| 00:00.10 | rob0 | and the 1.0.7 talks IAX to other remote servers |
| 00:01.06 | benjk | get rid of WiFi and disable the firewall, then test |
| 00:01.51 | benjk | testing with "but I have done X and it *should* not make a difference" are no good |
| 00:02.00 | benjk | s/are/is |
| 00:03.01 | rob0 | hmmm, I do have one Windows box on the wired segment that I can try. |
| 00:04.33 | rob0 | as I said, another wired Linux box works fine with IAX softphones. I'll try the same clients on that Windows box and report back in a bit. And thanks again to all who looked at this. |
| 00:05.05 | benjk | not another box, use the exact same box with the exact same software (the same instance of that software) |
| 00:05.51 | benjk | yesterday someone told me a funny story about using WiFi |
| 00:06.15 | benjk | they had been using WiFi for two months and all of a sudden it stopped working |
| 00:06.51 | rob0 | hmmm, but it's a laptop, and I have no Ethernet NIC for it |
| 00:07.58 | benjk | after some serious troubleshooting of what seemed to be an extremely weird scenario, they finally realised that they had been using a neighbours WiFi base station all the time and the neighbour apparently had switched it off while going on holidays |
| 00:08.17 | rob0 | haha, not possible where I live :) |
| 00:08.24 | justinu | hah |
| 00:08.36 | benjk | I am not saying that this is your problem |
| 00:09.02 | maarken | ha! that's great. |
| 00:10.17 | benjk | in any event, testing with similar setups is never going to allow you to eliminate the possible trouble spots |
| 00:10.26 | benjk | you have to test with the real thing |
| 00:11.10 | justinu | sometimes you just don't have any choice |
| 00:11.17 | justinu | gotta try and make it as close as possible |
| 00:11.48 | benjk | well, I would get an ethernet nic for that machine |
| 00:12.07 | benjk | I have got a USB ethernet adapter for just that sort of thing |
| 00:12.12 | justinu | yeah, shouldn't be hard to do |
| 00:12.43 | benjk | never use it -- its only for testing |
| 00:12.49 | Primer | can someone show me an example of the new DB syntax? Seem this old syntax: exten => s,5,DBDel(LASTCALL/${ARG1}) exten => s,6,DBPut(LASTCALL/${ARG1}=${CALLERIDNUM}) isn't supported in 1.2 |
| 00:13.02 | benjk | and it has already proven a time saver |
| 00:13.25 | benjk | for all you know the WiFi driver on your windoze box could have gone funny |
| 00:13.51 | justinu | yeah |
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| 00:22.07 | rob0 | well we're in luck :) -- same problem on the wired Windows bax using the same idefisk. Can receive calls, no calling out. I really think my best bet is to give up and try upgrading. |
| 00:22.47 | rob0 | the Sveasoft router is not between this host and the 1.0.7 * server, and no firewall either way. |
| 00:24.09 | rob0 | s/bax/box/ (makes it look like I use Dvorak!) |
| 00:24.31 | *** part/#asterisk mogorman (i=root@user-24-236-84-48.knology.net) |
| 00:26.48 | JohnnyC | Is it possible to do Fax over IAXy ? |
| 00:27.04 | Nugget | only when you're lucky. |
| 00:28.06 | JohnnyC | hehe |
| 00:28.19 | JohnnyC | Nugget: http://shop.beronet.com/product_info.php/cPath/27/products_id/57?osCsid=0f83f2060a3ddbc19a81d54055e8c79d |
| 00:28.28 | JohnnyC | And a Sipura ? |
| 00:29.17 | maarken | you have to be slightly luckier. |
| 00:30.07 | Dandan | hm, is * interfaceable with Nitsuko? |
| 00:30.15 | Dandan | shitsuko? :> |
| 00:30.46 | ManxPower | If hotels in New Orleans expect toursists to come back, maybe they should stop charging $150 - $200 / night. |
| 00:30.46 | Nugget | that url doesn't work |
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| 00:31.42 | JohnnyC | sorry |
| 00:31.48 | JohnnyC | its a Sipura 2100 |
| 00:31.59 | JohnnyC | it says it can do fax over SIP |
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| 00:32.05 | JohnnyC | maybe it works ! :) |
| 00:32.41 | ManxPower | JohnnyC, FoVoIP is unreliable at best |
| 00:33.08 | ManxPower | JohnnyC, Perhaps you are confusing Fax with T.38 |
| 00:34.04 | maarken | which the 2100 does support. |
| 00:34.25 | mogorman | hey can somone private msg me |
| 00:34.30 | mogorman | i want to test something |
| 00:34.40 | mogorman | and tell me if they get my response |
| 00:35.33 | ManxPower | go ahead/ |
| 00:35.40 | mog_work | nevermind it works |
| 00:35.51 | mogorman | err nevermind it works |
| 00:36.14 | ManxPower | I prefer my /away message |
| 00:37.05 | peted20 | anyone out there that might be able to help me troubleshoot static on a TDM04b? |
| 00:38.27 | JohnnyC | ManxPower: whats T38 ? |
| 00:38.47 | ManxPower | JohnnyC, Google is your friend, grasshopper. |
| 00:38.55 | JohnnyC | I want to install a FAX on a PTP line but It cannot connect directly |
| 00:39.05 | JohnnyC | oki doki |
| 00:39.33 | JohnnyC | Fax over ip |
| 00:39.56 | JohnnyC | I see, so Is there any way to receive sending faxes with an Analog fax using asterisk ? |
| 00:40.00 | JohnnyC | a realiable way ? |
| 00:40.06 | shmaltz | anybody ever heard or used this company: |
| 00:40.07 | shmaltz | http://www.spiritdsp.com/index.html |
| 00:40.10 | shmaltz | ~seen jerjer |
| 00:40.27 | jbot | jerjer <n=JerJer@pdpc/supporter/bronze/jerjer> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 40d 16h 42m 56s ago, saying: 'not really a debian specific question, but someone here should know - Can i merge partitions in Linux? like my / was created way too small and i would like to blow away another partiton and start over, but one issue is I am currently not ... |
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| 00:42.31 | Primer | this is strange...asterisk has been crashing lately but it reports "killed" in the terminal it was running from |
| 00:42.47 | Primer | yet, I'm pretty sure nothing external is signaling it |
| 00:43.07 | ManxPower | perhaps OOM |
| 00:43.09 | Primer | perhaps some module would do this? asterisk 1.2.1 here |
| 00:43.21 | ManxPower | What signal does it claim to get. |
| 00:43.23 | Primer | dmesg shows no OOM |
| 00:43.50 | Primer | Dec 21 16:30:33 ERROR[13544]: sccp_device.c:170 sccp_session_send: Tried to send packet over DOWN device. |
| 00:43.53 | Primer | Killed |
| 00:44.09 | Primer | that message repeated a few times, then "Killed", then back to the terminal |
| 00:44.11 | ManxPower | Sounds like a bug in SCCP |
| 00:44.14 | Primer | perhaps |
| 00:44.23 | Primer | upgrades, even |
| 00:45.24 | Primer | ahh I actually have a core file |
| 00:46.13 | Primer | stack is hosed |
| 00:46.42 | ManxPower | Sounds like a bug in SCCP |
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| 00:54.57 | Katty | moo. |
| 00:55.24 | Primer | no way |
| 00:55.32 | swm_ | Mooooooooo |
| 00:55.36 | Katty | then chocolate chip cookies are /way/ too old. |
| 00:55.48 | swm_ | Meow... |
| 00:56.01 | justinu | TCP is too old |
| 00:57.23 | shmaltz | justinu, thats why asterisk runs on UDP |
| 00:57.34 | justinu | it should use SCTP |
| 00:57.35 | *** join/#asterisk loud (n=ariel@cypher.punk.net) |
| 00:57.42 | swm_ | SCTP? |
| 00:57.55 | shmaltz | ~sctp |
| 00:57.58 | loud | is there anyone having incoming issues with voicepulse ? |
| 00:58.10 | shmaltz | loud, yes someone in this channel |
| 00:58.17 | justinu | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCTP |
| 00:58.18 | shmaltz | his/her name is loud |
| 00:59.03 | loud | k |
| 00:59.30 | swm_ | ~sctp |
| 01:00.00 | loud | you mean |
| 01:00.03 | loud | ~stcp |
| 01:00.07 | justinu | jbot, sctp is the stream transmissions control transmissions protocol |
| 01:00.08 | jbot | okay, justinu |
| 01:00.09 | shmaltz | jbot sctip is Stream Control Transmission Protocol, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCTP |
| 01:00.11 | jbot | shmaltz: okay |
| 01:00.19 | shmaltz | lol |
| 01:00.23 | shmaltz | I missed it |
| 01:00.23 | loud | eh |
| 01:00.41 | justinu | "SCTP was originally intended for the transport of telephony (SS7) protocols over IP, with the goal of duplicating some of the reliability attributes of the SS7 signaling network in IP. This IETF effort is known as SIGTRAN. In the meantime, other uses have been proposed, for example the DIAMETER protocol." |
| 01:00.49 | shmaltz | bot sctp is also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCTP |
| 01:00.59 | shmaltz | jbot sctp is also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCTP |
| 01:01.02 | jbot | shmaltz: okay |
| 01:01.07 | shmaltz | ~sctp |
| 01:01.09 | jbot | from memory, sctp is the stream transmissions control transmissions protocol, or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCTP |
| 01:01.35 | shmaltz | gtg |
| 01:01.38 | shmaltz | c ya |
| 01:01.56 | justinu | heh |
| 01:04.00 | swm_ | Anyone know why a meetme room would drop a call suddenly??? |
| 01:04.21 | anthm | cos it's asterisk *high hat* |
| 01:04.41 | swm_ | Yeah well I never had this problem before... |
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| 01:05.37 | mover | hi |
| 01:05.51 | mover | anyone got odbcstorage for voicemail working? |
| 01:05.54 | swm_ | I basically set up another asterisk box w/o a X100P card in it to do all my high process crap and have anothher box that answers my X100P inbound calls and sends them to the faster box... Was too lazy to run phone cable to the other one. Wondering if the non existant X100P has something to do with it. |
| 01:06.21 | anthm | are the inbound calls to meetme voip? |
| 01:06.31 | swm_ | yep |
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| 01:10.07 | denon | swm_: you should use a timing source (like the X100P) for meetme stuff |
| 01:12.43 | swm_ | using ZTdummy. |
| 01:12.57 | swm_ | denon: ZTDummy is in use. |
| 01:13.14 | anthm | what kernel version? |
| 01:13.46 | Katty | anthm: hi. |
| 01:13.46 | swm_ | Kernel version... Umm. Pretty recent. Linux Slackware 2.4.31 |
| 01:13.54 | denon | swm_: Ive never been a fan of ZTDummy .. but you should be running 2.6 if you want to go that route |
| 01:14.28 | swm_ | What does the dummy driver and 2.6 have? |
| 01:14.50 | denon | 2.6 has a more accurate timing available |
| 01:14.56 | swm_ | Odd. |
| 01:15.00 | denon | not really |
| 01:15.15 | anthm | hi Katty |
| 01:15.17 | denon | 10 seconds on the wiki would explain this a ll a lot better |
| 01:15.20 | Katty | (= |
| 01:15.23 | swm_ | Wonder if SMP has something to do with my issue.. |
| 01:15.40 | denon | doubt it, everything's been pretty SMP friendly for a long time |
| 01:15.47 | anthm | ztdummy may as well pretend it can't compile on 2.4 cos it doesnt work right |
| 01:16.20 | swm_ | So if I throw a X100P into my box and rid of the dummy driver everything could possibly go away for problems. |
| 01:16.27 | denon | swm_:anyway, what we're trying to say, is either throw a cheap x100p in, or move to 2.6 .. or your results will always be unreliable |
| 01:16.39 | denon | one solution is free but takes time, the other solution is like 10 bucks but is fast. :) |
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| 01:17.31 | swm_ | Yup. I have a spare X100P sitting around here somewhere... The crappiest one ever made... Echo problems "major" on it. :) ... A piece of crap solves the problem :) |
| 01:17.41 | denon | you dont have to use it .. |
| 01:17.44 | denon | for voice, I mean |
| 01:17.48 | denon | it just has to be in there |
| 01:17.53 | denon | (and zap compiled/etc) |
| 01:18.06 | swm_ | Oh yes, I totally understand that. Just going to use it for timing basically. I wont even plug a phone line into it :) |
| 01:18.35 | denon | k, just making sure |
| 01:18.45 | swm_ | Okay. Now how to do take a audio source from a sound card and bring it into a musiconhold channel? |
| 01:19.11 | denon | http://asterisk.paperwork.com |
| 01:19.12 | denon | go search. :) |
| 01:20.12 | swm_ | Answered. Awesome... |
| 01:21.12 | swm_ | Anyone know of a good softphone for pocketpc? |
| 01:21.15 | anthm | as soon as you do it you will be back bitching cos the timing will be messed up with ztdummy ;) |
| 01:21.48 | swm_ | anthm: WHAT? |
| 01:23.00 | swm_ | Do you wish to elaborate on that subject to make it more clear so when I encounter a problem I can fix it quickly without "bitching?" |
| 01:23.47 | anthm | your same timing issue will exist using musiconhold that's all |
| 01:24.08 | swm_ | w/ a X100P card in the box? |
| 01:24.17 | heath__ | swm_: search for app_playfifo |
| 01:25.23 | swm_ | heath__: Does not exist via Yahoo, MSN, Google & many others. |
| 01:26.40 | heath__ | my bad... it's not a full blown app, but you could probably hack something together that would work |
| 01:26.41 | anthm | try http://www.pbxfreeware.org I know the guy |
| 01:27.21 | swm_ | Would that be BKW? |
| 01:28.11 | swm_ | Anthm/Tony wrote the fifo program. |
| 01:30.03 | heath__ | someday when i got some free time i'm gonna figure out how to use that thing to pipe audio to/from a skype client |
| 01:30.25 | heath__ | just got chipmunk noise last time i tried |
| 01:32.32 | swm_ | Skype sux |
| 01:32.58 | rob0 | chipmunk noise means a nut is on the line |
| 01:33.07 | swm_ | Tony what are you doing in the 888 Conference w/ the Audio tests. |
| 01:33.33 | anthm | working |
| 01:33.37 | swm_ | on wat? |
| 01:34.23 | anthm | code |
| 01:34.46 | rob0 | hmmm, maybe Alvin works for skype |
| 01:34.47 | swm_ | Yeah 996 and 888 are bridged now. :) |
| 01:35.32 | swm_ | * I swear anything over 996 will be herd in 888... and backwards * ... :) |
| 01:36.44 | anthm | what are you doing that gives you chipmunks better known as improper audio timing? |
| 01:37.13 | tzanger | hey anthm kill the +r for this channel while you've got the fat +o :-) |
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| 01:38.30 | heath__ | i use that dsp stealer thingy someone wrote for skype and piped the audio to a fifo and tried to play that.. i think it was a skype issue |
| 01:38.33 | hans | is there a trick for building zaptel on 2.6.14? |
| 01:38.56 | tzanger | heath__: dsp stealer thingy? |
| 01:39.19 | heath__ | yeah can't remember what it's called, but it allows you to change devs for skype |
| 01:39.45 | heath__ | dsphijacker or something like that |
| 01:40.19 | tzanger | interesting |
| 01:40.26 | anthm | gives you slinear? |
| 01:41.09 | heath__ | good question |
| 01:41.21 | heath__ | did i mention that i pretty much had no idea what i was doing? :) |
| 01:42.06 | anthm | you can try by saving it all into a file and name it .raw and try playing it |
| 01:42.50 | heath__ | i bet you mean via 'play' cuz it'll go by the file extension? |
| 01:42.50 | Dr-Linux | tzanger: is there any way to see on CLI the connted phone lines to the fxo cards? |
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| 01:43.03 | tzanger | Dr-Linux: zap show channels? |
| 01:43.12 | anthm | ya |
| 01:43.14 | tzanger | zap show status perhaps? I think that's the command |
| 01:43.35 | Dr-Linux | tzanger: i shows all the card's installed port, not connected lines though |
| 01:43.45 | tzanger | not sure what you mean |
| 01:43.59 | Dr-Linux | tzanger: zap show status shows connected card, nothing else |
| 01:44.35 | heath__ | what would be more badass would be to play audio from mysql blob fields |
| 01:44.55 | Dr-Linux | tzanger: i have 2 tdm fxo cards installed (4 ports each) and i have 5 phone lines conntected to first 5 ports |
| 01:45.16 | Dr-Linux | so is there anyway i can see these 5 lines on the CLI? |
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| 01:47.21 | a1fa | can anybody explain me this macro @ http://pastebin.ca/34527 |
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| 01:48.58 | a1fa | ah i get it |
| 01:49.46 | a1fa | what is ARG2 tho? |
| 01:51.10 | a1fa | the number dialed.. too obvious |
| 01:51.45 | a1fa | hello? |
| 01:53.32 | SkramX | Hello. |
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| 01:55.15 | a1fa | syo |
| 01:55.43 | anthm | every value after the macro name in the Macro app will be available in the macro ${ARG1} ${ARG2}... |
| 01:56.18 | a1fa | cool |
| 01:56.21 | a1fa | i figured it out |
| 01:56.28 | a1fa | this extension is very very clean |
| 01:56.28 | a1fa | wow |
| 01:57.14 | a1fa | Starting Asterisk PBX: Starting Asterisk PBX: Unable to open pid file '/var/run/asterisk.pid': Permission denied |
| 01:57.17 | a1fa | grrr |
| 01:58.04 | anthm | try saying please |
| 01:59.02 | a1fa | plese? |
| 01:59.41 | fugitivo | alfa: mkdir /var/run/asterisk && chown asterisk:asterisk /var/run/asterisk |
| 02:00.05 | fugitivo | alfa: astrundir => /var/run/asterisk in your /etc/asterisk/asterisk.conf |
| 02:01.00 | a1fa | nice |
| 02:01.13 | froguz | i can't get my T100P clon doing outgoing calls. asterisk automatically hang up when called phone answer |
| 02:01.15 | fugitivo | alfa: did it work? |
| 02:01.18 | a1fa | hey. i want to limit number of modules loaded |
| 02:01.21 | a1fa | fugitivo: yup |
| 02:01.26 | fugitivo | alfa: ok, now read more |
| 02:01.30 | fugitivo | ~docs |
| 02:01.31 | jbot | extra, extra, read all about it, docs is probably Documentation can be found at http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk or http://www.asteriskdocs.org or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/asterisk or http://www.asteriskguru.com, or http://www.astmasters.net/howtos.html |
| 02:01.32 | a1fa | i just want to load sip and music on hold for right now |
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| 02:02.42 | anu | If I want just a linux pc for answering machine, should I use Asterisk? |
| 02:02.50 | a1fa | Dec 22 02:02:30 WARNING[17905] pbx.c: Unable to register extension 's-BUSY', priority 2 in 'macro-stdexten', already in use |
| 02:02.58 | a1fa | what??? |
| 02:03.07 | fugitivo | anu: for answering machine? lol, you don't need asterisk for that |
| 02:03.27 | hans | fugitivo: it works great as an answering machine |
| 02:03.37 | anu | fugitivo: thank you |
| 02:03.49 | fugitivo | hans: asterisk is a pbx, not an answering machine, i know it'll work great for that |
| 02:03.49 | a1fa | anybody know what a hell? |
| 02:04.01 | hans | fugitivo: and nothing else does work well for that |
| 02:04.09 | hans | I did it with vgetty. not fun |
| 02:04.20 | fugitivo | hans: a regular answering machine maybe? |
| 02:04.29 | fugitivo | how much does it cost? 10 dollars? |
| 02:04.54 | hans | an asterisk box is a much better answering machine than a 10-buck pos |
| 02:05.02 | hans | but yes it's more expensive |
| 02:05.06 | anu | I want something smart, like checking an e-mail or my online accounts |
| 02:05.35 | hans | exactly. it can email you your message, pick up immediately at night, |
| 02:05.38 | fugitivo | anu: what do you mean by checking an email or online accounts? |
| 02:05.39 | a1fa | i get this error.. what a hell? |
| 02:05.39 | a1fa | Unable to register extension 's-BUSY' |
| 02:05.44 | hans | behave differently based on CID |
| 02:06.01 | fugitivo | alfa: "already in use" |
| 02:06.17 | hans | use really neat messages you craft using audacity or something |
| 02:06.24 | hans | all of these are things I do with asterisk for my home system |
| 02:06.29 | a1fa | fugitivo: i dont understand allready in use |
| 02:06.31 | anu | fugitivo: I want an answering machine thai I can script for checking an email for me, or do something else and reply me via the phone, for example. |
| 02:06.34 | hans | loads of fun. do that with a $10 answering machine from walmart |
| 02:06.54 | hans | great way to learn asterisk, too |
| 02:06.59 | a1fa | http://pastebin.ca/34527 |
| 02:07.01 | a1fa | line 13 |
| 02:07.11 | a1fa | how can it be allready in use |
| 02:07.19 | fugitivo | anu: you can do that with asterisk, but remember that asterisk is a complete pbx, not an answering machine |
| 02:07.42 | hans | i think he also knows his PC is a complete computer, not an answering machine |
| 02:08.01 | anu | fugitivo: thank you for an idea |
| 02:08.03 | fugitivo | anu: it's like using only the stereo for music of a ferrari :) |
| 02:08.25 | hans | fugitivo: sometimes all you need is a stereo |
| 02:08.36 | a1fa | fugitivo |
| 02:08.38 | anu | fugitivo: lol, so should I code from scratch myself? |
| 02:08.40 | fugitivo | hans: i don't get a ferrari for that |
| 02:08.45 | a1fa | how can S-BUSY allready be used |
| 02:09.08 | hans | well that's the beauty of OSS. you don't have to pay for asterisk, so it doesn't hurt to use it for an underkill application |
| 02:09.09 | fugitivo | anu: no, i'm sure there're solutions for what you need, but asterisk will do that too, just don't use it only for answering machine :) |
| 02:09.14 | anu | I just dont want to reinvent the ferrari wheels |
| 02:10.34 | fugitivo | alfa: exten => s-BUSY,2,Voicemail(b${ARG2}) |
| 02:10.38 | fugitivo | alfa: exten => s-BUSY,2,Hangup |
| 02:10.43 | fugitivo | that's the error |
| 02:10.50 | fugitivo | two times s-BUSY,2 |
| 02:11.00 | anu | anyone come from digium? |
| 02:11.01 | fugitivo | replace the last one with 3 |
| 02:11.08 | a1fa | oh |
| 02:11.09 | a1fa | shit |
| 02:11.11 | a1fa | i missed that |
| 02:11.13 | a1fa | thnaks |
| 02:11.30 | *** join/#asterisk mogorman (i=root@user-24-236-84-48.knology.net) |
| 02:12.27 | Qwell | mogorman: ! |
| 02:12.43 | mogorman | QWELL! |
| 02:12.57 | a1fa | one more thing |
| 02:12.58 | a1fa | res_musiconhold.c: The old musiconhold.conf syntax has been deprecated! Please refer to the sample configuration for information on the new syntax. |
| 02:13.08 | Qwell | a1fa: self-explanitory |
| 02:13.12 | Qwell | read the sample config |
| 02:13.12 | a1fa | tru :P |
| 02:13.16 | fugitivo | alfa: make samples for new config samples |
| 02:13.22 | a1fa | i did ;P |
| 02:13.47 | malverian[work] | mogorman = mog_work ? |
| 02:14.08 | mogorman | mogorman = mog_home |
| 02:14.13 | Qwell | fugitivo: That's no good |
| 02:14.14 | malverian[work] | Good. |
| 02:14.17 | Qwell | mog_work != mog_home |
| 02:14.17 | mogorman | you ready malverian[work] |
| 02:14.22 | malverian[work] | Ready as I ever will be. |
| 02:14.25 | fugitivo | Qwell: why not? |
| 02:14.41 | *** join/#asterisk Twister (n=jason@216.30.232.106) |
| 02:14.44 | fugitivo | Qwell: of course he should backup everything first :) |
| 02:15.13 | mogorman | okies |
| 02:15.21 | Qwell | fugitivo: because copying one file is FAR easier |
| 02:15.37 | Qwell | `make samples` == breaks all files |
| 02:15.47 | fugitivo | you're right |
| 02:15.50 | Qwell | `cp musiconhold.conf.sample musiconhold.conf` == breaks one file |
| 02:15.53 | mogorman | no it doesnt |
| 02:15.59 | mogorman | it just moves em |
| 02:16.02 | Qwell | mogorman: is the default to not overwrite now? |
| 02:16.12 | fugitivo | i think it keeps a backup |
| 02:16.20 | Qwell | still |
| 02:16.21 | mogorman | yes |
| 02:16.24 | mogorman | its backs em up |
| 02:16.26 | mogorman | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:16.31 | Qwell | Then you have to go through each file...make changes...blah, blah, blah |
| 02:16.38 | Qwell | and, a second make samples will hose it :D |
| 02:17.08 | mogorman | fine ill make it diff it |
| 02:17.20 | fugitivo | yeah, that'll be better |
| 02:17.37 | anu | :| |
| 02:17.54 | anu | digium booth beside the ibms' |
| 02:18.04 | mogorman | ? |
| 02:18.07 | fugitivo | ? |
| 02:18.11 | Qwell | ! |
| 02:18.12 | Dr-Linux | oo Qwell is here |
| 02:18.18 | anu | http://www.asterisk.org/vonfall2005 |
| 02:18.20 | fugitivo | !$%@#! |
| 02:18.27 | Dr-Linux | Qwell: can i go with my question? |
| 02:18.29 | Qwell | Dr-Linux: just your imagination |
| 02:18.36 | Dr-Linux | :) |
| 02:19.31 | *** part/#asterisk FuriousGeorge (n=brian@ool-44c5a9b8.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 02:19.32 | Dr-Linux | is there any command that i can verify, that on which FXO ports analog lines are connected? |
| 02:19.49 | fugitivo | ? |
| 02:20.01 | rob0 | /. |
| 02:20.07 | Dr-Linux | i have 2 fxo (2 port each), and 5 phone lines are connected to first 5 ports |
| 02:20.23 | Dr-Linux | 8 zap channel are configured. |
| 02:20.25 | Qwell | What do you mean verify? |
| 02:20.45 | fugitivo | 2x2 = 4 ? |
| 02:20.53 | Dr-Linux | sorry |
| 02:21.04 | Qwell | Dr-Linux: zap show status |
| 02:21.13 | Dr-Linux | 2x4= 8 |
| 02:21.16 | Qwell | if you see any red alarms, there is a problem |
| 02:21.23 | fugitivo | now we're doing math :) |
| 02:21.26 | a1fa | what is outbound proxy? |
| 02:21.31 | Dr-Linux | Qwell: zap show status shows 8 channels |
| 02:21.42 | mover | damn |
| 02:21.56 | fugitivo | Dr-Linux: cat /proc/zaptel/1 cat /proc/zaptel/2 |
| 02:21.59 | Dr-Linux | Qwell: i have not physically access to the server, |
| 02:22.07 | mover | why i cant connect to a mysqlserver 4.1.10 via odbc? |
| 02:22.18 | Qwell | mover: set it up wrong? |
| 02:22.58 | Dr-Linux | fugitivo: |
| 02:23.04 | mover | Qwel res_odbc is |
| 02:23.11 | mover | [mysql] |
| 02:23.12 | mover | enabled => yes |
| 02:23.12 | mover | dsn => mysodbc |
| 02:23.12 | mover | username => asterisk |
| 02:23.12 | mover | password => ****** |
| 02:23.12 | mover | preconnect => yes |
| 02:23.16 | fugitivo | nonono |
| 02:23.19 | fugitivo | NOo |
| 02:23.24 | Qwell | mysodbc? |
| 02:23.26 | fugitivo | Dr-Linux: now you're in my ignore list |
| 02:23.37 | fugitivo | Dr-Linux: and i don't remember why to remove that from BitchX |
| 02:23.54 | Dr-Linux | ok, i just wanted to show you the output, i'm sorry |
| 02:24.03 | Dr-Linux | i coudn't paste that over here |
| 02:24.13 | fugitivo | pastebin |
| 02:24.14 | a1fa | SIP is UDP->5060 |
| 02:24.22 | fugitivo | cat /proc/zaptel/1 && cat/proc/zaptel/2 |
| 02:24.27 | Dr-Linux | okey wait |
| 02:24.45 | fugitivo | cat<space> |
| 02:24.48 | mover | Qwell odbc.ini |
| 02:24.50 | mover | [mysodbc] |
| 02:24.50 | mover | Driver = myodbcdriver |
| 02:24.50 | mover | Description = MySQL ODBC 2.50 Driver DSN |
| 02:24.50 | mover | SERVER = 1.2.3.4 |
| 02:24.50 | mover | PORT = 3306 |
| 02:24.51 | mover | USER = |
| 02:24.52 | a1fa | and is sceret in sip.conf md5 or just plain text? |
| 02:24.53 | mover | Password = |
| 02:24.55 | mover | Database = |
| 02:24.57 | mover | OPTION = 3 |
| 02:24.59 | mover | SOCKET = |
| 02:25.03 | Qwell | ~pb |
| 02:25.05 | jbot | extra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.com/ |
| 02:25.08 | fugitivo | alfa: plain text |
| 02:25.15 | a1fa | sucks |
| 02:25.15 | fugitivo | alfa: until you use md5secret |
| 02:25.17 | mover | oh |
| 02:25.19 | mover | ok |
| 02:25.21 | mover | sorry |
| 02:25.22 | Qwell | mover: how is it going to know what datbase to use? |
| 02:25.27 | Qwell | you kinda need to set it |
| 02:25.32 | Qwell | and the server... |
| 02:25.35 | Qwell | get real |
| 02:25.37 | fugitivo | alfa: you can use md5secret instead of secret, check the wiki |
| 02:26.00 | a1fa | fugitivo: will sipura send clear txt and then md5 it on the server? |
| 02:26.02 | fugitivo | cool, a server at address 1.2.3.4 |
| 02:26.10 | mover | qwell i have changed the server |
| 02:26.11 | fugitivo | alfa: no idea |
| 02:26.17 | Qwell | mover: from what, 1.1.1.1? |
| 02:26.19 | mover | its a real instead |
| 02:26.25 | Qwell | So fix all the other settings |
| 02:26.33 | Dr-Linux | fugitivo: http://pastebin.com/474526 |
| 02:26.40 | Qwell | unless you plan on connecting to a null database with a null user |
| 02:26.48 | Qwell | silly, silly, silly |
| 02:27.35 | fugitivo | Dr-Linux: what do you need to know? if the cable is plugged? |
| 02:27.45 | Qwell | I already said how to tell |
| 02:27.51 | Dr-Linux | fugitivo: yes |
| 02:27.52 | Qwell | but fine, ignore me, after specifically asking me |
| 02:28.01 | Qwell | see if I help in the future. :) |
| 02:28.09 | mover | Qwell WARNING[13261]: app_voicemail.c:2005 messagecount: SQL Alloc Handle failed! |
| 02:28.14 | Dr-Linux | Qwell: sir you are talking to me ? :S |
| 02:28.19 | Qwell | Dr-Linux: not anymore |
| 02:28.22 | Qwell | d'oh |
| 02:28.31 | Dr-Linux | :( |
| 02:28.37 | fugitivo | Dr-Linux: zap show status like Qwell said |
| 02:28.42 | Qwell | mover: Yes, did you set your odbc.ini up properly? |
| 02:28.46 | Qwell | or, at least...halfassed? |
| 02:28.57 | mover | i have changed all settings to fit in odbc.ini |
| 02:29.07 | Qwell | all settings? |
| 02:29.10 | mover | all |
| 02:29.29 | Dr-Linux | Qwell: i already answered, that "zap show status" doesn't show lines, i shows only 2 cards name |
| 02:29.34 | fugitivo | mover: don't use mysql, it's evil |
| 02:29.35 | fugitivo | muehehe |
| 02:29.46 | Dr-Linux | and zap show channels, shows all the 8 channels info |
| 02:30.01 | mogorman | hey malverian[work] still around? |
| 02:30.29 | Dr-Linux | Qwell: i wish i could understand english and you guys .. :S |
| 02:30.51 | fugitivo | Dr-Linux: zap show channel x (where x is the number of the channel) |
| 02:30.52 | mover | Qwell should i pastebin all files (sligthly mofidied in pass ans server settings? :-) |
| 02:30.58 | Qwell | ~pb |
| 02:30.59 | jbot | i heard pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.com/ |
| 02:31.12 | Qwell | since when do we recommend the .com? |
| 02:31.13 | malverian[work] | Yeah |
| 02:31.17 | malverian[work] | mogorman, I've been privmsging you |
| 02:31.26 | mogorman | hmm im not getting em |
| 02:31.37 | mogorman | i think my jabber servre is dropping em |
| 02:31.41 | fugitivo | Dr-Linux: check InAlarm |
| 02:31.47 | malverian[work] | Hrm.. |
| 02:31.49 | mogorman | i guess my goal of using jabber for irc fails.... |
| 02:31.52 | mogorman | oh well |
| 02:31.57 | fugitivo | Dr-Linux: if it's 1, then no cable |
| 02:31.57 | Qwell | jabber irc? |
| 02:32.02 | mogorman | did you get my messages |
| 02:32.03 | malverian[work] | You got the login information though? |
| 02:32.04 | mogorman | jjigw |
| 02:32.08 | mogorman | its a jabber to irc |
| 02:32.11 | mogorman | transport |
| 02:32.13 | Qwell | neat |
| 02:32.21 | mogorman | well you can message me when you get back |
| 02:32.29 | mogorman | i will be on a real irc client then |
| 02:32.39 | nesys | hi folks, someone using amp? I don't know how to configure voicemailmain ... |
| 02:32.39 | fugitivo | BitchX! |
| 02:32.42 | malverian[work] | You mean when you get back? |
| 02:32.44 | malverian[work] | I'm already here :) |
| 02:32.45 | mogorman | it is neat qwell but the private msg doesnt always work |
| 02:32.48 | fugitivo | nesys: i use asterisk |
| 02:33.04 | mogorman | i thought you were going home malverian[work] to get the echo |
| 02:33.13 | malverian[work] | No, I can do it from here. |
| 02:33.15 | Dr-Linux | i gonna pastebin the output of, zap show channel 3 |
| 02:33.20 | malverian[work] | Did you get my messages listing the 3 issues? |
| 02:33.20 | *** join/#asterisk TheCops (i=nobody@got.securebinary.com) |
| 02:33.21 | mogorman | okies |
| 02:33.23 | nesys | fugitivo ... yes, with asterisk I know how ... but with 'web interface' I don't know :) |
| 02:33.24 | mogorman | yes |
| 02:33.35 | malverian[work] | Okay, then no messages were lost :) |
| 02:33.40 | fugitivo | nesys: why you need a web interface if you know asterisk? |
| 02:33.46 | mogorman | oh so it is still working |
| 02:33.46 | Dr-Linux | once someone told me here, that the FXO cards do not know itself if the line is connected to it or not |
| 02:34.08 | *** join/#asterisk scud (n=scud@12.214.190.139) |
| 02:34.12 | fugitivo | Dr-Linux: InAlarm |
| 02:34.14 | nesys | fugitivo because I'm not alone :) |
| 02:34.14 | malverian[work] | mogorman, => query |
| 02:34.21 | fugitivo | Dr-Linux: if 1 then no cable |
| 02:34.24 | mogorman | ? |
| 02:35.01 | nesys | fugitivo but maybe my query is OT here ... better #amportal |
| 02:35.26 | *** part/#asterisk mogorman (i=root@user-24-236-84-48.knology.net) |
| 02:35.29 | fugitivo | nesys: i know nothing about amp, sorry |
| 02:36.11 | a1fa | h, |
| 02:36.53 | mover | Qwell please take a look http://pastebin.com/474537 |
| 02:37.03 | Dr-Linux | fugitivo: http://pastebin.com/474536 |
| 02:37.11 | mover | i am frustrated |
| 02:37.28 | Dr-Linux | please check the output, and please also tell me what things represents that line is connected/working or not? |
| 02:37.31 | a1fa | god |
| 02:37.37 | a1fa | asterisk wont answer |
| 02:37.40 | a1fa | god damn him |
| 02:37.57 | fugitivo | Dr-Linux: InAlarm: 0 that means that channel is ok |
| 02:38.00 | a1fa | my default context is incoming |
| 02:38.05 | a1fa | and my sip account context is incoming |
| 02:38.11 | a1fa | so when i ring it.. it just rings there |
| 02:38.14 | *** join/#asterisk mog_home (n=mogorman@user-24-236-84-48.knology.net) |
| 02:38.20 | Qwell | mover: 2.50 myodbc? |
| 02:38.20 | a1fa | but there is exten => s answer() |
| 02:38.24 | Qwell | That's like...old |
| 02:38.25 | fugitivo | alfa: be sure you have an s extension or you specify what extension to go |
| 02:38.29 | mover | no |
| 02:38.32 | mog_home | okay |
| 02:38.34 | mog_home | im back |
| 02:38.34 | Qwell | What are you running, Rh6? |
| 02:38.34 | mover | its only the desc |
| 02:38.44 | a1fa | fugitivo: the menu is all set up |
| 02:38.47 | mover | its suse 9.3 |
| 02:38.55 | mover | wait a paste the rest of infos |
| 02:39.04 | TheCops | Can you configure rxgain and txgain for each channel indivudualy ? |
| 02:39.29 | a1fa | i cant even see whats happening |
| 02:39.31 | a1fa | grrr |
| 02:39.34 | Qwell | shouldn't "driver=" be a path to the .so? |
| 02:39.42 | a1fa | i can make phone calls |
| 02:39.46 | Dr-Linux | fugitivo: well, my it shows InAlarm: 0 for all of my 8 channels, i have only 5 phones though |
| 02:39.54 | a1fa | but i cant recieve phone calls |
| 02:40.04 | Dr-Linux | i mentioned my problem at to top of my pastbin as well |
| 02:40.08 | fugitivo | Dr-Linux: 5 phones or 5 phone lines? |
| 02:40.10 | Dr-Linux | fugitivo: http://pastebin.com/474536 |
| 02:40.23 | malverian[work] | mog_home, I've got the number set up. |
| 02:40.25 | Dr-Linux | fugitivo: 5 phone lines |
| 02:40.29 | mog_home | good |
| 02:40.30 | Dr-Linux | total: 8 ports |
| 02:40.32 | mog_home | you can msg me now |
| 02:40.33 | mover | Qwell http://pastebin.com/474539 |
| 02:40.34 | mog_home | im available |
| 02:41.12 | Qwell | I'm pretty sure driver= needs to be a path |
| 02:41.19 | fugitivo | Dr-Linux: if no alarm, then everything is connected |
| 02:41.23 | Dr-Linux | fugitivo: if you read my actual problem in pastebin, then cal you tell me please, is it phone lines problem? |
| 02:41.30 | mover | Qwell http://pastebin.com/474539 |
| 02:41.37 | Qwell | mover: still not a path |
| 02:41.40 | mover | odbcinst.ini has it |
| 02:41.54 | a1fa | [incoming] |
| 02:41.55 | mover | and this point over mysqlodbc to it |
| 02:42.01 | a1fa | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:42.01 | mover | or i am totally wring? |
| 02:42.06 | mover | wrong even |
| 02:42.07 | Qwell | Then why does odbc.ini have it? |
| 02:42.16 | Dr-Linux | :( i'm still on start |
| 02:42.25 | a1fa | my general context = incoming ; Default for incoming calls |
| 02:42.29 | mover | on other machines i unse exact the same with open office to connect to the same server |
| 02:42.33 | a1fa | it still wont answert |
| 02:42.40 | Qwell | okay, I see |
| 02:42.51 | Dr-Linux | well, my 3 ports are empty, but it also show for them InAlarm: 0 |
| 02:42.58 | Dr-Linux | but my problem is... |
| 02:43.01 | fugitivo | Dr-Linux: ok, hold on |
| 02:43.12 | mover | ok now tell me where i am wrong? :-((((( |
| 02:43.17 | Dr-Linux | my problem is that, my first 3 lines are working fine, i can dial out. But when i tried last 2 lines (line4 and line5) |
| 02:43.17 | Dr-Linux | it says "connected" but nothing else, it means i goes to the channels, but i can't find the lines or what? please help. |
| 02:43.17 | fugitivo | Dr-Linux: do you know the phone number of the 2 lines that aren't working? |
| 02:43.41 | mover | i will email you a couple of beers then :-) |
| 02:44.05 | fugitivo | Dr-Linux: ? |
| 02:44.07 | Dr-Linux | fugitivo: no i don't know, but i can check them with dialing out |
| 02:44.13 | a1fa | pedantic=no |
| 02:44.23 | fugitivo | Dr-Linux: i bet you, that you'll have 2 busy lines |
| 02:44.37 | Qwell | mover: Does that file exist? |
| 02:44.41 | Qwell | /usr/lib/unixODBC/libmyodbc.so |
| 02:44.45 | fugitivo | Dr-Linux: try to call all your numbers |
| 02:45.12 | Dr-Linux | fugitivo: its not setup and new lines how it could be busy, and only i'm registed with the asterisk yet |
| 02:45.19 | mover | yes at bottom i have paste a ls -l /usr/lib/unixODBC |
| 02:45.39 | mover | you see? |
| 02:45.40 | fugitivo | Dr-Linux: just do that test |
| 02:46.17 | Dr-Linux | can i try on? fugitivo do you have number with caller ID, if i try to call you |
| 02:46.18 | mover | there are two versions |
| 02:46.33 | Dr-Linux | fugitivo: i don't know anyone in US, i'm from Pakistan |
| 02:46.36 | fugitivo | Dr-Linux: i'm in argentina |
| 02:46.36 | Qwell | mover: You don't see anything extra if you turn on verbose? |
| 02:46.36 | a1fa | guys |
| 02:46.45 | Dr-Linux | Opss |
| 02:46.46 | a1fa | i can recieve phonecalls, but i cant make phonecalls? whats up with that? |
| 02:46.46 | mover | no |
| 02:46.50 | a1fa | err |
| 02:46.53 | a1fa | otherway around |
| 02:47.04 | mover | 14749 pts/2 Sl+ 0:05 asterisk -gcvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv |
| 02:47.07 | mover | :-) |
| 02:47.10 | a1fa | i can make phone calls using my broadvoice sip account |
| 02:47.19 | mover | hehe |
| 02:47.26 | a1fa | but when i call in form other phone, the phone just rings |
| 02:47.31 | Dr-Linux | fugitivo: moreoever i can dial through my 2nd line, but when i dial this line, it acts like its going on FAX, and then hangup |
| 02:47.42 | Qwell | a1fa: You have to answer it, and it'll stop ringing |
| 02:47.47 | Qwell | Then you can talk too |
| 02:47.52 | a1fa | hm |
| 02:47.59 | a1fa | Qwell: i have a incoming dial plan.. |
| 02:48.06 | Dr-Linux | fugitivo: the number is 650 2270552 |
| 02:48.08 | Qwell | Yes, and that is why the phone is ringing |
| 02:48.11 | Qwell | try picking it up... |
| 02:48.36 | Qwell | a1fa: or, try being more explicit about what happens |
| 02:48.54 | a1fa | Qwell: shit,, that sounded really bogus. i am sorry.. i have a incoing dial plan |
| 02:49.11 | a1fa | Qwell: auto-attendad should answer and ask you for an extension.. but the attendand never picksup (answer()) |
| 02:49.25 | Qwell | a1fa: What does it say on the CLI? |
| 02:49.29 | fugitivo | alfa: remove the space between the ( ) |
| 02:49.32 | a1fa | Qwell: http://pastebin.ca/34558 |
| 02:49.40 | mover | Qwell ... |
| 02:49.41 | a1fa | i am not using the cli |
| 02:49.49 | Qwell | well...why not? |
| 02:49.52 | fugitivo | alfa: in your extensions.conf |
| 02:49.58 | fugitivo | alfa: you have answer( ) |
| 02:50.11 | Qwell | fugitivo: shouldn't matter. they aren't required anyhow |
| 02:50.13 | a1fa | uyes |
| 02:50.45 | mover | Qwell u stop helping me? |
| 02:50.47 | Qwell | mover: What does it say about it when debug is on? |
| 02:51.00 | mover | nothing more |
| 02:51.18 | a1fa | god |
| 02:51.18 | a1fa | Destroying call 'SD2o1lf01-d462da76de6428a1485e163f12195bdf-js11002' |
| 02:51.21 | a1fa | wtf :( |
| 02:51.29 | Dr-Linux | fugitivo: i just wanna verify, if its not pbx problem |
| 02:51.40 | Dr-Linux | a1fa: are you behind the firewall? |
| 02:51.41 | fugitivo | Dr-Linux: did you call all the numbers? |
| 02:52.13 | a1fa | Dr-Linux: all inbound traffic is blocked except port 5060 |
| 02:52.18 | Dr-Linux | fugitivo: i'm sorry i don't know the numbers, but i can try to dial someone, who have caller ID, so he can tell me my number |
| 02:52.20 | *** join/#asterisk klictel (n=klictel@24.200.108.185) |
| 02:52.23 | fugitivo | alfa: udp 10000-20000 |
| 02:52.24 | Dr-Linux | but i don't know anyone in US :( |
| 02:52.33 | a1fa | fugitivo: god thats alot of ports |
| 02:52.49 | Dr-Linux | a1fa: open 10k to 20k |
| 02:52.53 | fugitivo | alfa: that's rtp, you'll need that :) |
| 02:53.00 | j_vianna | fugitivo: brazilian ? |
| 02:53.11 | fugitivo | j_vianna: no, argentinian |
| 02:53.14 | Dr-Linux | a1fa: add range |
| 02:53.27 | a1fa | ok |
| 02:53.40 | *** join/#asterisk [TK]D-Fender (n=joe@66.11.164.239) |
| 02:53.44 | klictel | alfa: you can always limit the range in rtp.conf |
| 02:54.10 | [TK]D-Fender | a1fa : Did you make it back in time to get my pastebin? |
| 02:54.34 | fugitivo | Dr-Linux: where are the lines, in the us or pakistan? |
| 02:54.50 | a1fa | [TK]D-Fender: wonderful example |
| 02:54.51 | Dr-Linux | fugitivo: US |
| 02:54.57 | a1fa | [TK]D-Fender: i am using it right now |
| 02:55.03 | [TK]D-Fender | Good.. |
| 02:55.06 | a1fa | firewall is open.. still no answer |
| 02:55.09 | fugitivo | Dr-Linux: can you call from one line to another line? |
| 02:55.11 | mover | only the fucking Dec 22 03:54:27 WARNING[18438]: app_voicemail.c:2005 messagecount: SQL Alloc Handle failed! |
| 02:55.28 | a1fa | wow |
| 02:55.29 | a1fa | still Destroying call 'SD2oc3c01-9a243bac9af840f905fe12c74ec6293b-js11002' |
| 02:55.34 | fugitivo | alfa: what's the problem? incomming calls? |
| 02:55.36 | [TK]D-Fender | a1fa : having problems letting people in through NAT? |
| 02:55.40 | Qwell | a1fa: pastebin a sip debug |
| 02:55.59 | Qwell | $10 says it's a 404 |
| 02:56.09 | Dr-Linux | fugitivo: yes thats how i'm checking, i can call from first 3 lines, but when i try from line4 and line5 it says >> trying >>. connected >> same ....... and nothing |
| 02:56.13 | fugitivo | i second that |
| 02:56.23 | a1fa | [TK]D-Fender: internet facing |
| 02:56.28 | a1fa | Qwell: yup |
| 02:56.32 | a1fa | Sip2.0 404 |
| 02:56.41 | Qwell | pastebin all of it... |
| 02:56.42 | fugitivo | Dr-Linux: try to call from line 1 to line 4 |
| 02:56.44 | a1fa | SIP/2.0 404 Not Found |
| 02:56.45 | a1fa | LO |
| 02:56.56 | Qwell | and somebody owes me $10 :P |
| 02:57.16 | Dr-Linux | fugitivo: i don't know the line 4 number right now. |
| 02:57.31 | a1fa | one moment |
| 02:57.34 | fugitivo | Dr-Linux: isn't it a consecutive number of the first 3 lines? |
| 02:58.15 | Dr-Linux | fugitivo: all are the different number, i know only first 2 numbers |
| 02:59.00 | fugitivo | Dr-Linux: then i can't help you, if you get the numbers, call and if the line is busy, i'm sure the wiring is bad |
| 02:59.01 | [TK]D-Fender | Dr-Linux : do you still have the scripts I wrote for you to specify which outgoing line to use? |
| 02:59.12 | a1fa | ah |
| 02:59.24 | a1fa | http://pastebin.ca/34559 |
| 02:59.35 | [TK]D-Fender | a1fa : So someone's trying to call you through SIP and you're behind NAT and not getting the call? |
| 02:59.53 | fugitivo | alfa: what does your register line say? |
| 02:59.56 | a1fa | [TK]D-Fender: it is internet facing server, no nat |
| 03:00.03 | a1fa | Contact: <sip:102@XX.XXX.XXX.XX> |
| 03:00.10 | a1fa | i think this could be the problem |
| 03:00.16 | fugitivo | alfa: my question |
| 03:00.30 | Dr-Linux | [TK]D-Fender: yes, thats how i'm trying to dialout :) |
| 03:00.33 | *** part/#asterisk hans (n=fugalh@205.208.239.165) |
| 03:00.37 | a1fa | fugitivo: /102 at the end |
| 03:00.45 | [TK]D-Fender | a1fa : pastebin your extensions.conf and SIP.conf for me. |
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| 03:00.47 | a1fa | i think i need to remove that |
| 03:00.54 | fugitivo | alfa: you don't have 302 in your incoming context |
| 03:00.56 | fugitivo | remove it |
| 03:00.59 | fugitivo | and it'll go to s |
| 03:01.03 | a1fa | ah |
| 03:01.04 | a1fa | sweet |
| 03:01.04 | a1fa | thanks |
| 03:01.07 | a1fa | let me try that |
| 03:01.15 | Dr-Linux | [TK]D-Fender: 6 [line] [number] |
| 03:01.23 | mover | Qwell u cant help me? |
| 03:01.30 | Qwell | mover: Not without a proper debug |
| 03:01.45 | a1fa | its working |
| 03:01.48 | a1fa | but one small problem |
| 03:01.54 | fugitivo | oh god |
| 03:01.54 | a1fa | it answers immediatley :P |
| 03:01.57 | [TK]D-Fender | Dr-Linux : that one, yes. Call line 1 from line 4 |
| 03:02.06 | Dr-Linux | but my 4 and 5 lines are not working |
| 03:02.11 | mover | there is no debug. i have switched all on and the only message is the known |
| 03:02.22 | fugitivo | alfa: Set(TIMEOUT(digit)=3) |
| 03:02.32 | fugitivo | alfa: errr, i mean |
| 03:02.33 | [TK]D-Fender | Dr-Linux : not for incoming or outgoing? |
| 03:02.35 | fugitivo | alfa: Wait,2 |
| 03:02.40 | Dr-Linux | [TK]D-Fender: yes i'm trying, but it says >> trying >> then Connected >>> and same , no tone etc nothing |
| 03:02.51 | a1fa | hm |
| 03:02.52 | fugitivo | alfa: exten => s,1,Wait,2 |
| 03:02.53 | a1fa | one more thing |
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| 03:03.23 | mover | qwell is there a linux tool to test the local odbc setting with a testconnect? |
| 03:03.40 | Qwell | mover: dunno |
| 03:03.41 | Dr-Linux | [TK]D-Fender: currently i'm just verifying for outgoing, as you know i had 2 lines first, now i added 3 more, so totall 5 lines |
| 03:03.47 | [TK]D-Fender | Dr-Linux : You need your boss to really test that line. |
| 03:03.59 | a1fa | its unable to dial a sip user behind a nat now |
| 03:04.08 | a1fa | it is unable to transfer a call to sip user |
| 03:04.10 | Dr-Linux | [TK]D-Fender: 3rd line is working fine, i can dial it |
| 03:04.19 | fugitivo | Dr-Linux: when you know the phone #, try to call that line |
| 03:04.24 | [TK]D-Fender | Well have him test the other lines. |
| 03:04.36 | Dr-Linux | okey :) |
| 03:04.45 | [TK]D-Fender | Get them to do the job right and give you the info before expecting you to debug it. |
| 03:05.25 | Dr-Linux | [TK]D-Fender: do you have number with Caller ID, if i call the number and you see my caller ID? |
| 03:05.54 | [TK]D-Fender | thats why I wanted you to dial line 1 from line 4.. <------ so you could do it yourself. |
| 03:06.39 | Dr-Linux | [TK]D-Fender: well, i never see my caller ID, when call comes in it shows "asrecieved" |
| 03:06.57 | [TK]D-Fender | With your luck they cheaped out and didn't even get it. |
| 03:07.11 | Dr-Linux | sorry? :S |
| 03:07.24 | [TK]D-Fender | CallerID as an option |
| 03:08.55 | alephcom | Is anybody here using telasip and running -current? |
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| 03:24.55 | mog_home | Qwell, you around |
| 03:25.02 | mog_home | oh wait nevermind |
| 03:25.07 | Qwell | I am |
| 03:25.18 | mog_home | i no longer need you |
| 03:25.22 | mog_home | in that thirty seconds |
| 03:25.22 | Qwell | :( |
| 03:25.26 | mog_home | you were replaced |
| 03:25.31 | Qwell | was more like 7 |
| 03:26.23 | mog_home | seconds are short in mog_home land |
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| 03:27.14 | a1fa | guys |
| 03:28.51 | file[laptop] | Qwell Qwell Qwell |
| 03:29.38 | Qwell | file[laptop] file[laptop] file[laptop] |
| 03:29.44 | file[laptop] | hi |
| 03:32.44 | jake1932 | damn echo |
| 03:33.09 | TheCops | does ztmonitor can be use with a PRI ?! |
| 03:33.19 | jake1932 | how do you get echo out of chan_irc? |
| 03:33.53 | mog_home | yes TheCops |
| 03:34.20 | TheCops | nice |
| 03:34.29 | mog_home | any zap channel |
| 03:34.34 | mog_home | otherwise you need chanspy |
| 03:34.40 | TheCops | mog_home, this is the same way for rxgain configuration as an analog ? |
| 03:34.56 | mog_home | yup |
| 03:34.58 | mog_home | dont do it |
| 03:35.00 | mog_home | ^_^ |
| 03:35.06 | TheCops | ? :P |
| 03:35.22 | mog_home | you very rarely need to adjust gains with asterisk |
| 03:35.29 | mog_home | at least in my experience |
| 03:36.06 | TheCops | I did with a telco 1004hz test phone number, with 14500 in rx, and this is better then ever. |
| 03:36.17 | TheCops | s/did/called |
| 03:37.49 | mog_home | im not saying therany always cases where you need it |
| 03:37.54 | mog_home | it just seems rare to me |
| 03:37.58 | TheCops | ok |
| 03:38.20 | TheCops | In what case you are adjusting it ? |
| 03:38.43 | TheCops | What can cause the problem |
| 03:38.56 | mog_home | volume issues |
| 03:40.02 | TheCops | that's why it is more clear now hehe |
| 03:44.00 | a1fa | where can i found all those mp3s for ivr |
| 03:44.17 | mog_home | /var/lib/asterisk/sounds |
| 03:44.23 | mog_home | and there is sounds.txt |
| 03:44.30 | mog_home | that tells you what they all say |
| 03:44.48 | file[laptop] | mog_home: Mattttttt |
| 03:45.05 | a1fa | thanks |
| 03:45.11 | mog_home | file[laptop] Jossssssssssssh |
| 03:45.19 | file[laptop] | mog_home: how was your day? |
| 03:45.35 | mog_home | tiring |
| 03:45.42 | jake1932 | file - matt is my new hero |
| 03:45.50 | mog_home | yours? |
| 03:45.51 | file[laptop] | jake1932: which one? lol |
| 03:45.53 | jake1932 | you're on the sidelines now |
| 03:46.05 | file[laptop] | Matt Ogordude? |
| 03:46.13 | mog_home | matt ogordude lol |
| 03:46.18 | jake1932 | ogordude |
| 03:46.19 | *** part/#asterisk DaPrivateer (n=matt7229@gateway.teamfloco.com) |
| 03:46.19 | jake1932 | :) |
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| 03:46.40 | mog_home | mog, maf, man, mar, mab, mas : The power of the 6 matts |
| 03:46.47 | file[laptop] | mog_home: strike a pose! |
| 03:47.24 | jake1932 | anyone know what a jazzy fizzle is? |
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| 03:47.42 | vinko | hello everybody |
| 03:47.45 | mog_home | jazzy fizzle? |
| 03:47.49 | mog_home | hi vinko |
| 03:48.04 | jake1932 | yes - it's in so many hip-hop songs now |
| 03:50.43 | a1fa | guys, if i have call waiting on my external sip account, and one line is in use |
| 03:50.48 | a1fa | and one more phone comes in |
| 03:50.51 | a1fa | and its auto-answer |
| 03:50.54 | a1fa | what happens? |
| 03:51.08 | brettnem | hey all |
| 03:51.10 | jake1932 | ring? |
| 03:51.13 | brettnem | I have a pattern matching question.. |
| 03:51.16 | mog_home | lol thats a good question |
| 03:51.18 | a1fa | do i hear a ring |
| 03:51.21 | a1fa | : |
| 03:51.24 | mog_home | i imagine it rings |
| 03:51.24 | a1fa | or it just rings |
| 03:51.36 | brettnem | can I do something like _[1]5125551212 <== Optional 1+ ? |
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| 03:51.56 | vinko | mog_home: yesterday I think I asked you about MOH problems, and you asked if I had digium hardware ... Do you remeber? |
| 03:52.12 | Qwell | brettnem: 15125551212,1 |
| 03:52.13 | Qwell | brettnem: 5125551212,1 |
| 03:52.17 | mog_home | sure |
| 03:52.19 | mog_home | no but |
| 03:52.22 | mog_home | i can play it off that way |
| 03:52.29 | mog_home | sorries i talk to a crap load of people |
| 03:52.45 | brettnem | Qwell: I have hundreds of DIDs.. any other way you think? |
| 03:52.53 | vinko | Ok... Anyway.. I'm aving MOH problems.. (sounds like Darth Vadar).. and I have read that it probably has somthing to do with the timer... |
| 03:53.00 | vinko | As I'm running 2.6 Kernel. |
| 03:53.05 | a1fa | how many lines can one sip account have, and where do you specify that? |
| 03:53.05 | mog_home | okies |
| 03:53.06 | brettnem | what about _!5125551212 (exclaimation point) |
| 03:53.08 | Qwell | brettnem: nope...I've thought about adding a regex-like "?" pattern, but... |
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| 03:53.38 | vinko | Question is... Is there a solution to this .. I have tried running zaprtc.. but no worky |
| 03:53.42 | jake1932 | match on_1NXXNXXXXXX |
| 03:53.46 | brettnem | Qwell: Needs to be like: _[1]{1}5125551212 |
| 03:53.52 | jake1932 | use goto _NXXNXXXXXX |
| 03:54.11 | vinko | And I don't think I'm running digium hardware ( I think its a clone) |
| 03:54.16 | brettnem | jake: but that'll catch non-dids too.. outbound PSTN calls, where the 1+ needs to be right |
| 03:54.20 | Qwell | brettnem: I was thinking something like _1?5125551212 |
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| 03:54.55 | brettnem | Qwell: that's the same idea.. an optional 1+ |
| 03:54.59 | Qwell | yeah |
| 03:55.06 | Qwell | dunno...pipedreams, I guess |
| 03:55.21 | brettnem | blah |
| 03:55.56 | sandra78 | Hi Guys i need to know if i can use any cellular phone with bluetooth with the bluetooth asterisk channel |
| 03:56.01 | sandra78 | ? |
| 03:56.07 | Qwell | sandra78: sure, probably |
| 03:56.29 | sandra78 | i want to play with the bluetooth channel |
| 03:56.48 | sandra78 | but i would like to buy a bluettoth cellular phone |
| 03:56.49 | jake1932 | brettnem: maybe i don't understand, is this for DIDs and outbound? |
| 03:56.53 | mog_home | so what happened vinko |
| 03:56.57 | sandra78 | nokia 6255 |
| 03:57.40 | brettnem | jake: local customers can call DIDs on the box.. and PSTN numbers.. so both |
| 03:57.53 | sandra78 | :S |
| 03:57.56 | sandra78 | :( |
| 03:58.02 | jake1932 | how do you know the difference? |
| 03:58.13 | jake1932 | or should you know the difference? |
| 03:58.16 | brettnem | jake1932: I need to say, the dids on the box can be reached with or without a 1+.. if there isn't a matching DID in the context then dial it how it was orignally dialed.. |
| 03:58.33 | brettnem | jake1932: yes, if the exten exists |
| 03:58.45 | brettnem | is there a function to test if an extension exists? |
| 03:59.50 | file[laptop] | be very very quiet, I'm doing network maintenance |
| 03:59.54 | jake1932 | brettnem: if an extension exists? extensions are matched firest |
| 03:59.56 | sandra78 | anybody has work with asterisk bluetooth here? |
| 04:00.17 | vinko | Never could get zaprtc to compile.. |
| 04:00.19 | jake1932 | brettnem: first then wildcard stuff |
| 04:01.34 | [TK]D-Fender | sandra78 : I've just picked up a Bluetooth phone and am looking on getting into using chan_bluetooth as well... |
| 04:01.36 | jake1932 | brettnem: are you doing something like _XXXX,1,Goto(${EXTEN})? |
| 04:01.51 | Qwell | jake1932: nice infinte loop |
| 04:01.55 | jake1932 | ,1 |
| 04:01.57 | brettnem | jake1932: right.. so if I list every DID with the 1+ and non 1+ versions then it works just like I want.. but that's a lot of lines of code to add |
| 04:02.12 | brettnem | jake1932: heh.. no |
| 04:02.34 | jake1932 | brettnem: no you don't need to list everyone twice |
| 04:02.40 | Qwell | _1NXXNXXXXXX,1,Goto(${EXTEN:1}) |
| 04:02.42 | jake1932 | brettnem: for instance, i use this for toll free |
| 04:03.01 | jake1932 | so i don't have to rewrite everything |
| 04:03.02 | sbingner | chan_bluetooth isn't in main * tree yet right? |
| 04:03.14 | brettnem | Qwell: that doesn't work.. PSTN numbers (numbers that don't match local DIDs) need to be dialed the way the customer typed it (without without a 1+) |
| 04:03.33 | Qwell | without without? |
| 04:03.44 | brettnem | er with/without |
| 04:03.50 | brettnem | "as is" |
| 04:04.17 | jake1932 | then once the matching is complete, dial out the way the customer typed it |
| 04:04.28 | brettnem | 1 asterisk box serves multiple calling scopes.. but on-net cusotmers are all considered local.. so 1+ or non 1+ works just fine.. this is my idea.. |
| 04:04.45 | Qwell | Why are your incoming and outgoing contexts together in the first place? |
| 04:04.57 | jake1932 | ah - good question |
| 04:05.19 | brettnem | nono.. if I use a _1NXXNXXXXXX,1,Goto(${EXTEN:1})... then no calls will EVER go to the PSTN with a 1 in front.. and real LD calls need them. |
| 04:05.37 | Qwell | separate your incoming and outgoing... |
| 04:05.40 | brettnem | Qwell: They arn't actually.. but via includes they are |
| 04:05.43 | brettnem | hmm |
| 04:05.54 | brettnem | yeah still.. doesn't work.. think about it. |
| 04:06.10 | Qwell | is 5125551212 something internal people would dial? |
| 04:06.15 | brettnem | my pstn gateway has a route like exten => _X.,1,Dial(SIP/ser/${EXTEN}) |
| 04:06.31 | brettnem | so it captures the call just like the caller made it. |
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| 04:06.52 | brettnem | however, I need to check to see if the call is local before I do that because asterisk's dumb loop detection. ;) |
| 04:07.01 | jake1932 | ca't see any danger with stripping off the 1, trying to match with local extens, then fallthrough to VOIP out and add the 1 |
| 04:07.14 | jake1932 | ant't |
| 04:07.16 | jake1932 | can't |
| 04:07.17 | brettnem | jake1932: yeah, I'd need to store that 1 somewhere. |
| 04:07.21 | Qwell | or, just always add a 1 |
| 04:07.34 | Qwell | _NXXNXXXXXX,1,Goto(1${EXTEN}) |
| 04:07.37 | brettnem | Qwell: that's a thought.. but local numbers shouldn't be dialed with a 1+ |
| 04:07.45 | Qwell | But they can be dialed with areacode? |
| 04:07.50 | Qwell | that's just silly |
| 04:08.00 | brettnem | they must be dialed with areacode |
| 04:08.14 | brettnem | it's pretty typical in the NFL cities |
| 04:08.19 | jake1932 | how many local area codes you have? |
| 04:08.21 | Qwell | eh? |
| 04:08.31 | jake1932 | should only be a few |
| 04:08.35 | Qwell | Are you saying people who like football are too lazy/stupid to dial a 1? :) |
| 04:08.36 | brettnem | jake1932: heh.. about 10 |
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| 04:08.47 | sbingner | brettnem: tru EnumLookup |
| 04:08.49 | sbingner | try |
| 04:08.53 | jake1932 | add the ten NXXNXXXXXX |
| 04:09.00 | sbingner | and set up dns stuffs for it |
| 04:09.08 | jake1932 | then fallthrough to 1${EXTEN} |
| 04:09.15 | brettnem | Qwell: no.. I'm saying that people who like football congregate so close together that we need lots of area codes to support their lavish telecommunications needs |
| 04:09.17 | Qwell | jake1932: agreed |
| 04:09.20 | jake1932 | should a simple |
| 04:09.25 | jake1932 | thing to do |
| 04:09.26 | Qwell | brettnem: so, whats with not needing a 1? |
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| 04:09.50 | brettnem | sbingner: yeah, I probably should.. but looks ugly to manage.. probably not as ugly as this, eh? |
| 04:10.05 | sbingner | brettnem: or you could use astdb |
| 04:10.07 | brettnem | Qwell: Local calls don't use 1+.. LD calls require 1+ |
| 04:10.18 | jake1932 | for 10 area codes??? come on here |
| 04:10.19 | Qwell | are they all really "local"? |
| 04:10.24 | brettnem | sbingner: no, I can't use astdb.. heh.. really.. |
| 04:10.34 | brettnem | Qwell: depends who you are |
| 04:10.42 | sbingner | why worry about it? if you try to dial the long distance call w/o the 1 it'll fail |
| 04:10.46 | sbingner | er |
| 04:10.47 | brettnem | Qwell: we serve many calling areas from a single box |
| 04:10.49 | Qwell | imo, anything not in your area code, should need a 1 |
| 04:11.06 | sbingner | Qwell: that's incorrect though |
| 04:11.09 | Qwell | and, you should be able to dial your own area code, with 1+npa |
| 04:11.16 | sbingner | Qwell: anything that requires you to pay toll charges requires a 1 |
| 04:11.25 | brettnem | Qwell: "area codes" don't mean anything anymore.. but I tend to agree |
| 04:11.27 | Qwell | sbingner: 800 isn't valid. |
| 04:11.30 | Qwell | 1-800 is |
| 04:11.34 | sbingner | that's a special case |
| 04:11.35 | Qwell | 1-800 doesn't cost |
| 04:11.44 | Qwell | well, there shouldn't be any special cases |
| 04:11.46 | sbingner | it's long distance, just not to you |
| 04:11.46 | brettnem | correction: dosen't cost YOU |
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| 04:12.13 | jake1932 | either way - there are a limited amount of local area codes, use 1 for everything else... done |
| 04:12.16 | brettnem | we use SER to manage calling scopes.. it's too much work for asterisk |
| 04:12.18 | sbingner | lett me rephrase "anything that incurrs toll charges requires a 1" |
| 04:12.18 | Qwell | either 1+npa+nxxxxxx or nxxxxxx...nothing else should be valid |
| 04:12.32 | sbingner | Qwell: you've never been to washington DC have you? |
| 04:12.44 | Qwell | I didn't say is...I said should be |
| 04:12.54 | sbingner | heh |
| 04:13.08 | brettnem | sbingner: according to the ACTIS INS, you can 1) require 1+ for a toll indicator 2) require no 1+ ever 3) require 1+ always |
| 04:13.27 | sbingner | brettnem: but why do you need to figure that out for the caller? why not just forward it on however they dialed it? sorry I missed the beginning |
| 04:13.28 | brettnem | Qwell: Houston has 3 overlay codes |
| 04:13.28 | Qwell | brettnem: and I'd agree with that |
| 04:13.42 | Qwell | 2 and 3 at least |
| 04:14.00 | jake1932 | should be check for local users, check for local area codes, dial 1 + EXTEN. am i missing something? |
| 04:14.00 | brettnem | sbingner: to know if I should reject or allow the call. If I sell a local only service for example.. then the question is "define local" |
| 04:14.18 | sbingner | aah, your upstream would accept w/o the 1? |
| 04:14.28 | sbingner | on long distance? |
| 04:14.29 | brettnem | Well 1+ has always been misunderstood... does anyone know what it really was SUPPOSED to mean? :) |
| 04:14.38 | brettnem | sbingner: there is not an upstream |
| 04:14.47 | jake1932 | your call will cost more money (cept toll free) |
| 04:14.49 | brettnem | sbingner: I interface direct to RBOC tandems |
| 04:15.00 | brettnem | so go tell them to make it work.. hah |
| 04:15.24 | Qwell | and while we're on the subject |
| 04:15.25 | brettnem | Actually 1+ was derived as a way of saying "TEN digits will follow instead of 7" |
| 04:15.38 | Qwell | let's give canada and jamaica their own country codes |
| 04:15.44 | brettnem | Wahoo |
| 04:15.52 | sbingner | lol |
| 04:15.55 | justinu | any good asterisk sites that makes a good business pitch? |
| 04:15.57 | brettnem | 1+ was never meant to have anythign to do with toll |
| 04:16.09 | brettnem | justinu: http://www.iptel.org/ser |
| 04:16.19 | justinu | so why do you have to dial 1 + 7 digits in some areas? |
| 04:16.22 | asteriskmonkey | anyone got a script for recieving faxes with asterisk 1.2? |
| 04:16.23 | brettnem | oh wait.. they don't use asterisk |
| 04:16.32 | brettnem | justinu: because people are stupid. :) |
| 04:16.38 | justinu | no, because it's a toll call :P |
| 04:16.39 | jake1932 | justinu: rebels |
| 04:17.02 | a1fa | gyts.. i am trying to forward a call on timeout |
| 04:17.12 | sbingner | justinu: that's legacy I assume, used to work that way where I lived in canada then they changed it so area codde was required with 1 |
| 04:17.29 | jake1932 | a1fa: what version of asterisk? |
| 04:17.33 | a1fa | 1.2.1 |
| 04:17.36 | brettnem | actually.. lets see.. originally you can tell (a digit reciever) can tell if 10 digits would follow based on the SECOND digit.. if it was a 0 or 1 then 10 digits would follow |
| 04:17.39 | a1fa | do i also need to hangup after I dial |
| 04:17.40 | brettnem | but not anymore.. |
| 04:17.43 | justinu | yeah, a few years ago, in states like nevada with only one NPA |
| 04:17.44 | a1fa | 1 Dail () |
| 04:17.47 | a1fa | 2 Hangup () |
| 04:18.03 | jake1932 | a1fa: check dialstatus first in the next priority |
| 04:18.04 | justinu | they wanted you to dial 1 + 7 digits to dial "long distance' numbers, even tho they were in the same NPA |
| 04:18.10 | brettnem | this is going to make asterisk + ss7 pretty ugly |
| 04:18.12 | Qwell | brettnem: second digit? What would the first digit be? |
| 04:18.20 | a1fa | what does dialstatus do? |
| 04:18.30 | brettnem | Qwell: think of the original area codes.. always 1 or 0 in the SECOND digit |
| 04:18.40 | jake1932 | a few things |
| 04:18.41 | jake1932 | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+variable+DIALSTATUS |
| 04:18.42 | Qwell | brettnem: ahh, 808, 515, etc, gotcha |
| 04:18.55 | a1fa | jake1932: it does allready :) [TK]D-Fender gave me his macro |
| 04:18.58 | brettnem | and back in the days exchanges couldn't look like that.. it'd wreck the arch for step switches |
| 04:19.03 | justinu | actually, the 0 in the middle denoted the state had only ONE area code |
| 04:19.05 | brettnem | Qwell: exactly |
| 04:19.13 | sbingner | somebody say hawaii? |
| 04:19.13 | justinu | if an area code had a 1 in the middle, it meant the state had multiple codes |
| 04:19.20 | brettnem | justinu: you could look at it taht way |
| 04:19.26 | justinu | it's how it was designed |
| 04:19.32 | brettnem | what if it has an "x" in the middle |
| 04:19.44 | justinu | they couldn't in the original number plan |
| 04:19.46 | rob0 | I'm fine thanks, hawaau? |
| 04:20.07 | sbingner | sorry, 808=hawaii heh |
| 04:20.09 | brettnem | hawaau? lazy chatters.. haha |
| 04:20.16 | justinu | new york city got 212, because it was the shortest possible NPA on a rotary telephone |
| 04:20.26 | sbingner | lol |
| 04:20.29 | brettnem | justinu: that's a good one |
| 04:20.35 | justinu | so cal got 213 |
| 04:20.39 | justinu | second shortest :) |
| 04:20.45 | rob0 | 312=chicago |
| 04:20.49 | sbingner | and hawaii got the shaft |
| 04:20.52 | justinu | yep, third |
| 04:20.55 | Qwell | 989=nebraska |
| 04:21.02 | brettnem | wow 808.. that is a lot of pulses! |
| 04:21.15 | Qwell | or...is 0 more pulses? |
| 04:21.19 | Qwell | 909...Riverside, CA |
| 04:21.20 | sbingner | 0=10 |
| 04:21.21 | brettnem | I think 0 is more |
| 04:21.21 | justinu | 0 is ten |
| 04:21.29 | Qwell | top that |
| 04:21.36 | rob0 | 900 :) |
| 04:21.36 | Qwell | (and no, 900 doesn't count) |
| 04:21.38 | brettnem | have you guys seen how step switches work.. it's wild stuff |
| 04:21.38 | sbingner | 900-toll |
| 04:21.39 | sbingner | lol |
| 04:21.46 | justinu | that's why in the old days, you could pick up a phone and press the hook a bunch of times and get the operator |
| 04:21.46 | *** join/#asterisk tasat (n=tasat@c-67-180-181-221.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 04:21.50 | justinu | you see people do that in movies |
| 04:21.54 | sbingner | justinu: you still can |
| 04:22.00 | brettnem | justinu: a bunch like 10 |
| 04:22.03 | Qwell | and not only can you reach just the operator... |
| 04:22.04 | justinu | crossbar switches are even more impressive |
| 04:22.05 | Qwell | you can call any number |
| 04:22.12 | sbingner | but it's really hard |
| 04:22.15 | Qwell | asterisk recognizes pulse. :) |
| 04:22.21 | Qwell | try it with your iaxy sometime |
| 04:22.29 | a1fa | guys, tell me if i need to hangup as well |
| 04:22.30 | sbingner | everything still recognizes pulse |
| 04:22.32 | justinu | ever been inside an operating crossbar office? |
| 04:22.32 | sbingner | in USA |
| 04:22.34 | brettnem | actually, in the movies, I think they are using a switchboard technology with loop current lighting up a dashboard |
| 04:22.36 | tasat | Could really use some help here: I'm getting IAX2/--- is circuit busy from two providers, every server |
| 04:22.39 | a1fa | http://pastebin.ca/34565 |
| 04:22.45 | a1fa | do i need to use hangup on time out as well |
| 04:22.49 | tasat | How can I debug this? I't sgot to be me.... |
| 04:22.51 | justinu | it's LOUD |
| 04:23.02 | brettnem | justinu: step offices are loud too |
| 04:23.08 | tasat | Everything was working fine before I tried adding another provider |
| 04:23.13 | brettnem | justinu: never had the pleasure of seeing an x-bar.. I bet that's neat |
| 04:23.38 | justinu | they used to use these big rotating drum machines to generate the tones |
| 04:23.50 | brettnem | you can watch a call.. in a second you'll SEE why they call it DROPPING a call.. in a step switch, the spindle in the middle drops to hang up |
| 04:23.57 | a1fa | http://pastebin.ca/34565 LINE 25.. DO i need to hangup () also? |
| 04:24.24 | tasat | What are the casues of the Everyone is busy/congested -- foobar is circuit-busy, etc? |
| 04:24.38 | brettnem | tasat: perhaps a bad dial statement |
| 04:24.40 | justinu | this is a good site if you're into phone phreak nostalgia: http://www.bellsystemmemorial.com/ |
| 04:24.41 | sbingner | tasat: couldnt contact remote IAX |
| 04:24.49 | sbingner | or that |
| 04:24.53 | brettnem | justinu: cool.. always looking for that stuff |
| 04:25.16 | [TK]D-Fender | a1fa : line 25 has nothing to do with "hangup" |
| 04:25.33 | benjk | tasat: this message is used for a whole bunch of things, it usually means "any other problem" |
| 04:25.58 | brettnem | HAHAHA |
| 04:26.01 | brettnem | Long, long, time ago, |
| 04:26.01 | brettnem | I can still remember, |
| 04:26.01 | brettnem | When the local calls were "free". |
| 04:26.02 | brettnem | And I knew if I paid my bill, |
| 04:26.03 | brettnem | And never wished them any ill, |
| 04:26.04 | brettnem | That the phone company would let me be... |
| 04:26.18 | brettnem | But Uncle Sam said he knew better, |
| 04:26.18 | brettnem | Split 'em up, for all and ever! |
| 04:26.18 | brettnem | We'll foster competition: |
| 04:26.18 | brettnem | It's good capital-ism! |
| 04:26.32 | jake1932 | a1fa: this is timout for entering an extension |
| 04:26.36 | jake1932 | timeout |
| 04:26.38 | brettnem | I can't remember if I cried, |
| 04:26.38 | brettnem | When my phone bill first tripled in size. |
| 04:26.38 | brettnem | But something touched me deep inside, |
| 04:26.39 | tasat | exten => _1NXXNXXXXXX,2,Dial(IAX2/###@voxee/${EXTEN},60,gM(playmsg)) |
| 04:26.39 | brettnem | The day... Bell System... died. |
| 04:26.41 | brettnem | </flood> |
| 04:26.46 | tasat | this used to work before... |
| 04:26.53 | a1fa | [TK]D-Fender: do i need to add hangup after line 25 |
| 04:26.53 | tasat | No changes |
| 04:27.03 | jake1932 | tasat: provider error |
| 04:27.08 | justinu | at one time, bell system was the largest employer in the USA (!) |
| 04:27.14 | jake1932 | i can hardly ever use them |
| 04:27.30 | tasat | jake1932: I've tried two providers ...all their servers |
| 04:27.41 | [TK]D-Fender | a1fa : Only if your "i" ot "t" extensions if you want to limit how many times they can screw up or just sit around. |
| 04:27.41 | asteriskmonkey | mmmm anyone know why a number that i have set a fax on would ring busy |
| 04:27.53 | jake1932 | tasat: voxee only works sometimes for me |
| 04:28.10 | tasat | jake1932: how about voipjet? |
| 04:28.10 | jake1932 | usually says circuit busy |
| 04:28.18 | a1fa | nice |
| 04:28.21 | jake1932 | tasat: don't use them |
| 04:28.22 | a1fa | jus the way i want it |
| 04:28.23 | [TK]D-Fender | "t" gets calles after the guy just sits around, and "i" if they tried entering an invalid extension. |
| 04:28.38 | jake1932 | i use asterlink and junction now (along with voxee) |
| 04:28.44 | jake1932 | just hunt till one works |
| 04:29.11 | tasat | jake1932: so not likely on my end? Anyway I can double check? |
| 04:29.15 | jake1932 | usually asterlink will work |
| 04:29.20 | asteriskmonkey | ah .. spandsp is a module right? |
| 04:29.23 | a1fa | [TK]D-Fender: hm it never plays that it is trying to connect |
| 04:29.24 | [TK]D-Fender | a1fa : so if they don't know which extension you just forward them to ${DEFAULT}? Where is ${DEFAULT} and why would there be no voicemail? |
| 04:29.38 | brettnem | heh: his is the story of the unwarranted and criminal dismantling of a company which offered the American people the best telephone service in the world. |
| 04:29.42 | a1fa | i will setup voice mail later |
| 04:30.12 | jake1932 | tasat: you can iax debug and check the messages |
| 04:30.19 | [TK]D-Fender | a1fa : just use the macro I gave you. |
| 04:30.23 | a1fa | [TK]D-Fender: I am |
| 04:30.35 | a1fa | [TK]D-Fender: instead of Dial, cna i use macro ont hat? |
| 04:30.37 | [TK]D-Fender | a1fa : in the "t" extn I mean.. |
| 04:30.40 | a1fa | ok |
| 04:30.47 | a1fa | cool.. thats what i thought.. i wasnt for sure |
| 04:30.50 | tasat | jake1932: trying, but don't know what to look for... any tips? |
| 04:30.50 | justinu | brettnem: that site might be a tad biased :P |
| 04:31.04 | brettnem | a TAD? haha no, this is GREAT |
| 04:31.07 | [TK]D-Fender | yeah like exten => t,2,Macro(stdexten,${DEFAULT},NONE) |
| 04:31.13 | jake1932 | tasat: what does it say? |
| 04:31.16 | [TK]D-Fender | or witha VM box when you decide to make one |
| 04:31.19 | brettnem | justinu: I'm a CLEC.. so I'm a bit baised |
| 04:31.21 | brettnem | :) |
| 04:31.55 | jake1932 | tasat: pastebin |
| 04:31.57 | a1fa | nice man |
| 04:31.58 | a1fa | thanks |
| 04:32.09 | swm_ | !pb |
| 04:32.11 | tasat | jake1932: one sec |
| 04:32.12 | swm_ | ~pb |
| 04:32.14 | jbot | i heard pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.com/ |
| 04:32.14 | a1fa | wuat is NONE? |
| 04:32.18 | a1fa | what is none? no timeout? |
| 04:32.58 | a1fa | ? |
| 04:33.15 | [TK]D-Fender | a1fa : look at the goto's in STDEXTEN. |
| 04:33.20 | asteriskmonkey | where can i find the span dsp modules to compile |
| 04:33.26 | asteriskmonkey | are they in the asterisk-addons? |
| 04:33.40 | [TK]D-Fender | It allows you to template an extension and have it so you don;t HAVE to have a VM box when dialing. |
| 04:34.06 | brettnem | hey, these are great: http://www.bellsystemmemorial.com/oldphotos.html |
| 04:34.36 | a1fa | oh |
| 04:34.38 | a1fa | so its ARGV2 |
| 04:35.02 | a1fa | but if it is none |
| 04:35.07 | [TK]D-Fender | Yes, its the mailbox itself. if you put NONE instead of a mailbox it'll skip being able to leave one. |
| 04:35.31 | a1fa | ok |
| 04:35.34 | a1fa | great man |
| 04:35.40 | a1fa | this is so awesome |
| 04:35.47 | a1fa | i'm loving it.. que cheasy music |
| 04:35.48 | brettnem | heh.. and you thought YOUR cell phone was big: http://www.bellsystemmemorial.com/images/oldphotos/ba_48.jpg |
| 04:35.49 | a1fa | cheesy |
| 04:35.59 | [TK]D-Fender | a1fa : Believe me.... this is the LIGHT version of what I do... |
| 04:36.18 | jake1932 | *yawn* |
| 04:36.19 | a1fa | it is awesome |
| 04:36.33 | Qwell | http://www.bellsystemmemorial.com/images/oldphotos/ba_21.jpg 50c/min |
| 04:36.37 | Qwell | That's just sick |
| 04:36.52 | a1fa | lol |
| 04:36.57 | a1fa | hey, one problem |
| 04:37.00 | brettnem | I love these phone poles.. I especially like the one that appears to be.. well.. mobile: http://www.bellsystemmemorial.com/images/oldphotos/ba_33.jpg |
| 04:37.13 | a1fa | it never plays connecting |
| 04:37.16 | a1fa | priv-trying |
| 04:37.46 | [TK]D-Fender | ? |
| 04:37.54 | [TK]D-Fender | Where? |
| 04:37.58 | a1fa | in timeout |
| 04:38.04 | a1fa | i put Playback(priv-trying) |
| 04:38.06 | a1fa | it never plays it |
| 04:38.20 | [TK]D-Fender | Where do I even see that line? |
| 04:38.28 | a1fa | its my new version |
| 04:38.34 | asteriskmonkey | where do i get SPANDSP! |
| 04:38.40 | asteriskmonkey | and will the old one work from like 2004 |
| 04:38.45 | [TK]D-Fender | ...maybe you should SHOW us before asking why it doesn't work :) |
| 04:39.21 | a1fa | and enter-ext-of-person |
| 04:39.26 | a1fa | it jumps in the middle of the sentence |
| 04:39.27 | [TK]D-Fender | Oh, and if you're not feeling to dizzy take a peek at my STDEXTEN :D http://pastebin.ca/34566 |
| 04:39.39 | a1fa | "sion of the person you are trying to reach" |
| 04:39.41 | [TK]D-Fender | a1fa : PASTEBIN IT. |
| 04:39.45 | tasat | jake1932: found a server that works... |
| 04:39.51 | benjk | brettnem: US phone service totally sucks |
| 04:39.57 | jake1932 | cool |
| 04:40.00 | brettnem | yep |
| 04:40.05 | benjk | 13 business days and still on 1-800 number activated |
| 04:40.09 | benjk | third world |
| 04:40.26 | jake1932 | you can keep voxee in there and try it first since it's cheap |
| 04:40.27 | brettnem | benjk: the incumbants make competition almost impossible |
| 04:40.37 | benjk | in any halfway technologically advanced country this would have been a matter of max 30 mins |
| 04:40.38 | tasat | Rx-Frame Retry[ No] -- OSeqno: 000 ISeqno: 001 Type: IAX Subclass: ACK |
| 04:40.38 | tasat | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:40.38 | tasat | Rx-Frame Retry[ No] -- OSeqno: 000 ISeqno: 001 Type: IAX Subclass: REJECT |
| 04:40.38 | tasat | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:40.38 | tasat | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:40.58 | tasat | What's that? bad password? |
| 04:41.04 | benjk | tasat: check your context |
| 04:41.19 | a1fa | http://pastebin.ca/34567 |
| 04:41.24 | a1fa | [TK]D-Fender: my man, http://pastebin.ca/34567 |
| 04:41.24 | tasat | benjk: what about the context? |
| 04:42.08 | benjk | you often get this message if you have specified a context that doesn't exist, ie misspelt or forgotten to create it in extensions.conf |
| 04:42.08 | jake1932 | sorry - gotta go to sleep :) see ya |
| 04:42.41 | benjk | in any event, its either username wrong, password wrong or context wrong |
| 04:42.58 | brettnem | it's like something terry gilliam came up with: http://www.bellsystemmemorial.com/images/ross_hamilton/walhwc08-1945_.png |
| 04:43.04 | brettnem | reminds me of "brazil" |
| 04:43.15 | [TK]D-Fender | a1fa : Answer FIRST, then wait 2 seconds before playing back. |
| 04:43.42 | a1fa | ok |
| 04:43.48 | a1fa | Dec 22 04:43:05 WARNING[19520]: app_playback.c:132 playback_exec: ast_streamfile failed on SIP/2025171605-5b76 for priv-trying |
| 04:43.50 | a1fa | :P |
| 04:43.58 | a1fa | figured out why that is not working |
| 04:44.24 | tasat | benjk: thanks, not sure how the context can be wrong, can you give me an example? |
| 04:45.18 | *** join/#asterisk grimse (n=grimse@p5481D863.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 04:45.35 | a1fa | ok.. thats working |
| 04:45.38 | a1fa | need to found a working sound |
| 04:45.52 | benjk | well, like context=flintstones in iax.conf and [flintst0nes] in extensions.conf |
| 04:46.57 | [TK]D-Fender | a1fa, Just make your own! |
| 04:47.09 | *** join/#asterisk implicit (n=implicit@200.179.233.155) |
| 04:47.47 | a1fa | dude, i have a really bad russian accent :( |
| 04:47.58 | a1fa | and i speak so fast, no body will understand me |
| 04:48.06 | a1fa | they be like : wtf? repeat |
| 04:48.06 | implicit | :) |
| 04:48.10 | [TK]D-Fender | a1fa, I made 28 recordings to support my dial-plan.... just make your own message. I have almost as many recordings as you have lines in your dialplan :) |
| 04:48.17 | [TK]D-Fender | :O |
| 04:48.26 | [TK]D-Fender | Sorry, make that 38 recordings... |
| 04:48.29 | [TK]D-Fender | and oh well! |
| 04:49.50 | [TK]D-Fender | a1fa : or try pbx-transfer |
| 04:51.44 | a1fa | will do |
| 04:54.25 | a1fa | i need to play that monkey sound |
| 04:54.30 | a1fa | hheeh |
| 05:01.14 | `Sauron | Fender: Hehn. I don't want to know how many lines are in my dialplan... |
| 05:01.29 | `Sauron | -= 284 extensions (441 priorities) in 99 contexts. =- |
| 05:02.16 | fugitivo | not using macros? |
| 05:02.27 | `Sauron | KATnip |
| 05:02.31 | `Sauron | get it? (lame :) |
| 05:02.59 | `Sauron | fugitivo: that's with macros |
| 05:03.00 | Katty | ... |
| 05:03.09 | Katty | silly rabbit. |
| 05:03.14 | Katty | naps are for kids. |
| 05:03.17 | `Sauron | wc -l shows me 442 lines |
| 05:03.26 | `Sauron | what about nips? |
| 05:03.26 | Katty | or something like that |
| 05:03.41 | Katty | those are for grownup girls. |
| 05:05.12 | *** join/#asterisk fanatic (n=jparrott@pcp01488192pcs.limstn01.de.comcast.net) |
| 05:08.40 | [TK]D-Fender | `Sauron : OMG |
| 05:09.42 | [TK]D-Fender | -= 101 extensions (373 priorities) in 27 contexts. =- |
| 05:10.01 | [TK]D-Fender | Hmmm, not far off ;) just different distribution :D |
| 05:10.15 | fugitivo | look at this game http://www.addictinggames.com/capoeirafighter3.html |
| 05:11.46 | Katty | mister fender. |
| 05:12.08 | [TK]D-Fender | aye :) |
| 05:13.29 | `Sauron | stupid flash cra |
| 05:13.30 | `Sauron | p |
| 05:14.39 | *** join/#asterisk Beirdo (n=gjhurlbu@unaffiliated/beirdo) |
| 05:14.48 | fugitivo | it looks a nice flash coding to me |
| 05:17.12 | *** join/#asterisk r0d3nt|m (i=r0d3nt@tinfoilhat.net) |
| 05:17.50 | [TK]D-Fender | Katty : mew? |
| 05:26.59 | *** join/#asterisk |dennis| (i=dennis@200.32.215.84) |
| 05:30.51 | *** join/#asterisk r0d3nt|m (i=r0d3nt@66.0.156.250) |
| 05:33.54 | *** join/#asterisk surfdue (n=tyler@unaffiliated/surfdue) |
| 05:34.53 | surfdue | is ther a gui built in now |
| 05:35.00 | surfdue | or you still have to get one seporately? |
| 05:40.34 | *** join/#asterisk _Madar (n=tophe@219-84-129-163-adsl-tpe.static.so-net.net.tw) |
| 05:42.04 | Twister | I know this is not the approporiate place for this and im sorry however i didnt know where else to go. has anyone ever worked with avaya/lucent partner acs systems that would be willing to answer a question for me |
| 05:42.54 | alephcom | surfdue: You have to get one seperately. |
| 05:43.10 | alephcom | Many of us, me included hope that it stays that way for a LONG time. :-) |
| 05:43.25 | surfdue | http://www.voiceone.it/download/ |
| 05:43.31 | surfdue | this looks better then ampp |
| 05:43.48 | [TK]D-Fender | GUI = SUCK |
| 05:45.16 | a1fa | yeha dude |
| 05:45.22 | a1fa | what is fun messing with gui |
| 05:45.33 | *** join/#asterisk kusznir_ (n=kusznir@pool-70-110-34-187.sea.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 05:45.37 | a1fa | when you can write that shit in the same time it takes you to download that gui package |
| 05:45.39 | a1fa | and fix up |
| 05:45.40 | a1fa | :P |
| 05:46.15 | a1fa | night |
| 05:46.59 | kusznir_ | hi all: I'm having trouble configuring a D-Link 1120S to work with my * server (1.0.7 on openWRT). I have a GrandStream gxp2000 already working. |
| 05:47.23 | Qwell | ! |
| 05:47.53 | kusznir_ | the * server is showing the extention as registered, and sip debug shows a conversation that appears to authenticate sucessfully. |
| 05:48.06 | *** join/#asterisk grandy (n=mmmurf@pcp05305753pcs.wanarb01.mi.comcast.net) |
| 05:48.29 | kusznir_ | However, my phone on the ATA does not provide a dialtone (it does allow me to generate touch tones). |
| 05:48.40 | grandy | hello... does anyone recommend a good language for writing agi scripts in? I have used php, but i'm looking something that handles exceptions better so that i can make the scripts more robust easily... any suggestions? |
| 05:48.43 | *** join/#asterisk MasterObi-WanK (i=MasterOb@200.122.159.228) |
| 05:49.01 | Qwell | grandy: c |
| 05:49.12 | Qwell | except they wouldn't be agi scripts |
| 05:49.41 | MasterObi-WanK | hello anyone here that provides services to configure asterisk PBX by SSH ? |
| 05:49.41 | mog_home | boo agi |
| 05:49.50 | grandy | Qwell: why do you like c for 'em? |
| 05:49.52 | Qwell | MasterObi-WanK: what's needed? |
| 05:49.56 | mog_home | i have a box MasterObi-WanK |
| 05:49.57 | Qwell | grandy: c=fast |
| 05:50.03 | mog_home | c = super fast |
| 05:50.22 | Qwell | vbscript = super fast |
| 05:50.29 | Qwell | So, I've decided... |
| 05:50.31 | mog_home | super stupid |
| 05:50.32 | mog_home | but close |
| 05:50.37 | Qwell | I'm gonna say one thing daily, that will get me flamed. |
| 05:50.50 | MasterObi-WanK | Qwell, I need built from scratch pbx or asterisk at home, to do sip trunking and IAX trunking optimizer for bandwidth saving, and more customizations |
| 05:50.50 | Qwell | That was me meeting my quota |
| 05:51.14 | mog_home | lol qwell one thing.... |
| 05:51.16 | mog_home | sure |
| 05:51.18 | grandy | i like vb... if it had a better name it would probably have been popular in a wider variety of circles... like Ruby, for example... |
| 05:51.20 | Qwell | mog_home: :P |
| 05:51.27 | Qwell | MasterObi-WanK: msg me with what you need (exactly), how much you're offering, and a timeframe required |
| 05:52.13 | Qwell | daddy needs a new processor... |
| 05:52.53 | mog_home | lol no grandy |
| 05:53.02 | mog_home | ruby python etc are slow |
| 05:53.06 | mog_home | they will be slow |
| 05:53.10 | Qwell | ruby is teh hotness though |
| 05:53.17 | mog_home | Slow hotness |
| 05:53.23 | mog_home | C old and true |
| 05:53.25 | Qwell | hotness nontheless |
| 05:54.37 | mog_home | if i wanted something slow |
| 05:54.41 | mog_home | id run java |
| 05:54.43 | Qwell | god |
| 05:55.13 | Qwell | I loath java |
| 05:55.14 | mog_home | and a python interpreter inside that |
| 05:55.16 | Qwell | heh |
| 05:55.20 | mog_home | and inside that ruby |
| 05:55.20 | [TK]D-Fender | I wrote a language that is likely slower taht just about anything else out there :) |
| 05:55.25 | Qwell | running in windows |
| 05:55.30 | Qwell | embedded |
| 05:55.32 | mog_home | running in a vm |
| 05:56.55 | mog_home | man word to the wise |
| 05:57.00 | mog_home | dont mix redbull and milk |
| 05:57.04 | Qwell | eww |
| 05:57.06 | mog_home | its not as good as it sounds |
| 05:57.13 | Qwell | that bad? |
| 05:57.13 | Qwell | heh |
| 05:57.16 | Qwell | it sounds awful |
| 05:57.21 | mog_home | it was calciumy |
| 05:58.40 | kusznir_ | what does: WARNING[425]: chan_sip.c:694 retrans_pkt: Maximum retries exceeded on call....for seqno 102 (Non-critical Request) mean? |
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| 06:08.58 | infinity1 | redbul and milk? that does NOT sound good |
| 06:12.43 | Qwell | wtf |
| 06:12.49 | Qwell | lilo jumped ship :P |
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| 06:13.02 | Qwell | I thought the captain was supposed to stay, and sink? |
| 06:13.04 | mog_home | lol |
| 06:13.06 | Qwell | Ahh, there he is! :P |
| 06:13.11 | Qwell | lilo: ;] |
| 06:13.17 | mog_home | lilo is fine the other guy |
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| 06:13.22 | mog_home | always fakes me out |
| 06:13.46 | Qwell | mog_home: dm? |
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| 06:18.07 | Qwell | nope |
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| 06:18.08 | Qwell | turbulance still |
| 06:18.51 | grandy | Qwell: do you seriously write agi programs in c? |
| 06:19.05 | kusznir_ | Anyone here use the D-Link DVG-1120? |
| 06:19.06 | mog_home | what do you need to do in agi that you cant do in dialplan |
| 06:19.16 | grandy | mog_home: me? |
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| 06:19.42 | mog_home | sure |
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| 06:19.48 | MGSsancho | >_> |
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| 06:20.29 | grandy | mog_home: i access a db, check if the caller id is already a user, prompt for pin, etc... if i could do the db queries in the dialplan then it would be much easier... is that possible? |
| 06:20.37 | mog_home | yes |
| 06:20.47 | mog_home | for mysql and postgres |
| 06:21.03 | Qwell | and odbc |
| 06:21.03 | mog_home | oh really rock on |
| 06:21.05 | grandy | mog_home: then maybe i shouldn't be using agi... do you know what i'd searhc for to find docs on the postgres db interface... |
| 06:21.07 | mog_home | i didnt no qwell |
| 06:21.19 | Qwell | mog_home: Realtime and RealtimeUpdate |
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| 06:21.32 | Qwell | I use those for my macro-agentlogonoff |
| 06:21.39 | mog_home | app_postgress |
| 06:21.42 | mog_home | nice |
| 06:21.50 | grandy | oh also i'm using deadagi to call a script that scps some files... can i do that in the dial plan too? |
| 06:21.58 | mog_home | yeah probably |
| 06:22.02 | Qwell | grandy: h exten |
| 06:22.36 | grandy | Qwell: whaddya mean? |
| 06:22.46 | Qwell | use the h exten to do all of that |
| 06:23.00 | Qwell | deadagi would need to be called from there anyhow |
| 06:23.04 | grandy | Qwell: need to read about that, i don't know what it is... |
| 06:23.20 | mog_home | i am not saying agi isnt great |
| 06:23.28 | Qwell | mog_home: I'll say it. :) |
| 06:23.31 | Qwell | agi isn't great |
| 06:23.35 | mog_home | just 99% of the time it isnt needed |
| 06:23.36 | grandy | mog_home: sounds like you guys don't like it |
| 06:23.49 | Qwell | grandy: no point in using it, a lot of the time |
| 06:23.57 | mog_home | ael is pretty hot |
| 06:24.06 | Qwell | I've not touched ael yet... |
| 06:24.08 | grandy | the only other concern i have is, what if a command fails, can i still set up the dialplan to at least log intelligently or recover gracefully? |
| 06:24.17 | Qwell | grandy: sure |
| 06:24.28 | Qwell | many commands set a status variable |
| 06:24.58 | grandy | ok... well i'm glad i have an excuse to really learn the dialplan b/c i was going to have to do so in order to set up some other stuff in a few weeks |
| 06:25.21 | grandy | so h exten ... lemme read about that for a minute... btw, is ael worth looking into for any of this? |
| 06:25.24 | Qwell | mog_home: I need to give somebody at work a crash course in asterisk... |
| 06:25.38 | mog_home | fun fun fun |
| 06:25.39 | Qwell | grandy: ael is experimental, but it works |
| 06:25.45 | mog_home | ill ready app_segfault for ya |
| 06:25.51 | mog_home | its not experimental |
| 06:25.57 | Qwell | isn't it? |
| 06:26.00 | mog_home | it converts it to data structures |
| 06:26.05 | mog_home | just like dial plan |
| 06:26.14 | mog_home | not all things work in it like normal dialplan |
| 06:26.20 | grandy | hmm... ok... |
| 06:26.22 | grandy | cool |
| 06:26.22 | mog_home | like hints are still broken i think |
| 06:26.27 | Qwell | aww |
| 06:26.28 | mog_home | but most things work just fine |
| 06:26.28 | grandy | can you do db calls from it do you know? |
| 06:26.34 | mog_home | yes |
| 06:26.41 | mog_home | it can execute all the normal apps |
| 06:26.43 | Qwell | grandy: all the same applications/functions are available |
| 06:26.49 | mog_home | except hints |
| 06:26.56 | Qwell | you'd think hints would work |
| 06:26.58 | mog_home | and some other little things |
| 06:27.01 | Qwell | aren't they just pri -1? |
| 06:27.04 | grandy | would you recommend based on what i've mentioned that i stick with the regular dial plan or that i look into aes? |
| 06:27.04 | mog_home | but if it doesnt work its obvious |
| 06:27.22 | Qwell | mog_home: is everything gonna go to ael eventually? |
| 06:27.24 | mog_home | dial plan is like basic |
| 06:27.27 | mog_home | ael is like perl |
| 06:27.34 | Qwell | ael reminds me a lot of c |
| 06:27.37 | mog_home | you can do everything in both |
| 06:27.44 | mog_home | one is easier for some things than the other |
| 06:27.52 | mog_home | i dont think we will ever get rid of normal dial plan |
| 06:27.58 | mog_home | as its easier for non programmers |
| 06:28.01 | Qwell | yeah... |
| 06:28.12 | mog_home | we wont get rid of it till we go webgui everywhere |
| 06:28.14 | mog_home | aka nevre |
| 06:28.19 | Qwell | webgui?! |
| 06:28.33 | mog_home | it was a joke |
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| 06:28.37 | Qwell | oh :p |
| 06:28.54 | grandy | ok... thanks much... |
| 06:28.54 | Qwell | ooo, you know what would be hot? |
| 06:28.59 | Qwell | doxygen docs in ael |
| 06:29.04 | grandy | i'm going to look into it asap |
| 06:29.06 | grandy | thanks guys |
| 06:29.11 | mog_home | no prob grandy |
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| 06:36.02 | Primer | damn, finally got this 7920 working with WPA |
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| 06:57.16 | Primer | dammit, seems that the 7920's RTP isn't punching through my NAT |
| 06:57.25 | Primer | it goes out but doesn't come back in |
| 06:57.37 | Primer | it comes back, but the NAT drops it |
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| 07:02.10 | kuku5 | How do I "call" the company directory |
| 07:03.14 | swm_ | kuku5: Pess Pound then shit in a bag and have your mother eat it? |
| 07:03.34 | kuku5 | fuck off ? :) |
| 07:03.48 | swm_ | LOL kinky... |
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| 07:04.12 | kuku5 | im sure there is a # option sowhere that I have to put in |
| 07:04.48 | swm_ | Uhh... Dial 1-800-IM-QUEER ? |
| 07:05.29 | kuku5 | you done? |
| 07:06.32 | mog_home | ? |
| 07:06.42 | swm_ | Just helpin ya out... Thought ya were sittin in your closet talkin in here... Tryin to get ya out... |
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| 07:09.30 | mog_home | swm_ i thought you agreed to stop being a loser in here |
| 07:09.31 | mog_home | ? |
| 07:09.45 | swm_ | Yeah but I saw that you were here so I could not resist getting a rise out of ya |
| 07:09.56 | mog_home | well you did |
| 07:10.00 | mog_home | rack up a point |
| 07:10.02 | mog_home | and knock it off |
| 07:10.19 | swm_ | but if you got a rise and i knocked it off you would be a-sexual? right? |
| 07:10.53 | mog_home | wow |
| 07:10.56 | mog_home | never a dul moment |
| 07:10.59 | mog_home | but seriously |
| 07:11.01 | mog_home | shut it |
| 07:11.42 | swm_ | Uhhhh ... Uhhhhh huhuh ... He He ... Hey beavis... Heheh huh huehe huh ... He said "Shut it..." huh ehhe huhuh hehehe huh hehe yeah .. huh shut it... hehe huh eheheu huhe heh uhuh |
| 07:12.09 | Primer | hehe |
| 07:12.42 | swm_ | Hey butthead ... i think he likes us... huh ehehuh huh eheh huh |
| 07:13.21 | mog_home | do you want to be /banned? |
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| 07:13.42 | swm_ | Really? So I can use another ip address? Proxy myself and go from somewhere else around the world... ok |
| 07:13.49 | Primer | do it! do it! |
| 07:14.12 | mog_home | wow you and any other script kiddy |
| 07:14.17 | mog_home | and we can just i dont know |
| 07:14.18 | swm_ | Advantages of having 5 ISP's. :) |
| 07:14.19 | mog_home | keep banning you |
| 07:14.31 | mog_home | im all up for playing whack a mole |
| 07:14.42 | swm_ | Oh I guess I could be good ... |
| 07:14.46 | swm_ | for those without a sense of humor. |
| 07:14.54 | lilo | wheeee |
| 07:15.04 | lilo | much better now |
| 07:15.19 | mog_home | yay lilo |
| 07:15.46 | lilo | mog_home: it's just the volume of spambots we're getting....needed to adjust the way we were handling them |
| 07:15.51 | lilo | mog_home: it's a resource hog |
| 07:15.59 | mog_home | i bet |
| 07:16.09 | mog_home | how do you guys pin em down, just traffic? |
| 07:16.12 | swm_ | Oh I hate those things. |
| 07:16.42 | Primer | argh, this is pissing me off |
| 07:16.59 | Primer | why does NAT fuck everything |
| 07:17.04 | swm_ | Whats pissin ya off primer? |
| 07:17.13 | wasim | Primer: NAT doesn't do anything to IAX |
| 07:17.34 | Primer | I have a 7920 that I've finally got connected to my AP with WPA, and my NAT won't NAT the RTP |
| 07:17.36 | lilo | mog_home: well, there will be a patch committed at some point, but I'm not talking much about it for now 8) |
| 07:17.43 | Primer | wasim: unfortunately cisco isn't fond of IAX |
| 07:17.49 | mog_home | okies |
| 07:17.59 | lilo | mog_home: I'm enjoying time off from the dern things 8) |
| 07:18.00 | mog_home | when did you start hanging out here lilo |
| 07:18.08 | lilo | mog_home: I've been here for pretty nearly forever |
| 07:18.15 | lilo | mog_home: I'm just usually pretty quiet |
| 07:18.20 | swm_ | Patch? For NAT? to do what? |
| 07:18.27 | Primer | I have a sipura behind NAT and the NAT box gladly NATs the RTP for it without any special consideration |
| 07:18.29 | mog_home | that must be hectic lilo |
| 07:18.33 | mog_home | how do you get things done |
| 07:18.42 | swm_ | I' |
| 07:18.51 | swm_ | I'm on 11 channels and that's enough for me. |
| 07:19.00 | lilo | mog_home: well, mostly I just log and then go look for problems if someone complains a channel is being harassed |
| 07:19.08 | lilo | mog_home: and it lets me keep up with news and so on |
| 07:19.22 | Primer | I must confess, I'm on more channels on this network than the other 4 networks I'm on |
| 07:19.26 | lilo | mog_home: I usually check in everywhere sooner or later |
| 07:19.34 | Primer | 7 |
| 07:19.35 | mog_home | ahh |
| 07:19.35 | lilo | Primer: well, I hope we're useful to you :) |
| 07:19.41 | mog_home | ive never noticed you in here |
| 07:19.44 | swm_ | lilo: Any warez channels on freenode |
| 07:19.50 | lilo | swm_: not if we can help it 8) |
| 07:19.59 | Primer | lilo: only one is an "off-topic" channel |
| 07:20.00 | lilo | swm_: they do tend to leave a big footprint |
| 07:20.06 | swm_ | lilo: good... Would hate to find some pirated software and turn someone in :) |
| 07:20.15 | lilo | swm_: you should feel free to |
| 07:20.30 | swm_ | lilo: I try.. |
| 07:20.51 | lilo | swm_: if you see something like that, point us to it....warez does not help us do what we're here to do |
| 07:21.10 | Primer | I distribute tons of software on freeload |
| 07:21.18 | swm_ | lilo: Tracked someone from New Jersey who was attemping to upload over 37 Gig's of MP3's to my server... lol... my T-1's were pretty used up ... |
| 07:21.22 | lilo | warez, hax0r, proprietary media trading, are all pretty aggressive cultures |
| 07:21.51 | lilo | they're off-topic here both because they're unlawful and because they tend to screw up the network culture |
| 07:22.26 | lilo | fwiw, I haven't run a proprietary OS at home in ages....it really just hasn't seemed necessary |
| 07:22.30 | Primer | lilo: so what's your stance on proprietary software channels? |
| 07:22.34 | Primer | like, #oracle? |
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| 07:22.52 | lilo | Primer: http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#channelnaming |
| 07:23.02 | kuku5 | whats the key for # in the dialplan? |
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| 07:23.10 | lilo | Primer: the new channel naming conventions we're moving over to would reserve that channel for Oracle the company |
| 07:23.24 | wasim | kuku5: it sends $5 to digium |
| 07:23.27 | swm_ | kuku5: what exactly are you trying to do? |
| 07:23.47 | Qwell | he speaks |
| 07:24.02 | mog_home | what sends 5 bucks to digium |
| 07:24.06 | mog_home | i could use some |
| 07:24.07 | Qwell | mog_home: pressing # |
| 07:24.07 | lilo | Primer: ##oracle could be an example of a name you would use for an unofficial channel....but as far as whether they should be here, the purpose of the network is to support "peer-directed project communities", such as the free software community |
| 07:24.10 | Primer | lilo: so that means many channels will be getting +j soon? |
| 07:24.17 | swm_ | mog_home: the # key on the phone |
| 07:24.21 | mog_home | im gonna make myself a millionare |
| 07:24.28 | Qwell | mog_home: or, make Mark one :P |
| 07:24.54 | mog_home | ^_^ |
| 07:24.55 | Primer | another channel I'm in is filled with game developers, but they actually mostly work on proprietary games |
| 07:25.01 | mog_home | if digium sold out like skype |
| 07:25.03 | lilo | Primer: if a corporation wants to be here to maintain contacts in the communities we serve, then they definitely belong here....if they just want to use the network to do support for proprietary projects, they're going to tend to get leftover resources at best, over time |
| 07:25.07 | Qwell | mog_home: yeah... |
| 07:25.09 | mog_home | id be the only kid in college with his own jet |
| 07:25.12 | Primer | some are OSS, but most are proprietary |
| 07:25.13 | swm_ | Why not hack asterisk and change the code to look for 16 digit numbers (credit cards) and transmit them to a ip address in the code :) collect keypad sequences :) |
| 07:25.24 | Qwell | swm_: go for it |
| 07:25.38 | mog_home | umm swm_ thats retarded |
| 07:25.47 | swm_ | Not my style, I'd rather use my social security number and get a credit card legally.. |
| 07:25.49 | lilo | Primer: this is probably not the ideal network for proprietary games development....otoh, nobody is rushing to push everybody out, if they have connections with the FOSS community |
| 07:25.50 | Qwell | yeah...you'd need the expi...nevermind |
| 07:26.06 | kuku5 | swm_: extensions.conf - setup so after pressing # it will go to the directory() |
| 07:26.18 | Qwell | kuku5: # is usually bad to put in the dialplan |
| 07:26.26 | Qwell | kuku5: some phones interpret # as "send the call now" |
| 07:26.32 | Qwell | So, the # is never actually sent |
| 07:26.36 | mog_home | some atas.. |
| 07:26.41 | kuku5 | but from the outside? |
| 07:26.43 | mog_home | ive never seen a sip phone do that though |
| 07:26.59 | kuku5 | mog_home: grandstream |
| 07:27.02 | lilo | Primer: we list what's on topic and encourage people to use the network for on-topic uses, and for communities involved with on-topic uses |
| 07:27.03 | kuku5 | mog_home: cisco's |
| 07:27.04 | swm_ | Qwell & kuku5: Yup, I use "9"' for the directory... :) |
| 07:27.13 | mog_home | lilo do you have another job or are you freenode 24/7? |
| 07:27.14 | kuku5 | ok |
| 07:27.19 | mog_home | ciscos do that? |
| 07:27.21 | mog_home | for real? |
| 07:27.24 | kuku5 | mog_home: yeh |
| 07:27.24 | mog_home | thats really lame |
| 07:27.28 | Qwell | lilo: So, how long has freenode been around? Nickserv says you've been there for like 12 years |
| 07:27.34 | Qwell | s/there/here/ |
| 07:27.35 | Primer | lilo: well, the channel in question does deal with some OSS... |
| 07:27.41 | lilo | mog_home: I'm the head of staff of Peer-Directed Projects Center, the not-for-profit org that runs freenode |
| 07:27.45 | swm_ | Yeah the Cisco 12SP+ does that I know from a call center i managed |
| 07:27.48 | lilo | mog_home: at this point this is most of what I do |
| 07:27.56 | Primer | so hopefully it won't have to find a new home just because there is a "proprietary" side to it |
| 07:28.06 | kuku5 | ~!~!~!~ Important Question: Is there a way to turn off call forwarding from the console of a 7960 ? |
| 07:28.09 | jbot | okay, kuku5 |
| 07:28.17 | Qwell | kuku5: sccp? |
| 07:28.20 | kuku5 | sip |
| 07:28.35 | swm_ | kuku5: cant you just disable it in the sip.conf file |
| 07:28.42 | lilo | Qwell: freenode itself started in 2002, when PDPC started; before that it was Open Projects Net since about 1998 (an informal project), before that linpeople.org since about 1995, before that a series of small GNU/Linux support channels on other networks |
| 07:28.52 | lilo | Qwell: so it's been about 12 years total |
| 07:28.53 | kuku5 | no - I want to turn it after the user turned it on using hte phone |
| 07:28.54 | Qwell | oh |
| 07:29.05 | Qwell | kuku5: no clue then |
| 07:29.13 | Qwell | I could tell you how if it was sccp :p |
| 07:29.13 | swm_ | kuku5: AGI Script? |
| 07:29.18 | Qwell | just a dbput |
| 07:29.20 | kuku5 | no |
| 07:29.21 | kuku5 | telnet |
| 07:29.31 | Primer | heh, I just realized I'm the owner of a channel that's dedicated 100% to proprietary software |
| 07:29.45 | lilo | Primer: you're not from around here, are you :) |
| 07:29.48 | swm_ | Primer: Elaborate on your special channel |
| 07:29.55 | Primer | swm_: #nvidia |
| 07:30.01 | lilo | hmmm, I guess you are |
| 07:30.05 | Primer | lilo: don't you remember me? |
| 07:30.09 | Qwell | jbot: forget !~!~!~ Important Question: |
| 07:30.09 | jbot | Qwell: i didn't have anything called '!~!~!~ important question:' to forget |
| 07:30.14 | lilo | Primer: I was thrown off because you're not id'd to nickserv |
| 07:30.15 | swm_ | Ohh nVidia .. Woo Hoo |
| 07:30.18 | h3x0r | 12 years of #natter ........... |
| 07:30.34 | lilo | h3x0r: now that's a channel name I haven't heard in a while :) |
| 07:30.38 | h3x0r | haha |
| 07:30.41 | Primer | I was one of the founders of the lilofree IRC network...I've since permanently parted that network |
| 07:30.45 | swm_ | ~lobotomy lilo |
| 07:30.46 | jbot | ACTION pulls out a rusty saw to perform a lobotomy on lilo |
| 07:30.49 | h3x0r | *** topic for #natter: lilo's boot camp |
| 07:31.05 | *** join/#asterisk adelas (n=booger@rrcs-24-199-21-141.west.biz.rr.com) |
| 07:31.09 | lilo | Primer: cool....a victory for courtesy in the world :) |
| 07:31.10 | h3x0r | for all those free support people that tell others to rm -rf / |
| 07:31.11 | lilo | Primer: thanks :) |
| 07:31.19 | Primer | lilo: I blame all the server restarts for the nickserv situation |
| 07:31.53 | h3x0r | haha |
| 07:31.56 | h3x0r | they all know this :P |
| 07:31.58 | Qwell | grub-install /dev/hda |
| 07:32.00 | lilo | Primer: yeah, there are races and so on |
| 07:32.04 | swm_ | Whats up with all the read errors on freenode? UP and down UP and down.. like a rollercoaster... Woo Hoo.. |
| 07:32.14 | lilo | h3x0r: for 12 years people have been using that excuse, and other people's systems keep getting erased |
| 07:32.15 | h3x0r | swm_: or crack whore... |
| 07:32.28 | lilo | swm_: you missed the announcement of the server restarts? |
| 07:32.39 | swm_ | YEAH I MISSED IT |
| 07:32.40 | swm_ | ext2.fsck /dev/hda1 ? |
| 07:32.43 | lilo | swm_: http://freenode.net/news.shtml |
| 07:32.45 | Primer | there, I'm /nickserv'd |
| 07:32.48 | h3x0r | I dont think that many linux newbies use asterisk |
| 07:32.50 | h3x0r | maybe so |
| 07:32.52 | lilo | Primer: yuppers |
| 07:33.03 | lilo | h3x0r: hmph, maybe you shouldn't make so many assumptions about people ;) |
| 07:33.04 | Primer | bah, reverse dns isn't working! |
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| 07:33.11 | Primer | my 1337 hostmask! |
| 07:33.16 | h3x0r | i didnt see any ping timeouts yet! :) |
| 07:33.16 | lilo | Primer: "I hate IRC, reasons why" |
| 07:33.30 | lilo | h3x0r: we have a 4-hour ping out |
| 07:33.35 | h3x0r | yipes |
| 07:33.41 | Primer | I couldn't live without IRC |
| 07:33.45 | lilo | actually, I think it's now an indefinite pingout for most people |
| 07:33.46 | Primer | I've been on IRC since....1995 |
| 07:33.52 | Primer | I'm definitely addicted |
| 07:33.55 | lilo | Primer: yeah, mid or late 1993 for me |
| 07:33.58 | Primer | my first IRC nick was "deviant" |
| 07:33.59 | h3x0r | why did you do that |
| 07:34.01 | Primer | hehe |
| 07:34.03 | lilo | Primer: I just try to make it, well, useful |
| 07:34.04 | swm_ | I lived just fine w/o IRC for 6 years until everyone started talking about asterisk on it.. then I had to jump on and say ... Wazzup |
| 07:34.05 | grandy | hey guys, i'm having trouble finding a link to ael+postgres documentation... any suggestions?> |
| 07:34.08 | lilo | Primer: very contrary to tradition |
| 07:34.19 | Primer | lilo: I find that it's the best source for first hand information |
| 07:34.34 | lilo | Primer: and clonebots :) |
| 07:34.49 | swm_ | wtf is a clonebot? |
| 07:34.50 | Primer | like, I learned about a cisco router exploit from IRC long before it was ever announced to the world |
| 07:34.59 | Primer | I have no clonebots |
| 07:35.12 | lilo | swm_: you don't want to know 8) |
| 07:35.21 | swm_ | lilo: yeah i do |
| 07:35.27 | lilo | swm_: a waste of time :) |
| 07:35.30 | Primer | shell users on my box might be using the same IP as I |
| 07:35.39 | Primer | as well as IRC proxy users |
| 07:35.40 | lilo | swm_: some people send large numbers of bots to IRC channels to disrupt whatever is going on there |
| 07:35.43 | swm_ | lilo: time is never a waste and the stupid question is the one you never asked. |
| 07:35.46 | lilo | swm_: they're all synchronized |
| 07:36.08 | lilo | swm_: so you get pages and pages of joins and parts or unpleasant messages or nick changes or whatever |
| 07:36.13 | swm_ | lilo: Oh I could do something like that but I'm not into beeing a digital terrorist. heh |
| 07:36.26 | lilo | swm_: typically the people who run that are very young, or just never outgrew being very young 8) |
| 07:36.51 | swm_ | Yeah I remember doing stuff like that when I was like 16 yrs old ... heh |
| 07:36.52 | Primer | 4 people with sh.nu in their hostmask! |
| 07:36.57 | Primer | one day I'll take over the world |
| 07:36.59 | lilo | swm_: not to say that everybody who is young runs clonebots, but it's not a very mature pastime |
| 07:37.26 | Primer | bah, bot's using the last IP...must fix... |
| 07:37.43 | swm_ | Well 12 years ago yeah. it was kinda fun. but it's old now... forgot about all that annoying stuff ya can do heh |
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| 07:38.46 | swm_ | 10 servers 150 users per server joining and leaving a room constantly every second. yeah could really disrupt some irc communications :) |
| 07:38.53 | lilo | yeah, just because you can cause people problems doesn't make it worthwhile |
| 07:38.56 | lilo | swm_: yes |
| 07:39.42 | swm_ | Bush will probally go after Cyber Terrorisim next :) You'll get your fix :) |
| 07:40.24 | grandy | hello... anyone able to point me to some links where i can read about calling database functions from ael or dialplan? |
| 07:40.43 | swm_ | grandy: Asterisk Wiki Pages? |
| 07:40.56 | swm_ | ~wiki |
| 07:41.11 | swm_ | ~wiki mysql |
| 07:41.17 | grandy | swm_: searching google, etc., can't find it... i'll check mysqlk |
| 07:42.03 | swm_ | Oh I hate mixing mysql with asterisk... I like plain old configuration files ... |
| 07:42.21 | swm_ | Database servers slow everything down.. I swear. |
| 07:42.39 | kuku5 | This blows |
| 07:42.42 | grandy | i'm trying to figure out if i can do my own user authentication scheme by calling db functions from w/in a dialplan or ael script... i was using agi but some guys i was talking to here earlier recommended ael or straight dialplan... but i can't find a generic database connection function for either ael or dialplan yet |
| 07:42.57 | kuku5 | So there is no way I can find out if someone is forwardin their phone to a different #? |
| 07:43.32 | kuku5 | ( on a 7960 |
| 07:43.35 | drumkilla | grandy: as a matter of fact, an ODBC dialplan function just got merged into the trunk today |
| 07:44.02 | swm_ | kuku5: CDR Records? |
| 07:44.18 | swm_ | kuku5: Flash operator panel |
| 07:44.22 | drumkilla | grandy: see issue #5055 on bugs.digium.com |
| 07:44.43 | swm_ | drumkilla: how did you come up with your IRC name? |
| 07:44.47 | grandy | drumkilla: ahh... cool |
| 07:44.54 | drumkilla | swm_: I play the drums :) |
| 07:45.00 | drumkilla | I have been using the name since middle school ... |
| 07:45.15 | swm_ | Were you a drummer in a band or something :) |
| 07:45.16 | drumkilla | and never felt like changing it |
| 07:45.31 | drumkilla | swm_: yeah, school band, and I have had my own groups off and on |
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| 07:45.47 | swm_ | Sweet... I prefer the guitar :) |
| 07:45.50 | kuku5 | swm: NO - on the phone itself |
| 07:46.10 | grandy | drumkilla: do you know if there is odbc or pgsql connectivity from ael ? |
| 07:46.23 | swm_ | kuku5 leave the phone alone and stay with the software... your digging yourself a hole that is really really deap ... tis it's cisco .. they suck :) |
| 07:46.24 | drumkilla | grandy: you can use that function I pointed you to through AEL |
| 07:46.38 | drumkilla | there is also a MySQL application |
| 07:46.41 | drumkilla | in asterisk-addons |
| 07:46.44 | swm_ | damn i cant spell ... DEEP |
| 07:46.50 | grandy | drumkilla: so i need to get the latest cvs version of asterisk in order to use that? |
| 07:46.57 | mog_home | drumkilla! |
| 07:47.09 | drumkilla | grandy: yes. However, the MySQL app is included in the 1.2 version of asterisk-addons |
| 07:47.14 | kuku5 | drumkilla: can I turn off call forwarding on a 7960 remotly ? ( sip ) |
| 07:47.15 | drumkilla | hey mog_home !!!!!!!!!! |
| 07:47.16 | swm_ | no... to get asterisk addons you need to get the asterisk-addons section |
| 07:47.16 | grandy | hey mog_home, drumkilla was just helpin me find some db stuff... |
| 07:47.24 | drumkilla | kuku5: I have no idea, but i doubt it. |
| 07:47.28 | mog_home | yeah grandy he is a cool guy |
| 07:47.41 | drumkilla | ah, you guys know each other or something? |
| 07:47.49 | grandy | drumkilla: i see... i am using pgsql for this project... so odbc will be better for me... |
| 07:47.56 | mog_home | i dont know anyone |
| 07:47.58 | grandy | fantastic... |
| 07:48.02 | mog_home | except digium folk |
| 07:48.04 | drumkilla | grandy: gotcha. then yeah, I would recommend going with that |
| 07:48.06 | mog_home | and conference folk |
| 07:48.33 | grandy | drumkilla: ok... is the trunk relatively stable? I mean, are people using it in production environments? |
| 07:48.36 | swm_ | I like digium software but not the fact you pay $10 for a G.729 license ... and I need 100 licenses :) |
| 07:48.52 | mog_home | dont blame us |
| 07:48.52 | h3x0r | swm_: well its $9.50 from voiceage |
| 07:48.54 | drumkilla | grandy: as a matter of fact ......... |
| 07:48.56 | mog_home | blame software patents |
| 07:49.01 | h3x0r | or you can pay them $12,000 up front and then $1.20 per license |
| 07:49.04 | drumkilla | grandy: there is a PGSQL application as well |
| 07:49.06 | drumkilla | i forgot about it |
| 07:49.10 | drumkilla | it's in 1.2 as well |
| 07:49.15 | swm_ | Eck |
| 07:49.21 | drumkilla | in the regular asterisk distribution, not -addons |
| 07:49.27 | drumkilla | show application PGSQL |
| 07:49.37 | grandy | drumkilla: oh cool... ok... so should i just check out the latest cvs then? or would i want to just get 1.2 |
| 07:49.42 | swm_ | Isin't G.729 free in a non-commercial enviroment ? |
| 07:49.45 | h3x0r | by the way that 12 grand dosent buy you any licenses |
| 07:49.57 | h3x0r | swm_: its only "free" in a educational environment |
| 07:50.02 | h3x0r | not development, not non profit, etc. |
| 07:50.06 | h3x0r | just educational |
| 07:50.08 | drumkilla | grandy: we recommend 1.2 for production environments |
| 07:50.17 | mog_home | no |
| 07:50.20 | swm_ | ok so how do you get the license if your using it for educational purposes? |
| 07:50.21 | mog_home | its not swm |
| 07:50.24 | grandy | drumkilla: ok... cool... i'll do that |
| 07:50.25 | drumkilla | grandy: i still think the ODBC function is what you should go with, though |
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| 07:50.27 | Damin | Hey guys.. |
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| 07:50.35 | Damin | Drumkilla! What is up dude? |
| 07:50.36 | mog_home | you cant get g729 free |
| 07:50.38 | mog_home | period |
| 07:50.38 | drumkilla | grandy: however, you'd have to manually put it in 1.2 ... |
| 07:50.39 | mog_home | however |
| 07:50.42 | mog_home | there are people |
| 07:50.43 | drumkilla | Hey Damin !!! |
| 07:50.45 | h3x0r | yeah from digiunm |
| 07:50.46 | mog_home | who gave them enough money |
| 07:50.51 | grandy | drumkilla: the odbc or the pgsql or both? |
| 07:50.58 | swm_ | ~lobotomy Damin |
| 07:50.59 | jbot | ACTION pulls out a rusty saw to perform a lobotomy on Damin |
| 07:50.59 | mog_home | that they are more leniant on how they give it out |
| 07:51.01 | drumkilla | grandy: the odbc function |
| 07:51.01 | Damin | mog_home: How goes the wacky new alternative to RedHat? :) |
| 07:51.16 | mog_home | like if you pay them a million up front you dont need to pay them per usage |
| 07:51.16 | h3x0r | mog_home: that isn't true, on their web site they talk about license issues for educational use |
| 07:51.19 | mog_home | damin its well |
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| 07:51.26 | Damin | mog_home: What was it called again? |
| 07:51.30 | grandy | drumkilla: ok... well i'd probably prefer the pgsql one unless (other than portability reasons) you'd recommend the odbc one... |
| 07:51.35 | mog_home | poundkey |
| 07:51.47 | swm_ | i forgot how to install my G.729 license key .. anyone done this recently? |
| 07:51.54 | mog_home | ./register |
| 07:51.55 | Damin | Which was based on the Linux distribution... (The one with no community yet built for it..) |
| 07:51.56 | drumkilla | grandy: well, the pgsql is marked deprecated, so it might be gone in the next version of Asterisk (6 months from now) |
| 07:51.57 | mog_home | thats about it |
| 07:52.01 | h3x0r | http://www.voiceage.com/openinit_g729.php |
| 07:52.06 | mog_home | lol yeah Damin |
| 07:52.27 | h3x0r | ok, its research and prototype development |
| 07:52.29 | h3x0r | even better |
| 07:52.43 | mog_home | voiceage might have the rights to do so |
| 07:52.46 | mog_home | but we dont |
| 07:52.49 | drumkilla | grandy: there is another thing you can do, too :) |
| 07:52.52 | h3x0r | right so |
| 07:52.56 | swm_ | Register? Where is that... |
| 07:53.04 | mog_home | you get from digium's website |
| 07:53.05 | Damin | I just totally hosed my screen session.. |
| 07:53.14 | drumkilla | grandy: look at the Realtime application |
| 07:53.16 | h3x0r | theres nothing illegal about using a 3rd party codec for research and educational purposes is there |
| 07:53.20 | *** part/#asterisk Damin (n=damin@207.166.192.10) |
| 07:53.26 | mog_home | there is if its not theres |
| 07:53.29 | drumkilla | grandy: that should work, and is included in 1.2 |
| 07:53.32 | grandy | drumkilla: hmm.m... realtime application... lemme check that out... |
| 07:53.33 | mog_home | you have the right to go download that implementation |
| 07:53.36 | mog_home | not ours or the intel one |
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| 07:54.09 | h3x0r | oh |
| 07:54.10 | Damin | mog_home: I just talked to the guys from NOTACON... |
| 07:54.16 | h3x0r | i see. |
| 07:54.19 | mog_home | ahh how goes that |
| 07:54.24 | Damin | mog_home: I'm meeting them in DC at Shmoo Con... |
| 07:54.26 | mog_home | yeah h3x0r its not pretty |
| 07:54.33 | Damin | mog_home: InJanuary.. |
| 07:54.36 | swm_ | how do I get digium to re-send my license key or where can I view it? |
| 07:54.38 | _Vile | hi mog |
| 07:54.40 | mog_home | its just one of those things you play with their toys you play their rules |
| 07:54.46 | Damin | mog_home: We did a site survey from our building to where they have the Notacon Hotel.. |
| 07:54.46 | mog_home | i can do it for you swm_ |
| 07:54.54 | mog_home | cool |
| 07:54.55 | mog_home | nice? |
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| 07:55.14 | mog_home | hi _Vile |
| 07:55.22 | Damin | mog_home: And with the new wireless infrastructre we deployed, we're going to be beaming in 45 meg RF linkto the Holiday Inn! ;) |
| 07:55.31 | mog_home | mmm bandwith |
| 07:55.41 | brimstone | i <3 download |
| 07:55.56 | Damin | mog_home: Tell me about it.. we're planning on doing live streaming broadcasts in real time right from the presentations.. |
| 07:56.03 | mog_home | really |
| 07:56.10 | mog_home | you think bw will last? |
| 07:56.22 | Damin | mog_home: Well.. ;) They are.. I'm just providing the data-center and the bandwidth.. |
| 07:56.48 | mog_home | ahh |
| 07:56.52 | Damin | mog_home: Sure.. It's rate adaptive... |
| 07:57.01 | mog_home | nice |
| 07:57.24 | Damin | mog_home: If it's all upload traffice, it'll pull 44 megs for the uload and leave 1 meg for the download.. |
| 07:57.39 | Damin | mog_home: if all the sudden traffic shifts, it'll compensate.. |
| 07:58.10 | Damin | mog_home: They still are interested in having Digium attend / sponsor in some fashion... |
| 07:58.59 | grandy | drumkilla: still here? |
| 07:59.03 | mog_home | when mark gets back from estonia |
| 07:59.03 | drumkilla | grandy: yeah |
| 07:59.07 | mog_home | ill be sure to ask him |
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| 07:59.38 | oej_ | Some people never go to bed in time ;-) |
| 07:59.44 | drumkilla | oej_: ;) |
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| 08:00.19 | grandy | drumkilla: so what i'm doing is checking my db when a caller calls in to see if the number is already registered... and i'd like to also implement an IVR sign up process... do you think realtime would make sense for that (it seems oriented around the standard asterisk config files) or one of the DB extensions? |
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| 08:00.29 | mog_home | never oej |
| 08:01.17 | drumkilla | grandy: yes, I think both Realtime and RealtimeUpdate would be useful for that |
| 08:01.51 | Damin | oej_: How are things on your side of the world? |
| 08:02.20 | drumkilla | grandy: and as far as a pgsql module for realtime goes, you can use the odbc one, or there is a pgsql specific module in the bug tracker right now |
| 08:02.27 | drumkilla | grandy: you could help test it out if you wanted to, heh |
| 08:02.28 | oej_ | Damin: All right. Working on the Xmas project :-() |
| 08:02.49 | grandy | drumkilla: ok... makes sense... id be happy to help test... looks like the only difference would be one line in the config file |
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| 08:03.30 | Damin | oej_: Same here.. Getting ready to hit the sack and pack the kids off to NY for two weeks.. I'll get a chance to sit back and actually do something productive for a change.. :) |
| 08:03.50 | grandy | drumkilla: now i just need to figure out how to set it up... i haven't found any documentation yet that gets me to understand how i'd map realtime to the specific db queries i'd need...but i'll keep looking |
| 08:03.58 | drumkilla | grandy: http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=5262 |
| 08:04.09 | Damin | oej_: of course, I have to be IN NY for X-mas weekend, but at least I'll have DSL.. and four wheelers... and beer... |
| 08:04.26 | oej_ | Beer is important at Xmas ;-) |
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| 08:05.09 | Damin | oej_: My brother got me a Guinnes sampler... it has a wide collection of Guinness offerings to choose from.... :) I'm looking forward to it.. |
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| 08:06.05 | oej_ | Scary. How do you know this before Xmas? Did his wife cheat and told you? |
| 08:06.12 | grandy | drumkilla: thanks... let me attempt to get it installed... |
| 08:06.48 | drumkilla | grandy: you are welcome. I'm going to head on to bed ... it's extremely late for me |
| 08:06.50 | Damin | oej_: No.. we had an early X-mas party w/ the parents last weekend since we won't be in town.. Got my presents a week early.. |
| 08:07.18 | grandy | drumkilla: yeah me too... thanks much for the help... |
| 08:07.26 | oej_ | Damin: Aha, you're cleared from my "suspects to report to Santa"-list |
| 08:07.28 | oej_ | :-) |
| 08:07.30 | Damin | oej_: One of the coolest things I've gotten so far is a pair of tickets to see the Cleveland Symphony Orchestra doing a collection of tunes from the Lord of the Rings trilogy! :) |
| 08:07.41 | oej_ | That is cool! |
| 08:08.05 | Damin | oej_: Can't wait for that.. I've been on a bit of a concert kick since seeing Heart at VON in San Jose.. |
| 08:08.45 | Damin | oej_: This year, I've seen George Thorougood, Gwen Stefani, Trans Siberian Orchestra and several others.. :) |
| 08:09.01 | Damin | oej_: And took the wife to see Bon Jovi... |
| 08:09.19 | oej_ | I need to buy some concert tickets NOW! |
| 08:09.26 | oej_ | For concerts in Stockholm, though |
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| 08:20.50 | tasat | anyone here use asterlink? |
| 08:21.00 | swm_ | I DO |
| 08:21.03 | swm_ | I love Asterlink |
| 08:21.15 | mog_home | swm_ i often wonder if you are bkw_ in desguise |
| 08:21.16 | tasat | Connect or Extreme |
| 08:21.19 | tasat | which is better? |
| 08:21.27 | tasat | looks like Extreme is same + more |
| 08:21.33 | swm_ | Extreme has extreme features |
| 08:21.34 | tasat | but maybe I'm missing something... |
| 08:21.39 | swm_ | I just have connect and I like it |
| 08:21.44 | tasat | same price, right? |
| 08:21.52 | swm_ | I think extreme is more .. :) |
| 08:22.01 | tasat | looks the same... |
| 08:22.04 | swm_ | I was reading that somewhere. I've been with asterlink for 5 or 6 months it's wondeful |
| 08:22.10 | tasat | maybe the website is wrong? |
| 08:22.19 | tasat | https://cogent.arishost.com/asterlink.com_join/ispjoin.cgi |
| 08:22.36 | swm_ | Connect is all you need. You get a 866 Number and long distance for .02 cents a minute. Takes me 3 months to run out |
| 08:22.51 | tasat | but for the same price... |
| 08:23.05 | trixter | clec.biz claims to offer flat rate $35/lata tollfrees |
| 08:23.08 | swm_ | Contact Customer Support I am not a salesman and dont with to become one. |
| 08:23.25 | swm_ | $35/month .. I pay $20 every 3 months |
| 08:23.25 | tasat | ok :)... |
| 08:23.30 | trixter | now if you get 50 or more latas it goes down to $10/lata - there are 209 latas so for low volume that isnt a deal |
| 08:23.51 | trixter | and 15 @ $35 == 50 @ $10 |
| 08:24.19 | tasat | do they round to the 6sec or 1 min? |
| 08:25.38 | swm_ | WHO? |
| 08:26.35 | trixter | cant be talking about clec.biz they are flat rate as in it doesnt matter if its 1 minute or 100 million |
| 08:26.52 | trixter | so that lkeaves who you were talking about |
| 08:27.33 | swm_ | Like I said earlier tho, I am not a sales representative for Asterlink so I cannot quote actual figures but I am most happy with them |
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| 08:28.22 | tasat | swm_: no problem, just trying to get an idea... |
| 08:28.40 | grandy | you still there mog_home |
| 08:28.41 | grandy | ? |
| 08:28.47 | mog_home | always |
| 08:29.17 | swm_ | I've tried 5 or 6 VoIP providers and I will say on the record that I am more than satisfied with Asterlink |
| 08:29.25 | grandy | excellent... hey i have been trying to figure out how to proceed with the db stuff, and i wanted to confirm which db extension you were thinking would work best w/in a dialplan for my authentication scheme... |
| 08:29.41 | mog_home | okies |
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| 08:30.09 | grandy | mog_home: the mysql extension looks like it allows flexible querying, but i'm using pgsql... |
| 08:30.13 | grandy | thoughts? |
| 08:30.36 | mover | hi |
| 08:30.47 | mog_home | i havent used the pgsql one personally other than at a glance |
| 08:30.52 | mog_home | i have used the mysql one |
| 08:30.56 | mog_home | and it is very configurable |
| 08:31.04 | mog_home | id be suprised if the postgres one was different |
| 08:31.22 | grandy | mog_home: do you know what the pgsql one is called? is it the one that drumkilla was referring to? I think the one he was talking about is only for realtime |
| 08:31.48 | mog_home | there is an app_postgres one sec ill find it |
| 08:31.55 | grandy | ahh cool |
| 08:31.59 | mover | i need to ring a incoming call from pstn for 60 seconds ? in tink about dial(local/console,60,g) is this possible? |
| 08:32.47 | mog_home | hmm i found odbcexec |
| 08:32.50 | mog_home | that sounds cool |
| 08:32.54 | mog_home | but back to search |
| 08:32.56 | grandy | mog_home: yeah just found that oo |
| 08:32.57 | grandy | too |
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| 08:33.54 | grandy | mog_home: odbcexec might just work for me as long as it's not deprecated.... |
| 08:34.16 | mog_home | well it doesnt look like its a part of asterisk in general |
| 08:34.20 | mog_home | just ind. maintained |
| 08:34.35 | grandy | mog_home: hmm... do you know anything about the realtime thing drumkilla was talking about? |
| 08:34.51 | mog_home | not sure |
| 08:35.08 | Primer | bah, wtf, seems that the latest chan_sccp breaks NAT |
| 08:35.42 | Primer | it's not smart enough to send the RTP traffic back to the port it arrived on, but sends the traffic back to the port it negociated |
| 08:35.45 | grandy | mog_home: it looks like it lets you map pretty much any file from /etc/asterisk into a db, but i don't see anything that indicates that it'd let me do free form querying of other db tables... not to say it doesn't, just that i haven't seen any evidence yet that it does... |
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| 08:39.35 | oej_ | grandy: You have to realize that realtime is not a SQL abstraction layer, it's a storage abstraction layer that will cover LDAP and other non-sql storage forms |
| 08:40.06 | grandy | oej_: i see... i was confused about what it was... i think i need a sql abstraction layer... |
| 08:40.27 | oej_ | grandy: You can always use a scripting language and do anything you like |
| 08:40.28 | mog_home | so grandy i dont think there is an app_postgres maintained in our code base |
| 08:40.56 | grandy | oej_: i was using agi... but i had received some recommendations to try to use the dialplan for it... |
| 08:41.04 | oej_ | There might be third party apps out there, but they are in general poor in syntax and functionality |
| 08:41.07 | mog_home | or the odbc one russell talkded of |
| 08:41.31 | grandy | mog_home: ok i see |
| 08:41.32 | mog_home | i could roll one out |
| 08:41.40 | oej_ | And you have to be very careful on how you access databases from Asterisk in order not to lock things up for a short or longer while |
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| 08:41.58 | oej_ | ODBC works in some cases, not with the FreeTDS stuff though |
| 08:42.34 | grandy | oej_: what would you recommend? agi or dialplan/ael? what all i'm doing is checking the caller id and seeing if it's already registered and doing some branching, and i want to also implement an ivr signup |
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| 08:43.21 | oej_ | using realtime SIp peers? |
| 08:43.23 | grandy | oej_: oops... i meant to say "all i'm doing"... :) |
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| 08:44.00 | grandy | oej_: nope.. just inbound traffic via iax voip connections, possibly sip in the future... |
| 08:45.16 | oej_ | So realtime IAX peers |
| 08:45.20 | grandy | oej_: i don't have the need to dynamically update my dialplan... in the current scenario extensions.conf has about 3 steps on inbound calls, the first being answer and the third calling the agi script, which handles routing, recording, etc... |
| 08:45.24 | grandy | oej_: ok, yeah |
| 08:47.07 | grandy | oej_: but i want the code to be able to fail gracefully and provide good error reporting... and of course for it to be as simple as possible.. |
| 08:47.17 | oej_ | I don't know how much work has been done with realtime peers in IAX, I am badly updated there. For SIP, we do save registrations in the realtime database so you can access it with realtime apps in the dial plan |
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| 08:48.27 | grandy | oej_: ok... i see so by having a realtime dialplan you can do any kind of routing simply by asking realtime about a particular peer? |
| 08:52.44 | tasat | swm_: sorry to beat this into the ground... does asterlink do inbound calls to? I see they have tollfree but you still need a phone number. |
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| 08:53.50 | grandy | mog_home: so if you were me would you be thinking about just using agi at this point? |
| 08:54.38 | mog_home | if you need postgress and like you say dont want to have 3rd party apps yeah |
| 08:54.51 | mog_home | id send email to that guy tell him to get it in asterisk-addons.... |
| 08:55.03 | grandy | mog_home: oh good idea... |
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| 08:55.35 | grandy | mog_home: i had written some agi scripts in php, but php is ugly when it comes to catching exceptions, and i want the scripts to fail gracefully... |
| 08:55.35 | mog_home | i mean i agree its a legitamte reason |
| 08:55.42 | grandy | mog_home: true, i will do that... |
| 08:55.49 | mog_home | its why i dont use res_zeroconf |
| 08:55.58 | mog_home | if benjk would just contribute it.... |
| 08:56.01 | SwK | damn mog_home what are you doing awake? |
| 08:56.08 | mog_home | res_xmpp |
| 08:56.13 | mog_home | she is a harsh mistress |
| 08:56.48 | mog_home | you ken? |
| 08:57.02 | SwK | insomnia |
| 08:57.26 | Qwell | bed time |
| 08:57.49 | SwK | been there slept about an hour woke up and couldnt go back to sleep |
| 08:57.52 | mog_home | gnite qwell |
| 08:58.11 | benjk | its *L*GPL mog |
| 08:58.25 | benjk | L as in Lesser |
| 08:58.26 | mog_home | if you feel that way |
| 08:58.28 | mog_home | submit it |
| 08:58.45 | benjk | for Lesser restrictive than what Digium grant their users |
| 08:58.58 | mog_home | ? |
| 09:00.10 | benjk | LGPL == less restrictive than GPL |
| 09:00.26 | mog_home | also can you even have it be lgpl? |
| 09:00.36 | mog_home | i mean you link against gpl libraries |
| 09:00.36 | mog_home | the asterisk ones |
| 09:00.37 | benjk | you can link to it from proprietary code |
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| 09:00.50 | mog_home | but can you even license it that way? |
| 09:01.15 | benjk | quite a few other modules are LGPL |
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| 09:01.28 | oej_ | res_zeroconf has to be GPL, otherwise it's a license violation |
| 09:01.38 | mog_home | thats what i thought oej |
| 09:01.40 | benjk | B U L L S H I T |
| 09:01.40 | oej_ | You can not release an asterisk module with another license |
| 09:01.48 | mog_home | its why we dont have anyotehr keys |
| 09:01.50 | mog_home | in asterisk |
| 09:01.53 | mog_home | other than the GPL key |
| 09:01.56 | oej_ | benjk: I guess you have to ask Digium about that really |
| 09:01.59 | benjk | you can release it under BSD terms if you like |
| 09:02.08 | benjk | or you could release it into the public domain |
| 09:02.10 | swm_ | benjk: - * = E A T S H I T = * - |
| 09:02.11 | oej_ | Anything that links to the Asterisk API has to be GPL |
| 09:02.33 | benjk | the only thing you cannot do is ADD restrictions |
| 09:02.36 | oej_ | You can not release something that uses the Asterisk API as BSD, sorry. I would like to |
| 09:02.38 | swm_ | oej_: Technically G.729 is not GPL |
| 09:02.42 | benjk | you can always have LESS restrictions |
| 09:02.54 | mog_home | that has an exception swm brought by digium |
| 09:02.56 | oej_ | There are exceptions granted by digium |
| 09:03.06 | oej_ | benjk: Then you don't understand the stickyness of GPL |
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| 09:03.15 | grandy | mog_home: looks like 5055 will actually work inside the dialplan... i'm gonna try that |
| 09:03.19 | smurf | oej_: doesn't matter |
| 09:03.23 | drray | the GPL has not been tested in court either |
| 09:03.24 | benjk | no you don't understand |
| 09:03.28 | mog_home | 5055? |
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| 09:03.32 | benjk | go and talk to Eben Moglen |
| 09:03.33 | oej_ | There is a general exception for stuff that connects to AMI or AGI |
| 09:03.37 | grandy | http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=5055 |
| 09:03.57 | mog_home | ooh thats hot |
| 09:03.59 | smurf | drray: ... unless you define "court" as something that happens to not include the US. |
| 09:04.43 | tzafrir_laptop | anybody here knows of a netcat equivalent for writing to unix-domain sockets? so I can pipe commands to the asterisk socket? |
| 09:05.03 | tzafrir_laptop | (asterisk.ctl) |
| 09:05.59 | scolsuckz | im 4 bsd |
| 09:06.18 | oej_ | benjk: By releasing under a less restrictive license, you loose the stickyness that the licensee wanted |
| 09:06.34 | benjk | oej, go and talk to Eben Moglen |
| 09:06.48 | swm_ | BSD: Barely Sutible Drone ? |
| 09:06.52 | smurf | oej_: and that is a problem for whom exactly? |
| 09:06.56 | swm_ | ~wiki bsd |
| 09:07.12 | swm_ | ~bsd |
| 09:07.13 | jbot | from memory, bsd is a UNIX operating system. An asterisk port is currently being worked on. |
| 09:07.34 | swm_ | I LOVE SLACKWARE |
| 09:07.34 | grandy | anybody know the svn checkout command for the latest trunk? trying to find it on digium's site |
| 09:07.37 | mog_home | oej_ you are right |
| 09:07.39 | SwK | bsd > linux :P |
| 09:07.41 | mog_home | it doenst really matter |
| 09:07.52 | tasat | swm_: does asterlink do inbound calls via IAX? |
| 09:07.59 | oej_ | grandy: It's all on www.asterisk.org |
| 09:08.03 | Qwell | grandy: svn co http://svn.digium.com/svn/asterisk/trunk asterisk |
| 09:08.06 | mog_home | yeah brian does it? |
| 09:08.12 | swm_ | tasat: YES |
| 09:08.31 | SwK | tasat: check out asterlinks website its got all the good info there |
| 09:08.33 | swm_ | tasat: SIP IS WAY MORE RELIABLE FOR HIGH VOLUMES OF CALLS ... IAX Bottlenecks it'self |
| 09:08.39 | grandy | thanks Qwell |
| 09:08.47 | mog_home | bah wsm_ |
| 09:09.04 | swm_ | mog_home WHAT? |
| 09:09.19 | SwK | i have to agree with swm on the iax thing mog |
| 09:09.41 | mog_home | i think you guys are coocoo for coco puffs |
| 09:09.45 | SwK | heh |
| 09:10.11 | tasat | swm_: thanks... I see the toll-free but didn't see inbound via IAX or SIP, just via a another phone |
| 09:10.25 | mog_home | i mean an asterisk box is not ever gonna route as many calls a ser |
| 09:10.28 | swm_ | I am MORE THAN RIGHT ON THE IAX subject of BOTTLENECKS. I have TESTED and TESTED the theory out and SIP HAS BETTER AUDIO QUALITY AND IAX WILL DROP PACKETS |
| 09:10.31 | smurf | swm_: could you please ease off on the caps lock key? thanks |
| 09:10.33 | mog_home | but iax can route a shit load of calls |
| 09:10.34 | SwK | tasat they dont do DIDs like local numbers |
| 09:10.35 | mog_home | brian hush |
| 09:11.22 | smurf | swm_: did you open a bug on that? I'm not saying you're wrong, but that's not supposed to happen if you have the bandwidth. |
| 09:11.30 | tasat | SwK: but they do toll-free to an asterisk box over ip, right |
| 09:11.36 | SwK | yeah |
| 09:12.53 | grandy | swm_: are you sure it's not just that sip providers tend to have better network facilities? |
| 09:13.47 | trixter | Hmm.. if you use iax trunking it will put multiple calls together into the same packet right? could the problem be there as opposed to the network dropping the packets |
| 09:13.50 | swm_ | IAX has always been like this... I have tested it weekly for the past 4 months and see no improvements over a sip call. SIP is still the standard. I have 5 T-1's and it still has issues. It's inside the server that causes the problem. I have the fastest SCSI drives, Dual 2.6 GHZ XEON servers and 2 GB of RAM in each box and it does not change a thing. Still has issues after a certian volume of calls. :) |
| 09:13.55 | SwK | grandy if that were so simply switching from chan_iax to chan_sip in the same deployment wouldnt solve the problems I've seen |
| 09:14.26 | trixter | where for timing or whatever reason it cant sync up all the calls and either waits for data to be available to be added or it doesnt send anything that iteration |
| 09:14.39 | nextime | swm_ : if you really think that ser is than better compared with asterisk, why you are there and you are using * and not you are simply in #ser and using ser? |
| 09:14.46 | grandy | SwK: interesting... why do you think it is? |
| 09:15.21 | trixter | nextime: ser is better at a sip proxy role than asterisk, it does way more registrations on the same hardware |
| 09:15.24 | SwK | grandy: working on asterisk every day in a large number of different deployments |
| 09:15.36 | trixter | hell an ipaq (pda) can do several hundred with ser |
| 09:15.53 | trixter | but asterisk does more different things, ser for example does not provide a media gateway or an application server |
| 09:16.09 | trixter | to suggest to someone they be all or nothing is silly |
| 09:16.10 | nextime | trixter : agree. I use ser AND *, and not only those two, but i'm not here to say "asterisk is bad, ser is good" |
| 09:16.23 | swm_ | Oh please someone talk... |
| 09:16.49 | trixter | they are suited to different tasks |
| 09:16.52 | SwK | trying to compare ser and asterisk is like trying to compare apache and photoshop |
| 09:17.06 | nextime | SwK: agreed. |
| 09:17.10 | Primer | I don't suppose someone would care to read my long winded problem with chan_sccp and a 7920 and comment? http://forum.chan-sccp.org/viewtopic.php?p=144#144 |
| 09:17.14 | tasat | According to asterlinl: We have recently become aware of a problem in the chan_iax2 implementation |
| 09:17.15 | tasat | of IAX2 that may affect customers. This problem leads to degrading audio |
| 09:17.15 | tasat | quality. We therefore recommend that customers use SIP. SIP instructions |
| 09:17.15 | tasat | follow the IAX2 instructions below. As well we recommend that customers |
| 09:17.15 | tasat | use the RPID patch available at http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=2471 so |
| 09:17.15 | tasat | that Caller ID will work with our servers for outgoing calls. |
| 09:18.00 | trixter | I cant imagine how many clients I could process on my ipaq (400MHz arm) but I do know that on that same model people have gotten several hundred registrations with ser (course registrations alone are not that useful in the grand scheme of things) |
| 09:18.00 | swm_ | Did they ever get IAX Trunking fixed? |
| 09:18.04 | SwK | swm_ good question i avoid it heh |
| 09:18.25 | swm_ | It was great until they broke it |
| 09:18.32 | SwK | yeah |
| 09:18.54 | swm_ | That was 6 months ago. After I had problems I gave up on IAX ... It just became more unstable from that point. |
| 09:19.21 | SwK | i was fighting jitter problems 1/2 the day w/ iax |
| 09:20.29 | swm_ | Audio quality is one of my pet peeves ... if it does not work correctly .. Echo/choppy/dropped audio I wont use it. IAX at high volumes causes this. BKW can back me up on this as well as Anthm ... who are both associated with Asterlink :) *Grin* |
| 09:20.49 | mog_home | yeah they are the naysayers on iax |
| 09:20.52 | SwK | switched to chan_sip and poof no more problems heh... (the suck of it was it was 1.0.9 pri * iax * t1 FXOKS channelbank pots |
| 09:20.58 | mog_home | started up your whole little movement |
| 09:21.34 | SwK | mog_home you know how much work i do with asterisk everyday... I wish iax worked better then what it does |
| 09:21.35 | oej_ | The IAX channel has some serious problems when it comes to larger systems, problems we do need to solve |
| 09:22.05 | mog_home | swk do you know how much i deal with asterisk every day? |
| 09:22.10 | swm_ | mog_home: Stop trying to defend technology that is not developed to a point that is cannot be ran in a stable enviroment :) IAX is good for up to 15 calls to be safe and then it becomes a audio/quality issue. |
| 09:22.10 | mog_home | any inkling? |
| 09:22.25 | mog_home | 15 calls?!?! |
| 09:22.33 | swm_ | mog: beeing digium and working with them i'm sure thats all YOU DO |
| 09:22.34 | SwK | probably as much if not more then me ;P |
| 09:22.34 | mog_home | you are f-in crazy |
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| 09:22.50 | swm_ | CRAZY? Of course... |
| 09:23.13 | mog_home | digium easily has been pushing 100 iax calls simul |
| 09:23.45 | oej_ | There are some serious issues with threading in chan_iax2 that Kevin and Mark is working on |
| 09:23.46 | swm_ | mog_home: HOW MANY ASTERISK BOXES? |
| 09:23.59 | swm_ | yep threading is the issue |
| 09:24.19 | mog_home | not to say thats impressive |
| 09:24.19 | mog_home | i have seen much higher |
| 09:24.19 | mog_home | just thats the only one i see day to day |
| 09:24.26 | mog_home | 1 |
| 09:25.01 | mog_home | and why the CAPS swm_ are you still in hs? |
| 09:25.32 | wasim | swm_: i use IAX regularly for 100 calls |
| 09:25.41 | swm_ | Actually it's voice recog technology... Must of been pissed off while not paying attention. If i'm pissed it goes to caps heh |
| 09:25.46 | trixter | but do you use it for 1000 concurrent? |
| 09:26.45 | swm_ | SIP handles more calls than IAX and maintains the quality. That is my whole basis for discussion. |
| 09:26.53 | mog_home | what kind of box can you get 1000 sip calls with the media going through it? |
| 09:27.09 | Qwell | mog_home: 8 way dual core opteron? |
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| 09:27.13 | swm_ | mog_home: I think a Cray 2 could handle that |
| 09:27.19 | gevious | Hi All |
| 09:27.37 | mog_home | hi gevious |
| 09:27.38 | swm_ | Qwell: That would work just fine |
| 09:27.43 | mog_home | i think it could be done qwell |
| 09:27.47 | trixter | if a system cant push like 30Mbps through it then there is problems with the underlying code |
| 09:27.51 | mog_home | but 1000 calls is a stretch in either technology |
| 09:27.57 | gevious | Has anyone had any experience with gnudialer? |
| 09:29.00 | trixter | gevious: for day 3, no |
| 09:29.28 | swm_ | mog: Can we just agree to disagree on the topic. You stick with your IAX and maybe in 5 years you will catch up with me ... |
| 09:29.46 | gevious | I have it compiled but keep getting terminate called after throwing an instance of 'xFileOpenError' when I execute |
| 09:29.49 | mog_home | lol swm_ |
| 09:29.51 | swm_ | Probally will be IAX12 by then but... Hey to each thier own |
| 09:29.55 | benjk | oej et al: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#GPLCompatibleLicenses |
| 09:30.03 | mog_home | is a developer not a user |
| 09:30.06 | mog_home | so i dont care |
| 09:30.07 | benjk | states explicityly that LGPL is GPL compatible |
| 09:30.12 | mog_home | ill just use what is better for me |
| 09:30.21 | benjk | this is from the horse's mouth |
| 09:31.06 | trixter | benjk: you cited gnu.org so its the other end of the horse! :P |
| 09:31.34 | Primer | nat problems really piss me off |
| 09:31.41 | benjk | trixter: are you suggesting that LGPL is not GPL compatible? |
| 09:31.54 | trixter | no I am suggesting that its not from the horses mouth |
| 09:32.04 | trixter | reread what I said |
| 09:32.05 | trixter | :) |
| 09:32.05 | Primer | is it too much to ask that the NAT box use the same source port when it can? why would it arbitrarily re-map the source port when it NATs? |
| 09:32.47 | gevious | Anyone Gnudialer?? |
| 09:33.07 | swm_ | Anyone know any good ideas on howto get the whisky into the little hole in a flask w/o a funnel? :) |
| 09:33.14 | benjk | the point is that if the creators and purveyors of the GPL and LGPL say that LGPL is GPL compatible, then I am inclined to believe that more than whatever opinion to the contrary circulates in this channel |
| 09:33.32 | gevious | Or know where I can get some sort of list besides gnudialer.org? |
| 09:33.40 | swm_ | gevious: Obviously GNUdialer is not a high priority subject or no one is aware it exists because I sure dont and I dont see a reply |
| 09:33.48 | trixter | primer: it would take aa little more processing to check to see if that port is available and if its not then pick one out of its pool.. its easier for it to just asisgn from the pool directly |
| 09:33.55 | gevious | swm_, make a paper funnel? |
| 09:34.01 | oej_ | benjk: I think you are reading that page in reverse. As an GPL licensed software, we can embed software with all these compatible licenses. However, you can not change the license to something lesser if it's already covered by GPL. But that's my take. |
| 09:34.04 | gevious | or is that defeating the point |
| 09:34.15 | gevious | Hmmm, I see that |
| 09:34.17 | trixter | benjk: the point of what I was saying is that gnu is the horses ass - ie the other end of the horse from its mouth |
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| 09:34.34 | trixter | it had nothing to do with the content of what you said it was a joke about the FSF largely |
| 09:34.46 | swm_ | gevious: yeah basically defeating the point. I was trying to capture the ideas and thoughts of geeks around the world and compile their knowlege into a frensy of worthless meaning.. |
| 09:34.51 | Primer | trixter: then it's a total fluke that my sipura's RTP traffic goes out using the same source port on the NAT and my 7920 doesn't? |
| 09:34.58 | benjk | trixter: thanks for pointing that out |
| 09:35.07 | gevious | lol |
| 09:35.47 | trixter | primer: no some may do that, you wanted to know why it would do that I provided one possible reason |
| 09:36.07 | oej_ | benjk: Quoting that web page: "This means you can combine a module which was released under that license with a GPL-covered module to make one larger program." It does not say that "You are allowed to re-license a GPL licensed code base to any of these licenses. |
| 09:36.28 | mog_home | exactly onle copyright holder can do that |
| 09:36.33 | mog_home | err only |
| 09:36.50 | swm_ | Cisco ATA186 uses the same port thus the SIPURA uses two different ports. I hate that |
| 09:36.59 | trixter | if you could relicense gpl licensed code to lgpl I wouldnt have any complaints about the gpl |
| 09:37.03 | benjk | I am combining a GPL covered module (Asterisk) with an LGPL covered module |
| 09:37.05 | swm_ | 5060 and 5061 |
| 09:37.07 | grandy | hey uh can anyone help me with a sample line from the dialplan that would call one of the queries listed here: http://bugs.digium.com/file_download.php?file_id=7250&type=bug |
| 09:37.14 | oej_ | mog_home: With Asterisk, we have disclaimed the right as copyright holders to digium to re-license the code. |
| 09:37.25 | mog_home | well not exactly oej_ |
| 09:37.27 | iDunno | LGPL is GPL compatable. |
| 09:37.36 | mog_home | you give digium a license to the code indefinetly |
| 09:37.39 | mog_home | or |
| 09:37.45 | mog_home | you make your code public domain |
| 09:37.54 | mog_home | and then we relisence it gpl |
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| 09:38.01 | trixter | the lgpl makes more sense in the grand scheme of things.. instead of using freedom as the cause to place a bunch of restrictions on someone and saying those limitations are there solely becuase its a freedom issue it lets authors have more control over their own stuff |
| 09:38.09 | mog_home | yes iDunno |
| 09:38.12 | oej_ | mog_home: Well, that's another discussion, but yes, there are two disclaimers |
| 09:38.24 | mog_home | but you cant link to something gpl and then say oh its lgpl now |
| 09:38.32 | mog_home | unles you are the copyright holder |
| 09:38.36 | iDunno | trixter: but if that's what you're after, the apache licence or the BSD licences are more your style. |
| 09:38.38 | oej_ | trixter: Yes, the lgpl makes more sense for libraries |
| 09:38.47 | trixter | iDunno: exactly |
| 09:38.55 | benjk | Asterisk is GPL, the plug-in is LGPL |
| 09:39.19 | oej_ | Is the plug-in using any of the asterisk APIs and load as a module into asterisk? |
| 09:39.21 | mog_home | but ben someone can go link against your library that links against gpl components of asterisk |
| 09:39.24 | mog_home | thus its misleading |
| 09:39.27 | trixter | there should be no problem using a lgpl plugin with in asterisk so long as its stated what the licenses are on that and stuff.. |
| 09:39.30 | mog_home | and can make someone illegal |
| 09:39.34 | benjk | nobody says Asterisk changes its licensing by using a plug in that is licensed under a different but GPL compatible license |
| 09:39.36 | iDunno | the GPL is good in that some wanker isn't going to rip off your code later and release something commercially off the back of it without having to distribute the source. |
| 09:39.50 | iDunno | the GPL doesn't stop you from releasing the software commercially though ;) |
| 09:39.51 | mog_home | for example the load application is gpl |
| 09:39.56 | trixter | to say that in order to get it into asterisk either digium needs 100% right ot use indefinately or it has to be public domain then digium will take ownership and license it out is ... yeah |
| 09:39.59 | mog_home | that you have to use to load a module |
| 09:40.02 | iDunno | it just stipulates that source should be available :) |
| 09:40.03 | mog_home | you cant make that lgpl |
| 09:40.08 | oej_ | Everything that uses the API and loads as a module in asterisk has to be GPL-licensed because of the stickyness of GPL. |
| 09:40.13 | trixter | asterisk uses libraries on my system that arent full gpl |
| 09:40.28 | benjk | nope |
| 09:40.31 | mog_home | as longs as you dont distribute your fine trixter |
| 09:40.38 | benjk | it has to be licensed under a GPL compatible license |
| 09:40.40 | SwK | asterisk has code in the tree that not GPL |
| 09:40.49 | benjk | write to Eben Moglen and ask him |
| 09:40.50 | trixter | cant distro binaries of asterisk? |
| 09:40.51 | mog_home | that was granted exceptions by digium |
| 09:40.53 | trixter | man that would suck |
| 09:40.53 | SwK | its got BSD code in there |
| 09:40.58 | oej_ | Yes, we have BSD code |
| 09:41.02 | trixter | better get the lawyers after redhat, debian, A@H, etc |
| 09:41.06 | iDunno | BSD licence is GPL compatible ;) |
| 09:41.10 | oej_ | But that code is something that we link into. It does not link into Asterisk |
| 09:41.14 | mog_home | but you cant go make asterisk bsd |
| 09:41.15 | oej_ | It's a big difference! |
| 09:41.17 | trixter | becuase once compiled and linked asterisk links to a few libraries, ldd will give you a full list |
| 09:41.18 | mog_home | thats what he is doing |
| 09:41.25 | iDunno | no, you can't. |
| 09:41.30 | mog_home | its a one way street |
| 09:41.36 | SwK | iDunno depends on which BSD license :P |
| 09:41.40 | mog_home | you cant make the gpl libraries of asterisk "more open" |
| 09:41.42 | oej_ | benjk: No, not under a compatible license, under GPL |
| 09:41.50 | iDunno | SwK: I'm assuming a sane 3 clause BSD licence ;) |
| 09:42.01 | trixter | is that what he is trying to do? make asterisk more open by releasing a module for asterisk that is lgpl? |
| 09:42.09 | trixter | I must be missing something in there |
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| 09:42.19 | iDunno | SwK: OK - so that may be a bit of an assumption, but hey ;) |
| 09:42.19 | benjk | write to Eben Moglen, oej |
| 09:42.20 | mog_home | you can have a module that uses lgpl libraries |
| 09:42.21 | mog_home | like mine |
| 09:42.25 | trixter | becuase releasing extra code lgpl that happens to be a plugin doesnt make the core program more open |
| 09:42.26 | SwK | heh |
| 09:42.27 | mog_home | but you cant have my module be lgpl |
| 09:42.27 | Qwell | iDunno: if it doesn't have the advertising clause |
| 09:42.49 | iDunno | Qwell: isn't that the difference between the 3 and 4 clause licence ;) |
| 09:42.50 | oej_ | benjk: You have to make sure that you get agreement from Digium, the copyright holders, before you do anything. |
| 09:42.51 | SwK | iDunno: true... that advertising clause is the deal killer |
| 09:42.55 | Qwell | iDunno: That's VERY important, and you should include that statement every time you mention it |
| 09:42.57 | trixter | digium doesnt even follow the gpl inwhat they release yet they will turn down features of this? |
| 09:42.58 | trixter | sheesh |
| 09:43.06 | benjk | the GPL doesn't require me to do that oej |
| 09:43.12 | mog_home | he hasnt submitted it trixter |
| 09:43.24 | mog_home | gpl doesnt |
| 09:43.25 | trixter | he doesnt have to for digium to ignore section 1 of the gpl |
| 09:43.42 | trixter | the gpl advertising clause specifically |
| 09:43.52 | oej_ | benjk: Well, it's your own risk to take. It's completely up to you. I thought you wanted to make sure you don't get problems in the future. |
| 09:43.56 | mog_home | digium could obviously give him the right to distribute it lgpl but he cant give himself said right |
| 09:44.17 | mog_home | or else for example |
| 09:44.19 | benjk | the GPL gives that right |
| 09:44.24 | mog_home | i could make app_expose_asterisk |
| 09:44.26 | benjk | ask Eben Moglen |
| 09:44.30 | mog_home | and expose all the functions of asterisk |
| 09:44.35 | mog_home | and make said library lgpl |
| 09:44.37 | oej_ | Where does the GPL give right to re-license the product? |
| 09:44.40 | benjk | Digium doesn't have any say in this |
| 09:44.41 | mog_home | then you can close source asterisk |
| 09:44.42 | benjk | not any more |
| 09:44.49 | benjk | Eben Moglen is the authority |
| 09:44.50 | trixter | benjk: I dunno given your choices I would take the submit it to public domain so digium can release it gpl |
| 09:44.57 | trixter | that seems the most logical way to spread code |
| 09:45.01 | mog_home | or just distribute it |
| 09:45.04 | grandy | hey real quick can one of you guys help me understand a simple dialplan issue that is escaping me? |
| 09:45.06 | mog_home | err submit it |
| 09:45.10 | mog_home | sure grandy |
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| 09:45.21 | grandy | ok... these are teh instructions: http://bugs.digium.com/file_download.php?file_id=7250&type=bug |
| 09:45.43 | benjk | we abide by the rules of the GPL license, what else do you want |
| 09:45.51 | mog_home | you clearly arent |
| 09:45.54 | grandy | there is an example in there, but i am not quite sure what it means... that's basically the default contents of func_odbc.conf |
| 09:46.02 | benjk | if Digium have a problem with that, why did they release their stuff under GPL |
| 09:46.04 | mog_home | okay what dont you get ? |
| 09:46.09 | mog_home | its not that ben |
| 09:46.15 | mog_home | just answer my question then |
| 09:46.32 | grandy | mog_home: well, it looks like the things in the file are contexts, correct? |
| 09:46.33 | benjk | iits not the only LGPL module btw |
| 09:46.42 | Qwell | yeah |
| 09:46.47 | Qwell | erm |
| 09:46.57 | benjk | there are others |
| 09:47.02 | mog_home | what is to stop sprint from writing app_expose_asterisk that exposes all functions of asterisk and then link it to closed source product they have just side stepped gpl, so what is the f-in point of gpl ? |
| 09:47.31 | mog_home | yeah there are alot of people jay walking too benjk doesnt make it legal |
| 09:47.36 | grandy | mog_home: that is the clutch issue with the gpl... there is much disagreement on that point... unfortunately... |
| 09:47.48 | mog_home | i think its pretty clear |
| 09:48.02 | mog_home | you cant make something less gpl by linking to it |
| 09:48.17 | mog_home | so you cant write code that uses gpl functions and say that code is not at least gpl |
| 09:48.20 | Qwell | Somebody is trying to change the license of asterisk? |
| 09:48.22 | Qwell | what now? |
| 09:48.27 | mog_home | no Qwell |
| 09:48.33 | mog_home | benjk says his code is lgpl |
| 09:48.38 | mog_home | i say thats not legal |
| 09:48.49 | mog_home | because his code links to gpl functions of asterisk |
| 09:49.07 | mog_home | i think that violates the spirit of gpl if not the law |
| 09:49.20 | grandy | mog_home: well, the gpl code is locked at version x, and so the linker can't link subsequent versions of the owner changes the license... i've heard that the delineation is "does the code compile alone"... |
| 09:49.21 | benjk | its a dynamic plug in |
| 09:49.23 | SwK | theres always big debates on linking against vs shared memory vs this that and the other |
| 09:49.24 | Qwell | but you play one on TV, don't you? |
| 09:49.25 | grandy | but that's silly... |
| 09:49.40 | mog_home | exactly and it obviously doesnt grandy |
| 09:49.44 | grandy | think about how much gpl'ed code google uses and just because it's a service it has no obligation to release anything back to the community |
| 09:50.04 | mog_home | gpl only applies to distribution grandy |
| 09:50.16 | mog_home | i can make app_take_over_the_world |
| 09:50.19 | mog_home | and use it all day long |
| 09:50.31 | grandy | mog_home: i know... i like that aspect of the gpl... |
| 09:50.33 | mog_home | i just cant distribute it without source |
| 09:50.53 | mog_home | im mixed |
| 09:51.02 | mog_home | because i feel people like google abuse it |
| 09:51.16 | grandy | mog_home: yeah, i am to kind of, but part of the success of the gpl has been its looseness... |
| 09:51.24 | SwK | how can google abuse the GPL they dont distribute software |
| 09:51.31 | mog_home | yup |
| 09:51.38 | mog_home | im not saying they abuse the law |
| 09:52.02 | grandy | SwK: they can't, but one of the nice things about open source is when people feed ideas and code back into the community and the codebase effectively becomes a marketplace for cooperation... |
| 09:52.03 | mog_home | i just feel that many people would appreciate the patches they have made to different things |
| 09:52.06 | mog_home | or google fs |
| 09:52.08 | Qwell | "Combining two modules means connecting them together so that they form a single larger program. If either part is covered by the GPL, the whole combination must also be released under the GPL--if you can't, or won't, do that, you may not combine them." |
| 09:52.11 | Qwell | http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/gpl-faq.html#MereAggregation |
| 09:52.15 | Qwell | and on that note |
| 09:52.25 | grandy | Qwell: that is the quote... |
| 09:52.30 | mog_home | qwell for the win |
| 09:52.40 | Qwell | always consult the FAQ |
| 09:52.47 | SwK | grandy: you dont have to lecture me on that I dont like the GPL personally I think it is to restrictive... I'm down with the 3 clause BSD.... |
| 09:52.51 | mog_home | and does a res_zeroconf.so fall under that hmmm? ding ding ding |
| 09:52.53 | Qwell | If the modules are included in the same executable file, they are definitely combined in one program. If modules are designed to run linked together in a shared address space, that almost surely means combining them into one program. |
| 09:53.13 | mog_home | bsd is great |
| 09:53.18 | mog_home | if you dont want to make any money |
| 09:53.23 | mog_home | and have other people make money off you |
| 09:53.24 | mog_home | ^_^ |
| 09:53.36 | grandy | SwK: excellent... yeah, i think the one weakness of the gpl is that it's so verbose and so broad-sounding that there is often disagreement about what it means/entails... |
| 09:53.41 | SwK | yea I realize that means commercial companies can close source and rebrand my software, but I dont really care.. most of those companies are smart enuff to realize they dont want to carry the full support load and send you patches |
| 09:54.00 | mog_home | i agree swk i think several things aka things for good of people should be bsd |
| 09:54.00 | SwK | mog_home not true |
| 09:54.10 | mog_home | like who is gonna make money off of my tcpip stack |
| 09:54.19 | mog_home | or my graphics card driver |
| 09:54.20 | grandy | SwK: yeah, and as projects get more ambitious, few companies would really have much incentive to do that anyway... |
| 09:54.31 | SwK | exactly |
| 09:54.40 | mog_home | i dont know grandy quite a many company has ripped off other oss stuff |
| 09:55.01 | Qwell | anyhow, off to bed...and this time, I mean it. :D |
| 09:55.06 | mog_home | heh |
| 09:55.08 | grandy | mog_home: true, but i'm talkin about legal re-closing of the source as in bsd |
| 09:55.13 | mog_home | gnite qwell |
| 09:55.15 | swm_ | Qwell: You get your ass in bed |
| 09:55.17 | grandy | nite Qwell |
| 09:55.26 | mog_home | did swm_ and benjk give up / leave? |
| 09:55.31 | Qwell | damn skype...keeping me up all night |
| 09:55.32 | swm_ | mog: Dont forget to kiss him goodnight :) |
| 09:55.37 | SwK | mog_home yeah but most of them are little stupid ass shithole companies that are stupid enuff to try and rip off GPL software and pass it off as their own without even bothering to change the symbol tables heh |
| 09:55.57 | mog_home | so true |
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| 09:56.12 | mog_home | i liked that one that ripped off pearpc |
| 09:56.19 | SwK | yeah |
| 09:56.23 | mog_home | because no offense to pearpc but it was no way business ready |
| 09:56.25 | Qwell | and several others before/after |
| 09:56.27 | SwK | that company has tried to rip off a few more things |
| 09:56.38 | benjk | if this is was aimed at myself and Simon, I resent that vehemently |
| 09:56.38 | grandy | SwK: true... those are exceptions and they would happen under any open source license. |
| 09:56.46 | SwK | exactly |
| 09:56.58 | grandy | benjk: i don't think it was |
| 09:57.10 | SwK | hell I used to have a varient of OpenBSD that was stripped flipped rebranded and commercially licensed heh |
| 09:57.14 | mog_home | what benjk ? |
| 09:57.17 | benjk | we did rip off nobody, we worked very hard on this and gave our work away in very fair terms |
| 09:57.34 | mog_home | no not that , did you see qwells comment? |
| 09:57.41 | mog_home | about gpl lgpl linkage ? |
| 09:58.02 | grandy | btw mog_home, did you see that config file? |
| 09:58.10 | mog_home | yes |
| 09:58.11 | benjk | as I told you, write to Eben Moglen and ask him |
| 09:58.15 | mog_home | what was question about it |
| 09:58.19 | mog_home | did you see their faq |
| 09:58.26 | grandy | mog_home: oh yeah, how do i actually use it in extensions.conf ... ? |
| 09:58.26 | mog_home | where they clearly tell you you are wrong |
| 09:58.32 | mog_home | why would i bother him? |
| 09:58.40 | mog_home | oh |
| 09:58.43 | benjk | because he's the authority |
| 09:58.44 | trixter | their faq doesnt always convey things correctly |
| 09:58.46 | mog_home | its easy grandy |
| 09:58.54 | trixter | they misquote the underlying laws and in some cases terems in the contract |
| 09:59.20 | SwK | you know the funny thing about Moglen... he actually reads and replys to email |
| 09:59.24 | grandy | mog_home: i'm sure it is, but it's 5am... and i don't really know dialplans very well... |
| 09:59.27 | mog_home | grandy |
| 09:59.33 | trixter | there is the difference bewteen what the FSF wants (ownership of all GPL code) and what their license states |
| 09:59.34 | benjk | yes he does |
| 09:59.41 | benjk | typically within less than 2 days |
| 09:59.57 | mog_home | well tell you what ill write him |
| 10:00.03 | SwK | benjk that blew my mind when I asked him a GPL question a while back |
| 10:00.04 | mog_home | and tell you what i get back |
| 10:00.07 | grandy | trixter: that is a very true point |
| 10:00.09 | mog_home | and if he says im right |
| 10:00.13 | mog_home | will you disclaime it |
| 10:00.15 | mog_home | and if im wrong |
| 10:00.22 | mog_home | ill do something for you |
| 10:00.29 | benjk | I will not disclaim it |
| 10:00.39 | benjk | we will rewrite it to run outside of Asterisk |
| 10:00.44 | mog_home | ugh |
| 10:00.48 | mog_home | some people..... |
| 10:01.00 | mog_home | *_* |
| 10:01.02 | trixter | well if assigning to digium is the answer why doesnt digium assign asterisk to the FSF? |
| 10:01.04 | trixter | :) |
| 10:01.16 | mog_home | well because digium has asterisk-be |
| 10:01.20 | benjk | because I don't agree with Digium's policy to get exceptions from themselves without granting exceptions in kind |
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| 10:01.30 | benjk | for themselves |
| 10:01.45 | benjk | where I come from every contract is a two way street |
| 10:01.52 | grandy | mog_home: uhm... any hints on that dialplan thing? |
| 10:01.52 | trixter | ahh so its ok for digium to gte others to contribute code free of charge just so they can sell it |
| 10:02.00 | benjk | you grant me an exception and in return I grant you an exception |
| 10:02.06 | trixter | was was that comment about how BSD is a good license if you want to be poor and have others make money off your work? |
| 10:02.10 | benjk | that's how things should be |
| 10:02.11 | mog_home | did you not get my privatemsg? |
| 10:02.15 | trixter | I do remember something about that a couple minutes ago |
| 10:02.17 | grandy | oh apparently not |
| 10:02.43 | mog_home | okay im spamming channel then ^_^ |
| 10:02.44 | mog_home | exten => 100,1,Set(something=${ODBC_SQL('SELECT COUNT(*) FROM cdr')}) |
| 10:03.00 | grandy | mog_home: i forgive you... :) thanks1 |
| 10:03.01 | grandy | ! |
| 10:03.12 | SwK | trixter some comment that everyone will get rich of your code and you wont if you BSD it |
| 10:03.22 | benjk | however, if Digium will sign over their ownership in Asterisk to the FSF, then I will convince Simon that we should sign over our module to the FSF, too |
| 10:03.41 | mog_home | heh sure |
| 10:03.47 | benjk | why not? |
| 10:03.49 | trixter | swk: ahh I thought that was how the gpl worked, you submit code to digium so they can sell it in ABE and you get nothing |
| 10:04.05 | benjk | what's wrong with signing over your code to somebody who will look after it for you? |
| 10:04.18 | mog_home | abe |
| 10:04.18 | benjk | that's what you suggest to me |
| 10:04.23 | trixter | they want people to assign to them not them to anyone else :P |
| 10:04.38 | grandy | mog_home: fantastic! thanks much! this will be much simpler than the agi stuff i was messin around with |
| 10:04.56 | mog_home | asterisk would be where bayonne is today without mark |
| 10:05.05 | mog_home | and mattf |
| 10:05.07 | mog_home | and kevin |
| 10:05.12 | mog_home | and countless others |
| 10:05.21 | mog_home | if you dont see digiums contribution to asterisk |
| 10:05.25 | mog_home | and its good stewardship |
| 10:05.28 | mog_home | you have head in your ass |
| 10:05.35 | mog_home | no offense |
| 10:06.01 | benjk | trixter: sure, but the point is that if mog asks me to sign over the code to Digium and he thinks we are somehow abusing community spirit then I why would there be anything wrong with me suggesting to them that they sign over their stuff to the FSF? |
| 10:06.08 | swm_ | MOG: Are you referring to the disk space you allow for the project to continue? |
| 10:06.23 | swm_ | MOG: Or the fee's for G.729? |
| 10:06.36 | trixter | benjk: because they cant make money off your code if 1. you dont submit it to them free of charge and 2. they assign it to someone else |
| 10:06.59 | trixter | its all about making money off other people - the claim about the BSD license appears to be with the gpl |
| 10:07.38 | mog_home | how about putting roofs over several coders heads |
| 10:07.50 | trixter | like benjk? |
| 10:07.55 | mog_home | or supporting several developers |
| 10:08.03 | swm_ | LOL I code and a put a roof over my head... Without anyone's help :) |
| 10:08.05 | trixter | or is this another 'its ok for us to get roofs but not the people that submit code' comment |
| 10:08.20 | mog_home | well some of us swm are poor college student |
| 10:08.20 | mog_home | s |
| 10:08.52 | mog_home | and digium has allowed me to get much more stuff done |
| 10:08.59 | swm_ | LOL not saying I am rich but I make enough to get by every month. I never went to college and I make 2x more than most people with a college degree |
| 10:09.07 | mog_home | where do you see sangoma, aculab or dialogic supporting oss community? |
| 10:09.07 | swm_ | furthermore I am a high school dropout |
| 10:09.29 | mog_home | oh they dont |
| 10:10.07 | trixter | doesnt sangnoma support a large gpl pbx application? |
| 10:10.12 | benjk | swm: then you have a fair chance to become wealthy and famous |
| 10:10.14 | trixter | doesnt odints as well? |
| 10:10.14 | benjk | ;_0 |
| 10:10.16 | benjk | :-) |
| 10:10.27 | SwK | some of those people have released their drivers as GPL havent they? |
| 10:10.42 | mog_home | some of us have gpl hardware |
| 10:10.43 | trixter | well I think sangnoma supports a large asterisk like pbx application that is gpl |
| 10:10.46 | trixter | but I could be wrong |
| 10:10.58 | mog_home | sangoma sends people to digium with their asterisk problems |
| 10:11.04 | SwK | mog_home you dont make the TOR-II's anymore ;P |
| 10:11.12 | mog_home | no but gpl design is out there |
| 10:11.15 | trixter | and supporting or not you say you want a roof over your head what about benjk? you suggested he release public domain so digium could sell his code.. what about his roof? |
| 10:11.19 | mog_home | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:11.39 | mog_home | digium does many things for the community at large as well |
| 10:11.47 | mog_home | and digium is always hiring ^_^ |
| 10:12.28 | mog_home | and how much code has benjk contributed to asterisk tree? |
| 10:12.31 | SwK | and if you dont wanna work for digium but are good with asterisk and need a job let me know (sorry mog :P ) |
| 10:12.34 | swm_ | I may have a fair chance but, What does college do for someone? Just another fee you'll pay off in 30 years. Jobs in Oregon do not require a Degree from college. Most places dont. If you can do the work, You can do it. What does a little paper from a college say? All it says is you sat and watched someone present and lecture you on specific topic's... Question is can you apply the knowlege in the real world... I've seen that fail 75% of the time. so 25% |
| 10:12.46 | mog_home | lol swk |
| 10:12.51 | mog_home | can i come work for asteria |
| 10:12.58 | SwK | mog_home no |
| 10:13.02 | mog_home | aww |
| 10:13.04 | mog_home | why not? |
| 10:13.14 | mog_home | ill come fix your iax problems |
| 10:13.15 | SwK | mog_home the same reason I cant come work at Digium |
| 10:13.32 | mog_home | heh im sure christian would let me come over |
| 10:13.33 | benjk | SwK: you're at Asteria? |
| 10:13.41 | SwK | yeah |
| 10:14.00 | benjk | can you ping somebody for me? |
| 10:14.06 | SwK | who |
| 10:14.15 | mog_home | and trixter digium has helped creat business such as asteria asterisklink etc to put roofs over peoples heads |
| 10:14.30 | swm_ | I can ping someone to death if you would like :) |
| 10:15.15 | swm_ | But that's just childish :) |
| 10:15.43 | *** join/#asterisk zoa (n=kkk@pirus.securax.be) |
| 10:16.12 | mog_home | ZOA! |
| 10:16.30 | zoa | looks to the right |
| 10:16.33 | zoa | no zoa there |
| 10:16.33 | zoa | :p |
| 10:16.34 | swm_ | 11010011 10110100 00101011 01001110 |
| 10:16.51 | mog_home | lol |
| 10:17.43 | swm_ | ok someone calculate the binary |
| 10:17.56 | swm_ | without using a program to translate it |
| 10:18.44 | benjk | its not like those companies who are doing Asterisk support/integration/consulting aren't doing honest work to earn an honest living |
| 10:19.00 | swm_ | 211 180 43 78 |
| 10:19.09 | trixter | ahh so as long as digium creates jobs for some its ok to get people to give their code without compenstation for others |
| 10:19.10 | trixter | I see |
| 10:19.20 | mog_home | no one is losing rights |
| 10:19.22 | mog_home | your code is gpl |
| 10:19.29 | mog_home | through and through |
| 10:19.38 | trixter | to even suggest that benjk release public domain so digium can release gpl is a bit sketchy ... |
| 10:19.45 | mog_home | i mean be is not as scary as some people would want to believe |
| 10:19.51 | trixter | you said that he should release it public domain so digium can release it |
| 10:19.54 | mog_home | he doesnt need to trixter |
| 10:19.55 | trixter | that is losing rights |
| 10:19.57 | swm_ | basically no-one w/ GPL has rights then. Once it's GPL you have no copyright to yourself? It is public domain? |
| 10:20.02 | mog_home | he can just give digium right to reliacne |
| 10:20.08 | mog_home | no |
| 10:20.25 | mog_home | you just give digium rights to do with perpetually you can change it all day long |
| 10:20.36 | trixter | swm: no mog suggested that a specific application be released public domain to digium its not that if you release gpl its public domain becuase that isnt the case |
| 10:20.53 | mog_home | there are 2 disclaimers |
| 10:21.06 | swm_ | trixter: ok throw me some variables here to work with |
| 10:21.13 | mog_home | one makes code public domain, the other just grants digium a licsense |
| 10:21.21 | trixter | swm: such as what specifically? |
| 10:22.23 | swm_ | All I am seeing here is Digium benefits and the public looses. Why not Digium grant funds for code to the public. If you code it, You get DigiCredits or something for it. :) |
| 10:22.39 | trixter | that would seem equitable |
| 10:22.58 | mog_home | heh swm_ not a bad idea |
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| 10:23.02 | benjk | swm: precisely my point |
| 10:23.03 | mog_home | i code for redbull myself |
| 10:23.06 | swm_ | I think it would be fair. If I coded something I would at least expect a T-Shirt :) |
| 10:23.29 | mog_home | i do find it funny though |
| 10:23.35 | mog_home | that the people who complain the most |
| 10:23.39 | mog_home | contribute the least |
| 10:23.45 | mog_home | and the people who dont car |
| 10:23.45 | mog_home | e |
| 10:23.51 | mog_home | contribute the most |
| 10:23.59 | trixter | ya know when I got swag from digium I actually expected a tshirt so that it would be advertising, instead I goit mouse pads, pens and screwdrivers, not that I am complaining nor has anyone that received those items so far, but I like tshirts and stuff :P although the tdm410 was nice |
| 10:24.03 | trixter | as a prize for contests |
| 10:24.25 | mog_home | yeah we give a way hw all time |
| 10:24.34 | mog_home | trick is being around mark at the party |
| 10:24.52 | trixter | its all in how you go about getting compensated. however that doesnt address the public domain comment nor the one that the BSD license lets somenoe sell your code and make money and the coder doesnt get anything ... which is what it seems when it comes to digium and the gpl |
| 10:25.16 | trixter | mog_home: acutally I didnt get any of this from mark directly, I contacted others at digium though, took a while but I got it :) |
| 10:25.24 | mog_home | yeah |
| 10:25.32 | trixter | got thevoipconnection.com to give 5 ATAs and 3 gxp2000s as prizes too |
| 10:25.39 | mog_home | nice |
| 10:25.44 | trixter | today no startch press contacted me (without solicitation) about how they can donate |
| 10:25.52 | mog_home | ahh |
| 10:25.55 | benjk | Sunrise maintains a TIT-FOR-TAT licensing policy |
| 10:25.57 | mog_home | i want to write a book for them |
| 10:25.58 | trixter | oreilly is donating, hell oreilly is giving me $9000 in etel tickets for a really good price |
| 10:26.02 | mog_home | i love no starch press |
| 10:26.06 | trixter | so the group can have a little bit of funds |
| 10:26.26 | swm_ | I do care for some aspects for asterisk and some aspects I dont. If it affects my position in VoIP technology I will raise a point if it does not apply to my functions within the uses of asterisk I still care but I try to keep my nose out of unfamilure territory. Tho I have used 90% of asterisk's applications and features ... I dont speak until I am sure I know what I am talking about :) ... They should really invoke some kind of DigiCredit system for c |
| 10:26.38 | trixter | got a did from didx.org (have yet to actually test it) got bandwidth and hosting from trxtel (my company) and doeshosting.com (friends company) for the sac AUG as well |
| 10:26.41 | benjk | however, res_zeroconf is a community project, not Sunrise, so this different yet |
| 10:26.46 | benjk | er still |
| 10:26.55 | SwK | speaking of OReilly anyone going to that OReilly VoIP conference next month? |
| 10:27.09 | benjk | yes |
| 10:27.09 | trixter | I am a speaker there |
| 10:27.10 | mog_home | doesnt think i won the pool though |
| 10:27.14 | trixter | I have tickets for etel for $200 each |
| 10:27.18 | trixter | if anyone wants to get in cheap |
| 10:27.18 | swm_ | SwK: SWM IS GOING ... |
| 10:27.18 | mog_home | really |
| 10:27.23 | trixter | thanks to oreilly for that one :) |
| 10:27.23 | SwK | i wanna go |
| 10:27.27 | mog_home | where is it again trixter |
| 10:27.34 | trixter | burlingame (san francisco) |
| 10:27.41 | trixter | http://conferences.oreilly.com/etel |
| 10:27.44 | SwK | Surj sent me tix |
| 10:27.52 | trixter | mark will be at etel |
| 10:27.54 | mog_home | i know |
| 10:27.57 | mog_home | we are going i think |
| 10:27.59 | mog_home | im just not |
| 10:28.10 | trixter | ahh I heard from someone at digium that most digium people wont be there |
| 10:28.16 | swm_ | Anyone in Oregon, Washington or California can be picked up via my plane too for a $25 fee :) |
| 10:28.20 | trixter | david indicated that it was really only mark |
| 10:28.22 | mog_home | yeah we only have 50 people |
| 10:28.32 | mog_home | so we cant go sending everyone everywhere |
| 10:28.34 | benjk | how much for picking me up in Tokyo? |
| 10:28.54 | benjk | :-) |
| 10:29.01 | SwK | benjk: maybe you can hitchhike |
| 10:29.06 | swm_ | I dont think I have a big enough tank of gas to make it over the pacific ocean unless I want to fly from alaska to russia and down :) |
| 10:29.15 | trixter | a friend is trying to swing hotel space at the mariott too, his mom has worked for mariott for like 25 years and he is gonna try to get her to give me and one other free rooms there in support of the sac AUG :D |
| 10:29.27 | mog_home | freaking awesome |
| 10:29.29 | trixter | swm: what type of plane? |
| 10:29.37 | benjk | yeah, I go to the marina in Yokohama and hitch a ride on a nice yacht |
| 10:29.45 | trixter | anyway etel tickets are like $1800 if anyone wants to get in for $200 lemme know |
| 10:29.49 | benjk | but I'd have to leave soon |
| 10:29.58 | benjk | to make it in time for the conference |
| 10:30.10 | SwK | aight I go bed now |
| 10:30.20 | trixter | swm_: what type of plane? |
| 10:30.31 | swm_ | Cessna Encore |
| 10:30.39 | trixter | I have only flown a cessena 182 (although I have been in many that is the only one I was at hte controls of) |
| 10:30.40 | SwK | its 430AM and i'm supposed to be at work at like 9 or something |
| 10:30.43 | trixter | ahh |
| 10:30.54 | trixter | I did the 182 when I was in civil air patrol, the air force bought it for us |
| 10:31.02 | SwK | swm_ whats the range on that thing? |
| 10:31.05 | trixter | so classes were $10/hr in the iar and free ground school |
| 10:31.11 | swm_ | Range? |
| 10:31.15 | trixter | I think the encore maxes at 1500 or less |
| 10:31.26 | benjk | that's not good enough to even get to Hawaii |
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| 10:31.39 | benjk | need to fly over Alasaka then |
| 10:31.40 | SwK | yeah you know how far can you fly on 1 fuel load |
| 10:32.21 | trixter | most small planes can go further than 1500 miles.. I think the gulfstream (jets not props) are the only ones that could go across the ocean and then the smaller ones you are running on fumes typically when you get there - not always a good place to be incase of headwinds/weather |
| 10:32.35 | swm_ | 792/km hour / 5,375lbs of fuel / IFR Range is about 3000 km |
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| 10:32.51 | trixter | ahh so my 1500 guess was close :) |
| 10:32.59 | swm_ | not bad |
| 10:33.04 | SwK | trixter our CAP unit had a T38 for a while until some jerkoff got caught flying people that couldnt pass a flight physical and the AF yanked that thing with the quickness |
| 10:33.09 | trixter | er half |
| 10:33.16 | swm_ | I re-fuel every state border for saftey purposes :) |
| 10:33.18 | trixter | a nautical mile is longer than a statute mile |
| 10:33.44 | benjk | difficult to refuel over the Pacific though |
| 10:33.47 | trixter | 6023 feet approx vs 5280 feet for a statute |
| 10:33.52 | coppice | T38 - the flying FAX protocol :-) |
| 10:33.57 | benjk | unless you have connection at the USAF |
| 10:34.12 | SwK | coppice yeah... with 2 turbo fan engines |
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| 10:34.27 | swm_ | LOL I can do voip from my plane ... lags a little bit but satellite does that :) |
| 10:34.28 | trixter | benjk: well even then if you arent equipped for in air fueling or carrier landings you cant relaly get anythingfrom them |
| 10:34.34 | trixter | even if you have a good relationship |
| 10:34.40 | coppice | is it a twin? I thought it was too small for that |
| 10:35.02 | SwK | coppice its a 2 seater F105 basically |
| 10:35.09 | benjk | trixter: but in the movies they always do that sort of thing ... somehow ... :-) |
| 10:35.36 | swm_ | SwK: which plane are you talking about |
| 10:35.40 | coppice | i remember them mostly from chasing shuttles, and other NASAy activities |
| 10:35.41 | SwK | coppice NASA uses them for chase planes cause the can do MACH1+ |
| 10:35.48 | SwK | swm_ T38 |
| 10:35.58 | swm_ | Oh yeah those are interesting little things :) |
| 10:36.27 | SwK | swm_ yeah got a ride in one back in the late 80s when i was doing the Civil Air Patrol thing... |
| 10:36.39 | SwK | see my comments about it and the air force about heh |
| 10:37.08 | SwK | s/about/above/ |
| 10:37.15 | swm_ | Sweet, I got my license flying in the national guard. Started out flying choppers (black hawks) and got my own plane when my relative died |
| 10:37.27 | SwK | kool |
| 10:37.40 | SwK | i never did get my license (wish i did) |
| 10:38.28 | swm_ | Yeah nothing like flying a chopper and having RPG's flying at you while your dropping 6 guys into a drug operation :) ... South america sucks ass :) |
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| 10:38.56 | SwK | have a few hours of time tho... couple in sesna 172 about an hour in the T38 and about 2 hours in a A4 Skyhawk |
| 10:39.09 | swm_ | sesna? CESSNA |
| 10:39.18 | SwK | have about 1000hrs in the A4 Simulator tho heh |
| 10:39.21 | SwK | yeah cessna |
| 10:39.49 | SwK | i cant speel and I'm pissed cause I've only had about an hour of sleep in the past 24 hours and insomnia is kicking my ass |
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| 10:40.07 | swm_ | I dont like simulators dont feel anything real. I like the vibrations, crosswinds & pressure changes... More real to me... :) |
| 10:40.15 | SwK | yeah |
| 10:40.45 | swm_ | Oh flying a copper you get updraft and crossdrafts when your flying around mountians ... thats really fun... If you had a big lunch it wont be so big when you get out :) |
| 10:40.53 | SwK | when I was in the military tho I was in the ATC unit and the Simulator Officer was a friend of mine so I got time there whenever the pilots weren't around |
| 10:41.40 | swm_ | SwK: That's hard to do now of days ... |
| 10:42.02 | swm_ | 9/11 Created alot of paperwork to become a pilot |
| 10:42.14 | SwK | swm_ I have a little time in a kiawa (OH-58) |
| 10:42.17 | wasim | especially if you're brown and bearded |
| 10:42.18 | SwK | yeah i know |
| 10:42.24 | SwK | hahaha |
| 10:42.25 | swm_ | lol |
| 10:42.39 | SwK | DONT LET THE BROWN MAN FLY!!! |
| 10:42.39 | swm_ | wasim: Exactly putting the pushpin on the dot |
| 10:42.50 | coppice | i used to work with lots of ex fighter pilots. those guys have amazing reaction times :-) |
| 10:43.02 | SwK | yeah most of them are nuts |
| 10:43.18 | SwK | rotary wing pilots arent exactly sane tho |
| 10:43.46 | swm_ | I agree with that |
| 10:44.03 | SwK | damned Cobra pilots we had around when I was in the Marines were just completely insane |
| 10:44.48 | SwK | my little brother was with a Kiawa scout unit... those guys have some balls... going after tanks and stuff with just a skid mounted .50 |
| 10:44.59 | SwK | and a laser pointer heh |
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| 10:45.17 | swm_ | lol we had a guy in the guard that performed a reverse -5 1/6 dive in rollover and pulled out of it and I about shit watching it ... 240 feet elevation ... Just thought he was a dead man... but thats why people die... trying stupid shit |
| 10:45.38 | SwK | swm_ you know what CAX is ? |
| 10:45.54 | swm_ | I know about 4 different acronym's for CAX |
| 10:46.04 | SwK | Combines Arms eXercise |
| 10:46.14 | swm_ | That would be 1 of them heh |
| 10:47.04 | swm_ | 96-Hour test :) |
| 10:47.29 | SwK | the Marines have CAX out on the west coast (usually 29stumps) about once a year... in 92 some batshit Cobra pilot was comming in yanking and banking and walked his main rotor down the sand a couple hundred meters |
| 10:48.46 | swm_ | SwK: LOL ... Oh .. I would love to see that ... That would be like "Americas Stupidest pilots" ... Do you know what AIT iz? :) |
| 10:49.01 | SwK | AdvInfantry Training? |
| 10:49.17 | swm_ | Advanced Individual Training |
| 10:49.21 | SwK | heh |
| 10:49.33 | SwK | not familiar w/ that one |
| 10:49.40 | SwK | must be a army thing |
| 10:50.29 | swm_ | Training I undertook in the guard. Very limited people get exposed to this training. You have to be fast, quick, always on your toes looking for the most smallest threat. but they teach you things that other pilots never will see done. |
| 10:50.48 | SwK | altho i must say CAX is the most awsome live fire exersize to witness live |
| 10:51.20 | SwK | kool |
| 10:51.25 | coppice | swm_: sounds like living in some of the neighbourhoods i try to avoid :-) |
| 10:51.39 | swm_ | Yeah I've taken out runway's in live firefights with drug lords in south america... Stuff that can keep a man up for months thinking about it |
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| 10:52.28 | swm_ | 50mm shells, rpg's, surface to air weapons. 3 choppers moving in and they just unload on you... |
| 10:52.30 | SwK | swm_: alto I must say... when it comes to military officers the Navy and Marines got it right.... only part of the US military that puts officers in large piles of metal and throws them at the enemy |
| 10:53.03 | SwK | (re: cat lauch) |
| 10:53.06 | SwK | launch |
| 10:53.14 | SwK | damn i cant tipe or speel tonight |
| 10:53.45 | swm_ | I do prefer the Hades bomb for taking out large areas... the explosion is just way intense :) |
| 10:54.00 | trixter | I saw iron eagle |
| 10:54.37 | swm_ | Iron Eagle? Isin't that some movie where a guy is flying some kind of jet powered military plane? |
| 10:54.48 | SwK | I prefer the BLU-82 |
| 10:55.23 | SwK | if you want to really screw up some real estate that is |
| 10:55.26 | swm_ | Oh yeah the Daisy Cutter :) |
| 10:55.49 | SwK | but the most fun is the MK19 |
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| 10:56.15 | SwK | if you've never had the pleasure of letting a MK19 open up you havent had real fun |
| 10:56.22 | swm_ | You normally drop that from a C-130 Transport ... That'll clear a 300 foot landing path for choppers :) |
| 10:57.03 | SwK | well a BLU-82 is like a 15K lb bomb |
| 10:57.18 | swm_ | For sure |
| 10:57.32 | SwK | its not like you can mount that one a wing pylon |
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| 10:58.40 | swm_ | Did you know it was designed for clearing out the jungle for choppers? |
| 10:58.45 | SwK | yeah |
| 10:59.06 | SwK | EAF used them in 'Nam for forward refuel/rearm points |
| 10:59.15 | swm_ | It's also designed to detonate 1 to 6 feet above ground to minimize the crater effect a more smooth surface |
| 10:59.49 | SwK | if it goes bang i've probably tried to get my grubby little hands on it ;) |
| 10:59.56 | swm_ | Personally just drop a Hydrogen bomb and let that clear out the forest :) .. |
| 11:00.40 | swm_ | How the hell did I get to talking about weapons and destruction in a PBX conference :) everyone must of fallen asleep :) |
| 11:00.42 | mutilator | yea, then just go diving into radiation! |
| 11:00.59 | swm_ | Radiation? Hydrogen is not a radioactive substance ... |
| 11:01.13 | swm_ | Nuclear would be the word your searching to slam on |
| 11:01.19 | SwK | when it comes to small arms there not too much in the current military arsenal i havent fired.... (save stuff that was deployed after the mid 90s) |
| 11:01.58 | swm_ | LOL they dont upgrade quickly ... they like to stay with proven technology. |
| 11:02.09 | SwK | yeah |
| 11:02.24 | SwK | i know... but they have a few new things on the horizon |
| 11:02.27 | swm_ | LOL i used to live 20 miles from a Chemical Depot where they destroy gas weapons :) |
| 11:02.42 | SwK | i live right off Redstone ;) |
| 11:02.56 | SwK | and I was a jarhead heh |
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| 11:03.40 | swm_ | Marine ? |
| 11:03.50 | swm_ | USMC |
| 11:03.50 | SwK | when I was in the Corps, i was FullTime staff for a reserve unit... the Armourer (who was also full time) got to be a good friend of mine... |
| 11:03.51 | SwK | yeah |
| 11:04.12 | swm_ | Ok I am getting war hungry... Time to go make some pipe bombs :) heh |
| 11:04.16 | SwK | we didnt have much to do when the reservist were not around so we went to the rang heh |
| 11:04.21 | znoG | guys, is it "bad" to use an AGI script to dial any number in the system? its too hard to do what I want to do with the standard dialplan, doing it in Perl is much easier/quicker/neater |
| 11:04.43 | trixter | I am slightly bored now.. I think I need something to do |
| 11:05.08 | swm_ | Come over here trixter .. I'll show you how to make a hydrogen bomb out of Tin foil, water and liquid lye |
| 11:05.12 | mutilator | uh |
| 11:05.22 | mutilator | hydrogen bombs still produce radiation |
| 11:05.25 | mutilator | they are nuclear weapons |
| 11:05.37 | SwK | znog: if you are doing something int he AGI to manipulate the number or destination route go for it,,, just DO NOT CALL DIAL IN THE AGI... set a variable, exit the AGI then in the next priority in your dialplan dial the variable |
| 11:05.57 | swm_ | mutilator ... Your computer screen creates more radiation than a hydrogen bomb lol |
| 11:06.02 | mutilator | um no |
| 11:06.06 | mutilator | it doesn't |
| 11:06.10 | SwK | mutilator I think he's refering to the conventional hydrogen |
| 11:06.20 | swm_ | oh wow ... |
| 11:06.23 | swm_ | yeah that might |
| 11:06.34 | SwK | hydrogren + O2 == big fireball lots o' heat |
| 11:06.56 | coppice | it can also put a man on the moon |
| 11:06.56 | swm_ | the whole purpose in the hydrogen bomb now of days (a little catchup course) is to minimize the radiation and have a huge explosion. |
| 11:07.15 | coppice | which was a waste of time, cos he didn't bring back any green cheese |
| 11:07.26 | trixter | swm_: neighbor when I was in high school used HCl (muratic acid specifically) and foil in a plastic soda bottle |
| 11:07.56 | SwK | coppice he didnt bring back green cheese cause they didn't really go... they were on a sound stage at one of the studios in hollywood |
| 11:07.57 | swm_ | trixter: How did you keep the bottle from melting from the chemical exchange? |
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| 11:08.11 | steff | hi all |
| 11:08.16 | trixter | any time you mix an acid and metal a salt is formed and hydrogen is released, if you get enough hydrogen (and oxygen) with enough heat it will explode |
| 11:08.16 | znoG | SwK: yea, actually, that was part of the plan, calling dial in the end... how come its best to set the variable and call dial from asterisk? |
| 11:08.27 | trixter | that is the principle, not a nuclear weapon by any means |
| 11:08.36 | SwK | znog dial blocks and you AGI will stay running... |
| 11:08.39 | trixter | 2 litre soda bottles worked fine |
| 11:08.49 | trixter | especially when they were shoved in fiberglass mailboxes |
| 11:08.54 | znoG | SwK: for the duration of the call? or forever? |
| 11:08.56 | swm_ | Trixter: Ok I was picturing a small little 20oz bottle |
| 11:08.58 | SwK | znog that means its eating system resources while you are running your mouth... |
| 11:09.25 | trixter | you dont fill it full cause you need oxygen and when you increase pressure you create heat as well, which makes it handy for a detonator |
| 11:09.55 | trixter | course you could always just get calcium carbonate and water, when mixed they release a gas like acyletaine |
| 11:10.06 | trixter | er acyteline |
| 11:10.11 | SwK | for the duration of the call... if its a busy system thats dozens of perl interpreters or PHP interpreters or whatever running when you can just set a variable exit the AGI Dial(${SOME_VARIABLE}) then on exten => h do a deadagi for clean up |
| 11:10.28 | swm_ | Hydrochloric acid and Magnesium :) |
| 11:10.36 | SwK | if you even need to do the clean up |
| 11:10.51 | flot | Who is used SIPNET.ru ? |
| 11:11.22 | swm_ | anyone from russia in a american chatroom? Ok I thought not... Will someone call border patrol... |
| 11:11.23 | trixter | now if you want a really big boom, home made fireworks out of N4 are trivial, amonia and chemical fertilizer (need indsutrial amonia the stuff in stores is 2% normally) which when mixed can make amonium nitrate, then add diesel fuel to make it N4.. as seein in the 1993 world trade center attack as well as oklahoma city |
| 11:11.27 | znoG | SwK: is the deadagi needed? |
| 11:11.47 | SwK | trixter its called AmFo |
| 11:11.54 | trixter | swm_: what column is Mg in on the periodic table? cause the one that Al is in works best.. |
| 11:12.10 | trixter | SwK: its also called N4 |
| 11:12.12 | SwK | znog: only if you need the AGI to process (or keep processing) after the call is hungup |
| 11:12.50 | znoG | SwK: ah okay.. can't see a need to do that just yet, but i'll keep it in mind. I'll probably do what you said. Thanks! |
| 11:12.53 | swm_ | trixter: Not sure would have to look it up :) was not that big on chemistry but I did alot of research on making an explosion :) |
| 11:12.54 | SwK | trixter and its easy to make... just get fertilizer at the farmers co-op... its got plent of AmmoniumNitrate in it ;) |
| 11:13.09 | trixter | thermite is also a fun toy.. 50/50 ratio of aluminum powder and ferric oxide (iron rust) mixed evenly together.. light with something hot like magnesium and you have a few thousand degree incendary (WWII was about when that was discovered) |
| 11:13.16 | *** join/#asterisk pa (n=Paolo@unaffiliated/pa) |
| 11:13.25 | SwK | RDX is easy to make too if you can get the old formulat fuel tables |
| 11:13.28 | znoG | SwK: the AGI is mainly to determine whether a pin should be asked for (ie. local extensions don't have a pin asked for, but local/mobile calls do) |
| 11:13.28 | SwK | err tabs |
| 11:13.43 | trixter | SwK: some use that however some dont.. if you get chemical fertilizer at the local garden shop you want at least 70% nitrogen |
| 11:13.47 | znoG | SwK: it was just much easier doing it with AGI than using the * dialplan |
| 11:14.08 | swm_ | OK enough military/weapons/bombs/explosions/chemical ratio's/etc ... I'm getting tired :) |
| 11:14.22 | trixter | the amonia is harder to get but not impossible, its used as a refrigerant in many systems, especially portable ones like on boats and motorhomes |
| 11:14.39 | SwK | znog: i wrote 1000s of calls a day on 1 box with an AGI |
| 11:14.41 | swm_ | 52 hours of beeing awake and trying to think all this stuff up is just too much to think about :) |
| 11:14.56 | znoG | SwK: nice, always exiting the AGI to dial, right? |
| 11:14.58 | SwK | it works great for complex stuff |
| 11:15.01 | SwK | yeah |
| 11:15.09 | znoG | SwK: what sort of stuff do you do to "clean up" the AGI? |
| 11:15.16 | swm_ | LOL wonder how Digium would stand if I flew a plane right into the building :) |
| 11:15.18 | SwK | rating a call |
| 11:15.24 | znoG | SwK: ahh |
| 11:15.28 | SwK | setting states etx |
| 11:15.35 | znoG | SwK: when you call DEADAGI, it tells you how long the call went for etc? |
| 11:15.47 | SwK | theres variables for that |
| 11:16.00 | trixter | I have to see how well this box will handle a load.. customer wants to test out 600k minutes a month (30 channels 11 hours per day) and grow to 1000 concurrent channels for 13 hours per day. hopefully all goes well and they are happy cause that means I am happy especially since I will be making money off the voip service too :D |
| 11:16.14 | swm_ | znoG: Your confusing yourself. Digging for and answer that would be normally right in front of your face |
| 11:16.17 | SwK | check out the variables that are passed by default and then there are some you have to query for |
| 11:16.30 | trixter | that type of load testing though is gonna be a bit rough.. at least the way I wrote the custom code for it its easy to distribute everything |
| 11:16.42 | SwK | check out the wiki theres a good bit of AGI info there |
| 11:16.49 | znoG | SwK: yeah i printed all the keys and values for the standard ReadParse.. i just thought calling DEADAGI might include some other vars as the call would have been completed |
| 11:17.13 | trixter | swm_: how do you play zork on the phone then? |
| 11:17.15 | znoG | swm_: what alternative is there for complex stuff though? |
| 11:17.16 | trixter | zasterisk! |
| 11:17.30 | mutilator | or et your local weather |
| 11:17.32 | mutilator | get*( |
| 11:17.34 | mutilator | get* |
| 11:17.38 | SwK | znog the alternative is to write app_whatever_you_need |
| 11:17.53 | trixter | you can technically get the weather and do zasterisk via dbget or whatever |
| 11:18.04 | trixter | but that is a pain to use channel variables in the dialplan and do it that way |
| 11:18.05 | znoG | SwK: heh, yeah, don't think i'm gonna go that far |
| 11:18.10 | trixter | then you still need backend code to populate the DB |
| 11:18.12 | SwK | i do AGI/FastAGI cause its faster/easier in most cases |
| 11:18.21 | swm_ | *** I DONT PLAY ZORK ON A PHONE *** |
| 11:18.32 | trixter | swm_: loser |
| 11:18.38 | swm_ | I have better things to do with my time then tinker with games :) |
| 11:18.42 | SwK | ok i really go sleep now |
| 11:18.52 | znoG | thanks for the info SwK :) |
| 11:19.05 | znoG | you have saved me from lots of running processes running wild and free |
| 11:19.06 | mutilator | if you had a database to dbget from? |
| 11:19.29 | mutilator | cronjob a script to add it every hour or what? |
| 11:19.34 | trixter | I actually havent played it, but that is one example of taking a data file and without really converting it to something else being able to parse data out and use it in a telephony environment.. which can be a legit problem -- how would you be able to do that without an agi? |
| 11:19.36 | swm_ | LOL I grew up and figured out by playing games it does not get you anywhere in life... Reality is the best way to live ... RPG's and Fantasy games or whatever are just stupid. Tic-Tac-Toe is the only game with logic :) |
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| 11:20.13 | mutilator | GRRR! |
| 11:20.21 | mutilator | they took down 2 of my modem banks in saginaw last night |
| 11:20.32 | mutilator | mrtg spit me out 70 billion errors in my email |
| 11:20.41 | swm_ | mutilator: Did they mutilate them? |
| 11:20.52 | trixter | I played computer games in the 70s by the 80s I was only interested in cracking them ... I generally dont play games now however zasterisk does show that you can parse arbitrary data from custom formats and interact with a caller based on that information |
| 11:20.57 | mutilator | changed ips or unplugged i dunno |
| 11:21.09 | swm_ | mutilator: Maybe they had a hydrogen bomb go off near them and it created some electromagnetic pulses and knocked it out :) |
| 11:21.10 | trixter | which aside from the fact that its a game it does show a certain problem off in a specific way |
| 11:21.11 | mutilator | they're nice tc1000's tho i'de hope they didn;t mutilate em |
| 11:22.18 | swm_ | Oh wait doesn't a bomb have to be nuclear to create EMP? Hmm.... Unless it's a highly overloaded energy field... ** |
| 11:23.20 | trixter | no it doesnt |
| 11:23.24 | trixter | look at flux compression generators |
| 11:23.37 | trixter | a charged coil (usually by capacitors) is compressed when a high explosive is detonated |
| 11:23.38 | swm_ | trixter: Are you going to stick that in a bomb? |
| 11:23.41 | trixter | that results in a large EMP |
| 11:24.05 | mutilator | and they hooked up another pm4 |
| 11:24.06 | mutilator | GRR |
| 11:24.34 | swm_ | LOL I think i'm gonna go down to my sub station and de-activate all the voltage regulation equipment and overload all the transformers in town :) ... Sounds like fun :) |
| 11:27.41 | mutilator | i wondered why that server was runnin so slow |
| 11:27.49 | mutilator | logrotate decided to kick in |
| 11:28.03 | mutilator | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:28.26 | mutilator | and you're goin to bed |
| 11:29.07 | lo_tech | that's a silly amount of load just for logrotate |
| 11:30.09 | mutilator | well |
| 11:30.13 | mutilator | it's our mail filter server too |
| 11:30.24 | mutilator | load normally runs ~4 |
| 11:30.29 | mutilator | across the board |
| 11:31.06 | lo_tech | have db servers with 5k+ connections that dont run that hard |
| 11:31.41 | mutilator | it's comin back down now |
| 11:31.47 | mutilator | 06:31:34 up 22 days, 21:42, 3 users, load average: 9.49, 10.91, 8.35 |
| 11:32.00 | mutilator | just does it when logrotate hits |
| 11:32.10 | mutilator | cause it slows the server down moving files... it's only ide |
| 11:32.38 | lo_tech | you mean eide, right :P |
| 11:32.58 | mutilator | meh |
| 11:33.20 | mutilator | concurrency on the mail runs ~60 msgs |
| 11:33.31 | mutilator | and i think i have 9 spamd child threads for scanning it |
| 11:33.49 | mutilator | and virus scanned at smtp |
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| 11:37.28 | mutilator | hmm |
| 11:37.31 | mutilator | k maybe it's not logrotate |
| 11:37.32 | mutilator | wtf |
| 11:38.02 | mutilator | spamd runnin like mad |
| 11:38.08 | Assid | reduce the concurrency |
| 11:38.10 | mutilator | must be what it is |
| 11:38.16 | mutilator | Assid: then messages get lost.. |
| 11:38.22 | Assid | not really |
| 11:38.26 | Assid | they go into queue |
| 11:38.31 | Assid | takes 3 seconds more |
| 11:38.40 | Assid | on a 1.3 celeron |
| 11:38.41 | mutilator | er.. concurrency = how many connections i take in at once |
| 11:38.52 | Assid | hrmm |
| 11:38.59 | Assid | i thinki have that at 100 |
| 11:39.11 | Assid | i avg 1 email per 2 seconds |
| 11:39.11 | mutilator | mines set at 120 but i only run ~60 |
| 11:39.31 | Assid | runs spamd and clamd |
| 11:39.33 | mutilator | i get a few more than that.. |
| 11:39.50 | Assid | well.. you have more than just a 1.3 celeron right? |
| 11:40.21 | Assid | i run a webserver.. database.. imap.. pop3.. email.. and few php cli apps.. and some other stuff too |
| 11:40.21 | mutilator | ya, dual 2.4 xeons with HT |
| 11:40.27 | mutilator | actually ht isn't runnin on that |
| 11:40.47 | *** join/#asterisk saftsack (n=saftsack@IP-213188106101.dialin.heagmedianet.de) |
| 11:40.50 | saftsack | hi |
| 11:40.54 | mutilator | box runs radius and asterisk too |
| 11:40.54 | Assid | with database logging for every email in and out.. |
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| 11:41.29 | mutilator | right now in 2 seconds i got 34 messages |
| 11:41.48 | saftsack | asterisk voicemail is the same like an answerphone on a normal telephone, right? |
| 11:41.49 | Assid | hrmm |
| 11:42.16 | mutilator | mail.freesprung.com:38.112.164.2::40590 |
| 11:42.18 | mutilator | AND |
| 11:42.26 | mutilator | mail.esmartloan.com:63.150.226.151::1685 |
| 11:42.29 | mutilator | are spamminating me |
| 11:42.38 | Assid | block em |
| 11:42.50 | mutilator | yeh |
| 11:43.12 | Assid | you using qmail? |
| 11:43.13 | Assid | set them either in your iptables.. or tcp.smtp with a message to go away |
| 11:43.36 | Assid | you may wanna subscribe to rbl too |
| 11:43.43 | mutilator | ya |
| 11:43.51 | mutilator | i got smapcop and spamhaus smtp level blocks |
| 11:43.55 | mutilator | spamcop |
| 11:44.08 | Assid | same here |
| 11:44.16 | mutilator | then the rest of the rbl stuff is spamd point based |
| 11:45.30 | Assid | i wish people moved onto spf |
| 11:45.36 | Assid | would make life easier |
| 11:46.42 | mutilator | i thought about using it but i figured it's too new right now, and it'de fsck up mail and people would complain |
| 11:46.47 | mutilator | and i just didn't wanna deal with that |
| 11:47.14 | Assid | i have it on softfail |
| 11:47.26 | mutilator | what i have in place now has an awesome success rate so far |
| 11:47.37 | Assid | so.. i give points to those using it. |
| 11:48.14 | Assid | rather the other way around |
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| 12:18.13 | zoa | hey areski |
| 12:21.16 | areski | Hello Zoa |
| 12:21.29 | areski | zoa, how u doing ' |
| 12:21.34 | zoa | im fine |
| 12:21.36 | zoa | you? |
| 12:21.40 | zoa | going to belgium for xmas ? |
| 12:23.08 | areski | zoa, not this time, My gf win and I am going with her in Italy |
| 12:23.39 | areski | well she is Italian! I will be back end of January probably |
| 12:23.40 | coppice | not going to belgium sounds like a win :-) |
| 12:23.50 | zoa | hehe |
| 12:24.24 | areski | well I have to spent xas with her familly |
| 12:24.30 | areski | that s why she win |
| 12:24.49 | areski | one year each, i guess it s fair |
| 12:25.00 | areski | zoa, u r coming back |
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| 12:27.46 | coppice | Nick Serv has amnesia? |
| 12:27.48 | zoa | nah |
| 12:27.55 | zoa | but im not going with my gf either |
| 12:28.02 | zoa | so now im in a big fight :) |
| 12:29.07 | zoa | but if i dont even like spending xmas with my own family, im certainly not going to spend half a week with someone else's family |
| 12:29.14 | zoa | especially if they speak a different language |
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| 12:30.38 | areski | sure you should have it harder ! Italian is kind of easy to learn like Spanish |
| 12:31.13 | zoa | especially if you are french speaking :) |
| 12:31.17 | trixter | moral question ... what would you do if you saw a company that sold a commercial non-free license of software that used directly code that is owned by the FSF, netbsd and the regents of california (BSD stuff) |
| 12:31.50 | zoa | you can sell software with a bsd license, no ? |
| 12:32.00 | trixter | there is a clause that requires : |
| 12:32.05 | trixter | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:32.05 | trixter | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:32.05 | trixter | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:32.05 | trixter | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:32.12 | trixter | same for the regents just different attirbution |
| 12:32.21 | trixter | and the company doesnt include that in their advertising materials |
| 12:32.43 | trixter | I am just curious what everyone would do if they discoverd that |
| 12:32.58 | zoa | depending on the case i would either not care |
| 12:33.11 | zoa | if i'd care a little i'd send them an email |
| 12:33.21 | zoa | if i care a lot i'd send a mail to the people from the project |
| 12:33.43 | trixter | cause its not just netbsd stuff, its also the regents of CA and the FSF that have code in there |
| 12:33.44 | zoa | if i'd care a whole lot i'd sent em to my gf's family for xmas |
| 12:34.17 | zoa | not that i dont like the people btw, i just dont like xmas |
| 12:34.55 | trixter | ahh |
| 12:35.24 | trixter | I was thinking about submitting them to gplviolators.org and other places becuase this company makes it appear ot many that they are solely responsible for the software with their copyright and 'written by' notices |
| 12:35.32 | drray | I thought the only condition of the BSD license was that you acknowldege the code |
| 12:35.32 | trixter | and they dont give credit where credit is due, and in some cases required |
| 12:35.37 | areski | same for me, I guess... I dont have so much the christmas spirit :) |
| 12:35.42 | trixter | drray: there are different BSD licenses |
| 12:35.56 | areski | I still forget this year about the xmas tree |
| 12:36.05 | trixter | the ones in question specifically require mention in advertising materials |
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| 12:48.32 | loop1979 | hi everybody |
| 12:49.29 | loop1979 | can sombody help me? i installed asterisk@home 2.1 and now i can't use DTMF anymore...(in the 1.3 version it worked fine...) |
| 12:49.37 | loop1979 | i use cisco's 7960 |
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| 12:51.41 | loop1979 | can sombody help me? i installed asterisk@home 2.1 and now i can't use DTMF anymore...(in the 1.3 version it worked fine...) |
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| 12:52.36 | loop1979 | nobody here? |
| 12:52.57 | loop1979 | oder kann man hier deutsch schreiben? |
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| 12:54.23 | tzafrir_laptop | loop1979, #asterisk-de ? |
| 12:54.31 | loop1979 | english is also ok |
| 12:54.54 | loop1979 | i need help with DTMF.. |
| 12:55.10 | loop1979 | i don't see what's wrong and why i can't use it anymore with the cisco's and other phones.. |
| 12:55.25 | tzafrir_laptop | try to give more details about phones and such. I figure that this is a SIP phone and its dtmf type has changed |
| 12:55.38 | loop1979 | i use cisco 7960 |
| 12:55.42 | loop1979 | and asterisk@home 2.1 |
| 12:55.52 | loop1979 | i didn't change the phones .. |
| 12:56.04 | loop1979 | but i updated from a@h 1.3 to a@h 2.1 |
| 12:56.10 | loop1979 | so the phones are still the same |
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| 12:56.28 | tzafrir_laptop | the upgrade procedures of AMP are, well, strange |
| 12:57.14 | loop1979 | in the extension setting i always have rfc2833 dtmfmode |
| 12:57.20 | loop1979 | i think that's standart |
| 12:57.51 | loop1979 | and in the cisco config i use inband dtmf = enabled and outbadn dtmf = avt |
| 12:57.56 | loop1979 | and payload = 101 |
| 12:58.04 | loop1979 | i think thats also standard.. |
| 12:59.00 | loop1979 | i can dial with every phone, no problem, but i can't use dtmf for example voicemail password... |
| 13:00.31 | loop1979 | any ideas? |
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| 13:03.17 | mog_home | mwahahah |
| 13:03.23 | mog_home | new source in asterisk-xmpp |
| 13:03.23 | loop1979 | ? |
| 13:03.28 | mog_home | for those intrested |
| 13:03.53 | loop1979 | hm can somebody help me with my dtmf problem? |
| 13:04.07 | mog_home | whats wrong loop1979 |
| 13:04.13 | loop1979 | i don't know |
| 13:04.16 | mog_home | lol |
| 13:04.17 | loop1979 | i updated from |
| 13:04.17 | mog_home | good answer |
| 13:04.23 | loop1979 | 1.3 to 2.1 a@h |
| 13:04.33 | loop1979 | and everything work as it should... |
| 13:04.39 | loop1979 | but the dtmf recon.. |
| 13:04.51 | loop1979 | whenn i use voicemail or something didn't recognice it |
| 13:05.04 | loop1979 | so i can't give with dtmf my passowrd.. |
| 13:05.18 | loop1979 | asterisk ignore what i do with the dtmf.. |
| 13:05.39 | loop1979 | so it seems it didn't recognize dtmf .. |
| 13:06.01 | loop1979 | on the extension i have rfc2833 |
| 13:06.15 | loop1979 | so it should work as normal...but it doesnt |
| 13:06.20 | loop1979 | do you have any ideas |
| 13:06.20 | loop1979 | = |
| 13:06.22 | loop1979 | ? |
| 13:06.24 | tzafrir_laptop | any chance I could use asterisk-xmpp with a jabber server that runs using a free JVM? |
| 13:06.39 | tzafrir_laptop | (free as in Debian/main) |
| 13:06.57 | mog_home | asterisk@home |
| 13:07.04 | mog_home | jvm? |
| 13:07.04 | loop1979 | yes |
| 13:07.19 | mog_home | it will connect to jabberd1, and jabberd2 servers |
| 13:07.20 | tzafrir_laptop | ~jvm |
| 13:07.22 | jbot | [jvm] Java Virtual Machine. deb ftp://ftp.tux.org/pub/java/debian woody non-free |
| 13:07.28 | mog_home | i know what jvm is |
| 13:07.32 | mog_home | is it jive i take it? |
| 13:07.42 | mog_home | i think that only runs on java 1.5 |
| 13:07.51 | mog_home | but anyways yeah it will probably work there |
| 13:07.58 | mog_home | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:08.03 | mog_home | where as before it sucked |
| 13:08.15 | loop1979 | mog_home: any ideas about my dtmf problem? |
| 13:08.36 | mog_home | i imagine you arent really in rfc2833 and are doing inband in a codec other than ulaw |
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| 13:08.56 | loop1979 | i think the ciscos connect throug ulaw |
| 13:09.02 | loop1979 | as far as i know ... |
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| 13:09.24 | mog_home | oej! |
| 13:09.30 | mog_home | i have updated asterisk-xmpp |
| 13:09.32 | mog_home | just for you |
| 13:09.37 | mog_home | it makes sense now! |
| 13:09.42 | trixter | mog_home: does ABE have h.323? |
| 13:09.51 | mog_home | i dont have abe |
| 13:09.52 | oej | mog_home: Have you been up all night? |
| 13:09.55 | mog_home | yeah |
| 13:09.56 | trixter | ahh |
| 13:09.57 | mog_home | i was working |
| 13:10.00 | trixter | wonder which one.. |
| 13:10.08 | mog_home | wanted to get it published today |
| 13:10.11 | mog_home | before i go home |
| 13:10.19 | oej | mog_home: It has happened to me as well. I will take a look at it. I guess jingle bells go a new meaning for you too... |
| 13:10.21 | mog_home | because im not sure if i will have net there |
| 13:10.28 | mog_home | lol |
| 13:10.30 | mog_home | just wait |
| 13:10.37 | mog_home | i do have a little jingle in my step |
| 13:10.41 | mog_home | its just not visible yet |
| 13:10.41 | oej | A channel is really needed |
| 13:10.46 | mog_home | ssh |
| 13:10.50 | mog_home | you take away all the fun |
| 13:10.56 | oej | sorry |
| 13:13.02 | trixter | mog_home: do you have a url or osmething that lists thge features of ABE? I thought it was basically the same cept for the license and stuff |
| 13:13.24 | mog_home | digium site i assume ^_^ |
| 13:13.29 | mog_home | i can look it up for ya |
| 13:13.34 | mog_home | if its not included |
| 13:13.39 | mog_home | you can do oh323 |
| 13:13.42 | mog_home | as we include headers |
| 13:14.11 | trixter | you include the headers in ABE? |
| 13:14.20 | oej | Today ABE is very much the same, trixter. In the future, a lot of licensed stuff will be added by third parties. |
| 13:14.22 | mog_home | yes |
| 13:14.27 | trixter | ooh323 is gpl how can you do that without violating the gpl? |
| 13:14.33 | oej | The Asterisk core is the same as 1.2 |
| 13:14.57 | mog_home | you dont distribute it trixter |
| 13:14.57 | oej | H.323 is not included in ABE |
| 13:14.57 | mog_home | i cant give you ooh323 |
| 13:14.57 | trixter | but you said that you did distribute it |
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| 13:14.57 | trixter | mog_home you can do oh323 |
| 13:14.58 | trixter | mog_home as we include headers |
| 13:15.01 | oej | Neither is MGCP I believe |
| 13:15.03 | mog_home | we include headers for asterisk |
| 13:15.07 | sandos | I have a problem with asterisk.. it wont start, and the logs dont tell me much.. a few warnings though |
| 13:15.07 | mog_home | so you can build things against it |
| 13:15.13 | mog_home | asterisk -vvvvc |
| 13:15.14 | trixter | ahh I see what you are saying |
| 13:15.16 | mog_home | sandros |
| 13:15.19 | mog_home | so you can build it |
| 13:15.25 | mog_home | but you cant legally distribute it |
| 13:15.29 | mog_home | is my understanding |
| 13:15.31 | sandos | aha |
| 13:15.44 | trixter | is the dialplan parser the same in ABE as GPL? |
| 13:15.45 | sandos | this is always the last line: Dec 22 14:15:35 WARNING[22512]: loader.c:440 load_modules: Loading module chan_zap.so failed! |
| 13:15.50 | sandos | is this supposed to be fatal? |
| 13:15.50 | mog_home | yes |
| 13:15.54 | mog_home | everything is the same |
| 13:15.56 | trixter | that is GPL how can you release that? |
| 13:16.00 | mog_home | you probably have a bug in zapata.conf |
| 13:16.04 | trixter | according to the source code its based off bison |
| 13:16.05 | sandos | aha ok. will check. |
| 13:16.07 | trixter | owned by the FSF |
| 13:16.18 | mog_home | its slightly different |
| 13:16.19 | trixter | or at least includes code from bison |
| 13:16.23 | oej | trixter, but we do not link bison |
| 13:16.27 | mog_home | because you run bison to create the documents |
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| 13:16.29 | trixter | ahh so its just a drived work from FSF owned GPLed software |
| 13:16.32 | trixter | so that makes it ok I see |
| 13:16.34 | mog_home | its a direvitive work |
| 13:16.37 | sandos | how would I disable everything related to zapata? I dont have any of that stuff. |
| 13:16.43 | trixter | nah code from bison is in the .c file |
| 13:16.58 | oej | sandos: add "noload chan_zap.so" in modules.conf |
| 13:17.01 | trixter | so linking isnt the issue its copying gpled code into a commercial product not licensed under the gpl |
| 13:17.06 | sandos | thanks! |
| 13:17.25 | oej | trixter: Yes, bison is a tool we use, like gcc, to build asterisk. But we do not link to either |
| 13:17.30 | mog_home | its like it was built with gcc |
| 13:17.30 | mog_home | things built with gcc are not ness. gpl |
| 13:17.30 | mog_home | we dont link against any gpl binaries trixter |
| 13:17.39 | trixter | oej: lkook inside the .c file |
| 13:17.46 | oej | Hmmm. Will do. |
| 13:17.47 | trixter | the dialplan parser uses code from bison directly |
| 13:17.59 | trixter | let me get the exact file |
| 13:18.14 | trixter | becuase you guys now dont want to accept that I actually know how to compile or read comments in code |
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| 13:18.19 | saftsack | hi |
| 13:18.26 | sandos | ah, this works. nice. I wonder why this happened though, I havent changed any config lately. maybe a debian update |
| 13:18.40 | oej | trixter: I read the file and found this: As a special exception, when this file is copied by Bison into a |
| 13:18.49 | oej | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:18.49 | trixter | ast_expr2.c |
| 13:18.49 | oej | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:18.49 | trixter | specifically |
| 13:18.49 | oej | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:19.03 | mog_home | other than libpri |
| 13:19.09 | trixter | first line specifically |
| 13:19.10 | mog_home | we use bison to generate some files |
| 13:19.16 | trixter | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:19.18 | oej | trixter: So the FSF gave us an exception |
| 13:19.36 | trixter | they did? suprising that they gave so much code |
| 13:19.38 | trixter | cause its more than that |
| 13:19.53 | oej | trixter: Read a few lines down, the text I quoted. You are right, but there is an exception since people use it for development of commercial products. |
| 13:19.59 | trixter | I wouldnt have guessed that the FSF would give exceptions to people to use the FSF owned code in commercial products |
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| 13:20.07 | mog_home | woah got a back log |
| 13:20.19 | mog_home | yeah that too |
| 13:20.39 | oej | No, that's very uncommon. But on the other hand, a lot of libraries have LGPL to enable build of commercial products with the GNU toolset, so it makes sense |
| 13:20.59 | mog_home | like libiksemel the library i use for jabber stuff |
| 13:21.06 | mog_home | or libcurl |
| 13:21.14 | mog_home | etc |
| 13:21.24 | oej | For every tool or library we add to asterisk, we do a license review |
| 13:21.48 | mog_home | and do we need to add a dependency review.... |
| 13:21.55 | oej | Mark and Kevin are pretty strict about that |
| 13:22.00 | zoa | they have to be |
| 13:22.03 | zoa | :) |
| 13:22.11 | zoa | im also very strict about that |
| 13:22.12 | oej | Yes |
| 13:22.19 | zoa | for our code i mean |
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| 13:22.42 | oej | Me too. That's why I got a bit upset this morning in the discussion with Benjk |
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| 13:22.51 | mog_home | you see that oej? |
| 13:22.54 | mog_home | how do you fall |
| 13:23.06 | mog_home | lgpl module allowed or not? |
| 13:23.06 | benjk | oej, there is plenty of lgpl code in asterisk |
| 13:23.17 | mog_home | ben you dont get it |
| 13:23.19 | benjk | you couldn't use CDRs for example |
| 13:23.21 | trixter | oej: yeah asterisk takes some lgpl software and passes it off as gpl |
| 13:23.27 | benjk | the CDR stuff is LGPL |
| 13:23.34 | mog_home | you can use lgpl you cant make asterisk lgpl |
| 13:23.45 | trixter | can asterisk make lgpl stuff gpl? |
| 13:23.51 | trixter | as it claims it does in its license |
| 13:23.53 | mog_home | no |
| 13:23.55 | trixter | can it include it in ABE? |
| 13:23.55 | mog_home | it doesnt |
| 13:24.03 | mog_home | lgpl says you can include in commerical work |
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| 13:24.13 | mog_home | as long as you dont change said lgpl library |
| 13:24.15 | zoa | you can include it in abe |
| 13:24.24 | zoa | as long as it dynamically linked |
| 13:24.33 | trixter | the cdr stuff in asterisk is dynamically linked? |
| 13:24.34 | zoa | you are also allowed to change it, but need to give sources anyhow |
| 13:24.35 | oej | benjk: You can not create a module based on Asterisk API and use any other license than GPL. However, Asterisk can link to other modules that are compatible to either GPL or the Digium commercial license, depending on what we want to do (asterisk or asterisk-addons) |
| 13:24.38 | trixter | hmm I will have to look at that |
| 13:24.59 | mog_home | oej once again for the win |
| 13:25.27 | mog_home | you can make things more free but not less |
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| 13:25.30 | benjk | the faq you quoted even says differently |
| 13:25.42 | mog_home | not the one qwell quotes |
| 13:25.53 | mog_home | and yours |
| 13:25.56 | mog_home | you just misread |
| 13:26.13 | trixter | ahh so including lesser gpl code in the cdr stuff for asterisk makes it more free? |
| 13:26.26 | mog_home | no |
| 13:26.27 | mog_home | trixter |
| 13:26.30 | zoa | no |
| 13:26.37 | mog_home | gpl software can use lgpl software |
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| 13:26.38 | trixter | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:26.38 | trixter | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:26.42 | tzafrir_laptop | asterisk has any issue using LGPL stuff? as in GNU TLS? |
| 13:26.42 | trixter | cdr_tds.c |
| 13:26.43 | zoa | gpl is oke with lgpl |
| 13:26.59 | trixter | its not linked its included in a file copyright digium |
| 13:27.02 | mog_home | however you cant make gpl software lgpl |
| 13:27.04 | oej | The LICENSE file in Asterisk says: If you obtained Asterisk under the GPL, then the GPL |
| 13:27.08 | oej | applies to all loadable Asterisk modules used on your system as well, |
| 13:27.10 | oej | except as defined below. The GPL (version 2) is included in this |
| 13:27.13 | oej | source tree in the file COPYING. |
| 13:27.18 | trixter | yeah |
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| 13:27.20 | trixter | that is lgpl code |
| 13:27.22 | trixter | so the gpl applies |
| 13:27.25 | trixter | which is more strict |
| 13:27.36 | trixter | keep in mind that is part of not linked into part of asterisk |
| 13:27.46 | trixter | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:27.47 | trixter | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:27.47 | trixter | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:27.49 | trixter | top of the same file |
| 13:28.07 | trixter | in essence digium took lgpl code and made it gpl which is more restrictive |
| 13:28.31 | trixter | and then aparently provides that same stuff under different lciense terms according to the license info |
| 13:28.35 | trixter | ie ABE |
| 13:28.45 | oej | trixter: Sorry, I missed which code you are talking about now |
| 13:28.56 | trixter | cdr code |
| 13:29.46 | oej | benjk: Section 2b of the GNU GPL version 2 sdoes not give you right to license with a compatible license, as you claimed |
| 13:30.02 | trixter | further the advertising material I have for asterisk violates other licenses held by at least netbsd and the regents of california |
| 13:30.21 | oej | benjk: It strictly says that you must license under the same License. |
| 13:30.28 | mutilator | damn nextel callphones |
| 13:30.33 | mutilator | won't ring in on my voip lines |
| 13:30.35 | trixter | becuase it doesnt give credit where credit is due, hell half the people that have copyrights on asterisk code arent even listed in the credits file but that isnt a license requirement so ... |
| 13:30.37 | mutilator | they hear no ringing at al |
| 13:30.38 | mutilator | l |
| 13:30.38 | oej | trixter: Which of the CDR drivers are LGPL? |
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| 13:30.54 | trixter | part of cdr_tds.c has lgpl code in it |
| 13:31.12 | trixter | at the top it states that its copyright digium but down a bit it states clearly that part of it is from libc and its lgpl |
| 13:31.18 | oej | Hmmm. And it is rumoured to be a bad driver as well. That's interesting. Wondered who disclaimed it... |
| 13:31.19 | trixter | and copyright FSF |
| 13:31.39 | trixter | it appears to have been ganked from freetds.org |
| 13:31.42 | trixter | or was that com |
| 13:31.55 | trixter | nope its org |
| 13:32.08 | oej | What in there is taken from LGPL code? |
| 13:32.15 | coppice | only microsoft could name a protocol TDS :-) |
| 13:32.33 | oej | Igm STRISTR |
| 13:32.56 | trixter | hmm indications.h is lgpl too |
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| 13:33.21 | oej | Guess someone missed this. Thanks for telling us. I will check this. |
| 13:33.58 | oej | The author (Stephen R. van den Berg) might have given us rights to use it, but I do not know. |
| 13:34.06 | trixter | make sure that the advertising materials are also compliant with the netbsd and the regents of CA (2 different licenses largely identical just attribution must be different) |
| 13:34.36 | trixter | and I think MIT too requires advertising stuff have attribution to them but I could be wrong on that one, I know that marketing materials for asterisk must include netbsd and regents credits on it |
| 13:35.07 | oej | Where do we have that code? |
| 13:35.33 | trixter | I will have to find it again |
| 13:35.44 | trixter | but its there |
| 13:35.55 | oej | Hmm. Indications.h is from zapata telephony. |
| 13:36.08 | trixter | and I am sure that the aparent licensing problems will be fixed by the next version one way or the other |
| 13:36.11 | oej | We have some BSD stuff in strings.h I believe. |
| 13:36.21 | oej | trixter: yes, but we always have to watch out |
| 13:36.50 | trixter | ./asterisk-1.2/editline/readline.c |
| 13:36.50 | trixter | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:36.50 | trixter | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:36.50 | trixter | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:36.51 | trixter | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:37.17 | trixter | readline is a feature of the cli is it not? |
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| 13:38.17 | trixter | that is just one example, there are a few places where code was used from other projects that have different non gpl licenses |
| 13:38.33 | trixter | I think there are at least 3 different lgpl things in asterisk |
| 13:41.45 | benjk | some plug-ins are LGPL |
| 13:42.17 | steff | hi, anyone have capiCD working ? |
| 13:42.38 | trixter | zaptel is lgpl |
| 13:43.08 | trixter | it kinda has to be since some include files and such as well as some C files are lgpl and it would be hard to make part lgpl and others gpl only |
| 13:44.00 | oej | Ah, readline. Yes, it's the CLI. |
| 13:44.02 | zoa | <oej> Hmm. Indications.h is from zapata telephony. -> im pretty sure that this was disclaimed |
| 13:44.04 | zoa | i think |
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| 13:44.21 | oej | Oh, zoa *thinks* - what a nice surprice ;-) |
| 13:44.22 | zoa | or could be disclaimed as that guy is very close with mark |
| 13:44.30 | oej | (My apologies to zoa) |
| 13:44.34 | zoa | so lets focus on the other files first :) |
| 13:44.37 | saftsack | is it possible, that i can turn on and turn off the voicemail from my telephone? |
| 13:45.17 | oej | I think the cdr_tds is a mistake. I found the bug report (1859) and it does not mention this code. The author of the driver disclaims all of the code, but I guess he does not have the right to this function. |
| 13:45.29 | *** join/#asterisk iCEBrkr (n=icebrkr@65.32.244.169) |
| 13:45.36 | iCEBrkr | WHUT UP!! WHUT UP!! |
| 13:45.38 | oej | And yes, I mailed Kevin and Mark about it, to bring it to their attention. They are the licensing and code masters |
| 13:45.41 | iCEBrkr | ^5 ^5 |
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| 13:45.46 | trixter | zoa: there are problems if its disclaimed though because the credits dont state all the authors and if someone contributes to a lgpl product its hard to make that anything but that license without everyone signing off on it |
| 13:45.57 | [TK]D-Fender | saftsack : as in toggle the voicemail for an extension on your server? Can be done in dial-plan raterh easily |
| 13:46.18 | saftsack | i thought, that a variable will be written, if someone does type some number |
| 13:46.21 | oej | trixter: There is a reason why we save everything in the bug tracker to be able to track things |
| 13:46.23 | saftsack | or is that the false way? |
| 13:46.34 | zoa | trixter: yes |
| 13:46.47 | zoa | depends if it has only 1 author |
| 13:46.49 | [TK]D-Fender | saftsack : pretty close. You need something persistant like ASTDB to stor it. I wouldn't trusta global var to it. |
| 13:46.55 | trixter | they list primary not sole |
| 13:47.06 | trixter | they clearly dont say there was only one and leave room to believe that there were others |
| 13:47.18 | trixter | mark is the primary for tonezone.c/h and um one other in the same dir |
| 13:47.20 | saftsack | [TK]D-Fender, asterisk 1.1.0 hasnt astdb, right? |
| 13:47.25 | oej | I have suggested that commit messages should list developer as well. Someone on asterisk-users mistook them and claimed that "only Digium employees develop", since he had checked the changelog |
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| 13:47.29 | trixter | however if mark can submit lgpl code to asterisk why cant benjk? |
| 13:48.00 | oej | trixter: It's very different |
| 13:48.10 | [TK]D-Fender | saftsack : All versions did. look up the DB() function on the WIKI |
| 13:48.17 | iCEBrkr | trixter: this isn't some pollitical b.s. is it?? |
| 13:48.20 | saftsack | ok, thank you |
| 13:48.20 | trixter | according to mog its a violation to submit lgpl to asterisk |
| 13:48.31 | oej | trixter: Benjk writes a module that links to Asterisk and thus is derivative work and has to be GPL |
| 13:48.41 | trixter | iCEBrkr: nah just pointing out the many license violations in asterisk code and hardware |
| 13:48.41 | benjk | in any event, we are calling Apple's library which is BSD licensed |
| 13:48.42 | [TK]D-Fender | iCEBrkr : So the dimwits give an update on your PRI's? And has the brass been satisfied with your co-lo test? |
| 13:48.44 | saftsack | [TK]D-Fender, where to find asterisk wiki? do you mean the wiki on voip-info.org? |
| 13:48.51 | oej | trixter: referring to the list of compatible licenses that we can link to |
| 13:48.52 | benjk | so even less restrictive than LGPL |
| 13:48.52 | [TK]D-Fender | saftsack : yes |
| 13:48.53 | trixter | oh wait I forgot about the hardware that digium sells is gpl derrived and thus should be open |
| 13:48.57 | trixter | that is a different story |
| 13:49.00 | iCEBrkr | trixter: ahh |
| 13:49.10 | iCEBrkr | [TK]D-Fender: The miami colo is working as intended! |
| 13:49.23 | oej | benjk: Yes, we can link to BSD, LGPL and a lot of different licensed libraries that will not enforce any change in Asterisk's license |
| 13:49.26 | [TK]D-Fender | But was only for froof-of-concept rught? |
| 13:49.29 | iCEBrkr | [TK]D-Fender: As far as the local PRIs, not worried about it |
| 13:49.44 | iCEBrkr | [TK]D-Fender: Either way it would have been a proof of concept test. |
| 13:49.45 | benjk | our module doesn't force any change in the Asterisk license |
| 13:49.47 | saftsack | [TK]D-Fender, ODBC connection? |
| 13:49.49 | oej | benjk: However, we do not want to link to a GPL licensed library, since that has serious impact of the Digium commercial license that Digium does not want |
| 13:49.50 | [TK]D-Fender | I would be given the cost of the card :/ |
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| 13:49.58 | iCEBrkr | [TK]D-Fender: The whole reason for the miami colo was it was supposedly quicker to get provisioned for testing. |
| 13:50.01 | [TK]D-Fender | saftsack : No, ASTDB is an internal DB1 database. |
| 13:50.07 | saftsack | ok |
| 13:50.11 | oej | benjk: No, but if you write a module that links to Asterisk, it will be GPL and GPL *only* |
| 13:50.17 | [TK]D-Fender | iCEBrkr : So your ass is out of the grinder :) |
| 13:50.21 | iCEBrkr | [TK]D-Fender: So far. |
| 13:50.22 | oej | benjk: A module that uses the Asterisk API |
| 13:50.24 | trixter | so lemme understand |
| 13:50.25 | zoa | oej, unless you pay to digium |
| 13:50.33 | tzafrir_laptop | Note, however, that you can use a GPL-only asterisj. Basically. |
| 13:50.33 | zoa | which is possible even without abe |
| 13:50.34 | oej | zoa: Right |
| 13:50.35 | trixter | asterisk can link to whatever and anyone else can only link if they are gpl |
| 13:50.42 | saftsack | [TK]D-Fender, there are thousands of entries :( but no is a documentation |
| 13:50.50 | trixter | but doesnt that mean that the code that asterisk links to has to be gpl too since this linking is a two way street |
| 13:50.59 | zoa | asterisk cannot link to whatever |
| 13:51.01 | oej | tzafrir: Right, you can write code that links to GPL and not ask digium to include it in Asterisk. It will still be GPL |
| 13:51.05 | zoa | the gpl version of asterisk can do that |
| 13:51.08 | oej | trixter: No |
| 13:51.10 | zoa | the abe cant |
| 13:51.21 | iCEBrkr | [TK]D-Fender: But the rules of the game changed. My boss was going to be really kind to my team. He was gonna split $25k between the 3 of us. :D Since we were going to have to spend $25k on new hardware + licenses on our current IVR solution. |
| 13:51.23 | oej | trixter: It depends on the license of the library we link to |
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| 13:51.34 | iCEBrkr | [TK]D-Fender: But now, it appears we don't need that extra hardware + licenses to get the job done. :( |
| 13:51.42 | zoa | ice, bring some to digium :) |
| 13:51.48 | trixter | ahh so if you link to lgpl code used inside your stuff that is ok but for benjk to release his software as lgpl that is bad |
| 13:51.49 | trixter | I see |
| 13:51.50 | iCEBrkr | zoa: I'm trying! I'm trying! |
| 13:51.56 | trixter | I think I am finally understanding |
| 13:51.57 | trixter | thanks |
| 13:52.00 | oej | trixter: Right! |
| 13:52.05 | trixter | its a one way street |
| 13:52.13 | trixter | digium can do whatever and everyone else must do what digium wants |
| 13:52.19 | trixter | at last I see what you mean |
| 13:52.19 | zoa | not true |
| 13:52.23 | oej | Anything that links to Asterisk has to follow the license for Asterisk |
| 13:52.25 | [TK]D-Fender | saftsack : exten => _*11,1,Set(DB(disblevmfor/${CALLERID(num)})=YES) |
| 13:52.27 | zoa | digium can do that only for the gpl version |
| 13:52.34 | [TK]D-Fender | saftsack : exten => _*12,1,Set(DB(disblevmfor/${CALLERID(num)})=NO) |
| 13:52.35 | oej | And if Asterisk links to something, we have to follow that license |
| 13:52.37 | zoa | for the abe digium cant do anything |
| 13:52.46 | benjk | it has to be compatible with GPL and that's it |
| 13:52.52 | [TK]D-Fender | saftsack : theres your 2 functions then you check for them in your dialing sections. |
| 13:52.55 | zoa | which means abe is asterisk stripped of all non digium owned gpl |
| 13:52.58 | trixter | oej just said that digium can link to non gpl code, bsd, lgpl etc.. and even include it within parts of their other code. but if a 3rd party writes lgpl software asterisk cant link to it without violating |
| 13:52.59 | iCEBrkr | trixter: Hey? You're just not understanding that Digium wears the pants?? |
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| 13:53.10 | trixter | that is what I said.. its digiums way for whatever and everyone else has to do what they want |
| 13:53.34 | iCEBrkr | Digium's way or the highway |
| 13:53.35 | trixter | so if anything that links to asterisk has to follow the license why doesnt asterisk have to follow the lcienses of whatever it uses? |
| 13:53.36 | benjk | besides if anyone is lax on licensing then it is Digium |
| 13:53.37 | zoa | no, asterisk can only link equally unrestricted or even more unrestricted licenses than theirs |
| 13:53.39 | oej | trixter: I don't think we can include LGPL code or GPL code within Asterisk, I did not say that. We can link to libraries with LGPL. |
| 13:53.41 | drray | as opposed to dealing with cisco |
| 13:53.51 | iCEBrkr | *Whistles* |
| 13:53.53 | trixter | but you do include lgpl code and other licenses without following them |
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| 13:53.56 | oej | But the inclusion of code that you found is something that I believe is wrong |
| 13:53.57 | benjk | not giving credits is about the worst thing you can do |
| 13:54.00 | [TK]D-Fender | Set(isvmdisabled=${DB(disablevmfor/${exten})}) |
| 13:54.01 | zoa | so, if bsd includes gpl code, than it becomes gpl licensed |
| 13:54.01 | trixter | you convert lgpl licenses into gpl licenses at will |
| 13:54.06 | [TK]D-Fender | and gotoif on that. |
| 13:54.14 | trixter | you dont follow the netbsd and regents of CA license as stated in the code |
| 13:54.26 | zoa | if some gpl licensed code includes bsd license, than it stays gpl |
| 13:54.26 | oej | zoa: That is why OpenBSD and FreeBSD people write their own implementations of everything |
| 13:54.27 | iCEBrkr | Damnit, I gotta change the idle timeout on this ssh session |
| 13:54.27 | drray | GPL has not been tested in court, I'd be weary of what people in IRC or otherwise tell you about it |
| 13:54.47 | oej | trixter: I don't know if the ABE does that or not, that's something that Digium have to take care of. |
| 13:54.52 | trixter | zoa: but that doesnt work if 1. you violate the bsd code license (there are a few licenses you need to read the specific one) and 2. if you take lgpl code you cant just magically say its gpl now |
| 13:54.54 | saftsack | [TK]D-Fender, thank you :) |
| 13:54.58 | zoa | trig: true |
| 13:55.08 | zoa | oh that you can |
| 13:55.21 | zoa | but if you take only that code, its again lgpl |
| 13:55.24 | oej | trixter: There is a difference between linking to LGPL code and actually copying the source |
| 13:55.38 | trixter | gpl is more restrictivve you cant add extra conditions to that code |
| 13:55.42 | oej | trixter: We can't re-license the code, only the author and license holder can |
| 13:55.57 | trixter | yeah and you guys copy in the code as in cut and paste |
| 13:56.13 | trixter | and dont follow the license terms of that code |
| 13:56.19 | oej | trixter: Which guys? |
| 13:56.34 | trixter | well digium is the one distroing it |
| 13:56.40 | oej | trixter: Someone submitted that code and disclaimed it all, without bothering to check the license. We have to review that part again. |
| 13:56.44 | trixter | with claims that they can at will change the license for anything in there |
| 13:57.02 | oej | trixter: And I don't really know if the TDS support is included in ABE or not, so I can't say anything about it. |
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| 13:57.16 | zeronature | anyone know the error of Dec 22 19:47:07 NOTICE[14388]: chan_sip.c:10817 handle_request_register: Registration from 'Zaky <sip:zeronature@68.0.0.196>' failed for '68.0.0.127' - Username/auth name mismatch |
| 13:57.29 | trixter | well there is always the bsd code that has advertising restrictions, specifically that any marketing materials give credit |
| 13:57.32 | oej | trixter: I don't believe Digium claims they can change any license for any code at all. |
| 13:57.35 | iCEBrkr | zeronature: um, just as it says |
| 13:57.57 | trixter | oej: they say they have an umbrella license and can grant other licenses even other open source licenses for asterisk |
| 13:57.57 | oej | trixter: Is it really "any marketing material"? |
| 13:58.14 | trixter | I believe its in advertising |
| 13:58.24 | trixter | which certainly includes the stack of flyers I have |
| 13:58.27 | oej | Yes, digium has a license to or copyright of all of asterisk in the repository and can license that any way they want |
| 13:58.41 | trixter | oej: no they dont |
| 13:58.48 | oej | Excluding those libraries that is included and has a separate license |
| 13:58.48 | benjk | not any way they want |
| 13:58.55 | benjk | they have to abide by the license terms |
| 13:58.58 | trixter | and I gave you several examples to show that digium is violating a few different open source licenses with asterisk |
| 13:59.03 | drray | or not include it |
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| 13:59.17 | trixter | not including it is part of following the license |
| 13:59.32 | iCEBrkr | You guys are making me lose my hardon |
| 13:59.33 | oej | trixter: Let's discuss that with Mark and Kevin and see what their response is. |
| 14:00.00 | drray | they'll tell you that what you are suggesting is bunk |
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| 14:00.05 | trixter | my guessi s that the code will be 'rewritten' (ie variable names changed not much else) and the license notices removed |
| 14:00.26 | iCEBrkr | re-indent too |
| 14:00.27 | trixter | hey its not my fault they use code with at least 5 different not all gpl licenses |
| 14:00.37 | trixter | its not my fault that they dont follow the license terms |
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| 14:00.53 | trixter | even their hardware is based off gpl designes so technically their newer cards that are based off that need to be open too |
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| 14:01.13 | oej | You are allowed to include BSD code, but you have to follow the license as you say |
| 14:01.31 | trixter | correct |
| 14:01.36 | zoa | doesnt have to trixter, if they bought it from whoever had the copyright on it, they could still do as they want, except revoke the gpl license |
| 14:01.50 | trixter | but they didnt |
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| 14:01.56 | zoa | you dont know that |
| 14:01.58 | trixter | nor did they claim that |
| 14:02.00 | zoa | neither do i |
| 14:02.05 | trixter | heh |
| 14:02.11 | zoa | im not sure its based on the original card either |
| 14:02.13 | zoa | and i dont think it is |
| 14:02.15 | trixter | its nice to know what I know isnt it? |
| 14:02.21 | zoa | as the design is completely different |
| 14:02.21 | zoa | :) |
| 14:02.27 | littleball | hello, how does call forward works in asterisk? |
| 14:03.00 | iCEBrkr | It works a lot like call fowarding |
| 14:03.01 | oej | The license to editline says that "All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this software must display the following..:" |
| 14:03.10 | trixter | I bet that asterisk 1.2.3 will be out within a few days mostly just changes in code comments and variable names to avoid any lciense issues |
| 14:03.16 | [TK]D-Fender | littleball : depends on your phone and your dial-plan (VoIP hard phones typically have a hard transfer button, others rely on DTMF) |
| 14:03.20 | oej | I don't think any marketing material mentions editline |
| 14:03.23 | zoa | oej, that doesnt seem to be a problem |
| 14:03.24 | zoa | true |
| 14:03.27 | zoa | i think the same |
| 14:03.29 | trixter | oej: wow that looks like an abbreviated version of what I pasted |
| 14:03.32 | zoa | or even features of editline |
| 14:03.45 | trixter | there are other places than that |
| 14:03.50 | trixter | that was just one example |
| 14:04.09 | oej | astDB also include DB version 1 with BSD license |
| 14:04.56 | iCEBrkr | trixter: Haven't you contributed a boat-load of asterisk code? |
| 14:04.59 | benjk | and why would they not just give credit |
| 14:05.03 | oej | The same license as editline |
| 14:05.07 | benjk | it doesn't cost them anything |
| 14:05.17 | benjk | its really childish not to give credit |
| 14:05.18 | littleball | i have E1 line channels, when asterisk receive a call from PSTN networks(because some PSTN user call one of my E1 line number), i would like to "forward" this call to other place so that other PSTN users still can call the same E1 line number... |
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| 14:05.26 | iCEBrkr | docelmo: werd, homie |
| 14:05.31 | oej | The credit file has been poorly maintained |
| 14:05.48 | littleball | just like server socket |
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| 14:05.57 | trixter | yeah why do half the copyright holders not exist in the credits file? |
| 14:05.59 | jake1932 | littleball: other place? |
| 14:06.02 | zeronature | anyone know what's my problem is?? |
| 14:06.03 | trixter | why try to keep the authors more secret like that |
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| 14:06.12 | oej | But blaim all of the Asterisk developer community, not just Digium |
| 14:06.13 | zeronature | i'm already post it at forum asterisk |
| 14:06.14 | *** join/#asterisk af_ (n=af@ip-142-84.sn1.eutelia.it) |
| 14:06.20 | trixter | especially in violation of even the editline license |
| 14:06.33 | trixter | they arent listed in the credits file, which I think its sec 1 maybe 2 of their license |
| 14:06.35 | jake1932 | littleball: you mean take call call totally off of your E1? |
| 14:06.40 | iCEBrkr | trixter: Cuz Mark wrote it all.. Geesh man.. |
| 14:06.41 | oej | We do not try to keep authors secret, if people submit patches to CREDIT that we agree to, we do submit them. |
| 14:06.41 | iCEBrkr | duh |
| 14:06.42 | littleball | jake1932, what i want is to make one of my E1 line number like TCP server socket. For TCP server socket, it receive a connection request |
| 14:07.03 | littleball | it create a socket and then continue to listen |
| 14:07.05 | jake1932 | littleball: I think what you're referring to is B2B xfer |
| 14:07.21 | littleball | jake1932, maybe what is B2B xfer? |
| 14:07.22 | zeronature | i'm using xlite software phone running on winxp |
| 14:07.38 | zeronature | and using asterisk 1.2 at fedora core 4 |
| 14:08.14 | littleball | jake1932, how does B2B xfer works? |
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| 14:08.28 | zeronature | Dec 22 19:47:07 NOTICE[14388]: chan_sip.c:10817 handle_request_register: Registration from 'Zaky <sip:zeronature@68.0.0.196>' failed for '68.0.0.127' - Username/auth name mismatch |
| 14:08.37 | benjk | ok, time to go to the pub and have a pint of Guinness |
| 14:08.38 | zeronature | have to edit sip.conf?? |
| 14:08.39 | jake1932 | littleball: i think you need a 5ESS switch at the CO |
| 14:08.47 | iCEBrkr | benjk: Have one for me too |
| 14:08.52 | [TK]D-Fender | zeronature : Its saying your softphone isn't using the right username or password. |
| 14:08.54 | benjk | hehe |
| 14:09.04 | trixter | wash your mouth out first |
| 14:09.07 | trixter | he doesnt want your germs |
| 14:09.08 | jake1932 | littleball: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+bounty+PRI+2B+channel+transfer |
| 14:09.10 | saftsack | [TK]D-Fender, why is there a 11? |
| 14:09.11 | [TK]D-Fender | zeronature : its as obvious a message as it sounds |
| 14:09.17 | [TK]D-Fender | saftsack : where? |
| 14:09.17 | littleball | thanks jake1932 |
| 14:09.21 | saftsack | _*11,1,Set |
| 14:09.21 | iCEBrkr | [TK]D-Fender: yea, really |
| 14:09.32 | zeronature | so what i need to do? |
| 14:09.33 | iCEBrkr | zeronature: it's telling you exactly what the problem is. |
| 14:09.39 | [TK]D-Fender | saftsack : Its just a sample dammit! Make the activate/deactivate codes whateve you want. |
| 14:09.39 | iCEBrkr | zeronature: you need to read the wiki |
| 14:09.41 | iCEBrkr | ~wiki |
| 14:09.43 | iCEBrkr | ~docs |
| 14:09.45 | jbot | [docs] probably Documentation can be found at http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk or http://www.asteriskdocs.org or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/asterisk or http://www.asteriskguru.com, or http://www.astmasters.net/howtos.html |
| 14:10.16 | zeronature | i'm really excited to find out |
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| 14:10.22 | [wiebel] | re |
| 14:10.31 | saftsack | [TK]D-Fender, is there something like if for the extensions.conf? |
| 14:10.50 | [TK]D-Fender | saftsack : Maybe you haven't been paying attention.... |
| 14:11.01 | [TK]D-Fender | [08:54] <[TK]D-Fender> and gotoif on that. |
| 14:11.11 | [TK]D-Fender | > GotoIf < |
| 14:11.32 | [TK]D-Fender | WIKIwikiWIKIwikiWIKIwikiWIKIwikiWIKIwiki |
| 14:11.33 | [TK]D-Fender | :D |
| 14:11.43 | iCEBrkr | hehe |
| 14:11.51 | zeronature | where to find wiki?? |
| 14:12.01 | [TK]D-Fender | Obey the jbot! |
| 14:12.02 | zeronature | sorry to ask..coz i'm really new user |
| 14:12.13 | iCEBrkr | [TK]D-Fender: I don't understand why people can't figure this shit out. I'm not all that smart and I leared how to configure my setup from the Wiki. |
| 14:12.13 | [TK]D-Fender | look up at [docs] |
| 14:12.39 | [TK]D-Fender | iCEBrkr: Yeah, I work well with programmers references. Gimme the commands and let ME choose where to use them. |
| 14:12.49 | [TK]D-Fender | Extensions really IS that simple. |
| 14:13.14 | iCEBrkr | [TK]D-Fender: I actually taught myself how to program flipping through the Turbo Pascal 5.5 language reference manual. |
| 14:13.26 | iCEBrkr | So I do the same for everything else |
| 14:13.40 | *** join/#asterisk Katty (n=angela@68.112.15.110) |
| 14:13.45 | iCEBrkr | Asterisk - documentation of application commands |
| 14:13.45 | [TK]D-Fender | iCEBrkr : I started much earlier with BASIC and continued with TP 5.5 and learned that straight from the help menu :) |
| 14:13.47 | Katty | morning lads. |
| 14:13.49 | iCEBrkr | That's my favorite page |
| 14:13.53 | iCEBrkr | Katty: ^5 |
| 14:14.07 | [TK]D-Fender | Katty : mew? |
| 14:14.10 | iCEBrkr | [TK]D-Fender: I can't remember how I learned BASIC |
| 14:14.22 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: mew? |
| 14:14.40 | [TK]D-Fender | :) |
| 14:14.59 | Katty | it's like babysitting. |
| 14:15.05 | Katty | don't touch that! don't download that! |
| 14:15.13 | Katty | don't put that in your mouth, you don't know where it's been! etc. |
| 14:15.21 | [TK]D-Fender | You're reloading... you ARE God to them :) |
| 14:15.34 | littleball | jake1932, it seems that asterisk cannot do such job, right? |
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| 14:15.43 | [TK]D-Fender | Katty: get your foot out of the gutter.... you're standing on my head :D |
| 14:15.48 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: the bossman's laptop kept bsodding. |
| 14:15.58 | jake1932 | littleball: with 5ESS it's supposed to be able to do it |
| 14:16.22 | [TK]D-Fender | Katty : Thats why I Ghost all of my systems here... just to save me the effort later.... |
| 14:16.24 | littleball | jake1932, just assumeing it is 5ESS switch, how to do? |
| 14:16.32 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: ghosting is good. |
| 14:16.46 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: but still have to do windows updates and other things. |
| 14:17.05 | [TK]D-Fender | Katty : true, but thts a quick batch compared to the barrage of apps I install. |
| 14:17.15 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: bossman doesn't have much, really. |
| 14:17.18 | [TK]D-Fender | I have a largely OSS system setup CD for my network. |
| 14:17.29 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: office xp, abbyyfine reader... |
| 14:17.38 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: some adobe pro stuff. |
| 14:17.45 | iCEBrkr | EEP! |
| 14:17.46 | jake1932 | littleball: i'd have to review the docs |
| 14:17.47 | iCEBrkr | HELP! |
| 14:17.59 | [TK]D-Fender | I give OOo, PDF writer, Acrobat, tons of CODEC's, NVu, GIMP, 7-ZIp, and TONS of other stuff |
| 14:18.01 | iCEBrkr | I started writing a PHP loop as |
| 14:18.09 | iCEBrkr | for x = 1 to 100 |
| 14:18.11 | jake1932 | littleball: maybe Transfer |
| 14:18.12 | [TK]D-Fender | lol |
| 14:18.21 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: ya, he doesn't use all that. |
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| 14:18.43 | littleball | jake1932, let me see |
| 14:18.44 | [TK]D-Fender | Katty : Thats never the point with me. Its a principals thing... |
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| 14:18.48 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: i probably don't use as much as you either.... |
| 14:18.55 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: but i use a good bit |
| 14:18.57 | iCEBrkr | IT's about the PRINCIPALITIES |
| 14:19.12 | Katty | iCEBrkr: weirdo. |
| 14:19.20 | iCEBrkr | Katty: I never claimed to be anything else. |
| 14:19.27 | Katty | iCEBrkr: k |
| 14:19.28 | fryfrog | is "Asterisk@Home" a reasonalbe way to explore Asterisk as a total PBX (but not linux) newb? |
| 14:19.35 | iCEBrkr | fryfrog: nope |
| 14:19.58 | iCEBrkr | fryfrog: I think Asterisk@home is more detremental to your learning of things :) |
| 14:20.09 | iCEBrkr | ...then again, I like to get my hands dirty. |
| 14:20.10 | fryfrog | i see |
| 14:20.26 | fryfrog | i agree with getting hands dirty, but i don't know *anythign* about corporate phone systems :) |
| 14:20.31 | Katty | it's like 98 compared to xp pro, fryfrog |
| 14:20.34 | fryfrog | do you suggest anything specific to read about? |
| 14:20.36 | Katty | it's horror. |
| 14:20.36 | iCEBrkr | fryfrog: I didn't either. |
| 14:20.44 | iCEBrkr | fryfrog: I'm not even really a 'telco' kinda guy.. |
| 14:20.59 | Katty | fryfrog: i didn't have a clue either...in fact, i had to go read about voIP first :P |
| 14:21.07 | iCEBrkr | fryfrog: Ok, so I used to phreak back when I was 15, so I had a little understanding about phone systems and telco stuff.. But that doesnt' mean anything :) |
| 14:21.09 | fryfrog | yes, that is the stage i'm at :) |
| 14:21.15 | fryfrog | i know what voip *is* but thats about it |
| 14:21.20 | Katty | fryfrog: excellent. |
| 14:21.26 | oej | trixter: Thank you for the discussion and the feedback :-) |
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| 14:21.31 | Katty | fryfrog: next step is to get yourself framilier with linux. |
| 14:21.39 | fryfrog | linux isn't a problme |
| 14:21.40 | robl^ | A@H is ok for a VERY VERY VERY basic setup, but the more complext the configuration, the more the more the AMP interface becomes a hinderence rather than an aid |
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| 14:21.45 | Katty | fryfrog: wonderful. |
| 14:21.49 | Katty | fryfrog: then you're all set! |
| 14:21.55 | mog_work | amen robl^ speak the truth |
| 14:22.03 | Katty | fryfrog: just go download/install asterisk and poke around at it |
| 14:22.27 | fryfrog | i guess what i'd like to read about is ... |
| 14:22.29 | fryfrog | bah, phone |
| 14:22.34 | iCEBrkr | fryfrog: Yea, Asterisk is editing a bunch of files and reading up on how to make it do karthweels. ;) |
| 14:22.44 | robl^ | I use A@H for quick and dirty installs.. then remove all A@H config files and add my own. :) |
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| 14:22.47 | iCEBrkr | fryfrog: http://www.voip-info.org |
| 14:22.59 | iCEBrkr | robl^: That's pretty dirty |
| 14:23.57 | robl^ | iCEBrkr: its for my test box that gets re-installed 20x a week :) production is different.. |
| 14:24.21 | Katty | god bless my caffinated soda. |
| 14:24.23 | iCEBrkr | I guess. |
| 14:24.26 | Katty | i am /social/ this morning! |
| 14:24.30 | Katty | how scary is that? |
| 14:24.32 | lo_tech | the 5ess can do a 'Transfer-Connect', but only on 800 numbers and then only if they have the feature associated with that 800#... and it's a fee each time it's used. |
| 14:24.33 | saftsack | [TK]D-Fender, exten => 157925,2GotoIf($[${DB(office/anrufbeantworter)} = 1]?anrufbeantworter |
| 14:24.43 | saftsack | does it now jumps to the context anrufbeantworter? |
| 14:24.51 | iCEBrkr | Katty: I just think it's one of those 3 days you're not PMSing |
| 14:24.54 | saftsack | if anrufbeantworter=1 ??? |
| 14:24.55 | iCEBrkr | >: ) |
| 14:25.04 | Katty | iCEBrkr: i PMS everyday, dear. |
| 14:25.09 | Katty | iCEBrkr: just to annoy you. |
| 14:25.12 | iCEBrkr | Katty: i think that's what I was saying. |
| 14:25.20 | [TK]D-Fender | saftsack : no, that'd look for a PRIORITY named that. |
| 14:25.32 | Katty | iCEBrkr: if it's any consolation to you, i got my neck out. |
| 14:25.35 | saftsack | ok |
| 14:25.37 | Katty | iCEBrkr: and it hurts. |
| 14:25.47 | iCEBrkr | I've been suffering from PMS since July 3rd. |
| 14:25.48 | [TK]D-Fender | exten => 157925,2GotoIf($[${DB(office/anrufbeantworter)}=1]?anrufbeantworter|s|1) |
| 14:25.54 | saftsack | thank you :) |
| 14:26.00 | Katty | iCEBrkr: aww, poor baby. |
| 14:26.03 | [TK]D-Fender | saftsack : that would jump to s,1 in that context |
| 14:26.17 | iCEBrkr | Katty: What'd you do? Your neck? huh? |
| 14:26.28 | Katty | iCEBrkr: i pulled a muscle in my neck. |
| 14:26.33 | Katty | iCEBrkr: hurts to rotate, etc. |
| 14:26.34 | iCEBrkr | Ow |
| 14:27.04 | iCEBrkr | Katty: I've been down that road. Can't turn your neck for shit. Makes it painful to drive cuz you can't check over your shoulder without turning at your torso |
| 14:27.29 | Katty | thank god i don't have kids. |
| 14:27.42 | lo_tech | go faster than everyone else and you wont have to look :P |
| 14:27.48 | Katty | lo_tech: silly. |
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| 14:28.01 | iCEBrkr | lo_tech: Exactly |
| 14:28.20 | iCEBrkr | Seriously, it's pretty dangerous to drive when you can't turn your head |
| 14:29.18 | trixter | when my father had cancer the 2nd time it was dangerous for him to be in a car for 6 months period |
| 14:29.43 | Katty | trixter: silly rabbit. |
| 14:29.52 | trixter | cause it was the 2nd vertebrae under his skull where the cancer was and he had to have a pin put in cause too much of the bone was gone, one accident even a slow speed one could have caused him to break his neck |
| 14:30.02 | trixter | katty: =^.^= |
| 14:30.10 | iCEBrkr | trixter: Geesh |
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| 14:30.21 | trixter | he had to wear a neck brace anytime he got into a car |
| 14:30.39 | trixter | basically a cervical collar, which meant he couldnt drive cause he couldnt turn his head at all |
| 14:30.42 | Katty | trixter: ))))= |
| 14:30.53 | saftsack | [TK]D-Fender, i copied this from a page, but that doesnt work :( |
| 14:30.54 | iCEBrkr | trixter: My friend had a two tumors in his lower back. So now it's not good for him to play basketball/football with us cuz there's no bone there anymore and any hits to that area could paralyze him. |
| 14:30.55 | saftsack | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:30.56 | trixter | Katty: you dont like my kitty drawing? |
| 14:31.08 | Katty | trixter: that's not very catlike. |
| 14:31.18 | Katty | trixter: =^@_@^= is more kittylike. |
| 14:31.18 | trixter | well after 6 or so months with the pin the bone grew around it, he is more or less fine now |
| 14:31.30 | trixter | depends on the cat :P |
| 14:31.31 | saftsack | no application 'Set' fpr extension (raus, 7, 1) |
| 14:31.34 | iCEBrkr | Katty: That cat looks like it saw a dog |
| 14:31.42 | trixter | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:31.44 | Katty | iCEBrkr: it saw /you/ |
| 14:31.50 | [TK]D-Fender | saftsack : pastebin it. I need deatils |
| 14:31.52 | iCEBrkr | Katty: Oh come'on, I'm not that scary looking |
| 14:31.53 | trixter | saftsack: what version? |
| 14:32.00 | saftsack | asterisk 1.1.0 |
| 14:32.00 | Katty | iCEBrkr: well someone has to pick on you. |
| 14:32.08 | Katty | iCEBrkr: if i'm pestering you, i'm leaving fender alone ;) |
| 14:32.11 | trixter | set/setvar are for 1.2 and 1.0 so you might be using the wrong one for the version you are running |
| 14:32.17 | iCEBrkr | Katty: ...On second thought maybe I am. I scared the crap outta a co-worker this morning. |
| 14:32.22 | saftsack | ok i paste my extensions.conf |
| 14:32.31 | [TK]D-Fender | saftsack : Are you on 1.2.x? |
| 14:32.34 | saftsack | no |
| 14:32.36 | saftsack | older asteirsk |
| 14:32.36 | iCEBrkr | Katty: You're only giving me crap cuz he's not here |
| 14:32.38 | iCEBrkr | err |
| 14:32.39 | Katty | haha, boss's laptop is being spammed. |
| 14:32.44 | iCEBrkr | Katty: there he is |
| 14:32.44 | trixter | saftsack: try setvar |
| 14:32.47 | saftsack | ok |
| 14:32.47 | [TK]D-Fender | saftsack : my sample was for 1.2.x |
| 14:32.52 | [TK]D-Fender | it won't work. |
| 14:32.52 | Katty | i have asterisk send a message with smbclient to computers. |
| 14:33.03 | Katty | and i forgot that i renamed a computer...and then gave boss's laptop that computer name |
| 14:33.05 | saftsack | yes but i think, that set should work for 1.1.0 too |
| 14:33.06 | [TK]D-Fender | trixter : he's working with ASTDB, setvar isn't it.... |
| 14:33.10 | iCEBrkr | Katty: LOL |
| 14:33.10 | Katty | so asterisk is now spamming boss's laptop with smbclient |
| 14:33.11 | Damin | iCEBrkr: WHAT IS UP DUDE? |
| 14:33.12 | trixter | ahh |
| 14:33.14 | [TK]D-Fender | saftsack : NO |
| 14:33.16 | iCEBrkr | Damin: Hey man! |
| 14:33.17 | trixter | I only saw the one line he posted so ... |
| 14:33.23 | jake1932 | 1.1??? |
| 14:33.23 | saftsack | ok ^^ |
| 14:33.26 | Katty | i should leave it on just to annoy the crap out of him ;) |
| 14:33.33 | Damin | iCEBrkr: How goes it in FLA? |
| 14:33.35 | iCEBrkr | Damin: bastard not calling me back! That's ok, I got it all under control... |
| 14:33.38 | trixter | jake1932: 1.odd is dev versions |
| 14:33.43 | jake1932 | ok |
| 14:33.49 | Katty | Damin: hi. |
| 14:33.49 | iCEBrkr | Damin: It's a balmy 47 degrees in Florida :-/ |
| 14:33.51 | [TK]D-Fender | saftsack : UPGRADE |
| 14:34.06 | saftsack | upgrade or setvar? |
| 14:34.13 | jake1932 | upgrade |
| 14:34.13 | Damin | Katty: Hey there... |
| 14:34.17 | saftsack | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:34.18 | saftsack | ok |
| 14:34.19 | [TK]D-Fender | saftsack : Upgrade your Asterisk install! |
| 14:34.19 | iCEBrkr | upgrade |
| 14:34.27 | saftsack | oh ^^ |
| 14:34.28 | saftsack | why? |
| 14:34.35 | jake1932 | haa |
| 14:34.38 | Katty | Damin: staying out of trouble? |
| 14:34.41 | saftsack | its a production environment |
| 14:34.46 | [TK]D-Fender | saftsack : because the DB cfunction doesn't even exist in your version! |
| 14:34.55 | saftsack | ohh hahahaha |
| 14:34.56 | saftsack | ^^ |
| 14:35.00 | Katty | horror. |
| 14:35.03 | saftsack | i asked that before |
| 14:35.04 | iCEBrkr | Damin: Got my TE100P working. Been doing some proof of concept tests and all the answering machine detection code seems to be working as intended! |
| 14:35.12 | [TK]D-Fender | You'd need to use DBGet / DBPut. Go read those on the WIKI. |
| 14:35.27 | saftsack | in 1.1.0? |
| 14:35.29 | iCEBrkr | Katty: Damin's married with kids, (err kid) he doesn't have time to get into trouble. |
| 14:35.48 | [TK]D-Fender | saftsack : yes. And what is 1.1.0 ? Not a version I've ever heard of.... |
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| 14:35.57 | Katty | iCEBrkr: pfft. |
| 14:36.07 | Katty | iCEBrkr: everyone has time to cause trouble. |
| 14:36.20 | iCEBrkr | PLUG IT IN THE VCR! DUMBASS |
| 14:36.28 | iCEBrkr | Those! Where the days of 'trouble' |
| 14:36.38 | *** join/#asterisk fugitivo (n=ajf@209.13.240.236) |
| 14:36.38 | iCEBrkr | Katty: :) |
| 14:37.04 | Katty | ok, i have a dumb question. |
| 14:37.07 | iCEBrkr | Dooobee-dooobee-doooo |
| 14:37.12 | iCEBrkr | Katty: No such thing. |
| 14:37.19 | Katty | when using FOP, i can tell that asterisk is holding a line open for some reason |
| 14:37.37 | Katty | like like 1 is always busy......yet no one is using it (analog) |
| 14:37.44 | Katty | s/like/line/ |
| 14:37.53 | saftsack | [TK]D-Fender, the older stableversion |
| 14:38.06 | Katty | usually, i stop asterisk and start it up again...and everything is all better. |
| 14:38.17 | Katty | but i'd /love/ to not stop asterisk to Fix It(tm) |
| 14:38.29 | *** join/#asterisk tdonahue (n=tdonahue@208.51.101.201) |
| 14:38.32 | Katty | and destroying zap channels is not good :< |
| 14:39.52 | saftsack | [TK]D-Fender, so it isnt possbile to handle db's in the old asterisk? |
| 14:40.08 | iCEBrkr | Katty: are you sure the line is 'locked'? |
| 14:40.16 | Katty | iCEBrkr: we can't dial out on it. |
| 14:40.20 | Katty | iCEBrkr: and nothing comes in on it |
| 14:40.31 | Katty | iCEBrkr: i view that as a line being held open. |
| 14:40.42 | Katty | iCEBrkr: like it was hungup properly or something |
| 14:40.43 | iCEBrkr | Katty: zap show channel <x> |
| 14:40.46 | iCEBrkr | have you done that? |
| 14:40.49 | Katty | iCEBrkr: yes. |
| 14:41.30 | Katty | iCEBrkr: i recall the last line, about hookstate, said offhook |
| 14:42.07 | iCEBrkr | whacked |
| 14:42.13 | Katty | Echo Cancellation: 64 taps, currently OFF <- wow, that sorta bothers me. |
| 14:42.28 | iCEBrkr | Echo Cancellation: 128 taps, currently OFF |
| 14:42.31 | iCEBrkr | :) |
| 14:42.38 | Katty | oh, off doesn't mean like...off off |
| 14:42.41 | Katty | just currently off |
| 14:42.46 | Katty | or something. |
| 14:42.54 | fugitivo | Katty: off is when channel is not being used |
| 14:43.22 | Katty | fugitivo: but what about echo cancellation currently off? |
| 14:43.34 | fugitivo | Katty: use the channel and it'll be ON |
| 14:43.43 | Katty | fugitivo: oh ah. kthen |
| 14:43.47 | fryfrog | Is there some place that might have typical usage cases for Asterisk? |
| 14:44.16 | saftsack | [TK]D-Fender, is it possible to do db things without 1.2.x? |
| 14:44.20 | Katty | fryfrog: ours is a little office. 8 lines and 10 phones. |
| 14:44.33 | Katty | fryfrog: well, more like 13 phones. |
| 14:44.58 | fugitivo | fryfrog: voip-info.org |
| 14:45.34 | Katty | 43 windows updates :< |
| 14:45.51 | Katty | 37 of which are High Priority and Critical Updates |
| 14:46.04 | *** part/#asterisk JaredBluestein (n=Jared@nwlnnhbas01-pool3-a32.nwlnnh.tds.net) |
| 14:46.10 | robl^ | 1 OS X update, 1 of which is minor |
| 14:46.23 | Katty | horror. |
| 14:46.29 | Katty | and all this rebooting. |
| 14:47.56 | *** join/#asterisk MikeJ[Laptop] (n=ircatjer@mi.origenfinancial.com) |
| 14:48.01 | Katty | hi mike. |
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| 14:49.18 | iCEBrkr | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:49.19 | backblue | anyone using Tiger3XX cards? |
| 14:49.24 | iCEBrkr | Yay! I get to deal with this again! |
| 14:50.30 | *** join/#asterisk h4mm3r` (n=h4mm3r@host214-51.pool8253.interbusiness.it) |
| 14:50.50 | robl^ | ODBC is evil! even MS has pretty much tried to kill it :) |
| 14:51.02 | fugitivo | yes |
| 14:51.04 | fugitivo | and mysql is evil too |
| 14:51.13 | *** part/#asterisk h4mm3r` (n=h4mm3r@host214-51.pool8253.interbusiness.it) |
| 14:51.18 | iCEBrkr | Well, Corydon made a sweet ODBC function module. |
| 14:51.33 | iCEBrkr | To keep any and all MySQL/SQL calls native to the dialplan. |
| 14:51.36 | ManxPower | Do you know the Muffin Man, the Muffin Man, the Muffin Man? |
| 14:51.37 | iCEBrkr | Since AGI is too damn slow |
| 14:51.48 | coppice | sweet and odbc do not belong together |
| 14:51.57 | robl^ | he module isn't bad.. it just dealing with the ODBC layer that is a pain in the bum |
| 14:52.06 | fugitivo | well, odbc is know to be not the best performance solution... |
| 14:52.10 | coppice | ManxPower: who lives on drury lane? |
| 14:52.23 | fugitivo | known |
| 14:52.37 | iCEBrkr | fugitivo: Well, it's still about 4x faster than AGI calls :) |
| 14:52.39 | backblue | anyone using tiger 3xx card? |
| 14:52.48 | fugitivo | iCEBrkr: i like text files :) |
| 14:53.02 | iCEBrkr | fugitivo: um, dude, I'm dealing with a database with over a million records. |
| 14:53.20 | iCEBrkr | and I could me writing up to 15000 rows. |
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| 14:53.22 | *** mode/#asterisk [+o anthm] by ChanServ |
| 14:53.36 | iCEBrkr | AGI won't scale. |
| 14:53.37 | [TK]D-Fender | saftsack : Again, watch what I'm saying -> [09:35] <[TK]D-Fender> You'd need to use DBGet / DBPut. Go read those on the WIKI. |
| 14:53.40 | *** join/#asterisk tzanger (n=tzanger@mixdown.ca) |
| 14:53.40 | iCEBrkr | Textfiles aren't DB friendly. |
| 14:53.41 | jake1932 | backblue: tiger 3xx? i have a TE110P that shows up as Tiger 3xx. are you talking about something different? |
| 14:53.52 | saftsack | [TK]D-Fender, ok |
| 14:53.54 | robl^ | iCEBrkr: use a custom app_* and do native DB calls :) |
| 14:54.00 | saftsack | but why are normal variables bad? |
| 14:54.03 | fugitivo | iCEBrkr: a million records for the dialplan?? |
| 14:54.08 | backblue | jake1932: hum let me see. |
| 14:54.12 | iCEBrkr | robl^: What do you think Corydon's code does? |
| 14:54.18 | tzanger | anthm, drumkilla, twisted ... SOMEONE remove that stupid +r |
| 14:54.25 | iCEBrkr | fugitivo: No, for customer info |
| 14:54.28 | backblue | jake1932: md3200 in my case. |
| 14:54.31 | robl^ | iCEBrkr: uses ODBC. :) |
| 14:54.34 | fugitivo | iCEBrkr: robl^ means using native mysql call, not odbc |
| 14:54.35 | *** mode/#asterisk [-r] by anthm |
| 14:54.38 | lo_tech | anyone have any experience with 'nsf=megacom' via PRI? |
| 14:54.38 | iCEBrkr | F that |
| 14:54.48 | iCEBrkr | Corydon code gets the job done |
| 14:55.03 | *** join/#asterisk Defraz (n=t0tal@72.24.26.215) |
| 14:55.14 | iCEBrkr | Plus, I'm only using MySQL for testing. |
| 14:55.19 | Corydon76-home | Eh? |
| 14:55.24 | iCEBrkr | This place is a MS-SQL shop :( |
| 14:55.32 | robl^ | it is all Corydon's fault |
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| 14:55.55 | jake1932 | backblue: a faxmodem? |
| 14:55.56 | iCEBrkr | I dunno, I actually like the ODBC Function stuff. |
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| 14:56.07 | iCEBrkr | Templating and all |
| 14:56.28 | fugitivo | iCEBrkr: postgresql! |
| 14:56.29 | iCEBrkr | So I don't have SQL scattered throughout my dialplan. |
| 14:56.49 | backblue | jake1932: i dunno, it is? |
| 14:56.57 | fryfrog | wow, lotta info at voip-info.org :) |
| 14:57.02 | jake1932 | backblue: what are you trying to do? |
| 14:57.05 | iCEBrkr | fugitivo: Can't man. |
| 14:57.07 | fryfrog | can asterisk record phone calls? |
| 14:57.11 | fugitivo | fryfrog: yes, but don't believe all you read :) |
| 14:57.12 | iCEBrkr | fryfrog: yeah |
| 14:57.24 | iCEBrkr | I read it on the internet, it must be true |
| 14:57.32 | fugitivo | fryfrog: you can record and spy |
| 14:57.45 | fryfrog | man, that'd be nice... |
| 14:57.48 | Corydon76-home | The big advantage of templates is that you have to worry about syntax errors a whole lot less |
| 14:57.54 | backblue | jake1932: puting asterisk to work with this, i think its a modem. its Ambient md3200, its detected as a tiger 3xx card. |
| 14:58.05 | fryfrog | i would *love* to call communist cast and say "hey, here is a *recording* of us speaking with your tech about this issue 3 months ago" |
| 14:58.07 | fugitivo | fryfrog: asterisk is a complete pbx |
| 14:58.08 | fryfrog | SMACK! |
| 14:58.20 | Corydon76-home | Fix them one place, and everywhere else you reference the template |
| 14:58.26 | iCEBrkr | Corydon76-home: amen |
| 14:58.38 | fugitivo | fryfrog: remember that recording is illegal in some countries |
| 14:58.51 | iCEBrkr | Corydon76-home: the only draw-back is having to get this damn ODBC shit setup right. |
| 14:58.52 | fryfrog | for someone setting up asterisk in their home, would one typically use a few ATAs or buy some decent IP phones? |
| 14:59.02 | Corydon76-home | True enough |
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| 14:59.06 | fryfrog | fugitivo: I would preface the answering system with "Calls may be monitored or recorded" |
| 14:59.06 | fugitivo | fryfrog: what's your budget? |
| 14:59.10 | jake1932 | but if you're a US president, you can record whoever you want |
| 14:59.21 | iCEBrkr | fryfrog: I prefer ATAs with a nice cordless phone |
| 14:59.25 | lo_tech | jake1932: /smack |
| 14:59.28 | Corydon76-home | but it's the only way to do this portably, to an acceptable number of databases |
| 14:59.29 | fryfrog | fugitivo: I am merely reading, so i'm pretty flexible |
| 14:59.31 | Equinox | Depending on the state only 1 party must be aware it's being recorded. |
| 14:59.42 | iCEBrkr | Corydon76-home: I hear ya. I'm not complaining. (much) |
| 14:59.43 | robl^ | Corydon: I think its a good idea.. I just have a loathing of ODBC.. I wouldn't mind a native version of calls using templating.. MySQL or PostgreSQL based :) Its just the middle ODBC layer that I loathe |
| 14:59.47 | jake1932 | backblue: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+hardware |
| 14:59.49 | fryfrog | I don't want to *secretly* record the calls |
| 14:59.57 | iCEBrkr | robl^: It's not my favorite either |
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| 15:00.02 | [TK]D-Fender | fryfrog : ATA's area a great cheap way to get set up. Both for bringing in your analog line and for extensions. |
| 15:00.10 | fryfrog | I just want to by default record all calls, perhaps being able to turn it off with a *70 type thing |
| 15:00.23 | Equinox | [TK]D-Fender - How much are they running now? |
| 15:00.28 | [TK]D-Fender | For those I suggest only Sipura's line (unless its a larger install that warrant a greater expense) |
| 15:00.36 | fugitivo | fryfrog: if you have low budget, an x100p clone (for pstn $20) and a pap2-na (ata 2 fxs $60-$70) will be enough |
| 15:00.40 | Corydon76-home | robl^: and what about those of us who have to use SQL Server? |
| 15:00.41 | lo_tech | fryfrog: how many concurrent recordings? |
| 15:00.52 | iCEBrkr | Ohio law states only 1 of the parties on the phone call needs to know the call is recorded. |
| 15:00.53 | fryfrog | lo_tech: probably just 1 |
| 15:00.54 | [TK]D-Fender | Equinox : SPA-2002 (2 fxs) 80$, SPA-3000 (1fxs, 1 FXO) $100 |
| 15:01.09 | Equinox | [TK]D-Fender - Oh yeah.. I havea a SPA-3000. Great box. |
| 15:01.10 | [TK]D-Fender | er, $70 for teh SPA-2002 |
| 15:01.10 | fryfrog | i think i need to read what fxo and fxs are :) |
| 15:01.12 | [TK]D-Fender | my bad |
| 15:01.17 | fugitivo | iCEBrkr: really? that's silly |
| 15:01.20 | Equinox | [TK]D-Fender, I though u were maybe talking about some $20 thingy ;) |
| 15:01.28 | fugitivo | ~fxsfxo |
| 15:01.30 | jbot | fxsfxo is, like, An FXO port expects to receive dialtone and receive ring voltage. An FXS port expects to provide dialtone and provide ring voltage. |
| 15:01.31 | lo_tech | fryfrog: o, np... we're doing up to 480 concurrents using zap, so it'd do-able |
| 15:01.35 | [TK]D-Fender | iCEBrkr : I though it was both parties in the US... |
| 15:01.42 | fugitivo | fryfrog: read what jbot said |
| 15:01.45 | Equinox | IF anyone gets SPA-3000.. Upgrade the firmware.. The newer firmware is so much better. |
| 15:01.47 | fryfrog | I *think* I would want each "phone" in the house to be an extension, but probably only 2-3 phones |
| 15:01.50 | iCEBrkr | fugitivo: I belivee that's how it works. |
| 15:01.56 | iCEBrkr | [TK]D-Fender: It's by state. |
| 15:02.00 | jake1932 | Equinox: as of? |
| 15:02.00 | [TK]D-Fender | ah |
| 15:02.09 | Equinox | Hmm.. I got mine 4 months ago |
| 15:02.20 | jake1932 | Equinox: no echo? |
| 15:02.22 | Equinox | The firmware it came with didn't treat FXO/FXS as completely independent |
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| 15:02.27 | Equinox | The newer one did |
| 15:02.28 | robl^ | and what happens when caller 1 is in Ohio and Caller 2 is in another state? |
| 15:02.38 | Equinox | I don't get echo |
| 15:02.43 | fugitivo | robl^: good question |
| 15:02.50 | iCEBrkr | robl^: I believe it matters where the call is being recorded :) |
| 15:02.57 | iCEBrkr | robl^: At least that was my 'out' if I ever got busted. |
| 15:03.02 | [TK]D-Fender | Equinox : rare echo on my side. the SPA-3000 is an amazing little box. practically a PBX in its won right... |
| 15:03.04 | iCEBrkr | The PBX is located in Ohio. |
| 15:03.04 | fugitivo | robl^: what happens when caller 1 is in the US and caller 2 in another country? :) |
| 15:03.07 | saftsack | howto check, that there is now active call on my line that can lead to immense costs? |
| 15:03.11 | [TK]D-Fender | s/won/own |
| 15:03.12 | fryfrog | where do i find those "SPA-???" in voip-info.org? |
| 15:03.22 | [TK]D-Fender | fryfrog : depends where you live. |
| 15:03.23 | Equinox | [TK]D-Fender, Yes I'm very impressed with it. |
| 15:03.28 | [TK]D-Fender | fryfrog : online stores. |
| 15:03.29 | jake1932 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:03.30 | saftsack | so i mean howto determine, that i have a SAFE config? |
| 15:03.32 | Corydon76-home | robl^: in fact, I built the templated SQL for SQL Server, because I didn't want to have to be constantly altering a C program and recompiling... ;-) |
| 15:03.36 | [TK]D-Fender | www.voipsupply.com |
| 15:03.37 | fryfrog | no no, i mean to read about what they are thats all |
| 15:03.45 | robl^ | iCEBrkr: and are they "phone calls" if they are VoIP? the FCC seems to still be debating that one :) |
| 15:03.51 | [TK]D-Fender | fryfrog : yeah, the WIKI has lots of info about them |
| 15:03.51 | jake1932 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:03.59 | fugitivo | ~docs |
| 15:04.01 | jbot | i heard docs is probably Documentation can be found at http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk or http://www.asteriskdocs.org or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/asterisk or http://www.asteriskguru.com, or http://www.astmasters.net/howtos.html |
| 15:04.01 | [TK]D-Fender | www.sipura.com |
| 15:04.01 | fryfrog | but what section are they under? |
| 15:04.02 | iCEBrkr | robl^: haha |
| 15:04.10 | fugitivo | fryfrog: there you are |
| 15:04.13 | [TK]D-Fender | fryfrog : just doa search for Sipura ATA |
| 15:04.16 | jake1932 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:04.17 | [TK]D-Fender | on the wiki |
| 15:04.22 | fugitivo | on the docs |
| 15:04.26 | fryfrog | k |
| 15:04.26 | iCEBrkr | robl^: I guess it only matters in the end--- what you're gonna do with those recorded calls. |
| 15:04.39 | *** join/#asterisk IronHelix (n=irc@ool-45785cfe.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 15:04.42 | fryfrog | actually, just knowing they are ATAs is enough i think |
| 15:04.58 | iCEBrkr | robl^: My mind is so burned out, I forget a lot of things. So when I make 'important' calls, It's nice to record them so I have a reference as to what I said and what the other person claimed. |
| 15:05.05 | robl^ | iCEBrkr: blackmail a rich personality with the call to a 900 "adult service"? |
| 15:05.07 | fryfrog | one would need *one* ATA device per phone correct? (if you wanted to do each phone as an extension?) |
| 15:05.23 | jake1932 | depends on the num of ports |
| 15:05.28 | jake1932 | per ATA |
| 15:05.29 | Equinox | fryfrog- The Sipura 2xFXS would handle two phones? |
| 15:05.30 | [TK]D-Fender | fryfrog : FXS ATA's are for pluggin in phones to use as extensions, FXO ATA's (or gateways) let you plung in LINES so that your PBX can use your analog phone lines. |
| 15:05.31 | iCEBrkr | robl^: Yea, see, that's when the legallity of recording phone call becomes a problem. |
| 15:05.36 | fryfrog | Ahhhh, i see |
| 15:05.43 | *** join/#asterisk ard (n=ard@2001:7b8:32d:0:20c:6eff:fe18:d11f) |
| 15:05.45 | fryfrog | ah, that makes sense |
| 15:05.55 | fryfrog | so a FXO/FXS would have 1 port of each |
| 15:05.57 | [TK]D-Fender | fryfrog : you could put your whole home's phones on the same ATA, its jsut that they'd all be the same exztension and ring at once. |
| 15:06.02 | fryfrog | so it could handle a line in *and* 1 phone |
| 15:06.10 | fryfrog | ahh, i see |
| 15:06.17 | [TK]D-Fender | fryfrog : correct. The SPA-3000 takes in your home line, and also gives you a seperate extension. |
| 15:06.19 | *** join/#asterisk synthetiq (n=roger@64.201.13.50) |
| 15:06.22 | Equinox | fryfrog, Yes I use my FXO/FXS both to 1. Power my phone (line 1) and 2. To route outgoing calls from asterisk if I'm feeling fancy (via sip) |
| 15:06.32 | jake1932 | well 1 phone or group of phones with the same extension |
| 15:06.35 | [TK]D-Fender | fryfrog : it also acts as a failover in case of a power failure. |
| 15:06.49 | iCEBrkr | Warning, flexibel rate not heavily tested! |
| 15:06.50 | iCEBrkr | huh? |
| 15:06.58 | Equinox | fryfrog, And if you're fancier than me you can put in a dialplan to control when you do FXS->FXO direct and when you hit asterisk |
| 15:07.00 | fryfrog | i see, so one would probably want an SPA 3000 near your point of entry |
| 15:07.06 | jake1932 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:07.20 | Equinox | fryfrog, Such as 911 direct to the FXO port. |
| 15:07.24 | [TK]D-Fender | Equinox : Thats ugly though :) Let * do its job :) |
| 15:07.25 | iCEBrkr | It was in the middle of the ODBC function connection phase. |
| 15:07.25 | fryfrog | ahhh |
| 15:07.36 | [TK]D-Fender | Equinox : ok, MAYBE for that reason :) |
| 15:07.36 | *** join/#asterisk devel (n=devel@wiggum.digitalcoven.com) |
| 15:07.41 | jake1932 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:07.45 | fryfrog | are there any 4-8 port FXS? |
| 15:07.47 | Equinox | [TK]D-Fender, I just have a 2xline phone.. If I want a call out on the local 'fxo' I hit line 2. |
| 15:07.56 | fryfrog | er, lemme read :) |
| 15:07.58 | Equinox | If I want VOIP I hit line 1. |
| 15:08.00 | jake1932 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:08.10 | [TK]D-Fender | Equinox : nifty idea if you had the phone already.... |
| 15:08.17 | Equinox | Phone was $40 or so |
| 15:08.20 | [TK]D-Fender | cool. |
| 15:08.23 | Equinox | And I had it already :) |
| 15:08.27 | iCEBrkr | That's weird tho showing up right when the ODBC DSN's go to connect |
| 15:08.30 | Equinox | Was the only one with a headset they had. |
| 15:08.41 | jake1932 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:08.45 | iCEBrkr | maybe |
| 15:09.07 | *** join/#asterisk Seldon1975 (n=someone@CPE0013105d0913-CM0014e8b6162c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 15:09.21 | jake1932 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:09.47 | iCEBrkr | jake1932: I only noticed it just now when starting asterisk -cvvvvv |
| 15:09.48 | *** join/#asterisk tux4pres (n=bsdvstux@24-155-81-66.ip.grandenetworks.net) |
| 15:10.12 | tux4pres | Can anybody help me with an inbound routing schedule question? |
| 15:10.26 | jake1932 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:10.44 | *** join/#asterisk olivier_ (n=olivier_@obs92-4-82-239-116-113.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 15:10.58 | iCEBrkr | jake1932: Not too worried about it. I won't be using it. |
| 15:11.34 | *** join/#asterisk nesys (n=nesys@2001:1418:1a6:0:20d:93ff:fe28:3ef8) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 15:11.56 | *** join/#asterisk ard (n=ard@2001:7b8:32d:0:20c:6eff:fe18:d11f) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 15:12.19 | [TK]D-Fender | tux4pres : just ask and we'll see what we can do |
| 15:12.46 | tux4pres | I am using A@H 2.x...I wrote a bash AGI script that checks the current day/time in order for my [custom-schedule] context to determine whether we are open or not and play the appropriate message or route to a ring group.... |
| 15:13.02 | *** part/#asterisk oej (n=olle@apollo.webway.se) |
| 15:13.07 | tux4pres | my question is, how do I add this [custom-context] to all incoming calls without breaking the AMP GUI? |
| 15:13.16 | jake1932 | you wrote an AGI to do that? |
| 15:13.25 | jake1932 | i think there is a dialplan cmd |
| 15:13.32 | tux4pres | GoToIfTime() |
| 15:14.02 | tux4pres | how do I add taht and bypass the AMP incoming calls section? |
| 15:14.20 | fugitivo | tux4pres: don't use asterisk@home and you'll know how to do that |
| 15:14.23 | iCEBrkr | Don't use Asterisk*Home nor AMP :) |
| 15:14.28 | fugitivo | lol |
| 15:14.29 | iCEBrkr | fugitivo: ^5 |
| 15:14.30 | fryfrog | So if one wanted to go with IP phones instead of ATA devices, what are decent options? In theory, a "phone" could be in another location and configured to connect to asterisk correct? |
| 15:14.34 | tux4pres | he he...true true |
| 15:14.48 | Equinox | What is asterisk*home anyway? I always used asterisk |
| 15:14.58 | fryfrog | its a linux distro on cd with asterisk |
| 15:14.59 | tux4pres | fugitivo,iCEBrker: I am using A@H for a friend who wants a GUI |
| 15:15.03 | jake1932 | fryfrog: cisco 79xx, polycom makes some |
| 15:15.03 | tux4pres | it works for them |
| 15:15.18 | fryfrog | like knoppmyth |
| 15:15.20 | jake1932 | fryfrog: there is a 941 i've heard about |
| 15:15.20 | tux4pres | I don't want to have to ngo in and change/add extensions for them all the time |
| 15:15.29 | iCEBrkr | Currently, every GUI for Asterisk sucks is just plain WRONG |
| 15:15.35 | Katty | i'm rich! |
| 15:15.36 | iCEBrkr | You don't use a webpage for an operator panel |
| 15:15.39 | [TK]D-Fender | fryfrog : Cisco = overpriced. I suggest either SPA-941, or any Polycom. |
| 15:15.43 | Katty | iCEBrkr: i do. |
| 15:15.45 | Katty | iCEBrkr: it's flash. |
| 15:15.46 | fugitivo | asterisk@home is a try of doing a complex system into a userfriendly system, obviusly, without success, because people using asterisk@home, have more problems that people not using it |
| 15:15.47 | robl^ | Equinox: A@H is A custom Linux distro with Asterisk, a bunh of add-ons, and a web interface to configure it. Installs all in one go |
| 15:15.48 | iCEBrkr | Katty: You just turned a few tricks? |
| 15:15.51 | fryfrog | SPA-941, is that siphura? |
| 15:15.52 | Equinox | I love my polycom IP500 |
| 15:15.55 | lo_tech | fryfrog, yes... a phone may be at a differerent location than the * server... but watch out for NAT, jitter, and rtt |
| 15:15.57 | Katty | iCEBrkr: it's FOP. |
| 15:16.01 | Katty | iCEBrkr: it's dreamy when it works. |
| 15:16.04 | Equinox | Kind of a learning curve(2 hours) for the first one.. But subsequent ones are quick. |
| 15:16.04 | iCEBrkr | Katty: FOP is gay |
| 15:16.08 | Katty | iCEBrkr: i like gay. |
| 15:16.11 | fryfrog | jitter and ftt? |
| 15:16.11 | iCEBrkr | Katty: oh yeah |
| 15:16.12 | [TK]D-Fender | fryfrog : Linksys/Sipura, yes. (they got bought-out |
| 15:16.12 | Katty | iCEBrkr: i practically am gay |
| 15:16.14 | iCEBrkr | oops |
| 15:16.15 | iCEBrkr | sorry |
| 15:16.21 | iCEBrkr | afk |
| 15:16.36 | Katty | silly. |
| 15:16.39 | tux4pres | iCEBrker: I under A@H sucks...I just need a way for them to be ablet to add/remove extensions withotu calling me..so basically, you are not aware of anyway of doing a custom from-pstn dialplan without letting the AMP GUI override it? |
| 15:16.45 | Equinox | Actually my IP500 is on it's way to Japan with a friend of mine. :) |
| 15:16.57 | Katty | japan scares me. |
| 15:17.04 | Equinox | Why? |
| 15:17.08 | Katty | with it's insanely huge cities. |
| 15:17.10 | Katty | and high techness. |
| 15:17.16 | fugitivo | tux4pres: the mayority of us know nothing about amp or asterisk@home |
| 15:17.21 | Equinox | You're in a VoIP channel and high tech scares you? |
| 15:17.28 | Katty | obviously. |
| 15:17.35 | fryfrog | haha |
| 15:17.36 | tux4pres | fugitivo,iCEBrker: than you both, I apologize for the stupid question |
| 15:17.47 | Equinox | They have good sushi . . |
| 15:17.49 | *** part/#asterisk brettnem (n=brettnem@72.29.102.158) |
| 15:17.52 | Equinox | Sushi scare you? |
| 15:17.52 | [TK]D-Fender | tux4pres : hardly stupid.... |
| 15:17.55 | Katty | tux4pres: twisted[asteria] knows a bit about asterisk@home |
| 15:17.59 | fugitivo | tux4pres: it's not a stupid question, maybe you're in the wrong channel, try #amportal |
| 15:18.02 | Katty | tux4pres: however, he hates it ;) |
| 15:18.10 | tux4pres | he he |
| 15:18.12 | robl^ | japan is the only place that has smart chips and artificial inteligence built into the toilet issue :) |
| 15:18.17 | Katty | Equinox: i don't eat sushi |
| 15:18.20 | tux4pres | yeah, I tried the ampportal channel but no one will respond...he he |
| 15:18.28 | *** join/#asterisk brettnem (n=brettnem@72.29.102.158) |
| 15:18.30 | Equinox | But does it scare you? |
| 15:18.52 | Katty | Equinox: it's not vegan. |
| 15:18.52 | [TK]D-Fender | robl^ : Gives new meaning to "shit for brains" |
| 15:18.52 | Katty | Equinox: sushi makes me sad. |
| 15:18.52 | brettnem | hey guys |
| 15:18.52 | jake1932 | no question - you'll always get a response here when asking about @home or AMP |
| 15:19.02 | Equinox | Katty- Sushi literally translated means 'vinegar rice'. So it can be vegan. |
| 15:19.13 | Equinox | Katty- As I'm pretty sure rice, and vinegar are vegan friendly. |
| 15:19.19 | Katty | Equinox: they are. |
| 15:19.21 | [TK]D-Fender | Equinox : indeed. I just made 5 rolls last night for my company pot-luck lunch :) |
| 15:19.28 | iCEBrkr | tux4pres: When I get off my lazy butt and finish my Asterisk control panel.... No one will have to worry about stupid webpages and flash interfaces |
| 15:19.28 | Katty | Equinox: every sushi i've seen down here has raw fish in it. |
| 15:19.29 | fugitivo | tux4pres: well, i don't know about amp, but if it's a gui, and doesn't have the option you need, you'll need to modify the gui |
| 15:19.32 | fryfrog | Know the diff between SPA-841 and 941? |
| 15:19.33 | Equinox | [TK]D-Fender, Cool :) It's hard to make them pretty. |
| 15:19.35 | fryfrog | about 100? :) |
| 15:19.38 | robl^ | [TK]D-Fender: *beep* Don't forget to wipe front to back. *beep* remember to wash your hands.. *beep* you have used 4 squares thank you! |
| 15:19.39 | jake1932 | http://voipspeak.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=41&Itemid=27 |
| 15:19.44 | [TK]D-Fender | Equinox : Nah! |
| 15:19.46 | Equinox | Katty- I doubt it. Many have cooked fish but people assume it's raw. |
| 15:19.46 | fugitivo | iCEBrkr: i only use web applications |
| 15:19.51 | Seldon1975 | D-Fender are you by any chance an Australian? |
| 15:19.56 | jake1932 | fryrog - for you |
| 15:19.59 | Equinox | Katty- The vegan stuff is less common but every restaurant I go to has it. |
| 15:20.07 | tux4pres | iCEBrker: that is cool you are writing an interface. what ar eyou writing it in? |
| 15:20.27 | iCEBrkr | fugitivo: I 'guess' it could be a webpage.. But webpages are limited. |
| 15:20.35 | brettnem | hey if I change rxgain and txgain settings in zapata.conf.. what do I need to do to reload those settings? Reload the kernel module, chan_zap, ?? any ideas? help |
| 15:20.41 | iCEBrkr | But for 'professional grade' stuff. Web apps are retarded. |
| 15:20.46 | robl^ | sushi is NOT raw fish.. :) sushi has to do with the rice and being rolled up :) |
| 15:20.53 | iCEBrkr | Since everyone wants a webpage that acts like a windows app |
| 15:20.53 | fugitivo | iCEBrkr: ajax is great for that "limited" stuff |
| 15:20.58 | Equinox | robl- And vinegar in the rice. ;) |
| 15:21.01 | Equinox | Just a bit. |
| 15:21.04 | Seldon1975 | Sashimi is raw fish. mmmmmmmmm |
| 15:21.05 | fugitivo | brettnem: restart |
| 15:21.08 | Equinox | Yep. |
| 15:21.09 | iCEBrkr | fugitivo: Why bother with a hack when you can just do it the right way?? |
| 15:21.13 | brettnem | fugitivo: restart what? |
| 15:21.25 | brettnem | fugitivo: so I don't need to reload the kernel module? just chan_zap? |
| 15:21.33 | fugitivo | iCEBrkr: why ajax is a hack? |
| 15:21.40 | iCEBrkr | fugitivo: I've been doing this web application dev for the better part of 8yrs. and it just sucks. Everyone wants their web pages to act, look and feel like a windows app, so why not just make it a windows app to being with?! |
| 15:21.47 | *** join/#asterisk thome (i=tm@mebes.info) |
| 15:21.49 | thome | hello |
| 15:21.55 | tux4pres | iCEBrkr: I wanted to write an asterisk control app with the Wi.Ser framework....with that middleware you could deploy it as a fat client or a swing thin client without any code modification |
| 15:22.00 | fryfrog | I assume pretty low end hardware is a-okay? Something in the 500mhz, 256mb, 10-50G HD range? Asterisk only? |
| 15:22.01 | iCEBrkr | fugitivo: Because AJAX is a hack. |
| 15:22.02 | thome | i have a error:Dec 22 16:20:02 ERROR[19096]: chan_misdn.c:3467 load_module: Unable to initialize mISDN |
| 15:22.05 | thome | Dec 22 16:20:02 WARNING[19096]: loader.c:414 __load_resource: chan_misdn.so: load_module failed, returning -1 |
| 15:22.08 | thome | Dec 22 16:20:02 WARNING[19096]: loader.c:499 load_modules: Loading module chan_misdn.so failed! |
| 15:22.11 | thome | any ideas for me? |
| 15:22.15 | fugitivo | iCEBrkr: a hack with great success :) |
| 15:22.18 | jake1932 | fryfrog: yes |
| 15:22.21 | Equinox | fryfrog, My understanding is only transcoding will boost your hardware requirements. |
| 15:22.23 | iCEBrkr | fugitivo: It only took 4yrs |
| 15:22.35 | fugitivo | iCEBrkr: because also microsoft is moving to web apps, look at the new office |
| 15:22.38 | iCEBrkr | XMLHTTP was an IE only thing way back in the day |
| 15:22.38 | jake1932 | fryfrog: for a couple of phones, you should be fine |
| 15:22.43 | fryfrog | favorite linux distro to use with it? |
| 15:22.48 | Katty | uh oh |
| 15:22.50 | Equinox | I like debian. |
| 15:22.52 | fugitivo | fryfrog: the one you like most |
| 15:22.54 | Equinox | And ubuntu |
| 15:22.55 | fryfrog | i'd probably go with gentoo, but i'm flexible |
| 15:22.55 | iCEBrkr | fugitivo: Becuase M$ is doing it?? LOL peer pressure |
| 15:22.58 | Equinox | Actually I like ubuntu more now. |
| 15:23.07 | Seldon1975 | iCebreaker: "so why not just make it a windows app to being with?!" people dont want to install stuff if they can avoid it |
| 15:23.23 | Seldon1975 | for one |
| 15:23.28 | Equinox | iCEBreaker: 3 letters: DLL |
| 15:23.32 | backblue | i need zapata module for using one x100p clone? |
| 15:23.33 | iCEBrkr | Seldon1975: Umm. Stay in context |
| 15:23.40 | iCEBrkr | Equinox: .NET doesn't care about that crap anymore. |
| 15:23.43 | fugitivo | iCEBrkr: the true is that in a near future, we'll all be using diskless terminals with web apps, maybe not at home, but yes at companies |
| 15:23.49 | fryfrog | debian sounds like a good idea, are there any X requirements for *? |
| 15:23.52 | iCEBrkr | Seldon1975: I'm talking about integrating apps with Asterisk |
| 15:23.56 | fugitivo | fryfrog: no X |
| 15:24.03 | tux4pres | Seldon1975: I agree with iCEBrkr on the web-only revolution..to minimize install just make it easier...take a look at WebStart's jnlps for example |
| 15:24.03 | fugitivo | fryfrog: don't install X in your asterisk machine |
| 15:24.04 | Equinox | iCEBrkr - How well does .NET run under linux?(mono) |
| 15:24.04 | iCEBrkr | fugitivo: ain't happening |
| 15:24.16 | iCEBrkr | Equinox: Who cares about Linux |
| 15:24.19 | Seldon1975 | iCE: I dont see my comment as out of context |
| 15:24.20 | fugitivo | iCEBrkr: some companies are using that schema right now |
| 15:24.21 | Equinox | Me. |
| 15:24.24 | iCEBrkr | Equinox: I can't really say that, since I'm a linux junky |
| 15:24.25 | Equinox | I do server side stuff a lot. |
| 15:24.29 | fryfrog | and debian has debs? stable, unstable or testing of deb? |
| 15:24.42 | jake1932 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:24.44 | Equinox | And one of the devs I work with does .NET stuff I'm wondering about it running on the linux server |
| 15:24.56 | fugitivo | fryfrog: don't use packages, use the sources and compile :) |
| 15:24.58 | iCEBrkr | fugitivo: are you saying that the PBX your company is using ( if it's not Asterisk ) doens't have a DOS or Windows frontend? |
| 15:24.59 | jake1932 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:25.04 | *** join/#asterisk marv[work] (n=timr@64.89.118.139) |
| 15:25.07 | Katty | Got SIP response 500 "Internal Server Error" back from 192.etc |
| 15:25.11 | fryfrog | fugitivo: humm, sounds like a good reason to use gentoo then ;) |
| 15:25.12 | Katty | ^- what's that mean? |
| 15:25.12 | jake1932 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:25.23 | brettnem | so zapata.conf changes require a chan_zap.so reload? |
| 15:25.25 | fugitivo | fryfrog: gentoo is good |
| 15:25.30 | jake1932 | Katty: look in the server logs |
| 15:25.31 | fugitivo | fryfrog: or lfs ;) |
| 15:25.35 | ManxPower | ~docs |
| 15:25.36 | jbot | from memory, docs is probably Documentation can be found at http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk or http://www.asteriskdocs.org or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/asterisk or http://www.asteriskguru.com, or http://www.astmasters.net/howtos.html |
| 15:25.36 | jake1932 | Katty it's generic |
| 15:25.38 | Katty | jake1932: that takes too much effort |
| 15:25.38 | fugitivo | iCEBrkr: web interface |
| 15:25.39 | ManxPower | ~mailinglist |
| 15:25.41 | jbot | it has been said that mailinglist is Search Asterisk mailing lists by prepending site:lists.digium.com to your Google search. Browse the mailing list archive at http://lists.digium.com/ or search through it at http://www.asteriskguru.com/archives/search.php, or and there is also the Macintosh Asterisk mailing list at http://www.astmasters.net/maml.html |
| 15:25.41 | Katty | jake1932: k |
| 15:25.48 | iCEBrkr | fugitivo: Sure it does. |
| 15:25.56 | Beirdo | ~beer |
| 15:25.58 | jbot | extra, extra, read all about it, beer is ummm, ummm good!, or good for you!... not just for breakfast anymore |
| 15:26.02 | iCEBrkr | Hell, most PBX's still run OS/2 |
| 15:26.05 | tzafrir_laptop | brettnem, actually they may require a total restart of Asterisk. Maybe a reload will do on 1.2, I'm not sure |
| 15:26.09 | fryfrog | http://fryfrog.com/wordpress/v/Miscellaneous/DespairLinux/ |
| 15:26.10 | ManxPower | Katty, Using Polycoms? They give that error, but seem to work gine. |
| 15:26.10 | fugitivo | iCEBrkr: i don't like the idea of intalling software, that's all |
| 15:26.14 | fryfrog | someone should make one for LFS :) |
| 15:26.16 | iCEBrkr | fugitivo: Me either. |
| 15:26.18 | Katty | ManxPower: (= |
| 15:26.33 | fugitivo | fryfrog: i did |
| 15:26.34 | iCEBrkr | fugitivo: But if it's a 'net appliance' such as an Asterisk box for a PBX. What's to install?? |
| 15:26.45 | fryfrog | show me! |
| 15:26.54 | iCEBrkr | There's a much bigger picture here with Asterisk. I'm not quite sure why everyone doesn't think bg. |
| 15:26.54 | fugitivo | fryfrog: not ready for the public yet :) |
| 15:26.57 | iCEBrkr | err big |
| 15:26.57 | Katty | update 26 of 43! |
| 15:26.58 | fryfrog | bah! |
| 15:27.02 | ManxPower | Katty, We have seen NO problems. I suspect it's some issue where when the call ends Asterisk sends something to the phone after the user has hung up |
| 15:27.06 | fryfrog | i <3 the gentoo one :) |
| 15:27.18 | Katty | iCEBrkr: get off. |
| 15:27.36 | ManxPower | i.e. The user hangs up the phone, then the far end hangs up, asterisk sends a hangup message to the phone and the phone complains because there is no active call |
| 15:27.37 | iCEBrkr | Katty: Ummm, you're not 'get off' material thanks. |
| 15:27.48 | jake1932 | oooh |
| 15:27.57 | Beirdo | heheh |
| 15:28.01 | fugitivo | iCEBrkr: i still like the idea of webapps more and more |
| 15:28.14 | iCEBrkr | fugitivo: I guess it really depends on what you're trying to do. |
| 15:28.23 | lo_tech | brettnem: for changes to take effect in 1.2, we have to do a 'service asterisk stop; service zaptel restart; service asterisk start' |
| 15:28.25 | Katty | iCEBrkr: as much as i appreciate that comment, i hope it's not an insult ;) |
| 15:28.50 | iCEBrkr | Katty: I just throw'm out there.. YOu do what you want with them. |
| 15:28.56 | Katty | iCEBrkr: kthx. |
| 15:29.00 | saftsack | File digits/1F does not exist in any format |
| 15:29.00 | brettnem | lo_tech: That would suggest the kernal module needs a restart.. argh.. just trying to figure out how it is.. don't want to drop all my T1s.. |
| 15:29.04 | iCEBrkr | :) |
| 15:29.07 | saftsack | does anyone know this errormessage? |
| 15:29.10 | Katty | twisted[asteria]: mew? |
| 15:29.22 | fugitivo | brettnem: i told you, you need to restart |
| 15:29.31 | *** join/#asterisk TheCops (n=henri@206-248-136-187.dsl.teksavvy.com) |
| 15:29.35 | ManxPower | WHAT????????? |
| 15:29.39 | fugitivo | saftsack: you don't have the file |
| 15:29.41 | Beirdo | happy birthday to me... and for my birthday, I want this headache to fuck right off |
| 15:29.50 | *** join/#asterisk __a (i=user@85.100.123.10) |
| 15:29.55 | ManxPower | In 1.2 all you have to do is reload chan_zap.so to apply MOST changes to /etc/asterisk/zaptel.conf |
| 15:29.58 | lo_tech | brettnem: that's affirm... cant change the configs for the T1 interfaces and have it take effect without mod'ing the devices |
| 15:30.04 | Beirdo | heh |
| 15:30.04 | saftsack | fugitivo, i know it ;) |
| 15:30.10 | __a | guys, is the jitterbuffer implementation in asterisk is adaptive? |
| 15:30.13 | saftsack | fugitivo, do you know a package for this? |
| 15:30.13 | ManxPower | if you are fiddleing with /etc/zapata.conf then run ztcfg, but that will drop your calls |
| 15:30.16 | fugitivo | ManxPower: zaptel.conf or zapata.conf? |
| 15:30.18 | Beirdo | I took some excedrin extra strength already, iCEBrkr |
| 15:30.20 | Beirdo | :) |
| 15:30.21 | saftsack | or an adress where i can download this file? |
| 15:30.25 | fugitivo | saftsack: so? |
| 15:30.28 | iCEBrkr | line 0: Unable to open master device '/dev/zap/ctl' |
| 15:30.31 | __a | i.e. if I set jitterbuffer=10, does it expect the jitter to be constantly around 200ms? |
| 15:30.36 | fryfrog | KRIKEY! |
| 15:30.37 | iCEBrkr | WTF did I change?! |
| 15:30.39 | saftsack | so that i can get the file ,) |
| 15:30.42 | Katty | Beirdo: hippo birdie two ewe |
| 15:30.43 | ManxPower | fugitivo, I don't remember, for me it's /etc/asterisk/zap<tab> |
| 15:30.45 | backblue | wtf its zapata? where is that package? |
| 15:30.46 | Katty | Beirdo: hippo birdie two ewe |
| 15:30.50 | Katty | Beirdo: hippo birdie deer ewe |
| 15:30.50 | backblue | ?? zapata |
| 15:30.52 | fugitivo | ManxPower: :) |
| 15:30.55 | Katty | Beirdo: hippo birdie two ewe |
| 15:30.57 | Beirdo | hehe ;) |
| 15:31.03 | iCEBrkr | Katty: You're stoned. |
| 15:31.04 | Beirdo | thank ye, Katty :) |
| 15:31.10 | __a | guys |
| 15:31.12 | __a | jitterbuffer |
| 15:31.14 | __a | adaptive |
| 15:31.16 | iCEBrkr | lol |
| 15:31.17 | Katty | iCEBrkr: amn't. |
| 15:31.17 | __a | is it? |
| 15:31.20 | Katty | iCEBrkr: i'm a straightedge. |
| 15:31.29 | ManxPower | __a, If you read the sample config files you would knowl. |
| 15:31.31 | ManxPower | know |
| 15:31.35 | iCEBrkr | Katty: Straightedge, vegan.. THAT explains a lot. |
| 15:31.41 | Katty | ^_^ |
| 15:31.54 | fugitivo | i like vegan people |
| 15:31.57 | iCEBrkr | Katty: no offense, but your kinda people-- they're always COO-COO |
| 15:32.01 | Beirdo | hey, be nice to the brave woman who will hang out with geeks |
| 15:32.08 | Katty | Beirdo: i am a geek. |
| 15:32.14 | Beirdo | my mother-in-law-to-be is vegan |
| 15:32.17 | Beirdo | you be nice :) |
| 15:32.17 | fugitivo | Katty: are you a woman? |
| 15:32.24 | Katty | fugitivo: hahahahaha. |
| 15:32.27 | __a | ManxPower: there's just this |
| 15:32.28 | __a | ; Configure jitter buffers in zapata (each one is 20ms, default is 4) |
| 15:32.28 | __a | ; |
| 15:32.28 | __a | ;jitterbuffers=4 |
| 15:32.35 | *** join/#asterisk bweschke (n=bweschke@pcp09754274pcs.narlington.nj.comcast.net) |
| 15:32.35 | Beirdo | Katty: I would hope you're a geek if you are gonna put up with us :) |
| 15:32.40 | fugitivo | Katty: no? |
| 15:32.43 | Katty | Beirdo: geeks are teh bestest. |
| 15:32.44 | mutilator | anyone know if there is a way to set the tcp TIME_WAIT time to clear a socket faster in windows? |
| 15:32.45 | iCEBrkr | A few years ago. There were about 30 of us who went camping for a long weekend. I spent those days with about 8 vegans.. They're all LOONEY |
| 15:32.47 | __a | ManxPower: I really can't figure it from that :( |
| 15:32.48 | Katty | fugitivo: i'm quite female. |
| 15:32.57 | fryfrog | IRC: where the MEN are MEN... and so are most of the WOMEN... also, the 13 year old girls are FBI agents... |
| 15:33.00 | Beirdo | I agree. Geeks rule. |
| 15:33.04 | ManxPower | __a, Wrong sample config file. that's for Zap. Zap does not have an adaptive jitterbuffer because it doesn't need one. |
| 15:33.05 | mutilator | and/or CLOSE_WAIT |
| 15:33.08 | Beirdo | of course, I'm biased |
| 15:33.10 | iCEBrkr | fryfrog: heheh |
| 15:33.10 | coppice | there are no jitter buffers in zapata |
| 15:33.11 | ManxPower | I assumed you meant for IAX |
| 15:33.24 | fugitivo | Katty: cool, and you know linux? |
| 15:33.31 | Katty | fugitivo: ... |
| 15:33.37 | Katty | fugitivo: no, i'm just here for the free torment. |
| 15:33.38 | __a | ManxPower: what if I dial SIP via Zap? |
| 15:33.41 | ManxPower | coppice, Well, there is a 4ms "jitterbuffer" but nobody ever fiddles with it. |
| 15:33.54 | fugitivo | Katty: how many programming languages do you know? |
| 15:33.56 | Katty | fugitivo: next you'll be asking me if i even run asterisk, right? |
| 15:34.04 | ManxPower | __a, The VOIP part is what will have the jitter, not the zap part. |
| 15:34.05 | fugitivo | Katty: i know you run asterisk |
| 15:34.08 | fryfrog | stupid question: what is zaptel in relation to asterisk? |
| 15:34.10 | iCEBrkr | "How to flirt with a geek girl" by fugitivo |
| 15:34.13 | Beirdo | Katty: just put on some nice pointy boots and start kicking |
| 15:34.17 | ManxPower | If your zap part has jitter you're REALLY SCREWED. |
| 15:34.19 | Katty | iCEBrkr: he sucks at it. |
| 15:34.19 | Beirdo | it will do wonders |
| 15:34.21 | fugitivo | iCEBrkr: nah, just curious |
| 15:34.24 | iCEBrkr | Katty: LOL |
| 15:34.28 | Katty | Beirdo: butbut, but |
| 15:34.36 | Katty | Beirdo: stompy boots are so much more better. |
| 15:34.39 | Beirdo | oooh |
| 15:34.40 | __a | coppice: it actually helped me today, setting it to 10 made a noticable difference on a link with 200ms delay |
| 15:34.40 | iCEBrkr | Katty: I figured you'd get all misty when he asked how many programming lanuages you knew |
| 15:34.47 | Beirdo | OK, that will do too. |
| 15:34.52 | fugitivo | iCEBrkr: lol |
| 15:34.52 | Katty | iCEBrkr: more like annoyed. |
| 15:34.55 | iCEBrkr | haha |
| 15:34.57 | Beirdo | and are more comfortable too. |
| 15:35.05 | Katty | lolzruaprogrammer????!!!!!!!1oneone |
| 15:35.05 | fugitivo | Katty: you can't code? |
| 15:35.17 | lo_tech | mutilator: yes via reghack.. at least there is for win NT4.0+... ymmv for win9x/ME... found it about a year ago on goole |
| 15:35.17 | ManxPower | __a, Asterisk does not have a jitterbuffer for SIP, only for IAX2 |
| 15:35.37 | iCEBrkr | "Hey baby, what's your sign" he asked. |
| 15:35.38 | ManxPower | Remember jitter buffering happens on the INCOMING VoIP stream |
| 15:35.50 | iCEBrkr | She replied "Octagonal, like a STOP sign, now beat it" |
| 15:35.56 | ManxPower | So Asterisk -> SIP device : the SIP device does the jitter buffering. |
| 15:36.04 | Katty | iCEBrkr: teehee! |
| 15:36.18 | ManxPower | SIP device -> Asterisk : Asterisk would do the jitter buffering if Asterisk actually had a SIP jitter buffer. |
| 15:36.23 | saftsack | howto upgrade asterisk? |
| 15:36.23 | __a | ManxPower: so when an incoming VoIP stream is being passed to a zap channel, setting a JB for zap makes difference. |
| 15:36.33 | saftsack | i have 1.0.10 compiled from source on my computer |
| 15:36.45 | ManxPower | __a, no, it would not make any differece |
| 15:36.46 | coppice | __a: there is no jitter buffer for zap |
| 15:37.06 | fugitivo | iCEBrkr: i just wanted to know the geekness of Katty :) |
| 15:37.14 | ManxPower | __a, Zap jitter buffer would buffer jitter on the ZAP part and you should NEVER EVER get jitter on a zap port. |
| 15:37.27 | __a | coppice/ManxPower: it just did, believe me. |
| 15:37.32 | iCEBrkr | fugitivo: She's a pseudo-geek. Can't ya tell? |
| 15:37.33 | __a | what's the point of the above setting then? |
| 15:37.41 | *** join/#asterisk Chuji (i=Chuji@pcp09180602pcs.nash01.tn.comcast.net) |
| 15:37.54 | ManxPower | __a, The point is if your telco has really bad equipment that causes jitter on your T-1 line. |
| 15:38.02 | *** join/#asterisk sivana (n=sivana@mixdown.ca) |
| 15:38.12 | ManxPower | And I mean REALLY REALLY bad, like 1960's type equipment. |
| 15:38.28 | iCEBrkr | It still clicks? |
| 15:38.30 | lo_tech | hey! im 1960's issue equipment! |
| 15:38.36 | coppice | ManxPower: you *cannot* have jitter on a T1, no matter how bad it is |
| 15:38.41 | __a | :) |
| 15:38.44 | iCEBrkr | lo_tech: You have jitter? |
| 15:38.55 | ManxPower | coppice, what's the jitter setting in zap for then? |
| 15:39.03 | Dandan | lo_tech: /nick hi_tech, check if that helps |
| 15:39.03 | lo_tech | iCEBrkr: does jiggy count? |
| 15:39.07 | iCEBrkr | lo_tech: lol |
| 15:39.20 | __a | my theory is that Zap just buffers whatever is incoming, whether it's from telco or VoIP |
| 15:39.35 | ManxPower | __a, you are wrong. |
| 15:39.39 | *** join/#asterisk nfi|ermes (n=nfi_erme@217.220.121.62) |
| 15:39.43 | __a | therefore increasing it for a 200ms delay line made a difference |
| 15:39.43 | nfi|ermes | http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-dev/2005-June/013602.html |
| 15:39.46 | saftsack | is it necessary to update libpri with asterisk? |
| 15:39.59 | nfi|ermes | i have autofallthrough problem |
| 15:40.05 | ManxPower | __a, You are wrong. I'm not going to argue with you. |
| 15:40.12 | nfi|ermes | is there any knowkn issue ? |
| 15:40.22 | coppice | ManxPower: nope. he's right. zap (the driver, not chan_zap) just buffers whatever passes through |
| 15:40.28 | jake1932 | nfi|ermes: can you be more specific? |
| 15:40.35 | __a | ManxPower: not according to sources. |
| 15:40.36 | ManxPower | coppice, in EITHER direction? |
| 15:40.42 | nfi|ermes | my dialplan never goes to t (timout) |
| 15:40.51 | nfi|ermes | it gives autofallthrough |
| 15:41.08 | jake1932 | nfi|ermes: what version? |
| 15:41.20 | nfi|ermes | CVS |
| 15:41.22 | saftsack | can i install the new asterisk over the old one? |
| 15:41.23 | nfi|ermes | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:41.23 | nfi|ermes | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:41.23 | nfi|ermes | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:41.23 | nfi|ermes | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:41.23 | nfi|ermes | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:41.26 | jake1932 | wooo |
| 15:41.30 | ManxPower | nfi|ermes, exten => t is only for IVR apps that use playback, background, etc. |
| 15:41.37 | [wiebel] | anyone tried to compile zapata 1.2.1 under freebsd? |
| 15:41.40 | saftsack | jake1932, are you experienced with updating asterisk? |
| 15:41.41 | [wiebel] | and sucseeded |
| 15:41.42 | fugitivo | "Procaccia miseria" |
| 15:41.55 | ManxPower | nfi|ermes, turn off autofall thru |
| 15:41.58 | *** join/#asterisk CoffeeIV_ (n=CoffeeIV@mail.airlinksystems.com) |
| 15:41.58 | jake1932 | saftsack: somewhat |
| 15:42.00 | [wiebel] | s/zapata/zaptel/ |
| 15:42.00 | coppice | I dunno why they changed the name of the buffer control in chan_zap to jitterbuffers. it doesn't do jitter buffering at all. that just selects the number of 20ms chunks of buffering are in the zaptel kernel driver. |
| 15:42.07 | saftsack | can i install over the old versions? |
| 15:42.20 | nfi|ermes | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:42.28 | jake1932 | saftsack: d/l the source - make clean - make - make install |
| 15:42.34 | saftsack | ok |
| 15:42.37 | *** join/#asterisk Damin (n=damin@nucleus.nacs.net) |
| 15:42.43 | saftsack | should i save the configs before? |
| 15:42.53 | fugitivo | saftsack: yes, just remove your /usr/lib/asterisk/modules before make install |
| 15:42.57 | ManxPower | Ugh. I really hate being 1000ms from the nearest server |
| 15:43.07 | backblue | how do i see this from my card, to know if i need to do this patch { 0xe159, 0x0001, 0x8085, PCI_ANY_ID, 0, 0, (unsigned long) &wcx101p }, |
| 15:43.09 | saftsack | fugitivo, ok |
| 15:43.10 | backblue | ? |
| 15:43.13 | fugitivo | saftsack: backup your config files if you'll do make samples |
| 15:43.13 | ManxPower | fugitivo, unless he has custom modules |
| 15:43.22 | saftsack | ok |
| 15:43.27 | saftsack | yes i did a backup |
| 15:43.29 | saftsack | for the worst case |
| 15:43.34 | *** join/#asterisk trixter (n=trixter@65.172.209.246) |
| 15:44.10 | *** join/#asterisk eKo1 (n=bernd@metrored-gw.tropicohn.com) |
| 15:44.15 | fugitivo | ManxPower: he'll need to build the new custom modules against the new asterisk, or not? |
| 15:44.28 | ManxPower | fugitivo, You mean like G729? |
| 15:44.40 | backblue | jake1932: can you help me, how do i see that? with cat /proc/pci i have 0xe159 and 0x0001, but how do i see the 0x8085 field in my card? |
| 15:44.43 | ManxPower | fugitivo, and that would depend on the module, of course. |
| 15:44.56 | jake1932 | backblue: i don't have a X100p |
| 15:45.44 | ManxPower | backblue, The wcfxo kernel module does not recognize your X100P clone? |
| 15:46.19 | eKo1 | i have two asterisk boxen: A and B. B is connected to the PSTN via a PRI. A passes calls destined to the PSTN to B and B places the call. I'm noticing though that, in the CDRs, the dial-status for attempted calls is always ANSWERED. Is is this normal? |
| 15:46.36 | backblue | ManxPower: i dont know, in manual from voip-info, they speek about patchs and not speak about any wcfxo. |
| 15:46.43 | nfi|ermes | ManxPower, have a loook to my context |
| 15:46.48 | nfi|ermes | http://pastebin.com/475153 |
| 15:46.49 | ManxPower | eKo1, only if the PSTN lines are analog |
| 15:46.50 | backblue | jake1932: ok |
| 15:46.57 | nfi|ermes | it should go to timout extension |
| 15:47.03 | nfi|ermes | i use background |
| 15:47.04 | ManxPower | backblue, ignore that unless you have a problem |
| 15:47.13 | eKo1 | ManxPower: well, B has a PRI |
| 15:47.26 | eKo1 | so it shouldn't be that way then |
| 15:47.30 | saftsack | jake1932, so i hope it will be work without problems :) |
| 15:47.35 | TheCops | does asterisk have a bug with enum and e164.org ? |
| 15:47.43 | ManxPower | eKo1, the CDRs on A or B? |
| 15:47.47 | eKo1 | on both |
| 15:47.50 | *** part/#asterisk __a (i=user@85.100.123.10) |
| 15:47.58 | TheCops | I've got parse_naptr: NAPTR Regex match failed like error. |
| 15:48.08 | eKo1 | it's so weird |
| 15:48.17 | ManxPower | eKo1, weird. do you have any playbacks, backgrounds, or answers that the calls might hit? |
| 15:48.34 | lo_tech | eKo1: or if box A has exten => _X.,1,Answer / exten => _X.,n,Dial(BoxB/XXX), etc... if you answer the call on A then dial through to B, you're going to see an answer on each |
| 15:48.35 | ManxPower | TheCops, Your need to prefix a + on your ENUM lookups |
| 15:48.39 | backblue | ManxPower: weird. |
| 15:49.07 | CoffeeIV_ | I'm scriptifying the sending of a fax though * . . . so I can do it from a web page, I'm not a spammer . . . I am making a context for outgoing faxes, and a call file that will set a variable to the outgoing tiff file before calling -- anyone know of any examples of something similar, for eitther the dialplan or call file ? I search voip-info and google |
| 15:49.17 | eKo1 | ManxPower: nope, I don't have an Answer() anywhere |
| 15:49.20 | TheCops | ManxPower, so, +4503713039 (eg) |
| 15:49.22 | ManxPower | Looks like I am NOT going to Lafayette next week. YAY! |
| 15:49.29 | ManxPower | eKo1, many asterisk apps answer the line. |
| 15:49.35 | ManxPower | TheCops, yes |
| 15:49.42 | *** join/#asterisk duckz (n=duckz@193.192.46.26) |
| 15:49.58 | backblue | ManxPower: they speek about wsfxo.c, i dont even have that file in the sources. |
| 15:50.14 | ManxPower | backblue, you need the zaptel sources |
| 15:51.02 | backblue | ManxPower: i have it |
| 15:51.03 | ManxPower | eKo1, you are not doing something stupid like using busydetect or callprogress set to yes, are you? |
| 15:51.04 | *** join/#asterisk popvoxdave (n=popvoxda@69.143.206.112) |
| 15:51.06 | backblue | i have compiled it |
| 15:51.09 | *** part/#asterisk popvoxdave (n=popvoxda@69.143.206.112) |
| 15:51.09 | backblue | and it compiled ok |
| 15:51.10 | TheCops | ManxPower, hrmm, weird, I added + and when I did again the lookup, I've got the same error, and the + is not in the lookup (via the console) |
| 15:51.18 | backblue | i dont know if it will detect my card. |
| 15:51.27 | ManxPower | TheCops, it should be |
| 15:51.43 | *** join/#asterisk Lurr (i=user@adsl-067-034-122-207.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) |
| 15:51.43 | ManxPower | backblue, almost nobody has to patch zaptel anymore |
| 15:51.47 | eKo1 | ManxPower: nope |
| 15:51.48 | eKo1 | nothingç |
| 15:51.50 | ManxPower | TheCops, you did a reload? |
| 15:51.52 | *** part/#asterisk Lurr (i=user@adsl-067-034-122-207.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) |
| 15:51.56 | eKo1 | just a straight Dial() |
| 15:52.06 | TheCops | yeah |
| 15:52.07 | TheCops | restarted |
| 15:52.14 | backblue | ManxPower: ok, tks i will try it. |
| 15:52.18 | ManxPower | eKo1, paste the console output to pastebin.ca for the machine that the phone device is connected to. |
| 15:52.45 | eKo1 | ManxPower: ok |
| 15:53.02 | backblue | ManxPower: i have to patch asterisk, because asterisk does not assume logins with ", |
| 15:53.23 | ManxPower | backblue, You don't know enough to patch asterisk yet. |
| 15:53.39 | backblue | ManxPower: but i allready patched. |
| 15:53.40 | *** join/#asterisk brettnem (n=brettnem@72.29.102.158) |
| 15:53.47 | *** part/#asterisk brettnem (n=brettnem@72.29.102.158) |
| 15:53.48 | backblue | ManxPower: and i need it. |
| 15:53.50 | *** join/#asterisk Gronker__ (n=Gronker2@70.152.186.67) |
| 15:53.54 | *** part/#asterisk Gronker__ (n=Gronker2@70.152.186.67) |
| 15:54.04 | backblue | ManxPower: asterisk takes "." from the cids, and i need it. |
| 15:54.14 | TheCops | ManxPower, Dec 22 10:52:49 WARNING[8164]: app_enumlookup.c:99 enumlookup_exec: The application EnumLookup is deprecated. Please use the ENUMLOOKUP() function instead. |
| 15:54.15 | ManxPower | backblue, if you say so. |
| 15:54.20 | TheCops | Weird, this is the same command |
| 15:54.24 | ManxPower | TheCops, ignore that for now. |
| 15:54.32 | TheCops | ok |
| 15:54.57 | TheCops | ManxPower, + before the numer dont work at all, very weird...hehe |
| 15:55.19 | ManxPower | TheCops, It's required for anything 1.2RC2 or later |
| 15:55.21 | backblue | ManxPower: do you use "." in cids? |
| 15:55.32 | TheCops | ManxPower, I have 1.2.1 isntalled |
| 15:55.47 | ManxPower | backblue, a period. No, but I don't see why it would be a problem. I use commas in CID all the time. |
| 15:55.48 | backblue | its a big problem in my point of view, asterisk dont suport virtual hosts, and things like that. |
| 15:56.05 | backblue | ManxPower: commas? give me a example please. |
| 15:56.07 | ManxPower | backblue, it does something similar, called CONTEXTS |
| 15:56.12 | ManxPower | Wieling, Eric |
| 15:56.15 | ManxPower | There's an example |
| 15:56.52 | ManxPower | Using contexts you can have different companies (customers) use the same extensions and not have a problem. |
| 15:57.15 | ManxPower | Unless you are doing something stupid like setting your SIP usernames to be the same as the extension for that device. |
| 15:57.24 | ManxPower | That's just ASKING for trouble. |
| 15:57.46 | TheCops | ManxPower, duh! I'm a stupid guys who have more server that I can remember. I was working in another server with similar asterisk installation lol |
| 15:57.50 | *** join/#asterisk wunderkin (i=kev@ip68-226-113-228.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 15:58.09 | TheCops | This is working now, hehe |
| 15:58.09 | ManxPower | TheCops, does it work now? |
| 15:58.12 | TheCops | yeah for sure |
| 15:58.13 | TheCops | thanks |
| 16:00.01 | backblue | ManxPower: so, you have 2 companys, xpto.com and xpte.com, and you have your asterisk getting calls form this 2 companys, and you have in company xpto.com the user john, ans in xpte.com the user john, how do you have them both? |
| 16:00.03 | eKo1 | ManxPower: http://pastebin.ca/34612 |
| 16:00.32 | eKo1 | ManxPower: It seems the call is being answered...but why and where? |
| 16:00.40 | *** join/#asterisk shido6 (n=shido6@d221-68-216.commercial.cgocable.net) |
| 16:00.47 | ManxPower | backblue, you don't. Since the user will never actually SEE their SIP username, set it to something unique, like the MAC address of the Voip device. |
| 16:01.02 | ManxPower | You have extensions. |
| 16:01.07 | ManxPower | users see extensions |
| 16:01.31 | ManxPower | or you can name the SIP username john-company-a and john-company-b |
| 16:01.39 | shido6 | ... |
| 16:02.15 | ManxPower | eKo1, what is this SIP/pstn thing? |
| 16:02.23 | backblue | ManxPower: with mac addr how do you pretend to make calls? |
| 16:02.25 | *** join/#asterisk xachen (i=justin@magnum.thisgeek.com) |
| 16:02.27 | steff | some trouble with avm C2 in p2p mode, anyone can help me? |
| 16:02.30 | saftsack | howto print a message on the telephones display? (misdn) |
| 16:02.37 | backblue | call "ff:ff:ff:ff:.." ? |
| 16:02.56 | eKo1 | SIP/pstn is box B (with the PRI) |
| 16:03.01 | ManxPower | backblue, in sip.conf make the userid for the device be the MAC address like deadbeef then Dial(SIP/deadbeef) |
| 16:03.15 | jake1932 | deadbeef? |
| 16:03.15 | Beirdo | mmmm, shortbread :) |
| 16:03.24 | ManxPower | eKo1, Are you one of those lunatics that want to use SIP instead of IAX2 for inter asterisk communicatuions |
| 16:03.33 | eKo1 | hehe, yeah |
| 16:03.50 | *** join/#asterisk pjz (n=pj@zachs.place.org) |
| 16:03.57 | lo_tech | decafbad > deadbeef |
| 16:04.00 | pjz | how do I set up call logging in asterisk? |
| 16:04.04 | eKo1 | since i tried with iax2 and it didn't work at all for me |
| 16:04.07 | Beirdo | 00coffee |
| 16:04.11 | iCEBrkr | pjz: CDR |
| 16:04.11 | ManxPower | eKo1, now pastebin the CLI output from server B |
| 16:04.18 | nfi|ermes | anyone has never seen this ??: |
| 16:04.19 | nfi|ermes | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:04.19 | nfi|ermes | Dec 22 16:53:07 WARNING[2136]: chan_sip.c:1594 create_addr: No such host: 39-81 |
| 16:04.19 | nfi|ermes | Dec 22 16:53:07 NOTICE[2136]: app_dial.c:983 dial_exec_full: Unable to create ch |
| 16:04.19 | nfi|ermes | annel of type 'SIP' (cause 3) |
| 16:04.21 | fugitivo | i love "switch" |
| 16:04.22 | iCEBrkr | pjz: /var/log/asterisk/ |
| 16:04.37 | fugitivo | nfi|ermes: what the hell is 39-81? |
| 16:04.47 | nfi|ermes | two extensions |
| 16:04.52 | pjz | iCEBrkr: ah! thanks! |
| 16:04.58 | lo_tech | pjz: by call logging are you talking call detail records, or the English mongrelization of the the term 'Call Recording"? |
| 16:04.58 | nfi|ermes | a group |
| 16:04.59 | file[desk] | umm, you want SIP/39&SIP/81 |
| 16:05.00 | fugitivo | then you need to use SIP/39&SIP/81 |
| 16:05.01 | ManxPower | nfi|ermes, you do not have a [39-81] section in sip.conf |
| 16:05.20 | nfi|ermes | no |
| 16:06.00 | ManxPower | nfi|ermes, you want to ring two devices at the same time? |
| 16:06.03 | eKo1 | ManxPower: http://pastebin.ca/34613 |
| 16:06.11 | nfi|ermes | yes |
| 16:06.16 | fugitivo | nfi|ermes: read |
| 16:06.27 | ManxPower | then you Dial(SIP/device1&SIP/device2) |
| 16:06.27 | rob0 | 39-81 is the negative of life, the universe, and everything |
| 16:06.35 | nfi|ermes | exten => s,2,Macro(rg-operatore,,,39-81) |
| 16:06.47 | iCEBrkr | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:06.49 | iCEBrkr | NOW WHAT?! |
| 16:06.50 | iCEBrkr | grrrrrr |
| 16:07.00 | jake1932 | comprimise |
| 16:07.00 | ManxPower | iCEBrkr, one side has to be pri_net |
| 16:07.09 | fugitivo | nfi|ermes: <file[desk]> umm, you want SIP/39&SIP/81 && <fugitivo> then you need to use SIP/39&SIP/81 |
| 16:07.17 | jake1932 | comPRImise |
| 16:07.28 | iCEBrkr | ManxPower: if I set it to pri_net it says the samething but only claiming they think they're network too |
| 16:07.29 | ManxPower | nfi|ermes, We don't care about your macro. If you want to dial multiple devices than you use the corect format or it will not work. |
| 16:07.43 | ManxPower | iCEBrkr, Your telco has a loopback on your PRI |
| 16:08.04 | ManxPower | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:08.11 | iCEBrkr | They better not |
| 16:08.25 | iCEBrkr | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:08.40 | ManxPower | iCEBrkr, they do, A loopback is the onlything that would cause that message that I can think of. It could be a telco loopback or a loopback cable |
| 16:08.48 | *** part/#asterisk pjz (n=pj@zachs.place.org) |
| 16:08.54 | file[desk] | iCEBrkr: commence stabbing telco |
| 16:09.11 | iCEBrkr | dual-wield! |
| 16:09.14 | zoa | iCEBrkr: check zapata.conf vs zaptel.conf |
| 16:09.24 | iCEBrkr | eh? |
| 16:09.26 | iCEBrkr | how's that matter? |
| 16:09.47 | *** join/#asterisk azzie_ (n=az@66.193.84.130) |
| 16:10.23 | zoa | if you define net in one and cpe on the other, it wont be good |
| 16:10.30 | zoa | and you will get those errors |
| 16:10.31 | zoa | iirc |
| 16:10.40 | ManxPower | iCEBrkr, Asterisk is sending out "Hi! I'm PRI CPE" then that message is being sent back to Asterisk by something on the line. |
| 16:10.52 | iCEBrkr | Where in /etc/zaptel.conf do you specifiy cpe or net? :D |
| 16:10.56 | Seldon1975 | I have a TDM2422E with 8 FXS lines and 8 FXO lines on a network with 8 SIP phones. I have near-side echo on the SIP phones only. Can anyone suggest what might be causing this? |
| 16:10.58 | iCEBrkr | zoa: toker |
| 16:11.01 | ManxPower | zoa, um NET and CPE s only done in /etc/asterisk/zapata.conf |
| 16:11.07 | iCEBrkr | ManxPower: Thank you |
| 16:11.15 | zoa | well, i dont remember that the cards could see it |
| 16:11.18 | iCEBrkr | lol |
| 16:11.18 | zoa | thats why i ask |
| 16:11.19 | zoa | :) |
| 16:11.26 | zoa | i mean physically on the line |
| 16:11.35 | ManxPower | Seldon1975, The people you are calling are using analog lines. That's what causes it. |
| 16:11.41 | zoa | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:12.03 | Seldon1975 | Manx: can you elaborate? |
| 16:12.08 | ManxPower | Read the wiki and the mailing list archives. Getting rid of echo is one of the hardest things to do in voip. |
| 16:12.10 | ManxPower | ~docs |
| 16:12.12 | jbot | methinks docs is probably Documentation can be found at http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk or http://www.asteriskdocs.org or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/asterisk or http://www.asteriskguru.com, or http://www.astmasters.net/howtos.html |
| 16:12.16 | ManxPower | ~mailinglist |
| 16:12.17 | jbot | extra, extra, read all about it, mailinglist is Search Asterisk mailing lists by prepending site:lists.digium.com to your Google search. Browse the mailing list archive at http://lists.digium.com/ or search through it at http://www.asteriskguru.com/archives/search.php, or and there is also the Macintosh Asterisk mailing list at http://www.astmasters.net/maml.html |
| 16:12.19 | file[desk] | KILL THE ECHO! |
| 16:12.19 | fugitivo | lol, 15 free ubuntu cds arrived |
| 16:12.28 | lo_tech | who's the resident 'nsf=' guru again? |
| 16:12.42 | JohnnyC | When can I find Policies from DIGIUM about use of Asterisk Logo ? |
| 16:12.49 | Seldon1975 | Manx: near-side echo for SIP phones only is a fairly specific subset of 'echo' issues; can you direct me to a specific resource |
| 16:12.50 | *** join/#asterisk msw (n=msw@24.172.59.42) |
| 16:12.56 | zoa | JohnnyC: email them |
| 16:12.57 | ManxPower | lo_tech, Check with the college people. They are usually familiar with Non-Sufficient Funds |
| 16:13.06 | zoa | i know their legal team doesnt like it |
| 16:13.13 | ManxPower | Seldon1975, Um, actually near-side echo is the most common echo. |
| 16:13.27 | Seldon1975 | is it usually restricted to the SIP phones though |
| 16:13.34 | fugitivo | where the hell get the money to give free cds to everybody? |
| 16:13.34 | Seldon1975 | the Analog phones are no problem |
| 16:13.36 | JohnnyC | zoa thanks |
| 16:13.45 | ManxPower | it's not actually near-side echo, BTW. Your voice is being sent out and being echoed back by the 2-wire analog line on the far end. |
| 16:13.49 | *** join/#asterisk brettnem (n=brettnem@72.29.102.158) |
| 16:13.54 | brettnem | hey all |
| 16:13.58 | Seldon1975 | what Im getting at is; is it likely a problem wiuth the SIP hardware or * or zaptel |
| 16:14.12 | eKo1 | hmm...maybe i should start reading about using switch => |
| 16:14.13 | brettnem | hey anyone know why on a T1 PRI call that voice would clip at the begining and ends of words? |
| 16:14.15 | Seldon1975 | Manx: ok that's interesting |
| 16:14.23 | eKo1 | never used it before. i wonder if it would solve my problems |
| 16:14.31 | ManxPower | Seldon1975, WRONG! Your analog phones have echo too, but because the audio path on analog has such a low latency you near the echo as a sidetone and not as an echo. |
| 16:14.32 | brettnem | er audio clips at the begining and ending of words |
| 16:14.33 | jake1932 | brettnem: echo settings |
| 16:14.34 | jake1932 | ? |
| 16:14.42 | Seldon1975 | Manx: my card has hardware echo cancelling - does that hardware typically not work? |
| 16:14.46 | ManxPower | In voip the audio path latency is high enough you hear the echo as echo. |
| 16:14.52 | brettnem | jake1932: it's not echo.. it's choppy audio when going from silence to speech |
| 16:14.53 | TheCops | brettnem, echo issue or a codec issue maybe |
| 16:14.55 | ManxPower | Seldon1975, call digium. |
| 16:15.03 | TheCops | brettnem, a silence supressor ?! |
| 16:15.09 | ManxPower | Seldon1975, if you have the hardware echocan and you are getting echo then you need to call Digium |
| 16:15.11 | Seldon1975 | Manx: yeah, they have an engineer calling me back in an hour (hopefully) |
| 16:15.11 | lo_tech | ManxPower: aaaaaaaaah, ha? |
| 16:15.15 | brettnem | TheCops: sounds like it.. but this is PRI to ULAW SIP |
| 16:15.25 | TheCops | brettnem, show translation |
| 16:15.25 | brettnem | asterisk to asterisk.. no silence suppression |
| 16:15.31 | TheCops | watch out the ms between translation |
| 16:15.35 | TheCops | I guess it will be 1 |
| 16:15.50 | TheCops | but just to verify |
| 16:15.50 | brettnem | TheCops: it's ulaw to ulaw! |
| 16:15.55 | TheCops | you told me ULAW to PRI |
| 16:16.03 | ManxPower | brettnem, turn off your damn onboard GigE |
| 16:16.04 | brettnem | what is PRI? a codec? |
| 16:16.10 | iCEBrkr | This is fucked up.. I had this PRI working just fine yesterday. Rebooted the box for some testing... and now the PRI is all jacked up |
| 16:16.20 | brettnem | ManxPower: you really think that's it? |
| 16:16.23 | Seldon1975 | Manx: have you heard of people having issues with crosstalk? |
| 16:16.32 | ManxPower | brettnem, It's a pretty common issue. |
| 16:16.33 | TheCops | brettnem, a PRI is a 23 numerics lines from a telco provider |
| 16:16.39 | ManxPower | Seldon1975, No. |
| 16:16.40 | synthetiq | how do u remove the max fowards in the sip 200 ok message |
| 16:16.41 | ManxPower | only echo |
| 16:16.42 | synthetiq | ? |
| 16:16.45 | Seldon1975 | ManxPower: we seem to have crosstalk - should that be handled by the TDM card too? |
| 16:16.51 | Seldon1975 | oh |
| 16:16.56 | brettnem | TheCops: right not a codec.. the PRI uses PCM encoding |
| 16:16.57 | ManxPower | But digium's hardware echo can is so new..... |
| 16:17.06 | iCEBrkr | crosstalk? that was a terminal program back in the late 80's |
| 16:17.08 | iCEBrkr | :) |
| 16:17.20 | Seldon1975 | iCeBrkr: i wish |
| 16:17.24 | ManxPower | Seldon1975, no idea. In my three years of using asterisk and being on this channel and on the mailing lists I have never heard of anyone having a crosstalk problem |
| 16:17.26 | Katty | under the crosstalk! |
| 16:17.29 | Katty | do do do |
| 16:17.37 | iCEBrkr | Katty: That was bad. |
| 16:17.38 | *** join/#asterisk Assid (n=assid@203.115.64.59) |
| 16:17.40 | ManxPower | brettnem, Are you in alaw land or ulaw land? |
| 16:17.53 | brettnem | ManxPower: the eth card doesn't share INTs with the wct4xxp |
| 16:17.54 | Katty | iCEBrkr: that's what i specialize in. |
| 16:17.55 | brettnem | ulaw |
| 16:17.55 | Seldon1975 | ManxPower: yeah - I don't understand how it can be happening; but it is |
| 16:18.05 | ManxPower | brettnem, doesn't matter. |
| 16:18.19 | backblue | ManxPower: i still cant have 2 users with the same name, in the same server, with diferent domains. |
| 16:18.22 | brettnem | ManxPower: argh.. this box is 200 miles from any hands |
| 16:18.26 | ManxPower | brettnem, The problem with onboard GigE or RAID is IRQ latency |
| 16:18.27 | TheCops | ManxPower, you are not kidding with onboard gigabyte ethernet card ? Why the hells it cause the problem |
| 16:18.30 | coppice | ManxPower people had a lot of crosstalk with the TDM400 early on. I think that was fixed |
| 16:18.38 | ManxPower | backblue, correct, but that is not a problem. |
| 16:19.02 | Seldon1975 | coppice: thats interesting |
| 16:19.05 | ManxPower | brettnem, not ALL GigE causes problems. |
| 16:19.13 | backblue | ManxPower: yes it is, ppl in companys doesnt want to have user-companyA or user-companyB |
| 16:19.13 | brettnem | 03:0a.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82541GI/PI Gigabit Ethernet Controller |
| 16:19.18 | Seldon1975 | coppice: do you know if it was a hardware issue? |
| 16:19.29 | brettnem | 01:01.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82547GI Gigabit Ethernet Controller |
| 16:19.36 | ManxPower | backblue, Why don't they want that? They will NEVER EVER KNOW if you have it set up correctly. |
| 16:19.42 | backblue | ManxPower: they wanto user@companyA.com |
| 16:19.56 | backblue | ManxPower: they will never know? |
| 16:20.01 | ManxPower | backblue, how do your users dial letters on the telephone keypad? |
| 16:20.01 | synthetiq | my old provider cant support my sip 200 Ok messages because of the max fowards message with in it, how can i modify this with out hacking the code |
| 16:20.09 | coppice | people were getting weird noises in the analogue ports. I think it was a decoupling issue, and they had to add caps |
| 16:20.12 | backblue | so you can do like prepends? |
| 16:20.20 | backblue | ManxPower: they use software phones. |
| 16:20.29 | backblue | they can use letters to dial |
| 16:20.37 | backblue | one of the ideals of voip |
| 16:20.39 | ManxPower | backblue, There is your problem. Don't do that. |
| 16:20.49 | backblue | its NOT to use numbers for dialing, and use your company email addr |
| 16:20.55 | ManxPower | backblue, Asterisk is extension centric. |
| 16:21.13 | ManxPower | What you want is a real SIP router like SER. |
| 16:21.23 | backblue | ManxPower: what do you mean by that? |
| 16:21.23 | TheCops | ManxPower, with a PCIx RAID controller, it can cause problem ?! |
| 16:21.37 | ManxPower | my users access vouicemaiol by dialing 3509 or xxx819-3509 |
| 16:21.39 | backblue | ManxPower: SER can distribute calls? |
| 16:21.44 | ManxPower | TheCops, tes. |
| 16:21.46 | backblue | by domains? |
| 16:21.47 | lo_tech | 'one of the ideals of VoIP' is dial by email addy? since wtf? |
| 16:21.48 | ManxPower | backblue, yes. |
| 16:21.52 | ManxPower | backblue, I don't know. |
| 16:22.14 | backblue | so why are you saying, that i need SER? i dont understand. |
| 16:22.19 | ManxPower | lo_tech, the SIP cheerleaders like saying you don't have to dial by number. |
| 16:22.20 | *** join/#asterisk chaoscon (n=ph33r@smartserv/ceo/chaoscon) |
| 16:22.30 | TheCops | ManxPower, did you tried to use a IBM server as asterisk PBX ?! |
| 16:22.38 | ManxPower | backblue, ASTERISK IS A PBX. PBXs route calls by extension. |
| 16:23.00 | beebz | http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:Rmfyp0mpk94J:www.voip-forum.com/%3Fp%3D153%26more%3D1+sip+dial+by+domain&hl=en&client=firefox-a << dial by domain |
| 16:23.03 | lo_tech | ManxPower: yep, but that's SIP, and SIP's not the only dog in the race |
| 16:23.07 | *** join/#asterisk _Sam-- (n=sam@phone2.kneedraggers.com) |
| 16:23.09 | brettnem | lo_tech: duh.. but no one actually does it. |
| 16:23.14 | ManxPower | TheCops, Why would I? I have a standard server configuration that works for me. I call up my vendor, tell them or order the "Stirling Asterisk Server" and a week later I have my box. |
| 16:23.37 | _Sam-- | hey, i havent done any work with analog lines...what would be the best method to connect 4 POTs lines to asterisk? |
| 16:23.43 | ManxPower | backblue, if you really want to force your model on asterisk then you CAN do it. |
| 16:23.51 | backblue | ManxPower: but its a pbx ip oriented. it should route only not from extensions. |
| 16:23.56 | iCEBrkr | Dude.. VoIP must mean you dial by EMail address cuz it uses the INNERNET! |
| 16:24.03 | TheCops | ManxPower, was just a question, I'll use a IBM Server with a RAID controller as PCIx with a T1 card..I dont want to get problem hehe |
| 16:24.07 | ManxPower | Their SIP userid and all is their MAC address, then you point the device to a specific contect in extensions.conf |
| 16:24.27 | iCEBrkr | backblue: http://www.voip-info.org, come back when you know what VoIP and a PBX is. |
| 16:24.43 | ManxPower | backblue, your problem is that you think SIP User ID = what you dial. |
| 16:24.45 | ManxPower | That is NOT true. |
| 16:25.03 | *** join/#asterisk fugitivo (n=ajf@209.13.240.236) |
| 16:25.12 | iCEBrkr | ManxPower: But sometimes it's easier to actually configure it that :D |
| 16:25.16 | saftsack | File digits/1F does not exist in any format |
| 16:25.22 | backblue | why not? |
| 16:25.24 | saftsack | I cant find this file anywhere :( |
| 16:25.29 | lo_tech | but wtf does email addy come into it? ip is a routing protocol, email may be built on it, and SIP/IAX may run on it... but VoIP <> every app that runs opn IP |
| 16:25.42 | iCEBrkr | lo_tech: Don't you know. Email is the internet! |
| 16:25.51 | ManxPower | I can have exten => john,1,Dial(SIP/0004f2011935-a) |
| 16:25.57 | fryfrog | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:26.03 | saftsack | [TK]D-Fender|AFK, do you know where to find this files? |
| 16:26.04 | rob0 | the internet is the web :) |
| 16:26.04 | iCEBrkr | fryfrog: haha |
| 16:26.05 | lo_tech | AOL 4tw! |
| 16:26.15 | *** join/#asterisk Nico_Bdav (n=nico@shm67-2-82-227-191-194.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 16:26.24 | backblue | ManxPower: i want john@company.com,1,Dial(SIP/WHATEVER) |
| 16:26.26 | ManxPower | lo_tech, it's not an e-mail address, it just looks like an e-mail address. |
| 16:26.26 | fugitivo | i want to surf the internet |
| 16:26.30 | fryfrog | I get the AOL Internet cd in the mail every two days! that way i keep up to date on websites! |
| 16:26.41 | ManxPower | backblue, you can't do that. |
| 16:26.42 | backblue | that's what i need, and i dont understand why asterisk dont do it. |
| 16:26.45 | iCEBrkr | fryfrog: I'm trying to figure out how they put the WHOLE internet on 1 CD |
| 16:26.56 | fryfrog | its zipped |
| 16:26.59 | iCEBrkr | backblue: you're smoking crack! |
| 16:27.05 | *** join/#asterisk dnc (n=duncan@213-244-225-42.wireless.org.yu) |
| 16:27.07 | iCEBrkr | fryfrog: crazy!@ |
| 16:27.09 | backblue | iCEBrkr: hehe, i dont even smoke |
| 16:27.12 | ManxPower | backblue, Asterisk is a MILTIPROTOCOL PBX and not all protocols support dialing by URI |
| 16:27.22 | *** join/#asterisk _T3_ (n=rposada@200.63.231.210) |
| 16:27.29 | ManxPower | iCEBrkr, no, he's been brainwashed by the SIP cheerleaders. |
| 16:27.30 | fugitivo | backblue: why you want an extension like that? |
| 16:27.32 | fryfrog | AOL: You're so easy to use, no wonder we're #1! |
| 16:27.40 | dnc | okay, any way of seeing what my zaptel cards are jumper set to? im getting "Dec 22 17:30:32 ERROR[1861]: chan_zap.c:6985 mkintf: Channel 24 is reserved for D-channel. |
| 16:27.40 | dnc | " when it should be connected to an E1 |
| 16:27.47 | iCEBrkr | ManxPower: Apparently |
| 16:27.56 | backblue | fugitivo: because its the future, and you could have virtualhosts. |
| 16:27.58 | ManxPower | dnc, your card is in T-1 mode. |
| 16:28.03 | fugitivo | dnc: it looks a t1 |
| 16:28.08 | iCEBrkr | backblue: Seriously, what planet are you from? |
| 16:28.10 | fugitivo | backblue: nonono |
| 16:28.13 | ManxPower | backblue, it's not the future ubnless the PSTN can talk to it. |
| 16:28.15 | fugitivo | backblue: you have extensions |
| 16:28.24 | fugitivo | backblue: extension@yourasteriskbox |
| 16:28.28 | backblue | ManxPower: the asterisk does that. |
| 16:28.32 | ManxPower | backblue, Asteirsk is not a SIP PBX. |
| 16:28.40 | iCEBrkr | "Please enter the first 15 letters of the persons email address that you'd like to call" |
| 16:28.59 | ManxPower | iCEBrkr, That would only be for callings coming from the PSTN. |
| 16:29.01 | iCEBrkr | 30mins later. |
| 16:29.04 | ManxPower | Or for calls from phones. |
| 16:29.12 | iCEBrkr | "I'm sorry, I cannot find anyone by that email address" |
| 16:29.17 | ManxPower | backblue, the way you want to do it ONLY works for softphones. |
| 16:29.22 | backblue | iCEBrkr: ? |
| 16:29.32 | Nugget | the future of telephony is mobile, and the future of mobile doesn't rule out alphanumeric targets. |
| 16:29.35 | ManxPower | Using number extensions works for any phone, soft phones, hardphones, the PSTN, etc. |
| 16:29.46 | iCEBrkr | ManxPower: T9 baby! |
| 16:29.51 | Nugget | but you can't get there from here, that's for sure. |
| 16:29.52 | backblue | iCEBrkr: john@company.com, it checks dns for sip server @company.com and delivers there. |
| 16:29.57 | backblue | just like email... |
| 16:30.02 | iCEBrkr | backblue: You're stoned. |
| 16:30.14 | ManxPower | backblue, How do I call that person from my cell phone or my landline? |
| 16:30.18 | Beirdo | hehe |
| 16:30.23 | Beirdo | voice recognition, of course |
| 16:30.26 | file[desk] | you don't, IT'S PSYCHIC! |
| 16:30.30 | backblue | ManxPower: you will have voip numbers |
| 16:30.31 | Nugget | enum lookups are a good compromise for the time being. register your numbers with e164.org and start doing enum lookups on placed calls. |
| 16:30.39 | backblue | like you have geografic and mobile |
| 16:30.40 | iCEBrkr | backblue: WTF is a VoIP number? |
| 16:30.46 | backblue | you will have voip ones |
| 16:31.02 | backblue | iCEBrkr: its just like another one. |
| 16:31.04 | ManxPower | backblue, What you want to do is not how we do things with Asterisk. If you want to do it that way you won't get much help here. |
| 16:31.07 | iCEBrkr | I think backblue is trolling. |
| 16:31.21 | backblue | or if you talk SIP, you can use sip url, and dial directly to your email |
| 16:31.32 | iCEBrkr | OMFG |
| 16:31.37 | ManxPower | backblue, correct, but that only works for SIP. |
| 16:31.54 | backblue | yes, you have to use sip capable phones |
| 16:32.01 | backblue | offcourse your mobile phone dont do that |
| 16:32.09 | Beirdo | thank GOD |
| 16:32.10 | iCEBrkr | backblue: So again, you're stoned. |
| 16:32.15 | ManxPower | backblue, No, you need to use SIP SOFTPHONES. |
| 16:32.25 | backblue | but for that, your isp will get you a DDI, and forward to your sip device |
| 16:32.26 | Nugget | that's not true, Manx. |
| 16:32.34 | ManxPower | a sip hardphone will still require you to dial 50 zillion digits to enter the SIP URI |
| 16:32.35 | Nugget | the cisco phones can dial sip targets, for instance. |
| 16:32.47 | Nugget | from an xml address book it's transparent. |
| 16:32.51 | backblue | yes |
| 16:32.59 | *** part/#asterisk dnc (n=duncan@213-244-225-42.wireless.org.yu) |
| 16:33.01 | Nugget | I think you guys are just enjoying piling on too much and you're being too hard on backblue. |
| 16:33.08 | iCEBrkr | backblue: puff-puff pass man, you're fucking up the rotation |
| 16:33.09 | Nugget | it's not like the concept is crazy. |
| 16:33.11 | ManxPower | Nugget, Dialing a number extension is transparent then too. |
| 16:33.15 | backblue | but thats its just products shit... just think in the implementation. |
| 16:33.19 | Nugget | sure, but dialing a number is less useful. |
| 16:33.32 | fryfrog | i call myself by email all the time, it rules |
| 16:33.48 | ManxPower | I |
| 16:34.02 | backblue | but ser does that? i still dont get it! |
| 16:34.02 | iCEBrkr | fryfrog: Don't your fingers hurt from dialing all those numbers? |
| 16:34.14 | ManxPower | I've been using Asterisk for 3 years, deploying it in production for 2 years and I have never had to dial anything other than numbers to call anywhere. |
| 16:34.22 | Nugget | That's great for you. |
| 16:34.27 | backblue | iCEBrkr: you are in the past, come back to the present, and thinks in the future |
| 16:34.34 | Nugget | but it's not fair to act like we're all crazy for wanting to move in that direction. |
| 16:34.34 | ManxPower | backblue, SER is a SIP only call routing software. |
| 16:34.50 | ManxPower | My users would KILL me if I made them dial letters. |
| 16:34.55 | iCEBrkr | Nugget: Please pass the bong. |
| 16:35.01 | fryfrog | dialing numbers? |
| 16:35.02 | lo_tech | not crazy to be moving there... but dont ask us how to get the config working today! |
| 16:35.03 | backblue | with wimacs you will have your sip phone, everywhere. |
| 16:35.07 | *** join/#asterisk Sedorox (i=brandon@smartserv/cna/Sedorox) |
| 16:35.08 | fryfrog | i just put the address into my aol! |
| 16:35.24 | ManxPower | Nugget, The URI model of dialing prettty much excludes any device without a keyboard. I consider that crazy and have from day 1 |
| 16:35.25 | lo_tech | 'why cant I' for items in the future is just aggravating |
| 16:35.28 | Nugget | 90% of the calls I make are not dialed, they're from my address book. |
| 16:35.35 | Nugget | so it makes no difference to me. |
| 16:35.53 | backblue | ManxPower: i think you are wrong, diling letters will be just nicer that numbers. |
| 16:35.55 | Nugget | Nobody is disagreeing with you on that point. it's ridiculous to type letters on a numeric keypad. |
| 16:35.56 | iCEBrkr | Nugget: I agree with you there.. But that's on my SidekickII |
| 16:36.01 | *** join/#asterisk easel (n=erik@interlink-gw1.ilsw.com) |
| 16:36.02 | Sedorox | in 1.0.10... ztdummy.. choppy audio... this due to having a OHCI USB controller and/or SMP system? |
| 16:36.12 | ManxPower | backblue, not if you have to do it from a DTMF keypad. |
| 16:36.14 | Nugget | but there's already plenty of methods to get around that, and going forward there will surely be more. |
| 16:36.15 | *** join/#asterisk MSchroeder (n=root@216.64.133.250) |
| 16:36.36 | ManxPower | Nugget, then you have to maintain TWO dialplans. One for URIs and one for digits. |
| 16:36.40 | backblue | ManxPower: so the problem its not my idea, its your phones... |
| 16:36.44 | ManxPower | Sorry, but I have enough work already. |
| 16:36.51 | backblue | change your phones, and your users will give you a kiss |
| 16:37.00 | Nugget | well, no, not really, but you and I have already been around the ringer on my fucked-up dialplan so let's not go there. :) |
| 16:37.02 | ManxPower | backblue, It's not your idea. It's the idea of the people that invented SIP. |
| 16:37.11 | [TK]D-Fender|AFK | nugget : Use Sphinx and say they URI...... |
| 16:37.14 | [TK]D-Fender|AFK | the* |
| 16:37.18 | ManxPower | backblue, Change my phones to softphones? Never in a billion years. |
| 16:37.28 | backblue | hoo nice, i want to ask for a pizza, lets check my pizza restaurant web page, and see the email from them. |
| 16:37.34 | Nugget | it's possible to make asterisk do exactly what backblue wants, but I don't suggest it. |
| 16:37.49 | backblue | ManxPower: change your phones, to cisco phones |
| 16:37.50 | iCEBrkr | Nugget: Think about the future man!! |
| 16:38.00 | iCEBrkr | THE FUTURE IS OURS! |
| 16:38.06 | [TK]D-Fender|AFK | backblue : pass the crack please? :) |
| 16:38.06 | Nugget | because asterisk isn't designed to do it, so you'll constantly be fighting the current, and two because of people in here who don't share that vision for asterisk's future development. |
| 16:38.09 | kuku5 | Nugget: what address book do you use? |
| 16:38.09 | backblue | have a centralized addr book, and you are up to a near future. |
| 16:38.17 | ManxPower | backblue, Cisco will not allow me to dial letters without lots of hassle. |
| 16:38.17 | Nugget | kuku5: I wrote my own |
| 16:38.24 | ManxPower | unless it's in the address book, of course. |
| 16:38.31 | kuku5 | Nugget: web based? |
| 16:38.39 | ManxPower | but %95 of the places my users call are NOT in their address book. |
| 16:38.45 | Nugget | os x address book with an xml component for my cisco phones. |
| 16:38.50 | Nugget | I can place a call from either place |
| 16:38.57 | backblue | ManxPower: yes, that can be a problem. |
| 16:39.01 | Nugget | ManxPower: yes, but we run asterisk, not manxpowerisk. |
| 16:39.07 | Nugget | your needs aren't really relevant to me |
| 16:39.26 | ManxPower | Nugget, I'm saying that YOUR way is not compatable with the way most people do business. |
| 16:39.33 | kuku5 | Nugget: so you use the manager? |
| 16:39.33 | Nugget | Why should I care about that? |
| 16:40.07 | Nugget | Or, more precisely, why should I let that deter me from doing what I want to do? |
| 16:40.30 | ManxPower | backblue, As Nugget says, you can torture Asterisk into doing what you want, but Asterisk was NOT designed to operate in the way you want. |
| 16:40.31 | kuku5 | free * free * free *! |
| 16:40.33 | kuku5 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:40.42 | eKo1 | dag nabbit...even with iax2 and the 'switch =>' statement, the dial-status is always ANSWERED... |
| 16:40.51 | ManxPower | Asterisk is designed to have extensions be numbers. |
| 16:41.15 | MSchroeder | Excuse me, but could someone with SCCP experience and some time please msg me? Thanks. |
| 16:41.20 | ManxPower | eKo1, I think your carrier is answering the call |
| 16:41.30 | eKo1 | yeah, that could be. those fucks |
| 16:41.36 | kuku5 | :) |
| 16:41.43 | eKo1 | but why would they answer some and not others |
| 16:41.48 | ManxPower | eKo1, As you can see on Server B Asterisk thinks the destination answered. |
| 16:41.56 | kuku5 | "quality assurance" |
| 16:42.39 | *** join/#asterisk UlbabraB (n=caplaz@host23-25.pool82106.interbusiness.it) |
| 16:42.39 | eKo1 | hmm... |
| 16:42.53 | ManxPower | eKo1, pri debug span x |
| 16:42.59 | ManxPower | will tell you more. |
| 16:43.03 | ManxPower | don't ask me to help you read it. |
| 16:44.01 | eKo1 | let's see... |
| 16:48.38 | *** join/#asterisk shido6 (n=shido6@d221-68-216.commercial.cgocable.net) |
| 16:49.43 | eKo1 | you're right. the call is being answered by my carrier. wtf?! |
| 16:50.10 | *** join/#asterisk apardo (n=_apardo@155.Red-83-44-177.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 16:50.46 | *** join/#asterisk L|NUX (n=linux@202.63.195.147) |
| 16:51.16 | backblue | ManxPower: yes, i understand, tks, nice talk. |
| 16:51.50 | *** join/#asterisk syzygybsd (n=chatzill@66.226.228.204.cpe.speedyquick.net) |
| 16:54.42 | *** join/#asterisk riddlebox (n=james@24-217-15-91.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) |
| 16:57.31 | *** join/#asterisk mishehu (i=mishehu@cshells.shavedgoats.net) |
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| 17:01.03 | Delvar | has cut been depricated? |
| 17:01.12 | *** join/#asterisk tidify (n=tidify@24-182-200-159.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
| 17:01.12 | lo_tech | . |
| 17:01.23 | *** join/#asterisk user1002 (n=telefoni@ACB2EB49.ipt.aol.com) |
| 17:01.46 | *** join/#asterisk SwK (n=SwK@12-219-151-128.client.mchsi.com) |
| 17:02.34 | fryfrog | http://www.bustedtees.com/shirts/speakercity <-- i don't get it :/ |
| 17:03.36 | user1002 | Hi, I have a total of 6 Digium TE 405P Cards for sale, used 2 months. My asking-price is EUR 4800,--. You get an invoice, too. |
| 17:03.54 | SkramX | invoice?! I love invoices, haha |
| 17:04.58 | fugitivo | how much without invoice? |
| 17:05.03 | Delvar | No application 'CUT' for extension ... no app_cut.so :( |
| 17:05.05 | Bobacus_Bum | fryfrog: did you ever see old school |
| 17:05.22 | kuku5 | how do I specify in the dial plan ( extensions.conf ) exten => _01148[NOT 6]. |
| 17:05.25 | user1002 | I have to sell with invoice. |
| 17:05.42 | fryfrog | Bobacus_Bum: no :( |
| 17:06.02 | Bobacus_Bum | well thats what that tshirt is from, one of the main charectors worked there |
| 17:06.18 | fryfrog | ah |
| 17:09.45 | Bobacus_Bum | http://www.bustedtees.com/shirts/condiments <-- almost retarded |
| 17:10.41 | Qwell | kuku5: [123457890] |
| 17:10.47 | TonyM | SIP question: how can I make Asterisk send an UNREGISTER to a SIP server with which it has registered? |
| 17:11.44 | TonyM | I want to change to a different box, but the new box is getting a "403 Login limit exceeded", even though the original box is no longer registering |
| 17:15.50 | kuku5 | thanks |
| 17:17.12 | CoffeeIV_ | Hi guys -- I am sending a fax from a call file and I am getting empty faxes on the other end. I've messed up some step of it -- dial plan, converting pdf to tiff/g3, or the call file -- please check out my pastebin and I'll appreciate any advice: http://pastebin.ca/34617 |
| 17:22.10 | eKo1 | hmm...pri debug span 1 shows the following: Progress Description: Call is not end-to-end ISDN; further call progress information may be available inband. (1) |
| 17:22.28 | fryfrog | I think i'd like one of almost each of those shirts |
| 17:22.32 | fryfrog | they are quite funny |
| 17:28.49 | ManxPower | eKo1, I think that's common |
| 17:30.54 | Delvar | hmm Function CUT not registered |
| 17:31.10 | Delvar | how do i use CUT on cvs? |
| 17:32.02 | eKo1 | ManxPower: oh good. but then i'm not getting any call progress info. which means it isn't available inband |
| 17:34.38 | Delvar | arggg its doing my brain in |
| 17:35.25 | *** join/#asterisk CunningPike (n=arodgers@S010600095b33697f.vc.shawcable.net) |
| 17:36.18 | CunningPike | Greetings all: Does anyone know if #include works in voicemail.conf? If so, how does * handle password changes if the voicemail entry is in an included file? |
| 17:36.52 | *** join/#asterisk Jammy (n=jammy@24.244.182.192) |
| 17:37.24 | mutilator | anyone used webSTONE before? |
| 17:38.12 | jluk | Just been reading that dial by 'email like' discussion. |
| 17:38.12 | tzafrir_laptop | CunningPike, #include generally works. Unless you use vmail.cgi |
| 17:38.16 | _Sam-- | is there any FXO hardware that could fit in a rack mount chassis? |
| 17:38.19 | jluk | What's the problem - it works. |
| 17:38.23 | *** join/#asterisk ast-newbie (n=newbie@80.93.236.106) |
| 17:38.32 | jluk | you just map names to extensions |
| 17:38.40 | file[desk] | ManxPower: how is thy intarweb connexion? |
| 17:38.42 | CunningPike | tzafrir_laptop: Thanks - I'll try it out....... |
| 17:38.44 | *** join/#asterisk stkn (n=stkn@gentoo/developer/pdpc.active.stkn) |
| 17:38.57 | ast-newbie | need help with ztdummy don't want to work |
| 17:39.11 | tzafrir_laptop | CunningPike, if it doesn't work: let me know of your asterisk version |
| 17:39.14 | ast-newbie | linux kernel 2.6 usb-uhci loaded |
| 17:39.19 | ManxPower | file[desk], HIGH LATENCY BUT FAST |
| 17:39.21 | CunningPike | OK - we're on 1.2.1 |
| 17:39.33 | CunningPike | I'll give it a try on our test server and see how it goes |
| 17:39.38 | TonyM | ast-newbie: ztdummy doesn't use usb under 2.6 kernel |
| 17:39.38 | tzafrir_laptop | you don't need usb for ztdummy in 2.6 |
| 17:39.52 | file[desk] | ManxPower: nifty, sorta |
| 17:40.01 | ManxPower | SORTA |
| 17:40.01 | tzafrir_laptop | ast-newbie, kernel? distro? zaptel version? |
| 17:40.09 | CunningPike | tzafrir_laptop: Are you the tzafrir of Xirxom fame? |
| 17:40.11 | ast-newbie | @<tzafrir_laptop> i know but i wont work |
| 17:40.25 | tzafrir_laptop | what error do you get from 'modprobe zaptel' ? |
| 17:40.32 | tzafrir_laptop | CunningPike, yes, from Xorcom |
| 17:40.36 | ast-newbie | @<tzafrir_laptop> i got just funny noices when i load ztdummy |
| 17:40.46 | CunningPike | tzafrir_laptop: Apologies for the typo - oops :) |
| 17:40.50 | ast-newbie | @<tzafrir_laptop>none errors |
| 17:40.55 | *** join/#asterisk Kynetix (n=syro@ip-143-80.sn1.eutelia.it) |
| 17:41.10 | tzafrir_laptop | ast-newbie, so how can you tell that there is an error? |
| 17:41.27 | tzafrir_laptop | CunningPike, do you have a problem with such includes? |
| 17:41.35 | CunningPike | Not yet ;) |
| 17:41.48 | CunningPike | I'll give it a try and see if it works for me |
| 17:42.23 | Kynetix | good day at all, i'm a newbie of asterisk |
| 17:42.25 | ast-newbie | @<tzafrir_laptop> i can't but as said before when i load ztdummy |
| 17:42.41 | ast-newbie | meetme won't work |
| 17:42.50 | Kynetix | someone know the hardware needing for a little call-center completly voip? |
| 17:43.19 | tzafrir_laptop | ast-newbie, head -c 0 /dev/zap/pseudo |
| 17:43.26 | jluk | kaldemar: depends on what you call a 'little call center' |
| 17:43.27 | tzafrir_laptop | does it give any error? |
| 17:43.53 | jluk | kaldemar: sorry meant for Kynetix |
| 17:43.55 | tzafrir_laptop | (in the linux CLI) |
| 17:44.00 | jluk | Ky: depends on what you call a 'little call center' |
| 17:44.22 | Kynetix | i work in a little society, and there is a telemarketing work before the contact with the clients |
| 17:44.30 | ast-newbie | @<tzafrir_laptop> no |
| 17:44.57 | tzafrir_laptop | if this gives you no errors, then you have a zaptel timing source. |
| 17:44.59 | Kynetix | my boss and me wants know the hardware for reduce all the call-center ina a little group af 6-10 voip phone |
| 17:45.16 | TonyM | ast-newbie: look in ztdummy.c and find the line #define USE_RTC |
| 17:45.18 | Kynetix | for calling mobile and home number |
| 17:45.26 | TonyM | is it surrounded by #if 0 ?? |
| 17:45.29 | ManxPower | file[desk], as soon as I can deal with the cableing I'll route SSH via dialup, which will be lower latency |
| 17:45.38 | jluk | Kynetix: what sort of incoming phone line - PRI ? |
| 17:45.46 | file[desk] | ManxPower: good good |
| 17:45.47 | tzafrir_laptop | ast-newbie, use zttest to check if it actually works |
| 17:46.09 | tzafrir_laptop | But even if it is lousy, meetme should work and not generate an error |
| 17:46.26 | harlequin516 | Can I pass variables using setVar Application and Data when orginiating a call? |
| 17:46.40 | Kynetix | incoming dial pass into the adsl line of society and the same for outgoing dial |
| 17:46.53 | Kynetix | all the sistem based on viop phone |
| 17:46.57 | tzafrir_laptop | ast-newbie, what error do you get from meetme? Did you try restarting asterisk? |
| 17:47.11 | Kynetix | for calling everykind of harware telephone |
| 17:47.29 | jluk | Kynetix: so voip all the way to termination provider. |
| 17:47.34 | harlequin516 | Or is SetVar only for Context Extension Priority Originates? |
| 17:47.43 | Kynetix | yes |
| 17:47.50 | ast-newbie | @<tzafrir_laptop> i am not that fast wait for sec |
| 17:48.13 | jluk | Kynetix: so all you need is the servers + phones and away you go. |
| 17:48.31 | jluk | Kynetix: Assuming you've enough bandwidth to handle the calls. |
| 17:48.48 | Kynetix | for bandwidth is not a problem |
| 17:48.54 | harlequin516 | Anyone expert here know call originate? |
| 17:49.08 | Kynetix | i need a powerfull server or i can use a old pc? |
| 17:49.20 | ManxPower | Kynetix, Yes. |
| 17:49.39 | Kynetix | powerfull, like a P4 architecture? |
| 17:50.05 | jluk | Kynetix: If you're only handling 10 extensions then most modern PCs will do. |
| 17:50.05 | Kynetix | example: P4 1GB ram and 80GB HD is sufficient? |
| 17:50.12 | jluk | Kynetix: yes. |
| 17:50.17 | Kynetix | ok |
| 17:50.26 | Kynetix | exist ethernet voip phone? |
| 17:50.53 | *** join/#asterisk A-Tuin (n=a-tuin@steves.ip.v4.me.uk) |
| 17:52.09 | jluk | Kynetix: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+phones |
| 17:52.12 | *** join/#asterisk JunK-Y (n=junky@67.68.74.139) |
| 17:52.15 | Dandan | anyone using PA168S based phone? |
| 17:52.37 | CunningPike | tzafrir_laptop: OK - I renamed my existing voicemail.conf to voicemail.default and then included it in a new voicemail.conf file. I then changed my password - funny thing is, the file doesn't show the password change, but it's changed when I log in. Does * cache voicemail.conf? |
| 17:53.16 | benjk | for 10 extensions a 500MHz Celeron is even good enough |
| 17:53.23 | *** join/#asterisk Ariel_ (n=Ariel@adsl-068-157-125-248.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) |
| 17:53.53 | ast-newbie | @tonyM there isn't any line containing USE_RTC |
| 17:54.24 | Kynetix | thanks a lot |
| 17:54.44 | CunningPike | tzafrir_laptop: When I restart *, it reverts to the old password in the file, so there must be some caching going on. However, I think when the entries are directly in voicemail.conf, they get written right away.... |
| 17:54.57 | TonyM | ast-newbie: did you get zaptel from CVS or FTP? |
| 17:56.22 | ast-newbie | i am not sure my friend hwo is linux administrator helped me with installation and he brought source files |
| 17:56.34 | TonyM | sounds like you have old ones |
| 17:56.40 | TonyM | what version is your kernel? |
| 17:56.44 | ast-newbie | maybe |
| 17:56.49 | [TK]D-Fender|AFK | PA168 = cheap junk. |
| 17:57.13 | ast-newbie | 2.6 |
| 17:57.16 | tzafrir_laptop | CunningPike, I needed to use a script to change the passwords |
| 17:57.30 | TonyM | 2.6.what? |
| 17:57.32 | TonyM | uname -r |
| 17:57.52 | CunningPike | tzafrir_laptop: OK - that confirms what I thought, then - it doesn't write through to included files |
| 17:58.07 | ast-newbie | 2.6.13-15-smp |
| 17:58.09 | CunningPike | tzafrir_laptop: Many thanks for your help - and best of luck with your products - they look great |
| 17:58.43 | TonyM | ok, with 2.6.13 onwards you need the ztdummy from zaptel 1.2 - older ones won't work cos the kernel timing is different |
| 17:58.58 | TonyM | you need one that has USE_RTC in the source code |
| 17:59.06 | TonyM | for ztdummy.c |
| 17:59.11 | ast-newbie | but i have asterisk 1.2 |
| 17:59.25 | TonyM | but you don't appear to have zaptel 1.2 |
| 17:59.46 | tzafrir_laptop | Note that zaptel 1.2 should generally work with asterisk 1.0 |
| 17:59.55 | tzafrir_laptop | nm |
| 18:00.04 | TonyM | yes, but ast-newbie appears to be the other way round |
| 18:00.11 | ast-newbie | yeah its 1.0.9.2 thanks a lot i am going to download it rright away |
| 18:00.21 | TonyM | ok, that should fix it |
| 18:04.04 | tzanger | tonym == anthm ? |
| 18:04.53 | [TK]D-Fender|AFK | tzanger : not unless he moves across the ocean... |
| 18:05.58 | easel | anybody here using 802.11 voip phones? |
| 18:07.58 | loud | sued to. |
| 18:07.59 | tzanger | heh |
| 18:08.00 | loud | used* |
| 18:08.08 | easel | hah. i'm guessing it sucked? |
| 18:08.39 | loud | sort of, used to have a zyxel prestige 2k, i gave it away |
| 18:08.55 | [TK]D-Fender|AFK | Crappy battery-life, interfaces, range, etc. So far it looks like "just get an ATA" |
| 18:09.06 | loud | but thats me, there ar elots of new wireless voip phones that i havent tried yet. |
| 18:09.13 | easel | hmm. we're standing here debating exactly that =P |
| 18:10.00 | easel | we've got a bunch of snom 190's... and they are pretty much crap compared to the cisco 7960's we just go in... i don't want to take leap back by adding a wifi phone to the mix |
| 18:10.32 | [TK]D-Fender|AFK | 7960's.... ouch. |
| 18:10.44 | loud | <3 7960's |
| 18:10.44 | easel | not a fan? |
| 18:10.54 | *** join/#asterisk hugo-v6 (n=hugo@ns1.bundesunixminister.de) |
| 18:10.56 | [TK]D-Fender|AFK | Just pricey. |
| 18:11.02 | hugo-v6 | hiho |
| 18:11.03 | [TK]D-Fender|AFK | Very nice, don't get me wrong |
| 18:11.07 | easel | they're expensive but worth it in my book.... dealing with cisco on the phone to get firmware etc is total ass |
| 18:11.15 | loud | they are expensive outside the us. |
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| 18:11.34 | easel | the call quality etc is way better than snom thats for sure, and the 'feel' is right |
| 18:11.58 | [TK]D-Fender|AFK | Snom just looks awkward to me, and I really dislike the LCD'sa |
| 18:12.31 | azzie_ | Snom's LCD usability is close to absolute zero |
| 18:12.40 | azzie_ | makes you wonder why they did it at all :) |
| 18:12.44 | CunningPike | We're using a UTStarcom Wifi phone - so far so good |
| 18:12.59 | hugo-v6 | .o(i heared snom?) |
| 18:13.05 | easel | yeah, its a waste... somebody needs to make an open source snom firmware, maybe it could get to the point of making the hardware usable |
| 18:13.31 | hugo-v6 | got someone echoes on snom 190's? |
| 18:13.32 | easel | cunningpike: hows the battery life? will it run 8 hours between charges? |
| 18:13.42 | loud | hah |
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| 18:14.08 | CunningPike | Not sure - we keep ours on the charger most of the time - help desk folks use it when they all need to leave their desks |
| 18:14.19 | CunningPike | But only for short periods at a time |
| 18:14.37 | easel | ahh, ok. call quality is generally ok? do you have multiple lines registered on it? |
| 18:14.43 | easel | is it the model F1000? |
| 18:15.01 | CunningPike | One line - quality is actually quite good. Yes, the FT1000 |
| 18:15.08 | CunningPike | Or whatever it is |
| 18:15.26 | easel | hmm cool. maybe i'll try that one instead of the zyxel |
| 18:15.35 | CunningPike | The call drops temporarily if you switch from one AP to another, but it picks it up again |
| 18:15.39 | iCEBrkr | Is there any way for zttools to take a PRI OUT of loopback? |
| 18:15.57 | easel | cool. this one will be used on a single AP so that won't be an issue for us |
| 18:16.01 | [TK]D-Fender|AFK | iCEBrkr : Nope, all telco side... |
| 18:16.04 | iCEBrkr | ok |
| 18:16.13 | loud | tell your telco to stop playikng with your stuff |
| 18:16.51 | easel | ok so since i'm chatting... anybody know how I can configure a zap channel and a zip channel to act like an old fashioned analog phone directly plugged into the line? |
| 18:16.57 | CunningPike | It's a little fiddly to set up, but works fine |
| 18:17.06 | iCEBrkr | [TK]D-Fender: Can zttools put the PRI in loop back? |
| 18:17.16 | mog_work | has anyone heard of someone doing iax2 p2p without an asterisk server |
| 18:17.22 | mog_work | like softphone directly to softphone |
| 18:17.41 | [TK]D-Fender | iCEBrkr : not afaik |
| 18:17.45 | mog_work | i realize it is possible |
| 18:17.56 | mog_work | i am just wondering if there is an implementation besides asterisk |
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| 18:18.01 | [TK]D-Fender | iCEBrkr : you can do it yourself, just make a cross-over dongle. |
| 18:18.01 | Ariel_ | mog_work, you should be able to dial to IP address directly |
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| 18:18.55 | mog_work | yes i realize but is any client set to recieve calls on gues |
| 18:18.55 | mog_work | t |
| 18:19.01 | mog_work | like i see how it could work |
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| 18:19.11 | mog_work | i just am wondering if their exists said implementation |
| 18:19.12 | iCEBrkr | [TK]D-Fender: Well the PRI was in loopback |
| 18:23.00 | [TK]D-Fender | :/ |
| 18:23.28 | TheCops | hiya [TK]D-Fender |
| 18:23.29 | TheCops | :)| |
| 18:23.32 | [TK]D-Fender | hey |
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| 18:26.02 | Seldon1975 | yaay |
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| 18:32.39 | Kynetix | where can i find a book for dummies for asterisk???:D |
| 18:37.04 | mog_work | ~thebook |
| 18:37.06 | jbot | hmm... thebook is Asterisk: The Future of Telephony, released under the Creative Commons license and available at http://www.asteriskdocs.org << Read the book online! |
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| 18:40.15 | Kynetix | thanks;) |
| 18:40.59 | iCEBrkr | yay, back up and running |
| 18:41.00 | djMax | so I just upgraded to 1.2 from some ancient thing from April. Things startup fine from the console, but not with /etc/init.d/asterist start. Any quick thoughts? |
| 18:41.23 | iCEBrkr | [TK]D-Fender: Get this. Their NOC doesn't like to see things in alarm, so after awhile they disable the circuits or someshit. Which sounds retarded to me |
| 18:42.12 | djMax | magically, it works now, never mind. |
| 18:42.29 | djMax | separate note, has anybody implemented "call pickup from VM"? |
| 18:44.40 | [TK]D-Fender | iCEBrkr : These guys amazingly find new ways to lower my opinion of them.... |
| 18:45.20 | *** join/#asterisk alephcom (n=alephcom@host75.net14.mcsnet.ca) |
| 18:45.26 | alephcom | Hello Everyone |
| 18:46.36 | iCEBrkr | [TK]D-Fender: Same here.. But I still think the zaptel stuff put this thing in loopback |
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| 18:47.15 | [TK]D-Fender | I don't buy that... |
| 18:47.25 | [TK]D-Fender | You said their side claimed to be CPE, no? |
| 18:47.35 | iCEBrkr | [TK]D-Fender: repeatedly :P |
| 18:47.54 | [TK]D-Fender | No, thats not zaptel... they are complete and utter dumb-asses..... |
| 18:48.07 | iCEBrkr | Well something put it in loop back.. |
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| 18:48.31 | djMax | This Steal() application, will it do VM pickup for single channel *? |
| 18:48.43 | iCEBrkr | 9 out of 13 emails in my bulk folder are about the XBox 360 |
| 18:48.43 | iCEBrkr | lol |
| 18:49.01 | file[desk] | omg hi all |
| 18:49.14 | iCEBrkr | hello omg |
| 18:49.23 | file[desk] | that's like -so- hot |
| 18:49.25 | fryfrog | omgwtfbbq! |
| 18:49.34 | [TK]D-Fender | If they say they're CPE (CUSTOMER Premises Equipment), thats nothing to do with ZAptel. They are schitzoid. |
| 18:49.57 | iCEBrkr | [TK]D-Fender: Asterisk was repeating "We say we're CPE but they say they're CPE too" |
| 18:50.02 | iCEBrkr | which is a loopback apparently |
| 18:50.23 | [TK]D-Fender | Guess so.... |
| 18:50.24 | iCEBrkr | If I setup zapata to pri_net, it'd repeat the same message, but with Network instead of CPE |
| 18:50.29 | _T3_ | anyone knows how to connect asterisk to pstn network using safari c3 |
| 18:50.38 | [TK]D-Fender | Confuse them by acting as the other side :D |
| 18:51.10 | iCEBrkr | The guy took it out of loopback and someone else reset the line and all of a sudden everything works. |
| 18:51.28 | iCEBrkr | These NOC guys were good about it. |
| 18:51.43 | iCEBrkr | It's my rep that pisses me off.. She never calls me back |
| 18:51.53 | iCEBrkr | So I've been collecting the numbers of tech guys so I can bypass her |
| 18:52.03 | _T3_ | is possible use setcallerpres with sip?? |
| 18:52.31 | iCEBrkr | Dude, this rocks. My answering machine detection code now works with my cellphone vmail |
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| 18:54.07 | fryfrog | Answering machine detection code? |
| 18:54.12 | iCEBrkr | well, not code, but logic |
| 18:54.26 | fryfrog | what use does it serve? |
| 18:54.30 | fryfrog | er, purpose? |
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| 18:54.49 | iCEBrkr | fryfrog: Well you wouldn't want to leave some IVR menu on someones answering machine. |
| 18:55.02 | iCEBrkr | So it determines it's a machine and hangs up |
| 18:55.17 | fryfrog | Wooosh! |
| 18:55.24 | fryfrog | thats the sound of that going *right* over my head :) |
| 18:55.29 | iCEBrkr | haha |
| 18:55.40 | fryfrog | what is an IVR menu? |
| 18:55.55 | [wiebel] | I = no clue |
| 18:55.55 | iCEBrkr | fryfrog: I'm using Asterisk like a predictive dial, but not so much predictive... |
| 18:56.00 | [wiebel] | VR is voirce responce |
| 18:56.09 | iCEBrkr | Interactive voice response |
| 18:56.30 | iCEBrkr | I'm not using it for telemarketing so just get that outta your heads right now |
| 18:56.31 | fryfrog | oidc |
| 18:56.31 | iCEBrkr | :) |
| 18:56.44 | fryfrog | == oh i don't cee :) |
| 18:56.55 | fryfrog | like, you call a person and say "press 1 for free monkeys" |
| 18:57.08 | fryfrog | or er, "say "free monkeys" for free monkeys"? |
| 18:57.10 | iCEBrkr | But it does dial out and it has to make sure it's not an answering machine.. The idea is to be transparent and unannoying as possible. |
| 18:57.28 | iCEBrkr | fryfrog: Press 1 for... Is IVR, yes. |
| 18:57.34 | easel | anybody got any an idea how i can make a sip channel connect directly to a zap channel whenever i pick up the phone? as in simulate an old fashioned analog handset on the line... |
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| 18:57.50 | fryfrog | application might be... if you have a VM, it would call you and say "press1 to hear your messages"? |
| 18:57.53 | iCEBrkr | easel: A 'red-phone'? |
| 18:58.07 | easel | hrm. perhaps, i'm unfamiliar with that term |
| 18:58.09 | iCEBrkr | fryfrog: That too |
| 18:58.11 | fryfrog | a "batphone" |
| 18:58.17 | fryfrog | but i don't think that is what he is asking |
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| 18:58.27 | fryfrog | you mean, pick up phone and get dial tone? |
| 18:58.38 | easel | yes. pick up phone, connect to analog line on my channel bank immediately |
| 18:58.39 | fryfrog | NOT pick up phone, mom's phone is auto-dialed |
| 18:58.41 | iCEBrkr | easel: Red-phones are the phones you pick up and dial somewhere without actually dialing or doing anything |
| 18:58.49 | easel | ah, no, i don't want that... |
| 18:58.55 | iCEBrkr | oh |
| 18:59.14 | easel | i've got analog phones on desks... and in the transition to voip process, i want to be able to drop the current analog lines into the voip phones as one of the 'lines' |
| 18:59.15 | iCEBrkr | If that's what you want, then why is asterisk in the loop? |
| 18:59.17 | GXTi | dont most sip phones have a builtin dialtone? |
| 18:59.25 | fugitivo | easel: what phone are you using? |
| 18:59.33 | easel | cisco 7960's |
| 18:59.39 | fryfrog | do you just want people to *hear* the dialtone? |
| 18:59.43 | fugitivo | easel: check if you have the "hotline" option |
| 18:59.46 | easel | i hve some snom 190's but i'm tryin gto get rid of them |
| 18:59.50 | ast-newbie | when i compiled zaptel i got following error or warning "clock skew detected. your build may be incomplite." |
| 18:59.50 | fugitivo | easel: that'll dial when you pickup the phone |
| 18:59.55 | ast-newbie | any help |
| 19:00.06 | easel | fugi: ok ,i'll check for that |
| 19:00.07 | fugitivo | ast-newbie: check the time of your machine |
| 19:00.14 | iCEBrkr | ast-newbie: Your clock isn't set correctly on that machine |
| 19:00.24 | iCEBrkr | date |
| 19:00.30 | fugitivo | easel: you can setup a number to dial automaticaly when you pickup the phone |
| 19:00.38 | iCEBrkr | fugitivo: I don't think he wants that. |
| 19:00.49 | fugitivo | easel: isn't that what you want? |
| 19:00.53 | easel | ok, so i can dial a number. but then i need that number to connect to the zap channel |
| 19:01.12 | easel | well, i want it to appear as if asterisk isn't involved on that particular line |
| 19:01.13 | fugitivo | easel: yes |
| 19:01.18 | iCEBrkr | easel: I'm actually still confused as to what you're wanting to do. |
| 19:01.21 | easel | pick up handset, connect directly to the zap channel |
| 19:01.33 | iCEBrkr | Why's it matter? |
| 19:01.35 | easel | currently, the analog phone is plugged into the line directly |
| 19:01.35 | fugitivo | easel: what do you mean by "connect directly to the zap channel"? |
| 19:01.46 | easel | i'm going to plug the line into the channel bank |
| 19:01.50 | fugitivo | easel: ok ok |
| 19:01.53 | fugitivo | i understand |
| 19:01.58 | fugitivo | you don't want the pbx tone |
| 19:02.02 | easel | (right) |
| 19:02.02 | fugitivo | you want the phone line tone directly |
| 19:02.03 | fugitivo | right? |
| 19:02.16 | easel | i want to give users the option to use the pbx tone and make voip calls |
| 19:02.27 | easel | or to choose a line on their phone, and just get the old fashioned line tone |
| 19:02.34 | easel | so they can transfer calls using centrex, etc, etc |
| 19:02.58 | easel | if it's not possible i'll survive, but i was thinking it might make transition a bit easier for people |
| 19:03.10 | fugitivo | do you plan to use an ivr for that? |
| 19:03.24 | iCEBrkr | fugitivo: Why not just use a dialplan.. If they dial 8 it'll do VoIP |
| 19:03.51 | ast-newbie | do i need to configure somthing if i want to use ztdummy with asterisk |
| 19:03.55 | fugitivo | easel: iCEBrkr is right, why not just use 9 or 8 to go to the pstn? |
| 19:04.04 | easel | i've already got that set up |
| 19:04.16 | easel | doing that doesn't enable them to use call transfer etc |
| 19:04.29 | fugitivo | easel: what call transfer? |
| 19:04.30 | iCEBrkr | I did that at home when I has PSTN. I'd have to dial 9 to get a local line.. otherwise it went out VoIP |
| 19:04.33 | easel | i gotta run, i'll bbiab and hassle you all |
| 19:04.38 | *** part/#asterisk CunningPike (n=arodgers@S010600095b33697f.vc.shawcable.net) |
| 19:04.38 | easel | centrex call transfer |
| 19:04.47 | fugitivo | i don't know what is that |
| 19:04.53 | easel | as in the call transfer provided by the analog legacy pbx |
| 19:04.54 | iCEBrkr | They should be able to transfer, it's just Asterisk would stil be in the loop |
| 19:04.58 | easel | hmm |
| 19:05.01 | easel | i'll have to check it |
| 19:05.14 | fugitivo | easel: asterisk can do everything |
| 19:05.31 | iCEBrkr | lol |
| 19:06.58 | tzafrir_laptop | ast-newbie, nothing to configure for ztdummy |
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| 19:07.28 | tzafrir_laptop | ast-newbie, is that module loaded? lsmod | grep ^zaptel |
| 19:07.48 | iCEBrkr | zaptel.init is kinda fuxored |
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| 19:10.06 | tzafrir_laptop | once again I ask: short of writing my own program in C/perl: any simple way to pipe command to the asterisk ctl socket? |
| 19:10.22 | iCEBrkr | manage port? |
| 19:10.34 | backblue | hi, i pluged in my fxo card x100p clone, its working with zaptel, now i need some tut to get it working with asterisk, does anyone can show me a good howto? i cant fund none with fxo, only with fxs. |
| 19:10.36 | iCEBrkr | asterisk -r -x <command> |
| 19:11.10 | tzafrir_laptop | that requires a setup of user-name and password in advance. You also can't easily control the permissions of sockets (short of complex selinux setup) |
| 19:11.15 | iCEBrkr | backblue: what's not working? |
| 19:11.30 | iCEBrkr | tzafrir_laptop: eh, thems the brakes |
| 19:11.34 | tzafrir_laptop | iCEBrkr, you can't pipe a stream of commands to asterisk -r |
| 19:11.47 | iCEBrkr | tzafrir_laptop: WTF are you trying to do? |
| 19:12.01 | ast-newbie | yes it is thanks for help |
| 19:12.04 | tzafrir_laptop | and starting asterisk for every now line is a pain |
| 19:12.16 | iCEBrkr | huh? |
| 19:12.44 | tzafrir_laptop | one thing is to partially re-populate the asterisk db after asterisk has started. |
| 19:12.53 | alephcom | tazfir_laptop: What are you trying to do. It's not that hard to do it in perl |
| 19:13.20 | iCEBrkr | tzafrir_laptop: No offense, but I often wonder what people are thinking when they go down roads like this. |
| 19:13.21 | backblue | iCEBrkr: i need to intergrate with asterisk, how does asterisk knows from where to get the channels? i configured in zaptel.conf like this "fxsks=1-2 |
| 19:13.27 | iCEBrkr | tzafrir_laptop: like really what are you trying to do.. |
| 19:13.32 | iCEBrkr | end goal. big picture |
| 19:13.34 | backblue | but how does it knows each card each channel is? |
| 19:13.51 | iCEBrkr | backblue: Cuz that's what zaptel does? |
| 19:13.55 | *** join/#asterisk chapeaurouge (n=chap@85.201.81.201) |
| 19:13.56 | iCEBrkr | backblue: /etc/asterisk/zapata.conf |
| 19:14.12 | iCEBrkr | backblue: you tell it how many channels in there too |
| 19:14.13 | tzafrir_laptop | basically: restore configuration for an AMP-based setup. |
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| 19:14.28 | iCEBrkr | oh AMP.. Now I understand everything :P |
| 19:14.37 | tzafrir_laptop | only AMP has a very intense usage of the asterisk database |
| 19:14.45 | tzafrir_laptop | (AMP was never my choice) |
| 19:14.50 | iCEBrkr | AMP == lame |
| 19:15.20 | fugitivo | amp is not lame, just brings more problems :) |
| 19:15.38 | iCEBrkr | If you're trying to sound more positive. Sure |
| 19:15.38 | tzafrir_laptop | fugitivo, it is overly-complex and badly written |
| 19:15.42 | backblue | iCEBrkr: in zapata.conf i have |
| 19:15.56 | iCEBrkr | backblue: ok, then Dial(Zap/1/${EXTEN}) |
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| 19:16.33 | fugitivo | backblue: cat /proc/zaptel/x where x is the number of the channels recognized by zaptel |
| 19:16.45 | backblue | fugitivo: hoo that nice, tks |
| 19:16.51 | tzafrir_laptop | iCEBrkr, still, I need to modify values in the asterisk database. And I can't seem to find any db_* util to manipulate that file . |
| 19:16.52 | backblue | [channels] |
| 19:16.52 | backblue | signalling=fxo_ks |
| 19:16.52 | backblue | language=en |
| 19:16.52 | backblue | context=incoming |
| 19:16.52 | backblue | channel => 1 |
| 19:16.55 | backblue | ups |
| 19:16.58 | backblue | sorry |
| 19:17.01 | tzafrir_laptop | ~pb |
| 19:17.02 | jbot | rumour has it, pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.com/ |
| 19:17.11 | iCEBrkr | tzafrir_laptop: You were screwed the second you used AMP |
| 19:17.19 | backblue | signaling=fxo_ks ? |
| 19:17.26 | backblue | or fxs_ks? |
| 19:17.31 | backblue | my card its fxo |
| 19:17.40 | tzafrir_laptop | for an FXO card: fkx_ks |
| 19:17.57 | backblue | fkx_ks? |
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| 19:18.10 | Kynetix | fugitivo: are you italian??? |
| 19:18.10 | tzafrir_laptop | iCEBrkr, I asked a specific technical question, actually |
| 19:18.14 | tzafrir_laptop | for an FXO card: fks_ks |
| 19:18.27 | fugitivo | tzafrir_laptop: a gui for asterisk database would be nice |
| 19:18.31 | fugitivo | Kynetix: no |
| 19:18.35 | _T3_ | i have a cisco 7912 can i use it with asterisk??? |
| 19:18.46 | Kynetix | ok nothing...;) |
| 19:18.57 | iCEBrkr | _T3_: Does it do SIP? |
| 19:18.57 | tzafrir_laptop | fugitivo, that is *not* what I'm after. I need to do things in a script |
| 19:19.07 | _T3_ | i dont know how to check it |
| 19:19.12 | Kynetix | someone is italina on this channel??? |
| 19:19.13 | iCEBrkr | _T3_: Google? |
| 19:19.16 | _T3_ | i just have the phone |
| 19:19.20 | _T3_ | ohhhhhhh |
| 19:19.26 | backblue | tzafrir_laptop: where does that says? |
| 19:19.30 | backblue | man what? |
| 19:19.35 | _T3_ | in google says that this thing can be setup for sip |
| 19:19.47 | _T3_ | but i dont have callmanager |
| 19:20.01 | _T3_ | neither the sip software |
| 19:20.32 | fugitivo | backblue: if you have fxo modules, you need fxs signalling, if you have fxs modules, you need fxo signalling |
| 19:20.32 | tzafrir_laptop | backblue, you need to set the signalling to "fxo" in zapata.conf and in zaptel.conf |
| 19:20.56 | alephcom | fugitivo: What do you want it to do? |
| 19:20.59 | tzafrir_laptop | oops, confused |
| 19:21.07 | tzafrir_laptop | backblue, you need to set the signalling to "fxs" in zapata.conf and in zaptel.conf |
| 19:21.08 | fugitivo | alephcom: me? |
| 19:21.20 | alephcom | fugitivo: I work with somebody that has a little something put together in php for -realtime but... |
| 19:21.25 | alephcom | yes, you. :-) |
| 19:21.37 | tzafrir_laptop | signalling=fxo_ks in zapata.conf, fxsks=NUM in zaptel.conf |
| 19:21.39 | fugitivo | alephcom: i don't use realtime |
| 19:21.50 | iCEBrkr | People are stoners! |
| 19:22.11 | fugitivo | tzafrir_laptop: no! signalling=fxs_ks! |
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| 19:23.17 | tzafrir_laptop | oops :-( |
| 19:23.22 | fugitivo | :) |
| 19:23.29 | backblue | tzafrir_laptop: hum ok |
| 19:23.47 | backblue | i need chan_local.so or chan_zap.so ? |
| 19:24.14 | fugitivo | backblue: if your modules are fxo, then signalling=fxs_ks in zapata.conf and fxsks=x in zaptel.conf |
| 19:25.34 | backblue | i need one of this .so modules? |
| 19:25.51 | fugitivo | yes |
| 19:26.09 | backblue | which one? |
| 19:26.50 | fugitivo | you want both modules |
| 19:27.49 | backblue | why? |
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| 19:28.28 | fugitivo | backblue: show modules like zap |
| 19:28.29 | fugitivo | backblue: show modules like local |
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| 19:29.41 | backblue | *CLI> show modules like zap |
| 19:29.41 | backblue | Module Description Use Count |
| 19:29.44 | backblue | 0 modules loaded |
| 19:29.50 | iCEBrkr | backblue: you understand al this is docuemented on the wiki? |
| 19:29.52 | backblue | it does not have any |
| 19:30.07 | backblue | iCEBrkr: yes, i asked for the link, because i cant find it. |
| 19:30.18 | iCEBrkr | http://www.voip-info.org?? or you need more? |
| 19:30.22 | backblue | yes |
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| 19:30.31 | backblue | i must be looking for the wrong words |
| 19:30.34 | iCEBrkr | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+config+files |
| 19:30.36 | iCEBrkr | That's part of it |
| 19:30.39 | backblue | probably my mistake |
| 19:30.54 | iCEBrkr | your zaptel.conf and zapata.conf stuff |
| 19:31.28 | fugitivo | backblue: load the modules first |
| 19:32.53 | backblue | well |
| 19:32.57 | backblue | its not loading the modules |
| 19:33.01 | backblue | tomorow i will see this |
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| 19:33.02 | backblue | tks folks |
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| 19:36.51 | mikeyb_work | can a winmodem that works with hylafax under the ltmodem package be used with asterisk? |
| 19:37.35 | *** join/#asterisk seele_ (n=seele@200.124.172.72) |
| 19:38.17 | seele_ | I need to configure asterisk@home with a TDM431 |
| 19:38.21 | seele_ | some help please |
| 19:38.46 | seele_ | my estencions works fine |
| 19:38.54 | seele_ | but my trunks no |
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| 19:39.30 | seele_ | I dont know how to confiure the trunk line |
| 19:39.36 | zishanov | In Asterisk@Home I am trying to make a Sales Queue with 3 Agents for the sake of learning, but it is not working. Can anybody help on this |
| 19:39.49 | tzafrir_laptop | alephcom, thank for the suggestion. converting the C code to perl slashed most of it. |
| 19:40.02 | seele_ | example ... from ext1 mark 0 ... and have a local PSTN tone |
| 19:40.25 | iCEBrkr | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:40.35 | iCEBrkr | Is that supposed to happen? |
| 19:40.39 | iCEBrkr | Like randomly? |
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| 19:42.16 | loud | all the time ? |
| 19:42.20 | loud | or hourly, etc. |
| 19:42.32 | iCEBrkr | hrrm, it's been about 45mins since we reset the PRI |
| 19:43.04 | loud | is acpid enabled ? |
| 19:43.19 | loud | kernel level. |
| 19:43.27 | iCEBrkr | shouldn't be. |
| 19:43.50 | iCEBrkr | I haven't recompiled my kernel and it's not in lsmod |
| 19:43.54 | AgiNamu | When you call Busy/Congestion , does Asterisk actually create those tones? |
| 19:44.40 | AgiNamu | iCEBrkr, yes this is documented in the zaptel or zapata config :) |
| 19:44.55 | AgiNamu | you can change it if you dont want it restarting the PRIs. |
| 19:45.35 | zishanov | Anybody knows how to setup queues in AAH, I couldn't find any help on the Internet |
| 19:45.59 | fugitivo | zishanov: #amportal |
| 19:46.10 | zishanov | ok, I'll try that |
| 19:46.29 | zishanov | thx |
| 19:46.42 | fugitivo | mayority of questions regarding asterisk@home are gui related, not asterisk |
| 19:48.00 | *** join/#asterisk Renacor (n=kvirc@66.238.64.21) |
| 19:48.15 | Renacor | anybody have a good howto setup soundstation 4000 phones with asterisk? |
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| 19:50.19 | [TK]D-Fender | Polycom IP conference phones? |
| 19:51.26 | Renacor | yeah |
| 19:51.50 | [TK]D-Fender | They set up pretty much like any other Sounpoint IP phone. Have you provisioned one before? |
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| 19:54.03 | Renacor | yeah I did 300's |
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| 19:54.11 | Renacor | it uses the same bootrom? |
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| 19:54.24 | [TK]D-Fender | Depends, check the SIP changelog. |
| 19:54.57 | Renacor | where do I find that? |
| 19:54.59 | rculp | I have a compile question if anyone can helped. Tried wiki'ing it first and I may have missed something but |
| 19:55.08 | rculp | trying to change the default pid file location |
| 19:55.16 | rculp | when compiling |
| 19:55.31 | rculp | and it always defaults to /var/run/asterisk.pid and /var/run/asterisk.ctl |
| 19:55.54 | rculp | I want to do it as /var/run/asterisk/asterisk.pid and /var/run/asterisk/asterisk.ctl |
| 19:56.20 | rculp | I edited the defaults.h file, but it reverts back as soon as I do a make install |
| 19:56.23 | rculp | any ideas? :) |
| 19:56.50 | MstlyHrmls | Renacor: as long as you're using a 2.6.x BootROM (or higher), it'll work fine on the IP4000 |
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| 19:59.49 | Renacor | MstlyHrmls: Stupid question, but how can I check what version Im using? |
| 20:00.09 | rculp | n/m, I think I found it |
| 20:00.31 | MstlyHrmls | Renacor: coupole of ways, do you have th ephone booted and handy right now? |
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| 20:01.18 | *** part/#asterisk Lurr (n=pr0ph3t@host-63-69-20-3.compusource.net) |
| 20:01.38 | tzafrir_laptop | rculp, that file i auto-generated. the defaults are in the makefile |
| 20:01.57 | rculp | tzafrir: I just realized I missed one variable in the makefile |
| 20:02.05 | rculp | traced the variables back |
| 20:02.12 | rculp | and grepped for ASTVARRUNDIR |
| 20:02.18 | rculp | and then found it in makefile |
| 20:02.23 | rculp | I think I have it this time |
| 20:02.28 | rculp | after make is done |
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| 20:03.58 | RoyK | zoa: ping |
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| 20:04.22 | RoyK | ~seen zoa |
| 20:04.28 | jbot | zoa is currently on #asterisk (7h 59m 58s). Has said a total of 70 messages. Is idling for 3h 51m 22s |
| 20:04.37 | RoyK | argh |
| 20:06.16 | ceph | . |
| 20:08.41 | upsite | someone using the snom 360 and its buttons with the hint-system &call pickup without patching chan_sip ? |
| 20:09.22 | upsite | or is it possible without patching chan_sip ? ;) |
| 20:09.49 | rculp | setting ASTVARRUNDIR=$(INSTALL_PREFIX)/var/run/asterisk doesn't seem to fix it. the binary now has /var/run/asterisk/asterisk.pid in it instead of /var/run/asterisk.pid but it still decides to create it under /var/run when started manually |
| 20:12.04 | Renacor | MstlyHrmls: yes I do |
| 20:12.43 | FuriousGeorge | so i use the ',t' otpion with dial() for legacy pbx stations we use. the problem is some other IVRs want me to, say, "enter my pin then hit pund" |
| 20:12.47 | FuriousGeorge | *pound |
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| 20:13.01 | iCEBrkr | FuriousGeorge: Yea, I hate that. |
| 20:13.02 | MstlyHrmls | Renacor: ok, if you're running SIP 1.5 and above, you can go Menu->Status->Platform->Phone; then at the bottom of that screen will be the BootROM version |
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| 20:13.47 | FuriousGeorge | iCEBrkr: any way to change it to ## or something |
| 20:13.54 | iCEBrkr | Don't think so |
| 20:14.24 | Renacor | k the sip.ver on my tftp server says 1.4.1.0040 |
| 20:14.26 | iCEBrkr | Actually, I'm pretty sure it's hard coded in dial |
| 20:14.59 | Renacor | MstlyHrmls: where can I get a later version? |
| 20:15.13 | FuriousGeorge | iCEBrkr: nuts |
| 20:16.43 | MstlyHrmls | Renacor: either through "your authorized polycom reseller" (the official line), or poking around a bit on google |
| 20:17.00 | Renacor | heh thanks |
| 20:17.07 | Corydon-w | Anybody ever heard of a monitor blanking when zaptel is loaded? |
| 20:17.36 | iCEBrkr | Corydon-w: That's pretty cool stuff |
| 20:17.38 | MstlyHrmls | Renacor: no problem :-) |
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| 20:21.00 | *** mode/#asterisk [+o denon] by ChanServ |
| 20:21.39 | Assid | anyone seen a way that i can have a followme or something setup ? using php |
| 20:21.58 | pifiu | yooo wasup |
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| 20:22.07 | [TK]D-Fender | Assid : any special reason to use PHP for that? |
| 20:22.26 | Assid | wanna put it into a database |
| 20:22.38 | [TK]D-Fender | That's ASTDB worthy.... |
| 20:22.49 | Assid | astdb? |
| 20:23.05 | [TK]D-Fender | Asterisk Database. Just the Built-in DB! database |
| 20:23.11 | [TK]D-Fender | DB1* |
| 20:23.23 | Assid | hrmm.. but i want it to have a front end |
| 20:23.24 | [TK]D-Fender | I use if to handle my forwarding / follow-me |
| 20:23.29 | Assid | so these guys can change it |
| 20:23.35 | [TK]D-Fender | I use an IVR front end w/ prompts :) |
| 20:23.49 | Assid | yeah.. but how do i update the follow me number |
| 20:23.54 | iCEBrkr | You do have a front end.. *80 *81 |
| 20:23.55 | [TK]D-Fender | Through IVR. |
| 20:24.09 | RoyK | hm |
| 20:24.14 | [TK]D-Fender | I jsut made a whack of contexts to prompt to enable/disable, where to send the call, etc |
| 20:24.17 | iCEBrkr | *80, "Please enter your follow-me phone number." |
| 20:24.20 | RoyK | asterisk 1.0.x seems to do something funny |
| 20:24.36 | iCEBrkr | RoyK: Nuhh uhhh. |
| 20:24.51 | Assid | doesnt find that number |
| 20:24.52 | RoyK | top reports asterisk is using 99.9% cpu |
| 20:25.02 | iCEBrkr | Assid: Well, you'd have to program it in the dialplan |
| 20:25.06 | RoyK | sar reports some 25% per cpu with dual xeon with ht |
| 20:25.14 | RoyK | so wtf is really happening? |
| 20:25.27 | iCEBrkr | RoyK: is your top SMP aware? :P |
| 20:25.42 | Assid | can someone show me their dialplan for this? |
| 20:25.48 | RoyK | iCEBrkr: sure |
| 20:26.04 | RoyK | iCEBrkr: but that really doesn't change anything |
| 20:26.08 | [TK]D-Fender | Assid : You asked for it :D muahahaha |
| 20:26.10 | [TK]D-Fender | *cough* |
| 20:26.14 | RoyK | it seems asterisk is using exactly one logical cpu |
| 20:26.28 | mutilator | there any reason * lags out users? |
| 20:26.33 | mutilator | because// |
| 20:26.48 | iCEBrkr | Assid: All you're doing is setting a FollowMe flag for whatever extension. So anytime a call goes to that extension make it check the FollowMe flag. If it's set, DB(FollowMe/Number) to redirect the call |
| 20:26.50 | [TK]D-Fender | http://pastebin.ca/index.php |
| 20:26.59 | iCEBrkr | index.php? |
| 20:27.09 | mutilator | i have qualify on this user |
| 20:27.10 | [TK]D-Fender | http://pastebin.ca/34630 |
| 20:27.13 | [TK]D-Fender | better :) |
| 20:27.15 | mutilator | and a ping window open on their ata |
| 20:27.31 | mutilator | avg 32ping, 3000 pings, highest ping 130 |
| 20:27.37 | mutilator | but yet i still get |
| 20:27.37 | mutilator | Dec 22 15:11:20 NOTICE[13332]: chan_sip.c:8481 handle_response_peerpoke: Peer '9893332471' is now TOO LAGGED! (2133ms / 1000ms) |
| 20:27.58 | iCEBrkr | mutilator: I think I had a problem with my SPA doing that once. |
| 20:27.59 | RoyK | mutilator: increase the qualify= value |
| 20:28.22 | RoyK | mutilator: qualify doesn't have anything to do with ping. it takes the time the peer uses to answer an OPTION packet iirc |
| 20:28.24 | mutilator | i get like 40 users doing it at once |
| 20:28.30 | mutilator | then 10 sec later when it retried |
| 20:28.36 | Assid | okay lemme try that |
| 20:28.36 | RoyK | then perhaps asterisk is stupid |
| 20:28.39 | mutilator | they all have 30ms or so |
| 20:28.39 | RoyK | qualify=5000 |
| 20:28.44 | Assid | thanks [TK]D-Fender |
| 20:28.46 | RoyK | mutilator: read what i wrote above |
| 20:29.07 | mutilator | wondering if it might be cause by another problem tho? |
| 20:29.13 | mutilator | device is being retarded |
| 20:29.17 | mutilator | or asterish being retarded |
| 20:29.26 | iCEBrkr | mutilator: In my case the SPA was borked. |
| 20:29.42 | mutilator | these are all spa's i have on here |
| 20:29.59 | mutilator | for the most part all on a wifi WAN too |
| 20:30.08 | mutilator | so it might be lost packets not being retransmitted? |
| 20:30.14 | iCEBrkr | mutilator: Oh, THAT could be your issue |
| 20:30.47 | mutilator | ya |
| 20:30.51 | iCEBrkr | mutilator: If someone copies a file across that WiFi it could saturate it instantly. |
| 20:30.52 | mutilator | possibly |
| 20:31.08 | mutilator | it's not access point technology |
| 20:31.12 | mutilator | it's COR and WORP |
| 20:31.13 | Assid | gimme a sec.. just gotta vnc these users then will play with this dialplan |
| 20:31.37 | iCEBrkr | mutilator: So you still think that link can't get saturated? |
| 20:31.55 | mutilator | sure it can |
| 20:32.14 | mutilator | but it's not as easy as that |
| 20:32.20 | iCEBrkr | true |
| 20:33.04 | mutilator | i'll make my qualify longer |
| 20:33.08 | mutilator | 3seconds or something |
| 20:33.13 | mutilator | never seen any hit above that |
| 20:33.17 | mutilator | less they died |
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| 20:33.55 | mutilator | if i set quality=3000 in the general section of the sip.conf... it applies to all right? |
| 20:33.59 | mutilator | don't need to do individually |
| 20:35.05 | mutilator | ah well |
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| 20:36.49 | Assid | okay now.. back.. |
| 20:36.56 | Assid | i have NO CLUE. what exactly that does |
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| 20:38.51 | Assid | [TK]D-Fender: what exactly does that do? |
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| 20:44.36 | LostFrog | Tell me something good, people. |
| 20:44.37 | LostFrog | :) |
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| 20:44.54 | upsite | !seen xylome |
| 20:45.01 | upsite | damn :P |
| 20:45.27 | jluk | LostFrog: if you put enough detergent in a pond the ducks will sink. |
| 20:45.44 | jluk | LostFrog: there you go - that's something. |
| 20:46.24 | Money5ack | hey guys |
| 20:46.44 | [TK]D-Fender | LostFrog : If you mix equal parts of soap and gasoline you get napalm. |
| 20:47.13 | Money5ack | i see currently on an asterisk 1.0.6 BRIStuffed |
| 20:47.37 | jluk | [TK]D-Fender: I thought napalm was parafin & gasoline ? |
| 20:47.38 | Money5ack | now for about 2 hours there isn go any calls over this asterisk |
| 20:48.04 | Money5ack | but there are over 900 SIP-Channels open |
| 20:48.10 | Money5ack | is there any reason for ? |
| 20:48.18 | Money5ack | the asterisk isn' |
| 20:48.24 | Money5ack | isn't behind nat |
| 20:48.36 | [TK]D-Fender | jluk : Somewhat interchangeable :) |
| 20:48.43 | jluk | :) |
| 20:49.05 | jluk | wonder what he actually wanted to be told. |
| 20:50.57 | SkramX | [TK]D-Fender: haha |
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| 20:52.16 | file[desk] | FOOD |
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| 20:58.35 | alephcom | [TK]D-Fender: I better remember that. Yesterday I said something about a gun and this ladys like "You must be a terrorist" I'm like lol |
| 20:59.05 | alephcom | Terrorists should know how to make napalm. :-) |
| 20:59.33 | alephcom | That would be a good thing to experiment with at our family gathering. |
| 21:00.21 | ast-newbie | thanks to all of those who helped me i finally made ztdummy working |
| 21:00.47 | jluk | ast-newbie: so what was the final fix ? |
| 21:01.35 | ast-newbie | well i had old sources for zaptel |
| 21:03.39 | *** part/#asterisk mikeyb_work (n=michael@66-193-82-211.gen.twtelecom.net) |
| 21:04.51 | [TK]D-Fender | alephcom : i USED TO WORK FOR A FIREARMS IMPORTER / EXPORTER. pEOPLE LOVE OVERHEARING MY CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHICH EXCEEDING ACCESSABLE OLD HANDGUNS CAN CUT THROUGH CLASS 3 KEVLAR LIKE RICEPAPER :) |
| 21:05.07 | [TK]D-Fender | oops./ |
| 21:05.10 | [TK]D-Fender | stupid caps |
| 21:05.33 | [TK]D-Fender | Al-aquaba jhyad! ... I mean..... pass the mayo please? :) |
| 21:05.46 | tzanger | [TK]D-Fender: heh |
| 21:07.01 | Renacor | Anybody here use soundstation 4000 phones? |
| 21:07.31 | [TK]D-Fender | Renacor : is it just the SIP config you need to get running? |
| 21:08.18 | Renacor | [TK]D-Fender: It's very strange, I have it configured to grab a ip from the dhcp server by mac address which works fine, but then I keep getting "Could not contact boot server, using default config" |
| 21:08.28 | Renacor | Im using tftp for the bootserver |
| 21:12.16 | *** join/#asterisk areski (n=areski@32.Red-83-55-103.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 21:14.42 | [TK]D-Fender | Renacor : Did you specify the "option tftp-server-name" section in dhcpd.conf and set up the service? |
| 21:15.05 | [TK]D-Fender | And for Polycom I highly suggest FTP for provisioning |
| 21:15.39 | alephcom | TK]D-Fender: Lol. Up here in Canada it's pretty funny. They have "gun control" but it only applies to the honest people. I got rid of my guns a few years ago because I did not want to register them but the whole thing is a big, expensive joke |
| 21:16.28 | [TK]D-Fender | Should have kept them. Pre-reg guns become impossible to buy later. |
| 21:16.33 | [TK]D-Fender | And I'm Canadian :) |
| 21:17.03 | [TK]D-Fender | I was working for Canada Post when that bill was passed and got to DELIVER the notices door-door :( |
| 21:17.10 | alephcom | Cool! Yeah, I probably should have but.. |
| 21:17.46 | Renacor | [TK]D-Fender: Yeah like this http://pastebin.com/475653 |
| 21:17.57 | alephcom | Did you guys get shot at? We had a guy in Stettler, AB who roughed up one of the door-to-door gun control advocates but that's to be expected |
| 21:18.01 | alephcom | :-) |
| 21:18.12 | [TK]D-Fender | Renacor : you use a FQDN? |
| 21:18.34 | [TK]D-Fender | No, its just flyer distribution.... ad-mail |
| 21:18.42 | Renacor | for the phone? |
| 21:18.53 | Renacor | it was set to ip address |
| 21:18.57 | Renacor | im trying string now |
| 21:19.26 | Renacor | ugh same thing |
| 21:19.56 | [TK]D-Fender | and a tcpdump on the server doesn't show the attempt? |
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| 21:20.40 | Renacor | then it tries to load it's build in sip.ld but dies, saying "Bootrom has changed, error is 0x0" |
| 21:20.58 | [TK]D-Fender | EEK |
| 21:21.09 | Renacor | what port does tftp use? |
| 21:21.17 | [TK]D-Fender | Switch to a better BR / SIP revision, set it to load from FTP and make your life a lot easier |
| 21:21.23 | [TK]D-Fender | not sure really... |
| 21:21.30 | [TK]D-Fender | I only use TFTP for my Uniden's |
| 21:22.04 | [TK]D-Fender | Only thing they were good for was vandalism targeted phones.... |
| 21:22.20 | Renacor | heh |
| 21:22.57 | [TK]D-Fender | So switch to BR 2.6.1 & SIP 1.5.2 and life should be better |
| 21:23.16 | [TK]D-Fender | My IP 600's started with 1.4.x and upgraded on first boot. |
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| 21:28.55 | [TK]D-Fender | ok, I'm outta here, BBIAB |
| 21:34.24 | AgiNamu | tftp is port 69 udp |
| 21:34.30 | Jammy | hey guys, im having a prob with a TDM400P on debian... whenever i try modprobe wctdm or wcfxs its telling me modules are not there... any idea what i maybe doing wrong? |
| 21:34.30 | AgiNamu | oh... im lagged :) |
| 21:35.08 | jluk | Jammy: do you actually have to modules installed |
| 21:35.40 | Jammy | jluk: i'm assuming they are, zaptel and asterisk installed fine without any errors |
| 21:35.54 | mishehu | gah. I never remember how to convert wav49->wav with sox... |
| 21:36.55 | jluk | Jammy: ok, if you look in the lib/modules/`uname -r`/ somewhere you should see the modules |
| 21:37.01 | jluk | check that they are there. |
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| 21:39.10 | Seldon1975 | I can't get to the Wiki page, can someone please confirm the syntax for allowing users to transfer calls using the # key; is it: exten=>t,1,Dial(Zap/5|Ttr) |
| 21:39.43 | AgiNamu | using google cache :) |
| 21:39.58 | AgiNamu | t: Allow the called user to transfer the call by hitting # |
| 21:39.58 | AgiNamu | T: Allow the calling user to transfer the call by hitting # |
| 21:40.07 | AgiNamu | r generates a ringing tone |
| 21:40.19 | Seldon1975 | thanks |
| 21:40.32 | Seldon1975 | so that syntax with the | is correct? |
| 21:40.40 | AgiNamu | no |
| 21:40.41 | Seldon1975 | how do I add a timeout to that ? |
| 21:40.44 | AgiNamu | you need timeout |
| 21:40.48 | Seldon1975 | ok |
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| 21:40.50 | AgiNamu | its Dial(tech,timeout,options) |
| 21:41.00 | AgiNamu | Dial(type1/identifier1&type2/identifier2&type3/identifier3...,timeout,options,URL) |
| 21:41.26 | Seldon1975 | so: exten=>t,1,Dial(Zap/5|Ttr,25) ? |
| 21:41.33 | AgiNamu | no, timeout is first |
| 21:41.38 | Seldon1975 | ok |
| 21:41.39 | AgiNamu | dial(bla,25,Ttr) |
| 21:41.45 | Seldon1975 | right thanks! |
| 21:41.56 | AgiNamu | im assumging ZAP/5 is a FXS port |
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| 21:43.00 | Seldon1975 | yes |
| 21:43.02 | Seldon1975 | ta |
| 21:43.15 | SwK[Work] | exten => *,1,Dial(ZAP/${GO_TO_GOOGLE}/${FOR_ANSWERS}|${TIMEOUT}|${OPTIONS}) |
| 21:43.39 | Seldon1975 | SWK: did I mention I couldnt get to the wiki page? |
| 21:43.42 | Seldon1975 | yes, i think i did! |
| 21:43.48 | SwK[Work] | google cache y0 |
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| 21:44.01 | SwK[Work] | google has a good cache of the wiki |
| 21:44.08 | Seldon1975 | CANT EVEN GET THERE |
| 21:44.09 | dejan2 | hello ppl. |
| 21:44.11 | Seldon1975 | oops |
| 21:44.13 | Seldon1975 | sorry caps |
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| 21:44.36 | SwK[Work] | hah |
| 21:45.16 | SwK[Work] | hahaha |
| 21:45.30 | twisted[asteria] | server load on www.voip-info.org is 70.29 as of 3 minutes ago |
| 21:45.36 | AgiNamu | yea, I said google cache too :P |
| 21:45.48 | AgiNamu | twisted, you work for Asteria? |
| 21:46.05 | SwK[Work] | AgiNamu: we fired him but he refuses to remove that tag from his name |
| 21:46.06 | twisted[asteria] | ye |
| 21:46.11 | twisted[asteria] | hah |
| 21:46.16 | SwK[Work] | heh |
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| 21:46.36 | twisted[asteria] | anywho |
| 21:46.38 | twisted[asteria] | yes, I do :) |
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| 21:47.10 | SwK[Work] | hah |
| 21:47.12 | SwK[Work] | asshat |
| 21:47.14 | AgiNamu | Oh. We've been workign with a few people over there :) |
| 21:47.17 | AgiNamu | Tim, Ken |
| 21:47.18 | twisted[asteria] | :) |
| 21:47.23 | AgiNamu | and xin |
| 21:47.34 | SwK[Work] | AgiNamu: who are you? |
| 21:47.44 | SwK[Work] | Dash right |
| 21:47.46 | AgiNamu | Bingo |
| 21:47.49 | SwK[Work] | werd |
| 21:47.50 | twisted[asteria] | ah hah |
| 21:48.00 | brad_mssw | it seems as though DTMF codes are interpretted wrong on some cell phones ... is this normal ?? |
| 21:48.07 | AgiNamu | Although, I've been here long before dash ;) |
| 21:48.11 | brad_mssw | (if you call in to asterisk from a cell phone) |
| 21:48.30 | brad_mssw | happens on both Zap lines here, and over teliax |
| 21:48.35 | twisted[asteria] | brad_mssw, it's not asterisk... it's the cell provider |
| 21:48.56 | brad_mssw | would have thought cell providers would provide dtmf out of band |
| 21:48.58 | twisted[asteria] | sometimes we just don't get the tones |
| 21:49.35 | twisted[asteria] | on PRI it *SHOULD* be |
| 21:49.48 | twisted[asteria] | but that's assuming the cellular provider is sending them properly |
| 21:49.57 | twisted[asteria] | and the switch can interpret them, and so on and so forth |
| 21:50.00 | brad_mssw | yeah |
| 21:50.15 | twisted[asteria] | my cell phone, for instance, works fine, whereas the guys next to me doesn't |
| 21:50.43 | brad_mssw | it seems consistent that some cell phones don't work |
| 21:50.46 | twisted[asteria] | but if you look, we don't seem to be getting the dtmf properly from his calls, but we do mine |
| 21:50.55 | brad_mssw | but those same cell phones will work on other pbx systems :/ |
| 21:51.09 | Renacor | this damn soundstation 4000 never even attempts to talk to the tftp server |
| 21:51.16 | brad_mssw | dunno, not blaming asterisk by any means |
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| 21:51.52 | twisted[asteria] | i'm just speaking from experience... it could be something missing in the q931 stack for PRI in asterisk |
| 21:52.02 | twisted[asteria] | then again, it could be the provider not signalling it properly |
| 21:52.15 | twisted[asteria] | i just don't see them the same in the debug |
| 21:52.39 | brad_mssw | land lines always seem proper though |
| 21:52.44 | brad_mssw | which is good at least |
| 21:52.47 | twisted[asteria] | *nod* |
| 21:53.16 | Uther_P | yea, screw those preppy, self-important, cell phone-carrying bastards :D |
| 21:53.16 | twisted[asteria] | anywho.. anyone in here know of a good fax detection that can be used when calling OUT to a receiving machine? |
| 21:53.30 | twisted[asteria] | i can get cng just fine, but answer tones i can't ever get a lock on |
| 21:53.57 | Uther_P | efax works for me |
| 21:54.12 | twisted[asteria] | Uther_P, that's not the kind of solution i'm looking for here ;) |
| 21:54.18 | Uther_P | heh |
| 21:54.18 | SwK[Work] | twisted[asteria]: hey I wonder if that Kevin Rose show that went wide band today about asterisk is causing the wiki to get buttraped |
| 21:54.21 | twisted[asteria] | i want to know if i've called a fax machien or not |
| 21:54.33 | twisted[asteria] | SwK, dunno |
| 21:54.51 | twisted[asteria] | but my outbound calls need to be filtered before I get screaming in my ear |
| 21:55.17 | twisted[asteria] | so i tell the system to call this number. The system calls the number and determines if it is actually a fax number before trying to send a fax |
| 21:55.32 | brad_mssw | would think nvfaxdetect would be able to jump to the fax context if found, even if calling out, instead of incoming |
| 21:55.42 | twisted[asteria] | see,I thought so too |
| 21:55.49 | brad_mssw | never tried though |
| 21:56.04 | twisted[asteria] | but apparently it's only set up to listen for the outbound tones |
| 21:56.10 | twisted[asteria] | answer tones don't seem to trigger it |
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| 21:58.44 | brad_mssw | twisted[asteria]: hmm, zap lines can do it with faxdetect=outgoing ... though nvfaxdetect just used this same code, except applied it to sip/iax channels |
| 21:59.45 | twisted[asteria] | brad_mssw, no, faxdetect=outgoing listens on the outgoing audio for fax tones |
| 22:00.11 | twisted[asteria] | ie, i'm sending a fax, route it somewhere else |
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| 22:00.27 | brad_mssw | twisted[asteria]: ahh, oops |
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| 22:00.36 | twisted[asteria] | faxdetect=incoming listenson the incoming audio; ie, i'm receiving a fax, route it somewhere else |
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| 22:01.05 | twisted[asteria] | what i need is something like "i've called a fax machine, route it somewhere" |
| 22:01.14 | rculp | part #asterisk |
| 22:01.39 | Uther_P | um... /part? |
| 22:02.04 | rculp | aye |
| 22:02.06 | rculp | I typer gud |
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| 22:08.16 | drray | twisted - you aer being paged in asterisk-dev :) |
| 22:08.56 | Seldon1975 | All your base |
| 22:08.57 | Seldon1975 | base |
| 22:08.59 | Seldon1975 | All your base |
| 22:09.02 | Seldon1975 | are belkong to us |
| 22:09.04 | Seldon1975 | oops |
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| 22:10.47 | mishehu | has anybody had any problems with Monitor() ? It was formerly working but now just records silence. |
| 22:10.54 | mishehu | (in 1.2.1) |
| 22:13.59 | xheliox | http://heliosj.iddings.us/images/endisnear-cnn.jpg - omg, the end is near! |
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| 22:15.21 | Uther_P | oh shit, the cops are here! |
| 22:15.24 | TheCops | :0 |
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| 22:15.25 | TheCops | :) |
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| 22:16.12 | syzygybsd | mishehu: you upgraded from 1.0.9 or something right? |
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| 22:20.52 | Jammy | jluk: weird... checked and reinstalled zaptel and asterisk, and still no go... Is there any change at how the new asterisk loads modules? |
| 22:20.58 | _Sam-- | can someone point me in the right direction on where to look for limiting concurrent calls based on sip registration? ie so that a registered SIP client can only make one call at a time |
| 22:23.04 | jluk | Jammy: dunno - I'm just building 1.2 (or trying to). Last time I upgraded was back in Dec 2004 |
| 22:23.20 | brad_mssw | _Sam--: GROUP_COUNT() and GROUP() (formerly CheckGroup() and SetGroup()) |
| 22:23.39 | _Sam-- | ty |
| 22:23.55 | jluk | Jammy: do you still need to run 'depmod -ae' after installing new modules. |
| 22:24.36 | Jammy | well i ran them when i got the error that modules.dep was out of date... but still no go, I'll try the stable 1.2...was using SVN |
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| 22:25.47 | jluk | I'm finally getting somewhere. Bloody debian install didn't have a /lib/modules/kernel/build. So I had to build a damn kernel before I could build ztdummy |
| 22:26.17 | jluk | now I can find out what's changed in the last year :) |
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| 22:26.31 | Jammy | haha |
| 22:26.32 | Jammy | nice |
| 22:26.38 | Jammy | wish i could get that far |
| 22:27.12 | Jammy | jluk: what hardware are you using with * |
| 22:28.29 | jluk | This box is a dual PIII thingy - no zap hardware, will be used purely for sip/iax traffic |
| 22:29.13 | jluk | Jammy: ok, modules seem to install in /lib/modules/kernel/extra/ |
| 22:29.20 | Seldon1975 | I cant find this in the Wiki - is it possible to specify more than one email address for a single voicemail box? |
| 22:29.36 | jluk | Jammy: where kernel is the number of your running kernel |
| 22:30.12 | Dandan | Seldon1975: yes |
| 22:30.50 | Seldon1975 | Dandan, cool can you show an example? |
| 22:30.54 | jluk | Jammy: Got same problem as you now :) |
| 22:31.16 | _Sam-- | check voicemail.conf |
| 22:31.23 | _Sam-- | there is example w/ more than 1 email in there |
| 22:31.58 | jluk | Jammy: problem is that the modules are installed into /lib/modules/2.6.8/extra but my kernel is 2.6.8-2-686-smp so they should be in /lib/modules/2.6.8-2-686-smp/extra |
| 22:33.05 | jluk | fer f***s sake. WTF are the new modules doing in there. |
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| 22:33.15 | Seldon1975 | _Sam: theres example with two; but are 3 or 4 possible? |
| 22:34.01 | _Sam-- | i think you'll be about to figure it out. |
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| 22:34.36 | Seldon1975 | _Sam--: no, I cant. is the example you're poining to this: ;4200 => 9855,Mark Spencer,markster@linux-support.net,mypager@digium.com,attach=no|serveremail=myaddy@digium.com|tz=central|maxmsg=10 |
| 22:34.49 | _Sam-- | dont you see the delimiting? |
| 22:35.08 | _Sam-- | and did you actually TRY anything? |
| 22:35.28 | _Sam-- | sorry for being an ass...but i think its pretty simple |
| 22:35.30 | SkramX | Hey Sistahz |
| 22:35.35 | SkramX | haha |
| 22:35.40 | Jammy | jluk: ahhh will check that out |
| 22:36.10 | jluk | Jammy: I still can't insmod the f;in things though. |
| 22:36.18 | Seldon1975 | _Sam--: I don't thinhk theres any need to be hostile; sure I could make assumptions about the syntax but if someone here knows it Id rather ask them than spend an hour pissing about with it |
| 22:36.23 | JFPMartin | Twisted: are you listening? |
| 22:36.38 | Jammy | i dont even see that dir |
| 22:37.24 | jluk | Jammy: do you see your kernel listed in /lib/modules/ |
| 22:37.28 | Jammy | yup |
| 22:38.43 | jluk | Jammy: so is there a /lib/modules/kernel/extra ? |
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| 22:39.15 | _Sam-- | Seldon1975: E-mail to multiple addresses: Sometimes it's quite handy to have a message go to multiple mailboxes but not so convenient to have to create additional entries in extensions.conf and voicemail.conf. This works great for "phone coverage" for when someone out of the office for a vacation. You can use the /etc/aliases or /etc/mail/aliases file to handle this through your MTA. |
| 22:39.17 | saftsack | hi |
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| 22:39.26 | Jammy | jluk: theres no 'extra' |
| 22:39.35 | _Sam-- | taken from: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+config+voicemail.conf |
| 22:39.58 | jontow | anyone here familiar with H.323 (specifically H.245 negotiation..) .. need to know if Master-Slave determination has to happen before Terminal Capability Negotiation is exchanged.. |
| 22:40.08 | saftsack | is it possible to create a new voicemailmessage directly from the telephone? |
| 22:40.27 | Seldon1975 | _Sam--: thanks - so its not configured in the mailbox declaraion itself |
| 22:40.31 | jontow | saftsack; sure.. call into your voicemail.. 'option 5' under top-level option 3? |
| 22:40.44 | jontow | it'll ask you for a mailbox number to leave it in, then prompt you for a message as though you'd called them |
| 22:40.55 | saftsack | cool :) |
| 22:41.03 | saftsack | so every caller will hear that message then? |
| 22:41.16 | jontow | no |
| 22:41.20 | saftsack | hmm |
| 22:41.21 | jontow | that will leave someone else a message .. |
| 22:41.28 | jontow | you mean record your unavailable and/or busy greeting? |
| 22:41.29 | saftsack | oh but that is that what i want ;) |
| 22:41.34 | saftsack | YES :) |
| 22:41.55 | jontow | ok, also in your voicemail options.. i believe option 0(?) and it'll prompt you to change your PIN (password), or record unavailable or busy greetings |
| 22:42.15 | jluk | Jammy: odd. if you run 'locate wcxfo' do you see a mention of it somewhere within /lib/modules ? |
| 22:42.22 | eKo1 | what's the difference between 'sip/1234 is making progress passing it to ...' and 'sip/1234 is ringing' with calls in the cli? |
| 22:42.57 | JFPMartin | jontow: I think masterslave and capablity exchange happen async with each other. I looked through a number of traces and they happen in different orders depending on terminal. |
| 22:43.15 | saftsack | jontow, yes it was 0 |
| 22:43.17 | saftsack | ok thanks :) |
| 22:44.09 | jontow | damn |
| 22:44.37 | saftsack | damn? |
| 22:44.58 | jontow | JFPMartin: currently trying to debug this.. i have the ooh323c stack running and exchanging calls.. the remote end sends it's capabilities (i see it on the wire in tcpdump/ethereal perfectly) and master/slave determination happens perfectly (also see that) |
| 22:45.03 | Jammy | jluk: thats why its soo weird... i dont even see those anywhere |
| 22:45.08 | jontow | but i don't see where ooh323c from asterisk's side goes across |
| 22:45.19 | jontow | and the remote side dies violently with "no capabilities received" |
| 22:45.34 | jluk | Jammy: is your locate database upto date ? - try running 'updatedb' |
| 22:45.34 | jontow | the logs from ooh323c seem to state that its happened, though |
| 22:45.34 | saftsack | i have another important question. howto determine, that i have a "safe" dialplan, also that there arent immense costs because theres an error? |
| 22:45.58 | Jammy | jluk: did that as well ...lol |
| 22:46.03 | jontow | saftsack; monitor your server for a while.. flowchart your dialplan by hand so you know what paths can be taken, do a monthly audit until you're comfortable.....etc |
| 22:46.12 | jluk | Jammy: what distro you using ? |
| 22:46.42 | Jammy | debian ... sarge me things |
| 22:46.44 | saftsack | jontow, can i call the telephone provider and asking if theres an open connection? |
| 22:46.59 | jontow | i .. suspect so, but that definitely depends on how nice your provider is to you.. |
| 22:47.10 | jontow | best use 'show channels' and watch your CDR closely. |
| 22:47.19 | jluk | Jammy: ok, that's exactly what I've just built on :) |
| 22:47.26 | JFPMartin | jontow: sorry not using ooh323. I've been doing my work with ast_h323 so I can handle the RTP. |
| 22:47.32 | Jammy | :) great |
| 22:47.34 | saftsack | my biggest fear is, that if someone stops a call and hangs up and asterisk didnt get it and the call is never ended |
| 22:47.45 | jontow | JFPMartin: ast_h323 ? the one builtin to the asterisk SVN tree? |
| 22:47.58 | JFPMartin | jontow: yep |
| 22:48.18 | Jammy | jluk: this isnt the first time ive installed a* well maybe first time on debian, but this is weird that everything works fine, but the modules never show up |
| 22:48.25 | Jammy | think i should try 1.2 ? |
| 22:48.36 | jluk | Jammy: I installed the newest 2.6 kernel (with apt-get) then svn fetched the newest 1.2 asterisk & zaptel stuff |
| 22:49.03 | Jammy | im running 2.4 |
| 22:49.07 | trixter | in ael is there a way to include other ael files so you dont have to have one massive file? |
| 22:49.13 | saftsack | jontow, do you have an idea? |
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| 22:49.33 | jluk | Jammy: ahh, I've not installed with 2.4 for a long long time. |
| 22:49.42 | Jammy | ill try the 1.2's |
| 22:49.48 | Jammy | see if that makes a difference |
| 22:49.51 | jontow | saftsack: could always try autofallthrough, though i don't much like it.. |
| 22:50.14 | saftsack | what is autofallthrough? |
| 22:50.14 | jluk | Jammy: worth trying - it's not as if zap takes a long time to build. |
| 22:50.31 | eKo1 | i don't understand why all my calls through zap never show that they are ringing when indeed they are |
| 22:51.22 | jluk | Jammy: mine is working now - well at least the module has loaded. Now to see if I can remember how to build a dial plan - I haven't had to touch mine in 7 months or more. |
| 22:51.51 | Jammy | haha...good luck... ill see if i can make progress...then we can fiddle through these dialplans together...lol |
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| 22:52.17 | saftsack | jontow, :( ^^ |
| 22:52.23 | JunK-Y | trixter: #include? |
| 22:52.33 | jontow | saftsack: check the example (included) extensions.conf -- it explains it at the top |
| 22:53.06 | JFPMartin | jontow: why'd you decide to use ooh323? |
| 22:53.09 | jluk | Jammy: dial plans used to be pretty straight forward - I'm just wondering what might have changed. This box is only going to be an iax link people who work for me so it should be pretty easy |
| 22:54.08 | saftsack | jontow, where is an example? :( *gg* |
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| 22:54.31 | trixter | JunK-Y: does that work with ael? |
| 22:54.40 | Jammy | jluk: yeah it should be... i had a massive dialplan a year ago. then that machine crashed. and all my knowledge went up in smoke |
| 22:55.04 | JunK-Y | trixter: polly |
| 22:55.07 | jluk | Jammy: ahh, backups :D - my dial plan is simple. |
| 22:55.08 | JunK-Y | prolly |
| 22:55.17 | Renacor | Anybody know of any problems with the soundstation 4000 and getting configs and bootroms over tftp? |
| 22:55.35 | trixter | I am guessing no but I will try it |
| 22:55.58 | jontow | because it was written in C and i can understand the code ... and it would compile |
| 22:56.10 | jluk | Jammy: calls an AGI which looks up everything in enum and away it goes. To add a new extension all I add is the extension to my enum tree |
| 22:56.39 | JunK-Y | trixter: let me know how it goes. |
| 22:57.13 | JFPMartin | jontow: :-) I've been adding video support to the ast_h323 and the c/c++ can get to you. Does * get access to the rtp in ooh323? I was under the impression it didn't. |
| 22:58.12 | trixter | nope it doesnt work |
| 22:58.19 | Jammy | jluk: nice, i've haven't worked with asterisk constantly in a while, in 2003 i was capable of doing something like that. now i have to start from scratch |
| 22:58.31 | trixter | it appears that with ael you have to make one large file and cant create others to be included for easier management |
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| 22:59.43 | JunK-Y | u use includes keyword ? |
| 23:00.15 | jluk | Jammy: join the club - the AGI was written ages ago, if I have to alter it I have to start from scratch and work out wtf I did. |
| 23:00.32 | trixter | that is for other contexts |
| 23:00.34 | trixter | not files |
| 23:01.16 | JunK-Y | let me grab some food and i'll give a quick test. |
| 23:01.59 | saftsack | jontow, ok autofallthrough is an option to set, but i havent asterisk here. can you copy me the explaining entry to pastebin? :> |
| 23:02.01 | trixter | btw I have a couple tickets to etel for $200 if anyone wants to go cheaper than the stock price of $1800.. http://conferences.oreilly.com/etel |
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| 23:04.00 | jontow | saftsack; can't checkout a copy from CVS ? or look on the wiki? |
| 23:04.09 | saftsack | yes or so |
| 23:04.22 | saftsack | but i have to do make samples or do you know where they are exactly? |
| 23:04.23 | jontow | JFPMartin: honestly, i'm not fully sure at this point -- i'm rather new to H.323, having been thrown into it this week |
| 23:04.31 | jontow | asterisk/configs/extensions...... |
| 23:04.31 | jontow | :) |
| 23:04.48 | jontow | JFPMartin: have learned an awful lot about an awful large number of protocols.. its just another one, i think ;) |
| 23:04.50 | saftsack | thanks :) |
| 23:06.25 | JFPMartin | jontow: H.323 is a minefield. Asterisk's support for it is v.simple. We've been shipping H.323 videophones for a few years now and we're still fixing interop issues with wannabees. |
| 23:07.03 | jontow | heheh |
| 23:07.22 | drumkilla | JFPMartin: hey there |
| 23:07.32 | JFPMartin | Hi Drumkilla |
| 23:07.47 | drumkilla | you are the one that reported the videosupport bug, right? |
| 23:07.52 | JFPMartin | Yep |
| 23:07.53 | jontow | don't know if you're familiar with it -- but my project is to interface asterisk+somerandomH.323stack to our proprietary enterprise call center system.. CosmoCall Universe |
| 23:08.14 | drumkilla | JFPMartin: I saw later that you said you had code to implement videosupport per-peer? |
| 23:08.19 | jontow | i've tried woomera's stuff, ooh323c, and ast_h323 |
| 23:08.19 | drumkilla | is that without the global setting? |
| 23:08.23 | saftsack | jontow, autofallthrough RULES ;) |
| 23:08.27 | jontow | all with similar but not quite successful results |
| 23:08.32 | JFPMartin | Jontow: Don't know about CosmoCall but I've been playing with 323 for a while. |
| 23:08.36 | jontow | saftsack: in certain cases, i'll agree ;) also makes you lazy, heheh |
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| 23:09.00 | saftsack | jontow, yes but its better so than having a worse telephone bill |
| 23:09.03 | jontow | JFPMartin: they've been around for a while.. one of the big ones, really.. but their platform is windows based, and so i don't much like it.. :) |
| 23:09.31 | jontow | but, the problem is.. its VoIP only, and it needs some means to terminate from and originate to the PSTN.. |
| 23:09.36 | JFPMartin | Drumkilla: yes I have the code fixes but you rather shut the door on my discussion with Twisted :-( I was hoping to find him here to talk it through. |
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| 23:10.04 | drumkilla | JFPMartin: I appologize, that's why I was glad I caught you |
| 23:10.16 | drumkilla | I didn't want to end any discussion, I just wanted to seperate the issues ... |
| 23:10.26 | jontow | currently we've got a proprietary (flaky) Arelnet PSTN<-->VoIP gateway, not preferred... ;) another choice is a pair of cisco 3640's with PRI cards, they handle 3 PRIs each physically, and 11-15 calls simultaneously each last test we ran, we have 48 channels to terminate at a minimum.. :P they'll not do very well |
| 23:10.36 | drumkilla | fixing the videosupport is one thing, and then you had some other stuff as well |
| 23:10.54 | katakefalos | Hello all, does anyone know how to raise the incoming volume on remote sip extensions somthing like rxgain and txgain in zap? |
| 23:10.56 | drumkilla | do you think you could submit 2 patches, one for fixing videosupport, and one with your other changes? |
| 23:11.07 | drumkilla | I'd be happy to review the video support stuff |
| 23:11.13 | JFPMartin | Jontow: I played around with H.323 and gnugk interfaced to AAH. * can be a good solution. |
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| 23:11.18 | jontow | but our best choice is asterisk, really.. quad cards are beautiful things ;) and since i'm well versed with a local CLEC's PRIs .. i'm pretty confident if i can hook the two together, it'll be a winning match |
| 23:12.23 | JFPMartin | Drumkilla: thanks for the offer. I'm finding it tough to find people that'll get interested in video. And I appreciate your intension to separate the issues. |
| 23:12.52 | drumkilla | JFPMartin: we just have a ton of issues on there, so i'm trying to help get things the way that will get them processed the most quickly |
| 23:13.05 | drumkilla | JFPMartin: I would love to do more work on video, I just have no access to resources to test anything |
| 23:13.14 | JFPMartin | Drumkilla: I was finding it difficult to keep up with the SIP changes and the thought of doing another diff to only sort out the videosupport issues 5 mins before leaving for hols was too much :) |
| 23:13.54 | drumkilla | JFPMartin: ok, so would you like to revisit it after the holidays? |
| 23:14.34 | JFPMartin | Drumkilla: I think that was twisted's problem. He went through all the tests for peer caps but without trying to make a video call you couldn't see that the rtp wasn't up. |
| 23:14.46 | drumkilla | JFPMartin: exactly |
| 23:15.00 | drumkilla | and looking at the code, there wasn't an easy fix to make it work as expected |
| 23:15.08 | drumkilla | so I just reverted it for now ... |
| 23:16.05 | JFPMartin | Drumkilla: I guess I'll have to get back into it in the NewYear. There's a simple fix to always create the rtp for video but I'm worried about voice systems that are already creaking and me adding extra resource problems with the always approach. |
| 23:16.29 | drumkilla | yeah, i'd rather not have to do that ... |
| 23:17.09 | drumkilla | like you said, the copy could have been moved up, but that requires it being set globally |
| 23:17.17 | drumkilla | and still doesn't even look at the peer settings |
| 23:17.26 | drumkilla | that function doesn't look at peer settings at all |
| 23:17.27 | JFPMartin | Drumkilla: The right solution is to only create the vrtp when we really know the cap of the peer/user. Though this is a big enough change that I want to test it for a few days. |
| 23:17.37 | drumkilla | JFPMartin: agreed |
| 23:18.05 | drumkilla | JFPMartin: I'll reopen the original bug for this so we can continue discussion there |
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| 23:18.18 | JFPMartin | Drumkilla: thanks. |
| 23:20.21 | drumkilla | JFPMartin: 5427 is now re-opened |
| 23:20.51 | JFPMartin | Drumkilla: I see the bug open again - thanks. I'll get to thinking about it over Turkey and let Mantis know what the bird says :-) |
| 23:21.12 | drumkilla | JFPMartin: haha, ok. I appreciate your help |
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| 23:24.38 | Strom_C | this is the last time I let a client specify that they want AMP on their goddamned asterisk box |
| 23:24.45 | Strom_C | the fucker won't install. |
| 23:26.29 | Strom_C | have any of you ever actually gotten it to successfully install? |
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| 23:33.10 | jontow | g'night all :) |
| 23:37.17 | xheliox | Sure is quiet around here. |
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| 23:38.57 | easel | is there an asterisk command to 'barge into' a zap channel, regardless of if anyone else is connected to it? |
| 23:42.15 | ManxPower | easel, no. |
| 23:42.36 | ManxPower | there is a command to LISTEN to a zap channel. |
| 23:42.42 | easel | yeah, i just found zapbarge |
| 23:42.45 | easel | bummer |
| 23:43.00 | easel | so theres no way to duplicate having two extensions on the same analog line then... |
| 23:44.04 | ManxPower | easel, Well, you can physically connect two analog phones to an analog zap port. |
| 23:44.36 | easel | hmm yeah i'm trying to do it the other way though... i want to use a zap port as one of two analog phones connected to a line |
| 23:44.59 | easel | i've got the ringing in part working ok... but i just can't figure out how to 'pick up' the line if it isn't ringing |
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| 23:47.21 | gcdtech | REGISTER |
| 23:48.01 | guest_ | must go today! 2 alienware laptops price $500 for one, 750 for two. message me on aim at mikcomputing, msn at heymikeeh@hotmail.com or yahoo at mperkelay if interested and wanting to buy only!! |
| 23:48.10 | file[laptop] | eh? |
| 23:48.16 | rob0 | is that a spam? |
| 23:48.46 | rob0 | sure looks like it |
| 23:49.08 | jluk | did someone remove the requirement to register ? |
| 23:51.26 | SkramX | :) |
| 23:52.06 | file[laptop] | he he he... |
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| 23:55.28 | tasat | anyone here with experience configuring asterlink? |
| 23:56.42 | rob0 | haha I bet there is |
| 23:57.04 | rob0 | maybe even someone who WORKS for asterlink |
| 23:57.29 | tasat | then I've come to the right place... |
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| 23:58.23 | tasat | Trying to get incoming calls working... I call my number and just hear a three tone sequence... |
| 23:58.26 | loud | actualy no, try #asterlink maybe. |
| 23:58.27 | rob0 | but anyway, the Wiki has anything you need, in general |
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