irclog2html for #asterisk on 20051112

`00:01.54`	`pooh_`	`Brixius: go help somebody ;_0`
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`00:04.40`	`Brixius`	`pooh_: I have in the past, stopped comming here because all it got to the point that it was allway's "how do I get my first phone to work"`
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`00:04.59`	`tessier`	`Brixius: Too many newbies and too few experts has long been a problem here.`
`00:05.06`	`tessier`	`That's what happens when a project grows so fast.`
`00:05.13`	`tessier`	`299 people in here right now...`
`00:05.14`	`pooh_`	`Brixius: point taken`
`00:05.23`	`harryvv`	`or thay dont want to pay somone to help them configure them.`
`00:05.30`	`Brixius`	`that too`
`00:05.43`	`tessier`	`I don't blame them.`
`00:05.59`	`harryvv`	`people have to live and pay bills and if somone else is willing to pay`
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`00:06.06`	`tessier`	`However, I have on at least two occasions offered to pay someone in here for help and there were no takers.`
`00:06.10`	`harryvv`	`then thay go to that cutomer.`
`00:07.21`	`harryvv`	`make it obvios`
`00:07.23`	`harryvv`	`like`
`00:07.37`	`asterisk_consult`	`:)`
`00:07.40`	`justinu`	`heh`
`00:07.56`	`eKo1`	`I have an * box with a E1 card and a T1 card. I have a PRI comming in through the E1 and I want to route some traffic comming through the E1 to the T1. Is this possible?`
`00:08.18`	`justinu`	`should be`
`00:08.20`	`Brixius`	`eko1: don't see why not`
`00:08.21`	`asterisk_consult`	`then automessage your phone number if thay msg you`
`00:08.27`	`justinu`	`lol`
`00:08.40`	`eKo1`	`all i need to do is configure the t1 channels to have networkside pri signalling right?`
`00:08.42`	`ManxPower`	`eKo1, route calls or route channels?`
`00:08.48`	`eKo1`	`route calls`
`00:09.08`	`asterisk_consult`	`the real dollars are when you adversise in the phone book and door to door`
`00:09.10`	`eKo1`	`i guess`
`00:09.33`	`ManxPower`	`eKo1, Ah, then there's nothing special.`
`00:09.44`	`eKo1`	`i have a modem server connected to the t1`
`00:09.45`	`Lostfrog`	`excuse me ma'am, May I interest you in a open-source PBX?`
`00:09.56`	`ManxPower`	`If, for example, you had data channels shareing the same T-1/E-1 as your PRI, then you would use DACS`
`00:09.57`	`harryvv`	`no`
`00:09.58`	`Starmaker`	`PB-waddayasay?`
`00:09.58`	`Starmaker`	`:p`
`00:10.13`	`Starmaker`	`Open-S'mores?`
`00:10.16`	`harryvv`	`lost thats now how you market your bussiness`
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`00:10.23`	`harryvv`	`not how you do it`
`00:10.38`	`Lostfrog`	`I was being facetious.`
`00:10.39`	`harryvv`	`thay care less about tech talk`
`00:10.42`	`deezed`	`anyone having issues with voicepulse?`
`00:11.15`	`Starmaker`	`the selling point is "Would you like to save money?"`
`00:11.36`	`ManxPower`	`If the glorified secretary my largest customer calls a "pbx admin" asks why she was not included in a recent e-mail, I'll just respond with "I just assume all the tech talk would be over your head."`
`00:11.41`	`harryvv`	`say you have a phone system that will cost less then the leading compeditor cost less on long distance calls and have a higher roi or return on investment.`
`00:12.06`	`harryvv`	`yes`
`00:12.17`	`harryvv`	`would you like to save money on your next phone installation!`
`00:12.40`	`harryvv`	`if thay are in the market thay might grab you by the arm and pull you in ;)`
`00:15.36`	`DJ-Pyro`	`word of mouth is also fun`
`00:15.52`	`harryvv`	`somone in here was selling asterisk systems telling the customers how to configure there systems ect. That to me is giving bussiness away. Thay did not charge a per phone monthly charge ect.`
`00:15.55`	`harryvv`	`sure`
`00:16.02`	`Lostfrog`	`ok.. w is a nice character to include in a * DTMF stream.`
`00:16.03`	`Lostfrog`	`:)`
`00:16.59`	`Lostfrog`	`Thank god.. I was tearing my hair out.`
`00:17.35`	`harryvv`	`:)`
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`00:17.36`	`Lostfrog`	`Dial(sip/101@provider,60,D(w${EXTEN}))`
`00:17.37`	`Lostfrog`	`worked`
`00:17.55`	`harryvv`	`that will cost you 120 dollars :)`
`00:18.14`	`Lostfrog`	`I didn't know browsing the source code myself costs.. :)`
`00:18.25`	`harryvv`	`im joking`
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`00:18.31`	`Lostfrog`	`Although, now I see it in the wiki. :(`
`00:18.58`	`Lostfrog`	`I would have happily paid $100 for the solution.`
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`00:20.48`	`CoffeeIV_`	`Can I do a DBPut from the *CLI> ?`
`00:22.11`	`Lostfrog`	`Sucks that I have to run CVS HEAD.`
`00:22.52`	`Lostfrog`	`help database put?`
`00:24.24`	`CoffeeIV_`	`database put was what I was looking for -- thanks`
`00:25.01`	`Lostfrog`	`I hope I add more to this channel then I take away. Sometimes it seems like I'm a leech.`
`00:27.19`	`DJ-Pyro`	`I wonder how well things run on the Sun Netra CT series`
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`00:30.03`	`Lostfrog`	`Are the stripLSD and substring apps going away?`
`00:32.21`	`ManxPower`	`Lostfrog, stripLSD has`
`00:32.35`	`Lostfrog`	`I wonder why it was still in RC1.`
`00:32.47`	`ManxPower`	`Lostfrog, someone forgot about them`
`00:33.11`	`Lostfrog`	`ok`
`00:35.54`	`harryvv`	`where is bkw`
`00:35.56`	`harryvv`	`:)`
`00:36.05`	`harryvv`	`anyone here use asterlink`
`00:36.07`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`bkw?... I ate him`
`00:36.13`	`harryvv`	`hehe`
`00:36.17`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`brrrrp`
`00:36.24`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`try #asterlink`
`00:36.32`	`harryvv`	`been there for the last 30`
`00:36.53`	`harryvv`	`trying to get my account with him working.`
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`00:46.28`	`fugitivo`	`is any info for voicemail in the asterisk database?`
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`00:46.49`	`harryvv`	`nick collision`
`00:46.50`	`harryvv`	`:)`
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`00:48.56`	`luite`	`can asterisk 1.0.9 handle multiple sip registrations from a single ip? I used 1.2rc1 and noticed no problems, but with 1.0.9 one port of a 2-fxs sipura device never seems to be able to register`
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`00:53.19`	`docelm0`	`whadup?`
`00:54.09`	`hypa7ia`	`hey docelm0`
`00:54.19`	`docelm0`	`sup man..`
`00:54.27`	`hypa7ia`	`namuch`
`00:54.27`	`fugitivo`	`is any way to launch a script if a voicemail is recorded?`
`00:54.40`	`docelm0`	`Im finally having some fun.. Im setting up my domestic carrier! I will be able to terminate minutes!`
`00:54.48`	`docelm0`	`AND I WILL HAVE DID's w/ E911!`
`00:54.57`	`hypa7ia`	`woooo`
`00:54.58`	`hypa7ia`	`nice`
`00:55.20`	`docelm0`	`Im trying to massage the rate deck now..`
`00:55.21`	`fugitivo`	`i need to launch a script if a voicemail is recorded (only if it's recorded, no hungup in the middle)`
`00:55.25`	`harryvv`	`btw, is there a client that would pop up apon windows startup that will say there is vm on your system?`
`00:56.39`	`Qwell`	`harryvv: would be simple to write with the manager interface`
`00:56.44`	`astcryz`	`7window 2`
`00:57.03`	`fugitivo`	`no way to do what i want? :)`
`00:57.07`	`harryvv`	`the manager interface?`
`00:58.46`	`Dr-Linux`	`i'm using sip users and softphone/hardphone, i wanna use TDM400P card, can i use same sip users? or i'd move to iax.conf ?`
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`01:00.29`	`marcus2`	`heheh i just unlocked a whole stack of PAP2s`
`01:01.25`	`Dr-Linux`	`marc324: can you answer me ?`
`01:01.26`	`Dr-Linux`	`i'm using sip users and softphone/hardphone, i wanna use TDM400P card, can i use same sip users? or i'd move to iax.conf ?`
`01:01.54`	`Qwell`	`Dr-Linux: ask once, then wait...`
`01:03.35`	`marcus2`	`i dont understand your question at all`
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`01:19.48`	`Druken`	`marcus2: unlocking pap2's eh?`
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`01:23.27`	`Kero`	`whee, Answer+Echo works over the fwdnet account.`
`01:23.42`	`DJ-Pyro`	`anyone remember the site for the open source telephony hardware project?`
`01:23.51`	`Qwell`	`DJ-Pyro: zapata?`
`01:23.53`	`Kero`	`but I still don't know how to answer on the console. I see Dial(Console/dsp) in the config files, but tit does not appear to work.`
`01:25.28`	`DJ-Pyro`	`that's it, thanks Qwell`
`01:28.02`	`marcus2`	`yeah, i've got a whole pile unlocked PAP2s now`
`01:28.17`	`marcus2`	`i'm going to send them out to all of our telecommuters`
`01:28.27`	`harryvv`	`for your company?`
`01:28.37`	`marcus2`	`yeah`
`01:28.41`	`harryvv`	`good idea`
`01:28.51`	`harryvv`	`as long as those hotels can pass sip/rtp`
`01:28.52`	`Vco`	`as opposed to someone elses company`
`01:28.56`	`marcus2`	`we just got a PRI hooked up to our asterisk server`
`01:29.03`	`harryvv`	`as long as those hotels firewall can pass sip/rtp`
`01:29.04`	`marcus2`	`oh, no, these are just for people's houses`
`01:29.10`	`harryvv`	`okay`
`01:29.19`	`marcus2`	`they'll have to use them behind vpn tunnels anyway`
`01:29.34`	`marcus2`	`so we'll give them wrt54gs with openwrt on them`
`01:29.45`	`harryvv`	`i see`
`01:29.54`	`Dr-Linux`	`Qwell: i'm still waiting`
`01:30.21`	`harryvv`	`to bad there wasnt a firmware with 2.2 pci slot.`
`01:30.22`	`harryvv`	`:)`
`01:30.49`	`harryvv`	`our electric bill goes hirer with the asterisk box running all the time.`
`01:31.10`	`Vco`	`what the hell are you running it on?`
`01:31.14`	`Vco`	`i mean..`
`01:31.16`	`Vco`	`seriously...`
`01:31.47`	`harryvv`	`just a pc`
`01:31.52`	`harryvv`	`old desktop`
`01:33.20`	`Lostfrog`	`It would be nice if linksys hadn't switch from Linux on the wrt54gs`
`01:33.26`	`Lostfrog`	`It would be nice if linksys hadn't switch from Linux on the wrt54g's`
`01:37.33`	`marcus2`	`yeah, but who cares really`
`01:37.35`	`DJ-Pyro`	`we finally got mcclead to switch us to pri`
`01:37.44`	`marcus2`	`theres plenty of older units on the market still`
`01:37.46`	`DJ-Pyro`	`originally they said 6-8 weeks to pull out a whole new circuit`
`01:37.52`	`Lostfrog`	`I do.. WRT54GS is expensive.`
`01:37.55`	`DJ-Pyro`	`contract was signed tuesday afternoon, did the cut over this morning`
`01:37.58`	`DJ-Pyro`	`stupid sales teams`
`01:38.00`	`marcus2`	`$75 is expensive?`
`01:38.19`	`Lostfrog`	`If you have to buy a bunch of them, yes.`
`01:38.33`	`marcus2`	`they are a lot cheaper than a lot of the alternatives`
`01:39.03`	`marcus2`	`hrm. do i want my extension to be 2525 or 2555`
`01:39.11`	`harryvv`	`think what it takes to make one then you would see its not expensive`
`01:39.25`	`Lostfrog`	`The WRT54G was cheap comparatively.`
`01:39.38`	`marcus2`	`the GS is only about $15 more than the G`
`01:40.00`	`Lostfrog`	`I don't need speedboost, so that $15 is a waste for me.`
`01:40.11`	`marcus2`	`its not a waste if you run some other firmware on it`
`01:40.23`	`marcus2`	`because you get 2x the flash and 2x the ram (well, not on the newest versions, but..)`
`01:42.10`	`Lostfrog`	`Everything I need fits in 4/8.`
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`01:44.16`	`marcus2`	`asterisk doesnt =D`
`01:45.11`	`Lostfrog`	`I'll grant you that.. But I don't need to run asterisk on it.`
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`01:49.18`	`luite`	`how can I find out why * (HEAD) returns a 404 error when trying to setup a sip call? I have console logging debug and verbose in logger.conf, and set debug 4 in the console itself. but I still cannot find the reason. for some reason I can make calls with the xlite softphone, but not with my snom 190 phones`
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`01:58.02`	`marcus2`	`woot`
`01:58.05`	`marcus2`	`4 pap2s up and running`
`01:58.19`	`marcus2`	`my boss will be so happy`
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`02:06.30`	`docelm0`	`Anyone know what causes make install to do nothing but the same thing over and over and over? How do I stop it?`
`02:07.30`	`docelm0`	`it never installs`
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`02:12.57`	`hypa7ia`	`docelm0: is that from cvs head?`
`02:13.13`	`docelm0`	`yes..`
`02:13.20`	`docelm0`	`I am trying to build 8/31/05`
`02:13.33`	`docelm0`	`cause todays version AGI GET_VARIABLE function doesnt work`
`02:13.41`	`hypa7ia`	`ah, i was gonna say, if it's from the latest head it could just be broken`
`02:13.41`	`docelm0`	`I need to be able to pull variables for scripts`
`02:13.47`	`hypa7ia`	`but that's just weird`
`02:13.58`	`docelm0`	`How do I fix it?`
`02:14.04`	`docelm0`	`I need to get this installed`
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`02:17.20`	`luite`	`docelm0: do you have any logging output of the repeated loop?`
`02:17.48`	`docelm0`	`build_tools/make_version_h > include/asterisk/version.h.tmp`
`02:17.48`	`docelm0`	`if cmp -s include/asterisk/version.h.tmp include/asterisk/version.h ; then echo; else \`
`02:17.48`	`docelm0`	`mv include/asterisk/version.h.tmp include/asterisk/version.h ; \`
`02:17.48`	`docelm0`	`fi`
`02:17.48`	`docelm0`	`rm -f include/asterisk/version.h.tmp`
`02:17.49`	`docelm0`	`build_tools/mkdep -pipe -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations -g -Iinclude -I../include -D_REENTRANT -D_GNU_SOURCE -O6 -march=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer acl.c aescrypt.c aeskey.c aestab.c alaw.c app.c asterisk.c ast_expr2.c ast_expr2f.c astmm.c autoservice.c callerid.c cd`
`02:17.53`	`docelm0`	`thats basically it`
`02:18.03`	`docelm0`	`same damn thing OVER AND OVER AND OVER!!!!`
`02:18.13`	`docelm0`	`Needless to say this happens when I need to get back online`
`02:19.49`	`Druken`	`is that from the cvs?`
`02:20.56`	`Flauto`	`i still have probelms with x100p`
`02:21.02`	`Flauto`	`can anyone help`
`02:21.37`	`Druken`	`what kinda problems?`
`02:21.41`	`docelm0`	`Drunk yes from End of August`
`02:21.51`	`docelm0`	`AGI is broken in current HEAD`
`02:22.29`	`Druken`	`i'd perhaps try a diffrent version? seems like that one is broken :)`
`02:22.48`	`docelm0`	`Well it compiled so I manually moved everything`
`02:22.51`	`luite`	`or try rc1 or beta2?`
`02:23.01`	`luite`	`ah`
`02:23.06`	`Druken`	`pfft, beta`
`02:23.43`	`Flauto`	`Drunken, i installed the card, now i am trying modprobe zaptel and wcfxo`
`02:24.13`	`Druken`	`Flauto: and?`
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`02:24.47`	`dos000`	`howdy`
`02:24.54`	`dos000`	`may day ...`
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`02:30.21`	`FuriousGeorge`	`i know ${EXTEN:1} strips the first digit, isnt there something that strips the last? i thought it was ${EXTEN:-1} but thats not working`
`02:31.05`	`Druken`	`${EXTEN:0:1}`
`02:31.28`	`FuriousGeorge`	`thanks Druken`
`02:31.56`	`Qwell`	`doesn't :0:1 give you only the first char?`
`02:32.20`	`Druken`	`don't think so...`
`02:32.30`	`Druken`	`may have to check on that....`
`02:32.40`	`Qwell`	`[:offset[:length]]`
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`02:33.29`	`Qwell`	`FuriousGeorge: Do you know the exact length of the var?`
`02:33.32`	`Qwell`	`will it vary?`
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`02:33.49`	`docelm0`	`ARGH!`
`02:34.09`	`docelm0`	`of all things to break.. why AGI?`
`02:34.11`	`docelm0`	`sigh`
`02:34.14`	`Druken`	`variable lengths suck ass... just like the god damn 7 digit CID from my analog channels`
`02:35.25`	`FuriousGeorge`	`Qwell: in this case i know the exact one`
`02:35.27`	`FuriousGeorge`	`sorry`
`02:35.38`	`Qwell`	`FuriousGeorge: for 7 digits, ${EXTEN:0:6}`
`02:36.03`	`FuriousGeorge`	`Qwell: im sure i read there was some way to simply strip from the other side`
`02:36.20`	`FuriousGeorge`	`am i wrong?`
`02:36.23`	`Qwell`	`think so`
`02:36.39`	`Qwell`	`:-1 will stip all but the last char`
`02:36.51`	`Qwell`	`strip*`
`02:36.57`	`denon`	`FuriousGeorge: I was running into this yesterday .. I couldnt find it, so I just wrote a quick AGI`
`02:37.36`	`Qwell`	`here`
`02:38.12`	`Qwell`	`${EXTEN:0:$[${LEN(${EXTEN}) - 1]}`
`02:38.13`	`Qwell`	`heh`
`02:38.20`	`FuriousGeorge`	`denon: i gotta learn some scripting language first`
`02:38.30`	`Qwell`	`that'll strip off the last 1 char from the var EXTEN`
`02:38.31`	`denon`	`well, ok, and I didnt want something that looked like that ^^^`
`02:38.53`	`Druken`	`may not look pretty, but it works`
`02:39.09`	`denon`	`probably .. wonder what would happen if you pass it a null`
`02:39.10`	`Druken`	`my dialplan is a nightmare... but it works :)`
`02:39.20`	`Druken`	`and i'm generally the only one who looks at it...`
`02:39.25`	`Qwell`	`denon: if EXTEN is null...you've got big problems. :P`
`02:39.38`	`denon`	`Qwell: well, true .. I was doing stuff with callerid`
`02:39.40`	`Qwell`	`but...nothing would happen`
`02:39.42`	`Druken`	`would be t`
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`02:39.53`	`Qwell`	`"If a negative length value is entered, it is ignored and Asterisk will match`
`02:39.53`	`Qwell`	`to the end of the string."`
`02:40.06`	`denon`	`oic`
`02:40.11`	`Qwell`	`So, if EXTEN is null in the above example, it would just end up as ${EXTEN:0:0}`
`02:40.17`	`denon`	`I'm still used to the days when * had no error checking, and anything would crash it :)`
`02:40.22`	`Druken`	`denon: CID pissed me off a week ago`
`02:40.23`	`denon`	`even a typo in an exten =>`
`02:40.28`	`Qwell`	`erm, not even :0:0, just :0`
`02:40.45`	`denon`	`Druken: it continues to frustrate me`
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`02:41.33`	`Druken`	`denon: it only frusterated me for about... 3 hours...`
`02:41.42`	`Druken`	`i was able to fix my stupid broken logic by then`
`02:42.06`	`Qwell`	`I missed a }`
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`02:42.15`	`Qwell`	`${EXTEN:0:$[${LEN(${EXTEN})} - 1]}`
`02:42.19`	`Qwell`	`better`
`02:42.39`	`Katty`	`hi.`
`02:42.43`	`FuriousGeorge`	`qwell, wouldnt this strip everything from exten - 1 leaving me with only the last character? ${EXTEN:0:$[${LEN(${EXTEN}) - 1]}`
`02:42.52`	`Katty`	`mishehu: mew?`
`02:42.59`	`Qwell`	`FuriousGeorge: note the first :0`
`02:43.12`	`Qwell`	`start at position 0, and get x digits`
`02:43.29`	`Qwell`	`on 7 digits, that ends up doing 6`
`02:43.45`	`FuriousGeorge`	`offset starts from the right?`
`02:43.56`	`FuriousGeorge`	`offset=start from`
`02:43.56`	`Qwell`	`no`
`02:44.01`	`Qwell`	`ok`
`02:44.02`	`Druken`	`left`
`02:44.03`	`Qwell`	`12345`
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`02:44.13`	`FuriousGeorge`	`so far so good`
`02:44.15`	`Qwell`	`offset 0 starts at "1", offset 2 starts at "1"`
`02:44.20`	`Qwell`	`erm`
`02:44.27`	`FuriousGeorge`	`:)`
`02:44.28`	`Qwell`	`offset 1 starts at "2"`
`02:44.34`	`Qwell`	`brb...that'll work though...try it`
`02:44.38`	`Druken`	`Qwell: you need sleep`
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`02:44.47`	`Qwell`	`Druken: I need to be Druken ;]`
`02:45.04`	`Druken`	`nah... one of me is enough`
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`02:51.02`	`FuriousGeorge`	`Qwell: err, that didnt work`
`02:51.18`	`FuriousGeorge`	`but im still not understanding exten:X:y`
`02:51.48`	`FuriousGeorge`	`oh now i get it`
`02:51.53`	`FuriousGeorge`	`hold on lemme think`
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`02:53.07`	`warthog`	`anyone know how to get rhel3 to add a mixed case username via command line, works with gui but now cmdline, want to add the polycom default user name to work for ftp in a script`
`02:53.13`	`sbingner`	`I just saw the TDM2400P, that's awesome`
`02:53.28`	`sbingner`	`warthog: um, adduser?`
`02:53.40`	`warthog`	`mixed case does not work on cmdline`
`02:53.45`	`sbingner`	`warthog: then just use vi`
`02:53.52`	`sbingner`	`or something like that`
`02:54.07`	`sbingner`	`you can just create the proper entries in /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow`
`02:54.29`	`warthog`	`what about shadow files, I guess just add it and edit it to mixed case with perl?`
`02:54.50`	`sbingner`	`or sed`
`02:55.09`	`sbingner`	`you sure? I tries useradd TeSt on FC3 and it worked`
`02:55.12`	`sbingner`	`tried`
`02:55.36`	`warthog`	`I am on rhel3, does not work for sure, worked on rh8 just fine.`
`02:55.53`	`sbingner`	`that's gay... just hack your adduser to not make everything lowercase ;)`
`02:55.53`	`file[laptop]`	`meep?`
`02:55.57`	`sbingner`	`meep!`
`02:56.10`	`FuriousGeorge`	`so 123456 ${EXTEN:1:2} 23?`
`02:56.12`	`warthog`	`roadrunner`
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`02:56.22`	`FuriousGeorge`	`Qwell: ?`
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`02:56.48`	`sbingner`	`if it does what I assume, it would be 234`
`02:57.16`	`sbingner`	`I didn't know that was supported tho`
`02:57.29`	`Lostfrog`	`yes.. 23`
`02:57.55`	`sbingner`	`ooh, it takes off one and uses the next 2?`
`02:58.05`	`Lostfrog`	`Start at 1, take 2`
`02:58.05`	`FuriousGeorge`	`Qwell:`
`02:58.09`	`Lostfrog`	`Number from 0.`
`02:58.44`	`FuriousGeorge`	`im trying to dial 103# and get 103's voicemail, there is no way to do this?`
`02:58.52`	`FuriousGeorge`	`Lostfrog:`
`02:59.07`	`FuriousGeorge`	`basically i wanna strip the last digit`
`02:59.25`	`sbingner`	`FuriousGeorge exten => _NNN#,1,Goto(${EXTEN:0:3}) perhaps`
`02:59.45`	`Lostfrog`	`Let me get this right, FuriousGeorge, you want me to go to the wiki and find your answer?`
`02:59.45`	`FuriousGeorge`	`sbingner: then EXTEN=null`
`02:59.55`	`FuriousGeorge`	`Lostfrog: its not that easy man`
`03:00.18`	`FuriousGeorge`	`i mean then exten = #`
`03:00.27`	`Lostfrog`	`Want to bet? I just read it.`
`03:00.38`	`FuriousGeorge`	`-1 i was told doesnt do it`
`03:00.43`	`FuriousGeorge`	`and i saw it didnt`
`03:00.48`	`FuriousGeorge`	`im usiong 1.0.9`
`03:00.59`	`sbingner`	`why would exten = null? start at 0 and use 3 characters... going off what lostfrog said ;) ... but I'm probably wrong since I havent looked at it`
`03:01.11`	`Lostfrog`	`0:3 should do it.`
`03:01.22`	`FuriousGeorge`	`oh yeah`
`03:01.23`	`Lostfrog`	`${123456789:0:3} - returns the string 123`
`03:01.24`	`FuriousGeorge`	`i get it`
`03:01.55`	`FuriousGeorge`	`Lostfrog: i stnad corrected it was that easy`
`03:02.02`	`Lostfrog`	`-1 returns '#'`
`03:02.04`	`FuriousGeorge`	`sbingner: i stand corrected that does work`
`03:03.54`	`Lostfrog`	`I don't know what replaces striplsd off-hand.`
`03:04.47`	`sbingner`	`${EXTEN:0:-1} do anything?`
`03:04.47`	`ManxPower`	`Lostfrog, Something like ${EXTEN:-1} or something like that`
`03:04.48`	`sbingner`	`heh`
`03:04.54`	`ManxPower`	`See README.variables`
`03:05.08`	`Lostfrog`	`That would return the last digit, ManxPower.`
`03:05.22`	`ManxPower`	`Lostfrog, "or something like that".`
`03:05.35`	`ManxPower`	`I have stripped off LSD, I just don't recall when or how`
`03:05.39`	`sbingner`	`nope`
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`03:05.40`	`sbingner`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:05.40`	`sbingner`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:05.51`	`sbingner`	`unless the readme is wrong`
`03:06.35`	`sbingner`	`hrm, I think it might be.. seems contardictory`
`03:07.31`	`sbingner`	`bah I'm going to have to test it`
`03:07.44`	`Lostfrog`	`You could use regexp. :)`
`03:08.24`	`warthog`	`anyone know how to check the current version of your running zaptel driver if the source directory is missing?`
`03:10.22`	`Lostfrog`	`Hmm.. the examples lead me to believe that StripLSD is not obsolete.`
`03:10.33`	`Lostfrog`	`It would take two steps to remove x digits from the end.`
`03:11.11`	`Lostfrog`	`Maybe: ${STRING:0:$LEN(${STRING})} ?`
`03:11.27`	`Lostfrog`	`Maybe: ${STRING:0:$LEN(${STRING}-x)} ?`
`03:11.59`	`sbingner`	`accordig to the readme, 1. ${EXTEN:N} removes the first N numbers 2. ${EXTEN:-N} removes the last N characters 3. ${EXTEN:N:X} starts at N and returns X characters 4. ${EXTEN:-N:X} starts N characters from the end of the number and returns X characters`
`03:12.17`	`ManxPower`	`Lostfrog, There is an easy to Strip LSD, see the mailing list archives, that's where I figured it out.`
`03:12.37`	`FuriousGeorge`	`oh thats right 100# wont work because i cant use # in the dialplan like that`
`03:12.50`	`ManxPower`	`sbingner, So ${EXTEN:0:4) ?`
`03:13.26`	`sbingner`	`if EXTEN = 123456 that should return 1234 if it's the way the readme says`
`03:13.34`	`sbingner`	`I'll test it now tho`
`03:13.38`	`FuriousGeorge`	`Lostfrog: ${EXTEN:0:$[${LEN(${EXTEN})} - 1]}`
`03:13.40`	`Lostfrog`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:13.44`	`FuriousGeorge`	`qwell was just telling me that`
`03:13.49`	`sbingner`	`StripLSD(4) would be ${EXTEN:-4}`
`03:13.52`	`Lostfrog`	`That's what I just said.`
`03:14.03`	`FuriousGeorge`	`oh yeah`
`03:14.03`	`warthog`	`sbinger, vi the pw file works fine, just seem silly:-/`
`03:15.14`	`sbingner`	`warthog: nod`
`03:15.23`	`Lostfrog`	`Anyways.. I am off to watch TV.`
`03:15.33`	`Katty`	`anyone in chicago?`
`03:15.42`	`Katty`	`or chicagoy area`
`03:15.54`	`Katty`	`i require inflimation`
`03:16.08`	`Lostfrog`	`inflamation?`
`03:16.29`	`Katty`	`:<`
`03:17.53`	`pcm`	`lastfrog: ${EXTEN:0:-4} should count from the end`
`03:18.36`	`Lostfrog`	`I will try it tommorow, I am not pulling out a phone right now. :)`
`03:21.14`	`Lostfrog`	`The readme says a negative count will return the whole string.`
`03:21.42`	`ManxPower`	`Well, if the docs are wrong, report it on bugs.digium.com before they release RC2 tomorrow`
`03:21.58`	`Lostfrog`	`I will test it first thing in the morning.`
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`03:28.25`	`sbingner`	`second negative numbers are ignored`
`03:28.31`	`sbingner`	`123456789`
`03:28.31`	`sbingner`	`${EXTEN:2} = 3456789 = remove first two digits`
`03:28.31`	`sbingner`	`${EXTEN:-3} = 789 = return last three digits`
`03:28.31`	`sbingner`	`${EXTEN:2:2} = 34 start two digits in, return two digits`
`03:28.31`	`sbingner`	`${EXTEN:-3:2} = 78 = start 3 digits from end, return two digits`
`03:28.32`	`sbingner`	`${EXTEN:2:-2} = 3456789 = ignores negative second numbers`
`03:28.34`	`sbingner`	`${EXTEN:-3:-2} = 789 = ignores negative second numbers`
`03:29.22`	`Lostfrog`	`That's what I get to.`
`03:29.31`	`Lostfrog`	`too`
`03:30.35`	`sbingner`	`there's no StripLSD from there anyways, but the docs seem right`
`03:30.47`	`Katty`	`Nugget: kthx.`
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`03:36.05`	`Qwell`	`isn't StripLSD being removed soon anyhow?`
`03:36.33`	`Qwell`	`FuriousGeorge: mine should most certainly have worked...`
`03:37.13`	`mog_work`	`its gonna be gone come 1.2 qwell`
`03:37.22`	`Qwell`	`mog_work: s'what I thought.`
`03:37.55`	`Qwell`	`Did that bug disappear?`
`03:38.07`	`mog_work`	`it closed`
`03:38.11`	`mog_work`	`as that was resolution`
`03:38.12`	`Qwell`	`ahh, okay`
`03:38.17`	`Qwell`	`So it's already gone in head?`
`03:38.32`	`mog_work`	`im not sure i just coed head and building`
`03:38.35`	`mog_work`	`so ill find out soon`
`03:38.58`	`ManxPower`	`FuriousGeorge, actually you can have an exten => 100# with no issues, assumeing your device permits you to do so.`
`03:39.32`	`Lostfrog`	`${test:0:$[${LEN(${test})}-1]}`
`03:39.35`	`mog_work`	`yeh kevin says its gone in head`
`03:39.43`	`Qwell`	`Lostfrog: yes, thats what I said earlier...except I had spaces`
`03:41.12`	`sbingner`	`should modify it to support negative length variable`
`03:41.16`	`sbingner`	`would be simpler`
`03:41.22`	`Lostfrog`	`Sorry, Qwell, I didn't see your message.`
`03:41.28`	`Qwell`	`Lostfrog: it was a while ago`
`03:41.35`	`sbingner`	`wonder if it'd make it in if I did that`
`03:41.59`	`Lostfrog`	`StripLSD(1) is a lot nicer. :)`
`03:42.12`	`Qwell`	`StripLSD is dead`
`03:42.12`	`sbingner`	`StripLSD supposed to go away`
`03:42.19`	`Qwell`	`sbingner: already gone ;]`
`03:42.23`	`Lostfrog`	`I know.. just saying.`
`03:43.17`	`FuriousGeorge`	`ManxPower: im using eyebeam, which allows me to put it in`
`03:43.20`	`sbingner`	`Qwell: probably still on mine since make install didn't clean it or something`
`03:43.23`	`FuriousGeorge`	`but when i dial it just dont work`
`03:43.48`	`FuriousGeorge`	`wow, we're still talking about this`
`03:44.13`	`Qwell`	`FuriousGeorge: because it should work`
`03:44.32`	`FuriousGeorge`	`Qwell: what should the :0:-1`
`03:44.34`	`FuriousGeorge`	`?`
`03:44.40`	`FuriousGeorge`	`if so i agree`
`03:44.49`	`Qwell`	`no`
`03:44.54`	`Qwell`	`man bash`
`03:45.03`	`Qwell`	`if it doesn't say it should work in there, it shouldn't work in * either. :p`
`03:45.09`	`FuriousGeorge`	`i gotcha`
`03:45.23`	`sbingner`	`aah, would have to hack bison? that sucks`
`03:45.32`	`sbingner`	`or yacc?`
`03:45.48`	`FuriousGeorge`	`Qwell: then what should work? 100#?`
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`03:46.06`	`Qwell`	`per man bash - " length must evaluate to a number greater than or equal to zero"`
`03:46.47`	`sbingner`	`Qwell: do you know where the parsing is handled tho? Via external library yacc?`
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`03:46.54`	`bsdfreak`	`ooga`
`03:46.56`	`Qwell`	`sbingner: got me`
`03:47.21`	`Lostfrog`	`Then ${#varname} should be implemented. :)`
`03:47.59`	`Lostfrog`	`$[${#${var}}-1]`
`03:48.02`	`Lostfrog`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:48.35`	`FuriousGeorge`	`Qwell: your ${EXTEN:0:[LEN(${EXTEN} - 1)]} would have worked but for some reason eyebeam isnt allowing me to dial 100#, with 100* it worked`
`03:48.44`	`FuriousGeorge`	`if thats what you meant`
`03:48.54`	`Qwell`	`FuriousGeorge: # usually means "send" on most SIP devices`
`03:49.15`	`FuriousGeorge`	`oh yeah, that explains it`
`03:49.36`	`Lostfrog`	`Hmm.. I'm going to try regex "(*)."`
`03:51.21`	`FuriousGeorge`	`is there any way i could do something with parking so that calls get parked on ${PARKERSEXTEN}*X`
`03:51.33`	`FuriousGeorge`	`where x is a spot 1-9`
`03:51.45`	`FuriousGeorge`	`for a "reverse transfer"`
`03:52.39`	`FuriousGeorge`	`the people i work with are so freakin stupid, i got them that sipura phone not long ago and they still manage to set themselves on DND when trying to transfer`
`03:52.48`	`FuriousGeorge`	`and * just needs a reverse transfer anyway`
`03:53.56`	`sbingner`	`FuriousGeorge: astdb`
`03:53.57`	`FuriousGeorge`	`Nugget: what do you think about reverse transfers`
`03:54.06`	`FuriousGeorge`	`i forget`
`03:54.08`	`FuriousGeorge`	`~astdb`
`03:54.13`	`FuriousGeorge`	`the internal * satabase`
`03:54.15`	`FuriousGeorge`	`?`
`03:54.23`	`FuriousGeorge`	`*database?`
`03:54.30`	`Nugget`	`I'm too ignorant to have an opinion on that.`
`03:54.39`	`sbingner`	`just use astdb to keep track of a few extens and if there's a call parked there, and make the dialplan use the top level as a queue`
`03:54.45`	`sbingner`	`or something like that`
`03:54.52`	`sbingner`	`DBPut and DBGet`
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`03:55.44`	`FuriousGeorge`	`i dont get what a queue has to do with it?`
`03:56.31`	`FuriousGeorge`	`i have asterisk watch the parking spots, and if a call gets xferred there have it x-fer the call to the parker's exten plus * X?`
`03:56.52`	`FuriousGeorge`	`via an agi script?`
`03:58.05`	`FuriousGeorge`	`sbingner: ?`
`03:58.17`	`FuriousGeorge`	`well im not sure what you meant but the bottom line is i guess that it could be done`
`03:58.26`	`FuriousGeorge`	`but not easily`
`03:59.47`	`Lostfrog`	`$[${test}:"(.*)."] also works`
`04:00.00`	`ManxPower`	`FuriousGeorge, you mean something like exten => 311N,1,Park(${EXTEN}*${EXTEN:-1})`
`04:00.15`	`FuriousGeorge`	`hmm`
`04:00.20`	`FuriousGeorge`	`almost`
`04:00.37`	`FuriousGeorge`	`but i would like to have more than one spot per person, and i want that chick to tell me where it goes`
`04:01.15`	`FuriousGeorge`	`but hey its a start`
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`04:01.37`	`Qwell`	`exten => 0,1,Dial(SIP/operator) ;tell her to park it`
`04:01.43`	`sbingner`	`lol`
`04:01.52`	`FuriousGeorge`	`<drumb riff>`
`04:01.55`	`sbingner`	`need an app to tell you if a call is parked on an exten`
`04:02.01`	`ManxPower`	`FuriousGeorge, you can do things with Global variables and loops and indexes`
`04:02.32`	`ManxPower`	`The extensions.conf can be perverted for all sorts of evil things.`
`04:02.35`	`FuriousGeorge`	`and a counter?`
`04:02.48`	`sbingner`	`hmm yea vars probably safer than astdb - that way if ast restarts all the call info is cleared too`
`04:02.49`	`ManxPower`	`FuriousGeorge, the counter being the highest used parking lot.`
`04:02.50`	`FuriousGeorge`	`there is nothing perverted about reverse transfers`
`04:03.10`	`sbingner`	`what would suck is if your offset got screwed up or something`
`04:03.13`	`ManxPower`	`But I suspect an indexed "array" would be better, one slice for each parkingslot`
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`04:03.38`	`ManxPower`	`SetVar(INDEX=1)`
`04:03.49`	`tainted_`	`hey has anyone done business with a "Preston Garrison"`
`04:03.58`	`tainted_`	`or "Way2Fast" communications?`
`04:04.08`	`ManxPower`	`Noop(${PARKING[$INDEX}]})`
`04:04.15`	`Qwell`	`tainted_: did he finally get that going?`
`04:04.36`	`tainted_`	`Qwell get what going?`
`04:04.36`	`Qwell`	`tainted_: Preston is PTG123`
`04:04.37`	`tainted_`	`Qwell he ran with my money`
`04:04.42`	`Qwell`	`nice...`
`04:04.51`	`tainted_`	`yea - notice how he doesn't get on the channel anymore`
`04:05.04`	`FuriousGeorge`	`~seen ptg123`
`04:05.10`	`jbot`	`ptg123 <~PTG123@ip68-106-24-139.ph.ph.cox.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #asterisk, 175d 21h 34m 39s ago, saying: '"replace your phone lines with cheaper voip with better features, oh shit wait, actually scratch that, you need to keep your phone line to have a phone line with us, so forget saving money, pay more :)"'.`
`04:05.19`	`tainted_`	`i would love to find him and beat the shit out of him`
`04:05.51`	`tainted_`	`i'm sure he's around under another alias`
`04:06.21`	`tainted_`	`Qwell what was he trying to get going?`
`04:06.29`	`Qwell`	`way2fast communications, I guess`
`04:07.03`	`FuriousGeorge`	`ManxPower: when you talk about an indexed array you are talking about an AGI script, right?`
`04:07.11`	`ManxPower`	`FuriousGeorge, No.`
`04:07.27`	`ManxPower`	`Asterisk extensions.conf doesn't REALLY support arrays, but you can fake it pretty well.`
`04:07.45`	`FuriousGeorge`	`i see`
`04:08.08`	`FuriousGeorge`	`ill start with one slot per person`
`04:08.12`	`ManxPower`	`If INDEX=1 and PARKING=555 then what would ${PARKING[${INDEX}]}`
`04:08.24`	`FuriousGeorge`	`1555 :)`
`04:08.27`	`FuriousGeorge`	`j/k`
`04:08.31`	`Lostfrog`	`lol`
`04:08.40`	`FuriousGeorge`	`index=index+1`
`04:08.51`	`FuriousGeorge`	`i took Pascal in HS :)`
`04:09.05`	`FuriousGeorge`	`really comming in handy now`
`04:09.06`	`ManxPower`	`it would evaluate to no, it would evaluate to PARKING[1] which would evaluage to 555[1]`
`04:09.09`	`FuriousGeorge`	`*coming`
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`04:09.44`	`FuriousGeorge`	`ManxPower: yeah, i saw what you meant`
`04:09.49`	`ManxPower`	`remember [ and ] are literals, they are PART of the variable name.`
`04:10.00`	`FuriousGeorge`	`oh`
`04:10.27`	`ManxPower`	`SetVar(PARKING[1]=LOT1)`
`04:11.33`	`ManxPower`	`and if INDEX=1 then ${PARKING[${INDEX}]) would evaluate to ${PARKING[1]} which would evaluate to LOT1`
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`04:12.06`	`Qwell`	`ManxPower: should do an advanced variable thing at the next astricon, heh`
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`04:12.24`	`ManxPower`	`Qwell, AEL makes all this stuff not needed anymore`
`04:12.33`	`Qwell`	`never looked at ael`
`04:13.36`	`FuriousGeorge`	`ManxPower: i see what you mean but how does that translate to getting calls parked on {PARKEREXTEN}*{SPOT}`
`04:15.02`	`FuriousGeorge`	`oh wait`
`04:15.28`	`FuriousGeorge`	`if the [] is on the left side of the = * will treat it as an array`
`04:15.34`	`Qwell`	`FuriousGeorge: no`
`04:15.42`	`Qwell`	`it's part of the variable name, technically`
`04:15.46`	`dos000`	`anyone has links to seting up postgres for * cdr ?`
`04:15.56`	`Qwell`	`PARKING[1] is literally the name of the var`
`04:16.00`	`ManxPower`	`FuriousGeorge, As I said they are not REALLY arrays, just a bunch of variables names PARKING[1] and PARKING[2]`
`04:16.12`	`dos000`	`i need the table creation scripts if there are any`
`04:16.16`	`ManxPower`	`To us [ ] means "array", to Asterisk it's just another character in a vaiable name`
`04:16.28`	`Qwell`	`but they do sorta work the same way`
`04:16.33`	`Qwell`	`at least...they appear to`
`04:16.37`	`ManxPower`	`http://pastebin.ca/28434`
`04:17.45`	`ManxPower`	`That shows a few of the things you can do when we think of arrays`
`04:18.38`	`tainted_`	`i will paypal $200.00 for any information that helps me locate Preston Garrison - please message me`
`04:19.08`	`tainted_`	`Preston Garrison (PTG123) of Way2Fast Communications`
`04:19.16`	`FuriousGeorge`	`Qwell: yeah im getting that, im just trying to wrap my mind around it for my application`
`04:19.18`	`ManxPower`	`tainted_, you must have lost a lot of money`
`04:19.46`	`ManxPower`	`FuriousGeorge, I don't know if it can help, but it is another creative thing to work into the final solution.`
`04:20.06`	`FuriousGeorge`	`tainted_: couldnt you whois and take a stab at it if he is connecting from the same place as he was when`
`04:20.10`	`FuriousGeorge`	`~seen ptg123`
`04:20.11`	`jbot`	`ptg123 <~PTG123@ip68-106-24-139.ph.ph.cox.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #asterisk, 175d 21h 49m 40s ago, saying: '"replace your phone lines with cheaper voip with better features, oh shit wait, actually scratch that, you need to keep your phone line to have a phone line with us, so forget saving money, pay more :)"'.`
`04:20.11`	`ManxPower`	`FuriousGeorge, you know there is an app_directedparking, right? (or something called that). You would prolly have to port it to CVS/1.2`
`04:20.12`	`tainted_`	`ManxPower i have lost money, sleep, my reputation has been dragged through the mud`
`04:20.24`	`ManxPower`	`tainted_, Ah, an Investor 8-)`
`04:20.29`	`dos000`	`anyone used areski stat here ?`
`04:20.40`	`FuriousGeorge`	`tainted_: id think that'd be worth than 200 :)`
`04:21.05`	`ManxPower`	`Young people with great ideas. Most of them fail.`
`04:21.10`	`tainted_`	`FuriousGeorge if you have the information, name your price - i'm good for the money`
`04:21.18`	`tainted_`	`up to a reasonable number`
`04:21.55`	`tainted_`	`i cannot describe the amount of stress he has put me through`
`04:22.15`	`FuriousGeorge`	`tainted_: i dont, but i was wondering if the ~PTG123@ip68-106-24-139.ph.ph.cox.net would help you locate him in some way`
`04:23.02`	`FuriousGeorge`	`ManxPower: you think i can port that app to 1.2 with the pascal and basic i learned 7 years ago :)`
`04:23.19`	`ManxPower`	`FuriousGeorge, no, but money will get someone else to do it for you.`
`04:23.40`	`ManxPower`	`Like the $10 bounty I posted.`
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`04:24.56`	`FuriousGeorge`	`ManxPower: i hadn't heard about that but howabout this`
`04:25.40`	`FuriousGeorge`	`using that transitive equality thing you described above, i could just have someone prompt the user "enter spot number"`
`04:25.58`	`ManxPower`	`FuriousGeorge, Yes.`
`04:26.22`	`ManxPower`	`But if you can prompt them for it, you can just have them enter the info as part of the number they dial.`
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`04:26.48`	`FuriousGeorge`	`true`
`04:26.51`	`ManxPower`	`And if you were REALLY clever, you could so some kick ass stuff with extensions.`
`04:27.14`	`ManxPower`	`FuriousGeorge, Are you wanting parked calls to ring back to the extension that parked them?`
`04:27.30`	`FuriousGeorge`	`ManxPower: yeah, i probably need that fallback`
`04:27.47`	`FuriousGeorge`	`since there will be no led to indicate they have someone on hold if they forget`
`04:28.19`	`FuriousGeorge`	`but if im gonna use park => i would think it would ring back in the time i define in features.conf`
`04:29.01`	`FuriousGeorge`	`no?`
`04:29.14`	`ManxPower`	`FuriousGeorge, I thought 1.2 would ring back to the person that parked the call after the timeout. 1.0 always times out to exten => s`
`04:29.45`	`FuriousGeorge`	`im not sure, im using 1.0.9 still`
`04:29.50`	`ManxPower`	`Yes, if the time expires and the caller will be spit out of the parking lot and they have to go somewhere.`
`04:30.02`	`ManxPower`	`1.0 WILL always timeout to exten => s`
`04:30.21`	`ManxPower`	`We just send those calls to the operator, she can handle the parking timeour`
`04:30.22`	`FuriousGeorge`	`i havent played with parking and my users cant grasp the concept`
`04:30.54`	`ManxPower`	`FuriousGeorge, the directed parking app was pretty cool.`
`04:31.01`	`ManxPower`	`look on openpbx.org`
`04:34.42`	`FuriousGeorge`	`ManxPower: im not finding it`
`04:35.28`	`FuriousGeorge`	`is there a global variable for the callers exten?`
`04:35.31`	`ManxPower`	`FuriousGeorge, ask either bkw_ or anthm`
`04:35.39`	`ManxPower`	`FuriousGeorge, That would be CALLERID`
`04:35.49`	`FuriousGeorge`	`ah`
`04:35.52`	`FuriousGeorge`	`of course`
`04:36.00`	`FuriousGeorge`	`i didnt think about it in terms of internal users`
`04:36.08`	`FuriousGeorge`	`:)`
`04:36.59`	`FuriousGeorge`	`ManxPower: thanks for your help, im gonna see if i can get this kicking in a few days`
`04:38.16`	`stbain`	`hrmmm.... here's a good one for you. To turn on the MWI for my phones, I have to dial out my FXO port to a PBX system, dial *42[extension], and hang up... something tells me I'm gonna be breaking out some C code here soon`
`04:38.34`	`ManxPower`	`stbain, Gads no.`
`04:38.50`	`denon`	`disable MWI :)`
`04:39.09`	`stbain`	`denon: BOFH approach won't work here :(`
`04:39.20`	`denon`	`spose ..`
`04:39.27`	`denon`	`course I dont check my own voicemail, secretary does`
`04:39.43`	`ManxPower`	`stbain, using a bit of perl, vmnotify= in voicemail.conf and some .call files you should be well on your way to making it work`
`04:39.52`	`denon`	`its always comical .. the people who refuse to leave a message with her .. leave it in my vmail, then she checks it`
`04:39.57`	`denon`	`and tells me only what I need to know`
`04:41.07`	`stbain`	`ManxPower: I looked in the sample and in the wiki and didn't see any vmnotify`
`04:41.57`	`ManxPower`	`[root@pbx-1 root]# grep notify /home/software/asterisk/asterisk/configs/voicemail.conf.sample`
`04:41.57`	`ManxPower`	`;externnotify=/usr/bin/myapp`
`04:42.12`	`stbain`	`ahhh... now that I did see`
`04:42.29`	`ManxPower`	`I've had a long day.`
`04:45.22`	`sbingner`	`denon: or you could just have all your voicemails go into the same box heh`
`04:45.39`	`denon`	`sbingner: well, thats what we do sorta -- she checks em via imap`
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`04:53.16`	`stbain`	`ManxPower: you're referring to the vmnotify Perl script, correct?`
`04:54.08`	`ManxPower`	`stbain, I wasn't aware there was one. But you could write one quite easily to generate the correct .call file to stuff in /var/spool/asterisk/outgoing`
`04:55.14`	`stbain`	`yes... looks like it calls the script with the args: context, extension, number of voicemails`
`04:55.31`	`stbain`	`I can easily whip up a perl/python program to generate the call file`
`04:55.51`	`stbain`	`now... how to turn them off after voicemail is checked?`
`04:55.52`	`stbain`	`hehe`
`04:56.02`	`ManxPower`	`stbain, Aye, there's the rub!`
`04:56.04`	`*** topic/#asterisk by denon -> Asterisk 1.2.0 RC2 has been released! Please try it out! \|\| http://www.asterisk.org`
`04:56.15`	`stbain`	`cron job I guess`
`04:56.35`	`ManxPower`	`stbain, pay someone to write a vmdeletenotify= option for Astertisk`
`04:56.52`	`stbain`	`or even better`
`04:57.03`	`stbain`	`externmwion= and externmwioff=`
`04:57.08`	`ManxPower`	`extend vmnotify= to indicate what you are notifying about.`
`04:57.24`	`ManxPower`	`sorry,`
`04:58.25`	`ManxPower`	`externotify=/path/to/bob,pl and asterisk passes context, extension, number of new voicemails, message created\|message destroyed`
`04:58.59`	`stbain`	`ahhh`
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`04:59.09`	`stbain`	`so I could key off the "message destroyed"`
`04:59.21`	`ManxPower`	`stbain, my externotify option runs /usr/local/bin/vmnotify.pl or something like that`
`04:59.39`	`ManxPower`	`stbain, it would be a trivial patch for someone that knows the code to do.`
`04:59.53`	`ManxPower`	`Hmm...maybe not.`
`05:00.15`	`Qwell`	`probably not trivial`
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`05:00.56`	`ManxPower`	`Qwell, you'd have to call the function when a message is left and when a message is deleted.`
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`05:01.36`	`ComputerWarm`	`Hello all question, i have a php agi script. how do i get a varible from asterisk, in the php script... i need to get the numbers the person presses after entering the php script`
`05:01.40`	`stbain`	`or....`
`05:01.42`	`stbain`	`in the dialplan`
`05:01.49`	`stbain`	`when someone hits the VoiceMailMain`
`05:02.00`	`stbain`	`afterwards, call a system command`
`05:04.12`	`ManxPower`	`ComputerWarm, there is a PHP library to make AGI much easier.`
`05:04.52`	`ManxPower`	`Results 1 - 10 of about 916 from lists.digium.com for PHP AGI. (0.15 seconds)`
`05:05.02`	`ManxPower`	`~mailinglist`
`05:05.03`	`jbot`	`mailinglist is, like, Search Asterisk mailing lists by prepending site:lists.digium.com to your Google search. Browse the mailing list archive at http://lists.digium.com/`
`05:05.25`	`ComputerWarm`	`ManxPower phpagi ?`
`05:05.41`	`ManxPower`	`ComputerWarm, I think so.`
`05:06.35`	`ComputerWarm`	ManxPower ya thats what this guy has attached to his script... there are somethings that need to be fixed. PHP i know agi script i don`t
`05:08.11`	`ManxPower`	`ComputerWarm, Well the original AGI library was asterisk-agi IF you take a look at that, you might be able to adapt that to PHP.`
`05:08.59`	`ComputerWarm`	`ok thanks is that on the wiki?`
`05:09.02`	`stbain`	`hrmm..... there's a msg####.txt file for each message`
`05:09.29`	`stbain`	`wonder if I could parse that somehow`
`05:09.52`	`deezed`	`you don't want to use this class? http://phpagi.sourceforge.net/`
`05:11.40`	`ManxPower`	`Wow! phpagi sure has matured.`
`05:12.29`	`ComputerWarm`	`deezed ya thats the class he used. but i need to get some type of understanding on how its getting its information`
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`05:24.57`	`ComputerWarm`	`anyone here using A2billing?`
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`05:29.38`	`brookshire`	`what's up?`
`05:29.39`	`brookshire`	`:D`
`05:29.49`	`twisted[digium]`	`not much`
`05:30.38`	`*** join/#asterisk SwK (n=SwK@dpc6745230018.direcpc.com)`
`05:30.38`	`file[laptop]`	`hey hey hey`
`05:30.44`	`twisted[digium]`	`oh shizer`
`05:30.53`	`file[laptop]`	`O.O`
`05:30.56`	`file[laptop]`	`it's me!!!`
`05:30.57`	`twisted[digium]`	`hi file[laptop]`
`05:30.58`	`dos000`	`is it possible to know if * is able to open the postgres db for cdr logs ?`
`05:31.00`	`twisted[digium]`	`i know who you are`
`05:31.03`	`file[laptop]`	`hey twisted`
`05:31.24`	`twisted[digium]`	`huh/`
`05:31.31`	`file[laptop]`	`O.O`
`05:31.35`	`twisted[digium]`	`you aren't?`
`05:31.44`	`file[laptop]`	`or, am I?`
`05:31.52`	`twisted[digium]`	`you swore you weren't`
`05:32.07`	`file[laptop]`	`did I? wow`
`05:32.13`	`twisted[digium]`	`haha.`
`05:32.24`	`brookshire`	`hey file!`
`05:32.29`	`brookshire`	`how's junky?`
`05:32.30`	`file[laptop]`	`brookshire!!!`
`05:32.33`	`file[laptop]`	`he's good`
`05:32.36`	`file[laptop]`	`he's been into redbull`
`05:32.38`	`twisted[digium]`	`HOW good?`
`05:32.38`	`brookshire`	`with mattf ;)`
`05:32.39`	`wunderkin`	`file[laptop] has gotten into the forbidden muffins`
`05:32.45`	`brookshire`	`and josh`
`05:32.45`	`file[laptop]`	`and blitzrage is having vodka with redbull`
`05:32.54`	`brookshire`	`josh: we need rebdull`
`05:32.59`	`twisted[digium]`	`brookshire indeed`
`05:33.05`	`twisted[digium]`	`oh no`
`05:33.07`	`bsdfreak`	`enemy boat spotted!`
`05:34.23`	`twisted[digium]`	`brb`
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`05:37.06`	`Rawplayer`	`hey the o'reilly asterisk book is nice :)`
`05:37.26`	`file[laptop]`	`twisted[digium]: answer your cellphone you lazy twat`
`05:37.33`	`file[laptop]`	`or else I'll club you over the head`
`05:37.35`	`twisted[digium]`	`file[laptop] my cellphone is dead`
`05:37.48`	`file[laptop]`	`fine, what's Mark's extension? or mattf's?`
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`05:38.02`	`mog_home`	`6288`
`05:38.03`	`mog_home`	`why`
`05:38.06`	`twisted[digium]`	`that's it`
`05:42.05`	`twisted[digium]`	`humpty dumpty sat on a wall`
`05:42.11`	`twisted[digium]`	`humpty dumpty had a good fall`
`05:42.44`	`hypa7ia`	`twisted[digium]: bored?`
`05:42.45`	`emdub`	`anyone familiar w/ 7960s? i have a question about softkeys`
`05:43.09`	`Qwell`	`emdub: shoot`
`05:43.16`	`twisted[digium]`	`hypa7ia yea`
`05:43.24`	`twisted[digium]`	`lick at that sticker says brookshire`
`05:43.29`	`Qwell`	`Why do people say humpty dumpty was an egg?`
`05:43.38`	`Qwell`	`It's never once stated, or even implied, in the story`
`05:43.48`	`emdub`	`is it possible to change the softkeys on the root page? i want to change the voicemail key to forward to a specific number instead of asking which ext to forward it to`
`05:43.56`	`twisted[digium]`	`Qwell i never said he was an egg`
`05:43.59`	`yxa`	`cisco phones has a user directory at the click of a button. how is that implemented?`
`05:44.04`	`Qwell`	`didn't say you did`
`05:44.07`	`emdub`	`yxa - xml`
`05:44.08`	`twisted[digium]`	`okay dokay`
`05:44.40`	`twisted[digium]`	`jaaaaar says br`
`05:44.42`	`twisted[digium]`	`er brookshire`
`05:44.54`	`Qwell`	`emdub: I don't think you can change the root softkeys. Not with the SIP image at least, and not via XML`
`05:45.00`	`emdub`	`ahh`
`05:45.01`	`emdub`	`bummer`
`05:45.07`	`yxa`	`emdub TFTP?`
`05:45.22`	`emdub`	`yxa - http requests to xml objects`
`05:45.58`	`yxa`	`emdub i see. is is cisco the only phones that can do that?`
`05:46.03`	`emdub`	`dunno`
`05:46.07`	`emdub`	`its pretty powerful`
`05:46.09`	`emdub`	`i dig it`
`05:46.18`	`emdub`	`i wish the color phones supported sip`
`05:46.22`	`*** join/#asterisk br00ksh1r3 (n=matt@gateway.digium.com)`
`05:46.34`	`twisted[digium]`	`oh gn0`
`05:47.15`	`yxa`	`emdub 7970s?`
`05:47.23`	`emdub`	`ya`
`05:47.40`	`yxa`	`emdub wish i have one of those`
`05:47.54`	`emdub`	`i would get one if it had a sip image`
`05:47.56`	`Qwell`	`I want a 7961...`
`05:48.02`	`Qwell`	`colored buttons are sweet. :D`
`05:48.07`	`Qwell`	`emdub: why? sccp rocks`
`05:48.19`	`br00ksh1r3`	`z0mg`
`05:48.24`	`hypa7ia`	`7971`
`05:48.27`	`hypa7ia`	`gigabit goodness`
`05:48.33`	`twisted[digium]`	`hypa7ia`
`05:48.35`	`hypa7ia`	`but like $1200 :(`
`05:48.38`	`hypa7ia`	`twisted[digium]`
`05:48.41`	`twisted[digium]`	`hypa7ia`
`05:48.47`	`hypa7ia`	`sup`
`05:48.48`	`twisted[digium]`	`hypa7ia hypa7ia hypa7ia`
`05:48.51`	`br00ksh1r3`	`h1`
`05:48.55`	`hypa7ia`	`twisted[digium] twisted[digium] twisted[digium]`
`05:49.20`	`Qwell`	`hypa7ia: They aren't anywhere near $1200...`
`05:49.26`	`twisted[digium]`	`yay`
`05:49.27`	`twisted[digium]`	`broom`
`05:49.31`	`Qwell`	`something like $550`
`05:49.34`	`Qwell`	`from cisco anyhow`
`05:49.48`	`hypa7ia`	`lemme check`
`05:50.07`	`Qwell`	`got it up right now`
`05:50.10`	`file[laptop]`	`hypa7ia & Qwell: blitzrage says "hi"`
`05:50.20`	`Qwell`	`CP-7971G-GE Cisco IP Phone 7971G-GE, Global, Gig Ethernet USD 549.00`
`05:50.36`	`Qwell`	`file[laptop]: poke him!`
`05:50.51`	`hypa7ia`	`file[laptop]: return them a "hi" and an "i wish i was in mtl :("`
`05:51.13`	`emdub`	`does the 7971 support SIP?`
`05:51.16`	`JunK-Y`	`and i say ho ho ho.`
`05:51.22`	`hypa7ia`	`Qwell: but don't forget the licence :p`
`05:51.28`	`hypa7ia`	`and i was thinking CAD :(`
`05:51.29`	`Qwell`	`hypa7ia: $98`
`05:51.30`	`twisted[digium]`	`hypa7ia: hsv is so much bettar`
`05:51.40`	`Qwell`	`cad is only like 20% more. Still nowhere near $1200`
`05:51.54`	`hypa7ia`	`the ul is 254 CAD`
`05:52.17`	`hypa7ia`	`and most people get the cube`
`05:52.28`	`hypa7ia`	`which comes to... 1425 CAD total`
`05:52.53`	`yxa`	`what the 7971 lacks now is a webcam :)`
`05:53.01`	`twisted[digium]`	`noooooooo`
`05:53.06`	`hypa7ia`	`so with the 40% off we seem to give everyone.... 855 CAD`
`05:53.33`	`hypa7ia`	`yxa: the cisco re-branded Tanberg is like $5000`
`05:53.50`	`hypa7ia`	`twisted[digium]: i'll have to come visit sometime :)`
`05:53.57`	`yxa`	`hypa7ia no shit`
`05:53.58`	`twisted[digium]`	`hypa7ia: yeppers`
`05:54.17`	`wunderkin`	`twisted: thanks for your patch 5577 :D`
`05:54.23`	`Qwell`	`hypa7ia: ul?`
`05:54.27`	`twisted[digium]`	`wunderkin youre welcome :)`
`05:54.32`	`*** join/#asterisk jebba (n=jebba@ip-216-17-154-58.rev.frii.com)`
`05:54.42`	`hypa7ia`	`user licence`
`05:54.49`	`Qwell`	`damn, thats alot`
`05:54.49`	`jebba`	`is there any way to use meetme and not ztdummy? I'm running asterisk inside a vserver...`
`05:54.52`	`twisted[digium]`	`speaking of which`
`05:54.56`	`twisted[digium]`	`i need to go update that patch`
`05:55.12`	`hypa7ia`	`jebba: some vservers will let you do modules`
`05:55.18`	`hypa7ia`	`are you on unixshell?`
`05:55.27`	`Qwell`	`hypa7ia: is that direct from cisco?`
`05:55.37`	`hypa7ia`	`yup`
`05:55.43`	`hypa7ia`	`dynamic config tool`
`05:55.45`	`Qwell`	`Why is it exactly 2x as much in CAD?`
`05:55.48`	`Qwell`	`$127 USD`
`05:55.53`	`hypa7ia`	`-_^`
`05:55.55`	`hypa7ia`	`weird`
`05:55.56`	`hypa7ia`	`haha`
`05:56.02`	`emdub`	`hmm google says nothing about a 7971 sip image :(`
`05:56.03`	`Qwell`	`lemme guess...`
`05:56.04`	`hypa7ia`	`that's so cisco`
`05:56.11`	`hypa7ia`	`oh emdub there isn't one`
`05:56.11`	`Qwell`	`PWR-CUBE-3 is $68?`
`05:56.15`	`hypa7ia`	`69`
`05:56.17`	`emdub`	`why /cry`
`05:56.18`	`hypa7ia`	`haha`
`05:56.18`	`Qwell`	`wtf`
`05:56.20`	`Qwell`	`$29`
`05:56.26`	`Qwell`	`and, I was totally off by $10`
`05:56.33`	`hypa7ia`	`Qwell: are you talking wholesale, or SRP?`
`05:56.43`	`hypa7ia`	`because i was giving SRP`
`05:56.46`	`Qwell`	`wholesale is the only list I can see`
`05:56.51`	`jebba`	`so hypa7ia meetme without ztdummy is a no-go, eh? getting a ztdummy driver into this kernel & setup is inconvient, to say the least...`
`05:56.54`	Math`	`SRP being?`
`05:57.12`	`hypa7ia`	`jebba: it's a no-go. your timing will screw up almost immediately`
`05:57.19`	`hypa7ia`	`suggested retail price`
`05:57.21`	Math`	`jebba: and compiling a new kernel...... ?`
`05:57.22`	`coppice`	`Standard Ripoff Price`
`05:57.22`	`Qwell`	`CP-PWR-CORD-NA like what, $500?`
`05:57.26`	`hypa7ia`	`lol`
`05:57.27`	`hypa7ia`	`$13`
`05:57.34`	`jebba`	Math`, ya, and shutting down all other vservers.....
`05:57.38`	`Qwell`	`I'm showing $7...`
`05:57.45`	`Qwell`	`Why do I only see the wholesale pricing?`
`05:57.47`	Math`	`jebba: make the kernel update quick :)`
`05:57.49`	`hypa7ia`	`Qwell: i have no access to the wholesale list... but i know what the margins are :)`
`05:58.03`	`*** join/#asterisk blitzrage (n=blitzrag@asterisk/documenteur-extraordinaire/blitzrage)`
`05:58.14`	`Qwell`	`I didn't do anything special to get this list, or anything`
`05:58.16`	`blitzrage`	`y0 y0 y0 y0`
`05:58.19`	`Qwell`	`just signed an ICA...`
`05:58.23`	Math`	`yo`
`05:58.25`	`blitzrage`	`y0`
`05:58.29`	`blitzrage`	Math`, wuz up?
`05:58.32`	Math`	`not much`
`05:58.50`	Math`	`was actually going to sleep`
`05:58.50`	`hypa7ia`	`hey blitzrage`
`06:00.01`	`blitzrage`	`hypa7ia, y0!!!`
`06:00.16`	`hypa7ia`	`hihi`
`06:00.48`	`blitzrage`	`how goes?`
`06:00.57`	`hypa7ia`	`Qwell: i'm looking at the list that they gave me access to at work... and we're like the biggest integrator in canada. go figure :/`
`06:01.00`	`br00ksh1r3`	`:D`
`06:01.14`	`hypa7ia`	`blitzrage: pretty good, other than not being in montreal :(`
`06:01.19`	`blitzrage`	`hypa7ia, too bad`
`06:01.26`	`blitzrage`	`hypa7ia, I'm in the middle of stipping`
`06:01.31`	`blitzrage`	`stripping*`
`06:01.39`	`hypa7ia`	`o_0`
`06:01.46`	`file[laptop]`	`br00ksh1r3: I'm gonna get you!`
`06:01.47`	`blitzrage`	`lol`
`06:01.56`	`twisted[digium]`	`hey wunderkin`
`06:01.59`	`twisted[digium]`	`you still around?`
`06:02.09`	`wunderkin`	`twisted: yeah.. ouch`
`06:02.15`	`twisted[digium]`	`wunderkin i didn't punch you`
`06:02.17`	`*** join/#asterisk shmooz (n=shmooz@H142.C72.B0.tor.eicat.ca)`
`06:02.17`	`wunderkin`	`:P`
`06:02.20`	`file[laptop]`	`hey br its junky whats up]`
`06:02.24`	`twisted[digium]`	`wunderkin, what would you suggest the new name be if i can't use fakefifo? :P`
`06:02.28`	`wunderkin`	`i dunno`
`06:02.34`	`wunderkin`	`workhowitshould?`
`06:02.47`	`twisted[digium]`	`i was thinking something like autofill`
`06:02.53`	`blitzrage`	`I've had too much to drink me thinks`
`06:03.21`	`file[laptop]`	`4 redbulls in 1 day for blitzrage !!!!`
`06:03.25`	`wunderkin`	`i think it should just work that way`
`06:03.26`	`blitzrage`	`totally`
`06:03.27`	`file[laptop]`	`thats a record.`
`06:03.30`	`blitzrage`	`with vodka`
`06:03.31`	`twisted[digium]`	`wunderkin me too`
`06:03.36`	Math`	`vodka redbull rocks`
`06:03.39`	`hypa7ia`	`irc + drunk people = funny`
`06:03.40`	`twisted[digium]`	`wunderkin but, we need to still support the old method`
`06:03.41`	`mog_home`	`ew`
`06:03.45`	`blitzrage`	`I'm surprised I haven't messed up[ my typing tha tmuch`
`06:03.47`	`mog_home`	`drunkholism is bad`
`06:03.48`	`mog_home`	`mkay`
`06:03.49`	Math`	`ll`
`06:03.56`	`blitzrage`	`mog_home, yah right`
`06:04.01`	`file[laptop]`	`party will move at aria soon`
`06:04.02`	`blitzrage`	`hypa7ia, agreed`
`06:04.04`	`br00ksh1r3`	`mog_home: z0mg bring your makers mark here`
`06:04.09`	`blitzrage`	`aria y0`
`06:04.11`	Math`	`file[laptop]: ur in mtl too?`
`06:04.11`	`mog_home`	`lol`
`06:04.14`	`blitzrage`	`areola!`
`06:04.14`	`mog_home`	`its on the shelf`
`06:04.16`	`file[laptop]`	`ya`
`06:04.17`	`mog_home`	`you want it`
`06:04.19`	Math`	`where?`
`06:04.19`	`twisted[digium]`	`blitzrage, word!`
`06:04.19`	`mog_home`	`come get it`
`06:04.24`	`file[laptop]`	`at junkys appat`
`06:04.26`	`twisted[digium]`	`br00ksh1r3 you suck`
`06:04.27`	`hypa7ia`	`you gotta watch out for the digium guys tho, going to troll in #fedora when drunk :p`
`06:04.28`	Math`	`hehe`
`06:04.31`	`file[laptop]`	`actually its junky`
`06:04.31`	`twisted[digium]`	`br00ksh1r3 beat match :P`
`06:04.47`	`br00ksh1r3`	`HAHA`
`06:04.50`	`br00ksh1r3`	`WE SO DO!`
`06:04.56`	`mog_home`	`lol`
`06:04.59`	`mog_home`	`trolling is fun`
`06:05.03`	`twisted[digium]`	`hypa7ia word.`
`06:05.10`	`twisted[digium]`	`wunderkin, so no ideas/`
`06:05.13`	`hypa7ia`	`trolling is endlessly entertaining`
`06:05.22`	`wunderkin`	`twisted: not really, i was thinking about it earlier too`
`06:05.26`	`twisted[digium]`	`hypa7ia, your mom is endlessly entertaining`
`06:05.56`	`hypa7ia`	`hehe watch it twisted[digium], next time you come up here she'll hold you in contempt of court or something :p`
`06:06.06`	`twisted[digium]`	`hypa7ia, haha... :P`
`06:06.21`	`FuriousGeorge`	`lets say i wanted to park calls based on the CID of the user parking`
`06:06.22`	`twisted[digium]`	`emdub nice.. you'll give someone $5 to break the law.`
`06:06.36`	`emdub`	`plz`
`06:06.43`	`FuriousGeorge`	`the global var only refers to the calling party right?`
`06:06.50`	`emdub`	`i have cco account, i was more talking about having an image in existance :)`
`06:06.58`	`twisted[digium]`	`emdub ooooooh`
`06:07.01`	`twisted[digium]`	`emdub my mistake.`
`06:07.03`	`Qwell`	`twisted[digium]: and perform a mini miracle`
`06:07.04`	`Qwell`	`yeah`
`06:07.13`	`br00ksh1r3`	`blisted!`
`06:07.28`	`file[laptop]`	`blitzrage needs a chick`
`06:07.37`	`blitzrage`	`agreed`
`06:07.42`	`konfuzed`	`hey is amd 600 w via chips set good enough to run asterisk with 2 x100p cards`
`06:07.47`	`blitzrage`	`LOL`
`06:07.49`	`file[laptop]`	`blitzrage: eBay!`
`06:07.51`	`blitzrage`	`is anything?`
`06:08.08`	`file[laptop]`	`good idea`
`06:08.09`	`hypa7ia`	`haha`
`06:08.17`	`hypa7ia`	`i bet there are realdolls on ebay o_0`
`06:08.21`	`blitzrage`	`LOL`
`06:08.25`	`file[laptop]`	`hypa7ia: previously used? eep!`
`06:08.25`	`blitzrage`	`no dolls for me`
`06:08.31`	`blitzrage`	`hypa7ia, evil`
`06:08.57`	`file[laptop]`	`blitzrage: in a drunken state... DO IT!`
`06:09.04`	`hypa7ia`	`fuck, the coursebook for my data structures course gets 2/5 stars on amazon :(`
`06:09.04`	`mog_home`	`man everyone is at the office`
`06:09.08`	`mog_home`	`i left too soon....`
`06:09.11`	`blitzrage`	`file[laptop], I dare you to call from my cell`
`06:09.19`	`blitzrage`	`mog_home, yep -- you did`
`06:09.28`	`file[laptop]`	`blitzrage: I'll do it!!!`
`06:09.32`	`file[laptop]`	`oh god`
`06:09.33`	`file[laptop]`	`here we go`
`06:09.37`	`blitzrage`	`LOL`
`06:10.01`	`konfuzed`	`so is the amd600 as low as ya go with asterisk and x100p or`
`06:10.09`	`wunderkin`	`do we want to know what kind of action?`
`06:10.12`	`konfuzed`	`can that handle like a lan for 100`
`06:10.15`	`blitzrage`	`people use X100P still?`
`06:10.16`	`konfuzed`	`hhheeeee`
`06:10.17`	`konfuzed`	`no`
`06:10.20`	`konfuzed`	`hm`
`06:10.25`	`GXTi`	`clones, sure`
`06:10.28`	`konfuzed`	`write???`
`06:10.42`	`FuriousGeorge`	`ok`
`06:10.45`	`GXTi`	`they're $10 a piece and get the job done`
`06:10.51`	`GXTi`	`assuming you don't want CID or anything`
`06:10.58`	`blitzrage`	`s/(w+)-+\qm*&gh`
`06:11.04`	`blitzrage`	`ManxPower, y0!`
`06:11.11`	`ManxPower`	`Hiya, blitzrage`
`06:11.17`	`blitzrage`	`ManxPower, wuz up?`
`06:11.37`	`ManxPower`	`blitzrage, The usual life drama`
`06:11.43`	`blitzrage`	`interesting`
`06:11.55`	`ManxPower`	`I now own a car`
`06:12.01`	`blitzrage`	`w00t`
`06:12.03`	`*** join/#asterisk ComputerWarm (n=dan@rddrpx23-port-8.dial.telus.net)`
`06:12.05`	`ComputerWarm`	`Hello all is there anyway to go through a load a different files in a directory, and change with in the file test to wtest with out having to go through each file one by one?`
`06:12.13`	`ManxPower`	`A 2002 Saturn SL1`
`06:12.26`	`ManxPower`	`Which refuses to start 3 days after I get it.`
`06:12.30`	`ManxPower`	`you know, life drama`
`06:12.38`	Math`	`ComputerWarm: like... with "mv" ?`
`06:12.39`	`blitzrage`	`interesting`
`06:12.44`	`ComputerWarm`	i know this isn`t really a asterisk question but i figured someone would know
`06:12.57`	`ComputerWarm`	Math` i need to change stuff with in the file... not the filename
`06:13.04`	`FuriousGeorge`	`hey ManxPower you remember i was talking about parking a call based on the parker's extn, and you made some suggestions`
`06:13.07`	Math`	`make a bash script`
`06:13.48`	`FuriousGeorge`	`one of which was to use $CALLERID`
`06:13.54`	`wunderkin`	`ComputerWarm: sed?`
`06:14.03`	`ComputerWarm`	`wunderkin sed will do it?`
`06:14.12`	`wunderkin`	`you want to change a word to something else?`
`06:14.16`	`FuriousGeorge`	`isnt that gonna always be the outside parties cid`
`06:14.21`	`FuriousGeorge`	`not the parkers`
`06:14.25`	`ComputerWarm`	`wunderkin just a word`
`06:14.29`	`FuriousGeorge`	`*party's`
`06:14.29`	`file[laptop]`	`I run away from NO dares! er wait yeah I do`
`06:14.34`	`wunderkin`	`s/test/wtest/g ?`
`06:14.38`	`ComputerWarm`	`but there is like 15 files i need to change this word in`
`06:14.59`	`ComputerWarm`	`wunderkin ok thanks i will try that`
`06:15.27`	`br00ksh1r3`	`drunkrage!`
`06:15.29`	Math`	`for a in "file1 file2 file3 file4"; do cat $a \|sed ..... > $a.2; mv $a.2 $a; done;`
`06:15.37`	`file[laptop]`	`br00ksh1r3: that's great`
`06:15.45`	`br00ksh1r3`	`hke left in a drunkrage`
`06:15.50`	`file[laptop]`	`yup`
`06:15.54`	`br00ksh1r3`	`pffffft`
`06:16.11`	`ComputerWarm`	thanks Math` i will try that
`06:16.42`	`file[laptop]`	`oh no, the redbull!`
`06:16.49`	`br00ksh1r3`	`it's in my tummy`
`06:16.59`	`file[laptop]`	`we're having fun on undernet :D`
`06:17.08`	`twisted[digium]`	`hey wunderkin, after i get the patch updated and the new revision uploaded, you wanna test it?`
`06:17.22`	`*** join/#asterisk YoMama (n=rewt@pcp02689850pcs.roylok01.mi.comcast.net)`
`06:17.22`	`twisted[digium]`	`it should be exactly the same, minus a few code optomizations`
`06:17.30`	`twisted[digium]`	`s/optomizations/optimizations`
`06:18.03`	`file[laptop]`	`twisted[digium]: I... see... you...`
`06:18.08`	`twisted[digium]`	`file[laptop] you lie.`
`06:18.22`	`twisted[digium]`	`you see Cresl1n and br00ksh1r3`
`06:18.24`	`dos000`	`asterisk is not detecting my postgresql-dev libs so no cdr_pgsql is created for me ... anyone help ...`
`06:18.27`	`file[laptop]`	`nope!`
`06:18.31`	`twisted[digium]`	`haha`
`06:18.33`	`twisted[digium]`	`NOW you do`
`06:18.35`	`twisted[digium]`	`you didnt' before`
`06:18.38`	`file[laptop]`	`I see you, and your smugness!`
`06:18.47`	`wunderkin`	`twisted: ok`
`06:18.53`	`twisted[digium]`	`i'm not smug, i'm watching my code compile`
`06:18.53`	`twisted[digium]`	`wunderkin thanks ;)`
`06:18.59`	`file[laptop]`	`sounds exciting`
`06:19.08`	`twisted[digium]`	`it's amost as exciting as watching paint dry`
`06:19.08`	`file[laptop]`	`is it... crashing?`
`06:19.12`	`twisted[digium]`	`but only slightly more.`
`06:19.13`	`twisted[digium]`	`file[laptop] no`
`06:19.19`	`dos000`	`thi is on debian sarge ... for some @!$## reason make is not detecting the libs`
`06:19.23`	`file[laptop]`	`you should make gcc segfault!!!`
`06:19.27`	`wunderkin`	`holy crapola, low in phoenix 46.. almost freezing!`
`06:19.29`	`twisted[digium]`	`file[laptop] hahaha... no`
`06:19.44`	`twisted[digium]`	`file[laptop], wanna see something scary?`
`06:19.51`	`file[laptop]`	`I'm already looking at you`
`06:19.51`	`file[laptop]`	`:P`
`06:19.56`	`Supaplex`	`haaahaa`
`06:19.58`	`file[laptop]`	`AHHHHHHHH`
`06:19.59`	`twisted[digium]`	`file[laptop], look at my hair.`
`06:19.59`	`Corydon76-home`	`twisted[digium]: you're going in drag?`
`06:20.01`	`twisted[digium]`	`:)`
`06:20.03`	`file[laptop]`	`wtf`
`06:20.06`	`twisted[digium]`	`i have somenow`
`06:20.21`	`file[laptop]`	`twisted[digium]: when did you get hair?`
`06:20.23`	`Corydon76-home`	`file[laptop]: http://drunkcoder.com/hacks/noload.c`
`06:20.27`	`twisted[digium]`	`file[laptop] when i grew it.`
`06:20.28`	`file[laptop]`	`it violates laws...`
`06:20.35`	`file[laptop]`	`you disappointed Junky!`
`06:20.36`	`supaplex[interne`	`doh`
`06:20.38`	`file[laptop]`	`'tsk 'tsk`
`06:20.39`	`hypa7ia`	`twisted in drag would be incredibly amusing`
`06:20.40`	`twisted[digium]`	`hahaha`
`06:20.44`	`twisted[digium]`	`hypa7ia do it to me`
`06:20.51`	`Corydon76-home`	`Yes, it would`
`06:20.59`	`hypa7ia`	`twisted[digium]: i don't have any dresses that would fit you :(`
`06:21.09`	`twisted[digium]`	`hypa7ia who said it had to be a dress? ;)`
`06:21.30`	`hypa7ia`	`i am disturbed and i dont even know what you mean by that o_0`
`06:21.36`	`twisted[digium]`	`rofl`
`06:21.59`	`file[laptop]`	`just, like, yeah... lol`
`06:22.09`	`file[laptop]`	`twisted[digium]: cheater`
`06:22.13`	`file[laptop]`	`twisted[digium]: :P`
`06:22.20`	`twisted[digium]`	`file[laptop]: how so?`
`06:22.20`	`Corydon76-home`	`Just the duct tape alone would be fascinating...`
`06:22.32`	`twisted[digium]`	`i still see you with my eye`
`06:22.33`	`file[laptop]`	`hypa7ia: did Russell get lucky in Anaheim?`
`06:22.39`	`twisted[digium]`	`ROFLMAO`
`06:22.46`	`hypa7ia`	`file[laptop]: there were 5 women at the con`
`06:22.47`	`hypa7ia`	`total`
`06:22.48`	`hypa7ia`	`:p`
`06:22.49`	`file[laptop]`	`(blitzrage is asking)`
`06:22.54`	`twisted[digium]`	`hahahaha`
`06:22.58`	`file[laptop]`	`:P`
`06:23.00`	`twisted[digium]`	`that's actually a good question`
`06:23.09`	`twisted[digium]`	`seeing the turn of events`
`06:23.10`	`file[laptop]`	`twisted[digium]: initiate research mode!`
`06:23.24`	`twisted[digium]`	`file[laptop] eye eye batman`
`06:23.41`	`twisted[digium]`	`ROFL`
`06:23.44`	`twisted[digium]`	`chan_zap blew up`
`06:23.44`	`file[laptop]`	`but don't skirt the question`
`06:24.17`	`file[laptop]`	`are you 1337?`
`06:24.32`	`twisted[digium]`	`file[laptop] yes.`
`06:24.42`	`file[laptop]`	`ooh`
`06:24.57`	`Corydon76-home`	`file[laptop]: look at that URL yet?`
`06:25.10`	`file[laptop]`	`Corydon76-home: yes but it just redirected to a blank image :P`
`06:25.19`	`Corydon76-home`	`hrm`
`06:25.31`	`Corydon76-home`	`try http://www.drunkcoder.com/hacks/noload.c`
`06:25.52`	`file[laptop]`	`hypa7ia: what, no answer?`
`06:25.57`	`file[laptop]`	`Corydon76-home: ...uh huh`
`06:26.32`	`file[laptop]`	`hypa7ia: good for drumkilla :)`
`06:26.40`	`Corydon76-home`	`file[laptop]: totally obscene, isn't it?`
`06:26.45`	`hypa7ia`	`oh what we're still talking about that?`
`06:27.02`	`hypa7ia`	`:p`
`06:27.10`	`file[laptop]`	`Leif Madsen says: LOL! good for you BOTH :)`
`06:27.16`	`Corydon76-home`	`Isn't that the sweat between Dolly Parton's tits?`
`06:27.42`	`file[laptop]`	`Mountain Dew sounds "kinky"`
`06:28.02`	`Corydon76-home`	`It's only kinky the first time...`
`06:28.11`	`file[laptop]`	`lol`
`06:28.20`	`hypa7ia`	`it doesn't have caffeine in it in canada :(`
`06:28.32`	`Corydon76-home`	`Sacrilege!`
`06:28.38`	`hypa7ia`	`i know!`
`06:28.41`	`Corydon76-home`	`pretty pretty blue eyes`
`06:28.44`	`hypa7ia`	`it's tragic.`
`06:28.45`	`br00ksh1r3`	`DULLREB!`
`06:28.46`	`file[laptop]`	`you do not :)`
`06:29.02`	`twisted[digium]`	`hypa7ia READBULL`
`06:29.24`	`twisted[digium]`	`s/hoffice/office`
`06:29.35`	`Corydon76-home`	`What's the point of drinking Mtn Dew if it doesn't have caffeine?`
`06:29.45`	`hypa7ia`	`Corydon76-home: there really isn't any`
`06:29.57`	`Corydon76-home`	`although I do tend to prefer LiveWire, nowadays...`
`06:30.13`	`twisted[digium]`	`livewire is good`
`06:30.18`	`twisted[digium]`	`but redbull is the bestest`
`06:30.35`	`Corydon76-home`	`twisted[digium]: only when mixed with vodka`
`06:30.41`	`twisted[digium]`	`no way`
`06:30.44`	`twisted[digium]`	`it's good all the time`
`06:30.46`	`Qwell`	`mixed...psh`
`06:30.54`	`hypa7ia`	`i'll try and bring scary vietnamese original red bull next time i go to the states`
`06:31.00`	`twisted[digium]`	`hypa7ia yes!!!!!!`
`06:31.04`	`twisted[digium]`	`hypa7ia i love you long time11!`
`06:31.05`	`file[laptop]`	`Corydon76-home: hells yah`
`06:31.09`	`file[laptop]`	`LOL!!!!!!!`
`06:31.15`	`file[laptop]`	`twisted[digium]: LOL`
`06:31.16`	`hypa7ia`	`hahaha`
`06:31.24`	`br00ksh1r3`	`YOU BEEN HERE FOOR HOUR!`
`06:31.27`	`file[laptop]`	`funny shit`
`06:31.31`	`br00ksh1r3`	`YOU GO HOME NOW!`
`06:31.34`	`Corydon76-home`	`Caffeine and alcohol... they were meant to be taken together...`
`06:31.39`	`twisted[digium]`	`brookshire ... eat me.`
`06:31.43`	`br00ksh1r3`	`:/`
`06:31.49`	`Qwell`	`at the same time perhaps...not together though`
`06:31.52`	`Corydon76-home`	`twisted[digium]: Okay... ;-)`
`06:32.00`	`Qwell`	`I don't see you pouring alcohol in your coffee...`
`06:32.21`	`Corydon76-home`	`Qwell: Bailey's in coffee? Yummmmmmmmmm`
`06:32.45`	`hypa7ia`	`http://idegen.tyrell.hu/archives/2004/07/egy_thai_ital_a.utf8.html <-- scary original red bull`
`06:33.31`	`file[laptop]`	`I see Leif passing before my eyes!`
`06:33.35`	`twisted[digium]`	`Corydon76-home no, and, try starbucks liqour`
`06:33.38`	`twisted[digium]`	`it's GOOOOOD`
`06:33.38`	`hypa7ia`	`haha`
`06:33.40`	`Corydon76-home`	`twisted[digium]: I need to bring my DVDs to show you in LV...`
`06:33.42`	`twisted[digium]`	`file[laptop], passing gass?`
`06:33.52`	`twisted[digium]`	`Corydon76-home dvd's of what?`
`06:34.03`	`Corydon76-home`	`twisted[digium]: interesting movies... ;-)`
`06:34.04`	`Qwell`	`You don't want to ask.`
`06:34.27`	`Corydon76-home`	`Yaoi, among other things...`
`06:35.06`	`file[laptop]`	`we've rethought our plan`
`06:35.14`	`file[laptop]`	`we're all to lazy/blahish to go to the after-hours club`
`06:35.15`	`file[laptop]`	`SO`
`06:35.17`	`file[laptop]`	`we're getting drunk`
`06:35.33`	`wunderkin`	`twisted: upload the updated patch to the bug and ill test it, i have the bug monitored.. im headin out :D`
`06:35.56`	`marcus2`	`i have a sip client that is set up with nat=1 in sip.conf, and has nat enabled on the peer... but it still shows up as "Nat N" in "sip show peers". what gives.`
`06:36.01`	`Corydon76-home`	`Hmmmm, file and blitzrage, together, getting drunk.... that's sounds like a recipe...`
`06:37.16`	`file[laptop]`	`in a perfect world...`
`06:37.18`	`Corydon76-home`	`Or am I too late on that? ;-)`
`06:37.42`	`Corydon76-home`	`Is that why only one of you can type at any one time? ;-)`
`06:38.24`	`file[laptop]`	`ha`
`06:38.28`	`file[laptop]`	`he's gone to get more stuff`
`06:38.47`	`Corydon76-home`	`Someone got himself a handfull... ;-)`
`06:39.29`	`file[laptop]`	`pfft`
`06:39.38`	`file[laptop]`	`'fraid not`
`06:39.41`	`file[laptop]`	`cheeky bastard :P`
`06:40.00`	`Corydon76-home`	`Oh, well... just get him a little more drunk... ;-)`
`06:40.45`	`file[laptop]`	`JunK-Y: meh`
`06:40.50`	`Corydon76-home`	`Anyway, I'm going to bed...`
`06:40.50`	`file[laptop]`	`JunK-Y: I'm not feeling too hot`
`06:40.54`	`Corydon76-home`	`Later`
`06:41.00`	`JunK-Y`	`see ya Corydon76-home`
`06:41.08`	`Corydon76-home`	`file[laptop]: drink some water...`
`06:41.18`	`JunK-Y`	`Corydon76-home: he actually already drunk meaghers.`
`06:41.18`	`Corydon76-home`	`and take an antacid...`
`06:41.22`	`file[laptop]`	`JunK-Y: if you guys go out I'll probably stay here and make sure I didn't miss anything crucial today for work`
`06:41.40`	`JunK-Y`	`go take care of bb!`
`06:41.45`	`file[laptop]`	`LOL`
`06:42.37`	`file[laptop]`	`ugh`
`06:42.40`	`file[laptop]`	`he's trying to convince me`
`06:42.56`	`hypa7ia`	`PEER PRESSURE`
`06:42.56`	`*** join/#asterisk YoMama (n=rewt@pcp02689850pcs.roylok01.mi.comcast.net)`
`06:43.01`	`file[laptop]`	`exactly`
`06:43.05`	`JunK-Y`	`who's he????`
`06:43.05`	`JunK-Y`	`:P`
`06:43.07`	`Corydon76-home`	`The ultimate seduction`
`06:43.08`	`file[laptop]`	`:p`
`06:43.13`	`JunK-Y`	`come meet old chicks!`
`06:43.14`	`YoMama`	`ok...i'll have to say that installing a new kernel is pure hell`
`06:43.17`	`JunK-Y`	`that will be funny!`
`06:43.37`	`JunK-Y`	`hey bliz is eating all my lays!`
`06:43.37`	`YoMama`	`speaking of meeting chicks...asterisk would make a good platform for running a phone sex service`
`06:43.42`	`JunK-Y`	`and drinking all my vodka!`
`06:43.51`	`hypa7ia`	`YoMama: there was someone at astricon who does that with it`
`06:43.55`	`hypa7ia`	`no jokes`
`06:44.02`	`JunK-Y`	`YoMama: u gonna make the voice at the end?`
`06:44.10`	`file[laptop]`	`JunK-Y is into the phone sex service with Asterisk`
`06:44.13`	`file[laptop]`	`he calls all day and all night`
`06:44.18`	`file[laptop]`	`for "testing"`
`06:44.28`	`hypa7ia`	`writing scripts for allison to say :p`
`06:44.44`	`file[laptop]`	`hypa7ia: she'll say anything :P well, almost`
`06:44.46`	`JunK-Y`	`and gone cruising some chicks in the 50s`
`06:44.47`	`JunK-Y`	`:P`
`06:45.34`	`YoMama`	`junk-y: actually..i know a girl who does that for a living..she can do all the voices`
`06:45.47`	`hypa7ia`	`JunK-Y: cougars!`
`06:46.20`	`twisted[digium]`	`oh well`
`06:46.22`	`twisted[digium]`	`wunderkin left`
`06:46.26`	`twisted[digium]`	`i just updated the patch`
`06:46.30`	`marcus2`	`man, this is f'in annoying`
`06:46.47`	`marcus2`	`i have two different * boxes, each running 1.0.9`
`06:46.58`	`marcus2`	`my sip client works behind nat wiht one of them, but not the other`
`06:47.55`	`twisted[digium]`	`i want to run a phone sex op with my asterisk box.`
`06:48.03`	`YoMama`	`twisted: do it`
`06:48.23`	`denon`	`twisted: oh yeah .. THAT hasn't been done..`
`06:48.57`	`JunK-Y`	`YoMama: ur mom>?`
`06:49.27`	`YoMama`	`junk-y: she retired a few years ago`
`06:50.05`	`marcus2`	`oh, hm`
`06:50.20`	`JunK-Y`	`who cares? we all love ur mom!@`
`06:53.27`	`file[laptop]`	`eep`
`06:54.02`	`*** join/#asterisk bassig (n=track_ui@75.179.uio.satnet.net)`
`06:54.59`	`twisted[digium]`	`file[laptop]`
`06:55.02`	`twisted[digium]`	`FANNYPACK!`
`06:56.55`	`FuriousGeorge`	`lets say one twisted pair in a cat5 is for a phone (doorphone, actually), and another goes to the a doorstrike with 10VAC to unlock the door. thats no problem, right?`
`06:57.09`	`br00ksh1r3`	`hey mommy`
`06:57.37`	`twisted[digium]`	`bah`
`06:59.59`	`ComputerWarm`	`anyone know who the creator of ARESKICC is ?`
`07:00.28`	`Qwell`	`I bet google does..`
`07:00.49`	`Qwell`	`FuriousGeorge: it could be`
`07:00.59`	`ComputerWarm`	`oh it does... i was just hoping the person was here`
`07:01.14`	`marcus2`	`hmm, figured it out`
`07:01.22`	`marcus2`	`i've gotta say, i'm a little underwhelmed with asterisk@home`
`07:01.36`	`Qwell`	`Who was the guy in here that worked for Sun?`
`07:01.59`	`coppice`	`Mr Moon? :-)`
`07:02.01`	`file[laptop]`	`kckgkdfkgfd`
`07:02.11`	`file[laptop]`	`that was Junky, in a drunken state`
`07:02.45`	`Qwell`	`ahh, TommyTheKid`
`07:04.11`	`file[laptop]`	`eep`
`07:04.18`	`file[laptop]`	`they left to go to a really cheap bar that closes in an hour`
`07:05.17`	`Qwell`	`really cheap bar...is there any other kind?`
`07:05.26`	`file[laptop]`	`apparently`
`07:05.26`	`marcus2`	`hell yes`
`07:05.31`	`*** join/#asterisk grimse (n=grimse@p5481C820.dip.t-dialin.net)`
`07:06.06`	`file[laptop]`	`I just wanna sleep, sadly enough`
`07:11.20`	`*** part/#asterisk Cresl1n (n=matt@gateway.digium.com)`
`07:14.05`	`*** join/#asterisk SplasPood (n=sp@paravolve.net)`
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`07:20.51`	`jebba`	hypa7ia, Math` wooohooo. New kernel + ztummy + vserver + meetme == working :) thanks
`07:23.33`	`hypa7ia`	`yay!`
`07:26.14`	`*** join/#asterisk ST-3 (i=ser@dipsy.tch.org)`
`07:28.48`	`jebba`	`hypa7ia, i do have some issues though. Sometimes when i call in, audio doesn't play. I restart the server and it works. Or it'll work if I call in with a softphone, but not a landline or vice-versa. i don't get that...`
`07:30.11`	`hypa7ia`	`the calling-in-no-audio problem could relate to your connection... are you natted at either end?`
`07:30.41`	`hypa7ia`	`you kinda need to be more specific about the circumstances under which it's not working`
`07:32.34`	`jebba`	`hypa7ia, ya I understand re: details... It's just such a massive dump. The server itself is nat'd. But it /is/ generally working.`
`07:33.15`	`jebba`	`For instance, I just got meetme going. So I change: exten => s,2,MeetMe(1)`
`07:33.15`	`jebba`	`<PROTECTED>`
`07:34.22`	`YoMama`	`anyone here know what wcusb does?`
`07:47.45`	`*** join/#asterisk riksta (n=rick@62.6.163.90)`
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`07:54.04`	`Pegger`	`any one here cisco phone?`
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`08:03.19`	`digime`	`what is this whole "flame war" on asterisk biz`
`08:04.23`	`YoMama`	`if i have a username/password for a sip provider..how do i set up asterisk to use it?`
`08:04.41`	`YoMama`	`so i can make outbound calls`
`08:04.41`	`mog_home`	`what flamewar?`
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`08:21.43`	`power1`	`hey all, when using /usr/src/zaptel/ztmonitor 1 -vv and there are no incoming or outgoing calls in progress i see a value of around "130" for the RX, is this normal or should the RX=0 just like the TX does?`
`08:25.13`	`konfuzed`	`hhhmmmm what distro to try out for asterisk`
`08:25.38`	`konfuzed`	`what distro is asterisk mostly developed on`
`08:25.44`	`konfuzed`	`i understand some use suse`
`08:25.47`	`konfuzed`	`and some use debian`
`08:27.25`	`mog_home`	`redhat is what mark actually develops on but asterisk is nutral`
`08:27.54`	`konfuzed`	`i thought it was rather nuetral`
`08:28.28`	`power1`	`any1 shed some light on my above question?`
`08:28.28`	`konfuzed`	`hhmm im considerin kubuntu`
`08:28.34`	`konfuzed`	`cause uh debian`
`08:28.52`	`konfuzed`	`and want to have kubuntu on hand`
`08:28.54`	`konfuzed`	`hm`
`08:28.56`	`konfuzed`	`i dunno`
`08:29.08`	`konfuzed`	`I was thinking to run it with no video card`
`08:29.44`	`konfuzed`	`put jabber on it too`
`08:30.53`	`mog_home`	`mmm jabber`
`08:31.10`	`YoMama`	`kofuzed: do u use a sip provider?`
`08:31.13`	`YoMama`	`does anyone?`
`08:32.15`	`YoMama`	`mog_home: so u use nufone?`
`08:32.54`	`YoMama`	`their offices are located near me actually`
`08:33.33`	`mog_home`	`i dont use any one`
`08:33.38`	`mog_home`	`but i hear good things`
`08:46.10`	`*** join/#asterisk r0d3nt (i=nobody@wsip-24-234-241-145.lv.lv.cox.net)`
`08:47.19`	`pooh_`	`Any RealTime user around ?`
`08:48.33`	`YoMama`	`son of a beeeyotch...anyone using a sip outbound provider?`
`08:49.03`	`infinity1`	`any idea why i hear hold music when i dial and not the phone ringing?`
`08:49.06`	`ComputerWarm`	`YoMama i am not at the moment but i was`
`08:49.40`	`YoMama`	`computerwarm: cool...so..in sip.conf..i set up a peer...right?`
`08:50.06`	`ComputerWarm`	`yes`
`08:50.38`	`YoMama`	`secret is the pw, usernamd and fromuser are the username, host is the host of the provider...and port is the port they do SIP signaling on?`
`08:51.17`	`ComputerWarm`	yes normally the port doesn`t get added it normaling users the standard port
`08:51.26`	`ComputerWarm`	`normaly even`
`08:51.28`	`konfuzed`	`is asus motherboard via chipset on board sound going to be alsa compatible??`
`08:51.51`	`ComputerWarm`	konfuzed sorry i am not sure ask in your disro`s channel?
`08:51.55`	`YoMama`	`and then in extensions.conf...i do exten => _91NXXNXXXXX,1,Dial(SIP/${EXTEN:1}@provider.host)`
`08:52.20`	`ComputerWarm`	`I would do it like this exten => _91NXXNXXXXX,1,Dial(SIP/${EXTEN:1}@provider.host,30,r)`
`08:52.58`	`YoMama`	`hmmm`
`08:53.24`	`ComputerWarm`	`with some providers i have had to set 90 all depends on the ms between you and them`
`08:54.07`	`YoMama`	`hmm...well, i'm trying to use a provider that doesn't support asterisk :)`
`08:54.15`	`YoMama`	`but i know it should work becuase i got x-lite working with it`
`08:54.18`	`ComputerWarm`	`not a big deal`
`08:54.34`	`ComputerWarm`	`i was doing it all the time.`
`08:55.27`	`*** join/#asterisk Gothix (n=Gothix@host-252-96-111-24.midco.net)`
`08:56.18`	`ComputerWarm`	`YoMama try this exten => _91NXXNXXXXX,1,Dial(SIP/username:password@provider.host/${EXTEN:1},30,r)`
`08:57.21`	`YoMama`	`what if they don't use 5060 for signaling?`
`08:58.08`	`ComputerWarm`	`most do you might be able to do exten => _91NXXNXXXXX,1,Dial(SIP/username:password@provider.host:port/${EXTEN:1},30,r) but i am not totally sure`
`08:58.42`	`ComputerWarm`	`infinity1 is your phone registering in?`
`08:58.57`	`ComputerWarm`	`infinity1 i mean the number you are calling`
`08:59.19`	`YoMama`	`computerwarm: lemme try that..thanx`
`08:59.32`	`ComputerWarm`	`YoMama np let me know would ya...`
`08:59.45`	`infinity1`	`ComputerWarm: hm. i'm calling an pstn line`
`09:00.02`	`infinity1`	`ComputerWarm: i can make the call, but i don't get a ring. just hold music.`
`09:00.22`	`ComputerWarm`	`ok calling from a device attached to asterisk out to a pstn. or in from the pstn?`
`09:00.42`	`ComputerWarm`	`infinity1 show me your exten line would ya`
`09:00.55`	`infinity1`	`sip phone (polycom) -> asterisk -> voip provider (iax) -> pstn`
`09:01.29`	`ComputerWarm`	`and when you have music disabled does the other end ring?`
`09:02.01`	`infinity1`	`<PROTECTED>`
`09:02.24`	`infinity1`	`music diabled? hmm ..no even sure how to do that`
`09:02.47`	`ComputerWarm`	`infinity1 show me the exten from the extension.conf please`
`09:03.20`	`infinity1`	`hmmm ..its some complex macro mess. let me find it.`
`09:03.34`	`ComputerWarm`	`all i need to see is the dial line`
`09:04.11`	`infinity1`	`<PROTECTED>`
`09:05.05`	`ComputerWarm`	`<PROTECTED>`
`09:05.22`	*** join/#asterisk wolfson` (n=ggggg@208.25.254.120)
`09:05.23`	`infinity1`	`add a timeout`
`09:05.24`	`infinity1`	`?`
`09:05.41`	`ComputerWarm`	`ya well iirc default Asterisk will auto time out.`
`09:05.51`	`ComputerWarm`	`its a issue i had with the older version of asterisk`
`09:06.19`	`infinity1`	`nope.`
`09:06.27`	`infinity1`	`added the 30. same result.`
`09:06.42`	`infinity1`	`i'm running beta`
`09:06.43`	`infinity1`	`2`
`09:06.51`	`ComputerWarm`	`do this Dial(${IAXCO1}/1${areacode}${number},30,r)`
`09:07.09`	`ComputerWarm`	`have you had any calls passed with this provider?`
`09:07.35`	`infinity1`	`heh. nope.`
`09:08.03`	`ComputerWarm`	`are you getting any error in the cli?`
`09:08.05`	`infinity1`	`hmm ..well, when beta2 came out, i installed it on a server at the datacenter and moved a phone to it`
`09:08.29`	`ComputerWarm`	`ok so this your own pstn?`
`09:08.32`	`infinity1`	`the phone was working and ringing with beta1 on the local server. doeasn't ring on the new server`
`09:08.57`	`infinity1`	`its all voip until the provider cuts it to pstn. the datacenter doesn't have pstn lines.`
`09:09.24`	`ComputerWarm`	`oh ok now i am getting the idea. are you using iax or iax2?`
`09:09.25`	`infinity1`	`<PROTECTED>`
`09:09.32`	`YoMama`	`ah ha! got it working!`
`09:09.41`	`ComputerWarm`	`YoMama explain :-)`
`09:09.46`	`infinity1`	`ComputerWarm: astererisk -> voipjet = iax2`
`09:10.06`	`YoMama`	`computerwarm: the port needs to be in the dial statement`
`09:10.14`	`infinity1`	`ComputerWarm: actually. i'm not sure if its iax or iax2 ..heh`
`09:10.42`	`YoMama`	`computerwarm: what's the cheapest unlimited outbound per month you've found?`
`09:10.57`	`ComputerWarm`	`YoMama to where?`
`09:11.11`	`YoMama`	`computerwarm: us/canada`
`09:11.19`	`ComputerWarm`	infinity1 hrmz sorry i haven`t used beta 2 yet... so i am not sure if it is a issue with the provider or yourself
`09:11.23`	`andyd`	`is there anyone here using FWD that would not mind me placing a test call to them ?`
`09:11.53`	`ComputerWarm`	`YoMama keep in mind i deal with wholesale minutes... the cheapest i have seen for usa is .0067 and canada 0.0035`
`09:12.12`	`YoMama`	`computerwarm: what about places that do unlimited?`
`09:12.27`	`infinity1`	`ComputerWarm: i think it is the phone`
`09:12.31`	`ComputerWarm`	hrmz don`t normally deal with that
`09:12.33`	`YoMama`	`computerwarm: to end users`
`09:12.44`	`ComputerWarm`	`infinity1 do you have a sound card setup on that systen`
`09:12.45`	`ComputerWarm`	`system`
`09:12.51`	`infinity1`	`ComputerWarm: no.`
`09:13.03`	`YoMama`	`0.67 cents/minute?`
`09:13.06`	`ComputerWarm`	YoMama i personally don`t deal with end users... but 15 a month is one i seen
`09:13.09`	`YoMama`	`sheesh`
`09:13.16`	`infinity1`	`ComputerWarm: the phone use to connect to a local server and now its going lan -> router/nat -> internet -> asterisk`
`09:14.34`	`ComputerWarm`	`is asterisk behind a nat?`
`09:15.26`	`infinity1`	`no`
`09:15.29`	`infinity1`	`just the phone`
`09:15.53`	`ComputerWarm`	`ok in asterisk... the sip config did you set under the user nat=yes?`
`09:15.57`	`infinity1`	`when i dial with eyebeam the softphone client rings`
`09:15.58`	`infinity1`	`heh`
`09:16.13`	`infinity1`	`yes. nat=yes`
`09:16.37`	`konfuzed`	`ttooooooo much debian stuff`
`09:17.02`	`infinity1`	`konfuzed: debian rulez`
`09:17.24`	`ComputerWarm`	`debian = evil`
`09:17.43`	`infinity1`	`how is debian evil?`
`09:18.00`	`ComputerWarm`	`lol i just dislike it... but thats me`
`09:18.01`	`denon`	`debian's just fine.`
`09:18.18`	`denon`	`there are hundreds of * boxes running on debian`
`09:18.23`	`infinity1`	`i love debian. i started using it about 6 years ago and haven't use anything else since`
`09:19.19`	`ComputerWarm`	infinity1 i really can`t think of any reason it wouldn`t be working. can you get the tech at voipject to do a trace on you?
`09:19.32`	`infinity1`	`i'm using the beta2 debian packages if that helps solve my ringing problem :)`
`09:20.03`	`infinity1`	`ComputerWarm: trace? what kind of trace? sip debg or tcpdump`
`09:20.09`	`ComputerWarm`	infinity1 like i said before i knew the operating system lol i haven`t used beta yet
`09:20.17`	`ComputerWarm`	`sip debug`
`09:21.00`	`infinity1`	`er ..the connection from * to voipjet is iax`
`09:21.04`	`infinity1`	`iax debug? heh`
`09:21.27`	`ComputerWarm`	`no iax2 debug :-p`
`09:23.05`	`infinity1`	`it seems like i would have to use the dial application with an "m" parameter to get the effect i'm experiencing.`
`09:24.30`	`ComputerWarm`	`so its working now?`
`09:24.33`	`infinity1`	`no`
`09:24.37`	`infinity1`	`how fucking annoying.`
`09:24.47`	`ComputerWarm`	`oh lol their goes hoping lol`
`09:25.04`	`ComputerWarm`	`sorry I really am not sure maybe hang out till someone with more knowledge comes in`
`09:25.27`	`infinity1`	`why would it work properly with an softphone client and not with a hardphone?`
`09:25.47`	`ComputerWarm`	`it should work the same.. i would think`
`09:26.04`	`ComputerWarm`	infinity1 why couldn`t you have a easy problem like YoMama lol
`09:27.24`	`ComputerWarm`	`infinity1 i have to run for now but if you are still having the problem when i return i will see whatelse i can think of`
`09:27.49`	`infinity1`	`heh`
`09:27.52`	`infinity1`	`thanks for trying!`
`09:28.06`	`ComputerWarm`	anytime.. sorry i wasn`t any help.... Gone
`09:28.06`	`infinity1`	`it'll probably come to us in our dreams or while laying in bed`
`09:28.49`	`FuriousGeorge`	`where can i get one of those phones with the extra dtmf buttons? and could i use it w/ asterisk`
`09:28.52`	`FuriousGeorge`	`?`
`09:29.15`	`infinity1`	`whats a dtmf button`
`09:29.22`	`FuriousGeorge`	`~dtmf`
`09:29.23`	`jbot`	`DTMF: Dual Tone Multi-Frequency. The technical term describing Touch Tone dialing. Basically the combining of two tones, one low frequency and one high frequency.`
`09:29.45`	`FuriousGeorge`	`i.e the noise u hear when you hit 0-9 * or #`
`09:30.05`	`FuriousGeorge`	`but there are 3 or 4 more`
`09:30.12`	`FuriousGeorge`	`a b c d i think`
`09:30.17`	`infinity1`	`FuriousGeorge: you want to configure it with a button on the phone istead of in the phone setup/config?`
`09:30.57`	`FuriousGeorge`	`im wondering if those extra buttons can currently be taken advantage of in the dialplan`
`09:31.32`	`FuriousGeorge`	`can make them an x-fer button`
`09:31.36`	`FuriousGeorge`	`park button`
`09:31.52`	`FuriousGeorge`	`voicemail button`
`09:31.57`	`FuriousGeorge`	`dnd toggle`
`09:32.00`	`infinity1`	`sip phone or pots phone?`
`09:32.08`	`FuriousGeorge`	`pots`
`09:32.11`	`FuriousGeorge`	`military uses em`
`09:32.24`	`FuriousGeorge`	`ill search military phone`
`09:32.41`	`infinity1`	`hm. can't you configure * or recognize speed dial type actions to do all those functions?`
`09:33.22`	`FuriousGeorge`	`i could`
`09:33.30`	`FuriousGeorge`	`but it would be cool to have those buttons`
`09:33.31`	`infinity1`	`but yer saying the phone has a park button already?`
`09:33.40`	`FuriousGeorge`	`it doesnt have a park button`
`09:33.41`	`YoMama`	`anyone ever use a S100U?`
`09:34.02`	`FuriousGeorge`	`but i can make it have one`
`09:34.10`	`infinity1`	`i think asterisk has a default set of actions for pots phones. i know # is xfer, but don't know the others.`
`09:34.22`	`FuriousGeorge`	`*66`
`09:34.26`	`FuriousGeorge`	`*69`
`09:35.06`	`FuriousGeorge`	`i want to take a lable and make the A button xfer, on the phone and in my dialplan`
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`09:35.57`	`YoMama`	`mog: ever use a S100U?`
`09:36.08`	`infinity1`	`FuriousGeorge: does the phone's A button have progammable dtmf tones?`
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`09:41.16`	`FuriousGeorge`	`infinity1: u misunderstand. these buttons and these phones and these dtmf tones are standard and exist`
`09:41.26`	`FuriousGeorge`	`mostly used by military`
`09:41.40`	`FuriousGeorge`	`there already is a dtmf tone that corresponds to A`
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`09:44.34`	`FuriousGeorge`	`denon: you know where one can get phones with the extra dtmf buttons`
`09:48.13`	`Gothix`	`I want to know about web interface support for config's. kind of like a v-box from netsapiens?`
`09:48.32`	`Gothix`	`if i could get help with that, i would be very greatful`
`09:48.48`	`pooh_`	`FuriousGeorge: look at the Snom 360 phones (www.snom.de) with the extended keypads`
`09:48.48`	`FuriousGeorge`	`~a@h`
`09:49.43`	`pooh_`	`FuriousGeorge: http://www.snom.com/keypad_snom_360.html`
`09:50.20`	`FuriousGeorge`	`pooh_: the point is for it to be cheap like a pots phone and expensive like an ip phone :)`
`09:50.54`	`pooh_`	`FuriousGeorge: you wish ;-)`
`09:51.13`	`Gothix`	`i guess, i want to know if there is any kind of support for a web interface ( i.e. php & mysql ) in Asterisk..`
`09:51.20`	`pooh_`	`FuriousGeorge: that should be 'free programmable keys' I guess`
`09:51.34`	`pooh_`	`Gothix: mysql is supported`
`09:52.08`	`FuriousGeorge`	`pooh_: i dont even know that * can understand the dtmf, tbh`
`09:52.17`	`Gothix`	`nice, thanks pooh`
`09:52.17`	`FuriousGeorge`	`but it /is/ a standard that exits`
`09:52.52`	`FuriousGeorge`	`exists`
`09:52.56`	`FuriousGeorge`	`*`
`09:54.03`	`FuriousGeorge`	`but those phones are cool`
`09:54.17`	`FuriousGeorge`	`i dont see how 12 extra buttons costs 145, but cool`
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`09:56.04`	`FuriousGeorge`	`http://margo.student.utwente.nl/el/phone/dtmf.htm`
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`09:57.14`	`hmodes`	`braaah`
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`10:21.17`	`zoa`	`hey ho`
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`10:22.21`	`zoa`	`2nd hello`
`10:22.57`	`[[zoa]]`	`:)`
`10:23.40`	`pooh_`	`I there a equivalant of lynx in the default DOS shell?`
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`10:28.20`	`optimas`	`hi has anyone got ast capi working on centos 4.2`
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`10:50.22`	`Gourou_fou`	`hello`
`10:51.03`	`pooh_`	`optimas: yes`
`10:52.59`	`Gourou_fou`	`y'a du monde qui parle francais ici ?`
`10:53.08`	`Gourou_fou`	`:)`
`10:54.04`	`[[zoa]]`	`oui`
`10:57.32`	`Gourou_fou`	`salut zoa :)`
`10:59.53`	`pooh_`	`whaaaaaaaaaa fsck^*%)( realtime load does not exists at all!!!!`
`11:00.22`	`pooh_`	`they speak of it in the help, but looking at the source the whole routine is NOT included!!! man......`
`11:03.51`	`pooh_`	`at least not as an app`
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`11:05.03`	`Gourou_fou`	`how can i verify that my asterisk is really registered on FWD on startup ?`
`11:05.09`	`Gourou_fou`	`(sorry for my english, i'm french...)`
`11:05.35`	`Gourou_fou`	`when the registered failled, i've a message in console...`
`11:05.43`	`pooh_`	`RealTime has 'Realtime update', 'Realtime Load' and 'RealTime' but as an app, only 'RealTimeUpdate' and RealTime' exist, NOOOOOOO 'RealTimeLoad' :-(`
`11:06.06`	`pooh_`	`Gourou_fou: iax2 show registry`
`11:06.18`	`Gourou_fou`	`ooh!`
`11:06.21`	`Gourou_fou`	`thanks !! :)`
`11:06.24`	`pooh_`	`np`
`11:06.30`	`pooh_`	`now help meeeeeeeeeee :-)`
`11:06.37`	`Gourou_fou`	`*CLI> iax2 show registry`
`11:06.37`	`Gourou_fou`	`Host Username Perceived Refresh State`
`11:06.44`	`Gourou_fou`	`i'm not registered :)`
`11:06.55`	`pooh_`	`seems so`
`11:07.11`	`pooh_`	`you DID register as an IAX2 peer? otherwise try sip show registry`
`11:09.42`	`Gourou_fou`	`nothing else with sip`
`11:10.17`	`pooh_`	`then you are not registered`
`11:10.22`	`Gourou_fou`	`erffff , i've commented the conf in iax.conf`
`11:10.24`	`Gourou_fou`	`..........`
`11:10.31`	`pooh_`	`errrrrrrrrrr`
`11:10.35`	`Gourou_fou`	`; ...`
`11:10.45`	`pooh_`	`fou est fou`
`11:10.49`	`Gourou_fou`	`:)`
`11:11.09`	`Gourou_fou`	`*CLI> -- Registered IAX2 to '192.246.69.187', who sees us as 86.192.132.196:11906`
`11:11.12`	`Gourou_fou`	`yeaah`
`11:11.39`	`pooh_`	`:-)`
`11:13.37`	`Gourou_fou`	`the call test of FWD is ok`
`11:13.41`	`Gourou_fou`	`youpiii`
`11:14.23`	`Gourou_fou`	`(the joy of beginner)`
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`11:15.16`	`saftsack`	`hi`
`11:15.20`	`Gourou_fou`	`hi`
`11:15.56`	`saftsack`	`i wanna have a telephone that calls a number which is clicked in my browser form me`
`11:15.58`	`saftsack`	`is that possible?`
`11:16.24`	`pooh_`	`saftsack: again please ?`
`11:17.12`	`saftsack`	`i have a pc and i have a telephone beside my pc. now i want to have a call.`
`11:17.26`	`saftsack`	`is there a function, that i click a number on my browser`
`11:17.51`	`Gourou_fou`	`all is possible :)`
`11:18.05`	`Gourou_fou`	`(but i can't say how to make this ...)`
`11:18.09`	`Gourou_fou`	`(i'm begin)`
`11:18.09`	`saftsack`	`and i can then take-off the hearer and telephone?`
`11:18.23`	`saftsack`	`:)`
`11:18.45`	`saftsack`	`pooh_, did you get me?`
`11:20.47`	`pooh_`	`http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-pagehistory.php?page=Asterisk+click+to+call&diff=2`
`11:21.13`	`saftsack`	`thank you :)`
`11:21.49`	`saftsack`	`but i need a special telephone to use this script or?`
`11:21.54`	`Gourou_fou`	`no`
`11:22.14`	`Gourou_fou`	`what is yout telephone ?`
`11:22.16`	`Gourou_fou`	`r`
`11:22.24`	`saftsack`	`isdn telephone`
`11:23.15`	`Gourou_fou`	`mmmh`
`11:23.39`	`saftsack`	`i havent asterisk yet. i have a isdn tk here in my house and now i wanna begin with asterisk`
`11:24.21`	`syle`	`depends how far you want to go with it`
`11:25.08`	`Gourou_fou`	`what is the catch type of isdn phone ?`
`11:25.18`	`Gourou_fou`	`rj11 ?`
`11:25.26`	`saftsack`	`i want to telephone from any isdn or analog telephone here over isdn or over voip depends on the number i called. furthermore i want to use click to call on my computer`
`11:26.23`	`saftsack`	`Gourou_fou, dont know. but on the telephone is written euroset. the plug looks like a thin rj45 one`
`11:26.24`	`*** join/#asterisk bartpbx (n=bartpbx@p54B03AF7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)`
`11:26.33`	`bartpbx`	`hello,`
`11:26.33`	`Gourou_fou`	`no problem for that, but the question is: it is possible to connect an isdn phone directly on asterisk server ?`
`11:26.40`	`Gourou_fou`	`ok`
`11:26.52`	`saftsack`	`Gourou_fou, there are cards arent there?`
`11:27.04`	`Gourou_fou`	`but an isdn phone is not an ip phone`
`11:27.13`	`bartpbx`	`Is there a way to handle a failure of a remote agi script?`
`11:27.15`	`Gourou_fou`	`there is fxo cards for analogics phones`
`11:27.35`	`Gourou_fou`	`an the networks for ip phone`
`11:27.42`	`saftsack`	`Gourou_fou, http://www.junghanns.net/en/singleE1_produkt.html`
`11:27.53`	`Gourou_fou`	`but for isdn i don't know`
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`11:28.55`	`saftsack`	`Gourou_fou, so if i have a fxo card and an analog telephone behind, can i to a click to call?`
`11:29.04`	`Gourou_fou`	`yes but it is for isdn LINE, not isdn phone`
`11:29.22`	`Gourou_fou`	`fxo != fxs, it's the same thing`
`11:29.25`	`bartpbx`	`I use DeadAGI to lunch a remote script DeadAG(agi://server) I would like to add a fallback if this server is not availible`
`11:29.37`	`Gourou_fou`	`yes !`
`11:29.46`	`bartpbx`	`but +101 is not working and also the next priority is not uses`
`11:29.49`	`[[zoa]]`	`Gourou_fou: it is possible`
`11:29.53`	`[[zoa]]`	`you need an NT card`
`11:30.14`	`[[zoa]]`	`http://www.asteriskguru.com/tutorials/bri.html`
`11:30.15`	`saftsack`	`Gourou_fou, yes i know that it is an isdn line. but i can connect many isdn phones on this isdn line or a tk?`
`11:30.17`	`Gourou_fou`	`but the price of fxo card + analog phone ... buy directly an ip phone :)`
`11:30.45`	`Gourou_fou`	`thanks zoa, i don't know that :)`
`11:30.50`	`Gourou_fou`	`et mais tu parle francais toi ?`
`11:30.51`	`Gourou_fou`	`lol`
`11:30.52`	`saftsack`	`:) do you know some good voip telephones?`
`11:31.00`	`saftsack`	`no im german`
`11:31.07`	`Gourou_fou`	`(for zoa)`
`11:31.11`	`saftsack`	`ok`
`11:31.15`	`[[zoa]]`	`moi je parle tout`
`11:31.20`	`bartpbx`	`how can i handle the -1 returned by DeadAGI`
`11:31.26`	`Gourou_fou`	`multi-linguiste :)`
`11:31.52`	`bartpbx`	`hallo Saftsack`
`11:32.05`	`bartpbx`	`take SNOM phnes`
`11:32.08`	`Gourou_fou`	`j'arrive � lire l'anglais technique mais c'est tout, l'anglais "courant" j'ai du mal, encore que j'essaye de faire des phrases, mais je manque cruellement de vocabulaire :/`
`11:32.26`	`saftsack`	`ok if i have a voip telephone i can telephone i can call into a normal telephone net to if i have an isdn card?`
`11:32.33`	`saftsack`	`hi bartpbx what is a snom phone?`
`11:33.05`	`syle`	`whats so good about isdn`
`11:33.19`	`Gourou_fou`	`with an ip phone, you can call into analog line, isdn line (with E1 card), voip line (with internet)`
`11:33.27`	`saftsack`	`that i can call normal telephone numbers`
`11:33.28`	`Gourou_fou`	`analog line (with fxs card)`
`11:33.34`	`Gourou_fou`	`yes`
`11:33.47`	`saftsack`	`thats important for me ;)`
`11:33.51`	`Gourou_fou`	`for all :)`
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`11:34.04`	`syle`	`isdn or PRI line?`
`11:34.14`	`saftsack`	`what is pri?`
`11:34.25`	`Gourou_fou`	`pri and bri are isdn line`
`11:34.29`	`puzzled`	`hi`
`11:34.29`	`saftsack`	`ive took a look on this site`
`11:34.41`	`bartpbx`	`anyone can help me with my -1 Problem?`
`11:34.47`	`pooh_`	`saftsack: takes about a few monts ;-)`
`11:34.51`	`pooh_`	`months`
`11:34.52`	`Gourou_fou`	`but bri is just two line, pri is more (16 lines possible ?)`
`11:35.06`	`pooh_`	`jbot: ~bri`
`11:35.12`	`pooh_`	`~bri`
`11:35.13`	`jbot`	`rumour has it, bri is the Basic Rate Interface , an ISDN access interface type composed of two B-channels each at 64 kbps and one D-channel at 16kbps (2B+D).`
`11:35.17`	`Gourou_fou`	`(say me if i wrong)`
`11:35.19`	`pooh_`	`~pri`
`11:35.21`	`jbot`	`pri is probably Primary Rate Interface, often called T1 or E1 (European Standard). E1 offers 30 ISDN B-Channels a 64kBit/s + 1 D-Channel with 64kBit/s. The T1 has 23 B-Channels + 1 D-Channel. Cards to use with *: T100P, E100P, TE410P, etc.`
`11:35.21`	`syle`	`hmmm i;m trying to think how long i been doing this now, and i still wouldnt call myself an expert yet`
`11:35.34`	`syle`	`5 months maybe?`
`11:36.37`	`syle`	`i think when you hit the 1 year mark you can call yourself an expert`
`11:37.42`	`syle`	`or a c programmer after 6 months :)`
`11:38.19`	`bartpbx`	`hello, can noone help me or point me to the solution.`
`11:39.23`	`syle`	`you europeans have thanksgiving?`
`11:39.48`	`pooh_`	`bartpbx: tried catching ${result} in the dialplan after executing the AGI ?`
`11:39.54`	`pooh_`	`syle: nope`
`11:40.07`	`pooh_`	`syle: we think it is a silly part`
`11:40.09`	`pooh_`	`party`
`11:40.43`	`syle`	`i think any holiday is a good day :)`
`11:41.07`	`syle`	`you have rememberance day?`
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`11:41.59`	`pooh_`	`syle: sorta, may 4th, remembering casualties of world warII but this differs per EU country since WWII did not end at the same time all over the place`
`11:42.35`	`Gourou_fou`	`i reboot, ++`
`11:42.36`	`bartpbx`	`pooh_, yes, I've tried that. But th execution semed to terminated directly`
`11:42.53`	`pooh_`	`bartpbx: NoOp(${result})`
`11:43.07`	`syle`	`is christmas at least dec 25th?`
`11:43.12`	`bartpbx`	`ja`
`11:43.16`	`bartpbx`	`soory, yes`
`11:43.18`	`pooh_`	`syle: christmas???`
`11:43.19`	`bartpbx`	`did that`
`11:43.31`	`pooh_`	`bartpbx: result on the CLI?`
`11:43.41`	`syle`	`santa clause`
`11:43.51`	`pooh_`	`syle: we have 2 christmasdays 25th AND 26th :-) :-)`
`11:44.05`	`pooh_`	`syle: sanat claus on december 5th :-)`
`11:44.19`	`syle`	`whats special about the 5th?`
`11:44.24`	`pooh_`	`syle: so that's 2 more days off :-)`
`11:44.33`	`syle`	`damn`
`11:44.37`	`bartpbx`	`<PROTECTED>`
`11:44.37`	`bartpbx`	`Nov 12 12:44:12 WARNING[27294]: res_agi.c:200 launch_netscript: Connect to 'agi://192.168.0.10/dialout' failed: Connection refused`
`11:44.37`	`bartpbx`	`<PROTECTED>`
`11:44.38`	`syle`	`thats pretty kewl`
`11:44.40`	`bartpbx`	`nothing`
`11:45.01`	`BadKnees`	`How do i turn jitterbuffer on for some iax2 channels on of for other. Im using trunk when i speak to my asterisk pstn from my main asterisk, and i dont want jitterbuffer when im using trunk. But i want my other clients who connect to my main asterisk to use jitterbuffer and no trunk. But jitterbuffer is only allowed in the General section.`
`11:45.46`	`bartpbx`	`seams that DeadAGI causes the Hangup`
`11:46.18`	`syle`	`badkness you can put it in any section i beleive`
`11:46.51`	`syle`	`don;t quote me on that though`
`11:47.13`	`BadKnees`	`voip-info.org says http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+config+iax.conf only General section. but i havent tried it`
`11:47.26`	`syle`	`using jitterbuffer at all is bad`
`11:47.51`	`syle`	`i;ve had way to many problems with it, everything seems to work best when its off`
`11:48.28`	`BadKnees`	`Jitterbuffer should be a good thing when fighting echo, i think`
`11:48.29`	`syle`	`i'd fix the network problem not the software to compensate`
`11:48.56`	`syle`	`ummm jitterbuffer is different than echo`
`11:48.58`	`BadKnees`	`Fixing the network is not completly in my hands`
`11:49.12`	`bartpbx`	`pooh_, any further hint for me?`
`11:49.28`	`bartpbx`	`the exec_deadagi in res_agi.c just returnes -1`
`11:50.02`	`syle`	`your concerned about jitterbuffer when your concerned about packet loss is easiest way to think about it`
`11:51.30`	`BadKnees`	`Thats no completly true, Jitterbuffer is used when there is difference in the roundtrip of packages`
`11:51.32`	`syle`	`let me know how it goes, i;ve made echo problems worst before enabling jitterbuffer, run your own tests, maybe it will work for you`
`11:51.33`	`BadKnees`	`sort of`
`11:51.44`	`twisted`	`bartpbx, if you read the description for deadagi, it's meant to run agi's on a hung up channel.`
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`11:52.48`	`[[zoa]]`	`twiiiisteeed`
`11:52.53`	`bartpbx`	`twisted, thanks for the hint.`
`11:53.00`	`cjk`	`hi, is it possible to not cache all realtime peers but only some which i define?`
`11:53.13`	`bartpbx`	`so deadagi, does never return to the dialplan`
`11:53.31`	`twisted`	`no, it does, but the return code doesn't matter if the channel isn't up`
`11:53.41`	`twisted`	`use AGI`
`11:54.27`	`bartpbx`	`hm`
`11:54.42`	`bartpbx`	`Ok, I'll use a local agi to test this`
`11:55.08`	`bartpbx`	`and to handle the fallback of the netscript`
`11:55.13`	`[[zoa]]`	`just a sidenote, twisted does consultancy for these things, you might prefer him to fix it for you :)`
`11:55.48`	`twisted`	`[[zoa]], heh.. i just happened to be up -- woken up suddenly with loud stereo from upstairs`
`11:56.03`	`[[zoa]]`	`you lazy bastard :p`
`11:56.12`	`twisted`	`it's not even 6am on a saturday`
`11:56.15`	`BadKnees`	`One more. Isn't the Expire parameter in SIP supposed to make the sip unit to reregister after the timeout?`
`11:56.42`	`twisted`	`hell, the sun isn't even out yet`
`11:57.21`	`saftsack`	`do you know some cheap voip telephones (just for testing around with asterisk)`
`11:57.22`	`[[zoa]]`	`i need some volunteers to have a look at my new website and provide me with usefull comments`
`11:58.58`	`syle`	`what kind of site`
`11:59.20`	`BadKnees`	`Im using nat and qualify to fight sip nat problems. And i works fine for all sipura and handytone devices. But the vip-150t dissapears after an hour. And is dosent come online again before someone tries to make a call from it. I thought the expire should fix this, so i would reregister after the Expire Timeout`
`11:59.32`	`[[zoa]]`	`porn baby, PORN!`
`12:00.03`	`syle`	`j/k`
`12:00.09`	`[[zoa]]`	`haha lol`
`12:00.14`	`[[zoa]]`	`i sent you the link in a privmsg`
`12:00.27`	`syle`	`nope`
`12:01.38`	`[[zoa]]`	`yes i did`
`12:01.41`	`[[zoa]]`	`you little bastard :p`
`12:01.52`	`[[zoa]]`	`-`
`12:01.52`	`[[zoa]]`	`Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )`
`12:01.54`	`[[zoa]]`	`ah fuck`
`12:02.01`	`[[zoa]]`	`pfft`
`12:02.02`	`[[zoa]]`	`-`
`12:02.03`	`[[zoa]]`	`Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )`
`12:02.05`	`[[zoa]]`	`opos`
`12:02.07`	`saftsack`	`stun and sip as features is enough for telephoning with asterisk?`
`12:02.19`	`[[zoa]]`	`<PROTECTED>`
`12:02.43`	`zoa`	`stupid nickserv`
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`12:09.46`	`pooh_`	`twisted: any RealTime experience ?`
`12:09.54`	`BadKnees`	`im using realtime`
`12:10.02`	`*** join/#asterisk demetrio (n=demetrio@62.173.180.182)`
`12:10.05`	`BadKnees`	`works like a charm`
`12:10.11`	`pooh_`	`BadKnees: ok, hve a couple of questions`
`12:10.19`	`BadKnees`	`shoot`
`12:10.22`	`pooh_`	`BadKnees: RealTime works here too`
`12:10.23`	`syle`	`twisted: what you been doing all night lol`
`12:10.35`	`pooh_`	`But, I see different register outputs`
`12:10.42`	`demetrio`	`Does anyone here know how call hold works on grandstream 386 ATAs?`
`12:11.07`	`zoa`	`i dont think call hold every worked on a grandstream`
`12:11.19`	`pooh_`	`BadKnees:`
`12:11.19`	`pooh_`	`(22:07:16) pooh_: I see different resut when using Realtime e.g.:`
`12:11.19`	`pooh_`	`(22:07:16) pooh_: (17:42:21) pooh_: res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: Update SQL: UPDATE sip_accounts SET ipaddr = '192.168.5.118', port = '5060', regseconds = '1131531041', username = '9011', fullcontact = 'sip:9011@192.168.5.118:5060' WHERE name = '9011'`
`12:11.19`	`pooh_`	`(22:07:16) pooh_: (17:42:21) pooh_: res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: Update SQL: UPDATE SIP_accounts SET ipaddr = '192.168.5.118', port = '5060', regseconds = '1131563860', username = '9011' WHERE name = '9011'`
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`12:11.34`	`demetrio`	`wow, so I'm not the only one who has trouble with it`
`12:11.56`	`demetrio`	`I managed to understand how it works`
`12:12.28`	`BadKnees`	`hmm, im using odbc`
`12:12.34`	`pooh_`	`BadKnees: why is it that in the first line 'fullcontact' is used`
`12:12.50`	`BadKnees`	`I must say i dond know`
`12:12.54`	`BadKnees`	`I must say i dont know`
`12:13.26`	`pooh_`	`BadKnees: k, how about reading stuff from you db, what do you use, RealTime and get all record details for there is no RealTimeLoad`
`12:13.26`	`BadKnees`	`check the code. Two different scenarios, maybe`
`12:13.32`	`demetrio`	`when a phone connected to the ATA puts a call on hold and the switches back, the other end won't be able to hear anything. BUT if the ATA phone is hung up, it will spontaneusly ring (without telling anything to asterisk) and connect back to the same line, everything working perfectly then.`
`12:13.42`	`syle`	`I would assume its storing the mapping for the NAT port`
`12:13.57`	`demetrio`	`is there any way to make it behave less horribly?`
`12:14.21`	`syle`	`don;t use nat?`
`12:14.25`	`pooh_`	`BadKnees: RealtimeUpdate exists tho for updating specific fields, but no RealTimeLoad to read specific fields`
`12:15.11`	`BadKnees`	`pooh_, i don't understand what you mean.`
`12:15.49`	`pooh_`	`BadKnees: to update a field in a record there is the RealTimeUpdate app, but there is no equivalent to READ a specific field`
`12:16.23`	`BadKnees`	`true, you only get all information when using realtime load`
`12:16.30`	`BadKnees`	`is that a problem?`
`12:16.58`	`pooh_`	`BadKnees: well, I just need to catch 1 variable from 1 field only, not the whole record`
`12:17.21`	`BadKnees`	`I don't think thats possible`
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`12:17.35`	`pooh_`	`BadKnees: 20 simulatnious calls with d action creates a LOT of chan vars`
`12:17.41`	`pooh_`	`db action`
`12:18.36`	`pooh_`	`BadKnees: another really important issue to me is how to handle 'record not' found in the dialplan, automatic jump prio+101 does not work with RealTime`
`12:19.05`	`pooh_`	`BadKnees: with dbget and dbput it is automatically, thus saves a lot of code`
`12:19.13`	`nexis`	`ok, im working on a intresting project with asterisk, i want to pull a rss feed, and have it read the topics with festival, and allow the user to hit a key to read the story, or skip to the next one, just curious if anyone`
`12:19.14`	`pooh_`	`BadKnees: and parsing of the dialplan`
`12:19.32`	`nexis`	`has seen a AGI setup for rss to voice(festival) that i can peak at.`
`12:20.30`	`BadKnees`	`Haven't had these issues. My setup i very simple. One table for both sip and iax peers/users. And one entry in the dialplan. A homemade PrePaid module that reads from the same database.`
`12:20.44`	`pooh_`	`nexis: I played with external files read by festival once. I pulled the content from CNN.com and let festival read it when you dial an extension`
`12:21.04`	`pooh_`	`BadKnees: ok`
`12:21.17`	`syle`	`what did you use, perl LWP?`
`12:21.37`	`nexis`	`pooh_, with rss, or something else?`
`12:22.16`	`pooh_`	`nexis: just the website of CNN, explode stuff and prepare the text file`
`12:22.19`	`syle`	`rss is just pulling data between 2 xml tags right`
`12:22.29`	`nexis`	`yea`
`12:22.51`	`nexis`	`so i should be able to do it with out much of a problem`
`12:22.53`	`pooh_`	`nexis: 1 small script to read CNN and explode it between fixed points, then hand the file over to festival`
`12:23.14`	`syle`	`explode, pooh used php hehee`
`12:23.20`	`nexis`	`pooh_, still have it laying around, and would you care if i peaked at it?`
`12:23.54`	`pooh_`	`nexis: it was very simple, but I do not have it at hand atm`
`12:24.11`	`nexis`	`pooh_, ok, ill see what i can do with bash scripting, as thats my perfered language.`
`12:24.13`	`nexis`	`snicker`
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`12:24.57`	`pooh_`	`nexis: as I recall, I used System() to do some shell and save the textfile to /tmp. Then next prio have festival read it`
`12:25.09`	`nexis`	`k`
`12:25.17`	`pooh_`	`nexis: question was to prepare the file on the fly or scheduled every xx minutes`
`12:25.35`	`pooh_`	`nexis: on the fly costs time, which many users find annoying`
`12:25.35`	`nexis`	`i think i can get away with just doing it on a cron job`
`12:26.23`	`pooh_`	`nexis: yeah, taht will do`
`12:27.21`	`pooh_`	`@everyone, I saw a cute little demo the other day with *`
`12:27.25`	`nexis`	`man, in my college days, they told us that cobol would be the only programing language in 20 years, so make sure we learn it.`
`12:27.37`	`pooh_`	`nexis: maybe they are right :-)`
`12:27.51`	`nexis`	`pooh_, ill have to hang myself with some thinnet line if that happens.`
`12:28.11`	`pooh_`	`an * server was connected to GooGleEarth, dialing an areacode made another PC focus on the exact spot`
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`12:30.34`	`pooh_`	`BadKnees: caught my last question about priotity jump with RealTime ?`
`12:33.52`	`pooh_`	`BadKnees: in other words, what result does a query return to the dialplan if failure or success?`
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`12:35.01`	`BadKnees`	`sorry im back`
`12:35.55`	`pooh_`	`BadKnees: np, so wondering how to catch the query result in the dialplan`
`12:35.56`	`enemy^x`	anyone here have bad experiences with Bristuff and dual e1s? I`m loosing my D-Channel and audio after a while and have to rmmod/insmod again and restart everything to get things up running again. Wondering if visdn could help me in a better fashion.... This seems to happen around 2 times a day under load (200-300 calls).
`12:39.17`	`BadKnees`	`hmm`
`12:39.57`	`pooh_`	`BadKnees: Looking at the source it is returning either 0 or -1`
`12:40.08`	`pooh_`	`but in what chan variable`
`12:40.15`	`BadKnees`	`hehe, im not being much help here. My setup is so different from your`
`12:40.16`	`BadKnees`	`s`
`12:41.10`	`pooh_`	`BadKnees: sure? RealTime = RealTime ;-)`
`12:44.10`	`BadKnees`	`but im only using realtime for the clients to register. I don't catch anything in my dial plan exept the channel itself, where i get callerid and stuff, wich i in turn use to lookup other stuff in my database`
`12:44.31`	`BadKnees`	`like credit'n stuff`
`12:44.58`	`BadKnees`	`Everything else is in the *chan`
`12:45.11`	`pooh_`	`BadKnees: ok, got ya`
`12:46.40`	`BadKnees`	`All my clients are created and treated equal. If you got money/credit you can call, else hangup`
`12:47.44`	`pooh_`	`BadKnees: how do YOU catch a failed query ?`
`12:48.31`	`cjk`	`hi is there an option to tell sipsak to ignore failures and just go one with a stress tool?`
`12:48.42`	`BadKnees`	`do you mean if a certain record dosent exist?`
`12:48.52`	`pooh_`	`for example yes`
`12:50.02`	`BadKnees`	`i dont try to catch it. I'ts automaticly denied access as the record does not exist. But i dont know if thats what you mean. Exactly why do you want to catch it?`
`12:50.21`	`BadKnees`	`hehe, my english sucks`
`12:51.14`	`pooh_`	`Ok, if I do query the result can be found or not found right? How can you tell the difference, e.g. deny access`
`12:51.30`	`pooh_`	`BadKnees: what is you language pls?`
`12:51.36`	`BadKnees`	`Faroese`
`12:51.42`	`BadKnees`	`From Faroe Island's`
`12:51.47`	`pooh_`	`ewww, nope, not on my list ;-)`
`12:51.57`	`BadKnees`	`hehe way up north`
`12:52.02`	`BadKnees`	`cold and wet`
`12:52.05`	`pooh_`	`Nice meeting you`
`12:53.07`	`BadKnees`	`Access is denied if the record does no exist. If the record does not exist the peer does not exist and is denied access.`
`12:53.38`	`pooh_`	`How can you tell, how do you deny access. eg. If record not exist -> deny in the dialplan ?`
`12:54.27`	`BadKnees`	`no, the non registered peer never reach the dialplan. He has to register first. First register, then dial`
`12:55.37`	`BadKnees`	`i only use the realtime to know who can register and not. IAX2 and SIP will send register failed if it no found in the realtimeload`
`12:57.18`	`pooh_`	`ah ok, clear`
`12:59.11`	`BadKnees`	`I have made a change to the realtime' though. I've added a boolean field called active in the table. I have 10.000 possible clients in my table, but only some are in use (marked active). Realtime reads all the active into asterisk, and lets them register. And i cache them to with: rtcachefriends=>yes`
`12:59.29`	`pooh_`	`BadKnees: The population in the Faroe Islands is 48.290`
`12:59.31`	`pooh_`	`Damn!!`
`12:59.50`	`BadKnees`	`hehe, yes`
`13:00.08`	`BadKnees`	`80.000 sheeps though. So our sex lifes is OK`
`13:00.35`	`pooh_`	`LOL`
`13:00.36`	`pooh_`	`The fishing industry is the most important source of income for the Faroes.`
`13:00.36`	`pooh_`	`Fish products account for over 97% of the export volume.`
`13:00.36`	`pooh_`	`Tourism is the second largest industry, followed by woollen and other manufactured products.`
`13:00.41`	`pooh_`	`Where are you ?`
`13:00.50`	`BadKnees`	`Torshavn`
`13:00.54`	`BadKnees`	`capitol`
`13:01.16`	`BadKnees`	`but im from a village with about 300 people`
`13:01.23`	`pooh_`	`damn nice`
`13:01.42`	`BadKnees`	`I don't worry about overloading my asterisk:)`
`13:01.52`	`pooh_`	`:-)`
`13:02.29`	`pooh_`	`BadKnees: so your clients call in over PSTN to your * box ?`
`13:02.43`	`BadKnees`	`yes`
`13:02.54`	`BadKnees`	`i have two asterisk. One main and one pstn`
`13:02.56`	`pooh_`	`and you deliver low rates for Intl calling ?`
`13:03.01`	`BadKnees`	`yes`
`13:03.04`	`pooh_`	`nice`
`13:03.14`	`syle`	`what billing software you use?`
`13:03.19`	`pooh_`	`so no real IP clients, just PSTN clients`
`13:04.49`	`BadKnees`	`syle: my own. Couldnt find anythint to sooth my needs`
`13:05.25`	`syle`	`yeah thats why i;m creating something to sooth everyone;s needs`
`13:05.30`	`BadKnees`	`no only ip clients that have regulat phonenumber that can call out, and people can call in to`
`13:05.51`	`BadKnees`	`Ok. I was thinking about publishing mine`
`13:06.23`	`pooh_`	`so we have a marriage here!! WOOHOOO!!!!`
`13:07.29`	`BadKnees`	`My dialplan looks like this: exten => _X.,1,TTPrepaid(), the rest is magic`
`13:07.54`	`*** join/#asterisk InfraRed (n=bigboss@bb-82-111-95-135.ukonline.co.uk)`
`13:08.08`	`InfraRed`	`any asterisk@home users?`
`13:08.08`	`pooh_`	`BadKnees: you wrote a new app?`
`13:08.16`	`pooh_`	`InfraRed: not me`
`13:08.17`	`InfraRed`	`did the default password change for AMP?`
`13:08.18`	`BadKnees`	`yes`
`13:08.30`	`syle`	`sunsaturn:/etc/asterisk/sunsaturn-module# cat sunsaturn.c\|wc -l`
`13:08.30`	`InfraRed`	`why isnt it in the documentations:/`
`13:08.30`	`syle`	`<PROTECTED>`
`13:08.30`	`syle`	`sunsaturn:/etc/asterisk/sunsaturn-module#`
`13:08.33`	`BadKnees`	`it's quite simple`
`13:08.40`	`InfraRed`	`admin/password doesnt work`
`13:09.26`	`syle`	`well mine sort of does same thing`
`13:09.39`	`syle`	`sunsaturn(blah);`
`13:10.29`	`syle`	`but its been designed with alot of feature requests in mind`
`13:10.30`	`BadKnees`	`the app: http://thor.teletech.fo/test/app_ttprepaid.c`
`13:10.54`	`BadKnees`	`and http://thor.teletech.fo/test/calldata.h`
`13:11.44`	`BadKnees`	`it's based on the prepaid module`
`13:12.00`	`syle`	`you wrote it?`
`13:12.46`	`syle`	`looking, yeah i saw that countrycode function on some mailing lists, i found it very inefficient`
`13:14.47`	`BadKnees`	`do you got one better`
`13:14.51`	`BadKnees`	`gimme`
`13:14.59`	`syle`	`its not finished`
`13:15.36`	`BadKnees`	`database design commi'n up`
`13:15.58`	`syle`	`its does everything this does, but i also added in a hell of alot more features`
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`13:16.40`	`syle`	`some important ones, like spooling records to a file if database is down`
`13:17.31`	`BadKnees`	`database http://thor.teletech.fo/test/design.ps`
`13:17.34`	`syle`	`throwing them back in when it comes back up, separate database servers for call info and cdr records(if you wanted to have 100 asterisk servers and one central db) kinda thing`
`13:18.21`	`BadKnees`	`well, im kind of a newbie here. go easy on me`
`13:19.27`	`BadKnees`	`it's more than a voip solution. It's a complete isp solution with a php administration site'n stuff`
`13:20.04`	`syle`	`yeah php side is being done as well`
`13:20.51`	`BadKnees`	`but very customized. It should be more general so that other people could use it to. But time is not on my side`
`13:34.48`	`enemy^x`	`anyone know how to format the number on FOP? So that it doesnt show XX) XXX-XXXX ?`
`13:38.12`	`enemy^x`	`found it in op_server.pl`
`13:38.15`	`enemy^x`	`nm`
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`14:31.26`	`demetrio`	`is it possible to play gsm files for musiconhold?`
`14:32.09`	`demetrio`	`or, if the server does not have a sound card, how can I get mpg123 to work?`
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`14:32.46`	`Ariel_`	`morning everyone`
`14:33.12`	`pooh_`	`morning`
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`14:42.22`	`Ariel_`	`pooh_, it's a good Idea but it's not ready for realtime... hehe, I use a combination of setups into mysql then do manager api to reload the asterisk config files`
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`14:48.05`	`caio1982`	`Ariel_: is it "explainable" in details? interesting`
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`14:58.53`	`demetrio`	`if I tell asterisk to use a custom player for moh which doesn't exist, it won't give me any error. why?`
`15:04.31`	`snitt`	`it gives you`
`15:04.33`	`snitt`	`at boot time`
`15:05.45`	`snitt`	`even when versobity and debuglevel is 0`
`15:06.07`	`RoyK`	`hm.. i thought i bought this nice, straight .it wine, in a hurry, and it turned out to be a 15% amarone`
`15:07.03`	`snitt`	`.it :)`
`15:08.26`	`Ariel_`	`caio1982, if you look at a GUI like AMP you will see how they use mysql for the storage of there setups and also how they reload them from there.`
`15:10.10`	`caio1982`	`Ariel_: without losing the asterisk connectivity while reloading they all?`
`15:10.24`	`caio1982`	`sounds cool to check out`
`15:11.07`	`caio1982`	`I was gonna use RT, but then I should look for more info about it, heh`
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`15:16.32`	`puzzled`	`anyone know what "incominglimit" has become in 1.2.0-rc2?`
`15:21.11`	`Corydon76-home`	`You should use groups, instead`
`15:21.44`	`Corydon76-home`	`Set(GROUP()=...) and GROUP_COUNT(...)`
`15:22.01`	`BadKnees`	`is there any US pstn echo service where i can test my pstn line`
`15:23.34`	`Corydon76-home`	`group count is more powerful, anyway`
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`15:25.30`	`Al_Berto`	`hi there :)`
`15:25.51`	`Al_Berto`	`i have a problem with the german sip-provider qsc`
`15:26.51`	`Al_Berto`	`they are using SER and everytime asterisk tries to register with the proxy it receives chan_sip.c:9542 handle_response_register: Failed to authenticate on REGISTER`
`15:28.11`	`Al_Berto`	`in the WWW-Authenticate-part of the register the qsc-server puts a newline (0x0a) after each komma`
`15:28.19`	`Al_Berto`	`could that be the problem?`
`15:28.24`	`Corydon76-home`	`Al_Berto: yes`
`15:29.10`	`Corydon76-home`	`There's a requirement that it all be on the same line`
`15:29.11`	`Al_Berto`	`any suggestions on how to fix that without changes on qsc's side?`
`15:29.18`	`Corydon76-home`	`Nope`
`15:29.28`	`Al_Berto`	`or will i have to dig through chan_sip.c myself? ;)`
`15:29.40`	`Corydon76-home`	`Get qsc to fix their shit`
`15:29.49`	`Ariel_`	`ok it's time to go out and find a new place to live in. See you all later.`
`15:29.55`	`Al_Berto`	`they're a bunch of <censored>`
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`15:30.49`	`Corydon76-home`	`Haven't read the RFC recently, but I think the standard says that isn't supposed to be broken across multiple lines`
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`15:31.19`	`Corydon76-home`	`I think that's why it was said that we won't try to change that`
`15:31.23`	`Al_Berto`	`i think so too. the "," should be sufficient as a seperator`
`15:31.33`	`Corydon76-home`	`(technical violation of the SIP spec)`
`15:32.27`	`darius_`	`I'm trying to terminate a call between asterisk boxes with iax. The destination box is hanging up the call. enabling debugging only shows which end terminated the call... how can I determine why?`
`15:41.50`	`Corydon76-home`	`darius_: IAX2 sends a cause code with every termination`
`15:42.29`	`Corydon76-home`	`and not just a cause code but also a cause string`
`15:43.18`	`yxa`	`how do i dial someone's iax using firefly. just guest@iax.server.com ?`
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`15:51.52`	`emdub`	`yo shido`
`15:54.35`	`file[laptop]`	`I'm the only one awake here... at Junky's place`
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`16:01.28`	`drumkilla`	`omg!!!!!!!!!`
`16:03.00`	`Lostfrog`	`lol.`
`16:03.24`	`Lostfrog`	`Does anyone know the IP address for the * server in the white house?`
`16:03.34`	Math`	`11.22.41.234`
`16:03.35`	`drumkilla`	`7`
`16:04.09`	`Lostfrog`	`OMFG.. that is a mil sight.`
`16:04.11`	`Lostfrog`	`site`
`16:04.19`	Math`	`lol`
`16:04.31`	Math`	`11.0.0.0/8 is reserved to the DOD`
`16:04.33`	`drumkilla`	`you didn't scan navy.mil did you?`
`16:04.36`	`Lostfrog`	`Of course they have the 11 Class A`
`16:04.40`	`Lostfrog`	`No.`
`16:04.44`	`Lostfrog`	`I did a whois.`
`16:04.48`	`drumkilla`	`ah.`
`16:05.02`	Math`	`I just know the assignement :P`
`16:06.41`	`file[laptop]`	`drumkilla: YOU!`
`16:06.43`	`Lostfrog`	`Hmm.. www.whitehouse.gov is coloed somewhere.`
`16:07.03`	`drumkilla`	`no way!`
`16:07.06`	`drumkilla`	`it's not in the white house?!`
`16:07.24`	`file[laptop]`	`illogical, does not compute!`
`16:07.30`	`Lostfrog`	`I would figure it would be on a .gov network.`
`16:09.28`	`Lostfrog`	`Don't run with *.`
`16:10.11`	Math`	`wtf`
`16:10.17`	Math`	`www.navy.mil resolve to an ip of my ISP`
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`16:10.53`	`Lostfrog`	`same colo service.`
`16:10.56`	`Lostfrog`	`akamai.net`
`16:11.00`	`puzzled`	`Corydon-w: thanks for the "groups" tip`
`16:13.29`	Math`	`http://www.akamai.com/en/html/technology/nocc.html <- thats a hell of a noc`
`16:13.56`	`Lostfrog`	`They have some big clients.`
`16:14.29`	Math`	`well if the DOD sites are hosted there I expect so`
`16:15.28`	`Lostfrog`	`I bet the whitehouse.gov website was moved after it was hacked.`
`16:16.02`	`Lostfrog`	`http://www.akamai.com/en/html/about/customers.html`
`16:16.38`	`Lostfrog`	`Apple.. Monster.com E*trade .. Charles Schwab`
`16:16.46`	`Lostfrog`	`J.C. Penny`
`16:17.00`	Math`	`thats a good customer list`
`16:17.02`	`Lostfrog`	`RedHat`
`16:17.25`	`Lostfrog`	`Heavy hitters.`
`16:17.32`	Math`	`IBM, Yahoo, GM`
`16:18.06`	`Lostfrog`	`FDA, DOD, DOE`
`16:18.24`	`Lostfrog`	`BMW`
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`16:30.34`	`Sp3ciaL_K`	`Gooooood morning all`
`16:30.46`	`Lostfrog`	`Good morning, Sp3ciaL_K.`
`16:35.03`	`Lostfrog`	`Bye, Sp3ciaL_K`
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`17:02.11`	`wunderkin`	`ha they said they tested my line and got no errors, yet i never saw the line go down on *`
`17:03.08`	`darius_`	`I have a SIP phone connected directly to a remote Asterisk server and call quality is great. I just added an Asterisk server locally and setup an IAX connection .. now call quality is horrible. What should I be tweaking for iax?`
`17:03.29`	`darius_`	`Original Scenario: Cisco7960 <-SIP/WAN-> AsteriskRemote VoiceMail`
`17:03.30`	`darius_`	`New Scenario: Cisco7960 <-SIP/LAN-> AsteriskLocal <-IAX/WAN-> AsteriskRemote VoiceMail`
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`17:15.32`	`Qwell`	`Lostfrog: Microsoft, Wells Fargo`
`17:17.13`	`Nivex`	`I got the SIP 7.4 firmware on it, have it all configured, but it won't register to my * box.`
`17:17.26`	`emdub`	`my 7960 works fine`
`17:17.49`	`emdub`	`7.5 is the latest and greatest sw btw`
`17:18.00`	`Nivex`	`yes but from what I've read on the wiki it has some known issues`
`17:18.05`	`emdub`	`ive had no probs`
`17:18.09`	`Nivex`	`I have 7.5 if I decide to go to it`
`17:18.20`	`Nivex`	`I had 7.5 on it last night and had the same problems`
`17:18.27`	`Nivex`	`I'm probably missing some config directive`
`17:18.42`	`Qwell`	`Nivex: well...what happens when it tries?`
`17:18.43`	`emdub`	`was pretty vanilla, just code upgrade it and put it in sip.conf`
`17:18.53`	`emdub`	`nothing out of the ordinary`
`17:18.54`	`Qwell`	`surely you've looked at the sip debug, and perhaps a tcpdump`
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`17:19.59`	`Chuji`	`What does cdr_odbc look for to get compiled?`
`17:20.14`	`Qwell`	`unixODBC`
`17:20.16`	`BadKnees`	`libodbc:)`
`17:20.20`	`Qwell`	`or that`
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`17:20.36`	`Nivex`	`here's my SIP config (pretty straight forward): http://pastebin.ca/28466`
`17:20.47`	`Nivex`	`Qwell: hang on I'm getting the sip debug data for you. i couldn't make sense of it.`
`17:20.51`	`Chuji`	`hmm, I've got it, but it was rpm based install`
`17:20.56`	`Chuji`	`wonder if that makes a difference`
`17:22.17`	`emdub`	`your sip.conf is wrong`
`17:22.21`	`emdub`	`you dont specify a username`
`17:23.10`	`Nivex`	`emdub: didn't work when I had username= in there`
`17:23.38`	`emdub`	`http://pastebin.ca/28469`
`17:23.43`	`emdub`	`thats my sip.conf for the 7960`
`17:23.45`	`Nivex`	`SIP debug results: http://pastebin.ca/28468`
`17:23.53`	`Chuji`	`mm, guess so, looks like it's trying to find odbcinst.h`
`17:24.07`	`Chuji`	`can I just put a pointer to that file and it will build?`
`17:24.41`	`Nivex`	`basically it looks as though the phone is not trying to send a password`
`17:25.31`	`Nivex`	`if that is the case, the problem is probably beyond the scope of this channel`
`17:25.47`	`emdub`	`whats your linex_* stuff in SIP00...cnf look like?`
`17:26.10`	`Nivex`	`proxy1_address: 172.31.3.2`
`17:26.10`	`Nivex`	`line1_name : "cisco"`
`17:26.10`	`Nivex`	`line1_authname : "cisco"`
`17:26.17`	`Nivex`	`line1_password : xxxxxxxxxx`
`17:28.05`	`emdub`	`mine looks similiar though without spaces between the keywords and the :`
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`17:28.15`	`emdub`	`dunno if that matters`
`17:28.38`	`emdub`	`if you do a show whatever on the phone are the variables set properly?`
`17:28.53`	`emdub`	`show config`
`17:29.03`	`emdub`	`oh, thats what you got that ouput from nm`
`17:29.11`	`Nivex`	`yes show config displays the proper vars`
`17:29.39`	`BadKnees`	`anyone know an american phonenumber i can call to test my pstn to america`
`17:30.12`	`emdub`	`650-623-5000`
`17:30.19`	`emdub`	`+1 ...`
`17:33.24`	`Nivex`	`ok, my asterisk box must have been freaking out. I completely restarted it and now the phone registers.`
`17:33.27`	`Nivex`	`Thanks for the help all`
`17:33.50`	`emdub`	`:)`
`17:40.10`	`ManxPower`	`~docs`
`17:40.12`	`jbot`	`i heard docs is Documentation can be found at http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk or http://www.asteriskdocs.org or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/asterisk`
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`17:43.29`	`BadKnees`	`emdub, allright thanks`
`17:43.47`	`BadKnees`	`emdub, the number you have dialed....`
`17:44.14`	`emdub`	`its a valid number`
`17:44.37`	`BadKnees`	`yes but it says the number you have dial is not valid..`
`17:44.58`	`emdub`	`sounds like your pstn to the us is broken then or you are dialing it wrong`
`17:45.02`	`emdub`	`did you put a 1 before 650?`
`17:45.13`	`BadKnees`	`yes`
`17:45.20`	`BadKnees`	`and american voice`
`17:45.22`	`emdub`	`k well, it works for me :)`
`17:45.30`	`BadKnees`	`what do you get`
`17:45.37`	`emdub`	`"thank you for calling google ..."`
`17:45.40`	`emdub`	`its the main number`
`17:45.46`	`BadKnees`	`hmm`
`17:45.59`	`BadKnees`	`where is you asterisk server`
`17:46.25`	`emdub`	`here in california`
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`17:50.43`	`BadKnees`	`calling wi-lan in canada`
`17:50.45`	`BadKnees`	`is ok`
`17:52.07`	`emdub`	`shrug`
`17:54.47`	`BadKnees`	`right back at'ya`
`18:00.01`	`wunderkin`	`justinu: they tested the 1st t1 last night and got no errors to the niu, they said they werent able to loop the csu.. i never saw anything on my side.. hmm?`
`18:00.18`	`wunderkin`	`we are going to try putting a hard loop on the panel in the cabinet and see if they can test to there`
`18:00.35`	`wunderkin`	`its in a colo there is an extended dmarc from the telco room to the colo cabinet`
`18:00.40`	`wunderkin`	`then a panel in the cabinet`
`18:01.01`	`wunderkin`	`wondering why they couldn't loop to me`
`18:04.55`	`wunderkin`	`kpfleming and i are thinking its from interference since it only happens at certain times of the day`
`18:10.19`	`justinu`	`you didn't even see the circuit go down when they tested to the NIU?`
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`18:13.57`	`deezed`	`Does anyone know if its possible to have asterisk go to another extensions if Playback() fails because the wav file does not exist?`
`18:14.43`	`YoMama`	`deezed: why not just test to see if the file exists and if it doesn't, then u just go to another extension`
`18:14.51`	`Qwell`	`nah`
`18:14.58`	`Qwell`	`${PLAYBACKSTATUS}`
`18:15.07`	`YoMama`	`Qwell: oh yeah..that'd be easier :)`
`18:15.15`	`Qwell`	`This application sets the following channel variable upon completion:`
`18:15.15`	`Qwell`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:15.17`	`wunderkin`	`justinu, no`
`18:15.26`	`deezed`	`So do a GOTOif? based on playbackstatus?`
`18:15.32`	`Qwell`	`yep`
`18:15.42`	`justinu`	`wunderkin: that's odd... usually when the telco loops an NIU, the NIU sends AIS to the CPE`
`18:15.43`	`deezed`	`wow thanks... you solved my dillema`
`18:15.49`	`justinu`	`don't telco acronyms rule?`
`18:15.50`	`YoMama`	`so...i haven't compiled a new linux kernel in over 5 years and i copmiled 2.4.31 with ext3 as a module...and my filesystem is ext3..so that's a bad idea right?`
`18:15.51`	`Qwell`	`deezed: paypal.com`
`18:15.59`	`deezed`	`meh`
`18:16.01`	`Qwell`	`:p`
`18:16.07`	`wunderkin`	`justinu, maybe it didn't get the memo`
`18:16.08`	`deezed`	`haha`
`18:16.10`	`Lostfrog`	`YoMama: initrd?`
`18:16.24`	`justinu`	`wunderkin: or maybe you have a crossed telco tx pair somewhere`
`18:16.35`	`YoMama`	`Lostfrog: no..i got that working...the problem is that when my new kernel tries to mount my root fs...it throws error 19`
`18:16.36`	Math`	`nah I guess he;s just gonna recompile it`
`18:16.43`	`Qwell`	`see, you can't just throw out the paypal when people say "thanks". You've gotta wait for the "wow, thanks!"`
`18:16.44`	`ManxPower`	`wunderkin, How did the telco loop go?`
`18:16.48`	`YoMama`	`Lostfrog: already figured out that problem with the LABEL=/...`
`18:16.49`	`wunderkin`	`justinu, hmm.. thats what we thought was the other problem so they switched it on the block and they switched it back`
`18:17.03`	`justinu`	`hmm`
`18:17.11`	`Lostfrog`	`If you mkinitrd for the new kernel, the initrd.img should contain the ext3 module.`
`18:17.11`	`wunderkin`	`ManxPower, i think the long distance carrier is the only one doing the testing so far`
`18:17.23`	`justinu`	`t1's can be irritating bastards sometimes`
`18:17.28`	`justinu`	`too bad you don't have a sunset`
`18:17.30`	`ManxPower`	`wunderkin, Who sends you the bill for the service?`
`18:17.35`	`justinu`	`i'd loan you mine if you were nearby`
`18:17.41`	`wunderkin`	`ManxPower, the long distance company`
`18:17.56`	`ManxPower`	`wunderkin, then they need to loop to your local smartjack.`
`18:17.58`	`wunderkin`	`justinu, where are ya at?`
`18:18.02`	`justinu`	`la`
`18:18.11`	`ManxPower`	`justinu, L.A or LA?`
`18:18.18`	`justinu`	`los angeles`
`18:18.24`	`ManxPower`	`Ah.`
`18:18.26`	`wunderkin`	`i was going to move there but that fizzled out`
`18:18.36`	`Qwell`	`whoever decided to reuse "LA" wasn't thinking very well...`
`18:18.40`	`wunderkin`	`ManxPower, i think they tested to the niu at my location from that they said`
`18:18.41`	`justinu`	`heh`
`18:18.56`	`wunderkin`	`ManxPower, and they said they tested clean to niu but couldnt loop csu`
`18:18.58`	`justinu`	`there should be a way to loop up the "smartjack" towards you`
`18:19.08`	`justinu`	`do you /have/ a csu?`
`18:19.16`	`wunderkin`	`justinu, yeah.. i guess the telco has to do that maybe? i was only dealing with the ld carrier`
`18:19.26`	`wunderkin`	`its hooked up directly to a te410p`
`18:19.32`	`justinu`	`ok, that explains it`
`18:19.43`	`justinu`	`can you force your te410p into loopback mode?`
`18:19.51`	`wunderkin`	`you can do that?`
`18:20.03`	`justinu`	`dialogics could do it with a switch on the back of the card`
`18:20.12`	`ManxPower`	`wunderkin, that's what the loopback option in zttool is for`
`18:20.14`	`justinu`	`dunno about the digium hardware`
`18:20.33`	`wunderkin`	`ManxPower, the loop button?`
`18:20.37`	`justinu`	`so put up a loop facing the telco and have them run all the way to your 410p card`
`18:20.38`	`mog_home`	`you can force it to loop back data to far end`
`18:20.50`	`Qwell`	`mog_home: using one port?`
`18:20.53`	`mog_home`	`but to run your own loop test on yourself you need loop back cable`
`18:21.10`	`mog_home`	`so you can act as a loopback to the other end with zttool`
`18:21.13`	`justinu`	`well, if he could loop the NIU facing CPE, he could run to the NIU`
`18:21.18`	`mog_home`	`so if you wanted to test your channel bank`
`18:21.26`	`mog_home`	`you could use loop in zttool`
`18:21.27`	`wunderkin`	`theres no channel bank`
`18:21.35`	`mog_home`	`without having to unplug stuff`
`18:21.35`	`Qwell`	`hypothetically`
`18:21.38`	`mog_home`	`or your telco`
`18:21.41`	`mog_home`	`its just hypo`
`18:21.46`	`wunderkin`	`ya`
`18:22.22`	`wunderkin`	`they are going to put a loopback plug in the patch panel in my cabinet but i was hoping to loop the te410p somehow so the ALL the cabling can be tested`
`18:22.32`	`justinu`	`yeah, you can do that`
`18:23.30`	`wunderkin`	`if i run zttool and click the loop button that will loop the card? is that all i gotta do?`
`18:23.59`	`wunderkin`	`i dont want to test just the card with a loopback in the card, i want to test with all the regular cabling`
`18:24.07`	`wunderkin`	`ive already tested the card`
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`18:24.33`	`justinu`	`what you're looping is the telco's tx signal thru the te410p's framer, then back out to the telco`
`18:24.45`	`justinu`	`so you test all the cabling and the t1 framer on your card`
`18:24.49`	`wunderkin`	`ya`
`18:25.12`	`wunderkin`	`which would be a good way to test if i can right? im just trying to find out how :D`
`18:25.35`	`justinu`	`yeah, you can call up your telco, and say that you've thrown up a hard loop at your CPE, and ask them to run BERT`
`18:25.55`	`wunderkin`	`do i run zttool, select the span, hit loop and thats all?`
`18:26.12`	`wunderkin`	`i dont see anything happen when it does that, it says looping span for a minute then goes back to that screen`
`18:26.19`	`wunderkin`	`yeah well im asking the others too ;)`
`18:26.59`	`justinu`	`when you're in loopback, your d channels should be down`
`18:27.09`	`wunderkin`	`i have asterisk running, nothing changes there`
`18:27.29`	`wunderkin`	`nothing is happening so thats why i dont think im doing it right`
`18:28.16`	`justinu`	`hmm`
`18:28.29`	`justinu`	`can you still take inbound calls?`
`18:28.33`	`wunderkin`	`and kpfleming says that the telco should be able to loop the card and they say they cant`
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`18:28.43`	`wunderkin`	`dont have a did.. but outbound has always been working`
`18:28.52`	`justinu`	`then no loop`
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`18:30.06`	`wunderkin`	`nope`
`18:31.30`	`oddjobz`	`Hi, can anyone help me out with this error message;`
`18:31.33`	`oddjobz`	`callerid.c:260 callerid_feed: fsk_serie made mylen < 0 (-9)`
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`18:31.59`	`oddjobz`	`Uk based line .. messages happens when an incoming call is started on a TM400 card ..`
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`18:34.16`	`Lostfrog`	`~motivation`
`18:35.58`	`Lostfrog`	`Damn.. I wish that worked.`
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`18:39.43`	`Bentley`	`hi - does anyone know anything about a company that bills charges as "TOLL FREE COMMUNICATION" in Florida??`
`18:40.07`	`wunderkin`	`is that broadvoice?`
`18:40.25`	`Bentley`	`i don't think so .. they run * and use alison for sounds`
`18:40.39`	`wunderkin`	`i know ive seen it before, broadvoice, nufone, ..... hmm`
`18:40.53`	`wunderkin`	`asterlink?`
`18:40.59`	`Bentley`	`just trying to track down who it is, as they mysteriously popped up with large charges on my visa ..`
`18:41.01`	`Bentley`	`maybe asterlink`
`18:41.10`	`Qwell`	`I don't think asterlink is in FL`
`18:41.13`	`Bentley`	`not answering their phones of course`
`18:41.20`	`Bentley`	`actually, you are right`
`18:41.28`	`Bentley`	`they are in MI i think`
`18:41.31`	`Qwell`	`neither is nufone. no clue about broadvoice`
`18:41.44`	`Bentley`	`sixtel maybe`
`18:41.46`	`Qwell`	`got a number?`
`18:41.49`	`Bentley`	`hrm ...`
`18:41.52`	`wunderkin`	`maybe thats just who processes their payments :P i know ive seen it before`
`18:41.58`	`Qwell`	`and is it googable?`
`18:41.59`	`wunderkin`	`yeah could be sixtel too`
`18:42.03`	`Bentley`	`ya 866 344 4690not on google`
`18:42.18`	`wunderkin`	`ive used a lot of providers before :D`
`18:42.51`	`Bentley`	`140 usd in charges for 1 day :-(`
`18:43.05`	`Bentley`	`no clue who it is`
`18:43.38`	`Bentley`	`i do think it has something to do with asterlink tho ... it sounds so familiar`
`18:44.23`	`justinu`	`jovies are out in force today`
`18:48.10`	`wunderkin`	`Bentley, i think so, try logging into your account and see if there is a charge there?`
`18:48.43`	`Lostfrog`	`jovies?`
`18:48.48`	`Lostfrog`	`Kids?`
`18:48.56`	`justinu`	`jehovah's witnesses`
`18:48.59`	`Qwell`	`I doubt it's asterlink. They actually have a real number (877-asterlink)`
`18:49.49`	`Qwell`	`call Allison, and ask who she recorded "Toll Free Services" for. :p`
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`18:55.39`	`Lostfrog`	`If Allison's number was public, she would never get any work done.`
`18:55.49`	`IronHelix`	`hehe`
`18:56.11`	`Lostfrog`	`People would be calling up and saying "You are cute!"`
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`18:56.44`	`justinu`	`i'd like to have majel barett record my prompts`
`18:57.57`	`Corydon76-home`	`justinu: heh, they hit me up, too`
`18:58.06`	`IronHelix`	`haha that would be awesome`
`18:58.11`	`Corydon76-home`	`Cute boy, but I was in my bathrobe at the time`
`18:58.11`	`justinu`	`for some reason they don't come to my house`
`18:58.17`	`marcus2`	`is anything here using z-plex channel banks?`
`18:58.30`	`Corydon76-home`	`marcus2: do you like CallerID?`
`18:58.31`	`justinu`	`i dunno if it's the vodka bottles strewn about in front, or the "no soliciting" sign`
`18:58.41`	`marcus2`	`uh, yes, callerid is good`
`18:58.52`	`Corydon76-home`	`marcus2: that's a good reason not to use the Zplex`
`18:58.59`	`marcus2`	`oh, that figures`
`18:59.21`	`marcus2`	`i figured there must be a reason the damn things are so cheap`
`18:59.55`	`Corydon76-home`	`Yeah, there's a reason why 1) they're cheap, 2) they're available, and 3) nobody wants them`
`19:00.16`	`justinu`	`heh`
`19:00.19`	`Corydon76-home`	`and 4) they're no longer supported by the company that made them`
`19:00.27`	`marcus2`	`nice`
`19:00.37`	`justinu`	`boy, that was really strange`
`19:00.48`	`Corydon76-home`	`even though zhone has a policy on their site which says that they support their products for life`
`19:00.54`	`justinu`	`i had to reformat the filesystem on my ip501 to get it to accept changes to server.2`
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`19:01.13`	`marcus2`	`so a newbridge/mainstreet should do cid, right?`
`19:01.13`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`whee!`
`19:01.28`	`Corydon76-home`	`Most channel banks will do callerid`
`19:01.40`	`Corydon76-home`	`Even the CAC-1 will do callerid`
`19:02.26`	`marcus2`	`well therre are lots of 3624s on ebay`
`19:02.29`	`marcus2`	`so i guesss i will get one of them`
`19:03.04`	`marcus2`	`$500 vs $150 kind sux tho =D`
`19:03.33`	`Corydon76-home`	`Why are you getting a channel bank at all?`
`19:03.52`	`marcus2`	`we have a bunch of analog devices around the officea`
`19:04.00`	`marcus2`	`and an extra port on our te410p`
`19:04.00`	`Corydon76-home`	`Ah...`
`19:04.10`	`marcus2`	`so i figured this would be the simplest way to get them all into the asterisk system`
`19:04.19`	`Corydon76-home`	`True enough`
`19:04.29`	`marcus2`	`faxes, conference phones, modems`
`19:04.40`	`marcus2`	`i'm curious to see how well modems work going thru asterisk`
`19:04.55`	`marcus2`	`(the asterisk server has a PRI to the PSTN)`
`19:05.05`	`justinu`	`that should work fine`
`19:05.39`	`marcus2`	`i'm going to try it over a PAP2 next week =D`
`19:06.37`	`Corydon76-home`	`You might have wide varied success with fax going over SIP devices`
`19:06.50`	`marcus2`	`yeah, i kind of figured`
`19:06.50`	`Corydon76-home`	`It introduces a measure of latency`
`19:07.01`	`marcus2`	`thats another reason i wanted to get a channel bank instead of a bunch of ATAs`
`19:07.03`	`Corydon76-home`	`Some faxes work fine. Other puke quickly`
`19:07.28`	`Corydon76-home`	`and it's fax model dependent`
`19:07.29`	`justinu`	`do any ITSPs (like broadvoice) support t38?`
`19:07.54`	`Corydon76-home`	`Asterisk's support for t.38 is in the alpha stages`
`19:08.05`	`Corydon76-home`	`and it's not distributed with Asterisk`
`19:08.19`	`justinu`	`but if you were using an ITSP that supported t38 for pstn gateway, wouldn't asterisk just pass it thru?`
`19:08.23`	`justinu`	`or does it not work like that`
`19:08.26`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`My faxes DIE horribly on a channel bank on one port, PRI on the other.... go figure`
`19:08.37`	`Corydon76-home`	`Asterisk is not a SIP proxy`
`19:08.48`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Tip from my side : Get analog lines and save yourself a LOT of pain....`
`19:08.50`	`justinu`	`i know`
`19:09.09`	`justinu`	`i guess what I'm asking is t38 run over RTP?`
`19:09.10`	`Corydon76-home`	`Only a proxy blindly passes packets`
`19:09.11`	`marcus2`	`fender; that sucks, damn`
`19:09.30`	`Corydon76-home`	`justinu: if the call path is through Asterisk, then it will not pass`
`19:09.39`	`justinu`	`because if so, then why wouldn't asterisk pass it, like it can pass g729 without a license`
`19:10.39`	`IronHelix`	`any major problems reported with almost beta GXP firmware .13?`
`19:10.44`	`Corydon76-home`	`because Asterisk can blindly pass audio data because it knows that is audio data`
`19:10.46`	`IronHelix`	`(for grandstream gxp2000)`
`19:11.03`	`Corydon76-home`	`It doesn't (yet) have that same knowledge of t.38`
`19:11.11`	`justinu`	`Corydon76-home: ok, so then t38 is not just another codec`
`19:11.21`	`justinu`	`i need to read about t38... haven't gotten that far yet`
`19:11.58`	`justinu`	`anyone have a preference for SoHo DSL.... Covad or Speakeasy?`
`19:12.34`	`Corydon76-home`	`We prefer Butlet`
`19:12.39`	`Corydon76-home`	`Butler, rather`
`19:13.16`	`Corydon76-home`	`There's nothing quite like calling tech support and getting Bill Butler on the line`
`19:14.06`	`justinu`	`don't think they offer service in my area :(`
`19:14.29`	`Corydon76-home`	`Go with a local company, if you can`
`19:14.46`	`justinu`	`tried both SBC and Time Warner... they suck`
`19:15.11`	`Corydon76-home`	`Butler.net has this tech-friendly policy... "It's your line; do whatever the hell you want with it."`
`19:15.29`	`Corydon76-home`	`No bandwidth charges, ever.`
`19:16.06`	`justinu`	`i wish i could find some local company that provides DSL over SBC loops`
`19:16.14`	`Corydon76-home`	`and control over your reverse DNS`
`19:16.20`	`justinu`	`that's nice`
`19:16.26`	`SkramX`	`Yeah`
`19:16.35`	`Corydon76-home`	`Yep, we have a /27 from Butler`
`19:16.56`	`justinu`	`you'd think it would be easy to get good broadband in the 2nd biggest city in the USA`
`19:16.59`	`justinu`	`but no`
`19:17.17`	`Corydon76-home`	`15.238.241.205.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer dot15.vcch01.springfield.tn.us.vcch.net.`
`19:18.05`	`justinu`	`the best I can find is speakeasy... 6.0/768k for $105/mo`
`19:18.11`	`SkramX`	`Erg`
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`19:18.31`	`justinu`	`covad is about the same, but they only offer 3.0/768 on dedicated (no POTS) line`
`19:19.06`	`SkramX`	`why dont you go with a colo box`
`19:19.16`	`justinu`	`need phone service at home :)`
`19:19.28`	`justinu`	`i have 2 colo boxes`
`19:20.36`	`Corydon76-home`	`Ah, you need a PRI at home... ;-)`
`19:20.45`	`Corydon76-home`	`4/19/1 split`
`19:20.53`	`justinu`	`i wouldn't mind that`
`19:21.00`	`justinu`	`but now we're talking 500/mo or so`
`19:21.18`	`Corydon76-home`	`Yeah, but... it's a PRI, with DID... ;-)`
`19:21.32`	`Corydon76-home`	`and autoforwarding according to YOUR rules`
`19:21.40`	`justinu`	`i wonder if i could expense that at work`
`19:21.52`	`Corydon76-home`	`Heh`
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`19:22.42`	`Corydon76-home`	`It means you can hand out a single number and forward based upon callerid... these customers get to my cell... these customers don't...`
`19:23.21`	`justinu`	`i should be able to do that with level3 too... LNP my home number to them, and have them be the PSTN gateway`
`19:23.30`	`justinu`	`i've just finished interop tests with them`
`19:24.14`	`justinu`	`i just need good reliable IP service here`
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`19:24.40`	`kink0`	`good noon`
`19:24.48`	`Corydon76-home`	`Eh, that's what a PRI with data service is for... ;-)`
`19:25.06`	`justinu`	`i'm in this anti-RBOC mood lately`
`19:25.18`	`Corydon76-home`	`That's a mood?`
`19:25.19`	`JonR800`	`justinu: i use LBDSL. they're pretty good`
`19:25.23`	`kink0`	`how is M20 connection and control channel (modem ussing serial) and voice ussing sound card ?`
`19:25.41`	`JonR800`	`justinu: you're just stuck with PPPoE like covad.. where as I believe speakeasy is DHCP`
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`19:25.58`	`Corydon76-home`	`I thought speakeasy was static IP`
`19:26.02`	`justinu`	`i didn't know covad was pppoe`
`19:26.08`	`JonR800`	`sorry.. static`
`19:26.09`	`zerocoded`	`hi Ev1`
`19:26.17`	`justinu`	`speakeasy offers static or dynamic`
`19:26.21`	`JonR800`	`i think it depends on the plan`
`19:26.22`	`hhoffman`	`hi, in the zaptel.init script what is the check for [ "${TELEPHONY}" = "yes" ] \|\| exit 0 ?`
`19:26.35`	`hhoffman`	`I don't see $TELEPHONY getting set anywhere`
`19:26.58`	`Corydon76-home`	`hhoffman: probably in the config file`
`19:27.09`	`Corydon76-home`	`like /etc/sysconfig/zaptel or similar`
`19:27.11`	`zerocoded`	`does anyone knows a site to download asterisk open source`
`19:27.24`	`Corydon76-home`	`ftp.digium.com ?`
`19:27.25`	`hhoffman`	`ah! so you have to create a sysconfig file?`
`19:27.34`	`Corydon76-home`	`hhoffman: dunno, I'm guessing`
`19:27.36`	`justinu`	`jonr800: thanks for the lbdsl tip`
`19:27.38`	`zerocoded`	`k tks`
`19:27.39`	`justinu`	`looking now`
`19:27.40`	`hhoffman`	`Corydon76-home: Thanks, that's prolly it`
`19:27.41`	`Corydon76-home`	`hhoffman: I use the mandrake scripts`
`19:28.00`	`JonR800`	`justinu: np.. their prices are better than speakeasy or covad.. they also get great reviews on broadbandreports.com`
`19:28.01`	`hhoffman`	`ah, ok. I just pulled down the lastest source from asterisk`
`19:28.05`	`justinu`	`lbdsl has 6.0/768k service (dry line) for $99.95`
`19:28.12`	`justinu`	`1static ip`
`19:28.32`	`Corydon76-home`	`I still want fiber to the curb`
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`19:28.46`	`justinu`	`yeah, some bastard here is bragging about 30m/10m service`
`19:29.12`	`zerocoded`	`hhoffman which site u used i don't see any downloads on digium`
`19:29.25`	`JonR800`	`my county is going to offer community Wifi.. that should be good for a blazing 256kbps ;)`
`19:29.48`	`hhoffman`	`zerocoded: I think asterisk.org... 1sec`
`19:29.49`	`justinu`	`that's enough to run a few voip calls on`
`19:29.58`	`justinu`	`ditch the cell phones`
`19:29.59`	`hhoffman`	`yeah, on asterisk.org`
`19:30.15`	`JonR800`	`true`
`19:30.15`	`hhoffman`	`I just grabbed the 1.2 tarballs`
`19:30.28`	`Corydon76-home`	`That reminds me... butler.net is now offering fiber to the curb in Davidson County, TN`
`19:30.42`	`zerocoded`	`tks again`
`19:30.43`	`zerocoded`	`:)`
`19:30.54`	`Corydon76-home`	`No monthly fee; pay only for bandwidth`
`19:31.04`	`justinu`	`LBDSL is a bit steep on install charges`
`19:31.13`	`justinu`	`$225 to run the loop`
`19:35.54`	`kink0`	`has anyone connected a GSM terminal to RS232 and soundcard ussing Asterisk to GSM voIP termination ?`
`19:36.44`	`hhoffman`	`is libpri necessary if you are not using ISDN cards?`
`19:37.15`	`Corydon76-home`	`zaptel/libpri are not necessary if you are not using Digium cards`
`19:38.03`	`hhoffman`	`well, I have a X100P card`
`19:39.03`	`hhoffman`	`my understanding is that I can use it to interface to my POTS line?`
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`19:42.47`	`justinu`	`lbdsl will allow me to modify the reverse dns too, neat`
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`19:47.30`	`JonR800`	`justinu: the install charges change from time to time.. when i signed up it was $225.. then the next week it was $150`
`19:48.24`	`justinu`	`that would have pissed me off`
`19:49.02`	`JonR800`	`i was a little pissed, especially because i could have easily waited a week. ahh well.. it's a covad rebate anyways.`
`19:50.57`	`JonR800`	`it looks like speakeasy charges $200 for install + modem.. but they have a $99 rebate on the modem`
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`19:56.17`	`Pegger`	`any one here cisco phone?`
`19:56.24`	`Knab`	`i'm looking for some good uptodate * documentation any suggestions?`
`19:56.48`	`Knab`	`Pegger no but i have polycoms which are ment to be similar`
`19:56.55`	`hhoffman`	`do you need a sound card for asterisk?`
`19:57.01`	`stbain`	`hhoffman: no`
`19:57.11`	`stbain`	`Knab: asteriskdocs.org has a great book`
`19:57.11`	`Pegger`	`Knab how are they similar`
`19:57.14`	`hhoffman`	`ok, cool`
`19:57.19`	`hhoffman`	`stbain: thx`
`19:57.20`	`JonR800`	`Knab: the sample configs, voip-info.org`
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`19:58.37`	`Knab`	`pegger good question i've not had cisco phones but many ppl have said they are similar, ask a question and if it makes sence i'll answer if not i'll say so`
`19:59.07`	`zerocoded`	`knab this is the oriely book posted in deguim http://www.asteriskdocs.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=11`
`19:59.25`	`Knab`	`stbain is that an electronic or physical book?`
`19:59.26`	`JonR800`	`i believe provisioning and the browser are different on the polycom / cisco`
`19:59.50`	`zerocoded`	`knab: it is a pdf book`
`19:59.56`	`Pegger`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:00.22`	`Knab`	`sweet and it's up-to-date? zerocoded`
`20:00.24`	`JonR800`	`haha that too, sorry i assumed we were talking SIP`
`20:01.05`	`Knab`	`ahh i asumed sip too`
`20:01.09`	`zerocoded`	`yes`
`20:01.27`	`stbain`	`Knab: soon to be available in dead tree version, but personally I downloaded the book and read it in my PDF viewr`
`20:02.00`	`Knab`	`i don't deal with propriotory protocals except iax`
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`20:02.04`	`zerocoded`	`another good site is http://users.telenet.be/Asterisk-PBX/InstallAsterisk.htm`
`20:03.08`	`zerocoded`	`i have rehat desktop version 7 is it good for asterisk`
`20:03.17`	`zerocoded`	`or do i need server`
`20:04.19`	`Knab`	`stbain if it looks any good i'll probably print it`
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`20:05.15`	`stbain`	`IAX... proprietary?`
`20:05.29`	`IronHelix`	`no`
`20:05.40`	`IronHelix`	`protocol is open and somewhat documented`
`20:05.56`	`Knab`	`well it's digium`
`20:06.19`	`IronHelix`	`anybody that wants to can write one without royalty at least`
`20:06.23`	`Knab`	`mmm maby i'm not using the dictionary definition of the word`
`20:06.29`	`IronHelix`	`i dont think theres an official RFC/ISO standard yet`
`20:06.53`	`mog_home`	`its in the making though`
`20:07.52`	`stbain`	`I think one of the mailing list messages says it best: it's open and documented in in chan_iax2.c, iax.c,`
`20:07.52`	`stbain`	`iax-parser.c, iax2.h, etc -- it just has been in a language other than`
`20:07.52`	`stbain`	`English.`
`20:08.41`	`Knab`	`can i show my ignorance a bit and ask quickly about realtime . I had been using befor this came along and wondering how it changes things`
`20:09.12`	`adelas`	`someone know the shortcut keys for resetting the cisco 7960`
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`20:11.12`	`stbain`	`adelas: if I remember correctly, try *#`
`20:11.40`	`stbain`	`been a few years, though`
`20:14.10`	`adelas`	`not it`
`20:15.16`	`caio1982`	`did the guys from astertest.com get some code merged into the mainline asterisk's? (to be specific, the sip jitter buffer)`
`20:15.23`	`zerocoded`	`k peaceall login off :)`
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`20:16.42`	`stbain`	`adelas: how about #*`
`20:16.43`	`stbain`	`?`
`20:17.34`	`adelas`	`nope`
`20:17.47`	`adelas`	`i think it was somethign wit * and # but also the setting button`
`20:22.51`	`Vco`	`I'm sorry, but that is a pretty lams part message`
`20:22.54`	`Vco`	`lame`
`20:22.55`	`Vco`	`even`
`20:23.36`	`stbain`	`what was it?`
`20:23.37`	`Lostfrog`	`Hey... maybe he is a treker.`
`20:23.42`	`stbain`	`I have joins/parts turned off`
`20:23.49`	`Vco`	`IronHelix has quit IRC (""Chocolate is a serious thing."��---Deanna Troi")`
`20:25.17`	`stbain`	`adelas: ok... last try then I give up... #`
`20:25.37`	`hhoffman`	`is asterisk going to have trouble running on a PII?`
`20:26.10`	`Vco`	`with only a couple of users...no`
`20:26.15`	`Vco`	`coulple/few`
`20:26.19`	`Vco`	`couple even`
`20:26.22`	`stbain`	`hhoffman: I'm running it on an iMac G3 266MHz`
`20:26.24`	`Vco`	`jeeez`
`20:26.29`	`Vco`	`i need coffee`
`20:26.40`	`hhoffman`	`stbain: cool`
`20:27.58`	`Lostfrog`	`a PII should work find depending on load.`
`20:28.53`	`dalabera`	`I'll say a PII will work only for testing purposes, and a load less than 5 sip phones...`
`20:29.14`	`stbain`	`I installed in on my iMac to test dialplans out using kphone as a SIP client. Seems to run fine for what I need it for.`
`20:29.18`	`Vco`	`it's fine for a home server, single fxo, voicemail etc etc`
`20:29.24`	`Lostfrog`	`Depends on codec translation mostly.`
`20:29.38`	`Vco`	`<-what he said`
`20:29.39`	`Lostfrog`	`If all the phones are running gsm and your service provider runs gsm..`
`20:29.58`	`Vco`	`^ what he said rather`
`20:32.15`	`stbain`	`http://pastebin.ca/28485 <--- nice little asterisk system I'm ordering to replace my brother-in-law's aging voicemail system at his office`
`20:32.27`	`stbain`	`just need a TDM04B`
`20:35.41`	`adelas`	`no good`
`20:37.58`	`hhoffman`	`yeah, I'll be using it as a home system, for voicemail and the like`
`20:39.38`	`Pegger`	`dont you love it when the amount that you spend on hardware will equal the amount you saved once the hardware is obsoleate`
`20:39.49`	`hhoffman`	`ha!`
`20:40.37`	`stbain`	`adelas: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/phones/ps379/products_qanda_item09186a00800a6763.shtml#q25`
`20:41.15`	`stbain`	`adelas: and.... http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/phones/ps379/products_qanda_item09186a00800a6763.shtml#q16`
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`21:09.37`	`hhrp`	`hi`
`21:09.54`	`hhrp`	`why cant i conference two calls together?`
`21:10.12`	`hhrp`	`when i press flash it only switches in between the calls`
`21:10.44`	`hhrp`	`is there any additional parameters that i need to put in config files?`
`21:12.53`	`Math[laptop]`	`hhrp: what hardware are you using?`
`21:13.46`	`hhrp`	`just 3 ata 186`
`21:13.53`	`hhrp`	`connected to asterisk via sip`
`21:14.05`	`hhrp`	`i cant get into a conference call at all`
`21:14.30`	`Qwell`	`That's the trouble with analog telephony`
`21:14.43`	`hhrp`	`hmm?`
`21:14.55`	`Qwell`	`call waiting is just that`
`21:15.05`	`Qwell`	`if you have two calls, one call is always waiting`
`21:15.17`	`hhrp`	`yes`
`21:15.33`	`Math[laptop]`	`Qwell: well mediatrixes can conference them`
`21:15.37`	`hhrp`	`but usually you can press flash quick - twice and get calls together`
`21:15.45`	`Math[laptop]`	`it depends onthe ata`
`21:15.48`	`Qwell`	`hhrp: if its supported`
`21:15.52`	`konfuzed`	`hhrp: only if you have two active channels`
`21:16.00`	`hhrp`	`ok i gotta check ata settings then`
`21:16.02`	`konfuzed`	`1 channel with two calls`
`21:16.09`	`konfuzed`	`requires one is always on hold`
`21:16.16`	`hhrp`	`makes sense`
`21:16.33`	`Lostfrog`	`Or use meetme.`
`21:16.38`	`hhrp`	`3 way calling is not supported by ata`
`21:16.38`	`konfuzed`	`so how many lines do you have`
`21:16.39`	`hhrp`	`i guess`
`21:16.50`	`konfuzed`	`which side of the ata`
`21:16.52`	`hhrp`	`i got 2 ports on ata`
`21:16.55`	`hhrp`	`using one`
`21:16.58`	`konfuzed`	`how many phone lines`
`21:17.01`	`hhrp`	`2 way works`
`21:17.04`	`hhrp`	`3 way doesnt`
`21:18.18`	`konfuzed`	`there should be a channel for studying the art of the well formed question`
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`21:18.25`	`hhrp`	`altho`
`21:18.34`	`Qwell`	`~google how to ask questions`
`21:18.39`	`hhrp`	`i believe i did it once when i was on another h323 gw`
`21:18.42`	`hhrp`	`thru ata`
`21:18.45`	`kink0`	`somebody has success with siemens M20 or similar configuration where use analog sound wires plus data cable for AT commands ?`
`21:18.47`	`hhrp`	`i was able to do 3 way`
`21:18.50`	`Qwell`	`http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html`
`21:19.02`	`Qwell`	`konfuzed: something like that?`
`21:20.10`	`hhrp`	`funny website`
`21:20.17`	`Qwell`	`not meant to be funny`
`21:20.29`	`konfuzed`	`hhrp: not menat to be funny`
`21:20.34`	`konfuzed`	`but too much reading`
`21:20.41`	`konfuzed`	`that s very close`
`21:20.42`	`Qwell`	`http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#rtfm`
`21:20.52`	`Lostfrog`	`Nice article.`
`21:21.11`	`konfuzed`	`close enough that I still might require callers to read it befor eI answer any oftheir questions`
`21:21.18`	`konfuzed`	`;^)`
`21:21.48`	`konfuzed`	`this page is too discussional`
`21:22.03`	`konfuzed`	`but i suppose covers more generic case scenarios`
`21:22.10`	`Lostfrog`	`I like the 'Dealing with rudeness' chapter.`
`21:22.40`	`konfuzed`	`seriously I want to do a tutorial for "How to make the most out of your Tech Support Call"`
`21:22.51`	`konfuzed`	`a - only speak when spoken to`
`21:23.05`	`konfuzed`	`b - only answer the questions you were asked`
`21:23.12`	`Qwell`	`read: how to be tech supports bitch`
`21:23.24`	`konfuzed`	`c - don't waste any bodies time with your story of what went went wrong`
`21:23.34`	`konfuzed`	`d - just read the damn error message please`
`21:23.42`	`Qwell`	`I disagree with all of those. :P`
`21:23.43`	`konfuzed`	`e - the whole message`
`21:23.48`	`IronHelix`	`sadly- the people that will read it are mostly the people that wont be calling tech support`
`21:23.53`	`konfuzed`	`haha`
`21:23.57`	`hhrp`	`yea nice`
`21:23.59`	`hhrp`	`brbr`
`21:24.02`	`konfuzed`	`I play it in the hold me music`
`21:24.03`	`konfuzed`	`;^)`
`21:24.05`	`Qwell`	`a - when I speak, support had better be listening`
`21:24.13`	`Lostfrog`	`There has to be a reciprocal list.`
`21:24.14`	`Qwell`	`b - don't ask me stupid freaking questions`
`21:24.19`	`Qwell`	`Lostfrog: ^`
`21:24.32`	`IronHelix`	`b. dont tell me to reboot after i already have told you that i just finished rebooting`
`21:24.34`	`Qwell`	`c - don't waste my time by asking if I've rebooted my router`
`21:24.56`	`Qwell`	`d - I'll tell YOU what the error MEANS. You probably won't understand it anyhow.`
`21:25.00`	`Lostfrog`	`d - don't decide halfway through the converstation that you don't support my OS.`
`21:25.02`	`Qwell`	`e - and I'll even repeat it for you`
`21:25.06`	`tzanger`	`Qwell: you need to remember that you are not within the 95% of people whom these things ARE necessary`
`21:25.11`	`tzanger`	`which is why I like nufone`
`21:25.13`	`konfuzed`	`T - if you're tech just say so and we'll pass you to a real tech instead of front line support`
`21:25.15`	`konfuzed`	`;^)`
`21:25.19`	`Qwell`	`konfuzed: :P`
`21:25.22`	`tzanger`	`their lack of support or very light support turns those kinds of people away`
`21:25.35`	`tzanger`	`and then I pin down Shido or Jerjer and get to the heart of the matter`
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`21:25.45`	`tzanger`	`which, unfortunately for me, seems to be my end 100% of the time so far :-)`
`21:25.48`	`IronHelix`	`kon- the problem is that you'll get a bunch of people that just installed AOL all by themself and think that means they're tech`
`21:25.55`	`Lostfrog`	`Yeah.. in my experience.. the front line grunts get pissed when you ask for a "real tech."`
`21:25.59`	`cianhughes`	`anyone here used one of these new Nokia N* series phones with WLAN`
`21:26.13`	`konfuzed`	`then I have three tech questions to screen them with`
`21:26.18`	`Qwell`	`Lostfrog: and 90% of the time, they refuse to hand you off, even if you use big words that they've never heard`
`21:26.28`	`Lostfrog`	`Qwell: correct.`
`21:26.31`	`Qwell`	`okay, one time...`
`21:26.36`	`Qwell`	`I argued with a first level tech...`
`21:26.46`	`Qwell`	`about how many bits are in a byte`
`21:26.49`	`Lostfrog`	`lol`
`21:26.49`	`IronHelix`	`lol`
`21:26.55`	`Lostfrog`	`Depends on the machine, Qwell.`
`21:26.57`	`Qwell`	`he said 1028 bytes in a bit.`
`21:27.00`	`Lostfrog`	`OMFG.`
`21:27.05`	`Qwell`	`yeah`
`21:27.06`	`konfuzed`	`qwell its all in how you ask`
`21:27.10`	`IronHelix`	`im pretty sure thats wrong no matter what machine you're on`
`21:27.17`	`konfuzed`	`remember well formed questions`
`21:27.22`	`Lostfrog`	`There were 7 and 10 bit machines.`
`21:27.29`	`Lostfrog`	`not 1028.`
`21:27.30`	`IronHelix`	`konfused- what three questions do you use`
`21:27.34`	`konfuzed`	`I'll take one stab at general support and then call back`
`21:27.37`	`Qwell`	`Lostfrog: no, see...here's the problem`
`21:27.39`	`konfuzed`	`first thing out of my mouth`
`21:27.39`	`cianhughes`	`my ISP support just hangs up if they don't know what you're on about`
`21:27.43`	`Qwell`	`Lostfrog: bytes in a bit. not the other way around`
`21:27.46`	`konfuzed`	`I need to spek to your supervisor`
`21:27.56`	`konfuzed`	`no you cant help me only your supervisor can`
`21:28.14`	`Lostfrog`	`Yes, I noticed that Qwell.`
`21:28.32`	`Qwell`	`konfuzed: been there, done that...hundreds of times`
`21:28.41`	`konfuzed`	`a - whats your root password`
`21:29.05`	`Lostfrog`	`My answer to 'a' would be 'Fuck you!'`
`21:29.10`	`IronHelix`	`same`
`21:29.19`	`Qwell`	`I've pretty much mastered getting to level 2, be it support, billing, whatever`
`21:29.19`	`konfuzed`	`then your a tech`
`21:29.24`	`konfuzed`	`non techs go uh`
`21:29.30`	`konfuzed`	`I don no`
`21:29.38`	`konfuzed`	`or they actually tell you`
`21:29.41`	`IronHelix`	`what about questions b and c`
`21:29.51`	`Qwell`	`"I need to speak to your supervisor." "Well, I need to find out what the problem is first." "The problem, is that I don't want to start yelling at you - you haven't been trained for my calls."`
`21:30.21`	`Lostfrog`	`I hate people reading off of a troubleshooting flowchart. :(`
`21:30.28`	`IronHelix`	`yeah`
`21:30.40`	`konfuzed`	`b - perhaps you would like to reinstall your OS`
`21:30.44`	`cianhughes`	`"have you tried reformatting your hard drive and reinstalling the OS"`
`21:31.02`	`IronHelix`	`if you have never even seen a box running the system you are trying to help me with, don't pretend to be able to help me`
`21:31.07`	`Lostfrog`	`konfuzed: ok.. let me grab my backup disk..`
`21:31.09`	`konfuzed`	`its sad how many supposedly technical people respond with ok how do we do that`
`21:31.17`	`Lostfrog`	`1 minute later.. ok.. I reinstalled the OS.`
`21:31.22`	`tecnico`	`Has anybody seen a provider that does billing increments of 1sec or 6sec or even 30sec to Mexico ? It seems that Mexico is always billed at a 60sec. increments on all the providers I've seen.`
`21:31.22`	`IronHelix`	`hehe`
`21:31.33`	`Qwell`	`it's funny when they ask me to restart my computer`
`21:31.40`	`Qwell`	`3 seconds later "okay, done"`
`21:31.50`	`Lostfrog`	`Qwell: same here.. especially with ISPs`
`21:31.51`	`Qwell`	`"okay, tell me when it's back up." "...it is."`
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`21:32.14`	`Lostfrog`	`Comcast asked me to reboot 5 times last week.`
`21:32.29`	`Lostfrog`	`I didn't reboot once, even though I was using windoze.`
`21:32.45`	`Qwell`	`meh...when you're using Windows, that always solves the problem`
`21:32.59`	`Lostfrog`	`Not when you can just disable and enable the NIC.`
`21:33.24`	`IronHelix`	`or ipconfig /release ipconfig /renew`
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`21:33.34`	`Lostfrog`	`That sometimes doesn't help, IronHelix.`
`21:33.41`	`IronHelix`	`doesnt flush arp and dns`
`21:33.45`	`IronHelix`	`but works 90% of the time`
`21:34.28`	`Lostfrog`	`windoze doesn't cache dns.`
`21:34.34`	`IronHelix`	`sure it does`
`21:34.38`	`IronHelix`	`clear with ipconfig /flushdns`
`21:35.01`	`IronHelix`	`at least 2k does`
`21:35.06`	`IronHelix`	`dunno about 98 or xp`
`21:35.10`	`Lostfrog`	`wow.. it does..`
`21:35.16`	`Lostfrog`	`Everything I've read said it doesn't.`
`21:35.19`	`denon`	`2k,2k3 and XP do`
`21:35.25`	`denon`	`that's the "DNS CLient" service`
`21:35.28`	`konfuzed`	`c - Oh yeah when did you get your MCSE ?`
`21:35.30`	`denon`	`if you stop it, the caching will stop as well`
`21:35.43`	`Lostfrog`	`c - Why would I want an MCSE?`
`21:35.47`	`konfuzed`	`that one gets the best answers`
`21:35.56`	`konfuzed`	`they answer so seriously`
`21:36.01`	`IronHelix`	`haha`
`21:36.10`	`konfuzed`	`well I graduated top of my class`
`21:36.13`	`konfuzed`	`really`
`21:36.22`	`konfuzed`	`I taught the fucken class`
`21:36.24`	`Qwell`	`"of how many?" "well...3"`
`21:36.28`	`konfuzed`	`when they fiunally let me in any way`
`21:36.55`	`Lostfrog`	`Just ask what CompTIA certifications they have.`
`21:37.00`	`IronHelix`	`lol`
`21:37.05`	`konfuzed`	`I hate it when people ask me how I got started`
`21:37.36`	`IronHelix`	`if they say A+ without an excuse/explanation...`
`21:37.37`	`Lostfrog`	`Well.. we didn't ask.`
`21:37.41`	`konfuzed`	`grade 4 summer school programming basic sounds so 19th century`
`21:38.00`	`Qwell`	`konfuzed: newb :P`
`21:38.00`	`Lostfrog`	`Network+,Linux+`
`21:38.01`	`konfuzed`	`i quit programming before I finsihed high school`
`21:38.19`	`Lostfrog`	`<-- self plug.`
`21:38.24`	`IronHelix`	`lol`
`21:38.54`	`konfuzed`	`programing is too focused just like graphics development`
`21:39.23`	`mog_home`	`?!?!`
`21:39.41`	`Qwell`	`graphics = crap, programming = everything else`
`21:39.43`	`konfuzed`	`I was sort of like no way I dont want to spend 12 hr day 6 days a week doing nothin but sitting in ffront of a screen programming or graphics.`
`21:39.58`	`konfuzed`	`now I spend 10 hours doing a variety of things`
`21:40.00`	`konfuzed`	`;^)`
`21:40.46`	`konfuzed`	`its the keep ahead of the curve part that really bothered me I suppose`
`21:40.56`	`Lostfrog`	`I'm lucky if I spend 10 hours of my day conscious.`
`21:41.08`	`konfuzed`	`at the time I couldnt even find a course for C programming`
`21:41.22`	`konfuzed`	`it was pathetic`
`21:41.22`	`Qwell`	`courses...psh`
`21:41.29`	`Lostfrog`	`main() {printf("Hello World\n");}`
`21:42.00`	`konfuzed`	`yeah I prefer a human feedback dynamic in problem solving`
`21:42.12`	`konfuzed`	`im just not solitary enough`
`21:43.08`	`konfuzed`	`yeah Ive gotr the original Kernigan and Ritchie books in my dusty mini library`
`21:43.17`	`Lostfrog`	`I wonder how long it would take me to write that program in assembly..`
`21:43.17`	`Qwell`	`books...psh`
`21:43.24`	`Qwell`	`I learned to code by...coding. :p`
`21:43.44`	`Qwell`	`(of course, I don't know shit for terms, but hey)`
`21:44.06`	`konfuzed`	`Qwell: I will only beat my head against the wall for so long before I start checkin in with others`
`21:44.28`	`konfuzed`	`mini funny story`
`21:44.31`	`*** join/#asterisk darby_t (i=darby_t@dku247.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl)`
`21:44.49`	`kink0`	`nobody use Asterisk with GSM termination ?`
`21:45.20`	`konfuzed`	`I had a Vic-20 and did my grade 7 science project on it. ascii picture of police car with pokes for sirens and every iteration the ascii characterrs printed one space to the left`
`21:45.34`	`Lostfrog`	`Lots of people use GSM, kink0.`
`21:45.34`	`konfuzed`	`and presto a police car drove across the screen`
`21:45.42`	`konfuzed`	`what a joke`
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`21:46.00`	`kink0`	`Lostfrog, yes, but have connected Asterisk to GSM terminals ?`
`21:46.04`	`jskcr\|770`	`hy all`
`21:46.31`	`konfuzed`	`go to set it up and couldnt get the tv and the stupid converter box to co-operate and show the vic-20 display`
`21:46.36`	`konfuzed`	`stupid technology`
`21:46.52`	`kink0`	`I try to found documents about how-to ( like the doc about M20 that is in the Asterisk docs site )`
`21:47.25`	`konfuzed`	`;^)`
`21:47.41`	`konfuzed`	`hey kid have you got the power plugged in`
`21:47.47`	`konfuzed`	`key kid is that on channel 3 or 4`
`21:47.49`	`konfuzed`	`;^)`
`21:47.57`	`konfuzed`	`anyway`
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`21:48.11`	`konfuzed`	`maybe I can get *@Home on my vis-20`
`21:48.17`	`konfuzed`	`;^)`
`21:48.57`	`konfuzed`	`ltr`
`21:49.38`	`stbain`	`kink0: anything pertinent on this page: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/How+to+connect+VoIP+GSM+gateway+to+Asterisk+PBX`
`21:50.02`	`*** join/#asterisk Igbothom_III (n=HiltonT@static-84.217.240.220.dsl.comindico.com.au)`
`21:50.41`	`kink0`	`stbain, yes I have read that info, but this one http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+Siemens+M20`
`21:50.56`	`kink0`	`if works, avoid to use expansive GSM/POTS gateways`
`21:51.20`	`*** join/#asterisk n4y (n=tmalkut@fw.orasoft.net.pl)`
`21:52.46`	`kink0`	`and would be able , since digium has not any GSM gateway card, to connect directly GSM terminal to the PC audio devices, that can be managed by Asterisk`
`21:53.44`	`kink0`	`20 $ for a M20 plus about 20 $ for sound card, is cheap, compared with about 140$ for digium FXO plus 150$ for some GSM/POTS gateway`
`21:54.37`	`kink0`	`I pretend to use as much as possible channels, so costs are important here , may be 16 or so channels per linux box.`
`22:00.01`	`IronHelix`	`dumb q- does subscribe/hint (BLF) work at all in 1.0.9-2? it looks like it should according to voip-info... just flashed my gxp2000 to the new beta firmware and the lights stay solid on for subscriptions`
`22:00.16`	`IronHelix`	`even tho the channels are NOT active`
`22:06.57`	`IronHelix`	`nm im dumb`
`22:07.09`	`IronHelix`	`apparently you need to set incominglimit and outgoinglimit before it works right`
`22:07.13`	`IronHelix`	`(wierd)`
`22:11.03`	`delmar`	`hey everyone`
`22:11.34`	`delmar`	`well, not too much of a hangover, but a little more than usual :P`
`22:11.39`	`Igbothom_III`	`WHY DO YOU HAVE A HANGOVER???`
`22:11.55`	`Math[laptop]`	`IronHelix, incomintlimit and outgoinglimit is deprecated`
`22:12.02`	`delmar`	`well, the wine was just too good and I had to test the ENTIRE cask to make sure it wasnt faulty :P`
`22:12.28`	`Igbothom_III`	`how can "good" and "cask wine" be used in one sentence in a constructive way?`
`22:14.01`	`delmar`	`ok so just a quick and possible easy question... sip to Asterisk ===>IAX ====> RemoteAsterisk =====>voipgateway. I'm seeing all those 3389 messages (silence suppression?) all over the console of the RemoteAsterisk... whos at fault and where?`
`22:14.10`	`Qwell`	`Igbothom_III: By including the word "not"`
`22:14.22`	`Igbothom_III`	`Qwell; exactly right`
`22:14.29`	`Math[laptop]`	`delmar, the fault of the sip client?`
`22:14.42`	`delmar`	`Math[laptop] you would think huh...`
`22:15.02`	`Math[laptop]`	`well asterisk wouldn't do any silence suppression...`
`22:15.13`	`delmar`	`Math[laptop] grandstreamSIP client.. SS turned off.`
`22:15.25`	`delmar`	`and there are no messages on the other Asterisk console`
`22:15.45`	`delmar`	`wht about Firefly, does that cause those messages?`
`22:16.10`	`Qwell`	`anything that does vad needs to not use vad`
`22:16.43`	`Math[laptop]`	`either the client or the gateway, * wont use vad`
`22:17.16`	`Math[laptop]`	`and if the messages are on RemoteAsterisk, its probably the gateway`
`22:17.18`	`delmar`	`thats what i figured.`
`22:17.52`	`delmar`	`Math[laptop], ok, I might check that out a little more.. the voipprovider you think?`
`22:18.09`	`delmar`	`Math[laptop], they are a SIP gateway.`
`22:18.29`	`Math[laptop]`	`I think so`
`22:18.32`	`delmar`	`Math[laptop], so u think their gateway might be trying to do silence suppression?`
`22:19.51`	`Math[laptop]`	`or even imposing it`
`22:19.56`	`delmar`	`yep`
`22:21.17`	`delmar`	`i had wondered about that as an option. i will use a sip client that has the abiity to turn off SS, run some tests, and see what happens.. should point to them if thats the case.`
`22:21.27`	`*** join/#asterisk darby_d (i=darby_t@dlk146.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl)`
`22:23.43`	`Math[laptop]`	`delmar: do u know if there's any way of telling a sip device not to use silence suppression? (I mean, a sip option, not a device config change)`
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`22:28.06`	`Barmal`	`how can I make something like this: exten => _NXXNXXXXXX, 1, deadagi(.....php), but I need to pass to agi exten with 1 infront?`
`22:29.10`	`*** join/#asterisk zoa (n=zoa@pirus.securax.be)`
`22:30.08`	`caio-psl-onu`	`zoa: that code for sip jitter buffer and rdp is already into the asterisk's mainline or didnt went too far or what?`
`22:30.47`	`zoa`	`its not in there yet`
`22:30.54`	`zoa`	`trying to get something in before the release of 1.2 though`
`22:31.52`	`caio-psl-onu`	`zoa: does it apply for the rc1 release?`
`22:34.07`	`*** join/#asterisk shido6 (n=shido6@d221-68-216.commercial.cgocable.net)`
`22:34.57`	`Lostfrog`	`wow.. I get >800kB/s from ftp.digium.com`
`22:35.31`	`denon`	`that's on EasyNews now, isnt it?`
`22:35.53`	`*** join/#asterisk [TK]D-Fender (n=joe@66.11.164.239)`
`22:36.06`	`denon`	`oh, sorry - Bandwidth.com`
`22:36.24`	`justinu`	`does 1.2 have any support for the call diversion draft?`
`22:36.36`	`caio-psl-onu`	`zoa: anyway, the lastest code for it is on that url pointed on the phorum or there's some other place to get it?`
`22:36.52`	`justinu`	`if I dial a SIP extension, and the remote extension is forwarded to another extension, I'd like the original callers telephone to indicate the final destination`
`22:38.21`	`drumkilla`	`actually, ftp.digium.com could be eiether easynews or bandwidth`
`22:38.29`	`drumkilla`	`it's mirrored ...`
`22:38.51`	`Lostfrog`	`I wonder if I could get them to mirror some pr0n. <grin>`
`22:39.26`	`drumkilla`	`send it on over`
`22:39.56`	`Lostfrog`	`No.. you misunderstand me.. I want to d/l some pr0n.`
`22:40.02`	`drumkilla`	`lol ...`
`22:40.16`	`drumkilla`	`you said it as if you already had it :)`
`22:40.37`	`delmar`	`Math[laptop], sorry for the late response, was engrossed in some stuff on the wiki re a g729.dll for firefly, which seems like it's not going to happen since voiceage have removed the download.... so in answer to your question, i have no idea, i thought turning on/off of SS had to be done at the SIP client. Would be nice if Asterisk had some kinda .. SS=STFU option :P`
`22:40.41`	`*** join/#asterisk c0w (i=c0w@cpc1-staf1-3-0-cust86.brhm.cable.ntl.com)`
`22:40.43`	`c0w`	`hello all,`
`22:40.51`	`c0w`	`i'm looking for mark? has anyone seen him,`
`22:41.11`	`delmar`	`c0w, do you have an appointment? :P`
`22:41.23`	`c0w`	`i think so`
`22:41.30`	`c0w`	`i was asked to contact him via msn.`
`22:41.33`	`c0w`	`ahh irc`
`22:42.05`	`delmar`	`c0w, well if u have an appointment im sure he will be along soon.`
`22:42.07`	`delmar`	`:)`
`22:42.18`	`c0w`	`Can you find me on IRC when this problem is occuring so I can debug it on a live system, by the way?`
`22:42.18`	`c0w`	`Mark`
`22:42.30`	`mog_home`	`what you need marko for maybe some one here can advise`
`22:42.32`	`c0w`	`so i think its now =)`
`22:42.35`	`delmar`	`c0w, what problem?`
`22:42.50`	`c0w`	`zap channels seem to be locking`
`22:42.56`	`c0w`	`which caus asterisk to lock.`
`22:43.03`	`mog_home`	`eep`
`22:43.05`	`mog_home`	`what causes it`
`22:43.09`	`delmar`	`c0w, head? what hardware?`
`22:43.13`	`c0w`	`i get the feeling he knows what it is`
`22:43.17`	`c0w`	`dell 2850`
`22:43.23`	`mog_home`	`e1000 driver?`
`22:43.30`	`c0w`	`i disabled that`
`22:43.32`	`delmar`	`c0w, what digium hardware?`
`22:43.36`	`c0w`	`and put in a 3com`
`22:43.44`	`c0w`	`te4110p`
`22:43.50`	`c0w`	`is that right 4 port`
`22:44.06`	`delmar`	`c0w, nice.`
`22:44.15`	`c0w`	`Wildcard TE410P`
`22:44.31`	`c0w`	`i have 2 support issues open.`
`22:44.37`	`c0w`	`one for 4 cards to be firmware upgraded`
`22:44.40`	`c0w`	`and this strange one.`
`22:44.43`	`c0w`	`never seen it before.`
`22:44.49`	`delmar`	`wish i had a bloody T1 card to play with a channel bank`
`22:45.03`	`c0w`	`lol i have 8 of the quad e1 cards`
`22:45.12`	`delmar`	`c0w, damn you :P`
`22:45.19`	`c0w`	`comp pays for them.`
`22:45.23`	`delmar`	`c0w, i just want ONE T1 port :P`
`22:45.35`	`c0w`	`the one port one i had got stolen.`
`22:45.39`	`c0w`	`and they replaced it with a quad.`
`22:46.05`	`c0w`	`surely you can save up for a t1.`
`22:46.09`	`delmar`	`c0w, can't afford it with xmas coming up.. first christmas with my little girl, so i dont wanna spend to omuch so i can have a good xmas etc.`
`22:46.11`	`c0w`	`its only like �300`
`22:46.22`	`c0w`	`why do you need it but`
`22:46.31`	`c0w`	`can;t you just sip / h323 / mgcp trunk for nothing ?`
`22:46.58`	`delmar`	`c0w, i was given 2 channel banks, an adit600 with 2xFXS ports, and a T1 integrator... to play with when i get a T1 one day.`
`22:47.02`	`*** join/#asterisk christo (n=chris@brezhnev.spiration.co.uk)`
`22:47.07`	`christo`	`hi all`
`22:47.23`	`c0w`	`i'm sure i saw cheap t1 cards somewhere.`
`22:47.25`	`delmar`	`c0w, and it would make a good phone system here in my little home/office.`
`22:47.51`	`fugitivo`	`what echocan should i use? kb1 or mg2?`
`22:48.19`	`delmar`	`c0w, they are like US$500 or so, our exchange rate is about .65 with visa's commission and exchange charges.. so thats like NZ$770+shipping.. new.`
`22:48.32`	`c0w`	`w0000`
`22:48.45`	`c0w`	`can't you get them in NZ for cheaper than that. sounds very expensive.`
`22:48.49`	`delmar`	`c0w, also be good experience for me to get to know *+channelbank`
`22:48.59`	`Lostfrog`	`no ebay, delmar?`
`22:49.07`	`zoa`	`caio-psl-onu: you cant get it anywhere for now, we hope to port it to rc2 on monday`
`22:49.09`	`c0w`	`there were some floating ont here`
`22:49.15`	`delmar`	`c0w, no way, even more than that if I go via a distributor, such as Matt at Sineapps.`
`22:49.22`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`delmar : Why do you think you want a channel bank?`
`22:49.54`	`c0w`	`i must admit i don't understand the use of t1`
`22:50.00`	`caio-psl-onu`	`zoa: oh yes, rc2 not rc1; thanks for the info zoa, i'll stay tuned`
`22:50.01`	`c0w`	`why have 24 channels when you can have 30`
`22:50.31`	`delmar`	`[TK]D-Fender, actually, there are a bunch of reasons why one would be useful.. firstly, i can run analog phones such as existing cordless and so on, also the adit600 does a great job of imp-matching to iliminate echo problems....`
`22:50.52`	`justinu`	`are channel banks that much better than ATAs?`
`22:51.22`	`delmar`	`[TK]D-Fender, so it's a great solution all round, and sure VoIP phones are more fun, as long as they perform, but the big reason is.. experience with a T1 solution.. i simply want the oportunity to have a play with one if nothing else...`
`22:51.43`	`delmar`	`c0w, yeah everything here in NZ is E1 to the Telco's.`
`22:51.52`	`delmar`	`c0w, so thats different again.`
`22:52.45`	`delmar`	`c0w, the thing that anoys me is.. these single port t1 cards are just 10/100 network cards with different HDL blown into the fpga.`
`22:52.49`	`justinu`	`t1 is a dying technology`
`22:53.14`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Well Lets say that the price of a channel-bank scenario only tends to pay off in large scale implementations. For everything under the nedd of 2+ channel banks I wouldn't bother. Mine hasn't worked out so great (rhino mixed FXS/FXO)`
`22:53.16`	`delmar`	`c0w, might be a few minor changes to the supporting components perhaps, but otherwise, they are very much a plain old PCI 10/100 NIC.`
`22:53.46`	`delmar`	`[TK]D-Fender, care to share your experiences? what were the key problems you experienced?`
`22:54.08`	`c0w`	`well i must admit i've only played with large corp switches`
`22:54.12`	`c0w`	`not channel banks.`
`22:54.20`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`well, most of my problems were with my Digium cards and cloking across ports, with it solved I still can`
`22:54.31`	`c0w`	`and for what you get from digium the cards are pritty cheap`
`22:54.57`	`c0w`	`we have intel Dialogic.`
`22:55.00`	`c0w`	`now thats big money.`
`22:55.01`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`'t use them for faxes with any reliability (coming in from PRI), and Zap channels are much more limited in terms of call-control functionality withing *`
`22:57.49`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Sipura's ATA do so much more than you can with Zap/T1 at a fraction of the cost, and for higher densities, you pick up one like AudioCodes (high end), Quintum, etc.`
`22:58.01`	`delmar`	`[TK]D-Fender, i just have a TDM400 card here with a single FXO, and im finding it's pretty crappy for receiving faxes. I have had to adjust the TXgain up to about 4.5 so that the Telco's test fax reports the dB levels are correctly set, so faxes generally receive great now, BUT, increasing the TXGain like this has caused alot more echo, especially at the start of the call... it eventually gets better but was way better before I decided to`
`22:58.39`	`c0w`	`yeah we have loads of quintums`
`22:58.42`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`delmar : you talking SpanDSP or analog faxes?`
`22:58.44`	`c0w`	`the d3000 ones`
`22:58.54`	`c0w`	`and a big dirty quintum cms 960 channels.`
`22:59.07`	`ManxPower`	`delmar, Welcome to VoIP. try echocancel=256 echotraining=900 and enable the MG2 Echo Can in zconfig.h in the zaptel source`
`22:59.12`	`delmar`	`[TK]D-Fender, just playing with Spandsp etc right now. it's working great now, but the comprimise was the TXGain :(`
`22:59.51`	`delmar`	`[TK]D-Fender, I think I will ditch that idea, and run an external solution with distinctive ring or somet crap`
`23:00.08`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Well SpanDSP isn't the most reliable to begin with, and lets forget for a second that horror that is TDM400 echo ;)`
`23:00.33`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`delmar : Seriously, go 1FL analog for those lines.... not worth the pain...`
`23:01.08`	`c0w`	`or zyxel wireless sip jobbies.`
`23:01.11`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Digium disavows the existance of faxes, and aside from buying something nasty expensive (like a Broooktrout solution, etc) just go analog`
`23:01.16`	`c0w`	`they work well.`
`23:01.24`	`mog_home`	`lol fender`
`23:01.27`	`mog_home`	`not quiite`
`23:01.31`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`And you're not supposed to echo-cancel on faxes anyways.`
`23:01.35`	`delmar`	`[TK]D-Fender, heh. well, as i say, spandsp and incoming faxing is working just perfectly.. the comprimise is the TXGain.. hence.. echo. the thing is.. early this year i started with an X100 card, and it was just utter rubbish. echo all over the place and I just couldnt find the problem... bought and installed a TDM400 card and instantly the echo was all gone.`
`23:01.50`	`delmar`	`[TK]D-Fender 1FL?`
`23:02.04`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`1FL is a telco term for boring POTS.`
`23:02.29`	`delmar`	`ah ok`
`23:03.22`	`delmar`	`[TK]D-Fender, yeah i am going to setup an external solution.. proper modem hanging off some software .. and set the TDM400 card back to 0.0 TX/RXgain and forget about receiving faxes.. that solution stinks.`
`23:04.11`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`I just can't find a way to make it cost effective is all.. there is really high end stuff, but that takes a LONG time to pay off.`
`23:04.27`	`delmar`	`if only i could find a cheap T1 card though... I could also get another module for the adit600.. it has 2xFXS, i could install 1xFXO.. I hear a solution like that would be echo-free and no problems at all.`
`23:04.27`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`unless you are making a business of it`
`23:05.02`	`christo`	`'help meetme' at the CLI returns 'No such command 'meetme''. Does this mean it's not installed on my * server?`
`23:05.06`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`I heard the same of going from a PRI to Channel-bank.... apparently NOT.`
`23:05.25`	Math`	`christo: use show application meetme`
`23:05.46`	`delmar`	`[TK]D-Fender, yeah, looking at the cost of this adit600 thing here, it would be cheaper to have 16x VoIP phones, and a TDM400 or something... as long as there was no echo it would be great.`
`23:06.02`	`christo`	Math` - it says 'Your application is not registered' :/
`23:06.21`	Math`	`then you didnt compile zaptel prior to asterisk`
`23:06.27`	Math`	`and meetme wasnt built`
`23:07.07`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`delmar : Whats the TDM400 for in that scenario?`
`23:07.13`	`*** join/#asterisk [Airwolf] (n=airwolf@c529d4310.cable.wanadoo.nl)`
`23:07.47`	`christo`	Math` - I'm using ztdummy, because I don't have the hardware installed. lsmod shows ztdummy is loaded. If I go to the * sources and do 'make && make install' then restart, it makes no difference. What am I doing wrong here?
`23:07.52`	`delmar`	`[TK]D-Fender, the pstn line`
`23:07.58`	`delmar`	`[TK]D-Fender, it just has 1FXO module on it`
`23:08.39`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`You mean use the TDM400 for all of your incoming voice lines and VoIP phones for desks?`
`23:08.40`	`delmar`	`[TK]D-Fender, i was really pleased that it worked so nicely compared to the X100. there must be something about it that is different to the X100... I was having no end of trouble until I received it.`
`23:10.14`	`delmar`	`[TK]D-Fender, currently yes thats all i have. TDM400 for in/out PSTN calls, have a couple of grandstreams that work great.. and I have been testing some PA168X rubbish which I made the decision yesterday, to take outside and set fire too. just waiting for the wife to clear the camera, then im gonna pour petrol on them and i shit u not, i will send the pics to TigerNetcom.`
`23:10.33`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`:O`
`23:10.46`	`delmar`	`I am so disgusted with their products.`
`23:11.00`	`denon`	`hey kram`
`23:11.02`	`mog_home`	`?`
`23:11.08`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`I'll leave the Grandstreams alone (consider me geerous), but for excho, My TDM400 was iffy, and there is something neat coming out soon : http://www.telephonyware.com/telephonyware/sangoma_aa.html`
`23:11.16`	`kram`	`sup denon :)`
`23:11.20`	`delmar`	`their firmware update worked on 1 phone out of 4, the remaining 3 phones are dead and the famous PA168X based firmware recovery.. is toast and wont work.`
`23:11.25`	`denon`	`kram: hangin out in vegas?`
`23:11.58`	`zoa`	`Maaaaaaaaaaark`
`23:11.59`	`zoa`	`hey ho`
`23:12.00`	`kram`	`denon: i head out monday`
`23:12.03`	`kram`	`hey zoa`
`23:12.05`	`denon`	`ah`
`23:12.06`	`kram`	`are you gonna be at vegas?`
`23:12.11`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`delmar : in the budget voip range I'd suggest Sipura's phones, for nice office, I'd say Polycom in a heartbeat.`
`23:12.34`	`denon`	`at least the past couple'a months`
`23:12.42`	`delmar`	`anyone know where i can score a g729.dll for testing with firefly? the stuff to download as per instructions on http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Firefly is no longer valid, Voiceage no longer have the file for download. anyone please?`
`23:13.10`	`delmar`	`[TK]D-Fender, yep. It's all about getting what you pay for I reckon.`
`23:13.14`	`tzanger`	`delmar: try your p2p`
`23:13.18`	`zoa`	`delmar: that file is not legal to use`
`23:13.31`	`delmar`	`zoa, i relly couldnt care less.`
`23:13.36`	`denon`	`delmar: but we could`
`23:13.47`	`denon`	`try #voipwarez or somethin`
`23:13.53`	`delmar`	`i said 'testing'. not commercial application`
`23:14.02`	`tzanger`	`I find two sources for it on emule, 160kb`
`23:14.05`	`denon`	`doesnt matter if you're testing or not, the law doesnt differ..`
`23:14.06`	`delmar`	`nah. ilbc or gsm will do just fine i think`
`23:14.15`	`Lostfrog`	`asterisk module for g729?`
`23:14.17`	`Lostfrog`	`Google it.`
`23:14.24`	`delmar`	`no not an * module`
`23:14.29`	`delmar`	`windows .dll`
`23:14.29`	`Lostfrog`	`ahh. nm`
`23:14.36`	`denon`	`Lostfrog: he's talkin the client-side piece`
`23:16.00`	`delmar`	`i draw the line at using pirated g729 for commercial application. if u are makin money.. you can afford to pay the money is my way of thinking`
`23:16.23`	`delmar`	`but for testing is another story.`
`23:16.32`	`*** join/#asterisk logicalonline (n=Ken@209.242.52.25)`
`23:16.40`	`delmar`	`oh and you think the law is fair?`
`23:16.40`	`mog_home`	`if you dont like the rules dont play with there toys`
`23:16.41`	`denon`	`delmar: well .. im not really going to get into it here .. but you wouldnt stuff a channel bank under your coat and walk out the door, just cause you're testing`
`23:16.44`	`mog_home`	`no i dont`
`23:16.47`	`denon`	`why is software any different than hardware`
`23:16.48`	`tzanger`	`I have zero qualms about pirating to evaluate`
`23:16.53`	`tzanger`	`but I am strict about evaluation`
`23:16.59`	`mog_home`	`but i do belive i am allowed to make my own rules when i release something`
`23:17.03`	`delmar`	`tzanger, i agree`
`23:17.05`	`tzanger`	`if you are using it beyond evaluating it you've made a conscious decision`
`23:17.11`	`tzanger`	`and you should buy it`
`23:17.12`	`mog_home`	`and if you dont want to follow them i dont care if you were doing it for mother teresa`
`23:17.16`	`mog_home`	`you broke my license`
`23:17.17`	`mog_home`	`you suck`
`23:17.26`	`mog_home`	`and are no better than sco or any other subverts`
`23:17.36`	`tzanger`	`mog_home: I refuse to pay $500 (or $5) to evaluate something`
`23:17.41`	`tzanger`	`I disagree`
`23:17.43`	`mog_home`	`agreed`
`23:17.48`	`mog_home`	`then dont use said tool`
`23:17.53`	`denon`	`s/mog_home/denon/g > denon-soft.c \| releaseapp`
`23:17.53`	`tzanger`	`evaluation != using (commercial or noncommercial)`
`23:17.58`	`delmar`	`I buy software all the time, that I downloaded and cracked.... last thing I bought for example.. was Getdataback.`
`23:18.21`	`tzanger`	`I too buy all kinds of software, and not cheap shit either`
`23:18.44`	`tzanger`	`latest was Eagle full version (schematic entry, layout and autorouter)`
`23:18.45`	`mog_home`	`i buy everything and if i want to try something, if its available leagily i do so`
`23:18.48`	`mog_home`	`otherwise i dont try it`
`23:18.52`	`mog_home`	`and i usually dont buy it`
`23:19.00`	`mog_home`	`that companies loss not mine`
`23:19.04`	`denon`	`ehh .. ok, so long story short. piracy bad. legal use good. if you want to pirate, dont expect help doing it.`
`23:19.09`	`tzanger`	`osx-x86 is another perfect example`
`23:19.14`	`tzanger`	`I'd never buy a mac just to evaluate it`
`23:19.24`	`delmar`	`i bought that last week because the cracked version, recovered data from a clients system that had been re-formatted and re-installed... after that client says. " oh.. what about X data i had in Y folder .. " im like.. FFS... so I used that to recover it... and charged the guy a few hundred for his lameness... instantly bought the software .. I made money.. so i could afford to buy it ..`
`23:19.33`	`c0w`	`mac rock tbh.`
`23:19.33`	`christo`	`Does anybody know how to get the meetme application 'registered'? I have just recompiled zaptel/ztdummy, the module is loaded, I have recompiled asterisk and reinstalled, but the CLI says that the meetme application is not registered. What does this mean?`
`23:19.34`	`mog_home`	`im not saying companies dont benefit from your piracy tzanger`
`23:19.34`	`tzanger`	`but without actually giving it the old college try (weeks of use) I would never be able to determine whether I'd actually buy it`
`23:19.39`	`mog_home`	`i just think law is law`
`23:19.45`	`mog_home`	`it doesnt have to be right`
`23:19.48`	`tzanger`	`mog_home: I believe that bad laws should be challenged`
`23:19.49`	`mog_home`	`just followed`
`23:19.57`	`mog_home`	`well then publicly challenge it`
`23:20.08`	`denon`	`challenge the law, dont just break it`
`23:20.09`	`tzanger`	`now I agree that I'm really chicken-shitting it with challenging it with piracy for evaluation`
`23:20.13`	`mog_home`	`there is a differnce between pirating macosx86 and civil disobedience`
`23:20.17`	`kram`	`bbiab`
`23:20.25`	`delmar`	`mog_home, for me.. the law is when the cops knock on your door, not a guy in a suit trying to uphold his copyright.`
`23:20.29`	`mog_home`	`im all for civil disobedieance`
`23:20.35`	`mog_home`	`heh`
`23:20.43`	`mog_home`	`i agree too much power is in there hands`
`23:20.44`	`tzanger`	`mog_home: pirating macosx86 to evaluate it is not pirating it to use it at least not in my opinion`
`23:20.48`	`denon`	`mog's a hippie :)`
`23:20.53`	`mog_home`	`still doesnt justify yalls illegal use in my opinion`
`23:20.55`	`delmar`	`mog_home, here in NZ, the cops don't do anything... and don't wanna know.. if you want to uphold copyright.. do it yourself.`
`23:20.56`	`tzanger`	`I understand your viewpoint, and I agree that many companies have benefitted from my piracy of their software`
`23:21.02`	`tzanger`	`since I've gone ahead and purchased it`
`23:21.06`	`tzanger`	`I do the same with music`
`23:21.07`	`mog_home`	`yes delmar`
`23:21.12`	`mog_home`	`your never gonna get arrested`
`23:21.19`	`tzanger`	`I download a bunch and I end up buying their albums`
`23:21.26`	`mog_home`	`no one is ever gonna get caught for pirating g729`
`23:21.33`	`mog_home`	`in the end it is a moral thing`
`23:21.34`	`tzanger`	`but I'd never just pay $16-$25 at random to evaluate it`
`23:21.40`	`delmar`	`mog_home, i agree`
`23:21.42`	`tzanger`	`mog_home: I agree with the moral thing`
`23:21.51`	`tzanger`	`I guess my morals are a little different than yours :-)`
`23:22.01`	`denon`	`I still say, you wouldnt stuff a bunch of stuff in your coat in a store . .`
`23:22.02`	`mog_home`	`i think it is immoral to break law in private, i think it is moral to publicly break law in act of civil disobediance`
`23:22.06`	`denon`	`why is software any different`
`23:22.11`	`tzanger`	`I feel that if I release software and someone pirates it to evaluate and I get the sale later due to that piracy, then whoohoo`
`23:22.12`	`mog_home`	`exactly`
`23:22.20`	`denon`	`you wouldnt walk into a computer store, and stuff a copy of whatever software in your coat either ..`
`23:22.25`	`tzanger`	`I don't have to fuck around with trying to protect my software to release a limited version?`
`23:22.26`	`denon`	`the physical goods make you feel wrong`
`23:22.30`	`denon`	`buyt just downloading it doesnt`
`23:22.32`	`denon`	`-y`
`23:22.46`	`mog_home`	`i agree tzanger loads of people make money from pirated products`
`23:23.01`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`tzanger : yours is a difficult approach to uphold and expect others to have faith in. That another could make the same claim and lie about their future intentions is the reason it would not be an accepted practice.`
`23:23.01`	`mog_home`	`but in reality said company should release trial version`
`23:23.04`	`mog_home`	`in the first place`
`23:23.06`	`Lostfrog`	`Let's just legalize pot and then we won't need to argue.`
`23:23.07`	`tzanger`	`[TK]D-Fender: agreed`
`23:23.12`	`tzanger`	`totally agreed`
`23:23.15`	`mog_home`	`lol lostfrog agreed`
`23:23.24`	`denon`	`mog_home: a trial is nice, but I dont think it should be a given ..`
`23:23.26`	`tzanger`	`mog_home: I dislike trial versions`
`23:23.37`	`tzanger`	`as both someone who writes software and as someone who buys it`
`23:23.39`	`denon`	`mog_home: I mean, if you buy a new house .. you dont get a trial first .. you buy it, its yours .. if you dont like it, get them to take it back`
`23:23.52`	`delmar`	`Take Vanuatu for example, there is a nice little shop in Port Vila that I used to check out while I was living there...called MegaMall. You can buy US$50k worth of software for AU$20`
`23:23.57`	`mog_home`	`yup`
`23:24.00`	`tzanger`	`[TK]D-Fender: ther'es a certain amount of faith involved... but again i'd rather put my energy into making software, not into anti-copying techniques that never ever work`
`23:24.15`	`tzanger`	`I mean look at how much effort's gone in to key fobs and shit and it's still trivially cracked`
`23:24.19`	`Lostfrog`	`denon: with a new house, you get a walk-though and a professional inspection.`
`23:24.41`	`denon`	`Lostfrog: ya, after it's all sided and sheetrocked :)`
`23:24.54`	`denon`	`with studs every 64 inches :)`
`23:25.04`	`tzanger`	`hahaha`
`23:25.23`	`Lostfrog`	`c0w: mark was here, why didn't you say anything to him?`
`23:25.27`	`c0w`	`not that`
`23:25.32`	`denon`	`you know ..`
`23:25.32`	`c0w`	`trying to make problem happen`
`23:25.34`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`tzanger : true, but while it may often be cracked I think the success ratio tends to still show in the "profit" column and justify it to the author. Either that or no-one could/did produce enough evidence of its irrelevance to sway them.`
`23:25.36`	`denon`	`Ive got this * bug ..`
`23:25.42`	`denon`	`I should try to fix it and submit a patch`
`23:25.45`	`c0w`	`you have it as well`
`23:25.46`	`denon`	`that'd be a nice thing, wouldnt it`
`23:25.52`	`tzanger`	`[TK]D-Fender: not from my experience`
`23:25.57`	`tzanger`	`I've been in the pirate scene since the C64`
`23:26.00`	`Lostfrog`	`denon: nah.. let someone else fix it. :)`
`23:26.01`	`tzanger`	`Fast Hack'em and such`
`23:26.14`	`denon`	`Lostfrog: yeah.. but I know the problem, and I know the fix .. kinda`
`23:26.31`	`Lostfrog`	`Sucks to be you.`
`23:26.33`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`tzanger : I guess you're a statistic they don't care anout and the remainder pays for it :)`
`23:26.34`	`deezed`	`is there anyway to make a global h extension. My dial plan goes through different contexts so I don't know where the caller would hang up, but I need to make sure commands are run when they hang up`
`23:26.43`	`tzanger`	`[TK]D-Fender: :-)`
`23:26.46`	`c0w`	`if i knew the fix to my problem.`
`23:26.49`	`denon`	`deezed: include => hangup`
`23:26.54`	`c0w`	`i would be writing a fix now.`
`23:27.15`	`deezed`	`thanks denon.. didn't think of that`
`23:27.24`	`Lostfrog`	`Doesn't a call always end up in it's starting context?`
`23:27.26`	`denon`	`deezed: the simplest solutions are always the best`
`23:27.33`	`deezed`	`=)`
`23:27.34`	`tzanger`	`the only anti-copying method I ran across I couldn't get through was Scream Tracker 2.21`
`23:27.43`	`tzanger`	`and it was good`
`23:27.58`	`tzanger`	`not even SoftIce was able to help me`
`23:28.15`	`zoa`	`hehe`
`23:28.18`	`Qwell`	`no matter how good the copy protection...dd will get around it. heh`
`23:28.31`	`tzanger`	`Qwell: well this was registration`
`23:28.34`	`tzanger`	`not copy protection`
`23:28.35`	`zoa`	`ida pro has a nice copy protection`
`23:28.40`	`zoa`	`every binary is custom built`
`23:28.48`	`zoa`	`you share it ? they will bust your ass`
`23:29.00`	`tzanger`	`zoa: :-) that is perfectly effective`
`23:29.00`	`c0w`	`has anyone else tried the ooh323c h323 channel driver in 1.2`
`23:29.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`I try to be a "legit" as "convenient". I regret my buyer's remorse gets in the way too often, but OSS is helping me very much. I've switched to GAIM, OOo (though still install Office, etc). I'm working my way towards a singe Boxed WinXP and try to do the rest in OSS. it really does cover almost everything except the 2 games I play which I should go and deal with.`
`23:29.05`	`tzanger`	`same as one-time-pad really`
`23:29.11`	`gambolputty`	`Is is possible to replace what * puts in the Contact field with something else?`
`23:29.41`	`denon`	`Contact field?`
`23:29.45`	`denon`	`you mean callerid?`
`23:29.45`	`gambolputty`	`yes`
`23:29.47`	`mog_home`	`yeah oss has made going clean so easy`
`23:29.47`	`gambolputty`	`no`
`23:29.47`	`ManxPower`	`gambolputty, What do you want to accomplish?`
`23:29.51`	`gambolputty`	`in the sip headers`
`23:29.56`	`gambolputty`	`that Contact field`
`23:30.10`	`gambolputty`	`I see in there now an extension and an IP address`
`23:30.12`	`tzanger`	`yup`
`23:30.14`	`*** part/#asterisk logicalonline (n=Ken@209.242.52.25)`
`23:30.15`	`ManxPower`	`gambolputty, well fromuser= exists`
`23:30.21`	`tzanger`	`no pirated software on this laptop at all`
`23:30.50`	`ManxPower`	`gambolputty, your extensive search of the mailing list archives didn't help?`
`23:31.05`	`denon`	`gambolputty: register => <username>@<sip client/peer id in sip.conf>/<contact> :Register with a SIP provider`
`23:31.22`	`gambolputty`	`not register`
`23:31.39`	`ManxPower`	`If gambolputty tells us what he wants to accomplish then we might have althernative methods of accomplishing that.`
`23:31.45`	`gambolputty`	`I want to put in a name and domain name instead`
`23:31.54`	`gambolputty`	`and have it change everytime a call is made`
`23:32.05`	`ManxPower`	`gambolputty, I don't believe you can do that`
`23:32.06`	`gambolputty`	`especially the name part before the @ sign`
`23:32.31`	`ManxPower`	`I still don't understand WHY you would want to do that.`
`23:32.45`	`gambolputty`	`I have my SIP URL in the From field`
`23:32.47`	`gambolputty`	`that took`
`23:32.53`	`gambolputty`	`but it is not in the Contact field`
`23:33.13`	`gambolputty`	`some other equipment out there might try to contact me back using info in the Contact field`
`23:33.17`	`gambolputty`	`and that wouldn't work`
`23:33.28`	`ManxPower`	`gambolputty, why would it not work?`
`23:33.50`	`*** join/#asterisk veto (i=mdkuser@cpe-66-69-38-192.satx.res.rr.com)`
`23:33.54`	`gambolputty`	`The means of contacting me back would be a name, not my extension`
`23:34.12`	`gambolputty`	`hence I need to replace what's in the Contact field`
`23:34.14`	`gambolputty`	`with something else`
`23:34.25`	`ManxPower`	`gambolputty, I dunno. Every phone call that wants to contact ME has to go to an extension.`
`23:34.35`	`gambolputty`	`not in my case`
`23:35.08`	`ManxPower`	`Results 1 - 10 of about 134 from lists.digium.com for replace contact.`
`23:35.21`	`ManxPower`	`gambolputty, sounds like you should be running SER and not Asterisk`
`23:35.44`	`gambolputty`	`slowing trying to understand ser`
`23:35.48`	`gambolputty`	`it is complex`
`23:35.57`	`gambolputty`	`reading rfc3261 first though`
`23:36.06`	`gambolputty`	`equally complex`
`23:36.36`	`Lostfrog`	`I wish we could train like they do in the matrix.`
`23:36.49`	`gambolputty`	`minor miracle that one`
`23:38.27`	`ManxPower`	`gambolputty, see Bug #510 at bugs.digium.com`
`23:38.32`	`gambolputty`	`ok`
`23:39.25`	`cjk`	`hi, does anyone know why realtime is updating the username?`
`23:39.49`	`gambolputty`	`thx`
`23:39.52`	`gambolputty`	`interesting reading`
`23:40.06`	`ManxPower`	`Some idiots think fiddleing with Contact: etc headers is the solution to NAT problems.`
`23:40.25`	`*** join/#asterisk [hC] (n=hardcore@c-24-127-192-210.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)`
`23:40.50`	`gambolputty`	`wow, didn't know that`
`23:41.05`	`gambolputty`	`I have no problem with NAT though`
`23:42.02`	`shido6`	`thank god for Oatmeal to Go`
`23:44.13`	`Lostfrog`	`ok.. the problem with the D() option in Dial is fixed in RC2.`
`23:44.25`	`sahafeez`	`~dialogic`
`23:44.26`	`jbot`	`extra, extra, read all about it, dialogic is no more. it has ceased to be. it shuffled off its moral coil and went to meet Intel`
`23:45.11`	`Lostfrog`	`It is an ex-company?`
`23:45.17`	`Igbothom_III`	`this is the Intel who no longer leads the technology race in the x86 marketplace? :)`
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`23:48.48`	`Lostfrog`	`I love making network cables. :(`
`23:48.49`	`zoa`	`hey brookie`
`23:55.14`	`Lostfrog`	`and... the channel dies.`
`23:56.15`	`*** join/#asterisk Jzalae (n=sk@dsl-66-63-110-48.gwi.net)`

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