00:00.11 | pauldy | hmm and if ztdummy will not compile |
00:00.11 | blitzrage | tzanger: yep... which also makes it difficult to pick who to work for :) I just tend to work for the people who i get a good feeling from, and who give me guarenteed amounts of work. Unfortunately it also causes me to have to turn some work away... but those are usually people who just need a couple of hours of work |
00:00.23 | n0rf- | pauldy: then dig deeper |
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00:00.41 | pauldy | ztdummy.h:33: field `span' has incomplete type |
00:00.54 | n0rf- | pauldy: it's been the same sucky procedure for anyone not using hardware timers |
00:01.12 | tzanger | yeah |
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00:01.27 | n0rf- | complain to digium officially not supporting this... and make X-Rob happy ;) |
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00:07.32 | file | blitzrage: I just bought my ticket for Montreal ;) |
00:07.46 | Druken | wuts in montreal ? |
00:07.47 | blitzrage | file: w00t :) |
00:07.52 | blitzrage | Meet Asterisk |
00:08.04 | blitzrage | http://www.astricon.net/meetasterisk |
00:08.11 | file | or, meet blitzrage! |
00:08.20 | blitzrage | yah or that I guess :) |
00:08.21 | X-Rob | n0rf- - actually, the whole timing stuff is being redone using POSIX timers, apparently. |
00:08.24 | X-Rob | but that's way beyond me |
00:08.36 | X-Rob | I can fix typos and thinkos, and write documentation |
00:08.37 | X-Rob | that's about it 8) |
00:08.43 | file | blitzrage: you need to let Junky and I in for free so we can hassle you :P |
00:09.01 | Druken | all on week days... |
00:09.01 | blitzrage | file: no way :) |
00:09.17 | Druken | i swear i'm the only one in the world who works for a living... |
00:09.23 | blitzrage | Druken: yep -- its usually easier to get business types out during normal working days |
00:09.24 | file | "Leif Leif, can I run a vonage company using Asterisk?!?" |
00:09.43 | blitzrage | file: "Yes you can. No, I won't help you do it." :) |
00:09.47 | file | :) |
00:10.59 | n0rf- | X-Rob: so make sure to announce it beforehand, so digium can react in time to implement it as well. then they can hire all the OPBX devs in a good deal and still incorporate everything they wanted :D |
00:11.01 | Druken | i could probably visit the toronto one for an hour... |
00:11.21 | Netgeeks | A hurricane named Beta... how appropriate |
00:11.39 | Druken | next one would be gama |
00:11.42 | X-Rob | n0rf- w00t. I need to get paid more. |
00:11.47 | X-Rob | digium can hire my fat arse. |
00:11.58 | Netgeeks | define 'more' |
00:12.07 | X-Rob | want > current |
00:12.10 | X-Rob | need == more. |
00:12.24 | Druken | kinda a small hotel that are meeting at in toronto.... |
00:12.37 | X-Rob | alpha beta gamma delta epsilon! |
00:12.54 | Netgeeks | I'm in the market to hire a coupe developers in the next month.... so if you are actually looking.... |
00:13.17 | X-Rob | Netgeeks - As I said, I'm not really a developer. I'm a bugfixed and docco writer. |
00:13.21 | X-Rob | bugfixer |
00:13.32 | Netgeeks | I was more thinking of 'Beta' is in the mess this beta code left is amazing... |
00:13.33 | X-Rob | I'm a unix guy rather than a coder. |
00:13.41 | X-Rob | heh |
00:14.18 | Netgeeks | ah! on the definition of your area of expertise |
00:14.22 | Druken | i'm with ya X-Rob... i don't know codeing at all.... i'm a player... |
00:17.49 | n0rf- | lol |
00:18.02 | n0rf- | playboy #42? ^^ |
00:18.07 | blitzrage | weak |
00:19.05 | n0rf- | i don't code either (except a bit js, lingo, as), but i'm with the guys who went all the trouble to create * |
00:19.18 | n0rf- | *thru |
00:20.56 | file | blitzrage: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
00:21.50 | blitzrage | file: you called? |
00:21.59 | blitzrage | file: back to work kid :) |
00:22.00 | file | blitzrage: not really |
00:22.10 | file | but it's Saturday >.< |
00:22.24 | blitzrage | file: exactly! You should work TWICE as hard on Saturday |
00:22.27 | blitzrage | :) |
00:22.35 | file | wow, what a great idea |
00:22.54 | n0rf- | you'd get paid quadruple :P |
00:23.01 | file | one would hope |
00:23.20 | n0rf- | ye :| |
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00:25.23 | Ringwraith` | what program can i use to make a gsm file |
00:25.39 | Netgeeks | wow... 38 seconds to build asterisk |
00:25.44 | blitzrage | not too shabby |
00:26.01 | Netgeeks | dual opteron 275 |
00:26.18 | file | I wonder how long my cellphone can last using bluetooth to my Powerbook with a 1X connection up |
00:26.38 | tzanger | hmm |
00:26.44 | Netgeeks | I think the electricity used in those 38 seconds could probably drive a prius 10 miles tho |
00:26.52 | tzanger | if * can't authenticate an IAX2 call it returns HC 50 - facility not subscribed |
00:26.56 | tzanger | that doesn't sound right |
00:27.03 | Netgeeks | this maching sounds like a 747 spooled up and ready to go |
00:27.15 | n0rf- | file: what cellphone do you have? |
00:27.22 | Netgeeks | machine, even |
00:27.29 | file | n0rf-: Motorola V710 |
00:27.40 | n0rf- | mine lasts about 1 day just being connected, without transfers :\ |
00:27.44 | n0rf- | siemens sx1 |
00:27.54 | file | I guess we'll see |
00:27.57 | file | or I can test it before I leave! |
00:28.09 | file | still got a week |
00:28.44 | n0rf- | i've had a moto600 before, it was even weaker |
00:29.12 | n0rf- | plus, it didn't do much.. no jsr-82 |
00:29.18 | file | I'll be travelling through very... rural... parts, so I dunno if I'll even have digital |
00:30.42 | hellop | I have a polycom 501, I can dial it's extension from another phone, but when I try to call out, it does not seem to send anything to my server IP. Any suggestions? |
00:33.16 | hellop | no one likes me |
00:33.37 | X-Rob | you're correct. |
00:34.21 | hellop | anything I can do about that? |
00:34.44 | X-Rob | Give useful information? |
00:34.51 | X-Rob | put it on pastebin.ca? |
00:38.02 | hellop | oh, sorry |
00:39.39 | file | blitzrage: how was your day? |
00:48.22 | file[laptop] | shocking. |
00:54.42 | n0rf- | file: his daily information ain't gpl'd |
00:54.50 | n0rf- | you need to wait til an agency picks it up |
00:55.33 | file[laptop] | darn |
00:57.18 | n0rf- | wait() |
00:57.23 | n0rf- | or die |
01:03.59 | pauldy | the more I dig through this code the more I want to just hit myself in the head with a hammer |
01:05.49 | file[laptop] | which code |
01:06.08 | pauldy | the zaptel driver code |
01:06.17 | file[laptop] | *G* |
01:06.19 | pauldy | trying to get ztdummy to compile for 2.4 kernel |
01:06.42 | file[laptop] | it should already |
01:06.46 | file[laptop] | just use the USB controller. |
01:07.45 | pauldy | it isn't there is a problem with it not recognizing what span and chan are in the ztdummy structure definition |
01:08.25 | pauldy | ztdummy.h ~ line 33 |
01:11.05 | warthog | can you update a polycom 600 from 2.5 boot rom to 2.6.2? docs suggest you need to downgrade to 2.1, then update to 2.6.2 |
01:12.14 | azzie | warthog, do the opposite to what docs say |
01:12.42 | azzie | make it a rule for yourself |
01:12.52 | warthog | azzie, can you toast a polycom by making a bootrom mistake? not sure what you mean by opposite? |
01:14.45 | xheliox | I suspect he was being sarcastic. |
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01:16.03 | warthog | just to be sure, if I put the bootrom.ld file in the ftp directory, does the upgrade just happen? I see no bootrom.ver file in the zips |
01:18.35 | warthog | can I put the 2.6.2 bootrom.ld in the ftp home and a 600 with 2.5 logs in, will it update without issues? manual says you need to downgrade first to 2.1 which I can't get. |
01:19.59 | warthog | anyone, anyone, buehler ..... |
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01:30.33 | P-NuT | Hi all, I have an IAX extension at my mates house (no NAT) that is calling my SIP extension here at home (behind NAT), and there seems to be delays of 5 seconds of my speech reaching his phone. Now he is using GSM and I'm using Ulaw here at home. Would that make any difference? |
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01:31.51 | blitzrage | P-NuT: possible... if Asterisk is running on a really slow computer and it had to do transcoding... but even then |
01:32.03 | blitzrage | P-NuT: I'd say thats probably not the problem |
01:34.37 | warthog | can you update a polycom 600 straight from 2.5 bootrom to 2.6.2, if so, with just a bootrom.ld file? |
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01:37.03 | warthog | can you update a polycom 600 straight from 2.5 bootrom to 2.6.2, if so, with just a bootrom.ld file? |
01:39.54 | hellop | huh, I fixed my Polycom 501. By removing the Outbound Proxy field. What's that for? If I have a SIP provider outside my local network/ |
01:41.02 | Neter66 | does anyone know why I would see a CSeq: 102 NOTIFY From: "Unknown" <sip:Unknown@192.168.1.141>;tag=as43591c75 |
01:41.10 | Neter66 | why would it be showing up as unknown? |
01:42.21 | Neter66 | my phone registers, gets a 401, then reregisters again immediately, and gets SIP 200 (successful registration). Then, within half a second, I get a NOTIFY from * and the whole process starts over |
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01:42.41 | scubasteve | What's shakin?! |
01:43.01 | hellop | Nester66, you try "sip debug" |
01:43.34 | Neter66 | That is from a sip debug |
01:43.45 | scubasteve | Anyone in here with Asterisk *and* a ReplayTV? I've got an app...:-) |
01:44.46 | Neter66 | i'm concerned about the "From: "Unknown" <sip:Unknown@192.168.1.141>;tag=as7cb49455" |
01:44.56 | warthog | can you update a polycom 600 straight from 2.5 bootrom to 2.6.2, if so, with just a bootrom.ld file? |
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01:45.20 | Neter66 | I think the phone is puking on it, as it is expecting sip:2001@192.168.1.141:5060 to be sending the NOTIFY, not sip:unknown |
01:48.03 | blitzrage | JunK-Y: you around? |
01:50.35 | hellop | scubasteve, Now, you can watch tv from your phone?! |
01:51.10 | file[laptop] | blitzrage: he's gone |
01:51.11 | pv2b | "press 743# to have asterisk fax you the current show on TV" |
01:51.29 | file[laptop] | gone far far away |
01:51.40 | scubasteve | hellop, No ... you can change channels and go through all of the program guides through a phone though... |
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01:52.00 | file[laptop] | you can watch TV on my cellphone... not that I'd ever go for that, too expensive for too little/too crappy |
01:52.02 | blitzrage | file[laptop]: you know JunK-Y's website with the Astricon pictures? (I could probably find it on the wiki, but I'm lazy...) |
01:52.13 | file[laptop] | blitzrage: I know where it is, lemme grab it |
01:52.17 | blitzrage | coolio |
01:52.40 | file[laptop] | waiting for it to come up... but it's just hanging there |
01:52.44 | file[laptop] | aha |
01:52.45 | file[laptop] | http://www.midsouthmarketplace.com/~krice/gallery/ |
01:52.46 | file[laptop] | there we are |
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01:53.21 | file[laptop] | :) |
01:54.09 | scubasteve | Do most people in here choose to go IAX over SIP for their term/orig? I just had a chat with my voip provider and they really recommended I go SIP instead of IAX... there were some really good reasons, too... |
01:54.28 | file[laptop] | we've had quality issues with IAX2, and SIP has worked far better |
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01:54.51 | blitzrage | scubasteve: SIP is more actively maintained |
01:54.54 | websae | how hard is it to make a call menu in asterisk? |
01:55.01 | file[laptop] | plus SIP+RTP is a standard, yay |
01:55.04 | blitzrage | websae: as hard as you want it? |
01:55.23 | blitzrage | anyone know a good console based volume mixer for linux? |
01:55.42 | scubasteve | file... ok, good.. I'm setting up * for a magazine article and will play more with SIP over IAX. |
01:56.09 | xheliox | blitzrage: alsamixer (if you're using alsa) |
01:56.15 | scubasteve | My voip provider said he sends REINVITE in SIP and the traffic goes directly to level3 from my end... IAX doesn't workie that way. |
01:56.20 | blitzrage | xheliox: ahhh yes.. I think that was the one I was looking for |
01:56.34 | file[laptop] | IAX can work that way, it just goes too far... |
01:56.38 | blitzrage | scubasteve: well thats because level 3 doesn't handle IAX2 |
01:56.46 | scubasteve | blitz.. yeah :) |
01:56.49 | file[laptop] | and yeah, doesn't cross protocols |
01:56.56 | file[laptop] | if it used RTP it could though |
01:57.11 | scubasteve | That and he said the more transcoding there is.. the more chances of something going wrong and jitter.. which all makes sense. |
01:57.18 | scubasteve | Never really gave it that much thought though. |
01:57.47 | Voicelynx | scubasteve: that isn't a comment on IAX - it just says that since they are using Level3 SIP may make more sense |
01:57.51 | scubasteve | He said "The Asterisk people wrote IAX to get around the NAT issues of SIP... Then went into SIP and fixed the NAT problems..." |
01:58.16 | scubasteve | Yeah, they are L3 and Quest. |
01:58.36 | scubasteve | .. thankfully with no middleman. |
01:58.39 | Voicelynx | We use IAX day in day out with "reinvite" and it works fine |
01:58.55 | blitzrage | I just use both |
01:58.57 | file[laptop] | IAX can't reinvite, it can do native transfers but that screws up billing |
01:59.11 | Voicelynx | True - that is why I said it in quotes |
01:59.26 | file[laptop] | reinvite is a SIP term... ;) |
01:59.27 | Voicelynx | but if the billing issue isn't a problem it works |
01:59.43 | scubasteve | Billing issues, as long as they are to my benefit... are fine with me :) |
02:00.07 | file[laptop] | blitzrage: I've been skipping through the book some more and saw some of the stuff I explained to you :) |
02:00.13 | blitzrage | file[laptop]: :D |
02:00.20 | Voicelynx | IAX was more useful around a year ago when much SIP gear would still have NAT issues |
02:00.27 | file[laptop] | like the chan_iax2 switch stuff that I had to open the source for |
02:00.38 | blitzrage | file[laptop]: exactly! :) |
02:00.41 | blitzrage | file[laptop]: that was good stuff |
02:01.20 | blitzrage | odd... yum doesn't find alsamixer |
02:01.23 | scubasteve | There goes file again, always either dancing or hugging. |
02:01.31 | file[laptop] | scubasteve: I hug in real life too |
02:01.41 | scubasteve | cool. |
02:01.42 | Voicelynx | Dancing on the laptop too..... |
02:01.50 | blitzrage | or in irc ;) |
02:01.53 | file[laptop] | blitzrage: I'll sneak up on you! |
02:02.01 | GXTi | anyone care to explain what a milliwatt is in telecom terminology?(not the unit, like a kind of tone or something) |
02:02.03 | Qwell[] | note to self: avoid file at all costs. |
02:02.06 | Qwell[] | :p |
02:02.08 | blitzrage | Qwell[]: :) |
02:02.15 | file[laptop] | Qwell[]: indeed |
02:02.18 | scubasteve | Qwell.. lol |
02:02.18 | Voicelynx | It is a milliwatt |
02:02.25 | file[laptop] | I'll go off on rants/tangents too |
02:02.29 | Voicelynx | which is 0.775V RMS into 600 Ohms |
02:03.33 | Voicelynx | The milliwatt signal is usually used as a standard line-up tone |
02:04.14 | GXTi | hrm |
02:06.57 | Voicelynx | GXTi: A milliwatt tone at 1000Hz or 900Hz would be used to line up gain on analog curcuits |
02:06.57 | GXTi | okay, thanks :p |
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02:08.11 | Voicelynx | Not the answer you wanted ? :) |
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02:10.03 | scubasteve | Is the SIP jitterbuffer any better or worse than IAX (CVS HEAD) ? |
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02:10.21 | blitzrage | SIP has a jitterbuffer now? :) |
02:10.26 | file[laptop] | the patch? dunno, haven't tried it in a long time |
02:10.33 | scubasteve | blitz, ... doesn't it? |
02:10.41 | file[laptop] | nope |
02:10.47 | scubasteve | no kiddin |
02:10.48 | scubasteve | ok |
02:10.49 | file[laptop] | SIP/RTP in CVS has no jitterbuffer |
02:10.54 | blitzrage | nope -- like file[laptop] said, I think there is a patch for it... |
02:11.01 | blitzrage | probably doesn't apply to CVS any more though... |
02:11.52 | blitzrage | chan_sip changes a fair amount |
02:11.52 | scubasteve | I thought I saw something on asterisk-dev about it being showed at Astricon.. |
02:15.01 | pv2b | should asterisk be implementing a jitter buffer? shouldn't that be handled at the sip phone end? |
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02:15.37 | mtgh | pv2b: there is one in asterisk |
02:15.41 | mtgh | well on iax there is |
02:16.32 | pv2b | might be handy, but i can't think of any cases where it'd be justified right now off the top of my head. then again, i'm an asterisk newbie |
02:16.57 | file[laptop] | I'm working on something... for something else... and I've got a jitterbuffer going on RTP, and it's beautiful |
02:17.24 | pv2b | well, yeah, but it sounds like something a client should be doing, not asterisk itself. |
02:17.33 | pv2b | or wait a minute. i'm thinking inside the VoIP box. |
02:17.38 | file[laptop] | asterisk is acting as a user agent though |
02:17.42 | pv2b | could make sense if you're routing calls onto the pstn. |
02:17.54 | file[laptop] | and it does help, and it does make sense |
02:18.13 | file[laptop] | and I am insane |
02:18.31 | pv2b | file[laptop]: you're sane compared to some people I know. |
02:18.38 | file[laptop] | scary |
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02:19.05 | pv2b | then again, maybe I haven't been paying enough attention to you yet. |
02:19.08 | pv2b | ;-) |
02:19.35 | Trionnis | anyone have a suggestion for a non-voip basic 800 DID provider? I don't need a web interface, or voicemail, or any of that. |
02:19.53 | Trionnis | flat per minute with no monthly would be ideal :) |
02:20.01 | Qwell[] | call your telco |
02:20.01 | scubasteve | So nobody in here with a ReplayTV and Asterisk, eh? |
02:20.08 | Trionnis | it's Verizon |
02:20.10 | Trionnis | no thanks |
02:20.12 | Trionnis | heh |
02:20.16 | scubasteve | Verizon, yuck. |
02:20.21 | Trionnis | yup, exactly |
02:20.40 | Trionnis | this is for a dialup ISP signup service, so I can't do voip obviously |
02:21.04 | Trionnis | client of mine asked me about it today, and google is spammed with garbage sites |
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02:21.17 | Trionnis | figured this might be a place to ask |
02:21.31 | scubasteve | Man, Verizon just... argh. We lived here for 6 years and every damn time it rained the phone line went pure static. Those idiots came out no less than 50 times and never figured it out. Now it's fixed.. with Asterisk ... |
02:22.29 | pv2b | Trionnis: well, you could do voip, actually. |
02:22.38 | pv2b | Trionnis: as long as you use µlaw or something like that. |
02:22.49 | Qwell[] | better have a damn good connection to your provider... |
02:22.54 | Trionnis | uh, yeah |
02:22.57 | Trionnis | exactly |
02:23.02 | ManxPower | pv2b, Jitter buffer only happens on INCOMINg audio, so there needs to be one at each end |
02:23.09 | Trionnis | I'd rather just avoid it alltogether |
02:23.12 | scubasteve | pv2b.. the slightest jitter or hiccup on the network and the modem connection goes bonkers.. |
02:23.16 | Trionnis | needs to be uber-reliable obviously |
02:23.45 | scubasteve | Trionnis.. I wouldn't even consider doing it over voip, ulaw or not. You're just asking for trouble. |
02:23.51 | Trionnis | oh, I'm not |
02:23.52 | Trionnis | :) |
02:23.55 | scubasteve | k |
02:23.58 | pv2b | scubasteve: true, but it would "work" inside a real-time environment |
02:24.03 | Qwell[] | I do dialup connections with g729 |
02:24.12 | Trionnis | hence the reason I specified "non voip" in the original question :) |
02:24.15 | ManxPower | Qwell[], You also lie. |
02:24.18 | Trionnis | haha |
02:24.22 | scubasteve | pv2b.. yep... on a lan with qos you're probably fine.. on the internet, all bets are off. |
02:24.26 | Qwell[] | ManxPower: Through various orifices, yes |
02:25.00 | file | I'm not even going to ask about that |
02:25.06 | Qwell[] | file: good idea |
02:25.06 | file | just, like, yeah |
02:25.21 | ManxPower | Gads, I have to do client billing tomorrow. |
02:25.38 | scubasteve | Think about baseball maybe? |
02:25.47 | pv2b | scubasteve: well, unless you've got a service contract guaranteeing a certain amount of maximum latency between two points. |
02:25.58 | Qwell[] | pv2b: latency isn't the issue |
02:26.01 | pv2b | scubasteve: these exist, though of course your voip terminator has to have one of those too. |
02:26.07 | pv2b | well, packet loss too. |
02:26.11 | scubasteve | Ya. |
02:26.19 | scubasteve | There's still too much to go wrong, contracts or not. |
02:26.25 | Qwell[] | it's just sound... |
02:26.38 | Qwell[] | one packet comes out of order...and it could potentially kill it |
02:27.16 | Trionnis | yup |
02:27.20 | Trionnis | so anyway |
02:27.21 | pv2b | true, but it's not quite as sensitive as fax. modems will retrain. it won't be pretty but it'll work :-) |
02:27.27 | Trionnis | Kall8 is kinda pricey |
02:27.36 | Trionnis | and like I said, google is spammed to hell |
02:27.44 | Trionnis | so, any suggestions? :) |
02:27.53 | scubasteve | Trionnis... We do regular 800 at work for our office... I found out it's like 11c/min or something STUPID like that... |
02:28.01 | Trionnis | ouch |
02:28.08 | Trionnis | that's out of budget for this guy |
02:28.09 | scubasteve | I don't know who it's trough, but it burns me up to think about how much that silly 800# costs. |
02:28.14 | pv2b | 11c per minute? |
02:28.15 | pv2b | wow. |
02:28.21 | pv2b | that's... expensive. |
02:28.25 | scubasteve | It was horrible. |
02:28.39 | ManxPower | You can get a LOT less thru a regular PSTN carrier |
02:28.45 | scubasteve | That's what I thought. |
02:28.56 | scubasteve | I'm just a developer, nobody cares what I think. |
02:29.10 | scubasteve | They lock me in a dimly lit room and slide a pizza under the door every few days.. |
02:29.12 | X-Rob | that's right |
02:29.13 | file | uh hrm |
02:29.13 | ManxPower | And even less thru a VoIP carrier, but why let the internet take down your phone service |
02:29.17 | file | where did I put my cellphone case... |
02:29.39 | file | muahaha success |
02:30.18 | pv2b | (as if an internet with a service contract with a link going through a single ISP is less reliable than the phone network.) |
02:30.26 | pv2b | s/internet/internet connection/ |
02:30.41 | ManxPower | pv2b, any every internet connection between you and your ITSP. |
02:30.59 | pv2b | ManxPower: as opposed to every phone line between you and your customer. |
02:31.01 | Qwell[] | and them and their ITSP :D |
02:31.04 | file | I just moved my PBX from a box in New York, to a box in San Jose... my route is soooo much nicer |
02:31.07 | pv2b | Qwell[]: good point :D |
02:31.08 | file | eliminated all my problems |
02:31.14 | ManxPower | And if you call up an ISP and complain about jitter they laugh at you. |
02:31.37 | Trionnis | actually Savvis doesn't do that to me |
02:31.49 | ManxPower | The PSTN is more reliable than VoIP over the internet, it's as simple as that. |
02:31.51 | Trionnis | but I pay extra for QoS across their network :) |
02:31.56 | file | I had a customer call me up and complain about quality, and all I could say was "I don't control the internet." |
02:32.09 | Qwell[] | file: Well, why not? |
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02:32.14 | ManxPower | Trionnis, SAVVIS rocks |
02:32.14 | pv2b | ManxPower: well, you can get internet connections specifying certain performance minima between certain endpoints. but it's going to cost you, of course. |
02:32.18 | file | Qwell[]: my mommy won't let me :( |
02:32.25 | ManxPower | pv2b, cost much more than PSTN |
02:32.37 | Trionnis | Savvis + InterNap = mega kickass routes |
02:32.40 | Trionnis | ;) |
02:32.56 | ManxPower | We use VoIP over point to point T-1s, but that's not "the internet" |
02:33.01 | pv2b | ManxPower: doesn't change the fact that it's technically possible. i never said it was a good idea :-) |
02:33.12 | Trionnis | it's expensive as hell, but I never see anything over 45ms to anywhere on the net |
02:33.17 | Trionnis | even asia ;) |
02:33.22 | ManxPower | pv2b, I doubt you can get QoS service between you and your ITSP. |
02:33.26 | ManxPower | No matter what you spend. |
02:33.27 | scubasteve | "It's possible but not likely..." |
02:33.39 | scubasteve | "Just because you can doesn't mean you should.." |
02:33.41 | file | where's my firewire cable... |
02:33.41 | scubasteve | Words to live by. |
02:33.45 | ManxPower | pv2b, I doubt you can get QoS service between you and your ITSP, using the internet. |
02:33.48 | ManxPower | That's more correct |
02:33.53 | Trionnis | there ya go |
02:34.14 | pv2b | all right, then we're in agreement. all i ever said is that it's not impossible, not that it is a good idea. |
02:34.36 | file | hrm USB2 will have to do |
02:36.14 | ManxPower | come to think of it, if we ever want to use an ITSP for mission critical stuff, maybe a frame relay with CIR would be a good solution |
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02:44.22 | exoxe | I'm assuming "Urgent handler" is a bad thing, as my voip keeps chopping up |
02:44.59 | pv2b | probably is. i'm getting that right before segfaults i'm getting with asterisk with uclinux and mips. |
02:46.02 | exoxe | I also can't get freeworlddialup to work properly.. but i don't know if they're just having problems or not |
02:46.11 | exoxe | (i'm an asterisk newbie :) |
02:46.53 | blitzrage | exoxe: you'll see that if you run safe_asterisk |
02:47.12 | exoxe | i'm running asterisk -dv(n+1) |
02:48.07 | exoxe | i ran the demo that's in the default extensions.conf, and it kept getting choppier and choppier as seconds passed |
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03:07.25 | fabsoft | hi !! |
03:08.16 | fabsoft | anyone know if ubuntu kernel supports misdn with asterisk-misdn-chan |
03:08.20 | fabsoft | ? |
03:08.33 | fabsoft | i have a hfc-pci card .... |
03:08.38 | Nugget | "ubuntu kernel"? |
03:08.41 | Nugget | it's linux. |
03:09.17 | fabsoft | ya is linux with ubuntu patches |
03:09.42 | fabsoft | i couldn't get it works ... |
03:10.10 | fabsoft | i tried to patch vanilla source with i4l e mISDN |
03:10.25 | fabsoft | but nothing ... my card doesn't works |
03:12.00 | fabsoft | i see that most people use zapata module patched, but i dont find enough docs |
03:12.24 | fabsoft | Nugget, do you use ubuntu ? |
03:12.37 | Nugget | No. I don't use linux. |
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03:13.13 | Qwell[] | Nugget runs astwin32 |
03:13.21 | TommyTheKid | :( |
03:13.30 | Nugget | haha |
03:13.35 | Nugget | that would be painful |
03:13.41 | file | astwind? you stink. |
03:13.42 | Qwell[] | That would be incredibly dumb, heh |
03:13.44 | fabsoft | hehe |
03:13.52 | fabsoft | switch to linux ... !! |
03:14.00 | TommyTheKid | Qwell[]: remember the Brijn thing earlier? |
03:14.01 | Nugget | obviously Un run asterisk in cygwin. |
03:14.04 | Qwell[] | TommyTheKid: I do |
03:14.11 | Nugget | Linux is poo. |
03:14.13 | Qwell[] | Nugget: un run? |
03:14.26 | TommyTheKid | I am trying to do something similar.. where a context that simply says "go away" |
03:14.45 | TommyTheKid | you seemed quite adamant about not using _. |
03:15.01 | Qwell[] | TommyTheKid: Unless you know exactly what you're doing, _. is horrible |
03:15.08 | Nugget | _. is like perl. it's dangerous if you don't know how to use it safely. |
03:15.20 | TommyTheKid | however, "i" doesnt seem to catch |
03:15.35 | Qwell[] | TommyTheKid: because he wasn't using it in any of the included contexts |
03:15.57 | TommyTheKid | his situation was a little different.. he was supposed to remove that include :) |
03:16.03 | TommyTheKid | but my i wont catch either |
03:16.05 | fabsoft | anyone use hfc-pci card with asterisk ? |
03:16.31 | Qwell[] | TommyTheKid: Do you have a _.? ;] |
03:16.34 | TommyTheKid | its the *only* exten defined in the context (no includes or anything) |
03:16.42 | TommyTheKid | :) |
03:17.55 | TommyTheKid | maybe I need an s,1,Goto(i) ? :) |
03:18.05 | blitzrage | why would you do that? |
03:18.32 | TommyTheKid | I dunno, I am trying to figure out why my "i" wont match.. |
03:19.40 | exoxe | Unable to open IAX timing interface: No such file or directory <-- what exactly is that interface? I'm not told of a file |
03:19.50 | blitzrage | Qwell[]: whenever I see someone say, "unless you know what you're doing, _. is terrible", I always ask if *they* know when to use it :) |
03:19.55 | exoxe | I think this is why it's all choppy |
03:20.06 | Qwell[] | blitzrage: I didn't say I knew what I was doing. ;) |
03:20.23 | Qwell[] | blitzrage: earlier, Nugget explained how and why he uses it. I was referring to his earlier statement |
03:20.24 | blitzrage | exoxe: do you have trunking enabled? |
03:20.35 | blitzrage | Qwell[]: what did he say? |
03:20.59 | exoxe | trunking? honestly, I'm not sure. I'm running the default files basically, with teliax and FWD implemented |
03:21.01 | Qwell[] | blitzrage: He NoOp's on _.,1, and does everything else on priority 2, I guess |
03:21.10 | blitzrage | ahhh I see |
03:21.23 | blitzrage | that's a valid use |
03:21.28 | Qwell[] | agreed |
03:21.40 | blitzrage | i always use NoOp() as my first priority for documentation |
03:21.54 | TommyTheKid | :) |
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03:25.16 | TommyTheKid | http://nomorepasting.com/paste.php?pasteID=51524 (pastebin is being evil) |
03:27.14 | TommyTheKid | I put my sip client into the "default" context (thats not used for anything else) no matter what I dial, I see nothing on the console, and I get a "fast busy" (and Reorder) |
03:29.13 | Nugget | yeah, I also use NoOp for my first priority for the same reason |
03:29.21 | Nugget | every dialplan I have starts with ,2, :) |
03:29.56 | Nugget | I also use _. for my goofball sip uri dialing thing, which works great but I don't necessarily advocate |
03:30.03 | Nugget | http://slacker.com/~nugget/stuff/extensions.conf |
03:31.21 | Qwell[] | TommyTheKid: no i,1? |
03:31.35 | TommyTheKid | ugh |
03:31.38 | TommyTheKid | they are all n's I think :( |
03:31.59 | Qwell[] | Don't you need a priority 1? |
03:32.09 | Qwell[] | I honestly don't know.. |
03:32.15 | Corydon76-home | Yes, you do |
03:32.18 | TommyTheKid | thats what you get for copying other stuff out of another dial plan :) |
03:32.32 | Qwell[] | Corydon76-home: thanks |
03:32.50 | Nugget | you need a priority 1, but it doesn't have to be the same match string as your priority 2 |
03:32.55 | Qwell[] | right |
03:32.56 | Corydon76-home | n is for the next priority, incremented from the last priority used, irrespective of extension or even context |
03:32.59 | TommyTheKid | ok, but even with 1, still not happy |
03:33.00 | Nugget | exten => _.,1,NoOp(Incoming Call from voicepulse ${CALLERID} for ${EXTEN}@${SIPDOMAIN}) |
03:33.03 | Nugget | exten => _NXXNXXXXXX,2,LookupCIDName |
03:33.05 | Nugget | ^ that works perfectly well |
03:33.26 | Qwell[] | Nugget: yeah, I use a more general match for 1, then go tighter on 2 |
03:33.43 | Corydon76-home | Eeeek, you're using _. ? |
03:33.47 | Nugget | of course |
03:34.02 | ManxPower | Only wankers use _. |
03:34.10 | Corydon76-home | You realize that matches a, o, t, fax, and other special extensions, right? |
03:34.11 | TommyTheKid | can it go the other way.. like say I want to match _91303 -> one gateway, but if it fails, NXXNXXXXXX to the trunk |
03:34.14 | TommyTheKid | lol@wankers |
03:34.24 | Nugget | Of course I realize that. |
03:34.32 | Qwell[] | TommyTheKid: you can |
03:34.40 | Nugget | There's nothing inherently bad about _. |
03:34.47 | Nugget | It's just really easy to shoot your foot with it |
03:35.12 | Nugget | properly constrained it's very useful |
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03:35.30 | Flauto | how are you guys doing |
03:35.56 | Flauto | it is quiet |
03:35.57 | Flauto | hehe |
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03:36.14 | Flauto | okay |
03:36.15 | ManxPower | I think the correct term is "Properly restrained, _. can be useful" |
03:36.25 | Flauto | hehe |
03:36.26 | Flauto | okay |
03:36.27 | Corydon76-home | It's not particularly wise |
03:36.27 | TommyTheKid | Qwell[]: cool that simplifies my [longdistance] context immensely.. I just need to have the trunk have a fakee priority where the others are testing for other gateways (303,720,781) |
03:36.50 | Nugget | it's not wise to use _. unless you comprehend the implications |
03:36.58 | ManxPower | Corydon-w, and the odd thing is that i've never actually found a time where I NEEDED _. To me using _. us just being LAZY. |
03:37.01 | TommyTheKid | can I skip priority numbers (other than jumps) or will it get "angry" |
03:37.12 | Corydon76-home | ManxPower: I'd agree with that |
03:37.14 | ManxPower | TommyTheKid, no, yes |
03:37.16 | Flauto | hey, guys. i have a question |
03:37.26 | TommyTheKid | ManxPower: thanks |
03:37.29 | Corydon76-home | I've also used _X. in some very rare circumstances |
03:37.39 | Nugget | I've never found another way to do sip uri dialing other than my _. hack. |
03:37.47 | Flauto | if i want to limite people to call chinese cell phone numbers which is 0118613 |
03:37.52 | Nugget | and using it for logging (as in the paste above) cannot be replicted with more precise exten matches |
03:38.00 | ManxPower | Corydon-w, Other than international, if I don't know the expected length of a dialed number, then something is wrong with my dialplan |
03:38.02 | Flauto | and the regular phone number are 01186 |
03:38.24 | Corydon76-home | ManxPower: indeed |
03:38.39 | Corydon76-home | Nugget: yes, well, most of us deal with the PSTN |
03:38.40 | Flauto | can i limite the numbers only start other than 13 after countury code |
03:38.49 | Nugget | yeah, with PSTN it's less meaningful. |
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03:39.04 | Nugget | It's easy to imagine receiving IAX or SIP inbounds for unexpected extensions |
03:39.07 | Corydon76-home | Only a few sick individuals use Asterisk entirely without any interface to the PSTN |
03:39.09 | exoxe | err |
03:39.11 | Nugget | and in that event, _. is invaluable |
03:39.20 | Nugget | who said anything about "entirely"? |
03:40.39 | ManxPower | Nugget, For that I use exten => i |
03:40.40 | TommyTheKid | http://pastebin.com/410609 <-- still the same.. no matter what I dial, nothing shows up on the console. |
03:40.48 | TommyTheKid | I am running CVSHEAD from a couple hours ago :) |
03:41.02 | Nugget | perhaps CVS HEAD is broken at the moment. |
03:41.21 | Nugget | it's saturday night and digium is surely drunk right now. :) |
03:41.25 | TommyTheKid | I was trying not to imply that :D |
03:41.49 | TommyTheKid | damn its Saturday, no happy hour tonight :D |
03:41.56 | Corydon76-home | TommyTheKid: SIP phones? |
03:42.09 | TommyTheKid | yes |
03:42.11 | ManxPower | The what are you dialing from/ |
03:42.27 | Corydon76-home | Are you pressing "Send" after dialling? |
03:42.29 | ManxPower | TommyTheKid, dialing in a SIP phone is CONTROLLED BY THE SIP PHONE. |
03:42.29 | TommyTheKid | I said that earlier.. but we found a fundamental flaw (no pri 1) |
03:42.41 | TommyTheKid | I am dialing what would otherwise be a valid extension |
03:42.49 | ManxPower | TommyTheKid, "sip debug" |
03:42.55 | TommyTheKid | yep.. coming |
03:42.58 | Corydon76-home | What makes it NOT a valid extension, then? |
03:43.14 | TommyTheKid | cause i switched the phones context in sip.conf |
03:43.32 | Corydon76-home | and that context exists, in the loaded extensions.conf? |
03:44.06 | Corydon76-home | And you're absolutely sure you haven't typoed the name of the context? |
03:44.57 | TommyTheKid | wow sip debug is noisey ;) |
03:45.12 | ManxPower | TommyTheKid, do a "sip no debug" and "sip debug peer blah" |
03:45.21 | TommyTheKid | http://pastebin.com/410613 |
03:45.25 | Corydon76-home | I find it fascinating the number of people who typo something in the configs, then say, "well the machine should have known what I meant" |
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03:46.50 | TommyTheKid | Corydon76-home: :) like the "n" altho I might have a case there.. perhaps if there is nothing else it *should* start with 1 :) |
03:47.18 | TommyTheKid | line 108 shows it looking |
03:47.36 | Corydon76-home | TommyTheKid: we accept patches |
03:47.40 | TommyTheKid | and then the damned broadworks server started barfing all over the place (will remember hte peer thing nextime :) |
03:47.58 | TommyTheKid | Corydon76-home: I know.. I already got something into CVS .. but that was just a comment in sip.conf.sample :p |
03:48.26 | Corydon76-home | In any case, I don't think you're going to get that into CVS. I can make a good case for why it should NOT |
03:49.42 | TommyTheKid | well I could always have a _.,1,Noop(call from.....) then everything could be n's .. except that breaks the "jump" thing on invalid voicemail boxes .. so I have to be cognizant of the numbering a little bit |
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03:50.09 | Corydon76-home | exten => _11X,n,Playback(foo) exten => 110,n,Playback(bar) exten => 111,s,Playback(baz) |
03:50.39 | implicit | k |
03:50.48 | TommyTheKid | aieee |
03:51.04 | TommyTheKid | I guess I was sorta hoping Qwell was looking at that paste :) |
03:51.05 | Corydon76-home | TommyTheKid: I think we've pretty well established that you don't know what you're doing. Hence, _. is not what you should be doing |
03:51.23 | TommyTheKid | Corydon76-home: I was saying that to be funny :p |
03:51.35 | TommyTheKid | yea I am going on about day 4 or 5 (they all meld together) |
03:51.35 | implicit | TommyTheKid, stfu please :) corydon knwos what he is saying |
03:51.44 | implicit | ;) |
03:54.27 | Corydon76-home | To expand on that, I've written a metric fuckton of code that has gone into CVS |
03:55.04 | TommyTheKid | implicit: I welcome your input too :) EXT: http://pastebin.com/410609 SIP DEBUG: http://pastebin.com/410613 ... I moved the sip client into the "default" context (which as the comment says is basically disabled) but no matter what extension they dial (even one that would otherwise be valid so the cisco dialplan doesnt get me) nothing ever shows up on the console, and extension "i" never gets processed. |
03:56.54 | TommyTheKid | ... er nothing shows up on the console unless sip debug is on :) |
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03:58.00 | TommyTheKid | Also, while we are there... the "broadworks barf" below line 139 looks like they are sending "OPTIONS" .. and * is saying "404" then saying that "OPTIONS" is allowed.. that seems contradictory? |
03:58.04 | Corydon76-home | Well, there's a good reason for that. |
03:58.21 | Corydon76-home | The SIP channel doesn't allow the initial extension to be "i" |
03:58.41 | TommyTheKid | thats a good reason |
03:58.55 | TommyTheKid | so it will catch my IAX "guest" calls at least? |
03:59.09 | Corydon76-home | You have to match something else. Only subsequent extensions (like, in an IVR) can match "i" |
03:59.19 | TommyTheKid | a PRI call should never end up there, but again I am dumb and one never knows :) |
03:59.36 | TommyTheKid | "something else" -> _X. then? |
03:59.46 | Corydon76-home | Similarly, PRI calls will never match "i" initially... |
03:59.55 | Corydon76-home | Sure, that'll work |
04:01.00 | Corydon76-home | Hmmm, I don't think IAX2 will match initial extensions against "i" either |
04:01.36 | TommyTheKid | Corydon76-home: thank you. I don't remember reading anywhere that i could not be matched initially, but I assumed that was the case from what I was seeing.. but I was led to believe that it should, so I kept barking down that path |
04:01.39 | Corydon76-home | Pretty much the only channel type where that will work is with Loopstart FXS channels |
04:01.41 | TommyTheKid | thanks for setting things straight :) |
04:02.53 | implicit | 1 second |
04:02.54 | Corydon76-home | All I had to do was to read the source. :-P |
04:03.09 | implicit | Corydon yeah |
04:03.22 | TommyTheKid | i see. thanks for doing that |
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04:03.58 | exoxe | yeah, so loading up zaptel in freebsd kills my system |
04:04.08 | X-Rob | goooo zaptel! Woo! |
04:04.52 | TommyTheKid | now on that second paste.. like below like 139-ish.. (and I totally thing this could be a config issue) .. the Broadworks server says "OPTIONS" (its a peer) and we say "404" then in the "Allow: " line, OPTIONS is there .. is it malformed on the Broadworks side, or am I missing a config option somewhere? |
04:05.05 | TommyTheKid | 410613 |
04:07.07 | ManxPower | Goto will also git exten => i |
04:10.10 | Corydon76-home | exoxe: so of course, you're going to put zaptel on Linux, right? |
04:10.43 | blitzrage | no way... FreeBSD baby! :) |
04:10.48 | exoxe | i don't think I need it honestly |
04:10.57 | exoxe | er, minus the honestly |
04:11.12 | Corydon76-home | Because, of course, you subscribe to "Use what works" rather than "Use whatever my narrow zionist view demands" |
04:11.14 | exoxe | id on't know anything about asterisk |
04:11.18 | exoxe | so we're tied |
04:11.52 | exoxe | all i want to do is use teliax -> asterisk via iax -> ata -> pots |
04:12.14 | exoxe | apparently i need a zaptel driver for musiconhold though |
04:12.48 | Corydon76-home | Unless you like jerky music |
04:13.13 | exoxe | i'm getting jerky everything right now |
04:13.23 | exoxe | testing calls that is |
04:14.04 | Corydon76-home | pretty pretty blue eyes |
04:14.05 | {zombie} | jerky musiconhold usually means you have silence suppression on your SIP devices |
04:14.22 | {zombie} | you don't need a zaptel driver for MoH |
04:14.47 | exoxe | well, when I run the demo context it's all choppy |
04:15.22 | exoxe | i have 10mbit/1mbit, so i doubt it's bandwidth related |
04:15.32 | {zombie} | what are you calling from? |
04:15.37 | Corydon76-home | No, it's timing-related |
04:15.45 | Corydon76-home | You have no source of timing |
04:15.51 | exoxe | calling FROM cell TO asterisk |
04:16.01 | exoxe | so, what are my options for a timing driver? |
04:16.13 | exoxe | zaptel? |
04:16.16 | Corydon76-home | ztdummy on Linux |
04:16.37 | Corydon76-home | Or it could be that you're running X on the Asterisk server |
04:16.44 | exoxe | nope |
04:16.49 | exoxe | and it's FreeBSD :) |
04:16.54 | blitzrage | guh! |
04:16.55 | Corydon76-home | Or the system is running at above 100% utilization |
04:17.09 | Corydon76-home | i.e. above a load avg of 1.0 on a single CPU |
04:17.12 | exoxe | no, it isn't |
04:17.13 | blitzrage | people... don't make Asterisk more complicated than it needs to be. Just run it on goddamn Linux |
04:17.19 | exoxe | haha |
04:17.24 | blitzrage | and get over it |
04:17.25 | Corydon76-home | Yeah, seriously |
04:17.48 | X-Rob | Yeah! |
04:17.55 | exoxe | i should see if it runs better on my router |
04:18.04 | Corydon76-home | I run BSD on firewalls, no problem. FreeBSD is a great OS. However, I use Linux for Asterisk. |
04:18.07 | X-Rob | Does your router run linux? |
04:18.14 | blitzrage | X-Rob: sorry, no X-Rob's allowed |
04:18.35 | exoxe | yeah |
04:18.40 | X-Rob | blitzrage - I'm, uh, I'm starting my _own_ Yeah club, and -you're- not allowed to join! |
04:18.43 | exoxe | just only has.. nos pace |
04:18.47 | exoxe | no space*, heh |
04:18.58 | blitzrage | X-Rob: thats cool.. I don't want to be part of no stinkin' club :) |
04:19.18 | Corydon76-home | I should join a club and beat you over the head with it. :-P |
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04:20.16 | X-Rob | exoxe - buy a hard drive from ebay. Not onlt do you get a cheap hard drive, you also get a good chance of getting someone's data, too. |
04:20.32 | blitzrage | schweet :) |
04:21.04 | X-Rob | Mwahahah. |
04:22.30 | blitzrage | X-Rob: yah, I noticed it too, but I wasn't going to say anything :) |
04:22.37 | X-Rob | heh |
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04:25.28 | exoxe | haha |
04:27.00 | TommyTheKid | http://pastebin.com/410645 <-- Can someone point out where I am going wrong here. (other than having anything from Lucent on my network, but its another persons server that I am supposed to play nice with) |
04:27.42 | X-Rob | TommyTheKid - please use pastebin.ca in future, it's much faster than .com |
04:27.52 | TommyTheKid | ok |
04:28.39 | TommyTheKid | its also more purple :) |
04:28.59 | X-Rob | but also post your [lucentaes] extensions.conf context |
04:29.22 | TommyTheKid | ok |
04:32.09 | TommyTheKid | do you need all the includes too? |
04:33.58 | exoxe | hmm, well since my server froze, and i restarted, asterisk is working great! |
04:35.11 | TommyTheKid | http://pastebin.ca/27043 |
04:35.24 | TommyTheKid | .. sorry I have to use a remote VNC window, so its sorta slow :) |
04:37.36 | TommyTheKid | http://lists.cs.columbia.edu/pipermail/sip-implementors/2004-December/007804.html ? |
04:39.12 | Nugget | remote vnc? your asterisk server is running x11? wow. |
04:39.20 | TommyTheKid | no |
04:39.25 | TommyTheKid | VNC is on a remote sunray server |
04:39.27 | TommyTheKid | long story |
04:39.49 | TommyTheKid | its a "shared desktop" with the other guy I am working with (the lucent d00d) |
04:40.00 | Nugget | ah |
04:40.11 | TommyTheKid | .. and yes I am too lazy to open another ssh session to the server :) |
04:40.26 | TommyTheKid | .. plus he wants to "watch" it get fixed |
04:41.20 | TommyTheKid | my asterisk server doesn't even have GTK (found out when I tried to compile gastman.. not that I even know if Iwant that) |
04:41.45 | TommyTheKid | someone was saying they liked something in here .. but I have long since forgotten what it was :D |
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04:43.42 | TommyTheKid | http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2005-January/084537.html |
04:43.48 | TommyTheKid | i know kinda old.. but :) |
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04:49.57 | Brijn | Hello all |
04:51.02 | TommyTheKid | wb Brijn |
04:52.16 | Brijn | Quick Q: MOH works fine if used putting a phone on hold, or directy with MusicOnHold(default).. But I only get a really short blip when I enter a meetme |
04:52.39 | Brijn | ztdummy is loaded and sound is fine if a second person joins.. Same effect when using Festival |
04:53.16 | Brijn | Tommy: Hi! Got a simple IVT working :) All calls go where I like them to go.. I'm almost happy ;) |
04:53.22 | TommyTheKid | YAY |
04:53.22 | Brijn | IVR |
04:54.07 | TommyTheKid | line 10170-10191 in chan_sip.c |
04:54.17 | TommyTheKid | I just gotta figure out how to get res=0 |
05:01.41 | exoxe | haha, south carolina beat tennessee |
05:02.04 | Brijn | Other people having probs with FWD? |
05:02.35 | exoxe | i was, when using my PC to call asterisk |
05:02.39 | exoxe | fwd to fwd |
05:03.05 | Brijn | Call Me seems to have a problem, or maybe it's just my current config :) |
05:04.02 | exoxe | supposedly they're having issues |
05:04.07 | exoxe | i'm headin to bed.. g'night :) |
05:04.09 | cef1000 | #Join asterisk-dev |
05:04.30 | Brijn | bye |
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05:17.55 | TommyTheKid | anyhow.. my solution to the "404" thing is.. http://pastebin.ca/27044 |
05:18.20 | TommyTheKid | however, I can't submit the patch.. someone with an "agreement" maybe? :) |
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05:21.30 | TommyTheKid | wb Qwell[] |
05:22.03 | TommyTheKid | I think I made my solution to the "404" SIP OPTIONS respons --> http://pastebin.ca/27044 |
05:23.12 | Qwell[] | You hacked the code to get around a SIP response? |
05:23.20 | TommyTheKid | sorta |
05:23.49 | TommyTheKid | I am not sure what a "proper" response to "OPTIONS" would be.. but "200 OK" sounds better than "404 Not Found" |
05:23.59 | TommyTheKid | tho I do understand now where the 404 was coming from (no extension) |
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05:30.22 | Psyiode | are all 25 of you asleep? |
05:30.32 | Psyiode | are all 285 of you asleep? |
05:30.39 | TommyTheKid | Qwell[]: is the code reasonable? .. like the logic of what I am doing (I know line 15/16 should not have - and + on a blank line) |
05:34.20 | TommyTheKid | I am thinking there should be a check for a null extension in that if statement and then it should note in the comment that its likely for application level pings? |
05:34.44 | Qwell[] | TommyTheKid: It is VERY likely a config problem. It's doing what it should be doing. |
05:35.10 | TommyTheKid | I asked if it was a config problem earlier, and no one spoke up :) |
05:35.29 | TommyTheKid | http://pastebin.ca/27043 |
05:42.33 | TommyTheKid | see RFC2543 7.2.1 for my reasoning of choosing "OK" too btw, I thought about "485 Ambiguous" (since there isnt a "user part") .. which is why I put it down there right before the default return -1 |
05:42.58 | Qwell[] | TommyTheKid: What is the SIP device? |
05:43.13 | TommyTheKid | its a Broadworks server |
05:43.29 | TommyTheKid | and I believe its "abusing" the OPTIONS as a sort of "SIP PING" |
05:43.39 | Qwell[] | perhaps |
05:43.42 | marc324 | ne1 know SER here? |
05:44.00 | Qwell[] | marc324: I bet somebody in #ser or #openser does |
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05:44.22 | marc324 | ser channel is empty |
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05:44.50 | TommyTheKid | marc324: i know a precious little, but I can try |
05:46.12 | pauldy | hrm after recording a voicemail and haivng it forwarded to me it look like my inband dtmf issue is caused by |
05:46.14 | pauldy | no audio |
05:46.20 | marc324 | how do you add user using db -- the confirmation,ha1,ha2 are not generated. |
05:46.36 | TommyTheKid | pauldy: that does tend to cause issues ;p |
05:46.46 | pauldy | yea it is beating me down |
05:47.27 | marc324 | is there a SER channel? |
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05:48.44 | dalfry | marc324, having issues with SER? |
05:48.49 | marc324 | yes |
05:48.56 | dalfry | me too :p |
05:49.44 | dalfry | what problem do you have? |
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05:50.38 | marc324 | i want to add user without using serctl. |
05:52.03 | dalfry | you using mysql? |
05:52.22 | dalfry | have you tried serweb? |
05:52.33 | marc324 | yes |
05:52.49 | marc324 | i'm building a custom web interface |
05:53.44 | dalfry | okay... so does serweb use serctl in the background or does it fire queries directly to mysql? |
05:54.02 | dalfry | if all it does is inserts in the database, you should be able to get that code from serweb |
05:54.18 | dalfry | sorry if i am not making sense |
05:54.34 | marc324 | ok. |
05:54.50 | dalfry | makes sense? :) |
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05:57.50 | marc324 | the ha1,ha2 field in the user table is problem. |
05:58.30 | dalfry | why is that? |
05:59.42 | marc324 | here is example of what serctl puts into that field : how do you add user using db -- the confirmation,ha1,ha2 are not generated. |
05:59.42 | marc324 | <TommyTheKid> pauldy: that does tend to cause issues ;p |
05:59.43 | marc324 | <pauldy> yea it is beating me down |
05:59.43 | marc324 | <marc324> is there a SER channel? |
06:00.11 | marc324 | ef14cbde69e0092442ec28b3cb611d84 |
06:00.12 | GXTi | time to reconfigure aterisk |
06:00.15 | GXTi | asterisk, blah |
06:00.46 | TommyTheKid | marc324: is that like a hash or something? |
06:00.53 | marc324 | yes. |
06:00.57 | marc324 | field ha1,ha2 |
06:01.17 | TommyTheKid | you must be bored :D |
06:01.35 | marc324 | why? |
06:02.28 | marc324 | how do you create those field using sql? |
06:03.05 | TommyTheKid | MD5(blah) |
06:03.07 | TommyTheKid | ? |
06:03.55 | marc324 | also there is a 'confirmation' field with similar content. |
06:04.52 | TommyTheKid | select * from user where `username`=$user and `password`=MD5($password) |
06:05.04 | TommyTheKid | there needs to be more `'s in there :p |
06:05.19 | TommyTheKid | the table name should ideally be surrounded too |
06:06.15 | TommyTheKid | isnt serctl a shell script? |
06:06.24 | marc324 | ok. but the question is how to create the md5 field. |
06:06.50 | TommyTheKid | oh like the actual field in the db? maybe make it type=password ? |
06:08.12 | TommyTheKid | look for the script that inits the DB for ser |
06:08.18 | marc324 | the table has fields: username,domain,password,first_name,last_name,phone,..., confirmation,ha1,ha2 |
06:08.23 | TommyTheKid | if its on Solaris 10, it has to come with Linux too :p |
06:08.37 | marc324 | field confirmation,ha1,ha2 are encrypted. |
06:09.02 | TommyTheKid | i guess I don't understand quite what you are tryin to do |
06:10.08 | marc324 | insert into table username,domain,password.... but the ha1,ha2 field stay empty. |
06:12.01 | TommyTheKid | password should be MD5'd (or whatever other hash algorithm that ser supports) .. what is ha[12] and confirmation ? |
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06:12.40 | marc324 | ha1,ha2,confirmation are fields with encrypted content.... |
06:15.28 | marc324 | password field is NOT hashed. |
06:16.08 | marc324 | serctl puts encrypted content into ha,ha2. |
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06:17.38 | Uberbot | Hi all. |
06:17.41 | TommyTheKid | hmm well then I was mistaken about how it worked |
06:17.44 | JerJer | why not figure out how serctl does it? |
06:18.25 | Uberbot | Can someone tell me what is wrong with this line from a macro definition? It doesn't seem to actually call the script. |
06:18.26 | Uberbot | exten => s,2,System(/mnt/media/scripts/cid.pl "${ARG1}", "${ARG2}"); |
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06:21.39 | marc324 | ha1,ha2 is encryption of what? |
06:25.23 | TommyTheKid | thats a good question |
06:25.39 | TommyTheKid | look for the serctl script and see what its putting in there? |
06:25.51 | TommyTheKid | hah.. I have a new patch |
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06:35.46 | masked | can someone give me some tips as to running * behind nat? |
06:39.42 | JerJer | port foward |
06:39.51 | JerJer | don't use SIP |
06:40.22 | masked | really...? |
06:40.24 | masked | hrmm |
06:40.38 | masked | what ports? 5060 and 10000 to 20000? |
06:40.57 | masked | and im not really familiar with anything other than sip at this point. |
06:41.21 | blitzrage | TommyTheKid: you around? |
06:41.48 | TommyTheKid | yes |
06:41.59 | blitzrage | TommyTheKid: can I msg you for a second? (re: your bug) |
06:42.03 | TommyTheKid | sure |
06:42.25 | wunderkin | you can narrow the rtp ports down |
06:45.52 | blitzrage | via rtp.conf |
06:46.19 | blitzrage | change the range -- remember its 4 ports per simultaneous channel |
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06:46.49 | blitzrage | so determine what your max simultaneous call limit is going to be for the box, multiple that number by 4, and that gives you the port range required for RTP |
06:49.00 | masked | ok thanks, but why do i still get Timed Out on connections? |
06:50.04 | masked | are the rtp ports required to registeR? |
06:50.23 | blitzrage | masked: RTP has nothing to do with registration |
06:50.31 | blitzrage | thats the function of the signalling protocol |
06:51.11 | blitzrage | sounds like something is behind a firewall |
06:51.20 | masked | ok, having 5060 tcp fowarded should do the job? |
06:51.24 | masked | yes. there is a firewall |
06:51.53 | masked | not the ideal one as im having troubles with my modem, which unfortunatly means i have to revert back to this modem |
06:52.01 | masked | though the client could be behind a firewall |
06:52.02 | blitzrage | tcp is incorrect |
06:52.12 | blitzrage | its always UDP with asterisk |
06:52.42 | blitzrage | UDP is a connectionless transport protocol -- ideal for real time media (think streaming) |
06:52.56 | JerJer | yay network time change |
06:53.00 | masked | ok |
06:53.33 | blitzrage | tcp doesn't make sense for a voice protocol -- if we were to re-request lost packets with voip, it wouldn't make sense. by the time we sent the request, and got the missed packet, too much time would have occured for it to be of any use |
06:53.59 | blitzrage | if we miss a packet with UDP, we just say, "oh well, guess it didn't make it" and move on to more important packets :) |
06:55.32 | masked | ok, i see |
06:55.37 | blitzrage | anyone have suggestion for a really nice text editor for Linux in Xwindows? (thinking ultraedit stylez...) |
06:56.22 | masked | so 5060 is udp aswell? |
06:57.51 | blitzrage | 01:52 < blitzrage> its always UDP with asterisk |
06:57.58 | masked | tehehe ok |
06:58.50 | konfuzed | kvim |
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06:59.20 | blitzrage | hrmmm... that run in gnome? :) |
06:59.28 | masked | hehe |
06:59.32 | masked | brb modem reboot |
06:59.47 | blitzrage | I'm just getting back into the linux desktop arena... I usually just run WinXP and putty into all my linux servers |
07:01.19 | konfuzed | gvim |
07:01.31 | blitzrage | lol |
07:01.34 | blitzrage | makes sense :) |
07:01.48 | konfuzed | ;^ |
07:01.50 | konfuzed | ) |
07:01.52 | blitzrage | snack time! heh |
07:02.15 | konfuzed | I just put on cat in the hat for my 4.6 yr old |
07:02.18 | *** part/#asterisk KaBewM (n=DA-MAN@66-215-7-106.dhcp.psdn.ca.charter.com) |
07:02.22 | konfuzed | its only 2 am here |
07:02.57 | blitzrage | same here |
07:03.15 | konfuzed | oh you have that movie too |
07:03.23 | konfuzed | 8^) |
07:03.41 | blitzrage | I have no idea what you're talking about :) |
07:03.48 | konfuzed | 2 lines up |
07:03.58 | konfuzed | well two from me |
07:04.12 | konfuzed | I know you meant i line up |
07:04.22 | konfuzed | s/i/1/ |
07:04.25 | blitzrage | what movie? |
07:04.41 | konfuzed | 2 lines up from your comment about same here |
07:05.01 | blitzrage | aha :) |
07:05.07 | blitzrage | I totally hadn't read that line |
07:05.08 | konfuzed | its hard to read some times at 2 am |
07:05.19 | konfuzed | 8^) |
07:05.34 | blitzrage | I missed it because there was a disconnect message directly below it, and I left the room for a snack |
07:05.42 | blitzrage | and then the first line I read was "its only 2 am here" |
07:05.59 | blitzrage | I didn't put cat in the hat on tv :) |
07:06.05 | konfuzed | oh sure |
07:06.42 | konfuzed | i put it on ps2 |
07:06.58 | blitzrage | sorry to hear that |
07:07.08 | blitzrage | xbox is better (when modded) :) |
07:07.31 | blitzrage | I was sorely disappointed with GT3 |
07:07.49 | TommyTheKid | I know this sounds dumb.. but im tired and cant think.. when my phone registers to ast.. it should show up in sip show subscriptions ? |
07:08.01 | blitzrage | sip show peers |
07:08.05 | TommyTheKid | ah |
07:08.22 | TommyTheKid | right.. sorry.. brain fart |
07:08.30 | blitzrage | np... we all get them :) |
07:08.43 | konfuzed | anyone here mess with soekris hardware??? |
07:10.06 | blitzrage | I would love to be able to have asterisk work with the FXS ports on my linksys router |
07:11.06 | blitzrage | uh oh... watching this show about a via rail train that derailed on a show called "Disasters of the Century"... can't be a good train derailment... |
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07:11.22 | masked | blitzrage: thanks dude, its working AOK now |
07:12.01 | konfuzed | im teaching my daughter to be a night owl |
07:12.36 | konfuzed | :^) |
07:12.47 | TommyTheKid | speaking of night owl.. I think its past this kids bedtime |
07:12.55 | konfuzed | she'll be a midnight asterisk master by the age of 12 |
07:13.07 | blitzrage | :) |
07:13.10 | konfuzed | then you'll all be in trouble |
07:13.12 | konfuzed | ;^) |
07:13.20 | blitzrage | I think I'm going to go to bed early tonight... |
07:13.25 | konfuzed | she only woke up at 1:25 |
07:13.36 | blitzrage | masked: coolio |
07:13.46 | konfuzed | %*{} |
07:15.01 | konfuzed | she has already helped me install networks, fix computers and spend my money |
07:15.29 | konfuzed | most importantly she is a devoted Penguin Lover |
07:15.33 | konfuzed | ;^) |
07:15.37 | wunderkin | bleck |
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07:18.00 | konfuzed | anyone here use an p1168* devices ?? |
07:18.10 | konfuzed | pa168* |
07:18.31 | X-Rob | zup? |
07:18.42 | X-Rob | (I am reasonably clued with PA1688) |
07:18.50 | konfuzed | kewl |
07:18.50 | mazzanet | anyone here used app_conference? |
07:19.07 | konfuzed | im looking for real world feedback |
07:19.22 | konfuzed | X-Rob: which brand have you used |
07:19.57 | X-Rob | Oh. Dunno. |
07:20.22 | konfuzed | ive got to get a few and try them out |
07:20.48 | konfuzed | but it takes more than a chip to make a phone/ata |
07:21.19 | X-Rob | Not really. |
07:21.35 | wunderkin | some plastic too |
07:21.39 | X-Rob | They're pretty much all reference designs with a different case |
07:21.44 | konfuzed | a few jacks |
07:21.47 | konfuzed | glue |
07:21.58 | konfuzed | hhhmmm |
07:22.07 | konfuzed | white brand able in other words |
07:22.17 | konfuzed | I could put my own sticker on it |
07:22.51 | konfuzed | label the rj45 as phone 2 and the rj11 as wan |
07:22.53 | konfuzed | ;^) |
07:23.39 | konfuzed | certainly there is some differences between pa168 devices ? |
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07:24.12 | bartpbx | good morning |
07:24.18 | konfuzed | quality eth0 vs crabs |
07:24.36 | konfuzed | quality power vs static antenna |
07:24.41 | konfuzed | that sort a thing |
07:24.43 | konfuzed | ;^) |
07:24.58 | bartpbx | I have a little mantis question.. How do I reopen a Bug or add a note to an resolved Bug? |
07:25.29 | bartpbx | I don't see a button or link to do so |
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07:27.44 | bartpbx | hello.. everyone is sleeping? |
07:27.52 | konfuzed | no |
07:28.14 | konfuzed | but you probably dont why my 6th sense worth |
07:28.15 | bartpbx | do you have a hint or me? |
07:28.38 | konfuzed | it just came to me |
07:28.40 | konfuzed | ;^) |
07:29.01 | bartpbx | Sorry.. I don't understand.. my english is not that good |
07:29.23 | konfuzed | go to the mantis project site and look up their user guide |
07:29.41 | konfuzed | sorry ... thats the best I can do |
07:29.46 | konfuzed | ;^) |
07:29.48 | bartpbx | ok |
07:30.14 | konfuzed | im not really that psychic |
07:30.27 | bartpbx | *ggg* |
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07:31.38 | bartpbx | oh |
07:31.43 | X-Rob | bart - you can not do that |
07:31.48 | bartpbx | 105175 |
07:31.48 | X-Rob | open a new bug if you have to. |
07:31.54 | bartpbx | i just discoverd it |
07:32.16 | bartpbx | can you do it for me? |
07:32.37 | bartpbx | I'm talking about 4832 |
07:32.57 | konfuzed | g that must have been toooooo easy for no one to jab my psychosis |
07:33.25 | konfuzed | time for hot cocoa |
07:33.27 | konfuzed | ;^) |
07:33.50 | X-Rob | bartpbx - for that sorta stuff, probably better to mention it on trac.openpbx.org as thats' where anthm is now doing most of his devel work. |
07:34.03 | X-Rob | If it's something 'wrong', then open a new bug. |
07:34.20 | bartpbx | ok, anthm is now at openpbx? |
07:34.37 | X-Rob | bartpbx - as far as I know, yes. |
07:34.43 | bartpbx | hm |
07:47.36 | bartpbx | I'm not sure If we want to move to openpbx currently |
07:48.02 | konfuzed | what about using both |
07:48.41 | bartpbx | hm. If i have a cluster of 5 Servers they shuld work the same :-) |
07:49.04 | konfuzed | scale |
07:49.15 | bartpbx | the patch of anthm worked great |
07:49.30 | konfuzed | what did it do |
07:49.40 | bartpbx | but i startet testing the modified version from markster and somehow It is not working right |
07:49.45 | bartpbx | check mantis 4832 |
07:49.55 | bartpbx | the sip realtime cluster |
07:50.01 | masked | bartpbx: how would one go about setting up a cluster? |
07:50.27 | konfuzed | peer two or > * |
07:50.42 | bartpbx | masked, sorry, I don't understand your question |
07:50.54 | konfuzed | cluster of 5 servers |
07:51.11 | bartpbx | what would you like to know? |
07:52.12 | masked | could you point me to some information about setting up a asterisk cluster? |
07:52.27 | bartpbx | We are using the realtime way |
07:52.39 | bartpbx | just let all servers share a big DB |
07:52.59 | bartpbx | with patch 4832 it starts working for SIP Clients |
07:53.00 | konfuzed | as in big user db or config db |
07:53.08 | bartpbx | userdb |
07:53.16 | konfuzed | suck up configs from the same database |
07:53.41 | bartpbx | we publish the configs via rsync + scripts |
07:53.56 | bartpbx | so we can update the cluster step by step |
07:54.13 | bartpbx | remove server from cluster than update test and put back into the cluster |
07:54.38 | masked | sounds interesting, can easily find info about using asterisk with a db? |
07:55.43 | bartpbx | look into the wiki. realtime is what you shult look at |
07:55.44 | konfuzed | hmmmm will this still work basically the same if each server is say at a different physical location (house on the street) |
07:56.02 | bartpbx | yes |
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07:56.17 | bartpbx | our cluster is spread over two datacenters currently |
07:56.31 | konfuzed | i suppose adding more devices be tween phone and did mostly just adds latency to the call |
07:56.38 | konfuzed | hmm kewl |
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07:57.33 | masked | bartpbx: could i possibly get your email from u incase i have a question about your cluster setup in the future? |
07:57.43 | bartpbx | sure |
07:57.47 | konfuzed | i got two network projects in the scope that I want to put asterisk on when they get setup |
07:58.22 | konfuzed | one is a neighbourhood wifi setup |
07:58.43 | konfuzed | the other is a low income housing apartment building |
07:59.18 | bartpbx | cool |
07:59.22 | bartpbx | sounds interessing |
07:59.43 | konfuzed | the hard part is predicting when they actually sign the check |
08:00.00 | konfuzed | the actual network project has tobe running first of course |
08:00.21 | bartpbx | :-) |
08:00.31 | konfuzed | so perhaps by the end of the year if im lucky |
08:00.55 | bartpbx | i first had to check what predicting is :-) but now i know |
08:00.55 | konfuzed | damn beuroacratic types |
08:02.40 | konfuzed | it could all run on soekris hardware by the looks of it. |
08:02.54 | konfuzed | i like the one hardware platform idea |
08:03.07 | konfuzed | with simplicity modularity and scalability |
08:03.10 | konfuzed | to an extent |
08:03.22 | konfuzed | all things relative yadda yadda |
08:03.29 | bartpbx | i dont know soekris |
08:03.38 | konfuzed | its a .com |
08:03.47 | konfuzed | hardware |
08:03.54 | bartpbx | ah |
08:04.01 | bartpbx | got it |
08:04.46 | konfuzed | i could do iax across the whole thing starting at the DID |
08:07.42 | konfuzed | soekris hardware platform for a wifi mesh with * peers/proxies at each gateway |
08:09.13 | konfuzed | ending with an ATA-wifiwan to plug into the existing home phone wiring |
08:09.29 | bartpbx | sounds interessting |
08:09.34 | konfuzed | grandma can use her touchtone rotary phone |
08:09.40 | konfuzed | ;^) |
08:09.48 | konfuzed | well dont tell anyone |
08:09.52 | konfuzed | its a secret |
08:09.54 | konfuzed | ;^) |
08:10.10 | konfuzed | 100 % Open Source Technologies |
08:10.43 | konfuzed | hardware designs might not be 100 % |
08:10.48 | konfuzed | 8^) |
08:11.12 | konfuzed | creative utilization is my own |
08:11.22 | konfuzed | based on much prior inevtiveness of course |
08:11.40 | masked | konfuzed: i have been considering doing much the same thing |
08:11.49 | masked | can i get your email for future reference? |
08:11.49 | konfuzed | like electricity all the way up to #asterisk |
08:12.01 | masked | #* |
08:12.08 | konfuzed | potty break |
08:12.21 | masked | im out |
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08:23.34 | konfuzed | damn budget users ;^) |
08:24.06 | tzafrir_laptop | any idea why: Dial(Zap/1/123456,3) ; will not stop dialing after 3 seconds? |
08:24.39 | tzafrir_laptop | asterisk/zaptel 1.0.9/1.0.9.1 |
08:31.30 | bsdfreak | negatory |
08:34.29 | X-Rob | tzafrir_laptop - tried it with a higher number? (eg, 5) and what type of Zap? |
08:34.52 | bon | ok, so what if you had a nortel meridian1 |
08:34.58 | bon | what do i need to connect it with *? |
08:35.55 | X-Rob | a cable? |
08:36.15 | bon | heh, like what cards etc. |
08:36.30 | X-Rob | You'll need someone who knows what a meridian1 is then. |
08:36.40 | X-Rob | but I'd suggest a PRI or BRI card, depending on what the pbx supports. |
08:36.40 | bon | i suppose so :) |
08:37.42 | bon | i see |
08:37.44 | bon | thanks |
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08:40.12 | bartpbx | X-Ron: Could you please reopen the bug 4832 so that I can add some notes to it? |
08:40.18 | bartpbx | sorry.. X-Rob |
08:40.28 | tzafrir_laptop | X-Rob, x100p. But why should it matter? isn't this a high-level chan_zap issue? |
08:41.06 | tzafrir_laptop | Asterisk should simply cut off the call Asterisk knows that the call was not answered. |
08:41.32 | tzafrir_laptop | Does the "timeout" parameter refer to an unanswred call? |
08:43.42 | tzafrir_laptop | sorry, ignore the last line |
08:48.36 | tzafrir_laptop | X-Rob, and yes, I tried higher numbers. |
08:53.22 | X-Rob | tzafrir_laptop - it should work, and I use it in my dialplans to go to voicemail. I'm wondering if there's some difference in FXS/FXO ports having to 'dial' which takes a noticable time and can't really tell if the call is answered or not, and BRI/PRI which dial instantly and know when the calls answered |
08:54.57 | X-Rob | Well. FXS can tell. FXO can't. |
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09:11.20 | tzafrir_laptop | asterisk pronts in the CLI "answered" when the remote party answred |
09:11.48 | tzafrir_laptop | So I believe that chan_zap knows when the channel was answered |
09:12.20 | tzafrir_laptop | It has to know that. It needs to start pushing voice at that point |
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09:47.13 | Igbothom | homeless hacker: http://data.4channel.org/g/src/1130448907246.jpg |
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10:07.54 | jpcarvalho | Hello All , someone with a good heart to help me rate my cdr database using Crystal Reports?! Or.. share a rate engine for my database ( postgresql ) ?! |
10:09.21 | jpcarvalho | someone alive? |
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10:12.52 | OSPanic | hello, anyone around? |
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10:14.27 | jpcarvalho | Someone alive?! |
10:15.11 | OSPanic | me, but i wait for alive msg also ;) |
10:16.19 | mazzanet | from the cli, can i play an mp3 down a particular channel |
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11:06.21 | OSPanic | how can i install a asterisk daemon? i can't find asterisk in the runlevel list, is that possible? |
11:10.33 | jontow | usually one starts asterisk with a wrapper script, not as a daemon, itself. |
11:12.07 | mazzanet | can i hangup a sip channel from cli? |
11:14.14 | stoffell | mazzanet, you can, try 'help' at cli |
11:14.36 | OSPanic | thx jontow, i make my first linux steps, i will look what i can solve |
11:16.35 | X-Rob_ | mazzanet, soft hangup |
11:16.48 | mazzanet | got it |
11:17.06 | mazzanet | now |
11:17.13 | mazzanet | with Monitor() |
11:17.34 | mazzanet | will it overwrite the file next time it needs to record? |
11:19.13 | X-Rob_ | yes, I think. |
11:19.45 | mazzanet | can i make it not do it if it does? :P |
11:19.52 | jontow | you have the source |
11:19.55 | jontow | you can do anything you want. |
11:23.23 | tzafrir_laptop | OSPanic, which distro? |
11:23.31 | OSPanic | suse 10 |
11:24.04 | tzafrir_laptop | did you install asterisk from any package? I don't think that there are decent asterisk packages for suse |
11:24.39 | tzafrir_laptop | there is a "redhat" init.d script in the source distro. I'm not sure how well it is adapted to suse (e.g: service dependencies) |
11:25.04 | tzafrir_laptop | (which is one of the only things I actually like in suse) |
11:29.05 | OSPanic | tzafrir_laptop do mean the asterisk shell script? |
11:31.34 | tzafrir_laptop | OSPanic, 'asterisk' is the daemon executable itself. |
11:32.19 | tzafrir_laptop | in order for you to see something in the runlevels list you need to have a script in /etc/init.d/ with a number of specially-formatted headers. |
11:32.33 | tzafrir_laptop | See /etc/init.d/README or something similar |
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11:33.45 | tzafrir_laptop | SuSE, unlike most distros, implments the LSB 1.3 standard of service dependencies: you can tell a service to start after another service |
11:34.15 | tzafrir_laptop | (this is no surprise, as that part of the standard was modeled after suse's implemenetation) |
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11:41.49 | jpcarvalho | Hello All, please i need a app for rate my actual Postgresql db.. |
11:42.00 | jpcarvalho | please , any clues? |
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11:43.29 | BladeRunner05 | mycti:~# lsmod |
11:43.29 | BladeRunner05 | Module Size Used by Tainted: P |
11:43.29 | BladeRunner05 | capi 6862 0 |
11:43.29 | BladeRunner05 | divacapi 252352 0 |
11:43.29 | BladeRunner05 | kernelcapi 56880 2 [capi divacapi] |
11:43.30 | BladeRunner05 | diva_mtpx 315972 0 |
11:43.32 | BladeRunner05 | diva_idi 16080 1 |
11:43.34 | BladeRunner05 | divas 105420 0 |
11:43.36 | BladeRunner05 | divadidd 45576 0 [divacapi diva_mtpx diva_idi divas] |
11:43.41 | BladeRunner05 | sorry for the paste |
11:43.48 | BladeRunner05 | wrong key pressing |
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11:44.52 | BladeRunner05 | Who can get me information about installing eicon diva on debian kernel 2.6.x ? |
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11:49.56 | jpcarvalho1 | Hello all , please any clues about how to rate my cdr database ( i'm using postgrseql ) ?! |
11:54.41 | jontow | i give it a 6 out of 10 on the nevahseenit scale |
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11:58.56 | Cheetah | hey folks :) |
11:59.20 | Cheetah | i was wondering if it it possible for asterisk to TRANSFER a call that comes in via ISDN to another ISDN number? |
11:59.26 | Cheetah | without creating a second call on the card |
12:00.15 | jpcarvalho1 | Guys , please any clues about rate my cdr's ?! |
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12:05.54 | Cheetah | hmmmm :D |
12:09.02 | xheliox | Cheetah: I'm not expert, but I don't believe so. |
12:09.03 | xheliox | no* |
12:14.13 | Cheetah | xheliox, protocol-technically its possible though, right? I mean, I can use my IDSN phone to transfer calls. Why is it not possible then? ;) |
12:16.58 | jpcarvalho1 | Guys |
12:17.43 | xheliox | Cheetah: Hmm, I've been so long since I've messed with ISDN, I honestly can't remember. If that's the case, I couldn't see why not, but don't ask me how. :) |
12:18.28 | Cheetah | :D |
12:18.30 | Cheetah | thx |
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12:21.28 | Druken | wholly shit... that meet asterisk is 200 usd.... |
12:21.30 | walhala | hi |
12:21.31 | Druken | fuck that... |
12:22.04 | xheliox | What Druken? |
12:22.17 | walhala | does anyone succesful get LVS + asterisk work ? |
12:23.17 | Druken | xheliox: http://www.astricon.net/meetasterisk/ |
12:23.23 | xheliox | Yeah, I just found it. |
12:23.29 | xheliox | Why is that so unreasonable? |
12:23.42 | Druken | because i'm a cheap fuck :) |
12:23.49 | xheliox | Days worth of training for $200 doesn't seem out of line. |
12:24.17 | walhala | Nobody try to do LVS with Asterisk ? |
12:24.51 | Druken | apparently no one here at the moment has... what is LVS ? |
12:25.04 | xheliox | walhala: There's probably like 5 people actually awake in the channel right now. |
12:25.33 | Druken | i doubt even that many |
12:25.52 | xheliox | Druken: You an openpbx supporter? |
12:26.00 | walhala | LVS is linux virtual server it's a load balancing software |
12:26.08 | Druken | i'm currently an idler.... |
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12:26.25 | xheliox | Do you think OpenPBX is a good idea, and why? |
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12:26.45 | walhala | what is openPBX ? |
12:26.50 | mrtwister | walhala, it will work but since zaptel is kernel module, you will have problems with ivr qand moh |
12:27.12 | Druken | i don't know if it's a good idea.... in most cases, i'm happy with what asterisk has to offer me... i have yet come across a problem i haven't been able to overcome |
12:27.28 | xheliox | It's an "open source" fork of Asterisk. |
12:27.36 | xheliox | But I'd like someone to explain to me how Asterisk isn't open source. |
12:27.36 | Druken | i'm awear |
12:27.45 | Druken | oh that... hehehe |
12:27.47 | xheliox | walhala, asked. |
12:28.08 | xheliox | I'm aware of the dual licensing, which may not be in the spirit of the GPL, but still -- how is it not open source? |
12:28.09 | walhala | yeah ok it's just a fork |
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12:28.54 | Druken | imoho, it is open source... when i do a cvs checkout.. i'm pretty sure i'm gettin the source :) |
12:29.24 | xheliox | All the code I see is licensed under the GPL, no? And if I choose to contribute directly to the source, I have to sign a waiver that they can modify it privately, right? But they'll still GPL it.. just not always the changes? Sounds like BSD style licensing, which is open source, no? |
12:29.29 | azzie | xheliox, when you commit your code to asterisk, I believe you have to give up your GPL rights to allow asterisk to be dual-licensed |
12:29.58 | xheliox | azzie: But isn't the code still licensed under GPL? |
12:30.04 | xheliox | Thus free to use for all, anyway? |
12:30.11 | xheliox | free to use and modify, rather. |
12:30.13 | azzie | xheliox, it is DUAL licensed... |
12:30.31 | xheliox | Yes, but the other license doesn't cancel out the terms of the GPL, no? |
12:30.39 | coppice | xheliox: it is not open source in the sense that is cannot make use of anything which is open source. thus it is full of half-baked implementations of too many things, and uses very little high quality available material |
12:30.41 | xheliox | They can't revoke the GPL license, no? |
12:31.35 | xheliox | coppice: So it's not GPL compatible with other code, but it is open source, no? |
12:31.50 | coppice | yeah, but as a project it sucks |
12:32.04 | xheliox | Well, the implication on the openpbx site is that it's not open source. |
12:32.07 | azzie | xheliox, http://www.digium.com/disclaim.changes |
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12:32.13 | azzie | read this |
12:32.22 | _Vorian_ | hi all |
12:32.26 | xheliox | And I think that's an unfair assessment. I think it's a version of open source they have a problem with. |
12:32.55 | coppice | they have a problem with a project full of half-baked bits and pieces |
12:33.16 | _Vorian_ | please, can someone tell me: does SetCallerPres() work with OH323 channel? |
12:34.03 | OSPanic | i have copy a asterisk sh in /etc/init.d and i can start & stop asterisk over the runlevel list, but autostart is still staying on no*. maybe i forgot something!? |
12:34.32 | xheliox | OSPanic: Which distribution? |
12:34.38 | OSPanic | suse 10 |
12:34.55 | walhala | If someone use LVS, can you explain me how can i have persistant connection ? |
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12:35.13 | xheliox | Try: chkconfig --add asterisk |
12:36.09 | coppice | walhala: what makes you think it is possible to use LVS? |
12:36.45 | xheliox | azzie: If I submit code to Digium and I sign that waiver, they still GPL the code, which from that point forward, that code will remain and has to remain GPL'ed, right? Can it be revoked? |
12:36.51 | walhala | coppice, I think it's possible yes, but only with persistant connection on SIP channel |
12:37.41 | coppice | walhala: I'm sure it is not possible in the general case. it some restricted uses it might well be possible |
12:37.42 | OSPanic | xheliox I got: asterisk 0:off 1:off 2:off 3:on 4:off 5:on 6:off #what does it mean? |
12:37.49 | xheliox | And is there a waiver required to get things added to the asterisk-addons section? |
12:37.55 | Druken | my god... i have a question... if the openpbx people have such a problem with asterisk... why the fuck are they still here? |
12:37.56 | coppice | xheliox: GPL cannot be revoked |
12:38.08 | azzie | xheliox, yes, but disclaiming copyrights, probably, pisses of many developers. They spent nights working on asterisk, and they have to abandon all their rights now ?? what a nonsence. |
12:38.08 | xheliox | OSPan: It makes that asterisk is setup to start on the 3rd and 5th runlevel. |
12:39.03 | coppice | azzie: that is a very minor issue really. the lack of reuse is what pisses off developers. its immensely wasteful |
12:39.10 | walhala | coppice, why will not possible ? explain please |
12:39.23 | azzie | coppice, reuse of ? |
12:39.23 | xheliox | I never understood why people who wrote under the GPL were always so concerned about copyright. I'm not picking sides here, I'm just trying to better understand the situation. By giving up copyright, what are you really giving up? As the code is already public and modifiable and required to follow GPL rules? |
12:39.37 | OSPanic | and what is the runlevel for a daemon start of asterisk? |
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12:40.03 | coppice | walhala: well, if you have TDM hardware, for example, I fail to see how you could load balance with LVS. Calls need to be handled by a specific server |
12:40.28 | azzie | xheliox, it will be Mike Spencer name on the code's title, and not yours :) |
12:40.39 | xheliox | Mark* |
12:40.46 | azzie | Mark, sorry |
12:40.47 | coppice | xheliox: look at the disclaimer I put in some of the dsp.c code 5 years ago :-) |
12:40.48 | xheliox | azzie: Fair enough. |
12:41.34 | walhala | coppice, i just need to make load balacing on to SIP |
12:41.51 | xheliox | If a perspective employer wanted to see my code, it's not like they could deny I wrote it, no? :) |
12:42.39 | xheliox | coppice: What did you mean by reuse? Not being able to use existing libs? |
12:42.49 | coppice | walhala: that might work, but you'll have to check with others to see if there are any pitfalls. |
12:42.54 | azzie | xheliox, yesw they ca... see the url above :) |
12:43.19 | coppice | xheliox: chan_sip is garbage. good SIP libraries exist. * can't use them |
12:43.59 | azzie | coppice, oh now I understand why they did not use normal sip stacks!! so simple. thank you :) |
12:44.28 | coppice | xheliox: in implemeting T.38 I wanted my code to get into CVS. After making something work with a GPL ASN.1 library, i then had to do several extra days work to eliminate the library just so I could give away the result to digium |
12:45.03 | xheliox | coppice: One of my unanswered questions was, could you have submitted that to asterisk-addons? |
12:45.06 | xheliox | Isn't that it's purpose? |
12:45.22 | coppice | asterisk-addons is a little like a waste-bin |
12:45.47 | xheliox | I thought it was for products with questionable licensing issues? (or partly?) |
12:46.01 | xheliox | like mysql and mp3. |
12:46.28 | coppice | mysql is not questionable at all. they told digium to take it out |
12:47.18 | xheliox | Oh? I thought MySQL had some incompatible open source language in their licensing too.. |
12:47.54 | xheliox | Or that's what RedHat had been claiming for months while we all waited for 4.x to appear in their repositories. :) |
12:47.59 | coppice | MySQL's client lib used to be more liberal. they changed it to pure GPL, and * could no longer use it |
12:48.30 | xheliox | But you can, and I do :) |
12:49.28 | xheliox | If I wanted to write an alternative to chan_sip.. could I not do so on my own, using better sip libs and contribute it to asterisk-addons? Or no? |
12:51.08 | azzie | two sip stacks is exactly what * needs... to make it more confusing |
12:51.16 | xheliox | Is that what I asked? |
12:51.40 | xheliox | I'm not suggesting it should be done. I'm wondering if it can? And does that require a waiver? |
12:52.07 | azzie | xheliox, you can put it to add-ons. you can put it to your own web site. you can put give it to openpbx. you can't put it to asterisk itself... |
12:52.41 | xheliox | I have no allegiance to Digium, in fact my experiences with Digium have been sub par.. I'm just trying to better understand. :-/ |
12:52.51 | *** join/#asterisk Mealz86 (n=amiel@cust4005.vic01.dataco.com.au) |
12:53.25 | Mealz86 | HI |
12:53.41 | OSPanic | ty @xheliox & @tzafrir_laptop it works now, great job. i learned lession: rtfm :p |
12:53.44 | azzie | xheliox, so if you have so cool sip stack for *, why would you want to put it to add-ons instead of openpbx ? ;-) |
12:54.14 | Mealz86 | Is there anyone here who is familiar with running asterisk on linksys routers? |
12:54.23 | xheliox | Because Asterisk has an established base with an immense amount of community support, would be my first reason. |
12:55.09 | coppice | xheliox: it is worth noting that quite a bit of the neat stuff in * was contributed by those now developing openpbx |
12:55.21 | OSPanic | Mealz86, do mean which config for ur linksys router? |
12:56.14 | xheliox | azzie: Ideally, I'd like to see openpbx do so well that they completely consume the FOSS VoIP market.. or they scare Mark into changing his policies. :) But at the same time, the idea of seeing development slowed on both fronts due to lack of cooperation, or general pissing matches.. troubles me. |
12:56.55 | Mealz86 | I am considering buy a linksys router for running open wrt and asterisk... just wanting to compare the wrt54GS and wrt54GP2 |
12:57.25 | coppice | Mealz86: check carefully. it seems the newest ones don't run linux any more |
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12:58.01 | newl | my wag54gv2 does and it's current model. |
12:58.07 | xheliox | coppice: Some FUD around here last night was that openpbx had few developers. |
12:58.18 | newl | alas no openwrt for it yet though. |
12:58.45 | Mealz86 | I see,,, so you would advise to buy the GS not the GP2? |
12:58.53 | coppice | xheliox: * has few real developers |
12:59.13 | xheliox | Well, let's be sure to split them up then ;) |
12:59.21 | coppice | newl: wag54gv2 is not the current model |
12:59.44 | coppice | the main point to openpbx is to stop wasteful development |
13:01.31 | xheliox | I like the name better. :) |
13:01.46 | tzanger | coppice: I was reading about an interesting mutation of the goertzel transform for detecting frequencies |
13:02.00 | littleball | coppice, i think it could be a good idea of do some integration work on asterisk/openpbx with jboss application server. |
13:02.12 | xheliox | ... |
13:02.27 | tzanger | coppice: instead of sampling at a constant rate, you sampled at 4x the frequency you want to detect. this removes the cosine term and the main loop is now essentially an integer subtraction |
13:02.28 | coppice | tzanger: do you mean the sliding goertzel? |
13:02.39 | tzanger | coppice: not sure :-) |
13:02.58 | newl | coppice: it is in this country. :) |
13:02.59 | lunk | littleball: i finished up a project doing just that last week |
13:03.11 | littleball | lunk, how do you think? |
13:03.33 | coppice | tzanger: that's old, but of very limited use. it requires you have control of the sampling frequency, or do expensive rate conversions |
13:03.40 | tzanger | coppice: it will only detect one frequency at a time, so instead of stacking the detections "in parallel" you end up detecting the first frequency you want, then changing the sample rate to 4x the next one. your detection process becomes "serial" instead of "parallel" but it's a good tradeoff for limited resources |
13:03.42 | littleball | i mean from both admin/management console and user case management |
13:03.58 | tzanger | coppice: ahh see I didn't know it wasn't novel. I'd just read about it |
13:04.09 | littleball | lunk, what kind of project? |
13:04.17 | lunk | littleball: asterisk-java is out, and lets the two systems communicate |
13:04.20 | tzanger | and the guy who was writing about it in a magazine was making it out to be his own thing |
13:04.29 | lunk | littleball: asterisk-java is out, and lets the two systems communicate pretty easily |
13:04.42 | lunk | (why does everything in life revolve around lag) |
13:04.43 | littleball | lunk, yes, i also use it. |
13:04.45 | lunk | die irc |
13:04.55 | coppice | tzanger: yeah, and every teenager thinks they invented sex :-) |
13:05.20 | lunk | littleball: ah, yea, i just got the two working together so my Struts framework can place calls, pretty cool stuff |
13:05.43 | littleball | lunk, i also did similar thing but based on jboss portal 2 |
13:06.10 | tzanger | coppice: :-) |
13:06.13 | littleball | lunk, but i think lots of things can be integrated |
13:06.21 | tzanger | I just pulled down the shannon paper |
13:06.44 | lunk | yea, took me a bit to understand how to get my Session EJB to start the AGI server |
13:07.02 | lunk | but ya learn something new everyday |
13:07.03 | lunk | \o/ |
13:07.46 | littleball | lunk, AGI communicate with EJB directly? If you need to return something, it is the way. But maybe you can use JMS |
13:08.19 | coppice | tzanger: that makes it sound like its printed on a toilet roll |
13:08.26 | lunk | well it's more of letting the dial planner mark recrods as originated after the call is placed, then processed when it's done |
13:08.43 | lunk | my AGI script just takes a single parameter, and calls an EJB function |
13:08.51 | tzanger | coppice: hahaha well I do have an unusual printer |
13:09.01 | littleball | lunk, then jms will be better way |
13:09.43 | lunk | i don't see how, since asterisk lives outside of my Java environment completely |
13:13.03 | littleball | lunk, jms is asyn. EJB is syn. this is the difference |
13:13.50 | *** join/#asterisk Falle (i=falstaf@voip-forum.se) |
13:13.52 | lunk | right, and I want it n`sync, *bye bye* |
13:14.03 | lunk | wow that way gay, someone can kick me |
13:14.04 | tzanger | coppice: "binary digits, or bits, as Tukey suggests the word" -- wow this is an old paper :-) |
13:14.04 | lunk | haha |
13:14.31 | lunk | time to get some groceries |
13:14.32 | lunk | later |
13:14.40 | coppice | tzanger 1948 |
13:14.43 | tzanger | yup |
13:14.59 | coppice | tzanger: very famous date |
13:15.30 | tzanger | yeah? |
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13:15.59 | Dr-Linux | hi |
13:16.31 | Dr-Linux | i am having error while installing AMP its db error |
13:16.44 | Dr-Linux | [root@I2C-RHEL-DEV AMP]# ./install_amp |
13:16.44 | Dr-Linux | Checking for PEAR DB..FAILED |
13:16.44 | Dr-Linux | [FATAL] PEAR must be installed (requires DB.php). Include path: .:/usr/share/pear |
13:18.01 | newl | The error tells you specifically what is missing. How you go about doing the research to find and install what is missing is up to you. :) |
13:18.28 | Druken | Dr-Linux: ask in #AMP |
13:19.10 | Dr-Linux | :S |
13:20.25 | Dr-Linux | huh |
13:20.38 | Dr-Linux | Dr-Linux: #AMP is empty |
13:21.45 | jontow | prescribe yourself a manpage and google |
13:21.48 | jontow | and talk to us in the morning. |
13:21.49 | jontow | ;) |
13:22.10 | jontow | thats quite an intuitive error |
13:22.40 | Druken | ok, my bad.. #amportal |
13:22.44 | coppice | Dr-Linux: Install pear, but chew the pear thoroughly while installing it |
13:22.45 | Druken | stupid fucks... |
13:24.49 | Dr-Linux | coppice: php4 pear allready installed , i just wanna know where i can put the path |
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13:29.32 | bartpbx | hello.. has anyone here the right to reopen an issue in mantis? |
13:30.21 | riksta | is there a way to verbosely log everything i'd see on the console into a log file? |
13:30.45 | jontow | riksta; thats .. usually already done in /var/log/asterisk/messages |
13:30.58 | riksta | when i turn on pri debug ? |
13:31.15 | riksta | i want to log the debug output |
13:31.20 | jontow | take a look at /etc/asterisk/logger.conf |
13:31.32 | riksta | yeah ok, thanks |
13:31.54 | jontow | messages => notice,warning,error,debug |
13:31.55 | jontow | for instance :) |
13:32.43 | riksta | k thanks |
13:33.38 | riksta | by theway does anyone know what this means by chance... Oct 30 09:08:22 WARNING[20415]: Unexpected control subclass '8' |
13:34.32 | riksta | i have a single port sangoma a101 and sometimes i see this error message, and the call lengh logged into the cdr db is wrong, it doesnt seem to dectect the hangup right |
13:34.58 | bartpbx | @jontow: thanks for the hint. But there is no respnse on asterisk-bugs |
13:35.05 | bartpbx | can i mail someone? |
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13:35.45 | jontow | riksta; a quick grep in the asterisk source directory shows it concerning framing |
13:36.02 | *** part/#asterisk santiago (n=santiago@208.195.215.158) |
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13:36.17 | riksta | jontow: hmm really...could this be related PRI got event: HDLC Bad FCS (8) on Primary D-channel of span 1 |
13:36.43 | jontow | well, yes and no ;) i've received plenty of those and have never really gotten a good answer on what it means |
13:37.13 | jontow | however i've never hit the Unexpected control subclass |
13:37.55 | Druken | is it an unprectable error? or does it do it on every call ? |
13:38.14 | riksta | it happens only about one in 30 calls approx |
13:38.18 | jontow | weird |
13:38.21 | riksta | and it doesn't seem to have any pattern at all |
13:38.23 | coppice | riksa: T1 or E1? |
13:38.30 | riksta | e1 euroisdn |
13:38.47 | riksta | its really annoying for me cause im working with premium rate numbers, and i need the call times to be accurate |
13:38.47 | Druken | anyway to probe and see if it's on a certain channel ? |
13:39.09 | riksta | Druken: hmm, well, thats why im trying to do the debug stuff now |
13:39.12 | riksta | pri debug span 1 |
13:40.14 | *** join/#asterisk mikeb (n=MikeB@217.169.21.230) |
13:40.49 | riksta | but does anyone have anything i can try? |
13:41.11 | Druken | you keep call records right? |
13:41.17 | riksta | yeah cdr ones |
13:41.23 | jontow | weird, my snom 320's aren't catching callerid |
13:41.39 | Druken | it should have the channels in the cdr's.... |
13:41.45 | riksta | ok let me see |
13:41.52 | mikeb | Is this the "correct" place for questions re zaptel upable to open d-channel? Not sure where else to ask, Tried google and voip-info. |
13:42.07 | riksta | Druken: nope the channels are all different |
13:42.12 | jontow | mikeb; its one of the places.. the mailing lists are another |
13:42.52 | mikeb | Its problably simple but Im getting "chan_zap.c:8994 start_pri: Unable to open D-channel 24 (No such device or address)" even though I took the zapata.conf etc from a working box? |
13:43.12 | mikeb | Its should be channel 16 as its an E1. |
13:43.39 | Druken | the card is probably configured to work on a T1 |
13:43.57 | mikeb | jontow, Is kinda urgent, I can only use the line to test on on a Sunday and its half over already ;) |
13:44.30 | mikeb | I took the config I have working on another box as is |
13:44.54 | Flauto | can i install festival after i installed asterisk |
13:44.56 | jontow | heheh, i've never had any experience with an E1 |
13:45.01 | jontow | only PRI/T1 |
13:45.02 | Flauto | or i have to do it at the same time |
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13:46.52 | mikeb | Is an e100p and and tdm400p the same ? Well compltible? |
13:47.27 | mikeb | Sorry Being stupid wrong description on invoice, |
13:47.43 | *** join/#asterisk oej (n=Olle@apollo.webway.se) |
13:47.59 | jontow | i <3 sundays |
13:48.19 | bartpbx | is there a way to add a note to a bug even if it is closed? |
13:49.21 | mikeb | Sorry Being stupid wrong description on invoice, I know the "new" cards I have are different from the old ones new card is TE110P should that work the same as E100P ? |
13:50.51 | riksta | jontow, Druken thanks for the help, i'll gather some verbose logs and maybe post to the list |
13:50.56 | bartpbx | does anyone know how I can get in touch with markster? |
13:51.11 | bartpbx | what time is it in the US? |
13:51.34 | lunk | jontow: ring back style? |
13:52.16 | oej | Markster is named "kram" on IRC, bartpbx. Anything we can help with? |
13:52.26 | bartpbx | yes |
13:52.44 | bartpbx | I need some details on Mantis 4832 |
13:52.59 | jontow | the US has a couple timezones, bart, and in EST (EDT?) it is currently 8:53am |
13:53.20 | jontow | in Huntsville, Alabama, where Digium is, i believe it to be 7:53am |
13:53.28 | bartpbx | ok |
13:53.38 | jontow | its sunday, they're not usually at work on sundays.. |
13:53.39 | jontow | ;) |
13:53.50 | bartpbx | hm |
13:53.51 | oej | bartpbx: What's up with 4832? A version of it is committed |
13:53.55 | xheliox | I think they kill people for working on Sunday's in Alabama. |
13:54.33 | coppice | by burning I believe |
13:55.04 | xheliox | I thought it was by belting them to death.. hence the name, the 'Bible Belt' ;) |
13:55.06 | xheliox | no? |
13:55.13 | *** join/#asterisk napkin (n=tan@Toronto-HSE-ppp3787812.sympatico.ca) |
13:55.32 | coppice | I know they get really cross with you |
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13:55.56 | aatcman | Hi all |
13:56.01 | jontow | coppice: nice pun :D |
13:56.02 | jontow | heheh |
13:56.09 | napkin | does anyone use babytel or some other PSTN service in Canada? |
13:56.09 | aatcman | d:o) |
13:56.29 | aatcman | Anyone got time to chat about a cisco 7960 problem? |
13:56.47 | aatcman | d:o) |
13:56.58 | Dr_Ray | would this be a cisco 7960 not updating for the end of DST? |
13:57.25 | coppice | People should be more tolerant about faith. There should be less of the "get thee behind me satan" and more of the "come in my old mate. Have a cup of tea". :-) |
13:57.39 | aatcman | no, this would be a Cisco 7960 that seems to be brainless -- ie, wont connect to asterisk, wont http, wont telnet |
13:57.45 | many | coppice: come in and enjoy the tea. |
13:57.49 | jontow | aatcman; check your tftp logs.. ;) |
13:57.51 | Dr_Ray | will it connect to a tftp server? |
13:57.54 | jontow | bet it failed to load firmware |
13:58.19 | aatcman | well, when I got it, it was OOOOOOOLD skiny, I now have OLDDDDD SIP |
13:58.27 | coppice | mikeb: who sets the jumpers? what's wrong with parameters in modprobe.conf? :-) |
13:58.29 | aatcman | No dashes in versio number |
13:58.35 | many | does it display something in the lcd? |
13:58.40 | aatcman | yup |
13:58.44 | Dr_Ray | manually set the tftp server |
13:58.48 | many | thats a good sign. |
13:58.49 | Dr_Ray | sounds like you need the UAL |
13:58.49 | aatcman | it even gives dial tone |
13:58.55 | aatcman | ? |
13:59.17 | Dr_Ray | universal application loader will get you to sip 7.5 |
13:59.28 | aatcman | from version 2? |
13:59.35 | mikeb | coppice, Nothing wrong, there is a wardware jumper on the card I needed it set for E1 not T1 are you suggesting its possible to set it in modprobe.conf? |
13:59.51 | aatcman | can anyone give me a copy of that? |
14:00.02 | Dr_Ray | cisco can |
14:00.08 | aatcman | anyoen else? |
14:00.09 | Dr_Ray | for $88 a year |
14:00.11 | mikeb | coppice, Im afraid that I just "bunged" the cards in without bothering to check as the last PRI card I bought was a E100P and did not need to be changed. |
14:00.21 | Druken | mikeb: so what was the problem ? |
14:00.39 | aatcman | i dont wanna pay $88 /year for a phone they already got paid to much for |
14:00.43 | many | aatcman: this is not #warez, eh? :) |
14:01.01 | aatcman | i know, I was just hoping |
14:01.14 | Dr_Ray | I think the cisco was well worth the $450 or so we paid to get it working |
14:01.15 | jontow | my maintenance contract ran out when i hit SIP 7.3 |
14:01.15 | jontow | :P |
14:01.22 | jontow | so now i deal with a buggy but somewhat usable firmware :P |
14:01.34 | aatcman | any idea why I cant even telnet to it? |
14:01.41 | Druken | many: it's not? |
14:01.43 | mikeb | Druken, Sorry about this, None Now, I took the machine apart and found the link, sorry to waste everyones time, had spend ages and was just commenting on the fact that when you run out of ideas, even just a one line post ot irc can produce inspiration and fix the problem without a responce. |
14:01.44 | Dr_Ray | I know there are ebay thieves selling the firmware |
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14:02.15 | many | druken: when i joined, it said its #asterisk. so shall we diff(1) '#warez' with '#asterisk'? |
14:02.29 | Druken | many: perhaps.. |
14:02.50 | many | iam pretty sure itll return false |
14:03.02 | Dr_Ray | but the pompous flag will return set |
14:03.05 | Druken | mikeb: so it was set to use a T1 instead of an E1 then ? |
14:03.05 | aatcman | according to what I have read, I am supposed to be able to telnet even to the version I currently have |
14:03.25 | mikeb | Yep (feel stupid) Works fine now :) |
14:03.33 | Druken | :) |
14:03.34 | aatcman | but I cant |
14:03.39 | Dr_Ray | paying the support fee gets you access to the cisco brain trust |
14:03.46 | Dr_Ray | as well as the firmware |
14:03.47 | Druken | and to think i have no experince with any of the expensive hardware... |
14:04.25 | aatcman | maybe I'll just junk it and get some more pap2's |
14:04.30 | aatcman | they work great and their cheap |
14:04.33 | mikeb | Just need to setup and IAX link to the normal switch and see if anyone notices in the morning. |
14:05.15 | Dr_Ray | aatcman, I'll admit to having one service contract for multiple phones ;) |
14:05.30 | aatcman | If I had 100+ phones, and the fee was a blanket charge (not a per phone charge) then I would pay the $450 But for one phone, thats ridiculous |
14:05.54 | Dr_Ray | I'll buy your cisco if you go with the pap2 |
14:06.02 | many | then cisco was the wrong choice to buy |
14:06.29 | aatcman | cool, if I decide to go that way, I'll come back here and let yall know. |
14:06.49 | aatcman | I was expecting the cisco to be plug an play like the pap2 was. |
14:06.56 | Dr_Ray | of course I'll lowball you since yours is clearly broken |
14:06.57 | Dr_Ray | er |
14:07.42 | aatcman | thanks, yall |
14:07.47 | Dr_Ray | but the ciscos are not plug and play |
14:07.47 | aatcman | d:o) |
14:07.55 | Dr_Ray | they require some infrastructure |
14:07.56 | jontow | not..at..all |
14:08.11 | aatcman | i've noticed -- i think its extortion |
14:08.29 | Dr_Ray | I think it's you get what you pay for |
14:08.38 | Dr_Ray | but a free market, appeals to different folks |
14:08.42 | Druken | i'd like a cisco... but haven't the money or patience for one... |
14:09.03 | aatcman | no way -- if that was the case, the CISCO would work great and the PAP2 would work worth a crap |
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14:09.08 | Dr_Ray | I can tell you this, I won't bother changing my cisco setup to fix the clock |
14:09.28 | aatcman | fix the clock? |
14:09.32 | Dr_Ray | the cisco does work great |
14:09.33 | Druken | well... technically they are both made by the same company... |
14:09.56 | aatcman | true -- but I think linksys is a self supporting division |
14:10.10 | Dr_Ray | except for the Wet11 |
14:10.18 | aatcman | true enough |
14:10.21 | Dr_Ray | cisco made them break that from version 1, and version 2 |
14:10.26 | aatcman | except mine works GREAT |
14:10.30 | aatcman | long distance too |
14:10.39 | Dr_Ray | we deployed wet11's v1 |
14:10.51 | aatcman | i think mines v2 |
14:10.53 | Dr_Ray | which are still rock solid and in place today,... then we got v2 |
14:11.03 | Dr_Ray | aatcman - does it have a cisco label on it? |
14:11.09 | aatcman | no wait, just checked, v1 |
14:11.16 | Dr_Ray | v1's are studly |
14:11.34 | Druken | exactly what is the wet11 ? |
14:11.46 | Dr_Ray | I called linksys to whine about the 40 v1's we have, that we want more.. and linksys solution was to buy a cisco product |
14:11.52 | aatcman | 2.06 |
14:11.52 | Dr_Ray | 802.11b wireless bridge |
14:12.07 | Dr_Ray | v1 could run in peer mode |
14:12.11 | Dr_Ray | er, adhoc |
14:12.21 | aatcman | i run mine infrastructure anyway |
14:12.39 | Dr_Ray | we run ours in adhoc, as defacto accesspoints |
14:12.47 | Dr_Ray | studly |
14:12.56 | Dr_Ray | v2 wont let you do that |
14:13.19 | aatcman | Im using it as an etension between buildings -- about 1000 yds w/stock antenna on wap and wet |
14:13.23 | Dr_Ray | v1 have a pcmcia card that you can use to sniff packets |
14:13.37 | aatcman | neato |
14:13.42 | Dr_Ray | v1 is a studly box |
14:13.47 | Dr_Ray | v2 is garbage |
14:14.08 | aatcman | some are selling v1s on ebay |
14:14.20 | Dr_Ray | yeah, work wont buy used uqipment |
14:14.28 | Dr_Ray | cept for the channel banks |
14:14.36 | aatcman | too bad -- no more new v1s |
14:14.36 | Dr_Ray | we are now a dlink bridge ship |
14:14.37 | Druken | anyone have a reccomendation for long distance wireless networking? |
14:14.38 | Dr_Ray | er, shop |
14:14.48 | Dr_Ray | Druken - how far? |
14:15.01 | Druken | uhmm.... perhaps 12-20 km |
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14:15.20 | Dr_Ray | get a pair of wet11's and a primestar dish |
14:15.28 | JimmyBonus | uhmm, I need asterisk to detect rings in a different fashion |
14:15.29 | Dr_Ray | er, two primestar dishes |
14:15.49 | aatcman | as in 18" sat tv dishes? |
14:15.55 | Dr_Ray | yeah |
14:15.58 | JimmyBonus | I have connected the asterisk box to a panasonic PBX which sends out a bit modified ring signals |
14:16.21 | aatcman | what a greap elcheapo way to get an antenna |
14:16.21 | JimmyBonus | where do I set the ring detection signals in asterisk, and how do I find out what they are in the first place ? |
14:16.26 | Druken | Dr_Ray: that my only hope? |
14:16.38 | Dr_Ray | Druken - no, but that's the only one I've tried |
14:16.38 | aatcman | I menat great |
14:16.43 | aatcman | big fingers |
14:16.52 | aatcman | small keyboard |
14:16.53 | Dr_Ray | Druken - I'm sure you could roll another solution |
14:17.24 | Dr_Ray | Druken - I've not done 12k |
14:17.57 | Dr_Ray | we did roof of our apartment, across to alki beach |
14:18.02 | aatcman | thanks for alls help :o) |
14:18.02 | Druken | how far have you fone? |
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14:18.05 | Druken | er.. done |
14:18.09 | Dr_Ray | I'm guessing 4 miles |
14:18.19 | Dr_Ray | this was only a test |
14:18.28 | Dr_Ray | farting around with it |
14:18.35 | Dr_Ray | not a real world use |
14:18.58 | Dr_Ray | but we got 1mb |
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14:19.25 | Dr_Ray | Druken - they sell line of site wireless stuff |
14:20.05 | Dr_Ray | what's great about the wet11 v1, is you can put a better radio in it if you want (more power) and it comes with an antena mount |
14:22.07 | Druken | Dr_Ray: yeah... i'm just lookin for a small wireless link between like 3 sites... |
14:22.38 | Druken | one of across the city, the other is mostly farm land between |
14:22.38 | Dr_Ray | if you don't mind going used, I'd play with the wet11 |
14:22.57 | Dr_Ray | we tripod mounted the two dishes |
14:23.03 | Druken | i've never minded used |
14:23.22 | Dr_Ray | and you can pull the card out and use it in a laptop to crack wep keys |
14:23.25 | Dr_Ray | ;) |
14:23.56 | Dr_Ray | wet11 is an eth0 interface too, so it will plug in to any device you have with an ethernet port |
14:24.23 | Druken | although... wouldn't a link like that give everyone inbetween access to the 802.11?? hehe |
14:24.51 | Dr_Ray | well, they'd have to be aimed at your gateway dish |
14:24.57 | Dr_Ray | and it's a narrow beam |
14:25.18 | Druken | oh, so i'd need line of sight |
14:25.22 | Dr_Ray | I dunno how three dishes in a triangle would work |
14:25.24 | Dr_Ray | yes |
14:25.36 | Druken | hmm.... that could be a problem... |
14:25.44 | Dr_Ray | there are some dorks that are pushing the distance records |
14:25.48 | Dr_Ray | for 802.11 |
14:25.58 | Dr_Ray | you could look and see what they are using |
14:26.08 | Dr_Ray | dork is not the right word |
14:27.36 | Druken | what should they go for ya think? |
14:27.38 | Druken | 50 bux? |
14:28.12 | Dr_Ray | the new ones are 90 ish |
14:28.15 | Dr_Ray | so 70 or so |
14:28.22 | Dr_Ray | just get the v1 |
14:28.29 | Dr_Ray | it won't have a cisco label on it |
14:29.39 | Dr_Ray | http://cgi.ebay.com/2-Linksys-Ethernet-to-Wireless-Bridge-Adapter-WET11_W0QQitemZ5822928219QQcategoryZ61817QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
14:30.05 | Dr_Ray | those are 2 of what you want |
14:30.08 | Dr_Ray | http://cgi.ebay.com/Linksys-WET11-802-11b-Wireless-Bridge_W0QQitemZ5824431039QQcategoryZ61817QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
14:30.15 | Dr_Ray | this is what the one you DON"T want looks like |
14:30.54 | Dr_Ray | there is even a switch on it for crossover, and it will work with POE if you hack it |
14:31.54 | Dr_Ray | what you could do is mount the unit in a weatherproof case, on a pole with the antena/dish and then run an ethernet cable with POE out to it |
14:32.46 | Druken | wouldn't be able to get los here... hehehe |
14:33.02 | Dr_Ray | los? |
14:33.03 | Druken | got like 100 foot trees everywhere... :( |
14:33.06 | Dr_Ray | oh |
14:33.07 | Druken | line of sight |
14:33.16 | Dr_Ray | move the dish up to a tree |
14:33.18 | Dr_Ray | :) |
14:33.29 | Druken | :) |
14:33.33 | Dr_Ray | you have 300 feet of ethernet cable to play with |
14:33.47 | Druken | invest in 200 feet of tv tower eh? just run it up threw the tree :) |
14:34.03 | Dr_Ray | well, or find a nearby ham tower |
14:34.34 | Druken | only ham around here, uses 10 meg... so he doesn't need height |
14:34.55 | Dr_Ray | we did it because we were bored, and we had all the hardware |
14:35.13 | Dr_Ray | I had the wet11's someone else ahd the dishes, and a third guy had the tripod |
14:35.23 | Druken | :) |
14:35.25 | Dr_Ray | so it cost us nothing but the pizza/beer |
14:35.29 | Druken | one of those... i wonder..... |
14:35.33 | jontow | mm, pizza & beer |
14:35.44 | jontow | dr_ray; what kind of distance did you get, line of sight? |
14:35.53 | Dr_Ray | I'm guessing 4 miles |
14:35.57 | Dr_Ray | line of site |
14:35.59 | jontow | wow, thats not bad.. |
14:36.00 | Dr_Ray | er, sight |
14:36.14 | Dr_Ray | it was from the roof of our building to alki beach across the water |
14:36.27 | Dr_Ray | downtown seattle |
14:36.34 | Dr_Ray | to the park |
14:36.51 | Dr_Ray | it was more a proof of concept |
14:37.19 | Dr_Ray | it may not have been 4 miles either |
14:37.27 | jontow | any real issues lining it up? |
14:37.43 | Dr_Ray | well, I knew where the building was |
14:37.48 | Dr_Ray | so not really. |
14:38.00 | jontow | damn cool |
14:38.20 | Dr_Ray | there are guys getting 100km with it |
14:38.24 | jontow | :o |
14:38.24 | Neter66 | does anyone have any experience with a Mediatrix 2102 and * ? Mine won't stay registered. After REGISTER, i get a NOTIFY from * and then the Mediatrix drops the registered session, and re-sends the REGISTER request. any thoughts? |
14:38.45 | jontow | well, i think i can steal 2 dishes from my old house.. |
14:38.50 | jontow | (which i still own) |
14:38.56 | jontow | they've been on the property now for years |
14:39.05 | jontow | directv type |
14:39.12 | jontow | which are roughly equivalent to the primestar ones |
14:39.48 | Dr_Ray | these were primestar, but I think the directv would work |
14:39.55 | jontow | did you have to modify them at all? |
14:39.58 | Dr_Ray | I believe two pringles cans would work |
14:40.07 | jontow | or just make a cable? |
14:40.16 | Dr_Ray | you take the lnb out, and point the antenna to the dish |
14:40.38 | Dr_Ray | the guy who had the dishes knew about that and fabricated the antennas |
14:41.00 | jontow | damn nice |
14:41.02 | jontow | :D |
14:41.14 | jontow | i like wireless, and would really like to make use of it around here |
14:41.20 | jontow | but everything is so rural and spread out that its hard to do |
14:41.30 | jontow | its all distance |
14:41.37 | jontow | and we live in foothills, too, so not flatlanding either :D |
14:41.46 | Dr_Ray | seattlewireless.net |
14:43.11 | Druken | i'd like to have a nice wireless network that i can drop a 802.11 card in my laptop and use :) |
14:43.25 | Dr_Ray | zzzz |
14:43.26 | Dr_Ray | er |
14:44.22 | Dr_Ray | http://www.seattlewireless.net/index.cgi/LinksysWET11 |
14:44.26 | Druken | it's a shame we can't give all the taxi drivers devices to put in their cars, and use a trunking system for it :) |
14:44.46 | jontow | roaming AP style? :D |
14:45.13 | Dr_Ray | it's a shame instead of auctioning off this tv spectrum to the highest bidder that they can't move wifi to that slice |
14:46.39 | Druken | jontow: yeah :) |
14:46.48 | Druken | like what the cops use |
14:47.53 | Druken | better yet, just tap into the cops network... |
14:48.37 | Dr_Ray | we have three properties within 5 miles of each other, I've toyed with making a WAN for us |
14:48.48 | Dr_Ray | put them in a triangle |
14:57.39 | Druken | :) |
14:58.28 | Druken | i've toyed with the idea of a massive wireless network that covers all of ontario... but i can't do that kinda stuff... :( |
14:58.33 | Druken | being poor and all |
15:00.32 | file | er his |
15:00.41 | Dr_Ray | well, I've been lucky, If I am not greedy, work will pay for a lot of my toys |
15:01.33 | Dr_Ray | personally, I loathe wireless |
15:01.58 | file | I hate turning clocks back |
15:02.04 | Dr_Ray | wireless is great for last mile applications, but it should never be the only medium |
15:02.24 | Dr_Ray | I want fiber |
15:02.39 | file | fiber... glass! |
15:03.17 | Dr_Ray | more correctly, I want fiber with faster than 10mb |
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15:07.59 | Druken | well shit, i want fiber too... but it's soo damn expensive |
15:08.57 | Druken | anyone know what the status of wi-max is? |
15:09.06 | file | 42. |
15:09.40 | Dr_Ray | wimax is vaporware until I can orderi t |
15:09.55 | Dr_Ray | and I don't think wimax has enough spectrum to supply bandwidth |
15:09.58 | Dr_Ray | but I could be wrong |
15:10.27 | Dr_Ray | fiber is cheaper than copper at distance |
15:10.55 | Trionnis | any UK people around? |
15:11.39 | Druken | Dr_Ray: gotta admit tho... wi-max would be nice... especially if they made a wi-max voip phone... |
15:12.02 | Druken | throw out the cellphone and give yourself service |
15:12.05 | Dr_Ray | I agree, but it seems pie in the sky |
15:12.14 | Druken | yeah |
15:12.18 | Dr_Ray | plus the entry fees to wimax will be expensive |
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15:12.29 | Dr_Ray | EVDO is already a reality |
15:12.35 | Druken | oh i know it won't be cheap for some 5-10 years... |
15:12.39 | Dr-Linux | anybody related to AMP ? |
15:12.44 | Dr_Ray | I don't think it ever be cheap |
15:12.50 | Dr_Ray | if it ever gets deployed |
15:12.57 | Trionnis | EVDO's latency sucks |
15:13.06 | Dr-Linux | Dr_Ray: can you please ? |
15:13.06 | Dr_Ray | I want the tv sprectrum split up for wifi |
15:13.09 | Trionnis | ~100-150ms to the tower |
15:13.12 | Trionnis | bleh |
15:13.40 | Dr_Ray | Dr_linux - sorry, I don't AMP |
15:13.40 | Dr-Linux | [root@I2C-RHEL-DEV AMP]# locate DB.php |
15:13.48 | Dr-Linux | [root@I2C-RHEL-DEV AMP]# locate DB.php |
15:13.48 | Dr-Linux | /usr/local/lib/php/PEAR/DependencyDB.php |
15:13.48 | Dr-Linux | /usr/local/lib/php/DB.php |
15:13.55 | Dr-Linux | still there but |
15:14.11 | Dr-Linux | [root@I2C-RHEL-DEV AMP]# ./install_amp |
15:14.11 | Dr-Linux | Checking for PEAR DB..FAILED |
15:14.11 | Dr-Linux | [FATAL] PEAR must be installed (requires DB.php). Include path: .:/usr/share/pear |
15:14.19 | Dr_Ray | ~pastebin |
15:14.20 | jbot | pastebin is, like, a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca/ |
15:14.21 | Dr-Linux | this is my error :S |
15:14.45 | Druken | it tells ya, it can't find pear... did we not tell you to install it before? |
15:14.49 | Dr-Linux | these are not more then 4 lines :S |
15:15.09 | Druken | i count 7.... |
15:15.11 | Dr-Linux | Druken: i installed it as well |
15:15.17 | Dr_Ray | I count 78, but that's fine |
15:15.19 | Dr_Ray | er, 8 |
15:15.45 | Dr-Linux | Druken: i have install pear |
15:17.47 | file | what madness is going on today? |
15:17.54 | tzanger | Dr-Linux: :-) |
15:17.57 | tzanger | er Dr_Ray rather |
15:18.32 | file | tomorrow is Monday. |
15:19.07 | Trionnis | thanks Captain Obvious! |
15:19.14 | Trionnis | quick! to the batcave! |
15:19.18 | Trionnis | *zoom* |
15:19.21 | Trionnis | ;) |
15:19.22 | Dr_Ray | sshhh.. you'll spoil his secret indety |
15:19.26 | Dr_Ray | identity |
15:19.33 | file | I'm a great Captain Obvious pfft |
15:21.22 | exoxe | shoe shine shine |
15:21.51 | Dr_Ray | douglas addams was a brilliant man |
15:21.58 | file | Dr_Ray: I agree |
15:22.16 | Dr_Ray | I did not get how subversive he was when I read the books the first time |
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15:25.28 | Dr-Linux | :S |
15:25.41 | Dr-Linux | tzanger :) :) :) |
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15:42.51 | ms345 | Any idea what could prevent my callerID from being set on my PRI? I see Executing SetCallerID("Zap/91-1", ""ABC" 4044527828" bit it still shows up as the first DID 4044527500. I was able to set it for each DID with my NEC switch on this same PRI. I've tried passing 10, 7 and 4 numbers but no luck. |
15:44.32 | nassy | how long should it take to get DID numbers from a VoIP provider. im waiting over a week for 2 from telasip. my brother has vonage and he got his right away. is over a week normal? |
15:46.22 | exoxe | i got mine right away with teliax |
15:48.53 | nassy | if i dont get it by monday afternoon im going to cancel my order. |
15:48.59 | nassy | maybe i should cancel now |
15:49.15 | Trionnis | have you emailed or called them? |
15:49.20 | Dr_Ray | well, if they are slow to deploy, they will be slow to cancel |
15:49.42 | Dr_Ray | but as competive as DID's are, I can't see waiting a week for one |
15:49.46 | nassy | ive emailed them once per day. and got replies to the effect any day now |
15:49.52 | Trionnis | hmm |
15:50.04 | Trionnis | I'd dump 'em, but that's just me |
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15:50.59 | nassy | yeah, i just did |
15:51.24 | nassy | off to search for a provider that supports asterisk |
15:51.37 | Trionnis | what are you looking for? |
15:51.41 | Trionnis | what services |
15:52.02 | nassy | unlimited local and long distance, can use asterisk, and at least 2 DID's |
15:52.10 | Trionnis | hmm |
15:52.19 | Trionnis | good luck with the unlimited |
15:52.27 | Trionnis | very few allow it |
15:52.29 | nassy | withint he USA |
15:52.36 | Trionnis | avoid broadvoice like the plague |
15:52.46 | nassy | yeah i read about their billing |
15:52.47 | Qwell[] | no such thing as "unlimited" |
15:52.54 | Trionnis | oh gods, not this again |
15:53.01 | Trionnis | yes Qwell[], you're right |
15:53.01 | nassy | i hope i dont have to use vonage |
15:53.03 | Trionnis | ;) |
15:53.27 | nassy | no unlimited even with vonage? |
15:53.37 | Trionnis | he's being pedantic |
15:53.40 | Qwell[] | all "unlimited" providers have a hard cap |
15:53.43 | d-tech | anyone using chan_sccp? |
15:54.25 | nassy | i guess to avoid abuse (by businesses)? |
15:55.10 | Trionnis | they all operate on a similar concept as overselling webhosting space |
15:55.17 | Trionnis | most people won't use enough to cause a loss |
15:55.22 | Trionnis | those that do get booted |
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16:00.42 | bartpbx | hello |
16:01.07 | bartpbx | can anyone help me with a dns resolution problem within the current asterisk head? |
16:02.27 | bartpbx | I have two servers both running todays head version of asterisk. In both servers i doo a DIAL(SIP/1231234@sip.host.de). One server processes the call. The secon says: WARNING[22566]: chan_sip.c:1947 create_addr: No such host:sip.host.de |
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16:03.22 | Trionnis | have you tried a regular "host" lookup from the CLI ? |
16:03.36 | Trionnis | not * CLI, but OS |
16:03.42 | bartpbx | sure. .i can ping it on both servers |
16:03.47 | Trionnis | k |
16:03.53 | bartpbx | sorry. i forgot to mention this |
16:04.45 | Trionnis | you've checked for typos, yes? |
16:04.49 | Trionnis | :) |
16:05.21 | bartpbx | yes |
16:05.25 | bartpbx | twice |
16:05.30 | Trionnis | recompiled? |
16:05.36 | bartpbx | no |
16:05.43 | bartpbx | for what |
16:05.55 | Trionnis | couldn't hurt to try it |
16:06.17 | Trionnis | brb |
16:06.26 | bartpbx | I'll try it |
16:10.05 | TommyTheKid | is there a way to make the console actually timestamp *all* messages? when I run it with -vvvT, it does timestamp the first like 4 lines, and various log lines (warning about no vmail box).. but all the incoming calls and stuff still just start with -- or == |
16:11.19 | jontow | TommyTheKid: i like that idea. |
16:11.20 | tzanger | TommyTheKid: I do not know a way |
16:11.29 | tzanger | you'd have to see if it timestamps the logfile instead |
16:11.53 | TommyTheKid | the "log" messages are timestamped.. its all the "verbose" messages that arent I think |
16:12.43 | bartpbx | noone else has an idear of this dns issue? |
16:12.59 | bartpbx | I only have this problem with SIP |
16:13.50 | TommyTheKid | bartpbx: looking back brb |
16:14.25 | TommyTheKid | bartpbx check nsswitch.conf |
16:14.47 | TommyTheKid | hosts: files dns |
16:14.50 | bartpbx | I'll do |
16:15.35 | Qwell[] | TommyTheKid: he can resolve the hosts outside of asterisk |
16:15.36 | TommyTheKid | oh.. you said you can ping it (by name I assume) on both servers.. so that uses the hosts name resolution... |
16:16.05 | TommyTheKid | I guess I would have to go with a typo in the hostname (comma instead of dot maybe)? |
16:16.23 | TommyTheKid | if I were to guess that is |
16:16.41 | bartpbx | I've copied both extensions.conf files accross |
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16:17.38 | Qwell[] | I don't know if this is still a problem in cvs head, but I recall hearing that if * fails to resolve a host, it won't be able to resolve it later either, unless it's restarted. |
16:17.52 | Qwell[] | a small DNS hiccup could cause that |
16:17.56 | bartpbx | I GOT IT |
16:18.13 | bartpbx | thanks for all the help |
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16:18.22 | Qwell[] | What was the problem? |
16:18.27 | xheliox | anyone know what happened to monitor mux in cvs? :) |
16:18.39 | ManxPower | xheliox, Yes. |
16:18.47 | xheliox | What? :) |
16:19.00 | ManxPower | xheliox, see the asterisk-cvs mailing list |
16:19.15 | xheliox | Or you could just tell me. :) |
16:19.19 | bartpbx | The problem was the search entry in the /etc/resolv.conf |
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16:19.40 | ManxPower | Why? If you are too lazy to be on the CVS mailing list then I'm too lazy to tell you. |
16:19.41 | Qwell[] | bartpbx: odd that you could still resolve it then... |
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16:20.06 | bartpbx | yes, that was strange |
16:20.39 | bartpbx | But I can reproduce it |
16:20.57 | xheliox | I'm not too lazy, ass. It's extraordinarily easier for you to give me a one sentence summary as to what happened rather than having to search a mailing list which I'm then going to have to dig through a thread, presumably. |
16:21.19 | Druken | ManxPower: it's not that i'm too lazy to be on the mailinglist... it's that i'm too lazy to delette the god damn emails that flow in 24/7 |
16:21.26 | xheliox | Or did I misunderstand what a chat medium is used for? |
16:21.43 | ManxPower | Druken, Um, the asterisk-cvs mailing list is not that high traffic |
16:21.51 | ManxPower | xheliox, NO! |
16:22.11 | Druken | xheliox: ManxPower is on his power trip for today :) |
16:22.15 | xheliox | Good god, calm down. |
16:22.16 | ManxPower | The asterisk-cvs mailing list is ONLY the log information about changes to CVS-HEAD. They include the file changed, the comment, and the patch. |
16:22.42 | ManxPower | There is NO discussion or posts other than from the CVS server allowed on the asterisk-cvs mailing list. |
16:23.13 | ManxPower | The asterisk-cvs mailing list is basically an archive of every change made to CVs-HEAD, complete with developer comment and the patch. |
16:23.46 | TommyTheKid | sounds like a good place for gmail :) |
16:23.51 | xheliox | And instead of giving me a simple answer, you felt the need to go off on a tangent. Good use of your time. |
16:24.00 | xheliox | Thanks again. :) |
16:24.10 | Qwell[] | tangents are a great use of time... |
16:24.11 | ManxPower | xheliox, I'm trying to teach you to fish. |
16:24.25 | Qwell[] | in fact, I think I may go off on a tangent about tangents, if nobody minds |
16:24.28 | Druken | fishing is boring.. and pointless |
16:24.31 | Druken | :) |
16:24.48 | TommyTheKid | yea fish are yucky.. I WANT STEAK :) |
16:25.00 | xheliox | You're not talking to a newbie. I knew how and where to access the information. People are here, and god forbid I could someone helpful would actually be online to provide me with a simple answer, or hell, god forbid it provoke.. you know, a discussion on a boring Sunday morning. |
16:25.06 | Druken | go shoot a cow.. :) |
16:25.24 | ManxPower | xheliox, I would have to dig thru my e-mail to know what mixmon what renamed to. |
16:25.40 | ManxPower | I just know it was renamed, since I don't use it, I didn't bother to save the info. |
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16:26.37 | chendy | hi |
16:26.50 | xheliox | I wasn't so much wondering what it was renamed to, but the fact it doesn't work at all anymore. But forget it, I'll be sure not to ever be socialable or contribute to IRC in your presence again, forgive me master. |
16:27.17 | ManxPower | Removed Files: |
16:27.18 | ManxPower | app_muxmon.c |
16:27.18 | ManxPower | Log Message: |
16:27.18 | ManxPower | complete the rename of MuxMon to MixMonitor |
16:28.00 | ManxPower | Date: 10/28/2005 7:11 PM |
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16:28.24 | morale | can someone look at my dialplan and let me know why it is not matching any context.. my inbound phone number is 4036681593 which asterisk sees it as.. http://deadbolt.ca/dialplan.txt - it should be playing the demo when it recieves a call after 1 ring but just keeps ringing and ringin. |
16:28.53 | xheliox | ManxPower: So one should use MixMonitor rather than Monitor witht the m option? |
16:29.03 | tzanger | morale: what interface |
16:29.09 | Druken | morale: still don't have it fixed ? |
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16:29.33 | ManxPower | xheliox, one might assume that "show application mixmonitor" would give you useful information. |
16:29.54 | xheliox | ManxPower: I just read that, but if I do show application monitor, it gives conflicting info. |
16:30.15 | xheliox | Or rather, claims to do a similar function, which I can tell you no longer works. |
16:30.20 | ManxPower | xheliox, then you should file a bug report. |
16:30.21 | xheliox | And has not since 10/28. |
16:30.27 | morale | tzanger: what interface? i am using the demo and i don't have a sip/iax or softphone connected to anything right now.. i just want to make sure the demo loads and then go from there.. i had everything working until i installed amp and saw that it deleted all of my configurations. |
16:30.33 | xheliox | Am I able to do so without any sort of waiver? |
16:30.49 | ManxPower | xheliox, you only need a disclaimer if you submit code. |
16:31.02 | xheliox | Fair enough, then I will. |
16:31.05 | tzanger | morale: well where is this call coming in from |
16:31.07 | Qwell[] | morale: it may be matching on the _1NXXNXXXXXX,1, |
16:31.59 | Qwell[] | morale: and why do you have two priority 1's for the tight number match? |
16:32.00 | morale | tzanger, it is coming in from the [FreeWorldTel] context in my iax.conf which its default incoming context points to [default].. and default includes demo :) |
16:32.01 | TommyTheKid | someone should put "dont install AMP" in the title :) |
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16:32.14 | mog_home | <PROTECTED> |
16:32.20 | morale | Qwell[]: just trying to make sure it matches that one specific number.. |
16:32.31 | tzanger | morale: don't do that |
16:32.34 | tzanger | first things first |
16:32.36 | Qwell[] | morale: What does it say when verbose is up? |
16:32.43 | tzanger | [FreeWorldTel] |
16:32.52 | tzanger | exten => _.,1,NoOp(exten is ${EXTEN}) |
16:33.05 | tzanger | exten => _.,2,Goto(default,s,1,) |
16:33.09 | tzanger | that's it |
16:33.17 | tzanger | reload call the # and see what the exten is that you're getting |
16:33.48 | pauldy | why not dont install amp |
16:34.00 | pauldy | err esl today |
16:34.07 | pauldy | why not install AMP |
16:34.57 | TommyTheKid | I dunno.. all I see is problems with it.. I wouldn't touch it with a 10' pole |
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16:35.25 | mog_home | my feeling on amp is this |
16:35.28 | mog_home | its a good idea |
16:35.37 | mog_home | much like phpmyadmin is a good idea |
16:35.47 | Qwell[] | both are executed very poorly, heh |
16:35.58 | mog_home | but phpmyadmin took several years to be cleaner to use then just doing it by hand |
16:36.06 | mog_home | you dont like phpmyadmin qwell? |
16:36.07 | TommyTheKid | I have never had phpmyadmin delete all my config :) |
16:36.12 | Qwell[] | mog_home: not at all |
16:36.20 | mog_home | I like that it will show you the mysql statements |
16:36.29 | TommyTheKid | but its usually faster to just do it on the cli |
16:36.32 | Qwell[] | So will mysqlcc |
16:36.33 | mog_home | so you could go do it yourself |
16:36.49 | Qwell[] | but mysqlcc won't fuck up my queries, or run them twice... |
16:37.12 | Qwell[] | imo, phpmyadmin is a complete POS |
16:37.12 | mog_home | lol i have had that happened to me qwell |
16:37.19 | Qwell[] | I rest my case then. |
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16:37.33 | mog_home | heh |
16:37.46 | mog_home | well then it still has a ways to go |
16:37.52 | mog_home | but it looks much more polished |
16:37.55 | Qwell[] | I'm actually quite pissed that they killed mysqlcc |
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16:38.08 | pauldy | weird never had any of that happen to me |
16:38.10 | Qwell[] | I saw no reason for it at all... |
16:38.28 | Qwell[] | stuck with ...ugh, query browser |
16:38.54 | pauldy | I have had AMP go wwierd on me but thats becuase the developers did some stoopid stuff with variables making it anti PHP5 |
16:39.12 | pauldy | a quick rewrite of 3 functions and a few variable changes and it is all good now |
16:39.18 | mog_home | it is more than just that pauldy |
16:39.23 | mog_home | if they do it all in realtime |
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16:39.31 | mog_home | and realtime improves a little more |
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16:39.36 | mog_home | it will be more reasonable |
16:40.07 | Qwell[] | I don't like how it just thinks it totally owns the configs |
16:40.14 | pauldy | yea but for now managing extensions call groups trunks dids and outbound routing is made much simpler with amp |
16:40.25 | mog_home | bah |
16:40.34 | mog_home | its so much easier to do with config files |
16:40.37 | Qwell[] | all of those things can be done with like...5 lines :p |
16:40.40 | mog_home | they are really really simple |
16:40.53 | mog_home | but if you never read them they will seem greek to you |
16:41.21 | pauldy | true |
16:41.42 | pauldy | you can argue its faster cli but we both know it isn't |
16:41.54 | mog_home | lol |
16:41.56 | mog_home | no |
16:42.00 | Qwell[] | If you know what you're doing... |
16:42.10 | mog_home | we should have a race |
16:42.13 | mog_home | you go install amp |
16:42.17 | mog_home | and ill go edit my config |
16:42.24 | mog_home | well see who finishes first |
16:42.42 | pauldy | now there is an apples to apples comparison |
16:42.51 | ManxPower | Amy may very well be easier and faster....until something goes wrong and you have to actually troubleshoot something. |
16:42.52 | morale | ok i see whats going on.. |
16:43.04 | ManxPower | AMP, that is. |
16:43.17 | mog_home | i disagree |
16:43.21 | Qwell[] | I knew a chic...nevermind |
16:43.26 | mog_home | i think several things are easier in cli |
16:43.27 | pauldy | thats because you aren't being honest |
16:43.36 | mog_home | no |
16:43.39 | mog_home | im honest |
16:43.43 | pauldy | true but modifying your trunk assignments isn't one of them |
16:43.52 | mog_home | umm its one line |
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16:44.01 | naderiano | hello |
16:44.06 | Qwell[] | (prev), heh |
16:44.21 | naderiano | Guys i Need help plz |
16:44.24 | naderiano | <naderiano> I have asterisk 9.0.1 installed on a Linux redhat 8 , when i place a call i'm getting the following error |
16:44.25 | naderiano | <naderiano> frame.c:128 __ast_smoother_feed: Dropping extra frame of G.729 since we already have a VAD frame at the end |
16:44.25 | mog_home | damn qwell wins... |
16:44.33 | mog_home | turn off silence suppression |
16:44.37 | mog_home | naderiano |
16:44.37 | Qwell[] | (prev),n, even |
16:44.39 | naderiano | i did :S same shit |
16:44.50 | mog_home | its on on the phones |
16:44.57 | mog_home | or the gateway your going out |
16:45.11 | morale | thats stupid, all voip providers contexts are case-sensitive.. it makes my configuration files look ugly putting "FreeWorldTel" in them |
16:45.12 | Qwell[] | redhat 8? |
16:45.14 | morale | heh |
16:45.17 | TommyTheKid | wtf!? |
16:45.18 | naderiano | am trying to call, OpenPhone --- GNUGK ---- Asterisk ----SIp |
16:45.24 | naderiano | eh |
16:45.28 | Qwell[] | naderiano: You REALLY should upgrade... |
16:45.33 | Netgeeks | And actually, you are getting a WARNING, not an ERROR if I remember for that message |
16:45.35 | naderiano | to ? |
16:45.39 | Qwell[] | I usually yell at people who run rh9, but...yeah |
16:45.46 | TommyTheKid | RH8 hasn't been a reasonable choice for like YEARS now? |
16:45.50 | Qwell[] | naderiano: something that came out within the last 7 years. :) |
16:45.52 | Netgeeks | ERROR != WARNING != NOTICE.... |
16:45.52 | naderiano | i dont think it is a version matter |
16:46.06 | Qwell[] | no, it isn't. I'm just saying you should upgrade your distro |
16:46.11 | naderiano | i will |
16:46.15 | Qwell[] | You're probably still on like 2.2 kernel, heh |
16:46.21 | naderiano | mmmmm |
16:46.26 | TommyTheKid | why put effort into something that just need rebuilt? |
16:46.28 | morale | 2.2.16 baby. |
16:46.28 | pauldy | whos taking bets on how many hours a redhat 8 box is online before its rooted |
16:46.42 | Qwell[] | which, actually, could be a problem with asterisk. Not the problem you're having, but a problem nonetheless |
16:46.44 | gandhijee | red hat == doo-doo; FC == more doo-doo |
16:46.51 | mog_home | depends pauldy |
16:47.05 | mog_home | i have a redhat box thats not running any services |
16:47.07 | naderiano | with G711 i have no problem |
16:47.09 | gandhijee | even the former VP of redhat says that |
16:47.09 | mog_home | so id say forever... |
16:47.19 | pauldy | your just being contrarian today huh |
16:47.21 | mog_home | yeah you have silence suppresion on somewhere |
16:47.24 | naderiano | what is the best Operating sys for asterisk |
16:47.31 | Qwell[] | Linux |
16:47.36 | morale | QNX |
16:47.39 | Qwell[] | because that's what it's made for |
16:47.40 | gandhijee | whatever linux your comfortable with |
16:47.50 | naderiano | so it is silence supression |
16:47.55 | naderiano | mmmm |
16:48.08 | TommyTheKid | naderiano: if you "like" redhat, go with Red Hat Enterprise or CentOS (the free RHEL) .. my opinion ofcourse :) |
16:48.14 | naderiano | i need to dig into GUNGK configs to check how to disable it |
16:48.28 | TommyTheKid | ~centos |
16:48.31 | jbot | hmm... centos is better than Fedora Core |
16:48.32 | TommyTheKid | ? |
16:48.34 | naderiano | thanks tommythekid i will go for it |
16:49.03 | TommyTheKid | the nice part is.. its actually supported (as in getting patches) .. and 2.6 kernel :) |
16:49.19 | TommyTheKid | but anything made in like the past few years is :) |
16:49.29 | Qwell[] | I'm quite happy with gentoo...no silly upgrade paths |
16:49.45 | naderiano | i will upgrade it as soon as i fix this problem |
16:49.52 | Qwell[] | "nope, sorry, Gentoo 3 is no longer supported. You'll need to upgrade to 4." |
16:49.56 | gandhijee | i think i might try to do a LFB |
16:50.01 | Druken | Qwell[]: i don mind gentoo... but i prefer my slack :) |
16:50.03 | Qwell[] | You'll never hear that, heh |
16:50.15 | Qwell[] | versioned distros are for suckers |
16:50.16 | TommyTheKid | The only Linux I don't like is Sun's JDS (which I think is "gone" now).. too many "missing" things |
16:50.21 | morale | stupid voip provider.. is there a way to turn off context-case matching in asterisk? |
16:50.36 | Qwell[] | morale: hack the code |
16:50.40 | gandhijee | i heard looking glass was pretty nice |
16:50.43 | morale | hax0r |
16:50.53 | TommyTheKid | all eye candy |
16:51.07 | gandhijee | no functionality? |
16:51.20 | Druken | mmmm, eye candy |
16:51.22 | naderiano | am newbieeeee with asterisk |
16:51.26 | TommyTheKid | it "works" but is it really going to change the world.. uh no |
16:51.37 | naderiano | is there an interface that u can run on windows to see the calls stats etc ,,, /. |
16:51.52 | Druken | ~FOP |
16:51.53 | jbot | An XSL formatter written in Java that outputs PDF. URL: http://www.jtauber.com/fop/, or the Flash Operator Panel |
16:51.55 | TommyTheKid | like strace? |
16:53.17 | naderiano | ur asking me tommy? |
16:53.40 | TommyTheKid | naderiano: nevermind |
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16:53.55 | TommyTheKid | I thought you were debugging something.. "calls" to me means systemcalls :) |
16:54.24 | TommyTheKid | yikes.. I wanted to see if I could figure out why "ast_verbose" messages were not getting timestamped.. but its not quite as easy as my sip hack was ;) |
16:56.10 | TommyTheKid | and just from looking, it would appear that ast_log and ast_verbose were written by entirely separate people :) |
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17:10.16 | Yousaf | Hi everyone....how r u all doing today? |
17:10.21 | naderiano | Guys in h323.conf , is there an option for silence suppression ? so i can disable it |
17:10.59 | Yousaf | Seems awfully quite today |
17:11.08 | Yousaf | rough weekend I take it |
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17:13.04 | morale | What are "Channel hints" in asterisk? exten => 6245,hint,SIP/Grandstream1&SIP/Xlite1,Joe Schmoe ; Channel hints for presence.. Does it check to see if they are logged in to the PBX? |
17:14.46 | tzanger | morale: channel hints are for 'extension in use' type of indications (think multi-line telephones, or a receptionist's phone where she needs to see if people are on their phone) |
17:15.09 | morale | ah |
17:15.32 | morale | thanks tzanger |
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17:27.13 | christo | has anybody come across the Asterisk::Outgoing perl module which is mentioned in this presentation? http://community.moertel.com/~thor/talks/pgh-pm-talk-asterisk.pdf |
17:27.31 | ManxPower | It's part of asterisk-perl |
17:28.24 | christo | aah okay - that's the gunther one, right? |
17:28.28 | christo | (or whatever it's called) |
17:28.38 | ManxPower | yes |
17:28.41 | christo | cool thanks |
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17:51.25 | morale | should i use mysql or postgresql.. its looking like mysql is much more supported, to use realtime in CVS HEAD you need to use odbc to access your pgsql databases |
17:55.33 | MacRohard | anyone know a uk sip provider that lets you spoof caller id? |
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18:04.12 | Dr-Linux | anybody have experience with AMP ? |
18:04.33 | loud | (cricket sound) |
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18:08.06 | morale | anyone.. mysql .. postgresql.. |
18:08.07 | Qwell[] | morale: Whatever you feel better with |
18:08.17 | Qwell[] | morale: Thats the beauty of open source |
18:08.28 | cianhugheslaptop | I have just finished a working prototype Cocoa iaxclient for Mac OS X, because I hated everything else out there, anyone want to help with it, I'm low on time at the moment |
18:08.28 | Dr-Linux | anybody have experience with AMP ? |
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18:08.38 | morale | i'd like to use postgresql, but i don't want to use unixodbc connectors. |
18:08.38 | cianhugheslaptop | It will all be GPL'd in the end |
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18:23.35 | hypa7ia | morale: consider that the ODBC one is in main while mysql is in -addons |
18:23.51 | fugitivo | mysql is evil |
18:24.02 | s0lid | is there a channel for asterisk newbie? |
18:24.46 | hypa7ia | s0lid: this one's fine for newbies |
18:24.50 | hypa7ia | fugitivo: indeed |
18:26.37 | Vco | if my irc log is any sort of indicator.... |
18:27.36 | Pegger | there is one channel to rule them all |
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18:30.38 | jpcarvalho | Hello All , Someone with a good heart to share with me .. how to rate my cdr's on my postgresql db ?! |
18:30.49 | Qwell[] | Rate them? |
18:30.52 | jpcarvalho | yes |
18:31.02 | jpcarvalho | i need to have a simple billing |
18:31.50 | Dr-Linux | guys anybody familiar with AMP asterisk web based ? |
18:32.00 | Qwell[] | jpcarvalho: explain what you mean by rate them |
18:32.12 | jpcarvalho | ok |
18:32.19 | Qwell[] | Dr-Linux: Yes, it screws your configs, and makes things more difficult in the long run. |
18:32.21 | Qwell[] | Don't msg me |
18:32.42 | jpcarvalho | ok |
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18:33.31 | jpcarvalho | Qwell : My cdr's are on a postgresql db .. i need to have a script to rate my calls based on : destinational and price. |
18:33.44 | jpcarvalho | My control is based on : accountcode and dchannel |
18:34.09 | jpcarvalho | So , i need to run a script to scan all my db and make a rate for those calls. |
18:34.28 | jpcarvalho | I need that my customer see online this. |
18:34.35 | jpcarvalho | Any idea? |
18:35.10 | file | write one. |
18:35.21 | jpcarvalho | :( |
18:35.29 | Vco | or 2..and use the better one |
18:35.29 | Qwell[] | Pay somebody to write one. |
18:35.55 | file | yes, I'm going to write a complete billing platform for free, put it up online for everyone to use, and not get a dime |
18:36.05 | file | what a good idea |
18:36.09 | Qwell[] | file: k, so it'll be done tomorrow? |
18:36.24 | Vco | i'll need a copy as well |
18:36.31 | file | for sure! |
18:36.34 | Qwell[] | Can I get a beta tonight? |
18:36.36 | xheliox | You'll install it for us too, I'd hope |
18:36.43 | file | definitely |
18:36.52 | Vco | when will STABLE be ready? |
18:37.02 | Qwell[] | Vco: tomorrow, of course |
18:37.07 | xheliox | file's code is stable the first time around. |
18:37.08 | jpcarvalho | Hey folks , *file* is a good guy .. different from who only see $$$ |
18:37.27 | Vco | he sees $$$ + hookers + beer |
18:37.32 | Qwell[] | /Somebody/ needs to tune their sarcasm detector. |
18:37.46 | file | people who want everything, for nothing, annoy me :P |
18:38.55 | jpcarvalho | file can u help with this script?! |
18:39.03 | jpcarvalho | can be a perl ... script. |
18:39.05 | file | jpcarvalho: not for free. |
18:39.35 | jpcarvalho | i can transfer 30 US$ per paypal. |
18:39.44 | jpcarvalho | what do u think ? |
18:39.46 | file | 'fraid not. |
18:40.03 | jpcarvalho | :( |
18:40.32 | file | please try your call again later, this is a recording. |
18:40.40 | Vco | i can make something for $30 |
18:40.42 | Vco | or is there the expectation that it would actually work? |
18:40.47 | Vco | like...at all |
18:40.50 | file | print "Hello World\n"; |
18:41.07 | jpcarvalho | :( |
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18:41.33 | jpcarvalho | :( |
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18:41.50 | nain | Hi |
18:41.50 | file | jpcarvalho: that doesn't change things. |
18:42.01 | Qwell[] | file is a sucker for frownies |
18:42.07 | file | damn right |
18:42.17 | file | you frown, and my consulting rate goes up :P |
18:42.17 | xheliox | help the poor guy, file.. you meanie. :( |
18:42.22 | Qwell[] | heh |
18:42.26 | file | xheliox: I know - I'm horrible |
18:42.27 | jpcarvalho | :( |
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18:42.53 | xheliox | I'd help you jpcarvalho, but *insert any reasonable excuse here*. |
18:42.55 | pagefault | file is evil |
18:43.00 | pagefault | I know from personal experience |
18:43.08 | file | it's true |
18:43.12 | file | I'm the embodiment of evil |
18:43.25 | naderiano | hello guys |
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18:43.29 | jpcarvalho | Well , i can offer 300 US$ in excelent termination to Brasil |
18:43.35 | jpcarvalho | Mobile and Proper |
18:43.53 | naderiano | i just used a quintum GW to place a call and disabled silence suppression , still getting the same error |
18:44.02 | naderiano | frame.c:128 __ast_smoother_feed: Dropping extra frame of G.729 since we already have a VAD frame at the end |
18:44.40 | file | jpcarvalho: go pay for development to have someone write one for you |
18:45.17 | naderiano | anyone can help solving this problem :'( |
18:46.57 | BladeRunner05 | debian 2.6.12, Asterisk 1.0.9: chan_capi 0.3.5 fails while run make . who knows about ? |
18:47.26 | nain | I am getting Connection Failure Error when placing h323 call from asterisk to Quintum Gateway with the same network. I can ping Quintum. Also telnet session is not being established properly and disconnect before entering login info from Fedora Core 3 machine. but I can ping and telnet Quintum machine from Windows Machine in same network. I have disabled Firewall too in Linux machine to prevent any problem. |
18:47.28 | file | BladeRunner05: if you pastebin the error that happens, you have a much better chance of getting help |
18:47.39 | BladeRunner05 | ok file |
18:47.52 | naderiano | file do u have any idea how to solve the problem i mentioned? |
18:48.19 | nain | So guys can any one help me what's matter with Asterisk to quintum ? |
18:48.21 | BladeRunner05 | file: chek here http://pastebin.com/411194 |
18:48.25 | file | naderiano: if I did I would have responded |
18:48.36 | naderiano | thanks file |
18:51.05 | nain | file: Hi |
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18:51.48 | file | nain: hi |
18:52.07 | nain | file:how r u friend? |
18:52.07 | BladeRunner05 | file: have u see the error |
18:52.31 | file | BladeRunner05: I don't use capi, I'd suggest talking to whoever wrote it |
18:52.33 | file | nain: fine |
18:52.42 | nain | file: i am getting problem while communicating from fc3 to quintum |
18:52.49 | file | nain: I know, you already said |
18:53.03 | nain | file: yes, do u have any idea what's the reason |
18:53.43 | Qwell[] | <file> nain: if I did I would have responded |
18:53.43 | BladeRunner05 | Who is experienced with chan_capi ? |
18:53.59 | file | BladeRunner05: Qwell[] can help you |
18:54.20 | Qwell[] | file: Sorry, not today. My knowledge array appears to be null. |
18:54.25 | Qwell[] | :D |
18:54.31 | nain | Qwell[]:hi |
18:54.33 | file | he's just kidding, he has lots of experience with chan_capi |
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18:54.37 | Qwell[] | tons |
18:54.57 | jpcarvalho | Guys , please i need a simple billing for postgresql |
18:54.58 | BladeRunner05 | Qwell[]: I got this error compiling chan_capi 0.3.5 on debian 2.6.12 and asterisk 1.0.9 http://pastebin.com/411194 |
18:55.35 | nain | Qwell[]: Can u Do Fast searching to your array to find my problem :) |
18:55.49 | Qwell[] | nain: nope, I can only do n*2 searching |
18:55.54 | Qwell[] | n^2 |
18:56.04 | Qwell[] | google can though |
18:56.17 | nain | Qwell[]: no problem n*2 it can also work |
18:56.31 | julianjm_ | BladeRunner05, you'll probably need to install some -devel packages... anyway, that output doesn't say anything, as it's not complete |
18:56.37 | nain | Qwell[]: i tried google but not found |
18:56.37 | jpcarvalho | :( |
18:56.42 | BladeRunner05 | Qwell[]: could be a variable on MakeFile or what ? |
18:56.48 | Qwell[] | nain: google wasn't found? That's not good. |
18:56.57 | file | ;( |
18:57.06 | file | I want to be next vonage!!! who help me?!?!? |
18:57.08 | BladeRunner05 | Julianjm: I compile asterisk fine, what kind of package could be missing ? |
18:57.12 | nain | Qwell[]: google might find but my query might not perfect |
18:57.33 | Qwell[] | file: You put a verb in there...wtf were you thinking? |
18:57.36 | Qwell[] | :p |
18:57.37 | xheliox | I'll help you as long as your commercials are less annoying. |
18:57.44 | file | Qwell[]: I'm not good at it :\ |
18:57.45 | julianjm_ | BladeRunner05, paste the entire error... previous was only the last lines... |
18:58.09 | Qwell[] | xheliox: I came up with a great commercial for them... |
18:58.20 | nain | xheliox: do u have solution of my problem ? |
18:58.34 | Qwell[] | scene: green text on a black background - bash perhaps |
18:59.12 | Qwell[] | user cds to a directory where his games are, or something - wants to remove one of them |
18:59.38 | nain | My problem might be TCP/IP or linux related so any guru there |
19:00.04 | Qwell[] | user reads directions, and intends to type types rm -rf . - but he fat fingers the ., and makes it a / |
19:00.09 | BladeRunner05 | julianjm_: the entire error is here http://pastebin.com/411215 |
19:00.56 | fugitivo | Qwell[]: do you think people is going to understand that? |
19:01.07 | BladeRunner05 | Qwell[]: as chan_capi guru can suggest me something to avoid thie errors http://pastebin.com/411215 compiling chan_capi 0.3.5 ? |
19:01.25 | Qwell[] | fugitivo: No. Thats the whole point. |
19:02.05 | Qwell[] | alright, fine |
19:02.30 | Qwell[] | instead of fat fingering it, somebody throws something at his nuts, and he accidently types / instead, and presses enter (while in pain) |
19:02.32 | Qwell[] | Better? :P |
19:05.17 | julianjm_ | BladeRunner05, do you have isdn4k-utils installed? and a kernel with CAPI support? |
19:05.45 | BladeRunner05 | julianjm_: checking... |
19:09.53 | BladeRunner05 | julianjm_: I forgot to install libcapi20-dev, now chan_capi is compiled !!! |
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19:10.59 | BladeRunner05 | but I got an error running asterisk -vvvvvvvvvvgc http://pastebin.com/411230 |
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19:16.50 | pooh_ | BladeRunner05: check capi.conf, zaptel.conf and zapata.conf |
19:17.06 | pooh_ | BladeRunner05: If the capi module is loaded at all |
19:17.13 | julianjm_ | BladeRunner05, do capiinit and capiinfo work? |
19:18.08 | BladeRunner05 | the capi.conf is good also work in another installation |
19:18.44 | BladeRunner05 | julianjm: what's capiinit and capiinfo work? |
19:19.53 | BladeRunner05 | I'm installing isdnutils |
19:24.23 | BladeRunner05 | it fails.... the card is working and all the card driver are running |
19:24.36 | BladeRunner05 | but * return the error loading chan_capi !!!! |
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19:37.30 | Flauto | pooh, you are still here. can i ask a stupid question again |
19:44.03 | Druken | no question is stupid.... |
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19:44.29 | Xen^ | can i call skype users from my asterisk ? |
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19:44.50 | pooh_ | Flauto: sure ;-) |
19:45.07 | pooh_ | Xen^: not yet |
19:45.18 | Xen^ | umm |
19:45.18 | Xen^ | ok |
19:45.28 | flok420 | hi, when I try to dialout I get a 404 error in sjphone and "Check for res for" "is not a local user" and "Stopping retransmission on '66ED2B84-1DD2-11B2-8B72-D132D0F7B1FD@192.168.62.100' of Response 1: Found" in the asterisk logging |
19:45.30 | flok420 | what could it be? |
19:45.53 | Flauto | pooh, can i still install festival after i installed asterisk |
19:46.23 | pooh_ | yes, but you need to patch fesival to work with * |
19:46.48 | Xen^ | pooh_ : i am using cvs head how can i configure moh |
19:47.07 | Xen^ | because musiconhold.conf is different from stable |
19:47.08 | Xen^ | :) |
19:47.18 | nain | Hi |
19:47.20 | pooh_ | Xen^: Check /usr/src/asterisk/configs/musiconhold.conf.sample |
19:47.31 | Xen^ | its differnet |
19:47.31 | Xen^ | man |
19:47.36 | nain | I am getting Connection Failure Error when placing h323 call from asterisk to Quintum Gateway with the same network. I can ping Quintum. Also telnet session is not being established properly and disconnect before entering login info from Fedora Core 3 machine. but I can ping and telnet Quintum machine from Windows Machine in same network. I have disabled Firewall too in Linux machine to prevent any problem. |
19:47.37 | Xen^ | i cna show your using pb |
19:47.37 | Xen^ | :) |
19:47.58 | Xen^ | okies |
19:47.58 | Xen^ | :) |
19:48.08 | fugitivo | what could cause this compiling zaptel? |
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19:48.30 | BladeRunner05 | who is experienced with chan_capi ? |
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19:48.45 | bartpbx | hello |
19:48.50 | fugitivo | http://pastebin.ca/27083 |
19:49.30 | bartpbx | I've updated one of our Servers to todays had an message like "Asterisk ended with exit status 137" on the console the first time today |
19:49.37 | bartpbx | is this a know issue in HEAD |
19:50.36 | pooh_ | fugitivo: very strange makefiles |
19:50.58 | fugitivo | pooh_: cvs from today |
19:51.19 | fugitivo | it looks like compilation is ok |
19:52.04 | bartpbx | gdb says: Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. |
19:52.04 | bartpbx | #0 0x080615e3 in ast_get_channel_tech (name=0x81a9878 "") at channel.c:397 |
19:52.04 | bartpbx | 397 return chanls->tech; |
19:52.13 | bartpbx | anyone seen this before? |
19:56.10 | fugitivo | no |
19:56.25 | fugitivo | what did you do to get that error? |
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20:10.02 | Flauto | pooh, what you mean that ineed to patch it to work with asterisk |
20:12.36 | tzanger | bartpbx: it is a known issue? |
20:12.38 | tzanger | what bugnum? |
20:13.25 | bartpbx | tzanger, I could not find a bug about it |
20:13.34 | bartpbx | I'm just in the process of collecting all info |
20:13.42 | tzanger | I've certainly not seen that and I run HEAD (have been for the last 3 years) |
20:13.47 | tzanger | what's the issue? |
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20:16.28 | bartpbx | I'm in the process of analysing the coredump |
20:16.46 | zoa | hey olle! |
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20:21.27 | bartpbx | tzanger check out: http://pastebin.ca/27086 |
20:22.13 | tzanger | ast_child_inherit_variables? that's a really trivial function |
20:22.18 | tzanger | I wonder if it has to do with the new linked list stuff |
20:22.35 | tzanger | er as_channel_inherit_variables |
20:22.37 | tzanger | er |
20:22.40 | tzanger | dammit you know what I'm talking about |
20:22.49 | bartpbx | not really |
20:23.08 | tzanger | ast_channel_inherit_variables() -- it just copies the variable linked list over |
20:23.25 | tzanger | it walks the list of variables in the source and any _ or __ variables it copies over |
20:23.44 | tzanger | creates a new variable list and adds to it |
20:23.52 | tzanger | it's pretty straightforward, I wonder what broke |
20:24.03 | tzanger | how do you recreate the issue? |
20:24.12 | morale | is it in the latest cvs? |
20:24.20 | tzanger | yeah this is CVS HEAD |
20:24.44 | tzanger | I just wrote a patch to app_parkandannounce that adds a PARKED at channel variable, which is why I know about that func |
20:25.17 | bartpbx | no i can't recreate it |
20:25.20 | bartpbx | not realy |
20:25.31 | bartpbx | I appears from time 2 time |
20:25.45 | tzanger | well from the backtrace can you wlak the variable list and see if there's a bad pointer there? |
20:25.49 | tzanger | i.e. a variable with a name but no value (out of my ass guess as to why it crashed in that func) |
20:26.04 | tzanger | er from the corefile not the backtrace |
20:26.25 | bartpbx | sorry.. I'dont unterstand |
20:27.26 | bartpbx | tell me what i can do |
20:28.04 | morale | do a 'bt' in gdb. and print all of the variables being referenced, you should be able to do p/x 0x080615e3 |
20:28.19 | morale | which should.. if i remember display what is memory at that location in the core dump |
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20:28.58 | tzanger | bartpbx: can you tar up the corefile and the asterisk binary and put it somewhere? Technically it's a security risk since your root password may be in the corefile somewhere but I am not that great a hacker :-) |
20:29.19 | tzanger | you can do it nicer than that |
20:30.16 | tzanger | just "print variablename" -- it'll tell you where it is at and if you walk the ast_variable structure or whatever it's called you can print each element and if my hunch is right you'll hit a 'value = 0x32525241 (invalid memory access)' type of result |
20:31.24 | morale | does the ast_channel_inherit_variables() function not do any sanity checking? |
20:31.35 | tzanger | it shouldn't have to |
20:31.54 | tzanger | you should be using ast_variable_add() or whatever it's called to add vars |
20:32.31 | bartpbx | 1sec please |
20:32.47 | nain | tzanger: Hi |
20:32.51 | tzanger | hello |
20:32.55 | nain | how r u? |
20:33.40 | tzanger | alright |
20:34.01 | tzanger | morale: actually the function uses the macros to traverse the linked list and also to insert a new variable into the channel that's inheriting the data |
20:34.26 | tzanger | I am betting the error's on ast_var_value() |
20:34.37 | tzanger | actually it can't be or it'd be in the backtrace |
20:34.50 | morale | tzanger, yeah im looking at that in channels.c right now |
20:35.12 | tzanger | and ast_var_value() does check |
20:35.17 | tzanger | <PROTECTED> |
20:35.34 | tzanger | that should be inlined I think |
20:35.43 | nain | tzanger: this time i am here with new problem. Asterisk Failed to place h323 call to Quintum with "Connection Failure error". I can ping from FC3 to Quintum but another issue i faced that telnet session expired before telnet login while i can telnet in same network from windows machine ... |
20:35.53 | tzanger | no idea man |
20:35.58 | tzanger | I don't touch h323 with a 10 foot pole |
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20:36.21 | nain | tzanger: it don't seems to be typically h323 problem |
20:36.38 | nain | tzanger: it seems to be Linux or TCP/IP problem |
20:36.39 | morale | where is it allocating memory for the pointer *newvar? |
20:37.02 | bartpbx | I'm back |
20:37.04 | bartpbx | sorry |
20:37.08 | bartpbx | I was on the phone |
20:37.26 | tzanger | nain: saying that linux has a TCP/IP problem requires incredible proof |
20:37.29 | morale | oh nevermind |
20:37.33 | tzanger | morale: it's allocated |
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20:38.03 | bartpbx | tzanger: I've did p/x 0x080615e3 and print variable name |
20:38.06 | nain | tzanger: not linux has TCP/IP problem, problem might be with configration, |
20:38.12 | bartpbx | the resone was: No symbol "variablename" in current context. |
20:38.24 | nain | tzanger: for safe side i had disabled firewall too |
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20:38.29 | morale | no.. the name of the actual variable. |
20:38.58 | tzanger | bartpbx: heh |
20:39.08 | bartpbx | what is the variable name |
20:39.13 | tzanger | morale: I bet it's in the AST_LIST_INSERT_TAIL macro |
20:39.21 | tzanger | er #define |
20:40.23 | nain | tzanger: i think if i can simple resolve the telnet issue then i can place call from asterisk too |
20:40.50 | nain | telnet session expires before i enter login information while it is not the case from windows machine with same ip. |
20:41.35 | tzanger | nain: I'm sorry I don't know |
20:41.39 | morale | telnet session? |
20:42.05 | nain | morale: yes telnet to quintum fail at login prompt |
20:42.28 | nain | morale: it is the only case from fc3 while from any other windows machine quintum is being telnet |
20:43.03 | morale | nain, are you on the same network/subnet as the machine? |
20:43.05 | nain | morale: i have tried by using private ip address on both fc3 and quintum but same |
20:43.14 | nain | morale: yes on same network / subnetmask |
20:43.31 | nain | morale: same ip/netmask worked with windows machine but not from fc3 |
20:43.34 | morale | it drops the telnet connection to port 23 on quintum immediately? |
20:44.07 | nain | morale: immediately mean login prompt appears but it didn't accept any key and after 2 or 3 sec it dropped connection |
20:45.04 | morale | do you have it trying to do kerberos authentication via telnet and drop the connection on failure? what happens when you connect to a different port listening on the machine? |
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20:45.56 | nain | morale: i tried kermit for linux with telnet /nowait option and it works |
20:46.57 | nain | morale: Quintum is only listen telnet session on 23 port |
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20:47.31 | morale | are you running inetd or xinetd? paste me the telnet service definition from whichever |
20:47.54 | nain | i am using xinetd on fc3 |
20:48.58 | nain | morale: i am using default defination of telnet in fc3. i didn't make any change in fc3 telnet defination after installing |
20:48.58 | tzanger | ok how the hell do I tell gdb where channel.c is |
20:49.25 | morale | tzanger: its a coredump, you have to have channel.c in the same location bartpbx had it. |
20:49.33 | morale | or /has/ it |
20:49.50 | tzanger | morale: I can't say "channel.c is /path/to/channel.c" ? |
20:49.55 | bartpbx | it is in /usr/src/asterisk/ |
20:50.31 | morale | tzanger, i don't think so. you could hexedit the coredump and change the location :) |
20:50.36 | tzanger | heh |
20:51.05 | tzanger | yeah that worked |
20:51.23 | nain | morale: any clue |
20:51.39 | morale | tzanger: -d directory |
20:51.40 | morale | <PROTECTED> |
20:51.56 | tzanger | yeah that's where it crashed |
20:51.58 | morale | nain, what is the service defintion you have set for telnet in xinetd? |
20:52.02 | tzanger | AST_LIST_INSERT_TAIL |
20:52.22 | tzanger | the coredump's pointing to the 'break' immediately after anyway |
20:52.50 | nain | morale: i am sorry i am right now on windows machine but it is default defination i didn't make any changes to default defination of telnet for xientd |
20:53.14 | morale | nain, have you tried a different telnet client? securecrt, putty... ? |
20:53.39 | nain | morale: yes kermit for linux worked with /nowait option |
20:53.43 | morale | four more hours to go.. <tick tock> |
20:54.57 | morale | actually, i recall having a problem with windows telnet.. it is actually not fully rfc(telnet) whatever rfc it is complaint. i used to telnet to online bbs's and it would break after recieiving certain control messages. |
20:55.15 | morale | that made /no/ sense whatsoever. |
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20:55.42 | morale | i mean.. windows telnet is broken from my experiences.. try putty on windows. |
20:56.17 | nain | morale: on window putty and default windows telnet worked fine it didn't break but problem with linux machine |
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20:57.43 | swm_ | top - 12:56:56 up 9 days, 12:45, 8 users, load average: 0.15, 0.10, 0.04 |
20:57.45 | swm_ | Tasks: 121 total, 2 running, 119 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie |
20:57.47 | swm_ | Cpu0 : 6.5% user, 3.2% system, 0.0% nice, 90.3% idle |
20:57.49 | swm_ | Cpu1 : 10.8% user, 0.0% system, 0.0% nice, 89.2% idle |
20:57.51 | swm_ | Cpu2 : 5.9% user, 0.0% system, 0.0% nice, 94.1% idle |
20:57.53 | swm_ | Cpu3 : 14.5% user, 2.7% system, 17.7% nice, 65.1% idle |
20:57.55 | swm_ | Mem: 903888k total, 577160k used, 326728k free, 23420k buffers |
20:57.57 | swm_ | Swap: 1960236k total, 0k used, 1960236k free, 271428k cached |
20:58.05 | tzanger | I am fairly certain it failed trying to clone __CALLED |
20:58.24 | morale | a quad cpu machine with only 1gb of ram? pity :) |
20:58.42 | swm_ | It only has 2 CPU's in it but it treats it as 4 thats what I was wondering |
20:58.56 | morale | it probably is the hyperthreading then |
20:59.10 | morale | if it is an intel p4 cpu. |
20:59.24 | swm_ | It's Intel Xeon 2.00 |
20:59.45 | morale | if you cat /proc/cpuinfo does it have the cpu flag 'ht' ? |
21:00.13 | morale | nain, so you cannot telnet from one linux machine to another.. im trying to understand what you're really trying t od |
21:00.33 | swm_ | Yep HT is present in /proc/cpuinfo |
21:00.52 | morale | that would be why then. |
21:01.02 | swm_ | never really could find a place that explained the flags on the cpu's |
21:01.48 | tzanger | hmm gdb's being a bitch |
21:01.50 | swm_ | I have 150 active X clients on my server and it has not cleaned the memory out yet. |
21:02.04 | morale | i wish i was in an atlantic timezone right now, i would be home and not waiting for backup jobs to finish. |
21:02.23 | nain | morale: yes you are right i only can't telnet from fc3 or fc2 operating system with same public ip or private ip |
21:02.47 | swm_ | I'm waiting for the cellular company over here to switch thier damn TZ so my clocks read correctly. |
21:03.01 | morale | huh? your fc3 and fc2 machine both have the same ip's? |
21:03.22 | tzanger | (gdb) print parent->varshead |
21:03.22 | tzanger | $12 = {first = 0x0, last = 0x0, lock = {__m_reserved = 0, __m_count = 0, __m_owner = 0x0, |
21:03.25 | tzanger | <PROTECTED> |
21:03.48 | tzanger | if parent->varshead is an empty linked list (first=NULL, last=NULL) then how is it getting the current var to be __CALLED |
21:04.02 | tzanger | ptype parent->varshead |
21:04.04 | tzanger | oops |
21:04.14 | marc324 | how is the ha1,ha2 fields generated in SER database? |
21:04.21 | nain | morale: no different ips |
21:04.56 | nain | morale: even i assigned quinutm and fc3 machine local ip and telnet but same |
21:05.16 | tzanger | bartpbx: you did make clean before compiling this right? |
21:06.41 | morale | nain, what does the /var/log/messages report on the machine you are connecting to? any errors? |
21:06.54 | bartpbx | jes |
21:06.59 | bartpbx | yes |
21:07.19 | nain | morale: it's quintum gateway and i didn't see any log/messages there |
21:07.41 | tzanger | hmm |
21:07.47 | tzanger | I am not sure how it's arriving at this then |
21:07.56 | tzanger | because parent->varshead points to an empty variable list |
21:08.21 | tzanger | but current (the current variable in the list) is __CALLED |
21:08.27 | tzanger | which doesn't make sense unless it's old memory |
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21:08.34 | bartpbx | hm |
21:08.38 | bartpbx | strange |
21:08.40 | shmaltz | hi everyone |
21:09.13 | shmaltz | bartpbx, what is strange? |
21:09.42 | morale | nain, i'd go ask your question in a #fedora channel, you must have something misconfigured.. check the firewall if it is your gateway.. it obviously will need to be doing some type of ip routing/forwarding with iptables,ipchains.. |
21:09.44 | bartpbx | I wa talking to tzangler a bout an issue |
21:10.28 | tzanger | the parent varshead points to an empty list |
21:10.31 | nain | morale: #fedora channel on which server ? |
21:10.32 | shmaltz | ~politician |
21:10.33 | jbot | hmm... politician is the art of one being very busy but not accomplishing a thing |
21:10.33 | tzanger | but the child varshead has data |
21:10.38 | tzanger | I guess tha'ts not totally unusual |
21:10.47 | morale | nain, there should be on here.. /j #fedora |
21:10.55 | shmaltz | ~politics |
21:10.56 | jbot | Yerp. Everyone has their own opinion. Please discuss them elsewhere. This is #debian, not #politics. [If you wanna discuss politics, that's cool, just do it elsewhere.] |
21:11.19 | nain | morale: thanks |
21:12.00 | tzanger | the child has one variable |
21:12.04 | tzanger | DIALEDPEERNUMBER = pbxnet01@planinternet/494076980606 |
21:12.10 | tzanger | the parent has none |
21:12.17 | tzanger | but the current variable is __CALLED |
21:12.35 | tzanger | __CALLED = 494022611090 |
21:12.58 | tzanger | how the hell can current be non-null if parent->varshead=NULL? |
21:13.19 | bartpbx | ??? sounds strange |
21:13.41 | bartpbx | maybe the problem is starting somewhere else |
21:13.57 | tzanger | morale: any ideas? |
21:14.05 | tzanger | no |
21:14.13 | tzanger | this is very wrong if it's true |
21:15.25 | tzanger | oh wait look at this |
21:15.32 | tzanger | (gdb) print parent->name |
21:15.32 | tzanger | $25 = "\000\000\000\000Q\223\032\b__CALLED\000494022611090", '\0' <repeats 15 times>, "9\000\000\000\220\223\032\b\226\223\032\b\002\000\000\000\001", '\0' <repeats 15 times>, " \222\032\b" |
21:15.38 | tzanger | that's certainly fucked |
21:15.51 | tzanger | (gdb) print child->name |
21:15.51 | tzanger | $26 = "IAX2/planinternet-21", '\0' <repeats 59 times> |
21:16.03 | tzanger | which looks far more normal |
21:16.11 | tzanger | it looks like the parent channel's corrupted somehow |
21:16.23 | bartpbx | but how |
21:16.31 | tzanger | well we ned to look further up the chain then |
21:16.46 | tzanger | the problem's not in ast_channel_inherit_variables |
21:16.49 | tzanger | it's before then |
21:16.53 | tzanger | and just manifests there |
21:17.34 | tzanger | the frame before then has chan->name that's also corrupt |
21:17.45 | *** join/#asterisk the-dark (n=mfecojh@p508E30DA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
21:19.08 | the-dark | hi there |
21:19.55 | the-dark | can someone help |
21:20.06 | exoxe | when running with -v, is it common to get "Urgent handler"? |
21:20.37 | tzanger | exoxe: that's -d not -v |
21:20.58 | exoxe | er, yeah |
21:23.09 | tzanger | you're asking ofr debug info and you're getting it. If you don't want it, don't use -d |
21:23.30 | the-dark | please? can someone help? |
21:23.41 | bartpbx | the-darko, with what? |
21:24.11 | tzanger | ok it's bad e-fucking-nough that someone wrote realtime, but they used SELECT * in the code?!! |
21:24.27 | morale | heh |
21:25.04 | the-dark | i have a prob with an hfc based card and isdn...my gigaset dect rings only once and asterisk says busy on zap |
21:27.20 | the-dark | no ideas? |
21:27.58 | bartpbx | the-darko, hm sounds strange I've never heard about that before |
21:29.08 | the-dark | maybe a problem with bristuff? |
21:29.47 | the-dark | analog phones at a ta 33 a/b workin fine |
21:31.47 | tzanger | select * speeds NOTHING up |
21:32.00 | supaigtr | Delvelopment. Lazyness. |
21:32.00 | tzanger | supaigtr: please hand in your DBA badge on your way out. |
21:32.19 | tzanger | yes laziness for sure |
21:32.24 | supaigtr | they using it everywhere in realtime? |
21:32.40 | tzanger | not sure I was just helping someone out with a realtime issue and discoverd the SELECT * |
21:33.15 | supaigtr | :). I am digging deeper into the IAX2 problems. Bought to pull my hair out. |
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21:33.41 | fiber0pti | anyone have experience with using a Tivo with asterisk over a voip connection? |
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21:33.59 | supaigtr | Huh? U mean dialup tivo data? |
21:34.06 | file[laptop] | yay blitz_laptop! |
21:34.17 | blitz_laptop | booooo |
21:34.34 | tzanger | supaigtr: which issues? |
21:34.48 | file[laptop] | blitz_laptop: SO - dinner on the night of November 11th - good idea? |
21:34.53 | tzanger | way back when I was a bell expressvu subscriber I had my IRD in an FXS port |
21:35.01 | tzanger | it worked reasonably well but not perfectly |
21:35.14 | blitz_laptop | file[laptop]: depends... whenever I do these things I usually get extremely busy. |
21:35.17 | fiber0pti | supaigtr: nod.. whatever tivo uses a phoneline for |
21:35.26 | file[laptop] | blitz_laptop: bad bad bad! |
21:35.30 | blitz_laptop | file[laptop]: I can't guarentee exactly what is going on that evening/weekend :) |
21:36.36 | Vco | i didn't think there actually wer BEV "subscribers" way back when.... |
21:37.46 | morale | how do the /etc/odbc.ini and /etc/odbcinst.ini files differ? |
21:39.22 | supaigtr | tzanger: Random disconnect lost audio in one direction. Thought it was the network but I've ruled that out. |
21:40.03 | tzanger | hmm odd |
21:40.11 | supaigtr | fiber0pti: It won't work very well. The HDVR2 series wont' work at all. |
21:40.13 | tzanger | any way to reproduce consistently? |
21:40.16 | tzanger | supaigtr: I was |
21:40.18 | tzanger | not anymore |
21:40.27 | tzanger | I have a TV but I only watch DVDs and stuff I download now |
21:40.49 | fiber0pti | supaigtr: I got a DirecTV R10 |
21:41.44 | supaigtr | tzanger: Not really it happens everyday but not at any given point. I haven't been able to capture it yet. Looking thru logs trying to figure out what it should look like. |
21:42.15 | supaigtr | fiber0pti: I carry mine to office once a month to let it update/upload. |
21:42.30 | fiber0pti | supaigtr: haha.. I was afraid of that |
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21:44.29 | supaigtr | tzanger: all I know at this point is its been 2-8 calls a day, only on IAX2-IAX2-SIP calls and users are really annoyed. Seems to happen 2 or more minutes into a call. |
21:47.24 | tzanger | hmm |
21:47.35 | tzanger | I am running CVS HEAD and puting through MUCH more than that without any issues |
21:48.02 | tzanger | there *was* a big issue with IAX2 where the jitterbuffer'd take a big shit and put audio 10s into the future or so but that was months ago |
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21:50.30 | Fsillophonie | hi there. who's able to help me with some serious probs at asterisk ? |
21:51.06 | file | a consultant. |
21:51.10 | Fsillophonie | well, I'll just post my error here and hope that so will answer :) |
21:51.49 | supaigtr | tzanger: We have about 30 systems but this is the largest and the only one having problems. |
21:51.57 | Fsillophonie | I'm trying to set up asterisk on a debian system but I can't get it work |
21:52.19 | supaigtr | tzanger: Main problem is I dont' see a problem in the logs. |
21:52.21 | Fsillophonie | with the newest cvs release it just works fine, but i need zaphfc |
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21:53.08 | Fsillophonie | when I install the bristuff release, zaphfc works fine, but asterisk won't connect to the sip server |
21:54.07 | Fsillophonie | I get the warning that the peer is unreachable |
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21:55.22 | Fsillophonie | and next I get the notice that registration timed out and then theres the error that maximum retries exceeded on call [hex]@172.0.0.1 |
21:55.55 | tzanger | supaigtr: well if 30 systems running the same code work and one doesn't... doesn't that indicate something to you? |
21:56.13 | tzanger | Fsillophonie: this is something that has recently happened with CVS HEAD |
21:56.26 | tzanger | you might want to back down until you see it fixed |
21:57.19 | Fsillophonie | hmm... you mean one of the older bristuff releases might work ? |
21:57.43 | supaigtr | tzanger: I get the feeling its load related. Backing down to stable fixes it but creates other problems. |
21:58.16 | supaigtr | Of the 30 this is one out of 3 using IAX. Rest are PRI - SIP. |
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22:00.22 | tzanger | supaigtr: don't back down to stable, just back down the CVS date |
22:00.32 | tzanger | supaigtr: cvs -D "one week ago" up |
22:00.35 | javo | is there a faq for this channel? |
22:00.40 | tzanger | if it's still broken, back up two weeks |
22:00.58 | morale | fuck this realtime shit is so broken |
22:01.36 | supaigtr | tzanger: I've scaled back 2 weeks and its broke. Then I ran out of time to go back further. |
22:02.10 | tzanger | supaigtr: sorry |
22:02.13 | supaigtr | I have to be careful since its a production system and I can't reproduce the load / situation elsewhere. |
22:02.19 | tzanger | supaigtr: yeah |
22:02.23 | javo | i am wondering how i can set up my zap trunk to not answer the phone when it rings |
22:02.32 | supaigtr | Any debugging suggestions? |
22:03.00 | tzanger | supaigtr: not without a lot more data, but I don't have time to dig into that at this point, sorry |
22:03.15 | tzanger | javo: put it in a context that does not have an Answer() |
22:03.36 | javo | ok thanks |
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22:04.08 | Sp3ciaL_K | werd up |
22:04.37 | supaigtr | tzanger: Is there something to look for in the IAX traffic that would indicate lost audio? |
22:04.49 | tzanger | supaigtr: just lost frames |
22:05.13 | Sp3ciaL_K | bad codec? |
22:05.13 | tzanger | iax2 jb debug will give you a very visual indication but it's problematic to follow with more than one concurrent call |
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22:05.49 | supaigtr | Yea. I see very few lost frames if any. I'm getting like 6-10 secs of lost audio. |
22:06.30 | tzanger | supaigtr: that sounds very similar ot the problem I was having before. but as I said that seemed to correct itself after a cvs update several months back |
22:06.35 | supaigtr | tzanger: I'm thinking the the iax2 jb debug isn't robust enough to debug what I have to look at. Maybe improving it would be the next logical step for me to figure this out? |
22:06.53 | tzanger | supaigtr: tcpdump |
22:07.07 | Sp3ciaL_K | what is iax2 jb debug? |
22:07.09 | supaigtr | I have a few dumps but they are even harder to track calls. |
22:07.58 | kuku5 | is there any software that monitors asterisks... quality |
22:08.33 | tzanger | kuku5: nothing I've seen yet |
22:10.20 | tzanger | I wonder if it'd be possible to patch a monitor() like function into all calls and run a simple pop/click filter over it (basically a lightweight detector of network issues) and correlate the call source/destination and generate MOS-like scores |
22:10.20 | tzanger | well it's likely possible, monitor already does it but spits to a file |
22:10.20 | tzanger | I wonder ohw difficult or processor intensive it would be |
22:13.14 | supaigtr | tzanger: I have a few voicemails with the problem. Does't IAX know if network packets are lost anyways? |
22:13.21 | file | mmm? |
22:13.39 | tzanger | supaigtr: yes, that is what hte jitter buffer tries to remedy |
22:14.14 | supaigtr | I guess thats where I have a problem. New jitter buffer reports no problems but audio is getting lost or call is dropped. |
22:14.23 | tzanger | supaigtr: well dig in and try to fix it then |
22:15.00 | supaigtr | tzanger: I'm working and learning about it. Its alot to take in under the pressure of a broken system :) |
22:15.16 | tzanger | yes it is |
22:15.20 | tzanger | quick fix: turn off the jitter buffer |
22:16.01 | morale | has anyone got realtime+pgsql voicemail working? |
22:16.08 | supaigtr | Thats just it. It doens't seem to be the jitter buffer. I've turned it off and still get the issue. |
22:16.16 | tzanger | then it's definitely not the jb |
22:16.20 | tzanger | are you *sure* it's not a network issue |
22:16.22 | tzanger | tcpdump helps here |
22:16.33 | tzanger | because you look at the timestamps of the actual packets coming back and you can see if there's a gap |
22:17.04 | supaigtr | I'm fairly sure. How do the timestamps relate? I havent' gotten that down yet. |
22:17.33 | tzanger | you should be receiving an IAX2 packet every 20ms |
22:17.46 | tzanger | if if you're not, you've got packet delay/loss |
22:18.03 | supaigtr | Ok. Lemme look at a capture. |
22:20.37 | supaigtr | at 10000ms I see a LAGRQ. Otherwise every 20ms i get a packet. There are 12 calls active at this time. |
22:21.13 | supaigtr | Then same kinda thing at 20000ms |
22:21.16 | tzanger | I find it's handy to use perl to take the raw output and do some brute force work... eliminate all non-audio frames, calulate the time between frames for each call, then spit out the cleaned up data to a csv to put itno scalc so I can graph it |
22:21.41 | supaigtr | That sounds like a nice tool. |
22:22.07 | supaigtr | It the 10000ms interval for the LAGRQ traffic normal or is that a sign of trouble? |
22:23.00 | tzanger | nope that's normla |
22:23.10 | tzanger | every 10s it's basically getting lag stats |
22:23.43 | tzanger | supaigtr: it's just a perl script that tries to make sense of the stream... nothing fancy (I don't have it handy here and it's not that advanced) |
22:24.28 | morale | http://pastebin.ca/27089 - that is my realtime setup.. any idea why it is not showing any voicemail boxes? |
22:24.31 | supaigtr | I guess I could set that up with TCPDUMP and have an alert sent out when there is a problem. |
22:24.46 | tzanger | supaigtr: interesting idea |
22:24.51 | tzanger | I think snort would work better for that |
22:24.56 | tzanger | since the infrastructure's already there |
22:25.20 | supaigtr | Yea. I have snort already up. One thing though doesn't the new JB track this anyways? |
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22:25.38 | tzanger | supaigtr: it should but if you have 10s of no packets for a call no jb in the world will help |
22:26.35 | tzanger | supaigtr: is there anything strange about this box? is it running any services that none of the others are? |
22:26.41 | supaigtr | I don't really see the 10s of no packets on the IAX side of things. maybe something on the IAX - IAX - SIP side of things. |
22:26.53 | tzanger | are you able to physically swap two boxes and swap their configs to see if it stays with the box or ont? |
22:27.21 | konfuzed | gee there seems to be so many more factors out of ones control with voip than the usual bazillion reasons people call to complain there internet is not working when there is no actual service problem |
22:27.24 | supaigtr | tzanger: No. Exact same hardware. Swapped boxes etc. Configs may be a little different. |
22:27.40 | tzanger | supaigtr: regardless, have you pysically swapped boxes |
22:27.46 | supaigtr | Yep. |
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22:27.52 | tzanger | hmm and it stays with the location |
22:28.24 | fugitivo | i have problems with make install for zaptel, just make works fine |
22:28.28 | fugitivo | http://pastebin.ca/27083 |
22:28.41 | FuriousGeorge | is there an "unofficial" eta for * 1.2? |
22:29.00 | supaigtr | Yep. Same setup. We have a GIG-E pon with numerous sites. At that site it just has problems but its heavyest load and feed via IAX rather than other sites that have PRI. |
22:29.30 | tzanger | well that's a significant difference. :-) |
22:29.55 | fugitivo | it's a pain in the ass debugging of that line :) |
22:30.14 | supaigtr | Yep. IAX seems to cause the problem. I have let them go a week without * using SER and TNT using SIP ULAW and things worked flawlessly. |
22:30.25 | supaigtr | besides not having voicemail for a week etc. |
22:30.27 | supaigtr | :) |
22:30.59 | tzanger | ok so it's definitely IAX2 from your description |
22:31.01 | tzanger | has it ever worked? |
22:32.27 | supaigtr | It worked during testing phases. Then when actual traffic hit it we started having problems. Other IAX works. But not in the number of calls going to this box. We have 2-4 calls over most other system with IAX. This one reaches 30-60 during the day. |
22:33.16 | supaigtr | Statiscally looking at the help desk it has never happend with less than 12 calls. I have 6 reports in the 12-20 call range. |
22:34.18 | morale | anyone here have realtime working.. i should start here.. :) |
22:34.20 | supaigtr | I actually have a VPN connection to the site and used my polycom all last week and never had a problem. I accused that office of being crazy. Then I drove out called my cell and two minutes into the call I heard the problem. |
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22:36.48 | morale | how do i submit patches to asterisk-cvs? |
22:37.29 | tzanger | supaigtr: when you're at these call volumes open up antoher terminal window and execute 'vmstat 1' -- are you seeing 0% CPU idle? |
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22:46.22 | supaigtr | No. |
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23:02.07 | Neter66 | is it possible to register a phone _without_ using authentication? There is a known issue with Mediatrix boxes and SIP authentication. I'd like to configure * to no require a password, but just use IP address for authentication. Possible? |
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23:06.20 | supaigtr | Meter66: Yes. Lookup on wiki about asterisk with maxtnt. |
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23:09.46 | exoxe | i got my scooter from the scooter store |
23:15.00 | exoxe | will caller ID still work on an analog phone if setup correctly? iax -> ata -> pots phone |
23:15.12 | exoxe | just curious, haven't received my ATA yet |
23:15.31 | xheliox | As long as the ATA supports it. |
23:15.32 | Nivex | exoxe: works fine here |
23:15.37 | exoxe | cool |
23:15.43 | exoxe | it's one of those PAP2 linksys ATAs |
23:15.51 | xheliox | Should be fine. |
23:15.55 | exoxe | okie dokie |
23:15.59 | X-Rob | Except the PAP2's do SIP, not IAX. |
23:16.07 | xheliox | Yeah, that's a fair point. :) |
23:16.13 | exoxe | well yeah |
23:16.15 | xheliox | Are you putting Asterisk in there somewhere? |
23:16.18 | exoxe | sorry, I meant asterisk |
23:16.30 | Nivex | iax -> * -> ata -> pots phone |
23:16.32 | exoxe | i was thinking teliax using iax |
23:16.37 | exoxe | yeah |
23:16.40 | exoxe | sorry :) |
23:16.54 | xheliox | that's my exact home setup and caller ID works great. |
23:17.00 | exoxe | cool |
23:17.56 | xheliox | I use that caller ID anywhere.com lookup script with it too.. makes it extra nice. :) |
23:18.05 | xheliox | anywho* |
23:18.15 | exoxe | i have a cordless base + cordless.. are there any analog phones that have some way of knowing which phone should ring? I'm doubting it, but I'm throwing it out there |
23:18.26 | exoxe | and I'm not seeing it in the manual at all (for my analog system) |
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23:18.59 | xheliox | exoxe: Some ATA's have distinctive ring, I believe.. but that's probably not what you mean. |
23:19.20 | X-Rob | exoxe - no. There's none that I know of. |
23:19.38 | exoxe | fair enough |
23:21.09 | benno2 | hi, question: did anyone discover an automated way to program multiple grandstream bt101 automatically (they have some mass provisioning system but it's not open). alternatives ? custom scripts that simulate browser webaccess ? (via curl etc) ? |
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23:27.20 | deezed | JerJer you around? |
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23:40.12 | doctor_za_ljubav | can anyone help me with False answer problem on Asterisk? |
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23:52.01 | shmaltz | wow, so quiet here |
23:55.11 | Neter66 | I'm getting a 403 Not allowed when trying to register. * is sending a OPTIONS sip:192.168.1.102 SIP/2.0 but the device only allows INVITE, ACK, BYE, CANCEL, REFER, NOTIFY Can I get * to stop sending OPTIONS during the registration? |
23:57.01 | Neter66 | sorry, it's a 405 not allowed. |
23:57.02 | exoxe | chan_iax2.c:2455 iax2_read: I should never be called! |
23:57.03 | file[laptop] | Asterisk doesn't send OPTIONS on a register, it sends it if you have qualify on |
23:57.05 | exoxe | i wish i knew why i got that |
23:57.33 | file[laptop] | exoxe: essentially chan_iax2 didn't send a frame of audio into it's channel, so something else requested that one be read - but chan_iax2 doesn't work like that |
23:58.41 | exoxe | well, it happens only when i call into asterisk, via teliax or FWD.. are you saying I have a config issue? :) |
23:58.51 | file[laptop] | no |
23:59.09 | file[laptop] | it's not caused by a config issue, it's a core issue... not really something you can track down |
23:59.25 | exoxe | so I just have to live with it? |
23:59.37 | file[laptop] | sure! |
23:59.45 | exoxe | sweet |