-Linux | iCEBrkr: DIDs are just number, nothing else |
| 21:24.47 | iCEBrkr | Yeah |
| 21:24.49 | iCEBrkr | well |
| 21:25.00 | iCEBrkr | There's more to it than just that, but for you on your end, they're just inbound numbers |
| 21:25.21 | Dr-Linux | iCEBrkr: i can't dialout via them? |
| 21:26.15 | [TK]D-Fender | Dr-Linux : DIDs "land" on a PRI. You dial out on a PRI circuit, rigging the caller ID if you CHOOSE to. but the DID is just an INBOUND number |
| 21:26.33 | iCEBrkr | [TK]D-Fender: Thanks I couldnt' think of any other way to explain it :) |
| 21:27.02 | [TK]D-Fender | If you want to place a call with the DID as the callerID, then set it that way in your dial-plan. |
| 21:27.21 | [TK]D-Fender | Mine at my desk is set that way, and I even rig my office to look like my home when I trunk calls out from there. |
| 21:27.29 | [TK]D-Fender | iCEBrkr : np :) |
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| 21:27.41 | diclophis | hello all |
| 21:27.43 | P4C0 | hello guys!! |
| 21:27.54 | Cresl1n | hello! |
| 21:27.56 | Cresl1n | :-D |
| 21:28.03 | Dr-Linux | oo ic i understand now |
| 21:28.11 | privalodc | [TK]D-Fender: Never had problem using channel=... also zap show channels shows all my 23 channels. I'm waiting for a call from Sangoma... |
| 21:28.18 | *** join/#asterisk BugKham (i=BugKham@61.47.108.39) |
| 21:28.21 | diclophis | so.. how do i configure how many digits get sent to my asterisk machine? |
| 21:28.21 | [TK]D-Fender | Hello gentlemen! You have no chance to survive! Make your time! |
| 21:28.38 | diclophis | right now i have several 8xx numbers coming in... but it is looking for a 7 digit exten |
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| 21:28.39 | P4C0 | have anyone tried asterisk 1.2.1 music on hold out of the box? |
| 21:28.47 | diclophis | and i need to make sure it looks for a 10 digit exten |
| 21:29.02 | Katty | mister fender... |
| 21:29.05 | [TK]D-Fender | privalodc : Ask for Nenad Korvic specifically if possible. The guy wrote the docs for them and is going to fix things up for you FAST |
| 21:29.08 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: make my wrist stop hurting. |
| 21:29.11 | BugKham | is cmd Mysql working in 1.2.1? |
| 21:29.32 | *** part/#asterisk schuylerdigium (n=schuyler@gateway.digium.com) |
| 21:29.51 | BugKham | I had the error "app_addon_sql_mysql.c:115 find_identifier: Identifier 0, identifier_type 2 not found in identifier list" |
| 21:30.11 | _fan_ | P4C0: yes |
| 21:30.28 | privalodc | [TK]D-Fender: Right now I'm with David Yat Sin and David Mandelstam |
| 21:30.51 | BugKham | Never had this problem in 1.0.9 though |
| 21:30.58 | lesouvage | diclopsis: you mean you want to enter a phone number with 10 digits from a phone and asterisks do something with it as soon as you entered 10 numbers? |
| 21:31.10 | P4C0 | _fan_, does it works? I'm getting heavy distortion |
| 21:31.34 | _fan_ | it worked great - no issues at all with it |
| 21:31.39 | iCEBrkr | Hey, can anyone help me get this Asterisk OS loaded on my machine. |
| 21:31.55 | mrdigital | iCEBrkr: ill help |
| 21:31.56 | jbroome | asterisk isn't an os |
| 21:32.01 | iCEBrkr | LOL |
| 21:32.04 | iCEBrkr | I'm kidding guys |
| 21:32.11 | privalodc | [TK]D-Fender: What are your tought abour using the other span? Is it possible I just hit a bad one? |
| 21:32.24 | mrdigital | and by AOS i was assuming AAH :) |
| 21:32.24 | diclophis | no it has to do with the DID |
| 21:32.30 | _Sam-- | loading it onto your machine is so 2005! im thrilled with running it from CF card and USB pen drive |
| 21:32.31 | diclophis | i am only getting 7 digits from my provider |
| 21:32.33 | [TK]D-Fender | privalodc : doubt it, but I've gotta jet for now, bbiab |
| 21:32.38 | diclophis | except they say they are sending 10 |
| 21:32.39 | iCEBrkr | How the hell did most of you guys find Asterisk??? |
| 21:32.44 | _Sam-- | i can take the cf card and thumb drive to any pc and plug it in and have my asterisk |
| 21:32.48 | iCEBrkr | Like, how do you not know about the WIKI? |
| 21:33.01 | privalodc | [TK]D-Fender: Thanks for the help and support |
| 21:33.06 | diclophis | iCEBrkr, i poked around in the dark until i found it |
| 21:33.11 | P4C0 | _fan_, do I need to have to have the dsp free? |
| 21:33.12 | iCEBrkr | _Sam--: That's so last year.. We run Asterisk on our Linksys routers |
| 21:33.14 | ManxPower | I don't suppose anyone has a DirecTiVo they want to sell? |
| 21:33.21 | lesouvage | diclophis: you have a problem with number id? |
| 21:33.40 | BugKham | anyone using Mysql with Asterisk 1.2.1? |
| 21:33.41 | iCEBrkr | Katty: Problem solved. |
| 21:33.41 | _fan_ | P4C0: I believe so |
| 21:33.46 | diclophis | well.. i think it is related to the DID... i need a 10 digit did (because i am using 8xx numbers) |
| 21:33.50 | _Sam-- | iCEBrkr: what do you for your key drive? |
| 21:33.51 | ManxPower | diclophis, it's pretty easy to confirm that. |
| 21:33.54 | diclophis | but my provider is only sending 7 digit DIDs |
| 21:33.56 | ManxPower | pri debug span X |
| 21:33.57 | _Sam-- | or you store all the config in nvram? |
| 21:33.57 | diclophis | ... how so? |
| 21:34.01 | iCEBrkr | _Sam--: It's embeded yo. |
| 21:34.18 | Katty | iCEBrkr: meanie. |
| 21:34.21 | iCEBrkr | BugKham: I use it all the time. |
| 21:34.21 | diclophis | whoa, thats alot of debug |
| 21:34.28 | Katty | iCEBrkr: why do you pick on me so much? |
| 21:34.32 | iCEBrkr | Katty: Restating the obvious? |
| 21:34.43 | Katty | iCEBrkr: what did i ever do to you? |
| 21:34.46 | iCEBrkr | Katty: I dunno, cuz you crave attention, so I figured I'd give it to ya. |
| 21:34.51 | _Sam-- | im trying to sell a real estate office a 5,000 dollar phone system...dont want to walk in with a linksys router...HERE |
| 21:34.55 | Katty | iCEBrkr: is that what you think? |
| 21:35.07 | iCEBrkr | _Sam--: Or a USB thumb drive..... |
| 21:35.15 | _Sam-- | thats why i biult a swanky looking machine |
| 21:35.22 | _Sam-- | based on a HTPC case, even though it has no moving parts |
| 21:35.40 | _Sam-- | that ahanix mce601 case with a cool lcd display that says stupid things |
| 21:35.50 | iCEBrkr | _Sam--: If I found out my phone system ran off a USB thumb drive, I'd hunt you down and beat you with the machine |
| 21:35.52 | diclophis | ManxPower what do you think about this? |
| 21:35.54 | diclophis | http://pastebin.com/483387 |
| 21:35.56 | P4C0 | _fan_, I'll try to release my dsp device |
| 21:36.06 | _Sam-- | no, it runs off the CF card! |
| 21:36.09 | diclophis | i think it is the providers fault I am not getting 10 digits |
| 21:36.36 | ManxPower | diclophis, Where are you located? |
| 21:36.45 | diclophis | Hayward, CA |
| 21:37.20 | _Sam-- | iCEBrkr: how much rom is there available on the router to work with |
| 21:37.27 | _Sam-- | like how much space do you load your asterisk into |
| 21:37.30 | ManxPower | diclophis, is this the number that's calling? 9163840441 |
| 21:37.39 | diclophis | yes |
| 21:37.46 | ManxPower | then the provider is sending it. |
| 21:37.48 | iCEBrkr | _Sam--: It's not a viable solution to a full blown phone system. There's not enough horse power in that little thing |
| 21:37.52 | *** join/#asterisk oej (n=oej@apollo.webway.se) |
| 21:37.58 | ManxPower | diclophis, put your zapata.conf on pastebin.ca |
| 21:38.05 | _Sam-- | i been looking at mini itx for small but powerful |
| 21:38.06 | diclophis | the number i am trying to all is 866 570 8001 |
| 21:38.18 | iCEBrkr | _Sam--: Same here.. |
| 21:38.23 | _Sam-- | you dont think you could run a small office with 10 SIP clients off the linksys? |
| 21:38.34 | fugitivo | 10? |
| 21:38.35 | saftsack__ | my asterisk wants to load zaptel and torisa by starting |
| 21:38.37 | iCEBrkr | _Sam--: nope.. Maybe the mini-itx tho |
| 21:38.41 | saftsack__ | but i have a noload chan_zap |
| 21:38.53 | fugitivo | _Sam--: the linksys will handle 5 sip clients without transcoding |
| 21:39.07 | _Sam-- | good info...thank you |
| 21:39.13 | *** part/#asterisk _fan_ (n=allan@static-64-222-189-188.man.east.verizon.net) |
| 21:39.14 | diclophis | ManxPower http://pastebin.com/483391 |
| 21:39.40 | _Sam-- | has anyone ever outputted CLI messages to a front panel display? using something like lcdproc for linux |
| 21:39.47 | _Sam-- | i have my front panel work, and it can display system stuff |
| 21:40.07 | _Sam-- | but i havent displayed any asterisk info on it |
| 21:40.50 | ManxPower | diclophis, tell your provider you require a tech with a T-BERD to come out to diagnose the problem |
| 21:40.50 | ManxPower | < Called Number (len=10) [ Ext: 1 TON: Subscriber Number (4) NPI: ISDN/Telephony Numbering Plan (E.164/E.163) (1) '2228001' ] |
| 21:40.50 | iCEBrkr | _Sam--: What's there to output? |
| 21:40.50 | ManxPower | That indicated that the number called is 2228001 |
| 21:40.50 | iCEBrkr | _Sam--: A bunch of junk that no one but you could understand? |
| 21:40.50 | _Sam-- | i would like it basically display the entire CLI console |
| 21:40.50 | diclophis | what is a T-BERD ? |
| 21:40.55 | _Sam-- | exactly...it is meant to confuzzle potential customers |
| 21:41.03 | _Sam-- | "Ohh...i dont know what that means..i shouldnt touch it" |
| 21:41.12 | iCEBrkr | _Sam--: you'd be better off writing a 'status' type script that used the manage port and display certain info. |
| 21:41.14 | ManxPower | diclophis, A T-1 and PRI test/diagnostics box. They can see the DID that the the telco is handing you. |
| 21:41.16 | fugitivo | it'll look c00l for customers |
| 21:41.24 | iCEBrkr | fugitivo: ie. gay |
| 21:41.27 | _Sam-- | thats an interesting way to think of it |
| 21:41.31 | ManxPower | The tech will say "We are only sending 7-digits", call it in and it will get fixed. |
| 21:41.34 | _Sam-- | someone else suggested i tail certain logs to it |
| 21:41.43 | harryvv | is asterisk sms capable? |
| 21:41.49 | fugitivo | _Sam--: i suggest a porno animation |
| 21:41.51 | diclophis | so this is definatly not a problem on my side then? |
| 21:42.31 | P4C0 | I have read that asterisk have their own mp3 player? but it keeps calling mpg123... !? |
| 21:42.31 | Katty | problems are never on your side. they're always against you. |
| 21:42.54 | diclophis | Katty, ha ... |
| 21:43.03 | fugitivo | P4C0: not mp3 player, native moh |
| 21:43.17 | gnosys | To ring a Cisco79XX phone with a special ring pattern, I see some good docs at: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk+phone+cisco+79xx |
| 21:43.45 | gnosys | but there seems to be at least two diff ways of doing it: SetVar(ALERT_INFO=<Bellcore-dr1>) and SetVar(_ALERT_INFO=something). |
| 21:44.05 | gnosys | In 1.2.1, which works? and are the <> necessary or there for illusttration? |
| 21:45.05 | P4C0 | fugitivo, :) so files in .gsm or such |
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| 21:48.11 | Tili | which country has code 72 or 720 |
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| 21:48.28 | ohad | i am trying to set my queue to be between xtime-ytime.. how do i define that in the queue? |
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| 21:50.46 | Strom_C | OW |
| 21:50.48 | LostFrog | Tili: Does google not work? |
| 21:51.04 | Strom_C | it looks like someone removed the protector caps from the T1's appearance on this demarc |
| 21:51.10 | Dr-Linux | iCEBrkr: my spa problem are fixed |
| 21:51.12 | Strom_C | I touched it with my finger. ow ow ow. |
| 21:51.20 | iCEBrkr | Dr-Linux: cool |
| 21:52.29 | Tili | well i thought to ask gurus at asterisk as this is sometimes faster. |
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| 21:54.30 | iCEBrkr | welp, I'm going home |
| 21:54.31 | beefsprocket | has anyone who has used iaxcomm with ubuntu feel like giving me a hand? |
| 21:54.36 | LostFrog | Tili: 72/720 doesn't look like it is a valid country code. |
| 21:55.42 | Tili | yeah i thought so too and found so on google and so thougth to ask here |
| 21:56.07 | P4C0 | how can I see the call of asterisk to mpg123? (command) |
| 21:56.13 | gnosys | any tips? anyone? on getting SIP handsets to ring with distinctive ring patterns? I know the Cisco79XX has at least Chirp1 and Chirp2 available.. I've heard them with my phones in choosing a ring pattern from the phone config. But how can I have asterisk ring the phone with one ring pattern or another (to distinguish, say, between internal calls and external calls)? |
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| 21:58.33 | ManxPower | gnosys, what SIP phone? |
| 21:58.44 | gnosys | Cisco79XX |
| 21:58.54 | ManxPower | info shoul be in the Wiki |
| 21:59.06 | gnosys | Also, Polycom... I forget which 601? |
| 21:59.17 | ManxPower | well each phone does it differently |
| 21:59.52 | gnosys | right. Even just getting one to ring with a different pattern would be nice tho'. I think the polycom's are 501s |
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| 22:00.15 | gnosys | I found this: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk+phone+cisco+79xx |
| 22:00.31 | gnosys | But it's got two sets of guidance, and I can't seem to make either one work. |
| 22:02.33 | saftsack__ | is libpir neccessary for asterisk to compile? |
| 22:02.52 | gnosys | no, but libpri prolly is... |
| 22:03.07 | saftsack__ | ok |
| 22:05.44 | tzafrir_laptop | libpri is not necessary if you don't need PRI upport, IIRC |
| 22:06.42 | rculp | I have a quick question for you guys. I noticed that in the asterisk.conf file it has a variable for astspooldir that is defined as /var/spool/asterisk which is all well and good |
| 22:06.50 | rculp | but I want to be able to split out functions |
| 22:06.57 | rculp | without using a symlink |
| 22:07.05 | rculp | so that I can copy the contents |
| 22:07.14 | rculp | of the voicemail subdir |
| 22:07.18 | rculp | to an ntfs share |
| 22:07.23 | rculp | on a different box |
| 22:07.51 | rculp | is it possible? |
| 22:08.30 | ManxPower | rculp, I don't think so |
| 22:08.33 | diclophis | is there a way to set a phone to 'auto dial' upon picking up of the handset? |
| 22:08.43 | _Sam-- | couldnt you just tell the voicemail to be stored on the ntfs share? |
| 22:08.44 | diclophis | in particular a SIP phone |
| 22:09.07 | rculp | I didn't see a variable that set the voicemail path other than the astspooldir variable |
| 22:09.19 | _Sam-- | i store my voicemail on a ubs key drive |
| 22:09.23 | gnosys | ManxPower, have you had success in altering any SIP handset's ring pattern from Asterisk? |
| 22:09.26 | _Sam-- | i think it is a symlink |
| 22:09.33 | rculp | which contains dictate, etc... |
| 22:09.41 | rculp | I figured I could do a symlink |
| 22:09.44 | rculp | but wasn't sure |
| 22:09.46 | ManxPower | gnosys, yes. The polycom. |
| 22:09.54 | rculp | if there was the ability to just split out the config |
| 22:09.58 | rculp | symlink it is |
| 22:10.07 | ManxPower | rculp, you should be able to symlink or mount at the correct point |
| 22:10.14 | gnosys | would you mind sharing your notes? I don't even find anything on the polycom phones as I did with the cisco phones (on the wiki) |
| 22:10.56 | rculp | manx and sam: yeah, I'll just have to do a symlink |
| 22:11.45 | bn-7bc | hmm meetme does not seem to work the consle gives me the message "No application 'Meetme'" installed asterisk and the demo config yesterday can anyone help? |
| 22:13.06 | bn-7bc | forhet it fount it on a forum |
| 22:13.19 | fugitivo | bn-7bc: maybe you don't have zaptel installed, so maybe asterisk didn't compile meetme, so maybe the module app_meetme isn't loaded |
| 22:14.15 | ManxPower | bn-7bc, Meetme won't be installed if zaptel isn't installed when you build Asterisk |
| 22:16.48 | gnosys | ManxPower, mind sharing your notes on distinctive rings with polycom? |
| 22:17.13 | ManxPower | gnosys, I would have to go thru and learn how to do it again. |
| 22:17.40 | ManxPower | All the info I used was on the mailing lists or Wiki |
| 22:18.31 | ManxPower | I am SO annoyed. I got the new DirecTV DVR, not the TiVo version |
| 22:18.47 | gnosys | well, i wouldn't want you to do that, but what are you doing in extensions.conf? Or is it more elaborate than that? I don't see anything specific to polycom on the wiki for distinctive rings. I'll keep googling I guess. |
| 22:18.53 | _Sam-- | mmmm directivo is the shizzit |
| 22:19.05 | _Sam-- | i have a hacked one, can download all the recordings..it runs http, etc |
| 22:19.10 | _Sam-- | its just a linux box |
| 22:19.14 | fugitivo | ManxPower: why? use linux |
| 22:19.28 | ManxPower | fugitivo, Huh? |
| 22:19.29 | fugitivo | ManxPower: linux+mythtv |
| 22:19.31 | _Sam-- | fugitivo: its harder because its tied directly to directv |
| 22:19.35 | ManxPower | I don't want any mythtv crap. |
| 22:19.45 | _Sam-- | i guess you could still get the program guides somehow |
| 22:19.47 | _Sam-- | but not as easily |
| 22:19.53 | ManxPower | If I wanted to build my own car out of parts I would have done so. |
| 22:20.02 | ManxPower | I want a TIVO |
| 22:20.07 | _Sam-- | should have bought one on ebay |
| 22:20.09 | gnosys | ManxPower, isn't that what you did with your phone system? |
| 22:20.10 | _Sam-- | directivo |
| 22:20.14 | ManxPower | I've had a standalone TiVo for 4 years. |
| 22:20.29 | gnosys | ManxPower, I have a TiVo, and I tell you, it SUCKS! |
| 22:20.30 | fugitivo | ManxPower: why you use asterisk then? buy a pbx :) |
| 22:20.34 | Bakermd | Hey all - Question: I have 1 user out of 1000 that has a VoiceMail problem: The user is set to forward messages to an email address and then delete, but when I call his number and VMail picks up, it tells me that the mailbox is full... |
| 22:20.38 | _Sam-- | what parts about the directv dvr sucks? |
| 22:20.51 | _Sam-- | im just curious |
| 22:20.56 | ManxPower | _Sam--, I've yet to figure out Wishlists |
| 22:21.10 | ManxPower | And I LIKE the TiVo interface. |
| 22:21.17 | Bakermd | Dec 29 16:24:23 WARNING[6106]: app_voicemail.c:2229 leave_voicemail: No more messages possible |
| 22:21.29 | trixter | hmm CDR billing gets overwritten with FAILED if you call multiple hosts and any one of them is unavailable even if one is avialable and answers the call. at least a bug is filed on bugs.digium.com about it it should get fixed sometime |
| 22:21.35 | ManxPower | Bakermd, how many messages does the user have? |
| 22:21.40 | Bakermd | 0 |
| 22:21.51 | _Sam-- | trixter: i noticed that in my cdr logs also |
| 22:21.53 | fugitivo | Bakermd: check /var/spool/asterisk/voicemail/context/vmnumber |
| 22:21.59 | ManxPower | Bakermd, check the permissios on their vm directory |
| 22:22.00 | _Sam-- | i started making sure my calls were working |
| 22:22.14 | Bakermd | okay - will try those suggestions (Thank you) |
| 22:22.27 | _Sam-- | trixter: it only happens is the status is unavail? not busy, etc? |
| 22:22.46 | saftsack__ | everytime when i start asterisk it tries to load torisa and zaptel |
| 22:22.51 | saftsack__ | is that a normal behaviour? |
| 22:23.01 | ManxPower | saftsack__, no, it's normal for loading zaptel. |
| 22:23.05 | ManxPower | but not Asterisk |
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| 22:23.24 | ManxPower | and you can tell it not to try to load all drivers |
| 22:24.07 | trixter | _Sam--: according to the bug report the person had a host unavailable (no route to host) error on theirs too |
| 22:24.37 | Bakermd | wow |
| 22:24.38 | saftsack__ | ManxPower, i dont want asterisk to load zaptel. i did a noload => chan_zap.so in modules.conf but it doesnt help |
| 22:24.42 | trixter | I have only notiuced it if I dial multilple targets at the same time and any of them arent registered (host is dynamic not registered means no ip means no route to host) it does failed |
| 22:25.01 | Bakermd | There were 99 messages in the folder - I was misinformed! Thanks all |
| 22:25.03 | trixter | I dont know if the problem is larger or not, only that I have the same conditions, even if not observed by the person that posted the bug |
| 22:25.08 | ManxPower | saftsack__, What is the SPECIFIC message? |
| 22:25.23 | trixter | it means that people doing billing based on CDR can have problems actually collecting for calls that are made |
| 22:25.47 | saftsack__ | ManxPower, the specific message? i got mass errormsg. |
| 22:25.51 | saftsack__ | mom i paste them in pastebin |
| 22:26.23 | saftsack__ | ManxPower, |
| 22:26.24 | saftsack__ | http://pastebin.com/483441 |
| 22:26.30 | trixter | I wonder if a no route to host error would cause a call that was in progress to be marked as failed well after the call was completed ... that might be interesting - if true (and I dont know that it is) then people could intentionally abuse this to drop calls and not be charged for them |
| 22:26.39 | ManxPower | so you type "service asterisk start" and you get massive error messages? |
| 22:26.52 | saftsack__ | asterisk -vvvvvvvvc |
| 22:27.00 | saftsack__ | no this errormessages are from dmesg |
| 22:27.18 | ManxPower | those error messages ARE FROM KERNEL DRIVERS |
| 22:27.24 | trixter | it wouldnt be that hard to write a firewall script to do that on a per call basis at least for testing |
| 22:28.23 | ManxPower | saftsack__, What distro are you using? |
| 22:28.27 | saftsack__ | debian |
| 22:28.55 | ManxPower | can someone tell this guy how to make the zaptel drivers not load on debian. |
| 22:29.09 | saftsack__ | :) |
| 22:29.21 | saftsack__ | maybe i should delete them ;) |
| 22:29.21 | trixter | Hmm.. wonder if it could be forced ... a provider that allows multiple registrations to their asterisk box may have that problem as well if one is set up specifically to firewall traffic to the RTP ports and the o ther is set up to actually answer the calls |
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| 22:30.46 | vmwarez | anyone out there know how to get music on hold to play while transferring someone instead of them hearing rings? |
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| 22:30.52 | nmsclera | Anyone working with a Tekelect T6000 and getting trunking to work? |
| 22:31.12 | nmsclera | Tekelec, that is. |
| 22:31.59 | saftsack__ | ManxPower, i cant find the drivers in the kernel menu. should i delete the modules by hand? |
| 22:32.18 | ManxPower | saftsack__, I cannot help you with debian specific stuff. |
| 22:32.49 | ManxPower | vmlinuz, "show application dial" Pay special attention to the "m" option. |
| 22:32.55 | saftsack__ | ok |
| 22:33.02 | saftsack__ | thanks |
| 22:33.19 | saftsack__ | ManxPower, on what for a distribution is your asterisk running? |
| 22:33.40 | ManxPower | saftsack__, Mandrake, but most any RPM based distro acts the same way. |
| 22:34.00 | ManxPower | "chkconfig zaptel off" and "service zaptel stop" |
| 22:34.26 | blitzrage | that works the same way in CentOS / Fedora / RHEL too |
| 22:34.36 | *** part/#asterisk fulgas (n=fulgas@a81-84-117-84.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 22:34.38 | saftsack__ | yes, rpm distros ;) |
| 22:34.41 | saftsack__ | but i dont like them |
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| 22:34.59 | blitzrage | mogorman: zup zup |
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| 22:36.52 | saftsack__ | ManxPower, do you know why modprobe knows what modules i have? |
| 22:36.56 | Neter66 | Has anyone seen any issues with Ring Groups in 1.2.1? |
| 22:37.38 | Neter66 | If i set a ring group (#1) to have 2 extensions in it, it will automatically go to vm. (returns from dialparties with no parties to call) |
| 22:37.56 | Neter66 | if I set the inbound to go directly to an extension, it works fine |
| 22:38.48 | Neter66 | In verbose mode i see: Executing Macro("IAX2/647722xxxx-1", "rg-group|ringall|20||2000-2001") in new stack |
| 22:39.01 | PoWeRKiLL | I can't get DIALSTATUS variable anymore one * 1.2.1 and it was working on 1.2.0 any other person that got this problem ? |
| 22:39.01 | slappingt | does ne1 here use the Sipura 3000? |
| 22:39.10 | ManxPower | saftsack__, I cannot help you further |
| 22:39.11 | Neter66 | so it sees the ringgroup, sees it as a ringall, for 20 seconds, and the two extens. but right to vm |
| 22:39.14 | saftsack__ | ManxPower, ok |
| 22:39.27 | saftsack__ | ill test myself and then ill tell you how it worked :) |
| 22:39.27 | blitzrage | Neter66: that line doesn't tell us much |
| 22:39.40 | blitzrage | Neter66: try pasting the macro into a pastebin |
| 22:40.11 | gnosys | Can anyone point me to a *searchable* copy of the * mailing list archives? All I see at digium is a browseable one... |
| 22:40.23 | blitzrage | gnosys: use google |
| 22:40.29 | _DAW | Does anyone have an opinion on the reliability of realtime in 1.2? |
| 22:40.30 | blitzrage | gnosys: site:lists.digium.com |
| 22:40.52 | blitzrage | _DAW: as reliable as the database availability |
| 22:41.13 | gnosys | Ok. Thanks blitzrage. But is the entire archive stored on that server? |
| 22:41.44 | Neter66 | blitzrage: did you want the "IAX2/647...." macro? |
| 22:41.44 | blitzrage | gnosys: should be (you mean lists.digium.com right?) |
| 22:41.55 | gnosys | right. |
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| 22:42.58 | blitzrage | Neter66: I don't... but if you want someone to help, they'll need to see the macro since it actually performs the action |
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| 22:43.18 | NDT | Hey guys...Digium 405 cards...is there anyway to tell that Ts are plugged into them remotely or at CLI prompt? |
| 22:43.52 | blitzrage | NDT: zttool? |
| 22:43.54 | diclophis | zttool ? |
| 22:44.38 | NDT | ahh..thanks.. 8) sorry been mainly doing straight IP stuff...now trying to move into this realm of asterisk 8) |
| 22:45.34 | Neter66 | blitzrage: it's there |
| 22:45.51 | blitzrage | Neter66: you'll have to paste a link here if you want someone to look at it :) |
| 22:46.22 | twisted[asteria] | kattay! |
| 22:46.30 | Katty | there you are. |
| 22:46.34 | Neter66 | http://pastebin.com/483463 |
| 22:46.40 | twisted[asteria] | i am |
| 22:47.32 | MikeJ[Laptop] | nope |
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| 22:49.45 | gnosys | Polycom 501, ipmid.cfg, http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2003-December/031787.html is this file (ipmid.cfg) still used by Polycom phones (as described in the 2-year-old message at this URL)? |
| 22:50.07 | gnosys | This is about distinctive rings for the polycom |
| 22:52.03 | `lyme | anyone have any idea why parties in a meetme conversion sound like their under water? |
| 22:52.56 | nmsclera | Is anyone doing ANY SIP trunking at an * termination point? |
| 22:53.28 | Neter66 | anyone have any clues on the ring-group issue? |
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| 22:57.35 | mrdigital | hey Katty: you awake enough to help me? |
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| 23:00.37 | hugo-v6 | hiho |
| 23:01.29 | gnosys | seems everyone's asleep, huh, hugo-v6? |
| 23:01.39 | hugo-v6 | gnosys: seems so ;) |
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| 23:02.10 | gnosys | hugo, have you done anything with distinctive rings? |
| 23:02.17 | hugo-v6 | or at work or wtf ever ;) |
| 23:02.32 | hugo-v6 | dunno what distinctive rings are ;) |
| 23:03.35 | gnosys | a call hits your asterisk box from a Zap channel, the internal phones ring with one pattern. an internal call (from one ext to another) hits a phone, and it rings with a different pattern. Audio clue that this call may be important, should not be ignored, etc. |
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| 23:04.38 | hugo-v6 | hmmm dunno how that should work |
| 23:05.40 | hugo-v6 | i configured my snom 190 with 3 lines to differ 3 phone numbers |
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| 23:06.10 | hugo-v6 | which sucks hard |
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| 23:09.20 | smirl | when i get a call from a queue my phone shows 2 lines ringing for 1 call... anyone experienced this before? |
| 23:09.38 | `lyme | how do you unload the drivers for the x100p cards? |
| 23:09.45 | smirl | format c: /q |
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| 23:09.55 | smirl | no jk |
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| 23:10.05 | SwK[Work] | where's the libpri/zaptel experts at? |
| 23:10.05 | smirl | dunno |
| 23:10.28 | smirl | i'm not an asterisk expert but i know all about PRI's |
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| 23:10.55 | blitzrage | SwK[Work]: I thought that was you? :) |
| 23:12.24 | smirl | so, could anyone tell me why asterisk is delivering duplicate calls to each agent in the queue? |
| 23:12.55 | smirl | i should google first probably |
| 23:13.33 | blitzrage | smirl: sounds like a config error... or maybe you have 2 agents trying to be delivered ot the same locatoin or something? |
| 23:15.23 | hugo-v6 | ./me is back but still looks bored |
| 23:15.37 | hugo-v6 | hmz. gonna configure samba now :/ |
| 23:16.28 | smirl | all the agents are static, there should be no login/logout |
| 23:16.53 | blitzrage | hrmmm... |
| 23:17.05 | blitzrage | I haven't done much with queues |
| 23:20.03 | saftsack__ | MISDN free_device: entitylist not empty |
| 23:20.05 | saftsack__ | :( |
| 23:21.37 | hugo-v6 | saftsack__: misdn is evil. |
| 23:21.47 | hugo-v6 | i know it. i use it too |
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| 23:23.03 | saftsack__ | but why? |
| 23:23.28 | saftsack__ | i cant get it. i tested the whole evening and it seems, that it wont running in the future |
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| 23:24.03 | hugo-v6 | saftsack__: wokrs fine here. |
| 23:24.14 | hugo-v6 | at least with * 1.0.10 |
| 23:24.15 | saftsack__ | hugo-v6, do you have a simple hfc a card? |
| 23:24.23 | saftsack__ | and with * 1.2.1? |
| 23:24.25 | hugo-v6 | 1x hfc 1x avmfritz |
| 23:24.28 | hugo-v6 | no. |
| 23:24.33 | hugo-v6 | 1.0.10 |
| 23:24.36 | saftsack__ | the hfc as nt, or? |
| 23:24.48 | hugo-v6 | jep hfc as nt |
| 23:25.11 | saftsack__ | german? |
| 23:25.13 | hugo-v6 | i read that misdn from jolly in version 3.1 will work with * |
| 23:25.16 | hugo-v6 | jep |
| 23:26.02 | hugo-v6 | with install_misdn from beronet wit wont work with 1.2.x |
| 23:26.10 | hugo-v6 | s/wit/it/ |
| 23:26.26 | saftsack__ | yes i used the beronet install_misdn |
| 23:26.34 | hugo-v6 | wont work |
| 23:26.49 | saftsack__ | what is the normal errormsg? |
| 23:27.03 | hugo-v6 | dunno what u mean |
| 23:27.33 | saftsack__ | i have a * 1.2.1 server running with install_misdn in my buero |
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| 23:27.54 | hugo-v6 | does everything compile fine? no errors? then modules loaded without errors? then chan_misdn loaded in * without erros? |
| 23:28.04 | hugo-v6 | then look after misdn show stacks |
| 23:28.06 | saftsack__ | yes |
| 23:28.20 | saftsack__ | in my buero all runs finde |
| 23:28.21 | saftsack__ | fine |
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| 23:28.36 | gnosys | hiho |
| 23:28.37 | saftsack__ | but here at home it compiles fine, but it doesnt find any connectivity |
| 23:28.41 | hugo-v6 | re gn |
| 23:28.45 | hugo-v6 | gnosys |
| 23:28.52 | gnosys | :-) |
| 23:29.20 | saftsack__ | hugo-v6, wie aeussert sich es, dass misdn nicht geht mit * 1.2.1? |
| 23:29.26 | hugo-v6 | saftsack__: well, configured everything? one card as te another as nt? |
| 23:29.36 | saftsack__ | just one card as te here |
| 23:29.47 | hugo-v6 | saftsack__: i get errors dur9ing the load of chan_misdn.so |
| 23:29.54 | saftsack__ | No Connect port:1 |
| 23:30.04 | saftsack__ | thats my error. everything is connected fine |
| 23:30.13 | saftsack__ | but sometimes i get broken pipe |
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| 23:30.19 | saftsack__ | u 2? |
| 23:30.21 | hugo-v6 | misconfigured msidn.conf? |
| 23:30.35 | hugo-v6 | not that i remember |
| 23:30.35 | saftsack__ | hugo-v6, there isnt something for misconfigure, or? ^^ |
| 23:30.55 | saftsack__ | ;) |
| 23:30.58 | hugo-v6 | what do u mean? |
| 23:31.09 | saftsack__ | i can paste my misdn.conf on nopaste |
| 23:31.38 | hugo-v6 | or pastebin.ca what u like. ill look on it |
| 23:31.50 | saftsack__ | http://nopaste.php-q.net/181297 |
| 23:32.58 | hugo-v6 | looks good |
| 23:33.46 | saftsack__ | http://nopaste.php-q.net/181298 |
| 23:33.51 | saftsack__ | and this here to i think |
| 23:33.57 | saftsack__ | back in two seconds |
| 23:34.24 | gnosys | benjk: you here? awake? |
| 23:34.27 | saftsack__ | telephone is ringing |
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| 23:34.45 | hugo-v6 | saftsack__: u use the hfc as te? |
| 23:35.16 | hugo-v6 | hmmz. i wanted to configure my samba nor? |
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| 23:35.32 | hugo-v6 | and my dog wnats to go gassi. |
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| 23:36.07 | smirl | ok i fgound my queues problem... looks like a bug in AMP, in queues_additional.conf it writes all the settings once, then writes them all AGAIN in reverse order, so all the members are listed twice (along with all the other settgings...\ |
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| 23:37.41 | hugo-v6 | i dont understand why someone wants to use amp? that "tool" doesnt look userfriendly or helpful |
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| 23:38.10 | mrtwister | hugo-v6 - amp is good for novice and providing nice gui |
| 23:38.13 | anonymouz666 | When everybody will be celebrating the new year I will be asterisking... heh |
| 23:38.16 | mrtwister | offer better :) |
| 23:38.21 | saftsack__ | hugo-v6, yes |
| 23:38.34 | hugo-v6 | mrtwister: dunno. was/are a novice and dont use it |
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| 23:39.29 | hugo-v6 | saftsack__: well.. paste the lines where chan_misdn.so is loaded. (start with a lot of -vvv's) |
| 23:39.44 | smirl | hugo-v6, i agree, a customer likes to be able to be able to change some basic settings on their system without having to call the vendor for support. things like names on extensions, voicemail passwords, etc, all change very frequently. and it needs to be accisible to the business manager who isn't going to want to learn using linux, not to mention vi for edting confs |
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| 23:40.25 | mrtwister | gui and usability is most important |
| 23:40.26 | smirl | sorry for bad spelling, i'm using a tablet pc and my handwriting sucks |
| 23:40.36 | hugo-v6 | smirl: well... thanks good that i have customers which dont wnat to do that stuff for therself |
| 23:40.53 | mrtwister | smirl congrats :) how fast your screen will die? :) |
| 23:41.25 | saftsack__ | hugo-v6, ok |
| 23:41.26 | smirl | mrtwister, actually, this tablet is really old as it is. i bought it on ebay for $150. |
| 23:41.51 | saftsack__ | hugo-v6, http://nopaste.php-q.net/181300 |
| 23:42.02 | saftsack__ | i tested the cable and i tested another card |
| 23:42.04 | smirl | the stats suck terrible, it's a 233mhz pentium mmx with 32 megs ram running win98. but i use terminal services to my server, so using it is like using an uber fast server pc... |
| 23:42.09 | saftsack__ | the same error everytime |
| 23:42.14 | hugo-v6 | smirl: does it use a font like palm? |
| 23:42.21 | smirl | don't use the tablet for anything other than sending and recieving screen info from the server |
| 23:42.27 | smirl | and it's wifi, so ... |
| 23:42.35 | smirl | i can use my desktop pc from anywhere in the wifi range |
| 23:43.04 | smirl | hugo, yea similar |
| 23:43.20 | smirl | it's actually a bit different than the palm script |
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| 23:43.58 | smirl | but for $150 it was WELL worth not having to sit at myh desk all day... |
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| 23:44.04 | smirl | and it has an available docking station |
| 23:44.11 | smirl | and even with out that, it has USB ports |
| 23:44.19 | smirl | so i can still use a mouse and keyboard if i wanted |
| 23:44.48 | smirl | the only thing i run on this besides remote desktop is x-lite |
| 23:44.55 | smirl | and it actually runs ok |
| 23:45.07 | smirl | the tablet has a sound card, and i have a headet for it |
| 23:45.29 | smirl | so it's basically like a wireless SIP phone with a huge touchscreen display :-) |
| 23:45.33 | saftsack__ | hugo-v6, so why does it run crap? |
| 23:46.25 | hugo-v6 | saftsack__: dunno. googled after "No Connect port:1" |
| 23:46.41 | hugo-v6 | no hints but "use gcc 3.x" |
| 23:46.51 | hugo-v6 | saftsack__: sorry. no idea |
| 23:47.02 | hugo-v6 | but its not a config problem as i guess |
| 23:47.26 | hugo-v6 | its a compiling/compatibility issue |
| 23:47.48 | saftsack__ | yes i think so too |
| 23:47.57 | saftsack__ | so i tried visdn but that doesnt compile |
| 23:48.10 | saftsack__ | it searches for channel_vhp or something like that |
| 23:48.14 | hugo-v6 | i would try 1.0.10 with install_misdn. if that works then go ahead. |
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| 23:48.42 | hugo-v6 | never got time to test visdn |
| 23:48.53 | saftsack__ | ok |
| 23:48.54 | aless | hi. how do i connect two asterisk servers |
| 23:48.57 | saftsack__ | but visdn rools |
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| 23:49.08 | hugo-v6 | and as slong as misdn works (and since a few customers have beronet bn4so-cards) i use misdn |
| 23:49.43 | hugo-v6 | aless: i.e. via iax. in the demo u see how to connect one of them. ive never done that so read a lil bit ;) |
| 23:50.21 | aless | what demo? |
| 23:50.32 | saftsack__ | my bn4so card runs well with misdn |
| 23:50.34 | hugo-v6 | the sample configs. |
| 23:50.34 | saftsack__ | te and nt mode |
| 23:50.38 | saftsack__ | but my simple card not |
| 23:50.42 | hugo-v6 | saftsack__: same here |
| 23:50.53 | hugo-v6 | but still with 1.0.9 |
| 23:51.21 | saftsack__ | no 1.2.1 works fine too :) |
| 23:51.31 | hugo-v6 | well gonna get my pants on and go with the dog |
| 23:51.50 | saftsack__ | ok |
| 23:51.51 | saftsack__ | have fun |
| 23:52.00 | hugo-v6 | saftsack__: i meant it runs here stable with 1.0.9 didnt gave a test with 1.2.1 |
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| 23:52.10 | hugo-v6 | ill have ... brb |
| 23:53.10 | aless | thanks :D |
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| 23:56.04 | mrtwister | LEAVE |
| 23:56.05 | saftsack__ | cYa |
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| 23:56.12 | saftsack__ | has someone visdn? |
| 23:57.10 | saitech | can anyone help me, with a problem lige this. Im getting some errors in the debug logger. It keeps spamming "chan_sip.c: failed to grab lock... trying again" its not contant, but it seems like it loops for some time now or then. When it spams me with these errors, it seems like asterisk is hanging a bit, and i cant getting any calls through. |
| 23:59.56 | kink0 | what I need to write from an AGI to the stdio to do a Dial(Console/dsp5) ? |