| 00:00.09 | Katty | hmm, tab complete sorta works. |
| 00:00.17 | fugitivo | bitchx is the client! |
| 00:00.24 | Katty | irssi is teh client kthxbi |
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| 00:01.32 | pc5 | Has anyone done a fax>email or email>fax gateway with asterisk? |
| 00:02.03 | Qwell | pc5: watch it if you do...lawsuits going around |
| 00:02.20 | DrukenHME | Qwell: lawsuits for? |
| 00:02.43 | Qwell | fax>email |
| 00:02.47 | myke | those kinda gateways have been around for over a decade with hylafax and regular phone lines, not legal now? |
| 00:02.57 | Qwell | myke: patents... |
| 00:03.02 | fugitivo | not if you are in the us |
| 00:03.06 | myke | f patents >:( |
| 00:03.09 | anonobomber | irssi smokes everything! |
| 00:03.09 | tamp4x | telnet is the client fo0lz |
| 00:03.33 | bkw__ | DON"T DO IT |
| 00:03.36 | bkw__ | you betta don't |
| 00:03.41 | bkw__ | fax to email == lawsuit waiting to happen |
| 00:03.43 | Katty | bkw_: hihi |
| 00:03.49 | fugitivo | silly patents |
| 00:03.57 | myke | stupid. i had fax to email in like 1996. |
| 00:04.02 | Katty | bkw_: hmm, i dunno. our copier at work will do that. |
| 00:04.09 | Qwell | myke: you're most certainly right though...tons of prior art |
| 00:04.13 | bkw__ | tell that to our lawyers that have to defend us from J2/eFax |
| 00:04.33 | fugitivo | bkw__: how is that issue going? |
| 00:04.39 | bkw__ | no clue |
| 00:04.42 | bkw__ | lawyers have it now |
| 00:05.06 | Katty | silly patents. |
| 00:06.07 | hardwire | I have got to find the motivation to clean |
| 00:06.11 | hardwire | or my g/f is going to blow my brains out |
| 00:06.18 | Qwell | that should be motivation enough |
| 00:06.18 | fugitivo | patents should not be applied to ideas |
| 00:06.19 | bkw__ | really? |
| 00:06.27 | bkw__ | depends |
| 00:06.27 | hardwire | Qwell: you would think |
| 00:06.34 | Qwell | hardwire: wait until you're married |
| 00:06.34 | bkw__ | what does he mean by "blow his brains out" |
| 00:06.40 | bkw__ | that could be a good thing |
| 00:06.44 | Qwell | bkw__: certainly not the one in his penis |
| 00:06.50 | hardwire | fugitivo: I bet you fould find a reason for IP at some point |
| 00:06.51 | bkw__ | never know |
| 00:06.53 | Supaplex | haha bkw__ I was thinking the same thing :) |
| 00:07.00 | hardwire | fould/could |
| 00:07.23 | hardwire | fugitivo: if not just to protect the purity of an idea |
| 00:08.06 | fugitivo | one thing is patent a method of implementation of the idea, another thing is patent an idea |
| 00:08.11 | hardwire | for instance.. if somebody would have patented e-mail advertisement as their idea.. and documented it.. once approved they could have been the only broker for it.. |
| 00:08.26 | fugitivo | there're several methods to implement an idea |
| 00:08.31 | bkw__ | then we would have only one company to blow up |
| 00:08.40 | hardwire | bkw_: problem solved for the next 100 years |
| 00:08.42 | bkw__ | as it stands... we need to bomb many people all over to stop spam |
| 00:08.52 | Qwell | hardwire: until Disney increases patent length again |
| 00:08.59 | Qwell | or was it trademark? nevermind |
| 00:09.00 | hardwire | Qwell: heh |
| 00:09.04 | hardwire | tm |
| 00:09.18 | Supaplex | disney is teh suck for that |
| 00:09.36 | Qwell | trademark law is far less silly then patent law |
| 00:09.38 | bkw__ | no matter how gay disney is that sucks |
| 00:09.55 | hardwire | Tyra banks is an odd kind of hot |
| 00:09.59 | hardwire | I should just turn off the TV |
| 00:10.01 | Qwell | but, I do want my trademark on Qwell Communications |
| 00:10.01 | Supaplex | Qwell: that's unless the tm dillition protection act is passed. check eff.org |
| 00:10.21 | Qwell | hardwire: and close your irc client |
| 00:10.33 | hardwire | what are you my g/f! |
| 00:10.39 | Supaplex | that's too similar to Qwest *shudder* |
| 00:10.41 | FuzzyCat | it was copyright for disney, not trademark... |
| 00:10.46 | Qwell | Supaplex: nah, what I was thinking... |
| 00:10.50 | Qwell | Qwell Comm |
| 00:10.53 | hardwire | FuzzyCat: ah.. |
| 00:11.01 | Qwell | I'd get my ass handed to me if I ever did that |
| 00:11.07 | hardwire | because of the original mickey right? |
| 00:11.12 | FuzzyCat | yup |
| 00:11.23 | Supaplex | steam boat willey, and a whole bunch of other rip offs |
| 00:11.25 | Qwell | Mickey has a copyright? |
| 00:11.46 | FuzzyCat | but it proves the point that big business runs the US... |
| 00:11.47 | jskcr | Mickey has whats called a perpetual copyright |
| 00:11.48 | hardwire | Qwell.. that would soundex return Qualcom |
| 00:11.54 | Qwell | hardwire: exactly |
| 00:12.00 | Qwell | thats why my ass would be handed to me |
| 00:12.01 | jskcr | The copyright for mickey mouse does not expire |
| 00:12.23 | hardwire | heh |
| 00:12.30 | myke | well, anytime it's near expiration disney tells the govt to extend the length of copyrights again |
| 00:12.31 | hardwire | Steam Boat Hitler. |
| 00:12.47 | Supaplex | lobbys |
| 00:12.55 | Qwell | how long do patents last? |
| 00:13.02 | jskcr | 17 years |
| 00:13.10 | Qwell | too long |
| 00:13.16 | hardwire | how long before its officially public domain? |
| 00:13.37 | myke | actually there was a recent patent that, if passed, would make the patent office's own web site illegal |
| 00:13.38 | hardwire | just past the ideafull lifespan of most humans :) |
| 00:13.43 | jskcr | 18 years |
| 00:14.17 | hardwire | damn tyra banks has some knockers. |
| 00:14.24 | hardwire | I am supposed to notice that.. right? |
| 00:14.28 | FuzzyCat | quick, patent them |
| 00:14.40 | hardwire | hah |
| 00:14.41 | FuzzyCat | then demand to have use of them |
| 00:14.49 | hardwire | I will share stock |
| 00:14.56 | Qwell | patent pool |
| 00:15.00 | *** part/#asterisk Egonis (n=Egonis@toronto-HSE-ppp3995641.sympatico.ca) |
| 00:15.45 | jskcr | there are quite a few public companies who's main source of income is patent litigation |
| 00:16.57 | hardwire | so tyra is trying to become the next ricky lake |
| 00:16.58 | hardwire | haha |
| 00:16.59 | hardwire | ugh |
| 00:17.07 | Qwell | bad fat actor? |
| 00:17.11 | hardwire | you know what I thought was a hoot.. Ricky is in King of Queens |
| 00:17.13 | hardwire | I love that show |
| 00:17.29 | pc5 | Has anyone done a fax>email or email>fax gateway with asterisk? :) Let's disregard the legal issues... for a second. |
| 00:17.30 | hardwire | I have the first few seasons on DVD |
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| 00:17.48 | Qwell | pc5: tons of people |
| 00:17.50 | hardwire | pc5: yeh |
| 00:17.57 | hardwire | spandsp directly to blah |
| 00:17.58 | hardwire | oor |
| 00:18.10 | hardwire | fax to email via hylacax after doing a faxdetect on zap channels and redirecting |
| 00:18.14 | hardwire | hylafax even |
| 00:18.51 | hardwire | oh man.. The Man seems like a great movie.. |
| 00:19.13 | mrfrenzy | what's the advantages of spandsp vs hylafax? |
| 00:19.32 | hardwire | I would think the accuracy of the DSP |
| 00:20.05 | hardwire | I have done none of this |
| 00:20.07 | hardwire | :) |
| 00:20.11 | nick125 | Sep 10 17:19:15 WARNING[19277]: file.c:493 ast_openstream_full: File /var/lib/asterisk/mohmp3/ does not exist in any format |
| 00:20.11 | nick125 | Sep 10 17:19:15 WARNING[19277]: res_musiconhold.c:212 ast_moh_files_next: Unable to open file '/var/lib/asterisk/mohmp3/': No such file or directory |
| 00:20.24 | nick125 | even though theres a mp3 in that directory |
| 00:20.26 | hardwire | nick125: tried making the directory? |
| 00:20.28 | mrfrenzy | okay, I'll have a look at it anyways ;) |
| 00:20.30 | pc5 | hardwire - I've given up on getting spandsp compiled. |
| 00:20.36 | hardwire | hah |
| 00:20.37 | nick125 | hardwire: it exists! |
| 00:20.37 | hardwire | doh |
| 00:20.43 | hardwire | /usr/lib/ or /var/lib/ |
| 00:20.57 | nick125 | /var/lib/asterisk/mohmp3 |
| 00:21.05 | pc5 | hardwire - Hylaxfax seems like an offly difficult way to get a fax in an e-mail, doesn't it? |
| 00:21.06 | hardwire | on the same machine :) |
| 00:21.09 | nick125 | firefly*CLI> moh classes show |
| 00:21.09 | nick125 | Class: default |
| 00:21.09 | nick125 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:21.15 | hardwire | pc5: yup |
| 00:21.19 | nick125 | and that directory exists |
| 00:21.29 | nick125 | moh files show shows the mp3 |
| 00:21.36 | nick125 | native moh btw |
| 00:21.37 | hardwire | pc5: just forward your fax number to an efax account :) |
| 00:21.48 | Qwell | fuck efax |
| 00:21.52 | hardwire | haha |
| 00:22.00 | nick125 | languag..nvm this isnt #gentoo... |
| 00:22.01 | hardwire | somebody is still bitter. |
| 00:22.04 | Qwell | there are cheaper, better, less litigious |
| 00:22.10 | bkw__ | nick125, you need format_mp3 to play mp3's with files based moh |
| 00:22.15 | bkw__ | or convert to ulaw boi |
| 00:22.17 | hardwire | I would be super excited if faxing just stopped existing. |
| 00:22.18 | nick125 | bkw__: its loaded |
| 00:22.24 | hardwire | it would make so many things so much nicer. |
| 00:22.25 | Qwell | hardwire: agreed... |
| 00:22.31 | nick125 | yeah, email is much better heh |
| 00:22.32 | hardwire | scan to email |
| 00:22.35 | hardwire | higher quality |
| 00:22.36 | pc5 | hardwire - That takes $$$ |
| 00:22.37 | hardwire | mutliple colors |
| 00:22.38 | pc5 | :) |
| 00:22.43 | hardwire | pc5: so does your time :) |
| 00:22.48 | pc5 | hehe |
| 00:22.49 | hardwire | oh well |
| 00:22.54 | hardwire | I need to go atleast move something heavy |
| 00:23.06 | hardwire | and hide the seal club I get beaten with on occasion |
| 00:23.08 | pc5 | The death of the fax machien will mean the introduction of network based scanners. |
| 00:23.14 | hardwire | I know when she finds me.. she will jsut beat me harder. |
| 00:23.19 | pc5 | There's some simplicity level to faxing though that makes it desireable. |
| 00:23.36 | hardwire | pc5: yeh.. thats why most scanners have buttons on them now |
| 00:23.51 | hardwire | also.. whats so simple about faxing.. its everywhere. |
| 00:24.13 | hardwire | if it wasn't so popular that little scan button on the scanner would be the preferred easy method. |
| 00:24.30 | hardwire | and outlook and so on would have "aquire image" on it |
| 00:24.45 | hardwire | ever wonder why outlook doesn't have that by default? |
| 00:24.50 | pc5 | hardwire - But scanners aren't in every office across america. |
| 00:24.51 | hardwire | who is paying off MS? |
| 00:24.56 | hardwire | ITS A CONSPIRACY! |
| 00:24.57 | pc5 | hehe |
| 00:25.03 | hardwire | THEY ARE PAYING OFF THE MAN! |
| 00:25.09 | hardwire | this is where I break loose for a few |
| 00:25.19 | nick125 | so, what do i do about native moh being evil again? |
| 00:25.27 | hardwire | recompile |
| 00:25.31 | hardwire | breathe in deep |
| 00:25.33 | hardwire | and poop in the corner |
| 00:25.37 | hardwire | sacrifice a goat |
| 00:25.54 | jskcr | nick moh skiping? |
| 00:26.21 | jskcr | sacrafice a tdm to the music on hold gods and they will be happy |
| 00:26.51 | hardwire | heh |
| 00:26.53 | hardwire | ok |
| 00:26.59 | hardwire | heavy lifting commencing. |
| 00:27.11 | nick125 | moh isnt even playing |
| 00:27.17 | hardwire | wow.. this is one ugly woman |
| 00:27.18 | nick125 | it says the directory doesnt exist even though it does |
| 00:27.47 | Supaplex | strace |
| 00:28.09 | nick125 | it seems like it only works half of the time lol |
| 00:28.34 | hardwire | oh jesus.. tyra banks has gone out of control |
| 00:28.42 | hardwire | I need to go gag myself |
| 00:29.14 | nick125 | LOL |
| 00:31.11 | Guggemand | anyone here tried voipbuster with asterisk, and got unlimited calls to work ? |
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| 00:32.12 | jeffik | anyone know about "ACT" p104sld? |
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| 00:34.04 | bzbw | hi, anyone has a sample config for call group? |
| 00:37.34 | jskcr | Dial (SIP/101&SIP/102&SIP/103) |
| 00:37.51 | jskcr | there ya go |
| 00:40.52 | pc5 | What is voipbuster? |
| 00:40.58 | pc5 | Someone who will disappear in a month? |
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| 00:41.31 | pc5 | lol, nevermind. limit to 1 minute per call. |
| 00:41.45 | Guggemand | pc5 its limited to 1 minute if you dont pay |
| 00:42.09 | Guggemand | when you have 5 euro on your account the free destinations are unlimited time |
| 00:42.26 | pc5 | Gee, I wonder how long that will last. |
| 00:42.30 | BeFalou | please, someone tell me if I'm wrong, I want to call to a regular phone so what is needed is: Softphone -> asterisk -> provider? |
| 00:42.42 | pc5 | BeFalou - One solution, yes. |
| 00:42.49 | Guggemand | pc5 probably not forever, but who cares :) |
| 00:43.04 | pc5 | If you just want to call a number, softphone > provider works too. |
| 00:43.05 | Guggemand | its a big company, running a lot of voip sites |
| 00:43.14 | pc5 | Guggemand - Should work if you cna get sip credentials. |
| 00:43.17 | BeFalou | pc5: if I don't use asterisk what would be on its place? |
| 00:43.35 | BeFalou | oh, that was my doubt... |
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| 00:43.36 | Guggemand | pc5 it _is_ working, but unlimited time calls are only working with their client |
| 00:43.36 | kusznir | BeFalu: if your just looking at one phone line, you don't need asterisk. Softphone -> voip provider. |
| 00:43.43 | pc5 | BeFalou - You just said you wanted to terminate a single call. Don't need a pbv for that. |
| 00:43.49 | Guggemand | thats why i asked for people who have tried it |
| 00:43.55 | kusznir | (voip provider is usually an asterisk server ;) ) |
| 00:43.56 | pc5 | Guggemand - Probably closed somehow / not sip |
| 00:44.03 | pc5 | pbv = pbx |
| 00:44.06 | bzbw | thx jskcr |
| 00:44.18 | BeFalou | hehe, so asterisk is only useful for offices and more? |
| 00:44.22 | pc5 | BeFalou - If your setup is really large, I suggest giving digium a call and buying some consulting time :) |
| 00:44.22 | Guggemand | pc5 i guess, just wanted to know if my account is the only one acting like that |
| 00:44.28 | pc5 | It'll be worth it to get it right the first time. |
| 00:44.36 | pc5 | Guggemand - What, the freebies? Dunno |
| 00:44.43 | bzbw | what is the difference between callgroup and pickupgroup in sip.conf? |
| 00:45.03 | jskcr | no prob bzbw |
| 00:45.03 | jskcr | Im off for thai food |
| 00:45.39 | bzbw | jskcr: Yammmi! |
| 00:46.10 | *** part/#asterisk zedkatuf (n=audela@82-33-115-145.cable.ubr08.azte.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 00:46.17 | bzbw | anyone know the difference between callgroup and pickupgroup in sip.conf? |
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| 00:47.06 | kusznir | befalou: asterisk is for a lot of things. If you wanted to provide a voice menu to callers; if you wanted to run your own calling card company. If you wanted to do least cost routing, and had a few different providers to choose between. If you want to host several softphones from a single provider. |
| 00:47.23 | Vco | you can also automate prank calling |
| 00:47.42 | kusznir | If you want to connect to a provder that doesn't proide voicemail and similar services, if you wanted to run a voice or touch-tone responce service for something (look up account data, whatnot)....... |
| 00:48.09 | count | Is anybody here a polycom cert. reseller? |
| 00:49.05 | kusznir | But for basic single-line phone service, all you *need* is a phone of some sort (soft or hard) and a provider. You *can* set up asterisk and use it for a learning experience (that's what I'm doing, actually) |
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| 00:49.49 | kusznir | Some people are also using an asterisk server at home for home automation stuff (call it, enter the right digits, and their lights turn on, the heater turns on, etc.) That takes extra hardware, of course :) |
| 00:49.56 | bzbw | Emm, maybe I should ask this: does Callgroup and Pickupgroup come in pair in sip.conf? |
| 00:50.07 | Vco | or if you have an excessively unstrssfull life and just want to "mix it up a bit" |
| 00:50.12 | nick125 | kusznir: thats a good idea! i should try that! :P |
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| 00:51.32 | count | bzbw: no |
| 00:51.39 | count | unrelated, I think |
| 00:51.41 | bzbw | count: why? |
| 00:51.49 | count | pickupgroup?: Group that can pickup fellow workers' calls using *8 and the Pickup() application on the *8 extension |
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| 00:51.52 | obsidian-studios | hello all, what's the recommended protocol to use with * and Cisco 7960 phones? SCCP, SIP, or MGCP |
| 00:52.18 | newmember | sip works for me |
| 00:52.18 | count | er |
| 00:52.19 | count | no |
| 00:52.20 | count | I'm dense |
| 00:52.22 | pc5 | does * do anything but sip? |
| 00:52.27 | bzbw | count:then what is callgroup for? I saw in sip.conf.sample they seems related. |
| 00:52.27 | count | I got it mixed up, sorry bzbw |
| 00:52.32 | count | http://voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk+callgroups+and+pickupgroups |
| 00:52.33 | Katty | pc5: lots more stuff. |
| 00:52.40 | count | there's an overview of how they work together |
| 00:52.43 | pc5 | Katty - Thought it only did sip and iax |
| 00:52.51 | pc5 | Katty - Ohh well :) |
| 00:52.56 | count | does sip, iax, h323 and others |
| 00:53.04 | count | mgcp/skinny too I think |
| 00:53.09 | pc5 | Is h323 like... dead? |
| 00:53.11 | obsidian-studios | I have heard SCCP is more robust that sip, but the wiki seems to lead me to believe the phone has more features with SIP |
| 00:53.39 | count | h323 is still big for corporate conferencing stuff |
| 00:53.41 | konfuzed | primus canada uses h323 for some reason |
| 00:53.50 | count | not for voip telephony for the public |
| 00:53.53 | konfuzed | for their talk broadband |
| 00:53.55 | count | it's a pain in the ass :) |
| 00:54.00 | Vco | http://www.cbc.ca/story/science/national/2005/09/09/Giant_colon20050909.html |
| 00:54.02 | obsidian-studios | also seem the 7960 ship by default with SCCP support for use with CCM, and SIP support requires updating software in the phone |
| 00:54.07 | Vco | i sorta wish i still did acid.... |
| 00:54.12 | pc5 | count - "big corporate conferencing stuff"? Please explain. |
| 00:54.33 | count | h323 media gateways to link directories of video/voice conferencing systems together |
| 00:54.40 | kusznir | nick125: check out: http://www.zorg.org/homeauto/index.shtml |
| 00:54.43 | pc5 | ahh ok |
| 00:54.49 | count | like my polycom video systems at all our locations |
| 00:54.52 | pc5 | count - CAn you get h323 phones for cheap now that sip is out? |
| 00:54.52 | konfuzed | Primus Canada's Talk Broadband blows hard. Essentially useless |
| 00:54.53 | tzanger | Vco: looks like a shitty tour |
| 00:55.00 | Vco | *rim shot* |
| 00:55.03 | count | no, I think h323 is usually more expensive |
| 00:55.06 | obsidian-studios | count: video stuff is next on my list ;) |
| 00:55.14 | pc5 | Where can you buy dids for your locality? |
| 00:55.20 | pc5 | 208 - idaho, hailey? |
| 00:55.25 | count | all over the place |
| 00:55.40 | nick125 | kusznir: oo neat |
| 00:55.56 | pc5 | count - With high quality termination? IE... can be faxed across with the right connection? |
| 00:56.01 | kusznir | nick125: http://www.misterhouse.net/ and http://asteriskathome.sourceforge.net/handbook/ (search for misterhouse on the page) |
| 00:56.03 | pc5 | No backhauled with gsm/g729 crap. |
| 00:56.16 | pc5 | count - I'd take an 800 # too, if they are available. |
| 00:56.16 | count | pc5: just find a provider who uses ulaw/alaw |
| 00:56.32 | count | its easier to just get a fax gateway |
| 00:56.38 | pc5 | count - Like? |
| 00:56.46 | pc5 | count - I can't find somoene who will provide an 800 number with g711u for a low cost. |
| 00:56.59 | count | whats 'low' |
| 00:57.02 | kusznir | pc5: asterlink offers decent rates with 877-numbers |
| 00:57.14 | pc5 | count - The closest I can find is nufone, and even though they terminate with g711u, they have issues with support and the quality is marginal. |
| 00:57.30 | count | welcome to the world of cut-rate voip terminators :) |
| 00:57.31 | nick125 | asterlink! they provde ulaw and all that |
| 00:57.32 | file | Asterlink does 800, 866, 877, and 888 |
| 00:57.34 | tzanger | hahahahaha |
| 00:57.35 | konfuzed | the hole point of 800 number service is that the reciever pays per minute long distance charges even if the call is from next door |
| 00:57.44 | tzanger | pc5: you're so full of shit your eyes are brown |
| 00:57.49 | konfuzed | in other words expensive business service not for residential uses |
| 00:57.51 | pc5 | tzafrir - Why? |
| 00:57.57 | pc5 | tzanger - Why do you say that? |
| 00:58.20 | tzanger | nufone's support was less than stellar but their quality has never been below perfect. Sorry man, you've either never been a nufone user or you've got an axe to grind |
| 00:58.49 | obsidian-studios | you all were scaring me a bit, I have a client about to get an account or multiple with nufone |
| 00:58.53 | count | or he had a shitty connection on his end |
| 00:58.54 | count | :) |
| 00:58.57 | pc5 | tzanger - I have chat logs of support personnel asking me for help, starting to help me, and then leaving after I asked them if they left me nad they said "yes". |
| 00:58.57 | kusznir | * question: iax2 show peers shows status as "unmonitored" for my peers. How can I "monitor" a peer? |
| 00:59.05 | count | pc5: use a T.38 relay |
| 00:59.09 | pc5 | tzanger - But that's besides the point. The 866 number quality for nufone is marginal. period. |
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| 00:59.19 | pc5 | tzanger - I can give you two numbers to take the pepsi challenge with if you wish. |
| 00:59.28 | tzanger | every single time I thought I was having an issue with nufone it turned out to be on my end. EVERY time. and jerjer has taken the time on more than one occassion personally helped me out to figure things out and even fix bugs in asterisk due to our debug sessions |
| 00:59.57 | tzanger | pc5: are you sure it's not your connection or the path between you and nufone? |
| 01:00.01 | pc5 | Well I can't get e-mail answer at all, and irc support is hopeless. |
| 01:00.08 | pc5 | tzanger - I have 6 ms latency between myself and nufone |
| 01:00.11 | pc5 | g711u |
| 01:00.25 | pc5 | I have 40 ms latency to stanaphone, and the quality is MUCH better. |
| 01:00.30 | pc5 | Do you want to take the pepsi challenge? :) |
| 01:00.36 | tzanger | pc5: have you done anything through support@? The one time my ticket fell on the floor I asked jerjer about it (citing ticket#) and he got it fixed up quick, probably by bitchslapping whoever dropped the ball :-) |
| 01:00.44 | pc5 | I'll put two phone numbers, one nufone, one not, and let you call and listen to MOH. |
| 01:00.52 | count | nufone only does dids for Michigan right? |
| 01:00.57 | tzanger | pc5: 6ms latency means nothing. Path, providers in path and jitter are what counts |
| 01:00.58 | Qwell | count: and toll free |
| 01:01.01 | pc5 | count - and 800 # |
| 01:01.01 | count | bah |
| 01:01.08 | pc5 | tzanger - No jitter. |
| 01:01.12 | count | do they do number port? |
| 01:01.16 | count | I guess not |
| 01:01.18 | tzanger | then audio quality shoudl be perfect |
| 01:01.19 | count | unless it's in michigan |
| 01:01.19 | pc5 | tzanger - And path to providers is between nufone and their providers. |
| 01:01.19 | count | heh |
| 01:01.20 | Qwell | count: tollfree |
| 01:01.28 | myke | anyone here doing voip calling cards? |
| 01:01.45 | tzanger | myke: practically everyone if you look at the lists. :-) |
| 01:01.50 | myke | heh ok |
| 01:02.17 | count | Is there any polycom reseller who can give out the latest soundpoint 501 firmware/bootrom available? |
| 01:02.21 | pc5 | tzanger - One thing I will say about nufone. incoming 866 # dids are marginal. period. It sounds like it's backhauled frmo provider to nufone over gsm/g729 |
| 01:02.39 | tzanger | pc5: that is really odd. Have you asked support@? or jerjer himself? |
| 01:02.49 | tzanger | I will admit I do not use nufone for origination, only termination |
| 01:02.51 | pc5 | tzanger - Yes I've e-mailed jerjer twice. asked him in irc once. |
| 01:03.10 | pc5 | tzanger - I haven't tried them for term., so I can't say. |
| 01:03.22 | bzbw | after reviewing voip-info.org, it seems that callgroup and pickupgroup is related, but what's really trying to do is this: |
| 01:03.28 | obsidian-studios | pc5: who are you using or would you recommend for 866/888 numbers, or any 800 |
| 01:03.38 | pc5 | obsidian-studios - I'm looking for someone, any ideas? |
| 01:03.48 | DannyF | obsidian-studios, asterlink works well |
| 01:03.51 | bzbw | when one call comes in, multiple phones will ring, if one phone pickup, the rest of them will stop ringing. |
| 01:03.58 | pc5 | tzanger - But I took the pepsi challenge. stanaphone did vs nufone did. you CAN hear the difference. |
| 01:04.00 | obsidian-studios | pc5: I was about to recommend a client go with nufone, but your scaring me |
| 01:04.04 | tzanger | pc5: heh... I find it odd (not impossible, but definitely odd) that origination and termination would be so different |
| 01:04.10 | nick125 | asterlink! they are awesome :) |
| 01:04.28 | pc5 | obsidian-studios - They might be fine for termination. Who knows. I can tell you to run from 866 origination. It's not bad for voice, but sucks for MOH/fax. |
| 01:04.50 | pc5 | tzanger - It could be possible that they bought 866# termination from a third party and are backhauling it. |
| 01:05.11 | obsidian-studios | pc5: voice is all it will be used for, and we will connect to nuphone directly I assume using AIX? |
| 01:05.13 | tzanger | pc5: seems odd if they do all their termination on their own |
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| 01:05.29 | pc5 | tzanger - I don't know about origination though. |
| 01:05.37 | obsidian-studios | pc5: fax is going over a normal pots line and will not be associated with 800, at least not at the moment |
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| 01:05.49 | count | obsidian-studios: you mean IAX |
| 01:05.49 | pc5 | obsidian-studios - Who knows. Use voipjet.com for cheap high quality termination. nufone may wokr too (for term) |
| 01:05.53 | count | :) |
| 01:05.57 | obsidian-studios | count: yep, my bad |
| 01:06.11 | pc5 | obsidian-studios - Make an account, put $2 on it, and try :P |
| 01:06.46 | obsidian-studios | ok, guess I will have to experiment, I also need a provider that has a flexible policy for CID/ANI spoofing |
| 01:06.51 | myke | it depends too much on the network, i've used nufone for a while, sometimes calls are fine, sometimes i can't get them to work at all |
| 01:07.08 | obsidian-studios | not for abuse or other reasons, for legal reasons |
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| 01:07.37 | pc5 | obsidian-studios - None allow ani. Unless you have a ss7 connection to the telco. You do not. But nobody cares, they only see cid |
| 01:07.42 | obsidian-studios | myke: that's no good, the intended use of nuphone would be considerable. not to many lines at first, but a high volume |
| 01:08.03 | pc5 | obsidian-studios - just go to voipjet.com. it simply works. |
| 01:08.10 | count | you should be able to set CID, but not ANI like pc5 said |
| 01:08.27 | obsidian-studios | pc5: from what I understand nufone is one of the only companies that will allow the end user to push of CID info, or what ever the calling party sees on their phone as the calling # and party |
| 01:08.33 | pc5 | asterlinks website sux |
| 01:08.41 | pc5 | obsidian-studios - Just about. voipjet now does too |
| 01:08.50 | tzanger | obsidian-studios: yup it works great too :-) set CIDNum, name is looked up by the final switch |
| 01:09.07 | file | pc5: and what's wrong with it? |
| 01:09.20 | tzanger | I *really* disliked voipjet |
| 01:09.22 | tzanger | like really |
| 01:09.29 | pc5 | file - Took me three mintues to find the damn "sign up" link hidden at the bottom of some page |
| 01:09.35 | pc5 | tzanger - Why? |
| 01:09.42 | obsidian-studios | is there anyone out there worth a damn that I can push up CID info to? |
| 01:09.42 | file | pc5: there is a Sign Up button at the top too |
| 01:09.59 | tzanger | pc5: odd little technical issues, they spammed this channel.. just left me with a poor impression |
| 01:10.06 | pc5 | file - Ohh well, I found it. |
| 01:10.14 | obsidian-studios | I tried with the local telco, but no luck. I think my sales contact did not express it correctly or their equipment does not allow for it? |
| 01:10.20 | pc5 | tzanger - Spamming = bad. But they are obsessed with quality. |
| 01:10.24 | pc5 | Does anyone here sell phone cards? :) |
| 01:10.31 | count | obsidian-studios: do you have digital phone lines? |
| 01:10.37 | pc5 | Voip in and out, sound like it'd be aweful. |
| 01:10.37 | tzanger | obsidian-studios: Bell Canada lets me set CID name *and* number so long as the terminating call ends up in Bell's network |
| 01:10.39 | count | ISDN/t? |
| 01:10.50 | pc5 | obsidian-studios - You need a pri |
| 01:10.51 | tzanger | if it hops off to Sprint or someone else's network my name gets replaced with the db lookup of the # |
| 01:10.59 | count | as long as you have a PRI you can set CID |
| 01:11.07 | count | I think you do it with an ISDN circuit |
| 01:11.09 | obsidian-studios | count: digitial? like via comcast? pri? what's that like ISDN stuff? |
| 01:11.12 | count | no |
| 01:11.20 | count | T-1/3, ISDN channels |
| 01:11.23 | obsidian-studios | tzanger: got to do it in the us? |
| 01:11.27 | count | Yeah, ISDN stuff |
| 01:11.30 | count | not digital like comcast |
| 01:11.35 | tzanger | obsidian-studios: what part of "Bell Canada" did you miss? :-) |
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| 01:11.40 | obsidian-studios | well I am not sure enough lines are being used for that? or the cost? |
| 01:11.48 | count | ... |
| 01:11.49 | obsidian-studios | only like 4 pots lines at the moment |
| 01:11.52 | count | oh |
| 01:11.53 | count | POTS |
| 01:11.59 | count | then you can't set CID on those |
| 01:12.14 | pc5 | telco would have to do it (good luck!) |
| 01:12.18 | count | yep |
| 01:12.21 | obsidian-studios | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:12.33 | count | if you get digital phone service via ISDN or T bearer, then you can set CID with any pbx |
| 01:12.37 | count | that doesnt suck |
| 01:12.37 | count | heh |
| 01:12.49 | file | Bell Canada provides him with a PRI and he can set callerid name and number on it |
| 01:12.55 | obsidian-studios | well what's the next step from pots? fractional T-1's are a bit $, and PRI's? |
| 01:12.59 | file | inside of their network that information is passed between switches so it's delivered inside of the network |
| 01:13.06 | file | when it hops to another network, that switch disregards the name |
| 01:13.13 | count | PRI/BRI, Frac T1 |
| 01:13.19 | pc5 | file - But should retian the number |
| 01:13.23 | file | correct |
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| 01:14.12 | obsidian-studios | how many lines can you get via ISDN? is that basically what PRI/BRI is? I assume less than a fractional t1? What would a fractional T1 be sold in, 8 # blocks? |
| 01:14.13 | pc5 | Who's the moron who ever thought of caller id name anyways? |
| 01:14.17 | pc5 | obsidian-studios - 2 |
| 01:14.25 | pc5 | pri = 24 bri = 2 (isdn) |
| 01:14.41 | obsidian-studios | pc5: ok then for the $ that would be out of the question |
| 01:14.52 | count | then you use voip or go without |
| 01:14.53 | count | :) |
| 01:15.24 | obsidian-studios | client used to have a split T1, 768k data, and 3 or so voice lines, but it was $, for like 3/4 the price they now have a full data t1 and 3 pots lines |
| 01:15.36 | hardwire | I can't clean :( |
| 01:15.48 | hardwire | heh |
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| 01:16.00 | hardwire | obsidian-studios: a friend of mine set up dynamic data/voice via t1 |
| 01:16.25 | hardwire | with the t1 providers proprietary hardware |
| 01:16.43 | hardwire | kinda weird |
| 01:16.48 | obsidian-studios | hardwire: well they need the data bandwidth, so that T1 is pure data. Now it's not out of the question to get another fractional T1 for voice, if the bang vs buck could be justified |
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| 01:17.02 | hardwire | yeh |
| 01:17.07 | count | obsidian-studios: usually around 8 or so lines a frac t1 is gonna be cheaper |
| 01:17.07 | hardwire | I don't like fractional |
| 01:17.10 | hardwire | it makes no sense |
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| 01:17.22 | count | hardwire: what sense doesn't it make? |
| 01:17.28 | count | if you dont need 24 channels why pay for them? |
| 01:17.36 | obsidian-studios | really they are fine with the existing 3 pots lines, we might add one. However the problem is they need a line they can spoof on, thus using another internet connection, comcast most likely, to a VOIP provider that allows for CID spoofing and etc |
| 01:17.42 | hardwire | count: he is paying for them. |
| 01:17.46 | hardwire | or was |
| 01:17.54 | count | he was using them though |
| 01:18.03 | pc5 | pri = $300/month wiht incoming did privleges. |
| 01:18.11 | pc5 | Of course, that is here :) |
| 01:18.11 | hardwire | hahahaha |
| 01:18.12 | hardwire | not here |
| 01:18.16 | obsidian-studios | count: so we are stuck in the bad spot, 4-8 lines, with more of the need for the flexibility with the T1 |
| 01:18.18 | hardwire | its $650/mo |
| 01:18.19 | *** part/#asterisk kashmish_ (n=kashmish@m1.ince.net) |
| 01:18.23 | hardwire | even under a 3 year contract |
| 01:18.28 | pc5 | hardwire - RIP-OFF. |
| 01:18.29 | count | obsidian-studios: bummer |
| 01:18.34 | hardwire | its alaska |
| 01:18.34 | pc5 | And I'm in the middle of NOWHERE in IDaho |
| 01:18.43 | pc5 | Ok, well alaska costs more period, hehe. |
| 01:18.49 | hardwire | alaska is more in the middle of nowhere than anywhere in Idaho :( |
| 01:18.53 | count | haha |
| 01:18.54 | obsidian-studios | not really, the full T1 is $460 a month on special ;) Not sure what a fractional one would run? |
| 01:19.09 | hardwire | mmm |
| 01:19.10 | hardwire | sopanish rice |
| 01:19.13 | hardwire | spanish even |
| 01:19.14 | count | you should be able to get 12 channels for $250 or so |
| 01:19.21 | count | maybe a bit more for line fees |
| 01:19.27 | hardwire | count: if I needed only 12 channels.. that would rule |
| 01:19.30 | obsidian-studios | 4 pots lines with an ADSL is like < 200, so not sure what we could get a fractional T1 for pure voice purposes? |
| 01:19.38 | hardwire | but up here its worth it to just buy the whole damn t1 |
| 01:19.46 | count | I thought you had a T1 not ADSL |
| 01:19.49 | hardwire | because they charge up the whazoo for thhe circuit.. before they even add in the lines |
| 01:20.01 | count | hardwire: yeah, in that case |
| 01:20.08 | count | Here in civlized parts of the world, it's not worth it :) |
| 01:20.14 | hardwire | so I guess I am the first company to offer Alaska DID's |
| 01:20.15 | nick125 | lol |
| 01:20.18 | count | and for data, we use the cableco's fiber network :) |
| 01:20.31 | hardwire | already have I think 2 clients |
| 01:20.34 | hardwire | kinda pathetic :) |
| 01:20.34 | obsidian-studios | count: yes, t1, that was just a pricing example of a package they offered, I think the 3 pots lines alone run like $29+ per line or close to $120 with taxes and etc? |
| 01:20.34 | count | does alaska have more than one npa? |
| 01:20.57 | pc5 | Sometimes you can get 12 chaneels and 768k data. |
| 01:21.01 | hardwire | lets see |
| 01:21.17 | count | obsidian-studios: @460$/mo for a T1, that's only $19/channel |
| 01:21.21 | count | so it's cheaper than what you've got now |
| 01:21.22 | count | :) |
| 01:21.34 | obsidian-studios | count: yes but they are only using 4 channels max now ;) |
| 01:21.40 | hardwire | count: we have quite a few providres |
| 01:21.44 | count | split it with neighboring businesses :) |
| 01:21.46 | file | pc5: did you signup for an asterlink account? |
| 01:21.48 | count | hardwire: NPAs |
| 01:21.51 | count | area codes |
| 01:21.59 | hardwire | just the one |
| 01:22.00 | hardwire | 907 |
| 01:22.01 | pc5 | ya |
| 01:22.02 | count | haha |
| 01:22.03 | count | nice |
| 01:22.08 | hardwire | but |
| 01:22.09 | obsidian-studios | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:22.11 | hardwire | its split up stupidly |
| 01:22.18 | obsidian-studios | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:22.20 | hardwire | to call out of area 907.. its 14 cents per minute |
| 01:22.33 | hardwire | so ten digit dialing can get you in trouble |
| 01:22.38 | count | obsidian-studios: negotiate! |
| 01:22.44 | count | hardwire: ouch! |
| 01:22.47 | count | $.14!! |
| 01:22.52 | hardwire | yup |
| 01:22.53 | obsidian-studios | count: yes I have a decent rep and they seem to be a decent company, FDN |
| 01:22.56 | hardwire | its a monopoly up here |
| 01:22.58 | count | $24.99/mo for unlimited LD here :) |
| 01:22.59 | hardwire | but |
| 01:23.14 | obsidian-studios | count: however when I asked about the CID stuff it was a no go, but that might have been only via pots lines |
| 01:23.17 | hardwire | no other state needs the telco to use a helicopter as their primary means of wire administration |
| 01:23.19 | obsidian-studios | will get in touch with them on Monday |
| 01:23.24 | count | obsidian-studios: you cannot do CID spoofing on pots |
| 01:23.31 | newmember | hardwaire: are you n anchoridge? |
| 01:23.32 | count | the lines dont' carry that data |
| 01:23.35 | obsidian-studios | count: but I should be able to on T1 |
| 01:23.37 | count | yes |
| 01:23.38 | hardwire | newmember: yeh |
| 01:23.51 | obsidian-studios | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:23.56 | hardwire | ah |
| 01:23.58 | hardwire | number plan area |
| 01:23.58 | count | heh |
| 01:24.01 | nick125 | file: why are you dancing on the table? |
| 01:24.07 | file | because I can! |
| 01:24.18 | hardwire | newmember: whats up |
| 01:24.19 | nick125 | file: did you take your meds today? |
| 01:24.23 | file | of course not! |
| 01:24.24 | DannyF | having a good day file ? |
| 01:24.25 | count | I need polycom firmware :( |
| 01:24.44 | obsidian-studios | ok now back to my current problem or question? Cisco 7960, SCCP or SIP, I am not really going to consider MGCP at the moment |
| 01:24.52 | hardwire | as long as nobody here badmouths it |
| 01:24.52 | file | meh it's a decent day |
| 01:24.53 | count | obsidian-studios: SCCP is voicemanager only |
| 01:24.54 | count | so |
| 01:24.59 | count | SIP unless youve got VM |
| 01:25.11 | count | er |
| 01:25.14 | count | s/only/proprietary |
| 01:25.24 | nick125 | file: well, let me give you some music to dance to so you dont look stupid |
| 01:25.25 | hardwire | SMDI |
| 01:25.31 | hardwire | how does that tie into everything? |
| 01:25.37 | obsidian-studios | count: ok, I got a bit of experience with SCCP because of 7910 phones, which I tought was a mistake, but seems to be a decent protocol and decent phones |
| 01:25.41 | file | I'm listening to A-Teens! that's music to dance to. |
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| 01:26.02 | count | SCCP might be great and awesome and stuff |
| 01:26.07 | count | but its not an industry standard |
| 01:26.15 | count | and afaik only cisco gear and some open source stuff supports it |
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| 01:26.37 | obsidian-studios | count: ok, just did not want to through the troubles of getting SIP firmware on the phones if it was not needed |
| 01:26.56 | hardwire | ah |
| 01:27.06 | obsidian-studios | count: I am a little biased toward Cisco gear when in the budget |
| 01:27.14 | hardwire | SMDI alerts legacy pbx's about voicemail state |
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| 01:27.26 | count | yeah, tahts what it appears to do |
| 01:27.38 | count | obsidian-studios: do you have Call Manager, or are you using asterisk? |
| 01:27.43 | count | or something else |
| 01:27.47 | obsidian-studios | count: no CCM, just * |
| 01:27.51 | count | I'd go sip |
| 01:28.02 | hardwire | yay |
| 01:28.09 | hardwire | special olympics are playing Bochi |
| 01:28.09 | obsidian-studios | count: I just prefer Cisco phones |
| 01:28.12 | count | http://voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=SCCP-HOWTO2 |
| 01:28.17 | count | or you go that way |
| 01:28.17 | obsidian-studios | count: and routers and switches ;) |
| 01:28.21 | count | thats for 7920 though |
| 01:28.29 | count | cisco routers fall down and die easy |
| 01:28.39 | count | depends on what you use 'em for i guess |
| 01:28.50 | obsidian-studios | count: yes, I was reading on the wiki about the features with SIP and the 7960's so I was not sure if those are lost with SCCP? |
| 01:29.00 | count | yeah, most likely they are |
| 01:29.05 | count | there isn't hardly anything about SCCP support |
| 01:29.10 | count | but tons and tons about SIP |
| 01:29.11 | hardwire | I need to sell these voice over .. many things .. boxes |
| 01:29.13 | hardwire | they are just so old |
| 01:29.21 | obsidian-studios | count: they have always been good for me, but I also have a damn old and extremely reliable linux router that boots of a zip disk and runs out of ram |
| 01:29.22 | hardwire | they even have a nice proprietary 4.8kbps codec |
| 01:29.31 | DannyF | was something about SCCP on sineapps a while back |
| 01:29.38 | count | eww |
| 01:29.40 | count | linux routers |
| 01:29.46 | count | :) |
| 01:29.52 | hardwire | hey |
| 01:29.52 | obsidian-studios | count: I might get away from Cisco routers if I can build small footprint generic linux boxes and boot them from a cdrom and run out of ram |
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| 01:30.14 | count | what do you route with? |
| 01:30.25 | hardwire | a router. |
| 01:30.31 | newmember | obsidian-studios- try to use CF cards |
| 01:30.33 | obsidian-studios | count: actually I really wanted to have a fun install of gentoo on a machine that I would chroot into to maintain configure, and etc. Then burn to a cdrom and boot a dedicated router from that |
| 01:30.39 | hardwire | newmember: I was about to say that |
| 01:30.40 | count | I mean, which routing package on linux |
| 01:30.43 | hardwire | I use ITX systems w/ CF |
| 01:30.51 | obsidian-studios | newmember: CF is $ and I hear they burn out after a while |
| 01:31.02 | hardwire | so do lasers. |
| 01:31.07 | count | why not just netboot them |
| 01:31.11 | count | 0-foot print |
| 01:31.14 | hardwire | cause they are the routers :) |
| 01:31.15 | obsidian-studios | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:31.22 | hardwire | joke joke joke |
| 01:31.22 | hardwire | haha |
| 01:31.23 | hardwire | ugh |
| 01:31.31 | hardwire | I use debian on CF |
| 01:31.32 | count | what is a router-distro |
| 01:31.37 | newmember | obsidian-studios they might if you use them for VM, otherwise should last a while |
| 01:31.45 | L|NUX | count : iproute2 |
| 01:31.55 | hardwire | I throw routing crap into shorewall or /etc/network/interfaces |
| 01:31.56 | L|NUX | count : www.linux-router.org |
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| 01:32.01 | hardwire | all via iproute2 |
| 01:32.06 | L|NUX | count : probably dead but helpfull |
| 01:32.07 | obsidian-studios | newmember: well I would be running gentoo on cf not sure if it would like all the compiles and etc? |
| 01:32.25 | count | oh |
| 01:32.26 | count | zebra |
| 01:32.27 | hardwire | obsidian-studios: compile it elsewere? |
| 01:32.28 | L|NUX | count : its www.linuxrouter.org |
| 01:32.32 | count | isn't that dead now? |
| 01:32.33 | obsidian-studios | basically I want a version of Gentoo I can run out of a ramdisk, easily maintain, and can't be compromised |
| 01:32.34 | hardwire | quagga is great stuff |
| 01:32.37 | count | I thougth quagga or whatever came out |
| 01:32.39 | L|NUX | count : zebra is good same like cisco :) |
| 01:32.42 | hardwire | I use that for all dynamic routing :) |
| 01:32.54 | obsidian-studios | :) my machine still runs LRP :) 2.2 kernel |
| 01:32.59 | hardwire | wow |
| 01:33.01 | count | hooray for crust |
| 01:33.06 | L|NUX | obsidian-studios : :) |
| 01:33.11 | hardwire | pizza?! |
| 01:33.16 | hardwire | man I want pizza. |
| 01:33.17 | DannyF | L|NUX, try going to www.linux-router.org and see :) |
| 01:33.22 | L|NUX | hehe |
| 01:33.25 | obsidian-studios | off a zip disk, I ran out of room on floppies :) |
| 01:33.35 | obsidian-studios | I do not like coyote and all the others |
| 01:33.47 | L|NUX | DannyF : i think it told him www.linuxrouter.org |
| 01:33.47 | count | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:33.48 | L|NUX | :) |
| 01:33.49 | count | that's hilarious |
| 01:33.51 | L|NUX | <L|NUX> count : its www.linuxrouter.org |
| 01:33.53 | obsidian-studios | now the biggest problem with my custom router is termination cards? |
| 01:34.19 | obsidian-studios | who makes a good data T1 card? Should I buy a digium card for use with say a router? Not really doing voip or * termination? |
| 01:34.27 | count | are you routing anything besides ethernet? |
| 01:34.33 | count | haha |
| 01:34.35 | count | yeah, I was just going to ask |
| 01:34.38 | obsidian-studios | count: not at the moment :) |
| 01:34.45 | count | then why not just use an L3 switch |
| 01:35.13 | obsidian-studios | count: because I do not know what that is? |
| 01:35.17 | count | heh |
| 01:35.29 | obsidian-studios | count: you mean a Layer 3 switch? |
| 01:35.34 | *** join/#asterisk Defraz (n=t0tal@tim.ibccom.net) |
| 01:35.35 | count | yeah |
| 01:35.42 | L|NUX | count : http://www.freesco.org/ this is good for you |
| 01:35.46 | obsidian-studios | how does that help me terminate a T1 at a linux box for generic data use, non-* |
| 01:35.47 | hardwire | layer layer layer.. |
| 01:35.49 | hardwire | 3 times.. |
| 01:35.50 | CoaxD | Been a long time since i could just sit down, and read a novel all afternoon |
| 01:35.55 | hardwire | mwea ha ha haaa |
| 01:35.56 | hardwire | right count? |
| 01:36.00 | CoaxD | I read "The Giver" by Lois Lowry |
| 01:36.08 | CoaxD | My god, what a fucked up book |
| 01:36.10 | count | L|NUX: AWESOME! I always wanted an arcnet router! |
| 01:36.28 | L|NUX | :) |
| 01:36.29 | count | obsidian-studios: you said nothing but ethernet |
| 01:36.38 | count | obsidian-studios: if you need t-1 termination, then yeah, get a real router |
| 01:36.42 | count | or a linux box |
| 01:36.52 | obsidian-studios | count: sorry, that's done after termination, ethernet |
| 01:37.09 | *** join/#asterisk The_Ball (n=alex@static-227.35.240.220.dsl.comindico.com.au) |
| 01:37.10 | count | tell your provider you want ethernet handoff :) |
| 01:37.11 | obsidian-studios | my goal for a Linux router in place of a Cisco router is the wan interface aspect |
| 01:37.14 | count | 's what I do |
| 01:37.26 | obsidian-studios | DSL, Cable, T1, no one vendor to get good cards from? |
| 01:37.30 | *** join/#asterisk jammcq (n=jam@pcp09011044pcs.watrfd01.mi.comcast.net) |
| 01:37.33 | count | L|NUX: whats scary, is that is actively developed |
| 01:37.50 | count | 3/26/05 was last release |
| 01:38.07 | L|NUX | count : yupz |
| 01:38.24 | count | http://www.freesco.info/images/conpan.gif |
| 01:38.28 | obsidian-studios | count: how is that done? I thought wan type connections always were limited to those types of transports, DSL, Cable, T1, T3, OC etc? Not sure about Frame Relays? |
| 01:38.30 | jammcq | hey guys, I have asterisk running on my gateway. If I connect to the gateway from the inside network, and my buddy connects from his house, we can call each other, but we can't hear anything. |
| 01:38.30 | count | oh man, it's even got the uber1337 web interface |
| 01:38.35 | jammcq | BUT |
| 01:38.37 | *** join/#asterisk MicC_ (n=sum1@CPE000c419ce901-CM000a7363f92c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 01:38.51 | jammcq | if I connect to an inside asterisk server, which THEN connects to the asterisk on the gateway, we can carry on a conversation |
| 01:38.56 | count | obsidian-studios: metro ethernet :) |
| 01:39.05 | obsidian-studios | count: in the US? |
| 01:39.10 | count | obsidian-studios: my provider just provides a transciever/convertor from whatever to ethernet |
| 01:39.14 | count | yeah |
| 01:39.20 | obsidian-studios | count: pretty sure we do not have that support here? |
| 01:39.27 | count | I got T-1s, SONET, ATM for a WAN |
| 01:39.32 | count | and it all hands off as ethernet to me |
| 01:39.33 | obsidian-studios | guess I will have a decent length call into FDN on monday |
| 01:39.58 | obsidian-studios | wow, so you just plug a switch into the wan connection and be done with it? |
| 01:40.00 | kusznir | tzanger: are you here? |
| 01:40.10 | count | obsidian-studios: basically |
| 01:40.45 | count | we're about to upgrade to 100Mb/s and GigE at all our sites |
| 01:40.47 | count | no more tdm |
| 01:40.49 | count | hooray! |
| 01:40.57 | count | we still use POTs for telephone though :( |
| 01:40.57 | obsidian-studios | count: that's is definitely possible on a business line, but what about home? or soho? I love the Cisco cable router, UBR924/925, I use a 924 at my location for analog phones with * |
| 01:41.32 | count | it might be cost effective for soho/home use |
| 01:41.35 | obsidian-studios | count: I think pots is still one of the most reliable mediums no? |
| 01:41.50 | count | hah, no, the pots lines get cut or go out more than the sonet ring :) |
| 01:41.57 | count | I think we're just ina strange area though |
| 01:41.58 | count | heh |
| 01:41.59 | obsidian-studios | count: I am still considering the * on Linksys WRT54g routers |
| 01:42.09 | count | for personal use? |
| 01:42.22 | obsidian-studios | count: I mean pots vs t1 |
| 01:42.32 | count | hah |
| 01:42.45 | obsidian-studios | count: not so much personal but business use for clients from remote home offices and etc |
| 01:43.07 | count | that'd work |
| 01:43.22 | count | the wrt54g should be able to handle the load of a single call |
| 01:43.31 | count | I saw it could do like 3 connections without transcoding |
| 01:43.39 | obsidian-studios | count: can't decide if over a vpn, I should just have the phones connect directly to *, or put a WRT54g router in with *, let the phones on the soho side talk to the mini *, and the mini * would relay to the main * install connected to the business pots lines and etc |
| 01:43.59 | X-Rob | count, it'll handle a reasonable amount, but I wouldn't be doing any transcoding |
| 01:44.10 | X-Rob | should be able to handle 20-30 calls |
| 01:44.22 | X-Rob | I'd doubt it would manage more than 3-4 simultaneous transcodings tho |
| 01:44.22 | count | I would just go straight to the * box obsidian-studios. That's so less complicated :) |
| 01:44.28 | count | X-Rob: maybe that's what it was |
| 01:44.42 | obsidian-studios | ok, I knew it was less complicated, but not sure if it was as flexible or robust |
| 01:44.59 | count | you're only as robust as the weakest combination of your components |
| 01:45.00 | obsidian-studios | because doing dhcp, tftp, and etc via the vpn might be a pain |
| 01:45.10 | count | so, the more components the lower your robustness usually :) |
| 01:45.29 | count | put a wrt54g onsite to setup a vpn tunnel |
| 01:45.30 | obsidian-studios | I figured only thing going across the vpn would be native iax stuff and it would be better than doing sip or other stuff over the vpn? |
| 01:45.34 | count | and then run everything over that |
| 01:45.58 | count | depends on hwo your vpn terminates - does it do static nat or pat? |
| 01:46.06 | count | RTCP wouldn't like PAT with multiple users on the same vpn |
| 01:46.06 | X-Rob | obsidian - you're talking about the packaging, not the contents. |
| 01:46.10 | obsidian-studios | not in place yet, but most likely static |
| 01:46.20 | X-Rob | iax and sip are the box around the packet, which is ulaw,ilbc,g729 etc |
| 01:46.51 | count | ok, you confused me X-Rob |
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| 01:47.03 | count | whats that got to do with what he said? |
| 01:47.03 | obsidian-studios | X-Rob: yes but to do IAX between * boxes thats all I need. to do phone to * I need dhcp, tftp, and sip/sccp |
| 01:47.13 | X-Rob | <obsidian-studios> I figured only thing going across the vpn would be native iax stuff and it would be better than doing sip or other stuff over the vpn? |
| 01:47.29 | count | ok? |
| 01:47.29 | X-Rob | count, I'm trying to head off a mis-understanding. |
| 01:47.32 | obsidian-studios | X-Rob: that's what I am basically asking and trying to figure out |
| 01:47.39 | X-Rob | he seems to think that IAX is less CPU intensive than SIP. |
| 01:47.42 | X-Rob | there's no real difference |
| 01:47.50 | count | oh |
| 01:47.54 | obsidian-studios | X-Rob: no, it's less stuff over the vpn I am concerned with |
| 01:48.04 | X-Rob | 'stuff'as in 'data'? |
| 01:48.13 | X-Rob | you've got bandwidth limitations? |
| 01:48.15 | count | dhcp is only a couple of pakets :) |
| 01:48.24 | obsidian-studios | like doing dhcp and tftp stuff locally via mini * on the WRT54g vs doing it all via the VPN |
| 01:48.28 | X-Rob | DHCP won't work happily over a VPN. |
| 01:48.35 | X-Rob | you need to bridge, as DHCP is broadcast. |
| 01:48.44 | count | or have a dhcp relay agent |
| 01:48.50 | X-Rob | ...or have a relay agent, yeah |
| 01:48.55 | shmaltz_ | X-Rob, relay agent shoud dl |
| 01:49.29 | obsidian-studios | so just plugging phone in via vpn to connect to * via sip might be more than doing it via a local mini * |
| 01:49.39 | X-Rob | obsidian-studios - just so you know, I do exactly what you're talking about. |
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| 01:50.03 | obsidian-studios | X-Rob: is that an offer of service? |
| 01:50.04 | X-Rob | WRT56GS's (bigger flash), openwrt, openswan, asterisk if needed. |
| 01:50.17 | X-Rob | obsidian-studios - are you in Australia? |
| 01:50.25 | obsidian-studios | X-Rob: ok, well I would most likely get the biggest, baddest |
| 01:50.31 | obsidian-studios | X-Rob: nope, US, FL |
| 01:50.41 | X-Rob | Definately not coming to the US. |
| 01:50.54 | obsidian-studios | X-Rob: not here during hurricane season at least ;) |
| 01:50.56 | X-Rob | Canada maybe, but the US is crazy! |
| 01:51.08 | obsidian-studios | ophelia was just sitting next to us for a few days |
| 01:51.11 | count | what do you expect with 400K homeless :) |
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| 01:51.27 | count | ophelia is only a cat1 and they're calling for evacuation in charleston |
| 01:51.28 | count | heh |
| 01:51.42 | X-Rob | count - uh, nah. Not that. That's just sad. I'm talking 'bout your PATRIOT act and DMCA and 'lock up and throw away the key' policies. |
| 01:51.49 | count | oh |
| 01:51.50 | count | don't worry |
| 01:51.51 | obsidian-studios | count: well charleston should have balls after how bad they were hit in the late 80's |
| 01:51.55 | count | we'll come down and get you in .au |
| 01:52.18 | obsidian-studios | X-Rob: unfortunately they all exist because of good reasons world we live in I guess |
| 01:52.18 | X-Rob | quite probably |
| 01:53.03 | count | so nobody has polycom firmware |
| 01:53.09 | count | stupid ass reseller only restrictions |
| 01:53.11 | *** join/#asterisk skatris (n=KoRkUt_@81.213.162.166) |
| 01:53.19 | X-Rob | obsidian-studios - Uh. pointing at someone, saying 'You're a terrorist', and locking them up forever without needing proof.. I can't think of any good reason for that. |
| 01:53.23 | X-Rob | Anyway. |
| 01:53.32 | X-Rob | That's your country, not mine. |
| 01:53.47 | CoaxD | Hahaha. I just did a search for my old Legend of the Red Dragon IGMs out there |
| 01:53.50 | *** join/#asterisk sozo- (n=vidar@pppoecl73176.minlos.no) |
| 01:53.51 | CoaxD | there's still google hits |
| 01:53.53 | obsidian-studios | well I must say a productive night on IRC, I learned to avoid nufone, that I most likely do not need a VOIP provider, SIP with 7960's and *, and the * via vpns ;) |
| 01:54.02 | CoaxD | (Afraid. very, very afraid.) |
| 01:54.05 | sozo- | hi |
| 01:54.07 | X-Rob | obsidian-studios - question re your VPNS |
| 01:54.10 | X-Rob | why? |
| 01:54.19 | X-Rob | are you concerned about sniffing? |
| 01:54.30 | count | in this dmca world gone mad |
| 01:54.32 | obsidian-studios | X-Rob: why vpn? just security of calls and data going via wans |
| 01:54.36 | sozo- | i'm getting chan_sip.c:5874 check_auth: stale nonce received from |
| 01:54.42 | sozo- | is there any way to disable the check? |
| 01:54.58 | obsidian-studios | X-Rob: not so much govt sniffing and etc, but possibly telco stuff or unwanted recipients |
| 01:55.10 | X-Rob | fair enough - but it's a lot easier to not tunnel asterisk .. means users can take the phones and plug them into the internet anywhere and it just works. |
| 01:55.44 | obsidian-studios | granted to sniff packets via wans is not easy without some interaction with a isp, backbone or a hop the connection is going across |
| 01:56.11 | obsidian-studios | X-Rob: that's really opening the door to who can listen |
| 01:56.43 | obsidian-studios | X-Rob: I mean you need a tap for a pots, or regular phone line, just spitting packets across a public network. One is just giving up information with no effort |
| 01:57.07 | X-Rob | Just pointing out, that it's easier to _not_ tunnel it. |
| 01:57.09 | *** join/#asterisk mog_home (n=mogorman@user-24-236-84-48.knology.net) |
| 01:57.48 | obsidian-studios | X-Rob: I know it would be easier, I am all for easy, but the mission is secure, which means deterrents $, and more work for me |
| 01:58.46 | obsidian-studios | X-Rob: which is why I was thinking dealing with a vpn, static * to * via iax would be better and less effort than having the phones connect directly to a single remote * via the vpn |
| 01:59.28 | obsidian-studios | part of all this is I am doing a presentation on * this month for the local lug. Many of which have Linksys routers and are interested in * |
| 01:59.33 | X-Rob | ok.. So, sitea has phone1/2/3/4/5 and wrt56gs(a). siteb has phone5/6/7/8/9/a and wrt56gs(b) |
| 02:00.00 | X-Rob | sitec has phoneb/c/d/e/f and P4/3g with a PRI card |
| 02:00.24 | obsidian-studios | X-Rob: basically |
| 02:00.30 | X-Rob | openswan on all machines, asterisk on all machines, only allow ulaw into _all_ the asterisk boxes. |
| 02:00.43 | obsidian-studios | X-Rob: ideally |
| 02:00.50 | *** join/#asterisk Th0ranwrk (n=Thoran@richard.consistec.de) |
| 02:01.03 | X-Rob | shouldn't take you more than a day. |
| 02:01.05 | X-Rob | Easy! |
| 02:01.16 | obsidian-studios | so only thing traversing the vpn would be iax, not dhcp, tftp, and sip |
| 02:01.25 | X-Rob | why tftp? |
| 02:01.32 | obsidian-studios | cisco phones require it? |
| 02:01.34 | count | cheap cisco phones |
| 02:01.36 | count | hehe |
| 02:01.37 | X-Rob | eew |
| 02:01.45 | count | my polycoms do http/s :) |
| 02:01.48 | obsidian-studios | well the 7960's are not cheap? but? |
| 02:01.52 | X-Rob | yuo might have a problem there. You've only got 32mb of flash in the wrt's. |
| 02:01.57 | X-Rob | how big are the images? |
| 02:02.20 | obsidian-studios | all from the 7910-7960's require tftp for config, very small data it's just running all the protocols over the vpn, and the delay |
| 02:02.34 | obsidian-studios | as it is, it takes the phones a minute or two once powered up to connect and etc |
| 02:03.21 | obsidian-studios | X-Rob: you do not need full images, just the text/xml config files, only a few kb at best if that |
| 02:05.05 | X-Rob | http://openwrt.org/ |
| 02:05.08 | X-Rob | Enjoy 8) |
| 02:05.19 | count | does anyone know who run freedomphones.net ? |
| 02:05.49 | obsidian-studios | X-Rob: that's what all the local luggers are running for the most part, I am one of the local * people, so they were asking me about it. I know they want me to mention it at the * presentation |
| 02:06.21 | count | poor florida |
| 02:06.31 | count | no wonder you guys have trouble with the elections every year |
| 02:06.32 | count | :) |
| 02:06.39 | obsidian-studios | count: why? because I am doing a * presentation? |
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| 02:06.46 | count | heh hehe |
| 02:06.53 | obsidian-studios | count: hey I was in CA then, I had to come back to kick people in the butt so they could vote properly |
| 02:07.03 | count | cali CA or Canuckia CA? |
| 02:07.21 | obsidian-studios | count: but considering half the people I know in CA in business do not even vote? not sure what's worse, CA as in California |
| 02:07.52 | obsidian-studios | count: at least we all have guns here :) we just need to be able to take them in when we vote ;) |
| 02:08.14 | obsidian-studios | in the south everyone is nice, because everyone is armed ;) |
| 02:09.14 | L|NUX | can some one please take a look into my extensions.conf and tell me what i am missing |
| 02:09.25 | L|NUX | http://www.e-maili.com/asterisk/extensions.conf |
| 02:10.14 | komnieve | Hi all - so I am in the process of setting up a demo * box, I'd like to do something that shows some abilities far beyond traditional pbxs - in an enterprise environment, current ideas : user enters in an isbn number, gets the price of the book from amazon... user leaves a message and it appears on a web interface... the various guis available - any more ideas? |
| 02:10.26 | komnieve | L|nux - whats the error your getting? |
| 02:10.44 | L|NUX | komnieve : can not dial number even local extension :( |
| 02:10.47 | L|NUX | and nothing on console |
| 02:11.01 | count | are you registered? |
| 02:11.04 | L|NUX | yupz |
| 02:11.05 | komnieve | are you using a sip phone? |
| 02:11.15 | L|NUX | 1002/1002 202.5.145.14 D N 255.255.255.255 48186 OK (503 ms) |
| 02:11.16 | komnieve | so when you dial in - the call appears in the console? |
| 02:11.26 | L|NUX | nah |
| 02:11.27 | L|NUX | :( |
| 02:11.44 | L|NUX | i am using sip phone but when i dial call des not appear on console :( |
| 02:11.54 | L|NUX | i also have dundi peers |
| 02:12.05 | komnieve | do you have your sip.conf file up? |
| 02:12.12 | L|NUX | i am trying to work with dundi but messed up with extensions.conf |
| 02:12.14 | L|NUX | yupz |
| 02:12.25 | L|NUX | if i don't then it won't allow me to authenticate |
| 02:13.23 | komnieve | from the console - do you have sip debug on? |
| 02:13.49 | L|NUX | yeah |
| 02:13.51 | L|NUX | i did |
| 02:13.54 | komnieve | and when you launch is it with -vvvvvgcd ? |
| 02:14.15 | komnieve | no errors messages at all? |
| 02:14.27 | count | heh, is your phone broke? |
| 02:14.48 | L|NUX | yeah |
| 02:14.50 | L|NUX | :( |
| 02:14.55 | L|NUX | nah man |
| 02:14.59 | L|NUX | i am using softphone |
| 02:14.59 | L|NUX | :D |
| 02:15.36 | obsidian-studios | L|NUX: which one? I have not been able to register with some |
| 02:15.45 | L|NUX | x-pro |
| 02:15.48 | L|NUX | x-lite |
| 02:15.49 | L|NUX | eyebeam |
| 02:15.50 | komnieve | so with sip debug on, try to call in - and throw up your sip.conf somewhere |
| 02:16.00 | L|NUX | okies |
| 02:16.07 | obsidian-studios | specifically linphone, and sip-communicator, but I was able to with KPhone |
| 02:16.11 | L|NUX | http://www.e-maili.com/asterisk/sip.conf |
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| 02:16.57 | L|NUX | obsidian-studios : i registered and worked with sip-communicator but not that much good |
| 02:16.58 | L|NUX | :( |
| 02:17.36 | obsidian-studios | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:17.58 | L|NUX | hmm |
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| 02:19.27 | L|NUX | http://pastebin.ca/22615 |
| 02:19.31 | L|NUX | this is when i dial out |
| 02:20.19 | L|NUX | or in my extensions |
| 02:20.43 | tamp4x | g fuckiung damnit |
| 02:20.48 | tamp4x | kernel panic again |
| 02:20.52 | file | L|NUX: that pastebin you did is perfectly normal, it's Asterisk asking the device for it's authentication credentials |
| 02:21.12 | tamp4x | now im gomna smash these te410p cards with a sledge hammer for 4 hours straight |
| 02:21.15 | L|NUX | file : so |
| 02:21.25 | L|NUX | file : 1002/1002 202.5.145.14 D N 255.255.255.255 48186 OK (311 ms) |
| 02:21.30 | L|NUX | see i am connected |
| 02:21.30 | obsidian-studios | tamp4x: ? custom kernel woes? |
| 02:21.34 | file | that's registration |
| 02:21.36 | X-Rob | tamp4x - wtf. You shouldn't be panicing. |
| 02:21.39 | file | registration does not effect calls |
| 02:21.52 | file | registration is your device's way of saying, "hey asterisk - here I am if you need to call me" |
| 02:22.06 | tamp4x | i have to drive 5hours to swap server with new te410p cards |
| 02:22.09 | tamp4x | tomrrow |
| 02:22.25 | hardwire | man I hate your nick. |
| 02:22.26 | hardwire | heh |
| 02:22.38 | file | I wish this would install faster |
| 02:22.43 | L|NUX | hmm |
| 02:22.52 | L|NUX | i installed lasted cvs |
| 02:22.57 | obsidian-studios | tamp4x: a production system had a kernel panic? |
| 02:23.07 | file | L|NUX: you haven't given enough sip debug |
| 02:23.19 | L|NUX | file : what you need |
| 02:23.20 | L|NUX | ? |
| 02:23.21 | file | L|NUX: what you pasted above is perfectly normal - it's up to your device to send the call again with your username/password |
| 02:23.22 | L|NUX | come in pvt |
| 02:23.34 | file | I don't do private help unless you want to pay $200/hour |
| 02:23.42 | L|NUX | aaahhhhh |
| 02:23.43 | L|NUX | :$ |
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| 02:27.20 | tamp4x | yes obsidian |
| 02:27.31 | tamp4x | a kernel panic 4 times a day for the past week |
| 02:27.44 | obsidian-studios | tamp4x: new kernel or something change recently? |
| 02:28.13 | tamp4x | nope |
| 02:28.19 | tamp4x | same set up on 2 other machines |
| 02:28.58 | ome | just instaled * from beta- conf problem... IAX2 static users(iax.conf) not appearing with 'iax2 show users'.. but sip, users are present -help/ideas? |
| 02:29.10 | obsidian-studios | tamp4x: what distro? custom kernels or default ones? |
| 02:29.12 | hardwire | is it just me.. or did file just make himself out as a hooker? |
| 02:29.20 | obsidian-studios | tamp4x: just problems on the one, or on all machines? |
| 02:29.22 | file | hardwire: you'd like that wouldn't you! |
| 02:29.28 | hardwire | spank me harder |
| 02:29.29 | MrMAGO | anyone using portaone's client for asterisk? |
| 02:29.34 | X-Rob | show us yer bits, file |
| 02:29.34 | hardwire | anyways |
| 02:29.39 | hardwire | I should cook my woman some food |
| 02:29.48 | file | my bits and bytes are private! |
| 02:29.48 | tamp4x | one |
| 02:29.48 | hardwire | or she will beat me |
| 02:29.49 | file | I'll never show you my class! |
| 02:29.57 | X-Rob | classless! |
| 02:29.58 | obsidian-studios | hardwire: man times have changed used to be the other way around :) |
| 02:30.03 | file | (C++ reference people) |
| 02:30.07 | hardwire | obsidian-studios: yeh |
| 02:30.10 | hardwire | the beating is a recent thing |
| 02:30.16 | hardwire | but I really do, do the cooking |
| 02:30.22 | file | blasphemy |
| 02:30.23 | tamp4x | its on a dell poweredge 2850 |
| 02:30.25 | hardwire | cause she really realyl sucks at it |
| 02:30.26 | file | you - cool? |
| 02:30.28 | file | er cook |
| 02:30.30 | distortio | MrMago: why spend 25-35k on a client for asterisk |
| 02:30.33 | obsidian-studios | hardwire: to bad you can report the beatings :) they would laugh at you. if you touch her, life |
| 02:30.34 | hardwire | file: yeh |
| 02:30.38 | hardwire | tonight is pesto cavatapi |
| 02:30.39 | file | scary |
| 02:30.42 | tamp4x | we even edited grub.conf to boot into single processor mode and still shit |
| 02:30.47 | tamp4x | e1000 disabled |
| 02:30.49 | file | just get a pizza, far easier |
| 02:30.50 | hardwire | oh well |
| 02:30.51 | tamp4x | everything |
| 02:30.54 | hardwire | file: oh yeh |
| 02:30.55 | MrMAGO | i want the client, which is free, not the server |
| 02:30.55 | hardwire | Uncle Joes |
| 02:30.56 | tamp4x | and still monkey ass crap |
| 02:30.58 | hardwire | right down the street |
| 02:31.01 | hardwire | amazing gourmet pizzas |
| 02:31.04 | hardwire | straight from the checkbook |
| 02:31.07 | X-Rob | tamp4x - sounds like bad RAM or CPU |
| 02:31.08 | file | I could go for a cheese pizza |
| 02:31.11 | MrMAGO | already have a server |
| 02:31.12 | hardwire | I can't afford pizza at all |
| 02:31.14 | hardwire | :( |
| 02:31.15 | hardwire | oh well |
| 02:31.18 | hardwire | hasta |
| 02:31.19 | obsidian-studios | tamp4x: what distro, where is the kernel panicing? anything on console or in logs? |
| 02:31.21 | distortio | ah |
| 02:31.43 | *** join/#asterisk [1]JohnJacob (n=JohnJaco@pcp0011543623pcs.mainf01.in.comcast.net) |
| 02:31.57 | sivana | how do I compile ztdummy? |
| 02:32.00 | obsidian-studios | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:32.16 | count | sivana 'make' |
| 02:32.18 | count | :) |
| 02:32.31 | tamp4x | nothing foudn in logs, asterisk was set to core dump |
| 02:32.44 | count | sivana: http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk+timer+ztdummy |
| 02:32.53 | sivana | count: ty |
| 02:33.04 | count | tamp4x: asterisk won't dump if you are having linux kernel panic trouble |
| 02:33.06 | obsidian-studios | tamp4x: you sure it's * causing the kernel panic or the digium card? as opposed to something else failing in the system? |
| 02:33.21 | tamp4x | the digium cards |
| 02:33.23 | count | pull the card and see what happens :) |
| 02:33.36 | tamp4x | because we have 2 more machiens with exact same set up |
| 02:33.37 | sivana | ack.. I think USB is disable |
| 02:33.55 | count | sivana: you're on 2.4? |
| 02:34.08 | obsidian-studios | tamp4x: many things can fail and cause a kernel panic, bad memory or etc? |
| 02:34.14 | sivana | ya |
| 02:34.22 | count | oh, sorry to hear that :) |
| 02:34.32 | obsidian-studios | tamp4x: of course swapping or pulling digium card should let you know |
| 02:34.45 | tamp4x | im just gonan install a new server with new cards |
| 02:37.03 | count | I'll take the 2850 |
| 02:37.04 | count | :) |
| 02:37.39 | sivana | count: needs to be uncommented |
| 02:37.50 | count | ? |
| 02:37.58 | sivana | ztdummy |
| 02:38.03 | sivana | in the zaptel Makefile |
| 02:38.05 | count | uncommented from what |
| 02:38.05 | count | oh |
| 02:38.07 | count | yeah |
| 02:38.27 | count | that's um, step 3 in the instructions on the wiki |
| 02:38.35 | MrMAGO | how does one install Asterisk::AGI?? |
| 02:38.36 | *** join/#asterisk pattieja (n=pattieja@adsl-69-153-174-41.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net) |
| 02:38.51 | pattieja | hello |
| 02:39.02 | pattieja | I just setup my first IAXy |
| 02:39.45 | pattieja | I had to upgrade from Asterisk 0.7.2 to 1.0.7 (Debian sarge), but after that it worked fine |
| 02:40.06 | *** join/#asterisk redon (n=DeLi_CoC@81.213.240.104) |
| 02:40.11 | pattieja | only issue is that every time I hang up a call from the IAXy, Asterisk dies with a segmentation fault |
| 02:40.22 | count | I thought it worked fine? :) |
| 02:40.58 | pattieja | I set the automatic restart in the asterisk config file, so at least it comes back after a few seconds |
| 02:41.18 | pattieja | count, the sound from the device is great! |
| 02:41.39 | pattieja | I'm fairly pleased that I only have this issue for my first attempt |
| 02:41.51 | pattieja | I may need to get the latest CVS and update the installed version |
| 02:42.03 | pattieja | but not tonight |
| 02:42.26 | *** join/#asterisk subay32m (n=YaGMuRLa@85.98.67.72) |
| 02:42.31 | pattieja | I was wondering if anyone else in here (currently) has worked with an S101I (IAXy II)? |
| 02:42.40 | *** join/#asterisk roulduke_ (i=jll99mke@p508D1D7B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 02:43.08 | pattieja | it doesn't appear that they will take a fully qualified domain name as the "server=" parameter |
| 02:43.45 | pattieja | I was hoping they would since I have multiple Asterisk servers setup using dynamic IP addresses |
| 02:44.01 | file | nope. |
| 02:44.11 | pattieja | I use dynamic DNS (no-ip.com) to map the FQDN on the Internet |
| 02:44.15 | pattieja | :( |
| 02:44.20 | pattieja | I was afraid of that |
| 02:45.22 | *** join/#asterisk _Soul_ (n=Soul@87-196-25-42.net.novis.pt) |
| 02:45.25 | pattieja | that puts a kink in my plans |
| 02:46.06 | MrMAGO | how does one install Asterisk::AGI? |
| 02:46.13 | Hmmhesays | she was very pretty |
| 02:46.13 | _Soul_ | greetings. just messing with asterisk, i think im gonna lay low around here, and learn a bit |
| 02:46.41 | *** join/#asterisk aaronz (n=aaronz@orangutan.media.mit.edu) |
| 02:47.14 | Hmmhesays | so I took her for a motorcycle ride |
| 02:47.17 | Hmmhesays | she enjoyed it |
| 02:47.35 | Hmmhesays | I speak the truth |
| 02:47.36 | file | one thing lead to another and she took a ride on you? |
| 02:47.40 | *** join/#asterisk Sedorox (n=Brandon@smartserv/cna/Sedorox) |
| 02:47.43 | tamp4x | no ass after the ride? you = fail |
| 02:47.49 | Hmmhesays | file: no, she had to get to work |
| 02:47.56 | file | awww :( |
| 02:48.00 | Hmmhesays | however, tonight she is going to call me |
| 02:48.02 | obsidian-studios | Hmmhesays: on some one else ? |
| 02:48.16 | Hmmhesays | obsidian-studios: <shrug> who knows |
| 02:48.17 | pattieja | good night |
| 02:48.28 | Hmmhesays | i have the problem where I dont' really give a shit about much |
| 02:48.31 | obsidian-studios | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:48.32 | Hmmhesays | so if she is... whatever |
| 02:48.36 | *** join/#asterisk Defraz_ (n=t0tal@corp.ibccom.net) |
| 02:48.38 | aaronz | i would like to setup an asterisk server that gives me voicemail access when i call from a specific number, but forwards to another sip number if avail or goes to voicemail otherwise..... how difficult is this to setup? |
| 02:48.49 | obsidian-studios | Hmmhesays: if it's another girl, you might want to join |
| 02:48.57 | Hmmhesays | spiked hair: check, smell good: check |
| 02:48.59 | obsidian-studios | or guy, if you are into that :) |
| 02:49.03 | Hmmhesays | deoderant: check |
| 02:49.10 | Hmmhesays | phone: check |
| 02:49.14 | aaronz | i.e. my cell phone diverts to my gizmo number if unavail, but i need a way to check the messages from my cell phone |
| 02:49.15 | Hmmhesays | wallet: check |
| 02:49.24 | Hmmhesays | all systems go, ttffn |
| 02:49.34 | *** part/#asterisk pattieja (n=pattieja@adsl-69-153-174-41.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net) |
| 02:49.38 | aaronz | this would effectively allow me to use voip whenever im at home or work, but cellphone otherwise |
| 02:49.47 | tamp4x | easy cheesy aaronz |
| 02:49.48 | ome | sorted |
| 02:49.50 | *** join/#asterisk pbd (n=plancomm@c-67-163-20-134.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 02:49.53 | obsidian-studios | Hmmhesays: prophylactic, check ;) |
| 02:50.00 | *** part/#asterisk ome (n=ome_@rafal.plus.com) |
| 02:50.15 | aaronz | tamp4x: what route should i take for this configuration? are there tutorials on exactly this, or a particular gui i should use? |
| 02:50.18 | Hmmhesays | ohh good one |
| 02:50.26 | aaronz | ive never setup asterick before and it seems quite complicated |
| 02:50.29 | tamp4x | gui? they have a gui for asterisk |
| 02:50.32 | tamp4x | ?? |
| 02:50.45 | obsidian-studios | Hmmhesays: these days you might want to take multiple forms with you and some bleach :) |
| 02:51.00 | aaronz | tamp4x: thats why i was saying tutorial for editing the config files |
| 02:51.12 | *** join/#asterisk ^ (n=DeNiZ__G@81.215.185.236) |
| 02:51.23 | syle2 | i wouldn;t suggest using a gui unless you don;t know unix at all |
| 02:51.25 | pbd | voip-info.org: best tutorial around. |
| 02:51.34 | obsidian-studios | tamp4x: I thought there was a couple gui's for *? or * management programs? |
| 02:51.35 | tamp4x | i agree with phd |
| 02:51.52 | pbd | * is just a little bit too complex for a simple tutorial.. ok, a LOT too complex. |
| 02:51.55 | obsidian-studios | anything other than manuals scares me |
| 02:52.04 | tamp4x | i dunno, i know i have to program a gui for soem dummies who use my systems |
| 02:52.09 | pbd | A gui would hold your hand.. but without underlying knowledge, might make your job *worse*. |
| 02:52.13 | obsidian-studios | by manuals, I mean manually configuring * |
| 02:53.08 | aaronz | yah but if you want a simple setup at home... this is wayy too complex for the avg person |
| 02:53.08 | pbd | AMP seems pretty nice- but I'm only just beginning to look at it after a couple years hard slogging through the .confs. :) |
| 02:53.19 | obsidian-studios | someone on our lug mentioned this the other day? http://asterisk-configuration.xorcom.com/ |
| 02:53.36 | aaronz | i would imagine a setup like mine would be the most common requested setup for avg ppl to use VoIP when possible, but cell phone otherwise |
| 02:53.37 | pbd | aaronz: Asterisk isn't a home answering machine- it's not designed for your application.. it's designed to replace key systems and small PBXs. |
| 02:53.49 | aaronz | pbd; but cant it be used for this purpose? |
| 02:53.52 | obsidian-studios | but I guess they have a gui to get info to them, and they send you back * config files and instructions? |
| 02:54.18 | aaronz | maybe i should just code this myself and avoid astrisk with existing SIP libraries? |
| 02:54.21 | obsidian-studios | aaronz: most likely but will require time, effort and possibly some $ |
| 02:54.38 | pbd | So.. you're essentially getting a caddilac when you're asking for a bicycle.. then wondering why the manual is 300 pages and all you really needed was to know how to change the tires. |
| 02:54.48 | obsidian-studios | aaronz: it can be small or large, all up to you, but it's design is for large |
| 02:55.08 | obsidian-studios | pbd: nice analogy |
| 02:55.09 | aaronz | i understand... but it seems there would be enough demand for simple setups that it can be facilitated |
| 02:55.20 | obsidian-studios | aaronz: *@home ;) |
| 02:55.36 | pbd | aaronz: Can it? sure. but- it's not simple. I've heard good things about Asterisk@Home- that's a more streamlined config for what you might be looking to do.. |
| 02:55.46 | aaronz | also seems to require formating my entire disk |
| 02:55.48 | aaronz | ugh |
| 02:55.55 | pbd | but.. I've not seen any two people that have the same needs. |
| 02:56.01 | aaronz | i can imagine |
| 02:56.03 | obsidian-studios | pbd: I do not like * @ home, but it was also mentioned in our lug |
| 02:56.09 | aaronz | however, what im talking about |
| 02:56.24 | aaronz | is essentially the method that the avg person can switch towards voip |
| 02:56.29 | obsidian-studios | aaronz: hang in there learn, and take your time, it will come, but with some effort because * is deep |
| 02:56.38 | aaronz | before WiMax blankets our cities and makes cell phones worthless |
| 02:56.42 | pbd | aaronz: What does.. AAH? Linux doesn't require a reformatting of your drive.. nor does Asterisk.. but it has to be running to work. :) |
| 02:56.46 | obsidian-studios | aaronz: it's like the avg windows person switching to Unix |
| 02:56.50 | X-Rob | obsidian-studios - why don't you like A@H? |
| 02:57.02 | aaronz | pbd: *@home seemed to have just an iso install |
| 02:57.07 | aaronz | and its manual said it would erase your hd |
| 02:57.12 | aaronz | like its a whole distro |
| 02:57.14 | obsidian-studios | X-Rob: seemed to do somethings in a non-standard way. also most already have linux installed, and just want *, with a simple base * config |
| 02:57.18 | aaronz | rather than additional software |
| 02:57.24 | pbd | obsidian: I haven't played much with AAH, but I've read the glossies- I think it's probably worthwhile for some. I'd never use it as a learning aide, though. |
| 02:57.27 | _Soul_ | i heard someone installed wimax at new orleans, is it true ? |
| 02:57.33 | X-Rob | aaronz - it is. It's CentOS 3.4 with Asterisk, AMP, and all the prerequisites |
| 02:57.44 | obsidian-studios | X-Rob: if it was minimal config for * @ home users like aaronz is trying to do, then I would think differently |
| 02:57.47 | shido6 | what is format_au.so ? |
| 02:58.00 | X-Rob | obsidian-studios - how 'non-standard'? The only think that gives me shit is the way they originally said to set up httpd (eg, run httpd as asterisk) |
| 02:58.04 | shido6 | ~format_au.so |
| 02:58.22 | X-Rob | obsidian-studios - http://aussievoip.com.au/ |
| 02:58.28 | obsidian-studios | X-Rob: a few * config files seemed to have different names? |
| 02:58.37 | *** join/#asterisk rickxu (n=rickxu@222.94.3.84) |
| 02:58.39 | X-Rob | step-by-step Asterisk and AMP installation for most major distros |
| 02:59.13 | obsidian-studios | X-Rob: not trying to bash it, *@home is not bad, I just did not like it isntalling Linux for me, or * for that matter. I think most can handle both those aspects. It's the end config people need help with, call plans, extensions, etc |
| 02:59.46 | aaronz | exactly |
| 02:59.53 | obsidian-studios | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:00.14 | X-Rob | which is what AMP is |
| 03:00.17 | obsidian-studios | I guess a free * repository of example config setups would help most |
| 03:00.21 | X-Rob | (which is the webby interface that A@H users) |
| 03:00.34 | obsidian-studios | X-Rob: not familiar with amp, heard of it, but will need to get more familiar for my presentation |
| 03:00.58 | obsidian-studios | man I have to say, * has a great marketing cdrom, not sure why they do not put the flash demo and etc on their web site |
| 03:01.06 | X-Rob | AMP is the user interface that A@H uses |
| 03:01.13 | obsidian-studios | I meant digium has a great marketing cdrom for * |
| 03:01.29 | X-Rob | if you've use A@H you've used and old version of AMP |
| 03:01.42 | obsidian-studios | X-Rob: oh, I did not know AMP was bound to A@h |
| 03:01.48 | X-Rob | No |
| 03:01.50 | X-Rob | other way round |
| 03:01.52 | X-Rob | A@H uses AMP |
| 03:01.53 | obsidian-studios | I thought one could use AMP with * |
| 03:01.55 | obsidian-studios | oh |
| 03:02.10 | obsidian-studios | so it's the same as one using AMP with * after the install of linux and * |
| 03:02.51 | X-Rob | AMP is a webby configuration tool for asterisk. It runs on Linux and requires a couple of perl modules, mysql, php and obviousy asterisk |
| 03:02.58 | X-Rob | (brief overview) |
| 03:03.45 | obsidian-studios | X-Rob: ah, that's why I have not messed with it, most my * installs are on dedicated machines, where the web server is on it's own dedicated machine. Also I am not a fan of mysql, I prefer firebird, and when I have to postgresql. I have to look into adding firebird support to * |
| 03:03.49 | *** part/#asterisk jammcq (n=jam@pcp09011044pcs.watrfd01.mi.comcast.net) |
| 03:03.59 | pbd | Perhaps someone here can answer me one thing about AMP- it's too much to ask.. but can it import an existing dialplan and AMPify it? |
| 03:04.15 | X-Rob | pbd - no. And it's highly unlikely it ever will |
| 03:04.49 | pbd | Rob: It doesn't surprise me- the conf files are a bit too complex- but it was a hope. :) |
| 03:04.52 | X-Rob | but, 90% of the stuff you want to do with asterisk _can_ be done with AMP. |
| 03:04.58 | *** join/#asterisk PaNiC[ (n=CIKITA_M@81.215.185.236) |
| 03:05.09 | *** join/#asterisk Gronker__ (n=Gronker2@adsl-220-90-114.ags.bellsouth.net) |
| 03:05.20 | *** part/#asterisk Gronker__ (n=Gronker2@adsl-220-90-114.ags.bellsouth.net) |
| 03:05.31 | pbd | X-Rob: For me and my company.. more like 60%. But, it makes a nice maintenance tool for simpler installs. |
| 03:06.18 | *** join/#asterisk mog_home (n=mogorman@user-24-236-84-48.knology.net) |
| 03:06.36 | pbd | I've got to give it a thorough review to see if I can hit the complexity I'm going after (namely, highly customized for each of my customers) with AMP.. from the demo site, I already see it doesn't have inbuilt support for H.323 trunks, which is a problem. |
| 03:06.59 | pbd | Not that I mind hacking it in.. |
| 03:07.37 | X-Rob | h323 gives you cancer. |
| 03:07.53 | X-Rob | you can use custom trunks and set them up as h323, but really it's not for you |
| 03:08.05 | X-Rob | it's for people who don't know about dialplans and want an easy way to add and remove extensions |
| 03:08.18 | pbd | H.323 just makes my hair grey, not fall out. Unfortunately, there are situations (integration work, mostly- a specialty of mine), where h.323 is a must. |
| 03:10.14 | *** join/#asterisk jdiskywlkr (n=kvirc@68.0.90.1) |
| 03:11.04 | pbd | Someday, I want to take a tool like AMP, or write my own, and have it support custom features that could be bundled and added as services, distributed via XML or similar, and sold as upgrades to the PBX functionality.. like most key systems have (only for less money and with more flexibility) |
| 03:11.55 | obsidian-studios | pbd: I would like a stand alone tool to generate the config files or manage them. Remotely via a wire protocol or something would be ideal |
| 03:12.36 | pbd | AMP could be used in that way.. since it's a web interface, your wire protocol is HTTP. |
| 03:12.45 | obsidian-studios | pbd: I have been looking for a gtk/gnome project, maybe a basic * config gui, but I am a novice * user, so I would need major help on the features, or just clone amp :) |
| 03:13.06 | obsidian-studios | pbd: but requires a web server, I do not want a web server on my * servers ? |
| 03:13.28 | pbd | I started in on creating the XML parser last year, looked at AMPs basic feature set, and stopped- wasn't worth the time to redevelop it. |
| 03:13.30 | obsidian-studios | pbd: only things I run with * are things that pertain to * or things like ssh, ntp, etc |
| 03:13.57 | X-Rob | obsidian-studios - well, you just go off and recreate the wheel. |
| 03:14.10 | X-Rob | while everyone else is using apache and xml-rpc |
| 03:14.20 | obsidian-studios | X-Rob: it's not recreating, it's providing something different and an alternative |
| 03:14.34 | pbd | obsidian- the web server won't kill Asterisk- I find it a necessary service. For instance, a great many SIP hardphones have built in web browsers (XML browsers, really), when you get to the high end phones.. and the functionality is limitless when you combine it with Asterisk. |
| 03:15.10 | obsidian-studios | pbd: it just goes against how I lay out networks. It gives me another version of apache to upgrade, maintain, secure etc |
| 03:15.18 | pbd | I've got some very handy apps written for the 7960.. a directory app, for example, that also provides click-to-dial when accessed via a web browser. |
| 03:15.55 | *** join/#asterisk SwK (n=SwK@12-219-144-126.client.mchsi.com) |
| 03:16.03 | pbd | obsidian: So use the bare minimum apache, and secure it once. you're already doing ssh and ntp- they've got similar problems. |
| 03:16.07 | *** join/#asterisk hanchi (n=telliott@68.112.44.203) |
| 03:16.17 | X-Rob | obsidian-studios - you're being deliberatly negative. If you have a 'network', you already have an update repository. |
| 03:16.23 | pbd | The real power of VoIP is not the dialtone.. it's the applications. |
| 03:16.25 | obsidian-studios | pbd: also I can't use amp without mysql right, so now I also have to install configure, secure, and deal with that as well no? |
| 03:16.44 | obsidian-studios | X-Rob: yes, but that's not what I am talking about, it's the physical aspects of upgrading |
| 03:16.55 | X-Rob | ...and if you don't, now's a good time to set one up. The time you spend building it will repay itself hunderd-fold when you're rolling out application updates |
| 03:17.00 | obsidian-studios | X-Rob: I run gentoo so I upgrade allot and use etc-update allot for config files and etc |
| 03:17.12 | pbd | I can't speak to the needs of AMP. |
| 03:17.18 | X-Rob | gentoo. bleh. |
| 03:17.20 | obsidian-studios | X-Rob: most networks only have a single instance of apache on the web server |
| 03:17.30 | X-Rob | obsidian-studios - what? |
| 03:17.37 | pbd | 'most networks'? |
| 03:17.49 | X-Rob | That doesn't make sence. |
| 03:17.57 | obsidian-studios | X-Rob: yes sure say that when you want a newer version of a program, or there is a security vulnerability, or you want programs compiled with only the features you want and etc |
| 03:18.03 | X-Rob | ..single threaded apache? (guessing) |
| 03:18.09 | obsidian-studios | pbd: most of the networks I admin |
| 03:18.25 | obsidian-studios | pbd: dedicated servers running dedicated services, not single servers running allot of services |
| 03:18.39 | X-Rob | or are you saying that you only run a httpd on your www.foo? |
| 03:18.42 | obsidian-studios | so there is a machine running apache, *, mail, and other services |
| 03:18.54 | X-Rob | boy oh boy. Have I got bad news for you. |
| 03:19.05 | X-Rob | You know how lots of things have ethernet interfaces on them? |
| 03:19.09 | obsidian-studios | X-Rob: yes, I put services on different machines, and share the data via nas/nfs |
| 03:19.12 | pbd | Obsidian: Erm.. that's a pretty closed network. I don't advocate having all services on one box- but some things are needed to integrate and provide more than basic services. |
| 03:19.15 | X-Rob | Most of those things have a web server on them. |
| 03:19.30 | X-Rob | Have fun disabling the webserver on your hp jetdirect cards |
| 03:19.43 | *** join/#asterisk websae (i=websae@207-118-137-201.dyn.centurytel.net) |
| 03:19.45 | X-Rob | being that there's no other way to configure 'em, you're outta luck there. |
| 03:19.46 | obsidian-studios | X-Rob: qmail does not require a web server, tomcat has it's own. no need for apache on my dns servers, etc |
| 03:19.52 | pbd | If all you're doing is providing dial tone, then you're fine.. but when you get to the concept of providing business communcations tools.. your network becomes 'blurry'. |
| 03:20.03 | websae | anyon use the SIPURA 841...what does it mean when the line indicators are yellow, anyone know, thanks!? |
| 03:20.04 | X-Rob | how about any SIP or IAX phones you have? They all have web servers |
| 03:20.17 | nick125 | hey, anyone here know a way to increase the volume of a wav on command line? |
| 03:20.20 | obsidian-studios | X-Rob: not that I have to maintain and upgrade |
| 03:20.26 | X-Rob | Yes you do. |
| 03:20.32 | pbd | nick: Look at the SOX documentation. |
| 03:20.36 | obsidian-studios | if there is an exploit tomorrow for apache, I now have two machines to worry about instead of one |
| 03:20.50 | nick125 | pbd: i tried using vol and it messed up the file |
| 03:20.55 | nick125 | (vol in sox) |
| 03:20.56 | X-Rob | ..if there's an exploit for the PA1688 phones, you have a hundred of them to worry about. |
| 03:21.01 | obsidian-studios | for firewalls I now how to open up more ports to more machines |
| 03:21.13 | pbd | nick: Then I'd suggest more quality time with the documentation. :) |
| 03:21.15 | X-Rob | blah blah. As I said. You're being deliberately negative. |
| 03:21.17 | websae | hey nick125 |
| 03:21.18 | websae | how are you doing? |
| 03:21.21 | nick125 | whats a way to increase the volume about 2x |
| 03:21.29 | nick125 | websae: fine, you? |
| 03:21.31 | X-Rob | My care factor is zero. |
| 03:21.32 | obsidian-studios | X-Rob: true on the phones, but it's not about negativity, it's about design |
| 03:21.50 | X-Rob | And you shoudl design it _right_ |
| 03:21.51 | websae | doing well nick125...are you in any other irc servers where i can private msg you, still having issues with freenode |
| 03:22.03 | obsidian-studios | X-Rob: on the phones there is no choice |
| 03:22.16 | X-Rob | Yes there is. |
| 03:22.20 | obsidian-studios | X-Rob: if you are saying distributed services on distributed machines is not a good design then? |
| 03:22.28 | obsidian-studios | X-Rob: you a mainframe person? |
| 03:22.31 | X-Rob | You could firewall the phones, and disable access to port 80, and do all the configuration through the keypad |
| 03:22.37 | X-Rob | it's insanely annoying, but you can do it. |
| 03:22.50 | obsidian-studios | but I have two machines running apache |
| 03:22.54 | pbd | obsidian: Unfortunately, managing networks is not something you can do with limited time- despite what some might think. Upgrades are a fact of life, if you need to have complicated services. |
| 03:22.58 | X-Rob | I worked for Ahmdal for a while, but as an open-systems consultant. Teaching them about unix and stuff |
| 03:23.03 | glm2k | nick125: sox -V -v amp file.wav ampplifiedfile.wav where AMP is the amplitude or volume |
| 03:23.14 | obsidian-studios | pbd: I know, I am not looking to create more work |
| 03:23.26 | X-Rob | and that's your problem |
| 03:23.34 | obsidian-studios | pbd: so web based guis could save me some time, but they will also create more work for me and introduce possible problems |
| 03:23.34 | X-Rob | you _are_ creating more work by not doing it properly the first time |
| 03:23.43 | X-Rob | Oh |
| 03:23.44 | nick125 | glm2k: what would i put for the amp? |
| 03:24.02 | X-Rob | *kick* hurry up you piece of shit computer |
| 03:24.02 | obsidian-studios | X-Rob: ? at least this way loosing one machine does not take down all networks |
| 03:24.03 | nick125 | would 2.0 work there? |
| 03:24.04 | glm2k | nick125: gimme a sec... |
| 03:24.19 | X-Rob | obsidian-studios really? Turn off your firewall. |
| 03:24.22 | obsidian-studios | X-Rob: also is part of a foundation for redundant dedicated servers and services, then clustering |
| 03:24.36 | pbd | obsidian: It's not creating more work- it's what's needed. Think of it this way- yes, you have two servers to maintain.. but I'd rather do so one at a time, in small bites, and have the upgrade be broken- than have one monolithic web server that craps out completely and takes down my business when my upgrade goes south. |
| 03:24.40 | obsidian-studios | X-Rob: not sure how that's practical |
| 03:24.53 | X-Rob | one machine == take down all networks. |
| 03:25.21 | obsidian-studios | thus me using many machines, and single services on each. worse case I loose a service for a period of time |
| 03:25.38 | pbd | Redundancy and clustering doesn't enter the picture here, obsidian.. because you can't really upgrade part of a cluster and expect it to work properly- you've got to do it all. |
| 03:25.59 | pbd | obsidian: but a 'service' is a directory on a web server- not the web server itself. |
| 03:26.01 | obsidian-studios | really with *, even for active clients, I have to deal with it once or twice a month if that. for some a long time in between me having to configure things |
| 03:26.02 | X-Rob | pbd - give up. He's not going to listen, and doesn't want to learn. |
| 03:26.16 | X-Rob | he's just sitting there saying 'I'm right' and that's it. |
| 03:26.28 | obsidian-studios | seems like allot of effort to install AMP and it's dependencies for once and a while config changes? |
| 03:26.42 | pbd | Your approach only works in the small case, things like ntp and, etc.. that actually don't like to cluster well to begin with. |
| 03:27.00 | hanchi | in extensions.conf i have "exten => _9x.,1,Dial,Zap/3/${EXTEN}, and i get an outside dial tone, and then a ring followed by the you must first dial a 1 and the area code to dial this number, I think it is dialing the 9 in front of the number, how do I strip off the 9 for the outside line?? |
| 03:27.07 | obsidian-studios | pbd: clustering would be done once there are redundant clusters for the services, so I would take down one cluster at a time yes, but the other would be dealing in the mean time till I bring the one back on ,and deal with the other |
| 03:27.10 | pbd | X-rob: Silicon personality, or someone writing a term paper, perhaps. ;-) |
| 03:27.14 | glm2k | nick125: try 2.0 |
| 03:27.27 | glm2k | nick125: iirc, it's a multiplier |
| 03:27.30 | pbd | obsidian: then you still have the problem of upgrades- no savings. |
| 03:27.31 | obsidian-studios | pbd: ntp is not something I would really need to cluster, I do not run dedicated ntp servers at least not yet |
| 03:27.35 | X-Rob | hanchi - it is. |
| 03:27.42 | sozo- | hanchi: ${EXTEN:1} |
| 03:27.45 | X-Rob | you want to use ${EXTEN:1} |
| 03:27.57 | hanchi | thanks |
| 03:27.58 | X-Rob | snap, sozo- 8) |
| 03:28.04 | obsidian-studios | pbd: my point is in a given network I only want 2 apache servers, primary and backup, not apache on servers just so I can maintain aspects of the server or programs it's running |
| 03:28.27 | X-Rob | obsidian-studios - well, that's fine. |
| 03:28.38 | X-Rob | you spend all your time screwing around with linking stuff backwards and forwards |
| 03:28.42 | pbd | obsidian: then you've made your network monolithic, and put it in jeopardy. Not to mention limited your service offerings. |
| 03:28.43 | X-Rob | the rest of the world will do it the normal way. |
| 03:28.57 | obsidian-studios | amp is great but seems to be more effort for once and a while configs or changes? |
| 03:29.04 | X-Rob | we're not talking about AMP |
| 03:29.05 | X-Rob | you are |
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| 03:29.31 | X-Rob | I already said ages ago that AMP is not for you. |
| 03:29.35 | obsidian-studios | pbd: monolithic? distributed services and shared data among machines is not monolithic |
| 03:29.45 | X-Rob | but, it's not distributed |
| 03:29.50 | X-Rob | you said you've got one apache server |
| 03:29.54 | pbd | You're right, obsidian- having more than one web services server, running a separate instance of the core OS (which, to a service point of view, is apache, not linux) does equate to more work.. but each service will have it's own needs, and they may not combine well. |
| 03:29.57 | obsidian-studios | X-Rob: my point was that if I made a tool for * it would be to fill a void that amp is not filling |
| 03:30.04 | X-Rob | so if you've got a webby interface to your oracle stuff, it's got to go across the wire |
| 03:30.21 | ZX81 | hi all |
| 03:30.27 | obsidian-studios | pbd: which is why I do not put many services on a given machine, only the core service for that machine |
| 03:30.36 | pbd | obsidian: I think Rob's point is, while there may be voids in AMP, you've picked the wrong one- you just need to open your mind a little to it. |
| 03:30.41 | ZX81 | is there a way to list just realitime iax2 peers and not ones defined in configs? |
| 03:30.45 | obsidian-studios | pbd: with regard to *, I do not see myself running any other core daemon on it |
| 03:31.07 | obsidian-studios | pbd: for env's with constant changes and etc, sure AMP is great |
| 03:31.10 | X-Rob | pbd - I don't want him to run AMP. He'll be demading support on wanting to have apache on one machine, sql server on another, phone configuration on a third, and apache on a fourth. |
| 03:31.30 | pbd | obsidian: then you've severely limited your options. Heck, creating the tool you envision would require some sort of daemon to accept the changes and update asterisk- apache is just a better tested version of that. |
| 03:31.50 | X-Rob | pbd - ref my 'apache and xml-rpc' comment of about 1/2 an hour ago |
| 03:32.01 | obsidian-studios | pbd: but really aside from maintenance or ongoing stuff amp is over board |
| 03:32.02 | pbd | X-rob: yeah.. I'm just explaining it slower. :) |
| 03:32.07 | X-Rob | heh |
| 03:32.14 | obsidian-studios | ideally my tool would just generate the configs files based on a gui |
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| 03:32.30 | X-Rob | next thing is he'll be saying that he doesn't use perl because it's too hard to keep up to date. |
| 03:32.31 | obsidian-studios | in a perfect world it could control * in real time, but that's not what I am after in a sense |
| 03:32.31 | ZX81 | I have a gui |
| 03:32.33 | ZX81 | in C# |
| 03:32.36 | ZX81 | for windows XP |
| 03:32.41 | ZX81 | that i am working |
| 03:32.43 | ZX81 | *on |
| 03:32.52 | X-Rob | congratulations. |
| 03:32.55 | Netgeeks | There are implementations of what you want out there obsidian.. to a degree... Asterisk, with a hybrid realtime and dialplan from database config, with a remote db and a web app to manage the db... |
| 03:33.00 | ZX81 | currently creates agents.conf, queues.conf and a bit of extensions. |
| 03:33.02 | ZX81 | :) |
| 03:33.03 | obsidian-studios | ZX81: cool, linux person here, maybe I will write on in Java so it can be used on all platforms |
| 03:33.11 | ZX81 | C# |
| 03:33.24 | ZX81 | compiled in SharpDevelop |
| 03:33.28 | pbd | obsidian: Unfortunately, you're defining a toolset methodology that most of the IT world dumped a few years back- it's too slow to engineer changes, and what most businesses need are instant changes. |
| 03:33.29 | ZX81 | so, could try using mono |
| 03:33.43 | X-Rob | s/a few/20/ |
| 03:33.45 | obsidian-studios | X-Rob: I would not look for support on AMP, I stay away from many apps like it due to the dependencies on the same machine. I also run dedicated db servers, file servers, and etc. |
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| 03:34.47 | obsidian-studios | pbd: I know at Linux world several years back at a BOF Sun was asking what they could do. I mentioned a remote sys config and management utility that could run via some wire protocol, it's own port and etc. Not require a full blown standard service like apache |
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| 03:35.00 | pbd | Obsidian: if you've got such a large hardware budget, and obviously a large application development budget (to integrate all that stuff), I'm surprised you don't have a budget for worrying about upgrades. |
| 03:35.20 | obsidian-studios | pbd: basically I was getting at an open source program like the Control Station was to Cobalt server appliances |
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| 03:35.58 | obsidian-studios | pbd: you missed the entire upgrade aspect. I am always upgrading. Constantly. It's part of the reason I went to gentoo. However I do not want more than I am already doing without good reason and etc |
| 03:36.25 | X-Rob | obsidian-studios - no. The reason you're constantly upgrading is because you went to gentoo. |
| 03:36.26 | obsidian-studios | pbd: if you have never messed with Gentoo long term, then you would have no clue, but there are a few steps to upgrading |
| 03:36.32 | X-Rob | you've got it back to front there. |
| 03:36.39 | pbd | And you've missed my point- the services you're providing should be rich, and richly integrated- that's a dern good reason to integrate services on a single machine. |
| 03:36.56 | obsidian-studios | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:37.05 | X-Rob | obsidian-studios *shakes head* |
| 03:37.18 | obsidian-studios | pbd: they totally are, gentoo, use flags, I compile apps with specific stuff for other apps |
| 03:37.21 | X-Rob | I truly give up. |
| 03:37.29 | obsidian-studios | but I do not like programs that expect everything to be local on one machine |
| 03:37.51 | pbd | Actually, my approach to upgrading is- don't do it for the sake of some technote somewhere. Do it because you need to- perhaps a known security issue- but *not* because of some tweak that someone else found needed doing that isn't relevant to you. |
| 03:38.16 | X-Rob | pbd - here's a question for you. You have 20 machines, all doing seperate things. You use debian, or redhat, or something, on all the machines. The same OS on all the machines, because as a good integrater/admin, you've standardised on something. |
| 03:38.21 | slak- | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:38.33 | slak- | hi |
| 03:38.35 | X-Rob | now. There's a significant issue in sshd. What do you do? |
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| 03:38.40 | obsidian-studios | X-Rob: like RHEL, it does not have the lastest version of apache, tomcat, java etc. And I am not going to wait on RH, or another RHEL release. I considered Debian, before Ubuntu took off. I am very pleased with my up to date ness of Gentoo |
| 03:38.43 | slak- | hi |
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| 03:39.11 | slak- | hi |
| 03:39.12 | X-Rob | obsidian-studios - if any admins that worked for me randomly upgraded shit just because it was new, they'd be fired in a week. |
| 03:39.20 | X-Rob | you just don't do that. That's crazy talk. |
| 03:39.26 | obsidian-studios | X-Rob: first off ssh is not exported in most cases. If I need I can setup a binary repository for gentoo and push out binaries that I have specifically compiled at least once with the features I want |
| 03:39.47 | slak- | what port do i need open for my soft phone to contact my remote * box |
| 03:39.50 | slak- | 5060? |
| 03:39.54 | obsidian-studios | X-Rob: which is why I have two networks, one running gentoo ~x86 for testing and future stuff that will be in stable |
| 03:40.04 | pbd | X-rob: depends on my risk profile. But, for something as critical as sshd, I'd probably update.... sshd. Not RHEL, or SuSE, or SLACK, (or whatever my distro is) |
| 03:40.17 | obsidian-studios | servers only run x86, and I have never had any issues, less than ever before with RH |
| 03:40.23 | pbd | slak: what protocol is your softphone running? |
| 03:40.30 | X-Rob | would you like another one? |
| 03:40.34 | X-Rob | Lets say you're using, oooh, debian. |
| 03:40.40 | slak- | pbd: i gues its iax |
| 03:40.42 | slak- | iax2 |
| 03:40.51 | X-Rob | (are you comfortable with debian? or would you prefer RHEL? Mandrake? Pick one) |
| 03:40.56 | obsidian-studios | X-Rob: also, I do not have to take down servers to upgrade between major release, Gentoo does not have major releases, only profile updates |
| 03:41.27 | pbd | slak: Since it's saturday night, and I'm tired.. I'll give you a break. Go over to voip-info.org, look up the port that IAX uses, and open that one up. UDP only- that's my clue for the evening. ;-) |
| 03:41.35 | obsidian-studios | X-Rob: debian is not keeping up with the open source world well, Ubuntu is trying to correct that in a way |
| 03:41.50 | X-Rob | Damn I wish I still had my cluebat. |
| 03:41.50 | pbd | Rob: It really doesn't matter to me.. they all wear tuxedos. ;-) |
| 03:42.01 | slak- | pdb is there a soft phone for win32 that actually works? |
| 03:42.05 | slak- | diax doesnt even launch |
| 03:42.09 | slak- | iaxcomm is broken pos |
| 03:42.14 | slak- | something with a log file pergaps |
| 03:42.16 | slak- | perhaps |
| 03:42.21 | X-Rob | obsidian-studios - you've now agreed to do what I said waaaaaay up there. Local Update Repostiories. |
| 03:42.22 | obsidian-studios | pbd: yes Linux is linux for the most part, but this is a constantly changing open source world, distros must keep up |
| 03:42.29 | X-Rob | You have the machines check the repository once a night. |
| 03:42.29 | pbd | slak: I use DIAX, but it has it's issues.. it runs fine, just not indefinitely. :) |
| 03:42.34 | obsidian-studios | X-Rob: I can do that, but that's not my point |
| 03:42.42 | X-Rob | you put things in the repository when you're certain they're working |
| 03:42.43 | obsidian-studios | X-Rob: you probably are not familiar with etc-update |
| 03:42.55 | X-Rob | of course I'm not. |
| 03:42.56 | slak- | pbd: i added registeration to diax and it crashed now it wont launch |
| 03:42.57 | wunderkin | pbd: you have problems with it crashing after awhile too? |
| 03:43.02 | slak- | i triedt to clear configs |
| 03:43.05 | slak- | and it didnt fix it |
| 03:43.08 | obsidian-studios | even if I rpm or apt-get a package, there can still be differences in the config files |
| 03:43.09 | slak- | weird bug in event log |
| 03:43.20 | obsidian-studios | X-Rob: so I must deal with those differences, and etc or ignore |
| 03:43.21 | X-Rob | obsidian-studios - not if you make your own packages. |
| 03:43.29 | pbd | Rob: Hate to say it, but SUS (microsoft) lets us do just that, and we do, for all our windows clients. Having a corporate environment depend on windowsupdate is silly- SUS allows proper extraction of that. |
| 03:43.33 | obsidian-studios | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:43.48 | pbd | slak: Try emailing the developer- I've found him to be very responsive. |
| 03:43.56 | X-Rob | pbd - Yeah, I know. It's sad to say that even microsoft can clue onto a good idea, but obsidian-studios can't. |
| 03:44.06 | obsidian-studios | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:44.32 | X-Rob | obsidian-studios - now, take a step back, and think. 'How do I avoid configuration file changes'? |
| 03:44.36 | obsidian-studios | FYI, it takes me less than an hour per week to update between 10-20 machines. Most of the time is lost because I am not doing all at once |
| 03:44.50 | pbd | obsidian: But why have you updated apache? To correct a security problem? I've not seen one that has broken my config files- that would be a bug in it's own right. |
| 03:44.58 | obsidian-studios | X-Rob: look there are major differences with how most OS and Linux distros see things |
| 03:45.07 | X-Rob | OK. |
| 03:45.07 | obsidian-studios | I prefer the BSD ports way, it's very old |
| 03:45.10 | X-Rob | I truly give up |
| 03:45.25 | X-Rob | pbd, good luck with the cluebat. |
| 03:45.31 | obsidian-studios | only way to keep up and deal with an open source world is by using sources, not binaries |
| 03:45.43 | obsidian-studios | X-Rob: run binaries others have made for you. I will run my own |
| 03:46.02 | pbd | obsidian: I don't think Rob's advocating running someone else's binaries. |
| 03:46.20 | obsidian-studios | pbd: well pushing them out |
| 03:46.28 | pbd | but it does sound to me like you're doing a lot of updates that will only get you in more trouble. |
| 03:46.31 | obsidian-studios | I do not push the same binaries for all machines |
| 03:46.38 | obsidian-studios | all machines have different use flags, and etc |
| 03:46.53 | obsidian-studios | pbd: I am not new at this, I have been admin linux servers for 4+ years now |
| 03:47.07 | pbd | obsidian: For your design, that's appropriate- you would have a lot of inert machines if you didn't. But the design itself is flawed. |
| 03:47.12 | obsidian-studios | pbd: I have lost allot of $ due to exploits, and etc, I will not again while I am waiting on others binaries |
| 03:47.43 | obsidian-studios | pbd: I compile apps differently for pIII's, P4s, AMD procs, AMD64 procs, etc |
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| 03:47.57 | pbd | You're *too* conservative in your approach- to a fault, which, unless you're doing corporate banking or securities, will eventually bite you on the ass. |
| 03:48.33 | obsidian-studios | pbd: well it's done me well, and I have only ended up here, because of experiences in the past |
| 03:48.36 | pbd | Someday, your client/boss/whatever will want to put on something that requires integration- and your environment won't support it. Been there. |
| 03:48.48 | obsidian-studios | also most good ISP's and etc I know distribute things as well |
| 03:48.57 | pbd | Distribution is not isolation. |
| 03:49.10 | bkw__ | ok ok let me get caught up so I can pick a side |
| 03:49.13 | obsidian-studios | pbd: possibly but clients rarely dictate how things are, and so far no boss ;) |
| 03:49.14 | pbd | Proper distributed services are also integrated services. Scalability also demands it. |
| 03:49.30 | X-Rob | Morning bkw 8) |
| 03:49.36 | bkw__ | yo X-Rob |
| 03:49.41 | mog_home | lol i was thinking same thing brian |
| 03:49.43 | bkw__ | let me know when the AMP dudes are in the conf |
| 03:49.43 | pbd | Clients will dictate it when they see the bill, and get my proposal for a less costly, more efficient, more *rich* environment. ;-) |
| 03:49.49 | obsidian-studios | pbd: sure, and I can deal with the services on their own, beefier machines, multiple and load balance and etc |
| 03:49.50 | mog_home | but i was gonna be contrarian |
| 03:49.55 | X-Rob | bkw_ - not gunna happen for a while now. |
| 03:49.59 | X-Rob | They all went 'bah, too hard' |
| 03:50.09 | X-Rob | and then 'all' ended up only being one person |
| 03:50.10 | bkw__ | I can already tell obsidian-studios needs to shush |
| 03:50.11 | X-Rob | so fuggit. |
| 03:50.18 | bkw__ | we don't care |
| 03:50.19 | obsidian-studios | pbd: yes and eggs in a basket, drop the basket all break |
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| 03:50.28 | bkw__ | obsidian-studios, not if you have alot of baskets |
| 03:50.33 | bkw__ | 20 baskets |
| 03:50.38 | bkw__ | its easy to manage |
| 03:50.40 | bkw__ | easy to clone |
| 03:50.42 | bkw__ | easy to update |
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| 03:50.49 | bkw__ | tried and true |
| 03:51.05 | obsidian-studios | bkw__: that's what I have, I just did not see the point of having another apache install, introducing a mysql install, and etc just to run AMP for once and a while things |
| 03:51.13 | X-Rob | ARGH |
| 03:51.15 | X-Rob | AMP IS NOT FOR YOU |
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| 03:51.18 | obsidian-studios | or for the novice installing all for amp |
| 03:51.23 | obsidian-studios | I am not just asking for me |
| 03:51.25 | pbd | Brian is running his filter program again.. pulling out bits and pieces. Amazing how well it works, though. |
| 03:51.43 | X-Rob | the, uh, able-to-be-beaten table, that is |
| 03:51.50 | bkw__ | pbd, what? |
| 03:52.16 | obsidian-studios | when I do my lug presentation and someone like aaronz says can I use amp to manage my * install, I can say sure but you have to install apache, and mysql as well. If they are not familiar with them, that's a step curve on top of ( |
| 03:52.18 | obsidian-studios | of * |
| 03:52.22 | pbd | You've just made a synposis of the last 20 minutes.. almost word for word, by taking one relevant phrase out of each line. ;-) |
| 03:52.48 | bkw__ | steep curve of asterisk? |
| 03:53.03 | bkw__ | pbd :P |
| 03:53.20 | mog_home | lol |
| 03:53.28 | obsidian-studios | bkw__: newbs have a step learning curve with * |
| 03:53.28 | mog_home | parens dont have a good name |
| 03:53.35 | obsidian-studios | bkw__: steep |
| 03:53.45 | bkw__ | not really |
| 03:53.47 | mog_home | bah |
| 03:53.50 | bkw__ | just have to read and follow |
| 03:53.54 | mog_home | exactly |
| 03:54.00 | mog_home | lazy people have problem with * |
| 03:54.02 | mog_home | not stupid |
| 03:54.07 | X-Rob | kill lazy people. |
| 03:54.18 | X-Rob | fucker. FUCKER. |
| 03:54.21 | mog_home | and lazy people should pay asterlink, digium etc to config boxes or wait for amp to mature |
| 03:54.45 | pbd | See, now there's the fundamental problem. I come to * from 20 years in the IT game, last 5 having 'hard core' telephony exp. Newbs expect that Asterisk is a great replacement for that aging answering machine next to their bunk bed. |
| 03:55.06 | obsidian-studios | well I do not know aaronz, but I would not assume lazy at first, but wanting to do something small with a large program. So there is allot to read to accomplish the small task. I do not see AMP making it any easier? |
| 03:55.30 | pbd | It's not. It's a PBX. Designed as one, looks like one- configs a little too much like one, but there's light in that tunnel... ael shows promise. |
| 03:55.40 | slak- | ugh i cant get my * box to accept my softphone connection, the current setup uses sipura ata units |
| 03:55.51 | slak- | im trying to connect to it via softphone via vpn |
| 03:55.52 | obsidian-studios | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:56.14 | pbd | slak: What client, what error... NAT? |
| 03:56.16 | slak- | what do i need to config besides add an account to iax.conf |
| 03:56.22 | obsidian-studios | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:56.30 | slak- | no error at all just cant even establish a connection with asterisk server |
| 03:56.31 | pbd | Actually, a good geek would *never* make that mistake. |
| 03:56.33 | slak- | no nat |
| 03:56.34 | pbd | They usually read. |
| 03:56.34 | X-Rob | OK, I totally agree that AMP sucks arse for prerequisties. And the way it has to have apache running as asterisk. That's just evil. But, that's being fixed. |
| 03:56.35 | bkw__ | ya they use Linux |
| 03:56.48 | mog_home | i think asterisk should focus on being enterprise level 5 switch grade as apposed to being nubb easy to use |
| 03:56.50 | slak- | pbd: client is diaxc |
| 03:56.51 | bkw__ | the problem I find is most LUG's are full of assholes that think they know how shit works because they can install Redhat |
| 03:56.57 | t3t | X-Rob, what made you choose centos? |
| 03:56.59 | Moc_ | we just need to make a good Manager Interface ;) |
| 03:57.09 | pbd | slak: Have you gone through the config in the diax help file? |
| 03:57.11 | obsidian-studios | X-Rob: I just know from talking to other app developers. Many are starting to put things like web servers in apps, instead of apps in web servers |
| 03:57.27 | slak- | yes |
| 03:57.35 | *** join/#asterisk SaH (n=CaBuK_OL@81.213.240.104) |
| 03:57.46 | pbd | slak: And do you see anything in the logs on your asterisk server side? |
| 03:57.49 | X-Rob | t3t - it's a decision I made because Mandrake turned crap 8) |
| 03:57.50 | slak- | no |
| 03:57.59 | t3t | X-Rob, fair enough. thanks |
| 03:58.00 | pbd | (you did restart/reload *, right?) |
| 03:58.37 | slak- | yes |
| 03:58.42 | obsidian-studios | bkw__: in areas that Linux is not used much in business env. like here in FL, many play with it, instead of work withi it |
| 03:58.58 | bkw__ | obsidian-studios, and you know this for a fact |
| 03:59.03 | pbd | slak: and have you turned up the verbosity to see if your client is even making it? You can ping the * box from the machine that diax is on, right? |
| 03:59.07 | bkw__ | I like how you're the know it all on what people use in FL |
| 03:59.16 | slak- | udp 0 0 *:iax *:* |
| 03:59.23 | obsidian-studios | bkw__: well not all of FL, but deff in the Jacksonville area |
| 03:59.33 | slak- | yes i can ping, i tried to connect to it via VPN and non vpn |
| 03:59.35 | pbd | obsidian: What dope are you smoking, exactly, that makes you say Linux isn't used in business environments in florida? |
| 03:59.38 | slak- | all ports are open |
| 03:59.41 | slak- | ;D |
| 03:59.43 | obsidian-studios | bkw__: but it's all totally different from when I was in S.F., California |
| 04:00.04 | obsidian-studios | pbd: not as widely, as I have seen in other areas |
| 04:00.16 | bkw__ | obsidian-studios, you're full of shit |
| 04:00.17 | obsidian-studios | pbd: it's mostly still old school Unix and windows |
| 04:00.27 | pbd | obsidian: What do you base this on, low attendance at your LUG? |
| 04:00.28 | bkw__ | I don't like linux as much but I'm not going to go out and say something that isn't true |
| 04:00.45 | obsidian-studios | bkw__: CSX headquartered here does not do much with Linux, Fidelity National Financial, located here, does not do much if anything with Linux |
| 04:00.52 | slak- | pbd: cant connect the box and cant register ;/ |
| 04:00.55 | obsidian-studios | PGA Tour, only runs a few Linux servers in a large network |
| 04:01.03 | bkw__ | obsidian-studios, but many people do use linux |
| 04:01.05 | obsidian-studios | Blue Cross Blue Shield is not big in LInux |
| 04:01.13 | obsidian-studios | Prudential is not big in Linux |
| 04:01.14 | pbd | I'd say that's completely ass-backwards. In SF (or in the silicon valley area), there are a lot of people playing- and just as many people USING linux as anywhere else, per capita. |
| 04:01.23 | bkw__ | I don't expect banking people to use Linux |
| 04:01.24 | bkw__ | it's not wise |
| 04:01.34 | obsidian-studios | AOL has a massive call center here, hardly any linux |
| 04:02.02 | Qwell | bofa uses Linux |
| 04:02.02 | pbd | slak: well, there's your problem.. if you cant get from one box to the other... |
| 04:02.17 | pbd | slak: can you at least ssh into the * server from that machine? |
| 04:02.17 | obsidian-studios | pbd: I knew people within Cisco's Fiber R&D center that swapped out some unix machines for Linux boxes for better network throughput? |
| 04:02.25 | slak- | yes man im logged in there right now |
| 04:02.28 | slak- | asteirsk console |
| 04:02.35 | obsidian-studios | Qwell: bofa is one of the most state of the art banks out there |
| 04:02.38 | slak- | established a fully open vpn connection |
| 04:02.40 | pbd | slak: So you do have connectivity. |
| 04:02.43 | slak- | yes |
| 04:02.49 | Qwell | obsidian-studios: My bank (unnamed, very large bank) uses Linux, to an extent |
| 04:03.07 | slak- | netstat shows asterisk is listening on *:iax |
| 04:03.16 | obsidian-studios | bkw__: so my point, when looking around the corporate landscape of Jacksonville, not much LInux, and in the LUG hardly any that use it withing businesses |
| 04:03.17 | slak- | udp |
| 04:03.29 | obsidian-studios | Qwell: awesome are they in Fl? |
| 04:03.32 | pbd | slak: netstat is correct. |
| 04:03.35 | Qwell | obsidian-studios: they are |
| 04:03.36 | bkw__ | obsidian-studios, and we know the LUG is the defacto know it all |
| 04:03.47 | bkw__ | NEXT!!! |
| 04:03.53 | bkw__ | lets shut up about this .. its pointless |
| 04:03.59 | obsidian-studios | bkw__: no not at all, just a sign a bit on the local linux community and etc |
| 04:04.08 | mog_home | thank you brian |
| 04:04.12 | bkw__ | NEXT!!! |
| 04:04.15 | bkw__ | ZIP IT |
| 04:04.16 | mog_home | no next |
| 04:04.18 | pbd | slak: I didn't see above well enough- got lost in the lunacy.. have you turned up verbosity and iax2 debug on your console? |
| 04:04.29 | blitzrage | no soup for you! |
| 04:04.37 | slak- | pbd: im looking to see how |
| 04:04.49 | pbd | slak: set verbose 3 (or so).. iax2 debug |
| 04:05.05 | pbd | (cli commands.. it's late, I'm talking shorthand.. stop me if I'm going past you) |
| 04:05.16 | slak- | iac2 debug |
| 04:05.24 | slak- | k |
| 04:05.37 | slak- | ok it spit out a bunch |
| 04:06.01 | *** part/#asterisk rickxu (n=rickxu@222.94.3.84) |
| 04:06.20 | pbd | Now, you're going to have to go through it a bit- it should explain your issue, if you see any traffic from your softphone client.. my guess is, you've got a registration mismatch, which should be fairly easy to spot. |
| 04:06.52 | slak- | ah nope nothing relevant to my softphone |
| 04:06.56 | slak- | only my iax trunk |
| 04:07.05 | pbd | If you've got a lot of other stuff defined, you might have to filter through it a bit- the verbose 3 will show you other trunks coming and going, etc. |
| 04:07.11 | slak- | i dont think * is set up to establish connection |
| 04:07.13 | slak- | er accept |
| 04:07.39 | pbd | slak: If you've got an iax trunk going.. and it's listening to the udp port.. you're set up to at least see failed registration attempts. |
| 04:07.50 | pbd | I'd check your diax config- make sure you've got the right IP, etc. |
| 04:08.14 | slak- | maybe i can pastebin some configs for u to look at/ |
| 04:08.36 | pbd | Unless you've got a firewall filtering out that iax port (which you already looked for), you should at least see the start. |
| 04:08.53 | slak- | no firewall things should be wide open |
| 04:09.08 | pbd | Sure.. but I'm running on about 10 hours less sleep this week than I should have.. so.. no guarantees. |
| 04:09.19 | pbd | Start with the diax client. |
| 04:11.24 | pbd | But.. take a *hard* look at your diax config, make sure things are what they should be. IP address is the one I'm thinking. |
| 04:11.47 | pbd | Since asterisk is listening on that port.. if something tried to hit it- even in a failure, you should see it in the log. |
| 04:12.01 | slak- | hm |
| 04:12.18 | *** join/#asterisk jimmy_deanPB (n=jhodapp@cpe-71-65-37-102.indy.res.rr.com) |
| 04:12.54 | pbd | I've not played around with the deny clauses in iax.conf- I don't know if they'd generate a debug if a denied box tried to hit it.. that's the only other possibility I can think of. Anyone out there tried that one? |
| 04:13.03 | *** join/#asterisk Exstatica (i=Exstatic@static-71-116-196-11.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 04:13.35 | slak- | diax says :registration never: |
| 04:13.54 | pbd | You do have the 'register' checkbox checked, right? ;-) |
| 04:14.07 | slak- | yes |
| 04:15.30 | pbd | Where does diax say never? |
| 04:15.47 | slak- | when i hover over the red number 1 box |
| 04:16.45 | pbd | hangon.. firing up my diax client. |
| 04:17.25 | pbd | That registration never is meaningless. |
| 04:17.50 | *** join/#asterisk Umaro (n=umaro@209.140.74.64) |
| 04:18.29 | pbd | All it means is that it didn't successfully register yet.. |
| 04:19.04 | slak- | heres my iax.conf |
| 04:19.06 | slak- | http://pastebin.ca/22622 |
| 04:19.28 | slak- | diax is what i added for my softphone |
| 04:19.37 | slak- | the stuff above is m iax trunk to asterlin |
| 04:19.38 | slak- | k |
| 04:21.26 | pbd | Hmm. You're missing a username in there. |
| 04:22.53 | pbd | http://pastebin.ca/22623 |
| 04:23.03 | pbd | there is the relevant section of mine |
| 04:23.11 | Umaro | Anyone have the latest polycom firmware, or have access to their site? |
| 04:24.42 | pbd | Umaro: Can't say that I do. |
| 04:25.29 | slak- | still dont see anything in asterisk logs ;( |
| 04:25.55 | pbd | And you have a username in the diax config? |
| 04:26.04 | slak- | yes |
| 04:26.12 | slak- | pbd do i need something in extensions.conf for my softphone |
| 04:26.14 | pbd | And the register box is checked? |
| 04:26.18 | brc_ | anybody got a polycom? |
| 04:26.18 | slak- | yes |
| 04:26.25 | brc_ | got a question |
| 04:26.57 | pbd | slak: Not for registration, no- you do if you need a context to land in, or to be called, but to get registration, no. |
| 04:26.57 | bkw__ | firmware? |
| 04:28.02 | pbd | slak: It's possible I'm fuzzy- but there's definitely something squirrely here- and it's probably big and obvious, like a typo. Since they're usually invisible.. how about running ethereal on the client pc and seeing if traffic is leaving and getting responses? |
| 04:28.18 | slak- | ok |
| 04:28.34 | pbd | If you're not seeing registration attempts in asterisk, yet everything is defined correctly, either diax is giving up, or there's something blocking packets. |
| 04:28.47 | slak- | like comcast.net |
| 04:28.47 | slak- | :D |
| 04:28.55 | pbd | Diax wouldn't give up (in my experience) unless it's misconfigured... but it doesn't sound like it is. |
| 04:28.56 | slak- | subscribe to our digital telephone |
| 04:29.27 | pbd | I'm running DIAX, simultaneously connected to two different asterisk boxen, across a VPN, using comcast.net, as we speak- so I'd have to rule out a general failure. |
| 04:29.53 | pbd | I'm running diax 0.9.10g.. generally, I have no problems with it. |
| 04:30.06 | pbd | (although it won't stay up for more than 24 hours.. I think a small memory leak) |
| 04:30.28 | slak- | one sec let me fireup etherreal |
| 04:31.39 | slak- | do i need to append a port number to server line in diax |
| 04:32.02 | pbd | Are you using a nonstandard port for IAX? |
| 04:32.14 | slak- | no |
| 04:32.25 | pbd | Then I'd have to say no. |
| 04:32.56 | kusznir | Ok, asterisk call routing question: |
| 04:33.13 | kusznir | Lets say I have 3 * boxes at different locations, each serving up local extentions. |
| 04:33.41 | pbd | ok.. |
| 04:33.44 | kusznir | I want to have IAX between each box, and lets say for the moment that only one has a trunk of some side to the outside. |
| 04:34.14 | kusznir | Is there a way for the * boxes to figure out how to route calls amonst themselves without having to hand-code what extentions go to what boxes? |
| 04:34.42 | t3t | ~dundi |
| 04:34.45 | jbot | rumour has it, dundi is http://www.dundi.com |
| 04:35.22 | mog_home | heh |
| 04:35.22 | kusznir | I've read their web page; unfortunately I don't understand how to use it in *. I suspect dundi was involved in the solution somehow. |
| 04:35.25 | mog_home | i like jbot |
| 04:35.53 | t3t | kusznir, through dudi they can exchange routing information, but if you onlly have one with an external trunk, it should be pretty easy to hard-code the extensions on the isolated box |
| 04:35.56 | shido6 | ~rxfax |
| 04:36.21 | pbd | That's almost too easy... I'd say we should have him cook up a central mysql application and use realtime. ;-) |
| 04:36.48 | Corydon76-home | Or use 5055 |
| 04:36.57 | kusznir | For example, how do you define what extentions are served by your * locally? |
| 04:37.16 | t3t | pbd, realtime isn't new enough... I think he should use the MYSQL function and create tables for routing that are queried in the dialplan |
| 04:38.04 | pbd | kusznir: Define them as extensions in the relevant contexts... dundi should do the rest. |
| 04:38.09 | t3t | kusznir, you make them up? what do you mean? |
| 04:38.27 | pbd | Seriously, read up on dundi config with asterisk.. it should be painfully obvious. |
| 04:38.29 | Darwin35 | I need more functions for my pbx |
| 04:38.34 | Darwin35 | ideas ideas |
| 04:38.37 | kusznir | Where do I find dundi config for *? |
| 04:38.43 | Qwell | kusznir: the wiki |
| 04:38.51 | Darwin35 | in the extensions.conf.sample |
| 04:38.59 | pbd | Darwin: ability to make coffee? |
| 04:39.17 | X-Rob | 1-900-pr0n-now? |
| 04:39.20 | Darwin35 | home automation |
| 04:39.46 | kusznir | some have integrated misterhome into their * config.... |
| 04:39.58 | Darwin35 | misterhome hmmm |
| 04:40.44 | nick125 | t3t: in version 2.0 which might get released before the next decade passes |
| 04:43.07 | Darwin35 | I cant find the misterhome src |
| 04:43.12 | Darwin35 | whats the url |
| 04:43.21 | kusznir | misterhome.sf.net I think. |
| 04:43.25 | Darwin35 | google just comes up with junk pages |
| 04:43.38 | slak- | hey pbd my diax client is behind nat |
| 04:43.43 | slak- | does that make a difference? |
| 04:43.46 | kusznir | http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A//misterhouse.sourceforge.net/&ei=9rUjQ7yjEIGYYIabhewG |
| 04:43.58 | kusznir | err...http://sourceforge.net/projects/misterhouse/ |
| 04:44.26 | pbd | slak: Might. But.. so is mine. |
| 04:44.39 | *** join/#asterisk [1]JohnJacob (n=JohnJaco@pcp0011543623pcs.mainf01.in.comcast.net) |
| 04:44.47 | Darwin35 | ok got it |
| 04:44.59 | Darwin35 | I have it working with myth tv |
| 04:45.41 | Darwin35 | but the mythtv box died 1 week ago |
| 04:45.49 | *** join/#asterisk coppice (n=chatzill@91.196.17.210.dyn.pacific.net.hk) |
| 04:46.21 | Darwin35 | I have a door phone and buzzer |
| 04:46.55 | coppice | can someone try http://www.soft-switch.org and see what they get? |
| 04:46.59 | pbd | slak: Generally.. iax is less prone to NAT weirdness than SIP/H.323.. and when it does crop up, it would be a one-way packet loss situation. |
| 04:47.13 | Qwell | coppice: Smart call processing for dumb telephony hardware |
| 04:47.19 | X-Rob | coppice - it was down earlier |
| 04:47.23 | Darwin35 | I get the webpage |
| 04:47.31 | X-Rob | no DNS here |
| 04:47.45 | coppice | X-Rob: I didn't ask someone to try it in the past :-) |
| 04:47.48 | Darwin35 | try reseting your net connection |
| 04:47.52 | *** join/#asterisk dudes (n=dudes@12-215-34-84.client.mchsi.com) |
| 04:48.04 | slak- | dude i dont even see any attempts of diax trying to establkish connection with my iax box |
| 04:48.07 | Darwin35 | and clear your resolve.conf |
| 04:48.18 | X-Rob | and frangliate the combulator. |
| 04:48.35 | X-Rob | coppice - nope. No DNS |
| 04:48.36 | coppice | I have server troubles. I just moved the stuff to a homepage bundled with my ADSL, and set up DNS forwarding |
| 04:49.06 | t3t | soft-switch.org's dns servers aren't all working... |
| 04:49.10 | coppice | X-Rob: if the others see it, maybe you still have the old DNS stuff in cache |
| 04:49.51 | *** join/#asterisk jimmy_deanPB (n=jhodapp@cpe-71-65-37-102.indy.res.rr.com) |
| 04:49.57 | t3t | 1/3 of the time you won't reach the site |
| 04:50.11 | *** join/#asterisk rootfiend (n=rootfien@ip68-107-134-223.tc.ph.cox.net) |
| 04:50.29 | coppice | well, that is what I am trying to fix |
| 04:50.34 | t3t | they set up dns in a non-standard way as well... there are 2 glue records and 3 servers |
| 04:50.45 | pbd | Well, folks.. I've got to get the dog walked, and the long nap taken. |
| 04:50.51 | slak- | thanks pbd |
| 04:50.52 | slak- | later |
| 04:50.57 | X-Rob | I'm not even getting any NS responses. |
| 04:51.07 | pbd | Slak: sorry- and good luck.. ethereal should yield you a clue. |
| 04:51.29 | X-Rob | woo, coppice.org has DNS |
| 04:51.31 | t3t | X-Rob, your resolver probably chose the broken server to use |
| 04:51.36 | coppice | the DNS is now being handled by the free DNS service of my domain registrar |
| 04:51.43 | t3t | poorly |
| 04:51.43 | X-Rob | t3t, I'm trying to query the NS records. |
| 04:51.52 | X-Rob | from .org |
| 04:51.55 | *** part/#asterisk pbd (n=plancomm@c-67-163-20-134.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 04:51.56 | X-Rob | I'm getting nothing |
| 04:51.59 | coppice | t3t: shut up |
| 04:52.00 | t3t | X-Rob, from which server? |
| 04:52.18 | X-Rob | although, who the fuck is ultradns? |
| 04:52.24 | t3t | coppice, I'm just relaying the facts... dns servers with glue setup wrong and 1/3 of the servers down is poor in my book. |
| 04:52.34 | X-Rob | dig org NS says 'ultradns.net' everywhere |
| 04:52.38 | t3t | X-Rob, one of the best dns providers on the planet |
| 04:52.57 | t3t | X-Rob, they were one of the pioneers of anycast dns |
| 04:53.02 | coppice | t3t: you aren't following the conversation. I just moved from that to using my registrar |
| 04:54.21 | X-Rob | ok, tld2,3 and 4 of ultradns (who seem to be the .org guys) know that the NS is joker.com |
| 04:54.32 | X-Rob | (I didn't check any more) - is joker correct? |
| 04:54.45 | coppice | yeah. joker is my registrar |
| 04:55.06 | X-Rob | ;; ANSWER SECTION: |
| 04:55.07 | X-Rob | www.soft-switch.org. 86400 IN A 159.25.16.138 |
| 04:55.13 | X-Rob | (from joker) |
| 04:55.28 | X-Rob | so that looks like it's fixed. |
| 04:58.10 | *** join/#asterisk hadi57 (i=al_moghr@62.3.44.62) |
| 04:59.10 | coppice | t3t: I just checked the old DNS setup. you should have seen 4 entries, 2 of which should have been removed a while ago. |
| 05:00.25 | slak- | ehstd s |
| 05:00.43 | slak- | whats a good sip phone for windos |
| 05:00.56 | Moc_ | anyone know cheap/good web designer ? |
| 05:01.06 | *** join/#asterisk atmel (n=vlad@ip68-4-101-199.oc.oc.cox.net) |
| 05:01.32 | Moc_ | no flash... good html/css and basic graphic.. |
| 05:02.20 | kusznir | slak-: xten-light is free and seems to be pretty decent. |
| 05:02.34 | kusznir | and it supports a bunch of OSes including win. |
| 05:02.38 | t3t | coppice, how long ago did you change the authoritative servers with the root? |
| 05:03.02 | coppice | 2 or 3 years |
| 05:03.18 | t3t | so what change did you make recently? |
| 05:03.35 | coppice | oh, sorry. a few months ago when I canged from opencall.org to soft-switch.org |
| 05:04.06 | coppice | well I changed it a few minutes ago. I thought you were referring to older changes |
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| 05:05.05 | criptos | hello all!:) |
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| 05:07.29 | *** part/#asterisk Umaro (n=umaro@209.140.74.64) |
| 05:07.40 | criptos | Hello all! |
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| 05:10.38 | t3t | coppice, did you used to use ultradns for your authoritative dns servers? |
| 05:11.01 | t3t | hi criptos |
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| 05:18.05 | brc_ | anybody got a source for polycom firmware? |
| 05:18.09 | brc_ | trying to get ahold of 1.5.3 |
| 05:18.23 | t3t | what's new in 1.5.3, brc_? |
| 05:18.35 | brc_ | dunno, don't have the change log |
| 05:18.37 | kusznir | I've read the dundi GPA and the various config options for *, and think I get a handle on it. I get the impression that "small-fish" (single-line end users) are not generally invited to participate in dundi, is this correct? (in this case, I'd be in inbound-only peer). |
| 05:18.47 | brc_ | and the new bootrom |
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| 05:19.12 | X-Rob | kusznir - you don't have to peer with anyone except yourself |
| 05:19.14 | t3t | kusznir, true because of it's method of authentication |
| 05:19.24 | bobessutio | anybody have used chanspy and asterisk cvs? |
| 05:19.37 | brc_ | 3.0.1 is the new bootrom, freedomphones only has 2.6 |
| 05:19.45 | t3t | there isn't an easy way to keep the cruft out of dundi w/o having a trusted peer list and limited access |
| 05:20.17 | t3t | brc_, but what's your goal? Is there a specific problem that's fixed with the latest images or do you just want to have the latest? |
| 05:20.17 | kusznir | How sucessful is the dundi network currently? I mean, are there a lot of participants in the "main" network/tree/whatever? |
| 05:21.17 | kusznir | dundi seems to make a lot of sence; why go VoIP -> ptsn -> voip when it would be possible to just do a direct IP->IP call. Yet, it seems like its difficult to find a connected peer and get on. |
| 05:21.19 | brc_ | I'd like to use the latest...deploying some new 600's |
| 05:21.46 | t3t | kusznir, doesn't look like many here: http://dundi.com/members.html |
| 05:22.15 | t3t | brc_, wouldn't you rather use an image that's been pretty thoroughly tested? |
| 05:22.58 | brc_ | not particularly |
| 05:23.05 | t3t | ... and tested with * since polycom doesn't support it. |
| 05:23.17 | brc_ | I can always roll back if need be |
| 05:23.31 | t3t | isn't the same true about rolling forward? |
| 05:23.56 | brc_ | meh, it's a little different |
| 05:24.05 | brc_ | going from a known, to unknown state |
| 05:24.29 | t3t | wouldn't you test on your bench network before you deploy? |
| 05:24.58 | brc_ | yes |
| 05:25.17 | brc_ | seriously, why the inquisition? |
| 05:25.24 | brc_ | if you can't help me, say so and move on |
| 05:25.45 | brc_ | sheesh, irc lemmings these days... |
| 05:29.22 | t3t | I'm sorry that I even attempeted to teach you one of the principles of structured systems engineering. For the lurkers: "Don't fix what isn't broken in a stable system when you don't even know what the fix is?" |
| 05:30.30 | criptos | t3t: And what about an holisitc approach? |
| 05:30.41 | brc_ | haha great domain t3t |
| 05:30.47 | t3t | I'll leave that to Zen |
| 05:30.49 | t3t | thanks, brc |
| 05:31.44 | brc_ | criptos, your ideas intrigue me and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter... |
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| 05:32.15 | brc_ | asterisk -- homeopathy style! |
| 05:32.23 | X-Rob | ~elvis |
| 05:32.26 | jbot | A clone of vi/ex, the standard UNIX editor.. URL: ftp://ftp.cs.pdx.edu/pub/elvis/ |
| 05:32.32 | X-Rob | *bahahahahah* |
| 05:32.38 | X-Rob | OK. That wasn't what I was expecting. |
| 05:33.09 | criptos | Common, linux has a lot of hippi style, why not treat linux as the homeopaty for sistems? I have done some reiki to an * box to fix "echo" :) |
| 05:33.26 | brc_ | ~elvis is also "X-Rob *bahahahahah* OK. That wasn't what I was expecting." |
| 05:33.28 | jbot | brc_: okay |
| 05:33.34 | X-Rob | Doh |
| 05:33.42 | X-Rob | ~elvis |
| 05:33.43 | jbot | A clone of vi/ex, the standard UNIX editor.. URL: ftp://ftp.cs.pdx.edu/pub/elvis/, or "X-Rob *bahahahahah* OK. That wasn't what I was expecting." |
| 05:33.50 | brc_ | criptos, bwhahahahaha |
| 05:34.17 | brc_ | http://www.reiki.org/FAQ/WhatIsReiki.html |
| 05:34.42 | Corydon76-home | brc_: so... have you taken a look at 5055 yet? |
| 05:35.19 | brc_ | hadn't...looking |
| 05:35.42 | Corydon76-home | 5183 is a gem, too |
| 05:36.32 | criptos | Yeah! Sure, Think about this... there are a LOT of MD saing, I used to be alopath, now I´m homeopat, And there is a lot of tech people who says, I´m used to be a microsoft guy, now I´m a linux guy.. |
| 05:36.34 | brc_ | nice |
| 05:36.52 | brc_ | 5183 is long overdue |
| 05:36.54 | brc_ | :) |
| 05:37.02 | criptos | How much for a 5183? |
| 05:37.15 | Corydon76-home | 5183 is free |
| 05:37.28 | brc_ | heh |
| 05:37.42 | Corydon76-home | If you want to pay me for creating it, I have no problem with that... |
| 05:37.51 | bkw__ | 5162 is golden also |
| 05:37.53 | bkw__ | if you use sip |
| 05:39.04 | criptos | I´m confused, is´t 5183 a polycom phone? |
| 05:39.11 | criptos | or what is? |
| 05:39.15 | bkw__ | its a bug number boi |
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| 05:39.28 | criptos | File.. u are gonna get dizzy and the puke... |
| 05:39.32 | criptos | hoooooooooooo............................................... |
| 05:39.47 | criptos | huuuuuuumm... I was looking at the wrong wall... |
| 05:39.48 | brc_ | FILE!! |
| 05:39.54 | Corydon76-home | http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=5183 |
| 05:40.06 | brc_ | ~Corydon76 |
| 05:40.11 | Moc_ | hehe |
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| 05:40.21 | brc_ | not listed eh |
| 05:40.28 | Corydon76-home | Of course not |
| 05:40.55 | Corydon76-home | Maybe when I do something impressive... |
| 05:41.39 | Moc_ | 1h41.. hehe time passing fast.. |
| 05:42.21 | Netgeeks | hrm, how is 5055 used in the dial plan? I see you have a conf sample, but did you have a dialplan sample somewhere? |
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| 05:42.50 | Corydon76-home | Set(foo=${ODBC_WHATEVER(arg1,arg2,arg3)}) |
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| 05:43.30 | Corydon76-home | Or for writing, Set(ODBC_WHATEVER(arg1,arg2,arg3)=foo) |
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| 05:43.54 | Netgeeks | you open and close the connection for each query I take it? or do you open a single connection for the channel and close when the channel goes away? |
| 05:44.01 | Corydon76-home | Neither |
| 05:44.12 | Corydon76-home | The connection is cached by res_odbc |
| 05:44.15 | Netgeeks | bah, Elvis |
| 05:44.27 | Netgeeks | ah |
| 05:44.29 | bwzb | hi, anyone use know how to use callgroup in sip.conf? |
| 05:44.31 | Netgeeks | hrm |
| 05:44.44 | Netgeeks | this is good stuff, Corydon |
| 05:44.53 | Corydon76-home | Thank you |
| 05:44.54 | bwzb | I tried to define a group of sip user to receive incoming calls |
| 05:44.55 | Netgeeks | bye bye asterisk-addons |
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| 05:45.19 | Corydon76-home | As usual, this is me overengineering the solution to a problem |
| 05:45.33 | Corydon76-home | thus saving me more work later |
| 05:46.05 | Netgeeks | interested in a little cash on the side? I've got some patches (mostly small) I am looking to have done. Was going to post on -dev tomorrow.... |
| 05:46.23 | Corydon76-home | I do stuff I'm interested in doing |
| 05:46.26 | brc_ | what sort of patches |
| 05:46.33 | Moc_ | wasnt there a asterisk documentation project on the way ? |
| 05:46.38 | brc_ | no |
| 05:46.44 | Corydon76-home | If the stuff you want is interesting, I may take a stab at it |
| 05:47.07 | Moc_ | I wanna do documentation for a project, and wonder what to use ... (generate html,ps,pdf document ? |
| 05:47.18 | Netgeeks | I want setvar= added to zaptel channels, I want a register= directive for peer entries instead of the clunky register=> line....... |
| 05:47.26 | brc_ | Moc_, docbook |
| 05:47.28 | coppice | Moc_ Docbook |
| 05:47.33 | Moc_ | ha that it .. docbook thanks.. |
| 05:47.41 | Corydon76-home | Netgeeks: okay, sure |
| 05:47.42 | coppice | but find yourself a sane schema |
| 05:47.45 | Moc_ | was searching for the name ..(only had doxygen in mind hehe |
| 05:48.09 | coppice | the schemas from Docbook itself look real ugly. |
| 05:48.39 | Netgeeks | and I wanted a system-id that is used in realtime. basically an extra field is added to the realtime tables and if the system-id matches that field or if the field is all, the entry is read and used, if not it is ignored |
| 05:48.45 | coppice | using xmlto is the starting point for getting to like Docbook |
| 05:49.02 | Corydon76-home | Can't help you on realtime |
| 05:49.14 | Netgeeks | Thats fine |
| 05:49.42 | Corydon76-home | Netgeeks: which peer entries for register=? SIP? IAX? |
| 05:50.01 | Netgeeks | sip is my biggest concern, but I'd like it in both |
| 05:51.52 | Corydon76-home | k |
| 05:52.01 | Corydon76-home | going to bed. ttyl |
| 05:52.12 | Netgeeks | later |
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| 06:14.06 | Darwin35 | night kids |
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| 06:28.02 | RoyK | morning |
| 06:28.24 | Qwell | afternoon |
| 06:28.39 | RoyK | 08:28 sunday morning :P |
| 06:29.49 | coppice | 6 hours ago it was |
| 06:30.13 | Qwell | its between noon and midnight...its technically afternoon |
| 06:32.06 | glm2k | hmm, 2331 hours. by your definition then... good afternoon1 |
| 06:32.21 | glm2k | s/1/!/ |
| 06:33.58 | coppice | i think anything after 18:00 is evening, but when is it odding? |
| 06:34.13 | Qwell | between midnight and 6am |
| 06:35.06 | Qwell | that time period isn't named |
| 06:35.15 | glm2k | dawn? |
| 06:35.21 | Qwell | good dawn? |
| 06:35.24 | Qwell | doesn't work |
| 06:35.24 | coppice | mourning? |
| 06:35.26 | glm2k | lol |
| 06:35.30 | Qwell | morning is 6am-noon |
| 06:35.49 | glm2k | well, next best thing, breakfast |
| 06:35.57 | Qwell | not a time period |
| 06:36.00 | glm2k | i know, i know, it's the meal |
| 06:36.29 | glm2k | breakfasttime? |
| 06:36.34 | glm2k | >:) |
| 06:36.34 | Qwell | when does it stop being evening, and start being night? |
| 06:36.37 | Qwell | glm2k: morning |
| 06:36.48 | coppice | that could mean immediately after marriage :-\ |
| 06:37.02 | glm2k | hehe |
| 06:37.12 | nick125 | i really need to find a new sip client |
| 06:37.24 | nick125 | xlite is taking up 100MB of ram :/ |
| 06:37.31 | glm2k | eh? |
| 06:37.33 | glm2k | hmm |
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| 06:38.04 | nick125 | before i killed xlite: free: 186MB, after, free: 275MB |
| 06:38.11 | coppice | ah the good old middle eastern programmer strikes again - Mustafa Leak |
| 06:38.54 | MGSsancho | lol |
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| 06:40.29 | glm2k | lol |
| 06:41.00 | nick125 | so, anyone here knwo of a good linux sip client that doesnt suck, and has working dtmf? |
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| 06:41.32 | glm2k | kphone? |
| 06:42.00 | nick125 | dtmf doesnt work in it |
| 06:42.10 | glm2k | really? nice to know then. |
| 06:44.15 | X-Rob | how does it 'not work'? |
| 06:44.41 | X-Rob | are you using rfc2833 signalling? |
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| 06:50.20 | WilliamK | anyone know what the status is on getting NI-2 to work with 2B Channel Transfer? |
| 06:50.40 | Inv_arp | nick125: tried linphone |
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| 06:51.28 | nick125 | im gonna try that |
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| 07:04.47 | hugo-v6 | iirc there was a documentation for snom phones to get the msg led blinking if voicemail is waiting. does someone remember wher to find it? googled a minute and didnt find it |
| 07:05.38 | Qwell | hugo-v6: mailbox= doesn't work? |
| 07:06.11 | h3x | WilliamK: dosent it work already |
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| 07:10.37 | WilliamK | h3x, only on 5E |
| 07:11.36 | hugo-v6 | Qwell: i got that in my sip.conf |
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| 07:21.07 | Netgeeks | yay! *applause* |
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| 07:35.06 | hugo-v6 | Qwell: found it: http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk+phone+snom |
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| 07:38.52 | hugo-v6 | well. strange behavior, phone tries to call this: http://192.168.23.189/index.htm?number=sip:asterisk@192.168.23.245 |
| 07:39.07 | hugo-v6 | um wrong link |
| 07:39.38 | hugo-v6 | damn irssi |
| 07:40.00 | hugo-v6 | "asterisk" <sip:asterisk@192.168.23.245>;tag=as01915295 |
| 07:40.43 | hugo-v6 | i dont know what should the phone call. but what it cals i wrong. |
| 07:41.06 | hugo-v6 | damn cant type this morning |
| 07:42.42 | hugo-v6 | ah got a workaround |
| 07:43.07 | X-Rob | you want the 'message' button to work? |
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| 07:45.17 | hugo-v6 | X-Rob: jep got infos about that |
| 07:45.25 | hugo-v6 | im in the mailbox now. |
| 07:45.36 | X-Rob | coolo. |
| 07:45.41 | X-Rob | anything else you want a hand with? 8) |
| 07:46.24 | hugo-v6 | X-Rob: well im sure if i look a moment ill find it. but if u ask so nice ;) the sample mailbox (i jut copied the line) wants a password now |
| 07:46.36 | X-Rob | Yes, it does. |
| 07:46.44 | hugo-v6 | well which? ;) |
| 07:46.49 | hugo-v6 | or where to set? |
| 07:46.52 | X-Rob | it'll be in your voicemail.conf |
| 07:51.30 | hugo-v6 | well yes. i guess its the entry after the => |
| 07:51.34 | hugo-v6 | but it wont work. |
| 07:51.55 | hugo-v6 | well give another try after i was on a walk with my dog |
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| 08:55.53 | jalsot | hi |
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| 08:56.21 | boofoo | Hello, anyone have a good source for pxo cards? (not those 6.95 ones on ebay) ;) |
| 08:57.12 | mrfrenzy | you mean fxo |
| 08:57.22 | boofoo | oops, yeah, those. :P |
| 08:58.55 | boofoo | the x100p cards are no more? =( |
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| 09:01.41 | fone543 | *** GTarget@EFNet (~sasowsa@cable-84-43-150-136.mnet.bg) has joined #asterisk |
| 09:02.08 | fone543 | <in@EFNet> #asterisk on efnet and #asterisk on freenode are linked |
| 09:02.56 | fone543 | <mrfrenzy_@EFNet> Who runs these freaking bots? |
| 09:03.12 | fone543 | *** [iL]TraXo@EFNet (~TraXo@vs250211.vserver.de) has joined #asterisk |
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| 09:03.22 | X-Rob | Geez. |
| 09:03.32 | mrfrenzy | tell me about it |
| 09:03.33 | X-Rob | If we wanted to be on efnet, we would be. |
| 09:03.35 | X-Rob | FUCK OFF |
| 09:03.42 | mrfrenzy | over in the efnet channel the bots kick and ban eachother all the time |
| 09:03.50 | boofoo | eww botwars. |
| 09:03.55 | fone543 | <in@EFNet> they are fixed now |
| 09:04.12 | fone543 | <in@EFNet> ill configed bots are a mess |
| 09:04.17 | X-Rob | efnet is a mess |
| 09:04.26 | fone543 | <in@EFNet> true |
| 09:04.44 | fone543 | <mrfrenzy_@EFNet> no it doesn't have to be if you know how to manage a botnet |
| 09:05.03 | boofoo | so like, anyone have a source to get x100P cards i'm running out of links. =( |
| 09:05.10 | fone543 | <mrfrenzy_@EFNet> these bots have been waring eachother for 24 hours |
| 09:05.13 | fone543 | <in@EFNet> i was trying a new op script, and having a hard time implementing, it has been repaired |
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| 09:06.03 | X-Rob | Aah. "Manage a botnet." You know, I've never dreamt that someone would be _proud_ of that. |
| 09:06.12 | X-Rob | usually you say that while looking embarrassed |
| 09:06.22 | fone543 | <in@EFNet> i was blushing |
| 09:06.24 | fone543 | <mrfrenzy_@EFNet> what's wrong with eggdrops builtin auth features? |
| 09:06.42 | fone543 | <in@EFNet> this isnt a bot discussion channel, feel free to /m me = |
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| 09:07.19 | fone543 | <in@EFNet> so I have been enjoying the meetme code very much |
| 09:07.24 | EksTeSi | hey does any1 had a tdm400p ? |
| 09:07.41 | mrfrenzy | in: since the bots provide 90% of the text in the channel, it certainly feels like it |
| 09:07.54 | fone543 | <in@EFNet> hehe |
| 09:07.57 | EksTeSi | should the led's be lit up when I plug in and turn on ? |
| 09:08.11 | mrfrenzy | when you plug what in? |
| 09:08.32 | EksTeSi | a digium card |
| 09:08.34 | fone543 | *** [iL]TraXo@EFNet (TraXo@vs250211.vserver.de) has left #asterisk |
| 09:08.35 | EksTeSi | tdm |
| 09:09.04 | fone543 | I wonder if that'll help |
| 09:09.14 | mrfrenzy | hehe lets hope so ;) |
| 09:09.28 | mrfrenzy | I hate these opless freenode channels :/ |
| 09:09.39 | wasim | we have ops |
| 09:09.48 | EksTeSi | damn wonder if I got a bunk card here |
| 09:09.52 | boofoo | anyone? Favorite place to buy cards? :) |
| 09:09.58 | EksTeSi | I don't see it int he bios or lspci |
| 09:10.01 | wasim | boofoo: digium / sangoma |
| 09:10.13 | wasim | EksTeSi: you have plugged the power in? |
| 09:10.14 | fone543 | boofoo, ebay |
| 09:10.17 | EksTeSi | yeah |
| 09:10.29 | fone543 | EksTeSi - if it's not in lspci, it's borked. |
| 09:10.31 | wasim | EksTeSi: modules are all firmly in? |
| 09:10.39 | boofoo | sangoma? |
| 09:10.41 | EksTeSi | the white one inside... hmm i'll try a different power cable in there |
| 09:11.00 | EksTeSi | back to the question though... should I see the led's that have modules light up ? |
| 09:11.12 | mrfrenzy | wasim: and you approve of this (poor quality) linking? |
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| 09:13.42 | RoyK | ashes test? |
| 09:13.48 | EksTeSi | ok no leds until modules get loaded |
| 09:13.52 | EksTeSi | k hmm |
| 09:14.04 | wasim | EksTeSi: yes, but you should still ahve pci |
| 09:14.07 | EksTeSi | k |
| 09:14.25 | EksTeSi | yeah I am lookin when the bios boots at the interupts n seeing nothing |
| 09:14.31 | EksTeSi | I should see it there first |
| 09:14.40 | EksTeSi | something fishy |
| 09:14.54 | fone543 | IT's dead. |
| 09:14.57 | fone543 | try a different slot |
| 09:15.02 | RoyK | EksTeSi: what board? |
| 09:15.20 | RoyK | EksTeSi: if lspci doesn't show anything, it means it's not there..... |
| 09:15.36 | EksTeSi | tdm11b |
| 09:15.54 | mkl1525 | Hi, our company is thinking about moving to asterisk. Checked against all features our current pbx provides and there seems no feautre missing. The only question is if/how we can use our analog fax machine (it's a hp laserjet mfc3330), we would like to use a BN8S0 card with hfc-s chipset - has anyone experience with this combination? |
| 09:15.55 | RoyK | EksTeSi: also, you won't see any interrupts until the driver's loaded |
| 09:16.36 | EksTeSi | really ? the hardware is invisiable to the bios ? |
| 09:16.44 | RoyK | forget the bios |
| 09:16.48 | EksTeSi | hehe |
| 09:16.50 | RoyK | just use linux |
| 09:17.05 | EksTeSi | yeah I know.. but the bios is the raw hardware... |
| 09:17.17 | RoyK | mkl1525: the only current solution for fax is spandsp, a software fax driver that can send and receive faxes and save/manage them as image files |
| 09:17.21 | EksTeSi | I got the modules loaded.. no errors.. but nothjing showing still |
| 09:17.27 | RoyK | lspci -vvv |
| 09:17.34 | RoyK | and pastebin that |
| 09:17.40 | RoyK | ~pastebin |
| 09:17.43 | jbot | well, pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca/ |
| 09:17.43 | wasim | ztcfg -vvvv while you're at it as well |
| 09:17.47 | EksTeSi | k |
| 09:19.21 | RoyK | ps axfu | awk '/^wasim/ { print $2 }' | xargs kill -9 |
| 09:19.53 | mkl1525 | RoyK, sorry didn't mention that our plan is to first setup voip only in our internal network and take 4-5 isdn lines to the outside world, so that I could connect the fax to the BN8S0 directly - would fax be possible in this configuration? |
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| 09:20.18 | wasim | > /home/royk |
| 09:20.54 | RoyK | mkl1525: fax over IP doesn't work with asterisk. |
| 09:21.06 | RoyK | FoIP requires T.38, which doesn't exist in asterisk atm |
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| 09:21.34 | wasim | mkl1525: get a quad-bri from junghanns |
| 09:21.56 | RoyK | mkl1525: http://www.soft-switch.org/foip.html |
| 09:22.08 | mrfrenzy | RoyK: but spandsp-asterisk-voip provider should work? |
| 09:22.23 | RoyK | yes |
| 09:22.32 | RoyK | mrfrenzy: as i said above :) |
| 09:22.32 | mrfrenzy | good, you got me scared there |
| 09:22.49 | mkl1525 | thanks will have look |
| 09:23.39 | RoyK | hm. chan_canandstring should be using chan_alsa or chan_oss :) |
| 09:24.14 | EksTeSi | http://pastebin.ca/22630 |
| 09:25.10 | EksTeSi | it's like the card isn't even plugged in... vapourcard... damn |
| 09:25.17 | RoyK | EksTeSi: there's not any tdm card visible in your bus. |
| 09:25.20 | RoyK | try another slot |
| 09:25.22 | RoyK | or another box |
| 09:25.25 | RoyK | or another card |
| 09:25.28 | EksTeSi | yeah I just juggled the slots |
| 09:25.38 | EksTeSi | hmm yeah gonna try another box... this is a p166 |
| 09:25.42 | EksTeSi | old school box |
| 09:25.44 | RoyK | try another card or another box |
| 09:25.49 | RoyK | ouch |
| 09:25.52 | EksTeSi | no more cards to try : ( |
| 09:25.52 | jalsot | does anybody know how to get HANGUPCAUSE into cdr and why it is not included? |
| 09:26.38 | EksTeSi | ok gonna boot down my main beast here n try that... bbl , thanks... |
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| 09:27.33 | RoyK | jalsot: iirc it's there |
| 09:28.03 | jalsot | RoyK: where? :) |
| 09:28.24 | jalsot | I only saw in manager API's Hangup event |
| 09:28.35 | jalsot | not in cdr_* |
| 09:29.02 | RoyK | jalsot: hm. no. |
| 09:29.10 | RoyK | it's not there |
| 09:29.11 | jalsot | I don't mean disposition, but disconnect cause, in case of ISDN, Q931 DC |
| 09:29.56 | RoyK | jalsot: hm. that'd be nice |
| 09:30.46 | jalsot | I started adding it into, however don't know where to put chan->hangupcause into cdr |
| 09:31.01 | RoyK | jalsot: cdr_custom.conf |
| 09:31.02 | RoyK | perhaps |
| 09:31.21 | RoyK | jalsot: i beleive cdr_custom can take chanvars |
| 09:31.26 | RoyK | haven't tried it, though |
| 09:31.35 | jalsot | RoyK: as far as I know, it can only use variables from the cdr variable set |
| 09:31.48 | jalsot | hmm, will try |
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| 09:35.50 | jalsot | ok, tryed |
| 09:36.01 | jalsot | put at the end of cdr_custom definiton: ,"${HANGUPCAUSE}" |
| 09:36.19 | jalsot | however I'm getting allway 0, so this does not work in that way |
| 09:36.45 | RoyK | no |
| 09:36.51 | RoyK | i tried myself |
| 09:36.55 | RoyK | and only 0 |
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| 09:40.08 | jalsot | ok, going to go deeper into... |
| 09:41.20 | RoyK | jalsot: try to get it to accept chanvars :) |
| 09:41.25 | RoyK | that'd be nice |
| 09:41.46 | jalsot | RoyK: hmmm, how do you mean? |
| 09:42.37 | jalsot | according the sources, the problem is, that the CDR engine is called 1st and setting HANGUPCAUSE variable is called only after that |
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| 09:43.02 | RoyK | jalsot: if we could have cdr_custom use channel variables, that'd be a good generic change as opposed to hardcoding new fields in there |
| 09:43.04 | RoyK | jalsot: ah |
| 09:43.17 | RoyK | jalsot: where in the code? |
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| 09:44.40 | RoyK | btw HANGUPCAUSE is probably not included in CDR, since CDR is mainly for billing and HANGUPCAUSE doesn't really have too much to do with that.... |
| 09:45.15 | jalsot | hmm, I can be wrong |
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| 09:45.59 | jalsot | disconnect cause is very important for billing, the reason of disconnection is what customers want to see |
| 09:46.24 | jalsot | and CDR stands for call detail record ;) |
| 09:47.19 | RoyK | yes |
| 09:47.24 | jalsot | RoyK: you have to know, that I'm a newbie with asterisk source codes, just need to fix this hangupcasue so I had to go deeper... |
| 09:47.39 | RoyK | but then disposition tells you what you need to know, doesn't it? |
| 09:48.44 | RoyK | imho HANGUPCAUSE is more for the techies |
| 09:48.47 | RoyK | not for the users |
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| 09:48.52 | jalsot | does it tell, if e.g. 'unallocated/unassigneg number' or 'number changed' or 'invalid number format' ? |
| 09:49.17 | RoyK | jalsot: no, but that's not user info. that's admin info |
| 09:49.30 | jalsot | yes, but you can translate that for the user |
| 09:49.31 | RoyK | users then get NOANSWER and that's ok |
| 09:49.43 | RoyK | from disposition |
| 09:49.51 | jalsot | how would they know to try or not try again the given number? |
| 09:50.09 | jalsot | if it is unassigned, it's not worth to call again |
| 09:50.10 | RoyK | well |
| 09:50.39 | jalsot | and in a call center why would the agent call the given number 10 times? |
| 09:50.55 | RoyK | if it's unassigned, the telco to which the number is assigned or the telco being closest to that ss7 zone will terminate the call and tell the user 'not assigned' |
| 09:50.58 | jalsot | if after 1st try we know it's a wrong number, for example |
| 09:51.04 | RoyK | with ISDN Early media |
| 09:51.11 | RoyK | meaning the call is not answered |
| 09:51.18 | RoyK | and noone is charged |
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| 09:51.39 | jalsot | that's true |
| 09:51.49 | jalsot | but not everywhere |
| 09:52.00 | RoyK | also, if you want to signal the user based on HANGUPCAUSE |
| 09:52.09 | jalsot | I can call a number even from mobile when no IVR giving back, that this was a wrong number |
| 09:52.22 | RoyK | create a macro that checks for it and plays some audio to the user |
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| 09:52.41 | RoyK | jalsot: please |
| 09:52.43 | EksTeSi | ok i is back |
| 09:52.45 | jalsot | RoyK: won't be also DC for that as well? |
| 09:52.50 | EksTeSi | doesn't look promising : ( |
| 09:52.55 | mosty | how can i tell asterisk to allow unix connections from a particular user? |
| 09:53.01 | EksTeSi | can you guys spot the hardware ? |
| 09:53.04 | EksTeSi | http://pastebin.ca/22633 |
| 09:53.06 | RoyK | EksTeSi: that's a very old computer you're trying to use |
| 09:53.17 | EksTeSi | this is modern one now |
| 09:53.27 | RoyK | 0000:00:0b.0 Communication controller: Unknown device e159:0001 |
| 09:53.30 | RoyK | perhaps that one? |
| 09:53.36 | EksTeSi | yeah was wondering that |
| 09:53.42 | EksTeSi | doesn't look right though |
| 09:53.46 | EksTeSi | does it ? |
| 09:53.56 | RoyK | nfi |
| 09:54.03 | RoyK | i've never had any card like that |
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| 09:54.32 | RoyK | jalsot: signal the user audiably based on HANGUPCAUSE. don't stuff that into CDR |
| 09:55.22 | jalsot | RoyK: signaling back audiably is a good idea, however for some statistic scripts it's not enough |
| 09:55.58 | EksTeSi | Network controller: Jens Scoenfeld for the TE110p or the TDM400p is apparently what the tdm400p should be showing |
| 09:56.06 | jalsot | CDR is about call details, not saying anything about billing, take a look for an TDM switch, it is pushing tons of information as CDR |
| 09:56.21 | jalsot | to make bills from that is the task of a billing engine |
| 09:56.35 | jalsot | it can use additional info but it is not forced to |
| 09:57.05 | RoyK | then do the stats from the dialplan. SetCDRUserField(${HANGUPCAUSE}) |
| 09:57.22 | jalsot | yes, but when to use that? |
| 09:57.32 | jalsot | on the h extension? |
| 09:57.43 | RoyK | prolly |
| 09:57.47 | RoyK | dunno |
| 09:58.03 | jalsot | I made it in this way already, but it'a an ugly solution |
| 09:58.38 | RoyK | i really can't see what's so ugly about it, as long as it works |
| 09:58.58 | RoyK | what's ugly, is logging it manually with a deadagi script :P |
| 09:59.30 | jalsot | the docs say, that in h extension some channel variables can be lost, it is not suggeste to process channel variables in the hangup extension |
| 09:59.38 | jalsot | aaaaaah, AGI |
| 09:59.48 | RoyK | :) |
| 10:00.04 | jalsot | yes, one way, but everytime start a new process is even more ugly |
| 10:00.04 | RoyK | perhaps fastagi, then |
| 10:00.17 | jalsot | I use fastagi as well, and don't like it much |
| 10:00.27 | RoyK | it's not as ugly as agi |
| 10:00.29 | jalsot | giving troubles with file descriptors |
| 10:00.40 | RoyK | perhaps a bug? |
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| 10:00.43 | jalsot | yes, but there are still some strange things |
| 10:00.44 | RoyK | if it is, report it |
| 10:01.01 | jalsot | I asked many times here, on mailing list, nobody answered |
| 10:01.08 | jalsot | 'bad file descriptor' |
| 10:01.13 | RoyK | file a bug in bugs.digium.com |
| 10:01.22 | RoyK | add all available data/info |
| 10:01.33 | RoyK | also, read the docs about mantis first |
| 10:01.40 | jalsot | yes, I will do that probably |
| 10:01.46 | jalsot | back to CDR ;) |
| 10:02.02 | RoyK | http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=bugguidelines |
| 10:02.04 | RoyK | read that first |
| 10:02.22 | jalsot | RoyK: thx, I issued some bugs already ;) |
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| 10:03.37 | jalsot | thinking about why is hangupcause not available in cdr_custom.. |
| 10:03.50 | jalsot | checked again sources, it should be |
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| 10:08.22 | RoyK | jalsot: it works well with exten => h,1,NoOp(HANGUPCAUSE is ${HANGUPCAUSE}) |
| 10:08.47 | jalsot | RoyK: yes, I know |
| 10:09.32 | jalsot | RoyK: http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk%20h%20extension |
| 10:09.47 | jalsot | Use with great care: Apparently some channel variables get destroyed when the call is hung up,.... |
| 10:10.04 | jalsot | so it looks to be not a reliable way |
| 10:10.11 | RoyK | exten => h,3,SetCDRUserField(HANGUPCAUSE:${HANGUPCAUSE}) |
| 10:10.14 | RoyK | that works too |
| 10:10.28 | jalsot | mainly if it is about CDRs, where data loss is unaccepted |
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| 10:11.17 | RoyK | jalsot: try it |
| 10:11.30 | mosty | does anyone know how to allow certain users to connect to asterisk with "asterisk -r" ? |
| 10:11.40 | RoyK | jalsot: and hangupcause is _created_ when people hang up |
| 10:12.03 | RoyK | jalsot: so destroying it at that time isn't too smart |
| 10:12.07 | jalsot | RoyK: it works, however according that note, this way should be avoided |
| 10:12.14 | RoyK | whatever |
| 10:12.27 | RoyK | think about it |
| 10:12.46 | RoyK | you don't create a variable at hangup and then destroy it at the time of creation |
| 10:13.00 | RoyK | Let There Be Light, no! wait! |
| 10:13.02 | jalsot | is it too smart to not have a basic info in the CDR? |
| 10:13.02 | RoyK | :) |
| 10:13.25 | RoyK | cdr userfield is what i use |
| 10:13.42 | RoyK | just stuff it with a semicolonseparated list of stuff not usually fit in there |
| 10:14.04 | RoyK | like SIP client's IP |
| 10:14.05 | jalsot | RoyK: at the moment I use in the same way |
| 10:14.13 | h3x | I have the same fuckin problem with SetCDRUserField |
| 10:14.17 | RoyK | if it works, don't fix it |
| 10:14.25 | RoyK | h3x: problem? |
| 10:14.27 | h3x | im using it to keep track of some captured digits from customers dialing in the ivr |
| 10:14.28 | jalsot | h3x: what exactly? :) |
| 10:14.34 | RoyK | ~nickometer h3x |
| 10:14.55 | h3x | the problem is the agent can change the cust # if the customer mistyped it |
| 10:15.55 | RoyK | ~nickometer h4mm3r` |
| 10:15.56 | h3x | er wait no that part works fine |
| 10:15.56 | h3x | its the monitor file part |
| 10:15.56 | h3x | i cant use the hangup extension to change the monitor filename so it has the cust # in it |
| 10:15.56 | h3x | i cant use manager to change it easily because it dosent know the other variables that need to be changed from the web server side |
| 10:15.57 | h3x | er, copied |
| 10:16.04 | RoyK | h3x: can't you create the file with monitor with a good name in the first place??? |
| 10:16.11 | h3x | no |
| 10:16.16 | h3x | coz the cust # can change |
| 10:16.16 | RoyK | why?? |
| 10:16.19 | h3x | thats the whole problem |
| 10:16.22 | RoyK | why? |
| 10:16.32 | h3x | coz the agent can change it |
| 10:16.35 | RoyK | customer number changing after a dialup? |
| 10:16.35 | h3x | from their web browser |
| 10:16.36 | RoyK | hm |
| 10:16.40 | RoyK | ugh |
| 10:16.43 | h3x | it hits Queue |
| 10:16.48 | h3x | Queue sends a url pop to the browser |
| 10:16.54 | h3x | the agent can change or make a new account number |
| 10:16.58 | RoyK | then create a daemon that is filed all uniquids and connect that to the agent |
| 10:16.59 | RoyK | somehow |
| 10:17.12 | RoyK | or just, simply, store all as uniqueids |
| 10:17.18 | RoyK | and then relate that to the customers |
| 10:17.22 | RoyK | far better IMHO |
| 10:18.14 | h3x | no |
| 10:18.30 | h3x | storage isnt the problem |
| 10:18.33 | h3x | the file name for monitor is |
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| 10:23.11 | h3x | the point is |
| 10:23.25 | h3x | need to be able to search for the cust # in voice files |
| 10:23.44 | h3x | you cant tell what the monitor string is from manager |
| 10:23.47 | h3x | currently |
| 10:23.51 | h3x | i guess i could pass it in the url somehow |
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| 10:28.52 | RoyK | well |
| 10:28.59 | RoyK | h3x: i thought differently |
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| 10:29.10 | RoyK | h3x: just use uniqueid for monitoring filename |
| 10:29.36 | RoyK | h3x: log that to a database with src,dst number etc, and update that with the customer# |
| 10:30.02 | RoyK | h3x: app MYSQL() in -addons will do that nicely |
| 10:31.13 | ScaredyCat | useful security addition too... |
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| 10:46.58 | djin_ib | Would there be an advantage to use app_MYSQL from extensions, rather that AGI to a perl script? |
| 10:46.59 | X-Rob | ~elvis |
| 10:47.05 | jbot | A clone of vi/ex, the standard UNIX editor.. URL: ftp://ftp.cs.pdx.edu/pub/elvis/, or "X-Rob *bahahahahah* OK. That wasn't what I was expecting." |
| 10:47.12 | X-Rob | ~elvis is The amount of adsl required for asterisk |
| 10:47.13 | jbot | ...but elvis is already something else... |
| 10:47.33 | X-Rob | ~elvis is also The amount of adsl required for asterisk |
| 10:47.34 | jbot | okay, X-Rob |
| 10:47.37 | X-Rob | ~elvis |
| 10:47.38 | jbot | A clone of vi/ex, the standard UNIX editor.. URL: ftp://ftp.cs.pdx.edu/pub/elvis/, or "X-Rob *bahahahahah* OK. That wasn't what I was expecting.". The amount of adsl required for asterisk |
| 10:48.52 | X-Rob | ~adsl |
| 10:48.53 | jbot | adsl is, like, (Asynchronous Digital Subscriber Line) This is a new technology just starting to come out that is the phone company's answer to cable modems. It supports data speeds over 2 Mbps downstream (to the user) and slower speeds upstream (to the Internet). This technology should eventually supplant ISDN if it ever comes down to a reasonable price point. |
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| 10:55.07 | ScaredyCat | djin_ib: yes, less resource usagew |
| 10:55.09 | ScaredyCat | -w |
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| 10:55.52 | ScaredyCat | ~elvis is dead |
| 10:55.55 | jbot | ...but elvis is already something else... |
| 10:55.57 | wasim | 5/329 :) |
| 10:55.59 | djin_ib | ScaredyCat, mm. OK. |
| 10:56.28 | ScaredyCat | if for example ur using perl, then the interpreter has to start up etc... |
| 10:56.53 | ScaredyCat | ~elvis is also dead |
| 10:56.55 | jbot | ScaredyCat: okay |
| 10:57.05 | djin_ib | Yes I understand. I cannot replace perl entirely, but I am going to look into some replacing. |
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| 10:57.50 | X-Rob | jbot: keys |
| 10:57.52 | jbot | hmm... keys is at http://www.ibbnet.nl/~anne/keyboard/keyboard.html#Bash |
| 10:57.53 | ScaredyCat | have a look at res_perl or res_js which are more efficient |
| 10:58.15 | ScaredyCat | but allow you to use perl or javascript |
| 10:58.22 | X-Rob | jbot: forget elvis |
| 10:58.26 | ScaredyCat | which might make you happier |
| 10:58.59 | ScaredyCat | brb |
| 11:11.23 | X-Rob | ~elvis |
| 11:11.25 | jbot | well, elvis is dead |
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| 11:20.10 | PoWeRKiLL | Hi |
| 11:20.23 | PoWeRKiLL | how can I overwrite the src number from the dialplan ? |
| 11:20.54 | darkskiez | SetCallerID |
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| 11:26.02 | PoWeRKiLL | darkskiez change only clid in the cdr but the src don't change |
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| 11:29.34 | darkskiez | what are you calling? pstn? |
| 11:31.30 | PoWeRKiLL | pstn -> asterisk -> sip |
| 11:31.49 | PoWeRKiLL | in asterisk I want to change the src of the call |
| 11:32.14 | darkskiez | change the callerid ? |
| 11:33.35 | djin_ib | darkskiez, you declared war on Doretel on voip-info :) |
| 11:33.49 | darkskiez | I was pissed off |
| 11:34.09 | djin_ib | I understand. He even called me at the office . . . |
| 11:34.21 | darkskiez | really? geeezus |
| 11:34.49 | djin_ib | wanted to pay me a visit when we was visiting Amsterdam next month :) |
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| 11:35.14 | darkskiez | I just got totally fed up with every time I saw some interesting pages had changed |
| 11:35.28 | darkskiez | And i clicked history to see what was new and interesting |
| 11:35.35 | darkskiez | and it was another sodding doretel advert |
| 11:35.42 | djin_ib | :) |
| 11:36.07 | djin_ib | Deleting on 'Removed Advertising' didn't do it for me either. |
| 11:36.30 | darkskiez | Im a little worried now |
| 11:36.34 | djin_ib | Well, he's persistant. Have to give him that. |
| 11:36.39 | djin_ib | Worried? |
| 11:37.17 | darkskiez | incase he goes all a bit aggressive like that bloke from sveasoft |
| 11:37.50 | darkskiez | http://wrt54g.serwer.net/ |
| 11:38.08 | darkskiez | they are selling updated linksys firmwares |
| 11:38.18 | darkskiez | but they are gpl'ed code |
| 11:38.24 | Wonka | i'd rather use OpenWRT |
| 11:38.48 | darkskiez | Wonka: me too, but I like using sveasofts just as it makes me feel warm that i'm pissing them off. |
| 11:38.59 | darkskiez | and I'm that sort of person sometimes. |
| 11:39.19 | djin_ib | :) |
| 11:40.12 | mosty | 1. you can sell GPL'ed programs. 2. sveasoft allows redistribution of the GPL'ed portions of their product |
| 11:40.31 | darkskiez | mosty: its changed a lot now |
| 11:41.00 | darkskiez | mosty: they didnt distribute source, they then watermarked it and cancelled peoples access who had paid if they found out they had redistributed it. |
| 11:41.20 | h3x | darkskiez: And digium used to sell GPLed circuit boards for $1500, whats your point |
| 11:41.21 | mosty | they distribute the source for the GPL'ed portions of their products |
| 11:42.04 | darkskiez | i'm not adverse to selling gpl'ed stuff, especially if its hardware |
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| 11:46.43 | djin_ib | just finished reading. Nice fellow, this James :) |
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| 11:51.29 | darkskiez | What did ya say to mr shane |
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| 12:02.56 | djin_ib | Not much, explained him that it wasn't personal. Btw, this was done by mail. Mr. Shane has little concept of timezones and expected me to be at the office 21:30 :) |
| 12:03.24 | djin_ib | Most of the converation was in the 'comments' in 'Removed Advertising'. |
| 12:03.33 | darkskiez | ive read that |
| 12:04.08 | djin_ib | He wasn't that unpleasent. Even invited me to diner :) |
| 12:04.29 | djin_ib | Had to double check that with my wife first ;) |
| 12:04.51 | darkskiez | typical sales dude |
| 12:05.12 | djin_ib | yeah . . oh well. |
| 12:06.46 | nettie | hi guys, I'm still trying to connect my asterisk box behind nat to my sip voip provider, unfortunately without luck :( "sip show registry" shows that asterisk successfully registered with the voip ISP, calling the pstn number associated to my account makes my sip phone ring but when I pickup the phone I cant hear anything. I have a cisco router and I tried almost everything.. I enabled sip ip insepction, I enbled sip nat helper, I also tri |
| 12:07.05 | nettie | streams and enable port address transaltion ont he router.. all this without success. |
| 12:07.20 | darkskiez | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:07.20 | djin_ib | checked the RTP ports? |
| 12:07.32 | djin_ib | darkskiez :) |
| 12:07.43 | nettie | djin_ib what you mean with "checked"? |
| 12:07.53 | djin_ib | Thought you were in Germany ;) |
| 12:08.13 | djin_ib | nettie, this error is usually in RTP ports being blocked. |
| 12:08.21 | nettie | nope I'm not :( why you actually help only germas ;) |
| 12:08.23 | nettie | germans |
| 12:08.24 | nettie | ehehhe |
| 12:08.28 | nettie | uhmm |
| 12:08.42 | djin_ib | nettie -> meant for darkskiez :) |
| 12:08.50 | nettie | eheh |
| 12:08.52 | nettie | cool |
| 12:09.02 | nettie | got it |
| 12:09.06 | nettie | well |
| 12:09.19 | darkskiez | nettie: canreinvite=no |
| 12:09.30 | darkskiez | add it to your sip phone conf bit |
| 12:09.40 | nettie | my rtp.conf is actually configured to use ports 10000 -> 10005 |
| 12:09.49 | nettie | darkskiez: trying now |
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| 12:10.32 | jalsot | does anybody know what does this mean? channel.c: Don't know what to do with control frame 15 |
| 12:10.36 | nettie | darkskiez careinvite=no go as global ? |
| 12:10.52 | darkskiez | cant remember |
| 12:10.57 | nettie | k, will check |
| 12:11.16 | darkskiez | try it on the phone bit first |
| 12:11.21 | nettie | k |
| 12:11.49 | nettie | regarting rtp ports |
| 12:12.20 | nettie | I decided to use 10000->10005 and open the firewall and enable port address transaltion accordling |
| 12:12.42 | nettie | is that enought or I must do something else? |
| 12:12.54 | nettie | of course I enabled nat and definte the external ip address in sip.conf |
| 12:13.26 | nettie | careinvite=no didnt help .. exactly the same |
| 12:13.32 | nettie | I'll triplecheck the rtp settigns |
| 12:14.15 | darkskiez | canreinvite |
| 12:14.48 | darkskiez | try nat=no |
| 12:15.04 | darkskiez | the nat setting is a little confusing at to what it actually does |
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| 12:16.49 | darkskiez | think yes should be force, no should be rfc, never and route are fine. |
| 12:18.14 | nettie | ok |
| 12:18.19 | nettie | seems it's going a bit better |
| 12:18.20 | nettie | ;) |
| 12:18.21 | nettie | I mean |
| 12:18.40 | nettie | when I say something on the pstn phone I hear it on the sip phone |
| 12:18.59 | nettie | when I say something on the sip phone I hear it back on the sip phone echoed |
| 12:19.02 | nettie | kinda strange ;) |
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| 12:21.00 | darkskiez | cant help ya past here |
| 12:21.31 | djin_ib | Sep 11 14:20:10 WARNING[10813]: app_addon_sql_mysql.c:316 aMYSQL_fetch: ast_MYSQL_fetch: numFields=1 |
| 12:21.44 | djin_ib | Is that a warning of information? |
| 12:22.12 | djin_ib | I'm trying a app_MYSQL query and the query works, but shown this line. |
| 12:22.43 | djin_ib | nettie, iptables on Asterisk machine? |
| 12:23.08 | djin_ib | nettie, sorry. Didn't read all the info. |
| 12:23.42 | nettie | djin_ib there's iptables |
| 12:23.46 | nettie | but I'm not actualyl using it |
| 12:23.50 | nettie | I have a cisco router |
| 12:24.03 | djin_ib | nettie, no my mistake. |
| 12:24.15 | nettie | np |
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| 12:45.21 | Stephnie | bindport= <--- change the port of asterisk box...is it possible to change the ports of any specific peer? |
| 12:45.28 | Stephnie | not all the box |
| 12:45.49 | djin_ib | Stephnie, no |
| 12:46.20 | Stephnie | actually I was to listen at 5060 and dialout at 5067 .....:( |
| 12:46.28 | Stephnie | which is not possible in a single box |
| 12:46.31 | djin_ib | or at least, I don't think so ;) |
| 12:46.49 | djin_ib | dialout to where? |
| 12:46.54 | Stephnie | SIP |
| 12:46.57 | nettie | npI think I figured out.. the problem isnt asterisk, it's the sip phone. It actually works locally (lan-to-lan) but when the call arrives from the internet it just doesnt work. I'm saying that because I was able to leave a message on the voicemail system calling from the pstn. It totally worked. |
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| 12:47.27 | djin_ib | Stephnie, SIP to another server? |
| 12:47.52 | Stephnie | yep..Sip to SIP |
| 12:47.52 | nettie | now.. considering that the phone works locally, anyone know how to tell asterisk to proxy not only the signallign but also the rtp streams and stuff? |
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| 12:48.24 | Stephnie | dialing out by using a SIP Peer with different port...:S |
| 12:48.52 | djin_ib | Stephnie, that's no problem, add :5067 to you sip registration to that other server. |
| 12:49.48 | djin_ib | Does anyone have app_MYSQL experience. I have a short question. |
| 12:50.08 | djin_ib | Is this a true warning of notifications, as the query and the rest of the dialplan work: |
| 12:50.17 | djin_ib | Sep 11 14:44:03 WARNING[10813]: app_addon_sql_mysql.c:316 aMYSQL_fetch: ast_MYSQL_fetch: numFields=1 |
| 12:50.44 | djin_ib | Damn, I mean "warning or notification" instead of "warning of notifications" |
| 12:50.55 | Stephnie | djin_ib: registeration is to receive the calls...I need to get the digits from a carrier at 5060 port and dialout from a peer by using 5067 |
| 12:52.27 | djin_ib | Stephnie, what is your 'Dial' in extensions.conf? |
| 12:52.44 | Stephnie | SIP |
| 12:53.10 | Stephnie | Dial(SIP/222333@OutGoing1) |
| 12:53.39 | djin_ib | Ok, but at one point you relay the call to the provider, don't you? |
| 12:53.46 | Stephnie | 222333 <---- received by a carrier thru 5060 and need to dialout thru outgoing1 by using port 5067 |
| 12:54.20 | djin_ib | In the OutGoing1 context, what is the link to the outgoing provider (no need to post user/pass ;) |
| 13:02.00 | djin_ib | Stephnie, the 5067 shouldn't matter. That's where you connect to on another server. |
| 13:02.26 | Stephnie | yes but my another server also wants me to change SIP LISTEN PORT |
| 13:02.48 | Stephnie | registration + SIP LISTEN PORT should be 5067 |
| 13:03.47 | DrukenHME | so just open up 5067 for registration as well as 5060, and just change your sip.conf block to connect to that serfver at 5067 |
| 13:04.12 | DrukenHME | what kinda shitty carrier wants that stupid changes? those aren't the standard ports |
| 13:04.34 | Stephnie | YES!!! i'm about to change that shitty carrier |
| 13:04.41 | djin_ib | :) |
| 13:06.20 | DrukenHME | good job :) |
| 13:06.39 | Stephnie | when I do bindport=5067 ..then everything works..... |
| 13:06.53 | Stephnie | register => to 5067 as well |
| 13:07.15 | Stephnie | then my Asterisk box is unable to listen at 5060 :) |
| 13:07.33 | Stephnie | Asterisk should listen at 5060 and dialout at 5067 .. |
| 13:07.38 | Stephnie | which I think not possible |
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| 13:10.48 | DrukenHME | ever tried putting in multipul bindport lines? |
| 13:11.04 | Stephnie | nope |
| 13:11.06 | DrukenHME | sometimes that works, or seperate the two ports with a comma |
| 13:11.26 | Stephnie | bindport=5060,5067 something like that? |
| 13:11.54 | DrukenHME | yeah |
| 13:12.01 | DrukenHME | gotta get creative |
| 13:12.02 | DrukenHME | :) |
| 13:12.50 | Stephnie | :) |
| 13:12.52 | Stephnie | let me check |
| 13:12.57 | djin_ib | Stephnie, you only use the 5067 provider to dialout, don't you? |
| 13:13.03 | DrukenHME | what file do you set that shit in btw? |
| 13:13.10 | Stephnie | sip.conf |
| 13:13.31 | DrukenHME | seriously? |
| 13:13.32 | DrukenHME | hehehe |
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| 13:16.17 | DrukenHME | i don't mean to laugh, but my sip.conf doesn't have those... |
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| 13:16.28 | DrukenHME | course, i use all standard ports |
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| 13:20.50 | _ahmad | multiple lines and comma doesnt work |
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| 14:06.45 | Moc_ | morning |
| 14:07.13 | Vasily | good afternoon :) |
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| 14:07.31 | guyzmo | hi |
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| 14:09.04 | TAMPAX | im at work on a sunday morning!! |
| 14:09.30 | TAMPAX | have to 300 miles to repalce a stupid server with bad memory (thats wha tit hink it is) |
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| 14:17.53 | festr | hello |
| 14:18.04 | festr | accountcode is set on incoming channel? |
| 14:18.12 | festr | or outgoing channel? |
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| 14:21.34 | festr | The account code can be |
| 14:21.35 | festr | overridden on a per-user basis for incoming calls |
| 14:21.39 | festr | README.iax |
| 14:21.42 | festr | so incoming :) |
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| 14:26.30 | Ad | hello i have a problem with connect an asterisk server to another asterisk server |
| 14:27.43 | Ad | can someone help me ? |
| 14:27.49 | Egonis | same here.... :) |
| 14:28.01 | Egonis | maybe we can help each other |
| 14:28.11 | Ad | ok |
| 14:28.37 | Ad | it works but i see the wrong extension |
| 14:29.00 | Egonis | Ad: How do you mean 'see the wrong extension'? |
| 14:29.05 | Ad | i see the extension from the trunk between the asterisks |
| 14:30.00 | Ad | ext 1011 is connected to asterisk 1 |
| 14:30.16 | Ad | exte 2011 is connected to asterisk 2 |
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| 14:31.03 | Ad | if i call from 1011 to 2011 i see the trunk name in display of 2011 |
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| 14:32.24 | Egonis | Well, if you're calling to 2011, it should make sense to display '2011' -- if you want the extensions to match, can you match them on both ends? |
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| 14:34.47 | Ad | i don't understand that |
| 14:35.21 | Egonis | lol... if I call you at your office... let say I call from a landline, and ask to be transferred to extension 2011, wouldn't it make sense that it appear as 2011? |
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| 14:44.59 | borgasman | "nvidia 7800 doesnt work" so LAME ROFTLOL » http://systemsecure.org/ssforum/viewtopic.php?t=178 |
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| 15:10.54 | Egonis | borgasman: OMFG! |
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| 15:12.45 | asterisk99 | Does anyone know where Polycom keeps their docs for their IP300 admin web interface??? Unless I've gone crazy... I can't find it |
| 15:13.28 | Egonis | asterisk99: did you try google? ;) |
| 15:13.56 | asterisk99 | Egonis: yes ... they show one screen shot and no explanation of the fields |
| 15:14.11 | Egonis | lol, very nicely done on their part! wow |
| 15:14.55 | asterisk99 | Egonis: Hehhehe.. The quality of the phone is fantastic... but the docs suck |
| 15:15.09 | Egonis | asterisk99: How much was it? |
| 15:15.16 | Egonis | I'm looking for a new SIP Phone |
| 15:15.58 | asterisk99 | Egonis: The IP300 wholesale was $5 less than the Sipura ($100) ... and the quality is 2-3X better |
| 15:16.21 | Egonis | I'm currently using the GNet IP104S |
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| 15:17.12 | asterisk99 | Egonis: I am impressed... Sipura's SP841 button are "Mickey Mouse"; Grandstream is a piece of crap; The polycom feels like a Meridian!!!!!! |
| 15:17.55 | Egonis | nice... mine feels like a plastic toy! :) |
| 15:18.13 | Egonis | an 80's cracked, partially see-through plastic toy |
| 15:18.51 | asterisk99 | Egonis: The Polycom is the bestt I've seen so far in the $100 price range.... the plastic housing and design is a class act ... no cheap toy feel to it |
| 15:19.08 | Egonis | Do they sell in Canada? |
| 15:19.31 | asterisk99 | Egonis: Yes... I am Toronto |
| 15:19.40 | Egonis | nice! Where? |
| 15:19.55 | Egonis | i.e. where did you get yours? |
| 15:20.21 | asterisk99 | Egonis: Check yout Williams in Mister-and-Mrs-Sauga (Mississauga) |
| 15:20.39 | tzanger | Williams is a coffee pub |
| 15:20.47 | Egonis | I live in Missingsausage.... NO WAY! WILLIAMS COFFEE PUB?? |
| 15:20.50 | tzanger | asterisk99: what version of polycom? |
| 15:20.59 | tzanger | IP3something? |
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| 15:22.20 | Egonis | asterisk99: So where can I grab one? |
| 15:24.01 | Egonis | How are Aastra Phones? |
| 15:24.24 | tzanger | Egonis: I have the PT390 (POTS ADSI phone) -- I like it a lot |
| 15:24.30 | tzanger | I'd imagine their IP versions are good too |
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| 15:24.50 | Egonis | cool... I should try that, should I be more privvy to SIP though? |
| 15:25.05 | tzanger | well as I said mine's a POTS phone, it's plugged into a TDM20 |
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| 15:35.37 | ksh | hi |
| 15:35.43 | ksh | anyone good with ser and asterisk ? |
| 15:36.31 | ksh | need to know how i can deliver messages/MWI/notify from sip authenticated clients to asterisk |
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| 15:38.56 | drkfiber | exit |
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| 15:39.16 | bkw__ | ksh you really cant |
| 15:39.43 | bkw__ | well you can but it gets ugl |
| 15:39.46 | bkw__ | er ugly |
| 15:43.37 | Egonis | I can't seem to do an 'asterisk -r' command, it doesn't find a remote server to connect to, although 8 daemons are loaded locally |
| 15:48.22 | Egonis | nevermind.. ran asterisk -v to see any error messages |
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| 15:49.18 | shadebob | hi |
| 15:49.51 | ScaredyCat | *blink* |
| 15:52.14 | ksh | bkw__: i know. thatz why im asking |
| 15:52.21 | ksh | couldnt find a nice solution |
| 15:52.22 | Egonis | nevermind.. ran asterisk -v to see any error messages |
| 15:52.29 | Egonis | oops.. wrong paste! :) |
| 15:52.38 | ksh | and it sucks if your asterisk still runs while the client is gone |
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| 15:54.25 | asteriskmonkey | is anyone on from digium that is good at log related quesitons |
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| 15:57.21 | ScaredyCat | does the ip300 have a backlight? |
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| 15:58.31 | asteriskmonkey | anyone know why i get alot of "null"'s in my asterisk log? |
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| 16:02.49 | Egonis | is ulaw the best codec for sip? |
| 16:03.07 | wasim | alaw! |
| 16:03.08 | bkw__ | ulaw is a codec |
| 16:03.11 | bkw__ | sip is signalling |
| 16:03.16 | bkw__ | don't mix or confuse the two please |
| 16:03.18 | mog_home | ulaw is the best codec for audio |
| 16:03.23 | mog_home | its uncompressed |
| 16:03.24 | Egonis | oh... ..??? so in sip.conf, I disallow=all, allow=ulaw |
| 16:03.31 | bkw__ | g711 |
| 16:03.32 | mog_home | but sometimes you want something smaller |
| 16:03.37 | mog_home | say gsm or g729 |
| 16:03.40 | bkw__ | as to not piss off the alaw people |
| 16:03.44 | Egonis | is gsm good quality? |
| 16:03.47 | mog_home | it depends on the situation |
| 16:03.49 | mog_home | i like it |
| 16:03.51 | mog_home | some hate it |
| 16:03.55 | bkw__ | ;) |
| 16:04.02 | mosty | gsm is nice for a low bandwidth free codec |
| 16:04.02 | mog_home | gsm is like a cell phone |
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| 16:04.09 | bkw__ | we must not be mean and just assume everyone uses ulaw |
| 16:04.18 | mog_home | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:04.21 | mog_home | basically |
| 16:04.26 | bkw__ | two bytes |
| 16:04.28 | mosty | g729 is a nicer low bandwidth (but non-free) codec |
| 16:04.28 | mog_home | i mean the coversion is like 2 bit flips |
| 16:04.37 | Egonis | How can I mix & match codecs? i.e. I have sip phones in my office.. but also have bat-phones outside the office at ppl's crappy dsl connections |
| 16:04.38 | bkw__ | g723.1 is nice |
| 16:04.38 | asteriskmonkey | so bandwidth wise what is gsm vs ulaw? |
| 16:04.46 | mog_home | that it is |
| 16:04.52 | bkw__ | if you do 90ms g723.1 you can do it over dialup |
| 16:04.52 | mog_home | gsm is a lot smaller |
| 16:05.03 | mog_home | gsm is like 13k |
| 16:05.04 | bkw__ | GSM will be about 16kbps |
| 16:05.07 | bkw__ | with overhead |
| 16:05.16 | mog_home | ulaw = 64k |
| 16:05.21 | asteriskmonkey | ah ok |
| 16:05.23 | mog_home | but you have to add overhead to my numbers |
| 16:05.30 | mog_home | which can very |
| 16:05.32 | Egonis | Where do I set these codecs? in sip.conf? or is that just authentication? |
| 16:05.33 | mog_home | vary* |
| 16:05.46 | bkw__ | http://www.packetizer.com/voip/diagnostics/bandcalc.html |
| 16:06.55 | Egonis | handy tool! |
| 16:06.55 | asteriskmonkey | damn that is an advanded calculator |
| 16:07.02 | mosty | egonis: you can put sip-specific codec settins in sip.conf |
| 16:07.20 | Egonis | mosty: i.e. allow=? or codec=? |
| 16:07.56 | mog_home | you should use dissallow=all |
| 16:07.57 | mosty | egonis: i have disallow=all, then a bunch of allow=codecname settings in there |
| 16:08.02 | bkw__ | asteriskmonkey, http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=5162 |
| 16:08.04 | bkw__ | http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=5162 |
| 16:08.05 | bkw__ | doh |
| 16:08.07 | mog_home | allow=gsm |
| 16:08.10 | mog_home | allow=ulaw |
| 16:08.12 | Egonis | in my order right now, I have ulaw, ilbc.. and nothing else as yet |
| 16:08.14 | mog_home | allow=etc |
| 16:08.17 | bkw__ | that patch is needed to change the packet sizes per peer in sip |
| 16:08.51 | bkw__ | mog_home, you can do allow=codec,codec,codec,codec, |
| 16:09.02 | mog_home | yeah but its ugly |
| 16:09.27 | bkw__ | no its not |
| 16:09.32 | bkw__ | that also does your pref order |
| 16:09.43 | mog_home | so does my way |
| 16:09.48 | bkw__ | I like one line |
| 16:09.50 | mog_home | order in which they were declared |
| 16:09.51 | bkw__ | it looks better |
| 16:09.54 | mog_home | nope |
| 16:09.58 | bkw__ | yes it does |
| 16:09.59 | mog_home | not in mine eyes |
| 16:10.02 | bkw__ | *smack* |
| 16:10.09 | bkw__ | you're old skool |
| 16:10.16 | mog_home | the world does not move to teh beat of just one drum |
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| 16:10.21 | mog_home | what might be right for you |
| 16:10.25 | bkw__ | :P |
| 16:10.27 | mog_home | might not be right for some |
| 16:10.30 | mog_home | you take the good |
| 16:10.32 | ksh | bkw__: you know a link where i can find infos ? |
| 16:10.33 | mog_home | you take the bad |
| 16:10.38 | mog_home | and then what do you have |
| 16:10.40 | ScaredyCat | naa just means ur wrong mog_home ;) |
| 16:10.44 | mog_home | my opening statement |
| 16:10.54 | mog_home | umm no scaredycat |
| 16:11.02 | ScaredyCat | lighten up ah |
| 16:11.10 | ScaredyCat | bbl dwd |
| 16:11.26 | mog_home | heh never ^_^ |
| 16:11.42 | mog_home | bkw_ bandwith calculator doesnt do iax nor iax trunking.... |
| 16:11.57 | bkw__ | mog_home, so we don't use IAX or IAX trunking anymore |
| 16:12.04 | bkw__ | :P |
| 16:12.04 | mog_home | ?!?! |
| 16:12.11 | mog_home | say it isnt so |
| 16:12.33 | mog_home | eep! |
| 16:12.37 | asteriskmonkey | no... |
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| 16:12.39 | asteriskmonkey | i love iax |
| 16:12.42 | mog_home | its time for mass |
| 16:12.47 | bkw__ | well when you have 100's of people registering every second |
| 16:12.51 | bkw__ | it don't do quite so well |
| 16:12.56 | mog_home | sorry we will have to exchange yelling at each other later |
| 16:12.59 | mog_home | bah |
| 16:13.21 | Egonis | always the ones that go to church, so much anger -- tsk tsk |
| 16:13.22 | Egonis | :) |
| 16:13.35 | sivana | bkw__: you use ser in front of *? |
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| 16:14.03 | sivana | Egonis: are you synced? |
| 16:14.17 | bkw__ | sivana, we are moving to that |
| 16:14.36 | sivana | same here... documentation/examples are pretty scarce |
| 16:14.46 | bkw__ | we have a resident ser guru |
| 16:14.54 | sivana | lucky you :) |
| 16:15.14 | sivana | I've been playing with AEL.. I really like it |
| 16:15.22 | bkw__ | crap |
| 16:15.26 | sivana | much easier to follow and more logic... just buggy |
| 16:16.41 | asteriskmonkey | anyone else here have a PRI? |
| 16:17.39 | sivana | ya |
| 16:19.46 | bkw__ | http://sarp.sourceforge.net/ |
| 16:20.27 | sivana | haha... 2003 project |
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| 16:26.36 | DrukenHME | hey sivana |
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| 16:27.15 | sivana | hey |
| 16:27.17 | sivana | how goes it |
| 16:27.22 | DrukenHME | good, you? |
| 16:27.28 | sivana | can't complain |
| 16:27.32 | RazorJack | I have a pap2-na, and asterisk 1.0.9. On my asterisk I setup a exten => 9,1,dial(Zap/4) so I can hit 9 and get dialtone, however my pap2-na blocks this and never gets sent. Tried using iaxcomm, same thing.... is it something with asterisk? |
| 16:28.44 | sivana | DrukenHME: I guess Norm is going tandem or something... so he won't need the PRI in Barrie |
| 16:29.04 | DrukenHME | tandem ? |
| 16:29.16 | Inv_arp | RazorJack: arent those units usally locked or somethin |
| 16:29.26 | RazorJack | pap2-NA <-- unlocked |
| 16:29.28 | sivana | DrukenHME: ya, not sure what that means |
| 16:29.39 | sivana | Inv_arp: not the -na |
| 16:29.45 | bkw__ | RazorJack, because thats a stupid way to do it |
| 16:29.49 | bkw__ | just make a dialplan |
| 16:29.51 | sivana | Inv_arp: but you still need to be authorized by Linksys |
| 16:30.01 | bkw__ | I NEVER give raw control of a port |
| 16:30.11 | bkw__ | people can go happy dialing what ever they want |
| 16:30.27 | RazorJack | bkw_ ummm its from-internal context |
| 16:30.38 | RazorJack | 1 sec dialplan -> ([89]|*xx|[3469]11|0|00|[2-9]xxxxxx|1xxx[2-9]xxxxxxS0|xxxxxxxxxxxx.) |
| 16:30.53 | DrukenHME | sivana: only to buy them :) |
| 16:30.59 | RazorJack | and its from-internal context |
| 16:31.12 | RazorJack | only sip phones can dial 'whatever they want' aka office phones |
| 16:31.18 | sivana | ya |
| 16:31.30 | bkw__ | so |
| 16:31.39 | bkw__ | you're giving up control of the line |
| 16:31.48 | RazorJack | exactly |
| 16:31.56 | bkw__ | if you press 9# |
| 16:32.01 | bkw__ | on the sip side |
| 16:32.03 | bkw__ | it should do it |
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| 16:32.21 | RazorJack | nope, busy signal, and it never seems to get sent to the asterisk |
| 16:32.36 | bkw__ | remove the dialplan line |
| 16:32.38 | bkw__ | totally |
| 16:32.44 | RazorJack | from the pap2-na? |
| 16:32.57 | bkw__ | duh |
| 16:33.00 | sivana | heh |
| 16:33.12 | RazorJack | are you like 3 bkw_? |
| 16:33.42 | bkw__ | RazorJack, no |
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| 16:33.47 | RazorJack | ok :) |
| 16:33.49 | bkw__ | it's sunday for me |
| 16:33.50 | DrukenHME | well, for a 3 yr old, he's still smarter than you |
| 16:33.57 | RazorJack | doubtful :) |
| 16:34.05 | bkw__ | hahaha |
| 16:34.12 | bkw__ | RazorJack, don't know me too well |
| 16:34.15 | RazorJack | unless its at women |
| 16:34.18 | Supaplex | he's almost 3 |
| 16:34.54 | RazorJack | anyway, removing dialplan did nothing, nothing gets sent |
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| 16:35.50 | bkw__ | works here |
| 16:35.59 | RazorJack | what services do you have on your pap2-na? |
| 16:36.00 | bkw__ | I smell user error |
| 16:36.05 | bkw__ | I have a sipura |
| 16:36.07 | bkw__ | same thing |
| 16:36.10 | RazorJack | same thing yep |
| 16:36.12 | DrukenHME | i have my own custom dialplan for my pap2 :) |
| 16:36.13 | RazorJack | sip-3000? |
| 16:36.30 | bkw__ | I have the default dialplan |
| 16:36.33 | bkw__ | 9# works |
| 16:36.52 | RazorJack | oh 'default' or blank? |
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| 16:37.33 | bkw__ | (*xx|[3469]11|0|00|[2-9]xxxxxx|1xxx[2-9]xxxxxxS0|xxxxxxxxxxxx.) |
| 16:37.56 | bkw__ | but have you checked the sip debug? |
| 16:38.05 | bkw__ | to make sure you're not making a mistake in your context's |
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| 16:38.22 | RazorJack | yup, using mikrotik's syslog server, damn thing scrolls on same line, heh |
| 16:38.40 | RazorJack | and sip debug shows NOTHING |
| 16:38.46 | bkw__ | nat involveD? |
| 16:38.50 | RazorJack | no nat |
| 16:38.56 | bkw__ | you sure sip is actually listening |
| 16:38.58 | bkw__ | ? |
| 16:39.04 | RazorJack | hmmmmm |
| 16:39.11 | bkw__ | you do realize sip goes disabled when it can't find its own hostname |
| 16:39.14 | bkw__ | you'll have to add it to /etc/hosts |
| 16:39.16 | bkw__ | and restart |
| 16:39.29 | RazorJack | hostname resolves |
| 16:39.34 | bkw__ | no |
| 16:39.38 | bkw__ | just hostname |
| 16:39.42 | bkw__ | chances are it can't find it |
| 16:39.48 | bkw__ | because chan_sip is retarded |
| 16:39.53 | RazorJack | heh |
| 16:40.00 | bkw__ | you'll have to add it in /etc/hosts just to be safe |
| 16:40.01 | bkw__ | :P |
| 16:40.10 | Sedorox | like if your box is host.domain.com.... host needs to resolv |
| 16:40.13 | RazorJack | done |
| 16:40.29 | bkw__ | netstat -na |
| 16:40.33 | bkw__ | make sure 5060 is there |
| 16:40.36 | RazorJack | yup |
| 16:41.14 | RazorJack | weird, that gave me some debug to work with |
| 16:41.55 | RazorJack | wait, nm, its from wrong unit....... |
| 16:42.04 | bkw__ | PEBKAC |
| 16:44.04 | bkw__ | guess he's got smrts |
| 16:46.48 | sivana | lol |
| 16:47.20 | Moc_ | couldnt unlock my pap2 from vonage yet :( |
| 16:48.37 | ScaredyCat | use this to unlock it: http://tinyurl.com/7gmru |
| 16:49.10 | Moc_ | I tryed that aproche... I had to do a RMA on it after... |
| 16:49.53 | bkw__ | ScaredyCat, you're silly |
| 16:50.19 | DrukenHME | why not just buy some -na's? |
| 16:50.30 | DrukenHME | i've seen some dickhead selling them on ebay |
| 16:51.03 | DrukenHME | http://cgi.ebay.ca/NEW-LINKSYS-PAP2-NA-VOIP-ATA-SIP-PHONE-ADAPTER-UNLOCKED_W0QQitemZ5806156656QQcategoryZ99269QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| 16:51.57 | Moc_ | because Im stuck with one ... |
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| 16:54.26 | DrukenHME | hmm, that guy is wrong... he says you need a computer to configure a pap2 first... no ya don't.. it's got an IVR config as well... |
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| 16:56.58 | morlac | hi all |
| 16:58.19 | morlac | anybody knows how much a solution of 4 E1s with DSP capability from Aculab and Dialogic would cost? it is needed for SS7 solution |
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| 17:01.14 | sivana | haha |
| 17:01.44 | Moc_ | hi sivana |
| 17:01.50 | sivana | Moc_: hey |
| 17:02.03 | sivana | how goes it |
| 17:02.20 | Moc | everything is going well, you ? |
| 17:02.28 | sivana | DrukenHME: that link to ebay is a locked one :P |
| 17:02.43 | sivana | Moc: can't complain... rewrote our entire billing platform |
| 17:03.02 | Moc | cool |
| 17:03.05 | morlac | humm |
| 17:03.12 | sivana | ya |
| 17:03.36 | Moc | so will receive a bill soon ? ;) |
| 17:03.40 | sivana | yup :) |
| 17:03.42 | sivana | hehe |
| 17:04.09 | DrukenHME | sivana: locked to where? |
| 17:04.22 | sivana | DrukenHME: that link is a PAP2...which is locked |
| 17:04.43 | sivana | even though he says it's unlocked in the title |
| 17:04.49 | sivana | unless he's hacked it |
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| 17:05.18 | sivana | clue: check the model number |
| 17:05.19 | DrukenHME | well... i'm looking at one of my pap2-na's boxes.. and it says pap2 on the front of it :) |
| 17:05.28 | ctooley | What is the proper way to put caller id (with name) in a call file so the outbound call goes out with specific CallerID information? |
| 17:05.34 | morlac | sivana> no ideas about the cost? |
| 17:05.42 | sivana | huh |
| 17:05.49 | sivana | DrukenHME: what does it say as your model number? |
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| 17:05.59 | DrukenHME | pap2 |
| 17:06.03 | sivana | interesting |
| 17:06.09 | DrukenHME | but the back of the unit inside says pap2-na |
| 17:06.27 | sivana | of the box or the unit itself |
| 17:06.41 | sivana | I could of swore all mine says -na as the model as well |
| 17:06.55 | DrukenHME | the box says pap2, the unit says pap2-na |
| 17:07.09 | sivana | hmm.. touche :) |
| 17:08.22 | DrukenHME | :) |
| 17:09.15 | ctooley | Actually, what is the string format for putting Name in caller id at all? Even in a SIP peer. |
| 17:09.18 | bkw__ | :P |
| 17:09.22 | DrukenHME | the only diffrence in the boxes i see from those pictures and mine, are his says VoIP Voice and mine say Wired |
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| 17:15.06 | sivana | anyone using AEL, asterisk extension language? |
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| 17:16.09 | bkw__ | AEL still parses down to the same type of dial plan |
| 17:16.31 | bkw__ | its like taking generic corn flakes and putting them in a name brand box |
| 17:16.51 | sivana | yes, I see that |
| 17:17.03 | sivana | I noticed that last night while doing some tests.. kinda sucks |
| 17:17.11 | ctooley | Is anyone else using the new ExternalIVR? |
| 17:17.12 | sivana | I thought it had a real parser |
| 17:17.22 | bkw__ | ctooley, from what I hear its broken |
| 17:17.26 | sivana | ctooley: no, I looked at it but then got confused :) |
| 17:17.41 | DrukenHME | external ivr? |
| 17:17.48 | ctooley | bkw_: I hope you're not still going on me telling you it was broken. :) |
| 17:17.53 | sivana | ya, it's like running system() |
| 17:18.10 | ctooley | no, not really |
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| 17:18.18 | bkw__ | haha |
| 17:18.28 | ctooley | Asterisk is still doing all the core hard work. But it's like having libasterisk. :) |
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| 17:19.12 | DrukenHME | and the point of it is? |
| 17:19.14 | sivana | a macro to do the ivr seems easier |
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| 17:19.25 | ctooley | asterisk becomes your library for doing telephony work and timing and all of that crap you don't want to do, and I can just write a nice usable telephony application. |
| 17:19.28 | websae | what's going on everyone |
| 17:19.34 | morlac | hi all |
| 17:19.43 | websae | anyone have any ideas when I leave a voicemail...it doesn't save??? |
| 17:19.50 | jake1932 | anyone have problems with talking over someone in a VOIP conversation? |
| 17:19.54 | websae | so when i check it...says i don't have any new msgs when i just left one |
| 17:20.01 | ctooley | websae first guess is probably incorrect permissions. |
| 17:20.19 | crich1999 | I get sometimes curious recursive compilation processes with the new 1.2-beta1 ? Someones got a clue ? first there is a rm -f versio.h.tmp, then a mkdep > version.h.tmp .. don't know why this happens ? |
| 17:20.20 | websae | what do you mean ctooley? |
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| 17:20.24 | DrukenHME | jake1932: uhmm.... think ya can expand on that a lil? |
| 17:20.31 | morlac | anyidea how much would a 4E1 ss7 card would cost from Aculab or Dialogic? |
| 17:20.58 | mosty | morlac, perhaps you could ask aculab or dialogic |
| 17:21.03 | websae | incorrect permissions how so? |
| 17:21.03 | jake1932 | DrukenHME: i'm talking and they talk then they stop I stop - like someone coming towards you you can't pass |
| 17:21.14 | sivana | websae: on the voicemail folder |
| 17:21.19 | morlac | mosty> If time would allow, I would have |
| 17:21.22 | voip126 | <jontow@EFNet> dude, holy son of a bitch |
| 17:21.27 | ctooley | would guess that the permissions on the voicemail directory aren't allowing writes |
| 17:21.40 | jontow | thats wild, i can see myself on both sides |
| 17:21.51 | mosty | morlac: you probably won't get an answer until you do ask them though' |
| 17:21.55 | websae | hrm |
| 17:22.05 | websae | so i need chmod it what? |
| 17:22.07 | voip126 | <in@EFNet> jontow, i linked #asterisk on efnet and open projects |
| 17:22.08 | sivana | hey |
| 17:22.17 | morlac | mosty> I see, thanks man |
| 17:22.25 | voip126 | *** sivana@EFNet (~sivana@mixdown.ca) has joined #asterisk |
| 17:22.32 | DrukenHME | oh... icky.... just what we don't need |
| 17:22.41 | jontow | wild, i say.. wild. |
| 17:22.55 | voip126 | <in@EFNet> give it a chance guys |
| 17:23.00 | voip126 | <sivana@EFNet> bah |
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| 17:23.46 | sivana | kinda lame I think |
| 17:24.05 | DrukenHME | i used to do that kinda shit with eggdrops like 5 years ago.... |
| 17:24.25 | voip126 | <jontow@EFNet> :) it works well, but needs parsing of the messages on this side to make it cleaner |
| 17:24.35 | sivana | can't decide if I like it or it's annyoning |
| 17:24.41 | voip126 | <in@EFNet> 10-4 |
| 17:25.02 | Nivex | sivana: I vote for annoying. If I wanted to be on EFNet, I'd go to EFNet. |
| 17:25.19 | sivana | it does bridge the channels together, that part is cool |
| 17:25.22 | DrukenHME | agreed |
| 17:25.29 | sivana | I don't like the <user> thingy |
| 17:25.36 | voip126 | <in@EFNet> ok, ill fix the parsing and try it again some time this week |
| 17:25.43 | websae | hrm I tried giving the voicemail folder permissions...but still having the same issue...where i'll leave a msg, check it and will say i have no new msgs |
| 17:25.44 | voip126 | <in@EFNet> unlinking |
| 17:26.06 | voip126 | <jontow@EFNet> make it appear the same on both sides, and it'd be alright imo.. plus its freaky as hell when it dumps the /names list :D |
| 17:26.08 | websae | any ideas anyone? |
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| 17:26.48 | sivana | websae: voicemail works, it seems to be a permission thing |
| 17:26.49 | jake1932 | is there a way to calculate dealy in the codec? |
| 17:26.54 | jake1932 | delay |
| 17:27.11 | sivana | jake1932: are you looking for: show translation |
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| 17:27.37 | websae | yeah i tried chmoding it though |
| 17:27.40 | jake1932 | yes :) - tnx |
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| 17:27.44 | websae | and still having the same issue for some reason |
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| 17:32.18 | websae | any ideas anyone |
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| 17:40.36 | jake1932 | it looks like "show translation" only shows delay introduced when translating - I'm using ulaw from my phone to the VOIP provider. besides using traceroute - where else should I look for delay? |
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| 17:41.38 | ctooley | is there a limit to the number of call files I can drop at any time, when using SIP? |
| 17:42.14 | mosty | jake1932: ping times to your provider? |
| 17:42.27 | mosty | ctooley, what is a call file? |
| 17:43.07 | ctooley | mosty a file you put in the asterisk outgoing spool for Asterisk to handle. |
| 17:43.10 | ctooley | ls |
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| 17:43.40 | jake1932 | mosty: I'm getting about 85ms |
| 17:44.06 | websae | anyone know why my voicemail wouldn't work...i have the permissions set find for the folder...but when i leave a voicemail and then check it, says i don't have any...any ideas please? |
| 17:44.11 | mosty | ctooley: you just want to know how many simultaneous sip channels you can have? |
| 17:44.39 | mosty | websae: run asterisk with debugging/verbose options and see what it says when you create voicemail? |
| 17:44.44 | jake1932 | mosty:do you ever experience talking over someone in a VOIP conversation? |
| 17:44.44 | ctooley | no, I want to know if Asterisk has an upper bound on simultaneous call files. |
| 17:45.06 | mosty | jake1932: if the delay on the line is large |
| 17:45.17 | websae | mosty:-- x=1, open writing: /var/spool/asterisk/voicemail/default/200/INBOX/msg0000 format: wav, 0x990ef38 |
| 17:45.22 | jake1932 | mosty: what do you consider a large delay? |
| 17:45.55 | mosty | ctooley: i wasn't aware that asterisk wrote calls out to files |
| 17:45.59 | jake1932 | mosty: and is it reasonable to measure this delay using ping continuously? |
| 17:46.15 | mosty | ping isn't very good, because its packets are small |
| 17:46.25 | websae | any ideas mosty? |
| 17:46.39 | ctooley | mosty: you're getting it backwards. |
| 17:47.22 | ctooley | mosty: I can write a script to put a file in a directory and Asterisk will call the number I put in the file (the file has a specific format) and then when the person answers connect the person to the context that I put in the file. |
| 17:47.26 | websae | cause voicemail just isn't there |
| 17:47.28 | mosty | jake1932, there's a page on the wiki that has numbers for what is considered high delay |
| 17:48.10 | jake1932 | ctooley: according to http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk+auto-dial+out - you can manage it - but there doesn't seem to be a set number |
| 17:48.22 | ctooley | mosty: so my concern is that since this is such a simple DOS mechanism, the asterisk team may have put an artificial limit on the number of them it would process at any given time. |
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| 17:48.30 | mosty | ctooley: so these are just small files? i'd say the number is large, depending on your fs and mount options |
| 17:48.32 | ctooley | jake1932: That's what I thought. |
| 17:49.01 | mosty | ctooley, oh i see what you're asking, but i don't know the answer |
| 17:49.13 | websae | no has issues with voicemail not be able to be checked when someone leaves one? |
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| 17:49.53 | mosty | websae: what format are you saving voicemail as? |
| 17:49.54 | fugitivo | hello |
| 17:50.41 | websae | mosty: i am using wav and wav49 |
| 17:51.20 | websae | just am not understanding why it's not checking it and playing the msg |
| 17:52.09 | mosty | websae: do the files actually exist in that directory? |
| 17:53.14 | websae | mosty: no |
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| 17:54.08 | mosty | websae: increase the verbosity of asterisk and try to get some more debugging info |
| 17:55.45 | websae | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:55.53 | websae | asterisk1*CLI> |
| 17:56.01 | websae | that's as high as i could get it to go |
| 17:56.13 | sneak | hey |
| 17:56.14 | sivana | haha |
| 17:56.19 | jake1932 | wow |
| 17:56.22 | mosty | and it doesn't say anything about not being able to write the voicemail files? |
| 17:56.23 | sneak | anyone know why my monitor() recordings come out so choppy? |
| 17:56.29 | Qwell | they should have used a longlong |
| 17:56.49 | websae | says -- x=1, open writing: /var/spool/asterisk/voicemail/default/200/INBOX/msg0000 format: wav, 0x990ef38 |
| 17:56.56 | websae | nothing about not be able to write though |
| 17:57.37 | jake1932 | websae: is there anything at all in /var/spool/asterisk/voicemail/default/200/INBOX? |
| 17:57.43 | asteriskmonkey | Does anyone else have a t1 card ? |
| 17:58.07 | websae | nothing |
| 17:58.09 | asteriskmonkey | jake1932 what version of asterisk you running? i have 1.0.9 |
| 17:58.11 | websae | there is no files |
| 17:58.30 | jake1932 | asteriskmonkey: I think it's 1.09 |
| 17:58.42 | Qwell | websae: You aren't using ODBC_STORAGE, are you? |
| 17:58.43 | jake1932 | asteriskmonkey:you having problems with it? |
| 17:58.45 | asteriskmonkey | i am having an issue.. i see a ton of (null) 's in my asterisk logs, is that normal? |
| 17:58.57 | Qwell | if so, it would save it there for only a second, and delete it when it puts it into the DB |
| 17:59.20 | jake1932 | asteriskmonkey: nulls? I don't get anything like that |
| 17:59.36 | asteriskmonkey | jake: oh then something must be wrong then.. grrr. |
| 17:59.56 | jake1932 | asteriskmonkey: I was getting yellow and red alarms for a minute till I replaced the motherboard |
| 18:00.00 | asteriskmonkey | jake1932: I have a ni2 pri.. what flavour t1 you have |
| 18:00.18 | websae | well i am using asterisk@home |
| 18:00.19 | jake1932 | asteriskmonkey: I'm connected to another PBX |
| 18:00.20 | asteriskmonkey | i get no alarms.. used to get shit loads of collisons but i changed the irq and all was well |
| 18:00.24 | Qwell | I have a chocolate PRI - works great |
| 18:00.28 | websae | which does use mySQL i thought |
| 18:00.42 | jake1932 | asteriskmonkey: using E&M |
| 18:01.00 | asteriskmonkey | mmmm... is there a digium guy on that could help debug this |
| 18:01.04 | asteriskmonkey | its driving me nuts |
| 18:01.39 | jake1932 | is there a free utility to test voip latency? |
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| 18:01.48 | Qwell | jake1932: ping |
| 18:01.56 | websae | not using ODBC though |
| 18:02.14 | websae | it just not saving vmail to the folder |
| 18:02.20 | websae | even though seems to be opening write |
| 18:02.26 | websae | but when i check voicemail nothing there |
| 18:02.27 | asteriskmonkey | here is a link to a part of my log |
| 18:02.30 | asteriskmonkey | http://pastebin.ca/22662 |
| 18:02.40 | jake1932 | Qwell: but the packets don't simulate a VOIP call? |
| 18:02.42 | Qwell | websae: why not pastebin the log of a voicemail being saved? |
| 18:03.04 | Qwell | jake1932: there was some java site online, would tell you if your connection was capable of stuff |
| 18:03.08 | Qwell | voip specific |
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| 18:03.18 | jake1932 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:03.22 | Qwell | yeah |
| 18:03.46 | fone846 | <in@EFNet> nop, not fixed |
| 18:03.57 | bzbw | hi, I'm trying to define a group like "ACDGROUP=SIP/201&SIP/202" to be used in Dial(${ACDGROUP}|25), but * does not take it, anything wrong? |
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| 18:04.29 | fone846 | <in@EFNet> freenode has a strange irc service running |
| 18:05.19 | asteriskmonkey | twisted? kram ? you around |
| 18:05.39 | jalsot | does anybody use muxmon here? |
| 18:05.40 | asteriskmonkey | drumkilla_lab around |
| 18:05.58 | bzbw | umm, maybe this is a tough question. |
| 18:06.19 | Qwell | bzbw: why not just setup queues? |
| 18:06.31 | Qwell | but yes, that does look right, assuming you're doing it in extensions.conf |
| 18:06.44 | websae | Qwell: http://pastebin.com/360777 |
| 18:06.51 | asteriskmonkey | anyone know why this has so much nulls http://pastebin.ca/22662 |
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| 18:07.19 | asteriskmonkey | is there a way of telling if you should use cpe or master mode? |
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| 18:07.42 | bzbw | Quell: this is more a general question, as I see many samples by calling a predefined group. |
| 18:08.01 | websae | Qwell: did you get that? |
| 18:08.07 | Qwell | yeah |
| 18:08.26 | Qwell | bzbw: that looks right - what happens? |
| 18:09.04 | websae | around line 270 |
| 18:09.29 | bzbw | Quell: * give me something like SIP, ""|25 kinda error. looks like it does not take the defination. |
| 18:10.01 | asteriskmonkey | Ariel you around? |
| 18:10.14 | Qwell | websae: voicemail.conf, do you have it being sent to email addresses? |
| 18:10.26 | Qwell | bzbw: where are you setting that var? |
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| 18:10.51 | bzbw | Quell: in global context in extension.conf |
| 18:10.52 | Qwell | websae: look specifically for delete=1, also |
| 18:10.54 | Tiveron | Does anyone here have any experience with an Epygi Quadro2x PBX? |
| 18:11.18 | Qwell | (or delete=yes) |
| 18:12.06 | jake1932 | Qwell: from testmyvoip.com it says my MOS score is 4.3 - (the top being 4.4) - so that should be real good |
| 18:12.08 | websae | yep |
| 18:12.12 | websae | delete=yes |
| 18:12.23 | Qwell | mmhmm |
| 18:12.27 | Qwell | websae: thats why its not there |
| 18:12.32 | websae | what should i set that too |
| 18:12.42 | Qwell | do you want it to stay on your asterisk box? |
| 18:13.04 | websae | until i want to delete it |
| 18:13.04 | websae | yes |
| 18:13.08 | Qwell | delete=no |
| 18:13.21 | websae | what would delete=1 mean? |
| 18:13.26 | Qwell | yes |
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| 18:14.44 | Qwell | now might be a good time to mention that I gladly accept paypal donations |
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| 18:15.10 | jake1932 | haa |
| 18:15.29 | jake1932 | is there anyone that wouldn't? |
| 18:15.36 | Qwell | jake1932: quite a few |
| 18:16.00 | websae | Qwell: thanks for debug with that issue |
| 18:16.15 | jake1932 | Qwell: because they have a set fee structure - so you don't need to donate :) |
| 18:16.21 | Qwell | jake1932: ;] |
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| 18:16.46 | bzbw | Quell: just an update, i was wrong, it was in general context, that's why it's not working |
| 18:16.51 | asteriskmonkey | qwell,jake no idea on those nulls ? http://pastebin.ca/22662 |
| 18:17.14 | bzbw | but I wonder if I can put in other context other then Global |
| 18:17.31 | jake1932 | asteriskmonkey: no doubt - that's a lot of nulls |
| 18:17.59 | jake1932 | asteriskmonkey: are you sure there coming from your T1 card? |
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| 18:18.55 | Qwell | tsk, tsk, tsk, bad spelling |
| 18:19.02 | jake1932 | i know |
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| 18:19.26 | jake1932 | I'm typing faster than I can think |
| 18:19.30 | Qwell | not you |
| 18:19.35 | Qwell | nietzsche |
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| 18:19.50 | Qwell | jake1932: but, you too, yeah |
| 18:19.54 | jake1932 | :) |
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| 18:20.49 | jake1932 | is there an IRC client that proofreads? |
| 18:21.00 | Qwell | gaim, with the spelling plugin |
| 18:21.05 | jake1932 | oh |
| 18:21.19 | Qwell | I wouldn't really call it an irc client though...its not great |
| 18:21.20 | jake1932 | gotta check that out - tnx |
| 18:21.22 | Qwell | (but, most aren't( |
| 18:21.44 | jake1932 | Qwell: i'm using it now - seems alot better thanHydraIRC |
| 18:21.45 | asteriskmonkey | jake1932: i dont know where else the nulls would come from or how to isolate a test |
| 18:21.46 | fugitivo | bitchx is the client! |
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| 18:23.03 | jake1932 | but I'd have to install CYGWIN |
| 18:23.22 | fugitivo | oh, you're using windows |
| 18:23.39 | jake1932 | yep - no great solution for outlook/exchange yet |
| 18:23.45 | fugitivo | i think there's a windows version of bitchx |
| 18:23.57 | Qwell | jake1932: Novell released their exchange plugin for evolution. |
| 18:23.59 | Qwell | its open sourced now |
| 18:24.03 | hanchi | which is the most stable SCCP channel driver for use with a Cisco 7960 by itself and with one or two 7914 side cars |
| 18:24.03 | jake1932 | oh |
| 18:24.11 | Egonis | I'm doing a remote SIP connection to asterisk, with a physical SIP phone (using nat) |
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| 18:24.23 | Qwell | jake1932: it uses outlook web access, afaik |
| 18:24.27 | jake1932 | very nice - need to check into that |
| 18:24.28 | Egonis | It works 80% of the time, I dial 8500 for vm, but sometimes it connects, but plays back no sound |
| 18:24.36 | Qwell | so, that has to be enabled on exchange, but thats about the only real problem |
| 18:24.39 | Egonis | is it because of a lack of connection reliability? |
| 18:24.39 | fugitivo | there's a plugin for kontact too |
| 18:24.55 | Qwell | I'd imagine there are plugins for quite a few clients now, since that plugin was open sourced |
| 18:25.24 | jake1932 | Qwell: tnx - i'll look into that |
| 18:25.53 | jake1932 | I may soon be a convert |
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| 18:29.42 | hanchi | has anyone had any luck with a 7960+two 7914 side cars, I have been told it can only be done with SCCP and is not stable |
| 18:30.04 | Qwell | hanchi: sccp only, correct |
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| 18:30.22 | Qwell | there are quite a few different ways to do sccp in *. |
| 18:30.31 | hanchi | which channel driver would be the most stable with it skinny, sccp, sccp2 |
| 18:30.39 | Qwell | got me.. |
| 18:30.48 | Qwell | if you send me one, I'll test it out for you. ;] |
| 18:31.22 | hanchi | the only side cars I could find were for the Snom 360 and the Cisco 7914, does anyone know of any others |
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| 18:38.05 | Egonis | When I dial extension 8500 (vm) when using authenticated SIP, it answers, and then disconnects immediately with no error msgs... however, when using unauthenticated sip, it works fine... what is the issue? |
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| 18:39.12 | Sync | "/msg NickServ help register" |
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| 18:42.18 | nick125 | anyone here know of a cheap fxo device (thats from the pstn, right?)? |
| 18:42.37 | jontow | fxo is an incoming line, yes |
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| 18:43.19 | Sync | hi, can anybody help me to use asterisk as an IVR server of gnugk? |
| 18:43.23 | jontow | there is always the somewhat obsolete X100P clones |
| 18:43.27 | jontow | .. that suck, but work. |
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| 18:43.35 | jontow | they can be had for next to nothing on ebay, iirc. |
| 18:43.43 | fugitivo | nick125: x100p clone, check ebay, but you'll have echo and disconnect problems |
| 18:43.44 | jontow | i always had audio problems and callerid issues with 'em though. |
| 18:43.47 | nick125 | i was kinda hopeing for something like the sipuras |
| 18:43.52 | jontow | if you want cheap.. thats your option |
| 18:43.59 | jontow | but the SPA-3000 has 2 FXS and 1 FXO |
| 18:44.06 | jontow | and they work well, from what i know. |
| 18:44.37 | Assid | isnt there a cheap equivelent of a x100p clone for fxs? |
| 18:44.43 | nick125 | hrm... |
| 18:44.53 | jake1932 | mine doesn't work well |
| 18:45.07 | jake1932 | thinks my voie is DTMF |
| 18:45.14 | jake1932 | voice |
| 18:45.16 | jontow | yikes |
| 18:45.21 | jontow | i have 3 that went through a fire ;) |
| 18:45.25 | fugitivo | Assid: pap2-na is cheap for 2 fxs |
| 18:45.42 | jake1932 | I'd like to burn mine |
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| 18:45.50 | jontow | haha |
| 18:46.09 | jontow | its worth it |
| 18:46.12 | jake1932 | could not shake the echo problems |
| 18:46.56 | jake1932 | echo on teh fxs - echo on the fxo - and I had the newest firmware |
| 18:47.04 | Assid | fugitivo: how much is it? |
| 18:47.25 | fugitivo | Assid: $65 or $70 |
| 18:47.44 | jake1932 | how well does the IAXy work - it's an fxs, right? |
| 18:47.55 | fugitivo | yes, single port |
| 18:47.56 | Qwell | jake1932: they work pretty well, supposedly |
| 18:48.17 | jontow | i have had *0* problems with my IAXy |
| 18:48.25 | jontow | not the cheapest, but by far the coolest :) |
| 18:48.31 | Qwell | except the whole lack of DNS thing... |
| 18:48.38 | jake1932 | so far the only thing stable has been the 7960 and asterisk |
| 18:48.40 | kg | IAXy works like shit |
| 18:48.48 | kg | at least for me |
| 18:48.48 | jontow | kg; how so? |
| 18:48.54 | fugitivo | pap2-na works really well |
| 18:49.05 | kg | jontow: I'm tired of typing the same thing 1000 times :] |
| 18:49.13 | jontow | heh |
| 18:49.13 | jontow | ok |
| 18:49.27 | Assid | hrmm |
| 18:49.37 | Assid | maybe i should just invest in SPA-841 |
| 18:49.39 | kg | I couldn't get any help unfortunately. Those damn things won't native transfer/bridge/whatever it's called |
| 18:49.49 | Assid | just wondering how much it would cost to ship to india |
| 18:50.12 | Qwell | Assid: find a local distrubutor |
| 18:50.19 | Assid | not here :( |
| 18:50.27 | fugitivo | Assid: i'm sure you can get the pap2-na there, it's linksys |
| 18:51.19 | Assid | would prefer the ip phone tho.. i thought it was as cheap as the x100p .. i wouldnt mind it |
| 18:51.21 | jake1932 | kg: doesn't asterisk do the bridge? |
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| 18:55.01 | kg | jake1932: no, I want other software to do the bridge. It works for software clients. |
| 18:55.11 | jake1932 | ok |
| 18:55.23 | Qwell | nick125: should |
| 18:56.09 | fugitivo | who uses ALL options from voicemail.conf? |
| 18:56.09 | nick125 | well, its $110 per phone, if i get a cheap budgetone |
| 18:56.13 | jake1932 | or should I say having a lot of problems |
| 18:56.35 | Qwell | nick125: get a cheapish switch, instead of bridges everywhere |
| 18:56.45 | nick125 | $50 for a wireless bridge (house isnt wired for ethernet), and $50 for the phone |
| 18:57.00 | nick125 | Qwell: i have a switch, its the the thing of that this place isnt wired for ethernet |
| 18:57.09 | Qwell | are any of the phones near each other? |
| 18:57.15 | nick125 | Qwell: not really.. |
| 18:57.17 | Qwell | oh |
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| 18:58.02 | kg | did you guys try the new kb1 echo cancellation in zaptel? |
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| 19:00.33 | jake1932 | kb1 - no |
| 19:00.51 | ksh | any1 good with ser and asterisk ? |
| 19:00.58 | jake1932 | kg: have you tried kb1? |
| 19:01.01 | ksh | need messages from ser delivered to asterisk |
| 19:01.04 | jontow | expect(1) rocks my world, btw. |
| 19:01.16 | kg | jake1932: not yet |
| 19:01.27 | kg | I was hoping to hear some opinions :) |
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| 19:03.10 | tapan | hi, i want some help "how to use Asterisk as IVR server with gnugk"? |
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| 19:03.30 | jake1932 | what is gnugk? |
| 19:03.40 | tapan | www.gnugk.org |
| 19:03.53 | tapan | openh323 Gatekeeper |
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| 19:04.44 | ksh | is gatekeeper better than ser ? |
| 19:05.02 | jake1932 | ser is sip - no? |
| 19:05.06 | djin_ib | openh323 instead of SIP? |
| 19:05.08 | ksh | yea |
| 19:05.17 | jake1932 | gnugk appears to be for h323 |
| 19:05.23 | tapan | right |
| 19:05.37 | tapan | right now my service is running with gnugk |
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| 19:06.00 | ksh | im seekin an intelligent way to handle my voip solution |
| 19:06.02 | tapan | thats why, if i can add IVR with that, that will be great with my running services |
| 19:06.12 | ksh | ser and asterisk is like a pain in the ass |
| 19:06.23 | MikeJ[Laptop] | ksh, that isn't true |
| 19:06.35 | MikeJ[Laptop] | no more than the typicall challenge of ser at least |
| 19:06.42 | ksh | :) |
| 19:06.48 | ksh | well, i really stuck |
| 19:06.55 | ksh | and noone seems to be able to help |
| 19:06.56 | MikeJ[Laptop] | ser is a.. ummm... feature rich program... |
| 19:06.57 | file[laptop] | *German like* I KNOW NOTHING! |
| 19:07.00 | ksh | and no docs exist |
| 19:07.12 | ksh | indeed it is |
| 19:07.13 | MikeJ[Laptop] | ksh, people are willing to help..just not for free |
| 19:07.31 | ksh | ok |
| 19:07.35 | ksh | different aspect |
| 19:08.14 | ksh | anyways, relantions between ser and asterisk need to be better |
| 19:08.23 | MikeJ[Laptop] | people who have spent the time to really learn ser do not bother helping people for free, because there are too many people willing to pay for it. |
| 19:08.32 | MikeJ[Laptop] | generally that is |
| 19:08.46 | file[laptop] | plus when you need SER help it's usually something complex |
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| 19:08.57 | MikeJ[Laptop] | and people who have a real need for ser, should have the money to pay for help |
| 19:09.49 | tapan | can you tell me a good GUI for Asterisk? |
| 19:09.58 | Qwell | tapan: to do what? |
| 19:10.11 | MikeJ[Laptop] | what your saying is like saying that modifying an extension on a nortel meridain-1 is a pain inthe ass.. it isn't you just don't know how to, and no one is willing to show you for free |
| 19:10.45 | tapan | Qwell: i want to use IVR feature of Asterisk with gnugk |
| 19:11.02 | Qwell | I don't know what gnugk is |
| 19:11.16 | tapan | openh323 Gatekeeper |
| 19:11.17 | jake1932 | tapan - did you link gnugk to asterisk so you can do regular calls? |
| 19:11.21 | ksh | thats the aspect of open source, isnt it ? |
| 19:11.39 | ksh | i could do it myself, just dont have the time atm |
| 19:11.40 | tapan | yes, i did |
| 19:12.03 | ksh | and tought there is a "quick" solutoin |
| 19:12.10 | ksh | as we can speek of "quick" here |
| 19:12.13 | jake1932 | tapan - if you can do regular calls, just do some reading up on the asterisk dialplan (extensions.conf) |
| 19:12.47 | jake1932 | tapan - here's a good read if you haven't - http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+config+extensions.conf |
| 19:12.52 | tapan | let me explain you what i do in gnugk |
| 19:13.12 | tapan | if i dial to my gnugk say "555" it passes that to asterisk |
| 19:13.36 | tapan | now i want to hear IVR for that number |
| 19:14.05 | tapan | Jake, thanks, i am going to that page |
| 19:14.18 | jake1932 | tapan: you first need to know what context for h323 you're using in your dialplan |
| 19:14.54 | jake1932 | tapan: then you would use something like exten => 555,1,SomeApp |
| 19:15.11 | tapan | Jake: can you pls recommand a good GUI for Asterisk? |
| 19:15.35 | jake1932 | tapan: I checked out the GUIs and found it much easier to learn how to use the dialplan |
| 19:16.32 | jake1932 | tapan: and I'll almost guarantee - it'll be much easier to gt help in here if your aren't using the GUI |
| 19:17.14 | tapan | ok, can you recommand a good manual page for those stuff? |
| 19:17.25 | jake1932 | :) |
| 19:17.36 | jake1932 | tapan: I just gave you the link |
| 19:18.08 | sphing | is there a voip provider that doesn't give busy signals |
| 19:18.16 | tapan | ok, i think yes, you have given me a good things |
| 19:18.29 | fugitivo | ~docs |
| 19:18.32 | jbot | rumour has it, docs is Documentation can be found at http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk or http://www.asteriskdocs.org or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/asterisk |
| 19:18.50 | jake1932 | that's right - jake1932 does give good things |
| 19:19.06 | jake1932 | good luck tapan |
| 19:19.16 | tapan | thanks for your help |
| 19:19.20 | jake1932 | np |
| 19:20.06 | asteriskmonkey | lol i do voip in toronto :) |
| 19:20.53 | jake1932 | sphing: i wish buies were the only problems I got |
| 19:20.58 | jake1932 | busies |
| 19:21.16 | asteriskmonkey | jake1932 wheres your t1? |
| 19:21.45 | jake1932 | asteriskmonkey: at a client site - my asterisk box with t1 tie works flawlessly |
| 19:22.00 | jake1932 | asteriskmonkey: my home stuff is a different story |
| 19:22.20 | asteriskmonkey | jake1932: lol, is there a way of telling if signalling is master or slace/ |
| 19:23.29 | jake1932 | asteriskmonkey: hmm - I don't think it would work in the wrong configuration |
| 19:25.22 | jake1932 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:25.24 | Egonis | When I try to use Meetme, I get the following message: Sep 11 15:25:04 WARNING[8215]: pbx.c:1293 pbx_extension_helper: No application 'Meetme' for extension (default, 1000, 1) |
| 19:25.50 | Qwell | Egonis: meetme.conf |
| 19:25.51 | file[laptop] | Egonis: do you have a zaptel timing device? if you compiled asterisk and then zaptel, you have to recompile asterisk so it picks up the zaptel stuff |
| 19:26.02 | file[laptop] | and thus builds meetme. |
| 19:26.02 | Egonis | no zaptel device... |
| 19:26.08 | file[laptop] | no zaptel device? then no meetme. |
| 19:26.10 | jake1932 | ztdummy |
| 19:26.12 | file[laptop] | unless you use ztdummy |
| 19:26.35 | Egonis | file[laptop]: in my meetme.conf, I solely have [rooms], conf => 1000 |
| 19:26.45 | file[laptop] | Egonis: that's not the problem, there is no meetme application compiled |
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| 19:26.55 | file[laptop] | that means it didn't pick up the zaptel headers - which means zaptel isn't installed |
| 19:26.57 | fugitivo | Egonis: meetme will not work if no zaptel or ztdummy |
| 19:26.57 | Egonis | file[laptop] so how would I go about recompiling w/ meetme? |
| 19:27.16 | Egonis | fugitivo: Should I install ztdummy then? I am using no hardware at all |
| 19:27.17 | Qwell | Egonis: compile zaptel with ztdummy (or get a timing device), and recompile asterisk |
| 19:27.26 | Egonis | will do |
| 19:27.28 | Egonis | ty all! |
| 19:27.31 | sivana | Egonis: you need to go into the zaptel folder, open Makefile, uncomment the ztdummy |
| 19:27.39 | Egonis | will do |
| 19:27.49 | Qwell | unless you're on 2.6 - then its the default (in cvs head) |
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| 19:28.11 | Egonis | Qwell: I am using 2.6 |
| 19:28.21 | Egonis | Qwell: You mean kernel? or Asterisk?\ |
| 19:28.22 | Egonis | ;) |
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| 19:29.19 | asteriskmonkey | jake1932: yes the nulls are the only things bothering me |
| 19:30.05 | asteriskmonkey | it works ok but i still have some issue with calls from-pstn getting echo on there end.. that might be a gain issue.. although again the nulls are buging me alot |
| 19:31.58 | jake1932 | asteriskmonkey: is it only when you make pri calls - or does it happen on sip calls too? |
| 19:33.01 | asteriskmonkey | the echo so far has only been noticed from people on the pstn side (From public switch) i occasioally get a minor echo on my iax connection but rarly |
| 19:33.15 | jake1932 | asteriskmonkey: the nulls |
| 19:33.19 | asteriskmonkey | ah the nulls |
| 19:33.26 | asteriskmonkey | they always happen damn it |
| 19:33.30 | asteriskmonkey | sip aswell |
| 19:33.32 | asteriskmonkey | grr |
| 19:33.38 | jake1932 | asteriskmonkey: just sip to asterisk |
| 19:33.45 | asteriskmonkey | i think there comming from the te110p digium card |
| 19:33.46 | jake1932 | asteriskmonkey: (no pri involved) |
| 19:33.55 | asteriskmonkey | ok |
| 19:35.12 | Egonis | fyi: emerging (gentoo Linux) zaptel, and then re-emerge asterisk was easy as pie! Thanks again guys... |
| 19:35.29 | Qwell | eww, asterisk packages |
| 19:35.46 | Qwell | I don't trust them |
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| 19:36.33 | jake1932 | asteriskmonkey: are you using Manager for something? |
| 19:36.38 | Egonis | However -- I get the following message upon /etc/init.d/zaptel start: line 142: Unable to open master device '/dev/zap/ctl' |
| 19:36.55 | Egonis | do I need to mknod? |
| 19:37.08 | asteriskmonkey | jake1932: ahah! its only when i make calls in or from the pri |
| 19:37.20 | asteriskmonkey | simple sip connections dealing internall do not cause anything |
| 19:38.08 | jake1932 | asteriskmonkey: even pri debugging should do that |
| 19:38.12 | jake1932 | shouldn't |
| 19:38.23 | asteriskmonkey | so ... where do i go from here? |
| 19:39.38 | jake1932 | asteriskmonkey: it's difficult to say where those nulls are coming from |
| 19:40.16 | Egonis | So I ran a script which creates the device nodes for zaptel -- however, I got the following message again: Unable to open master device: '/dev/zap/ctl' |
| 19:40.29 | Egonis | Although those nodes appear to exist |
| 19:40.36 | jake1932 | asteriskmonkey: we at least know that it's something to do with the PRI now though |
| 19:40.56 | jake1932 | asteriskmonkey: or zaptel driver? |
| 19:42.23 | jake1932 | asteriskmonkey: it's almost like someone left some debugging code in there |
| 19:49.19 | Egonis | When I try meetme, although it works (audibly), I get the following messages: Sep 11 15:48:50 WARNING[22639]: chan_zap.c:770 zt_open: Unable to open '/dev/zap/pseudo': Permission denied |
| 19:49.19 | Egonis | Sep 11 15:48:50 ERROR[22639]: chan_zap.c:6731 chandup: Unable to dup channel: Permission denied |
| 19:49.19 | Egonis | Sep 11 15:48:50 WARNING[22639]: app_meetme.c:227 build_conf: Unable to open pseudo channel - trying device |
| 19:49.19 | Egonis | Sep 11 15:48:50 WARNING[22639]: app_meetme.c:230 build_conf: Unable to open pseudo device |
| 19:49.35 | sivana | Egonis: did you modprobe ztdummy? |
| 19:49.46 | Egonis | sivana: good question, I modprobed zaptel |
| 19:49.53 | Egonis | now I did.. hrmm |
| 19:50.13 | Egonis | sivana: same msgs |
| 19:51.16 | sivana | might want to try Google, I personally have no idea :) |
| 19:51.25 | sivana | I'm battling ztdummy as it is on a test machine here :) |
| 19:51.40 | Egonis | sivana: doing that now.. (sigh) |
| 19:51.49 | Egonis | zaptel is an interesting little toy, now isn't it? |
| 19:51.56 | asterisk99 | Does anyone here use the Polycom IP300 ??? |
| 19:52.07 | sivana | ya... needs to be rewritten from the ground up IMO |
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| 19:58.24 | Egonis | sivana: Did you install zapata before zaptel? |
| 19:58.46 | Qwell | there is no zapata package. its just zaptel |
| 19:58.54 | sivana | no |
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| 19:59.13 | Egonis | sivana: Found a discussion article about that being an issue.. so I'm installing zapata, then zaptel |
| 19:59.16 | Egonis | no idea why, just trying it |
| 19:59.28 | sivana | huh |
| 19:59.29 | Qwell | hmm, there is a zapata package? |
| 19:59.34 | Egonis | apparently cures the issues -- again, no idea why |
| 19:59.37 | sivana | zapata is just a conf file |
| 19:59.44 | Qwell | sivana: s'what I thought |
| 19:59.57 | sivana | Egonis: what did you do with zapata? |
| 20:00.10 | Egonis | sivana: Nothing, just emerged the package |
| 20:01.23 | sivana | what's the package file name |
| 20:01.56 | Egonis | sivana: I use gentoo, so I just type 'emerge zapata' want the .tar.gz filename? one sec |
| 20:02.00 | sphing | sivana: isnt a gentoo person |
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| 20:02.07 | Qwell | I said it before, and I'll say it again...asterisk packages suck |
| 20:02.12 | sivana | basically.. nuff said now :) |
| 20:02.21 | fugitivo | Egonis: emerge zaptel |
| 20:02.35 | sivana | ya, I have no idea it was a gentoo thing |
| 20:02.38 | Qwell | try compiling the actual asterisk source |
| 20:02.39 | Egonis | :) |
| 20:02.45 | Qwell | asterisk/zaptel/etc |
| 20:02.50 | Egonis | Qwell: Gentoo downloads only sources, and compiles for you |
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| 20:02.52 | fugitivo | USE="zaptel" emerge asterisk |
| 20:02.58 | Egonis | Qwell: that's the whole point of gentoo |
| 20:02.59 | Qwell | Egonis: yes, I know what gentoo does |
| 20:03.10 | Egonis | fugitivo: Thank you! I didn't know there was a zaptel use flag! |
| 20:03.11 | Qwell | I've never had luck with the gentoo packages though, or any package for that matter |
| 20:03.26 | Qwell | Egonis: emerge -pv asterisk |
| 20:03.28 | Qwell | look at all the use flags |
| 20:03.34 | Qwell | same with zaptel |
| 20:03.46 | Egonis | Qwell: Ah, yes.. good point! :) |
| 20:03.46 | fugitivo | Qwell: it's not really a gentoo package, it's the original source file |
| 20:03.47 | Qwell | I still wouldn't recommend emerging it though |
| 20:03.54 | Qwell | fugitivo: butchered |
| 20:04.36 | fugitivo | gentoo just download the file and follow ebuild instructions for compiling |
| 20:05.04 | fugitivo | they don't modify or alter in any aspect the source files |
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| 20:06.22 | Egonis | fugitivo: Yeah.. just don't ~x86 certain packages! ;) |
| 20:06.33 | myke | just don't use gentoo |
| 20:06.46 | Qwell | myke: yeah, real men use Fedora |
| 20:06.50 | fugitivo | lol |
| 20:06.58 | myke | i can't figure out the attraction |
| 20:06.59 | Qwell | gambolputty: alot of people do. me included |
| 20:07.03 | gambolputty | ocol |
| 20:07.03 | myke | i use slackware and my * works |
| 20:07.07 | Qwell | myke: there are plenty of reasons to use gentoo |
| 20:07.10 | gambolputty | I have Fedora also |
| 20:07.25 | gambolputty | cool |
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| 20:07.34 | myke | yeah, reason #1: your linux experience is going way too smoothly and you'd like a way to make it consume 10x as much time and become much more frustrated |
| 20:07.37 | fugitivo | myke: i started using slack in 1995, everything was compiling |
| 20:07.59 | Equinox | Does slackware still recompile to add security patches? |
| 20:08.14 | fugitivo | myke: now it's compiling, but gentoo does it all for me... |
| 20:08.40 | fugitivo | i never liked packages |
| 20:08.40 | Qwell | gentoo is by far my favorite distro. I used RH/Fedora religiously for years...I just got tired of the BS |
| 20:08.40 | myke | let's see how much you like gentoo when you suddenly have a gentoo-based system with a horked compiler and you need some tools like dump on there to save the important bits |
| 20:08.58 | Qwell | myke: not difficult |
| 20:09.06 | myke | gentoo is my most hated, least favorite linux distro |
| 20:09.07 | Qwell | I've always got my trust 40mb gentoo install CD |
| 20:09.13 | sphing | myke: you don't like gentoo... but there are reasons to use |
| 20:09.24 | Egonis | sivana: It didn't help at all! :( |
| 20:09.26 | sphing | ie... my C3 machine |
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| 20:09.46 | fugitivo | myke: why do you hate gentoo? |
| 20:09.51 | fugitivo | myke: and what do you use? |
| 20:10.02 | sivana | Egonis: no idea :) |
| 20:10.04 | myke | slackware, and because it doesn't give you the option of binary packages |
| 20:10.12 | sphing | yes it does |
| 20:10.13 | myke | so installs take forever, it's like doing LFS almost |
| 20:10.14 | Egonis | sivana: lol.. just informing, not asking |
| 20:10.23 | fugitivo | myke: since when do you use slackware? |
| 20:10.27 | sphing | myke you can install binaries for packages if they exists |
| 20:10.33 | myke | right, if you have another gentoo box to build them on |
| 20:10.40 | myke | which is what i had to end up doing, 4 hours later |
| 20:11.00 | fugitivo | myke: i use gentoo because i don't like binary packages |
| 20:11.05 | myke | i started using slack again about 6 months ago |
| 20:11.24 | myke | fugitivo: that's fine, but they should still exist. all the other distros have both source or binary packages |
| 20:12.05 | fugitivo | myke: there's no reason for binary packages in gentoo, but anyways, there're some binary options, like openoffice-bin |
| 20:12.17 | sphing | myke: we've established that you dont like it... but wha tis the need to bash people who use it |
| 20:12.25 | myke | one reason is so you can get a complete workstation installed in about 7 mins |
| 20:12.45 | myke | sphing, maybe those ppl would find their life is a lot easier if they used something else |
| 20:13.05 | sphing | maybe you'd find your life easier if you stop worrying about other people finding their life's easier |
| 20:13.06 | fugitivo | myke: i don't think a newbie will use gentoo |
| 20:13.19 | myke | fugitivo: from what i've seen on here, they are |
| 20:13.23 | fugitivo | myke: new people will choose fedora, or suse, or something like that |
| 20:13.46 | gordonjcp | what is the *point* of gentoo? |
| 20:13.55 | Qwell | gordonjcp: flexibility |
| 20:13.57 | fugitivo | gordonjcp: emerge |
| 20:14.13 | gordonjcp | but it's not any more flexible than any other distro? |
| 20:14.15 | Qwell | don't let people lie to you about it being all about performance...thats not it at all |
| 20:14.18 | Qwell | gordonjcp: by far, yes |
| 20:14.31 | fugitivo | i agree with qwell |
| 20:14.32 | Qwell | USE="-X" emerge somepackage |
| 20:14.35 | sphing | gordonjcp: not many distros can run as smoothly as gentoo on a C3 |
| 20:14.38 | Qwell | lets see debian/fedora/suse/whatever do that |
| 20:14.46 | gordonjcp | you just end up watching a ton of compiler messages scroll up |
| 20:14.49 | fugitivo | USE="zaptel pri" emerge asterisk ;) |
| 20:15.02 | gordonjcp | it takes forever to actually install anything |
| 20:15.07 | Qwell | gordonjcp: not really |
| 20:15.10 | fugitivo | gordonjcp: no |
| 20:15.11 | Qwell | just KDE and openoffice, really |
| 20:15.17 | Qwell | and those have binary packages |
| 20:15.17 | sphing | gordonjcp: what about a c3 machine? |
| 20:15.21 | gordonjcp | c3? |
| 20:15.22 | Qwell | anything "huge" has a -bin package. |
| 20:15.26 | Qwell | firefox included |
| 20:15.44 | gordonjcp | sphing: what about a *what*? |
| 20:15.49 | sphing | processor on |
| 20:15.51 | fugitivo | and if you have a decent machine, you don't have to worry about time |
| 20:15.54 | sphing | mini-itx |
| 20:16.06 | sphing | not 100% x86 compatible |
| 20:16.27 | fugitivo | sphing: i used 30 of those (thin clients) with a gentoo dual opteron server |
| 20:16.52 | sphing | fugitivo: off gentoo no? |
| 20:17.14 | fugitivo | the server provides everything a desktop needs to the thin clients |
| 20:17.19 | asteriskmonkey | jake1932: think ill recomiple the newer zaptel in and see if that gets rid of my nulls |
| 20:17.19 | fugitivo | even sound |
| 20:17.39 | Qwell | fugitivo: have you seen the ndyio(sp) ultra thin clients? |
| 20:17.53 | sphing | fugitivo: i'm saying i use gentoo specifically on my c3 machine because from what i read it was missing some x86 instructions |
| 20:17.57 | fugitivo | Qwell: no, what do they run? |
| 20:17.58 | Qwell | shit, what were those called... |
| 20:18.06 | fugitivo | sphing: really? |
| 20:18.07 | Qwell | fugitivo: one sec, lemme find a link - its pretty slick |
| 20:18.37 | Qwell | ndiyo |
| 20:18.38 | sphing | fugitivo: i by no means am an asm expert but i read somewhere that c3's lacked a specific mov instruction |
| 20:18.47 | Qwell | http://www.ndiyo.org/systems |
| 20:18.51 | Qwell | find the pdf |
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| 20:19.15 | Qwell | http://www.ndiyo.org/files/sustainable-networking-presentation.pdf |
| 20:19.29 | myke | there's still ppl doing thin clients? |
| 20:19.41 | Qwell | myke: sure |
| 20:19.49 | fugitivo | Qwell: oh yes, i saw them, incredible, but not 100% desktop capable |
| 20:19.55 | Egonis | sivana: Are you having permission denied msgs in zaptel? Found the fix |
| 20:20.24 | fugitivo | Qwell: my thin clients were sound and usb storage capable :) |
| 20:20.34 | Qwell | these have sound, don't they? thought they did |
| 20:20.47 | Qwell | and client usb is coming in a later version, supposedly |
| 20:20.48 | myke | do they have something better than NAS for sound? |
| 20:20.57 | sivana | Egonis: no.. I'm using slackware and I had the USB disabled |
| 20:21.11 | Egonis | sivana: ah, okay.. I'm using 2.6 |
| 20:21.20 | fugitivo | Qwell: i'll like to see how they solve the usb storage on the thin client, it's not easy |
| 20:21.24 | sivana | Egonis: so ztdummy isn't working.. now I'm trying to enable USB and having fun :) |
| 20:21.33 | Qwell | fugitivo: some sort of emulation layer |
| 20:21.36 | sivana | at the same time upgrade to 2.6.13 |
| 20:21.37 | Qwell | I'd assume |
| 20:21.41 | Egonis | joy |
| 20:22.02 | fugitivo | Qwell: you have to mount the thin client usb in the server |
| 20:22.03 | myke | 1/cl |
| 20:22.06 | sivana | I don't usually do this kind of stuff, I have a tech guy... but being Sunday and all :) |
| 20:22.08 | Qwell | fugitivo: yeah, I know |
| 20:22.54 | fugitivo | myke: i found nas the best solution, but you get a little delay with sound |
| 20:23.48 | myke | i like thin clients. of course my systems involve a lot of old 486s and tokenring. |
| 20:25.04 | sivana | do I have to enable udev in make menuconfig? |
| 20:26.25 | sivana | I tell you.. we've got electricians doing plumbing |
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| 20:28.25 | mog_home | anyone here know anything about cars |
| 20:28.34 | Egonis | sivana: in make menuconfig, you won't find udev, you want to disable 'automount devfs tho', and then install the udev package (how to do this in slack? no idea) |
| 20:28.39 | Qwell | mog_home: just that if it doesn't start, it probably needs gas |
| 20:28.46 | Egonis | mog_home: ahh..yeeah, odd question here tho |
| 20:28.53 | mog_home | well |
| 20:29.03 | Egonis | mog_home: Is it turning over? |
| 20:29.07 | mog_home | i just filled my car with gas and it wont start |
| 20:29.12 | mog_home | none of the electrics work |
| 20:29.15 | mog_home | like lights etc |
| 20:29.18 | Egonis | mog_home: since when? |
| 20:29.21 | mog_home | and i had gotten a clean start the last time |
| 20:29.24 | mog_home | 20 min ago |
| 20:29.25 | Egonis | mog_home: and THAT'D be a problem! |
| 20:29.26 | Qwell | battery |
| 20:29.34 | Egonis | mog_home: Battery OR Alternator |
| 20:29.40 | mog_home | yeah the cab driver told me that |
| 20:29.59 | Egonis | mog_home: Get a jumpstart from someone, let it run for 10mins to charge the battery.. if she dies again... maybe you need a new battery, or worse |
| 20:30.08 | mog_home | eep |
| 20:30.09 | Qwell | mog_home: that happened when I bought my truck. the very day we got it, we drove it like 50 miles, stopped at the store, went in, came back out, and the clicker unlocked the doors when we got back out |
| 20:30.13 | mog_home | okay thats what i was thinking |
| 20:30.17 | Qwell | but, turn the key...nothing. clicker stopped working too |
| 20:30.28 | Qwell | battery cable was loose :D |
| 20:30.32 | mog_home | i think i will get a jump |
| 20:30.35 | Egonis | mog_home: If you put a voltmeter across the battery leads, if it reads 14-15v, it's charging.. if less, it's a bat alternator (I think, read a manual somewhere to be sure) |
| 20:30.36 | mog_home | clean the battery |
| 20:30.41 | gordonjcp | yeah |
| 20:30.57 | gordonjcp | mog_home: start at the very start |
| 20:31.08 | gordonjcp | clean the battery terminals - disconnect negative first |
| 20:31.35 | gordonjcp | check that there is actually anything in the battery at all |
| 20:31.50 | Qwell | got a power meter with you? :p |
| 20:32.01 | mog_home | nope |
| 20:32.03 | gordonjcp | there aren't normally any fuses that will kill power to *everything* |
| 20:32.07 | Qwell | What kind of geek are you? |
| 20:32.23 | mog_home | so give the car a jump, and then clean the terminators |
| 20:32.35 | mog_home | later |
| 20:32.37 | gordonjcp | well, clean the battery terminals first |
| 20:32.45 | Qwell | soda works wonders |
| 20:32.48 | Qwell | cola |
| 20:32.53 | Qwell | (if you've got nothing else handy) |
| 20:32.55 | gordonjcp | and always disconnect the negative lead first, and connect it last |
| 20:32.57 | mog_home | baking soda and water? |
| 20:33.23 | mog_home | yeah ill disconnect the negative lead then the postive |
| 20:33.26 | mog_home | clean terms |
| 20:33.30 | mog_home | plug it back in |
| 20:33.34 | mog_home | then jump if needed |
| 20:34.01 | mog_home | right? |
| 20:34.05 | Qwell | #asterisk - we know cars too |
| 20:34.06 | Egonis | good start |
| 20:34.10 | mog_home | heh |
| 20:34.16 | Egonis | LOL |
| 20:34.25 | Lathos42 | Qwell: That thought just crossed my mind |
| 20:34.26 | mog_home | thanks, i just need to get a friend to come out there with me and hook me up |
| 20:34.29 | Qwell | #asterisk - we pretend we know cars too |
| 20:34.35 | b0ef | any way to force asterisk to output a specific samplerate and format?. The way it is now, it's opening the device in another format than other applications |
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| 20:38.50 | slak- | hehe |
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| 20:39.24 | slak- | anyone try setting your * callerid to one of a cellphone, calling that cellphone and being put directly into the voicemail |
| 20:39.37 | slak- | bypassing any authenticating PIN entry |
| 20:39.47 | slak- | ridiculous |
| 20:39.50 | JessicaX^ | boo! |
| 20:40.10 | Qwell | slak-: really? what provider? |
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| 20:40.26 | slak- | so far it has worked for me with tmobil and cingular cellphones |
| 20:40.29 | Qwell | slak-: I hear that with some providers, setting it to a DID they own will give you free cell-to-cell minutes |
| 20:40.37 | slak- | i heard some shit on my sisters voicemail that scarred me for life |
| 20:40.37 | Qwell | ie sprint-sprint, supposedly |
| 20:40.42 | Qwell | eww! |
| 20:40.51 | Qwell | slak-: I'll try that for you with spring |
| 20:40.59 | slak- | ok |
| 20:41.00 | Qwell | sprint, rather |
| 20:41.23 | slak- | it doesnt work with verizon |
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| 20:42.50 | Qwell | slak-: takes me straight to VM without ringing |
| 20:42.56 | slak- | ;D |
| 20:43.00 | slak- | password prompt? |
| 20:43.09 | Qwell | no, VM to leave a message |
| 20:43.12 | Qwell | wtf, haha |
| 20:43.13 | slak- | oh |
| 20:43.15 | slak- | strange |
| 20:43.18 | Qwell | new message from 555-555-5555 |
| 20:43.39 | slak- | i set my id to 666 666 6666 |
| 20:43.41 | slak- | or all 1's |
| 20:43.54 | Qwell | I set mine to my DID...sprint thinks its all 5s though |
| 20:44.03 | slak- | your DID? |
| 20:44.08 | slak- | or sprints did |
| 20:44.20 | Qwell | it said the message was from 5s |
| 20:44.24 | slak- | lol |
| 20:44.31 | Qwell | I set it to my sprint did though, which took me right to VM |
| 20:44.48 | slak- | try a tmobil number |
| 20:45.00 | slak- | set it to that tmobil cell callerid and call it |
| 20:45.24 | Qwell | don't know any |
| 20:45.28 | slak- | k |
| 20:46.20 | Qwell | just called myself with my wifes DID, showed her name on the display, heh |
| 20:46.24 | Qwell | that was expected though |
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| 20:46.40 | slak- | why cant we set name on callerid's aswell |
| 20:46.47 | slak- | atleast not via asterlink |
| 20:46.51 | Qwell | because its looked up on the client side |
| 20:46.54 | Qwell | in a db |
| 20:46.56 | slak- | oh |
| 20:47.09 | Qwell | most of the time anyhow |
| 20:47.34 | slak- | and too bad only 10digit numbers work |
| 20:47.41 | slak- | i want my callerid to be 31337 :d |
| 20:47.52 | myke | depends, on my local telco 4 digits work |
| 20:48.01 | slak- | thats cool |
| 20:48.08 | myke | so ppl would see me as "2600" or something |
| 20:48.20 | Egonis | mod the sourcefiles! ;) |
| 20:48.28 | slak- | i set it to something less then 10 digits and it defaults to my iax providers did |
| 20:48.29 | Qwell | You can set cidnum to whatever you want |
| 20:48.41 | myke | i don't think it's a * restriction, probably depends on what the telco will accept |
| 20:48.45 | slak- | yea |
| 20:49.10 | clive- | anyone know about ompiler optimisations? |
| 20:49.10 | slak- | hey anyone know voice scrambler softphones? |
| 20:49.18 | slak- | i wanna put a filter on my voice |
| 20:49.30 | slak- | clive what about it |
| 20:49.45 | fugitivo | are you a terrorist? |
| 20:49.49 | slak- | yes |
| 20:50.17 | clive- | slak, hi |
| 20:50.22 | slak- | sup mang |
| 20:50.52 | clive- | I am looking at options talking about ICC and a whole bunch of stuff..just wondering which ones to choose |
| 20:52.20 | slak- | hrm |
| 20:52.22 | slak- | sorry mang |
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| 20:52.37 | SpaceBass | howdy |
| 20:52.54 | slak- | im using my DJ headphones for a mic |
| 20:52.55 | slak- | lol |
| 20:53.06 | slak- | sounds great |
| 20:54.05 | SpaceBass | anyone ever played with integration with IM clients like AIM or google talk? |
| 20:54.20 | slak- | myJabber |
| 20:54.25 | Qwell | SpaceBass: look at like...umm... hookdahek? |
| 20:54.30 | Qwell | I think thats what its called |
| 20:54.31 | slak- | i think its a softphone+aim |
| 20:54.43 | Qwell | or do you mean actual integration, like putting a softphone in them? |
| 20:54.50 | SpaceBass | Qwell: thanks, just this second saw that on google |
| 20:55.00 | Qwell | it'll msg you callerid |
| 20:55.08 | Qwell | you can do other things with it though, I'm sure |
| 20:55.24 | SpaceBass | what I'd like is for AIM or google talk users to be able to start an audio conference that basically connectes to my * box and then rings an extension |
| 20:55.44 | slak- | interesting |
| 20:56.05 | slak- | how would they dial your * box |
| 20:56.09 | SpaceBass | just a thought....im bored and thought I'd play around |
| 20:56.11 | slak- | via ip? |
| 20:56.18 | SpaceBass | slak-: by starting an audio conference with a screenname |
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| 21:09.52 | slak- | anyone own a pda and use it as a phone |
| 21:09.55 | slak- | softphone |
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| 21:10.56 | myke | i would like to knwo about that too as i will have a treo soon hopefully |
| 21:11.05 | Himeko | slak- yes |
| 21:11.10 | SpaceBass | blackberry here |
| 21:11.12 | SpaceBass | 7100g |
| 21:11.14 | Himeko | a treo is a phone |
| 21:11.24 | Himeko | same with a blackberry |
| 21:11.38 | Himeko | he is talking regular pda and a softphone |
| 21:12.09 | Himeko | i've been running sjphone on my axim |
| 21:13.20 | Baph | does any1 know of any applets that I could use to stream audio over the web (I basically want to be able to goto a website, and use that website as a softphone, through my * server)? |
| 21:14.24 | myke | treo is a phone but still charges per min for regular ld, but can have unlimited internet |
| 21:14.33 | myke | so softphone is still of interest there |
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| 21:16.15 | Qwell | meh, Nextel sucks |
| 21:16.22 | Qwell | they won't give me a list of prefixes in an NPA |
| 21:16.28 | Himeko | i don't recall seeing a palm softphone yet |
| 21:16.32 | Himeko | but maybe there is one |
| 21:18.35 | Darwin35 | who did what to who with what pport |
| 21:18.44 | Hmmhesays | mine hair is getting blue |
| 21:19.05 | Darwin35 | dont forget to make your poodle match |
| 21:19.45 | smcmahon | I hate softphones :) |
| 21:21.09 | smcmahon | I dont think palm will ever have a softphone, I know Windows CE PDA's do. Most of the ones I run across are PTT softphones tho. |
| 21:21.16 | smcmahon | PTT = Push to Talk |
| 21:21.19 | Darwin35 | I would rather be hit with a softphone then a hard phone |
| 21:21.36 | smcmahon | LOL How do you hit someone with a softphone? |
| 21:21.44 | Qwell | smcmahon: see above |
| 21:21.49 | sphing | sendspike |
| 21:21.53 | Darwin35 | ouch |
| 21:22.01 | Qwell | sphing: milliwatt test? |
| 21:22.21 | sphing | boris did it in goldeneye.. why cant i? |
| 21:23.04 | Darwin35 | My heart to thouse of the flood of this year and to those of 911 |
| 21:23.19 | smcmahon | * Actually I wouldn't take the time to take it out of the computer so I'd huck the computer at ya as well ... |
| 21:23.23 | sphing | what are some use flags for an asterisks system |
| 21:23.31 | Qwell | sphing: gentoo? |
| 21:23.37 | Qwell | Don't emerge asterisk, heh |
| 21:23.40 | Darwin35 | but at the same time I think we need to do some mass cleansing of the planet |
| 21:23.51 | Qwell | Darwin35: ala your namesake? |
| 21:23.57 | Darwin35 | no |
| 21:23.58 | Qwell | I think they're doing fine |
| 21:24.31 | sphing | Qwell: yea i wasnt going to emerge asterisk but none the less... any prereq's |
| 21:24.31 | Darwin35 | I just think its time to limit how many kids are born to a family |
| 21:24.38 | fugitivo | sphing: zaptel pri |
| 21:24.56 | Qwell | sphing: ncurses, I think |
| 21:25.16 | Darwin35 | I thinnk those on welfair should have tubes tied or sniped |
| 21:25.19 | fugitivo | Qwell: why don't emerge asterisk? |
| 21:25.29 | Qwell | fugitivo: I just don't like asterisk packages :p |
| 21:25.31 | myke | ok so what's everyone's favorite server vendor? |
| 21:25.33 | Qwell | they never work right |
| 21:25.39 | Darwin35 | now back to asterisk |
| 21:25.39 | Qwell | myke: Dell |
| 21:25.50 | fugitivo | Qwell: i didn't have any problems emerging asterisk |
| 21:25.56 | Darwin35 | build your own |
| 21:25.59 | Qwell | fugitivo: some people do - especially on Debian |
| 21:26.01 | Darwin35 | cheaper |
| 21:26.18 | fugitivo | Qwell: but again, gentoo doesn't build the packages, just get the sources and compiles |
| 21:26.26 | myke | darwin, still need a parts source... |
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| 21:26.33 | Qwell | fugitivo: but it can do funky stuff, regardless |
| 21:26.45 | Darwin35 | pkgs suck |
| 21:26.53 | Darwin35 | yyou should build from src |
| 21:27.11 | fugitivo | Darwin35: that's what emerge does |
| 21:27.13 | Darwin35 | then you can add in features you want that pkgs dont have |
| 21:27.13 | Qwell | and its so difficult to go from a package to cvs head, if you need to test something |
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| 21:27.27 | Qwell | because you have to unmerge everything, then get from cvs, then compile...etc |
| 21:27.28 | fugitivo | that's true |
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| 21:27.53 | Qwell | and its often out of date |
| 21:27.55 | myke | in the time you spent figuring out the mystery options to emerge you could have already downloaded and compiled * |
| 21:27.56 | fugitivo | you can build your own ebuild |
| 21:28.03 | fugitivo | so you get the lastest cvs |
| 21:28.12 | Qwell | fugitivo: or you could just cvs up && make && make install |
| 21:28.16 | kusznir_ | fugitivo: I just emerged asterisk on one of my boxes and it worked great out of the box. They actually have the lastest beta release if you unmask it. |
| 21:28.32 | fugitivo | kusznir_: yes, i do that |
| 21:30.42 | fugitivo | Qwell: yes, it's easier to maintain with emerge, emerge will keep your system clean |
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| 21:35.52 | blitzrage | ~seen drumkilla |
| 21:36.01 | jbot | drumkilla <n=russell@asterisk/developer-and-stable-maintainer/drumkilla> was last seen on IRC in channel #asterisk, 3d 19h 22m 39s ago, saying: 'and the only cure is more cowbell?'. |
| 21:36.01 | shidan | anyone have problems with registering the second line of a sipura 2002? |
| 21:36.51 | Qwell | blitzrage: evening |
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| 21:46.12 | Chuji | 350 people idling in here these days? |
| 21:46.14 | Chuji | sheesh |
| 21:46.27 | Qwell | gone up in the last few months |
| 21:46.37 | Chuji | yeah, no kidding |
| 21:46.46 | Chuji | But the mailing list seems slower these days |
| 21:46.54 | Qwell | Chuji: because they all come here now. ;] |
| 21:47.03 | Chuji | Must mean that the software is getting more stable, or the wiki is getting better |
| 21:47.13 | Chuji | Qwell : Yeah, could be |
| 21:47.14 | Chuji | haha |
| 21:49.02 | DrukenHME | i think it's more that we don't want to sift threw the 10000000000 messages every day in our email.... |
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| 21:51.58 | fugitivo | DrukenHME: that's true :) |
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| 22:06.35 | sphing | are there any good howto's for setting up a simple sip server with asterisks |
| 22:06.50 | Qwell | sphing: on the wiki |
| 22:06.52 | Qwell | ~wikis |
| 22:06.53 | jbot | wikis is, like, http://www.voip-info.org |
| 22:07.49 | sphing | cool thanks |
| 22:09.39 | mog_home | hey guys thanks for help with car |
| 22:09.45 | mog_home | turns out terminals were loose |
| 22:09.50 | mog_home | and everything is okay now |
| 22:12.08 | Ariel_ | It's sunday.. Football season started today. Yeppeeee |
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| 22:21.17 | fone988 | <HIVlntine@EFNet> sup2u@freenode |
| 22:21.18 | fone988 | <HIVlntine@EFNet> roffle |
| 22:21.20 | fone988 | <HIVlntine@EFNet> etc |
| 22:22.01 | Assid | hrmm.. whats better to use postgres / mysql for cdr logging? |
| 22:23.07 | file[laptop] | O.o |
| 22:23.16 | Qwell | Assid: I use mysql, works good |
| 22:23.17 | Qwell | ymmv |
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| 22:23.50 | Qwell | Ariel_: geeks don't watch football |
| 22:24.43 | fone988 | <WhiteWolf@EFNet> i'm not sure if it works both ways |
| 22:24.57 | JessicaX^ | wow, i just realised |
| 22:25.00 | Ariel_ | Qwell, who said we are all qeeks and yes allot do watch football. |
| 22:25.01 | Assid | hrmm.. i guess i could use mysql.. i have used it a bit longer than phsql |
| 22:25.05 | JessicaX^ | Linuxchix.org are actually windows zealots |
| 22:25.06 | JessicaX^ | rofl |
| 22:25.18 | JessicaX^ | What a bunch of port smoking retards ._. |
| 22:25.20 | Qwell | Assid: whatever you're more familiar with |
| 22:25.47 | drray | the Texas-OSU game was a nailbiter |
| 22:26.01 | fone988 | <HIVlntine@EFNet> CD PUB |
| 22:26.04 | loud | you know Raven Alder ? |
| 22:26.23 | sphing | drray: i was at the florida game so i missed most of it |
| 22:26.34 | drray | well, I tivo'd it |
| 22:26.35 | drray | :) |
| 22:26.42 | drray | I'd rather have been at a game |
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| 22:29.15 | DrukenHME | Darwin35: you around? |
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| 22:29.41 | fugitivo | Assid: don't use mysql, it's evil! |
| 22:29.54 | syle2 | oww great a database war lol |
| 22:30.08 | syle2 | why not a OS war between linux and freebsd while your at it lol |
| 22:30.40 | fugitivo | there's no war, mysql already lost ;) |
| 22:30.41 | fone988 | <in@EFNet> FreeBSD > *++ |
| 22:31.10 | sphing | in the extensions.conf wiki example everything is Zap/# ... what other options are there other than Zap |
| 22:31.28 | fugitivo | sphing: SIP, IAX2 |
| 22:31.38 | sphing | ah |
| 22:32.26 | sphing | so i would have to have every line configured in its respective conf file right? |
| 22:32.49 | fugitivo | what do you mean? |
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| 22:33.01 | sphing | like if I wanted to incoming to go to SIP/1 |
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| 22:33.07 | sphing | 1 has to exist in sip.conf |
| 22:33.17 | fugitivo | exactly |
| 22:33.39 | sphing | and its all starting to make sense |
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| 22:36.12 | psyoptix | where can I read about how to transport SIP DTMF (rfc2833) to a Zap channel? |
| 22:36.35 | fugitivo | what do you mean with "transport" ? |
| 22:36.42 | psyoptix | forward properly |
| 22:37.10 | psyoptix | oh nevermind, it seems to be working now |
| 22:37.33 | psyoptix | leet |
| 22:37.41 | sphing | lol "exgirlfriend logic" |
| 22:37.43 | sphing | thats hilarious |
| 22:37.58 | mrfrenzy | elaborate sphing |
| 22:38.23 | *** part/#asterisk rob314[laptop] (n=rob314[l@cpe-65-185-169-238.neo.res.rr.com) |
| 22:39.08 | sphing | "Other options for defining extensions include an option commonly referred to as the ex-girlfriend logic. This logic will match the dialed extension, wether it came from outside or inside, based on the callerid of the person calling it. For exmaple:" |
| 22:39.19 | sphing | from the voip-info wiki |
| 22:39.38 | fugitivo | it's a basic function with a nice name |
| 22:39.54 | sphing | i just love the name its so funny |
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| 22:44.43 | eer | Hi |
| 22:45.20 | Moc | hail |
| 22:45.25 | eer | If I want to be able to make calls to external numbers in belgium, what service provider would you recommend? I want good, but as cheap as possible calls... |
| 22:46.00 | websae | anyone know why my friend connected just fine using his sipura 841 phone to connect to my asterisk box here (he was behind linksys router), now he went back to his dorm room at his college, and all the line indicators are just yellow, and he's not on the server...any ideas? |
| 22:46.17 | Moc | eer, you could look at www.voip-info.org people maintain providers listing |
| 22:46.25 | eer | thx moc |
| 22:46.31 | Qwell | websae: he was on the same NAT as the asterisk box before? |
| 22:46.56 | websae | no |
| 22:47.02 | websae | different one (in another state) |
| 22:47.11 | Moc | websae, first thing, check if at his dorm room, he have full open internet acces |
| 22:47.47 | Moc | he should atless beable to register... |
| 22:48.13 | websae | well his softphone worked |
| 22:48.14 | websae | the xlite |
| 22:48.21 | criptos | Kansas city kick ass!.... NYJ ass! |
| 22:48.26 | Moc | from his pc at the dorm room ? |
| 22:48.30 | websae | yeah |
| 22:48.36 | criptos | hi websae! |
| 22:48.39 | websae | he has to logon with clean access.... |
| 22:48.42 | websae | hey criptos! |
| 22:48.45 | websae | how is it going |
| 22:48.57 | Moc | websae, he use a router on his side ? |
| 22:49.31 | criptos | good, good... :) |
| 22:49.56 | websae | just plugs into rj45 jack |
| 22:50.23 | websae | into his dorm room |
| 22:50.31 | websae | im guessing that goes to a switch |
| 22:50.33 | sphing | websae: xlite uses stun |
| 22:50.45 | sphing | so it can login from just about anywhere behind just about anything |
| 22:50.54 | websae | hmm okay |
| 22:51.07 | websae | well his line indicators are yellow |
| 22:51.12 | websae | on his sipura 841 |
| 22:51.27 | sphing | i'm assuming is a hardware phone |
| 22:51.30 | websae | yeah |
| 22:51.32 | websae | yes |
| 22:51.44 | websae | it works behind the router has his friends house |
| 22:51.57 | sphing | are you receiving his data on your side... |
| 22:52.03 | SpaceBass | sae? |
| 22:52.06 | sphing | its possible that he can get out.. but you cant get in |
| 22:52.19 | fone988 | <synapze@EFNet> in: u should format that spy bot |
| 22:52.25 | fone988 | <synapze@EFNet> so u dont have to decode the message |
| 22:52.25 | fone988 | <synapze@EFNet> hehe |
| 22:52.55 | sphing | is he talking to someone of efnet on freenode? |
| 22:53.16 | websae | i don't see anything |
| 22:53.19 | websae | in the logs |
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| 22:53.45 | websae | he picks up a ip address for the dorms dhcp address |
| 22:53.45 | SpaceBass | websae: whats the sae part stand for? |
| 22:53.45 | sphing | hmm... |
| 22:54.08 | sphing | websae: is it a private ip? |
| 22:54.24 | websae | yes |
| 22:54.32 | websae | should i have some sort of nat setting changed |
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| 22:54.34 | websae | or something |
| 22:54.36 | websae | on his phone |
| 22:54.55 | SpaceBass | whats the phone? soft phone or hard? |
| 22:55.01 | websae | sipura 841 |
| 22:55.05 | websae | haard |
| 22:55.44 | SpaceBass | is the * server behind a firewall or nat router |
| 22:56.10 | sphing | websae: i'm rather new to asterisk but if hes behind a dorm filewall, from experience they are VERY tight with inbound traffic, you probably cant get back in |
| 22:56.28 | SpaceBass | actually, schools are usually wide open |
| 22:56.37 | sphing | not mine |
| 22:56.38 | websae | that's what i thought too |
| 22:56.42 | SpaceBass | i find they filter very little... or didnt used to |
| 22:56.53 | websae | because when he logs on to his windows xp machine he has to login to some sort of cisco clean access thing |
| 22:57.08 | SpaceBass | ahhhhh |
| 22:57.13 | websae | well it shows he is registered on the * box of mine |
| 22:57.47 | sphing | websae: wait wait... he has to login like a webbrowser? |
| 22:57.48 | SpaceBass | one idea might be setting up an old pc $40 off ebay with a router distro, setting up a VPN connection to you and then putting the sipura on that |
| 22:58.20 | SpaceBass | but if they require network authentication then it could be tricker |
| 22:58.48 | SpaceBass | which -fyi- is what sucks about WiFi SIP phones and hotspots... I have a tmobile account but cannot make calls from starbucks b/c the phone cannot log in |
| 22:59.04 | websae | no he logs on with this program they all have to have installed on their machines |
| 22:59.14 | sphing | websae: when he gets a computer on |
| 22:59.19 | sphing | he fires up a webbrowser |
| 22:59.21 | sphing | then what happens |
| 22:59.25 | websae | it works |
| 22:59.35 | sphing | no authentications? |
| 22:59.39 | websae | wehn he fires up a machine he gets a login prompt with this software he installed cisco clean access |
| 22:59.43 | websae | logs in witht that |
| 22:59.58 | sphing | well theres your problem... the phone can't login |
| 23:00.03 | websae | my asterisk server says he is logged in |
| 23:00.09 | websae | that he is registered |
| 23:00.20 | sphing | you're sure it says the hardphone logged in... or that the softphone logged in |
| 23:01.31 | websae | yeah |
| 23:01.36 | websae | just that his line indicators are yellow |
| 23:01.44 | websae | and not green |
| 23:01.47 | websae | and no dial tone |
| 23:02.05 | SpaceBass | sometimes those things restrict some traffic, not all |
| 23:02.45 | websae | how wouldi check if he is registered on my *box |
| 23:03.10 | sphing | i have no idea.. |
| 23:03.43 | sphing | what i would recommend... is having your friend start some server... (netcat) and you try to connect to it from your house |
| 23:04.25 | sphing | whats probably happening is that he can register because he is outbound but the traffic from the asterisk server cant come inbound... |
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| 23:05.12 | SpaceBass | websae: still currious about the name |
| 23:05.29 | Qwell | sip show subscriptions, to see who is registered, isn't it? |
| 23:05.50 | websae | hrm |
| 23:05.51 | websae | it shows |
| 23:05.59 | websae | it shows him logged in |
| 23:06.05 | websae | but line indicators are yellow |
| 23:06.07 | Qwell | my 7960 isn't showing up though, so, no clue |
| 23:06.09 | websae | instead of green |
| 23:06.27 | sphing | websae: as far as i know registration is one way.. |
| 23:06.37 | sphing | ie the phone can make all the outbound traffic it wants |
| 23:06.41 | h3x | snom 360 is supposed to do xml browsing soon |
| 23:06.49 | h3x | that is going to rule |
| 23:06.59 | sphing | but cant receive the data from the * |
| 23:07.15 | Qwell | in order to be registered, I believe it has to be able to get data back, and confirm it |
| 23:07.16 | Qwell | or something |
| 23:08.07 | sphing | Qwell: i think some setups do... not all |
| 23:08.30 | Qwell | websae: run a sip debug, see what happens |
| 23:08.43 | sphing | websae: tell your friend to get a hub and fire up ethereal or another NIC and setup a gateway then use ethereal |
| 23:09.11 | fone988 | *** snide@EFNet (~snide@cpe-069-132-153-111.carolina.res.rr.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 360 seconds) |
| 23:09.16 | websae | hrmm okay |
| 23:09.22 | websae | i'll have to wait for my friend to get back later |
| 23:09.43 | websae | I'll be back on later guys, really am appreciating your help with troubleshooting this pain the butt setup...thanks |
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| 23:10.24 | websae | anyone know where to purchase a new notebook from inexpensively yet with a lot of good features? |
| 23:10.50 | Assid | is HEAD newer than what beta has to offer? |
| 23:10.58 | Qwell | websae: they have notebooks at riteaid. $0.88. Its spiral bound, 100 pages COLLEGE RULED. Very nice notebooks. |
| 23:11.14 | SpaceBass | websae: ebay |
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| 23:11.42 | websae | riteaid? |
| 23:11.44 | websae | they hae a website? |
| 23:11.58 | Qwell | websae: You didn't catch that what I said was a joke...nevermind |
| 23:12.13 | websae | ohh |
| 23:12.13 | websae | lol |
| 23:12.14 | websae | ha |
| 23:12.16 | websae | ha |
| 23:12.28 | websae | geeze |
| 23:12.33 | websae | was reading too much into it |
| 23:15.02 | blitzrage | Qwell: evening! :) |
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| 23:15.11 | Qwell | blitzrage: sure, its evening now, heh |
| 23:15.34 | blitzrage | Qwell: hehehe |
| 23:15.41 | blitzrage | Qwell: 7:15pm here |
| 23:15.42 | Qwell | how ya been? |
| 23:15.55 | blitzrage | Qwell: oh not too shabby - in a conference call right now - supposed to have another one in 45 mins |
| 23:16.01 | blitzrage | Qwell: yourself? |
| 23:16.12 | Qwell | decent...work sucks, making me move |
| 23:16.23 | *** part/#asterisk JessicaX^ (n=Admin@86.112.147.81) |
| 23:16.23 | blitzrage | Qwell: ugh - thats why I work for myself :) |
| 23:16.29 | Qwell | trying to figure out a way to break my lease without actually breaking it... |
| 23:16.33 | X-Rob | ~elvis |
| 23:16.36 | jbot | i guess elvis is dead |
| 23:16.47 | blitzrage | jbot: you're a liar! |
| 23:16.54 | blitzrage | Elvis Lives!!! |
| 23:17.04 | X-Rob | I'm going to Bundaberg. |
| 23:17.10 | X-Rob | They make Rum and Sugar there. |
| 23:17.16 | Ariel_ | what you don't go to Vegas and have not seen all the Elvis's there? |
| 23:17.22 | X-Rob | they also have a hospital that habitually kills their patients |
| 23:17.27 | X-Rob | (google bundaberg hospital) |
| 23:17.58 | Qwell | habitually, or ritually? |
| 23:18.30 | X-Rob | habitually |
| 23:18.37 | X-Rob | they'd hired a doctor who wasn't actually a doctor. |
| 23:19.01 | Ariel_ | X-Rob, I might have to go to your part of the world next year. If all goes well around March. |
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| 23:20.57 | h3x | vegas sucks now |
| 23:20.59 | Jr_FLORIPA | Alguem fala Portugues? |
| 23:21.03 | h3x | all these asshoeles keep moving here |
| 23:21.12 | Qwell | jbot: translate br en Alguem fala Portugues? |
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| 23:23.22 | Jr_FLORIPA | I am With a problem in My HT488 could help me? |
| 23:23.22 | X-Rob | Ariel_ - Well, I'm up the hot end of the country, not down in the antarcic |
| 23:23.28 | X-Rob | antarctic |
| 23:23.51 | Ariel_ | yes I know. But it's closer to you then where I am at now on the other side of the world |
| 23:23.59 | X-Rob | good and valid point. |
| 23:24.38 | Ariel_ | We are going to see if we can also stop in the Philippines to see the rest of my wifes family. |
| 23:25.12 | X-Rob | but melbourne is about 2100km away from me. |
| 23:25.22 | X-Rob | http://www.whereis.com/whereis/mapping/geocodeAddressesForDirections.do?brandid=1&fromStreetNumber=&fromStreetName=&fromPoiType=&fromSuburb=gladstone&fromState=Queensland&fromLocation=-23.866453%7C151.247705%7C%7C%7CCity+Center%7C%7CGladstone%7CQueensland&toStreetNumber=&toStreetName=&toPoiType=&toSuburb=melbourne&toState=Victoria&toLocation=-37.812788%7C144.96437%7C%7C%7CCity+Center%7C%7CMelbourne%7CVictoria&modeOfTransport=1&x=75&y=16 |
| 23:25.26 | X-Rob | What an evil URL |
| 23:25.33 | Ariel_ | wow |
| 23:25.39 | X-Rob | Sorry, didnt' realise it was so long when I copied it. |
| 23:26.10 | fugitivo | damn |
| 23:26.18 | fugitivo | someone doesn't know how to use POST |
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| 23:26.31 | X-Rob | They used to POST, but then you couldn't link to directions |
| 23:26.58 | fugitivo | true |
| 23:27.03 | X-Rob | There's probably a fair bit there that could be trimmed and it would still work. |
| 23:27.34 | Ariel_ | X-Rob, we here keep forgetting that your island is really large |
| 23:29.12 | X-Rob | Well. Think of it this way. The bottom of the country is in the antarctic, the top is in the tropics |
| 23:29.39 | DrukenHME | anyone know if sox can take an mp3 and make it a gsm ? |
| 23:29.52 | Qwell | DrukenHME: should be able to |
| 23:30.05 | Ariel_ | X-Rob, it's like us here in the US Where I live is in the Tropic's and up north is well really cold...... |
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| 23:30.26 | myke | for some definitions of "really cold" |
| 23:30.30 | Ariel_ | DrukenHME, yes |
| 23:30.59 | DrukenHME | Ariel_: got a CMD line that i can be lazy with? |
| 23:31.28 | Qwell | sox myfile.mp3 -r 8000 -c 1 myfile.gsm |
| 23:31.29 | Qwell | supposedly |
| 23:31.33 | Qwell | per google |
| 23:32.54 | myke | yhou'll probably need to mess with sox |
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| 23:33.05 | myke | looks like you need to patch sox and get a gsm library first |
| 23:33.25 | Ariel_ | you may need to resample the file as well |
| 23:33.27 | X-Rob | Ariel_ - Portland is not _cold_ |
| 23:33.52 | Ariel_ | Portland is 3000 miles or more away from me. |
| 23:34.13 | Ariel_ | and to me it's really cold |
| 23:35.58 | myke | portland is cold?? |
| 23:36.30 | Ariel_ | myke, sorry I hear it gets cold there |
| 23:36.39 | myke | i think it's balmy |
| 23:36.45 | myke | minneapolis, now that's cold |
| 23:37.05 | Ariel_ | for me anything uder 70 degrees is cold. |
| 23:37.09 | myke | cold starts at -10 |
| 23:37.18 | myke | 30 is normal |
| 23:37.24 | Qwell | 65f is cold |
| 23:37.25 | myke | 70 is mid-summer |
| 23:38.02 | myke | 65 is start thinking about maybe putting on a wetsuit when you go wakeboarding |
| 23:38.11 | Ariel_ | In winter it's cold here below 70 due to most places don't have any heaters |
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| 23:38.45 | Ariel_ | argh we stop going the beach due to it being too cold at 75 |
| 23:38.55 | Ariel_ | that is when the snow birds come down. |
| 23:39.11 | blitzrage | too cold at 75? lol |
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| 23:39.18 | myke | 75 is about the best you can hope for at the beach here |
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| 23:41.02 | Ariel_ | myke, problem here is that the water is normally between 76 to 85 degress year round. And in winter the water is warmer then the air so we native don't go swiming |
| 23:41.05 | pc4 | Is there a number > CID name databse out there/ |
| 23:41.06 | pc4 | ? |
| 23:41.17 | Himeko | nice |
| 23:41.18 | DrukenHME | 75 is cold? WTF? |
| 23:41.21 | Himeko | i'd jump in |
| 23:41.21 | Ariel_ | e164... enum |
| 23:42.01 | Ariel_ | DrukenHME, I live in a year round warm place. So if it's below 75 we think it's cold |
| 23:42.02 | Himeko | we have polar bear clubs here |
| 23:42.11 | Himeko | they cut holes in the ice and jump in |
| 23:42.16 | Ariel_ | nuts |
| 23:42.17 | myke | that's what's up |
| 23:42.35 | DrukenHME | Ariel_: yeah... we go between +35C and - 35C |
| 23:42.48 | Ariel_ | DrukenHME, argh |
| 23:43.12 | Ariel_ | that is exterms on both sides |
| 23:43.21 | X-Rob | -35C? |
| 23:43.26 | Ariel_ | ~weather KTMB |
| 23:43.37 | pc4 | Where can I get some good royalty free on hold music? |
| 23:43.40 | pc4 | ~weather ksun |
| 23:43.44 | DrukenHME | Ariel_: well yeah, we are NORMALLY mid 20's on both ends of the scale |
| 23:43.46 | X-Rob | pc4 - aussievoip.com.au |
| 23:43.59 | X-Rob | there's a link on the front page to 400mb or so |
| 23:44.01 | myke | ~weather fca |
| 23:44.05 | X-Rob | ~weather syd |
| 23:44.13 | myke | ~weather gpia |
| 23:44.18 | X-Rob | fuck you jbot |
| 23:44.31 | Himeko | ya we usually get -40 hear at least once a year for a few days |
| 23:44.55 | X-Rob | DrukenHME - Where the smeg are you? |
| 23:45.01 | *** part/#asterisk litage (n=nick@203.201.96.239) |
| 23:45.07 | DrukenHME | Ontario canada my friend... |
| 23:45.14 | *** join/#asterisk SpaceBass (n=SpaceBas@c-24-125-184-203.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 23:45.25 | X-Rob | That's where the SO wants to go. |
| 23:45.33 | DrukenHME | hot and humid in the summer, cold and snowy in the winter |
| 23:45.34 | X-Rob | s/go/live |
| 23:45.48 | pc4 | X-Rob Not quite my taste :( |
| 23:45.49 | X-Rob | bugger that. |
| 23:45.56 | DrukenHME | the SO ? |
| 23:46.00 | X-Rob | Significant Other |
| 23:46.06 | DrukenHME | ahh, hehe |
| 23:46.09 | DrukenHME | it's nice here |
| 23:46.15 | DrukenHME | beautfil land |
| 23:46.16 | X-Rob | nah. It's nice _here_ 8) |
| 23:46.25 | Ariel_ | X-Rob, from the tropic's to the cold hummm not very good in the long run. |
| 23:47.52 | DrukenHME | hehe you guys are just babied... you get used to it... it's just weathering |
| 23:48.13 | DrukenHME | your used to the hot... so it's normal for you... i'm used to the temp shifts... it's normal for me |
| 23:48.59 | pc4 | Anyone want a coupon for a free 1st month of service and free activiation for broadvoice? Must have your own ata/softphone. |
| 23:49.01 | newl | one never gets fully used to the temperature shifts in one climate after living in another for so long, trust me. :) |
| 23:49.14 | Ariel_ | DrukenHME, it would still mess with me. Your only able to go flying in General Aviation Airplanes 1/2 the year. |
| 23:49.44 | DrukenHME | what is a general aviation airplane? |
| 23:49.46 | pc4 | Ariel_ - You can fly airplaines in the cold. But alaska presents some other challenges :) |
| 23:49.52 | pc4 | Druken - Anything but military/airlines |
| 23:49.54 | Ariel_ | pc4, hehe I have one as well. Can't use it. |
| 23:49.54 | Himeko | alberta weather is much better than ontario |
| 23:50.09 | Himeko | not very humid |
| 23:50.13 | newl | no it isn't, you can't legally go topless in Alberta. haha |
| 23:50.22 | DrukenHME | Himeko: not really... it's cold and wet in alberta... |
| 23:50.23 | Ariel_ | DrukenHME, I like flying small airplanes |
| 23:50.27 | pc4 | Druken - http://www.gaservingamerica.com/ |
| 23:50.51 | DrukenHME | Ariel_: we have a shitload of small aircraft airports around here |
| 23:50.52 | Himeko | i don't think so |
| 23:51.05 | DrukenHME | toronto island, buttonvilla air port, barrie has one... |
| 23:51.13 | Himeko | been living here for 97% of my life |
| 23:51.18 | Ariel_ | DrukenHME, yes I have a few freinds up there that are pilots. |
| 23:51.27 | Himeko | the other 3% was in a very humid place |
| 23:51.28 | pc4 | It's expensive :( |
| 23:51.35 | pc4 | And Australia doesn't help |
| 23:51.36 | pc4 | hehe |
| 23:54.47 | DrukenHME | yeah i guess not... |
| 23:55.00 | fone988 | <sivana@EFNet> hey |
| 23:55.33 | X-Rob | pc4 - what did I miss? |
| 23:55.59 | pc4 | X-Rob - Did you miss anything? |
| 23:56.08 | fone988 | *** ariel@EFNet (~ariel@cypher.punk.net) has joined #asterisk |
| 23:56.08 | X-Rob | you mentioned australia. I'm the token aussie. |
| 23:56.13 | fone988 | <ariel@EFNet> uh great |
| 23:56.16 | X-Rob | I'm wondering what I missed |
| 23:56.17 | fone988 | <ariel@EFNet> no more freenode for me. |
| 23:56.19 | pc4 | X-Rob - Cost of general aviation |
| 23:56.24 | X-Rob | Aah.. |
| 23:56.28 | pc4 | nothing really... just made a comment. |
| 23:56.29 | pc4 | :) |
| 23:56.39 | newl | X-Rob: watch the race yesterday? |
| 23:56.40 | DrukenHME | are we really doing this annoying link thing? |
| 23:56.44 | fone988 | <ariel@EFNet> fone i love you |
| 23:57.03 | X-Rob | DrukenHME - /ignore fonewhateveritwas |
| 23:57.09 | pc4 | Anyone want a coupon (free) for a free month of service for broadvoice? |
| 23:57.24 | X-Rob | fone988 |
| 23:57.25 | DrukenHME | X-Rob: i've seen 3 diffrent nicks for it just today.... |
| 23:58.10 | X-Rob | if people wanted to be on freenode, they would be. |
| 23:59.08 | DrukenHME | makes sence to me.... |
